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| 00:00.04 | stew | abrotman: did they make a bad trade? |
| 00:00.05 | stoned | not you why |
| 00:00.05 | Azar | ouch.... sorry so I confused you with another person |
| 00:00.06 | stoned | Azar: why |
| 00:00.13 | Azar | stoned: cuz it roks |
| 00:00.20 | stoned | im on xp |
| 00:00.22 | stoned | ! |
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| 00:00.26 | nelf | xitron: Any luck? |
| 00:00.30 | stoned | my xp looks like vista |
| 00:00.34 | stoned | im so leet |
| 00:00.35 | Azar | :( no beer for you |
| 00:00.43 | stoned | nah, I just wanna beat this expansion |
| 00:00.46 | xitron | nelf well I added those lines yes |
| 00:00.50 | simonrvn | stoned: why? |
| 00:00.52 | stew | abrotman: our die-hard yankees fan friend is coming for dinner, so they'll probably be tracking both team's games tonight |
| 00:00.52 | abrotman | stew: the game is on |
| 00:00.52 | stoned | Oblivion got The Shivering Isles |
| 00:00.57 | abrotman | hehe .. yay! |
| 00:01.04 | stoned | 30+ hours of gameplay |
| 00:01.07 | stoned | competlely different world than oblivion |
| 00:01.09 | stoned | new god |
| 00:01.11 | stoned | its cool man |
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| 00:01.17 | nelf | xitron: and restarted ssh? |
| 00:01.18 | abrotman | stew: the game is going .. poorly ... |
| 00:01.19 | xitron | nelf now I type ftp ass user and then he ask email for password but when I type it it says login incorect |
| 00:01.21 | stoned | cedega don't do oblivion |
| 00:01.25 | stoned | so I use xp :( |
| 00:01.34 | Azar | 30 hours sheeeshhh.... my ass would become a pizza |
| 00:01.35 | stoned | Linux laptop 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 26 17:17:36 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 00:01.37 | xitron | nelf, first try to get anonymous ftp working |
| 00:01.38 | stoned | se |
| 00:01.38 | abrotman | nelf: you mean restarted proftpd ? |
| 00:01.40 | stoned | xp kicks ass |
| 00:01.41 | stoned | ;) |
| 00:01.48 | nelf | xitron: that was only to stop ssh into that account |
| 00:01.52 | stoned | xp using 2.6.18 |
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| 00:02.05 | stoned | hah, i'll shut up |
| 00:02.06 | xitron | nelf well anonymous works now but he asks for password |
| 00:02.16 | xitron | so email -> |
| 00:02.23 | xitron | I type something = login incorect |
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| 00:02.35 | Azar | stoned: I'm back to work finally! after 2 months of at home disabled |
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| 00:02.55 | nelf | xitron - did you uncomment the section in /etc/proftpd.conf that begins with <Anonymous>? |
| 00:02.58 | Azar | my office welcomed me with fried duck! |
| 00:03.04 | xitron | nelf yea |
| 00:03.14 | ruser____ | hey guys, i'm running lenny, and i was upgrading xorg, for some reason aptitude hangs on Setting up xserver-xorg (1:7.2-5) http://rafb.net/p/uavDQG19.html <- process tree |
| 00:03.16 | stew | xitron: can you put your proftpd.conf into a pastebin? /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 00:03.26 | Azar | Guerin: say something please |
| 00:03.26 | xitron | stew I have no x running |
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| 00:03.40 | stoned | congrats |
| 00:03.44 | stew | xitron: that shouldn't affect anything |
| 00:03.49 | stoned | I just started a new job and I got sick for a few days |
| 00:03.53 | stoned | it sucked |
| 00:03.56 | stoned | but job kicks ass |
| 00:04.02 | Azar | tell me, what job? |
| 00:04.13 | xitron | stew, how then? |
| 00:04.19 | stew | xitron: how what? |
| 00:04.20 | stoned | I overclocked an AMD athlon 64 X2 6000 today |
| 00:04.26 | datadr|nker | hello gnubies and hax0rs alike |
| 00:04.30 | Azar | stoned: what new job? |
| 00:04.31 | stoned | build the 8800gtx box, new mobo ram everything |
| 00:04.34 | stoned | its fantastic |
| 00:04.46 | stoned | Azar: I manage a geeksquad type business location |
| 00:04.56 | Azar | yay, nice! |
| 00:04.59 | stoned | I also do tech work, and sometimes onsite, but rarely |
| 00:05.02 | datadr|nker | for sure |
| 00:05.12 | stoned | i've only done 1 onsite so far in a month |
| 00:05.19 | simonrvn | Azar: holy smokes, they've done a lot of work.... i'm reading the changelog right now |
| 00:05.27 | stoned | I am also the head web developer at work |
| 00:05.28 | Azar | simonrvn: toldya |
| 00:05.33 | datadr|nker | im about to try to boot: Windows Vista Ultimate w/ BIOS Emulated Bootloader by NoPE |
| 00:05.35 | stoned | whatever contracts my boss gets, I get to do em |
| 00:05.38 | stoned | its cool man I like it |
| 00:05.47 | Azar | stoned: omg...man, congratulations! |
| 00:05.47 | stoned | its the same shit I do at home that I do at work |
| 00:05.49 | stoned | minus the customers |
| 00:05.58 | stoned | no difference |
| 00:06.07 | ruser____ | hey guys, i'm running lenny, and i was upgrading xorg, for some reason aptitude hangs on Setting up xserver-xorg (1:7.2-5) http://rafb.net/p/uavDQG19.html <- process tree. What can i do about? it won't let me install other packages. and i do have working config.... is ther any way i can mark it configured or something? if it's just trying to modify the xorg.conf |
| 00:06.07 | stoned | except at home i can get high, at work i can, but i don't |
| 00:06.11 | stoned | i love it |
| 00:06.14 | abrotman | datadr|nker: #debian ? |
| 00:06.17 | stoned | I got sid at work |
| 00:06.24 | stoned | and i showed off some beryl to people there |
| 00:06.28 | stoned | I felt leet. thats right. |
| 00:06.30 | datadr|nker | ruser____: try using apt-get |
| 00:06.31 | stoned | leet |
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| 00:06.48 | datadr|nker | ruser____: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 00:06.50 | Azar | stoned: hehe |
| 00:06.54 | stew | ruser____: apt-get is not going to do anything different that aptitude here |
| 00:07.01 | abrotman | datadr|nker: won't make a difference at all |
| 00:07.01 | stew | ruser____: how long have you let it run? |
| 00:07.03 | datadr|nker | it's going to show us what goes wrong |
| 00:07.05 | Azar | shame that beryl has to turn heads, and not Debian itself |
| 00:07.09 | abrotman | datadr|nker: no .. it won't |
| 00:07.15 | datadr|nker | why not |
| 00:07.17 | stew | datadr|nker: its not going to do anything differently |
| 00:07.25 | abrotman | datadr|nker: because you didn't even look at his paste .. |
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| 00:07.35 | datadr|nker | okay |
| 00:07.43 | ruser____ | stew for a little while... now i have bunch of discover threads running with status of D.... |
| 00:08.11 | stew | ruser____: yeah, they are stuck waiting on some io to timeout |
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| 00:08.44 | stew | ruser____: perhaps you can remove discover and try again |
| 00:09.00 | ruser____ | stew hrm... wonder if xorg depends on it |
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| 00:09.06 | stew | !rdepends discover |
| 00:09.23 | gravity | It doesn't require it but it does use it if you generate an xorg.conf |
| 00:09.29 | gravity | From the dpkg-reconfigure stuff or at install |
| 00:09.40 | stew | gravity: will it generate one without discover? |
| 00:09.46 | ruser____ | gravity what if i have a valid config? |
| 00:09.48 | gravity | stew: Yes |
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| 00:09.57 | gravity | ruser____: It won't do anything |
| 00:10.18 | gravity | Unless you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, discover isn't used by xorg. The actual X.org stuff doesn't use it, just the debian packaging |
| 00:10.28 | gravity | And even that should be going away soon, if I can finish off this patch |
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| 00:10.43 | xitron | nelf I can do it anonymous now but he asks for password as email so when I type an email he says "Login Incorect" |
| 00:10.49 | ruser____ | gravity well, i'm upgrading my xserver-xorg but because it had unmet deps, so i had to do install xserver-xorg.... and now it hangs and discover is what it is waiting on |
| 00:10.53 | stew | gravity: how can i find the git commit that added a file i didn't want added (and revert it)? |
| 00:10.57 | simonrvn | xitron: um s/he left |
| 00:11.06 | gravity | stew: git log yourfile |
| 00:11.30 | gravity | ruser____: Ouch. You can try replacing it with discover1 or you can just remove it |
| 00:11.36 | xitron | simonrvn, you mean the header? /anonymous .. |
| 00:11.40 | abrotman | gravity: how can i make xorg stop dying when i close my lid? |
| 00:11.45 | simonrvn | no, nelf |
| 00:11.56 | abrotman | :) |
| 00:11.58 | stew | hmm maybe i already reverted it |
| 00:12.01 | gravity | abrotman: Suspend 'n resume is beyond me. Talk to Matthew Garret |
| 00:12.01 | _DunK_ | hi, I was wondering if someone could give me a pointer - I'm running ubuntu (it's downstream so it counts, right :D) and I am trying to get an .Xsession file in my homedir to load on logon, with no luck... I have checked and allow-user-xsession is set in /etc/X11/Xsession.options. I am not sure where else to turn |
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| 00:12.12 | ruser____ | gravity replacing the discover? with discover1? or remove what? sorry, a bit inexplicit... |
| 00:12.12 | rockets | is there a linux tool i can use to clone an entire hard drive MBR and all? |
| 00:12.15 | abrotman | gravity: hehe .. i'd settle for not suspending at all |
| 00:12.20 | ruser____ | rockets dd |
| 00:12.32 | gravity | ruser____: Just install discover1 and let it remove discover |
| 00:12.33 | stew | abrotman: identify the file from /etc/acpi/events |
| 00:12.42 | abrotman | stew: i would if there were any :) |
| 00:12.43 | gravity | ruser____: The xserver scripts will use discover1 just fine |
| 00:12.43 | stew | abrotman: then remove it or remove the script it calls or fix the script |
| 00:12.46 | rockets | ruser____, man for dd says "Convert and copy a file" |
| 00:12.57 | gravity | ruser____: If that's a problem then remove discover1 and make sure discover is still gone |
| 00:13.08 | abrotman | stew: the only one in there was 'button' . which is the power button .. which shouldn't be getting activated when i close the lid |
| 00:13.09 | xitron | simonrvn, the last thing of the whole config is </Anonymous> you mean that? |
| 00:13.11 | gravity | abrotman: that's not an X thing, that's something outside X |
| 00:13.16 | _DunK_ | also, my window manager is ion |
| 00:13.24 | ruser____ | gravity hrm... but it wont' let me install discover1 becuase it's locked on partially configured xserver-xorg |
| 00:13.33 | gravity | ick |
| 00:13.34 | simonrvn | xitron: no i don't |
| 00:13.40 | abrotman | gravity: there's a similar bug filed against the xorg-i810 driver |
| 00:13.41 | xitron | simonrvn, then..? |
| 00:13.42 | stew | _DunK_: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 00:13.48 | gravity | ruser____: You can't dpkg -i it? |
| 00:14.01 | simonrvn | xitron: i was telling you that nelf left the channel.... |
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| 00:14.04 | stew | xitron: can you put the config into a pastebin? |
| 00:14.06 | gravity | abrotman: Suspend and resume is totally fucked as far as I can tell. So I don't bother with it. |
| 00:14.11 | ruser____ | rockets http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm |
| 00:14.14 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 00:14.16 | xitron | simonrvn, ooow |
| 00:14.27 | ruser____ | gravity i suppose i can try that, hold on |
| 00:14.31 | abrotman | gravity: i agree .. i'd rather not use it at all .. i only have acpi installed for fan control |
| 00:14.32 | xitron | stew, how if I don't have X running? |
| 00:14.46 | stew | xitron: upload it to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php |
| 00:15.13 | xitron | stew, with what program? |
| 00:15.22 | stew | xitron: a web browser |
| 00:15.23 | _DunK_ | stew: I did think of that first, but got no help. I figured #deb people would probably have a better grip on things |
| 00:15.36 | xitron | stew, links I suggest and how do I copy it? |
| 00:15.49 | stew | _DunK_: sorry, ubuntu is off-topic here. perhaps try a ubuntu mailing list or a webforum |
| 00:16.01 | rockets | ruser____, thanks |
| 00:16.04 | stew | xitron: don't copy it, go to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php and upload it |
| 00:16.13 | xitron | stew, ok |
| 00:16.20 | _DunK_ | stew: ok, thanks anyways |
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| 00:18.11 | ruser____ | gravity would dpkg -i remove the conflicting discover? or do i have to do it manualy? |
| 00:18.44 | gravity | ruser____: I don't remember. Try it and see. |
| 00:19.12 | xitron | stew, I'm at that page atm but how the fu** do I upload it now :s I can't type it in |
| 00:19.41 | ruser____ | gravity well, it installed dicsover1 (i download all the deps) but it didn't remove the discover... |
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| 00:20.08 | stew | xitron: click the browse button, select the file, then hit the upload button |
| 00:20.21 | stew | ruser____: aptitude -f install |
| 00:20.22 | xitron | stew, in links.. |
| 00:20.27 | stew | xitron: sure |
| 00:20.38 | gravity | Hrm, I guess the conflicts is gone now |
| 00:20.51 | tyler-wylie | gravity: I've had suspend and resume work brilliant on fedora, and not work on gentoo/debian. I want to know what they change so I can use it on my other computers >:O |
| 00:21.06 | gravity | tyler-wylie: Good luck |
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| 00:21.37 | ruser____ | i had suspend/resume working with kde out of the box for lenny... a while ago. i dind't touch it recently |
| 00:21.44 | stew | tyler-wylie: does "echo mem > /sys/power/state" work? |
| 00:22.10 | stew | i need to blog about my latest dope suspend/acpi scripts |
| 00:22.15 | litage_ | a friend experienced a power outage. he was unable to boot into 2.6.18, so he went into recovery mode and reinstalled the linux-image package. however, this error keeps occuring during kernel installation. what should we do?: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-686/... |
| 00:22.55 | ruser____ | litage_ i'm no expert but he probably should try running depmode -a as root |
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| 00:23.09 | ruser____ | litage_ i'm no expert but he probably should try running depmod -a as root |
| 00:23.36 | simonrvn | that's unresolved symbols, not just "can't find" errors |
| 00:23.53 | xitron | stew, http://pastebin.ca/641207 |
| 00:25.05 | stew | xitron: did you add a user named "ftp"? |
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| 00:25.13 | litage_ | running depmod with any one of -a , -u , -e results in this error: depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
| 00:25.23 | xitron | well if I login I used ftp |
| 00:25.42 | stew | xitron: did you add a user named "ftp" using adduser? |
| 00:25.49 | xitron | mhh no |
| 00:25.51 | xitron | sorry |
| 00:26.12 | xitron | stew, it alredy exist |
| 00:26.14 | stew | xitron: "adduser --shell /bin/false ftp" |
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| 00:26.29 | ruser____ | gravity still hanging there.... is tehre any way i can mark the package configured? |
| 00:26.36 | xitron | stew, the user 'ftp' alredy exists |
| 00:26.40 | gravity | weird |
| 00:26.48 | gravity | ruser____: This is the first hang from discover I've heard of in a long time |
| 00:26.51 | gravity | Or... ever |
| 00:27.03 | stew | xitron: have you restarted proftpd since uncommenting the anonymouse section |
| 00:27.12 | simonrvn | i've seen it happen with serial stuff |
| 00:27.18 | datadr|nker | hooray, etch is installing on the inspiron 1420n that came with ubuntu :o |
| 00:27.26 | xitron | yea where I need to restart in arch it was /etc/rc.d/.. and debian was ? |
| 00:27.36 | simonrvn | init.d |
| 00:27.37 | ruser____ | gravity well, here is partial tree of processes: http://rafb.net/p/YHQn6S34.html |
| 00:27.45 | xitron | simonrvn, tnx |
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| 00:27.49 | simonrvn | yeh i unplonked |
| 00:27.54 | ruser____ | gravity i'm not sure why update-menus is running on it's own without a parent |
| 00:28.06 | xitron | done lets try |
| 00:28.34 | gravity | ruser____: Can you just hold the xserver-xorg install and let the rest run? |
| 00:28.39 | xitron | stew, still nothing 530 login incorrect |
| 00:28.41 | gravity | I want to be sure it's really the xserver-xorg that's hanging |
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| 00:29.33 | stew | xitron: check the logs in /var/log/proftpd/ |
| 00:29.51 | krekon | is there any database for linux drivers that I could search? |
| 00:30.54 | xitron | stew, there is nothing from user ftp |
| 00:30.58 | cafuego | krekon: The best one if the kernel source |
| 00:31.05 | cafuego | s/if/is/ |
| 00:31.22 | stew | krekon: what exactly are you trying to figure out? |
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| 00:31.41 | ruser____ | gravity hrm.. how can i hold it... dpkg complains about being interrupted.... |
| 00:31.50 | gravity | ruser____: I don't know |
| 00:32.35 | xitron | stew, nope nothing at all |
| 00:33.05 | krekon | stew well I want to buy a pci network card and the model doesn't support linux driver. How can I find if is there anyone in kernel? |
| 00:33.27 | stew | krekon: what is the model? |
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| 00:33.44 | xitron | stew, what now :s |
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| 00:34.34 | krekon | stew D-LINK DFE-528TX PCI 10/100 ETHERNET ADAPTER |
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| 00:35.27 | simonrvn | !tell jika388 -about root |
| 00:36.03 | krekon | stew the thing is that I want to know if there is databse, or I have to ask in this room to take ana answer for every hardware I want to add ? |
| 00:36.09 | epsilon | krekon: depends on which chip is on that card - if unsure, get one with realtek chipset |
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| 00:37.27 | epsilon | krekon: simple way to check is to find out the chipset, then google or search in kernel's menuconfig |
| 00:38.16 | ruser____ | gravity perhaps i can remove the lock on the pkg cache? and then mark it as held? |
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| 00:39.14 | krekon | epsilon ok thanks. well probbably I'll buy the NIC 10/100 PCI RETAIL . this is realtek, isn't it? |
| 00:39.42 | epsilon | ask your dealer |
| 00:39.51 | epsilon | retail can be *anything* |
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| 00:42.36 | gravity | ruser____: I don't know, maybe |
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| 00:43.18 | ruser____ | :/ |
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| 00:43.33 | jika388 | who ever that was, thanks, that was an accident I don't intend to repeat. |
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| 00:44.35 | Gokee2 | I rather hate to use hacker in the Hollywood fashion as describing someone "hacking" into a email account.... But off the top of my head I can`t think of any substitute. Anyone know of a good word to use? Thanks |
| 00:44.49 | abrotman | cracker |
| 00:44.59 | techrush | hey lets not get racia; |
| 00:45.01 | techrush | racial |
| 00:45.13 | abrotman | !jargon |
| 00:45.14 | dpkg | jargon is, like, at http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon or apt-get install jargon |
| 00:45.18 | abrotman | Gokee2: ^^ |
| 00:45.19 | Gokee2 | hmmm That non-geeks might also know...? |
| 00:45.42 | abrotman | explain it to them .. |
| 00:45.45 | Gokee2 | I mean I would understand cracker but I am not sure the list I am sending to would.... |
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| 00:45.57 | Gokee2 | That would work I guess :) |
| 00:46.13 | abrotman | Gokee2: criminal ? violator? trespasser ? |
| 00:46.30 | edju | Trying to setup wireless. I can do it manually, but no connection on booting. /etc/network interfaces looks OK, but what do I know? At boot, "wlan0 is not a device" - or close to that. How to get it loaded at boot? |
| 00:46.56 | Gokee2 | abrotman, Sortof... one of them will work thanks :) |
| 00:47.10 | jika388 | I do have a question, I just got this system up and running but under gnome i only have one resolution choice, 640X480 which is rediculous, any suggestions would be nice. thanks! |
| 00:47.20 | abrotman | Gokee2: a bunch of curse words strung together ? |
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| 00:50.07 | ruser____ | ok, i'm gonna try to reboot |
| 00:50.14 | ruser____ | hope it's not going to screw up my x |
| 00:50.57 | ruser____ | gravity i think i know what's the problem |
| 00:51.08 | ruser____ | gravity it's not the xserver, it's the buggy ndiswrapper |
| 00:51.37 | ruser____ | gravity i've seen reboot (just like now) hangup.... when the module is in use. and i can't even remove it sometimes |
| 00:51.40 | gravity | hrmpf |
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| 00:51.57 | kripton1x | i need a multiverse repository can someone help me with one |
| 00:51.59 | gravity | Yeah, I didn't think a simple PCI scan by discover would cause problems |
| 00:52.02 | kripton1x | need it for aptget |
| 00:52.22 | ruser____ | gravity anyhow, i'll reboot, and hopefully it's going to be solved... brb |
| 00:52.27 | abrotman | kripton1x: that's something ubuntu uses .. try #ubuntu |
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| 00:53.29 | jika388 | hello! |
| 00:53.59 | jika388 | I only have one screen resolution and it's ridiculuous |
| 00:54.14 | jika388 | any help would be greately appreciated |
| 00:54.23 | jean | I have two cards that are the same with three monitors. I get this error in mu Xorg.0.log (EE) fglrx(2): Cannot read V_BIOS (3) does anyone know why and a solution. I will paste the xorg.conf on a pastebin if it will help. Thanks |
| 00:54.54 | abrotman | jika388: what's your card? and which driver? |
| 00:55.06 | abrotman | gravity: tonight is broken X night :) |
| 00:55.20 | peterS | that's every night |
| 00:55.31 | abrotman | dpkg: what are we going to do tonight |
| 00:55.32 | dpkg | abrotman: Same thing we do every night. Try to take over the world. |
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| 00:56.03 | gravity | abrotman: fglrx isn't my problem |
| 00:56.14 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:56.35 | abrotman | Dewi: it'd be 1999 |
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| 00:57.12 | Dewi | abrotman: nah people were claiming linux was "desktop ready" even back then |
| 00:57.29 | abrotman | i guess there were 3d cards then ... |
| 00:57.33 | peterS | 3D isn't "desktop", it is "games" and "in-store demos" |
| 00:57.38 | Dewi | abrotman: although now that I think about it, windows was 98 or whatever back then, so maybe linux was actually closer to being a real contender :) |
| 00:57.59 | Dewi | peterS: nah most people seem to want beryl. Linux doesn't really have games. :) |
| 00:58.07 | simonrvn | Dewi: windows nowadays is just insecure POS eye candy |
| 00:58.23 | peterS | Dewi: beryl is for in-store demos. it's for showing off to other people. you wouldn't want it if you were the only one who ever saw your computer |
| 00:58.25 | Dewi | simonrvn: I can't help it if you really think that. |
| 00:58.33 | Dewi | simonrvn: remember we are talking about *windows 98* |
| 00:58.50 | Dewi | simonrvn: I really cannot emphasize enough how far things have come (although they still have a hell of a long way to go!) |
| 00:58.51 | simonrvn | no, hastalavista |
| 00:58.51 | robboplus | is it possible to automate a telnet based command? i would need to login to some localhost based console via telnet, send a command and logout.. does it sound sane or..? :) |
| 00:59.10 | peterS | robboplus: telnet takes stdin |
| 00:59.17 | simonrvn | Dewi: please note i siad "nowadays" |
| 00:59.19 | jika388 | abrotman, is there an easy way to find out what card and driver i have? |
| 00:59.21 | simonrvn | said* |
| 00:59.22 | robboplus | peterS :( |
| 00:59.24 | Dewi | robboplus: there is a tcl-related toolkit called 'expect' |
| 00:59.32 | abrotman | jika388: lspci | grep VGA |
| 00:59.36 | Dewi | robboplus: which is designed for automating console apps |
| 00:59.39 | peterS | robboplus: what? that answers your question. telnet itself takes stdin. that means you can script it. |
| 00:59.39 | simonrvn | *fwapfwapfwapfwap* |
| 00:59.43 | robboplus | Dewi oh... hm... i think i recall that one from deep past, yes |
| 00:59.57 | Dewi | peterS: I don't think you can just pipe stuff to telnet. It does stuff to the termincal |
| 01:00.18 | Dewi | peterS: doesn't it? |
| 01:00.18 | peterS | Dewi: yes, but have you tried it? |
| 01:00.18 | robboplus | peterS, Dewi: expect seems the option, doesn't it |
| 01:00.21 | jean | ok, what about this: has anyone tried the open source driver for ati and it works (2 dual head cards) |
| 01:00.24 | Dewi | peterS: probably, about 6 years ago though |
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| 01:00.38 | robboplus | piping wouldn't work with telnet but in fact expect might do it.. |
| 01:00.41 | peterS | expect has the rather considerable disadvantage that you have to write code that looks like tcl |
| 01:00.49 | Dewi | yep. |
| 01:00.53 | peterS | robboplus: you haven't tried piping to telnet, have you? why do you say it wouldn't work? |
| 01:00.59 | jika388 | abrotman the hardware is pretty old, here is the output "00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+]" |
| 01:01.00 | lightning | how do you disable the tty email notification |
| 01:01.09 | peterS | lightning: 'biff n'? |
| 01:01.09 | Dewi | peterS: I'd try it if I knew of a telnetd that still existed |
| 01:01.11 | robboplus | i will learn tcl if i have to... i really need to control some stupid thing over telnet and it's a pain to do it manually |
| 01:01.18 | abrotman | jika388: when you configured X .. what bit depth did you choose ? |
| 01:01.33 | Dewi | robboplus: what you're describing sounds trivial enough to throw together without knowing tcl. just read the 'expect' manual |
| 01:01.35 | abrotman | jika388: IIRC .. you have to choose 8 .. those cards aren't worth a penny |
| 01:01.37 | robboplus | peterS in fact i never tried to pipe nor i have a clue how do i do it exactly |
| 01:01.45 | robboplus | Dewi hm |
| 01:02.04 | stoned | I like pipes |
| 01:02.09 | Dewi | robboplus: if you want to try piping just create a file containing your login text and command, and try 'telnet foo.com < file' |
| 01:02.13 | robboplus | it's a simple command or a few, one of them takes no arg even.. |
| 01:02.19 | peterS | stoned: not _that_ kind of pipe, dude |
| 01:02.19 | stoned | peterS: hey man |
| 01:02.22 | stoned | hehe |
| 01:02.27 | lightning | peterS: biff n? |
| 01:02.40 | robboplus | Dewi hm that's basically similar to what expect does, isn't it? |
| 01:02.48 | peterS | lightning: if you have biff installed. I guess debian doesn't by default. it may not be the same notification you're thinking of anyway. |
| 01:02.54 | robboplus | lol stoned |
| 01:03.00 | jika388 | abrotman im not shure, when i got to that step in the install process i told it the resolutions and then it gave me a red screen saying a step had failed and asked me to re try, it did and it completed successfully but never asked me any X related things again |
| 01:03.16 | abrotman | jika388: paste your X config somewhere |
| 01:03.17 | abrotman | !paste |
| 01:03.17 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel use instead: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 01:03.35 | peterS | yjrtr |
| 01:03.39 | Dewi | robboplus: expect allows you to do it less blindly, and wait until it's ready |
| 01:03.44 | peterS | there's a special paste site now for position-independent code? |
| 01:03.45 | robboplus | Dewi assuming that it would work.. i shouldn't expect any reply from piped telnet, should i? |
| 01:04.02 | jika388 | abrotman, where? I assume you mean a website not here in the channel? |
| 01:04.21 | Dewi | robboplus: same output you'd normally get, unless you pipe that too |
| 01:04.21 | robboplus | Dewi or i will just learn expect.. seems a good solution |
| 01:04.36 | robboplus | dewi so the pipe is two directional? |
| 01:04.39 | Dewi | robboplus: however I don't think the piped telnet thing will work. But it's easy to try |
| 01:04.48 | abrotman | !pastewithoutx |
| 01:04.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
| 01:04.52 | stoned | bi-directional is the correct term |
| 01:04.57 | Dewi | robboplus: no, pipes are unidirectional. But any program in unix has 3 of them |
| 01:05.00 | robboplus | Dewi and how about hmm... piping into actual screen session of that console? |
| 01:05.09 | robboplus | Dewi is it crazy enough? :s |
| 01:05.25 | robboplus | stoned thank you.. my English sucks ass :( |
| 01:05.26 | Dewi | robboplus: everything is piped to and from your console by default |
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| 01:05.44 | robboplus | Dewi so do you think that screen session would handle it as well? |
| 01:05.44 | stoned | anytime :) |
| 01:05.54 | robboplus | stoned i figure ;) |
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| 01:09.09 | jika388 | abrotman i have pasted my xorg.conf on pastebin |
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| 01:09.35 | robboplus | now i have a question of my life... how do you pipe stuff into detached screen session? |
| 01:09.44 | MangosDebian | jika388: do we get to guess the url? :) |
| 01:09.45 | robboplus | i really wish it was possible |
| 01:10.00 | robboplus | hello MangosDebian :) |
| 01:10.05 | MangosDebian | robboplus: hello |
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| 01:10.29 | disappear | hi, could someone tell me what package the mail command belongs to? |
| 01:10.36 | disappear | i have a system installed that doesn't have it |
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| 01:10.57 | jika388 | sorry "http://pastebin.com/d17290631" that should do it, i think |
| 01:11.17 | robboplus | oh wow... -X |
| 01:11.32 | ruser___ | gravity yes, i was right, everything was solved after the reboot.. except somehow my grub entry got fuckedup... everything was root=/dev/sda6 but now all of a sudden is sda5 |
| 01:11.42 | gravity | ruser___: Cool |
| 01:12.23 | Dewi | robboplus: um... just pipe from inside the screen session |
| 01:12.48 | robboplus | Dewi hm i just tried -X and it is meant to work but it doesn't... |
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| 01:13.07 | robboplus | and what do you mean by piping from inside? |
| 01:13.29 | Dewi | robboplus: well why do you suddenly need to interact with screen? you said you just needed to telnet, run a command, log out |
| 01:13.35 | robboplus | what i mean is that the console is running on screen and i would like to try to inject a command without attaching to that screen session |
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| 01:13.54 | robboplus | i'm trying to avoid telnet at all and that would be the other option if it worked |
| 01:14.04 | Dewi | robboplus: hmm |
| 01:14.11 | jean | ok what about vesa can I get some support on that I know some of you do not like fglrx |
| 01:14.16 | Dewi | robboplus: I dunno, that sounds hard |
| 01:14.25 | davidL | I'm attempting to install Debian Testing (today's release snapshot)--the installation is stuck at tasksel "Retrieving package 84 of 84." The holographic shell doesn't show any errors. Any ideas what's causing this? |
| 01:14.38 | gravity | jean: You'll have to totally remove fglrx to get vesa to work |
| 01:14.38 | robboplus | Dewi: -X Execute <cmd> as a screen command in the specified session. |
| 01:14.49 | robboplus | Dewi isn't it what i think it is? |
| 01:15.14 | Dewi | robboplus: that will be a screen command, not a bash command |
| 01:15.17 | robboplus | oh. |
| 01:15.23 | Dewi | robboplus: but you can probably find one to type stuff to a particular screen |
| 01:15.36 | robboplus | Dewi digging in there... |
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| 01:15.49 | abrotman | jika388: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. when it asks you about bit depth .. choose 8 |
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| 01:16.08 | jean | gravity: tahnks for clarifying that although I do not like the answer ;) |
| 01:16.31 | Dewi | robboplus: screen has an 'exec' command for starting processes... |
| 01:16.43 | gravity | jean: Talk to ati and make them contribute to the xorg glx instead of bundling their own |
| 01:17.18 | robboplus | Dewi i'm looking at options now and i really can't find anything that looks like it |
| 01:17.40 | Dewi | robboplus: for sending input see 'stuff', 'process', and 'paste' |
| 01:17.56 | robboplus | hm. |
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| 01:18.35 | jika388 | thankyou abrotman i will try that, thank you for you time it was much appreciated. one last thing, do i need to kill x before i do that? |
| 01:18.51 | abrotman | jika388: no .. but it won't take effect until you restart X |
| 01:19.05 | abrotman | that i know of anyways |
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| 01:27.50 | davidL | Anyone? |
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| 01:29.44 | cafuego | Bueller? |
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| 01:30.12 | Ronin | bueller? |
| 01:30.42 | cafuego | barbarian |
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| 01:31.49 | cafuego | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ferris_Bueller's_Day_Off |
| 01:32.02 | savetheWorld | oh yeah |
| 01:32.10 | Ronin | oh i know the movie quite well,leisure rules |
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| 01:33.12 | MangosDebian | dooo bowmp bowmp |
| 01:33.21 | Sweetandy | Does anybody here use Claws Mail, aka Sylpheed Claws? |
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| 01:34.18 | datadr|nker | hi guys which DVD contains the ipw 3945 non-free drivers? |
| 01:34.34 | Sweetandy | I'm using Debian Sid and Claws Mail v2.10.0, and when I am composing a new message, the letter "i" acts as a hotkey to toggle the ruler rather than enter the character "i". What's with this? |
| 01:36.36 | Sweetandy | It doesn't make any sense to make a character a hotkey in email composition |
| 01:36.48 | Sweetandy | (I should have just learned gnus) |
| 01:37.07 | Ronin | or not run sid ;) |
| 01:37.49 | Sweetandy | Ronin: The thing is I have thousands of emails I've done now, and this is the first time it's been a problem |
| 01:37.51 | Sweetandy | But you're probably right. |
| 01:37.54 | Sweetandy | Bad choice on my part |
| 01:38.07 | datadr|nker | hey guys, my etch install does not recognize my wireless card (ipw3945) or my ethernet card (tg3). i think the only way to get something on it is a cd, does anyone know where i can download these packages seperate from apt-get? |
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| 01:38.35 | datadr|nker | i need ipw3945-modules-2.6-686 firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d from the non-free repo |
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| 01:39.47 | krazykit | datadr|nker, http://packages.debian.net/ |
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| 01:40.17 | datadr|nker | thanks krazykit |
| 01:43.31 | |hirr| | where to get latest d-i ? |
| 01:43.47 | |hirr| | !d-i |
| 01:43.48 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 01:43.48 | ys76 | get yourself? |
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| 01:46.02 | dacs | hi all |
| 01:46.18 | stoned | go johnny go go go |
| 01:46.27 | dacs | hey stoned |
| 01:46.31 | stoned | hi |
| 01:46.33 | Ronin | go go speed racer? |
| 01:46.39 | MangosDebian | stoned! |
| 01:46.41 | stoned | no man, johnny b. good |
| 01:46.44 | stoned | hi mango |
| 01:46.47 | stoned | whas up buddy |
| 01:46.50 | dacs | i have a question guys , why is my box keep bounding to 192.168.1.104 |
| 01:46.55 | MangosDebian | my otha brotha from anotha mutha :) |
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| 01:47.12 | krazykit | dacs, probably because your dhcp server keeps assigning that to you. |
| 01:47.14 | stoned | dacs: because it is using DHCP and your router has DHCP server and it is giving you an ip address |
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| 01:47.18 | robboplus | MangosDebian lol |
| 01:47.20 | MangosDebian | chillin, movie etc |
| 01:47.26 | stoned | !tell dacs -about networking |
| 01:47.30 | stoned | !tell dacs -about interfaces |
| 01:47.33 | stoned | !tell dacs -about dhcp |
| 01:48.03 | stoned | which movie? |
| 01:48.14 | MangosDebian | van wilder2 |
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| 01:48.21 | stoned | that movie was horrible |
| 01:48.35 | MangosDebian | meh, has its moments. ive seen everything else too much |
| 01:48.47 | dacs | stoned but i am not getting to the internet |
| 01:48.49 | robboplus | MangosDebian you sure? :) |
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| 01:48.56 | MangosDebian | what can I say, has some good boobie scenes :) |
| 01:49.00 | robboplus | lol |
| 01:49.01 | stoned | dacs: check router config |
| 01:49.14 | robboplus | MangosDebian basically this movie is about boobies |
| 01:49.16 | loca| | re |
| 01:49.18 | stoned | MangosDebian: just watch porn |
| 01:49.18 | loca| | no, i'm having a dell server with new sata disks that debian etch installer wont detect, so i need to try the latest d-i, maybe it includes the modules for that |
| 01:49.23 | loca| | where to get latest d-i ? |
| 01:49.26 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 01:49.26 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 01:49.38 | MangosDebian | robboplus: well, part 1 was better, but they tried. better than I could act :) |
| 01:49.51 | robboplus | and i prefer asian tits to be honest :s |
| 01:49.56 | MangosDebian | heh |
| 01:50.18 | robboplus | and yes, you wouldn't be able to show your boobies :) |
| 01:50.21 | stoned | inappropriate |
| 01:50.36 | MangosDebian | stoned: dude! do you ever not want to watch a movie without pulling on it or what lol |
| 01:50.44 | robboplus | lol |
| 01:50.45 | dacs | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.58 | stoned | dacs: check your dns server |
| 01:51.00 | robboplus | stoned do you like pipes and boobies or just pipes? |
| 01:51.03 | stoned | in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 01:51.07 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:51.14 | dacs | stoned on the router |
| 01:51.18 | Dewi | mmm pipes and boobies in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 01:51.20 | stoned | no on your box |
| 01:51.27 | stoned | your router is your dns server |
| 01:51.39 | stoned | or should be, otherwise it should forward you the dns server ad dy too |
| 01:51.40 | Dewi | let's try and focus the topic just a little :P |
| 01:51.47 | stoned | what is in i |
| 01:51.50 | stoned | ifconfig |
| 01:51.54 | robboplus | Dewi mm boobies |
| 01:52.19 | stoned | i like everything |
| 01:52.40 | dacs | stoned eth0 |
| 01:53.00 | stoned | dacs: do you know anything about networking? |
| 01:53.48 | dacs | stoned a little |
| 01:54.11 | stoned | dacs: if your other computer is getting to the internet on your router with dhcp and so should this one |
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| 01:55.18 | dacs | stoned it's getting the DNS |
| 01:55.37 | stoned | dacs: nslookup google.com |
| 01:55.41 | stoned | or ping |
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| 01:56.23 | robboplus | how do you press enter in bash string? |
| 01:56.23 | dacs | stoned i can't ping my router, keep getting destination unreachable |
| 01:56.44 | stoned | dacs: ok... |
| 01:56.51 | stoned | dacs: but you can get a dhcp address? |
| 01:56.56 | stoned | thats fucked up mate |
| 01:57.08 | stoned | dacs: sudo ifdown eth0 |
| 01:57.21 | dacs | stoned i did that from root |
| 01:57.24 | stoned | dacs: what does /etc/network/interfaces say |
| 01:57.28 | stoned | paste it somewhere if you can |
| 01:57.40 | abrotman | dacs: do you have any route at all? or an IP? |
| 01:57.47 | abrotman | robboplus: ask #bash |
| 01:57.53 | dacs | stoned i can because that box is not on the network |
| 01:58.28 | stoned | dacs: make the entry for eth0 look like this |
| 01:58.30 | dacs | abrotman yes i keep getting 192.168.1.104, even when i deleted that ip from my router dhcp router |
| 01:58.33 | stoned | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 01:58.43 | stoned | then make sure all your wires are properly connected |
| 01:58.48 | abrotman | and your route ? |
| 01:58.57 | abrotman | can you ping your own IP ? |
| 01:59.07 | dacs | it's wireless |
| 01:59.08 | stoned | then ifup eth0 and see if you can get an ip from router |
| 01:59.16 | stoned | ok, now you're talking to the wrong guy |
| 01:59.22 | stoned | i know nothing of wireless |
| 01:59.39 | stoned | I suppose I should have asked you that earlier |
| 01:59.53 | dacs | i can ping 192.168.1.104 |
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| 02:00.37 | abrotman | route -n |
| 02:02.44 | dacs | abrotman des:192.168.1.0 GW:0.0.0.0., Mask 255.255.255.0, Flag:u |
| 02:03.11 | abrotman | from what command ? |
| 02:03.27 | dacs | abrotman 2nd line des:0.0.0.0, GW:192.168.1.1, Mask:0.0.0.0, flag UG |
| 02:03.27 | abrotman | there should be another line |
| 02:03.29 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 02:03.41 | abrotman | your gateway/router is 1.1 ? |
| 02:03.47 | dacs | abrotman yes |
| 02:04.20 | lightning | can i get a calendar/clock for the desktop of icewm |
| 02:05.18 | abrotman | icewm has many different configs |
| 02:05.20 | abrotman | or themese |
| 02:05.22 | dacs | abrotman i can ping it's own ip (192.168.1.104) from the same box. i can't ping the router (192.168.1.1) from that box |
| 02:05.47 | abrotman | dacs: what kind of wifi is it ? |
| 02:05.47 | dacs | abrotman also i can ping 192.168.1.104 from a diffrent box |
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| 02:05.58 | abrotman | maybe more than one box has 104 ? |
| 02:06.08 | lightning | thanks abrotman |
| 02:06.46 | dacs | abrotman but i erased the whole DHCP table on the router and i am +ve all of the PC are getting auto Ip |
| 02:07.06 | abrotman | dacs: okay |
| 02:07.16 | dacs | it was working just fine ...i don't know what happen |
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| 02:08.19 | dacs | abrotman it's showing as `mscar' for the clinet name , but my host name is Asterik |
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| 02:08.39 | dacs | abrotman i rebooted the box over 3 times now |
| 02:08.47 | abrotman | what is mscar ? |
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| 02:09.17 | dacs | abrotman that is what asigend to 192.168.1.104 in the router DHCP Client table |
| 02:09.31 | abrotman | yes .. i got that .. is mscar another box on your network ? |
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| 02:10.26 | dacs | nope , i was as of right now i only have 2 box on the network (this one and its a windows) and the other one which we are trying to fix |
| 02:10.35 | abrotman | can you restart the router ? |
| 02:10.38 | abrotman | you'll drop out of irc |
| 02:11.10 | dacs | abrotman no problem |
| 02:11.19 | MangosDebian | dacs: are you running vmware by chance? |
| 02:11.29 | dacs | abrotman do you want me to shutdown debian box as well |
| 02:11.38 | dacs | abrotman no sir |
| 02:12.57 | dacs | abrotman is there anywhere else other than interfaces where there could be a possablitly that 192.168.1.104 is man assigend |
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| 02:13.21 | somian | Howdy Debianistas. |
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| 02:13.48 | abrotman | dacs: check /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:14.13 | dacs | abrotman there is no ip assigend it's inet dhcp for eth0 |
| 02:14.14 | somian | Hay. Has anyone ever come across discussion (or better, participated in discussion) about changing bash to support returning globbed filenames with escaped spaces? |
| 02:14.36 | dacs | abrotman i will shutdown that box and restart the router and see |
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| 02:15.09 | abrotman | somian: such as ? |
| 02:15.50 | somian | shell escapes, quoting. changing the meaning of " " (space) to the shell |
| 02:16.11 | abrotman | you mean like `ls som\ i*` ? |
| 02:16.20 | dacs | abrotman please tell me, why everytime i do /etc/init.d/networking restart it bound to 192.168.1.104 |
| 02:16.33 | abrotman | dacs: your router remembers your MAC and gives it the same |
| 02:16.35 | somian | That's not output, that's input. I'm talking about output. |
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| 02:16.48 | abrotman | somian: uhm .. ask #bash ? |
| 02:16.57 | somian | Guess what. |
| 02:17.02 | abrotman | you did ? |
| 02:17.09 | somian | binnnn-go |
| 02:17.14 | abrotman | they told you to come here ? |
| 02:17.20 | davidL | I'm attempting to install Debian Testing (today's release snapshot)--the installation is stuck at tasksel "Retrieving package 84 of 84." The holographic shell doesn't show any errors. Any ideas what's causing this? |
| 02:17.32 | somian | Of course not. That would have too courteous and non-ignorant. |
| 02:17.44 | MangosDebian | somian: pipe to sed to swap space with \ isnt an option? |
| 02:17.56 | abrotman | #bash telling you to come here would be courteous ? |
| 02:18.27 | rokra | Nobody know if we can add filter in the transport part in exim? |
| 02:18.32 | somian | They did the classic underachieving IRC wannbee-hacker stunt that the stupid arrogant wimp does when confronted with something they cannot grok: "Huh? Why would you want to do that?" :-) |
| 02:19.36 | abrotman | well .. there is that part of it :) |
| 02:20.14 | MangosDebian | somian: i assume you need bash to do it rather than manipulate the data itself? |
