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| 00:00.38 | wols | xota: yiz cab diwbkiad the firmware manually |
| 00:00.51 | wols | *you can download |
| 00:01.08 | wols | xota: in fact you already have the file(s) for it in your current windows drivers |
| 00:01.13 | wols | !bcm43xx |
| 00:01.13 | dpkg | i guess bcm43xx is the broadcom 43xx series driver; originally available as a patch at http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/, it has been included in all kernels after 2.6.17-rc2. http://wiki.debian.org/BCM43xx, or <bcm43xx-fwcutter>, or #bcm-users @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 00:04.52 | simonrvn | wols: hehe funniest typos there :) |
| 00:06.50 | simonrvn | wols: touch typist? |
| 00:07.26 | streuner | Let wols alone, he isnt who speak much... |
| 00:07.36 | Bambi_BOFH | lol |
| 00:07.51 | xota | ok wols, lot of thanks |
| 00:07.52 | streuner | only in #debian ;-) |
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| 00:10.05 | bobesponja | hi |
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| 00:11.17 | belt | hey guys can this be done Upload mp3s to debian server / run shoutcast ot icecast / then stream the mps to that server localy |
| 00:11.29 | belt | ie playlist or somthing ? |
| 00:11.36 | belt | ot = or |
| 00:11.49 | streuner | thats OT |
| 00:11.59 | streuner | shoutcast isnt free |
| 00:12.11 | streuner | respect that we support free/open source |
| 00:12.17 | belt | icecast is :) |
| 00:12.22 | belt | just an example |
| 00:12.32 | belt | anythong open source is fine |
| 00:12.40 | belt | anything |
| 00:12.40 | streuner | hm |
| 00:13.10 | dutchfish | dark-icefull non-free? |
| 00:13.10 | streuner | only a special (old) version of icecast supports mp3s anyway... |
| 00:13.27 | belt | oh |
| 00:13.32 | belt | i didnt know that |
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| 00:14.29 | belt | i have some music my friends wrote and they wanted an shotcast / icecast / podcast anything server so it is accessable to the internet via real player media player / |
| 00:14.50 | Bambi_BOFH | ounds more evil all the time :| |
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| 00:15.46 | belt | its all good |
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| 00:16.27 | JohnFlux | Hey all |
| 00:16.47 | JohnFlux | How do I 'unzip' a deb file please? |
| 00:16.52 | JohnFlux | I want to just get at the files |
| 00:17.00 | streuner | dpkg -x, ar x |
| 00:17.05 | JohnFlux | thanks! |
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| 00:18.19 | DustyBin | "Debian is easy to keep up to date. Thats because they don't update it." <-- o_0 |
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| 00:19.03 | Bambi_BOFH | DustyBin: lol |
| 00:19.08 | Bambi_BOFH | thats classic |
| 00:19.09 | beered | 188Kb/s == 1.4Mb/s right? |
| 00:19.22 | Bambi_BOFH | roughly yeah |
| 00:19.24 | xand | no |
| 00:19.28 | beered | huh? |
| 00:19.29 | Bambi_BOFH | hm? |
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| 00:19.48 | xand | capitalisation of b is the same there, so they must both be bits... |
| 00:19.58 | xand | c.c |
| 00:20.02 | dutchfish | b = bit |
| 00:20.06 | Bambi_BOFH | well spotted. :| |
| 00:20.11 | beered | ah |
| 00:20.17 | beered | I meant kB/s. |
| 00:20.22 | beered | :) |
| 00:21.04 | dutchfish | and we are not human calculators ;) |
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| 00:22.01 | Bambi_BOFH | dutchfish: hes just gettinga second opinion :) |
| 00:22.16 | JohnFlux | How do I see what libraries a program is using? |
| 00:22.21 | JohnFlux | ld or something? |
| 00:22.33 | Bambi_BOFH | yeah. |
| 00:22.46 | dutchfish | Bambi_BOFH, oh sorry, i batteries just ran dry ;) getting a new pack hold on ;) |
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| 00:23.02 | JohnFlux | oh ldd |
| 00:23.28 | Bambi_BOFH | dutchfish: lol. |
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| 00:24.07 | mopet | hola |
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| 00:24.44 | rhs | anyone uses windomaker here ? when I watch a youtube video and switch workspace the video diseappears |
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| 00:25.07 | Bambi_BOFH | rhs: its under the mat |
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| 00:25.52 | rhs | Bambi_BOFH: thanks a lot! that's good help, you deserver your nickname |
| 00:27.15 | rhs | i don't feel like hating anyone tonight |
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| 00:27.19 | Bambi_BOFH | *giggle* sorry, i had to. |
| 00:27.22 | soroushh | is there a tutorial for setting up SSH on debian and configuring? i tried google but no luck :S |
| 00:27.34 | Bambi_BOFH | soroushh: what is there to setup? :| |
| 00:27.42 | Cripps | I'm running debian Lenny with kernel 2.6.21-2-686 ... I also have a sony ericsson W200a cell phone. When I attach the phone to my computer I usually get a prompt from KDE asking me what I want to do. I'm not getting that prompt right now, and the phone shows up on lsusb. I should be able to mount the phone as a mass storage device, but I don't know what its device letter/number is. How would I find this out? |
| 00:27.49 | abrotman | soroushh: aptitude install openssh-server |
| 00:28.00 | JohnFlux | how do I change where to look for libraries ? |
| 00:28.04 | soroushh | i have already done |
| 00:28.07 | abrotman | Cripps: dmesg |
| 00:28.09 | soroushh | apt-get install ssh |
| 00:28.10 | abrotman | soroushh: man sshd_config |
| 00:28.11 | JohnFlux | LDPATH or something? |
| 00:28.18 | abrotman | JohnFlux: /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 00:28.18 | JohnFlux | LDCONFIG? I remember it being something like that |
| 00:28.24 | JohnFlux | abrotman just temporarily |
| 00:28.25 | karmatronic | JohnFlux: /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 00:28.37 | abrotman | JohnFlux: LD_CONFIG .. i think |
| 00:28.43 | JohnFlux | ah thanks |
| 00:28.55 | rhs | soroushh: setting a ssh server, no good if you're paranoid and have a fixed IP |
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| 00:29.11 | karmatronic | LDPATH=your_lib your_command |
| 00:29.35 | JohnFlux | karmatronic your_lib can be a path with libs in ? |
| 00:29.54 | karmatronic | JohnFlux: yes |
| 00:30.57 | rhs | soroushh: have you tried google: SSH HOWTO |
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| 00:33.06 | rhs | any girl here ? |
| 00:33.09 | soroushh | there was a guide on debian.org about how to configure ssh |
| 00:33.12 | soroushh | cant seem to find it |
| 00:33.14 | soroushh | anyone know it? |
| 00:33.21 | streuner | rhs: we support Debian ;-) |
| 00:33.35 | runa | hi i have this modem:Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM how can i make it work |
| 00:34.11 | streuner | sounds like a winmodem |
| 00:34.12 | rhs | thought i could find a geek girlfriend here |
| 00:34.23 | streuner | o_O |
| 00:34.28 | Cripps | abrotman, here is the relevant output from dmesg http://www.pastebin.ca/764199 . I tried mounting using sd[b,c][0-3]{1} to no avail. If that's not it, can you help me figure out the right device? |
| 00:34.29 | runa | yes i think it is a win modem |
| 00:34.37 | streuner | !winmodem |
| 00:34.37 | dpkg | GPL driver and info can be found in http://www-124.ibm.com/acpmodem/ http://www.linmodems.org or http://linux.nf/lesbell.htm or here is a black list of known to be winmodems: http://start.at/modem/ and http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html See also: winmodem-trick, or a 3Com/USRobotics trademark, or see <slmodem> |
| 00:34.38 | runa | what should i do? |
| 00:34.42 | karmatronic | soroushh: you dont need a guide, sshd_config file is quite clear ! |
| 00:34.50 | thedonvaughn | rhs: yes i'm a girl. wanna send me money? |
| 00:35.12 | rhs | thedonvaughn: I just want a cuddle |
| 00:35.14 | streuner | !hakasmite thedonvaughn |
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| 00:35.29 | thedonvaughn | heh |
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| 00:35.39 | setuid | I'm reading up on how to get Xen working with Debian, using a howto on howtoforge, and it seems to be completely incorrect |
| 00:35.41 | setuid | http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_xen3_debian_p4 |
| 00:35.46 | Cripps | heh ... Emacs is a great OS ... too bad it doesn't have a decent text editor ;) |
| 00:35.54 | streuner | thedonvaughn: dont make such stupid statements |
| 00:35.56 | setuid | Says to install 'localeconf' (no such binary or package in 3 Debian versions) |
| 00:36.00 | grilled-cheese | ;p |
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| 00:36.07 | setuid | Says to run 'base-config', no such package or binary in any Debian version |
| 00:36.20 | setuid | Is there a Debian Stable analogue for 'base-config'? |
| 00:36.41 | streuner | !listvals base-config |
| 00:36.43 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'base-config' by value (3): apt-setup ;; sources.lst ;; woody debconf. |
| 00:37.14 | Cripps | woody debconf?! wow ... that must be an old factoid .... |
| 00:37.16 | setuid | See? Doesn't exist. I even checked my Ubuntu boxes... not there either, in any package upstream or installed. |
| 00:37.25 | dutchfish | setuid, dpkg -l | grep locales |
| 00:37.39 | streuner | Cripps: lot of factoids are old, someone should remove them |
| 00:37.39 | thedonvaughn | streuner: ^^ please read the comments fully before responding. other wise the word 'stupid' could be redirected toward the accuser |
| 00:37.41 | setuid | dutchfish, Right, it doesn't exist. apt-file search localeconf or the first one |
| 00:37.50 | Cripps | streuner, agreed. |
| 00:37.56 | dutchfish | !locales |
| 00:37.56 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment (in Sarge) which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
| 00:38.06 | dondelelcaro | thedonvaughn, streuner: could you both stop, please? Restrain yourself to things on topic for #debian. |
| 00:38.10 | setuid | Right, I fixed that by just installing locales |
| 00:38.20 | setuid | But I can't configure the base system, without base-config, it seems |
| 00:38.24 | setuid | adding users, installing packages, etc. |
| 00:38.42 | dondelelcaro | setuid: you can, actually. All of that is just done by setting /etc/apt/sources.list, possibly /etc/hostname, and /etc/network/interfaces. |
| 00:38.57 | setuid | dondelelcaro, I've done all of that... |
| 00:38.58 | dondelelcaro | setuid: then aptitude (or apt-get) update; aptitude install blah; |
| 00:39.02 | dondelelcaro | setuid: that's all you need to do |
| 00:39.14 | setuid | dondelelcaro, Which package is the ncurses wizard to set up user? |
| 00:39.15 | setuid | er, users |
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| 00:39.20 | troubled | dondelelcaro: CVE-2007-5116 is real? |
| 00:39.26 | dondelelcaro | setuid: adduser et al? |
| 00:39.30 | troubled | re perl utf8 |
| 00:39.36 | Cripps | so, given my relevant dmesg output (http://www.pastebin.ca/764199) could anyone help me find out the device letter/number of my mass storage device? |
| 00:39.39 | setuid | adduser... yuck |
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| 00:39.51 | setuid | Are we back in 1987 again on AIX? :) |
| 00:39.54 | Cripps | :o |
| 00:40.06 | Cripps | adduser is nice. Simple ... fast. |
| 00:40.09 | dondelelcaro | setuid: uh... adduser is pretty simple and easy to use |
