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| 00:00.53 | dendrite | mudge: Usually there are several, or even many drivers involved with sound. |
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| 00:01.28 | mudge | okay, any idea why I get this when I type in alsamixer: "alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument" |
| 00:01.46 | dendrite | mudge: Did you run alsaconf? |
| 00:01.48 | mudge | i'm trying to turn up my sound, as it is really low |
| 00:01.49 | cchance | hey ding get me message |
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| 00:02.15 | mudge | bash: alsaconf: command not found |
| 00:02.20 | mudge | where is alsaconf? |
| 00:02.21 | geo-rge | invalid argument means one of the arguments received was not recognized by the module |
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| 00:02.37 | mudge | yes, but I didn't give it any arguments |
| 00:02.41 | mudge | just typed in alsamixer |
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| 00:02.57 | dendrite | mudge: alsaconf is in the alsa-utils package. |
| 00:03.02 | geo-rge | usually it means there is something missing |
| 00:03.33 | mudge | i have alsa-utils installed |
| 00:03.41 | geo-rge | dendrite: he has alsamixer, it's not finding kernel support for something |
| 00:03.48 | dendrite | mudge: You need to be root to run it. |
| 00:04.17 | geo-rge | no, but you do need to be in certain group |
| 00:04.35 | dendrite | geo-rge: It updates /etc/modules, iirc. |
| 00:04.41 | geo-rge | I think it's called audio |
| 00:04.46 | mudge | ah, switching to root and typing alsaconf worked |
| 00:04.56 | geo-rge | dendrite: alsamixer does? |
| 00:05.04 | dendrite | geo-rge: No, alsaconf |
| 00:05.11 | geo-rge | oh, didn't see t6hat |
| 00:05.38 | geo-rge | actually I did see it but misread alsaconf as alsamixer |
| 00:05.46 | dendrite | geo-rge: =) |
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| 00:06.31 | Wyzard | Is alsaconf even relevant anymore? |
| 00:06.39 | Wyzard | udev does hardware detection and loads drivers automatically |
| 00:06.40 | geo-rge | of course it is |
| 00:06.49 | Wyzard | I haven't used alsaconf in ages |
| 00:06.57 | Wyzard | All it did was arrange for modules to be loaded |
| 00:07.04 | geo-rge | I think alsaconf is called at boot |
| 00:07.14 | geo-rge | that is what the autodetection is |
| 00:07.48 | mudge | I ran alsaconf, got everything configured, but the sound is still really low |
| 00:07.53 | mudge | turned up the sound settings |
| 00:08.02 | dendrite | mudge: Now, as a regular user, can you run alsamixer? |
| 00:08.03 | mudge | tried alsamixer but it still gave an error |
| 00:08.12 | dendrite | mudge: Are you in the audio group? |
| 00:08.18 | dendrite | mudge: type 'id' |
| 00:08.27 | geo-rge | and type groups |
| 00:08.31 | Wyzard | looks like /etc/init.d/alsa has something to do with loading and unloading modules, but it's not doing anything on my system -- /etc/default/alsa is empty except for comments |
| 00:08.36 | Wyzard | udev loads the module at boot |
| 00:08.47 | mudge | it says audio |
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| 00:09.01 | geo-rge | so you are already in the audio group? |
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| 00:09.10 | dendrite | Wyzard: I've seen systems come up like that, and also some that need a kick w/ alsaconf. |
| 00:09.11 | mudge | george: yea |
| 00:09.46 | geo-rge | wonder if you need to be in cdrom group too |
| 00:09.47 | Wyzard | In fact, /etc/init.d/alsa mentions, in a comment near the top, that it's no longer necessary to run it at startup or shutdown, but it still exists because some legacy stuff expects it to be there |
| 00:10.12 | Wyzard | Maybe if you have an old ISA soundcard or something that can't be autodetected, but in that case you could just put a line in /etc/modules |
| 00:10.15 | seekin | my menuconfig "Device Drivers -> SCSI Device Support" is completly empty. thats bad, cause i got SCSI :). how can that be? |
| 00:10.17 | geo-rge | not sure why that would be and might be a sidepoint not affecting the present problem |
| 00:10.37 | Wyzard | I've never seen a modern system that didn't have its sound drivers loaded automatically with no use of alsaconf |
| 00:11.12 | geo-rge | seekin: how did you get the present config file? |
| 00:11.44 | seekin | cp /boot/config** linux/.config make oldconfig |
| 00:12.20 | geo-rge | seekin: what is your uname -r |
| 00:12.33 | seekin | 2.6.18-rt1 |
| 00:12.41 | geo-rge | what kernel are you building |
| 00:12.56 | seekin | the kernel i want to compile is 2.6.21 |
| 00:13.05 | seekin | the kernel i want to compile is 2.6.21.1 |
| 00:13.12 | geo-rge | and that's the source you have? |
| 00:13.27 | geo-rge | (just making sure :) |
| 00:13.27 | seekin | correct |
| 00:13.54 | geo-rge | ok, where is the kernel source tree? |
| 00:14.17 | seekin | ./usr/src ? |
| 00:14.29 | geo-rge | so /usr/src/what? |
| 00:14.54 | seekin | its /usr/src/2.6.21.1/ |
| 00:15.06 | geo-rge | ok, and the .config is in there? |
| 00:15.13 | seekin | sure |
| 00:15.13 | geo-rge | try this... |
| 00:15.21 | geo-rge | cd /usr/src/2.6.21.1/ |
| 00:15.25 | geo-rge | make mrproper |
| 00:15.28 | Knorrie | 2.6.21.1 or 2.6.21-1 |
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| 00:15.44 | seekin | usr/src/linux-2.6.21.1 |
| 00:15.46 | Spiritus55 | What is the command for the TLI based volume manager? |
| 00:15.58 | Spiritus55 | I thought it was something like alsaconfig |
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| 00:16.38 | geo-rge | alsamixer? |
| 00:16.45 | Spiritus55 | I'll check |
| 00:17.20 | Spiritus55 | yeah, thanks. |
| 00:17.23 | Spiritus55 | That was it. |
| 00:17.31 | Spiritus55 | My PCM just keeps turning down for some reason |
| 00:18.23 | snowbird | when i go on internet my text always shrinks |
| 00:18.33 | snowbird | have to veiw and make it be\igger |
| 00:18.53 | geo-rge | snowbird: if you also shrink, it won't be a problem :) |
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| 00:19.05 | Knorrie | snowbird: can you define 'go on internet'? |
| 00:19.36 | geo-rge | it's like a roller coaster ride... "you have to be at least this tall to ride" |
| 00:20.01 | geo-rge | if it's like most rides, you have to wait in line to get on |
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| 00:21.24 | snowbird | click firefox then go onto google |
| 00:21.54 | geo-rge | hit ctrl-+ |
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| 00:22.11 | snowbird | yeah i want it to stay one seize on its own |
| 00:22.21 | Knorrie | or install more fonts |
| 00:22.29 | Knorrie | like msttcorefonts |
| 00:22.34 | pitakill_ | hi people, i have one question about kernel on debian, i can't do a make menuconfig on /usr/src/linux, i just pass from gentoo to debian, then i don't know how to get this stuff for creating my own image of kernel |
| 00:22.54 | Knorrie | !kernel-package |
| 00:22.54 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra' |
| 00:23.12 | pitakill_ | thanks |
| 00:23.52 | geo-rge | pitakill_: not comparing dists or anything,,,, but you might find building a package out of the results of your kernel compile to be convenient |
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| 00:25.30 | mudge | i tried restarting my computer, but that didn't fix the sound |
| 00:26.16 | mudge | anyone in here? |
| 00:26.34 | geo-rge | mudge: try this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=rkti7BAb3-8 |
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| 00:27.32 | Supaplex | does i810 have glx? |
| 00:27.35 | mudge | don't hear anything |
| 00:27.42 | abrotman | Supaplex: yes |
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| 00:28.14 | geo-rge | mudge: ok pull up a shell and run alsamixer |
| 00:29.05 | mudge | geo-rge: I get this error when I try to run alsamixer: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument |
| 00:29.16 | geo-rge | hmm |
| 00:29.27 | geo-rge | so you're still getting that? |
| 00:29.31 | mudge | yea |
| 00:29.36 | geo-rge | but it worked when you ran it as root |
| 00:29.44 | mudge | no it didn't |
| 00:29.48 | geo-rge | didn't? |
| 00:29.50 | mudge | alsaconf worked as root |
| 00:29.51 | geo-rge | hmm |
| 00:29.54 | mudge | but alsamixer didn't |
| 00:30.14 | dendrite | mudge: Did you try aumix? |
| 00:30.22 | Nyle | geo-rge: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5919131421866522322 |
| 00:30.34 | geo-rge | that would require oss support |
| 00:30.41 | Nyle | dendrite: hi, long time no see |
| 00:30.44 | geo-rge | hmm, that's actually a good idea |
| 00:30.51 | mudge | bash: aumix: command not found |
| 00:31.02 | dendrite | Nyle: Yeah, it's been a while. I happened by while trying to sort out some repository issues. |
| 00:31.13 | Nyle | dendrite: so where have you been? |
| 00:31.23 | geo-rge | dated formula metal |
| 00:31.25 | dendrite | Nyle: Coding like a mad fool, mostly. |
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| 00:31.34 | Nyle | geo-rge: the into sucks |
| 00:31.40 | geo-rge | oh, ok |
| 00:31.48 | Nyle | geo-rge: the progressions and melodic lines are very well thought out |
| 00:31.50 | dendrite | Oops, gtg. |
| 00:31.56 | Nyle | dendrite: hah, take iteasy |
| 00:32.33 | geo-rge | so it' |
| 00:32.36 | geo-rge | s in ll |
| 00:32.44 | geo-rge | like "Hey Yeah" |
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| 00:33.37 | mudge | what's the command to show wich sound card you have? |
| 00:33.39 | geo-rge | it doesn't hurt that he must have spent thousands of dollars on his tone |
| 00:33.45 | Nyle | mudge: lspci? |
| 00:34.00 | Nyle | geo-rge: batio is king |
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| 00:34.11 | geo-rge | of ratios? |
| 00:34.17 | Supaplex | humm Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 00:34.34 | Nyle | load glx in xorg.conf? |
| 00:34.37 | Supaplex | bah. bbiaw. f00d calls! |
| 00:35.48 | vampirefrog | hi I'm trying to install the latest alsa, from unstable. I've added 'APT::Default-Release "lenny";' to /etc/apt/apt.conf, and added a line for unstable sources in /etc/apt/sources.list, but when I do a dist-upgrade, a lot of new packages (>150) show up which I don't want to install, they're probably from unstable. where did I go wrong? I just want to install one package |
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| 00:35.55 | Nyle | geo-rge: #music |
| 00:36.46 | Wyzard | vampirefrog: ALSA is kernel drivers |
| 00:36.59 | Wyzard | vampirefrog: The alsa packages are basically just scripts and configuration tools |
| 00:37.12 | abrotman | and lenny isn't unstable |
| 00:37.12 | vampirefrog | ahh. I see... So I should upgrade my kernel? |
| 00:37.35 | Wyzard | vampirefrog: If you need a newer version of a soundcard driver, yes... but are you sure you need that? |
| 00:37.41 | vampirefrog | abrotman, lenny is my current, I want to install a package from unstable into a lenny |
| 00:37.59 | vampirefrog | I'm getting these sound artifacts, I've tried some things, but no result |
| 00:38.16 | vampirefrog | when I use the default setup, the music is fine, but only in two speakers |
| 00:38.34 | vampirefrog | when I modify .asoundrc to support 5.1, the sound has some artifacts |
| 00:38.42 | geo-rge | Nyle: I think maybe I can top that... |
| 00:38.46 | vampirefrog | I've 5.1 btw |
| 00:38.55 | geo-rge | nyle: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=92159897 |
| 00:39.01 | geo-rge | play "raid" |
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| 00:39.16 | Nyle | #music |
| 00:39.24 | geo-rge | the guitarist and composer is a buddy of mine |
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| 00:40.54 | Nyle | gotta love unstable |
| 00:40.57 | Nyle | fucking pos |
| 00:40.57 | geo-rge | I'm not particularly ready to hang out with more opinionated assholes :P |
| 00:40.58 | Nyle | :) |
| 00:41.07 | Nyle | geo-rge: its ot here |
| 00:41.11 | Nyle | geo-rge: hardly |
| 00:41.16 | geo-rge | or inclined to do so |
| 00:41.23 | Nyle | but i see that you are good at passing judgements |
| 00:41.39 | Nyle | as you wish, I don't want to carry on a pointless discussion |
| 00:41.42 | Nyle | its ot here |
| 00:41.43 | Gaidin | hey, i have tried several times to get samba working. i have one folder shere correctly and ecen though the settings are exactly the same(apart from th path) it doesn't work properly. the windows machines can view the fils on the folder but not access them in any way. here is a pastebin of my smb.conf http://www.pastebin.ca/699058 |
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| 00:42.20 | geo-rge | Nyle: then I don't see why you started it |
| 00:42.24 | Nyle | world writable |
| 00:42.33 | Nyle | heh |
| 00:42.36 | Nyle | thats not too good |
| 00:42.54 | Nyle | Gaidin: your music dir is not writable |
| 00:42.58 | Gaidin | oh? |
| 00:43.00 | Gaidin | lemme see |
| 00:43.02 | Gaidin | wait |
| 00:43.07 | Gaidin | i don't want that writeable |
| 00:43.09 | Nyle | line 65 |
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| 00:43.12 | Nyle | oh ok |
| 00:43.13 | Gaidin | i wnat it read only |
| 00:43.18 | Nyle | whats the problem again |
| 00:43.26 | Gaidin | the users cannot do anything |
| 00:43.29 | Gaidin | they can see ther files |
| 00:43.37 | Gaidin | but can't play/copy/cut ect them |
| 00:43.42 | Gaidin | from either directory |
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| 00:43.54 | Gaidin | *etc |
| 00:44.35 | Nyle | I don't see a problem with the conf |
| 00:44.46 | Gaidin | oh well then its something else..... |
| 00:44.49 | Gaidin | hmmm |
| 00:44.51 | Nyle | maybe your perms on the linux machine are screwed |
| 00:44.54 | Nyle | check those maybe |
| 00:44.57 | Gaidin | its a fat32 |
| 00:45.02 | Nyle | hmm |
| 00:45.08 | Gaidin | brb sorry |
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| 00:45.45 | geo-rge | Galdin: you can't do much about that. btw, why are you using such a file system under linux? |
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| 00:51.01 | Gaidin | back |
| 00:51.02 | john666 | so he can use it both on linux and windows |
| 00:51.22 | Gaidin | geo-rge: so it will be read by my windows installation |
| 00:51.36 | Gaidin | what john666 said :) |
| 00:51.48 | geo-rge | he can't expect to be able to set unix-style permissions tho. |
| 00:51.52 | Gaidin | no |
| 00:52.00 | Gaidin | but surely they can use it |
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| 00:52.13 | Gaidin | surely there is another way |
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| 00:52.30 | geo-rge | if you want people to be able to own their own files and deal with them, fat32 is the wrong filesystem if you run linux |
| 00:52.49 | Gaidin | ok well i can't change it got nowhere to put the files |
| 00:52.55 | Gaidin | damn..... |
| 00:53.06 | Gaidin | oh well thanks for the help |
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| 00:53.29 | john666 | no, you can use unix file permission under fat32 |
| 00:53.41 | robin_szz | so .. anyone know where to ask for HylaFAX help? |
| 00:53.46 | geo-rge | explain |
| 00:53.49 | robin_szz | and dont say #hylafax |
| 00:53.52 | john666 | im on a windows box |
| 00:53.58 | john666 | and i have cygwin |
| 00:54.06 | john666 | i can chmod files at will |
| 00:54.17 | john666 | and then, i really cant access them |
| 00:54.25 | robin_szz | sounds great |
| 00:54.33 | geo-rge | john666: so then he should be able to mount the filesystem with the chmod/chowned files. yes? |
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| 00:54.47 | john666 | yes |
| 00:55.06 | john666 | its not exactly the same as under unix, but its kinda similar |
| 00:55.51 | geo-rge | so he mounts the fat32, and it shows what user the files belong to and their permissions as set under cygwin by chmod/chown? |
| 00:56.22 | geo-rge | so you know, this is the first time I'm hearing this... |
| 00:56.54 | cockroach | okay, this is not really debian specific but i'll try anyway: i just installed a new disk in my computer, installed debian on it (got some dma errors during bootup, the rest went fine though) but now i get "Boot Failure: System Halted". |
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| 00:58.15 | cockroach | could this be because the disk is too large? it's a p4 with an intel chipset, the disk is 400G. afaik, the mbr should, however, still be accessible, and the BIOS shouldn't bother about the rest of the disk. any suggestions? |
| 00:58.42 | Gaidin | back |
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| 00:59.02 | geo-rge | cockroach: did you format the drive after you put it into the machine? |
| 00:59.22 | cockroach | geo-rge: not the whole drive, just the partitions i used for debian. |
| 00:59.31 | geo-rge | if you're getting dma errors, that might be hardware issues, or configuration issue. find out which and why it's happening |
| 00:59.50 | geo-rge | so the drive was already partitioned |
| 01:00.06 | cockroach | geo-rge: no, i created the partitions. the drive was brand new. |
| 01:00.24 | geo-rge | what's on the rest of the drive? |
| 01:00.48 | cockroach | geo-rge: i also tried (just for the sake of trying) a windows installation. same result: installation went smooth, couldn't boot afterwards |
| 01:01.10 | cockroach | geo-rge: nothing yet. that is, residue of the windows installation and about 350GB of nothingness :) |
| 01:01.22 | geo-rge | ok |
| 01:01.25 | geo-rge | hmm |
| 01:01.47 | geo-rge | is it the only drive in the machine? |
| 01:01.54 | cockroach | geo-rge: at the moment, yes |
| 01:02.18 | geo-rge | but are there things like cdrom drives, floppies etc? |
| 01:02.44 | cockroach | yes, one of each |
| 01:03.16 | geo-rge | ok, are the hd and the cdrom on the same cable? and is there a second connector for another cable? |
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| 01:03.44 | cockroach | geo-rge: no, the hard drive is on ide0, the cdrom on ide1 |
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| 01:04.21 | Palish | Heya. I'm a little new to.. things.. and I have a quick question. A hard drive contains many partitions, and each partition can be formatted to ext3, and each partition can be mounted or unmounted, correct? |
| 01:04.27 | Palish | and if it's mounted, it's in use |
| 01:04.31 | cockroach | geo-rge: btw, just tested the drive in another computer (also with an intel chipset, even older) and that one can't seem to boot off it either... |
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| 01:04.39 | cockroach | Palish: correct |
| 01:04.42 | tapas | can i tell apt to put the downloaded packages somewhere else than the standard path [running low on space on /] |
| 01:04.54 | Palish | okay. Is there any advantage to creating a different partition for, say, your swap file, or anything else? |
| 01:05.15 | cockroach | tapas: you could just make /var/cache/apt/archives a symlink to some other place... |
| 01:05.34 | dvs | Palish: I'd put /home on a different partition in case you have to reinstall |
| 01:05.37 | geo-rge | Palish: a hard drive can contain many partitions |
| 01:05.42 | geo-rge | doesn't have to |
| 01:06.01 | tapas | hmm |
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| 01:06.07 | tapas | sudo apt-get -o Dir::Cache=/media/home/tapas/foo/ dist-upgrade |
| 01:06.16 | tapas | E: Could not open lock file /media/home/tapas/foo/archives/lock - open (2 No such file or directory) |
| 01:06.29 | tapas | i guess i need to create the dir? |
| 01:06.31 | simonrvn | touch that file |
| 01:06.48 | simonrvn | create dirs as needed (use -p ;) |
| 01:07.01 | tapas | :) |
| 01:07.38 | tapas | need to get 2001MB :) oh joy :) |
| 01:07.44 | simonrvn | i've seen instructions for linux-specific stuff, and i'll rarely see people using the -p for mkdir. which is odd |
| 01:07.45 | cockroach | geo-rge: but does it make sense that only the mbr "does not work" while, as soon as a system is booted, the hard drive can be accessed normally? |
| 01:07.47 | Nyle | holy shit |
| 01:07.49 | simonrvn | holy smokes |
| 01:07.50 | Nyle | 2gb |
| 01:08.01 | dvs | holy crap |
| 01:08.05 | geo-rge | cockroach: any sector can be damaged |
| 01:08.12 | Nyle | I didn't upgrade my sid laptop in 8 months and i only needed 700is mb |
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| 01:08.20 | cockroach | geo-rge: hrm. would smart notice that? |
| 01:08.23 | Nyle | simonrvn: whats going on |
| 01:08.30 | tapas | it's ubuntu ;) [noone in that channel answered :)] |
| 01:08.42 | geo-rge | the mbr being damaged, that would be pretty bad... I thought the partition table was on the mbr |
| 01:08.53 | simonrvn | i change x session so often that i decided to make it a bit more 'intelligent' and put in some vars with if statements.... |
| 01:09.11 | geo-rge | tapas: /msg dpkg nopaste |
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| 01:09.26 | Nyle | simonrvn: amd64 sid is kicking my ass |
| 01:09.33 | Nyle | but I will beat it |
| 01:09.52 | geo-rge | oh good... will you have patches for the problems you find? |
| 01:10.04 | cockroach | geo-rge: hrm, then it would be rather unlikely that partitioning works just fine. but can a disk actually be "too big" for the BIOS to be able to boot off it (as long as /boot isn't anywhere near the end)? |
| 01:10.12 | Nyle | I ran into many obstables and I have documented those. Going to do |
| 01:10.20 | Nyle | more search and post some bugs |
| 01:10.23 | simonrvn | geo-rge: tapas is using ubuntu |
| 01:10.36 | geo-rge | simonrvn: saw that |
| 01:10.42 | simonrvn | Nyle: eh, to be expected i guess |
| 01:10.42 | Nyle | I want amd64 to become as stable as possible and fixed up and all that jazz |
| 01:10.44 | simonrvn | geo-rge: ok |
| 01:10.48 | geo-rge | regardless, he shoulnd't have pasted :) |
| 01:10.56 | simonrvn | not at all =) |
| 01:11.05 | geo-rge | Nyle: meetoo |
| 01:11.09 | Nyle | geo-rge: dude why are you grillin me man |
| 01:11.23 | geo-rge | because you're not done yet? |
| 01:11.23 | Nyle | just wondering |
| 01:11.25 | tapas | what;s producing more noise? me pasting two lines [instead of 1 url] or yor rumbling about it? ;) |
| 01:11.27 | Nyle | lol |
| 01:11.44 | simonrvn | tapas: ^%*&%()*&@#*$jhUYO(^@#Y^$J:@!)!()_!*~!%(^%~(%#$%^ :P |
| 01:11.58 | tapas | ;D |
| 01:12.01 | simonrvn | sticking in control chars would've been a little much ;) |
| 01:12.09 | simonrvn | like |
| 01:12.17 | Nyle | both my keyboards suck |
| 01:12.30 | Nyle | my fingers also don't comply anymore |
| 01:12.51 | simonrvn | hint: hammer |
| 01:12.54 | simonrvn | :P |
| 01:13.04 | wire | roxor :) |
| 01:13.06 | wire | is better |
| 01:13.12 | wire | :) |
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| 01:16.25 | shifty | can some1 help me with xchat? |
| 01:16.37 | john666 | :(){:|:&};: |
| 01:16.38 | simonrvn | !tell shifty -about ask |
| 01:16.45 | simonrvn | john666: don't do that |
| 01:16.52 | john666 | why |
| 01:16.57 | john666 | id just need to reboot |
| 01:17.03 | shifty | ok |
| 01:17.05 | simonrvn | it's not cool |
| 01:17.21 | simonrvn | !reboot |
| 01:17.21 | dpkg | you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2, or for chumps |
| 01:17.33 | shifty | if i do ./configure i get at the end of it |
| 01:17.36 | shifty | Warning: The GTK (GUI) frontend will not be built. |
| 01:17.47 | shifty | how can i fix that? |
| 01:17.47 | simonrvn | uh, why are you building it? |
| 01:17.59 | shifty | i want the newest version |
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| 01:18.05 | simonrvn | why? |
| 01:18.16 | amphi | shifty: ./configure should have told you what it missed |
| 01:18.36 | shifty | not really... or i dont understand it xD |
| 01:18.45 | simonrvn | probably just need the gtk2 dev package |
| 01:18.51 | kevinO | is bittorent the fastest way to download debian? |
| 01:18.51 | Nyle | fuckin soap operas on irc |
| 01:18.54 | shifty | already installed |
| 01:18.54 | Nyle | I swear to god |
| 01:18.56 | simonrvn | (i suspect the latter ;) |
| 01:19.13 | simonrvn | Nyle: *shrug* |
| 01:19.14 | amphi | and glib-dev and ... |
| 01:19.38 | simonrvn | Nyle: ghost people :P |
| 01:19.46 | Nyle | simonrvn: its just amusing |
| 01:19.47 | Nyle | :) |
| 01:19.55 | simonrvn | hehe, it can be |
| 01:19.56 | shifty | ok... what can i do? |
| 01:20.22 | Nyle | *sigh* |
| 01:20.25 | simonrvn | apt-get build-dep xchat |
| 01:20.45 | simonrvn | brb, detaching |
| 01:20.49 | Nyle | awe |
| 01:20.56 | kevinO | what is the faste way to download dvd images? |
| 01:20.59 | shifty | ok |
| 01:21.00 | simonrvn | i won't be gone long ;p |
| 01:21.02 | Nyle | torrents |
| 01:21.04 | shifty | what does that do? |
| 01:21.08 | Nyle | hehe |
| 01:21.37 | kevinO | ok, just wondering , its been 2 days so far, have 1 more to go |
| 01:22.15 | shifty | after apt-get build-dep xchat i still get Warning: The GTK (GUI) frontend will not be built. |
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| 01:23.29 | simonrvn | re |
| 01:23.31 | Nyle | word |
| 01:23.55 | spx2 | resistence is futile |
| 01:24.00 | Nyle | lol |
| 01:24.00 | Nyle | wtf |
| 01:24.09 | simonrvn | probably need to clean up |
| 01:24.12 | Nyle | where did that come from, totally random statement, very funny timing too though |
| 01:24.16 | simonrvn | "resistance" |
| 01:24.19 | spx2 | Nyle: :) |
| 01:24.29 | shifty | ? |
| 01:24.52 | peterS | no, resistance is voltage over current |
| 01:24.59 | Nyle | hah |
| 01:25.12 | simonrvn | peterS :) |
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| 01:25.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | good spelling is futile? |
| 01:25.19 | Palish | Are there any good reasons for creating more than one partition, if you only have one hard drive? |
| 01:25.22 | Nyle | peterS: I've been seriously addicted to Mozart's 25th Symphony in Gmin |
| 01:25.22 | geo-rge | so futile is voltage over current? |
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| 01:25.35 | Nyle | lately, its the shiznit |
| 01:25.37 | spx2 | so I was like watching miss south carolina teen with her interesting speech on edjucationz |
| 01:25.43 | spx2 | It was pretty fun ... |
| 01:25.47 | spacemnky | chocolate rain |
| 01:25.52 | Nyle | peterS: ever heard of Viktoria Mullova? |
| 01:25.57 | dvs | spx2: with the mapz |
| 01:25.57 | peterS | Nyle: no |
| 01:26.00 | geo-rge | and current * current * futile is power? |
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| 01:26.02 | Gaidin | no futile is pushing shit uphill with a rubber fork |
| 01:26.05 | Nyle | peterS: look her up |
| 01:26.10 | spx2 | dvs: yea and ozama ben laden .. :D |
| 01:26.28 | Nyle | peterS: http://www.viktoriamullova.com/recordings.asp |
| 01:26.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | Palish, you might fill up all of your hard-disk with a log that is filled by insane errors, or just one partition... |
| 01:26.46 | cockroach | geo-rge: well, i can't seem to get the disk to boot in either of those boxes. think i should return it? |
| 01:26.50 | spx2 | Nyle: so who is this woman ? |
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| 01:27.00 | geo-rge | cockroach: absolutely |
| 01:27.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | Palish, same for things that might go on in /tmp - either they just affect /tmp, or your whole system |
| 01:27.06 | dvs | Palish: yeah, if it's a server, you'd want /var on a different partition too |
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| 01:27.09 | Nyle | shes kinda hot, kinda sexy, and amazing at the violin |
| 01:27.10 | geo-rge | if you can get your money back, do it |
| 01:27.24 | Nyle | its like, she touches the strings of my heart with her violin |
| 01:27.37 | spx2 | dvs: do you know other funny girls ? |
| 01:27.37 | Nyle | nvz: hey where is that music theory program |
| 01:27.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | Gaidin, you sound like dpkg |
| 01:27.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | !futile |
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| 01:27.47 | Gaidin | i do? |
| 01:27.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, that sentence did |
| 01:27.57 | Gaidin | lol ok |
| 01:28.02 | Nyle | oh wait |
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| 01:28.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | <Gaidin> no futile is pushing shit uphill with a rubber fork |
| 01:28.09 | dvs | spx2: hmmm... where do I start? |
| 01:28.13 | Nyle | its sunday in some parts of the world already huh |
| 01:28.15 | Nyle | dvs!! |
| 01:28.17 | spx2 | dvs: looolz :)) |
| 01:28.18 | Palish | Hmm.. Okay. |
| 01:28.19 | Nyle | whats up man |
| 01:28.29 | spx2 | dvs: actually I meant unintentionally fun girls :D |
| 01:28.33 | shifty | how can i install gtk feature for xchat? |
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| 01:28.47 | Nyle | shifty: xchat is gtk2 based |
| 01:28.54 | geo-rge | and /tmp and /home and /usr and probably /usr/src and probably /usr/local |
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| 01:28.58 | shifty | ok how can i install gtk2 |
| 01:29.03 | dvs | Nyle: why the heck are you undercover? |
| 01:29.11 | Nyle | undercover? |
| 01:29.22 | dvs | Nyle: you finally "sobered up"? |
| 01:29.25 | peterS | apparently he isn't stoned at the moment? |
| 01:29.31 | Nyle | shifty: install xchat and xchat-common |
| 01:29.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | Palish, there also used to be a constraint on where the MBR/bootsector could load the system from, which is why on many systems there is a small /boot partition, which is put at the beginning of the disk |
| 01:29.43 | Nyle | yeh |
| 01:29.46 | shifty | i want the newest version |
| 01:29.47 | Nyle | it is Ramadan |
| 01:29.51 | Vulto | How is debian dealing with multiple processors? |
| 01:29.51 | Nyle | I am fasting |
| 01:29.59 | Supaplex | !smp |
| 01:29.59 | dpkg | i heard smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMP-HOWTO.html, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing |
| 01:30.08 | dvs | Nyle: but that isn't exactly "eating" now is it? ;-) |
| 01:30.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Nyle, I am feasting :) |
| 01:30.14 | Nyle | heh |
| 01:30.19 | geo-rge | Supaplex: or /msg dpkg smp |
| 01:30.22 | dvs | Nyle: and it's night now. |
| 01:30.22 | peterS | Nyle: it is also after dark |
| 01:30.32 | Nyle | well yes, I've already broken my fast |
| 01:30.36 | Supaplex | geo-rge: or !tell Vulto -about smp |
| 01:30.36 | Nyle | 7:15 today |
| 01:30.39 | Nyle | 1:16 tomorrow |
| 01:30.42 | Nyle | 7:16* |
| 01:30.58 | peterS | so you can have teh grapes and teh bredz and teh sexors |
| 01:31.00 | shifty | can some one tell me how i can install gtk2 that xchat works? |
| 01:31.04 | Nyle | peterS: hehe |
| 01:31.04 | geo-rge | Supaplex: yes, or "Vulto: /msg dpkg smp" |
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| 01:31.28 | Nyle | peterS: nah bro, just some snacks and cold drinks to break the fast with, and then later dinner |
| 01:31.29 | Palish | Sorry.. Should a swap partition be "Primary" or "Logical"? |
| 01:31.35 | Nyle | Palish: doesn't matter |
| 01:31.39 | chuck | what's the command prefix for dpkg? |
| 01:31.43 | Palish | okay.. I don't understand the option. |
| 01:31.45 | Nyle | Palish: in fact, you don't even have to have a swap partition |
| 01:31.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | Palish, these might all not be good reasons for *you* to split it...I'm using a system with just one partition without problems for ages |
| 01:31.47 | amphi | shifty: perhaps you should just use the packaged version |
| 01:31.50 | geo-rge | Palish: primary would probably be faster |
| 01:31.58 | peterS | no, it wouldn't, they're the same |
| 01:32.04 | geo-rge | but there are only four primary partitions on the drive |
| 01:32.09 | shifty | ok, no help here :( |
| 01:32.10 | peterS | the difference is historical, based on the layout of an MS-DOS partition table |
| 01:32.26 | peterS | the only reason it matters _now_ is really just for booting and installing OSes |
| 01:32.27 | chuck | !apxs |
| 01:32.27 | spx2 | god this IZ coooooooooool |
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| 01:32.32 | Palish | okay. Does it matter which order I create the partitions in? |
| 01:32.35 | spx2 | "everywhere like such as ..." |
| 01:32.46 | Nyle | is it sunday already |
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| 01:32.48 | Nyle | i think so |
| 01:32.49 | peterS | Palish: not really |
| 01:32.49 | dvs | Palish: it depends how old your computer is. |
| 01:32.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | shifty, aptitude install xchat? |
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| 01:33.00 | geo-rge | peterS: is it not more sector accesses for a sector in a logical partition? |
| 01:33.02 | Palish | CutMeOwnThroat: Yeah :) I have a nice little debian box to mess around with, so it's sort of a learning experiment for me |
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| 01:33.26 | marco_polo | hi all |
| 01:33.31 | shifty | i want to compile it |
| 01:33.43 | Palish | dvs: It's an Etch install, with a fairily recent (120GB) harddrive. I was going to create a 3.0GB swap partition first, then use the rest for the other. |
| 01:33.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | Palish, I kind of prefer that, because my machines with several partitions had the tendency to fill up one of the partitions, while there was space on the other ones :) |
| 01:33.47 | peterS | geo-rge: the kernel figures out the partition table _once_. looking up where the logical drive starts requires a couple of accesses, but that only has to happen once. after that, it is just a simple number, how many sectors in does this partition start |
| 01:33.49 | marco_polo | which package do i need to have the svn command available ?? |
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| 01:34.04 | dvs | Palish: how old is your computer (motherboard, CPU) |
| 01:34.04 | peterS | marco_polo: subversion |
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| 01:34.17 | Vulto | geo-rge, the kernel that comes by default is this one with smp? |
| 01:34.39 | pab_ | Can someone verify for me that it's okay to uninstall apcid on a desktop machine? |
| 01:34.40 | marco_polo | ok thanks |
| 01:34.44 | geo-rge | that's fine... don;t set --prefix=/usr tho, unless you -want- trouble from the package database for and on your macnine |
| 01:34.49 | shifty | k g2g cya |
| 01:34.51 | marco_polo | just another question |
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| 01:35.11 | marco_polo | can i download an entire directory using wget via http ? |
| 01:35.16 | geo-rge | Vulto: probably no... but the default kernel should run, and you can install another |
| 01:35.18 | abrotman | pab_: sure it is .. it will just stop doing acpi functions |
| 01:35.21 | marco_polo | which options should i apply |
| 01:35.30 | marco_polo | cause after reading the entire doc |
| 01:35.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | !pat pab_ |
| 01:35.41 | marco_polo | i still have problems with that ! |
| 01:35.42 | peterS | marco_polo: if the directory index lists all the files, then yes, wget has such options. if not, then there is no way to determine through the HTTP protocol what the contents of the directory are |
| 01:36.32 | geo-rge | marco_polo: wget is not really for directories, but it can have that effect |
| 01:36.48 | marco_polo | yes i see ! |
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| 01:37.13 | geo-rge | rsync is -probably- better for that |
| 01:37.16 | marco_polo | if the listing is not supported by server, i have just one file : index.html |
| 01:37.19 | marco_polo | tahnks |
| 01:37.22 | marco_polo | ;-) |
| 01:37.22 | eraton | I can't instal Debian. |
| 01:37.30 | geo-rge | but I havent' had really good luck with rsync |
| 01:37.44 | Nyle | eraton: why not |
| 01:37.53 | peterS | rsync is da bomb, when available. you have to have access to it on the server though |
| 01:38.05 | geo-rge | that doesn't mean anything tho; I found the options overly complex |
| 01:38.19 | eraton | It keeps hanging in the middle of installing. |
| 01:38.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | Nyle, *raises hand* me, me! --> he hasnt got a debian cd! |
| 01:38.28 | peterS | -a is the most important option - "archive mode" - turns on several other options that make it into "basically just mirror that dir" |
| 01:38.30 | Nyle | ok |
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| 01:38.33 | Nyle | so download it |
| 01:38.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | Nyle, was just kidding |
| 01:38.46 | Nyle | why? |
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| 01:39.59 | chuck | hi, i installed apache2-dev, but the suphp configure script is still telling me that apxs wasn't found. any ideas why? |
| 01:40.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | couldnt resist, I guess... seemed so typical a non-question |
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| 01:41.34 | utopia_ | chuck, #apache might have an idea why |
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| 01:43.01 | Vulto | geo-rge you mean install a kernel on kernel.org or it should be in repositories of debian |
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| 01:43.29 | chuck | utopia_: 1. they aren't all that helpful and 2. i was thinking i would ask debian because it regards the debian repo |
| 01:44.19 | abrotman | !find apxs etch |
| 01:44.19 | utopia_ | chuck, maybe wait til tomorrow and ask #apache then..i found em helpful :) |
| 01:44.20 | digijohn | so is vlc not available in lenny or something? It says there's no installation candidate |
| 01:44.24 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'apxs' (4 of 6): (/usr/bin/{apxs|apxs-perl|apxs-ssl}) in devel/apache-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/apache-doc/manual/programs/apxs.html) in doc/apache-doc ;; (/usr/bin/apxs2) in devel/apache2-prefork-dev,devel/apache2-threaded-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/libapache-request-perl/examples/c/testapreq/Makefile.apxs) in perl/libapache-request-perl. |
| 01:44.58 | abrotman | digijohn: that's right |
| 01:45.09 | digijohn | abrotman: what happened? |
| 01:45.10 | peterS | apache2-prefork-dev is usually what you want for that |
| 01:45.39 | xaque | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5464925144369700635&q=history+of+hacking&total=81&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 |
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| 01:45.58 | peterS | chuck: the configure script might be looking for apxs but not apxs2. because we formerly supported both apache and apache2 (won't be true in the future), we made a distinction between the names |
| 01:46.03 | chuck | peterS: i *think* that apache2-dev includes that |
| 01:46.10 | chuck | oh |
| 01:46.27 | chuck | okay well it compiled so we'll see if it works |
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| 01:47.01 | peterS | (actually when I said "we" there I didn't really mean "we", I wasn't part of the debian apache team at that time) |
| 01:47.04 | abrotman | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 01:47.04 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 01:47.11 | simonrvn | !test |
| 01:47.11 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 01:47.16 | abrotman | digijohn: if you want a stable system .. use stable |
| 01:47.33 | dvs | abrotman: but that's so counter intuitive. |
| 01:47.39 | abrotman | lies! |
| 01:48.31 | jetscreamer | there are no lies |
| 01:48.52 | chuck | okay now i'm making progress |
| 01:50.09 | chuck | and the damn thing is *still* checking document roots |
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| 01:53.35 | Administrator | My soundblaster live won't unmute... no matter what I do to the mixer, the signal is so low I have to turn my amplifier to +100 db to hear anythnig at all :( |
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| 01:53.42 | Klick | s |
| 01:53.53 | pipeline | hurr that's what I get for a poorly named user-level account. |
| 01:54.08 | pipeline | the point is, I upgrade to 2.6.22-2, and all of a sudden I can't unmute my emu10k |
| 01:54.28 | pipeline | is OSS no longer available? (Because clearly ALSA isn't working for me.) |
| 01:54.46 | Nyle | jetscreamer: y;o |
| 01:55.22 | jetscreamer | hey dude |
| 01:55.26 | jetscreamer | wassup |
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| 01:56.01 | pipeline | ? |
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| 01:57.19 | MasterGH | Hey, could someone point me to an updated search plugin for Iceweasel for the new debian packages system? |
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| 01:57.59 | chuck | THANK THE GOOD LORD, MY WEBSERVER IS FINALLY WORKING |
| 01:58.02 | chuck | lol |
| 01:58.07 | simonrvn | !tell pipeline -about root |
| 01:58.37 | pipeline | simonrvn: be nice |
| 01:58.42 | chuck | !root |
| 01:58.42 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 01:58.57 | pipeline | Administrator:x:1001:1001:,,,:/home/Administrator:/bin/tcsh |
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| 01:59.02 | pipeline | :P |
| 01:59.06 | simonrvn | ok ok |
| 01:59.14 | chuck | duh |
| 01:59.21 | geo-rge | Vulto: you don't have to build your own kernel (at least in 85% of cases; the debian kernel binaries have most of what you need) |
| 01:59.24 | simonrvn | i assumed that was from a winblows box |
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| 01:59.49 | chuck | simonrvn: /ctcp pipeline VERSION |
| 02:00.00 | geo-rge | Vulto: so you can get linux-image packages which are precompiled kernels with modules, the config file, infrastructure |
| 02:00.01 | simonrvn | ... |
| 02:00.05 | simonrvn | chuck: moron |
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| 02:00.36 | MasterGH | enjoying pinging me chuck? |
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| 02:02.08 | militant | hi folks. i'd google for this but i can't get into X in the first place. new motherboard, has a via vga chip that i have to use for now. can't get x11 to work quite right |
| 02:02.43 | geo-rge | * Received a CTCP PING from chuck (to #debian) |
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| 02:03.04 | geo-rge | I'll be assuming that's at least a channel issue |
| 02:04.22 | simonrvn | yeh look up a few lines |
| 02:04.52 | simonrvn | it's saturday, we start getting the morons |
| 02:05.16 | chuck | ... |
| 02:05.22 | militant | it's a k8t890 via on an msi board. i can't get x to behave at all, the generic 'via' server doesn't work |
| 02:05.28 | chuck | all i did was ping the channel, life goes on, doesn't it? |
| 02:05.37 | simonrvn | prove it to me otherwise i'll even take back calling you one |
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| 02:06.07 | peterS | chuck: some people's clients get an alert when they get pinged. you just did that to, potentially, 800 people. so don't. |
| 02:06.11 | chuck | simonrvn: i got suphp working? lol |
