| 00:00.06 | karsten | themill: Something that can be scripted? Can you split the file(s) (man split). |
| 00:00.34 | solemnwarning | I'm trying to build the cpp(gcc-defaults) package and I get this error: dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot open upload file ../gnat_4.1.1-15_i686.deb for reading: No such file or directory |
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| 00:00.47 | solemnwarning | Anyone know what I should do to fix this? |
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| 00:01.29 | themill | source files for topographical maps for all of switzerland. I'll work on smaller tiles next time and assemble them at the end. The tiles are binary scary looking things until their second last stage when they become text files.... |
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| 00:03.06 | aindilis | any good rss solutions in debian? |
| 00:03.18 | Innatech | solemwarning: this thread might help. Particularly the last message. http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-mentors@lists.debian.org/msg01542.html |
| 00:03.26 | aindilis | nevermind, I'll use popcon |
| 00:03.27 | DawnLight | !rss |
| 00:03.40 | aindilis | seems to be looked down upon |
| 00:03.48 | themill | aindilis: for reading or creating or sending? |
| 00:03.51 | aindilis | reading |
| 00:04.04 | DawnLight | hell, i don't even know what rss is |
| 00:04.05 | abrotman | apt-cache search rss reader ? |
| 00:04.06 | krazykit | liferea is pretty good if you like gtk+ apps |
| 00:04.15 | themill | aindilis: I use akregator (part of kontact in kde) |
| 00:04.15 | abrotman | DawnLight: news feeds roughly |
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| 00:04.33 | eth01 | for apache2 can i use Listen 192.168.1.5:80 in ports.conf? |
| 00:04.38 | solemnwarning | Innatech: I've not modified the package, I'm using pbuilder btw |
| 00:04.59 | eth01 | I don't like the way you can't edit the hostname, server name etc or its not viewable |
| 00:05.01 | aindilis | okay, I'll check popcon results and see what the most popular rss readers are, thanks |
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| 00:05.25 | lightning | icewm is weird, but kinda cool |
| 00:05.34 | lightning | anyone here running it? |
| 00:05.46 | krazykit | !anyone use icewm |
| 00:05.46 | dpkg | No, no one uses icewm, not even the people who use it. |
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| 00:05.54 | lightning | lol |
| 00:06.26 | romano2k | i just read the man for find |
| 00:06.36 | romano2k | but couldn't find how to search for text in files |
| 00:06.49 | Innatech | solemnwarning: what switches are you giving pbuilder? |
| 00:07.07 | krazykit | find doesn't do that, romano2k, afaik |
| 00:07.18 | solemnwarning | Only --buildresult |
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| 00:07.22 | romano2k | okay krazykit :) |
| 00:07.30 | solemnwarning | I've done a ton of other packages with the same command |
| 00:07.45 | solemnwarning | I'm using pdebuild, not pbuilder directly |
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| 00:09.18 | themill | karsten: eventually the map will end up on http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com/ and will be available for anyone to use either with mapping software or on a compatible gps. |
| 00:09.18 | Innatech | solemwarning: ah, OK. I'll leave it to wiser heads, then. ;P |
| 00:09.18 | eth01 | where can i edit apache conf? |
| 00:09.18 | themill | romano2k: grep to search within files. find to find files. |
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| 00:11.05 | DawnLight | how do i see a file's permissions? |
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| 00:12.31 | Innatech | You mean ls -l ? Or something more specific? |
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| 00:12.56 | DawnLight | this works, thanks |
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| 00:13.02 | Innatech | sure. |
| 00:13.47 | _zwox | hi |
| 00:13.53 | solemnwarning | I'm trying to build cpp(gcc-defaults) using pdebuild, for some reason the build fails with the following error: |
| 00:13.56 | solemnwarning | dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot open upload file ../gnat_4.1.1-15_i686.deb for reading: No such file or directory |
| 00:13.59 | solemnwarning | Can anyone help me? |
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| 00:14.14 | solemnwarning | I've not configured any dpkg tools to upload |
| 00:14.21 | _zwox | how to enable insults support on ssh authentication ? |
| 00:14.49 | _zwox | i've erad about it a long time ago in a galaxy far far away ... |
| 00:14.59 | _zwox | but i don't remember how to do -_- |
| 00:15.05 | DawnLight | whats insults? |
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| 00:15.27 | sanmarcos | is USB2 faster than Ethernet/100 for trasnfering files? |
| 00:15.45 | _zwox | insults is something that substitute normale replies when you enter a bad ssh password |
| 00:15.53 | Innatech | sanmarcos: yes. |
| 00:16.04 | sanmarcos | Innatech, much faster? |
| 00:16.07 | _zwox | like " brute force is forbiden " |
| 00:16.28 | _zwox | or other sentences like that |
| 00:16.43 | _zwox | instead of wrong password .... bla bla bla |
| 00:16.50 | DawnLight | _zwox: i bet there's a built in way |
| 00:16.59 | Innatech | sanmarcos: ~480 vs 100. |
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| 00:17.24 | Innatech | sanmarcos: but, of course, ethernet is usually easier. |
| 00:17.29 | _zwox | if i'm right it's implemented in sshd but it should be enable in the conf file, but i'm not sure |
| 00:18.02 | DawnLight | man sshd_config |
| 00:18.05 | sanmarcos | Innatech, how long would copying ~150gb take over ethernet? |
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| 00:19.07 | DawnLight | sanmarcos: if time is valuable to you, then you are wasting it. start transferring :-0 |
| 00:19.18 | _zwox | DawnLight: thx, i'd better read the man... at this time, i'm a bit stupid |
| 00:19.24 | _zwox | i should sleep XD |
| 00:19.25 | sanmarcos | DawnLight, how long? |
| 00:19.29 | krazykit | sanmarcos, a LONG time. usb2 would be quite a bit faster |
| 00:19.53 | Innatech | sanmarcos: I can't imagine I'm doing this math right, but its a while. Use USB if you can. |
| 00:20.13 | sanmarcos | right, I would buy a Firewire 800 external enclosure for my IDE drive |
| 00:20.21 | sanmarcos | but approximately, how much would it take? |
| 00:20.29 | krazykit | sanmarcos, let's assume you get the full 100mbit speed the whole time. that's 12.5mb/s |
| 00:20.42 | sanmarcos | thats being optimistic, but ok |
| 00:20.56 | abrotman | krazykit: big B |
| 00:21.00 | Innatech | And 150GB in megabits is 1 228 800 megabits |
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| 00:21.06 | _zwox | well good night all, ant thank you |
| 00:21.14 | krazykit | ah, math isn't my strong point. |
| 00:21.47 | Supaplex | dpkg: 5*1024^4 |
| 00:21.47 | dpkg | 5124 |
| 00:21.53 | Supaplex | dpkg: 5*(1024^4) |
| 00:21.53 | dpkg | 5140 |
| 00:21.56 | sanmarcos | so 1 228 800 megabits divided by 100 mbit ? |
| 00:22.02 | cafuego | Supaplex: ^ == ** |
| 00:22.06 | Supaplex | yeh |
| 00:22.11 | Supaplex | dpkg: 5*(1024**4) |
| 00:22.11 | dpkg | 5497558138880 |
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| 00:23.41 | abrotman | wb Seb ! |
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| 00:24.07 | Innatech | sanmarcos: I'm getting around 3.4 hours |
| 00:24.24 | sanmarcos | Innatech, not bad... |
| 00:24.30 | krazykit | but that's assuming you get the full 100mbit the whole time. that doesn't happen. |
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| 00:25.01 | Innatech | yeah. Set up USB if you are willing to deal with it. |
| 00:25.30 | sanmarcos | I can do Firewire, so I will. |
| 00:25.34 | Innatech | that works too. |
| 00:25.56 | lightning | any programs comparable to nicotine? |
| 00:26.00 | solemnwarning | I'm trying to build cpp(gcc-defaults) using pdebuild, for some reason the build fails with the following error: |
| 00:26.04 | solemnwarning | dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot open upload file ../gnat_4.1.1-15_i686.deb for reading: No such file or directory |
| 00:26.07 | solemnwarning | Can anyone help me? |
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| 00:31.15 | level1 | Hi, my wireless doesn't work when I come out of suspend (aka suspend to ram). Knetworkmanager doesn't seem to be aware that I have a wireless card. I can resolve this by killalling NetworkManager, and the restarting it. |
| 00:31.45 | level1 | I'm using ipw3945... I had to manually install this driver, could that be the issue? It works fine when i boot, but it breaks when I suspend |
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| 00:32.43 | Cueball|Laptop | My aptitude don't format properly when using screen. All the text is like square's. What can I change to make it work under screen? |
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| 00:33.48 | level1 | are there any graphical apt frontends for debian? all I really want it the systray icon saying "time to update" like ubuntu did, I use the command line to install stuff |
| 00:33.53 | Innatech | level1: just off the top of my head, you might want to make sure that the particular implementation of the chipset in your system (as in the vendor) works well on other platforms before you beat your head against it. I've seen problems with wireless and suspend on many different platforms & many different chipsets. Including commercial OSes. |
| 00:34.37 | abrotman | level1: there is one |
| 00:34.47 | level1 | Innatech: well, its not a big deal, I can fix it, it's about the most significant annoyance in debian (compared to ubuntu, which well...) |
| 00:34.51 | abrotman | !info update-manager etch |
| 00:34.57 | dpkg | update-manager: (GNOME application that manages software updates), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.42.2ubuntu22-11 (etch), Packaged size: 553 kB, Installed size: 2388 kB |
| 00:35.00 | level1 | Innatech: anyway, it worked in windows and ubuntu |
| 00:35.13 | Innatech | level1: Well, then at least you know you're not chasing a phantom! |
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| 00:52.28 | Doug52392 | hi |
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| 00:53.57 | DawnLight | hi |
| 00:54.14 | Doug52392 | hi, i bought a new computer recently, and am looking for a linux distro to install (my old compuer has ubuntu linux on it). is debian a good os for home, as well as a little more advanced and complex than ubuntu? |
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| 00:55.02 | DawnLight | how do i mount devices so that users have read access? |
| 00:55.08 | mrsno | Doug52392 no doubt you will get biased information here :-) try both and decide for _you_ |
| 00:55.20 | mrsno | but work great on the desktop, some people prefer one or the other for various reasons |
| 00:55.32 | mrsno | but=both |
| 00:55.47 | spinx | hey guys. i'm trying to configure my sound with alsa, but its not detecting anything. dmesg says isapnp: Card 'ESS ES1869 Plug And Play AudioDrive' |
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| 00:56.32 | DawnLight | Doug52392: Debian is excellent |
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| 00:57.22 | DawnLight | it is the biggest community software project in the world, i guess |
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| 00:57.48 | Innatech | Doug52392: Both are good OSes. Debian is more comprehensive. How advanced Ubuntu gets has to do with how you install it. If you're concerned that Ubuntu might not do something you want, Debian almost certainly will. |
| 00:58.07 | damog | what's `$$' in bash? |
| 00:59.06 | valdyn | damog: parent bash's pid |
| 00:59.07 | cafuego | damog: pid |
| 00:59.20 | Doug52392 | i currently have windows vista installed, and repartitioned the system to have 19.5gb unpartitioned space. if i decide to install it, how should i partition it? |
| 00:59.20 | damog | thanks. |
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| 00:59.46 | cafuego | Doug52392: 18.5Gb / and 1Gb swap |
| 01:00.00 | diafic_ | laptop fan control on an acer aspire... is it possible? |
| 01:00.22 | Innatech | Doug52392: some also like to keep /home on its own partition. |
| 01:00.22 | abrotman | damog: man bash .. /Special Parameters |
| 01:00.22 | valdyn | !laptops |
| 01:00.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, laptop is All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, see http://www.thinkwiki.org/ |
| 01:01.12 | diafic_ | ta |
| 01:01.31 | d00gster | can someone tell me why startx isn't starting. I have the following: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02), trying to do tv out via rca. I see signal but it is messup and skewed. here are several outputs from X http://www.pastebin.ca/632395 http://www.pastebin.ca/629338 http://www.pastebin.ca/629340 |
| 01:01.36 | diafic_ | oh ffs |
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| 01:01.41 | diafic_ | the only guide on that site... |
| 01:01.44 | diafic_ | and its in czeck |
| 01:01.48 | DawnLight | how do i mount devices so that users have read access? does it have to do with the mount directory permissions? i think not, since those change once mounted. so i'm looking in the man mount but don't see anthing. i also can't change permissions after its mounted because i mount read only. |
| 01:01.57 | abrotman | diafic_: babelfish maybe ? |
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| 01:02.46 | petemc | DawnLight: depends on the fs |
| 01:02.59 | DawnLight | petemc: ntfs |
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| 01:03.15 | petemc | set at mount time |
| 01:03.24 | Doug52392 | how many dvd images do i need to download? |
| 01:03.26 | DawnLight | how? |
| 01:03.26 | chowmeined | so i fixed ipsec-tools on sparc, where should I send my patch? |
| 01:03.36 | abrotman | !d-i Doug52392 |
| 01:03.36 | dpkg | Doug52392, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the 4.0r0 installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:03.44 | abrotman | chowmeined: to the BTS |
| 01:03.54 | petemc | DawnLight: adding options to the mount command |
| 01:03.54 | DawnLight | Doug52392: netinst |
| 01:04.23 | petemc | DawnLight: /msg dpkg ntfs |
| 01:04.28 | petemc | or something |
| 01:04.30 | Doug52392 | dont i need to be plugged into my router to use the netinstaller? |
| 01:04.43 | abrotman | is that a problem ? |
| 01:04.48 | DawnLight | petemc: i am looking at the man mount but i don't see which option would give users any permissions to read |
| 01:05.05 | petemc | DawnLight: umask=022 |
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| 01:05.42 | Doug52392 | my computers in my bedroom, and the router is at the other end of my house |
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| 01:06.11 | petemc | Doug52392: the install doesnt support wireless |
| 01:06.18 | petemc | to my knowledge.. |
| 01:06.30 | petemc | it may be possible to shoehorn it in |
| 01:06.35 | abrotman | i think it does if it's a truly free driver like orinoco |
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| 01:06.56 | Doug52392 | i guess i'll have to bring everyting downstairs |
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| 01:07.15 | DawnLight | thanks! |
| 01:07.25 | Doug52392 | what's the size of what the netinstaller downloads? |
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| 01:07.45 | petemc | 110meg, tho i could be wrong |
| 01:08.04 | stoned | oh man |
| 01:08.12 | stoned | my head hurts real bad |
| 01:08.14 | petemc | the page where you download it from should list the size |
| 01:09.00 | DawnLight | stoned: open a port for healing |
| 01:09.06 | stoned | lol |
| 01:09.18 | Doug52392 | and how much space does the default linux install take? |
| 01:09.21 | abrotman | 140ish MB |
| 01:09.26 | abrotman | oh .. that's the size of the netinst |
| 01:09.35 | stoned | couple hundred megs |
| 01:09.38 | stoned | half a gig maybe |
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| 01:09.53 | stoned | upto 2gigs |
| 01:10.00 | stoned | DawnLight: thanks |
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| 01:10.13 | Doug52392 | ok |
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| 01:10.56 | Doug52392 | i used the download link, but im only getting a 30kbps connection |
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| 01:11.47 | S2AnGeL | hey I have a server that starts up and it seems to always be running more then once.. and only way to fix it is to kill the second server that started up.. where are places I can look so I can stop this from happening.. seems to happen every day |
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| 01:12.41 | S2AnGeL | "/etc/init.d and I removed the scripts in there but yet it still keeps loading up.. |
| 01:13.10 | S2AnGeL | like every day at some certain time I have not narrowed down yet |
| 01:13.15 | Doug52392 | will my Linksys WMP54G PCI wireless card work ok? the last distro i tried did not take my wireless card |
| 01:13.33 | krazykit | Doug52392, depends on the chipset. figure out what it is, see if it's supported. |
| 01:13.35 | S2AnGeL | WMP54G PCI whats the chipset |
| 01:13.43 | S2AnGeL | if you can figure that out I can tell yah |
| 01:13.48 | Doug52392 | RT61 |
| 01:13.55 | chowmeined | hopefully its not a broadcom |
| 01:13.56 | S2AnGeL | yah it will work |
| 01:14.06 | Doug52392 | its RaLink |
| 01:14.12 | S2AnGeL | I dunno for fancy stuff the driver is still far away for development |
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| 01:14.29 | S2AnGeL | though you can iwlist dev scan with it |
| 01:14.43 | S2AnGeL | kismet I don't think works well with it |
| 01:14.48 | Doug52392 | when i download the netinstaller and boot from it, about how long should the download and installation take? |
| 01:15.05 | S2AnGeL | you building a server or a desktop? |
| 01:15.15 | uptownben | Hi All. I had a problem during an apt-upgrade (power outage) and now when I try to perform an apt-upgrade I see a bunch of "dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package ... missing" errors and my apt-upgrade fails. How can I fix this? |
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| 01:15.47 | Doug52392 | probaly desktop |
| 01:16.34 | S2AnGeL | uptownben: sometimes the lock file needs to be deleted othere wise things will not work.. i might be tottaly wrong.. just something I knotice after a power failure inbetween something like that |
| 01:17.20 | S2AnGeL | Doug52392:ok, well expect a good long haul of a hour or so to download and install all the stuff.. though I perfer the net install |
| 01:17.29 | oc3d | I will be taking a linux eval. exam online in a couple minutes, anyone mind helping me in when I get to the tough questions? |
| 01:17.37 | S2AnGeL | Doug52392: this a first time for you or you savvy? |
| 01:17.51 | uptownben | isn't there a dpkg command that I can use to clear everything out and remove any unwanted/roken package files so i can start over? |
| 01:18.11 | cafuego | dpkg, debfoster, deborphan. |
| 01:18.12 | abrotman | purge |
| 01:18.45 | Doug52392 | ive been using linux for a while now, i installed ubuntu linux on my old computer |
| 01:18.48 | S2AnGeL | uptownben: depends on the error of course.. I think the lock file is in the /var/ area some place where it stores the files it downloads.. I dunno. |
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| 01:20.03 | S2AnGeL | Doug52392: I am not a fan of ubuntu.. they are sorta changing it.. to the point is sorta bothers me.. though its good to know they are debian based and are moving forward.. I feel more comfortable knowing what the heck is going on.. |
| 01:20.38 | S2AnGeL | Doug52392: have you tried the cd distros.. good way to get you started.. |
| 01:21.07 | Doug52392 | of debian or livecd distros? |
| 01:22.05 | S2AnGeL | Doug52392:knoppix.net is a ovious one.. though alot of weird packages fake here and there sorta mess you up in apt-get upgrade ing things.. and trying to form it.. i found that kanotix.com seem to have better driver support and was based more on sid.. they eventualy forked to one I like alot shows alot of promise called sidux |
| 01:23.54 | S2AnGeL | best part is out of the boot you have all your stuff running and basicaly configured.. .. I like to make a seperate home dir partion so that when I boot diffrent live cd distros to try them.. I use the same settings for my email Im and such |
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| 01:24.35 | Doug52392 | i downloaded several livecds when i started getting into linux. the first one was damn small linux, because it was soo small, about a year and a half ago (this was back when i had dial-up). i bought a usb flash drive and started downloading larger ones off my high school's computer network. |
| 01:25.15 | Doug52392 | then i finally got high speed internet and downloaded ubuntu and installed it |
| 01:25.39 | S2AnGeL | I think the problem is not getting your what ever version of linux to do something.. or to look a certain way.. its ahead in the future when you want to update the software that it will not be a nitemare because of the dependancies problems.. |
| 01:25.46 | stoned | so why are you here |
| 01:25.49 | stoned | this is #debian |
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| 01:25.59 | stoned | maybe you should go to #ubuntu |
| 01:26.12 | S2AnGeL | note I have had a few snags.. but been running for 5 years now upgrading what I can when I can when nessary |
| 01:26.31 | Doug52392 | i had ubuntu on my old computer, i want somthing new now |
| 01:26.44 | stoned | !d-i Doug52392 |
| 01:26.44 | dpkg | Doug52392, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the 4.0r0 installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:27.51 | Doug52392 | im downloading the netinstaller now |
| 01:27.53 | S2AnGeL | Doug52392: the net installers are a good start.. but if you want to jump into linux debian is the way to go |
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| 01:28.40 | Doug52392 | if i want to install debian, which cd or dvd should i dowload? |
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| 01:29.45 | S2AnGeL | the latest version of the netinstaller.. grab the absolute latest you can find |
| 01:30.03 | Doug52392 | its done |
| 01:30.17 | abrotman | hi |
| 01:30.25 | oc3d | I just installed etch amd64... flash non-free is an empty package, and libflash-swf and mozplugin dont seem to work on youtube, the tar.gz from adobe says this arch is not supported? any tips? |
| 01:30.35 | S2AnGeL | then make sure you have good net access and start installing.. make sure you grab kernal source too cause for your driver you may need to compile a driver |
| 01:31.19 | Doug52392 | i'll probaly install it tomorrow, doesn't look like i'll have enough time tonight |
| 01:31.59 | Doug52392 | how does debian compare to the other major linux distros? |
| 01:32.29 | krazykit | Doug52392, i'd google something like that. |
| 01:32.47 | DawnLight | it is the majorest linux distro |
| 01:33.07 | DawnLight | a zillion packages |
| 01:33.20 | DawnLight | a gazillion users |
| 01:33.37 | DawnLight | !start a distro war |
| 01:33.37 | dpkg | Debian Rulz |
| 01:34.18 | DawnLight | documentation is abundant... |
| 01:34.21 | stoned | oc3d: nspluginwrapper |
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| 01:34.28 | stoned | !nspluginwrapper oc3d |
| 01:34.31 | stoned | er. |
| 01:34.33 | stoned | !nspluginwrapper |
| 01:34.34 | dpkg | methinks nspluginwrapper is a wrapper allowing you to use 32-bit browser plugins in a native x86_64 browser. It is known to work with Flash and a few others. It is officially in *unstable*, while unofficial *stable/Etch* packages are available at http://www.dipconsultants.com/debian/ |
| 01:34.47 | oc3d | right on |
| 01:35.04 | DawnLight | hey i want that wrapper |
| 01:36.08 | Doug52392 | wow linux couter says 20% of their regesterd users run debian |
| 01:37.28 | abrotman | !tell B|nTaRa[A] about away |
| 01:37.57 | oc3d | Doug52392: you wont regret if you start off with debian, cause chances are you will never leave it (maybe youll risk some promiscuity with ubuntu) but still... coolest distro |
| 01:38.16 | Doug52392 | which bootloader does debian use? |
| 01:38.27 | oc3d | grub nowadays |
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| 01:39.52 | oc3d | well... here I go |
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| 01:40.56 | Guerout | azeem: ping |
| 01:41.06 | Doug52392 | i currently have 19.5gb of unparitioned space and want to dual-boot linux and windows vista. |
| 01:41.16 | Doug52392 | should i put / and /home on seperate partitions? |
| 01:41.25 | Guerout | Doug52392: yes. |
| 01:42.04 | Doug52392 | should 8gb for /, 1gb for swap, and the rest for /home be ok? |
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| 01:42.30 | Trentster | hey all, what is the easiest way to make a copy of a dvd, preferably to an iso file, and then burn the iso to a dvd5 |
| 01:42.38 | abrotman | Doug52392: 8gb for / is likely too much .. mine is 5GB and i still have room left |
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| 01:43.11 | abrotman | Doug52392: whoops .. my / is 9GB .. with almost 5GB used :) |
| 01:43.37 | Guerout | azeem: long story |
| 01:43.40 | Guerout | graah |
| 01:43.45 | Guerout | abrotman: long story |
| 01:44.03 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:44.09 | abrotman | Guerout: i have time! |
| 01:44.14 | Guerout | abrotman: at least you know it's the real me, huh |
| 01:44.26 | abrotman | Guerout: yay for /whois :) |
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| 01:44.55 | Doug52392 | so is 8gb for /, 1gb for swap, and the rest for home ok? |
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| 01:47.23 | inazad | Hi there ! I'm searching a working keylogger. Does anyone know one ? |
| 01:48.21 | Guerout | inazad: http://im4hax0r.cx |
| 01:48.43 | inazad | Guerout, what is it ? |
| 01:48.57 | Guerout | inazad:it is zeroes and ones |
| 01:49.05 | inazad | Guerout, loll |
| 01:49.22 | inazad | seriously, i want a keylogger |
| 01:49.34 | abrotman | inazad: seriously .. wrong channel |
| 01:49.34 | DawnLight | Doug52392: that's ok. you can't wait with the installation, huh |
| 01:49.50 | Guerout | inazad: seriously. Go and find one. |
| 01:50.00 | Guerout | inazad: i recommend google |
| 01:50.06 | inazad | abrotman, seriously, I will let you in peace :P |
| 01:50.12 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:50.17 | abrotman | inazad: which OS ? |
| 01:50.20 | Doug52392 | nope, but im probaly gonna have to wait until tommorow to do it |
| 01:50.32 | inazad | abrotman, linux, debian |
| 01:50.44 | abrotman | inazad: then ask google .. i doubt any DD would actually package such a thing |
| 01:51.11 | inazad | of course lol |
| 01:51.20 | abrotman | or learn how to use debian to search for such a thing |
| 01:51.53 | Winkie | hey guys, i just did quite a large sid upgrade and aptitude was removed (along with linux-kernel-headers) and attempting to reinstall aptitude errors with a missing package 'libapt-pkg-libc6.5-6-4.4' |
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| 01:51.55 | Winkie | any suggestions? |
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| 01:52.12 | abrotman | don't run sid? :) |
| 01:52.40 | Guerout | Winkie: I suggest getting the actual error message might be a start |
| 01:52.43 | Winkie | abrotman: well i'm downgrading to etch soon enough, but that involves backing things up or hoping that erasing everything but home is clean :) |
| 01:52.46 | Winkie | Guerout: well i didn't want to spam :) |
| 01:52.50 | abrotman | you can't downgrade to etch |
| 01:52.50 | Winkie | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.53 | Doug52392 | finished burning cd, im going to make sure it works now, i'll probaly be back here tommorow |
| 01:52.57 | Winkie | abrotman: see above :) |
| 01:53.03 | Winkie | i wouldn't be 'downgrading' |
| 01:53.09 | Guerout | Winkie: wait until it is installable |
| 01:53.11 | abrotman | Winkie: well .. that package is a virtual package |
| 01:53.11 | Winkie | i would be 'formatting' or deleting all but /home |
| 01:53.19 | abrotman | provided by apt apparently |
| 01:53.28 | Winkie | abrotman: ah that's why i couldn't find it |
| 01:53.32 | Winkie | i assumed someone had messed up the control file somehow |
| 01:53.45 | abrotman | Winkie: packages.debian.org is useful :) |
| 01:54.01 | Winkie | abrotman: apt-cache search is my usual method, i should really learn more about it |
| 01:54.04 | Doug52392 | bye |
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| 01:54.21 | abrotman | Winkie: erm .. apt-cache show libaptblahblblahblbah doesn't say anything ? |
| 01:54.24 | Winkie | i wonder if any of my essential files are stored outside /home |
| 01:54.49 | Winkie | abrotman: give me a specific name? |
| 01:55.00 | abrotman | !info libapt-pkg-libc6.5-6-4.4 sid |
| 01:55.01 | Winkie | would it be the full one with the version string? |
| 01:55.10 | abrotman | argh |
| 01:55.14 | craigevil | winkie my Sid system is daily dist-upgraded and aptitude installs just fine |
| 01:55.15 | Winkie | yeah it doesn't return anything for me |
| 01:55.15 | abrotman | it's just provided by apt :) |
| 01:55.32 | Winkie | craigevil: do you do it manually? |
| 01:55.42 | craigevil | apt-get install aptitude |
| 01:55.50 | craigevil | just installeds it, worked just fine |
| 01:55.51 | abrotman | Winkie: try another apt-get update ? |
| 01:55.53 | Winkie | Provides: libapt-pkg-libc6.6-6-4.4 |
| 01:55.58 | Winkie | well that's the problem |
| 01:56.04 | Winkie | abrotman: already tried it |
| 01:56.07 | Winkie | i'll change the mirror i'm using |
| 01:56.22 | abrotman | your mirror is ahead ? |
| 01:56.24 | Winkie | hmm, i was using ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 01:56.36 | abrotman | crazy brits |
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| 01:56.52 | Winkie | :) |
| 01:56.56 | Winkie | i've switched to a local ISPs mirror |
| 01:57.26 | Winkie | nope, still aptitude requires 6.5 for some reason |
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| 01:58.53 | Winkie | abrotman: any more suggestions? :) |
| 01:58.55 | oc3d | Which one of the following allows you to remove all files containing "junk" as part of their filename, EXCEPT the ones containing "no" anywhere in the filename? ls junk | grep -v no | xargs -iz rm -f z or ls junk | grep -v no | xargs -iz rm -f $2* |
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| 01:59.04 | bonez41 | how do I determine my machine's FQDN? |
| 01:59.10 | abrotman | Winkie: apt-cache policy apt .. what's the candidate ? |
| 01:59.15 | abrotman | bonez41: /etc/mailname |
| 01:59.19 | abrotman | or dns |
| 01:59.45 | Gm4n | I'm looking to setup a GUI-less debian box as a way to monitor what's happening on our network. Is this the place to be asking questions? |
| 01:59.46 | Winkie | abrotman: 0.7.4, same as installed |
| 02:00.16 | abrotman | !info apt sid |
| 02:00.18 | dpkg | apt: (Advanced front-end for dpkg), section admin, is important. Version: 0.7.4 (sid), Packaged size: 1421 kB, Installed size: 4360 kB |
| 02:00.21 | abrotman | argh |
| 02:00.24 | craigevil | Winkie try downgrading apt to 0.7.3 |
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| 02:00.40 | Winkie | craigevil: can you check your aptitude package and see what version it requires? |
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| 02:00.45 | craigevil | todays d-u to 0.7.4 removed a few things |
| 02:00.46 | bonez41 | abrotman: dns |
| 02:00.48 | en1gma | sup all |
| 02:01.03 | Winkie | Gm4n: see topic |
| 02:01.10 | Winkie | oh wait it's not in the topic |
| 02:01.26 | craigevil | !paste |
| 02:01.26 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 02:01.49 | Gm4n | Winkie: yeah, I was a bit confused =P |
| 02:01.52 | en1gma | is there a pkg for debian sid that will let me select to remove whole catagories of software like...education, games, science, GNOME... |
| 02:02.07 | en1gma | OFFICE |
| 02:02.09 | abrotman | no |
| 02:02.14 | abrotman | setup debfoster |
| 02:02.22 | dondelelcaro | actually, there is' |
| 02:02.23 | craigevil | Winkie> http://paste.debian.net/33352 |
| 02:02.25 | en1gma | i thought there were meta tags or something like that |
| 02:02.34 | dondelelcaro | en1gma: yes, you want to look at debtags with aptitude |
| 02:02.41 | en1gma | ok thanks |
| 02:02.44 | en1gma | preciate it |
| 02:02.49 | abrotman | doh .. forgot about debtags .. |
| 02:02.59 | abrotman | they should make them more obvious :) |
| 02:03.08 | Winkie | craigevil: ah, so it seems my apt is ahead |
| 02:03.10 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: they're at the bottom of all apt-cache show output now |
| 02:03.21 | abrotman | i know .. i just ignore them .. they should blink |
| 02:03.22 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: maybe they need neon too? ;-) |
| 02:03.29 | craigevil | i put apt on hold today, it wanted to remove a bunch of crap |
| 02:03.40 | abrotman | yes .. neon! |
| 02:03.52 | Winkie | yeah i just did a massive update blindly to see if it worked, i may just remove everything and install etch |
| 02:04.08 | Winkie | i just have to remember if i stored any of my files anywhere useful :) |
| 02:04.11 | Winkie | so i don't delete them |
| 02:04.21 | en1gma | i been checking sid apt-update and there has been no updates for like 4 days at least |
| 02:04.31 | en1gma | usually there are like 50 a day i thought |
| 02:04.40 | craigevil | todays apt update would have removed: apt-file apt-show-versions debsecan debtags libapt-pkg-perl libept0 libglib1.2 python-apt synaptic |
| 02:05.06 | en1gma | omg |
| 02:05.13 | dondelelcaro | uh... apt-get update; doesn't remove anything |
| 02:05.16 | Hoxzer | Why aint I feeling right |
| 02:05.26 | Winkie | Hoxzer: bad dinner? |
| 02:05.39 | en1gma | i just installed debtags and hes saying it would have removed it |
| 02:05.40 | en1gma | lol |
| 02:05.44 | Hoxzer | Winkie: :/ naah, noodles are always fine |
| 02:05.44 | en1gma | is he joking |
| 02:06.00 | craigevil | enigma in Sid |
| 02:06.05 | en1gma | yea |
| 02:06.07 | Winkie | craigevil: i think i'm just going to go to etch or lenny, how much more stable is lenny? enough that problems like this are rare? |
| 02:06.43 | dondelelcaro | Winkie: lenny is testing. Its stability levels are unstable. |
| 02:07.01 | Winkie | dondelelcaro: i know that, but i want a subjective measure of stability |
| 02:07.10 | dondelelcaro | Winkie: I give it a 3. |
| 02:07.19 | Winkie | ok, a subjective relative measure |
| 02:07.24 | craigevil | thats why i always do apt-get dist-upgrade -d so I cna see what is going to be removed/installed |
| 02:07.40 | dondelelcaro | Winkie: ok, a 3 in units of Mu. ;-) |
| 02:07.45 | Winkie | dondelelcaro: that's not relative |
| 02:07.46 | Winkie | that's quantified |
| 02:07.47 | abrotman | craigevil: it does ask you confirm the action |
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| 02:07.58 | dondelelcaro | Winkie: it's relative to one Mu, of course! |
| 02:08.14 | craigevil | yeah but that way i can have it go ahead and download, the figure out what to do |
| 02:08.16 | Winkie | dondelelcaro: no it isn't! one Mu is an arbitrary unit |
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| 02:08.26 | dondelelcaro | Winkie: isn't everything? |
| 02:08.29 | Winkie | anyway enough of this, am i likely to have the same issues or is lenny checked for this? |
| 02:08.37 | Winkie | dondelelcaro: no, relative measures are explicitly non arbitrary |
| 02:08.39 | Winkie | hence the name :) |
| 02:08.42 | en1gma | im in synaptic and i dont see any section that list catagories of software to uninstall |
| 02:08.44 | abrotman | Winkie: i still have aptitude :) |
| 02:08.54 | Winkie | abrotman: lucky you :( |
| 02:08.57 | abrotman | en1gma: dondelelcaro told you to use debtags and aptitude |
| 02:08.57 | Winkie | : |
| 02:08.57 | Winkie | :p |
| 02:09.01 | abrotman | Winkie: in lenny i mean |
| 02:09.07 | en1gma | ohhh in aptitude |
| 02:09.09 | en1gma | k |
| 02:09.15 | dondelelcaro | Winkie: actually, they're not; but in this case, no, you shouldn't have that problem in testing. |
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| 02:09.35 | Winkie | dondelelcaro: i disagree with your first point, but thanks on the second :) |
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| 02:10.13 | dondelelcaro | Winkie: if you think about how we agree on measuring things, you'll find that the choice of things that we measure them relative too is entirely arbitrary, even though we tend to agree on it after a while. |
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| 02:10.36 | uptownben | I see that when I try to perfrom a apt-get upgrade it says 5 packages "not fully installed" what does this mean and how can I fix that? |
| 02:10.52 | dondelelcaro | uptownben: you want to run dpkg --configure -a; or similar. |
| 02:11.01 | Winkie | dondelelcaro: well the choice of comparison may well be arbitrary, but the values returned from the comparison most certainly will not, excepting in esoteric QM situations |
| 02:11.03 | dondelelcaro | uptownben: possibly apt-get -f install; |
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| 02:11.18 | lymeca | I'm in an APT conundrum... I need libc6 upgraded from 2.6-2 to 2.6-3, but it can't unless there's this package 'cg' removed because of some conflicting file. I installed cg from an RPM using alien, and I have *no* problem removing it, but when I mark it for removal it flags many other essential packages for removal as well. |
| 02:11.35 | uptownben | The thing is that I think those packages are broken.. I don't really want them installed. |
| 02:11.39 | bitter- | quick question: i am trying to boot an installation from the hd and install over the network. i downloaded the files from hd-media/ but it keeps looking for an ISO. which directory holds the correct install files? |
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| 02:11.52 | lymeca | When I try and upgrade libc6: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.6-3_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib64', which is also in package cg" |
| 02:12.20 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: ugh. you really shouldn't use rpm packages, but... |
| 02:12.24 | dondelelcaro | !force-overwrite |
| 02:12.24 | dpkg | The reason you have been told to use --force-overwrite is because some packages in unstable are buggy and either have missing Conflicts: or contain files that they shouldn't. Check the BTS and make sure that a bug has been filed about the package in question (ask me about <bts>) then run dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/.deb or apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <foopackagename>; |
| 02:12.27 | Winkie | lymeca: i'm no expert, but you can likely force the install just fine |
| 02:12.28 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: use the above command. |
| 02:13.26 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: and after doing that, you may want to remove cg, because whatever it is, it stomped all over /usr/ |
| 02:13.38 | uptownben | id there a dpkg -purge command that will remove incomplete/broken packages? |
| 02:13.47 | uptownben | *is |
| 02:13.49 | dondelelcaro | no |
| 02:14.07 | dondelelcaro | well, you may be able to purge the packages, but generally it'll have you complete the install first. |
| 02:14.17 | lymeca | apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install libc6 |
| 02:14.22 | lymeca | Just like that dondelelcaro? |
| 02:14.30 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: yes. |
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| 02:15.04 | mzb | Winkie: I run sid on a few of machines. In general, as long as I watch upgrades carefully, everything works. If you don't have a lot of patience, and haven't got extensive experience with Debian I suggest you avoid sid. Relatively, I guess it's 2x as hard to keep a sid system running nicely as compared to a testing system :) |
| 02:15.06 | uptownben | I get a "file list for packages missing" error. |
| 02:15.12 | lymeca | Excellent, libc6 has upgraded... now to purge cg |
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| 02:15.50 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: yeah, just keep an eye on it, and make sure it doesn't remove anything else you need. |
| 02:15.55 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: you may want to dpkg -L cg; first. |
| 02:16.01 | Winkie | mzb: i have a reasonable amount of experience and i was able to locate the problem with aptitude with a little help. I am interested in running lenny simply because I am lazy as hell when it comes to updates, but I also like to play with fancy new features |
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| 02:16.26 | mzb | Winkie: try ubuntu then ;) |
| 02:16.58 | oc3d | NIS stores its info in ASCII or in SQL db? |
| 02:17.05 | dondelelcaro | oc3d: either |
| 02:17.26 | Winkie | mzb: i don't know why i dislike ubuntu, i really should try it again but last time i was not that impressed |
| 02:17.28 | oc3d | what about the default mode of operation? |
| 02:17.35 | bitter- | nm, found the answer |
| 02:17.37 | uptownben | How can I fix this error: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `libxmuu1' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
| 02:17.48 | Winkie | mzb: it's a weird feeling, debian just appears to be cleaner and more well maintained |
| 02:18.03 | Winkie | only question is can i find a bloody writable CD :) |
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| 02:18.29 | dondelelcaro | uptownben: best to reinstall that package |
| 02:18.31 | mzb | Winkie: I have found it excellent for customers. Lot's of easy-to-find docs, reasonable modern features, nice integration. |
| 02:18.51 | Winkie | Gm4n: I'm at home, but it's 3:20am and everyone else is asleep :) |
| 02:18.51 | TMH_ | hi all. I have a package that i want to keep constantly at the same version |
| 02:18.52 | dondelelcaro | uptownben: that usually means that someone has deleted /var/lib/dpkg/info/libxmuu1.list; |
| 02:18.59 | Winkie | mzb: you're making me want to try it more damn you :) |
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| 02:19.02 | TMH_ | i.e. i want it to be ignored when i do apt-get upgrade |
| 02:19.02 | loquitus_of_borg | Hi. How would I copy all the files that match a grep search, to a certain other directory? For example, the following does not work: find . | xargs grep -l "foobar" | xargs cp somedirectory |
| 02:19.05 | mzb | Winkie: (and free cd's posted to you) |
| 02:19.43 | lymeca | Awesome, thanks dondelelcaro... and I won't post the same questions in both debian channels at the same time anymore. |
| 02:20.04 | uptownben | dondelelcaro: how can I clean that up? |
| 02:20.11 | dondelelcaro | loquitus_of_borg: you want to use -exec grep -q -l 'foobar' '{}' ';' -print0 |xargs -0 cp -t dir; |
| 02:20.17 | dondelelcaro | loquitus_of_borg: man find; man xargs; man cp; |
| 02:20.23 | Innatech | loquitus_of_bog: you assimilate someone who knows how. |
| 02:20.34 | loquitus_of_borg | Innatech: haha |
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| 02:21.03 | lymeca | I sometimes notice that when I have many upgrades available to currently installed packages that if I mark too many for upgrade at once it will cause things to go wrong, such as marking things for removal that are obviously not supposed to be removed. When I select the SAME packages for upgrade in small chunks at a time, however, it all goes fine. |
| 02:21.39 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: you're better off just using aptitude; you can then hit U; if it picks a bad solution, then pick a better one, or don't upgrade those packages. |
| 02:21.57 | lymeca | Now I do run sid, so I'm not complaining about this in and of itself happening to me. But this behavior is bad in terms of the general well-being of Debian: Joe Sixpack shouldn't have to worry about marking all upgrades at once and it working. |
| 02:22.09 | mzb | Winkie: I've recently completed a cut down install of Ubuntu on a 2GB flash card for a d800 laptop ... works reasonably well, looks nice ... just working on converting the rootfs to squashfs ... now I suspect that procedure could be an issue with a vanilla Debian install, as I'd probably have to compile a kernel (not enough room) |
| 02:22.19 | lymeca | So my question is if this situations can be considered bugs worthy of filing against the packages at fault. |
| 02:22.21 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: you don't need to do that at all, actually. Just use the curses interface to aptitude. |
| 02:22.31 | sayers | I installed i386 version of Debian on amd64 and it doesnt seem to detect both cores |
| 02:22.45 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: if the situations are actually bugs instead of cases where buildds are slow or packages haven't progressed from NEW, then yes, file bugs. |
| 02:22.47 | oc3d | Why is it that the Apache Web server has fewer security advisories than mail or ftp servers? |
| 02:22.50 | Winkie | mzb: well ideally i'd mount the ubuntu CD on another machine and just tftp it |
| 02:23.07 | Winkie | but unfortunately my DHCP server is a worthless router |
| 02:23.10 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: How do I tell between the two though? |
| 02:23.21 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: by looking at exactly why the package can't be installed |
| 02:23.35 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: once you see which package is missing, you figure out why it's missing |
| 02:23.40 | lymeca | I mean I have a bunch of upgrades available, and they don't work when I select them all at once, but they DO work if I select them bits at a time. |
| 02:23.53 | mzb | Winkie: I don't mean a "Live CD" on SD card, I mean full-blown rootfs |
| 02:23.55 | lymeca | So there's obviously some silly superficial bug going on to my eyes.... |
| 02:24.16 | Winkie | mzb: no i understand, i'm just talking about how i'm going to install it |
| 02:24.17 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: don't work in what way? How are you "selecting them all at once"? |
| 02:24.19 | Winkie | because i'm not entirely sure :) |
| 02:24.34 | mzb | Winkie: good luck ;) |
| 02:24.52 | Winkie | there's got to be a kernel + initrd package like debian which just has a cut down installer |
| 02:24.55 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: IN Synaptic if I highlight a very large chunk and mark them for upgrade, or more commonly just hit the "Mark All Upgrades" button. |
| 02:25.03 | Winkie | all i need is busybox :( |
| 02:25.20 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: oh; use aptitude instead. |
| 02:25.24 | mzb | Winkie: you might find debootstrap easier to use ... just modify the std debian debootstrap to include Feisty and off you go! :) |
| 02:25.27 | lymeca | I now know never to use that button because it rarely works if I have more than just a handful of updates available. |
| 02:25.52 | Winkie | mzb: unfortunately i'd need to have something else i can boot off or i would be erasing a running system |
| 02:25.59 | Winkie | oh the perils of modern computing eh? |
| 02:26.05 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: Right, okay well while I do like aptitude better, I really believe this shouldn't be an issue with Synaptic. |
| 02:26.08 | Winkie | i might just find a usb key and dd the cd image to it |
| 02:26.12 | Winkie | might work :D |
| 02:26.19 | lymeca | An issue experienced when using Synaptic, rather... |
| 02:26.35 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 02:26.35 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ or http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian |
