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| 00:00.59 | abrotman | karsten: no .. you'd have to reimplement gasoline first .. can't use stuff that starts with a 'g' |
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| 00:01.17 | karsten | abrotman: kasoline. |
| 00:01.38 | karsten | abrotman: Fortunately, I'm all KDE compliant already. |
| 00:01.45 | abrotman | kself ? |
| 00:02.03 | karsten | abrotman: ksure. |
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| 00:02.23 | karsten | abrotman: Komplete with a K-thing. |
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| 00:05.40 | yigal | kwhats going on? |
| 00:06.17 | azeem | kthxbye |
| 00:06.35 | karsten | yigal: kibitzing |
| 00:06.54 | abrotman | BASEBALL!!!! |
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| 00:06.57 | karsten | yigal: ... or kvetching, it all kdepends. |
| 00:07.20 | yigal | karsten: ill say a kiddish to that |
| 00:07.36 | yigal | karsten: kchiam |
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| 00:07.51 | karsten | yigal: Koi vey! |
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| 00:09.19 | karsten | Y'know ... |
| 00:09.32 | beker | Hello, |
| 00:09.39 | beker | como están |
| 00:09.49 | karsten | ... there ought to be a Yiddish localization of Debian which replaces "reportbug" with "kvetch". |
| 00:10.11 | beker | here speak spanish ? |
| 00:10.31 | abrotman | !es |
| 00:10.31 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:10.41 | plb | Karsten: it would be better if it was a New York Yiddish/English pidgin version |
| 00:11.08 | beker | thank you, |
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| 00:11.51 | Supaplex | !xsane-lineart-scanning++ |
| 00:12.09 | karsten | plb: Point. |
| 00:12.19 | Supaplex | no more lame watermarks :) |
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| 00:13.54 | plb | Wine would become Manischewitz |
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| 00:16.03 | abrotman | plb: that's hardly wine |
| 00:16.16 | abrotman | that's like calling bud light beer ... |
| 00:16.47 | plb | abrotman: well that was what me and my roommates would get drunk on in college |
| 00:17.19 | plb | abrotman: so I guess the analogy holds :-P |
| 00:17.37 | abrotman | that's disgusting |
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| 00:17.55 | abrotman | $6/gallon last i looked |
| 00:19.00 | plb | abrotman: it was better than the Natural Light most people drank |
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| 00:19.37 | abrotman | plb: getting hit by a car is better than having a safe dropped on your head :) |
| 00:20.02 | verte | hi all :) what do I set 'root' to in grub to boot a linux partition on /dev/hda6? |
| 00:20.43 | abrotman | hd(0,5) ... i think |
| 00:20.59 | verte | oh jeez.. zero indexed arrays. I'm so silly. |
| 00:21.19 | verte | ty |
| 00:21.23 | valdyn | verte: (hd0,5) |
| 00:21.29 | abrotman | i was close :) |
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| 00:22.52 | gridl0ck | is there a wireless keyboard led onscreen app/applet? running kde and lenny |
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| 00:23.12 | abrotman | wireless OSD ? |
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| 00:24.12 | gridl0ck | abrotman, logitech LX 710 |
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| 00:26.02 | h2os | trying to setup poptop and i'm getting "GRE: Bad checksum from pppd" |
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| 00:26.49 | h2os | has anyone seen this, any insights? |
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| 00:29.12 | civillian | h2os: at what point do you get this error? at which end? |
| 00:29.45 | h2os | civillian, on the server, when trying to initiate a connection |
| 00:30.28 | civillian | h2os: does the connection succeed? |
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| 00:30.46 | abrotman | gridl0ck: i found one for gnome .. don't see one for kde |
| 00:30.59 | abrotman | gridl0ck: i see xvkbd i guess |
| 00:31.10 | h2os | civillian, i can start the handshake, but seems to fail when it hands it off to pppd |
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| 00:32.05 | gridl0ck | abrotman, thanks - been searching for something for kde - damn keyboard batt dies and no caps or num lock led on the keyboard - kind of pita (: |
| 00:32.14 | abrotman | gridl0ck: maybe ask #kde |
| 00:32.24 | gridl0ck | abrotman, ok will do - thanks (: |
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| 00:32.33 | abrotman | or #debian-kde |
| 00:32.42 | gridl0ck | better (: |
| 00:32.48 | civillian | h2os: are you using a vanilla config? |
| 00:33.19 | h2os | civillian, followed http://poptop.sourceforge.net/dox/debian-howto.phtml |
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| 00:35.46 | h2os | civillian, short answer yes |
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| 00:36.03 | civillian | h2os: can you confirm /etc/pptpd.conf exists ? |
| 00:36.08 | civillian | and /etc/ppp/pptpd-options? |
| 00:36.16 | lutera | hello |
| 00:36.39 | civillian | h2os: did you get 'success' when you did the modprobe? |
| 00:36.41 | lutera | where can i find a good sources.list |
| 00:36.53 | civillian | /dev/zero? |
| 00:37.02 | civillian | :P |
| 00:37.07 | h2os | civillian, yes, only uncommented debug |
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| 00:38.03 | civillian | h2os: i'm only guessing, but checksum error means packet error (or, checksum not being recomputed when encryption is applied) |
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| 00:40.29 | lutera | where can i find a good sources.list? |
| 00:40.51 | abrotman | !sources.list |
| 00:40.51 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 00:41.50 | lutera | abrotman, where can i find my country code --> france |
| 00:42.11 | abrotman | .fr |
| 00:42.12 | hopecon | Database server is apparently down. Please wait a few minutes and retry your query. |
| 00:42.16 | h2os | civillian, versioning issue maybe? |
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| 00:42.31 | lutera | thx |
| 00:42.42 | civillian | h2os: yeh, tell us your versions of ppp and pptpd |
| 00:42.52 | civillian | h2os: and lsmod | grep mpp3 |
| 00:42.54 | civillian | mppe rather |
| 00:43.00 | civillian | habit :P |
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| 00:43.21 | h2os | ppp 2.4.4rel-8 |
| 00:43.37 | h2os | pptpd 1.3.0-2etch2 |
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| 00:43.57 | h2os | ppp_mppe 6436 0 |
| 00:43.57 | h2os | ppp_generic 25908 4 ppp_deflate,bsd_comp,ppp_mppe,ppp_async |
| 00:44.35 | civillian | are you using ppp to connect to the net? |
| 00:46.09 | h2os | civillian, no ethernet behind an ipcop firewall, able to cennect to another m$-pptp server fine |
| 00:47.40 | civillian | h2os: a little bit off subject, but I think ipcop has certificate based VPN, why not use that? |
| 00:47.47 | lutera | someone can help me for the sources list please? |
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| 00:48.02 | lutera | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40885/ |
| 00:48.15 | h2os | civillian, because that my network, and i trying to setup vpn on a freind network |
| 00:48.35 | lutera | its my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40885/ |
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| 00:49.05 | h2os | needs to be as easy point click for the winders guys, i perfer my ssh tunnels :) |
| 00:49.07 | lutera | but i dont have the key |
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| 00:50.54 | abrotman | lutera: aptitude install debian-archive-keyring && aptitude update |
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| 00:53.09 | lutera | thx very much |
| 00:54.09 | PhrkOnLsh | I just got debian installed with gnome and have download some .deb packages. When I try to install with default package manager I end up with n archive containing control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz and debian-binary. Where do I extract/put these? |
| 00:54.30 | lutera | W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 00:54.37 | lutera | i have this error |
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| 00:56.50 | cafuego | So you need to add key 07DC563D1F41B907 to apt. |
| 00:57.16 | cafuego | gpg --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907; gpg --export --armor 07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 00:58.10 | salfrancl | hello everybody |
| 00:58.18 | salfrancl | i have a problem with mod_perl |
| 00:58.32 | salfrancl | i installed mod_perl from debian repository |
| 00:58.34 | salfrancl | but |
| 01:00.07 | salfrancl | mod_perl doesn't work |
| 01:00.14 | civillian | have you enabled the mod? |
| 01:00.17 | salfrancl | i configured the virtual host |
| 01:00.45 | civillian | a2enmod perl |
| 01:00.46 | civillian | ? |
| 01:00.56 | civillian | then /etc/init.d/apache2 reload |
| 01:00.58 | salfrancl | civillian: i enabled perl.load, zembperl.load & zembperl.conf from /etc/apache2/mods-avaiable |
| 01:01.40 | civillian | oh |
| 01:01.40 | civillian | salfrancl: i'm not sure about manually linking.. |
| 01:01.40 | salfrancl | i configured the virtual host |
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| 01:01.41 | civillian | try deleting those links you made and run that a2enmod command |
| 01:02.08 | salfrancl | let my try |
| 01:02.47 | salfrancl | Module name? perl |
| 01:02.47 | salfrancl | This module is already enabled! |
| 01:02.47 | salfrancl | s |
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| 01:03.04 | salfrancl | Module name? zembperl |
| 01:03.04 | salfrancl | This module is already enabled! |
| 01:03.10 | civillian | what is zembperl? |
| 01:04.50 | civillian | dw, googled |
| 01:05.01 | salfrancl | the module provided by 'libapache2-mod-perl2' package .. '/usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_perl.so' |
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| 01:05.57 | salfrancl | there is something that i'm avoiding |
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| 01:06.07 | civillian | salfrancl: maybe try disabling the mods then re-enable them, then reload the web server |
| 01:06.12 | salfrancl | i want to know what |
| 01:06.22 | civillian | a2dismod perl |
| 01:06.45 | civillian | a2dismod embperl |
| 01:06.52 | civillian | not sure if it needs the Z |
| 01:06.57 | salfrancl | i have searched in mod_perl forum at apache web site .. there is a lot of people that have the same problem |
| 01:07.03 | civillian | but you dont have to say mod_perl, just perl |
| 01:07.39 | spq | i have a problem with proftpd, i have updated from debian sarge to etch, and now i cant login to proftpd using user accounts which i can su to... |
| 01:07.46 | civillian | IMHO, if you installed the deb packages required and then run the a2enmod command, features become available after a server restart |
| 01:07.52 | spq | cant find any errors in the log except no such user |
| 01:08.04 | dondelelcaro | spq: and you've restarted proftpd? |
| 01:08.08 | spq | yes |
| 01:08.10 | spq | sometimes |
| 01:08.17 | salfrancl | civillian: i have restarted my machine several times |
| 01:08.24 | dondelelcaro | spq: and what does getent passwd foouser; return? |
| 01:08.34 | civillian | salfrancl: that wont help much more than /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 01:08.45 | spq | the correct line |
| 01:09.03 | civillian | salfrancl: could be a bug |
| 01:09.06 | Tramp_ | salfrancl: does the module show up in /server-info? |
| 01:09.11 | civillian | salfrancl: are you using unstable? |
| 01:09.11 | dondelelcaro | spq: and by restart, I mean you've stopped proftpd and then started it, right? not just reloaded it |
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| 01:09.24 | salfrancl | civillian: thanks .. i'll try to compile the mod_perl from the source |
| 01:09.28 | salfrancl | civillian: i use 4.0 |
| 01:09.47 | spq | yes |
| 01:09.57 | salfrancl | spq: maybe the updated proftpd have a little change in the config file |
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| 01:10.00 | spq | (i even started it in debug mode (no daemon mode) |
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| 01:10.36 | salfrancl | spq: i mean that with the new version came a new way to config the proftpd |
| 01:10.42 | spq | salfrancl the only diff is the inclusion of the modules.conf |
| 01:11.33 | salfrancl | oki |
| 01:11.56 | salfrancl | civillian: i'll try from the source |
| 01:12.19 | spq | i have commented out the include line but still no luck after restart |
| 01:12.58 | jmdc | The process mysqld_safe was using close to 100% of the processor for a few minutes. When I noticed, I tried to stop the mysql server with the init script. After a few seconds, the init script reported success, and the process stuck around. I tried this several times (repeating the same thing, hoping for different results proves that I am in fact, insane ;). I'm not using the mysql server. I installed it a year ago to fiddle around. I decided to |
| 01:13.17 | salfrancl | spq: what backend are you using to authenticate with proftpd? .. pam .. mysql .. ldap? |
| 01:14.09 | spq | pgsql |
| 01:14.18 | spq | but i cant login with su - <user |
| 01:14.23 | spq | > -s /bin/bash |
| 01:14.30 | salfrancl | spq: i suggest you re-check the configuration of that backends and try to watch the .log |
| 01:14.49 | spq | s/cant/can |
| 01:16.06 | Terminus | spq: to switch to the postgres user, su - first and once you're logged in as root, su - postgres |
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| 01:16.20 | Terminus | spq: oh wait, wrong solution. >_< |
| 01:16.24 | spq | ? |
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| 01:16.39 | salfrancl | well .. see you |
| 01:16.42 | Terminus | spq: sorry, got confused. |
| 01:17.20 | spq | i have the problem that i cant ftp but can su to with the user (with and without password question) |
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| 01:20.07 | factor | how can I make a bootable usb with debian |
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| 01:20.50 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 01:20.50 | dpkg | hmm... usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ or http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian |
| 01:20.57 | abrotman | i think you want the second link |
| 01:21.11 | factor | k |
| 01:21.12 | factor | thanks |
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| 01:22.02 | weld | debian-multimedia |
| 01:22.12 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:22.19 | weld | sorry :) |
| 01:25.06 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 01:25.06 | dpkg | from memory, qotd73 is <wokker> initech, i thought greycat disliked him as well, but then i read that he wanted to lick him ... i was most confused |
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| 01:33.12 | spq | hmm |
| 01:33.24 | spq | i can login with a locally created acount |
| 01:33.35 | spq | but not with the ones from the pgsql db |
| 01:33.50 | abrotman | login to what ? |
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| 01:35.08 | spq | proftpd |
| 01:35.24 | spq | i have the problem that i cant ftp since i updated from sarge to etch |
| 01:35.37 | spq | but i can su and the oam configs of su and proftpd are the same |
| 01:35.49 | spq | s/oam/pam/ |
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| 01:39.23 | salfrancl | spq: i read your message |
| 01:39.32 | salfrancl | i think |
| 01:39.52 | salfrancl | the updated proftpd overwrite some configuration file |
| 01:40.10 | salfrancl | and activate the pam backend to authenticate the users |
| 01:40.48 | salfrancl | maybe i'm wrong |
| 01:41.05 | abrotman | they shold have logs |
| 01:41.17 | salfrancl | abrotman: right |
| 01:41.50 | spq | the logs really dont say anything interesting (only no such user) |
| 01:42.39 | spq | and to the updates... there shouldnt be anything else than the config /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf (which is really unchanged) and the pam.d files |
| 01:42.40 | abrotman | spq: put your stuff in verbose mode |
| 01:43.04 | spq | i had proftpd in debug mode but there was nothing interesting |
| 01:43.11 | abrotman | so put pgsql in debug mode |
| 01:43.23 | spq | it is (but does not log anything :/) |
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| 01:43.45 | Azar | hello honorables |
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| 01:45.33 | salfrancl | spq: i never used proftpd |
| 01:45.45 | salfrancl | but i want to know |
| 01:46.06 | salfrancl | you can set the backend from proftpd.conf or modifying /etc/pam.d/proftpd ? |
| 01:46.20 | efaistos | is there still an installer for nvidia |
| 01:46.32 | Azar | efaistos: on etch |
| 01:46.41 | efaistos | lenny |
| 01:46.59 | Azar | um nope, not yet on lenny...gotta go by the ear with the nvidia's one |
| 01:47.07 | spq | salfrancl, yes |
| 01:47.09 | salfrancl | efaistos: search for 'nvidia' text in synaptic o whatever package manager you use |
| 01:47.17 | spq | i have a /etc/pam.d/proftpd |
| 01:47.33 | spq | and i can change the backends via proftpd.conf too |
| 01:47.36 | efaistos | i have only a X tool i need to configure it via ssh |
| 01:47.42 | salfrancl | ohhh |
| 01:47.58 | spq | (but i dont use the proftpd backend thing) |
| 01:48.03 | spq | i want to use pam |
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| 01:48.24 | salfrancl | okix |
| 01:49.00 | salfrancl | then .. avoid to change the backend configuration at proftpd.conf .. i say that don't change the section of backends at proftpd.conf |
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| 01:49.21 | salfrancl | and .. try configure /etc/pam.d/proftpd to use the backend you want .. i.e. .. local accounts .. ldap .. mysql |
| 01:49.31 | Azar | !nvidia one-liner |
| 01:49.32 | dpkg | i guess nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable. |
| 01:50.00 | Azar | so no, no nvidia installer for testing |
| 01:50.31 | spq | salfrancl, i have changed the pam.d/proftpd to use the common-* files, which say to use unix and then pgsql |
| 01:50.44 | salfrancl | okix |
| 01:50.54 | salfrancl | well |
| 01:51.12 | spq | (the files proftpd and su are the same) |
| 01:51.17 | spq | and su works |
| 01:51.26 | salfrancl | if pgsql is cnofigured as the backend for common-* in pam |
| 01:51.48 | salfrancl | then you can use login to get a pgsql credentials |
| 01:51.55 | spq | yes |
| 01:51.59 | salfrancl | i.e. su |
| 01:52.19 | spq | yes |
| 01:52.23 | spq | works fine |
| 01:52.36 | salfrancl | well .. then proftpd must to be able to work fine with a pgsql credential |
| 01:52.46 | spq | (but i have to define -s because the /sbin/nologin is used as shell |
| 01:53.45 | spq | (but the local test acount (just a copy of the getent passwd output) has the same shell - so this cant be the problem) |
| 01:54.02 | spq | how can i "reload" all pam things? |
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| 01:54.18 | salfrancl | spq .. you don't want ftp users have a valid shell |
| 01:54.21 | salfrancl | well .. try to use /bin/false |
| 01:55.01 | salfrancl | i use that to avoid mail users used with exim4 can access to the shell |
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| 01:55.39 | spq | /sbin/nologin works too |
| 01:55.48 | salfrancl | spq pam have no reload command |
| 01:55.56 | spq | hmm |
| 01:56.05 | salfrancl | you make a change in /etc/pam.d/anyfile and automatically the changes are applied |
| 01:56.14 | spq | hmm |
| 01:56.21 | spq | and whats with the pam lib? |
| 01:57.04 | salfrancl | be more explicit |
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| 01:59.01 | BarnacleBob | at what point in the boot process does the root partition get remounted read write? (what script specifically) or is it in the initrd.img |
| 02:01.46 | dondelelcaro | BarnacleBob: it's in /etc/rcS.d/S10checkrootfs.sh |
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| 02:02.09 | BarnacleBob | dondelelcaro, ah! rcS i was looking in the run levels. thanks much |
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| 02:04.29 | dondelelcaro | BarnacleBob: yeah, the normal runlevels only run after rcS; pretty much all of early boot is in rcS |
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| 02:05.11 | BarnacleBob | right. i didn't realize there was an rcS the other distro i use has all that in a single script then goes to run levels |
| 02:05.15 | basanta | what is the iptables command to redirect all my client request through squid server ? |
| 02:06.22 | Maliuta | iptables -A FORWARD -j DROP |
| 02:06.26 | civillian | lol |
| 02:06.44 | Maliuta | it will vary depending on your network configuration |
| 02:07.11 | dondelelcaro | yuck. monolithic rcS bad |
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| 02:08.15 | krono | i have a qmail server with smtp auth on however user can still send emails to the local allowed domains from the outside any ideas on how to fix this issue |
| 02:09.11 | dondelelcaro | that's pretty normal, but #qmail is the place to ask that question |
| 02:09.35 | Maliuta | basanta: you will be wanting something that is in the nat table PREROUTING chain that does -j REDIRECT --to-destination <inisert_ip>:<port> |
| 02:09.45 | dondelelcaro | (and since it doesn't exist, that should tell you about whether you want to actually use qmail) |
| 02:10.21 | dondelelcaro | well, the channel exists, but anyway |
| 02:11.10 | Ronin | krono: try #qmail and be patient like i said |
| 02:11.56 | Ronin | they have a blind spot here regarding qmail krono ;) |
| 02:13.11 | spq | qmail is old and not developed anymore |
| 02:13.42 | spq | you should really think about switching to postfix (a very good mta in my eyes) |
| 02:13.44 | Ronin | spq: yes and no, he's apparently working on a new release |
| 02:13.49 | Ronin | !start a mta war |
| 02:13.49 | dpkg | exim is hard to configure |
| 02:13.53 | spq | :) |
| 02:14.22 | spq | !start a mta war |
| 02:14.23 | dpkg | courier systems are liable to be r00ted |
| 02:14.30 | Ronin | heh |
| 02:15.45 | spq | krono, you normally dont want to fix it since other servers should be able to send mails to your box |
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| 02:18.10 | spq | and why shouldnt the non "pop-authed" user connecting to your box be other servers? |
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| 02:22.31 | karsten | Any good way w/ rsync to specify on the pull-end of a connection a list of remote directories to archive? |
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| 02:22.53 | krono | spq u there |
| 02:23.01 | abrotman | karsten: huh ? |
| 02:23.01 | krono | are you fimilar with qmail |
| 02:23.25 | abchirk | anyone knows how to configure gnome screensaver? |
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| 02:23.48 | karsten | abrotman: rsync usr@remote:/bin /boot /dev /etc /initrd localbackup |
| 02:24.04 | karsten | krono: Sufficiently to use something better. |
| 02:24.29 | kgoetz | karsten: it supports --iinlude and --exclude dirs |
| 02:24.31 | krono | but are you fimialr with it |
| 02:24.34 | krono | karsten |
| 02:24.34 | kgoetz | and file lists |
| 02:24.42 | karsten | kgoetz: Point, thanks. |
| 02:24.47 | Jester45 | is there a list of what packages are installed with the expertgui options of mail server web server and file server |
| 02:24.47 | kgoetz | abchirk: you probably dont ;) |
| 02:24.55 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:24.59 | abchirk | Why not? |
| 02:25.00 | abrotman | abchirk: it has a tool |
| 02:25.06 | karsten | krono: For your interests, no. |
| 02:25.11 | kgoetz | abchirk: its a gnome app :) |
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| 02:25.26 | karsten | Jester45: /msg dpkg tasksel |
| 02:25.30 | kgoetz | Jester45: the install cdprobably has the seed filse |
| 02:25.41 | abchirk | Yeah but I looked in menues from Gnome... but found nothin |
| 02:25.51 | Terminus | Jester45: use tasksel to find out |
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| 02:25.59 | Terminus | oh... got beaten to it. |
| 02:26.31 | kgoetz | abchirk: Desktop _> preferences _. screensaver |
| 02:26.55 | karsten | Terminus: ... with a peacock feather. |
| 02:28.22 | Azar | night, miss karsten |
| 02:28.47 | kgoetz | later mate |
| 02:29.36 | Terminus | karsten: tickles. :) |
| 02:29.43 | Terminus | karsten: good night. |
| 02:30.50 | abchirk | ok thx kgoetz |
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| 02:31.54 | kgoetz | np |
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| 02:39.44 | Azar | so ok I would like to know if xmms indeed was removed from Debian Etch or will be removed from Debian Lenny? |
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| 02:40.23 | Azar | ...that was posted somewhere back in July 2007.. ? |
| 02:42.15 | Azar | ok, is it true that this guy is a gentoo developer who posts on gmane.linux.debian.devel.general ? |
| 02:42.41 | Azar | sigh |
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| 02:45.27 | krono | hey i have a qmail server and im trying to allow outside users to use my server as a smpt |
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| 02:45.39 | krono | but i want them to have to authenicate before they send |
| 02:46.22 | krono | because right now i can send an email from the outside to my own domain without a password using my mail server as the smtp server |
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| 02:47.37 | dondelelcaro | krono: how else do you expect to receive e-mail at your own domain? |
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| 02:48.17 | krono | well lets say im on the outside of my network |
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| 02:48.28 | dondelelcaro | I mean, if that MTA shouldn't receive e-mail for that domain, then it shouldn't list that domain as local |
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| 02:48.39 | krono | and i want to allow users to use my smtp server in the mail client settings instead of there isps |
| 02:48.56 | krono | is there a way to only allow them to autheicate and not send emails without passwords |
| 02:49.19 | ozatomic^ | how can i install Java1.4 on my system |
| 02:49.28 | dondelelcaro | krono: if you set up SMTP auth, they have to authenticate for any messages not destined for that MTA |
| 02:49.41 | ozatomic^ | i got a program which is searching for a JVM adn it says it wants version 1.4.2 |
| 02:49.43 | krono | b.c right now someone can create an acccount in outlook and set the smtp server to my domain name and spam the hell out of my domain without a password |
| 02:49.58 | dondelelcaro | krono: they could do that anyway |
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| 02:50.08 | dondelelcaro | krono: unless you don't actually plan on allowing anyone to send you mail |
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| 02:50.37 | daveinthesky | krono: that's a fundamental problem w/ email, not your setup |
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| 02:51.20 | krono | then how did like gmail for instance now allow a email to be sent out to there domains |
| 02:51.26 | krono | you get an starttls error |
| 02:51.40 | dondelelcaro | krono: uh... anyone can send mail to gmail directly by using their MX servers |
| 02:51.51 | dondelelcaro | krono: the machines they use to relay don't receive mail for any domain. |
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| 02:53.51 | krono | but for instance |
| 02:54.43 | krono | lets say i have someone the works for me and he sets up his outlook with the mail servers to be mail.mydomain.com for both imap or pop and smtp |
| 02:54.57 | krono | he is able to send out emails like crazy without a password to my local domain |
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| 02:55.08 | krono | but not outside domains like gmail |
| 02:55.19 | dondelelcaro | krono: yeah, so? that's normal. |
| 02:55.28 | dondelelcaro | krono: anyone could do that |
| 02:55.28 | krono | b/c he gets the error 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) |
| 02:55.35 | Jester45 | anyone know how to install php5 without apache prefork? |
| 02:55.38 | krono | is there a way of securing that |
| 02:55.44 | dondelelcaro | krono: it's already secure |
| 02:55.49 | spq | krono, dont u want to get mail?! |
| 02:55.54 | krono | ya |
| 02:56.04 | spq | how should the other servers send you mail? |
| 02:56.10 | dondelelcaro | krono: this is really basic SMTP stuff; if it's not clear, you really shouldn't be running an MTA. |
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| 02:57.09 | krono | ok is there a way to only allow autheication for smtp not anything else |
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| 02:57.25 | spq | dont have any local mail domains |
| 02:57.45 | spq | but why do you want this?! |
| 02:58.12 | dondelelcaro | the only case where that's a valid configuration is where that machine is only doing outbound mail |
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| 02:58.29 | spq | but even in that case should it accept mail |
| 02:58.32 | krono | how is that normal that my domain for smtp doesnt require password in order for mail to be sent |
| 02:58.36 | spq | (postmaster@...) |
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| 02:59.07 | krono | i know in the rcpthost i have to put in my domain name |
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| 02:59.28 | spq | because you cant give every server which you want to receive mails from an account ^^ |
| 02:59.45 | krono | but for internal users i dont require them to have passwords in order for mail to be sent |
| 02:59.52 | krono | should that be changed |
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| 03:00.33 | spq | users sending mails to your local accounts are the same as servers sending mail to you |
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| 03:01.40 | krono | what if someone uses it to spam me |
| 03:01.45 | krono | what do i do in that case |
| 03:02.00 | spq | you should have spam filters |
| 03:02.06 | spq | or whitelisting |
| 03:02.11 | spq | err greylisting |
| 03:02.41 | spq | what do you do if anyone uses it to send spam from any other server to you? |
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| 03:03.16 | krono | how does google do it then |
| 03:03.57 | spq | what? |
| 03:03.57 | bullgard4 | What does the ACPI wakeup device 'AZAL' stand for? |
| 03:04.02 | krono | like if i put in the smtp server smtp.google.com and put a bogus user name and password and try to send a email to my gmail.com account i get an error |
| 03:04.47 | krono | i get plus verify user name and password for account the server repsonded 530 5.7.0 must issue a starttls command |
| 03:04.49 | spq | 1st: i dont know if smtp.google.com is the default mx of google |
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| 03:04.57 | simonrvn | you're not going to prevent spam by faking your user/pass to the MTA |
| 03:05.30 | krono | that is googles mx record |
| 03:05.51 | spq | smtp[1-4].google.com |
| 03:05.58 | spq | mis googles mx |
| 03:05.59 | spq | -m |
| 03:06.03 | krono | ? |
| 03:06.14 | spq | smtp1.google.com |
| 03:06.20 | spq | smtp2.google.com |
| 03:06.20 | spq | ... |
| 03:06.57 | spq | but smtp.google.com is an alias for smtp1 |
| 03:07.28 | spq | so next thing is, probably google only accepts unauthed mails from ip ranges not on a list of known dynamic ips |
| 03:07.30 | krono | ahh i see |
| 03:08.02 | krono | but any hacker would goto dnsstuff and get googles mx record |
| 03:08.44 | spq | you dont need to be a hacker to do this, you could also be a guy writing an mta ^^ |
| 03:08.58 | spq | thats the way email works |
| 03:09.21 | spq | you check the mx rcord, connect to one of the listed server and give it the mail |
| 03:09.47 | krono | but it denys the relay i just tryed it |
| 03:09.55 | krono | i get a bounce back |
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| 03:10.27 | spq | smtpauth/pop before smtp is only to prevent bad users from using your server as relay |
| 03:10.37 | spq | what did u try? |
| 03:10.45 | krono | ok |
| 03:11.07 | krono | i used smtp1.google.com as the smtp server i used a user name and no password i tried to send to my google account |
| 03:11.15 | krono | i got a message saying relaying denied |
| 03:12.04 | spq | as i said before probably they use lists of dnamic ip ranges |
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| 03:12.22 | spq | try it from your server via telnet |
| 03:12.23 | krono | what does that mean |
| 03:12.38 | krono | you mean telnet into google |
| 03:12.55 | spq | telnet into googles smtp server |
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| 03:13.17 | krono | i cant |
| 03:13.20 | spq | they probably have lists of ip address ranges which are normally given to dialup users |
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| 03:13.42 | spq | not my problem ^^ |
| 03:13.58 | krono | so i have smtp auth workign which alllows users to have to authicate to send to outside domains |
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| 03:32.19 | vinsci | doing a dist-upgrade to lenny from etch, dpkg complains on parse erros in /var/lib/dpkg/status. "file details field `Size' not allowed in status file". Has the format of the file changed with Lenny? |
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| 03:34.00 | Supaplex | vinsci: I'd check your status file is sane, and/or bts |
| 03:34.39 | vinsci | Supaplex, nothing in bts yet. The Size: field is used in many packages now. |
| 03:35.22 | streuner | Show us the whole error in paster bot |
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| 03:35.30 | Supaplex | http://rafb.net/paste |
| 03:35.44 | Jester45 | anyone know if lighttpd can keep compression from lan ips |
| 03:36.24 | Dopao | o.O |
| 03:36.27 | Dopao | hello? |
| 03:36.34 | streuner | !ask |
| 03:36.34 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 03:36.37 | Dopao | i need psybnc? |
| 03:36.38 | Dopao | :S |
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| 03:36.51 | Dopao | xD! |
| 03:37.05 | Dopao | alguien tiene user psyBNC? |
| 03:37.06 | Dopao | :S |
| 03:37.22 | Supaplex | !tell Dopao -about search |
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| 03:39.03 | Supaplex | !customer |
| 03:39.03 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 03:39.07 | vinsci | Supaplex, http://rafb.net/p/kFdsPB42.html |
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| 03:40.34 | simon | for some reason, portmap was running on port 111. I turned it off by running /etc/init.d/portmap stop, but how do I avoid that it starts at boot. do I remove all the symlinks /etc/rc*.d/portmap? |
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| 03:41.01 | streuner | uh, dont do that |
| 03:41.05 | msn | !tell msn -about update-rc.d |
| 03:41.14 | streuner | simon: remote box? |
| 03:41.18 | simon | streuner, yup. |
| 03:41.28 | streuner | dont touch it then |
| 03:41.30 | msn | !tell simon -about update-rc.d |
| 03:41.36 | msn | yeah |
| 03:41.38 | streuner | msn: NO |
| 03:41.42 | msn | remote box no changes |
| 03:41.47 | msn | local is good |
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| 03:42.14 | PiousMinion | I've recently come across an 'ancient' tablet pc and was hoping to use it as terminal(with X) similar to VNC, but I'd like to have sound as well. Can someone point me in the right direction? |
| 03:42.16 | streuner | simon: if you going to remove portmap it could happen that the box doesnt boot at all... |
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| 03:43.18 | simon__ | sorry, got disconnected. |
| 03:43.20 | msn | stopping portmap doesnt have that effect streuner unless ofcourse you are running a portmap dependant service like nfs or nis |
| 03:43.27 | streuner | simon: dont touch portmap |
| 03:43.40 | simon | streuner, why not? |
| 03:43.45 | msn | in which case it just hangs on boot |
| 03:43.48 | streuner | streuner> simon: if you going to remove portmap it could happen that the box doesnt boot at all... |
| 03:44.30 | msn | dependant on what other services run on it. |
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| 03:44.44 | spq | i hate it.. why does that fucking proftpd not use pam? |
| 03:45.18 | streuner | !open ports |
| 03:45.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, open ports is # netstat -plunt, or lsof -i -n, or ask me about <open files>, or fuser -n tcp <portnumber> |
| 03:45.21 | streuner | nah |
| 03:45.26 | simon | streuner, could you elaborate? I was pretty sure portmap just happened to be a dependency of something I installed carelessly. |
| 03:45.46 | streuner | why the hell you wanna remove portmap at all? |
| 03:46.01 | spq | could anyone help me finding out why proftpd does not use pam as auth method? |
| 03:46.09 | streuner | it has no effect, if other services arent running (NFS) |
| 03:46.17 | simon | streuner, I don't like to have applications running that I don't use. |
| 03:46.28 | streuner | see the line above... |
| 03:46.30 | simon | I'm not using NFS... |
| 03:46.48 | streuner | well, portmap has no effect to your system then |
| 03:47.00 | streuner | so dont touch it then |
| 03:47.03 | simon | then there is no reason to have it running :-) |
| 03:47.21 | streuner | ok, do what you want, we have warned you |
| 03:47.25 | Supaplex | simon: did you attempt to uninstall it? |
| 03:47.31 | simon | Supaplex, nope. |
| 03:47.44 | msn | just shut it off if you are sure |
| 03:47.47 | msn | dont remove it |
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| 03:48.12 | simon | I'm not really sure what DARPA to RPC is all about, and I'm fairly certain none of my other programs depend on it. |
| 03:48.15 | Supaplex | famd needs it, but can cope w/o it. don't expect any good results from famd w/o it :) |
| 03:48.22 | streuner | if he have any service which need that, the box (remote) doesnt boot at all |
| 03:48.36 | simon | Supaplex, ah. famd. |
| 03:48.57 | msn | simon: if you are certain that you dont have any other applications /daemons needing portmap then you can shut it off |
| 03:49.08 | msn | as Supaplex said do check for famd |
| 03:49.09 | Supaplex | I've never seen a box w/o portmap fail to boot, unless it needs nfs etc - but that's just my background. |
| 03:49.19 | msn | ditto |
| 03:49.20 | simon | *shrug* |
| 03:49.31 | vinsci | Supaplex, the installed dpkg is currently version 1.14.6 (up-to-date for Lenny), with Sid having 1.14.7, but on the other hand the changelog doesn't mention any change like this: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.14.7/changelog |
| 03:49.34 | msn | nfs/or nis without portmap are gone |
| 03:49.34 | simon | thank you for your inputs, msn and streuner, but I don't think the box will explode. |
| 03:49.47 | msn | just disablt it |
| 03:49.52 | msn | so next boot wont start it |
| 03:50.05 | msn | having the binaries wont hurt if its not running |
| 03:50.13 | simon | yadda. thanks. |
| 03:50.13 | streuner | simon: nah, the box doesnt explode, but its expensive on a remote server to fix that then... |
| 03:50.15 | msn | and you can always start if you need at later stage |
| 03:50.32 | simon | streuner, depends on how remote it is, and how much my time is worth. |
| 03:50.55 | msn | just check for services using rpc |
| 03:51.05 | msn | if there is none running you can safely stop it |
| 03:51.10 | streuner | sure, if you able to have access easily its fine then |
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| 03:51.17 | msn | use the tool i told you |
| 03:51.40 | msn | that removes the symlinks without much headache and/or effort |
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| 04:00.26 | PiousMinion | ltsp.org says that debian Etch has LTSP-5, but 'apt-cache show ltsp-server' says it has 0.99 wtf? |
| 04:00.51 | indraveni | hi all |
| 04:00.59 | indraveni | i have my sony DSC-W35 digital camera |
| 04:01.09 | indraveni | how can i make it detected by debian |
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| 04:02.43 | Supaplex | !hcl |
| 04:02.43 | dpkg | methinks hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, or http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/, or http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ |
| 04:03.02 | Supaplex | indraveni: ^^^^^ poke around there, hopefully it's supported. |
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| 04:06.24 | streuner | indraveni: you going to use gphoto, if the camera doesnt support usb storage |
| 04:07.01 | Supaplex | does gphoto support remote shooting? |
| 04:09.18 | indraveni | Supaplex, i installed gphoto2 as i was not having drivers for this camera and after instalaltion of gphoto2, gave me the drivers |
| 04:09.26 | indraveni | Supaplex, other than this i knwo nothihg about gphoto |
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| 04:10.31 | mick_home | hi everyone |
| 04:11.28 | streuner | !seen everyone |
| 04:11.28 | dpkg | everyone <~ten@88-96-94-193.dsl.zen.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 80d 16h 30m 45s ago, saying: 'Hello Max'. |
| 04:12.06 | mick_home | has anyone been able to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to configure multiple monitors? |
| 04:12.12 | mick_home | err, video cards |
| 04:12.20 | mick_home | !seen anyone |
| 04:12.21 | dpkg | anyone <~ram@p54A666F5.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 84d 10h 5m 1s ago, saying: 'no'. |
| 04:12.37 | mick_home | beat you too it streuner :-P |
| 04:12.45 | streuner | just disable the other videocard in BIOS |
| 04:12.48 | mick_home | to* |
| 04:13.12 | mick_home | ah ok - i guess you can only do one at a time |
| 04:13.44 | msn | mick_home: you cant do that with dpk-reconfigure |
| 04:13.49 | msn | but you can do it manually |
| 04:13.50 | PiousMinion | mick_home: I configure one and save, then do the other, then manually merge them. heh |
| 04:14.01 | mick_home | heh |
| 04:14.05 | msn | you have to configure the 2 in X config in devices |
| 04:14.22 | msn | if you google you will find detail configs on how to do it |
| 04:14.27 | msn | shouldnt take long |
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| 04:14.40 | mick_home | well googling w/o X isn't fun :-P |
| 04:14.54 | msn | lynx works great |
| 04:14.54 | PiousMinion | mick_home: Can't just set up one for now? |
| 04:15.10 | mick_home | it didn't work for me |
| 04:15.13 | msn | lynx/links will get you to the config |
| 04:15.18 | stray | X -configure will give you a working xorg.conf with two mons (/root/xorg.config.new) |
| 04:15.28 | streuner | nah |
| 04:15.32 | mick_home | msn: i know how to use links/w3m - i just hate it |
| 04:15.37 | streuner | dont use "X -configure" |
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| 04:15.44 | msn | :P i love it |
| 04:15.47 | msn | anyway |
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| 04:15.57 | msn | diconnect one of them configure X |
| 04:16.01 | streuner | its outdated and nobody should use that in Debian |
| 04:16.13 | coldsteal | is there a waht to baclup the stuff in apt-key ? |
| 04:16.23 | msn | find a X config with 2 monitors configure and done |
| 04:16.29 | coldsteal | *way |
| 04:16.39 | msn | you wont even need to configure single monitor |
| 04:16.54 | stray | <shrug> didn't know the 'linux way' was discouraged in 'debian' ... |
| 04:17.03 | streuner | easy solution, disable the onboard chip in BIOS and just configure the other via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:17.24 | msn | lol |
| 04:17.34 | msn | there is nothing better than lynx/links |
| 04:17.37 | vinsci | Supaplex, I just noticed that in Etch, no package has a "Size:" field in /var/lib/dpkg/status, so apparently this is a problem occurring when dist-upgrading |
| 04:17.56 | msn | if everyone still used them so much bandwidth would be saved on the internet |
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| 04:19.15 | streuner | if everyone used them, nobody are able to see pr0n ;-) |
| 04:19.15 | msn | and probably a lot of graphics/web designers would be out of thier jobs |
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| 04:19.15 | abchirk | mh I have a strange problem, I cannot select my scan device printing is working, but if I use Kooka and want to select the device, I cannot. When I try xsane it ends after the message "scanning for devices" and hint? |
| 04:19.15 | emss | how do you download a deb source with aptitude? |
| 04:19.15 | msn | abchirk: does your device show in dmesg |
| 04:19.15 | streuner | emss: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 04:19.24 | streuner | emss: dunno about aptitude, but apt works well ;-) |
| 04:19.28 | msn | what does pci scanning give you |
| 04:19.45 | msn | apt-get source <pkg> |
| 04:19.55 | msn | should do the trick |
| 04:20.08 | emss | yes, but I thought aptitude has replace apt-get |
| 04:20.19 | streuner | no |
| 04:20.29 | bullgard4 | What does the ACPI wakeup device 'AZAL' stand for? |
| 04:20.32 | mick_home | well let me try rebooting and changing the bios |
| 04:20.35 | mick_home | brb |
| 04:20.48 | streuner | some people think, aptitude do magic, but apt/dpkg was fine for me every time |
| 04:21.15 | abchirk | msn no... but printer is working and its the same HP :P |
| 04:21.43 | msn | USB device? |
| 04:21.58 | msn | check dmesg what does dmesg say about the device |
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| 04:22.05 | gonzaloaf | something better than sound converter? |
| 04:22.37 | streuner | rip it from the orginal CD? |
| 04:23.11 | abchirk | msn nothing...there is only something from pppoe :S |
| 04:23.29 | gonzaloaf | streuner, I have many mp3 in 320kbps and I want to convert them to 128kbps o 160kbps, I have tried lame but the output files doesnt keep the id3 tag |
| 04:23.50 | msn | gonzaloaf: why would you want to dtop the bitrate |
| 04:23.53 | streuner | buy another HD, HDs are cheap nowadays |
| 04:24.02 | gonzaloaf | msn, to save space disk |
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| 04:24.35 | msn | hmmm well if you are scrambling for disk space by converting mp3s you need a new Hd |
| 04:24.39 | msn | HD |
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| 04:24.54 | msn | 320-160 will only reduce it to half the size |
| 04:24.58 | msn | few MBs |
| 04:25.07 | gonzaloaf | :( ok lets forget about the hard disk, someday I will buy one more, another clue? |
| 04:25.30 | msn | if your disk is choking you need to check your cache/email/pr0n/videos first |
| 04:25.31 | gonzaloaf | msn, I have about 150G in mp3 |
| 04:25.40 | PiousMinion | msn: 50bg of mp3s become 25gb. half of many is a lot. |
| 04:25.43 | msn | move them to DVDs |
| 04:26.03 | gonzaloaf | msn, I want to have them here, ready to go |
| 04:26.06 | msn | yeah PiousMinion but that would take a week |
| 04:26.14 | msn | or more to reencode |
| 04:26.22 | msn | drop quality which cant be restored |
| 04:26.26 | PiousMinion | msn: He said space limits, not time limits. :p |
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| 04:26.56 | msn | gonzaloaf: do a search you would be able to find something called as mp3encode |
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| 04:27.08 | msn | i wont guarantee it but that's your best bet |
| 04:27.14 | \amethyst | hmm... I had thought you could drop MP3 bitrate without doing any real computation. Or is that vorbis I'm thinking of? |
| 04:27.18 | msn | its a little outdated |
| 04:27.18 | gonzaloaf | any other clue? |
| 04:27.30 | msn | mp3encode |
| 04:27.44 | msn | or use mp32ogg and reduce bitrate |
| 04:27.54 | msn | later using ogg reencoding |
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| 04:28.57 | msn | lame/mp3encode/mp32ogg one of these should fit it |
| 04:29.27 | gonzaloaf | msn, lame is the best one, but for some reason doesnt keep the id3 tag for the outputs |
| 04:29.31 | rmaj | isnt lame lame? |
| 04:29.51 | gonzaloaf | msn, try it |
| 04:30.08 | msn | right a script gonzaloaf reencode using lame and read the old tags using id3tag and retag the new one |
| 04:30.54 | gonzaloaf | msn, it sounds interesting |
| 04:31.07 | gonzaloaf | this* |
| 04:31.35 | msn | and you can start it on your 150GB collection and forget it for about 2 weeks and let it encode non stop |
| 04:31.46 | msn | you will get some nice space out |
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| 04:32.03 | gonzaloaf | msn, yes |
| 04:32.07 | msn | and you can add a command to remove the old mp3 in the same script |
| 04:32.23 | msn | so you wont run out of space while encoding |
| 04:32.56 | msn | i had recommecd you move the higher quality stuff to DVDs first empty out space and then encode only what ou need |
| 04:33.05 | msn | that wuold give you some nice space liberty |
| 04:33.40 | gonzaloaf | msn, ok but is more comfortable to have all mp3 here |
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| 04:34.20 | msn | well I have only 30GB and i end up listening to the same mp3s again and again |
| 04:34.42 | msn | i dont thonk you would ever listen to all of them at the same time |
| 04:34.43 | msn | :P |
| 04:34.53 | msn | s;/thonk/think |
| 04:35.11 | Wyzard | \amethyst: Vorbis theoretically supports bitrate stripping (reducing bitrate without re-encoding), but from what I've read, there's no actual implementation that works well |
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| 04:36.59 | indraveni | hi again |
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| 04:37.23 | indraveni | i have connected sony camera to my system,. but lspci doesn't show me the camera details in it |
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| 04:37.26 | indraveni | why is it so ? |
