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| 00:01.53 | sturek_ | hi ppl. i'm gonna buy a s-video tomorrow to connect my ati radeon x600 to a tv. is this easy to do in debian? (I googled, but didn't find any good howto -- if you know of any, please tell me!) |
| 00:01.57 | spx2 | I discovered that whenever I want to go to bed I can do a |
| 00:02.11 | spx2 | xterm -e "sleep 220;sudo halt;" |
| 00:02.12 | spx2 | :) |
| 00:02.19 | spx2 | and listen radio in the meantime |
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| 00:04.45 | wols | sturek_: it's an ati card. nothing is easy |
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| 00:05.35 | sturek_ | wols: ok. then I just gonna forget about it... |
| 00:06.08 | sturek_ | wols: which card would you recommend, that is; debian-friendly? |
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| 00:07.44 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.50 | huslu | can anybody tell me if MADEKEV is supposed to be missing from /dev in lenny/testing? |
| 00:09.48 | huslu | MADEKEV=MAKEDEV |
| 00:10.00 | abrotman | i have it in lenny |
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| 00:10.35 | stiv2k | omg... *WTF* is this.... why does my network connection keep dropping when downloading stuff on bittorrent (using ndiswrapper + bcmwl5) |
| 00:11.06 | abrotman | maybe cause oyu're using a windows driver in linux ? |
| 00:11.06 | huslu | well here is the difference for me, i use debootstrap for etch and i get makedev in /dev, but if i do debootstrap at lenny, then there is none. |
| 00:12.21 | huslu | if you upgrade from etch to lenny, yes MAKEDEV continues to be there. |
| 00:12.23 | BaD-CrC | quick question... does debian lenny require more than the first disk to install, or do i have to get all 26 cds? |
| 00:13.54 | huslu | just 1st one is ok |
| 00:14.28 | huslu | but i saw on the wiki that lenny cd's were broken, but don't quote me on that. |
| 00:14.29 | abrotman | !d-i BaD-CrC |
| 00:14.29 | dpkg | BaD-CrC, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the 4.0r0 installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 00:14.32 | BaD-CrC | then i can set the repos in sources.list for the other stuffs, right? |
| 00:14.44 | abrotman | huslu: AFAIK .. it's created by udev |
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| 00:15.01 | speedy | what is the recommended hardware specs for a linux server that routes and filters 10 to 50 mbit/s ? |
| 00:15.07 | BaD-CrC | yesterday's lenny d-i was broken. it was fixed today. |
| 00:15.14 | huslu | abrotman: thanks, but debootstrap does not put it there, and rootstrap expects it to be there. |
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| 00:15.46 | abrotman | speedy: 486 |
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| 00:16.08 | speedy | abrotman are you serious? |
| 00:16.28 | abrotman | speedy: try it :) |
| 00:16.48 | abrotman | speedy: i doubt you have anything that slow .. but pretty much anything you have should work |
| 00:17.55 | huslu | BaD-CrC: where can i get those lenny d-i's (that are not broken) ? |
| 00:17.55 | speedy | abrotman who sells 486 now? :) |
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| 00:18.14 | abrotman | speedy: probably some embedded people |
| 00:18.29 | huslu | 486's are sold by pcengines and such. |
| 00:18.30 | speedy | i want something durable |
| 00:18.50 | abrotman | speedy: don't you have any hardware laying around ? |
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| 00:19.05 | BaD-CrC | huslu: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 00:19.17 | wols | speedy: then use lots of memory and no moving parts |
| 00:19.30 | BaD-CrC | seems to be working fine for my laptop right now. |
| 00:19.31 | huslu | BaD-CrC: many thanks |
| 00:19.33 | speedy | its for my servers in the US and i'm not in the US |
| 00:19.51 | huslu | BaD-CrC: are you saying that those iso's are working or rootstrap is working ? |
| 00:20.31 | BaD-CrC | huslu: i'm saying it's installing as we speak. |
| 00:20.46 | schemelab | I dont understand why Debian/Etch would ship Python 2.4 but fail for Python-2.4-dev to be installed - http://paste.lisp.org/display/49586 |
| 00:24.05 | \amethyst | schemelab: it looks like the problem is with the mercurial package |
| 00:24.12 | schemelab | oh? |
| 00:24.20 | \amethyst | schemelab: as though you had tried to install the lenny/sid version of mercurial |
| 00:24.33 | \amethyst | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.51 | schemelab | oh yes, I have the lenny/sid mercurial .deb evidently |
| 00:25.23 | schemelab | for the moment, I just want to get Python-2.4-dev installed how can I do that? |
| 00:25.38 | schemelab | then I will build mercurial from source and install |
| 00:25.56 | \amethyst | I don't think python 2.4 is available for etch |
| 00:26.07 | schemelab | but /usr/bin/python -v is 2.4.4 |
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| 00:26.09 | abrotman | i thought it was |
| 00:26.14 | vigilant | What are some cool addons to try in debian? |
| 00:26.16 | vigilant | for a server |
| 00:26.18 | abrotman | addons? |
| 00:26.24 | \amethyst | wait, I'm wrong |
| 00:26.25 | schemelab | vigilant: cool and server??? |
| 00:26.26 | Nyle | addons? |
| 00:26.35 | schemelab | vigilant: a server is supposed to be boringly stable. not cool :) |
| 00:26.50 | Nyle | hey, nethack is allowed |
| 00:26.54 | schemelab | i've been wanting locate to run on my server... how do you get that working? |
| 00:27.04 | abrotman | updatedb |
| 00:27.15 | schemelab | @hourly updatedb in cron? |
| 00:27.26 | abrotman | hourly? |
| 00:27.26 | Nyle | whoah |
| 00:27.29 | Nyle | hourly? |
| 00:27.33 | abrotman | it should already be there |
| 00:27.35 | schemelab | well...? |
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| 00:28.00 | schemelab | warning: database `/var/cache/locate/locatedb' is more than 8 days old |
| 00:28.02 | abrotman | /etc/cron.daily/find |
| 00:28.15 | vigilant | lol ok |
| 00:28.17 | wols | schemelab: updatedb runs once per day automatically. is your server turned off at 6-6:30am? |
| 00:28.30 | schemelab | i login as a normal user and then sudo ... so I dont know what root cron has.. perhaps I should su - root and look? |
| 00:28.40 | schemelab | wols - no it is not turned off unless I do so |
| 00:28.42 | wols | rather: is the server ever turned off? |
| 00:28.51 | schemelab | wols, yes, but not for very long |
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| 00:29.03 | wols | then with a normal debian install, updatedb runs every morning |
| 00:29.11 | wols | unless you did something to prevent it |
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| 00:29.24 | d00gster | guys, I'm installing xserver-xorg and getting Setting up xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (0.14.7~git20070706-1) ... |
| 00:29.24 | d00gster | Setting up xserver-xorg-input-all (1:7.3+2) ... |
| 00:29.24 | d00gster | Setting up xserver-xorg (1:7.3+2) ... |
| 00:29.24 | d00gster | FATAL: Module battery not found. |
| 00:29.24 | d00gster | xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; no default X server |
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| 00:29.32 | d00gster | oops |
| 00:29.34 | d00gster | sorry |
| 00:29.46 | abrotman | install xorg |
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| 00:29.54 | NiteFears | hi |
| 00:30.06 | NiteFears | I've written a simple program in Python and would like to package it in a .deb. Can someone point me to a template or tutorial for creating very basic packages? The program doesn't have any n ative dependencies, and I've already identified the Python packages it depends upon. |
| 00:30.14 | wols | !nm |
| 00:30.14 | dpkg | [nm] New Maintainer, the process through which new Debian developers happen. A program to list symbols from object files and libs. Never\No Mind. New Mexico No Molestes (do not disturb) in spanish. at http://nm.debian.org/ |
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| 00:30.53 | _vvd | what can i do when i get a md5sum mismatch for a deb? |
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| 00:31.08 | abrotman | redownloadit |
| 00:31.20 | _vvd | i did, it happened twice |
| 00:31.23 | NiteFears | wols: umm. I really need just very basic guidelines. with minimum RTFM overhead |
| 00:31.29 | abrotman | _vvd: a different mirror |
| 00:31.31 | d00gster | abrotman, you're saying install xorg and then xserver-xorg? |
| 00:31.36 | wols | _vvd: did you delete the old .deb before? |
| 00:31.44 | abrotman | d00gster: aptitude install xorg |
| 00:31.51 | _vvd | wols: it downloaded again, no |
| 00:31.58 | wols | NiteFears: take another python package as example then |
| 00:32.16 | _vvd | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.20 | d00gster | abrotman> just did and got same error |
| 00:32.22 | _vvd | different mirror? ^^) |
| 00:32.27 | NiteFears | wols: can you suggest an example? something small and simple |
| 00:32.29 | wols | _vvd: that's not a .deb and not debian |
| 00:32.30 | abrotman | d00gster: did you compile your own kernel ? |
| 00:32.37 | d00gster | yes |
| 00:32.40 | _vvd | wols: oops |
| 00:32.43 | abrotman | well .. apparently you shouldn't |
| 00:32.43 | _vvd | sorry |
| 00:32.58 | wols | _vvd: not to mention there is a .deb for flash |
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| 00:33.10 | d00gster | abrotman> what could be the problem? |
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| 00:33.27 | abrotman | modprobe: FATAL module "battery" not found |
| 00:33.43 | _vvd | wols: do you mean libflash-swfplayer ? |
| 00:33.51 | wols | no I don't |
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| 00:34.03 | _vvd | wols: :P |
| 00:34.13 | _vvd | wols: how is it called then? :) |
| 00:34.35 | wols | !tell _vvd about search |
| 00:34.44 | stew | NiteFears: look for a python package that build-depends on cdbs |
| 00:35.08 | d00gster | abrotman, appreciate the help but can you a bit more specific about a way to fix this? |
| 00:35.19 | abrotman | d00gster: boot the debian kernel .. install xorg |
| 00:35.42 | d00gster | that's the easy way out |
| 00:36.23 | wols | d00gster: there is a reason #debian discourages people from compiling their own kernels: it fucks their systems up |
| 00:36.24 | _vvd | wols: you meant flashplayer-mozilla! :) |
| 00:36.30 | wols | and it's impossible to debug over irc |
| 00:36.42 | d00gster | ok |
| 00:36.45 | wols | so if you need your own kernel: fine. but you have to deal with the consequences |
| 00:37.33 | NiteFears | stew: is there a dpkg command for this? |
| 00:38.39 | wols | d00gster: "battery" smells like ACPI |
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| 00:39.38 | d00gster | wols, yeah I locted it and I'm building it into the kernel |
| 00:39.45 | stew | NiteFears: grep-dctrl -F Build-Depends cdbs -s Package /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Sources | grep python |
| 00:40.13 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 00:40.56 | _vvd | is there a "debian-way" of choosing x-session manager when not using gdm? |
| 00:41.00 | NiteFears | stew: cool ;) |
| 00:41.37 | _vvd | or just .xinitrc? |
| 00:41.38 | \amethyst | _vvd: do you mean using xdm, or using startx? |
| 00:41.50 | stew | i'm not generally for cdbs, but it does a good job with python modules since they are in general so uniformly packaged |
| 00:41.51 | _vvd | \amethyst: startx |
| 00:42.41 | _vvd | something like "startx -x wmaker" would be nice |
| 00:42.52 | _vvd | or startx -x gnome |
| 00:44.43 | \amethyst | startx /etc/X11/Xsession gnome-session |
| 00:44.50 | NiteFears | stew: thanks, I'll look at it |
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| 00:47.46 | node_6 | I cannot get smbclient to resolve netbios names of xp machines. ( smbclient -L xpMachineName -U Administrator ... connection failed ) do I need the full samba3 package or is there something I can do with what I've already got installed? |
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| 00:48.58 | node_6 | do I need the winbind package too? |
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| 00:51.11 | sam55 | Anybody know how to burn a bunch of flac files to make an audio CD with all the metadata intact? |
| 00:51.47 | sam55 | Preferable from command line. I was using K3b, but after a recent upgrade, it keeps on crashing if I add any flac file in an audio project :( |
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| 00:58.51 | Tramp | sam55: you mean automagically generating cd-text? Does k3b do that for mp3 or ogg?? |
| 00:59.14 | sam55 | tramp: in k3b, there is an option which I have to check to make it do so. |
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| 00:59.43 | sam55 | tramp: in gnomebaker, I haven't been able to find such an option. Does it exist? |
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| 01:00.21 | Tramp | sam55: Up to now I did not know of a way to do this anywhere 8) |
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| 01:01.14 | sam55 | tramp: well, in k3b, as you add the tracks to the audio cd project, their meta data is displayed in the lower window. But when you click burn, you must check the "cd-title" option in that dialog window, then the data gets written to the CD. |
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| 01:02.24 | Tramp | sam55: and then your CD-Player displays track title / artist / etc? |
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| 01:02.41 | sam55 | tramp: yes, it does. |
| 01:02.50 | abrotman | try other burning apps |
| 01:02.53 | sam55 | tramp: it took me quite a while to figure this out! |
| 01:03.08 | cchance | How do i reset the mysql password for root |
| 01:03.21 | abrotman | !tell cchance about forgot mysql root password |
| 01:03.31 | Tramp | sam55: Amazing. Well, I'd suggest to encode to high quality ogg then and use this. I'm sure I would not be able to hear the difference 8) |
| 01:04.37 | sam55 | tramp: I know. But the situation is such that I need to burn flac files only. More importantly, something seriously wrong with k3b after the recent update. I have filed a bugreport, a grave one, but got news from the developers (been days now). |
| 01:04.45 | Tramp | sam55: Although, If you're really audiophile, knowing about the transcoding would probably spoil your listening experience |
| 01:05.29 | dalias | :P |
| 01:05.30 | abrotman | sam55: just try other burning apps |
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| 01:06.06 | sam55 | abrotman: just tried gnomebaker. It burned the audio cd, but no track info :( Gnomebaker is nothing compared to k3b in options. |
| 01:06.22 | abrotman | there's arson and nautilus and eroaster xcdroast |
| 01:06.33 | abrotman | sam55: there's another gnome one .. that i can't remember |
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| 01:07.23 | sam55 | abrotman: I don't expect much from nautilus (it is from gnome ), will try arson. |
| 01:07.39 | abrotman | oh .. graveman |
| 01:07.43 | abrotman | http://gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=103 |
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| 01:09.35 | Tramp | sam55: from shortly reading about this capability of k3b: Mabe delete the Metadata from the flacs and let k3b fetch them from cddb or whatever. Maybe then it is possible... Just a thought though |
| 01:09.49 | ShadowPhoenix | I got portsentry, but now when I nmap my host I see that all the ports are open... is it a false alarm? |
| 01:09.55 | sam55 | tramp: k3b works fine. Gnomebaker doesn't :( |
| 01:10.13 | sparr | is there a ftpd that is easy to use and can ban by ip if a user has too many unsuccessful logins? |
| 01:10.16 | sam55 | tramp: oh, but from recently, k3b crashes for any flac file. |
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| 01:10.50 | abrotman | brasero might do it |
| 01:10.50 | Tramp | sam55: ah, ok. Then the problem for k3b is the flac, not the metadata. |
| 01:11.13 | abrotman | seems like there should be a better way to check than to keep burning CDs :) |
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| 01:11.54 | cchance | Can i reinstall mysql to get rid of the password |
| 01:12.01 | abrotman | eh .. maybe not |
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| 01:12.10 | abrotman | cchance: man aptitude |
| 01:12.17 | sparr | cchance: almost certainly not |
| 01:12.25 | cchance | yikes |
| 01:12.31 | cchance | i dont feel like reformating |
| 01:12.51 | sparr | google "linux reset mysql password" |
| 01:12.54 | ShadowPhoenix | for some reason portsentry does not protect me from nmap -sV myhost :( |
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| 01:13.11 | sparr | you need to start mysql as computer-user-root and give it commands in a startup script to reset mysql-user-root's password |
| 01:13.18 | ShadowPhoenix | What can I do to protect myself? |
| 01:13.18 | abrotman | sparr: wtf .. yes he can |
| 01:13.43 | pitakill | how do i start the iptables on Debian Etch? |
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| 01:14.07 | huslu | iptables command ? |
| 01:14.24 | sparr | abrotman: then something has changed. last time i reinstalled mysql it didnt change any existing priveleges or passwords |
| 01:14.40 | pitakill | huslu, the script isn't in /etc/init.d/ |
| 01:14.41 | abrotman | sparr: nothing changed |
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| 01:15.02 | abrotman | pitakill: /usr/share/iptables/README* |
| 01:15.29 | abrotman | and he's already been told how to reset root's password for mysql |
| 01:15.35 | Kikkoman | I have just installed the Debian base system, and apt-get update doesn't work. it says it cannot resolve. How can I fix this? |
| 01:15.45 | alanhaggai | Hi. Is there any utility that allows to limit the bandwidth shared with the clients? I am on a LAN and I have to regulate the bandwidth assigned to each client. |
| 01:16.00 | Kikkoman | Also, I couldn't configure APT during setup, but I have a direct connection to my router. |
| 01:16.01 | huslu | pitakill: is it a daemon ? |
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| 01:16.19 | abrotman | Kikkoman: have dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 01:16.35 | kgoetz | alanhaggai: iptables+tc? |
| 01:16.44 | abrotman | alanhaggai: on the linux client? |
| 01:17.01 | alanhaggai | abrotman, yes. |
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| 01:17.10 | abrotman | !info trickle etch |
| 01:17.11 | gonzaloaf | hi, why does every time that I want to connect to my computer via VNC I have to give the password to unlock the default gnome keyring? see this picture http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4474/screenshotunlockkeyringtf7.png |
| 01:17.16 | dpkg | trickle: (user-space bandwidth shaper), section net, is optional. Version: 1.07-4 (etch), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 104 kB |
| 01:17.17 | pitakill | huslu, i pretend something like /etc/init.d/iptables start, but the script in /etc/init.d/ not exists |
| 01:17.29 | abrotman | alanhaggai: if you want to control it from a linux router .. you could try wondershaper |
| 01:17.35 | sparr | gonzaloaf: because the vnc password is stored on that keyring? |
| 01:17.37 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Hm? |
| 01:17.53 | alanhaggai | abrotman, I am at the server. So which one will be the best? |
| 01:17.59 | abrotman | Kikkoman: cat /etc/resolv.conf .. anything in there ? |
| 01:18.12 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Yeah, nameserver 74.211.15.210 *.211 |
| 01:18.32 | abrotman | Kikkoman: nslookup www.google.com .. does it work ? |
| 01:18.35 | Kikkoman | abrotman: * = 74.211.15 it's on a different line |
| 01:18.53 | alanhaggai | kgoetz, how do I use that command? |
| 01:18.54 | Kikkoman | abrotman: nslookup: command not found |
| 01:19.14 | abrotman | is the 'host' command there ? |
| 01:19.14 | huslu | pitakill: iptables isn't a daemon, so there is no command in init.d |
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| 01:19.29 | abrotman | huslu: there used to be |
| 01:19.30 | Kikkoman | abrotman: host: command not found |
| 01:19.43 | abrotman | dnsutils needs to be installed for those |
| 01:19.56 | Kikkoman | abrotman: It may help to know that I installed using netinst |
| 01:19.56 | thedonvaughn | pitakill: what most people do is write their iptables script and put it in their sysv init so it comes up at start up and can be started and stopped. but you could do the same thing just by putting it in rc.local |
| 01:20.10 | abrotman | Kikkoman: shouldn't matter really |
| 01:20.33 | pitakill | huslu, thedonvaughn, thanks |
| 01:20.47 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Alright, here goes: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security..... You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 01:21.01 | Kikkoman | When I did apt-get install dnsutils |
| 01:21.02 | diafic | bed |
| 01:21.08 | abrotman | Kikkoman: and you're running apt-get update ? and it times out ? |
| 01:21.22 | Kikkoman | abrotman: I assume that's the case. |
| 01:21.29 | gonzaloaf | sparr, I dont want to do that, because sometimes I am away of my computer so I cannot enter the key in order to unlock the keyring so I'm not able to connect via VNC |
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| 01:21.44 | abrotman | Kikkoman: try it and see |
| 01:21.58 | gonzaloaf | sparr, is there a way to avoid this step? or another solution?ยก |
| 01:22.14 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Yeah, it times out |
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| 01:23.03 | abrotman | Kikkoman: you sure those dns IPs are right ? |
| 01:23.14 | Kikkoman | abrotman: That's what it shows in my router |
| 01:23.28 | abrotman | a little linksys router type thing ? |
| 01:23.39 | Kikkoman | Default Gateway : 74.211.16.1 |
| 01:23.39 | Kikkoman | Primary DNS Server : 74.211.15.210 |
| 01:23.39 | Kikkoman | Secondary DNS Server : 74.211.15.211 |
| 01:23.51 | Kikkoman | The two DNS servers are shown in that file you mentioned |
| 01:23.57 | Kikkoman | And it says search beyondbb.com |
| 01:24.18 | gonzaloaf | can anybody help me to solve my problem of vino-server and the gnome keyring? |
| 01:24.28 | abrotman | Kikkoman: but it's a little linksys thing? |
| 01:24.33 | Kikkoman | abrotman: d-link |
| 01:24.47 | Kikkoman | abrotman: d-link 634M, to be precise |
| 01:24.52 | abrotman | hrm .. okay |
| 01:24.55 | gonzaloaf | is there a way to unlock the gnome keyring just ones forever? |
| 01:25.05 | abrotman | does name resolution work for other machines on your network ? |
| 01:25.09 | Kikkoman | Yes. |
| 01:25.57 | Kikkoman | These two machines are connected to the same router through Ethernet, and this one works, but the other doesn't. |
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| 01:26.34 | Kikkoman | Oh |
| 01:26.43 | schemelab | hey, where is suexec on Debian/Etch? cant find it via apt-cache either |
| 01:26.56 | Kikkoman | abrotman: I noticed in /etc/resolv.conf that on this computer, it only says "nameserver 192.168.0.1" |
| 01:27.12 | abrotman | try that instead |
| 01:27.16 | Kikkoman | Alright |
| 01:27.42 | gonzaloaf | is there a way to remove gnome-keyring without removing half of gnome applications? |
| 01:28.11 | Kikkoman | Sorry for the paste: |
| 01:28.12 | Kikkoman | # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! |
| 01:28.12 | Kikkoman | nameserver 192.168.0.1 |
| 01:28.13 | kgoetz | can someone offer an explaination why i cant host systems in my hosts file? |
| 01:28.15 | Kikkoman | >>>; nevermind |
| 01:28.21 | kgoetz | should i accuse network manager? |
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| 01:30.02 | Kikkoman | abrotman: During setup, I installed the packages of Laptop and Desktop System *Not sure about that one, but definitly Laptop* |
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| 01:30.26 | Kikkoman | Couldn't configure APT *timed out*, so I ended up with just the base system |
| 01:31.05 | cchance | gosh |
| 01:31.19 | cchance | Can mysql tables be edited rawly? |
| 01:31.25 | cchance | How else can change the pass |
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| 01:31.38 | cchance | the way dpkg gave wont work and gets stuck at the mysqld |
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| 01:33.58 | gonzaloaf | is it necessary to have gnome-keyring instalado? |
| 01:34.03 | gonzaloaf | is it necessary to have gnome-keyring installed? |
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| 01:35.35 | cchance | no |
| 01:36.17 | krono | is there any email software in client and client that will allow me to share contacts and calendars in outlook,thunderbird and evolution |
| 01:36.33 | Arafangion | krono: The palm pda! ;) |
| 01:37.06 | krono | na |
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| 01:37.08 | Arafangion | krono: Not sure about contacts, but calendars should work with ical format import and export things... outlook, just forget it.. |
| 01:37.23 | krono | lol |
| 01:37.35 | krono | i know scalix will work |
| 01:37.40 | krono | but xandros bought it out |
| 01:38.24 | cchance | Any one know of anyway other than dpkg's way to change the mysql pass |
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| 01:40.37 | kgoetz | cchance: ask #mysql |
| 01:40.49 | gonzaloaf | cchance, when I try to remove it ask me to remove more than 100 pkgs else, is there a way to remove just gnome-keyring? |
| 01:40.49 | abrotman | or try mysql.com |
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| 01:42.03 | coir | Hmm how can I get AAC playback functional in Rhythmbox? |
| 01:42.10 | cchance | if you have it installed leave it it wont hurt anything |
| 01:42.30 | gonzaloaf | cchance, yes is annoying |
| 01:42.41 | abrotman | cchance: fix your own problems |
| 01:42.50 | gonzaloaf | cchance, every time I want to access via vnc it ask me to unlock the keyring |
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| 01:45.14 | Kikkoman | abrotman: ping 192.168.0.1 |
| 01:45.22 | Kikkoman | abrotman: connect: Network is unreachable |
| 01:45.31 | abrotman | that's not good |
| 01:45.38 | Kikkoman | No kidding D: |
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| 01:48.21 | Tramp | gonzaloaf: Have you checked the manpage of your vnc-client if it allows another way to specify the password? |
| 01:48.44 | gonzaloaf | Tramp, vino-server |
| 01:49.04 | xtor | Can anyone load these videos? And if so which browser are you using----> http://www.vtc.com/products/Unix-Shell-Scripting-Advanced-tutorials.htm |
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| 01:49.48 | ShadowPhoenix | Someome please help me!!! I just installed portsentry and iptables, and now I locked myself out! |
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| 01:50.03 | ShadowPhoenix | Now i can't even SSH into it! |
| 01:50.35 | kgoetz | ShadowPhoenix: grab yourself a monitor+ keyboard.... |
| 01:50.38 | ShadowPhoenix | It tells me that "server unexpectedly closed network connection" |
| 01:50.56 | Tramp | gonzaloaf:Well, I don't know the vncclient of vino-server, you have to check for yourself. With vncviewer you can specify it on the cmdline (If this is what you want to do) |
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| 01:51.05 | ShadowPhoenix | kgoetz: is there any other way to fix it? |
| 01:51.23 | abrotman | ShadowPhoenix: how else would you get in to fix it? |
| 01:51.23 | kgoetz | ShadowPhoenix: probably not |
| 01:52.13 | ShadowPhoenix | I got port 80 open... |
| 01:52.13 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Temporary failure resolving 'mirrors.kernel.org' When I do apt-get update |
| 01:52.24 | ShadowPhoenix | And I have ident running! :) |
| 01:52.29 | abrotman | your name resolution is not working |
| 01:52.33 | ShadowPhoenix | can I connect through that? |
| 01:52.59 | Kikkoman | abrotman: So...how can I fix it x.x; |
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| 01:53.19 | ShadowPhoenix | and my nmap reports that I still have stuff running on it |
| 01:53.28 | abrotman | Kikkoman: is your machine dhcp or static ? |
| 01:53.40 | Max_- | I'm trying to install the flash player, because Konqueror can't play videos on youtube... So I followed the link provided by youtube(or konqueror), downloaded the tar.gz, uncompressed it... now there is a script asking for "Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey, or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):" I tried many things, but I don't know what to enter, really. !? |
| 01:53.48 | dalias | shadowphoenix, unless you have a vuln, no.. |
| 01:53.54 | dalias | why did you configure it to lock you out? :P |
| 01:54.01 | ShadowPhoenix | I... didn't! |
| 01:54.10 | gonzaloaf | is there a way to unlock the gnome keyring just ones forever? or disable it? |
| 01:54.14 | Kikkoman | abrotman: I think it's dhcp |
| 01:54.18 | ShadowPhoenix | I guess I scanned it too many times, so now it thinks I am the intruder :( |
| 01:54.26 | abrotman | Kikkoman: double check |
| 01:54.31 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: so if I connect a keyboard and a mouse, how do I fix it? |
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| 01:54.39 | dalias | shadowphoenix, note that portsentry is utter crap |
| 01:54.41 | xtor | Max which distro |
| 01:54.58 | Kikkoman | abrotman: I'm not sure how to do so :\ |
| 01:54.59 | Max_- | Debian :) |
| 01:55.00 | dalias | anyone can DoS your site by doing a fake portscan with a particular host as the spoofed source |
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| 01:55.15 | dalias | and then prevent the real owner of that host from connecting to your site |
| 01:55.31 | ShadowPhoenix | :O |
| 01:55.31 | abrotman | Kikkoman: look in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:55.42 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: so... what can I do about it? |
| 01:55.47 | dalias | it's a classic vuln in 'security' software written by idiots |
| 01:55.53 | nvz | hmm my mouse has been shutting off occationally I'm not sure if its the mouse, probably the cord, or if its the computer |
| 01:56.02 | dalias | just like windows networks configured to lock you out after 5 failed password attempts :) |
| 01:56.05 | nvz | I don't see any messages about it from the kernel so IDK |
| 01:56.08 | dalias | shadowphoenix, you need to login at the console |
| 01:56.17 | dalias | and preferably apt-get purge portsentry |
| 01:56.25 | ShadowPhoenix | purge? or remove? |
| 01:56.27 | abrotman | that's not a valid command |
| 01:56.31 | dalias | ah yeah |
| 01:56.32 | dalias | remove |
| 01:56.37 | dalias | --purge is for dpkg |
| 01:56.38 | Kikkoman | abrotman: # = new line..... auto lo # iface lo inet loopback # allow-hotplug eth1 # iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 01:56.42 | ShadowPhoenix | What can I use instead of portsentry? |
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| 01:56.44 | abrotman | you can use --purge with apt-get |
| 01:56.48 | ShadowPhoenix | I am feeling a bit insecure right now |
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| 01:56.57 | ShadowPhoenix | I get about 60 hits each day on my smoothwall |
| 01:56.58 | abrotman | Kikkoman: seems to be dhcp ... |
| 01:57.02 | dalias | shadowphoenix, use for what purpose? |
| 01:57.07 | ShadowPhoenix | and most of them attempt to exploit my Apache |
| 01:57.17 | ShadowPhoenix | To protect my virgin debian install of course! :D |
| 01:57.20 | dalias | yeah just ignore them |
| 01:57.22 | abrotman | they're likely looking to exploit IIS |
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| 01:57.32 | nvz | ShadowPhoenix: we're not that kind of support group.. if you have problems with your feelings and virginity, maybe you need a hooker |
| 01:57.36 | dalias | if apache has a vuln, a firewall will not protect you from it |
| 01:57.51 | dalias | since your whole purpose is to run a webserver and allow clients to connect, you can't block them |
| 01:58.03 | dalias | you wouldn't be blocking the apache port anyway |
| 01:58.08 | dalias | thus it's useless |
| 01:58.11 | ShadowPhoenix | :/ |
| 01:58.15 | abrotman | !! |
| 01:58.15 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
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| 01:58.29 | Kikkoman | abrotman: So..how would I fix name resolution (seeing as it's dhcp) |
| 01:58.34 | ShadowPhoenix | How can I get my apache to block everyone who tries to like... "REQUEST /c/windows/cmd.exe"? |
| 01:58.42 | ShadowPhoenix | Because I know those are the scripty kiddies |
| 01:58.53 | dalias | shadowphoenix, again, that would be exploitable for DoS |
| 01:58.55 | abrotman | and they're not hurting you |
| 01:59.00 | dalias | and right |
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| 01:59.05 | dalias | as abrotman said they do no harm to you |
| 01:59.08 | dalias | just ignore them |
| 01:59.18 | vigilant | how can i install webmin on debian? |
| 01:59.18 | dalias | thats what everyone else does |
| 01:59.29 | ShadowPhoenix | What else can I do to protect myself? |
| 01:59.31 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 01:59.31 | dpkg | methinks webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html, or don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality |
| 01:59.34 | dalias | except the IIS admins who actually have to deal with getting owned |
| 01:59.39 | dalias | shadowphoenix, protect yourself from what? |
| 01:59.42 | dalias | that's like asking |
| 01:59.48 | ShadowPhoenix | Is there even an antivirus for linux? |
| 01:59.51 | dalias | "what can i do to protect myself from the boogie-man?" |
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| 02:00.04 | abrotman | ShadowPhoenix: yes there is |
| 02:00.05 | dalias | no because antivirus is a fundamentally bogus concept |
| 02:00.07 | amphi | install vrms! |
| 02:00.11 | ShadowPhoenix | lol @ dalias |
| 02:00.14 | abrotman | !info clamav etch |
| 02:00.15 | coir | Anyone, please? |
| 02:00.16 | dpkg | clamav: (antivirus scanner for Unix), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.90.1-3etch2 (etch), Packaged size: 834 kB, Installed size: 1256 kB |
| 02:00.20 | coir | Package for AAC decoding? |
| 02:00.27 | dalias | viruses come from installing software from dubious sources |
| 02:00.31 | abrotman | isn't AAC the apple crap ? |
| 02:00.37 | ShadowPhoenix | Amazing! I gotta install clamav |
| 02:00.41 | coir | abrotman: No. |
| 02:00.41 | plb | hrm weechat is an interesting little irc client |
| 02:00.42 | ShadowPhoenix | ....once I get access to my machine |
| 02:00.47 | coir | Apple uses it. |
| 02:00.48 | dalias | shadowphoenix, clamav is an email-virus scanner for mail servers |
| 02:00.49 | coir | But so do others. |
| 02:00.58 | dalias | shadowphoenix, to keep your users from getting viruses in their email |
| 02:01.00 | abrotman | coir: right .. it's the ITMS bullshit right ? |
| 02:01.04 | kgoetz | abrotman: they also come from accepting mail from windows boxes |
| 02:01.05 | dalias | shadowphoenix, it has nothing to do with protecting your server |
| 02:01.11 | ShadowPhoenix | Oh yeah! I also installed exim4. Can I exploit that to get in my server? |
| 02:01.12 | abrotman | kgoetz: wrong person |
| 02:01.17 | dalias | shadowphoenix, no of course not |
| 02:01.21 | vigilant | What should i use instead of webmin on debian? |
| 02:01.21 | ShadowPhoenix | :( |
| 02:01.24 | kgoetz | abrotman: sorry your correct |
| 02:01.30 | abrotman | you're |
| 02:01.32 | abrotman | :) |
| 02:01.34 | dalias | debian would not be shipping it if there were [known] exploits; they'd have patched it |
| 02:01.36 | abrotman | vigilant: vi |
| 02:01.41 | vigilant | abrotman: vi? |
| 02:01.43 | vigilant | lol |
| 02:01.44 | abrotman | dalias: /msg dpkg tracker of doom |
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| 02:01.47 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: how else can I protect myself from any mad hackers and scriptiy kidders? |
| 02:02.00 | ShadowPhoenix | !msg dpkg doom |
| 02:02.00 | dalias | shadowphoenix, the way to protect yourself is by not running daemons you don't need |
| 02:02.24 | ShadowPhoenix | " Doom III is going to be coming out! " <----- ROFL |
| 02:02.29 | xtor | err also running iptables blocking all INBOUND |
| 02:02.30 | ShadowPhoenix | This bot is amazing |
| 02:02.37 | nvz | coir: I haven't found any usable libs for other players that decodes them, but I found a player that has a library for them |
| 02:02.42 | nvz | !info audacious stable |
| 02:02.44 | dpkg | audacious: (Small and fast audio player which supports lots of formats), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-4 (etch), Packaged size: 736 kB, Installed size: 2352 kB |
| 02:02.45 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: what else can I do? |
| 02:02.45 | coir | abrotman: iTMS uses a DRM-ed version - but saying it's Apple crap is like calling H.264 "Apple crap" because Apple uses it. |
| 02:02.45 | dalias | shadowphoenix, if all you have running is apache and sshd, you're almost as close as people can practically get to "absolute security" |
| 02:03.05 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: see, I changed my SSH port |
| 02:03.13 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: this way people would have to portscan to find it |
| 02:03.13 | xtor | lol apache is "absolute security"? LOL |
| 02:03.22 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: this way, any portscan = PC locked |
| 02:03.24 | dalias | shadowphoenix, the only way to be more secure would be to audit these programs yourself, hire someone to do so for you, or use a simpler program |
| 02:03.28 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: but it locked me :( |
| 02:03.31 | coir | nvz: Well, I know there is one on Etch that Rhythmbox can use, but I can't remember which. |
| 02:03.39 | dalias | shadowphoenix, well no, there is another way |
| 02:03.44 | dalias | shadowphoenix, you could turn the computer off |
| 02:03.48 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Would it be easier just to reinstall? |
| 02:03.53 | dalias | :P |
| 02:03.59 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: how soon will the portsentry let me back in? |
| 02:03.59 | abrotman | coir: i know of ways to get the music out of them .. but i don't know something reencode them .. maybe mencoder? |
| 02:04.09 | nvz | coir: I wouldn't know, both rhythmbox and the gstreamer framework are poo |
| 02:04.19 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Maybe you could guide me step-by-step >.>; |
| 02:04.22 | dalias | shadowphoenix, i dunno if it ever will. depends on the default config |
| 02:04.29 | dalias | shadowphoenix, you should login at the console |
| 02:04.33 | abrotman | Kikkoman: it should have worked .. that's the thing |
| 02:05.10 | dalias | xtor, apache does not run with privileges anyway. i agree it's not the paramount of security, but it's also not likely to have vulns in a basic config |
| 02:05.14 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Yeah, but it didn't. Would it be easier just to do a reinstallation? I might have done something wrong in the setup. |
| 02:05.23 | abrotman | i doubt you did |
| 02:05.26 | abrotman | but you can try it |
| 02:05.28 | dalias | xtor, if one wants to be more paranoid they should use thttpd, but it has much fewer features |
| 02:05.36 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: then I guess I would login tommorow.... |
| 02:05.46 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Alright, I'll ask if I have any doubts about each thing |
| 02:05.55 | dalias | shadowphoenix, anyway, keep in mind how security works |
| 02:05.56 | ShadowPhoenix | The server is tucked FAR-FAR-FAR-far away |
| 02:06.07 | xtor | dalias apache runs PHP with quite a few privvies oftentimes..and I heard there was always some sorta bug with write access to /var/log/apache/ |
| 02:06.13 | dalias | shadowphoenix, the only way someone obtains control of your machine is by tricking it or its operator into doing something stupid |
| 02:06.43 | dalias | shadowphoenix, this is true regardless of what your OS is |
| 02:07.04 | xtor | Theres always tonsssssssssssssssssss of exploits exposed where just visiting a malicious http url can get your box rooted--both for windows and linux |
| 02:07.11 | kgoetz | dalias: in that case it depends on yoru definition of 'stupid' |
| 02:07.12 | dalias | shadowphoenix, windows security products have always been traditionally about looking for known threats and pretending unknown ones don't exist. that's what a virus scanner is. |
| 02:07.35 | ShadowPhoenix | :O |
| 02:07.39 | ShadowPhoenix | oMg |
| 02:07.45 | dalias | xtor, visiting a url can get your box rooted? um, no, because your browser does not run as root... |
| 02:07.52 | abrotman | dalias: some of them have heuristic scanning |
| 02:07.54 | ShadowPhoenix | That means if I write a simple keylogger, then antivirus would NOT pick ip up?????? |
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| 02:08.02 | abrotman | dalias: and that's wrong |
| 02:08.15 | ShadowPhoenix | *it |
| 02:08.20 | abrotman | your box could get rooted by a URL ... browser exploit + local root exploit .. |
| 02:08.40 | dalias | local root exploit? haha |
| 02:08.47 | abrotman | they don't happen ? |
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| 02:09.22 | dalias | sadly linux has some now and then (the kernel), but otherwise not unless you stupidly install suid-root stuff |
| 02:09.28 | ShadowPhoenix | OMG |
| 02:09.38 | ShadowPhoenix | But my Debian kernel source is OUTDATED!!! |
| 02:09.41 | abrotman | dalias: that's bull .. but you live in another universe as you've proven before |
| 02:09.45 | ShadowPhoenix | What if someone hacks it while I am asleep? |
| 02:09.54 | kgoetz | ShadowPhoenix: lol. your rooted |
| 02:10.00 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: should I shut it down for now? |
| 02:10.04 | abrotman | kgoetz: you're |
| 02:10.04 | dalias | shadowphoenix, we're talking about _local_ vulns |
| 02:10.08 | xtor | dalias puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeez there have been sploits posted in the past where visiting a bad url can be the first step to getting rooted....step 1 they chown your /home/xtor/* and step too they hack root using a second sploit. |
| 02:10.09 | dalias | shadowphoenix, how will you shut it down? |
| 02:10.15 | Kikkoman | abrotman: I have two network interface choices, one is FireWire (IEEE 1394) Ethernet device, and the other is eth1: Realtek Smiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8108E PCI Express Fast E |
| 02:10.23 | xtor | abrotman beat me to it |
| 02:10.30 | abrotman | Kikkoman: you want the eth1 |
| 02:10.34 | Kikkoman | abrotman: believe that the latter is the wireless card |
| 02:10.39 | dalias | xtor, non-root cannot chown. you're not making yourself look smart... |
| 02:10.44 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: I will shut down the tripper for the house electricity and turn it on in 10 seconds :) |
| 02:10.44 | abrotman | Fast Ethernet |
| 02:10.50 | Kikkoman | Choose that? |
| 02:10.55 | dalias | shadowphoenix, wtf |
| 02:11.02 | abrotman | dalias: neither are you |
| 02:11.08 | dalias | shadowphoenix, if you can do that why can't you login locally? |
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| 02:11.10 | xtor | dalias non root can chown if they have a secondary sploit..and non root can always plant a backdoor..thats STEP 1 |
| 02:11.17 | dalias | shadowphoenix, did you lock your keys inside your house or something? :P |
| 02:11.17 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Should I choose that one? :P |
| 02:11.23 | abrotman | Kikkoman: yes .. eth1 |
| 02:11.25 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: my current kernel is like 2.6.18!!!!!!! |
| 02:11.30 | ShadowPhoenix | The new one is 2.6.23!!! |
| 02:11.33 | dalias | shadowphoenix, 2.6.18 is fine afaik |
| 02:11.36 | abrotman | ShadowPhoenix: that's the one in etch |
| 02:11.41 | kgoetz | ShadowPhoenix: so? |
| 02:11.46 | dalias | if it's in etch it's certainly fine |
| 02:11.52 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: it is in the basement beyond miles of stuff |
| 02:11.54 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Network autoconfiguration failed |
| 02:11.54 | ShadowPhoenix | it is? |
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| 02:12.00 | abrotman | Kikkoman: your dhcp server hates you |
| 02:12.07 | abrotman | or you need firmware for your NIC |
| 02:12.09 | ShadowPhoenix | But... it is 0.0.5 versions BEHIND! |
| 02:12.17 | abrotman | ShadowPhoenix: just drop it ... |
| 02:12.19 | dalias | shadowphoenix, that's irrelevant |
| 02:12.23 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Uh....what |
| 02:12.25 | kgoetz | ShadowPhoenix: are you trolling? |
| 02:12.26 | dalias | shadowphoenix, stop acting like a hysterical idiot |
| 02:12.32 | dalias | kgoetz, probably |
| 02:12.40 | ShadowPhoenix | I got my Windows box killed once :/ |
| 02:12.41 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Can I configure it manually? I've the info written down |
| 02:12.49 | ShadowPhoenix | So I started my movement toward more security |
| 02:12.55 | abrotman | Kikkoman: you can try .. it should ask you to do that if it fails |
| 02:13.05 | dalias | shadowphoenix, well if you want security the first step is _understanding_ security |
| 02:13.15 | dalias | privilege models and levels, how an attack takes place, etc. |
| 02:13.26 | dalias | if you just scream "OMG GIMME ANTIVIRUS" that will not help you |
| 02:13.41 | xtor | OMG GIVE ME ROOTKIT DETECTOR |
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| 02:13.46 | ShadowPhoenix | okay |
| 02:14.01 | dalias | but in the meantime nobody is going to root you |
| 02:14.07 | Kikkoman | abrotman: It's asking for a domain name...What should I put? |
| 02:14.09 | hatter | i installed a system using the d-i from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ which uses kernel-2.6.23 for sata support, how am i suppsed to get the headers ? |
| 02:14.14 | ShadowPhoenix | not even if I didn't update my system? |
| 02:14.18 | abrotman | Kikkoman: you can put in whatever you want .. or leave it blank |
| 02:14.26 | Kikkoman | Blank it is |
| 02:14.38 | dalias | shadowphoenix, not unless it's _extremely_ old, like older than etch... |
| 02:14.55 | dalias | shadowphoenix, and.. |
| 02:15.00 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Parition, etc. |
| 02:15.06 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Partition* |
| 02:15.10 | abrotman | hatter: i think you'd get them from packages.debian.org .. in the unstable/sid area |
| 02:15.15 | abrotman | Kikkoman: ? |
| 02:15.20 | dalias | shadowphoenix, you definitely _should_ put security.debian.org in your apt sources file and update often from it |
| 02:15.23 | abrotman | partition it however you want |
| 02:15.30 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Formatting and partitioning, I'm waiting for it to finish |
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| 02:15.35 | hatter | abrotman, and they will be fine with etch do you think ? |
| 02:15.44 | dalias | shadowphoenix, but most security updates are unrelated to remote root attacks |
| 02:15.45 | coir | gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad did the trick ^_^ |
| 02:15.46 | abrotman | hatter: dunno |
| 02:15.47 | Kikkoman | Just did the automatic partitioning the empty space |
| 02:15.48 | abrotman | Kikkoman: oh ok |
| 02:15.55 | xtor | is it possible to migrate gaim settings, including cached password, from one box to another? I copied /home/xtor/.gaim/* to my new install but it did not take... |
| 02:15.58 | ShadowPhoenix | is security.debian.org originaly tin sources?? |
| 02:16.03 | abrotman | hatter: i think he just did an etch d-i with the sid kernel |
| 02:16.23 | hatter | abrotman, thx, new hardware still a pain for debian... |
| 02:16.36 | hatter | abrotman, ah, he may have |
| 02:16.50 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Installing the base system (After setting up users) |
| 02:17.07 | abrotman | Kikkoman: i'm worried that your system couldn't dhcp ... |
| 02:17.30 | dalias | shadowphoenix, i think so, don't remember tho |
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| 02:17.52 | dalias | it's rare that i install new debian systems, and i usually use unstable which doesn't have security updates per se |
| 02:18.04 | dalias | (but instead gets its own frequent updates anyway, usually making it okay) |
| 02:18.07 | abrotman | when you do an etch install .. it has the security line |
| 02:18.15 | dalias | abrotman, okay |
| 02:18.19 | dalias | shadowphoenix, listen to abrotman |
| 02:18.20 | abrotman | i'm 99% sure anyways |
| 02:18.31 | Kikkoman | abrotman: This is a new HP laptop, *the installee*, Just got it from costco today |
| 02:18.49 | abrotman | Kikkoman: you might also need the kmuto installer that hatter is using |
| 02:18.57 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Ok, asking for a network mirror |
| 02:18.58 | abrotman | i don't know if your NIC is supported in 2.6.18 or not |
| 02:19.01 | abrotman | Kikkoman: so pick one |
| 02:19.06 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Which one? D: |
| 02:19.08 | abrotman | pick one near you |
| 02:19.19 | Kikkoman | Which one is near me though... |
| 02:19.27 | abrotman | Kikkoman: where are you ? |
| 02:19.33 | Kikkoman | Utah |
| 02:19.36 | Kikkoman | Southern Utah |
| 02:20.00 | abrotman | they have internet in utah ?! |
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| 02:20.21 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Surprising, isn't it |
| 02:20.21 | coir | It's called Brighamyoungernet |
| 02:20.24 | coir | But they have it. |
| 02:20.31 | Kikkoman | Mirrors.kernel.org good? |
| 02:20.48 | abrotman | i use .edu mirrors usually |
| 02:21.37 | Kikkoman | usc.edu it is |