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| 02:06.35 | MasterGH | I got versioned and pinged |
| 02:06.39 | chuck | actually, 775 (potentially of course) |
| 02:06.51 | chuck | MasterGH: and I got timed, you don't see me bitching |
| 02:07.10 | MasterGH | hehe, was seeing how late it was there :) I never complained |
| 02:07.11 | simonrvn | difference is you did it to several hundred people |
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| 02:09.56 | chuck | i'm so glad suphp is working, i can now rest easier now that my user's scripts (php ones, at least) aren't running under the same user |
| 02:10.09 | simonrvn | good for you |
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| 02:10.16 | fsmunoz | cheers |
| 02:11.35 | chuck | now to get suexec working |
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| 02:14.39 | MasterGH | Nvm about the search plugin, made one myself |
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| 02:15.37 | Nyle | good |
| 02:15.39 | Nyle | good |
| 02:16.21 | c0rnd0g | now we got this fscking problem: :( http://www.sho.com/site/lword/season4/images/episodes/125208.jpg |
| 02:16.25 | iscool | hi |
| 02:16.42 | c0rnd0g | oops wrong chan |
| 02:16.43 | c0rnd0g | win 5 |
| 02:16.52 | Nyle | cr0ndog |
| 02:17.16 | iscool | i need info about desblock of the user sistem navigator in mode root |
| 02:17.43 | iscool | ??? who can respond me |
| 02:18.32 | geo-rge | iscool: /msg dpkg ask |
| 02:18.38 | geo-rge | and /msg dpkg sicco |
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| 02:19.19 | iscool | mm i need confi that the ntfs |
| 02:19.37 | nicsdf | debian linux sux windows xp is better i am fat man u can see video of my 400 pound supreme fatness at my website www.fat-man.org |
| 02:19.53 | chuck | !ops nicsdf |
| 02:19.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: chuck complains about: nicsdf |
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| 02:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@c-75-68-207-148.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] by peterS |
| 02:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [-o peterS] by peterS |
| 02:20.02 | iscool | in the gksudo gedit /etc/fsstab i need comands |
| 02:20.04 | peterS | good call, chuck |
| 02:20.14 | chuck | record time, eh? |
| 02:20.33 | peterS | hmmm, took 23 seconds, I don't think that's a record |
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| 02:20.45 | chuck | 23 seconds? |
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| 02:21.04 | chuck | i must be lagging |
| 02:21.09 | iscool | gksudo gedit /etc/fsstab |
| 02:21.21 | peterS | no, you got your alert out earlier, but that's the amount of time it took me to ban him |
| 02:21.27 | Nyle | hey |
| 02:21.31 | iscool | hey |
| 02:21.35 | Nyle | peterS: ban that stoned guy |
| 02:21.36 | Nyle | ;) |
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| 02:21.45 | Nyle | he is a tool |
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| 02:21.52 | chuck | Nyle: he did ban him lol |
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| 02:22.03 | peterS | chuck: no, Nyle is referring to someone else |
| 02:22.19 | iscool | please speak me about info of configure this directory gksudo gedit /etc/fsstab |
| 02:22.21 | chuck | oh |
| 02:22.27 | iscool | for use the ntfs |
| 02:22.30 | Nyle | peterS: you wouldn't believe what happened to menight before last |
| 02:22.39 | Nyle | peterS: someone stole my license plates off my car |
| 02:22.57 | peterS | Nyle: now why would they do a thing like that? |
| 02:22.59 | Nyle | thankfully it only took 15 minutes to file a police report |
| 02:23.21 | Nyle | peterS: I dunno, to rob a bank or do something illegal |
| 02:23.27 | peterS | wow, nicsdf has some issues. I won't paste his private messages here, that wouldn't be nice ... but. |
| 02:23.35 | Nyle | peterS: awe |
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| 02:23.41 | Nyle | humor us? |
| 02:24.04 | chuck | peterS: that's very nice |
| 02:24.12 | peterS | hmmmm |
| 02:24.22 | iscool | mmmmmmmmmmmm heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy i need respond of my question |
| 02:24.23 | peterS | perhaps his best line was "u r a retard" |
| 02:24.42 | peterS | anyway ... gf showed up, we're going out ... catch you guys later, like on an actual Sunday |
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| 02:25.04 | Nyle | take her easy buddy |
| 02:25.08 | peterS | heh |
| 02:25.12 | Nyle | hah |
| 02:25.14 | geo-rge | ohly a few hours left |
| 02:25.18 | Nyle | no puns intended |
| 02:25.20 | Nyle | lol |
| 02:25.48 | Nyle | ahh he left already, i said lol so maybe peterS could do the little lol guy |
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| 02:27.10 | simonrvn | chuck: ok, i take it back. just because |
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| 02:27.18 | chuck | simonrvn: aww thanks |
| 02:27.21 | chuck | :P |
| 02:27.52 | iscool | hey guys thk for nothing |
| 02:27.54 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 02:28.11 | simonrvn | iscool: isnot, and you're very welcome |
| 02:28.49 | geo-rge | iscool: next time ask in a way that actually -helps- |
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| 02:29.33 | iscool | .... i need config that ntf |
| 02:29.37 | iscool | ntfs |
| 02:29.41 | iscool | in mode root |
| 02:29.43 | iscool | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.47 | iscool | .... |
| 02:29.48 | iscool | Lol |
| 02:30.10 | geo-rge | iscool: /msg dpkg ask and /msg dpkg cooperation in asking for help |
| 02:30.51 | abrotman | throw in an 'enter' too |
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| 02:31.01 | geo-rge | ent |
| 02:31.01 | geo-rge | er |
| 02:31.09 | geo-rge | oh, I see :) |
| 02:31.20 | simonrvn | i |
| 02:31.21 | simonrvn | talk |
| 02:31.25 | simonrvn | like this |
| 02:31.29 | simonrvn | you know? |
| 02:31.32 | geo-rge | iscool: /msg dpkg enter |
| 02:31.35 | geo-rge | me |
| 02:31.38 | geo-rge | talk pretty |
| 02:31.41 | geo-rge | someday... |
| 02:32.18 | ee99ee | I was installing a package that uses Python... when installing a dependent package, python-newt, I got an error... |
| 02:32.20 | simonrvn | WHY IS THIS STUPID THING SCANNING NFS? |
| 02:32.26 | ee99ee | I really don't know what it means -- could someone review and give me your input? http://pastebin.ca/699133 |
| 02:33.24 | geo-rge | hmm, python tracebacks I guess |
| 02:33.31 | ee99ee | wtf is that? |
| 02:33.47 | geo-rge | python is a scripting language |
| 02:33.54 | ee99ee | yeah |
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| 02:34.33 | abrotman | i bet it's a bug on python-central! |
| 02:34.58 | ee99ee | what is python-central |
| 02:35.07 | geo-rge | a traceback is kinda like remembering why you walked from the bathroom from your computer, then remembering why you got up from the toilet, then remembering why you were thinking of getting up from the toilet, then remembering what to do after you flush and wipe |
| 02:35.30 | MasterGH | lol |
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| 02:37.30 | geo-rge | and having all those rememberings in a list so you can see what you were thinking around the time you fell off your computer chair |
| 02:37.50 | ee99ee | that actually happens sometimes -- my "computer chair" is a big blue exercise ball |
| 02:38.00 | ee99ee | either way, what can I do to fix this |
| 02:38.26 | geo-rge | not sure, this is actually the first time I've seen python show a traceback :) |
| 02:39.02 | geo-rge | and I'm guessing when I assume that the traceback came from python |
| 02:39.13 | ee99ee | hmm well thanks for the help, I'll try python |
| 02:39.39 | geo-rge | abrotman might have more info, dunno |
| 02:39.50 | abrotman | i do ? |
| 02:39.57 | abrotman | bugs.debian.org/python-central |
| 02:40.06 | geo-rge | I dunno :) you do? |
| 02:40.19 | geo-rge | ee99ee: take a look at that url |
| 02:40.25 | ee99ee | yup, there now -- thanks |
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| 02:41.08 | geo-rge | btw, what version are you running? |
| 02:41.30 | ee99ee | deb 4.0 |
| 02:41.53 | geo-rge | ok, and what is this thing you're installing... |
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| 02:42.10 | Azar | hello honorables! |
| 02:42.15 | geo-rge | "I was installing a package that uses Python" |
| 02:42.18 | ee99ee | I think it was rtorrent |
| 02:42.21 | geo-rge | what package |
| 02:42.45 | ee99ee | it's been a few days... I was installing something else and it tried to reconfigure the python package that failed again and spewed that error |
| 02:43.02 | geo-rge | could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 02:43.29 | ee99ee | there is only one: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 02:43.50 | geo-rge | debian is pretty sensitive to versions |
| 02:44.14 | Azar | ee99ee: you were using apt-get install? |
| 02:44.23 | geo-rge | if that's all you have that should be ok |
| 02:44.40 | ee99ee | Azar: I was in this case, just to see which package it was |
| 02:45.00 | Azar | ee99ee: you allways can preview with apt-cache search |
| 02:45.03 | ee99ee | prior I was using dselect |
| 02:45.23 | jamesrdorn | sorry for the bother, has anyone have a clue where I might be able to find the sources for libstartup-notification higher than 0.7? |
| 02:45.25 | ee99ee | Azar: nice! |
| 02:45.27 | geo-rge | are you glad you're not using it anymore? :) |
| 02:45.37 | jamesrdorn | trying to build compiz |
| 02:45.52 | ee99ee | yeah, I haven't used debian in years... that was the tool of choice back then... screw dselect :-) |
| 02:46.12 | geo-rge | dselect + apt-get was ok |
| 02:46.29 | geo-rge | but dselect without was pure hell |
| 02:46.40 | ee99ee | well, here we are: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=418233 |
| 02:46.59 | Azar | jamesrdorn: your debian version is .. ? |
| 02:47.44 | jamesrdorn | 4.0r1 |
| 02:47.46 | geo-rge | ee99ee: the bottom of the report shows that he tried commenting some lines in a file and it worked |
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| 02:48.01 | jamesrdorn | kernel 2.6.18-4 |
| 02:48.28 | Azar | jamesrdorn: if the version of a package you want is not in the Debian 4.0 repositories, try using a simple sid backports |
| 02:48.56 | wooden | Does Debian's build of vim not support colors on the console? |
| 02:49.04 | Azar | jamesrdorn: read on google about the package you need see if works with your kernel version -- as well |
| 02:49.28 | ee99ee | geo-rge: thanks for pointing that out, i missed it... what is pycentral and where do I find the file |
| 02:49.42 | geo-rge | I don't know :) |
| 02:49.43 | Azar | wooden: I guess it does, just try vimtutor or man vim to see if there is any specification |
| 02:49.49 | simonrvn | wooden: sure it does |
| 02:49.57 | jamesrdorn | Azar: have been for a while, I cant even find the maintainer of the lib |
| 02:50.01 | Azar | :) good evening mister simonrvn |
| 02:50.07 | jamesrdorn | Azar: thanks, ill keep looking |
| 02:50.08 | simonrvn | hi Azar |
| 02:50.10 | geo-rge | you should be able to find it tho, you probably have the involved package installed |
| 02:50.42 | wooden | I'm putty'd into a Deb box using my regular .vimrc and xterm16.vim colorscheme and it's not working. |
| 02:50.52 | geo-rge | oh, /usr/bin/pycentral |
| 02:51.01 | abrotman | wooden: :syntax on ? |
| 02:51.15 | Azar | hello mister abrotman :P |
| 02:51.20 | wooden | syntax on is in my .vimrc, yes. |
| 02:51.20 | abrotman | jo |
| 02:51.22 | abrotman | hi |
| 02:51.29 | simonrvn | hi abrotman |
| 02:51.31 | abrotman | wooden: is it vim or vim.tiny ? |
| 02:51.36 | abrotman | hi simonrvn |
| 02:51.50 | wooden | Ach. |
| 02:51.52 | wooden | Got it. |
| 02:52.03 | wooden | Thanks. |
| 02:52.24 | Nyle | Azar: 1 |
| 02:53.46 | Nyle | !ping |
| 02:53.46 | dpkg | pong |
| 02:54.10 | spx2 | Ive just tried to use ps -p to get all pids |
| 02:54.14 | spx2 | and got error instead |
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| 02:55.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | !pong |
| 02:55.07 | dpkg | rumour has it, pong is the best name on IRC eg. /ping pong, or *the* classic video game |
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| 02:56.05 | mesof2 | any java-plugin yet for amd64? |
| 02:56.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | why did I know this wouldhappen? :) |
| 02:56.19 | chuck | already registered and in use |
| 02:56.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops |
| 02:56.25 | spx2 | I can't seem to be abel to use |
| 02:56.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | ehe |
| 02:56.31 | spx2 | cut -d' ' -f1 |
| 02:56.34 | spx2 | with success.. |
| 02:56.36 | Nyle | mesof2: no |
| 02:56.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | but so how could you switch? |
| 02:56.38 | spx2 | it fails me |
| 02:56.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | if it's in use? |
| 02:56.59 | chuck | CutMeOwnThroat: by in use, i mean that the nickname isn't old enough to be dropped yet |
| 02:57.04 | mesof2 | what can i track quotes with? linuxtrader has stopped connecting |
| 02:57.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok |
| 02:57.22 | abrotman | mesof2: freshmeat.net |
| 02:57.30 | spx2 | mesof2: | grep \" ? |
| 02:57.50 | chuck | MySims for wii looks awesome |
| 02:57.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | chuck, nice to see that you without a 2nd thought follow the suggestions of dpkg *g* ("... the best nick..." -> "I must get that one") |
| 02:58.11 | chuck | lol |
| 02:58.21 | chuck | dpkg == my bible |
| 02:58.32 | mesof2 | spx2: grep \ does nothing |
| 02:58.41 | mesof2 | and | grep \ says bash error |
| 02:58.48 | spx2 | mesof2: what do you want to do ? |
| 02:59.04 | mesof2 | become rich! |
| 02:59.12 | mesof2 | hah, no, uh i want to get linuxtrade working |
| 02:59.34 | mesof2 | it won't connect and i cant get any of the windows quote trackers to track quotes because they won't connect |
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| 02:59.44 | mesof2 | and i can't use the java streamers because i'm on amd64 |
| 02:59.58 | chuck | i love the new ipods |
| 02:59.58 | benluo | hi |
| 03:00.14 | benluo | who use dovecot in testing? |
| 03:00.22 | chuck | i can't decide whether to get an ipod classic, an ipod touch, an iphone, a digital camera, or a camcorder for xmas |
| 03:00.24 | Thyme | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
| 03:00.31 | benluo | i want to know if it has sieve plugin. |
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| 03:00.45 | chuck | !ops Thyme |
| 03:00.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: chuck complains about: Thyme |
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| 03:00.54 | chuck | nevermind then |
| 03:01.01 | mesof2 | linuxtrade, hm, it just stopped working |
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| 03:01.05 | mesof2 | won't connect so to say |
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| 03:02.29 | spx2 | wtf is linuxtrade ? |
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| 03:03.01 | mesof2 | a stock quote tracker |
| 03:03.12 | mesof2 | like a streamer to track stock prices |
| 03:03.17 | ee99ee | geo-rge: well, that worked... thank you so much! |
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| 03:03.45 | spx2 | mesof2: so what can you do if it doesn't work? |
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| 03:04.02 | mesof2 | try to figure out how to fix it, or use a wine app to do the same |
| 03:04.03 | ee99ee | now, however I have another problem w/ anothe package that was queued up: http://pastebin.ca/699153 |
| 03:05.03 | mesof2 | of course like 1% of linux users probably trade |
| 03:05.24 | mesof2 | and like linux users are like 1% of the worlds population |
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| 03:05.59 | mesof2 | so my options are to wait for a java plugin or get the wine working, or fix linuxtrade, which nobody knows how to do |
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| 03:11.09 | Azar | hey, Nyle ! :) |
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| 03:12.17 | Azar | so guys will Debian gonna have the AMD/ATI driver now that they released source? |
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| 03:12.58 | chuck | Azar: is the source under a license like GPL? |
| 03:13.22 | Azar | chuck: for now is just a release with no NDA.. |
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| 03:13.42 | chuck | Azar: hmm i'm not sure |
| 03:13.59 | Azar | chuck: maybe they gonna take the source and do something about it... |
| 03:14.04 | SeSSiZ_erkek | hello! |
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| 03:15.55 | chuck | Azar: my guess is no until they release it under like GPL or something |
| 03:16.27 | Azar | chuck: I guess the 2D version could go on GPL |
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| 03:17.31 | abrotman | Azar: when the driver is written |
| 03:17.31 | Azar | chuck: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=838&num=1 |
| 03:17.41 | Thurin1 | Is compiling my own Kernel worth the trouble? Like will removing the parts which I do not use, and will never use, equal a speed increase.. a noticeable one? :) |
| 03:17.46 | abrotman | no |
| 03:17.49 | Azar | abrotman: by the Debian developers? |
| 03:18.00 | abrotman | why |
| 03:18.15 | Azar | why >to me? |
| 03:18.50 | Azar | because, Debian developers write better :) |
| 03:18.57 | czeroX | im trying to use fluxbox for the first time and all i see it's just the four destops and my time, how do i start running app? |
| 03:19.16 | Thurin1 | czeroX, right click |
| 03:19.16 | czeroX | * desktops |
| 03:19.19 | abrotman | whatever |
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| 03:19.32 | chuck | Azar: i'm really not sure, but i'm very sure that it will be in non-free or another repo for you to download and install |
| 03:19.38 | Thurin1 | A right click should bring up your menu czeroX |
| 03:19.54 | czeroX | yeah i right clicked it and all i have its fluxbox nothing else..., any guides on the web for begginers? |
| 03:19.57 | Azar | chuck: no big change, that's how is done now |
| 03:20.08 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:20.10 | Azar | czeroX: missing menus |
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| 03:20.37 | Thurin1 | czeroX, if your on debian you may wish to drop to console run 'menu' and then restart fluxbox see if that helps. |
| 03:21.23 | czeroX | ok Thurin1, ill try that, but i think im missing menus :P |
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| 03:24.16 | chuck | it's just you and me dpkg |
| 03:25.27 | Azar | hehe http://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200709/error'd/resolution.jpg |
| 03:25.45 | chuck | lol |
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| 03:27.08 | simmerz | what package do I need to install to stop dpkg giving me errors about insecure packages? |
| 03:27.45 | jetscreamer | the key |
| 03:27.51 | Azar | makes you feel bad with the hand in the jar ain't it? |
| 03:27.53 | dendrite | simmerz: debian-keyring? |
| 03:27.55 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search keyring |
| 03:28.00 | jetscreamer | /topic? |
| 03:28.15 | Nyle | what |
| 03:28.20 | Azar | yo bro! |
| 03:28.25 | jetscreamer | who |
| 03:28.26 | Nyle | one time I got my hand stuck in the cookie jar |
| 03:28.29 | simmerz | yep, that would be it |
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| 03:28.51 | Azar | my cat got stuck its head in the cookie jar |
| 03:28.56 | Nyle | ow |
| 03:29.02 | ameyer | stupid pussy |
| 03:29.14 | Nyle | :: |
| 03:29.42 | ameyer | seriously, how do you get your head stuck in a cookie jar? |
| 03:29.49 | Azar | gotta love system upgrades at work: everything gets done offline |
| 03:30.02 | ameyer | even a cat should know better... |
| 03:30.11 | Azar | ameyer: you know the saying with the curiosity kills the cat |
| 03:30.35 | ameyer | indeed |
| 03:30.45 | Azar | cat didn't die but I paid $50.00 the vet to get its head out of the jar |
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| 03:31.04 | dendrite | Azar: Hell, I'd a sold you a hammer for HALF that!! =) |
| 03:31.11 | Azar | hey the win32 installer officially done! |
| 03:31.26 | Azar | err the win32 loader |
| 03:31.40 | ameyer | software is never "done" |
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| 03:31.48 | ameyer | until it's abandoned |
| 03:31.49 | jamesrdorn | lmao dendrite |
| 03:32.32 | Azar | After a long process of review and polishing, the win32 loader from goodbye-microsoft.com has finally made its way to official Debian CDs. |
| 03:32.37 | czeroX | how do i run a webpage from the shell? |
| 03:32.53 | Azar | czeroX: links or lynx |
| 03:32.54 | geo-rge | to run you need legs |
| 03:32.57 | supaman | czeroX: use lynx or w3m |
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| 03:33.15 | ameyer | or links or elinks or links2 |
| 03:33.23 | dendrite | or telnet |
| 03:33.33 | ameyer | that'd work too |
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| 03:33.39 | Azar | meh telnet should be taken out already |
| 03:33.42 | ameyer | not for https though |
| 03:33.49 | ameyer | Azar: telnet has its uses |
| 03:34.01 | Azar | ameyer: not for simple users |
| 03:34.12 | czeroX | cool |
| 03:34.14 | Nyle | http://www.festo.com/INetDomino/coorp_sites/en/1e70ac4a67fcfb11c12572d0004d3d44.htm |
| 03:34.20 | ameyer | like, encryption isn't needed over localhost, and it's useful for diagnostic purposes |
| 03:34.22 | Nyle | check this out |
| 03:34.24 | Nyle | this is amazing |
| 03:34.29 | czeroX | i just opened a page on the shell, rare |
| 03:34.36 | chronographer | Hi all. I have changed to a new ips and have unlimited dl's from midnight to midday, I owuld like to set up a bittorent client to run between these hours automatically (automagically) I use either transmission or deluge, and I guess a crom job would be suited? I have no experience with this, anyone know a good howto or have a better suggestion? |
| 03:34.37 | Nyle | air powered robotic arm that can write |
| 03:34.57 | abrotman | man cron |
| 03:35.01 | dendrite | czeroX: Not all that rare. That's a very good way to test to make sure pages are reasonably accessable to readers. |
| 03:35.08 | chronographer | ok sure. |
| 03:35.11 | Azar | Nyle: eh "click here to download plugin" neeehh |
| 03:35.23 | Nyle | ni |
| 03:35.25 | czeroX | i dont know why the fluxbox has no meny, im using the blackbox one |
| 03:35.30 | Nyle | ni ni ni |
| 03:35.35 | Azar | hehehe |
| 03:35.35 | Nyle | !ni |
| 03:35.36 | dpkg | ni is Nicaragua; 2-letter: ni; 3-letter: nic; number: 558. Ekki ekki ekki ekki-z'Bang zoom-Boing z'nourrrwringmm |
| 03:35.39 | supaman | chronographer: http://www.deluxnetwork.com/linux/guides/crons.php |
| 03:35.43 | Azar | czeroX: tried openbox yet? |
| 03:36.00 | ameyer | chronographer: you could probably run a torrent client with a scheduler as well |
| 03:36.04 | czeroX | openbox? |
| 03:36.10 | Nyle | that is a good bionic arm |
| 03:36.20 | ameyer | although cron would probably be better suited to the task at hand |
| 03:36.21 | Azar | czeroX: yep that what I use for three years now |
| 03:36.24 | chronographer | cool thanks, deluge HAD a scheduler, but it doesn't work with recent client |
| 03:36.36 | chronographer | that bionic arm is kind a scary eh! |
| 03:36.40 | czeroX | is it good? |
| 03:36.44 | dendrite | chronographer: One cron job to start the thing, and one to stop it. Make sure your clock is right... |
| 03:36.49 | Azar | czeroX: for me yes, just try it |
| 03:36.57 | czeroX | i dont know all the commands to run applications |
| 03:36.58 | chronographer | ok great thx I will look at the deluge guide |
| 03:37.03 | czeroX | but i want to learn |
| 03:37.16 | czeroX | how do you change the theme? |
| 03:37.17 | Azar | czeroX: with openbox you only have to right click and all menu shows up |
| 03:37.28 | Azar | like say the windows startup |
| 03:37.31 | czeroX | is it on the debian page? |
| 03:37.41 | Azar | czeroX: apt-cache search openbox |
| 03:37.47 | Azar | if you see it: aptitude install openbox |
| 03:38.02 | Nyle | what is so special about openbox |
| 03:38.03 | Azar | remove the others tho.. |
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| 03:38.17 | Azar | Nyle: is clean, neat , light and good looking |
| 03:38.21 | Nyle | what are its distinguishing featues |
| 03:38.23 | ameyer | czeroX: are you sure you have no menu? |
| 03:38.24 | Nyle | oh |
| 03:38.32 | Nyle | I like kwin the best |
| 03:38.37 | Nyle | kde just plain kicks ass |
| 03:38.41 | ameyer | czeroX: have you tried right-clicking on the desktop |
| 03:38.58 | supaman | Nyle: YMMV |
| 03:39.01 | czeroX | yeah |
| 03:39.03 | dendrite | TWM all teh way, baby... |
| 03:39.04 | Nyle | what? |
| 03:39.13 | czeroX | but i just have xterm, restart, and exit |
| 03:39.19 | ameyer | Nyle: kde also is crashy and in unstable (for me) has keyboard issues after a few days... |
| 03:39.25 | supaman | Nyle: your milage may vary |
| 03:39.26 | dendrite | czeroX: run xterm. |
| 03:39.32 | ameyer | your mileage may vary |
| 03:39.34 | dendrite | and use that shell to type in commands... |
| 03:39.40 | Nyle | milage |
| 03:39.41 | czeroX | yeah i did and places what you just typed |
| 03:39.41 | Nyle | lol |
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| 03:39.54 | Azar | http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Getting_started |
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| 03:40.10 | czeroX | it tells me about docker, obconf, openbox, openbox-themes |
| 03:40.12 | Nyle | kde is fully stable 100% rock solid in amd64 |
| 03:40.15 | Nyle | unstable |
| 03:40.15 | czeroX | and pypanel |
| 03:40.23 | ameyer | not on i386... |
| 03:40.34 | Nyle | I've been running sid for close to 5 years and never any serious issues |
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| 03:40.59 | Nyle | yeh something breaks every now and again but its usually not hard to find a fix/workaround |
| 03:41.05 | Azar | czeroX: well how many software you got on to show in the menus? music player, games, openoffice ... and such? |
| 03:41.08 | Nyle | the bts is great |
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| 03:41.19 | abrotman | is menu-xdg installed ? |
| 03:41.20 | ameyer | and KDE's panel crashes with alarming regularity for me |
| 03:41.35 | ameyer | not that it's the end of the world when it happens |
| 03:41.45 | czeroX | show menus? |
| 03:41.48 | czeroX | where is that |
| 03:42.01 | Nyle | I just like the way kde works |
| 03:42.04 | Nyle | its great |
| 03:42.19 | ameyer | I prefer fluxbox |
| 03:42.39 | czeroX | do i type showmenus on xterm? |
| 03:42.46 | ameyer | of the "full-featured" environments, KDE is my favorite |
| 03:42.58 | dendrite | czeroX: Do you know what window manager you're in? |
| 03:43.21 | czeroX | here xterm running bitchx |
| 03:43.35 | czeroX | i have another one on xterm just blank |
| 03:43.44 | czeroX | and another running a page on xterm too |
| 03:44.02 | dendrite | czeroX: Well, if you right-click on the desktop and you only get options for xterm, restart, and exit, you may be missing out on some of the fun... |
| 03:44.02 | czeroX | this is hard but i like it :D |
| 03:44.07 | supaman | czeroX: window manager is not an xterm .. its the whole graphical user interface that runs the xterm which is the window manager :) |
| 03:44.11 | force | im having a weird problem with routing when i setup this bridge.. http://rafb.net/p/6QGuIZ74.html |
| 03:44.28 | czeroX | the session? |
| 03:44.34 | czeroX | on blackbox |
| 03:44.52 | chronographer | hey just a quick question, crontab has one line for each job right? not separate files for each job?> |
| 03:45.02 | supaman | czeroX: GNOME and KDE are desktops which run window managers ... blackbox, windowmaker and others are window managers ... |
| 03:45.20 | gryfie_ | hiho..... is it possible that the etch - expert-gui-installation don't offer an option to choose the kernel? |
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| 03:45.25 | Azar | czeroX: scroll down to Debian Menu here: http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Menus |
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| 03:45.47 | czeroX | ok |
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| 03:46.06 | abrotman | czeroX: is menu-xdg installed ? |
| 03:46.26 | abrotman | chronographer: you can do it different ways |
| 03:46.27 | supaman | chronographer: yes .. one line per job |
| 03:46.35 | czeroX | i dont think so |
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| 03:46.46 | chronographer | thanks |
| 03:46.48 | supaman | chronographer: but like abrotman says, there are other wyas |
| 03:46.49 | Azar | so install it |
| 03:46.57 | chronographer | one line sounds fine by me |
| 03:47.03 | abrotman | chronographer: see /etc/crontab for an example of how to use files per job |
| 03:47.08 | supaman | czeroX: dpkg -s menu-xdg to check if it is installed |
| 03:47.13 | chronographer | ok sure |
| 03:47.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | er |
| 03:47.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | !ping |
| 03:47.28 | dpkg | pong |
| 03:47.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | dead |
| 03:47.30 | abrotman | dpkg -l might work better .. but whatever |
| 03:47.30 | dpkg | No packages found matching might work better .. but whatever |
| 03:47.40 | Azar | hehe |
| 03:47.40 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: stop with the damn bot .. msg the thing if you want to play with it |
| 03:47.49 | czeroX | yeah it is |
| 03:47.55 | supaman | hehehe |
| 03:48.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, I did, but got no reaction |
| 03:48.08 | abrotman | czeroX: so right clicking on the desktop doesn't bring up a program menu at all ? |
| 03:48.13 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: great .. stop doing it here |
| 03:48.25 | czeroX | nope |
| 03:48.31 | czeroX | just xterm, restart, and exit |
| 03:48.34 | abrotman | czeroX: have you tried running update-menus ? |
| 03:48.43 | czeroX | let me do it |
| 03:48.44 | Azar | yeah! update-menus! |
| 03:48.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, stop being aggressive... I wondered if there is a way to restart the thing when it's broken |
| 03:48.59 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: stop being a tard .. and no .. you can't restart the bot |
| 03:49.07 | czeroX | i just did, and i have the same |
| 03:49.08 | Azar | abrotman is TEH best! |
| 03:49.28 | Azar | czeroX: exit X then startx and try again |
| 03:49.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, thanks for the abuse, then |
| 03:49.37 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: but it's okay for you to abuse the bot? |
| 03:49.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, I explained what happened? |
| 03:50.02 | abrotman | then just move on with your life .. |
| 03:50.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyways it would be hard to call it abuse anyways |
| 03:50.13 | geo-rge | CutMeOwnThroat: and likewise |
| 03:50.16 | abrotman | or go to #debian-bots .. tons of bots to abuse |
| 03:50.52 | czeroX | ok |
| 03:50.58 | czeroX | i just did |
| 03:51.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | so being called a tard is ok, but re-tard is not ok? |
| 03:51.01 | czeroX | let me check now |
| 03:51.53 | abrotman | czeroX: any different ? |
| 03:52.03 | czeroX | noup |
| 03:52.13 | czeroX | i dont know if i did it right |
| 03:52.18 | abrotman | czeroX: try another window manager .. see if it's your box or just fluxbox |
| 03:52.29 | czeroX | i had an xterm, typed exit X |
| 03:52.32 | Azar | czeroX: you are login as user and with access to programs? |
| 03:52.33 | geo-rge | CutMeOwnThroat: you were asked to not address the bot in public. why is this a problem to you? |
| 03:52.39 | czeroX | the opened a new one, and typed startx |
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| 03:52.53 | spacemnky | when i gnome starts the image on the screen flickers and is doubled (thats the best way to explain it). the resolution is 1600x1200 by default right now and i would like to set it to 1280x1024. what file do i edit to change the default resolution |
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| 03:53.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | geo-rge, it is not, but I do not like being called a retard, even in the form of "tard" - is that a problem to you? |
| 03:53.12 | abrotman | spacemnky: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 03:53.13 | czeroX | actually im not on fluxbox, im on blackbox |
| 03:53.25 | Azar | meh |
| 03:53.26 | czeroX | Azar: yes |
| 03:53.28 | geo-rge | does the shoe fit? |
| 03:53.30 | abrotman | czeroX: okay .. whichever .. try another window manager |
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| 03:53.47 | czeroX | and then? |
| 03:54.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | nope :) |
| 03:54.01 | abrotman | see if the menu system works at all in another window manager |
| 03:54.10 | supaman | spacemnky: you can also do it with a gnome only setting ... by going into system -> preferences -> screen resolution |
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| 03:54.52 | Arron | has anyone here got autofs to work? no matter what i do, it does not work |
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| 03:55.33 | supaman | Arron: be more specific then that ... what filesystem are you trying to mount? |
| 03:55.58 | czeroX | well actually i was using gnome, and everthing works fine |
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| 03:56.06 | Arron | any... i have tried vfat, ext3, joilet |
| 03:56.23 | supaman | Arron: ok .. what device is it? |
| 03:56.27 | Arron | it will make the dir like "misc" but then nothing in there |
| 03:56.31 | czeroX | but i wanna learn to use blackbox,openbox, or fluxbox |
| 03:56.33 | abrotman | maybe try trashing your .blackbox or .blackboxrc .. or move them .. let them reset to defaults |
| 03:56.44 | chronographer | one mopre question: Anyone know the command line operation to exit deluge? I suppose kill works, but its a bit brutal right? |
| 03:56.55 | Arron | supaman: primarly usb drive, but i have been testing with a usb stick and the cdrom as well |
| 03:57.01 | simonrvn | esp. if it's kill(all) -9 ... |
| 03:57.11 | czeroX | yeah, i was about to kill fluxbox and reinstall it |
| 03:57.29 | abrotman | i don't mean reinstall it .. i mean get rid of the conf files in your $HOME |
| 03:58.04 | czeroX | oh ok |
| 03:58.24 | czeroX | how do i get there? |
| 03:58.26 | geo-rge | CutMeOwnThroat: he didn't do that before he noticed that you aren't able to handle a fairly simple request |
| 03:58.41 | czeroX | sorry but im new on blackbox :S |
| 03:58.50 | simmerz | is there anywhere that tells me what packages are included in "tasksel install standard" without it installing them first? |
| 03:59.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | geo-rge, right.... like I kept talking to the bot during our small conversation? Pull the other one, it got bells on |
| 03:59.18 | simonrvn | is there a 'list' command to it? |
| 03:59.59 | supaman | Arron: I think stuff like this is handled by hal nowadays ... (you cant do that Dave) |
| 04:00.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | geo-rge, still, I suggest we end that here... |
| 04:00.31 | gryfie_ | just another question..... where is the right place to install software, that doesn't belong to the distribution? When using opt, I should add /opt/libs ... /opt/bin etc ?!? and add it to the paths? |
| 04:00.50 | geo-rge | CutMeOwnThroat: until the next time you abuse the bot? ok |
| 04:00.58 | simonrvn | "You can't do that Dave. Dave, what are you doing? Dave, I don't think that is a good idea Dave. I can feel it." |
| 04:01.01 | supaman | gryfie_: usually in debian it is /usr/local |
| 04:01.18 | Arron | supaman: hal.... thanks ill have to look it up |
| 04:01.19 | simonrvn | S&T |
| 04:01.21 | skype | Is there a list of how too |
| 04:01.30 | skype | Is there a list of how too's to fix sound in a program? |
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| 04:02.12 | supaman | simonrvn: a timeless classic ;) |
| 04:02.16 | geo-rge | skype: /msg dpkg ask |
| 04:02.22 | simonrvn | for sur |
| 04:02.24 | simonrvn | e |
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| 04:02.38 | simonrvn | i can do the voice pretty good to |
| 04:02.39 | simonrvn | o |
| 04:02.43 | supaman | skype: might try to the debian wiki ... wiki.debian.org |
| 04:02.46 | supaman | simonrvn: :) |
| 04:02.51 | skype | ty |
| 04:03.13 | V3NU5 | Hi can i know if fontconfig depend on some program and the names of this depend, im not at home and at home i do not have a internet acces |
| 04:03.24 | simonrvn | i bugged someone a couple of times that happens to go by 'Dave'. found it funny the first couple times ;) |
| 04:03.28 | geo-rge | welcome. now, howbout a -specific- question about -your- situation? |
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| 04:04.52 | rycar | how do I make an entry in /etc/init.d that will start up AFTER mysqld starts? |
| 04:05.16 | supaman | V3NU5: apt-cache fontconfig shows what packages fontconfig depends on |
| 04:05.37 | geo-rge | man init, look at /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 04:05.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | geo-rge, seems you can't leave it... |
| 04:06.05 | geo-rge | CutMeOwnThroat: likewise |
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| 04:06.35 | rycar | thanks geo-rge |
| 04:06.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | geo-rge, well, I got insulted, so I'm wound up - what's your excuse? :) |
| 04:06.47 | spacemnky | i'm installing samba and it is asking for my workgroup/domain name |
| 04:06.50 | spacemnky | what should i use? |
| 04:07.20 | geo-rge | CutMeOwnThroat: repeat after me: "NO ONE can insult me without me being open to it and therefore giving them permissions" |
| 04:07.37 | geo-rge | CutMeOwnThroat: in other words... be a man |
| 04:07.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | I am |
| 04:08.36 | geo-rge | CutMeOwnThroat: if you're insulted, it's only because you allow yourself to feel that way |
| 04:08.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | that does not answer the question |
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| 04:09.04 | czeroX | damn blackbox is hard... |
| 04:09.32 | supaman | czeroX: try #blackbox (if there is such a thing) |
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| 04:09.38 | geo-rge | the only answers to your questions are within yourself |
| 04:09.44 | czeroX | dont hate me :( |
| 04:09.48 | czeroX | im just new :P |
| 04:09.54 | supaman | czeroX: I dont ... I was once new also :) |
| 04:10.04 | V3NU5 | supaman my friend do not get linux here can you tell me the depends please |
| 04:10.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | geo-rge, ok, well, *I* read that as "I have none". Very well, just as much as I expected |
| 04:10.10 | force | im having a weird problem with routing when i setup this bridge.. http://rafb.net/p/6QGuIZ74.html |
| 04:10.20 | czeroX | no blackbox chan :( |
| 04:10.36 | hark | !tell V3NU5 about pdo |
| 04:10.38 | czeroX | but a fluxbox |
| 04:10.53 | V3NU5 | hark thanks! |
| 04:11.07 | geo-rge | CutMeOwnThroat: it's fairly evident I'm not qualified to treat you |
| 04:12.18 | czeroX | everyone iddle on fluxbox :( |
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| 04:14.26 | chronographer | could someone please help me to make a generic kill command for deluge, to use in crontab. ? |
| 04:14.43 | krazykit | killall deluge-torrent? |
| 04:15.11 | supaman | chronographer: do you want to kill deluge periodically by using crontab?? .. why not stop it from running in the first place? |
| 04:15.14 | chronographer | is that fairly good on the program? |
| 04:15.40 | krazykit | not really. i think you can pass stuff like SIGHUP and such with killall, though |
| 04:15.43 | chronographer | i want it to start at 24:00 and stop at 12:00 deluge has no command line'exit' so i want to kill it |
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| 04:15.49 | czeroX | supaman: where do i learn about commands for linux? |
| 04:16.07 | geo-rge | czeroX: man |
| 04:16.22 | geo-rge | among other ways/places |
| 04:16.29 | supaman | czeroX: you mean what commands are available at the command line? |
| 04:16.38 | supaman | czeroX: there are number of ways for that |
| 04:16.43 | czeroX | yeah |
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| 04:16.53 | czeroX | like running pages, programs, etc.. |
| 04:17.15 | ShakaGoldSaint | is it just me or pidgin just died on sid because of libpurple because of god only know what ? :P |
| 04:17.23 | supaman | czeroX: here is one http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml |
| 04:17.31 | geo-rge | you might start by looking around your system and noticing what is where |
| 04:17.49 | czeroX | you are very good persons ;) |
| 04:17.58 | czeroX | thanks, ill read that |
| 04:17.59 | chronographer | so is there a better way than killall deluge? |
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| 04:18.25 | chronographer | can I find its pid and use kill -TERM 'find deluge pid' or someting? |
| 04:18.33 | geo-rge | chronographer: what exactly are you trying to accomplish |
| 04:18.50 | chronographer | make cronjob to start and stop deluge |
| 04:18.51 | geo-rge | why do that when killall does that for you |
| 04:18.54 | Xenguy | chronographer: pkill ? |
| 04:19.06 | chronographer | pkill deluge? |
| 04:19.11 | Xenguy | chronographer: try it |
| 04:19.22 | simonrvn | ShakaGoldSaint: ENOPARSE |
| 04:19.39 | chronographer | doesn't work. killall will do |
| 04:19.50 | Xenguy | chronographer: use whatever works |
| 04:19.54 | chronographer | thanks everyone for the help |
| 04:20.02 | supaman | chronographer: killall might not do the trick .. to be absolutely sure use kill -9 deluge-torrent |
| 04:20.03 | ShakaGoldSaint | simonrvn, and by that you mean something like: omw stfu n00b blah blah blah ? xD |
| 04:20.12 | ShakaGoldSaint | i'm sorry my english suck a little |
| 04:20.16 | simonrvn | ShakaGoldSaint: no |
| 04:20.20 | hark | ShakaGoldSaint: that's sid for you |
| 04:20.22 | supaman | chronographer: but that might make the system unstable ... |
| 04:20.47 | chronographer | it needs a process or job ID |
| 04:20.54 | ee99ee | I haven't used debian in a while. Last time I used it, I don't recall the "expermential" branch. How is that different from unstable? |
| 04:21.01 | supaman | chronographer: ahh .. yes .. forgot that ;) |
| 04:21.16 | ee99ee | I thought unstable was what the package maintainer had just uploaded... how much more bleeding edge could it get? |
| 04:21.31 | czeroX | thanks for everything, ill be back tomorrow |