| 04:37.39 | msn | dmesg? |
| 04:37.45 | msn | what does dmesg say |
| 04:37.51 | indraveni | nothing in dmesg also |
| 04:38.04 | gonzaloaf | msn, depends on my mood |
| 04:38.21 | indraveni | in lsusb i am able to see the the camera |
| 04:38.28 | indraveni | but not in lspci , why ? |
| 04:38.40 | streuner | PCI isnt USB? |
| 04:38.43 | msn | lol |
| 04:38.48 | tenzind | hi.. I have installed debian etch om my machine. It is working fine except that everytime i restart the machine, i have to do alsaconf to enable sound as the sound system seems to be disabled.... what should i do so that the sound remains enabled whenever i restart my machine? |
| 04:38.52 | msn | PCI!=USB |
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| 04:39.42 | msn | tenzind: you tried using /etc/init.d/alsa start? |
| 04:39.43 | indraveni | msn, then i can assume that my camera is detected by my system as lsusb is showing my camera ? |
| 04:39.53 | msn | indraveni: yup |
| 04:39.53 | streuner | yes |
| 04:40.11 | msn | just fire up your iimage app and let it pick up the images |
| 04:40.14 | streuner | try to use usb storage |
| 04:40.20 | indraveni | but i am not seeing it ounted in my system |
| 04:40.22 | streuner | !usb storage |
| 04:40.22 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. ask me about <automount> |
| 04:40.46 | streuner | maybe the camera support usb storage, it would be easy then |
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| 04:41.10 | indraveni | hwo to load those modules ? insmod ? |
| 04:41.17 | streuner | modprobe |
| 04:41.18 | tenzind | msn: even after doing /etc/init.d/alsa reload it doesnt work .. works only after i do a alsaconf |
| 04:41.47 | msn | indraveni: lsmod/modprobe/insmod |
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| 04:42.00 | daveinthesky | tenzind: add your snd-foo driver to /etc/modules ? look here to see the available drivers: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main |
| 04:42.03 | indraveni | msn, its saying module sd_mod not found |
| 04:42.16 | msn | tenzind: does alsaconf throw any error |
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| 04:42.40 | tenzind | msn: no .. it doesnt ... alsaconf runs succcessfully |
| 04:42.41 | msn | indraveni: did you try googling a lil first? |
| 04:42.50 | indraveni | msn, yes |
| 04:43.02 | indraveni | i found forums with other models of siny but not with this model |
| 04:43.08 | daveinthesky | tenzind: for example, if you have an onboard intel card that would be "snd-intel8x0" |
| 04:43.30 | msn | indraveni: you need to know which module to load |
| 04:43.34 | msn | sd_mod is for storage |
| 04:43.34 | bullgard4 | What does the ACPI wakeup device 'AZAL' stand for? |
| 04:43.49 | daveinthesky | tenzind: you can figure out which to load by doing "lsmod | grep snd" after alsaconf fixes it for you |
| 04:44.05 | tenzind | daveinthesky: ok .. i will try that |
| 04:45.09 | Wyzard | Bulldog: As a guess, Azalia (Intel HD Audio) |
| 04:46.28 | tenzind | daveinthesky: "lsmod | grep snd" after doing alsaconf lists like 10 snd_* lines ... should i add all of these to /etc/modules? |
| 04:46.32 | msn | indraveni: until you figure which mod to load it wont work, the mod will come up on some forum |
| 04:46.35 | daveinthesky | no |
| 04:46.48 | msn | tenzind: they should be one on top of other |
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| 04:47.02 | indraveni | msn, ok i am seraching for it |
| 04:47.09 | daveinthesky | tenzind: there's just one that you probably care about. it might be the first one |
| 04:47.25 | daveinthesky | tenzind: it'll also be listed on that alsa url i sent you |
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| 04:48.36 | tenzind | daveinthesky: i have pasted the output of lsmod here .. http://pastebin.ca/739448 could you please have a look |
| 04:49.07 | daveinthesky | tenzind: snd-hda-intel |
| 04:49.20 | daveinthesky | tenzind: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel |
| 04:50.21 | daveinthesky | tenzind: all you care about is probably the ".asoundrc" section |
| 04:51.13 | tenzind | daveinthesky: ok .. and thanks for the help |
| 04:51.20 | tenzind | msn: thanks |
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| 04:53.52 | indraveni | msn, i installed usb-storage and sd_mod modules, |
| 04:54.11 | indraveni | msn, now modprobe on those modules works fine and my dmesg shows the usb mass storage |
| 04:54.27 | abchirk | http://phpfi.com/269448 msn thats from dmesg and when I run hpoj setup he tell me that he found a device but cannot communicate with it |
| 04:54.35 | indraveni | msn, but still throught my gtkam I am not able to see the camera dtected |
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| 04:57.54 | msn | indraveni: that's as far as i could say anything i havent used any cams as such to give you any app specific pointers |
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| 05:01.05 | vinsci | what package should dist-upgrade bugs be reported against? |
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| 05:03.52 | Wyzard | vinsci: The package that failed to upgrade |
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| 05:05.08 | vinsci | Wyzard, mmm, doesn't make sense this time, I think, as that error occurs in hundreds of packages (using field Size: in (/var/lib/dpkg/status) |
| 05:05.49 | vinsci | hmm, six packages, actually :) |
| 05:05.52 | Wyzard | Oh, that size thing would be a bug in apt itself |
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| 05:09.31 | vinsci | only the packages libgnome-media0, netcat, lsof, liblockfile1, libxau6 and libldap-2.3-0 are using this Size: -field that dpkg complains about, but it's enoough to stop apt-get dist-upgrade from etch to lenny. |
| 05:09.38 | utopia_ | does anyone know where iceweasal stores its cookies/ |
| 05:09.39 | utopia_ | *? |
| 05:10.32 | zoredache | utopia_: in the cookies.txt file? |
| 05:10.49 | vinsci | utopia_, ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/cookies.txt |
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| 05:11.39 | initself_ | I'm finding my ssh to be very very slow on Debian. |
| 05:11.39 | utopia_ | thanks :) |
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| 05:12.00 | initself_ | On Windows XP over putty, lightning fast, to the same machine. |
| 05:12.01 | msn | initself_: what's slow? |
| 05:12.05 | initself_ | How can I troubleshoot? |
| 05:12.08 | initself_ | msn: the typing response. |
| 05:12.13 | initself_ | msn: and the login. |
| 05:12.20 | initself_ | msn: it almost feels like latency. |
| 05:12.22 | \amethyst | initself_: what is the server? |
| 05:12.29 | initself_ | \amethyst: home server |
| 05:12.35 | initself_ | so im on the lan. |
| 05:12.42 | \amethyst | Also debian? |
| 05:12.45 | initself_ | no Slackware |
| 05:13.06 | initself_ | But from my Debian build, slow as molasses. |
| 05:14.32 | \amethyst | initself_: And it's not just connecting that's slow, it remains slow? |
| 05:14.43 | initself_ | a |
| 05:14.46 | initself_ | \amethyst: yes, sir. |
| 05:15.01 | initself_ | but the connection im talking to you on, perfect. |
| 05:15.08 | initself_ | putty over ssh from Windows XP |
| 05:16.19 | \amethyst | initself_: anything interesting appear when you ssh -vvv from the Debian box? |
| 05:16.36 | vinsci | inimesekene, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/slow-ssh-response-167873/ |
| 05:16.44 | vinsci | sorry inimesekene |
| 05:16.56 | vinsci | initself_, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/slow-ssh-response-167873/ |
| 05:17.02 | initself_ | \amethyst: some help suff |
| 05:17.07 | initself_ | vinsci: wow, you are in there too? |
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| 05:17.39 | vinsci | initself_, not often |
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| 05:18.27 | vinsci | initself_, that post boils down to a bad switch port (ie. hardware problem) |
| 05:18.52 | initself_ | Looks like I'll have to try that. |
| 05:19.41 | initself_ | vinsci++ # god bless you |
| 05:19.45 | initself_ | that was it. |
| 05:19.52 | initself_ | brand new switch too. |
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| 05:20.11 | vinsci | initself_, ah, interesting. cheers. |
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| 05:26.09 | piper69 | hi guys, just a very basic question, when i sudo from a normal user it ask me for the password, i provide root password but it doesn't work, or am i doing something wrong |
| 05:26.27 | eps | what is the easy way to setup a user to only have 10meg disc quota? google is now filled with useless how to's for doing it under MS AD :/ |
| 05:26.38 | eps | piper69, you need to use your password for sudo |
| 05:26.44 | eps | sudo = your password |
| 05:26.48 | eps | su = the system admins password |
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| 05:27.31 | piper69 | eps: i forgot it then |
| 05:28.23 | eps | you don't know what password you logged in with? >.< |
| 05:28.58 | piper69 | i am confused, i am logged in as a normal user thu |
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| 05:29.59 | piper69 | !pkg sudo |
| 05:30.07 | piper69 | !dpkg sudo |
| 05:30.09 | Wyzard | piper69: The password for your normal user is the one to use with sudo |
| 05:30.47 | initself_ | why doe sthe broken filter appear not to do anything? |
| 05:30.52 | piper69 | !sudo |
| 05:30.52 | dpkg | well, sudo is (SUperuser DO) better than su, according to talon. It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html, or you need to setup /etc/sudoers first before you can use it (ask about <visudo>) |
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| 05:31.25 | eps | !quota |
| 05:31.26 | dpkg | [quota] a Debian package for managing disk space quotas. It can be made to cap space usage by certain uids or gids; see /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Quota.gz (in the "doc-linux-nonfree-text" package) for a (slightly out-of-date) introduction. |
| 05:32.02 | piper69 | !visudo |
| 05:32.02 | dpkg | visudo is probably how you add users to your /etc/sudoers file. 'man visudo' for details, and also ask me about <sudoers> |
| 05:32.32 | piper69 | !sudoers |
| 05:32.32 | dpkg | somebody said sudoers was To give your user the ability to run arbitrary commands as root with sudo, add a line like this to /etc/sudoers: 'user ALL=(ALL) ALL' (no quotes, replacing user with your username). |
| 05:32.44 | eps | I cannot believe there isn't a simple way to enable user quotas under linux :/ |
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| 05:34.27 | \amethyst | eps: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/47 |
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| 05:36.34 | initself_ | i just tried upgrading aptitude, it bombed and now i have no more package manager. |
| 05:36.38 | initself_ | what do I do now? |
| 05:36.51 | eps | \amethyst, thanks mate :) |
| 05:37.00 | Wyzard | initself_: Fix the "it bombed" part, and then "dpkg --configure aptitude" |
| 05:37.00 | eps | use apt-get to fix it |
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| 05:37.02 | initself_ | apt-get -f install keeps giving me failed in bugger_write |
| 05:37.20 | eps | ^^ what Wyzard said then |
| 05:37.25 | eps | testing or unstable? |
| 05:37.33 | Wyzard | initself_: dpkg is the real package manager; apt-get and aptitude are just convenient frontends that do dependency resolution and download .deb files for you |
| 05:38.02 | initself_ | dpkg tells me that aptitude is already installed and configured. |
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| 05:38.28 | Wyzard | Then the problem may be in some other package, like a library or something |
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| 05:38.41 | Wyzard | Or maybe the new aptitude package is properly installed, but just buggy |
| 05:38.56 | Wyzard | What exactly do you mean by "it bombed" when upgrading? |
| 05:38.57 | initself_ | so much for clicking on that nice orange flashing thing in the upper right. :) |
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| 05:39.37 | initself_ | i was upgrading a ton of packages at once and then when it got to what appeared to be apt, it said 'failed in buffer_write(fd)' |
| 05:39.37 | Wyzard | and what version of aptitude do you have installed? |
| 05:39.55 | Wyzard | hmm, that could be a full hard drive |
| 05:39.59 | Wyzard | df -h |
| 05:40.01 | initself_ | apt 0.7.6 |
| 05:40.01 | apt | 0.7 |
| 05:40.10 | yigal | aptitude is consider an "important" package by apt :) |
| 05:40.19 | initself_ | ah /usr/ is full. |
| 05:40.45 | Wyzard | Free up some space and then "dpkg --configure --pending" and hopefully that'll fix things |
| 05:40.51 | yigal | initself_: happened to me today, I had to clear out /usr/src |
| 05:41.08 | yigal | building too many packages from source |
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| 05:41.49 | initself_ | Thanks guys. |
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| 05:42.04 | initself_ | But I'm still missing my Synaptic Package Manager link in my Gnome. |
| 05:42.22 | Wyzard | Once aptitude works again, use it to finish your upgrade |
| 05:42.54 | initself_ | Wyzard: not sure how. new to Debian. apt-get install x? |
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| 05:43.09 | Wyzard | Just run the upgrade again, like you did before |
| 05:43.49 | initself_ | there she does |
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| 05:43.57 | initself_ | apt-get also gives a nice help file |
| 05:44.28 | initself_ | debian is so impressive |
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| 05:44.40 | solar_ant | hi all |
| 05:44.52 | solar_ant | can anyone tell me what is the systems default tmp folder for apahce |
| 05:45.09 | solar_ant | i believe it is /tmp , just wanted to confirm |
| 05:45.12 | initself_ | solar_ant: is it not /tmp? |
| 05:45.37 | Wyzard | I'd be surprised if it was anything other than /tmp |
| 05:45.44 | Wyzard | I don't recall apache even having a configuration setting for that |
| 05:46.32 | piper69 | Wyzard: |
| 05:46.48 | solar_ant | initself_: am not sure , it was not working that way for php , i manually set that option to /tmp , but when i use a move_uploaded_file option permissions change to for the file to something else , possibly because /tmp is owned by root and apache is run as some other user , so just wanted to confirm if there was any other tmp foolder |
| 05:46.49 | solar_ant | thanks ! |
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| 05:48.04 | piper69 | Wyzard: in visudo if i want to use password everytime user ALL = mypassword:ALL |
| 05:48.37 | Wyzard | piper69: I don't use sudo, and don't know much about the details of how to configure it, sorry |
| 05:49.07 | piper69 | guys in visudo if i want to use password everytime user ALL = mypassword:ALL |
| 05:49.22 | piper69 | Wyzard: sorry to bug you |
| 05:49.31 | Wyzard | np |
| 05:49.37 | piper69 | :) |
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| 06:00.53 | tenzind | hi .. what does the package esound do and how imprtant is it for linux desktop usage? |
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| 06:02.36 | Guerin | tenzind: it makes gnome desktop sounds go, and fucks up any ther audio thing |
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| 06:03.33 | tenzind | Guerin: yeah .. looks like it .. i found out that my audio players work as soon as i kill esd |
| 06:04.10 | tenzind | Guerin: can i just apt-get remove esound?? |
| 06:04.15 | dondelelcaro | in general, yes. |
| 06:04.20 | Guerin | tenzind: absolutley. |
| 06:04.39 | Guerin | (it might try to uninstall much of gnome, but you can reqinstall the bits you want) |
| 06:05.39 | tenzind | Guerin: ok .. thanks .. |
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| 06:17.46 | anom01y | hmm how do I fix broken dependencies with apt ? |
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| 06:24.24 | Azar | anom01y: use aptitude instead of apt-get, it will offer to remove offending packages and will install the good ones |
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| 06:45.20 | Azar | haha http://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200710/error'd/IMG_1637.JPG |
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| 06:45.49 | maltz | Yo, in debian linux can a user without root install programs in there home directory without admin rights? Like for example, can they install limewire in there home directory |
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| 06:46.23 | kgoetz | in theory yes |
| 06:46.24 | fengor | maltz: short answer: yes |
| 06:47.19 | maltz | I am getting tired of them getting viruses and I was going to install w/e they needed and they basically just web browse |
| 06:47.29 | maltz | and there all the time getting viruses on windows |
| 06:47.56 | Azar | maltz: that why is recommended to sit on usermode at all times |
| 06:47.59 | maltz | They go on them free porn sites bad and install all kinds of activex stuff and all that, random exe files |
| 06:48.35 | kgoetz | heh. safe from that on debian |
| 06:48.51 | maltz | you think they could use it? |
| 06:48.55 | maltz | they can't even use windows |
| 06:48.57 | maltz | :( |
| 06:49.12 | Azar | they who? |
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| 06:49.24 | fengor | using it is simple when its proper set up. its the proper setup that is hard |
| 06:49.24 | kgoetz | depends if your protecting them from themselfes |
| 06:49.34 | maltz | my friend got a used PC up the road |
| 06:49.44 | fengor | which is why most people shy away from linux in my experience |
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| 06:52.31 | solemnwarning | Is there some reason a tarball of a machine would be smaller then df claims the disk has used? |
| 06:53.53 | solemnwarning | Does tar have some primative form of compression? Is tar more efficient then ext3 at indexing files? |
| 06:54.01 | \amethyst | solemnwarning: because the tarball doesn't have to waste a whole block for small files |
| 06:54.26 | solemnwarning | So a 108MiB tar for a ~140MiB filesystem is normal? |
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| 06:55.16 | \amethyst | if you have tens of thousands of small files, it sounds reasonable |
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| 06:55.27 | solemnwarning | It's /var |
| 06:55.31 | \amethyst | it's also possible that there is a deleted file that's taking up space |
| 06:55.37 | \amethyst | but that tar doesn't see |
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| 06:56.18 | solemnwarning | According to ark many files in /tar are <1K |
| 06:56.37 | solemnwarning | s//tar//var |
| 06:56.40 | aspWork | hi guys, i am about to install debian on a intel ich9r raid 1 share with windows, what are my options? is dmraid the way to go or? |
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| 06:57.28 | Azar | heh the Debian section on osnews has been renamed: Debian and its clones |
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| 06:58.05 | alaya__ | i burned out on osnews a while ago. it was obvious they would do anything to push buttons to create stories |
| 06:58.20 | dacs | guys, i have a debian box setup as a server, i want to map a network drive to my windows box,so that i can put my mp3's and listen to them can someone please help me |
| 06:58.42 | Azar | not to worry: the last Debian story there is from 08/18/07 announcing the release of Etch.. |
| 06:58.46 | Azar | :) |
| 06:58.49 | alaya__ | dacs: install samba, edit /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 06:58.56 | civillian | dacs: lol. so you have the music on the doze box or the linux one? |
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| 06:59.10 | dacs | alaya__: well i did that and i can't get access at all |
| 06:59.25 | aspWork | dacs: you need to have a look at your security settings |
| 06:59.27 | RvGaTe^work | dacs, have you added users to your samba ? |
| 06:59.31 | dacs | civillian: on the windows box |
| 06:59.36 | civillian | dacs: thought so |
| 06:59.39 | alaya__ | dacs: then you need to read the docs and edit the conf file better ;-) |
| 06:59.43 | dacs | RvGaTe^work: yes sir |
| 06:59.44 | civillian | dacs: you need to edit fstab |
| 06:59.50 | civillian | in /etc |
| 06:59.56 | civillian | and add the appropriate fstab line |
| 06:59.59 | dacs | alaya__: i did read the docs |
| 07:00.09 | civillian | google fstab smbfs |
| 07:00.14 | alaya__ | dacs: what do you mean by "can't get access"? |
| 07:00.17 | dacs | civillian: will do |
| 07:00.39 | alaya__ | civillian: what the fuck does fstab have to do with a share setup in samba? could you explain? |
| 07:00.48 | dacs | alaya__: here i will show you |
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| 07:01.20 | civillian | alaya__: whats with the attitude |
| 07:01.32 | alaya__ | civillian: what's with the inept advice? |
| 07:01.38 | dacs | alaya__: smbclient -L //192.168.1.104 -U tito |
| 07:01.50 | civillian | alaya__: the mp3s are on the windows box, not the linux one |
| 07:01.59 | alaya__ | oh sorry |
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| 07:02.19 | dacs | alaya__: i get this error "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" |
| 07:02.28 | alaya__ | " i have a debian box setup as a server, i want to map a network drive to my windows box" |
| 07:02.28 | civillian | authentication |
| 07:02.37 | civillian | _to_ |
| 07:02.39 | alaya__ | so i give up at this point... |
| 07:02.47 | civillian | not _on_ |
| 07:03.39 | alaya__ | a) debian box mentioned as server b) mapping network drive on windows |
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| 07:04.10 | alaya__ | windoze terminology brain rot |
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| 07:05.02 | alaya__ | civillian is right then. fstab and smbfs |
| 07:05.38 | alaya__ | you can also use fish:// url in file managers |
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| 07:06.28 | civillian | dacs: here is a line from my fstab |
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| 07:06.52 | civillian | /omega/dump /home/nickn/omegadump smbfs rw,noauto,uid=1000,username=guest,password= 0 0 |
| 07:06.59 | dacs | civillian: in the window box, if i put the ip of my debian box it will resolve it to my debian servername |
| 07:07.09 | dacs | and thats whats driving me crazy |
| 07:07.43 | dacs | civillian: wow this is way aboe my head :) |
| 07:07.52 | civillian | dacs: where are you typing the IP? in run? |
| 07:07.57 | civillian | or IE? |
| 07:08.30 | dacs | civillian: run "\\192.168.1.104\ |
| 07:08.55 | civillian | dacs: yep thats your samba server. windows likes to resolve like that |
| 07:09.20 | civillian | dacs: but you wanna do it the other way round, yeh? play the mp3s through speakers on your linux box, but data coming from windows? |
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| 07:10.05 | dacs | civillian: that too, listen can i pm you |
| 07:10.26 | civillian | dacs: if you like, but i'm about to finish work :) |
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| 07:12.01 | aspWork | so, any ideas on ich9r raid 1 and debian, sharing disks with windows (ie, softraid is not an option), go dmraid? |
| 07:12.21 | dacs | civillian: so you think i should use fstab |
| 07:12.57 | dacs | !fstab |
| 07:12.57 | dpkg | fstab is, like, a file that lets the `mount' command know what mountable things (partitions, drives, etc) are in your system. Try `man 5 fstab` for more information on it. |
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| 07:13.46 | civillian | dacs: sorry i cant pm without registering :( |
| 07:13.59 | anna_T | hi there how can i unistall my Shared Folder?do i have to unistall NFS and SMB? |
| 07:14.16 | dacs | civillian: i figuer so |
| 07:14.23 | civillian | if you wanna share files from linux to, use samba and setup /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 07:14.45 | civillian | if you wanna share files from windows, setup the share first then use smbclient on linux to test authentication. then when it's all working, create a line in /etc/fstab like the one i showed you but changed obviously |
| 07:15.01 | civillian | linux to windows on that first point |
| 07:15.11 | basanta | is webserver a requirement for squid-caching ? |
| 07:15.19 | civillian | in a word, no |
| 07:15.23 | msn | no |
| 07:15.31 | civillian | later people :() |
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| 07:15.55 | dacs | civillian: ok, debian box is my server, i have a small drive in that box, how ever my windoz has a large drive and i want to map it |
| 07:16.09 | msn | dacs: he is gone |
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| 07:17.56 | dacs | msn: thanks :) |
| 07:18.36 | anna_T | I already have it installed,but i don't want to use it anymore |
| 07:18.45 | anna_T | so i want to unistall it? |
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| 07:22.04 | sawblade5 | Ping me |
| 07:22.21 | anna_T | hi sawblade5 |
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| 07:22.35 | kgoetz | lol. rightoh |
| 07:23.00 | aspWork | anna_T: what are you using to share the folder? |
| 07:23.30 | anna_T | i think samba |
| 07:23.37 | anna_T | i am not sure |
| 07:23.44 | Guerin | !think |
| 07:23.44 | dpkg | Don't think. KNOW. |
| 07:23.54 | anna_T | sorry asperon,i am very noob with linux |
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| 07:24.24 | anna_T | Hallo Karl |
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| 07:25.10 | kgoetz | anna_T: hi |
| 07:26.49 | anna_T | i need some help Karl |
| 07:28.25 | cast|lir | if you don't know how to uninstall something, but you want to stop using it, then one can always just stop using it and leave it installed |
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| 07:29.54 | Ace2016 | So anyone here manage to get xgl to compile in debian sid? |
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| 07:31.39 | slapfaceware | command more does not scroll up |
| 07:31.54 | cast|lir | sure it does |
| 07:32.02 | cast|lir | man more |
| 07:32.14 | Ace2016 | under what circumstances? |
| 07:32.35 | anna_T | i don't to have a Shared Folder ,so can ininstall samba and smbclient? |
| 07:32.46 | \amethyst | more doesn't allow scrolling up when input is from a pipe |
| 07:32.48 | anna_T | i mean i don't ant |
| 07:32.54 | slapfaceware | how do i make more scroll up |
| 07:33.01 | kgoetz | anna_T: you'll have to sok someone else, i'm heading home :0 |
| 07:33.01 | slapfaceware | more whatever.php |
| 07:33.04 | kgoetz | *ask |
| 07:33.24 | \amethyst | slapfaceware: b |
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| 07:34.36 | \amethyst | slapfaceware: also u, k, and g; m<letter> followed by '<letter>; ?<pattern>; and N |
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| 07:35.45 | slapfaceware | ok |
| 07:35.46 | \amethyst | slapfaceware: though it seems like the util-linux version of more is extremely limited, and only supports b |
| 07:36.12 | slapfaceware | i usually use more as vi |
| 07:36.21 | \amethyst | is there really no Posix-compatible more in Debian? |
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| 07:38.34 | yigal | what about most? |
| 07:38.35 | ada | hi all |
| 07:39.22 | ada | apt: e17 |
| 07:39.23 | apt | [e17] IN DEVELOPEMENT, and this is the same to NOT FINISHED, some parts works, and some parts not works, e17 not is prepaired for the end-user, if you continue like to use it is your problem, if you search a stable thing, use e16 |
| 07:39.25 | yigal | pure silence how can one not enjoy that |
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| 07:40.07 | yigal | that is neat I didn't know about apt feature in irc |
| 07:40.12 | yigal | apt: most |
| 07:40.13 | apt | Browse or page through a text file. URL: ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/most/ |
| 07:40.21 | yigal | neat |
| 07:41.34 | yigal | the silence of the genius of Debian |
| 07:41.41 | ada | does someone using easy_e17.sh to install e17 from cvs ? i've got autogen errors... |
| 07:42.22 | cast|lir | ada: it's easy enough to install it yourself, at any rate that's more of a question for #e |
| 07:42.35 | alaya__ | e17? does it even run? |
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| 07:42.46 | cast|lir | alaya__: quite well. |
| 07:42.57 | alaya__ | i thought it was really beta or alpha |
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| 07:43.59 | cast|lir | it is not at beta yet |
| 07:44.09 | yigal | ada: does e17 have true transparency? |
| 07:44.26 | yigal | ada: built in |
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| 07:44.35 | alaya__ | the thing i always couldn't stand about e16 was that you couldn't maximize windows and have them overlap with the space of epplets at the bottom |
| 07:44.56 | alaya__ | have them not overlap that is. |
| 07:45.20 | ada | thanks cast|lir i was cs list #*enlig* and not just #e... |
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| 07:45.25 | alaya__ | so then you would always be dealing with scaled windows adjusted so they don't overlap at the bottom |
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| 07:46.07 | alaya__ | but could never maximize them |
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| 07:53.02 | senti | i m using i386 architecture... i want list what r the hardware will support in this architecture |
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| 07:55.01 | Ace2016 | Anyone know when the linux version of the ut3 demo is out? |
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| 07:57.49 | cast|lir | senti: the install manual covers that topic |
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| 07:59.54 | dimir | Moin! |
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| 08:03.43 | basanta | I setup squid 3 but it is not transparent what do I do? |
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| 08:06.41 | petemc | views |
| 08:06.42 | Supaplex | views |
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| 08:11.30 | auto359 | hi all, on a debian etch 64bit machine, what si the bets way to install Java SDk and plugin for Iceweasel? can get SDK sorted but plugin eludes me |
| 08:12.15 | auto359 | is* best* |
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| 08:13.08 | Arafangion | Hey, how does one do a multiline alias? |
| 08:13.22 | Arafangion | ie, alias foo='blah blah <newline> blah blah' |
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| 08:13.49 | Arafangion | (Rather, alias foo='blah && blah && blah && <newline> blah && blah' |
| 08:14.26 | Arafangion | With lots of \'s. |
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| 08:15.25 | senti | where it is |
| 08:16.55 | \amethyst | Arafangion: use a shell function not an alias |
| 08:17.30 | Arafangion | Hmm. |
| 08:17.41 | Arafangion | \amethyst: I just decided that a script would be best. |
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| 08:20.13 | robboplus | how do you convert unix time to human date? |
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| 08:20.30 | robboplus | at least it seems to be unix dateline: 1192597349 |
| 08:20.55 | SlimG2 | How do I configure a _dnsmasq_ etch multiNIC server to answer the client dns lookup with a unique IP based on the network the request comes from? |
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| 08:22.12 | lautarus | Hi |
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| 08:23.00 | lautarus | I have a file: /proc/kcore, what is this? I can remove it ? |
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| 08:24.22 | cafuego | lautarus: It's a representation of you r ram. |
| 08:24.25 | petemc | SlimG2: not sure you can, why not use bind? |
| 08:24.34 | cafuego | lautarus: You cannot remove anything in /proc. |
| 08:24.53 | lautarus | me la aguanto entonces ! |
| 08:25.11 | cafuego | lautarus: If you're going around randomly deleting files without knowing what they are, you've probably already destroyed your machine. |
| 08:25.23 | lautarus | ok ok ! :) |
| 08:25.28 | lautarus | thank you cafuego |
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| 08:25.50 | auto359 | ah well => c:\setup.exe |
| 08:25.50 | SlimG2 | petemc: I prefer the GPL license |
| 08:25.52 | cafuego | if you need free disk space, start with 'apt-get clean' to mpty the cached packages. |
| 08:26.19 | lautarus | yes I do it #apt-get clean |
| 08:26.21 | petemc | SlimG2: are you planning on contributing changes? |
| 08:26.54 | lautarus | thank you very much, bye !!! |
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| 08:27.07 | Arafangion | petemc: Indeed, that's pretty much teh only time when the license matters, for opensource licenses. |
| 08:27.15 | SlimG2 | petemc: who knows :) |
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| 08:28.54 | popey_ | hi all ! |
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| 08:29.41 | popey_ | I have a problem with Xen on Etch |
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| 08:31.02 | popey_ | It seems that after an apt-get dist-upgrade, my linux domU hosts can no longer see the network interface ... |
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| 08:32.40 | petemc | popey_: using the xen scripts? bridging? |
| 08:33.05 | popey_ | yes, bridging |
| 08:33.14 | popey_ | my windows domU host has no problem |
| 08:33.16 | petemc | what does "/etc/xen/scripts/network-bridge status" say |
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| 08:33.44 | petemc | dont paste here, obv.. |
| 08:33.47 | optraz1 | other than gzip, any other comparession in linux?other than gzip, any other comparession in linux? |
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| 08:34.02 | petemc | optraz1: bzip |
| 08:34.33 | popey_ | but both my debian and suse hosts can't use the network |
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| 08:34.50 | popey_ | here is the result of the network-bridge status : |
| 08:34.52 | popey_ | vserve:~# /etc/xen/scripts/network-bridge status |
| 08:34.52 | popey_ | ============================================================ |
| 08:34.52 | popey_ | 6: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,10000> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue |
| 08:34.52 | popey_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.52 | popey_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:35.14 | popey_ | xenbr0 8000.b6c22e9bb2aa no vif0.0 |
| 08:35.15 | popey_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.17 | popey_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.19 | popey_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.21 | popey_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.23 | popey_ | 10.4.0.0/16 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 10.4.1.50 |
| 08:35.25 | popey_ | default via 10.4.1.3 dev eth0 |
| 08:35.27 | popey_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.29 | popey_ | Table de routage IP du noyau |
| 08:35.33 | popey_ | Destination Passerelle Genmask Indic Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 08:35.35 | popey_ | 10.4.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 08:35.37 | popey_ | 0.0.0.0 10.4.1.3 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 08:35.39 | popey_ | ============================================================ |
| 08:35.41 | popey_ | ups ... |
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| 08:36.30 | popey_ | the linux domu seems to see the virtual network card |
| 08:36.35 | popey_ | but cannot use it |
| 08:36.44 | blue_asterisk | anybody using domainkeys for email on debian? |
| 08:37.33 | blue_asterisk | domainkeys for me hangs while trying to start the service |
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| 08:37.45 | dimir | wow |
| 08:37.52 | dimir | Talking about flood. |
| 08:38.16 | blue_asterisk | flood? |
| 08:38.30 | dimir | Just before you joined. |
| 08:38.54 | azeem | popey_: do not paste in here, use a pastebin |
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| 08:39.19 | optraz1 | how do i create tgz ? |
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| 08:39.40 | azeem | optraz1: /msg dpkg tar |
| 08:39.49 | blue_asterisk | optraz1: tar zcvf filename.tgz somefile_or_directory |
| 08:39.52 | azeem | optraz1: .tgz is the same as .tar.gz |
| 08:40.14 | optraz1 | azeem: blue_asterisk but that doesnt allow reappend, i want to reappend. then only compress to tgz |
| 08:40.53 | blue_asterisk | optraz1: man tar |
| 08:41.05 | dacs | anyone suggest a good mp3 streamer |
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| 08:41.43 | popey_ | azeem : how do i use pastebin ? |
| 08:41.55 | azeem | !pastebin |
| 08:41.55 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: pastebin pipe |
| 08:41.59 | blue_asterisk | nobody using domainkeys? how about spf? |
| 08:42.08 | popey_ | (you may have guess I'm not a huge IRC user :-) ) |
| 08:42.23 | dacs | !tell popey_ pastebin |
| 08:42.28 | dacs | err |
| 08:42.55 | dacs | !tell tell |
| 08:43.10 | dacs | i gave up |
| 08:43.19 | optraz1 | blue_asterisk: tried that |
| 08:43.25 | popey_ | ok |
| 08:43.30 | optraz1 | but i dont think it allow reappend or Append |
| 08:43.36 | popey_ | here is my paste : http://pastebin.ca/739571 |
| 08:44.09 | blue_asterisk | optraz1: what command did you try exactly? |
| 08:44.36 | optraz1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:45.18 | popey_ | on the debian domU, I have this in the /var/log/messages logfile : |
| 08:45.38 | popey_ | eth0 : RealTek RTL8139 at 0xc200 .... |
| 08:45.50 | popey_ | so, my host seems to see the card |
| 08:45.54 | dacs | guys any suggestion for mp3 streaming server |
| 08:46.12 | alaya__ | apache? |
| 08:46.20 | blue_asterisk | optraz1: looking at the man page, I think you put "-r" in the wrong order |
| 08:46.51 | popey_ | but ifconfig only shows lo, and ifup eth0 returns "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No suche device" |
| 08:47.00 | optraz1 | blue_asterisk: if you put -r together with -zf, it doesnt work |
| 08:47.01 | optraz1 | iether |
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| 08:49.00 | optraz1 | blue_asterisk: ? |
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| 08:49.06 | blue_asterisk | optraz1: google it; I think the first few results can help |
| 08:49.46 | cashboxhung | ? |
| 08:49.47 | blue_asterisk | those help with tar, you can pipe it to gz or something |
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| 08:52.57 | popey_ | Why can't my debian use a network card it sees during the boot process ? |
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| 08:56.44 | gladiator | i need to add squashfs module into my kernel , how to add????????????? |
| 08:57.49 | SlayerXP | gladiator: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 08:57.56 | grub_ | !modconf |
| 08:57.56 | dpkg | modconf is a tool to configure/add/delete kernel modules, and at the same time it will update /etc/modules, or fix drivers/net no-view bug with http://bugs.debian.org/358855 |
| 08:58.17 | Eulex | gladiator, install the right kernel module, or if you're on a non-standard kernel, m-a a-i squashfs. after you've got it, modprobe it. |
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| 08:59.37 | gladiator | thanks |
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| 09:02.17 | popey_ | sorry for asking again, but I have to solve my problem fast, and I have no idea how to fix it : My linux, living in a xen domU, seems to see my virtual network card during boot (eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xc200, 00:16:3e:6f:20:a3, IRQ 11), but I cannot use it. |
| 09:02.44 | popey_ | ifconfig eth0 up returns : eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags |
| 09:05.05 | dvs01 | how do i disable non-encrypted logins in vsftpd? |
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| 09:06.20 | amirf | hi how can i know the total size of a folder |
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| 09:08.44 | cast|lir | man du |
| 09:09.36 | amirf | cast|lir: thanks |
| 09:10.32 | cydork | popey_: try #debian-xen on oftc |
| 09:10.56 | popey_ | cydork: thanks for the link ! |
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| 09:15.16 | fuzzy_logic_ | hi people.. what is the mysql dev package called in debian etch? |
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| 09:15.39 | unicat | hi |
| 09:16.02 | themill | !info libmysqlclient-dev etch |
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| 09:16.15 | fuzzy_logic_ | thanks themill |
| 09:16.36 | themill | fuzzy_logic_: don't thank me yet... that's not in etch :( |
| 09:17.01 | themill | !info libmysqlclient15-dev etch |
| 09:17.03 | Ciaran_H | themill: libmysqlclient15-dev? |
| 09:17.04 | dpkg | libmysqlclient15-dev: (mysql database development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.0.32-7etch1 (etch), Packaged size: 6793 kB, Installed size: 19272 kB |
| 09:17.16 | themill | yep should be what you are looking for |
| 09:17.46 | fuzzy_logic_ | themill: thanks |
| 09:17.52 | themill | fuzzy_logic_: there's also the C++ bindings in libmysql++-dev |
| 09:18.26 | fuzzy_logic_ | themill: ok.. i don't need that |
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| 09:19.24 | Ciaran_H | fuzzy_logic_: What are you looking for? |
| 09:19.34 | Alarm | hello, by doing on etch an upgrade i get. The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-2.6-686. with a dist-upgarde it tries to upgrade to 2.6.15 , by upgrading to the new kernel, will it remove my old one or not ? or shouldnt i upgrade from *.14 to *.15 ? |
| 09:19.45 | fuzzy_logic_ | Ciaran_H: nothing.. themill helped me with my issue :) |
| 09:20.05 | Ciaran_H | fuzzy_logic_: Oh, I thought you just said you didn't need that, heh. |
| 09:20.33 | themill | Alarm: are you currently running sarge? or a really ancient etch (from before the freeze)? |
| 09:20.41 | Alarm | etch |
| 09:20.59 | Alarm | dont ask me its before or after the freeze :) |
| 09:21.04 | themill | 2.6.15 isn't in etch... are you sure about those version numbers? |
| 09:21.16 | themill | Alarm: I take it you haven't done an upgrade for a very long time...? |
| 09:21.18 | Alarm | yeap, i can copy you also the repositories that i got |
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| 09:21.35 | Alarm | i just installed from a debian stable dcd |
| 09:21.36 | Alarm | dvd |
| 09:22.04 | Alarm | i find also the headers for 2.6.15 in my repository |
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| 09:22.43 | Alarm | The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 . so i dont know if i should do this upgrade or not . |
| 09:23.11 | themill | ahhh .18-5 :) that sounds better |
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| 09:23.15 | cydork | Alarm: yes, you should upgrade.. |
| 09:23.20 | Alarm | and wonder why a simple upgrade doesnt upgrade it and it keeps it back and with a dist-upgrade it forces to upgrade |
| 09:23.25 | gileswwwrk | heya peeps |
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| 09:23.41 | trifler | debian is nice i run q3-server on it.. say im hot |
| 09:23.44 | themill | Alarm: yes, you should dist-upgrade -- it's an ABI change in the kernel so you will also need to recompile any out-of-tree kernel modules. |
| 09:23.46 | Alarm | would that cause problems to applications (except of the drivers of course) |
| 09:24.00 | Ciaran_H | themill: For the record, 2.6.18-5 means kernel version 2.6.18, Debian revision 5. It's not the same as 2.6.15. :) |
| 09:24.05 | Ciaran_H | Wait. |
| 09:24.08 | Ciaran_H | I meant Alarm, sorry. |
| 09:24.14 | themill | Ciaran_H: :) |
| 09:24.24 | Ciaran_H | themill: Got names mixed up :( |
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| 09:24.54 | Alarm | ok i will do the upgrade then |
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| 09:25.04 | lutera | hello everybody |
| 09:25.25 | lutera | where can i find compiz fusion repository |
| 09:25.26 | Alarm | so i need the new header files again . does the upgrade remove my old kernel ? or the files will remain ? dont want my system to be mixed up |
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| 09:25.34 | sadmin | hi all |
| 09:25.39 | sadmin | am getting this error |
| 09:25.40 | sadmin | Your message was automatically rejected by Sieve, a mail |
| 09:25.41 | sadmin | filtering language. |
| 09:25.41 | sadmin | The following reason was given: |
| 09:25.41 | sadmin | Quota exceeded |
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| 09:26.09 | sadmin | when any one send an email to me i have expand my mail quota to 10 Gb still sane error |
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| 09:27.35 | CyberMad | does anyone here experience with installing ejabberd ? do i need install apache first before ejabberd.. i want to use shared roster feature |
| 09:27.55 | ruben_ | Hello, somone knows an easy solution to get grhaps (traffic) or similar from my ethernets? |
| 09:28.18 | petemc | iptotal |
| 09:28.34 | ruben_ | uhmm, interesting |
| 09:28.56 | ruben_ | petemc: it has grhaps too? |
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| 09:29.20 | petemc | if grhaps is the same thing as graphs, sure |
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| 09:30.37 | ruben_ | :) |
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| 09:35.07 | gileswwwrk | I'm looking for some debian specific xen advise |
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| 09:35.23 | gileswwwrk | I need the 3.1 hypervisor but it's only in the testing currently |
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| 09:35.47 | gileswwwrk | I can't cherry pick it because it requires a libc upgrade |
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| 09:36.19 | gileswwwrk | I've compiled the hypervisor myself and it appears to be playing nice with the other debian xen packages |
| 09:36.31 | gileswwwrk | wondering if anyone else has had such issues |
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| 09:40.51 | popey_ | I have installed a xen hypervisor on my debian ... and I don't think I will do it again : xen is far from being ready for real use imho |
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| 09:41.12 | petemc | popey_: ive been using it for nearly 2 years |
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| 09:41.15 | mne | hipodilski, i'm using websvn version 1.61 with apache2 (packaged with the debian version on a production server). While everything else works fine, "*.tex" files cannot be displayed. instead, they can be downloaded only. When directly accessing the webdav svn, "*.tex" files can be viewed. There are also according mime entries for apache2. Do you have any suggestions in convincing websvn to show *.tex files ? |
| 09:41.17 | cydork | popey_: you must be kidding.. |
| 09:41.26 | popey_ | I have lost hours trying to solve problems that seems to have no solution ... |
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| 09:41.43 | petemc | popey_: i think the issue is you dont understand it, that doesnt make it not ready for real use |
| 09:41.52 | popey_ | I am using a frensh keyboard -> the vnc connection is unsuable for CLI |
| 09:42.39 | popey_ | the last answers I found are that the current etch version cannot handle keyboard layout. |
| 09:42.43 | lutera | where can i find compiz fusion repository |
| 09:43.07 | popey_ | so, I cannot use >, | or some other characters in vnc |
| 09:43.39 | popey_ | wich makes it realy hard to solve my network problem |
| 09:43.53 | themill | mne: if you want to see .tex files in the browser, try sending them with a mime-type of text/plain rather than application/x-latex or similar. |
| 09:44.19 | petemc | how would vnc work if you had no network? |
| 09:44.36 | popey_ | the dom0 has a network connexion |
| 09:44.47 | popey_ | my windows domU has a network connexion |
| 09:44.49 | mne | themill, i'll try that out ;) |
| 09:45.00 | popey_ | but my linux domUs ... no |
| 09:45.17 | popey_ | the vnc server is on the dom0's connexion |
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| 09:46.32 | mne | themill, well, it doesn't make a difference. still the same |
| 09:46.41 | Alarm | one more question :) by having in my archives directory also packages from lenny , but using the stable version (also having the stable repos in my sources.list file) , and doing an upgrade, would this upgrade packages according the repository from the server , or according what latest version it finds in the archives dir ? |
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| 09:47.09 | themill | mne: I presume you changed the mime-type, restarted apache and cleared your browser cache :) |
| 09:47.21 | mne | themill, right |
| 09:47.37 | themill | mne: you might like to try using wget to check that the mime-type is actually changed properly |
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| 09:47.54 | themill | mne: or HEAD, for that matter |
| 09:48.03 | mne | themill, i'll have a look |
| 09:48.42 | popey_ | 3 weeks of problems on averything I have to do on a computer ... i feel tired ... |
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| 09:51.21 | mne | themill, if i access the webdav svn repos directly the mime type is "text/plain" |
| 09:52.08 | mne | themill, obviously it's text/html for websvn (since websvn actually generates a dynamic web page with the content of the files). |
| 09:52.28 | themill | mne: and they're the ones that are working OK, aren't they? |
| 09:52.41 | themill | mne: sorry.... /me confused now... |
| 09:54.46 | mne | themill, all the files in the svn repository are working fine as long as the mime type is alright. but on the webserver, there's also the possibility to view the svn repository with websvn (looks nicer, code highlighting, ...). And with websvn averything works fine except for *.tex files. And i don't know why :P |