| 00:40.23 | dutchfish | Cripps, dmidecode? |
| 00:40.26 | dondelelcaro | (and all the ncurses thingie does is run adduser anyway) |
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| 00:40.53 | runa | the faq on modem does not work |
| 00:41.10 | xota | on debian testing, the ext3 partition or resiersfs isn't supported? need to install on xfs? |
| 00:41.12 | setuid | ah, I was thinking of useradd... the one that required 14 separate arguments in the right order to add a user |
| 00:41.21 | runa | i mean some of the howto pages does not exist |
| 00:41.26 | lavamind | hello, is there a command on Debian that I can use to output a list of builtin modules for the current linux kernel ? |
| 00:41.37 | Bambi_BOFH | setuid: lol. useradd is nasty |
| 00:41.47 | lavamind | such as lsmod for loaded modules |
| 00:41.49 | streuner | dondelelcaro: its always funny *How* you say please and mean "Warning" :-) |
| 00:42.04 | setuid | lavamind, If they're built-in, they're not modules |
| 00:42.06 | setuid | they're monolithic |
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| 00:42.28 | troubled | streuner: hey |
| 00:42.36 | setuid | And there's no need to run monolithic kernels unless you're on an embedded target (and monolithic kernels make debugging much harder, fatter kernels, etc.) |
| 00:42.44 | streuner | troubled: hi |
| 00:42.47 | troubled | streuner: can you confirm a perl update about a utf8 bug in CVE-2007-5116? |
| 00:42.51 | Cripps | dutchfish, dmidecode is a nice utility, I'd never heard of it before now ... unfortunately dmidecode doesn't show my usb devices. |
| 00:43.02 | streuner | troubled: heh? |
| 00:43.05 | dondelelcaro | troubled: that CVE is really, really short on information about the vulnerability |
| 00:43.24 | lavamind | ok, but for example if i select "sd" to be builtin (=Y), how could I check if this driver was builtin at compile ? |
| 00:43.43 | troubled | dondelelcaro: but it is authentic? |
| 00:44.06 | dondelelcaro | troubled: it is a real CVE |
| 00:44.17 | pppoe_dude | anyone know if evolution 2.12 is backwards compatible with evolution 2.6 if i want to import/export settings/mail/calendar/etc? |
| 00:44.18 | troubled | i wonder how long the bots have been suceptable to that :/ |
| 00:44.28 | xota | all my partitions on the install are founded as SCIS(0,0,0). I see it when try to format |
| 00:44.42 | setuid | pppoe_dude, How can 2.12 be backwards compatible with 2.6? |
| 00:44.47 | setuid | 2.12 is older |
| 00:44.51 | lavamind | in my case i need to include a small subset of drivers in order to boot properly into an encrypted root using loop-aes |
| 00:45.05 | pppoe_dude | setuid, how is it older?? |
| 00:45.07 | lavamind | such as sd, ata_piix, etc |
| 00:45.09 | pppoe_dude | 12>6 |
| 00:45.40 | dondelelcaro | troubled: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=644786 this looks like the actual problem |
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| 00:46.06 | Cripps | lavamind, I have a friend who does that ... he uses busybox for the "inital boot environment" and enters his key, then his root gets booted up. |
| 00:46.22 | soroush | portforwarding for SSH |
| 00:46.23 | soroush | its TCP right? |
| 00:46.37 | Cripps | ... quite nifty if you ask me ... I'd like to do that to my home directory (which has its own partition), but I don't have the time to figure it out yet. |
| 00:46.38 | soroush | also does SSH use outbound or inbound connections or both? |
| 00:47.07 | lavamind | Cripps, check out the loop-aes readme |
| 00:47.11 | rhs | Cripps: unplug your device replug it and show the difference between dmesg before and after |
| 00:47.16 | Bambi_BOFH | soroush: tcp yes |
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| 00:47.30 | Cripps | rhs, okay. Give me a moment. |
| 00:47.39 | karmatronic | soroush: yes it s tcp |
| 00:47.42 | troubled | dondelelcaro: gah, that upgrade failed :( |
| 00:47.53 | karmatronic | soroush: ssh uses inbound connections... |
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| 00:48.00 | soroush | not outbound? |
| 00:48.05 | lavamind | Cripps : http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/loop-AES.README |
| 00:48.17 | troubled | dondelelcaro: something about not match executabl architecture for a 2.6.22-3-amd64 kernel for Errno.pm |
| 00:48.22 | karmatronic | like ftp you mean? no |
| 00:48.23 | lavamind | extremely well written readme |
| 00:48.38 | peterS | soroush: openssh-client uses outbound TCP, openssh-server uses inbound TCP. depends on what functionality you actually need. it's like any client/server pair. |
| 00:48.45 | abrotman | setuid: that's a question i'd ask the evolution developers |
| 00:48.54 | soroush | how can i find my IP on debian? |
| 00:49.01 | streuner | ifconfig |
| 00:49.06 | abrotman | ifconfig -a |
| 00:49.06 | Cripps | lavamind, thanks, I'll take a look at that |
| 00:49.06 | karmatronic | soroush: ifconfig |
| 00:49.20 | peterS | soroush: the easiest way is /sbin/ifconfig but you do have to wade through a lot of output |
| 00:49.23 | soroush | ifconfig in terminal does not work |
| 00:49.30 | peterS | it most certainly does |
| 00:49.43 | peterS | you have to specify /sbin/ifconfig with a full path because /sbin isn't in the default user path, though |
| 00:49.45 | setuid | abrotman, Not my question |
| 00:49.48 | rhs | you have to be root |
| 00:49.49 | soroush | ahh ok |
| 00:49.58 | setuid | abrotman, But they're using standards there, so ical/vcard/etc. is going to continue to work |
| 00:49.59 | abrotman | setuid: doh ... spank me later |
| 00:50.07 | abrotman | pppoe_dude: i'd ask the evolution developers |
| 00:50.09 | setuid | It would be a pretty big mistake to make that break |
| 00:50.12 | peterS | this is something the 'iproute' maintainers fixed, they put the 'ip' binary in /bin rather than /sbin, so you can type 'ip a' if you have that package installed |
| 00:50.22 | abrotman | setuid: the local mail stores though ? |
| 00:50.26 | setuid | Because company -> company users who use Evolution, would be in a mess if it required versions to be in lockstep |
| 00:50.45 | setuid | The db format is the same, the schemas are the same, if the schema requires a change, it'll upgrade it |
| 00:51.49 | pppoe_dude | setuid, but evolution 2.12 exports everything, including account settings |
| 00:51.57 | pppoe_dude | all into one file.. |
| 00:52.04 | setuid | dondelelcaro, Looks like I have to go through and manually create fstab, hosts, hostname, network/interfaces, etc. because there is no automated way to set up Debian like this |
| 00:52.13 | soroush | is there anyother way apart from ifconfig? |
| 00:52.19 | setuid | pppoe_dude, irc.gimp.org -> #evolution |
| 00:52.19 | abrotman | soroush: ip |
| 00:52.20 | Cripps | rhs: this is the output from two disconnects and then reconnects: http://www.pastebin.ca/764215 |
| 00:52.36 | Cripps | ... the only difference seems to be the address number. |
| 00:52.37 | soroush | abrotman ip? |
| 00:53.14 | rhs | Cripps: it seems there's two disks on your device |
| 00:53.28 | rhs | Cripps: have you try to mount /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc |
| 00:53.41 | Cripps | rhs, yeah, there's the phone's internal memory, and then the memorystick |
| 00:53.41 | abrotman | soroush: man ip ? |
| 00:54.00 | rhs | Cripps: then mount them: put a line in your fstab |
| 00:54.22 | runa | can sb help me making a winmodem work. it is a Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM |
| 00:54.32 | peterS | soroush: I told you about iproute, apparently you did not pay attention. I don't know why I bother to type these answers |
| 00:54.39 | Cripps | rhs, I've tried "mount -t vfat /dev/sdb[0,1,2] <directory>" same with sdc ... no luck on all counts. |
| 00:55.03 | rhs | Cripps: and without the numbers 0,1,2 ? |
| 00:55.08 | Cripps | rhs, using just "sdb I get the "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb, ..." error. |
| 00:55.17 | Cripps | same with sdc |
| 00:55.22 | rhs | Cripps: ok can't help you |
| 00:55.30 | Cripps | rhs, thanks for trying :) |
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| 00:55.54 | Cripps | I'm going to see if a restart will help ... maybe it just went past the usable addresses *shrugs* |
| 00:56.10 | karmatronic | Cripps: you re connecting it to a usb hub ? |
| 00:56.22 | Cripps | karmatronic, nope ... directly into my compy |
| 00:56.42 | karmatronic | Cripps: tried to disconnect and reconnect and check dmesg ? |
| 00:56.53 | Cripps | karmatronic, up the wazoo :/ |
| 00:57.21 | Cripps | brb |
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| 00:58.23 | soroush | how do i open ifconfig |
| 00:58.26 | soroush | im in terminal |
| 00:58.29 | soroush | on /sbin |
| 00:58.35 | setuid | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 00:58.50 | soroush | got it thanks |
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| 01:04.43 | soroush | when i type /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 01:04.48 | soroush | i get permission denied |
| 01:04.52 | soroush | although im in root |
| 01:04.53 | soroush | :S |
| 01:05.07 | rhs | chmod it |
| 01:05.08 | abrotman | you edit it .. not run it |
| 01:05.18 | soroush | whats the edit cmd? |
| 01:05.19 | abrotman | rhs: FUCK NO |
| 01:05.28 | stew | soroush: editor |
| 01:05.29 | soroush | lol chmod it :P |
| 01:05.31 | abrotman | soroush: use an editor you like |
| 01:05.37 | soroush | i dont know any :S |
| 01:05.40 | soroush | nedit? |
| 01:05.42 | soroush | i think might be one |
| 01:06.00 | soroush | so i do |
| 01:06.03 | soroush | nedit sshd_config |
| 01:06.06 | soroush | ? |
| 01:06.59 | rhs | or "gedit sshd_config" or "kwrite sshd_config" |
| 01:07.01 | karmatronic | soroush: for instance |
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| 01:07.24 | soroush | thanks! |
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| 01:08.36 | lavamind | using make-kpkg, how can I instruct make to run multiple jobs ? |
| 01:08.49 | lavamind | for regular make I just use make -j3 |
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| 01:09.16 | abrotman | lavamind: man kernel-pkg.conf |
| 01:09.33 | abrotman | lavamind: look for CONCURRENCY_LEVEL |
| 01:09.47 | lavamind | ok thanks |
| 01:10.02 | soroush | can you SSH to: 80.177.173.188 |
| 01:10.04 | soroush | anyone? |
| 01:10.22 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:10.23 | Cripps | rhs, dutchfish, abrotman : after I did a restart my phone would be recognized, and KDE would send up the menu asking me what I want to do. Here's the dmesg from before, and after, the restart/device connection. |
| 01:10.34 | Cripps | think that might be a bug? |
| 01:10.35 | soroush | can you paste what you see? please abrotman |
| 01:10.41 | Cripps | er ... url: http://www.pastebin.ca/764229 |
| 01:10.50 | soroush | abrotman so its working? |
| 01:10.56 | abrotman | soroush: i didn't actually try to login .. i just got the ssh banner |
| 01:11.09 | soroush | oh i see |
| 01:11.15 | soroush | i have to test it with internal IP right? |
| 01:11.16 | lavamind | abrotman, are there any downsides to setting CONCURRENCY_LEVELS > 1 ? |
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| 01:11.34 | abrotman | lavamind: system responsiveness |
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| 01:11.54 | soroush | Thanks everyone for your help! |