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| 02:26.53 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: well, I've never seen the problem that you're referering to while using aptitude. It's possible that it's a bug with synaptic, but without seeing the exact list of packages that you're trying to upgrade and the output, it's impossible for me to tell |
| 02:27.08 | mzb | Winkie: be aware that the unionfs feature in Feisty doesn't work ... hence why I did install to rootfs rather than SD-boot of image. |
| 02:27.33 | Winkie | mzb: yeah after reviewing the documentation i'm going looking for a CD |
| 02:27.37 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: It happens all the time. |
| 02:27.41 | mzb | err. let me clarify that ... the "persistant" feature doesn't work |
| 02:27.42 | uptownben | I am getting this error when when removing libdps1: dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: Exec format error |
| 02:27.44 | Winkie | i could hack it in but i'm too tired and frankly not too lazy to search a little |
| 02:27.48 | uptownben | any clues? |
| 02:27.55 | mzb | s/persistant/persistent/ |
| 02:28.25 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: I've actually seen it happen to Synaptic users on Ubuntu as well, which makes me think of it as an inherent problem of how Synaptic handles APT |
| 02:28.37 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: could be |
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| 02:29.08 | mzb | Winkie: I found modifying Debian's debootstrap to add Feisty was easiest way, then debootstrapped the SD-card |
| 02:29.38 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: But while I personally even prefer aptitiude and don't have a problem using it, I can hardly recommend using it to more 'normal' users. Synaptic works much better for them, being a GUI frontend and all... I'd just like to figure out what the cause of these happenings are and if I can help by filing bug reports. |
| 02:32.55 | sayers | How do I kill X? |
| 02:33.00 | sayers | and make sure it's dead |
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| 02:35.20 | Doug52392 | hi |
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| 02:35.44 | icon0x | how do you add a startup script? |
| 02:36.15 | Doug52392 | i am about to install Debian on my new computer, but i have been concerned about support for my wireless card |
| 02:36.33 | abrotman | which is it ? |
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| 02:36.36 | abrotman | !run at startup |
| 02:36.36 | dpkg | Make a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ then install it with update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README, or as a user you can also use a cron entry with @reboot |
| 02:36.56 | icon0x | ty dpkg |
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| 02:38.19 | Doug52392 | i have a Linksys WMP54G PCI adapter, which i already tried on opensuse linux, but would not work because ndiswrapper wouldnt work |
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| 02:40.08 | Doug52392 | i googled it, and found quite a few results, one from Linksys that said they had linux drivers, but not for Linksys WMP54G. is my wireless card going to work right when i instal debian onto my computer? |
| 02:40.26 | Winkie | mzb: woohoo it appears one of the 7 year old CDs I had in an old box is blank and writable! |
| 02:40.34 | Winkie | lets hope it doesn't error out too much :) |
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| 02:44.37 | Doug52392 | hi, im about to install debian linux on my computer, but i think my wireless card (a linksys WMP54G wireless card with the RaLink RT61 chipset) is incompatable with linux. how do i fix this? |
| 02:45.27 | abrotman | !find ralink etch |
| 02:45.34 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'ralink' returned no results. |
| 02:45.37 | Winkie | Doug52392: without researching into if it is incompatible, have you checked out ndiswrapper? |
| 02:46.08 | Winkie | it would appear ralink provide drivers at the least |
| 02:46.09 | abrotman | !info rt2400-source etch |
| 02:46.12 | dpkg | rt2400-source: (RT2400 wireless network drivers source), section net, is extra. Version: 1.2.2+cvs20060620-4 (etch), Packaged size: 169 kB, Installed size: 196 kB |
| 02:46.19 | Doug52392 | yes, i tried it with opensuse linux, but that did not work |
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| 02:47.45 | zinx | Doug52392: google says (first hit, no less): http://elonen.iki.fi/code/misc-notes/debian-rt61/index.html |
| 02:48.44 | zinx | Doug52392: there is a rt2x00-source package in debian which you can automatically build for your system using "m-a a-i rt2x00" |
| 02:48.51 | oc3d | can the command "route" on linux set up dynamic routes? |
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| 02:49.11 | zinx | Doug52392: of course, that will only work in debian. but this is #debian, so I hope you came here asking for a debian answer. |
| 02:49.13 | uptownben | So I have 5 packages "not fully installed or removed" and I can't get past it to complete my apt-upgrade. I DONT want to install those packages I want to remove them from the "queue" how can I do that? |
| 02:49.20 | stew | oc3d: what exactly do you mean by 'dynamic'? |
| 02:49.32 | stew | uptownben: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 02:50.01 | oc3d | stew: probably means some non static routing protocol implementation or configuration? |
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| 02:50.12 | Doug52392 | yes i did, well i was trying to get opensuse to work, i did not really like it, debian looks very good, so im going to install it tomorow |
| 02:50.29 | oc3d | stew: Which one of the following can the "route" program NOT do? |
| 02:50.30 | stew | oc3d: then no, not via the route command, you'd need to install a routing daemon |
| 02:50.32 | zinx | !info rt2x00-source etch |
| 02:50.35 | dpkg | rt2x00-source: (RT2x00 wireless network drivers source), section net, is extra. Version: 0cvs20060928-1 (etch), Packaged size: 298 kB, Installed size: 324 kB |
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| 02:51.06 | Doug52392 | so i shouldnt have a problem with my wireless card once i install that package? |
| 02:51.13 | zinx | that is new enough if the site's right about the integration date(s) |
| 02:51.18 | stew | oc3d: 'apt-cache show quagga' perhaps? |
| 02:51.33 | zinx | i can't say you won't have problems, but i suspect your life will be a lot easier with a working kernel module for your card :) |
| 02:51.53 | uptownben | OK.. I put everything in the pastebin |
| 02:52.08 | zinx | and of course, if you have any problems with it you can come back here w/ the new problems |
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| 02:52.17 | Doug52392 | ok thanks |
| 02:52.34 | uptownben | stew: I'm not sure I did the pastebin thing right. |
| 02:52.44 | uptownben | do you see what I pasted? |
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| 02:53.05 | drowe | Doug52392: I just worked on setting up the WMP54G, like just 30 minutes ago. |
| 02:53.05 | stew | uptownben: where did you paste it? if you did it correctly, you should have a url you can give me |
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| 02:53.37 | drowe | Doug52392: just build the driver from the serialmonkey site. Worked like a dream for me. |
| 02:54.02 | drowe | Doug52392: mine was a WMP54G v4.1 |
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| 02:54.18 | zinx | drowe: did you try the rt2x00-source? |
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| 02:54.40 | zinx | drowe: it might be newer and still supported, according to the serialmonkey site |
| 02:55.13 | zinx | erh, nevermind |
| 02:55.16 | zinx | i got my sites mixed up |
| 02:55.30 | uptownben | stew: here is the full output: http://pastebin.ca/632711 |
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| 02:55.34 | zinx | rt2x00 is from the serialmonkey site :) |
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| 02:57.11 | Doug52392 | that one works ok? |
| 02:57.22 | Hoxzer | :P rt2x00 cvs in pretty unstable I'm warning |
| 02:57.28 | stew | uptownben: i'd recommend trying "aptitude reinstall package1 package2 package3..." for all of the package giving you problems and if you can reinstall them, they shoould uninstall cleanly |
| 02:57.59 | zinx | Hoxzer: debian generally takes stable versions of packages when they take from CVS |
| 02:58.09 | uptownben | stew: OK I'll try it now. |
| 02:58.19 | Braguz | why people recommend apt-get instead of aptitude? |
| 02:58.28 | zinx | Hoxzer: or at least ones that have minimal bugs reported :) |
| 02:58.37 | Doug52392 | i also found drivers right from RaLink, the makers of the chipset, http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html, would those work? |
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| 02:59.09 | zinx | Doug52392: probably, but i'd check if they use the standard linux wireless extensions or not |
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| 02:59.29 | Braguz | Doug, what adapter do you have? |
| 02:59.37 | oc3d | is gnome officially a windows manager? |
| 02:59.41 | zinx | a lot of drivers don't, even non-third party ones.. pain in the arse to have to use different tools for every card, each with an interface more convoluted than the last |
| 03:00.05 | zinx | oc3d: it's officially a desktop environment, metacity is a window manager. |
| 03:00.14 | oc3d | zinx: thnks! |
| 03:00.17 | Braguz | Doug52392: what is your wifi-adapter? |
| 03:01.29 | Doug52392 | its a Linksys WMP54G V. 4.01, RaLink 61 chipset |
| 03:01.41 | teksimian | hey, I did a dist-upgrade to unstable, and aptitude disappeared. |
| 03:01.45 | Doug52392 | Rt61 chipset |
| 03:02.30 | zinx | teksimian: well you shouldn't have told it ok :) |
| 03:02.45 | zinx | aptitude was broken in i386 at one point, maybe it still is? |
| 03:03.05 | Braguz | <Doug52392> I see. I solved the problem for DWL121 by downloading the rt73 driver from Ralink guys. |
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| 03:03.20 | uptownben | stew: these are the errors at the end of the aptitude processing: http://pastebin.ca/632715 |
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| 03:03.35 | oc3d | an HP PS printer would require a ps filter to be aplied to the to-be-printed file... before it would have to be sent to the printer? |
| 03:04.07 | oc3d | that came out dumb |
| 03:04.13 | oc3d | sorry |
| 03:04.24 | zinx | CUPS will do all of that for you :x |
| 03:04.34 | Doug52392 | well, i'll install it tomorow and see if i have any troble |
| 03:05.08 | oc3d | zinx: ok |
| 03:05.37 | Braguz | <Doug52392> there is a good howto: try googling "belkin ubuntu rt73" |
| 03:05.38 | teksimian | zinx; synaptic is gone too |
| 03:05.55 | zinx | teksimian: you get to keep the pieces |
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| 03:07.19 | uptownben | stew: should I try an aptitude purge? |
| 03:07.25 | Doug52392 | i'll probaly be on tomorrow, until then bye everyone |
| 03:07.46 | Braguz | bye |
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| 03:12.10 | uptownben | how do I remove/purge unconfigured packages? |
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| 03:12.41 | kingdsand | hi |
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| 03:25.57 | uptownben | if I see errors like this: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `libxmuu1' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. can I just use -force to get rid of them? |
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| 03:31.27 | enouf | !confmiss |
| 03:31.27 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 03:32.55 | uptownben | enouf: was that for me? |
| 03:33.15 | enouf | uptownben: i guess .. |
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| 03:33.38 | uptownben | enouf: I'm not sure how to use it. |
| 03:34.11 | enouf | uptownben: dpkg tells you, explicitly howto |
| 03:34.12 | uptownben | dpkg -confmiss -a? |
| 03:36.14 | enouf | uptownben: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> <--that uptownben , however, aptitude resolves dependency issues, maybe play with that (I don;t use aptitude) |
| 03:36.15 | uptownben | I tried it but I just keep getting about 5 errors like this one: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `libxpm4' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
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| 03:37.32 | enouf | uptownben: if you've been mixing/editing your sources.list and including different releases, (that assumes) you can fix it yourself |
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| 03:40.39 | uptownben | I think I know what happened. I am running SARGE, a whhile back I tried an apt-get upgrade but my sources.list did not specify SARGE all the sources were set to STABLE (or whatever the default was), so when I tried to upgrade it downloaded ETCH packages and tried to install them.. That |
| 03:40.49 | uptownben | s's when these errors started. |
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| 03:42.23 | stoned | enouf: whats up |
| 03:42.55 | enouf | stoned: yo yo.. doo bee doo? |
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| 03:43.22 | uptownben | I have since updated my sources.list but these errors wont go away. How can I clean up this package mess? |
| 03:43.23 | enouf | uptownben: yep, that'll do it |
| 03:43.30 | enouf | !mantra |
| 03:43.37 | enouf | bah |
| 03:44.16 | stoned | apt-get instlal kubuntu-desktop |
| 03:44.25 | enouf | uptownben: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade (hunt for the simulation option ,and try the 1st maybe) |
| 03:44.25 | stoned | all that you know burns away into dust |
| 03:45.05 | stoned | !xwinman |
| 03:45.05 | dpkg | i heard xwinman is <URL:http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/> |
| 03:45.10 | uptownben | I don't really want to do a dist-upgrade, I want to stay with SARGE for now. |
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| 03:46.02 | runev | shouldn't setting, say three, modes (Mode "1280x800" "800x600 "640x480") in xorg.conf under my default Depth, allow me to use CTRL + ALT + -/+ to change resolutions, or must i do something more? |
| 03:47.42 | uptownben | OK, how can I just PURGE the "not fully installed or removed" packages? |
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| 03:50.01 | Rusty1 | uptownben: try dpkg --forget-old-unavail ? |
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| 03:53.01 | sanxiyn | dpkg, dbugs 434560 |
| 03:53.04 | dpkg | #434560:I[libvte9] gnome-terminal: cursor up/down dont't work; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:30:04 UTC |
| 03:53.33 | sanxiyn | Downgrading libvte9 worked for me, but quite unfortunate. |
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| 03:56.31 | Maliuta | anyone else having issues with Pidgin (formerly gaim) segfaulting on installs of unstable? |
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| 03:57.49 | stoned | Maliuta: unstable isn't really supported per se |
| 03:57.57 | stoned | Maliuta: check the BTS |
| 03:58.34 | sanxiyn | Maliuta: BTS doesn't show pidgin bug segfaulting on install. |
| 03:58.37 | Maliuta | stoned: I know that, I was just asking because I can see several bugs in the BTS that could be the one I have |
| 03:58.50 | uptownben | Rusty1: that did really do anything. |
| 03:59.02 | Maliuta | I don't want to duplicate bugs in the BTS |
| 03:59.02 | uptownben | Rusty1:*didnt |
| 04:00.13 | sanxiyn | Maliuta: Just report it. The point is to do reasonable effort to find already filed bugs, not to avoid filing duplicate in all cases |
| 04:00.49 | solemnwarning | Why does debian have 3 versions of db? |
| 04:00.59 | stoned | db? |
| 04:01.14 | solemnwarning | libdb/ect |
| 04:01.20 | sanxiyn | solemnwarning: Debian has multiple versions of libdb. |
| 04:01.29 | stoned | I dunno |
| 04:01.36 | solemnwarning | sanxiyn: What for? |
| 04:01.37 | stoned | but I can't breath out of my nose and its pissin me off |
| 04:01.48 | solemnwarning | Arn't all the debian package linked against one version? |
| 04:01.51 | sanxiyn | solemnwarning: Because different softwares depend on different versions of Berkley DB. |
| 04:01.53 | Maliuta | libdb3 libdb4 ... they provide different versions of libdb |
| 04:01.55 | sanxiyn | solemnwarning: No. |
| 04:02.02 | sanxiyn | solemnwarning: Which is unfortunate. |
| 04:02.09 | solemnwarning | Ah |
| 04:02.23 | solemnwarning | 4.2,4.3 and 4.4 are incompatible then? |
| 04:02.39 | sanxiyn | Yes. |
| 04:02.44 | sanxiyn | solemnwarning: Try this yourself |
| 04:02.50 | sanxiyn | apt-cache rdepends libdb4.2 |
| 04:02.52 | sanxiyn | apt-cache rdepends libdb4.3 |
| 04:02.52 | sanxiyn | apt-cache rdepends libdb4.4 |
| 04:03.00 | sanxiyn | apt-cache rdepends libdb4.5 |
| 04:03.10 | sanxiyn | (rdepends mean reverse dependencies) |
| 04:03.40 | stoned | hey man |
| 04:03.42 | stoned | wtf |
| 04:04.13 | sanxiyn | I see 37 packages using 4.2, 40 packages 4.3, 55 packages 4.4, and 64 packages 4.5. |
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| 04:10.11 | uptownben | OK.. can anyone point me to a quick and painless way to do a dist-upgrade? |
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| 04:11.57 | sanxiyn | uptownben: To which release? Etch? |
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| 04:13.11 | sanxiyn | uptownben: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/releasenotes is a good bet. Do read "Upgrades from previous releases" chapter. |
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| 04:18.09 | uptownben | Unbelieveable, I can't event do a dist-upgrade because of the same errors.. |
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| 04:19.15 | uptownben | I can't get around this: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `libxrandr2' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. !!!!! |
| 04:20.08 | Hoxzer | have you tried reinstall that package ? |
| 04:20.54 | metbsd | im now using 2.6.10-rc3 as kernel |
| 04:21.00 | metbsd | should i upgrade ? |
| 04:21.11 | sanxiyn | metbsd: Probably. |
| 04:21.14 | Maliuta | that is very old |
| 04:21.17 | Maliuta | I would |
| 04:21.25 | metbsd | that's what the previous administrator installed |
| 04:21.28 | metbsd | what's rc3? |
| 04:21.31 | Maliuta | just avoud the 2.6.17 series if you are using xfs |
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| 04:21.41 | Maliuta | release candidate |
| 04:21.53 | metbsd | i use reiserfs |
| 04:22.02 | uptownben | yes, Hoxzer: tried reinstalling that package but it wont install |
| 04:22.06 | metbsd | i just hope after upgrading, kernel will not panic because of raid |
| 04:22.24 | Hoxzer | uptownben: same error ? |
| 04:23.10 | sanxiyn | metbsd: Does current kernel have some out-of-tree modules? |
| 04:23.24 | Hoxzer | try "dpkg --purge --dry-run libxrandr2" and see what would happen if you purged that package |
| 04:23.26 | metbsd | sanxiyn, possible |
| 04:23.44 | sanxiyn | metbsd: Check loaded modules and make sure all of them are present in the new kernel. |
| 04:23.47 | metbsd | it's an old exim4 server with SA and clamavd |
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| 04:28.46 | uptownben | Hoxzer: This is what I get when I try to install that package: http://pastebin.ca/632773 |
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| 04:29.26 | metbsd | W: GPG error: http://debian.cn99.com stable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: |
| 04:29.35 | metbsd | it's what i get when i do aptitude update |
| 04:30.01 | Maliuta | non-US is nolonger needed |
| 04:30.16 | Maliuta | apparently ssh isn't a munition anylonger |
| 04:30.21 | metbsd | oh since when did it happen |
| 04:30.29 | Maliuta | ages ago |
| 04:30.40 | Maliuta | about 1-2 years I think |
| 04:30.41 | Hoxzer | uptownben: try to remove libdps1 |
| 04:31.05 | uptownben | apt-get remove libdps1? |
| 04:31.12 | Hoxzer | yeah.. |
| 04:31.21 | Maliuta | dpkg --purge |
| 04:31.28 | Hoxzer | if there are no packages that depend on it |
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| 04:31.48 | metbsd | i change repo then |
| 04:32.17 | Hoxzer | Maliuta: that will delete config files also which might not be necessary |
| 04:33.09 | metbsd | is it safe to run aptitude dist-upgrade? it's a mail server for serious task |
| 04:33.13 | uptownben | doing a apt-get remove libdps1 just gives me the same errors as before, will try the dpkg --purge... |
| 04:33.30 | Hoxzer | do that |
| 04:33.36 | metbsd | will my server be fcked up if i do aptitude dist-upgrade? |
| 04:34.07 | sanxiyn | metbsd: Well be careful. |
| 04:34.12 | sanxiyn | metbsd: Also read the release note. |
| 04:34.12 | metbsd | how |
| 04:34.15 | Hoxzer | metbsd: If your system haven't been updated lately it is possible |
| 04:34.37 | metbsd | it's upgrading kernel and clamav! |
| 04:34.43 | Hoxzer | metbsd: some config file might get out dated for example |
| 04:34.54 | uptownben | This is what I get when I try the dpkg --purge libdps1 : http://pastebin.ca/632775 |
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| 04:35.01 | nvz | metbsd: you say that like upgrades are bad |
| 04:35.10 | metbsd | at least it's not upgrading exim4 |
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| 04:35.20 | metbsd | i don't trust upgrade |
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| 04:35.51 | metbsd | usually servers stop working after upgrade |
| 04:35.53 | Hoxzer | uptownben: seems like you have problems with multiple packages. You haven't done anything "Not smart" lately ? |
| 04:35.57 | nvz | in soviet russia, upgrades don't trust you |
| 04:36.27 | metbsd | upgrade usually means get latest bug |
| 04:36.38 | sanxiyn | metbsd: Well, not if you use stable. |
| 04:36.49 | metbsd | im using stable |
| 04:37.12 | sanxiyn | I trust Debian stable updates. |
| 04:37.54 | nvz | I'd trust a sandwitch right about now |
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| 04:38.44 | metbsd | well, i'll tell you if this major upgrade works or not |
| 04:39.03 | metbsd | i'm almost guarantee that i'll tweak spamassasin and clamav |
| 04:39.16 | nvz | I'll tell you if my refridgerator is running or not. :P |
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| 04:40.08 | uptownben | Hoxzer: It's what I was saying earlier, the default sources.list for my SARGE install were set to STABLE, apparently my last apt-get upgrade attempt used stable(etch) and tried to download/install etch packages.. that's when the errors started. |
| 04:40.19 | nvz | packages cant install new configs without you telling it to |
| 04:41.24 | uptownben | I have since modified my sources.list to point to SARGE, but the errors remain. |
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| 04:42.52 | uptownben | can't I just purge all these unconfigured/problematic packages? |
| 04:43.29 | sanxiyn | uptownben: Yes, that sucks. |
| 04:43.29 | stoned | nvz: yo |
| 04:43.38 | uptownben | if they are not installed or are stuck in the process of being removed can't I just do some kind of PURGE? |
| 04:43.45 | Hoxzer | uptownben: just test quickly if "dpkg -L *" even prints anything |
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| 04:43.55 | thirst | hi guys. |
| 04:44.29 | uptownben | Package `apt.conf.d' is not installed. |
| 04:44.31 | uptownben | Package `sources.list' is not installed. |
| 04:44.33 | matadon | Is there a way to tell Debian to rebuild /dev? Or has my life gotten very, very shitty, thanks to udev and a typo? |
| 04:44.44 | metbsd | shit, after upgrading, i have both kernel-image-2.6-686 2.6.18+6 and linux-image-2.6-686 2.6.18+6 |
| 04:44.50 | matadon | (A big chunk of /dev now has bad permissions and is owned by group saned, so I'm not very happy). |
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| 04:45.01 | metbsd | which one should i keep? |
| 04:45.15 | sanxiyn | metbsd: linux-image. |
| 04:45.32 | metbsd | so i delete kernel-image using aptitude purge? |
| 04:45.39 | metbsd | that's ok? |
| 04:45.41 | sanxiyn | metbsd: If you apt-cache show kernel-image-..., you should see that it's a transitional package. |
| 04:45.46 | desper | Modem is not working on Ubuntu with the help of gnome-ppp , wvdail help |
| 04:45.54 | thirst | compiz crashes on my system(nvidia 7600GS) with latest upgrade on lenny, but fluxbox works just fine. any known way to fix it ? is compiling kernel without paravirt_ops, the fix ? |
| 04:45.56 | sanxiyn | metbsd: Check the package description to make sure it's a transitional package, and yes, after that you can purge it. |
| 04:46.07 | Hoxzer | uptownben: it should give you a huge print out of files. Do you get that ? |
| 04:46.14 | metbsd | how do i know it's transition or not |
| 04:46.16 | nevyn | matadon: you should be able to fix the typo and reboot and it should be good given that udev doesn't keep dev permissions over a reboot |
| 04:46.20 | nevyn | should |
| 04:46.31 | sanxiyn | metbsd: Check package description. |
| 04:46.32 | matadon | nevyn: That worries me. Will udev rebuild all of /dev? |
| 04:46.44 | sanxiyn | matadon: Yes. |
| 04:46.53 | metbsd | Description: Linux 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 - transition package |
| 04:46.53 | metbsd | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.57 | metbsd | what's transition mean |
| 04:46.58 | matadon | Ok, I'll give that a go, then. |
| 04:46.59 | matadon | Thanks. |
| 04:47.08 | uptownben | I only got what I posted: dpkg -L * |
| 04:47.09 | sanxiyn | metbsd: It means you can delete it. |
| 04:47.09 | uptownben | Package `apt.conf.d' is not installed. |
| 04:47.12 | uptownben | Package `sources.list' is not installed. |
| 04:47.12 | uptownben | Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files, |
| 04:47.14 | uptownben | and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents. |
| 04:47.24 | sanxiyn | uptownben: Quote '*'. |
| 04:47.44 | sanxiyn | uptownben: Try just 'dpkg -l' |
| 04:48.07 | uptownben | Package `*' is not installed. |
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| 04:49.06 | metbsd | how can i see postinstall message of linux-image |
| 04:49.56 | uptownben | This is what I get from dpkg -l : http://pastebin.ca/632782 |
| 04:50.08 | uptownben | how does that help me? |
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| 04:51.23 | metbsd | how do i view postinstallation message of a package? |
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| 04:52.12 | metbsd | man uptownben you install everything? |
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| 04:52.24 | jedir0x | sup |
| 04:52.30 | jedir0x | apt-get pwnage |
| 04:52.44 | uptownben | metbsd: you think so? |
| 04:52.48 | matadon | I am very, very happy that worked. *whew* I've hosed /dev once before, and it was not a fun recovery; then again, that was a long time ago. |
| 04:53.00 | metbsd | except gnome and kde |
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| 04:53.27 | nevyn | matadon: a long time ago it was a real index todevices and the device nodes were stored on rust on spinning platters |
| 04:53.28 | Hoxzer | uptownben: do you have etch packages installed ? |
| 04:53.33 | nevyn | this is no more |
| 04:53.47 | jedir0x | heh: http://www.opendonor.org/?action=show&id=17731 |
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| 04:54.16 | JeffH | anyone know the package name for Apache2 mod_rewrite? |
| 04:54.26 | uptownben | If I do I didn't do it on purpose, it was probably a result of that sources.list confusion/problem. |
| 04:54.32 | jedir0x | JeffH: I think it's built in |
| 04:54.39 | matadon | nevyn: Heh. |
| 04:54.45 | uptownben | Hoxzer:If I do I didn't do it on purpose, it was probably a result of that sources.list confusion/problem. |
| 04:54.47 | jedir0x | JeffH: but for things like that, i do: apt-cache search apache2 | grep rewrite |
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| 04:54.52 | JeffH | jedir0x: thanks.. I'll look for it in the config file. |
| 04:55.16 | jedir0x | JeffH: ls -la /etc/apache2/mods-available/ and ls -la /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ (symlinks to available) |
| 04:55.32 | uptownben | I believe those packages.. libxrandr2, etc. are etch packages, my system is a sarge system. |
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| 04:56.11 | metbsd | how do i reconfig a package |
| 04:56.26 | jedir0x | dpkg-reconfigure package |
| 04:56.40 | metbsd | i keep typing dpkg --reconfigure |
| 04:56.54 | metbsd | why the hell wouldn't they make it all together |
| 04:57.03 | metbsd | like configure, reconfigure, install |
| 04:57.10 | JeffH | jedir0x: got it.. thanks. |
| 04:57.14 | metbsd | fcking debian weirdo |
| 04:57.32 | jedir0x | lol |
| 04:58.13 | jedir0x | it's all perl moduls anyway |
| 04:58.43 | jedir0x | brian@master-chief:~$ file /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure |
| 04:58.52 | metbsd | dpkg-deb dpkg-preconfigure dpkg-reconfigure dpkg-statoverride |
| 04:58.52 | metbsd | dpkg-divert dpkg-query dpkg-split |
| 04:58.59 | jedir0x | regis1: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: perl script text executable |
| 04:59.00 | metbsd | why not make them inside dpkg |
| 04:59.39 | jedir0x | dpkg --configure |
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| 05:01.06 | thirst | do we have a wiki or something of known problems when we do an upgrade on lenny. Earlier I remember apt-get itself showing me relevant bugs and asking me whether to proceed or not. |
| 05:01.18 | jedir0x | what's the chan rules on cussing? |
| 05:01.24 | jedir0x | not allowed? |
| 05:01.37 | jedir0x | or should I just drop an F-bomb and wait for a repromanding from an op? |
| 05:01.49 | sarefo | hi, is there an easy way to change the available screen resolution in X under etch? i forgot the right one when configuring debian in the first place. |
| 05:01.57 | JeffH | how do I find out what apache2 modules are enabled? |
| 05:02.08 | jedir0x | JeffH do you know what a symbolic link is? |
| 05:02.08 | sarefo | working under kde, if that helps |
| 05:02.18 | JeffH | yes |
| 05:02.23 | jedir0x | JeffH: it's a pointer to another file... kind of like ana lias |
| 05:02.24 | jedir0x | ok |
| 05:02.49 | jedir0x | JeffH: /etc/apache2/mods-available/ is a list of aavailabl modules... /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ are symlinks to the -available directory |
| 05:02.59 | jedir0x | anything in mods-enabled/ is enabled |
| 05:03.25 | JeffH | thanks. |
| 05:03.47 | jedir0x | np |
| 05:03.57 | jedir0x | JeffH: same as sites-available and sites-enabled |
| 05:04.09 | jedir0x | i love OpenLDAP... it's fun |
| 05:04.22 | JeffH | gotcha.. thanks.. rewrite seems to be enabled but gallery2 doesn't seem to see it. |
| 05:04.36 | jedir0x | you need to turn it on |
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| 05:04.42 | jedir0x | RewriteEngine on |
| 05:04.45 | jedir0x | or something like that |
| 05:04.56 | jedir0x | you'll have to look that one up :) |
| 05:05.07 | Kobaz | with lvm... if i just did an vgextend and lvextend, but didn't expand the filesystem... can i safely do an lvreduce back to the original size... nothing is using the new allocation since the fs was never extended |
| 05:05.48 | jedir0x | I've never used LVM, only hardware RAID... it's nice an easy that way. |
| 05:05.54 | jedir0x | always wanted to try it though. |
| 05:06.07 | Kobaz | lvm isn't raid |
| 05:06.22 | jedir0x | logical volume manager, right? for striping disks? |
| 05:06.23 | Maliuta | lvm ontop of raid is good |
| 05:06.27 | Kobaz | is quite sexy |
| 05:06.36 | Kobaz | yeah i have lvm on top of raid1 |
| 05:06.41 | jedir0x | cool |
| 05:06.48 | Maliuta | get the striping from raid and more flexibility in partitioning through lvm |
| 05:06.56 | jedir0x | :) |
| 05:07.00 | Kobaz | now the question is |
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| 05:07.04 | Kobaz | i need to move data off a drive |
| 05:07.10 | jedir0x | heh |
| 05:07.17 | Kobaz | apparently i wasn't supposed to extend the lvm onto the new drive just yet |
| 05:07.45 | jedir0x | oh, wow... this is cool... would have cam in handy |
| 05:07.48 | uptownben | come on guys, somebody has to be able to help me with this package problem :( |
| 05:07.56 | jedir0x | uptownben what's going on |
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| 05:08.56 | jedir0x | uptownben: you'll have to repeat anything you just said |
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| 05:10.04 | uptownben | I've been bangin my head against the wall because I can do any package management because of a stupid sources.list problem (not completely my fault). |
| 05:10.29 | jedir0x | uptownben: what's in your sources.list |
| 05:10.30 | Kobaz | sure sure, blame someone else |
| 05:11.51 | uptownben | My sources.list was pointing to STABLE (by default after install), but after etch went stable the wrong packages were downloaded by apt and screwed up my system |
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| 05:12.50 | uptownben | now I have about 6 packages that I can't install/remove or change and I can't do any package management because of them. |
| 05:13.04 | Kobaz | tried dpkg --purge |
| 05:13.04 | Kobaz | ? |
| 05:13.18 | jedir0x | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:13.24 | Kobaz | that too |
| 05:13.27 | uptownben | right now my souurces.list is pointing to SARGE.. I will try anything you suggest. |
| 05:13.45 | Kobaz | apt-get -f install |
| 05:13.47 | uptownben | I'll try dpkg --purge now |
| 05:13.51 | Kobaz | well |
| 05:14.02 | Kobaz | purge the packages that are screwing things up (if they are non-essential) |
| 05:14.07 | jedir0x | uptownben: point to "testing" (i run testing on production machines without problems) |
| 05:14.09 | Kobaz | beware, that it will delete data/config files too |
| 05:14.11 | jedir0x | then... |
| 05:14.14 | Kobaz | for those packages |
| 05:14.26 | jedir0x | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 05:14.43 | Kobaz | uptownben: try update/upgrade first ^ |
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| 05:15.40 | MolePrince | Hello. When I try to run a dist-upgrade in lenny to 2.6.21-2-686 I get an error saying: yaird error: unrecognized line in /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= (fatal) What might be causing this please? |
| 05:16.05 | jedir0x | uptownben: http://pastebin.com/m46a0e339 |
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| 05:19.12 | JeffH | jedir0x: do I add the 'RewriteEngine on' anywhere in apache2.conf? |
| 05:19.38 | jedir0x | JeffH: <Directory /> but i'm not sure if that's the correct syntax, look it up (google is your master/friend) |
| 05:19.57 | uptownben | This is what I get when I tried the --purge: http://pastebin.ca/632805 |
| 05:20.06 | jedir0x | don't do purge |
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| 05:20.11 | jedir0x | put in what i gave to you for sources.list |
| 05:20.21 | jedir0x | then do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 05:21.05 | Kobaz | uptownben: i said try update/upgrade first... then go monkeying with packages |
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| 05:22.59 | uptownben | jedir0x: so at this point I have no choice but to upgrade to etch? (isnt that kind of micro$oft -ish?) |
| 05:23.19 | Mitchbbaker | hello i am having trouble installing software what are in .tar.gz the install says to run config but when i do it complains about my c++/c compiler though i have gcc installed |
| 05:23.39 | liable | bleh, i thought volatile was supposed to keep things up to date. my clamav has been bitching at me for a week now |
| 05:23.39 | jedir0x | uptownben: no... you can change it from "stable" to "sarge" and stay with sarge |
| 05:23.40 | Kobaz | uptownben: going up is easy, going down is not. although it is possible |
| 05:24.01 | P_Kable | How can I break a previous bridge please ? I have to apply a new bridge but I get this message: device eth0 is already a member of a bridge; can't enslave it to bridge br0 |
| 05:24.23 | jedir0x | but dude, "testing" is seriously a good way to go |
| 05:24.32 | uptownben | my sources.list point so SARGE now. |
| 05:24.44 | jedir0x | oh, wait |
| 05:24.48 | jedir0x | but you were in "stable" |
| 05:24.54 | jedir0x | see, so you're like in a weird place |
| 05:25.00 | Kobaz | P_Kable: brctl delif br0 |
| 05:25.11 | P_Kable | thanks A LOT |
| 05:25.15 | jedir0x | uptownben: what's the problem with going to etch? |
| 05:25.54 | jedir0x | ok, i'm off to play wow |
| 05:26.05 | enouf | DragonD: so .. system still locking up? |
| 05:26.07 | jedir0x | need to beat up on some night elves, and be an uber nerd/geek |
| 05:26.20 | jedir0x | uptownben: go the testing route, and do what i said... you'll be glad you did. |
| 05:26.37 | cafuego | uptownben: ... except on a production machine. |
| 05:26.47 | uptownben | My sources.list WAS set to stable, when I saw that it was installing ETCH packages I stopped the apt-get upgrade process, but it had already begun installing. I then modified my sources.list so it points to SARGE. |
| 05:26.56 | cafuego | uptownben: .. mine happily runs sarge and will continue doing so for a while yet. |
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| 05:27.34 | uptownben | now I have libxt6 which I can't remove or install.. ?? |
| 05:27.55 | cafuego | uptownben: You should be able to install the sarge version explicitly |
| 05:28.26 | cafuego | apt-get install libxt6=4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge3 |
| 05:28.48 | JeffH | ugg.. no matter where I put RewriteEngine on it doesn't seem to take. |
| 05:29.19 | Mitchbbaker | http://pastebin.com/m1967b606 here is an example |
| 05:29.28 | Mitchbbaker | though the error can be different |
| 05:29.46 | enouf | (as i stated earlier) uptownben: change sources.list to "stable" and aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade (hunt for the simulation option, and try the 1st maybe) |
| 05:30.12 | enouf | s/try that 1st/ |
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| 05:33.31 | Mitchbbaker | growly could you help http://pastebin.com/m1967b606 thats my problem |
| 05:34.04 | Mitchbbaker | it happens with all .tar.gz that i have tried though it usually complains about a compiler in general |
| 05:34.08 | Mitchbbaker | not that particular one |
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| 05:36.19 | bricecubed | test |
| 05:36.23 | Mitchbbaker | hello |
| 05:36.36 | Mitchbbaker | maybe you can help noone else will respond |
| 05:36.46 | Mitchbbaker | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:37.06 | Mitchbbaker | an error similar to that pops up when i try to install |
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| 05:37.22 | niru | hi all |
| 05:37.27 | Mitchbbaker | hello |
| 05:37.29 | niru | I have an ntfs partition |
| 05:37.41 | niru | from debian /mnt folder |
| 05:37.52 | niru | I am able to see the correct label |
| 05:38.04 | JeffH | I just put 'RewriteEngine on' in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default in the <Directory> section.. yet rewrite doesn't seem to work... anyone know what I'm missing? |
| 05:38.08 | niru | but on desktop I am not able to see the name for ntfs properly |
| 05:38.36 | niru | JeffH, any idea |
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| 05:39.08 | nevyn | Mitchbbaker: you need to install libqt4-dev |
| 05:39.12 | uptownben | Well.. apparently I will not need to bother anyone anymore regarding my package problems because I just BROKE my machine :( I guess one of my purges did the trick)... |
| 05:39.12 | enouf | Mitchbbaker: you should be using debian prepackaged binaries |
| 05:39.17 | Kobaz | JeffH: could be anything... but, make sure your putting it where you are going to be using it |
| 05:39.27 | enouf | niru: just wipe the ntfs , all better ;-) |
| 05:39.31 | Mitchbbaker | enouf: that doesn't work either |
| 05:39.42 | Mitchbbaker | it just complains about dependancys |
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| 05:39.54 | enouf | Mitchbbaker: that's not informative |
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| 05:40.01 | Kobaz | JeffH: you will only be able to use the rewriting in that particular directory |
| 05:40.12 | Mitchbbaker | ok i will redownload the package and pastebin it |
| 05:40.15 | Kobaz | JeffH: assuming you have the rewrite module loaded... check the error log |
| 05:40.31 | nevyn | Mitchbbaker: wow wow wow.. your downloading by hand? |
| 05:40.37 | niru | any body here |
| 05:40.40 | JeffH | Kobaz: I added it to the <Directory /var/www> section.. which is the area I want it used. |
| 05:40.42 | nevyn | s/wow/woah/g |
| 05:40.49 | Mitchbbaker | yes this isn't in apt-get |
| 05:40.58 | Dewi | niru: Irssi: #debian: Total of 710 nicks |
| 05:41.04 | nevyn | niru: no |
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| 05:41.05 | Dewi | yeah a handful of people |
| 05:41.07 | enouf | Mitchbbaker: could you be more vague? |
| 05:41.10 | Mitchbbaker | not that i could see but i will try it again |
| 05:41.22 | nevyn | Mitchbbaker: lastfm is in my packagelists |
| 05:41.29 | Dewi | enouf: be careful what you ask for |
| 05:41.36 | enouf | Dewi: heh .. |
| 05:41.37 | Mitchbbaker | 'oh yeah i remember it was there but the program just crashed every time |
| 05:41.44 | nevyn | but you may not be using the version of debian I am |
| 05:41.45 | Mitchbbaker | probably not |
| 05:41.57 | Mitchbbaker | as i have explained i am new to linux |
| 05:42.01 | enouf | niru: define "properly" |
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| 05:42.06 | nevyn | Mitchbbaker: which one there's like 8 lastfm players I see |
| 05:42.15 | Mitchbbaker | lastfm |
| 05:42.22 | Mitchbbaker | the "official" one |
| 05:42.30 | nevyn | hrm |
| 05:42.37 | nevyn | did you trun an unofficial one. |
| 05:42.44 | Mitchbbaker | yes |
| 05:42.50 | nevyn | "official" code tends to be kinda crap. |
| 05:42.54 | Mitchbbaker | it didn't get as far |
| 05:43.04 | nevyn | ok |
| 05:43.06 | Mitchbbaker | it was worse couldn't even find a channel |
| 05:43.17 | nevyn | meh |
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| 05:43.45 | nevyn | ok |
| 05:43.46 | niru | enouf, I have a ntfs partition |
| 05:43.58 | nevyn | Mitchbbaker: so what's your plan of attack now? |
| 05:44.09 | Mitchbbaker | dunno thats why i came here |
| 05:44.14 | niru | through linux partition I am able to see that partition getting mounted and the label in /mnt shows proper |
| 05:44.36 | niru | The sable partiton on the Desktop does not show proper label |
| 05:44.48 | niru | how can I change the label on desktop for ntfs partition |
| 05:45.12 | Mitchbbaker | when i try apt-get install -f it removes lastfm |
| 05:45.13 | nevyn | Mitchbbaker: so you were attempting to build from source the official client? |
| 05:45.22 | enouf | niru: kde ? |
| 05:45.24 | Mitchbbaker | i think so |
| 05:45.29 | nevyn | and you need libqt4-dev installed to do that (that package contains qmake |
| 05:45.30 | niru | enouf, no gnome |
| 05:45.35 | Mitchbbaker | i run sh ./configure |
| 05:45.41 | Mitchbbaker | and it fails |
| 05:45.45 | nevyn | yeah I know I read the pastebin |
| 05:45.46 | enouf | niru: don't know, maybe gnome-volume-manager ? |
| 05:45.53 | nevyn | you need to install the qt dev stuff |
| 05:46.04 | nevyn | cause you don't have qmake |
| 05:46.04 | Mitchbbaker | nevyn: ill do that now |
| 05:46.14 | niru | enouf, is it gnome-volume manager or mountall |
| 05:46.30 | Mitchbbaker | installing |
| 05:46.31 | enouf | niru: right click it and rename it? .. you sure your entries in /etc/blkid.tab and /dev/disk/by-label read correctly? |
| 05:46.34 | nevyn | Mitchbbaker: I do think this is a bad idea btw but it's your system. |
| 05:46.48 | Mitchbbaker | why a bad idea? |
| 05:47.00 | nevyn | did you try amerok? it's kinda nice |
| 05:47.30 | Mitchbbaker | i know practiacally nothing about linux so yeah...... |
| 05:47.43 | nevyn | Mitchbbaker: the value in debian is maintainability upgradeability.. if you start installing stuff willy nilly from source you risk compramising that |
| 05:48.26 | Mitchbbaker | oh ok |
| 05:48.39 | Mitchbbaker | well this is the only thing i am installing from source so far |
| 05:48.39 | enouf | niru: i don't use gnome, so i don't know - i think there's an irc.gnome.org or simialr |
| 05:48.47 | Mitchbbaker | all the others faild so i gave up |
| 05:49.05 | nevyn | did you try amarok? |
| 05:49.12 | Mitchbbaker | *failed |
| 05:49.13 | nevyn | it seems pretty good |
| 05:50.29 | Supaplex | JeffH: if you're still having issues with mod rewrite, consider rewritelog |
| 05:50.51 | JeffH | Supaplex: what's that? |
| 05:51.01 | enouf | niru: also try udevinfo -q all -p /sys/block/sda/sda1 (for ex) |
| 05:51.29 | Supaplex | JeffH: take a guess |
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| 05:53.41 | nevyn | so last.fm is just a social networking thing you can't actually get songs off it right? |
| 05:53.47 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 05:54.29 | JeffH | Supaplex: The log file gets created, but nothing is logged |
| 05:54.52 | Supaplex | you'll need rwriteloglevel 5 or something to. |
| 05:54.59 | Supaplex | er rewriteloglevel |
| 05:56.18 | kintaro0e | hi guys..i have a config file and i want to change all web.html ---> web.war, how can i do it? do i use a bash scripting? |
| 05:56.48 | enouf | nevyn: i went to last.fm once, all i saw were 30 sec clips |
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| 05:57.29 | sep | kintaro0e, if it's just 1 config file i usualy do something like that in vi eg :%s/search/replace/g |
| 05:59.01 | JeffH | Supaplex: that worked.. thanks.. didn't reveal anyproblems that I can see. |
| 05:59.47 | Supaplex | it'll help you trace rewrite requests. |
| 06:00.04 | kintaro0e | sep: so many words that i'll change |
| 06:00.07 | Supaplex | where are your rewrite entries? .htaccess? server/vhost config? |
| 06:00.08 | kintaro0e | sep: for example |
| 06:00.55 | kintaro0e | if inside the config file, a word: abc.e should be change to acb.f, i dont want to manually edit the file and change all of it..how can i automate it |
| 06:03.41 | nevyn | kintaro0e: sounds like a job for sed |
| 06:04.00 | kintaro0e | nevyn: ah..i see |
| 06:04.01 | kintaro0e | tnx |
| 06:04.25 | nevyn | cat originalfile|sed -e 's/abc\.e/abc\.f/g' > newfile |
| 06:04.49 | nevyn | remove the /g if you only want to replace the first occurance on a line |
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| 06:05.06 | nevyn | use a different seperator if you're dealing with filenames and paths |
| 06:05.40 | nevyn | gtg.... |
| 06:05.44 | JeffH | hmm.. getting FAIL_NO_REWRITE |
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| 06:07.22 | Dewi | md5sum is a bit... featureless |
| 06:07.29 | uptownben | OK.. So my system didn't break.. |
| 06:07.36 | Dewi | for example how would I see extra files not mentioned in my digest file? |
| 06:08.00 | Dewi | I can't think of any way to mix in other textutils to accomplish this |
| 06:08.02 | uptownben | Can someone remind me what that upgrade command sequence was? |
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| 06:10.06 | uptownben | This is the error I am getting now: dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `libxt6' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
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| 06:12.19 | JeffH | well crap.. guess I'll figure this out tomorrow when someone here might be able to help me. |
| 06:12.51 | chowmeined | so, i made a patch for ipsec-tools so it works on sparc.. but i dunno if i should submit it |
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| 06:14.13 | uptownben | I can't remove or install package libxt6.. anyone heard of that problem? |
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| 06:17.29 | uptownben | Anyone have any apt,aptitude, dpkg experience? |
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| 06:21.37 | nvz | uptownben: no way, we all compiled our debian from scratch |
| 06:22.05 | Mitchbbaker | arggh oh screw it i give up |
| 06:22.20 | nvz | uptownben: what happens when you apt-get install libxt6 or --reinstall install |
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| 06:22.26 | Agiofws | hi |