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| 09:57.43 | themill | mne: ahh... so it's the websvn viewer that doesn't know how to handle the tex files. It is probably treating them as a binary and telling you to download them as it doesn't know they are text.... |
| 09:58.19 | sf7 | is there some file viewer that shows images (like in xp) ? |
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| 09:59.34 | sf7 | sorry, the standsard one does :) |
| 09:59.44 | CyberMad | does anyone here ever use ejabberd ? |
| 09:59.57 | mne | themill, yes. but i just found the problem. ;) In the websvn php source-code *.tex files have a mime type of "application/x-tex". I commented that out now and it works ;) |
| 09:59.59 | Eulex | !anyone use |
| 09:59.59 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 10:01.02 | mne | themill, i guess the websvn mime types are not very "clean" ;) |
| 10:01.11 | themill | mne: good stuff ;) well done. Perhaps that's a change you should suggest to upstream on that, although they presumably put that in there to begin with. |
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| 10:01.41 | themill | mne: "clean".... well... they have this real-mime-type to html (with syntax highlighting) filter in there... that's always going to be a bit dirty. |
| 10:02.16 | mne | themill, i'll contact them. Maybe they even changed it in current versions. Since the server is a production server it's websvn is not the newest |
| 10:02.33 | mne | themill, exactly |
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| 10:03.05 | Haris | Hello people |
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| 10:03.12 | Haris | How do I unzip zip files? |
| 10:03.13 | Haris | on etch |
| 10:03.20 | Haris | there is no unzip package |
| 10:03.27 | Adrian | then install it |
| 10:03.34 | themill | !info unzip etch |
| 10:03.38 | dpkg | unzip: (De-archiver for .zip files), section utils, is optional. Version: 5.52-9 (etch), Packaged size: 148 kB, Installed size: 288 kB |
| 10:03.48 | basanta | while setting up transparent proxy using iptables -i interface should be INTERNAL INTERFACE OR INTERNET INTERFACE ? |
| 10:03.55 | Haris | There is, its just not installed |
| 10:04.02 | grub | hi, my touchpad scroll doesnt work. ALPS touchpad, my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/wFo2Y530.html |
| 10:04.08 | themill | Haris: wtf? |
| 10:04.50 | Haris | why doesn't make work? |
| 10:04.51 | Haris | hmm.. |
| 10:04.52 | themill | Haris: please reconcile these two statements.... [11:03] <Haris> there is no unzip package....... [11:03] <Haris> There is, its just not installed |
| 10:05.00 | Haris | themill: Just insatlled it |
| 10:05.30 | Haris | themill: apparently the unzip, zip packages were listed in the beginning of the output in apt-cache search zip |
| 10:05.47 | Haris | I thought it was a alphabetical order and it would listed at the end |
| 10:05.50 | Haris | my bad. |
| 10:06.26 | themill | Haris: aptitude search unzip will sort them, but it searches in a different way. |
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| 10:07.14 | themill | Haris: or if you really want them sorted by package name: apt-cache search zip | sort |
| 10:07.30 | chinasky | hello, (silly question) my kernel is 2.6.22-2-amd64 on debian sid and i want to recompile it. do i have to install linux-source-2.6.22? cause i can´t find linux-source-2.6.22-2-amd64 |
| 10:07.52 | dA_ShArP | Can Somebody recommend a GUI way to setup PPPOE COnnetction?? |
| 10:08.06 | wols_ | dA_ShArP: there is none. what's bad about pppoeconfig? |
| 10:08.15 | mne | chinasky, just install linux-source-2.6.22 |
| 10:08.17 | wols_ | erm, pppoeconf |
| 10:08.19 | dA_ShArP | wols_, well |
| 10:08.29 | chinasky | mne:thanks!! |
| 10:09.55 | dA_ShArP | wols_, I just tried to configure,, and o'course I am successful ,.. plog return the proper values what it should return.. but when I'm trying to ping google.com its says unknown host and when I am trying to ping my DNS I don't understand why I ams getting .. reply from 192.168.1.1.... : destination not reachable so ultimately I am unable to use net on my debian |
| 10:10.29 | alex_ | hello, i have a problem with kernels |
| 10:10.44 | mne | chinasky, if you just want to compile some kernel module that's not in the default kernel you might also consider using the linux-headers packages. it will save you a lot of work ;) |
| 10:10.56 | wols_ | dA_ShArP: show us the output of ifconfig and route |
| 10:11.05 | dA_ShArP | wols_ its fine |
| 10:11.15 | wols_ | dA_ShArP: if you don't want help, suit yourself |
| 10:11.17 | dA_ShArP | wols_ its showing the ppoe |
| 10:11.38 | dA_ShArP | wols_ hey I meant the output is fine what it should show |
| 10:11.46 | alex_ | i was using apt-get via backports to get vmlinuz-2.6.22-2-vserver-k7 -> when i boot the kernel, it errors on me saying: check root=bootarg cat /proc/cmdline for missing modules, devices: cat /proc/dev ALERT! /dev/md0 does not exist. ..... however my normal 2.6.22-2-k7 kernel works fine, can anyone help me whats going on here? |
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| 10:11.56 | wols_ | dA_ShArP: eithre you show me or stop talking to me please |
| 10:12.01 | dA_ShArP | wols_, like there the pppoe part with an IP and DNS showing up.. it correct |
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| 10:12.13 | dA_ShArP | wols_ ok lemme pastebin it |
| 10:12.17 | chinasky | mne: i want to compile the entire kernel |
| 10:12.23 | mne | chinasky, ok ;) |
| 10:12.30 | dA_ShArP | wols_, cause I'm on a ubuntu now.. |
| 10:12.37 | wols_ | dA_ShArP: then ask #ubuntu |
| 10:12.54 | dA_ShArP | wols_, lol I can't work out internet on debian so I am on ubuntu |
| 10:12.59 | dA_ShArP | wols_ LOL |
| 10:13.20 | wols_ | dA_ShArP: what IP do you get when using pppoe under debian? |
| 10:13.34 | dakoo | the internet is down |
| 10:13.40 | wols_ | dA_ShArP: is it a 192.188.0.0/16 one? |
| 10:13.42 | BaD_CrC | is there a spacific channel that deals with Debian testing/Lenny? |
| 10:13.46 | dA_ShArP | wols_ I am able to access my PPPOE via that pppoeconfig in ubuntu which fails in Debian |
| 10:13.49 | wols_ | BaD_CrC: no |
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| 10:14.11 | dA_ShArP | wols_ no I get my ISP provied Ip and that a lan ip what you just typed |
| 10:14.28 | dA_ShArP | wols_ that's * |
| 10:14.32 | wols_ | then why is your DNS 192.168.1.1? also is there NAT involved anywhere? |
| 10:14.53 | dA_ShArP | wols_ well listen... |
| 10:15.01 | wols_ | e.g. are you trying to run debian as a NAT router? |
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| 10:15.12 | dA_ShArP | wols_ my DNS is some thing 203.145.184.40 |
| 10:15.20 | dA_ShArP | wols_ NAT involved |
| 10:15.48 | wols_ | who is supposed to do the NAT? cause if it's debian it could be a bad iptables setup |
| 10:15.48 | dA_ShArP | wols_ when I do ping 203.145.184.40 I get : 192.168.1.1... destination unreachable |
| 10:16.10 | wols_ | that means a routing fuckup most likely, so eithre route or iptables |
| 10:16.42 | dA_ShArP | wols_ I NAT to host a counterstrike server :O |
| 10:17.12 | dA_ShArP | wols_ what do you recommend ?? lOL |
| 10:17.14 | dA_ShArP | ? |
| 10:17.23 | wols_ | I already told you. your choice if you don't want to |
| 10:17.25 | wols_ | !lol |
| 10:17.25 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 10:21.21 | basanta | can you ping mpp.org.np ? anyone ? |
| 10:21.21 | Haris | what's the etch kernel source package name? |
| 10:22.00 | tralala | Haris, apt-cache search -n linux-source |
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| 10:23.14 | themill | Haris: we are not your replacement for google or reading or trying yourself.... we're happy to help people, but we really do prefer to help people who help themselves. |
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| 10:24.07 | fireba11 | basanta: i can |
| 10:24.20 | Haris | basanta: yep, ATT's router can ping it |
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| 10:24.46 | basanta | fireba11, all |
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| 10:25.44 | Haris | aha |
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| 10:25.47 | SpeedyG | anyone here used devilspie in combination with amsn? I'm looking for a sollution to send my amsn-chat windows to a specific workspace |
| 10:25.47 | Haris | you call it linux source |
| 10:25.53 | Haris | the redhat people call it kernel-source |
| 10:26.11 | wols_ | no, we call it /msg dpkg search |
| 10:26.14 | wols_ | read that |
| 10:26.21 | tralala | one of the many differeneces between us and them |
| 10:26.32 | wols_ | tralala: this difference is fairly recent... |
| 10:26.34 | fuzzy_logic_ | hi people.. i am using courier-imap and postfix for my mail, but since courier-imap-ssl made some trouble i decided not to use it and remove it.. but now my mail doesn't work.. what configuration do i have to change to disable imap listening to ssl? |
| 10:26.36 | Haris | The differences is what I'm here for |
| 10:27.04 | themill | Haris: "apt-cache search kernel source" would also have found it for you. |
| 10:27.08 | tralala | Haris, man dpkg, man aptitude is a good start |
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| 10:27.44 | tralala | wols_, indeed |
| 10:27.45 | Haris | I searched for aptitude search kernel |
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| 10:32.34 | alex_ | i was using apt-get via backports to get vmlinuz-2.6.22-2-vserver-k7 -> when i boot the kernel, it errors on me saying: check root=bootarg cat /proc/cmdline for missing modules, devices: cat /proc/dev ALERT! /dev/md0 does not exist. ..... however my normal 2.6.22-2-k7 kernel works fine, can anyone help me whats going on here? |
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| 10:33.43 | dallix_ | i am having an issue with my grub menu list. |
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| 10:33.59 | tralala | alex_, do you have the exact error message? |
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| 10:34.30 | dallix_ | when i boot i get 8 entries insted of just the 4 i want |
| 10:34.30 | alex_ | thats the error message the server monkeys told me before rebooting to a different kernel |
| 10:35.05 | dallix_ | it gives me 2 sets of 2 identical entries. |
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| 10:35.45 | dallix_ | then one that is the same exept with the bstheme at the end. |
| 10:36.19 | dallix_ | i tried t install bstheme but a dependancy is not satified |
| 10:36.27 | tralala | dallix_, I've experienced the same problem with one of my installations, but I've never been bothered to try to fix it |
| 10:36.57 | dallix_ | and i got small os on the other |
| 10:37.00 | SlimG | How can I quickly add a gateway-ip to ex. eth0 ? "route" seem to be the right app, but I can't figure out how to make it do what I want |
| 10:37.05 | tralala | alex_, that's not giving much food for thoughts |
| 10:37.33 | dallix_ | thanks for the help |
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| 10:38.23 | fuzzy_logic_ | hellop |
| 10:39.37 | CyberMad | how to install .bin ? i tried ./ejabberd-1.1.4-linux-x86-installer.bin then i got bash: ./ejabberd-1.1.4-linux-x86-installer.bin: Permission denied ?? |
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| 10:41.06 | martoss | hi folks, i am migrating a bunch of compute nodes to share one nfsroot, networking is setup via kernel parameter. How can i set the hostname properly? |
| 10:41.07 | tralala | CyberMad, make it executable first |
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| 10:41.33 | CyberMad | tralala would you tell me how to do it? |
| 10:42.20 | tralala | SlimG, ip r add default via XXX dev eth0 (needs iproute package) |
| 10:42.29 | martoss | CyberMad, chmod ugo+x yourfile |
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| 10:43.04 | o2T7 | hi |
| 10:43.15 | CyberMad | thanks |
| 10:43.25 | o2T7 | I have a problem with my environment variables :S |
| 10:43.45 | o2T7 | If i run 'set' i get the script instead of the list of set variables |
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| 10:44.02 | wols_ | o2T7: what shell do you use? |
| 10:44.15 | o2T7 | bash |
| 10:44.17 | wols_ | and what "script"? |
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| 10:44.32 | o2T7 | I don't know which is it |
| 10:44.45 | o2T7 | It is a fresh install of etch from netinstall |
| 10:45.04 | o2T7 | if you want i may upload the output |
| 10:45.26 | tralala | martoss, have you tried lessdisks? |
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| 10:45.33 | wols_ | locate set might find it |
| 10:45.42 | o2T7 | ok, i try it |
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| 10:45.59 | o2T7 | ups |
| 10:46.00 | o2T7 | locate set|wc -l |
| 10:46.00 | o2T7 | 934 |
| 10:46.42 | o2T7 | Here you have the output of `set` |
| 10:46.43 | o2T7 | http://nopaste.com/p/aUXIYQZ13 |
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| 10:47.16 | Sergo | i got the error, that ext3 is the Read-only file system, what i have done wrong? |
| 10:47.20 | martoss | tralala, this is a server package, pulling the other packages necessary too setup nfs boot |
| 10:47.25 | SlimG | tralala: Thanks! |
| 10:47.26 | martoss | this is already set up and working |
| 10:47.35 | themill | o2T7: that's correct for the output of set....I'm not sure what you're worried about |
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| 10:48.13 | o2T7 | themill: oh, My doubt came from the difference with my other etch at home |
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| 10:48.54 | themill | o2T7: you have bash completion enabled which loads a lot of functions that you see in that output. Is that what you were worried about? |
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| 10:49.23 | o2T7 | For example, if i run `soffice` I get: "application couldn't start""user's gui language couldn't be determined" |
| 10:49.32 | tralala | martoss, for setting up the hostname correctly you'll need a script to identify the client. Lessdisks has such a script and many other useful things. It might be worthed to switch to it. Even if it isn't you can use it for ideas how to do things. |
| 10:49.35 | o2T7 | I guessed it was because of environment variables |
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| 10:50.00 | o2T7 | I even isntalled the lasta stable .debs of openoffice and the error is similar. |
| 10:50.04 | o2T7 | last* |
| 10:50.06 | martoss | tralala, ah ok thx |
| 10:50.17 | martoss | will take a closer look on lessdisks |
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| 10:50.23 | themill | o2T7: do you have the es_ES locale installed? |
| 10:50.34 | o2T7 | let's see |
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| 10:50.53 | o2T7 | the package 'locales' could be? |
| 10:51.36 | themill | o2T7: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 10:51.43 | o2T7 | fine |
| 10:52.10 | themill | o2T7: I'm taking a guess that this is your problem... |
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| 10:52.42 | o2T7 | I have "es_ES.UTF-8 UTF-8" maked with '*' |
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| 10:52.48 | tralala | martoss, okay switching is apparently not a good idea - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=389498 |
| 10:53.01 | o2T7 | How did you know that ES was my native language? ;) |
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| 10:53.30 | martoss | tralala, hmm ok might be easier to modify hostname by script on bootup. |
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| 10:54.06 | themill | o2T7: LANG=es_ES.UTF8 in your pastebin ;) |
| 10:54.22 | martoss | or link it in a directory, which contains an individual mount per node |
| 10:54.23 | o2T7 | oh, it regenerated the locales but soffice didn't init :( |
| 10:54.48 | o2T7 | It is weird because soffice did run fine before. |
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| 10:58.25 | verte | did me a nice fresh netinstall last night, but any attempt to use gl just dies. |
| 10:59.43 | verte | does anyone know about things I can check? xorg.conf looks ok, there's nothing interesting in the log, glxinfo looks ok too. |
| 11:00.04 | spq | hmm i have a problem with proftpd since i updated debian from sarge to etch, i cant login because proftpd does not use pam, it just reads the passwd/shadow files and does not use pam, which is configured to use pgsql |
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| 11:01.59 | verte | glxinfo reports not finding .drirc config files, but I shouldn't think that would be a problem. glxgears with verbose debugging mentions the same thing before "killed." |
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| 11:04.45 | verte | I am using etch on a thinkpad t20. |
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| 11:09.00 | verte | brb, going to do a just-checking reboot. |
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| 11:10.05 | Eversun | Hi, OT: Its more likely related to the .org registry and their dns...I have updated my local nameservers where I run the zones for several domain on.I went ahead and renamed the domain of the nameserver to a domain in a zone-domain itself. Everything went fone for my .info domains. However, the .org registry states that the nameserver ns1 now does not exist. Therefore my question would be: After what time does .org reload their nameservers? >48hs? Bec |
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| 11:19.09 | Dark_Apostrophe | !no pubkey |
| 11:19.17 | Dark_Apostrophe | hmm... |
| 11:19.24 | Dark_Apostrophe | !no public key |
| 11:19.24 | dpkg | Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details. |
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| 11:20.58 | pro_ | how do i install a package that is not available in the apt? |
| 11:21.13 | petemc | pro_: you have .deb? |
| 11:21.14 | Dark_Apostrophe | dpkg -i packagename.deb |
| 11:21.38 | pro_ | erm i mean something like this... " Depends: libboost-date-time1.34.0 (>= 1.34.0~rc2-1) but it is not installable" |
| 11:21.41 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hmm... Not exactly a comfortable--sounding idea. |
| 11:21.51 | abrotman | pro_: might need to aptitude update first |
| 11:23.03 | pro_ | already did |
| 11:23.10 | pro_ | even debian.org reports 1.33 only |
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| 11:23.30 | Siegfried_ | anybody is using clamav? |
| 11:23.46 | Siegfried_ | i have debian etch and it says my clamav version is too old |
| 11:23.53 | Siegfried_ | can't get the new updates |
| 11:24.01 | Siegfried_ | and my debian etch is updated |
| 11:24.18 | abrotman | pro_: this is unstable ? |
| 11:24.23 | Siegfried_ | WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! |
| 11:24.29 | abrotman | !tell Siegfried_ about volatile |
| 11:25.02 | pro_ | you mean the software i want to install? |
| 11:25.14 | Siegfried_ | thx abrotman i'm going to read |
| 11:25.14 | abrotman | pro_: yes |
| 11:25.23 | pro_ | yes unstable.. |
| 11:25.45 | abrotman | wait til tomorrow .. try again .. it happens |
| 11:26.37 | abrotman | pro_: though 1.34.1 is in sid |
| 11:26.37 | asc | gah, I'm trying to make an SSH tunnel. The command I'm using is ssh -L 81:10.255.150.1:22 user@10.255.150.1. Can anybody tell me why it's not working? |
| 11:26.54 | asc | (I set ForwardAgent yes, Tunnel yes, TunnelDevice any:any in ssh_config) |
| 11:27.01 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/sid/libboost-date-time1.34.1 |
| 11:27.12 | abrotman | i guess it uses hard versioning .. seems stupid |
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| 11:28.09 | abrotman | pro_: what package are you trying to install ? |
| 11:28.15 | Siegfried_ | i thought -L was just for the port number |
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| 11:29.04 | asc | My man ssh says "-L [bind_address:]port:host:hostport'", whatever that means. :p |
| 11:29.42 | asc | waait a second... |
| 11:29.48 | spq | probably you wanted to use -R (i always use wrong one ^^) |
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| 11:30.44 | alarm | is there a way to disable ksoftirqd , and is it safe to do so ? |
| 11:30.56 | alarm | this thing takes 30% of my cpu usage |
| 11:31.13 | abrotman | alarm: doubtful and probably not .. ask ##kernel |
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| 11:31.47 | spq | noone knows how to say proftpd to use pam? :/ |
| 11:31.58 | petemc | isnt that the default? |
| 11:32.04 | spq | it should |
| 11:32.09 | spq | but it does noit work |
| 11:32.12 | asc | So, -R is for forwarding a local port to a remote host, and -L is for forwarding a local port to a different local port? |
| 11:32.16 | petemc | and it has been, when i've used it |
| 11:32.36 | spq | it does really not work |
| 11:32.40 | alarm | ok |
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| 11:32.49 | asc | Hm, apparently not |
| 11:32.49 | petemc | spq: version from stable? |
| 11:32.57 | spq | version from etch |
| 11:33.01 | spq | yes stable |
| 11:33.02 | taneli | who changes my interfaces to have 169.254 addresses? |
| 11:33.12 | petemc | spq: ive used that version on many machines, it works for me.. |
| 11:33.12 | taneli | and how do i stop it |
| 11:33.16 | petemc | spq: what do the logs say?> |
| 11:33.26 | abrotman | taneli: your dhcp server isn't there |
| 11:33.27 | spq | petemc, no such user |
| 11:33.47 | taneli | abrotman: there shouldn't be dhcp on either end |
| 11:33.50 | spq | and with strace i have found out that proftpd just reads the etc/passwd file nothing else |
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| 11:34.05 | abrotman | taneli: something make it dhcp |
| 11:34.14 | spq | and the config isthe debian default |
| 11:34.32 | spq | the pam.d/proftpd also debian default |
| 11:34.57 | abrotman | taneli: check your interfaces file |
| 11:34.57 | spq | and the common-* files use pgsql |
| 11:35.10 | spq | and su works fine with the users in the pgsql db |
| 11:35.28 | asc | What I'm trying to do is forward incoming connections on 81 to 10.255.150.1:22 |
| 11:35.28 | spq | but proftpd just does not use pam |
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| 11:36.14 | taneli | abrotman: usb0 is "inet static", but still something overwrites what I specify with 169.254 |
| 11:36.22 | petemc | spq: what does pgsql have to do with anything? |
| 11:36.46 | spq | it is one of the modules i have in pam.d/common-* |
| 11:36.55 | spq | but this works fine |
| 11:36.59 | taneli | abrotman: do you know which process/package is responsible |
| 11:37.03 | asc | I found an error, which is "channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed" |
| 11:37.19 | spq | the only problem is that proftpd does not use pam |
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| 11:37.27 | abrotman | taneli: nope .. try looking at what you've installed recently |
| 11:37.31 | RvGaTe^work | I had some wierd problems while installing debian on my new pc... happens to be it cant find any proper drivers for my harddrive.. i have a "Western Digital Caviar SE 200GB (7200rpm S-ATA)", during install, it gives me a choice on wich drivers i should use... wich driver do i need to select to make it correctly detect my hdd... or when there is no driver in the list that works, where could i get a driver that does work |
| 11:37.48 | petemc | spq: well, as ive said, i use it on many different machines, the only difference being i dont have any users in pgsql, so i guess thats your problem |
| 11:38.14 | spq | so how should i tst it? |
| 11:38.18 | taneli | abrotman: I've installed everything recently, brand new machine ... |
| 11:38.32 | spq | if i have local users in my etc/passwd file, they work |
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| 11:38.44 | taneli | abrotman: but thanks anyway, I'll try find and slaughter the culprit |
| 11:40.05 | amirf | how can i list with hidden files ? |
| 11:40.20 | asc | ls -h |
| 11:40.30 | asc | er |
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| 11:40.41 | asc | that totally userd to work for me :P |
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| 11:40.57 | spq | petemc, i hate that fucking thing(proftpd) which cant even log important things in highest debug mode |
| 11:41.01 | nicox | hello |
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| 11:41.11 | spq | it normally works out of the box |
| 11:41.16 | spq | just here it doesnt |
| 11:41.16 | asc | *ls -a |
| 11:41.19 | asc | that's what I meant |
| 11:41.34 | nicox | do anybody know if its possible to remote reinstall a debian-amd64 to debian-i686 system? |
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| 11:43.33 | cast|lir | sure is |
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| 11:43.56 | aspWork | is this information current? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
| 11:44.09 | abrotman | taneli: look in your init.d and see if anything is calling dhclient |
| 11:44.18 | aspWork | i am trying to install etch on a ich9r raid controller |
| 11:45.00 | nicox | where can i find infos to try this? |
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| 11:47.28 | abrotman | !kmuto |
| 11:47.28 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 11:49.15 | verte | hello again. sorry that took so long. |
| 11:49.25 | verte | the reboot didn't help, either |
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| 11:51.14 | Spyro_boy | http://paste.tonybox.net/369 I'm really bad at solving issues like this. Does anyone have any idea how to solve this? Gnash won't compile because it thinks that atomicity.h doesn't exist, but it sure does as shown also in the paste. |
| 11:51.26 | Spyro_boy | I'm running Debian AMD64 Testing. |
| 11:51.33 | verte | ok. all I did was remove the touchpad item in the xorg.conf, and now dri is disabled. |
| 11:52.02 | taneli | abrotman: "grep -r" found 1 line, but it was a comment |
| 11:52.21 | taneli | also I haven't booted in 2 days |
| 11:52.45 | Spyro_boy | Any input on my dependancy failure? |
| 11:53.07 | nicox | anyone would like to help? |
| 11:53.23 | Spyro_boy | 07:37 <nicox> do anybody know if its possible to remote reinstall a debian-amd64 to debian-i686 system? |
| 11:53.36 | Spyro_boy | nicox, doubt it. That might require a full reinstalll. |
| 11:53.47 | Spyro_boy | Actually, it does. |
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| 11:54.11 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 11:54.18 | Ace2016 | can someone help me with a permissions issue? |
| 11:54.19 | Spyro_boy | oh, you know that. you're asking if it's possible. |
| 11:54.21 | cast|lir | it's not all that hard to do, but you have to be quite awake to do a remote reinstall well |
| 11:54.24 | Spyro_boy | and yes, it's also possible. |
| 11:54.36 | RvGaTe^work | anyone ? |
| 11:54.49 | Ace2016 | i can't modify a file in my home directory, one which i coppied off a cd, which is a backup of my old home directory, i think its a permissions issue |
| 11:55.22 | nicox | i did it years before with a redhat -> debian remote install |
| 11:55.47 | nicox | and there was a great howto, is there any howto available? or any idea how i can try it? |
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| 11:55.51 | wiqd | has anyone every had apache2 on debian serve one virtual host on the servername of another virtual host intermittently ? |
| 11:55.56 | crm | is there a way to repair a package? |
| 11:55.57 | Spyro_boy | nicox, look for debootstrap. |
| 11:56.11 | crm | i screwed up my alsa startup script |
| 11:56.31 | Ace2016 | Access denied to /home/ace/.bashrc.save. ?????? |
| 11:56.41 | Ace2016 | i can't even edit the permissions in konqueror :( |
| 11:56.43 | Ace2016 | what do i do? |
| 11:56.51 | Shadur | learn to use chmod. |
| 11:57.15 | Ace2016 | i did, i tried a sudo chmod 777 * -R and its still not writable for some strange and unknown reason |
| 11:57.28 | Shadur | ... That was an incredibly stupid thing to do. |
| 11:57.30 | nicox | thanks, i will search and do my best. |
| 11:57.32 | nicox | thanks a lot |
| 11:57.35 | Shadur | And no, that wouldn't have worked. |
| 11:57.40 | Ace2016 | oh |
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| 11:57.52 | Ace2016 | but doesn't that make everything writable? |
| 11:58.32 | themill | Ace2016: no, the order of arguments is important. -R has to be before the list of files. And it's also a stupid thing to do. |
| 11:58.36 | Shadur | Readable, writable and executable to everyone and everything who tries. |
| 11:58.46 | crm | is there a way to repair a package? |
| 11:58.50 | taneli | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:59.07 | cast|lir | reinstall it. |
| 11:59.08 | Shadur | And you did that to every file and directory through all possible recursion.... *except* any files that start with a period. |
| 11:59.26 | crm | are there commands to do that with apt cast|lir ? |
| 11:59.27 | Ace2016 | oh |
| 11:59.35 | Ace2016 | do i need a -a in there too? |
| 11:59.41 | cast|lir | the reinstall command, interestingly enough |
| 11:59.42 | crm | if i remove it.. there are all sorts of dependency issues |
| 11:59.51 | themill | Ace2016: no! You *never* issue commands like that. |
| 11:59.55 | crm | hrm |
| 12:00.01 | Shadur | ... Do I need to club you on the head before you listen to the part where we tell you it was an incredibly stupid thing to do? |
| 12:00.06 | themill | crm: reinstall the package |
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| 12:00.16 | Ace2016 | i was only trying to get write access to my files |
| 12:00.27 | Ace2016 | so whats the restore command for this? |
| 12:00.35 | Shadur | Ace2016: There isn't one. |
| 12:00.36 | cast|lir | heh. |
| 12:00.46 | Shadur | Aside from chmodding all files and directories back one by one. |
| 12:00.55 | themill | Ace2016: the correct command would have been: chmod 644 ~/.bashrc |
| 12:01.04 | themill | Ace2016: what directory were you in when you ran that command? |
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| 12:01.17 | Shadur | themill: Looks like ~ |
| 12:01.23 | Ace2016 | one by one? isnt there a way to fix everything in one like chmod 644 * -R? |
| 12:01.38 | Shadur | Ace2016: You could do that... But that'd lose you execute access to your directories. |
| 12:01.44 | themill | !cluebat Ace2016 |
| 12:01.53 | Shadur | And make your executables unusable. |
| 12:02.03 | Ace2016 | i have no executables |
| 12:02.07 | themill | Ace2016: I just told you that you can't use * -R anyway, didn't I? |
| 12:02.10 | Shadur | Not anymore, no. |
| 12:02.11 | crm | can you get me started on the reinstall syntax cast|lir ? |
| 12:02.28 | verte | does anyone have dri working on an older thinkpad? |
| 12:02.53 | Shadur | Ace2016: Let me put it this way: You /had/ a pretty painting. Then in an effort to change one part of it you ran over the entire thing with a paint roller. |
| 12:03.04 | Shadur | Using the paint roller again won't fix the damage you did. |
| 12:03.07 | Ace2016 | themill: yea i fixed it by using -R * |
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| 12:03.23 | themill | Ace2016: for what definition of "fix"? |
| 12:03.46 | Ace2016 | make the files inside .kde/autostart writable, thats what i wanted |
| 12:04.17 | Shadur | ... Good grief. |
| 12:04.41 | Ace2016 | oh and the rest of .kde |
| 12:04.47 | stew | Ace2016: find ~ -type d | xargs chmod 700 ; find ~ -type f | xargs chmod 600 |
| 12:04.54 | g4bor | hi. does anyone know about an amd64-etch vmware image? (i mean a vmware image that contains an amd64-etch) |
| 12:04.56 | crm | <cast|lir> the reinstall command, interestingly enough |
| 12:05.05 | Shadur | Ace2016: And the entire rest of your home directory and everything below it. |
| 12:05.13 | Shadur | To *everyone and everything*. |
| 12:05.15 | crm | you're going to get smart with me .. then not tell me how cast|lir ? |
| 12:05.26 | crm | perhaps it is that you just don't know |
| 12:05.40 | crm | im really suprised by the contempt of the answers given in here |
| 12:06.04 | themill | crm: aptitude reinstall <packagename> |
| 12:06.04 | crm | its really amazing that anyone bothers to use debian given the rude responses |
| 12:06.09 | stew | crm: you need to reinstall the package with confnew |
| 12:06.10 | crm | and we come here for help |
| 12:06.21 | Ronin | crm: calm down :) |
| 12:06.24 | themill | crm: if you complain, you get less help.... |
| 12:06.25 | crm | no wonder people opt for windows |
| 12:06.36 | stew | crm: i'm reviewing /lastlog and I don't see anything rude |
| 12:06.37 | crm | thanks TheMagician |
| 12:06.39 | themill | crm: did you look at the confmiss factoid from dpkg? |
| 12:06.40 | crm | err themill |
| 12:06.41 | Shadur | crm: Perhaps we think you're better helped by being taught to check the documentation than being spoonfed like Ace2016 just tried |
| 12:06.42 | Ace2016 | well its not like anyone else uses this computer so i don't see the problem, and anyway if someone wanted they'd probably just use knoppix and have a look |
| 12:07.09 | stew | crm: /msg dpkg confmiss ; you need to do that, but you need confnew, not confmiss; then you'll need to reconfigure alsa with alsaconf |
| 12:07.33 | Ace2016 | ok well i'll recompile xorg and reinstall |
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| 12:07.55 | Mrdini | heya all |
| 12:08.13 | Ace2016 | hi |
| 12:08.16 | maxaki | Hello... Is have some problems with the wlan drivers for my debian, is it any skilled one who can help me with it? :) |
| 12:08.25 | Knight_Lord | What's the init.d script to restart inetd? I don't seem to have /etc/init.d/inetd |
| 12:08.29 | Knight_Lord | I'm running sid |
| 12:08.47 | Mrdini | query - I want to dpkg-reconfigure a certain package - how do I fond out what dpackages are reconfigurable? (xfree86 to be specific) |
| 12:09.16 | themill | crm: please remember that we are here volunteering... most of us are probably at work and we are often called away for other things. Not replying might mean that we're also gainfully employed :) |
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| 12:09.25 | themill | !tell Mrdini about drxx |
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| 12:09.45 | Mrdini | themill, heh, guess that gets asked in here pretty often? :P |
| 12:09.59 | Shadur | crm: And since we're not being paid, we're also generally less inclined to suffer fools gladly. Especially rude ones like you. |
| 12:10.06 | themill | Mrdini: yeah.... reasonably :) |
| 12:10.08 | cast|lir | crm: i was thinking aptitude reinstall, but, after a google for 'reinstall apt command' the first link lead me to http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html, which has the line in it "If you somehow damage an installed package, or simply want the files of a package to be reinstalled with the newest version that is available, you can use the --reinstall option like so: # apt-get --reinstall install gdm" |
| 12:10.14 | stew | Shadur: enough. please drop it |
| 12:10.23 | Shadur | Fine, fine. |
| 12:10.41 | stew | reinstall won't fix his problem anyway, since its a configuration file |
| 12:10.45 | crm | interestingly enough Shadur .. it was your comments that i found offensive |
| 12:10.56 | stew | crm: Shadur: take it elsewhere |
| 12:11.04 | themill | maxaki: you need to tell us what chipset you have |
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| 12:12.04 | smhar | I am trying to install the configure my atheros wifi controller (net5211.inf) following a guide I found through google. It is for ubuntu but I guess it should work: http://my-geek-side.blogspot.com/2007/08/ubuntu-on-toshiba-a215-s4747.html. Reaching the end of the guide I got this error: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. any ideas on this issue? |
| 12:12.25 | Shadur | smhar: Do you have the ndiswrapper package installed? |
| 12:12.26 | themill | !tell smhar about ndiswrapper |
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| 12:12.45 | themill | !tell smhar about ndiswrapper one-liner> |
| 12:12.50 | themill | !tell smhar about ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 12:12.52 | asc | Is it possible to manually open a port? |
| 12:12.54 | themill | dpkg: stupid bot |
| 12:12.54 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
| 12:13.13 | Shadur | smhar: Part of it's a kernel module, so you'll have to get the ones for your kernel or use the ndiswrapper-source package to compile your own for your own kernel. |
| 12:13.42 | stew | asc: yes, what are you trying to do exactly |
| 12:14.11 | crm | ndis wrapper driver is pretty standard... you just need to ini and windows driver files.. no need to compile stuff |
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| 12:14.22 | smhar | Shadur, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 and ndiswrapper-common are already the newest version. |
| 12:14.29 | asc | I'm trying to forward incoming connections to a remote server/port. If I connect to localhost:forwarded port it works, but nothing remote can connect. |
| 12:14.35 | danielcristian | I'm trying to deploy Samba with many cities in one domain. |
| 12:14.43 | danielcristian | I didn't found any resource that explains how to use Samba with LDAP with users segmented in many ou's in a single Domain... |
| 12:14.54 | danielcristian | Is that possible? |
| 12:14.54 | pro_ | anyone heard or used freenx? |
| 12:14.59 | stew | asc: connections to what? |
| 12:15.00 | Shadur | smhar: That's two of the three packages you need, but you're missing the critical one - the actual drivers. |
| 12:15.00 | asc | e.g, 'nmap localhost' shows port 81 open, but 'nmap 10.255.150.2' (localhost) shows it closed. |
| 12:15.10 | abrotman | taneli: find it ? |
| 12:15.25 | abrotman | taneli: can you paste your entire /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 12:15.26 | abrotman | !paste |
| 12:15.26 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 12:15.32 | asc | Connections to port 81 on localhost to port 22 on remotehost |
| 12:15.54 | stew | asc: don't use nmap, use "netstat -plant | grep 81" to see which ip it is listening to, if it is only listening to 127.0.0.1 and not 0.0.0.0 then it would only accept connections from localhost |
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| 12:16.02 | stew | asc: how did you get it listening on port 81? |
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| 12:17.16 | cast|lir | danielcristian: #samba might be a good place to ask, too. nfi personally :> |
| 12:17.17 | asc | One second, things are slow. :p |
| 12:18.29 | Ace2016 | Anyone know when the ut3 linux demo is comming out? |
| 12:19.04 | asc | Okay, the command I use was "ssh -L 81:10.255.150.2:22 user@10.255.150.1", where 10.255.150.2 is localhost and 10.255.150.1 is the remote host. |
| 12:19.20 | Shadur | Ace2016: linuxgames.com will have the latest news soonest. |
| 12:19.40 | spq | it was a changed default value of PersistentPasswd... |
| 12:19.41 | danielcristian | cast|lir: Everyone is sleeping there... |
| 12:20.06 | asc | netstat -plant | grep 81 returns two lines. The first is "tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:81 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6122/2" |
| 12:20.13 | crm | that worked well.. thanks stew !! |
| 12:20.15 | danielcristian | on #ldap and #fedora-ds idem. |
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| 12:20.27 | Mrdini | hmmmmm..... if I've installed a window manager (fluxbox) before I'd installed xorg, is the window manager automatically enabled? (X appears to have started up, but not seeing any window maanager....yet) |
| 12:20.40 | smhar | ok.. all seems ok, the driver is loaded: ndiswrapper -l says: net5211 : driver installed device (168C:001C) present |
| 12:20.48 | asc | Mrdini: Try 'startx fluxbox' |
| 12:21.07 | Mrdini | asc, hmm |
| 12:21.27 | smhar | but when I reboot, will I be able to use the ethernet as well, the guide says I should also see: device (168C:001C) present (alternate driver: ath_pci) |
| 12:21.30 | Mrdini | asc, will wait a bit (the CPU's working, so maybe it's starting up _something_ :P) |
| 12:21.36 | Mrdini | ah ha! yeah |
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| 12:21.39 | Mrdini | (SLOW!) |
| 12:21.48 | asc | An alternative is to user xdm, which is a little less iffy than the startx command |
| 12:22.02 | stew | asc: you want "-L 10.255.150.2:81:localhost:22" or "-L 10.255.150.2:81:10.255.150.1:22" |
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| 12:23.24 | asc | That's... hm |
| 12:23.38 | stew | asc: the way you had it, you left off the first host, when defaults to localhost, and you had the second host as .1 meaning that when you connected to localhost:81, it should try to initiate a connection from .1 to .2 |
| 12:24.06 | taneli | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/39951 |
| 12:24.10 | stew | err... had the second host as .2 |
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| 12:24.26 | orlandoj | "spurious APIC interrupt on CPU#0, should never happen |
| 12:24.26 | ktne | hello |
| 12:24.39 | smhar | this is my blacklist file: http://paste.debian.net/39952 |
| 12:24.40 | orlandoj | someone can help me with this error |
| 12:24.41 | abrotman | taneli: which interface has the 169 address ? |
| 12:24.45 | ktne | in what packages is readline/readline.h ? |
| 12:24.51 | Nyle | is there any cli tool for debian/linux where you can just type a message and phone nubmer and send an SMS? |
| 12:24.52 | abrotman | !tell ktne about search |
| 12:24.54 | taneli | abrotman: frequently, all of them except lo |
| 12:25.02 | Nyle | I riht now have to go through websites like sms everywhere etc. |
| 12:25.02 | Shadur | ktne: I'm guessing readline-dev or something similar. |
| 12:25.09 | abrotman | taneli: well .. the only one not set to DHCP is usb0 |
| 12:25.18 | asc | Y'know, I've spent about 20 minutes banging my head against that name page. :p |
| 12:25.20 | taneli | abrotman: sounds about right |
| 12:25.31 | ktne | Shadur: no such package |
| 12:25.31 | orlandoj | "spurious APIC interrupt on CPU#0, should never happen" and the machine frozen after this |
| 12:25.33 | asc | stew: It's working. Thanks a lot. |
| 12:25.43 | abrotman | taneli: okay .. so if they can't reach a DHCP server .. they get a 169.254.x.x address |
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| 12:25.50 | stew | asc: you're welcome. that stuff is confusing, i know |
| 12:25.59 | taneli | abrotman: but they do that even if they get an address from dhcp |
| 12:26.00 | abrotman | though they aren't set to auto .. weird |
| 12:26.08 | ktne | libreadline5-dev |
| 12:26.13 | taneli | abrotman: and since i often need to change between eth0 and eth1 that drives me mad ... |
| 12:26.24 | asc | stew: I don't actually understand /why/, but I think it's probably a good idea to just copy that to my big lost o' useful commands and not question my luck. |
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| 12:27.14 | cast|lir | Nyle: sendxmpp and a jabber sms gateway perhaps? |
| 12:27.21 | Nyle | hmm |
| 12:27.35 | abrotman | taneli: i'd guess if they get that address .. it's not getting an IP from your DHCP .. try to dhclient <eth0|eth1> and see what happens |
| 12:27.37 | Nyle | I don't mind if it takes an hour to setup even, I just hate going throught those websites |
| 12:27.38 | cast|lir | the sms gatewall will cost you iirc, you buy blocks |
| 12:27.48 | Nyle | oh |
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| 12:27.54 | Nyle | I need fully free serice |
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| 12:28.24 | fuzzy_logic_ | hi people.. for some reason i'm not able to change the language of debian from dutch to english.. i choose english in dpkg-reconfigure locales to generate it and then select it, but then when i run for example aptitude update i get everything in dutch again.. how can i fix that? |
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| 12:29.37 | abrotman | fuzzy_logic_: did you logout/in ? |
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| 12:29.51 | fuzzy_logic_ | abrotman: no.. i have to do that? |
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| 12:30.03 | taneli | abrotman: the same as with ifup, it gets an address |
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| 12:30.16 | stew | new irssi in incoming |
| 12:30.17 | abrotman | laptop with pcmcia cards? |
| 12:30.33 | Nyle | ooo |
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| 12:31.14 | fuzzy_logic_ | abrotman: i logged out and in again, but still a lot of things are in dutch.. the half of the system is in english, half in dutch |
| 12:31.45 | abrotman | fuzzy_logic_: LANG=C <command> ? |
| 12:31.46 | taneli | abrotman: and then it gets overwritten by 169.254 |
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| 12:32.15 | fuzzy_logic_ | abrotman: still in dutch |
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| 12:32.25 | Nyle | i like new stuff |
| 12:32.26 | stew | taneli: its probably not overwritten, its probably just that the card has 2 ips, but ifconfig is only smart enough to tell you the first, "ip a" will list all of them |
| 12:32.35 | aspWork | using a fakeraid setup in windows, is there anything preventing me from using the "leftover" space on the disks to setup a software raid with debian? |
| 12:32.49 | Nyle | aspWork: no? |
| 12:32.58 | aspWork | ok, so that should work, or? |
| 12:33.10 | stew | aspWork: apt-cache show dmraid |
| 12:33.48 | taneli | stew: yeah, I kind of knew that, but it still defaults to 169.254 for outgoing connections and thus nothing works ... |
| 12:33.55 | aspWork | thing is, dm raid fails to install, it complains about not being able to create the swap space, on the other hand, perhaps i should try without |
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| 12:34.19 | stew | taneli: that is a problem with your routing table, then. show us the output of "ip a; ip r" |
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| 12:35.17 | aspWork | im gonna give dmraid another try |
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| 12:36.16 | g00se | Any way to Unix write between a terminal and someone with an X session (xfce4) or perhaps some other method of communication? |
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| 12:38.06 | fuzzy_logic_ | can anyone give me a default sources.list file that comes with a clean debian? i have a feeling mine is kind of fcked up |
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| 12:38.48 | Drgb | after the last dist-upgrade, gnome-panel and many other apps fail while loading and report a message saying they can't find "libgnomebreakpad.so". I've found out it's something related to bug-buddy, so I tried to uninstall it, but when I give 'apt-get remove bug-buddy' it states it's going to remove gnome also. Is there any way to solve this? |
| 12:39.23 | asc | fuzzy: Etch? |
| 12:39.41 | Drgb | (<-- sid) |
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| 12:39.51 | fuzzy_logic_ | asc: ye |
| 12:40.34 | hark | Drgb: gnome is just a metapackage |
| 12:40.47 | mike8 | Hi. Do someone know that hp will be supporting lenny in the near future on his proliant and blade system server? |
| 12:41.01 | asc | http://apex.homelinux.net/sources.list |
| 12:41.08 | Drgb | hm, so you think I can remove it and get some positive result? |
| 12:41.09 | asc | That one has the CD commented out though |
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| 12:41.12 | Nyle | mike8: when it goes stable, maybe/probably |
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| 12:41.47 | Drgb | ah, p.s.: is gnome-desktop-environment a transitional package also? |
| 12:42.25 | stew | Drgb: yes. you can run "dpkg -L gnome-desktop-environment" to see what files would get removed if you remove this package |
| 12:42.28 | fuzzy_logic_ | asc: thanks |
| 12:42.31 | asc | np |
| 12:42.38 | hark | Drgb: check the bts |
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| 12:42.51 | Drgb | ok thanks |
| 12:42.54 | Drgb | I'll try |
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| 12:43.03 | smhar | ok.. I installed the wifi driver for ndiswrapper rebooted but got only eth0! |
| 12:43.22 | th00ry | u need to modprobe it by hand |
| 12:43.25 | mike8 | Nyle: Can you tell me when lenny will be probably be stable? |
| 12:43.26 | hark | Drgb: there's an update to bug-buddy afaik which fixes the issue. |
| 12:43.33 | stew | mike8: certainly not |
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| 12:43.39 | th00ry | smhar: did u also install the inf files? |
| 12:43.43 | Drgb | hark, is it in the unstable repositories? |
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| 12:44.09 | smhar | th00ry, yes |
| 12:44.24 | mike8 | stew: some rough estimation? |
| 12:44.28 | stew | mike8: nope |
| 12:44.29 | th00ry | smhar: modprobe it then |
| 12:44.50 | smhar | th00ry, did that too |
| 12:45.03 | maxaki | Hello! I have some problem with installing ip3945d for my wireless connection, it says: maxaki:/home/maxaki# /etc/init.d/ipw3945d start |
| 12:45.06 | maxaki | * Not starting ipw3945 regulatory daemon, driver not loaded. |
| 12:45.09 | stew | mike8: whenever the green line hits the zero mark again: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 12:45.12 | hark | Drgb: yes, http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/b/bug-buddy/bug-buddy_2.20.1+dfsg-1/changelog |
| 12:45.31 | Drgb | ok thanks |
| 12:45.31 | hark | maxaki: did you install the firmware? |
| 12:45.33 | th00ry | smhar: still not loading up? any messages in dmesg ? is the interface possibly just disabled? |
| 12:45.36 | Drgb | I think I owe you a beer |
| 12:45.52 | maxaki | hark: wich? |
| 12:46.28 | hark | maxaki: /msg dpkg ipw3945 |