| 04:21.41 | hark | ShakaGoldSaint: file a bug report |
| 04:23.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | ee99ee, unstable are packages that supposedly work, experimental ones, that supposedly make problems - or /msg dpkg experimental |
| 04:23.51 | ee99ee | ahh, thanks |
| 04:24.23 | simonrvn | sid's stuff is very much beta; expect breakage, and *you* are expected to file bug reports |
| 04:24.34 | ee99ee | indeed |
| 04:24.58 | simonrvn | experimental is more alpha stuff ;) |
| 04:25.28 | supaman | chronographer: kill -9 $(ps aux | grep deluge-torrent | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}') |
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| 04:25.47 | geo-rge | and generally to fix your own problems... as you do, you improve the dist by reporting your solutions |
| 04:25.53 | chronographer | wow thanks! did you test it? |
| 04:26.09 | supaman | chronographer: well .. tested it on a xmms ... worked there ;) |
| 04:26.16 | chronographer | great! |
| 04:26.18 | geo-rge | chronographer: but that |
| 04:26.21 | chronographer | ill just check it |
| 04:26.24 | geo-rge | is what killall does |
| 04:26.49 | supaman | geo-rge: not quite .. killall is more soft than kill -9 |
| 04:26.57 | simonrvn | uh, no |
| 04:27.00 | geo-rge | you can killall -9 |
| 04:27.07 | chronographer | its just deluge now though, but works fine! |
| 04:27.13 | chronographer | thanks |
| 04:27.19 | simonrvn | killall is a symlink to killall5 |
| 04:27.26 | simonrvn | IIRC |
| 04:27.50 | supaman | geo-rge: it can? |
| 04:27.56 | supaman | geo-rge: didnt know that |
| 04:28.00 | geo-rge | since you will have a script for starting this thing, you therefore have the opportunity to fork/exec and determine the process ID |
| 04:28.08 | ameyer | I've killall -9'd |
| 04:28.09 | chronographer | kill works too, i think it is nicer just asking the prog to close with out all than -9 nastiness =) |
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| 04:28.40 | geo-rge | after starting it and determining the process ID, you can write that id to a file |
| 04:28.41 | supaman | -9 is a dead bringer ... -2 is the nice thing |
| 04:28.43 | simonrvn | ffs, just rtfms |
| 04:28.50 | geo-rge | generally called a pid file |
| 04:29.02 | geo-rge | then when you kill you already know the id |
| 04:29.03 | geo-rge | it |
| 04:29.07 | geo-rge | is in the file |
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| 04:29.23 | geo-rge | argh, enter is too close to, uhh, other keys... |
| 04:29.33 | supaman | geo-rge: like q :) |
| 04:29.41 | dalias | lol |
| 04:29.52 | chronographer | yeah, but setting a nice line of code like the above is better than writing to a text file isn't it? |
| 04:30.04 | Shifty | how can i kill the gui on debian? |
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| 04:30.17 | bullgard4 | Where belongs sid in the following sequence: Sarge > Etch > Lenny? |
| 04:30.17 | supaman | Shifty: with a shotgun? |
| 04:30.26 | Shifty | -.- ^^ |
| 04:30.29 | chronographer | how to check my siytem time? is it the same as my clock? |
| 04:30.37 | supaman | Shifty: depends on what GUI you are using |
| 04:30.50 | Shifty | i start it wit startx :D |
| 04:30.57 | Shifty | but cant kill it... .( |
| 04:31.18 | supaman | Shifty: ok .. then what happens ... do you go into GNOME, KDE or some window manager like windowmaker? |
| 04:31.32 | Shifty | yes gnome |
| 04:31.40 | geo-rge | well, if you do it this way then you're allocating a resource (the process) which you keep track of (in the pid file)... then when you stop it, you are cleanly deallocating the resource you allocated, thru the reference you saved |
| 04:32.39 | Shifty | init 3 wont work |
| 04:32.39 | geo-rge | try ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 04:32.47 | supaman | Shifty: or killall gnome-session |
| 04:32.55 | Shifty | that restarts it geo-rge |
| 04:33.16 | supaman | Shifty: ahh ... /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 04:33.17 | geo-rge | Shifty: so you're running some kinda xdm? |
| 04:33.28 | Shifty | ok i try it supaman |
| 04:33.57 | Shifty | thxvvvvvm! |
| 04:34.20 | Azar | wtf, is anyone using a Debian updater program? |
| 04:34.33 | geo-rge | it's called apt-get |
| 04:34.43 | Azar | geo-rge: I am talking about automatic updates |
| 04:34.55 | Shifty | yes here |
| 04:35.04 | geo-rge | can you imagine how hard manual updates would be?? |
| 04:35.07 | Azar | oh mannn! what a stupid idea, excuse me |
| 04:35.13 | Azar | what? |
| 04:35.17 | Azar | hard? |
| 04:35.23 | Shifty | yes i tried it xD |
| 04:35.27 | supaman | automatic update ... cron and aptitude ;) |
| 04:36.05 | chronographer | des anyone always use compiz? |
| 04:36.07 | geo-rge | without apt, without debian packaging system, without depend relations... |
| 04:36.47 | Azar | geo-rge: I use apt, aptitude I am NOT talking about them but about some software that AUTO updates |
| 04:36.55 | geo-rge | Azar: yeahwell. my original use for X was to have more than one shell on the screen at once |
| 04:37.09 | supaman | chronographer: not me .. my AGP slot is broken ... stuck with a PCI graphics card |
| 04:37.21 | Azar | geo-rge: do you realize how stupid is to have an auto-update ? |
| 04:37.27 | supaman | running pretty slow here :) |
| 04:37.38 | geo-rge | Azar: yes I do. it's usually not a good idea |
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| 04:38.08 | Shifty_ | how can i install nvidia drivers? |
| 04:38.18 | Azar | using aptitude you can actually SEE what is getting updated and you have the chance to pick'n cherry |
| 04:38.32 | chronographer | i found it conflicts with something eventually, need to go back and forth, so i dont use it, just wondered if any1 does, day to day |
| 04:38.37 | Shifty_ | i downloaded it from the official nvidia site ...now i get some problems like gcc compiler version ... |
| 04:38.49 | Shifty_ | is there a easier way to handle that? |
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| 04:38.54 | supaman | !tell Shifty about nvidia |
| 04:38.55 | Azar | Shifty_: because you should never download from nvidia site |
| 04:38.59 | Azar | !nvidia driver |
| 04:39.04 | Shifty_ | ^^ |
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| 04:39.32 | supaman | !tell Shifty_ about nvidia |
| 04:39.33 | chronographer | search nvidia the debian way |
| 04:39.36 | Azar | !nvidia installer |
| 04:39.36 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia-installer was a clever cross-platform way of installing nvidia's proprietary drivers, which works fine on systems with stupid package managers (i.e. not so good with Debian). more specifically, prone to dying if any X or kernel related packages are upgraded or removed. Ask me about <nvidia-graphics-drivers> instead. |
| 04:39.38 | chronographer | i think |
| 04:39.43 | geo-rge | chronographer: as mentioned... it's usually not a good idea to automatically update... but it also depends on the purpose of your machine |
| 04:40.06 | chronographer | ? |
| 04:40.06 | Shifty_ | ok thx |
| 04:40.20 | Azar | geo-rge: I will never accept to have my system upgraded without me seeing what is getting done |
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| 04:40.36 | geo-rge | (someone could have made a mistake that day... and you wake up to find that your HDs have been formatted for you) |
| 04:40.44 | Azar | is not that |
| 04:41.09 | Azar | say I have activated a repo on my sources.list for some reason and forgot to comment it.. |
| 04:41.15 | jair | !x11vnc |
| 04:41.15 | dpkg | well, x11vnc is a vnc server for displaying the running x session, or http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ |
| 04:41.16 | supaman | Azar: I think aptitude logs what it does ... email the log to you when it finishes .. then you know what happened |
| 04:41.21 | Azar | imagine stuff getting in automatically |
| 04:41.33 | Azar | supaman: kinda too late? |
| 04:41.56 | supaman | Azar: thats true ... |
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| 04:42.14 | jair | those anyone here has configure the "x11vnc" program to start with the gdm so i can configure it to be ready after the machine boot or reboot? |
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| 04:42.30 | Azar | I update once /week. not big deal few words typed there... 2 min update/upgrade |
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| 04:42.51 | supaman | Azar: good policy |
| 04:42.58 | ShiftOnYou | !tell ShiftOnYou about nvidia |
| 04:43.21 | Azar | Shifty_: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 04:43.44 | Azar | err ShiftOnYou I ment |
| 04:43.52 | geo-rge | ShiftOnYou: or /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 04:44.08 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.36 | supaman | SF7: try /var/log/syslog |
| 04:44.38 | simonrvn | /var/log{dmesg,boot,syslog,*} |
| 04:44.47 | simonrvn | oops missed a slash in there |
| 04:44.48 | chuck | brb |
| 04:45.42 | supaman | simonrvn: youll be sent to slash hell for that ;) |
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| 04:45.56 | simonrvn | yeh it's called slashdot.org :P |
| 04:46.12 | ShiftOnYou | Make sure APT has non-free and contrib sources <---how do i do that? |
| 04:46.21 | simonrvn | edit sources.list |
| 04:46.32 | supaman | simonrvn: hey .. dont diss /. ... my favourite site ;) |
| 04:46.37 | ShiftOnYou | what do i have to add ? |
| 04:47.24 | resistance | i'm trying to build smoothwall dev on debian etch, i got the build going for about an hour then it had a problem, complained about yacc which is bison. I install bison and now i can't get it to go past the gcc check. |
| 04:47.48 | resistance | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 04:48.01 | ShiftOnYou | add gcc package |
| 04:48.07 | supaman | ShiftOnYou: to a line that begins with "deb" .. after the word "main" add "contrib non-free" |
| 04:48.19 | resistance | gcc is installed |
| 04:48.33 | ShiftOnYou | also -dev? |
| 04:48.49 | supaman | ShiftOnYou: yeh ... sure .. why not ... :) |
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| 04:49.14 | Azar | gcc compiles... |
| 04:49.17 | supaman | ShiftOnYou: ehh .. you mean -src |
| 04:49.29 | ShiftOnYou | ok |
| 04:49.31 | resistance | couldn't find package gcc-dev |
| 04:49.36 | supaman | ShiftOnYou: or were you talking to resistance |
| 04:49.57 | Azar | resistance: apt-cache search? |
| 04:51.46 | supaman | resistance: uhh ... can you compile any c program at all? |
| 04:52.36 | resistance | how can i test without installing anything? |
| 04:52.46 | ShiftOnYou | what is sarge? |
| 04:52.53 | resistance | etch |
| 04:52.53 | Azar | someone asked earlier about vim configuration (color text..etc) cool article: http://jbakshi.50webs.com/Linux_tutorial/Vim/Empowering_Vim.html |
| 04:53.22 | Azar | resistance: test the gcc compiler? |
| 04:53.24 | supaman | resistance: make a simple "hello world" program |
| 04:54.12 | gryfie_ | ShiftOnYou, : There are several debian-versions.... woody, sarge, etch.... |
| 04:54.24 | ShiftOnYou | etch is actual right? |
| 04:54.29 | gryfie_ | like windows95, win98, nt ... |
| 04:54.50 | gryfie_ | it's the actual, stable release, yes |
| 04:54.54 | gryfie_ | (etch) |
| 04:55.01 | Arron | how can i get ivman/hal to mount a usb storage device? i get "ivman: Device /dev/sdb can't be mounted because it is not a volume" or "(ivm_device_is_mountable) Device /dev/sde1 won't be mounted because no mount policy was specified on volume or storage device and storage device does not appear to be removable" errors. |
| 04:55.02 | Azar | ShiftOnYou: Debian 4.0 Etch is the stable version. Lenny is the Testing. Sid is the unstable |
| 04:55.04 | supaman | ShiftOnYou: etch is the stable one today .. sarge is the old stable one (I think, mess up the names though) |
| 04:55.27 | resistance | yes i can compile othe c programs |
| 04:55.54 | SF7 | can I search my /var/log/ folder for any files containing 'KERNEL PANIC'? |
| 04:56.19 | Azar | resistance: I do not know about "configuration" but gcc for sure "compiles" programs and runs executables |
| 04:56.21 | supaman | SF7: grep "kernel panic" /var/log/* |
| 04:56.32 | SF7 | thx |
| 04:56.55 | simonrvn | !b-e |
| 04:56.55 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. See also <qotd49>. |
| 04:57.24 | ShiftOnYou | why get i could not find nvidia-kernel-common? |
| 04:57.51 | ShiftOnYou | if i run apt-get install module-assistant gcc nvidia-kernel-common |
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| 04:58.12 | wols_ | ShiftOnYou: what debian branch? |
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| 04:58.23 | resistance | checking whether the C compiler (gcc -B/usr/bin -O2 -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 -Wall ) works... no |
| 04:58.24 | ShiftOnYou | etch |
| 04:58.33 | Azar | :) dear dear mister wols_ ! |
| 04:58.38 | wols_ | resistance: b-e it is |
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| 04:59.20 | resistance | wols_ huh? |
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| 04:59.41 | wols_ | resistance: have you done what simonrvn suggested? |
| 05:00.02 | resistance | wols_ yes |
| 05:00.04 | wols_ | ShiftOnYou: add contrib to your sources.list |
| 05:00.08 | wols_ | !tell ShiftOnYou about contrib |
| 05:00.22 | ginoman | jackpot... I just guessed the name of this irc channel |
| 05:00.34 | SF7 | 'grep "KERNEL PANIC" /var/log/*' gives nothing. does this mean there is no log file for my failed boot into the new kernel? |
| 05:00.40 | wols_ | resistance: then check the configure log |
| 05:00.45 | ginoman | I wonder if freenode has a #linux channel |
| 05:00.59 | ShiftOnYou | wich are the default sources? |
| 05:01.01 | dalias | it's probably uberlame |
| 05:01.12 | ShiftOnYou | i only have two who starts with security. |
| 05:01.14 | wols_ | SF7: there never is. the kernel panics before syslog and friends are loaded. who's supposed to write a log? the fairies? |
| 05:01.32 | wols_ | ShiftOnYou: the default ones are main |
| 05:01.48 | SF7 | fairy nuff |
| 05:02.00 | supaman | SF7: ahh .. yes .. if the kernel panics before syslog gets loaded then nothing is log'd |
| 05:02.06 | wols_ | ShiftOnYou: neither of them is it. and you should only have one security. fix your sources.list |
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| 05:02.40 | resistance | wols_: where would i find that |
| 05:02.51 | wols_ | SF7: the last message of your krenel is the important part |
| 05:03.06 | Azar | deb http://security.debian.org/ etch /updates main non-free contrib << ShiftOnYou like that |
| 05:03.08 | wols_ | resistance: same dir where your ./configure is |
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| 05:03.29 | wols_ | Azar: that he already has. no need to add that once more |
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| 05:03.45 | ShiftOnYou | ty |
| 05:03.54 | Azar | wols_: that was just a "how it looks" |
| 05:04.03 | wols_ | !tell ShiftOnYou about sources.list |
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| 05:04.35 | ShiftOnYou | ok fixed it thx |
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| 05:06.25 | resistance | apparently this cant be built on gcc 4 |
| 05:06.40 | jair | anyone knows if there is a channel to talk about x11vnc on debian? |
| 05:06.40 | resistance | will it work to just uninstall it and install gcc 3 |
| 05:06.46 | wols_ | what choices to run win2k under linux do I have besides VMWare and VirtualBox? WINE has already been tried, Xen is out due to inferior hardware |
| 05:07.00 | wols_ | resistance: no. just install gcc3 |
| 05:07.01 | jair | I am trying to have debian start the x11vnc at boot |
| 05:07.17 | wols_ | and make the compile use it |
| 05:07.22 | jair | but so far I must log in to the machine and then I can start it |
| 05:07.38 | jair | other wise I can start it remotely using the ssh |
| 05:07.51 | wols_ | jair: edit your ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession |
| 05:08.19 | wols_ | or does it need to be started when gdm is up? |
| 05:08.26 | jair | wols_: hmmm and change it to what? is there a document thatd escribe how to make this work? |
| 05:08.33 | jair | yes |
| 05:08.46 | jair | wols_: I want to start it when "gdm" is up :D |
| 05:08.52 | jair | that will be fanstastic |
| 05:08.58 | resistance | do i have to tell it to use gcc 3 |
| 05:09.04 | wols_ | m /etc/X11/Xsession then I think |
| 05:09.20 | wols_ | resistance: yes you do |
| 05:10.05 | resistance | ok the command is make build, how do i tell it to use gcc 3 |
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| 05:10.18 | Azar | good night honorables! |
| 05:10.31 | wols_ | export CC=/path/to/gcc |
| 05:10.36 | jair | wols_: and what do i need to do put there ? the command that start the x11vnc ? with the passwd? |
| 05:10.52 | wols_ | man xsession |
| 05:11.00 | jair | wols_: ok i will check |
| 05:11.07 | jair | wols_: thank you |
| 05:12.15 | supaman | jair: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/x11vnc |
| 05:12.19 | SF7 | I am trying to bypass initrd: I have disabled ' general -> initial ram file system...' and now it won't boot |
| 05:12.32 | supaman | jair: check the "when nobody is not logged in" part |
| 05:12.38 | SF7 | is this something I specifically have to enable ? |
| 05:12.39 | wols_ | SF7: cause you didn't compile in the necessary drivers |
| 05:12.50 | wols_ | SF7: "this" being what? |
| 05:12.51 | SF7 | drivers to do what ? |
| 05:12.59 | wols_ | drivers needed on bootup |
| 05:13.07 | wols_ | disk drivers and root filesystem mainly |
| 05:13.41 | wols_ | if you remove the initrd you can't just use the debian or the default kernel config. you have to config it yourself |
| 05:14.15 | SF7 | can I put these in through menuconfig? |
| 05:14.20 | wols_ | yes |
| 05:14.38 | jair | supaman: my friend |
| 05:14.48 | jair | supaman: thank you very much, i will check that |
| 05:14.54 | resistance | wol_: still nothing, there is also no configure log |
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| 05:15.19 | wols_ | resistance: ls -al /path/to/your/source please |
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| 05:16.20 | ginoman | hey, has anyone here installed vmware server for debian amd64 |
| 05:16.29 | ginoman | for - on* |
| 05:16.47 | wols_ | !tell ginoman about anyone |
| 05:17.50 | ginoman | did someone here pm me? |
| 05:17.55 | ginoman | if so try again |
| 05:18.00 | ginoman | I hit the wrong button |
| 05:18.12 | wols_ | !tell ginoman about anyone |
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| 05:18.39 | SF7 | all of my hard disk related staff seems to be in 'device drivers -> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support'. am I looking in the wrong place? |
| 05:18.58 | wols_ | SF7: that is NOT a driver for your controller |
| 05:19.17 | wols_ | what disk controller do you use? |
| 05:19.36 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.47 | wols_ | lspci |
| 05:20.28 | resistance | i just tried to make a recursive permission changa, and it started complaining about missing files |
| 05:20.29 | SF7 | IDE interface blah blah PIIX4 IDE |
| 05:20.50 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.09 | wols_ | !tell resistance about errors |
| 05:21.15 | liable | intel |
| 05:21.22 | SF7 | yes |
| 05:22.36 | ginoman | ok.. real question.... I am having trouble installing vmware server on my debian AMD 64 because the modules didn't compile right. all I got was a cryptic error saying something went wrong... will anyone help me |
| 05:22.42 | SF7 | but I have already enabled 'Intel PIIXn chipsets support' |
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| 05:24.18 | supaman | ginoman: do you have the kernel headers installed? |
| 05:24.43 | ginoman | I do believe.... uh...... let me apt-cache it |
| 05:24.51 | wols_ | !tell ginoman about errors |
| 05:24.59 | liable | SF7: is it sata ? |
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| 05:25.16 | JRWR | with a log file, how would i get a streaming few of the lines added (its a apache log, would like to see the hits as they come in) |
| 05:25.38 | SF7 | liable: how do I find out? |
| 05:25.43 | supaman | ginoman: but you should be able to follow this howto pretty straight forward: http://www.howtoforge.com/debian_sarge_vmware_server_howto |
| 05:25.50 | Xenguy | JRWR: tail -f (or tail -F) |
| 05:25.57 | ginoman | thanks |
| 05:26.25 | JRWR | >.< i was using Cat log | tail.... |
| 05:26.36 | liable | SF7: lspci |
| 05:26.59 | SF7 | no, there is no mention of sata |
| 05:27.00 | liable | SF7: you will have a ide controller and possibly a sata controller |
| 05:27.38 | ginoman | yeah, cuz I was using the install pl script, and it erred trying to complie.. all I got was: In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:80:/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_kernel.h:21: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘compat_exit’/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_kernel.h:21: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘exit_co |
| 05:27.38 | ginoman | e defaults to ‘int’ in declaration of ‘_syscall1’ |
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| 05:29.19 | wols_ | GutterPunk: #vmware |
| 05:29.43 | wols_ | ginoman: #vmware |
| 05:29.44 | liable | wrong nick, ner ner |
| 05:30.54 | supaman | liable: that should teach him |
| 05:31.15 | supaman | ;) |
| 05:31.18 | liable | used to teach me ;) |
| 05:31.25 | supaman | hehehe |
| 05:31.27 | ginoman | I'm there.... we're having a wonderful chat about how bad vista is... not relevant to what I'm looking for at this point in the convo but it will be, thanks |
| 05:31.35 | wols_ | neato. clean tongue |
| 05:31.38 | resistance | wols_ just to confirm, before i ran export CC=/path/to/gcc, i tried echo $CC, there was nothing |
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| 05:31.51 | SF7 | if lspci doesn't mention sata, does that mean I definitely don't need sata support? |
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| 05:32.09 | wols_ | SF7: how about pastebin to let us see the output? |
| 05:32.26 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.36 | wols_ | lspci crashes? |
| 05:32.37 | Shifty | is it possible to restore a forgotten pw ? or to overwrite it? |
| 05:32.50 | ginoman | touch logfile.txt; <command> > logfile.txt |
| 05:32.52 | wols_ | Shifty: it's possible to overwrite |
| 05:32.53 | SF7 | :) sorry that I thought you meant bootup dump |
| 05:32.56 | liable | man passwwd |
| 05:32.57 | supaman | Shifty: if your root yes |
| 05:32.57 | SF7 | k |
| 05:33.03 | Shifty | ok |
| 05:33.04 | Shifty | how |
| 05:33.12 | Shifty | i forgot the pw for seahorse |
| 05:33.12 | liable | man passwd |
| 05:33.15 | wols_ | Shifty: become root, set a new password |
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| 05:34.35 | sf7_ | http://pastebin.com/m74cd1295 |
| 05:35.19 | wols_ | no SATA. machine is too old |
| 05:35.29 | SF7 | thx |
| 05:35.51 | Shifty | so wich command can i use to change the pw of seahorse ? |
| 05:36.09 | wols_ | Shifty: liable told you two times already |
| 05:36.22 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:36.42 | wols_ | SF7: it would help to know the rrror mssage you get |
| 05:36.43 | Shifty | i dont find the right point in the man... |
| 05:36.52 | SF7 | i'll reboot |
| 05:37.04 | supaman | Shifty: sudo passwd seahorse |
| 05:37.32 | Shifty | ty |
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| 05:38.01 | supaman | ;) |
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| 05:39.16 | Shifty | seahorse isnt a user... its a programm |
| 05:39.36 | liable | haha |
| 05:39.46 | supaman | dohhhh |
| 05:39.53 | liable | go read its docs then |
| 05:39.55 | supaman | ;) |
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| 05:41.55 | wols_ | Shifty: you lost your pw for your GnuPG? |
| 05:41.55 | SF7 | http://pastebin.com/m4cdebec4 |
| 05:42.29 | Shifty | whats GnuPG? |
| 05:42.35 | wols_ | you are still using initrd SF7 |
| 05:42.44 | wols_ | also, how do you compile the kernel? what line? |
| 05:42.47 | SF7 | no, this is trying to do it without |
| 05:43.05 | wols_ | SF7: then this wouldn't show: pivot_root: no such file directory |
| 05:43.17 | supaman | Shifty: the program that seahorse is a frontend for |
| 05:43.19 | wols_ | SF7: you still have initrd in your mnue.lst or wherever. |
| 05:43.23 | wols_ | so how do you compile it? |
| 05:43.40 | SF7 | oooh I'm using grub. I have probably forgotten to take out the initrd line! |
| 05:43.51 | wols_ | SF7: answer my question |
| 05:44.07 | Shifty | ok if i click on passwords in seahorse... the programm wants a password... and i dont forgot it :( |
| 05:44.24 | wols_ | Shifty: you are fscked. no way to retrieve it |
| 05:44.32 | Shifty | xD |
| 05:44.34 | SF7 | make-kpkg --revision=786:MyKernel2.4.20 kernel_image |
| 05:44.48 | Shifty | owned by Shifty ^^ |
| 05:44.51 | SF7 | dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.20_MyKernel2.4.20.deb |
| 05:45.01 | SF7 | heh |
| 05:45.05 | Shifty | maybe i remember it ... |
| 05:45.07 | Dewi | I'm working on a new postfix mail relay setup... but I can't figure out what amavisd is for. I can find tutorials for postfix with postgrey, spamassassin, clamav, RBLs, none of which use amavis glue. So is amavis necessary at all? What's the advantage of using it? |
| 05:45.15 | Shifty | g2g ... gn8 |
| 05:45.18 | Shifty | cya |
| 05:45.37 | liable | Dewi: check the one on workaround.org |
| 05:45.54 | Dewi | liable: that's the primary one I'm using, yeah |
| 05:45.55 | wols_ | Dewi: amavisd is mainly for incoming mail. something you won't care about |
| 05:46.06 | Dewi | wols_: er... I do care about it |
| 05:46.18 | wols_ | amavisd-new lets you string several filters together. it's also an MDA |
| 05:46.20 | Dewi | but my point is, everything that amavisd can talk to, it seems like postfix can talk to directly |
| 05:46.21 | liable | Dewi: i thought that howto mentioned amavis? |
| 05:46.24 | Dewi | so I don't see the need for the glue |
| 05:46.37 | wols_ | Dewi: you said "relay" |
| 05:46.46 | Dewi | wols_: MTA then |
| 05:46.52 | wols_ | a relay takes mail in and sends it out again immediately. |
| 05:47.48 | wols_ | SF7: the other problem is your devfs, which is really really deprecated. don't use it |
| 05:47.53 | wols_ | last: why 2.4.20? |
| 05:48.28 | wols_ | if you already do use devfs, compile it into your kernel |
| 05:48.35 | SF7 | soz -- I pulled the lines out of the howto - I'm using 2.6.22.6 |
| 05:48.54 | SF7 | what does deprecated mean? |
| 05:48.56 | liable | soz? |
| 05:48.59 | wols_ | SF7: using a hwoto without a clue and without thinking is very vrey stupid |
| 05:49.17 | wols_ | not in use anymore, superfluous. old |
| 05:49.43 | cahoot | norwegian blue |
| 05:49.56 | Dewi | liable: well that tutorial uses amavisd for spamassassin and clamav, but does greylisting and RBLs without it |
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| 05:50.16 | Dewi | liable: but I've found tutorials for clamav and spamassassin (with postfix) that don't mention amavis |
| 05:50.19 | SF7 | actually it did work and I booted successfully into a 2.6.x kernel. but now trying to take out initrd is not working |
| 05:50.59 | supaman | cahoot: norwegian wood |
| 05:51.13 | liable | SF7: look for all your ide modules in lsmod, and compile them in, as well as your fs driver |
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| 05:51.42 | wols_ | liable: devfs problems are now disk controller related? /dev/console errors too? |
| 05:52.04 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.10 | liable | yes. shut up |
| 05:52.21 | Dewi | SF7: it means not recommended anymore |
| 05:52.27 | wols_ | liable: what disk contrller is devfs the driver for? |
| 05:52.36 | Dewi | SF7: and usually unsupported soon |
| 05:52.38 | wols_ | or /dev/console? |
| 05:52.41 | supaman | SF7: also .. not supported any more |
| 05:53.02 | wols_ | SF7: are you running sarge or etch? |
| 05:53.09 | supaman | SF7: something else has taken over its function |
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| 05:53.40 | wols_ | in case of devfs, udev did, but if you run an old debian, you might not be able to change easily |
| 05:53.54 | liable | wols_: he said he had built a 2.6 kernel but it failed. i have no idea what kernel that error came from, but if he going to use a 2.6 my guess it will be a .18 so devfs wont play into it |
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| 05:54.22 | wols_ | liable: he said he uses a 2.6.22. have you even looked at his pastebin? |
| 05:54.37 | liable | wols_: i looked at his last one, and thats it |
| 05:55.04 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.24 | liable | wols_: instead of wasting your time on me, i suggest you waste it telling him how to fix it |
| 05:55.27 | wols_ | and his last one clearly mentions devfs. where his system/bootup procedure/whatever looks for it and fails to find it. which in turn means there is no /dev/console which makes very bad things happen |
| 05:55.45 | wols_ | liable: I would. if you wouldn't always tell him to check his IDE drivers... |
| 05:56.24 | wols_ | SF7: grep devfs /etc/fstab I think.also to check debian version: dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 |
| 05:57.14 | supaman | what ever happened to /etc/debian.version?? ;) |
| 05:57.32 | liable | its not accurate enough |
| 05:57.44 | supaman | damn heisenbergs law |
| 05:57.51 | SF7 | uname -a tells me 2.4.27... |
| 05:58.02 | wols_ | SF7: that doesn't mean shit |
| 05:58.29 | liable | haha. ask for something specific, and get a random answer in return |
| 05:58.45 | SF7 | there when you gave me reports my gcc version I think: 2.3.2.dsl-22sa |
| 05:59.11 | wols_ | sarge. upgrade to etch if you want to run a latest 2.6 kernel |
| 05:59.22 | wols_ | !tell SF7 about sarge->etch |
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| 06:01.24 | liable | SF7: you loser |
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| 06:01.56 | mudge | i just did a fresh install of the latest debian, and when I type in alsamixer I get this error: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument |
| 06:02.16 | mudge | my sound card is hd-intel |
| 06:02.33 | mudge | any suggestions? |
| 06:02.36 | liable | try alsaconf first |
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| 06:04.31 | jeffwheeler | What's the easiest way to make a box plot with simple integers in any application in the repositories. I don't have time to learn and configure some large and very powerful app, so I'm just looking for something very simple. |
| 06:04.32 | mudge | that just totally killed my sound |
| 06:04.52 | mudge | liable: alsaconf ran, but then gave errors when it tried to run amixer |
| 06:04.58 | mudge | now my sound doesn't work at all |
| 06:05.05 | mudge | before it was just really low |
| 06:05.05 | liable | awsome |
| 06:05.18 | liable | mudge: are your modules loaded now? |
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| 06:06.15 | mudge | not sure, it said: Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-pcm-oss snd -mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc. |
| 06:06.20 | mudge | is there a way for me to check? |
| 06:06.24 | liable | so check lsmod |
| 06:06.44 | dalias | jeffwheeler, gnuplot maybe |
| 06:07.12 | jeffwheeler | dalias: that's what I saw from searching, but I suspect it'll have a rather steep learning curve for what I'm trying to do |
| 06:07.33 | mudge | liable: looks like they are loaded, snd_hda_intel is in the list |
| 06:07.35 | mudge | and others |
| 06:07.51 | liable | mudge: and snd-pcm-oss ? |
| 06:07.56 | dalias | jeffwheeler, well, you just need to learn a few commands |
| 06:08.14 | mudge | liable: yea, that's there |
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| 06:09.11 | liable | mudge: and no sound at all from any apps? |
| 06:10.05 | mudge | no, and also the volume control at the top right of my desktop disappeared when I ran alsaconf |
| 06:10.45 | simonrvn | probably killed any apps using the sound device ;) |
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| 06:11.16 | mudge | liable: but i'm just trying from youtube |
| 06:11.16 | liable | mudge: neat. alsaconf obviously shouldn't do that. try cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
| 06:12.05 | simonrvn | vmlinuz? |
| 06:12.08 | mudge | liable: I got this response: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy |
| 06:12.22 | liable | mudge: lsof /dev/dsp |
| 06:12.31 | mudge | liable: I'm glad you find this intellectually gratifing, I appreciate your help |
| 06:12.37 | simonrvn | alsa reload will quickly tell you what's using it |
| 06:13.29 | mudge | liable: nothing happens when I do that command, |
| 06:13.33 | simonrvn | liable: i suspect alsconf was written that way, kill processes using the sound |
| 06:13.42 | SF7 | I don't have anything valuable on my system.. is it going to be easier to upgrade sarge->etch, or just dl the etch iso and install from scratch? |
| 06:13.54 | mudge | the regular prompt is the result: mudge:/home/mudge# |
| 06:13.58 | simonrvn | upgrading won't be hard |
| 06:14.04 | simonrvn | !sarge->etch |
| 06:14.04 | dpkg | sarge->etch is read the etch release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes ; the recommended upgrade procedure for sarge->etch is no longer as simple as running "aptitude dist-upgrade", please follow the prodedure in the <release notes>. also ask me about <security> |
| 06:14.08 | liable | simonrvn: yeah, i am pretty sure it does, but his failed half way through |
| 06:14.32 | SF7 | thx -- I am going through that link now |
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| 06:14.42 | foug | has anyone here used BitchX for irc? |
| 06:14.50 | simonrvn | too many |
| 06:14.53 | mudge | alsa reload gives: bash: alsa: command not found |
| 06:14.56 | simonrvn | !bitchx |
| 06:14.56 | dpkg | it has been said that bitchx is a fine irc-client build on epic and ircII. as a debian package, screwed up and not falling back to IPv4 when IPv6 ain't possible, or not as good as irssi, and needs less moronic /quit messages, or if you are an irssi user who is annoyed by said /quit messages, "/ignore -regexp -pattern BitchX QUITS" |
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| 06:15.22 | simonrvn | mudge: it was meant to be run like: "/etc/init.d/alsa reload" |
| 06:15.30 | foug | simonrvn: anytime i join a channel it tells me "irc robots not allowed" or that i am "banned" |
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| 06:16.08 | simonrvn | they've probably set a ban on that client. too many script kiddies using it |
| 06:16.33 | foug | simonrvn: they banned anyone using the client? |
| 06:16.38 | mudge | simonrvn, liable: the reload command response: /etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: Processes using sound devices: 10641(firefox-bin). |
| 06:17.07 | liable | mudge: close firefox and do it again |
| 06:17.21 | foug | simonrvn: what's a good irc client for no gui ? |
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| 06:17.30 | simonrvn | irssi |
| 06:17.37 | mudge | response: Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc. |
| 06:17.39 | simonrvn | mudge: quit firefox... |
| 06:17.50 | mudge | simonrvn: I quit firefox |
| 06:17.55 | foug | simonrvn: so anyone using bitchx is banned from servers? hmm |
| 06:18.10 | mudge | response: Loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-hda-intel snd-hda-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc snd-mixer-oss. |
| 06:18.28 | simonrvn | foug: i can't say anything more than what i already said. unsure if it's per-channel or per-network |
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| 06:18.36 | foug | simonrvn: hmmm k ty |
| 06:18.45 | mudge | when i run alsamixer I get the same result: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument |
| 06:19.07 | liable | try aumix |
| 06:19.48 | mudge | command not found |
| 06:19.58 | liable | install it |
| 06:20.15 | foug | what is a good IM client that i can use without a gui? |
| 06:20.15 | saberworks | hi I am having a problem with apt-get and upgrades. I'm on a 2.4 kernel, I just ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and it tried to upgrade libc6, but it fails telling me I should add etch to my sources.list and upgrade to a 2.6 kernel, and it appears to have left my apt in an unusable state - any command I run I get a list of "unmet dependencies" and it stops. Is there a way to tell it just keep the old one instead of upgrading? |
| 06:20.22 | liable | foug: irssi |
| 06:20.31 | foug | liable: you can use AIM with that as well? |
| 06:20.40 | liable | no idea |
| 06:20.48 | foug | i need to use aim somehow |
| 06:20.49 | liable | ask google |
| 06:21.21 | mudge | liable: installed it and now running it |
| 06:21.32 | wols_ | saberworks: install the old one with dpkg again |
| 06:21.51 | wols_ | foug: you can use bitlbee. that gives you a virtual irc server |
| 06:21.54 | saberworks | I don't know exactly which one it was, is there a way to tell? |
| 06:22.09 | dalias | yes, use bitlbee |
| 06:22.12 | dalias | i love bitlbee |
| 06:22.13 | saberworks | libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13 ah wait I found it |
| 06:22.14 | foug | i need im now lol |
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| 06:22.38 | dalias | foug, just irc to im.bitlbee.org |
| 06:22.46 | dalias | then make an account for yourself |
| 06:22.58 | dalias | then you can use aim via your irc client |
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| 06:24.50 | mudge | liable: i turned up the volume, it's a lot louder now |
| 06:25.43 | liable | mudge: cool |
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| 06:28.21 | mudge | liable: now it is really loud |
| 06:28.28 | mudge | liable: now it is too loud |
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| 06:28.38 | mudge | liable: just kidding, it's not too loud, its great |
| 06:29.05 | saberworks | wols_: I don't know what .deb to install. I want it to just forget installing a new libc6 and keep my old one, but it appears I can't do that now for some reason? |
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| 06:33.31 | chronographer | hello can anyone tell me if ther eis a problem with this line in crontab? 35 16 * * * /home/alex/.deluge |
| 06:33.52 | foug | hmm, what's up with unix irc clients? i just tried connecting to this server/channel with irssi. I did connect but i was invisible or something. I could see what you guys were saying but when i tried to chat nothing worked. |
| 06:34.01 | Peppery | chronographer: whats the problem? |
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| 06:34.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | chronographer, why does it start a dot-file? |
| 06:34.36 | chronographer | cause i want it to ba a hidden file |
| 06:34.42 | chronographer | is it a problem? |
| 06:34.51 | chronographer | its a sh script |
| 06:34.53 | Peppery | Trying to get Deluge to run at a certain time? |
| 06:34.58 | chronographer | which says /usr/bin/deluge |
| 06:35.02 | chronographer | yes |
| 06:35.14 | Peppery | why not just do /usr/bin/deluge in the crontab? |
| 06:35.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, it's just very unusual... |
| 06:35.18 | chronographer | i tried just using 0 0 * * * deluge |
| 06:35.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, you have to give the full path |
| 06:35.32 | chronographer | it didn't work, neither did /usr/bin/deluge |
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| 06:35.51 | chronographer | i can try that again now.. hold on |
| 06:36.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, maybe |
| 06:36.37 | Rothgar | Why does mysql-server-4.1 download 5 now? |
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| 06:36.49 | chronographer | so i got time as 5 mins in the future 40 16 * * * deluge I will tell you in 4 min if it works |
| 06:36.58 | chronographer | this should be fine right? |
| 06:38.36 | chronographer | when i change crontab, do i need to update the daemon? |
| 06:38.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | the dot-file is unusual, because you normally don't have executables or scripts as dotfiles... that's what people do who install root-kits (or what some root-kits do) |
| 06:39.00 | chronographer | oh really |
| 06:39.12 | chronographer | it should be something.sh eh? |
| 06:39.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | so, there is nothing really wrong with it, it's just unusual to "hide" executables |
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| 06:39.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | pretty often, people have a directory $HOME/bin |
| 06:40.10 | chronographer | ok i see. Im a little new, but learning quick, i thought it made sense that I don't see it as I dont use it much |
| 06:40.13 | chronographer | ah. i see |
| 06:40.57 | chronographer | well it just clicked over to 4:40, deluge didn't start |
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| 06:41.05 | chronographer | what can I troubleshoot? |
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| 06:41.24 | Rothgar | Why am I forced to download MySQL 5.0 now when I use apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 ? |
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| 06:41.53 | foug | does unix based instant messenging still work? |
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| 06:42.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | chronographer, did you use "crontab -e" to put the line in? |
| 06:43.20 | chronographer | yes |
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| 06:43.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | is cron running? |
| 06:43.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | :) |
| 06:43.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | ps aux |grep cron |
| 06:44.12 | Supaplex | ps -C cron |
| 06:44.16 | chronographer | one as root, one as me |
| 06:44.28 | chronographer | 5638 ? 00:00:00 cron |
| 06:44.38 | chronographer | it has no time? |
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| 06:45.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | that should be used CPU-time, if I'm not mistaken |
| 06:45.42 | chronographer | when I run 'cron' i get: cron: can't open or create /var/run/crond.pid: Permission denied |
| 06:46.01 | chronographer | as root i get cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 5638: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 06:46.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're not supposed to run it |
| 06:46.06 | foug | is anyone here good with using debian without a gui? |
| 06:46.11 | chronographer | ok thats what I thought |
| 06:46.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, it's alredy running |
| 06:46.21 | chronographer | good |
| 06:46.51 | foug | is anyone seeing this? |
| 06:47.07 | chronographer | not me! |