| 06:22.28 | Agiofws | is anyone using bitlbee with xchat ? |
| 06:23.00 | nvz | Agiofws: you are? |
| 06:23.02 | wad | When I do "cat /proc/partitions" I see sda and sda1. I'd like to mkfs on sda1, but it doesn't exist in /dev/sda1. I used fdisk to create the sda1 partition in the first place. What step am I missing? |
| 06:23.07 | Agiofws | nvz, i am |
| 06:23.18 | nvz | congratulations |
| 06:23.29 | Agiofws | but i can't get xchat to identify automatically whenever i turn it ON |
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| 06:23.42 | Agiofws | it says incorrect password |
| 06:24.27 | nvz | wad: what happens when you do mkfs /dev/sda1 ? |
| 06:24.49 | wad | It says it can't find /dev/sda1 |
| 06:25.05 | wad | When I tried it on /dev/sda, it warned me that this was the whole device, not just a partition on it. |
| 06:25.14 | wad | I had the option to go ahead, but I declined. :) |
| 06:25.56 | wad | (debian etch, very recent install, updated kernel to latest stable, this is a SATA 1.5 drive) |
| 06:27.00 | nvz | wad: are you booted to debian or running off an install cd? |
| 06:27.12 | sep | wad, it's just missing you can mknod /dev/sda1 yourself. or you can restart whatever it is that's automagically filling in your /dev. |
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| 06:27.48 | sep | wad, i'v not been able to keep track of all the changes in how /dev is populated... /me is kinda oldschool |
| 06:28.27 | sep | i dont see the problem of having 1500 non existant files in /dev :) |
| 06:28.48 | markybob | sep: there a couple of years there where things were pretty shaky...things seem to have stabilized with udev, though :) |
| 06:29.04 | nvz | sep: they exist they just arent connected to anything |
| 06:29.18 | sep | nvz, that's what i meant. :) |
| 06:29.27 | markybob | i'm just glade devfs was as short-lived as it was. |
| 06:29.40 | Dewi | anyone got any suggestions - how can I verify an MD5 digest file and list any extra files/directories not covered by the digest? |
| 06:29.47 | sep | markybob, would a restart of udev help him ? |
| 06:30.07 | Dewi | or any other approach that will allow me to do similar - check to see exactly how a directory structure differs from a master version |
| 06:30.08 | markybob | sep: i just got in here, i honestly dont know what his problem is. |
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| 06:30.43 | sep | markybob, created a partition on a drive, didnt get the partitions /dev/sda1 device file |
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| 06:30.53 | rissy | is there a way to remove underline from gnome-terminal text? |
| 06:31.24 | markybob | sep: how did he create it? did he specify partition type? primary partition or not? |
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| 06:31.39 | sep | wad, answer the man :) |
| 06:32.29 | jetscreamer | edit the current profile or so |
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| 06:32.33 | jetscreamer | rissy |
| 06:32.54 | rissy | there isn't the option for underline'ed text in there |
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| 06:33.28 | jetscreamer | edit current profile and choose the font? |
| 06:33.30 | uptownben | nvz: This what I get back from apt-get install libxt6 : http://pastebin.ca/632826 |
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| 06:33.58 | RyanWi | I'm sick to death of my scsi card using the aic7xxx driver, I want to purchase another scsi card to run my external LTO-2 drive, what do you recommend? |
| 06:34.08 | nvz | so which setting do I use to tunnel ftp through ssh to the debian server with putty local, remote, or dynamic? |
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| 06:35.10 | markybob | uptownben: you need to upgrade. libdps1 hasnt been in debian since oldstable |
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| 06:36.32 | markybob | uptownben: is upgrading to etch an option? |
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| 06:37.23 | markybob | jetscreamer: i'll never understand that. even back in the days of stormix, i never understood why people didnt run debian proper |
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| 06:37.30 | markybob | dondelelcaro: been a while. hey :) |
| 06:37.38 | jetscreamer | zomg |
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| 06:37.49 | jetscreamer | guerin got banned? |
| 06:38.09 | jetscreamer | or was it an imposter person |
| 06:38.25 | uptownben | markybob: I guess I don't mind upgrading, as long as my hylafax will continue to work. |
| 06:38.35 | markybob | interesting. i guess that means i have no competition anymore for the highest number of curses in #debian :-D |
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| 06:38.54 | markybob | uptownben: it will. upgrade and you should be fine. please read the release notes, though. |
| 06:39.12 | wad | Oops, there was traffic here. |
| 06:39.16 | wad | Sorry, I got side-tracked. |
| 06:39.51 | wad | I'm booted to debian, running of /dev/sdb1 (BIOS lets me define which drive to boot) |
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| 06:40.07 | markybob | wad: which version? |
| 06:40.12 | DragonD | is there a command line base64 en/decoder? |
| 06:40.23 | wad | Of debian? |
| 06:40.26 | jetscreamer | guess that would be ubuntu |
| 06:40.28 | wad | The latest etch. |
| 06:40.30 | wad | :) |
| 06:40.32 | markybob | DragonD: man base64 |
| 06:40.35 | jetscreamer | DragonD: you mean like mencoder? |
| 06:40.39 | nvz | I guess the more important question I am wondering is once I open ssh to a remote server and am forwarding port 21 what do I type on my local ftp client the regular server address and it will use the tunnel? |
| 06:40.52 | jetscreamer | or math |
| 06:40.57 | DragonD | jetscreamer: isn't mencoder for video and audio? |
| 06:41.13 | markybob | DragonD: yes, totally unrelated :) |
| 06:41.13 | nvz | this isnt going to work |
| 06:41.15 | uptownben | How can I upgrade when I can't even update a package? don't I have to resolve the package problems first? |
| 06:41.15 | DragonD | markybob: No manual entry for base64 |
| 06:41.21 | jetscreamer | yes.. it encodes and decodes those |
| 06:41.31 | jetscreamer | okie math |
| 06:41.34 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 06:41.56 | markybob | DragonD: so how about using perl? there you've got libmime-base32-perl |
| 06:42.02 | sep | nvz, ftp usualy uses more then 1 port. i think it would be easier to use ssh -D portnr and use 127.0.0.1:portnr as your ftp programs proxy. (or just use sftp or scp) |
| 06:42.13 | markybob | uptownben: no, you dont |
| 06:42.17 | markybob | !sarge->etch |
| 06:42.17 | dpkg | sarge->etch is read the etch release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes ; the recommended upgrade procedure for sarge->etch is no longer as simple as running "aptitude dist-upgrade", please follow the prodedure in the <release notes>. also ask me about <security> |
| 06:42.23 | DragonD | markybob: i don't know perl |
| 06:42.39 | markybob | DragonD: what do you know? what do you wanna do this in? bash? |
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| 06:44.26 | sep | nvz, if you insist on trying you must tunnel port 21 and 20 use 127.0.0.1 as address. and use passive mode |
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| 06:44.30 | DragonD | markybob: i have found an email in a mailist with an attachment in base64 and i want to decode it. i figured i'd crate a file with it and use base64 command but no base64 command |
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| 06:44.43 | wad | I'm trying to construct a mknode command. Where do I find the device number for the partition on sda? |
| 06:44.56 | sep | wad, ls -l /dev/sda |
| 06:45.04 | sep | wad +1 on the minor number |
| 06:45.13 | nvz | sep: its a dumb idea anyhow.. what I am stuck with is that all the decent web development tools I could find use ftp and I want to use sftp and be able to publish directly so I don't have to explain other shit |
| 06:45.13 | markybob | DragonD: for that, perl really is your best choice. here's a very simple example of how to do it http://www.osix.net/modules/article/?id=80 |
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| 06:45.49 | nvz | sep: winscp does a sync but I got an issue with the router closing connections after 5 min of inactivity |
| 06:45.59 | wad | So, I've got a drive (sda), and I created a partition (sda1 shows up in /proc/partitions), but I have no /dev/sda1, so I can't run mkfs on it. |
| 06:46.26 | wad | I'm somewhat startled that I need to use the mknode command here... what normally creates the entries in /dev ? |
| 06:46.31 | markybob | wad: how'd you create it? did you assign it a partition type? |
| 06:46.39 | sep | wad, udev. the thing you should try to restart. |
| 06:46.41 | wad | I used fdisk to create it. |
| 06:46.48 | wad | I made it a primary partition. |
| 06:46.51 | markybob | wad: do you have x on the machine? |
| 06:46.55 | wad | (I rebooted already) |
| 06:46.57 | wad | (no x) |
| 06:47.20 | wad | (this is an extremely simple install, all it has is debian etch and samba. Simple file server.) |
| 06:48.20 | wad | I did this already too: /etc/init.d/udev restart |
| 06:48.21 | jetscreamer | apt-get remove --purge udev and the problem will go away. it may create some more, might not. |
| 06:48.33 | wad | Okay. |
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| 06:48.45 | jetscreamer | like you need yaird and gamin |
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| 06:49.01 | jetscreamer | befrore reomove ing udev |
| 06:49.28 | wad | I'm scared to remove udev. It said it wants to remove some important looking things along with it: |
| 06:49.29 | uptownben | I basically need to update my sources.list, then apt-get install aptitude then use aptitude to do a dist-upgrade... correct? |
| 06:49.37 | wad | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 06:49.37 | wad | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.45 | markybob | yeah, that's not good :) |
| 06:49.54 | wad | I declined the removal. :) |
| 06:50.06 | sep | wad, that's why he said that you need to replace initramfs-tools with yaird before removing udev :) |
| 06:50.13 | wad | Ah. |
| 06:50.28 | wad | So... we think that udev is the bad boy here? |
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| 06:50.37 | wad | What did I do to annoy it, I wonder? |
| 06:50.50 | jetscreamer | you see |
| 06:50.56 | jetscreamer | that's why you need yaird |
| 06:51.00 | jetscreamer | first |
| 06:51.18 | wad | Ok |
| 06:51.23 | jetscreamer | yaird doesn't depend on udev like initramfs |
| 06:51.34 | jetscreamer | same for gamin and .. fam? |
| 06:51.41 | jetscreamer | gamin and something |
| 06:51.42 | wad | Installed yaird. |
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| 06:51.51 | jetscreamer | gamin good, other bad, with udev |
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| 06:51.56 | smica | re |
| 06:52.00 | wad | and gamin |
| 06:52.04 | wad | :) |
| 06:52.14 | jetscreamer | w/o udev rather |
| 06:52.21 | wad | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 06:52.21 | wad | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.32 | wad | That's okay, now, right? (about to remove udev) |
| 06:52.49 | jetscreamer | wait |
| 06:52.49 | sep | should be |
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| 06:53.43 | jetscreamer | i'm not sure your device nodes will get created when you reboot... i 'think' they will, but once they didn't, for me... or something wasn't... i 'think' it worked anyway though |
| 06:53.53 | wad | ok |
| 06:53.58 | wad | So, my mileage may vary? |
| 06:54.06 | jetscreamer | a way to test might be |
| 06:54.35 | jetscreamer | instead of removing udev, disable it ... |
| 06:54.40 | wad | Ah |
| 06:54.51 | jetscreamer | or you could install it again, assuming you actually 'could' install it again |
| 06:55.18 | wad | It doesn't matter. |
| 06:55.24 | wad | There is nothing on this box that I need to preserve. |
| 06:55.29 | jetscreamer | iirc it will just work though |
| 06:55.30 | wad | Just setting up a file server for home use. |
| 06:55.31 | wad | :) |
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| 06:56.40 | wad | rebooting now |
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| 06:57.37 | markybob | ella ellah eh eh eh |
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| 06:58.28 | dimir | Moin! |
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| 06:59.25 | azeem | Guerin: sorry, I didn't realize you were still +q |
| 06:59.26 | thirst | any place I can find how "make oldconfig" works. I am wondering how it finds my config optios inspite of not having my older .config. does it read it from running kernel ? |
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| 06:59.54 | markybob | thirst: no. it need your older .config. you can generally get it from zcat /proc/config.gz, though |
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| 07:00.25 | jetscreamer | i reads your running config |
| 07:00.28 | jetscreamer | it |
| 07:00.37 | jetscreamer | as in /boot/config/`uname -r` |
| 07:00.44 | jetscreamer | or almost |
| 07:00.50 | JeffH | I'm trying to enable the mod_rewrite module for apache2. I've run 'a2enmod rewrite', have created alice.html and bob.html pages in my document root (/var/www). I've created /var/www/.htaccess and added 'RewriteEngine On' and 'RewriteRule ^alice.html$ bob.html' But when I view alice.html I see alice.html content rather than bob.html content. Anyone know why this might be? |
| 07:00.52 | loxley_ | jetscreamer: it does ? i've always copied mine to the kernel dir |
| 07:00.58 | jetscreamer | yes it does |
| 07:01.02 | uptownben | OK.. I'm not sure I have enough disk space to perform a dist-upgrade. does anyone else have any suggestions to the problem of not being able to remove or install the libxt6 package? |
| 07:01.07 | jetscreamer | same for make menuconfig, for a default |
| 07:01.16 | loxley_ | jetscreamer: oh, ok |
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| 07:01.39 | jetscreamer | dpkg --force-help |
| 07:01.39 | syed_nawaz | Hello |
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| 07:01.58 | thirst | markybob: config.gz is not present in mycase(lenny's 2.6.21-2-686), maybe a kernel option is absent. But "make oldconfig" runs fine and dumps a .config file |
| 07:02.06 | markybob | uptownben: how about enough room for an upgrade, followed by a clean and then a dist-upgrade? |
| 07:02.15 | macogw | anyone know of a repo for e17 for etch? |
| 07:02.21 | jetscreamer | /boot/config-2.6.21-2-686 |
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| 07:02.26 | macogw | or if it's ok to use the sid e17 repo on etch |
| 07:02.32 | jetscreamer | !backport |
| 07:02.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> Beware that if you add backports.org to your sources.list, you will get *all* backports when you upgrade. Read the instructions on how to only get ... |
| 07:02.35 | glombool | How do I set the default Alsa device? |
| 07:03.04 | syed_nawaz | I am using debian etch 4.0 and i have setup a Sound Blaster 5.1, the problem is i am unable to record using "sound Recorder" |
| 07:03.16 | glombool | I'm using etch 4 |
| 07:03.21 | jetscreamer | the mic is off by default if that helps |
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| 07:03.44 | gallus | hi |
| 07:03.45 | jetscreamer | turn it on in the mixer if you didn't |
| 07:03.49 | syed_nawaz | jetscreamer, the mic is not off |
| 07:03.53 | jetscreamer | k |
| 07:04.17 | uptownben | markybob: can't do it. Can't I just force dpkg to install (or think it installed) that package, apparently it is not REALLY upgrading because the version that is installed is the same as the one it's "upgrading' to.. |
| 07:04.36 | syed_nawaz | jetscreamer, any ways to resolve this problem |
| 07:04.46 | markybob | uptownben: you could always find it in /var/cache/apt/archives and dpkg -i --force-all package.deb |
| 07:04.46 | gallus | after the latest update I can't navigate shell history using arrows... is it a known bug? |
| 07:04.48 | jetscreamer | syed_nawaz: that was my only thought |
| 07:04.50 | macogw | uptownben: --force |
| 07:05.10 | jetscreamer | [02.01.47] <jetscreamer> dpkg --force-help |
| 07:05.23 | syed_nawaz | is any one using soud blaster 5.1 for recording the sound |
| 07:05.38 | jetscreamer | i have the same card but have never put a microphone in it |
| 07:05.45 | gallus | this thing happen in my gnome terminal |
| 07:06.15 | syed_nawaz | jetscreamer, i am able to hear the music through that card, using vlc, but i am unable to record the sound |
| 07:06.35 | thirst | i am surprised.. no good doc of "make oldconfig" could be found |
| 07:07.02 | jetscreamer | all it does is ask you about modules/options that are new |
| 07:07.14 | jetscreamer | hit ? to find out the 'help' info |
| 07:07.43 | syed_nawaz | jetscreamer, how can i find if the sound blaster card is configured correctly |
| 07:08.00 | gallus | history command still work but I'm not able to use arrows to move backward or forward on list of latest command |
| 07:08.04 | jetscreamer | if it works it probably is, is all i know |
| 07:08.10 | jetscreamer | mine 'just works' |
| 07:08.16 | jetscreamer | never had a problem |
| 07:08.33 | syed_nawaz | what player do you use |
| 07:08.47 | jetscreamer | xine-ui usually |
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| 07:09.02 | jetscreamer | mencoder for encoding and stuff |
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| 07:11.19 | DragonD | what program can i run to get memory and swap stats? |
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| 07:11.35 | uptownben | oops. |
| 07:11.50 | markybob | DragonD: cat /proc/meminfo ? |
| 07:12.02 | DragonD | markybob: thanks |
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| 07:12.42 | amee2k | how can i switch between the ALT+F# terminals in a shell script? |
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| 07:12.50 | changuito | goodnight, guys.., i did ctrl+c while an archive transfer un minicom and the terminal got its characters weird and with symbols, how can i reset it??i ctrl+c while an archive transfer |
| 07:12.51 | markybob | amee2k: you dont |
| 07:12.56 | amee2k | :( |
| 07:13.04 | markybob | amee2k: what are you really trying to do? |
| 07:14.10 | amee2k | i made my box log in automatically on boot on tty2 because i don't want to clear the boot log on tty1. now i want it to switch to tty2 too so i end up in the logged in session |
| 07:14.35 | user1_ | what version of vmware is it in debian? |
| 07:14.41 | markybob | user1_: none |
| 07:14.44 | jetscreamer | why don't you just type dmesg |
| 07:14.52 | jetscreamer | !dmesg |
| 07:14.52 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dmesg is print or control the kernel ring buffer. /var/log/dmesg gives you the whole thing from boot time. `dmesg' shows you current ring buffer contents. |
| 07:14.56 | sep | user1_, vmware is propritary, dl it from their homepage |
| 07:15.03 | amee2k | how does the ALT+f# hotkey do it? |
| 07:15.11 | user1_ | oh okay thanks |
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| 07:15.18 | gallus | i can complete commands with tab but i'm not able to navigate in command list using arrows, this is what simply doesn't work |
| 07:15.29 | jetscreamer | it's set in inittab |
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| 07:16.20 | wad | Well, after my reboot, eth0 didn't come up. Grr. So I had to crawl in under my stairs, dragging a monitor and keyboard behind me, and up it. |
| 07:16.36 | amee2k | jetscreamer: what if something goes wrong and i don't get to that point? besides it just feels wrong to have the autologin on tty1... |
| 07:16.47 | wad | Then, I still had no /dev/sda1. So I used mknod to build it. mkfs is running now. Seems happy. |
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| 07:17.28 | DjMadness | Hi, i am wondering what utility i could use to monitor bandwidth on different ip's. as in how many GB's a month a given IP address has, does anyone know a tool for this ? |
| 07:18.09 | markybob | DjMadness: bwm-ng ? |
| 07:18.12 | cef | why oh why does the installer not seem to work with USB cdrom/dvdroms? |
| 07:18.12 | amee2k | yeah, its in inittab but how does it do it? is it part of the kernel driver? then i could write a small C app that my script can run. |
| 07:18.20 | uptownben | ok.. should I do a apt-get install --force-yes libxt6 ? |
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| 07:18.45 | markybob | uptownben: no. we said dpkg -i --force-all package.deb |
| 07:18.46 | DjMadness | markybob, thanks, ill give it a try :) |
| 07:18.54 | Dewi | 'find' doesn't seem to support exact matches on filenames |
| 07:19.01 | Dewi | -path uses shell magic |
| 07:19.03 | markybob | Dewi: find / -name 'foo' |
| 07:19.10 | Dewi | markybob: shell magic |
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| 07:19.23 | Dewi | markybob: how can I preprocess a string to avoid running into any shell magic? |
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| 07:19.46 | Dewi | hmm, maybe -exec would be better here |
| 07:19.52 | Dewi | then I can do whatever I want |
| 07:20.50 | uptownben | ah... ok |
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| 07:21.39 | DjMadness | hmm.. does not seam to do the trick.. it was more for monitoring on a monthly basis. I am planing on doing some hosting (not just http), but i have limited traffic pr month, would be nice to be able to know how much traffic a single customer is having a month (each customer will have own ip) |
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| 07:22.06 | gallus | gnome-terminal seems to work if I use ctrl+p |
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| 07:22.31 | markybob | DjMadness: i see. check this out http://www.linux.com/articles/50649 |
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| 07:23.22 | wad | Yay, it works! |
| 07:23.25 | wad | I must sleeeep |
| 07:23.45 | DjMadness | markybob, thanks, thats really more like it :) |
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| 07:23.52 | markybob | DjMadness: np :) |
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| 07:24.32 | Dewi | anyone know of any more powerful alternatives to 'md5sum' ? |
| 07:24.46 | Dewi | being unable to have directories in a digest is annoying |
| 07:24.54 | Dewi | and no built-in sort kind of sucks |
| 07:25.04 | markybob | Dewi: sha1sum ? |
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| 07:25.26 | Dewi | and I'd like to know if there are extras in my directory that aren't described in the digest file |
| 07:25.43 | Dewi | markybob: seems to have exactly the same features |
| 07:25.48 | uptownben | ok.. that worked.. |
| 07:25.49 | markybob | Dewi: something like that you'll have to script yourself |
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| 07:28.00 | zecrazytux | hi |
| 07:28.09 | ErkiDerLoony | Tach! |
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| 07:28.48 | Dewi | markybob: I can't be the first person who wants to be able to check integrity of a filesystem, and not be blind to empty directories... |
| 07:28.48 | Dewi | markybob: I have a half-written perl script to replace ls/find/md5 somewhere. I guess I need to finish it. I just... can't quite believe I never seem to be able to find stuff for comparing directories in linux. Especially directories that aren't on the same machine. |
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| 07:29.01 | aronofsky | hi, is there a tool ( not a GUI ) that permits me to configure several wifi networks and to connect the one that is available when the computer boots up ? |
| 07:29.17 | uptownben | markybob: last error... can't remove libdps1.. |
| 07:29.37 | dondelelcaro | aronofsky: ifupdown will do that |
| 07:29.54 | dondelelcaro | aronofsky: you just add all the wifi networks, and then you can use a mapping script with iwlist scan; to pick the one to use |
| 07:29.56 | uptownben | this is what I get: Removing libdps1 ... |
| 07:29.57 | uptownben | dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: Exec format error |
| 07:29.59 | uptownben | dpkg: error processing libdps1 (--remove): |
| 07:29.59 | dpkg | That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster. |
| 07:30.00 | uptownben | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:30.02 | uptownben | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 07:30.04 | uptownben | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:30.05 | uptownben | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 07:30.09 | markybob | fuck |
| 07:30.20 | dondelelcaro | uptownben: please don't paste here |
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| 07:30.47 | gallus | Do you have the same problem? |
| 07:30.58 | aronofsky | dondelelcaro, any howto about that, its not really clear to me ? |
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| 07:33.25 | uptownben | OK..here is the output: http://pastebin.ca/632851 |
| 07:33.37 | markybob | Dewi: i'm not saying you're the first. i had to write my own script to make packages for debian unstable amd64, debian unstable i386, debian testing i386, debian testing amd64, ubuntu feisty i386, ubuntu feisty amd64 and tarball packages for deluge-torrent. it's not about being the first. i'm sure a lot of people have wanted to cross-compile between all those distros and archs |
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| 07:34.41 | uptownben | I just want to remove a package but I'm getting a wierd error. |
| 07:34.47 | Dewi | markybob: I guess I need to get over my dislike of perl |
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| 07:34.53 | cef | why oh why doesn't the etch installer support installing off USB cdrom/dvdrom drives? *sigh* |
| 07:35.48 | Dewi | markybob: I just hate spending all day writing a script, only to find out later that some obscure built in tool already existed on every system in the bloody world! |
| 07:36.14 | Dewi | markybob: I guess that's the price of being an eternal newb |
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| 07:36.25 | el_mexicano | hi there |
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| 07:36.49 | markybob | Dewi: no such thing. read a couple of books and you'll be salty :) |
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| 07:37.09 | markybob | el_mexicano: nice job on the american cup, btw. |
| 07:38.21 | el_mexicano | someone knows where I can get the real (not the dummy) mysql server 4.1 pakages? I got a Fincancial Software wich can't work with mysql 5 |
| 07:38.23 | Dewi | markybob: I think my head is at maximum capacity... learning new things seems to make other stuff fall out. But I'm getting better at writing everything I learn in a wiki... seems to help a bit |
| 07:39.16 | markybob | el_mexicano: um, install sarge maybe? |
| 07:39.26 | Snover|zzz | el_mexicano, what doesn't work? |
| 07:39.32 | markybob | el_mexicano: not sure if etch has it or not |
| 07:39.39 | el_mexicano | no it's also a dummy |
| 07:39.55 | markybob | el_mexicano: sarge an option? |
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| 07:40.28 | Dewi | el_mexicano: on sarge I needed backports to get mysql 5, so I'm pretty sure it had 4 |
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| 07:40.42 | Snover | el_mexicano, what doesn't work? |
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| 07:41.14 | el_mexicano | i will retry, but yesterday it say mysql-server-4.1 is v.5.00.x |
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| 07:41.36 | markybob | el_mexicano: no way. that's crazy |
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| 07:42.17 | markybob | el_mexicano: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/misc/mysql-server-4.1 |
| 07:42.27 | markybob | el_mexicano: sarge, old stable. that's what you need |
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| 07:42.58 | el_mexicano | thanx I will take a look |
| 07:44.10 | gallus | bye |
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| 07:44.52 | uptownben | Whoooo hoooo.. finally.... successful upgrade with no errors.. thanks all! |
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| 07:50.07 | el_mexicano | markybob it seems to work! with sarge but from a Backport the original was to old |
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| 07:51.09 | markybob | el_mexicano: good :) |
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| 07:58.49 | SoulChild | what's up with lenny, no updates for days.... anything wrong ? |
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| 08:00.34 | markybob | SoulChild: that's an interesting question :) http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/testing_probs.html |
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| 08:02.07 | SoulChild | markybob: what does that mean,... is lenny dying ? |
| 08:02.37 | r00723r0 | i saw this image and was compelled to show #debian |
| 08:02.40 | r00723r0 | i think it's interesting |
| 08:02.43 | r00723r0 | (SFW) |
| 08:02.45 | r00723r0 | http://www.fukung.net/v/3234/Corkscrew%20Missile.jpg |
| 08:03.07 | markybob | SoulChild: no, it just means unstable is going through a lot, which needs to be address before a lot of changes hit testing. check out http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ |
| 08:03.13 | SoulChild | r00723r0: hehe nice |
| 08:03.35 | r00723r0 | someone should make a wallpaper |
| 08:04.02 | zecrazytux | does someone have ever heard about a multi view vnc client (supervision of many computers, for a school for example) ? |
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| 08:04.31 | markybob | remind me not to go to that school |
| 08:04.57 | r00723r0 | zecrazytux: yeah, that's kinda creepy |
| 08:05.13 | markybob | debian, more than any other distro, is about freedom. c'mon, man :) |
| 08:05.33 | r00723r0 | thank god my school uses windows |
| 08:05.34 | r00723r0 | oh wait |
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| 08:06.04 | SoulChild | !smash r00723r0 |
| 08:06.25 | tarzeau | how can i disable xscreensaver modules? |
| 08:07.10 | zecrazytux | r00723r0: that's what my boss ask to me... that's just a way to check that students are working... btw, that's not a way to look at their private informations, we're working on a ltsp like solution, very limited for the clients |
| 08:07.21 | markybob | tarzeau: --disable-foo ? |
| 08:07.30 | r00723r0 | zecrazytux: your boss is evil |
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| 08:07.51 | zecrazytux | and, btw, ur speaking about freedom. let's us use that kind of soft :D |
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| 08:08.05 | r00723r0 | zecrazytux: really, honestly, i would quit |
| 08:08.08 | zecrazytux | r00723r0: that's for very young children |
| 08:08.16 | r00723r0 | right |
| 08:08.20 | r00723r0 | so why would you want to install this? |
| 08:08.40 | zecrazytux | cuz teachers want this |
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| 08:09.38 | r00723r0 | assholes |
| 08:09.53 | zecrazytux | r00723r0: i would agree with you if it was for college or so, or in the company |
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| 08:10.17 | zecrazytux | but that's to look at young children's Gcompris exercices... |
| 08:10.28 | r00723r0 | ahh |
| 08:10.29 | r00723r0 | ok |
| 08:10.34 | r00723r0 | well, that's different now |
| 08:10.41 | zecrazytux | stop speak about "is it good or bad" :D |
| 08:11.12 | zecrazytux | that's not to look at passwords and private mails :D i already told u |
| 08:11.49 | liba_p3ta_0019 | why does my knoppix not play inet tv ? |
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| 08:12.40 | xand | liba_p3ta_0019: this isn't #knoppix |
| 08:13.03 | liba_p3ta_0019 | its also a debian ? |
| 08:13.06 | xand | nope |
| 08:13.10 | xand | !knoppix |
| 08:13.11 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unoffical: https://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-knoppix/ http://debian-knoppix.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 08:13.13 | liba_p3ta_0019 | ok - cu |
| 08:13.39 | zecrazytux | so, r00723r0, can you help me ? |
| 08:13.45 | r00723r0 | zecrazytux: workign on it |
| 08:13.47 | r00723r0 | *working |
| 08:13.52 | zecrazytux | thanks ;) |
| 08:13.56 | liba_p3ta_0019 | i thought you knew it anyway .... |
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| 08:14.17 | faber4 | hi everybody |
| 08:14.32 | faber4 | can i use dhcp and map two mac addresses to the same ip ? |
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| 08:16.23 | r00723r0 | zecrazytux: can't find any, sorry |
| 08:16.44 | dimir | !nickometer r00723r0 |
| 08:16.44 | zecrazytux | thanks to have tried, r00723r0 :) |
| 08:16.45 | dpkg | 'r00723r0' is 99.570% lame, dimir |
| 08:16.49 | dimir | \о/ |
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| 08:17.53 | SlayerXP | good morning, free software weenies |
| 08:18.33 | dimir | Moin SlapperXP. |
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| 08:20.48 | SoulChild | Hey guys,.. if i do a whole backup of my system with "tar" do i need to pack the "/dev"-Folder, or is it generated manually from kernel? |
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| 08:28.31 | SoulChild | Which folder-content do i not need by making a full backup ? |
| 08:28.39 | SoulChild | by=while |
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| 08:28.48 | dimir | SoulChild: in case you have udev - these are generated on the fly. In general you don't need to backup /dev. |
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| 08:29.50 | dimir | I bet you don't need /dev, /sys, /mnt, /proc, /tmp. |
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| 08:30.41 | SoulChild | dimir: thanks, any other folders, that content is generated automaticly |
| 08:31.14 | dimir | Not in standart setup. |
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| 08:31.43 | SoulChild | dimir: what about mnt,sys,proc,lost+found ? |
| 08:31.56 | dimir | you can skip /lost+found too. |
| 08:32.19 | sky_ | hello! i would like to know can i filter this sort of taffic with iptables --> http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:nr7wc063u_cJ:reeves.csc.ncsu.edu/papers-and-other-stuff/2003-10-ccs-ipdwm-paper.pdf+Stepping+Stone+Attack&hl=de&ct=clnk&cd=12&gl=de&client=firefox-a |
| 08:32.45 | sky_ | (whether that be |
| 08:32.45 | sky_ | contacting the source network administrator, filtering the |
| 08:32.45 | sky_ | attacker’s traffic, litigation, or criminal prosecution) |
| 08:33.00 | SoulChild | !tell sky_ about flood |
| 08:33.18 | sky_ | sorry! i only need help from someone |
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| 08:33.22 | Hammar | THAT is considered a flood in here? |
| 08:33.33 | sky_ | sorry! can you help |
| 08:33.47 | sky_ | ? |
| 08:34.42 | dimir | sky_: in general you can't block traffic based on URL in iptables. |
| 08:35.00 | dimir | You can do it based on IP address, for example. |
| 08:35.12 | sky_ | no! i mean trafficm from the stepping stone attack |
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| 08:35.25 | sky_ | as you can read in my url |
| 08:36.12 | dimir | traffic from attack? Or traffic being attack? Or what? |
| 08:36.42 | SoulChild | is there a site with good explaination of all folders in / |
| 08:36.55 | sky_ | i mean fitering the incomeing traffic from the stepping stone attack |
| 08:37.18 | Dewio | oops |
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| 08:39.44 | sky_ | can somebody help? |
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| 08:41.26 | dimir | sky_: perhaps this? http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html |
| 08:41.44 | sky_ | okay! thank you |
| 08:42.19 | aronofsky | Hi , im looking for a wifi card well recognized on debian , can anyone give me advice on what to buy ? |
| 08:42.24 | aronofsky | PCI card |
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| 08:44.58 | aronofsky | I was going for linksys but it seems its not the best ... |
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| 08:46.25 | SoulChild | DAMN! I LOVE DEBIAN!!! |
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| 08:48.52 | MoDaX | !fhs |
| 08:48.52 | dpkg | i guess fhs is Unlike Gobolinux or OS X, Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the debian-policy package |
| 08:48.56 | MoDaX | SoulChild: ^^^^ |
| 08:49.20 | SoulChild | What is the SYS-Folder for ? |
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| 08:50.06 | MoDaX | !sys |
| 08:50.12 | MoDaX | heh |
| 08:51.18 | MoDaX | SoulChild: it's a virtual folder managed by kernel for used by userspace application to get infomation / manage your hardware |
| 08:51.29 | dimir | SoulChild: sysfs stuff |
| 08:51.29 | MoDaX | s/for// |
| 08:51.41 | SoulChild | MoDaX: thank you |
| 08:52.37 | aronofsky | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.01 | SoulChild | aronofsky: Intel 2915 |
| 08:53.38 | aronofsky | SoulChild, PCI card ? |
| 08:54.32 | SoulChild | aronofsky: yes,i have it on my notebook, but must exsist for normal PCI too |
| 08:54.48 | liable | can you even buy pci cards with intel chips? |
| 08:55.25 | aronofsky | SoulChild, seems kinda hard to find, any more common ( easy to find ) cards ? |
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| 08:59.14 | SoulChild | Hey my router can't read my hostname, how to fix ? |
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| 09:00.18 | SlayerXP | SoulChild: teach it to read. |
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| 09:00.48 | SoulChild | SlayerXP: it only reads the WIndows computers hostnames,... hwy ? |
| 09:01.16 | SlayerXP | SoulChild: if you have a debian specific question, please ask it. |
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| 09:02.10 | xlotlu | is there a tool to extract msi files? |
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| 09:03.10 | dimir | SoulChild: ever heard of DNS? |
| 09:03.33 | SoulChild | dimir: sure |
| 09:03.48 | dimir | SoulChild: probably it get's doze boxes names because of WINS. |
| 09:04.02 | SoulChild | so is it fixable ? |
| 09:04.06 | dimir | Or netbios crap. |
| 09:04.17 | SoulChild | can i fix that |
| 09:04.46 | dimir | SoulChild: sure. You just need someone to tell that information. |
| 09:05.14 | SoulChild | dimir: thanks,.. i ll search for a programm |
| 09:06.18 | SoulChild | how to get my mac adress |
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| 09:08.17 | rem | soul -> ifconfig |
| 09:09.07 | SoulChild | rem: thanks |
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| 09:12.56 | Bodorus | hey, i have a debian pc with 2 lan interfaces, eth1 is connected to a router for internet and eth 2 is connected to a winXP pc, i configured a static ip for this connection between debian and winXP, where winxp has ip 192.168.2.2 and subnetmask 255.255.255.0 and getaway 192.168.2.1 which is the ip of my eth2 lan interface in debian, and 2 DNS which i got via "cat /etc/resolv.conf" in debian. Now i can ping between the 2 pc's without problem, so i ran a script |
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| 09:14.52 | liable | i thought i saw a dsa for clamav? but i dont get no upgrade.. |
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| 09:24.33 | qazwsx | how does xen-linux-system-blah-xen-amd64 and xen-linux-system-blah-xen-vserver-amd64 differ? |
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| 09:26.54 | liable | qazwsx: does the info from apt-cache show not say much different? |
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| 09:28.59 | qazwsx | liable: they show the same thing |
| 09:29.06 | qazwsx | (apt-cache info) |
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| 09:30.39 | Bodorus | ok, i figured it out |
| 09:31.00 | liable | qazwsx: i have no idea then. i havent ever used xen, ask again in an hour and maybe someone will know |
| 09:31.01 | Bodorus | (the script wasn't right) |
| 09:31.34 | qazwsx | liable: lol just assumed that I was sutpid and didn't check apt-cache info? |
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| 09:31.53 | liable | qazwsx: erm, yes! |
| 09:31.55 | gallus | Hi |
| 09:32.18 | gallus | I have a problem with key mapping on gnome-terminal of my Debian |
| 09:32.40 | liable | qazwsx: actually, i generally try not to assume too much from people in here that i cant remember seeing before.. |
| 09:33.16 | transient | qazwsx: silly question, but have you checked wikipedia/official xen site for anything about a virtual server or similar? |
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| 09:34.26 | azeem | qazwsx: AFAIK xen and vserver are orthogonal virtualization technologies, so apparently you can run vserver over xen. |
| 09:34.37 | qazwsx | transient: I have not; I've only been googling around |
| 09:34.40 | azeem | qazwsx: if you don't know about both, just assume that you don't need it |
| 09:34.50 | qazwsx | azeem: okay, that's the impression I got too; vserver seems very solaris zone like |
| 09:35.02 | azeem | sort of, yeah, I guess |
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| 09:37.51 | gallus | if i run my gnome-terminal I'm not able to search forward or backward in history using up or down arrow |
| 09:39.53 | gallus | any one of has the same problem? |
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| 09:41.47 | xdr | anyone who know a nice image viewer for xfce? |
| 09:42.31 | Trewas | gallus: yes, many bugs are already filed against libvte9 |
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| 09:43.25 | robboplus | hello folks! is it possible to undelete files in ext3? i just need a couple of them - mostly .txt and .sh |
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| 09:43.36 | robboplus | just did rm * by mistake in wrong dir :( |
| 09:43.38 | gallus | Trewas: so that's a known bug |
| 09:43.50 | Trewas | gallus: and it should be already fixed, but the fixed package is not yet in mirrors |
| 09:45.13 | gallus | Trewas: libvte9 is the problem... of course not in my mirror :) |
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| 09:45.52 | liable | robboplus: nope |
| 09:45.57 | gallus | Trewas: so I need simply to wait |
| 09:45.57 | robboplus | liable ok |
| 09:46.10 | liable | !undelete |
| 09:46.11 | dpkg | i heard undelete is great with Midnight Commander (mc). Just unmount the fs and select "Undelete files" in mc, or doesn't work for journalled filesystems. |
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| 09:46.40 | gallus | Trewas: thank you very very much |
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| 09:48.46 | robboplus | liable yes, thought so... just lost 20+ scripts of mine |
| 09:48.50 | gallus | Trewas: deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ could be this uptodate? |
| 09:48.52 | robboplus | fuckin mysql logs |
| 09:49.01 | robboplus | did ls /var/log/mysql instead of cd /var/log/mysql |
| 09:49.05 | robboplus | and then rm * |
| 09:49.09 | robboplus | i was in /root.... |
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| 09:50.04 | xterm | hello |
| 09:50.20 | xterm | What's the difference betwen postfix and courier? |
| 09:50.28 | Trewas | gallus: dunno, but incoming.debian.org has the package for i386 |
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| 09:50.55 | Trewas | ... not that installing it fixed the up/down keys |
| 09:50.57 | ghatak | Hi, i want to build a package for debian sarge, however i do not want to do it on the box where I am going to deploy it and I do not have a space machine. If i do it in VMWARE or XEN on my personal box, would that work fine ? |
| 09:51.13 | xterm | What's the difference betwen postfix and courier? |
| 09:51.28 | gallus | Trewas: so how can I fix it? |
| 09:52.00 | Trewas | but maybe gnome-terminal is doing something fancy and not load the new libs if there are other gnome-terminals running |
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| 09:52.47 | gallus | Trewas: now I need to use PgUp and PgDown |
| 09:52.56 | Trewas | gallus: easiest to wait a bit, and use ctrl-p / ctrl-n instead of the up/down keys for now |
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| 09:53.53 | gallus | Trewas: Ok ... I have also tried to map up and down arrow in inputrc but it dosen't work |
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| 09:53.54 | rem_ | install script requires lsb 1.3 - checks for /lib/ld-lsb...which doesn't exist |
| 09:55.20 | rem_ | the script expects lsb_release --short --version to respond with :core-3.0.....but actually responds with "No LSB modules available |
| 09:55.38 | rem_ | its an old script...c.2003/4 |
| 09:56.24 | rem_ | so what happened to /lib/ld-lsb...? |
| 09:57.34 | Gnea | rem_: what install script? |
| 09:59.52 | gallus | Trewas: solved :D |
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| 10:00.33 | gallus | Trewas: may I explain how I did it? (may it be usefull |
| 10:01.05 | Trewas | gallus: sure |
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| 10:02.18 | rem_ | Gnea:sorry..have to shoot off for 10mins |
| 10:02.22 | rem_ | brb |
| 10:02.47 | danf_1979 | Hi, I've just read that /sys is kind of a replacement for /dev. In that case, should I exclude /sys from an rdiff backup? |
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| 10:03.30 | unsolo_ | debian amd64 works well on pentium D series right |
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| 10:04.53 | gallus | Trewas: I have found how to map correctly up arrow and down arrow |
| 10:05.06 | user1_ | what are fun console apps? |
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| 10:05.59 | petemc | moonbuggy |
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| 10:06.43 | gallus | Trewas: # alternate mappings for "up arrow" and "down arrow" to search the history |
| 10:06.43 | gallus | "\e[1;A": history-search-backward |
| 10:06.43 | gallus | "\e[1;B": history-search-forward |
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| 10:07.56 | gallus | adding these line to / etc / inputrc works |
| 10:08.16 | gallus | thank you boys |
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| 10:09.20 | Trewas | gallus: ah, that kind of fix :) you'll probably need to change it back once the fixed libvte9 is released |
| 10:09.42 | Slap_Stick | hey i was wondering if someone could help in here - not really the right place but you guys tend to know a lot. In exim if i wanted to block apache@hostname.com from sending when a script is called and exim is called, how would i do it - as even though the exim.conf gets read for the spool - i think it just adds it to the queue the acl_smtp_mail i have isn't working as it's not actually running as an smtp server, exim just gets cal |
| 10:09.42 | Slap_Stick | led with parameters from the php.ini file so i'm a bit confused how i would do it |
| 10:10.28 | petemc | Slap_Stick: theres a acl for non smtp |
| 10:10.35 | Slap_Stick | oh |
| 10:10.39 | Slap_Stick | i wasn't aware of that |
| 10:11.07 | gallus | Trewas: i don't think so, I think it will be redundant but I think It will be not a problem |
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| 10:11.43 | Zap-W | can anyone recommend on a SIP VoIP client other than ekiga? |
| 10:11.57 | Slap_Stick | so when it is being acl could i just add in my own acl in there without it being linked to acl_smtp_mail ? |
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| 10:12.44 | Slap_Stick | ahh got it |
| 10:12.48 | Slap_Stick | sorry, acl_not_Smtp |
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| 10:12.53 | Slap_Stick | thanks petemc :) |
| 10:13.06 | petemc | np |
| 10:14.47 | last0ne | hello everybody |
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| 10:15.45 | user1_ | do you guys suggest spamassassin or dspam for exim |
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| 10:17.29 | gallus | see you soon |
| 10:17.32 | petemc | dspam cant be called at smtp time |
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| 10:17.45 | petemc | so, if you want to give a 5xx response to spam, dspam is no good |