| 12:47.01 | stew | Drgb: are you running unstable? |
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| 12:47.10 | Drgb | yes stew |
| 12:47.11 | taneli | abrotman: found the culprit, it is network-manager-gnome |
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| 12:47.22 | taneli | abrotman: thanks for help |
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| 12:47.47 | stew | taneli: zeroconf is the package that gives you the zeroconf address, but it really shouldn't be causing the problem you are describing which is a problem with your routing table, not with your ip addresses |
| 12:48.16 | taneli | stew: never had zeroconf installed ... |
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| 12:48.54 | tralala | is there a way to prevent a faulty application from consuming all the available memory? Some sort of memory quota? |
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| 12:49.24 | taneli | stew: maybe it was avahi-autoipd, i removed that, too, apparently |
| 12:49.41 | bougi | hello. I try to install etchy on |
| 12:49.57 | mike8 | stew: Because i have heard that HP will be supporting lenny in 3 months. Have some heard something similar? |
| 12:50.29 | bougi | HP7700 and I get "assume root bridge [\_SB_.pci0] bus is 0" . there the boot before the iinstallation stops. any ides? |
| 12:51.06 | stew | mike8: i haven't. i can tell you with absolute certainty that lenny will not be stable in 3 months |
| 12:52.03 | smhar | th00ry, I followed this guide: http://paste.debian.net/39953 this is my dmesg: http://paste.debian.net/39954 |
| 12:52.12 | abrotman | taneli: that bastard! |
| 12:52.13 | stew | mike8: the top hit on google is: http://h20331.www2.hp.com/enterprise/cache/390110-0-0-0-121.html |
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| 12:53.32 | xjkx | is there a list of modems recommended for adsl connection ? |
| 12:53.50 | th00ry | smhar: weird... u tried to reboot? else, i don't know how to solvei t... it seems correct to me |
| 12:53.52 | mike8 | stew: thanks a lot. I already searched the page, but there was nothing to be found about it there. |
| 12:54.06 | xjkx | to know if debian supports it |
| 12:54.42 | smhar | th00ry, ok, I stand corrected. I checked Network Settings and it was there alongside the eth0, but 'unconfigured', so what to do? |
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| 12:55.08 | th00ry | smhar: u want to use wpa or wep or is the network u want to connect to unprotected? |
| 12:55.41 | smhar | th00ry, I would use it alot in coffee shops with wifi |
| 12:55.58 | th00ry | smhar: iwlist scan |
| 12:56.14 | th00ry | smhar: then get the preferred network's essid |
| 12:56.35 | th00ry | smhar: afterwards type: iwconfig wlan0 essid "<THE ESSID HERE>" (of course without the < and >) |
| 12:56.47 | th00ry | smhar: and in the end do a dhclient wlan0 |
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| 12:57.14 | taneli | stew: thanks & goodbye |
| 12:57.19 | taneli | abrotman: thanks & goodbye |
| 12:57.23 | smhar | th00ry, this whole thing one time, or everytime I want to connect?! |
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| 12:57.34 | th00ry | everytime u want to connect to a network |
| 12:57.54 | smhar | th00ry, because right now I did iwlist scan but got: wlan0 No scan results |
| 12:58.18 | th00ry | weird... |
| 12:58.29 | th00ry | are there any networks nearby? |
| 12:58.32 | maxaki | I have some problems with my ipw3945d driver, it says: maxaki:/home/maxaki# /etc/init.d/ipw3945d start |
| 12:58.35 | maxaki | * Not starting ipw3945 regulatory daemon, driver not loaded. |
| 12:58.49 | th00ry | maxaki: modprobe ipw3945 |
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| 12:59.22 | maxaki | th00ry: maxaki:/home/maxaki# modprobe ipw3945d |
| 12:59.23 | maxaki | FATAL: Module ipw3945d not found. |
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| 12:59.44 | th00ry | maxaki: without the d at the end |
| 12:59.57 | maxaki | maxaki:/home/maxaki# modprobe ipw3945 |
| 12:59.57 | maxaki | FATAL: Error inserting ipw3945 (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/contrib/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 13:00.00 | maxaki | 2007-10-17 17:00:14: ERROR: Could not find Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection |
| 13:00.01 | smhar | th00ry, I checked with my nokia 9300i but there doesn't to be any hotspot near |
| 13:00.13 | abrotman | maxaki: lspci .. what does it call it ? |
| 13:00.23 | th00ry | maxaki: then u havent got a ipw3945 i'd say |
| 13:00.29 | th00ry | smhar: k |
| 13:00.48 | maxaki | abrotman: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) |
| 13:01.48 | abrotman | that seems .. contradictory |
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| 13:02.18 | maxaki | abrotman: what u mean? i'm not pro on english :) |
| 13:02.33 | abrotman | seems like it should work |
| 13:02.55 | smhar | th00ry, so am I covered for wifi now? when I go to a hotspot and issue those command I should be connected, right? |
| 13:03.02 | th00ry | abrotman, maxaki: possibly because it is rev2 :D ? |
| 13:03.06 | th00ry | smhar: yes. |
| 13:03.17 | abrotman | !iwlwifi |
| 13:03.18 | dpkg | well, iwlwifi is the new driver for the Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets and can be found at http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi It doesn't need the binary regulatory daemon but is not easy to get to work with kernels older than 2.6.21 or so. It is not directly supported by Debian at present although the microcode is in the package firmware-iwlwifi. For a Debian howto, see http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/debian/iwlwifi |
| 13:03.27 | stew | because it is rev 2 there are unknown symbols in the kenrel module? |
| 13:03.50 | hark | maxaki: did you compile it? |
| 13:03.54 | stew | maxaki: how did you install the driver? |
| 13:04.04 | stew | (i have that same card working with 2.6.18-5) |
| 13:04.14 | stew | well i did with -4 |
| 13:04.20 | maxaki | i used aptitude |
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| 13:05.21 | Drgb | I updated bug-buddy, but gnome-panel and the other stuff keep failing |
| 13:05.32 | Drgb | same message, couldn't find libgnomebreakpad.so |
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| 13:06.03 | stew | Drgb: /msg dpkg apt-file ; find out which package provides libgnomebreakpad.so |
| 13:06.19 | Drgb | I already tried looking for it stew |
| 13:06.23 | Drgb | but I had no results |
| 13:06.23 | hark | bug-buddy does :) |
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| 13:06.32 | smhar | th00ry, maybe I should put those commands in a shell script |
| 13:06.34 | Drgb | apt-file search libgnomebreakpad.so gives nothing |
| 13:06.38 | xjkx | i didnt know where to ask, so: "when someone says his internet is 600 K, it downloads actually what, 60kb/s ?" |
| 13:06.41 | stew | Drgb: you ran apt-file update? |
| 13:06.52 | abrotman | xjkx: #networking .. and roughly .. yes |
| 13:06.53 | th00ry | smhar: then the essid would always have to be the same |
| 13:07.12 | abrotman | xjkx: remember you're mixing b and B |
| 13:07.28 | maxaki | abrotman: it doesn't work... =/ |
| 13:07.29 | Drgb | no stew |
| 13:07.31 | Drgb | I didn't |
| 13:07.38 | Drgb | I'll try now |
| 13:08.08 | abrotman | maxaki: how did you install the driver? |
| 13:08.10 | abrotman | !ipw3945 |
| 13:08.11 | dpkg | If you're running a recent version of Debian (etch or greater), do the following: add contrib and non-free entries in your sources.list and aptitude update; aptitude install ipw3945-modules-2.6-686 firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d; If you are not using the 686 kernel, replace the 686 with the kernel variant you are using (486) |
| 13:08.16 | chinasky | i´m trying to configure xserver in debian sid and i got this message: dexconf: error: cannot generate configuration file; shared/default-x-server not set |
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| 13:08.20 | smhar | th00ry, what if I can get in searched in the script and then piped to the next command |
| 13:08.54 | Drgb | lol, funny, it says bug-buddy uses it |
| 13:08.59 | Drgb | and I have bug-buddy installed |
| 13:09.03 | th00ry | smhar: should work |
| 13:09.20 | stew | maxaki: what version of linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 is installed? and what version of ipw3945-modules-2.6.18-5 is installed? |
| 13:09.45 | Drgb | hark gave me a link before, it was bug-buddy's changelog, and afaik they said libgnomebreakpad.so was disabled for some license problems, but there should be a way to install it |
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| 13:10.36 | maxaki | stew: Version: 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch2 |
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| 13:10.45 | maxaki | Version: 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch2 |
| 13:10.53 | Drgb | dpkg -L bug-buddy shows libgnomebreakpad.so, does it mean it's there? |
| 13:10.53 | dpkg | ii bug-buddy shows libgnomebreakpad.so, does it mean it's there 1.8-12 drgb's private porn collection |
| 13:11.35 | Drgb | ..what? |
| 13:11.40 | stew | maxaki: what about ipw3945-modules-2.6.18-5 ? |
| 13:11.44 | maxaki | stew: maxaki:/home/maxaki# aptitude show ipw3945-modules-2.6.18-5 |
| 13:11.44 | maxaki | E: Kunde inte hitta paketet ipw3945-modules-2.6.18-5 |
| 13:11.50 | maxaki | I haven't it installed |
| 13:12.02 | maxaki | Couldn't find the package |
| 13:12.02 | stew | maxaki: oh, how did you install the ipw3945 driver? |
| 13:12.09 | maxaki | nope, didn't work |
| 13:12.41 | stew | maxaki: oh, you need a -686 on the end of the package name |
| 13:12.53 | maxaki | stew: maxaki:/home/maxaki# /etc/init.d/ipw3945d start |
| 13:12.54 | maxaki | * Not starting ipw3945 regulatory daemon, driver not loaded. |
| 13:13.12 | stew | maxaki: what version of ipw3945-modules-2.6.18-5-686 do you have installed? |
| 13:13.32 | maxaki | stew: Version: 2.6.18+1.1.2-4+etch2 |
| 13:13.56 | stew | ok, those are both current |
| 13:14.12 | stew | maxaki: i dunno, try "depmod -a" and try modprobe again? |
| 13:14.22 | stew | i never know what the general solution to this problem is |
| 13:14.53 | maxaki | hmm... okay =/ damn |
| 13:15.07 | hark | maxaki: and what does dmesg say? |
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| 13:15.52 | smhar | ok.. it seems that vga problem is almost solved, wifi is solved, sound is not semi ok, .. then I have a 'workable' notebook with debian :-) |
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| 13:17.24 | smhar | now for the sound, I can seem able use the headphone. |
| 13:17.31 | maxaki | hark: http://pastebin.ca/739749 |
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| 13:18.18 | stew | oh |
| 13:19.28 | hark | iee80211 again.. maxaki did you try compiling it? |
| 13:20.19 | stew | if that is required then we should probably be distributing a ieee80211-modules-2.6.18-5-686 package |
| 13:20.56 | maxaki | hark, i downloaded it with aptitude precompiled |
| 13:21.20 | hark | i meant did you compile it yourself :) |
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| 13:22.01 | stew | maxaki: i'd recommend trying "aptitude install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211" if it still doesn't work, then i'd try also "m-a a-i ipw3945" |
| 13:22.15 | Fox_1_ | where is kernel include path? |
| 13:22.23 | Azx | how to turn off dmix i have sblive audigy afaik it already supports multiplie channels |
| 13:22.24 | hark | ieee80211-source is no longer there |
| 13:22.33 | stew | maxaki: and you'll need to install build-essential when you install module-assistant |
| 13:22.36 | stew | really? |
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| 13:22.45 | stew | !info ieee80211-source stable |
| 13:22.51 | stew | bah |
| 13:22.54 | smhar | a quick one: I know that I have use mount command recently and it is in my bash history, how to go directly to it instead of going back back back |
| 13:22.59 | stew | maxaki: nevermind me, then |
| 13:23.06 | stew | Fox_1_: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build |
| 13:23.17 | stew | Fox_1_: .../include |
| 13:23.23 | maxaki | wait |
| 13:23.37 | stew | perhaps just building ipw3945 then? |
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| 13:25.42 | hark | maxaki: /sbin/modinfo ieee80211 |grep version |
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| 13:26.42 | apt_get | Can z25_persistent-net.rules eliminates all fixed MAC, for interfaces that dont exists anymore, automaticaly? |
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| 13:26.58 | maxaki | stew, i', coming a hour... i'm in classroom.. bbl |
| 13:27.19 | chinasky | how can in know the bus id of my nvidia card? |
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| 13:29.06 | cab_ | hi |
| 13:29.16 | maxamillion | hello |
| 13:29.16 | smhar | alsaconf says the sound controller is: :hda-intel ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia, and it is conigured with no problems, but alsmixer only show 4 controls, Master, PCM, Caller I , and off-hook. Normally I see alot more, including the mic and headphone |
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| 13:29.31 | cab_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:30.21 | Drgb | reboot could do nothing. I really don't know where to smash my head |
| 13:30.35 | cast|lir | cab_: would it be better to make the service listen on 2525? |
| 13:31.05 | stew | cab_: which MTA are you using? |
| 13:31.29 | smhar | dmesg |grep sound is empty |
| 13:31.45 | stew | apt_get: z25_persistent-net.rules doesn't ever get purged automatically, if some nic no longer exists you have to clean that file by hand |
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| 13:32.06 | stew | smhar: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 13:33.28 | grendal_prime | i<grendal_prime> ok I need a vpn client for my palm to an openvpn server is this in existance |
| 13:33.39 | smhar | stew, 2.6.22-2-686, it had problem with ACPI so I booted with acpi=off noapic |
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| 13:34.19 | smhar | stew, but I had the same problem with 2.6.18-4 and -5 with ACPI enabled |
| 13:34.21 | jelly | grendal_prime: wow, you have debian running on a palm device? |
| 13:34.42 | Roy_M | Hi I am tryint to mount a Compact flash card to a debian systems and need a little help. I was under the impresion that it should be showing up in /dev ? |
| 13:35.37 | stew | smhar: you might need to find a newer version of alsa / or just the snd-hda-intel driver |
| 13:35.41 | stew | smhar: or wait |
| 13:35.49 | apt_get | stew: then, i need to make a script to clean z25 for all MAC that dont exists in DMESG.. its a nice choice? |
| 13:35.50 | grendal_prime | no I have palm running on a palm device. I keep having to remote into machines on the other side of a openvpn server |
| 13:36.33 | stew | apt_get: do you get new network hardware that often? |
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| 13:36.52 | smhar | stew, newer alsa than what is in lenny? |
| 13:36.59 | stew | smhar: right |
| 13:37.09 | grendal_prime | unfortunatly I have to vnc into the active session on those machines to illustrate how to do certain things |
| 13:37.21 | stew | apt_get: or are you wishing this whole thing didn't exist? you can disable this functionality completely if you like |
| 13:38.15 | grendal_prime | I need to vpn to the network so I can securly get to a number of machines on the other side |
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| 13:38.58 | smhar | stew, I will wait for a while then maybe search for a newer driver, I wouldn't want to use a packaged like alsa from sid |
| 13:39.02 | apt_get | srew: i like the capacity to fix a iface to eth0 or eth1 or eth2.... but i dont want make any change in hand.. because many cliets outside and far away |
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| 13:40.50 | apt_get | then.. disable it, is not what i want... i think to make a small script to compare MAC in z25 and DMESG, in write_rules routine.. If MAC dont exist in DMESG.. then i remove the respective line... |
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| 13:41.45 | smhar | ok, I want to build a 'virtual' client/server environment on my notebook, where apache and mysql are on one 'vm' and the my main computer or another vm is the client. it is to test things like 'drupal' and other internet stuff. what is the best to do this? vmware? |
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| 13:42.45 | cast|lir | smhar: vserver is probably the easiest way |
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| 13:43.05 | grendal_prime | vmware works good foe that |
| 13:43.27 | grendal_prime | look at virtualbox |
| 13:43.39 | abrotman | qemu would work |
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| 13:44.02 | grendal_prime | I use kqemu but I think virtualbox does to now |
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| 13:44.05 | aspWork | how do i set the root partition in the shell while installing debian, the installer wont do it for me when using dmraid? |
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| 13:47.04 | mindshif1 | has there been a major update for debian recently? |
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| 13:47.20 | Ronin | mindshif1: depends, when was the last time you did an update? |
| 13:47.27 | abrotman | and hwich version of debian |
| 13:47.37 | aspWork | anybody? |
| 13:47.52 | mindshif1 | was a long time ago, 1 year maybe |
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| 13:48.00 | abrotman | etch was released |
| 13:48.19 | apt_get | stew: then.. disable it, is not what i want... i think to make a small script to compare MAC in z25 and DMESG, in write_rules routine.. If MAC dont exist in DMESG.. then i remove the respective line... |
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| 13:48.36 | mindshif1 | the reason why I asked was that I wasn't sure if a new release will come soon, and that I should wait |
| 13:48.46 | smhar | abrotman, how come I have unsatisfied packages for qemu? |
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| 13:49.04 | abrotman | smhar: i have no idea .. you're not showing me an error or anything useful |
| 13:49.34 | smhar | abrotman, I meant do I need a special sources for that? |
| 13:49.47 | abrotman | show us the freaking error |
| 13:50.19 | mindshif1 | do debian patch packages? |
| 13:50.38 | abrotman | patch them for what? |
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| 13:50.53 | mindshif1 | bufixes |
| 13:50.54 | mindshif1 | bug |
| 13:51.00 | smhar | abrotman, The following packages have unmet dependencies: vgabios, bochsbios, proll, openhackware |
| 13:51.02 | abrotman | ideally |
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| 13:51.08 | Ronin | it international vaguness day or something? :) |
| 13:51.09 | abrotman | !info vgabios lenny |
| 13:51.15 | dpkg | vgabios: (VGA BIOS software for the Bochs and Qemu emulated VGA card), section misc, is extra. Version: 0.6a-3 (lenny), Packaged size: 75 kB, Installed size: 212 kB |
| 13:51.26 | abrotman | smhar: seems to be in main |
| 13:52.08 | abrotman | though i bet there's more to the error that you're not showing me |
| 13:52.13 | mindshif1 | so programs in debian might not be the same as if you where to download it from a source page? |
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| 13:52.26 | abrotman | right |
| 13:52.41 | Ronin | mindshif1: correct |
| 13:53.37 | mindshif1 | but do debian notify the software developers that made it, so that they could correct the problem and let everyone get the bug fixed? |
| 13:57.16 | wols_ | mindshif1: of course they do |
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| 13:57.23 | stew | mindshif1: it is up to the maintainer of the package to send patches upstream. most do. |
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| 13:58.21 | smhar | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/39962 |
| 13:58.23 | stew | mindshif1: if you go to "http://packages.debian.org/packagename" and click on a version, in the upper right of the page, there should be 3 files, a .dsc, a .orig.tar.gz and a .diff.gz. the .orig.tar.gz is the original version, and the .diff.gz contains the changes debian has made |
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| 13:59.03 | mindshif1 | ok |
| 13:59.27 | Ace2016 | Anyone know an app that use |
| 13:59.30 | Ace2016 | that mazx |
| 13:59.42 | Ace2016 | that maxes out the cpu and does tests on the system? |
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| 14:00.17 | themill | mindshif1: some of the debian changes for a package (in the .diff.gz) are only about how to compile the source and get it ready, but sometimes there are actual changes to the source too. |
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| 14:00.59 | mindshif1 | ah ok |
| 14:01.02 | themill | !tell Ace2016 about cpuburn |
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| 14:01.42 | Ace2016 | thanks |
| 14:01.44 | grub__ | hi, anyone using laptop, if yes can they please let me know the values they have for MaxTapTime and MinTapTime in their xorg.conf? |
| 14:01.50 | mindshif1 | but I still use archlinux, I like their simplicity when it comes to package management, but they don't have the same ammount of packages I guess |
| 14:02.08 | chinasky | hello, when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the list of the drivers don´t appears, thanks |
| 14:02.19 | themill | Ace2016: also see memtest: apt-cache search memtest |
| 14:03.27 | Ace2016 | yea i ran memtest, everything was fine |
| 14:03.50 | hark | chinasky: install xserver-xorg-video-all or xorg |
| 14:04.10 | smhar | abrotman, now you saw the full error message |
| 14:04.10 | chinasky | hark, thanks, i already installed xorg |
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| 14:05.38 | Shifty | hey all |
| 14:05.40 | benjamindees | hello, I'm wondering if someone can point me to a thorough description of the 'debian way' of building a kernel |
| 14:05.42 | Shifty | where can i find the mount log? |
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| 14:06.31 | hark | chinasky: and you chose yes to "Attempt to autodetect video hardware?" |
| 14:06.44 | abrotman | smhar: aptitude update .. try again ? |
| 14:07.26 | Shifty | how can i send a signal to a usb port that my external harddisk starts up? |
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| 14:07.29 | wols_ | benjamindees: /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/ will tell you |
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| 14:07.37 | themill | !tell benjamindees about make-kpkg |
| 14:07.43 | wols_ | Shifty: you shouldn't need to |
| 14:08.05 | Shifty | but if i want to mount sdb5 i get file or folder not found |
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| 14:08.18 | chinasky | hark: the command don´t ask for that |
| 14:08.51 | chinasky | i don´t knokw if i missed something in the kernel configuration |
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| 14:09.01 | wols_ | Shifty: check dmesg what device node your harddisk is |
| 14:09.31 | chinasky | hark: do you know how to specify the bus id of the card? |
| 14:09.41 | wols_ | chinasky: what debconf questioning level do you have set? |
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| 14:09.47 | nico__ | hi |
| 14:09.47 | wols_ | chinasky: usually irrelevant |
| 14:10.02 | Shifty | sdb:end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0 |
| 14:10.48 | smhar | abrotman, btw, this is my sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/39964 |
| 14:10.50 | Shifty | wols_: unable to read partition table |
| 14:10.53 | aspWork | i have a fakeraid with windows and a softraid with debian, somehow the install of grub failed, and i got error loading operating system, what should i do to fix this? |
| 14:10.56 | chinasky | wols: dont understand that, sorry, i just download the packages and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (sorry) |
| 14:10.59 | aspWork | afternoon wols |
| 14:11.08 | Shifty | wols_: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 976772992 |
| 14:11.09 | nico__ | if i recall correctly, you guys once told me that -testing's security support (updates) kinda sucked compared to -stable's... any idea how it compares to, say, ubuntu's? |
| 14:11.20 | abrotman | smhar: try adding another mirror .. maybe oyurs is out of sync |
| 14:11.33 | Shifty | wols_: so there are many entries with errors |
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| 14:11.54 | smhar | abrotman, did a an update but got nothing, I will try adding another mirror, thanks |
| 14:12.01 | Daveman | Good morning, abrotman :) |
| 14:13.00 | abrotman | hi |
| 14:13.43 | jelly | Ah, the age old question. host or bind9-host? |
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| 14:14.02 | nico__ | (oops, did i utter the taboo word?) ;-) |
| 14:14.11 | jelly | nico__: security? |
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| 14:14.58 | nico__ | jelly, nope, the other one (the one with lots of u's) |
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| 14:15.28 | hark | chinasky: does "dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg" give you the option? |
| 14:15.45 | chinasky | hark: let me see |
| 14:16.18 | nico__ | is -testing's really that bad? |
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| 14:17.11 | zmitya | hi all |
| 14:17.16 | nico__ | cause -stable simple doesn't have what i need, and i'd rather use -testing than ubuntu, except if its security support really sucks |
| 14:17.21 | Shifty | wols_: ? |
| 14:17.22 | zmitya | I don;t have manual page for ulimit ? |
| 14:17.33 | zmitya | which packege do I need ? |
| 14:17.44 | chinasky | hark: still the same.... |
| 14:17.54 | maxamillion | nico__: you will be fine, i ran testing for 4 years before there was any security support and everything was perfectly fine |
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| 14:18.30 | maxamillion | nico__: i never got hacked, it was a desktop machine that was left on 24/7 ... just make sure you don't have any services running that you don't need |
| 14:18.50 | maxamillion | nico__: and you might look into firestarter or custom rolling your own iptables config |
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| 14:19.18 | chinasky | hark: i´m reinstalling xserver... |
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| 14:21.12 | nico__ | maxamillion, ok thx |
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| 14:22.50 | chinasky | hark: i first installed xserver with apt-get, then i use aptitude purge to uninstall it and run aptitude install xserver-xorg and now works |
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| 14:23.01 | Shifty | can some 1 say me how i can fix that: http://pastebin.com/d3c4b1f92 ??? |
| 14:23.40 | Akira65 | Hi, i've a problem with "apt-get update". Can you help me ? |
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| 14:23.48 | Akira65 | I've this error : |
| 14:24.06 | Shifty | wich error? |
| 14:24.14 | Akira65 | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 14:24.14 | Akira65 | E: Error occurred while processing hugs (NewVersion1) |
| 14:24.14 | Akira65 | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/myhost:9999_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 14:24.14 | Akira65 | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened |
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| 14:24.31 | Akira65 | sorry for the past |
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| 14:24.38 | Akira65 | can you see the past ? |
| 14:24.41 | Akira65 | Shifty, |
| 14:24.49 | Shifty | yeah... |
| 14:24.50 | hark | Akira65: /msg dpkg dynamic mmap |
| 14:25.17 | hark | chinasky: yeah weird |
| 14:25.23 | Akira65 | hark, what's that ? i need to enter "dpkg dynamic nmap" command ? |
| 14:26.00 | abrotman | hi Daveman |
| 14:26.06 | hark | Akira65: it's an irc command |
| 14:26.14 | abrotman | !tell Akira65 about mmap |
| 14:26.17 | wezza | hi, I've been searching google but with no luck so far... which cd's do i need to complete the installation (offline) with the selections: standard / desktop / laptop? |
| 14:26.46 | Akira65 | weld, standard |
| 14:26.51 | Akira65 | wezza, standard |
| 14:26.58 | limpio | Akira65, check the APT-HOWTO section 7 |
| 14:27.08 | Akira65 | limpio, thanks |
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| 14:27.39 | Shifty | some1 knows a solution for that problem ---> http://pastebin.com/d3c4b1f92 ? |
| 14:28.25 | [dark] | I can't have my ncurses(aptitude) work with gpm,anyone can help? |
| 14:28.45 | Eulex | Shifty, that looks like either driver problems or a defect drive. |
| 14:28.53 | themill | !tell Akira65 about dynamic mmap |
| 14:29.03 | Shifty | Eulex: but it worked 20min ago... |
| 14:29.15 | wezza | Akira65, I want all of those 3 selections in the installation, but i can't figure out what cd's I need (i bet only no.1 isn't enough?) |
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| 14:30.49 | Eulex | Shifty, what happens after that? is that message repeated 'forever'? |
| 14:30.55 | Akira65 | limpio, with the APT-HOWTO: i added "APT::Cache-Limit 10000000;" in /etc/apt/apt.conf. I've the same error ! |
| 14:31.03 | Shifty | no Eulex thats the end of it |
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| 14:31.37 | [dark] | I can't have my ncurses(aptitude) work with gpm,anyone can help? |
| 14:31.44 | Eulex | Shifty, ok, did it get unmounted or what happens when you try to access data that is on the drive? |
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| 14:32.20 | Shifty | Eulex: i cant see anything... the folder where its mounted is empty |
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| 14:32.58 | The_SNiFF | how do i add a startup app? |
| 14:33.03 | Eulex | Shifty, is it still mounted? |
| 14:33.06 | The_SNiFF | should i use crontab @reboot? |
| 14:33.08 | Shifty | Eulex: if i type mout -a i get: Failed to access '/dev/sdb5': File or Folder not found |
| 14:33.24 | Shifty | Eulex: i think not :/ |
| 14:33.24 | Knight_Lord | If you had an input device producing data at 1Tb/s how would you analyze it? |
| 14:33.47 | SpeedyG | The_SNiFF: add it to your rc.d using update-rc.d |
| 14:33.48 | Eulex | Shifty, oh, the device disappeared? |
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| 14:33.50 | guk_ | I have a question ... how would I set a gateway as somthing non default using dhclient ? |
| 14:33.50 | SpeedyG | iric |
| 14:33.52 | SpeedyG | *iirc |
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| 14:33.55 | Shifty | yes... |
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| 14:33.58 | Eulex | Shifty, is it a removable drive? |
| 14:34.03 | Shifty | yes Eulex |
| 14:34.11 | Shifty | i only have /dev/sdb |
| 14:34.13 | Eulex | Shifty, try to reconnect it. |
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| 14:34.26 | Shifty | cant... its too far away ^^ |
| 14:34.40 | Shifty | otherwise i would :D |
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| 14:34.41 | Eulex | Shifty, I occasionally have similar problems with an external usb2 drive. I think there's some problem with the controller in it. |
| 14:34.50 | un4get | hi there |
| 14:34.55 | themill | !tell The_SNiFF about rc.local |
| 14:34.59 | Shifty | so reconnect should solve the problem? |
| 14:35.52 | The_SNiFF | themill its an irc server i want to run as user irc |
| 14:35.59 | Eulex | Shifty, it might, if something 'serious' didn't happen and it was just a driver or controller flux. |
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| 14:36.09 | abrotman | The_SNiFF: man su .. see the -c |
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| 14:36.26 | themill | The_SNiFF: write a proper init script for it if it doesn't already come with one. |
| 14:36.28 | Eulex | Shifty, is it an usb drive? |
| 14:36.38 | Shifty | Eulex: yes |
| 14:36.39 | un4get | im using debian 4.0 etch .. after some updates .. my sound going slow .. i turn my volume max .. feel like turn volume half .. |
| 14:36.58 | un4get | anybody has experience this ? |
| 14:37.29 | un4get | how to boost the volume back ? |
| 14:37.31 | Eulex | Shifty, oh, and if the box is too far away and it's important that the data on the drive is mounted, you could try rebooting it (that should have the same effect as reconnecting the drive) |
| 14:37.55 | Shifty | Eulex: did it a few times... no change |
| 14:38.05 | Eulex | Shifty, you get the same error at every boot? |
| 14:38.08 | Shifty | yes |
| 14:38.14 | Akira65 | themill, limpio, hark, yes !! it works !! thanks !! I added more cache to apt. |
| 14:38.18 | Shifty | its a little dumb drive |
| 14:38.31 | Eulex | Shifty, then I'm afraid something serious might have happened. |
| 14:38.41 | Shifty | if i dont access to it about 5min... it automatically turns himself off |
| 14:38.49 | un4get | !help volume |
| 14:39.05 | Shifty | so maybe the drive just dont want to turn on again ^^ |
| 14:39.06 | Eulex | Shifty, sounds very inconvenient for a server |
| 14:39.08 | un4get | !help sound |
| 14:39.10 | limpio | Akira65, i'm glad |
| 14:39.29 | Shifty | its my homepc with debian .. so not a real server :D |
| 14:40.40 | Shifty | Eulex: the wired thing is that i see the size of the drive and all other things (see pastebin) |
| 14:41.05 | un4get | anybody know where to get some tutorial about sound ? |
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| 14:41.25 | Eulex | Shifty, ...before it errors out |
| 14:41.32 | Eulex | Shifty, can you see the drive via lsusb? |
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| 14:42.02 | wezza | hi, I've been searching google but with no luck so far... which cd's do i need to complete the installation (offline) with these selections: standard system - desktop environment - laptop? |
| 14:42.08 | Shifty | Eulex: sec |
| 14:42.29 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 14:42.30 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. Also ask me about <cd contents sarge>. |
| 14:42.39 | Shifty | Eulex: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1058:1001 Western Digital Technologies, Inc. |
| 14:42.43 | limpio | un4get: google.com/linux? |
| 14:43.16 | un4get | limpio : thank 4 url .. i will google it :) |
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| 14:44.13 | Eulex | Shifty, so at least it didn't lose contact over the cable, it still has contact with the drive. which means that the case that the problem is due to the cable or usb2 interface is excluded. which means that worse things are more likely to have happened :/ |
| 14:44.31 | m4rz | hi how i can set crontab to execute a file 30 times per hour |
| 14:44.32 | m4rz | ? |
| 14:44.35 | m4rz | all hours |
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| 14:44.55 | Shifty | Eulex: that cant be... |
| 14:45.06 | Shifty | i hope ... it cant be... :D |
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| 14:46.16 | Eulex | Shifty, can you remove the external drive from the case? if so, when you get home, try putting it into a computer via its native ide or sata interface. if that's not possible, try connecting it to another computer via the usb2 interface |
| 14:46.37 | benjamindees | m4rz, set it to execute at minute 1, 3, 5, 7... 59 |
| 14:46.41 | wezza | abrotman, thx but that's a hell of a search :P |
| 14:47.06 | Shifty | Eulex: in 30 min i can tell some 1 to reconnect it ... maybe then the problem is solved |
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| 14:47.48 | un4get | hi again .. just newbies question .. is this ok "ctrl + alt + backspace" to restart ? |
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| 14:48.03 | azeem | un4get: restart what? |
| 14:48.12 | Eulex | Shifty, ok, I won't be here then, so ask the channel again and tell the new stuff you've learnt then. |
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| 14:48.49 | Shifty | yeah i will :D but thx 4 your help! |
| 14:48.53 | benjamindees | un4get, that will just restart the X server |
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| 14:49.02 | beardy | un4get: If you mean restart X, then yes. |
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| 14:49.19 | un4get | i don want to restart computer .. |
| 14:49.32 | beardy | un4get: Or rather.. restart your display manager. |
| 14:49.38 | benjamindees | un4get, and no, that's typically a last resort |
| 14:49.44 | azeem | un4get: doing that will not give your session or applications a chance to properly shutdown |
| 14:49.46 | un4get | oh i see .. ok then i can use "ctrl + alt + backspace" thank |
| 14:50.03 | Shifty | lol |
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| 14:50.04 | stew | un4get: exiting your window manager is a much "kinder" way of doing it |
| 14:50.12 | azeem | un4get: why don't you use the "logout" feature of your desktop environment or window manager |
| 14:50.22 | beardy | un4get: Why do you have to do it though? Can't you "logout" or "Exit" nicely? |
| 14:50.37 | un4get | i think ctrl + alt + backspace the faster way :) |
| 14:50.41 | Shifty | hes not a nice guy ... ^^ |
| 14:50.57 | un4get | ok then .. i use log out .. log in .. thank 4 info |
| 14:50.58 | Shifty | un4get: but its the dumb way... |
| 14:51.00 | beardy | It's not a good way. Not meant to be used like that. |
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| 14:52.05 | mano | hi there |
| 14:53.41 | mano | i'm experiencing troubles with my pcmcia wireless card... can i ask help? |
| 14:53.58 | themill | abrotman: that cd contents search is useless these days because every single lenny daily and weekly build is included now. Do you know of an etch-specific one? |
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| 14:54.13 | stew | mano: sure, be specific about what troubles you are having and what you have tried |
| 14:54.30 | stew | maybe i should resurect my cd search page |
| 14:54.44 | beardy | mano: Yes, just ask your question please, in the way stew said. |
| 14:55.37 | mano | well... i'm using elive on an old asus laptop... kernel 2.6.18-elive #2 SMP PREEMPT... |
| 14:55.51 | stew | mano: ask #elive |
| 14:55.56 | themill | stew: that might be an idea, unless there is some magic incantation that one can give to the one on debian.org to only show you etch packages (the lenny daily build search isn't that useful, it has to be said!) |
| 14:56.00 | Atalanta | i really like debian without any GUI or anything. is this natural/normal? |
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| 14:56.34 | stew | themill: remind me in like 7 hours when I'll actually have time |
| 14:56.51 | benjamindees | !cli |
| 14:56.52 | dpkg | i heard cli is a Command Line Interface, the best form of interface around, of course Call-Level Interface, originally developed by SQL Access Group, but now known as Microsoft's ODBC standard. an x86 assembly instruction Common Language Infrastructure (See mono or .net), or http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6282&page=1 |
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| 14:57.11 | un4get | hi guy . . my sound suck |
| 14:57.13 | themill | stew: heh... I hope to be tucked up in bed by them :) |
| 14:57.24 | Atalanta | ...? |
| 14:57.26 | mano | well i dont think it's because of the ditro... i had the same problem on xubuntu |
| 14:57.34 | Atalanta | so CLI is best for a lot of peopel? |
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| 14:58.03 | wols_ | !best |
| 14:58.03 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 14:58.15 | mano | by the way #elive told me to ask here |
| 14:58.19 | un4get | any step by step to configure sound 'volume' properly? |
| 14:58.22 | Atalanta | rather, its a lot of peoples preferred method of computing, over GUI? |
| 14:58.27 | wols_ | Atalanta: generally. servers are console only, while desktops have a GUI, even if only to run many many xterms at the same time |
| 14:58.47 | wols_ | mano: and we tell you to ask in #elive since we don#t support their distro |
| 14:58.47 | Atalanta | wols_: ah. so im abnormal i suppose |
| 14:58.59 | un4get | the system 'beep' sound much louder than my mp3 .. lol |
| 14:59.25 | themill | un4get: there's not much to configure, but if you've just installed a new kernel, then there might be an extra mixer now that wasn't supported in your previous kernel. Have a play with the levels, particularly on the PCM channel, by the sounds of it. |
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| 14:59.54 | themill | un4get: and use a simple tool like aplay rather than an mp3 player to diagnose such problems. |
| 15:00.22 | trpr | Atalanta: how do you view images / watch movies? you load an xserver or you do without? |
| 15:00.34 | Atalanta | well im using it in vmware as a c++ dev environment |
| 15:00.39 | Atalanta | with boost =D |
| 15:00.45 | Akira65 | Hi, i need help again ^_^ It's about ssh and -R option. |
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| 15:01.03 | un4get | oh the kernel .. maybe because 'updated' .. i will try aplay .. thank 4 info themill |
| 15:01.36 | Akira65 | my -R tunnel is opened, but i've "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" when i would like to connect to the -R tunnel (ssh tunnel, to 22 in the destination machine) |
| 15:01.52 | themill | un4get: if it was only a debian point release, that shouldn't be the case though. If you went from 2.6.18 to 2.6.22 or something then you might have such changes. |
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| 15:02.26 | Atalanta | what method is best to determine how much space is being used in debian, using CLI |
| 15:02.30 | Atalanta | *disk space |
| 15:02.41 | The_SNiFF | is the rc.local a simple bash script? |
| 15:02.42 | The_SNiFF | i mean |
| 15:02.49 | The_SNiFF | would su irc -c ircd work? |
| 15:02.51 | themill | Atalanta: df and du |
| 15:02.54 | Atalanta | thanks |
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| 15:03.04 | Atalanta | so just "df --human-readable" should show me? |
| 15:03.35 | trpr | Atalanta: thats long option. df -h |
| 15:03.46 | Atalanta | tx |
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| 15:04.07 | un4get | themill : i not understand totally what are you trying to tell .. becoz im a windows user .. i have get myself a debian 4.0 'etch' and trying to forget the crashing windows |
| 15:04.39 | themill | Atalanta: the "human readable" option just uses GB, MB and KB etc rather than very long numbers. It's not as if the other output without -h is only "machine readable" |
| 15:06.18 | Atalanta | i know |
| 15:06.23 | Atalanta | but thanks for trying |
| 15:06.57 | themill | un4get: That's ok. Welcome to Debian, by the way ;) A small kernel update from debian (like you installed) is unlikely to have broken your sound in that way. It's probably a levels question from the different channels on your soundcard's mixer. If you had chosen to upgrade your kernel to a newer version then the actual driver for your sound card may have changed. |
| 15:07.01 | un4get | themill : i has try this following command "aplay test.mp3" and the sound is suck .. no song / music .. like an old tv |
| 15:07.25 | themill | un4get: aplay only works with wav files. not mp3s. |
| 15:07.33 | themill | !moo |
| 15:07.33 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 15:07.51 | themill | un4get: if you have openoffice installed, then use that last line.... |
| 15:07.54 | un4get | themill : thank 4 info .. i will find a wav to trying again :) |
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| 15:10.55 | un4get | wav sound good .. but i hate slow sound .. :| |
| 15:11.36 | Ronin | slow sound? play a faster rock song then |
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| 15:12.54 | un4get | Ronin : i have turn all the volume max .. (volume control , speker .) still sound slow .. i wish i can sing :P |
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| 15:13.31 | Ronin | un4get: what do you mean by slow sound? |
| 15:14.11 | un4get | Ronin : i has turn up volume max .. but it sound slow in my speker .. |
| 15:14.23 | Ronin | ahh low |
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| 15:15.17 | un4get | the first install .. the volume are very great .. after an update (i dunno what the update actually are .. ) the sound goes slow.. |
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| 15:16.57 | un4get | the first startup .. i just turn speaker volume half .. and it sound boom boom .. now i turn the speaker "FULL" .. the sound slow then the first .. should i reformat ? |
| 15:17.20 | Ronin | un4get: reformat just because your sound isn't loud enough? not really good idea |
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| 15:18.37 | un4get | Ronin : i understand that .. but music is important to me.. hmm nevermind .. i will keep trying .. |
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| 15:19.24 | Ronin | un4get: make sure nothings muted, i know your speakers are cranked but im thinking things liks amix, or is it aumix |
| 15:19.37 | Ace2016 | how long does an xserver take to compile? |
| 15:20.20 | un4get | Ronin : that i never check .. thank 4 info .. i will find it |
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| 15:22.41 | alex_ | hmm is there anyway via debian to downgrade to a previous version of a package, i need to downgrad util-vserver from 0.30.214 too 0.30.213 - with maybe apt-get - or do i have to compile from source? |
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| 15:24.35 | themill | !tell alex_ about downgrade |
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| 15:25.50 | un4get | guy what desktop enviroment is best in debian ? Gnome ? KDE ? |
| 15:26.58 | beardy | un4get: The one you like best. Also have a look at all the other window managers. |
| 15:28.08 | un4get | beardy : what are using now ? i think i like KDE look .. but i got Gnome .. maybe it default after fresh install ? |
| 15:28.25 | beardy | un4get: No. X is not default. |
| 15:28.40 | Ronin | beardy: default when you install x |
| 15:28.48 | beardy | Ronin: What? |
| 15:28.58 | beardy | Neither is default when you isntall X.. just X. |
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| 15:29.18 | un4get | how do i change to KDE ? |
| 15:29.18 | beardy | un4get: I prefer windowmaker. |
| 15:29.24 | beardy | !install kde |
| 15:29.25 | dpkg | i heard install kde is In sarge/etch/lenny, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 15:29.33 | Ronin | beardy: is not the default gnome when you install x? been a long time since ive done a new install |
| 15:29.52 | beardy | Ronin: No.. why would it? |
| 15:29.56 | asmarin | how i can configure ircd-hybrid only for send wiki modifications to irc server channel? |
| 15:30.05 | un4get | beardy : windowsmaker look wierd to me .. :) |
| 15:30.13 | un4get | !install kde |
| 15:30.14 | dpkg | well, install kde is In sarge/etch/lenny, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 15:30.15 | beardy | Ronin: If I want to isntall X, I want to isntall X, not a dektop environment. |
| 15:30.36 | Ronin | beardy: stop being unnecessarily ar :) |
| 15:31.00 | un4get | guy how to start install KDE ? simple guide please |
| 15:31.17 | themill | un4get: aptitude install kde |
| 15:31.17 | Ronin | !kde |
| 15:31.18 | dpkg | i guess kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde, or ask me about <kde_trouble>, or to get KDE, ask about <install kde> |
| 15:31.35 | un4get | themill : thank you very much :) |
| 15:32.04 | beardy | un4get: It really says just there.. 'aptitude install kde' for everything, 'aptitude install kde-core' for slightly less things and so on. |
| 15:32.18 | beardy | Ronin: ar? |
| 15:32.26 | Ronin | anal retentive |
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| 15:32.46 | beardy | I'm not. |
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| 15:33.02 | jelly | hi, does anyone have an idea how to speed up sshfs working with lots of small files? I'm working around misconfigured imapd by accessing Maildir over sshfs. |
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| 15:33.33 | beardy | I was just saying, and hoping, that logic still exists in the packages. |
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| 15:33.47 | un4get | beardy : thank 4 the info too .. im install it now :) |
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| 15:35.12 | beardy | un4get: You're welcome. If you run Gnome now, you are probably running gdm, the graphical login screen? When you have isntalled it you can select either Gnome or KDE then. Also if kdm is installed instead. |
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| 15:37.53 | un4get | beardy : yes it Gnome .. noted ! after this i will use KDE .. one thing .. how do i remove Gnome after his ? |
| 15:38.03 | jelly | !remove gnome |
| 15:38.04 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about <install gnome>), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
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| 15:38.26 | jelly | xfce ftw ;-) |
| 15:38.26 | un4get | thank jelly |
| 15:39.38 | defused | [noob question] i just installed etch and because it didn't find my windows partition it installed grub on MBR and now i can't boot my windows partition, thats what my disks are like http://pastebin.com/m5ca78f5c could someone please help or post any links about that issue |
| 15:40.27 | Ace2016 | Anyone know how to solve this compile error http://pastebin.com/d3cc7a1f4 |
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| 15:42.25 | Ronin | Ace2016: why are you compiling? |
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| 15:42.37 | jelly | Ronin: note the "xgl" bit |