| 01:12.55 | rhs | Cripps: let KDE mount it ? |
| 01:12.55 | dutchfish | Cripps, sorry i dont know anything about kde |
| 01:12.55 | lavamind | abrotman, alright |
| 01:13.00 | soroush | Thanks everyone for your help! |
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| 01:14.15 | Cripps | rhs, yeah, I let kde take care of mounting it. |
| 01:14.44 | rhs | Cripps: and, does it work ? |
| 01:16.16 | Cripps | rhs, yeah, it does ... and dmesg showed that the card's device was sdc1 and the phone's was sdb1 ... oddly enough, that's what the device names/numbers are. |
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| 01:20.15 | Ballsius | how do I update a single package? |
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| 01:20.26 | streuner | Ballsius: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 01:20.51 | rhs | Ballsius: search "apt pinning" on google |
| 01:21.24 | streuner | dont use pinning or you get "bobbitt" ;-) |
| 01:21.32 | Ballsius | ii libc6 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
| 01:22.11 | streuner | !ubuntu |
| 01:22.11 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 01:23.37 | Ballsius | is it possible to just update, in this case clamav- without updating the entire list of packages |
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| 01:24.37 | nicio | what distro is this? |
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| 01:25.08 | rhs | ah ah un français |
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| 01:25.22 | LoWang77 | sup peopel |
| 01:25.33 | Ballsius | chinaman! |
| 01:26.06 | Dewi | Ballsius: 'aptitude install clamav' |
| 01:26.09 | LoWang77 | I am trying to get phpbb working, I got php, apache2, and mysql working, I did apt-get install phpbb now what |
| 01:26.21 | Dewi | Ballsius: if it's already installed and an upgrade is available it will upgrade |
| 01:26.23 | abrotman | did you get libapache2-mod-php5 ? |
| 01:26.23 | streuner | Ballsius: please ask in #ubuntu, you'll get much more help about ubuntu there |
| 01:26.49 | nicio | rhs: ??? |
| 01:26.56 | nicio | t con |
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| 01:27.25 | triplc | hi all |
| 01:27.29 | Ballsius | oh cool i didnt know about aptitude |
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| 01:28.03 | Dewi | Ballsius: presumably the same command works with apt-get |
| 01:28.05 | streuner | hm, clamav updates its db usually daily |
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| 01:28.36 | streuner | #clamav 44 Stable ver. 0.91.2 | 0.92-RC2 is out!!! | Read the FAQ before posting: http://www.clamav.org/support/faq/ | use the pastebot when |
| 01:28.52 | Insolit | hi do you guys know if i can use my private key generated using gnupg for ssh authentication? |
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| 01:29.29 | setuid | dondelelcaro, Still about? |
| 01:29.43 | setuid | dondelelcaro, Should my debootstrap image have a kernel inside it? |
| 01:29.59 | predder | where's a good place for me to look up pam module options, the one i'm looking for does not seem to have a man page |
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| 01:31.06 | LoWang77 | yes on the libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 01:31.54 | LoWang77 | I am looking at the apache.conf in the /etc/phpbb2 dir, do I copy that somewhere? |
| 01:31.57 | LoWang77 | link it? |
| 01:32.03 | karsten | predder: Unfortunately, that's a good question. Probably in the development docs of tools using that particular pam module. |
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| 01:32.28 | karsten | LoWang77: You probably want to include it by reference, or symlink it under your primary apache directory. |
| 01:32.47 | triplc | (newbie need advice) what program i can use as translation tools? i need to translate books from Chinese to my languages (Vietnamese) and i think using normal editors (like open office, etc...) is quite primitive and lack of tracking, coorperation (between different translators)... so i search to see if there is a good tools. A search in synaptics -> gtranslator... but i do not know whethere it is the right tool. Actually, after starting Gtranslator, i see tha |
| 01:32.52 | dondelelcaro | setuid: no |
| 01:33.00 | karsten | LoWang77: /etc/apache2/conf.d/ for example. |
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| 01:33.35 | karsten | setuid: You won't have a kernel unless you've installed it. |
| 01:33.37 | predder | Insolit, man SSH and check out the Authentication section. There's a description and instructions in there |
| 01:33.41 | dondelelcaro | setuid: since you're dealing with xen, there's no reason for it to, either. You can just install the linux-modules-blahblah-xen for the xen kernel that you're using |
| 01:33.56 | karsten | triplc: Might check with, say, TLDP or the Debian docs folks as to how they manage translations. |
| 01:34.20 | predder | Insolit, I think your gpg is going to be an RSA pair which *should* be supported |
| 01:34.29 | setuid | dondelelcaro, if I have a debootstrap chroot environment for i386, and it has _nothing_ in /boot/, and I point Xen to the host's xen kernel (amd64), I get a weird error from the .sxp file |
| 01:34.45 | setuid | This howto is a trainrwreck, why do people keep these things up here, when its clearly just flat-out wrong |
| 01:34.53 | Insolit | predder: it seems it's not supported by putty :( |
| 01:35.01 | triplc | karsten, good advice... do you know the IRC of debian or TLDP team? |
| 01:35.18 | triplc | (debian team is here, i think) |
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| 01:35.56 | karsten | triplc: The official Debian IRC channels are on irc.oftc.net. Try #debian or #debian-devel there. |
| 01:35.59 | predder | karsten, thanks |
| 01:36.07 | karsten | triplc: http://www.tldp.org/ has a contacts list. |
| 01:36.20 | triplc | karsten, thanks |
| 01:36.26 | karsten | predder: NP |
| 01:37.38 | karsten | triplc: Most of the TLDP and Debian docs are written with the DocBook DTD, probably using Emacs. |
| 01:37.46 | dondelelcaro | setuid: that howto is really old |
| 01:37.51 | karsten | triplc: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apes01.html.en |
| 01:37.52 | setuid | Apparently |
| 01:38.17 | dondelelcaro | setuid: nothing should be in /boot either, because a xen guest doesn't have a bootloader; that's all done in xen. |
| 01:38.32 | triplc | karsten, thanks |
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| 01:38.46 | setuid | Ok |
| 01:38.49 | setuid | I should fix/write my own version of this HOWTO |
| 01:38.52 | dondelelcaro | setuid: if you're using a 32 bit env, then you should be pointing xen at the 32 bit kernel (presumably) |
| 01:38.59 | setuid | I'm doing an Etch -> Xen -> Untangle build |
| 01:39.21 | dondelelcaro | (but mixing and matching amd64 and i386 on xen has caused problems often) |
| 01:40.27 | setuid | dondelelcaro, I have to use schroot into an i386 image on AMD64, because some critical tools I require for hourly code snapshots aren't ported over (and won't be) |
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| 01:40.32 | setuid | prc-tools being one of them |
| 01:40.50 | dondelelcaro | setuid: you can just use a 32 bit chroot, you know. |
| 01:40.54 | setuid | dondelelcaro, I blogged about the details on how to set that up here: http://blog.gnu-designs.com/solution-to-prc-tools-on-amd64-and-other-64-bit-machines |
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| 01:41.11 | setuid | dondelelcaro, I can use a 32-bit chroot, but it has to be a 32-bit i386 chroot |
| 01:41.21 | dondelelcaro | setuid: yes... |
| 01:41.23 | setuid | And I use schroot into that chroot, to set up the hourly cron job, unattended |
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| 01:43.11 | venger | i want to be able to scroll back in man, man man tells me "By default, man uses pager -s", what is -s if not a switch? |
| 01:44.08 | rhs | venger: scroll back? use arrows or pageup pagedown |
| 01:44.24 | karsten | venger: export PAGER=less; export MANPAGER=less |
| 01:44.39 | karsten | venger: For more goodness: update-alternatives --config pager |
| 01:45.00 | karsten | venger: ... and export LESS=-X |
| 01:45.37 | karsten | venger: 'pager' generally points to /etc/alternatives/pager which points to 'more' by default. Remember, less is more. More doesn't scroll back, because that's not more, it's less. |
| 01:45.45 | karsten | venger: ... and if you want everything, use most. |
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| 01:46.45 | schmick | another noob question... How can I get my laptop to bypass login? I'm running xfce on debian. I want to turn it on, walk away and it's up and running... no concern for security :-) |
| 01:46.49 | karsten | venger: 'less -s' squeezes multiple blank lines into a single blank line. Some poorly-crafted manpages have too much verticle whitespace. |
| 01:46.58 | karsten | schmick: Don't do that. |
| 01:47.02 | venger | less is good, i'll go with less, thanks karsten |
| 01:47.08 | schmick | but I like it like that |
| 01:47.14 | karsten | schmick: However, you can configure gdm and kdm for passwordless startup. |
| 01:47.25 | schmick | i have gdm |
| 01:47.26 | karsten | schmick: I would very strongly suggest you don't do that. |
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| 01:47.49 | DeFirence | !seen dawnlight |
| 01:47.50 | dpkg | dawnlight <n=DawnLigh@89.1.227.155.dynamic.barak-online.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 6h 48m 22s ago, saying: 'are there instructions somewhere on how to build the bsd kernel?\'. |
| 01:47.56 | karsten | schmick: More to the point, I don't know _how_ they configure that behavior, so you're on your own for it. |
| 01:48.04 | DeFirence | lol |
| 01:48.08 | schmick | :-) |
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| 01:49.09 | DeFirence | woah |
| 01:49.19 | DeFirence | its later then i thought... just saw the time |
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| 01:49.20 | DeFirence | :o |
| 01:50.01 | venger | karsten, update-alternatives --config pager gives option for pg and thats it, why wouldn't less be in this list? |
| 01:50.20 | karsten | venger: Install (an)other pager(s) |
| 01:50.28 | karsten | venger: more less most, etc. |
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| 01:51.06 | karsten | venger: You can only configure alternatives for presently-installed packages. I get: more less w3m pg |
| 01:51.07 | venger | my bad i assumed less would already be there but this is a debbootstrap box |
| 01:51.12 | karsten | venger: pg is apparently the default. |
| 01:51.36 | karsten | venger: Save yourself the pain: aptitude install less vim w3m ssh mc lftp irssi screen |
| 01:51.51 | karsten | venger: That's usually my first post-install command on a fresh debootstrap. |
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| 01:52.15 | karsten | venger: You may want to purge yourself of the evil that is nvi as well. |
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| 01:53.19 | venger | i actually use vi daily lol |
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| 02:15.03 | Insolit | predder: i have set up things properly (i think) but still the server asks me for a password :S |
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| 02:21.19 | kill-9 | hey can someone give me a link on how to compile a kernel? |