| 02:21.54 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Skipping proxy step |
| 02:21.55 | Ryan52 | I had one of my computers set up as a server ands one setup as a router. So today I installed shorewall, bind9, and dhcp3-server on my server, copied the configuration files from my router, and got rid of my router. Now all of my linux computers can connect, but when my windows computer tries to connect to the dhcp server, it doesn't work. So I open up wireshark on one of my other computers and its showing that the windows compu |
| 02:21.56 | Ryan52 | ter is sending "DHCP Discover", then "DHCP Request" to the broadcast address. Then my router sends "DHCP Nak" to the broadcast address. What could the problem be? It worked when the dhcp server was on my other machine. |
| 02:22.07 | Kikkoman | abrotman:Scanning the mirror |
| 02:22.12 | abrotman | is it working ? |
| 02:22.23 | Kikkoman | Sitting there at 40% |
| 02:22.50 | dalias | abrotman, it would save them a lot of bw cost, right? |
| 02:22.55 | abrotman | there's a debug console |
| 02:23.08 | abrotman | dalias: some of them .. dunno about comcast or how they'd do it .. they seem to have more than one classA |
| 02:23.09 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Still 40%... |
| 02:23.18 | ShadowPhoenix | OK, I am in |
| 02:23.42 | abrotman | dalias: but yeah .. i'd think it would save them a lot of dough |
| 02:23.43 | ShadowPhoenix | DAMN it still blocks me from here |
| 02:23.43 | dalias | ryan52, Nak = negative acknowledgement, so your server is rejecting them i suppose |
| 02:23.49 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Bad archive mirror |
| 02:23.51 | hatter | can i create kernel headers from the currently running kernel ? |
| 02:23.55 | abrotman | Kikkoman: try another |
| 02:23.57 | abrotman | hatter: don't think so |
| 02:24.02 | dalias | abrotman, in eastern europe, isps run warez ftp servers for their customers |
| 02:24.07 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 02:24.11 | Ryan52 | okay, so any idea why or how to make it not reject it? |
| 02:24.13 | dalias | abrotman, to cut the bandwidth costs of p2p |
| 02:24.36 | abrotman | yeah .. i get the idea |
| 02:24.45 | Kikkoman | cudenver.edu should be close :P |
| 02:24.46 | dalias | mp3z, moviez, anime, appz, etc |
| 02:24.49 | dalias | :P |
| 02:25.07 | Kikkoman | Because adding a z to the end of something makes it illegal. |
| 02:25.17 | Kikkoman | :P |
| 02:25.19 | abrotman | i thought there was a unm.edu mirror .. but i guess not |
| 02:25.24 | dalias | kikkoman, :) |
| 02:25.33 | dalias | omg i have gnuz!! |
| 02:26.14 | abrotman | and butterz ? |
| 02:26.33 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Bad mirror |
| 02:26.42 | Kikkoman | abrotman: I don't think that it's the mirror |
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| 02:27.18 | abrotman | Kikkoman: i think your nic isn't supported |
| 02:27.25 | Kikkoman | nic...? |
| 02:27.36 | ShadowPhoenix | grrr |
| 02:27.43 | Kikkoman | Oh |
| 02:27.43 | ShadowPhoenix | I killed portsentry, but it still blocks me :/ |
| 02:27.51 | Kikkoman | Well... |
| 02:28.09 | ShadowPhoenix | What did I break already :/? |
| 02:28.15 | abrotman | !kmuto |
| 02:28.16 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 02:28.23 | abrotman | Kikkoman: maybe try one of those if you've got a CDRW to spare |
| 02:28.26 | ShadowPhoenix | Blah, in gentoo I found out that "emerge --unmerge gcc" is a bad idea |
| 02:28.39 | ShadowPhoenix | now, I managed to lock myself out completely from ssh |
| 02:28.43 | Kikkoman | abrotman: D: |
| 02:28.44 | dalias | lol |
| 02:28.52 | dalias | shadowphoenix, sounds like you have a history of doing foolish things :) |
| 02:28.55 | abrotman | is that a smile or frown ? |
| 02:29.02 | ShadowPhoenix | what next? blah |
| 02:29.06 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: I am just curious |
| 02:29.23 | ShadowPhoenix | Gcc was acting up, so I decided to kill it and download it over |
| 02:29.29 | dalias | :P |
| 02:29.42 | dalias | what part of "gentoo is a source-based distro" did you miss? :) |
| 02:29.45 | ShadowPhoenix | But it turns up I need a gcc to compile anything in gentoo |
| 02:29.51 | dalias | yeah... |
| 02:30.01 | abrotman | odd how that works |
| 02:30.03 | ShadowPhoenix | Well, I broke python and I killed emerge but it was fine before that |
| 02:30.37 | ShadowPhoenix | Maybe I should try out something safer that is easier to fix |
| 02:31.06 | Kikkoman | abrotman: What CD should I download? |
| 02:31.26 | abrotman | the 1013 i'd guess |
| 02:31.33 | abrotman | for i386 etch |
| 02:31.37 | abrotman | unless you know it's amd64 |
| 02:31.38 | Kikkoman | debian-40r1-i386-CD-1.iso? |
| 02:31.48 | abrotman | sure |
| 02:31.51 | Kikkoman | Alright |
| 02:31.57 | abrotman | wait .. no |
| 02:32.00 | abrotman | you already have that |
| 02:32.04 | Max_- | What's wrong between flash and Konqueror in Debian!? :S |
| 02:32.06 | stew | ShadowPhoenix: you broke emerge? i think you are in the wrong channel |
| 02:32.06 | abrotman | http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/2.6.23/etch-custom-1013.iso |
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| 02:32.18 | ShadowPhoenix | stew: I uninstalled gentoo and moved to debian |
| 02:32.20 | abrotman | Kikkoman: the url i just pasted |
| 02:32.26 | abrotman | !tell triplc about root |
| 02:33.04 | Kikkoman | abrotman: 8 minutes then |
| 02:33.18 | abrotman | Kikkoman: i wish i knew more about your NIC |
| 02:33.43 | stew | ShadowPhoenix: portsentry blocks you using iptables, you need to delete the iptables rule that is blocking you |
| 02:34.00 | ShadowPhoenix | iptables -L reveals nothing |
| 02:34.14 | stew | ShadowPhoenix: check /etc/hosts.deny |
| 02:34.34 | stew | ShadowPhoenix: or look for a null route |
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| 02:34.51 | Kikkoman | Whoops |
| 02:34.53 | Kikkoman | Wine exited |
| 02:34.58 | abrotman | wine ? |
| 02:35.06 | Kikkoman | ..mIRC using wine |
| 02:35.10 | Kikkoman | That's what I'm using, anyway |
| 02:35.13 | abrotman | oh jesus .. use xchat or irssi |
| 02:35.16 | Kikkoman | >.>; |
| 02:35.27 | Kikkoman | I can't figure out how to navigate irssi |
| 02:35.45 | abrotman | it has documentation :) |
| 02:35.57 | stew | Kikkoman: ctrl-n , ctrl-p for next, previous window |
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| 02:37.23 | Kikkoman | 50% on that ISO (link you pasted |
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| 02:38.47 | Kikkoman | 60% |
| 02:39.20 | ShadowPhoenix | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 02:39.31 | ShadowPhoenix | My sweet system let me in :) |
| 02:39.35 | dalias | lol |
| 02:39.40 | dalias | now remove portsentry... |
| 02:39.44 | Chascon | hi |
| 02:40.02 | dalias | or should i reinstall nmap and try to remember how to get it to fake a portscan from shadowphoenix's ip? :) |
| 02:40.13 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: but... wouldn't it better to lock me out then for a person to get out |
| 02:40.14 | ShadowPhoenix | OMG |
| 02:40.20 | ShadowPhoenix | I just realized |
| 02:40.24 | ShadowPhoenix | It is all in wain |
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| 02:40.30 | ShadowPhoenix | ALL IN VAIN |
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| 02:40.37 | ShadowPhoenix | My server is behind a smoothwall |
| 02:40.47 | ShadowPhoenix | which means a portscan would be on the smoothwall, NOT the server!!! |
| 02:40.53 | dalias | what difference does that make? |
| 02:40.56 | Kikkoman | abrotman: 70% |
| 02:41.00 | dalias | ah |
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| 02:41.06 | dalias | well it makes portsentry even more dumb |
| 02:41.13 | dalias | but it doesn't make you more secure |
| 02:41.17 | dalias | they can still get to your apache |
| 02:42.02 | dalias | and there's nothing you can do about that except (1) keep things up-to-date, (2) not run apache, (3) run something you trust more than apache, or (4) turn the whole thing off |
| 02:42.03 | Kikkoman | abrotman: 80% |
| 02:42.12 | abrotman | hopefully it just works |
| 02:42.27 | Kikkoman | What program should I use to burn it? |
| 02:42.41 | Chascon | say does Debian's IceWeasel have the same security enhancements that Gnuzilla's IceMonkey does? |
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| 02:43.40 | Kikkoman | Chascon: I believe that Iceweasel is the same version as Firefox, but don't take my word for it |
| 02:43.51 | Kikkoman | As such, it should have the same security that Firefox does. |
| 02:43.54 | Chascon | nope, there are two versions |
| 02:44.10 | Chascon | it's in the fine print here http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/11/06/gnewsense |
| 02:44.32 | Kikkoman | abrotman: What program should I burn the ISO with? |
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| 02:44.44 | ShadowPhoenix | who hacked me now? |
| 02:44.45 | ShadowPhoenix | :p |
| 02:45.11 | dalias | shadowphoenix, no one.. |
| 02:45.12 | ShadowPhoenix | Can someone please scan my IP to see if I get any unsecure ports open? |
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| 02:45.26 | Chascon | I just don't know if enhancements are sync'd |
| 02:45.28 | abrotman | Kikkoman: any program that burns ISOs |
| 02:45.28 | ShadowPhoenix | dalias: I am sorry, it was a joke. My batter just ran out :/ |
| 02:45.30 | tengulre | I download a netinstall iso, can I update packages with cd-rom stuff? |
| 02:45.36 | abrotman | Chascon: they are the same |
| 02:45.49 | Chascon | surity enhancements are listed here http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ |
| 02:46.02 | Kikkoman | abrotman: What programs burn ISO's though? D: I'm using xfce |
| 02:46.15 | abrotman | gnomebaker is one |
| 02:46.30 | abrotman | Chascon: different project .. unrelated |
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| 02:47.07 | Chascon | Well according to http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/11/06/gnewsense, "Debian is pulling from cvs.mozilla.org (MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH, the same branch that Firefox 2.0 is based on) .... The FSF actually maintains their own source code repository, which they forked a while ago from MOZILLA_1_8_0_BRANCH (the same branch that Firefox 1.5 was based on)." |
| 02:48.17 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Starting to burn |
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| 02:49.08 | nvz | I don't suppose anyone knows which of the image video out plugins is fastest on mplayer? I've been dumping movies to jpeg but its pretty damn slow |
| 02:49.13 | Chascon | abrotman: ah, different project ... therefore the security mentioned enhancements in FSF page are not in Debian's IceWeasel. K thanks |
| 02:49.21 | abrotman | not likely |
| 02:49.24 | stew | Chascon: debian's iceweasel is not a cvs pull |
| 02:49.52 | Chascon | good point |
| 02:49.56 | dondelelcaro | gonzaloaf: ? |
| 02:50.00 | abrotman | the post he linked is from pre-etch |
| 02:50.29 | Chascon | the article is wrong, then |
| 02:50.38 | stew | the article is outdated |
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| 02:51.32 | Chascon | I compiled the debian version on and for OS X. Man was that finiky |
| 02:51.59 | ameyer | well, I'm not surprised |
| 02:52.19 | stew | Chascon: afaik, the only significant thing debian changes is font support |
| 02:52.45 | ameyer | Firefox was a b**** to get to compile the last time I tried... |
| 02:53.27 | Chascon | doesn't build as nicely or easily as the "official" stuff. It would break along in so many ways. Took two of experimenting with .mozconfig |
| 02:53.37 | gonzaloaf | dondelelcaro, yes |
| 02:53.48 | ameyer | and if Debian's patches cause it to not want to build on OSX, oh well |
| 02:53.52 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Just a little more |
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| 02:54.36 | Chascon | lol |
| 02:54.54 | Chascon | well, I didn't apply the patch, this time. So maybe that was my problem in the past. |
| 02:54.59 | Chris[] | Hello. I was trying to install something using apt-get install, but then I saw "Removing package network-manager", my response.. close the SSH session. So, now I'm kind of screwed here. |
| 02:55.07 | Chris[] | What'd I have to do to get network-manager back? |
| 02:55.46 | Max_- | How do I set a password for root?! The account is disabled, now it looks like I need su... |
| 02:55.58 | Chris[] | sudo passwd root <pass> i believe |
| 02:56.02 | stew | Chris[]: apt-get install network-manager |
| 02:56.06 | Chris[] | stew |
| 02:56.17 | Chris[] | but wouldn't that.. not work, since it can't connect to the internet, and thus not the repos? |
| 02:56.18 | dondelelcaro | gonzaloaf: you asked for me about 11 hours ago |
| 02:56.24 | Chascon | I was confused by the fact that IceWeasel is brought up as BonEcho |
| 02:56.26 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Alright, booting from the fresh CD |
| 02:56.48 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: you're not very responsive! :) |
| 02:56.58 | Kikkoman | abrotman: I don't think it was recognized. |
| 02:57.03 | Chascon | does ac_add_options --disable-official-branding disable IceWeasel branding? |
| 02:57.09 | stew | Chris[]: you should be able to connect it to the internet with "dhclient" |
| 02:57.13 | gonzaloaf | dondelelcaro, I have written a script that gets the apt_dump.gz file every week and restore it in a mysql db, and another to get the key_values, I want to know where does dpkg get the intro of its answers from, I mean the 'rumour has' extra extra extra, ....' ? |
| 02:57.14 | abrotman | Kikkoman: then i'm stumped .. i thought the 8108 was supported |
| 02:57.15 | Chris[] | dhclient? |
| 02:57.24 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: I was in the desert |
| 02:57.33 | Kikkoman | Was I to do a Gnomebaker data cd? |
| 02:57.45 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: oh .. excuses excuses :) |
| 02:57.50 | dondelelcaro | gonzaloaf: its in the source for blootbot (well, now infobot) |
| 02:57.53 | abrotman | Kikkoman: no .. as an ISO .. it should boot from it |
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| 02:58.11 | Chris[] | stew: dhclient? |
| 02:58.33 | abrotman | Kikkoman: under the 'Tools' menu .. there's a Burn Image option |
| 02:58.39 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Oh. |
| 02:58.42 | abrotman | whoops! |
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| 02:59.19 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Can I do 8x as opposed to 4x >.>; |
| 02:59.31 | abrotman | you can .. i suppose if it lets you |
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| 03:00.15 | gonzaloaf | dondelelcaro, Ohh I thought it was in the same db, the latest dump is always apt_dump.gz right? |
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| 03:00.41 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Ok..burning again -_-' |
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| 03:04.28 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Booting from CD |
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| 03:04.37 | abrotman | hopefully it works |
| 03:04.39 | Max_- | What about setting sound on Debian!? I know I have some realtek high definition audio, according to Windoze! |
| 03:05.10 | abrotman | snd-hda-intel .. maybe |
| 03:05.37 | Kikkoman | abrotman: We have lift off |
| 03:05.50 | abrotman | Kikkoman: good .. bed time for me :) |
| 03:06.03 | Kikkoman | Before you go |
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| 03:06.05 | ShadowPhoenix | can anyone please portscan me and tell me if I got anything open that shouldn't be open please? |
| 03:06.05 | Kikkoman | Is there anything special I need to do? |
| 03:06.06 | abrotman | ok |
| 03:06.17 | abrotman | Kikkoman: not that i know of .. just finish the install .. |
| 03:07.07 | dondelelcaro | gonzaloaf: yes |
| 03:07.11 | Kikkoman | abrotman: It's showing different things now |
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| 03:07.30 | abrotman | different? |
| 03:07.45 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Realtek Semiconductor Co... Express Fast E. and Broadcom Corp. Dell Wireless 1390 Mini-PCI Card |
| 03:07.50 | abrotman | that's good |
| 03:08.01 | abrotman | one is your wifi .. the other is your wired |
| 03:08.10 | abrotman | the Realtek si the wired |
| 03:08.12 | Kikkoman | It's a laptop |
| 03:08.18 | Kikkoman | So I wanted to do a wireless connection >.>; |
| 03:08.27 | abrotman | if it works .. if not .. do the wired |
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| 03:08.46 | ShadowPhoenix | how come nmaping oneself takes ages? |
| 03:09.20 | Kikkoman | abrotman: DHCP Failed ;-; |
| 03:09.29 | abrotman | on which one ? |
| 03:09.32 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Manual config or should I restart with Wired? |
| 03:09.36 | abrotman | do the wired |
| 03:09.39 | Kikkoman | k |
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| 03:09.55 | Kikkoman | Good night, and thanks |
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| 03:11.04 | gonzaloaf | dondelelcaro, ty |
| 03:11.23 | Chascon | just to clarify, patches such as http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/iceweasel/iceweasel_2.0.0.8-1.diff.gz are Debian's patches onto the ff official source code, and they are applied posthumously, right to all? |
| 03:12.04 | Max_- | Installed alsa-base, how do I know what module to load then? |
| 03:12.35 | stew | Max_-: run alsaconf |
| 03:13.44 | dondelelcaro | Chascon: all except for posthumously |
| 03:14.05 | dondelelcaro | Chascon: though you can double check that that's the only change by comparing the orig.tar.gz |
| 03:14.37 | Chascon | I see that http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/iceweasel lists the iceweasel code and then a diff, which I imagine is a patch |
| 03:15.26 | Max_- | stew: Thanks A LOT! :D |
| 03:15.29 | Chascon | dondelelcaro: comparing to see if it is the only change, is that what listed diff.gzs are for? |
| 03:15.31 | Max_- | it works :) |
| 03:15.52 | stew | Chascon: the diff.gz is a patch to be applied to the orig.tar.gz. the orig.tar.gz in this case is not the original tar.gz from mozilla, it has been modified as described in the copyright file |
| 03:16.10 | Chascon | ah |
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| 03:17.33 | Chascon | so if I took the patch and added it to the ff source, I'd end up with the same iceweasel source list on http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/iceweasel ? |
| 03:17.49 | dondelelcaro | Chascon: no, but it should be close |
| 03:17.55 | Chascon | k |
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| 03:18.06 | dondelelcaro | Chascon: you'd have to also remove whatever the orig.tar.gz package has removed |
| 03:18.35 | stew | notably, the non-free artwork |
| 03:18.43 | Chascon | ahm that's right ... remove the priprietary stuff |
| 03:18.56 | dondelelcaro | yeah; in general it should just be some files which were rm'ed |
| 03:19.03 | Chascon | proprietary artwork and logo |
| 03:19.57 | Chascon | still, why did my iceweasel build create e dmg called firefox and start as BonEcho? I expected it to say IceWeasel. |
| 03:20.32 | Chascon | might have ac_add_options --disable-official-branding removed the IceWeasel branding? |
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| 03:21.40 | NeM | hi |
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| 03:24.53 | edju | Problem w/ wireless. Paste at http://rafb.net/p/7vyWgP40.html. Might someone take a gander and see if there's something obviously wrong? |
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| 03:27.01 | stew | edju: you might try adding "wireless-channel 6" (or whatever channel you are on) to interfaces as well |
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| 03:28.51 | edju | stew, Yes, - the router channel is set to auto - I can set a channel. Does it make a difference what channel is set? |
| 03:30.17 | stew | edju: the fact that you are getting "send_packet: Network is unreachable" tells me that you are not you associated with an AP. telling it which channel to find the essid on would help it associate |
| 03:31.18 | edju | stew: OK, thanks. |
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| 03:40.51 | GhostlyDeath | does Debian work when Intel Vanderpool Technology is enabled? |
| 03:42.27 | gonzaloaf | hi, what does this message mean? '6 signatures not checked due to missing keys' i get that when I try to check a sign key by me |
| 03:43.39 | GhostlyDeath | Is DEP for EVERYTHING automatically enabled when supported? |
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| 03:44.06 | GhostlyDeath | !dep |
| 03:44.16 | GhostlyDeath | !nx |
| 03:44.16 | dpkg | i heard nx is http://www.nomachine.com/ NX terminal server client/server. Like VNC but faster, with security, multi-client. Partially non-free. #nx |
| 03:44.28 | GhostlyDeath | nope |
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| 03:48.32 | Iridos | Vanderpool? |
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| 03:50.06 | GhostlyDeath | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization#Intel_VT_.28IVT.29 |
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| 03:53.38 | Iridos | if linux generally runs there, I dont see why debian should not |
| 03:55.33 | Iridos | uh, must've pressed ctrl-L |
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| 03:57.15 | ike1 | hi |
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| 04:12.33 | gonzaloaf | why use debian as server instead ubuntu? |
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| 04:25.48 | Iridos | less rapid updates on debian stable :) |
| 04:26.29 | Iridos | saying releases do not come so quickly and make full updates necessary |
| 04:27.33 | Iridos | !why debian |
| 04:27.33 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
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| 04:44.05 | MrTelephone | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.11 | MrTelephone | anyone get that with the latest updates? |
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| 04:44.26 | MaliutaWrk | yeah, linking issue, get over it |
| 04:44.34 | MrTelephone | how do you get it to run anyways |
| 04:44.40 | MaliutaWrk | if you don't know how to fix it you shouldn't be using unstable |
| 04:44.57 | MrTelephone | unstable always has the newest crap |
| 04:46.10 | MrTelephone | im not even using encrypted time requests |
| 04:46.12 | MaliutaWrk | but it's called unstable for a reason |
| 04:46.28 | MaliutaWrk | and if you can't deal with shite breaking don't use it |
| 04:46.28 | MrTelephone | im not complaining im asking how to fix it |
| 04:46.43 | MaliutaWrk | rebuild the package linking against the new lib |
| 04:46.59 | MaliutaWrk | or wait for the maintainer to |
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| 04:51.10 | MrTelephone | after three years its the only thing that really broke |
| 04:51.19 | MrTelephone | except for kernel modules during a kernel update |
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| 04:52.29 | MaliutaWrk | roll your own kernels |
| 04:53.44 | MrTelephone | might as well roll my own distro too |
| 04:53.51 | MrTelephone | joking.. |
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| 04:55.50 | MaliutaWrk | I regularly roll my own packages of big things (Postgres, PHP, apche) if you want specific options on and/or off you have to do it yourself |
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| 04:56.07 | MaliutaWrk | the options used by maintainers are generic, they do not suit everyone |
| 04:56.24 | MaliutaWrk | there is no "standard" for these things |
| 04:56.28 | DawnLight | i have to say something. something really important. i've been saying this for the past few minutes aloud to my self and i just want to share this with you all and get some opinions. so i'm going to say it. here, i've said it aloud again. i have to spit it out. "windows is shit!" sorry if i made a mess |
| 04:56.52 | MrTelephone | windows is alright if you don't plug it into the internet |
| 04:57.11 | DawnLight | it is shit, mind me saying |
| 04:57.17 | lhadji | It's awesome for playing lan games |
| 04:57.34 | DawnLight | i've just installed it for the sake of colin mcrae dirt |
| 04:57.44 | MrTelephone | linux has the same library problems windows does |
| 04:57.45 | MaliutaWrk | cames are a waste of cycles |
| 04:57.50 | MaliutaWrk | games even |
| 04:58.12 | DawnLight | library problems? |
| 04:58.21 | MrTelephone | i want weach program to have its own static libs |
| 04:58.26 | MrTelephone | i don't care if there is 600 of the same lib |
| 04:58.36 | MrTelephone | a terrabyte harddrive is 200 dolalrs |
| 04:58.37 | MrTelephone | haha |
| 04:59.02 | DawnLight | it is? wow... |
| 04:59.12 | DawnLight | windows is shit |
| 04:59.30 | DawnLight | so... what were we talking about here? |
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| 05:00.38 | Guerin | MrTelephone: start your own distro |
| 05:00.54 | lhadji | That's just what Linux needs |
| 05:01.03 | Guerin | in fact, we had the same idea in here several years ago ... decided to call it `Tardix' |
| 05:01.10 | DawnLight | call it " statilib " |
| 05:01.20 | lhadji | Call it windows is shit |
| 05:01.30 | Guerin | that would be stupid |
| 05:01.35 | horde | or "windows is shit but i have to install it to play games" |
| 05:01.45 | Guerin | because I'm too poor to buy a console |
| 05:01.47 | lhadji | yeah perfect name |
| 05:01.55 | DawnLight | i think that is the full name of windows |
| 05:02.09 | Guerin | s/games/excel/ and you may just be right |
| 05:02.23 | horde | or "i hate windows but i goes back to it times and times again" |
| 05:02.44 | dalias | you only have lib problems if you use binaryware from bad sources... |
| 05:02.50 | MrTelephone | what the hell kind of OS is apple running |
| 05:02.55 | Guerin | all binaryware is from bad sources |
| 05:02.56 | MrTelephone | glorified suse or what |
| 05:02.59 | dalias | if all your software is free and you get it from your distro's packaging system there's no problem |
| 05:02.59 | Guerin | but i suppose you're right |
| 05:03.01 | DawnLight | stop with the madness. it is in my system. thought i got rid of it |
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| 05:03.44 | dalias | btw "tardix" is great :) |
| 05:03.53 | Guerin | why thankyou |
| 05:03.53 | DawnLight | heheh |
| 05:04.16 | Guerin | !tardix |
| 05:04.16 | dpkg | tardix is probably a distribution based on debian, but where everything is statically compiled. No more pesky dependencies! No more annoying dynamic linkage problems! Oh, and there's only one user. it's not root, and it's not administrator, it's ... tard! |
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| 05:04.32 | MrTelephone | i recompiled ntpd but it seems a little tardy |
| 05:04.35 | dalias | lmao |
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| 05:04.56 | MrTelephone | lol |
| 05:05.02 | MrTelephone | so someone alreayd had my idea then? |
| 05:05.05 | MrTelephone | they are going to be rich |
| 05:05.10 | MrTelephone | the most reliable machine around |
| 05:05.12 | dalias | my homebrew system is also all static-linked |
| 05:05.24 | Guerin | yes, we had it back in ... 2004 i think |
| 05:05.28 | Guerin | !factinfo tardix |
| 05:05.29 | dpkg | tardix -- created by Guerin <~magpie@220.123.169.70> at Sat Jan 8 06:06:02 2005 (1016 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by Guerin, 1m 13s ago. |
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| 05:05.36 | Guerin | yep |
| 05:05.43 | dalias | and the footprint in memory is tiny, way smaller than a glibc-based system with dynamic linking |
| 05:05.59 | dalias | because the whole libc is smaller than the elf dynamic linking overhead :) |
| 05:06.34 | MrTelephone | the biggest problem with debian is sometimes doing the upgrades where dependancies glue up the packaging system |
| 05:06.44 | MrTelephone | i still think debian is better than redhat :( |
| 05:06.50 | dalias | debian is great |
| 05:06.53 | Guerin | those only happen if you do stupid things |
| 05:06.58 | dalias | *nod* |
| 05:06.58 | mosty | i do upgrades all the time without issue |
| 05:07.05 | Guerin | yerp, me too |
| 05:07.06 | MrTelephone | if yo do it once a year |
| 05:07.10 | MrTelephone | its tough on it |
| 05:07.21 | Guerin | that qualifies as mildly stupid |
| 05:07.26 | dalias | if you only want to do rare upgrades you should run stable |
| 05:07.29 | Guerin | unless you run stable |
| 05:07.42 | dalias | running testing or unstable requires moderately frequent maintainence |
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| 05:07.54 | dalias | to keep from getting in a nasty difficult-to-upgrade state |
| 05:08.03 | xsdg | dalias: not too frequent |
| 05:08.10 | DawnLight | why difficult to upgrade? |
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| 05:08.14 | xsdg | dalias: I'm lazy and I've only been bitten a few times in a few years |
| 05:08.15 | MrTelephone | testing is the brutal one |
| 05:08.22 | chronographer | hello. is there a way for me to use an old gphoto2 rather than the current one, which doesn't support my camera ?? |
| 05:08.23 | DawnLight | how would you get in a state like that? |
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| 05:08.31 | MrTelephone | i ran stable before and there were still running windows 2.1 |
| 05:08.35 | MrTelephone | heh |
| 05:08.38 | dalias | well whenever i've gone to upgrade a system that wasn't upgraded for a year or two, i always had troubles |
| 05:08.43 | dalias | dunno the reason |
| 05:08.43 | Guerin | DawnLight: it's amazing what a body can do if he really tries to fuck himself up |
| 05:08.45 | dalias | just that it happened |
| 05:09.01 | dalias | 3.1 you mean? |
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| 05:09.06 | dalias | there was no windows 2.1 |
| 05:09.07 | MrTelephone | php 4 -> 5 gave me troubles |
| 05:09.16 | Guerin | chronographer: the old gphoto2 supports it but not the new one? Are you sure? |
| 05:09.21 | MrTelephone | sometimes if you upgrade a kernel it gets jammed if you delete the old one before you reboot |
| 05:10.11 | mosty | i setup a local dns server, and i can do "host laptop1" and it resolves fine, but "ping laptop1" can't resolve the name. is this a problem with ping? |
| 05:10.25 | MrTelephone | I get this adreneline rush running unstable.. especially on production machines where things can go wrong and you may be up all night fixing it hahah |
| 05:10.30 | chronographer | yes |
| 05:10.41 | chronographer | new version doesn't work, old one does |
| 05:11.22 | chronographer | you must excuse me, i use ubuntu. I tried going NEWER by using a lenny deb of gphoto2, but thats what i currently use too. |
| 05:11.28 | DawnLight | mosty: sounds incredible |
| 05:11.37 | chronographer | so I wonder if its feasable to use an older version |
| 05:11.42 | DawnLight | !ubuntu |
| 05:11.42 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 05:11.48 | mosty | DawnLight, telnet can resolve the name fine. hping and nmap can't resolve it either |
| 05:11.57 | chronographer | i know i konw.. they suck at giving advice tho... |
| 05:12.14 | MrTelephone | having ten million flavors of linux is really anti productive |
| 05:12.25 | DawnLight | chronographer, use debian, then |
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| 05:12.38 | DawnLight | it is |
| 05:12.52 | DawnLight | but there's freedom for ya |
| 05:12.55 | chronographer | =) Im thinking about it. |
| 05:13.07 | MrTelephone | whats the most popular desktop these days? |
| 05:13.18 | Guerin | formica, I guess |
| 05:13.25 | DawnLight | many have walked that path, chronographer |
| 05:13.28 | Guerin | that shit is everywhere |
| 05:13.35 | DawnLight | i did, actualy |
| 05:13.53 | chronographer | is there a #gphoto channel? |
| 05:13.53 | DawnLight | !formica |
| 05:14.10 | MrTelephone | suse? |
| 05:14.11 | Guerin | chronographer: doubtful. |
| 05:14.12 | chronographer | nvr mind, Ill ask #gphoto about #gphoto questions... |
| 05:14.16 | DawnLight | dpkg: formica is the most popular desktop, probably. |
| 05:14.17 | dpkg | okay, DawnLight |
| 05:14.35 | chronographer | !formica |
| 05:14.35 | dpkg | somebody said formica was the most popular desktop, probably. |
| 05:14.43 | chronographer | heh! nice |
| 05:14.53 | chronographer | !moo |
| 05:14.54 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 05:14.56 | Guerin | ZOMG, thery've cracked the secret dpkg syntax! |
| 05:15.03 | Guerin | everything is ruined for ever! |
| 05:15.20 | DawnLight | no no it is not ovet yet |
| 05:15.27 | DawnLight | we can retaliate! |
| 05:15.36 | DawnLight | !attack! |
| 05:15.36 | chronographer | dpkg: dont listen to DawnLight, hes probably not correct |
| 05:15.42 | chronographer | damn |
| 05:15.42 | Guerin | hah |
| 05:15.54 | Guerin | i see their understanding is yet imperfect |
| 05:16.06 | DawnLight | we are saved... for now |
| 05:16.40 | DawnLight | oh well... off to ##windows |
| 05:16.51 | MrTelephone | my ca ssl key has been compromised |
| 05:17.03 | MrTelephone | i must pay verisign 10,000$ to get a new one |
| 05:17.06 | MrTelephone | or just self sign my own |
| 05:17.08 | MrTelephone | for free |
| 05:17.11 | MrTelephone | which one will it be? |
| 05:17.45 | Guerin | you lie |
| 05:18.15 | MrTelephone | certificate companies are a joke |
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| 05:18.35 | MrTelephone | i'll sign yours for 4 dollars |
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| 05:20.06 | DawnLight | them folk at verisign are mental but not as much as their friends at verichip |
| 05:20.41 | MrTelephone | i guess kde is probably still the best desktop out there |
| 05:20.48 | Guerin | !guess |
| 05:20.48 | dpkg | methinks guess is a hypothesis based on nothing |
| 05:21.03 | MrTelephone | i remember when enlightenment was popular but it started has a background picture and you had to build everything yourself |
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| 05:21.28 | fusquanto | what does it mean if im loading a .php file on my own server , and instead of loading hte php file it is asking me if i want to save it? |
| 05:21.31 | Mordbrann | I like fluxbox |
| 05:21.44 | Mordbrann | fusquanto: mime problems? |
| 05:22.02 | mosty | fusquanto, means you haven't loaded the php module for apache, or maybe you haven't told it to use the module for .php files |
| 05:22.03 | fusquanto | also "about:php" returns nothing |
| 05:22.28 | fusquanto | hmm, i have libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 05:22.52 | fusquanto | Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/4.4.4-8+etch3 Server at www... |
| 05:22.59 | fusquanto | is what my server shows |
| 05:23.12 | mosty | fusquanto, are there php configs in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ ? |
| 05:23.14 | MrTelephone | go into mods-enabled dir and type |
| 05:23.28 | MrTelephone | ln -s ../mods-available/php4.load |
| 05:23.31 | MrTelephone | ln -s ../mods-available/php4.conf |
| 05:23.38 | MrTelephone | and reload |
| 05:24.07 | fusquanto | mosty: php4.conf and php4.load are in that dir |
| 05:24.15 | fusquanto | MrTelephone: ok doing |
| 05:24.17 | MrTelephone | i just installed www.nutsmail.com skin for squirrelmail |
| 05:24.35 | MrTelephone | are they linked to mods-available |
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| 05:24.41 | MrTelephone | ln -l php* |
| 05:24.43 | mosty | fusquanto, try restarting apache2 |
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| 05:25.05 | MrTelephone | i spent an hour once and found out i linked to the wrong file and ssl wouldn't work |
| 05:25.07 | MrTelephone | that pissed me off |
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| 05:26.39 | fusquanto | yes they are mosty |
| 05:26.41 | fusquanto | restarting |
| 05:26.47 | fusquanto | i mean yes they are linked MrTelephone |
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| 05:27.38 | MrTelephone | not sure what else to tell u man it should work |
| 05:28.12 | fusquanto | same thing :( |
| 05:28.17 | fusquanto | shoudlnt about:php respond |
| 05:28.30 | fusquanto | coudl it be permisions of the .php file? |
| 05:28.34 | fusquanto | im trying to configure gallery2 |
| 05:28.48 | fusquanto | the file is /usr/share/gallery2/install/install.php |
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| 05:29.16 | MrTelephone | might have to be chmod +x |
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| 05:29.51 | mosty | fusquanto, try a simple foo.php file with <? phpinfo(); ?> in it |
| 05:29.56 | chronographer | Is it bad to install an older deb than the current one for my system? |
| 05:30.01 | mosty | and watch the apache logs |
| 05:30.06 | cahoot | fusquanto, you have installed gallery2 as a debian pkg? |
| 05:30.11 | fusquanto | yes cahoot |
| 05:30.12 | mosty | chronographer, possibly |
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| 05:30.41 | MrTelephone | in mime.conf try putting AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .php |
| 05:30.46 | chronographer | if i apt-get remove, then install a deb, as long as it has no dependencies it should be fine tho ?? (nothing depends on it i should say) |
| 05:30.59 | fusquanto | mosty: that didnt work (foo.php) |
| 05:31.20 | MrTelephone | i had to do AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl for my perl scripts to work |
| 05:31.23 | MrTelephone | the slut |
| 05:31.25 | mosty | fusquanto, what do the apache logs show you? |
| 05:31.31 | fusquanto | where is mime.conf? |
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| 05:31.40 | MrTelephone | mods-available |
| 05:32.02 | MrTelephone | my squirrel mail works and my addhandler is turned off |
| 05:32.03 | MrTelephone | hmm |
| 05:32.05 | MrTelephone | one sec |
| 05:32.13 | ebil | anyone have any luck getting the fglrx drivers to work? (I'm stuck with them because I need tv-out to work, but I can't get the correct GLX drivers to load |
| 05:32.19 | fusquanto | PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20050606+lfs/gd.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20050606+lfs/gd.so: canno$ |
| 05:32.19 | fusquanto | [Mon Oct 22 00:51:48 2007] [notice] Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/4.4.4-8+etch3 configured -- resuming normal operations |
| 05:32.40 | fusquanto | :( |
| 05:32.43 | fusquanto | whats that mean |
| 05:32.51 | MrTelephone | oh |
| 05:32.57 | fusquanto | cannot open such file |
| 05:32.59 | MrTelephone | gd library |
| 05:33.10 | MrTelephone | thats a graphics librqry |
| 05:33.18 | fusquanto | what package? |
| 05:33.32 | mosty | php4, probably |
| 05:33.39 | fusquanto | buttt... |
| 05:33.41 | mosty | since it's in a php4 lib directory |
| 05:33.41 | fusquanto | i have that! |
| 05:33.41 | MrTelephone | php4-gd |
| 05:33.43 | fusquanto | oh |
| 05:33.46 | MrTelephone | try that |
| 05:33.52 | fusquanto | ok dont have that |
| 05:33.53 | fusquanto | getting it |
| 05:34.14 | daveinthesky | chronographer: yes |
| 05:34.51 | fusquanto | k i apt-got it, MrTelephone , and then /etc/init.d/apache2 restart , and still same error :( |
| 05:34.54 | MrTelephone | i worked on certificates this weekend.. setup proftpd imapd pop3d exim4 with tls |
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| 05:35.02 | MrTelephone | aww :( |
| 05:35.16 | MrTelephone | cannot find gd? |
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| 05:35.57 | ebil | sorry, had to try someting. in any case, I get returned from fglrxinfo that my current glx lib is: OpenGL vendor string: Brian Paul |
| 05:35.57 | ebil | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa X11 |
| 05:35.57 | ebil | OpenGL version string: 1.5 Mesa 6.5.1 |
| 05:36.07 | fusquanto | Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20050606+lfs/gd.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20050606+lfs/gd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 05:36.19 | MrTelephone | frusquanto, are u sure there isn't a config.php before install? |
| 05:36.30 | fusquanto | im just trying to open a generic foo.php |
| 05:36.43 | fusquanto | <? phpinfo(); ?> |
| 05:36.47 | fusquanto | from /home/fusquanto |
| 05:36.48 | mosty | fusquanto, what version of php4 is installed? and with debian release are you using? |
| 05:36.48 | MrTelephone | why is it accessing a gd library |
| 05:37.00 | MrTelephone | hmm |
| 05:37.11 | fusquanto | running etch |
| 05:37.43 | fusquanto | i did a big upgrade last week |
| 05:37.56 | fusquanto | it just says php4 is the newest vversion |
| 05:38.15 | fusquanto | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
| 05:38.15 | fusquanto | deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
| 05:38.19 | fusquanto | is in my apt.sources |
| 05:38.33 | MrTelephone | fusquanto, do a find /* -name gd.so |
| 05:38.37 | mosty | fusquanto, do you have security.debian.org in your sources? |
| 05:38.51 | fusquanto | mosty: no :( |
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| 05:39.09 | fusquanto | i got two returns MrTelephone , one for php5 one for php4 |
| 05:39.12 | mosty | well add it, then do an apt-get update and upgrade |
| 05:39.22 | fusquanto | k |
| 05:39.34 | MrTelephone | aare they in the directory where php is looking? |
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| 05:40.08 | MrTelephone | for shits and giggles just make sure the library is in that spot |
| 05:40.08 | MrTelephone | heh |
| 05:40.16 | MrTelephone | and see what the next error you get is |
| 05:40.20 | fusquanto | k let me add that source |
| 05:40.59 | fusquanto | do you know what hte exact url is , is it http://security.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free ? |
| 05:41.01 | MrTelephone | i found that gallery had to be configured all the time in an upgrade |
| 05:41.10 | fusquanto | yes thats where im at MrTelephone :( |
| 05:41.11 | MrTelephone | gotta go |
| 05:41.16 | fusquanto | nooo :( |
| 05:41.20 | fusquanto | ok thanks for your help |
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| 05:41.32 | MrTelephone | make sure gd.so is int hat location and see what happens |
| 05:41.41 | MrTelephone | mkdir 20073024t or whatever it was |
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| 05:44.22 | fusquanto | yes that file was in that location, mosty |
| 05:44.25 | fusquanto | argh |
| 05:44.27 | fusquanto | ill try again tomorrow |
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| 05:49.24 | fusquanto | ok its installing new php4 stuff |
| 05:49.29 | fusquanto | after i put in the security.debian.org |
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| 05:56.47 | Solet | it's just full of stuff on iptables |
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| 06:06.18 | techbie | !tell RabidWeezle about ask |
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| 06:14.06 | Guerin | rather than pointless chrome and shite |
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| 06:46.49 | famicon | you a hts member? |
| 06:46.58 | DosKey | Used to be. |
| 06:47.16 | DosKey | :o |
| 06:47.17 | DosKey | XD |
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| 06:47.36 | DosKey | Where you been ? |
| 06:48.00 | scenestar | I started my own business remember/ |
| 06:48.14 | DosKey | OOOOOOoooooh yeah that's right. |
| 06:48.21 | scenestar | i make a few grand each week nowadays |
| 06:48.31 | DosKey | :o |
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| 06:48.49 | DosKey | You must be on a high just off the happyness. |
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| 06:49.04 | scenestar | nah, i still use meth |
| 06:49.10 | DosKey | lulz |
| 06:49.35 | scenestar | but after hts i just got sick of doing things for free and started charging people for my services |
| 06:49.53 | scenestar | so now i own an "IT solutions provider" |
| 06:50.18 | scenestar | remember those plans for rootthisbox with using all the virtual machines? |
| 06:50.28 | DosKey | Sounds good and yeah i do. |
| 06:50.52 | DosKey | You passed it on ? |
| 06:50.59 | scenestar | no |
| 06:51.06 | scenestar | i started a webhost |
| 06:51.28 | vyrus001 | is it normal after seeing a system's LOMlite console boot to not be able to type input to it? |
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| 06:52.15 | DosKey | try ctrl+alt+f2 |
| 06:52.20 | DosKey | :s |
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| 06:52.39 | DosKey | err |
| 06:52.51 | DosKey | I better wiki LOmlite |
| 06:53.23 | scenestar | DosKey anyways, right now i own a fsckload of hardware, i got a corporate suite in a tall building |
| 06:53.29 | vyrus001 | heh yea i did but i didnt see anything about not being able to type inpuyt |
| 06:53.46 | vyrus001 | i was worried it might be the cable since i had to barrow it |
| 06:54.21 | DosKey | Well scenestar i'll join you when i finish college :P |
| 06:54.34 | DosKey | and |
| 06:54.36 | DosKey | erm |
| 06:54.40 | scenestar | DosKey well, if you need an internship or something |
| 06:54.44 | DosKey | vyrus001 |
| 06:54.47 | scenestar | whcih reminds me |
| 06:54.50 | scenestar | IM STILL A DROPOUT |
| 06:54.58 | scenestar | i still need to finish highscool |
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| 06:55.02 | DosKey | 07:53 < vyrus001> heh yea i did but i didnt see anything about not being able to type inpuyt |
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| 06:55.42 | vyrus001 | DosKey: heh yea me eather |
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| 06:57.30 | DosKey | vyrus001 |
| 06:57.32 | DosKey | You might try setting serial_security=0 (or toggling it) in /platform/sun4u/kernel/drv/lom.conf |
| 06:57.35 | DosKey | Removing the battery from the LOM card for a while and reinserting may help too. |
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| 06:59.17 | vyrus001 | DosKey: hm... i didnt know i could reset the lom |
| 06:59.30 | vyrus001 | but settings is gona be hard since its a headless system |
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| 07:00.47 | aspWork | morning, what is the correct way to install the nvidia drivers under lenny? I cant seem to find the nvidia-kernel-source that all the docs are refering to?ยฝ |
| 07:01.35 | DosKey | hehe |
| 07:01.40 | DosKey | I just done that tonight |
| 07:01.42 | DosKey | erm |
| 07:02.23 | DosKey | apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r` |
| 07:02.33 | DosKey | or no |
| 07:02.34 | DosKey | wait |
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| 07:03.11 | DosKey | aspwork what does uname -r produce ? |
| 07:03.37 | aspWork | DosKey, 2.6.22-2-686 |
| 07:03.41 | DosKey | well |
| 07:03.53 | vyrus001 | aspWork: get it from nvidia |
| 07:04.02 | DosKey | I couldn't |
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| 07:04.06 | aspWork | vyrus001, ok, just run their installer? |
| 07:04.07 | DosKey | I had to compile it myself |
| 07:04.07 | vyrus001 | if u fallow there site it there is a linux drivers section |
| 07:04.12 | DosKey | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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| 07:04.33 | DosKey | apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.22-2-686 |
| 07:04.36 | vyrus001 | aspWork: i dont know the "proper" debian way but yes... thats what i have done... there installer will refrance your kernel hearders and make your kernel module and xorg driver |
| 07:04.36 | RabidWeezle | restricted drivers app should make you alright |
| 07:04.39 | aspWork | ill give the nvidia one a try then, even if id prefer doing it the debian way |
| 07:04.42 | DosKey | apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.22-2-686 |
| 07:04.46 | RabidWeezle | nvm |
| 07:04.47 | DosKey | Then |
| 07:04.48 | RabidWeezle | lol |
| 07:04.48 | DosKey | Do |
| 07:04.49 | aspWork | doskey |
| 07:04.51 | dimir | Moin! |
| 07:05.23 | aspWork | i have the headers installed |
| 07:05.27 | DosKey | well |
| 07:06.19 | vyrus001 | aspWork: did you make the linux sim link in /usr/src? |
| 07:06.31 | aspWork | vyrus001, probably not |
| 07:06.36 | DosKey | sh nvidia.run --kernel-name=KERNEL-NAME |
| 07:06.39 | DosKey | erm |
| 07:06.47 | DosKey | sh nvidia.run --kernel-name=/usr/src/linux |
| 07:06.49 | aspWork | its there |
| 07:07.07 | DosKey | You using gnome ? |
| 07:07.09 | vyrus001 | aspWork: id do an ls -l /usr/src/linux just to be sure its pointing to the right place |
| 07:07.19 | aspWork | vyrus001, it is |
| 07:07.33 | DosKey | Well close down x and do that XD |
| 07:07.38 | DosKey | I was stuck for ages |
| 07:07.41 | DosKey | Earlier |
| 07:07.44 | DosKey | Doing that. |
| 07:07.49 | vyrus001 | aspWork: cool then yea run there instller and it should do what you need it to do |
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| 07:08.24 | DosKey | reZo !!! |
| 07:08.28 | reZo | DosKey: :D |
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| 07:08.30 | reZo | whats up man |
| 07:08.36 | DosKey | Nothing much. |
| 07:08.42 | DosKey | You ? |
| 07:09.23 | reZo | DosKey: just coding |
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| 07:10.07 | DosKey | Same here |
| 07:10.13 | DosKey | College is fun. |
| 07:10.16 | reZo | ;) |
| 07:10.19 | DosKey | :P |
| 07:10.22 | reZo | ya, college is fun |
| 07:10.37 | reZo | what subjects you taking? |
| 07:12.40 | Solet | where does the init script for ftpd go after install? |
| 07:12.58 | epsilon | ./etc/init.d |
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| 07:14.00 | scenestar | DosKey |
| 07:14.03 | scenestar | why did you leave hts btw? |
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| 07:15.43 | DosKey | No point |
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| 07:15.52 | DosKey | Everyine morklitu sees me he glines me |