| 15:42.51 | Ronin | ack |
| 15:44.52 | Serajewe1KS | defused: it always installs to the MBR |
| 15:44.55 | themill | so the question is why doesn't CVS HEAD compile.... |
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| 15:45.35 | defused | Serajewe1KS: could you help me on how to add the windows partition on grub and make it boot ? |
| 15:45.52 | beardy | !tell mano -about away |
| 15:46.01 | themill | beardy: he's gone |
| 15:46.03 | SerajewelKS | defused: did you google it? |
| 15:46.04 | Ronin | question still is why are they compiling i think considering what they did earlier :) |
| 15:46.06 | Ace2016 | Ronin: i want xgl |
| 15:46.06 | beardy | (Yes, I dont' care.) |
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| 15:46.37 | themill | !tell defused about dual boot guide |
| 15:47.04 | defused | oups |
| 15:47.05 | defused | thanks |
| 15:47.43 | themill | defused: they are well-written, step-by-step guides on that site... they might help you get from where you are to where you want to be... |
| 15:50.43 | defused | actually they are pre installation guides, i have already done the installation and probably i did (or didn't) do something wrong and i have to fix that :/ |
| 15:50.54 | defused | but they could be helpfull 10x |
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| 15:50.59 | wols_ | Ace2016: didn't the repo for debian work? |
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| 15:51.03 | py_ | hello |
| 15:51.25 | un4get | defused : throw away the windows :P |
| 15:51.26 | wols_ | defused: you need to edit your menu.lst |
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| 15:51.48 | Ace2016 | wols_: repo got a working xgl but when compiz runs it shows just a white screen, i think the xgl in the repo might be too old |
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| 15:52.07 | Xteven | hi |
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| 15:52.12 | un4get | my windows alway crash and crash .. what a disaster .. :) |
| 15:52.28 | Xteven | can anyone verify that the bugzilla package in etch is broken ? I can't install it: /var/lib/dpkg/info/bugzilla.postinst: line 107: /etc/bugzilla/dbconfig-params: No such file or directory |
| 15:52.38 | un4get | Xteven : hi too :) |
| 15:52.49 | Xteven | :) |
| 15:53.00 | Ace2016 | How do i find out which deb contains: renderproto.h |
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| 15:53.20 | defused | wols_: i edited it several times with no luck :/ i keep getting that crappy makeactive error 12: invalid device requested |
| 15:53.28 | Xteven | Ace2016: dpkg -S /some/file |
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| 15:53.39 | py_ | I've a box which may be hard shutdown (power loss) at any time. A solution to avoid damage if it happens would be a Read only fs. But it needs r/w access to some data. What filesystem can cope gracefully with such shutdowns? |
| 15:53.42 | orlandoj | after install Debian, the startup stop in the message "Running local boot script (/etc/rc.local). |
| 15:53.44 | wols_ | defused: something like this http://paste.debian.net/39969 |
| 15:53.47 | Xteven | Ace2016: or use apt-find or sth |
| 15:53.56 | wols_ | defused: what device did you set for it? |
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| 15:54.16 | wols_ | !tell Ace2016 about search |
| 15:54.20 | orlandoj | why it don't finish the startup process |
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| 15:54.22 | orlandoj | ? |
| 15:54.36 | defused | wols_: i have posted my fdisk output |
| 15:54.40 | defused | wols_: http://pastebin.com/m5ca78f5c |
| 15:54.42 | wols_ | orlandoj: what is in your rc.local? did you put anything in there? |
| 15:54.51 | orlandoj | no |
| 15:54.58 | defused | it looks messy :( |
| 15:55.01 | wols_ | defused: I didn't ask for your fdisk output. I asked what device you put into your menu.lst |
| 15:55.10 | orlandoj | the file contains an exit 0 commented |
| 15:55.15 | orlandoj | # exit 0 |
| 15:55.28 | wols_ | why is it commented? |
| 15:55.30 | defused | wols_: hda(0,1) hda(0,0) hda(0,5) |
| 15:55.50 | wols_ | defused: that's still no answer. what device did you write into your menu.lst for windows |
| 15:55.59 | orlandoj | wols_, # exit 0 |
| 15:56.03 | wols_ | last not least: there is NO "hda" for grub. ever |
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| 15:56.11 | wols_ | orlandoj: that's not what I asked |
| 15:56.40 | wols_ | defused: and which of those ntfs partitions is actually the one that's supposed to boot? |
| 15:56.42 | orlandoj | i don't know |
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| 15:56.59 | wols_ | orlandoj: don't comment it out |
| 15:57.11 | themill | orlandoj: hint: it didn't comment itself out... |
| 15:57.21 | Ace2016 | ok so now i know its a part of x11proto-render-dev, but i'm trying to compile my own xserver, so i'm guessing there is another part to the xserver that i've not compiled already, do i need the latest libx11 or something? |
| 15:57.23 | orlandoj | wols_, ok, i'll uno and restart |
| 15:57.27 | beardy | py_: I'm not sure any can, perfectly gracefully.. Maybe if you look into making it write out data (much) more often, sync more often, if it's possible. Then a fsck "shouldn't" have any problems in that case.. |
| 15:57.42 | defused | wols_: sorry on 1st question (hd0,1) (hd0,5) (hd0,0) |
| 15:57.48 | wols_ | Ace2016: build-dep is a great apt command. awesome even |
| 15:57.56 | defused | wols_: 2nd there is only one NTFS partition |
| 15:57.59 | Ace2016 | x11-proto-render seems like a part of a bigger package, anyone know what that is? |
| 15:58.05 | wols_ | defused: this is NOT what I asked. answer my question or not at all please |
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| 15:58.18 | un4get | defused : how many hdisk you have there ? you got a lot of hdisk .. cool |
| 15:58.35 | orlandoj | i'll reboot the machine |
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| 15:58.51 | beardy | py_: Just use ext3? You should of course make daily backups, or as often as you need, too then. If you expect power loss like that. |
| 15:58.53 | py_ | beardy: ok. But I suppose that journalized fs (reiserfs, ext3) are naturally more suitable for such a task to start with, aren't they? |
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| 15:59.17 | beardy | py_: Yes, they are. |
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| 15:59.21 | Ace2016 | i've already ran apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg, i'm guessing i'm going to have to recompile whatever x11proto-render-dev is a part of |
| 15:59.22 | netcrash | Hello, how can I determine using linux commands the version of sata the machine is using ? Is it possible ? |
| 15:59.35 | themill | defused: pastebinning your menu.lst might be helpful at this stage since you aren't answering questions precisely enough. |
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| 15:59.50 | Ace2016 | oh wait maybe apt-get source will get me the whole thing |
| 15:59.52 | orlandoj | it stopped in the same point. "Running local boot script (/etc/rc.local)." |
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| 16:00.08 | wols_ | Ace2016: no |
| 16:00.14 | beardy | py_: But don't use reiser, use ext3.. |
| 16:00.34 | wols_ | py_: unless you have a good reason to use reisetr |
| 16:00.35 | un4get | maybe defused need more info .. i think .. defused : just copy /boot/grub/menu.lst to here :) |
| 16:00.37 | wols_ | -t |
| 16:00.39 | py_ | beardy: well, I agree with you on the backup point. But what if it's not possible? Eg, the filesystem is to be used in an appliance (eg TV recorder) , which may get disconnected at any time, What would be the solutions in such a case? |
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| 16:00.42 | Ace2016 | well it got me this: dpkg-source: extracting x11proto-render in x11proto-render-0.9.3 so now i have to find what this is a part of |
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| 16:02.08 | beardy | py_: Why would you cut the power just like that? Make it shut down nicely, if it's some kind of consumer box..thing. |
| 16:02.09 | py_ | beardy, wols_: are they obvious reasons to choose ext3 over reiserfs (or the other way round), or is more a complex question? |
| 16:02.21 | Ace2016 | ok so packages.debian told me "This package is built from the X.org renderproto proto module." |
| 16:02.38 | beardy | py_: Yes. Ext3 is better. |
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| 16:03.02 | defused | menu.lst http://pastebin.com/m79bd25b5 |
| 16:03.17 | maxamillion | does anyone know of a package for debian (any branch) that would be equivalent to ubuntu's network-manager-pptp? |
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| 16:03.37 | beardy | py_: ;) But that is how it is.. I'm sure you can read a lot of both of them and make your own opinion if you want though. |
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| 16:03.40 | maxamillion | i don't see one in the repositories and the only place i find packages are for ubuntu or opensuse |
| 16:04.15 | py_ | beardy: I agree with you for the shutdown thing. But in such a case (consumer box) it *will* happen that at some time the box won't get properly shut down. But it definitely has to survive this. |
| 16:04.19 | wols_ | defused: great. your debian and your windows are on the same partition according to your menu.lst. ever thought why it wouldn't work? |
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| 16:04.35 | deny[all] | hi, someone knows some solution to the issue with Xorg on SID and the keyboard lights? |
| 16:04.42 | wols_ | py_: do you have any reason to use a special filesystem? |
| 16:04.51 | wols_ | !btssmite deny[all] |
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| 16:06.30 | beardy | py_: Then I'm not sure what hardware, or filesystem you should use really.. What you would do first is to limit the rw data as much as possible first atleast I suppose.. |
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| 16:06.52 | Ace2016 | How do i find out what version of xorg i have? |
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| 16:07.14 | Ace2016 | X --version didn't help and the version convension in synaptic is rather confusing |
| 16:07.21 | py_ | wols_: no, no particular reason, apart the search for the most robust option in such a situation. I told about a TV recorder box, but it may well be a network router appliance, which needs rw access to its logs, and so one. Lots of example can be found |
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| 16:07.30 | wols_ | Ace2016: dpkg -l xserver-xorg and you will know |
| 16:07.31 | deny[all] | wols_ it's easy say "I don't" |
| 16:07.43 | beardy | py_: No, you log to a stable machien then. |
| 16:07.56 | wols_ | !tell deny[all] about unstable |
| 16:08.00 | wols_ | read this and understand this |
| 16:08.08 | beardy | py_: And a router is never shutdown like that.. |
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| 16:08.48 | py_ | beardy: think more like "a kind of SOHO router". I'm sure you see what I mean ;-) |
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| 16:09.10 | wols_ | py_: the question is LONG answered. use ext3, done |
| 16:09.20 | deny[all] | wols_ thanks for your help you are a very good helper :) |
| 16:09.44 | archie1 | is there any tutorial/guide to get stac9200 audio card working on debian, the ones for other distros dont work with debian |
| 16:10.02 | beardy | py_: I think that is the best answer you'll get yes. Use ext3 and be happy. Also look at the hardware of those routers that runs a linux system, see what they use for rw data, and filesystem. |
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| 16:10.26 | beardy | py_: The openwrt or what the name is now again.. |
| 16:10.39 | Ace2016 | wols_: yes that is the version i saw in synaptic, so does that mean its version X11R7.2-RC2/ or what? i'm looking here and there is no 7.3 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/development/ |
| 16:10.39 | wols_ | beardy: they use flash. not applicable here for a full PC with a harddisk |
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| 16:10.57 | py_ | beardy: that's what I'll plan on doing. Was just looking for some comments and opinions ;-) Thanks you very much for your |
| 16:11.09 | beardy | wols_: Well, we don't know what he means really. A tv recorder like that may very well have flash then. |
| 16:11.52 | wols_ | Ace2016: recording TV onto flash? |
| 16:11.57 | beardy | py_: You're welcome. Good luck. |
| 16:11.58 | wols_ | surely you jest |
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| 16:12.11 | beardy | wols_: No.. the important rw data, the system. |
| 16:12.21 | cahoot | archie1: seems you need the latest available alsaversion - directly from alsa-project.org |
| 16:13.06 | py_ | wols_: thanks for your comments on that matter |
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| 16:14.30 | cartesian1984 | So, I did a killall5 and made my system hang (if you can call it that) a little while ago, and upon rebooting, mpd, quotlibet, and firefox do not work properly. Firefox hangs whenever I try to view a flash video, quodlibet hangs when I try to play a song, mpd start refusing connections two or three minutes into a song. I have no idea what might be causing this unexpected behavior. Could it be related to damage to my encrypted root files |
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| 16:15.32 | archie1 | cahoot: i installed it but still no sound |
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| 16:16.38 | cahoot | archie1: so you have removed the kernel-provided alsamodules and now use the ones you compiled yourself? |
| 16:16.39 | Ace2016_ | ok i'm back |
| 16:16.40 | archie1 | cahoot: i also install fglrx for my ati card and ran aticonfig ... but i dont seem to be getting opengl either |
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| 16:17.03 | Ace2016_ | and i found xserver 7.3, but why is there a 1 in front? |
| 16:17.04 | cartesian1984 | (this is a relatively new disk too btw, could it be hardware failure?) |
| 16:17.15 | archie1 | cahoot: i deleted all the alsa/sound files in /etc/modprobe.d/ and ran alsaconf to generate its own |
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| 16:17.44 | archie1 | do i actually need to uninstall alsa modules first? |
| 16:17.44 | xand | cartesian1984: check dmesg for errors... are you using debian as there is no firefox in debian? |
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| 16:18.00 | h3sp4wn | archie1: If I was you I would get alsa-source from sid and do a uupdate to alsa-driver 0.15) |
| 16:18.04 | cartesian1984 | xand: oh, my mistake, iceweasel. |
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| 16:18.19 | cahoot | archie1: seems like good advice |
| 16:18.30 | archie1 | h3sp4wn: i tried the one from testing and it didnt work let me see if the sid one will work |
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| 16:18.39 | archie1 | they were the same versions anyways.. |
| 16:18.42 | robboplus | does anyone know what package iostat is in? |
| 16:18.54 | h3sp4wn | archie1: Infact if you can wait 20 mins or so I will do it anyway (I use an out of tree alsa by choice) |
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| 16:19.03 | h3sp4wn | but I am using 1.0.15-rc3 atm |
| 16:19.12 | robboplus | n/m got it |
| 16:19.18 | archie1 | h3sp4wn: what will you do? |
| 16:19.26 | cast|lir | ive come to very much like dtach [think of it as a cut down screen] |
| 16:19.31 | h3sp4wn | archie1: apt-get source alsa-driver |
| 16:19.52 | archie1 | h3sp4wn: i need 1.0.15-rc3 with the sigmatel patch which i can send to you |
| 16:20.00 | h3sp4wn | archie1: uupdate ../alsa-driver-1.0.15.tar.bz2 -v 1.0.15 |
| 16:20.13 | archie1 | huh? |
| 16:20.20 | archie1 | i can wait 20 min |
| 16:20.35 | archie1 | h3sp4wn: can i send you the files with the patch via email? |
| 16:20.48 | h3sp4wn | archie1: ok |
| 16:21.00 | h3sp4wn | archie1: I will pm you my email address |
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| 16:21.37 | Hypnos_ | hi, is there a way to tell apt-get to forget about upgrading a package (i apt-get install) |
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| 16:23.01 | Ace2016_ | YAY! i compiled renderproto 0.9.2 and now xorg is using that |
| 16:24.02 | cartesian1984 | xand: I don't see anything particular to filesystems in there, but then again, I'm not sure that's it. Things about my CD drive, because that appears to be dying, but I think that's the CD drive and not the box in general. |
| 16:24.48 | Hypnos_ | well, lets explain it better :) if i run apt-get -f install it wants me to upgrade libc6, however i want to do that later... |
| 16:25.16 | cartesian1984 | xand: er, by 'the box in general', I mean some core component. |
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| 16:29.38 | biopyte | hm ... |
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| 16:31.04 | Atalanta | it turns out that CLI is freaking fun for dev purposes |
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| 16:33.00 | ManuP | is there a list with the supported chipsets of the mainboards? |
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| 16:34.05 | kie27 | greetings all, my debian laptop was recently rooted, i have reinstalled but kept the old logs, this is the first time i have had a debian box hacked and am not a happy bunny :( |
| 16:34.52 | kie27 | have got firestarter firewall running along with a 3g connection, and have already have 4 events classified as serious |
| 16:35.19 | zoredache_ | kie27: the interweb is a wild and dangerous place |
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| 16:35.58 | stray | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.06 | kie27 | yes, i have the harden packages installed, plus ran bastille, don't play network games, but i still got cracked, |
| 16:36.07 | kie27 | no |
| 16:36.13 | kie27 | am running debian sarge |
| 16:36.19 | kie27 | oops i mean etch |
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| 16:36.44 | zoredache | how do you know you got rooted? what where you seeing? |
| 16:37.02 | stray | kie27: mmm, well unless you know that, you may still be vulnerable. cmptr forensics can be interesting to some.. |
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| 16:37.52 | _Sam-- | hey i tried to install a new package, which in turn wanted apt to update my perl.....and i let it... |
| 16:37.55 | _Sam-- | now i get: Errno architecture (x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi-2.6.16-1-vserver-amd64-k8) does not match executable architecture |
| 16:38.07 | _Sam-- | any idea how to fix...all my perl stuff is assed |
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| 16:38.17 | kie27 | i saw entries like Oct 14 07:50:09 lime su[5336]: Successful su for nobody by root |
| 16:38.28 | kie27 | Oct 14 07:50:09 lime su[5336]: + ??? root:nobody |
| 16:38.44 | _Sam-- | cast|lir : full message: Errno architecture (x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi-2.6.16-1-vserver-amd64-k8) does not match executable architecture (x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi-2.6.18-1-amd64) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/Errno.pm line 11. |
| 16:39.16 | _Sam-- | cant do anything with perl -MCPAN -e shell, either. |
| 16:39.25 | cast|lir | _Sam--: i presume you're not running stable? |
| 16:39.36 | kie27 | unfortunately i am using a direct 3g card connection and i am getting hammered with attacks. |
| 16:39.40 | _Sam-- | its an older amd64 sarge installation |
| 16:39.41 | hark | !nobody |
| 16:39.41 | dpkg | hmm... nobody is a user account commonly found on systems. It has reduced privs. Some daemons are run in this account. These days, most daemons create their own account, with reduced privs. |
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| 16:40.38 | cast|lir | kie27: thats normal eh |
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| 16:41.00 | _Sam-- | and when i try now apt-get install perl, it says i have the latest. |
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| 16:41.35 | kie27 | cast|lir: my log entry is normal? |
| 16:41.38 | cast|lir | there was amd64 in sarge? |
| 16:41.43 | cast|lir | kie27: yeah, i've got em :) |
| 16:41.59 | _Sam-- | i think at the time, it was just amd64, a seperate base |
| 16:42.01 | cast|lir | kie27: runs everyday |
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| 16:42.14 | winn2 | i am trying to upgrade a new debain etch server from php5.2.0 to 5.2.4, can anyone offer the best solution |
| 16:42.29 | hark | cast|lir: not officially supported |
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| 16:43.01 | _Sam-- | it later became just x86_64 |
| 16:43.17 | _Sam-- | but nonetheless, i have a nonworking perl, still. |
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| 16:43.26 | _Sam-- | and am looking for any suggestions. |
| 16:43.29 | hark | winn2: try backports |
| 16:43.40 | cast|lir | _Sam--: id upgrade to etch :) |
| 16:43.43 | wAndyw78 | why is nvidia-kernel-source missing in lenny? Tried also msg dpkg nvidia_post_etch, but... /etc/apt/sources.list is like "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free" |
| 16:43.54 | _Sam-- | wow, wonderful advice. |
| 16:44.06 | cast|lir | _Sam--: it is. etch is stable. |
| 16:44.25 | _Sam-- | so is my box...its only been up for 362 days now |
| 16:44.32 | _Sam-- | i dont have any problem with my box, or administering them. |
| 16:44.35 | _Sam-- | i need help with perl. |
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| 16:44.41 | h3sp4wn | archie1: Which patch does it need just the one for 1.0.15-rc2 ? |
| 16:44.41 | _Sam-- | and why apt-get messed it up |
| 16:44.50 | cast|lir | _Sam--: haven't been doing kernel security updates eh |
| 16:44.57 | _Sam-- | i make my own kernels. |
| 16:45.05 | _Sam-- | and compile nearly all my own apps |
| 16:45.10 | hark | !why is nvidia-glx not in testing |
| 16:45.11 | dpkg | nvidia-glx is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx |
| 16:45.15 | hark | wAndyw78: ^ |
| 16:45.22 | cast|lir | in the last 362 days there have been multiple kernel security issues |
| 16:45.22 | _Sam-- | if you can find a security hole on my system i'll pay you a thousand USD. if you cant, you pay me. |
| 16:45.26 | alex_ | can someone download test this for me and tell me what speeds they get: http://87.118.112.90/apache2-default/test.iso -> can someone from USA please test this |
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| 16:45.54 | _Sam-- | i have compiled my own kernels -- upgrading to etch does nothing in that regard, for me. |
| 16:46.11 | _Sam-- | i just want help with my perl apt-get situation. if you dont know the answer, just say as much. |
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| 16:46.38 | wAndyw78 | hark: Thank, i thing the bot should point from "dpkg nvidia_post_etch" to this article |
| 16:46.46 | wAndyw78 | tahnks, i think :-) |
| 16:46.49 | wAndyw78 | argh |
| 16:47.05 | Ronin | wow another fun day i see here |
| 16:47.42 | Eulex | _Sam--, if perl wants a 2.6.18 kernel or newer, that means that you have managed to drag in parts of etch or current testing. |
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| 16:47.53 | Eulex | _Sam--, stop doing that. it _will_ break. |
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| 16:47.59 | cast|lir | / /ignore -time 3600 is the answer to most problems :) |
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| 16:48.54 | _Sam-- | stop compiling my own kernels, or letting perl update itself? |
| 16:48.57 | Eulex | cast|lir, yes, there was an unofficial amd64 version of debian for sarge. |
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| 16:49.02 | Eulex | _Sam--, mixing releases. |
| 16:49.07 | wAndyw78 | hark: okay, so I should use the nvidia binary installer? |
| 16:49.11 | _Sam-- | i think it has to do with my sources |
| 16:49.19 | Hypnos_ | what kernel-image should i use on a dual xeon system? (-686?) |
| 16:49.27 | _Sam-- | can i change my sources and get my perl working? |
| 16:49.27 | Eulex | _Sam--, of course it has to do with your sources. |
| 16:49.34 | Eulex | _Sam--, what does apt-cache policy perl say? |
| 16:49.43 | un4get | hi guy .. i just successfull install KDE .. just easy question .. howto add "Home" in the desktop ? |
| 16:49.47 | h3sp4wn | archie1: answer the above question and don't send any more pm's |
| 16:50.13 | _Sam-- | Eulex: http://www.pastebin.ca/739994 (thnk you) |
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| 16:50.18 | Eulex | _Sam--, yes, but be aware that there is no way to downgrade, and as you've upgraded partly to something that is not etch, the least painful way of getting it to work might be to upgrade to etch. |
| 16:50.20 | h3sp4wn | archie1: all I have applied is the patch for 1.0.15-rc2 |
| 16:50.36 | archie1 | yeah for the driver |
| 16:50.39 | archie1 | thats all i need |
| 16:50.42 | archie1 | the sigmatel |
| 16:50.43 | Eulex | _Sam--, you're mixing sarge and lenny. |
| 16:50.51 | archie1 | the script tells you how to install it manually |
| 16:50.53 | _Sam-- | i needed a package out of testing a while ago :/ |
| 16:51.11 | h3sp4wn | archie1: http://openwrt.vcp-springe.de/experimental/h3sp4wn/alsa-source_1.0.15-0_all.deb |
| 16:51.18 | archie1 | h3sp4wn: patch alsa-driver-1.0.15rc1/alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c < patch_sigmatel.c.patch-1.0.15rc1-simple |
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| 16:51.22 | Eulex | _Sam--, installing something from lenny on a sarge box is highly risky. |
| 16:51.26 | archie1 | h3sp4wn: thanks a lot! |
| 16:51.41 | _Sam-- | it worked fine, that is not the trouble. the trouble was i forgot to switch my sources back. |
| 16:51.43 | h3sp4wn | archie1: I used the rc2 one but should be ok still |
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| 16:52.04 | h3sp4wn | archie1: (presuming the patch isn't broken) |
| 16:52.07 | archie1 | is it just the driver or utils and lib as well? |
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| 16:52.30 | h3sp4wn | archie1: forget utils and lib you really don't want to do that unless you absolutely have to |
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| 16:52.36 | Eulex | _Sam--, also, you should not even _attempt_ adding testing sources on a sarge box without at least setting default-release to sarge. optimally, you shouldn't do it at all and if you really need something from a newer release, download it and dpkg -i it. but that's totally at your own risk too. |
| 16:52.43 | archie1 | i see |
| 16:52.55 | h3sp4wn | archie1: I did once and it caused more sound issues than I had previously |
| 16:53.02 | archie1 | h3sp4wn: are the old ones compatible with the new driver? |
| 16:53.04 | h3sp4wn | (whereas just updating the driver fixed my issue) |
| 16:53.07 | Eulex | _Sam--, in any case, I'd suggest upgrading to etch as it has an official amd64 release. sarge didn't. |
| 16:53.10 | h3sp4wn | archie1: yeah |
| 16:53.15 | archie1 | great |
| 16:53.20 | archie1 | thanks for everything |
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| 16:53.53 | h3sp4wn | archie1: the thing is all the applications are compiled against the alsalib in the repos |
| 16:54.10 | _Sam-- | this is a production box that runs nearly our entire office here. im not comfortable upgrading it. can you suggest any other way to fix the perl |
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| 16:54.27 | archie1 | h3sp4wn: i just install alsa-source that you uploaded? |
| 16:54.33 | archie1 | dpkg -i ? |
| 16:54.44 | Eulex | _Sam--, yes. (1) remove that perl from testing (2) install the one from sarge |
| 16:54.47 | h3sp4wn | archie1: yep then do m-a a-i alsa |
| 16:54.55 | archie1 | ok |
| 16:54.57 | _Sam-- | apt-get remove perl? |
| 16:55.02 | _Sam-- | change source, apt-get install perl? |
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| 16:55.20 | Eulex | _Sam--, yes. with all it means. what depended on perl will also be uninstalled. that's intentional. |
| 16:55.37 | _Sam-- | grrr bye bye spamassassin |
| 16:55.39 | h3sp4wn | archie1: perhaps alsaconf still wont work but udev finds it pretty much anyway |
| 16:55.49 | archie1 | ok |
| 16:56.02 | _Sam-- | thank you for the help, sorry for being a dumbass. it happens. |
| 16:56.13 | h3sp4wn | and that alsa-source just worked as I updated my alsa-modules |
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| 16:56.46 | kie27 | cast|lir: the entries were at different times everyday, 12:54:15, 07:50:09, 07:35:36, 00:49:07 is that still normal? btw the first page i read was at linux questions.org which said you're hacked so i may have come to the wrong conclusion then. |
| 16:56.52 | Eulex | _Sam--, also, as cast|lir told you, you should really upgrade to a newer kernel. many security problems discovered. apart from that, I'm not really up-to-date of how good security is in sarge. I assume security fixes are still provided for it. |
| 16:56.58 | snowbird | how do use lightscribe on k3b |
| 16:57.15 | capiira | anyone here use rt2x00? |
| 16:57.17 | _Sam-- | im very up to date with security. i check cert nearly daily. |
| 16:57.25 | _Sam-- | i dont run many debian packages, nearly all from source. |
| 16:57.31 | snowbird | does lightscribe work? |
| 16:58.08 | cast|lir | kie27: changing times certainly seems suspect, |
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| 16:58.36 | h3sp4wn | capiira: Not on Debian (but I do use it with openwrt) |
| 16:58.55 | Eulex | _Sam--, you manually patch your 2.6.16 kernel when velnerabilities are discovered? |
| 16:59.19 | capiira | does it limit the download to +/-100 KB/s for you too ? |
| 16:59.34 | kie27 | ok, so maybe it was the right conclusion! btw since i have been connected (and talking on xchat) firestarter has pegged 50 inbound events, 7 marked as serious. is there anything that i can do about it (i have denyhosts installed), or just wait and hope? |
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| 16:59.40 | _Sam-- | if cert reports vulnerabilities that are accessible through my firewall, i compile a new kernel. there have been no remote kernel exploits on cert that i am aware of for quite some time. |
| 16:59.54 | _Sam-- | and i dont run 2.6.16 |
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| 17:00.06 | bjoernb_ | hi |
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| 17:00.18 | capiira | in debian the rt2x00 dont even show if its 11 48 or 54 |
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| 17:00.34 | baron__ | exit |
| 17:00.35 | archie1 | why isn't pm accepted in here? :) |
| 17:00.36 | baron__ | exit |
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| 17:00.47 | archie1 | *pming |
| 17:00.49 | _Sam-- | if you find some on cert.org, please point them out to me. |
| 17:00.59 | capiira | and i cant get the legancy rt61 to work with wpa2 |
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| 17:01.53 | cast|lir | kie27: how does it define serious, an incoming syn? i wouldn't pay much head to it, unless you have services running on that interface, then disable em |
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| 17:01.53 | archie1 | h3sp4wn: is it possible to upload a script that generates the .deb pkg that you created? |
| 17:01.53 | bjoernb_ | i got a sun ultra sparc 10. i downloaded a debian lenny netinst iso and put it on cd. i booted from cd and got a install menu whether i wanted a normal installation, expert or rescue. so i prompted normal. it was loading the kernel, the initial ramdisk and then prompting illegal instruction. |
| 17:02.05 | winn2 | how can i search for backports apt-cache -t etch-backports search "php" does not seem to work, am i missing something. I have put the backports.org in my sources list |
| 17:02.06 | h3sp4wn | archie1: I didn't use a script (I gave you the commands before) did it work |
| 17:02.28 | cahoot | kie27: your fw reporting the portscan freenode makes when you log in? |
| 17:02.33 | archie1 | no not m-a but the actual steps to creat the .deb file |
| 17:02.43 | archie1 | its running |
| 17:02.49 | _Sam-- | Eulex: can you tell me what would the proper apt sources for my AMD64 distro? |
| 17:02.52 | archie1 | i am just curious for future references |
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| 17:03.02 | cahoot | kie27: s/log in/connect/ |
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| 17:03.20 | un4get | can i update latest alsa driver ? and howto do it ? any deb packages ? |
| 17:03.36 | Eulex | _Sam--, apt-setup will get you some. |
| 17:03.57 | h3sp4wn | capiira: I am not using the rt61 one (only the 2500pci) and it seems to work pretty well |
| 17:04.02 | un4get | !help alsa driver |
| 17:04.06 | Eulex | _Sam--, note that those sources are unofficial, as sarge amd64 is unofficial. pure debian mirrors will in most cases not work. |
| 17:04.12 | archie1 | un4get: http://openwrt.vcp-springe.de/experimental/h3sp4wn/alsa-source_1.0.15-0_all.deb |
| 17:04.15 | archie1 | there you go |
| 17:04.17 | kie27 | just checking the documentation on firestarter website, it portscan by freenode is not reported as serious, so many entries already just trying to find if it is there .... |
| 17:04.18 | capiira | ah ok |
| 17:04.21 | archie1 | give thanks to h3sp4wn |
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| 17:04.29 | un4get | archiel : thank you :) |
| 17:04.45 | h3sp4wn | archie1: read about uupdate and apt-get source (I did it manually) |
| 17:04.51 | archie1 | ok |
| 17:04.57 | _Sam-- | thank you for your help |
| 17:05.02 | h3sp4wn | archie1: (its part of devscripts) |
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| 17:05.17 | spq | whats the meaning of versions ending with +b1? |
| 17:05.24 | spq | (debian package versions) |
| 17:06.05 | h3sp4wn | archie1: man uupdate (I uncompressed 1.0.15 applied the patch and then uupdated and then used debuild -uc -us to make the new alsa-source.deb) |
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| 17:07.33 | tt | Hejö |
| 17:07.37 | tt | Hejö |
| 17:07.49 | _Sam-- | Eulex: if i copy all the things to a file that apt-get remove perl is going to remove, i can then install them all in one fell swoop again later? |
| 17:08.11 | winn2 | does this mean php5.2.4 because the current version is 5.2.-8+etch7 -- |
| 17:08.14 | Eulex | _Sam--, yes, assuming they are in sarge. |
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| 17:08.35 | _Sam-- | all my previous configs for everything removed will still remain? |
| 17:08.57 | h3sp4wn | archie1: / un4get : If you don't want to build the drivers for all alsa cards (and you know the name of the driver you want you can edit /etc/alsa/alsa-source.conf (i.e I use ALSA_CARDS="ice1724") makes it quicker to build |
| 17:09.05 | ^alien | hi, setting shell /usr/sbin/nologin disallows ftp logins too? |
| 17:09.10 | Eulex | _Sam--, yes. configs are just removed if you purge the packages, a simple remove will not remove the configs. |
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| 17:09.24 | _Sam-- | thank you again for the help, and hand holding. it is sincerely appreciated. |
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| 17:09.50 | un4get | h3xp4wn : thank for info :) |
| 17:10.10 | tt | Anyone here know what the default key for channel switching in weechat is? |
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| 17:11.53 | spq | i wwant to write a smapp function in php to determine if one package version is newer than another package version |
| 17:11.57 | Sup3rkiddo | anyone know why single quotes appears as â in konsole?, |
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| 17:12.21 | kie27 | cahoot: irc.freenode.net portscan not reported when i connect assuming that i am correctly assuming ip 64.161.255.20 |
| 17:12.21 | h3sp4wn | un4get: I guess you know to build it with module-assistant (m-a) (should be ok when it goes into debian also as I used 1.0.15-0 (and the debian one would be 1.0.15-1 but if it breaks ... etc) |
| 17:12.37 | ^alien | why setting login shell to /usr/sbin/nologin disallows ftp logins too? |
| 17:13.01 | _Sam-- | Eulex: do i need to purge the list of available packages before connection to a new apt source? i only want packages from the new stable source to be available |
| 17:13.21 | Eulex | _Sam--, no, you just need to apt-get update. |
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| 17:13.25 | _Sam-- | when i did apt-cache showpkg, after connecting to stable, it still seemed to show the same perl pkg |
| 17:13.37 | _Sam-- | i did apt-get update prior to apt-cache showpkg |
| 17:14.05 | kie27 | cast|lir: serious is apparently 'A possible attempt to access a non-public service.' |
| 17:14.32 | kie27 | they say 'Firestarter suggests you should pay special attention to these entries.' |
| 17:14.46 | Eulex | _Sam--, right, as it's not uninstalled. also, what is currently cached on your local box will also be shown there, but will have a very low priority so it won't ever be installed if you don't explicitly choose to. |
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| 17:16.06 | Eulex | _Sam--, anyway, I gotta go, cya |
| 17:16.12 | _Sam-- | thank you for your time. |
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| 17:16.41 | nadar | hi there |
| 17:17.51 | maxamillion | hello nadar |
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| 17:18.01 | un4get | h3sp4wn : please tell me more .. step by step .. a simple guide plz |
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| 17:19.41 | cast|lir | kie27: if i were you i'd just focus on having no services open to the outside, that way it doesn't matter if there's a 'A possible attempt to access a non-public service.' from firestarter every 3 seconds, there's nothing there that they can connect to no matter how much they try |
| 17:20.33 | FastPutty | where od i go to change the welcome root password |
| 17:20.37 | FastPutty | i mean welcome root message |
| 17:20.47 | kie27 | cast|lir: yes that is good advice, i am just looking through my services now |
| 17:20.49 | wols_ | !motd |
| 17:20.50 | dpkg | rumour has it, motd is the Message Of The Day, or /etc/motd |
| 17:21.11 | petemc | shouldnt that mentioned /etc/motd.tail ? |
| 17:21.17 | petemc | s/ed// |
| 17:22.50 | cast|lir | :'<,'>s/^/# / oh how i love vim :) |
| 17:23.11 | Eulex | ... I first though that was a smiley :) |
| 17:23.22 | Eulex | *thought |
| 17:23.32 | Eulex | anyway, now I'm really off. |
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| 17:28.42 | elenril | when trying to compile a c program, i get undefined reference to `sin` from linker |
| 17:28.55 | elenril | any ideas what is missing? |
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| 17:30.02 | _Sam-- | cast|lir : if i can pull a perl binary off a backup from yesterday, does that fix my problem? |
| 17:30.08 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:30.42 | jonathan1 | hola debianites... |
| 17:30.47 | jonathan1 | i have a simple question... |
| 17:31.09 | jonathan1 | i want to create a menu item that launches a shell script in a terminal emulator in Fluxbox |
| 17:31.43 | jonathan1 | what command-line do I use to launch a terminal emulator and tell it to execute a script when it appears? |
| 17:31.51 | jonathan1 | i have Konsole and Gnome Terminal and Xterm |
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| 17:32.21 | _Sam-- | #fluxbox |
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| 17:32.47 | jonathan1 | fine |
| 17:32.58 | nkuttler | jonathan1: man <term> should tell you, -e for xterm iirc |
| 17:33.07 | benjamindees | yeah just check the manpage |
| 17:33.10 | _Sam-- | sorry that isnt much of an answer. i actually used to know. i built a solid state fluxbox appliance last year |
| 17:33.16 | icy | Heya, my backspace key is behaving like the delete key when used inside screen. Anyone with a clue how to solve that? |
| 17:33.18 | maxamillion | jonathan1: that would be a question for #fluxbox, as _Sam-- said, but just to give you some directon i believe you are looking to make an entry in the menu.conf file (i don't remember where it is, i haven't run fluxbox in a few years) |
| 17:33.38 | jonathan1 | alrighty |
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| 17:33.57 | maxamillion | jonathan1: lemme see if i can't find you a link to some docs on the subject |
| 17:34.04 | jonathan1 | thanks |
| 17:34.08 | nkuttler | fluxbox in debian uses the debian menu system too btw... just that you know |
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| 17:34.47 | _Sam-- | ~/.fluxbox/menu |
| 17:35.41 | jonathan1 | i've gotten to the menu and edited it |
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| 17:35.43 | maxamillion | jonathan1: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook/en/html/c741.html |
| 17:35.52 | jonathan1 | gracias |
| 17:35.57 | _Sam-- | this has some good info, too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371144 (not ubuntu related) |
| 17:35.58 | jonathan1 | brb |
| 17:35.58 | maxamillion | jonathan1: np |
| 17:36.05 | Mrdini | hmmm, anyone know of a *nix developer channel? a bit like #macdev |
| 17:36.18 | petemc | #language |
| 17:36.22 | gonzaloaf_work | hi where can I see a detailed list of error when installing with dpkg -i ? |
| 17:36.27 | petemc | replace language appropriately |
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| 17:36.40 | Mrdini | hmmm.... it isn't reallly a language-specific issue, I don't think so |
| 17:36.53 | Mrdini | oh well, never mind, will figure out myself |
| 17:36.59 | petemc | thats the spirit |
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| 17:37.15 | nkuttler | gonzaloaf_work: what's the error? |
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| 17:38.16 | gonzaloaf_work | nkuttler, post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 17:38.32 | nkuttler | gonzaloaf_work: check the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 17:38.41 | Mrdini | petemc, hah :P (trying to run a very niche app that comes with somewhat sketchy instructions for installing & running it so :P) |
| 17:39.02 | petemc | Mrdini: if its debian, you could ask here |
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| 17:39.25 | winn2 | simple quesiton, when running dselect, how do you serach within the interface, is it possible? |
| 17:39.26 | Mrdini | petemc, the app isn't debian - it's from a .tar.gz :P |
| 17:39.49 | petemc | Mrdini: right, but if you're running it on debian you could still ask |
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| 17:40.19 | nkuttler | winn2: /, but why don't you use aptitude? |
| 17:40.27 | _Sam-- | cast|lir : do you know if i can fix my problem using backups? |
| 17:40.44 | dserban | What's a good channel to discuss linux routing, policy and NAT? I have a debian box that needs to handle some routing functions, but I'm a noob, and google is being bad to me. |
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| 17:41.02 | petemc | dserban: #lartc on oftc |
| 17:41.14 | petemc | or here, i guess.. |
| 17:41.22 | dserban | petemc: thanks! now... I have to figure out what the actual oftc address is ;) |
| 17:41.38 | petemc | irc.oftc.net |
| 17:41.44 | dserban | danke! |
| 17:41.46 | petemc | np |
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| 17:41.52 | Mrdini | aw heck, what the hell..... I'm trying to run an app called nano-X - it errors out on some fonts stuff... along the lines of fonts being missing |
| 17:42.01 | Mrdini | (bringing up the machine right now) |
| 17:42.07 | petemc | Mrdini: you would need to say exactly what it says it missing |
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| 17:42.11 | petemc | ah.. |
| 17:42.17 | gonzaloaf_work | nkuttler, wow its s very long script |
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| 17:43.27 | Mrdini | petemc *nods* |
| 17:43.32 | linkslice | I'v been fighting with trying to set up postfix with dkim, anyone else done this? I don't know why I'm fighting with it. |
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| 17:44.44 | nkuttler | gonzaloaf_work: put a set -x at the top |
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| 17:45.49 | TrueDD | hi all |
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| 17:47.24 | gonzaloaf_work | nkuttler, what for? |
| 17:47.31 | abrotman | !tell jeff_hann about away |
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| 17:47.52 | _Sam-- | Eulex : how might i fix my problem using backups from yesterday? |
| 17:47.57 | hyper___ch | hello, I just upgrade an old sarge to etch but one package refuses being (dist)-upgraded: libcrypto++-dev --> any idea? |
| 17:48.44 | Eulex | _Sam--, of what do you have backups? |
| 17:49.08 | Eulex | hyper___ch, define 'refuses' |
| 17:49.38 | _Sam-- | i have the entire machine on amanda |
| 17:49.43 | abrotman | Eulex: throws a hissy-fit and refuses to leave the McD's PlayLand |
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| 17:49.45 | hyper___ch | Eulex: apt-get tells me: |
| 17:49.45 | hyper___ch | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 17:49.45 | hyper___ch | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.57 | abrotman | hyper___ch: aptitude install libcrypto++-dev |
| 17:50.00 | Eulex | abrotman, of course |
| 17:50.03 | _Sam-- | i can recover any files, or directories easily |
| 17:50.06 | andinator | hi @ all |
| 17:50.07 | ShiftOnYou | how can i solve that problem: http://pastebin.com/d77bd432e ??? |
| 17:50.17 | nkuttler | gonzaloaf_work: help set. reinstall the package |
| 17:50.46 | _Sam-- | or alternatively i could compile a new perl from source |
| 17:50.55 | _Sam-- | im not sure, though, if that fixes my issue. |
| 17:50.59 | ShiftOnYou | Eulex: are you still here? |
| 17:51.21 | Eulex | _Sam--, you could do that, basically recover all files that are in the perl package (check which ones are in there) and also recover apt's and dpkg's database. |
| 17:51.28 | hyper___ch | abrotman: that worked... but why didn't apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade not update it? |
| 17:51.32 | Eulex | _Sam--, in any case, where did my suggestion fail? |
| 17:51.34 | kie27 | thanks all, bye |
| 17:51.50 | _Sam-- | i didnt try your suggestion, yet, out of worry about breaking too many critical packages |
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| 17:51.57 | monokrome | Hi |
| 17:52.05 | _Sam-- | i definitely cant do it mid-day. |
| 17:52.11 | monokrome | I have created a RAID array of two drives |
| 17:52.16 | monokrome | mirrored |
| 17:52.31 | monokrome | But it shows as 2 drives instead of just 1 in debian installer? |
| 17:52.34 | Eulex | _Sam--, another possibility would be a real downgrade. |
| 17:52.40 | xand | monokrome: created how? |
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| 17:52.43 | solar_ant | hi all |
| 17:52.49 | stew | does anyone know if there is a way to do the equivalant of aptitude -d from the frontend? |
| 17:52.54 | Shifty | some 1 knows a solution 4 that problem ? ----> http://pastebin.com/d77bd432e |
| 17:52.57 | solar_ant | what is the default user and group for apache in debian |
| 17:53.03 | Shifty | www-data |
| 17:53.06 | monokrome | xand: In the RAID controller's configuration utility |
| 17:53.13 | solar_ant | I installed dtc which messed the setting , trying to fix it right |
| 17:53.17 | xand | monokrome: must be a problem with the raid controller |
| 17:53.19 | solar_ant | Shifty: both user and group ? |
| 17:53.21 | Eulex | _Sam--, change your sources to be sarge ones, and apt-pin them to have a higher priority than the already installed ones. then apt-get install the packages in question. |
| 17:53.26 | solar_ant | Shifty: must be .. thanks :) |
| 17:53.26 | Shifty | solar_ant: yes |
| 17:53.28 | xand | monokrome: it's usually better to use software raid anyway |
| 17:53.29 | monokrome | hmm... |
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| 17:53.34 | Shifty | sure |
| 17:53.35 | Mrdini | aw heck, what the hell..... I'm trying to run an app called nano-X - it errors out on some fonts stuff... along the lines of fonts being missing "pcf_createfont:/root/fonts/truetype/xxxxx.ttf,20 not found" |
| 17:53.46 | Mrdini | and "fnt_createfont:/root/fonts/truetype/xxxxx.ttf,20 not found" |
| 17:54.03 | _Sam-- | eulex, thank you for coming back to answer a ?....there is no easy directory to restore like /usr/local/share/perl/* or something easy? |
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| 17:54.06 | monokrome | xand: Why's that? |
| 17:54.15 | abrotman | hyper___ch: i'd have had to have done more research instead of juts giving you the fix :) |
| 17:54.30 | Mrdini | like I said earlier, not really debian-related :/ |
| 17:54.34 | Eulex | _Sam--, no. |
| 17:54.36 | hyper___ch | abrotman: so you have no clue either why it didn't work with upgrade ;) |
| 17:54.44 | xand | monokrome: if your raid card fails you need an identical one to rescue the data |
| 17:55.00 | monokrome | hmm. |
| 17:55.07 | Shifty | some 1 ? |
| 17:55.24 | xand | software raid is easily and there's an option in the installer to set it up |
| 17:55.26 | xand | for / |
| 17:55.29 | monokrome | xand: Can you set up software RAID in debian installer? |
| 17:55.32 | _Sam-- | Eulex: can you tell me which files comprise the apt databses? |
| 17:55.32 | monokrome | oh |
| 17:55.33 | monokrome | ok cool |
| 17:55.47 | monokrome | thank you :] |
| 17:55.48 | winn2 | is it possible to use apt to install to a specfic location ie. --with-prefix=/some/dir? |
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| 17:56.35 | benjamindees | I can't see any benefit to hardware raid mirroring; perhaps some controllers can do writes faster or something |