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| 02:22.30 | twobitsprite | I have a QT application, but I don't have kde or anything installed... and the app looks like crap... is there any way to install qt themes without installing kde? |
| 02:23.34 | epsilon | twobitsprite: depends on dependency |
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| 02:24.52 | yvhaarle | Lenny - no sound after hibernation - somebody has a clue? |
| 02:25.20 | davidL | anyone...? installation getting stuck at tasksel? :( |
| 02:26.26 | abrotman | don't use tasksel |
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| 02:27.35 | davidL | abrotman: well it automatically does it during install |
| 02:28.01 | davidL | I chose only "standard" packages or w/e |
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| 02:29.50 | abrotman | i uncheck everything and then hit ok |
| 02:29.57 | fraser | can someone tell me how to rename an iPod attached to my computer? |
| 02:30.23 | gkahla | i'm trying to get an NFS mounted by a client who's IP is assigned by DHCP - can I map the export to a subnet generically? anyone know of a good tutorial? |
| 02:30.25 | maxamillion | fraser: there should be an option to do that with an application like GTKpod |
| 02:31.30 | fraser | maxamillion, well for gtkpod to work, it wants my ipod to be name 'iPod'. thats why i want to change it |
| 02:32.14 | maxamillion | fraser: oh, strange ... well can you rename the volume from within your file browser? |
| 02:32.19 | fraser | maxamillion, actually i think i worked it out. thankyou for trying |
| 02:32.36 | maxamillion | fraser: anytime |
| 02:32.56 | gkahla | fraser: open rhythmbox, right-click on the iPod in the left-hand column -> Rename |
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| 02:33.11 | fraser | gkahla, thanks |
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| 02:34.11 | gkahla | did you get it renamed, fraser ? |
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| 02:34.38 | fraser | gkahla, yes. thankyou. |
| 02:34.42 | davidL | abrotman: sorry to bother you but do you know what tasksel's "standard" installs? |
| 02:35.08 | davidL | better yet, is this information online in the form of a manpage by any chance? |
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| 02:35.39 | cartesian1984 | Why is the bootpc port open? |
| 02:35.41 | cartesian1984 | Er. |
| 02:35.42 | cartesian1984 | Wow. |
| 02:35.46 | cartesian1984 | That was really poorly phrased. |
| 02:35.48 | cartesian1984 | I mean, wow. |
| 02:35.52 | cartesian1984 | Let me start over. |
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| 02:36.37 | abrotman | davidL: man tasksel |
| 02:37.33 | davidL | I don't have any debian machines :( |
| 02:37.34 | cartesian1984 | nmap says that, on localhost, port 68 is open. This is the bootpc port. I don't see why it's open. netstat -ltnp doesn't say anything. |
| 02:37.39 | abrotman | davidL: ah .. |
| 02:37.50 | abrotman | davidL: tasksel --help in the install console ? |
| 02:37.51 | cartesian1984 | abrotman: yeah, it can take me a while if I've been up for lone enough :) |
| 02:38.05 | cartesian1984 | abrotman: fortunately at least my grammar and syntax don't suffer :) |
| 02:38.16 | abrotman | just your keyboard skills :) |
| 02:38.31 | davidL | thanks abrotman ;) |
| 02:38.49 | abrotman | cartesian1984: can you telnet to the port ? |
| 02:39.40 | cartesian1984 | abrotman: nope. Connection refused. You'd get at least a banner normally, right? |
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| 02:40.15 | abrotman | cartesian1984: or it'd wait |
| 02:40.18 | zinx | cartesian1984: did you run netstat -ltnp as root? |
| 02:40.31 | cartesian1984 | zinx: oh, no, about to do that now. |
| 02:40.40 | cartesian1984 | nite613_: same output. |
| 02:40.43 | cartesian1984 | Er. |
| 02:40.52 | robboplus | what would be the easiest example of at command? |
| 02:40.55 | cartesian1984 | nite613_: sorry, kbd-fu is weak at this hour. |
| 02:41.04 | cartesian1984 | zinx: same output. |
| 02:41.32 | MangosDebian | rofl -> http://www.middlecity.com/murphy.shtml |
| 02:41.35 | zinx | well it would help if you listed udp as well :P |
| 02:41.49 | zinx | cartesian1984: netstat -lunp |
| 02:41.55 | cartesian1984 | Hehe, whoops. |
| 02:42.00 | zinx | but afaik that's DHCP stuff |
| 02:42.13 | cartesian1984 | dhclient, yeah. Should it be listening on that address? |
| 02:42.15 | zinx | almost certainly running because you're using DHCP to get your IP/etc |
| 02:42.19 | zinx | it should. |
| 02:42.37 | cartesian1984 | Oh, okay. Just having a paranoid moment. |
| 02:44.16 | gkahla | man mount |
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| 02:46.23 | robboplus | at 6am today sleep 1 <---why doesn't it work? says Garbled time |
| 02:46.48 | robboplus | taken from man: "to run a job at 1am tomorrow, you would do at 1am tomorrow." |
| 02:47.47 | abrotman | robboplus: 6am tomorrow ? |
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| 02:48.11 | robboplus | hm i basically need even simpler call, like 6am |
| 02:48.17 | robboplus | and at 6am doesn't work |
| 02:48.19 | robboplus | i don't get it |
| 02:48.37 | robboplus | that's a perfect syntax accoring to man |
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| 02:49.46 | bpun | hi |
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| 02:50.34 | JeevesMoss | can anyone give me a hand with 2 issues? I need to know if there is a channel for embedded linux help, as well as help with the mount command from shell |
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| 02:51.03 | somian | Hello JeevesMoss |
| 02:51.14 | JeevesMoss | somian: hey, how's it going? |
| 02:51.31 | bpun | JeevesMoss, linux-from-scratch may be something -- perhaps montavista? |
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| 02:51.39 | abrotman | man mount ? |
| 02:51.41 | somian | erm, a bit burned out. |
| 02:52.28 | JeevesMoss | bpun: actully, I have a bytecc NAS box that claims to have Symban installed on it as well as an FTP suite, but I'd like to rip that off and put an embedded Linux on it. |
| 02:53.01 | JeevesMoss | bpun: I'd like to have a client like DYNU and FTP installed on it so I can use it as a remote backup drive for my small site. |
| 02:53.58 | JeevesMoss | ideas? anyone? |
| 02:54.03 | somian | I thought Symbian _was_ an embedded Linux. Was I wrong? |
| 02:54.11 | bpun | JeevesMoss, the nslug project may be of some value-- an arm-debian version |
| 02:54.50 | JeevesMoss | somian: sorry about that, I ment the Linux file sharing. Not Symbian. I can't remeber what it's called. |
| 02:54.56 | somian | samba |
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| 02:56.01 | bpun | JeevesMoss, what product is it? there are pretty good walkthroughs such as the example i gave you.. |
| 02:56.10 | JeevesMoss | somian: that's the one. sorry, I'm on T3s right now (just had my wisdom teeth out, so I've got some free time off work) |
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| 02:56.52 | JeevesMoss | bpun: it is a Bytecc LanDisk. |
| 02:57.48 | somian | "T3s". heh. that's very obscure. anyway good luck and sorry to hear about your health difficulties. |
| 02:57.49 | JeevesMoss | bpun: I'd REALLY like to find a stable tested version of Linux that I can shell into for this little box. it would be cool if it would take a small version of Linux to make a small cluster. |
| 02:58.09 | JeevesMoss | somian: no worries. So, any ideas on this box? |
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| 02:58.55 | Vamp898 | i did this and no i cant no longer log in as root: chsh -s /bin/dash |
| 02:59.02 | somian | nslug. |
| 02:59.59 | JeevesMoss | somian: any ideas on the mount command? I'm in shell right now, and I'd like to move all of the data to the small laptop that'll be used as the web server so I can install Linux on the NAS |
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| 03:00.22 | bpun | Vamp898, does init 1 help? |
| 03:01.05 | Vamp898 | init1 ? |
| 03:01.11 | somian | I don't understand your difficulty, JeevesMoss |
| 03:01.17 | somian | Sorry |
| 03:01.35 | cheeseboy | is there way to go from windows to debian without cd netboot or usbboot ? |
| 03:01.47 | JeevesMoss | somian: I need to get the proper syntax for the mount command to be able to mount the NAS (remote system) on the laptop. |
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| 03:01.59 | Vamp898 | cheeseboy VMWare ;) |
| 03:02.24 | cheeseboy | Vamp898, i mean on actual hd i can boot into |
| 03:02.28 | somian | Ahh, I see. You could figure that out for yourself, JeevesMoss but maybe your brain isn't 100% right now. |
| 03:02.49 | somian | You want $ info mount.smbfs I believe |
| 03:02.59 | Vamp898 | bpun: ah you mean single user mode |
| 03:03.06 | somian | In the future try $ apropos samba |
| 03:03.06 | bpun | JeevesMoss, this is a debian related channel, it's unlikely anybody else is tinkering with a bytecc lan gadget.. |
| 03:03.29 | somian | bpun: true enough, but even more unlikely fishing expediations are commonplace. |
| 03:03.38 | bpun | Vamp898, append '1' on the bootline -- guessing this may not use your preferred shell |
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| 03:04.17 | JeevesMoss | somian: ok, I want to mount a remote share. so from what I remember is "mount -v smbfs /mount/smb //192.168.0.103/$share_name$ |
| 03:04.33 | somian | I'm done, dude. good luck. |
| 03:05.04 | bpun | JeevesMoss, depends on your *nix, so you'd have to use the manual (it has examples at end) |
| 03:05.15 | bpun | man smbmount ? |
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| 03:05.40 | JeevesMoss | bpun: ok, thanks. any other ideas on the NAS? I looked on the nslu2 website, and it looks like it's only for the Linuxsys stuff |
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| 03:06.18 | Heston | Hello, how reliable are the tools that come with ntfsprogs? Does anyone have any experience with these tools and were there any problems? |
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| 03:06.38 | bpun | JeevesMoss, you may want to check out their/ask on their mailing list if it's possible to put debian on it-- architecturally may be similar to linksys's nas |
| 03:07.25 | bpun | Heston, --> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ , i don't trust the write for some reason, so i read-only mount things.. |
| 03:07.45 | tabithag | i'm running lenny and can't seem to play any avi files anymore. can someone help me try to figure out why? |
| 03:07.49 | Heston | bpun, im aware of that site, however, that doesnt tell me much without trying it myself |
| 03:08.21 | bpun | Heston, i don't mean to be rude but the #ntfs guys would know this like a notch.. |
| 03:08.32 | Heston | bpun, for a long while, write support was experimental, now its supposedly stable |
| 03:08.59 | Heston | bpun, i doubt that, this is more of linux specific question |
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| 03:09.02 | bpun | Heston, I have no clue-- but last time i read, write is stable on a pretty much cleared drive.. |
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| 03:09.33 | somian | ntfs-ng is the stable and full-featured NTFS project |
| 03:09.35 | Heston | not to mention there is only 3 people in the channel |
| 03:09.42 | somian | You need both it and FUSE |
| 03:10.08 | somian | I've run it successfully, so have many others. It's an FAQ here too, as well. |
| 03:10.29 | somian | ntfs-3g actually, sorry |
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| 03:10.44 | Heston | alright, ill check it out |
| 03:10.50 | somian | I'm building s'w named "crosstool-ng" right now so I hope I'll be excused for the confusion. |
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| 03:12.27 | Vamp898 | PAM Authentification failed or something was the error |
| 03:13.23 | JeevesMoss | somian: thanks. I'll have a look into it. |
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| 03:18.29 | lightning | didn't it always seem that the desktop should be an alt+tab option |
| 03:18.37 | lightning | quick tab, what have you |
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| 03:19.48 | Cozomo | Hello, How would I go about changing the default language from english to spanish? |
| 03:20.22 | Vamp898 | search the package |
| 03:20.29 | Vamp898 | kde i18 es |
| 03:20.41 | Vamp898 | apt-cache search kde |
| 03:20.44 | Vamp898 | it should be there |
| 03:20.55 | Vamp898 | then go to KControl |
| 03:21.11 | Vamp898 | klick on the language flags ant the rest should explain it self |
| 03:21.24 | el_isma | Vamp898: "klick"? KDE's got you, man |
| 03:21.54 | Cozomo | haha |
| 03:22.04 | Vamp898 | ou damm^^ i thought he means kde |
| 03:22.04 | el_isma | Vamp898: But what if he uses Gnome? Or the console? |
| 03:22.21 | Vamp898 | then he should said this |
| 03:22.41 | Cozomo | I use windowmaker |
| 03:22.52 | Cozomo | originally gnome |
| 03:22.56 | Cozomo | with kdebase |
| 03:22.59 | Cozomo | and I use wmaker |
| 03:23.31 | Cozomo | I love etch |
| 03:23.36 | el_isma | Cozomo: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 03:23.49 | el_isma | though that will change system default |
| 03:24.18 | Vamp898 | i thought this change only the keyboard layout? |
| 03:24.37 | Vamp898 | and font or something^^ |
| 03:24.52 | el_isma | AFAIK, it changes everything |
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| 03:25.03 | Vamp898 | ihmmm |
| 03:25.23 | dewey | dkpg: lenny |
| 03:25.34 | dewey | dkpg lenny |
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| 03:25.58 | lightning | dewey: i'm on cid now |
| 03:26.06 | lightning | sid*, excuse me |
| 03:26.06 | dewey | hmmm anyone tried lenny yet? |
| 03:26.15 | zinx | !anyone |
| 03:26.15 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with or is a guru/expert of <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 03:26.16 | lightning | dewey: i have |
| 03:26.27 | dewey | lol |
| 03:26.28 | rcy | Can anyone recommend any of the particular encrypted filesystem options available for Debian? I'm building a network backup system and want to save backup snapshots to an encrypted volume. |
| 03:26.40 | lightning | dewey: lenny is a good distro, but the kernels in sid are a lot newer |
| 03:26.46 | zinx | dewey: no, no one has ever tried lenny. it's just there to take up space, and the security updates are there to waste time. |
| 03:26.47 | dewey | lightning: how is it and how many crashes? |
| 03:26.51 | lightning | although i am getting some video glitch |
| 03:26.57 | lightning | dewey: no crashes |
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| 03:27.23 | lightning | dewey: i had an issue not pertaining to the quality of the software, but that's a different story |
| 03:27.36 | lightning | dewey: the quality is nice |
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| 03:27.47 | lightning | i enjoy running the apps in full-screen mode |
| 03:28.01 | lightning | fast startups |
| 03:28.10 | el_isma | I've always found debian-testing to be very stable |
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| 03:28.25 | lightning | my only two gripes are galeon's error questioning annoying and gnome's tooltips also annoying |
| 03:28.37 | lightning | i'd like to see those two an option in gconf-editor |
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| 03:29.01 | dewey | lightning: I see the kernel in sid are a bit newer. |
| 03:29.18 | dewey | dkpg-lenny |
| 03:29.27 | dewey | dkpg hello |
| 03:29.28 | lightning | yes, i've gone from 2.6.18-4 to 2.6.22-1 |
| 03:29.54 | dewey | dkpg! lenny |
| 03:30.05 | dewey | dkpg help |
| 03:30.06 | lightning | i'm very much a noob in this linux world though |
| 03:30.18 | lightning | i can't navigate for the life of me |
| 03:30.25 | el_isma | has anyone tried newer kernels (> 2.6.21) on laptops? did you see a better battery life? |
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| 03:31.39 | Jmax | hi, in lenny, i switched my java to sun-java6-jre, and azureus is running in arabic now :( |
| 03:33.12 | maxamillion | Jmax: oh wow ... did it by any chance change your local? |
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| 03:34.32 | Jmax | i don't think so |
| 03:34.41 | jean | does anyone know of a video card that has triple heads that is very well supported. Or one dual head and one single head cards that are very well known to work |
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| 03:34.51 | Jmax | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 03:35.52 | pike_ | lol |
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| 03:38.44 | maxamillion | jean: can it be vga? |
| 03:39.16 | jean | maxamillion: I am sory should have given more info I need pci express |
| 03:39.26 | maxamillion | Jmax: strange, is there by any chance a separate local for the JVM? |
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| 03:40.14 | kramed | el_isma: I put it on with the ticks disabled, I didnt notice a huge difference |
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| 03:40.30 | maxamillion | jean: well, the reason i ask it because i know of a device that allows you to hook 3 vga monitors into it and then to a single vga output from a machine and the device emulates a single screen to the machine and then spans all 3 displays |
| 03:40.39 | maxamillion | jean: doesn't require support on your end |
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| 03:41.07 | Jmax | maxamillion: i tried looking |
| 03:41.17 | Jmax | maxamillion: i think i might just switch to deluge anyways; thanks |
| 03:41.31 | maxamillion | Jmax: i recommend deluge :) |
| 03:42.07 | kramed | deluge is great |
| 03:42.26 | pike_ | only decent client ive used is rtorrent. native anyway. wine + utorrent is still best option for gui imo. |
| 03:42.46 | maxamillion | pike_: i would have to disagree, but to each their own |
| 03:43.15 | pike_ | problem is after a day or so python is using tons of resources.. same with java. but i dont have the best system |
| 03:43.28 | jean | maxamillion: the monitors are lcd I now have two ati sapphire cards running fglrx and am getting really frustrated with it so I think I am goiing back to hardware changes |
| 03:43.34 | kramed | try deluge or transmission |
| 03:43.48 | maxamillion | jean: ahhh ok |
| 03:44.17 | maxamillion | pike_: yes, interpreted languages will generally eat memory as time goes on |
| 03:45.49 | Jmax | deluge doesn't handle multi-file torrents very well :( |
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| 03:45.52 | Jmax | back to azureus |
| 03:46.10 | kramed | how do you figure |
| 03:46.20 | kramed | all my torrents have 40+ files |
| 03:46.31 | Jmax | i mean i can't select only specific files very well |
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| 03:46.47 | Jmax | i can't unselect all |
| 03:47.09 | kramed | uh yeah you cn |
| 03:47.09 | maxamillion | Jmax: well, deluge is still new ... it has a ways to go until its done, but its already my favorite |
| 03:47.16 | Jmax | kramed: how? |
| 03:47.52 | kramed | add the torrent, it has to already be in the queue. click files tab then right click on a file -> unselect all |
| 03:48.09 | maxamillion | heh ... nice |
| 03:48.25 | holycow | oh for f's sake |
| 03:48.31 | holycow | how do you reset a users password from cli? |
| 03:48.41 | Jmax | i'm trying |
| 03:48.44 | Jmax | it's not working |
| 03:48.45 | Jmax | what version? |
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| 03:48.56 | Jmax | i'm using 0.5 |
| 03:49.01 | kramed | I have 0.5.3, latest in sid |
| 03:49.14 | pike_ | holycow: it is a long an arduous process |
| 03:49.41 | Jmax | man passwd |
| 03:49.52 | pike_ | holycow: passwd username |
| 03:50.12 | holycow | oh it works that way too? |
| 03:50.12 | holycow | aha |
| 03:50.32 | kramed | deluge even can import peerguardian block lists |
| 03:50.50 | holycow | thank you very much |
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| 03:51.31 | Coweater | 0x49BF |
| 03:51.50 | holycow | see! |
| 03:53.03 | Supaplex | !hexdump |
| 03:53.03 | dpkg | [hexdump] where witches dispose of old spells |
| 03:53.22 | Jmax | !octaldump |
| 03:53.23 | Jmax | :< |
| 03:53.37 | shogunx | !dump |
| 03:53.37 | dpkg | dump is probably See core dump, or the act of relieving oneself of solid waste, or a backup tool - see 'man dump' and http://dump.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:54.00 | shogunx | !takingadump |
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| 03:54.27 | shogunx | dpkg, taking a dump is "err, excuse me. time for #2" |
| 03:54.28 | dpkg | shogunx: okay |
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| 03:54.40 | shogunx | !taking a dump |
| 03:54.40 | dpkg | [taking a dump] "err, excuse me. time for #2" |
| 03:54.43 | shogunx | :) |
| 03:54.52 | el_isma | bad shogunx! |
| 03:54.58 | shogunx | hehe |
| 03:55.11 | el_isma | fillin little dpkg's head with all that... |
| 03:55.37 | shogunx | poor bot will never grow up the same |
| 03:55.39 | Guerin | !qotd153 |
| 03:55.39 | dpkg | i heard qotd153 is <asg> abrotman: yes, I'm waiting for the german scat collection myself |
| 03:55.47 | hajhouse | is there any diff program in debian implementing block-move-aware diff? |
| 03:56.00 | Guerin | he already knows everyone's secrets |
| 03:58.20 | Supaplex | !dump on shogunx |
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| 03:59.42 | simonrvn | !forget taking a dump |
| 03:59.42 | dpkg | simonrvn: i forgot taking a dump |
| 03:59.47 | osmosis_ | can anyone recommend a usb ethernet adapter that works with linux? |
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| 04:00.01 | cast | thats what i said to do @ the PSU question :\ |
| 04:00.42 | shogunx | !lart Supaplex |
| 04:01.01 | Bogus8_ | So, tar has no way to do a password like rar or zip? |
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| 04:01.20 | shogunx | simonrvn, boo |
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| 04:02.43 | shogunx | Bogus8_, better to just crypt it with gpg by piping the tar output into gpg |
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| 04:03.58 | Bogus8_ | shogunx: hmm, might be easier to just use rar or something |
| 04:04.04 | cast | Bogus8_: like shogunx use tar.gpg |
| 04:04.14 | cast | Bogus8_: there is also gpg-zip |
| 04:04.15 | Bogus8_ | the point is to make my private key portable to put on my jump drive |
| 04:05.24 | shogunx | Bogus8_, and what i recommended will not allow this how? |
| 04:05.44 | Bogus8_ | shogunx: just more things I would have to install at a remote location that might not be installed |
| 04:05.47 | cast | the problem with rar/win is i don't trust them. compression programs have a history of shitty encryption, take winzip which last time i looked only encrypted the files but not the filenames :\ |
| 04:05.55 | Bogus8_ | unrar is usually installed on most systems I work on |
| 04:06.02 | Supaplex | gpg > |
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| 04:06.28 | piper69 | ok guys i vlc movie player but i can't play any mv fmhs se http://www.sotwesoora.tv/action/viewvideo/39/El_Nazer/ can smone please lp me ...even on the web i can't watch it in a full screen mode |
| 04:06.34 | shogunx | cast, than and you do not need a cluster to trivially crack those anymore |
| 04:06.37 | simonrvn | enough crap in there as it is |
| 04:06.56 | Bogus8_ | I agree that gpg would be stronger... but rar would serve the purpose.. I just want to put a strong password down and I don't care if people know what the name is |
| 04:07.06 | cast | Bogus8_: does unrar-free do compression? |
| 04:07.24 | cast | i mean encryption* |
| 04:07.34 | shogunx | simonrvn, pun intended, i take it. |
| 04:07.41 | simonrvn | nope |
| 04:07.47 | Bogus8_ | not sure, it's mainly password protection I'm looking for vs encryption |
| 04:08.19 | cast | name the .tar .avi? |
| 04:08.20 | shogunx | Bogus8_ i bet strings can beat that |
| 04:08.40 | Bogus8_ | shogunx: beat as in crack it? brute force? |
| 04:08.53 | Bogus8_ | 9 char. alph-num |
| 04:08.56 | shogunx | no, i mean show your password in plain text |
| 04:09.01 | Guerin | Bogus8_: it's not brute force when it's a matter of printing the strong out to stdout |
| 04:09.10 | Bogus8_ | and I'm not protecting super sensative data |
| 04:09.11 | Guerin | string |
| 04:09.17 | Guerin | not strong; indeed - very weak |
| 04:09.28 | Bogus8_ | explain as I'm ignorant |
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| 04:09.36 | el_isma | anyone uses TeXmacs? how do I automatically reference an equation? (numbered by Alt+*) |
| 04:09.42 | lithophyte | is there any way I can install a fake package to satisfy a depend |
| 04:09.57 | Guerin | lithophyte: yes, but it's an exceedingly unwise thing to do |
| 04:10.00 | lithophyte | *broken depend* |
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| 04:10.39 | shogunx | Bogus8_ you are aware what strings does? if not, install it and check the manpage |
| 04:10.41 | Guerin | Bogus8_: what he's saying is that rar probably stores the password in cleartext in the file. strings(1) will find it if that is the case. |
| 04:11.04 | piper69 | can someone help me with the VLC media player please |
| 04:11.12 | Guerin | piper69: just ask |
| 04:11.19 | Bogus8_ | hmm, wouldn't win programs be able to jack the string out just as easy then? |
| 04:11.22 | cast | Bogus8_: what are you trying to protect anyway? |
| 04:11.25 | el_isma | shogunx, Guerin: AFAIK, RAR doesn't store the pass in cleartext |
| 04:11.30 | Guerin | Bogus8_: in principle. |
| 04:11.32 | Bogus8_ | because I have rar crackers and they have to bruteforce |
| 04:11.39 | Guerin | el_isma: it would be a stupid design decision if it did. |
| 04:11.57 | Bogus8_ | cast: my private ssh key to carry on my jump drive and store on a hidden dir on my webserver |
| 04:11.58 | piper69 | Guerin: i vlc movie player but i can't play any mv fmhs se http://www.sotwesoora.tv/action/viewvideo/39/El_Nazer/ can smone please lp me ...even on the web i can't watch it in a full screen mode |
| 04:12.06 | shogunx | el_isma it cant be a very strong cypher that it uses. |
| 04:12.14 | cast | Bogus8_: oh, isn't there an option to passwd [encryption] that? |
| 04:12.15 | shogunx | if it does indeed use one. |
| 04:12.20 | Guerin | piper69: you're going to have to speak english |
| 04:12.32 | Bogus8_ | cast: yeah, but I want that extra little bit of protection |
| 04:12.35 | piper69 | Guerin: i do :) |
| 04:12.47 | Guerin | piper69: the above is mostly indecipherable to me |
| 04:12.58 | piper69 | Guerin: i am tryng to play a movie form that site into VLC |
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| 04:13.23 | cast | Bogus8_: so whats wrong with gpg? |
| 04:13.34 | el_isma | shogunx: from wikipedia "Older versions of the file format used a proprietary algorithm; newer versions use the AES encryption algorithm" |
| 04:13.37 | cast | Bogus8_: put gpg on your usb drive too :) |
| 04:13.45 | piper69 | Guerin: oops my damn wireless keyboard sorry |
| 04:13.52 | Bogus8_ | cast: I don't want to have to install gpg on a remote location just to use my key were as unrar will likely be there |
| 04:14.03 | Guerin | piper69: i can't even see any movies, so I can't much help you |
| 04:14.09 | Bogus8_ | cast: hmm, that's a thought... will the binary be universal? |
| 04:14.30 | piper69 | Guerin: did you go to the site |
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| 04:14.34 | Guerin | piper69: yes. |
| 04:14.44 | Guerin | Bogus8_: there is no such thing as a universal binary |
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| 04:14.51 | Guerin | and the first one to mention java gets a beating |
| 04:14.52 | shogunx | Bogus8_ mount the drive, add the binary directory therein to you path, and there you go. |
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| 04:15.10 | shogunx | libs too if necessary |
| 04:15.14 | Bogus8_ | Guerin: I agree, but I meant generally should work on most *nix systems |
| 04:15.20 | piper69 | Guerin: the movie is right there?! |
| 04:15.30 | Guerin | Bogus8_: you could statically link it. |
| 04:15.39 | shogunx | Guerin, good idea |
| 04:15.48 | Guerin | piper69: nope. Perhaps you have some flash or retarded shit installed which I don't.. |
| 04:16.03 | Guerin | i thought he wanted to be able to use it on windoze too |
| 04:16.09 | Guerin | then again |
| 04:16.17 | Guerin | he could stor a windows gpg binary on there too |
| 04:16.29 | piper69 | Guerin: yes it use flash |
| 04:16.45 | Guerin | piper69: NOFP. Contact the website eejits. |
| 04:16.49 | Bogus8_ | Guerin: for windows I use putty and have my shit in rar already |
| 04:17.02 | Guerin | Bogus8_: rar is just a stupid choice for this. |
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| 04:17.11 | shogunx | piper69 try gnash |
| 04:17.22 | Bogus8_ | Guerin: I understand that opinion I'm just trying to understand why it's so bad |
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| 04:18.04 | shogunx | Bogus8_, your "protection" is like a condom with a hole in the end? |
| 04:18.17 | Bogus8_ | what is the "hole" |
| 04:18.30 | Bogus8_ | we've covered that rar isn't plain text |
| 04:18.37 | Bogus8_ | so it would need to be bruteforced |
| 04:18.42 | putridp | How might I go about recovering a text file from a broken partition? Could I simply use dd to copy the partition to a file, then use a hex-editor? |
| 04:18.43 | piper69 | shogunx: what is gnash |
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| 04:19.11 | cast | putridp: use strings, or open it in vim. me thinks vim should be able to handle it |
| 04:19.18 | shogunx | and not a really strong cypher at likely not very many bits. trivially defeatable with readily available processing power. |
| 04:19.35 | putridp | cast: after copying the partition with dd, right? |
| 04:20.04 | cast | putridp: well, you don't have to copy it. just make sure you don't make any writes to it, which is easy enough |
| 04:20.07 | Bogus8_ | shogunx: it would take many many days to bruteforce a 9 char alpha-num and if they want my data that bad they can have it ;) |
| 04:20.22 | putridp | cast: ah okay fine. Cheers. |
| 04:20.23 | shogunx | piper69 free flash alternative. |
| 04:21.01 | Guerin | Bogus8_: that's probably because a rar bruteforcer is written by a w4rez k1dd13, not a cryptographer - it probably uses a dictionary attack, not cryptanalysis |
| 04:21.37 | Guerin | Bogus8_: just XOR your files |
| 04:21.38 | shogunx | Bogus8_, well, make sure to put the password on a post-it on the usb fob then :P |
| 04:21.45 | Guerin | that'll beat 99.999% of people |
| 04:22.11 | el_isma | Guerin: are you saying that AES is broken? |
| 04:22.21 | Bogus8_ | shogunx: :p |
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| 04:22.37 | Guerin | el_isma: no, where did I imply that? |
| 04:22.53 | cast | el_isma: i think hes saying rar sucks. AES is not broken, but its quite easy to use AES in a broken way - say CBC mode |
| 04:23.08 | Guerin | el_isma: unless rar uses AES, which I don't know |
| 04:23.32 | el_isma | Guerin: from wikipedia "Older versions of the file format used a proprietary algorithm; newer versions use the AES encryption algorithm" |
| 04:23.50 | Guerin | el_isma: fair enough. |
| 04:23.56 | Guerin | that said |
| 04:24.08 | cast | el_isma: s/CBC/ECB. my bad :). there are other subtle ways to screw up though, like using a poor RNG for generating keys and the like |
| 04:24.14 | Guerin | it's a black-box, so there's no way of knowing how well it's been done |
| 04:24.14 | tsocks | Azar: hello :) |
| 04:25.01 | Guerin | el_isma: your dedication to the cause is admirable - i don't car enearly enough to check wikipedia entry for some crappy warezware for which superior free alternatives exist. |
| 04:25.30 | shogunx | i concur. shogunx stops kicking a rotten horse. |
| 04:26.05 | el_isma | Guerin: LOL. I was curious. |
| 04:26.06 | Guerin | wahsh yo' feets before ya come in the house now, y'heah! |
| 04:26.31 | Guerin | el_isma: it's a good thing you're not a cat./ |
| 04:26.51 | el_isma | Guerin: Wikipedia never hurt anyone... :) |
| 04:27.08 | cafuego | It did. |
| 04:27.32 | cast | except britannica.. |
| 04:27.32 | Guerin | i know an undergrad political science student it hurt |
| 04:27.34 | cafuego | Or rather, the rabid morons that go around Wikipedia marking stuff for deletion did. |
| 04:27.44 | Guerin | though, in fairness, he was damn-fool enough to cite it in a paper |
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| 04:28.45 | shogunx | cafuego from my understanding those morons are getting well paid by the current US administration for that. |
| 04:28.55 | datadr|nker | hey guys, what do i need to do after i install the ipw3945 packages to make the intel wireless pro 3945ABG card to work? for instance, i have installed the daemon, the firmware and the generic module, how do i make it work? how do i make the module see the hardware? |
| 04:29.25 | cafuego | datadr|nker: Traditionally by loading it into the kernel, using modprobe. |
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| 04:29.34 | shogunx | datadr|nker, module loaded, I assume, and lspci does not see it? |
| 04:29.38 | datadr|nker | i ran modprobe ipw3945 but nothing happened |
| 04:29.42 | datadr|nker | lspci describes it correctly |
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| 04:29.49 | datadr|nker | gnetworkmanager doesn't see it |
| 04:29.55 | datadr|nker | "No network devices" |
| 04:29.57 | shogunx | iwconfig/ifconfig? |
| 04:30.02 | datadr|nker | iwconfig shows no wireless connections |
| 04:30.10 | datadr|nker | ifconfig shows loopback interface |
| 04:30.28 | infernal_jesus | datadr|nker: did you run the regulatory daemon - ipw3945d ? |
| 04:30.38 | cafuego | lspci is not related in any way to hardware being supported |
| 04:30.39 | datadr|nker | i'll do it right now |
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| 04:30.44 | t35t0r | is anyone here also on the dirvish mailing list? are the moderators on it alive? |
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| 04:31.11 | cafuego | And if `modprobe ipw3945' didn't print anything, loading succeeded... so you're at least partway there now. |
| 04:31.38 | datadr|nker | i just installed the daemon dpkg |
| 04:31.42 | datadr|nker | it started on it's own |
| 04:31.44 | datadr|nker | reboot? |
| 04:31.56 | datadr|nker | i mean i just installed ipw3945d |
| 04:32.04 | shogunx | cafuego, did i say lspci... sorry. lsmod. |
| 04:32.12 | datadr|nker | that gives us an interface in iwconfig |
| 04:32.15 | datadr|nker | thanks guys, excellent work |
| 04:32.15 | infernal_jesus | datadr|nker: did you start ipw3945d ? |
| 04:32.25 | datadr|nker | yes sir |
| 04:32.45 | datadr|nker | which in turn made gnetworkmanager work |
| 04:32.56 | infernal_jesus | datadr|nker: so what is the problem exactly? |
| 04:32.57 | datadr|nker | good stuff, this is working as good as SUSE 10.2 did so far |
| 04:33.07 | datadr|nker | infernal_jesus: i think we don't have one anymore |
| 04:33.14 | datadr|nker | the device is working |
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| 04:33.58 | el_isma | I installed lenny on a laptop and it didn't detect the USB. I know it works because ubuntu worked perfectly. Any ideas of what to try? |
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| 04:34.15 | datadr|nker | el_isma: is it a santa rosa platform laptop |
| 04:34.18 | xerophyt1 | in irssi how can leave from channel or close he channel window ? |
| 04:34.42 | Guerin | xerophyt1: /wc |
| 04:34.45 | datadr|nker | el_isma: i recommend trying to get the intel chipset driver for USB on linux if it is santa rosa, i know this is a prevalent issue |
| 04:34.45 | el_isma | datadr|nker: It's an old IBM Thinkpad 390 |
| 04:34.48 | shogunx | el_isma, dmesg|grep usb give you anything? |
| 04:34.50 | datadr|nker | oh i see |
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| 04:34.54 | xerophyt1 | Guerin: thx |
| 04:34.57 | el_isma | shogunx: no, nothing |
| 04:35.30 | infernal_jesus | datadr|nker: great :) |
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| 04:36.40 | holycow | what app is typicall used to read system mail from cli? |
| 04:36.51 | xerophyte | Guerin: when i close the /window close .. does that means i am leaving the channel .. or is there any good method to leave the channel |
| 04:37.12 | shogunx | hmm. el_isma go to http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl , follow the instructions there, and see what kmuto tells you for a driver for your usb chipset. |
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| 04:38.42 | holycow | allright mutt looks fine |
| 04:38.56 | el_isma | shogunx: and then I load it manually? |
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| 04:40.06 | shogunx | el_isma, or compile it, if necessary |
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| 04:41.40 | el_isma | shogunx: thanks. I just don't get why ubuntu worked and debian didn't... Didn't make me happy. That laptop doesn't have an ethernet card, and pcmcia is broken, so USB was the only way I had of talking to the world... |
| 04:42.35 | shogunx | el_isma, no problem. you can add it to /etc/modules to get it to load at boot time. |
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| 04:46.56 | el_isma | what's a good alternative to Derive? (Computer Algebra System) |
| 04:49.05 | shogunx | el_isma, apt-cache tells me atlas3, axiom, or gap might be what you want. |
| 04:49.54 | shogunx | among others, that is. several others. |
| 04:50.29 | datadr|nker | what line should i put in sources.list for direct access to debian's main and non-free repositories for etch? can't find tihis on google |
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| 04:51.22 | tsocks | datadr|nker: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main non-free |
| 04:51.34 | datadr|nker | tsocks: thanks so much |
| 04:51.35 | tsocks | datadr|nker: it should work ... |
| 04:51.42 | datadr|nker | for both main and non free? |
| 04:51.44 | datadr|nker | thanks |
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| 04:53.00 | el_isma | shogunx: nope. They don't do what I need. Maxima seems to work, but it isn't pretty (I use wxmaxima) |
| 04:53.20 | datadr|nker | tsocks: it says W: Couldn't stat source package list in synaptic |
| 04:53.33 | datadr|nker | for the main and non free you just provided |
| 04:54.31 | tsocks | datadr|nker: did you do an 'apt-get update' or 'aptitude update' as root ? |
| 04:54.44 | datadr|nker | no i will try that |
| 04:55.08 | datadr|nker | there it goes |
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| 04:55.21 | datadr|nker | thanks a lot man |
| 04:55.32 | nn-bt-laptop3 | hi all |
| 04:55.49 | tsocks | datadr|nker: did it work ? |
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| 04:56.25 | nn-bt-laptop3 | got the bluetooth internet working on this laptop just now |
| 04:57.25 | datadr|nker | tsocks: it worked. |
| 04:57.36 | datadr|nker | synaptic is goin at it |
| 04:57.45 | tsocks | datadr|nker: ;) |
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| 04:59.28 | nn-bt-laptop3 | so currently i am running 4 webservers, voip gateway -> gentoo-cp -> pand host and usb bluetooth -> 3 bluetooth laptops playing various audio streems and chat etc. |
| 04:59.33 | helloAI | anybody knows a good CS Python book? |
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| 05:00.19 | nn-bt-laptop3 | :) |
| 05:00.20 | el_isma | helloAI: do you know programming? |
| 05:00.27 | helloAI | el_isma: no |
| 05:00.40 | nn-bt-laptop3 | verry easy to setup and VERRY cheep :) |
| 05:02.29 | el_isma | helloAI: Then I'd recommend you: http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/ , http://docs.python.org/tut/ , http://www.diveintopython.org/ . In that order. The last one (dive into python) is aimed to people that know how to program, but it is useful anyway. |
| 05:02.59 | el_isma | helloAI: Alan Gauld's tutorial is very good |
| 05:03.04 | helloAI | el_isma; great. i'll check those. |
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| 05:03.40 | maddash | omg. is this #ubuntu? |
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| 05:05.10 | triplc | hi all |
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| 05:07.06 | helloAI | el_isma: Gauld's book looks very cool. thanks for the links. |
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| 05:07.29 | el_isma | helloAI: no prob :) |
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| 05:08.05 | triplc | How to specify "out going interface" in a route to a secondary ip address? I type the command "ip route add default via x.x.x.x dev eth1.5:1 table xxxx" but it does not recognize that eth1.5:1; it just see it as eth1.5. It is quite problem because I set NAT (Masquerade using IPTABLES) on both eth1.5, and eth1.5:1. Please tell me how to get it done. |
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| 05:09.28 | triplc | (I am sorry if my question was not fit debian room... but I do not know where to ask) |
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| 05:10.14 | _agn_ | I get this "GPG error: http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" when doing an ap-get update |
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| 05:10.47 | _agn_ | should i ignore the warning ? |
| 05:11.37 | el_isma | triplc: The question is fine, I can't help you. You could try your luck in #ubuntu, #kubuntu, and the offtopic channels... Maybe somebody is able to help you. |
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| 05:14.38 | holycow | does anyone here use denyhosts to protect ssh from bruteforce attacks? |
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| 05:15.06 | holycow | mine keeps on blocking all ips after first login which is weird, curious if there is someone experienced with denyhosts package here |
| 05:15.59 | el_isma | holycow: I use it, no problems. Check your conf file |
| 05:16.34 | Guerin | _agn_: you should read the topic |
| 05:16.45 | holycow | el_isma, indeed, okay checking it again |
| 05:16.50 | holycow | i'm sure i'm missing something obvious |
| 05:17.15 | el_isma | did you modify the file? |
| 05:17.28 | el_isma | I can paste mine if that helps you |
| 05:17.29 | holycow | yes thats the odd thing, i thought i had everything right |
| 05:17.38 | holycow | el_isma, that would indeed, pastebin.ca ? |
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| 05:17.41 | niru | hi all |
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| 05:18.07 | _agn_ | Guerin: ah, thanx |
| 05:18.11 | _agn_ | ddin;t see it |
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| 05:19.32 | el_isma | holycow: http://pastebin.ca/641386 |
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| 05:19.38 | holycow | thank you kindly! |
| 05:20.55 | _agn_ | hm, i now get an "Unknown error executing gpgv" |
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| 05:55.10 | frankr | I need to make a custom init.d script, is there a tutorial or somethign on how to this somewhere? |
| 05:55.46 | stew | frankr: /etc/init.d/README and /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 05:56.01 | frankr | stew: Thanks a bunch |
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| 05:59.24 | gustavo | hello, can someone help me with vsftpd? I'm trying to set up a vsftpd server behind a cable modem and a router. I did the NAT on port 21000 but ppl from internet cant find my server. Anyway, it logs the attempt. |
| 05:59.36 | simonrvn | Guerin: you awake? |
| 06:00.06 | el_isma | gustavo: does it work from within your network? |
| 06:00.08 | simonrvn | Guerin: seems NZ gov't is just as rotten as the CA gov't when it comes to indigenous people |
| 06:00.15 | gustavo | el_isma: yes, it does... |
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| 06:02.30 | el_isma | gustavo: can you access your own server from internet? (ie: maybe people are using it wrong?) |
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| 06:04.17 | damkor | hi |
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| 06:04.49 | damkor | I need some help with BIND and caching |
| 06:04.56 | gustavo | el_isma: no, i cant... im in the same lan anyway... :P |
| 06:05.13 | simonrvn | Guerin: i'm very angry right now... the shit that the CA ambassador to guatemala saying shit about independent journalists |
| 06:05.27 | gustavo | el_isma: its strange because the vsftpd logs the attempt... wanna try? |
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| 06:05.39 | el_isma | gustavo: sure |
| 06:06.06 | gustavo | ftp://189.4.81.165:21000 |
| 06:06.22 | gustavo | Wed Aug 1 03:07:32 2007 [pid 6584] [ftp] OK LOGIN: Client "190.64.50.106", anon password "opera@" |
| 06:06.32 | gustavo | see? |
| 06:06.39 | el_isma | gustavo: have you enabled anon logins? |
| 06:07.25 | gustavo | whats the command? do you know? |
| 06:07.34 | gustavo | el_isma: whats the command? |
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| 06:07.53 | el_isma | gustavo: "anonymous_enable" says the manpage |
| 06:08.14 | el_isma | defaults to yes |
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| 06:08.44 | gustavo | anonymous_enable=YES |
| 06:09.00 | gustavo | el_isma: yes, it is set to YES, anonymous_enable=YES |
| 06:09.38 | el_isma | dirlist_enable ? |
| 06:10.22 | el_isma | userlist_deny ? |
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| 06:10.44 | el_isma | userlist_enable |
| 06:10.56 | el_isma | gustavo: what are the values of those? |
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| 06:11.58 | gustavo | el_isma: none of this is on my config, so its default... |
| 06:13.12 | el_isma | ftp> open 189.4.81.165 21000 |
| 06:13.15 | el_isma | Connected to 189.4.81.165. |
| 06:13.18 | el_isma | 220 Bem-vindo ao servidor FTP. |
| 06:13.27 | el_isma | Name (189.4.81.165:ismael): anon |
| 06:13.30 | el_isma | 331 Please specify the password. |
| 06:13.33 | el_isma | Password: |
| 06:13.36 | el_isma | 530 Login incorrect. |
| 06:13.39 | el_isma | Login failed. |
| 06:13.42 | el_isma | gustavo: so the problem is that I can't login |
| 06:13.53 | simonrvn | 'anonymous' |
| 06:13.55 | el_isma | gustavo: anonymous anonymous works |
| 06:14.04 | gustavo | oh, nice :D |