| 07:15.54 | ringo999 | hi. im using ipw3945 module for my wifi. its really strange: after boot up i can not connect to any network. however, after reloading the module everything works. also, sometimes after connecting, when running X, the screen just gets black for no apparent reason. :-( |
| 07:16.10 | DosKey | I'm not changng my nick of ban evading just for that tosser |
| 07:16.13 | DosKey | *or |
| 07:16.18 | DosKey | And reZo |
| 07:16.22 | DosKey | BTEC diploma |
| 07:16.27 | DosKey | 4 year sourse |
| 07:16.30 | DosKey | *Course |
| 07:16.56 | x_dimitri | hi guys, I need some help configuring apt-get to use a proxy |
| 07:17.46 | scenestar | FUCK I AM BORED |
| 07:17.49 | scenestar | FUCK YOU ALL |
| 07:17.49 | x_dimitri | I've tried the apt how-to does not mention proxy configuration |
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| 07:17.54 | DosKey | Calm down |
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| 07:18.18 | DosKey | It's probably not compiled with proxy compatibilaty |
| 07:18.38 | Solet | -_- vsftpd wont let me login |
| 07:18.45 | gcbirzan | You can export http_proxy... Or, try this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/177 |
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| 07:19.40 | ringo999 | anyone here with an ibook g3 running debian for powerpc? how did you get the wifi to work? |
| 07:20.14 | reZo | DosKey: heh |
| 07:22.18 | reZo | ringo999: tried wpa_supplicant? |
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| 07:23.16 | wAndyw | How could I automatically let a WLAN interface reconnect to an AP when the signal was lost? |
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| 07:26.13 | vlt | Hello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M? |
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| 07:27.54 | wAndyw | vlt: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L269+I0+T+P1+Qclient-error-request-value-too-long ? |
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| 07:29.59 | g00se | Best way to reboot over ssh? This is what i'm doing but there's hanging going on, so something slightly wrong(?): nohup sleep 45 && sudo grub-reboot 2 & |
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| 07:30.09 | wAndyw | clt: btw, it's not nice to ask in both #debian and #ubuntu |
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| 07:30.11 | cpilka | hi folks. anyone here knows where to get mutt-ng as a ready-to-use .deb package for etch? |
| 07:30.49 | wAndyw | g00se: a simple "reboot" does the job here over ssh |
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| 07:32.00 | arctanx | I'm using a ppc netinstaller disc, and I'm wondering if the installer's willingness to resize my hfs+ (non-journalled) partition will be nice to the filesystem, or simply trample it. Does anyone know? |
| 07:32.26 | g00se | Well, in my case that would be sudo grub-reboot 2 then. Shall try it. Didn't like the idea of 'rug pulling' if you know what i mean... |
| 07:32.37 | arctanx | I've read that parted is able to do it, but I'm not sure what the debian installer uses |
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| 07:32.57 | g00se | wAndyw: Thanks (see above) |
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| 07:34.32 | wAndyw | g00se: If you system is going down, it will send messages to the open programs, so ssh will exit itself without problems |
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| 07:35.39 | g00se | wAndyw: Ah ok. In my case, i'm rebooting to a different partition. I think grub-reboot is asking a y/n question |
| 07:36.44 | DosKey | Night night people |
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| 07:38.26 | dacs | hey guys ,how are you all tonight |
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| 07:44.01 | dacs | anyone heard of HummingBirds Terminals ? |
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| 08:07.04 | speedy | what are the options for having shared storage for a web server cluster? |
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| 08:08.56 | sep | speedy, shared network fs (nfs/afs/coda/NAS/any other) shared block device (nbd, iscsi fiberchannel, shared regular scsi, san solutions) |
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| 08:10.54 | speedy | sep, as long as i know that nfs is dead for cluster, i'm looking for affordable solution san is expensive for me, can i have multiple web servers reading/writing from NAS ? |
| 08:11.36 | sep | speedy, ofcourse but a NAS uses a network fs, so you still must pick one that suites you |
| 08:12.14 | sep | and iscsi give you a block devive so it's like a cheap san |
| 08:13.10 | speedy | i'll have to read more about iscsi |
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| 08:22.16 | montoya | hi |
| 08:22.18 | montoya | bash: make.bat: command not found |
| 08:22.22 | montoya | I have this error |
| 08:22.54 | liable | make.bat? |
| 08:23.06 | montoya | yes :( |
| 08:23.16 | liable | what did you read that made you decide that was a command? |
| 08:23.38 | montoya | I have a normal Makefile... |
| 08:23.47 | grub_ | montoya, make |
| 08:23.49 | montoya | I launch "make" command |
| 08:24.06 | montoya | and... bash: make.bat: command not found |
| 08:24.21 | liable | then your makefile is broken |
| 08:24.22 | n00bular | sounds like it thinks it's compiling on win32 did you run the configure script? |
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| 08:24.40 | n00bular | configure script may autodetect your platform |
| 08:24.41 | montoya | this is output after command |
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| 08:25.27 | Enigma | how can I find out which ram modules are in my computer? (without opening it ;)) |
| 08:25.39 | drwahl | is there a tool to run a single command on a remote machine and have it output to the console i am currently on? |
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| 08:26.27 | liable | Enigma: dmidecode may |
| 08:26.50 | daveinthesky | drwahl: ssh <user>@<hostname> "mycommand1;mycommand2;mycommand3" |
| 08:26.52 | liable | drwahl: ssh |
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| 08:27.16 | drwahl | ah, ok, i didnt know ssh was also for single commands... good to know |
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| 08:29.27 | no3sc | When I ssh with putty or simlar. Can I forward a session that's already active? Like if 'm logged in on tty1 on foo@bar.org. Can I from another computer open the same tty and continue the same thing remotly? |
| 08:29.40 | no3sc | Don't know if it's clear what I mean but I hope it is =) |
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| 08:31.36 | drwahl | what package is required to get packages via svn? for example, i am trying to install fuppes, and to check out the svn, they suggest running the command "svn co http://fuppes-svn.ulrich-voelkel.de/trunk fuppes" |
| 08:32.23 | liable | subversion |
| 08:32.29 | mne | hi guys. web-specific packages always install their own apache-config files in /etc/apache2/conf.d. I always deleted them, but after upgrading, they get linked to /etc/apache2/conf.d again. how do i avoid this behaviour ? it really sucks ... |
| 08:32.39 | drwahl | liable: thanks again :) |
| 08:33.13 | yang | how are these 2 modules being called in the new 2.6.22 kernels : |
| 08:33.16 | yang | ioc0: 53C1030: Capabilities={Initiator} |
| 08:33.16 | yang | scsi0 : ioc0: LSI53C1030, FwRev=00000000h, Ports=1, MaxQ=128, IRQ=169 |
| 08:33.23 | xtor | I have an i820 video card and I found that I could not boot X with the i820 driver but when I changed it to "vesa" I could get in X just fine. Now, am I missing out on some dazzle here since vesa sounds so generic... |
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| 08:37.44 | speedy | sep, i just found out about gluster, any idea about this project? it looks promising |
| 08:37.57 | sep | nothing |
| 08:38.29 | speedy | http://www.gluster.org/docs/index.php/GlusterFS_FAQ |
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| 08:42.55 | sep | speedy, looks nice |
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| 08:44.08 | infinity0 | how do i see a list of users logged onto the computer? |
| 08:44.26 | epsilon | finger, who |
| 08:44.40 | aspWork | hi guys, i just installed compiz from the rep under lenny, but i dont get any window decorations (i started it with compiz --replace), what am i missing? |
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| 08:45.51 | infinity0 | epsilon: ahh ok thanks, so what does this mean: |
| 08:45.53 | infinity0 | infinity0 :0 2007-10-22 08:49 |
| 08:45.53 | infinity0 | infinity0 pts/0 2007-10-22 08:49 (:0.0) |
| 08:46.13 | infinity0 | ie. why does it say i'm logged on twice? |
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| 08:46.53 | epsilon | every open terminal counts |
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| 08:47.30 | infinity0 | all my ttys are logged out, and i'm only using GNOME... |
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| 08:50.06 | dagbrown | Is it me or does Debian's xemacs not actually support UTF-8? |
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| 08:50.38 | tralala | infinity0, that's the X session + the gnome terminal |
| 08:50.54 | tralala | dagbrown, it must be you |
| 08:51.17 | dagbrown | If it's me, what did I forget to install to make it work? |
| 08:51.18 | infinity0 | oh right ok, thanks |
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| 08:52.45 | tralala | dagbrown, your default locale is not utf-8 maybe? |
| 08:53.04 | dagbrown | tralala: Ah, but it is. |
| 08:53.26 | dagbrown | My xemacs seems to support every encoding known to mankind, except for the Unicode ones. |
| 08:53.57 | dagbrown | So my current theory is that I forgot to install some vital component to make it understand utf-8. |
| 08:54.01 | speedy | sep, yeah thats what i'm looking for, solves the problem in all aspects |
| 08:54.49 | tralala | dagbrown, I'm not an emacs user but I can't imagine it not supporting utf-8 |
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| 08:55.30 | dagbrown | tralala: Neither can I! My Lunar Linux box's xemacs supports UTF-8 without any fuss |
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| 08:57.55 | tralala | dagbrown, are you really sure that xemacs isn't started with a non-utf8 locale? |
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| 08:58.39 | Enigma | liable: dmidecode isnt installed on this computer :( and as its a quite old machine - I wont touch it. Is there another way to display the memory modules? |
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| 08:59.05 | liable | Enigma: not that i know of |
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| 09:03.52 | aspWork | i cant seem to find emerald in the lenny repo, dont i need it to get compiz to run? |
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| 09:05.18 | MikeSeth_ | dagbrown: you should ask in #emacs |
| 09:06.15 | cydork | aspWork: no you don't.. |
| 09:06.38 | aspWork | cydork, ok, so under lenny using the offical repro is the best way? |
| 09:06.55 | aspWork | since when i start compiz i loose the window borders and nothing of value happens :) |
| 09:07.05 | cydork | aspWork: hmm any errors? |
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| 09:09.05 | joseph | Hey does anyone else know about a problem with amd64 running on a P965 chipset (Asus P5B motherboard)? I tried to install it and after rebooting it locked up at the agpgart line. |
| 09:09.11 | aspWork | cydork: not that i can see, let me double check |
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| 09:10.43 | liable | aspWork: does your card support aiglx? |
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| 09:10.55 | aspWork | liable, yes, its a nvidia 8600 |
| 09:10.57 | aspWork | Warn: SmcOpenConnection failed: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| 09:11.02 | aspWork | thats the error i get |
| 09:11.23 | azeem | weird |
| 09:13.01 | cydork | aspWork: hmm try this http://bgoglin.livejournal.com/11253.html |
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| 09:13.28 | joseph | I found this one google, but I'm not sure if that is the reason for the lock-up: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-466851.html |
| 09:13.59 | joseph | maybe intel_agp on amd64 has a problem with the P965 chipset? |
| 09:14.02 | DustyBin | how do you duplicate a audio CD ? could i can create a .iso with: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=audiocd.iso then burn the .iso ? |
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| 09:15.59 | aspWork | cydork, that solved it, thnx |
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| 09:16.27 | sep | DustyBin, i imagined iso was the data format for cd's so i dont think that would create a identical copy, you may try man readom and man wodim, i think there is an example |
| 09:16.40 | Trewas | DustyBin: no, dd can't read audio-cds and .iso can't hold audio data as there is no filesystem, use cdrdao for example |
| 09:17.17 | aspWork | strange though, with compiz loaded i have another window decoration then i normaly do in gnome, is this controlled somewhere else? |
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| 09:20.18 | xlotlu | aspWork: yeah, compiz doesn't do decorations... it probably ran emerald (its decorator) by itself. you can do gtk-windows-decorator --replace (i think) |
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| 09:22.11 | aspWork | xlotlu, ok, thnx, i dont think i have emeralds installed |
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| 09:22.40 | Topooceannes | Ugh. Anyone know why the Nvidia legacy driver would cause me to have to reinstall it every time I reboot my computer? |
| 09:23.07 | aspWork | in beryl there was a nice settings interface, is there something like that in compiz? ie, an easy way to try different plugins and configure them? |
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| 09:24.43 | xlotlu | aspWork: yeah, ccsm.. and ask in #compiz-fusion |
| 09:24.44 | DawnLight | how do i disable password authentication in sshd? i want to allow keys only |
| 09:25.05 | aspWork | xlotlu, thnx, so its not in the repro then? |
| 09:25.09 | DawnLight | is it called PAM? |
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| 09:25.38 | xlotlu | DawnLight: PasswordAuthentication no in sshd_config |
| 09:25.48 | DawnLight | xlotlu: thanks! |
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| 09:26.58 | xlotlu | hmm, any way to find out what package i upgraded in the last 24 hours? :) |
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| 09:27.38 | DawnLight | xlotlu: why not, check the times on the files in the package cache |
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| 09:28.31 | ciol | Hi, I'm downloading Debian Etch CD1 in order to boot using hard drive and Grub, as explain in the install guide, but how it will be able to know where is the CD? |
| 09:28.32 | cydork | xorllu: aptitude/dpkg logs. |
| 09:28.56 | Trewas | xlotlu: I have logs in /var/log/dpkg.log, dunno if they are there by default or have I enabled them myself |
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| 09:29.21 | xlotlu | cydork, Trewas: thanks, forgot about that |
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| 09:31.17 | xlotlu | wondering what might cause mostly everything to segfault and if i should go about restarting X or downgrade.. |
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| 09:32.46 | joseph | If I want testing, should I install from stable and then dist-upgrade? Or should I install straight from the testing net-install CD? |
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| 09:34.00 | DawnLight | joseph: straght |
| 09:34.01 | ciol | testin net-install, if available |
| 09:34.04 | ciol | :x |
| 09:34.18 | ciol | why? He will have more to upgrade |
| 09:34.29 | DawnLight | !kill fleas |
| 09:34.39 | moshii | this is if testing is in an installable state.. which it should be |
| 09:34.48 | moshii | but you never know ;) |
| 09:35.09 | DawnLight | installable state? hmm... |
| 09:35.31 | DawnLight | the state of installableible |
| 09:35.38 | moshii | DawnLight: I.e. packages that you'll need to complete the install/initial boots aren't broken |
| 09:35.40 | ciol | lol |
| 09:35.58 | DawnLight | !lol |
| 09:35.58 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 09:36.10 | DawnLight | i didn't know that |
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| 09:36.28 | DawnLight | i just wanter you to laugh, you rabbid bot! |
| 09:36.32 | ciol | mdr |
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| 09:36.45 | DawnLight | !mdr |
| 09:36.56 | ciol | mdr is french |
| 09:36.58 | joseph | So there seems to be a debate....no consensus? |
| 09:37.20 | DawnLight | CONsensus is you try |
| 09:37.43 | DawnLight | testing around here is more stable then some other popular distros |
| 09:38.01 | DawnLight | !testing |
| 09:38.01 | dpkg | i guess testing is a release/suite between <stable> and <unstable>. testing currently points to <lenny>. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. Ask me about <etch->lenny> |
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| 09:38.56 | moshii | DawnLight: Stable in what way? |
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| 09:39.31 | DawnLight | the non-buggy one |
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| 09:40.23 | moshii | Well, unless the debian devs are patching all the bugs in the upstream releases, everyone is in the same boat |
| 09:41.33 | moshii | Things break less because things are generally worked over more before they get into Debian. For example, the switch over to x.org wasn't overnight like some others. |
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| 09:42.22 | joseph | Ok I'll try to install amd64 net-install from the testing branch |
| 09:42.44 | ciol | good choice |
| 09:42.57 | DawnLight | i don't know why i'm still using stable for my desktop box. i like excitement, thrill and ecstasy, although the third is a bit off-topic |
| 09:43.52 | ciol | i don't why I'm still using testing for my desktop box. i like when things are stable, but not everything |
| 09:44.11 | ciol | So I try to make my own distro based on debian stable =) |
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| 09:45.41 | DawnLight | !tarded |
| 09:45.47 | DawnLight | !tardix |
| 09:45.48 | dpkg | i heard tardix is a distribution based on debian, but where everything is statically compiled. No more pesky dependencies! No more annoying dynamic linkage problems! Oh, and there's only one user. it's not root, and it's not administrator, it's ... tard! |
| 09:46.24 | ciol | berk |
| 09:47.39 | joseph | So is the 21OCT2007 testing installer suitable enough? |
| 09:48.01 | moshii | joseph: dunno, try it |
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| 09:48.14 | DawnLight | just try the latest testing and get here to tell us |
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| 09:53.29 | DawnLight | dpkg: install trivia |
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| 09:55.39 | DawnLight | dpkg: -i snes |
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| 09:55.53 | DawnLight | hey! |
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| 09:56.53 | DawnLight | dpkg: hail the monkey who wrote ya |
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| 09:58.02 | pngwn | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.05 | Ovi | hi |
| 09:58.15 | joseph | are there faster mirrors for downloading amd64 testing netinstall? |
| 09:58.30 | joseph | or the live amd64 CD? |
| 09:58.36 | joseph | I'm getting an 18KB/Sec rate |
| 09:58.38 | Ovi | can anyonme tell me how to change the resolution to 1024 * 768 ? |
| 09:59.00 | Ovi | I'm runnin' Lenny and I'm using 1280*1024 |
| 09:59.16 | DawnLight | Ovi: man xorg.conf |
| 09:59.35 | DawnLight | joseph: try torrent |
| 09:59.49 | GhostlyDeath | Torrenting needs upload |
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| 10:00.03 | petemc | !drxx Ovi |
| 10:00.03 | dpkg | Ovi: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 10:01.02 | joseph | Oh well, I'll just wait 14 hours :/ |
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| 10:01.31 | Trewas | joseph: cdimage.debian.org is usually very fast, at least from here |
| 10:01.53 | joseph | Trewas: I'm in korea |
| 10:02.37 | DawnLight | joseph: no mirror in korea? |
| 10:02.45 | Trewas | yeah that might explain it, I think c.d.o is in sweden nowadays |
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| 10:02.57 | joseph | DawnLight: I don't even see an area for mirrors on the web page |
| 10:03.05 | DawnLight | !mirrors |
| 10:03.05 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-setup> or <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 10:03.35 | Ovi | about dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 , it says not installed |
| 10:04.01 | DawnLight | Ovi: xorg, not xfree86 |
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| 10:04.43 | Ovi | I tryed what dpkg sayd |
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| 10:05.17 | Ovi | and I got all the reolutions in xorg.conf but how do I change the default one? |
| 10:05.45 | DawnLight | Ovi: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should help you with that |
| 10:07.45 | joseph | DawnLight: So where is the net-install image http://ftp2.jp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ |
| 10:08.13 | joseph | DawnLight: I can't find a testing amd64 net-install image on any of the closest worldwide mirror sites. |
| 10:09.46 | Ovi | DawnLight : I did that , do I need to reboot ? |
| 10:10.00 | DawnLight | !reboot Ovi |
| 10:10.07 | DawnLight | !restart x |
| 10:10.07 | dpkg | Don't reboot. Just restart X. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace if you are logged in. '/etc/init.d/?dm restart' if not, as root. (where ?dm can be xdm, kdm, gdm, wdm, other display manager) |
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| 10:12.59 | Ovi | thanks for help now it works :) |
| 10:13.36 | DawnLight | Ovi: welcome, come again! |
| 10:13.41 | _Carlo_ | hi, anyone knows how to get rid of the 16 group limitation of nfs or maybe knows somethings better than nfs? |
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| 10:13.46 | Ovi | but what I don't understand is why gnome-display-properties didn't show the other pos res |
| 10:13.54 | SlayerXP | hands up if you're using etch and have successfully installed and used the grsecurity2 package |
| 10:14.26 | DawnLight | !info grsecurity2 |
| 10:14.27 | SlayerXP | specifically you will have overcome the "No patch for 2.6.18" problem |
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| 10:14.48 | kantor | why are some mime types missing from newer gnome releases ? I mean in gnome 2.14 for instance the c, c++ source files had a specific mime icon, but in gnome 2.18, 2.20 this is not available |
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| 10:21.46 | pzn | can you recommend a good jabber client for etch? no need of complex things, just an X window and message send/receive |
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| 10:22.10 | DawnLight | pzn: kopete for kde |
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| 10:22.25 | DawnLight | i think |
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| 10:22.34 | DawnLight | don't have jabber |
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| 10:22.52 | pzn | DawnLight, a simpler one... the clients are thin clients... they have a simple X, i think fvwm... :-) |
| 10:23.10 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - does anybody know of an accurate way of tracking bandwidth usage, by port (outgoing only) on debian ? |
| 10:23.14 | DawnLight | well, you can search in aptitude |
| 10:23.38 | Super_Cat_Frog | i need something thats persistant between reboots, and allows me to access the data |
| 10:23.43 | DawnLight | pzn: in aptitude, press / and type in ~djabber |
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| 10:24.36 | pzn | DawnLight, ok, found! |
| 10:26.40 | DawnLight | pzn: gajim? |
| 10:27.28 | DawnLight | quite a few, there are |
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| 10:28.52 | pzn | DawnLight, I installed cabber (this is console only), I'll test the jabber server, then I switch to an X app. |
| 10:31.30 | Azrael_- | Super_Cat_Frog: i'd use mono with a custom filter |
| 10:32.03 | Azrael_- | but filtering through ports is imo only possible with splitting the traffic up into chains by iptables |
| 10:32.31 | tralala | Super_Cat_Frog, darkstat. Not exactly what you need but might be close enough |
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| 10:34.35 | empiric | hey i want to implement |
| 10:34.36 | empiric | Password should be changes at 1st Logon (I know you guys had done testing |
| 10:34.37 | empiric | on Gnome Frontend but be need it for KDE) |
| 10:34.37 | empiric | 2. Password Expiry after 90 Days |
| 10:34.37 | empiric | 3. Password History for last 10 password |
| 10:34.37 | empiric | 4. Minimum 8 Character Password |
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| 10:35.16 | Insolit | guys any clue why suddenly my laptop after being turned off, after showing the message "Loading grub..." shows a black screen and no more? |
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| 10:39.01 | n00bular | perhaps the kernel is configured to enable a framebuffer module which it loads and then enables a mode unsupported properly. |
| 10:39.15 | n00bular | displaying a blank screen |
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| 10:42.02 | Buffer | hi, anyone using the newest amavis with debian etch? |
| 10:42.40 | Buffer | I'm having hard time trying to get the configs right because I CANT FIND 'em, and amavis support is deaf |
| 10:46.22 | Buffer | no one? |
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| 10:47.26 | zarara | help, i'm looking for a way to convert an XML file to PDF using my shell or via php, who can help me? |
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| 10:51.10 | shayan | Hello, Can any one help me how to print using a network printer ? |
| 10:52.36 | petemc | !cups setup |
| 10:52.36 | dpkg | it has been said that cups setup is install cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd and foomatic-db packages. Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy!, or you can try printconf |
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| 10:55.01 | tingle | hi, i installed a minimal debian yesterdat but today when in tried to install hotkeys for it i got this message and i found out my sound doesnt work LOL could someone help me setting my sound up? |
| 10:55.05 | tingle | box:/home/tingle# hotkeys -t hp5181 |
| 10:55.08 | tingle | box:/home/tingle# hotkeys: Unable to open `/dev/mixer': No such file or directory |
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| 10:57.24 | roderyk | oh sweet, I'm saved! irc works.... |
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| 10:57.39 | roderyk | hey, can someon give me an IP of a working dns server? :) |
| 10:57.47 | tingle | ยดยณ/window 3 |
| 10:57.51 | tingle | oops |
| 10:58.07 | Coweater | 4.2.2.2 |
| 10:58.11 | cydork | roderyk: 4.2.2.1 |
| 10:58.15 | mahone | Good morning everybody. Could someone please point me to a backup software like Acronis TrueImage, but for Ubuntu? |
| 10:58.17 | cydork | Coweater: damn you! |
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| 10:58.45 | cydork | mahone: ask #ubuntu? |
| 10:59.03 | roderyk | cydork, coweater: should I be able to ping those servers? |
| 10:59.10 | mahone | cydork, sorry, I've chosen the wrong channel... |
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| 10:59.27 | cydork | roderyk: those are dns servers which you can use.. |
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| 11:00.02 | roderyk | cydork: I'm having some wierd net issues here. I can access some servers, but not others. I thought it was a dns issue, but now I'm not so sure :/ |
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| 11:00.08 | cydork | roderyk: just try something like dig @4.2.2.1 google.com |
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| 11:01.39 | xand | how rude |
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| 11:03.47 | roderyk | cydork: hmm, it's not just the dns server apparently. dig @4.2.2.1/2 is unreachable. and using the default dns server I was assigned on this net, I can eg. reach debian.org but not google |
| 11:03.49 | roderyk | wtf? |
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| 11:04.23 | petemc | roderyk: you're not in china, are you? |
| 11:04.50 | roderyk | petemc: haha, no. Poland |
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| 11:05.10 | cydork | roderyk: blame your sysadmin? :) |
| 11:05.17 | catalino | hello, has anyone used dvd-slideshow 0.8.0? i need to change default audio enc from ac3 to mpeg2, i add .dvd-slideshowrc but the program doesn't read it. has anyone been through this? |
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| 11:05.54 | roderyk | cydork: no kidding. I'm currently sitting on a school dorm network. bloody useless network.... |
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| 11:07.18 | roderyk | now I know how the Chinese feel. How can I talk on irc but not have access to google?! *brain explodes* |
| 11:08.35 | xand | google had routing issues last week |
| 11:08.48 | cydork | roderyk: they might have blocked 53 outside. try if you can use these 208.67.222.222/208.67.220.220 |
| 11:09.22 | liable | roderyk: put googles ip in your hosts file |
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| 11:09.41 | roderyk | liable: which is? |
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| 11:10.11 | liable | roderyk: google.pl 66.249.93.104 |
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| 11:10.57 | liable | temporary workaround, but at least make it somewhat usable |
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| 11:11.25 | roderyk | liable: if it was just dns, I should still be able to ping the ip, though... I cannot ping or access it via http |
| 11:11.44 | liable | roderyk: oh, i thought you were just having dns dramas |
| 11:12.22 | roderyk | liable: that's what I originally suspected :/ |
| 11:12.29 | roderyk | cydork: thanks, but still no dice |
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| 11:13.01 | liable | roderyk: is it just port 80 ? |
| 11:13.12 | liable | can you use mail? |
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| 11:14.58 | roderyk | liable: it's definitely not all of :80 |
| 11:15.02 | petemc | you can use tcptraceroute to check ports along hops |
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| 11:15.12 | roderyk | no, it looks like a ban/filter on the IP level |
| 11:15.35 | liable | roderyk: yeah, nothing much you can do then. stupid admin.. |
| 11:16.04 | liable | roderyk: you couldnt even ping that google ip? |
| 11:16.38 | xand | probably a routing issue. |
| 11:16.54 | xand | try a traceroute |
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| 11:17.25 | liable | did they rename traceroute recently? |
| 11:17.34 | xand | eh? |
| 11:17.40 | roderyk | liable: correct; even ping fails |
| 11:18.01 | xand | liable: ew, a symlink from tracert! |
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| 11:18.19 | liable | xand: i installed dnsutils and i dont have a traceroute, i have a tcptraceroute and a traceroute6 and others |
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| 11:19.03 | liable | i cant remember the last time i used it, but i was sure it was traceroute then |
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| 11:19.32 | xand | odd... I have a traceroute but dpkg -S doesn't find it... that's a bit retarded IMO |
| 11:19.38 | xand | it's a pretty standard command |
| 11:19.54 | petemc | it is in its own package |
| 11:20.02 | liable | if dpkg doesnt find, i guess it makes the link at install time |
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| 11:20.24 | liable | petemc: hrm, is it? i thought it used to be in dnsutils? |
| 11:20.33 | petemc | seemingly not |
| 11:21.00 | dimir | EVERYBODY TURN YOUR CAPSLOCKS ON! HTTP://WWW.DEREKARNOLD.NET/capslockday/ |
| 11:21.12 | roderyk | so by tcptraceroute hops, it looks like all connections go through a certain router... some connections (like google) die and some manage to keep going |
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| 11:21.42 | abrotman | dimir: did you tell your boss yet? |
| 11:21.58 | roderyk | and yes... apparently derekarnold.net is important enough to keep going, but google is not >< |
| 11:22.04 | Nihill | omg |
| 11:22.17 | dimir | Hehe |
| 11:23.12 | Nihill | thats the worst site ever |
| 11:23.32 | roderyk | I don't have much network experience, but sounds like the router is just doing some mad IP/block banning, eh? |
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| 11:25.37 | ouba | hello |
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| 11:27.19 | ouba | I would like to configure a postfix + ldap + tls, I have an approximately working configuratin. Indeed, the LDAP is setup and working (with pam, samba, etc), psotfix is configured, postmap -q is working also, but when I try a telnet localhost 25 to test => postfix/smtpd is unable to connect the the LDAP (TLS negotitation failure) |
| 11:27.41 | ouba | Does someone has a similar configuration and so help me a little bit ? :) |
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| 11:29.37 | roderyk | alright, thanks for all your help. I'm going to go now and try to find some admin to bully |
| 11:30.23 | liable | heh, cue bofh conversation ;) |
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| 11:31.12 | Maliuta | ouba: a) write your own ldap schema for postfix |
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| 11:31.40 | abrotman | huh? |
| 11:31.42 | Maliuta | ouba: b) you didn't specify if the tls was for postfix or slapd or both |
| 11:31.54 | abrotman | ouba: is it self signed? |
| 11:32.38 | ouba | abrotman, yes and no |
| 11:32.48 | abrotman | i only asked one question! |
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| 11:33.04 | ouba | in fact it is an home made certificate but with a selft made CA root certificate |
| 11:33.20 | ouba | Maliuta, it is slapd with tls and v3 protocol |
| 11:33.28 | ouba | and postfix try to connect with tls enable |
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| 11:33.50 | ouba | what is very strange is postmap is working well while smtp die ... |
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| 11:34.08 | abrotman | wait .. i think i saw this |
| 11:34.23 | jelly-home | !why is libnet-ssh-perl-perl not in testing |
| 11:34.23 | dpkg | libnet-ssh-perl-perl is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libnet-ssh-perl-perl |
| 11:34.25 | abrotman | wtf was i working on ... |
| 11:34.38 | abrotman | bah .. i'm just crazy |
| 11:35.14 | abrotman | it was something that couldn't cope with ldap being v3 by default |
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| 11:35.30 | ouba | abrotman, it seems postmap is compiled against libssl and postfix against gnutls (it is the only think approching I managed to find in google :( ) |
| 11:35.41 | ouba | abrotman, yes, but I do v3 |
| 11:35.58 | ouba | postfix is configured to do v3, and ldap is configured to accept only v3+tls |
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| 11:36.22 | abrotman | maybe you need a noverifycert kind of thing ? |
| 11:36.49 | ouba | but, it works for postmap |
| 11:37.07 | ouba | and it also is working with the same conf on a gentoo server (I know it is not a reason, but ... :)) |
| 11:37.34 | ouba | it seems smtp is not able to verify the certificate presneted by openldap |
| 11:37.34 | abrotman | yeah .. not a valid comparison at all |
| 11:37.55 | abrotman | right .. so you'd need some sort of method to tell it not to attempt to verify the cert |
| 11:37.59 | abrotman | (just a guess) |
| 11:38.25 | ouba | can I paste some results somewhere ? |
| 11:38.29 | abrotman | !paste |
| 11:38.29 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 11:40.28 | abrotman | hrm .. also .. postfix runs in a chroot .. dunno if that would complicate your problem |
| 11:40.42 | ouba | http://paste.debian.net/40371 |
| 11:41.06 | ouba | abrotman, I don't think it is running in a chroot, because in master.cf, there is no 'y' on chroot column |
| 11:41.21 | ouba | or Debian is running postfix in a chroot by default ? |
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| 11:42.14 | abrotman | it runs in the chroot by default |
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| 11:43.40 | abrotman | ouba: line 100: Oct 22 13:39:10 smtp slapd[12588]: connection_read(12): TLS accept failure error=-1 id=30, closing |
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| 11:43.50 | ouba | abrotman, arf, it could explain the problem, postmap is not in the chroot so it can access to the root certificate |
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| 11:44.07 | ouba | abrotman, and postfix which is in a chroot cannont access /etc/ssl/certs .... |
| 11:44.18 | abrotman | ah .. that could very well do it |
| 11:44.19 | ouba | where is the chroot of postfix ? |
| 11:44.33 | abrotman | /var/lib/postfix/ i think |
| 11:44.44 | SlayerXP | chroot? how very 80s. |
| 11:44.49 | mne | is there a way to secure/chroot apache2 name based virtual hosts ? If there is no way to chroot the virtual hosts, an attacker would have the permissions of the web-server (www-data) and could read/write/delete all other virtual hosts |
| 11:44.57 | abrotman | nope .. not /var/lib/ |
| 11:45.09 | abrotman | /var/spool/ |
| 11:45.45 | ouba | /var/spool/postfix |
| 11:45.54 | ouba | indeed the content of queue_directory |
| 11:45.58 | ouba | (cd init.d script) |
| 11:46.13 | ouba | ok ... I will give a try !!! |
| 11:46.45 | ouba | abrotman, thanks a lot !!! (even it will not work :) ) |
| 11:47.07 | SlayerXP | mne: if an attacker got in to your server, the correct response is to completely wipe the disk, reinstall, and then restore user data from truested backups. |
| 11:47.52 | Shadur | mne: You don't give www-data write permission to the virtualhost directories in the first place. |
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| 11:48.24 | mne | SlayerXP, the question was hypothetical. i would like to isolate each virtual host |
| 11:48.33 | abrotman | ouba: does that make sense for you? |
| 11:48.59 | mne | Shadur, that's not enough. the attacker could still read files from other virtual hosts |
| 11:49.07 | abrotman | VMs! |
| 11:49.35 | ouba | abrotman, the explication seems logical ! i will try ... If it doesn't work, I will come back ! (hiiiiiii) |
| 11:49.46 | liable | and he could do that by visiting the websites too! |
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| 11:50.37 | eth01 | just had to reinstall etch onto a box of mine. it kept 'hanging' on Begin: Waiting for root file system... ... - any ideas as to why that happened? |
| 11:50.40 | mne | and having a VM or a seperate chrooted apache2 instance for each virtual host isn't a solution either |
| 11:51.51 | abrotman | ouba: okay .. |
| 11:52.15 | mne | is there something like solaris zones on linux/debian ? |
| 11:52.39 | ouba | abrotman, ok, I disable chroot => it's work |
| 11:52.51 | ouba | now, I will try to make this working with the chroot |
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| 11:54.24 | nooblar100 | I installed compiz-fusion. |
| 11:54.26 | nooblar100 | yea |
| 11:54.35 | abrotman | noooooooo! |
| 11:54.48 | nooblar100 | but it doesn't work. just a borderless windows and nothing's interactive. |
| 11:55.09 | ma3x | how can i pipe from /dev/raw1394 to file.raw? |
| 11:55.16 | ma3x | i did mkfifo file.raw now what? |
| 11:55.43 | PerfDave | ma3x: Why did you do that? |
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| 11:55.56 | ma3x | PerfDave, because i need to create fifo file |
| 11:56.10 | PerfDave | ma3x: To pipe output from a device? |
| 11:56.14 | abrotman | heh |
| 11:56.17 | ma3x | PerfDave, yes |
| 11:56.26 | jkitchen | ma3x: why can't you just read directly from the device? |
| 11:56.35 | PerfDave | ma3x: What's wrong with "cat /dev/raw1394 > file.raw"? |
| 11:56.41 | ma3x | jkitchen, mplayer doesnt support that |
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| 11:57.19 | ma3x | PerfDave, cat: /dev/raw1394: Invalid argument |
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| 11:57.37 | tingle | hi, is possible to run bittorent gui-less whit debian? |
| 11:57.45 | jkitchen | tingle: rtorrent |
| 11:58.40 | \amethyst | tingle: or btdownload{curses,headless} from bittorrent or bittornado |
| 11:58.51 | aspWork | how would i change the root terminal to use the gnome-terminal instead of the x-terminal-emulator? |
| 11:59.14 | tingle | jkitchen: yeah ive used rtorrent for years now and just started wondering why i dont use bittorrent XD |
| 11:59.28 | jkitchen | tingle: I don't understand. |
| 11:59.32 | ma3x | PerfDave still there? |
| 11:59.34 | jkitchen | rtorrent is a bittorrent client. |
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| 11:59.49 | eth01 | whats the latest version of apache on etch? |
| 11:59.55 | tingle | \amethyst: but how can you set things like upload limit when you got no gui is that possible in bittoret just as rtorrent? |
| 11:59.56 | eth01 | thus, _needing_ the latest version. |
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| 12:00.44 | \amethyst | tingle: --max_uploads and --max_upload_rate ? |
| 12:01.32 | tingle | \amethyst: okay thanks! |
| 12:02.22 | abrotman | eth01: apt-cache show or packages.debian.org .. and why do you need the *latest* ? |
| 12:03.08 | tingle | \amethyst: i start it whit btdownload {curses,headless} right? |
| 12:04.01 | \amethyst | tingle: those are two different programs |
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| 12:04.29 | \amethyst | tingle: btdownloadcurses URL or btdownloadheadless URL |
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| 12:05.11 | \amethyst | tingle: the curses version uses a text "GUI", the headless version is plain text |
| 12:05.36 | salvin | URL? |
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| 12:06.09 | liable | url for what? |
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| 12:06.37 | mooper | hi, does anyone know a good app for creating an xml document? |
| 12:07.03 | jkitchen | vim |
| 12:07.06 | mooper | I am xml noob |
| 12:07.14 | Shadur | mooper: There's a few specific ones, I think, but vim works fine. |
| 12:07.46 | jkitchen | or emacs if you're some crazed lunatic |
| 12:07.47 | jkitchen | ;) |
| 12:07.52 | mooper | okay, I have a very simple xml doc needs creating. name and company for some name cards I must create. |
| 12:07.58 | mooper | how should it be formatted? |
| 12:08.11 | \amethyst | mooper: do you know XML? |
| 12:08.20 | jkitchen | mooper: however whatever is to read it expects it to be formatted |
| 12:08.24 | Shadur | mooper: If you don't know XML at all, why are you even trying to do this? |
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| 12:08.43 | mooper | \amethyst: no, thats why I want a application to do it for me :) |
| 12:08.57 | mooper | Shadur: what!!!! |
| 12:09.31 | \amethyst | mooper: is there a schema you're supposed to be adhering to, or are you supposed to be designing the schema? |
| 12:09.32 | Shadur | mooper: Just what are you trying to do and how does XML enter into the equation? |
| 12:09.47 | \amethyst | First, figure out why http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/XML-Upgrade.aspx is funny |
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| 12:10.07 | Shadur | mooper: Your question is making no sense and I'm trying to make sense of it. |
| 12:10.08 | mooper | I want to create a data set for adobe illustrator. I have to create the schema |
| 12:10.09 | jkitchen | \amethyst: because it's written in ASP.NET? :) |
| 12:10.40 | Shadur | mooper: That's massively nontrivial. I suggest spending a hell of a time reading documentation before you even try. |
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| 12:11.43 | jkitchen | \amethyst: the article, however, is definitely funny ;) |
| 12:12.00 | Shadur | Failing that, if you just /have/ to have a shortcut, find an existing data set and study it until you figure out how to modify it. |
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| 12:12.30 | mooper | sensibly, how should I organise an xml document that only contains a name and a company |
| 12:12.36 | Shadur | Then when it blows up in your face, look up the error messages in the documentation and learn from them what you did wrong. |
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| 12:12.44 | tingle | \amethyst: how do i portforward when use btdownload like this? XD |
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| 12:13.02 | jkitchen | <company><name>companyname</name><contact>contactname</contact></company> |
| 12:13.06 | jkitchen | blammo. |
| 12:13.35 | \amethyst | tingle: portforward? |
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| 12:14.22 | tingle | yeah link the client to the ports you opent for it so you can connect to more users |
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| 12:14.39 | jkitchen | tingle: I don't understand why you want to take 10 steps back from the awesomeness that is rtorrent and go back to using the craptactular bittorrent client |
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| 12:15.12 | jkitchen | that's like using vim for 20 years and going back to nano. |
| 12:15.21 | jkitchen | or notepad. |
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| 12:17.23 | runev | is there anyway to get the gnome wm throught apt, without getting the 300+ packages extra? |
| 12:17.37 | tingle | jkitchen: rtorrent is alost bigger then bittorrent |
| 12:18.03 | jkitchen | tingle: i would hope so, it's far more featureful an application |
| 12:18.15 | PerfDave | !install gnome |
| 12:18.15 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 12:18.17 | mooper | jkitchen: ta, your a dude |
| 12:18.20 | \amethyst | runev: just the window manager? install metacity |
| 12:18.23 | jkitchen | however they both speak the same protocol, bittorrent. |
| 12:18.31 | stew | runev: aptitude install metacity |
| 12:18.44 | PerfDave | rtorrent might be bigger in filesize than the Python CLI clients, but it's much leaner in memory usage. |
| 12:18.48 | \amethyst | runev: gnome-core might be what you're looking for |
| 12:19.07 | stew | runev: that is the window manager that gets installed with gnome by default. there isn't really a "gnome window manager" though |
| 12:19.41 | Arafangion | stew: In a sense there is, and I _think_ it is metacity. |
| 12:19.53 | runev | ah, then that's what i'm looking for - metacity |
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| 12:20.31 | \amethyst | yeah, apparently sawfish had too many features |
| 12:21.06 | xushi_ | i need help.. this cron is supposed to execute every day at 13:30 but only on Sunday - Thursday. For 2 days now i see no results so i think it's not working.. does it look right to you? 30 13 * * 0-4 sh /home/xushi/execute.sh |
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| 12:21.55 | \amethyst | xushi_: is that in a user crontab or the system crontab? |
| 12:22.01 | xushi_ | user crontab |
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| 12:22.10 | stew | its a gnome window manager in that it is often bundled with gnome, but it doesn't build against libgnome or anything |
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| 12:22.47 | \amethyst | stew: it does link against gconf, though |
| 12:23.57 | \amethyst | xushi_: it looks okay then... you haven't received any emails from cron? |
| 12:25.02 | xushi_ | no, i received no emails, which made me think it might have worked, but oddly enough i get no results in my database |
| 12:25.31 | \amethyst | xushi_: add something like echo "I'm running" to the top of execute.sh |
| 12:25.34 | \amethyst | then you'll know |
| 12:25.41 | PerfDave | xushi_: If execute.sh produces no output, you will get no e-mail. |
| 12:25.55 | xushi_ | good idea, i'll do so now and change the 30 13 to */1 * to see if it works |
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| 12:27.42 | runev | so, i've got gnome-core and xorg, but "startx" loads up with no wm, where can i fix this? cba to read docs using lynx/links in console :) |
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| 12:29.02 | \amethyst | runev: startx /etc/X11/Xsession gnome-session |
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| 12:29.49 | runev | \amethyst: thx :) |
| 12:30.02 | \amethyst | or run gnome-session from your .xsession. man Xsession for suggestions |
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| 12:31.57 | xushi_ | the cron seems to work, now to start debugging |
| 12:31.58 | jan__ | which hard drive modules must I add to /etc/initramfs/modules to be able to boot up the 2.6.22-2 kernel ? |
| 12:32.04 | jan__ | http://openpaste.org/en/3563/ |
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| 12:33.37 | xushi_ | i think i found the problem |
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| 12:34.43 | xushi_ | in my .sh script, i have /usr/bin/php foo.php instead of the full path to foo.php |
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| 12:35.41 | Maliuta | is foo.php in the scripts working directory at that point? |
| 12:35.43 | xushi_ | thanks for the help \amethyst |
| 12:35.53 | xushi_ | Maliuta: actually it is |
| 12:36.00 | xushi_ | but for some reason i always have to give full paths |
| 12:36.04 | Maliuta | then it shouldn't be a problem |
| 12:36.18 | Maliuta | something is changing the wd then |
| 12:36.31 | Maliuta | and php-cli in a cron is bad .... m'kay |
| 12:36.46 | Maliuta | if you were a dev on my team I'd slap you silly for that |
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| 12:38.00 | PerfDave | php-cli is bad. Hell, php is bad :) |