| 06:47.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | we all got our eyes closed firmly :) |
| 06:47.32 | chronographer | what do you want to do with no gui? |
| 06:47.36 | chronographer | =) |
| 06:47.56 | mudge | any suggestions on how to get a microphone to work? |
| 06:48.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | chronographer, huh, you got 16:40 according to your "in-5-mins" line... well, I got 1:40 in the night... |
| 06:48.47 | foug | chronographer: do you know of an instant messaging client? one that let's me connect to GAIM servers |
| 06:49.18 | foug | chronographer: and how come when iuse bitchx anytime i connect to a server it tells me i am a robot. It also happened with irssi one time. And when using irsii no one at all could see my messages. Not even me on another comp |
| 06:49.25 | chronographer | yeah well im in australia |
| 06:49.32 | chronographer | its near 5 oclock here |
| 06:49.42 | chronographer | Sun Sep 16 16:49:40 EST 2007 |
| 06:50.10 | chronographer | you ARE a robot. didn't you know? |
| 06:50.15 | foug | o god |
| 06:50.26 | chronographer | =D |
| 06:50.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | but... |
| 06:50.50 | chronographer | I cant help you sorry foug |
| 06:50.54 | foug | np |
| 06:51.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, ok |
| 06:51.38 | chronographer | so in crontab something like 5 16 is 4:05 pm, right? |
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| 06:52.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 06:52.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | !crontab |
| 06:52.48 | dpkg | format: min, hour, day of month, month, day of week, command. or see cron, or see crontab demystified |
| 06:52.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | hard to remember format :) |
| 06:53.03 | chronographer | =) |
| 06:53.11 | chronographer | but why wont it work for me? |
| 06:53.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 06:53.21 | chronographer | I just want to schedule my bloody torrents |
| 06:53.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | my entries in the system crontab look like that |
| 06:54.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | er |
| 06:54.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | other way around |
| 06:54.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just tried this |
| 06:54.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | # m h dom mon dow command |
| 06:54.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | 53 1 * * * /bin/ls >/tmp/bla |
| 06:54.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | and it worked |
| 06:54.44 | chronographer | I will try it |
| 06:54.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | do you have an /etc/cron.allow ? |
| 06:55.15 | chronographer | no |
| 06:55.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | weird |
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| 06:55.43 | chronographer | if there is none it works fine right |
| 06:56.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | I can't see a big difference (apart from the time) between my line and yours |
| 06:56.37 | chronographer | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:56.39 | mudge | is there a way to turn the microphone on on debian? |
| 06:56.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | deluge is really /usr/bin/deluge? |
| 06:56.51 | chronographer | yep if i use that in term it works |
| 06:57.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | mudge, alsamixer? |
| 06:57.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | chronographer, what exactly works? |
| 06:58.07 | chronographer | nothing I have tried works |
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| 06:58.29 | chronographer | er.. except that thing you just gave me |
| 06:58.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, ok, got what you meant with 'yep if i use that in term it works' |
| 06:58.47 | chronographer | oh /usr/bin/deluge works |
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| 06:59.02 | chronographer | I got a file caled bla in temp nopw.... |
| 06:59.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, then my line did also work |
| 06:59.16 | chronographer | so I must have a prob with deluge running |
| 06:59.29 | chronographer | it will pop a window up in my x session right? |
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| 06:59.59 | chronographer | I gtg now.. will hopefully NOT be back later so thanks for your help |
| 06:59.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, if it does that, then that's the problem |
| 07:00.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | $DISPLAY is not set by cron |
| 07:00.18 | chronographer | deluge is a half decent torrent downloader |
| 07:00.21 | mudge | i would use alsamixer, but alsamixer won't run |
| 07:00.31 | mudge | is there a way to get the microphone to work without using alsamixer? |
| 07:00.34 | chronographer | apt-get install alsamixer |
| 07:00.36 | Rothgar | wtf |
| 07:00.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | chronographer, you have to do DISPLAY=:0 for that |
| 07:00.50 | Rothgar | mysql-server4.1 not only installs 5.0 but it won't compile |
| 07:00.59 | mudge | also alsamixer gives me this error, no matter how many times I install it: alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument |
| 07:01.01 | chronographer | ok cool... I will play later... thanks |
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| 07:01.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | AND need to be logged in :) |
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| 07:01.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, nite |
| 07:01.55 | zbychuk | How to enable UTF-8 in debian "Etch"? |
| 07:02.10 | dalias | isn't it by default? |
| 07:02.23 | dalias | look in /etc/defaults/locale i think |
| 07:02.31 | mudge | how do i get the microphone to work? |
| 07:02.38 | dalias | errm default |
| 07:02.43 | zbychuk | Yes, but i chosed iso8859-2 on the instalation |
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| 07:04.17 | mudge | help |
| 07:04.22 | mudge | how to get microphone to work |
| 07:04.29 | mudge | or how to get alsamixer to work |
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| 07:07.24 | wols_ | !locale |
| 07:07.24 | dpkg | i heard locale is set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers) |
| 07:07.51 | bullgard4 | Where belongs sid in the following sequence: Sarge > Etch > Lenny? |
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| 07:08.49 | streuner | bullgard4: the logic is wrong |
| 07:09.06 | streuner | !history |
| 07:09.06 | dpkg | history is, like, old and boring or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ or ask me about <release history> for the reader's digest condensed version |
| 07:09.14 | bullgard4 | streuner: Put it right, please. |
| 07:09.40 | streuner | ask a real question, we arent here to answer in quiz-mode |
| 07:10.01 | streuner | or just read what the factoid told you |
| 07:10.56 | streuner | if you are planning to install sid, you need to read /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 07:11.17 | bullgard4 | we? |
| 07:12.51 | liable | who wants to bet sHe[14] is a spambot |
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| 07:13.40 | Guerin | liable: seems not |
| 07:14.05 | liable | Guerin: they dont always spam every join though |
| 07:14.13 | Guerin | quite |
| 07:14.27 | Guerin | and the smart ones have an auto-off for a minute or so on hearing `spambot' |
| 07:14.48 | liable | heh, never heard of that. good idea |
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| 07:17.36 | mudge | liable: I'm trying to get my microphone working |
| 07:17.49 | mudge | liable: but the only way I know of how to unmute it is by going into alsamixer |
| 07:17.57 | mudge | liable: and i can't get into alsamixer |
| 07:18.32 | liable | mudge: i guess you need to google the error and see if you can find an answer to it |
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| 07:18.52 | mudge | k |
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| 07:26.15 | Rothgar | Is there another way I can try and compile MySQL without having to extract the source to get SSL? |
| 07:26.28 | Rothgar | like using apt-get install with some args? |
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| 07:30.43 | wols_ | ept-get the source, edit the compile flags to include ssl and build the deb |
| 07:32.18 | Rothgar | I am trying that with MySQL but mysql-server-4.1 now downloads 5.0 and it won't compile |
| 07:35.37 | wols_ | there is no mysql-4,1 in debian anymore |
| 07:35.52 | wols_ | also, what error? how do you compile? what did you change? |
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| 07:38.50 | Rothgar | I just changed the openssl to enabled and disabled their new yassl |
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| 07:40.04 | Rothgar | I noticed |
| 07:40.39 | Rothgar | In installing a new package it asked about removing mysql-client and I said ok I rebooted and mysql-server had vanished and so now I need to try and work with mysql-server-5.0 |
| 07:41.37 | Rothgar | I noticed there was a problem when I tried removing mysql-client-5.0 thinking it was a client problem and when I used apt-get install mysql-client-4.1 and it downloaded 5 |
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| 07:44.48 | mudge | where is the sound drivers directory? |
| 07:44.49 | wols_ | I already told you there is no 4.1 in etch and above. also please answet my questions |
| 07:45.07 | wols_ | mudge: in your kernel modules directory, where else? |
| 07:45.37 | mudge | where's my kernel modules directory? |
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| 07:46.40 | liable | mudge: /lib/modules/<kernel version> |
| 07:46.40 | mudge | wols_: where's my kernel modules directory? |
| 07:46.48 | mudge | oh thanks |
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| 07:49.51 | mazzanet | hokay |
| 07:50.07 | mazzanet | whenever i install/upgrade kernel or grub related packages |
| 07:50.21 | Rothgar | wols_: apt-get build-dep mysql-server-4.1 apt-get source mysql-server-4.1 edit the rules file and then ./debian/rules binary |
| 07:50.23 | mazzanet | my /boot/grub/menu.lst gets rewritten (naturally) |
| 07:50.45 | mazzanet | but for some queer reason the script that do so think my root partition is hda3 |
| 07:50.49 | mazzanet | not md0 |
| 07:51.12 | liable | mazzanet: see the #kopt line in menu.list |
| 07:51.19 | Rothgar | It's failing on the binary |
| 07:52.02 | mazzanet | ah ha! |
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| 07:52.48 | mazzanet | is it just me or does the concept using comments as autoconfig options sound retarded? |
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| 07:53.30 | liable | mazzanet: it is confusing when you try and explain it to someone that dosnt understand, yep |
| 07:53.53 | mazzanet | :P |
| 07:54.12 | mazzanet | anyhow, brb reboot for kernel upgrade |
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| 07:56.54 | wols_ | !tell Rothgar about errors |
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| 07:59.43 | Rothgar | Yes hold on wols_: Just upgraded all packages on the system and re-trying |
| 08:00.14 | Rothgar | There were people mentioning the need to upgrade automake etc |
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| 08:00.55 | wols_ | since you add ssl, you will also need ssl dev packages |
| 08:01.13 | mazzanet | wooo kerneltastic |
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| 08:02.55 | Rothgar | Yeah I already used apt-get install libssl-dev as well wols_ :| |
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| 08:03.29 | Rothgar | I mean I had a working install of mysql-server-4.1 until this happened |
| 08:03.47 | Hiryu | using compiz dramatically hurts 3d game performance, is this a driver and/or compiz issue? Are there plans to fix it? anyone know? |
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| 08:05.00 | Aidy | hi |
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| 08:05.43 | Aidy | i've got a weird pidgin problem, the main window keeps enlarging itself - under any window manager |
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| 08:07.13 | Usiu | Hi |
| 08:07.39 | Usiu | How to change default x editor for *.c files. Because its anying when I get them opened in bluefish:( |
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| 08:08.57 | Aidy | Usiu: in gnome? |
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| 08:09.02 | Usiu | yes |
| 08:09.27 | Aidy | Usiu: just right click on the file, select properties and go to the 'open with' tab |
| 08:09.35 | Usiu | every time? |
| 08:09.37 | Usiu | :| |
| 08:09.39 | Hiryu | I'm seeing pretty different resource usage between running top as root and as a regular user |
| 08:09.41 | Aidy | Usiu: no |
| 08:09.46 | Hiryu | I didn't know linux's top differentiated |
| 08:09.48 | Usiu | I did |
| 08:09.59 | Usiu | but its again bluefish defualt one |
| 08:10.51 | Aidy | Usiu: http://omploader.org/vNDRs < like this right |
| 08:12.09 | Usiu | Aidy, couldnt get to that because it was in zip |
| 08:12.15 | harakeke | where can I get a log of chats in this room? I want to look at a conversation that occurred a couple of days ago |
| 08:12.19 | Usiu | Aidy, ok I changed this thanks |
| 08:12.36 | Usiu | Aidy, finally :) |
| 08:12.36 | Aidy | Usiu: ...? did you fix it |
| 08:12.38 | wols_ | #debian isn't logged |
| 08:12.40 | Aidy | Usiu: kay |
| 08:13.00 | Usiu | Aidy, yes.. extracted *.c file and changed in properties to default to gvim |
| 08:13.03 | harakeke | wols: so there's no way of looking at what was said 2 days ago? |
| 08:13.22 | wols_ | not really |
| 08:13.29 | Aidy | Usiu: oh aha |
| 08:13.41 | Usiu | Aidy, it was pain that bluefish |
| 08:13.43 | harakeke | hmmm. Ok thanks for your help. |
| 08:13.48 | Usiu | Thanks |
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| 08:14.32 | jakub_ | i hate this |
| 08:14.38 | jakub_ | i restarted computer and sound is not working |
| 08:15.27 | liable | are the modules loaded? |
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| 08:15.31 | jakub_ | yes |
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| 08:15.41 | jakub_ | but in alsa not |
| 08:15.45 | jakub_ | how to load modules to alsa |
| 08:15.55 | axscode | hi guys, where is the location of the downloaded packages by apt-get? |
| 08:15.57 | jakub_ | oading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload). |
| 08:15.57 | jakub_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:16.21 | liable | axscode: /var/cache/apt/archive |
| 08:16.30 | axscode | thanks liable... |
| 08:16.34 | liable | jakub_: do they show in lsmod? |
| 08:17.03 | jakub_ | yes |
| 08:17.06 | Rothgar | Well wols_: after updating every package on the system mysql-server-5.0 installed |
| 08:17.07 | axscode | liable: is the archive is dependent on the kernel? |
| 08:17.26 | axscode | or i can just use them? |
| 08:17.51 | liable | axscode: they are just the .deb for whatever you have installed. you can use whatever you want as long as the dependancies are satisfied |
| 08:18.00 | jakub_ | i try to restart |
| 08:18.53 | axscode | ok |
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| 08:20.49 | jakub_ | ee |
| 08:20.52 | jakub_ | it doesn`t work |
| 08:20.53 | jakub_ | :( |
| 08:20.55 | jakub_ | :'( |
| 08:21.14 | axscode | liable: so different .deb for sarge? and different .deb for etch 4? |
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| 08:22.34 | liable | axscode: different versions, yep. you can see the version in the name of the deb |
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| 08:23.11 | axscode | so its no use to copy them... and put it back after i install debian 4? im having debian 3.X now |
| 08:23.33 | jakub_ | fuck it |
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| 08:26.32 | wols_ | !tell axscode about reinstall |
| 08:26.52 | wols_ | axscode: but usually debian users just upgrade. we don't reinstall every other week like in windows |
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| 08:27.35 | wols_ | jakub_: what sound chip do you have? |
| 08:27.37 | liable | jakub_: is snd-pcm-oss loaded? |
| 08:28.16 | axscode | wols: i badly need to reformat and reinstall. :) |
| 08:28.26 | axscode | liable knows about it... |
| 08:28.46 | liable | axscode: why? |
| 08:29.02 | axscode | liable: remember yesterday about the kern for 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 08:29.06 | axscode | and its badly broke |
| 08:29.07 | liable | i have no idea why you are saying you need to reinstall |
| 08:29.10 | axscode | hehe.. BRB |
| 08:29.22 | axscode | the sd and the hd |
| 08:29.36 | liable | oh, from the other day? |
| 08:29.54 | wols_ | install new kernel, edit fstab and menu.lst. done |
| 08:30.13 | wols_ | if you fsck up: use a livecd to edit |
| 08:30.33 | jakub_ | hm |
| 08:30.36 | jakub_ | snd-hda-intel |
| 08:30.36 | jakub_ | i have |
| 08:31.41 | wols_ | then modprobe that if it's not already? |
| 08:32.43 | simonrvn | did some corp. have a hardware sale or something? |
| 08:32.54 | liable | why? |
| 08:33.06 | simonrvn | at least 3-4 times i've seen people ask about their sound on boxen using snd-hda-intel today |
| 08:33.26 | liable | heh, yeah, it has been funny like that |
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| 08:33.39 | wols_ | all new mainboards use the azalia spec, which means snd-hda-intel |
| 08:33.55 | simonrvn | i see. thanks for clarifying |
| 08:33.57 | liable | i have noticed that about some things on other days and wonder whether there was a digg article about some app or something :) |
| 08:34.00 | wols_ | it so happens that this driver is shit right now, especially for the myriad of different chips implementing that shitty spec |
| 08:34.12 | simonrvn | aah |
| 08:34.17 | wols_ | hnece. lotsa troubkles. trouble is almost guaranteed if you have hda sound |
| 08:34.33 | liable | mine worked out of the box a year ago :P |
| 08:35.29 | simonrvn | when i ran powermac as a desktop it was really simple. most of the powermac sound devices are an all-in-one codec |
| 08:35.34 | liable | will be interesting to see if my new mobo is gonna be a pita |
| 08:36.06 | simonrvn | snd-powermac, unsurprisingly |
| 08:36.08 | klys | in python: for name, value in parsed: --how to compare name to "string"? |
| 08:36.14 | wols_ | powermacs mean only one manufacturer who dictates the hardware |
| 08:36.30 | wols_ | not so in the IBM-PC world |
| 08:36.39 | wols_ | klys: ##python |
| 08:36.43 | simonrvn | yeh, in a way that's good, but in another it's bad, really bad ;) |
| 08:37.23 | jakub_ | yes |
| 08:37.27 | jakub_ | i modprobe it manually |
| 08:37.33 | jakub_ | but sound didn`t work too |
| 08:38.02 | liable | !alsa checklist |
| 08:38.02 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf as root user 2) add your user to the 'audio' group (log out and log again in) 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 8) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 08:38.03 | klys | wols_: it would appear rather empty from this vantage point |
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| 08:38.22 | wols_ | klys: then #python. it's a channel with several hundred people |
| 08:38.37 | wols_ | yes, #python it is |
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| 08:39.05 | iKernel | Does anyone know how I may run GDM in Xephyr? |
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| 08:41.59 | jakub_ | but alsaconf is in shit |
| 08:42.28 | jakub_ | Architecture-specific modutils configuration for x86_64 not found, using defaults |
| 08:42.28 | jakub_ | Loading driver... |
| 08:42.28 | jakub_ | Usage: /etc/init.d/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume} Setting default volumes... |
| 08:43.56 | click170 | Can someone point me to documentation for building a binary apt package? I've read through the New Maintainers Guide, but I am not working with the origional source code so I wasn't able to apply much of what I read. It did not seem to cover binary packages, is there more refined docs for that? |
| 08:44.42 | liable | click170: the developers reference might have something to say about it. |
| 08:44.52 | wols_ | debian applying the DFSG, why would there be any binary only packages? |
| 08:44.54 | liable | click170: or ask on #debian-mentors on oftc |
| 08:45.00 | jakub_ | alsaconf is in holy shit |
| 08:45.19 | click170 | liable: Thank you |
| 08:46.12 | liable | wols_: they might mention how to do it, even though you are right, no such package would make it into the main debian repo's |
| 08:46.33 | JosefAssad | hm, distrowatch is down |
| 08:46.44 | liable | your a particulary argumentative bastard today |
| 08:47.07 | click170 | The goal isn't to get it into the Debian repo's yet, its much much too soon for that. Its still in development, the only purpose of my package would be for ease of distribution for our testers. |
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| 08:48.05 | click170 | I've read the DFSG though, we'd like to do a source package down the road for that purpose, just not yet. |
| 08:48.51 | jakub_ | please help me :( |
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| 08:49.31 | liable | jakub_: go to alsa.org and see what they have to say about your specific chipset |
| 08:49.40 | jakub_ | but it works |
| 08:49.57 | liable | why do you need help then? |
| 08:49.58 | jakub_ | i was on this web |
| 08:50.06 | jakub_ | it works before fucking update |
| 08:50.13 | liable | hehe |
| 08:50.24 | liable | which fucking update? |
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| 08:50.29 | jakub_ | apt-get upgrade |
| 08:50.38 | liable | and what got upgraded? |
| 08:50.43 | jakub_ | dont know |
| 08:50.59 | liable | go check your logs then and try and track it down |
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| 08:54.33 | simonrvn | it's alsa-project.org |
| 08:54.41 | simonrvn | alsa.org is something else ;) |
| 08:54.46 | jakub_ | yes |
| 08:54.49 | jakub_ | i know |
| 08:54.54 | jakub_ | i try to reboot |
| 08:55.03 | simonrvn | !reboot |
| 08:55.04 | dpkg | you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2, or for chumps |
| 08:55.06 | simonrvn | damn |
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| 08:55.16 | liable | heh, i had a feeling alsa.org was wrong, but i couldnt be bothered double checking :) |
| 08:55.18 | simonrvn | !nuke windows |
| 08:56.59 | simonrvn | great, yet another package locking us into udev... |
| 08:57.25 | liable | avahi is another |
| 08:57.43 | liable | its hard not to have that fucking thing installed now |
| 08:57.48 | simonrvn | alsa-driver (1.0.14-2) unstable; urgency=low "Let linux-sound-base depend on udev." |
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| 08:59.57 | simonrvn | might as well just go back to using twm or something. i'm glad openbox doesn't need that shit |
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| 09:03.02 | iKernel | Does anyone know how I may run GDM in Xephyr? |
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| 09:04.11 | simonrvn | have gdm start xephyr (if it's what i think it is), not the other way around |
| 09:04.23 | iKernel | simonrvn, how? |
| 09:04.43 | simonrvn | add it; you could use gdmsetup for instance |
| 09:04.55 | simonrvn | servers section or something like that |
| 09:05.11 | iKernel | k |
| 09:05.12 | ko12upt | im making a installation cd this cd will copy everything in folder gichi os to a formated partition hda1. This folder contains the /boot and all the information is inside to load the system up. My question is do i need to edit the mbr to load the os or will it be fine as is |
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| 09:07.26 | simonrvn | iKernel: man gdm if you don't know |
| 09:07.35 | Usiu | Does debian have in packages documentation for SDL ?/ |
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| 09:07.47 | Usiu | Or devhelp package? |
| 09:07.51 | Usiu | for it |
| 09:07.58 | skript | what's the fastest way to check number of incoming/outgoing TCP connections ? |
| 09:08.10 | ko12upt | anyone have a answer to my question?? i was looking and didnt see one |
| 09:09.04 | liable | skript: netstat |
| 09:09.30 | skript | right, well... how can I see under netstat if a connection is out/in ? |
| 09:10.17 | Usiu | skript, is it channel about netstat ? |
| 09:10.20 | liable | the port its on in local address |
| 09:10.47 | simonrvn | ko12upt: there's a couple of live-cd and regular cd boot projects around. one based on debian, one on knoppix, and another for suse |
| 09:11.00 | simonrvn | Usiu: apt-cache search sdl doc |
| 09:11.14 | Usiu | simonrvn, nothing |
| 09:11.26 | Usiu | simonrvn, already did that |
| 09:11.29 | simonrvn | then it's probably in with the headers, sec |
| 09:11.45 | Usiu | simonrvn, but a year ago it was in devhelp |
| 09:11.56 | Usiu | simonrvn, I dont understand why its removed:( |
| 09:12.06 | skript | liable: ok... thanks |
| 09:12.10 | ko12upt | simonrvn yes i know i already have one i was just curious to see if i copied everything to a partition without editing the mbr if it will still load |
| 09:12.12 | simonrvn | devhelp? |
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| 09:13.00 | simonrvn | ko12upt: i think you have to... liable, could you confirm/deny this? |
| 09:13.45 | liable | i doubt it will boot unless the mbr knows about it |
| 09:13.54 | simonrvn | Usiu: and yeh, i did a quickie dpkg -L libsdl1.2-dev and saw a doc/ and html/ fly by |
| 09:14.05 | Usiu | simonrvn, yes I found it |
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| 09:14.27 | Usiu | simonrvn, but I am trying to figure out why its not in devhelp search tool |
| 09:14.39 | simonrvn | !+info devhelp |
| 09:14.41 | dpkg | devhelp: (A GNOME developers help program), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.15-1 (sid), Packaged size: 58 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 09:15.31 | simonrvn | Usiu: sounds like that's just for gtk and gnome dev stuff (according to the description) |
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| 09:15.57 | Usiu | a year ago it had also sdl |
| 09:16.06 | simonrvn | Devhelp's primary goal is to be an API documentation browser for GNOME. It is able to scan for .devhelp files generated automatically for packages that use gtk-doc-tools to generate documentation for libraries and programs. |
| 09:16.11 | simonrvn | oh yes, hold |
| 09:16.27 | simonrvn | in the recommends: book-python (<= 0.2-8), devhelp-book-pygtk2 (<= 0.2-8), devhelp-book-sdl (<= 0.2-8) |
| 09:16.47 | Usiu | simonrvn, sure but devhelp-book-sdl is not in database |
| 09:16.52 | ko12upt | thanks guys |
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| 09:17.07 | simonrvn | !+info devhelp-book-sdl |
| 09:17.08 | dpkg | Package 'devhelp-book-sdl' does not exist. |
| 09:17.13 | simonrvn | !+info devhelp-book-sdl etch |
| 09:17.14 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 09:17.15 | dpkg | Package 'devhelp-book-sdl' does not exist. |
| 09:17.24 | simonrvn | !+info devhelp-book-sdl lenny |
| 09:17.25 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 09:17.28 | dpkg | Package 'devhelp-book-sdl' does not exist. |
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| 09:17.58 | simonrvn | probably at archive.d.o ... |
| 09:18.19 | Usiu | well current devhelp conflicts those devhelp-book-.. |
| 09:18.25 | Usiu | and looks like its only for gtk;/ |
| 09:18.30 | chal | this email tells me how to do a fix but since it was fixedback in july if i download the source again no need to apply the fix its that true see the pastebin please http://pastebin.ca/699356 |
| 09:18.34 | Usiu | but it was really a good tool |
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| 09:19.29 | simonrvn | so talk to the maintainer then |
| 09:19.33 | simonrvn | Usiu: ^^^ |
| 09:20.43 | Usiu | simonrvn, funny just downloading it from sarge mirror |
| 09:20.52 | Usiu | simonrvn, but sid's devhelp conflicts it |
| 09:21.18 | simonrvn | well yeh, look at the recommends |
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| 09:22.28 | Usiu | simonrvn, jupi it works :) |
| 09:22.31 | Usiu | simonrvn, thanks |
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| 09:25.03 | chal | liable: 1oth October seems me in sunny NZ can't wait |
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| 09:25.53 | MrStein | Hi! Anyone has an URL to a grub floppy image at hand ? Or CD image ? thanks! |
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| 09:28.03 | ko12upt | http://paste.debian.net/37247 my modified code use to your pleasures it works well this is just a snipplet of what you would need |
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| 09:30.07 | jakub_ | shit |
| 09:30.10 | jakub_ | doesnt work |
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| 09:34.47 | jakub_ | hey |
| 09:34.51 | jakub_ | i have muted head |
| 09:34.55 | jakub_ | but i cant unmute it |
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| 09:36.58 | mbroeker | sounds strange, jakub_ |
| 09:37.13 | liable | jakub_: <> keys |
| 09:37.36 | jakub_ | ? |
| 09:37.45 | jakub_ | yes |
| 09:37.50 | jakub_ | but its down |
| 09:37.59 | jakub_ | the lines on left and right are down |
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| 09:38.15 | ma3x | how do I get the $euro char? |
| 09:39.41 | mbroeker | @ |
| 09:39.54 | mbroeker | press altr-q or shift-2 |
| 09:40.00 | jakub_ | :( |
| 09:40.07 | ma3x | not that one |
| 09:40.09 | ma3x | EURO |
| 09:40.18 | ma3x | the money currency, you know :) |
| 09:40.31 | ma3x | I tried pressing the compose key + = + E but it wont work |
| 09:40.57 | mbroeker | i meant that, sorry. |
| 09:41.41 | mbroeker | well, the euro-char is included in iso-8859-15 and in unicode |
| 09:43.20 | shingouz | ma3x: try altgr+e |
| 09:43.37 | ma3x | shingouz, it won't work |
| 09:43.43 | ma3x | my compose key is set to menu |
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| 09:43.48 | wols_ | ma3x: what locale? |
| 09:43.54 | ma3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.12 | wols_ | that is not your locale |
| 09:44.12 | ma3x | en_US ISO-8859 |
| 09:44.29 | wols_ | ma3x: learn to read what people tell you. until then: go away |
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| 09:44.51 | ma3x | what's the difference between these locales? |
| 09:44.59 | ma3x | the one includes the euro char and the other doesnt? |
| 09:45.25 | ma3x | iso-8859-15 should this be my default? |
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| 09:46.23 | ma3x | Generating locales (this might take a while)... en_US.ISO-8859-15... done Generation complete. perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
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| 09:46.30 | ma3x | why does it fail to set that as the default locale |
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| 09:47.11 | ptl | dpkg: pastebin |
| 09:47.11 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: pastebin pipe |
| 09:47.13 | ptl | dpkg: pastebin? |
| 09:47.13 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: pastebin pipe |
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| 09:47.34 | ma3x | you wante me to paste that? |
| 09:47.35 | liable | thats so fucking annoying |
| 09:47.50 | ma3x | what? |
| 09:47.55 | ma3x | I pasted one line |
| 09:47.57 | ko12upt | lol |
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| 09:48.24 | simonrvn | yup |
| 09:48.34 | iKernel | pastebin pipe |
| 09:48.36 | ma3x | what's so wrong about pasting one line? |
| 09:48.40 | iKernel | dpkg, pastebin pipe |
| 09:48.40 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and aptitude install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. |
| 09:48.53 | ma3x | ah you're reprogramming the bot, i see |
| 09:48.55 | ko12upt | wow thats sweet |
| 09:49.46 | wols_ | what weekday is it again? ah sunday... |
| 09:52.00 | iKernel | Does anyone know how I may run GDM in Xephyr? |
| 09:52.49 | liable | iKernel: change your gdm.conf to point to xephyr |
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| 09:53.42 | simonrvn | ffs i told him that an hour or so ago |
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| 09:54.58 | ma3x | and why can't I insert the € in kmail?? |
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| 09:55.12 | ma3x | I tried to rename the locale to end with -15 but it says 'not supported' |
| 09:55.16 | jakub__ | ohm y god |
| 09:55.17 | ma3x | how come? |
| 09:55.18 | jakub__ | oh my god |
| 09:55.20 | jakub__ | sorry for all |
| 09:55.22 | jakub__ | :-) i have muted my receiver |
| 09:55.24 | jakub__ | :-) |
| 09:55.56 | liable | !lart jakub__ |
| 09:56.01 | jakub__ | :D |
| 09:56.09 | L0cKn | !lart liable |
| 09:56.11 | L0cKn | :°°D |
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| 09:56.52 | leogenie | hello |
| 09:56.55 | leogenie | i need some help |
| 09:57.06 | leogenie | i am using debian etch |
| 09:57.14 | leogenie | i have some errors with dpkg |
| 09:57.21 | jakub__ | mu ? |
| 09:57.23 | jakub__ | what is .mu |
| 09:57.24 | jakub__ | :-) |
| 09:57.25 | leogenie | Preconfiguring packages ... |
| 09:57.25 | leogenie | dpkg: can't mmap package info file `/usr/bin/status': No such device |
| 09:57.29 | leogenie | .mu is mauritius |
| 09:57.32 | jakub__ | aha |
| 09:57.37 | jakub__ | do you have nice weather here ? |
| 09:57.42 | leogenie | yes |
| 09:57.46 | leogenie | nice weather |
| 09:57.48 | jakub__ | :) |
| 09:57.54 | leogenie | google "mauritius" |
| 09:57.55 | jakub__ | and you are from mauritius ? |
| 09:58.00 | leogenie | yeps |
| 09:58.03 | jakub__ | wow |
| 09:58.17 | jakub__ | what time do you have ? |
| 09:58.17 | leogenie | yea can you help me |
| 09:58.24 | jakub__ | no i dont understand dpkg |
| 09:58.27 | leogenie | its 1.58pm here |
| 09:58.36 | jakub__ | ehm |
| 09:58.42 | jakub__ | only + 2 hours ? |
| 09:58.46 | jakub__ | you are near europe ? |
| 09:58.50 | leogenie | nopes |
| 09:58.53 | leogenie | indian ocean |
| 09:59.04 | jakub__ | then 1.58am |
| 09:59.15 | simonrvn | a timezone spans 15 deg |
| 09:59.22 | leogenie | its sunday 16th september 1.59pm |
| 09:59.24 | ko12upt | oh talking about etch be used with 2.6.22.3-rc1-slh-smp-2 kernel |
| 09:59.28 | simonrvn | (exceptions exist) |
| 09:59.38 | ko12upt | can it be used with 2.6.22.3-rc1-slh-smp-2 |
| 09:59.41 | leogenie | can anyone help??? |
| 09:59.51 | jakub__ | linux worldwide |
| 09:59.55 | leogenie | ? |
| 09:59.56 | jakub__ | leogenie |
| 10:00.02 | leogenie | yes |
| 10:00.11 | jakub__ | go o o gle |
| 10:00.17 | leogenie | i tried that |
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| 10:00.23 | liable | never seen that error myself |
| 10:00.35 | leogenie | hehe |
| 10:00.46 | leogenie | can anyone tell me how to install dpkg from scratch |
| 10:01.00 | simonrvn | ko12upt: what? etch has 2.6.18, and that's going to be the recommended minimum pretty soon |
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| 10:01.08 | simonrvn | !tell leogenie -about repeat |
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| 10:01.34 | jakub_ | simonrvn: ehm.. |
| 10:01.38 | leogenie | ? |
| 10:01.49 | jakub_ | on google isn`t it.. :o |
| 10:01.51 | liable | simonrvn: do you know if they are still talking of kernel upgrades for stable? |
| 10:02.00 | jakub_ | maybe you deleted dpkg ? |
| 10:02.11 | ko12upt | simonrvn so its a pretty good idea to use sids kernel lets see right now im doing something pretty dumb im installing etch on top of 2.4 kernel can i later update the kernel to 2.6 with apt-get install? |
| 10:03.01 | ko12upt | the reason im doing it is because im lazy and dont want to look for a 2.6 kernel image .deb |
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| 10:04.00 | ko12upt | although i think it might be a great to look into matter a fact i think i will. But for now im doing it the stupid way and want to see if i can upgrade kenel after a installation |
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| 10:09.06 | ma3x | how come I can insert ¥ but not € |
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| 10:09.51 | jakub_ | hm |
| 10:09.53 | jakub_ | iceweasel in asshole |
| 10:10.04 | jakub_ | it freezes when i go to page |
| 10:10.05 | jakub_ | .. |
| 10:10.12 | ko12upt | lol |
| 10:10.33 | liable | hrm, from gerbils to weasels.. |
| 10:10.51 | ko12upt | to weasels in assholes |
| 10:11.01 | ko12upt | need some help to pull it out jakub |
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| 10:13.46 | jakub_ | fucking nspluginwrapper |
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| 10:14.42 | ko12upt | lol |
| 10:14.45 | ko12upt | ndiswrapper |
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| 10:20.32 | Penix | I wonder how many idlers are face down, asleep in front of their irc client while everyone rants... |
| 10:20.39 | Penix | I'm pretty close |
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| 10:22.57 | wols_ | Penix: we're just in other channels making fun of you Penix |
| 10:23.23 | Penix | I knew it. bastards |
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| 10:25.29 | ko12upt | bastard someone with out a father |
| 10:25.34 | ko12upt | i have a father |
| 10:25.42 | ko12upt | so i must not be a bastard |
| 10:26.32 | wols_ | just being born out of wedlock is enough |
| 10:26.32 | petemc | i think you mean born out of wedlock, everyone has a father |
| 10:26.33 | ko12upt | i am a awsome person i think there fore i am |
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| 10:27.05 | Penix | I referring strictly to the conspiring |
| 10:27.07 | Penix | was |
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| 10:27.51 | infinity0 | i have a bit of an annoying problem... my encyrpted partition on my external hard drive turns into read-only about 20 minutes after i boot up |
| 10:27.59 | infinity0 | remounting that partition fixes the problem though |
| 10:28.18 | infinity0 | but i was just wondering, how do i prevent it from hapenning in the first place, or can i write a shell-script that automatically remounts it when it turns read-only? |
| 10:28.45 | Gathond | infinity0: usually its remounted ro because the partition contains errore |
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| 10:29.04 | Gathond | in which case you really want to fix said errors, not just remount it rw |
| 10:29.05 | infinity0 | Gathond: what? no it turns read-only for no reason then i remount it *myself* |
| 10:29.06 | Penix | yeah. does errors=remount-ro apply to live, already mounted filesystems though? |
| 10:29.27 | Gathond | infinity0: I doubt its for no reason |
| 10:29.32 | liable | dont think so |
| 10:29.39 | Gathond | infinity0: is it mounted with errors=remount-ro ? |
| 10:29.40 | infinity0 | well obviosuly it's for a reason but it doesn't say anything, it seems completely random :| |
| 10:29.44 | infinity0 | hang on i'll check |
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| 10:30.11 | infinity0 | Gathond: actually no, it's mounted with "defaults" |
| 10:30.35 | infinity0 | which, given that my / is mounted with "defaults,errors=remount-ro" i think that excludes it.... but how do i check what "defaults" is? |
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| 10:31.07 | gynterk | I have firewall (eth0 - internet, eth1 - lan) how can I DENY all outgoing with iptables |
| 10:31.18 | infinity0 | oh here's what my dmesg says: |
| 10:31.19 | Gathond | good question, I'm not sure where defaults is defined |
| 10:31.41 | infinity0 | buffer I/O error on device dm-8, logical block 1794 |
| 10:31.59 | infinity0 | then: |
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| 10:32.42 | infinity0 | Aborting jounral on device dm-8 \n ext3_abort called. \n ETX3-fs error (device dm-8): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal \n Remounting filesystem read-only |
| 10:33.38 | Penix | defaults - "Use default settings. Equivalent to rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,asyn" |
| 10:33.47 | infinity0 | sd 0:0:0:0: Device not ready: <6>: Current: sense key: Not Ready \n Additional sense: Logial unit not ready, initializing command required \n end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 612406726 |
| 10:33.51 | Penix | async that is |
| 10:34.28 | liable | first thing i would do is backup my data |
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| 10:34.46 | infinity0 | yeah everything's on this computer, i'm in theprocess of copying everything to the other drive |
| 10:34.47 | blj | some how a file named "-f" got created in my folder |
| 10:34.52 | blj | how do i get rid of it |
| 10:34.56 | infinity0 | rm ./-f |
| 10:35.03 | blj | infinity0: thanks |
| 10:35.12 | infinity0 | np :) happened to myself a few days ago lol |
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| 10:35.29 | wols_ | infinity0: IDE or SATA disk? |
| 10:35.31 | blj | infinity0: hehe, thanks |
| 10:35.50 | infinity0 | wols_: external USB... the device name is sdb |
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| 10:36.20 | wols_ | then SMART tests are a PITA |
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| 10:36.37 | infinity0 | wols_: it says SCSI disk when i boot up debian |
| 10:36.41 | blj | on securing my VPS, do I have to do anything for protecting myself from DDOS? |
| 10:36.58 | infinity0 | wols_: was that SMART thing directed at me and if so what does that mean? |
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| 10:37.03 | Penix | heh |
| 10:37.08 | wols_ | !MSART |
| 10:37.11 | wols_ | !SMART |
| 10:37.11 | dpkg | well, smart is the opposite of stupid, or the opposite of straightforward and polite, or what I definitely am, or "Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology" used by some hard drive manufacturers to detect imminent drive failure, or see the smartmontools package. |
| 10:37.13 | Penix | !lose wols_ |
| 10:37.14 | dpkg | wols_: You Lose. |
| 10:37.20 | wols_ | and yes it was directed to you |
| 10:37.44 | infinity0 | and "PITA"? |
| 10:37.50 | wols_ | !PITA |
| 10:37.50 | dpkg | rumour has it, pita is pain in the ass or whats usually for supper :) |
| 10:37.55 | infinity0 | oh right |
| 10:38.33 | infinity0 | so... uh how does that relate to my situation? are you saying some tests that either linux/thedrive is doing is returning errors for no reason and screwing up the operation? |
| 10:38.44 | Penix | no |
| 10:38.45 | infinity0 | s/errors for no reason/false errors |
| 10:38.57 | Penix | he's saying you could have done SMART diagnostic tests |
| 10:38.57 | wols_ | I'm saying you should check if the drive is still good (ie no media errors) |
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| 10:39.28 | infinity0 | how do i do that? fsck? it runs every almost boot up on that disc, after it turns read-only and i restart without remounting |