| 02:21.20 | kill-9 | please |
| 02:21.36 | dondelelcaro | kill-9: any particular reason why you're compiling the kernel? |
| 02:21.51 | kill-9 | dondelelcaro, because i want to put my own name and for some reason. |
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| 02:23.02 | dondelelcaro | kill-9: there are various howtos on it then, but /msg dpkg kp; /msg dpkg kp mantra; to get started. |
| 02:23.11 | dondelelcaro | (but you really are better off just using the Debian kernels) |
| 02:23.38 | kill-9 | right, |
| 02:23.43 | kill-9 | but i cannot see the tt1 |
| 02:23.48 | kill-9 | it doesn't allow me |
| 02:23.56 | dondelelcaro | the tt1? |
| 02:24.11 | kill-9 | yeah the terminals on ctrl alt f1 |
| 02:24.13 | baggend | Can anyone point me towards some information on how to cross compile packages for a particular architecture. I don't mean to build an i386 package on amd64, but to build an i386 library package for installation on an amd64 system, for example. |
| 02:24.14 | kill-9 | i do not know why |
| 02:24.20 | dondelelcaro | kill-9: that's got nothing to do with the kernel |
| 02:24.42 | dondelelcaro | kill-9: do you actually have a getty running on tty1? |
| 02:24.57 | kill-9 | dondelelcaro, not sure |
| 02:24.59 | kill-9 | how can i check? |
| 02:25.03 | dondelelcaro | kill-9: ps axfu |
| 02:25.20 | kill-9 | nope |
| 02:25.45 | dondelelcaro | if you don't have one, then fix your inittab so that one is started (or switch to a runlevel where they're started) |
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| 02:26.13 | kill-9 | how though dondelelcaro |
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| 02:43.33 | ujy99 | hello everyone. my mobo crapped out on me & ordered an upgrade. should i do hardware (intel) or software (mdam) RAID? |
| 02:43.57 | abrotman | is it a real raid controller ? |
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| 02:44.41 | ujy99 | abrotman: BIOS |
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| 02:45.30 | ujy99 | RAID 1 btw |
| 02:45.33 | abrotman | ujy99: that's nice .. is it real raid ? |
| 02:46.03 | ujy99 | to be honest... no idea |
| 02:46.16 | ujy99 | i can provide the url |
| 02:46.17 | abrotman | !sata faq |
| 02:46.17 | dpkg | http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html or http://linux-ata.org/ |
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| 02:47.35 | Guerin | if you don't know, it's fake |
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| 02:48.52 | abrotman | ujy99: if it's a normal mobo .. it's likely fakeraid .. which means you get swraid anyways |
| 02:49.05 | abrotman | or dmraid |
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| 02:51.11 | xerophyte | i am looking for monitoring and CMDB solution for our company.. does anybody know any good solution like Zenoss ? (we are still searching if there is another solution which is better than zenoss |
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| 02:52.42 | setuid | xerophyte, untangle.com |
| 02:52.50 | dondelelcaro | xerophyte: I don't know if it's better, but I'm a big fan of munin |
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| 02:53.31 | dondelelcaro | (munin doesn't have all the other bells and whistles, but I'm not entirely sure that they're necessary0 |
| 02:53.54 | ujy99 | abrotman: thx |
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| 03:00.28 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:00.28 | dpkg | <pder> will debian run on a computer system? |
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| 03:03.07 | dn4 | ctorrent just said Error while checking piece 2004 of 2216 |
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| 03:03.22 | dn4 | Is there a way to fix this error? |
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| 03:08.24 | gonzaloaf | hi, is still the debian stock kernel compiled without support for ntfs-3g driver? |
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| 03:10.01 | abrotman | gonzaloaf: yes |
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| 03:13.36 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, why? |
| 03:13.47 | abrotman | why would it? |
| 03:14.09 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, to avoid using custom kernels? |
| 03:14.21 | Bambi_BOFH | mines stock :) |
| 03:14.27 | abrotman | gonzaloaf: backports.orgt |
| 03:14.29 | abrotman | .org |
| 03:14.36 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, and make debian users a easier life |
| 03:14.50 | abrotman | gonzaloaf: by risking your data stored on ntfs ? |
| 03:14.54 | Bambi_BOFH | gonzaloaf: only the ones who want to corrupt their data |
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| 03:15.10 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, I like to use stock kernels, because things are easier when you have them |
| 03:15.17 | abrotman | okay .. then why are you whining? |
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| 03:15.44 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, so if ntfs-3g would 100% stable they will add it in their kernels? |
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| 03:15.56 | gonzaloaf | would be* |
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| 03:16.06 | abrotman | gonzaloaf: and it were free (i'm not sure if it is or not) |
| 03:16.18 | Nyle | !ping |
| 03:16.19 | dpkg | pong |
| 03:16.27 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/ntfs-3g |
| 03:16.27 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, I understand |
| 03:16.40 | abrotman | gonzaloaf: it's also a FUSE component |
| 03:16.40 | K|NgGh0sT | It seems as in my GRUB corrupted somehow, anyone know an easy way to fix this? can I use a debian install cd? |
| 03:17.03 | gonzaloaf | abrotman, I knoe the pkg is avaiable... I just want it enabled by default in stock kernels? |
| 03:17.29 | abrotman | gonzaloaf: okay |
| 03:17.36 | Nyle | !ping |
| 03:17.36 | dpkg | pong |
| 03:17.43 | abrotman | moron |
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| 03:23.49 | abrotman | !rescie |
| 03:23.51 | abrotman | !rescue |
| 03:23.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, rescue is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ ("Can I use d-i as a rescue system?") See also <rescue mode>. |
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| 03:26.32 | rance | can someone give me a hand with a dpkg command, I need to remove a package but leave the dependencies installed |
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| 03:27.32 | abrotman | rance: dpkg -P <pkg> |
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| 03:29.27 | magichere | freevo config problem .I have config the ~/.freevo/freevo2.conf .and set the player.preferred = mplayer , But It dosen`t work ! the freevo could recognize the mplayer ,and use it to play movies |
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| 03:30.04 | magichere | and if i use mpalyer to play a movie , That`s great work . |
| 03:30.07 | magichere | why ? |
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| 03:33.43 | nn-main | who wants a cool music file? |
| 03:34.05 | abrotman | nn-main: don't do that |
| 03:34.26 | nn-main | lol |
| 03:34.29 | nn-main | kk |
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| 03:50.15 | Aaron_ | can someone help me out with this issue http://pastebin.ca/764370 |
| 03:50.17 | Aaron_ | if is possible |
| 03:51.26 | abrotman | Aaron_: bugs.debian.org/python-central .. usually you wait a few days .. but ftp-master is offline |
| 03:52.11 | Aaron_ | abrotman, how can i fixed this messed though? |
| 03:52.33 | Aaron_ | so i can installed some packages |
| 03:53.07 | Aaron_ | or my system is broken? |
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| 03:53.38 | axscode | anyone tried using DOM = DiskOnModule 64MB to boot it using syslinux? |
| 03:54.02 | abrotman | Aaron_: look in the BTS .. see if there's a fix |
| 03:54.10 | Aaron_ | alright, |
| 03:55.22 | abrotman | nn64: fuck off and die |
| 03:55.31 | abrotman | nn64: do NOT ever do that again |
| 03:55.40 | nn64 | abrotman, lol |
| 03:55.43 | nn64 | kk |
| 03:55.46 | abrotman | nn64: i hope you get klined |
| 03:56.24 | nn64 | abrotman, sory |
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| 03:58.43 | wwasher | hey all |
| 03:59.38 | wwasher | tried installing openmpi bits and the examples that come batched with try to use "mpicc" to compile. i can't find anything with openmpi anywhere |
| 03:59.41 | Internat | stupid question, is there a way to find all files greater then a specific size |
| 04:00.09 | abrotman | Internat: man find |
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| 04:17.12 | silvertip257 | I've been reading up on Debian support for Cisco wireless cards and have seen indications that they work. I'm having trouble with Debian Etch (4.0) and a Cisco Aironet 352 wifi card |
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| 04:51.22 | cico | how to run apt-get in debug mode? Debug::??? |
| 04:52.09 | Aaron_ | anyone here knows of a program to hear radios and watch some tv stations i forgot the program i know it wasn't totem it was something similar to it |
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| 04:53.42 | baggend | Can anyone point me towards some information on how to cross compile packages for a particular architecture. I don't mean to build an i386 package on amd64, but to build an i386 library package for installation on an amd64 system, for example. |
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| 04:54.50 | simonrvn | cico: man apt-get, it mentions that |
| 04:55.03 | sussudio | edgar j hoover was a crosscompiler. |
| 04:55.10 | cico | simonrvn: I can't find the debug option in man page |
| 04:55.28 | simonrvn | wow, it's a sussudio ! hi there :) |
| 04:55.42 | cico | simonrvn: In fact the string "ebug" appears no where in the man page |
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| 04:56.08 | simonrvn | cico: try /ebug less does case sensitive searches |
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| 04:56.16 | simonrvn | i see you did ;). |
| 04:56.34 | simonrvn | weird, try in /usr/share/doc/apt |
| 04:56.36 | baggend | sussudio: Yeah, these 32-bit apps trying to wear clothes made to cover 64-bits... very odd. ;) |
| 04:56.37 | cico | simonrvn: not there |
| 04:56.49 | cico | simonrvn: trying /usr/share/doc/apt |
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| 04:57.25 | EruditeHermit | hi, can anyone help me with gimp, it keeps crashing when I click anywhere in the window. Happens with the versions in sid and lenny |
| 04:58.54 | simonrvn | EruditeHermit: mine's ok, just ran it a few times since the update. maybe clear your cache? |
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| 05:10.38 | slump | vamo acorda kraio ;) |
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| 05:19.47 | s4v | hi :) can someone please help me with this: http://pastebin.com/m65b1717b |
| 05:20.30 | EruditeHermit | simonrvn: I deleted .gimp* and purged reinstalled it |
| 05:20.34 | EruditeHermit | simonrvn: it still crashes |
| 05:20.43 | Bambi_BOFH | s4v: congratulations, youve discovereda bug :P |
| 05:20.49 | slump | s4v: 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 154 not upgraded. |
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| 05:20.56 | slump | what u are running? |