| 10:18.01 | user1_ | when is dspam used? |
| 10:18.06 | petemc | in a router |
| 10:18.08 | user1_ | petemc, can i use both dspam and sa? |
| 10:18.11 | petemc | yes |
| 10:18.49 | user1_ | ok, so for SA, i can set it up in smtp,, for dspam, it must be in router before mail gets to smtp? |
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| 10:20.33 | petemc | user1_: thats backwards, a mail is delivered via smtp, where you can call sa on it, then, if its accepted, you can run dspam on it via a router |
| 10:20.45 | kairu0 | are libphp-jpgraph packages available for php5 in etch? i dont find them in the normal repos and was wondering if anyone knows |
| 10:21.11 | user1_ | why does dspam run on router |
| 10:21.18 | petemc | thats the way it works |
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| 10:21.35 | user1_ | what does dspam check |
| 10:21.42 | xored | my server just crashed tonight and i would like to know why, where would you guys start checking the logs ? |
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| 10:22.27 | kairu0 | xored, i'd check /var/log/messages first |
| 10:22.28 | user1_ | xored, what kinda server |
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| 10:23.07 | user1_ | btw, how do you upgrade a package and its depencies? |
| 10:23.10 | xored | user1_: etch, webserver, apache2/mod_python, php), mysql, sqlite |
| 10:23.46 | xored | kairu0: what should i look for..i mean i have the muni stats here just "before" the crash...but i cant see anything that bad |
| 10:23.53 | user1_ | petemc, so i do not use dspam with smtp server |
| 10:24.01 | petemc | user1_: you misunderstand me |
| 10:24.03 | kairu0 | xored, any more details about how it crashed? |
| 10:24.09 | yangvnc | user1_: aptitude update;aptitude install <package> will give you a newer package |
| 10:24.42 | petemc | user1_: the point is, the only time you can run dspam on a mail is after its been accepted, so if you decide its spam, all you can do is delete it or move it to a folder |
| 10:25.21 | petemc | user1_: whereas with sa, you can do check in realtime as its being delivered, and if you decide its spam, you can tell the sending mail server no thanks |
| 10:25.25 | user1_ | petemc, but that's decided by spamassassin |
| 10:25.38 | petemc | what is? |
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| 10:25.58 | user1_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.24 | Zap-W | how to tell aptitude to purge all packages marked as RC |
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| 10:27.39 | xored | kairu0: i have none...thats the problem |
| 10:28.16 | xored | kairu0: its a remote machine..so all i could do is a hard restart thorugh the interface...i know the server crashed because of OOM a while ago..but i fixed that my tuning mysql /apache |
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| 10:28.41 | xored | kairu0: all i have done yesterday is installaing mod_python and 2 trac systems..which are not visited yet |
| 10:28.44 | _AleX_ | hi all. I've a strange problem with openldap. openldap works fine, but when i try to add a new database in slapd.conf (at the end of the file, and using a bdb database), i've got this error on all databases : internal error : Internal (implementation specific) error. any idea ? |
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| 10:29.26 | kairu0 | xored, so it was a fatal crash that hard locked everything? |
| 10:29.45 | kairu0 | Zap-W, if you find out, let me know :-) |
| 10:29.52 | xored | kairu0: yep, apache / mysql / ssh |
| 10:29.54 | xored | anything down |
| 10:29.57 | xored | no response at all |
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| 10:30.26 | kairu0 | xored, maybe tail the dmesg logs |
| 10:30.37 | kairu0 | sounds like hardware maybe |
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| 10:31.54 | xored | kairu0: dmesg is quite "empty" as it got resetted after the restart i guess |
| 10:31.56 | cydork | Zap-W: aptitude purge '~c' |
| 10:32.12 | kairu0 | xored, how about the dmesg.log.xxx backups |
| 10:32.31 | xored | i deleted them days ago..the old ones |
| 10:32.33 | zicho | How can i check how much RAM i have? |
| 10:32.34 | kairu0 | xored, oops dmesg.1, etc. |
| 10:32.43 | xored | the current one did no exceed the size to be "rolled up" |
| 10:32.43 | azeem | zicho: free |
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| 10:33.05 | xored | kairu0: -rw-r--r-- 1 root adm 4.5K May 6 13:59 dmesg.1.gz |
| 10:33.09 | xored | kairu0: bit old |
| 10:33.13 | kairu0 | xored, maybe check the kern.log |
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| 10:33.31 | kairu0 | xored, its probably lower level than apache/php i guess |
| 10:33.45 | zicho | azeem: ty! |
| 10:34.03 | xored | kairu0: |
| 10:34.03 | xored | Jul 25 04:03:51 kilo075 kernel: eth0: no IPv6 routers present |
| 10:34.03 | xored | Jul 25 11:55:59 kilo075 kernel: klogd 1.4.1#18, log source = /proc/kmsg started. |
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| 10:34.09 | xored | look at the times |
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| 10:34.19 | xored | so the server crashed at 4:03.. |
| 10:34.34 | xored | kairu0: thats out of kern log.. |
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| 10:34.45 | xored | kairu0: but nothing strange in front of it |
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| 10:35.10 | kairu0 | xored, have you checked your filesystem? |
| 10:35.18 | creatoun | !nvidia one-liner |
| 10:35.18 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable. |
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| 10:35.50 | xored | kairu0: not yet |
| 10:35.55 | bryndza | Hi, i am looking for an KDE applet that notify me, about missing updates. I can`t find anythinf except apt-watch, which is only in stable, I am ussing testing-lenny, and dependencies can`t be solved. |
| 10:37.01 | xored | kairu0: http://pastebin.ca/632975 |
| 10:37.06 | kairu0 | xored, i would check that, look around the 04:03 am time in the messages log |
| 10:37.14 | xored | kairu0: thats the lines out of messages...nothing suspecios here |
| 10:37.21 | xored | kairu0: did that cheef :)# |
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| 10:37.26 | b52lap | hi |
| 10:37.35 | ghatak | Hi, I have a system which can boot up but it is not going any further than Disk MD syncing. I am connected to system via Console remotely. What can i do to get in and do some diagnostics..... ? |
| 10:38.49 | kairu0 | xored, do you have libsensors setup? maybe you can check temps on the cpu, hdd, mobo, etc |
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| 10:40.59 | xored | kairu0: no i havent |
| 10:41.05 | xored | kairu0: look at this ! : http://pastebin.ca/632983 |
| 10:41.10 | xored | kairu0: someone rebootet the server |
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| 10:41.55 | kairu0 | xored, that looks deliberate :) |
| 10:42.04 | kairu0 | xored, must have been al qaeda |
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| 10:42.48 | ghatak | this is where it gets stuck, does not go any further than this http://pastebin.ca/632989 |
| 10:42.57 | xored | kairu0: as i did not the reboot..i have really no clue |
| 10:43.07 | xored | kairu0: the system has been back to work after that.. |
| 10:44.22 | kairu0 | xored, check the auth.log to see who logged in |
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| 10:54.20 | sputnicklebenef | hi there. |
| 10:54.28 | illusion | hello |
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| 10:54.49 | sputnicklebenef | is there any chance to install the bnx2 driver (ethernet broadcom) on a 2.6.16 ? |
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| 10:59.03 | iNPUTmice | kennt jemand ne mysql konsolen anwendung mit dem ich mysql adminstrienen kann. user anlegen und so? |
| 10:59.22 | iNPUTmice | und jetzt sagt nicht mysql. es suckt gewaltig in SQL syntax user anzulegen |
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| 11:00.56 | Wikiz | Hey ho! Anyone got a good suggestion how to cap BW on a linux box? i wanna set it to eg 300 mbit... |
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| 11:02.45 | replman | Hello World\n |
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| 11:03.45 | replman | does anyone know how to change the colors in the shell and in lynx? Dark blue on black is a terrible combination... |
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| 11:05.26 | xored | guyes my clamscan just freaks out and takes 95% of the CPU usage for arround 50secs now..# |
| 11:05.40 | xored | where to find out why and what he scans and how to configure that |
| 11:06.34 | harpal | xored: join clamav chennel |
| 11:06.38 | valdyn | !wondershaper |
| 11:06.38 | dpkg | wondershaper is, like, a script which uses the traffic shaping features of the Linux kernel to fix some problems, including making downloads continue at full speed while uploads are happening at max rate, plus keeping good interactive response times while bulk transfers are busy |
| 11:07.03 | valdyn | Wikiz: ^^^ or http://lartc.org/ |
| 11:07.12 | iNPUTmice | hi |
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| 11:08.10 | Wikiz | valdyn thanks alot |
| 11:08.27 | iNPUTmice | does anyone knows a mysql admin programm for the console. for adding and removing users. and please dont tell me to use 'mysql' because it really sucks to add user with sql syntax |
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| 11:15.24 | nono31 | hello |
| 11:15.37 | possie | is there away to make netcat keep listing to a port? instead of quiting after receiving a EOF ? |
| 11:16.10 | nono31 | aptitude upgrade does not show me any package to update. I'm using sid and did not update for 10 days. someone knows what the problem is? |
| 11:16.25 | eth01 | how do i setenforce of 0? |
| 11:16.26 | ghatak | Where can i find sarge Netinstall CD image (.iso) ? |
| 11:17.00 | eth01 | ghatak: the debian website |
| 11:17.41 | xand | ghatak: sarge is deprecated |
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| 11:18.09 | abrotman | ghatak: ftp.ch.debian.org |
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| 11:22.38 | MangosDebian | possie: inetd? |
| 11:22.46 | MangosDebian | abrotman: mornin! |
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| 11:24.51 | MangosDebian | eth01: have you tried the setenforce command yet? |
| 11:25.21 | harpal | how can I remove packages installed with source? |
| 11:25.34 | azeem | harpal: manually |
| 11:25.45 | azeem | harpal: or maybe there is a "make uninstall" target provided |
| 11:26.43 | harpal | so its batter to give --prefix at install time |
| 11:26.56 | harpal | so we can remove that directory directly |
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| 11:27.17 | MangosDebian | harpal: --prefix=/opt/foo is the best in that it allows for easy 100% removal |
| 11:27.38 | abrotman | MangosDebian: don't you ever sleep ? |
| 11:27.41 | abrotman | !stow |
| 11:27.41 | dpkg | hmm... stow is Stow can be found at http://www.gnu.org/software/stow apt-get install stow Quick Intro to stow: ./configure && make && make install prefix=/usr/local/stow/program-version; cd /usr/local/stow/ ; stow program-version. Use stow -D to remove. |
| 11:27.47 | azeem | or use something sane like GNU Stow if you have to manage more than a couple of... |
| 11:27.59 | MangosDebian | abrotman: ? its 7am man, what timezone are you? |
| 11:28.00 | abrotman | azeem: did Guerin find you? |
| 11:28.07 | abrotman | MangosDebian: it's only 4am here .. wussy |
| 11:28.11 | abrotman | no .. it's 7:30 or so |
| 11:28.12 | MangosDebian | lol |
| 11:28.19 | azeem | abrotman: I'm still alive, so apparently not |
| 11:28.20 | MangosDebian | abrotman: don't you ever sleep?! lol |
| 11:28.24 | azeem | abrotman: but his issue is resolved, yes |
| 11:28.50 | abrotman | ok |
| 11:28.54 | abrotman | MangosDebian: too much! |
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| 11:30.01 | harpal | but how can I link that library and binary |
| 11:30.03 | abrotman | i don't drink coffee |
| 11:30.22 | azeem | harpal: praise autoconf |
| 11:30.25 | azeem | and automake |
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| 11:30.38 | azeem | and/or curse the person who wrote the Makefile, otherwise |
| 11:30.43 | b52lap | http://pastebin.com/m1da35a3f boys and girls this cript is crashing my network |
| 11:30.52 | b52lap | after executing it |
| 11:30.55 | b52lap | ./bridge-start |
| 11:30.56 | b52lap | Wed Jul 25 11:21:45 2007 TUN/TAP device tap0 opened |
| 11:30.56 | b52lap | Wed Jul 25 11:21:45 2007 Persist state set to: ON |
| 11:31.09 | b52lap | but the system went off , network crash :D |
| 11:31.10 | abrotman | it's not crashing it .. it's reconfiguring it |
| 11:31.25 | streuner_ | hm, debhelper is in vacation? |
| 11:31.27 | abrotman | or .. it's supposed to be |
| 11:31.32 | abrotman | streuner_: not fast enough |
| 11:31.40 | b52lap | abrotman, well the configuration is taking more than 10 minutes so ... :) |
| 11:31.59 | b52lap | abrotman, even taking a cafe take less than 10 minutes :) |
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| 11:32.57 | saul__ | alguien me dice como puedo tener permisos para eliminar archivos?? |
| 11:33.13 | azeem | !es |
| 11:33.14 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:33.31 | b52lap | hm |
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| 11:33.55 | DragonD | how can i make a usbdevice be handled by a certian module? |
| 11:34.19 | streuner_ | what kind of module do you think you need? |
| 11:34.24 | saul__ | hello |
| 11:35.09 | streuner_ | !blacklist |
| 11:35.10 | dpkg | In etch, lenny and sid, edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "install module_name /bin/true". IMPORTANT: ask about blacklist-initramfs. For sarge ask me about <blacklist sarge>. |
| 11:35.20 | DragonD | streuner_: it is a video capture usb device and it has a cx25840 chip but the cx25840 module is not working. |
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| 11:35.55 | streuner_ | DragonD: what does "cat /proc/version" say? |
| 11:36.16 | DragonD | Linux version 2.6.18-4-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12etch2) (dannf@debian.org) (g |
| 11:36.17 | DragonD | c version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03 |
| 11:36.18 | DragonD | 12 UTC 2007 |
| 11:36.20 | DragonD | oops |
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| 11:36.53 | DragonD | dfsg?! |
| 11:37.20 | saul__ | spanish?¿?¿ |
| 11:37.35 | saul__ | spanish?¿?¿ |
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| 11:37.41 | zamuro | saul__: Ya te dijeron que en #debian-es |
| 11:37.48 | DragonD | no hablo smanish |
| 11:37.54 | fishfinger | Is there a way to make apt-get/aptitude ignore certain packages when installing xorg? |
| 11:38.02 | DragonD | streuner_: ? |
| 11:38.06 | saul__ | thank you |
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| 11:40.03 | streuner_ | DragonD: its firmware or module? |
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| 11:40.35 | unsolo_ | anything new in etch when it comes to setting up and defining networkxs |
| 11:40.35 | rem_ | this install script checks for linux standard base 1.3 using a couple methods - none of which apply to my current system http://pastebin.com/m53674421 |
| 11:40.52 | rem_ | ...help |
| 11:41.05 | DragonD | one time when i pluged it in lsusb said cx25840 something now it's just saying Adaptec, Inc. |
| 11:41.18 | DragonD | streuner_: so i think it's not using the right module |
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| 11:42.26 | streuner_ | DragonD: show us your dmesg in paster bot (/msg dpkg paste) |
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| 11:45.05 | rem_ | method 1 is executing the command "lsb_release --short --version" which it expects will return an lsb compliance version...but alas does not, instead returns "No LSB modules...." |
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| 11:45.46 | DragonD | streuner_: http://paste.debian.net/33370 |
| 11:46.09 | rem_ | method 2 is checking for /lib/ld-lsb.so.1 which doesn't exist |
| 11:46.26 | rem_ | nor does any /lib/ld-lsb.so.whatever |
| 11:46.47 | rem_ | yet linux-base package is installed on my system |
| 11:47.05 | rem_ | btw - the script is old c.2003/4 |
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| 11:49.00 | streuner_ | DragonD: do you need firmware in order to make that work? |
| 11:49.23 | streuner_ | parm: firmware:Firmware image [default: v4l-cx25840.fw] |
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| 11:49.40 | Zap-W | any backports of xfce available? |
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| 11:50.10 | unsolo_ | Don't seem to be have all the variables for eth1/inet. wtf |
| 11:50.12 | streuner_ | well, backports.org or make your own backport (/msg dpkg simple sid backports) |
| 11:50.12 | DragonD | streuner_: i think so and i allready have it in /lib/firmware |
| 11:50.31 | streuner_ | DragonD: where did you tell the system to use the fw? |
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| 11:50.51 | DragonD | streuner_: tell the system to use the fw? |
| 11:51.32 | unsolo_ | no one that can help today ? |
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| 11:52.13 | streuner_ | DragonD: the description of modinfo tell to use the parm. (fw) |
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| 11:52.41 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.02 | harpal | unsolo_: you have some problem in that interface file |
| 11:53.13 | DragonD | streuner_: i don't have modinfo. what package is it in? |
| 11:53.33 | unsolo_ | harpal: i cant seem to figure out what tho |
| 11:53.57 | DragonD | streuner_: modutils found it |
| 11:54.13 | harpal | unsolo_: when u restart your network then this error comes? |
| 11:54.35 | streuner_ | uhm, how do you even able to run a 2.6.x kernel then? |
| 11:54.35 | unsolo_ | http://rafb.net/p/Y0tCmj24.html |
| 11:54.35 | mythomaniac | how do i configure apt-get, with apt-config, to set apt-get to use Install-Recommends and Install-Suggests? |
| 11:54.37 | MangosDebian | funny -> http://www.afrotechmods.com/submitted/gCube/DCP_0806.jpg |
| 11:54.54 | unsolo_ | harpal: thats from the network/interfaces file |
| 11:54.58 | abrotman | mythomaniac: use aptitude |
| 11:55.03 | streuner_ | !find modinfo |
| 11:55.10 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'modinfo' (5 of 6): (/sbin/modinfo) in admin/module-init-tools ;; (/usr/lib/gtktalog/modinfo) in gnome/gtktalog ;; (/usr/share/plum/support/modinfo) in net/plum ;; (/usr/share/gtablix/modinfo.pm) in misc/gtablix ;; (/usr/share/doc/libhd13-doc/html/structmodinfo__t.html) in doc/libhd13-doc. |
| 11:55.13 | DragonD | streuner_: it defaults to v4l-cx25840.fw which i have in /lib/firmware |
| 11:55.25 | streuner_ | DragonD: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 11:55.39 | mythomaniac | abrotman, aptitude blows - anything that is not installed through it - it will want to uninstall |
| 11:55.47 | DragonD | streuner_: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 11:56.01 | abrotman | mythomaniac: you can fix that |
| 11:56.01 | unsolo_ | nvm found it |
| 11:56.05 | unsolo_ | typo as allways |
| 11:56.09 | mythomaniac | abrotman, how? |
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| 11:56.25 | harpal | unsolo_: you have to check spelling of address |
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| 11:57.30 | abrotman | mythomaniac: you can mark them |
| 11:57.33 | unsolo_ | yea i saw that one just as i rearead my post.. |
| 11:57.36 | abrotman | man aptitude |
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| 11:57.51 | unsolo_ | how do i configure two network devices to have same subnet |
| 11:57.53 | abrotman | mythomaniac: i don't think you can setup apt-get to grab recommends/suggests |
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| 11:58.54 | mythomaniac | abrotman, yes you can through apt-config - do a apt-config dump in cli |
| 11:59.49 | abrotman | mythomaniac: i just glanced at the config file example .. didn't see it anywhere .. (though i'm looking at etch boxes) |
| 12:00.00 | mythomaniac | abrotman, it says that recommends/suggests are set to 0 - i assume that it needs to be set to 1 in order to do it - but i cant find a man pag on it |
| 12:00.41 | abrotman | my dump doesn't show them .. |
| 12:00.51 | DragonD | streuner_: any other deas? |
| 12:00.58 | abrotman | but like i said .. i'm looking at etch boxes |
| 12:01.01 | mythomaniac | abrotman, damn im on testing ;( |
| 12:01.13 | mythomaniac | or lenny if you will |
| 12:01.20 | abrotman | mythomaniac: i'm sure someone else here is running testing/unstable |
| 12:01.38 | abrotman | i am at home .. just not at work anywhere |
| 12:01.55 | mythomaniac | abrotman, thanks though ;) |
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| 12:11.24 | streuner_ | DragonD: run "tail -f /var/log/messages" and stick that USB-Device again into the box |
| 12:12.29 | DragonD | same thing just "usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3" and "usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" |
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| 12:13.38 | H2OyJaBoN | hi! |
| 12:14.09 | subx | "Debian Sarge users have the BCI enabled FreeType from the "testing" and "unstable" package repositories. Next stable Debian version will include it as their default. The Debian package name is libfreetype6." <-- could anyone confirm if this is true? |
| 12:14.10 | DragonD | hehe... that was cool. i modprobe -r ehci_hcd then modprobe ehci_hcd.. thought the system had crashed but thanks to that tail i say it reloading all my usb devs |
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| 12:16.01 | streuner_ | one is USB, the other USB2 ... |
| 12:16.03 | fungo | that openoffice is so ugly, novell's is more "cute" |
| 12:16.41 | DragonD | streuner_: ahh |
| 12:16.43 | fungo | there's a way to make openoffice use my .gtkrc instead of that windows imitation? |
| 12:17.25 | DragonD | streuner_: so don't the modules have to tell the kernel what device id's they accept? |
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| 12:18.30 | Knight_Lord | Is it possible to have debian running off of a USB stick |
| 12:19.13 | subx | is debian etchs libfreetype6 BCI enabled? How could i find out? |
| 12:19.30 | DragonD | Knight_Lord: i think so as long as you biso and jumpdrive suport it |
| 12:19.34 | streuner_ | get the source and look into debian/rules |
| 12:19.49 | subx | ok |
| 12:20.54 | DragonD | streuner_: so can i use that force parm to force my device to use that module? |
| 12:21.16 | Knight_Lord | DragonD: the biggest problem I have is how to boot from it |
| 12:22.14 | Knight_Lord | DragonD: I believe I need to use syslinux but i've never used it |
| 12:22.40 | DragonD | Knight_Lord: well i've only done it once and what was with i think dsl... |
| 12:23.05 | DragonD | Knight_Lord: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/179 |
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| 12:24.27 | Knight_Lord | DragonD Thanks a lot :) |
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| 12:26.07 | ghatak | abrotman: thanks, got it, I need to build some packages for sarge boxes which can not be upgraded at the moment. :) |
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| 12:32.19 | GhostlyDeath | Does Debian and GRUB support GPT? |
| 12:32.55 | GrahamA | I'm trying to get my CPU tempreture on it's own so I can use it on a karamba theme I'm modifying, I can do sensors | grep "M/B Temp:" to get the line but I don't know how to get the specific figureM/B Temp: +51°C (low = -1°C, high = +127°C) sensor = thermistor |
| 12:34.29 | abrotman | wee bit delayed |
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| 12:35.49 | konadr | awk or cut the figure out GrahamA ? |
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| 12:36.57 | DragonD | streuner_: so. would it help to know that the device i'm tring to use is an adaptec AVC-1400 |
| 12:37.14 | abrotman | awk '{print $2}' or something |
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| 12:39.21 | overflow | hi |
| 12:39.27 | overflow | I have a question |
| 12:39.39 | abrotman | didn't you already ask a question today? |
| 12:39.43 | overflow | how can I use nmap with a proxy? |
| 12:39.47 | overflow | no |
| 12:39.52 | overflow | i'ts the first time |
| 12:39.56 | abrotman | through a proxy? |
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| 12:40.20 | PrMoriarty | hello |
| 12:40.28 | overflow | yes |
| 12:40.38 | PrMoriarty | do you know how i can repair a block? |
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| 12:40.48 | PrMoriarty | i have a error reading block 2097159 |
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| 12:41.08 | wingot | Hey |
| 12:41.18 | wingot | I'm having an issue with apache2 and VirtualHosts |
| 12:41.42 | wingot | I create two virtualhost directives, but it only uses the first one |
| 12:41.54 | wingot | Even if the servername is the same as the second section |
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| 12:42.59 | abrotman | overflow: i'm not sure you can .. and seems to me it owuld defeat the purpose |
| 12:43.12 | overflow | i've serach proxy chains |
| 12:43.17 | overflow | scuse me |
| 12:43.20 | overflow | i've find |
| 12:43.24 | overflow | proxychains |
| 12:43.47 | wingot | www.bushveld-platinum.com/config.html <-- that's the config |
| 12:44.11 | konadr | wingot, The requested URL /config.html was not found on this server. |
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| 12:45.16 | wingot | My mistake, should be there now |
| 12:45.30 | abrotman | dunno ... searching the man page for proxy only yielded one result |
| 12:46.30 | wingot | The vhost config anyway |
| 12:46.58 | wingot | I had them spread across two files originally, in the sites-enabled directory, but put together when problems started to try to debug |
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| 12:47.46 | ghatak | Can anyone help me get into my box, i think it has a bad disk, the kernel hangs while booting.... ? |
| 12:47.47 | marcuss | Hey people ,Have any of you have any idea how to install IonCube ,It is ok on every other distro ,Just not debain :/ |
| 12:48.04 | wingot | ghatak: Use a livecd, and then chown into it |
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| 12:48.32 | ghatak | wingot: the system is 300 miles away from where I am, i only have console to it via modem :) |
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| 12:49.39 | wingot | ghatak: Nevermind then :) |
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| 12:50.55 | ghatak | wingot: the kernel boots, but hangs during MD sync, i am wondering if i can get in before that, then i might be able to do some rescue stuff.... but dont know how...? |
| 12:51.04 | marcuss | Hey people ,Have any of you have any idea how to install IonCube ,It is ok on every other distro ,Just not debain :/ |
| 12:51.58 | wingot | ghatak: You might be able to start it by passing init=/bin/sh on the kernel boot line if you have access |
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| 12:52.39 | ghatak | wingot: I have, and i did, with same results .... |
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| 12:52.57 | ghatak | wingot: although i did init=/bin/bash |
| 12:53.01 | wingot | ghatak: Then unless there is another kernel on that boot partition, you have a serious problem :) |
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| 12:53.28 | konadr | wingot, do you definately have NameVirtualHost *:80 in your config? |
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| 12:53.31 | l_r | hello |
| 12:53.55 | wingot | NameVirtualHost? I've only ever used VirtualHost before |
| 12:53.58 | ghatak | wingot: i think i do, there is an older version of kernel |
| 12:54.14 | albert | is there a way of defining the xterm options (bg, cursor options, etc) with a configfile instead of startup-options? |
| 12:54.16 | ghatak | wingot: dont understand how would make a differece .... |
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| 12:54.37 | wingot | ghatak: If it is a problem with the sector that the kernel is on, as you theorised? |
| 12:54.38 | l_r | i am making a .deb. i need to refer to a file in the deb itself from the preinst script. is there a way to do this? how can i get its location from within the deb itself? |
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| 12:55.14 | riz_ | Hello. I have a strange problem in gnome-terminal: when I use arrows up instead of repeat the last command it writes ;A when I press arrow down it writes ;B In console, it works fine..Could someone suggest me something ? |
| 12:55.28 | konadr | wingot, put this in before your vhosts see if it works after a restart |
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| 12:55.55 | loesh | hmm, how do i turn of the beep in my console when tab-completing and having multiple/no matches? |
| 12:57.07 | petemc | !beep |
| 12:57.07 | dpkg | i guess beep is /exec -o echo -ne "\007". A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or ^G, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port |
| 12:57.18 | petemc | hmm |
| 12:57.25 | petemc | !bell |
| 12:57.25 | dpkg | somebody said bell was "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc |
| 12:58.17 | H2OyJaBoN | is there some packages for bandwith admin ? |
| 12:58.48 | petemc | wondershaper |
| 12:59.17 | petemc | or look into cbq |
| 12:59.33 | loesh | petemc, thanks :) |
| 12:59.46 | ghatak | wingot: sounds to be the same thing for second kernel |
| 12:59.49 | wingot | konadr: O, that seems to have done something |
| 13:00.20 | konadr | wingot, do you now get to each individual vhost by address in the browser? |
| 13:00.27 | harpal | I have one process but when i try to kill that then it doesnt kill that process |
| 13:00.42 | harpal | then how to kill that process |
| 13:01.01 | H2OyJaBoN | petemc, thanks |
| 13:01.08 | wingot | konadr: Well, www.bushveld-platinum.com now gets to itself, and mysql.wingot.com gets to a Internal Server Error |
| 13:01.14 | wingot | So possibly |
| 13:01.45 | petemc | harpal: can you see the status of the process in top? |
| 13:01.46 | wingot | It at least shows that something is different |
| 13:02.18 | konadr | ya just stick in a basic index in the second vhost or use DirectoryIndex to test |
| 13:02.53 | harpal | petemc: how can I do that because in top i see some of process |
| 13:03.06 | petemc | harpal: the S column |
| 13:03.09 | harpal | but not that process |
| 13:03.32 | petemc | ps aux|grep processname |
| 13:03.34 | konadr | sorry that was for you wingot ^^ |
| 13:04.22 | wingot | konadr: Yeah, I noticed it. I touched index.html, and same Internal Server Error for that file ... |
| 13:04.45 | harpal | petemc: it shows me |
| 13:04.46 | harpal | root 13998 0.0 0.5 68660 1340 pts/1 T 13:35 0:11 snort_inline -c /etc/snort_inline/snort_inline.conf -Q -N -l /var/log/snort_inline/ -t /var/log/snort_inline/ |
| 13:04.56 | konadr | is the dir index set to cgi or html wingot ? |
| 13:05.15 | wingot | error log is complaining about .htaccess |
| 13:05.17 | petemc | trombo: the status is "T" which is stopped |
| 13:05.20 | petemc | erm |
| 13:05.27 | wingot | Oh, right, phpmyadmin by default creates a .htaccess with deny from all :P |
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| 13:05.35 | konadr | :) thatll do it |
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| 13:06.26 | harpal | petemc: if process is stopped that why it shows in ps -ae or ps -aux |
| 13:06.40 | konadr | you prob want to lock that down wingot rather than open to all |
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| 13:08.22 | Bodorus | hey, how can i access a shared folder in debian with a WinXP computer? i have to give a username and password now |
| 13:08.28 | petemc | harpal: its stoppedor traced - you could try kill -9 , or perhaps try using kill to tell it to continue |
| 13:08.37 | petemc | stopped or traced |
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| 13:09.55 | harpal | petemc: thanx it works I have stoped that process |
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| 13:14.18 | rgsteele | Hey guys - is the ia64 arch support in Etch equivalent to the i386 support? I seem to remember there being distinctly less for the ia64 arch, but I wanted to verify before I got some Core 2 Duo's. |
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| 13:14.58 | abrotman | rgsteele: ia64 is not for core2 |
| 13:15.03 | abrotman | !itanium |
| 13:15.04 | dpkg | i guess itanium is intels 64 bit processor, or vaporware |
| 13:15.07 | abrotman | erm .. |
| 13:15.09 | abrotman | !ia64 |
| 13:15.10 | dpkg | it has been said that ia64 is (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. see http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64 |
| 13:15.11 | babilen | rgsteele: you can run x86 just fine on core 2 duo architectures. and that would be amd64 |
| 13:15.32 | abrotman | rgsteele: things like flash are difficult |
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| 13:16.13 | JGray | core2 does support 64-bit though right? |
| 13:16.32 | abrotman | yes |
| 13:16.33 | JGray | is there arch for that (other then i386)? |
| 13:16.34 | cafuego | Yes, x86_64 (amd64/em64t) |
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| 13:16.55 | cafuego | whether or not you want that on your desktop... |
| 13:17.07 | rgsteele | I'm actually thinking more for a server environment |
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| 13:17.28 | slackbr | In debian and debian like system what is the last initialization script, before the X up ? |
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| 13:20.40 | cafuego | rgsteele: For serverrs amd64 is just fine. |
| 13:20.57 | Loady | hi.. anyone used cf pcmcia cards? im a bit lost how can i mount/format/use my cf pcmcia card? |
| 13:21.04 | cafuego | slackbr: ls /etc/rc2.d/S*; the last one listed. |
| 13:21.23 | rgsteele | cafuego: amd64 will work even on a non-AMD processor? |
| 13:21.28 | cafuego | rgsteele: yup |
| 13:21.54 | slackbr | cafuego, tks |
| 13:21.55 | rgsteele | cafuego: Ah, excellent. Thanks for your help folks. |
| 13:21.58 | cafuego | Well, not on PPC or an itanium, but on an x86_64 cpu, it will. |
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| 13:23.25 | ghatak | can I edit files when i am at grub command line ? |
| 13:25.20 | petemc | ghatak: no, try adding init=/bin/sh to the kernel line |
| 13:25.47 | slackbr | cafuego, well I want start pppoe at boot, in which dir shoud I write the comand ? |
| 13:26.10 | ghatak | petemc: did that, system wont go past device syncing, i am thinking about commenting out stuff in /etc/fstab while in grub |
| 13:26.10 | slackbr | Int script |
| 13:26.13 | slackbr | I mean |
| 13:26.26 | petemc | ghatak: yeah, dont think you can do that |
| 13:26.27 | pb_werkin | man update-rc.d |
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| 13:26.47 | creatoun | !tell creatoun about one-liner |
| 13:27.02 | creatoun | !tell creatoun about nvidia-one-liner |
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| 13:29.47 | mangul | is it possible to apt-get samba and parse it ./configure ar gs? |
| 13:30.01 | zicho | Is there any music players for GNU/Linux which support the *.ape-format? |
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| 13:42.09 | abrotman | mangul: why? |
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| 13:48.00 | Eros | any body? |
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| 13:48.40 | stoned | I hate being sick |
| 13:48.48 | stoned | oh god the pain |
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| 13:49.13 | stoned | ape format, hmm amarok can usually play anything |
| 13:49.21 | subx | why does the debian etch desktop install default to gnome, there should be options to use other desktops like kde |
| 13:49.36 | petemc | there are options |
| 13:49.42 | stoned | subx: it doesn't default to anything afaik |
| 13:49.43 | petemc | aptitude install kde |
| 13:49.47 | Eros | of course it is |
| 13:49.47 | stoned | the first cd has gnome on it |
| 13:49.49 | stoned | thats all |
| 13:49.59 | stoned | you don't have to install it |
| 13:49.59 | subx | the net installer desktop option uses gnome |
| 13:50.09 | Eros | when install debian you should deselect the desktop |
| 13:50.16 | stoned | subx: it installs all 3 afaik, tasksel desktop env. option |
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| 13:50.35 | stoned | it doesn't use gnome |
| 13:50.40 | stoned | its just a gui gtk installer |
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| 13:50.54 | subx | i understand u can deselect it and do it yourself but there should be a kde desktop option in the installer menu |
| 13:51.06 | subx | instead of 'desktop' what installs gnome |
| 13:51.10 | stoned | subx: you're about to start pissing people off |
| 13:51.17 | petemc | subx: just install kde and stop complaining |
| 13:51.18 | subx | why? |
| 13:51.20 | stoned | subx: either you can cry about it, or just fix the damn problem. |
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| 13:51.35 | stoned | !remove gnome |
| 13:51.35 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 13:51.38 | stoned | !install kde |
| 13:51.38 | dpkg | [install kde] In sarge/etch/lenny, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
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| 13:51.57 | subx | its strange how a lot of distros lend themselves towards gnome instead of kde |
| 13:52.14 | hark | subx: there are separate kde cds available, but you can try with pasing the installer "install tasks=kde-desktop" |
| 13:52.24 | subx | yes i know all that |
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| 13:52.40 | hark | then why ask? |
| 13:53.05 | subx | i just thought a net-installer option to install kde would be nice |
| 13:53.27 | petemc | it should definately have an option to install windowmaker, its the best |
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| 13:53.56 | subx | petemc: stop trolling |
| 13:54.16 | stoned | petemc: ignore that |
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| 13:54.35 | petemc | im not trolling, im pointing out how silly your statements are |
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| 13:55.12 | mark25 | is the new bind 9.4.1 vulnerability patched in bind9-1:9.4.1-1 (debian testing) ? |
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| 13:55.23 | Eros | come on for some body wm could not be a suitable desktop |
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| 13:55.48 | stoned | Eros: that is why there are plenty to chose from |
| 13:55.50 | stoned | !xwinman |
| 13:55.51 | dpkg | methinks xwinman is <URL:http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/> |
| 13:55.56 | petemc | Eros: and kde wouldnt be suitable for other people, such is life |
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| 13:57.20 | hark | subx: really, if you want to use tasksel, before the installer boots, type "install tasks=kde-desktop" . |
| 13:57.46 | liable | !factinfo xwinman |
| 13:57.46 | dpkg | xwinman -- it has been requested 6 times, last by stoned, 1m 56s ago. |
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| 14:03.46 | MangosDebian | abrotman: http://picpaste.com/irc.abrotman.jpg :) (sorry OOo calc isnt the best with graph's it seems, cuts off unless I go one over axis) |
| 14:03.59 | buscon | Hi, I'm trying to set up an sftp chrooted environment: ssh does the job, sftp cannot connect |
| 14:04.05 | abrotman | wtf is that? |
| 14:04.18 | abrotman | oh .. my activity |
| 14:04.29 | themill | why would umounting a usb mass storage device take some minutes (2.6.21 kernel from lenny) |
| 14:04.39 | abrotman | themill: trying to sync ? |
| 14:04.41 | buscon | here's sftp connection error : Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer |
| 14:04.49 | abrotman | themill: run 'sync' then umonut ? |
| 14:05.07 | themill | abrotman: ok. will try. I thought I had sync as a mount option |
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| 14:07.30 | maddash | MangosDebian: why do you have multiple dots for each date? |
| 14:07.47 | MangosDebian | maddash: for every hour there was > 1 message it put a dot |
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| 14:08.07 | maddash | MangosDebian: stupid me |
| 14:08.15 | maddash | should've noticed the 24 |
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| 14:08.21 | maddash | er |
| 14:08.28 | maddash | MangosDebian: why do you have 25 hours? |
| 14:08.30 | MangosDebian | abrotman: man was creating that in ooo a pita though :) the sql was easy to get the values, but the chart stuff is rather limited it seems |
| 14:08.53 | MangosDebian | maddash: well, its 0-23, but when I do max of 23 in Y axis, it cuts 23 off so I had to go 24 *shrug* |
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| 14:09.03 | abrotman | MangosDebian: see .. i sleep! |
| 14:09.23 | MangosDebian | abrotman: ya, tell me about it. I can set a watch to your preditability lol |
| 14:09.34 | maddash | abrotman: you sleep with your laptop powered on in your bed or something? |
| 14:09.34 | mangul | hello |
| 14:09.40 | mangul | is it possible to parse arguments to apt-get? |
| 14:09.43 | MangosDebian | abrotman: your also one of the top gabbers lol. you me stoned and a few others |
| 14:09.49 | mangul | like if i wanted to apt-get samba but --with-dnsupdates |
| 14:09.51 | abrotman | MangosDebian: gabbers? |
| 14:09.53 | mangul | would it be possible? |
| 14:09.57 | abrotman | MangosDebian: oh .. total lines |
| 14:10.02 | MangosDebian | abrotman: # of messages. ya |
| 14:10.16 | abrotman | MangosDebian: if you look at the debstats page .. you'll see a trend ... |
| 14:10.35 | maddash | abrotman: what happens on saturday? |
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| 14:10.47 | MangosDebian | abrotman: ya, i can imagine. although I wouldnt mind tweaking pisg to work with the sql instead of reinventing a wheel |
| 14:11.01 | abrotman | maddash: this past week i was away ... |
| 14:11.02 | mangul | Hello? |
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| 14:11.19 | abrotman | okay then .. run away |
| 14:11.36 | themill | abrotman: yep... sync it was. |
| 14:11.55 | maddash | abrotman: and the week before? |
| 14:12.02 | abrotman | themill: another option is to mount it sync .. |
| 14:12.08 | abrotman | maddash: uhm .. wedding i think ? |
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| 14:12.14 | Douglas52392 | hi |
| 14:12.35 | Douglas52392 | i just installed debian linux off the netinstall, but now i can not boot my computer |
| 14:12.46 | abrotman | maddash: i was there in the AM .. didn't get home til 1am |
| 14:12.52 | abrotman | erm .. AM saturday ... |
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| 14:14.15 | subx | Douglas52392: did u use the net-installer to install a desktop? |
| 14:14.21 | Douglas52392 | yes |
| 14:14.45 | subx | what happens when u boot |
| 14:14.48 | Ronin | Douglas52392: what do you mean by can't boot yoru comptuer |
| 14:14.56 | Ronin | doh, wow bad spelling even for me |
| 14:15.13 | themill | abrotman: yep. thought I had already put sync into fstab will have to check that one. thnx# |
| 14:15.15 | Douglas52392 | i hear the hard drive click, but it does not boot from the hard drive. it goes right to the network boot mode |
| 14:15.22 | abrotman | themill: is it a flash device? |
| 14:15.38 | MangosDebian | abrotman: http://www.pastebin.ca/633122 (top 10 approx 1 month) |
| 14:15.44 | Douglas52392 | then it says "PXE media test failure, check cable" |
| 14:16.09 | abrotman | MangosDebian: http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
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| 14:16.18 | MangosDebian | abrotman: mind you i didnt have /me's counted in there for about 2 weeks or so. not exactly accurate compared to debstats |
| 14:16.52 | themill | abrotman: it's a gps pretending to be a mass storage device. It physically has a micro SD card inside. |
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| 14:17.08 | abrotman | themill: fair warning that those things have a limited r/w lifetime |
| 14:17.14 | abrotman | mounting it sync could shorten that |
| 14:17.19 | Douglas52392 | it goes to the intel boot agent |
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| 14:17.38 | MangosDebian | abrotman: pretty close to what debstats has at least |
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| 14:17.42 | shogunx | Douglas52392 sounds like a failing disk |
| 14:17.43 | binary010 | Hey all |
| 14:17.51 | abrotman | shogunx: or no bootloader |
| 14:17.52 | stew | themill: becuase linux doesn't always commit to disk right away, it will buffer the writes. 'sync' will commit everything. or you can mount the volume with the "sync" option, so that things will be committed immediately (which gives us some efficincy, but will let you umount immediately) |
| 14:17.55 | Douglas52392 | it cant be, the computers not even a month old |
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| 14:18.04 | stew | wow, /me is replying to scrollback |
| 14:18.10 | shogunx | abrotman, true |
| 14:18.20 | MangosDebian | abrotman: although deb stats links by alt nicks as well, mine is just by one nick so explains the differences I guess |
| 14:18.29 | subx | Douglas52392: try installing again |
| 14:18.30 | databuddy | ffs thats impressive stats lol |
| 14:18.49 | Douglas52392 | does rescue mode do anything? |
| 14:18.52 | binary010 | I was trying to install the new kernel 2.6.22 after using the custom.deb to install it. It didn't create initrd in /boot |
| 14:18.59 | binary010 | anyone any insight |
| 14:19.01 | mark25 | is the new bind 9.4.1 vulnerability patched in bind9-1:9.4.1-1 (debian testing) ? |
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| 14:19.06 | databuddy | Total number of lines: 236468 |
| 14:19.08 | databuddy | LOL |
| 14:19.22 | databuddy | thats more lines than most books have words |
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| 14:19.36 | Douglas52392 | i burned it onto a cd-rw, does that mean anything? |
| 14:19.43 | shogunx | Douglas5239 it does. however, if you choose "make system bootable" in the installer menu, expert mode, it might do the trick for you. |
| 14:20.00 | themill | stew: yeah. thanks. I know all that and normally have sync as an option. I'm just doing things from the command line (as hal + friends and automounting for me today) and forgot to specify -o sync. |
| 14:20.12 | shogunx | Douglas52392, not sure how far you made it through the process. |
| 14:20.27 | abrotman | themill: that really could shorten the lifespan of the device .. but up to you |
| 14:20.28 | Douglas52392 | the installer said it finished |
| 14:20.39 | binary010 | also what is the dpkg status "pc" |
| 14:20.43 | binary010 | and how can i remove it |
| 14:20.46 | binary010 | anyone know |
| 14:21.06 | themill | abrotman: yeah, I hear you... I've never had any problems yet with that :) touch wood.... |
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| 14:21.19 | stew | binary010: pc means you have requested that the package be Purged, and that Configuration files remain (meaning it hasn't yet been purged) |
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| 14:21.45 | Douglas52392 | where do i find "make system bootable"? |
| 14:22.07 | zicho | does anyone know where i can find the "mac-port" package? |
| 14:22.18 | binary010 | stew: i used the --purge option with dpkg "dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.22" |
| 14:22.20 | abrotman | !info mac-port etch |
| 14:22.42 | stew | binary010: then the purge operation must not have completed |
| 14:22.43 | binary010 | and i get the following error |
| 14:22.43 | abrotman | it's not a package |
| 14:22.47 | binary010 | subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 128 |
| 14:22.47 | binary010 | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 14:22.47 | binary010 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:23.01 | shogunx | Douglas52392, it should be at the bottom of the menu when you boot expert mode |