| 12:38.11 | Maliuta | well duh! |
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| 12:38.49 | Maliuta | I had to stop code with exec("kill $var"); in it from going into production |
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| 12:39.20 | Maliuta | PerfDave: I have seen worse, one that needed to be called once a minute with wget |
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| 12:43.10 | Danielss89 | hi, can i give my apache user access to create folders in /home/vmail , so that my php script can create folders there? |
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| 12:44.43 | \amethyst | Danielss89: do you want the apache user to be able to delete files/directories there? |
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| 12:45.02 | Danielss89 | yes \amethyst |
| 12:45.10 | Danielss89 | but only in that dir |
| 12:45.24 | \amethyst | Danielss89: then you can just chown the directory to www-data |
| 12:45.31 | PerfDave | Danielss89: chown, chgrp, chmod |
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| 12:45.57 | Danielss89 | :P |
| 12:46.01 | \amethyst | it would be better if that script ran as someone other than www-user, though, perhaps using suexec |
| 12:46.19 | \amethyst | otherwise, *all* your web applications will be able to write to that directory |
| 12:46.29 | Danielss89 | is that difficult to set up \amethyst? |
| 12:46.41 | ouba | an other interesting problem ! :) I use pam-ldap to have some users in an ldap directory, pam-ldap talks to openldap through a TLS encrypted connexion with protocol v3. |
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| 12:47.02 | isamar | hi folks |
| 12:47.16 | isamar | needing a hand with custom CD.. |
| 12:47.30 | ouba | Everything is working fine except if I install ca-certificates. As soon as I install this package, the authentification phase (through su or ssh) is dramatically long |
| 12:47.56 | isamar | I need to custom the ISO with a newer kernel.. |
| 12:47.56 | \amethyst | ouba: anything in the logs? |
| 12:48.05 | isamar | kernel is compiled and new deb package is created.. |
| 12:48.09 | ouba | If I delete all symlink in /etc/ssl/certs or desinstall ca-certicates (to keep only my root certificate), everything come back very fast |
| 12:48.12 | isamar | I put the files in the CD-ISO tree... |
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| 12:48.21 | isamar | but what is the next step ? |
| 12:48.26 | \amethyst | ouba: it takes a long time but eventually works? |
| 12:48.27 | isamar | any howto anywhere available? |
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| 12:48.38 | ouba | \amethyst, yes, it works but it is very slow |
| 12:48.56 | ouba | it takes a lot of time to walk trough ll the certificate in /etc/ssl/certs |
| 12:48.58 | isamar | apt-ftparchive is mandatory ? |
| 12:49.02 | stew | isamar: you are making a custom installer? |
| 12:49.15 | ouba | what is strange, it is work fast with for example ldap-search (linked against openssl) |
| 12:49.19 | isamar | stew: yes.. that's right |
| 12:49.24 | stew | isamar: /msg dpkg custom d-i |
| 12:49.25 | ouba | and it is very slow with pam_ldap (linked against gnutls) |
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| 12:49.44 | ouba | does someone expirement the same kind of slowness ? |
| 12:49.49 | isamar | stew: I am using ubuntu 6.10 |
| 12:49.51 | \amethyst | ouba: are you telling ldap which cert to use? |
| 12:50.02 | stew | isamar: you are in the wrong channel then |
| 12:50.08 | stew | isamar: try #ubuntu |
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| 12:50.11 | ouba | \amethyst, yes, I explicity put a CAFile and not a CAdir |
| 12:50.12 | isamar | ok.. thanx |
| 12:50.22 | niklas | is there any way to re-select packages that you want to install? I accidentally selected alot of packages I believe, and now I want to remove some, and perhaps add some. I'm talking about the part of the Debian installation where you can select groups of apps to install |
| 12:50.30 | ouba | so I don't even know why he tries to look at every certificate |
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| 12:50.37 | \amethyst | ouba: Using what syntax? |
| 12:50.42 | ouba | ie ? |
| 12:50.54 | tingle | hi, how do i get alt+1 alt+2 ect working again for window switching? i run xterm only i think i should something there but not sure where and what |
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| 12:51.29 | stew | tingle: it depends on your window manager |
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| 12:51.41 | ouba | For pam ldap : ssl start_tls / tls_checkpeer yes / tls_cacertfile /etc/ssl/certs/evidence.pem |
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| 12:51.59 | doc_ | hi |
| 12:52.04 | \amethyst | ouba: try tls_cacert rather than cacertfile |
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| 12:52.31 | ouba | oki ... |
| 12:52.33 | \amethyst | ouba: err |
| 12:52.34 | \amethyst | ouba: wait |
| 12:52.43 | \amethyst | ouba: that's the pam_ldap.conf... cacertfile is correct there |
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| 12:52.53 | \amethyst | ouba: what about the server's ldap.conf ? |
| 12:53.01 | ouba | TLS_CACERT /etc/ssl/certs/evidence.pem |
| 12:53.45 | eth01 | whats the latest version of apache on etch? |
| 12:54.08 | tingle | stew: evilwm a minimal one so i think i should eddit something i xterm's config file |
| 12:54.12 | tingle | or sth |
| 12:54.14 | \amethyst | ouba: anything in /var/log/auth.log about it? |
| 12:54.18 | ouba | no |
| 12:54.29 | ouba | It takes a long time to identify the problem |
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| 12:54.34 | ouba | I saw it with an strace |
| 12:54.43 | stew | eth01: http://packages.debian.org/apache2 |
| 12:54.47 | ouba | The problem is everything work well |
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| 12:54.54 | ouba | but very very very slowly ... |
| 12:55.20 | stew | tingle: oh wait, what do you mean by "window switching" then? |
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| 12:55.40 | tingle | stew: going from window one to another in irssi |
| 12:56.14 | stew | tingle: echo "XTerm*eightBitInput: false" >> ~/.Xresources && xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources |
| 12:57.06 | ouba | \amethyst, it just about the eventuality someone has the same problem than me :) |
| 12:57.13 | ouba | thanks |
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| 12:57.55 | tingle | stew: what will that do? print that string to .Xresources? but what does xrdb -merge mean? |
| 12:58.07 | \amethyst | ouba: sorry I'm not of more help; good luck |
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| 12:58.23 | ouba | \amethyst, thanks! |
| 12:58.28 | \amethyst | tingle: it means merge the resources from that file into your current X session |
| 12:58.38 | cico | how can I find out the FPS of my graphics? what is the command? |
| 12:58.47 | edju | I cannot get this wireless crap up and running. The sad story's at http://rafb.net/p/1vtolc55.html. I think there's some conf file I'm missing. Anybody with a minute, - any help appreciated. |
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| 12:59.09 | Danielss89 | \amethyst hehe now i installed php with suexec |
| 12:59.15 | stew | tingle: you might want to read the RESOURCES section of the X(7) manpage |
| 12:59.22 | Danielss89 | but now i get 403 forbidden on all pages.. |
| 12:59.24 | ouba | bye everybody |
| 12:59.50 | tingle | \amethyst: thanks |
| 12:59.55 | tingle | stew: thanks ill do that |
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| 13:00.54 | tingle | stew: that diddnt work :/ |
| 13:01.05 | dalias | cico, "fps of my graphics" is not a meaningful question |
| 13:01.15 | stew | tingle: try doing the same with "XTerm*eightBitControl: False" |
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| 13:01.28 | stew | tingle: sorry i forgot i had that one as well |
| 13:01.51 | jan__ | which hard drive modules must I add to /etc/initramfs/modules to be able to boot up the 2.6.22-2 kernel ? |
| 13:01.52 | \amethyst | Danielss89: hmm... I seem to recall that PHP and suexec need some extra help to work together... a CGI wrapper or something |
| 13:01.58 | jan__ | http://openpaste.org/en/3563/ |
| 13:02.22 | jan__ | its always stopping at Waiting to mount root fs... |
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| 13:03.19 | Danielss89 | i've added a AddHandler \amethyst |
| 13:03.31 | tingle | stew: bad luck :( |
| 13:04.00 | niklas | when I'm starting Debian I'm getting an error saying "DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error" on hdb. I've got two hard drives in my computer, hda1 is the one with Debian installed. I used to use the other in Windows. Not 100% sure about the filesystem, but I guess it's NTFS. I thought it being a NTFS drive was causing these errors, but after installing libntfs I'm still getting the error. Does anyone have any idea? |
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| 13:04.42 | stew | niklas: most likely either the cable or the hard drive is failing. you should backup immediately |
| 13:04.51 | stew | niklas: and consider verifying that this is the case with smartmontools |
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| 13:05.56 | stew | tingle: what do you mean? |
| 13:05.57 | niklas | stew oh. failing as in will be useless in a while? |
| 13:06.18 | stew | niklas: yes. and you are likely losing data |
| 13:06.40 | niklas | I'd love to do backup, but I cannot access it. I'm pretty sure there's nothing important on it anyways. |
| 13:06.53 | niklas | hmm so you think it will be broken and I wont be able to use it? |
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| 13:06.59 | \amethyst | Danielss89: you need Options ExecCGI on in the directory |
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| 13:07.20 | stew | niklas: why can't you access it? |
| 13:07.25 | niklas | you might be right... the computer is making some weird sound. I thought it was the processor fan but it could be the hard drive |
| 13:07.29 | niklas | it does not mount |
| 13:07.53 | niklas | automatically. I will give mounting it manually a shot |
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| 13:07.59 | stew | niklas: you can copy the bits off with ddrescue |
| 13:08.07 | Danielss89 | yes i have that too \amethyst.. |
| 13:08.16 | Danielss89 | just Options ExecCGI right? |
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| 13:08.20 | Danielss89 | not "on" |
| 13:08.24 | Max_- | in fstab, what filesystem should i use for a fat32 partition? msdos?!? I know there are no fat or fat32 keywords supported |
| 13:08.30 | niklas | ok cool. but it's a 200 gb harddrive, and the one I'm running Debian on is just 80 |
| 13:08.31 | stew | Max_-: vfat |
| 13:08.32 | tingle | stew: it diddnt work |
| 13:08.58 | stew | tingle: works on all the machines here |
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| 13:09.07 | Max_- | stew: thanks :) |
| 13:09.34 | runev | shouldn't "aptitude search nvidia" show me more than just nvidia-xconfig? |
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| 13:10.07 | tingle | stew: hm shall i pastebin my .Xresources just to make sure its not a typo? |
| 13:10.07 | runev | thought there'd be nvidia-kernel-xxx packages aswell |
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| 13:11.03 | stew | tingle: you can also look at AltSendsEscape and MetaSendsEscape in xterm(1) |
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| 13:13.09 | runev | 17:10 < stew> tingle: you can also look at AltSendsEscape and MetaSendsEscape |
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| 13:15.01 | abrotman | you're lucky you only pasted one line |
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| 13:16.44 | kblin | hi folks |
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| 13:17.13 | Max_- | I added mount points to my windows partitions to fstab... for example : "/dev/sda3 /home/max/F vfat defaults 0 2" but when I "mount -a", C and D get recursively locked to the max user... !? What can I do to fix that? |
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| 13:18.32 | \amethyst | Max_-: recursively locked? |
| 13:18.44 | dalias | he means the uid/gid are not set for him to access them |
| 13:19.00 | \amethyst | Max_-: So you want "max" to have read and write access? |
| 13:19.02 | Max_- | \amethyst: I mean all files are locked in it... with permissions 700 |
| 13:19.05 | dalias | is there an answer to this faq somewhere so we don't have to repeat? |
| 13:19.10 | Max_- | \amethyst: yes! |
| 13:19.17 | \amethyst | Max_-: what about other users? |
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| 13:19.31 | Max_- | \amethyst: there are none :) |
| 13:19.50 | dalias | then set uid and gid to your uid/gid |
| 13:20.02 | dalias | (type "id" to get the numbers) |
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| 13:20.40 | Max_- | dalias: I did chown on the mounting dir, but nothing changed inside nor when I remounted everything a second time |
| 13:20.47 | \amethyst | Max_-: chown doesn't work |
| 13:20.52 | Max_- | oh |
| 13:20.53 | dalias | not chown |
| 13:20.59 | dalias | the options in fstab |
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| 13:21.08 | stew | Max_-: vfat doesn't have the concept of permissions at all, so chown/chmod are meaningless |
| 13:21.09 | \amethyst | Max_-: you need the uid= and gid= mount options |
| 13:21.11 | stew | Max_-: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 13:21.22 | dalias | change defaults to uid=nnnn,gid=nnnn (where nnnn is replaced by your uid/gid numbers) |
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| 13:21.40 | Max_- | stew: yeah, I noticed.. that'S the only one which worked, but my 2 ntfs disks were not working |
| 13:21.53 | Max_- | dalias: I can add this to the end of fstab lines?! |
| 13:21.59 | \amethyst | it's different for ntfs |
| 13:22.02 | dalias | do what stew said |
| 13:22.05 | dalias | msg the bot |
| 13:22.12 | dalias | and it'll give you the instructions |
| 13:22.27 | \amethyst | actually, I guess it's not different in a way that matters right now |
| 13:23.04 | Max_- | forget about vfat, sorry for the bad example, the problem occurs with two ntfs partitions... |
| 13:23.23 | stew | Max_-: /msg dpkg ntfsro |
| 13:23.45 | \amethyst | that's for read-only |
| 13:23.52 | \amethyst | but you should be able to figure out what to change |
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| 13:24.13 | Max_- | ok |
| 13:24.13 | Max_- | yup |
| 13:24.14 | Max_- | thx |
| 13:24.24 | Max_- | I'll work with that, thanks y'all |
| 13:24.26 | stew | i doubt it, since he has to switch to fuse if he wan't rw |
| 13:24.32 | stew | Max_-: do you need write access? |
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| 13:24.46 | Max_- | stew: that would be better, yes |
| 13:24.52 | \amethyst | !ntfs-3g |
| 13:24.52 | dpkg | hmm... ntfs-3g is a NTFS driver with write support. Available in lenny but not for etch except as a backport at http://www.backports.org/. http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ |
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| 13:25.40 | \amethyst | dpkg, ntfs-3g =~ s#http://www.backports.org/#http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g# |
| 13:25.41 | dpkg | \amethyst: OK |
| 13:26.02 | Max_- | oh... I'll wait for lenny then... read can always be enough for now... but I'll note that |
| 13:30.24 | abrotman | \amethyst: that URL points to backports.org eventually |
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| 13:31.23 | predder` | can I run drbd over an md? |
| 13:31.49 | CactusMD | no matter what version of hal i use whenever i try to start dbus i get this error Starting Hardware abstraction layer: haldrun-parts: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal exited with return code 1 |
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| 13:33.29 | \amethyst | abrotman: yes, but it's easier to find there than having someone search bpo |
| 13:33.46 | stew | but its then harder to find instructions on how to setup bpo |
| 13:34.28 | stew | CactusMD: what version of debian are you running? |
| 13:34.38 | CactusMD | lenny |
| 13:34.42 | \amethyst | dpkg, ntfs-3g =~ s#http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g#http://www.backports.org/ (see its package page at http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g)# |
| 13:34.43 | dpkg | OK, \amethyst |
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| 13:35.18 | abrotman | actually .. should probably be more like "see it here, instructions here" .. but oh well |
| 13:35.24 | stew | CactusMD: have you checked the bts? |
| 13:36.02 | CactusMD | yeah |
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| 13:37.41 | \amethyst | dpkg, no, ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. http://www.ntfs-3g.org/. Available in Lenny, but not for Etch except as a backport: see the package page at http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g, backport instructions at http://www.backports.org/. |
| 13:37.41 | dpkg | okay, \amethyst |
| 13:37.58 | CactusMD | i only checked for hal, but could it be dbus? |
| 13:38.08 | \amethyst | or should it link straight to the bpo instructions page? |
| 13:38.41 | abrotman | \amethyst: if they can't find the "Instructions" link .. they shouldn't be editing their sources.list :) |
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| 13:38.57 | stew | or say "ask me about <bpo> |
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| 13:39.36 | stew | CactusMD: you might try debugging the script by putting "set -x" as the second line of the script (after !#/bin/sh) (assuming it is a sh script) |
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| 13:44.26 | harpal | I have setted my cron job. but its not running. how to taste that? |
| 13:45.12 | CactusMD | stew: http://pastebin.ca/745518 |
| 13:46.57 | bmr | harpal, lick the /etc/crontab & see how it tastes? |
| 13:47.09 | stew | CactusMD: i don't see the error you are talking about |
| 13:47.27 | stew | CactusMD: btw, i meant to add set -x to the /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal script |
| 13:47.46 | CactusMD | oh |
| 13:48.59 | CactusMD | http://paste.debian.net/40386 |
| 13:49.15 | CactusMD | they have it as a severe bug on bts, but they haven't solved it yet |
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| 13:50.26 | mxantho | Hello people i have a problem I wished to solve.. I Have the latest Debian distribution with the latest Apache, php, and mysql packages. I am willing to open a socket via fsockopen or pfsockopen but I am getting an error message "Unable to find the socket transport https". I have also tried with ssl:// instead of https://. I googled it but most answers are by using php ./configure which I can't use because I installed the packages with apt-get. Any ideas? thank |
| 13:51.01 | harpal | bmr, sorry how to test that? |
| 13:51.55 | bmr | harpal, check that the script is executable for the account it's running as & chmod if needed |
| 13:52.21 | bmr | it's also useful to add some output to the script & make sure it runs the way you expect it manually before testing with cron |
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| 13:53.31 | stew | mxantho: what are they changing with ./configure? |
| 13:53.54 | mxantho | i guess the configuration file. php.ini(?) |
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| 13:54.22 | mxantho | #flood Php Configure command './configure' '--with-apxs=3D/www/bin/apxs' |
| 13:54.22 | mxantho | > '--with-openssl-dir=3D/usr/local=AD/src/webserver/openssl-0. 9.7d/=AD' |
| 13:54.22 | mxantho | > '--enable-trans-sid' '--disable-libxml' |
| 13:54.26 | CactusMD | stew: any ideas? |
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| 13:54.58 | stew | CactusMD: did you actually put "set -x" into the 20hal script? |
| 13:55.01 | stew | CactusMD: what is the bug# |
| 13:55.26 | CactusMD | replace set -x instead of set -xe? |
| 13:55.42 | stew | CactusMD: don't replace anything, just add a line "set -x" |
| 13:56.17 | Danielss89 | if i do apt-get --purge remove apache2 shouldnt all the config files be removed also? |
| 13:56.24 | wols_ | no |
| 13:56.25 | CactusMD | this one http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=445861 |
| 13:56.30 | stew | Danielss89: no, becuase the configs are owned by apache2.2-common |
| 13:56.30 | wols_ | !remove apache2 |
| 13:56.36 | wols_ | !remove apache |
| 13:56.45 | wols_ | wasn't there a factoid for it? |
| 13:56.57 | Danielss89 | so i should remove apache2.2.-common? |
| 13:57.06 | wols_ | if you want to remove apache2: yes |
| 13:57.06 | et | dpkg -r apache |
| 13:57.53 | CactusMD | stew: what i get http://paste.debian.net/40388 and the bug report on bts http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=445861 |
| 13:57.54 | Danielss89 | hmm |
| 13:58.03 | Danielss89 | it doesnt remove the config files with dpkg either et |
| 13:58.39 | et | i just did that so that dpkg has something to do |
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| 13:58.49 | Danielss89 | :P |
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| 14:00.04 | stew | Danielss89: there is no way that dpkg -r should remove conffiles, and "dpkg -r apache" should certainly not do anything with apache2 |
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| 14:02.14 | stew | CactusMD: is acpid running? does haldaemon system user exist and also a haldaemon user group? |
| 14:02.18 | harpal | bmr, I have script that updates that antivirus clamav. I have made that smallscript. it uses freshclam command to update. but at cron time no instance is running of freshclam |
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| 14:02.50 | bmr | harpal, so... check the script runs fine without cron, then check your crontab syntax |
| 14:02.58 | Narada | what was the name of the all-in-one meta package with gcc and all the associated dev tools ? |
| 14:03.08 | bmr | if that's all fine, then just create a really simple crontab to run one command and check that works |
| 14:03.15 | stew | Narada: build-essential |
| 14:03.28 | bmr | if all those bits worked fine to now, you should be able to see why your clamav job is not running properly |
| 14:03.33 | harpal | without cron scripts working fine |
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| 14:03.48 | bmr | harpal, so now check the other stuff |
| 14:03.56 | stew | harpal: what do you mean by "at cron time"? does your job run by cron depend on your users environment? |
| 14:04.05 | bmr | harpal, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/56 might be useful if you're not familiar with cron |
| 14:04.18 | Narada | stew: thanks |
| 14:04.33 | bmr | stew, I was assuming that just meant "at the time I think I scheduled cron to run the script", but that coulda been a bad assumption :) |
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| 14:04.57 | mammoth | ola |
| 14:04.58 | \amethyst | gah, stupid gnome! |
| 14:05.15 | mammoth | wats |
| 14:05.20 | harpal | I have done 0 18 * * * www-data /etc/avupscpt in crontab |
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| 14:05.46 | \amethyst | they removed the pref for the minimum size of an entry in the window list |
| 14:06.03 | \amethyst | it's still in gconf, but ignored |
| 14:06.07 | CactusMD | stew: kacpid |
| 14:06.16 | CactusMD | is running, not sure about the other stuff |
| 14:06.40 | JacobH | Could anyone let me know how one can split a PS or PDF file into its separate pages (or point me in the right direction)? I'm sure this is easy to do but I can't find anything helpful on the web! |
| 14:07.04 | CactusMD | dbus daemon is under messagebus user, but hals not running so i don't know how to check if it haldaemon has its own user group |
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| 14:07.48 | wols_ | JacobH: pdf toolkit |
| 14:08.18 | JacobH | wols_: many thanks |
| 14:08.21 | \amethyst | which means that group_windows=auto doesn't trigger until I have 21 windows open |
| 14:11.13 | stew | harpal: wait, which file did you put that in? |
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| 14:11.57 | stew | CactusMD: if you dont' have acpid running, try starting it (or installing it and starting it) |
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| 14:12.47 | harpal | stew, I have putted that in /etc/crontab |
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| 14:15.57 | CactusMD | stew: did, and it's the same error |
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| 14:17.02 | va | how do I get my laptop's intel wifi 2100 to work? |
| 14:17.08 | abrotman | !ipw2100 |
| 14:17.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ipw2100 is a wireless driver for certain intel wireless cards: aptitude install ipw2100-modules-`uname -r` and then get the firmware from http://ipw2100.sf.net/ and drop that in /lib/firmware/ -- Also see #ipw2100 |
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| 14:18.22 | va | there's no such package ipw2100-modules-* |
| 14:18.34 | va | i guess i only need the firmware then |
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| 14:18.43 | va | since i have the module already? |
| 14:18.44 | RichiH | when logging in after an upgrade to newest KDE in sid, i get 'could not start kdeinit. please check your installation' -- can anyone tell me what log files to look at, etc? |
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| 14:19.06 | cast | anyone know why latex/pdflatex has stopped being able to find things like article.cls and report.cls? etch, i havent' changed anything since yesterday o_0 |
| 14:19.11 | RichiH | va: yes, ipw2100 is in the kernel, these days |
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| 14:21.33 | va | thanks, i got the eth device so it will probably work |
| 14:21.50 | trifler | I have and old p3 500 which use as local web test enviroment when i have nutty session and typing in vim it tends to "lag" when i want to move around in editor. Is there anything i should look for that makes it run so saggy :/ |
| 14:21.52 | maxamillion | RichiH: i was under the impression you still had to use module-assistant to get it up and running |
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| 14:22.08 | joseph | Where is the modules blacklist? |
| 14:22.19 | maxamillion | RichiH: wait ... maybe that is just the ipw3945 |
| 14:22.34 | maxamillion | joseph: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ? |
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| 14:22.57 | abrotman | joseph: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 14:23.26 | va | do you know how ubuntu handles these firmwares? since the card works with the bootable cd. Are they allowed to put them on cds? |
| 14:23.29 | maxamillion | joseph: i'm not quite sure if that's what you were asking ... but that's where the file is located and if you need to modify it them just make a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.custom and add your custom blacklists in there and the system will read it on boot |
| 14:23.32 | oKtosiTe | Hey there, I recently installed Debian Testing on a laptop with a measly 128 megabytes of RAM, I'm running Xfce on it, and I don't want GDM to run (didn't install it either). I seem to be stuck without any kind of session management at the moment though, and manually starting things like gnome-keyring-daemon and update-notification (these are examples) gets boring after a while. Is it possible to get session management without heving to write m |
| 14:23.32 | oKtosiTe | y own .xsession file? |
| 14:23.54 | Danielss89 | okey lets say i have a php script that add a domain to a database, but i also want it to create a dir in /home/vmail/... the php script is in /var/www/xxX/script.php |
| 14:23.59 | Danielss89 | how can i do that.. i cant chown /home/vmail/* to www-data as it needs to be chown to the user vmail |
| 14:24.04 | Danielss89 | are there a good way of doing this? and is it possible |
| 14:24.16 | abrotman | Danielss89: this is a ##php question and yes |
| 14:24.17 | maxamillion | oKtosiTe: there is an autostart feature in xfce that lets you just add those to the xfce-session |
| 14:24.24 | abrotman | good idea .. maybe not |
| 14:24.36 | joseph | I just installed with "installgui BOOT_DEBUG=2 intel_agp.blacklist=yes". Does that only have an effect during the installation, or does it carry over after the reboot? |
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| 14:24.48 | Danielss89 | abrotman how do you recommend i do it then? |
| 14:24.49 | joseph | How do I tell if I have intel_agp in my blacklist currently? |
| 14:24.50 | oKtosiTe | maxamillion: it doesn't appear to list anything but Xfce tips. |
| 14:25.07 | larsl` | Is there a way for a non-root user to mount and unmount encrypted filesystems from files? |
| 14:25.25 | oKtosiTe | maxamillion: oh, duh |
| 14:25.30 | maxamillion | oKtosiTe: ok, just a moment ... let me boot a xfce live session in qemu |
| 14:25.32 | abrotman | Danielss89: i'm not ##php :) |
| 14:25.34 | oKtosiTe | maxamillion: I can add things, lol! |
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| 14:25.40 | maxamillion | oKtosiTe: yup :) |
| 14:25.45 | larsl` | I have a file containing an encrypted filesystem (created with losetup and cryptsetup) and I'd like to be able to mount it without being root. |
| 14:25.51 | DosKey | I need some help |
| 14:25.58 | DosKey | I installed libc and libc-devf |
| 14:26.00 | oKtosiTe | maxamillion: well, thanks! |
| 14:26.06 | maxamillion | oKtosiTe: anytime |
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| 14:26.09 | cast | solved it, /etc/cron.daily/tetex was assploding since /tmp/ was full |
| 14:26.15 | DosKey | I go to install libakamaru0 |
| 14:26.16 | CactusMD | stew: no idea? |
| 14:26.18 | cast | /tmp/ was full because of blender |
| 14:26.25 | DosKey | It says libc dependancy not satisfiable |
| 14:26.29 | DosKey | Help |
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| 14:27.35 | maxamillion | DosKey: are you installing libakamaru0 from the repositories or from source? |
| 14:27.36 | DosKey | I installed libc and libc-devf |
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| 14:27.52 | DosKey | erm just from .deb |
| 14:27.58 | Danielss89 | abrotman hehe, i meant another way than with a php script.. |
| 14:28.00 | DosKey | I shall try from source |
| 14:28.20 | abrotman | Danielss89: it'll work .. depends what you're really doing with it i guess |
| 14:28.31 | maxamillion | DosKey: where did you get the .deb? ... its possible the person that packaged it had a newer version of libc than what is in the stable repositories |
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| 14:29.06 | DosKey | Yeah, sounds reasonable |
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| 14:29.38 | va | can I use wpa with the ipw2100 driver? if yes, how? wpasupplicant? |
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| 14:29.46 | Danielss89 | i just want some of my webusers to be able to create new mail users... and for that something has to be put in a db, and a folder has to be created... /home/vmail/domain/user |
| 14:29.48 | joseph | how do I tell if a particular module is loaded? |
| 14:29.54 | maxamillion | va: network-manager will support it |
| 14:29.57 | liable | va: yes and yes |
| 14:30.05 | maxamillion | va: what desktop environment do you use? |
| 14:30.31 | va | maxamillion: gnome currently but i switch them alot so I'd rather have it independent |
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| 14:31.03 | maxamillion | va: well, network-manager is the independent backend and network-manager-gnome and network-manager-kde are just the front ends for each desktop environment |
| 14:31.48 | saintiss | hi all |
| 14:31.51 | stew | CactusMD: you did actually put "set -x" into the 20hal script right? (i never did see any output from that, perhaps it is getting squashed for some reason) |
| 14:31.56 | Danielss89 | abrotman someone told me that i could allow the www-data user to execute sudo mkdir with no password. and then i could do it with php |
| 14:31.58 | stew | CactusMD: did you check that those users exist? |
| 14:32.16 | abrotman | Danielss89: that's one method .. yes |
| 14:32.16 | saintiss | I'm running an amd64 system, but I need a 32-bit environment as well, for example with user-mode linux |
| 14:32.18 | saintiss | is this possible? |
| 14:32.36 | Danielss89 | so i can make the www-data user do sudo mkdir and not something like rm and stuff? |
| 14:32.39 | stew | CactusMD: if so i'd recommend responding to that bug with a "me too" and saying that you tried the things that biebl recommended in his last message to the bug |
| 14:32.40 | PerfDave | saintiss: Yes", aptitude install ia32-libs" IIRC |
| 14:32.58 | \amethyst | saintiss: you can also install a 32-bit system in a chroot |
| 14:32.58 | CactusMD | stew: alright |
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| 14:33.12 | va | maxamillion: oh, is network-manager the thing that doesn't allow me to manually assign an IP address even for a couple seconds? |
| 14:33.19 | saintiss | \amethyst, yes, but that's not enough... I've got software which performs raw memory indexing, and it crashes in that environment |
| 14:33.31 | stew | Danielss89: create scripts that perform the high level functions that www-data needs to perform and give it sudo access to those scripts, give sudo access to low level things like mkdir and rm isn't a good idea |
| 14:33.41 | \amethyst | saintiss: raw memory indexing? |
| 14:33.45 | va | maxamillion: like, i take down the network interface and it brings it back up and similar? |
| 14:34.02 | saintiss | \amethyst, pointer arithmetic... e.g. adding 4 to a pointer... in a 64-bit environment, this should be 8 |
| 14:34.02 | maxamillion | va: no, it lets you manually assign an ip address either using its own built in gui or it lets you do it using ifup/ifdown or ifconfig .... |
| 14:34.22 | Danielss89 | stew what method should i then use to allow php to create dirs in /home/vmail and chown them to vmail |
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| 14:34.41 | \amethyst | saintiss: and this program doesn't work when it's run in 32-bit mode under a 64-bit kernel? |
| 14:34.47 | saintiss | \amethyst, exactly |
| 14:34.50 | maxamillion | va: oh ... i dunno about it auto bringing up interfaces, i've never had issues with it doing that and i use in both kde and gnome, and i actually use the gnome one in xfce also |
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| 14:35.07 | va | maxamillion: but it uses wpasupplicant for wifi encryption, right? |
| 14:35.19 | maxamillion | va: uhmm... just a moment |
| 14:35.25 | stew | Danielss89: add a script like "/usr/sbin/createnewmaildir" that does the mkdir and chown and whatever else, and give sudo access to that script |
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| 14:35.43 | \amethyst | saintiss: How is it failing? |
| 14:35.48 | saintiss | \amethyst, segfault |
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| 14:35.52 | vn_ | hi, how can I run bitlbee from another user than root? |
| 14:35.53 | maxamillion | va: yes, it does look like it uses wpasupplicant |
| 14:36.04 | saintiss | \amethyst, it works on a 32-bit machine though... |
| 14:36.06 | \amethyst | saintiss: where are you running it? |
| 14:36.17 | \amethyst | saintiss: on an amd64 install on an amd64 processor? |
| 14:36.24 | saintiss | \amethyst, indeed |
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| 14:36.33 | \amethyst | have you tried running it in a 32-bit chroot? |
| 14:36.38 | saintiss | \amethyst, yes |
| 14:36.40 | saintiss | same problem |
| 14:36.40 | va | maxamillion: I can't remember which package was it but I need to connect this device, configure it then i need several IP addresses at once and so on. And some package was just erasing my configuration every minute or so |
| 14:36.45 | Danielss89 | and then i call that script with php stew? |
| 14:36.52 | stew | Danielss89: yes |
| 14:36.58 | \amethyst | saintiss: do you have the same problem running it on an i386 install with an amd64 kernel? |
| 14:37.05 | va | maxamillion: was rather nasty |
| 14:37.10 | stew | Danielss89: err, that should be /usr/local/sbin , not /usr/sbin, probably |
| 14:37.22 | saintiss | \amethyst, never tried.. but it works on several x86 machines |
| 14:37.27 | va | maxamillion: will try the manager anyway, thanks |
| 14:37.51 | maxamillion | va: oh, yes ... network-manager will over write certain config files, but you can add custom configs to a .custom file |
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| 14:38.01 | Dark_Apostrophe | The LUKS encryption that debian-installer comes with - what encryption algorithm and how many bits is it by default? |
| 14:39.32 | maxamillion | va: like with /etc/resolv.conf ... that will be edited by network-manager, but if you want to add your own by hand then add them the /etc/resolv.conf.custom and the system will read the .custom file also |
| 14:39.57 | DosKey | libakamaru0: Depends: libc6 (>=2.5-0ubuntu1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 is to be installed Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>=2.12.9) but 2.12.4-2 is to be installed |
| 14:40.02 | DosKey | :S |
| 14:40.09 | DosKey | Not working... |
| 14:40.18 | DosKey | I can't find the source |
| 14:41.33 | DosKey | maxamillion ?? |
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| 14:42.11 | maxamillion | DosKey: oh, sorry... i'm at work ... didn't notice you were talking until my nick recognition picked up |
| 14:42.46 | maxamillion | DosKey: uhmm... do you have gdebi installed? |
| 14:43.01 | DosKey | yup |
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| 14:43.18 | maxamillion | DosKey: have you tried installing that package with gdebi? |
| 14:43.34 | DosKey | Yeah it says dependance libc6 is not satisfiable |
| 14:43.35 | stew | DosKey: where are you getting libakamaru0 from? (its not in debian) |
| 14:43.39 | Dark_Apostrophe | The LUKS encryption that debian-installer comes with - what encryption algorithm and how many bits is it by default? |
| 14:43.46 | DosKey | synaptic |
| 14:43.54 | stew | DosKey: where is synaptic getting it from? |
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| 14:44.07 | stew | DosKey: can you show us the output of "apt-cache policy" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 14:44.33 | Dark_Apostrophe | abrotman: Are you around? |
| 14:44.38 | abrotman | no |
| 14:44.45 | maxamillion | lo |
| 14:44.50 | Dark_Apostrophe | abrotman: :p |
| 14:44.50 | maxamillion | -.-; |
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| 14:44.51 | abrotman | what's up ? |
| 14:44.54 | stew | DosKey: you seem to be pulling a binary package from some non-debian source, and this pacakge was compiled for ubuntu fiesty, not debian etch. you'd need to find one compiled for etch, or recompile the source on your system |
| 14:45.03 | Dark_Apostrophe | abrotman: A question about Debian-Installer |
| 14:45.19 | \amethyst | ed file <<<$'1,2d\nwq' |
| 14:45.21 | \amethyst | doh |
| 14:45.23 | Dark_Apostrophe | abrotman: The LUKS encryption it features - what algorithm and how many bits is it by default? |
| 14:45.24 | DosKey | I can't find the source and yeah it's all debian reops |
| 14:45.26 | DosKey | *repos |
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| 14:45.41 | stew | DosKey: its not all debian repos, since libakamaru0 isn't in debian |
| 14:45.43 | joseph | How do I find out why any particular package is not yet in testing branch? |
| 14:45.47 | abrotman | Dark_Apostrophe: NFC |
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| 14:45.52 | DosKey | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.52 | DosKey | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.52 | DosKey | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.52 | DosKey | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:45.54 | abrotman | !why is foo not in testing |
| 14:45.54 | dpkg | foo is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=foo |
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| 14:46.02 | milardovich | hi |
| 14:46.02 | DosKey | Shit |
| 14:46.11 | DosKey | Sorry for the language |
| 14:46.12 | DosKey | :S |
| 14:46.14 | Dark_Apostrophe | abrotman: Any idea where I might find out? |
| 14:46.29 | Dark_Apostrophe | abrotman: Google didn't help mucj |
| 14:46.29 | stew | DosKey: http://download.tuxfamily.org feisty/eyecandy Packages is not a debian repository, it is a 3rd party repository for ubuntu |
| 14:46.31 | Dark_Apostrophe | much* |
| 14:47.22 | DosKey | It's not being loaded anyways |
| 14:47.32 | DosKey | Need the gpg key |
| 14:47.38 | stew | DosKey: the gpg key for what? |
| 14:47.59 | donaldo | hi everyone. i have two etch systems here on the lan at work. both of them can reach other computeres on the lan, but not beyond the lan. here is the output of route and ifconfig: http://blackstreet.strangled.net:13666/~donny/download.php?file=/home/donny/incoming/dump.txt&view=browser |
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| 14:48.22 | DosKey | Anyways |
| 14:48.27 | DosKey | I took them out |
| 14:48.28 | donaldo | and it's dhcp |
| 14:48.37 | DosKey | It's still finding libakamaru0... |
| 14:48.39 | joseph | This does not make much sense to me, can anyone translate? http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=gnash |
| 14:48.52 | DosKey | stew |
| 14:49.02 | donaldo | joseph: what would you like to know? |
| 14:49.18 | \amethyst | donaldo: and what is 10.0.1.1? |
| 14:49.18 | DosKey | No it's not... |
| 14:49.26 | stew | DosKey: what were you trying to install when this all started? |
| 14:49.33 | DosKey | kiba-dock |
| 14:49.37 | DosKey | That's my goal. |
| 14:49.44 | donaldo | \amethyst: our NAT |
| 14:50.02 | donaldo | \amethyst: i assume it does other things as well though |
| 14:50.03 | \amethyst | donaldo: is it working properly? |
| 14:50.08 | donaldo | \amethyst: good question |
| 14:50.13 | abrotman | joseph: gnash is in testing .. it's trying to put a new version in .. it fails on some arches .. and has some other deps missing |
| 14:50.18 | donaldo | \amethyst: i have no reason to believe that it is the cause of problems |
| 14:50.22 | joseph | donaldo: Um, well why is gnash still 0.7.2 (that version is 1 year old) |
| 14:50.27 | donaldo | \amethyst: except that it isn't working |
| 14:50.38 | \amethyst | donaldo: well, it's the thing that's supposed to be forwarding your packets to the outside world |
| 14:50.49 | joseph | abrotman: oh okay, well 0.7.2 is a year old, so I was just wondering when 0.8.1 will get into testing. |
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| 14:50.55 | \amethyst | and you packets don't reach the outside world, so ... |
| 14:51.06 | stew | DosKey: then you need to convice apt that it no longer wants to install kiba-dock so that it stops trying to install libakamaru0 |
| 14:51.07 | \amethyst | s/u/ur/ |
| 14:51.27 | abrotman | joseph: when it's able to happen .. currently it is not |
| 14:51.30 | smhar | hello friends |
| 14:51.40 | DosKey | Nono my apt isn't broken. |
| 14:51.42 | donaldo | joseph: iirc, could be that it was overlooked.. |
| 14:51.46 | DosKey | It's me trying to install it not apt |
| 14:51.50 | stew | DosKey: then you need to find sources for these packages, and follow the instructions in "/msg dpkg simple sid backport" but instead of backporting from sid, you are going to be bakporting from download.tuxfamily.org/fiesty i guess |
| 14:52.02 | stew | DosKey: its you telling libapt to install it |
| 14:52.13 | donaldo | \amethyst: yes i know that, .. i just dxon't want that to be the problem because it means i have to fight my boss/isp to make things work :( |
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| 14:52.30 | DosKey | Yeah i tried through apt and i tried through the .deb |
| 14:52.36 | \amethyst | donaldo: do other machines work through the NAT? |
| 14:52.59 | stew | DosKey: you should not try to install packages compiled for other distros/releases |
| 14:53.03 | smhar | I have X configured with ati driver and it is working -it seems-, but I can only get 1024x768 resolutions in gnome, this is my xorg.conf: http://paste.debian.net/40395 |
| 14:53.22 | Hoxzer | :\ Hmmm I suppose it isn't possible to install rt61 drivers with m-a ? |
| 14:53.26 | donaldo | \amethyst: yes |
| 14:53.32 | efaistos | is there a group for usb device |
| 14:53.32 | Hoxzer | They aren't included int he list |
| 14:53.34 | efaistos | ? |
| 14:53.38 | Dark_Apostrophe | The LUKS encryption that debian-installer comes with - what encryption algorithm and how many bits is it by default? |
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| 14:53.56 | \amethyst | donaldo: other Linux machines? |
| 14:54.05 | donaldo | \amethyst: no other such machines |
| 14:54.09 | maxamillion | Dark_Apostrophe: don't quote me on this, but i am wanting to say i read somewhere before that its AES 128-bit |
| 14:54.15 | abrotman | Dark_Apostrophe: stop repeating |
| 14:54.20 | \amethyst | the others are windows? |
| 14:54.27 | donaldo | \amethyst: yes, sadly |
| 14:54.53 | Dark_Apostrophe | abrotman: Sorry, I thought someone who knew it might have missed the question |
| 14:55.01 | Dark_Apostrophe | maxamillion: Damn, that's not terribly strong. |
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| 14:55.29 | Dark_Apostrophe | maxamillion: Maybe I shouldn't have put it on my laptop, then |
| 14:55.47 | \amethyst | donaldo: and you can't get any packets through? the routing table looks correct |
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| 14:56.59 | \amethyst | donaldo: maybe sniff the network when one of them does DHCP vs when you do DHCP |
| 14:57.21 | \amethyst | donaldo: see if the windows machines are doing any special authentication to the DHCP server |
| 14:58.08 | maxamillion | Dark_Apostrophe: not too terribly strong? ... are you aware of how difficult it would be for someone to decrypt a 16 character alpha-numeric 128-bit encrypted filesystem? |
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| 14:58.34 | maxamillion | 16 character alpha-numeric password protected* |
| 14:58.41 | Dark_Apostrophe | maxamillion: I use a 21 character alphanumeric password, with a few characters like !, _, { etc |
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| 14:59.08 | Dark_Apostrophe | maxamillion: But given a sufficiently fast machine and enough time, it would fall under brute force |
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| 14:59.42 | maxamillion | Dark_Apostrophe: even better, but i read the stats on it ... and there isn't a machine fast enough available today that can crack a password in our lifetime |
| 14:59.46 | maxamillion | brb |
| 14:59.53 | \amethyst | if you're using a 16-char alphanumeric password it's not really 128 bits of encryption anymore :) |
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| 15:00.25 | \amethyst | that's more like 95 bits of key |
| 15:00.37 | Dark_Apostrophe | \amethyst: And 22? |
| 15:00.42 | slaq | anyone know a good place to rent a reliable dedicated server in the states? it's for business use, so reliability is king, price doesn't matter so much. |
| 15:00.45 | \amethyst | 22's good |
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| 15:01.34 | \amethyst | 21 alphanumeric only (case-sensitive) chars is 125 bits, 22 chars is 131 bits |
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| 15:02.07 | Dark_Apostrophe | \amethyst: I just counted the chars. 24 |
| 15:02.25 | Dark_Apostrophe | \amethyst: took me forever to memorize it |
| 15:02.52 | \amethyst | BTW, this is assuming character frequencies are uniformly distributed |
| 15:02.54 | vn_ | hi, how can I run bitlbee from another user than root? or how do I start it.. |
| 15:03.05 | \amethyst | s/ frequencie/ |
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| 15:04.19 | stew | vn_: the debian package should have set up bitlbee to run as the "bitlbee" user in /etc/inetd.conf |
| 15:05.48 | smhar | I have X configured with ati driver and it is working -it seems-, but I can only get 1024x768 resolutions in gnome, this is my xorg.conf: http://paste.debian.net/40395 |
| 15:06.40 | vn_ | stew: the only line I have about it in that file is : 5225 stream tcp nowait bitlbee /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/bitlbee |
| 15:06.43 | vn_ | is that ok? |
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| 15:07.30 | stew | vn_: that says that it will run on port 5225 as user bitlbee (man inetd.conf) |
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| 15:08.04 | vn_ | ok, am I supposed to see a bitlbee process running in ps aux? because there's none |
| 15:08.29 | vn_ | I restarted inetd |
| 15:09.05 | stew | vn_: no, you see inetd bound to port 5225, and when somehting connects to port 5225, inetd spawns an instance of /usr/sbin/bitlbee running as user bitlbee in order to handle the connection |
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| 15:09.24 | vn_ | ah! ok..then I'll change the port |
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| 15:11.54 | vn_ | ho yeah it works, thanks stew |
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| 15:14.13 | anhadikal | hello |
| 15:14.20 | anhadikal | i need some help |
| 15:14.58 | anhadikal | myproblem is: i want start vnc4server in background as root ... and the user musst not be abled to kil the process |
| 15:15.07 | anhadikal | how can i make this? |
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| 15:15.35 | DosKey | http://kibadock.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/kibadock/trunk/kiba-dock/ |
| 15:15.40 | DosKey | I need to svn that folder but |
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| 15:16.10 | DosKey | home-8e9053809c:~/kiba-dock# svn co http://kibadock.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ kibadock |