| 06:14.07 | simonrvn | you need to put the full unabbreviated name.... |
| 06:14.13 | freetos | anyone know how to get www aliased so that www.yourdomainname.com resolves |
| 06:14.30 | simonrvn | DNS |
| 06:14.39 | gustavo | el_isma: so its working? :) |
| 06:14.44 | el_isma | gustavo: it is |
| 06:14.49 | simonrvn | freetos: hint, CNAME |
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| 06:15.15 | freetos | simonrvn, do you know the file to edit? |
| 06:15.19 | gustavo | el_isma thank you so much. Can you download the file? |
| 06:15.32 | simonrvn | that domain's zone file |
| 06:15.43 | el_isma | gustavo: no |
| 06:16.00 | gustavo | el_isma: any idea why not? |
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| 06:16.14 | simonrvn | also the reverse DNS file you'll need to edit (of course) |
| 06:16.58 | simonrvn | !tell Olgem -about root |
| 06:17.12 | el_isma | gustavo: have you got pasv_enable to yes? |
| 06:18.00 | el_isma | gustavo: if you want other people to login as anonymous, use ftp://anonymous@189.4.81.165:21000/ |
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| 06:19.30 | gustavo | el_isma: please, would you like to try to connect and download the file now? |
| 06:20.10 | holycow | el_isma, lol, i'm having a hard time understanding the default behaviour of deny hosts. i even used your conf file. just out of curiosity ... denyshosts allows a valid user to login once, and then adds the ip automatically to deny.hosts file ... does that hint at what i might be missing here? |
| 06:20.44 | el_isma | holycow: my file worked? |
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| 06:20.55 | holycow | el_isma, oddly, no |
| 06:21.17 | el_isma | holycow: Holy Cow! that's bad |
| 06:21.28 | holycow | plain weird! |
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| 06:22.37 | el_isma | holycow: even with RESET_ON_SUCCESS = yes ? :| |
| 06:23.19 | el_isma | gustavo: it isn't working. Don't know why, though |
| 06:23.20 | holycow | reinstalling clean |
| 06:23.21 | gustavo | what is the best webhosting? (cheapest)? :P |
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| 06:24.07 | holycow | uh |
| 06:24.09 | bpun | hey, i want to connect to 189.4.81.165:21000 and i can't :oO |
| 06:24.15 | holycow | pick one: best, cheapest |
| 06:24.19 | holycow | they are mutually exclusive |
| 06:24.37 | el_isma | gustavo: oddly, Konqueror at least shows me an empty listing... Opera just fails |
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| 06:24.58 | holycow | for cheapest google is full of them, for best they are hard to find because people thiink tha best == cheapest |
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| 06:25.33 | gustavo | el_isma: lol... thats weird. |
| 06:25.45 | bpun | el_isma, are you connecting from wan or lan side to ftp site? |
| 06:25.51 | gustavo | holycow: do u know bluehost? |
| 06:25.57 | el_isma | bpun: WAN |
| 06:26.07 | holycow | i can't comment on any hosts, ido my own |
| 06:26.21 | bpun | el_isma, enable ftp server to passive .. |
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| 06:26.55 | el_isma | bpun: pasv? |
| 06:27.05 | bpun | el_isma, as well as the client if nec.. |
| 06:27.18 | bpun | el_isma, what server are you using proftpd vsftpd ? |
| 06:27.32 | el_isma | bpun: gustavo is setting up vsftpd |
| 06:27.38 | bpun | ah |
| 06:27.43 | holycow | el_isma, lol so weird, yes brand new install, only change reset_on_success to yes and restarted service |
| 06:27.52 | holycow | still lets me log in once and then denyhosts the ip |
| 06:27.56 | holycow | bizarre |
| 06:28.11 | el_isma | wow... denyhosts really *hates* you :S |
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| 06:28.28 | bpun | gustavo, http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html ( ssh doesn't have this issue, so it makes sftp look good ) |
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| 06:28.54 | gurkan | using sid/i386 and the nvidia binary driver i get 0: /usr/bin/X11/X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c8631] (Backtrace:). any hints? |
| 06:29.06 | gurkan | (when running startx) |
| 06:29.24 | gustavo | bpun: how do i enable it to passive? pasv_enable? it yes already enabled... |
| 06:30.20 | bpun | gustavo, your router may need a ftp-pasv setting changed.. i've given up once on this and decided just to go ssh |
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| 06:30.41 | bpun | gustavo, the filezilla client works great for non-linux stations.. |
| 06:31.05 | bpun | gustavo, (filezilla works with sftp) |
| 06:31.27 | el_isma | winscp is nice too |
| 06:31.32 | el_isma | (for sftp) |
| 06:31.54 | bpun | el_isma, actually scp and sftp are different, heard that sftp is better.. |
| 06:32.10 | gustavo | bpun: i see, but im just vsftpd for learning porpuses (we use it on high school) :) |
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| 06:32.17 | bpun | el_isma, i don't think winscp does sftp though.. |
| 06:32.45 | triplc | How to specify "out going interface" in a route to a secondary ip address? I type the command "ip route add default via x.x.x.x dev eth1.5:1 table xxxx" but it does not recognize that eth1.5:1; it just see it as eth1.5. It is quite problem because I set NAT (Masquerade using IPTABLES) on both eth1.5, and eth1.5:1. Please tell me how to get it done. |
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| 06:33.11 | el_isma | bpun: "WinSCP :: Free SFTP and FTP client for Windows" |
| 06:33.14 | bpun | gustavo, you'll probably need to speak with the net admin then.. ask him about ftp passive setting on the routing equip |
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| 06:35.11 | bpun | el_isma, you really think i care about windows programs? |
| 06:36.04 | el_isma | bpun: You weren't sure about winscp and sftp... |
| 06:37.33 | bpun | el_isma, i told the channel that sftp and scp are not synonymous-- you made it seem their equivalent.. but heard scp is not good (as good) |
| 06:37.54 | el_isma | ok |
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| 06:38.32 | metbsd | scp is quite good |
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| 06:40.41 | el_isma | I'm going to bed. Good night/day everyone |
| 06:41.33 | gustavo | night |
| 06:42.09 | bpun | metbsd, it's slower.. ought to rather use sftp.. |
| 06:43.02 | jetscreamer | who do i have to kill to let myself use the loop module (in other words, what group do i need to add myself to so i don't have to use sudo when mounting an .iso |
| 06:43.03 | dead1ock | good |
| 06:43.04 | jetscreamer | ) |
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| 06:45.55 | ChrisW | hey all, what controls whether doing, say, ping myhost, will resolve myhost to myhost.mydomain.com? |
| 06:45.56 | jetscreamer | and where does wpa_supplicant look for it's .conf ... /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, or /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, or either, or neither? |
| 06:46.08 | ChrisW | (it works on some of my servers but not others...) |
| 06:46.16 | jetscreamer | and how do is see/set the gateway on one of those |
| 06:47.00 | jetscreamer | dns or hosts file or wins or so... arp? |
| 06:47.45 | jetscreamer | omg |
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| 06:52.33 | Azar | jetscreamer: try wheel? |
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| 06:55.34 | jetscreamer | they put that in debian didn't they iirc? |
| 06:55.54 | jetscreamer | adduser: The group `wheel' does not exist. |
| 06:55.56 | jetscreamer | nope |
| 06:56.18 | jetscreamer | i thought the;y did |
| 06:56.28 | jetscreamer | i seem to remember doing that once |
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| 06:57.06 | c7a7uk | Hey, how can I resolve the dependency of libmp3lame.so by Audacity in order to export as MP3? |
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| 06:57.40 | jetscreamer | apt-rdepends? |
| 06:57.54 | jetscreamer | but you don't seem to mean packages |
| 06:58.21 | c7a7uk | interesting, i never heard of apt-rdepends and I don't have it installed |
| 06:58.38 | jetscreamer | !info apt-rdepends |
| 06:58.40 | jetscreamer | iirc |
| 06:58.41 | dpkg | apt-rdepends: (Recursively lists package dependencies), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 92 kB |
| 06:58.41 | monokrome | Anyone know why my samba server would take a long time to respond when discovering PCs on the network, and accessing the root of a share - but be blazing fast browsing through shares? |
| 06:58.43 | Azar | jetscreamer: strangely enough, I have wheel, maybe because is a legacy from my original install: Woody |
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| 06:59.05 | jetscreamer | no it wouldn't be woody |
| 06:59.06 | Azar | jetscreamer: check your PAM, it might be there but commented |
| 06:59.10 | c7a7uk | but is there a way to search through a list of _all_ files provided by _all_ packages for _one_ specific filename? |
| 06:59.14 | jetscreamer | maybe sarge |
| 06:59.14 | sep | c7a7uk, install lame from debian-multimedia |
| 06:59.44 | sep | c7a7uk, on the web in http://packages.debian.org or using the tool apt-file |
| 06:59.46 | Azar | jetscreamer: I know for a fact that wheel is "not" recommended but it should be there |
| 06:59.59 | sep | c7a7uk, but you wont find it since its not in debian, it's in debian-multimedia |
| 07:00.04 | c7a7uk | thanks |
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| 07:00.22 | jetscreamer | Azar: but failing wheel, there must be some group or permission that would let users mount an iso |
| 07:00.26 | c7a7uk | debian-media must be new |
| 07:00.35 | jetscreamer | used to be marillat |
| 07:00.41 | jetscreamer | !debian-multimedia |
| 07:00.41 | dpkg | from memory, debian-multimedia is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>. |
| 07:00.54 | Azar | jetscreamer: don't know about any other group. I allways used and still use wheel |
| 07:00.56 | jetscreamer | same guy new channel |
| 07:01.14 | c7a7uk | I've used Ubuntu media but I couldn't find a Debian equivalent when I switched, other than PLF except that they are also very distro-specific ... (ubuntu/mandrake) |
| 07:01.31 | jetscreamer | that one rocks for a/v |
| 07:01.40 | c7a7uk | !debian-multimedia.etch |
| 07:01.40 | dpkg | To add the debian-multimedia repository, first ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. then, run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root) |
| 07:01.58 | c7a7uk | who is jm_ ? |
| 07:02.21 | jetscreamer | he knows stuff |
| 07:02.23 | sep | c7a7uk, just pick your closest mirror http://debian-multimedia.org/mirrors.html and install the debian-multimedia-keyring (thatone is in debian main) |
| 07:03.10 | sep | !apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 07:03.10 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 07:03.46 | sep | !apt-key 1F41B907 is also just install the debian-multimedia-keyring package |
| 07:03.47 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 is also just install the debian-multimedia-keyring package ; gpg --export 1F41B907 is also just install the debian-multimedia-keyring package | sudo apt-key add - |
| 07:03.53 | c7a7uk | thanks all |
| 07:03.59 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 07:04.02 | jetscreamer | fix it |
| 07:04.06 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 07:04.25 | jetscreamer | must be the pipe |
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| 07:04.51 | sep | !apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 07:04.51 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 07:04.56 | sep | was not changed |
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| 07:05.20 | c7a7uk | !apt-key 7357 |
| 07:05.20 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 7357 ; gpg --export 7357 | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 07:05.32 | c7a7uk | !apt-key test 7w0 |
| 07:05.32 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys test 7w0 ; gpg --export test 7w0 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 07:05.38 | sep | aha |
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| 07:05.46 | Guerin | c7a7uk: can you spot the pattern yet? |
| 07:05.53 | c7a7uk | !apt-key test two 7hr33 done. |
| 07:05.53 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys test two 7hr33 done. ; gpg --export test two 7hr33 done. | sudo apt-key add - |
| 07:06.01 | Guerin | !moron c7a7uk |
| 07:06.01 | dpkg | c7a7uk: You are moron #88 |
| 07:06.08 | c7a7uk | !moron Guerin |
| 07:06.09 | dpkg | Guerin: You are moron #71 |
| 07:06.21 | Guerin | monkey see, monkey do - how charming |
| 07:06.26 | c7a7uk | !moron Guerin |
| 07:06.27 | dpkg | Guerin: You are moron #48 |
| 07:06.48 | Guerin | someone call the school board, there's a nine year-old running amok with a computer |
| 07:06.52 | c7a7uk | !moron Guerin |
| 07:06.53 | dpkg | Guerin: You are moron #30 |
| 07:06.56 | Azar | jetscreamer: Add group wheel to /etc/group if desired; add pam_wheel.so group=wheel entry to /etc/pam.d/su |
| 07:07.06 | Azar | honorable Guerin, good morning |
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| 07:07.26 | Guerin | !ops c7a7uk needs his ADHD meds |
| 07:07.26 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: guerin complains about: c7a7uk needs his ADHD meds |
| 07:07.30 | c7a7uk | !moron Guerin |
| 07:07.30 | dpkg | Guerin: You are moron #10 |
| 07:07.50 | Guerin | yes, quite |
| 07:07.53 | c7a7uk | !moron Guerin |
| 07:07.53 | dpkg | Guerin: You are moron #53 |
| 07:08.00 | Azar | c7a7uk: stop it please |
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| 07:08.09 | jetscreamer | yeh |
| 07:08.15 | Azar | ah mister stew, thank you! |
| 07:08.19 | jetscreamer | just a touch... a touch too much.... |
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| 07:08.49 | jetscreamer | so genuii, how do i let a user mount an iso |
| 07:08.58 | jetscreamer | that's the plural of genuis |
| 07:09.01 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 07:09.09 | Guerin | what's a genuis? |
| 07:09.11 | stew | c7a7uk: you've been silenced for 10 minutes. please keep it constuctive in the fugure |
| 07:09.14 | jetscreamer | i dunno |
| 07:09.22 | Guerin | is it like a penuis or more like a genius? |
| 07:09.28 | jetscreamer | i met a few |
| 07:09.30 | stew | Guerin: please dont use the bot to call random people morons, even when they are being morons |
| 07:09.32 | Azar | mmmm |
| 07:09.33 | jetscreamer | or at least one |
| 07:09.51 | jetscreamer | played him chess all the time |
| 07:09.52 | Guerin | stew: then why does the bot have a !moron function? |
| 07:10.03 | jetscreamer | did not win once |
| 07:10.04 | stew | !forget cmd: moron (.*?) |
| 07:10.21 | Guerin | stew: ... |
| 07:10.22 | sep | c7a7uk, also if you want to play with the bots, you can do that in msg type /msg dpkg whatever and you can have a chat with the bot without bothering the 725 other people in this channel |
| 07:10.36 | jetscreamer | !msg |
| 07:10.36 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 07:10.45 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 07:10.56 | stew | Guerin: i don't give a crap when you call abrotman a moron. when its someone who is new here seeking help, i have a problem with it |
| 07:10.56 | jetscreamer | where's the play with the bots in the bot channel factoid |
| 07:10.59 | sep | jetscreamer, you think that confused him less :) |
| 07:11.01 | stew | (as an example) |
| 07:11.05 | Azar | the bot should have an abuse limit #/min by same nick |
| 07:11.06 | sep | !botabuse |
| 07:11.06 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 07:11.12 | Guerin | stew: he gave up seeking help and started in being a moron. |
| 07:11.12 | sep | hahh |
| 07:11.25 | stew | Guerin: then use ignore or call ops |
| 07:11.30 | Azar | stew can it be done? 3 queries/min by same nick |
| 07:11.37 | Guerin | stew: in any case, your views are noted. |
| 07:11.43 | sep | !botplay |
| 07:11.44 | dpkg | Stop playing with me; you'll go blind! |
| 07:11.54 | sep | i can't remember :) |
| 07:11.59 | Azar | sep: can you please use /msg with the bot? |
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| 07:12.11 | Guerin | jetscreamer: man fstab? |
| 07:12.14 | jetscreamer | posed to the? |
| 07:12.15 | Azar | hello honorable cydork |
| 07:12.16 | Guerin | just an idea ... |
| 07:12.28 | sep | Azar, sorry was just trying to remember the answer to jetscreamer's question |
| 07:12.28 | shogunx | !list |
| 07:12.29 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to shogunx |
| 07:12.39 | cydork | Azar: hello :) |
| 07:12.52 | shogunx | i would love a list of factoids |
| 07:13.03 | jetscreamer | i mean, it's not like i'm not in the sudo group and nopassword et al, but i get tired of repetitively typing sudo just to mount an iso |
| 07:13.06 | Azar | shogunx: I guess is online |
| 07:13.12 | sep | !factoids |
| 07:13.13 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/ |
| 07:13.13 | databuddy | Fact: The fingerprints of koala bears are virtually indistinguishable from those of humans, so much so that they could be confused at a crime scene |
| 07:13.22 | Azar | mister cydork just has done one :) |
| 07:13.27 | shogunx | thank you |
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| 07:14.33 | jetscreamer | oh, and i finally got my wireless working, and it connects to the ap, gets an ip from dhcp... but the internet still doesn't work? |
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| 07:15.15 | Azar | hey who said is hard to get wireless, how about wicd? |
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| 07:15.47 | jetscreamer | well there is no network connectivity rather |
| 07:15.55 | jetscreamer | apparent |
| 07:16.01 | Azar | with wicd? |
| 07:16.05 | jetscreamer | what is wicd |
| 07:16.25 | Azar | http://wicd.sourceforge.net/about.php |
| 07:16.48 | cydork | shogunx: http://cydork.mine.nu/~vihang/dpkg/debmoo.html ;) (also check http://dpkg.vireo.org) |
| 07:17.05 | Azar | I see ubuntu is using it heavily |
| 07:17.13 | xerophyt1 | in irssi how can i split window vertically |
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| 07:21.36 | c7a7uk | Do you have any idea why there would be a package just for a keyring when users can just use gpg/apt-key? |
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| 07:22.21 | Hoxzer | package thing is easier ? |
| 07:22.41 | vedant | how can i check if my debian system is sane and that there isn't any misconfiguration? |
| 07:23.00 | c7a7uk | shutdown -r now |
| 07:23.04 | c7a7uk | sudo* |
| 07:23.15 | cydork | c7a7uk: less work for the user? |
| 07:24.17 | vedant | c7a7uk: are you suggesting i should not be using debian? |
| 07:24.27 | c7a7uk | cydork: Either way they're just copying one execution line from an IRC bot into a terminal.. It just seems that if all the keyring package will do is issue gpg and apt-key .. then it's not worth the extra clutter of a package. |
| 07:25.09 | c7a7uk | And no vedant I'm suggesting that if your system is able to reboot into your desktop then it's sane enough for use. |
| 07:25.23 | stew | c7a7uk: the majority of debian users don't talk to bots on irc |
| 07:26.11 | vedant | c7a7uk: yeah. umm ok |
| 07:26.41 | stew | vedant: you should probably just ignore c7a7uk |
| 07:27.15 | stew | vedant: there is probably no way to figure out what you are trying to figure out in any automated way |
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| 07:28.04 | Supaplex | I /query dpkg atleast once a day. :P |
| 07:28.21 | vedant | stew: the amazing thing to me is that courier-authdaemond worked 2 days earlier, but today it didn't cos authdaemonrc was missing |
| 07:28.30 | vedant | stew: i have no idea how such a thing can happen |
| 07:28.42 | vedant | stew: so i just wanted to be sure that other things are working all right :) |
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| 07:29.44 | stew | vedant: did you recently upgrade from sarge to etch? are your sources pointing to stable? |
| 07:30.04 | vedant | stew: i recently upgraded from etch to testing |
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| 07:30.11 | vedant | stew: sources point to testing |
| 07:30.13 | Bub4 | how i can clean this in APT, "No solution found within the allotted time.", automatic harder solution & -f not work |
| 07:30.19 | stew | vedant: well nm, it doesnt really matter what your sources are pointing to, debian wouldn't have removed a config file on you without you going out of your way |
| 07:30.57 | vedant | stew: heh. i know that. perhaps auth somehow worked at that time without the rc file :) |
| 07:31.12 | stew | vedant: not possible |
| 07:31.42 | vedant | stew: bad i haven't initialized the aide database yet |
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| 07:32.53 | jetscreamer | ok i have an ip, correct subnet, gateway.... i can't ping my router. is the network trying to use eth0 somehow ... it's not up. would there be some config file that tells it to use the nic? |
| 07:33.10 | jetscreamer | wlan0 is up |
| 07:33.28 | jetscreamer | and apparently configured correctly, but it's still not working |
| 07:33.34 | jetscreamer | well |
| 07:33.44 | jetscreamer | network connectivity isn't |
| 07:33.47 | c7a7uk | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:34.24 | jetscreamer | is configured correctly apparent |
| 07:34.26 | jetscreamer | ly |
| 07:34.31 | c7a7uk | also might want to check /etc/resolv.conf |
| 07:34.35 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 07:34.53 | jetscreamer | i have nameservers |
| 07:35.05 | jetscreamer | iirc they are the correct ones /me checks |
| 07:35.37 | c7a7uk | my WAP is the only nameserver listing in there.. |
| 07:35.39 | jetscreamer | yep |
| 07:35.49 | c7a7uk | is your router in there? |
| 07:36.01 | jetscreamer | no, but it's not in this one either |
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| 07:36.36 | c7a7uk | 'this one'? |
| 07:36.43 | jetscreamer | -_- |
| 07:36.49 | jetscreamer | 'this' |
| 07:36.53 | c7a7uk | testing on two separate computers? |
| 07:37.00 | jetscreamer | as opposed to the one that's not connected |
| 07:37.14 | jetscreamer | no, same network... same bedroom. |
| 07:37.17 | c7a7uk | as if I can telepathically view your network topology |
| 07:37.24 | jetscreamer | one wired one wireless |
| 07:37.33 | c7a7uk | okay so |
| 07:37.38 | c7a7uk | testing on two separate computers? |
| 07:37.45 | jetscreamer | no |
| 07:37.54 | jetscreamer | pcmcia only in the laptop |
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| 07:38.04 | jetscreamer | it connects to the ap |
| 07:38.12 | jetscreamer | it gets it's ip et al from dhcp |
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| 07:38.36 | jetscreamer | i guess the laptop just isn't trying to use the interface |
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| 07:39.03 | c7a7uk | is this 'ap' the same 'router' you're referring to? |
| 07:39.07 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 07:39.22 | c7a7uk | can you ping public addresses via the pcmcia card? |
| 07:39.26 | c7a7uk | (debian.org) |
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| 07:39.33 | Joint | hey |
| 07:39.35 | Joint | can someone help me out with my X please |
| 07:39.43 | Joint | im having issued im using ppc |
| 07:39.45 | jetscreamer | no, but i didn't try by ip externally, jus tthe router |
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| 07:40.15 | c7a7uk | ifconfig > rafb.net/paste |
| 07:41.17 | tralala | Joint, what kind of problems? |
| 07:41.22 | c7a7uk | Joint: What video card? |
| 07:41.57 | jetscreamer | nope |
| 07:42.05 | jetscreamer | ping says :operation not permitted |
| 07:42.22 | jetscreamer | which seems different (weird) |
| 07:42.27 | c7a7uk | ifconfig ? |
| 07:42.41 | jetscreamer | works fine |
| 07:42.46 | jetscreamer | looks fine |
| 07:42.54 | stew | jetscreamer: it will say operation not permitted when icmp is being disallowed by iptables |
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| 07:43.14 | c7a7uk | jetscreamer: pastebin for the world to see? |
| 07:43.18 | Joint | c7a7uk i'll tell you right now |
| 07:43.29 | jetscreamer | c7a7uk: it's not connected |
| 07:44.19 | jetscreamer | stew: ok ... what i think is the system is set to use eth0 and isn't trying wlan0 ... is there a thing/file/conf for something like that? |
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| 07:44.26 | Joint | VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Re/SG |
| 07:44.36 | Joint | that's the vide card that i have c7a7uk |
| 07:44.38 | stew | jetscreamer: your routing table |
| 07:44.53 | c7a7uk | Joint: /join #ATI |
| 07:45.10 | Joint | interesting |
| 07:45.19 | stew | Joint: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 07:45.25 | jetscreamer | the values returned by route are correct. |
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| 07:45.32 | Joint | stew started my X =) |
| 07:45.33 | jetscreamer | and indicate wlan0 |
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| 07:45.49 | stew | Joint: which driver are you using? ati? radeon? fglrx? |
| 07:46.02 | Joint | wait brb |
| 07:46.16 | c7a7uk | jetscreamer: ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0 |
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| 07:46.25 | stew | jetscreamer: becuase 'ip route' and 'ip rule' i don't know what else could be affecting it |
| 07:47.03 | stew | jetscreamer: and you shouldn't have any 'ip rule's without knowing about it |
| 07:47.17 | Joint | stew i think there's a bug on the X |
| 07:47.34 | stew | Joint: probably many. what makes you say that though? |
| 07:47.36 | Joint | well it says no screens found |
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| 07:47.42 | jetscreamer | stew: in fact i used the front end thing to turn them off |
| 07:48.02 | stew | Joint: that just means that it can't find a usable configuration with the combination of the hardware it has and the configuration you ahve given it |
| 07:48.05 | jetscreamer | but aha a clue: wlan0 interface doesn't ahve a list of peers/access-points |
| 07:48.15 | stew | !noscreensfound |
| 07:48.15 | dpkg | hmm... noscreensfound is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your xorg log to find the actual problem. There will be an earlier error (marked "(EE)") that is the actual problem. |
| 07:48.32 | jetscreamer | load dri modules |
| 07:48.44 | c7a7uk | !ati |
| 07:48.44 | dpkg | Want to use a newer ATI videocard in sarge? for etch/testing and sid/unstable, just install fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src and read /usr/share/doc/fglrx-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz Try to avoid using ati's stuff directy unless you have to. --- I've heard the driver control panel app needs 32bit libs to compile under 64b, or chris.evenden@amd.com |
| 07:48.44 | jetscreamer | grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 07:48.47 | stew | hmm, dunno of "SAY NO to the framebuffer question" is still the most pertenant advice we could be giving there |
| 07:48.52 | jetscreamer | rage isn't new |
| 07:48.55 | stew | jetscreamer: which driver are you using? |
| 07:48.59 | stew | Joint: ^^ |
| 07:49.03 | Guerin | i think it's no by default since sarge |
| 07:49.10 | jetscreamer | stew: only ndiswrapper give me wpa |
| 07:49.28 | jetscreamer | so ndiswrapper |
| 07:49.30 | stew | Joint: what driver are you using |
| 07:49.39 | Joint | fglrx |
| 07:49.41 | stew | jetscreamer: (i didn't really care which you were using :) ) |
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| 07:50.08 | stew | Joint: you should be using the free driver that comes with debian, not ati's non free driver |
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| 07:50.53 | Joint | stew im using the one that come with debian, |
| 07:50.56 | Joint | i haven't touch nothing |
| 07:50.59 | stew | Joint: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose "ati" or "radeon" not "fglrx" |
| 07:51.01 | jetscreamer | o |
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| 07:51.03 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 07:51.04 | Joint | okey |
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| 07:51.39 | jetscreamer | also, the acx100 doesn't work for me under 2.6.21 |
| 07:51.55 | c7a7uk | Just use WEP so you don't have to worry about ndiswrapper :-p |
| 07:52.01 | stew | jetscreamer: what is making you say that it is trying to use the wrong interface? |
| 07:52.11 | Joint | stew while running radeon |
| 07:52.14 | Joint | im getting this error |
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| 07:52.15 | jetscreamer | even with the help |
| 07:52.23 | tralala | Joint, don't paste here |
| 07:52.27 | spo0nman | what is the difference between apache redirect redirect_all? |
| 07:52.45 | jetscreamer | stew: because the operation is permitted on eth0 when it's up and a wire plugged in |
| 07:53.07 | stew | jetscreamer: what does "ls -l $(which ping)" return? |
| 07:53.15 | Joint | radeon no matching device section for instance BUSID PCI :1:3: |
| 07:53.22 | Joint | any ideas? |
| 07:53.30 | c7a7uk | use "vesa" as your driver |
| 07:53.42 | stew | Joint: no, don't use vesa |
| 07:53.58 | stew | Joint: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and leave busid and amount of ram both blank |
| 07:54.12 | c7a7uk | spo0nman: #Apache |
| 07:54.34 | jetscreamer | stew it tells me which_ping: command not found |
| 07:54.56 | jetscreamer | or should i not put a space in ls -l |
| 07:55.12 | stew | jetscreamer: "ls -l $(which ping)" not "ls -l $(which_ping)" |
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| 07:55.23 | Joint | stew im not using the vesa drivers |
| 07:55.27 | jetscreamer | o |
| 07:56.04 | jetscreamer | /bin/ping is rwsr-xr-x |
| 07:56.24 | Joint | im pretty sure there's a bug some where on the xorg of ppc |
| 07:56.28 | stew | jetscreamer: can you pastebin the output of "iptables -L -n" |
| 07:56.42 | jetscreamer | probably not :) |
| 07:56.48 | jetscreamer | but i'll see how big it is |
| 07:57.06 | stew | Joint: so far it is doing what it should be doing. it correctly refused to run when using a driver that doens't support your hardware, and also failed to run when you told it to use a card for an invaild pci address |
| 07:57.42 | jetscreamer | stew: a bunch of 0.0.0.0's except for the loopback |
| 07:58.07 | stew | jetscreamer: there should be been more information, like the default policies |
| 07:58.52 | stew | jetscreamer: like, what, for instance is the default output policy? |
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| 07:59.19 | c7a7uk | jetscreamer: Here's my output for comparison: http://rafb.net/p/Ufim3f23.txt |
| 07:59.38 | jetscreamer | accept log drop all 0.0.0.0/0 |
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| 07:59.51 | c7a7uk | drop all? <.< |
| 07:59.57 | stew | jetscreamer: right, so icmp is not permitted unless you have a rule specifically allowing it |
| 08:00.05 | pif | hi, where can I get mount-2.13~rc2-5 ? |
| 08:00.09 | stew | jetscreamer: which would explain your getting "operation not permitted" |
| 08:00.14 | jetscreamer | everything is 0 except for 2 127.0.0.0/8's |
| 08:00.25 | pif | my old incoming repositories are obsolete |
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| 08:00.47 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 08:00.54 | Guerin | pif: ... you're using incoming and don't know how to find an arbitrary package version? |
| 08:00.54 | jetscreamer | ok so fix the iptables thingy |
| 08:01.09 | Guerin | !info mount |
| 08:01.26 | jetscreamer | gah |
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| 08:01.26 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 08:01.29 | jetscreamer | guerin new hack? |
| 08:01.29 | c7a7uk | !info netsplit! |
| 08:01.29 | pif | Guerin : no , I don't have an incoming address |
| 08:01.29 | dpkg | mount: (Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems), section admin, is required. Version: 2.13~rc2-4 (sid), Packaged size: 129 kB, Installed size: 312 kB |
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| 08:01.35 | Guerin | jetscreamer: that's me a'ight |
| 08:01.39 | jetscreamer | :)] |
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| 08:02.47 | Guerin | !incoming |
| 08:02.47 | dpkg | [incoming] to be used at your own risk, packages are even dodgier than unstable(see break) but can be got from http://incoming.debian.org/ (but not ftp), or http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources#s-incoming-system |
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| 08:03.05 | Guerin | pif: very very likely to break shit (if it's even there) |
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| 08:04.10 | stew | pif: it was only uploaded a few hours ago |
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| 08:04.22 | dragon_ | http://nag.iap.de/?ac=single&file=Melted349-Evil@Aug_1_09.10.55_2007.png |
| 08:04.29 | pif | stew: I can't find it in incoming |
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| 08:04.40 | Joint | hey how do you stop gdm on start up |
| 08:04.41 | Joint | ? |
| 08:04.45 | Guerin | oh ... and TOTALLY unsupported in hashdweebian |
| 08:04.51 | stew | pif: probably becuase it was already installed |
| 08:04.54 | jetscreamer | chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 08:04.57 | Guerin | jetscreamer: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 08:05.00 | pif | strange thing is on my laptops the mount upgrade went fine, on my desktop it bitches |
| 08:05.05 | Guerin | jetscreamer: no, that's stupid. |
| 08:05.08 | jetscreamer | no it's not |
| 08:05.12 | stew | pif: what arch is your desktop? |
| 08:05.17 | pif | i386 |
| 08:05.20 | jetscreamer | uninstalling gdm just to keep it from starting up a couple times is |
| 08:05.31 | Joint | hey how do you stop gdm on start up? |
| 08:05.35 | Guerin | jetscreamer: but removing the symlinks isn't. |
| 08:05.44 | Guerin | jetscreamer: you read what we fucking told you |
| 08:05.44 | Joint | to remove the start up scripts |
| 08:05.46 | Guerin | argh |
| 08:05.46 | jetscreamer | either/or |
| 08:05.51 | Guerin | Joint: you do too |
| 08:05.57 | Joint | huh |
| 08:05.58 | jetscreamer | imo |
| 08:06.05 | stew | pif: then your laptop and your desktop are probably looking at different mirrors |
| 08:06.09 | Guerin | Joint: read above |
| 08:06.11 | dragon_ | update-rc.d xdm remove |
| 08:06.50 | Joint | thanks dragon_ |
| 08:06.56 | dragon_ | or gdm i can't remember... i don't use a dm |
| 08:06.58 | pif | stew: no, the laptops installed mount 2.13~rc2-4 |
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| 08:08.14 | stew | pif: then what did you mean by "on my desktop it bitches" |
| 08:08.24 | c7a7uk | dragon_: Very Beastie-like ;x |
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| 08:09.20 | pif | Preparing to replace mount 2.13~rc2-3 (using .../mount_2.13~rc2-4_i386.deb) ... |
| 08:09.20 | pif | You have NFS mounts, and this version of mount requires that nfs-common |
| 08:09.33 | pif | be upgraded before NFS mounts will work. |
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| 08:11.44 | stew | pif: aptitude install nfs-common mount |
| 08:12.37 | dragon_ | c7a7uk: beastielike? |
| 08:12.51 | jetscreamer | ok i'm hopefully just missing a step i'll do it later when i give a shit |
| 08:13.12 | jetscreamer | oh wait that iwll be never |
| 08:13.33 | jetscreamer | ok when i kinda sorta care |
| 08:13.39 | stew | jetscreamer: iptables -I OUTPUT -p icmp -j ALLOW |
| 08:14.08 | c7a7uk | dragon_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beastie |
| 08:14.10 | stew | jetscreamer: err ACCEPT not ALLOW |
| 08:14.20 | jetscreamer | uh oh... i'm going to learn iptable-fu |
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| 08:16.39 | jetscreamer | that's a -l as in little L eh |
| 08:16.51 | jetscreamer | nope |
| 08:17.03 | jetscreamer | cap I as in big i ? |
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| 08:17.33 | jetscreamer | bad argument accept |
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| 08:18.00 | jetscreamer | bd arg allow |
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| 08:18.17 | jetscreamer | ah doh |
| 08:18.22 | c7a7uk | :) :) :) !moron stew |
| 08:18.26 | c7a7uk | !moron stew |
| 08:18.26 | dpkg | stew: You are moron #87 |
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| 08:19.28 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 08:19.33 | jetscreamer | who? |
| 08:19.48 | jetscreamer | ok ping functions now... doesn't connect |
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| 08:20.12 | stew | jetscreamer: you probably need to allow them on the input chain as well so you can get the replies |
| 08:20.19 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 08:20.53 | jetscreamer | !stew++ |
| 08:21.03 | jetscreamer | !kiss stew |
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| 08:22.08 | jetscreamer | so the only difference is that after accept, it says icmp instead of 0 |
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| 08:22.41 | jetscreamer | so 0 isn't iptable-fu for * or all i guess |
| 08:22.45 | jetscreamer | ?? |
| 08:22.53 | jetscreamer | but 0.0.0.0/0 seems to be |
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| 08:24.05 | jetscreamer | ok. i create this interface, and the iptable stuff for it is like a 2way wall |
| 08:24.20 | jetscreamer | i can live with that |
| 08:24.25 | jetscreamer | s/live/work/ |
| 08:24.54 | jetscreamer | so s/icmp/http/ for intarweb? |
| 08:25.05 | jetscreamer | or tcp/udp |
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| 08:25.50 | stew | jetscreamer: -p tcp --dport 80 |
| 08:26.13 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
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| 08:28.07 | jetscreamer | these survive across ifdowns/reboots ? |
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| 08:28.15 | stew | jetscreamer: nope |
| 08:28.27 | jetscreamer | cool |
| 08:28.39 | jetscreamer | i like lockdown |
| 08:28.42 | stew | jetscreamer: there is iptables-save and iptables-restore |
| 08:28.47 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 08:29.08 | jetscreamer | thankee verra much senor stew |
| 08:29.37 | jetscreamer | howcome the eth0 just works? |
| 08:29.54 | jetscreamer | it's 'up' at boottime? |
| 08:30.11 | jetscreamer | or whenver the iprules are initiated ? |
| 08:30.11 | stew | jetscreamer: what created all of the iptables rules for you? |
| 08:30.20 | jetscreamer | lokkit |
| 08:30.45 | jetscreamer | but i reset it to 'off' |
| 08:30.56 | stew | jetscreamer: perhaps it was only protecting one interface, you might need "iptables -L -n -v" to see |
| 08:31.02 | stew | bedtime for stew |
| 08:31.07 | jetscreamer | nn and thanks again |
| 08:31.41 | jetscreamer | it did see both |
| 08:31.53 | jetscreamer | but as to what it did to which... |
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| 08:37.42 | militant | can someone trigger me the nvidia closed-source one-liner? i dunno how to use that bot |
| 08:37.42 | simmerz | how do I safely remove a service from /etc/rc*.d ? |
| 08:37.56 | simonrvn | militant: /msg dpkg whatever |
| 08:38.06 | simonrvn | nvidia one-liner |
| 08:38.12 | jetscreamer | !search |
| 08:38.12 | dpkg | [search] try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. see http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
| 08:38.52 | jetscreamer | m-a a-i nvidia should just work unless it's 2.6.20 or .21 |
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| 08:39.08 | xeon9 | simmerz |
| 08:39.23 | xeon9 | i think its |
| 08:39.24 | simmerz | I've worked it out - update-rc.d |
| 08:39.27 | xeon9 | update-rc.d -f servicename remove |
| 08:39.31 | simmerz | yeah |
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| 08:40.54 | militant | ok, one-liner doesn't work. |
| 08:41.04 | simonrvn | scroll up |
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| 08:41.11 | dragon | hey |
| 08:41.23 | dragon | how do you remove the gdm from start up |
| 08:41.52 | dragon | ? |
| 08:42.07 | cydork | dragon: check /msg dpkg nodm |
| 08:42.12 | dragon | thanks |
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| 08:45.46 | HuK0B | Hi How I can see the size of ext3 fs and used space in lvm. I mean when use lvdisplay -C --units K to display the size of my lv I can see how big is my lv 38453379.07K there are ext3 on it.When I try to decrease the size with 100000K resize2fs /dev/test_vg/test_lv 38353379K here I see The containing partition (or device) is only 9388032 (4k) blocks. |
| 08:45.55 | HuK0B | You requested a new size of 9588344 blocks. |
| 08:46.10 | HuK0B | How I can see exact size of fs reserved blocks used space etc... |
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| 08:48.38 | cahoot | HuK0B, man dumpe2fs ? |
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| 08:49.50 | HuK0B | I will try that |
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| 08:51.05 | HuK0B | is there any easy way to resize both lvm and fs |
| 08:51.12 | HuK0B | I mean to decreate extend is easy part |
| 08:51.19 | HuK0B | decrease* |
| 08:51.25 | fireba11 | hi everyone .. am tring to install etch r0 x86 from a netinstall CD. when i set up a raid 5 on my sata disks and mount / there grub and lilo fail to install. am trying to use ext3 for the partition. that worked with sarge, any ideas ? |
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| 08:52.22 | jetscreamer | ahh all |
| 08:52.36 | fireba11 | if i don't use software raid 5 it works, but that won't really do it .. |
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| 08:55.46 | jetscreamer | !hibernate |
| 08:55.53 | jetscreamer | !hibernation |
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| 08:58.52 | biopyte | hi. are there any reasons for installing a consevative i386 instead of an amd64 system on a coreduo machine? are there still issues with amd64? |
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| 09:00.31 | Hoxzer | .... :) |
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| 09:09.17 | Rapp | hi everyone! |
| 09:09.32 | Rapp | where can i see which packages i have updated with apt? |
| 09:09.40 | Rapp | i.e. is there some apt.log or similar? |
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| 09:10.57 | tarzeau | Rapp: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 09:11.02 | cydork | Rapp: if you use aptitude the check /var/log/aptitude or if you use apt-get check /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 09:12.01 | Rapp | tarzeau, thanks |
| 09:12.08 | Rapp | cydork, thanks |
| 09:13.33 | davidL | will xorg close if I killall twm? :-\ |
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| 09:13.59 | tarzeau | davidL: if twm is your windowmaker yes, otherwise no |
| 09:14.04 | tarzeau | window manager |
| 09:14.15 | davidL | It's managing my windows at the moment |
| 09:14.31 | tarzeau | davidL: well it depends really what you exec'd last in .xsession |
| 09:14.39 | tarzeau | if you kill that, xorg will close |
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| 09:14.54 | tarzeau | i've seen .xsession files where firefox was on the last line |
| 09:15.03 | tarzeau | and killing the window manager wouldn't kill x |
| 09:15.22 | tarzeau | it'd just leave you without window managing software, but you could start another with an xterm |
| 09:15.24 | davidL | ah, I should put an xterm or something in there |
| 09:15.36 | tarzeau | depends what you want to do |
| 09:15.52 | tarzeau | what do you really want? |
| 09:16.05 | davidL | to regenerate twm's menus :D |
| 09:16.20 | tarzeau | wait and it's not enough to just restart twm? |
| 09:16.37 | tarzeau | most window managers can do that, the good ones just display the menu without doing anything |
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| 09:16.46 | tarzeau | you don't use the debian pkg: menu ? |
| 09:17.34 | davidL | I thought twm depened on menu |
| 09:17.47 | tarzeau | davidL: it doesn't have to... |
| 09:17.54 | tarzeau | davidL: you can check with apt-cache show pkg |
| 09:18.16 | davidL | yeah it does |
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| 09:21.41 | _Thelonius_ | good day |
| 09:21.58 | _Thelonius_ | i cannot get my intel ICH8 soundcard to run |
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| 09:22.29 | _Thelonius_ | i already got the newest alsa driver (hda-intel is supposed to support the chipset) but nothing |
| 09:22.41 | fireba11 | hi everyone .. am tring to install etch r0 x86 from a netinstall CD. when i set up a raid 5 on my sata disks and mount / there grub and lilo fail to install. am trying to use ext3 for the partition. that worked with sarge, any ideas ? |
| 09:22.48 | _Thelonius_ | during boot i hear a little crack in the speakers, so the system does send sth to the speakers |
| 09:23.00 | _Thelonius_ | alsaconf says that it cannot find any soundcards |
| 09:23.35 | _Thelonius_ | i am using the newest kernel (i think 2.6.22.1) |
| 09:23.42 | _Thelonius_ | any ideas what else i can do |
| 09:24.06 | _Thelonius_ | ah right, my lsmod does not give me any snd... modules. How do i find out which modules to load and how? |
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| 09:25.54 | antgel | fireba11: / on raid-5 wasn't supported last time i looked |
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| 09:26.11 | antgel | unless /boot is a separate partition, maybe on a raid-1 |
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| 09:27.15 | janttsu | hello.. i'm in a hurry. do you know how i could watch a video from one linux-box, but play the audio from another? |
| 09:27.34 | antgel | quickly |
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| 09:27.38 | fireba11 | antgel: ah .. then i'll have to make a seperate /boot .. bit stupid with 4 disks but ah well |
| 09:28.01 | fireba11 | janttsu : wth do you want to do that ? |
| 09:28.08 | antgel | fireba11: you could have two active and two spare |
| 09:28.14 | fireba11 | janttsu : you'll never get that synced |
| 09:28.23 | janttsu | i was afraid of that |
| 09:28.30 | fireba11 | antgel : i need raid 5 since i need large amounts of space :-D |