| 17:56.57 | abrotman | hyper___ch: nope .. not off the top of my head |
| 17:57.21 | abrotman | benjamindees: battery backups .. gets the load off the CPU .. might be faster |
| 17:57.33 | hyper___ch | abrotman: well, thx for the fix... but I'm still buffled... as it was installed on sarge it should just have been sufficent to upgrade or dist-upgrade |
| 17:57.51 | abrotman | hyper___ch: yeah .. that's why i just told oyu the fix :) |
| 17:57.57 | winn2 | ahh i am an idiot, dohh i just could have grabed the source |
| 17:58.07 | hyper___ch | abrotman: next time I'll remember :) |
| 17:58.14 | abrotman | !tell hyper___ch about held back |
| 17:58.20 | abrotman | that might yield some clues |
| 17:58.20 | Eulex | _Sam--, I'm a little unsure, but it's at least /var/lib/apt and /var/libg/dpkg. note that you also have to restore _everything_ that was changed since then in terms of installed packages and their versions. so you would probably not only need to restore perl. |
| 17:58.20 | monokrome | xand: With software RAID, if one of the drives fails, what happens? :x |
| 17:58.23 | _Sam-- | benjamindees hardware raid kind of makes part of the point of raid useless. using raid is normally for fault tolerance. if you use a hardware raid controller you are back to a single (unlikely) point of failure. |
| 17:58.26 | monokrome | with RAID 1 |
| 17:58.39 | abrotman | same as with hwraid |
| 17:58.42 | monokrome | awh |
| 17:58.43 | monokrome | sweet. |
| 17:58.45 | robboplus | can you control make a process stop using virt mem? |
| 17:58.49 | xand | monokrome: the other drive is usable on it's own; just replace the other one |
| 17:58.51 | robboplus | err can you make* |
| 17:58.53 | hyper___ch | abrotman: thx :) good to know for the future |
| 17:58.56 | monokrome | Thank you :] |
| 17:59.02 | abrotman | hyper___ch: enjoy! |
| 17:59.13 | xand | bah that reminds me of my own RAID being more of an AID |
| 17:59.17 | Shifty | can some 1 tell me how i can that problem ---> http://pastebin.com/d77bd432e <--- ? |
| 18:00.02 | _Sam-- | Eulex: thank you, again. and compiling a new perl from source will NOT solve my problem? |
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| 18:00.36 | Eulex | _Sam--, it might. you will have to make the rest of your system aware of that you have a custom-compiled perl. this can be done through equivs. |
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| 18:01.25 | _Sam-- | will i break anything further, if i make a new perl from source, and it DOESNT fix the problem? i can still apt-get remove perl (the one installed by apt)? |
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| 18:01.59 | Eulex | _Sam--, I'd try a downgrade before attempting either compiling from source or removing perl and installing the one from sarge. |
| 18:02.01 | biopyte | hi folks, i have trouble with 1440x900@60Hz with Intel GMA950. Basically i could configure it with the 915resolution package, but fonts look totally crappy now, it just cant remain like this. Any suggestions? Will an upgrade to Lenny help? How do i get a crystal clear desktop with the appropriate resolution, that looks as nice as the one from Vista :)? |
| 18:02.11 | marinosi | Hello ..I am trying to find how to unload the nv frame buffer module , which is loaded on boot, but I can't find it in bootup scripts..Is there any way to unload it , so I can add the nvidia driveR? |
| 18:02.14 | gonzaloaf_work | nkuttler, 'set -x' on the top of the postinst script right? |
| 18:02.31 | Eulex | biopyte, what's your dpi? |
| 18:02.31 | abrotman | hyper___ch: rtorrrent is in etch |
| 18:02.40 | hyper___ch | abrotman: but an old version |
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| 18:02.42 | biopyte | currently its 96 dpi |
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| 18:02.50 | abrotman | hyper___ch: good enough i'd think |
| 18:02.54 | Eulex | biopyte, are you sure? |
| 18:03.08 | biopyte | Eulex: one moment, i look it up |
| 18:03.29 | hyper___ch | abrotman: 0.6.4.1 --> no encryption |
| 18:03.31 | Eulex | biopyte, xdpyinfo|grep reso |
| 18:03.35 | Eulex | biopyte, oh, and is antialiasing enabled? |
| 18:03.36 | ma3x | firefox often crashes because of flash |
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| 18:03.41 | ma3x | what do you do about it? |
| 18:03.48 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 18:03.50 | Ace2016 | i'm back |
| 18:03.50 | biopyte | Eulex: yes 96 dpi |
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| 18:03.58 | _Sam-- | Eulex: im trying to figure out the best way to downgrade. just apt-get install =perl5.8.8-7? |
| 18:04.00 | Shifty | wb Ace2016 |
| 18:04.06 | nepbabu | ma3x, are you sure it's flash? |
| 18:04.12 | ManuP | is there a list with the supported chipsets of the mainboards? |
| 18:04.13 | abrotman | hyper___ch: uhm .. your ISP still knows! |
| 18:04.14 | ma3x | nepbabu, what else? |
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| 18:04.28 | Eulex | _Sam--, apt-get install perl=<version from sarge> |
| 18:04.30 | ma3x | nepbabu, it only crashes/freeze when i visit flash sites |
| 18:04.42 | Eulex | _Sam--, or simply apt-get install perl/sarge |
| 18:04.44 | Ace2016 | i've found lots of really useful commands i want to remmeber, does anyone know a way to put whatever is in the command histry (the commands you see when you press up in a terminal) into a file, or in what file that history is stored |
| 18:04.45 | hyper___ch | abrotman: so? I have 100mbit on my server and I hardly ever use it |
| 18:04.47 | nepbabu | ma3x, try locating your flash plugin and temporarily move them somewhere else. |
| 18:04.58 | Ace2016 | history* |
| 18:04.59 | abrotman | hyper___ch: i'm nto sure where encryption fits in .. but okay |
| 18:05.00 | ma3x | but it need to be using flash |
| 18:05.01 | nepbabu | ma3x, ~/.mozilla |
| 18:05.10 | nepbabu | ma3x, try that and see |
| 18:05.16 | _Sam-- | thanks! |
| 18:05.25 | ma3x | nepbabu, move it to .mozilla? |
| 18:05.27 | ma3x | or what? |
| 18:05.30 | _Sam-- | E: Release 'sarge' for 'perl' was not found |
| 18:05.35 | nepbabu | ma3x, move it _away_ from mozilla |
| 18:05.39 | nepbabu | :) |
| 18:05.40 | Eulex | _Sam--, then you still haven't fixed your apt sources. |
| 18:05.42 | hyper___ch | abrotman: well, the encryption is supposed to render packages useless for defining whether it's p2p traffic (in theory) but I don't know |
| 18:06.04 | Eulex | _Sam--, or perhaps you need to do perl/stable... |
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| 18:06.13 | biopyte | Eulex: 96x84 dots per inch |
| 18:06.20 | nepbabu | ma3x, look in your ~/.mozilla/plugins/ |
| 18:06.25 | _Sam-- | yeah perl/stable |
| 18:06.25 | benjamindees | Ace2016, history>file |
| 18:06.30 | nepbabu | ma3x, libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt |
| 18:06.33 | _Sam-- | grrr |
| 18:06.33 | _Sam-- | Selected version 5.8.8-7 (Debian:4.0r1/stable) for perl |
| 18:06.33 | _Sam-- | perl is already the newest version. |
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| 18:06.42 | xand | Ace2016: .bash_history |
| 18:06.48 | xand | Ace2016: it's updated when you logout |
| 18:06.56 | ma3x | nepbabu, and then what? |
| 18:07.09 | nepbabu | ma3x, move it away from there... anywhere |
| 18:07.19 | Ace2016 | Thanks |
| 18:07.22 | abrotman | hyper___ch: uhm .. okay .. sounds like it'd still be on a known port .. but whatever |
| 18:07.23 | monokrome | wewt. RAID1 is set up :] |
| 18:07.25 | Eulex | _Sam--, you've got etch sources there. oh, and sorry, sarge is oldstable, not stable. |
| 18:07.31 | ma3x | nepbabu, how do you know thats thte problem? |
| 18:07.34 | marinosi | anyone? |
| 18:07.40 | nepbabu | ma3x, that's not a problem. |
| 18:07.47 | nepbabu | ma3x, that's a temporary fix |
| 18:07.48 | hyper___ch | abrotman: no clue.... but 0.7.8 sounds a lot newer than 0.6.4 ;) |
| 18:07.51 | cotcot2006 | ma3x : gnash is an open source alternative for flash; still alpha. I have no experience with it, only read that this works sometimes. |
| 18:07.57 | Eulex | _Sam--, you'll probably need to edit your sources to say oldstable instead of stable; I don't think apt-setup knows that sarge isn't stable anymore. |
| 18:08.04 | ma3x | nepbabu, but how do you know it's causing the crashes? |
| 18:08.13 | abrotman | hyper___ch: eh .. whatever .. i'd imagine the old spreads ubuntu just as well as the new |
| 18:08.17 | _Sam-- | yeah, just did, now apt-getting update |
| 18:08.19 | nepbabu | ma3x, well, try doing that and see if it crashes in those flash sites |
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| 18:08.34 | hyper___ch | ab$ |
| 18:08.37 | hyper___ch | abrotman: who knows ;) |
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| 18:09.08 | Eulex | !tell hyper___ch about simple sid backport |
| 18:09.27 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.34 | hyper___ch | ;) |
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| 18:09.42 | biopyte | Eulex: where do i check antialiasing? I have "smoothing: subpixel" here. is it the same? |
| 18:09.43 | _Sam-- | that was from apt-get install perl/oldstable |
| 18:09.45 | hyper___ch | sid is too experimental |
| 18:09.47 | nepbabu | ma3x, is it good now? |
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| 18:10.03 | Eulex | biopyte, roughly. but could you define 'looks crappy'? |
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| 18:10.29 | Eulex | _Sam--, for every such package that is needed, you need to append it to the command, as for example perl-base/oldstable. |
| 18:10.40 | ma3x | nepbabu, i just moved it |
| 18:10.44 | _Sam-- | thank you for your patience. |
| 18:10.53 | Eulex | _Sam--, so now you have apt-get install perl/oldstable perl-base/oldstable. if you get more such errors, append those too. |
| 18:10.54 | ma3x | nepbabu, i'd dont knowyet |
| 18:10.57 | nepbabu | ma3x, ok |
| 18:11.19 | biopyte | Eulex: very diffuse |
| 18:11.25 | Shifty | lol am I muted?!? |
| 18:11.33 | nepbabu | Shifty, no |
| 18:11.35 | yigal | has anyone here made a recent upgrade from Etch --> Sid? My printing packages hplip and hpijs are being held back at Stable and I am wondering if others are having this issue or if someone can help me upgrade. |
| 18:11.38 | Eulex | hyper___ch, I didn't tell you to run sid |
| 18:11.51 | hyper___ch | Eulex: I know ;) |
| 18:11.51 | biopyte | Eulex: the letter "m" can hardly be recognized |
| 18:12.00 | _Sam-- | eulex, sorry, again for being a dumbass: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.debian.org oldstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_oldstable_main_binary-amd64_Packages) ? |
| 18:12.11 | mmInd | how should I best add a persistant route? I'm using route add -net 224.0.0.0 netmask 240.0.0.0 dev lo, but it does not keep over reboot. I was thinking of adding it to rc.local, but then it's not persistant when I do ifdown/ifup. Any ideas? |
| 18:12.47 | Eulex | _Sam--, the main debian mirror does not have amd64 sarge packages. |
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| 18:12.58 | Eulex | _Sam--, run apt-setup and select one from there. |
| 18:13.05 | _Sam-- | i read that the main mirror understands the architecture and has the amd packages. |
| 18:13.15 | Eulex | for etch and later; yes. |
| 18:13.19 | Eulex | for sarge: no |
| 18:13.20 | _Sam-- | (i dont have apt-setup and apt-cache search doesnt show it) |
| 18:13.23 | petemc | mmInd: add its as post-up line in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:13.25 | hyper___ch | huhu maxamillion |
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| 18:13.41 | maxamillion | hiya hyper___ch |
| 18:13.48 | mmInd | petemc: aha! Thanks! |
| 18:13.48 | hyper___ch | maxamillion: you're in every channel? |
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| 18:13.53 | blackba55 | does anyone know why opera keeps quiting without any error ? |
| 18:13.56 | Eulex | _Sam--, I'd be quite surprised if you haven't got it. it was afaik in the base-files on sarge. |
| 18:14.08 | _Sam-- | i did updatedb, locate apt |
| 18:14.11 | maxamillion | hyper___ch: no |
| 18:14.12 | _Sam-- | it aint on my box |
| 18:14.14 | blackba55 | i'm downloading something big with it and i can't supervise it every 5 minutes |
| 18:14.19 | _Sam-- | and apt-cache search apt-setup shows nada |
| 18:14.26 | zicho | Is there any free skype-client? |
| 18:14.26 | liable | blackba55: seeing as we cant possibly support it, no |
| 18:14.33 | xand | blackba55: opera isn't in debian, so we can't help |
| 18:14.41 | blackba55 | /:) |
| 18:14.43 | petemc | use wget.. |
| 18:14.51 | Atalanta | i like wget |
| 18:14.53 | yigal | _Sam--: what about "dpkg -S apt-setup" ? |
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| 18:14.54 | Atalanta | hell i like all of linux |
| 18:14.59 | blackba55 | petemc: it's a torrent |
| 18:15.03 | Scott | hi, i'm trying to setup my computer to connect to my router with a static IP instead of using DHCP but even though it seems to be configured right it still won't connect to the Internet |
| 18:15.06 | _Sam-- | fresco:/usr/src/perl-5.8.8# dpkg -S apt-setup |
| 18:15.06 | _Sam-- | dpkg: *apt-setup* not found. |
| 18:15.12 | Atalanta | btw guys, if you install debian with nothing except the base system (no gui or servers etc) what is installed? |
| 18:15.12 | nvz | Atalanta: I like hot roast beef.. but who cares |
| 18:15.13 | petemc | blackba55: use a torrent client, then |
| 18:15.26 | petemc | i care! |
| 18:15.26 | nvz | Atalanta: the base system |
| 18:15.34 | Scott | i can't even ping my router |
| 18:15.37 | Eulex | _Sam--, apt-cache policy base-config |
| 18:15.37 | petemc | you like that beef rare? |
| 18:15.44 | xand | Scott: pastebin your interfaces file |
| 18:15.46 | nvz | Atalanta: apt-get intall kde, if you want everything including the kitchensync |
| 18:15.49 | Eulex | _Sam--, and fyi, http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=apt-setup&mode=filename&suite=oldstable&arch=amd64 |
| 18:15.56 | blackba55 | xand: if i do apt-cache search opera i get this : opera - The Opera Web Browser |
| 18:16.07 | Atalanta | im asking what the base system consists of |
| 18:16.09 | blackba55 | what do tyou mean is not supported ? |
| 18:16.16 | nvz | Atalanta: the base system |
| 18:16.29 | _Sam-- | Eulex : apt-cache policy base-config: http://www.pastebin.ca/740082 |
| 18:16.45 | Eulex | blackba55, that one isn't from the debian repos, you've added that one yourself. |
| 18:16.48 | liable | blackba55: not from an official debian repo you dont |
| 18:16.49 | xand | blackba55: you must have a non-debian source then |
| 18:16.49 | nepbabu | ma3x, ok? |
| 18:16.52 | XTF | Does anyone know if MIA is MIA? I've send them some emails but haven't gotten a reply. |
| 18:16.53 | yigal | I am running Sid and my printing packages hplip and hpijs are being held back at Stable and I am wondering if others are having this issue or if someone can help me upgrade these 2 I would appreciate it. |
| 18:17.01 | xand | blackba55: it's not in debian... check packages.debian.org |
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| 18:17.34 | Atalanta | nvz: so, base system consists of what? |
| 18:17.41 | smacnay | I want to format a hard drive (removable) for mass storage. I will need Windows accessibility so some VFAT or other partition. Is there any need for anything other than one large primary partition? |
| 18:17.46 | nvz | Atalanta: a kernel, a shell.. nothing exciting |
| 18:17.56 | blackba55 | hmmm ... i see |
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| 18:18.10 | nvz | Atalanta: editor (nano), bootloader, |
| 18:18.13 | ma3x | nepbabu, no it says i have to install flash |
| 18:18.14 | abrotman | smacnay: depends on the size .. and what you plan to store .. IIRC fat32 has a 4GB file limit |
| 18:18.18 | abrotman | !tell root2 about root |
| 18:18.19 | Atalanta | nvz: thats awesome. but is that all? |
| 18:18.23 | Eulex | _Sam--, then you have to add your sources manually. that package is installed by default; you've removed it in some way. |
| 18:18.25 | Scott | xand: I had to hand type it, and i've snipped some stuff about wireless which didn't have any affect before... http://pastebin.com/d7bdc55e2 |
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| 18:18.29 | blackba55 | what client should i use for torrents ? except azureus which for some reason it's not working very well on my system ... |
| 18:18.35 | nvz | Atalanta: ssh is probably the most exiting thing, that and grep |
| 18:18.39 | Atalanta | nvz: im tryin out being minimalistic in linux. its fun |
| 18:18.43 | Eulex | _Sam--, oh wait, try apt-get install base-config; you've got it cached locally |
| 18:18.43 | nepbabu | ma3x, good good.. now it's not crashing. :-) |
| 18:18.47 | smacnay | abrotman: the hard disk is 80 Gig for media, presentations, etc. |
| 18:18.47 | abrotman | blackba55: there are tons .. apt-cache search torrent |
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| 18:18.56 | nvz | Atalanta: well you still want more than the base install |
| 18:18.59 | abrotman | smacnay: as long as you don't expect files over 4GB |
| 18:19.01 | grandpapadot | Hi all. Is there something I need to put in my snmpd.conf to allow other hosts besides localhost access to the snmp info? I ran snmpconf and it generated a file correctly. No errors in the logs. |
| 18:19.06 | xand | Scott: does "ifconfig" mention eth0 and have the right ip address? |
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| 18:19.13 | blackba55 | and i get tons of unecessary results with that command |
| 18:19.17 | nepbabu | ma3x, now. tell me where you got flash from? |
| 18:19.19 | _Sam-- | no go :/ |
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| 18:19.32 | \amethyst | nvz: ssh isn't in the base install, is it? |
| 18:19.35 | nvz | Atalanta: screen, less, links2, mplayer, cplay, mpg321/madplay/ogg123/music123..etc |
| 18:19.36 | shriphani | does the ipw2200 card work out of the box ? |
| 18:19.36 | smacnay | abrotman: I can't see having files over 4 Gig. |
| 18:19.38 | ma3x | nepbabu, dunno adobe i guess unpackaged .tar.gz and put the 2 files somehwere |
| 18:19.42 | xand | Scott: can you ping 192.168.2.5 |
| 18:19.43 | abrotman | smacnay: okay .. |
| 18:19.45 | Atalanta | nvz: im usin debian for testing c++ programs im writing which i want to be very portable |
| 18:19.57 | nvz | \amethyst: afaik ssh is installed unless you specifically tell it not to |
| 18:19.57 | Scott | xand: yes |
| 18:20.02 | nepbabu | ma3x, is it there in debian port? |
| 18:20.04 | nepbabu | !flash |
| 18:20.05 | dpkg | i guess flash is http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 18:20.10 | Scott | I can ping that IP address |
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| 18:20.18 | Atalanta | nvz: i installed build-essential, slocate, bzip2, and thats its, and instantly i have a full dev env =D |
| 18:20.34 | nvz | Atalanta: in that case, screen, less, build-essential, debhelber.. |
| 18:20.43 | smacnay | abrotman: any other formats for Win/Linux sharing that would sidestep the 4 Gig limit (just in case the unforseeable happens and I have a file that is over 4 Gig)? |
| 18:20.44 | marinosi | Hello I am trying to find how to unload the nv frame buffer module , which is loaded on boot, but I can't find it in bootup scripts..Is there any way to unload it , so I can add the nvidia driveR? |
| 18:20.46 | h3sp4wn | Atalanta: surely you need a text editor (or better one) |
| 18:20.48 | nvz | helper even |
| 18:20.49 | Eulex | _Sam--, you can get a .deb of it and dpkg -i it. |
| 18:20.51 | Atalanta | nano is fine |
| 18:20.54 | Scott | xand: ifconfig does mention eth0 and has the right "inet addr" |
| 18:20.55 | nvz | haha |
| 18:20.59 | Atalanta | who doesnt like nano? |
| 18:21.02 | yigal | running Sid and my printing packages hplip and hpijs are being held back at Stable because a dependency on a virtual package libsnmp10 can someone help me upgrade these 2 packages? |
| 18:21.05 | xand | hmm |
| 18:21.07 | nvz | nano sucks |
| 18:21.12 | benjamindees | Atalanta, idiots, that's who |
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| 18:21.17 | abrotman | smacnay: there are extensions for win32 that can read ext2/3 |
| 18:21.22 | Scott | i can't see anything about the gateway though |
| 18:21.28 | xand | Scott: route -n |
| 18:21.29 | nvz | mp ftw |
| 18:21.29 | smacnay | abrotman: thanks |
| 18:21.42 | h3sp4wn | For coding emacs is wonderful (and I have only been using it a few months) |
| 18:21.57 | Atalanta | nvz: name a better editor? |
| 18:22.03 | Atalanta | i prefer xcode but thats macosx only |
| 18:22.05 | nvz | Atalanta: I just did |
| 18:22.12 | nvz | !info mped |
| 18:22.16 | dpkg | mped: (Minimum Profit, a programmer's text editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 3.3.17-1 (sid), Packaged size: 157 kB, Installed size: 360 kB |
| 18:22.17 | Atalanta | oh |
| 18:22.18 | yigal | Atalanta: Vim |
| 18:22.28 | Atalanta | ewwwww |
| 18:22.29 | h3sp4wn | Atalanta: emacs for coding is brilliant |
| 18:22.30 | _Sam-- | thanks, working on that now |
| 18:22.35 | xand | vim ftw |
| 18:22.36 | Scott | xand: there's three lines all with eth0 under interface |
| 18:22.45 | ma3x | nepbabu, what do u mean |
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| 18:22.52 | Atalanta | ok so clearly there is never going to stop being controversy on editors, so skip that |
| 18:23.02 | nepbabu | !flash > ma3x |
| 18:23.18 | nobol | when I do man printf, man scanf, it says: No manual entry for scanf |
| 18:23.18 | nvz | when you don't need the maximum editor, you use the minimum, minimum profit |
| 18:23.22 | nobol | how can I instal these man pages? |
| 18:23.23 | yigal | Atalanta: don't skip it even as a Vim user I would still prefer someone using emacs over nano any day |
| 18:23.27 | _Sam-- | Eulex : dpkg -i no go! results: http://www.pastebin.ca/740096 |
| 18:23.39 | Atalanta | i just installed screen and ran it but i dont know what it does |
| 18:23.44 | xand | Scott: do you have 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0.... ? |
| 18:23.58 | yigal | Atalanta: are you working in a CLI environment? |
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| 18:24.02 | Atalanta | yes |
| 18:24.02 | nvz | mped owns nano and keeps it tied up in a trunk and spanks it daily |
| 18:24.04 | Taza | So |
| 18:24.07 | nobol | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.10 | nepbabu | ma3x, you got that? |
| 18:24.12 | yigal | Atalanta: then its really good :) |
| 18:24.16 | xand | !screen |
| 18:24.16 | dpkg | [screen] allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or aptitude install screen |
| 18:24.22 | ma3x | nepbabu, what |
| 18:24.26 | Taza | I'm attempting to use a 6822 for my modem. Anyone know a guide? |
| 18:24.34 | ma3x | flashplugin-nonfree? |
| 18:24.34 | Eulex | _Sam--, you've got the locales from etch or later. |
| 18:24.35 | nepbabu | !tell ma3x about flash |
| 18:24.35 | Taza | (if you don't know what I'm talking about, you can't help) |
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| 18:24.43 | _Sam-- | working on that now. |
| 18:24.44 | abrotman | nobol: manpages-dev |
| 18:24.51 | yigal | running Sid and my printing packages hplip and hpijs are being held back at Stable because a dependency on a virtual package libsnmp10 can someone help me upgrade these 2 packages? |
| 18:24.56 | h3sp4wn | nobol: get manpages-dev and manpages-posix-dev |
| 18:25.04 | nvz | yigal: does your printer work? |
| 18:25.13 | nobol | abrotman: will it install read(), write() system calls man pages too? |
| 18:25.13 | yigal | nvz: yes |
| 18:25.18 | nvz | yigal: do you want it to keep working? |
| 18:25.20 | Scott | xand: http://pastebin.com/d399213a7 |
| 18:25.22 | Atalanta | cool |
| 18:25.24 | Scott | hand typed :> |
| 18:25.24 | nobol | h3sp4wn: what is manpages-posix-dev about? |
| 18:25.30 | Atalanta | !less |
| 18:25.30 | dpkg | less is probably a program on Unix and Unix-like systems used to view (but not change) the contents of a text file one screen at a time. It is similar to more, but has the extended capability of allowing both forward and backward navigation through the file. Unlike vi (which can also be used to view files), less does not need to read the entire file before starting, resulting in faster load times with large files. The command-syntax is: less [options] <fi |
| 18:25.33 | Eulex | _Sam--, this sounds like your system is not just a few packages from lenny, but a whole host of them. |
| 18:25.36 | nobol | !more |
| 18:25.36 | dpkg | rumour has it, more is a program on Unix and Unix-like systems used to view (but not change) the contents of a text file one screen at a time. It is similar to less, but only allows forward navigation through the file (although newer implementations of more do allow for limited backward movement). The command-syntax is: more [options] <file_name>, or less |
| 18:25.43 | Atalanta | wtf |
| 18:25.47 | h3sp4wn | nobol: Its the posix man pages (a specific standard like UNIX) |
| 18:25.48 | yigal | nvz: of course, but I am wondering why the dependency problem - its been this way for roughly two weeks now |
| 18:25.49 | Taza | [keywords: Nokia bluetooth usb gprs] Can anyone help me? |
| 18:26.01 | abrotman | nobol: try it and see! |
| 18:26.11 | nvz | yigal: if you want it to work then quit trying to install packages that don't work when you have ones already installed that do |
| 18:26.12 | nobol | h3sp4wn: what are the things extra present in posix-dev? |
| 18:26.14 | xand | Scott: not sure what's wrong |
| 18:26.19 | h3sp4wn | nobol: Sometimes one or the other is better for a given function (i.e try man 3posix printf and man 3 printf) |
| 18:26.22 | abrotman | nobol: apt-cache show .. see what it is |
| 18:26.22 | ma3x | nepbabu, md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz |
| 18:26.22 | ma3x | The Flash plugin is NOT installed. |
| 18:26.34 | nvz | yigal: if you're gonna use testing/unstable you have to resist the urge to install software over working packages |
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| 18:26.39 | abrotman | ma3x: get it from backports.org or get the tar.gz from adobe.com |
| 18:26.41 | Atalanta | along with ncurses and allegro, this is the perfect dev environment to test my qbasic-like programming langauge =D |
| 18:26.44 | Atalanta | it works so smoothly! |
| 18:26.47 | Scott | if I ping the router my own machine's ip tells me destination host is unreachable |
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| 18:26.52 | ma3x | abrotman, and then what? |
| 18:26.54 | Eulex | _Sam--, in any case, stop trying to make apt-setup work for now. here's a working mirror for amd64 sarge: amd64.debian.net/debian |
| 18:27.02 | nvz | !sns syndrome |
| 18:27.03 | dpkg | sns syndrome is, like, a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shit Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 18:27.05 | karsten | Scott: Basd routing. |
| 18:27.07 | nepbabu | ma3x, look in packages.debian.org as well |
| 18:27.10 | nobol | abrotman: E: No packages found |
| 18:27.15 | fuzzy_logic | hi people.. i'm using vsftpd and i can't upload, total commander says transfer failed.. what could be wrongly configured? |
| 18:27.16 | nobol | abrotman: what does this mean? |
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| 18:27.19 | yigal | nvz: yes, yes I know I am not interested in braking my system but understanding why its not doing something is also interesting |
| 18:27.19 | Scott | kadath: so what do I need to do? |
| 18:27.30 | abrotman | nobol: for what command |
| 18:27.33 | karsten | Scott: Fix your routing. |
| 18:27.34 | abrotman | ma3x: then install it |
| 18:27.35 | yigal | nvz: s/its/it's |
| 18:27.40 | Scott | ok, thanks for the help |
| 18:27.41 | karsten | scott: ... and your tab completion |
| 18:27.43 | nobol | abrotman: for apt-cache show |
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| 18:27.48 | ma3x | abrotman, you mean unpack it? |
| 18:27.56 | karsten | Scott: 'route -n' and pastebin, along with 'ifconfig -a' |
| 18:28.02 | karsten | !tell Scott about pastebin |
| 18:28.09 | _Sam-- | deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian/ stable main? |
| 18:28.10 | nvz | yigal: its like when I'd go to my dad as a kid and contort myself around to make something hurt and complain about it, then he'd just tell me 'well dont do that then' |
| 18:28.20 | Eulex | _Sam--, oldstable |
| 18:28.23 | nvz | simple logic, you really cant argue with |
| 18:28.24 | _Sam-- | thank you. |
| 18:28.31 | spq | what does a +b1 on the end of a debian package version mean? |
| 18:28.33 | nepbabu | ma3x, if the md5sum don't match. DO not install it. I repeat DO not install it. |
| 18:28.41 | yigal | nvz: so I should be happy with the fact that my printer/scanner works and not bi*(). Fare you are right nothing is broken I agree I am being childish :) |
| 18:28.46 | Scott | karsten: I've just done that: route -n is http://pastebin.com/d399213a7 |
| 18:29.07 | ma3x | nepbabu, ok i installed it from backports |
| 18:29.11 | ma3x | it went fine |
| 18:29.16 | nepbabu | ma3x, ok good then. |
| 18:29.26 | Eulex | _Sam--, it's quite hard to know really how much of your system is from sarge and how much is from lenny. you've got a few options: (1) continue trying to downgrade, although it will be hard and tiring (2) upgrading to lenny (3) reinstalling (if you really want sarge and not etch, this will be the easiest solution) |
| 18:29.42 | ma3x | nepbabu, started iceweasel, still no flash |
| 18:29.44 | yigal | nvz: I was just hoping someone else was having the same "problem" |
| 18:29.48 | nepbabu | ma3x, try loading up some flash site and see |
| 18:29.52 | ma3x | i tried |
| 18:29.52 | karsten | Scott: Your router is 192.168.2.1? What's your host's IP? |
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| 18:30.07 | Haris | Hello guys |
| 18:30.10 | nepbabu | ma3x, make sure you've got flash installed first |
| 18:30.21 | dserban | I'm trying to setup a link to a new internet provider, they've provided me with an "interconnect" block of /30 and a whole class c for my servers. I'm trying to setup the router, one ip of the interconnect block is the provider's gateway and the other being assigned to my router. What/how can I setup routing/nat for the other ip block, providing access to these servers on the internet? Anyone have experience with this kind of routin |
| 18:30.25 | Haris | Are there any docs/articles for samba+ldap+kerberos implementation on debian? |
| 18:30.28 | nepbabu | ma3x, ~/.mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins etc.... |
| 18:30.29 | _Sam-- | Eulex : http://www.pastebin.ca/740111 cant win. |
| 18:30.36 | Scott | karsten: 192.168.2.5 - or at least, that's what i want it to be |
| 18:30.49 | ma3x | nepbabu, I just did apt-get -t etch-backports install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 18:30.51 | ma3x | what else? |
| 18:30.51 | karsten | Scott: 'ifconfig -a' Second request. Pastebin it. |
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| 18:31.14 | winn2 | so if i have installed 5.2.0 using apt is it fair to say, becuase debain backports critical fixes into the release version that most likely i won't need to install 5.2.4 |
| 18:31.17 | Danker | Gi |
| 18:31.19 | Danker | IHi |
| 18:31.20 | _Sam-- | but on the plus side, i do have apt-setup |
| 18:31.22 | ma3x | nepbabu, ah sorry |
| 18:31.30 | Danker | Is opera in any debian repository? |
| 18:31.31 | karsten | Scott: brb. Coffee |
| 18:31.31 | ma3x | i had some windows left to close |
| 18:31.38 | ma3x | seems fine now |
| 18:31.38 | Eulex | _Sam--, now try installing perl and perl-base from oldstable. |
| 18:31.39 | nepbabu | Danker, packages.debian.org |
| 18:31.42 | Danker | Or I should add opera's repository? |
| 18:31.47 | ma3x | though flash on linux is very slow (eats cpU)why's that |
| 18:31.51 | _Sam-- | hah, the two apt-sources in apt-setup dont even work |
| 18:31.53 | _Sam-- | funny |
| 18:31.54 | nepbabu | !tell Danker about opera |
| 18:32.02 | spq | what does a +b1 on the end of a debian package version mean? |
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| 18:32.15 | Eulex | spq, beta 1, methinks |
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| 18:32.26 | Danker | nepbabu: So? |
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| 18:32.37 | nepbabu | Danker, what do you mean So? |
| 18:32.40 | XTF | spq: binary autobuild |
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| 18:33.47 | sdfsdfsdf | xand and karsten: doesn't matter, I'm dumb. It was my MAC address filtering that was causing the problem |
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| 18:33.58 | Haris | Is there a kerberos implementation in etch? |
| 18:34.10 | abrotman | apt-cache search kerberos |
| 18:34.12 | _Sam-- | Eulex: i think your method will work. |
| 18:34.13 | _Sam-- | The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: |
| 18:34.13 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.34 | _Sam-- | and it will remove far less of the packages that i need |
| 18:34.49 | Eulex | _Sam--, note that packages were never made to be able to be downgraded. downgrading might or might not work. |
| 18:34.59 | abrotman | might explode ... |
| 18:35.09 | Haris | abrotman: any clues? |
| 18:35.13 | yigal | Danker: No, here is a little dated material on installing Opera in Debian http://www.debianadmin.com/install-opera-web-browser-in-debian-sargeetch-or-sid-in-3-steps.html |
| 18:35.14 | dserban | Hmm, is my question too vague or is the concept too minor to actually find an answer? |
| 18:35.23 | abrotman | Haris: apt-cache search kerberos .. do a little damn research |
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| 18:35.36 | karsten | Scott: ifconfig? |
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| 18:35.48 | Haris | abrotman: *laugh* .. ok |
| 18:35.54 | abrotman | it's not funny |
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| 18:36.00 | nepbabu | abrotman, take it easy man. |
| 18:36.03 | abrotman | dserban: might also want to ask #networking |
| 18:36.05 | nepbabu | abrotman, :) |
| 18:36.08 | abrotman | nepbabu: i'm just peachy! |
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| 18:36.17 | dserban | abrotman: :) just did. Thanks. |
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| 18:36.21 | Haris | ok! |
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| 18:36.25 | Haris | etch has heimdal |
| 18:36.29 | leku | which came first, apt-get or yuM? |
| 18:36.33 | abrotman | apt-get |
| 18:36.36 | nepbabu | oh god |
| 18:36.36 | Haris | who cares? |
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| 18:36.40 | leku | i am being fed misinformation stating that yum was developed by yellowdog for rpm |
| 18:36.42 | leku | before debian |
| 18:36.43 | Haris | as long as anything get's the job done |
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| 18:36.47 | Scott_ | karsten: I fixed it though |
| 18:36.54 | rockets | what do i need to pass to rsync to make it update only change files, rather then replacing all files (or is that the default) |
| 18:36.56 | leku | for arguments sake, I do |
| 18:36.57 | dondelelcaro | dserban: FWICT, your router should be bridging |
| 18:37.06 | karsten | Scott_: All the bette |
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| 18:37.16 | abrotman | leku: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_dog_Updater%2C_Modified |
| 18:37.19 | Scott_ | I had MAC filtering on :D |
| 18:37.23 | nepbabu | leku, look at the state of yum and apt and you'll see which came first and did the job correctly! |
| 18:37.24 | leku | thx |
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| 18:37.25 | nepbabu | :D |
| 18:37.29 | leku | nepb |
| 18:37.32 | leku | i want facts |
| 18:37.35 | leku | not just your opinion |
| 18:37.37 | leku | or preference |
| 18:37.38 | dondelelcaro | dserban: assuming we're talking about some sort of physical device; it's not entirely clear to me why it has an IP in your network at all; it probably can be configured not to |
| 18:37.42 | leku | we all know yum blows monkey balls |
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| 18:37.44 | karsten | rockets: That's the default. |
| 18:37.45 | leku | and apt-get is the shit |
| 18:37.46 | nepbabu | leku, look 4 your self |
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| 18:37.50 | dserban | dondelelcaro: sounds right, though I can't figure out the intricate details. |
| 18:37.59 | dondelelcaro | leku: so look at the changelog for apt-get and dpkg and stop overusing enter, please. |
| 18:38.12 | tt | Anyone here familiar with bitlbee? I've installed it but I'm not to sure how to connect to the server? Whats the server adress? (default) |
| 18:38.14 | karsten | rockets: rsycn -avz <local path> remotehost:remotepath |
| 18:38.33 | dondelelcaro | tt: localhost:6667 |
| 18:38.44 | rockets | thanks |
| 18:38.46 | dserban | dondelelcaro: yes, two eth interfaces, one connected to the provider via a /30 block and the other to a switch out to my servers which receive their own IP block... bridging... I can't figure out what I'd bridge, due to having two different ip blocks... |
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| 18:38.49 | rockets | ok so then what is -u for |
| 18:38.50 | dondelelcaro | tt: but you can change it depending on how you've configured it; in the future netstat -plunt; will answer this sort of questions |
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| 18:38.50 | tt | doneelelcaro: Thanks, ill try that. |
| 18:38.51 | karsten | rockets: ... modulo correct spellings of "rsync" |
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| 18:38.58 | Haris | abrotman: I can find the apps, but I can't find a doc of implementation on google |
| 18:39.12 | seu_barriga | hey |
| 18:39.12 | Haris | there's samba+ldap, but kerberos is not in the picture |
| 18:39.15 | dondelelcaro | dserban: oh, you've got two different ip blocks? In that case, nevermind |
| 18:39.27 | dondelelcaro | dserban: it's probably set up as a real router then |
| 18:39.37 | nepbabu | Haris, if you install the package's doc, you'll find it in /usr/share/doc/<package> |
| 18:39.39 | MmikeDOMA | When I type: find . -type f -name *.txt -exec cp --parent {} /tmp/j \; <-- that takes forever... find needs to copy over one milion files, and that is slow.... Is there a way to use xargs with find? I can't seem to be able to add --parent option to cp when using xargs: find . -type f -name *.txt | xargs cp --parent -0 /tmp/j <-- that gives cp error, it does not recognize option -0 |
| 18:40.00 | seu_barriga | i'm using amsn 0.97, but it doesn't seem to have audio and video conversations support. Is there a msn program for linux that has support to those features? |
| 18:40.20 | dondelelcaro | dserban: or should be, anyway; you just need to configure it to use the proper gateway, and your ISP needs to configure their router appropriately to advertsie the network behind your switch (or you do, depending on their setup) |
| 18:40.23 | nepbabu | MmikeDOMA, simple example, cp a b | xargs rm b; |
| 18:40.28 | dserban | dondelelcaro: right, what I figured at first, but is it... kernel level routing or is it SNAT/DNAT... I'm familiar with the latter, but being directly involved in setting up routes, I'm new to. I've looked at lartc, and no simple example seems to handle my specific situation. |
| 18:40.32 | nepbabu | MmikeDOMA, 1 step at a time. |
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| 18:40.42 | Haris | its going to remove proftpd qpopper for installing krb5-config libkafs0-heimdal libotp0-heimdal |
| 18:40.51 | MmikeDOMA | nepbabu, i don't get it :) |
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| 18:41.09 | nepbabu | MmikeDOMA, xargs just executes whatever command is fed to it. |
| 18:41.11 | leku | overusing enter |
| 18:41.11 | dondelelcaro | dserban: it should be kernel level routing if they're giving you ips and your network block is portable |
| 18:41.12 | sigjuice | is there something like sux for sudo? |
| 18:41.13 | dserban | dondelelcaro: which are you talking about, the router? (mine?) |
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| 18:41.24 | leku | are you the keyboard gestapo? |
| 18:41.27 | nepbabu | MmikeDOMA, 'cp a b | xargs rm b'; will copy a to b and delete b; |
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| 18:41.51 | MmikeDOMA | nepbabu, how is that different than: cp a b; rm b |
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| 18:42.20 | twobitsprite | is there a way to use live-helper on a non-debian system? |
| 18:42.23 | dserban | dondelelcaro: right, so I need to have the two interfaces, with my servers pointing to my own router (which would be the first in the ip block ... not the interconnect) then... how do I route both ingress and egress packets from the C block to the interconnect? ip correct? |
| 18:42.25 | nepbabu | MmikeDOMA, oh god. that was an example of xargs. why would I do that in real practise? |
| 18:42.28 | dondelelcaro | leku: if you're going to talk in this channel, courtesy dictates behaving in a manner that doesn't get in the way of others. If you're unable to handle that yourself, others will handle it for you. |
| 18:42.33 | dserban | dondelelcaro: I mean.. iproute2 |
| 18:42.42 | seu_barriga | i'm using amsn 0.97, but it doesn't seem to have audio and video conversations support. Is there a msn program for linux that has support to those features? |
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| 18:43.18 | twobitsprite | seu_barriga: try pidgin |
| 18:43.46 | twobitsprite | seu_barriga: not sure if it supports what you need, but its been around for a while... |
| 18:43.51 | nepbabu | twobitsprite, does pidgin support audio and video? |
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| 18:44.04 | dondelelcaro | dserban: uh... is the internal network portable? |
| 18:44.11 | seu_barriga | does it support audio and video conversations?? i'm using pidgin for google talk |
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| 18:44.19 | seu_barriga | i'll try anyway |
| 18:44.24 | nepbabu | twobitsprite, it doesn't. |
| 18:44.24 | dserban | dondelelcaro: I'm sorry, I don't know what that means? Portable how? |
| 18:44.27 | MmikeDOMA | nepbabu, i have a directory with around 25 milion files in over 250000 directories... I need to copy just the *.txt files, but I'd like to preserve the directory structure... i tried with: find . -type f -name *.txt -exec cp --parent {} /tmp/j, but that takes forever... I tought using xargs would speed things up... but now I see i cant fed cp with multiple files to do what I want... it seems that cp needs to be called for every .txt |
| 18:44.28 | MmikeDOMA | file there is |
| 18:44.29 | dondelelcaro | dserban: or is it in a RFC 1918 network |
| 18:44.30 | nepbabu | seu_barriga, use gizmo |
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| 18:44.35 | twobitsprite | nepbabu: ho, then why did you ask? |
| 18:44.40 | twobitsprite | hepoh* |
| 18:44.48 | seu_barriga | gizmo is crashing on my system :'( |
| 18:44.49 | twobitsprite | bleh... I need a new keyboard |
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| 18:44.56 | dserban | dondelelcaro: they're real IP addresses addressable on the internet. A class C> |
| 18:45.11 | seu_barriga | i've tried emesene, gizmo, mercury and many others |
| 18:45.13 | twobitsprite | anyways, doe anyone know how to use debian live helper on a non-debian system? |
| 18:45.48 | dserban | EHH>>>> WEIRD>>> MY SHIFT IS STUCK? |
| 18:45.52 | dondelelcaro | dserban: ok, then yeah, all your router has to do is have two interfaces, the internal one up with the class C, the external one up with the interconnect and a default gateway of the ISP router |
| 18:45.53 | dserban | WTH |
| 18:46.01 | dondelelcaro | dserban: hit shift again |
| 18:46.08 | dserban | oh lol |
| 18:46.39 | dserban | dondelelcaro: so then, what specific routing do i need to apply? Would you know? |
| 18:46.52 | dondelelcaro | dserban: the actual routing of egress packets is trivial; the hard bit is routing ingress packets, and that's something that your ISP gets to do with BGP or whatever |
| 18:47.10 | dondelelcaro | dserban: there's no special routing necessary |
| 18:47.12 | dserban | right, but on the router? |
| 18:47.14 | dserban | oh... |
| 18:47.18 | dserban | ehh... |
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| 18:47.56 | dserban | So... technically all I need is sysctl forwarding set to 1 and I should be able to ping whatever from my servers? and back? |
| 18:47.59 | MmikeDOMA | nepbabu, a friend just helped me: find . -type f -name *.txt | xargs cp --parent --target-dir=/tmp/j |
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| 18:48.11 | dondelelcaro | dserban: if your ISP has the routes set up correctly on their end, sure |
| 18:48.18 | twobitsprite | MmikeDOMA: put quotes around the *.txt |
| 18:48.40 | MmikeDOMA | twobitsprite, this seems to be working, why the quotes? |
| 18:48.41 | dserban | dondelelcaro: ok then, they don't have their routes setup correctly... |
| 18:48.42 | twobitsprite | MmikeDOMA: otherwise you risk having the shell expand it before find gets a chance to |
| 18:48.55 | nepbabu | MmikeDOMA, let me see what your program does. first it needs '*.txt'. |
| 18:48.59 | dserban | dondelelcaro: any suggestions on what I can run to test connectivity other than a simple ping/traceroute? |
| 18:49.06 | dondelelcaro | dserban: you can ping the external world from your gateway, right? |
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| 18:49.11 | twobitsprite | MmikeDOMA: if youh ave a something.txt in the current directory, the shell will replace the *.txt with something.txt |
| 18:49.14 | dserban | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 18:49.24 | dserban | dondelelcaro: but not from my servers |
| 18:49.40 | dondelelcaro | dserban: can you ping the gateway from your servers? |
| 18:49.44 | dondelelcaro | (the ISPs gateway) |
| 18:49.55 | dserban | dondelelcaro: ie, from the class c that connects to the gateway, I've set the default route gw to be the router's class c ip |
| 18:50.01 | guillaume1 | hello :) |
| 18:50.15 | robboplus | if my box got 2 IPs and i run a service which listens on 0.0.0.0 will that service be available on BOTH ips? |
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| 18:50.27 | MmikeDOMA | twobitsprite, you're right, but I don't have any files in dir where I start find, I just have around 1000 directories |
| 18:50.31 | dondelelcaro | robboplus: yes |
| 18:50.44 | robboplus | dondelelcaro hm so just the same port open on both IPs? |
| 18:50.50 | robboplus | no extra work needed? |
| 18:51.02 | twobitsprite | MmikeDOMA: ok, its just a Best Practice kind of thing... if it ends up biting you in the ass later don't complain to me |
| 18:51.12 | twobitsprite | :P |
| 18:51.16 | nepbabu | MmikeDOMA, most of the time, all it takes is to read the man pages. |
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| 18:51.22 | nepbabu | MmikeDOMA, goodluck |
| 18:51.27 | xingu | dserban: going back to the original topology, and just to recap; you've been given a /30 transit and a /24 host range; all *you* need to do is allocate your end of the /30 transit to the interface facing the ISP with a default route there via their end of the same /30; then select one of the addresses from the /24 for another interface facing your hosts. |
| 18:51.30 | dserban | dondelelcaro: would the gateway be the first ip in the class c? (that's how I assigned it) since I don't understand how they should bridge... so for example the interconnect block shows up as one ip, the other interface which connects to the switches and the servers is assigned as the first ip of THE CLASS C>>> |
| 18:51.42 | dserban | OH CRAP WTH WITH THIS SHIFT KEY |
| 18:51.46 | xingu | dserban: the hosts should have a default route facing this address plucked from the /24 |
| 18:51.50 | MmikeDOMA | twobitsprite, notice taken, thnx :) |
| 18:52.10 | xingu | dserban: redistributing both the /30 and the /24 to upstream peers are at this stage both the isp's problem |
| 18:52.11 | dserban | xingu: THANKS>>> |
| 18:52.16 | dserban | xingu: CORRECT |
| 18:52.44 | Haris | anyone have experience with implementing kerberos+ldap? |
| 18:52.49 | _Sam-- | Eulex : running into some problems while trying to reinstall packages removed during downgrade: http://www.pastebin.ca/740150 |
| 18:52.53 | twobitsprite | Haris: nope |
| 18:53.04 | _Sam-- | er bad paste |
| 18:53.05 | twobitsprite | !tell haris about ask |
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| 18:53.10 | dserban | dondelelcaro: HITTING SHIFT AGAIN ISN"T FIXING IT :) |
| 18:53.12 | xingu | dserban: nb, mixing and matching "class" notation with classless (specifically, cidr slash notation) is oxymoronic |
| 18:53.19 | robboplus | dondelelcaro and what should i do if i don't want that service to open a port on IP1? |
| 18:53.30 | robboplus | i want it to only listen on IP2 |
| 18:53.32 | Haris | twobitsprite: I'm looking for docs/articles on the matter |
| 18:53.38 | dondelelcaro | robboplus: you have it bind to a specific IP or use iptables to block traffic to it, depending. |
| 18:53.45 | Haris | someone with expeirence maybe able to point me in the right direction |
| 18:53.46 | twobitsprite | Haris: nothing on google? |
| 18:53.51 | dserban | xingu: YES >>> JUST GETTING FLUSTERED :) |
| 18:53.53 | Haris | nothing for kerberos |
| 18:53.54 | Haris | part |
| 18:54.11 | dserban | xingu: SO I HAD IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME< THOUGH NOW THEN IT SEEMS THAT THE ISP GOT IT WRONG SOMEHOW>>> |
| 18:54.11 | robboplus | dondelelcaro oh hm... so i could just allow it to bind to 0.0.0.0 and then cut off traffic to the particular port with iptables on certain IPs? |