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| 10:43.32 | infinity0 | Penix: how do i do SMART diagnostic tests? |
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| 10:47.26 | infinity0 | btw, the other non-encrypted partitions on that drive are completely fine, they're still writable even when the encrypted one isn't |
| 10:47.31 | infinity0 | so i don't think it's a disk problem |
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| 11:02.47 | liable | !moo |
| 11:02.47 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 11:02.53 | derchris | moo: os: Microsoft Windows XP Professional - Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600) up: 14hrs 8mins 3secs cpu: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz at 3000MHz (24% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT 256MB res: 1280x1024 32bit 75Hz ram: 1577/2046.5MB (77.05%) [||||||||--] hdd: C:\ 142.94MB/29.29GB D:\ 853.09MB/233.76GB E:\ 19.14MB/160.62GB F:\ 2.68GB/232.88GB G:\ 297.16MB/298.09GB net: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller _2 - Packet Sched |
| 11:03.06 | liable | derchris: who owns you? |
| 11:04.14 | liable | who want to bet that G is the pr0n drive? :) |
| 11:04.25 | ko12upt | how do you reinstall a package |
| 11:04.33 | liable | bah, i misread it as GB |
| 11:04.37 | ko12upt | apt-get reinstall |
| 11:04.47 | liable | ko12upt: install --reinstall man apt-get |
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| 11:10.38 | ko12upt | how do you force a package to install |
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| 11:10.46 | ko12upt | apt-get intstall -f |
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| 11:11.45 | ko12upt | how do you force a package to install |
| 11:12.19 | infinity0 | check the manual |
| 11:12.26 | petemc | you fix whatever stops it installing normallu |
| 11:13.17 | ko12upt | apt-get intstall --force-yes |
| 11:13.20 | ko12upt | muahhahahahha |
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| 11:14.10 | jelly-home | don't come back crying after that :-) |
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| 11:14.17 | ko12upt | :) |
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| 11:16.01 | liable | on the next upgrade he will :) |
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| 11:16.44 | ko12upt | liable im not gona do it |
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| 11:17.07 | Penix | why not? all the cool kids do |
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| 11:19.59 | ko12upt | because i was never cool |
| 11:20.05 | ko12upt | and never will be thats just life |
| 11:20.33 | liable | heh |
| 11:20.55 | liable | poor geek ;) |
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| 11:24.46 | chius | hallo |
| 11:24.59 | chius | I have a question... |
| 11:25.10 | yang | When I am trying to "run" the mailman file "filelist" the browser asks me if I want to download bin file |
| 11:25.13 | yang | its cgi related i think , I have php5-cgi installed |
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| 11:25.31 | chius | I hope that i can receive support from you |
| 11:25.32 | yang | chius: so, ask |
| 11:25.46 | chius | ok.... I have a server with debian |
| 11:25.54 | chius | and without xwindows |
| 11:26.17 | chius | It is an FTP server and I created a user called usuario |
| 11:26.39 | chius | I have ftp acces with such user and I close all access to other folders |
| 11:27.05 | chius | but...it is really interesting for me to create a link in usuario's folder |
| 11:27.21 | chius | ln -s /mmm/mmm /home/usuario |
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| 11:27.39 | chius | but when I access via ftp I can not access to this link |
| 11:28.00 | yang | chius: symlinks probably arent supported by your ftp server |
| 11:28.00 | chius | could you give few ideas how to give access to this link |
| 11:28.06 | chius | ahhh |
| 11:28.09 | chius | ok |
| 11:29.13 | chius | i am using..... |
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| 11:29.33 | chius | proftpd server |
| 11:29.40 | chius | what should I install |
| 11:30.55 | jelly-home | read its documentation; proftpd has a lot of options. |
| 11:31.10 | chius | allright |
| 11:31.54 | jelly-home | chius: you'll need to enable access to the symlinked directory too. |
| 11:32.21 | chius | editing /etc/proftpd.conf |
| 11:32.24 | chius | right? |
| 11:32.49 | jelly-home | that's where the configuration file is, yes |
| 11:33.11 | chius | lets try |
| 11:33.16 | chius | wait few seconds |
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| 11:34.04 | bkw | Are there any free x-win32 applications which makes it possible to run X applications from windows? |
| 11:34.30 | infinity0 | when i run fdisk -l, what does the + sign next to the Block size mean? |
| 11:35.06 | gener1c | im having issues setting the clock on gnome |
| 11:35.16 | gener1c | i try to but it doesnt respond |
| 11:35.22 | bkw | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xming might be useful |
| 11:35.36 | gener1c | happend to anyone? |
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| 11:36.29 | SaLoMoN | hey |
| 11:36.37 | SaLoMoN | sHe[14], does onjopin spamming |
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| 11:36.56 | liable | heh, i knew it |
| 11:37.18 | yang | !op sHe[14] onjoin spam |
| 11:37.32 | liable | !ops sHe[14] onjoin spambot |
| 11:37.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: liable complains about: sHe[14] onjoin spambot |
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| 11:37.43 | chal | hi |
| 11:37.53 | gener1c | humz |
| 11:38.05 | gener1c | my gnome clock doesnt respond when i try to set it |
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| 11:38.24 | yang | gener1c: have you tried with "tzconfig" |
| 11:38.26 | chal | which package in etch can i find the "head and tail" commands |
| 11:38.36 | gener1c | i will now |
| 11:38.53 | yang | gener1c: i think you will need "tzdata" package with it |
| 11:39.03 | hark | chal: coreutils |
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| 11:39.23 | chal | hark: thanks |
| 11:39.30 | yang | but maybe "tzconfig" isnt in lenny anymore hmmh...? |
| 11:39.31 | hark | chal: an essential package |
| 11:39.57 | hark | tzselect or dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 11:40.11 | gener1c | reinstalling tzdata |
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| 11:40.19 | hark | !set the time |
| 11:40.19 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch), dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid), and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
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| 11:41.16 | gener1c | reinstalling it fixed it how nice |
| 11:41.41 | Alley | I was reading an article about pinning sources. It keeps using "stable" instead of "etch" in the sources.list. When I tried to set up my "stable/testing/unstable" deb lines i the sources.list in the same way it complained that "stable" wasn't found. What is the right way? Must I specifix etch? Or should "stable" work? |
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| 11:41.47 | gener1c | you turned the satchuan chicken into live chicken ur that good |
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| 11:44.07 | phogg | Alley: stable should work |
| 11:44.11 | hark | stable should work, but it's better to use etch instead |
| 11:44.29 | phogg | especially for production systems |
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| 11:46.32 | Alley | I get W: Couldn't stat source package list http://debian.uni-essen.de stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/debian.uni-essen.de_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 11:46.42 | Alley | oops longer than I thought. Sorry. |
| 11:47.21 | liable | Alley: try another mirror |
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| 11:49.05 | hark | try http://debian.uni-essen.de/debian stable main |
| 11:49.11 | TrueDD | Salut à tous |
| 11:49.19 | TrueDD | hi all |
| 11:49.19 | hark | hi all ;) |
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| 11:56.03 | hark | !qotd0 |
| 11:56.03 | dpkg | methinks qotd176 is < raf256> Why debian devel decided to curse debian with constant farting out of the box? |
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| 12:00.54 | nvz_ | I feel stupid having read that |
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| 12:02.37 | DustyDingo | is it possible, that i only can play the tutorial island in pingus? |
| 12:02.55 | infinity0 | !xfs |
| 12:02.55 | dpkg | hmm... xfs is the filesystem developed by SGI for high-performance journalling and large disk support. see http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ or http://www.lwfug.org/debian/ for xfs deb tools and deb kernels, or far better and more mature than <reiserfs>, but not as mature (in linux) as <ext3>. It notoriously loses data if you have unexpected power failures. |
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| 12:06.49 | Nyle | Azar: man |
| 12:06.56 | Nyle | I have to take a freakin bus to work today |
| 12:07.05 | nvz | dude, where's my car? |
| 12:07.09 | Nyle | I don't have any license plates |
| 12:07.16 | Nyle | my car is in my friends garage |
| 12:08.01 | nvz | dude, what's mine say? :P |
| 12:08.09 | Nyle | it was my neighborhood, a safe/good one, apparantly not, becuase I parked my car there and 1 hour later I come back, and my plates were missing |
| 12:08.12 | Nyle | shibby! |
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| 12:15.34 | Snapser | bounce |
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| 12:15.54 | Snapser | bounce |
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| 12:16.11 | liable | ok. stop it now. |
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| 12:16.21 | darrh00 | how to block link "target=blank or taget=new" from open new window in epiphany-broswer 2.18? |
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| 12:17.28 | Snapser | I made a greasemonkey script for that |
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| 12:17.36 | Snapser | annoying target="blank"!!! |
| 12:17.59 | infinity0 | can someone give me a quick summary of xfs vs. jfs? |
| 12:18.14 | darrh00 | Snapser:where can I find your greasemonkey script |
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| 12:18.20 | Snapser | on my HDD |
| 12:18.24 | Snapser | want it? |
| 12:18.30 | Snapser | (the script, not the HDD) |
| 12:18.33 | Snapser | :P |
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| 12:18.50 | spiralvoice | Hi, I am busy setting up Mailman on Debian Etch. I would like to make the archives searchable, for example using htdig but according to http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#1.11 this would require a re-compile, does a pre-compiled package already exist for this? |
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| 12:19.03 | darrh00 | yes!I can block it in epiphany 2.16 but when I upgrade to debian sid,all my setting stop working. |
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| 12:19.16 | [DCH]Bret | how do i install screen on debian? |
| 12:19.21 | [DCH]Bret | apt-get screen ? |
| 12:19.27 | liable | same way you install everything |
| 12:19.55 | [DCH]Bret | I'm new to linux |
| 12:19.58 | [DCH]Bret | So i don't know. |
| 12:20.05 | [DCH]Bret | This is a server by the way |
| 12:20.07 | liable | !reference |
| 12:20.08 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/#contents . Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install debian-reference'. |
| 12:20.14 | liable | apt-get install screen |
| 12:20.20 | [DCH]Bret | thanks |
| 12:20.25 | liable | read that reference though |
| 12:20.39 | Snapser | hold on |
| 12:20.39 | [DCH]Bret | done |
| 12:21.00 | [DCH]Bret | thanks |
| 12:21.17 | Snapser | darrh00, is it "_blank" or "blank" |
| 12:21.24 | Snapser | (I'm fixing the script a little) |
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| 12:22.31 | Snapser | n/m... it's both |
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| 12:24.02 | darrh00 | Snapser:yes,both |
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| 12:27.00 | robboplus | can you link another homedir into yours and make it visible via vsFTPD? |
| 12:27.01 | [DCH]Bret | how do unzip in console? :s i typed unzip and the file but it didnt work. |
| 12:27.06 | [DCH]Bret | it is a .zip folder |
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| 12:27.20 | [DCH]Bret | -bash: Command Not Found |
| 12:27.36 | et | then install it? |
| 12:27.59 | liable | [DCH]Bret: there are such things as man pages in linux. i suggest you start learning how to learn them |
| 12:28.05 | benluo | hi |
| 12:28.15 | benluo | who use dovecot in testing? |
| 12:28.18 | spiralvoice | [DCH]Bret: apt-get install unzip |
| 12:28.18 | liable | s/learn/use/ |
| 12:28.36 | spiralvoice | benluo: whats the problem? |
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| 12:29.13 | [DCH]Bret | ty |
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| 12:29.56 | benluo | spiralvoice: i whant to know if dovecot include sieve plugin |
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| 12:30.07 | chal | hi |
| 12:30.57 | yang | When I am trying to "run" the mailman file "filelist" the browser asks me if I want to download bin file |
| 12:31.02 | yang | and cgi module is also enabled |
| 12:31.15 | spiralvoice | benluo: I think it does, files like lib90_cmusieve_plugin.* are present in /usr/lib/dovecot, but I never used sieve myself |
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| 12:31.45 | et | benluo: it does (and it does so in stable already) |
| 12:31.59 | benluo | spiralvoice: how do you control the *spam* mail filtered by spamassian? |
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| 12:32.26 | benluo | et: i want to know how to del spam in dovecot. I use virtual mailbox |
| 12:32.42 | chal | i have installed coreutils so the commands "head and tail" are there but when i invoke a command i get "tail" command not found here is the line does it look ok? |
| 12:32.48 | benluo | when i used "real" mailbox, i can use procmail to do so |
| 12:32.49 | spiralvoice | benluo: My MTA is Exim, it uses Spamassassin, I do not use Dovecot deliver |
| 12:32.50 | chal | head -c 3172 /dev/urandom | uuencode -m - | grep -v ==== | \ |
| 12:32.50 | chal | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.25 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 12:33.31 | wols_ | chal: which tail |
| 12:33.52 | et | benluo: i don't use virtual mailboxes, but sorting junk out is done in my sieve rules with fileinto/stop |
| 12:34.02 | chal | wols: what do you mean which tail |
| 12:34.20 | Nyle | wols_'s tail |
| 12:34.30 | Mazingaro | please I've got a problem with bluetooth: two identical usb adapters on different pcs: hcitool scan on one found the other, hcitool scan on the other found nothing. hcid.conf are the same |
| 12:34.31 | benluo | et: so you don't use procmail to del/sort junk? |
| 12:34.36 | et | no. |
| 12:34.53 | benluo | et: thanx |
| 12:35.06 | benluo | et: do use use postfix+dovecot? |
| 12:35.28 | et | yes. |
| 12:35.31 | wols_ | chal: I told you what to run |
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| 12:35.52 | chal | ok sorry i understand |
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| 12:35.57 | SF7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.59 | wols_ | et: dovecot has sieve now? |
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| 12:36.10 | benluo | et: could you give me a config for sieve as example? |
| 12:36.16 | wols_ | SF7: of course. depends if your BIOS can do it tho |
| 12:36.24 | et | benluo: there are literally hundreds of them on the web |
| 12:36.39 | wols_ | et: what does sieve use for mailstorage? anything else ebsides maildir? |
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| 12:36.43 | chal | wois /usr/bin/tail |
| 12:36.59 | wols_ | chal: so it's installed and found. check your PATH perhaps |
| 12:37.07 | benluo | et: ok. let me google |
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| 12:37.27 | et | anything that the dovecot lda handles, i'd think - i don't know though, as i use maildir |
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| 12:38.09 | wols_ | maildir gets klinda icky if you have >10k mails in a folder... |
| 12:38.21 | SF7 | my BIOS confuses me: in the boot section is says ' if you want to boot off USB, you have to enable usb-booting '. but it is enabled, and still no option appears in the Boot section. |
| 12:38.31 | benluo | wols_: ? |
| 12:38.52 | SF7 | I wonder if the BIOS has an error.. |
| 12:38.55 | et | wols_: better alternatives? |
| 12:38.55 | assasukasse | hi all, i have a question, how can i see what is typing an user in ssh on my machine? |
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| 12:39.59 | chal | wois_ how to check |
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| 12:40.31 | et | chal: use tabcompletion to adress people, then you don't make spelling errors ;) |
| 12:41.29 | chal | et: yes ok |
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| 12:42.02 | wols_ | et: better is in the eye of the beholder. I use cyrus right now |
| 12:42.26 | wols_ | chal: echo $PATH |
| 12:43.28 | benluo | wols_: for IMAP? |
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| 12:43.45 | wols_ | for what else would I use it? |
| 12:44.00 | benluo | hoho |
| 12:45.33 | DustyBin | 12:44:16 up 25 days, 4:04, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 (c)Debian Etch |
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| 12:45.38 | chal | wois_ : /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 12:45.46 | sanmarcos | is there a way to find what memory dimms I have in what slots from the command line? |
| 12:46.05 | phogg | sanmarcos: lshw might say |
| 12:46.40 | benluo | samiam: top |
| 12:46.45 | benluo | sanmarcos: top |
| 12:47.01 | benluo | sanmarcos: are you from Windows ? |
| 12:47.11 | sanmarcos | I dont own windows computers |
| 12:47.36 | xingu | sanmarcos: dmidecode |
| 12:47.37 | sanmarcos | where does top display that info? |
| 12:47.55 | chal | wols: thats from root |
| 12:47.56 | xand | top doesn't show that. |
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| 12:48.28 | benluo | sanmarcos: :) |
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| 12:48.53 | Snapser | sanmarcos, What did you use before Linux? |
| 12:48.58 | sanmarcos | I dont use Linux |
| 12:49.02 | DustyBin | Linux 2.6.16.33-xenU |
| 12:49.13 | sanmarcos | i use Mac OS X on all my desktop computers and I have a linux server |
| 12:49.13 | Snapser | sander, then why are you asking for help in #debian ? |
| 12:49.20 | xand | sanmarcos: why are you asking us then? |
| 12:49.26 | DustyBin | sanmarcos: os x is a nice desktop |
| 12:49.33 | sanmarcos | its the only decent unix desktop |
| 12:49.47 | sanmarcos | because #debian has a lot of people with talent, and #ubuntu is full of newbies |
| 12:49.59 | sanmarcos | and its an ubuntu server, but the fact remains, the tools are the same on each os |
| 12:50.07 | liable | so use debian |
| 12:50.11 | sanmarcos | either way, thanks, dmidecode fixed it |
| 12:50.29 | xand | you said "I dont use Linux"... so #ubuntu won't help either |
| 12:50.40 | sanmarcos | I have an ubuntu server |
| 12:50.49 | Snapser | !tell sander ubuntu |
| 12:50.53 | xand | bye bye |
| 12:50.55 | sanmarcos | goodbye |
| 12:50.56 | Snapser | !tell sanmarcos ubuntu |
| 12:51.00 | sanmarcos | I dont have time for this bullshit |
| 12:51.02 | sanmarcos | thanks for the help |
| 12:51.03 | sanmarcos | get a mac! |
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| 12:51.15 | Snapser | lol |
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| 12:52.17 | Snapser | !tell ubuntu |
| 12:52.19 | DustyBin | silly sod |
| 12:52.20 | Snapser | aww |
| 12:52.31 | Snapser | how does it work? |
| 12:52.47 | xand | !ubuntu |
| 12:52.48 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 12:52.50 | Snapser | dpkg tell Snapser about ubuntu |
| 12:53.01 | wols_ | !trell Snapser about selftell |
| 12:53.06 | wols_ | !tell Snapser about selftell |
| 12:53.12 | Snapser | dpkg tell wols_ about ubuntu |
| 12:53.16 | liable | !typosmite wols_ |
| 12:53.33 | wols_ | liable: by now I know that damn book by heart. be gone! |
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| 12:54.13 | Snapser | !! |
| 12:54.14 | dpkg | I'm not your fucking csh prompt. |
| 12:54.18 | wols_ | better put my brain back in its proper place |
| 12:54.22 | w0nder | hey can anyone assist me with getting my bluetooth keyboard and mouse working in my new debian install? |
| 12:54.34 | liable | eww |
| 12:54.42 | wols_ | stay away from my packet you perv! |
| 12:54.49 | chal | wols_: the echo $PATH from root is /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 12:54.53 | w0nder | it's malformed :o |
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| 12:55.09 | w0nder | xo |
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| 12:55.22 | wols_ | w0nder: you just have never seen a packet that big, that's all |
| 12:55.30 | liable | snickers is prolly a better word :) |
| 12:55.30 | w0nder | :D :D |
| 12:55.34 | w0nder | bahahaha |
| 12:55.45 | karmatronic | !sunday |
| 12:55.46 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 12:55.47 | w0nder | wols_ is now known as snickers |
| 12:56.00 | w0nder | ok |
| 12:56.07 | w0nder | so bluetooth, debian |
| 12:56.12 | liable | karmatronic: were you confused as to which day it was? |
| 12:56.13 | Snapser | !yaoi |
| 12:56.21 | liable | Snapser: leave the bot alone |
| 12:56.26 | karmatronic | yeah i had a doubt :) |
| 12:56.29 | [DCH]Bret | how do i unzip a tar.bz2 file? It says file cannot be found when i do the tar jzvf or whatever it is. |
| 12:56.40 | w0nder | how's it done? i plugged in my little ms bluetooth dongle and nothing happens... added some (what i thought were relevant) bluetooth apps from synaptic.. nothings happening |
| 12:56.47 | abrotman | [DCH]Bret: is bzip2 installed ? |
| 12:56.53 | [DCH]Bret | guess not |
| 12:56.55 | wols_ | !bt |
| 12:56.55 | dpkg | bt sux0rs. Bhutan, or bluetooth. British Telecom, or bittorrent |
| 12:56.57 | [DCH]Bret | apt-get install bzip2 |
| 12:56.59 | [DCH]Bret | ? |
| 12:57.08 | liable | [DCH]Bret: we are not your private man page. you have a lot of ways to find info out. i suggest you start using them |
| 12:57.11 | wols_ | w0nder: check dmesg |
| 12:57.22 | [DCH]Bret | Well, if people in here can do it quicker. Why bother? |
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| 12:57.32 | wols_ | liable: you can be my public man page. pretty please? |
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| 12:57.37 | ricardops | Hi Everyone !!! |
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| 12:57.55 | wols_ | [DCH]Bret: sure way to get ignore. have fun solving your own problems in the future alone |
| 12:58.01 | wols_ | *ignored |
| 12:58.13 | gryfie_ | I need a hint: Wich packet was able to copy and paste in the console? |
| 12:58.14 | wols_ | liable: please make sure you vomit all over [DCH]Bret |
| 12:58.32 | ricardops | Somobody can help me please !!! I lost icons locate in desktop in Gnome. How i do to restore the icons in desktop ? |
| 12:58.33 | wols_ | gryfie_: package you mean? gpm or screen |
| 12:58.39 | w0nder | shit wols_ how? |
| 12:58.48 | wols_ | w0nder: how what? |
| 12:58.56 | w0nder | check dmesg |
| 12:58.57 | Snapser | private man page sounds hawt~~~ |
| 12:59.07 | liable | ricardops: calm down. icons aren't the end of the world |
| 12:59.08 | wols_ | w0nder: man dmesg |
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| 12:59.13 | w0nder | bah! |
| 12:59.14 | w0nder | ok |
| 12:59.14 | w0nder | th |
| 12:59.16 | w0nder | thx |
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| 12:59.19 | abrotman | yay! |
| 12:59.21 | liable | sucker |
| 12:59.28 | chal | wols_ : we were chatting about the "tail" command and you suggested i check PATH this is how it is from root /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 12:59.42 | Snapser | chal, too little too late |
| 12:59.57 | wols_ | chal: ever heard of that concept "thinking for yourself"? |
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| 13:00.15 | wols_ | where is the tail bianry located and what does PATH say? |
| 13:00.16 | gryfie_ | woks: Yes, I meaned package ;) Thx for awnsering |
| 13:00.18 | Snapser | (for not commenting on my message :* ) |
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| 13:00.43 | w0nder | ?! :o |
| 13:00.46 | Snapser | lol |
| 13:00.54 | xand | hy mi brane izunt wurking can u halp?!!!?! |
| 13:00.56 | wols_ | abrotman: please make apple pie instead. I am hungry |
| 13:01.13 | abrotman | wols_: you're my cherry pie ? |
| 13:01.13 | w0nder | wols_ i got the dmesg up, and it lokos like it recognized the usb dongle as a HID device.. was able to name it and such.. ?? |
| 13:01.14 | wols_ | there. all better now? |
| 13:01.38 | Snapser | w0nder, you type too many lines in a short amount of time, and debhelper thought you were pasting (which you must use external tools to do) |
| 13:01.46 | wols_ | abrotman: depends if you think my package is malformed or not |
| 13:01.50 | w0nder | thanks Snapser |
| 13:02.24 | liable | whilst the package is.. |
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| 13:02.31 | w0nder | input: Microsoft Wireless Entertainment Keyboard 7000 as /class/input/input4 |
| 13:03.09 | Snapser | Microsoft engineered those so that hey only work on Windows XP and Vista |
| 13:03.14 | w0nder | so it sees the usb dongle.... but i dont see a bluetooth manager anywehere... |
| 13:03.15 | Snapser | *they |
| 13:03.17 | liable | oh rly? |
| 13:03.19 | w0nder | fuck that |
| 13:03.22 | w0nder | no way |
| 13:03.22 | chal | wols_ : the binary is located in /usr/bin |
| 13:03.22 | Snapser | jk/s |
| 13:03.31 | wols_ | w0nder: tasksel laptop. int install BT tuff as well |
| 13:03.37 | w0nder | jerk |
| 13:04.08 | wols_ | but if I were you I'd google for a howto or whatever about BT keyboards |
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| 13:04.12 | liable | w0nder: i suggest you read some bluetooth docs |
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| 13:04.48 | w0nder | i've been googling all morning... been looking mainly for debian-specifc |
| 13:04.52 | w0nder | but i guess I'll have to be more generic |
| 13:04.53 | chal | wols_ : and part of the path refers to /usr/bin:/sbin |
| 13:04.54 | Snapser | I still think that whole "private man pages" thing it a hot idea |
| 13:05.17 | abrotman | bluetooth sucks |
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| 13:05.41 | Snapser | abrotman, what do you prefer? |
| 13:05.58 | liable | belly button lint |
| 13:05.58 | wols_ | Snapser: rodents with tails |
| 13:06.00 | abrotman | wireless usb! |
| 13:06.35 | GNUtoo | hello, there is 3 dvd for each arch??? i saw multi-arch dvd...what's the difference? |
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| 13:07.21 | wols_ | where did you see the multi arch dvd? |
| 13:07.58 | et | wols_: i think the dovecot indexing helps with the maildir format too |
| 13:08.14 | abrotman | there's a multiarch netinst |
| 13:08.21 | wols_ | to be fair, last time I used maildir was with courier |
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| 13:08.45 | chal | wols: how about PATH=/usr/bin |
| 13:08.47 | wols_ | and opening a 10k folder on a IDE PIO mode 3 harddisk took ages :) |
| 13:09.03 | abrotman | cyrus does |
| 13:09.24 | GNUtoo | wols_, here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ |
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| 13:10.01 | wols_ | abrotman: cyrus does what? |
| 13:10.05 | abrotman | porn |
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| 13:10.23 | wols_ | must be the new version I don't have yet |
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| 13:11.29 | chal | wols_ : or maybe echo 'set path = ($path /usr/local/bin)' >> ~/.cshrc |
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| 13:14.34 | jduggan_ | is there a set date when support for sarge disappears? |
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| 13:14.43 | jduggan_ | or any information where i can read up on it |
| 13:14.54 | liable | jduggan_: not set in stone |
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| 13:16.12 | abrotman | jduggan_: it won't disappear .. just stop getting updates |
| 13:16.26 | jduggan_ | yea |
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| 13:16.32 | jduggan_ | i meant sec updates |
| 13:16.34 | chal | wols_ the starnge thing is that " head" command is also in usr/bin/head and how come in the command i invoked the command "head" was found but the command "tail" was not they both reside in /usr/bin? |
| 13:16.37 | abrotman | jduggan_: roughly a year after etch's release |
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| 13:17.58 | eyalgr | hi |
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| 13:25.08 | TheMafia | I do not have a /dev/nst0, do I have to create it? /dev/st0 exists and works fine for backups |
| 13:25.59 | wols_ | which would mean sarge is supported til april next year |
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| 13:27.21 | abrotman | YYES |
| 13:27.35 | liable | o_0 |
| 13:27.36 | abrotman | wols_: isn't that what i said? :) |
| 13:28.38 | wols_ | abrotman: sorry. I have you on selective ignore |
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| 13:29.04 | abrotman | wols_: you're not my wife! |
| 13:29.26 | liable | is that like how my father used to selsctively ignore everything that asked him to do something? |
| 13:29.47 | abrotman | liable: he was a sheep |
| 13:29.59 | liable | boring |
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| 13:30.29 | Kobaz | anyone know how to turn off tap-to-click with a synaptics touchpad in linux? |
| 13:30.41 | monkeyBox_ | Is there a way to see what package installed a certain file? |
| 13:30.49 | abrotman | monkeyBox_: man dpkg |
| 13:30.59 | Kobaz | monkeyBox_: cat /var/lib/info/dpkg/package.list |
| 13:31.07 | Kobaz | monkeyBox_: replace package with the name of the package |
| 13:31.24 | liable | Kobaz: thats a terrible way to do it :P |
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| 13:31.30 | Kobaz | monkeyBox_: for example: at /var/lib/dpkg/info/bash.list |
| 13:31.30 | Kobaz | haha |
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| 13:31.31 | abrotman | Kobaz: wtf ... |
| 13:31.34 | Kobaz | why is it terrible? |
| 13:31.37 | Kobaz | it's really fast |
| 13:31.39 | abrotman | it's AWFUL |
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| 13:31.41 | monkeyBox_ | Kobaz: well, I don't know the package, that's what I'mtrying to figure out |
| 13:31.45 | Kobaz | it's fast :( |
| 13:31.47 | abrotman | and wrong |
| 13:31.48 | wols_ | abrotman: so you're still in that backwater country without same sex marriage? how fundamentalist |
| 13:31.54 | Kobaz | monkeyBox_: dpkg -S <file> |
| 13:31.55 | monkeyBox_ | Kobaz: I want to know what package installed a certain file |
| 13:31.59 | abrotman | wols_: i thought you were a girl |
| 13:32.06 | abrotman | monkeyBox_: man dpkg |
| 13:32.06 | wols_ | monkeyBox_: dpkg -S |
| 13:32.07 | liable | hah |
| 13:32.13 | monkeyBox_ | thanks :) |
| 13:32.15 | abrotman | apt-file also works |
| 13:32.17 | abchirk | np |
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| 13:32.31 | wols_ | abrotman: the republica congresscritter "( thoguth he was a girl and she only gave me a massage" doesn't work here |
| 13:32.42 | Kobaz | abrotman: i was half reading, i thought he wanted the files in a specific package |
| 13:32.43 | liable | oh my |
| 13:32.52 | abrotman | Kobaz: it's still an awful solution :) |
| 13:32.57 | Kobaz | but but |
| 13:33.00 | wols_ | btw: how about a massage? |
| 13:33.05 | Kobaz | abrotman: okay. so what do you do |
| 13:33.24 | abrotman | Kobaz: dpkg -L |
| 13:33.28 | monkeyBox_ | Ugh. I'm trying to get my NFS server running, and my client has /etc/hosts.allow but my server does not. I need to configure that file on my server but can't figure out which package installs it. |
| 13:33.32 | Kobaz | oh |
| 13:33.35 | Kobaz | abrotman: haha |
| 13:33.40 | Kobaz | abrotman: yeah that is nice, hmm |
| 13:33.46 | abrotman | Kobaz: which i believe also includes conffiles .. which yours wouldn't |
| 13:33.48 | monkeyBox_ | running dpkg -S on the client (which has the file) just says "not found" |
| 13:33.50 | wols_ | monkeyBox_: none. just create it |
| 13:33.56 | Kobaz | abrotman: well then you cat package.conffiles |
| 13:34.03 | abrotman | Kobaz: or dpkg -L and get both! |
| 13:34.06 | Kobaz | :) |
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| 13:34.27 | wols_ | monkeyBox_: but probably tcpwrappers (which should already be installed) |
| 13:34.29 | liable | neither will show a dynamically crested conf file |
| 13:34.32 | monkeyBox_ | wols_: I'm concerned that I don't have a necessary package |
| 13:34.33 | SakalR | hi men |
| 13:34.39 | abrotman | liable: right |
| 13:34.48 | wols_ | monkeyBox_: have you installed nfs via apt? |
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| 13:35.01 | Kobaz | anyways |
| 13:35.02 | Kobaz | hmk |
| 13:35.08 | SakalR | I have problem with ipw3945 driver on laptop hp nc6400 |
| 13:35.11 | monkeyBox_ | wols_: yes, I've installed unfs |
| 13:35.15 | Kobaz | anyone know how to turn off tap-to-click with a touchpad in x? |
| 13:35.28 | liable | Kobaz: google does |
| 13:35.32 | SakalR | ) |
| 13:35.37 | wols_ | mephis: then you have all needed packages, otherwise apt wouldn't have installed it |
| 13:35.45 | Kobaz | google actually has been holding back on me |
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| 13:36.14 | abrotman | Kobaz: don't you just not use the synaptics driver ? |
| 13:36.31 | liable | Kobaz: |
| 13:36.37 | SakalR | may be some body know, how to fix trouble with this message "Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work" ? |
| 13:36.40 | liable | http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=synaptic+turn+off+tap+to+select&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
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| 13:36.48 | Shadowcat | has anyone tried building the i586 java package on the amd64 port? |
| 13:36.53 | liable | no |
| 13:36.54 | Shadowcat | please don't tell me I need a chroot for this |
| 13:37.02 | Kobaz | hmm |
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| 13:37.11 | Shadowcat | otherwise liable hangs :P |
| 13:37.14 | Shadowcat | just for the hell of it |
| 13:37.38 | wols_ | Shadowcat: sun jdk? |
| 13:37.45 | liable | checken |
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| 13:37.57 | Kobaz | liable: see i've tried that stuff, changing maxtaptime didnt do anything |
| 13:37.58 | liable | i was about to unless the wrath of liable |
| 13:38.04 | Kobaz | liable: i'll monkey with some more stuff |
| 13:38.10 | monkeyBox_ | I basically can't figure out why I keep getting "Permission denied" when trying to mount NFS on the client. |
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| 13:38.47 | monkeyBox_ | The line in /etc/exports is: /media/video 192.168.0.0/32(rw,no_root_squash) |
| 13:38.50 | liable | jebus, wols_'s typing tardness is catchable |
| 13:38.58 | [DCH]Bret | how do list the processes running on my machine? |
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| 13:39.29 | abrotman | !tell [DCH]Bret about grounding |
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| 13:39.54 | liable | tell him about being a lazy cunt |
| 13:40.08 | abrotman | is actually using debian ? |
| 13:40.12 | [DCH]Bret | =D |
| 13:40.22 | abrotman | i didn't think so |
| 13:40.27 | [DCH]Bret | Yes, i am lazy |
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| 13:41.38 | [DCH]Bret | !tell [DCH]Bret about grinding |
| 13:41.48 | [DCH]Bret | woops |
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| 13:41.52 | [DCH]Bret | !tell [DCH]Bret about grounding |
| 13:41.57 | abrotman | i already fucking told you |
| 13:41.58 | liable | we dont have skateboarding factoids :P |
| 13:42.06 | abrotman | !dance |
| 13:42.09 | z3us0ne | i try to install debian with lite cd version, at this moment it says scanning mirror, and is blocked to 40% anche the lan led blinkin! |
| 13:42.38 | abrotman | lite cd ? |
| 13:42.40 | abrotman | netinst ? |
| 13:42.44 | z3us0ne | yes |
| 13:42.47 | liable | why is there so many people having problems with the netinst lately? |
| 13:42.50 | [DCH]Bret | The ubuntu place is much friendlier than this shithole.. lol |
| 13:42.52 | abrotman | try another mirror |
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| 13:43.00 | abrotman | yay! |
| 13:43.18 | liable | typical ubuntu lazy tard |
| 13:43.23 | z3us0ne | for exit from this scanning process? |
| 13:43.33 | Ronin | im telling you ubuntu makes one stupid |
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| 13:45.59 | cast | morning. |
| 13:46.01 | z3us0ne | i try to press esc but don't work |
| 13:46.53 | liable | does the installer have kill on the other terms? |
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| 13:47.29 | liable | z3us0ne: press alt+F2 and try pkill aptitude |
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| 13:48.43 | liable | i had a great deal of fun with an old etch rc installer the other day |
| 13:48.56 | liable | just about everything that could go wrong did |
| 13:49.09 | dvs | liable: and this is fun? |
| 13:49.35 | liable | dvs: it is when you beat the fucker and get your system working :) |
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| 13:49.55 | dvs | liable: I'd prefer video games instead. ;-) |
| 13:50.13 | liable | i dont like games :( |
| 13:50.30 | liable | i wish i could waste hours away on them, but they shit me to tears |
| 13:50.48 | liable | gimme a pinball though, and i can do so |
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| 13:51.20 | dvs | pinball? yuck! I hate those things. Could never make them last long. |
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| 13:51.34 | liable | i believe the last major pinball manufacturers closed their doors last year :( |
| 13:51.43 | xingu | why in gods name is racoon swapping my address idtypes to subnet ones is what I want to know |
| 13:54.32 | L0cKn | chi segue Prison Break? |
| 13:54.42 | L0cKn | ops sorry |
| 13:54.42 | L0cKn | (amsg) |
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| 13:56.40 | liable | wow, pinball machines are expensive |
| 13:57.03 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 13:57.09 | Kobaz | liable: see i've tried that stuff, changing maxtaptime didnt do anythingdf |
| 13:57.28 | liable | Kobaz: and you restarted x ? |
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| 13:57.46 | Kobaz | dfsdfsdffg |
| 13:57.55 | Mazingaro | please I'm using kdebluetooth to transfer data to/from my mobile... I've to put pin code on the mobile, but it told me Invalid pin... please help |
| 13:58.06 | Kobaz | liable: yeah |
| 13:58.08 | roym | folks - how do I set the domainname on my deb etch machine? I don't want to use nis; just static configuration. |
| 13:58.12 | Kobaz | liable: i think i found the problem, heh |
| 13:58.22 | wols_ | a!hostname |
| 13:58.25 | wols_ | !hostname |
| 13:58.26 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 13:58.32 | liable | Kobaz: i dont take anything for granted when poeple ask things here :P |
| 13:58.37 | Kobaz | (EE) Mouse0 no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device |
| 13:58.46 | Kobaz | i never noticed that in the log before |
| 13:59.07 | roym | wols_: can you show me an example line that sets the FQDN for /etc/hosts |
| 13:59.58 | roym | wols_: ie: I want "hostname --fqdn" to work. |
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| 14:01.58 | thedonvaughn | roym, uhrm, that should be pretty straight forward. open up /etc/hosts for an example |
| 14:02.09 | DustyBin | im getting really slow download speeds from security.debian.org |
| 14:02.14 | Shifty | hi all |
| 14:02.21 | DustyBin | are there any security mirrors? |
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| 14:03.15 | liable | DustyBin: its always pretty slow |
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| 14:03.30 | liable | and no, theres no mirrors |
| 14:03.42 | liable | which is curious |
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| 14:04.39 | DustyBin | well its security so maybe theres a reason |
| 14:04.54 | liable | well, not really |
| 14:05.12 | roym | thedonvaughn: got it - the entry in /etc/hostname needs to be present in /etc/hosts as well - duh! |
| 14:05.15 | liable | theres no difference between a security mirror and an ordinary one |
| 14:05.38 | DustyBin | maybe the guys at debian are skint and cannot afford another mirror server |
| 14:05.39 | liable | i think i may have to buy a pinball |
| 14:05.41 | JosefAssad | if I want to dist-upgrade to lenny from etch, is it a problem that I have backports in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 14:06.26 | Shifty | how can i test if my 3D support works? |
| 14:06.45 | JosefAssad | Shifty: glxinfo | grep -i direct |
| 14:07.12 | Shifty | glxinfo | grep -i direct <-- thats ok right? |
| 14:07.20 | cast | Shifty: if you don't know how to test if 3D support works then you don't need it :D |
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| 14:07.50 | Shifty | i want to install compiz ... so i need it ... |
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| 14:09.31 | L0cKn | dpkg: nickometer iNaAa |
| 14:09.32 | dpkg | 'iNaAa' is 14.000% lame, l0ckn |
| 14:09.33 | L0cKn | °° |
| 14:09.40 | L0cKn | dpkg: nickometer L0cKn |
| 14:09.41 | dpkg | 'L0cKn' is 22.000% lame, l0ckn |
| 14:09.43 | L0cKn | ahhaha :E |
| 14:10.47 | abrotman | L0cKn: please msg the bot if you want to play with it |
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| 14:12.24 | L0cKn | o.O |
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| 14:13.09 | abrotman | don't act surprised |
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| 14:19.21 | DustyBin | when updating from security i keep on getting |
| 14:19.23 | DustyBin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.39 | DustyBin | Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main ksvg 4:3.5.5-3etch1 |
| 14:19.53 | DustyBin | maybe ill try later |
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| 14:26.29 | Kobaz | hmm |
| 14:27.00 | Kobaz | anyone know how to enable/disable having the microphone input going directly to the speaker output |
| 14:27.02 | Thurin1 | What would I type if I want to find out how much MB's of swap space I have? |
| 14:27.07 | Kobaz | Thurin1: free |
| 14:27.44 | Thurin1 | Thanks |
| 14:28.05 | Thurin1 | 300, and I have 256mb's of ram.. hrmm maybe next time I should make it 512mb's of swap instead of 300. |
| 14:28.21 | Thurin1 | Kobaz, You need to disable the wav output on the master |