| 14:23.15 | shogunx | Douglas52392, it essentially installs the bootloader |
| 14:23.23 | maddash | where's my vlc??????! |
| 14:23.29 | binary010 | i even tried --force-all option still didn't work |
| 14:23.33 | stew | binary010: you can debug it by adding "set -x" as the second line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22.postrm and try again |
| 14:23.40 | abrotman | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 14:23.40 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 14:23.44 | stew | binary010: don't use --force options |
| 14:23.44 | abrotman | maddash: ^^ |
| 14:23.48 | binary010 | ok |
| 14:24.09 | Douglas52392 | i dont see it |
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| 14:24.54 | maddash | so much for free as in 'freedom' |
| 14:25.02 | maddash | 'free' as in freedom* |
| 14:25.18 | stew | maddash: eh? |
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| 14:25.39 | binary010 | stew: you mean in linux-images-2.6.22.postrm file ? |
| 14:26.06 | thelostbutler | hello folks. i have a system that is connected to a hardware disk array of Raid 0 and 3.8T size. the disk is recognized, but when i run mkfs.ext3 on the disk it makes a disk of 1.8T. only. Am i missing something ? I used mkfs.ext3 /dev/sde1 and that's it. when partititioning i chose the default values a.k.a full disk |
| 14:26.10 | stew | binary010: no, linux-image-2.6.22.postrm |
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| 14:26.53 | Douglas52392 | i see chose language, select keyboard layout, detect and mount CD-ROM, load installer components from CD, detect network hadrware, configure network, change debconfig priority, check CD-ROM integereity, save debug logs, about installation |
| 14:26.57 | thelostbutler | i am running Etch 64bit. would appreciate some help |
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| 14:27.03 | stew | themill: its raid0 not raid1? |
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| 14:27.17 | Douglas52392 | i dont see "make system bootable" |
| 14:27.48 | Douglas52392 | what do i do? |
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| 14:28.16 | themill | stew: no, different things (striping/mirroring) ... never actually used them myself though |
| 14:28.20 | shogunx | Douglas52392, you might need to "mount root filesystem" first, iirc. |
| 14:28.31 | Testerss | Is it ok to have both php5 and php4 installed at the same time? |
| 14:28.34 | themill | stew: they can be combined and often are, I believe |
| 14:28.41 | zicho | I cant kill an app that has crashed. I have tried both the PID and the name displayed by "top", but it just says "no process killed" |
| 14:28.49 | Douglas52392 | how do i do that off the CD? |
| 14:29.00 | stew | Douglas52392: perhaps you created a situation where neither grub nor lilo could be used? is /boot on some exotic partition or part of some raid or encrypted or something? |
| 14:29.05 | shogunx | zicho kill -9 ? |
| 14:29.17 | stew | themill: doh, misfire, sorry |
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| 14:29.31 | stew | thelostbutler: is it really RAID0 and not RAID1 ? |
| 14:29.34 | loupgaroublond | hi |
| 14:29.39 | zicho | shogunx: nope, wont work |
| 14:29.47 | loupgaroublond | how can i force debian to re-bytecompile all my python packages for 2.5? |
| 14:29.50 | binary010 | stew: how am i to use set -x with /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22.postrm |
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| 14:29.59 | shogunx | Douglas52392, try reinstalling then. |
| 14:30.12 | Douglas52392 | ok should i delete the partitions created by the installer? |
| 14:30.26 | stew | binary010: edit the file. make it the second line of the file (right under the one line #!/bin/sh) |
| 14:30.39 | shogunx | Douglas52392, you can manually install the bootloader, but its been so long since i have done it, that i would need to fool with it to get it to work. |
| 14:30.52 | binary010 | stew: ok i did that..what's the next step |
| 14:30.52 | themill | stew: ahh... (I wasn't actually following the channel and just saw the question... and then misread it ;) Thought it was an odd question. |
| 14:30.54 | stew | Douglas52392: is /boot a separate partition? |
| 14:30.56 | thelostbutler | stew: yes. i checked the raid controller and it says raid0. dmesg | grep sde shows 4xxxGB |
| 14:31.04 | stew | binary010: try purging it again |
| 14:31.28 | Douglas52392 | i see install bootloader now |
| 14:31.36 | shogunx | Douglas52392, so i do not want to try to tell you how to do it, as it might involve trial and error, and lots of commands you might not be familiar with. |
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| 14:32.11 | shogunx | Douglas52392, well, there you go. give it a try, then reboot. |
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| 14:33.17 | binary010 | stew: does set -x go in quote like "set -x" |
| 14:33.31 | stew | binary010: no, without quotes |
| 14:33.45 | klim_ | hi, can point me to some online doc on how to setup forwarding (gmail) on debian4 ? |
| 14:33.52 | klim_ | can someone... |
| 14:34.23 | Douglas52392 | now its telling me i need to install the base system, and repartition disks to get to bootloader installation |
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| 14:34.31 | binary010 | stew: i'm getting an error that says syntax error at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22.postrm line 18, near "set -x" "use" not allowed in expression at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22.postrm line 22, at end of line Execution of /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22.postrm aborted due to compilation errors. |
| 14:34.45 | stew | bah, perl |
| 14:34.57 | Baktaah | Ehm, I have a 300 mbit Intel N wifi chipset in my Laptop, is it supported by Debian? |
| 14:35.00 | stew | binary010: ok, nm, remove that line, i was assuming it was a shell script, but it appears to be a perl script |
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| 14:35.10 | binary010 | stew: and in postrm file use Cwd 'abs_path'; |
| 14:35.19 | binary010 | stew: oh ok |
| 14:35.34 | shogunx | klim_ you want to forward a mail account on a debian box to gmail? |
| 14:35.57 | binary010 | stew: yeh its a perl script |
| 14:36.07 | binary010 | stew: any other ideas |
| 14:36.22 | klim_ | shogunx: yes, that's what i want to do. |
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| 14:37.01 | stew | binary010: try just running '/var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22.postrm' and see what errors you get |
| 14:37.04 | Douglas52392 | should i install the base system to get to a bootloader? |
| 14:37.15 | klim_ | shogunx: any instructions on how to do that? |
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| 14:37.44 | Baktaah | Ehm, I have a 300 mbit Intel N wifi chipset in my Laptop, is it supported by Debian? |
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| 14:38.17 | binary010 | stew: that gave me no errors and ended with "Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub" |
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| 14:38.26 | shogunx | klim_ use a text editor or echo to write the email to forward to into /home/$USERNAME/.forward |
| 14:38.37 | stew | binary010: what does "echo $?" return after running it? |
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| 14:38.59 | binary010 | stew: 0 |
| 14:39.05 | Douglas52392 | for partitions i have SCSI1, #1,2,3,4,5,6,7 |
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| 14:39.45 | DragonD | I'm getting a crapload of errors from a jmicron sata adapter with a sata dvd drive attached... waiting on slow internet for the paste |
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| 14:40.10 | Douglas52392 | 1,2, and 3 are primary and NTFS, 5,6,7 are ext3, one is /, one is /home, one for swap |
| 14:40.13 | Zap-W | before i rm -rf /usr/share/mime/application/ , can anyone confirm that there is no such package with this directory in debian |
| 14:40.21 | klim_ | shogunx: i am talking about using mta to do that. maybe iam not clear on this. |
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| 14:40.34 | Baktaah | This sucked, I couldnt get Live CD to boot, got a tty job error, so I used the alternative CD, then when I installed it I just got a black screen when linux booted, so I got into bash/rec mode and reconfigured XORG, however when finally getting into Ubuntu the resolution was horrible and my wlan/lan didnt work, and so didnt the sound. I got Nvidia 8600m, realtek 7.1 sound, with Intel 300 mbit N wifi card. |
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| 14:40.51 | binary010 | stew: this is when you do the purge "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 9" wish i knew what that meant |
| 14:41.15 | DragonD | http://pastebin.ca/633147 any help? |
| 14:41.21 | diilbertAtWork | I am trying to setup a cron job that uploads some data to another server via sftp... I know I can use the -b option to run a batch file... but how do I login ? |
| 14:41.25 | Douglas52392 | its asking me if i want to install the base system on top of an existing instalation, is that ok? |
| 14:41.26 | stew | binary010: oh, run it again passing it a "purge" argument |
| 14:41.35 | klim_ | shogunx: like using exim or sendmail which ever is a better one. |
| 14:41.52 | shogunx | klim_, what mta are you using? i have never had the need for exim to do this, as .forward is a pretty standard way. is this for multiple users, or just one. |
| 14:41.55 | stew | binary010: run: /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22.postrm purge |
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| 14:42.07 | binary010 | stew: now i get "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 128" |
| 14:42.39 | stew | binary010: when running the postrm with 'purge'? |
| 14:42.41 | diilbertAtWork | I have no way that I can see to pass a password through the batch file or through the CL |
| 14:43.17 | binary010 | stew: no when running dpkg --purge |
| 14:43.23 | stew | binary010: run: /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22.postrm purge |
| 14:44.04 | diilbertAtWork | Any ideas ? |
| 14:44.07 | stew | binary010: OR, just remove the .postrm file, and purge the package. this would leave some files behind, but you could remove them by hand by removing the /lib/modules/2.6.22 directory |
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| 14:44.23 | binary010 | stew: nothing changed..and no errors |
| 14:44.34 | Noborusan | anyone has a fast internet here ? |
| 14:44.38 | stew | diilbertAtWork: use a passwordless ssh-key (that you can generate with ssh-keygen) |
| 14:44.41 | binary010 | stew: oh ok..let me try that |
| 14:44.44 | stew | Noborusan: lots of people |
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| 14:45.15 | Noborusan | hmm |
| 14:45.21 | Douglas52392 | which kernel should i install? its giving me 4 options: linux-image-2.6.18-4-686, linux-image-2.6.18-4-486, linux-image-2.6-686, and linux-image-2.6-486? |
| 14:45.40 | stew | Douglas52392: what cpu do you have? |
| 14:45.49 | Douglas52392 | intel |
| 14:45.52 | binary010 | stew: that did it..thanx for all your help |
| 14:46.03 | stew | Douglas52392: was it made within the last 10 years? |
| 14:46.06 | Douglas52392 | yes |
| 14:46.11 | sparrw | Douglas52392: the ones without ".18" are probably just pointing to the ones with. and you should use the 686 one |
| 14:46.12 | stew | Douglas52392: use either of the -686 kernels |
| 14:46.26 | Douglas52392 | ok |
| 14:46.27 | stew | binary010: you're welcome |
| 14:47.19 | Baktaah | This sucked, I couldnt get Live CD to boot, got a tty job error, so I used the alternative CD, then when I installed it I just got a black screen when linux booted, so I got into bash/rec mode and reconfigured XORG, however when finally getting into Ubuntu the resolution was horrible and my wlan/lan didnt work, and so didnt the sound. I got Nvidia 8600m, realtek 7.1 sound, with Intel 300 mbit N wifi card. |
| 14:47.28 | Baktaah | Does debian support those parts? |
| 14:47.33 | Douglas52392 | it says "an installation step failed: installing GRUB bootloader" |
| 14:48.03 | klim_ | shogunx: I just need a simple one that will do the job. I just want to able to send mail from my local system using/going through my gmail account. |
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| 14:48.35 | abrotman | why does dpkg-statusoverride seem like such a hack ... |
| 14:48.35 | petemc | klim_: theres a guide on the debian exim wiki on how to do that |
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| 14:48.55 | PythonNinja | hey, just used apt-get to install xserver and enlightenment |
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| 14:49.04 | PythonNinja | i need a fontserver or somthing |
| 14:49.11 | PythonNinja | what is the one i need called? |
| 14:49.13 | abrotman | did you install xorg ? |
| 14:49.15 | abrotman | the package |
| 14:49.20 | klim_ | ok |
| 14:49.23 | Douglas52392 | it says "unable to install initramfs-tools |
| 14:49.24 | stew | PythonNinja: aptitude isntall xorg |
| 14:49.36 | PythonNinja | i did apt-get install xserver-xorg-core |
| 14:49.48 | PythonNinja | and apt-get install enlightenment |
| 14:49.57 | stew | PythonNinja: install xorg |
| 14:50.18 | PythonNinja | kk thanks |
| 14:50.25 | shogunx | PythonNinja, is that the new E? |
| 14:50.32 | liable | ? |
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| 14:50.35 | Douglas52392 | how do i restore the mbr and bootloader to what i had it on before? |
| 14:50.51 | vorpal | did you back it up? |
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| 14:51.01 | Douglas52392 | i cant boot the computer |
| 14:51.09 | streuner | Douglas52392: grub? |
| 14:51.11 | shogunx | vorpal, how do you backup the mbr? |
| 14:51.12 | PythonNinja | shogunx: no it's e16 |
| 14:51.17 | Douglas52392 | didnt install right |
| 14:51.20 | PythonNinja | it's going on a pentium mmx laptop |
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| 14:51.38 | vorpal | Douglas52392: use a debian boot disk, and make it bootable |
| 14:51.52 | shogunx | PythonNinja, while I am still a big fan of E16, E17 is downright spiffy. |
| 14:51.56 | vorpal | shogunx: dd |
| 14:52.05 | Douglas52392 | the install CD, or a different disk? |
| 14:52.09 | streuner | Dough: wiki.d.o has an entry about grub (restore) |
| 14:52.10 | MatBoy | are there known issues with Linux and Asus with ACPI ? |
| 14:52.14 | shogunx | vorpal, no kidding. i did not know that. thanx. |
| 14:52.24 | abrotman | MatBoy: acpi by itself is an issue |
| 14:52.24 | PythonNinja | yeah it's awesome looking, but really, i think e17 on a 233 mhz pentium might be pushing it |
| 14:52.35 | MatBoy | abrotman, yeah that is true |
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| 14:53.57 | shogunx | PythonNinja, it seems really light, particularly if you turn off all the bling. but yeah, it might not do so well. |
| 14:54.07 | PythonNinja | nah somehow i think not |
| 14:54.17 | PythonNinja | i wil rarely use a GUI on this lappy anyway |
| 14:54.22 | PythonNinja | it's just nice to have it there |
| 14:54.52 | shogunx | PythonNinja, indeed. i ran fluxbox on 25mhz i960 thin clients with no problem. xdmcp, of course. |
| 14:55.04 | PythonNinja | :O |
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| 14:55.35 | shogunx | all it had to do was draw the screen and mouse keyboard. |
| 14:55.37 | Douglas52392 | isnt there a command to use off the CD to reinstall grub? |
| 14:56.06 | shogunx | Douglas52392, I'm wondering why it will not install initramfs-tools. |
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| 14:57.04 | themill | Douglas52392: I haven't been following, but /msg dpkg rescue and /msg dpkg rescue mode |
| 14:57.19 | shogunx | Douglas52392, hit alt and right arrow... it should give you a shell if you are running the installer. then, go to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and do a dpkg -i initram* and see what the output is. |
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| 14:58.58 | MatBoy | abrotman, but the question remains... really a prob with Asus, I hear some sounds about it here and there |
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| 14:59.38 | abrotman | MatBoy: there are problems with every mobo manufacturer |
| 14:59.40 | abrotman | !acpi |
| 14:59.40 | dpkg | acpi is probably Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the BIOS, or horribly horribly broken. for suspend software check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , or "run this arbitrary code in ring 0", or http://acpi.sf.net/, or generally better than APM but see also swsusp |
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| 15:00.18 | MatBoy | abrotman, ok |
| 15:00.27 | Douglas52392 | should i have been connected to the internet to install grub? |
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| 15:02.26 | diilbertAtWork | stew: What sftp switch would I use that with ? |
| 15:02.26 | Douglas52392 | ok this is wierd: i loaded CD in recovery mode, and 7 partitions are showing up when im prompted for a root file system |
| 15:02.57 | Douglas52392 | but only 6 showed up when i booted in install mode |
| 15:03.25 | shogunx | Douglas52392, the box should be connected to the net throughout install. |
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| 15:03.58 | Douglas52392 | i forgot, i unplugged it when install finished. could that have been why instal failed? |
| 15:04.26 | shogunx | Douglas52392 perhaps |
| 15:04.58 | vorpal | Douglas52392: one is possibly an "extended" partition |
| 15:05.19 | marcuss | Hey ,where is the default httpd logs stored on debian? |
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| 15:06.31 | Douglas52392 | grub is installed here, i loaded a shell off partition 5. should i try reinstalling grub to my mbr? |
| 15:06.54 | shogunx | Douglas52392, yes |
| 15:07.12 | liable | marcuss: in /var/log |
| 15:07.12 | marcuss | Hey ,where is the default httpd logs stored on debian? |
| 15:07.14 | marcuss | ok ty |
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| 15:07.31 | stew | diilbertAtWork: you shouldn't need any additional parameters |
| 15:07.38 | Douglas52392 | ok ill try that |
| 15:07.38 | liable | marcuss: we can see you, dont repeat every thirty seconds.. |
| 15:08.26 | Douglas52392 | i checked the menu.lst file the appropiate entries are created |
| 15:08.42 | Serge378 | Hi, could someone answer my question please: I am going to upgrade from kernel 2.6.15-1-486 to 2.6.18-4-686 (with smp support), unfortunately the package coreutils will need to be upgraded as well. Why does it need to be upgraded? And if the new kernel does not work , would booting with the previous kernel work ok with the upgraded coreutils? |
| 15:09.19 | liable | Serge378: maybe you should follow the release notes? hmm? |
| 15:09.47 | Serge378 | I am wondering more about the realtionship between kernels and coreutils |
| 15:09.49 | diilbertAtWork | stew: thanks |
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| 15:10.33 | Serge378 | specifically: would the latest coreutils work ok with a 2 year old kernel? |
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| 15:10.45 | utopia_ | hey i'm trying to add debian-multimedia.org to my list of sources for apt-get but i keep getting this error ; GPG error the public key is not available, you may want to run apt-get update to fix this |
| 15:10.56 | MangosDebian | dondelelcaro: http://picpaste.com/dondelelcaro.jpg |
| 15:10.57 | utopia_ | but i am running apt-get update when i get that error |
| 15:11.19 | Douglas52392 | menu.lst says Debian is installed in hd0,4, but im in hd0,5 now. |
| 15:11.20 | FunkyBob | can someone tell me how I can convince apt to stop trying to install Python2.5 for every python package I try to install? |
| 15:11.21 | liable | Serge378: thats coreutils prolly is a depends of something thats a depends of something that dpends on the new kernel. get it? thats why we have a package manager thats smarter than you. |
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| 15:11.28 | MangosDebian | stoned: http://picpaste.com/stoned.jpg |
| 15:11.41 | utopia_ | any idea's guys ? |
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| 15:11.51 | themill | !tell utopia_ about multimedia keyring |
| 15:12.09 | utopia_ | thanks the_lalelu |
| 15:12.17 | utopia_ | themill, |
| 15:12.25 | Serge378 | liable: ok I understand, but in the case that i have to revert to the old kernel, would it work ok with this new and upgraded coreutils? |
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| 15:12.54 | liable | Serge378: a 2.4? its no so much core-utils but if you have udev, no it wont |
| 15:13.15 | Serge378 | liable: the kernel is not that old, its still a 2.6 |
| 15:13.31 | liable | even old 2.6 wont work with new udev |
| 15:13.32 | Douglas52392 | where should i install grub? the hard drive, hda, or a specific partition? |
| 15:13.43 | xeihin | guys is it safe to edit /root/cron with nano ? or I need to use crontab -e ? |
| 15:13.50 | shogunx | Douglas52392, mbr, if possible |
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| 15:13.57 | Douglas52392 | thats hda, right? |
| 15:13.58 | shogunx | hda |
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| 15:14.06 | liable | xeihin: you have a /root/cron directory? |
| 15:14.09 | MangosDebian | liable: http://picpaste.com/liable.jpg |
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| 15:14.21 | xeihin | libable I have a /root/cron file |
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| 15:14.39 | HardDisk_WP | what is apt-get autoremove? |
| 15:15.14 | Douglas52392 | i installed grub on mbr, but it didnt work |
| 15:15.14 | liable | MangosDebian: theres isnt even a goat in that picture! |
| 15:15.19 | xeihin | liable I have a /root/cron file |
| 15:15.27 | shogunx | HardDisk_WP, gets rid of unneeded deps, iirc. |
| 15:15.31 | utopia_ | hm still no good, i'm trying to java & the java web plugin via apt-get but its telling me it is only refered to by another package |
| 15:15.33 | MangosDebian | liable: sorry :( |
| 15:15.38 | utopia_ | and could have been made obsolete ? :\ |
| 15:15.45 | liable | MangosDebian: what the fuck is it anyway? |
| 15:15.49 | Baktaah | This sucked, I couldnt get Live CD to boot, got a tty job error, so I used the alternative CD, then when I installed it I just got a black screen when linux booted, so I got into bash/rec mode and reconfigured XORG, however when finally getting into Ubuntu the resolution was horrible and my wlan/lan didnt work, and so didnt the sound. I got Nvidia 8600m, realtek 7.1 sound, with Intel 300 mbit N wifi card. |
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| 15:16.16 | Douglas52392 | could another livecd for another os install grub? |
| 15:16.20 | shogunx | !ubuntu |
| 15:16.20 | dpkg | yes, ubuntu is <based on debian>. Still, it has its own packages which are different and they have their own bugs and different ways of working that are unique to ubuntu. If we give you advice here, we could break your system more than it already is. So please, ask #ubuntu - See also <based on debian caveats>. |
| 15:16.21 | HardDisk_WP | shogunx, yes, it shows me libraries...but from where does apt-get know I surely doint need 'em anymore? |
| 15:16.23 | MangosDebian | liable: a dot anytime you said something in that hour |
| 15:16.30 | stoned | !ping |
| 15:16.30 | dpkg | pong |
| 15:16.38 | xeihin | guys is it safe to edit /root/cron with nano ? or I need to use crontab -e ? |
| 15:16.39 | freepenguin | www.freepenguin.it/index-en.html |
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| 15:16.42 | liable | MangosDebian: you have way too much time on your hands :P |
| 15:16.43 | Douglas52392 | i have a ubuntu cd right next to me, ill try that |
| 15:16.54 | sharaf | MangosDebian |
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| 15:17.08 | shogunx | stoned! how are you? |
| 15:17.08 | dpkg | shogunx: peachy |
| 15:17.09 | Serge378 | liable: udev is not being upgraded, only the kernel and coreutils is. Would the old kernel still work ok with the new coreutils? |
| 15:17.23 | MangosDebian | liable: well, working on db, but I would like it to be done with perl+png instead of OOo and manual copy/paste |
| 15:17.28 | MangosDebian | sharaf: yes? |
| 15:17.30 | sharaf | MangosDebian: Hi, how do i install a 5 button mouse in gnome, right now only 3 buttons r enabled |
| 15:17.31 | stoned | shogunx: I am unwell, staying home. Long time no see |
| 15:17.48 | liable | Serge378: it should, yes. but i dont offer a 12 month gaurentee |
| 15:18.01 | MangosDebian | sharaf: wow, thats out of the blue. ask the channel |
| 15:18.13 | Serge378 | ok thanks a lot |
| 15:18.22 | shogunx | stoned, indeed. well, get better. take your medicine;) |
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| 15:18.41 | sha_ | xeihin, set nano as $EDITOR and use crontab -e |
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| 15:18.50 | sharaf | MangosDebian: Am new to dis, how do i ask the channel??? |
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| 15:18.59 | mosty | is avahi used for anything? or should i disable it? |
| 15:19.01 | xeihin | sha_ where can I set nano as $EDITOR? |
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| 15:19.26 | abrotman | mosty: zeroconf |
| 15:19.36 | abrotman | xeihin: /etc/alternatives .. man update-alternatives |
| 15:19.45 | sha_ | xeihin, EDITOR="nano" crontab -e |
| 15:19.52 | liable | mosty: i think its the evel thing that install msdns as well |
| 15:19.53 | mosty | abrotman, what is zeroconf used for? |
| 15:19.57 | liable | \iirc |
| 15:20.04 | sha_ | xeihin, and then put EDITOR="nano" in your .bashrc or sth else for future use |
| 15:20.06 | liable | mdns or whatever |
| 15:20.22 | abrotman | !zeroconf |
| 15:20.22 | dpkg | Zeroconf or Zero Configuration Networking is a set of techniques that automatically create a usable IP network without configuration or special servers. This allows unknowledgeable users to connect computers, networked printers, and other items together and expect them to work automatically. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroconf |
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| 15:20.50 | xeihin | sha_ there is a file /etc/alternatives/editor but it just have emacs $@ |
| 15:20.54 | mosty | i don't need or want zeroconf, but the java packages require it for some reason. will anything break if i disable avahi? |
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| 15:21.27 | sha_ | xeihin, please ask abrotman for that alternative-thing |
| 15:21.43 | xeihin | abrotman can you give me a hand? |
| 15:21.56 | sharaf | MangosDebian:how do i ask the channel??? |
| 15:22.23 | liable | mosty: i had to remove java, no way around it |
| 15:22.35 | liable | its a depends and fucking annoying it has it |
| 15:22.40 | Ronin | sharaf: just type your question |
| 15:22.43 | abrotman | xeihin: doing what? |
| 15:22.44 | liable | and i sont understand why |
| 15:22.48 | mosty | liable, well i will just disable the init script |
| 15:22.52 | xeihin | sha_ where can I set nano as $EDITOR? |
| 15:22.53 | abrotman | xeihin: man update-alternatives .. pretty easy |
| 15:23.02 | xeihin | abrotman there is a file /etc/alternatives/editor but it just have emacs $@ |
| 15:23.21 | sharaf | how do i configure a 5 button mouse, right now, only 3 of em r enabled |
| 15:23.22 | sha_ | xeihin, as said, in /home/.bashrc or similar or temporarily at the prompt with EDITOR="nano" crontab -e |
| 15:23.24 | liable | mosty: i guess that would work |
| 15:23.34 | abrotman | xeihin: update-alternatives --list editor |
| 15:23.53 | xeihin | tnks abrotman |
| 15:24.08 | abrotman | xeihin: but if it's a one-time thing .. do what sha_ said |
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| 15:24.38 | sharaf | abrotman:how do i configure a 5 button mouse , only 3 buttons r working now |
| 15:24.54 | Ronin | sharaf: just do as you did earlier, ask in the channel and be patient |
| 15:24.58 | abrotman | no idea .. my mouse has two buttons and a wheel |
| 15:25.08 | sharaf | abrotman:oh really |
| 15:25.10 | abrotman | and it just works(tm) |
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| 15:25.34 | sharaf | abrotman: anyways thanx for ur time, ne idea how i can get some info abt dis |
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| 15:26.22 | Ronin | abrotman: like reading a bloody text message |
| 15:26.28 | abrotman | Ronin: worse |
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| 15:27.25 | MangosDebian | sharaf: quebex12? vimalg2? |
| 15:27.51 | sharaf | MangosDebian: what the !@#$ |
| 15:27.51 | sha_ | sharaf, there is an 'option "buttons" "int"' for the input-device-section in xorg.conf |
| 15:27.59 | lindenle | are there ldap versions off adduser, addgroup etc etc? |
| 15:27.59 | MangosDebian | sharaf: why all the nicks? |
| 15:28.06 | MangosDebian | and 2 isps? |
| 15:28.24 | sharaf | sharaf:oh, it's so much easier to type, thats all |
| 15:28.26 | hs | In which Debian package would I find the "epstopdf" command, which I used to have on my system and now am missing? |
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| 15:28.47 | Ronin | sharaf: harder to read though, you have a full keyboard use it :) |
| 15:29.09 | sharaf | Ronin: oh ok, ok... will do... happy now? :) |
| 15:29.19 | jelly | sharaf: note that a wheel counts as two buttons, three if you can click on it |
| 15:30.03 | jelly | so X thinks that abrotman's "two buttons and a wheel" mouse actually has 4 or 5 buttons |
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| 15:30.13 | PythonNinja | hmmm |
| 15:30.16 | abrotman | jelly: say away from my buttons! |
| 15:30.17 | abrotman | stay |
| 15:30.19 | Noborusan | night to all. |
| 15:30.20 | PythonNinja | debian won't load my usb memory stick |
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| 15:30.25 | PythonNinja | or a usb mouse |
| 15:30.31 | sharaf | jelly: i have got 5 buttons and a mouse wheel that can be clicked , and i want to add seperate functions for them |
| 15:30.34 | PythonNinja | like doesn't give either power after boot |
| 15:30.40 | PythonNinja | what do i need? |
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| 15:30.58 | sharaf | jelly:so can that be done??/ |
| 15:31.18 | jelly | sharaf: so tell X you have 8 buttons first, restart X, then use something like xev to confirm that each button sends a different event |
| 15:31.19 | stoned | if it is front panel usb, make sure it is connected to the usb pins on the mother board |
| 15:31.26 | GrahamA | I love you all. |
| 15:31.31 | PythonNinja | stoned: they work fine |
| 15:31.36 | PythonNinja | it's on the back of a lappy |
| 15:31.44 | PythonNinja | i used the ports with no issues on mandrake |
| 15:31.53 | stoned | PythonNinja: modprobe usbcore? |
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| 15:32.04 | PythonNinja | i'm pretty sure it loads |
| 15:32.07 | jelly | sharaf: then it's all about your window manager or desktop environment's ability to do something with those events |
| 15:32.11 | sharaf | am using a gnome desktop now, where do i get this xev from??? |
| 15:32.11 | PythonNinja | i've seen it in dmesg |
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| 15:32.39 | xsdg | is there a ulimit that would limit the amount of memory a program can dynamically allocate? I'm running a program that tries to allocate lots of memory, but fails at some point (even though the machine has plenty left) |
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| 15:32.46 | sharaf | jelly: how do i tell X i have 8 buttons and where do i get this xev from??? |
| 15:32.50 | xsdg | I already set the max stack size to unlimited, but that didn't help |
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| 15:33.10 | abrotman | over ssh? |
| 15:33.11 | xsdg | sharaf: xev is in xbase-clients, I believe |
| 15:33.22 | xsdg | abrotman: asking me? |
| 15:33.56 | jelly | sharaf: you were already told where to configure the button number in xorg.conf by sha_, scroll up |
| 15:34.15 | stoned | jelly: sup |
| 15:34.21 | abrotman | xsdg: wait .. were you in .sg ? |
| 15:34.34 | jelly | sharaf: xev is a simple utility that reports X events, you probably already have it |
| 15:34.41 | xsdg | abrotman: singapore? nope |
| 15:34.47 | jelly | stoned: nothin much, yous? |
| 15:34.51 | abrotman | must have been x?v |
| 15:34.51 | stoned | install wormux |
| 15:34.52 | sharaf | sharaf: k, i will make this much simpler, i have a 5th button which now functions the same as the right mouse button, all i want to do is change that some other function, what's the simplest way i can do that??? |
| 15:34.55 | stoned | what |
| 15:34.59 | stoned | wrong term |
| 15:35.06 | stoned | jelly: sick as a wet dog |
| 15:35.17 | stoned | I might need to do see a doc |
| 15:35.19 | jelly | stoned: HEAL! |
| 15:35.38 | yangvnc | is there a way to specify "mtr" to look over 30 hops? |
| 15:35.40 | sharaf | jelly: i will make this much simpler, i have a 5th button which now functions the same as the right mouse button, all i want to do is change that to some other function, what's the simplest way i can do that??? |
| 15:35.53 | stoned | im out of mana ! |
| 15:36.08 | liable | groan |
| 15:36.11 | jelly | stoned: hm... encamp and rest, then |
| 15:36.23 | stoned | jelly: I'm working from home |
| 15:36.30 | jelly | or find a cleric/priest type |
| 15:36.34 | stoned | heh |
| 15:36.41 | stoned | I like rpgs |
| 15:36.41 | Ronin | work from home? now theres an oxy-moron :) |
| 15:36.50 | stoned | hey! |
| 15:37.01 | stoned | I have setup a vpn |
| 15:37.13 | stoned | I do monitor my techs from home too |
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| 15:37.25 | sharaf | jelly:uhummm.... |
| 15:37.27 | stoned | they like to sit around and watch youtube |
| 15:37.38 | shogunx | Ronin how about home from work? my company rents my house, and provides housing to employees and dependents... me, my wife, and child:) |
| 15:37.39 | Ronin | stoned: well if theres nothing broke ... |
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| 15:37.47 | Ronin | shogunx: nice |
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| 15:38.00 | stoned | shogunx: you have a family |
| 15:38.11 | stoned | damn dude, I thought you were just a child yourself |
| 15:38.14 | shogunx | stoned yep. wife and 3 year old little girl. |
| 15:38.17 | stoned | like 20 something |
| 15:38.21 | shogunx | 32 |
| 15:38.23 | stoned | damn man, awesome |
| 15:38.28 | jelly | sharaf: first you have to make sure X can distinguish the 5th button from the 3rd (right mouse), that's what xev will help with. After that, ask the gnome guys |
| 15:38.31 | shogunx | but i try not to grow up. |
| 15:38.33 | stoned | lol |
| 15:38.41 | Ronin | shogunx: tried that once myself, it wasn't any fun |
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| 15:38.56 | stoned | I'm having second thoughts about stuff |
| 15:39.01 | sharaf | jelly: i knew the gnome part was going to come up soon, anyways thanks for your time... |
| 15:39.12 | shogunx | Ronin its nice having the NOC and lab downstairs. |
| 15:39.16 | stoned | family wants me to marry this one paki girl, and even though its all good, I am just man you know.. cold feet |
| 15:39.29 | stoned | lab? |
| 15:39.34 | stoned | noc? |
| 15:39.36 | jelly | meth. |
| 15:39.37 | shogunx | :) |
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| 15:39.40 | stoned | you live on the top of your work building? |
| 15:39.41 | holzmodem | hi, i patched succesfull the 2.6.22 kernel to undervolt my pentium m 715 (linux-phc 0.3). But now how i can calculate the new vids? (new voltages are known) |
| 15:39.47 | shogunx | not a meth lab. hack lab. |
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| 15:39.50 | stoned | dude thats awesome |
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| 15:40.02 | jelly | shogunx: there goes easy money! |
| 15:40.03 | Ronin | stoned: not really, how do you get away if you live above work? |
| 15:40.06 | stoned | I would love to live atop where I worked, if I worked over a NOC |
| 15:40.13 | shogunx | jelly haha |
| 15:40.15 | Daniel_Kyo | hello |
| 15:40.17 | stoned | dude, thats my life |
| 15:40.26 | stoned | knee deep in networks/IT |
| 15:40.28 | Ronin | thats sad stoned |
| 15:40.35 | stoned | no it isn't |
| 15:40.37 | stoned | I love it |
| 15:40.43 | Daniel_Kyo | hello! Olá! Hi! |
| 15:40.44 | Ronin | work to live dont live to work |
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| 15:40.49 | liable | i wish caphuso was back |
| 15:40.49 | shogunx | stoned... its not a real noc, tho i do have redundant power. its more like a laundry room with racks instead of washing machines. |
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| 15:40.57 | stoned | shogunx: oh |
| 15:41.02 | stoned | thats not even an NOC |
| 15:41.02 | stoned | dude |
| 15:41.08 | PythonNinja | Ronin: you are ....? |
| 15:41.10 | stoned | c'mon don't mislead like that or i'll spank you |
| 15:41.11 | PythonNinja | like ho wold? |
| 15:41.20 | Daniel_Kyo | exist debian-br? |
| 15:41.25 | Ronin | !br |
| 15:41.25 | stoned | !br |
| 15:41.25 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 15:41.29 | Vart | how can I make automount of my hard drive so that any user can acess it? I've added string to fstab, everything works fine, but only for root |
| 15:41.39 | shogunx | stoned i call it the noc. should i call it the server room instead? |
| 15:41.48 | PythonNinja | what do you mean Vart? |
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| 15:41.55 | PythonNinja | if you add a users flag |
| 15:41.59 | PythonNinja | then anyone can mount it |
| 15:42.05 | Ronin | PythonNinja: quickly sneaking up on 43 |
| 15:42.06 | liable | no |
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| 15:42.16 | PythonNinja | and then it's just down to the privs of the fiels that happen to reside in that partition |
| 15:42.19 | PythonNinja | whoa |
| 15:42.22 | stoned | hey |
| 15:42.25 | stoned | whoah |
| 15:42.37 | PythonNinja | grrr, new keyboard |
| 15:42.40 | stoned | I'm 14, you can beat 14? |
| 15:42.47 | PythonNinja | i'm typing like a three legged donkey on LSD |
| 15:42.49 | Vart | PythonNinja I can mount it from any user, but when I reboot it mounts automaticly with right to acess only from root |
| 15:42.50 | PythonNinja | nah i'm 17 |
| 15:42.57 | shogunx | stoned i though you were more like 20 something. |
| 15:42.59 | stoned | oh yeh you're probably the youngest |
| 15:43.02 | stoned | I'm 26 man |
| 15:43.07 | Ronin | stoned: and that explains that live to work part |
| 15:43.24 | jelly | ... in base 16 |
| 15:43.28 | stoned | jelly: bs |
| 15:43.29 | stoned | heh |
| 15:43.32 | PythonNinja | and a professional network analyst |
| 15:43.39 | PythonNinja | i got really lucky |
| 15:43.41 | stoned | good for you |
| 15:43.48 | PythonNinja | Vart: don't have a auto flag |
| 15:43.49 | jelly | stoned: tis true, I'm 0x1f! |
| 15:43.51 | PythonNinja | ty :) |
| 15:43.54 | PythonNinja | haha |
| 15:43.59 | stoned | I am a professional overclocker. I put peoples machines in danger and get paid for it |
| 15:44.05 | PythonNinja | really? |
| 15:44.06 | stoned | its all about selling man, all bout selling |
| 15:44.10 | PythonNinja | that'd be soooo awesome |
| 15:44.15 | PythonNinja | i could do that for a living |
| 15:44.24 | PythonNinja | what do you offer in terms of gurantee? |
| 15:44.33 | stoned | I've been at this job that I just started for 3 weeks, I've already built 7 OC'd gaming rigs |
| 15:44.39 | PythonNinja | nice |
| 15:44.50 | stoned | I just ordered a few 8800 GTX cards and 20 sticks of 1GB ddr2 |
| 15:44.51 | PythonNinja | the support contracts from my firm scare me |
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| 15:45.04 | shogunx | i've been doing lots of soldering lately on this: http://gnuveau.net/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi |
| 15:45.06 | SlayerXP | overclocked, even |
| 15:45.08 | PythonNinja | it's like "if anything doesn't work for a few second, we'll give you our second born" |
| 15:45.23 | MangosDebian | PythonNinja: he gurantee's that if something goes wrong, you wont be able to find him at the same address to fix it :) |
| 15:45.24 | clove | help me im not able to boot debian after installing suse. Debian entry is there bu tit gives error 15 |
| 15:45.34 | PythonNinja | oh well that's good |
| 15:46.04 | MangosDebian | stoned: done anything liquid cooled yet? veg oil etc. |
| 15:46.07 | Vart | PythonNinja: but I want to have auto flag, I want my hard drive to work automaticly after boot |
| 15:46.16 | stoned | clove: error 15 means that the kernel can't be found |
| 15:46.24 | liable | azeem: i blame you for kicking out the old people and ushering in the new cool overclockers |
| 15:46.44 | clove | stoned: but i can see that all the files are there...what do i need to do plz help im missing debian :( |
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| 15:46.57 | azeem | liable: eh? |
| 15:46.58 | stoned | clove: paste your menu.lst somewhere |
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| 15:47.28 | Ronin | clove: use pastebin.ca and not inchannel |
| 15:47.37 | clove | ok |
| 15:47.40 | Quintin | Any tips for Unix desktop happiness? Latest thing I'm trying is openbox |
| 15:47.49 | stoned | clove: just make sure that the menu.lst entry for os contains the right file location for the kernel and ramdisk |
| 15:47.55 | PythonNinja | i've got SCO nix on a box in my shed |
| 15:47.56 | PythonNinja | it's ok |
| 15:48.19 | stoned | I have a cybernetic chip in my head and it runs debian gnu/linux |
| 15:48.27 | stoned | top that anyone? |
| 15:49.05 | PythonNinja | :P |
| 15:49.09 | stoned | where is your source? |
| 15:49.11 | xsdg | stoned: I just ran into the 4GB addressing barrier with an actual program that's working correctly? |
| 15:49.19 | stoned | and how can we build you from source? |
| 15:49.31 | stoned | xsdg: is that a question? |
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| 15:49.54 | xsdg | stoned: no, that's a response to your "top that anyone?" |
| 15:49.55 | clove | please see http://pastebin.ca/633245 |
| 15:49.56 | PythonNinja | stoned: building me is a timeconsumng and very persomnal process |
| 15:50.01 | PythonNinja | but a few girls have done it |
| 15:50.02 | Douglas52392 | should i be installing grub onto the root partition linux is installed in, or install it onto the MBR. i want to be able to boot into windows. |
| 15:50.07 | clove | stoned: http://pastebin.ca/633245 |
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| 15:50.24 | Quintin | Douglas52392: MBR, duh ;) |
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| 15:51.00 | stoned | clove: you're sure it is installed root (hd0,10) here |
| 15:51.57 | stoned | i need some soup |
| 15:52.19 | Rounin | Hello... I've been reading about Debian's non-free section, but in my sources.lst I only find main and contrib, and adding non-free doesn't seem to work... Could someone enlighten me? |
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| 15:52.33 | stoned | !non-free |
| 15:52.33 | dpkg | non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianistas would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there . See #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html Also ask me about "vrms" |
| 15:52.44 | Rounin | Thank you |
| 15:53.12 | Rounin | vrms... haha |
| 15:53.13 | Rounin | !vrms |
| 15:53.13 | dpkg | i guess vrms is The Virtual Richard M. Stallman for Debian GNU/Linux, now included with every fresh potato! Good for sniffing out those pesky non-free software... apt-get install vrms, or now more accurate than the real rms in some situations such as gdb-doc and emacs21-doc :) |
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| 15:54.51 | Rounin | I must have just added it in the wrong place; security instead of main! |
| 15:55.35 | clove | stoned: yes im sure its on hda11 |
| 15:55.54 | clove | stoned: i can see all my files from suse |
| 15:56.05 | Rounin | What's the deal wth Java being simultaneously GPLed and non-free though? There seems to be a sort of rift in the universe regarding this issue |
| 15:56.12 | harpal | can anyone know software called send_sms |
| 15:56.16 | Rounin | Is it the classpath that's keeping them back |
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| 15:56.29 | Rounin | Oh, here we go, a long license text |
| 15:56.33 | Rounin | Doesn't look very GPLed either |
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| 15:56.41 | harpal | or sending sms throught internet to mobile |
| 15:56.55 | marcuss | how do you install a deb package in console |
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| 15:58.05 | Ryushin | I use E17 for my WM. I can't figure out why every time iceweasel starts, it asks if I want to make it the default web browser. It doesn't matter if I choose yes or no. Where is it trying to write the answer? |
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| 15:58.14 | marcuss | how do you install a deb package in console |
| 15:58.27 | vorpal | !aptitude - marcus |
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| 15:59.47 | Ryushin | marcuss: dpkg -i |
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| 16:00.12 | marcuss | hmmm ty |
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| 16:01.16 | Douglas52392 | is there a floppy disk image or cd image i can download that will load GRUB off it? i can remeber once i had a GRUB floppy disk. where do i find such a disk? |
| 16:01.42 | MolePrince | Hello. When I try to run a dist-upgrade in lenny to 2.6.21-2-686 I get an error saying: yaird error: unrecognized line in /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= (fatal) What might be causing this please? |
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| 16:03.58 | Ryushin | Douglass52392: Are you trying to rescue something? Re-install grub on HD? |
| 16:04.04 | Supaplex | Douglas52392: you can install it from the groub command line |
| 16:04.11 | Supaplex | grub* |
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| 16:05.08 | Douglas52392 | i have not been able to install grub |
| 16:05.34 | Douglas52392 | my computer does not boot after i installed debian, it goes right to the intel boot agent and tries a network boot |
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| 16:06.48 | Eulex | did you install grub onto the right device or what device did you install it on? |
| 16:06.53 | Ryushin | Boot a rescue cd such a sysresccd.org or finnix.org, and use that to re-install grub. You'll probably need to mount your debian install as well before install grub. |
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| 16:07.28 | Douglas52392 | i have tried using the debian cd and a ubuntu livecd to fix it, but nothing worked |
| 16:08.39 | Vart | can I upgrade from stable to testing without reinstall? |
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| 16:09.24 | azeem | Vart: yes |
| 16:09.37 | Douglas52392 | im downloading sysresccd now |
| 16:09.51 | Vart | azeem: how? |
| 16:10.16 | azeem | Vart: do you use aptitude to manage your packages? |
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| 16:10.32 | azeem | Vart: also, note that stable isn't so bad and less likely to make you trouble |
| 16:10.39 | nuix | Vart, you can, just change /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:11.44 | Ronin | !tell Vart about stable->testing |
| 16:12.09 | Douglas52392 | once i download it, exactly how do i get my computer to turn on? |
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| 16:12.28 | Ryushin | Douglass52392: What is your experience with Linux? |
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| 16:13.00 | nuix | Douglas52392, use debian cd with some option to kernel to boot into your installed system |
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| 16:13.30 | nuix | Douglas52392, then use grub or lilo to install boot info to MBR |