| 09:28.55 | janttsu | but is it possible even if it's not only perfectly synced? |
| 09:29.00 | fireba11 | janttsu : if you don't find a player that is capable of streaming the audio somewhere ... |
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| 09:29.19 | antgel | fireba11: with the raid-5, make sure you have one spare, preferably two. i had problems once when 2/3 disks failed in quick succession :| |
| 09:29.39 | fireba11 | antgel : i'm on 4x 500 GB already ^^ |
| 09:29.59 | h3sp4wn | fireba11: why not use raid 6 ? |
| 09:31.21 | fireba11 | h3sp4wn : for one the installer can't set that up .. also i need > 1TB space and can#t afford another HD |
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| 09:32.24 | _Thelonius_ | anyone any ideas conc. sound prob of mine? |
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| 09:32.43 | antgel | !any ideas |
| 09:32.43 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of string, a little WD-40, and 42 rabid bunnies. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 09:32.54 | fireba11 | antgel : still doesn't really explain why i can set it up if it won't work afterwrds then ;-) |
| 09:33.23 | lalabsd | is it ok if i build modules first, and build kernel after |
| 09:33.26 | antgel | fireba11: perhaps you'd like to raise a bug with d-i team (if there isn't one already) |
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| 09:34.11 | h3sp4wn | fireba11: http://www.miracleas.com/BAARF/BAARF2.html |
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| 09:46.40 | asmarin | hi im using debian etch and i see lastest version of phpMyAdmin is 2.10.3 and etch has 2.9.1.1 |
| 09:46.42 | asmarin | why? |
| 09:47.06 | antgel | asmarin: apt-cache policy phpmyadmin |
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| 09:47.26 | triplc | hi all |
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| 09:48.38 | sep | asmarin, etch is stable. |
| 09:48.41 | triplc | Where to get the Auth Key for the debian-unofficial.org? I use the link from the website (http://debian-unofficial.org/faq.html) but it does not seem to work. |
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| 09:49.03 | asmarin | well im going to pass to lenny |
| 09:49.05 | asmarin | on this server |
| 09:49.33 | triplc | Error message: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D5642BC86823D007 |
| 09:50.03 | asmarin | upgrading to lenny....in progress :-S |
| 09:50.06 | Ronin | triplc: /topic |
| 09:50.36 | triplc | Ronin, ok, sorry... if my question is not fit in the topic. I am sorry |
| 09:51.43 | Ronin | triplc: no your question is answered in the topic |
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| 09:52.21 | antgel | !topic |
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| 09:52.40 | triplc | Ronin, ok, i am "talking" to the bot dpkg |
| 09:54.06 | triplc | !topic |
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| 09:54.24 | liable | erm, /topic |
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| 09:55.33 | antgel | i wanted to see if the bot would have a hilarious factoid about /topic |
| 09:55.38 | antgel | sadly, it didn't |
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| 09:55.53 | liable | !topicsmite antgel |
| 09:55.53 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon antgel. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 09:55.53 | marcus_brutus | hi all, does anyone know if it's possible to have two different keycodes providing the same keysym? (eg. having a multimedia keyboard and multimedia mouse both having an active Mute button) |
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| 09:56.12 | antgel | i said /hilarious/ :P |
| 09:56.34 | liable | best i can do ;) |
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| 10:02.07 | Zoran | hello to all, i have debian etch, and, i don't know why, my iceweasel and swiftfox don't start at all, i also try to remove them i install them again and didn't help me at all, any idea please? |
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| 10:04.39 | liable | Zoran: try removing your ./.mozilla directory (move it initially, if you dlete it you lose all settings) |
| 10:04.42 | antgel | Zoran: try a new profile directory |
| 10:05.36 | hkBst | The netinst cd hangs after it starts loading the kernel. Like it fails to completely load the kernel. lspci: [http://rafb.net/p/c06w3f77.html]. Same thing happens for a gentoo minimal installcd. |
| 10:08.59 | hkBst | is there another way to install stable debian? I can boot ubuntu-7.04 server cd... |
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| 10:12.13 | xsdg | hkBst: where are you getting the install CD image from? |
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| 10:14.10 | hkBst | xsdg: I downloaded them from official websites. Is that what you're asking? |
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| 10:14.59 | xsdg | hkBst: yeah; you could try this one (one sec; digging up link) |
| 10:16.11 | korhojoa_ | xsdg: digg sucks. |
| 10:16.19 | xsdg | korhojoa_: huh? |
| 10:16.45 | xsdg | hkBst: well, it may not help sin ceyou want to install stable |
| 10:16.57 | xsdg | hkBst: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ will install testing, but might work |
| 10:17.16 | xsdg | hkBst: also, #debian-boot looks like it might be the place to ask |
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| 10:18.04 | hkBst | xsdg: there is only one other person in tha chan... |
| 10:18.10 | hkBst | that* |
| 10:18.28 | xsdg | heh, maybe not |
| 10:18.39 | xsdg | hkBst: the page also mentions debian-boot@lists.debian.org |
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| 10:19.03 | hkBst | xsdg: how much trouble is expected from the debian testing branch? |
| 10:19.22 | antgel | can't the testing installer install stable if you choose expert mode? |
| 10:19.23 | fireba11 | antgel : hm .. should check if it's filed as bug already .. it's rather nasty when you configure 4 disks with 3 raid 5 and lvm with 4 disks on one of those and then find out grub won't install on that and you have to re-do everything |
| 10:19.26 | korhojoa_ | hkBst: about as much as a teenage boy can cause when high on crystal meth |
| 10:19.31 | xsdg | antgel: it might |
| 10:20.02 | xsdg | hkBst: dunno; I only use SID (which I haven't really had problems with, though I've encountered broken packages once in a blue moon) |
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| 10:20.45 | hkBst | xsdg: which branch is sid? |
| 10:21.01 | antgel | !sid |
| 10:21.01 | dpkg | the <unstable> or <thermite> version of Debian. Commonly backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 10:21.25 | xsdg | hkBst: unstable |
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| 10:24.09 | hkBst | what's debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso.zsync for? |
| 10:24.23 | Shadur | I'm using sid and xorg with the latest nvidia driver available in sid with the 2.6.22.1 kernel. After a recent upgrade (done by remote while I was at work) X refuses to start. The log is at http://tenchi.systemec.nl/~shadur/nvidia-issues/Xorg.0.log but the salient point seems to be the last few lines, pointing at a segfault somewhere but not giving much information how or why. Can anyone help me figure out what I've done wrong? |
| 10:24.38 | delliott | How can I make my mouse scrollwheel work in Debian Etch? I am using a Microsoft mouse. |
| 10:24.41 | antgel | hkBst: do you know how to use the dpkg bot? |
| 10:24.51 | antgel | !tell hkBst about zsync |
| 10:25.03 | xsdg | !tell me about zsync |
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| 10:25.20 | xeon9 | in windows you can do start > search > Pictures and Images and then point it to c:\dir -- then i am able to VIEW all images within c:\dir in thumbnail format... Anyone know how i can do this in debian linux? GNome? I've right clicked on the folder and clicked "Browse Folder" in nautils.. I clicked Search and then i set the location to the dir and i have put in *.jpg |
| 10:25.26 | xeon9 | it's currently running, waiting to see if it shows any reslts |
| 10:25.36 | xeon9 | if it does show results, it seems to only AFTER its done |
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| 10:25.48 | xeon9 | and if *.jpg works -- is there a better way (even if its thru another program) ? |
| 10:25.52 | antgel | xeon9: gthumb |
| 10:25.54 | xeon9 | and if *.jpg works, is it counting .JPG ? |
| 10:26.10 | xeon9 | id love to just be able to see all images (which could be .gif, .GIF, .jpg, .JPG, etc) |
| 10:26.12 | xeon9 | gthumb ok ill check that out |
| 10:26.13 | hkBst | thanks antgel |
| 10:26.50 | antgel | Shadur: if you're using sid, you're expected to know how to fix things when they break |
| 10:27.27 | Shadur | antgel: Yes, and normally I do. This time however I'm hitting a wall, which is why I'm asking in here. |
| 10:27.36 | xsdg | antgel: that's not entirely helpful :o) |
| 10:27.38 | antgel | Shadur: have you checked the bts? |
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| 10:28.34 | Shadur | antgel: First thing I did; most recently yesterday. There's a few things about making the package uninstallable on there but those don't seem to be the issue. |
| 10:28.35 | antgel | Shadur: i would start by trying nv and vesa drivers to isolate the problem to the nvidia drivers (or not) |
| 10:28.49 | xeon9 | hey antgel: is gthumb recursive ? |
| 10:28.50 | Shadur | antgel: The nv driver works just fine. |
| 10:28.52 | antgel | xsdg: it helps me |
| 10:29.06 | xeon9 | it seems to only do the images in the immediate dir |
| 10:29.17 | hkBst | xsdg: debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso fails to md5sum correctly... |
| 10:29.24 | antgel | xeon9: i have no idea |
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| 10:30.03 | antgel | Shadur: did you upgrade the kernel? if so, did you rebuild the nvidia module? |
| 10:30.56 | xsdg | hkBst: don't know what to say. do you trust it? :o) (Personally, I always install with those images, and have never had a problem that I can recall) |
| 10:31.12 | Shadur | antgel: Yes and yes. |
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| 10:31.50 | hkBst | xsdg: Yeah, I'll give it a try anyway. |
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| 10:32.26 | antgel | Shadur: amazing really considering the number of bugs in the BTS about it not building. all i can say is use versions that you know work :) also raise a bug report |
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| 10:32.49 | indraveni | hi, in debian lenny I am not able to find the package related to PEAR:PHP-HTTP_WebDav_Server for php modules |
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| 10:33.12 | Shadur | antgel: That's kind of the problem. I already *tried* reversing to a version that worked. |
| 10:33.16 | indraveni | could some one please tell me what is the related package that will install Http_webdav module for my pear |
| 10:33.31 | Shadur | I still got the error. |
| 10:34.03 | Shadur | And the same version of the driver and the kernel seems to be working just fine on my work box. |
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| 10:34.43 | antgel | Shadur: who knows. hardware? could be anything? anyway, sorry, i have nothing more to offer |
| 10:35.13 | antgel | indraveni: do you know how to search packages and their contents? |
| 10:35.22 | Shadur | Maybe a way to coax more debug info out of X itself? That's the program that claims to be segfaulting after all. |
| 10:35.24 | indraveni | antgel, yes, using apt-file |
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| 10:35.37 | antgel | indraveni: can't you find it that way? |
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| 10:36.09 | indraveni | antgel, but what should I search this? this is a seperate module till debien etch version |
| 10:36.16 | indraveni | antgel, ok i will try |
| 10:36.52 | antgel | Shadur: well, you could build X with debug symbols, but my feeling is that there is very little support for the non-free driver |
| 10:37.15 | antgel | indraveni: what a great idea! |
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| 10:43.09 | hkBst | xsdg: this laptop won't even boot from the testing netinst cd. Like that cd isn't bootable or something... |
| 10:43.43 | DawnLight | hello friends |
| 10:43.52 | tonsofpcs | hi peoples |
| 10:44.20 | hkBst | it is supposed to boot he cd, after i tell it wo boot from cd, but it won't. It stays at the "Select boot device" screen, xsdg |
| 10:44.31 | hkBst | s/wo/to |
| 10:45.06 | DawnLight | why does kde on linux run faster then windows? |
| 10:46.00 | petemc | you can get kde for windows? |
| 10:46.08 | xsdg | hkBst: hmm |
| 10:46.20 | marcus_brutus | DawnLight: because it's better? :) |
| 10:46.21 | xsdg | hkBst: is the working ubuntu CD burned or pressed? |
| 10:46.26 | zecrazytux | petemc: there is the project to port kde on windows, yes |
| 10:46.32 | xeon9 | is there a find witch for having it find files that are images only.. ? i.e find /home/ -type images |
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| 10:46.41 | hkBst | DawnLight: I'm sure they can tell you in #kde. Probably because you run kde next to the windows window environment... |
| 10:46.45 | xeon9 | switch* |
| 10:46.48 | hkBst | zecrazytux: burned |
| 10:46.59 | hkBst | euhm, xsdg ^^^ :) |
| 10:47.00 | zecrazytux | hkBst: ? |
| 10:47.03 | zecrazytux | ok |
| 10:47.05 | xsdg | hkBst: hmm; don't know what to say then |
| 10:47.07 | themill | DawnLight: to an extent you are comparing apples with oranges, but the memory management and scheduling of processes is better under the linux kernel. |
| 10:47.08 | xsdg | zecrazytux: :o) |
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| 10:47.47 | xsdg | hkBst: where did you say it stops, again? |
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| 10:48.54 | Penix | !penixstrike pointers |
| 10:48.55 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking pointers to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 10:49.29 | xsdg | Penix: hah; what's up? |
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| 10:50.42 | Penix | xsdg: not much. straining my brain with some C++ |
| 10:50.54 | hkBst | xsdg: you mean this: The netinst cd hangs after it starts loading the kernel. Like it fails to completely load the kernel. lspci: [http://rafb.net/p/c06w3f77.html]. Same thing happens for a gentoo minimal installcd. |
| 10:51.41 | hkBst | is it possible to install say xubuntu from the ubuntu server cd? |
| 10:51.47 | xsdg | Penix: yeah; in what sense? |
| 10:51.52 | hkBst | oops :( |
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| 10:52.16 | xsdg | hkBst: where in the kernel boot process does it stop. though? |
| 10:52.34 | hkBst | xsdg: it doesn't seem to get to starting the kernel at all |
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| 10:53.52 | krete114 | hi i have a basic question about apt: i need a particular python version which is not the very latest one. hot to tell aptitude to install it? |
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| 10:54.47 | xsdg | hkBst: aah, ok |
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| 10:55.30 | xsdg | krete114: aptitude? go to python, and then hit "+" while you have the desired version selected |
| 10:55.47 | xsdg | krete114: in apt, apt-get install foo=version will install that version of the package |
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| 10:58.32 | fluxdude | what init script control network ip settings? I have changed /etc/network/interfaces and done /etc/init.d/networking restart but it's still using the old ip. Of course I can just do ifconfig eth0 x.x.x.x .... but I want to know |
| 10:59.03 | tralala | fluxdude, not /etc/init.d/networking |
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| 10:59.21 | xsdg | fluxdude: ifdown <interface>; ifup <interface> |
| 10:59.26 | tralala | if you want to change the settings of a particular interface (say eth0) you do ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 10:59.52 | liable | i thought restarting did that? |
| 10:59.54 | tralala | and make sure you're not remotely connected to this interface or if you are run the command inside a screen session |
| 11:00.39 | fluxdude | I also tried ifdown and ifup but it has still got eth0 on the old IP. |
| 11:01.01 | xsdg | fluxdude: did you switch from dhcp to static? |
| 11:01.03 | fluxdude | ah, now it's done it |
| 11:01.20 | tralala | liable, hmm... it seems you're right |
| 11:01.21 | fluxdude | i had to do ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 whereas before I did ifdown -a; ifup -a |
| 11:01.35 | fluxdude | strange, I would have thought -a would get eth0 as well? |
| 11:01.49 | xsdg | -a, --all de/configure all interfaces marked "auto" |
| 11:01.52 | liable | run it with bash -x |
| 11:02.02 | xsdg | probably not marked auto in interfaces |
| 11:02.15 | tralala | ahh... -a does only "auto" |
| 11:02.22 | tralala | misleading |
| 11:02.41 | liable | ah, right, so networking script only covers those. |
| 11:02.45 | fluxdude | oh I've added eth0 to the auto line in interfaces, not sure why it wasn't by default though |
| 11:02.47 | fluxdude | thanks |
| 11:03.06 | xsdg | yup |
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| 11:05.10 | TuxMeister | hey guys |
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| 11:05.14 | TuxMeister | what number should I use with chmod to give these permissions to a file "-rwxr-xr-x"? |
| 11:06.00 | tralala | you should use man chmod |
| 11:06.04 | liable | 755 bit i am sure man chmod covers it |
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| 11:06.43 | moldy | hi |
| 11:06.49 | awk | hrm, somebody tell me something, is thre any way to find out what the binary file would be for a certain package, eg bittorrent and bittornado? both the binaries are not the same as the package, is there a way to do a search on the package to view the files from within the .deb file? |
| 11:07.14 | liable | tralala: dont worry, i will regain your respect later when i tell another newb to RTFM ;) |
| 11:07.21 | xsdg | awk: bt* for those |
| 11:07.22 | tralala | hehe |
| 11:07.31 | xsdg | awk: but in general, dpkg -L <package-name> |
| 11:07.42 | awk | thanks xsdg |
| 11:07.44 | xsdg | possibly dpkg -L bittornado | grep bin for binaries |
| 11:07.45 | xsdg | awk: yup |
| 11:07.56 | mlouter | just installed debian.. |
| 11:08.05 | mlouter | i have to say, this is one of the best things i' ve ever seen |
| 11:08.19 | tralala | mlouter, you've got that right |
| 11:08.50 | tralala | and it only gets better with the time |
| 11:08.51 | Penix | ah. there's my problem. I was a bit reference-happy |
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| 11:09.33 | tralala | xsdg, consider awk's quite msg as a "thanks" ;) |
| 11:09.40 | tralala | quit, meh |
| 11:10.19 | tralala | oh, he said thanks. I'm a doulbe loser now |
| 11:10.26 | tralala | tripple |
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| 11:10.48 | xsdg | :o) |
| 11:11.41 | liable | piggy! |
| 11:12.50 | tralala | !qotd0 |
| 11:12.51 | dpkg | well, qotd94 is <rich_> One time I asked my grandma why she never smiled and she said that people who find everyrthing funny have a screw loose. <da_> grandma != debian lol |
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| 11:13.04 | bliss | hi |
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| 11:14.25 | bliss | where do i find the ALSA sound driver config file and how to enable audio in config file in etch ? |
| 11:15.32 | tralala | bliss, you don't need to do anything like that to get a sound working |
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| 11:17.52 | bliss | tralala: thanks so how do I get sound working because according to KinfoCentre audio is not enabled in config file? |
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| 11:18.58 | Instabin | Do i have to download all 2X iso images? |
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| 11:22.17 | ruben_ | Hi, one question, if I put a modem (serial) on my host (vmware server) the guest like debian/ubuntu linux, can detect that modem?? |
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| 11:24.34 | nelf | I'm running debian on a little single board computer - anyone point me to a way of having it with a read-only filesystem (or disposable one) |
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| 11:24.50 | nelf | So I don't have to shut it down gracefully |
| 11:26.29 | tralala | bliss, paste the output of lsmod | grep snd to http://rafb.net/paste |
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| 11:34.21 | tralala | nelf, see how knoppix is doing it. It's not trivial |
| 11:35.00 | bliss | tralala: thanks look at http://rafb.net/wc4VsS84.html |
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| 11:36.03 | nelf | tralala: Yeah - I was looking for something simpler than that. |
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| 11:38.37 | tralala | nelf, certain services need rw access (mainly in /var), /tmp also needs rw access, if using X $HOME/.xsession-errors needs rw access, there could be others as well. It won't be simple and I don't think there's anything already existing - you'll have to customize your installation. |
| 11:38.52 | tralala | bliss, check the url again - I'm getting 404 |
| 11:39.08 | nelf | tralala: OK, thought that might be the situation. |
| 11:39.12 | xored | i get this when i try to run an apt-get update : Failed to fetch http://debian.intergenia.de/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 401 Authorization Required |
| 11:39.59 | tralala | xored, use a different mirror |
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| 11:40.26 | xored | tralala: its working on my other machine ? |
| 11:41.21 | tralala | the same mirror? |
| 11:41.39 | xored | yes |
| 11:41.47 | xored | exactly the same sources.list |
| 11:41.49 | tralala | check your apt.conf for proxies |
| 11:42.02 | monyi | its too silent in iran... |
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| 11:43.25 | xored | tralala: which mirrors could i use alternativly |
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| 11:43.48 | bliss | tralala: http://rafb.net/p/wc4VsS84.html works ok |
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| 11:44.12 | monyi | oh sorry I mean - its too silent in debian - |
| 11:44.35 | tralala | bliss, is this a laptop? does alsamixer work? |
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| 11:45.23 | monyi | hell no I hear you |
| 11:45.26 | max-levin | in Iran :) |
| 11:46.03 | tralala | xored, you can use any mirror you like, but if the error message is caused by a proxy it might not go away |
| 11:46.09 | Tremitos | Hi |
| 11:46.20 | tralala | so do you or do you not use a proxy? |
| 11:46.25 | xored | tralala: where shoudl i look for the prxy ? |
| 11:46.32 | Tremitos | ok |
| 11:46.40 | tralala | xored, in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* |
| 11:46.41 | xored | tralala: i neve configured one, where should i look for ? |
| 11:46.44 | syntaxx | im using cups classes for printer in windows os however the class state doesnt show.. it only shows the printer state anyone know a solution to view the printer class state in windows os? |
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| 11:47.18 | bliss | tralala: yes its a labtop, not tried alsamixer, according to KInfoCentre Mixers NOT enabled in config file |
| 11:48.20 | xored | tralala: nothing proxy like in there |
| 11:48.26 | tralala | bliss, try alsamixer now |
| 11:48.49 | tralala | xored, anything in env | grep -i proxy |
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| 11:49.20 | xored | tralala: no. |
| 11:49.39 | tralala | xored, what happens if you try to wget the url? |
| 11:49.49 | xored | sec |
| 11:50.13 | xored | auth failed |
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| 11:50.28 | tralala | xored, and on the other computer? |
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| 11:50.56 | xored | tralala: it works |
| 11:51.01 | xored | something gpg related ? |
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| 11:51.17 | tralala | xored, are they on the same network? do they have the same gateway? |
| 11:51.33 | tralala | xored, no that's an http error - not gpg related |
| 11:51.36 | xored | tralala: no. |
| 11:51.51 | xored | tralala: the one works is a root-box hosted by an ISP |
| 11:51.59 | xored | the other is my home server, both debian etch |
| 11:52.50 | tralala | xored, your ISP must be having a transparent proxy that's not allowing the URL. Try a different mirror |
| 11:53.30 | tralala | or maybe it's the mirror itself that's not allowing connections from your ISP |
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| 11:54.08 | xored | tralala: ok. Where is a list of mirrors ? |
| 11:54.17 | tralala | on debian.org |
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| 11:55.55 | bliss | tralala:should i run alsamixer from comand line ? |
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| 11:57.03 | tralala | bliss, yes |
| 11:57.09 | xored | *not easy to find there still searching * |
| 11:57.36 | xored | ok got it :) |
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| 11:58.36 | bliss | tralala: alsamixer command not found |
| 11:58.53 | monyi | achmadinedschad you fly ME109 |
| 11:59.11 | semprix | good morning debian |
| 11:59.16 | xored | tralala: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.de/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz 401 Authorization Required |
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| 11:59.23 | tralala | bliss, install alsa-utils |
| 11:59.24 | xored | tralala: something is really bad in here |
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| 12:00.13 | tralala | xored, choose a non-de mirror |
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| 12:00.52 | liable | bliss: if you dont have alsa-utils i presume you havent ever run alsaconf either? |
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| 12:01.21 | tralala | liable, he's got the modules loaded though |
| 12:01.23 | xored | tralala: some thing with the : switzerland server |
| 12:01.34 | xored | tralala: every server is failing..even the security one.. |
| 12:01.45 | liable | tralala: and in audioi? |
| 12:01.47 | xored | tralala: is any port needed for it ? the server is behind a firewall |
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| 12:02.03 | tralala | liable, eh? |
| 12:02.15 | liable | audio group |
| 12:02.22 | xored | tralala: : deb http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 12:02.26 | xored | tralala: is that line ok |
| 12:02.44 | tralala | xored, I don't know |
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| 12:03.11 | tralala | if it's listed on debian.org it is ok |
| 12:03.26 | tralala | liable, well get there after alsa-utils |
| 12:03.32 | tralala | we'll |
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| 12:04.30 | xored | tralala: i cant connect to any server. The server is behind a firewall but this should not harm or ? |
| 12:04.35 | mlouter | I'm running lenny, but i need some packages from stable, can i just add the lines for the stable rep. in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 12:04.39 | blinQ | hi there |
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| 12:05.12 | tralala | xored, this is not a problem |
| 12:05.25 | blinQ | is there any "real smart" way of creating a fullbackup of a debian (etch) system, which is very easy to "read back/restore" when needed? |
| 12:05.27 | xored | tralala: yeah thats quite strange |
| 12:05.29 | tralala | mlouter, no |
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| 12:06.06 | mlouter | tralala: how do i get a pkg like nvidia-glx then |
| 12:06.43 | tralala | xored, there must be a transparent proxy somewhere - either locally or on your ISP's routers that's blocking you |
| 12:07.05 | xored | no it was the gateway. What the hell happend there |
| 12:07.05 | tralala | mlouter, /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 12:07.16 | xored | tralala: sorry for bothering you..it was just dump of myself |
| 12:07.22 | monyi | yes xored - search for the hole. |
| 12:07.32 | tralala | xored, what do you mean the gateway? |
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| 12:07.41 | xored | tralala: it was set wrong |
| 12:07.47 | xored | the gateway my howsever used |
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| 12:09.16 | b9anders | can anyone tell me the command to use in terminal or alt+f2 to log out of a gnome session? |
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| 12:10.10 | tralala | b9anders, ctrl+alt+FN |
| 12:10.18 | cahoot | logout? |
| 12:10.27 | tralala | to get to a text console from X |
| 12:10.50 | tralala | chvt N to do the same using a command |
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| 12:11.23 | b9anders | typing logout doesn't work. I need a command, not a hotkey though |
| 12:11.52 | blinQ | quit? |
| 12:11.53 | blinQ | exit? |
| 12:12.17 | tralala | /quit |
| 12:12.29 | blinQ | lol. |
| 12:13.04 | tralala | b9anders, there are menus in gnome |
| 12:13.04 | b9anders | doesn't work either |
| 12:13.13 | ledestin | What bugs should go and which shouldn't into release updates? Is there policy? |
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| 12:13.49 | b9anders | tralala - yeah, but I've just compiled 'closure' and I want to configure it to be able to log out as well and for that I need the command used |
| 12:14.18 | tralala | b9anders, see what is the command of the menu item |
| 12:14.55 | abrotman | b9anders: kill gnome-session ? |
| 12:16.45 | bliss | tralala: ok had to find the debian cd , ran alsamixer |
| 12:17.23 | tralala | bliss, did you get an error message? |
| 12:18.22 | bliss | tralala: not that I am aware of, which readindgs from the mixer chart do you need to know |
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| 12:20.22 | b9anders | well 'killall gnome-session' obviously does the trick, but it seems like a pretty violent solution. the menu options all pop up a gui conformation window, whereas all I am looking for is the command to do it without gui |
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| 12:21.08 | abchirk | anyone here with dbdesigner under amd64? |
| 12:21.13 | tralala | b9anders, the menu command should have an option to not pop a gui |
| 12:21.26 | tralala | at least in kde it does |
| 12:22.28 | b9anders | in gnome you get a 'you will be logged out in 60 seconds' window with the option to log out now or cancel |
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| 12:23.06 | b9anders | no option to not pop a gui that I can find |
| 12:23.22 | tralala | maybe an option for timeout 0 |
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| 12:24.40 | b9anders | wouldn't know where to set that |
| 12:25.04 | tralala | I guess google's your best bet |
| 12:26.42 | b9anders | tried that without much luck |
| 12:27.05 | syntaxx | im using cups classes for printer in windows os however the class state doesnt show.. it only shows the printer state anyone know a solution to view the printer class state in windows os? |
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| 12:30.12 | abrotman | b9anders: thought to ask #gnome on irc.gnome.org ? |
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| 12:30.42 | MahdiPishguy | hi IRC |
| 12:30.51 | bliss | tralala: I am looking at the alsamixer it says Card: ATI IXP chip: realtek ALC250 rev 2 view: [playback] Capture all Item: Master [off] |
| 12:30.51 | MahdiPishguy | i want too update GNOME in debian etch4 |
| 12:30.59 | MahdiPishguy | who can help me? |
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| 12:31.33 | streuner | MahdiPishguy: there is backports.org or apt-get.org |
| 12:31.53 | MahdiPishguy | ز؎د غخع صÙÙÙØ« Ø²Ø®ÙŸÙŸØŽØ¯Û Ø |
| 12:31.56 | streuner | or you just use lennty/testing |
| 12:32.05 | MahdiPishguy | can you write command for it? |
| 12:32.07 | Ronin | patience MahdiPishguy |
| 12:32.36 | Ronin | !tell MahdiPishguy about backports |
| 12:32.43 | streuner | !ir |
| 12:32.44 | dpkg | well, ir is InfraRed |
| 12:32.51 | streuner | nah, dpkg |
| 12:32.53 | abrotman | Ronin: nice command@ |
| 12:33.07 | MahdiPishguy | wait for opening that page. |
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| 12:33.13 | Ronin | heh dont think it will do what he wants though |
| 12:34.35 | obsethryl | hmm i am probably forgetting something simple here |
| 12:34.56 | obsethryl | how come /lib/udev/vol_id -u does not work on a swap partition? |
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| 12:35.46 | tralala | bliss, this means that your sound is working fine. You can hit esccape to exit alsamixer. The sound is not configured in KDE |
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| 12:37.15 | MahdiPishguy | i cant find updating GNOME version in your links |
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| 12:39.28 | abrotman | MahdiPishguy: why do you want to update gnome? |
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| 12:40.05 | gonzaloaf | Hi, if I'm behind a NAT and I want to connect via ssh from outside, do I have to open ports 22-23 on my router? |
| 12:40.29 | cast | just 22 tcp |
| 12:40.34 | cast | open and forward them |
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| 12:41.40 | bliss | tralala: does it need to be configured? |
| 12:42.43 | MahdiPishguy | fgnome's advanced features... |
| 12:42.57 | tralala | bliss, unless you want something kde specific (like arts) starting kmix should be enough |
| 12:43.27 | abrotman | MahdiPishguy: yeah .. which ones ? |
| 12:43.30 | streuner | MahdiPishguy: prolly there is no package for GNOME then (backports) |
| 12:43.38 | streuner | MahdiPishguy: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 12:44.23 | MahdiPishguy | i write that? |
| 12:44.28 | MahdiPishguy | and ENTER? |
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| 12:44.35 | streuner | yes, in a shell as root |
| 12:44.41 | MahdiPishguy | ok wait |
| 12:45.02 | xand | s/as root// |
| 12:45.05 | MahdiPishguy | what's that |
| 12:45.06 | MahdiPishguy | root:/home/mahdi/Desktop/test/panel/panel2# dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 12:45.07 | MahdiPishguy | ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 12:45.07 | MahdiPishguy | root:/home/mahdi/Desktop/test/panel/panel2# |
| 12:45.19 | streuner | ok |
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| 12:45.25 | streuner | that's etch/stable |
| 12:45.29 | simonrvn | that doesn't need to be run as root |
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| 12:45.50 | MahdiPishguy | ok |
| 12:45.54 | MahdiPishguy | now ??? |
| 12:46.11 | streuner | simonrvn: i learn every day something new, Thank you :-) |
| 12:46.35 | MahdiPishguy | can i learn that |
| 12:46.36 | MahdiPishguy | ? |
| 12:46.39 | simonrvn | xand said it too |
| 12:46.44 | streuner | well, its etch/stable, usually no NEW packages going into etch then |
| 12:47.18 | MahdiPishguy | but my gnome ver is older |
| 12:47.20 | streuner | only backports bring newer packages into the stable release |
| 12:47.37 | abrotman | MahdiPishguy: why do you want to upgrade gnome again ? |
| 12:47.42 | MahdiPishguy | i opend that . but i cant found it |
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| 12:47.56 | syntaxx | i added a printer class in cups however when i tried to check the status after pausing the printer class it doesnt show paused. it detects the printer status not the class status anyone here who can help me? |
| 12:47.57 | MahdiPishguy | no , not for again |
| 12:47.58 | hark | sns :) |
| 12:48.28 | abrotman | what's wrong with the gnome in etch ? |
| 12:48.41 | obsethryl | hmm ok fixed the uuid with my swap partition but this was weird now :s |
| 12:49.12 | simonrvn | "IT'S TOO OLD S0X0RS!!!111" |
| 12:49.30 | Ronin | heh |
| 12:49.41 | hark | nobse did a backport back in march of 2.16 iirc |
| 12:49.52 | MahdiPishguy | my gnome ver is :2.14.13 |
| 12:50.11 | MahdiPishguy | i want too update that for GNOME 2.18 |
| 12:50.13 | streuner | !+info gnome-session testing |
| 12:50.14 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 12:50.23 | MahdiPishguy | ok |
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| 12:50.38 | bliss | tralala: i tried kmixit seems it wants to copythe audio file first, no sound from default player |
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| 12:50.42 | dpkg | gnome-session: (The GNOME 2 Session Manager), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.18.3-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 543 kB, Installed size: 2680 kB |
| 12:50.55 | Surma | WHere/How can I propose a new goal for Lenny? |
| 12:51.05 | MahdiPishguy | ok wait |
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| 12:51.51 | hark | Surma: what is it that you're proposing? |
| 12:52.06 | abrotman | MahdiPishguy: yes .. we know you want to upgrade .. but why? |
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| 12:52.19 | streuner | "GNOME is too old" |
| 12:52.22 | abrotman | MahdiPishguy: which feature can't you live without ? |
| 12:52.30 | jean_ | has anyone tried to work the aTI Radeon X1650 Pro as a dual card one vga and one hdmi?? Does it work |
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| 12:52.44 | Surma | hark: I miss something like apt-undo or similar. You just tried something, didn't work and you want to undo your last installation _including_ all the dependcies. |
| 12:52.45 | bartmann | anybody up to date with KMail development or into this stuff? |
| 12:53.02 | streuner | bartmann: /j #debian-kde |
| 12:53.08 | bartmann | thx |
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| 12:53.57 | hark | Surma: just use aptitude ;) |
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| 12:55.05 | Surma | Can it do that from a simple shell without ncurses? |
| 12:55.29 | tralala | bliss, you're not making sense |
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| 12:55.36 | hark | yes, very similar to apt-get. |
| 12:55.56 | hark | !aptitude |
| 12:55.56 | dpkg | [aptitude] "the preferred program for package management from console. aptitude supports most command line operations of apt-get and has proven to be better at dependency resolution than apt-get." (4.0 Release Notes). A mostly drop-in replacement for apt-get. Don't mix use of apt-get and aptitude. See <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu>, http://tinyurl.com/2ebd4m http://tinyurl.com/2hw8nx http://tinyurl.com/2y783t |
| 12:55.57 | Surma | Okay, then it was a good thing to come here and ask first ;) |
| 12:56.24 | dkg | To switch to KDE, or not to switch to KDE. That is the question. |
| 12:56.49 | simonrvn | i vote no. stick openbox there or something |
| 12:57.02 | hark | !8ball yes |
| 12:57.03 | dpkg | No. |
| 12:57.10 | simonrvn | see? :P |
| 12:57.23 | dkg | dpkg knows all. |
| 12:57.23 | dpkg | Bob knows what he's talking about! Listen to Bob! |
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| 12:57.57 | dkg | !lol |
| 12:57.57 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 12:58.05 | simonrvn | dpkg knows when you've been naughty |
| 12:58.37 | dkg | He knows if you're sleeping. |
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| 12:58.37 | petemc | heh doesnt sound like laughter either |
| 12:58.37 | dkg | He knows when you're awake. |
| 12:58.39 | petemc | or bwahahaha.. |
| 12:58.47 | dkg | He knows if you've been bad or good.. |
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| 12:58.50 | dkg | someone else finish it |
| 12:59.25 | simonrvn | . |
| 12:59.28 | simonrvn | the end |
| 12:59.33 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 12:59.48 | bliss | tralala: ok i playing a audio cd with noatun but i cannt hear anything on the labtop |
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| 13:00.35 | simonrvn | labtop? you stick it on top of your lab? poor doggy |
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| 13:01.09 | dkg | simonrvn: *sigh* Terrible |
| 13:01.28 | dkg | He could be referring to the bench of a laboratory |
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| 13:01.41 | simonrvn | my wife said the same thing "oh no, you can't do groaners like that" |
| 13:02.16 | simonrvn | dpkg: that ocurred to me, i was trying to imply 'laboratory' at the same time as the dog breed |
| 13:02.30 | dkg | yeah, dpkg |
| 13:02.34 | dkg | you tell him |
| 13:02.48 | simonrvn | woops, bag tab complete ... |
| 13:02.52 | simonrvn | bad* |
| 13:02.57 | dkg | Tab is not your friend |
| 13:03.06 | simonrvn | no =( |
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| 13:18.25 | Noborusan | which file i should add to source.list to obtain the lastest issue about xfs ? |
| 13:18.49 | Noborusan | http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xfs/xfs_1.0.1-6.dsc |
| 13:18.50 | Noborusan | , http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/x/xfs/xfs_1.0.1-6.diff.gz |
| 13:18.50 | Noborusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.50 | Noborusan | ? |
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| 13:19.13 | sep | !security |
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| 13:19.13 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade". , or ask me about testing security or unstable security |
| 13:19.13 | Noborusan | sorry |
| 13:19.34 | Noborusan | sep, thanks |
| 13:20.01 | tralala | blinx, because your mixer is muted, use kmix to adjust the volume and unmute the mixer |
| 13:20.30 | tralala | meh, his gone |
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| 13:21.19 | Noborusan | sep, i done it,it says file libmagic1 will be upgraded, do they match the issue i posted earlier ? |
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| 13:21.51 | schoppenhauer | hello. i am planning to make a dist-upgrade but on my /var partition there seems to be not enough space to do so. at least there seems not to be enough space to unpacke some stuff in /var/cache. apt downloaded any package and now this partition seems to be ful. what can/must/should I do (except copying this to another drive and mounting it as /var) |
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| 13:22.09 | Noborusan | hmm |
| 13:22.28 | sep | Noborusan, you are running etch ? |
| 13:22.34 | Noborusan | yes |
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| 13:23.02 | Noborusan | sep, In email,says stuff related to xfs,needed to be fixed . |
| 13:23.33 | Noborusan | sep, plus that, the default one doenst have 'contrib non-free' |
| 13:23.40 | Noborusan | doesn't even |
| 13:23.50 | xlotlu | hmm, kernel panic with vfs: cannot open root device after restart |
| 13:24.21 | sep | Noborusan, you did aptitude update first ? |
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| 13:24.56 | Noborusan | i ran 'apt-get update' then 'apt-get upgrade' |
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| 13:25.41 | Noborusan | it only says file libmagic1 needed to be upgraded,seems they have nothing with that 'xfs' issue mentioned in email from debian security . |
| 13:26.00 | Noborusan | they have nothing to do with* i mean. |
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| 13:26.13 | Ardi | hi to all ... where can i get libxml 2 for debian ? |
| 13:26.16 | sep | perhaps you dont have xfs installed on your system ? (then you dont need to upgrade it) |
| 13:26.35 | sep | Noborusan, dpkg -l xfs |
| 13:26.36 | Noborusan | sep, i am confused, does this 'xfs' means the file system ? |
| 13:26.47 | sep | X Font Server |
| 13:26.49 | Noborusan | i am truely using xfs file system though. |
| 13:26.55 | Noborusan | oh |
| 13:27.17 | sep | Noborusan, apt-cache show xfs for details |
| 13:27.22 | Noborusan | sep, Thanks, by the way,shall i remove 'contrib non-free' ? |
| 13:27.24 | stew | Ardi: apt-cache show libxml2 |
| 13:27.39 | sep | if you dont have them on your regular repos, then yes you can |
| 13:27.40 | stew | Ardi: what are you trying to do? |
| 13:27.51 | Noborusan | mine by default is deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 13:28.19 | Ardi | i am trying to install fontconfig but it requires libxml 2 |
| 13:28.31 | sep | Noborusan, then you can remove them if you wish |
| 13:28.37 | stew | Ardi: how are you tyring to install fontconfig? |
| 13:28.41 | Noborusan | Okay,thanks . |
| 13:28.53 | stew | Noborusan: don't use 'stable' in sources.list, use 'etch' |
| 13:28.54 | sep | Noborusan, (aptitude update after editing allways) |
| 13:29.20 | Noborusan | stew, I see |
| 13:29.30 | Ardi | by compiling the sorce and this is funny i alrady have the libxml2 installed |
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| 13:29.36 | Noborusan | sep, will do. |
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| 13:30.29 | Squart | morning all |
| 13:31.02 | Squart | can anyone help me or guide on setting up a back up method with dvdrw media? |
| 13:31.19 | Noborusan | My server runs very smoothly :) |
| 13:31.34 | stew | Ardi: wny are you compiling instead of just running "aptitude install fontconfig" |
| 13:31.58 | cast | Squart: man tar [-g specifically], man growisofs, or man dump |
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| 13:32.10 | schoppenhauer | is there a way to download deb-packages just before installing and then delete them immedately? |
| 13:33.35 | abrotman | just run aptitude clean after you install |
| 13:34.40 | schoppenhauer | abrotman: all the packages i install are downloaded. i am doing a dist-upgrade... |
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| 13:35.00 | schoppenhauer | abrotman: i dont want to do this after any of these about 400 packages |
| 13:35.27 | stew | schoppenhauer: you can turn off the packages caching in apt.conf 'man apt.conf' |
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| 13:36.40 | SoulChild | anyone installed compiz fusion on debian "testing" ??? |
| 13:37.26 | cast | !anyone |