| 14:28.21 | Kobaz | you can add more swap if you want using a file |
| 14:28.27 | Kobaz | Thurin1: k |
| 14:28.44 | cast | Thurin1: so how much swap are you using out of the 300? |
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| 14:29.37 | Kobaz | hmm |
| 14:29.39 | Thurin1 | Kobaz, - Get alsamixer GUI - you will see two little speakers above the volume controls - turn them off, it will still record/catch audio - but it will not play the audio real time |
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| 14:29.52 | Kobaz | i've been using aumix, heh |
| 14:30.01 | Kobaz | i have like 10 different mixters |
| 14:30.01 | Thurin1 | 98MB's |
| 14:30.07 | Kobaz | i'm not sure which one i like the best yet |
| 14:30.07 | Thurin1 | Kobaz, heh |
| 14:30.31 | Thurin1 | Alsa for me works best.. and turning off the speakers above the volume controls of MIC seem to do the trick. |
| 14:30.51 | gryfie__ | I guess, I tried to installed the hl1430lpr-package in the wrong order (guess cupswrapper whould be installed first) |
| 14:30.52 | Thurin1 | Alsamixer even, GUI.. |
| 14:30.59 | Kobaz | Thurin1: does that just mute master? |
| 14:31.07 | Kobaz | Thurin1: or does it do something special |
| 14:31.08 | Thurin1 | No |
| 14:31.16 | Thurin1 | It will turn off the mic from being played in your speaks |
| 14:31.24 | gryfie__ | Now I can't use dpgk anymore, it brings an error and the -force-remove-reinstreq doesnt work.... |
| 14:31.39 | Kobaz | k |
| 14:31.45 | Thurin1 | It will still record sound and all that - except you wont have to hear it being re-played to you at the same time. |
| 14:31.46 | gryfie__ | don't know what I'm dooing wrong |
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| 14:32.17 | Kobaz | Thurin1: it does mute |
| 14:32.26 | Kobaz | Thurin1: i have kmix going and alsamixer-gui going |
| 14:32.37 | Thurin1 | :( |
| 14:32.39 | Thurin1 | Works for me |
| 14:32.44 | Kobaz | Thurin1: when i hit the speakers, it enables mute on kmix |
| 14:32.46 | Kobaz | i'm sure it works fine |
| 14:32.54 | Kobaz | i'm just noticing what it does behind the scenes |
| 14:33.00 | Thurin1 | hehe |
| 14:33.10 | Thurin1 | Linux needs to really work in the audio area... |
| 14:33.12 | Kobaz | hehe |
| 14:33.29 | Kobaz | especially channel mixing on cards that dont support it on the hardware |
| 14:33.35 | Thurin1 | anyways bedtime |
| 14:33.41 | Thurin1 | thanks Kobaz for the 'free' :) |
| 14:33.41 | Kobaz | but it's 10:30am :( |
| 14:33.44 | Kobaz | np |
| 14:33.49 | Thurin1 | I know.. I haven't slept yet :/ |
| 14:33.51 | Kobaz | hehe |
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| 14:39.39 | mbroeker | can someone tell me how to purge old locales? i cannot find them right now in the file-system |
| 14:39.54 | mbroeker | but locale -a show them up |
| 14:42.04 | docsnuggles | maybe it is usefull to rebuild the locales and only choose the once you really need |
| 14:42.09 | wols_ | !tell mbroeker about locales |
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| 14:45.19 | mbroeker | wols_, thanks, but this frontend calls locale-gen and wont delete the old files. |
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| 14:46.25 | DustyBin | how do you restart the network? |
| 14:46.55 | yang | DustyBin: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 14:47.16 | Shifty | is there any channel where i get support 4 Teamspaek 2 RC2? |
| 14:47.21 | jamei | hi, does anyone know if it possible/wise to keep your entire home directory in git? i couldn't find anything on google. |
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| 14:48.59 | DustyBin | thanks yang |
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| 14:49.37 | cahoot | Shifty, might start look here: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Sound |
| 14:49.56 | Shifty | ty |
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| 14:51.22 | liable | jamei: why would you? |
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| 14:51.56 | Narada | hi; i'm trying to enable webdav+apache2 on /var/www/testdav but not working; i've tested with cadaver but i get: 405 Method Not Allowed Could not access /testdav/ (not WebDAV-enabled?): my conf is at http://rafb.net/p/y3hcVQ47.html; what am i doing wrong |
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| 14:53.58 | infester | Hi! I've been trying to install php5 with gd-support, but php-info does not say it does support gd after doing apt-get install php5-gd, does anybody know how to do this correctly? |
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| 14:56.13 | Narada | no idea about webdav? |
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| 14:57.26 | asg | infester: did you restart apache after installing the package? |
| 14:58.26 | mbroeker | Narada, have you enabled the webdav stuff with a2enmod? |
| 14:58.54 | dutchfish | i am trying to compile lustre into debian etch (sources from unstable), is there any docs out there how to do this and set it up on a cluster with xen? |
| 14:59.01 | Narada | mbroeker: yeah |
| 14:59.09 | Narada | mbroeker: dav + dav_fs |
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| 15:00.03 | infester | asg: yes |
| 15:00.18 | abrotman | more than one -gd package |
| 15:00.33 | infester | i cant find anything on any guide on the net about that i need to do anything after just apt-getting it |
| 15:00.44 | infester | abrotman: huh? |
| 15:01.06 | abrotman | also make sure it's uncommented in the php.ini file |
| 15:02.23 | infester | oh |
| 15:02.25 | infester | thats it |
| 15:02.27 | infester | thanks alot! |
| 15:02.35 | jamei | liable: i've since directed my question somewhere more appropriate (#git), but basically so that i could keep my files in sync across 3+ computers |
| 15:03.27 | asg | abrotman: it's always one or the other :) |
| 15:03.37 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 15:04.12 | liable | jamei: ok, i dunno if gits your best choice for that. but its an interesting use of it |
| 15:04.16 | lapinferoce | hello |
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| 15:05.48 | dutchfish | or, are there any docs on lustre using it with debian out there? |
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| 15:07.03 | Nyle | man |
| 15:07.11 | Nyle | windows cmd doesn't even understand unicode |
| 15:07.12 | Nyle | wtf |
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| 15:09.03 | dutchfish | Nyle, offtopic, but if if you config window right, it does |
| 15:09.41 | dutchfish | Nyle, that on NT5 kernels |
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| 15:11.04 | foug | are there any unix based IM clients? ones that let me connect to AIM servers? i have no gui |
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| 15:11.26 | liable | foug: we told you to use bittlebee |
| 15:12.13 | foug | liable: o yea, can it can use aim? |
| 15:12.27 | liable | foug: yes. google it |
| 15:12.43 | sn0 | foug pidgin has 'finch' cli client, which supports the usuals |
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| 15:16.20 | wols_ | roym: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain it's ere |
| 15:16.23 | foug | finch eh? not too experienced with using no gui so i suppose i'll try both out thanks guys |
| 15:16.38 | Snapser | how do I calculate the crc32 checksum for a file? |
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| 15:17.02 | cast | does cksum do that? |
| 15:17.03 | roym | wols_: thanks - I realized that my /etc/hostname entry was not the name I was using in /etc/hosts.. got it working now. |
| 15:17.04 | gener1c | how do i get my keyboard shortcut to work in bouth lang leyouts? |
| 15:17.09 | wols_ | Snapser: does it have to be crc32? |
| 15:17.15 | abrotman | Snapser: md5sum you mena ? |
| 15:17.17 | Snapser | wols_, yes~ |
| 15:17.21 | gener1c | in gnome |
| 15:17.22 | Snapser | crc32 |
| 15:17.28 | abrotman | Snapser: md5sum you mena ? |
| 15:17.36 | gener1c | it works but its not global |
| 15:17.43 | Snapser | can that calculate crc32? |
| 15:17.45 | gener1c | in firefox i cant use ctrl+t |
| 15:17.47 | abrotman | !crc |
| 15:17.48 | dpkg | hmm... crc is (Cyclic Redundancy Check) A mathematical calculation that produces a number that can be used to check the integrity of a file by regenerating the number and comparing the results. |
| 15:17.51 | Shifty | hey where can i set the default audio device? |
| 15:17.55 | infinity0 | is it possible to output a list of installed packages and the time they were installed? |
| 15:18.15 | Shifty | i can speak with other peoples over teamspeak 2 but cant listen to music in firefox or other apps |
| 15:18.26 | cahoot | Shifty, that's described in alsa-base docs |
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| 15:18.36 | wols_ | !tell Shifty about dmix |
| 15:18.50 | Shifty | ok thx |
| 15:19.04 | wols_ | infinity0: /var/log/dpkg.log* |
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| 15:19.59 | Snapser | cksum calculates CRC, not CRC32 |
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| 15:21.04 | cast | what does cksum do/ |
| 15:21.23 | Snapser | calculate the CRC sum of a file |
| 15:21.56 | cast | CRC32 is a subset of CRC surely |
| 15:22.20 | Snapser | cksum doesn't seem to calculate CRC32, only CRC |
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| 15:24.27 | cast | doesn't it calculate a 32bit checksum |
| 15:25.06 | cast | seems to be at least 4 different variations of CRC32 though |
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| 15:25.57 | Snapser | CRC32 Hash |
| 15:26.04 | Snapser | I need that one~ |
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| 15:27.47 | nucc1 | hi, is fglrx working on debian lenny? I have an ati x1600 :( |
| 15:28.00 | flami | Snapser, maybe look at this http://calcchecksum.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:28.39 | flami | or this : http://www.happyassassin.net/2007/06/30/anime-checksums-on-linux/ ( google is your friend ^^ ) |
| 15:29.37 | Shifty | how can i reload the sound drivers? |
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| 15:32.10 | cahoot | invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload |
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| 15:33.14 | Thomsen | Can anyone help me creating a NFS/autofs direct map? Simply can't get it to work :-( |
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| 15:33.34 | en1gma | sup all |
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| 15:33.58 | MaximusBrood | Hello |
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| 15:34.30 | en1gma | howdy |
| 15:35.06 | Snapser | thanks flam~ installing calcchecksum now~~~ |
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| 15:35.50 | nucc1 | en1gma: I guess you just need to speak out if you've got something to say... |
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| 15:37.46 | liable | dont encorage him |
| 15:38.36 | MaximusBrood | According to free, I have 2014 MiB memory. 1963 MiB is used, but of course this is because of buffers/cache. 237 MiB is used for buffers and 762 MiB is used to maintain the cache. Now, when my application memory usage exeeds ~1GB, my system just blocks all commands with the error message: "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-minimal.c: 84: __lib c_memalign: Assertion `page != ( (void *) -1)' failed!". |
| 15:39.00 | MaximusBrood | My question is, why doesn't the kernel just decide to throw away some old cache data, or swap for a bit? |
| 15:40.14 | MaximusBrood | I'm logging in remotely, and all user sessions break except root. When I kill a memory-hungry process, the error clears and I'm able to use all commands again. |
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| 15:43.53 | nucc1 | maximusbrood: if you have swap enabled, and you feel this is worth filing as a bug, I suppose you should? |
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| 15:45.14 | abrotman | MaximusBrood: it gets rid of it when it can .. or should |
| 15:45.30 | MaximusBrood | I was checking if the problem is known. Because I rent a virtual server, and it seems that more users have the same problem. |
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| 15:46.04 | kspath | can anyone recommend a good text based jabber client that also supports talk.google.com ? |
| 15:46.23 | zamuro | !gaim |
| 15:46.23 | dpkg | from memory, gaim is an AIM clone for UN*X (http://gaim.sf.net/). It's graphical (it uses Gtk+), and uses the TIK/TOC protocol as well as Oscar. If gaim can't sign on, try the cvs version - http://gaim.sf.net/cvs.shtml, or really meant for AIM, but now with plugins supports ICQ, MSN and Yahoo!, or to get the cvs version, add "deb http://people.debian.org/~robot101/gaim unstable cvs" to your sources.list. a shit irc client Gaim an I.M. see <pidgin> |
| 15:46.34 | kspath | I checked via apt-cache search jabber and google.com and yahoo.com and various other methods |
| 15:46.35 | MaximusBrood | abrotman: Is there a way I can tell the system to allocate a maximum of 500MiB cache? |
| 15:46.43 | abrotman | why? |
| 15:46.47 | abrotman | it will use it when it needs to |
| 15:46.58 | abrotman | kspath: centericq |
| 15:47.03 | abrotman | zamuro: text based ? |
| 15:47.10 | kspath | zamuro: I am looking for text-based thanks |
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| 15:47.18 | nepbabu | !finch |
| 15:47.18 | dpkg | methinks finch is a really weird guy, or a girl |
| 15:47.20 | MaximusBrood | abrotman: Yeah, but it doesn't use it when it needs to. |
| 15:47.28 | kspath | abrotman: yah, thank you bitlbee and centericq are on my list |
| 15:47.28 | MaximusBrood | abrotman: So I want to rule that out. |
| 15:47.33 | abrotman | MaximusBrood: go ask ##kernel |
| 15:47.42 | holitas | hi, does anyone know if I can see images through ssh ? |
| 15:47.43 | zamuro | Didn't remember how the text-based aim client is called now. |
| 15:47.43 | MaximusBrood | abrotman: Alright, thanks. |
| 15:47.48 | kspath | nepbabu: finch was not in repo ? |
| 15:48.02 | nepbabu | kspath, get the source then |
| 15:48.31 | kspath | nepbabu: good idea but when I went to download it trys to feed me pidgin |
| 15:48.45 | holitas | is there any way to see images through a ssh connection? |
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| 15:48.54 | kspath | nepbabu: I will stick with centericq and bitlbee for now thank you |
| 15:49.01 | nepbabu | ok |
| 15:49.03 | cahoot | ssh -X holitas |
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| 15:49.44 | holitas | cahoot and using windows + putty or so? |
| 15:49.49 | abrotman | nepbabu: the finch on freshmeat doesn't seem related |
| 15:50.37 | cahoot | vnc via ssh tunnel? |
| 15:50.50 | nepbabu | abrotman,developer.pidgin.im |
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| 15:51.10 | abrotman | oh |
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| 15:51.36 | nepbabu | ;) |
| 15:51.52 | hark | !info finch |
| 15:51.56 | quhan | hi, i buy a new notebook but i cant install debian |
| 15:51.56 | dpkg | finch: (text-based multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-4 (sid), Packaged size: 277 kB, Installed size: 556 kB |
| 15:52.11 | quhan | is there someone help me?? |
| 15:52.25 | Ronin | quhan: not until you explain the problem |
| 15:52.27 | abrotman | kspath: that's only pidgin-data |
| 15:52.32 | hark | would be gaim-text in etch, iirc |
| 15:52.42 | quhan | the problem is cdrom cant "detect and mount " |
| 15:52.46 | quhan | thanx |
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| 15:53.48 | quhan | ?? |
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| 15:54.04 | quhan | my harddisk is sata |
| 15:54.15 | quhan | i think it's the problem |
| 15:54.20 | jair | supaman: hello? |
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| 15:55.08 | jair | supaman: I am trying to do what the ubuntu page say but so far I could not find the Xsetup file so i created and put the information that is instructed and not success yet :( |
| 15:55.10 | quhan | the debian list tell me disable the ata_piix with the expert mode, but i cant find the ata_piix |
| 15:56.07 | john666 | you have to get the latest kernel |
| 15:56.23 | john666 | i have the same problem |
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| 15:56.36 | john666 | but then, the new kernel doesnt work too well |
| 15:56.51 | quhan | but now, i cant install debian |
| 15:57.20 | quhan | and my install cdrom is debian etch netins |
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| 15:57.47 | quhan | john666, which iso can i use? |
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| 15:59.22 | quhan | and is there someone tell which release is suit for core2 duo cpu |
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| 15:59.42 | abrotman | i386 or amd64 |
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| 16:00.15 | quhan | it intel not amd... |
| 16:00.20 | liable | 386 unless you have a good reason |
| 16:00.23 | abrotman | i386 or amd64 |
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| 16:00.36 | abrotman | you asked .. i gave the answer |
| 16:00.44 | quhan | thanx |
| 16:00.54 | infinity0 | i read on the debian install manual that tmp needs to be quite big for CD/DVD-writing programs, so would 9.7GB be OK (for dual-layer DVDs) or does it not need to be that big? |
| 16:01.04 | Seb | ping |
| 16:01.22 | TwinX | Changed repo's to lenny, upgraded kernel, Netorking stopped working. How to solve this? |
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| 16:02.00 | liable | TwinX: looking at your logs is a good start |
| 16:02.03 | infinity0 | quhan: if it's 64-bit use amd64, that's includes intel em64t processors |
| 16:02.06 | wols_ | TwinX: find out which part borked |
| 16:02.07 | predder | infinity0, I think the issue is only if you're ripping a DVD, then re-burning it. Presumably you could specify with a decent program where to save it in between |
| 16:02.10 | Seb | pong |
| 16:02.16 | TwinX | k predder thnx |
| 16:02.19 | liable | ding dong! |
| 16:02.37 | predder | my /tmp is 5gb and I've burnt numerous DVD's. I say add the additional space to your /home, make /tmp a few gig at most |
| 16:02.39 | quhan | and how to install debian by cdrom? i cant detect and mount cdrom |
| 16:02.46 | Seb | heh |
| 16:02.46 | abrotman | !d-i quhan |
| 16:02.46 | dpkg | quhan, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the 4.0r0 installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 16:02.57 | TwinX | i mean liable, tnx lol |
| 16:03.04 | infinity0 | predder: right ok... does that include dual-layer DVDs? |
| 16:03.08 | TwinX | tnx wols_ |
| 16:03.24 | wols_ | TwinX: check your kernel logs for any eth |
| 16:03.51 | TwinX | ok thanks i will right now wols_ |
| 16:03.53 | predder | infinity0, no. However, as I said any half decent program will let you specify where you're saving stuff and not force you into using /tmp |
| 16:04.09 | infinity0 | predder: right, ok, thanks :) |
| 16:04.14 | quhan | i found the solution: http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2005/11/msg00245.html |
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| 16:04.36 | quhan | but i cant find the ata_piix module |
| 16:05.09 | quhan | i find piix module only |
| 16:05.16 | jair | has anyone here configure x11vnc to run before anyone logs in on the debian system? I am trying to configure it on debian so it can start automatically after reboot the machine, I am using gdm on this debian etch. |
| 16:05.27 | Seb | quhan: did you compile this kernel yourself ? |
| 16:05.36 | quhan | no |
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| 16:05.50 | quhan | the kernel is in cdrom |
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| 16:05.55 | abrotman | quhan: did you try the installer yet ? |
| 16:06.07 | quhan | yes |
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| 16:06.35 | quhan | i am installing the debian by cdrom, but it stop when "detect and mount cdrom" |
| 16:06.48 | hark | that's from 2005! |
| 16:06.53 | wols_ | quhan: have you tried disabling the piix module? |
| 16:07.02 | liable | or acpi |
| 16:07.03 | quhan | i try it. |
| 16:07.12 | quhan | acpi?? |
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| 16:07.20 | quhan | what do you mean?? |
| 16:07.38 | quhan | i try to disable the piix, but same as not |
| 16:07.45 | liable | apci.. |
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| 16:08.19 | wols_ | liable: it IS contagious. ACPI :P |
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| 16:08.36 | liable | i just had a major brainfart |
| 16:09.42 | wols_ | weclome to my world ;) |
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| 16:10.04 | quhan | could you help me?? |
| 16:10.33 | tdn | I have a system with two disks: one with an installed Debian system; and one with some data, but with 20GB free space. I have no screen nor a keyboard to the system. I only have SSH access. The harddisk with the system on is broken, but the system does boot. Now I would like to install Debian on the data disk. I think I can do this using chroot and debootstrap, but I am not sure how. I hope you can give me a helping hand. |
| 16:10.50 | jair | wols_: I has been trying since last night to configure the Xsession file on debian, but 1) I do not have an Xsetup in the path they indicate on the how to document => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/x11vnc 2) I have two "Xsesion" files one on "/etc/gdm/" and another one on "/etc/X11/" :( |
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| 16:11.14 | jair | so i do not know which one to configure or if I have to write the information to both files..? |
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| 16:12.52 | john666 | where can i find newest kernel in .deb format? |
| 16:12.56 | wols_ | I'd use the one in /etc/gdm for the gdm X11vnc |
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| 16:13.13 | jair | wols_: can you paste your configuration for me to guide? |
| 16:13.22 | wols_ | jair: in your repository as referenced in your sources.list |
| 16:13.30 | wols_ | jair: I don#t have gdm, so what config? |
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| 16:13.49 | jair | wols_: you said you had use it, where? |
| 16:14.19 | jair | wols_: what do you mean with this? =>in your repository as referenced in your sources.list |
| 16:14.22 | digijohn | Ok, this is really strange. When I took my computer out of summer storage, I found that a normal user (john) could no longer read into the directories in my ~/music directory, but root could |
| 16:14.35 | quhan | :~( |
| 16:14.44 | jair | is there a channel where people is talking about "x11vnc"? |
| 16:14.57 | digijohn | I just got a new hard disk, so I'm trying to copy the music over, but after copying the problem remains. |
| 16:15.03 | digijohn | ls -l shows: |
| 16:15.08 | GuHhH | apt-get install -d linux-image .... |
| 16:15.19 | wols_ | I use it, but not the way you do |
| 16:15.20 | GuHhH | then dpkg -i ... .deb |
| 16:15.21 | digijohn | ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? Styx/Styx - Boat On The River.mp3 |
| 16:15.24 | digijohn | for instance |
| 16:15.34 | wols_ | I'm content to run startx from ssh and x11vnc likewise |
| 16:15.41 | wols_ | I only rarely need x11vnc |
| 16:15.42 | Dewi | digijohn: all question marks? |
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| 16:15.54 | digijohn | Dewi: yeah |
| 16:16.05 | digijohn | I can see the file name, but not any info on it |
| 16:16.11 | Dewi | digijohn: what happened to your filesystem metadata? |
| 16:16.19 | Dewi | digijohn: is it an ext3 filesystem? |
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| 16:16.25 | digijohn | yes |
| 16:16.31 | Dewi | digijohn: is it damaged? |
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| 16:16.36 | digijohn | I don't know |
| 16:16.36 | GuHhH | john666: apt-get install -d linux-image ... |
| 16:16.40 | Dewi | digijohn: wait, are you listing that as root? |
| 16:16.42 | digijohn | root can still read the files fine |
| 16:16.48 | john666 | buhh |
| 16:16.50 | john666 | guhhh |
| 16:16.54 | digijohn | Dewi: No, as a normal user |
| 16:16.59 | john666 | most of the things dont work |
| 16:17.01 | digijohn | Root gets a sane listing |
| 16:17.02 | Jemt | Greetz. Is it illegal to install the W32codecs from Debian-Multimedia? Somehow it must be based on components made by M$ - so it requires a Windows License to be legal, right ? |
| 16:17.06 | Virtus | I need some help with a command line for rar in Debian CLI.. I need to rar a folder in files of 650mb.. I searched google, but keep finding bogus help.. anyone pleasE? |
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| 16:17.08 | john666 | i need to download it from this computer |
| 16:17.08 | GuHhH | john666: yes? |
| 16:17.18 | john666 | and then transfer it via usb |
| 16:17.22 | john666 | and install |
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| 16:17.29 | john666 | to get ethernet and cdrom support |
| 16:17.30 | jair | wols_: alright so how can you start the x11vnc using ssh if nobody have log in in the machine ? |
| 16:17.46 | Dewi | digijohn: give an example of root's listing of the first thing root can see but normal users can't. Ie, the parent directory |
| 16:17.47 | GuHhH | john666 do what i said. |
| 16:17.54 | jair | wols_: I try that and it does not start unless someone logs into the machine first |
| 16:17.55 | defrysk | Jemt, not in denmark afaIk |
| 16:17.59 | Jemt | !tell john666 about enter |
| 16:18.07 | jair | !x11vnc |
| 16:18.08 | dpkg | x11vnc is, like, a vnc server for displaying the running x session, or http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ |
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| 16:18.15 | GuHhH | john666 do what i said. then copy it to a pendrive... and use dpkg -i ... .deb on the target computer |
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| 16:18.30 | Jemt | defrysk: Hm, okay. Would like to know why though :) |
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| 16:18.37 | john666 | i dont have linux on this computer. |
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| 16:18.56 | GuHhH | john666: oh, i see :) |
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| 16:19.07 | defrysk | its about patents and stuff, it applies mote to the U.S of america if i am correct |
| 16:19.09 | digijohn | Dewi: Okay, normal user can see all the files in ~/music; ls -l in ~/music shows stuff like "drw-r--r-- 2 john john 4096 2007-09-16 12:08 Styx" |
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| 16:19.12 | defrysk | mere* |
| 16:19.16 | defrysk | more* |
| 16:19.18 | defrysk | geez |
| 16:19.33 | Jemt | defrysk: Oh, okay. Thanks :) |
| 16:19.44 | digijohn | Dewi: If I ls -l ~/music/Styx, a normal user sees "?--------- ? ? ? ? ? Styx/renegade.mp3" |
| 16:19.57 | Dewi | digijohn: that didn't look normal; it lacked an X |
| 16:20.00 | Dewi | or rather x |
| 16:20.02 | digijohn | Root will see "-rw-r--r-- 1 john john 4073557 2007-09-16 12:08 renegade.mp3" |
| 16:20.16 | Dewi | digijohn: chmod a+X Styx |
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| 16:20.25 | digijohn | aha! |
| 16:20.34 | digijohn | Excellent work, Watson |
| 16:20.51 | digijohn | Stunning deductions, Holmes |
| 16:20.53 | digijohn | Thank you |
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| 16:20.58 | Dewi | digijohn: did that... help? |
| 16:20.59 | digijohn | I just wonder how that happened |
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| 16:21.02 | digijohn | Yes |
| 16:21.18 | Dewi | digijohn: I'm not sure why you could still see filenames but no metadata |
| 16:21.29 | jelly-home | digijohn: something remove the eXecuable permissions on your directory |
| 16:21.48 | digijohn | jelly: I'm just not sure what would have done that. |
| 16:21.49 | digijohn | huh. |
| 16:21.57 | john666 | !tell jemt about enter |
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| 16:22.11 | jelly-home | digijohn: could have been the user. :-> |
| 16:22.16 | digijohn | heh |
| 16:22.56 | john666 | jelly: where can i get latest kernel version in .deb format? |
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| 16:23.25 | jelly-home | john666: don't ask me, ask the channel. |
| 16:23.46 | john666 | !ask kernel |
| 16:23.53 | john666 | !dsk kernel |
| 16:23.58 | wols_ | apt-cache search linux-image |
| 16:23.59 | wols_ | enjoy |
| 16:24.07 | john666 | without linux |
| 16:24.23 | wols_ | why? you want a HURD kernel? |
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| 16:24.38 | john666 | no, i dont have linux on this machine |
| 16:24.47 | wols_ | !tell john666 about search |
| 16:24.49 | Jemt | john666: You can do ie /msg dpkg enter to "talk" to the bot - this way you dosn't flood the channel ;) |
| 16:24.53 | john666 | and i need it for a linux machine which doesnt have ethernet or cdrom support |
| 16:24.58 | xand | john666: packages.debian.org |
| 16:25.10 | john666 | thanks xand |
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| 16:26.12 | defrysk | and that needs the latest kernel ? |
| 16:27.05 | jelly-home | john666: the 2.6.22 you got the other day was a packages from unstable, btw |
| 16:27.17 | GarryFre | Anyone able to access distrowatch.com? I went to the #distrowatch channel but they say any reply can take as much as six hours. :p |
| 16:27.22 | john666 | jelly: i thoght so by the stability it had |
| 16:27.34 | defrysk | ditrowatch is suffering a ddos attk |
| 16:27.42 | GarryFre | thanks kindly. |
| 16:27.45 | defrysk | go to ditrowatch.cz |
| 16:27.53 | defrysk | distrowatch.cz |
| 16:27.56 | defrysk | sorry |
| 16:27.59 | GarryFre | cheers. |
| 16:28.15 | jelly-home | john666: there's nothing stopping you form building a custom kernel from upstream sources, though |
| 16:28.45 | john666 | jelly: well i did a complete reinstall of the debian |
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| 16:29.15 | john666 | jelly: i coudlnt boot that new kernel anymore |
| 16:29.47 | z3us | hi, can my 2mb ram vga card support 1024x768 resolution? |
| 16:29.48 | jelly-home | john666: I mean, you can grab the source from kernel.org and build your own |
| 16:30.13 | jelly-home | z3us: at 16bpp colors, if you're lucky |
| 16:30.26 | wirefire | anyone recommend a good lightweight image viewer for viewing photos in a directory etc |
| 16:30.37 | cahoot | feh |
| 16:30.37 | defrysk | john666, the easiest way to build it : http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch |
| 16:30.39 | john666 | jelly: i miss most of the packages, including the ones needed to build, make etc. |
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| 16:31.09 | cahoot | feh is one wirefire |
| 16:31.13 | z3us | is a server, the colors are no important! how can i set this resolution? |
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| 16:31.54 | jelly-home | z3us: if it's a server, why do you need X at all? |
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| 16:31.54 | wfq | hi guys |
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| 16:31.55 | defrysk | z3us, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 16:32.09 | wfq | have you ever had problems with your SATA intel AHCI to get debian working_ |
| 16:32.12 | wfq | ? |
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| 16:33.25 | GuHhH | damn. |
| 16:33.28 | jelly-home | john666: if it's a desktop machine, I'd suggest installing testing instead, which already has a more recent kernel |
| 16:33.51 | Alley | hi folks. I followed the instruction herehttp://www.debianhelp.co.uk/realplayer.htm but when I try to install realplayer it says its not known. Has it moved? |
| 16:33.59 | dimir | Moin! |
| 16:34.11 | GuHhH | i tried to install the xserver-xgl from ubuntu repo. but i cant load X anymore |
| 16:34.13 | GuHhH | :( |
| 16:34.16 | GarryFre | Enter: Noun A key a user presses to send data full of errors he can't see til he presses this key. |
| 16:34.25 | Alley | wfq: ich9 chipset? |
| 16:34.32 | xand | !bobbitt |
| 16:34.32 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody (...sarge, etch), you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge, Etch, and any other debian system or "debian based distro". |
| 16:35.03 | GarryFre | :) |
| 16:35.05 | wirefire | cahoot: ty |
| 16:35.33 | wfq | Alley, with lspci I can not find any other further information. I can find ICH 8 for bridge, usb, etc.. |
| 16:35.49 | Thomsen | Can anyone help me creating a NFS/autofs direct map? |
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| 16:36.14 | defrysk | Alley, get it from here http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 16:36.22 | Thomsen | Can anyone help me creating a NFS/autofs direct map? |
| 16:36.29 | Supaplex | !tell Thomsen -about repeat |
| 16:36.42 | Alley | I had same issues. In the end I had to dump the IDE dvd and biy a sata one, and either put bIOS into "compatible mode" or move to the 2.6.22 kernel which was even worse. Ubunt Fesity "just works" though with a SATA installation DVD. |
| 16:36.48 | wfq | Alley, SATA controller, Inter corporation Mobile SATA AHCI controller (rev 03) that is it |
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| 16:37.45 | tdn | I have a system with two disks: one with an installed Debian system; and one with some data, but with 20GB free space. I have no screen nor a keyboard to the system. I only have SSH access. The harddisk with the system on is broken, but the system does boot. Now I would like to install Debian on the data disk. I think I can do this using chroot and debootstrap, but I am not sure how. I hope you can give me a helping hand. |
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| 16:38.11 | Alley | defrysk: I have that in my sources.list. Still no realplayer. |
| 16:38.15 | wfq | I have installed Debian etch fine but I am trying to recompile a kernel that is not able to get booted |
| 16:38.19 | GarryFre | Hmm this site claims sco filed for bankruptcy . .. http://sco.tuxrocks.com/Docs/SCOO-BK/SCOO-BK-1.pdf |
| 16:38.48 | defrysk | Alley, find it here : http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/ |
| 16:38.53 | Alley | wfq: I had to hit enter at "mount" stage. |
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| 16:39.15 | Alley | defrysk: what is your sources.list line for that? |
| 16:39.28 | wols_ | defrysk: they did. yesterday. but only the merkin version of it, chapter 11 |
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| 16:39.36 | gustavo | hello |
| 16:39.36 | jelly-home | GarryFre: and their chapter 11 filing caused a problem on your debian machine? |
| 16:39.43 | defrysk | Alley, deb http://ftp.uni-kl.de/debian-multimedia/ testing main |
| 16:40.01 | xand | what's the best filesystem for using on a DVD to backup files... is there one that'll maintain permissions/ownership? |
| 16:40.04 | Alley | but I dont want testing. |
| 16:40.14 | Alley | and real player isnt in stable. |
| 16:40.17 | gustavo | please... i used ubuntu repositories to install XGL, and needed to upgrade libc6, libc6-dev, and etc... how can i downgrade it all? apt pin priority or something? |
| 16:40.36 | xand | gustavo: you can't downgrade... |
| 16:40.36 | defrysk | Alley, just download it manually then and let gdebi install it |
| 16:40.37 | jelly-home | xand: iso with rockridge extensions? |
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| 16:40.55 | gustavo | xand: why not? |
| 16:40.57 | xand | gustavo: using ubuntu reps in debian is a big NO NO |
| 16:41.00 | xand | !downgrade |
| 16:41.00 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. |
| 16:41.01 | GarryFre | jelly-home I've noticed folks here going off topic for far longer than I ever would and nobody mentioned a thing. |
| 16:41.25 | Alley | it isnt there from what I can see. amd64. |
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| 16:41.39 | jelly-home | GarryFre: it depends on whether the actually are user questions around |
| 16:41.40 | gustavo | xand: apt priority wont work? |
| 16:41.40 | defrysk | wols_, pardon ? |
| 16:42.02 | xand | gustavo: restore from a backup is the best idea |
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| 16:42.09 | GarryFre | jelly-home Ok, that makes sense. :) |
| 16:42.12 | cahoot | GarryFre, some are more equal than others |
| 16:42.23 | jelly-home | that too |
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| 16:42.33 | gustavo | xand: well, whatever... at least its working... lol! maybe i shouldnt bother about it?! |
| 16:42.50 | xand | gustavo: maybe |
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| 16:45.29 | dashs | Best way to list all the files associated with a package (b4 and after install)? |
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| 16:46.21 | ozolexil | which packages do i need to be able to make kernel from sources |
| 16:46.45 | wols_ | !tell ozolexil about b-e |
| 16:46.56 | wols_ | also kernel-package and libncurses5-dev |
| 16:46.58 | defrysk | ozolexil, kernel-package libncurses5-dev fakeroot wget bzip2 build-essential |
| 16:47.04 | ozolexil | wols_: thanks |
| 16:47.16 | ozolexil | defrysk: thanks too |
| 16:47.34 | defrysk | ozolexil, check http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch |
| 16:47.47 | ozolexil | aww |
| 16:47.55 | defrysk | it tels you how to make kernel.debs |
| 16:48.08 | defrysk | works flawlessly |
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| 16:48.51 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 16:49.10 | ozolexil | looks like im set to go |
| 16:49.20 | Fox_1_ | people does anyone know how to "left chat" in skype? |
| 16:49.49 | defrysk | ozolexil, some .config templates to start with : http://merkel.debian.org/~jurij |
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| 16:50.22 | john007 | mIRC doesnt work too well... It doesnt keep my nick |
| 16:50.41 | wols_ | john007: coming to #debian with mirc is blasphemy |
| 16:50.47 | wols_ | use irssi, or at least x-chat |
| 16:50.47 | defrysk | john007, try xchat |
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| 16:51.03 | roler | does Debian restart apache2 in the nightly scripts? |
| 16:51.07 | defrysk | its available for %^$windows&^*# |
| 16:51.08 | john007 | dude, for the 100th time i dont have linux |
| 16:51.10 | wols_ | roler: no |
| 16:51.24 | defrysk | hehe |
| 16:51.37 | roler | wols_: nor reload right? |
| 16:51.43 | blinx | what causes the missing sound in my iceweasel in the youtube videos with the 32bit plugin (adobe) running through nspluginwrapper in my 64bit debian sid installation? alsa is configured as well and alsa-oss is installed. |
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| 16:52.05 | wols_ | roler: If logrotate takes too long or somesuch, it sometimes restarts apache for some reason IIRC |
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| 16:52.14 | wols_ | usually happens on sunday morning or so (once a week) |
| 16:52.20 | wols_ | otherwise, no apache restarts |
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| 16:52.35 | roler | wols_: ; and today is sunday morning, and this is when my issue happened |
| 16:52.46 | fmz | hey, to start gnome from command line i put startx? |
| 16:52.52 | roler | wols_: ; do you have any documentation on this? is it in the cron.weekly file/dirs? |
| 16:52.53 | blinx | no |
| 16:53.01 | blinx | fmz: /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 16:53.08 | GuHhH | wols_: renice -5 pid |
| 16:53.11 | blinx | first check if gdm is running and kill it |
| 16:53.16 | wols_ | roler: it's the logrotate doing it afaik. only remember it cause it came up here once |
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| 16:54.06 | GuHhH | wols_: try something like this, so u lower the priority of logrotate process, i guess its the reason why u are having this problem... maybe ur system is requiring a lot of resources... just a guess |
| 16:54.14 | roler | wols_: ;thank you so incredibly much. I thought a hacker got in the system and shut down apache, because it didn't come back up. My work is at a trade show at a newly launched website and I am so happy to have an answer because otherwise my a$$ would be gra$$. |
| 16:54.54 | roler | wols_: ; but looking back at /var/log/apache2/error.log, I see that other sundays it received the SIGWINCH as well at 6:25am... |
| 16:54.58 | wols_ | GuHhH: I don't have such a rpiblem. roler does |
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| 16:59.35 | roler | wols_: ; oh boy you know what it is? I think it's because apache2 requires a password on startup due to ssl, and thus could not restart without me typing it in |
| 16:59.41 | roler | wols_: i think that may be it |
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| 17:02.01 | Fox_1_ | people I have question about ssh keys: I have ran `ssh-keygen -t rsa` on my server, it was create two files id_rsa and id_rsa.pub in ~/.ssh/ folder. Then I have gotten id_rsa.pub and store it in my workstation in ~/.ssh/ folder. Then ran `chmod 000 id_rsa.pub`. Now when I want to ssh to my server it's again asking password. Server run debian and my workstation, too. Whats the problem? |
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| 17:03.06 | cahoot | why the chmod step? |
| 17:03.52 | Fox_1_ | cahoot, I don't know. I have read it somewhere. |
| 17:04.52 | Fox_1_ | Also I have tried to create authorized_keys file and append the id_rsa.pub line, but it doesn't help. |
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| 17:05.09 | Aleksej | hi |
| 17:05.22 | Aleksej | Any idea on what to write text metadata into PNG with? |
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| 17:15.29 | kspath | I missed abrotman |
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| 17:19.29 | czeroX | hi all |
| 17:21.10 | GNUtoo | Aleksej, http://directory.fsf.org/exiftagger.html |
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| 17:25.02 | pablo__ | hi, i am a user of debian lenny, i get crashes on iceweasel/epiphany and i was wondering if this may be caused by problems on my ram |
| 17:25.26 | roxy_ | is it the safest way to install a tomcat server: create a tomcat user/group, chown tomcat.tomcat the tomcat's directories and add to tomcat group all sysad that will touch thoses dirs ? |
| 17:25.52 | john007 | do i have to answer all the questions when making kernel? |
| 17:26.22 | jelly-home | john007: you can use the Debian's config file as a template |
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| 17:27.21 | jelly-home | john007: it's in /boot/config-* |
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| 17:27.48 | john007 | i did cp /boot-config`uname -r` ./.config |
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| 17:29.40 | john007 | how long does it take to compile? |
| 17:29.52 | NooB | it depends of ur ram |
| 17:30.00 | john007 | ive 2 GB |
| 17:30.12 | john007 | 1.8 GHZ proccessor |
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| 17:30.39 | jelly-home | 5-30ish minutes, depending on the options selected, cpu, whether you use -j options to make... |