| 05:21.09 | s4v | Bambi_BOFH: bug? o.O |
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| 05:22.01 | s4v | so, how can I fix this bug? |
| 05:22.16 | slump | s4v: upgrade your debian. |
| 05:22.20 | slump | take a look. |
| 05:22.23 | slump | http://dpaste.com/24431/ |
| 05:22.30 | Bambi_BOFH | s4v: slump has a valid point - try bringing your system up to date then isntalling again |
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| 05:23.10 | slump | s4v: apt-get dist-upgrade it |
| 05:23.22 | s4v | thanks |
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| 05:23.35 | CyberMad | i want to create document storage with folder permission.. i did this on microsoft windows 2003 server on my company and i want replace it with Ubuntu, well i want user can access through samba, example: use map network drive and must enter their username & password, if not.. only have access as guest. I want the folder permission is inheritance to its subfolder, but i can set individual permission on its subfolder. How to do that? I want to manage the us |
| 05:23.45 | CyberMad | does OpenLDAP suitable to my need? |
| 05:24.01 | EruditeHermit | simonrvn: I get this error (script-fu:9292): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: gimp_wire_read(): error |
| 05:24.02 | Bambi_BOFH | !ubuntu |
| 05:24.02 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 05:24.27 | Bambi_BOFH | CyberMad: ask #ubuntu-server and or #ubuntu |
| 05:24.38 | slump | CyberMad: samba.org |
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| 05:25.55 | Aaron_ | !beryl |
| 05:25.55 | dpkg | beryl is a compositing window manager for the X Window System. It is a fork of <Compiz>. http://beryl-project.org/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_(window_manager) |
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| 05:27.48 | wwasher | tried installing openmpi bits and the examples that come batched with try to use "mpicc" to compile. i can't find anything with mpicc in any of the packages |
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| 05:28.32 | w0nder | is there something wrong with etch's samba package? |
| 05:28.47 | slump | w0nder: what problem you got? |
| 05:28.56 | w0nder | going to paste 3 lines... |
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| 05:30.51 | w0nder | Could not convert sid S-1-5-21-1540122956-634343686-794563710-10790 to gid |
| 05:30.51 | w0nder | Could not get groups for user 0 |
| 05:31.03 | slump | wtf, it's 03:30 here :/ |
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| 05:31.10 | w0nder | this is in squid's cache.log ... i think it has to do with winbind |
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| 05:31.44 | slump | w0nder: your squid is getting groups/users from an AD or samba? |
| 05:31.53 | w0nder | i just read on a forum about another guy having the same problem and he installed the latest samba... only problem is i just installed from apt like 3 days ago :) |
| 05:32.02 | w0nder | AD .. i think? |
| 05:32.06 | w0nder | it's using ntlm_auth |
| 05:32.08 | slump | so |
| 05:32.27 | w0nder | hrm |
| 05:32.27 | lymeca | Oh snap...am I to understand that DV capture via an IEEE1394 port doesn't work with Debian's 2.6.22 kernel because something called "CONFIG_IEEE1394" has been disabled?!?!? |
| 05:32.31 | slump | you have squid+samba in the same server right? |
| 05:32.37 | w0nder | yeah |
| 05:32.44 | slump | samba is working fine? |
| 05:32.46 | w0nder | i can join the domain |
| 05:32.50 | w0nder | seems to be |
| 05:32.56 | w0nder | i can log in to squid and stuff |
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| 05:33.01 | w0nder | it just can't get what groups i'm in |
| 05:33.14 | slump | ok, this log file is about samba |
| 05:33.22 | slump | you use ldap right. |
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| 05:33.36 | w0nder | not using ldap because i can't do ie passthrough auth |
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| 05:33.40 | slump | some groups appears right and some others don't? |
| 05:33.47 | w0nder | not sure... |
| 05:34.00 | s4v | hey slump, I made dist-upgrade and I'm still getting the same error |
| 05:34.05 | s4v | ;( |
| 05:34.22 | w0nder | the strange thing is i can do a query and check my username against a group |
| 05:34.31 | w0nder | and it will tell me whether or not i'm in it wih ERR or OK |
| 05:34.31 | slump | s4v: what releae are you running? |
| 05:34.47 | s4v | slump: how can I find out? |
| 05:35.03 | slump | w0nder: and this user/group is not located? |
| 05:35.16 | slump | s4v: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 05:35.26 | s4v | slump: 4.0 |
| 05:35.33 | slump | s4v: strange |
| 05:35.38 | s4v | :( |
| 05:36.02 | slump | i`m running on sid and ircd-hydrid installed ok. |
| 05:36.11 | slump | don`t know about etch. |
| 05:36.27 | s4v | slump: I did a (apt-get remove ircd-hybrid && rm -rf /etc/ircd-hybryd) and the error showed up |
| 05:36.34 | slump | but you have rebooted against new userland? |
| 05:37.02 | s4v | that should be related somehow to the problem but I'm not sure how |
| 05:37.21 | bfrog | does debian not have a lame (mp3) package? |
| 05:37.27 | slump | s4v: did you know what version you are running? |
| 05:37.39 | s4v | slump: version of what? |
| 05:38.21 | slump | s4v: what you was running after you did dist-upgrade ? |
| 05:38.31 | slump | you`ve installed 4.0 ? |
| 05:38.46 | s4v | slump: probably. :| I don't know what was last version |
| 05:39.00 | slump | bfrog: here with main non-free contrib doesn't showed something :' |
| 05:39.39 | slump | s4v: hmm.. |
| 05:39.54 | slump | what you have on /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:39.59 | bfrog | I mean there's libmad |
| 05:40.18 | bfrog | but yeah... just seems a little odd |
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| 05:41.01 | slump | bfrog: http://www.debian-unofficial.org/packages.html |
| 05:41.41 | s4v | slump: http://pastebin.ca/764432 |
| 05:41.50 | bfrog | ah, there's all the needed packages to make a box decently useful |
| 05:41.56 | bfrog | illegal... probably |
| 05:42.02 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 05:42.22 | s4v | slump: I can't unpack the package. that's all. it may be corrupted. :| should I try other sources? |
| 05:42.40 | slump | bfrog: lame can encode/decode mp3. it`s not legal ;) |
| 05:43.01 | s4v | slump: can I get the source and compile? |
| 05:43.10 | s4v | via apt-get I mean |
| 05:43.38 | bfrog | at the same time... mp3 is an iso standard... go figure |
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| 05:44.16 | Bambi_BOFH | bfrog: iso is a bit less credable then it should be :( |
| 05:44.25 | cico | I am doing apt-get dist-upgrade to lenny and it wants to remove this:- dbus-1-utils dosemu-freedos gnome-themes-extras libglib1.2 libgssapi2 libopenexr2c2a libsasl2 libssp0 libufsparse libvte4 linux-kernel-headers |
| 05:44.30 | bfrog | so it seems |
| 05:44.36 | cico | but I need dosemu-freedos. what should I do? |
| 05:44.50 | simonrvn | FSVO "not legal" |
| 05:45.19 | slump | bfrog: don`t know about it. but if lame is not on repository packs, then, there'll be something about your license. |
| 05:45.31 | EruditeHermit | is anyone else having problems with gimp in sid? |
| 05:45.32 | simonrvn | cico: start using aptitude |
| 05:46.03 | cico | simonrvn: I already did an apt-get update, and apt-get install which got stuck in between due to network problems. now I have to resume the install |
| 05:46.07 | simonrvn | cico: *especially* if you're dist-upgrading like that |
| 05:46.15 | cico | simonrvn: can I use aptitude at this stage? |
| 05:46.16 | simonrvn | and? |
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| 05:46.54 | cico | simonrvn: ok, I am switching to aptitude then. any precautions I need to take in order to switch to aptitude? |
| 05:47.15 | magichere | hi, anyone is familiar with freevo ? |
| 05:47.25 | simonrvn | be careful to not pull in more than you want. might want to customize that |
| 05:47.27 | slump | s4v: it's strange if u are running the "stable" branch. |
| 05:47.54 | s4v | slump: :-( everything is so weird to me too |
| 05:48.09 | slump | what output you got after disting upgrade? |
| 05:48.13 | cico | simonrvn: ok but why does it want to remove dosemu-freedos in the first place? |
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| 05:49.16 | simonrvn | cico: check the deps |
| 05:49.27 | bfrog | been using archlinux for so long, forgot what illegal packages meant.. |
| 05:49.32 | bfrog | because... you know... they don't care |
| 05:49.35 | simonrvn | hit enter on the package and see |
| 05:49.42 | cico | simonrvn: I am doing, aptitude update; aptitude install. |
| 05:49.43 | w0nder | how do i search my entire filesystem for a file? |
| 05:49.51 | s4v | slump: I lost the output but I'm getting exactly the same error. the dist-upgrade was successfull though |
| 05:49.52 | simonrvn | what's this about "illegal" pakages? |
| 05:50.02 | cico | simonrvn: it wants to remove these:- gaim-data libavahi-compat-howl0 libcamel1.2-8 libebook1.2-5 libecal1.2-6 libedata-cal1.2-5 libedataserverui1.2-6 libeel2-2.14 libegroupwise1.2-10 libgail17 libgcj7-0 libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-1 libgpod0 libgucharmap4 libiw28 libmdbtools libmyspell3c2 libnautilus-burn3 libportaudio0 libservlet2.3-java libvte4 libxklavier10 mkisofs pmount python-xdg |
| 05:50.03 | simonrvn | pack* |
| 05:50.09 | cico | simonrvn: is this fine? |
| 05:50.13 | simonrvn | cico: check the deps |
| 05:50.28 | simonrvn | use the interactive mode... |
| 05:50.28 | s4v | it didn't showed anthing actually.. the last line was the name of an updated package |
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| 05:50.43 | w0nder | (just in case it got lost behind cico's long post): how do I search my entire filesystem for a file? |
| 05:50.45 | s4v | it didn't showed any diff message, I mean |
| 05:50.52 | slump | s4v: apt-get install irci-hybrid, what out get ? |
| 05:50.53 | simonrvn | w0nder: find |
| 05:51.03 | cico | w0nder: find / -name "filename" |
| 05:51.13 | w0nder | easy enough |
| 05:51.14 | simonrvn | w0nder: man find; freebie: find /path -iname '*somefilename*' |
| 05:51.25 | s4v | slump: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ircd-hybrid_1%3a7.2.2.dfsg.2-3_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 05:51.27 | cico | w0nder: you can also try "locate" |
| 05:51.47 | s4v | slump: somehow dpkg can't unpack it |
| 05:52.00 | simonrvn | s4v: keep reading |
| 05:52.15 | simonrvn | s4v: that's useless, just says what happened, not why it happened |
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| 05:52.48 | simonrvn | Supaplex: yeh really... pretty bad |
| 05:53.05 | slump | s4v: apt-get clean; apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install ircd-hybrid. |
| 05:53.12 | s4v | thanks slump |
| 05:53.44 | simonrvn | cico: using the interactive mode is a lot easier to figure out what's going on |
| 05:54.03 | Supaplex | simonrvn: I have a printer that can use 17x22" paper :) |
| 05:54.11 | s4v | slump: ouch :| I'm still getting the error. the proceess was very quick since it's all alreay updated |
| 05:54.18 | cico | simonrvn: I am unable to find my way in the interactive mode. there is no dist-upgrade section in it. |
| 05:54.23 | simonrvn | Supaplex: hehe |