| 18:54.55 | nepbabu | Haris, what does 'apt-cache search kerberos' say? |
| 18:55.00 | xingu | dserban: so; next question - what, with that topology (two legged router, /30 point-to-point, their end as your default gateway on the to-ISP leg, /24 broadcast multipoint to multipoint, your router's assignment as your hosts' default gateway) - is the problem? :) |
| 18:55.08 | dserban | GAH! stupid keyboard |
| 18:55.11 | \amethyst | Haris: maybe http://www.bayour.com/kerberos/Kerberos-MiniHOWTO.html |
| 18:55.15 | Eulex | _Sam--, perl-base is correctly installed? is strict.pm in /usr/lib/perl/5.8? |
| 18:55.28 | dserban | oh there we go... |
| 18:55.37 | xingu | dserban: nb: you can check whether or not the route is getting redistributed by looking in a looking-glass app; do you want to spill this detail so we can do this ? |
| 18:55.37 | dserban | xingu: gimme a sec to re-read that 20 times :) |
| 18:55.42 | \amethyst | Haris: hm, that howto seems to be a little too mini |
| 18:55.54 | Haris | nepbabu: yep, the apps are there. however, I don't need pureftpd and qpopper uninstalled to see their docs atm. |
| 18:55.55 | \amethyst | Haris: http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP |
| 18:56.04 | dserban | xingu: yep but I gotta hit the can for 2 mins.. gonna be around? |
| 18:56.24 | nepbabu | Haris, ok then |
| 18:56.26 | _Sam-- | perl-base is already the newest version. and no strict.pm there. |
| 18:56.50 | xingu | dserban: I'll lay it out quickly with numbers rather than verbs; ptp 10.0.0.0/30 you .2 them .1; broadcast 10.1.1.0/24 your router .1 your hosts 2-254 |
| 18:57.03 | Eulex | _Sam--, is perl-base the _correct_ version? |
| 18:57.18 | xingu | dserban: your router's gateway is 10.0.0.1; your hosts default gateway is 10.1.1.1 |
| 18:57.24 | _Sam-- | Snake-eyes: 5.8.4-8sarge5(/var/lib/dpkg/status) |
| 18:57.27 | _Sam-- | er, yes. |
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| 18:57.39 | xingu | dserban: make sure your router err routes; turn on ip forwarding. :) |
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| 18:57.51 | _Sam-- | perl-base = correct version after downgrade |
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| 18:58.33 | \amethyst | _Sam--: you downgraded perl? ouch |
| 18:58.48 | _Sam-- | i know i know. |
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| 18:59.07 | _Sam-- | i'll just tryin building it from source |
| 19:00.04 | Eulex | _Sam--, building perl from source will probably not solve it. in any case, what about the second part of my question? |
| 19:00.11 | Eulex | ah, sorry |
| 19:00.18 | Eulex | strict.pm wasn't there |
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| 19:01.07 | Eulex | _Sam--, is /usr/share/perl/5.8 a link to /usr/share/perl/5.8.4? |
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| 19:01.35 | \amethyst | _Sam--: is there a strict.pm in /usr/share/perl/5.8.5/ ? |
| 19:01.40 | \amethyst | _Sam--: err, 5.8.4 |
| 19:02.05 | _Sam-- | \amethyst : yes. |
| 19:02.27 | \amethyst | _Sam--: then I think Eulex's suggestion is on target |
| 19:02.37 | \amethyst | _Sam--: 5.8 should be a link to 5.8.4 |
| 19:02.50 | _Sam-- | ok lemme symlink it up and see |
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| 19:03.20 | gahan | was libapache-mod-php5 removed from testing? |
| 19:03.31 | gpm | !tmtowtdi |
| 19:03.31 | dpkg | There's More Than One Way To Do It (in Perl, or....) |
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| 19:03.57 | dacs | hi guys, |
| 19:04.00 | dacs | i was able to map a drive from my debian box to windows box, but i want to map a drive from windows dox to Debian so that i can share my windows box HDD in Debian box i.e. what i download in Debian will be saved in the windows box. thank in advance |
| 19:04.12 | gpm | !info libapache-mod-php5 lenny |
| 19:04.18 | _Sam-- | dacs: samba |
| 19:04.26 | gpm | gahan: yes |
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| 19:04.41 | gpm | !+info libapache-mod-php5 |
| 19:04.42 | dpkg | Package 'libapache-mod-php5' does not exist. |
| 19:04.47 | gpm | :( |
| 19:04.48 | dacs | _Sam--: it is running on samba but i don't know where i am messing up |
| 19:04.55 | irule | how may I fix this? squid says "FATAL: cannot open HTTP port", |
| 19:04.57 | \amethyst | gahan: it's in the lenny security updates |
| 19:05.07 | nepbabu | gpm, doesn't !info work these days? |
| 19:05.14 | \amethyst | gahan: but support for apache 1 is going away, so it might be a good idea to move to apache2 |
| 19:05.28 | nepbabu | !info pidgin |
| 19:05.30 | gpm | nepbabu: nope |
| 19:05.30 | _Sam-- | \amethyst thanks. that symlink allowed me to install perl-doc, and the other problematic packages. |
| 19:05.33 | dpkg | pidgin: (graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X), section net, is optional. Version: 2.2.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 852 kB, Installed size: 2292 kB |
| 19:05.33 | xingu | dacs: smbfs, probably |
| 19:05.33 | _Sam-- | you da man, sofar |
| 19:05.34 | gpm | nepbabu: it sends it to you |
| 19:05.35 | abchirk | Hi folks, anyone knows a program for recording his own voice for a movie file...so to replace the original voice with his own? :) |
| 19:05.37 | gpm | what! |
| 19:05.41 | nepbabu | hmm |
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| 19:05.48 | gpm | i just did !info libapache-mod-php5 and it msg'd me |
| 19:05.59 | nepbabu | gpm, yes it does |
| 19:06.07 | Mrdini | hmmm, how can I check some 3rd-party fonts? i.e. "are these ok? damaged? what type of fonts are these" |
| 19:06.08 | gpm | anyway i saw dondelelcaro do !+, so i copied him |
| 19:06.09 | dacs | xingu: a little bit of info will help me search please |
| 19:06.22 | _Sam-- | and spamassassin is back, yay! |
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| 19:06.55 | xingu | dacs: mount.cifs |
| 19:07.22 | gahan | \amethyst: which version is in there if i may ask? |
| 19:07.31 | dacs | xingu: i really appreciate the help , but really i can't understand what are you pointing too |
| 19:07.41 | \amethyst | gahan: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libapache-mod-php5 |
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| 19:08.15 | Mrdini | fonts, anyone? :/ |
| 19:08.32 | xingu | dacs: cifs is a kernel implementation of CIFS for linux; to mount your windows share from linux all you need is mount.cifs from the smbfs package, and the cifs kernel module (debian kernel has this by default) |
| 19:08.59 | gahan | damn |
| 19:09.18 | slid3r_ | after I import the pub key as directed at http://debian-unofficial.org/faq.html ... I still get this error: |
| 19:09.21 | slid3r_ | GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY |
| 19:09.27 | xingu | dacs: your syntax is something along the lines of mount -t cifs -o user=windowsusername,uid=linuxuserid,gid=linuxgid //windowshostname/share /linuxmountpoint |
| 19:09.30 | slid3r_ | why is that? |
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| 19:09.42 | \amethyst | slid3r_: because you don't have the key for debian-unofficial |
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| 19:09.55 | xingu | dacs: those options are documented in mount.cifs(8) |
| 19:09.55 | slid3r_ | but I imported it |
| 19:10.01 | nepbabu | Mrdini, what's the problem buddy? |
| 19:10.40 | gpm | he wants to check out if fonts are ok or damaged |
| 19:10.44 | gpm | just try them out |
| 19:10.47 | slid3r_ | soooo |
| 19:10.58 | dacs | xingu: i don't have windows user name |
| 19:11.08 | Mrdini | gpm, not that simplistic - I'd prefer a font analysis app if there's one |
| 19:12.05 | nepbabu | Mrdini, and why would you want to analyse a font? |
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| 19:12.31 | \amethyst | dacs: Is this a public share? |
| 19:12.38 | dacs | xingu: do i add this to the fstab |
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| 19:12.51 | g00se | Is aptitude update;aptitude upgrade the same as aptitude -u upgrade ? |
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| 19:13.10 | dacs | \amethyst: for now yeah |
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| 19:13.27 | Mrdini | nepbabu, 'coz I think it's fucked? :P |
| 19:13.41 | \amethyst | dacs: try 'guest' as the user |
| 19:14.09 | nepbabu | Mrdini, there should be some font editor. try with them. apart from that i dunno. |
| 19:14.11 | dacs | \amethyst: for what? |
| 19:14.25 | Mrdini | nepbabu, hmm |
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| 19:14.48 | \amethyst | dacs: as the windows user (user=guest) |
| 19:15.09 | \amethyst | dacs: also you might need to provide the "guest" option so it doesn't prompt for a password |
| 19:15.41 | dacs | \amethyst: in my windows box now i have a mapped drive for a folder in debian box, i want to reverse that |
| 19:15.59 | \amethyst | dacs: mount -t cifs -o user=guest,guest,uid=linuxuid,gid=linuxgid //windowshost/sharename /mount/point |
| 19:16.16 | xingu | dacs: that's cli syntax; for fstab, you need //windowshostname/share /linuxmountpoint cifs user=windowsusername,uid=linuxuserid,gid=linuxgid,credentials=/some/passwordfile 0 0 |
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| 19:16.40 | xingu | dacs: /some/passwordfile should contain "password=windowspassword" for the username you're mounting as |
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| 19:17.16 | dacs | ok ok ok i am really confused guys |
| 19:17.19 | \amethyst | xingu: does user= + credentials= work? I've always put the user name in the credentials file |
| 19:17.24 | xingu | dacs: and if your windows box doesn't have users, then you get to work out how to create one, or what to do there; I wouldn't touch that concept with a bargepole |
| 19:17.33 | xingu | \amethyst: has in the past ;) |
| 19:17.43 | bd | I know this may be a bit offtopic but I'm looking for a new 19" network switch and I was wondering if anyone knows a good link to comparison charts or test/benchmark results |
| 19:18.21 | guillaume1 | do you know if tunnel http can cross webense proxy ? |
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| 19:18.49 | hyper_ch | when I try to run screen as non-root user I get this error message. Anyone knows why? Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check. |
| 19:19.07 | twobitsprite | bd: you can try #networking |
| 19:19.56 | Polarina | Hello. How can I prevent the kernel from loading the AGPGART module? Passing the boot paramenter 'noagp' in GRUB doesn't work. |
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| 19:20.09 | s4xxon | hello. i am using debian stable, lets suppose i have a package in the archives dir foo1.deb . now if i add in the archives directory a package from the testing distro foo2.deb in this case (download it manualy), when i will one day upgrade my stable release and there will be a stable foo2.deb file. will it be downloaded again or it will install the testing one that allready exists |
| 19:20.12 | bd | twobitsprite: i'll ask there thank you |
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| 19:21.42 | matt__ | how do you upgrade specific packages in apt-get |
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| 19:22.22 | s4xxon | is that a question ? |
| 19:22.38 | s4xxon | for me , or u want to know for your self :) |
| 19:22.40 | xingu | Polarina: try agp=off ? |
| 19:22.40 | liable | matt__: install |
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| 19:22.53 | \amethyst | s4xxon: if it hasn't been upgraded between now and then, that would work |
| 19:23.14 | Polarina | xingu: I'll try that. |
| 19:23.14 | \amethyst | s4xxon: however, it's very likely that foo2.deb will no longer be the current version when lenny becomes stable, so it will probably have to download foo3.deb |
| 19:23.24 | zicho | Anyone who uses nicotine+? |
| 19:23.56 | matt__ | liable: say i had ruby 1.8.2 installed on a system. how would i first view what the latest version available on aptget is, then upgrade specifically just ruby to that newest version? |
| 19:23.56 | h3sp4wn | s4xxon: Its a highly unlikely situation |
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| 19:24.04 | liable | matt__: apt-cache sow, and as i said, apt-get install |
| 19:24.08 | h3sp4wn | s4xxon: but it would use the version it already had |
| 19:24.16 | liable | show* |
| 19:24.34 | matt__ | haha ok. thankyou |
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| 19:24.59 | matt__ | one more quicky, how do you update apt-cache |
| 19:25.05 | liable | matt__: have a read of the debian reference, its a wealth of info on basic stuff like this. |
| 19:25.10 | liable | !reference |
| 19:25.10 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/#contents . Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install debian-reference'. |
| 19:25.16 | Polarina | xingu: Will noload=agpgart work? |
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| 19:25.30 | s4xxon | well. lets say it as it is. i have kept many packages from testing , but in the same directory are also a lot of packages of the stable release . so i dont know anymore which one belongs to stable and which to testing. now if i place all the packages in a fresh installed stable and do an upgrade on my stable system, and there are 2 packages (foo2.deb on the stable repo , and foo2.deb that allready exists in the archives), what happens. installed |
| 19:25.39 | matt__ | apt-get update? |
| 19:25.47 | matt__ | that was the last question i promise :] |
| 19:26.17 | xingu | Polarina: agp=off should do the trick if ...linux/drivers/char/agp/backend.c is anything to go by |
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| 19:26.36 | nepbabu | matt__, 'apt-get update' will fetch the list of packages from the ports. you want 'apt-get install foo' |
| 19:26.57 | Polarina | xingu: I still need to access the AGP port, but I don't want AGPGART. |
| 19:27.18 | Ace2016 | nvagp? |
| 19:27.36 | Polarina | Ace2016: Yes. |
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| 19:27.52 | matt__ | nepbabu: no, i meant to update the apt-cache cache |
| 19:28.01 | nepbabu | matt__, update |
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| 19:28.42 | pro__ | sorry dc..is there a way to do selective apt-get? |
| 19:29.07 | Eulex | I just made a useful script. it checks all installed packages for whether they are the current ones in a release of debian that you choose. so you can check that you're not running any packages from for example unstable or stable when you're on testing. |
| 19:29.33 | xingu | Polarina: drivers/char/agp's only purpose is to expose the gart from what I can tell. |
| 19:29.38 | xingu | Polarina: have you tried =off ? |
| 19:29.45 | gryfie__ | ok, I'm compiling a new kernel.... (configuring it now). Am I right, that the option in processor-family core 2/newer Xenon is a core 2 duo upwards or does that include the core duo ? |
| 19:29.46 | Polarina | xingu: Not yet. |
| 19:29.54 | Eulex | http://pastebin.ca/740199 if anyone's interested |
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| 19:30.21 | nobol | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.22 | nobol | No manual entry for gcc |
| 19:30.30 | Eulex | !be nobol |
| 19:30.39 | Eulex | !b-e nobol |
| 19:30.39 | dpkg | nobol: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 19:30.44 | xingu | Polarina: given that agp=off is also mentioned in usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.txt.gz I'd take a guess you might want to |
| 19:30.46 | nobol | man gcc: No manual entry for gcc - How to install man page for gcc? |
| 19:30.46 | Eulex | bleh |
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| 19:30.56 | nobol | build-essential is installed because I can compile and run programs |
| 19:31.08 | \amethyst | nobol: gcc-doc maybe? |
| 19:31.25 | s4xxon | so ? it will take finally the package (testing) that is in the archives dir. or download it again from the stable repo |
| 19:31.51 | \amethyst | nobol: you'll need contrib and non-free |
| 19:32.03 | slidesinger | I've got about three weeks of email logs that I need to parse for the purpose of determining who sent mail to a given address. My first thought was grep, but that simply gives me the receipt (to:) line. Anyone have any other ideas? |
| 19:32.07 | nobol | I have contrib and non-free, installing gcc-doc |
| 19:32.15 | nobol | what is the difference between main, contrib and non-free |
| 19:32.23 | nobol | main is GPLed? |
| 19:32.28 | nobol | contrib and non-free? |
| 19:32.31 | gpm | nobol: no, main adheres to dfsg |
| 19:32.31 | \amethyst | nobol: packages in non-free don't meet the DFSG |
| 19:32.34 | dkr | !faq |
| 19:32.34 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC |
| 19:32.46 | jbm_ | dont make baby rms cry |
| 19:32.48 | gpm | nobol: non-free are not dfsg, and contrib are dfsg, but depend on non-free stuff |
| 19:33.05 | dkr | that's not the debian faq, that is the channel faq. :) |
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| 19:33.17 | nobol | who is baby rms? |
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| 19:33.36 | nepbabu | rms => RaMStein |
| 19:33.41 | slidesinger | (sorry, should read:) I've got about three weeks of email logs that I need to parse for the purpose of determining who sent mail to a given address. My first thought was grep, but that simply gives me the receipt (to: ) line. Anyone have any other ideas? |
| 19:33.44 | \amethyst | nobol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman |
| 19:33.44 | xingu | rms = root mean squared |
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| 19:33.56 | \amethyst | nobol: "baby rms" is a reference to "making the baby Jesus cry" |
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| 19:33.59 | Coweater | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-sections covers the different package categories |
| 19:34.00 | dkr | slidesinger: perl. :) |
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| 19:34.33 | Eulex | slidesinger, -A and -B might be useful |
| 19:34.35 | dkr | slidesinger: or grep -C3 |
| 19:35.09 | xingu | slidesinger: if you're talking sendmail logs, you can pair the sender and reciever lines via the message id |
| 19:36.21 | xingu | unfortunately it told me (and anyone else who bothered to look) one of the directors was having an affair so I had to bin it |
| 19:36.55 | slidesinger | xingu: I saw that, wasn't sure how to isolate that though. |
| 19:37.11 | xingu | slidesinger: perl or awk associative array, easy-peasy. |
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| 19:37.33 | xingu | slidesinger: tokenise each line; sender line, pull timestamp, sender and message id; reciever, you get the idea |
| 19:37.47 | Polarina | valdyn: None of these worked. |
| 19:37.51 | xingu | slidesinger: pair them up using message id as a hash key |
| 19:38.01 | slidesinger | Looks like it's time for me to dive into awk. |
| 19:38.02 | dashs | Trolling for webcam recommendations.....any you like? |
| 19:38.43 | xingu | slidesinger: I'd probably do it (all over again) in perl; awk explodes when you swing multi-hundred-megabyte arrays around carelessly |
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| 19:39.13 | xingu | slidesinger: for multi-megabyte you'll probably do ok; but on a busy mail relay... |
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| 19:39.40 | slidesinger | xingu`Where is the best place to start for the perl novice? |
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| 19:40.20 | xingu | slidesinger: dunno; I've gotten language agnostic over the years, so when the need eventually hit, it took me about four afternoons with a quite experienced dev |
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| 19:41.07 | Polarina | Here's a different queston, but related. How do I remove the agpgart module completely from my system? |
| 19:41.27 | xingu | !tell Polarina -about blacklist |
| 19:41.55 | Polarina | xingu: Thanks. |
| 19:42.10 | _Sam-- | Eulex & \amethyst : im back in biz nearly 100%. thank you again for all of your help, and patience. |
| 19:42.22 | Eulex | _Sam--, yw |
| 19:43.05 | nepbabu | Polarina, can't you just delete whatever's in kernel/drivers/ ? |
| 19:43.10 | _Sam-- | i ended up with a newer version of spamassassin from perl -MCPAN -e shell, too. could be worse. |
| 19:44.06 | Polarina | nepbabu: Maybe, but I'll try the blacklist first. |
| 19:44.37 | _Sam-- | Eulex: so you dont think im a bigger ass than you already do, most of my confusion (and subsequent problems) came from reading that normal debian mirrors supported the x86_64 now. |
| 19:44.57 | _Sam-- | i changed my apt-sources to stable a while ago, which caused the resulting headaches. |
| 19:45.00 | Eulex | _Sam--, well, they do -- if you run etch |
| 19:45.12 | Eulex | or later. |
| 19:45.31 | _Sam-- | thank you again is all i can say. i learned alot. |
| 19:46.08 | Eulex | _Sam--, btw, you might benefit from a script I had begun working on that I improved on now, a script that checks what packages you've got installed that aren't from a specific release of debian |
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| 19:46.19 | Eulex | _Sam--, http://pastebin.ca/740199 |
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| 19:46.40 | Eulex | _Sam--, might work to find out if there are any more packages on your system that are from etch or lenny |
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| 19:47.21 | xingu | Eulex: apt-get disinfect :) |
| 19:47.25 | marinosi | what's the name of Xlibraries?is there any dev package I have to install? |
| 19:47.38 | Eulex | xingu, oh, never knew of that one, will look it up |
| 19:47.49 | xingu | Eulex: doesn't exist, but it ought to :) |
| 19:47.57 | Eulex | xingu, :) |
| 19:48.11 | nepbabu | apt-get clean-my-toilet now. |
| 19:48.13 | nepbabu | hehe |
| 19:48.43 | FastPutty | guys smeone know well htb, i tried to put tc filter add dev $WAN parent 1: protocol ip prio 1 u32 match ip dport 80 0xffff flowid 1:10 it work fine, but i want to limit it for a ip range |
| 19:48.48 | Eulex | actually, the script could do an excellent system analyzer if it for the packages that it finds to not be from $release also dumps apt-cache policy $package |
| 19:48.53 | FastPutty | when i tried: tc filter add dev $WAN parent 1: protocol ip prio 1 u32 match ip dst 192.168.3.222 match ip dport 80 0xffff flowid 1:10 |
| 19:48.56 | FastPutty | it doenst work anymore |
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| 19:49.01 | FastPutty | and i also tried src |
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| 19:49.24 | Polarina | Odd. Blacklisting 'agpgart' doesn't prevent it from being loaded. |
| 19:49.29 | _Sam-- | Eulex : when i try your script, i still have some kind of source error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://amd64.debian.net oldstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/amd64.debian.net_debian_dists_oldstable_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 19:49.49 | xingu | Eulex: try this too... |
| 19:50.12 | xingu | Eulex: dpkg --get-selections | sed -ne '/deinstall/ d; /install/ { s/install//g; p }' |
| 19:50.18 | Eulex | _Sam--, that's odd, does apt-get update output any error? |
| 19:50.43 | _Sam-- | running now (getting packages!) |
| 19:51.00 | Eulex | xingu, your sed is obviously superior to mine, thank you :) |
| 19:51.05 | _Sam-- | apt-get update = clean, no errors |
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| 19:51.32 | _Sam-- | apt_get:1 http://amd64.debian.net oldstable/main Packages [3226kB] |
| 19:51.43 | Polarina | Does anyone know why? |
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| 19:51.58 | Eulex | xingu, then you could maybe solve the problem I had with the multiline (as in that it concatenates two lines) sed script that I have to output to a temp file and then run? couldn't get it to work with sed -e |
| 19:52.00 | _Sam-- | (damn nick completion) |
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| 19:52.40 | benjamindees | Polarina, perhaps it is loaded by the x server |
| 19:53.14 | Polarina | benjamindees: How do I check for that? |
| 19:53.36 | nepbabu | Polarina, lsmod | grep agpgart and see what else depends on this module. |
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| 19:53.57 | nepbabu | Polarina, as i said earlier remove it from /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/chars and see what happends |
| 19:54.04 | benjamindees | Polarina, try booting in single user mode (rescue) and see if it's still there |
| 19:54.06 | xingu | Eulex: maybe; knock up a spec. :) |
| 19:54.09 | Polarina | nepbabu: agpgart 29896 2 nvidia,nvidia_agp |
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| 19:54.24 | nepbabu | Polarina, so your nvdia module requires it |
| 19:54.27 | nepbabu | deps on it |
| 19:54.32 | Polarina | nepbabu: It shouldn't. |
| 19:54.51 | nepbabu | Polarina, if you are sure, then delete it from kernel/drivers/chars/ |
| 19:55.02 | nepbabu | see if you x starts without spitting any errors |
| 19:55.04 | benjamindees | heh don't do that |
| 19:55.05 | Leentje | g'day, anyone who can help me with libapache-mod-php5? i just upgraded to new php5 packages, and libapache-mod-php5 got uninstalled... not i get broken dependancies ... |
| 19:55.09 | Polarina | nepbabu: Ok. |
| 19:55.32 | nepbabu | benjamindees, why not if he's sure?v |
| 19:55.56 | gpm | Leentje: which version of debian? |
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| 19:56.11 | _Sam-- | and what version of apache |
| 19:56.30 | Polarina | nepbabu: There's a file there named 'agp', is it that one you are talking about? Or should it end in .so? |
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| 19:56.58 | Eulex | xingu, basically, it looks for *** on a line, then appends the next line, and then for those two concatenated lines looks for $release and replaces it with FOUND |
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| 19:57.02 | nepbabu | Polarina, if it's normal module, it'll be .so (shared object). if it's kernel module, it will be .ko |
| 19:57.16 | nepbabu | Polarina, what you have in kernel/drivers/chars ? |
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| 19:57.21 | Leentje | gpm: etch |
| 19:57.24 | benjamindees | Polarina, 2.6 modules end in .ko; 2.4 modules end in .o |
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| 19:57.37 | Polarina | nepbabu: That file doesn't have an extension. |
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| 19:57.47 | Eulex | xingu, then I grep for FOUND in the resulting string and if it's found, it considers the packaging to be current and from $release |
| 19:58.00 | Polarina | nepbabu: All other files there don't look related. |
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| 19:58.30 | nepbabu | Polarina, == /kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko ====< this one. |
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| 19:59.01 | xingu | Eulex: is $release a literal or variant? |
| 19:59.04 | Polarina | Ups .. Didn't see it was a folder. |
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| 19:59.14 | Eulex | xingu, a variant |
| 19:59.30 | xingu | Eulex: does it vary line by line or is it constant at runtime? |
| 19:59.53 | Polarina | nepbabu: I'll try now if things work. |
| 19:59.58 | gpm | Leentje: which version of apache? |
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| 20:00.08 | _Sam-- | Eulex : the proper safe way to install packages that are not in my oldstable apt-get update is to find debs, and dpkg -i? |
| 20:00.40 | Eulex | xingu, ah, you mean that way. no, I haven't implemented anything to figure out which release has the highest pinning for every specific package, it's constant at runtime |
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| 20:01.03 | Leentje | gpm: apache 1.3 |
| 20:01.06 | xingu | Eulex: am about to skive off for dinner; if I turn up anything I'll message, but might be days or never. :) |
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| 20:01.23 | Eulex | xingu, :) |
| 20:01.28 | Leentje | think it has to do with php5 being testing version, but libapache mod php5 not updated yet ... |
| 20:01.31 | gpm | Leentje: could you paste the error to pastebot or #flood? |
| 20:01.43 | _Sam-- | Eulex : i did get your script to run now, and i have 290 lines (according to wc -l) of items not part of my setup :) |
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| 20:01.55 | gpm | Leentje: could be. maybe grab the apache module from lenny too then? |
| 20:02.11 | _Sam-- | either that, or your script is report bogus output. it looks like nearly every package i have installed, is listed. |
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| 20:02.35 | Leentje | gpm: yeah lets try that first... but why isnt that showing in upgrade then? |
| 20:02.48 | Eulex | _Sam--, did you give it oldstable as an argument? |
| 20:02.57 | Eulex | _Sam--, if you don't, it will list packages that are not from stable |
| 20:03.00 | gpm | Leentje: because your sources are still for etch |
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| 20:03.10 | Eulex | _Sam--, which should be most of them :) |
| 20:03.15 | gpm | Leentje: if you want to upgrade to lenny, that's different |
| 20:03.16 | _Sam-- | no. i see now. i just copy and pasted it into a bash script, no changes. |
| 20:03.30 | gpm | Leentje: frankly, you shouldn't be using lenny packages on etch, i think |
| 20:03.39 | Leentje | gpm: i agree... |
| 20:03.42 | irule | how can I make squid bind to ports 80 & 3128? |
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| 20:03.52 | Leentje | gpm: can you help me get the right (old) situation back then? |
| 20:04.00 | Eulex | _Sam--, oh, and you should not dpkg -i a .deb meant for another release of debian |
| 20:04.18 | gpm | Leentje: you want to go back to the etch versions? you'd have to manually downgrade all the packages you grabbed from lenny |
| 20:04.23 | Leentje | i removed lenny from sources.list... should i just remove php5 packages, update en reinstall? |
| 20:04.49 | gpm | Leentje: wait, did you dist-upgrade with lenny in your sources.list? |
| 20:04.51 | _Sam-- | well according to your script, if i change release= to "sarge" it reports 400 and something lines. |
| 20:04.57 | _Sam-- | if i chanage it to oldstable, 290 |
| 20:05.01 | Leentje | gpm: i am afraid so :S |
| 20:05.08 | gpm | Leentje: then you are not running etch |
| 20:05.13 | gpm | Leentje: you are running lenny |
| 20:05.14 | Ace2016 | i've spent 7 hours trying to compile a working xgl in debian sid, all of the howtos found on goole are outdated and refer to xgl from cvs, it took 2 hours of searching that xgl was also in the git repos like mesa now |
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| 20:05.28 | gpm | Leentje: the easiest way to downgrade, unfortunately, is reinstalling |
| 20:05.41 | gpm | backup your config files and other data |
| 20:05.42 | Leentje | gpm: i guess i am... hmm well, but then still why wont libapache-mod-php5 install from lenny? |
| 20:05.49 | gpm | because it's not in lenny |
| 20:05.52 | Eulex | _Sam--, my script might be buggy, you should run apt-get policy on some packages to check whether it really is right. |
| 20:05.57 | gpm | !+info libapache-mod-php5 |
| 20:05.59 | dpkg | Package 'libapache-mod-php5' does not exist. |
| 20:06.06 | gpm | !+info libapache-mod-php5 lenny |
| 20:06.08 | dpkg | Package 'libapache-mod-php5' does not exist. |
| 20:06.13 | Leentje | why the hell doesnt it exist?! :P |
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| 20:07.04 | Eulex | _Sam--, also, note that the script will list a package that did come from sarge at some point but which is not the absolutely newest from sarge |
| 20:07.05 | _Sam-- | what should be done is that someone should figure out which new packages from etch work fine on old sarge, and merge them in. |
| 20:07.07 | tt | I would like a clientlist available in my irssi window. Anyone know how to do this? (Like on the right side of the screen like many other irc clients) |
| 20:07.17 | gpm | Leentje: do you have the security lines in sources.list? |
| 20:07.28 | _Sam-- | i mean, with my current apt sources, there isnt even php5 |
| 20:07.28 | Eulex | _Sam--, no guarantee that any of them will work. |
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| 20:07.37 | _Sam-- | im not asking for guarantees, but lists of ones that DO |
| 20:07.39 | gpm | Leentje: e.g. deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main |
| 20:07.41 | Eulex | _Sam--, that's because you're running an ancient distro :) |
| 20:07.45 | Leentje | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 20:07.51 | Leentje | only the stable... |
| 20:07.56 | _Sam-- | obviously i have 490 pakcages installed from something other than sarge, and my box works fine... |
| 20:08.02 | _Sam-- | then those 490 packages work fine too |
| 20:08.09 | gpm | Leentje: try adding the line i just pasted |
| 20:08.13 | gpm | remove the etch source |
| 20:08.26 | _Sam-- | anywho. im content with my state of affairs. thanks agian. |
| 20:08.28 | Leentje | k |
| 20:08.33 | gpm | Leentje: update && dist-upgrade |
| 20:08.50 | gpm | it looks like it actually is in lenny |
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| 20:09.02 | Leentje | gpm: will try now :) |
| 20:09.33 | gryfel | I'm compiling my kernel (configuring it now): Can I drop this PCCard (PCMCIA/CArdbus things when I have only a expresscard on my laptop? |
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| 20:10.09 | tralala | is there a way to limit the memory available to a particular user? |
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| 20:10.37 | gryfel | tralala: On the harddisc? Yes |
| 20:10.49 | gryfel | But don't know anymore how it was called |
| 20:10.54 | vader- | what kinda of issues can i run into imaging a linux machine from one setup of hardware to another? |
| 20:11.02 | tralala | gryfel, nope, RAM |
| 20:11.12 | Leentje | gpm: i did upgrade... now has php5 5.2.3-1+lenny1, and now installing apache mod is says: |
| 20:11.13 | _Sam-- | vader-: i guess it depends how you do it. |
| 20:11.15 | Leentje | libapache-mod-php5: Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.0-10+lenny1) but 5.2.3-1+lenny1 is to be installed |
| 20:11.19 | Leentje | :S |
| 20:11.20 | vader- | using like ghost or something? |
| 20:11.44 | _Sam-- | i would proabably, myself, use rsync with the new drive in the old running machine |
| 20:11.53 | _Sam-- | but im not the real guru here. |
| 20:12.23 | g00se | Is aptitude update;aptitude upgrade the same as aptitude -u upgrade ? |
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| 20:13.17 | OBcecado | hi |
| 20:13.27 | _Sam-- | put new drive in old machine, fdisk, mkfs.something. rsync / /mnt/newdrive |
| 20:13.27 | gpm | i dunno... |
| 20:13.30 | _Sam-- | or something lose |
| 20:13.39 | _Sam-- | s/lose/close |
| 20:13.45 | gpm | Leentje: you could always upgrade to apache2 |
| 20:13.52 | gpm | things seem to be in order there :/ |
| 20:13.58 | Leentje | :) |
| 20:14.10 | benjamindees | vader-, may have booting issues; might have to reinstall grub. X server driver will be incorrect and should be changed before starting X. |
| 20:14.14 | gpm | Leentje: or use php4 |
| 20:14.18 | gpm | :( |
| 20:14.23 | OBcecado | i'm trying to install debian 4.0r1 on a laptop, i follow the usual setup, but after selecting packages and after retrieving the files from cd drive, it freezes |
| 20:14.27 | _Sam-- | after rsync, grub setup(hd1) |
| 20:14.28 | Leentje | use php4? i would die :) |
| 20:14.29 | OBcecado | any possible ideas ? |
| 20:14.39 | Leentje | it seems strange that it is broken |
| 20:14.48 | nepbabu | tralala, i suppose you could limit users using getrlimit programmatically |
| 20:15.13 | gpm | Leentje: it looks like you can't use php5 with apache1 in sid |
| 20:15.18 | nepbabu | tralala, getrlimit(2) tbp |
| 20:15.20 | benjamindees | tralala, you can use user mode linux for that |
| 20:15.47 | nepbabu | benjamindees, isn't that completely different distribution? |
| 20:15.49 | Ace2016 | i've searched for ages and i've finally found repos but i need help getting the stuff from git |
| 20:15.53 | Ace2016 | ace@Ace2017:~/CVS/xserver$ git branch |
| 20:15.54 | Ace2016 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.54 | Ace2016 | * origin/xgl-0-0-1 |
| 20:16.06 | Leentje | gpm: i had no problems with it before :S it really sucks that it wont work now... cant find much on the subject either |
| 20:16.20 | gpm | Leentje: you may want to consider filing a bug |
| 20:16.27 | tralala | benjamindees, is it working well for desktop use? |
| 20:16.54 | benjamindees | tralala, dunno |
| 20:17.10 | g00se | OBcecado: have you got the base installation done? |
| 20:17.22 | _Sam-- | etch has the apache1.3 php5 module, cant you just get that deb? |
| 20:17.27 | Ace2016 | i need to git-pull i guess but it says |
| 20:17.27 | Ace2016 | You asked me to pull without telling me which branch you want to merge with, and 'branch.origin/xgl-0-0-1.merge' in your configuration file does not tell me either. Please name which branch you want to merge on the command line and try again (e.g. 'git pull <repository> <refspec>'). See git-pull(1) for details on the refspec. |
| 20:17.32 | OBcecado | after i select which packages i want to install, it fecthes the packages and freezes |
| 20:17.49 | OBcecado | 'Select and install software' screen freezes @ 5% |
| 20:17.50 | Leentje | _Sam--: it will nag about broken dependancies |
| 20:18.37 | g00se | OBcecado: Sounds like you might have the base installation done. Try rebooting without CD |
| 20:18.40 | gpm | Leentje: honestly i'd file a bug with libapache-mod-php5 |
| 20:18.44 | OBcecado | won't boot |
| 20:18.49 | OBcecado | tried that |
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| 20:19.12 | Leentje | gpm: ok thx, will do that then |
| 20:19.22 | g00se | OBcecado: Did you completely power it down? |
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| 20:19.32 | OBcecado | yes |
| 20:19.35 | gpm | there isn't even a libapache-mod-php5 in sid at all :( |
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| 20:19.57 | g00se | OBcecado: (You'd normally have to take the batteries out to do that with a total freeze) |
| 20:20.10 | liable | OBcecado: install base without the net cable plugged in, let it reboot and run tasksel after reboot if you want the desktop or whatever |
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| 20:20.16 | Asmooh | hi all :) |
| 20:20.21 | gryfel | I'm using a new laptop, with a express-card, instead cardbus/pcmcia. Do I need the PCCard -support inside the kernel? |
| 20:20.45 | OBcecado | g00se: i'm using AC power, i unplugged, and replugged it |
| 20:20.46 | OBcecado | no luck |
| 20:21.10 | OBcecado | liable: the laptop isn't connected to any network |
| 20:21.18 | gpm | Leentje: oh wait |
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| 20:21.31 | gpm | Leentje: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=73474&sid=205662f208e9716b0c1557aa59c4e42b |
| 20:21.49 | g00se | OBcecado: You may be using AC power. You still need to completely power it down and start again |
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| 20:22.09 | liable | OBcecado: you selected desktop during install or just base system? |
| 20:22.10 | gpm | Leentje: "apache 1.x support is soon disappearing. as a consequence we are |
| 20:22.10 | gpm | no longer building the libapache-mod-php5 module. the php5 metapackage |
| 20:22.10 | gpm | should as a result bring in libapache2-mod-php5 by default for those who |
| 20:22.16 | OBcecado | i'll try once again |
| 20:22.18 | gpm | already have it installed" |
| 20:23.00 | Leentje | so no more php5 in apache 1.3 then... that sucks :S |
| 20:23.05 | g00se | OBcecado: btw - is this machine going to be normally connected to a network? |
| 20:23.19 | OBcecado | nope |
| 20:23.22 | _Sam-- | apache 1.3 was old 5 years ago. |
| 20:24.09 | Leentje | ah well maybe just upgrade to apache2 then indeed |
| 20:24.21 | gpm | Leentje: it's not that painful |
| 20:24.25 | Leentje | thx for the help _Sam-- and especially you gpm |
| 20:24.37 | Leentje | i know... but its a drag :P |
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| 20:24.51 | _Sam-- | it shouldnt even really be much of a drag. i dont know if you will have to change a single config option. |
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| 20:25.05 | _Sam-- | i thought the same thing at the time when i moved from 1.3 to 2.X, but there is nothing to it. |
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| 20:25.17 | Leentje | lets have a try at it then :) |
| 20:25.59 | _Sam-- | Leentje : http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/upgrading.html |
| 20:26.07 | OBcecado | i will try to select some different packages |
| 20:26.27 | _Sam-- | and then if you go to 2.2: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/upgrading.html |
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| 20:26.56 | Leentje | thx _Sam-- , had that first one open already |
| 20:27.22 | helo | i'm trying to get tftpd-hpa to serve up some boot files... whenever i try to get a file (even connecting from localhost) i get an error in daemon.log saying "cannot set groups for user nobody" |
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| 20:29.05 | helo | i have made sure the served files are owned by nobody.nogroup, and inetd.conf has 'nobody' as the user with -u nobody passed to tftpd |
| 20:29.31 | dreamw | what can I use for recovering files from a formatted ext3 partition? |
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| 20:29.42 | _Sam-- | dreamw : a backup? |
| 20:29.50 | dreamw | I've seen TestDisk mentioned; is that the best option? |
| 20:30.03 | dreamw | _Sam--: :( |
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| 20:30.28 | _Sam-- | im sure there are ways, but im am not expert enough to tell you how to recover that data. |
| 20:30.38 | Asmooh | hm i have a question, im NOT new to debian or linux/unix whatever, but! i saw an ARM version on the website, how does the installer work ? |
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| 20:30.55 | valdyn | Asmooh: same as for i386 or any other architecture |
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| 20:31.03 | Asmooh | valdyn, hmmm |
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| 20:31.08 | rapha | Hi all! |
| 20:31.13 | Asmooh | and what if i want to use it as mobile os? |
| 20:31.21 | rapha | Is there a way to find out what debian package the Oki printer drivers are in? |
| 20:31.37 | Polarina | This is so not working. How am I supposed to be able to use NvAGP? |
| 20:31.44 | fehmican | i have a nokia 5700 xpressmusic phone. i have debian unstable installed. how can i transfer my photos from my cellphone to computer? |
| 20:31.45 | valdyn | Polarina: what's wrong with your kernels agp support? |
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| 20:31.53 | _Sam-- | rapha : foomatic |
| 20:31.56 | Polarina | valdyn: Slow. |
| 20:32.01 | valdyn | Polarina: doubt it |
| 20:32.01 | rapha | (searching for Oki or printer in aptitude yielded no usable results) |
| 20:32.02 | rapha | thanks sam! |
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| 20:32.12 | valdyn | Polarina: if anythign then nvagp is slow |
| 20:32.25 | rapha | hmm |
| 20:32.38 | valdyn | Polarina: maybe your slowness is caused by something else |
| 20:32.39 | fehmican | i have a nokia 5700 xpressmusic phone. i have debian unstable installed. how can i transfer my photos from my cellphone to computer? |
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| 20:32.45 | valdyn | Polarina: or not having agp support at all |
| 20:32.48 | rapha | _Sam--: I got the foomatic filters installed now and have restarted cups, but there's still only two very basic models showing up under Okidata :( |
| 20:33.00 | Drgb | whenever I try to run some apps (gnome-panel, gnome-calculator) I get an error saying that "libgnomebreakpad.so" could not be found. libgnomebreakpad.so shows in bug-buddy, and I have the latest version of bug-buddy installed. what can I do? |
| 20:33.16 | Polarina | valdyn: I'm just trying to fix that mouse cursor. It keeps flickering when there is an animated cursor image shown. |
| 20:33.25 | _Sam-- | rapha: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/OkidataFAQ |
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| 20:33.34 | Polarina | valdyn: But it doesn't flicker like that using the nv driver. |
| 20:33.40 | valdyn | Polarina: and what does that have to do with agp support? |
| 20:33.54 | Asmooh | valdyn, do u think its possible just to copy the bzimage to my phone, and put the rest of the debian system on my storage card, and "tell" debian my "harddisk" is an mmc card? |
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| 20:33.57 | Polarina | valdyn: I don't know, I have tried about almost everything now. |
| 20:33.59 | valdyn | Polarina: you can try hardware cursor on / off in nvidia-settings |
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| 20:34.13 | OBcecado | ok |
| 20:34.14 | Polarina | valdyn: Is there an option for that? |
| 20:34.18 | OBcecado | i got that problem again |
| 20:34.45 | valdyn | Polarina: you run the program 'nvidia-settings' and see |
| 20:34.56 | Polarina | valdyn: I'm unable to find that option there. |
| 20:35.11 | valdyn | Polarina: look harder |
| 20:35.20 | Polarina | valdyn: I looked everywhere there. |
| 20:35.33 | valdyn | geez |
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| 20:36.12 | Polarina | valdyn: Honestly, I don't see it there anywhere. |
| 20:37.18 | Supaplex | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:38.12 | valdyn | Supaplex: heh |
| 20:38.33 | Supaplex | :} |
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| 20:39.21 | claudio` | I'm trying to delete some directory with find(1) but, also if everything works properly, from the tool's output seem that the directories doesn't exists. Does anyone know why? This is the whole output: http://rafb.net/p/kBeTDR44.html . |
| 20:39.27 | valdyn | i cant find nvidia-settings screenshots on google |
| 20:39.55 | valdyn | claudio`: that's dangling symlinks? |
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| 20:40.22 | hyper_ch | how can I define an download-to folder for wget when I run wget in a cron? |
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| 20:40.44 | guillaume1 | Is this message is normal in my daemon.log : NetworkManager: <info> Error getting killswitch power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported - Access type not supported ??? I'm under lenny |
| 20:40.50 | valdyn | hyper_ch: same way you would do it without cron invoolved |
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| 20:41.25 | hyper_ch | valdyn: is there any way or do I need to make a small shell script? |
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| 20:41.33 | Tr0gd0r | once i do apt-get install ntp do i need to set up ntp somehow? |
| 20:41.36 | Tr0gd0r | and if so where is the config |
| 20:41.43 | ma3x | is /dev/dsp1 for alsa? |
| 20:41.44 | claudio` | valdyn: no, all directories.. and anyway if i had symlinks the error was wrong. |
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| 20:43.07 | Polarina | valdyn: Do you know where I disable hardware cursor? |
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| 20:43.35 | krazykit | if i'm going for an install with a seperate /home than the rest of /, how much space should / get for a typical desktop install? |
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| 20:44.17 | claudio` | valdyn: look yourself: http://rafb.net/p/lomvPz94.html |
| 20:44.37 | amphi | krazykit: I hve 3.1GB in /usr here, but I have loads of junk installed |
| 20:45.06 | krazykit | amphi, so do /var and others not contribute significantly? |
| 20:45.38 | Leentje | _Sam--: that wasnt so bad... got it working it seems :) |
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| 20:46.23 | valdyn | claudio`: you are searching in chems-0.2 but running rm above that directory |
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| 20:46.57 | claudio` | valdyn: uhm? |
| 20:47.31 | valdyn | claudio`: no idea, trying to figure this out |
| 20:47.46 | Polarina | valdyn: Do you know? |
| 20:48.06 | Tramp | claudio`: what happens, if you rm -rf one of those directly? |
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| 20:48.20 | amphi | krazykit: /var can fill up, with downloaded packages, if nothing else |
| 20:48.22 | claudio` | Tramp: them are removed, of course ;) |
| 20:48.29 | astra-x | would this be the place to ask about recompiling a kernel in debian on Xen? |
| 20:48.44 | amphi | krazykit: building kernels, if you do that sort of thing, can use a fair bit |
| 20:48.45 | Polarina | astra-x: Ask the question. |
| 20:49.18 | astra-x | I want to upgrade the kernel in my debian 4.0 in Xen machine, where do i place the bzImage to tell Xen to boot from it |
| 20:49.25 | amphi | krazykit: 10 or 15GB for / is plenty IMHO, if you are having just / and /home |
| 20:49.26 | claudio` | claudio@smop$ rm -rf chems-0.2/CVS chems-0.2/*/CVS chems-0.2/*/*/CVS |
| 20:49.26 | tt | Hello everybody. I'm looking for information how to add a "user bar" in irssi. The list should just show current clients in the chanels (like mirc/xchat or some other client). Where do I find this? |
| 20:49.27 | claudio` | claudio@smop$ |
| 20:50.00 | _Sam-- | astra-x : normally, /boot/bzImage. then you need to update your grub or lilo config. |
| 20:50.05 | amphi | krazykit: but it does depends somewhat on what you intend to be doing |
| 20:50.19 | astra-x | I have no /boot |
| 20:50.24 | krazykit | i think 7 gigs will probably be fine then |
| 20:50.31 | _Sam-- | or /boot/vmlinuz |