| 17:30.51 | john007 | splendid |
| 17:31.04 | jelly-home | !make-kpkg |
| 17:31.04 | dpkg | make-kpkg is probably the Debian Way (tm) to deal with kernel compiling - it makes a package for your custom kernel which you can install/remove easily (tm) with the dpkg (pat. pend.) mechanisms. 'apt-get install kernel-package' then 'man make-kpkg' =), or see also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html or ask me about <kp mantra> |
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| 17:40.05 | roxy_ | why is a home directory created for system user ? |
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| 17:41.39 | messiah | Hi all |
| 17:42.10 | messiah | I want to ask how can I delete the *.extension files of a directory and his sub-directories? |
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| 17:43.07 | messiah | I test rm /directory *.txt -R |
| 17:43.15 | messiah | but dosen't work, how can I do that? |
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| 17:44.12 | rata | i am triying yo use compiz-fusion. I have my nvidia 3d drivers and installed compiz and compiz-gnome. I am running fluxbox, i there any way i can use compiz without installin gnome ? |
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| 17:45.02 | rata | messiah, find -name '*.extension' | xargs rm |
| 17:45.24 | xushi_ | hi guys |
| 17:47.18 | czeroX | im trying to add some menu items to my blackbox menu |
| 17:47.43 | cloakable | messiah: find -name *.extenstion -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rm |
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| 17:48.27 | messiah | let me test it |
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| 17:49.24 | messiah | cool works great thanks! |
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| 18:01.02 | infinity0 | bah not again :/ |
| 18:01.06 | Kartoffelsalat | i have a question about gpg: i encrypt information on my server with public key. no one knows the public key, but everyone the private key for encryption. is it possible to get the publick key when they have the private key? (i want only one key for »all friends«) |
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| 18:01.39 | xand | eh, public keys are the public ones, private keys are private |
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| 18:02.13 | xand | Kartoffelsalat: I think you have it the wrong way round? |
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| 18:03.16 | Kartoffelsalat | xand: yes, but i want to build this gpg-security-thing into a script and will release it public. the script downloads a list with information from my server. everybody should decode this list, but nobody should be able to create a list (f.e. for "bad lists") |
| 18:03.31 | Kartoffelsalat | with this key |
| 18:03.52 | \amethyst | That is the whole point of public-key cryptography |
| 18:04.08 | \amethyst | that someone with the public key can't use that to figure out the private key |
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| 18:04.31 | \amethyst | You'd be relying on certain unproven assumptions about the complexity of certain algorithmic problems, though |
| 18:04.41 | \amethyst | as does pretty much all cryptography |
| 18:04.43 | Kartoffelsalat | the private key is normaly for decryption, but this private key does everybody know (do not want that server must create for every user a new list) |
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| 18:05.08 | Kartoffelsalat | hm |
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| 18:05.40 | Kartoffelsalat | how does this security-thing works at debian-packages? link or explaination? |
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| 18:05.50 | \amethyst | Kartoffelsalat: it works both ways... you can encrypt with a public key so that only a person with a private key can decrypt it |
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| 18:06.18 | \amethyst | Kartoffelsalat: or you can encrypt with a private key so that a person with the public key can verify that you (i.e. someone with the private key) did the encryption |
| 18:06.31 | \amethyst | Kartoffelsalat: the former is used for privacy, the latter for verifiability |
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| 18:06.34 | Seb | aka "signature", rather than encryption, in this case |
| 18:06.43 | Kartoffelsalat | i need this signature-thing |
| 18:06.56 | Seb | since technically speaking, you just encrypt a hash of the msg |
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| 18:08.00 | john007 | the system failed to compile the kernel >.< |
| 18:08.30 | Kartoffelsalat | my problem is: i want to release this list as a php script or as plain text. but this list will get interpretated by a php script. and if this list gets modified by someone else (i do not think that this will hapen, but how knows) the users can have aproblem. so i must encrypt the whole file, or not? |
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| 18:09.51 | TrueDD_away | re |
| 18:10.18 | \amethyst | Kartoffelsalat: you want to sign the message (which, as seb says, involves encrypting its hash with a private key), and then have the PHP verify the signature (decrypt it with the public key and verify that the result is really the hash of the message) |
| 18:10.49 | \amethyst | Kartoffelsalat: gpg --sign and gpg --verify |
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| 18:11.52 | Kartoffelsalat | \amethyst: this is clever, great |
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| 18:15.11 | logd | hi my pinnacle usb video card should (eb1a:2881) work with em28xx but i added this module to kernel but a /dev/video is not createwd |
| 18:15.26 | Kartoffelsalat | thanks a lot |
| 18:15.27 | Kartoffelsalat | cya |
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| 18:25.18 | lexoplex | I have a file that looks like this: |
| 18:25.22 | lexoplex | -rw-rw-r-- 1 www-data www-data 128 2007-09-16 19:47 index.html |
| 18:25.39 | lexoplex | I'm in group www-data. Why can't I write it? |
| 18:25.49 | \amethyst | what does the program id say? |
| 18:25.56 | Gathond | lexoplex: have you just added yourself to that group? |
| 18:26.02 | dvs | lexoplex: what are the directory permissions? |
| 18:26.03 | Supaplex | it should be owned by you and readable by www-data (or everyone) |
| 18:26.09 | Gathond | you have to log in again for the groups list to be reread |
| 18:26.19 | Aleksej | lexoplex: is that a file or a directory? |
| 18:26.21 | Supaplex | letting www-data have write access is usually an unwise idea |
| 18:26.29 | Aleksej | oh |
| 18:26.34 | Aleksej | sorry, I'm sleepy |
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| 18:27.18 | lexoplex | Gathond: Yes, I just added myself. Thanks. |
| 18:27.31 | Pawwa | Hi |
| 18:27.36 | dvs | lexoplex: log out and back in again |
| 18:27.41 | lexoplex | dvs: drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 2007-09-16 19:49 private |
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| 18:28.04 | jelly-home | lexoplex: you also need write permissions for the group on the directory |
| 18:28.09 | \amethyst | no you don't |
| 18:28.15 | \amethyst | only if you want to create new files |
| 18:28.19 | \amethyst | or rename them |
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| 18:28.34 | jelly-home | ah |
| 18:28.47 | Gathond | lexoplex: but as Supaplex said it should not generally be required for www-data to have write access to files |
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| 18:29.49 | Supaplex | chown you:you file/dir/etc ; chmod og=r files ; chmod og=rx dirs |
| 18:29.52 | lexoplex | Gathond: So chown user.user on the file should be OK? |
| 18:30.25 | Gathond | lexoplex: depends on what exactly that file is, but in general apache should be fine as long as it can read the files |
| 18:30.39 | Gathond | writing to them is generally more of a security issue |
| 18:30.56 | \amethyst | lexoplex: use a colon not a dot, but yes... as long as www-data can read it, it should be fine |
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| 18:33.03 | GuHhH | does anyone knows a good tutorial for a "perfect setup" on debian? |
| 18:33.21 | Gathond | GuHhH: my take is that this does not exist |
| 18:33.30 | GuHhH | why not? |
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| 18:33.38 | Gathond | at least not in any way which goes beyond one very specifically defined situation |
| 18:33.40 | petemc | perfect for what? |
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| 18:33.49 | GuHhH | i can found it for a several distros but debian :) |
| 18:34.05 | Gathond | of cause perfect for me exists, but your oppinion/need probably differs from mine |
| 18:34.17 | gravity | There's a perfect setup for debian, at least from that "perfect setup" website |
| 18:34.31 | gravity | http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_etch |
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| 18:34.37 | gravity | google is totally amazing like that |
| 18:34.40 | Gathond | gravity: probably but its "perfect" not perfect:) |
| 18:34.42 | GuHhH | gravity thanks... |
| 18:34.57 | GuHhH | gravity lol... i searched but didnt find it :P |
| 18:35.06 | Gathond | unless he just happens to be in total agreement with the guy who wrote it |
| 18:35.15 | kspath | Gathond: hehehe |
| 18:35.47 | kspath | Gathond: I doubt anyone here would like my "perfect" setup |
| 18:35.49 | GuHhH | its just term wich means a server with a lot of services |
| 18:35.56 | Gathond | for one that perfect setup seems to be for a server, not a desktop |
| 18:36.17 | Gathond | which there alone might end up miles off target for some:) |
| 18:36.20 | lexoplex | Supaplex: Great nick, BTW. :-) |
| 18:36.38 | Gathond | kspath: most would probable hate mine (enlightenment and Eterms) |
| 18:36.38 | Supaplex | (: |
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| 18:37.01 | kspath | Gathond: ion3 and mrxvt |
| 18:37.02 | simmerz | how can I see what packages are in the "standard" tasksel? |
| 18:37.13 | pipeline | kspath, Gathond : CDE. |
| 18:37.24 | Gathond | GuHhH: so just adding alot of services is the perfect way to go? |
| 18:37.30 | kspath | pipeline: wow solaris much? |
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| 18:37.41 | pipeline | kspath, Gathond : CDE and NS 3.x will still run if you grab the potato-compatibility stuff from woody :X |
| 18:37.45 | Gathond | GuHhH: personally I think them suggesting mysql over postgresl leaves it far from perfect |
| 18:37.59 | Gathond | pipeline: probably, but I always hated CDE |
| 18:38.13 | pipeline | kspath, Gathond : It is indeed a tremendous pain in the ass to make libc4/libc5 apps work on lenny/sid, but it's doable. |
| 18:38.16 | Gathond | I never found a way to switch virtual desktop without using the mouse |
| 18:38.30 | kspath | pipeline: hehehe |
| 18:38.37 | lexoplex | Ratpoison/rxvt-unicode/screen here. |
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| 18:39.19 | simmerz | so any ideas how to see what is in the tasksel "standard" list? I don't want to install the lot following a debootstrap, but I do want to see if any of it is useful |
| 18:39.41 | pipeline | Gathond: I think it's possible to use tooltalk to do that, but no, nothing by default :P |
| 18:40.11 | roxy_ | there is a group: jboss. I belongs to that group (checked in /etc/group) and a file: -rw-rw-r-- 1 jboss jboss 10792 2007-09-16 20:36 log4j.xml |
| 18:40.27 | Gathond | pipeline: I just used enlightenment 16 on the university SUN servers:) |
| 18:40.34 | Gathond | pipeline: since CDE drove me mad |
| 18:40.42 | roxy_ | vi let me open this file readonly not write , why could that be ? |
| 18:40.56 | \amethyst | roxy_: check with id whether you belong to that group... /etc/group isn't dispositive |
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| 18:42.55 | roxy_ | \amethyst: jboss is: jboss:x:1001:1001:jboss,jboss,jboss,jboss,jboss:/home/jboss:/bin/bash and /etc/group: jboss:x:1001:roxy |
| 18:43.06 | \amethyst | roxy_: run the command id |
| 18:43.22 | \amethyst | roxy_: does it list jboss among the groups? |
| 18:43.41 | simmerz | so I can't get a list of packages from tasksel? |
| 18:44.07 | simmerz | oh, I'll do that myself. lol |
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| 18:44.24 | \amethyst | simmerz: tasksel --task-packages standard |
| 18:44.36 | roxy_ | \amethyst: id doesn't list me as belonging to the jboss group. |
| 18:44.48 | \amethyst | roxy_: have you logged back in since you added yourself to the group? |
| 18:44.57 | simmerz | gives me nothing at all: ~pstandard\n~prequired\n~pimportant |
| 18:45.14 | \amethyst | simmerz: that means all packages with priority 'standard', 'required', or 'important' |
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| 18:45.30 | simmerz | \amethyst: so how do I find out which those packages are? |
| 18:45.44 | \amethyst | simmerz: aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant |
| 18:45.49 | simmerz | oh ok |
| 18:45.50 | simmerz | thanks |
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| 18:46.43 | roxy_ | \amethyst: working, I didn't log in/out. Thanks for your help. |
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| 18:47.52 | EruditeH1rmit | hi, when I upgrade my xserver, I get http://rafb.net/p/h6Tph388.html |
| 18:47.56 | EruditeH1rmit | can anyone help? |
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| 18:48.44 | EruditeH1rmit | also, I get a garbled screen with my laptop display with radeon 6.7.192-4 and xorg server 1.4, but when I connect a LCD display it works fine. |
| 18:48.59 | gravity | ls |
| 18:49.01 | ljlolel | where should I go if I want to find out how to get at the raw data from a webcam? |
| 18:49.02 | gravity | Shit, sorry |
| 18:49.45 | roxy_ | ljlolel: programaticaly ? like using opencv. |
| 18:49.54 | Supaplex | ljlolel: apt-get install source webcam (or go to the drivers) |
| 18:50.05 | ljlolel | yea, so I can process it using custom C/Python, etc |
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| 18:50.43 | Supaplex | ljlolel: have you looked at zoneminder? |
| 18:51.34 | gravity | EruditeH1rmit: Could you submit two bugs then using reportbug? One of them should go to xserver-xorg, and it's about the stuff in the pastebin. The second goes to xserver-xorg-video-ati and is about the garbled screen |
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| 18:52.21 | xingu | does nobody use this with ipv6? |
| 18:52.22 | roxy_ | ljlolel: do you know your driver ? |
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| 18:53.00 | ljlolel | yea, let me doublecheck |
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| 18:53.15 | ljlolel | it's the standard logitech one |
| 18:53.27 | blj | i cannot find apache2-ssl-certifcate script in my debian, any ideas? |
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| 18:54.04 | roxy_ | ljlolel: can you see with your webcam and what do you want to do with the output ? |
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| 18:56.02 | ljlolel | so, when i run webcam, it seems to run, but it shows me no picture |
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| 18:57.19 | phoenixz | I just created another 20GB partition as ext3 and I want to permanently use it as /home/user/music... How can I easily have this drive always automatically mount like that at startup? |
| 18:57.20 | ljlolel | Yea, so I want to grab the output, and then track high-contrast objects that I can identify in real time -- i just need to figure out how to get the stuff in the first place |
| 18:57.38 | infinity0 | phoenixz: edit /etc/fstab |
| 18:58.33 | infinity0 | i'm running firefox on windows and iceweasel on debian. can i just copy and paste my profile from one system into another or do i need to make further changes? |
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| 18:59.16 | roxy_ | ljlolel: then before to try doing stuff with the output you should double check driver(google driver video linux) . Then have a look at opencv and also Ravl. |
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| 19:00.17 | ljlolel | awesome, thanks |
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| 19:00.40 | roxy_ | ljlolel: do you speak french ? |
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| 19:00.59 | lukrecija | hy |
| 19:01.04 | lukrecija | just |
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| 19:01.37 | lukrecija | who want to help me to install rt2500 on debian 4.0 i am new in this OS??? |
| 19:01.42 | ljlolel | je le comprends |
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| 19:02.09 | zamuro | !tell jkl about fr |
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| 19:02.22 | zamuro | lol |
| 19:02.44 | lukrecija | I READ MORE HOWTO BUT source i not understand |
| 19:03.06 | roxy_ | ljlolel: I followed a night course on multimedia, some link could help you: http://russel.fr/rsx206/bi01.html (most of it in english) |
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| 19:04.01 | lukrecija | e:couldnt find package rt2500...just whats mean source i give him source root but want to install? |
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| 19:05.29 | lindenl1 | Hi connecting over a a blackberry with edge what speed should I expect? |
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| 19:05.43 | feydr | so I'm trying to set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward as root and it keeps saying 'cannot overwrite existing file' |
| 19:05.49 | dvs | lindenl1: 160kbps max |
| 19:05.52 | hark | lukrecija: m-a prepare; m-a a-i rt2500 |
| 19:06.03 | ljlolel | roxy_: thank you |
| 19:06.19 | lukrecija | yes i try dont want |
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| 19:06.20 | lindenl1 | ok im seetin like 60kbps |
| 19:06.36 | lindenl1 | dvs: it seems a bit flaky though |
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| 19:06.45 | dvs | lindenl1: yup |
| 19:07.31 | lindenl1 | dvs: I was getting LCP disconnects and then I told it to not echo but I think the conection is going away anyway |
| 19:08.28 | lindenl1 | but it works now |
| 19:08.35 | lindenl1 | mostly |
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| 19:09.02 | lindenl1 | now im hitting 90kbps |
| 19:09.23 | simmerz | how can I stop debian udev from saving network interface details to the persistent rules file? is there a permanent way that will carry over upgrades? |
| 19:09.29 | dvs | lindenl1: you probably have to have all bars to get the maximum. |
| 19:09.38 | \amethyst | simmerz: get rid of the persistent net rules generator |
| 19:09.41 | lindenl1 | dvs: ha nice....ha ha |
| 19:09.52 | simmerz | \amethyst: won't it get installed again on upgrade of udev? |
| 19:10.09 | xingu | feydr: echo 1 > ... |
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| 19:10.47 | \amethyst | simmerz: I would hope not, since it should be a conffile... I haven't tested it, though |
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| 19:11.25 | feydr | xingu: I did a 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' and got that error |
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| 19:11.55 | jelly-home | hi, is there a way to build kernels of i386 on an amd64 installation? |
| 19:12.00 | jelly-home | s/of/for/ |
| 19:12.03 | Arron | how do i get auto volume mounting with xfce |
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| 19:12.52 | \amethyst | simmerz: hm, it's a link not a conffile |
| 19:13.33 | defrysk | jelly-home, get a .config for i386 and compile it ? |
| 19:13.33 | \amethyst | simmerz: but reading the postinst script for udev, it looks like the link will only be re-created if none of the standard links exists in /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 19:14.10 | xingu | hmm, so ipsec-utils is about nine months off the pace, upstream has a new release start of sept beta'd since feb. |
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| 19:14.35 | jelly-home | defrysk: compile it... what with? |
| 19:14.36 | z3us_ | what is the DNS updater that is preistalled in debian? |
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| 19:15.10 | defrysk | ? |
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| 19:15.49 | dvs | defrysk: make image? make-kpkg? |
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| 19:16.11 | defrysk | oh wait i have a link for that |
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| 19:16.49 | jelly-home | defrysk: I already have my /usr/src, but do not know whether gcc is able to create i386 object code |
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| 19:17.15 | defrysk | jelly, not sure about that sorry |
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| 19:19.52 | Dwayne__ | i've build a smoothwall dev on debian, but i don't have a package manager, how can i get it on |
| 19:20.45 | pipeline | Dwayne__: no package manager = not debian |
| 19:21.04 | \amethyst | Dwayne__: do you want to convert it from smoothwall to debian or something? |
| 19:21.49 | Dwayne__ | i did this for devel purpose so i can build c packages and install catalyst and stuff like that |
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| 19:22.31 | simmerz | \amethyst: so what does that mean in reality? I've deleted the symlink for the persistent net generator |
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| 19:23.31 | \amethyst | simmerz: that should be fine across udev upgrades... if you want to be extra safe, you can rename the original to something else |
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| 19:24.25 | simmerz | thanks |
| 19:25.25 | Spiritus55 | Is it possible to create your own ISP? |
| 19:25.27 | xingu | I'm sure there's a special place reserved in hell for me |
| 19:25.36 | Spiritus55 | I know if it is, it would be very pricey, but is it? |
| 19:25.46 | petemc | of course, anything is possible |
| 19:27.46 | tdn | I have a system with two disks: one with an installed Debian system; and one with some data, but with 20GB free space. I have no screen nor a keyboard to the system. I only have SSH access. The harddisk with the system on is broken, but the system does boot. Now I would like to install Debian on the data disk. I think I can do this using chroot and debootstrap, but I am not sure how. I hope you can give me a helping hand. |
| 19:27.48 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: What do you mean by ISP? |
| 19:28.10 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: Internet Service Provider... |
| 19:28.17 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: What kind of internet service? |
| 19:28.23 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: lulz, I mean like give internet to people (broadband) |
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| 19:29.04 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: I realize that the internet is just a series of computers/servers hooked up to a wire that (virtually speaking) runs to every computer in the world (that has internet) |
| 19:29.05 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: residential or business? |
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| 19:29.28 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: I mean, like for like 5 people... |
| 19:29.48 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: I was thinking like "Just for me" but, I have to have internet to distribute it. |
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| 19:29.53 | Jemt | Greetz. Can someone tell me why the following command dosn't mount my USB device as read- and writable to all users ? mount /dev/sda2 /media/usb -o defaults,noatime,umask=000 |
| 19:30.02 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: Where would you be getting your bandwidth from? |
| 19:30.11 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: I guess I mean that I would like to have what the phone company has. How do they do it? Where do they get their internet? |
| 19:30.43 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: they have peering agreements with other big ISPs, to exchange each others' traffic |
| 19:31.06 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: So, it's just a bunch of wires running between each other? |
| 19:31.11 | pablo__ | hi, i am a user of debian lenny, i get crashes on iceweasel/epiphany, my it be a problem of my computer? |
| 19:31.15 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: in a sense, yes |
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| 19:31.45 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: For something of the size you are talking about, you'd probably want to buy bandwidth from another ISP |
| 19:31.49 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: So, if I had my own "wire" running to my house, I would have an essential ISP? |
| 19:32.02 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: you have to have someone willing to listen to the other end of the wire |
| 19:32.16 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: that's what costs money :) |
| 19:32.31 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: Why wouldn't they? |
| 19:33.21 | \amethyst | Spiritus55: Because that's how they make their money |
| 19:33.27 | kspath | Spiritus55: What? are you going to get an OC3 and peer ? |
| 19:34.03 | Spiritus55 | \amethyst: hm... I mean i know it'd be like 1000 a month or something at least... |
| 19:34.09 | kspath | Spiritus55: your traffic has to go through other networks to get from point a to point b |
| 19:34.31 | kspath | Spiritus55: likely you would just want to colocate in a large data center |
| 19:34.33 | Spiritus55 | kspath: i know, and it also has to go to a DNS server, if you didn't type in the IP address... |
| 19:34.44 | Spiritus55 | kspath: What do you mean? move? |
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| 19:35.08 | kspath | Spiritus55: you can have a T3 or larger to your location(s) |
| 19:35.13 | roxy_ | If I have this line in /etc/syslog.conf: "jboss.* -/var/log/jboss.log" . shouldn't the file /var/log/jboss.log be created empty after /etc/init.d/syslog reload ? |
| 19:35.31 | Spiritus55 | kspath: how much is the lowest I could get T3 for? |
| 19:35.42 | kspath | Spiritus55: I was just trying to indicate that you can get more than bandwidth of a T3 for less money by colocating servers |
| 19:35.53 | xingu | son of a ... |
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| 19:35.55 | kspath | Spiritus55: look it up |
| 19:36.08 | xingu | and so racoon 0.7 is less broken for ipv6 than debianly current. |
| 19:36.12 | Spiritus55 | kspath: What do you mean by colocating servers? |
| 19:36.12 | xingu | sheesh |
| 19:36.16 | xingu | what a waste of a day |
| 19:36.25 | iPod-nano | Is my Debian box preventing incoming traffic from accessing it outside of my local network? |
| 19:36.40 | dvs | xingu: why? you went to work? |
| 19:36.41 | kspath | Spiritus55: do searches for T3 peering OC3 T1 colo colocation ... |
| 19:36.54 | Spiritus55 | Ok, I just got colocation, and that sounds expensive. |
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| 19:37.08 | Spiritus55 | kspath: I mean, they just basically hook up internet to your server, right? |
| 19:37.28 | dvs | Spiritus55: and you put your server in their office |
| 19:37.30 | pablo__ | does someone else gets crashes on iceweasel? |
| 19:37.36 | xingu | dvs: troubleshooting known bugs in down revision code. |
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| 19:37.44 | dvs | pablo__: all the time |
| 19:37.48 | kspath | Spiritus55: contact all your local, regional, national ISPs and explain what you need and compare their offerings |
| 19:37.53 | defrysk | never |
| 19:38.17 | pablo__ | dvs: do you use lenny? |
| 19:38.20 | Spiritus55 | kspath: I wasn't gonna actually do it, not now I mean, I'm dirt poor (only 15) just seeing what I'd have to do just to get it done. |
| 19:38.25 | dvs | pablo__: yes |
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| 19:38.47 | pablo__ | dvs: and what do you do? |
| 19:38.53 | kspath | Spiritus55: ummm by the time you would want to / be able to everything will be different |
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| 19:39.17 | Spiritus55 | kspath: I'll come back then, and ask you the same stuff. |
| 19:39.20 | Spiritus55 | :) |
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| 19:39.29 | defrysk | dvs tries another pr0n site when his browser crashes pablo__ |
| 19:39.38 | dvs | heh |
| 19:39.41 | defrysk | ;p |
| 19:39.53 | dvs | :-> |
| 19:40.11 | pablo__ | defrysk: lol |
| 19:40.22 | kevinO | which cd do i need to install debian server? or do i need the first dvd? |
| 19:40.41 | dvs | kevinO: that will work. |
| 19:40.47 | pablo__ | defrysk: or that is your solution! do you also get crashes? |
| 19:40.50 | \amethyst | kevinO: the first CD is enough, if you have internet access when installing |
| 19:41.05 | Gathond | kevin0 depends, either just get the netinstall CD (if you have a fast internet connection) or get all the CD's |
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| 19:41.19 | defrysk | pablo__, when does your browser crash ? randomly or on particular sites ? flash ? java ? |
| 19:41.40 | kevinO | gathong, is the netinstall cd the first cd? |
| 19:41.54 | kevinO | gathond* |
| 19:42.13 | pablo__ | defrysk: on particular sites i think. |
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| 19:42.29 | pablo__ | defrysk: is this normal? |
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| 19:42.32 | defrysk | pablo flash ? or java ? |
| 19:42.37 | defrysk | or javascript ? |
| 19:42.40 | Gathond | kevinO: not really, but the first CD should do the same |
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| 19:43.00 | pablo__ | defrysk: no flash nor java, may be javascript |
| 19:43.10 | Gathond | kevinO: the netinstall is usually only 150 MB though, so unless you already have the first CD then you can save some time just downloading that |
| 19:43.34 | defrysk | pablo possibly a poorly written site firefox does not like |
| 19:44.09 | kevinO | ok thanks gathond |
| 19:44.10 | pablo__ | defrysk: this also happens with epipchany and galeon, is this something common? |
| 19:44.19 | kevinO | thanks to all of you |
| 19:44.48 | defrysk | pablo__, I believe they depend on firefox/iceweasel |
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| 19:45.06 | pablo__ | defrysk: which browser do you use? |
| 19:45.14 | defrysk | I use Iceweasel |
| 19:45.23 | pablo__ | defrysk: do you also get crashes? |
| 19:45.28 | defrysk | hardly |
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| 19:45.40 | pablo__ | defrysk: why, thats not fear |
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| 19:45.57 | defrysk | sometimes a plugin goes funny like totem |
| 19:46.13 | defrysk | but thats about it |
| 19:46.44 | kspath | pablo__: alternate web browsers dillo and links has a -g option that can be quite nice |
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| 19:47.04 | kspath | pablo__: err links2 has a -g option |
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| 19:48.09 | pablo__ | kspath: yes, but i cant read well nor wikipedia neither slashdot with them |
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| 19:49.00 | pablo__ | kspath: and also gmail |
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| 19:50.44 | defrysk | Pablo, install adblock plus for firefox maybe that helps |
| 19:50.58 | gener1c | !enter |
| 19:50.58 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 19:51.39 | kspath | pablo__: use firefox/iceweasel on trusted sites and dillo/links2 -g on others |
| 19:51.46 | DustyBin | has anyone here got Lag on freenode? |
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| 19:52.39 | pablo__ | defrysk: ok i will try adblock |
| 19:52.46 | pablo__ | kspath: ok, i will try |
| 19:52.47 | gener1c | i will never learn how to spell icewessle |
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| 19:52.58 | euthymos | hi |
| 19:53.02 | gener1c | iceweasle |
| 19:53.09 | euthymos | is there any way I can restart network configuration |
| 19:53.12 | defrysk | icewiesel |
| 19:53.17 | jetscreamer | fox |
| 19:53.18 | euthymos | the one included in the setup, I mean |
| 19:53.18 | gener1c | lolz |
| 19:53.40 | jetscreamer | yeh lets just call it icefox? |
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| 19:53.43 | gener1c | i hope they never cancel the killall firefox-bin or else i wont be able to kill icewissi |
| 19:53.49 | foug | i downloaded bitlbee but the command "bitlbee" doesn't open it |
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| 19:54.53 | kspath | foug: do not read the documention, or help or anything online about it, else you might learn about it |
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| 19:55.23 | abrotman | kspath: ? |
| 19:55.25 | foug | what? i did a man bitlbee but i don't see how to launch it and connect to aim kspath |
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| 19:56.17 | kspath | foug: bitlbee is a daemon you must configure it. I learned a lot about it from man and --help and online docs |
| 19:56.44 | kspath | foug: in only 15 minutes I got most of it working and used weechat and irssi with it |
| 19:56.55 | foug | kspath: ok so i need to find do bitlbee -D [information sand lots of it] ? |
| 19:56.58 | kspath | foug: you can do it as well |
| 19:56.59 | foug | can you link the online docs? |
| 19:57.04 | hark | !helpfile bitlbee foug |
| 19:57.04 | dpkg | For help with bitlbee foug, look in /usr/share/doc/bitlbee foug There may be an examples/ directory there as well. |
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| 19:57.40 | infinity0 | can someone make dpkg an op or something so it's easier to select his name |
| 19:57.40 | kspath | foug: I used a search engine to and wikipedia to find out more about bitlbee |
| 19:57.49 | HardDisk_WP | how do I tell all GCC processes to run w/ nice level -10? |
| 19:58.43 | kspath | foug: I made the assumption you have access to web browser and unfiltered access to use http:// and can use yahoo.com or google.com or other |
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| 19:59.21 | foug | kspath: i am trying to read this wiki atm to see if it tells me what to do |
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| 19:59.48 | defrysk | http://princessleia.com/bitlbee.php |
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| 20:00.38 | foug | bitlbee doesn't open unless i am root, and then it asks "why are you using root?" |
| 20:00.56 | fmz | hey i just installed kde |
| 20:01.01 | fmz | how can i run it from line |
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| 20:01.19 | kspath | foug: there is a directory structure you can use root to chown to your username |
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| 20:01.35 | kspath | foug: after that you might be ok if I remember correctly |
| 20:01.38 | foug | kspath: i don't understand |
| 20:02.03 | kspath | foug: sorry, I do not remember all the details. read the error messages and docs |
| 20:02.18 | vaithi | hi |
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| 20:02.28 | kspath | foug: bitlbee is not like kopete or gaim or the like there is more to know and do |
| 20:03.12 | vaithi | where is store kernel in debian |
| 20:03.20 | hark | foug: how about you read the README.Debian in /usr/share/doc/bitlbee/ at least? |
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| 20:03.37 | foug | kspath: yes i understand that but if i can't get the program to open then what's the point? being root won't let me run the program and it seems my regular login sucks or something |
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| 20:04.25 | defrysk | vaithi, /boot |
| 20:04.26 | foug | hark: how do i open text files? |
| 20:04.44 | foug | i went to the directory, so far |
| 20:04.49 | hark | hmm |
| 20:04.55 | kspath | foug: nano or nedit or gedit or emacs or vim or whatever you prefer |
| 20:04.56 | defrysk | foug, less /path/to/txt |
| 20:05.05 | defrysk | or cat |
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| 20:05.08 | foug | tried gedit that didn't work |
| 20:05.16 | hark | use nano |
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| 20:06.13 | jetscreamer | nano -w |
| 20:06.48 | foug | ok i used nano, first time doing this how do i get out? ^X doesn't work |
| 20:07.00 | defrysk | ctrl-x |
| 20:07.04 | foug | ahh |
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| 20:07.18 | defrysk | then y |
| 20:07.26 | defrysk | if you edited it that is |
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| 20:07.31 | kspath | foug: caret/hat char is short-hand for control/ctrl |
| 20:07.38 | foug | didn't seem like there was anything i needed to ed it |
| 20:07.46 | foug | kspath: got'cha |
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| 20:08.09 | foug | i need to open the program, i found a readme online. But still can't open the program? |
| 20:09.01 | kspath | foug: have you considered that maybe bitlbee is a little advanced for you right now? |
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| 20:09.18 | foug | no, i'm pretty good at following directions |
| 20:09.34 | defrysk | foug, kspath just gave you one ;p |
| 20:09.39 | foug | and a quick learner, i can't figure out why the program won't run correcly though. |
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| 20:09.46 | hark | not at reading apparently |
| 20:09.47 | foug | yes i see but i can't run the program as root or my regular login |
| 20:09.55 | foug | ya thanks hark |
| 20:10.09 | kspath | foug: most documention is not in the form of a step by step how-to or recipe |
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| 20:10.26 | defrysk | foug, following directions is something else then understanding them |
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| 20:10.54 | foug | yes, ok. So, can you help me with opening the program? |
| 20:10.59 | hark | Fire up your favourite IRC client and connect to localhost:6667 (or 6668), and read the documentation (type help for a list of commands). |
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| 20:11.15 | hark | from the README which you just read... |
| 20:11.27 | foug | as a regular user doing the command bitlbee does nothing, then as root it tells me "Why should you use root to run this?" or something along those lines |
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| 20:11.59 | dalias | if running your own bitlbee is too advanced, just use the public server, im.bitlbee.org |
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| 20:14.31 | foug | ahhh i am doing it now |
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| 20:15.45 | potamota | anyone using pdnsd |
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| 20:19.23 | Pc_Dark | how do I see what outbound connections a program has |
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| 20:24.25 | jelly-home | Pc_Dark: using lsof, for example |
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| 20:26.43 | kevinO | is etch the latest stable version right now? |
| 20:26.57 | defrysk | yes |
| 20:27.08 | kevinO | ty |
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| 20:30.21 | DustyDingo | achso22:26 < kevinO> is etch the latest stable version right now? |
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| 20:30.44 | foug | kspath: ok i have bitlbee running and am logged into an AIM account, i'm having a bit of trouble adding people to my buddylist |
| 20:31.15 | abrotman | isn't there documentation ? |
| 20:31.47 | kevinO | what DustyDingo? |
| 20:31.50 | Hiryu | how safe is testing on the desktop these days? |
| 20:32.17 | defrysk | plenty safe for deskop imo |
| 20:32.38 | Hiryu | hmm |
| 20:32.49 | Hiryu | cuz I put in 2.6.23-rc6 and it broke klaptop |
| 20:32.54 | kevinO | DustyDingo: achso22:26 < kevinO> is etch the latest stable version right now? |
| 20:32.57 | Hiryu | currently using etch |
| 20:33.07 | defrysk | Hiryu, hence the rc |
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| 20:33.12 | spx2 | Manderson: r u sure ? |
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| 20:33.35 | Hiryu | defrysk: I don't think the kernel is broken, I think there's a new acpi interface more likely |
| 20:33.35 | Dougy | Does Debian have Xen available for install via APT? |
| 20:33.56 | DustyDingo | sorry, i have 4 differend mice attached to my notebook loll on my couche ;) |
| 20:33.57 | Hiryu | Dougy: looks like it |
| 20:34.04 | DustyDingo | *+loll |
| 20:34.23 | Hiryu | I think I'll be trying xen on wed or thurs :D |
| 20:34.27 | Hiryu | on my new computer |
| 20:35.56 | Hiryu | is hardware virtualization really slower than software virtualization? |
| 20:36.05 | foug | in bitlbee/irc, what does Act: #, # mean? |
| 20:36.42 | Dougy | Hiryu |
| 20:36.47 | Hiryu | Yes? |
| 20:36.51 | Dougy | so apt-get install xen essentially is all thats necessary |
| 20:36.54 | Dougy | of course apt-cache to find the exact |
| 20:37.01 | Hiryu | lemme verify |
| 20:37.25 | Hiryu | I've never used or installed xen before |
| 20:37.27 | Hiryu | but... |
| 20:37.30 | Hiryu | there's a lot of stuff |
| 20:37.31 | Hiryu | heh |
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| 20:37.35 | boxedman | Hi all |
| 20:37.46 | Hiryu | Dougy: should I msg it to you? |
| 20:37.52 | Dougy | Sure |
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| 20:38.15 | Dougy | anyone here like forums? |
| 20:38.36 | Hiryu | not I |
| 20:38.39 | foug | ok i have added a buddy for bitlbee but /msg oscar theirname doesn't work |
| 20:38.40 | Hiryu | I suppose I should get into them though |
| 20:38.55 | foug | i've tried @aol.com at the end of their name as well it only adds for Acts: to my Acts list, whatever Acts are I don't know |
| 20:38.56 | Aleksej__ | good night |
| 20:39.56 | boxedman | I've got a samba server running which is doing fine with win XP, but when I try to get a windows 2003 server to join the domain I get the following error: |
| 20:39.56 | boxedman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:40.02 | boxedman | Anyone seen this before? |
| 20:40.13 | Dougy | ive never used bitlbee |
| 20:40.18 | Dougy | how does one reach it |
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| 20:44.08 | kspath | !non-free |
| 20:44.08 | dpkg | well, non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the DFSG. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 20:44.43 | atomiku | Hmm... Firestarter running as soon as the system boots? |
| 20:44.56 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 20:45.03 | atomiku | Hi :) |
| 20:45.29 | Mazingaro | I experienced severl lockups with opengl screensaver (radeon 9200 + athlon 1200 + debian lenny) |
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| 20:48.54 | gonzaloaf | hi, why do I receive this message of the gnome-keyring http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4474/screenshotunlockkeyringtf7.png ?? |