| 15:16.13 | DosKey | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/viewvc' |
| 15:16.16 | DosKey | svn: PROPFIND of '/viewvc': 302 Found (http://kibadock.svn.sourceforge.net) |
| 15:16.28 | DosKey | i tried a few different ways |
| 15:18.27 | Azrael_- | anhadikal: starting the vncserver as root should prevent the user from killing it imho |
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| 15:18.55 | anhadikal | hmm and how can i start it automaticly? |
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| 15:19.11 | anhadikal | when gnome ist starting should vnc start |
| 15:19.30 | maxamillion | anhadikal: add it to the session |
| 15:19.33 | DosKey | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:19.42 | anhadikal | okk, i try thx |
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| 15:23.23 | stew | DosKey: if you already found it kibadock packaged, it would probably be easier to just backport the package than try to use the upstream sources |
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| 15:29.05 | wintix | hey guys. is it possible to convert a raid 5 to a raid 6 via mdadm? |
| 15:29.27 | wintix | i can't seem to find relevant info in the docs. |
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| 15:30.59 | ma3x | hi stew |
| 15:31.09 | Ronin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.17 | Ronin | damn tab completion |
| 15:31.32 | Ronin | and stupid fingers too i must add, sucks getting older and dumber i swear |
| 15:31.48 | ma3x | after i create mkfifo file how can i output /dev/raw1394 to the mkfifo file |
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| 15:40.40 | no3sc | How do I know if my soundcard is intalled properly? *Don't have any speakers installed yet* |
| 15:40.57 | SlayerXP | no3sc: have a look through the output of "dmesg" |
| 15:41.09 | cahoot | no3sc, only thing you can check is /proc/asound |
| 15:41.09 | no3sc | no will do. |
| 15:42.11 | no3sc | dmesg was alot :P |
| 15:42.15 | cahoot | no3sc, aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav would complain |
| 15:42.49 | no3sc | Don't have aplay |
| 15:42.57 | no3sc | should mpg123 work? |
| 15:43.15 | cahoot | you want aplay - alsa-utils IIRC |
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| 15:43.33 | stew | no3sc: mpg123 should work |
| 15:43.41 | no3sc | cahoot: why? What's it good for? |
| 15:43.49 | no3sc | Is alsaplayer a good player? |
| 15:43.53 | isamar | hi folks |
| 15:43.57 | cahoot | aplay |
| 15:44.01 | isamar | needing some hand with kernel-wedge |
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| 15:44.09 | isamar | aybody knows how to play with that ? |
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| 15:44.14 | no3sc | *trying to make a cdplayer of an old 450mhz p3. |
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| 15:44.58 | no3sc | Oh I'e forgot to install Alsa |
| 15:45.10 | stew | no3sc: /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
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| 15:46.28 | isamar | what about dpkg-buildpackage.. any1 knows about that? |
| 15:46.30 | no3sc | stew: I do't think I have alsa att all installed |
| 15:46.51 | stew | no3sc: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
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| 15:47.18 | cahoot | no3sc, what debian version? kernel? |
| 15:48.09 | no3sc | etch. D't remember what kernerl |
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| 15:48.38 | cahoot | then alsa is already there |
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| 15:49.58 | no3sc | Yes it was. Saw that now |
| 15:50.05 | no3sc | But I don't have alsaconf |
| 15:50.14 | cahoot | not needed |
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| 15:50.38 | no3sc | cahoot: ok. Do I have a soundfile somewhere that I could try play? |
| 15:50.45 | cahoot | no3sc, aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav would complain |
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| 15:51.01 | Feh | hi :-) |
| 15:51.02 | no3sc | I did not have /usr/share/sound* |
| 15:51.10 | stew | no3sc: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 15:52.04 | cahoot | no3sc, comes with alsa-utils |
| 15:52.08 | no3sc | dumdidum. Forgot to install utils |
| 15:52.09 | no3sc | =) |
| 15:52.24 | Feh | I have a file /usr/share/defoma/defoma-test.sh which has a filesize of >1.1TB, according to ls/du. How can I delete it? rm -f doesn't work... |
| 15:52.39 | no3sc | Is there someway for me with putty join the same "tty" all the time? |
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| 15:53.17 | no3sc | I would like to jump to let's say tty4 everytime I use putty to connect *the one I plan to use as player tty* |
| 15:53.55 | liable | no3sc: use screen |
| 15:54.19 | no3sc | liable: whats that? |
| 15:54.30 | no3sc | asked dpkg |
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| 15:55.13 | darrh00 | !Google |
| 15:55.13 | dpkg | google is, like, a search engine owned by Google Inc. whose mission statement is to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." The largest search engine on the web, Google receives over 200 million queries each day through its various services. It's website can be found at http://www.google.com |
| 15:55.16 | no3sc | hmm so I use putty/ssh to connect. And then I use screen to jump around? |
| 15:55.36 | PerfDave | no3sc: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 15:56.01 | no3sc | I want to make a small dvd/musicplayer *htpc*. |
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| 15:56.12 | no3sc | And at the moment I dont have any graphics |
| 15:56.18 | n_np | hello guys, how do i unlock the package cvsnt to uninstall it? |
| 15:56.26 | stew | no3sc: you could, for instance, start screen with "screen -S music" which will create a screen with the name "music" then anytime you want to get back to that player, just reconnect and type "screen -r music" or "screen -x music" and you'll be reconnected where you left off |
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| 15:56.39 | no3sc | So I use putty from my laptop to config and install. And I would like to have a irrsi session open all the time |
| 15:56.47 | no3sc | so i can join the same from anywhere I like |
| 15:56.54 | dalias | is the debian bts software available for use by other projects? |
| 15:57.00 | n_np | Stopping CVSNT Lock Server Daemon: invoke-rc.d: initscript cvsnt, action "stop" failed. |
| 15:57.00 | stew | n_np: what makes you say it is locked? |
| 15:57.02 | n_np | please help! |
| 15:57.06 | dalias | it's by far the best (actually the only usable) i've ever seen |
| 15:57.08 | n_np | it gives me that error code |
| 15:57.10 | PerfDave | no3sc: Then you want to use screen, but that's got nothign to do with connecting ot the same tty all the time |
| 15:57.10 | no3sc | And so that I can see they tty where mpg123 is running. |
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| 15:57.31 | stew | dalias: its in the debbugs package |
| 15:57.34 | no3sc | PerfDave: hmm ok. Any suggestions how to achive this? Is it possible? |
| 15:58.17 | n_np | stew how to uninstall that? |
| 15:58.28 | stew | n_np: you can either debug the init script or skip it, if you want to debug it, add "set -x" as the second line of the script, if you want to just skip it, add "exit 0" instead |
| 15:58.45 | n_np | im just using aptitude remove to uninstall it |
| 15:58.46 | PerfDave | no3sc: Youc an do what you want without sshing to the same tty all the time, using screen. |
| 15:59.41 | no3sc | http://pastebin.com/d790f0499 <- thats what I get from playing /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav |
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| 16:00.10 | n_np | stew i dont know how to debug it when its aptitude |
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| 16:00.14 | stew | no3sc: mpg123 doesn't know how to play .wav files, only .mp3s |
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| 16:00.25 | dotCOMmie | anyone have problems with debian repos? |
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| 16:00.41 | stew | n_np: you can debug it by putting set -x as the second line of the init script |
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| 16:00.54 | no3sc | stew: What program does play wav then =) |
| 16:00.57 | stew | dotCOMmie: yes, almost definately |
| 16:01.05 | cahoot | no3sc, but it doesn't complai about missing sound device which was the point |
| 16:01.08 | stew | no3sc: he suggested aplay, which should work |
| 16:01.23 | no3sc | cahoot: ok stew: I guess =) |
| 16:01.47 | Isil`Zha | i used several package from dotdeb. is there an easy way to reinstall everything i had from there and replace it with the official version? |
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| 16:02.03 | dotCOMmie | stew: 404 and 502s? |
| 16:02.24 | stew | dotCOMmie: why do you ask? |
| 16:02.25 | no3sc | Well, nvm the sound now then. It seems to work. |
| 16:02.37 | Kaiserlich | hi all. how can i disable a user account from loggin in to a debian system? will it do just to set their shell to /bin/false? |
| 16:02.52 | petemc | passwd -l works too |
| 16:03.00 | n_np | what is the command to scroll down or filter in top? |
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| 16:03.17 | Isil`Zha | the version of these packages containes 'dotdeb' is there anything i can do with that? |
| 16:03.31 | dotCOMmie | I'm trying to install a package and I get a lot of 404 ad 503 |
| 16:03.37 | stew | dotCOMmie: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 16:04.04 | stew | Isil`Zha: what version of debian are you running? |
| 16:04.25 | no3sc | Can I from the "outside" join the same "session" all the time somehow? Could I do that with screen? I would like to have a irssi running and join the same irrsi session evertime (like a bouncer or something) |
| 16:04.44 | petemc | no3sc: run irssi under screen, use screen -x |
| 16:04.45 | wols_ | no3sc: yes. scren |
| 16:04.48 | wols_ | *screen |
| 16:04.49 | no3sc | I mean, so that I can continue from another place. |
| 16:04.54 | dotCOMmie | stew: one sec I'm gonna try adding another repo to my sources.list |
| 16:04.56 | no3sc | is screen secure? |
| 16:05.01 | no3sc | encrypted and stuff |
| 16:05.03 | wols_ | yes you can. ssh+screen+irssi |
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| 16:05.09 | Kaiserlich | petemc: thanks! |
| 16:05.10 | wols_ | no, but ssh is |
| 16:05.25 | h3sp4wn | no3sc: It does have the occasional vulnerability but they are usual only local ones |
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| 16:06.12 | no3sc | hmm so *I only have win here at the moment* I use putty to the server. Run screen. And do what I need to? |
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| 16:06.22 | petemc | run irssi |
| 16:06.28 | Isil`Zha | stew: stable |
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| 16:07.40 | stew | Isil`Zha: what is one such package you installed from dotdeb? |
| 16:07.51 | Isil`Zha | stew: php5 |
| 16:08.09 | Solet | is it possible to reinstall the kernel, but not upgrade? like, keep the same version? |
| 16:08.31 | stew | Isil`Zha: can you show us the output of "apt-cache policy php5 libc6" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 16:08.44 | stew | Isil`Zha: why did you install php5 from dotdeb and not from debian? |
| 16:09.02 | stew | Solet: aptitude reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) |
| 16:09.03 | Isil`Zha | stew: at the time i did that there was no php5 available from debian |
| 16:09.09 | no3sc | petemc: Can I rejoin the same irssi session when I shutdown my remote session and goes to another place? |
| 16:09.26 | stew | Isil`Zha: so you installed it when the server was running sarge, and since then you upgraded your system from sarge to etch? |
| 16:09.32 | no3sc | So that I never need to logout from IRC and so? |
| 16:09.37 | stew | no3sc: yes |
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| 16:09.56 | no3sc | stew: Seems like I have to RTFM of screen now then.. |
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| 16:10.08 | HyperDevil | check process cron with pidfile /var/run/cron.pid |
| 16:10.08 | HyperDevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.08 | HyperDevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.08 | HyperDevil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:10.34 | Isil`Zha | stew: yes. i just kept using dotdeb. just until now when i upddated php5 again and it screwed up. i'll get that line first |
| 16:10.35 | HyperDevil | hello huys, does somebody here use monit? |
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| 16:10.56 | wols_ | polls make baby jesus cry HyperDevil |
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| 16:11.31 | HyperDevil | ive got some config problems with it.. cant seems to find the problem anywhere, not even google |
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| 16:11.55 | simonrvn | !tell HyperDevil -about paste |
| 16:11.59 | stew | HyperDevil: what makes you think you have config problems? |
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| 16:12.39 | HyperDevil | stew: ive installed it and it runs out of the box as it is.. when i put a new poller in the config file the service does not start anymore.. |
| 16:12.41 | darrh00 | this page is outdated http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi,anyone kind to update it ? |
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| 16:13.00 | HyperDevil | stew: and the extra poller is a 100% copy of the original site |
| 16:13.12 | HyperDevil | stew: copy paste into the config file |
| 16:13.26 | stew | HyperDevil: do you get an error? |
| 16:13.55 | stew | darrh00: in what way is it outdated? |
| 16:14.06 | HyperDevil | stew: no nothing in the log file either.. it does not even write to the file when i start the daemon with the config changes.. |
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| 16:14.50 | stew | HyperDevil: put your config file into a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 16:15.16 | HyperDevil | stew: ok, one moment |
| 16:15.46 | Isil`Zha | stew: sorry lost connection |
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| 16:16.14 | predder` | how can I determine which nic has the corresponding eth#? |
| 16:17.07 | no3sc | hmm Now I'm using screen. How can I shut down this "session" and continue some time later? |
| 16:17.13 | wols_ | predder`: /msg dpkg z25 |
| 16:17.15 | stew | predder`: look at /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 16:17.30 | stew | no3sc: close the window |
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| 16:17.50 | no3sc | "/close"? |
| 16:17.51 | wols_ | ctrl+ A D I think |
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| 16:17.56 | wols_ | no3sc: no |
| 16:17.56 | HyperDevil | stew: http://pastebin.ca/745678 |
| 16:17.56 | predder` | thanks stew :) |
| 16:17.59 | stew | no3sc: or if you detach from that session and keep ssh connection open, ctrl-a d |
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| 16:18.14 | stew | no3sc: no, i mean just close the putty window to disconnect |
| 16:18.27 | wols_ | no3sc: or press ctrl a d |
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| 16:18.38 | HyperDevil | stew: when i comment out the ssh part it works, when i enable it the crap doesnt work :( |
| 16:18.38 | no3sc | stew: The thing Is I ca't have the session open between moviing from other places :D |
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| 16:19.07 | stew | no3sc: ok |
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| 16:19.09 | no3sc | stew: How do I join the same irssi sessino again? Do I run "screen irssi" again? |
| 16:19.20 | stew | no3sc: run "screen -r" |
| 16:19.26 | no3sc | ok |
| 16:19.45 | wols_ | no3sc: I very much sugget your read the docs of screen |
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| 16:19.53 | Isil`Zha | stew: the result of your command. http://pastebin.ca/745681 even though it might not be as useful any more after my attempts to recover manually. |
| 16:20.23 | no3sc | so ctrl-a +d, then screen-r. I'll try. wols_ Ye I will. Just want to get started =) |
| 16:20.42 | stew | Isil`Zha: you don't have php5 installed from dotdeb, you have php5 installed from debian |
| 16:20.47 | DustyDingo | is there a way to obtain the uptime _before_ the lat reboot? |
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| 16:21.03 | abrotman | DustyDingo: last |
| 16:21.10 | abrotman | or last reboot |
| 16:21.18 | stew | no3sc: you either do "ctrl-a d" or close the putty window to detatch from the screen session. after you have detached from the screen session "screen -r" will reattach |
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| 16:21.51 | Isil`Zha | stew: yes. seems i reinstalled this one already. i can't recall if there are any more packages left though. and i would like to make sure there aren't |
| 16:21.55 | no3sc | Woho I did it =) |
| 16:22.04 | no3sc | Thank you guys |
| 16:22.16 | no3sc | Is it possible to do it with a X session to? |
| 16:22.22 | Solet | Err http://ftp.debian.org etch/main linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12 |
| 16:22.22 | Solet | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.39 | HyperDevil | stew: http://pastebin.ca/745678 |
| 16:22.43 | Solet | aptitude reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) |
| 16:22.45 | Solet | failed |
| 16:22.52 | stew | Solet: yes, 2.6.18-4 was removed from debian becuase it was made obsolete by 2.6.18-5 which fixes some security vulnerabilities |
| 16:23.00 | cahoot | no3sc, X no |
| 16:23.07 | DustyDingo | abrotman: ah, thanks, strange that i wasn't aware of it |
| 16:23.19 | stew | Isil`Zha: you can try "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep dotdeb" |
| 16:23.27 | tt | My screen goes into energy saving mode after 15 minutes. Anyone know how to fix this using cli? I'm really just searching for a command to read the man page to customize it a little. |
| 16:23.33 | stew | HyperDevil: i'd try stracing it |
| 16:23.44 | HyperDevil | stew: when i comment out the ssh part it works, when i enable it the crap doesnt work :( |
| 16:23.56 | Isil`Zha | stew: thank you |
| 16:24.59 | no3sc | cahoot: Is it possible to forward X some other way? |
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| 16:25.34 | cahoot | no3sc, you can forward yse - but not reconnect after closing then connection |
| 16:25.44 | PerfDave | no3sc: You can reconnect to a running X session using NX |
| 16:25.51 | PerfDave | no3sc: Or VNC |
| 16:25.57 | Solet | uh i just tried an apt-get upgrade cause it has a kernel in there to upgrade, and it segfaulted |
| 16:25.58 | no3sc | PerfDave: VNC sucks =) |
| 16:25.59 | PerfDave | Neither of which are *technically* X but hey ;) |
| 16:26.04 | PerfDave | no3sc: Sucks how? |
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| 16:26.27 | no3sc | PerfDave: Everytime 've tried it I have got reallly slow fram rates |
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| 16:26.45 | no3sc | PerfDave: Almost not workable for surfing even |
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| 16:27.07 | PerfDave | no3sc: NX is designed for high-latency connections, it's better than VNC or even rdesktop for that. |
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| 16:27.25 | broklyn | How I can create such graphs? -> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/scaling.png |
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| 16:27.32 | no3sc | PerfDave: Never heard of. I guess 'lll look into it, thanks |
| 16:27.35 | broklyn | or how is this app called? |
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| 16:27.52 | no3sc | In screen, can I detach how many screens I want? |
| 16:28.10 | cahoot | broklyn, thinking of gnuplot? |
| 16:28.11 | PerfDave | no3sc: Probably there's some limit like 1024 of them or something, but in practive yes. |
| 16:28.55 | no3sc | PerfDave: Ye I did not mean unlimited :P But many |
| 16:29.21 | Solet | why would apt-get and aptitude segfault after an apt-get upgrade? |
| 16:29.22 | PerfDave | no3sc: I've got about a dozen in various stages of attachedness right now. |
| 16:29.23 | stew | no3sc: yes, "screen -ls" will list all of the screen sessions, "screen -r NNNN" to attach to a particular number (where NNNN is the pid). or you can name then when you start them with "screen -S name" and resume them with "screen -r name" |
| 16:30.18 | stew | Solet: put the output of "dpkg -l dpkg apt aptitude lib6" into a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 16:31.03 | broklyn | cahoot: mmh.. ok thanks :) |
| 16:31.09 | no3sc | stew: Nice. PerfDave - Did you mean the program NxServLiv? *Found that on sourceforge* |
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| 16:33.56 | no3sc | What does "oss" stand for? |
| 16:34.11 | xand | open sound system |
| 16:34.13 | grub_ | !oss |
| 16:34.13 | dpkg | hmm... oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 16:34.15 | xand | or open source software |
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| 16:34.23 | no3sc | :D |
| 16:34.24 | no3sc | ok |
| 16:34.44 | Solet | stew, will if it dies this time... tried a reboot |
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| 16:35.50 | Solet | seems to be working now, but it's reinstalling the same 2.6.18-4-486 instead of the new one that was mentioned earlier |
| 16:35.50 | no3sc | Could anyone point me to a good and easy FTP-server program that I could use between my laptop and server? It's enough with no GUI |
| 16:36.18 | HyperDevil | vsftpd |
| 16:36.22 | Urigeller | someone knowing the precise difference between the packages linux-headers-$(version) and linux-headers-$(version)-$(arch)? Do I need both to build a custom kernel? |
| 16:36.41 | cahoot | no3sc, ssh /sftp ? |
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| 16:37.10 | ringo999 | hi. i have installed deian etch on my g3 ibook. now im trying to get wifi to work. its supposed to work out of the box. it uses the modules airport/oricono/hermes. iwconfig find the device, but iwlist eth2 scan says: Interface doesnt support scanning: Network is down. Any idea? |
| 16:37.24 | no3sc | cahoot: I open a ssh connection and run sftp? |
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| 16:38.17 | no3sc | Is sftp the server or client or both? |
| 16:38.51 | stew | no3sc: the client |
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| 16:39.24 | Folkert | Hi |
| 16:39.33 | n_np | stew i used its script to stop it but then its still locked, this is cvsnt |
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| 16:40.09 | SexyKen | Hey guys -- anyone use Ghost4Linux before? |
| 16:40.17 | Folkert | I just installed debian but the installer hasn't asked me for a usename or password. So now I am unable to login the system. What can I do? |
| 16:40.19 | stew | n_np: you need to make the init script not fail when it is run by dpkg |
| 16:40.45 | n_np | but how on earth can i do that? |
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| 16:41.08 | SexyKen | Is it possible to use ifconfig to set a gateway address? |
| 16:41.10 | stew | 10:58 < stew> n_np: you can either debug the init script or skip it, if you want to debug it, add "set -x" as the second line of the script, if you want to just skip it, add "exit 0" instead |
| 16:41.21 | n_np | but how is this script run? |
| 16:41.24 | n_np | im running aptitude |
| 16:41.24 | stew | n_np: by 'the init script' i mean /etc/init.d/cvsnt |
| 16:41.28 | n_np | i dont understand how scripts come into play |
| 16:41.41 | n_np | okay so then what must i do as a command with dpkg or with cvsnit? |
| 16:41.47 | no3sc | stew: Do you know any good ftpserver program thats reasonable secure and easy to understand? |
| 16:41.51 | liable | SexyKen: use 'route' |
| 16:41.52 | stew | n_np: its run by /var/lib/dpkg/info/cvsnt.postrm or /var/lib/dpkg/info/cvsnt.prerm |
| 16:42.06 | Ronin | no3sc: vsftpd may be the lesser of the ftp evils |
| 16:42.07 | stew | n_np: vsftp, but why not use sftp? |
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| 16:42.16 | Azar | hello honorables! |
| 16:42.21 | n_np | hmm |
| 16:42.29 | n_np | what does sftp have to do with it?! |
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| 16:42.39 | stew | n_np: sorry, i meant that for someone else |
| 16:42.39 | no3sc | I think he tabbed to little |
| 16:42.41 | no3sc | =) |
| 16:42.51 | stew | no3sc: why not use sftp instead of ftp? |
| 16:43.02 | SexyKen | Do you know what the command is liable? |
| 16:43.04 | no3sc | but you said that sftp was only client? |
| 16:43.33 | stew | no3sc: yes, the server is sshd, which is the same server you are using to login via putty, so if you can login via putty you can use sftpd |
| 16:43.41 | liable | SexyKen: yes, you can too! man route .. it has examples :) |
| 16:43.55 | no3sc | stew: aah. |
| 16:43.57 | Folkert | Please, anyone? |
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| 16:45.30 | stew | Folkert: boot the installer again. then hit alt-f2 to get to a text console, "mkdir /target ; mount /dev/hda1 /target ; chroot /target" then run "passwd" substitude the actual device with your root filesystem for hda1 |
| 16:46.17 | Folkert | And how can I recover the root password? |
| 16:46.21 | helo | i just installed nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-5-i686 and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and now when i try to run xterm (or many other x apps probably) it says libSM.so.6 is too short, and exits |
| 16:46.24 | helo | wth? |
| 16:46.40 | stew | Folkert: you can't recover the root password. this is how you set a new one |
| 16:46.44 | HyperDevil | stew: i have tryed again with different sensors.. everything after that cron does not work |
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| 16:46.46 | Folkert | ok |
| 16:46.58 | stew | HyperDevil: i would try to strace it |
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| 16:47.14 | Folkert | How can I setup a regular user after that? |
| 16:47.22 | stew | Folkert: adduser username |
| 16:47.41 | Folkert | ok, many thanks, I'll try it |
| 16:47.57 | stew | Folkert: though you should probably reboot into your actual debian install to create the new user |
| 16:48.08 | Folkert | ok |
| 16:48.26 | Folkert | bye |
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| 16:49.59 | HardDisk_WP | hi all |
| 16:50.12 | darrh00 | is debian's mailing list available as nntp ,like perl's nntp.perl.org? |
| 16:50.15 | HardDisk_WP | how do I set up a dual-monitor configuration (clone) on my notebook? |
| 16:50.17 | Ace2016 | wols_: i found the reason why i think the proper xgl did not work, i think its the way the nvidia driver was installed, i think it needs to be installed the 'debian way' |
| 16:50.36 | HardDisk_WP | it uses a nvidia geforce 8600 m gt, and i want to use its external vga output for my monitor |
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| 16:51.15 | helo | hmm... when i installed nvidia-kernel-foo, it listed several libraries (libglib, libSM) and all of the links to them, for each saying "is empty, not checked" |
| 16:51.38 | Azar | heck how come I never knew there is a Debian GNU/Linux HOWTO package? |
| 16:51.39 | helo | if i look at the size of the libraries listed, they are like 14-27 bytes |
| 16:51.54 | helo | and all of my x apps are broken |
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| 16:52.30 | Ace2016 | Azar: because you didn't look for it? |
| 16:52.51 | helo | haha.... that 'nvidia one-liner' completely hosed this install |
| 16:53.12 | Azar | helo: because you run Lenny? |
| 16:53.16 | no3sc | stew: How do should the command look like for transfering "foo.bar" from my windows to my server? Because when I'm logged in as myself and run sftp I am on the server and can't access the windows-file-tree? Or am I missing something |
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| 16:53.20 | helo | i run etch |
| 16:53.42 | Azar | helo: how old is your video card? |
| 16:53.59 | darrh00 | no3sc:lftp is nice. |
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| 16:54.13 | helo | 5200 |
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| 16:54.24 | HyperDevil | stew: i will be back in 20 min:) i straced myself a little bit but no success... |
| 16:54.27 | Eulex | helo, a symlink is expected to be just a few bytes. |
| 16:54.27 | stew | no3sc: you would run the sftp client on windows and use it to login to your server |
| 16:54.27 | Azar | helo: aproximately what year of release? |
| 16:54.59 | helo | Eulex: no, the .so that all of the symlinks are to are only a dozen or so bytes |
| 16:55.16 | helo | no clue... |
| 16:55.24 | Eulex | helo, are you sure? and are you sure that those aren't just broken symlinks? |
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| 16:58.03 | Eulex | helo, also, you might want to actually show as the actual errors you get when you try to run X apps. |
| 16:58.04 | no3sc | stew: ok |
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| 17:00.07 | lvh | hi |
| 17:00.14 | lvh | where is the dpkg installed package list again? |
| 17:00.15 | no3sc | stew: hmm, I found alot of different "fan made" versions of sftp. But nothing on only "sftp" Do you know the homepage? |
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| 17:00.22 | lvh | I need to manually see what's in it. |
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| 17:00.32 | Azar | hello Nyle |
| 17:00.37 | Eulex | lvh, dpkg -l packagename |
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| 17:00.56 | lvh | Eulex: no. There's a file that has all the packages and their installed status |
| 17:01.04 | lvh | such as installed, half-installed etc etc |
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| 17:01.11 | CrocoJet | someone knows other package like "top" to monitoring memory, processor, etc ? |
| 17:01.19 | no3sc | stew: Could I use any ftp-client? |
| 17:01.20 | Azar | CrocoJet: ftop? |
| 17:01.27 | CrocoJet | ok, thanks |
| 17:01.46 | Azar | errr htop |
| 17:01.58 | Eulex | lvh, I meant dpkg -L packagename, as I thought you meant what files are part of an installed package. but dpkg -l is what you need. |
| 17:02.18 | Azar | CrocoJet: is htop sorry for mis-spell |
| 17:02.21 | h3sp4wn | lvh: dpkg --get-selections |
| 17:02.23 | lvh | Eulex: no, what I need is a text file that has all the packages on my system and their status |
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| 17:02.34 | Eulex | lvh, why do you need a text file? |
| 17:02.52 | lvh | because a package is broken. |
| 17:02.55 | CrocoJet | ok, no problem |
| 17:03.12 | Eulex | lvh, and? |
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| 17:03.22 | stew | no3sc: you could use any sftp client |
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| 17:03.36 | lvh | it's convinced it's half-installed, however, the installer script currently refuses to install it fully (because it's already fully installed). |
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| 17:03.45 | stew | lvh: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 17:03.50 | lvh | I need to edit the status of the package manually.. |
| 17:03.55 | Trewas | lvh: dpkg --get-selections, and dpkg --set-selections if you have to get another installation to exact same state |
| 17:04.03 | stew | lvh: you don't want to mess with the status file, you want to fix the installer scripts |
| 17:04.06 | lvh | stew: i haven't typed any commands. I was looking for a file name. |
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| 17:04.19 | nooblar100 | my use flags in debian are where? |
| 17:04.20 | Eulex | lvh, no, you need to modify that script manually to exit with a successful status. |
| 17:04.26 | Eulex | nooblar100, noweher. |
| 17:04.28 | Eulex | e |
| 17:04.35 | nooblar100 | ok, then. |
| 17:04.38 | nooblar100 | :) |
| 17:04.38 | lvh | stew: i'm pretty sure I can fix the installer script after I can get my apt working again. |
| 17:04.49 | stew | lvh: what makes you say that apt isn't working? |
| 17:04.50 | pickcoder | what's the dpkg-reconfigure syntax to select an apt mirror? |
| 17:04.59 | stew | pickcoder: there isn't one |
| 17:05.01 | ringo999 | i want to format my ipod to a filesystem that is write compatible with gnu/linux. what do you recommend? |
| 17:05.05 | lvh | stew: because said package is in a half-installed state. |
| 17:05.06 | Eulex | pickcoder, there is none; fix your sources.list. |
| 17:05.13 | pickcoder | stew: I've seen something pasted here |
| 17:05.15 | stew | lvh: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 17:05.27 | lvh | stew: ok. listen once more, carefully: |
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| 17:05.31 | nooblar100 | So how would I set default compile behaviour? |
| 17:05.32 | lvh | stew: I did not type any commands. |
| 17:05.37 | lvh | stew: yet. |
| 17:05.49 | stew | lvh: you mean you were just sitting there, and apt started randomly telling you about some package in a half installed satate? |
| 17:06.01 | lvh | stew: yes! clearly. |
| 17:06.05 | pickcoder | heh |
| 17:06.08 | Eulex | nooblar100, perhaps export CFLAGS in your .bashrc and .bash_profile? but why are you compiling? |
| 17:06.09 | pickcoder | damn gremlins! |
| 17:06.16 | n00bular | through bash. |
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| 17:06.19 | n00bular | I compiling gnash |
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| 17:06.23 | n00bular | I'm |
| 17:06.26 | n00bular | and other things\ |
| 17:06.30 | n00bular | :) |
| 17:06.32 | leOn | hello |
| 17:06.39 | tt | Just a quicke... Command for splitting windows in irssi? |
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| 17:07.04 | Eulex | n00bular, fair enough, there is no gnash in etch. |
| 17:07.10 | stew | lvh: can you show me the output that randomly appeared on your screen when you didn't type any commands? |
| 17:07.15 | pickcoder | lvh: you were doing _something_ to get apt to start an install |
| 17:07.23 | lvh | pickcoder: nope, that was dpkg |
| 17:07.33 | leOn | can anyone point me out a telephony application, for operating a real phone line, included in debian ? |
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| 17:08.17 | pengol | hi there ... In a shell script how do i portably know which file a symlink poin to? |
| 17:08.30 | n00bular | forgive me if I think it's odd that people ask linux users why they're compiliing. but that's the point of linux it's open source. |
| 17:08.37 | leOn | like calling and receiving calls, using just the modem and sound card |
| 17:08.42 | Isil`Zha | how should i use dpkg --set-selections? i fail to interpret the man pages' instructions |
| 17:08.46 | stew | pengol: "readlink /path/to/symlink" you may want "readlink -f /path/to/symlink' |
| 17:08.50 | lvh | Isil`Zha: easy |
| 17:08.57 | lvh | Isil`Zha: dpkg --set-selections package-name state |
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| 17:09.10 | pickcoder | lvh: how did dpkg magically run itself? |
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| 17:09.25 | stew | Isil`Zha: no, echo "packagename state" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 17:09.26 | Isil`Zha | lvh: i tried that. i tells me --set-selections doesn't take parameters |
| 17:09.26 | apt_get | Hi |
| 17:09.31 | lvh | pickcoder: dpkg didn't. apt did :P |
| 17:09.39 | stew | lvh: what was the output? |
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| 17:09.45 | Isil`Zha | stew: i see. thank you |
| 17:10.20 | lvh | stew: well, the perl package dies due to a race condition somewhere at the end (broken pipe). |
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| 17:10.29 | stew | lvh: what was the output? |
| 17:10.30 | pengol | stew: thanks |
| 17:10.39 | MikeSeth | im tempted to say.. things.. about perl |
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| 17:10.44 | MikeSeth | but I won't |
| 17:10.48 | pickcoder | lvh: stop providing vague clues and put the output of the error in a pastebin |
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| 17:10.52 | lvh | stew: I mainly want my systme to be convinced there IS no perl package (this is what i've been asking for the past half hour) so I can install a package which i know works. |
| 17:11.20 | lvh | I have solved this problem a few days ago (identical). |
| 17:11.23 | stew | lvh: you don't want to convice your system that ther is no perl package, otherwise dpkg won't work at all |
| 17:11.43 | Eulex | lvh, and you've gotten the solution given to you. fix the script that is failing. |
| 17:11.43 | lvh | stew: being convinced there is no perl != no perl |
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| 17:12.02 | lvh | ok, nvm, I'll just find the file and come back when I've done the impossible |
| 17:12.40 | pickcoder | or when packages magically stop installing properly |
| 17:13.06 | apt_get | When "/lib/udev/write_net_rules" run, the "z25_persistent-net.rules" file is created, or updated... |
| 17:13.07 | apt_get | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.10 | pickcoder | kernel.org is really slow |
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| 17:13.36 | mikefoo | Anyone know off hand how I can discard of emails over a certain score in spamassassin? |
| 17:13.40 | pickcoder | apt_get: edit it before.. it won't change if the device IDs are consistent |
| 17:13.55 | HyperDevil | stew: any luck with strace? |
| 17:14.08 | pickcoder | s/before/before you reboot |
| 17:14.14 | Ronin | i guess lvh is suffering from ghost in the machine? |
| 17:14.34 | pickcoder | Ronin: who knows.. vague clues lead to confusion |
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| 17:15.42 | anhadikal | hi |
| 17:15.50 | apt_get | pickcoder: I want run a script(i create), that read z25_persistent-net.rules and edit automaticaly.., but i need to run the script before write_net generates it, or befores udev start right interfaces |
| 17:16.51 | apt_get | like: have eth0 and eth1. eth1 broken, then I remove it, and when restart, my script see that the MAC dont exist anymore, and clean the slots, in z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 17:17.38 | n00bular | :)ls |
| 17:17.46 | anhadikal | is there any way to run vino as root? i want kontroll user from remote pc over vnc ... |
| 17:17.48 | n_np | stew should i just replace set -x with error 0? |
| 17:18.00 | anhadikal | ? |
| 17:18.08 | stew | n_np: sure |
| 17:18.15 | stew | HyperDevil: i haven't run it recently |
| 17:18.20 | pickcoder | apt_get: I'm not that keen on udev |
| 17:18.32 | pickcoder | sounds like you want hotplug control |
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| 17:18.48 | pickcoder | you should be able to do that with udev |
| 17:18.51 | pickcoder | but I have no clue how |
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| 17:19.24 | pickcoder | I prefer to use reliable network hardware and keep static entries in the z25 rules |
| 17:19.37 | tempboy | hi all. i have a box with 2 nics. i want one to be WAN and the other to be LAN. i'm pretty much trying to use the box as a router and dole out ip addresses to computers on LAN side |
| 17:19.43 | tempboy | what are the proper steps to do so? |
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| 17:20.22 | apt_get | hmmm |
| 17:20.25 | anhadikal | can someone help me? |
| 17:20.30 | apt_get | yes I do |
| 17:20.37 | ringo999 | how can i mount my hfs+ ipod so its writeable. i heard i have to turn of journaling before... |
| 17:20.43 | n_np | what is the command to reconfigure a package? |
| 17:20.55 | stew | n_np: dpkg-reconfigure packagename |
| 17:20.59 | n_np | tnx |
| 17:21.01 | pickcoder | grr.. 5K/sec on kernel.org |
| 17:21.05 | apt_get | but, if a have 50 clients, how to fix a local interface problem, remotly? |
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| 17:21.48 | apt_get | i want a check, if reboot computer, the script compare MAC in hardware and in Z25... if dont exist in hardware, cleans z25 entry |
| 17:22.20 | apt_get | i finish the script... now, need to know where put it |
| 17:22.24 | pickcoder | apt_get: so you want it to swap eth naming with the new device when it's plugged in? |
| 17:22.34 | apt_get | inside /lib/udev/write_net_rules |
| 17:22.40 | apt_get | or where |
| 17:23.09 | apt_get | if eth1 broken in replaced.... free z25 entry about eth1... |
| 17:23.14 | \amethyst | apt_get: that's too late... that will affect the next boot but not this one, since the persistent net generator runs after the persistent net rules |
| 17:23.24 | apt_get | obvious, new card automaticaly go to be eth1, |
| 17:23.51 | apt_get | hmmm |
| 17:23.51 | pickcoder | apt_get: only if the existing eth1 is removed from z25, which is what I was getting at |
| 17:23.58 | \amethyst | apt_get: you want to run it before udev |
| 17:24.15 | apt_get | hmm |
| 17:24.16 | apt_get | ok |
| 17:24.19 | fribuntu | Does anyone know how to enable LVM over dm-crypt during the initial installaion phase for Debian 4.0r1? |
| 17:24.48 | \amethyst | apt_get: maybe early in /etc/init.d/udev (after "start)" though) |
| 17:25.12 | apt_get | \amethyst: i will try some things... thanks about |
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| 17:27.47 | lvh | fixed. For the record: convincing dkpg there is no perl, does not break dpkg. |
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| 17:31.00 | abrotman | lvh: you can't lie to dpkg! |
| 17:31.03 | cydork | !bless lvh |
| 17:31.04 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child lvh, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
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| 17:31.16 | lvh | cydork: too late |
| 17:31.30 | lvh | dpkg needs a !begforforgiveness |
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| 17:31.55 | lvh | abrotman: thats like saying you can't lie to the government. You can't, but everyone does |
| 17:31.59 | abrotman | !sorry |
| 17:31.59 | dpkg | Don't be sorry...but if you ever go against the Debian Family again... |
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| 17:32.21 | databuddy | new hdd time <3333333 |
| 17:32.28 | ben_goodger | (he)**3 |
| 17:32.39 | stew | lvh: for the record, there are much safer ways of doing the things you are trying to do to your system |
| 17:32.39 | lvh | damn, i did the same thing last week |
| 17:33.12 | lvh | stew: true, but people _sometimes_ know exactly what they're doing |
| 17:33.13 | stew | lvh: and although everyone lies. since you have decided to lie to us, you are going to find that we become less helpful to you |
| 17:33.38 | lvh | knowing how dpkg works and remembering where it stores that data in a text file are two entirely diffrent things |
| 17:33.43 | lvh | I didn't lie to you. I lied to dpkg :) |
| 17:33.47 | tempboy | abrotman, sup |
| 17:33.48 | stew | lvh: you lied to me |
| 17:33.53 | lvh | stew: quote |
| 17:34.22 | stew | < stew> lvh: you mean you were just sitting there, and apt started randomly telling you about some package in a half installed satate? < lvh> stew: yes! clearly |
| 17:34.29 | anhadikal | how can i prohibit, that user can modify configuration of vino (gnome vnc server) |
| 17:34.32 | anhadikal | ? |
| 17:34.33 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.33 | lvh | stew: that was sarcasm, hardly lies |
| 17:34.36 | abrotman | tempboy: hi |
| 17:34.40 | lvh | stew: and it wasnt htat far for the trurth |
| 17:34.46 | lvh | stew: **I** did not type any commands |
| 17:34.58 | tempboy | abrotman, i would like to setup my box as a router. eth0=wan, eth1=lan what is the proper way to do this? |
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| 17:35.13 | abrotman | ipmasq is an easy way |
| 17:35.14 | stew | lvh: anyway, i think you'll find that if you work with us, you'll end up with better results |
| 17:35.19 | lvh | stew: if I knew how this system got hosed in the first place (I'm pretty sure by whom) |
| 17:35.26 | lvh | stew: you were asking me for data i couldn't possibly provide |
| 17:35.38 | lvh | stew: "what commands did you type"... errr apt-get -f install and it died on me? |
| 17:35.57 | stew | lvh: i was asking for what command you typed that told you that a package was half installed, and the output that contained the message that said a pacakge that half installed |
| 17:36.04 | tempboy | abrotman, ok. looking that up now |
| 17:36.12 | lvh | stew: you'll find that if you work with me, i'll end up taking less of your time (ie: give me the damn file name) |
| 17:36.14 | stew | lvh: yes, "apt-get -f install" would have been a good response, along with the actual output |
| 17:36.39 | madclicker | whats with ssh attacks today |
| 17:36.40 | madclicker | ? |
| 17:36.45 | Ronin | madclicker: today? heh |
| 17:36.51 | lvh | stew: no it wouldn't: "what did you type before that" "nothing" "of course you did people don't JUST decide to add the -f flag" |
| 17:36.55 | stew | lvh: i'd be doing you a disservice by helping you to the wrong solutions to your problems just to get you to take less of my time |
| 17:37.06 | abrotman | madclicker: new to the internet? |
| 17:37.07 | lvh | poor me. |
| 17:37.17 | madclicker | Ronin, i'm getting denyhosts blocks every half an hour |
| 17:37.38 | madclicker | abrotman, i had them but not this rapid as today |
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| 17:37.47 | abrotman | madclicker: fail2ban |
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| 17:38.02 | abrotman | heh |
| 17:38.55 | abrotman | madclicker: it seems mildly more distributed .. but this has been going on for .. 2? years |
| 17:38.58 | madclicker | abrotman, denyhosts |
| 17:39.23 | anhadikal | hmm |
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| 17:39.37 | madclicker | abrotman, i've been running denyhosts from first port of sarge, but never seen this type of a attack |
| 17:39.47 | abrotman | guess you weren't paying attention :) |
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| 17:40.05 | madclicker | nahh, i get mail notices from 5 servers |
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| 17:40.13 | SexyKen | If I need to transfer 160gb and we're transferring it at 2mb/sec -- how long does it take? |
| 17:40.28 | madclicker | i guess i am popular today |
| 17:40.33 | vladimir_e | anyone has pointers to documentation about how to run different gcc versions? |
| 17:40.38 | Nyle_ | SexyKen, thats horrible |
| 17:40.48 | \amethyst | SexyKen: divide 160gb by 2mb/sec |
| 17:40.49 | Nyle_ | SexyKen, you going through usb1.1? |
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| 17:41.07 | anhadikal | can someone help me? |
| 17:41.12 | streuner | vladimir_e: /msg dpkg gcc |
| 17:41.17 | Nyle_ | SexyKen, it shouldn't be this slow |
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| 17:41.49 | SexyKen | Going over the net |
| 17:41.57 | tempboy | abrotman, if you were to use something like ipcop instead of ipmasq would you let your debian box be dhcp server or ipcop? |
| 17:42.04 | tempboy | which is better? |
| 17:42.08 | tdrusk | I am running Ubuntu Studio right now. I really want to use Debian, because I find it faster. I want to run XFCE, Audacity, and Hydrogen. I will also want to option to boot into the realtime kernel. Is this all possible? |
| 17:42.12 | abrotman | tempboy: up to you |
| 17:42.14 | pengol | hi there how do I put the standard output of a command in a makefile variable? |
| 17:42.28 | \amethyst | SexyKen: units '160 GB / (2 MB/sec)' 'hours' => 22.222222 |
| 17:42.31 | tempboy | abrotman, what would you do? |
| 17:42.32 | abrotman | tdrusk: the first three .. yes .. the kernel you could compile yourself |
| 17:42.40 | abrotman | tempboy: ipmasq most likely |
| 17:42.53 | tempboy | ok. googling it now |
| 17:42.59 | abrotman | !ipmasq |
| 17:43.00 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 17:43.07 | vladimir_e | streuner: thnx, that helped. Do you know where it is documented? I would like to read up! |
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| 17:43.47 | streuner | vladimir_e: you could as many gcc compilers till you HD is full |
| 17:44.05 | tdrusk | abrotman: I have never compiled a kernel properly before. If I can get the realtime kernel to work with hibernate and suspend I will be great without any other kernel. How hard is it to compile the kernel. I saw a guide for it on debian forums. Will that give me everything I need? |
| 17:44.14 | streuner | vladimir_e: installed*, what kind of documentation you want? |
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| 17:45.20 | vladimir_e | streuner: well I would just like to know what the default behaviour is when you install an older version |
| 17:45.26 | n00bular | is debian gcc the same as FSF gcc? |
| 17:45.43 | streuner | !info gcc |
| 17:45.47 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.2.1-6 (sid), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 28 kB |
| 17:46.00 | xand | n00bular: it's gcc so yes |
| 17:46.11 | n00bular | k. |
| 17:46.13 | xand | g stands for gnu |
| 17:46.14 | streuner | vladimir_e: /usr/bin/gcc is just a symlink which point to any gcc compiler you have installed |
| 17:46.42 | vladimir_e | streuner: and installing an older version will change the symlink? |
| 17:46.59 | streuner | vladimir_e: if you want compile something with a different compiler just "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-$whatever" |
| 17:47.03 | pengol | is it possible to put the standard output of a command in a makefile variable? |
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| 17:48.02 | streuner | vladimir_e: no idea, find out yourself |
| 17:48.23 | streuner | vladimir_e: if you install newer versions it happens, never installed an older version |
| 17:48.48 | vladimir_e | thnks streuner, will come back with that info (running Ubuntu though) |
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| 17:48.58 | streuner | !ubuntu |