| 05:54.30 | slump | s4v: so you have the package installed? |
| 05:54.41 | simonrvn | cico: uh, g to 'g'et the stuff |
| 05:54.44 | s4v | slump: no. I apt-get remove'd it |
| 05:54.52 | simonrvn | cico: 'u'pdate |
| 05:54.54 | slump | why? hehe. |
| 05:55.04 | simonrvn | cico: check the help, that's what it's there for ;) |
| 05:55.46 | s4v | because I wanted to have new conf files so I removed it, deleted /etc/ircd-hybrid and tried to install it again, but got this error |
| 05:56.03 | slump | dpkg -l | grep ircd |
| 05:56.03 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep ircd |
| 05:56.04 | s4v | I screwed up the configuration files :>) that's why I tried to start all over again |
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| 05:56.25 | slump | dpkg --purge ircd-hybrid |
| 05:56.37 | Supaplex | !tell s4v -about confmiss |
| 05:56.58 | s4v | WOW |
| 05:57.16 | s4v | slump: it works!!! thanks _a lot_ |
| 05:57.20 | slump | hehe |
| 05:57.22 | s4v | you are my personal jesus christ :P |
| 05:57.32 | s4v | -- some weird matrix character |
| 05:57.35 | s4v | thank you :) |
| 05:57.39 | slump | if you want to remove the one package and it's confs files |
| 05:57.49 | slump | apt-get remove --purge package |
| 05:58.09 | slump | s/one///g |
| 05:58.10 | simonrvn | that debian-unofficial.org site has libapache*-mod-security, if anyone's interested |
| 05:58.17 | s4v | alright |
| 05:58.28 | w0nder | hmm... not finding the file i need.... winbindd_pam_auth_crap |
| 05:58.55 | bfrog | how come there's no nvidia package? |
| 05:58.57 | slump | is just crap :D |
| 05:59.11 | simonrvn | ...whcih i'll have to rebuild for my sid backport *SIGH* *GRR* |
| 05:59.28 | cico | simonrvn: aptitude dist-upgrade says, that it will remove, "libgcj7-0" and install "libgcj8-1", but in the interactive mode, when I do a search for libgcj, I don't find this package names, instead I find, libgcj-bc, libgcj-common, etc. |
| 05:59.44 | slump | anyone running sid? |
| 06:00.06 | simonrvn | cico: keep looking, n for next search result; you can do a substring search you know ;) |
| 06:00.09 | Supaplex | !anyone use sid |
| 06:00.09 | dpkg | No, no one uses sid, not even the people who use it. |
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| 06:00.29 | cico | simonrvn: it is arranged in alphabetical order, it is not there. |
| 06:00.33 | simonrvn | Supaplex: eh? why did you do that? |
| 06:00.34 | slump | i had some problem. installed testing, xorg-core 7.3+3 had problems on upgrading. |
| 06:00.47 | slump | but, |
| 06:01.02 | simonrvn | cico: the thing probably provides it, enter on it will tell you |
| 06:01.10 | simonrvn | *pressing enter |
| 06:01.16 | slump | i installed stable, upgraded to testing then -> sid, no problem :/ |
| 06:01.37 | cico | simonrvn: got it. thanks! :-) |
| 06:01.42 | simonrvn | :) |
| 06:01.49 | slump | and my machine on work, that runs sid, upgraded ok to xorg-core 7.3+3 |
| 06:01.57 | simonrvn | !customer |
| 06:01.57 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 06:01.59 | slump | just with testing->sid had problems. |
| 06:02.03 | slump | strange. |
| 06:02.55 | slump | s/on/at/g |
| 06:02.56 | slump | english is so fucking difficult ;) |
| 06:02.56 | Supaplex | simonrvn: why did I do what? |
| 06:03.04 | slump | but sometime ahead i'll speak better ;) |
| 06:03.10 | simonrvn | "!anyone use sid" |
| 06:03.26 | cico | simonrvn: what does the the 'p', 'i', 'A' in the left side mean? |
| 06:03.47 | Supaplex | simonrvn: slump asked :) |
| 06:03.52 | simonrvn | purge, installed, auto-selected for installation |
| 06:03.58 | simonrvn | Supaplex: aah ok :) |
| 06:04.25 | Supaplex | simonrvn: and the printing is getting gradually better with each clean cycle. |
| 06:04.31 | slump | my girlfriend is sleeping and i received a offer to a new work. i'am happy. |
| 06:04.40 | cico | simonrvn: lots of things are in 'p' status, but how can something be in purge when I never installed them? |
| 06:04.47 | slump | want to drink more beers |
| 06:05.01 | slump | Wed Nov 7 04:05:00 BRST 2007 |
| 06:05.04 | slump | hehe. |
| 06:05.27 | cico | !beer |
| 06:05.27 | dpkg | beer is probably liquid gold mate |
| 06:05.27 | slump | and i need to wake up at 08:00 |
| 06:05.30 | slump | :' |
| 06:05.30 | Supaplex | cico: hax0rs |
| 06:05.53 | bfrog | how would I enabled hidd to run |
| 06:06.05 | bfrog | is there some sort of conf file for init.d options |
| 06:06.12 | Supaplex | cico: eg, that's by design. |
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| 06:06.21 | simonrvn | cico: that's what it means in that case, just "not installed" |
| 06:06.31 | cico | simonrvn: v for? |
| 06:06.47 | cico | is A for those which are installed because they are dependencies for some selected package? |
| 06:06.56 | simonrvn | i don't recall... i don't think i've ever seen it |
| 06:07.21 | simonrvn | cico: yeh, the A were pulled in due to deps or recommends (you can turn the latter off) |
| 06:07.49 | simonrvn | !beer slump |
| 06:08.01 | cico | simonrvn: when I try to see the list using "dpkg -l", it gives lesser results. |
| 06:08.08 | simonrvn | slump: you'll probably want a coffee too |
| 06:08.13 | simonrvn | !coffee slump |
| 06:08.20 | simonrvn | cico: yes |
| 06:08.30 | simonrvn | cico: the A is an aptitude thing |
| 06:08.30 | cico | simonrvn: why less results? |
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| 06:09.39 | simonrvn | cico: apt-get in lenny and sid supports the beginnings of that sort of thing |
| 06:09.57 | simonrvn | autoremove and other options |
| 06:10.10 | magichere | How to install vx support ? |
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| 06:10.19 | simonrvn | vx? |
| 06:10.27 | magichere | -vo xv |
| 06:10.28 | simonrvn | !info vx |
| 06:10.37 | magichere | en .thank u |
| 06:10.41 | factor | anyone know if xen source will do a make-kpkg or how to get it to work |
| 06:10.42 | simonrvn | oh, that's XVideo, it's already there |
| 06:10.47 | simonrvn | magichere: ^^^ |
| 06:11.02 | cico | simonrvn: does dpkg -l show the status of installed packages only? because I can't see any packages in dpkg -l which have 'p' status in aptitude. |
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| 06:11.22 | magichere | en .thank u |
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| 06:11.54 | simonrvn | cico: do dpkg -l | head -n 6 you'll see what the letters mean |
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| 06:12.10 | dimaka | morning |
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| 06:12.52 | import | is there a way to apt-get install through ssh. Say im connected to my mothers computer from my house, I want to install gimp for her through apt-get install gimp. is this possible |
| 06:12.57 | simonrvn | cico: aptitude and dpkg have slightly different output to say the same things |
| 06:12.57 | ma3x | hey why is the TT hinting not enabled in freetype? |
| 06:13.05 | ma3x | due to licensing restrictions |
| 06:13.06 | ma3x | ? |
| 06:13.14 | simonrvn | import: of course it is |
| 06:13.35 | import | so i just get into root then apt-get install gimp and it will set it up for her? |
| 06:13.40 | simonrvn | import: ssh is another shell, connected remotely |
| 06:13.43 | simonrvn | yes |
| 06:13.45 | cico | ok |
| 06:13.46 | import | sweet |
| 06:13.51 | simonrvn | ssh == secure shell |
| 06:14.07 | jzu | Hi. |
| 06:14.18 | import | okay now can i execute a file on her computer say gimp and she will see it? |
| 06:14.25 | jzu | hehe, Im quite amazed my Sun Ultra 2 is still running :O |
| 06:14.26 | simonrvn | !say jzu: hi |
| 06:14.27 | dpkg | jzu: hi |
| 06:14.32 | jzu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.39 | cico | aptitude is great, it is so sophisticated. why don't people use it? In all examples, I see they ask us to install using apt-get. |
| 06:14.40 | import | this will also be through ssh |
| 06:14.42 | simonrvn | import: not so simple |
| 06:14.48 | jzu | Ive been running it as private shell and www-server for a year or so |
| 06:14.56 | import | where can i read about this? im up for learning |
| 06:14.58 | simonrvn | well it is, but for a newbie no |
| 06:15.25 | import | im not too new i have followed linux from red hat 6 |
| 06:15.28 | jzu | yeah, it's possible but it may not be easy for newbie :) |
| 06:15.36 | jzu | import: then just apt-get install gimp :-) |
| 06:15.37 | import | the days when you manually set everyting up |
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| 06:15.41 | simonrvn | import: x-forwarding, setting environemnt variables, and having an x server running with certain options |
| 06:16.05 | import | aww okay |
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| 06:16.40 | cico | import: you don't have to do all that, you can simply apt-get install gimp and then ask her to open gimp from the menu. |
| 06:16.52 | import | so i need to set up a seperate x enviornment on her machine so ssh will use that. Okay dont have that much time maybe there is a program to make it simpler. :P |
| 06:16.53 | simonrvn | a lot simpler ;) |
| 06:17.03 | simonrvn | what cico said |
| 06:17.07 | import | k |
| 06:17.36 | cico | btw is there any remote desktop control thing that can make it easier? |
| 06:17.49 | simonrvn | rdesktop, and some others |
| 06:17.51 | cico | where we don't have to open up another X and export DISPLAY, etc. |
| 06:17.53 | cico | ok |
| 06:17.59 | import | aww sounds good |
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| 06:20.36 | jzu | just apt-get it and tell her to open it :) |
| 06:20.54 | jzu | she may need to restart windowmanager to get Gimp appear in the Windowmanagers list of applications |
| 06:21.41 | import | cico thanks that works wonders |
| 06:21.45 | cico | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.49 | import | i also installed grdesktop |
| 06:22.10 | cico | import: which one works wonders? asking her to open from menu? :-) |
| 06:22.17 | import | rdesktop |
| 06:22.28 | cico | import: thank simonrvn, he suggested it. |
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| 06:22.46 | import | oh thank you simonrvn |
| 06:23.06 | simonrvn | np |
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| 06:24.06 | ma3x | what options should i edit to enable freetype TT ? |
| 06:25.38 | stiv2k | ive always wondered why even though both of my CPUs show up running at full speed, top says 100% CPU usage, but my gnome-system-monitor only says like 65-70% use |
| 06:25.58 | stiv2k | and in multiple CPUs i mean dual core. |
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| 06:28.59 | cico | In an upgrade, there can be no packages going to be "Installed", all would be "Automatically installed", Only in dist-upgrade, new packages would be "Installed", am I right? |
| 06:29.22 | tysonc | running "apt-get source python-dbus=0.82.2-1" gives me "E: Unable to find a source package for dbus-python". Is there a lenny repository available that contains all package sources, even the old (stale) ones? |
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| 06:30.58 | tysonc | cico: automatically installed packages were installed to satisfy a dependency. installed packages were explicitly selected for installation. |
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| 06:31.45 | cico | tysonc: so, I am asking in an upgrade, can new packages be explicitly selected for installation. I think not. Doesn't that happen only on dist-upgrade? |