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| 20:50.06 | gonzaloaf | I have run a netstat command and got that http://pastebin.ca/699985 |
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| 20:50.38 | gonzaloaf | any clue? |
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| 20:52.06 | gonzaloaf | nothing? |
| 20:52.09 | gonzaloaf | :( |
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| 20:55.49 | abrotman | what's wrong with that ? |
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| 20:58.20 | Sajes | Why is the distro 21 CD's? |
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| 20:58.32 | \amethyst | Sajes: because it contains a lot of software |
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| 20:58.34 | abrotman | don't needthem all |
| 20:58.39 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 20:58.40 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing! |
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| 20:59.47 | vin` | Sajes: if you ask me you should get a ~40MB iso |
| 21:00.17 | defrysk | businesscard iso |
| 21:00.21 | abrotman | no wayt .. netinst! |
| 21:00.26 | Sajes | vin`, that's a lot better than 15GB - Dial up doesn't mix well with big st00fs. :) |
| 21:00.35 | vin` | abrotman: that's ~110MB? |
| 21:00.40 | Sajes | abrotman, what's the difference? |
| 21:00.45 | Sajes | 135-175mb |
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| 21:00.56 | abrotman | the netinst has the system on the disc .. the BC requires internet to finish |
| 21:00.59 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, that I am not connecting via vnc right now |
| 21:01.00 | vin` | Sajes: if you have dial-up, you'd be better off getting atleast CD1 |
| 21:01.05 | abrotman | gonzaloaf: someone is |
| 21:01.10 | Crystal | hello, i've a problem with debian.. when boot it say: hda: lost interrupt (i using netinstall) |
| 21:01.15 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, :o |
| 21:01.40 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, how can I protect me? |
| 21:01.52 | Sajes | vin`, I'll probably end up just ordering a cd set. |
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| 21:02.18 | Sajes | although, it's more than I like to spend on 21 cd's. ($20.00) |
| 21:02.32 | vin` | Sajes: I've done it over dial-up, possible, would be easier if you have a proper modem |
| 21:02.33 | ravn | anyone can tell me what is the easiest way to record sound under debian/gnome? |
| 21:03.08 | gonzaloaf | ravn, sound recorder |
| 21:03.30 | Crystal | what i need do? |
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| 21:04.58 | Sajes | vin`, you downloaded 15GB at 2.5KBPS? |
| 21:05.18 | ravn | gonzaloaf: I'm using that, but as soon as a try to choose Microphone, it switches to Synth and the starts recording and when I press stop nothing has been recorded... |
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| 21:06.14 | vin` | Sajes: no, I only had the biz card and a lot of juggles |
| 21:06.23 | gonzaloaf | ravn, mmmmm |
| 21:07.08 | Sajes | vin`, 50mb over dial up only takes me ~5 hours. 15gb would take.. months.. |
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| 21:07.43 | vin` | Sajes: you'll never need 15GB, CD1 should suffice, or get the netinstaller and get your modem going |
| 21:08.48 | Sajes | vin`, I've got a winmodem atm - Just checking into which distro would suite me best. I've tried Ubuntu and SimplyMEPIS so far.. SimplyMEPIS sucked, and Ubuntu was decent. :p |
| 21:09.27 | vin` | Sajes: that's what I had, shitty, but will work |
| 21:09.55 | vin` | Sajes: if you have a distro already, you could try debootstrap or a variant |
| 21:10.38 | vin` | !badgerknoppix |
| 21:10.38 | dpkg | Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix Ubuntu Ubuntu Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix Knoppix A MEPIS! A MEPIS! |
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| 21:10.47 | vin` | had to ;) |
| 21:11.03 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, have you seen the ip that tried to connect in the netstat output? is truncated |
| 21:11.21 | Seb | ping |
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| 21:11.28 | gonzaloaf | pong |
| 21:11.32 | Seb | aight |
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| 21:11.58 | mathiazz | hi |
| 21:12.02 | abrotman | gonzaloaf: you sure that's not you ? |
| 21:12.14 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, yep |
| 21:12.19 | abrotman | ok |
| 21:12.20 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, this is not my ip |
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| 21:13.51 | czeroX | how do i get to a dir where it goes like this on a guide: ~/blackboxrc |
| 21:14.33 | mathiazz | i have a standart debian etch. i work usually with the user "mat". i have created a new user "jc". when jc insert an usb key, it's mounted in /media/usb by udev, with the user "mat" !!! so "jc" can't umount properly the key. why the /media/usb belongs to mat???? |
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| 21:15.51 | mathiazz | plz help me, there is nothing in my /etc/fstab about /dev/sdxx |
| 21:15.52 | rvsjoen | did mat create the folder ? |
| 21:16.05 | mathiazz | let me see |
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| 21:16.37 | mathiazz | no |
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| 21:16.50 | mathiazz | when i umount the key it belong to root |
| 21:16.55 | gonzaloaf | mathiazz, ~ means home directory |
| 21:17.04 | mathiazz | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-08-02 21:48 usb0 |
| 21:17.09 | gonzaloaf | mathiazz, excuse me |
| 21:17.21 | gonzaloaf | czeroX, ~ means home directory |
| 21:17.38 | rvsjoen | can you mount it with the "user" option ? |
| 21:18.19 | czeroX | im trying to find the config file for blackbox, i already went to home and i found nothing.. any suggestion? |
| 21:18.21 | mathiazz | i dont no but it s for an old user who dont know about computer, i want it automatic |
| 21:18.45 | mathiazz | when i insert the key : drwxr-xr-x 12 mat mat 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 usb0 |
| 21:18.50 | mathiazz | =( |
| 21:18.50 | abrotman | czeroX: cd ~/.blackbox |
| 21:19.08 | rvsjoen | I know practically nothing about automounting, so I couldn't help you there, but i'm sure there would be some place to tell automount to use the user option when mounting |
| 21:19.10 | czeroX | yeah im already there |
| 21:19.24 | czeroX | and all i have is nsl and styles |
| 21:19.38 | Crystal | hello, i've a problem with debian.. i want install it but when boot say "hda: lost interrupt" |
| 21:19.42 | abrotman | czeroX: ls -a |
| 21:19.46 | mathiazz | rvsjoen : is it in udev configuration? or somewhere else? |
| 21:20.14 | czeroX | what about that... i have the same |
| 21:20.33 | abrotman | czeroX: what file are you looking for ? |
| 21:21.04 | rvsjoen | seriously, automounting is not my thing :) i have no idea, maybe someone else knows |
| 21:21.25 | abrotman | i have cleaning up . files |
| 21:21.28 | abrotman | hate |
| 21:21.45 | czeroX | blackboxrc |
| 21:22.06 | streuner | abrotman: sounds like job for cron :-) |
| 21:22.16 | mathiazz | i have a standart debian etch. i work usually with the user "mat". i have created a new user "jc". when jc insert an usb key, it's mounted in /media/usb by udev, with the user "mat" !!! so "jc" can't umount properly the key. why the /media/usb belongs to mat???? |
| 21:22.19 | czeroX | on the page it says that's the name |
| 21:22.30 | czeroX | where de menu configuration is |
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| 21:23.01 | abrotman | streuner: if i knew which i wnated gone |
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| 21:23.34 | czeroX | i think ill have to create it |
| 21:23.42 | czeroX | there's no such file |
| 21:24.14 | czeroX | so this command |
| 21:24.45 | czeroX | "cd ~/.dir" works to go directly to that dir without going on a search? |
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| 21:28.23 | venger | should I update a changed MAC address directly into /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_peristent-net.rules or is there a preferred way. the file does state it can be modified |
| 21:28.36 | abrotman | streuner: to let you know how much cruft i have .. i just found a .redcarpet directory in $HOME |
| 21:29.38 | Coweater | anyone know a fix for mplayer displaying a grey box when i try to play stuff? I know restarting X will work, but that's a pain everytime this happens |
| 21:29.41 | versuchsanstalt | which app do wise #debian folk recommend for extracting audio from an ogg video and encoding to mp3? |
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| 21:32.19 | chemotax | dear sirs |
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| 21:33.40 | gonzaloaf | czeroX, runs this as root: #updatedb && locate blackboxrc |
| 21:34.15 | streuner | abrotman: well, these kind of space shouldnt be that much... |
| 21:34.37 | abrotman | $ du -sh .redcarpet/ |
| 21:34.37 | abrotman | 908K .redcarpet/ |
| 21:34.59 | streuner | 1MB, whats that nowadays :-) |
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| 21:36.50 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: ever listen to "Ozric Tentacles"? :-) |
| 21:37.04 | igli | heh they're mad ;) |
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| 21:37.31 | versuchsanstalt | :) |
| 21:38.17 | igli | hi i'm trying to find a couple of files from debian install: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk and /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/makefile.mk which package are they in for svn.debian.org (or is there a page i can find a file on) |
| 21:38.53 | versuchsanstalt | i'll try mencoder to solve my problem. |
| 21:39.03 | abrotman | !tell igli about search |
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| 21:39.30 | igli | thanks very much, abrotman :) |
| 21:39.53 | abrotman | !tell igli about apt-file |
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| 21:40.12 | igli | http://packages.debian.org/ was what i needed thanks ;) |
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| 21:41.25 | seekin | xingu hi back there :). Think you could tell me exactly and not too complicated what that "Use Rx and Tx Polling" was for? Performance has become really nice so far :) |
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| 21:42.09 | kspath | !tell me about non-free |
| 21:42.21 | abrotman | !tell kspath about selftell |
| 21:43.01 | seekin | xingu but clients told me that some data is received a bit to slow. network has to send data i bit faster if its possible. can it be with that "Use Rx and Tx Polling"-thing ? |
| 21:43.20 | igli | hmm cdbs looks nice |
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| 21:53.00 | simonrvn | odine pollutes dns space |
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| 21:55.30 | Nyle | !tell kspath -about dpkgbot |
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| 21:55.45 | Nyle | this is a pretty alright sunday |
| 21:55.49 | kspath | Nyle: really? |
| 21:55.53 | Nyle | yeh |
| 21:55.58 | Nyle | I don't see too many morons in here today |
| 21:56.03 | Nyle | !sunday |
| 21:56.03 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 21:56.09 | Iradigalesc | I get: |
| 21:56.11 | Iradigalesc | There is a screen on: |
| 21:56.13 | Iradigalesc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.14 | Iradigalesc | There is no screen to be resumed matching 8. |
| 21:56.16 | Iradigalesc | And I can't detach the screen 84... |
| 21:56.17 | Iradigalesc | any solution? |
| 21:56.21 | Nyle | screen -d |
| 21:56.23 | simonrvn | ... |
| 21:56.24 | Nyle | and then screen -r |
| 21:56.34 | Nyle | first forcibly detatch, and then reattach? |
| 21:56.34 | simonrvn | -dr ;) |
| 21:56.35 | kspath | Nyle: I am quite familiar with dpkg and sunday but thank you |
| 21:56.38 | Nyle | i have no idea what you're trying to do |
| 21:56.45 | Nyle | simonrvn: I was trying to explain to him the procedure |
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| 21:56.52 | Iradigalesc | Thanks! |
| 21:56.56 | Nyle | kspath: i wasn't talking about you |
| 21:57.00 | Nyle | kspath: you're alright |
| 21:57.10 | simonrvn | oh |
| 21:57.24 | igli | saturday night is the worst in #bash and #gentoo-chat i know that much; all the drunks go online |
| 21:57.30 | Nyle | lol |
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| 21:57.36 | Nyle | its saturday night, go figure |
| 21:57.42 | igli | yeah |
| 21:58.05 | igli | still a pita |
| 21:58.07 | [H4z3] | Hey guys, when i instaled debian i chose to install the server package (on the desktop package) but i wanted to remove it, any help? lol |
| 21:58.27 | igli | reinstall? |
| 21:58.39 | simonrvn | aptitude install brain |
| 21:58.40 | [H4z3] | uh, reinstall debian? :| |
| 21:58.53 | igli | dunno man |
| 21:59.07 | [H4z3] | simonrvn: Helpful, thanks! |
| 21:59.11 | streuner | igli: not only there :-) |
| 21:59.26 | igli | hehe i believe it, streuner ;-) |
| 21:59.26 | simonrvn | you're so very welcome |
| 21:59.54 | igli | what do you mean when you installed you installed server on desktop? |
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| 22:00.17 | igli | why not just reinstall since you b0rked it? |
| 22:00.42 | [H4z3] | I installed the desktop version, and it asked if i wanted to install apache with perl etc.. But i wanted to remove that package, without re-installing debian |
| 22:00.50 | Nyle | lol |
| 22:00.54 | igli | hehe ok |
| 22:01.18 | Nyle | [H4z3]: what? |
| 22:01.50 | Nyle | [H4z3]: firstly, which debian release are you using? Secondly, you selected what ? There is no server package afaik even in tasksel |
| 22:02.27 | [H4z3] | Nyle: Etch, And i can't remember what the package was called sorry, It was a part of the visual set-up when i installed |
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| 22:02.52 | igli | you want to uninstall apache and perl for a start, right? |
| 22:03.11 | igli | doesn't synaptic do all that for you? |
| 22:03.13 | Nyle | so you selected all the server options? |
| 22:03.26 | igli | oic |
| 22:03.32 | igli | lmao sorry |
| 22:03.40 | [H4z3] | Nyle: yes, but it says apache2 isn't installed (im guessing because its all in one package) |
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| 22:03.47 | [H4z3] | Sorry, i can't explain it well |
| 22:03.57 | Nyle | [H4z3]: the options you possibly could have selected are desktop env, print server, dns server, file server, webserver, mail server, sql db, laptop, standard system |
| 22:04.07 | Nyle | [H4z3]: which ones did you pick, do you remeber? |
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| 22:04.36 | [H4z3] | Nyle: web server and desktop and sql db (i think) |
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| 22:05.00 | Nyle | [H4z3]: ok, so apt-get --purge remove mysql* apache* |
| 22:05.01 | Nyle | perhaps? |
| 22:05.07 | shark | which program should i use to mount ntfs? is there anything other than ntfs-3g? |
| 22:05.16 | Nyle | shark: the linux ntfs module for read only |
| 22:05.29 | Nyle | shark: comes with stock linux debian kernel I believe |
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| 22:05.42 | shark | Nyle: i need r/w ... |
| 22:05.49 | igli | that's it then |
| 22:05.58 | [H4z3] | Nyle: i'll give it a go, thanks |
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| 22:06.24 | Nyle | shark: use ntfs-3g for best reliability and stability |
| 22:06.34 | Nyle | I still would not suggest ntfsrw under linux |
| 22:06.37 | Nyle | but thats just me |
| 22:06.51 | shark | Nyle: i cant install it |
| 22:06.58 | Nyle | shark: what? |
| 22:07.07 | Nyle | shark: which debian release? |
| 22:07.14 | igli | !xy man |
| 22:07.20 | shark | Nyle: package ntfs-3g has no installation candidate |
| 22:07.29 | shark | Nyle: etch |
| 22:07.31 | Nyle | shark: please answer my question |
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| 22:07.45 | Nyle | yeh, etch doesn't have ntfs-3g |
| 22:07.53 | Nyle | !info ntfs-3g |
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| 22:07.56 | dpkg | ntfs-3g: (read-write NTFS driver for FUSE), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1:1.826-1 (sid), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 84 kB |
| 22:08.02 | Nyle | !info ntfs-3g etch |
| 22:08.07 | Nyle | doean't exist |
| 22:08.13 | [H4z3] | Nyle: nubish question, what does the --purge do? |
| 22:08.14 | Nyle | you could maybe backport it from sid |
| 22:08.16 | GuHhH | i need help with bind + ssl http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37629/ |
| 22:08.23 | Nyle | [H4z3]: man apt-get |
| 22:08.39 | Nyle | [H4z3]: I believe it totally removes everything, including config fiels etc. |
| 22:08.46 | [H4z3] | Nyle: sweet, thanks |
| 22:08.53 | shark | nyle: thanks. how do i backport it? |
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| 22:10.31 | fas3r | hello everybody |
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| 22:12.03 | Nyle | !tell shark -about simple sid backport |
| 22:12.18 | Nyle | its not hard shark , but its not easy either |
| 22:12.28 | dendrite | Ha ha. I just did /msg dpkg tell shark about simple sid backport |
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| 22:13.04 | Nyle | hehe |
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| 22:13.20 | Nyle | dendrite: how are you mate? |
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| 22:13.25 | shark | Nyle: I'm not worried.. i should format it soon anyway ^^ |
| 22:13.26 | dendrite | Hangin in there. |
| 22:13.36 | dendrite | Lots o' chaos this weekend. |
| 22:14.48 | dendrite | Last week was a bit of a death march at work. I expect I'll spend the first part of this week weeding through the diffs to weed out the defects introduced by that sort of effort... |
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| 22:16.16 | shark | Nyle, dendrite: how do i check if ntfs-3g was already backported? |
| 22:16.16 | Nyle | hehe |
| 22:16.23 | abrotman | !bpo |
| 22:16.23 | dpkg | well, backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports> |
| 22:16.24 | Nyle | !bpo |
| 22:16.29 | Nyle | argh |
| 22:16.34 | Nyle | boratman is around I suppose |
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| 22:17.27 | dendrite | shark: You can /msg the bot, and ask about questions, e.g., "/msg dpkg tell me about backports" |
| 22:17.58 | DivineEntity | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.00 | DivineEntity | exit |
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| 22:19.44 | igli | just /msg dpkg backports # wfm |
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| 22:21.18 | abrotman | fehling! |
| 22:21.51 | Sajes | [No0b question] What's Debian Sarge? |
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| 22:21.55 | abrotman | !sarge |
| 22:21.55 | dpkg | well, sarge is Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the previous stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. ISO repository still exists: http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/debian-cd/3.1_r4/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 22:22.11 | Nyle | !oldstable |
| 22:22.11 | dpkg | oldstable is probably the previous stable version of Debian GNU/Linux, currently Sarge (3.1). Previously, Woody. Get old Sarge ISO's here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r6a/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 22:22.23 | shark | i didn't really get this... i downloaded source code for ntfs-3g. was i supposed to do that? |
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| 22:23.02 | Sajes | Cool. So should I go for the newer one or Sarge? |
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| 22:23.14 | abrotman | http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/n/ntfs-3g/ |
| 22:23.20 | abrotman | Sajes: use etch |
| 22:23.21 | karmatronic | Sajes: should go for etch yeah |
| 22:23.55 | Varange | hi all. How do I increase a partition's size? I remember seeing some disk partitioning tool. |
| 22:24.11 | abrotman | !resize |
| 22:24.11 | tomacco | gparted |
| 22:24.15 | abrotman | close enough :) |
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| 22:25.16 | Sajes | Debian is based on Gnome then, i'd assume? |
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| 22:25.29 | tomacco | it has gnome libs |
| 22:25.34 | tomacco | as well as kde libs |
| 22:25.43 | shark | abrotman: what should i get from there? this:ntfs-3g_1.516-1~bpo.1_i386.deb ? |
| 22:25.58 | Varange | tomacco, haven't got X installed |
| 22:26.01 | shark | abrotman: im using etch |
| 22:26.02 | abrotman | shark: you sohuld read the unstructions |
| 22:26.13 | abrotman | shark: start at backports.org ... read the instructions .. do it correctly |
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| 22:26.48 | frankr | What latex package do I want to install |
| 22:26.50 | infinity0 | who here runs iceweasel? i need a slight favour... i just used FEDE to port my profile across to iceweasel from windows, and everything works fine, but all the permissions are at 755/644 |
| 22:26.50 | frankr | texlive right? |
| 22:27.19 | karmatronic | frankr: tetex |
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| 22:27.42 | tomacco | Varange: fdisk? if you can delete and create new |
| 22:27.50 | shark | abrotman: okay, thanks a lot! |
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| 22:28.56 | Varange | tomacco, I'll gave another go with fdisk |
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| 22:29.55 | eshaase | i've setup my laserjet printer and everything was working fine until i printed a job and i ran out of paper, now my printer doesn't work at all, i've tried rebooting, turning off/on my printer, restarting the printer through the cups web interface, etc. anyone have any idea how to resolve this? |
| 22:30.38 | Varange | tomacco, the trouble is that the partition I want to resize is inside an extended partition, and I don't know how to resize that. |
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| 22:31.53 | Sajes | eshaase, did you try inserting more paper? |
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| 22:32.18 | Varange | tomacco, the extended partition goes to sector 1044. First, I dont know how to determine how many sectors I can use in total, and second, how to resize the partition to that number |
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| 22:33.42 | eshaase | Sajes: yep =) |
| 22:34.02 | Sajes | eshaase, then I'm fresh out of suggestions. ;) |
| 22:34.13 | abrotman | eshaase: is there a job stuck in the queue ? |
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| 22:36.10 | eshaase | abrotman: the queue is clear according to gnome's cups manager |
| 22:36.18 | atomiku | I'm trying to get an SSH server running, when I do apt-get install openssh-server it's asking me to insert a CD... I just want to install from FTP/HTTP.... |
| 22:36.38 | atomiku | Perhaps I should add the ubuntu repositories or something... |
| 22:36.44 | abrotman | atomiku: comment out the CD source in /etc/apt/sources.list and run aptitude update |
| 22:36.49 | abrotman | and/or apt-get update |
| 22:36.55 | atomiku | abrotman: Ahh, thanks man. |
| 22:37.15 | abrotman | eshaase: how long did you leave the printer off for ? |
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| 22:38.42 | teh_uber | i got this error: "You have 1 broken package on your system, please use 'Broken' filter to fix the problem" what am i supposed to do? |
| 22:38.45 | eshaase | abrotman: a few seconds |
| 22:38.53 | eshaase | abrotman: well i've tried multiple times, the last time a few seconds |
| 22:38.56 | abrotman | is it a network printer ? |
| 22:39.11 | abrotman | IOW .. can other stuff print to it ? |
| 22:39.26 | abrotman | can you get the printer to print a test page from the printer buttons ? |
| 22:39.47 | TrueDD | good night all |
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| 22:39.51 | Varange | abrotman, when I installed Etch, there was a disk partitioning tool. What is that called? |
| 22:40.00 | abrotman | cfdisk maybe ? |
| 22:40.10 | Varange | thx |
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| 22:42.15 | gryfie__ | oh man.... does anyone realy uses xruise? :) |
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| 22:42.21 | gryfie__ | xcruise? :) |
| 22:42.48 | abrotman | gryfie__: check with popcon |
| 22:42.56 | abrotman | http://popcon.debian.org/ |
| 22:43.06 | magic_pinguim | Hello |
| 22:43.47 | mne | hi guys, can someone help me set up my canon scanner ? sane-fine-scanner finds the scanner and the chipset is supported by the plustek backend. |
| 22:44.14 | mne | however, in /etc/sane.d/ there is no plustek.conf file |
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| 22:45.36 | Varange | abrotman, great, sfdisk is the bee's knees. |
| 22:46.03 | abrotman | do they have knees ? |
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| 22:48.48 | magic_pinguim | i'm sorry i have a few questions here :x im try to install debian in one personal computer here and i check that after a select ... chose standard system after download the software ... the instaalation simple stop :x |
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| 22:49.20 | magic_pinguim | (i try very diferente servers and a few +- 10 times the instalation like this and nathing |
| 22:49.54 | magic_pinguim | only work i descelect all and then ... reboot and dont chose desktop-envinorement standart system .... |
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| 22:50.08 | at0miku | Hmmm -_- |
| 22:50.17 | abrotman | magic_pinguim: which desktop do you want ? |
| 22:50.24 | at0miku | get a list of installed apt-get packages? |
| 22:50.31 | abrotman | !installed |
| 22:50.32 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M'; |
| 22:50.41 | at0miku | Debian has come with loooooooads of stuff installed |
| 22:50.49 | abrotman | at0miku: not by default |
| 22:50.54 | at0miku | Yeah :( |
| 22:50.57 | abrotman | no |
| 22:50.58 | at0miku | I messed up on the install options |
| 22:51.04 | abrotman | then you did it ..not debian |
| 22:51.17 | at0miku | Yeah |
| 22:51.30 | at0miku | When I said "Yeah :(" I was agreeing that it doesnt coem by default |
| 22:51.39 | at0miku | I did the netinstall, then must have left something selected |
| 22:51.48 | abrotman | you used tasksel |
| 22:51.55 | magic_pinguim | abrotman netinstall try the etcho and only diference i see is the router ... so is like if is waiting for some extraopen door or something to finih theinstalation :x |
| 22:52.03 | at0miku | Wow this is going to take ages to uninstall |
| 22:52.07 | abrotman | magic_pinguim: which desktop do you want ? |
| 22:52.09 | at0miku | Oh crap |
| 22:52.30 | magic_pinguim | abrotman gnome |
| 22:52.39 | abrotman | magic_pinguim: aptitude install gnome gdm xorg |
| 22:53.34 | magic_pinguim | abrotman i'm not a shure if you understand ... that i cant go to apt-get ... |
| 22:53.56 | abrotman | did you configure your sources? |
| 22:54.02 | abrotman | !es |
| 22:54.02 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:54.02 | shark | abrotman: i installed ntfs-3g and it says it is not safe (i have kernel 2.6.18) what does it mean "unsafe"? |
| 22:54.14 | abrotman | shark: it means it's not safe .. i don't use it .. i just know it's there |
| 22:54.23 | magic_pinguim | abrotman how can i configure the sources if the netinstall stop theinstalation ...?! |
| 22:54.24 | at0miku | In dpkg -l, does "rc" mean removed? |
| 22:54.33 | tomacco | release candidate? |
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| 22:54.35 | magic_pinguim | yes i try dofreente servers even manually |
| 22:54.37 | at0miku | Oh |
| 22:54.46 | at0miku | cause im trying to remove it, but it says it's not installed |
| 22:54.51 | abrotman | !tell magic_pinguim about sources.list |
| 22:54.56 | shark | abrotman: do you use something else? or you dont mess with nfts partitions? |
| 22:55.10 | abrotman | shark: no i don't .. it's not a good filesystem :) |
| 22:55.24 | magic_pinguim | abrotman ... i was say that ... the base-system don`t install ... |
| 22:55.30 | magic_pinguim | why i need that? |
| 22:55.42 | abrotman | magic_pinguim: what language do you speak ? |
| 22:55.54 | shark | abrotman: i got no choice... guess i should get a new kernel... should i get 2.6.20 or 22 ? |
| 22:55.59 | magic_pinguim | what part of the language i spoke you dont understand? |
| 22:56.07 | abrotman | shark: there's a newer kernel at backports.org i think |
| 22:56.21 | magic_pinguim | netinstall whith my new router dont lets install debian starndart system |
| 22:56.26 | magic_pinguim | understand now? |
| 22:56.30 | abrotman | no |
| 22:56.49 | magic_pinguim | abrotman you joking? |
| 22:56.53 | abrotman | no |
| 22:56.59 | magic_pinguim | ok forget thank you very much |
| 22:57.02 | abrotman | !sources.list |
| 22:57.02 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 22:57.05 | magic_pinguim | o0 |
| 22:57.06 | magic_pinguim | 0o |
| 22:57.09 | abrotman | look at the sample .. install what you want |
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| 22:57.28 | tomacco | i think he is trying to say that his install isn't complete |
| 22:57.47 | tomacco | but i dont know where it stopped installing, or if it even did at all |
| 22:57.51 | magic_pinguim | abrotman man i tell you i chose in netinstall manualy the cources and everything i try it 10 times ... |
| 22:58.02 | tomacco | magic_pinguim: what are you looking at on the screen? |
| 22:58.02 | abrotman | magic_pinguim: does your network work at all? |
| 22:58.03 | magic_pinguim | abrotman man i tell you i chose in netinstall manualy the sources and everything i try it 10 times ... |
| 22:58.39 | magic_pinguim | tomacco well i was just try to install here in one system |
| 22:58.47 | gener1c | pidgin-otr dies when i try to generate a key on lenny |
| 22:58.57 | gener1c | reinstalled the package 10 times |
| 22:58.59 | magic_pinguim | abrotman yes it works fine is only blocked to income everything it is ok ... |
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| 22:59.06 | frankr | Whats the latest kernel that fglrx supports? |
| 22:59.14 | frankr | Also, which latex package do I want? |
| 22:59.22 | frankr | I think someone answered me but I missed it |
| 22:59.26 | tomacco | magic_pinguim: ok... but when it stops working, what does the screen say? |
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| 23:00.03 | tomacco | someone said to use tetex |
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| 23:00.25 | frankr | Yeah but I thought that was the deprecated one |
| 23:00.36 | tomacco | i have no idea |
| 23:00.43 | frankr | also there is no tetex package theres tetex-base and etc and they all say texlive transition stuff |
| 23:00.46 | magic_pinguim | tomacco he only thing i see is that the netinstall is stoping me and simple crach and get blocked allways ... like if was waiting ... for some connection ... tosome open door that the system open :x |
| 23:00.49 | abrotman | there's a texlive or soething now |
| 23:01.07 | frankr | ok I thought so |
| 23:01.29 | magic_pinguim | there is only one way toi can install it but this crash or block ... is strage :x |
| 23:01.37 | frankr | Also when I Was setting up debian I made a swap part but somewhere in the setup it said that it wasn't able to use it or something.. like uswswap failed or something like that and now I can't software suspend |
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| 23:02.48 | magic_pinguim | tomacco it simple stay stoped if in netinstall ichose the option standart system or some otheroption only if i unselect them all i can install debian strange :x |
| 23:03.32 | magic_pinguim | if not |
| 23:03.37 | magic_pinguim | blockkk and stop |
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| 23:06.42 | shark | how do see what kernels they have in backports.org? i need 2.6.20 or 2.6.22 |
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| 23:07.10 | abrotman | shark: did you follow the instructions? apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
| 23:09.03 | magic_pinguim | tomacco abrotman yes it works but needto unselect all "standard system ... bla bla" and apt-get blablabla ... .... is strange :x |
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| 23:09.22 | Varange | on bootup, the system wants to keep doig fsck.ext3 /dev/sda9, even though /dev/sda9 doesn't exist anymore. Where would it be getting the list of partitions it has to check from? |
| 23:09.28 | abrotman | don't include me |
| 23:09.34 | magic_pinguim | but my really problem is ... gparted ... is not shrink my hd :x from vista |
| 23:09.36 | shark | abrotman: there is 2.6.21-2-686. is it stable? |
| 23:09.39 | abrotman | Varange: /etc/fstab |
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| 23:09.47 | abrotman | shark: maybe .. you can only try it :) |
| 23:09.49 | Varange | abrotman, thx |
| 23:09.50 | gryfie__ | is bunzip2 nomore part of debian? |
| 23:09.56 | streuner | shark: 2.6.21 isnt in stable |
| 23:10.02 | abrotman | gryfie__: bzip2 |
| 23:10.04 | gryfie__ | (in etch) |
| 23:10.09 | gryfie__ | ah, ok, thx :) |
| 23:10.10 | abrotman | streuner: he asked if it was stable |
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| 23:10.33 | shark | abrotman: there is 2.6-686 too. what's that? |
| 23:10.44 | streuner | metapackage |
| 23:10.54 | Varange | abrotman, gaaah! I'm in single user mode and vi doesn't work. how do I insert a hash before the line that mounts /dev/sda9? |
| 23:11.06 | streuner | it updates to the latest version available |
| 23:11.14 | abrotman | Varange: why doesn't vi work ? |
| 23:11.21 | Varange | no idea |
| 23:11.30 | Varange | in single user mode.... should it work? |
| 23:11.41 | amphi | Varange: specify the full path to it, perhaps |
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| 23:11.49 | Varange | vi: command not found. Ah yes. the apth |
| 23:11.50 | Varange | path |
| 23:11.53 | Varange | thx |
| 23:13.24 | Varange | vi isn't in /bin. Where might it be? |
| 23:14.29 | Varange | all I have is cat |
| 23:14.33 | abrotman | /usr/bin/ ? |
| 23:14.45 | Varange | nothing mounted under /usr |
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| 23:14.52 | utopia_ | which vi |
| 23:15.00 | EmanueleT | hello |
| 23:15.10 | EmanueleT | I have a pretty weird problem: I had to run reiserfsck on my harddisk |
| 23:15.14 | Varange | nothing for which vi |
| 23:15.18 | EmanueleT | now, grub doesn't work! |
| 23:15.27 | utopia_ | apt-get install vi |
| 23:15.29 | EmanueleT | I mean... when I reboot and the boot comes to grub |
| 23:15.34 | EmanueleT | it reboots the system again! |
| 23:15.35 | Varange | utopia_, it was installed. |
| 23:15.37 | abrotman | utopia_: if which works .. right ? |
| 23:15.39 | EmanueleT | some ideas? |
| 23:15.44 | Varange | utopia_, been changing partitions |
| 23:16.04 | Varange | abrotman, lol, yes. which seems to work though... no error message |
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| 23:16.27 | amphi | Varange: well, mount /usr |
| 23:16.44 | Varange | amphi, good point |
| 23:16.57 | amphi | ;) |
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| 23:18.21 | drwahl | i am interested in giving openMosix a shot, but i do not see a package from 'apt-cache search'. is there a package available for debian? |
| 23:18.22 | Varange | amphi, you're da man! |
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| 23:19.03 | Varange | why would reiserfsck change grub I wonder? |
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| 23:19.26 | EmanueleT | uhm... |
| 23:19.28 | EmanueleT | anyone? |
| 23:19.48 | spx2 | yes me |
| 23:19.55 | spx2 | EmanueleT: what seems to be the problem ? |
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| 23:20.45 | EmanueleT | spx2: ah, sorry, you're just arrived |
| 23:20.57 | EmanueleT | spx2: the problem is: after a reiserfsck, grub stopped working! |
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| 23:21.23 | EmanueleT | spx2: the system comes to "Loading GRUB 1.5" and the it reboots again! |
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| 23:22.22 | speleomania | did u try reinstalling grub? |
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| 23:22.52 | EmanueleT | speleomania: as in aptitude reinstall grub? |
| 23:23.07 | EmanueleT | speleomania: I can't run aptitude, since I can't either chroot! |
| 23:23.17 | spx2 | EmanueleT: no ,as in sudo grub-install |
| 23:23.23 | EmanueleT | spx2: did it |
| 23:23.28 | EmanueleT | same thing |
| 23:23.32 | spx2 | EmanueleT: use lilo ? |
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| 23:23.41 | EmanueleT | spx2: I'd have to install it |
| 23:25.24 | spx2 | EmanueleT: so you're telling me you can't boot your machine ? maybe find a livecd nearby and boot from that and then try to fix your box .. |
| 23:26.19 | speleomania | does anyone know how to enable the scroll button of my Logitech 5B mice under X? |
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| 23:26.46 | atlantis0 | . |
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| 23:27.00 | threat | hey |
| 23:27.03 | atlantis0 | hi |
| 23:28.05 | threat | I am using the etch version of spamassassin, I am trying to change what the report template and headers are set to, I clear all report and headers then add my own however they are not showing up in emails |
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| 23:28.23 | threat | only a X-SA-Score header is, and I cannot find any configuration files that sets that |
| 23:28.36 | EmanueleT | spx2: try to fix your box, ok, but how? |
| 23:28.46 | EmanueleT | spx2: if I could chroot, it would be easier... |
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| 23:29.23 | threat | Any ideas? |
| 23:30.05 | threat | any one using spamassassin from etch (version 3.1.7-2) and experiencing or have experienced the same problem? |
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| 23:32.34 | Varange | threat, not me |
| 23:32.59 | threat | Varange: ok, thank you for some feedback all the same :) I hate asking questions in a channel and not getting a response. |
| 23:33.01 | magic_pinguim | if i use gparted to resize the windows vista partition after that the windows dont run :x someone knows some other way to use thta not gparted? :x |
| 23:33.09 | Varange | threat, :) I know what you mean |
| 23:33.12 | sid | Is there any ticketing system that si free/libre, so when emails are sent to support@domain.com, they're automatically turned into a ticket? And I can set priorities, urgent, medium etc? |
| 23:33.27 | abrotman | sid: freshmeat.net ? |
| 23:33.29 | sid | I can assign tickets to various people, and things like that |
| 23:33.41 | abrotman | !pt |
| 23:33.41 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:33.44 | sid | abrotman: There are dozens, I was hoping for a recommendation. |
| 23:33.50 | threat | Varange: it pisses me off, then after a while I get channel rage :( |
| 23:34.10 | abrotman | threat: i use it .. but i've not tried to do that .. |
| 23:34.16 | threat | abrotman: ok |
| 23:34.17 | abrotman | threat: we only score .. and change the header .. that's it |
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| 23:34.34 | Varange | abrotman, sorry to bother you again. My eth0 is missong suddenly. How does Linux detect and install these devices at startup? Where do I start looking? |
| 23:34.42 | abrotman | again ? |
| 23:34.45 | abrotman | dmesg | grep eth |
| 23:34.51 | threat | abrotman: I have updated some spam assassin rules manually, I might try reinstalling it |
| 23:35.36 | Varange | eth0: registered as PCnet |
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| 23:35.53 | Varange | (VMWare) |
| 23:36.08 | abrotman | so eth0 is there |
| 23:36.14 | abrotman | ifconfig -a doesnt' show it ? |
| 23:36.21 | Varange | abrotman, not in ifocnfig |
| 23:36.48 | Varange | but: there is an eth1 |
| 23:37.43 | Varange | abrotman, maybe in the VMware settings? |
| 23:37.55 | abrotman | i don't use vmware |
| 23:37.58 | Varange | lemme try that, brb |
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| 23:39.26 | Varange | abrotman, ok, I've added another NIC. booting now. |
| 23:40.03 | Varange | abrotman, how does Linux decide whether to call it eth0, eth1, or whatever? |
| 23:40.19 | abrotman | udev does that |
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| 23:40.46 | Varange | it has eth1 and eth2 now... still no eth0 :) |
| 23:40.53 | Varange | ah, udev |
| 23:41.00 | Varange | does udev have a conf file? |
| 23:41.07 | abrotman | !z25 |
| 23:41.08 | dpkg | z25 is probably as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to staticly rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. the addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. if you don't want udev to touch your interface names, remove that file and z45_persistent-net-generator.rules in the same directory |
| 23:41.45 | Varange | ok |
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| 23:54.52 | iPod-nano | Does Debian have a firewall enabled by default? |
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| 23:55.31 | Supaplex | iPod-nano: no, but it's installed. |
| 23:55.47 | marco_polo | hi, i have trouble using the 'close sesion' and 'change session ' commands in gnome |
| 23:55.54 | marco_polo | any idea ? |
| 23:56.01 | iPod-nano | Why is it, then, that I can connect to Asterisk from my local network, but not from the internet? |
| 23:56.30 | Supaplex | iPod-nano: are you behind nat? are your ips public? |
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| 23:56.55 | iPod-nano | I'm behind a NAT, but the ports are forwarded. |
| 23:57.14 | Varange | abrotman, just for feedback. I deleted z25_persistent-net.rules and restarted... all works now. Thanks. Interesting to see how nicely that works. |
| 23:57.14 | Absolute0 | does anyone know if i can get a full screen debian on vmware from inside windows? |
| 23:57.30 | Absolute0 | i am getting a quarter of my screen when i do "full screen" |
| 23:57.32 | Varange | Absolute0, yes you can |
| 23:57.35 | Absolute0 | the rest is just black |
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| 23:57.56 | Varange | abrotman, you need to set your graphics settings to the same screen res as the host machine |
| 23:57.59 | Absolute0 | Varange how? |
| 23:58.41 | Varange | Absolute0, can't remember. ask abrotman ... he'll know how to set the screen res and video card settings |
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| 23:58.54 | Absolute0 | abrotman you know? |
| 23:58.56 | Absolute0 | :) |
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| 23:59.33 | Absolute0 | nevermind |
| 23:59.35 | Absolute0 | i did it |
| 23:59.42 | Absolute0 | preferences are there for a reason |
| 23:59.43 | Varange | Absolute0, in Mandriva, the command is XFdrake. Now that is as useful as tits on a bull. |
| 23:59.43 | Absolute0 | :-P |
| 23:59.49 | Varange | ah yes |