| 17:48.58 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 17:49.00 | dkr | pengol: I think so, you'll have to look the syntax up yourself, though, since I am drawing a blank |
| 17:49.07 | SexyKen | Hey guys -- I'm running debian one one server, with some customizations to certain daemons and patches, etc. I need to move everything to another server. The hardware is very similar. Only difference is amount of ram and CPU. What's the best way to move this, without having to do a reinstall and configure everything over again. |
| 17:49.29 | anhadikal | that is not fair |
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| 17:49.53 | Skaag | hm... I had Grub installed on Sarge, i've completed the upgrade to Etch just now, I think it installed Lilo but i'm not sure... any way to check? |
| 17:50.05 | pengol | dkr: thanks can't find anything useful |
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| 17:50.27 | vladimir_e | streuner: you're right, sorry |
| 17:50.31 | dkr | Skaag: dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1|strings |
| 17:50.41 | pengol | dkr: $(shell whoami) |
| 17:51.12 | Skaag | dkr: yah, Lilo is now the active bootloader... |
| 17:51.13 | Skaag | thanks for that |
| 17:51.16 | dkr | SexyKen: move the hard disk over? |
| 17:51.28 | SexyKen | We can't take the hard drive. |
| 17:51.34 | Skaag | for some reason the kernel image upgrade did not add the kernel to lilo.conf |
| 17:52.07 | dkr | etch uses grub by default, perhaps the kerenl upgrade scripts don't take the switch to lilo proeprly? |
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| 17:52.29 | streuner | vladimir_e: surely the postinst script take care about... |
| 17:52.31 | Skaag | hm... I did find that strange. I had grub running on this box with sarge... |
| 17:52.40 | Skaag | I don't understand why it decided to use lilo all of a sudden |
| 17:52.45 | vladimir_e | streuner: sure, I'll look into it |
| 17:53.10 | dondelelcaro | Skaag: if you installed it using expert mode, it will use whatever you tell it; contrawise, if someone ran lilo after having installed it, then lilo is what will be used |
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| 17:53.22 | dkr | Skaag: maybe youe sarge had both lilo and grub installed, even though it was using grub, and the etch upgrade saw lilo so assumed that's what you were using... |
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| 17:53.45 | Skaag | I see |
| 17:54.02 | Skaag | how do I fix this situation, uninstall lilo completely, reinstall grub, then reinstall the kernel? |
| 17:54.14 | Skaag | although the lilo installation was successful |
| 17:54.22 | dkr | just install grub, and run grub-install |
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| 17:55.02 | dkr | then /boot/grub/menu.lst should automagically list your available kernels |
| 17:55.07 | Skaag | I see it is not trying to remove lilo |
| 17:56.04 | dkr | no need, it's only a tool, it just doesn't have to run it upon kernel updates if update-grub is there |
| 17:56.05 | Skaag | holy moses, I get this when I run grub-install: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. |
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| 17:56.37 | dkr | maybe it was there leftover from sarge? |
| 17:56.56 | streuner | vladimir_e: well, the gcc postinst just "ln" the package which has to be installed, so older packages just make the same symlink then (in Debian) |
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| 17:57.44 | Skaag | yes probably a leftover |
| 17:57.47 | Skaag | how do I clean this up |
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| 17:58.10 | Skaag | i'm doing aptitude reinstall grub |
| 17:58.12 | Skaag | see if that helps |
| 17:58.16 | Skaag | thanks for the help by the way |
| 17:58.28 | dimir | man, this highligting never stops. |
| 17:58.32 | Skaag | I didn't have this issue last time I upgraded a sarge box to etch |
| 17:59.08 | vladimir_e | streuner:thnx |
| 17:59.15 | streuner | vladimir_e: np |
| 17:59.30 | Eulex | dimir, fix your client to not highlight when your nick is _part_ of a word :P |
| 17:59.43 | dimir | Ye, I could do that. |
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| 18:00.05 | dimir | But I'm not going to. :-) However, I could quickly check if the configuration allows it. |
| 18:00.12 | Skaag | ok it was a pax issue |
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| 18:00.20 | Skaag | fixed it with chpax |
| 18:00.28 | logyati | hello |
| 18:00.32 | dimir | hoi |
| 18:00.52 | dkr | Skaag: don't know what that is, but glad you got it worked out. :) |
| 18:00.54 | logyati | hello |
| 18:00.57 | Skaag | I'm moving from a custom kernel back to 2.6.18-5, previous one had grsecurity + pax |
| 18:01.10 | logyati | is there a voice recognition program (working) for linux? |
| 18:01.20 | Skaag | dkr: it's some kernel patch to protect against buffer overflow attacks and such |
| 18:01.22 | dkr | logyati: sphynx |
| 18:01.24 | dimir | logyati: festival |
| 18:01.24 | FunctorSalad | does anyone know what this could be? aptitude becomes unresponsive after I have installed something and aptitude has reloaded (using konsole, if that makes any difference) |
| 18:01.35 | FunctorSalad | (always) |
| 18:01.37 | dkr | dimir: thats a text to speech program, he wants the other way around, :) |
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| 18:01.44 | n00bular | Sphinx website says it's for speech scientists |
| 18:01.45 | dimir | Oh, sorry then. ;) |
| 18:01.53 | dkr | er, sphinx, not sphynx |
| 18:01.57 | Skaag | weird, I run grub-install /dev/sda but menu.lst does not update with the new kernels |
| 18:02.31 | dkr | Skaag: grub-install writes it to mbr, update-grub is the one that updates menu-lst with kernel info I think |
| 18:02.42 | Skaag | ah ok |
| 18:02.43 | logyati | is it voice recognition or text2speech? |
| 18:03.03 | dkr | logyati: festival is text to speech, sphinx is voice recognition |
| 18:03.30 | logyati | dkr, can i use sphinx to control my desktop? |
| 18:04.05 | dkr | logyati: perlbox is an app to do that (it uses sphinx for the recognition aprt, and also front ends festival to say stuff, too) |
| 18:04.37 | dimir | Which desktop environment supports it? |
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| 18:04.53 | dkr | logyati: oh, perlbox not in debian, though. as per my aptitude search. it's at perlbox.org though |
| 18:05.05 | Skaag | dkr: how do I make sure the new kernel is the default? |
| 18:05.07 | dkr | it's a pretyy simple app |
| 18:05.11 | Skaag | the title is very long |
| 18:05.28 | dimir | Skaag: how about opening the configuration file and making sure? |
| 18:05.28 | logyati | hmmm... but do you know another program to control my desk using voice? |
| 18:05.43 | Skaag | dimir: Right now default is "saved" |
| 18:05.43 | dimir | logyati: not much time with linux, eh? |
| 18:05.46 | dkr | logyati: uhm, I think ibm makes one also |
| 18:05.53 | logyati | skaag, see /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 18:05.54 | Skaag | how do I point it to a specific entry |
| 18:05.59 | Skaag | yes i'm editing that file |
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| 18:06.06 | Skaag | default saved |
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| 18:06.13 | Skaag | I want to point it to the first kernel, is it numeric, or by name |
| 18:06.16 | logyati | dimir, i use linux since 1996 :) |
| 18:06.22 | dkr | Skaag: that means whichever you choose will be saved as default for next boot |
| 18:06.29 | Skaag | I'm not local... |
| 18:06.30 | logyati | dimir, but i never tried this kind of thing |
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| 18:06.34 | Skaag | :-) |
| 18:06.35 | dkr | Skaag: first is default anyway |
| 18:06.40 | Skaag | ah cool |
| 18:06.44 | Skaag | hope it will work |
| 18:06.44 | dkr | grub-set-default 0 |
| 18:06.50 | dimir | logyati: then how come you even ask if such thing is available and _works_ :-D |
| 18:06.56 | logyati | dimir, no no, i tried before, when i used red hat marumbi, and kvoicecontrol |
| 18:07.04 | Solet | is there a command to show a machines record up time? |
| 18:07.11 | logyati | dimir, cos i googled and i couldnt find it... |
| 18:07.12 | dimir | logyati: OK, nevermind. ;) |
| 18:07.32 | dkr | Solet: there is an app you can install to do so. the name eludes me at the moment, but aptitude search might bring it up |
| 18:07.32 | logyati | dimir, all i find is cvoicecontrol (doesnt work) and xvoice (same) |
| 18:08.06 | dimir | That's how it should be! :-D |
| 18:08.31 | dkr | logyati: "doesn't work" is a pretty bold statement. do you just mean they don't work well? (never tried those myself) |
| 18:08.31 | folken | Solet: install uptimed |
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| 18:09.18 | Solet | dkr: good call ^_^ apparently there are several uptimed looks like it might be what i want. tho if this machine doesnt hit 24 hours, i'm not going to bother installing it. it likes to kpanic. tho with the kernel reinstall i'm hoping i fixed it |
| 18:09.35 | dkr | one advantage to sphinx2 I am aware of, is that it works decently without having to train it. (command and control is a lot easier to recognize commands since the list of word choices is so small) much easier than random word dictation |
| 18:10.21 | dkr | Solet: random kernel panics are a good sign of bad hardware |
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| 18:10.45 | Skaag | dkr: it could also mean the end of the world is near ;-) |
| 18:10.59 | dkr | lots of cosmic rays bombarding us and flipping bits? ;) |
| 18:11.01 | pengol | p/quit |
| 18:11.14 | Solet | dkr, the machine was fine before (asside from teh fact that it ran windows 98) |
| 18:11.22 | Solet | all i can think is that it could be a bad eth card |
| 18:11.47 | Solet | when it boots ACPI bitches about one of the eth cards, tho i dont get why ACPI is even touching the eth cards |
| 18:12.13 | Eulex | is there a c++ compiler in debian that does not accept gnu extensions to c++? |
| 18:12.14 | dkr | many have a feature whereby you can power on the system with a special packet sent to nic |
| 18:12.46 | Solet | this machine is a gateway/router, should never be off :P |
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| 18:13.00 | dkr | Eulex: there are some options to g++ for various compliance modes |
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| 18:13.17 | Solet | is there anything that ACPI does that a server would need? |
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| 18:13.48 | Eulex | dkr, I know, and I already do that. I want to try my code with some other compiler too if possible, though. |
| 18:15.06 | Eulex | dkr, basically, I want something like tcc, but for c++ code, just for testing my code with another compiler. |
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| 18:17.06 | dkr | last I used something other than gcc was Sun's c++ compiler around 10 years ago. heh :) |
| 18:17.26 | Eulex | :) |
| 18:17.27 | logyati | dkr, Can't locate Tk.pm in @INC running perlbox |
| 18:17.36 | Eulex | hmm, i++ might actually be an option for me... |
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| 18:17.41 | dkr | logyati: so install Tk :) |
| 18:17.54 | h3sp4wn | Eulex: you can get sunstudio for linux free as in beer also |
| 18:18.07 | dkr | logyati: aptitude install libtk-perl |
| 18:18.10 | Eulex | h3sp4wn, oh |
| 18:18.10 | michiel__ | hi, is there a command to clear a file? |
| 18:18.15 | logyati | dkr, i have perl-tk package installed |
| 18:18.20 | logyati | hmm |
| 18:18.27 | michiel__ | i mean not removing the file |
| 18:18.27 | Eulex | michiel__, clear? you can rm it and touch it. |
| 18:18.36 | dkr | michiel__: :>file would make it empty... |
| 18:18.36 | michiel__ | then the rights are lost |
| 18:18.38 | Solet | is there a way to keep the terminal from blanking out when idle? so that if i get another kpanic, i can see what the message is and copy it down to see if it's the same every time? |
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| 18:19.05 | dkr | : is the null command, so that redirects an empty string into the file |
| 18:19.19 | abrotman | !blank |
| 18:19.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, blank is a budget screensaver for linux. To turn it off, run 'setterm -blank 0'. At the same time, you may want to add that to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
| 18:19.30 | Eulex | michiel__, should be easy to create a small program that does that. just open the file for write (not update) and close it again. |
| 18:19.44 | michiel__ | sure |
| 18:19.52 | Eulex | michiel__, oh. I just realized that you can probably do a simple echo "" > filename |
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| 18:20.03 | dkr | Eulex: :>file is even quicker :) |
| 18:20.06 | abrotman | Eulex: cat /dev/null > file |
| 18:20.19 | elenril | i was told that ifconfig is obsolete and i should use ip instead |
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| 18:20.29 | Eulex | dkr, oh |
| 18:20.35 | michiel__ | dkr: so how is it used >filename? |
| 18:20.43 | dkr | echo would add a newline by default usually |
| 18:20.48 | elenril | how much truth is in that |
| 18:20.52 | dkr | michiel__: : > file |
| 18:20.52 | Eulex | dkr, is : portable or is it a bashism? |
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| 18:21.48 | stew | elenril: there is truth in it. but it has been the case for many years, and not really affecting anything |
| 18:21.53 | dkr | Eulex: well, I use it in absh or in tcsh. : might even be from bourne shell, nto sure |
| 18:22.00 | stew | although ifupdown in experimental uses ip now |
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| 18:22.19 | Eulex | dkr, yeah, just tested it here and it worked in both bash and zsh. |
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| 18:22.40 | dkr | elenril: it's not really obsoleted by it, just that you can do a whole lot more with ip ( most people don't need to do a lot more, though) |
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| 18:23.01 | Solet | abrotman, when it says to the end of bootmisc.sh, shouldnt it go at the end of the do_start() function? |
| 18:23.02 | digx_ | how can I get sshd to not resolve hosts? |
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| 18:23.25 | dkr | digx_: edit the config file to tell it not to. how else do you control software? :) |
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| 18:23.47 | elenril | dkr, well i was told that ifconfig doesn't really show things as they are |
| 18:24.12 | elenril | i would learn to use ip, but it doesn't seem to use /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:24.49 | dkr | elenril: debian wouldn't be including it if it was broken(displaying false info) |
| 18:25.01 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 18:25.41 | Eulex | elenril, right, ip isn't what is reading that file. |
| 18:25.59 | Eulex | elenril, neither is it ifconfig. |
| 18:26.40 | elenril | i thought ifup. ifdown and ifconfig is the same package |
| 18:26.41 | stew | elenril: one way that ifconfig "doesn't really show things as they are" is that it only knows how to list the first ip on a given interface, when there can be many |
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| 18:27.15 | dkr | stew: eh? ifconfig shows interface aliases |
| 18:27.33 | HardDisk_WP | can I mount and use a DVD in another computer? |
| 18:27.46 | stew | elenril: no, ifconfig is from a separate package. the newest "ifupdown" package (which contains ifup and ifdown) uses ip instead of ifconfig now. |
| 18:27.53 | stew | dkr: yes, but only one ip for interface |
| 18:27.53 | HardDisk_WP | my laptop's dvd drive is in use, so I want to use the one of my normal PC |
| 18:27.57 | Eulex | elenril, they might be related, but ifconfig still isn't reading that file. |
| 18:28.01 | HardDisk_WP | both run debian lenny and a ssh-server |
| 18:28.01 | stew | dkr: whereas ip shows all ips on an interface |
| 18:28.10 | Bushmills | HardDisk_WP: sure |
| 18:28.27 | HardDisk_WP | how? |
| 18:28.54 | stew | dkr: run "ip a a 1.2.3.4/32 dev eth0" then compare "ifconfig" to "ip a", ifconfig will not list both ip addresses, but ip will |
| 18:28.55 | Bushmills | HardDisk_WP: you gave the answer already... ssh to other computer mount it. can be done in one command, btw |
| 18:29.00 | elenril | so i can just install ifupdown from experimental and be happy :) |
| 18:29.01 | dkr | stew: well, if you just run "ifconfig" it shows them all. :) |
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| 18:29.35 | Bushmills | HardDisk_WP: looks like ssh othercomputer mount /cdrom |
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| 18:29.48 | Solet | how do you stop ipmasq from printing stuff to the screen all the time? |
| 18:29.48 | HardDisk_WP | Bushmills, yep, the disc is already mounted...but I want to use the contents of the disc on the laptop, not on the host computer |
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| 18:30.30 | dkr | Solet: remove any -j LOG iptables rules? |
| 18:31.02 | Solet | LOG prints to the screen? that's silly, why doesnt it print to a file? |
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| 18:31.45 | Bushmills | HardDisk_WP: interesting way may be: use autofs on computer with dvd, and export the automount directory trough nfs. |
| 18:31.50 | dkr | well, it doesn't send to screen, it sends to logging daemon, you can configure logging daemon to not send messages to console( or what degree of messages to ) |
| 18:31.51 | Isil`Zha | what reason might there be if apache refuses to parse .php files only if these are accessed through a virtual host? i can access dummy_host.tld/dummy.php nicely while virt.dummy_host.tld/dummy.php gives me a download popup |
| 18:32.05 | Bushmills | HardDisk_WP: that way, it mounts automatically when you access the nfs export |
| 18:32.17 | HardDisk_WP | hm |
| 18:32.25 | HardDisk_WP | nothing really easy like a ssh tunnel? |
| 18:32.39 | Ranpha1 | Got a stupid question , does rtorrent 0.7.4 support DHt or as it goes by the name peerexchange? i can't find it anywhere |
| 18:32.55 | techouse | how could I compile my own nvidia-kernel if I download nvidia-kernel-source? |
| 18:32.55 | Bushmills | HardDisk_WP: nfs is not complicated. |
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| 18:33.03 | dkr | HardDisk_WP: sftp to the machine with mounted dvd? :) |
| 18:33.27 | Bushmills | HardDisk_WP: yes, sure, works too |
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| 18:33.41 | Bushmills | HardDisk_WP: or mount through sshfs or shfs |
| 18:33.47 | Solet | dkr: how do i make the logging daemon not print the ipmasq gibberish? |
| 18:33.48 | dkr | to export via nfs, you just have to add one line saying what dir to export.... |
| 18:34.45 | dkr | Solet: edit /etc/syslog.conf search for the word console |
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| 18:35.52 | SamuraiDio | hopw do i remove the /var/lib/menus-xdg/xsession/*.desktop from the gdm.conf? |
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| 18:38.00 | _dav | I'm getting a lot of 404's using apt-get against (etch) http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ ..it appears the filenames in /debian/pool/main/l/lighttpd do not exactly match what apt-get tried to access. I'm not sure how to fix or who should be alearted? |
| 18:38.24 | _dav | (lighty being an example, but it happens in several places/apps) |
| 18:38.49 | Bushmills | _dav: how long ago did you do the last apt-get update ? |
| 18:39.16 | _dav | uh, never. it's a comepletly fresh system. i'll do that now, thanks |
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| 18:39.27 | Bushmills | _dav: do it now |
| 18:39.40 | Bushmills | don't confuse update and upgrade |
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| 18:40.40 | Solet | dkr: i dont understand half of this... i'v figured out that /dev/xconsole is the console, but all the stuff before it (daemon.*;mail.*;news.crit;news.err;news.notice;*.=debug;*.=info;*.=notices;*.=warn) i get that they're all different types of messages, but which do i change to exclude ipmasq stuff? |
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| 18:40.48 | ben_goodger | does anyone know why my memory stick isn't auto-mounting in lenny64? |
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| 18:41.22 | stew | dkr: no, ifconfig doens't show them all. it only shows one per ip |
| 18:41.33 | stew | dkr: err, one per interface |
| 18:41.38 | SamuraiDio | hopw do i remove the /var/lib/menus-xdg/xsession/*.desktop from the gdm.conf? |
| 18:41.39 | maxamillion | ben_goodger: do you have usbmount installed? |
| 18:41.52 | ben_goodger | can't think why not |
| 18:42.01 | ben_goodger | but maddeningly, no |
| 18:42.10 | maxamillion | ben_goodger: also make sure you have pmount installed |
| 18:42.10 | ben_goodger | must be some abberation in the installer |
| 18:42.11 | ben_goodger | thanks |
| 18:42.12 | Bushmills | ben_goodger: what is supposed to automount it? a GUI like kde or gnome, or a daemon sitting in your mem, which automounts the stick also without GUI? |
| 18:42.32 | dkr | stew: well, I have 8 ip addresses for me firewall's external interface and ifconfig shows them all when I run it, :) |
| 18:42.58 | stew | dkr: http://paste.debian.net/40425 |
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| 18:43.30 | dkr | stew: note that i said when I run "ifconfig", not "ifconfig eth0" ;) |
| 18:43.35 | stew | dkr: show me the output of "ifconfig", I'm guessing it will show 8 different interfaces (7 of them bian virtual interfaces) |
| 18:43.46 | apt_get | \amethyst: ok udev will function |
| 18:44.00 | apt_get | \amethyst: ok udev will serv |
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| 18:44.19 | ben_goodger | I think we need some more detailed tasks |
| 18:44.37 | dkr | stew: yeah. I woudln' describe eth0 as a different interface than eth0:1 though, it's just an alias for the same interface |
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| 18:45.11 | stew | dkr: http://paste.debian.net/40426 here is "ip a" and "ifconfig -a" note that 10.2.7.78 doesn't appear anywhere in the output of ifconfig, but shows up as a second ip in "ip a" |
| 18:45.44 | _dav | Bushmills: that was it (figures it was D.U.E.). THanks. This is the first time I've had to work debian on a fresh minimal VPS ...thanks |
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| 18:46.41 | stew | 13:28 < stew> dkr: run "ip a a 1.2.3.4/32 dev eth0" then compare "ifconfig" to "ip a", ifconfig will not list both ip addresses, but ip will |
| 18:46.48 | dkr | stew: how do you assign a second ip to an interface without using an interface alias? |
| 18:47.06 | stew | dkr: "ip addr add 1.2.3.4/32 dev eth0" |
| 18:47.57 | Caelum | how do I send an alt+tab through vnc? |
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| 18:49.03 | barbadillo_ | hi all |
| 18:49.09 | dkr | stew: I see. I didn't know that was possible. now it makes sense. |
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| 18:49.31 | barbadillo_ | my apt says that i can't install a package becuase it overwrites a file from another package |
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| 18:49.50 | barbadillo_ | but i can't also uninstall the other package |
| 18:49.58 | stew | dkr: this is how zeroconf adds addresses as well, so if you have zeroconf installed and run dhclient, there will be no way to know what address you got from dhclient using ifconfig, since all ifconfig will show you is the zeroconf adderess |
| 18:50.31 | stew | barbadillo_: show us the output of "apt-cache policy package1 package2" for the two involved packages, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 18:50.38 | Bushmills | barbadillo_: you can force overwrite |
| 18:50.52 | stew | though, in general, you shouldn't ever have to force anything |
| 18:50.53 | Bushmills | barbadillo_: but make sure that that's what you really want |
| 18:50.56 | barbadillo_ | Bushmills: how? |
| 18:51.03 | barbadillo_ | yes it's what i want |
| 18:51.24 | Bushmills | barbadillo_: dpkg --force-overwrite -i package.deb i think |
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| 18:51.31 | stew | barbadillo_: this means that either you are installing two packages that shouldn't be installed together, or it is a pacakging bug |
| 18:51.34 | dkr | stew: I had a strange issue with ifconfig once. my boss entered an ip address as 192.168.010.002 we didn't realized ifconfig let's you use octal for the octets, so 010 was translated to 8 |
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| 18:51.55 | Bushmills | barbadillo_: could be --force-all, better look it up in dpkg man page |
| 18:51.57 | elenril | my friend gets this error when trying to log in to KDE |
| 18:51.58 | elenril | http://www.pastebin.ca/745839 |
| 18:52.14 | thelostbutler | hello folks, i am tasked with setting up a ms-exchange equivalent, with email/calendering functionality being the most important ones. any recommendations? i have come across citadel, opengroupware , any suggestions. comments would be helpful |
| 18:52.14 | stew | don't use --force |
| 18:53.19 | \amethyst | barbadillo_: you could maybe divert one version of the file... what are the packages in question? |
| 18:53.25 | Bushmills | thelostbutler: evolution maybe |
| 18:53.56 | barbadillo_ | \amethyst: mplayer32 and ia32-libs |
| 18:54.15 | stew | barbadillo_: are you running debian? |
| 18:54.23 | thelostbutler | Bushmills: isn't evolution a client ? |
| 18:54.25 | barbadillo_ | stew: ubuntu... |
| 18:54.36 | Bushmills | thelostbutler: yes |
| 18:54.38 | stew | barbadillo_: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 18:54.39 | Solet | what's the log type for ipmasq logs? |
| 18:54.49 | thelostbutler | Bushmills: i am looking at the server side setup |
| 18:55.08 | barbadillo_ | stew: they are quite the same, i have problems with apt not with ubuntu |
| 18:55.18 | stew | barbadillo_: you don't have a problem with debian |
| 18:55.23 | ameyer | !ubuntu |
| 18:55.24 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 18:55.32 | stew | barbadillo_: and no they are not the same at all. debian, for instance, doesn't have a mplayer32 package |
| 18:56.15 | barbadillo_ | stew: i'm searching some help with apt and apt is the debian packaging system |
| 18:56.22 | dkr | I can't fathom what goes through these people's minds that they don't think they should go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 18:56.25 | barbadillo_ | don't care if also ubuntu uses it |
| 18:56.26 | \amethyst | barbadillo_: you can try using dpkg-divert |
| 18:56.30 | Bushmills | barbadillo_: sounds like your problem is not cause by apt, but by the packages you install with it. |
| 18:56.31 | stew | barbadillo_: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 18:56.34 | Ronin | dkr: bad spelling being taught in school? |
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| 18:57.18 | dkr | #fedora for fedora, #perl for perl #apache for apache, is it really so complicated? :) |
| 18:57.26 | barbadillo_ | Bushmills: i'm asking just how to overwrite a file with the pat commands |
| 18:57.31 | barbadillo_ | apt |
| 18:57.39 | stew | barbadillo_: i'm sorry, we are unable to help you, but you are asking about packages which ahve nothing to do with debian. you are asking about ubuntu packages. |
| 18:58.10 | stew | barbadillo_: in general, you don't want to overwrite a file. this is an indication that you are using packages not meant for your system or pacakges with bugs |
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| 18:58.33 | jelly-home | (or using unstable and not knowing better) |
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| 18:58.46 | \amethyst | does not work how? |
| 18:58.47 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 18:59.38 | barbadillo_ | stew: ok thanks anyway |
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| 19:00.31 | lyakh | why don't I see contents of /home/user/public_html/index.html under http://host/~user on etch? |
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| 19:00.54 | lyakh | in error.log it says: File does not exist: /var/www/~user |
| 19:01.01 | elenril | can anyone explain to me how mapping stanza in /etc/network/interfaces works |
| 19:01.05 | stew | lyakh: a2enmod userdir |
| 19:01.12 | elenril | manpage isn't really helpful |
| 19:01.16 | Bushmills | lyakh: apache2? |
| 19:01.17 | Hobbes-- | Hi. You know the strategy that some systems use to handle directories with very many files, the one where all the files that start with a are in a subdirectory called a, all the b* files are in a subdirectory called b, etc? What is this strategy called? |
| 19:01.24 | barbadillo_ | anyway it's going okay with Bushmills help about the dpkg command, that is not properly an ubuntu software |
| 19:01.25 | lyakh | Bushmills: yes |
| 19:01.56 | Bushmills | enable mod userdir by linking into /etc/apache2/mods-enabled |
| 19:02.13 | stew | no, enable userdir mod by running "a2enmod userdir" |
| 19:02.29 | lyakh | stew, thanks it worked... |
| 19:02.39 | lyakh | why? |
| 19:02.57 | lyakh | in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf looked ok |
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| 19:03.07 | stew | lyakh: why what? |
| 19:03.17 | lyakh | it included the necessary *.load and *.conf |
| 19:03.25 | Bushmills | stew, agree, a2enmod is better |
| 19:03.56 | stew | lyakh: you editied apache2.conf? by default it wouldnt' |
| 19:04.26 | lyakh | stew, not that part |
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| 19:04.52 | lyakh | it had: |
| 19:04.53 | lyakh | Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load |
| 19:04.53 | lyakh | Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf |
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| 19:05.14 | stew | lyakh: yes, a2enmod added those files to mods-enabled. before they were only in mods-available |
| 19:05.18 | lyakh | ahhh! ok, I'm blind |
| 19:05.28 | lyakh | enabled != available |
| 19:05.31 | lyakh | thanks! |
| 19:06.34 | tt | Anyone know a program for managing a bluetooth connection to my mobile phone? Just for transfering files etc... No syncing or that kind of thing and no kde/gnome dependencies. |
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| 19:07.05 | bahadunn | lyakh: you should read /usr/share/doc/apache2*/* to know how debian has set up apache |
| 19:07.29 | bahadunn | lyakh: then you will understand the structure and be able to administer the server really easily |
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| 19:08.01 | xsdg | tt: cat + stty? </unhelpful-response> |
| 19:08.04 | lyakh | bahadunn, thanks, I'll have a look |
| 19:08.12 | xsdg | tt: but no, I don't. Good luck |
| 19:08.29 | lyakh | tt: one moment... |
| 19:08.31 | tt | xsdg: I have not idea what you just said. |
| 19:08.50 | tt | cat + stty |
| 19:08.52 | Solet | dkr: i cant find the message type i want to exclude to get ipmasq logs off of the xconsole anywhere :( i'm guessing they're included because of *.=notice or *.=info, but i dont know what facility to specify so that i can exclude them |
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| 19:09.20 | dkr | Solet: just remove all notice and info? |
| 19:09.48 | lyakh | tt: I did just that a couple of days ago, and made notes how... just have to find them... |
| 19:09.54 | Solet | but i dont think i want -all- notices and infos removed. |
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| 19:10.36 | dkr | Solet: then make another entry that sends just those to /dev/null? and leaves * to console |
| 19:11.10 | Solet | yeah, that's the thing, what's the facility for the messages that come from ipmasq? |
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| 19:11.30 | ben_goodger | hello again |
| 19:11.49 | ben_goodger | my USB stick is still not being automounted despite me installing pmount and usbmount |
| 19:12.10 | ben_goodger | and rebooting |
| 19:12.27 | wols_ | !ivman |
| 19:12.28 | dpkg | hmm... ivman is an alternative to gnome-volume-manager that uses dbus and hal to be notified (upon other things) about when volumes are attached and detached allowing you to auto-mount or run scripts. http://ivman.sf.net. |
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| 19:13.00 | ben_goodger | this is silly |
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| 19:13.09 | Solet | if i knew the facility for the ipmasq messages i could just specify !ipmasqfacility.notice; and it would give me all notices except those from ipmasq, but i dont know what facility they come from |
| 19:13.13 | ben_goodger | everything worked perfectly on etch and in july |
| 19:13.20 | lyakh | tt: sdptool browse <bt-addr> gives you info about available channels on your phone... looking for more |
| 19:13.31 | ben_goodger | suddenly I can't run fspot, everything runs like crap, and things aren't mounted for some reason |
| 19:13.34 | drbrown | I am trying to move a cf install of debian from one machine to another, and am having problems getting the NIC to work. It is an 8139 chipset and the module is loaded. The interface will not come up though. I get No such device. Is there a howto on this, or where do I proceed from here. |
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| 19:14.10 | wols_ | drbrown: ifconfig -a. could be udev chnaged intreface names since the MAC changed |
| 19:14.26 | wols_ | so there is no eth0 anymore but eth1. if so: /msg dpkg z25 |
| 19:14.57 | ben_goodger | and why has the base system section in synaptic been reduced to two packages? |
| 19:15.23 | wols_ | since etch there is no base anymore iirc |
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| 19:15.39 | ben_goodger | ok... |
| 19:15.40 | drbrown | thanks, how would I change the device name???? |
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| 19:15.51 | drbrown | I have found the NIC |
| 19:15.53 | wols_ | I just told you |
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| 19:16.46 | lyakh | tt: I think, with "cobex_ls <bt_addr> /" you get ls of "/" on the phone |
| 19:17.17 | ben_goodger | why exactly is there no base? |
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| 19:17.58 | tt | lyakh: I'll give it a try. |
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| 19:18.05 | Solet | how do you restart the log daemon? |
| 19:18.10 | ben_goodger | my system seems to be missing a number of packages, I have no idea what they are and no way of installing a complete set |
| 19:18.15 | lyakh | tt: cobex_get then to get files |
| 19:18.18 | wols_ | Solet: /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart |
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| 19:18.50 | linio | ben_goodger: tasksel? |
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| 19:19.03 | stew | ben_goodger: aptitude install \~E \~pstandard \~prequired |
| 19:19.10 | Solet | thanks (i'm gonna put that in as a comment on the conf file, i've found that's hte best way to help me not forget. because my aliases arent sticking around after i log out and back in |
| 19:19.16 | ben_goodger | thanks, stew |
| 19:19.19 | stew | ben_goodger: will install all Essential, standard, and required packages |
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| 19:19.45 | ben_goodger | that's not doing anything |
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| 19:19.51 | ben_goodger | is there an equivalent for desktoppy stuff? |
| 19:20.00 | stew | ben_goodger: tasksel install desktop |
| 19:20.12 | ben_goodger | clearly I'm missing something if my system isn't automounting, since I haven't been faffing around and it's a new install |
| 19:20.21 | stew | ben_goodger: are you a gnome user? |
| 19:20.23 | biz | is there a way to DPMS off the monitor in console mode (no X11) ? |
| 19:20.34 | ben_goodger | stew: yep. gnome-volume-manager is running |
| 19:20.52 | bahadunn | just install base etch and aptitude install x-window-system and gnome | kde | whatever |
| 19:21.11 | ben_goodger | bahadunn: I'm on lenny |
| 19:21.14 | stew | ben_goodger: then you aren't missing anything wrt to automounting, afaik, perhaps its a hal misconfiguration |
| 19:21.16 | ben_goodger | and I have all of those |
| 19:21.34 | abrotman | bahadunn: xorg |
| 19:21.35 | stew | (and g-v-m doens't use pmount anyway, so that had nothing to do with it) |
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| 19:21.54 | abrotman | petemc: if you use a certain font .. it comes out as a dash! |
| 19:21.55 | Bushmills | ben_goodger: can you mount your usb stick manually? |
| 19:22.01 | ben_goodger | Bushmills: yep |
| 19:22.09 | lyakh | tt: I found the exact way I did it: |
| 19:22.16 | petemc | abrotman: ah, its obvious when you say it like that! |
| 19:22.25 | wols_ | will purging a package also delte the apckage's cronjobs? |
| 19:22.43 | ben_goodger | *mutterings along the lines of HAL couldn't be misconfigured, I don't even know how to misconfigure it* |
| 19:23.05 | abrotman | petemc: you need 'merican logic! |
| 19:23.13 | petemc | heh |
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| 19:23.23 | abrotman | wols_: it should |
| 19:23.35 | Ranpha1 | Someone knows if someboyd compiled 0.7.8 rtorrent with DHT? |
| 19:23.38 | stew | ben_goodger: find the device in "hal-device" or "hal-device-manager" and see if it has mountable: yes, or whatever, and perhaps you need to tweak things in /etc/hal/fdi/, i haven no idea, since i don't use g-v-m |
| 19:23.44 | tt | lyakh: How do I find out the adress to the phone? |
| 19:23.45 | wols_ | let's hope so |
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| 19:24.07 | lyakh | tt: http://rafb.net/p/6yspRG17.html |
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| 19:24.18 | lyakh | tt: "hcitool scan" |
| 19:25.11 | Qantourisc | euuu ... |
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| 19:25.20 | Solet | i wonder if debian will ever use "Mr. Spell" for a release. It'd be awesome if they did, and they made a voice file for flite that sounded like Mr. Spell and released it as the default voice instead of perfect pete :P |
| 19:25.23 | Qantourisc | the debian kernel is FULL of modules ... is this suppost to be like this ? |
| 19:25.29 | Qantourisc | (to be eact 1823 modules) |
| 19:25.36 | wols_ | Qantourisc: yes |
| 19:25.38 | dondelelcaro | Qantourisc: of course |
| 19:25.50 | Bushmills | ben_goodger: made sure that gnome main menu -> system -> preferences -> removable drives is set up properly? |
| 19:25.53 | ben_goodger | microkernelisms ftw, figuratively |
| 19:25.54 | wols_ | Qantourisc: there is no other way for a distro kernel |
| 19:26.03 | lyakh | tt: your channel and path may vary, see man-pages |
| 19:26.18 | abrotman | wols_: there is .. but it'd be a disservice to the users |
| 19:26.42 | tt | lyakh: I'm trying to connect with cobex_ls. However it says "ERROR: Could not open port 00:18:0F:A6:A3:F2". Any ideas? Do I need to enter the password somewhere? |
| 19:26.49 | Qantourisc | wols_: aaa i see :) |
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| 19:27.02 | lyakh | tt: "hciconfig hci0"? |
| 19:27.09 | ben_goodger | Bushmills: all fine. I haven't touched anything, I never needed to before |
| 19:27.10 | wols_ | abrotman: good luck still being able to do floppy boots with such a thing :) |
| 19:27.14 | abrotman | see! |
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| 19:27.27 | Qantourisc | wols_: i'm supprised by the amount of "experimantals" compiled in though |
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| 19:27.44 | madclicker | how can i remove a host from denyhosts database? |
| 19:27.45 | Hammar | So...what should i get for a desktop machine i intend to use for the next three years: ATI or nVidia? |
| 19:28.00 | wols_ | Qantourisc: either the experiemtnal stuff is compiled or people bitch their hadware is not supported. not much choice |
| 19:28.10 | wols_ | Hammar: nvidia |
| 19:28.11 | madclicker | Intel |
| 19:28.13 | Qantourisc | wols_: yea fingures ... |
| 19:28.19 | Qantourisc | still :) |
| 19:28.35 | Bushmills | Hammar: what does a desktop machine need opengl for? |
| 19:28.36 | ReNe | has any 1 got vent working in debiam ie push to talk? |
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| 19:29.09 | Bushmills | Hammar: if it wasn't for 3d accel (and maybe transparency) , you have more choices than these two |
| 19:29.11 | stew | Qantourisc: they aren't compiled in, they are modules, which you can not load or even blacklist if they cuase problems |
| 19:29.11 | wols_ | Bushmills: same thing every other computer out there does: play Portal, sheesh |
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| 19:29.41 | Qantourisc | wols_: i do wonder about the file systems though ... there ALSO all modules ... i thoughed they needed to be compiled in to be able to start the kernel ? |
| 19:29.45 | Hammar | Bushmills: i WILL get addicted to it eventually, so it needs to run StarCraft II |
| 19:29.50 | abrotman | Qantourisc: initrd |
| 19:29.54 | tt | lyakh: Exactly what is hciconfig hci0 telling me? |
| 19:29.58 | Qantourisc | aaa i think :) |
| 19:29.59 | wols_ | Qantourisc: not with initrd |
| 19:30.00 | Bushmills | Hammar: ah. nvidia, then |
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| 19:30.35 | Hammar | wols_, Bushmills: why nvidia? |
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| 19:30.42 | wols_ | Bushmills: downaide is, either buy a 7xxx or a 8800 based card. all the ones in between are useless |
| 19:30.45 | Bushmills | Hammar: not older then 3 or 4 years ... current drivers have dropped support for some older devices |
| 19:30.54 | wols_ | this might hopefully change shortly before this christmas |
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| 19:31.11 | kantor | hi, if I disable the Nagle algorithm (TCP_NODELAY) and I try to send 4 byte TCP packets (in a loop) for instance some packets still wait until reached the MSS (my case 1440 bytes) and only after that are sent to the destination, why ? |
| 19:31.19 | lyakh | tt: "hciconfig hci0" prints out status of your hci0 device. if you see a bt-address there, it's probably up. oh, it must be up, if you could "hcitool scan", so, forget it |
| 19:31.21 | Bushmills | Hammar: drivers installartion is less of a pain |
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| 19:31.31 | Hobbes-- | Hi. You know the strategy that some systems use to handle directories with very many files, the one where all the files that start with a are in a subdirectory called a, all the b* files are in a subdirectory called b, etc? What is this strategy called? Would it be called hashing? |
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| 19:31.49 | Manny | hi |
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| 19:31.51 | tt | lyakh: It's up and running. The only problem is that I can't connect. |
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| 19:32.04 | wols_ | Hobbes--: at most sorting. hashing is something different |
| 19:32.10 | lyakh | tt: try "sdptool browse <bt-addr>" |
| 19:32.16 | tt | lyakh: I'm getting ERROR could not open port. |
| 19:32.23 | tt | lyakh: I'll give it a try. |
| 19:32.39 | Bushmills | Hobbes--: it is a sort of hashing, yes. but not a very good one. |
| 19:32.41 | Manny | I want to make a deb form a tgz package (mvpvdr) without investing too much time. I know the deps, and I want to make some package deps optional (depending on the used configure flags) |
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| 19:32.56 | Manny | is there any quick start HOWTO? |
| 19:33.01 | abrotman | !mg |
| 19:33.01 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) lynx usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
| 19:33.07 | lyakh | tt: can be you're hammering at a wrong channel on your phone |
| 19:33.12 | tt | lyakh: Got a lot of information right now. |
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| 19:33.18 | Manny | thanks |
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| 19:33.42 | rahul | Manny: dpkg doesn't work like that, exactly |
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| 19:33.54 | lyakh | tt: right, that's a list of channels on your phoe. look for some obex file-transfer service, or post output to a pastebin |
| 19:33.54 | rahul | the configure flags are IN the package definition |
| 19:34.05 | tt | lyakh: Hold on, it seemes like the phone has gotten a request. |
| 19:34.14 | stew | dpkg works like that |
| 19:34.21 | rahul | however, it will determine dynamically linked dependencies itself |
| 19:34.38 | rahul | stew: dpkg-buildpackage doesn't take in ./configure flags |
| 19:34.54 | Hammar | Bushmills: thanks |
| 19:34.54 | nvz | hmm this computer I just built for this guy is erring out with Error 21 at grub everytime he updates his kernel cause the old pc the linux drive was 1,0 slave with a windows drive.. in the new pc its 0,0 only drive.. but everytime update-manager installs a kernel update it sets it back to 1,0 |
| 19:34.54 | stew | its just that he's going to have to craate a source package that makes muliple different binary packages with different names and different dependencies |
| 19:35.08 | nvz | what in the system would be causing it to remember that old hd configuration? |
| 19:35.11 | stew | rahul: you put them in debian/rules |
| 19:35.14 | Hobbes-- | wols_, bushmills, well, we've got about half a mil files.. So, I figure, directories like ./a/a/a/ and ./a/e/1/ So file ae1f23d.txt will fall into ./a/e/1/ ... A sort of map so we don't waste too much time searching for a file in a large directory. I didn't invent this idea, of course. :) But I wonder what it is called... |
| 19:35.16 | rahul | stew: that's what I said |
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| 19:35.52 | rahul | debian/rules IS part of the package definition, to anyone who doesn't maintain the package |
| 19:36.24 | rahul | and it sounds like he's talking about "changing the configure flags" as though it's something end-users should do |
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| 19:36.40 | stew | Manny: in order to two this, you will have to make your source package build the package multiple times and create mutiple debs with different names, each with a different set of dependencies |
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| 19:37.12 | rahul | the mpg123 packages do this extensively |
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| 19:37.24 | nvz | Its annoying cause afaik the damn thing looked either to the kernel dmesg or /proc/ to find the root drive when updating grub or to the config which I keep changing to 0,0 but everytime debian updates the kernel it sets them all back to 1,0 for some reason |
| 19:37.37 | nvz | I have no idea what is telling it to do that |
| 19:37.47 | rahul | I am |
| 19:37.50 | rahul | muhahahahahaha |
| 19:37.52 | nvz | heh |
| 19:37.56 | nvz | stop it then.. ass |
| 19:38.05 | stew | nvz: which line in menu.lst are you talking about? |
| 19:38.13 | tt | lyakh: How do I connect to a specific channel? |
| 19:38.29 | rahul | HOT ass, you mean |
| 19:38.32 | wols_ | nvz: device.map ? |
| 19:38.37 | kingsley | Is there a text processing utility which finds and lists all strings that are repeated, along with a count of how many times each occurred? |
| 19:38.39 | stew | nvz: "root (hd0,0)" |
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| 19:38.47 | lyakh | tt: look in manpage of obexftp. it's the "-B" parameter |
| 19:38.50 | nvz | stew: when he updates kernels thorugh update-manager ALL lines for ALL kernels in menu.lst goto root={1,0) which was the config in the old pc |
| 19:39.00 | nvz | stew: I have to manually change it everytime he installs updates |
| 19:39.05 | wols_ | nvz: what is in device.map? |
| 19:39.09 | Mr-R | nvz: check and set "groot" option... |
| 19:39.11 | nvz | stew: which is great cause its making me money.. but.. heh |
| 19:39.21 | stew | nvz: change the "# groot=" line (but don't take off the #, it's necessary) |
| 19:39.23 | Mr-R | nvz: in the menu.lst |
| 19:39.26 | nvz | Mr-R: what's that? |
| 19:39.37 | nvz | I've never heard of groot before |
| 19:39.51 | stew | nvz: search for it in menu.lst |
| 19:39.56 | rahul | groot sounds like a sound a scary animal makes |
| 19:39.59 | nvz | stew: seriously? it actually parses a commented line? |
| 19:40.03 | stew | nvz: yes |
| 19:40.04 | rahul | even scarier than an ass! |
| 19:40.13 | abrotman | kingsley: that's a pretty common CS programming assignment .. you should be able to find it online |
| 19:40.22 | stew | nvz: update-grub does (like the # kopt=) line |
| 19:40.24 | Bushmills | kingsley: uniq -c |
| 19:40.37 | Bushmills | kingsley: usually after | sort | ... |
| 19:40.49 | Hobbes-- | kingsley: I think uniq has some command line options that might help you along the way, if not get you all the way there. I assume that you mean duplicate lines.. like, for hello\nhello\nhello you'd want to see "hello": 3 eh? |
| 19:40.50 | abrotman | Bushmills: he'd have to get them all in one column ? |
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| 19:41.00 | nvz | stew: ok I will set groot = (0,0) then and that should cause the update-grub run by the configure script for kernels to use the right drive? |
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| 19:41.33 | Bushmills | abrotman: translate white space to \n ? |
| 19:41.37 | nvz | stew: so is the problem here that I didn't update or recreate my map file when I switched configurations? |
| 19:41.48 | Hobbes-- | kingsley: various combinations of sort, uniq, sed can certainly do what you need. |
| 19:41.57 | stew | nvz: no the problem is that you didn't update the #groot= line |
| 19:41.59 | abrotman | kingsley: http://www.cplusplus.happycodings.com/Algorithms/code33.html |
| 19:42.01 | Hobbes-- | kingsley: yes. The code exists. |
| 19:42.17 | nvz | stew: oh, well I never heard "groot" before today.. heh |