| 13:37.26 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses, knows, is good with, can help you with or is a guru/expert of <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 13:38.03 | SoulChild | cast: for you: how to install compiz fusion on debian testing? |
| 13:38.43 | schoppenhauer | stew: thanks. |
| 13:38.48 | LightKnight | !sicco |
| 13:38.48 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
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| 13:39.00 | sparr | Is there a GUI mail client that can keep a local backup of IMAP-stored email, even when the email or folders are deleted from the server? |
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| 13:39.37 | cast | SoulChild: very carefully. dunno, don't care :\ compiz fusion isn't in testing |
| 13:39.58 | cast | [i presume its not in testing, anyway] |
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| 13:40.22 | SoulChild | !dpkg why is compiz-fusion not in testing |
| 13:40.23 | dpkg | SoulChild: what are you talking about? |
| 13:40.36 | xlotlu | SoulChild: http://gitweb.opencompositing.org/?p=users/3v1n0/compiz-fusion-debian-builder |
| 13:40.48 | SoulChild | !dpkg why is vlc not in testing |
| 13:40.48 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, SoulChild |
| 13:41.00 | SoulChild | ??? whats worng with the bot ? |
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| 13:41.19 | Coweater | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 13:41.19 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 13:41.35 | SoulChild | ahhh Coweater thanks |
| 13:41.49 | SoulChild | ! why is compiz-fusion not in testing |
| 13:41.49 | dpkg | compiz-fusion is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=compiz-fusion |
| 13:42.44 | Ardi | this is wired ... i still get the same error even though fontconfig is installed |
| 13:42.45 | Ardi | FreeType font backend could be enabled... no (requires fontconfig |
| 13:42.45 | Ardi | configure: error: requested FreeType font backend could not be enabled |
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| 13:45.24 | Instabin | what does this mean " checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables? |
| 13:45.42 | Instabin | gcc |
| 13:45.45 | massctrl | hi, when i reinstall apache2, the /etc/apache directory isn't recreated which was manually removed by me,... |
| 13:45.49 | hark | !b-e |
| 13:45.50 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential |
| 13:45.54 | jean_ | does the radeon driver work simultaneously with the flgrx driver. DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS |
| 13:46.10 | hark | jean_: no, it does not |
| 13:46.13 | Ronin | no need to yell jean_ |
| 13:46.32 | jean_ | I know I know but this is been my life for the last week |
| 13:46.34 | shmho | I'm using radeon. and it works not bad. |
| 13:46.34 | cast | if i were a ati user i'd be angry too |
| 13:46.41 | jean_ | hark: do you know what happens |
| 13:46.45 | hark | Ardi: you might need the -dev package |
| 13:46.54 | Instabin | thanks |
| 13:47.01 | Instabin | dpkg:thanks |
| 13:47.01 | dpkg | Instabin: bitte |
| 13:47.02 | cydork | massctrl: check /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 13:47.25 | shmho | jean_: you should say with your device version. because fglrx works good some fglrx but it doesn't work with others. |
| 13:47.48 | hark | jean_: what card? |
| 13:47.53 | Instabin | dpkg: Im trying to buld gnome 2.18 |
| 13:48.25 | jean_ | Oh I have X1650 Pro Sapphire dual head |
| 13:48.37 | jean_ | PCI-E by the way |
| 13:48.52 | hark | radeon doesen't support that |
| 13:48.56 | shmho | And would someone give me a comment? I didn't touch any configuration, but suddenly my keymap is messed-up. For example, when I press the backslash, my console showes me ` |
| 13:49.02 | jean_ | Do you guys know of any dual hedad pcie supported by the open source that I can use |
| 13:49.59 | Ardi | hark, do u have any idea where i can get that package |
| 13:50.00 | shmho | I heard that card first time, but if that is from ati. You should find their homepage for the first time. |
| 13:50.43 | h3sp4wn | jean_: Matrox sell a pci-e x1 card but its expensive |
| 13:51.03 | jean_ | shmo: are you talking to me and it is ATI and open source soes not support it. That's why I am using the ATI driver from thei website |
| 13:51.06 | cast | shmho: have you checked for FBI branded HW keyloggers? |
| 13:51.06 | hark | Ardi: try apt-cache -n search fontconfig dev |
| 13:51.47 | hark | whatever you are tryong to do |
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| 13:51.57 | jean_ | h3sp4wn: what is the cost and can you give more info about it maybe a website |
| 13:52.02 | shmho | cast: Sorry. I cant understand what you mean. What's the FBI branded HW keyloggers? |
| 13:52.04 | Tremitos | I'll find out |
| 13:52.34 | yangvnc | I am wondering is it possible to create a Linux partition on an allready made Win XP partition (to share with Win XP somehow with dual boot) ? |
| 13:52.48 | cast | shmho: ahh nothing. i'm getting tired, and should resume my house cleaning :) |
| 13:52.50 | h3sp4wn | jean_: Not sure - look at the matrox website don't be so lazy |
| 13:53.00 | jean_ | cast: of course that is why it is called dual boot |
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| 13:54.12 | h3sp4wn | jean_: (Matrox Millennium G550 PCIe) |
| 13:54.32 | jean_ | h3sp4wn: well I thought you have experience of the thing working. I do not want to be experimental anymore. So I thought you know for sure there is a card that is supported by open source that does the job for me. Trust me I am not being lazy |
| 13:55.18 | h3sp4wn | jean_: Its not experimental its tried and tested |
| 13:55.39 | Ardi | hark, this is what i get libfontconfig1-dev - generic font configuration library - development |
| 13:55.53 | jean_ | h3sp4wn: I will look into this. Thanks a lot |
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| 13:57.54 | terlmann | I need a tool that will let me moniter traffic levels on my local subnet |
| 13:58.02 | terlmann | anyone know of a good tool with a gui? |
| 13:58.29 | h3sp4wn | terlmann: Could use wireshark |
| 13:58.32 | cromag | !users |
| 13:58.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, users is Mithrandi |
| 13:58.35 | cromag | heh |
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| 13:59.17 | massctrl | cydork: dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/apache2_2.2.3-4_all.deb I thought this might help but it doesn't,... |
| 13:59.35 | massctrl | cydork: why is it such a pain, to just reinstall a package? |
| 13:59.40 | hark | massctrl: the -common package |
| 13:59.55 | cromag | I need info about which file i can find existing users in, can anyone help me out there ? :) |
| 14:00.05 | bonez39 | normally, I can ssh to home from work here..but my linksys wrt54g seems to change the static internal IP to my linux box...where port 22 is forwarded...if I set up the forwarding based instead of on the IP address, on the linux box's mac address, would this assure a connection every time? |
| 14:00.06 | cydork | massctrl: what hark said, and use apt-get |
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| 14:00.11 | hark | Ardi: yeah, so install it and see |
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| 14:02.20 | jean_ | h3sp4wn: do you know if you can use two of these at the same time . I have three monitors . Currently one of the cards I have (sapphire X1650Pro ATI) works with flgrx but I cannoyt get the second to work. I do not think it is an xorg problem because there are no errors in Xorg.0.log |
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| 14:03.56 | Noborusan | does anyone know if quota cannot work on xfs file system ? |
| 14:04.02 | Noborusan | or that is a lie ? |
| 14:04.10 | jamesbrink_ | how can i install an olde rversion of a software package with apt |
| 14:04.13 | massctrl | cydork, hark: k guys thanks it worked out, ... I guess this was because because that package I used is a package ? |
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| 14:05.56 | Ardi | still the same error |
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| 14:06.17 | h3sp4wn | jean_: I have never done that - for 2 cards it mentions a hal so I would avoid if possible |
| 14:06.29 | hark | a metapackage |
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| 14:07.34 | jean_ | h3sp4wn: I will research some bit more |
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| 14:11.28 | massctrl | cydork, hark: a metapackage, yeah I meant to write virtual package, but it didn't appear in my sentence, so that looked kind of weird, .. thanks |
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| 14:15.30 | massctrl | hark, apparently the missing directories are recreated but no config files are there, .... so my problem still isn't solved,.. |
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| 14:17.58 | abrotman | massctrl: apache2.2-common |
| 14:18.15 | massctrl | abrotman: that's the one I reinstalled,.. |
| 14:18.17 | abrotman | massctrl: and that doesn't recreate the files ? |
| 14:18.28 | massctrl | abrotman: no it doesn't ,... |
| 14:18.39 | abrotman | which file are you trying to recreate ? |
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| 14:19.31 | massctrl | abrotman: the whole /etc/apache2 directory and it's original content |
| 14:19.35 | Instabin | how do i set the environment variables LIBXML2_CFLAGS and LIBXML2_LIBS |
| 14:20.11 | hark | massctrl: so you don't have an apache2.conf there? |
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| 14:20.41 | massctrl | hark: indeed I don't |
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| 14:21.27 | krassy | hi all |
| 14:21.32 | thelostbutler | instabin: export LIBXML2_CFLAGS="yada yada" LIBXML2_LIBS="blah blah" |
| 14:22.00 | Instabin | thelostbutler: do you know where i need to set them too |
| 14:22.10 | abrotman | massctrl: what's the command you're using? |
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| 14:22.31 | massctrl | abrotman: apt-get install --reinstall apache2.2-common |
| 14:22.37 | krassy | it is possible to add a secondary IP address in /etc/network/interfaces and what is syntax ? |
| 14:22.42 | abrotman | massctrl: uhm .. no |
| 14:22.49 | abrotman | massctrl: you were already given the command to use |
| 14:22.53 | hark | massctrl: try again.. aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall apache2.2-common |
| 14:22.57 | petemc | krassy: sure, as normail, except use eth0:1 |
| 14:22.57 | abrotman | !confmiss |
| 14:22.57 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
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| 14:23.13 | hark | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.17 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:25.30 | abrotman | clamd is a hog :) |
| 14:26.03 | krassy | petemc:Do you meen after rows "iface eth0 inet static ........" i need to add "iface eth0:1 inet static .." ? |
| 14:26.04 | Instabin | where do i set the environment variables LIBXML2_CFLAGS and LIBXML2_LIBS too |
| 14:26.18 | abrotman | Instabin: you were already told |
| 14:26.27 | abrotman | Instabin: or do you want them permanent ? |
| 14:26.46 | abrotman | Instabin: oh .. you don't know the values ... |
| 14:26.50 | petemc | krassy: yeah |
| 14:27.03 | Instabin | abortman: correct I do not know the values |
| 14:27.04 | abrotman | Instabin: you shouldn't have to set those |
| 14:27.09 | krassy | petemc: 10x |
| 14:27.27 | Instabin | abortman: when im compiling a program its asking for them |
| 14:27.37 | abrotman | Instabin: it should be able to derive those |
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| 14:27.57 | hark | Instabin: what are you compiling? |
| 14:28.04 | Instabin | abrotman: its asking me to set them or PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
| 14:28.11 | jlc | anyone using lenny +ipw3945 +amd64? |
| 14:28.15 | Instabin | hark: gnome 2.18 |
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| 14:28.22 | abrotman | you sohlud be using the PKG_CONFIG_PATH .. damned if i know why it can't find them |
| 14:28.24 | hark | oh boy :) |
| 14:28.25 | jlc | combo isn't working, i386 lenny works |
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| 14:28.39 | abrotman | !info gnome-panel lenny |
| 14:28.41 | dpkg | gnome-panel: (launcher and docking facility for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.18.3-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 394 kB, Installed size: 944 kB |
| 14:29.06 | massctrl | abrotman, hark: ok, know I realise what "/msg dpkg confmis" means,....my bad, ... thanks. not automatically reinstalling config files when they've been removed manually, can have it's advantages but you must know how to handle it, ... |
| 14:29.07 | Instabin | abortman: where should i set PKG_CONFIG_PATH too.. |
| 14:29.20 | abrotman | massctrl: right |
| 14:29.30 | pourriture | I just leapt without looking and did a dist-upgrade that messed up my video. The vid is 945G/GZ Express Integrated, and there appear to be problems with the xserver-xorg-video-intel package in lenny. I have attempted to pin that package (and it's predecessor xserver-xorg-video-i810) to etch using Pin: version 1.7.2* but not having much luck. Is there a better way to downgrade that? |
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| 14:30.41 | hark | purge the other one, and install the i810 one? |
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| 14:33.09 | thelostbutler | instabin: please use garnome if you want to compile from sources http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/ . debian also has the source packages in unstable if you rather build debian packages |
| 14:33.41 | thelostbutler | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/gnome for already compiled packages |
| 14:33.53 | Instabin | thelostbutler: thats what im using |
| 14:34.08 | Instabin | it errors on check for libmxl2 |
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| 14:34.16 | ampex | I have a script that starts up a webserver, basically running a binary with & at the end to make it a background process. When I run it as one user via SSH and logout it stays active, but when I run it as another, it closes when I close the SSH session. Any ideas? What controls this behavior? |
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| 14:36.14 | Instabin | Here is the error im getting http://rafb.net/p/UhWwY333.html |
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| 14:37.12 | mikefoo | Hey guys im used to fecora/centos distro - where can I read up on getting familiar with debian? |
| 14:37.27 | mikefoo | the package management.. the different dir paths.. etc.. |
| 14:37.32 | hark | without looking at it.. do you have libxml2-dev installed? |
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| 14:37.47 | hark | mikefoo: /msg dpkg grounding |
| 14:38.44 | thelostbutler | instabin: you will need to install libxml2-dev |
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| 14:39.17 | Instabin | thelostbutler: just did... trying to compile now |
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| 14:39.46 | bln-bine | hallo |
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| 14:40.04 | thelostbutler | mikefoo:http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 14:40.10 | Instabin | Will this take a long time to compile? |
| 14:40.37 | Instabin | the last thing i compiled was a kernel on redhat 4 or 5 |
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| 14:43.23 | Instabin | Now im getting an error that it can not find X but im running gnome right now |
| 14:43.34 | Instabin | 2.14 |
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| 14:46.38 | thelostbutler | instabin: you will need a lot of -dev packages for compiling gnome. just out of curiosity why are you compiling gnome than use the debian packages ? |
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| 14:47.16 | Instabin | thelostbutler is there debain packages for gnome 2.18? |
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| 14:47.40 | thelostbutler | instabin: http://packages.debian.org you can search . |
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| 14:51.16 | dadadadada | petemc:About /etc/network/interfaces - Do NOT work , please join to #flood i want to paste the file |
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| 14:51.33 | abrotman | Instabin: why are oyu even compiling gnome ?> |
| 14:52.02 | jlc | I like to do it for fun |
| 14:52.25 | jlc | I get bored easily |
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| 14:53.09 | petemc | dadadadada: you msg me it if you like |
| 14:53.22 | Instabin | abortman: to make gnome 2.18 work on debian 4 |
| 14:53.33 | schoppenhauer | hello. i am trying to make a dist-upgrade at the moment but aptitude seems not to be able to do so because it seems not to be able to upgrade libc6. i didnt find a bug telling anything related to this, i think its some dependency problem. Here's the output of aptitude: http://pastebin.ca/641828 can somebody please help me? |
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| 14:53.42 | petemc | dadadadada: also, i know it does work, as i use that method |
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| 14:54.21 | ys76 | schoppenhauer: maybe your disc is fulll |
| 14:54.23 | schoppenhauer | i am *absolutely* sure that *now* there *is* enough space (there are about 200 Gigabytes of disk space) |
| 14:54.33 | schoppenhauer | ys76: certainly not. |
| 14:54.47 | stew | schoppenhauer: can you please pastebin the output of "df -h" ? |
| 14:55.00 | abrotman | Instabin: no kidding .. but why? |
| 14:55.03 | schoppenhauer | stew: in what directory? |
| 14:55.07 | stew | schoppenhauer: any |
| 14:55.12 | abrotman | i thought they finished the 2.18 backports |
| 14:55.29 | schoppenhauer | stew: not the whole, ok. i leave the cryptodisks out, ok? |
| 14:55.48 | schoppenhauer | stew: for obvious reasons ^^ |
| 14:56.01 | benjamindees | hi. I'm looking for task management software that will allow me to view and modify complex dependencies, as well as keep track of individual task attributes such as cost/etc; I'm not in need of scheduling or gantt charts though. Any suggestions? |
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| 14:56.45 | stew | schoppenhauer: i'm interested in /,/tmp/,var,/usr mostly |
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| 14:57.30 | dadadadada | petemc:maybe i do something wrong do you see the file in /msg ? |
| 14:57.48 | petemc | dadadadada: no, probably you're not idenified - use a pastebin site |
| 14:58.02 | petemc | dadadadada: or, double check your syntax, as it definately works |
| 14:58.10 | schoppenhauer | stew: http://pastebin.ca/641836 - but i symlinked /var/cache/apt to /media/sdb1/apt |
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| 14:58.30 | themill | schoppenhauer: your root disk is full |
| 14:58.30 | iyaeb | Q: Which CDs or DVDs do I want to do an offline install? I see 4 DVDs. Do I need them all? |
| 14:58.51 | stew | schoppenhauer: / is full |
| 14:58.53 | schoppenhauer | wah. why that? |
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| 14:58.57 | abrotman | iyaeb: depends on what you want to install .. |
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| 14:59.05 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 14:59.05 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the cds: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search ; If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt, or http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
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| 14:59.12 | stew | schoppenhauer: /dev/sda2 259M 257M 0 100% / |
| 14:59.16 | themill | schoppenhauer: the installation is trying to expand things in /lib (to start with) |
| 14:59.27 | schoppenhauer | hm. what can I do about that? |
| 14:59.40 | dadadadada | petemc:http://pastebin.ca/641838 |
| 15:00.13 | schoppenhauer | stew, themill: i thought only the kernel and some essential things are on / and not on /usr... ok... libc6 is essential but... anything i could do? |
| 15:00.27 | petemc | dadadadada: that looks fine, except that its commented out |
| 15:00.52 | iyaeb | abrotman,dpkg: thanks in advance. I'll look. |
| 15:01.05 | themill | schoppenhauer: libc needs to be on / as well as it's needed to mount /usr later in the boot process. |
| 15:01.24 | stew | schoppenhauer: check to see if there is stuff that can be removed from /root ? are there extra kernels installed? |
| 15:01.29 | petemc | dadadadada: oh, and all my aliased addresses are on the same subnet - im not sure what happens when they're using different gateways etc |
| 15:01.29 | dadadadada | petemc: do not work after uncomment! |
| 15:01.46 | iyaeb | Q: To install a basic system, does the first DVD suffice? |
| 15:01.49 | schoppenhauer | stew: ah. yes. some older kernels are still installed. i try to remove them |
| 15:02.22 | Instabin | abortman: found backported gnome thanks |
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| 15:04.28 | themill | schoppenhauer: I have a similar partitioning scheme to that on another machine and I can get away with 85M on / so you should be able to free some space. Kernels (and compiled modules) are good ones to target. |
| 15:04.37 | Instabin | 718 packages going to take 30-50 mins to download |
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| 15:05.25 | schoppenhauer | themill: yes... i removed the image... now... i have to worry that my pc crashes... |
| 15:05.33 | schoppenhauer | themill: cause if it crashes there would be no kernel ^^ |
| 15:05.45 | dadadadada | stew:Please would you see one /etc/network/interfaces file at http://pastebin.ca/641838 , the things do not work arter uncomment last rows and reboot i just want to add secondary IP on eth0 ? |
| 15:05.59 | themill | schoppenhauer: you didn't remove the kernel that's currently running, did you? |
| 15:06.56 | schoppenhauer | themill: i did ^^ - thats the only one which was installed... but if it fails i have images of my disks to restore anything |
| 15:07.17 | stew | dadadadada: you can't have more than one default gateway in the same routing table, if you want to have more than one default gatweay, you have to setup mulitple routing tables: /msg dpkg split access |
| 15:07.47 | stew | dadadadada: and you shouldn't be specifying 'network' and 'broadcast' unless you are trying to do something funky and non-standard |
| 15:07.53 | schoppenhauer | themill: i know i shouldnt do this but this kernel didnt work properly anyway |
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| 15:08.43 | themill | schoppenhauer: hmmm.... ok.... you must have some other cruft on / that you can kill off too. Backups or downloaded src or debs in /root? |
| 15:09.11 | schoppenhauer | themill: not that i know. |
| 15:09.37 | schoppenhauer | themill: lets just hope that it wont crash now, if it doesnt, i am lucky ^^ |
| 15:09.38 | Instabin | all this network talk... Is there any way i can get 5 dhcp assigned addresses? |
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| 15:09.56 | Instabin | on one adaptor |
| 15:10.03 | schoppenhauer | themill: and... the kernel 2.6.22-blablubb is already installed and is able to boot... i just dont use it at the moment. |
| 15:10.46 | themill | schoppenhauer: ah so you do have a spare kernel installed. Have you had any disk failures? Stuff in /lost+found? |
| 15:10.50 | dadadadada | stew:Thank you very much - I must write a script and use IP command and policy routing (rules tables ,etc) right? |
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| 15:11.13 | schoppenhauer | themill: no. |
| 15:11.33 | themill | schoppenhauer: you can try "du / -kx" or "du / -kx | sort -n" to look for dirs that are taking up all the space. |
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| 15:12.51 | bln-bine | hi |
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| 15:13.22 | cast | hmmm, :e scp://peter@stuff.com/interesting.txt doesn't work for me in vim...is that not compiled in in the debian vim or something? |
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| 15:13.34 | stew | dadadadada: yes |
| 15:13.51 | themill | cast: sure it's not sftp? |
| 15:14.22 | cast | themill: awesome :) |
| 15:14.34 | cast | themill: howto i was reading used scp, but sftp works |
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| 15:15.16 | petemc | cast: that works for me |
| 15:15.20 | themill | cast: i'd never come across it at all... but I use the sftp (and fish) kio_slaves through konqi quite often. |
| 15:15.22 | petemc | scp |
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| 15:16.52 | cast | ***netrw*** cannot determine method is what i get for scp |
| 15:17.02 | cast | argh. can't actually get sftp to work though either |
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| 15:18.04 | petemc | :!scp -q pete@yerma.org:test.txt /tmp/v984709/1 |
| 15:18.04 | petemc | Password: |
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| 15:19.53 | cast | http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1075 cool |
| 15:20.45 | petemc | im still using 6 something |
| 15:21.06 | bln-bine | does anyone have an idea, how i could find out, which soundcard is in my ibook (g3, debian lenny testing)? lspci |grep -i audio isnt giving information back, cat /proc/asound/cards said: --no soundcards.. |
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| 15:22.57 | xlotlu | i have a 1400x1050 lcd, booting with vga=840; all looks ok until i start X. after X starts, the console gets messy, text looking offset and ghosted. any idea for a fix? |
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| 15:23.03 | Noborusan | bed time,night to all. |
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| 15:23.32 | Noborusan | Debian is nice,i use it part of the reason is its very easy to mantance ,upgrade etc. |
| 15:23.36 | Noborusan | bye. |
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| 15:24.08 | cast | uh |
| 15:24.12 | |fluxdude3| | i've deleted my /var/lib/dpkg/status file, now dpkg -l shows no installed packages. How do I regenerate that file> |
| 15:24.15 | |fluxdude3| | ? |
| 15:24.24 | cast | for future reference, sftp host:.bashrc doesn't promt you before overwriting :| |
| 15:24.52 | stew | |fluxdude3|: /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 |
| 15:24.56 | jelly | cast: why should it? :-) |
| 15:25.24 | jelly | cast: cp and mv don't prompt by default wither |
| 15:25.41 | jelly | s/w/e/ |
| 15:25.43 | |fluxdude3| | thanks stew I'll try that |
| 15:25.49 | benjamindees | okay really all I want is a to-do list that can handle subtasks and cross-dependencies. does such a thing exist? |
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| 15:26.26 | phix | haha, grisom got laid |
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| 15:27.35 | cast | ok i found the issue |
| 15:27.41 | cast | i was going sftp://user@host:path |
| 15:27.48 | cast | whereas its sftp://user@host/path |
| 15:27.56 | cast | [well, i didn't find it. someone in #vim pointed it out] |
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| 15:28.28 | \amethyst | benjamindees: I don't know about dependencies, but devtodo claims to support subtasks |
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| 15:29.15 | petemc | cast: thats not right, if you use :e scp://user@host/file , it changes it to user@host:file automagically |
| 15:29.45 | cast | petemc: what part are you disagreeing with? |
| 15:29.50 | techbee | bln-bine: try hwinfo |
| 15:30.04 | petemc | cast: that one works and not the other |
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| 15:30.34 | cast | sftp://user@host:path doesn't work, AFACT |
| 15:30.51 | cast | AFAICT even |
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| 15:33.06 | \amethyst | petemc: it works on the sftp command line, but this was another program which was expecting SFTP URLs to be ordinary URLs, with slash for the host/dir separator |
| 15:34.04 | petemc | \amethyst: i thought we were talking about vim.. |
| 15:34.08 | bln-bine | techbee: Nothing showing up in hwinfo sounds like soundcard... |
| 15:34.29 | \amethyst | petemc: netrw specifically |
| 15:36.11 | \amethyst | petemc: I can verify the behaviour: using a colon to separate the host and dir in an SFTP URI doesn't work in vim. Tt gives E121: Undefined variable: b:netrw_fname and a few more errors |
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| 15:37.31 | petemc | \amethyst: yes, i just tried, it doesnt work with scp either - odd then, that when you use a slash it changes it to a colon before connecting.. |
| 15:37.42 | benjamindees | devtodo doesn't look suitable; taskjuggler comes close |
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| 15:40.32 | bln-bine | ata-4/ide0/0.0 |
| 15:40.32 | bln-bine | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:46.20 | StereoSkit | window close |
| 15:46.23 | StereoSkit | heh |
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| 15:47.23 | edutiao | hello @ll |
| 15:47.32 | edutiao | could anyone help me? |
| 15:47.57 | junix|work | hi, my box keeps locking up every couple of days...i use vmware but i don't think this is the culprit, i'm usinga IBM ThinkCentre A50, any recommendations? |
| 15:47.59 | edutiao | i'm trying to prevent a modulo from loading at boot time |
| 15:48.03 | benjamindees | hello computer. |
| 15:48.41 | edutiao | but i don't know how! |
| 15:48.48 | abrotman | !tell edutiao about blacklist |
| 15:49.55 | benjamindees | junix|work, what is your video card? |
| 15:49.58 | edutiao | abrotman: great! thanks |
| 15:50.51 | junix|work | benjamindees: Nvidia GeForce 2 MX 440 |
| 15:51.26 | benjamindees | junix|work, and are you using the nvidia driver or the nv driver? |
| 15:51.50 | junix|work | benjamindees: nvidia |
| 15:52.09 | junix|work | but at home, i'm using nv |
| 15:52.13 | junix|work | what do i need to do? |
| 15:53.06 | benjamindees | I would try using the vesa driver for a while, or disable acceleration, to see if the video driver is the problem. |
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| 15:53.38 | junix|work | benjamindees: how do i disable acceleration?? |
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| 15:55.45 | benjamindees | put Option "NoAccel" "True" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 15:55.56 | junix|work | benjamindees: ok |
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| 15:56.13 | benjamindees | under the driver section |
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| 15:57.01 | benjamindees | er 'Device' section |
| 15:57.18 | junix|work | ok brb |
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| 15:58.04 | xlotlu | something's trying coninuously to do modprobe -q -- eth1 ; any idea what that might be? |
| 15:58.29 | vy | Hi, all! Does anybody have an idea about why do I see \fb, \fR .br characters in some certain manual files? (e.g. manuals coming with git-core 1:1.5.2.4-1) |
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| 16:00.18 | vy | I don't think git guys would be mistaken while coding manuals. |
| 16:00.40 | dadadadada | where is default location in etch on ip command from iproute package /bin or /sbin ? |
| 16:00.52 | petemc | dadadadada: dpkg -L iproute |
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| 16:01.33 | kmindi|ibm-t20 | hey guys, I have the following problem: I am using Debian Linux on my IBM T20 and the acpi program shows wrong information , it says the battery is charged if I plug in the ac adapter. |
| 16:01.48 | kmindi|ibm-t20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.58 | dadadadada | i have it in /bin AND in /sbin too ! |
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| 16:02.41 | kmindi|ibm-t20 | I removed and installed it but still not working, a reboot did not make any change, too |
| 16:03.13 | vy | dadadadada: Then try dpkg -S /{sbin,bin}/iproute |
| 16:03.22 | kmindi|ibm-t20 | it cant be charged with 45% |
| 16:03.39 | stew | dadadadada: ls -l /sbin/ip |
| 16:03.52 | kmindi|ibm-t20 | cause a day before it was at 100% ^^, I just pluged the ac adapter a few times out an in |
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| 16:04.40 | dadadadada | stew:lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Oct 23 04:29 /sbin/ip -> /bin/ip - What this meens ? |
| 16:04.51 | stew | dadadadada: its a symlink from one to the other |
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| 16:06.21 | dadadadada | stew:What i need to use in bash scripts or no mather ? |
| 16:06.47 | jika388 | Hi all, Im setting up an extra old computer for guests at my home to use to check their email, and i was wondering if ther was a way to set the login screen to not appear at all and just auto login to an un-privileged user by default? |
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| 16:06.50 | stew | dadadadada: doesn't matter |
| 16:06.59 | dadadadada | stew:10x |
| 16:08.10 | stew | jika388: gdm has auto-login |
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| 16:09.11 | aleph1 | hi. I have a sgid question |
| 16:09.27 | BUMBACL0T | good for you |
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| 16:09.32 | aleph1 | I have a binary "Usr/local/libexec/pwauth" which works perfectly as root |
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| 16:09.47 | aleph1 | it does not work as www-data - the user that's meant to run it |
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| 16:09.59 | aleph1 | the permissions are root root -rwsr-sr-x |
| 16:10.09 | stew | aleph1: what happens when the www-data user tries to run it? |
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| 16:10.45 | aleph1 | it returns withh return value 50 |
| 16:10.46 | junix|work | benjamindees: now vlc doesn't work :-( |
| 16:10.57 | aleph1 | normally it should prompt for a username |
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| 16:12.09 | aleph1 | ok. hang on. I've found something.... |
| 16:12.16 | karmatronic | junix|work: that s a problem, vlc is cool...what did you do ? |
| 16:12.39 | junix|work | karmatronic: updateed and rebooted |
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| 16:12.55 | benjamindees | junix|work, use vlc -V x11 |
| 16:13.14 | obsethryl | hmm is lenny getting close to having beryl in a repo as well? |
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| 16:13.54 | junix|work | benjamindees: why do i have to do that? |
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| 16:14.04 | benjamindees | junix|work, because you disabled xv |
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| 16:14.10 | junix|work | ah |
| 16:14.25 | junix|work | benjamindees: you mean the accel?? |
| 16:14.35 | benjamindees | yes |
| 16:14.46 | junix|work | will i have to do this all the time? |
| 16:15.28 | benjamindees | if the nvidia driver is the cause of your lockups, and you no longer wish to have them, then yes |
| 16:16.05 | junix|work | benjamindees: is there a way make it do this all the time whren i click on app menu?? |
| 16:16.10 | obsethryl | ok then i guess i am still left with the option of using sid repos |
| 16:16.12 | karmatronic | junix|work: well you can set an alias for vlc if you want |
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| 16:16.54 | benjamindees | junix|work, I'm sure there is, but if you're using Gnome I'm sure I don't know exactly what it is |
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| 16:17.06 | tdn | How do I wipe free space on a USB storage device? Zeroes is ok. |
| 16:17.13 | junix|work | k |
| 16:17.41 | rahul | tdn: cat /dev/zero > device |
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| 16:17.56 | benjamindees | that will overwrite the entire device, not just free space... |
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| 16:22.43 | Gg1 | Hi , I created a shll account in my Debian machine . Now how I can remotely connect as I get NATed IP from my ISP ? |
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| 16:26.13 | benjamindees | Ggl, what OS are you on now? what is the host/domain name of the debian machine? |
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| 16:27.35 | tdn | rahul, that will wipe my data too. Instead what I did was dd if=/dev/zeri of=filler ; rm filler. |
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| 16:27.55 | tdn | rahul, I only wanted to wipe *free* space. |
| 16:28.42 | deadlyliver | Nickserv identify alphafn |
| 16:29.10 | semprix | !virtual machines |
| 16:29.17 | semprix | !vmware |
| 16:29.17 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported. Ask the vendor for support, or ask here: #vmware |
| 16:29.35 | Gg1 | benjamindees , you mean the address of the machine ? |
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| 16:30.04 | semprix | guys how do i setup virtual machines on debian? |
| 16:30.14 | obsethryl | semprix: with vmware? |
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| 16:30.40 | benjamindees | or qemu... |
| 16:30.58 | obsethryl | well |
| 16:31.02 | obsethryl | whatever you choose ... |
| 16:31.03 | viller | I like new software, should I use "testing"? |
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| 16:31.16 | obsethryl | vmware, kvm or xen based ... it will work on debian |
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| 16:31.40 | metbsd | vmware is pretty good |
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| 16:32.02 | semprix | metbsd |
| 16:32.03 | benjamindees | viller, sure, unless you mean gentoo 'new' |
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| 16:32.08 | semprix | have you tried using it? |
| 16:32.16 | metbsd | no |
| 16:32.21 | metbsd | i just know the name |
| 16:32.28 | metbsd | i like the name, that's all |
| 16:32.49 | fasta | I am using fetchmail, but everytime it gets about 900 messages from the gmail server. I use the keep option, but it shouldn't get the same messages over and over. |
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| 16:33.04 | MrParity | hi ho :-) |
| 16:33.25 | benjamindees | Ggl, you likely need to have your ISP setup port forwarding to your ssh port |
| 16:33.28 | metbsd | fetchmail work with gmail now? wow |
| 16:33.54 | viller | benjamindees: what's gentoo new? Compiling CVS stuff? |
| 16:34.02 | fasta | metbsd: well, it doesn't work perfectly until I have this question answered. |
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| 16:34.06 | benjamindees | viller, yep |
| 16:34.29 | dadadadada | bue |
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| 16:35.11 | Gg1 | Benjamindees , In my router , i have forwared port 22 to my Debian machine |
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| 16:35.57 | stew | metbsd: fetchmail has worked with gmail since gmail was first started |
| 16:36.08 | metbsd | that's nice |
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| 16:36.55 | MrParity | on a fresh etch installation i have a problem with iceweasle and umlauts. on some sites i'm not able to enter umlauts in textfields. and i don't know where so search for this error. |
| 16:37.09 | benjamindees | Ggl, what do you mean by "I get NATed IP from my ISP"? you mean your router does NAT and you have a real IP address? |
| 16:37.14 | MrParity | does anyone know this bug? |
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| 16:37.31 | bonez39 | Here's a question..if my machine reboots due to power failure, or otherwise, it doesn't just come back up..it halts at boot at (hd2,0) and won't boot until I e edit it..changing it to (hd0,0) and then b to boot it...I run update-grub and it sets all boot options to this erroneous (hd2,0) location... |
| 16:37.44 | bonez39 | I'd like to figure out why it's doing this......my two drives are both SATA...and I have no IDE drives in this box... |
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| 16:38.55 | obsethryl | time for an x restart and see if beryl works as it should |
| 16:39.00 | benjamindees | bonez39, is your BIOS setup to do any funky drive letter swapping? |
| 16:39.13 | bonez39 | benjamindees: no, no fancy letter swapping in BIOS... |
| 16:39.17 | Gg1 | benjamindess , My IP adress on internet side is 59.x.x.x and is NATED by my ISP to 10.x.x.x then my router + local LAN uses 192.x.x.x |
| 16:39.21 | bonez39 | BIOS is old...1997..it's an old machine... |
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| 16:40.29 | xingu | bonez39: what does /boot/grub/device.map say? |
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| 16:40.48 | bonez39 | xingu: let me check |
| 16:41.18 | viller | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/bt-cd/ do I need 20+ CDs to install Debian :D? |
| 16:41.21 | bonez39 | (hd0) /dev/hda |
| 16:41.21 | bonez39 | (hd1) /dev/hdb |
| 16:41.21 | bonez39 | (hd2) /dev/hde |
| 16:41.50 | benjamindees | viller, no you can do it with one, or three |
| 16:41.52 | xingu | bonez39: within linux, is your /boot partition on hde or hda? |
| 16:41.57 | obsethryl | oh yes it works :) |
| 16:41.59 | obsethryl | and brilliantly too |
| 16:42.05 | stew | viller: no, you don't need all 20. do you have any idea if you can get onto the internet using a stock debian kernel? |
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| 16:42.47 | nvz | ugh I can't find a damn WYSIWYG website design tool anywhere that either supports SFTP or local publishing.. if you publish locally then use another program to sftp the links are all absolute local paths |
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| 16:43.13 | xingu | nvz: unless you publish as ${protocol} to localhost. |
| 16:43.35 | dashs | Ran the automated update yesterday. Features now fail in iceweasel. How can I regress to the previous version? |
| 16:43.49 | nvz | xingu: I don't see how publishing to localhost with ftp would help |
| 16:44.15 | xingu | nvz: it'd prevent the links from turning into absolute local paths, leaving you with a fs based repository which you could (recursively) sftp. |
| 16:44.26 | viller | stew: any idea of what? Installing stuff? apt-cache search and apt-get install? |
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| 16:44.51 | nvz | xingu: I am trying to use nvu cause it works on all the platforms I need.. mac/windows/linux but if I publish to say /home/nvz/g all links or image url will be file:///home/nvz/g/...blah |
| 16:45.10 | stew | viller: will you be installing onto a machine that is connected to the internet? |
| 16:45.31 | nvz | xingu: yeah but then they'd be ftp://localhost/ or something and still wouldnt work once I upload em |
| 16:45.39 | xingu | nvz: and if you publish as either ftp://localhost/, or, after creative hostsfile munging, http://nvs.has.a.bigger.ween.ie/ ? |
| 16:45.47 | nvz | xingu: just being fuking relative instead of absolute would be fine |
| 16:46.12 | nvz | xingu: host file munghing wont help this has to work on windows and mac too |
| 16:46.34 | viller | stew: yes |
| 16:46.37 | nvz | xingu: mostly I am the only one using debian and I am just running the server, and I know how to program webpages from scratch with an editor |
| 16:46.48 | xingu | nvz: distributing hostsfile munging via split-view dns |
| 16:47.00 | xingu | nvz: or give up and run dreamweaver |
| 16:47.03 | nvz | xingu: I need a damn tool that I can give idiots to make pages on this debian server and they can do so properly without me having to support ftp |
| 16:47.03 | viller | stew: sorry for talking shizn I didn't read what you said correctly :P |
| 16:47.18 | stew | viller: do you know what network card it would be using to connect to the internet? |
| 16:47.24 | nvz | xingu: dreamweaver supports sftp public key auth? |
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| 16:47.47 | xingu | nvz: no clue; http://www.washington.edu/computing/web/publishing/sftp-dw-mac.html |
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| 16:47.59 | romano2k^irssi | hi everyone! |
| 16:48.42 | nvz | xingu: macromedia contribute 3 I have.. it supports sftp supposedly but not public key.. and even with passwords it doesnt appear to work for me. that program is like $300 though |
| 16:48.42 | viller | stew: not now but I can find out |
| 16:48.49 | romano2k^irssi | i'm having trouble installing nvidia-glx under the testing branch |
| 16:48.51 | nvz | xingu: well for the new adobe version |
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| 16:48.56 | viller | stew: just tell me what CD I have to download |
| 16:48.58 | romano2k^irssi | there's no "nvidia-glx" packet available |
| 16:49.19 | bonez39 | xingu: how do I change it? on my system /dev/hda really is my DVD drive...and my primary hdd shows at /dev/hde |
| 16:49.45 | nvz | xingu: but this is for govt so if I could find ANYthing that would work I could probably buy it no matter what it costs. |
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| 16:49.59 | hark | !why is nvidia-glx not in testing |
| 16:49.59 | dpkg | nvidia-glx is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx |
| 16:50.00 | stew | viller: if it is a network card that is supported by the default debian kernel (which supports pretty much all cards that can be supported using free software), then you only need the first cd, or a ~150mb netinst cd, and the rest of the packages not on that cd can be installed via the internet |
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| 16:50.16 | nvz | I just cant find anything that supports SFTP or any simple way to give users on mac/win/linux a way to make pages and post them to an SFTP Public Key site |
| 16:50.22 | romano2k^irssi | hark: what should I do then? |
| 16:50.23 | bonez39 | xingu: did you get my response? |
| 16:50.29 | sebdah | Hi! I get error 7 "Couldn't connect to host" when trying "curl https://test.payex.com:443/pxclient/pxclient.asmx". What might be the problem? |
| 16:50.35 | nvz | nvu and fugu/winscp/scp is what I got now and its not working at all |
| 16:50.38 | xingu | bonez39: evidently not at boot-time; your hw config doesn't match your hw capability-set. |
| 16:50.50 | xingu | bonez39: suggest you swap your cdrom and hdd controllers |
| 16:51.02 | xingu | bonez39: or get a less busted bios. |
| 16:51.15 | stew | sebdah: does "host test.payex.com" return an ip address? |