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| 06:32.40 | tysonc | cico: the main difference between uprgade and dist-upgrade is installation of new packages and packages that have been held back (eg: kernel) |
| 06:33.06 | cico | tysonc: "packages held back" meaning? |
| 06:34.15 | cico | tysonc: can a new package be selected for "installation" in an upgrade? |
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| 06:35.05 | jeyk1982 | hi |
| 06:35.11 | tysonc | cico: certain packages might be dangerous to upgrade via automated means (eg: apt-get upgrade in a cron script), because they require user intervention such as a machine reboot to complete. these packages are typically things like your linux kernel |
| 06:35.29 | tysonc | cico: I don't think so |
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| 06:36.52 | jeyk1982 | anyone installed dual boot on raid??? |
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| 06:38.34 | tysonc | jeyk1982: dual boot of linux/linux, or another OS? |
| 06:39.43 | tysonc | jeyk1982: also, what sort of raid? software/hardware/transparent hardware/... ? |
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| 06:41.38 | tysonc | jeyk1982: the answer is yes, someone has installed dual-boot on raid. if they've done what you're trying to do is unknown, you haven't told us exactly what you are trying to achieve, and you haven't told us what specific problem you are having. |
| 06:41.44 | jeyk1982 | linux/xp on sw ish raid, intel integrated... |
| 06:42.20 | jeyk1982 | i cant boot from the mbr |
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| 06:42.55 | tysonc | where did you install the mbr to? |
| 06:42.56 | jeyk1982 | any ideas |
| 06:43.18 | tysonc | jeyk1982: which boot manager? lilo? grub? |
| 06:43.33 | jeyk1982 | i installed grub to the mbr (only option) grub |
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| 06:44.10 | tysonc | jeyk1982: does grub successfuly load both stages 1 and 2? |
| 06:44.26 | jeyk1982 | no it goes stright to xp |
| 06:44.32 | elnovatillo | Good morning, how can i convert NTFS to EXT3 ? |
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| 06:44.55 | Kikkoman | Hi, I cannot use a google. |
| 06:45.02 | Kikkoman | I literally cannot connect to google in any way. |
| 06:45.09 | Kikkoman | This also happens with Ask and Yahoo. |
| 06:45.11 | mazzanet | win 22 |
| 06:45.15 | tysonc | jeyk1982: installing XP after installing linux is a common cause for what you are seeing. you may need to re-install grub to the mbr. |
| 06:45.18 | mazzanet | bah |
| 06:45.34 | jeyk1982 | i installed linux after |
| 06:45.53 | jeyk1982 | a im not completetly useless |
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| 06:46.34 | tysonc | jeyk1982: you can't tell in here, some people ask silly questions like "I canot use a google". ;-) |
| 06:46.44 | Kikkoman | Dear #Debian, I cannot connect to any search engines whatsoever. I am not using a proxy, and my router is not the problem. How can I fix this? |
| 06:46.55 | Kikkoman | :P Seriously, I can't connect to any search engines. |
| 06:47.03 | elnovatillo | Good morning, how can i convert NTFS to EXT3 ? (i did it once years ago now i cant remember how i did) thank in advance |
| 06:47.09 | Kikkoman | This is weird, because on my Windows HD, I can connect fine. |
| 06:47.15 | Bryanstein | Kikkoman, ping google.com |
| 06:47.20 | elnovatillo | Kikkoman: Call you ISP |
| 06:47.27 | Bryanstein | it is a dns issue or something lol |
| 06:47.33 | Kikkoman | PING google.com (72.14.207.99) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 06:47.35 | Bryanstein | your dns server is wacky |
| 06:47.40 | Kikkoman | It resolves, but doesn't connect |
| 06:48.03 | jeyk1982 | blocked |
| 06:48.09 | Kikkoman | ...No, that's not it. |
| 06:48.13 | tysonc | jeyk1982: what is in your grub menu.lst file? |
| 06:48.14 | jeyk1982 | trn w/ no proxy |
| 06:48.19 | Kikkoman | I have two hard drives, one linux, one windows |
| 06:48.23 | Kikkoman | I can connect fine with windows |
| 06:48.26 | Bryanstein | well it is a dns issue...change your dns server and see if that helps |
| 06:48.27 | Kikkoman | I am not using a proxy. |
| 06:48.30 | jeyk1982 | i dunno i dont get that far |
| 06:48.50 | Kikkoman | ..Change my DNS server...How would I do that? |
| 06:48.53 | jeyk1982 | it boots straight to windows |
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| 06:49.02 | elnovatillo | Kikkoman: search engines sucks afterall |
| 06:49.12 | Bryanstein | well you have to edit the /etc/resolv.conf |
| 06:49.24 | Bryanstein | is should be a line that says nameserver |
| 06:49.33 | Kikkoman | nameserver 192.168.0.1 |
| 06:49.35 | Kikkoman | That's it |
| 06:49.39 | Bryanstein | that is it ? |
| 06:49.39 | Kikkoman | ...oh |
| 06:49.41 | Kikkoman | Yeah |
| 06:49.42 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 06:49.48 | jeyk1982 | try 4.2.2.1 |
| 06:49.49 | Bryanstein | that is your router huh |
| 06:49.51 | Kikkoman | # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! |
| 06:49.54 | Kikkoman | It says that at the top |
| 06:49.55 | tysonc | jeyk1982: you can try booting from your debian install CD/DVD and choosing advanced install mode, then choosing "install a boot loader". |
| 06:50.01 | Bryanstein | lol jeyk1982 |
| 06:50.05 | Bryanstein | I know that one too |
| 06:50.16 | Bryanstein | so easy to remember |
| 06:50.37 | Kikkoman | So, should I have the nameserver as the Primary DNS Server as listed in my router? |
| 06:50.44 | elnovatillo | pd;cgopfg;vgogvcvffgugpf8rt;f8fdfigigg90lghgkgjgligbhgvklvjjvbkigugbvkvyhcvkdgfryhflrtyr |
| 06:50.51 | jeyk1982 | ya |
| 06:50.51 | bullgard5 | In /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist I added a line "blacklist 8139cp". I rebooted. lsmod still shows an entry '8139cp'. Why? |
| 06:50.54 | Bryanstein | well that is where you are getting your dns from now |
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| 06:51.15 | ma3x | how the hell do you .tar.bz2 with bzip2? |
| 06:51.16 | Kikkoman | Yeah, but it's not my ISP's dns |
| 06:51.17 | jeyk1982 | set your router to dhcp |
| 06:51.20 | ma3x | bzip2: Input file freetype-2.2.1/ is a directory. |
| 06:51.23 | Kikkoman | It's on DHCP |
| 06:51.26 | elnovatillo | gllgigoggb |
| 06:51.35 | Bryanstein | Kikkoman, your router gets the dns from your isp |
| 06:51.36 | jeyk1982 | release/renew |
| 06:51.41 | Kikkoman | it shows a Primary DNS as an ip (74.211.somethingorother) |
| 06:51.58 | tysonc | ma3x: tar -jcf outputfile.tar.bz2 file1 file2 ... |
| 06:52.01 | Kikkoman | ..oh |
| 06:52.07 | ma3x | thanks |
| 06:52.10 | Kikkoman | It is showing 0.0.0.0 for everything |
| 06:52.14 | Kikkoman | I have it written down though |
| 06:52.24 | elnovatillo | Good morning, how can i convert NTFS to EXT3 ? (i did it once years ago now i cant remember how i did) thank in advance |
| 06:52.42 | tysonc | Kikkoman: have you edited /etc/network/interfaces and made eth0 use DHCP? |
| 06:52.49 | Bambi_BOFH | elnovatillo: i dont think you can 'live' convert |
| 06:53.05 | tysonc | elnovatillo: take a backup, mkfs.ext3, restore? |
| 06:53.47 | Kikkoman | allow-hotplug eth1 |
| 06:53.47 | Kikkoman | iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 06:53.47 | Kikkoman | |
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| 06:54.04 | Kikkoman | That's where it says #The Primary ethernet interface |
| 06:54.11 | Kikkoman | network* |
| 06:54.19 | tysonc | Kikkoman: does eth0 show up when you type "/sbin/ifconfig" ?? |
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| 06:55.15 | Kikkoman | No |
| 06:55.16 | Kikkoman | Just eth1 |
| 06:55.26 | elnovatillo | tysonc i swear i did a NTS to EXT3 live conevrt... i cant remember how!! |
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| 06:55.37 | elnovatillo | ouy |
| 06:55.39 | tysonc | elnovatillo: gparted perhaps? |
| 06:55.51 | Vasistha | Kikkoman: have you tried pinging google's IP, 64.233.167.99, to verify that it's a dns problem? |
| 06:55.55 | ice63 | msg dpkg lenny |
| 06:55.59 | tysonc | elnovatillo: ntfstools may have something too... |
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| 06:56.27 | tysonc | Kikkoman: what IP shows up next to eth1? |
| 06:56.33 | elnovatillo | ok ill chek those, jsut i CANT backup 800bg |
| 06:56.34 | jeyk1982 | goto futureshop, buy 500gig usb drive, copy files, format drive, copy files back, return 500gig drive |
| 06:56.38 | Kikkoman | Vasistha: I can't ping it. |
| 06:56.55 | Kikkoman | tysonc: inet addr:192.168.0.188 |
| 06:57.00 | jeyk1982 | easy breazy |
| 06:57.03 | Vasistha | Kikkoman: ah, then it sounds like this isn't necessarily a dns problem (although there may additionally be a dns problem) |
| 06:57.03 | jeyk1982 | lol |
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| 06:57.33 | elnovatillo | etch = stable? |
| 06:57.42 | Vasistha | elnovatillo: yes |
| 06:57.43 | mbuf | if i would like to use SUBDIRS in a top-level Makefile, what needs to be added in the sub-directory Makefile.am? |
| 06:57.50 | mbuf | *top-level Makefile.am |
| 06:57.52 | tysonc | Kikkoman: and what routes show when you type "/sbin/route" ?? |
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| 06:58.22 | elnovatillo | and what is "testing" now? (sorry im back to debian after 5 yeras) |
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| 06:58.33 | tysonc | elnovatillo: lenny is testing |
| 06:58.33 | Supaplex | !testing |
| 06:58.33 | dpkg | testing is, like, a release/suite between <stable> and <unstable>. testing currently points to <lenny>. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. Ask me about <etch->lenny> |
| 06:58.45 | Vasistha | mbuf: why don't you ask in ##c |
| 06:58.52 | jeyk1982 | so, no ideas for grub? |
| 06:58.53 | elnovatillo | M |
| 06:58.57 | mbuf | Vasistha, ok |
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| 06:59.14 | Bryanstein | elnovatillo, you can convert but you have to move the data to another drive so it is virtually pointless |
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| 06:59.37 | Vasistha | jeyk1982: why don't you ask your complete question on one line ... I missed it, for one... |
| 06:59.37 | Bryanstein | you can't do it without destroying the data |
| 06:59.50 | ma3x | can anyone help me with packaging? |
| 07:00.15 | Bryanstein | you make have converted from ext2 to 3 or vice versus but not ext3 from ntfs without moving the data |
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| 07:00.18 | tysonc | Supaplex: thanks, you answered my question on which lenny repository contains old (stale) sources - the answer is in the lenny FAQ: ftp-master.debian.org |
| 07:00.30 | Supaplex | yay :) |
| 07:00.44 | Bryanstein | waht does help with packing mean ma3x |
| 07:01.30 | tysonc | elnovatillo: you could try ntfsresize and ext3 resive tools, moving chunks of data between resize operations... |
| 07:01.32 | ma3x | Bryanstein, I get the source then it gives me more .tar.bz2 files. I unpack and change some options in one of them. then I pack it back to .tar.bz2 and it's not allowing me to build the package because I changed it |
| 07:01.35 | Vasistha | ma3x: I'm pretty sure there's a channel better suited to that, but I can't remember what it is ... it'll almost certainly be on OFTC |
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| 07:01.55 | ma3x | Vasistha, you hang there? |