| 19:42.17 | kingsley | Only strings that are separated by whitespace would be acceptable, but in this the best of all possible worlds, I'd prefer that it not be limited. |
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| 19:42.28 | nvz | stew: but I'm making a note of it, thanks. |
| 19:42.32 | \amethyst | kingsley: look at the "Dictionary Coding" section of http://www-ec.njit.edu/~shi/courses/ECE789/ch6.pdf, it describes how LZ77 and friends work |
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| 19:43.27 | tt | lyakh: obexftp is telling me "nothing to do" when connecting to channel 11 (seemes to be file transfer channel). Any idea? Right now the command line look like : obexftp -b 00:18:0F:A6:A3:F2 -B 11 / |
| 19:43.58 | lyakh | tt: a "-l" is missing... |
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| 19:45.07 | tt | lyakh: I think that worked. Now the phone queryd the phone for my computer. What password should I use? I havent set up any bluetooth password. |
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| 19:45.37 | console_jockey | quick question: just installed debain with gnome and want to switch default dm to kde. what is the cli command to reconfigure the default? |
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| 19:45.50 | apt_get | |
| 19:45.59 | lyakh | tt: not sure. try either just "enter" or some "0000"? |
| 19:46.04 | apt_get | hI |
| 19:46.09 | tt | lyakh: Thanks for your patience, your really helping me out :) |
| 19:46.15 | tt | lyakh: I'll try that. |
| 19:46.38 | lyakh | tt: I had to enter a password at some stage, but it was in a long chain of trial-and-error attempts... |
| 19:46.43 | lyakh | tt: np |
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| 19:47.37 | apt_get | How can i see the MAC address in a network card, in the /etc/init.d/udev start process? |
| 19:47.53 | stiv2k | what is the binary name for bittornado |
| 19:48.05 | apt_get | I want remove a line in ""/etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules"", with the right mac address |
| 19:48.10 | wols_ | stiv2k: dpkg -L <packagename> |grep bin |
| 19:48.20 | wols_ | apt_get: ifconfig |
| 19:48.25 | console_jockey | tt: there is a great article in Linux Journal from September 2007 (issue 161) that talks about hanking bluetooth. You might find it helpful. Don't have a link to a site, but you can probably look it up. |
| 19:48.28 | apt_get | ifconfig in udev start? |
| 19:48.32 | wols_ | apt_get: HWAddr three is MAC |
| 19:48.48 | abrotman | console_jockey: you want to configure the DM or the DE ? |
| 19:48.52 | dvs | apt_get: you don't remove a rule. You put a rule before the one in z25_persisten.. |
| 19:48.58 | Bushmills | console_jockey: echo /usr/bin/gdm > /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 19:49.15 | tt | lyakh: Any ideas how to enter a password on the computer? |
| 19:49.15 | apt_get | I have a "SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:e0:4c:39:03:93", NAME="eth1"" line |
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| 19:49.25 | stiv2k | its hard to find a bittorrent client that doesnt suck |
| 19:49.26 | wols_ | Bushmills: how about update-alternatives instead? |
| 19:49.26 | stiv2k | :/ |
| 19:49.28 | stiv2k | anyone know of any? |
| 19:49.30 | lyakh | tt: what exactly do you see? |
| 19:49.33 | dvs | apt_get: in what file? |
| 19:49.41 | console_jockey | abrotman: I get those confused. I want to switch from gnome to kde |
| 19:49.44 | apt_get | i dont have anymore the mac |
| 19:49.53 | lyakh | tt: your phone prompted you to enter a password to use with the pc, right? |
| 19:49.56 | apt_get | then, i dont want edit manually |
| 19:49.58 | Bushmills | wols_: just checked them, xdm/gdm doesn't seem to use alternatives |
| 19:50.00 | tt | lyakh: Yes. |
| 19:50.05 | apt_get | "/etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules": SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:e0:4c:39:03:93", NAME="eth1" |
| 19:50.08 | abrotman | console_jockey: ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession |
| 19:50.09 | wols_ | apt_get: the mac is the 00:e0:.... number... |
| 19:50.12 | console_jockey | I seem to recall using a reconfigure-desktop or somesuch command, but it's been some time... |
| 19:50.23 | abrotman | oh .. ddon't know that one |
| 19:50.27 | lyakh | tt: does the "obexftp -l" command return a list of directories? |
| 19:50.28 | dvs | apt_get: you shouldn't edit a file that already exists |
| 19:50.32 | apt_get | i need to remove this line.... in system, no network card exist with this MAC |
| 19:50.44 | wols_ | apt_get: then delete it? |
| 19:50.49 | apt_get | hmm.. no |
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| 19:50.56 | apt_get | if i delete... it will be regenerated |
| 19:50.58 | fas3r | hello everybody |
| 19:51.09 | apt_get | than i can lost the right netword order (eth0, eth1...) |
| 19:51.09 | wols_ | apt_get: why would it if the MAC doesn't exist anymore? |
| 19:51.12 | console_jockey | but that was when I had ubuntu installed and I'd later installed kde... so I'd just assumed there was a similar command for debian (bad assumption I'm sure). |
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| 19:51.40 | apt_get | because if i leave, the eth1 are reserved |
| 19:51.41 | tt | lyakh: Trying to connect. And the phone needs to enter a password to get access to the computer. |
| 19:51.53 | apt_get | then the new SECOND card.. will be eth2 |
| 19:51.59 | PerfDave | console_jockey: dpkg-reconfigure *dm will allow you to choose your DM of preference. |
| 19:51.59 | dvs | apt_get: then use a new name |
| 19:52.00 | pickcoder | kingsley: I don't think I've seen a utility specifically written to do that |
| 19:52.01 | \amethyst | wols_: I thnink the idea is that, as long as the cards stay the same, they shoud have a fixed order |
| 19:52.03 | apt_get | hmmm |
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| 19:52.13 | dvs | apt_get: don't even bother with the eth? naming scheme |
| 19:52.19 | \amethyst | wols_: but if a card is swapped out, its replacement should take its place |
| 19:52.21 | pickcoder | are you wanting a report of words that are repeated and how many times they occur? |
| 19:52.22 | apt_get | hmm |
| 19:52.26 | console_jockey | PerfDave: that's the one! Thank you! |
| 19:52.31 | wols_ | \amethyst: I know what the reasoning is and it's the same bullshit as windows does. fuck that! |
| 19:52.34 | dvs | apt_get: mine is names "lan" and "wlan" |
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| 19:52.41 | lyakh | tt: ok, then it's the other way round - not the phone requests a password to allow your pc to connect, but it wants you to enter a password to use to connect to the pc:-) |
| 19:52.55 | wols_ | apt_get: then why not just add the new card's MAC in there and be happy? |
| 19:53.18 | tt | lyakh: Yeah, sorry for being a bit unclear ;) |
| 19:53.19 | apt_get | because i fixed eth0 for local network |
| 19:53.21 | lyakh | tt: what happens if you either just press "enter" or "continue" or whatever on your phone or enter some random 4-digit number? |
| 19:53.23 | apt_get | and others for link |
| 19:53.52 | wols_ | apt_get: you are making no sense. come back when you do |
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| 19:54.07 | tt | lyakh: I can't enter a password without a number. And when trying random numbers it prompts for the password again. |
| 19:54.09 | apt_get | I need this: eth0 and eth1 work... when eth1 broken, i open the case, change the card... and when boots again, dont turn this new card in eth2... swap with eth1(that dont exist more) |
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| 19:54.52 | wols_ | apt_get: /msg dpkg z25 and do proper loading of ethernet drivers to determine which card is what device. HTH. HAND |
| 19:54.59 | pickcoder | kingsley: or.. do you want to report on matching char strings in a blob of text? |
| 19:55.09 | pickcoder | #2 is a bit more complicated than # |
| 19:55.10 | pickcoder | #1 |
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| 19:57.42 | techouse | which ntfs-3g do you guys suggest? the one from etch-backports or the one from debian unstable? |
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| 19:57.46 | apt_get | ok |
| 19:57.57 | jelly-home | techouse: whatever's newer :-) |
| 19:58.19 | \amethyst | apt_get: I like your idea, myself |
| 19:58.22 | techouse | well....i've a tendency to have a stable debian :) |
| 19:58.24 | \amethyst | doh |
| 19:59.17 | jelly-home | techouse: eh, you're only going to have newer ntfs-3g and possibly fuse (both userspace and kernel module, if you're on 2.6.18). |
| 19:59.43 | techouse | i'm on 2.6.22-2-k7 |
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| 19:59.58 | kingsley | pickcoder: Thanks for asking. I'm interesting in the later, reporting on matching char strings in a blob of text. |
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| 20:00.07 | techouse | ntfs-3g requires a kernel graeter than 20 |
| 20:00.12 | jelly-home | techouse: k, so you don't need newer kernel fuse. |
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| 20:00.31 | kingsley | pickcoder: I suspect that similar code is in data compression algorithms. |
| 20:00.38 | techouse | well....i got 22 from etch-backports :) |
| 20:00.41 | PhinnFort | why is the "flag" field in /etc/shadow in use, and what is it in use for? |
| 20:01.02 | PerfDave | man 5 shadow |
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| 20:01.51 | lyakh | tt: look in your /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf |
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| 20:01.57 | \amethyst | PhinnFort: what do you mean by "flag"? |
| 20:02.07 | lyakh | tt: mine says passkey "1234"; |
| 20:02.35 | totev | how many cds do i need to get debian going? |
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| 20:02.40 | stew | totev: 1 |
| 20:02.42 | techouse | 1 |
| 20:02.47 | dvs | not even 1 |
| 20:02.49 | Bushmills | totev, 0 |
| 20:02.51 | totev | just the first one? |
| 20:02.51 | techouse | true |
| 20:02.55 | techouse | yes |
| 20:03.02 | dvs | totev: yup |
| 20:03.02 | techouse | or the first DVD |
| 20:03.04 | totev | because they are 20 *.iso's |
| 20:03.04 | wols_ | yes, only the first one. can easily be a 150MB netinst ISO too |
| 20:03.11 | totev | don't have that much space :D |
| 20:03.12 | tt | lyakh: Mine says that too. |
| 20:03.17 | moope1 | !interfaces |
| 20:03.17 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client> read "man resolv.conf" for DNS also ask me about <static route> |
| 20:03.19 | totev | i'll run it in vmware |
| 20:03.21 | lyakh | tt: so, try that |
| 20:03.23 | PhinnFort | \amethyst: the last field |
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| 20:03.35 | tt | lyakh: I'm doing that. |
| 20:03.45 | PhinnFort | \amethyst: it's supposed to be a "flag" field, and unused, according to all the docs I can find |
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| 20:03.50 | \amethyst | PhinnFort: good question... |
| 20:03.55 | moope1 | how do I permanently assign an Ip address to an interface? |
| 20:03.56 | techouse | some of this etch stuff is really old :( |
| 20:04.02 | stew | totev: the other cds are for installing when you wont' be able to get to the internet after the install in order to download software |
| 20:04.07 | \amethyst | PhinnFort: and it's not empty in your shadow file? |
| 20:04.14 | Bushmills | moope, edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:04.53 | totev | stew thanks, i won't need a lot of software. at work we'll be changing to some linux distro and want to know something about it beforehand |
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| 20:04.55 | moope1 | Bushmills: what is the syntax? |
| 20:04.59 | PhinnFort | stew: nope |
| 20:05.04 | sobersabre | hi guys. is there a debian tool to set gdm theme, user's "lockdown" stuff etc. ? |
| 20:05.09 | Bushmills | moope: man interfaces |
| 20:05.15 | sobersabre | or shall I use the gnome ? |
| 20:05.26 | sobersabre | I mean gnome's tools of gnome management... |
| 20:05.47 | stew | sobersabre: gdmsetup ? |
| 20:06.16 | tt | lyakh: It ain't working. Still prompting for password. |
| 20:06.22 | sobersabre | hm... I'd like command line. if possible. |
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| 20:06.39 | sobersabre | I'm setting up fai templates. |
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| 20:07.00 | ciol | Hi, if I want to install packages to build a source package of unstable, I will do apt-get build-dep -t unstable iceweasel. But how can I tell apt to download only build deps from etch or lenny? |
| 20:07.18 | ciol | (when possible) |
| 20:07.21 | techouse | by pinning it |
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| 20:07.29 | moope1 | Bushmills: iface eth1 inet static; address 192.168.0.8; netmask 255.255.255.0.....I want to make sure cos If I cock it up and lose access to the box Im buggered. |
| 20:07.30 | ciol | :/ |
| 20:07.37 | ciol | it's boring to pinning |
| 20:07.41 | stew | ciol: don't add any deb lines for unstable or lenny, just deb-src lines |
| 20:07.48 | MolePrince | Hello. I was wondering if anyone here had used any sort of speech recognition software under linux. I am looking specifically for something to use for dictation. |
| 20:07.55 | lyakh | tt: are there many files? |
| 20:08.05 | tt | lyakh: where? |
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| 20:08.12 | Bushmills | moope, looks ok. maybe you want to add a line gateway ip.addr.of.gateway |
| 20:08.34 | tt | lyakh: It seemes like the phone cant find the computer when making a search. Hmmm |
| 20:08.41 | moope1 | Bushmills: The computer it is on is the gateway, that why I need the static P |
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| 20:09.01 | ciol | stew: I don't see how deb lines are implied |
| 20:09.10 | lyakh | tt: do you have to transfer many files? |
| 20:09.26 | Bushmills | moope, then that's all you need |
| 20:09.29 | tt | lyakh: Audio files etc. |
| 20:09.53 | stew | ciol: "apt-get build-dep" only installs binary packages. it only knows how to be binary packages from deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list. if you don't have any deb lines from unstable, it won't install any binaries from unstable |
| 20:09.59 | lyakh | tt: you could push them one-by-one from the phone... but if there are a few that's borring |
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| 20:10.06 | Bushmills | moope, ehm, auto eth0 maybe too |
| 20:10.10 | stew | ciol: in general you don't want to install binaries from testing or unstable if you are building a stable system |
| 20:10.23 | Bushmills | eth1 i mean |
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| 20:10.39 | tt | lyakh: I could give that a try. |
| 20:10.49 | moope1 | Bushmills: What does that do? |
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| 20:10.57 | ciol | stew: apt-get build-dep won't install libgtk-dev if iceweasel needs it? |
| 20:11.04 | tt | Im looking at: http://www.hillenius.net/node/21 What do you think of the passkey-agent? |
| 20:11.13 | tt | lyakh: |
| 20:11.15 | Bushmills | " Lines beginning with the word "auto" are used to identify the physical interfaces to be brought up when ifup is run with the -a option. " |
| 20:11.22 | lyakh | tt: in "man hcitool" there's also a "key" command... |
| 20:11.25 | moope1 | ic |
| 20:11.35 | moope1 | Bushmills: Thanks very much |
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| 20:12.01 | stew | ciol: iceweasel doesn't need it, it needs libgtk2.0-dev, and it will install libgtk2.0-dev when you run "apt-get build-dep iceweasel" if it isn't already installed. libgtk2.0-dev is a binary package |
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| 20:12.06 | lyakh | tt: try "hciconfig hci0 noauth" |
| 20:12.30 | lyakh | tt: also "hciconfig hci0 piscan" |
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| 20:13.15 | lyakh | tt: passkey-agent could help too, yes |
| 20:13.34 | ciol | stew: ok |
| 20:14.14 | tt | lyakh: noauth didn't help. It just made me nervous :p |
| 20:14.24 | logyati | i installed a package from another source, but now i want to replace it ith the old version, from debian repositories... how do i do that? |
| 20:14.42 | lyakh | tt::-) "hciconfig hci0 piscan" should let your phone see your pc |
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| 20:16.14 | tdrusk | what would be the best package manager to use with xfce? I can't open synaptic. |
| 20:16.20 | moope1 | I am trying to work out my subnets for dhcp #subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.224 { ...Why is the subnet 254 at the end? |
| 20:16.30 | rahul | ask and run |
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| 20:16.41 | rahul | moope1: read the IP subnetworking mini howto |
| 20:16.41 | stew | logyati: aptitude install packagename=version |
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| 20:16.49 | tt | lyakh: Now the phone found the computer when searching. |
| 20:16.57 | moope1 | rahul where is that? |
| 20:17.02 | rahul | dpkg: ldp |
| 20:17.02 | dpkg | methinks tldp is The Linux Documentation Project at http://www.tldp.org |
| 20:17.07 | tdrusk | accidentally logged out. If anyone answered my question I missed it. |
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| 20:17.14 | lyakh | tt: then you can try to push... |
| 20:17.24 | stew | tdrusk: aptitude is the best package manager |
| 20:17.46 | lyakh | tt: but first try entering "1234" again or try that passkey-agent |
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| 20:18.22 | tdrusk | stew: how can I search for a package with it? |
| 20:18.29 | stew | tdrusk: hit / |
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| 20:18.51 | SpeedyG | tdrusk: or use aptitude search in the commandline :) |
| 20:19.24 | stew | tdrusk: or "aptitude install aptitude-doc-en" and read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en and go to the chapter on searching |
| 20:19.32 | Danielss89 | whats the command for renaming a folder? |
| 20:19.40 | stew | Danielss89: mv |
| 20:19.42 | MolePrince | Danielss89: mv :) |
| 20:19.44 | Danielss89 | thx |
| 20:20.13 | tdrusk | stew: thanks. |
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| 20:21.47 | lyakh | tt: this is what I used to push: http://rafb.net/p/wq3Vtc25.html your channel can be different of course. and "obexserver" just used to put single files under /tmp/, as you send them from the phone |
| 20:21.49 | tdrusk | stew: stupid question... I am using xfce's terminal. How can I scroll up? |
| 20:22.09 | stew | tdrusk: i've never uesd it, but in others it is ctrl+pgup |
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| 20:22.33 | lyakh | tt: and I had to restart obexserver after every single file |
| 20:22.43 | SpeedyG | tdrusk: shift-pgup |
| 20:23.21 | SpeedyG | at least, thats in my term while running xfce :) |
| 20:24.05 | tdrusk | speedyG: works, thanks :) |
| 20:24.16 | SpeedyG | :) |
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| 20:25.11 | ciol | do you know how apt can say what deps are issues? |
| 20:25.28 | ciol | because when I apt-get build-dep, I get:Build-dependencies for iceweasel could not be satisfied. |
| 20:25.50 | ciol | I'd like it says which are not satisfied :/ |
| 20:26.35 | Bushmills | apt-cache depends <packagename> shows dependencies |
| 20:26.56 | Qantourisc | is a driver capable of freezing a kernel ? |
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| 20:27.04 | Qantourisc | (module) |
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| 20:27.08 | Bushmills | Qantourisc: yes |
| 20:27.11 | Qantourisc | wow :) |
| 20:27.12 | tt | lyakh: Ill give up for now. Thanks anyway. |
| 20:27.15 | Qantourisc | didn't knew that :) |
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| 20:27.29 | ciol | Bushmills: yeah, I know it |
| 20:27.30 | lyakh | tt: you're welcome |
| 20:27.41 | ameyer | I've seen i810 cause kernel panics |
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| 20:28.03 | tdrusk | It would be nice if I could get synaptic running though... It's giving me "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib:no protocol specified. GTK-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
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| 20:28.38 | Qantourisc | tdrusk: synaptics shouldn't give that warning |
| 20:28.49 | Qantourisc | tdrusk: unless you are causing it not to be able to be loaded |
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| 20:28.51 | simonrvn | running it as root will do that... |
| 20:29.01 | Bushmills | tdrusk: run (from an xterm) xhost + and try again whether it makes a diff |
| 20:29.03 | kaje | My system no longer sees my sound card, is there some command I can run to redetect it? |
| 20:29.13 | proog | how do i disable the su command for a single user? |
| 20:29.16 | simonrvn | !xhost |
| 20:29.17 | dpkg | xhost is probably EVIL! Ask me about mit-magic-cookie, or read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz before even thinking about using the "xhost" command. Ask me about "sshx", or "nolisten" if you're mule-headed, or "apt-cache show xbase-clients | grep xhost" will tell you "xhost, a very dangerous program that you should never use" You should use ssh X11 forwarding instead. use sux instead of su |
| 20:29.19 | Bushmills | tdrusk: be aware that you set your X open for others on your LAN |
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| 20:29.33 | simonrvn | !sshx |
| 20:29.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the remote server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html, or try ... |
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| 20:29.56 | simonrvn | !sux |
| 20:29.56 | dpkg | sux is a utility for running X apps as root. aptitude install sux and documentation at http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ . Also ask me about <gksu>. Sux is also the way some people spell sucks and usually implies that they don't know what they are talking about. Ask me about <u>. |
| 20:29.58 | Bushmills | simonrvn: this use of xhost is for diagnostic purpose, not meant as a fix |
| 20:30.12 | simonrvn | you shouldn't even suggest it |
| 20:30.22 | snacky | those faqs are good |
| 20:30.31 | mavhc | is there a way to stop the X application dying when the connection is severed, like screen for console based stuff? |
| 20:30.51 | Bushmills | mavhc: vnc :) |
| 20:30.56 | tdrusk | Bushmills: xhost + said it couldn't connect from any hosts |
| 20:31.18 | proog | how do i disable the su command for a single user? |
| 20:31.23 | mavhc | yeah, that's why I use now, would be nice to have x apps that stayed alive, and could be moved from screen to screen |
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| 20:32.10 | Bushmills | proog: /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 20:32.29 | Bushmills | proog: look for DenyUsers in man sshd_config |
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| 20:32.40 | \amethyst | Bushmills: what does that have to do with su? |
| 20:32.50 | Bushmills | proog: forget that |
| 20:32.57 | pickcoder | kingsley: you could write your own in C |
| 20:32.59 | SexyKen | I am finally going to give rsync a try :-) |
| 20:33.01 | Bushmills | proog: i read "ssh" instead of "su" |
| 20:33.30 | proog | Bushmills: do you know how the thing about su can be accomplished? |
| 20:33.58 | Bushmills | proog: assuming su asks for password, what do you want to prevent? |
| 20:34.36 | cabaire | exit |
| 20:34.37 | proog | Bushmills: I want to prevent a single user from using the su command at all, if possible |
| 20:34.37 | ciol | ciol: dpkg-checkbuilddeps |
| 20:34.54 | tdrusk | Bushmills: I installed gksu and ran gksu synaptic. It works now. Thanks for your help. |
| 20:35.00 | yigal | does anyone know if discover1 or discover2 is better for newer hardware detection? |
| 20:35.03 | Bushmills | proog: you might get there by edting /etc/pam.d/su but don't ask me for details what to do |
| 20:35.12 | proog | ok |
| 20:35.13 | kingsley | pickcoder: Yes, the concept has captured my imagination, but I'd prefer to avoid reinventing the wheel, and I'd like to think that the ability to find and count arbitrary duplicate text within a file has enough applications that someone has already written the code, possibly shared by data compression applications. |
| 20:35.19 | techouse | so lenny is the testing version and etch is the stable version? |
| 20:35.26 | \amethyst | proog: you want to disable su *from* a particular user? |
| 20:35.39 | Bushmills | proog: i think one way is: |
| 20:35.40 | pickcoder | kingsley: to some extent yes.. not necc in the manner you need |
| 20:35.46 | proog | \amethyst: exactly |
| 20:35.52 | Bushmills | proog: put that user into a specific group, |
| 20:36.01 | kingsley | pickcoder: I agree. |
| 20:36.02 | Bushmills | and uncomment auth required pam_wheel.so deny group=nosu |
| 20:36.12 | \amethyst | proog: something like auth required pam_succeed_if.so quiet_success use_uid user != badguy |
| 20:36.17 | pickcoder | bit compression is a bit different |
| 20:36.20 | \amethyst | or do the group thing |
| 20:36.25 | proog | ok, thanks |
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| 20:37.34 | kingsley | pickcoder: Another application that resembles what I'm imagining is in the similarity-tester package. But my understanding is that it compares files. |
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| 20:38.11 | gordo | does anyone here know how to get battlefield 2142 to work on debian? |
| 20:38.37 | xand | gordo: wine? |
| 20:38.46 | gordo | yeah |
| 20:38.49 | gordo | tried it |
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| 20:39.09 | streuner | did you looked at hq wine db? |
| 20:39.26 | gordo | ? |
| 20:39.34 | gordo | aorry i am a noob at linux |
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| 20:39.37 | mumbles | was a bit harsh |
| 20:39.47 | gordo | sorry* |
| 20:39.52 | streuner | gordo: http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php |
| 20:40.58 | mumbles | .... |
| 20:41.12 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:42.26 | xand | mumbles: it's harsh to call yourself a noob? |
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| 20:42.39 | simonrvn | what's harsh about telling someone to go look at a web site? |
| 20:43.03 | mumbles | xand: my client had stuck . |
| 20:43.09 | xand | :o |
| 20:43.15 | xand | wd40 |
| 20:43.26 | mumbles | thought it was current - hadent noticed it was about 3 hours ago . |
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| 20:44.24 | vvd | plong |
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| 20:44.34 | streuner | !plonk |
| 20:44.34 | dpkg | plonk is, like, the sound that a name makes when hitting the ignore list or or killfile. Plonk is British and Canadian slang for cheap wine. "Rodney, you plonker." |
| 20:44.44 | xand | no it's not |
| 20:45.01 | vvd | pling |
| 20:45.11 | toddobryan | I'm using Python 2.5 in development and trying to get Python 2.5 working on my server, which is Debian. I got mod_python working, but Trac just died because Subversion doesn't have the Python 2.5 bindings. Could anybody help me do what I need to do to get Trac working? |
| 20:45.18 | snacky | xand: ok, then what *is* the british slang for cheap wine? ;) |
| 20:45.50 | gordo | I looked at the website for bf2142 and it said to save a file under ${WINEPREFIX}/dosdevices/c:/windows/system32 but it says the file or directory doesnt exist |
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| 20:46.26 | streuner | sure, so just create it |
| 20:46.52 | streuner | surely you need system32 files too... |
| 20:47.37 | gordo | o ok |
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| 20:48.25 | xand | snacky: not sure there is one? |
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| 20:49.28 | snacky | I wonder who wrote that silly "cheap wine" stuff in that faq, then |
| 20:50.42 | pettern | any suggestions to how i can make fglrx work on debian testing. been trying to install it lots of differnt ways but still no luck and i see others have the same problems |
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| 20:50.58 | Bushmills | snacky: someone who read foldoc or jargon or other online dictionaries |
| 20:50.58 | xand | snacky: maybe it's northern or something |
| 20:50.59 | wols | pettern: what videocard exactly? |
| 20:51.09 | pettern | 9600pro |
| 20:51.26 | wols | and what kernel? |
| 20:51.32 | wols | version that is |
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| 20:52.16 | pettern | 2.6.21-2-686 |
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| 20:52.23 | pettern | smp |
| 20:52.48 | wols | do you get a GPL violation when you try to modprobe fglrx? |
| 20:52.50 | dkr | just because *you* aren't aware of the usage of word does not mean it doesn't exist. |
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| 20:53.46 | pickcoder | kingsley: how much text are you considering in the pattern analysis? |
| 20:54.03 | snacky | dkr: are you aware of that usage of the word? |
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| 20:54.46 | dkr | snacky: dpkg isn't wikipedia. don't worry about it. :) |
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| 20:55.17 | pettern | wols, will run the flgrx one-liner now and give you the output |
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| 20:55.35 | snacky | dkr: how could I not worry about slang words for cheap wine? it's a troubling topic |
| 20:55.39 | wam | ot: where can i best irc about a ddos against ssh going on currently? Is there some hosting channel? Maybe on another irc net? |
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| 20:55.59 | streuner | wam: URL? |
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| 20:56.15 | wam | streuner: ? |
| 20:56.32 | streuner | How did you heard about? |
| 20:56.40 | wam | streuner: I'm being hit |
| 20:56.46 | xand | dkr: as I'm british, I think it would be likely that I'd heard of it... |
| 20:56.53 | pettern | wols, yeah. gpl-inxompatible module fglrx.ko uses GPL-only symbol 'par |
| 20:57.15 | dkr | xand: and that is the thought process I was pointing out as incorrect. :) |
| 20:57.15 | wam | streuner: mostly, I'm looking for some distributed blacklist or such |
| 20:57.25 | kingsley | pickcoder: Thanks for asking. The short answer is, the more the better. Having said that, it seems to me that a.) unless one is careful, compuational complexity could prohibit analyzing large texts, and 2.) computational complexity should be reigned in if the algorithm lets the user specify the shortest and longest strings to consider. Does that make sense? |
| 20:57.57 | ben_goodger | snacky: the british slang for cheap wine is plonk |
| 20:58.10 | ben_goodger | but that's also applicable to wine in general |
| 20:58.16 | xand | orly |
| 20:58.21 | ben_goodger | you could try "corner-shop piss", that works |
| 20:58.47 | snacky | it sounds like you guys just have too many words for your own good. |
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| 20:59.11 | ben_goodger | snacky: the slang varies within the distance of about fifty miles |
| 20:59.22 | ben_goodger | it's horrible, horrible I say |
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| 20:59.44 | ben_goodger | I come from about three different corners of the country at the same time, and hence I speak really weirdly |
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| 21:00.22 | pettern | wols, http://pastebin.no/2714 |
| 21:00.28 | pettern | thats the complete logfile |
| 21:00.29 | tdrusk | I need help with wireless. I installed ndiswrapper, which is supposed to work with my card and kernel. I installed the driver and it sees the device. How can I connect to my network? |
| 21:00.38 | tdrusk | ndiswrapper sees the device |
| 21:01.35 | Szeraax | tdrusk: what kind of wireless is it? |
| 21:01.43 | pettern | wols, is there any fix/workaround for that problem? |
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| 21:03.19 | tdrusk | Szerrax: it's an atheros ar5007eg. I've gotten it to work in Ubuntu. |
| 21:04.06 | Szeraax | tdrusk: why limit it to ndiswrapper? |
| 21:04.14 | Szeraax | use real madwifi drivers |
| 21:04.25 | pickcoder | kingsley: yeah. I was thinking along the lines of min=2 and max=1/2 physical size. You will never need to compare more than half of the characters. |
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| 21:05.38 | kingsley | pickcoder: I find myself wondering why you're interested in finding and counting repeated strings. |
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| 21:06.02 | tdrusk | Szerrax: what do you mean. madwifi doesn't work with this card. |
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| 21:06.48 | Szeraax | its atheros isnt it? |
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| 21:06.51 | tdrusk | szarrax: sorry didn't see your last entry. yeah, madwifi doesn't support this card yet. |
| 21:06.58 | Szeraax | is it usb? |
| 21:07.01 | tdrusk | no |
| 21:07.11 | Szeraax | wierd |
| 21:07.12 | tdrusk | ath5k is supposed to support it though. |
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| 21:07.34 | Szeraax | tdrusk: can't wair for it! |
| 21:07.37 | Szeraax | wait* |
| 21:08.26 | Urigeller | someone got a divine suggestion why the standby/hibernate buttons in gnome gui are not working properly, but s2ram and s2disk from terminal are behaving fine? |
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| 21:10.30 | wols | Paracha: different kernel/driver |
| 21:10.37 | tdrusk | szeraax: what's a good wireless manager for xfce? |
| 21:10.40 | wols | e.g it should work with a 2.6.18 kernel |
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| 21:10.55 | techouse | can anyone help me compile my own nvidia-kernel? |
| 21:11.16 | pettern | wols,talking to me? |
| 21:11.27 | streuner | wam: http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 21:13.02 | Szeraax | tdrusk: I dunno, i use KDE |
| 21:13.08 | tdrusk | okay |
| 21:13.16 | tdrusk | what's a good wireless manager for xfce? |
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| 21:14.44 | wam | streuner: I use fail2ban. Its a ddos - not a dos |
| 21:14.51 | wam | streuner: I need to synchronize. |
| 21:15.31 | streuner | Are you using Debian? |
| 21:15.36 | wam | streuner: yes |
| 21:15.49 | wam | streuner: but what would that help?! |
| 21:15.54 | streuner | ok, just subscribe to security debian ML and ask there |
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| 21:16.16 | wam | streuner: hmm - i hoped for something faster. but ok. Thanks |
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| 21:16.48 | streuner | Debian ML's are pretty fast too |
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| 21:16.58 | wam | streuner: I even hoped someone would be hit too - as I recieve the same pattern in 3 different nets where one isn't known to be mine. |
| 21:17.00 | streuner | you usually get an answer pretty fast |
| 21:17.11 | yassine | good evening i followed this howto: http://sonique54.free.fr/compiz-fusion/compiz-fusion.html and here is what i get when i try to install compiz-fusion-package http://rafb.net/p/Vgmuzf31.html i have a lenny box |
| 21:18.35 | pickcoder | kingsley: I do a lot of string manipulation and analysis in Pick |
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| 21:19.57 | kingsley | pickcoder: I can see that you have a knack for it. |
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| 21:24.39 | \amethyst | schemelab: which version of debian? |
| 21:24.45 | \amethyst | doh, wrong window |
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| 21:26.34 | pettern | wols, that helped. now i just have to load the module |
| 21:26.58 | pettern | its not permitted and i dont remember how to fix that |
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| 21:28.58 | BBHoss | how can i monitor another user with screen? |
| 21:29.16 | pettern | never mind |
| 21:31.49 | \amethyst | BBHoss: have the user do Ctrl-A : multiuser on |
| 21:32.18 | \amethyst | BBHoss: then Ctrl-A : acladd your-user-name |
| 21:32.31 | \amethyst | BBHoss: then you can do screen -x -r theirusername/ |
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| 21:32.38 | BBHoss | ok thanks |
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| 21:33.21 | Caelum | xlsfonts doesn't see my ttf fonts anymore, how do I fix that? |
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| 21:35.08 | Trewas | Caelum: it shouldn't see them, fft fonts are handled by fontconfig (run fs-list to list them) |
| 21:35.19 | Trewas | hrm, ttf :) |
| 21:35.58 | Caelum | Trewas: it used to see them before... fc-list does show them, but I want them in the regular X font list too |
| 21:36.04 | BBHoss | can i monitor a certain pts? \amethyst? |
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| 21:36.24 | asdzxc_ | hi |
| 21:36.32 | asdzxc_ | can i ask when this 'http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20071018.195108.6f32db63.en.html' will be fixed in Etch ? |
| 21:37.03 | Caelum | nothing will be fixed in etch, except for security issues |
| 21:37.31 | asdzxc_ | so it will remain unfixed for XX years ? |
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| 21:37.41 | Trewas | Caelum: I think the current font rendering system has advanced quite far from the old X fonts... but xfstt should get truetype fonts to be available to old-style X programs |
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| 21:38.16 | \amethyst | asdzxc_: It's fixed in lenny |
| 21:38.31 | moope1 | I have a weird one, I have set up a debian router. I ping www.google.co.uk and get a 25ms latency from my laptop which it connected via a switch attached to the router. ping from the router its self gives a latency of 35ms. How can that be? |
| 21:38.40 | \amethyst | asdzxc_: so if you mean "unfixed in a release", then yes, where XX is the number of years until lenny is released |
| 21:38.52 | Caelum | Trewas: I have /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType as a fontpath in my xorg.conf, shouldn't that be enough? |
| 21:39.03 | \amethyst | actually, sorry, it's fixed in sid |
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| 21:39.15 | asdzxc_ | it's fixed in unstable. will it bet it to stable ? |
| 21:39.15 | \amethyst | it will probably migrate to lenny in a few days |
| 21:40.24 | Caelum | moope1: latency changes from time to time |
| 21:40.24 | \amethyst | asdzxc_: it will not go to etch. The whole point of a stable release is that it doesn't change (except for security fixes) |
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| 21:40.24 | \amethyst | asdzxc_: when lenny becomes stable, it will be in stable |
| 21:40.24 | Trewas | Caelum: I don't actually know if X supports truetype fonts directly, I assumed that it doesn't but I could be wrong |
| 21:40.24 | moope1 | Caelum: Im running the test concurrently |
| 21:40.25 | tomatobros | hi how can i create mnt folder link on desktop ? |
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| 21:40.26 | Bushmills | asdzxc, "stable" is stable because no changes (except security) make it into the distribution anymore |
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| 21:40.37 | asdzxc_ | \amethyst hm |
| 21:40.40 | stew | tomatobros: ln -s /path/to/some/folder ~/Desktop/nameofitemondesktop |
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| 21:40.48 | Caelum | moope1: no idea then, doesn't make much sense to me |
| 21:40.54 | asdzxc_ | \amethyst so i will be getting this error until another stable relase will be out ? |
| 21:41.01 | tomatobros | stew, thx |
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| 21:41.21 | asdzxc_ | \amethyst it's not very good, i'm getting this error about 20x per day |
| 21:42.04 | \amethyst | asdzxc_: are you reloading apache 20 times per day? |
| 21:42.13 | ringo999 | hi. im reinstalling my debian. i want three partitions: /, /home, swap. /home and swap should be encrypted. im using the graphical installer. and now im stuck cause i dont know how to do the encryption. i can create a "physical volume for encryption" but how do i say that this one should be /home or swap? please help... |
| 21:42.26 | asdzxc_ | \amethyst yes |
| 21:42.33 | asdzxc_ | \amethyst maybe even more |
| 21:42.39 | asdzxc_ | don't know exactly |
| 21:42.42 | ciol | \amethyst & Buglouse: you're wrong, >= serious bugs are fixed too |
| 21:43.05 | asdzxc_ | i'm doing it via script everytime any user adds an subdomain |
| 21:43.25 | asdzxc_ | (via web interface) |
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| 21:43.26 | stew | ciol: no, serious bugs are not necessarily fixed, only those rendering a package unusable |
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| 21:44.10 | ciol | hmm, so asdzxc should prove it is unusable |
| 21:44.25 | nvz | stew: thanks for the groot tip, that should work like charm. I've completly overlooked it in the config |
| 21:44.46 | \amethyst | asdzxc_: you could backport apache2, or wait until there's a backport on bpo |
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| 21:46.03 | stew | oh its not "package unusable", its critical bugs and bugs making the package uninstallable: http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-upload-stable |
| 21:46.48 | stew | an usually a package only become uninstallable beucase of security upgrades of other packages |
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| 21:47.20 | asdzxc_ | so there's no chance it will be fixed :) damn! |
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| 21:48.21 | stew | not unless it is a security vulnerability or it is causing data loss, basically |
| 21:48.31 | Bushmills | asdzxc, "The apache webserver is still responsive after the error, so I think it's not a very serious bug." - what problems do you experience yourself from the error? |
| 21:48.31 | gordo | um i need some more help with battlefield 2142, i tried to download the direct x file to "c:/windows/system32" but it says that the directory doesnt exist |
| 21:49.02 | ringo999 | i think i figured it out. i have to configure the volume first... |
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| 21:49.22 | ringo999 | is it recommended to have a /boot partition? |
| 21:49.57 | asdzxc_ | Bushmills when someone says 'that's not a serious error' it doesn't means it really isn't |
| 21:50.02 | Max_- | Can a user be part of many usergroups at once? |
| 21:50.09 | xand | Max_-: of course |
| 21:50.12 | asdzxc_ | Bushmills do you know exactly what kind of error it is ? |
| 21:50.18 | Szeraax | Max_-: yes |
| 21:50.22 | Max_- | xand: thanks, how do I add myself to a group? |
| 21:50.30 | xand | Max_-: you don't, root does |
| 21:50.34 | xand | gpasswd -a user group |
| 21:50.46 | Max_- | okay, thanks :) |
| 21:50.51 | Bushmills | asdzxc, no, but i hoped i could get an idea by you telling us how the error manifests |
| 21:51.41 | ringo999 | how big should a /boot partition be? |
| 21:51.41 | asdzxc_ | Bushmills i don't know it too. but i also can't say if it will do nothing in any situacion |
| 21:51.52 | asdzxc_ | Bushmills it's a bug which means something is wrong |
| 21:52.40 | stew | gordo: are you in the wrong channel? what is c:? |
| 21:52.51 | themill | heh |
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| 21:53.20 | ringo999 | is it recommended to have / ecrypted as well, or is swap and /home enough? |
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| 21:53.50 | themill | stew: I've head some old-timers who used some legacy OS from the pacific northwest talk about some C: thing before... know little about it myself though. |
| 21:53.54 | Szeraax | ringo999: do you care about personal data or more than that? (modules, packages?) |
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| 21:54.12 | node_6 | hi all :) |
| 21:54.14 | Szeraax | if personal data, swap\home should be good |
| 21:54.20 | pookey | hi all - I need to install a newer version of PHP on my etch machine - it's been a long time since I'be used debian, and apt-get.org isn't helping (just far too slow) - can anyone suggest how I might do this? |
| 21:54.36 | ringo999 | Szeraax: alright. |
| 21:55.03 | themill | pookey: what in particular do you need from php > 5.2.0? |
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| 21:55.09 | stew | pookey: what version of php do you need? |
| 21:55.24 | pookey | stew: 5.2.3 or higher.. which means.. 5.2.3 or 5.2.4 I guess ;) |
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| 21:55.41 | pookey | themill: stability ;) |
| 21:55.53 | asdzxc_ | Bushmills if i knew Etch will be doing this i'll stay at Sarge.. |
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| 21:56.11 | stew | pookey: you'll have to backport it from unstable then: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 21:56.12 | themill | pookey: hmmm... 5.2.0 isn't that unstable. It's just horribly broken in various ways :) |
| 21:56.32 | pookey | themill: the code I'm running segfauls in anything less then 5.2.3 it seems |
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| 21:57.20 | themill | pookey: nice... one of those "it shouldn't happen" situations. You're not trying to force in extra php modules are you? You're doing that with pure php code? |
| 21:57.32 | pookey | themill: pure PHP |
| 21:57.39 | themill | pookey: PDO? |
| 21:57.54 | pookey | themill: using PDO, but I don't think it's related directly |
| 21:58.13 | ringo999 | is it possible to put two parititons (/home and swap) into one excrypted volume? |
| 21:58.20 | themill | pookey: just wondering, as it seems that PDO was pretty broken until about 5.2.3 or so. |
| 21:58.23 | pettern | any suggestions to what im missing when i get this output from fglrxinfo? http://pastebin.no/2715 |
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| 21:59.03 | themill | pookey: as stew said, a backport is what you're going to need to do... php isn't that "simple" as far as simple sid backports go, but it's not that bad. |
| 21:59.20 | ringo999 | or do I actually need to encrypted volumes, one for swap and one for /home each |
| 21:59.27 | ringo999 | which would mean two passwords... |
| 21:59.28 | themill | pookey: 5.2.4 is in sid, 5.2.3 is in lenny. |
| 21:59.29 | pookey | themill: any way to searhc backports.org for it? I cna't see a search thing on the ite |
| 21:59.41 | themill | pookey: it's not on bpo :( |
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| 22:00.06 | pookey | darn it- the Xen VM I have to sort this out on have 50meg of space left too, I can't backport in that little space :) |
| 22:00.19 | node_6 | where can I find out if next release will have 2.6.23 kernel? |
| 22:00.28 | azeem | node_6: nowhere |
| 22:00.35 | streuner | !kernel |
| 22:00.37 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.23.1, snapshot: 2.6.23-git17, 2.4: 2.4.35.3, prepatch: 2.4.36-pre1, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.23-mm1 |
| 22:00.57 | streuner | node_6: it wasnt about 1-2 weeks not in unstable |
| 22:01.01 | streuner | IIRC |
| 22:01.13 | streuner | node_6: why do you think you need -23? |
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| 22:01.23 | node_6 | streuner: I don't recall saying that ... |
| 22:01.23 | wols | node_6: cosidering the next release is at least a year off, with very aggressive assumptions, then I am fairly youre it won't ship with 2.6.23 but something higher |
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| 22:02.37 | node_6 | wols: alrighty. I'm eager to try the new CFS |
| 22:02.56 | bazz | how do i interpret the stepping field in /proc/cpuinfo for a speedstep processor? also, how can i change it? |
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| 22:04.16 | Max_- | umount: /home/max/F: device is busy |
| 22:04.33 | Max_- | I bet it's not |
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| 22:04.46 | stew | Max_-: i bet it is |
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| 22:04.53 | Max_- | lol |
| 22:05.02 | Max_- | how is it and how to fix that.. gotta umount |
| 22:05.15 | ringo999 | ah i figured it out. created lvm on excrypted volume, and within logical volumes which i could mount... |
| 22:05.15 | stew | Max_-: close whatever files are open on it. lsof should help you find the open files |
| 22:05.30 | stew | Max_-: if you have a shell that is cd'd to that directory, that counts as an open file |
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| 22:05.49 | Max_- | ok.. thanks! |
| 22:06.01 | dondelelcaro | ('course, it'll take longer if your IMAP server or connection is crap) |
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| 22:06.06 | gordo | i am trying to get battlefield 2142 to work on my computer |
| 22:06.20 | gordo | it will install but wont run on debian |
| 22:06.50 | gordo | i am using the newest version of wine |
| 22:06.52 | themill | gordo: is this a windoze program? |
| 22:07.03 | streuner | sue |
| 22:07.05 | streuner | sure |
| 22:07.07 | gordo | for windows xp |
| 22:07.22 | themill | gordo: ask the people in a wine-specific forum as they'll be much more helpful than we can be with wine related problems. |
| 22:07.27 | wols | and it uses copy protection |
| 22:08.05 | gordo | o ok thanks |
| 22:08.36 | Max_- | stew: o.0 Nothing's open in the mounted directories... |
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| 22:09.56 | Max_- | I'll fix this otherwise... |
| 22:09.57 | stew | Max_-: "lsof | grep /home/max/F" return anything? |
| 22:10.06 | Max_- | nothing |
| 22:10.23 | themill | Max_-: have you tried umount again? |
| 22:10.29 | Max_- | yup |
| 22:11.21 | Max_- | I guess I'll have to comment some lines in fstab and restart :S |
| 22:11.26 | themill | Max_-: any konqueror or nautilus windows open? (at all?) |
| 22:11.32 | Max_- | yes konq |
| 22:11.39 | stew | Max_-: how about "fuser -m //home/max/F" |
| 22:11.46 | stew | err, without the extra / |
| 22:12.08 | Max_- | themill: closed it and it didn't change anything |