| 16:51.35 | nvz | its like there is no fucking way to run a website that is designed by morons without using insecure FTP and I simply cannot do that. |
| 16:51.54 | viller | stew: does the first CD include Xorg? |
| 16:51.59 | stew | viller: yes |
| 16:52.02 | sebdah | stew: command not found. But it does on my own PC (not the server) |
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| 16:52.11 | xingu | bonez39: nub of the problem is that at boot-time your HDD peripheral is bus0 target0 however this is not the order in which linux ennumerates your controllers. |
| 16:52.13 | nvz | all the web devel tools I can find will use ftp flawlessly but even the ones that claim to support sftp don't actually work |
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| 16:52.24 | stew | sebdah: try "getent hosts test.payex.com" instead |
| 16:52.25 | dondelelcaro | nvz: there's lots of visual sftp clients; and you can also use ftps. |
| 16:52.28 | stew | sebdah: (on the server) |
| 16:52.28 | hark | romano2k^irssi: don't know, get/backport from sid i guess. |
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| 16:52.37 | romano2k^irssi | :/ |
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| 16:52.42 | romano2k^irssi | i'll try, thank you. |
| 16:52.52 | dondelelcaro | nvz: a lot of the "visual html editors" directly support ftps. |
| 16:53.08 | xingu | bonez39: it /might/ work if you just hand edit that file to make hde (hd0) |
| 16:53.09 | hark | /msg dpkg nvidia post_etch |
| 16:53.17 | xingu | bonez39: ... and hda (hd2) ... |
| 16:53.19 | sebdah | stew: "213.193.22.78 www.lycos-vds.com test.payex.com.lycos-vds.com" was the answer |
| 16:53.31 | nvz | dondelelcaro: yes I know.. thats not the issue.. if they use a WYSIWYG client and it doesnt support SFTP how to I stop them from building webpages that won't work for anyone but them cause all the URI are absolute paths on their HD |
| 16:53.32 | xingu | bonez39: however it also might not - proceed with caution |
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| 16:54.11 | nvz | dondelelcaro: if the client isn't aware where its publishing to, it will design webpages that won't work once they are uploaded is the aggrivation here |
| 16:54.15 | stew | sebdah: that is the problem, that is not the right ip address. you should check /etc/resolv.conf (man resolv.conf) |
| 16:54.49 | sebdah | stew: oh, I've had DNS problems before |
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| 16:54.59 | sebdah | stew: thanks for the help |
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| 16:55.43 | apachelogger | ahoy there! |
| 16:56.00 | apachelogger | where can I find the sarge repository? |
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| 16:56.09 | nvz | land ho, argh.. ey matie |
| 16:56.12 | symbol | hey gang |
| 16:56.40 | symbol | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.40 | symbol | I don't know the command for browser |
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| 16:56.40 | nvz | symbol: which file browser? |
| 16:56.40 | hark | nautilus |
| 16:56.54 | nvz | symbol: there are only like 40 of them in debian |
| 16:57.02 | symbol | nvz: like the graphical one in kde |
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| 16:57.08 | symbol | nvz: any will do, please |
| 16:57.15 | nvz | symbol: thats called konqueror |
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| 16:57.23 | o2T7 | hi |
| 16:57.24 | symbol | nvz: thx dude, I'll try it |
| 16:57.27 | nvz | symbol: and you dont have to use gksu iirc |
| 16:57.36 | o2T7 | which are the fastest p2p? |
| 16:57.47 | nvz | symbol: it has a root mode IIRC you just choose it in the menu and give password |
| 16:58.03 | symbol | damn, didn't work |
| 16:58.12 | symbol | praveer: I'll try nautilus |
| 16:58.33 | symbol | sweet, nautilus works |
| 16:58.41 | symbol | praveer: I owe you one. |
| 16:58.52 | c`alin | is there wany way to make it use gksude instead of gksu? |
| 16:58.53 | nvz | you should try doing it the right way.. I am fairly certain KDE being like idiot proof doesnt need you to gksu from a command line to use konq as root |
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| 16:59.20 | symbol | nvz: sadly someone tricked me into using Ubuntu, which won't let me log in as root |
| 16:59.32 | nvz | symbol: haha... go get debian. |
| 16:59.36 | AKX | Heya, how can I mount an USB pendrive I connected? Using xfce4, to be different. :P |
| 16:59.37 | hark | wtf is praveer ;) |
| 16:59.38 | AKX | symbol: sudo su |
| 16:59.57 | apachelogger | sudo -i |
| 17:00.00 | apachelogger | ah |
| 17:00.03 | apachelogger | got the repo url |
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| 17:00.04 | apachelogger | stupid me |
| 17:00.11 | o2T7 | the fastest p2p under debian? |
| 17:00.13 | apachelogger | thanks, none the less ^_^ |
| 17:00.14 | apachelogger | cya |
| 17:00.14 | symbol | nvz: my only concern is that debian won't support my wireless cards |
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| 17:00.25 | symbol | nvz: otherwise I'm --so-- ready to roll on some debian |
| 17:00.58 | o2T7 | any of you use a p2p different of torrent or ed2k? |
| 17:01.04 | hark | symbol: which chipset? |
| 17:01.36 | symbol | hark: ra-link 2500 |
| 17:01.53 | o2T7 | symbol: rt2500 is supported |
| 17:01.55 | dkr | o2T7: I used ed2k for most anime, torrents for recent tv shows |
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| 17:02.16 | julio123 | hello l need help with my repositories, l cant install almost any program :( here is my source list http://pastebin.com/m30c18d6b |
| 17:02.16 | o2T7 | dkr: I am looking for a fast p2p |
| 17:02.18 | dkr | o2T7: amule is the ed2k client |
| 17:02.20 | viller | are debian people very angry if I download debian through http/ftp rather than bittorrent? |
| 17:02.25 | o2T7 | I use amule |
| 17:02.34 | stew | viller: definately not |
| 17:02.36 | dkr | o2T7: p2p is rarely fast unless what you want is very popular |
| 17:02.41 | o2T7 | but nor it neither torrent seem to me enought fast |
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| 17:02.50 | Drakeson | I am getting no updates on debian/unstable in a few days. It used to have many updates. Am I missing the party? |
| 17:02.52 | o2T7 | dkr: it is true |
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| 17:03.06 | symbol | afk lunch |
| 17:03.12 | AKX | But yeah, um, how do I mount an USB pen drive? |
| 17:03.30 | o2T7 | AKX: dmesg|grep sd |
| 17:03.50 | o2T7 | && mount /dev/sdX /mnt/folder |
| 17:03.50 | hark | symbol: yeah, it should be supported. the drivers are in main itself |
| 17:04.16 | hark | Drakeson: yeah, probably |
| 17:04.32 | Drakeson | hark: what happened then? |
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| 17:04.43 | Drakeson | deb http://ftp.debian.org unstable main contrib non-free |
| 17:04.51 | o2T7 | AKX: You can also see your device "name" with running `tail -f /var/log/messages` and then plugging your usb device |
| 17:04.54 | xingu | nvz: here's a stray thought; let them use ftp - implement opie for the ftpd via pam. |
| 17:05.14 | irc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.17 | hark | Drakeson: try http://ftp.us.debian.org instead |
| 17:05.18 | julio123 | drakeson, is that for me? |
| 17:05.25 | irc_ | somebody help me, how to enable the audio output device? |
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| 17:05.34 | cahoot | for what? |
| 17:05.34 | hark | or another mirror nearby |
| 17:06.02 | irc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.36 | o2T7 | irc_: can you hear anthing as root? |
| 17:06.47 | irc_ | no |
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| 17:07.12 | cahoot | irc_, run aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav in a terminal - noise or error? |
| 17:07.32 | o2T7 | !sound |
| 17:07.33 | dpkg | hmm... sound is ask me about <alsa checklist>, <alsa one-liner>, <ac97>, <audio>, <dmix>, <esound> and <arts>. For sarge go to http://wiki.debian.org/UseSoundCard |
| 17:08.03 | irc_ | not working |
| 17:08.13 | Drakeson | hark: I just figured I have to use this: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
| 17:08.16 | cahoot | no noise no error? |
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| 17:08.27 | bashusr | how do you reconfigure a package from command line? |
| 17:08.31 | Drakeson | julio123: let me check yours ... |
| 17:08.36 | benjamindees | I was shocked to find that my new $10 wifi card had a chipset with a supported, open source driver. |
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| 17:08.52 | hark | bashusr: what package? |
| 17:08.55 | o2T7 | bashusr: dpkg-reconfigure package |
| 17:08.56 | Pres-Gas | benjamindees, what card is it |
| 17:09.00 | Drakeson | julio123: maybe you also need that /debian at the end of the url? |
| 17:09.02 | bashusr | thanks o2T7 |
| 17:09.10 | o2T7 | but it depends |
| 17:09.14 | cahoot | irc_, try invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 |
| 17:09.15 | XtypeWriter74 | hi |
| 17:09.17 | bashusr | hark: i mistakenly chose inetd when i wanted standalone for proftpd |
| 17:09.22 | o2T7 | not all packages are configured that way |
| 17:09.29 | masus | configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| 17:09.35 | bashusr | i want to run the curses gui again instead of modifying the config file |
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| 17:09.44 | masus | after i want to ./configure asterisk i get this error |
| 17:09.44 | cydork | benjamindees: which card is that? |
| 17:09.46 | Drakeson | like this maybe: deb http://security.debian.org/debian etch/updates non-free |
| 17:09.49 | masus | can anybody help |
| 17:09.52 | Drakeson | (though I am not sure) |
| 17:10.01 | cydork | masus: why are you compiling it? |
| 17:10.09 | masus | because it says me so |
| 17:10.10 | irc_ | <cahoot> no errors & no noise |
| 17:10.16 | hark | !etch security |
| 17:10.16 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org etch/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Regularly update your APT index and upgrade (e.g. # aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade) to keep up-to-date on security updates in Etch |
| 17:10.18 | cahoot | irc_, try invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 |
| 17:10.31 | irc_ | cahoot: no errors & no noise |
| 17:10.34 | julio123 | thanks all |
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| 17:10.47 | masus | afrer make install --> Please run "./configure". |
| 17:10.47 | cahoot | irc_, run aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav again |
| 17:10.48 | Pres-Gas | benjamindees, what card is it? |
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| 17:11.08 | masus | cydork: help please :) |
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| 17:11.41 | cydork | masus: again why are you compiling it? |
| 17:11.43 | benjamindees | cydork, Pres-Gas it was a trendnet I got at compusa |
| 17:11.53 | pickcoder | masus: there is a pre-compiled package for Debian |
| 17:11.55 | masus | cydork **** |
| 17:11.55 | masus | **** The configure script must be executed before running 'make'. |
| 17:11.55 | masus | **** Please run "./configure". |
| 17:11.55 | masus | **** |
| 17:11.55 | masus | make: *** [makeopts] Error 1 |
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| 17:12.03 | irc_ | <cahoot>nothing happen |
| 17:12.08 | cydork | wtf? |
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| 17:12.23 | cydork | masus: just use the packages which are available in debian. |
| 17:12.36 | cydork | masus: and don't paste in the channel. |
| 17:12.40 | cahoot | irc_, cat /proc/asound/cards - only one card listed? |
| 17:12.45 | cydork | benjamindees: works great? |
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| 17:13.04 | Pres-Gas | benjamindees, just for paranoia's sake, what is the model of trendnet? |
| 17:13.09 | masus | but i want to install the release version of asterisk 1.4.9 |
| 17:13.24 | irc_ | <cahoot> result: resetting ALSA card 0 |
| 17:13.56 | masus | if i do apt-get install asterisk --> the 1.2.* verison is installing |
| 17:14.01 | cahoot | irc_, this must be you running alsa-utils reset ? |
| 17:14.04 | masus | but i want the 1.4.9 |
| 17:14.10 | cydork | masus: check if it's available at backport.org |
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| 17:14.21 | cahoot | irc_, run aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav again |
| 17:14.23 | masus | ok i'll do |
| 17:14.26 | benjamindees | cydork, Pres-Gas driver compiled and installed okay; haven't used it yet; don't have the model with me right now |
| 17:14.33 | Pres-Gas | cydork, and benjamindees, I found a link |
| 17:14.37 | Pres-Gas | http://www.trendnet.com/support/linux.htm |
| 17:14.40 | irc_ | cahoot: i tried, but i dont know why this is not working |
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| 17:15.14 | masus | cydork: is the adress right backport.org ??? |
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| 17:15.27 | cydork | masus: sorry it's backports.org |
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| 17:15.45 | masus | sorry |
| 17:15.52 | masus | i have misstyped |
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| 17:16.18 | benjamindees | I'm pretty sure this was it: http://www.compusa.com/products/products.asp?N=0&Ntk=product_code&Ntt=344135,344132,344145&Ntx=mode%20matchany&cmid=dsr&ref=dsr |
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| 17:16.43 | dashs | How can I regress elements that were upgraded by my last automated upgrade? |
| 17:16.44 | yos87 | Hi |
| 17:16.50 | AKX | Hmm |
| 17:16.56 | irc_ | <cahoot> media player is playing the sound files but output device not working why? |
| 17:16.58 | yos87 | I have question, what is the best debian packages for making website? |
| 17:17.09 | masus | cydork: only the 1.2.* version is avalaible there |
| 17:17.09 | Ronin | yos87: nano |
| 17:17.12 | vlt | Hello. How can I reload my permissions (I've just been added to a group ) w/o logging out/in again? |
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| 17:17.33 | yos87 | Ronin: ? |
| 17:17.35 | cydork | masus: hmm then check if it's available in sid and check /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 17:18.05 | cahoot | irc_, that's what we are trying to figure out - it seems we are a bit out of sync wrt questions and answers though |
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| 17:19.51 | irc_ | <cahoot> ya i am following u, i think u r not getting my problem |
| 17:19.52 | cahoot | irc_, aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav still results in silence? |
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| 17:20.11 | irc_ | cahoot: ya |
| 17:20.17 | cahoot | irc_, cat /proc/asound/cards - only one card listed? |
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| 17:21.13 | irc_ | <cahoot> two |
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| 17:22.12 | irc_ | <cahoot> 0 [EMU1212m & 1 [ICH5 |
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| 17:23.31 | masus | cydork:nothing ... is it not possible to compile on debian :) |
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| 17:23.44 | h3sp4wn | irc_: Have you got the firmware (if you are trying to use the 1212m) |
| 17:24.30 | irc_ | h3sp4wn: no |
| 17:24.48 | h3sp4wn | irc_: Did you read the alsa page about that card ? |
| 17:24.55 | h3sp4wn | (are you trying to use etch ?) |
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| 17:25.22 | cydork | masus: yes it is possible compile but most of the times there is no need to. |
| 17:25.23 | irc_ | h3sp4wn: Audigy2 - E-mu 1212m [4001] |
| 17:25.23 | irc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.26 | rahul | !penixstrike xchat |
| 17:25.26 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking xchat to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 17:25.34 | rahul | who wanted what from me? |
| 17:25.43 | irc_ | h3sp4wn: and Audigy2 - E-mu 1212m [4001] |
| 17:25.44 | irc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.02 | irc_ | h3sp4wn: ICH4 - Intel ICH5 |
| 17:26.02 | irc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.55 | dashs | How do I list back versions of iceweael available online? |
| 17:26.58 | irc_ | h3sp4wn: i am not trying etch |
| 17:27.34 | h3sp4wn | irc_: well what are you doing - I cannot be bothered with 10000 questions |
| 17:27.55 | rahul | !logs |
| 17:27.55 | dpkg | logs are what you should always check when you have a problem. They live in /var/log/ |
| 17:27.58 | hark | dashs: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 17:27.58 | rahul | : |
| 17:28.03 | rahul | :\ :\ |
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| 17:28.51 | irc_ | <h3sp4wn>: well, i am try to listen the soundfiles |
| 17:28.54 | XtypeWriter74 | does anybody know a tutorial for html that i can use offline ? |
| 17:29.05 | h3sp4wn | irc_: using which card |
| 17:29.21 | barz| | hi. what's the most common way to get software installed in debian (from debian packages)? is it from source code or from binary files? |
| 17:29.54 | Ronin | barz|: .deb files actually as in aptitude install foo |
| 17:30.08 | ustunozgur | barz|: binary. |
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| 17:30.53 | pettern | is there any public mailing list for lenny? |
| 17:31.03 | irc_ | <h3sp4wn>: its inbuilt |
| 17:31.05 | XtypeWriter74 | or is there a tool to DL an entire Website |
| 17:31.26 | h3sp4wn | irc_: the emu1212m is a pci card |
| 17:31.41 | pettern | XtypeWriter74, there is lots of tools for that |
| 17:31.44 | h3sp4wn | irc_: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=E-MU+1212m.&chip=CA0102%2C+FPGA&module=emu10k1-fpga |
| 17:31.48 | irc_ | <h3sp4wn>: yea |
| 17:32.03 | XtypeWriter74 | i found one called httrack |
| 17:32.47 | XtypeWriter74 | any suggestions <pettern> |
| 17:32.55 | benjamindees | XtypeWriter74, wget |
| 17:32.59 | XtypeWriter74 | :D |
| 17:33.23 | XtypeWriter74 | good idea! i'll man wget |
| 17:33.24 | h3sp4wn | irc_: what version of alsa do you have "cat /proc/asound/version" |
| 17:33.45 | stoned | ahhh boy |
| 17:33.47 | stoned | rahul: sup |
| 17:34.07 | stoned | feels so good to be back at work |
| 17:34.09 | irc_ | <h3sp4wn>: 1.0.14rc1 |
| 17:34.11 | rahul | heh |
| 17:34.12 | stoned | not sick anymore |
| 17:34.16 | rahul | cool |
| 17:34.22 | rahul | I'm in baaaaahstan |
| 17:34.30 | stoned | i been playing oblivion all day |
| 17:34.34 | stoned | where? |
| 17:34.38 | stoned | when you goin to india? |
| 17:34.41 | rahul | baaaaahstan |
| 17:34.44 | rahul | next week |
| 17:34.50 | stoned | ahh |
| 17:34.57 | pettern | XtypeWriter74, i use opera when i need all files that one site links to. does that help? |
| 17:35.01 | ustunozgur | irc_: are you trying to change the default sound card? |
| 17:35.02 | pickcoder | I finished that game in 2 days |
| 17:35.05 | pickcoder | too easy |
| 17:35.06 | rahul | saturday, there's a metal show |
| 17:35.06 | h3sp4wn | irc_: You need 1.0.14rc4 for that card |
| 17:35.13 | stoned | rahul: who? |
| 17:35.19 | h3sp4wn | irc_: (or later) - and the correct firmware |
| 17:35.26 | irc_ | <h3sp4wn>: ok |
| 17:35.27 | rahul | stoned: the ones I know are grande and supervillain |
| 17:35.30 | pettern | and you could use wget or massdownloader for firefox |
| 17:35.33 | stoned | eh |
| 17:35.45 | stoned | I only liked one person |
| 17:35.48 | stoned | besides you |
| 17:35.50 | h3sp4wn | irc_: Do you know how to use module-assistant ? |
| 17:35.53 | rahul | hmm? |
| 17:35.55 | stoned | but she is gone from me |
| 17:35.56 | stoned | :) |
| 17:36.01 | rahul | you've never seen this crowd |
| 17:36.08 | rahul | haha, she's not even part of the music crowd |
| 17:36.14 | irc_ | <h3sp4wn>: no |
| 17:36.16 | stoned | i know |
| 17:36.25 | stoned | but she made an impression |
| 17:36.38 | rahul | supervillain is pretty good. kinda audioslave-like |
| 17:36.41 | stew | rahul: stoned: -> #debian-offtopic |
| 17:36.44 | XtypeWriter74 | never used it... |
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| 17:36.56 | rahul | yeah, ok |
| 17:36.59 | stoned | rahul: yeh man cut it out |
| 17:37.02 | irc_ | <h3sp4wn>: i will find |
| 17:37.07 | stoned | hehe |
| 17:37.16 | rahul | I cut you mayn! |
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| 17:37.41 | stoned | umm |
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| 17:37.46 | stoned | you better cut it out |
| 17:37.48 | h3sp4wn | irc_: I need to eat but for you card you need alsa-source 1.0.14-rc4+ (just use 1.0.14 final) and to build those drivers with m-a (get alsa-source from unstable) think about the firmware afterwards I guess but it can work |
| 17:37.53 | stoned | or else stew gonna cut both of us |
| 17:37.58 | rahul | pickcoder: probably is |
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| 17:38.31 | irc_ | <h3sp4wn>: ok |
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| 17:38.40 | rahul | pickcoder: but debian definitely is on topic in #botsex |
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| 17:39.31 | S4nD3r | How to print a PDF file using a browser iceweasel |
| 17:39.35 | rahul | !m-a |
| 17:39.35 | dpkg | from memory, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or aptitude install module-assistant build-essential && m-a prepare |
| 17:39.42 | pickcoder | !xpdf |
| 17:39.42 | dpkg | hmm... xpdf is aPortable Document Format viewer for X11 |
| 17:39.49 | julio123 | hello l have another question when l try to install any program it says that l will remove "linux-kernel-header","tzdata" and "util-linux"? |
| 17:39.51 | rahul | S4nD3r: you don't. you just pass it to lpr |
| 17:39.54 | cast | hi, what pkg do i install to clean the orange i just dropped on the floor? |
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| 17:41.47 | dvs01 | wrong reality, cast |
| 17:41.51 | S4nD3r | I dont have this option |
| 17:42.49 | sneex | anyone have a favorite DNS manager? one that involved managing 1,000s of zone files? =) |
| 17:42.54 | S4nD3r | I just have a CUPS printer |
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| 17:42.58 | S4nD3r | neither other |
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| 17:44.20 | S4nD3r | how solve it? |
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| 17:44.54 | bliss | hi |
| 17:45.33 | bliss | I am trying to listen to a audio cd but they are .wav files do they need to be converted? |
| 17:45.45 | xand | audio CDs dont contain wav files |
| 17:45.59 | xand | they're raw tracks |
| 17:46.06 | c`alin | Hah, sounds like someone burnt it wrong... |
| 17:46.09 | xingu | sneex: files? this is 1998 calling, and they want their technology back |
| 17:46.14 | S4nD3r | What I need to install to create postcript files from browser? |
| 17:46.58 | xand | S4nD3r: just print to file? |
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| 17:47.04 | S4nD3r | yeah |
| 17:47.16 | xand | you shouldnt need to install anything. |
| 17:47.42 | sneex | xingu, 1998 is here still lol what hapened to the future? |
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| 17:48.05 | bliss | xand: thanks but they are type: WAV audio files |
| 17:48.07 | stoned | abortman |
| 17:48.10 | stoned | rahul |
| 17:48.24 | stoned | argh |
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| 17:49.19 | rahul | heh |
| 17:49.21 | rahul | freak |
| 17:49.54 | stoned | intelligence level has nothing to do with being able to absorb what you can read |
| 17:50.11 | stoned | comprehension is related to intellect? i don't know |
| 17:50.16 | rahul | sure it is |
| 17:50.22 | Spec | and common sense is completely different. |
| 17:50.29 | rahul | being able to repeat is not based on intellect, tho |
| 17:50.30 | stoned | oh |
| 17:50.31 | stoned | yeh |
| 17:50.35 | stoned | basically |
| 17:50.37 | tetonca | Linux doesn't cost $$ to install, hence a wide appeal. |
| 17:50.55 | xingu | sneex: http://downloads.powerdns.com/documentation/html/generic-mypgsql-backends.html ... there's variations on the theme for most modern resolvers |
| 17:51.23 | stoned | intelligent people don't neccesserily have to have common sense |
| 17:51.24 | stoned | :D |
| 17:51.26 | sneex | great |
| 17:51.27 | pickcoder | c`alin: the installers are getting easier to use |
| 17:51.39 | stoned | actually i like th edebian installer |
| 17:51.40 | cast | c`alin: ubuntu, redhat, to answer your question! |
| 17:51.43 | gonzaloaf_work | hi, how can I find out my public ip from console if I'm behind a NAT? |
| 17:51.48 | c`alin | hah, redhat |
| 17:51.51 | stoned | i don't care much for the gui installer |
| 17:51.53 | xingu | sneex: once the zone data is in a database of some description, maintenance boils down to a trivial web form app |
| 17:51.57 | tetonca | Einstein said common sense was nothing more than the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18. |
| 17:51.59 | stoned | but the text debian installer is great |
| 17:52.02 | cast | the deb gui installer crashes for me :\ |
| 17:52.03 | xingu | sneex: ... so most folk write one. |
| 17:52.04 | c`alin | stoned: i love the debian installer |
| 17:52.12 | stoned | i think we all do |
| 17:52.13 | stoned | :) |
| 17:52.16 | sneex | i have been writing one and I dont want to lol |
| 17:52.21 | rahul | tetonca: quite true |
| 17:52.24 | sneex | bbl thanks again |
| 17:52.30 | rahul | by common sense Einstein was wrong about relativity |
| 17:52.32 | xingu | sneex: good luck in your search then. :) |
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| 17:53.01 | behanw | gonzaloaf_work: http://whatsmyip.org/ |
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| 17:53.21 | gonzaloaf_work | behanw, I said from console |
| 17:53.37 | behanw | lynx http://whatsmyip.org/ |
| 17:54.33 | c`alin | gonzaloaf_work: <lynx|wget> http://whatismyip.org/ |
| 17:54.35 | behanw | Alternatively I suppose you could use the stun client and an external stun server... |
| 17:55.00 | tetonca | There used to be one at something like anxiety-closet.mit.edu to check yourself from the public side. Ran finger and one other routine. |
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| 17:58.09 | gonzaloaf_work | Is it possible to download a file using amule from console? I mean start a download from console? |
| 17:59.21 | tobehz | I was trying to dist-upgrade and now my apt is deadlocked, more or less. I can't install anything because it wants to install libc6 but libc6 needs a 2.6 kernel. When I go to install the 2.6 kernel image, it needs stuff that relies on the new libc6 library. 'apt-get -f install' fixes nothing either. What gives? |
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| 18:00.57 | TrueDD | Salut à tous |
| 18:01.07 | TrueDD | hi all |
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| 18:02.27 | imank | hi |
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| 18:03.08 | tetonca | Here it is: [ http://stuff.mit.edu/machine?www.debian.org ] .. domain now 'stuff.mit.edu' but same program. |
| 18:03.19 | pickcoder | tobehz: past the dist-upgrade scroll in a pastebin |
| 18:03.24 | sartek | hi, i have 2 network cards, after etch fresh install it shows up like "eth0" and "eth1_renasomething" how can i solve this? |
| 18:03.25 | tetonca | (but you had to know the domain or IP address to use itt) |
| 18:03.26 | pickcoder | paste even |
| 18:03.52 | pickcoder | tobehz: are going from sarge to etch? |
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| 18:03.54 | tobehz | i had my sources set to 'testing' - i just changed them to etch, and i'm dist-upgrading successfully atm. going to let that go through, then try and switch back to testing |
| 18:03.58 | bliss | hi |
| 18:04.24 | cahoot | sartek, take a look at /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 18:04.28 | pickcoder | tobehz: etch is not testing |
| 18:04.30 | bliss | does anyone know the names of some cd/dvd burners for kde etch |
| 18:04.50 | Supaplex | !tell tobehz -about downgrade |
| 18:04.50 | tobehz | pickcoder: i'm aware |
| 18:05.10 | tobehz | err, testing is downgrading from etch? |
| 18:05.10 | minerale | I'm having trouble with `man dd` can someone quickly show me how I can delete the first 1024 bytes of a hard drive with stuff from /dev/random ? I really need to destroy the boot plust part of the partition on this drive in a few seconds |
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| 18:05.50 | sartek | cahoot: http://rafb.net/p/i0h9Zu13.html |
| 18:05.55 | pickcoder | tobehz: if you're skipping a release to go to testing, then you may have dist-upgrade issues |
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| 18:06.04 | pickcoder | sarge->lenny is not a good idea, for example |
| 18:06.29 | tobehz | ok, im dist-upgrading to etch. i want to get on the latest testing stuff. how should i proceed after etch? |
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| 18:06.50 | minerale | ok, I have an IT guy coming to my cubicle, I need to nuke the debian installation on it somehow within a few seconds or I'll get in trouble for installing non approved software |
| 18:06.57 | cahoot | sartek, two identical nics? |
| 18:07.08 | sartek | cahoot: yes |
| 18:07.37 | pickcoder | tobehz: I normally update to the latest kernel and libs for each release |
| 18:07.42 | pickcoder | then I try a dist-upgrade |
| 18:07.54 | sartek | cahoot: lspci http://rafb.net/p/lja9Cq55.html |
| 18:07.59 | cahoot | sartek, the rules file looks sound to me - no idea what renames eth1 for you |
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| 18:08.01 | pickcoder | run it with the simulation switch before you commit to it |
| 18:08.09 | pickcoder | that way you can verify nothing will break |
| 18:08.25 | tobehz | pickcoder: this isn't a production box - i use it to play with debian, so if something breaks it's not a big deal |
| 18:08.39 | tobehz | pickcoder: i'm just looking for the quickest/easiest way to get from etch to testing |
| 18:08.44 | pickcoder | tobehz: if you muck up things with a forced install, you may have a big mess |
| 18:09.01 | tobehz | assuming they are different, since i have no idea anymore what the codenames are |
| 18:09.09 | Supaplex | tobehz: topic |
| 18:09.09 | pickcoder | lenny is testing |
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| 18:09.24 | tobehz | ahh, i see |
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| 18:09.39 | pickcoder | you are more likely to have a successful dist-upgrade to testing if your current stable has the most recent core |
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| 18:09.53 | pickcoder | sarge was a nightmare since it had a 2.4 and a 2.6 kernel set |
| 18:10.13 | sartek | cahoot: thx anyway |
| 18:10.44 | tetonca | minerale: 'dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hd<letter> bs=<power of 2> count=<any>'. |
| 18:11.37 | jetscreamer | bs & count are optional eh |
| 18:11.53 | Supaplex | w/o count it'll run forever |
| 18:11.53 | tetonca | Someone said that /dev/urandom is less random than /dev/random recently. |
| 18:12.02 | Supaplex | tetonca: also true |
| 18:12.04 | jetscreamer | urandom and random will take forever |
| 18:12.12 | jetscreamer | just dd if=zeor |
| 18:12.17 | jetscreamer | err zero |
| 18:12.26 | jetscreamer | you're not trying to hide from forensics |
| 18:12.52 | h3sp4wn | What you should do is just hide the debian partition and get rid of grub |
| 18:12.57 | tetonca | Are there any 'devs' besides urandom, random, and zero that would work here? |
| 18:12.58 | cast | /dev/frandom is better than /dev/zero [RC4 keystream |
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| 18:13.09 | Ezep | !cs4232 |
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| 18:13.16 | aitiba | !rt2500 |
| 18:13.18 | Supaplex | tac /dev/hda > /dev/hda ;) |
| 18:13.21 | jeld | hi all |
| 18:13.27 | Ezep | @cs4232 |
| 18:13.35 | cast | /dev/dsp? :) |
| 18:13.36 | jetscreamer | try /msg dpkg |
| 18:13.43 | tetonca | cast: heh. |
| 18:13.45 | Ezep | dpkg tell ezep about cs4232 |
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| 18:14.05 | jeld | apt-get updates crashes with this error |
| 18:14.05 | palestinian | !rt2500 |
| 18:14.09 | jeld | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 18:14.10 | jeld | E: Error occurred while processing ncurses-bin (NewVersion1) |
| 18:14.10 | jeld | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 18:14.10 | jeld | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
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| 18:14.11 | Supaplex | cast: tcpdump -w /dev/dsp is the sound of the network. :P |
| 18:14.21 | palestinian | no info about rt2500? |
| 18:14.32 | Ezep | palestinian: dpkg tell ezep about cs4232 |
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| 18:14.34 | jetscreamer | !tell jeld -about dynamic mmap |
| 18:14.36 | jeld | crap |
| 18:14.38 | Supaplex | !+listvals rt2500 |
| 18:14.39 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'rt2500' by value (1): ralink. |
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| 18:14.41 | Supaplex | !dump on jeld |
| 18:14.52 | jeld | my apt-get updatecrashes with MMap errors |
| 18:14.57 | jeld | how can I fix that? |
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| 18:15.02 | jetscreamer | jeld check your msg's? |
| 18:15.07 | Supaplex | jeld: /query dpkg |
| 18:15.09 | jeld | is there some sort of "package database rebuild" in dpkg? |
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| 18:15.20 | jetscreamer | i just told the bot to msg you with the answer jeld |
| 18:15.24 | jetscreamer | irssi? |
| 18:15.27 | jetscreamer | /window next |
| 18:15.30 | SimAtWork | some packages are selected for install |
| 18:15.33 | SimAtWork | but i don't want to install them |
| 18:15.42 | SimAtWork | how do I clear the packages selected for install? |
| 18:15.48 | tetonca | SimAtWork: the = keybinding in dselect works there. |
| 18:15.59 | pickcoder | jeld: "out of room"? |
| 18:16.00 | h3sp4wn | SimAtWork: In ? aptitude or apt-get or dselect ? |
| 18:16.05 | jeld | Supaplex: cool, thanx |
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| 18:16.09 | jetscreamer | jeld did you find the msg ah ok |
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| 18:16.14 | jetscreamer | no don't htank me |
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| 18:16.27 | kjk137 | which modules do I need in kernel 2.6.21 for nat to work? |
| 18:16.31 | jetscreamer | i did nothing except answer your question 1 second after you rejoined |
| 18:16.32 | kjk137 | on sarge |
| 18:16.38 | kjk137 | with iptables |
| 18:16.43 | h3sp4wn | jeld: dpkg --clear-avail && aptitude update |
| 18:16.59 | pickcoder | kjk137: erm.. is there a major reason why you're using 2.6.21 on sarge? |
| 18:17.02 | tetonca | h3sp4wn: nice switch. tnx. |
| 18:17.17 | kjk137 | pickcoder: yes |
| 18:17.27 | pickcoder | because it won't be supported forever |
| 18:17.33 | jetscreamer | the reinstall factoid compliments it tetonca |
| 18:17.44 | jeld | h3sp4wn: aptitude :( yikes! |
| 18:17.46 | SimAtWork | i'm just using apt-get |
| 18:18.10 | pickcoder | kjk137: did you compile it from kernel.org? |
| 18:18.15 | tetonca | I usually fight with dselect for a half an hour by iterating = an Q ;) |
| 18:18.22 | jeld | ah! worked at 24MB cache |
| 18:18.24 | kjk137 | yes...with make-kpkg |
| 18:18.27 | jeld | thank you everyone |
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| 18:18.47 | pickcoder | kjk137: I'm not exactly sure. You may want to ask #iptables or #kernel |
| 18:19.09 | jetscreamer | tetonca: i've done that also... = or hold does help |
| 18:19.09 | kjk137 | pickcoder: glad I could be of help. :-) |
| 18:19.21 | kjk137 | I mean, thanks |
| 18:19.24 | pickcoder | kjk137: your .config should apply to 2.6.21 |
| 18:19.35 | pickcoder | did you make oldconfig? |
| 18:20.00 | kjk137 | pickcoder: yeah, but there is a change in netfilter, some module mentions backwards compatibility |
| 18:20.16 | kjk137 | pickcoder: make-kpkg does that, yes |
| 18:20.17 | h3sp4wn | SimAtWork: If you was using aptitude you could just select - Actions -> Cancel pending actions (apt-get is horrible in this case - either dselect or aptitude is much easier) |
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| 18:21.13 | tetonca | I also like to edit /etc/apt.conf with two versions; one of which only downloads the .deb files; the other actually installs themm. |
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| 18:21.45 | tetonca | That way I can go to bed during a download on dial-upt and not have all hell break loose overnight. |
| 18:22.14 | xingu | tetonca: err, apt-get -d ? |
| 18:22.32 | tetonca | xingu: maybe. I do it in apt.conf. |
| 18:22.45 | tetonca | (and drive it with dselect) |
| 18:22.46 | h3sp4wn | tetonca: You can use cron-apt |
| 18:22.50 | xingu | there's no maybe about it, it does what it says on the tin |
| 18:22.53 | symbol | back from lunch |
| 18:23.16 | tetonca | xingu: that's not what I mean. |
| 18:23.44 | Supaplex | symbol: it that like burping up lunch? it's just a new flavor the second time? |
| 18:23.54 | symbol | kinda |
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| 18:29.15 | SoulChild | Hey i have gnoem running, but the splash only disappears after i clicked on it, any ideas ? |
| 18:29.31 | antgel | !btssmite SoulChild |
| 18:29.41 | antgel | hmm, was that harsh? |
| 18:29.47 | SoulChild | antgel: ??? |
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| 18:30.14 | jetscreamer | turn the splash off or change it maybe... i had that bug once, but it like went away on it's own |
| 18:30.25 | SoulChild | jetscreamer: okay |
| 18:30.45 | Supaplex | I've never seen gnoem |
| 18:30.51 | Supaplex | I've seen gnome though |
| 18:30.56 | jetscreamer | it's a derivative of gnome |
| 18:30.57 | Supaplex | are they related? ;) |
| 18:31.00 | jetscreamer | very leet |
| 18:31.03 | Supaplex | it's a mutation! |
| 18:31.04 | jetscreamer | not 1337, leet |
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| 18:31.36 | SoulChild | i changed the splash, it is still not disappearing ,.. |
| 18:31.46 | SoulChild | i go and ask in ubuntu, they surely know about this :D |
| 18:32.50 | rahul | the attack of the mutant gnoems? |
| 18:32.58 | pickcoder | golems? |
| 18:33.16 | jetscreamer | i had a game called g-nome once... a mechwarrior clone |
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| 18:33.30 | jetscreamer | genomes |
| 18:33.30 | rahul | with really short mechs? |
| 18:33.33 | cast | i hope this is going somewhere |
| 18:33.45 | jetscreamer | yes... i'm going somewhere... to work :( |
| 18:33.49 | rahul | heh |
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| 18:59.25 | julio123 | hello l cant install any program because when l try to install anything it says that l will remove "linux-kernel-header" and l am afraid to do it?:) |
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| 19:01.53 | eth01` | where can i edit dns? |
| 19:02.01 | rahul | !penixstrike IBM's TPF router |
| 19:02.01 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking IBM's TPF router to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 19:02.17 | rahul | eth01`: which dns? |
| 19:02.24 | rahul | whose? who is serving it? |
| 19:02.34 | semprix | eth01`, you mean resolv.conf? |
| 19:02.35 | eth01` | dns adddress. for eth0. |
| 19:02.35 | h3sp4wn | julio123: using aptitude ? |
| 19:02.39 | eth01` | ah, thanks. |
| 19:02.46 | rahul | eth0 has nothing to do with dns |
| 19:02.50 | Pres-Gas | julio123, the headers are for development only or for compiling against. It should not hurt removing it unless you have compiled a kernel module from source. |
| 19:02.53 | semprix | --> /etc/resolv.conf |
| 19:03.08 | semprix | nameservers |
| 19:03.16 | rahul | unless you're talking about the reverse zone |
| 19:03.22 | julio123 | h3sp4wn: l am using apt-get |
| 19:03.37 | robboplus | is it possible to undelete a mysql db that i dropped by mistake? |
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| 19:04.02 | semprix | robboplus, #mysql |
| 19:04.10 | julio123 | mmmmm ok l will go for it :) |
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| 19:04.58 | Pio | i just screwed up the config files for a package, and i'd like to have apt restore the original configuration files provided with the package.. whats the proper way to do this? |
| 19:05.22 | h3sp4wn | !tell Pio about confmiss |
| 19:05.36 | Pio | beautiful thanks |
| 19:05.38 | stew | he wants confnew not confmiss |
| 19:06.20 | Pio | apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> worked like a charm |
| 19:06.38 | stew | Pio: that would only replace missing conffiles not altered ones |
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| 19:06.58 | Pio | yeah.. well i actually did delete them.. i didnt say that orignally, heh |
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| 19:09.24 | h3sp4wn | stew: I normally use - DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confnew (is that a waste of time ? i.e would just confnew do the same thing) |
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| 19:09.46 | stew | h3sp4wn: i *think* confnew is enough |
| 19:10.59 | dw | hey there. is there a straightforward method to install an amd64 cross compiling gcc on debian 32bit? i can't seem to find a package |
| 19:11.15 | dw | my eventual aim is a 64bit kernel and 32bit userspace |
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| 19:12.45 | zinx | dw: no |
| 19:13.04 | zinx | dw: but the amd64 gcc can compile ia32 binaries |
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| 19:13.25 | dw | hmmf. i've found embdebian which promises to build the toolchain for me |
| 19:13.31 | dw | *emdebian |
| 19:13.43 | h3sp4wn | dw: I have used these cross compilers before and they are quite decent - http://debian.speedblue.org |
| 19:14.00 | h3sp4wn | dw: emdebian has an apt repository |
| 19:14.28 | dw | h3sp4wn: aha. :) this looks much simpler |
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| 19:19.57 | julio123 | hey guys everything is fine |
| 19:20.01 | julio123 | thanks |
| 19:20.05 | julio123 | is all working |
| 19:20.53 | CrippsFX | where would I find the log for ktorrent? I use ktorrent for all my torrent needs, but it keeps crashing for some reason, and I'm never around when it does. I'm running sarge with an x86_64 kernel |
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| 19:22.36 | CrippsFX | sorry, not sarge, I'm running etch. |
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| 19:26.22 | pickcoder | CrippsFX: ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent |
| 19:26.33 | CrippsFX | pickcoder, thanks. |
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| 19:28.39 | dragon | how do you force ssh to disconnect? |
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| 19:29.24 | asg | dragon: ~. |
| 19:29.32 | dragon | ~? |
| 19:29.33 | stew | dragon: from withing the ssh session? or from the client? or the server? |
| 19:29.44 | logd | hi is it possible to limit the maximum cpu time an app can take??? |
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| 19:30.02 | rahul | dragon: no, ~. |
| 19:30.11 | dragon | stew: the client... |
| 19:30.20 | rahul | or maybe ~. is clearer. |
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| 19:30.39 | rahul | actually, why don't I say that it's "~.". :) |
| 19:30.40 | dragon | ~. what just type ~.? |
| 19:30.44 | rahul | yes |
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| 19:30.57 | asg | dragon: you may need to hit 'ENTER' first if you have already typed something |
| 19:30.59 | CrippsFX | hm ... I don't see anything in there indicating a crash :/ |
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| 19:31.03 | samael | hi |
| 19:31.11 | pickcoder | logd: nice controls scheduling |
| 19:31.19 | dragon | that's kinda odd |
| 19:31.23 | pickcoder | er.. that's not accurate |
| 19:31.34 | pickcoder | you can use nice to change the scheduling level for an app |
| 19:31.40 | dragon | thanks |
| 19:31.50 | asg | dragon: it's fully documented in the manpage under ESCAPE CHARACTERS |
| 19:32.09 | CrippsFX | to exit an ssh session I always use ^D |
| 19:32.45 | asg | CrippsFX: there are times when that doesn't work. ~. is the ssh vulcan nerve pinch |
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| 19:33.05 | CrippsFX | asg, duly noted. I shall try to remember this tidbit then :) |
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| 19:33.57 | CrippsFX | so, since my ktorrent crashed don't seem to be logged in ~/.kde/shar/apps/ktorrent/log , is there any other place where the crash might be logged? |
| 19:34.20 | samael | I'm into some cross-compiling on a sarge box. dpkg-buildpackage says it needs binutils-mipsel-linux, but it doesn't even exist. any hint on how to deal with that? |
| 19:35.04 | CrippsFX | *crashes |
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| 19:35.50 | nnacht | Hey, how can I compile the "nat"-module for kernel 2.6.22? I can't find it in the menuconfig, and per default it is not compiled |
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| 19:36.21 | CrippsFX | nnacht, you could edit the .config |
| 19:37.11 | h3sp4wn | nnacht: was you using a .config file from an older kernel ? |
| 19:37.29 | nnacht | no, I'm not using a old .config |
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| 19:37.58 | nnacht | I mean in the earlier version, the modules for full nat is per default compiled |
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| 19:38.09 | Snover | Hey, does anyone know, if you stop an md array during a reshape, does it pick up where it left off? |
| 19:38.19 | nnacht | or I can find it in the menuconfig, what's wrong with the new version of the kernel? |
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| 19:39.01 | h3sp4wn | nnacht: CONFIG_NF_NAT |
| 19:39.33 | h3sp4wn | nnacht: CONFIG_NETFILTER_XTABLES (definately need those 2) |
| 19:39.33 | CrippsFX | nnacht, chances are *nothing* is wrong with the kernel. They either moved the option to a more suitable place, deprecated it, or replaced it with a better solution ... another possibility is that it's *enabled* and you don't have a choice in the matter. |