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| 16:14.51 | palestinian | hi, someone can help? http://pastebin.com/m48b2579d |
| 16:15.02 | Douglas52392 | how do i do that? |
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| 16:15.32 | Ryushin | nuix: How will that work? Does the debian installer include a kernel that has everything compiled into it? |
| 16:15.33 | nuix | boot from cd |
| 16:15.47 | Douglas52392 | then what? |
| 16:16.07 | nuix | boot: linux root=/dev/sda? |
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| 16:16.34 | nuix | like that stuff, not exactly. you find something on net |
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| 16:17.23 | Douglas52392 | im using the netinstall CD |
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| 16:17.57 | palestinian | ok |
| 16:18.14 | Douglas52392 | is there a way to manually boot into it with the netinstall CD? |
| 16:18.18 | nuix | boot: linux root=/dev/sda? kernel=/boot/linux?* |
| 16:18.52 | palestinian | http://pastebin.com/m48b2579d someone can tell me how to solve this error? |
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| 16:19.01 | nuix | use the kernel on the cd instead of linux |
| 16:19.36 | nuix | see the help when you boot from cd |
| 16:20.38 | Douglas52392 | thats not listed as a proper boot mode for the CD, i tried that and it went to the installer |
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| 16:22.03 | nuix | Douglas52392, or you can boot from cd and enter into the install process with expert mode |
| 16:22.12 | Douglas52392 | i can do that |
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| 16:22.38 | nuix | Douglas52392, then jump to the step installing booter |
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| 16:23.02 | nuix | Douglas52392, if grub does not function, try lilo |
| 16:23.29 | Douglas52392 | im not farmillure with lilo, can it boot windows? |
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| 16:23.52 | nuix | Douglas52392, of course it can |
| 16:24.19 | nuix | Douglas52392, add the following lines into /etc/lilo.conf: |
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| 16:25.36 | nuix | other=/dev/sda1 |
| 16:25.37 | nuix | label=xp |
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| 16:25.56 | nuix | sda? depends on your situation |
| 16:25.59 | kevinl-- | asd |
| 16:26.09 | utopia_ | anybody got exprience in installing sun's java plugin for iceweasal/mozilla |
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| 16:26.22 | utopia_ | gnu's one do alot of stuff i want it to |
| 16:26.32 | utopia_ | cant |
| 16:26.33 | kevinl-- | anyone familiar much with router firmwares? I have a linux based router that I am hacking on, I want to extract the firmware to a normal filesystem structure, its a .bin . Any hints? |
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| 16:31.06 | Douglas52392 | so i should try lilo? |
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| 16:31.26 | nuix | it's up to you |
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| 16:33.06 | Ryushin | Douglass52392: Do you have Windows and Linux on the same box? |
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| 16:34.16 | Douglas52392 | yes |
| 16:34.23 | Douglas52392 | installation of grub failed |
| 16:34.45 | Ryushin | Okay, so we need to get linux working first with grub, and then add a chainloader to get windows to boot. |
| 16:34.53 | Douglas52392 | "an error was returned while trying to install the initramfs-tools package" |
| 16:35.08 | Douglas52392 | ok so what do i do? |
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| 16:35.19 | Ryushin | Have you tried reinstalling debian? It's a fresh install right? |
| 16:35.35 | nuix | try alt+f2 to get into a shell |
| 16:35.48 | Douglas52392 | no, i already installed it |
| 16:35.49 | stew | Douglas52392: do you know what the error is? you will need either initramfs-tools or yaird no matter which of grub or lilo you use |
| 16:36.10 | Douglas52392 | how do i correct the error? |
| 16:36.26 | stew | Douglas52392: what error? |
| 16:36.46 | Ryushin | Douglas52392: Boot the sysresccd |
| 16:37.29 | Douglas52392 | "an error was returned while trying to install the initramfs-tools package" |
| 16:38.04 | stew | Douglas52392: yeah, but what is the error? are you in the installer? perhaps the console on 'alt-f3' would tell you what the error was? |
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| 16:38.36 | Ryushin | Douglas52392: I'll walk you through this. Boot the sysresccd. |
| 16:38.59 | Douglas52392 | ok i have to burn it first |
| 16:39.11 | Ryushin | Ok. |
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| 16:40.57 | jelly | !why is uswsusp not in testing |
| 16:40.57 | dpkg | uswsusp is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=uswsusp |
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| 16:45.54 | bgd | Wow. Never seen this many ppl on a channel before :) |
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| 16:46.50 | Douglas52392 | wow my cd drive picked a hell of a good time to die |
| 16:47.02 | bgd | anyways, one question: shouldn't "/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server status" check if "mountd" is running, instead of "nfsd"? |
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| 16:47.21 | Douglas52392 | im on my old computer, odvously considering the fact my new one is curetnly in a nonbootable state |
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| 16:48.23 | bgd | "/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop" is not "rmmod nfsd", it's just killing "mountd". But a "status" action is checking if nfsd is running, which is obviously true even if mountd is stopped |
| 16:48.26 | Douglas52392 | ryushin you still there? |
| 16:48.29 | TrueDD | Salut à tous |
| 16:48.30 | Ryushin | Douglas52392: If it isn't one thing, it's another. |
| 16:48.39 | TrueDD | hi all |
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| 16:49.18 | Douglas52392 | lol i know, i have to go get my dad's external CD burner, its so slow though because this is my old computer, and does not have a high-speed usb port |
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| 16:50.45 | Ryushin | Okay. |
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| 16:51.23 | stew | why does he have to burn a different cd if he already has one that is bootable? |
| 16:51.33 | blaamann_home | Is it possible to point some apps to glibc-2.4 such that they will use it instead of the glibc version in Etch which is 2.3 ? |
| 16:51.58 | nuix | stew, he is a new to debian |
| 16:52.28 | stew | nuix: ok. but why does he need a second bootable cd? |
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| 16:52.45 | nuix | stew, no idea |
| 16:53.22 | Ryushin | stew: It's a rescue CD and better suited to recover a system. |
| 16:53.33 | xlotlu | silly question... i don't have /dev/fd0 .. what else do i need to do besides modprobe floppy? |
| 16:53.38 | stew | Ryushin: and its going to be easier for him to install initramfs-tools with this cd? |
| 16:54.11 | Ryushin | stew: it will be cake. He'll chroot the system and apt-get initramfs-tools |
| 16:54.25 | stew | Ryushin: and why can't he do that from the install cd? |
| 16:54.41 | polyunix | hi guys. after recompiling the kernel i have to type # dhclient ath0 to receive IP each time after reboot. I use madwifi drv. How this can be rectified? |
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| 16:54.55 | Ryushin | Because, or at least the minimal install cd's that I use, aren't very well suited for it, and are missing a lot of tools. |
| 16:55.02 | stew | Ryushin: like what? |
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| 16:55.25 | stew | Ryushin: what tools would he need other than chroot? |
| 16:55.36 | Daniel_Kyo | hello? is the debian br? |
| 16:55.44 | Ronin | !br |
| 16:55.45 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 17:01.46 | funky | !es |
| 17:01.46 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 17:01.46 | Ryushin | stew: Well, there are file system tools that are missing, etc. It's actually a pretty crappy rescue environment when there are much better ones available. Or maybe I just do things the hard way. nuix was mentioning that the debian installer cd had an option to detect and mount a previous installation like the old redhat cd's did. I've never seen that option. |
| 17:01.47 | stew | Ryushin: the previous installation would have already been mounted in /target |
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| 17:01.47 | Douglas52392 | done burning the rescue cd |
| 17:01.47 | Ryushin | Yea, but I believe he's already rebooted. |
| 17:01.48 | rhombus | I'm having some weirdness with wget, and would like feedback |
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| 17:01.48 | Ryushin | Douglas52392: Is that true, have your rebooted since initramfs-tools failed to install? |
| 17:01.48 | rhombus | i'm trying to retrieve this URL: http://ftp.digium.com/pub/libpri/releases/libpri-1.4.1.tar.gz |
| 17:01.48 | rhombus | but I get a 404. When I go to the same URL in Iceweasel, it downloads. |
| 17:01.48 | Douglas52392 | yes |
| 17:01.48 | rhombus | I have a feeling something isn't being transmitted properly with wget, but I don't know how to debug it |
| 17:01.48 | nuix | Ryushin, it's also an option for newbies to fix system by using rescue cd |
| 17:01.50 | stew | Douglas52392: do you know what partition is / ? |
| 17:01.50 | Douglas52392 | no... |
| 17:01.50 | Douglas52392 | of corse i do |
| 17:01.50 | stew | Douglas52392: do you know what partition is / ? |
| 17:01.50 | Douglas52392 | sda5 |
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| 17:01.50 | Ryushin | Douglas52392: Boot the rescue CD. |
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| 17:01.51 | Douglas52392 | its all loadedx |
| 17:01.51 | ghatak | I am trying to rescue a remote system. I have booted from a sarge CD. and during that I have selected "Execute a Shell" option. Now when i do mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt/test ... I get the error, Mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/ failed: Invalid argument. |
| 17:01.51 | Douglas52392 | now what? |
| 17:01.51 | ghatak | I suspect that I dont know what the remote file system is, can i detect what file system is that i am mounting ? or is it something else that i need to specify ? |
| 17:01.54 | stew | Douglas52392: boot the install cd ; after you get beyond the 'detecting hardware', hit alt-f2 to get to a console. 'mkdir /target ; mount /dev/sda5 /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; chroot /target ; then run "mount -a ; mount /proc ; mount /sys" ; then run "aptitude install initramfs-tools" |
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| 17:02.18 | nuix | stew, awesome |
| 17:02.52 | stew | actually mount /proc ; mount /sys ; are probably redundant |
| 17:03.09 | Ryushin | stew: Grub is messed up too. |
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| 17:03.38 | Ryushin | Douglas52392: Is your entire linux install in /dev/sda5? Did you make any other partitions such as /boot? |
| 17:03.42 | stew | Douglas52392: if that succeeds, run "aptitude install grub && grub-install /dev/sda && update-grub" |
| 17:04.09 | Douglas52392 | everything except /home is on sda5 |
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| 17:05.00 | Ryushin | Douglas52392: Do you want to try what stew said? |
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| 17:05.30 | stew | i have no idea what kernel he is running now or if drivers for his hard drive have been loaded if he's not running the isntaller, of course |
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| 17:05.51 | Douglas52392 | ok ill try what stew said first |
| 17:05.59 | Ryushin | Okay. |
| 17:06.04 | Ryushin | I'll check back every now and then. |
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| 17:06.42 | stew | Douglas52392: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 17:06.42 | jmalicki | in etch, is there a way to get gnome panel to have two rows of window lists? |
| 17:06.55 | jmalicki | it's kind of disappointing that it went away |
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| 17:07.47 | jmalicki | oh n/m, i just had to give it more pixels, it's not an explicit setting. |
| 17:07.55 | Douglas52392 | kernel 2.6.20.15-fd07 |
| 17:08.32 | Douglas52392 | should i reboot with the install cd? |
| 17:08.42 | simonrvn | i bet B|nTaRa is a spam bot |
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| 17:08.50 | stew | Douglas52392: then i'd suspect the procedure i outlined will work with this cd, provided the driver for the hard disk controller is loaded |
| 17:08.51 | B|nTaRa | huh |
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| 17:08.56 | B|nTaRa | spam bot ? |
| 17:09.01 | Douglas52392 | it is, i can get to it |
| 17:09.11 | simonrvn | B|nTaRa: ok, guess not. sorry |
| 17:10.06 | Douglas52392 | ill try it |
| 17:10.06 | B|nTaRa | :P |
| 17:10.07 | nuix | stew, Douglas52392 may need more word to enter into X11 desktop :) |
| 17:10.07 | simonrvn | *blush* |
| 17:10.07 | stew | nuix: why does he need to enter into the X11 desktop? |
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| 17:11.07 | Douglas52392 | i started x |
| 17:11.09 | nuix | stew, he maybe need those stuff |
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| 17:11.29 | stew | nuix: he doesn't need x in order to install a kernel/grub |
| 17:11.33 | simonrvn | to do a rescue? |
| 17:11.42 | simonrvn | o_O |
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| 17:12.46 | nuix | stew, the usage of "mount --bind" is seen on smart mobile phone. |
| 17:12.46 | pocukrani | http://pastebin.com/m5a7b97a8 |
| 17:12.47 | pocukrani | what can be wrong? |
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| 17:13.17 | nuix | stew, i mean if he succeeds, he will need to install x11 next step |
| 17:13.38 | stew | nuix: we should worry about getting a kernel installed before worrying about getting x installed |
| 17:13.49 | stew | nuix: i have no idea what you are saying about "smart mobile phone" |
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| 17:14.52 | Douglas52392 | i cant chroot into /target. it says "chroot: cannot run command '/bin/zsh : no such file or direcory" |
| 17:14.54 | nuix | stew, just like a mobile phone based on linux system of window CE |
| 17:15.18 | nuix | stew, linux system or window CE |
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| 17:16.23 | stew | Douglas52392: run "chroot /target /bin/bash" instead |
| 17:16.47 | stew | score 1 for the rescue cd not making things easier |
| 17:16.51 | Douglas52392 | ok |
| 17:17.02 | Douglas52392 | that worked |
| 17:17.14 | stew | nuix: are you trying to ask me a question? i have no idea why you are telling me these things |
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| 17:18.21 | nuix | stew, i am doubt why Douglas52392 prefer grub instead of lilo |
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| 17:18.50 | Douglas52392 | should i use lilo insted? |
| 17:18.56 | nuix | stew, nothing, i mean --bind is a nice function. |
| 17:19.13 | stew | Douglas52392: no, you should probably use grub unless you have a reason not to |
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| 17:21.30 | Douglas52392 | i just ran aptitude install initramfs-tools, and its telling me that theres a configuration file all ready installed on the system, and wants to kno whether i want to use the allready installed one, or the one included with the download |
| 17:21.59 | stew | how on earth did that configuration file already get altered? |
| 17:22.04 | Douglas52392 | a /etc/console-tools/config is the file |
| 17:22.04 | nuix | Douglas52392, that should be the source of the trouble |
| 17:22.55 | stew | Douglas52392: i'd say keep your version |
| 17:23.03 | stew | Douglas52392: (by hitting N) |
| 17:24.22 | Douglas52392 | ok |
| 17:24.45 | Douglas52392 | done |
| 17:24.47 | Douglas52392 | now what/ |
| 17:24.49 | Douglas52392 | ? |
| 17:25.07 | stew | Douglas52392: what installed kernels does "dpkg -l linux-image\*" list ? |
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| 17:25.44 | Supaplex | why is this dhcpd.conf http://rafb.net/p/afSUbg93.html still yelling "Interface ... matches multiple shared networks"? |
| 17:26.01 | nuix | Douglas52392, you are the genius who make easy things to be complex |
| 17:26.21 | xXCarpXx | anybody has a clue how i can store about 4 GB of .passwd and .shadow files in a database? has anybody a good idea for a model? |
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| 17:26.50 | nuix | Douglas52392, apt-get install lilo |
| 17:26.53 | simonrvn | ldap |
| 17:26.54 | Supaplex | xXCarpXx: sounds like a job for ldap |
| 17:27.00 | xXCarpXx | k thx |
| 17:27.07 | nuix | Douglas52392, then, make some changes in /etc/lilo.conf |
| 17:27.11 | simonrvn | Supaplex: mindreader |
| 17:27.32 | stew | nuix: why do you think he should use lilo where he has to configure lilo.conf by hand instead of using grub which will be automatically configured when he runs update-grub ? |
| 17:27.34 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 17:27.36 | nuix | Douglas52392, run "lilo", done |
| 17:27.40 | Supaplex | simonrvn: gmta :) |
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| 17:28.04 | simonrvn | af too |
| 17:28.09 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 17:28.32 | Douglas52392 | ok what do i do? |
| 17:28.46 | stew | 12:25 < stew> Douglas52392: what installed kernels does "dpkg -l linux-image\*" list ? |
| 17:28.47 | simonrvn | great, some maroon named the manpage in xscreensaver the same as a game in bsdgames |
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| 17:28.59 | simonrvn | a manpage rather |
| 17:29.17 | Supaplex | heh |
| 17:29.20 | Douglas52392 | "no packages found" |
| 17:29.21 | Supaplex | ewps. :) |
| 17:29.32 | nuix | stew, that's simple and direct way |
| 17:29.57 | stew | Douglas52392: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686 grub |
| 17:30.06 | simonrvn | it happens. i'll file a bug when it's done |
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| 17:32.40 | Douglas52392 | it asks me to insert my install CD, but i cant eject the rescue cd |
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| 17:33.09 | stew | score 2 for the rescue cd not making things easier |
| 17:33.28 | stew | Douglas52392: are you on the internet? can you "ping ftp.debian.org" for instance? |
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| 17:33.38 | Douglas52392 | no |
| 17:33.58 | Douglas52392 | network-admin says ethernet connection is active, its plugged in, but nothing works |
| 17:34.20 | Douglas52392 | dns servers are listed |
| 17:34.31 | nuix | Douglas52392, so why u use net install if you cannot access to interenet |
| 17:34.49 | Douglas52392 | i could before |
| 17:34.58 | nuix | when |
| 17:35.06 | stew | nuix: when he was doing a netinstall |
| 17:35.07 | nuix | before chroot? |
| 17:35.16 | stew | Douglas52392: you either need to get yourself onto the internet with this rescue cd, or boot from the install cd |
| 17:35.29 | stew | nuix: no, before booting this rescue cd |
| 17:35.32 | nuix | stew, he use netinstall cd to install the system |
| 17:35.36 | stew | nuix: yes |
| 17:35.48 | Douglas52392 | im online, i put eth0 on a static ip address |
| 17:36.01 | stew | Douglas52392: so the network works now? |
| 17:37.09 | Douglas52392 | yes, but apt-get or aptitude no longer work |
| 17:37.31 | stew | Douglas52392: you'll need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list ; remove the cd line and add network mirrors: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 17:37.42 | nuix | Douglas52392, you should do something on /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 17:39.34 | Douglas52392 | now nothings working, "Xlib: connection to ":0.0 refused by server |
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| 17:40.14 | stew | Douglas52392: you can't easily start an X baseed editor from within the chroot, i suggest using "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 17:40.21 | nuix | Douglas52392, use vim or ? |
| 17:40.41 | Douglas52392 | i went back into the x from the rescue cd |
| 17:40.41 | stew | nuix: he wouldn't have vim installed |
| 17:41.02 | nuix | stew, :) |
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| 17:41.27 | Douglas52392 | theres one entry for sources, the cd |
| 17:41.29 | mythomaniac | I am trying to compile my linux kernel version 2.6.22.1, on debian lenny/testing, and I followed this walkthrough: http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_kernel_2.6_compile_debian but at boot up it states that it cannot load the kernel modules - what gives- also I am using make xconfig, not make menuconfig |
| 17:41.43 | stew | Douglas52392: yes, remove that one, and add network sources as described in: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 17:42.09 | themill | mythomaniac: can you be more precise about the error message for us? |
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| 17:42.31 | nuix | \msg dpkg sources.list |
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| 17:43.09 | simonrvn | / |
| 17:43.22 | mythomaniac | themill: let me redo the kernel and boot it up and then ill write it down - sorry - it will be a while ;( |
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| 17:43.45 | stew | mythomaniac: how did you actually install the kernel you compiled? |
| 17:43.50 | themill | mythomaniac: no problems. The more exact you can be about where in the boot process it was the better. Exact error messages help a lot. |
| 17:44.03 | simonrvn | mythomaniac: do you know if you have an intird there? if so, does it mention modules.dep near the beginning? |
| 17:44.08 | nuix | Douglas52392, deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main |
| 17:44.09 | simonrvn | initrd* |
| 17:44.16 | Douglas52392 | everythings frozen |
| 17:44.22 | stew | Douglas52392: don't listen to nuix please |
| 17:44.33 | stew | nuix: why do you want him to upgrade to testing? |
| 17:44.34 | nuix | Douglas52392, then apt-get update |
| 17:44.37 | stew | nuix: stop |
| 17:45.04 | stew | Douglas52392: what do you mean? can you move the mouse? |
| 17:45.11 | mythomaniac | stew: i created deb packages with the command fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image |
| 17:45.19 | nuix | stew, he will later |
| 17:45.29 | stew | nuix: he will what? |
| 17:45.43 | Douglas52392 | i rebooted |
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| 17:45.52 | mythomaniac | stew: then dpkg -i <the package name> |
| 17:46.00 | jintxo | hasanyone seen this error with postfix? It doens't show in google and I can't find exactly what it means (trying to set up a postfix to relay to a smarthost that needs my smtp to authenticate): postfix/smtp[19774]: warning: SASL authentication failure: Must see 'algorithm' once. Didn't see at all |
| 17:46.18 | mythomaniac | simonrvn: ill have to look at that |
| 17:46.21 | ladydoor | Hey...does anybody know whether there's any sort of OpenOffice spreadsheet -> (output format of choice) converter extant or in the works, but which *doesn't* require installation of OpenOffice? I've already found one that'll convert a .odt file to text, but haven't had luck on the spreadsheet front. |
| 17:46.25 | stew | mythomaniac: you might try "dpkg-reconfigure <thepackagename>" and make sure initrd creation works without error |
| 17:46.44 | nuix | stew, he will use testing when he is familiar with debian |
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| 17:47.13 | stew | nuix: then why would you recommend that he now start to upgrade his not yet completely installed debian to testing? |
| 17:47.19 | mythomaniac | stew: how do I "make sure initrd creation works without error" - what should I look for? |
| 17:47.21 | simonrvn | mythomaniac: ok. if the "can't find modules.dep" thing it is, then it's not a big deal, it's later on when the modules are actually trying to get loaded it matters |
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| 17:47.39 | nuix | stew, yes, that's a shortcut |
| 17:47.43 | stew | mythomaniac: just "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$version" and look for errors, if it completes successfully it should be ok |
| 17:47.45 | simonrvn | mythomaniac: you'll see it bomb out if it doesn't work ;) |
| 17:48.17 | stew | nuix: you should not recommend that people that you yourself claim are new to debian upgrade to testing |
| 17:48.18 | simonrvn | initramfs-tools makes this stuff so much easier |
| 17:48.36 | stew | mythomaniac: do you know if initramfs-tools or yaird was used to create your initrd? |
| 17:48.54 | nuix | stew, he will be used to that |
| 17:48.57 | asulao | hi. got a bunch of message in /var/spool/mail. how can I have sendmail re-process them to resend them again ? |
| 17:49.05 | stew | nuix: used to what? |
| 17:49.12 | petemc_ | asulao: formail |
| 17:49.14 | simonrvn | nuix: be quiet please. you aren't helping, you're just confusing him. |
| 17:49.17 | stew | mythomaniac: i assume you have "CONFIG_MODULES=y" in your .config? |
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| 17:49.28 | nuix | stew, testing instead of stable |
| 17:50.13 | nuix | simonrvn, hehe |
| 17:50.14 | stew | nuix: please don't recommend testing to people that are new to debian |
| 17:50.24 | simonrvn | i'm not laughing |
| 17:50.38 | themill | nuix: please stop. You're being a PITA. |
| 17:50.47 | mythomaniac | stew: should I be using the .config file from 2.6.18.4 - debian etch kernel? |
| 17:50.47 | nuix | stew, remember that he is not a new to linux |
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| 17:51.10 | stew | nuix: doesn't matter |
| 17:51.27 | asulao | petemc, thanks, I'll look at that. |
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| 17:52.53 | asulao | petemc, can you point me to simple command that would convert /var/mail/spool/usermail to /var/spool/clientmqueue format ? |
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| 17:53.33 | mythomaniac | stew: the 2.6.18.4 config file, that I am using as a base - does have "CONFIG_MODULES=y" |
| 17:53.53 | stew | mythomaniac: do you have either initramfs-tools or yaird installed? |
| 17:54.15 | Douglas52392 | for some reason i cant get back to x |
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| 17:54.36 | stew | Douglas52392: i don't recommend using that rescue cd, it seems to be making things harder |
| 17:54.52 | Douglas52392 | ok i will try the installer i guess |
| 17:55.08 | mythomaniac | stew: I have initramfs-tools installed, but I took it from etch - because for some reason it wasn't in the lenny repositories |
| 17:55.26 | stew | !info initramfs-tools lenny |
| 17:55.31 | dpkg | initramfs-tools: (tools for generating an initramfs), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.89 (lenny), Packaged size: 65 kB, Installed size: 388 kB |
| 17:55.37 | mythomaniac | hmmm |
| 17:55.56 | mythomaniac | stew: that is the version i have to then |
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| 17:56.18 | stew | mythomaniac: which? do you have .85g or .89? |
| 17:56.32 | mythomaniac | stew: .89 |
| 17:56.41 | mythomaniac | !info module-init-tools |
| 17:56.45 | dpkg | module-init-tools: (tools for managing Linux kernel modules), section admin, is important. Version: 3.3-pre11-4 (sid), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 288 kB |
| 17:56.49 | mythomaniac | !info module-init-tools lenny |
| 17:56.53 | dpkg | module-init-tools: (tools for managing Linux kernel modules), section admin, is important. Version: 3.3-pre11-4 (lenny), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 288 kB |
| 17:57.40 | nuix | an awful experience tonight, get to sleep now. |
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| 17:57.59 | mythomaniac | stew: i was wrong about taking a file from etch - it seems I have the right ones |
| 17:58.57 | pocukrani | http://pastebin.com/m5a7b97a8 |
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| 17:58.59 | pocukrani | what can be wrong? |
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| 17:59.50 | stew | pocukrani: don't use rpm to install software onto debian |
| 18:00.18 | Douglas52392 | ok im finally up |
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| 18:00.27 | Douglas52392 | install grub now? |
| 18:00.28 | pocukrani | how i can theninstall this flash layer |
| 18:00.37 | pocukrani | how i can then install this flash layer |
| 18:00.50 | stew | Douglas52392: did you get linux-image-2.6-686 installed? |
| 18:00.51 | pocukrani | i can`t looking videos |
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| 18:01.17 | jelly | asulao: there is no simple command to reinsert mail into sendmail's queue, but you can use formail (as suggested) to pipe each mail to eg. /usr/sbin/sendmai -oi -t (possibly you'll need to add other appropriate options) |
| 18:01.45 | Douglas52392 | apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686? |
| 18:01.56 | stew | Douglas52392: yes, but i'd suggest using aptitude instead of apt-get |
| 18:02.00 | Douglas52392 | ok |
| 18:03.26 | jelly | !tell pocukrani !about flashplugin-nonfree |
| 18:03.34 | simonrvn | -about |
| 18:03.39 | jelly | err |
| 18:03.41 | Douglas52392 | what do i add to the sources.list file again? |
| 18:03.42 | jelly | !tell pocukrani -about flashplugin-nonfree |
| 18:03.43 | simonrvn | :) |
| 18:03.52 | jelly | thinko |
| 18:03.53 | stew | Douglas52392: you are booted from the install cd? |
| 18:03.57 | Douglas52392 | yes |
| 18:04.16 | pocukrani | ty jelly |
| 18:04.21 | stew | Douglas52392: then nothing right now, you can add a network mirror : /msg dpkg sources.list ; but the packages you are trying to install are on the cd |
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| 18:08.34 | Douglas52392 | what do i type to install the kernel again? |
| 18:09.10 | stew | Douglas52392: aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686 grub |
| 18:09.56 | solemnwarning | I'm trying to compile gcc-defaults with pdebuild and the build is failing with this error: |
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| 18:10.06 | solemnwarning | dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot open upload file ../gnat_4.1.1-15_i686.deb for reading: No such file or directory |
| 18:10.15 | solemnwarning | Does anyone know what I should do? |
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| 18:11.24 | Daniel_Kyo | hello boys |
| 18:11.26 | pocukrani | jelly, which link i need to add in /apt/source.list ? |
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| 18:12.04 | Daniel_Kyo | i not work the mana world in linux |
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| 18:12.29 | simonrvn | translation please? |
| 18:12.41 | Daniel_Kyo | simonrvn, i? |
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| 18:12.53 | simonrvn | yes, i don't know what you mean by that |
| 18:13.00 | jelly | !tell pocukrani about non-free |
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| 18:13.24 | Daniel_Kyo | i not work the game the mana world in linux |
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| 18:13.31 | simonrvn | oooh |
| 18:13.33 | DJ-Marcuzz | hello |
| 18:13.38 | stoned | yo |
| 18:13.47 | simonrvn | sorry, i'm dense sometimes =) |
| 18:13.53 | simonrvn | hi stoned |
| 18:13.55 | jelly | pocukrani: the "if you MUST, add ' contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line" bit, add that to your debian mirror lines |
| 18:14.10 | Daniel_Kyo | jelly, is it for me? |
| 18:14.29 | stoned | howdy simon |
| 18:14.33 | stoned | jelly |
| 18:14.39 | jelly | Daniel_Kyo: sorry, is what for you? |
| 18:14.40 | DJ-Marcuzz | i just did an clean install with debian ech, started ssh, figured out that i could nog log in trough that as root, so i made an user, but i cannot login as that user trough ssh, why not? |
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| 18:14.54 | Daniel_Kyo | jelly |
| 18:15.10 | jelly | Daniel_Kyo: no jelly for you! |
| 18:15.14 | Douglas52392 | what do i put in my /etc/apt/sources.list file again? i still cant access CD |
| 18:15.22 | pocukrani | jelly, |
| 18:15.24 | pocukrani | deb http://ftp.si.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
| 18:15.28 | pocukrani | this will be ok? |
| 18:15.31 | Daniel_Kyo | i not play game the world of mana in the gnu linux |
| 18:15.33 | jelly | pocukrani: yup |
| 18:15.39 | stoned | Daniel_Kyo: that game kicks ass |
| 18:15.58 | jelly | pocukrani: also to deb http://security.debian.org ... line |
| 18:15.59 | Daniel_Kyo | steve, its roxs? |
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| 18:16.12 | stoned | Steve Urkel |
| 18:16.14 | DJ-Marcuzz | anyone? i badly need it |
| 18:16.14 | TiMiDo | hey how do i enable the tulip module to start up when the computer turns on |
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| 18:16.29 | stoned | put it in /etc/modules |
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| 18:16.35 | stoned | dun dun dun! |
| 18:16.48 | RockerMONO | hey stoned |
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| 18:17.00 | kevinl-- | there is a command to print readable text from a binary file.. anyone know what it is ? |
| 18:17.12 | stew | Douglas52392: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 18:17.20 | TiMiDo | stoned, how do you stop the gdm to start up/ |
| 18:17.35 | RockerMONO | is their a way to get the amount of RAM that a computer has, via the command line? |
| 18:17.40 | karsten | !nodm |
| 18:17.40 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 18:17.45 | Douglas52392 | installs not working |
| 18:17.51 | kevinl-- | Rocker: free -om |
| 18:17.52 | karsten | TiMiDo: ^^ |
| 18:18.02 | karsten | !tell Douglas52392 about doesn't work |
| 18:18.06 | kevinl-- | rocker: top |
| 18:18.25 | karsten | RockerMONO: free, top, vmstat, cat /proc/meminfo |
| 18:18.58 | pocukrani | jelly, i have butt apt don`t find this packet |
| 18:19.01 | RockerMONO | kevinl--: i just need the amount of RAM given in a string, so i can call it via exec() in PHP and write it out to a webpage ;) |
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| 18:19.02 | Douglas52392 | it says it cant find database for the linux-image program |
| 18:19.25 | karsten | Douglas52392: Post the *exact* error message, not a paraphrase. |
| 18:19.30 | jelly | pocukrani: even after running apt-get update or aptitude update? |
| 18:19.31 | karsten | !tell Douglas52392 about paster |
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| 18:19.45 | pocukrani | apt-get |
| 18:19.55 | Douglas52392 | i have x up |
| 18:19.55 | kevinl-- | RockerMONO: free | grep Mem | awk '{print $2}' |
| 18:19.59 | kevinl-- | thats in kilos |
| 18:20.02 | kevinl-- | kilobytes |
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| 18:20.02 | kevinl-- | i think |
| 18:20.13 | kevinl-- | cause mine says 775912 |
| 18:20.18 | kevinl-- | and i have like 768 meg ram in this box |
| 18:20.19 | karsten | kevinl--: Yes, KB |
| 18:20.21 | stoned | umm |
| 18:20.23 | stoned | free -m |
| 18:20.25 | stoned | perhaps |
| 18:21.00 | jelly | pocukrani: dunno, I suppose it could be your mirror doesn't have non-free. Try some other mirror. |
| 18:22.12 | Douglas52392 | i tried apt-get update, it says "unable to lock admin directory: |
| 18:22.13 | Douglas52392 | " |
| 18:22.25 | ladydoor | Douglas52392: that means you've probably got another instance running |
| 18:22.34 | Douglas52392 | how do i stop it? |
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| 18:22.38 | simonrvn | as root, or some other process has the lock, if you are root |
| 18:22.40 | karsten | Douglas52392: You're either not root or you've got another instance of apt-get, aptitude, or synaptic running. |
| 18:22.41 | ladydoor | Douglas52392: make sure that synaptic/adept/aptitude/etc. isn't running elsewhere. |
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| 18:22.44 | karsten | Douglas52392: Kill it. |
| 18:22.52 | pocukrani | jelly, now work |
| 18:22.55 | pocukrani | ty 4 help |
| 18:23.07 | karsten | Douglas52392: ps waus | egrep '[a]pt' |
| 18:23.15 | karsten | Douglas52392: Check what's in there, if it's what you want to kill: |
| 18:23.23 | themill | kevinl--: strings (if you're still looking) |
| 18:23.24 | karsten | Douglas52392: ps waus | egrep '[a]pt' | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill |
| 18:23.49 | karsten | Douglas52392: Otherwise, filter in/out any other programs that are going to get clobbered. Run as root. |
| 18:24.08 | stew | i seriously doubt he has another instance running |
| 18:24.22 | stoned | adept? |
| 18:24.26 | stoned | !adept |
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| 18:24.42 | pocukrani | jelly, |
| 18:24.44 | pocukrani | Download done. |
| 18:24.44 | pocukrani | md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz |
| 18:24.44 | pocukrani | The Flash plugin is NOT installed. |
| 18:24.48 | pocukrani | damn damn |
| 18:24.49 | stew | Douglas52392: this from inside the chroot while booted to the intall cd? |
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| 18:25.16 | Douglas52392 | 'no |
| 18:25.20 | Douglas52392 | from x |
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| 18:25.30 | Douglas52392 | it wasnt working there |
| 18:25.31 | stew | Douglas52392: from X? on the rescue cd? |
| 18:25.35 | Douglas52392 | no gnome x |
| 18:25.52 | stew | Douglas52392: do you actually booted your system? |
| 18:25.58 | stew | ^do^so |
| 18:26.15 | Douglas52392 | i used install cd, after chrooting into the installation ran startx |
| 18:26.29 | stew | so yes, this is inside the chroot |
| 18:26.36 | Douglas52392 | yes |
| 18:27.01 | Douglas52392 | why? |
| 18:27.04 | stew | well then yes, if you started x, i would guess he has another instance running |
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| 18:27.42 | stew | Douglas52392: nevermind, i just hadn't imaginged that you would have stared x from there. yes, you need to kill whatever intsance of aptitude / apt / dpkg /debconf dpkg-reconfigure is already running |
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| 18:28.47 | lindenle | Hi i made a presentation with pdflatex and beamer when i open it in xpdf it opens small (expands fine) but i would like it to open big any idea? |
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| 18:29.59 | themill | lindenle: the slide size in beamer is very small. kpdf and acroread both have a "full screen" mode that works well. xpdf should too |
| 18:30.15 | Douglas52392 | is there another way to get my computer to work? |
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| 18:30.38 | lindenle | themill: I know but some computer illiterate prof was giving me ahard time about it and I wanted to change it |
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| 18:30.48 | themill | lindenle: ah... I know that story |
| 18:30.49 | lindenle | themill: is there a way to change it in beamer? |
| 18:30.58 | ladydoor | themill: it's just xpdf -fullscreen |
| 18:31.10 | stew | Douglas52392: besides installing a kernel? no |
| 18:31.10 | lindenle | themill ladydoor I know that |
| 18:31.14 | ladydoor | lindenle: sorry |
| 18:31.37 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:31.51 | stew | Douglas52392: what problem are you currently having? |
| 18:32.03 | themill | lindenle: there should be a way of either changing the pdf itself (the pdf has metadata about default size to display at) or as an argument to pdflatex |
| 18:32.11 | Douglas52392 | i cant get the kernel to install |
| 18:32.19 | RockerMONO | how would i get the external IP of my /router/ from command line? |
| 18:32.21 | stew | Douglas52392: why not? |
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| 18:33.01 | Douglas52392 | i would assume because the CD is mounted during CD installer, but when i chroot into the hard drive manually, the system cant access the cd drive anymore |
| 18:33.02 | stew | Douglas52392: are you running aptitude as root or as another user? |
| 18:33.10 | lindenle | themill: ok i will look |
| 18:33.20 | stew | Douglas52392: then setup sources.list to install from a network mirror |
| 18:33.26 | Douglas52392 | root |
| 18:33.45 | jedir0x | :) |
| 18:33.45 | themill | lindenle: pdftk might be able to change the default size. |
| 18:34.08 | themill | lindenle: (I know the full version of acrobat can ... hmmm) |
| 18:34.09 | brandon__ | does anyone know what gcoe x is? |
| 18:34.19 | themill | lindenle: or ask on #latex |
| 18:34.42 | ladydoor | lindenle: If you read the manpage for xpdfrc you'll find info. on setting the default zoom level |
| 18:34.49 | ladydoor | lindenle: That's all I have, I'm afraid. |
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| 18:35.10 | lindenle | ladydoor: good idea but I would rather set it in the pdf itself |
| 18:35.31 | lindenle | themill: quick scan of pdflatex and pdftk showed no options I am asking on latex |
| 18:35.36 | themill | ladydoor: it's so when the presentation is sent to people running some other legacy operating system, it doesn't open up small |
| 18:35.49 | lindenle | themill: yep |
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| 18:36.04 | ladydoor | themill: I see. |
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| 18:37.45 | jelly | pocukrani: ah, the version in stable is not fixed yet. try using the version from backports: wget -nd http://backports.org/debian/pool/contrib/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.48.0.2~bpo.1_i386.deb && dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.48.0.2~bpo.1_i386.deb |
| 18:37.48 | Douglas52392 | whats the URL for the sources.list again? |
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| 18:38.03 | stew | Douglas52392: i've told you 5 times now. /help lastlog |
| 18:38.06 | albert_ | i don't know how, but i deleted my whole sylpheed-mail folder. is there a way to recover them? |
| 18:38.23 | replmanXYZ | Hi! |
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| 18:39.41 | themill | lindenle: I think there's something like \hypersetup{pdfpagemode=FullScreen} that you can use to tell pdflatex to do it for you. |
| 18:39.54 | replmanXYZ | when i want to have a shared folder between 3 or more linux machines, what's the best to choose? samba, nfs, ...? |
| 18:39.56 | themill | lindenle: Untested by me... at this stage... soon :) |
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| 18:40.47 | Douglas52392 | do i chroot into the installation first? |
| 18:41.14 | stew | Douglas52392: after you mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; yes |
| 18:41.17 | themill | lindenle: hey... that even works... kpdf goes straight to full-screen mode. There's probably other options that aren't fullscreen that you could try too |
| 18:41.19 | Douglas52392 | ok |
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| 18:42.13 | h3sp4wn | replmanXYZ: depends on your needs - I wouldn't use samba - if its only for light use just sshfs is fine |
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| 18:43.33 | replmanXYZ | sshfs sounds very nice# |
| 18:43.36 | szachista_ | hello |
| 18:43.37 | lindenle | themill: did you need some package too? |
| 18:43.55 | szachista_ | is there any "official" debian way of moving the whole system to the new hard drive? |
| 18:43.59 | szachista_ | i know about rsync |
| 18:44.11 | szachista_ | and |
| 18:44.13 | szachista_ | cp -ax /olddisk/* /newdisk/ |
| 18:44.13 | biz | hi, i'm using a socks5 proxy with firefox/iceweasel, where do the dns-requests go? are they answered using the dns servers configured locally or are they forwarded to the socks5 proxy? |
| 18:44.13 | bitprophet_ | dd? |
| 18:44.15 | themill | lindenle: none that wasn't already loaded in my presentation already... i just stuck that in at the second line and tried it |
| 18:44.15 | replmanXYZ | i would like to have my webservers to store their logfile on one global folder |
| 18:44.21 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.27 | szachista_ | yeah, and dd, which one is the most safe? |
| 18:45.11 | bitprophet_ | Depends exactly what you want to copy. 'dd' is bit-for-bit, so only good if you want to back up _everything_ and restore _everything_ (MBR, partition table, etc) |
| 18:45.13 | szachista_ | and do i have to switch to another distro/livecd to copy my debian partytion? |
| 18:45.13 | themill | lindenle: that's a bit rude. still the prof who's whinging is most likely to be using acroread under windoze, isn't he/she? |
| 18:45.24 | Douglas52392 | ok im finally getting somwhere. ran aptitude install linux-kernel-2.6-686 grub, it installed, now a dialog box came up: You are attemoting to install a kernel image, however, the directory /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-686 allredy exists" |
| 18:45.27 | replmanXYZ | h3sp4wn: Thank you! |
| 18:45.35 | bitprophet_ | If you just want your files preserved for a backup or whatever, rsync is good, or if you have a _lot_ of stuff, mounting and using cp w/ options would work too |
| 18:45.49 | lindenle | themill: yes, but I may also have found the settings for xpdf |
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| 18:46.01 | Douglas52392 | "stop install since kernel image is allready installed?" |
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| 18:46.21 | Douglas52392 | do i press no? |
| 18:46.23 | themill | lindenle: please share :) |
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| 18:46.35 | lindenle | themill: testing it now |
| 18:46.38 | szachista_ | bitprophet_: if i use rsync under working system, will it copy all files? |
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| 18:46.53 | stew | Douglas52392: no, you need to install the kernel, and there is no harm in installing overtop |
| 18:46.57 | stew | Douglas52392: so hit yes |
| 18:47.02 | Douglas52392 | ok |
| 18:47.06 | bitprophet_ | Most files, yea, I'm unsure how it would treat special files like /dev and /proc and stuff that's generally not to be copied :) |
| 18:47.16 | stew | (but this makes me question whether or not he really doesn't have a kernel installed as he claimed) |
| 18:47.35 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:48.29 | Douglas52392 | another message: /etc/console-tools/config allready exists, Y: install package maintainers copy, N keep your currently installed version |
| 18:48.30 | HardDisk_WP | does anyone know a program which converts AVIs to iPod useable video and where I can set the source aspect and the target aspect ratio? |
| 18:48.56 | afed | transcode |
| 18:49.05 | stew | Douglas52392: i still recommend keeping your copy like last time |
| 18:49.10 | stew | Douglas52392: which install cd did you use? |
| 18:49.17 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.19 | Douglas52392 | the debian one |
| 18:49.22 | stew | Douglas52392: which? |
| 18:49.31 | themill | lindenle: it might not be implemented in xpdf :( |
| 18:49.33 | Douglas52392 | the netinstall, same one i used to install it |
| 18:49.35 | HardDisk_WP | afed, i didnt find any usable examples on the net for iPod and that video stuff is far too complex for me |
| 18:49.49 | HardDisk_WP | i just want the vids playing in a good aspect ratio on the thing |
| 18:49.54 | stew | Douglas52392: how recently did you download it? |
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| 18:50.05 | lindenle | themill: im gonna file a bug with them ;) |
| 18:50.07 | themill | lindenle: I've also seen \usepackage[pdfpagemode=none,pdfstartview=FitH] |
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| 18:50.12 | Douglas52392 | i just installed the kernel |
| 18:50.28 | themill | lindenle: which would also be acceptable as it would fit to the window size. |
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| 18:50.48 | afed | HardDisk_WP: perhaps handbrake then? |
| 18:51.02 | stew | Douglas52392: have you run "mount -a"? |
| 18:51.11 | stew | Douglas52392: if so: aptitude install grub && grub-install /dev/sda && update-upgrub |
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| 18:51.20 | themill | lindenle: sorry... missing bits there \usepackage[pdfpagemode=none,pdfstartview=FitH]{hyperref} |