| 22:12.27 | themill | Max_-: konqi is bad about keeping a directory open like that. Even when you close that window as it keeps a background process running :( |
| 22:12.38 | Max_- | ok.. good to know |
| 22:12.47 | Max_- | tryin stew's trick... |
| 22:13.02 | Max_- | returned 3323 |
| 22:13.30 | themill | Max_-: it's got better though. I think there are extra tests if you mount under /media. (gamin and fam also treat things under /media differently) |
| 22:13.38 | Max_- | if it's a PID, it corresponds to famd... which I don't know |
| 22:13.53 | Max_- | oh... |
| 22:14.14 | themill | famd is a file change monitoring tool that konqi and others use to see if a directory has changed while they are showing it to you. |
| 22:14.16 | Max_- | I should think about trying it |
| 22:14.28 | Max_- | themill: should I simply kill it? |
| 22:14.51 | Max_- | it's the same process blocking the 3 mountpoints |
| 22:15.49 | Max_- | killed. |
| 22:16.11 | themill | Max_-: ummm... konqi *should* unregister it's interest in the directory when you close all its windows. You could pkill konqi which might be a little less drastic than killing fam. KDE used to behave very badly if you killed fam. It wouldn't reconnect until you logged in again. |
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| 22:16.41 | Max_- | doh |
| 22:17.05 | themill | Max_-: newer kde might behave better of course... :) |
| 22:17.08 | Max_- | I closed all konq before.. but fam was still there... well.. I'll see what happen |
| 22:17.35 | Max_- | 3 FSes unmounted :) |
| 22:17.52 | Max_- | now I can do my find / w/o waiting an hour :) |
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| 22:19.20 | themill | Max_-: you might like to look at the -mount option to find ;) |
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| 22:19.40 | Max_- | ahhh.. you're not serious... |
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| 22:19.42 | Max_- | lol |
| 22:19.43 | themill | Max_-: (or xdev) |
| 22:19.46 | monk | hello guys |
| 22:20.01 | monk | i heard gentoo users making fun of debian users : ( |
| 22:20.04 | monk | i feel bad |
| 22:20.15 | Max_- | ahah.. I should just print the whole man on my walls... >.< |
| 22:20.16 | themill | !tell Max_- about xyproblem |
| 22:20.31 | Max_- | nothing |
| 22:20.36 | themill | !tell Max_- about xy problem |
| 22:20.42 | themill | dpkg: stupid bot |
| 22:20.42 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
| 22:20.50 | streuner | haha |
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| 22:21.14 | Max_- | haha |
| 22:21.17 | streuner | monk: wanna start a flame war? :-) |
| 22:21.26 | stew | !xyproblem is <reply> see xy problem |
| 22:21.27 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 22:21.31 | themill | Max_-: thought you might appreciate that now ;) |
| 22:21.40 | monk | streuner I love flame wars |
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| 22:21.52 | streuner | go to slashdot in that case :-) |
| 22:22.08 | stew | Max_-: what are you trying to find? should you perhaps be using locate? |
| 22:22.37 | themill | Max_-: have you looked at slocate/locate? |
| 22:22.41 | themill | stew: snap... ;) |
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| 22:22.54 | Max_- | , no locate would not be of any help.. (i think, I've not read the man on this) just did a little find / -group games -print0 | xargs -0 chown max:max |
| 22:23.06 | Max_- | and now I have it working :) |
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| 22:23.33 | irule_ | I tried backports and installed mysql-5 on a sarge, so I then put the same sources.list and preferences file on the next sarge, and I get error messages, how can I fix this? |
| 22:23.41 | stew | Max_-: are you sure you didn't want to just "adduser max games"? |
| 22:24.02 | stew | irule_: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 22:24.10 | n_np_ | sup stew |
| 22:24.18 | irule_ | stew ok |
| 22:24.41 | Max_- | stew: did gpasswd -a max games and it didn'T work... . |
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| 22:25.05 | Max_- | so I thought that changing the user, as it was suggested in the installation itself could fix the problem |
| 22:25.10 | stew | Max_-: what makes you say it didn't work? |
| 22:25.26 | Max_- | couldn'T see the icons, and the game didn'T work more |
| 22:25.32 | themill | Max_-: did you log out and then back in again after adding yourself to the group? |
| 22:25.40 | Max_- | ... re-doh |
| 22:26.16 | irule_ | stew this is my problem with backports http://pastebin.ca/746055 |
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| 22:26.51 | themill | irule_: sarge is not stable any more; etch is stable |
| 22:26.51 | stew | irule_: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main non-free contrib is pointing to etch, not sarge |
| 22:28.08 | themill | !tell irule_ about etch |
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| 22:29.00 | irule_ | themill thanks man but I cant upgrade nor reinstall because the server is houndreds of miles away and there is nobody to help me recover a disaster |
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| 22:29.38 | themill | irule_: that's fine, but you can't mix "sarge" and "stable" in your config... you can mix "etch" and "stable" or "sarge" and "oldstable". |
| 22:29.41 | stew | irule_: what version does "dpkg -l libc6" print? |
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| 22:30.50 | madpenguin8 | hello |
| 22:31.13 | irule_ | stew http://pastebin.ca/746062 |
| 22:31.33 | irule_ | oh I miss the old days when I could flood a little ;) |
| 22:31.40 | madpenguin8 | I've been asked to add a debian/ dir to my source code, where can I find info on that? |
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| 22:31.58 | stew | irule_: why do you have o=Debian pinned at -10? |
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| 22:32.26 | |DuReX| | hello, how can i upgrade kernel on my debian system, but newer then 2.6.18-5-amd64 |
| 22:32.31 | irule_ | stew I just copied that from a website stating how to user backports :S |
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| 22:33.11 | dia2x | hi, what should I do if I receive this error message when installing a deb pkg? ' subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1' |
| 22:33.15 | themill | |DuReX|: 2.6.22 is available from backports.org if you want. /msg dpkg backports.org |
| 22:33.35 | irule_ | |DuReX| www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch |
| 22:33.45 | stew | irule_: i would recommend getting rid of your preferences completely, and changing "stable" to "sarge" in your sources.list |
| 22:34.37 | irule_ | it works, thanks a lot stew |
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| 22:35.11 | dia2x | no clues? |
| 22:35.12 | kubitz | Hi there I've had an odd thing happen and I wondered if you can shed any light on it. I have an old Compaq computer that I wanted to bring back to life - this one in fact - well I changed the hard drive and one of the IDE cables to give it working parts. But when I tried to reinstall windows 98, I couldn't get fdisk to recognise the new disk. Then I found i could no longer enter the bios setup either. |
| 22:35.22 | kubitz | After trying a systems I eventualy succeeded in installing Debian. I still can't get into the bios even now I have an otherwise working system. Any ideas what's going on here? Why can I install Debian but not windows? And why am I permanently locked out of the bios? |
| 22:35.45 | dotCOMmie | has anyone done nfsroot with nfsv4? |
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| 22:35.55 | themill | dia2x: you'll need to pastebin the entire output of the command including details of the package that you're trying to remove for us to be able to help. |
| 22:36.17 | dalias | kubitz, this is a not much of a debian question |
| 22:36.26 | dalias | i'd say try resetting the bios |
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| 22:36.35 | kubitz | I don't know who to ask? |
| 22:36.36 | dalias | with the reset jumper or by pulling the battery out for a long time |
| 22:36.52 | Tsarin | I've been running debian Stable / Sarge for some time. Is there anything I can do now that there is a new release? Is this a manual update? |
| 22:37.03 | stew | Tsarin: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 22:37.03 | irule_ | kubitz I know how to reset BIOS on a dekstop, not a laptop, you may try to investigate that |
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| 22:37.17 | kubitz | I tried that. It worked to the extent of going to the defualts but I still can't enter the normal way |
| 22:37.40 | node_6 | it's probably still a matter of shorting a jumper on the board |
| 22:37.42 | stew | kubitz: are you sure you are hitting the right key to get into the bios? |
| 22:37.43 | kubitz | Someone I was speaking to said they seemed to remember there was something weird about Compaq bioses? |
| 22:37.45 | Tsarin | stew: not sure what that means |
| 22:37.52 | stew | kubitz: are you using a usb keyboard when you should be trying a ps2 keyboard |
| 22:37.58 | stew | dpkg: tell Tsarin about sarge->etch |
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| 22:38.01 | kubitz | Stew well I'm hitting the same one that always used to work |
| 22:38.08 | kubitz | namely F10 |
| 22:38.24 | irule_ | kubitz most pcs have an "load optimal/safe/performance defaults" option |
| 22:38.25 | Tsarin | ahhh cool - thank you |
| 22:38.47 | dia2x | themill, there is the error: http://pastebin.ca/746070 and I was trying to install thinclientserver from 2x |
| 22:39.03 | kubitz | i suppose this has to do more with changing the cable than what I've installed right? |
| 22:39.55 | DustyBin | cowsay - A configurable talking cow <-- wtf is this? :-S |
| 22:39.55 | stew | kubitz: i doubt this has anything to do with hard drives |
| 22:40.21 | kubitz | Stew no it seems unlikely doesn't it I'm just very confused |
| 22:40.28 | dia2x | where are the post-installation scripts located? |
| 22:40.35 | stew | kubitz: how is your keyboard attached? |
| 22:40.43 | kubitz | PS2 |
| 22:40.45 | stew | dia2x: /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 22:40.46 | xand | kubitz: try ##hardware |
| 22:40.56 | kubitz | The only USB device is asoundcard |
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| 22:41.27 | stew | kubitz: is your f10 key broken? |
| 22:41.27 | Arafangion | Hey guys, how do I install lilo to my usb disk such that that usb disk can boot itself? |
| 22:41.31 | Tsarin | so a while back there was an enormous upgrade that happened, like 800 packages. How can I (do I) find out if I'm already running etch? |
| 22:41.32 | dia2x | How can I test a post-installation script,. in order to locate an error? |
| 22:41.32 | Arafangion | (ie, boot the kernel that is on /dev/sda1) |
| 22:41.35 | kubitz | Stew now i'm going to sound bloody stupid but that hadn't occurred to me |
| 22:41.53 | kubitz | I'm just trying to think If I ever use it otherwise |
| 22:42.08 | stew | dia2x: put "set -x" as the second line of the script so you can watch what it does, then "dpkg-reconfigure packagename" |
| 22:42.28 | kubitz | I might just swap keyboards. That could be it |
| 22:42.32 | dia2x | stew, I have to reinstall the pgk right? |
| 22:42.32 | stew | dia2x: if you have the source of the package and want to do more rigorous testing, use piuparts |
| 22:42.36 | kubitz | Damn I bet it is |
| 22:42.42 | techouse | hahaha...debian-art haha :) copy of deviantarat :D |
| 22:42.46 | dia2x | stew, I just have a .deb pkg |
| 22:43.09 | stew | dia2x: if the package is installed or half-installed, you don't have to reinstall it, just "dpkg-reconfigure packagename" |
| 22:43.22 | kubitz | I'll be back - very humble if it works :) |
| 22:43.24 | kubitz | Seeya |
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| 22:43.57 | dia2x | stew, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: thinclientserver is broken or not fully installed |
| 22:44.14 | Tsarin | is there a command line tool that will tell me the current kernel I am running? |
| 22:44.29 | themill | Tsarin: uname -r |
| 22:44.43 | Tsarin | thank you |
| 22:45.05 | dia2x | stew, I added the set-x and reinstalled the pkg, then I saw hundreds of lines passing by, this is the way to locate the error? :( |
| 22:45.53 | Tsarin | so if I am running kernel 2.4.27-3-686-smp, does that mean I'm still running sarge? |
| 22:45.55 | stew | dia2x: "apt-get -f install" then |
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| 22:46.02 | stew | dia2x: what makes you say there is an error at all? |
| 22:46.14 | dia2x | stew, http://pastebin.ca/746070 |
| 22:46.15 | stew | Tsarin: that is a sarge kernel, at least |
| 22:46.32 | dia2x | stew, saw it? |
| 22:46.43 | themill | Tsarin: what does libc6 say for the version? |
| 22:46.52 | themill | Tsarin: that should be dplg -l libc6 |
| 22:46.55 | stew | dia2x: yeah, so adding "set -x" to the postinst script will let you see what it was doing when it decided to "exit 1" |
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| 22:47.03 | themill | Tsarin: gah: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 22:47.16 | dia2x | stew, yeah, but there are many lines |
| 22:47.23 | Tsarin | 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 |
| 22:47.28 | dia2x | stew, is set -x with quotes? |
| 22:47.29 | Tsarin | *sigh* |
| 22:47.43 | Tsarin | I'm running a MONGREL! |
| 22:47.51 | stew | dia2x: no quotes. the error is near the end |
| 22:47.52 | themill | Tsarin: yep... |
| 22:47.58 | Tsarin | :( and I only have ssh access |
| 22:48.01 | Tsarin | dang it |
| 22:48.16 | stew | Tsarin: there are thinks known to not work with etch and a 2.4 kernel, notably mysql and (i think) postfix |
| 22:48.21 | themill | Tsarin: your userspace may not be fully upgraded to etch though.... it might only be partly upgrading. You can do sarge->etch over an ssh link. |
| 22:48.36 | madpenguin8 | I've been asked to add a debian/ dir to my source code, where can I find info on that? |
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| 22:48.43 | Tsarin | well, reading http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html now |
| 22:48.43 | stew | Tsarin: you should also note that some device names (notably SATA hard drives and maybe ethernet cards) can change from 2.4 -> 2.6 |
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| 22:49.04 | Tsarin | repeat - the CAN change? |
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| 22:49.09 | themill | madpenguin8: are you writing a package that someone else wants to package up for debian? |
| 22:49.15 | stew | Tsarin: yes, reading the release notes and following those (even if you are already partially upgraded) is your best course of action |
| 22:49.24 | madpenguin8 | themill: yes |
| 22:49.26 | mosty | some of my programs can't resolve dns names (eg ping), but other programs can resolve them fine (eg host, nslookup). when i use ping, there is no activity in my dnscache log. how can i figure out why ping isn't trying to resolve this (local) domain name? |
| 22:49.29 | Tsarin | not using mysql or postfix |
| 22:49.38 | stew | Tsarin: yes. if you have a SATA hard drive, they WILL change. if you don't they probably won't but ethernet can likely change |
| 22:49.48 | themill | madpenguin8: in that case you should *not* provide a debian directory in the source download. |
| 22:49.50 | Tsarin | I think I got the etch libc6 upgraded, and lots of packages along with it unintentionally |
| 22:49.52 | dia2x | stew, when I removed the pkg, the post-installation script was removed too, so where am I going to add the 'set -x' line? |
| 22:50.21 | stew | dia2x: you are going to add it to the postinst script after you try to install it |
| 22:50.34 | Tsarin | stew: "they WILL change" what does "they" refer to? |
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| 22:50.45 | themill | madpenguin8: You can provide the debian dir as a separate download or host it in your source repository, but upstream should not include a debian directory in their source tarballs as it really makes packaging much harder. |
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| 22:51.00 | stew | Tsarin: the device names of your hard drive / partitions, /dev/hda might become /dev/sda for instance |
| 22:51.20 | madpenguin8 | themill: can you point me to a faq or smth? |
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| 22:51.38 | themill | madpenguin8: here's a start... I'll look for a better one now too: http://people.debian.org/~daniel/documents/packaging.html |
| 22:51.56 | Tsarin | ahhh |
| 22:52.19 | Tsarin | meaning I have to update /etc/fstab? |
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| 22:52.26 | madpenguin8 | themill: tnx |
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| 22:52.42 | j1tters | does anyone here have experience with debian on alpha machines. ? |
| 22:53.00 | moope1 | I am having problems with grep :( how do I find a line in a load of files? |
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| 22:53.10 | Tsarin | I think the drives are ultra ATA, but not sure |
| 22:53.18 | stew | Tsarin: you would have to update your fstab and your bootloader if you are in this situation. if you are, it might be recommended to use labels or uuids to refer to devices instead of /dev nodes |
| 22:53.41 | stew | Tsarin: if you show us the output of "lspci" we can probably tell you. use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 22:53.58 | dia2x | stew, I cant see the error, there are the last lines, can you see something that helps me? http://pastebin.ca/746091 |
| 22:54.24 | dia2x | stew, maybe I can redirect all the output to a text file |
| 22:55.05 | themill | madpenguin8: the reason for saying that is that the one upstream source tarball may be repackaged by the debian maintainer several times (i.e. your version 1.2.3 is released as 1.2.3-1, 1.2.3-2 etc) with typos, translation fixes, perhaps even some security patches being done for each debian revision even though it's based on your same release 1.2.3. All these changes are contained in the debian/ dir and if that already exists, then it gets much harder to do |
| 22:55.05 | themill | all that. |
| 22:55.13 | Tsarin | lspci output: http://pastie.caboo.se/109882 |
| 22:55.42 | Tsarin | looks like all ide stuff |
| 22:55.49 | madpenguin8 | themill: I see |
| 22:56.16 | stew | dia2x: where did this deb come from? |
| 22:56.30 | dia2x | 2x.com |
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| 22:57.00 | j1tters | was that a no on anyone running deb on an alpha machine? |
| 22:57.03 | themill | madpenguin8: But if you're just providing a .deb for someone to download and install using dpkg -i, then there's no reason you can't create the contents of the debian/ dir yourself. Just please don't include it in the source tarball that you distribute to others ;) |
| 22:58.11 | dia2x | stew, http://www.2x.com/thinclientserver/ |
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| 22:59.00 | stew | dia2x: sorry i'm not going to be of much help |
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| 22:59.42 | dia2x | stew, ok , they dont give support either.. I will try with a rpm distro to see how it goes |
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| 22:59.45 | dia2x | ty |
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| 23:00.07 | xand | ew |
| 23:00.22 | madpenguin8 | themill: thanks for the help |
| 23:00.22 | j1tters | anyone know if there is a debian room strictly for alpha ? |
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| 23:00.32 | streuner | no |
| 23:00.32 | xand | !room |
| 23:00.33 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 23:00.36 | abrotman | j1tters: just #alpha .. which usually isn't much help |
| 23:00.42 | abrotman | though there is a mailing list IIRC |
| 23:00.45 | streuner | only a few people use alpha in Debian |
| 23:00.46 | j1tters | yeh they were about no help. |
| 23:00.52 | stew | j1tters: #debian-alpha on irc.debian.org |
| 23:00.53 | xand | brrrrrr... it's freezing :( |
| 23:00.53 | streuner | just follow the advice of abrotman |
| 23:00.55 | j1tters | actually they were no answer |
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| 23:01.02 | j1tters | hey thanks stew |
| 23:01.03 | abrotman | j1tters: what kind of question is it ? |
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| 23:01.07 | streuner | have some patience then |
| 23:01.13 | themill | madpenguin8: no worries. If you want to make a package, then /msg dpkg nmg |
| 23:01.20 | j1tters | its an install question. im totally lost. read everything i could find. but wow. |
| 23:01.29 | abrotman | streuner: it's not patience .. they literally can't help :) |
| 23:01.45 | streuner | abrotman: hm :-/ |
| 23:01.45 | abrotman | j1tters: what kind of question? (fair warning: all my alpha installs were from floppy) |
| 23:01.47 | j1tters | i inherited an dec ds20e. and figured it would be put in cd . install. i was wrong |
| 23:01.54 | themill | madpenguin8: the new maintainer's guide has lots of useful stuff in it. And ask questions in #debian-mentors on oftc. (that's a better place for such questions than here) |
| 23:01.54 | xtor_ | Is there any utility similar to iftop that can show me, in a shell window, which IP addresses are consuming the most bandwidth? I have heard of utils like "darkstat" and "ntop" but neither one of those is working too well on my shell for some reason |
| 23:02.09 | wols | xtor_: iptraf |
| 23:02.33 | abrotman | xtor_: jnettop |
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| 23:02.44 | abrotman | j1tters: what doesn't work? |
| 23:02.47 | madpenguin8 | themill: thanks again |
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| 23:02.51 | xtor_ | wols that does not organise IPs in order of bandwidth used |
| 23:02.59 | wols | xtor_: it can |
| 23:03.07 | themill | madpenguin8: no worries... :) |
| 23:03.09 | xtor_ | wols, RTFM? |
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| 23:03.19 | abrotman | he can be taught! |
| 23:03.20 | petemc | ip traffic monitor, sort by bandwidth |
| 23:03.24 | mosty | how can i figure out why ping isn't querying my dns cache for some hostnames? |
| 23:03.43 | petemc | lan station monitor, even |
| 23:03.47 | j1tters | its talking about srm etc. and all this. its probably more of an alpha question but i figured id ask |
| 23:03.54 | xtor_ | I just have ssh access to a LAMP box here |
| 23:03.59 | abrotman | srm is your bootloader .. there's also ARC |
| 23:04.07 | wols | ip traffic monitor, then follow the index on the last line (s for sort) |
| 23:04.16 | petemc | s,b |
| 23:04.22 | j1tters | i sorta got that. but i dont even get that. it loads. i dont get an option for bios. it boots right to openvms |
| 23:04.26 | abrotman | erm .. not bootloader .. that was awful .. SRM is like your bios .. or as close as you get in alpha world |
| 23:04.32 | j1tters | ahhh |
| 23:04.52 | abrotman | j1tters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Reference_Manual |
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| 23:04.57 | morydd_lap | when running dpkg-query how do I interpret the "ii" "ic" "rc" notations at the begining of each line? |
| 23:05.02 | j1tters | it basically goes right to an openvms login screen. |
| 23:05.05 | j1tters | thanks abrotman |
| 23:05.15 | abrotman | j1tters: you have to hit .. ctrl-c i think |
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| 23:05.38 | abrotman | j1tters: you have to interrupt the boot process .. and change the boot parameters IIRC |
| 23:06.04 | wols | abrotman: no surprises alpha died out |
| 23:06.05 | wols | := |
| 23:06.07 | wols | :) |
| 23:06.17 | abrotman | wols: it's actually not too bad |
| 23:06.23 | j1tters | yeh thats sorta what i got out of all i read |
| 23:07.03 | j1tters | hey come on its a neat machine. i couldnt turn it down. dual proc. triple power supplies. it was an expeisive system 3 years ago. i'd just like to make use of it. cant blame me for that |
| 23:07.35 | j1tters | er expensive |
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| 23:08.21 | wols | how many megahurtz and how much ram? |
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| 23:08.46 | j1tters | dual 667's and 8 gig |
| 23:08.51 | stouset | Is there a way to install a .deb on the filesystem, while pulling in all dependencies? |
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| 23:08.53 | j1tters | 5 drive raid |
| 23:09.06 | stouset | dpkg won't fetch dependencies, and aptitude/apt-get won't install from a local file, best I can tell. :) |
| 23:09.20 | abrotman | j1tters: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=SRM+manual+Alpha&btnG=Search .. the first (i read the HTML version) probably has *way* more info than you want to know about SRM |
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| 23:09.31 | abrotman | stouset: dpkg -i file.deb && aptitude -f install |
| 23:09.42 | petemc | gdebi |
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| 23:10.31 | stew | abrotman: you don't want && there i dont' think |
| 23:10.51 | abrotman | i don't think it will hurt |
| 23:11.05 | j1tters | actually i've been reading that. and yes. its way more complicated that i thought. |
| 23:11.11 | stew | you want ; since you know that the dpkg -i is going to fail |
| 23:11.11 | wols | would dpkg -i even work without satisfied dependencies? |
| 23:11.37 | stouset | abrotman: That'll do the trick. Seems kind of sad it can't be handled by aptitude, thouugh. |
| 23:11.42 | stouset | s/uu/u/ |
| 23:11.43 | abrotman | stew: i think it exits successfully though |
| 23:11.48 | stew | oh, does it? |
| 23:11.56 | abrotman | stew: i've used it before .. never had it not work |
| 23:11.58 | stouset | abrotman: I'll check it. |
| 23:12.05 | abrotman | stew: but i'm crazy :) |
| 23:12.21 | stouset | abrotman: It'd be odd if dpkg returned 0 on failure to install, though. |
| 23:12.22 | abrotman | j1tters: and you've seen alphalinux.org .. right ? |
| 23:12.25 | Tsarin | when I do a "dpkg --get-selections" - what does "deinstall" mean? Does it mean that it has been removed? |
| 23:12.35 | Tsarin | or that it will be removed later? |
| 23:12.50 | Tsarin | the man page says "we want to remove all files except config files" |
| 23:12.51 | j1tters | abrotman. yeh thats where i read the srm how to. which dang near made my head explode |
| 23:12.56 | abrotman | oh |
| 23:13.06 | stew | Tsarin: it means you desire the package to not be installed. it says nothing about whether or not it is currently installed |
| 23:13.36 | abrotman | j1tters: basically .. as soon as you start seeing e0 .. ad .. b3 .. etc .. hit ctrl-c or ctrl-z .. basically .. ctrl+somethingontheleftside of the .us qwerty keyboard .. (i can |
| 23:13.42 | Tsarin | oh |
| 23:13.42 | abrotman | 't remember exactly which |
| 23:13.46 | j1tters | nods |
| 23:13.59 | abrotman | j1tters: then you tell SRM to boot from the CD |
| 23:14.03 | stew | Tsarin: in general it means that you installed it and then removed it. it could in rare cases mean you asked to have to be removed but for some reason it hasn't yet been removed |
| 23:14.15 | abrotman | j1tters: FWIW .. i found it way easier to make the floppy installer work :) |
| 23:14.48 | j1tters | actually cant boot from cd. from what i've gotten. is you have to make a small partition on a drive. put the kernal there. then install aboot. then srm will boot and hand off to aboot and start a kernal which will then let you actuall load a distro |
| 23:14.55 | abrotman | j1tters: you saw this: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SRM-HOWTO/ ? |
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| 23:15.51 | j1tters | hmm. no. looking at it now |
| 23:16.00 | abrotman | though it's also a lot of info |
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| 23:16.28 | morydd_lap | how do I interpret the first column output (ii, rc, ic) of dpkg-query? |
| 23:16.28 | abrotman | i also don't know how up to date it is .. (though really .. how recently has alpha/srm been updated :) |
| 23:16.30 | j1tters | all i know is alpha seems to not be for the faint of heart |
| 23:16.35 | abrotman | morydd_lap: tells you at the top |
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| 23:16.40 | abrotman | j1tters: send it to me? :) |
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| 23:17.13 | j1tters | hell no. that think weighs 200 pounds. shipping would be brutal. plus i want to get that thing serving my websites. |
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| 23:17.25 | abrotman | j1tters: i'll pick it up! |
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| 23:17.46 | bucketfan99 | hello |
| 23:17.46 | j1tters | lol. where are you geographically. if i dont get it running in a month its yours |
| 23:17.58 | bucketfan99 | i am tryin to install debian, it loads from the cd, then says it cant find the cd driver |
| 23:18.03 | stew | now he's going to stop helping you for a month |
| 23:18.05 | abrotman | j1tters: based on your hostmask . i'm within 5 hours :) |
| 23:18.08 | j1tters | yeh i know stew. |
| 23:18.18 | bucketfan99 | which to me is rather confusing :) anyone know what i should be doing |
| 23:18.47 | j1tters | its ok abrotman. im getting two more of them in the next 2 months. ( father is chief engineer for a tv station here. and i get all the old stuff) |
| 23:18.51 | stew | bucketfan99: are you using testing? |
| 23:18.57 | bucketfan99 | nah stable |
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| 23:19.08 | bucketfan99 | and i grabbed the 650 meg one |
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| 23:19.14 | stew | bucketfan99: piix controller? |
| 23:19.16 | abrotman | j1tters: unless you're on the west side of the state .. it wouldn't be far at all :) |
| 23:19.27 | bucketfan99 | stew i dont know what that is, but id assume not for some reason :) |
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| 23:19.41 | j1tters | east side. hour west of philly |
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| 23:20.06 | abrotman | j1tters: not a problem .. i'll swing down to Stoudt's in Adamstown .. and you can meet me there! |
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| 23:20.17 | j1tters | haa haaa. nice |
| 23:20.20 | ShadowPhoenix | How do I find out what files I have at http://myIp/ampache/config ? |
| 23:20.26 | j1tters | your not getting my machines!!! |
| 23:20.33 | abrotman | okay okay ... |
| 23:20.37 | ShadowPhoenix | Should that files be at /var/www/ampache/config? |
| 23:20.45 | j1tters | i have an as400 you can have. hell it would free up some space. |
| 23:20.48 | abrotman | j1tters: once you get the SRM to listen to you .. it gets way way easier |
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| 23:21.18 | bucketfan99 | HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM |
| 23:21.22 | bucketfan99 | that is what it says it is |
| 23:21.57 | bobf | Can you guys talk a bit more? I'm trying to test the scrolling in my client. ;-) |
| 23:22.11 | abrotman | did bobf ask a question ? |
| 23:22.12 | j1tters | abrotman thats what it seems like. |
| 23:22.18 | abrotman | bobf: you can try #flood :) |
| 23:22.23 | themill | !lart bobf |
| 23:22.24 | bobf | Ah, good idea. |
| 23:22.34 | themill | (that took up two lines, bobf) |
| 23:22.42 | bobf | Much obliged. |
| 23:22.44 | bobf | :-) |
| 23:23.00 | bucketfan99 | also, anyone know the diff between CD-1 -> CD-26 .sio are ? |
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| 23:23.38 | MASoft | bucketfan99: difference ? Each one has different packages :) |
| 23:23.55 | bucketfan99 | i thought perhaps different driver sets |
| 23:24.08 | stouset | abrotman: Your && aptitude -f install trick didn't work |
| 23:24.12 | stouset | abrotman: It's || aptitude -f install |
| 23:24.16 | bucketfan99 | i dont understand how this cd can boot to the point it loads the installer, then decides that it doesnt know what the cd is |
| 23:24.32 | stew | bucketfan99: no, all the drivers are on the first cd, the other cds contain additional packages for the case where you are installing onto a machine that can't download packages via the internet and you need to install packages from cds instead |
| 23:24.38 | stouset | abrotman: actually, that won't even work, because it tries to uninstall the package with failed deps, rather than install the needed deps |
| 23:24.40 | MASoft | bucketfan99: naah, just different packages ! |
| 23:25.22 | bucketfan99 | so, how do i find out what driver the installer needs ? |
| 23:25.26 | j1tters | hey thanks everyone. im off to fight with this thing. |
| 23:25.32 | MASoft | bucketfan99: The installer works based on the APT system, so you can even change it, add packages or remove them, or use another homemade CDs ... |
| 23:25.57 | j1tters | abrotman 1 month. stoudts. i'll pack them in my car. bring a truck :) |
| 23:25.59 | bucketfan99 | i see. you think the testing installer would have more recent drivers ? |
| 23:26.33 | MASoft | bucketfan99: Most of the things you need can be found in the first CD, and for the rest, you can use mirrors if you have access to high speed internet |
| 23:26.49 | bucketfan99 | ya but how do i find out how to make the installer go past the first step ? :) |
| 23:27.03 | MASoft | bucketfan99: no, Drivers mostly depends on the Kernel and some packages like ALSA ... |
| 23:27.27 | stew | bucketfan99: do you already have a working linux install on this machine? |
| 23:27.40 | stew | hmm, does the installer have lspci? |
| 23:27.42 | bucketfan99 | stew - i have a working ubuntu install, yes. |
| 23:27.48 | bucketfan99 | i want it to be debian. |
| 23:27.51 | MASoft | bucketfan99: you have high speed internet access ? |
| 23:27.53 | bucketfan99 | yes. |
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| 23:28.28 | MASoft | bucketfan99: download the netinst CD, and boot the system using that CD and install it using Internet |
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| 23:28.40 | stew | bucketfan99: ignore MASoft |
| 23:28.40 | bucketfan99 | ok. |
| 23:28.51 | bucketfan99 | LOL |
| 23:28.54 | bucketfan99 | ok stew whats your suggestion |
| 23:28.57 | stew | bucketfan99: boot ubuntu, and run "lspci ; lspci -n" and show us the output, |
| 23:29.08 | stew | bucketfan99: then we can figure out which drive you need for your cdrom |
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| 23:29.39 | stew | MASoft: the netinst cd isn't going to have the same drivers and same installer as cd1, so its not going to get him any further with his problem of detecting the cdrom driver |
| 23:29.51 | ringo999_ | i know there is a speedstep-centrino module, but what package do i have to install to get it working? |
| 23:29.53 | stew | or, 'is going to have' not 'isn't going to have' |
| 23:30.01 | bucketfan99 | http://www.pastebin.ca/746111 |
| 23:30.06 | bucketfan99 | included the lsmod as well |
| 23:30.11 | Tsarin | ok, so Ive done a dist-upgrade but I still have a bunch of sarge packages |
| 23:30.16 | Tsarin | is that correct? |
| 23:30.22 | stew | bucketfan99: what does "readlink -f /dev/cdrom" say? |
| 23:30.38 | stew | bucketfan99: yeah, its piix |
| 23:30.39 | dvs | Tsarin: what are you upgrading to? |
| 23:30.42 | bucketfan99 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.44 | bucketfan99 | whats piix ? |
| 23:30.53 | Tsarin | I'm trying to complete sarge->etch |
| 23:31.03 | Tsarin | following instructions here http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 23:31.05 | dvs | Tsarin: then it's probably wrong |
| 23:31.12 | Tsarin | *nod* |
| 23:31.28 | bucketfan99 | and stew, how do i get by with a piix thingy |
| 23:31.36 | MASoft | bucketfan99: oops, you are concerning the CDROM driver ! I didn't understand the question correctly :( |
| 23:31.38 | dvs | Tsarin: did you do an aptitude update ? |
| 23:31.39 | Tsarin | I got a bunch of etch upgrades without doing it proper |
| 23:31.45 | stew | bucketfan99: its an intel ata chipset |
| 23:31.52 | Tsarin | yup, and uprgade, dist-upgrade |
| 23:31.56 | bucketfan99 | ok. how do i make n install that will work ? |
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| 23:32.01 | stew | bucketfan99: can you boot the installer, and still irc? |
| 23:32.02 | Tsarin | at this point, the dist-upgrade only removed 8 packages |
| 23:32.08 | bucketfan99 | yes |
| 23:32.09 | bucketfan99 | i can |
| 23:32.14 | dvs | Tsarin: then the /etc/apt/sources.list must be wrong |
| 23:32.19 | bucketfan99 | but if there is any more system info i will need, we should get it now |
| 23:32.28 | stew | bucketfan99: look at the ICH8 thing here: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 23:32.35 | Tsarin | 1 sec |
| 23:32.40 | Tsarin | I'll look |
| 23:33.00 | stew | bucketfan99: no, i don't think you need anything else, but if we can't get this, we can have you try an installer from this site that has a newer kernel |
| 23:33.03 | dvs | Tsarin: post it to pastbin.com and paste the link here. |
| 23:33.08 | Tsarin | I have only 1 line uncommented in sources.list: "deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main contrib" |
| 23:33.12 | bucketfan99 | echo "options libata atapi_enabled=1" >> /etc/modprobe.conf |
| 23:33.13 | bucketfan99 | that one ? |
| 23:33.16 | morydd_lap | I'm getting this error when trying to run startx: Error: API mismatch: this NVIDIA driver component has version 96.43.01, but the NVIDIA kernel module's version does not match. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version. |
| 23:33.20 | bucketfan99 | sec |
| 23:33.33 | the_plumber | trying to setup lpr for printing from xfig, currently using CUPS (works great for OO), but cant figure out howto print from xfig? any help? |
| 23:33.40 | dvs | Tsarin: Actually, that looks right |
| 23:33.43 | dvs | hmmm |
| 23:33.46 | Tsarin | full file: http://pastebin.ca/746119 |
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| 23:33.57 | stew | bucketfan99: i would try both things there, the one about ich8 (modprobe ide-generic) and the one about libata |
| 23:34.22 | Tsarin | but... |
| 23:34.24 | morydd_lap | I'm following this guide http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for the legacy-96xx drivers |
| 23:34.35 | dvs | Tsarin: I'd recommend adding the security line too |
| 23:34.41 | Tsarin | "dpkg -l | grep sarge" has this output |
| 23:34.55 | bucketfan99 | okey dokey |
| 23:35.02 | dvs | Tsarin: deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free |
| 23:35.07 | bucketfan99 | i was just going to go through the full list from ubuntu but didnt know how |
| 23:35.11 | bucketfan99 | one sec.. tryin now stew |
| 23:35.14 | Tsarin | http://pastebin.ca/746120 (sarge package list) |
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| 23:36.13 | slidesinger | What is the best tool to use for auto configuring the interfaces on a laptop? |
| 23:36.18 | dvs | Tsarin: Yeah, the kernel packages are the wrong version. It should be 2.4.18 for etch |
| 23:36.18 | Tsarin | ohhhh 27 upgraded |
| 23:36.23 | Tsarin | that was helpful |
| 23:36.27 | dvs | 2.6.18 I mean |
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| 23:36.43 | Tsarin | ahh, yes |
| 23:36.43 | themill_ | slidesinger: either networkmanager or guessnet+ifplugd |
| 23:36.45 | curtmack | hmm |
| 23:36.50 | Tsarin | the instructions were a bit vague on that |
| 23:37.00 | Tsarin | do I have to upgrade the kernel manually? |
| 23:37.13 | curtmack | aptitude confirms that I have the gcc package installed |
| 23:37.15 | bucketfan99 | stew; after i have it in the shell do i load ide-generic the same as the libata ones ? |
| 23:37.18 | slidesinger | themill_: Thank you. I will check them both out. |
| 23:37.19 | dvs | Tsarin: try "aptitude install kernel-image-2.6-686" |
| 23:37.48 | bucketfan99 | all it says is "run expert mode and load" |
| 23:37.53 | bucketfan99 | but i dont know how one does that. |
| 23:38.10 | themill_ | slidesinger: no worries. I used to use guessnet+ifplugd to do a lot of static mumbo jumbo, but now I just use networkmanager with either the -kde or -gnome package for a front end. They do vpn management too ;) |
| 23:38.14 | curtmack | but apparently it's not in my path, because bash throws up a command not found error whenever I try to run gcc |
| 23:38.23 | curtmack | what does this mean? |
| 23:38.28 | themill_ | !b-e curtmack |
| 23:38.28 | dpkg | curtmack: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 23:38.38 | curtmack | I will try that |
| 23:38.44 | themill_ | ummm... maybe not actually... |
| 23:38.54 | stew | bucketfan99: you can load a module by running "alt-f2" then running "modprobe ide-generic" in that shell, then alt-f1 to get back to the installer |
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| 23:39.05 | Tsarin | yup looks like section 4.6 walks me through it |
| 23:39.09 | ringo999_ | my time is out of sync even though the timezone is correct. how do i get it right? |
| 23:39.25 | bucketfan99 | then what |
| 23:39.25 | Tsarin | dvs: thank you |
| 23:39.30 | dvs | np |
| 23:39.33 | shogunx | ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
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| 23:40.32 | curtmack | well |
| 23:40.37 | stouset | Is there a way to prevent dpkg from running the postinst hooks that fire up services? |
| 23:40.43 | curtmack | it said "No package found matching build-essential" or something to that effect |
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| 23:40.56 | stouset | I'm trying to install some things on a VM, but prior to booting the VM. It's in a chrooted environment. |
| 23:40.59 | Kage[Work] | Since no one is talking in #bind, anyone experienced with bind9/named in here feel like helping me in PM? I want to clean up my named configs and setup IN PTR |
| 23:41.01 | curtmack | then it mentioned a dependency error (that I knew about) |
| 23:41.24 | Kage[Work] | (those in #fedora, I sent this message to the wrong channel) |
| 23:41.25 | themill_ | curtmack: what's the output of apt-cache policy libc6 |
| 23:41.28 | stouset | But sometimes the services start (which is a problem, since I can't unmount the filesystem without remembering which started), and sometimes they segfault (also a problem, since it causes dpkg to think they aren't installed correctly) |
| 23:42.25 | bucketfan99 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.28 | bucketfan99 | or just try to continue |
| 23:43.10 | stew | bucketfan99: i would try cd detection again |
| 23:43.15 | bucketfan99 | ok. |
| 23:43.23 | bucketfan99 | one sec i'll try these again.. but so far no dice |
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| 23:43.35 | bucketfan99 | im going to try both things this time |
| 23:43.38 | bucketfan99 | the modprobe and the options line |
| 23:43.42 | Tsarin | what does ii mean on "dpkg -l" |
| 23:43.51 | bucketfan99 | Tsarin - installed |
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| 23:45.04 | curtmack | I saved the output on my ipod, hang on a second |
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| 23:45.35 | bucketfan99 | stew; no luck with either |
| 23:46.00 | bucketfan99 | i do a lsmod and i have both libata and ide-generic |
| 23:46.03 | Tsarin | and is there a difference between kernel-image-2.6-686 and linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 23:46.32 | curtmack | !paste |
| 23:46.32 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
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| 23:46.50 | dvs | Tsarin: linux-image is the newer name |
| 23:46.57 | valdyn | Tsarin: kernel-image is "only" provided for backwards compatiblity |
| 23:47.08 | Tsarin | thanks |
| 23:47.14 | curtmack | http://paste.debian.net/40450 |
| 23:47.31 | stew | bucketfan99: then i'd recommend trying one of the installers from the top of that page which are basically the same installer with a newer kernel (and therefore updated drivers) |
| 23:47.39 | bucketfan99 | ok. |
| 23:47.40 | drasko | hi all. I have trouble making my printer to print two-sided. It is Lexmark E120. Does anybody know where I can ask for help? |
| 23:47.41 | bucketfan99 | will do thanks bud |
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| 23:48.04 | bucketfan99 | is sarge or etch testing |
| 23:48.17 | dvs | bucketfan99: lenny is |
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| 23:48.24 | bucketfan99 | oh. |
| 23:48.26 | themill_ | curtmack: thanks -- is this machine connected to the internet or are you just loading packages off DVDs or CDs? |
| 23:48.28 | bucketfan99 | is etch unstable ? |
| 23:48.35 | curtmack | the latter |
| 23:48.36 | dvs | bucketfan99: etch is stable |
| 23:48.38 | curtmack | I'm sad to say |
| 23:48.44 | bucketfan99 | heh. so sarge is unstable ? |
| 23:48.51 | valdyn | wth |
| 23:48.52 | dvs | bucketfan99: sarge is oldstable |
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| 23:48.55 | bucketfan99 | oh. |
| 23:48.56 | bucketfan99 | lol |
| 23:49.08 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.09 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.09 | themill_ | curtmack: ahh... then the build-essential package is perhaps not on a dvd that you've fed to apt-cdrom |
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| 23:49.35 | curtmack | oh |
| 23:49.36 | curtmack | hmm |
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| 23:49.37 | bucketfan99 | well this has been a crazy irritating day. hopefully one of those will work tomorrow looks like long DL time |
| 23:49.39 | curtmack | that might be the problem |
| 23:49.39 | bucketfan99 | thanks guys.. |
| 23:49.52 | curtmack | perhaps I should put the DVD in the drive... |
| 23:49.58 | Tsarin | are the header packages also renamed linux instead of kernel? |
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| 23:50.08 | stew | Tsarin: yes |
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| 23:50.15 | Tsarin | I don't find a linux-headers-2.6-686-smp |
| 23:50.34 | dvs | Tsarin: there is no smp variation anymore |
| 23:50.42 | stew | Tsarin: forget smp, all 686 kernels are smp now |
| 23:50.42 | dvs | 686 is now smp |
| 23:51.00 | Tsarin | thank you |
| 23:51.17 | abrotman | i thought everything non-486 was smp ? |
| 23:51.27 | dvs | !prize abrotman |
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| 23:51.34 | themill_ | curtmack: it's well past my bed time now.... sorry... others will help :) |
| 23:51.46 | drasko | hi all. How can I list printers in my system? |
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| 23:52.36 | Skaag | is there some special module I can load in Etch to make Sata drives work faster? this box I've upgraded performs really badly... |
| 23:52.41 | bulio | does anyone have a guide on how to setup postfix on etch? |
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| 23:53.06 | bulio | or sendmail, whichever is easier to setup |
| 23:54.12 | abrotman | setup for what? |
| 23:54.16 | Tsarin | smoke test everyone - remote ssh reboot from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel |
| 23:54.18 | abrotman | aptitude install postfix is hard! |
| 23:54.21 | Tsarin | wish me luck |
| 23:54.25 | abrotman | Tsarin: with SATA ? |
| 23:54.29 | Tsarin | no |
| 23:54.36 | curtmack | "E: Couldn't lock list directory... are you root?" |
| 23:54.38 | curtmack | I am. |
| 23:54.39 | bulio | abrotman: to set up a mailserver so I can send & receive mails |
| 23:54.42 | curtmack | That's the problem. |
| 23:54.49 | abrotman | bulio: anything else special about it ? |
| 23:54.52 | bulio | nope |
| 23:55.01 | Tsarin | pci info here http://pastie.caboo.se/109882 |
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| 23:55.05 | abrotman | how are you going to get the mail off the server ? |
| 23:55.10 | bulio | POP3 |
| 23:55.17 | MASoft | bulio: you can find "Perfect Setup" for Debian Etch using Postfix, just google it :) |
| 23:55.24 | Tsarin | I think there will be no SATA issue there |
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| 23:55.32 | Strogg | 'lo 'lo |
| 23:55.33 | bulio | abrotman: or preferably, via a web interface |
| 23:55.54 | abrotman | bulio: you should be able to use something like postfix/courier(pop3 and imapd) |
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| 23:56.42 | bulio | so aptitude install postfix abrotman |
| 23:56.49 | drasko | hi all. How can I list printers in my system? |
| 23:57.10 | Spiritus55 | not |
| 23:57.10 | Spiritus55 | wrong chan |
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| 23:57.26 | abrotman | bulio: do a little research between mbox and maildir .. then pick one .. then ask again |
| 23:57.59 | Skaag | I'm the one who raised the SATA issue, I believe |
| 23:58.10 | Strogg | How do you get debian to reconfigure the exim4 config so that it's all in one file? I've purged exim4 completely and reinstalled it and it still won't prompt me for the config type (single file vs multiple) I want |
| 23:58.12 | Skaag | I have an Etch box with very poor SATA performance |
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| 23:58.35 | ShadowPhoenix | What is the command to see all open ports in debian? |
| 23:58.46 | MASoft | Strogg: did you try dpkg-reconfigure ? |
| 23:58.59 | Strogg | MASoft: sure, but which package do I need to reconfigure? |
| 23:59.02 | dondelelcaro | ShadowPhoenix: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config; |
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| 23:59.12 | dondelelcaro | s/ShadowPhoeniz/Strogg/ |
| 23:59.17 | Strogg | hrmm I'm sure I tried that. lemme try again |
| 23:59.20 | dondelelcaro | ShadowPhoenix: netstat -plunt |
| 23:59.30 | Tsarin | The system is going down for reboot NOW!rg (pts/0) (Mon Oct 22 16:59:19 2007) |
| 23:59.37 | Strogg | bloody hell. |
| 23:59.37 | ShadowPhoenix | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 23:59.53 | MASoft | Strogg: :) |
| 23:59.53 | Strogg | dondelelcaro: thanks. Sorry for the retarded question. I could have sworn I tried that. |
| 23:59.53 | Tsarin | hope it comes back |
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