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| 20:50.34 | krazykit | d-i seems to think so anyway |
| 20:50.37 | astra-x | gotcha |
| 20:50.57 | g00se | Is aptitude update;aptitude upgrade the same as aptitude -u upgrade ? |
| 20:50.59 | _Sam-- | if you run grub, nearly everything important is in /boot |
| 20:51.42 | valdyn | claudio`: with ls -d instead of rm it should work just fine |
| 20:51.53 | astra-x | I think it is more of an issue with my vps host, thanks for the help |
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| 20:52.06 | claudio` | valdyn: what do you mean? |
| 20:52.25 | claudio` | valdyn: how can i use ls(1) as rm(1)? :-P |
| 20:52.32 | valdyn | claudio`: if you just list ( ls -d ) instead of delete that should work just fine. |
| 20:52.35 | valdyn | claudio`: please confirm that |
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| 20:52.51 | valdyn | claudio`: i think i know why you see this error, but i need that confirmation anyway |
| 20:53.00 | claudio` | valdyn: ok, let me check |
| 20:53.37 | claudio` | valdyn: by running "find chems-0.2 -type d -name CVS -exec ls -d {} \;" i don't get any error |
| 20:53.47 | claudio` | valdyn: i think i didn't understood what you are trying to do. |
| 20:53.59 | valdyn | claudio`: ok, looks like you are actually removing files which is confusing find |
| 20:54.03 | krazykit | oh balls, i forgot to export what all i had installed in aptitude |
| 20:54.14 | valdyn | claudio`: as its traversing those directories |
| 20:54.15 | _Sam-- | bollocks |
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| 20:55.19 | valdyn | claudio`: so generate list first, then rm traversing that list |
| 20:55.46 | claudio` | valdyn: find traverse the whole tree by checking one directory for time and calling the command specified by -exec, i think |
| 20:55.50 | claudio` | valdyn: uhm |
| 20:56.15 | claudio` | valdyn: i'm not sure find create any list, it just traverse the directories recursively |
| 20:56.20 | astra-x | who do you guys recommend for a dedicated server? |
| 20:56.28 | claudio` | valdyn: in the way `-l' flag of ls(1) do |
| 20:56.46 | valdyn | claudio`: -d ? |
| 20:56.52 | Tramp | claudio`: does it work with parameter '-depth' to find? |
| 20:56.53 | valdyn | claudio`: -l 'long' output |
| 20:57.03 | Asmooh | anyone knows where i can find arm crosscompiler? |
| 20:57.05 | claudio` | valdyn: i meant -R |
| 20:57.16 | claudio` | Tramp: let me check |
| 20:57.25 | valdyn | claudio`: recursilvely, but ls is a bad choice if files might contain spaces |
| 20:57.31 | linux26 | Hello, I'm looking for some recommendations regarding `securing debian gnu/linux` (or simply `securing linux`). I am already aware of, have read, and followed the 'Securing Debian Manual' available in the documentation section of http://www.debian.org/. google.com *can* help, but I'm afraid I have no way of discarding `non-serious` websites, and thus I'm appealing to your experience. |
| 20:57.49 | linux26 | Basically I'm looking for websites and/or book/article titles |
| 20:58.02 | claudio` | valdyn: it's not my case, and anyway you can workaround this by setting the shell internal fields separator (IFS). |
| 20:58.04 | valdyn | claudio`: i think find will read a directory, then try to delete it, then probably stat the files it found inside |
| 20:58.20 | valdyn | claudio`: but that's just a guess |
| 20:58.23 | claudio` | Tramp: yes, it works |
| 20:58.44 | Tramp | Yea. valdyn had the right idea. |
| 20:58.48 | ma3x | is there a /dev/ for alsa? |
| 20:58.53 | claudio` | valdyn: yes, this is possible |
| 20:58.55 | ma3x | i mean if you want to tell an application to use alsa |
| 20:58.59 | claudio` | Tramp: yes, i think too |
| 20:58.59 | ma3x | what do you specify as device? |
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| 20:59.01 | Polarina | How do I disable hardware accelerationg for the cursor with nvidia driver? |
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| 20:59.09 | claudio` | It's a bug, as far as i can tell. |
| 20:59.56 | valdyn | ma3x: no, alsa-using programs do not use devices |
| 20:59.56 | valdyn | ma3x: alsa is an API |
| 20:59.56 | claudio` | mmh |
| 20:59.56 | claudio` | no |
| 20:59.56 | claudio` | it's NOT a bug, this is why the -depth flag is provided. |
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| 21:00.19 | Tramp | claudio`: but, did the "rm" actually fail? or were yo just annoyed by the error-messages |
| 21:00.19 | valdyn | claudio`: probably just a known shortcoming too that won't be fixed |
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| 21:00.52 | claudio` | Tramp: just error messages |
| 21:01.21 | Tramp | claudio`: well, then it's perfectly alright. You rm the dir just under find's ass. That's what it complains about. |
| 21:01.31 | Asmooh | how do i only unpack an .deb file? |
| 21:01.48 | claudio` | Tramp: yes, everything is clean! |
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| 21:01.52 | claudio` | THX both valdyn and Tramp |
| 21:01.54 | claudio` | ;) |
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| 21:03.16 | benjamindees | Asmooh, man ar |
| 21:03.22 | Asmooh | have it already |
| 21:03.24 | Asmooh | --extract |
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| 21:07.19 | Algorizmy | hi |
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| 21:09.18 | nico__ | hello |
| 21:09.55 | nico__ | is gnome-control-center broken in -testing? |
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| 21:10.13 | nico__ | i can't get gnome-keyboard-properties to start since i upgraded :-/ |
| 21:10.38 | OBcecado | is there anything i should so i can get the system installed ? |
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| 21:11.02 | OBcecado | i'm still getting a freeze after i select which packages to install |
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| 21:11.36 | benjamindees | OBcecado, are you using the gui installer? have you tried text-mode? |
| 21:11.56 | OBcecado | i'm using text mode |
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| 21:12.24 | benjamindees | OBcecado, have you checked the discs? |
| 21:12.46 | OBcecado | it's a out-of-box laptop |
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| 21:12.53 | OBcecado | the disks should be ok |
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| 21:13.09 | benjamindees | no, the installation media |
| 21:13.50 | OBcecado | i'll try that |
| 21:14.01 | benjamindees | it's a boot option iirc |
| 21:14.20 | liable | OBcecado: which packages are you chosing? |
| 21:14.37 | sine | ive just been given a p2 333 which im gonna make into a lite devbian box with minimal instlal |
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| 21:14.57 | toad_ | what tool do i use to un-base64 a file? |
| 21:15.01 | stiv2k | does anyone know if nm-applet works with b43 driver? |
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| 21:15.32 | liable | b43 is flakey at best |
| 21:15.49 | liable | if your using the latest from their site maybe |
| 21:15.59 | liable | or the wireless-dev kernel |
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| 21:16.12 | sine | but i cant get it to boot any cds at all says APTPI error why is this |
| 21:16.34 | stiv2k | for me it connects and then immediately disconnects |
| 21:16.55 | benjamindees | sine, booting cds on some older hardware is flaky |
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| 21:17.41 | OBcecado | i'm installing with base packages + laptop |
| 21:17.51 | sine | so |
| 21:17.53 | sine | um |
| 21:18.04 | guillaume1 | My kernel crash with ipw3945 : http://pastebin.com/d49fc15d9. It occur when I make heavy usage of my wifi connection : more than 30 connections and 1500 ko/s. |
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| 21:18.09 | OBcecado | it's the ones installer selects automatically |
| 21:18.42 | liable | guillaume1: i believe thats quite a common problem with that chip and indeed the older ones as well |
| 21:18.44 | comsa | sine could be a hardware problem |
| 21:18.48 | benjamindees | sine, try something like smartbootmanager |
| 21:18.53 | liable | guillaume1: post the bug the the intel site |
| 21:19.01 | benjamindees | sine, or make a boot floppy |
| 21:19.06 | liable | !tell Raphael_S about away |
| 21:19.21 | sine | yea but i just stripped the floppy out thinking i wont need it |
| 21:19.33 | sine | its got windows98 on it in german and i need to get the files off for them |
| 21:19.34 | guillaume1 | liable: ok |
| 21:19.41 | sine | was gonna livecd and stick in usb stick |
| 21:20.04 | OBcecado | image is ok |
| 21:20.09 | OBcecado | just finished checking |
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| 21:20.44 | liable | guillaume1: there is a mailing list for those cards. there is also a new driver that should make the mainline kernel soon. try it and see if it still crashes. http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi |
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| 21:21.50 | spx2 | how do I play RealPlayer files ? |
| 21:22.05 | liable | !w2codecs |
| 21:22.13 | liable | !w32codecs |
| 21:22.13 | dpkg | w32codecs is probably a non-free package that is not distributed by Debian due to legal issues. The package provides codecs for several multimedia formats, such as AVI, Realmedia, and Windows Media. To get w32codecs, ask me about <debian-multimedia> |
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| 21:23.04 | liable | root___: log out and log in as user before you irc |
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| 21:25.15 | spx2 | I know w32codecs |
| 21:25.21 | spx2 | I have installed that thing |
| 21:25.34 | liable | ... |
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| 21:26.38 | sine | ok how the hell did they install windows on here in the first place if i cant use a bootcd |
| 21:26.56 | dondelelcaro | sine: they imaged the drive directly, almost assuredly |
| 21:27.15 | mainer | usbkey?? |
| 21:27.16 | sine | what, no fecking way, is that how they used to oem them on 8gig drives |
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| 21:27.40 | mainer | boot-floppy to load cd-driver>install?? |
| 21:27.57 | dondelelcaro | sine: that's always how they've done installs |
| 21:28.04 | sine | i just took the floppy out and i dont have any floppy disk drives anyway |
| 21:28.26 | dondelelcaro | you make one image that's the way you want it, and image onto craploads of drives |
| 21:28.43 | sine | i suppose it makes sense |
| 21:28.59 | sine | there has to be a way to load a boot disk if you can choose boot from CDROM |
| 21:29.12 | sine | it says APTPI error or somthing |
| 21:29.24 | mainer | atapi? |
| 21:29.33 | sine | yea i cant rmeember |
| 21:29.45 | benjamindees | sine, try an older version, or a different distro; like I said, it's flaky |
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| 21:29.53 | sine | im not at the bios screen im at the windows98 you failed to shutdownproperlyfixscreen |
| 21:30.02 | sine | ive tried differentboot disks |
| 21:30.20 | OBcecado | some times it's the ata cable that is damaged |
| 21:30.58 | mainer | or loose connection |
| 21:31.49 | sine | Sec Master Drive - ATAPI Incompatible |
| 21:32.06 | sine | time for google |
| 21:32.29 | efaistos | when you upgrade a new pkg and you choose the new maintainer config file is there a bckup of mine somewhere ? |
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| 21:33.07 | efaistos | when you upgrade a new pkg and you choose the new maintainer config file is there a bckup of mine somewhere ? |
| 21:33.38 | mainer | not afaik |
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| 21:35.42 | OBcecado | lol! |
| 21:35.48 | OBcecado | when i run the gui install |
| 21:35.51 | OBcecado | it doesn't freeze |
| 21:36.15 | benjamindees | isn't that ironic |
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| 21:36.21 | mainer | indeed |
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| 21:36.42 | mainer | and surprising :P |
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| 21:37.42 | Tramp | isn't that <config>.dpkg-old? |
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| 21:39.26 | Obligatory | Networking question: in sid, no DHCP, I want to set 'eth0' to IP address 192.168.0.100 ... what config file is the standard place for that? |
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| 21:41.08 | \amethyst | !interfaces |
| 21:41.08 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client> read "man resolv.conf" for DNS also ask me about <static route> |
| 21:41.11 | Tramp | Obligatory: I don't run sid, but most likely still /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:41.45 | valdyn | efaistos: sure |
| 21:41.52 | valdyn | efaistos: /etc/config.dpkg-old |
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| 21:42.13 | Obligatory | dpkg, Tramp, thx, will test... |
| 21:42.20 | valdyn | efaistos: vs config.dpkg-new if you do chose not to use the new version |
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| 21:44.12 | efaistos | valdyn: thanks |
| 21:45.41 | liable | Obligatory: why no dhcp in sid? |
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| 21:47.00 | Obligatory | dpkg, Tramp, old 'etherconf' code in there, (no 'etherconf' in 'sid' AFAIK), nothing fancy. Tweaking that doesn't work though I'll go look for a standard file... |
| 21:47.08 | Obligatory | liable, ppp. |
| 21:47.52 | liable | eh? |
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| 21:48.54 | Obligatory | liable, dialup, modem, uses ppp not DHCP. |
| 21:49.35 | liable | Obligatory: your initial post is very confusing then.. |
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| 21:50.31 | liable | why did you mention eth0 if you want to usee ppp? |
| 21:50.46 | Obligatory | liable, well... the system will have a dhcp server, but that's besides the point if I lack an IP. |
| 21:50.55 | liable | and a c class address |
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| 21:51.33 | liable | Obligatory: you are still being vague, what exactly are you wanting to do? |
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| 21:52.54 | nico__ | anyone having problems with gnome-keyboard-properties in lenny? looks like gnome-control-center is broken :-/ i found a hint about trying to upgrade it to sid's version, but then apt does not only try to upgrade that package but half of the distro too :-/ |
| 21:53.27 | nico__ | any idea how to fix this without having to install 23923925 -unstable packages? |
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| 21:54.06 | benjamindees | !simple sid backport |
| 21:54.06 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
| 21:54.13 | monokrome | Is it possible to have one interface listening over multiple IP addresses? |
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| 21:54.27 | monokrome | so <someIP> goes to site1.com, and <someotherIP> goes to site2.com |
| 21:54.31 | dondelelcaro | monokrome: yes |
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| 21:54.49 | monokrome | dondelelcaro: I can't find an article explaining it. Anything you might know to get me started? |
| 21:54.52 | Ben_Cs | hello |
| 21:54.59 | Obligatory | liable, to get an IP address automatically assigned on my main system. I can do it from the command line with 'ifconfig' but I'm not sure where to permanently cofigure it for Debian, or rather what's the best, most standard way. |
| 21:55.02 | dondelelcaro | monokrome: you just use interface aliases, like eth0:0 |
| 21:55.37 | monokrome | in the config file(s)? |
| 21:55.45 | Ben_Cs | i downloaded etch 4.0r1. if i do installgui can i choose there what desktop i want (kde/gnome)? |
| 21:55.46 | liable | Obligatory: you can certainly do that in interfaces file as valdyn suggested via the factoid dpkg gave |
| 21:55.52 | monokrome | I'll google it. |
| 21:55.55 | monokrome | Thanks dondelelcaro! |
| 21:56.05 | liable | Obligatory: where does the ppp come into it? |
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| 21:56.07 | gpm | Ben_Cs: of course. apt-get install kde or apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment |
| 21:57.04 | gpm | the installer will call tasksel which can install something called "desktop environment", i believe that installs gnome |
| 21:57.36 | benjamindees | so, no |
| 21:57.46 | gpm | actually, yes, you can choose |
| 21:57.52 | dserban | xingu: are you still kickin'? |
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| 21:58.13 | gpm | probably a way to make the desktop task install kde, but i don't know what it is. but there's always aptitude/apt-get |
| 21:58.34 | gpm | just don't install the desktop task and install gnome|kde later. you have to learn how to use aptitude anyway |
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| 21:58.43 | gpm | and it's *really* easy |
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| 21:59.13 | Ben_Cs | gpm: i mean, when i install through graphical installer - there's several installation options. one of them is "desktop environment". so can i choose there that i want kde or will it install gnome by default? |
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| 21:59.43 | dondelelcaro | Ben_Cs: no, you can't. IIRC, by default it installs both. |
| 21:59.46 | Nyle | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.58 | dondelelcaro | Ben_Cs: if you want finer grained control, use aptitude to install what you want. |
| 22:00.12 | gpm | Ben_Cs: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2006/11/msg00030.html |
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| 22:00.58 | nico__ | benjamindees, apt-get build-dep gnome-control-center => 43 upgraded, 137 newly installed :-/ |
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| 22:01.41 | nico__ | benjamindees, oops nevermind, made a mistake in sources.list |
| 22:01.56 | gpm | Ben_Cs: eh, i'd just install it with aptitude later. it seems like tasksel is still a WIP |
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| 22:02.38 | Ben_Cs | ok thanks |
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| 22:07.11 | jeffwheeler | Is there any way to get all GTK input widgets (Sid, GNOME 2.20) to do grammar checking like they do spell-checking, similar to how M$ word handles it (red underlines misspelled, green has grammar errors)? I doubt it. |
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| 22:09.45 | dondelelcaro | jeffwheeler: I'm not sure that anyone has written a grammar checker that doesn't suck completely |
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| 22:10.23 | jeffwheeler | dondelelcaro: true, but then again I didn't mind M$s that much, either -- it worked decently |
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| 22:10.28 | dondelelcaro | jeffwheeler: the first thing would be to find such a library that was licensed appropriately, and I don't believe one exists |
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| 22:10.35 | spacemonkey | what repo has pidgin? |
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| 22:11.07 | chantanito | spacemonkey: testing repos :) |
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| 22:11.15 | unseensoul | hi |
| 22:11.16 | azeem | spacemonkey: pidgin is available as gaim for stable |
| 22:11.22 | spacemonkey | URL? |
| 22:11.26 | streuner | spacemonkey: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 22:11.36 | azeem | spacemonkey: repos don't work with urls |
| 22:11.45 | spacemonkey | ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 22:11.45 | jeffwheeler | spacemonkey: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/pidgin |
| 22:11.47 | Lunar_Lamp | I've just taken over a debian server (3.1), and after trying to upgrade it says taht dpkg was interrupted and that I must run "dpkg --configure -a" to fix it. I ran this, and it seems to get 'stuck' on update-initramfs whilst generating the initrd.img file (i,e, it's been there for 15mins now and no progress). How can I fix this? |
| 22:11.56 | azeem | spacemonkey: 00:08 < azeem> spacemonkey: pidgin is available as gaim for stable |
| 22:12.00 | streuner | spacemonkey: so follow the advice of azeem |
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| 22:12.14 | chantanito | spacemonkey: yeah, it's the same Gaim |
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| 22:12.35 | jeffwheeler | spacemonkey: well, it's at least a relatively old version |
| 22:12.42 | Obligatory | Tramp, dpkg , thx again, solved... took time because I missed an 's/eth1/eth0/' typo. |
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| 22:17.48 | spacemonkey | I'm trying to install the pidgin .deb and im getting this |
| 22:17.51 | spacemonkey | http://rafb.net/p/FvRKmB54.html |
| 22:18.20 | azeem | spacemonkey: did you even read what we said? |
| 22:18.45 | spacemonkey | some of it, i was busy downloading |
| 22:18.49 | spacemonkey | the .deb |
| 22:18.53 | azeem | maybe review it then |
| 22:19.23 | spacemonkey | your defintely not an asshole |
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| 22:24.12 | verte | hi all :) is there an easy way to get dri working on debian? driconf says it doesn't detect and dri compatible devices, but my card is supposed to be compatible. |
| 22:24.26 | verte | s/and/any |
| 22:27.09 | verte | oh sillyness. I will try a lower colour depth. |
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| 22:35.15 | shamshir | hello! |
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| 22:35.45 | shamshir | I just setup a postfix imap mailserver on etch |
| 22:35.59 | shamshir | I have some big trouble |
| 22:36.15 | shamshir | its doing something strange |
| 22:36.17 | gpm | hey guys when i install compiz and run compiz.real --replace, it doesn't run a window manager...i have compiz-core and compiz-gnome installed, do i need anything else? on sid |
| 22:36.39 | valdyn | gpm: how do you know that it's not running a window manager? no window borders? |
| 22:36.52 | gpm | valdyn: yeah, and no alt-tab etc. |
| 22:36.54 | valdyn | gpm: and why do you run compiz.real instead of 'compiz' ? |
| 22:37.03 | gpm | valdyn: either way i get the same result |
| 22:37.04 | shamshir | in top I have 20 to 25% of the CPU used |
| 22:37.09 | gpm | compiz.real is just what i ran last |
| 22:37.11 | valdyn | gpm: use just compiz anyway |
| 22:37.17 | shamshir | most by postfix user |
| 22:37.24 | gpm | same result, tried both |
| 22:37.26 | azeem | gpm: make sure you have DRI and AIGLX |
| 22:37.34 | shamshir | etch install was fresh thought! |
| 22:37.36 | valdyn | gpm: compiz is entirely based on plugins, you need to load them |
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| 22:37.47 | valdyn | gpm: ..which is yet not solved conveniently |
| 22:37.57 | gpm | there's not a good documentation source i suppose? |
| 22:38.10 | azeem | there should be a set of default plugins though, unless you mess with it |
| 22:38.12 | gpm | the README.Debian wasn't too helpful |
| 22:38.19 | valdyn | gpm: try running gtk-window-decorator after starting compiz |
| 22:38.26 | azeem | gpm: what does glxinfo | grep direct; say? |
| 22:38.36 | valdyn | gpm: the plugins are in gconf-editor |
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| 22:38.51 | azeem | or does compiz refuse to start if there's no AIGLX, and leaves the current WM alone? |
| 22:38.54 | valdyn | gpm: dependencies among those are listed too |
| 22:38.55 | gpm | valdyn: according to ps, it's running |
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| 22:39.03 | valdyn | gpm: restart it |
| 22:39.15 | shamshir | /var/log/mail.log is hell havy and stuff are always added to it rendering it impossible to use |
| 22:39.15 | gpm | azeem: well, that's cool, but i wish it would've warned me before killing my wm |
| 22:39.23 | gpm | valdyn: ok. |
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| 22:39.30 | valdyn | shamshir: duh |
| 22:39.31 | azeem | gpm: are you running stable? |
| 22:39.44 | valdyn | shamshir: there's plenty text processing tools for logfiles |
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| 22:40.19 | valdyn | gpm: mind, gconf-editor is only used, if you start the gconf plugin first, like 'compiz --replace gconf' |
| 22:40.41 | gpm | valdyn: gtk-window-decorator: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a decoration manager |
| 22:40.46 | valdyn | gpm: its 'compiz --replace <list of plugins>' actually, but dependencies are not solved autmagically, though error messages may be useful |
| 22:40.57 | shamshir | valdyn, do you have any idea from where it can comme from |
| 22:40.59 | shamshir | ? |
| 22:41.02 | valdyn | gpm: killall gtk-window-decorator |
| 22:41.13 | valdyn | shamshir: where WHAT can come from |
| 22:41.19 | azeem | valdyn: on which version of Debian do you have to specify compiz plugins to get at least window decorations? |
| 22:41.46 | valdyn | azeem: i have no idea |
| 22:41.56 | valdyn | azeem: he would tell me an error message if there was one, wouldnt he |
| 22:41.57 | atoponce | how can i tell what package provides a file? like /bin/bash? |
| 22:41.59 | shamshir | valdyn, in top I have 20 to 25% of the CPU used by postfix user |
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| 22:42.08 | valdyn | shamshir: so what |
| 22:42.11 | gpm | valdyn: from the man page: If the package compiz-gtk is installed, the wrapper will automatically start the gtk-window-decorator. |
| 22:42.14 | shamshir | when my etch install was fresh |
| 22:42.16 | gpm | valdyn: i have compiz-gtk |
| 22:42.17 | valdyn | shamshir: i cant help you without information |
| 22:42.27 | atoponce | dpkg -f <file> isn't it |
| 22:42.29 | azeem | valdyn: why are you so sure that it's not AIGLX which is missing? |
| 22:42.37 | valdyn | azeem: the error message would say that |
| 22:42.42 | azeem | ok |
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| 22:43.06 | valdyn | azeem: its a pretty clear error message too |
| 22:43.19 | shamshir | valdyn, I know sorry, but can I stop all the postfix process at once |
| 22:43.21 | gpm | azeem: i didn't add any aiglx stuff to xorg.conf, and i have an nvidia card...maybe i need to re-edit xorg.conf? wiki.d.o seems to think so |
| 22:43.29 | shamshir | to be able to look in th logs |
| 22:43.31 | atoponce | anyone? |
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| 22:43.44 | azeem | atoponce: man dpkg |
| 22:43.46 | valdyn | gpm: you really should get an error message if something is wrong there |
| 22:43.46 | Nyle | aiglx is built into nvidia drivers once I read |
| 22:43.48 | gpm | azeem: i have a pretty old nvidia card though, gf4 mx420 |
| 22:43.54 | gpm | valdyn: k |
| 22:44.00 | atoponce | azeem: i've looked. that's why i'm asking here. i can't find the answer |
| 22:44.06 | Nyle | gpm: is that card supported by compiz type stuff? |
| 22:44.18 | azeem | atoponce: /msg dpkg search |
| 22:44.26 | atoponce | *sigh* |
| 22:44.35 | gpm | Nyle: i'm not sure...somehow it worked in ubuntu, so my guess is yes |
| 22:44.42 | gpm | but i don't know what measures ubuntu went to |
| 22:44.43 | azeem | atoponce: what's wrong with that? |
| 22:44.48 | Riga | fun |
| 22:45.07 | atoponce | what's wrong with just the answer? isn't this a support channel? |
| 22:45.09 | Nyle | *sigh* not, before you judge |
| 22:45.11 | Nyle | !search |
| 22:45.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'aptitude install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>. see http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
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| 22:45.49 | Nyle | rather, don't judge and sigh before you've done what you are told to do |
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| 22:49.23 | zumbi__ | is there any program to compare debian version numbers? for example, to know if 2.3.1 is lower that 3.1.1 within a bash script |
| 22:49.50 | azeem | zumbi__: dpkg --compare-versions |
| 22:50.42 | zumbi__ | yes, that what i was looking for, thanks |
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| 22:51.06 | zumbi__ | does it take care of epochs? |
| 22:51.14 | yassine | good evening everyone |
| 22:51.33 | yassine | im wondering why i can not find pidgin package in etch? |
| 22:51.34 | azeem | zumbi__: did you try? |
| 22:51.45 | azeem | yassine: it's called gaim in etch |
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| 22:52.54 | zumbi__ | azeem: i'm reading man page |
| 22:53.09 | azeem | or that |
| 22:54.04 | zumbi__ | dpkg --compare-versions 2.3.1 lt 2.1.1 ? |
| 22:54.34 | azeem | why is that a question? |
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| 22:55.28 | zumbi__ | because it has no output |
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| 22:55.51 | azeem | zumbi__: that is expected, what counts is the error level |
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| 22:55.57 | azeem | run echo $? afterwards |
| 22:56.26 | zumbi__ | oh! ok, thanks :-) |
| 22:56.52 | yassine | azeem, thanks |
| 22:57.01 | azeem | cheers |
| 22:57.42 | auto359 | hi, what is the correct etch-backports repository for the us based users? |
| 22:57.58 | abrotman | backports.org |
| 22:58.05 | auto359 | ah thanks |
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| 22:58.31 | auto359 | am having *major* hassles getting sun-javaX-jdk on my system |
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| 23:00.04 | abrotman | auto359: it's in non-free |
| 23:00.07 | abrotman | !tell auto359 about install java |
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| 23:01.11 | auto359 | abrotman: thanks |
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| 23:01.25 | netrat | Hello! I have two interfaces I'm trying to load balancing over with the gateway box doing SNAT for the LAN. Here are the rules I've setup so far http://paste.debian.net/40015. The problem is packets try to go out on the eth2 interface with the external IP address of eth1 even though I've definied the routing rule. Any ideas?? Thanks |
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| 23:03.39 | abrotman | netrat: you might get more help in #iptables |
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| 23:03.48 | efaistos | hi lass |
| 23:03.49 | efaistos | :) |
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| 23:03.56 | maddash | !preferences |
| 23:04.05 | abrotman | maddash: need help ? |
| 23:04.28 | maddash | where's de eminent apt/preferences file used for apt-pinning? |
| 23:04.42 | abrotman | !tell maddash about pinning |
| 23:05.10 | abrotman | netrat: don't you have to do mangling? |
| 23:05.29 | netrat | abrotman: i don't think so |
| 23:05.45 | maddash | abrotman; I've already been there, but there's no existing /etc/apt/preference |
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| 23:05.49 | netrat | abrotman: for certain situations, but i didn't think i had to in this one |
| 23:05.53 | azeem | !creatit |
| 23:05.54 | abrotman | maddash: so just make it |
| 23:06.09 | uwe | hello, im trying to upgrade from etch to lenny, i ran into a strange problem, there is a bunch of packages that fail --configure with the error update-menus: /usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by update-menus) , the strange thing is that objdump -T /usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so.6| grep GLIBCXX_3.4.9 yields nothing !! |
| 23:06.30 | maddash | ok |
| 23:06.33 | Polarina | Hello. I disabled hardware cursor and it finally stops flickering on animated cursors, but other issues arrived. When I open up 'glxgears' (For example) and move the mouse inside the window, it disappears, if I move it around within the window then it flickers like mad again and the rendered image around the cursor clumps up into something ugly. Anyone could help me with that? |
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| 23:08.02 | auto359 | how do i ask "dpkg" a question? |
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| 23:08.17 | karsten | auto359: /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 23:08.27 | auto359 | karsten: thanks |
| 23:08.28 | karsten | auto359: /msg dpkg list <expression> to search for a factoid. |
| 23:08.40 | auto359 | karsten: thanks |
| 23:08.42 | karsten | auto359: You can glob the expression, so: /msg dpkg *print* |
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| 23:08.58 | karsten | auto359: erm, 'list *print*'. |
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| 23:09.06 | maddash | heh, that was easy |
| 23:09.09 | auto359 | haha, cheers |
| 23:09.11 | maddash | thanks, abrotman |
| 23:09.21 | nepbabu | are there any incompatibility in panther and openssh? |
| 23:09.30 | karsten | Um, panther? |
| 23:09.36 | nepbabu | i mean panther's sshd and panther? err.. osx |
| 23:09.46 | azeem | nepbabu: what does that have to do with Debian? |
| 23:09.58 | nameless | hi |
| 23:09.58 | nepbabu | azeem, because i am trying to hook up 2 boxes |
| 23:10.06 | nepbabu | debian <-> osx |
| 23:10.09 | karsten | nepbabu: Is there any particular reason to suspect there is? |
| 23:10.16 | nepbabu | karsten, yes indeed |
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| 23:10.18 | nameless | someone have got a problem with 2.6.22 kernel and ata disk ? |
| 23:10.26 | azeem | nameless: do you? |
| 23:10.29 | nepbabu | i ran sshd on osx and it wouldn't work? :/ |
| 23:10.36 | nepbabu | even -v says some errors |
| 23:10.40 | nameless | me yes |
| 23:10.43 | nepbabu | let me give you the exact error |
| 23:10.46 | azeem | nepbabu: that's where you pastebin the erorrs |
| 23:10.48 | karsten | nepbabu: Not that I'm aware. Run both the client and daemon in verbose mode, see what parts of the connection do and/or don't work, pastebin the logs. |
| 23:10.58 | karsten | !tell nepbabu about doesn't work. |
| 23:11.07 | nameless | the kernel use the ata disks as sata and don't boot |
| 23:11.08 | nameless | :( |
| 23:11.37 | nameless | the boots stops at "waiting for root file system" |
| 23:11.42 | lass | ? |
| 23:11.46 | azeem | nameless: did you build the kernel yourself? |
| 23:11.52 | nameless | no |
| 23:11.55 | nameless | aptitude |
| 23:12.06 | nameless | i use debian unstable |
| 23:12.17 | nameless | but the kernel was in testing repos |
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| 23:13.16 | h3sp4wn | nameless: setup grub and fstab to use either label's or uuid's |
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| 23:14.09 | nameless | ? |
| 23:14.52 | nameless | i don't understand |
| 23:14.54 | nameless | :S |
| 23:15.04 | h3sp4wn | maybe you shouldn't run sid then |
| 23:15.11 | nameless | no |
| 23:15.18 | nameless | now i'm from 2.6.18 |
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| 23:15.35 | nameless | the error is in the 2.6.22 |
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| 23:15.48 | nepbabu | karsten, ok turning verbose mode on, it says ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host. this is from osx -> debian sshd |
| 23:15.57 | yigal | nameless: were you trying to install nvidia on a 6.22? |
| 23:16.04 | nameless | no |
| 23:16.17 | yigal | oh, never mind that was 6.21 that the problem existed |
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| 23:17.14 | Polarina | Hello. I disabled hardware cursor and it finally stops flickering on animated cursors, but other issues arrived. When I open up 'glxgears' (For example) and move the mouse inside the window, it disappears, if I move it around within the window then it flickers like mad again and the rendered image around the cursor clumps up into something ugly. Anyone could help me with that? |
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| 23:18.21 | magyar | hi, i had to reinstall the "sudo" package because it was segfaulting. Is there a way to find out which packages are corrupt? |
| 23:18.29 | nepbabu | very strange |
| 23:18.42 | nepbabu | it runs fine on deb <-> deb |
| 23:18.44 | nepbabu | :/ |
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| 23:19.18 | yigal | magyar: sorry to hear that sounds crazy |
| 23:19.34 | magyar | hmm? |
| 23:19.59 | auto359 | any news when debian 64bit will be easy to make java'd up, with browser plugins etc, without chrooting around? |
| 23:20.08 | karsten | nepbabu: Run your Debian sshd in non-daemon debug mode from a shell, as root. |
| 23:20.26 | nepbabu | karsten, doing just that. :) |
| 23:20.27 | yigal | auto359: for new laptop consideration I would also like to know :) |
| 23:20.31 | magyar | easy > microsoft vista |
| 23:20.38 | karsten | nepbabu: This will terminate after the first connection attempt. If you're taking lots of connections, RTFM for sshd and sort how to boost its logging verbosity. |
| 23:20.41 | magyar | this is #debian |
| 23:20.45 | magyar | -_- |
| 23:20.54 | karsten | nepbabu: Pastebin the session log for the daemon and sort why it dropped the connection. |
| 23:21.13 | karsten | magyar: Damnit! And here I thought it was Radio Clash on pirate satellite. |
| 23:21.16 | nepbabu | karsten, sure |
| 23:21.34 | yigal | karsten: it isn't ? |
| 23:21.35 | magyar | eheeh |
| 23:21.53 | karsten | Polarina: debsums |
| 23:22.13 | karsten | !tell Polarina about debsums |
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| 23:22.15 | magyar | lets not digress, back to my original issue please |
| 23:22.23 | magyar | hi, i had to reinstall the "sudo" package because it was segfaulting. Is there a way to find out which packages are corrupt? |
| 23:22.25 | karsten | Polarina: You might also want to strace sudo and see where it's segfaulting. |
| 23:22.43 | karsten | Polarina: ERm, nevermind. |
| 23:22.45 | Polarina | karsten: When did I say it was segfaulting. |
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| 23:22.53 | karsten | magyar: ^^ misdirected to Polarina |
| 23:22.59 | karsten | Polarina: You didn't. I misread attribution. |
| 23:23.02 | steinchen | hi all.. i want to strip out parts from "TVPN03318F87E00958070<EOT>" - which are '03318F87' and '00958070' (hex) ..whats the easiest way? |
| 23:23.06 | karsten | !tell magyar about debsums |
| 23:23.23 | abrotman | steinchen: are they always the same characters ? |
| 23:23.33 | abrotman | magyar: and run memtest |
| 23:23.35 | steinchen | no |
| 23:23.42 | abrotman | steinchen: always the same positions ? |
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| 23:23.57 | magyar | karsten: is there a "recursive option" ? |
| 23:24.10 | steinchen | abrotman, just TVPN , 8 hex, E, 8 hex... yes always same positions |
| 23:24.25 | abrotman | steinchen: man cut .. should be able to help you |
| 23:24.26 | magyar | abrotman: i am farr away, is trere a way to run memtest on a ssh console? |
| 23:24.31 | abrotman | magyar: yes |
| 23:24.31 | karsten | magyar: *if* it's multiple applications segfaulting, you've likely got either a library error or memory erros. If 'ldd' shows common libs for the apps in question, you may have a corrupted lib file. If it's lots of random a[s and you've got errors in /var/log/kern.log, you should suspect hardware. |
| 23:24.33 | steinchen | k |
| 23:24.43 | karsten | magyar: Sorry? Not that I'm aware. |
| 23:24.57 | steinchen | thought you might have some "oneliner" .. |
| 23:24.57 | abrotman | does debsums need to be recursive ? |
| 23:25.07 | karsten | steinchen: cut or awk (which can do field manipulation magick). |
| 23:25.11 | magyar | karsten: the issues is, i have no clue which ones are bad, but "sudo" became corrupt |
| 23:25.13 | abrotman | steinchen: well .. i could .. but you can do it just as easily :) |
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| 23:25.33 | karsten | magyar: run debums on your full system then. |
| 23:25.34 | steinchen | :) |
| 23:25.53 | karsten | magyar: Disadvantage is that not all packages have md5sums / sha1sums, though many do these days. |
| 23:25.59 | magyar | abrotman: will it clock me out? |
| 23:26.06 | abrotman | clock you out? |
| 23:26.16 | abrotman | log you out ? |
| 23:26.23 | magyar | karsten: you are the bomb |
| 23:26.30 | abrotman | karsten: mexican for lunch again? |
| 23:26.36 | magyar | abrotman: memtest, could it hang the system? |
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| 23:26.46 | karsten | magyar: BOOM! |
| 23:26.51 | karsten | abrotman: No, danish |
| 23:26.54 | abrotman | magyar: uhm .. maybe .. i've never had it do that to me |
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| 23:27.28 | magyar | k guys, thanks for broadening my knowledge :) |
| 23:27.52 | rtmex | Hello all, How can I list using find all files that has modification date grater than the user's last conexion? |
| 23:27.53 | DawnLight | hello |
| 23:28.14 | diafic | bed now. SNORE |
| 23:28.32 | DawnLight | rtmex: how would that be? |
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| 23:29.17 | rtmex | DawnLight, I guess maybe another user with w permissions for that file |
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| 23:29.51 | DawnLight | well, you'd have to man find and look at the expressions section |
| 23:30.24 | DawnLight | and about the user's last login, i don't know. perhaps there is a log of that somewhere? |
| 23:30.42 | DawnLight | actually i know there is |
| 23:31.02 | rtmex | Dawnlight: that's what I did not find reading the man find :) taht's why I'm asking :) |
| 23:31.25 | DawnLight | oh you looked first and asked later?? |
| 23:31.40 | DawnLight | i'll look |
| 23:31.56 | rtmex | I always do, I read man and look for info, if I canñt find what I need, I ask for help to others |
| 23:32.15 | DawnLight | fine example. did everyone get that? |
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| 23:33.28 | rtmex | I guess that's the way it should be, if you are too lazy to read first, you are going to have many much problems that if yo do |
| 23:33.34 | DawnLight | rtmex: there are some tests in the TESTS section |
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| 23:34.10 | DawnLight | tell me about it. i've typed "rm -r $vault*"... |
| 23:34.18 | rtmex | Danwlight: I'll check that section again, maybe i missed something :) |
| 23:34.22 | dserban | xingu: 'round? |
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| 23:36.31 | DawnLight | rtmex: what does "accessed" mean? viewd/modified? |
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| 23:37.33 | DawnLight | rtmex: -anewer may help? |
| 23:38.05 | rtmex | I thinks "accessed" could be viewd, modified, executed, or anything that used the file, I only need to match if explicity was modified |
| 23:38.45 | DawnLight | rtmex: does ext3 keep record of explicitly that? |
| 23:39.17 | dserban | dondelelcaro: still here? |
| 23:40.00 | DawnLight | rtmex: -mmin does that |
| 23:40.01 | dserban | dondelelcaro: can you help me with my previous query? I was asking what I needed to do with a router config when I was provided a /30 as well as a /24? |
| 23:40.02 | rtmex | DawnLight: yes, check -newer file |
| 23:40.55 | rtmex | mmin does it in minutes, I need to check for dates |
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| 23:41.32 | carlosV2 | hi, gn8 :) |
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| 23:42.09 | carlosV2 | i need a script for debian lenny for xgl. somebody know how i can get it? |
| 23:42.11 | lindenle | Hi I am getting 'Dynamic MMap ran out of room' error with apt-get, any ideas? |
| 23:42.19 | abrotman | carlosV2: xgl is not in debian |
| 23:42.30 | carlosV2 | not in debian? |
| 23:42.41 | limpio | lindenle, check the APT-HOWTO Section 7 |
| 23:42.41 | carlosV2 | but i want to put it |
| 23:42.56 | abrotman | !tell carlosV2 about xgl |
| 23:43.03 | abrotman | and i thought xgl was soon to be dead ? |
| 23:43.08 | abrotman | !mmap |
| 23:43.08 | dpkg | Getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get? Put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . If you still get the same error, increase the value. If that file doesn't exist, add it, or put that line in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ You can also possibly get rid of this error by deleting entries from your sources.list that you don't actually need. |
| 23:43.24 | helo | anyone use pxe booting with debian? |
| 23:43.32 | dondelelcaro | dserban: yeah, best to just ask, though |
| 23:44.09 | rtmex | If ther where something like mday :) |
| 23:44.32 | dserban | dondelelcaro: k my apologies, I do know better, but my explanation is a killer one, figured I'd ask you since you may remember the convo. |
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| 23:45.26 | dserban | I've setup the /30 and the /24 as you had suggested. Routing doesn't work, and it's obvious that the isp is advertising the ip block since the .1 ip (the interface connected to the /24 servers) pings back through another isp... it's the others that should route through the router that don't work. |
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| 23:46.33 | helo | the clients get their address from my dhcp service, download their pxelinux.0, and then try to get another address through dhcp... but my dhcp3-server errors with "no free leases" |
| 23:46.46 | dserban | I've looked at the routing table, and don't really know what to look for. I've assigned the gateway of eth2 (the /24 interface connecte to the switch for the servers) to be one of the ip's in the interconnect which is the isp's router. Sound right? |
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| 23:46.48 | karsten | limpio: echo "APT::Cache-Limit 50331648;" >> /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 23:46.52 | CaT_MaN | Hi all, my question: Is this logical.. when i use 2 NICs (one for the real IP address and one for the local IP address - connect to mysql) my server work slow and not good.. and when i make both addresses on One NIC (eth0 and eth0:1) the server works fine... |
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| 23:47.40 | rvalles | CaT_MaN: define The Server. |
| 23:48.02 | CaT_MaN | linux server.. |
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| 23:48.18 | rvalles | CaT_MaN: thanks, that was indeed very helpful. |
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| 23:48.25 | rvalles | (no, it wasn't.) |
| 23:48.40 | limpio | karsten, ???? i wasn't the one asking for that |
| 23:49.02 | CaT_MaN | i know.. i want to know only that.. is there a logic or i have mistakes on my firewall settings... |
| 23:49.12 | karsten | limpio: Sorry, was lindenle. |
| 23:49.22 | limpio | karmatronic, np |
| 23:49.31 | rvalles | I do not know enough about your problem to help you, CaT_MaN. |
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| 23:49.44 | limpio | karsten, np |
| 23:49.57 | karsten | limpio: Heh. |
| 23:50.01 | limpio | karmatronic, never mind, typo |
| 23:50.02 | CaT_MaN | generaly... its not debian distro.. and u will tell me to ask to other channel :) |
| 23:50.17 | rvalles | CaT_MaN: I still don't know which services are being slow. |
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| 23:50.25 | carlosV2 | dpkg, do you read me in private channel? |
| 23:50.35 | xdr | omg, I just realised... my cat is named nix |
| 23:50.40 | rvalles | and yes, you should be asking on whatever the channel is for the distro you're using, CaT_MaN. |
| 23:51.21 | CaT_MaN | rvalles: i have Web server.. with php applications.. and those apps connect to the other (mysql) server |
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| 23:51.42 | CaT_MaN | via 192.168.x.x address |
| 23:51.54 | shamshir | hello, I'd like to flush my mailq |
| 23:52.04 | shamshir | I have a postfix server on etch |
| 23:52.12 | shamshir | I can't understand |
| 23:52.18 | CaT_MaN | I have 2 NICs |
| 23:52.23 | shamshir | which command I shalll use :( |
| 23:52.27 | rvalles | CaT_MaN: so there are two computers in 192.168.0.1/16, one runs a web server with php on linux and the other runs mysql. |
| 23:52.32 | rvalles | CaT_MaN: ? |
| 23:52.53 | carlosV2 | xgl is the same if i have ATI or if i have NVIDIA? |
| 23:53.13 | CaT_MaN | yes... but web server have and real IP address example: 90.91.x.x |
| 23:53.34 | rvalles | CaT_MaN: so the 192.168 IPs aren't real? |
| 23:53.42 | rvalles | ... |
| 23:53.58 | CaT_MaN | and when both addresses are hardware separated (NIC for each address) |
| 23:54.15 | rvalles | understood that part just fine, thanks. |
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| 23:55.24 | CaT_MaN | so... when i make both addresses on one NIC all works fine.. but if the are on separated NICs working is not good |
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| 23:56.06 | uwe | shamshir, i googled for flush mail queue postfix , hit the first result (www.akadia.com/services/postfix_mta.html) looked into the doc for the word flush, and got the answer on the second hit :) |
| 23:56.08 | CaT_MaN | so... i suspect my firewall rules.. if that (low performance) is not logical |
| 23:56.29 | Canadian | CaT_MaN |
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| 23:56.55 | rvalles | CaT_MaN: did you at least try and restart the services after bringing eth1 up? |
| 23:57.29 | Canadian | CaT_MaN both internal IP's need to be on diffrent subnets if they are on two diffrent NIC on the firewall. |
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| 23:57.42 | CaT_MaN | rvalles: yes.. still not good |
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| 23:58.14 | shamshir | uwe, thx I read the man but I was confused I look into this |
| 23:58.18 | rvalles | Canadian: to me it looks like he has a very simple setup with only a local network. |
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| 23:58.41 | rvalles | where one computer is also acting as a gateway to the net... typical home setup. |
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| 23:59.05 | uwe | shamshir, good luck |
| 23:59.46 | Canadian | CaT_MaN can you drawup a quick network diagram for me? |