| 18:51.32 | Douglas52392 | do i press y or n for now? |
| 18:52.13 | stew | Douglas52392: to what question? |
| 18:52.24 | HardDisk_WP | afed, handbrake? |
| 18:52.29 | Douglas52392 | ok thats done |
| 18:54.41 | Douglas52392 | got an error running grub-install: "/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disk does not have any corrosponding BIOS driver" |
| 18:55.03 | stew | Douglas52392: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 18:55.45 | Douglas52392 | 2.6.18-4-486 |
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| 18:55.53 | Douglas52392 | why is it 486? |
| 18:55.55 | robajs | hi |
| 18:55.56 | stew | isn't that nonsense devfs? |
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| 18:56.12 | Danker | Hi |
| 18:56.27 | Danker | What's the point of having inetd running? |
| 18:56.42 | Douglas52392 | so what do i do now? |
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| 18:57.15 | stew | Douglas52392: is /sys mounted? |
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| 18:57.39 | Douglas52392 | now it is |
| 18:58.12 | Douglas52392 | now what do i do? |
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| 18:58.39 | stew | Danker: its the generic "internet daemon" which will listen on ports and forward connections to whatever services are configured in /etc/inetd.conf |
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| 18:59.24 | stew | Douglas52392: exit the chroot, unmount /target/dev ; chroot again, see if /dev is populated. if it is, try grub-install again |
| 18:59.30 | Danker | And if I turn it off?.. |
| 18:59.36 | Douglas52392 | o wait it says "does not hae any corosponding BIOS dre." |
| 18:59.53 | stew | Danker: then the services that inetd is serving will no longer be available |
| 19:00.43 | Douglas52392 | actualy that probaly says "drive" but my monitor cut off the last word |
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| 19:02.05 | Douglas52392 | what do i do? |
| 19:02.22 | keith4 | can someone using sid tell me if 'phpmsadmin' is packaged? |
| 19:02.31 | stew | keith4: /msg dpkg search |
| 19:02.39 | keith4 | thanks stew |
| 19:02.41 | stew | keith4: or /msg dpkg pdo |
| 19:02.46 | keith4 | pdo? |
| 19:02.53 | stew | keith4: yes, /msg dpkg pdo |
| 19:02.57 | Supaplex | 1 |
| 19:03.07 | Douglas52392 | how do i install grub now? |
| 19:03.13 | keith4 | stew: if i were running sid, i would use apt-cache search |
| 19:03.30 | stew | keith4: yes, i would too |
| 19:03.30 | stew | keith4: if i weren't i'd use pdo |
| 19:03.33 | keith4 | ah, gotcha |
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| 19:04.15 | keith4 | except.... "The Debian search engine has been disabled for now. We're working on it." |
| 19:04.54 | Supaplex | you can still use apt-cache search in any debian release |
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| 19:05.04 | Douglas52392 | now what do i do? |
| 19:05.04 | nite613_ | *sigh* every time I install a font things have changed since last time... Running testing. I throw my .ttf into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ and then what? I don't seem to have a font server to restart |
| 19:05.06 | stew | keith4: http://packages.debian.org/phpmsadmin |
| 19:05.12 | stew | Douglas52392: did you try my suggestion? |
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| 19:05.24 | keith4 | damn |
| 19:05.28 | keith4 | stew: thanks |
| 19:05.28 | Douglas52392 | how do you exit chroot? |
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| 19:05.35 | stew | Douglas52392: type 'exit' |
| 19:05.49 | Douglas52392 | ok |
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| 19:06.08 | Danker | Is there any use of portmapper? |
| 19:06.34 | abrotman | remove it |
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| 19:06.39 | Douglas52392 | dev is populated |
| 19:06.43 | Danker | Or this is only security vulnebirity? |
| 19:06.59 | abrotman | Danker: just remove portmap .. unless you currently use fam or nfs .. you'll be fine |
| 19:07.05 | loupgaroublond | hi |
| 19:07.10 | xand | dong |
| 19:07.11 | xand | erm |
| 19:07.12 | stew | Danker: if it were not useful and only a security vulnerability, trust that it wouldn't have been installed in the first place |
| 19:07.12 | xand | donk |
| 19:07.35 | xand | arse |
| 19:07.41 | Danker | I have nfs, but I want it only running on local network |
| 19:07.45 | eldowan | I'm having a problem with a certain subnet via the cloud connecting to my server over any port, UDP or TCP. My server is running sarge, and works flawlessly with ANY other subnet. The subnet is run by comcast around Houston, Tx. running iptraf to monitor live connection attempts, the server gets the initial S flagged packet to open the connection, but fails to return ANY packet at all. I have tried on multiple machines, 15 - 20 physical miles apart ( i know |
| 19:07.45 | eldowan | that really means nothing). What can I do, or try to look into to figure out why my server appears not to reply to packets from this network? iptables is using shorewall, and I have tried with a completely open iptables setting also. Any help is appreciated. |
| 19:07.56 | stew | Danker: then you need portmap |
| 19:08.18 | loupgaroublond | I want to force some python modules to recompile their bytecode for python 2.5, since they didn't seem to do that when they were reinstalled, is there an easy way to do this? |
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| 19:08.32 | Danker | Is there anyway to make it listen on specific address? |
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| 19:08.49 | stew | loupgaroublond: remove the .pyc files and they will be regenerated the next time they are used |
| 19:08.52 | Douglas52392 | it says "instalation finished, no errors reported. This is the contents of the device map: (fd0) /dev/fd0, (hd0) /dev/sda |
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| 19:09.11 | stew | Danker: yes, edit /etc/default/portmap |
| 19:09.21 | Douglas52392 | does that mean i can reboot and boot properly? |
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| 19:09.31 | stew | Douglas52392: you need to run "update-grub" |
| 19:09.33 | Douglas52392 | ok |
| 19:09.49 | juice` | is there any way to turn off 'conntrack_ftp: partial 227' messages showing in system log ? |
| 19:10.01 | pamuk_ | hello, is it wise to netinstall debian over pppoe without running a firewall (http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds05.html.en) |
| 19:10.04 | Danker | stew: Thanks ;) |
| 19:10.12 | stew | Douglas52392: then tell me, does " aptitude search '~E!~i' " return any results? |
| 19:10.16 | xand | eldowan: you might have more luck in ##networking |
| 19:10.25 | eldowan | xand: thanks |
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| 19:10.32 | stew | juice`: ask #iptables |
| 19:11.26 | keith4 | pamuk_: should be fine |
| 19:11.41 | keith4 | there are no ports open in a basic debian installation, afaik |
| 19:11.53 | keith4 | until you start installing services, anyway |
| 19:11.55 | Douglas52392 | well it doesnt say "event not found" |
| 19:12.13 | Douglas52392 | it doesnt say anything, so i think that means its there |
| 19:12.14 | loupgaroublond | stew, well, the problem is that the import (such as 'import rsvg') does not seem to work in python 2.5, i think i might have meant to make sure that they are installed in /usr/lib/python2.5/ |
| 19:12.17 | ladydoor | pamuk_: depends on your security needs |
| 19:12.18 | loupgaroublond | stew, but i will try that |
| 19:12.46 | pamuk_ | ladydoor: home user law student paranoia |
| 19:12.54 | ladydoor | pamuk_: If you're in a sensitive position and your system is actively at risk of compromise, I'd say absolutely not. If you're a normal use you should have little problem. |
| 19:12.59 | ladydoor | pamuk_: Hm. That's a toss-up. |
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| 19:13.15 | stew | Douglas52392: wait, did it say "event not found" or did it just return no results? |
| 19:13.24 | ladydoor | pamuk_: I just have to say do what makes you feel comfortable. |
| 19:14.11 | Douglas52392 | the first time i typed it it said "event not found" then i realized i typed a lowercase e, when i typed a capital E it returned no results |
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| 19:14.34 | pamuk_ | ladydoor: keith4 ok, since i have no services running before restarting into the new system i can live with it. thanks to you both |
| 19:14.42 | ladydoor | pamuk_: Good luck! |
| 19:14.50 | Douglas52392 | is that it? should grub work now? |
| 19:15.24 | stew | Douglas52392: "aptitude search '~e!~i'" should not have said "event not found either", it should have said, "unknown pattern", but whatever |
| 19:15.39 | stew | Douglas52392: does " aptitude search '~prequired!~i' " return anything? |
| 19:16.24 | Douglas52392 | nope |
| 19:16.34 | stew | Douglas52392: then i think you are good to go |
| 19:17.07 | simonrvn | aptitude search '~e!~i' |
| 19:17.09 | simonrvn | E: Unknown pattern type: e |
| 19:17.34 | stew | simonrvn: right, the "event not found' means he probably left off the single quotes as well |
| 19:17.41 | tarzeau | who wanted to get my webcam working on linux in here yesterday? |
| 19:17.50 | simonrvn | yeh, and getting caught by bash |
| 19:18.22 | Douglas52392 | it didnt work |
| 19:18.37 | stew | Douglas52392: be more specific |
| 19:19.00 | Douglas52392 | i pressed power on computer, took out install CD, and it says "no bootable device" |
| 19:19.07 | Douglas52392 | same thing it always says |
| 19:19.22 | stew | Douglas52392: is /dev/sda included in the boot order defined in the bios? |
| 19:19.35 | pingouin | how to handle fonts with debian Etch/Xorg ? |
| 19:19.48 | Douglas52392 | you mean at the bios setup seceren that you press one of the f keys for? |
| 19:19.54 | pingouin | how to find news fonts, add them ? where are they on system ? |
| 19:20.26 | stew | Douglas52392: probably. could be f1, could be esc, could be del, could be tab... |
| 19:21.01 | stew | pingouin: find new fonts: apt-cache search font ; add them? aptidude install fontpackage ; where are they? dpkg -S fontpackage |
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| 19:21.59 | simonrvn | manual* |
| 19:22.16 | Douglas52392 | its enabled |
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| 19:22.32 | tarzeau | pingouin: /usr/share/fonts/ usually |
| 19:22.53 | tarzeau | pingouin: but then there's many types of fonts for many types of software and use... |
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| 19:23.09 | tarzeau | pingouin: the vga video bios roms have fonts too :) |
| 19:23.20 | spike | hi, can anybody help me with apt-listchanges? I cant see how to run it from the command line |
| 19:23.35 | tarzeau | i'm about thinking to support rotated displays in linux vt console (with rotated fonts) |
| 19:23.36 | mythomaniac | well it seems i have successfully compiled my first kernel :) |
| 19:23.37 | spike | I hoped I could do like apt-listchanges pkgname, but that isnt an option :/ |
| 19:23.48 | simonrvn | mythomaniac: congrats |
| 19:24.03 | spike | and I dont have the .deb locally, sooo, any idea? |
| 19:24.20 | simonrvn | you don't run it yourself |
| 19:24.23 | mythomaniac | simonrvn, thanks for the help as well as you stew |
| 19:24.25 | Douglas52392 | what do i do to make my computer boot? |
| 19:24.47 | simonrvn | mythomaniac: np, i didn't do much though heh |
| 19:24.57 | mythomaniac | ^^ |
| 19:25.08 | Danker | How should I make nfs listen only on specific interface? |
| 19:25.11 | pingouin | stew/tarzeau : thanks |
| 19:25.17 | simonrvn | spike: it's not meant to be run by the user |
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| 19:25.38 | pingouin | tarzeau: i mean, how use all the packages of fonts i've apt-get installed, i dont see so many fonts in openoffice for instance |
| 19:26.01 | pingouin | i dont have any helvetica one for instance :/ |
| 19:26.02 | spike | simonrvn: well, how am I supposed to know the differences *before* installing the pkg? |
| 19:26.06 | spike | that's all I need |
| 19:26.18 | spike | I wanna know what's gonna happen when I install the update |
| 19:26.20 | yrjan | hmmm. Why is there a nvidia-glx package in both stable and unstable, but not in testing ..? |
| 19:26.37 | Douglas52392 | how do i fix my computer? |
| 19:26.42 | mythomaniac | kernel conflict? |
| 19:26.42 | simonrvn | spike: it gets run auto |
| 19:27.05 | mythomaniac | yrjan, kernel conflict? |
| 19:27.10 | yrjan | mythomaniac: hmmm |
| 19:27.12 | spike | simonrvn: I beg your pardon? |
| 19:27.23 | simonrvn | what i said |
| 19:27.32 | spike | makes no sense to me, sorry. |
| 19:27.40 | simonrvn | it's for changelogs, not diffs |
| 19:27.56 | spike | indeed, I meant diffs as in changelogs diffs |
| 19:28.01 | simonrvn | number 1. number 2, it gets run automatically. |
| 19:28.05 | spike | see what they updated/fixed/ etc |
| 19:28.30 | Douglas52392 | can i try deleting all the linux partitions and reinstalling it? |
| 19:28.48 | spike | simonrvn: I see it in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20listchanges, but when I do apt-get install pkg it still prompts me for a Y/N and says nothing about changelog |
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| 19:29.23 | simonrvn | it will only display it if you already have the package installed. you want apt-listbugs |
| 19:29.30 | Douglas52392 | would deleting linux and reinstall it make it work? |
| 19:29.31 | spike | ah |
| 19:29.33 | spike | cheers |
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| 19:30.43 | bill_ | what package has the include files for /usr/local/include? |
| 19:30.55 | azeem | bill_: none |
| 19:31.02 | spike | simonrvn: is there gonna be an entry in the BTS for *each* entry in the changelog? apt-listbugs looks like it's gonna indeed list all the bugs reported and fixed, not necessarily all the changes |
| 19:31.04 | Douglas52392 | hello? |
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| 19:31.24 | azeem | bill_: /usr/local/include is for the system administrator to use, no Debian package will ship files in it |
| 19:31.42 | simonrvn | spike: only if it's critical or some other importance level |
| 19:32.01 | simonrvn | otherwise it won't annoy you with extraneous stuff |
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| 19:32.13 | bill_ | erm, where are stuff like time.h, ctype.h etc |
| 19:32.15 | simonrvn | oh, changelog |
| 19:32.25 | spike | ok, I'll change my question then: how do I see the entire changelog from the installed version to the version I'm installing? |
| 19:32.28 | azeem | bill_: in /usr/include? |
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| 19:32.32 | Douglas52392 | my computer wont boot after i installed debian, it just goes right to the intel boot agent, i think grub didnt install correctly. What do i do? |
| 19:32.48 | bill_ | and what package are those in? |
| 19:32.49 | simonrvn | spike: changelogs should contain the bug number they close, it's debian policy |
| 19:33.07 | azeem | bill_: packages.debian.org has a search interface for that, at the bottom |
| 19:33.19 | simonrvn | spike: use you favourite pager ;). or aptitude's changelog reader |
| 19:33.23 | stew | Douglas52392: then either grub didn't install or you installed grub to the wrong hard drive or you didn't put the right hard drive in the right spot in the boot order in your bios |
| 19:33.24 | mythomaniac | anyone here using lenny and figured out how to get apt to install recommends/suggests via apt-config (if using lenny do apt-config dump)? |
| 19:33.37 | spike | simonrvn: I still dont see how to retrieve the changelog |
| 19:33.45 | spike | aside of downloading the pkg manually |
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| 19:33.59 | ladydoor | mythomaniac: You could use aptitude |
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| 19:34.20 | ladydoor | mythomaniac: alternately, check the apt.conf manpage |
| 19:34.33 | Douglas52392 | i only have one hard drive, and the boot order is just fine |
| 19:34.48 | simonrvn | spike: if it's already installed, and it displays the changelog, it'll display only up to what you saw last (i think). it won't show you the whole thing, that would be just useless anyway. |
| 19:35.07 | mythomaniac | ladydoor: true, but id like to use apt and ladydoor thanks -was lookin for the man page for it |
| 19:35.13 | ladydoor | mythomaniac: Oh. Sorry |
| 19:35.18 | ladydoor | mythomaniac: Good luck |
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| 19:35.22 | stew | Douglas52392: then you can either try to reinstall grub or try to install lilo |
| 19:35.37 | simonrvn | spike: when you install something, that 20whatever file gets called and runs it; then you have options you can do depending on what you configured it to do when you installed it |
| 19:35.52 | simonrvn | pretty simple really |
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| 19:37.14 | xsdg | bah; where are the old versions of packages again? |
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| 19:37.32 | stew | xsdg: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 19:37.33 | tarzeau | archive.debian.org |
| 19:37.58 | xsdg | tarzeau: yeah, thanks |
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| 19:38.09 | Douglas52392 | whenever i try to install grub off debian cd it says "an error occured installing initramfs" and fails |
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| 19:38.32 | stew | Douglas52392: hit alt-f3 and tell us what the error is |
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| 19:39.07 | semprix | guys im on wheel group how do i set myself to be able to issue the command shutdown |
| 19:39.43 | ladydoor | semprix: using sudo? |
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| 19:39.56 | abrotman | did you set upt he wheel group at all ? |
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| 19:40.28 | Minataku | I got SunOS 4.1.4 installed on my SPARCstation 10 |
| 19:40.38 | simonrvn | good for you |
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| 19:40.46 | Minataku | I think the SPARCstation LX has a bad SCSI adaptor |
| 19:40.51 | abrotman | Minataku: that's a bit old |
| 19:41.04 | simonrvn | a bit? ;) |
| 19:41.04 | Minataku | abrotman: I'm a collector, both HW and SW |
| 19:41.20 | Minataku | What's the point to collecting it if you don't use it, right? :3 |
| 19:41.43 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 19:41.55 | abrotman | Minataku: well .. except a newer version of sunos/solaris probably runs ont hat |
| 19:42.07 | Minataku | It does |
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| 19:42.17 | Minataku | But then I have a machine running Solaris already |
| 19:42.25 | Minataku | BTW, 4.1.4 the last version of SunOS |
| 19:42.27 | abrotman | Solaris is SunOS |
| 19:42.36 | Minataku | abrotman: Solaris != SunOS |
| 19:42.39 | abrotman | Solaris 2.7 is SunOS 5.7 |
| 19:42.41 | Minataku | SunOS is PART of Solaris |
| 19:42.42 | abrotman | etc |
| 19:42.50 | abrotman | right .. so it wans't the last version of SunOS |
| 19:42.50 | stew | its off-topic anyway |
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| 19:43.03 | Minataku | abrotman: It was the last version to be called, as a whole, SunOS |
| 19:43.18 | Minataku | It was also the last version to be based on a BSD core |
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| 19:43.21 | stew | Minataku: abrotman: please take the discussion to #solaris or #sunos |
| 19:43.31 | Minataku | While Solaris 2.X is based on System V |
| 19:43.53 | skyde | some onw know a reverse proxy |
| 19:44.19 | skyde | i have 1 public ip but i would like to dispatch ftp connexion to diferent physical internal server |
| 19:44.41 | simonrvn | that's not a reverse proxy |
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| 19:45.13 | simonrvn | you want port forwarding |
| 19:45.58 | skyde | no |
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| 19:46.13 | skyde | i dont want to forward all connexion to the same internal server |
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| 19:46.38 | simonrvn | uh, i didn't say that |
| 19:46.42 | Douglas52392 | it looks like the installer hangs when it finds that theres allready a /etc/console-tools/config file |
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| 19:47.12 | skyde | simonrvn : how can port forwarder do that |
| 19:47.42 | simonrvn | *port* forwarding. ftp-data and ftp-control are 2 ports |
| 19:47.50 | alvin_lee | Hi. I am trying to use $LANG as pt_BR.UTF-8. |
| 19:48.26 | alvin_lee | to do it I must to put export LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8 at /etc/profile right? |
| 19:48.29 | simonrvn | it's an iptables thing. you might want to consult there |
| 19:48.34 | simonrvn | #iptables |
| 19:49.28 | mythomaniac | ladydoor: it was easy all i needed to do was create a file called apt.conf and add these lines APT::Install-Recommends "true"; APT::Install-Suggests "true"; - and again thanks! |
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| 19:50.22 | Douglas52392 | i tried deleting the file |
| 19:50.30 | simonrvn | s/he just left |
| 19:50.53 | mythomaniac | ;( |
| 19:51.09 | simonrvn | alvin_lee: dpkg-reconfigure locales; it'll take care of that for you |
| 19:51.21 | Douglas52392 | i still cant boot my computer |
| 19:51.26 | simonrvn | you can leave a memo for them with memoserv if you like mythomaniac |
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| 19:51.47 | mythomaniac | simonrvn: how do I use memoserv? |
| 19:52.02 | simonrvn | /msg memoserv help |
| 19:52.02 | alvin_lee | thanks simonrvn I will try ;) |
| 19:52.10 | mythomaniac | thanks simonrvn |
| 19:52.50 | simonrvn | np folks |
| 19:54.15 | Douglas52392 | i cant boot my comptuer after i installed debian |
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| 19:55.51 | stew | Douglas52392: either try to reinstall grub, or install lilo |
| 19:56.03 | stew | Douglas52392: where did you download your install cd from? |
| 19:56.10 | stew | Douglas52392: was it a testing cd or a stable cd? |
| 19:56.32 | thelostbutler | hello folks is it bad when a fileystem check reports 64.1% non-contigous ? /dev/md8: 6117/33947648 files (64.1% non-contiguous), 26134327/67870560 blocks |
| 19:57.14 | Douglas52392 | i cant install grub or lilo |
| 19:58.27 | karsten | Douglas52392: Why now? |
| 19:58.44 | stew | Douglas52392: what happens when you try to install lilo? |
| 19:58.58 | karsten | thelostbutler: Yeah, that's a pretty high frag rate. How full is the filesystem? I'll wager > 95% |
| 19:59.04 | Douglas52392 | i dont know, i just found the reason why the installer hangs and fixed it, it said it was installing grub but it didnt work |
| 19:59.28 | stew | Douglas52392: where did you download your install cd from? was it a testing or stable cd? |
| 19:59.36 | _meh | reboot with a livecd and install grub? |
| 19:59.44 | stew | _meh: he did |
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| 20:00.45 | _meh | ok, I didn't see that |
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| 20:01.09 | _meh | Douglas52392: what kind of errors do you receive when you try to install grub? |
| 20:01.10 | Danker | Is there any way to make nfs listen on specific interface/address? |
| 20:01.18 | Douglas52392 | ill try to install lilo |
| 20:01.22 | stew | Danker: /etc/default/portmap |
| 20:01.28 | Douglas52392 | does allow dual-boots like grub does? |
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| 20:01.34 | stew | Douglas52392: yes |
| 20:01.37 | jae | Is there a tool for searching package tags (something like "apt-cache search --tags X Y Z" (which I wish existed)) |
| 20:01.38 | allix | hello, when i run `modprobe kvm-amd` my system crashes |
| 20:01.52 | eldowan | I've asked in ##networking, but have had no response. I'm having a problem with a certain subnet via the cloud connecting to my server over any port, UDP or TCP. My server is running sarge, and works flawlessly with ANY other subnet. The subnet is run by comcast around Houston, Tx. running iptraf to monitor live connection attempts, the server gets the initial S flagged packet to open the connection, but fails to return ANY packet at all. I have tried on |
| 20:01.52 | eldowan | multiple machines, 15 - 20 physical miles apart ( i know that really means nothing). What can I do, or try to look into to figure out why my server appears not to reply to packets from this network? iptables is using shorewall, and I have tried with a completely open iptables setting also. Any help is appreciated. |
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| 20:02.25 | thelostbutler | karsten: 255G 96G 147G . that's what df gave |
| 20:02.40 | stew | jae: debtags |
| 20:02.43 | thelostbutler | karsten: the system has been up for a year |
| 20:02.44 | databuddy | jae prefers aptitude? |
| 20:02.57 | dkr | eldowan: syncookies enabled? |
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| 20:03.09 | eldowan | dkr: I don't understand. |
| 20:03.18 | thelostbutler | karsten: that's about like 40% used |
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| 20:03.30 | Danker | stew: I configured it respectively but it still is seen from internet (nfsd) |
| 20:03.34 | dkr | eldowan: it's a linux kernel config option you can modify with sysctl |
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| 20:03.59 | jae | databuddy: no, apt-get ;) |
| 20:04.21 | stew | Danker: did you restart portmap? |
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| 20:04.40 | jae | stew: thanks, will take a look |
| 20:04.43 | didek | Hi! |
| 20:04.48 | Danker | stew: yap. Only portmap is hidden from outside |
| 20:05.04 | didek | How to i can change the DocumentRoot in apache? |
| 20:05.24 | didek | I try to do this, but it's wrong :/ |
| 20:05.39 | sebdah | didek: change the value of DocumentRoot |
| 20:05.41 | stew | Danker: what exactly can still be seen then? |
| 20:06.02 | Danker | stew: 2049/tcp open nfs 2-3 (rpc #100003) |
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| 20:06.16 | sebdah | didek: If you have tries that, check that DocumentRoot is not set multiple times |
| 20:06.30 | sebdah | didek: tried* |
| 20:07.15 | didek | sebdah: Only? |
| 20:07.23 | sebdah | didek: yeah |
| 20:07.30 | didek | All right. |
| 20:08.17 | abrotman | didek: there's a redirect by default |
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| 20:08.35 | didek | The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server |
| 20:08.37 | didek | :/ |
| 20:08.39 | didek | Damn. |
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| 20:08.56 | stew | Danker: restart portmap and the nfs server |
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| 20:10.02 | karsten | thelostbutler: Right. Interesting. |
| 20:10.05 | sebdah | didek: maybe something is redirecting to /apache2-default ? |
| 20:10.19 | Danker | stew: no effect |
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| 20:10.22 | karsten | thelostbutler: One option is to try copying files off, then back on, starting with larger files (which should be more fragmented). |
| 20:10.29 | sebdah | put index.html with some text inside at your DoucmentRoot |
| 20:10.29 | stew | didek: thats from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default |
| 20:10.46 | sebdah | didek: yeah stews right |
| 20:10.58 | karsten | thelostbutler: I'm not aware of tools which will give you specific fragmentation counts of files, though I think stat will give you what you need to know to find it... |
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| 20:11.18 | sebdah | but /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is the real file (not a sym link) |
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| 20:11.44 | Douglas52392 | where should i set up lilo? the mbr or the partition im putting linux on? |
| 20:11.59 | karsten | thelostbutler: filefrag(8) |
| 20:12.00 | Douglas52392 | i need to be able to dual-boot with vista |
| 20:12.12 | karsten | Douglas52392: Either. I'd do MBR myself. |
| 20:12.39 | karsten | Douglas52392: Dual boot via chainloader. See info lilo for how to do so. Install grub-doc for that particular info document. |
| 20:12.57 | xand | why not use grub? lilo is kinda deprecated isn't it? |
| 20:13.41 | karsten | Douglas52392: Erm, /usr/share/doc/lilo/examples/ |
| 20:13.52 | Douglas52392 | doesnt matter, it didnt work anyway |
| 20:13.55 | karsten | xand: Apparently Douglas52392 can't get grub set up properly, though I'm with you. |
| 20:14.01 | karsten | Douglas52392: What error message? |
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| 20:15.11 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody knows how to set up x11vnc to load it at startup on display :1 with GDM started on it? |
| 20:15.36 | Douglas52392 | theres no error, it says its set up and installation finishes, but i cant boot |
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| 20:16.04 | TrueDD | good night |
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| 20:16.27 | Douglas52392 | how do i get debian off and get windows to boot? |
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| 20:17.02 | Harpoiur | how can I see what filesystem some disc is using? |
| 20:17.18 | Kobaz | Harpoiur: if it's mounted... type mount |
| 20:17.37 | Kobaz | Harpoiur: if it's not mounted... look at the partition table... fdisk -l device |
| 20:17.37 | DARKGuy | Douglas52392: put your Windows XP CD, go to the recovery console and type "fixmbr" or "mbrfix" then "bootcfg /rebuild" and you're done. NOTE: You won't be able to boot Debian anymore if you use this method, but that's what I could understand from your question. |
| 20:17.51 | DARKGuy | Douglas52392: oh, and I ment to put your WinXP cd and reboot with it. |
| 20:17.58 | Kobaz | DARKGuy: that never works for me... ever |
| 20:18.01 | Douglas52392 | i have Vista and a vista disk |
| 20:18.14 | Kobaz | DARKGuy: fixmbr never does anything at all |
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| 20:18.30 | xand | Kobaz: fdisk -l won't show filesystem type |
| 20:18.30 | DARKGuy | Kobaz: sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't - but bootcfg does some magic to it |
| 20:18.43 | Kobaz | DARKGuy: yeah but bootcfg usually doesnt work either, heh |
| 20:18.54 | Kobaz | xand: you can get an idea |
| 20:18.57 | DARKGuy | Kobaz: xD then it's a job for a BartPE disk and "mbrfix" :P |
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| 20:19.06 | Kobaz | xand: eg: linux.... msdos... ufs... etc |
| 20:19.11 | polyunix | Hi guys. anybody knows what might be the problem? i use two kernels 2.6.18 and 2.6.18 - custom. When i boot with 2.6.18-custom, DHCP catch IP after 5 min of login, but with original 2.6.18 it receives IP on boot. |
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| 20:22.43 | kevinl-- | $20 reward to whoever can extract the files from this ".bin" firmware file |
| 20:22.49 | kevinl-- | its got a linux fs in it somewhere |
| 20:23.05 | transvaal_ | isn't jboss on apt's repository? (or is there a repository containing it?) |
| 20:23.16 | stew | transvaal_: no there isn't |
| 20:23.28 | stew | transvaal_: http://wiki.debian.org/JBossPackaging |
| 20:24.16 | h3sp4wn | kevinl--: ask #openwrt (if its a router) or #elinux or #edev |
| 20:24.34 | kevinl-- | thanks! |
| 20:24.42 | jae | Any recommendations for audio ripping/encoding? I was very partial to jack, but that's been screwed up (and then abandoned it seems) |
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| 20:25.36 | XtypeWriter74 | hi,i have debian stable with xfce4, every time i log in my home folder opens by itself and when i press terminal icon 2 terminal windows appear |
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| 20:26.04 | fungo | how do i install the java browser plugin in iceweasel? |
| 20:26.10 | fungo | i did apt-get install sun-java5-jdk |
| 20:26.16 | fungo | and it isn't listed |
| 20:26.20 | stew | fungo: you want sun-java5-plugin |
| 20:26.43 | transvaal_ | stew, do you know why?.. |
| 20:26.47 | XtypeWriter74 | sun-java5-plugin |
| 20:27.14 | fungo | Package sun-java5-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 20:27.43 | fungo | (i'm using http.us.debian.org with main contrib non-free) |
| 20:27.53 | stew | transvaal_: yes, becuase the jboss tarball comes with a lot of jars without source. the source for all of those jars have to be located and packaged and uploaded separately, and that hasn't all happened yet |
| 20:28.09 | semprix | how do i unmount my usb drive? |
| 20:28.24 | stew | transvaal_: and i don't know if it works with any of the java implementations in debian yet |
| 20:28.35 | stew | semprix: umount /path/to/mountpoint |
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| 20:29.21 | semprix | its automounted |
| 20:29.23 | transvaal_ | hm.. ok |
| 20:29.28 | semprix | and i dont know where is it mounted |
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| 20:29.52 | stew | semprix: what automounted it? |
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| 20:30.09 | semprix | stew, nvm mind i got it. cat /proc/mounts |
| 20:30.15 | XtypeWriter74 | !java |
| 20:30.15 | dpkg | Java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun partially released java as GPL on Nov 13, 2006 (rest expected to be released in 2007). There are other implentations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in etch/sid in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>, <non-free>. |
| 20:31.01 | stew | !java =~ s#in etch/sid## |
| 20:31.02 | dpkg | stew: OK |
| 20:31.18 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody knows how to set up x11vnc to load it at startup on display :1 with GDM started on it? |
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| 20:32.50 | helo | if i took a dump of an entire drive (dd if=/dev/hdc of=wtfbbq), is it possible to mount a paritition inside it using loopback? |
| 20:32.58 | XtypeWriter74 | solved the terminal problem |
| 20:33.11 | karsten | helo: Yeah. |
| 20:33.19 | karsten | helo: It's a bit twisted. |
| 20:33.58 | stew | helo: you need to use the 'offset' option to mount, you might want to google for how to figure out exactly what offset to use |
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| 20:34.21 | karsten | helo: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2005-08/msg00740.html |
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| 20:34.34 | karsten | helo: That's something I posted a ways back on the topic. |
| 20:35.10 | helo | cool, thank you |
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| 20:35.54 | Supaplex | helo: if you use fdisk, and change units, multiply the sector start by 512. eg, losetup -f -o $((512*63)) file |
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| 20:36.14 | karsten | Supaplex: Yeah, that was the trick I was trying to remember. |
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| 20:36.39 | karsten | helo: $(( <math> )) does integer math in shell. So you can compute blocksizes => byte conversion on the fly. |
| 20:37.03 | karsten | helo: A somewhat clearer explanation here as well: http://www.osdev.org/wiki/Loopback_Device |
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| 20:40.00 | helo | cool... |
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| 20:41.22 | BUMBACL0T | !fuck |
| 20:41.23 | dpkg | fuck is probably cool |
| 20:41.32 | XtypeWriter74 | http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Debian_Java_JRE/JDK_installation,_browser_plugin |
| 20:41.35 | streuner | !factinfo fuck |
| 20:41.36 | dpkg | fuck -- created by HardDisk_WP <n=Marco@wikipedia/harddisk> at Wed Mar 7 19:09:02 2007 (140 days); it has been requested 31 times, last by BUMBACL0T, 13s ago. |
| 20:42.07 | proqesi | where are the default console fonts stored? |
| 20:43.31 | pringat | hi, I'd like to restrict the bandwith traffic through a NIC jsut for a given IP range, while the other IPs shouldn't be restricted... which technique/application do you suggest me to use? thx |
| 20:43.36 | karsten | proqesi: /usr/share/consolefonts/ IIRC. |
| 20:43.47 | karsten | proqesi: iptables, traffic shaper |
| 20:44.33 | karsten | !tell pringat about traffic shaper |
| 20:44.39 | karsten | !tell proqesi about console fonts |
| 20:44.41 | Kobaz | pringat: qos |
| 20:44.50 | proqesi | karsten: thanks, found them :) |
| 20:44.59 | pringat | karsten: thx... I'll have a look... |
| 20:45.02 | karsten | proqesi: NP. |
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| 20:46.08 | pringat | Kobaz: that's the technique, isn't it? what about the application, or the way to do it? |
| 20:46.10 | Danker | Is there any way to make ident listen on specific interface/address? |
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| 20:46.41 | Kobaz | pringat: well there's many ways, but the built in kernel qos is very nice... check out a tool called mastershaper that uses kernel qos |
| 20:46.51 | Kobaz | pringat: you will need the iproute2 package |
| 20:47.53 | pringat | Kobaz: thanks for these keywords... now I need to read a lot about them... as you can image, this is my first attempt to face them... thanks again |
| 20:48.38 | Kobaz | pringat: it's not too bad once you get the basics down.. but it's a bit of a learning curve... that traffic shaper thing will just limit your entire interface... which isn't very useful most times |
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| 20:52.26 | pringat | Kobaz: I know limiting all the traffic is not the aim, but at the moment will be a partial solution which will give me some time to learn about better solutions. |
| 20:52.30 | ExxonValdeez | hello, i have a question on using the partitioning tool in the debian installer, i chose guided partitioning and it set up all the /, /home, /usr, /var, /tmp and swap space partitons but i cant figure out how to edit the size of the partitions |
| 20:52.58 | ExxonValdeez | is there a button i can press that will allow me to change the size? |
| 20:53.11 | Kobaz | pringat: shaperd is a slightly better version of the whole interface limit |
| 20:53.29 | svg | ExxonValdeez: I suspect the guided partitioning doesn't let you do that |
| 20:53.49 | svg | that's what manual editing is for |
| 20:54.06 | pringat | ExxonValdeez: I think 'guided' means that: you are given the size. |
| 20:54.32 | svg | got a quetsion myself: I just upgraded a box from sarge to etch, and expected udev to set up a /dev/disk/by-* structure, but it didn't. I'm not sure if that was to be expected or if I have a mising config? |
| 20:54.37 | ExxonValdeez | ah, yes, that makes sense, i just figured there might be a way to edit the size it suggested |
| 20:54.54 | azeem | svg: that structure is from devfs, not udev |
| 20:54.58 | azeem | I thought |
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| 20:56.05 | valdyn | svg: udev should do that |
| 20:56.07 | svg | azeem: don't think so, Ubuntu has this feature nd switched to udev about a year ago |
| 20:56.17 | pringat | Kobaz: I c "p shaper - Traffic shaper init script (cbq.init) for Linux", bufff, a lot to learn... |
| 20:56.26 | valdyn | svg: maybe you dont have udev. |
| 20:56.28 | Kobaz | pringat: yeah thats a good start |
| 20:56.44 | Kobaz | pringat: mastershaper isn't a debian package... google |
| 20:56.57 | svg | valdyn: thanks, I found some etc/udev/rules that should do the trick, but no cigar (yes, I do have udev) |
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| 20:57.20 | valdyn | svg: its on by default here. |
| 20:58.35 | pringat | Kobaz: I want to do that to give free access to my dsl to an open network we are bulding in my area, but of course, I don't want to loose my opportunity to use my connection, so I think that giving them the half of the bandwith available will be ok, and in the meantime I will have time to learn better approches. |
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| 20:59.32 | svg | valdyn: checkin a vanilla sarge setup, it does work there indeed - I must be missing something |
| 21:00.30 | Kobaz | pringat: qos is for you... seriously go check out mastershaper... it will take you at most 2-3 days to figure out... it has a great howto |
| 21:00.41 | valdyn | svg: if upgrading sarge->etch does not add this functionality to etch, then you need to look out for .dpkg-dist files in /etc/udev/ |
| 21:01.03 | pringat | Kobaz: bua, http://www.mastershaper.org looks cool |
| 21:02.16 | svg | valdyn: non default config files - which I expected as AFAIK sarga did not have udev (by default that is) |
| 21:02.32 | svg | there are nog dpkg files, I meant to say |
| 21:02.54 | valdyn | svg: udev is just as much default in etch, which its not. |
| 21:03.14 | pingouin | someone have a good url to explain fonts in debian Etch with Xorg ? |
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| 21:03.59 | valdyn | pingouin: 1) xorg knows nothing about fonts, 2) what's your real question |
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| 21:04.22 | svg | valdyn: checking my backups confirms me that my box had no udev when running sarge, the upgrade to etch pulled udev in |
| 21:04.52 | valdyn | svg: sure, probable |
| 21:04.54 | pingouin | valdyn: 1)ok, i did not know that 2)i wich to understand how those $*ùp$* fonts works with debian/etch/xorg |
| 21:04.55 | pocukrani | jelly, i still can`t install flash player |
| 21:04.58 | pocukrani | :) |
| 21:05.23 | svg | valdyn: ok, must have misunderstood you somewhere :) |
| 21:05.29 | jelly | pocukrani: even with the backported package? same error? |
| 21:05.44 | pocukrani | Download done. |
| 21:05.45 | pocukrani | md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz |
| 21:05.45 | pocukrani | The Flash plugin is NOT installed. |
| 21:05.55 | valdyn | svg: its not default in either, it may be pulled by upgrading to etch nonetheless |
| 21:05.56 | pocukrani | i have found this |
| 21:05.58 | pocukrani | http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/060fa7acb62d4658/6e9912e8e1ca8ddb?lnk=raot |
| 21:06.18 | jelly | pocukrani: which version of flashplugin-nonfree do you have now? |
| 21:06.41 | svg | valdyn: I checked another box Iset up from scratch with etch, and that one does have udev; I'd say udev is default in etch |
| 21:06.43 | pocukrani | how i can look ths? |
| 21:06.54 | valdyn | pingouin: fonts are 'used' by apps, and found by apps. Its up to the app. |
| 21:07.01 | pocukrani | this* |
| 21:07.24 | valdyn | pingouin: for instance, xterm finds its fonts entirely independent of how gtk2 applications do |
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| 21:10.38 | pingouin | valdyn: ok, but i want to know more about how the system handle them...and how i can install more fonts |
| 21:11.02 | valdyn | pingouin: copy them to ~/.fonts/ |
| 21:11.38 | pocukrani | jelly, i check it with about:plugins in address bar butt i don`t find it |
| 21:11.48 | pocukrani | jelly, then i don`t have it |
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| 21:12.37 | jelly | pocukrani: dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:12.57 | pingouin | valdyn: i got only : .fontconfig/ .fonts.cache-1 .foobillardrc |
| 21:13.08 | nelf | anyone here familiar with minicom (... and, er... hmm.. debian!) |
| 21:13.08 | pingouin | valdyn: opps, forget the .foobillard stuff ;) |
| 21:13.47 | nelf | c'mon... serial ports, null modem cables... |
| 21:14.29 | L0cKn | bye all ** |
| 21:14.29 | L0cKn | ;) |
| 21:14.36 | ExxonValdeez | bye! :) |
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| 21:15.01 | pocukrani | jelly, |
| 21:15.02 | pocukrani | flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.31.0.1 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer |
| 21:15.10 | pingouin | valdyn: what about defoma ? |
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| 21:15.53 | valdyn | pingouin: read the defoma package description |
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| 21:16.40 | valdyn | pingouin: you dont need to worry about it unless you need defoma support for your debian package |
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| 21:18.30 | jovans | there arte today a few broken packages in unstable? |
| 21:18.50 | jovans | wiht kde |
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| 21:19.09 | Supaplex | !poke damejiar |
| 21:19.29 | Supaplex | my bad. |
| 21:19.33 | Supaplex | !poke damog |
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| 21:20.06 | xand | O.O |
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| 21:20.14 | xand | what insolence |
| 21:20.22 | jelly | pocukrani: so, you didn't install the backported version? Try that first. |
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| 21:21.32 | jelly | pocukrani: download http://backports.org/debian/pool/contrib/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.48.0.2~bpo.1_i386.deb and install with dpkg |
| 21:21.40 | valdyn | pingouin: actually, you can 'defoma-user update'. However gtk nor kde need this. |
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| 21:22.48 | pingouin | valdyn: which part of system use it so ? |
| 21:24.37 | pocukrani | ty jelly |
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| 21:26.21 | ExxonValdeez | for the / partition do i need to set the boot flag to on |
| 21:26.21 | ExxonValdeez | ? |
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| 21:26.35 | svg | ExxonValdeez: it depends |
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| 21:26.51 | svg | ExxonValdeez: yes, unless you have a separate /boot partition |
| 21:26.54 | ExxonValdeez | okay |
| 21:27.03 | ExxonValdeez | i do not, so then i need to set it to on |
| 21:27.05 | ExxonValdeez | thanks |
| 21:27.11 | deeku | hello, i am working on replicating machines for a cluster using partimage... i've copied a working debian system to a new identical machine and the only weird thing is that instead of eth0/eth1 for the network interfaces it only has eth2/eth3... any ideas? |
| 21:27.54 | tarzeau | deeku: udev! |
| 21:28.07 | deeku | tarzeau: thanks for the tip |
| 21:28.07 | tarzeau | deeku: i have the same problem (with machines, then putting in gbit ethernet nics) |
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| 21:29.01 | deeku | tarzeau: where should i be looking? |
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| 21:29.26 | h3sp4wn | deeku: /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 21:29.27 | tarzeau | deeku: i didn't figure out, i've got messier problems to fix :) |
| 21:30.27 | h3sp4wn | deeku: You can edit it by hand and change them back or just remove it entirely and they will be re detected next time you boot (might be easier to just remove that file entirely before creating the partimage) |
| 21:30.43 | tarzeau | h3sp4wn: oh just remove that file? |
| 21:30.46 | deeku | oh it just automatically linked the old mac addresses... |
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| 21:31.00 | deeku | awesome thanks |
| 21:31.18 | pocukrani | jelly, butt... i still can`t look videos |
| 21:31.29 | pocukrani | and JavaStript it`s turn on |
| 21:31.30 | h3sp4wn | tarzeau: Yeah - its the autogenerated udev names - but its tied to mac address |
| 21:31.37 | tarzeau | h3sp4wn: thanks a bunch! |
| 21:31.53 | deadcat_ | is there something wrong with the ttf font packages? bold doesnt seem to work (on my openbox config) |
| 21:31.56 | jelly | pocukrani: it you installed it, you'll have to restart your browser |
| 21:33.00 | pocukrani | jeef, uupps i forget |
| 21:33.01 | pocukrani | :P |
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| 21:34.16 | svg | hmm, on udev: just found out my problem box does not have udev mounted on /dev |
| 21:34.36 | h3sp4wn | svg: Is it still using 2.4 kernel ? |
| 21:34.43 | svg | no |
| 21:35.42 | trendzetter | i am using postfix with dspam. I used the docs from the dspam-doc package to set up everything. What's odd is I am getting the following error in my maillog: connect to aria[/tmp/dspam.sock]: No such file or directory. Dspam is started and /tmp/dspam.sock is there when I checked it. |