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| 19:40.16 | dragon | anyone know of an editor that will do php syntax highlighting and have a file browser with it and also has ftp support? |
| 19:40.35 | CrippsFX | dragon, gvim? |
| 19:40.40 | nnacht | Thanks you guys. How can I only compile the NAT-module? |
| 19:40.42 | asg | dragon: emacs |
| 19:40.44 | CrippsFX | dragon, failing that, kate is *nice* |
| 19:41.04 | Dunedan | dragon: quanta |
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| 19:41.18 | stew | asg: is there a decent php mode now? i've never seen one |
| 19:41.26 | stew | !tell Gargantua about root |
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| 19:41.35 | asg | stew: dunno but emacs has everything else ;) |
| 19:41.38 | CrippsFX | emacs = Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping |
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| 19:41.42 | CrippsFX | ;) |
| 19:41.45 | rahul | oh noez |
| 19:41.46 | asg | stew: I've only ever used vi/vim |
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| 19:41.56 | rahul | CrippsFX: that means it's smaller than vim ;) |
| 19:42.04 | CrippsFX | rahul, oh, snap! |
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| 19:42.08 | CrippsFX | :) |
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| 19:42.29 | kenji | is microsoft our enemy? |
| 19:42.46 | rahul | kenji: no. people who have enemies are our enemies. |
| 19:43.00 | CrippsFX | when I was in my second year of comp sci, the lab instructors thought I was crazy because I used vim and compiled my source from the command line :P |
| 19:43.13 | h3sp4wn | nnacht: Its not really a good idea but you can use - make -C /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build M=$(PWD) modules (sometimes) |
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| 19:43.58 | asg | kenji: no, we just don't find their products to be worthwhile in most cases. |
| 19:44.02 | nnacht | h3sp4wn: thanks, I will try it out. |
| 19:44.10 | rking | this is just a general question, but a lot of you guys have general knowledge, so here goes: is there a search engine that doesn't ignore punctuation the way google does? e.g., my latex invocation says, "%&-line parsing enabled", and i'd like to search for the meaning, but google treats "%&-line" as if it were "& line" |
| 19:44.26 | CrippsFX | for me, microsoft is not my enemy ... proprietary licenses are. |
| 19:44.43 | Braindead | rking: just use quotes "" |
| 19:44.45 | CrippsFX | unfortunately, microsoft employs those. |
| 19:44.51 | palestinian | someone can tell me what he thinks about this applied to debian? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto |
| 19:44.55 | badcel | hi, i installed debian via floppy and configured a raid5 using 3 harddisks. If i call /proc/mdstat only 2 disks are active, the 3rd disk is removed, what can i do to fix this problem? |
| 19:45.04 | rking | Braindead: that's what i'm saying: ["%&-line"] == ["& line"] |
| 19:45.14 | rking | Braindead: both of those give the same results in google |
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| 19:46.11 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: I wouldn't do that just take alsa-source (the .deb) from sid and build it with module-assistant |
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| 19:46.34 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, but I have stable,it will not affect this? |
| 19:47.05 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: No all that package is contains is what is the source that that ubuntu thing says deal with manually |
| 19:48.00 | rking | in this case, i'm sure i can find an all-in-one-page latex documentation file and search within the browser, but it'd be nice to have a solution when i can't do that... surely some search engine out there could use what i put in literally |
| 19:48.29 | badcel | mdadm states that: http://pastebin.com/m7851bd68 |
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| 19:49.14 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.14-1_all.deb (install it with dpkg -i) {apt-get,aptitude} install module-assistant; m-a a-i alsa |
| 19:49.53 | badcel | With mdstat: http://pastebin.com/m6a67674d |
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| 19:51.45 | kenji | guys I have a new cron file, how can I remove the other and setup the newer? |
| 19:52.26 | xand | cronfile where? |
| 19:53.02 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, thank u very much |
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| 19:54.19 | bonez39 | do I need anything more than 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' in my /etc/resolv.conf file? |
| 19:54.25 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: If you get a kernel update then you need to rerun the m-a command |
| 19:54.28 | Kleber_ | hello folks is there anybody how can help me about clamav + postfix warning message ? |
| 19:54.36 | antgel | bonez39: man resolv.conf |
| 19:54.44 | abrotman | ANTGEL: IT IS CAPS DAY! |
| 19:54.49 | antgel | !tell Kleber_ about ask |
| 19:54.58 | antgel | ABROTMAN: THANK YOU! |
| 19:55.01 | abrotman | hehe |
| 19:55.18 | kenji | guys I have a new cron file, how can I remove the other and setup the newer? |
| 19:55.31 | Kleber_ | Aug 1 16:54:21 colossus2 postfix/qmgr[12627]: warning: connect to transport clamav: Connection refused. Any tip about this error on /var/log/mail.log |
| 19:55.34 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, http://pastebin.com/m16513b90 |
| 19:55.42 | bonez39 | antgel: have read it through and through, but will, at your suggestion, go and reread it again |
| 19:56.12 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: that was not word for word what to type |
| 19:56.16 | antgel | bonez39: maybe you need to take a step back and do some reading on what a DNS server actually is, that might help |
| 19:56.25 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, sorry |
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| 19:56.37 | antgel | bonez39: i suppose the man page is just a guide to the syntax of the file :) |
| 19:56.49 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, so what should I type? |
| 19:56.49 | pickcoder | Kleber_: install the clamav daemon |
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| 19:56.51 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.14-1_all.deb; apt-get install module-assistant; m-a prepare; m-a a-i alsa (that needs to be as root) |
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| 19:57.00 | lightning | what is the email notification package called? |
| 19:57.08 | pickcoder | then make sure that postfix isn't chrooted by looking at master.cf in /etc/postfix/ |
| 19:57.47 | pickcoder | if it is, you will need to relocate the socket to /var/spool/postfix/<somewhere> |
| 19:57.55 | pickcoder | so that postfix can get to it |
| 19:58.06 | antgel | i thought postfix was meant to be easy to use :P |
| 19:58.13 | abrotman | postfix is defaulted to chroot on etch |
| 19:58.19 | pickcoder | it shouldn't be |
| 19:58.23 | abrotman | it is |
| 19:58.30 | pickcoder | I know it is |
| 19:58.33 | pickcoder | but it's pointless |
| 19:58.37 | pickcoder | and it's a PITA |
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| 19:59.22 | pickcoder | Kleber_: you can always disable chroot for the services that master runs, but you may have move stuff around |
| 19:59.35 | pickcoder | it's easier to move one socket |
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| 19:59.55 | Darkclaw55 | is it possible to salvage a partition on a hard drive? |
| 20:00.20 | Kleber_ | pickcode: I have installed clamav daemon |
| 20:00.32 | antgel | Darkclaw55: depends |
| 20:00.39 | Kleber_ | pickcoder: I don't know how to solve this problem... |
| 20:00.57 | Darkclaw55 | its a raid and I accidently selected to override it but I quickly turned it off |
| 20:01.00 | pickcoder | the clamd.ctl socket is probably under /var/run/clamav and postfix won't be able to see it |
| 20:01.33 | Kleber_ | pickcoder: and how can I change to postfix see it ? |
| 20:01.34 | antgel | go chroots! |
| 20:01.46 | pickcoder | edit /etc/clamav/clamd.conf |
| 20:01.49 | Darkclaw55 | is it salvagable? |
| 20:01.56 | antgel | Darkclaw55: maybe |
| 20:01.57 | pickcoder | and change the LocalSocket location to a path somewhere under /var/spool/postfix/ |
| 20:02.14 | Darkclaw55 | is the partition still on there? how can I find out? |
| 20:02.33 | pickcoder | you'll then need to update your clamav service in your postfix setup |
| 20:02.35 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, after installing it should work? |
| 20:02.43 | pickcoder | to relative paths |
| 20:02.47 | pickcoder | ./clamd.ctl |
| 20:02.50 | pickcoder | for /var/spool/postfix/clamd.ctl |
| 20:02.51 | antgel | Darkclaw55: with all the vast amounts of info you have given, how do you expect anyone to be able to help? |
| 20:02.53 | lightning | abrotman: do you know of the email notifications package name |
| 20:03.00 | abrotman | biff |
| 20:03.02 | Darkclaw55 | im not sure what information to provide |
| 20:03.05 | antgel | baff |
| 20:03.08 | rking | so, i see a handful of posts about people asking if it's possible to search exact punctuation (e.g., "Dear, John" would be different from "Dear John,"), but apparently no search engine provides this capability. bummer. |
| 20:03.15 | antgel | bosh |
| 20:03.50 | antgel | !tell Darkclaw55 about msg |
| 20:04.05 | Kleber_ | pickcoder: I think it worked ! |
| 20:04.06 | pickcoder | Kleber_: I fear you may run into socket access errors afterwards, since qmgr runs as user "postfix" and clamav runs as user "clamav" |
| 20:04.15 | Darkclaw55 | !tell antgel about msg |
| 20:04.34 | lightning | abrotman: do you know how to disable the notification |
| 20:04.41 | abrotman | biff n |
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| 20:04.46 | antgel | Darkclaw55: thanks *sigh* |
| 20:04.48 | lightning | thanks |
| 20:04.49 | antgel | asg: ow! |
| 20:04.57 | pickcoder | no permission errors? |
| 20:04.58 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, this includes alsa drivers,library and utils? |
| 20:05.13 | pickcoder | I use amavisd-new to handle clamav and spamassassin |
| 20:05.19 | lightning | abrotman: yeah biff is uninstalled and i still get the notification |
| 20:05.27 | abrotman | pickcoder: remind me to ask you a question about that tomorrow or later this evening |
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| 20:05.40 | abrotman | lightning: could be one of the elm-ish packages |
| 20:05.48 | lightning | so search for elm? |
| 20:05.50 | antgel | wmbiff? |
| 20:05.52 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: You only need to update alsa-driver |
| 20:06.09 | pickcoder | abrotman: ok, but don't expect me here any certain day. my wife is on stand-by for twins |
| 20:06.10 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: updating alsa-lib is stupid |
| 20:06.10 | pickcoder | <g> |
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| 20:06.34 | lightning | wmbiff is uninstalled as well |
| 20:06.39 | antgel | pickcoder: come on, what's more important, irc or offspring? |
| 20:06.40 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: All the programs in debian are compiled against the old alsa-lib |
| 20:06.49 | abrotman | pickcoder: you have to be there for that ? |
| 20:07.17 | piko | Hi, could anyone tell what is the right kernel for dualcore E6700 on debian |
| 20:07.43 | Kleber_ | pickcoder: still getting error messages |
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| 20:07.49 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, i still have not sound |
| 20:07.58 | palestinian | it was installeyd correctl |
| 20:08.13 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, this is a common problem with this card, because of this there r many tutorials |
| 20:08.13 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: run - alsaconf (as root) |
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| 20:08.18 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, y did |
| 20:08.22 | pickcoder | antgel: that's a tough one.. I guess the offspring until they're computer literate enough to chat too |
| 20:08.24 | palestinian | and it detected my card |
| 20:08.26 | piko | I do not know whether to use k8 |
| 20:08.29 | palestinian | and also alsamixer |
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| 20:08.43 | abrotman | piko: -686 or -k8 |
| 20:08.46 | pickcoder | Kleber_: pastebin the errors from the mail logs |
| 20:09.02 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: and you are certain everything is unmuted etc |
| 20:09.11 | cinex | is there driver problems with bluetooth dongles ? |
| 20:09.24 | Kleber_ | pickcoder: may I do that tomorrow ? will you be here tomorrow ? |
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| 20:09.43 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, yes,of course |
| 20:09.44 | Squart | hello |
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| 20:09.48 | piko | abrotman: 686? Are you sure? |
| 20:09.53 | stew | is there any possible advantage to running a -686 kernel when you could run a -k8 kernel? |
| 20:10.04 | Squart | i am currently looking for a back up software for gnome anyone can help me? |
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| 20:10.12 | earthian | hello |
| 20:10.13 | pickcoder | Kleber_: I should be |
| 20:10.17 | h3sp4wn | Is k8 not a 64 bit kernel ? |
| 20:10.22 | piko | stew: maybe sometimes, but does not ake sense for me |
| 20:10.28 | Kleber_ | pickcode: ok friend, thanks ! see you tomorrow |
| 20:10.31 | piko | h3sp4wn: amd64-k8 should be |
| 20:10.45 | earthian | where are located the gnome-panel main menu on filesystem? i thinks its a bunch of .desktop files? |
| 20:10.52 | h3sp4wn | 64 bit kernel with a 32bit userland can be a pita |
| 20:11.14 | piko | h3sp4wn: E6700 should be 64 bit |
| 20:11.24 | piko | mean intel dualcore |
| 20:11.34 | h3sp4wn | But he is not using the amd64 port |
| 20:11.39 | antgel | i once went 64-bit. only difference was my apps took up more memory and took longer to crash when they dumped core :) |
| 20:11.43 | h3sp4wn | (otherwise 686 would not be achoice) |
| 20:11.50 | xand | k7 |
| 20:11.56 | stew | h3sp4wn: why is 64 bit kernel with 32 bit userland a pita? |
| 20:12.03 | pickcoder | Kleber_: you can also ask in #postfix if I'm not around |
| 20:12.19 | Kleber_ | pickcoder: I tried in #postfix |
| 20:12.29 | h3sp4wn | stew: alsa and iptables come to mind |
| 20:12.33 | Kleber_ | pickcoder: tomorrow I'll call you... thanks a lot ! |
| 20:12.34 | rahul | h3sp4wn: ITYM s/kernel with/userland and a/ |
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| 20:14.03 | MangosDebian | sooo long and thanks for all the fish! |
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| 20:15.45 | h3sp4wn | stew: afaik you need a 64 bit iptables - and alsa was not at all happy (oss was ok also) - for a server would be fine but why not just pure64 in that case (no idea about nvidia etc) |
| 20:16.23 | stew | h3sp4wn: ok. i was't aware, the only machine i did it on was short lived and not using any of the above |
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| 20:16.58 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, I rebooted and it dont work,when I try to listen with xmms it says the device is busy,and then I try with totem its close automatcly |
| 20:17.10 | abrotman | esd ? |
| 20:17.16 | piko | antgel: I used 64bit with recognizible speed up for scientific apps |
| 20:17.45 | palestinian | abrotman, esd is enabled |
| 20:17.46 | loupgaroublond | does this channel *require* one to be registerd with nickserv? |
| 20:17.51 | palestinian | should I disable it? |
| 20:17.53 | antgel | piko: i couldn't tell the difference with rxvt and vi :) |
| 20:17.56 | stew | loupgaroublond: no |
| 20:18.30 | loupgaroublond | stew, thanks :) |
| 20:18.33 | abrotman | palestinian: didn't someone tell you to disable esd last week ? |
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| 20:18.51 | palestinian | abrotman, well, I tried with it disabled also,and didnt work |
| 20:18.57 | piko | antgel: perhaps they do not use sse3 nor demanding operations |
| 20:18.58 | palestinian | now for example I disabled it and dont work |
| 20:19.02 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: as root - apt-get install lsof; lsof /dev/snd/* |
| 20:19.16 | MangosDebian | rahul: chaiyya! |
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| 20:19.20 | antgel | piko: i was joking. apparently not in a funny way |
| 20:19.28 | piko | antgel: nor me |
| 20:19.39 | antgel | heh |
| 20:19.48 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, i should run the application? |
| 20:19.52 | antgel | !tell piko about smiley |
| 20:20.07 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: that should tell you what is using the card - then you can try aplay or something |
| 20:20.11 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, it said i already have the last version |
| 20:20.23 | piko | antgel: well, I thought this should have been english joke |
| 20:20.33 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, how I run it |
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| 20:20.43 | piko | so uneasy to prove |
| 20:20.57 | rahul | heh |
| 20:21.16 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: find a wav - and do - aplay -D default test.wav |
| 20:21.45 | palestinian | ir says the volume control...i killed it and i can reload it |
| 20:22.00 | palestinian | the volume control is using it,i killed the process |
| 20:22.03 | palestinian | should i reload it? |
| 20:22.13 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: just try playing some sound - |
| 20:22.29 | palestinian | no music |
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| 20:23.28 | piko | palestinian: no music present or no sound comming from your box? |
| 20:23.51 | palestinian | piko, no sound no music, now i received a sound but only using headphones |
| 20:24.09 | palestinian | very slow sound,but not the mp3,like a radio broken |
| 20:24.34 | piko | palestinian: are some loudspeaker connected? |
| 20:24.44 | palestinian | no |
| 20:24.50 | palestinian | its a laptop |
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| 20:25.23 | h3sp4wn | cat /proc/asound/version (Does it say - 1.0.14 - thats what it should say if the earlier step worked correctly) |
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| 20:26.08 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, u r right "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 13:55:50 2006 UTC). |
| 20:26.09 | palestinian | " |
| 20:26.14 | palestinian | but before was installed without errors |
| 20:26.37 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: is there a .deb in /usr/src ? |
| 20:26.39 | palestinian | dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.14-1_all.deb; apt-get install module-assistant; m-a prepare; m-a a-i alsa |
| 20:26.39 | dpkg | package alsa-source_1.0.14-1_all.deb; apt-get install module-assistant; m-a prepare; m-a a-i alsa is already installed |
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| 20:27.05 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, no |
| 20:27.17 | palestinian | but the linux-headers installed yes |
| 20:27.31 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: dpkg -l alsa-source | tail -1 |
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| 20:28.01 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, ii alsa-source 1.0.14-1 ALSA driver sources |
| 20:28.18 | piko | Is it good idea to use fresh 2.6.22 under testing? |
| 20:28.35 | shogunx | !fnord |
| 20:28.35 | dpkg | Ey's not dead, ey's just pining for the fnords! |
| 20:28.37 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: aptitude search alsa-modules~i |
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| 20:29.05 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, didnt got reply |
| 20:29.08 | palestinian | just # |
| 20:29.37 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: ls /usr/src/*.deb |
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| 20:30.04 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, ls: /usr/src/*.deb: No such file or directory |
| 20:30.29 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: m-a (and get into the module-assistant curses interface) |
| 20:30.46 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: update / prepare / select |
| 20:30.50 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, what to choose? |
| 20:31.00 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: alsa |
| 20:31.05 | antgel | does anyone else think about mr burns whenever they think of curses? |
| 20:31.14 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, in updates or select? |
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| 20:31.18 | palestinian | or prepare? |
| 20:31.20 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: select |
| 20:31.32 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: use spacebar and the arrow keys (then press ok) |
| 20:31.59 | palestinian | now install?,search?,get?, build? |
| 20:32.02 | palestinian | or back? |
| 20:32.10 | h3sp4wn | build |
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| 20:32.28 | h3sp4wn | then install |
| 20:32.38 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, when i installed it it did the same |
| 20:32.51 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: Its not installed |
| 20:32.59 | palestinian | ok |
| 20:33.04 | palestinian | i selected build |
| 20:33.08 | D3B14N | Whats the noob-friendly way to upgrade from Etch to Lenny/ :) |
| 20:33.11 | palestinian | its building |
| 20:33.17 | h3sp4wn | otherwise with the aptitude line you would have got something like |
| 20:33.19 | h3sp4wn | i alsa-modules-2.6.22.1-h3-3 - ALSA modules for kernel 2.6.22.1-h3-3 |
| 20:33.39 | antgel | D3B14N: worst troll ever |
| 20:33.46 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, u have the same soundcard? |
| 20:34.03 | D3B14N | antgel; i'm serious. I messed up my sources.list |
| 20:34.07 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: No but I know how this procedure should work |
| 20:34.15 | palestinian | ah,ok |
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| 20:34.22 | antgel | !topicsmite D3B14N |
| 20:34.22 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon D3B14N. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 20:34.35 | hajhouse | is there any diff program in debian implementing block-move-aware diff? (i.e., if i have unique lines ABCDEF and i rearrange them to CDEFAB, the move of lines AB to the end is reported as such, not as an independent deletion of two lines and insertion of two lines) |
| 20:34.50 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, u r right,this process didnt finished before,didnt take too much time before like now |
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| 20:35.25 | hajhouse | D3B14N: actually lenny isn't recommended for noobs. but if you insist, you can do it with apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 20:35.30 | dondelelcaro | hajhouse: as far as I know, there's no patch specification for that |
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| 20:35.44 | cdevroe | Has anyone seen Todd Troxell? Please have him contact Viddler immediately! Many thanks, in advance. |
| 20:35.48 | h3sp4wn | D3B14N: Use aptitude if you are going to do that |
| 20:36.22 | D3B14N | hajhouse; thanks. Nobody Is born expert right/ |
| 20:36.32 | D3B14N | h3sp4wn; thanks |
| 20:36.42 | hajhouse | dondelelcaro: i believe you're right. i'm interested in producing diffs that are more human-readable, i don't actually care if they are machine-readable. (this is for english text, not source code) |
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| 20:37.18 | dondelelcaro | hajhouse: for english text, you'll generally find that wdiff is better |
| 20:37.29 | hajhouse | D3B14N: of course. :) you might want to think about a chroot environment or xen so you can have lenny and etch installed in parallel |
| 20:37.45 | dondelelcaro | hajhouse: though it doesn't have a an indication of when text has moved |
| 20:37.47 | D3B14N | cool thanks for that too |
| 20:38.09 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, than alsaconf? |
| 20:38.22 | dondelelcaro | hajhouse: you'll probably have to first figure out how to indicate that text has moved instead of changed; once you can do that, post processing unidiff output wouldn't be too terribly difficult |
| 20:38.25 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: did you press install ? |
| 20:38.32 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, yes |
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| 20:38.49 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: aptitude search alsa-modules~i |
| 20:38.55 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: should get output now |
| 20:39.14 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, in gnome i get "volume control has quit unexpectdly", should i click in reload" or dont reload"? |
| 20:39.23 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: leave it for the time being |
| 20:39.34 | hajhouse | dondelelcaro: i do use wdiff quite a bit actually :) |
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| 20:39.52 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: don't reload it for the minute |
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| 20:40.14 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, i alsa-modules-2.6.18-4-686 - ALSA modules for kernel 2.6.18-4-686 |
| 20:40.43 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: now try alsaconf and cat /proc/asound/version |
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| 20:41.31 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: (should say version 1.0.14 now) |
| 20:41.45 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14. |
| 20:41.49 | palestinian | ;-) |
| 20:41.51 | hajhouse | dondelelcaro: i can imagine that you would handle moves of a block of identical text as a special-case followup to a regular diff algorithm. i.e., hash all deleted lines and check all inserted lines for dups, then build on that to find the largest common substring |
| 20:41.58 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: But does it work ? |
| 20:42.12 | palestinian | click on reload or dont reload? |
| 20:42.22 | dondelelcaro | hajhouse: right; the actual implementation is fairly trivial |
| 20:42.29 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: don't reload - |
| 20:42.35 | dondelelcaro | hajhouse: the main difficulty is figuring out how to indicate that that's what has happened |
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| 20:42.47 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: just try an application and playing sound |
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| 20:42.57 | hajhouse | dondelelcaro: i could probably implement such a thing in my <sarcasm>abundant free time</sarcasm>. i was hoping someone had alreay done it, since it seems like a common thing to want :) |
| 20:42.58 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, i love u |
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| 20:43.23 | qwaike | selam aleykum |
| 20:43.23 | dondelelcaro | hajhouse: I've personally never seen it; it's possible that colordiff or one of the existing diff post-processors does something similar |
| 20:44.00 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, thank u very much |
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| 20:44.11 | D3B14N | ve aleykumselam qwaike |
| 20:44.22 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, u r great,reallyy thank you |
| 20:44.24 | hajhouse | dondelelcaro: right, well it would be night impossible to make it really robust, but i would be happy with detecting the simple case of deleteing one set of lines and inserting an identical set of lines elsewhere in the same file. |
| 20:44.45 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: no problem (you don't need to update alsa-lib / utils) |
| 20:44.46 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, i hadnt music or porn movies with sound before |
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| 20:45.34 | hajhouse | dondelelcaro: i think that this javascript implements what i am talking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cacycle/diff |
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| 20:47.22 | coolzone | Hi, I have just completed a dist-upgrade on my laptop running testing after which I get a Buserror message when I try to start Quanta and a couple of other KDE programs. What could be causing this? |
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| 20:48.48 | enveezee | coolzone: thats generally what the error message is for.. to figure out what's causing the problem |
| 20:49.30 | coolzone | enveezee lame answers like that does no good what so ever |
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| 20:50.43 | h3sp4wn | palestinian: If at any point with updates you get 2.6.18-5 (or something higher) then you have to rebuild the modules again - but as you are using stable its not likely to be for a while |
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| 20:51.26 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, i dont think ill update, thank u very much h3sp4wn ,now my system is complete |
| 20:52.00 | coolzone | palestinian don't upgrade, things usually just breaks |
| 20:52.33 | palestinian | just a question,when i startup i get "loading HP Linux printing...and i have not printer |
| 20:53.11 | streuner | CUPS? |
| 20:53.15 | antgel | palestinian: you have HP printing package(s) installed |
| 20:53.25 | palestinian | ah... |
| 20:53.45 | palestinian | if ill uninstall them ill get booting faster? |
| 20:53.49 | streuner | palestinian: did you install the driver yet? |
| 20:53.58 | antgel | palestinian: yep |
| 20:53.59 | streuner | well, do you want print or not? |
| 20:54.22 | palestinian | no |
| 20:54.26 | palestinian | i have no printer |
| 20:55.12 | gonzaloaf_work | hi, I'm using amulecmd, how can I do a search for a specific type of file? |
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| 21:00.37 | PlItS | hi to all .. i try to set mode monitor on my wlan0 interface and i get an error Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : |
| 21:00.38 | PlItS | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:00.56 | PlItS | is that a problem with my card or there is a problem using ndiswrapper as a driver |
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| 21:01.37 | shameOnMe | hello, i just compiled fresh kernel on testing, and have some doubts about what is the right way to get rid of "kernel panic". can you give some advices ? |
| 21:02.38 | antgel | shameOnMe: yes, don't compile a kernel, use an image |
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| 21:03.31 | c0uin | hello all |
| 21:03.32 | shameOnMe | antgel: stock kernel is making problems with making nvidia driver |
| 21:04.01 | c0uin | i have a problem with apt-get, i have this error: |
| 21:04.03 | c0uin | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 21:04.11 | c0uin | when i try to install pat-file |
| 21:04.22 | streuner | show us the whole output in paster bot |
| 21:04.25 | streuner | !paste |
| 21:04.25 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 21:04.32 | h3sp4wn | PlItS: You cannot use ndiswrapper in monitor mode |
| 21:04.32 | streuner | and your sources.list |
| 21:05.15 | shameOnMe | TheBonsai: not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) |
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| 21:06.05 | c0uin | streuner: you talk to me ? |
| 21:06.12 | antgel | shameOnMe: did you use make-kpkg --initrd if you have selected your filesystem driver as a module? |
| 21:06.23 | shameOnMe | TheBonsai: i have CONFIG_BLK_DEVINITRD=y do i have to remove initrd fromsystem ? |
| 21:06.35 | streuner | c0uin: yep |
| 21:07.15 | c0uin | http://paste.debian.net/33867 |
| 21:07.20 | c0uin | all debian mirro |
| 21:07.23 | c0uin | +r |
| 21:07.44 | shameOnMe | antgel: i used make-kpkg but not --initrd, if this is preffered debian way i go to recompile it |
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| 21:08.17 | antgel | shameOnMe: who is TheBonsai? you need --initrd if your disk and filesystem drivers are selected as modules |
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| 21:08.40 | streuner | c0uin: ok, you need only one line for a mirror |
| 21:08.56 | shameOnMe | antgel: /wii TheBonsai |
| 21:08.59 | streuner | c0uin: stabl is etch |
| 21:09.00 | PlItS | h3sp4wn, do u have any idea if i can change fron ndiswrapper to wlan-ng driver for a linksys wpc11 V4.0 |
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| 21:09.36 | c0uin | ys i know |
| 21:09.39 | c0uin | *yes |
| 21:09.39 | h3sp4wn | PlItS: No |
| 21:09.45 | shameOnMe | antgel: ok, will be back in 11 minutes ;) |
| 21:09.52 | h3sp4wn | PlItS: meaning I don't know whether you can |
| 21:10.17 | c0uin | at this moment i comment the two last line in kernel-img.vonf |
| 21:10.20 | c0uin | *conf |
| 21:10.41 | PlItS | !tell PlItS wlan0-ng |
| 21:11.45 | shameOnMe | i will do it this way : make menuconfig, make-kpkg clean, make-kpkg --initrd --revision "XX.blah" kernel_image |
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| 21:13.05 | c0uin | error with /var/cache/apt/archives/libapt-pkg-perl_0.1.20_i386.deb |
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| 21:13.32 | streuner | show us the whole output in paster bot |
| 21:13.47 | c0uin | it's in french ;à |
| 21:13.55 | streuner | !info libapt-pkg-perl etch |
| 21:13.58 | dpkg | libapt-pkg-perl: (Perl interface to libapt-pkg), section perl, is optional. Version: 0.1.20 (etch), Packaged size: 80 kB, Installed size: 232 kB |
| 21:14.15 | streuner | well, its not that difficult, because its in context |
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| 21:15.29 | c0uin | http://paste.debian.net/33868 |
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| 21:16.45 | jikuty | is it possible to dualboot Debian with Windows Vista? |
| 21:16.51 | streuner | corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive |
| 21:17.18 | c0uin | but im using debian source |
| 21:17.21 | shameOnMe | antgel: sorry, what you mean by filesystem driver ? what is the name in .conf ? |
| 21:17.59 | streuner | there could always been an error when transfering files |
| 21:18.14 | c0uin | how to solve this ? |
| 21:18.25 | c0uin | change sorces.list ? |
| 21:18.29 | h3sp4wn | jikuty: yep |
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| 21:18.47 | jikuty | is it just as easy as setting up a dualboot with xp? |
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| 21:20.46 | streuner | just delete the deb and download it again |
| 21:20.55 | streuner | s/download/apt-get/ |
| 21:22.28 | h3sp4wn | jikuty: If its from scratch then yes - but the resize stuff doesn't understand vista's ntfs yet I believe |
| 21:22.53 | foutrelis | Hey :) I have a Debian Etch server. I want to be able to transparently edit files in /var/www/ from another computer running windows xp. Any hints on how to achieve that? Thanks :) |
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| 21:23.18 | jikuty | h3sp4wn: interesting.. i might give it a try if im feeling up to it |
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| 21:24.03 | h3sp4wn | jikuty: personally I wouldn't bother - I have only used vista once and I hated it |
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| 21:24.34 | keith4 | i had to use it at work briefly, to test some stuff |
| 21:24.49 | keith4 | once i had ssh, xchat, firefox, and thunderbird installed, it was almost like using linux |
| 21:24.54 | Szeraax | h3sp4wn: yeah, i feel the same way. except, i was using a 850 Mhz proc, with no aero, frip3d, or Direct X 10... |
| 21:24.57 | krazykit | foutrelis, export /var/www via samba with the proper pemissions? |
| 21:25.00 | biz | hi, is there any fast gui browser (not links2 like) like firefox available which doesn't use XUL (like firefox) and therefore is faster on smaller systems? any suggestions? |
| 21:25.21 | petemc | dillo |
| 21:25.22 | krazykit | biz, dillo |
| 21:25.28 | biz | thanks |
| 21:25.30 | keith4 | except no virtual desktops, no virtual consoles, and no functional shell |
| 21:25.40 | foutrelis | krazykit: I've never worked with samba before. I'll google for instructions. Thank you very much :) |
| 21:26.05 | PlItS | what is a .package file and its opend using what ? |
| 21:26.24 | Szeraax | dpkg |
| 21:26.31 | h3sp4wn | Szeraax: I have 2gb ram - dual core decent video card - if I needed the space it would be gone by now |
| 21:27.01 | Szeraax | h3sp4wn: haha. sometime, i'll consider putting it on my better comp... |
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| 21:27.45 | mavhc | biz: netsurf perhaps |
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| 21:28.06 | doublehp | how to play a .mid file ? |
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| 21:28.16 | c0uin | he says me libapt-pkg-libc6.5-6-4.4 is not installed now :) |
| 21:28.22 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: install timidity |
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| 21:28.24 | Szeraax | doublehp: i use audacity |
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| 21:28.44 | Szeraax | then again, i generally listen to them when i am editing them... |
| 21:28.46 | gimp_ | how do i change my compiler to 4.1 |
| 21:28.54 | gimp_ | from 3.3 |
| 21:28.57 | streuner | gimp_: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 21:29.00 | carl | anyone know a less cpu intensive hash than md5sum? i dont really care about how cryptographically secure it is |
| 21:29.11 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: Szeraax that's a combo :D Thnx. |
| 21:29.33 | c0uin | streuner: talk to me again ? |
| 21:29.46 | h3sp4wn | carl: the thing is its can not be unique if you use a simple one |
| 21:29.48 | gimp_ | cannot open 1 for reading |
| 21:29.52 | streuner | c0uin: never :-P |
| 21:29.57 | gimp_ | no such file etc |
| 21:30.03 | streuner | c0uin: just show us the output again |
| 21:30.11 | streuner | heh |
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| 21:30.32 | h3sp4wn | carl: if you want to use sum |
| 21:30.36 | streuner | shameOnMe: linuxnewbies.sf.net |
| 21:30.43 | h3sp4wn | shameOnMe: man make-kpkg |
| 21:31.30 | shameOnMe | streuner: An error has been encountered in accessing this page. |
| 21:31.37 | carl | h3sp4wn thanks, we are testing a few things, and one of the things we want to be able to do is tell if a file has been changed on a webserver, so keeping the load down and doing it fast is important |
| 21:32.43 | streuner | shameOnMe: google for, i think they moved, IIRC |
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| 21:33.23 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: Szeraax not ReZound ? |
| 21:33.43 | h3sp4wn | !info timidity |
| 21:33.49 | shameOnMe | h3sp4wn: No manual entry for kpkg |
| 21:33.49 | dpkg | timidity: (Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player)), section sound, is optional. Version: 2.13.2-14 (sid), Packaged size: 537 kB, Installed size: 1680 kB |
| 21:34.23 | h3sp4wn | shameOnMe: I don't understand how you could have kernel-package but not the man page for it |
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| 21:34.38 | Szeraax | doublehp: ? |
| 21:34.56 | shameOnMe | h3sp4wn: apt-get install kernel-package |
| 21:34.57 | doublehp | Szeraax: cant ReZound do ? |
| 21:35.26 | Szeraax | never heard of it. if it will, then it will. i dunno though... |
| 21:35.27 | h3sp4wn | shameOnMe: But you should already have it seen as you were attempting to use it ( "mention --initrd ") |
| 21:35.40 | Snover | I have an md RAID6 array that I had to stop in the middle of a grow because one of the other disks dropped due to some power problems. Now that I've got it back online the array is assembled but degraded and the 2 disks that used to be on the array are now marked as "spare" and I can't figure out how to get the array to start to rebuild. Help? |
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| 21:36.07 | streuner | shameOnMe: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en |
| 21:36.08 | shameOnMe | h3sp4wn: sorry my fault ... another machine, has not yet kernel-package. |
| 21:36.10 | doublehp | Szeraax: whats the difference between .mid and .midi ? |
| 21:36.47 | h3sp4wn | tell shameOnMe about kp mantra |
| 21:36.48 | gimp_ | the compiler i used to compile the kernel was gcc 3.3, the compiler i have now is 4.1, how do i downgrade? |
| 21:36.53 | h3sp4wn | !tell shameOnMe about kp mantra |
| 21:36.55 | Bogus8 | how do I create a wide open SAMBA share where any user can access it? |
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| 21:38.21 | shameOnMe | h3sp4wn: ehh, that's a nice one :) |
| 21:38.21 | biz | Bogus8: there are good examples on samba.org |
| 21:38.22 | Szeraax | doublehp: virtually none? i used them interchangeabley in the past i think... |
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| 21:39.04 | Bogus8 | biz: I did some googling an dreading of man pages and tried stuff but no go yet |
| 21:39.18 | doublehp | Szeraax: says he can open .midi, but fails on a .mid ... I will rename it and see ... |
| 21:39.30 | Szeraax | doublehp: probly wont do it |
| 21:39.37 | gimp_ | anyone have any idea how i can make my compiler 3.3 instead of 4.1? |
| 21:39.58 | simonrvn | Bogus8: #samba |
| 21:40.03 | doublehp | Szeraax: worth a try ^^ |
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| 21:40.26 | Szeraax | doublehp: actually |
| 21:40.32 | Szeraax | doublehp: it really might |
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| 21:40.55 | Szeraax | doublehp: you know how there is html and htm? htm was the 3 char fileextension |
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| 21:41.15 | Szeraax | adn html was 4. maybe like that with mid\midi |
| 21:41.18 | Szeraax | i think... |
| 21:41.24 | simonrvn | .htm only matters on crippled legacy OSes like windows |
| 21:42.08 | simonrvn | .XXX for that matter ... |
| 21:42.24 | Szeraax | simonrvn: exactly. that why its stupid |
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| 21:42.37 | Szeraax | simonrvn: but i think mid and midi are like that too... |
| 21:42.43 | simonrvn | of course |
| 21:43.39 | Szeraax | doublehp: so how'd renaming go? |
| 21:43.47 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: just install timidity |
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| 21:44.13 | Szeraax | doublehp: yeah that would probly work, or ReZound (if you want to) |
| 21:44.41 | doublehp | Szeraax: useless :( |
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| 21:45.00 | gimp_ | nobody has any idea how to revert gcc to an older version? |
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| 21:45.07 | palestinian | h3sp4wn, thnx again u r great man |
| 21:45.11 | doublehp | h3sp4wn: timidity is 35M sources; I start with audacity (only 7M ) |
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| 21:45.30 | Szeraax | gimp_: go use the man page for apt-get |
| 21:45.33 | h3sp4wn | doublehp: well to play general midi you need the actual sounds |
| 21:45.35 | Szeraax | it has it |
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| 21:46.09 | gimp_ | how are you so sure |
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| 21:46.43 | Szeraax | gimp_: and once you downgrade, you can then hold it at that version so aptitude (or w/e manager you use) won't bother you with updating it either |
| 21:46.46 | devicenull | is it possible to totally remove exim4, and not install another mail server in it's place.. |
| 21:46.56 | h3sp4wn | devicenull: yes |
| 21:47.02 | mith | no you need an mta for a working system |
| 21:47.05 | Ronin | devicenull: yes but you get no system notices |
| 21:47.13 | Ronin | mith: works fine without it but like i said |
| 21:47.18 | devicenull | hmm |
| 21:47.26 | Ronin | certainly not a recommended thing to do |
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| 21:47.33 | mith | Ronin: cron and at (and other things) wont install without an mta |
| 21:47.43 | mith | that equals a nonfunctional system as far as I'm concerned |
| 21:47.44 | h3sp4wn | devicenull: just install the one you want - it will conflict with exim4 |
| 21:47.45 | devicenull | so, would xmail count as a mta? |
| 21:48.03 | Ronin | mith: works fine on the machine here with no mta |
| 21:48.03 | shameOnMe | gimp_: i do it usualy re-linking /usr/bin/gcc to version i like or exporting GCC env variable |
| 21:48.32 | Ronin | had to try it just to see what would happen :) |
| 21:48.33 | Szeraax | gimp_: you do apt-get --install package=3.1 |
| 21:48.56 | gimp_ | apt-get --install gcc package=3.3? |
| 21:49.37 | Szeraax | apt-get gcc=3.3 |
| 21:49.50 | Szeraax | --install* |
| 21:49.57 | Szeraax | put that in its proper place too |
| 21:50.28 | gimp_ | says it can't find version 3.3 |
| 21:51.29 | Szeraax | are you sure its in your current repos for you release version? (probly ?etch?) |
| 21:51.57 | gimp_ | i have 3.3 4.0 4.1 but i need to use 3.3 because i need to compile a driver and the kernel won't load anything that was compiled with a different version |
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| 21:52.24 | Szeraax | see above... |
| 21:52.36 | infernal_jesus | I have a complicated problem |
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| 21:53.06 | infernal_jesus | I had slackware installed (with lilo boot loader) on my laptop. Then I deleted all the partitions, repartitioned the disk and installed debian etch with grub boot loader |
| 21:53.17 | infernal_jesus | I went to boot my computer it displ;ayed the lilo boot loader |
| 21:53.21 | infernal_jesus | with the old options |