| 21:35.47 | osmosis | im running dapper and im unable to get my network card to work. Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation EtherExpress PRO/100 Intelligent Server |
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| 21:36.14 | osmosis | linux 2.6.15 |
| 21:36.31 | azeem | osmosis: please ask #ubuntu |
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| 21:37.53 | svg | where does udev gets mounted on /dev? |
| 21:38.12 | azeem | svg: it doesn't |
| 21:38.32 | svg | how come it's not mounted here then :) |
| 21:38.51 | azeem | svg: because udev doesn't get mounted |
| 21:38.54 | azeem | it is not a file system |
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| 21:39.47 | svg | azeem: on a sarge box where udev works, I have following line when I issue a mount statement: udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) |
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| 21:40.05 | svg | seems lke udev gets mounted to me |
| 21:40.20 | azeem | svg: I have "tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs" |
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| 21:41.59 | svg | azeem= I just did a " mount udev /dev -t tmpfs" and restarted udev, and now all is like it should |
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| 21:42.23 | osmosis | where do I find the PCI Device ID ? |
| 21:42.34 | azeem | svg: that doesn't mean udev is mounted |
| 21:42.41 | azeem | osmosis: lspic |
| 21:42.45 | azeem | lspci* |
| 21:42.49 | osmosis | http://dpaste.com/15325/ |
| 21:42.54 | osmosis | i dont see the device id |
| 21:43.11 | azeem | osmosis: lspci has options |
| 21:43.16 | osmosis | thats lspci -vv |
| 21:43.29 | osmosis | ahh -n |
| 21:43.33 | peterS | osmosis: 'lspci -n' gives ID numbers instead of "EtherExpress PRO/100 Intelligent Server" |
| 21:43.55 | peterS | so it will say 8086:5200 or 8086:5201 |
| 21:44.09 | h3sp4wn | osmosis: lspci -nn (then you get both) |
| 21:44.15 | svg | azeem: nm, any clue what is missing? |
| 21:44.26 | azeem | svg: why do you think anything is missing? |
| 21:44.44 | themill | azeem, svg: udev likes to have an empty directory to dump the device nodes in. On debian, this is done by mounting a temp filesystem (tmpfs) over /dev so whatever cruft is still in /dev doesn't matter. |
| 21:44.59 | svg | azeem because I didn't have an udev populated /dev |
| 21:45.17 | azeem | svg: that might mean udevd wasn't running |
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| 21:45.43 | svg | themill: yes, so I understand. my point is that no tmpfs was moiunted on /dev |
| 21:45.55 | osmosis | i guess this is the "Server" version of the card. |
| 21:46.38 | peterS | looks that way |
| 21:47.21 | peterS | I wonder why it has its own PCI bridge, is there some sort of custom IOMMU going on? |
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| 21:49.06 | osmosis | hmm...i can find any information on linux support |
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| 21:49.57 | osmosis | is there a intel open source website for network card drivers? |
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| 21:50.14 | svg | themill: azeem: I think found something: /etc/init.d/udev-mtab manages mounting that tmpfs, but it exits when /etc/mtab does not exist |
| 21:50.30 | izanbardprince | I have a question, how many of the CD images do you need for a standard Debian desktop install? |
| 21:50.31 | osmosis | oss.intel.com |
| 21:50.36 | izanbardprince | I saw 23 images on their mirror |
| 21:51.02 | azeem | svg: why don't you have mtab? |
| 21:51.30 | svg | beats me; the other workign boex doesn't hav mtab either |
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| 21:52.09 | themill | izanbardprince: I only ever get the netinstall image (~140MB) and then pull the specific packages that I actually want when I'm doing the install. |
| 21:52.35 | themill | izanbardprince: it depends how you want to do it. /msg dpkg netinstall |
| 21:52.46 | izanbardprince | is there a large difference between Ubuntu and Debian? |
| 21:53.02 | azeem | yes |
| 21:53.36 | izanbardprince | in whose favor? |
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| 21:53.43 | themill | izanbardprince: |
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| 21:53.52 | themill | izanbardprince: what answer do you expect to that? |
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| 21:54.44 | ruben | Hi, what is the way to known the name of a key like 'ShiftMask' ? |
| 21:54.51 | svg | sorry, I take that back, working box did have an mtab - so yes, why Ido not have an mtab beats me |
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| 21:55.12 | izanbardprince | tangible benefits to a desktop pc |
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| 21:57.01 | h3sp4wn | izanbardprince: ubuntu has more crap started by default |
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| 21:59.33 | titii | helo anybody can help? i have now setted the htaccess password for the whole root of the my websites, but i would like to create an exclude for one website. I have also VirtualHosts created... how can i do that? the password works with .htaccess in the root |
| 22:00.50 | robboplus | The system is going DOWN to maintenance mode in 1 minute! |
| 22:00.55 | robboplus | HOW do i stop this? please help... |
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| 22:00.57 | robboplus | quick :) |
| 22:01.02 | robboplus | it was a mistake |
| 22:01.05 | karim | hi there |
| 22:01.08 | robboplus | got 30s |
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| 22:01.20 | SEcki | kill the shutdown process |
| 22:01.23 | titii | swtich off the computer :) |
| 22:01.34 | robboplus | huh... i just pressed ctrl-c |
| 22:01.46 | robboplus | and there is no shutdown process running... am i safe? |
| 22:02.55 | robboplus | thank you... there was no shutdown... |
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| 22:04.05 | titii | how can i do the exclusion for the website in htaccess password? thank you |
| 22:04.28 | titii | htaccess password from root |
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| 22:05.54 | ponyofdeath | anyone know off hand how i can use awk to '{print $1}' but subtract the last char? |
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| 22:07.12 | robin_sz | I don't suppose anyone here happens to know the author of rtorrent do they? |
| 22:07.32 | solemnwarning | Does APT not allow i686 packages? |
| 22:07.49 | azeem | solemnwarning: what are i686 packages? |
| 22:07.56 | solemnwarning | binary-i686 |
| 22:08.12 | azeem | why should it allow that? |
| 22:08.22 | solemnwarning | Why not? |
| 22:08.24 | azeem | if you're not using i686 as architecture |
| 22:08.52 | robin_sz | if anyone does know the rtorrent author, any chance you could do me a favour? |
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| 22:10.05 | Daniel_Kyo | hello |
| 22:10.08 | MoDaX | solemnwarning: i386 packages are good enough |
| 22:11.03 | Daniel_Kyo | MY MACHINE is I686 or 386 |
| 22:11.05 | Daniel_Kyo | ? |
| 22:11.23 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: what cpu do you have? |
| 22:11.34 | xand | how do we know what CPU you have? probably the former unless it's 10 years old |
| 22:11.50 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, pentiun 3 |
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| 22:12.08 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: then it's i686 as far as the kernel is concerned |
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| 22:12.26 | solemnwarning | bah |
| 22:12.34 | xand | solemnwarning: no |
| 22:12.45 | solemnwarning | debootstrap seems hardoded to binary-i386 |
| 22:12.51 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, right! you have the package I686 for the mana world? |
| 22:13.08 | fritz[] | which package holds mysql headers? |
| 22:13.18 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: sorry? |
| 22:13.22 | solemnwarning | The repo lists i686 as the arch and only has binary-i686, debootstrap ignores it and attempts to open binary-i386 |
| 22:13.22 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, my package 386 not work obviouly |
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| 22:13.31 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: what is "your package"? |
| 22:13.45 | robboplus | robin_sz why not just mail him? |
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| 22:13.52 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, Game The mana world |
| 22:14.03 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: is that a Debian package? |
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| 22:14.19 | azeem | solemnwarning: debootstrap boot straps the hosts's architecture by default |
| 22:14.23 | robin_sz | robboplus, probably not adviseable |
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| 22:14.32 | azeem | solemnwarning: you would have to pass the --arch option or something I htink |
| 22:14.35 | azeem | think* |
| 22:14.42 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, yes |
| 22:14.51 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem , but not working |
| 22:15.03 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: what is the package name? |
| 22:15.22 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, please wait... |
| 22:15.25 | Daniel_Kyo | now loading |
| 22:15.28 | Daniel_Kyo | heheheh |
| 22:15.51 | solemnwarning | Then I get a cryptic error |
| 22:16.03 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, tmw_0.0.23-1+b1_i386.deb |
| 22:16.05 | solemnwarning | "No such script" |
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| 22:16.15 | azeem | solemnwarning: syntax error on your part |
| 22:16.34 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: what is not working exactly? |
| 22:16.38 | squee | Is the a program that will convert numbers to word form? (1 to one) |
| 22:16.43 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, the game |
| 22:17.03 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: do you get an error message? |
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| 22:17.11 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, none |
| 22:17.22 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, not execute |
| 22:17.40 | robboplus | robin_sz what's wrong with that? rtorrent is a legal tool for spreading e.g. linux cd/dvd images |
| 22:17.41 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: did you try to run it in a terminal? |
| 22:17.48 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, install sucefull, but not working... |
| 22:17.51 | solemnwarning | E: unsupported variant |
| 22:17.59 | solemnwarning | APT needs less stuff hardcoded >_> |
| 22:18.07 | robin_sz | robboplus, anyone who produces code that traps ^c and ^z, doesnt respond to h, q, help or quit and doesnt put a useful clue on the screen how to stop the damn thing, is a bit "special" |
| 22:18.15 | azeem | solemnwarning: that might be from dpkg as well |
| 22:18.15 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, in the execute work |
| 22:18.19 | Daniel_Kyo | ? |
| 22:18.29 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: I don't understand, try to rephrase your question |
| 22:18.43 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, in the terminal i write twm? |
| 22:18.52 | robboplus | robin_sz oh rtorrent is written for geeks by a geek, nothing wrong in that |
| 22:19.04 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: yes |
| 22:19.11 | robboplus | robin_sz and really, the true power of it is tru scripts, that's how i use it |
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| 22:19.27 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, but in the debian package i not search for i686... |
| 22:19.32 | dondelelcaro | rtorrent does have a manpage, though. |
| 22:19.36 | robin_sz | no, it fails to observe several common *nix conventions |
| 22:19.40 | azeem | Daniel_Kyo: how is i686 related to this? |
| 22:19.44 | robboplus | that too, dondelelcaro |
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| 22:19.49 | XtypeWriter74 | i use debian stable with xfce4 , after log-in my home directory pops up in a window, i do not know why it does so? any ideas how i can change the option |
| 22:20.11 | robin_sz | dondelelcaro, tricky when you cant quit the program to read it though |
| 22:20.13 | norc | XtypeWriter74: uh, check your ~/.xinitrc |
| 22:20.14 | solemnwarning | How can I pass dpkg an option when using debootstrap? |
| 22:20.27 | norc | not exactly sure if you'll find something in there |
| 22:20.27 | azeem | solemnwarning: I don't think you can |
| 22:20.29 | Daniel_Kyo | azeem, wait... |
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| 22:20.35 | azeem | solemnwarning: you could the debootstrap functions |
| 22:20.42 | azeem | solemnwarning: +hack |
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| 22:20.49 | dondelelcaro | robin_sz: wait; you only have a single terminal? It's like 1978 all over again |
| 22:20.50 | XtypeWriter74 | thanx ;Ä) |
| 22:20.55 | XtypeWriter74 | ;) |
| 22:20.57 | svref | So what are we supposed to be using this week instead of iptables? |
| 22:21.25 | themill | Daniel_Kyo: the command will be tmw not twm |
| 22:21.29 | robin_sz | dondelelcaro, ssh'd into something else, somehwere else blah |
| 22:21.31 | dondelelcaro | svref: it's still iptables |
| 22:21.39 | dondelelcaro | robin_sz: screen! ;-) |
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| 22:21.54 | robin_sz | apparently it was ^q i needed |
| 22:22.11 | robin_sz | wtf was wrong with ^c and ^z like normal people? |
| 22:22.23 | svref | dondelelcaro: oops, I meant "ipchains", but I guess the answer is "iptables". :) |
| 22:22.31 | XtypeWriter74 | cannot find ~/.xinitrc |
| 22:23.22 | dondelelcaro | svref: it's been iptables since almost 5 years, man! ;-) |
| 22:23.38 | dondelelcaro | maybe even longer; I forgot when 2.4 came out |
| 22:24.22 | svref | dondelelcaro: yeah but "ipchains" seems to have stopped working when upgrading to etch. Backwards compatiblity rug-pulling out jerks that they are! |
| 22:24.50 | azeem | Linux isn't particularly backwards-compatible |
| 22:25.25 | dondelelcaro | svref: yeah, that's because etch doesn't distribute a 2.2 kernel anymore |
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| 22:25.33 | pb_werkin | still running a 2.2.x kernel? eek. |
| 22:25.37 | cafuego | azeem: with the right libs, most libc5 apps will run fine on modern distros. |
| 22:25.41 | dondelelcaro | (and that's what ipchains last worked on) |
| 22:25.52 | azeem | cafuego: that's GNU/Linux, not Linux |
| 22:26.04 | svref | 2.6.8 -> 2.6.18 seems to be the killer for ipchains |
| 22:26.12 | robboplus | why on earth does it take over 40 mins to cool down the beer |
| 22:26.21 | robboplus | any chances of rapid cooling? |
| 22:26.31 | themill | robboplus: try some liquid nitrogen... |
| 22:26.33 | dondelelcaro | robboplus: you're not cooling with supercooled water or liquid nitrogen |
| 22:26.33 | runev | liquid nitrogen? |
| 22:26.43 | themill | !great minds |
| 22:26.43 | dpkg | Great minds think alike, and apparently so do yours. |
| 22:26.43 | robboplus | sounds good but where do i buy it |
| 22:27.04 | dondelelcaro | robboplus: any welding company sells it |
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| 22:27.08 | svg | azeem: why "GNU/Linux" ? |
| 22:27.14 | robboplus | dondelelcaro oh really? |
| 22:27.15 | cafuego | pb_werkin: I run a 2.0.40 box |
| 22:27.30 | themill | robboplus: you can usually get dry ice from ice cream ppl too |
| 22:27.34 | svg | it's not like all sofwtare in a distro is from the Gnu project |
| 22:27.37 | robboplus | but then i don't need a beer brick |
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| 22:27.52 | robboplus | themill hm |
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| 22:28.36 | themill | robboplus: they use it to keep the ice cream cold for long periods of time.... no really. |
| 22:29.08 | robin_sz | someone care to suggest a useable bittorrent client? |
| 22:29.21 | robboplus | but how do they keep the dry ice cold? |
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| 22:29.31 | themill | robboplus: :) |
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| 22:30.21 | themill | robboplus: you need this one: http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/ |
| 22:30.26 | robin_sz | dondelelcaro, any welding company sells what? LN2? |
| 22:30.26 | Supaplex | pfm |
| 22:30.38 | robboplus | themill hm.. |
| 22:30.55 | dondelelcaro | robin_sz: yerp |
| 22:31.16 | cafuego | robin_sz: rtorrent |
| 22:31.23 | robboplus | themill damn nice |
| 22:31.35 | robin_sz | dondelelcaro, its used in welding? |
| 22:31.37 | themill | robboplus: I want one... |
| 22:31.54 | dondelelcaro | by welding company I of course mean "welding gas" company |
| 22:32.01 | robin_sz | ahh, OK |
| 22:32.11 | dondelelcaro | robin_sz: not usually, but it's a by product of geting the other gasses needed |
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| 22:32.21 | robin_sz | sorta, yeah |
| 22:34.10 | dondelelcaro | so almost anyone who sells helium, argon, neon, etc, also sells liquid nitrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, and sometimes even liquid helium |
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| 22:34.24 | robin_sz | dondelelcaro, only for those that produce their gases by fractional distillation. we actually produce our nitrogen another way, but I know what you mean |
| 22:34.24 | peterS | but don't use liquid helium to cool your beer |
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| 22:34.26 | Supaplex | don't use ice to cool active thermite :) aka /msg dpkg thermite |
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| 22:34.56 | ttl- | is there a tool that can extract LSZDD (MS compressed archive data) files ending in _ like blah.ex_ |
| 22:35.15 | themill | we use liquid nitrogen to keep the liquid helium cool at work.... it really does get strange sometimes |
| 22:35.31 | robin_sz | heh |
| 22:35.32 | robboplus | lol themill |
| 22:35.45 | peterS | ttl-: try orange, it might include that format |
| 22:35.49 | robboplus | and what keeps the liquid nitrogen liquid? :) |
| 22:35.51 | robin_sz | themill, go on, what do you use the LHe for? |
| 22:36.00 | dondelelcaro | robboplus: the liquid nitrogen does |
| 22:36.04 | rahul | robin_sz: to keep the servers cool |
| 22:36.05 | themill | robboplus: I'm actually serious. Superconducting magnets. |
| 22:36.05 | rahul | duh! |
| 22:36.12 | robboplus | damn nice! |
| 22:36.13 | dondelelcaro | themill: nmr? |
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| 22:36.18 | peterS | themill: errr, you keep He cool with N2? |
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| 22:36.27 | dondelelcaro | peterS: yeah, it's pretty normal, actually. |
| 22:36.33 | rahul | peterS: I'm sure it's just one part of the cooling system |
| 22:36.34 | robin_sz | themill, ahh :) ... I hope you collect the He that evaporates |
| 22:36.36 | Supaplex | so much for peliter junctions |
| 22:36.38 | themill | peterS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NMR_Spectroscopy |
| 22:36.49 | themill | peterS: well... it's thermal insulation |
| 22:36.59 | dondelelcaro | peterS: the inner dewar is He and the outer dewar is N2; high boiloff of N2 for slower boiloff of He |
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| 22:37.22 | rahul | yeah, you let the N2 carry off the heat |
| 22:37.23 | peterS | dondelelcaro: *nod*. so that the temperature differential for the He container is not so great. |
| 22:37.27 | robin_sz | He is a finite resource, once its released to atmosphere, its gone forever |
| 22:37.36 | themill | peterS: it's cheaper to use LN2 as a thermal insulator and save yourself some LHe. And no, we don't collect the He. |
| 22:37.54 | solemnwarning | WHY does debootstrap look in binary-i386 when you set --arch to i686?? |
| 22:37.59 | mmlj4 | sexist... what about she? |
| 22:38.00 | peterS | robin_sz: nonsense, just build an H bomb next time you need more |
| 22:38.03 | mgn | Some of my "Fn-keys" in Debian wont work on my Medion Centrino M laptop. Anyone who knows how to activate them?? |
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| 22:38.53 | peterS | robin_sz: or use ... what's that non-free web developer product ... oh yeah. cold fusion. |
| 22:38.55 | themill | robin_sz: there's lots coming out of oil wells and it's also a decay product from many radioactive isotopes. So it's not exactly finite. But it is worth looking after. |
| 22:39.01 | rahul | She would be atomic number 769, no? |
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| 22:39.46 | robin_sz | themill, I know the US gov collect it out of the texas gas fields, prior to sending it to consumers |
| 22:39.48 | themill | mgn: which ones? Do you get any messages in /var/log/messages when you press them? How about in xev? |
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| 22:40.14 | rahul | don't they get He out of uranium mines, too? |
| 22:40.21 | rahul | the alpha particles that get away |
| 22:40.35 | themill | rahul: sounds like a fishing story |
| 22:40.36 | azeem | alpha particles aren't He |
| 22:40.45 | themill | azeem: yes they are |
| 22:40.45 | rahul | azeem: they become He |
| 22:40.55 | azeem | themill: they are He++ |
| 22:40.56 | jelly | azeem: what's a few electrons between friends! |
| 22:41.05 | rahul | they are He++, at high speed |
| 22:41.10 | robin_sz | themill, but, basically, its not recoverable fromt he atmosphere, it goes upwards and away ... its finite resource, the price has gone up and up and up ... |
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| 22:41.20 | rahul | azeem: as I said. "that get away" |
| 22:41.25 | themill | azeem: that' something that they fix for themselves pretty damned quick |
| 22:41.27 | krazykit | and this is tangetially related to debian cuz of the game "atomix" |
| 22:41.31 | krazykit | it's prefect! |
| 22:41.39 | mgn | themill: Keys that work is brightness on/off and wireless lan. Volume, mute and the button to use with projectors wont work. I've tried xev. I only get a response when i press the mute on/off button. |
| 22:41.56 | themill | robin_sz: nod. Never did like He balloons at parties. Always felt a bit naughty. |
| 22:42.17 | solemnwarning | W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. |
| 22:42.26 | themill | mgn: then you're probably SOL. |
| 22:42.28 | solemnwarning | debootstrap has good error reporting -_- |
| 22:42.39 | mgn | themill: SOL?? |
| 22:42.47 | themill | mgn: shit out of luck |
| 22:42.53 | themill | mgn: sorry ;( |
| 22:43.20 | robin_sz | themill, I *thought* they werent doing helium ballons anymore in the US anyway? |
| 22:43.23 | mgn | themill: Im not convinced :D There is no problems when using ubuntu. |
| 22:43.25 | Apollodoros | hello |
| 22:43.26 | XtypeWriter74 | i use debian stable with xfce4 , after log-in my home directory pops up in a window, i do not know why it does so? any ideas how i can change the option |
| 22:43.46 | mgn | themill: So it must be possible to use the keys in debian too? |
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| 22:44.11 | jelly | mgn: installing acpi-support _might_ help, some of the laptops generate acpi events for those keys |
| 22:44.11 | h3sp4wn | mgn: so look at the ubuntu kernel source and build your own kernel |
| 22:44.19 | themill | mgn: if you can get some events from them then you've got a chance. But if there are no scan codes in xev and no acpi or setkeys messages then you've got nothing to work with. |
| 22:44.28 | solemnwarning | Does anyone know a way I can get USEFUL errors from debootstrap? |
| 22:44.29 | dondelelcaro | robin_sz: nope; still loads of He here |
| 22:44.42 | solemnwarning | --verbose is no use |
| 22:44.42 | robin_sz | right |
| 22:44.44 | themill | mgn: ubuntu might be using a different keyboard map or different xorg version which can help |
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| 22:44.47 | Apollodoros | Will KDevelop run on Debian? |
| 22:44.50 | rahul | the universe is what... 4% He? |
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| 22:44.57 | rahul | just send out robots to collect it :P |
| 22:45.02 | themill | robin_sz: maybe try H balloons instead ;) |
| 22:45.07 | rahul | heh |
| 22:45.09 | themill | Apollodoros: yes, quite nicely |
| 22:45.17 | themill | Apollodoros: in the package kdevelop |
| 22:45.18 | dondelelcaro | solemnwarning: strace will show you some, but it depends on what is failing. |
| 22:45.21 | Apollodoros | good |
| 22:45.25 | solemnwarning | W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. |
| 22:45.48 | mgn | jelly: acpi-support is already installed. |
| 22:45.49 | azeem | solemnwarning: look further above |
| 22:45.50 | Apollodoros | I must download one ISO DVD |
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| 22:45.57 | solemnwarning | It exits without an error message after the 5 attempts |
| 22:46.01 | jelly | mgn: there's also hotkey-setup |
| 22:46.06 | Apollodoros | It should br enough for installation |
| 22:46.16 | solemnwarning | Everything above is ok |
| 22:46.24 | Daveyboy | how do you specify every 5mins in crontab, for example , run a command every 5mins |
| 22:46.33 | dondelelcaro | Daveyboy: man 5 crontab; */5. |
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| 22:46.36 | themill | Apollodoros: you can also use netinstall if you want. /msg dpkg netinstall |
| 22:46.43 | robin_sz | coo, the US has a 425 mile long helium pipeline ... |
| 22:46.58 | mgn | jelly: installed too ;) |
| 22:47.05 | Apollodoros | netinstall is not always sure |
| 22:47.06 | peterS | is this pipeline suspended in the air somewhere, just for the fun of it? |
| 22:47.08 | dondelelcaro | solemnwarning: which version of debootstrap are you using? Unstable's recently has been fixed |
| 22:47.14 | solemnwarning | Stable |
| 22:47.15 | jelly | mgn: ask the ubuntu people, then :-) |
| 22:47.22 | themill | peterS: it suspends itself :) |
| 22:47.30 | Apollodoros | debian 4.0 is now stable? |
| 22:47.35 | dondelelcaro | solemnwarning: and you're debootstraping stable? |
| 22:47.39 | azeem | Apollodoros: yes |
| 22:47.40 | dondelelcaro | Apollodoros: it's been stable for a whiel |
| 22:47.42 | jelly | mgn: and remember to bring patches back! |
| 22:47.50 | themill | peterS: my grandad always told me he was going to use a skyhook for putting some shelves up.... |
| 22:47.56 | solemnwarning | I'm debootstrapping a minimal stable I built |
| 22:47.58 | mgn | jelly: Will do :) |
| 22:47.58 | rahul | jelly doesn't respond well to patching |
| 22:48.06 | Apollodoros | OK, so I will download it |
| 22:48.12 | jelly | rahul: not for jelly, for Debian |
| 22:48.22 | solemnwarning | It's got all the packages that pbuilder uses for its chroot |
| 22:48.34 | solemnwarning | It fails on "I: Unpacking the base system..." I think |
| 22:48.50 | azeem | that's pretty early on |
| 22:48.50 | Apollodoros | have many folks escaped from Debioan to ubuntu? |
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| 22:48.59 | azeem | Apollodoros: how should we know |
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| 22:49.17 | dondelelcaro | solemnwarning: in any event, see debootstrap/debootstrap.log |
| 22:49.18 | Apollodoros | any rumors? |
| 22:49.36 | jelly | themill: web browsers? :-) |
| 22:49.42 | solemnwarning | dondelelcaro: There isn't one |
| 22:49.46 | allix | anyone here running xen or kvm on debian testing? |
| 22:49.50 | themill | jelly: no, not fire^H^H^H^Hiceweasel |
| 22:49.51 | peterS | Apollodoros: I heard of one raft that left debian 2 weeks ago and was picked up by the ubuntu coast guard with 18 people still alive on board |
| 22:49.52 | dondelelcaro | solemnwarning: not underneath the target? |
| 22:50.09 | Apollodoros | heh :) |
| 22:50.11 | dondelelcaro | peterS: they were carying a newly developed virus |
| 22:50.17 | peterS | indeed. |
| 22:50.33 | solemnwarning | no |
| 22:51.03 | ttl- | peterS: orange does not do the trick |
| 22:51.10 | stoned | whoah |
| 22:51.15 | ttl- | it's driving me crazy |
| 22:51.20 | dondelelcaro | solemnwarning: try cdebootstrap and see if that fares any better, or look at the debootstrap script itself to see what's going on |
| 22:51.26 | peterS | ttl-: try 'mscompress' then |
| 22:51.48 | solemnwarning | cdebootstrap won't work because I don't have all the crap like GPG signitures on this repo |
| 22:52.17 | Apollodoros | When will be next stable Debian edition? |
| 22:52.24 | dondelelcaro | Apollodoros: when it's ready, as usual. |
| 22:52.24 | robboplus | do you remember how to check what sites link to you in google? |
| 22:52.35 | robboplus | linkto: or something |
| 22:52.44 | stoned | amd64 is extremely unstable for me (etch). Very very unstable. Applications crashing, segfaulting, sometimes apps won't even start. Try from console, and they crap out. I quit X, logout, login again, and it works for a while, then craps out again. What gives? |
| 22:52.52 | themill | !tell Apollodoros when will lenny release |
| 22:53.00 | Apollodoros | but not very soon I suppose |
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| 22:53.07 | Apollodoros | adn it is good |
| 22:53.16 | dondelelcaro | stoned: that sounds almost like a hardware issue |
| 22:53.16 | solemnwarning | Wha |
| 22:53.17 | robin_sz | Apollodoros, the next release will be exactly 1 lenny after the Etch release date, |
| 22:53.23 | solemnwarning | People are ALREADY asking for another stable? |
| 22:53.25 | h3sp4wn | stoned: kernel ? |
| 22:53.37 | Apollodoros | I won't upgrade OS frequently |
| 22:53.45 | robin_sz | solemnwarning, are we nearly there yet? |
| 22:53.56 | stoned | dondelelcaro: could it be because my c2d is massively overclocked. overclocking has weird effects on 64bit you think? |
| 22:54.08 | solemnwarning | No, debootstrap won't give me a damm error |
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| 22:54.17 | dondelelcaro | stoned: that'd be the first place to check |
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| 22:54.34 | h3sp4wn | stoned: 2.6.18 has some issues with the intel 965 chipset |
| 22:54.45 | stoned | dondelelcaro: I ask because on the same clock speeds on 32bit etch, it is rock solid. |
| 22:55.26 | stoned | dondelelcaro: I will try with default memory timings and default clock speeds and see if amd64 will be more stable. I guess thats the only way to find out |
| 22:55.58 | stoned | ahhh boy *sigh* |
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| 22:56.32 | stoned | or... should I use ia64 on core 2? |
| 22:56.33 | xahlee | on linuxs, does emacs by default bind Meta to the Alt key or the Windows key? |
| 22:56.43 | h3sp4wn | stoned: You cannot use ia64 |
| 22:56.46 | stoned | oh |
| 22:56.47 | Supaplex | xahlee: not the windows key |
| 22:56.53 | stoned | thts only for xeons or something? |
| 22:56.59 | h3sp4wn | stoned: Its for itanium |
| 22:56.59 | azeem | it's itanium |
| 22:57.02 | stoned | ahh |
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| 22:57.16 | Rienzilla | Hey everyone |
| 22:57.29 | tech13 | I have a nat with port forwarding setup for ssh to different machines in the office. How do I setup my local SSH to allow a different key for each host:port? |
| 22:57.43 | h3sp4wn | stoned: Try a kernel from backports.org also (stuff sometimes gets fixed first in 32bit and then not in 64 bit for one or 2 releases) |
| 22:57.58 | Rienzilla | I have a debian sarge system, which is running a custom built kernel (installed via a kernel package I made with make-kpkg). However, I would like to revert to debian's stock kernel. any idea how I might go about that? |
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| 22:58.03 | stoned | I was using 2.6.18-4-amd64 |
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| 22:58.37 | stoned | Rienzilla: install a stock kernel image and it will update grub menu.lst and just reboot with the stock kernel/ |
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| 22:58.41 | stoned | ? |
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| 22:58.48 | sarefo | hi, which repository do i have to add to be able to install lame and mencoder on etch? |
| 22:58.59 | stoned | !dmm |
| 22:59.00 | dpkg | from memory, dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. http://debian-multimedia.org - Also see <marillat> factoid (/msg dpkg marillat) |
| 22:59.06 | h3sp4wn | stoned: try 2.6.21-2 from - http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
| 22:59.11 | Rienzilla | ok but what's it called? if I try apt-get install linux-image it gives me a load of kernel packages I can choose from, and all seem to come from the backports repository |
| 22:59.33 | stoned | thats for mencoder I believe, as for lame, just nonfree i think and install liblame0 |
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| 22:59.33 | stoned | !tell Rienzilla -about search |
| 23:00.53 | themill | Rienzilla: under sarge, it's not called linux-image |
| 23:01.03 | Rienzilla | oh |
| 23:01.07 | stoned | 2.6 is called linux-image on sarge |
| 23:01.14 | stoned | 2.4 is kernel-image |
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| 23:01.52 | stoned | btw, whatever happened to 2.5? was there ever a 2.5 kernel? |
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| 23:02.03 | krazykit | yeah, there was |
| 23:02.04 | peterS | stoned: errr, on sarge, 2.6 is kernel-image too |
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| 23:02.10 | stoned | peterS: it is? |
| 23:02.11 | krazykit | stoned, it's on kernel.org |
| 23:02.12 | Rienzilla | aargh |
| 23:02.13 | Supaplex | stoned: 2.5 was development |
| 23:02.14 | bzed | stoned: that was the developer kernel version for 2.6 |
| 23:02.22 | Rienzilla | I believe I screwed my packaging up |
| 23:02.22 | stoned | peterS: I swear I remember ... nm |
| 23:02.27 | peterS | stoned: 2.5 was a development series, culminating in 2.6.0. it forked off from 2.4.15 or so |
| 23:02.40 | bzed | .. and was more or less completely rewritten |
| 23:02.42 | Supaplex | stoned: just like all odd numbering kernels. 2.1 2.4 2.5 ... |
| 23:02.50 | juice` | any one knows if these syslong-ng.conf entries will filter out printk and conntrack_ftp messages from kern.log ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31326/ |
| 23:02.52 | Supaplex | er s/2.4/2.3/ |
| 23:02.57 | azeem | Supaplex: good one |
| 23:03.02 | stoned | ahh, didn't know that |
| 23:03.18 | stoned | my house is under a rock |
| 23:03.20 | stoned | so.. you know. |
| 23:03.35 | Supaplex | is that because stoned is on top? |
| 23:03.38 | peterS | yeah 2.1 was a really long development series, going up through 2.1.132 or so. 2.3 and 2.5 were shorter, less than 60 revs each |
| 23:03.50 | themill | stoned: sarge had kernel-image-2.6 too. |
| 23:04.05 | stoned | themill: I remember differently but then again I was probably stoned. |
| 23:04.06 | Supaplex | 2.0.35 was my first kernel. |
| 23:04.10 | kie27 | greetings all, i have a remote server that has a partition that is running out of diskspace (mostly through cvs which is in /var/lib/cvs), i have plenty of room in /home, is there anyway to reduce the home partition and increase the /var partition without taking the machine offline? or do you have any better ideas? |
| 23:04.15 | karsten | peterS: A fair number of the 2.1 series kernels were released after 2.2 came out as well. |
| 23:04.16 | themill | http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 23:04.23 | themill | stoned: ^^ |
| 23:04.35 | peterS | Supaplex: ahh, you missed the f00f bug scramble of 2.0.33 or 2.0.34 then |
| 23:04.43 | peterS | exciting times |
| 23:04.54 | stoned | I don't argue that, but was there ever a linux image for sarge at all? |
| 23:04.56 | Supaplex | kie27: resize2fs can, if the filesystem has live resize support |
| 23:05.04 | karsten | kie27: You *can* dynamically resize partitions, but it's not particularly recommended, especially in the case of a remote system. |
| 23:05.08 | stoned | cuz i do rememer something like that but why do i remember it |
| 23:05.18 | karsten | kie27: You'ver very likely to get yourself into a situation in which you cannot recover. |
| 23:05.18 | themill | peterS: ahh.... 2.0.33... that was a good kernel... ran it for years.... |
| 23:05.19 | stoned | im probably wrong as always but i do remember something |
| 23:05.38 | peterS | stoned: there was no linux-image for sarge. the rename from kernel-image to linux-image happened after the sarge release. |
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| 23:05.53 | stoned | peterS: backport maybe you suppose |
| 23:05.56 | Supaplex | blame kfreebsd :P |
| 23:06.15 | kie27 | ok, so any alternative strategies that you can recommend, if i don't use resize2fs? |
| 23:06.35 | karsten | peterS: I hear they're finger(1) lickin' good. |
| 23:06.43 | peterS | they are |
| 23:06.44 | stoned | peterS: I saw a picture of earth from outside the solar system. it was wicked. |
| 23:06.45 | ricosecada | Hi, in *BSD we have an -P option to the rm command which overwrites files before deletion, I can see this option doesn't exist in debians version of rm. What other ways are used to do that? |
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| 23:06.56 | peterS | ricosecada: try shred |
| 23:06.57 | karsten | ricosecada: shred, wipe |
| 23:07.14 | ricosecada | Thank you both :-) |
| 23:08.12 | kie27 | i have already removed lots of old log files from that partition but am running out of options, i didn't expect so much use of the cvs repositories when i first set up the server three years ago |
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| 23:08.34 | karsten | kie27: Short-term: move the repository home elsewhere. |
| 23:08.50 | cafuego | and symlink /var/cvs to it |
| 23:09.08 | juice` | any one knows if these syslong-ng.conf entries will filter out printk and conntrack_ftp messages from kern.log ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31326/ |
| 23:09.27 | themill | ricosecada: it doesn't work on a journalling file system though |
| 23:09.32 | stoned | peterS: http://www.bigskyastroclub.org/pale_blue_dot.html |
| 23:09.58 | ricosecada | themill, no I see that, I was just reading the man pages |
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| 23:10.22 | lu-bao | !nvidia |
| 23:10.22 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
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| 23:11.33 | kie27 | thanks, if i just moved it (lets say to /home/cvs) and symlinked /var/lib/cvs to that directory, can you think anything that would stop working? assuming that i make sure new directory has correct permissions :) |
| 23:11.54 | karsten | kie27: That should be fine. |
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| 23:12.44 | cafuego | stoned: Those aren't sunbeams, they're alien death rays! |
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| 23:13.06 | kie27 | thanks very much all, esp Supaplex, karsten, cafuego! have a nice evening, I am off to sleep. |
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| 23:13.32 | stoned | linux-image-2.6.16-2-686_2.6.16-18~bpo.1_i386.deb 31-Aug-2006 12:02 16M |
| 23:13.39 | stoned | i knew I wasn't fucking crazy man |
| 23:13.44 | stoned | backported kernels for sarge |
| 23:13.52 | stoned | i knew i'd seen a linux iamge for sarge somewhere |
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| 23:15.39 | stoned | cafuego: but it makes you wonder though |
| 23:17.09 | rolnxyz | is there any way to save changes from a live cd distribution running from a pendrive? |
| 23:17.21 | Chihork | I just changed my distribution from etch to lenny, through my sources.list file. My system seems to be misconfigured; I must have kept an old config file I shouldn't have. When I login to a shell, I always get "error while loading shared libraries" messages and my shell commands won't work. Wondering if someone might be able to help me fix my system right quick. |
| 23:17.34 | stoned | rolnxyz: which linux distro are you using? |
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| 23:17.54 | rolnxyz | the pendrive runs xubuntu |
| 23:18.02 | stoned | rolnxyz: then ask in #ubuntu |
| 23:18.05 | stoned | or #xubuntu |
| 23:18.13 | stoned | this is #debian |
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| 23:21.36 | sparr | My keyboard auto-repeat seems to be disabled. Help? |
| 23:22.18 | peterS | sparr: linux console, or X11? |
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| 23:23.06 | sparr | peterS: both |
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| 23:24.24 | peterS | sparr: for X11 I think you use xset, for the console you use kbdrate, which I think requires root |
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| 23:26.12 | aztek | how do i kill a ssh session and all the processes that user created? |
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| 23:27.46 | stoned | maybe /etc/init.d/ssh stop |
| 23:27.58 | stoned | or killall sshd *not as root* |
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| 23:28.30 | stoned | dunno if that kills bg processes |
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| 23:29.32 | arrowes | he |
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| 23:31.22 | stoned | she |
| 23:31.41 | Ardi | hi to all ... i am trying to install debian using the windows installer but after the reboot the install stops at a line initrd \debian |
| 23:31.48 | Ardi | am i doing smth wrong |
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| 23:37.11 | obsethryl | lively |
| 23:37.21 | obsethryl | adn interesting as always |
| 23:37.24 | obsethryl | and* |
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| 23:38.46 | stoned | Ardi: move the initrd.gz file to c:\debian as well |
| 23:38.56 | MaQuiche | hi, when I try to watch a video with vlc the video is lagging. i use debian etch my graphic card is an ati x1800xt (i use ati propietary module) |
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| 23:39.22 | stoned | Ardi: make sure c:\debian\linux and c:\debian\initrd.gz exist. Then check c:\menu.lst and make sure the paths are correct. Then try installing again |
| 23:39.37 | stoned | Ardi: afaik it shouldn't cause a proble at all, debian.exe works like a charm |
| 23:39.55 | stoned | Ardi: read the install guide to understand how the procedure works |
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| 23:40.14 | stoned | Ardi: in the install guide you're looking for the sectio that tells how to install debian from another OS using grub |
| 23:40.19 | stoned | !tell Ardi -about ig |
| 23:40.32 | stoned | i think chapter 5 |
| 23:41.10 | stoned | MaQuiche: try to change the output plugin for video |
| 23:41.31 | stoned | MaQuiche: use xv if X11 is set, or vice versa, or try gl/gl2 |
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| 23:42.37 | stoned | !ping |
| 23:42.37 | dpkg | pong |
| 23:42.48 | Ardi | stoned: they are there and do exist ... i thought that might be a problem with the internet connection but no :( wired i will try to uninstall and reinstall again |
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| 23:43.07 | stoned | Ardi: paste the contents of c:\menu.lst on paster |
| 23:43.09 | stoned | !paster |
| 23:43.09 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 23:44.04 | Ardi | http://paste.debian.net/33422 |
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| 23:44.20 | Ardi | initrd /debian/initrd.gz |
| 23:44.25 | Ardi | this is where it stops |
| 23:44.33 | stoned | you don't have a root entry |
| 23:44.40 | stoned | you need it |
| 23:44.54 | MaQuiche | stoned, thank you i changed for opengl and it's work :) |
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| 23:45.15 | stoned | Ardi: you need a root hd(0,0) line |
| 23:45.24 | stoned | or wherever c:\ is |
| 23:45.38 | stoned | and you don't need all those crazy boot params |
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| 23:45.57 | Ardi | where can i get a example file that works |
| 23:46.00 | stoned | find --set-root /debian/initrd.gz <== never seen it |
| 23:46.03 | stoned | dunno wtf it does |
| 23:46.10 | stoned | no clue but apaprantly it is setting root |
| 23:46.13 | stoned | i dunno |
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| 23:46.50 | bkw | When I did install squirrelmail package I got a /etc/apache2/conf.d/squirrelmail.conf which I've rm:ed by misstake. Where do I find that file? |
| 23:47.13 | bkw | I've fetched the squirrelmail sources.. but can't find the conf |
| 23:47.14 | stoned | root hd(0,0) |
| 23:47.14 | stoned | kernel/debian/linux ramdisk_size=12000 root=/dev/ram0 |
| 23:47.15 | stoned | initrd/debian/initrd.gz |
| 23:47.17 | stoned | oops |
| 23:47.34 | stoned | Ardi: http://paste.debian.net/33423 |
| 23:48.04 | stoned | Ardi: supposing c == hd(0,0) first disk, first partition |
| 23:48.54 | stoned | bkw: dpkg -L pkgname|grep conf |
| 23:48.54 | stoned | ? |
| 23:48.59 | obsethryl | hmm is any staffer around please |
| 23:49.02 | bkw | ok |
| 23:49.24 | obsethryl | i am not asking for help/install/whatever_links_to_noobs_or_attitude |
| 23:49.27 | stoned | obsethryl: check in #freenode or something or #help |
| 23:49.36 | obsethryl | no i mean a debian staffer |
| 23:49.46 | stoned | obsethryl: they are around. what do you need? |
| 23:49.49 | obsethryl | if i wanted a freenode staffer i would have phoned them |
| 23:49.55 | obsethryl | one in private |
| 23:50.16 | stoned | hmm.. is it something important? |
| 23:50.31 | obsethryl | something i want to ask |
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| 23:50.43 | obsethryl | it is offtopic in here |
| 23:50.43 | stoned | !ops obsethryl needs a debian op |
| 23:50.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: stoned complains about: obsethryl needs a debian op |
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| 23:50.53 | stoned | well there you go |
| 23:51.09 | stoned | if anyone replies, ask them for prv |
| 23:51.35 | peterS | obsethryl: ? |
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| 23:51.44 | obsethryl | oh, you. |
| 23:51.51 | obsethryl | care for a pm? |
| 23:51.57 | peterS | go ahead |
| 23:52.03 | obsethryl | done |
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| 23:52.42 | xahlee | on linuxs, does emacs by default bind Meta to the Alt key or the Windows key? |
| 23:52.45 | stoned | bkw: oh i misrea your question |
| 23:52.51 | stoned | bkw: you want confmiss |
| 23:53.00 | bkw | yep |
| 23:53.01 | stoned | !tell bkw -about confmiss |
| 23:53.54 | stoned | man o man |
| 23:53.57 | stoned | I love Fear Factory |
| 23:54.13 | stoned | I have not heard any since middle school/jr. high |
| 23:54.18 | zinx | that's because you're on the loco plant, son |
| 23:54.22 | stoned | lol |
| 23:54.29 | stoned | sup zinx man |
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| 23:55.01 | zinx | bein annoyed at sata_nv, and my UPS which decided to lose charge |
| 23:55.35 | stoned | thats not good |
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| 23:55.50 | stoned | I usually don't get annoyed with my computer unless I'm using ubuntu |
| 23:55.56 | stoned | yeh.. don't ask. |
| 23:55.57 | zinx | hehe :) |
| 23:56.05 | stoned | xp doesn't piss me off as much man |
| 23:56.07 | stoned | its whack |
| 23:56.16 | zinx | ubuntu totally won't work for my laptop, and my desktop has had debian since before ubuntu |
| 23:56.25 | stoned | same here |
| 23:56.34 | stoned | I've had sid on my laptop for god knows how many years |
| 23:57.40 | stoned | I'm gonna default back to 1.8ghz and 667mhz dram and try amd64 again |
| 23:57.49 | stoned | see if i still get errors |
| 23:57.59 | stoned | is there a 64bit memtest or something too? |
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| 23:59.27 | stoned | man i gotta do some reading about 64bit |
| 23:59.32 | Webuser | I have a monitor cable here wherein the ferrite (presumably) bulges are not at the end where the connectors are as is the case with most cables |
| 23:59.40 | Webuser | but rather centered in the middle. |
| 23:59.48 | Webuser | Is this superior or inferior design? What is the rationale? |