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| 21:53.26 | gimp_ | can't i just compile a new kernel instead? |
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| 21:53.34 | infernal_jesus | when I choose any of the options it boots debian |
| 21:53.41 | infernal_jesus | but x won't start |
| 21:53.45 | infernal_jesus | and a lot of things don't work |
| 21:53.51 | infernal_jesus | how can I get back to grub? |
| 21:54.22 | Szeraax | x has nothing to do with lilo, however, are you sure you formatted all the drives you use with debian, infernal_jesus? |
| 21:54.34 | infernal_jesus | Szeraax: yes, I'm sure |
| 21:54.52 | infernal_jesus | it's a laptop, I have only one disk and I reformatted and repartitioned it |
| 21:54.57 | infernal_jesus | wait |
| 21:55.08 | Szeraax | then you don't have lilo |
| 21:55.15 | infernal_jesus | I might have just repartitioned it, I can't remember, but it worked before |
| 21:55.38 | infernal_jesus | Szeraax: yes, I do.. because it says "lilo boot loader blah blah" |
| 21:55.49 | themill | Szeraax: you can repartition a disk and leave lilo on the mbr |
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| 21:55.56 | Szeraax | when you isntalled debian are you sure you cose grub? it can do either... |
| 21:56.06 | infernal_jesus | Szeraax: yes, I chose grub |
| 21:56.09 | infernal_jesus | and it was grub |
| 21:56.12 | infernal_jesus | all up until now |
| 21:56.15 | themill | infernal_jesus: you can use your install disk as a rescue disk and reinstall grub |
| 21:56.31 | infernal_jesus | I went to turn on my laptop and bam! :P |
| 21:56.36 | infernal_jesus | themill: the dvd? |
| 21:56.49 | themill | yes |
| 21:56.53 | infernal_jesus | themill: how do I do that? |
| 21:56.54 | themill | !tell infernal_jesus about rescue |
| 21:56.57 | themill | !tell infernal_jesus about rescue mode |
| 21:57.27 | infernal_jesus | !rescue |
| 21:57.27 | dpkg | it has been said that rescue is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ ("Can I use d-i as a rescue system?") See also <rescue mode>. |
| 21:57.39 | Szeraax | infernal_jesus: well, if it was all f*$&@# up, i would just delete the _entire_ disk and partition and do a clean re-install |
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| 21:57.58 | infernal_jesus | Szeraax: I was thinking about that |
| 21:58.09 | infernal_jesus | !rescue mode |
| 21:58.10 | dpkg | Debian Installer has a recovery ('rescue') mode, which can be used to reinstall the GRUB or LILO boot loaders. See section 8.7 of the Installation Guide ("Recovering a Broken System") for more details. More steps are required if you are using encrypted LVM, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Rescue/Crypto |
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| 22:00.25 | Darkclaw55 | has anyone used ff2recov and successfully retrieved files? |
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| 22:02.52 | mavhc | what's ff2recov? |
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| 22:03.15 | Darkclaw55 | its a program to recover ufc |
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| 22:05.08 | HSorgYves | good morning, someone told me something about .desktop files to create a desktop shortcut. can anyone please point me to further information about this possibility... |
| 22:05.32 | karsten | HSorgYves: IIRC that's a KDE thing, possibly a common desktop standard thing. |
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| 22:05.40 | Kartoffelsalat | package deimudda, but this package says that it can not be installed because my libssl version is 0.01 to new... how can in install deimudda? (don't want to do it by hand, doesn't work -> vmware server, stupid installer) |
| 22:05.45 | Kartoffelsalat | i use sid |
| 22:06.09 | Kartoffelsalat | and vmware is canoncial-ubuntu deb... |
| 22:06.09 | biz | HSorgYves: idesk |
| 22:06.35 | HSorgYves | karsten/biz: where to find more information? kde website? idesk website? |
| 22:06.53 | karsten | HSorgYves: GIYF |
| 22:07.14 | HSorgYves | GIYF? |
| 22:07.28 | karsten | !GIYF |
| 22:07.28 | dpkg | from memory, giyf is Google Is Your Friend, or http://google.com/linux. Gary Izzard, Yankee Farmer |
| 22:08.01 | HSorgYves | karsten - how to search for .desktop on google? it looks for desktop then :-( |
| 22:08.20 | karsten | HSorgYves: Sounds like a personal problem. Sorry, no time. |
| 22:08.27 | themill | HSorgYves: you'll have lots of .desktop files on your machine already if you have any gnome, kde or even X apps installed. |
| 22:08.42 | themill | HSorgYves: details are on freedesktop.org |
| 22:08.46 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: Use vmware-package with the any-any tar.gz and then just use the installer but leave the kernel module bit |
| 22:08.50 | HSorgYves | themill: ok will check those, tyvm |
| 22:08.56 | themill | HSorgYves: np |
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| 22:09.08 | Snover | I have an md RAID6 array that I had to stop in the middle of a grow because one of the other disks dropped due to some power problems. Now that I've got it back online the array is assembled but degraded and the 2 disks that used to be on the array are now marked as "spare" and I can't figure out how to get the array to start to rebuild. Help? |
| 22:09.16 | Kartoffelsalat | this any-any won't work (hope i tried it, it have done so much...) |
| 22:09.22 | Kartoffelsalat | hm |
| 22:09.26 | Kartoffelsalat | i will try it again... |
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| 22:09.38 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: Do it with vmware-package |
| 22:09.43 | Kartoffelsalat | i did |
| 22:09.50 | Kartoffelsalat | i get 3 deb files |
| 22:09.53 | HSorgYves | ty all bye |
| 22:10.22 | Kartoffelsalat | i couldn't install vmware-server itself, the other deb were able to install (hm, this sentence sounds stupid) |
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| 22:10.57 | gimp_ | is there a debian specific way to compile a kernel? |
| 22:11.01 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: why couldn't you install vmware server ? |
| 22:11.59 | Kartoffelsalat | h3sp4wn: won't work, when i install it by hands i get "locations not exist", if i create an empty "locations" file this won't work - if i vmware-config.pl --compile nothing works |
| 22:13.18 | Kartoffelsalat | any idea? |
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| 22:17.30 | symbol | urgh |
| 22:17.30 | symbol | k gang I'm going to go now |
| 22:17.31 | symbol | by |
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| 22:19.30 | Kartoffelsalat | h3sp4wn: okay, i have here my three debs: |
| 22:19.31 | Kartoffelsalat | vmware-server_1.0.3.44356.0_i386.deb |
| 22:19.31 | Kartoffelsalat | vmware-server-blobs_1.0.3.44356.0_all.deb |
| 22:19.31 | Kartoffelsalat | vmware-server-kernel-source_1.0.3.44356.0_all.deb |
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| 22:20.09 | Kartoffelsalat | vmware-server_1.0.3.44356.0_i386.deb, vmware-server-blobs_1.0.3.44356.0_all.deb, vmware-server-kernel-source_1.0.3.44356.0_all.deb |
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| 22:20.22 | Kartoffelsalat | now what should i install and when should i use any-any? |
| 22:20.28 | xand | !paste |
| 22:20.28 | dpkg | Please do not paste anything at all to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 22:20.36 | xand | !vmware |
| 22:20.36 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported. Ask the vendor for support, or ask here: #vmware |
| 22:20.41 | Kartoffelsalat | this is no real paste... |
| 22:20.52 | xand | it was, which is why you got kicked |
| 22:21.08 | Kartoffelsalat | i forget to erase the \n :/ |
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| 22:21.21 | xand | anyway, you'd need to ask #vmware |
| 22:21.43 | LoneWlf | so... when I go to install a package, the part where it says 'Reading Database...' takes a very long time... has anyone seen anything like that before? |
| 22:21.55 | LoneWlf | is there some sort of fragmentation going on that I can fix somehow? |
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| 22:26.07 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: the product is anyany - |
| 22:26.42 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: make-vmpkg -p anyany <file> |
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| 22:29.18 | Kartoffelsalat | h3sp4wn: ty, i will try it |
| 22:30.08 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: You would still have to use module-assistant to build the vmware-server kernel source prior to installing the vmware-server .deb (I would guess) |
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| 22:31.00 | Kartoffelsalat | but first make-vmpkg -p anyany server.tar.gz? |
| 22:31.10 | lindenl1 | has anyone seen the etch installer hang at the clock setup before? |
| 22:32.27 | lindenl1 | it is just sitting there saying "getting time from network time server" |
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| 22:34.10 | lindenl1 | Anyone know how to skip the clock-setup? |
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| 22:35.00 | pike__ | ctrl-c ? |
| 22:35.26 | Kartoffelsalat | h3sp4wn: i do not get how this anyany should work |
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| 22:35.35 | lindenl1 | pike__: tried that no dice...also tried killing th process no dice |
| 22:36.14 | pike__ | lindenl1: network is up? |
| 22:36.15 | lindenl1 | anyway to get to advanced mode ibn the netinst image |
| 22:36.21 | lindenl1 | pike__: yes |
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| 22:36.53 | buchkurish | eyyyy |
| 22:36.58 | buchkurish | why wont the SVN ommand work on me? |
| 22:37.05 | buchkurish | svn co http://trac.aircrack-ng.org/svn/trunk/ aircrack-ng |
| 22:37.16 | lindenl1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.17 | buchkurish | gonan do some cracking |
| 22:37.20 | zinx | hacker :x |
| 22:37.21 | buchkurish | but i cant even use SVN hahaha =) |
| 22:37.24 | buchkurish | woot woot |
| 22:37.44 | zinx | if you're using debian you should use aptitude install aircrack-ng |
| 22:37.55 | buchkurish | mmm |
| 22:37.57 | buchkurish | really ? |
| 22:38.01 | zinx | really. |
| 22:38.01 | buchkurish | woot they have that just like that no wayy |
| 22:38.04 | buchkurish | woot woot |
| 22:38.06 | buchkurish | i try =) |
| 22:38.25 | lindenl1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:38.55 | buchkurish | woot woot hehe it works =) |
| 22:38.58 | buchkurish | thanks zinx |
| 22:39.27 | zinx | be sure to search for debs of software you want first |
| 22:39.34 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: It just allows the kernel modules to be built on a wider variety of kernels |
| 22:39.46 | zinx | packaged applications are a lot more friendly to work with, and there are a whole lot of them for debian |
| 22:39.54 | buchkurish | sure thing |
| 22:40.02 | buchkurish | but how in the world does this aptitude have such application |
| 22:40.02 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: You don't need it if you can build vmware-server-kernel-source against your running kernel without issues |
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| 22:40.03 | buchkurish | i dont get |
| 22:40.06 | buchkurish | who adds these like this |
| 22:41.12 | zinx | aircrack-ng is a security tool, and debian has anything there's a maintainer for, as long as it can be distributed legally |
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| 22:45.10 | chicalinux | hello |
| 22:45.33 | chicalinux | i sm triying to configure a webcam |
| 22:45.51 | chicalinux | but i when i execute the spacgui |
| 22:45.53 | chicalinux | it says |
| 22:46.12 | chicalinux | video device /dev/video0 |
| 22:46.12 | chicalinux | ERROR opening V4L interface |
| 22:46.29 | chicalinux | i have other usb devices |
| 22:46.38 | chicalinux | and all work ok |
| 22:47.05 | chicalinux | but what i have to do create that /dev/video0 |
| 22:47.06 | chicalinux | ? |
| 22:47.22 | Kartoffelsalat | h3sp4wn: roflmao -> the normal official inster works this time (wth!?) - now kernel problem: i run runme.pl from anyany, but it failed too, any idea? |
| 22:48.11 | Szeraax | i'm sorry, but what are you trying to do Kartoffelsalat? install VMWare? (i have some exp withthis and that's why i'm jumping in, if that's what your doing..) |
| 22:48.38 | Kartoffelsalat | yes |
| 22:48.51 | Kartoffelsalat | Szeraax: Server |
| 22:48.59 | Szeraax | k |
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| 22:49.12 | Szeraax | and your sure that you have all the stuff for your kernel that you need? |
| 22:49.31 | chicalinux | i think soo becuse lsmod |
| 22:49.44 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: Do you have kernel-headers etc |
| 22:49.46 | chicalinux | seems to be dtecting the cam and all |
| 22:49.56 | Szeraax | have you done module-assistant -prepare |
| 22:50.07 | Kartoffelsalat | uh, mom |
| 22:50.14 | chicalinux | no no i allready have the module install it |
| 22:50.17 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: Take the tar files from inside the any any |
| 22:50.23 | chicalinux | is already riunning |
| 22:50.29 | Kartoffelsalat | ah |
| 22:50.32 | Szeraax | Kartoffelsalat: i meant you. do you ahev m-a setup? |
| 22:50.33 | chicalinux | modconf |
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| 22:50.40 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: and copy them to where the same tar files are located in the normal vmware part |
| 22:50.51 | h3sp4wn | Kartoffelsalat: and try vmware-config.pl again |
| 22:50.58 | chicalinux | i was there i add it to the kernel |
| 22:51.02 | chicalinux | and all good |
| 22:51.17 | chicalinux | but the /dev/video0 not appear |
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| 22:54.16 | SKOM | heh |
| 22:54.21 | SKOM | i'm really dumb |
| 22:54.33 | SKOM | how can i extract *.tar.bz2 file |
| 22:54.41 | simonrvn | we all have dumb moments |
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| 22:54.45 | simonrvn | !tar |
| 22:54.45 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory" |
| 22:55.02 | Kartoffelsalat | Szeraax: yes, i should have all kernel-stuff which i need, i created two days ago a kernel module for virtualbox (but this haven't an ip feature like i need it) |
| 22:55.13 | Kartoffelsalat | what do you mean with m-a? |
| 22:55.24 | SKOM | naaah that's problem |
| 22:55.26 | SKOM | tarzeau: bzip2: Nelze exec: nenÄ souboruji se adresÄÄĹem |
| 22:55.27 | SKOM | tarzeau: Child returned status 2t: ukonà |
| 22:55.27 | SKOM | tarzeau: Za bÃu programu nastala chyba |
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| 22:55.33 | Szeraax | m-a is the shortcut for module-assistant |
| 22:55.37 | Szeraax | Kartoffelsalat: |
| 22:55.58 | simonrvn | don't paste here |
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| 22:56.13 | SKOM | simonrvn: im sorry |
| 22:56.23 | Kartoffelsalat | ah ok |
| 22:56.28 | karsten | SKOM: And if you're going to post error output, export LC_ALL=C first. |
| 22:56.35 | simonrvn | and please run it with LANG=C in front |
| 22:56.40 | simonrvn | or LC_ALL |
| 22:56.46 | Kartoffelsalat | damn, i should set my encoding right... half of the module-assitant is not readable... urks |
| 22:56.48 | SKOM | eh ? |
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| 22:57.44 | simonrvn | SKOM: most of us don't understand czech |
| 22:57.58 | SKOM | i know |
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| 22:58.17 | Kartoffelsalat | Szeraax: now i updated module-assitant, which module should i select or better: what now? |
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| 22:58.26 | Kartoffelsalat | never used this |
| 22:58.30 | SKOM | but i think you saw that there is another problem :) |
| 22:58.58 | enveezee | using the default debian ssh setup where would it log its info I've got a user logged on here, I want to see when and where they logged it |
| 22:58.59 | marvil07 | I've never used nvu, I see it's GPL'ed, but I also see It's not on official repositories, anyone knows why? |
| 22:59.09 | Szeraax | when you choose "prepare" from it, it makes sure you have everything you need to compile and install modules for your system |
| 22:59.18 | enveezee | actually its sftp if that makes a difference |
| 22:59.21 | simonrvn | SKOM: i'll guess that it's exiting due to errors |
| 22:59.30 | SKOM | djw: i think you're right |
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| 22:59.39 | SKOM | how to install bzip2 ? |
| 22:59.40 | simonrvn | SKOM: check to see if you have bzip2 installed like djw said |
| 22:59.43 | SKOM | apt-get install bzip2 ? :) |
| 22:59.47 | simonrvn | yes |
| 22:59.48 | enveezee | SKOM: yep |
| 22:59.48 | unlink | what's the canonical exchange replacement? |
| 23:00.10 | simonrvn | canonical doesn't have an exchange replacement :P |
| 23:00.17 | enveezee | simonrvn: bzip2 contains the zip and unzip doesn't it? |
| 23:00.18 | SKOM | hh i haven't had installed bzip2 :P |
| 23:00.28 | Szeraax | Kartoffelsalat: when you choose "prepare" from it, it makes sure you have everything you need to compile and install modules for your system |
| 23:00.40 | simonrvn | bzip2 bunzip2 yeh |
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| 23:00.51 | mavhc | nvu isn't updated, there's a fork |
| 23:00.55 | Szeraax | you shouldn't need to use it more than that for VM |
| 23:01.25 | Kartoffelsalat | Szeraax: preparing are allright |
| 23:01.25 | enveezee | I'm getting ready to purchace adobe products I've had enough with nvu :P |
| 23:01.33 | simonrvn | eeew |
| 23:01.33 | Kartoffelsalat | what now? |
| 23:01.42 | enveezee | I'm not paying for the shit anyhow.. or the one who has to use it.. heh |
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| 23:02.07 | Szeraax | Kartoffelsalat: did it do anything after you chose prepare? or did it just go for about 2 seconds and be done? |
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| 23:02.15 | mavhc | it didn't seem that powerful when I used it to teach write webpages to kids |
| 23:02.20 | simonrvn | might want nxml |
| 23:02.22 | enveezee | simonrvn: I just need something idiots can publish via sftp with public keys and nvu isn't doing it.. and if I save locally then scp the URI are all locally absolute. |
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| 23:02.50 | simonrvn | oh, DTP type users |
| 23:03.05 | enveezee | simonrvn: I do not want to use plain ftp on this server and nvu isn't playing nice with saving files locally and using another scp program adobe tells me thier software will publish directly using public keys |
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| 23:03.12 | Kartoffelsalat | Szeraax: build-essentials = OK, nothing to install, all installed, 1.000.000 packages not up to date, that is all what i get |
| 23:03.27 | enveezee | simonrvn: I don't even wanna use passwords cause I can't trust them to use smart passwords :P |
| 23:03.37 | simonrvn | enveezee: supposedly; i've seen someone try that shit and it didn't actually work |
| 23:03.58 | Szeraax | Kartoffelsalat: that's good |
| 23:03.58 | enveezee | simonrvn: yeah I have macromedia contribute and it only does password pased sftp and it didnt work for me |
| 23:04.10 | queuetue_ | Hi. I'm installing to new ASUS/AMD hardware - On both stable and unstable, the nestinst fails when it gets to loading components from the CD, and the log reports "hdc : command error: error=0x05" |
| 23:04.11 | enveezee | simonrvn: I am gonna download trials of the adobe products and see |
| 23:04.21 | simonrvn | enveezee: my condolences |
| 23:04.44 | simonrvn | another area where linux sucks nards |
| 23:04.50 | Szeraax | Kartoffelsalat: so i can't remember exactly, but when i read the readme, i think they had their special script to run, and that worked for me |
| 23:04.53 | simonrvn | :/ |
| 23:04.54 | enveezee | simonrvn: my server right now is in the borough building, and hosting sites for the borough, garden club, fire dept.. etc so I got multiple web developers and they are all pretty dumb |
| 23:05.02 | simonrvn | multimedia, and DTP/web |
| 23:05.08 | buchkurish | zinx: http://www.kismetwireless.net/download.shtml |
| 23:05.11 | enveezee | simonrvn: I just cant have my server and the building's network compromised cause they are tards |
| 23:05.20 | simonrvn | for sure man |
| 23:05.22 | buchkurish | zinx: is there one for linux or no? all i see is source code |
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| 23:05.29 | rabby__ | hi |
| 23:05.55 | rabby__ | is there a list of woody deb sources i can use? all i have are outdated and offline :( |
| 23:06.03 | stoned | as cartman says |
| 23:06.06 | stoned | srew you guys |
| 23:06.08 | simonrvn | there was a site someone gave me a link to once, and i can't find the url anoymore. had a shitload of multimedia software on it, though rpms |
| 23:06.08 | enveezee | simonrvn: an adobe reseller offered me like a 50% govt discount on lisc fees and said I can use each lisc on two machines but they can only use one at a time |
| 23:06.10 | stoned | I'm goin home |
| 23:06.11 | stoned | :) |
| 23:06.13 | buchkurish | hahaha |
| 23:06.16 | buchkurish | stoned haha |
| 23:06.20 | stoned | you guy... home |
| 23:06.22 | stoned | hehe |
| 23:06.24 | simonrvn | heh stoned |
| 23:06.26 | buchkurish | 'damn it, im going to keep butters locked up for weeks' |
| 23:06.27 | stoned | see ya from home |
| 23:06.33 | buchkurish | kasabonita |
| 23:06.36 | buchkurish | have u seen that one? |
| 23:06.42 | simonrvn | whatever man. leaving us stranded again |
| 23:06.45 | simonrvn | :P |
| 23:06.54 | Kartoffelsalat | Szeraax: ok, and what is with this tar files from anyany? what should i do with them? |
| 23:06.56 | simonrvn | enveezee: cool |
| 23:06.56 | rabby__ | where do You get sources for sources.list up to date? |
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| 23:07.05 | enveezee | teh simon raven and nvz are here.. we're not stranded :P |
| 23:07.13 | buchkurish | ehhhh |
| 23:07.14 | buchkurish | eyyyyyy |
| 23:07.18 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 23:07.21 | buchkurish | http://www.kismetwireless.net/download.shtml |
| 23:07.22 | Szeraax | well, i would love to stay and help, but have apparently have a meeting right now... |
| 23:07.27 | Szeraax | sorry Kartoffelsalat! |
| 23:07.27 | buchkurish | who knows which is for linux |
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| 23:07.29 | buchkurish | anyone? |
| 23:07.42 | Kartoffelsalat | Szeraax: ok, but thanks :) |
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| 23:08.05 | enveezee | ls |
| 23:08.06 | Kartoffelsalat | h3sp4wn: what to do with anyany's tar files? |
| 23:08.07 | enveezee | heh |
| 23:08.10 | enveezee | wrong window |
| 23:08.19 | simonrvn | enveezee, nvz: you lazy bugger :P |
| 23:08.37 | simonrvn | Kartoffelsalat: what does 'anyany' mean? |
| 23:08.53 | enveezee | simonrvn: yeah I'm on a win vista laptop.. its throwing me off cause I am connected to the linux box sitting next to me and another one across town |
| 23:09.02 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 23:09.15 | Kartoffelsalat | simonrvn: this is a super-duper package for compiling a kernel module for use with vmware server (i understand this so) |
| 23:09.31 | enveezee | I'm trying to figure out where this ssh connection on this box came from and when it was made but I'm not sure how |
| 23:09.34 | simonrvn | i'm all hooked up like that, but no vista and this box is the only one i irc from |
| 23:10.12 | enveezee | I got an sftp connection for the garden club user.. and my dad and judy are the only one's I've given keys for that, and my dad is at a meeting, and judy is sick and said she hasn't connected all day |
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| 23:10.18 | simonrvn | Kartoffelsalat: you mean module-assistant, no? |
| 23:10.36 | simonrvn | enveezee: tmi ;p |
| 23:10.55 | simonrvn | hope judy feels better soon though |
| 23:10.57 | enveezee | simonrvn: its probably a stale connection but I want to know more before I kill it |
| 23:11.07 | dezent | enveezee: tcpdump |
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| 23:11.16 | simonrvn | he knows |
| 23:11.18 | enveezee | simonrvn: I know about ssh debug but does it log anywhere in normal mode? |
| 23:11.25 | simonrvn | auth.log |
| 23:11.29 | enveezee | ah.. |
| 23:11.35 | simonrvn | but only certain things |
| 23:11.38 | Kartoffelsalat | simonrvn: erm... i do not know if it has something to do with module assitant, this script includes a runme.pl which should do all the work and i have 3 or 4 tar files for kernel-creation... |
| 23:11.51 | simonrvn | Kartoffelsalat: oh ok, nm then |
| 23:11.59 | simonrvn | Kartoffelsalat: thanks for clarfiying |
| 23:12.04 | simonrvn | clarifying* |
| 23:12.32 | Kartoffelsalat | simonrvn: np ;-) |
| 23:12.33 | simonrvn | i thought it was a german grammatical thing, not a tarball =) |
| 23:13.10 | simonrvn | crap, why is it so hot now? |
| 23:13.11 | Kartoffelsalat | noo *g |
| 23:13.25 | simonrvn | ok |
| 23:13.30 | shogunx | !beer simonrvn |
| 23:13.41 | enveezee | heh.. yeah there have been all kinds of people trying to get into this server.. heh |
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| 23:14.10 | enveezee | I should probably turn off PAM on ssh.. its letting them _try_ to login even though there is not a single active account on the system so PAM logins will always fail.. heh |
| 23:14.42 | enveezee | I figured that would be extra security for wannabes leaving the PAM logins turned on cause all accounts have ! in /etc/shadow.. heh |
| 23:15.01 | enveezee | they've tried everything from root, guest, ftp, test..etc.. its funny |
| 23:15.16 | krazykit | enveezee, the names get stupider as the attack goes on. |
| 23:15.25 | enveezee | krazykit: yeah so I notice |
| 23:15.37 | krazykit | i'd swear they get userlists from myspace emails. |
| 23:15.42 | enveezee | heh |
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| 23:15.56 | linux_ | compiz fusion is 100% ok |
| 23:16.05 | linux_ | this is a question |
| 23:16.41 | jetscreamer | !punctuation |
| 23:16.44 | streuner | question? |
| 23:16.54 | streuner | where is the questionmark? |
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| 23:17.19 | krazykit | !question |
| 23:17.19 | jetscreamer | next to the shift key |
| 23:17.19 | dpkg | You don't need to prefix your questions with "Question:" or "I have a question:". See <ask>.. See http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=65&Set=64 |
| 23:17.25 | Jean11 | what kind of driver do I use for an nvidia 7300 GS. Is there anything other than the nvidia driver |
| 23:17.37 | Jean11 | from nvidia |
| 23:18.07 | krazykit | !tell Jean11 about nvidia |
| 23:18.09 | linux_ | Question: compiz fusion is 100% ok , make a install , no problem ... |
| 23:18.33 | simonrvn | shogunx: thanks for the thought |
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| 23:19.19 | jetscreamer | ftp://x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/nv.4.html#sect3 |
| 23:19.19 | Jean11 | krazykit: thanks will check it out |
| 23:19.25 | jetscreamer | Jean11: ^^ |
| 23:19.47 | jetscreamer | GeForce 7XXX G70 |
| 23:19.52 | simonrvn | krazykit: sure looks like it. i've seen fluffy today... |
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| 23:20.36 | jetscreamer | fluffy was in my driveway and ran in the garage when i drove up... |
| 23:20.36 | simonrvn | then they hit iptables limiting and denyhosts ;) |
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| 23:20.48 | krazykit | linux_, so, where IS the question? |
| 23:20.52 | simonrvn | i swear my hosts.deny is bigger than my hosts file... |
| 23:21.04 | nvz | I can tell these people are clueless cause any real intelligent person wouldn't be trying to login as admin or webmin..etc on a linux box via ssh |
| 23:21.21 | zinx | haha |
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| 23:21.31 | simonrvn | by an order of magnitude even, 13 K vs. 3.1 |
| 23:21.37 | zinx | nvz: yeah, everyone knows it's "Administrator"! |
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| 23:21.59 | nvz | but even smart people might try to force their way in via PAM logins on ssh when they don't know I have all accounts set to ! in /etc/shadow so its not gonna authenticate no matter what they type |
| 23:22.00 | simonrvn | Administrator is even funnier |
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| 23:22.34 | simonrvn | it's called "disable root logins" ;) |
| 23:22.37 | nvz | they need keys, and they'd not only need keys, they'd have to spoof the address the keys were issued to. |
| 23:22.40 | simonrvn | disabled* |
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| 23:22.55 | simonrvn | and the priv key |
| 23:23.04 | nvz | I already disabled root logins.. but the users don't have passwords anyhow so nobody is loggin in period without a key |
| 23:23.12 | simonrvn | :) |
| 23:23.23 | nvz | I just left UsePAM yes, as a joke |
| 23:23.33 | nvz | and if you read my logs, you will see why that was a joke |
| 23:23.41 | nvz | cause people have been trying.. heh |
| 23:23.55 | nvz | all thats gonna do is get them investigated for attempt |
| 23:24.08 | nvz | so I know before hand who is _trying_ to get into my server |
| 23:24.15 | nvz | long before they have any clue how to actually do it |
| 23:24.23 | simonrvn | yup |
| 23:24.35 | nvz | I am not real networking/admin literate |
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| 23:24.51 | simonrvn | you seem to get by decently though |
| 23:24.57 | nvz | but I am one sharp mofo in general and I can come up with simple mechnisms like this to make a decent security policy |
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| 23:25.52 | nvz | I'm going to be putting on a co-admin soon.. normal user with adm group privlage to assist me in monitoring issues and investigating abuse |
| 23:26.10 | nvz | will be able to read logs and such but not do any damage |
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| 23:27.28 | nvz | AH!! this damn timeout bug in this router is pissing me off so bad that once I finally buy a new router I am gonna wanna take some agression out with a sledge hammer on this one |
| 23:27.55 | jetscreamer | donate it to a windows user group |
| 23:28.00 | nvz | heh |
| 23:28.05 | nvz | its a linksys |
| 23:28.21 | krazykit | nvz, not gonna put something like openwrt on it? |
| 23:28.24 | ladydoor | Hi all...I just ran chkrootkit and it says my computer may be at risk for bindshell at port 6667, but I also have bitlbee running. Is there any good way to double-check? |
| 23:28.30 | nvz | pisses me off.. drops packets on a connection after about 5 min |
| 23:28.38 | nvz | if its not active |
| 23:28.44 | jetscreamer | 667 is the default torrent thing isn't it or something.. it's familiar |
| 23:28.46 | nvz | krazykit: don't know anything about that |
| 23:28.50 | jetscreamer | er 6667 |
| 23:29.00 | shogunx | 6667 is irc |
| 23:29.01 | jetscreamer | or is that ir |
| 23:29.03 | jetscreamer | c |
| 23:29.05 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 23:29.21 | jetscreamer | you can use the secure alternate irc port |
| 23:29.22 | nvz | krazykit: I need a router that has wifi for the new building anyhow so I will be getting a new server and router soon cause the building will be completed in a few months |
| 23:29.25 | nvz | 19:21 < enveezee> I should probably turn off PAM on ssh.. its letting them _try_ to login even though th |
| 23:29.28 | nvz | 19:21 < enveezee> I should probably turn off PAM on ssh.. its letting them _try_ to login even though th |
| 23:29.32 | nvz | oops |
| 23:29.37 | nvz | didn't see that mouse there |
| 23:29.41 | ladydoor | jetscreamer: And how would you do that? What port would that be? |
| 23:29.41 | jetscreamer | use 8001 instead of 6667 |
| 23:29.48 | cafuego | Unplug it and hand it over. Come on. |
| 23:30.04 | shogunx | nvz just build yourself a router:) atheros and madwifi with openHAL |
| 23:30.04 | nvz | cafuego: heh.. I got a touchpad.. I didn't know the mouse was sitting there too |
| 23:30.19 | jetscreamer | i got home, took off my shoes and stuff.... phone rings gee i get to go work more |
| 23:30.30 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: :( |
| 23:30.34 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you're a doctor ? |
| 23:30.36 | nvz | shogunx: could do that I suppose but like I said I'm not real literate with networking I don't wanna admin more than I understand |
| 23:30.50 | jetscreamer | abrotman: no i cater to the whims of the wealthy |
| 23:31.00 | simonrvn | effing things crashes every time i load a saved game.... |
| 23:31.05 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you make porn ? |
| 23:31.05 | jetscreamer | as a grunt though |
| 23:31.08 | jetscreamer | heh :) |
| 23:31.13 | jetscreamer | ciao |
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| 23:31.33 | nvz | shogunx: the building is pretty big I'm still undecided on how I am gonna get coverage inside and out among other things |
| 23:31.38 | ladydoor | jetscreamer: I'll try that, thanks. |
| 23:31.52 | shogunx | nvz high power radios help;) |
| 23:31.58 | nvz | so far all i've bought were these two compaq laptops.. as minmal-use machines for meetings and web design..etc |
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| 23:32.22 | shogunx | nvz but external amplifiers tend to distort the signal and cause packet loss. |
| 23:32.29 | nvz | shogunx: yeah would be nice to beam the signal across town so the street dept manager can get on from the borough garage |
| 23:32.50 | nvz | without needing to hookup seperate ISP down there |
| 23:33.16 | shogunx | if you can get line of sight and some good directional antennae |
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| 23:34.18 | nvz | I'll show ya :P |
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| 23:36.14 | nvz | shogunx: its not far.. the first point on the empty lot is about the center of the new borough building that is going up, and the other mark is the borough garage where the street dept crew keeps all their stuff |
| 23:36.29 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:37.39 | abrotman | there's no route |
| 23:37.46 | nvz | no route? |
| 23:37.53 | nvz | zoom out or something :P |
| 23:38.00 | nvz | it didn't show for me at first either |
| 23:38.01 | abrotman | oh weird |
| 23:38.04 | shogunx | that should be really easy, actually. |
| 23:38.25 | shogunx | .4 miles you can do with marginal gear |
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| 23:38.52 | stoned | ok |
| 23:38.54 | stoned | wait a minute |
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| 23:38.57 | stoned | pedo is what exactly |
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| 23:39.03 | stoned | kid/child or foot/feet? |
| 23:39.06 | shogunx | feet |
| 23:39.10 | abrotman | nvz: i've been in that area! |
| 23:39.12 | stoned | oh |
| 23:39.12 | nvz | the borough building up there on the main road, is at a higer elevation than the industrial park where the garage is |
| 23:39.32 | stoned | then what is a pediatrician |
| 23:39.36 | nvz | so it could have a clear line of site from the top of one building to the next |
| 23:39.40 | stoned | its not a foot doctor i know that |
| 23:39.49 | stoned | those are podietrists or womething |
| 23:40.01 | amphi | stoned: it should be paediatrician |
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| 23:40.08 | stoned | ok |
| 23:40.09 | stoned | but still |
| 23:40.24 | stoned | if ped == foot, then a child doctor shouldn't be called pediatrishun |
| 23:40.29 | amphi | or even pædiatrician |
| 23:40.29 | stoned | anyway |
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| 23:42.31 | ladydoor | jetscreamer: That fixed the problem, thanks. |
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| 23:43.24 | nvz | cause we got like 5 machines or so in teh old building that I am pretty much replacing.. so those machines I plan to recycle and I was probably gonna give one to the street dept to keep records on.. would be nice to get them wireless access to the manicipal building to send emails. the highschool is like 45deg south same distance roughly and has wifi coverage at both ends of their building too.. as this is a digital school dist |
| 23:43.51 | nvz | eh well 90deg south |
| 23:43.56 | multi_io | how can I collapse an operned branch in the package view in aptitude? |
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| 23:44.06 | nvz | you can see the football field |
| 23:44.10 | nvz | multi_io: press enther on it |
| 23:44.17 | nvz | er enter even |
| 23:44.36 | dondelelcaro | multi_io: ]; hit ? if you forget. |
| 23:44.47 | multi_io | ah |
| 23:44.49 | multi_io | thanks |
| 23:44.57 | nvz | I thought aptitude just used enter to open/close branches |
| 23:45.00 | dondelelcaro | nope |
| 23:45.19 | nvz | hmm I don't really use it.. I mostly use apt and synaptic |
| 23:45.27 | nvz | I only use apt when I'm in a bind |
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| 23:45.50 | dondelelcaro | well, you can use enter, but [] tends to be more useful |
| 23:45.53 | nvz | and I'm getting to a point where I understand the system better even than aptitude so its just a PIMA cause its slower than any other package manager |
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| 23:46.26 | stoned | hola |
| 23:46.37 | stoned | que pasa my amigo peoples |
| 23:46.40 | nvz | this system I gotta go finish tonight is FUBAR. somehow his package info got messed up to where it thought he only had 63 packages or so installed when he had like 1100 and some. |
| 23:47.04 | stoned | nvz: you ..? finish some software? wow |
| 23:47.08 | dondelelcaro | so reinstall the packages using /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list; et al. |
| 23:47.09 | stoned | ;) |
| 23:47.21 | stoned | nvz: still waiting on the music app |
| 23:47.24 | nvz | stoned: hah I don't ever finish programming stuff.. heh |
| 23:47.40 | stoned | I never finish a song |
| 23:47.42 | nvz | dondelelcaro: yeah I did that but I guess I was trying to do two things at once |
| 23:47.50 | stoned | heh, i play something and few days later i change it up |
| 23:48.07 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I was trying to do the dselect-upgrade while trying to go from sarge-> etch and munged it up worse |
| 23:49.02 | nvz | dondelelcaro: so now I am just gonna wipe out / and install etch clean.. he's got /home on a seperate partition. I may backup /etc but I don't think it matters in his case.. casual desktop user probably doesn't even know /etc/ exists much less configured anything |
| 23:49.04 | dondelelcaro | nvz: really all you need to do is get the list of packages you're supposed to have installed selected and then install them. |
| 23:49.24 | nvz | dondelelcaro: yeah like doing that clone thing using dselect-upgrade |
| 23:49.36 | dondelelcaro | no need to use dselect upgrade |
| 23:49.49 | nvz | ah. |
| 23:49.50 | stoned | nvz: I like to ghost |
| 23:49.56 | nvz | then I did it wrong I guess |
| 23:49.56 | stoned | so much more better |
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| 23:50.29 | dondelelcaro | just do find /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list -printf '%f\n'|sed 's/.list//g'|xargs aptitude --schedule-only install; aptitude; and deal with whatever cleanup of broken packages needs to happy. |
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| 23:50.38 | dondelelcaro | /ppy/ppen/ |
| 23:50.57 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I did something like on the dir with the postinst/rm scripts..etc and did a cut -d . -f 1 | sort -u or something and made a package list then did a apt-get dselect-upgrade < package.list deal |
| 23:50.58 | [phear]crippler | If i wanted my dsl laptop to boot from the account it is currently logged on to, what would i need to enter in terminal? |
| 23:51.05 | wykis | Hello, I've just bought nVidia 8600GTS and installed the drivers etc. There's a really strange problem - there's a very high-pitched hiss when the graphics card is NOT in use by a 3D application. Any ideas what's happening? |
| 23:51.17 | nvz | dondelelcaro: your method looks better :P |
| 23:51.18 | dondelelcaro | nvz: that won't work, because not all packages have postinst scripts. |
| 23:51.35 | dondelelcaro | nvz: and aptitude is far better at dealing with a list of packages than apt-get |
| 23:51.37 | nvz | dondelelcaro: na I did an ls on the whole dir and did the cut and sort to remove the rest |
| 23:52.00 | nvz | dondelelcaro: thats why i did a sort -u cause it was listing the whole dir, .list..etc all of them |
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| 23:52.20 | nvz | I was cutting the package name off before the period, and then doing a uniq on it |
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| 23:52.33 | [phear]crippler | If i wanted my DSLinux laptop to boot from the account it is currently logged on to, what would i need to enter in terminal? |
| 23:52.36 | nvz | cause I realized not all packages had scripts |
| 23:52.39 | dondelelcaro | ah; if you do that it'll work, but that's just because it should come out to the same as all of the list |
| 23:52.58 | nvz | dondelelcaro: yeah I didn't know which file to go by so I went by all of em.. heh |
| 23:52.59 | stoned | [phear]crippler: ask in #dsl or #damnsmalllinux |
| 23:53.02 | stoned | or something |
| 23:53.07 | dondelelcaro | [phear]crippler: you want to ask #dslinux |
| 23:53.18 | nvz | dondelelcaro: and I wasn't sure how to mark em installed again either.. so I used the clone method of dselect-upgrade |
| 23:53.19 | stoned | dslinux != dsl? |
| 23:53.47 | multi_io | in aptitude, I choose samba for installation, get some conflicts (i keep all packages on hold by default), go to teh resolution screen, go to a resolution which displays "Install the following packages:\n samba [3.0.24-6+lenny3 (testing)]", hit "!" (Apply). I'm transferred back to the main package view, in which samba is *not* selected for installation. Why? |
| 23:53.50 | krazykit | i thought dslinux was linux on the nintendo ds |
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| 23:54.01 | [phear]crippler | They will not answer me. |
| 23:54.12 | [phear]crippler | Its debian base so why does it matter? |
| 23:54.18 | dondelelcaro | [phear]crippler: well, they're the ones who would know. We can't support dslinux here. |
| 23:54.21 | dondelelcaro | !based on debian |
| 23:54.21 | dpkg | Your distribution uses <apt>, but is not officialy Debian maintained (see <why Debian>), nor do we manage all aspects of it. (see <Debian policy>) Therefore, we are not obligated to help you (see <based on Debian caveats>). Please visit the proper IRC channel for your distribution. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> to name a few. |
| 23:54.22 | krazykit | [phear]crippler, sounds like you need to be patient then |
| 23:54.30 | nvz | dondelelcaro: but now he's almost completly upgraded to etch and I got 13 packages that cant configure because its missing dialog/gnome frontends for some reason and wants to ask me questions about the last 13 packages |
| 23:54.50 | dondelelcaro | nvz: use DEBIAN_FRONTEND="noninteractive" ... |
| 23:54.55 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I have no idea how I munged that all up.. I had him upgrading fine last time I left and he stopped it |
| 23:55.04 | nvz | dondelelcaro: ah.. |
| 23:55.04 | [phear]crippler | I have plenty of that stuff ;P i just idle it on a regular basis and know sometimes there isnt any help there for hours even a day or two.. |
| 23:55.14 | dondelelcaro | nvz: probably nuked /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 23:55.22 | nvz | dondelelcaro: I thought it was suppose to fall back on readline anyhow |
| 23:55.45 | dondelelcaro | nvz: well, it should, but it's possible to have it in a broken state that won't work. |
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| 23:56.29 | [phear]crippler | Well how about this. If I wanted to make debian boot into the account i am logged onto now how would i do that in terminal :D |
| 23:56.29 | nvz | yeah its set to gnome, but its failing, and trying dialog, and thats failing too which starts a dep breakage cause the 1st of the 13 remaining packages can't configure and thus cant install |
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| 23:56.50 | dondelelcaro | [phear]crippler: you don't, because it's a security risk. |
| 23:57.21 | [phear]crippler | that's all i needed to know |
| 23:57.23 | [phear]crippler | thank you |
| 23:57.35 | nvz | I wondered about something similar recently.. |
| 23:57.44 | dondelelcaro | the only time autologin is valid is for kiosks and the ilk where you have a totally locked down user account which is only able to run specific things |
| 23:57.47 | [phear]crippler | hehe good question if you ask me |
| 23:58.04 | dondelelcaro | (or things like mythtv) |
| 23:58.05 | nvz | how I could setup an init script that could start a screen session with my normal apps as my user at boot so all I'd have to do is login and attach it |
| 23:58.22 | gimp__ | which kernel image do i put in /boot/, the arc/i386/boot/bzImage one or vmlinux |
| 23:58.24 | dondelelcaro | nvz: don't use an init script. Use an @reboot cronjob. |
| 23:58.34 | nvz | dondelelcaro: ah. |
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| 23:59.05 | dondelelcaro | (@reboot is the standard method of running something as a user at startup that isn't directly related to the system) |
| 23:59.11 | [phear]crippler | I have this olddddd laptop that has DSL installed on it.. it was owned by a friend who taught me everything i know about linux.. and now i cant figure our all his custom settings |
| 23:59.28 | dondelelcaro | it may be time to install Debian... |
| 23:59.29 | [phear]crippler | and the password it asks for at start up because i delted the default boot user |
| 23:59.38 | [phear]crippler | lol not on this computer |
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| 23:59.45 | dondelelcaro | [phear]crippler: why not? |