| 07:02.03 | Kikkoman | INFO] Mon Feb 02 15:50:39 2004 Blocked incoming TCP packet from 137.120.180.89:9001 to 74.211.20.140:3898 as ACK received but there is no active connection |
| 07:02.07 | Kikkoman | That is in my router log |
| 07:02.08 | Vasistha | ma3x: not usually, no |
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| 07:02.46 | jeyk1982 | I installed a dual boot Xp then Linux, on a sw raid. I installed Grub to the MBR but when i boot i dont boot grub. i go straight to xp |
| 07:02.47 | ma3x | so do you know anything about it? |
| 07:03.35 | Vasistha | ma3x: no, that's why I recommend you go over to OFTC ... it may be #debian-devel or some such chan |
| 07:03.49 | ice63 | i have a question. can i upgrade from etch to lenny by changing my /etc/apt/sources.list will this work ? |
| 07:04.34 | elnovatillo | ice63: yes, im doing that right now |
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| 07:04.48 | tysonc | ice63: yes, you can. "apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade" will need to be run after updating /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:05.12 | ice63 | ok |
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| 07:05.41 | tysonc | jeyk1982: it might be that grub installed stage 1 to a partition boot record, not to the master boot record... |
| 07:06.47 | ice63 | elnovatillo: tysonc think you |
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| 07:08.50 | axscode | is knoppix debian base? |
| 07:09.52 | Supaplex | !knoppix |
| 07:09.52 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: https://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-knoppix/ http://debian-knoppix.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 07:17.34 | oooook100 | hello |
| 07:17.38 | oooook100 | anyone there? |
| 07:19.07 | elnovatillo | im here |
| 07:19.16 | oooook100 | ah |
| 07:19.25 | oooook100 | wasnt sure if my messages wer being sent |
| 07:19.30 | elnovatillo | trying to convert 800gb pr0n NTFS to EXT3 |
| 07:19.43 | oooook100 | anyways any way to install linux over linux on same partition |
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| 07:20.51 | oooook100 | anyone ? :P |
| 07:20.59 | oooook100 | theres gotta be a way to do this |
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| 07:21.56 | elnovatillo | oooook100: mount a news partition on the same hd install there |
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| 07:22.15 | oooook100 | all on the same partition |
| 07:22.19 | oooook100 | has to be |
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| 07:22.26 | oooook100 | same file system as well :D |
| 07:22.30 | n_np | where does one set the writable directory of vsftp? |
| 07:22.34 | elnovatillo | use a virtual machine |
| 07:22.56 | oooook100 | im jus trying to get how this can be done |
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| 07:23.16 | patrakov | hello, I have seen some threads that Realtek 8169 cards are bad if used with samba - is this really true? what throughput should I expect? |
| 07:23.32 | cast | n_np: have you tried..readying any documentation? |
| 07:23.43 | n_np | nope |
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| 07:24.03 | corevette | does debian etch include madwifi? |
| 07:24.04 | elnovatillo | i hear a RTFM incomming....... |
| 07:24.10 | oooook100 | hmmmmm |
| 07:24.19 | patrakov | corevette: in non-free, perhaps? |
| 07:24.21 | mike^^ | hm im having problems with apm, i've tried the 2.6.22-3 kernel. modprobe failed, compiled 2.6.24rc2 got some errors on apm, no go, have been so for as long as i can remember, apmd says no APM kernel support |
| 07:24.26 | mike^^ | any clues? |
| 07:24.29 | corevette | does debian include madwifi? |
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| 07:24.33 | cast | n_np: well in that case, rtfm^H^H^H^Hno comment. |
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| 07:25.31 | MrWGW | how do I check that a port is open as root? |
| 07:25.34 | MrWGW | sorry, stupid n00b question |
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| 07:25.44 | Supaplex | netstat |
| 07:25.48 | MrWGW | ty |
| 07:25.53 | Supaplex | as any user :) |
| 07:25.56 | corevette_ | does debian include madwifi? |
| 07:26.06 | Supaplex | !madwifi |
| 07:26.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, madwifi is a driver for wireless devices with an Atheros chipset. More information can be found at http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian. To install madwifi drivers built against Debian stock kernels, ask me about <madwifi-install>. NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask me about <zd1211rw> instead. #madwifi @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 07:26.23 | Supaplex | corevette_: in short, yes. <installit> |
| 07:26.36 | elnovatillo | !ntfs |
| 07:26.36 | dpkg | ntfs is, like, Windows NT's filesystem. There are 2 main drivers in Debian, a Linux driver only able to read and NTFS-3G, a FUSE driver able to write too. For information about the former, ask me about <ntfsro>. For information about the latter, ask me about <ntfs-3g>. See also http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ and http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html |
| 07:26.39 | corevette_ | !madwifi-install |
| 07:26.39 | dpkg | i guess madwifi-install is ask me about <non-free>, then as root: "apt-get update ; apt-get install module-assistant ; m-a prepare ; m-a a-i madwifi". You should now have madwifi installed. Note: Atheros = ath0, NOT eth0. |
| 07:27.06 | MrWGW | the port number is "I NODE"? |
| 07:27.07 | n_np | there is no write directory for vsftp |
| 07:27.08 | MrWGW | err |
| 07:27.08 | n_np | wtf |
| 07:27.09 | MrWGW | I Node |
| 07:27.34 | susam | MrWGW: port number and inodes are different. |
| 07:27.38 | MrWGW | ok |
| 07:27.52 | Supaplex | MrWGW: inodes are most likely unix sockets. not tcp/ip |
| 07:28.11 | susam | !tell MrWGW about inode |
| 07:28.14 | Supaplex | but inodes are use for file system descriptors to |
| 07:28.27 | MrWGW | I'm just reading the netstat output |
| 07:28.35 | MrWGW | trying to figure out what would actually refer to the port number |
| 07:28.48 | Supaplex | as in what program? that's netstat -p |
| 07:28.57 | Supaplex | netstat -p is best run as root |
| 07:28.58 | MrWGW | ah ok |
| 07:29.00 | MrWGW | ok |
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| 07:30.07 | susam | !tell MrWGW about port |
| 07:30.19 | patrakov | anyone with realtek 8169 based card and samba? |
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| 07:31.06 | MrWGW | I still don't see where I'm supposed to look in that readout for the port number |
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| 07:31.58 | anom01y | how can I undelete files ?" |
| 07:32.23 | MrWGW | assuming you didn't rm them? They should be in the "trash bin" on your desktop or thereabouts |
| 07:32.43 | MrWGW | and you can drag and drop them to where you wish...if you removed them using the command line you're SOL generally |
| 07:32.44 | liable | !undelete |
| 07:32.44 | dpkg | undeleting is probably Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" form menu. With ext3fs, reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. |
| 07:33.32 | anom01y | yeah its ext3 |
| 07:33.41 | anom01y | so those files are gone for good ?? |
| 07:33.43 | Supaplex | patrakov: let me guess, gigabit card, lackluster price, and lackluster performance? |
| 07:33.44 | MrWGW | well unless you deleted it with "move to trash" you are screwed |
| 07:33.58 | anom01y | yeah I shift-deleted them |
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| 07:34.10 | anom01y | I even trried hitting the cancel button, but it was too late |
| 07:34.21 | anom01y | thats toooo bad |
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| 07:35.05 | Tomek | hi |
| 07:35.18 | cizra | anom01y: You could also try grepping the hard disk. |
| 07:35.19 | patrakov | Supaplex: I don't know, the boss only ordered the cards, and I found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427935 |
| 07:35.45 | anom01y | grepping ? |
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| 07:35.54 | Supaplex | patrakov: ok, so what's the question? |
| 07:36.13 | patrakov | Supaplex: what should I expect from these cards when used with samba? |
| 07:36.17 | Tomek | I am running debian etch (i386) and todays perl security update seems to brake the munin installation, because of architecture problems with perl. |
| 07:36.34 | anom01y | cizra: what is grepping ? |
| 07:36.34 | cizra | anom01y: Do you know what grep is? |
| 07:36.42 | anom01y | not really. |
| 07:36.48 | cizra | OK. Are you New to Linux then? |
| 07:36.50 | patrakov | Supaplex: and, is this specific to a particular make of the card (e.g., acorp vs genius) |
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| 07:37.00 | cizra | anom01y: What kind of files were those? Text? |
| 07:37.15 | anom01y | text, video, mp3, pdf |
| 07:37.18 | anom01y | everything |
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| 07:37.43 | cizra | Oh, well, I guess then you're screwed. |
| 07:37.53 | anom01y | thats crazy |
| 07:37.56 | cizra | Grepping can sometimes save text. |
| 07:38.14 | anom01y | there's lots of tools for undleting for ntfs |
| 07:38.28 | Supaplex | patrakov: imo I would shy away from realtek in production. i don't mind their rtl8139C+ but I haven't seen much good otherwise. |
| 07:38.56 | patrakov | Supaplex: too late :( |
| 07:40.27 | n_np | what is the chmod command to change a directory's group and owner? |
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| 07:40.34 | n_np | i've tried and failed by reading the documentation |
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| 07:40.42 | patrakov | n_np: chown |
| 07:41.03 | elnovatillo | n_np: are you saying the developers are cunts? |
| 07:41.13 | n_np | chmod +rwxrwxrwx incoming |
| 07:41.23 | n_np | why wont that work to make it writable to evertbody? |
| 07:41.34 | Supaplex | !tell n_np -about grounding |
| 07:41.38 | susam | n_np: you could have very well give, chmod a+rwx incoming |
| 07:41.43 | n_np | hmmm |
| 07:41.46 | n_np | ok |
| 07:42.02 | n_np | thanks! |
| 07:42.08 | n_np | i always mess up with chmod :/ |
| 07:42.09 | Supaplex | 777 on anything is a security eye sore |
| 07:42.18 | n_np | its just for uploads |
| 07:42.23 | spal | n_np: if it fails, may be you are not the owner of the file "incoming". |
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| 07:44.10 | n_np | damnn |
| 07:44.15 | n_np | it still wont work |
| 07:44.20 | n_np | so i must chown it to ftpuser group? |
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| 07:45.17 | dimir | Moin! |
| 07:46.42 | cast | vsftpd's default config is ro, you know? |
| 07:47.07 | n_np | yeah |
| 07:47.19 | n_np | but it still isnt working :/ |
| 07:48.04 | n_np | but who must be the owner of this directory so that anon users can upload? |
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| 07:49.35 | cizra | n_np: The same user vsftpd runs as, I guess |
| 07:49.42 | n_np | hmm |
| 07:49.53 | cizra | YAWG |
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| 07:51.01 | ekni000 | hello ? |
| 07:51.05 | n_np | hi |
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| 08:01.14 | xstation1 | hello |
| 08:01.45 | Supaplex | !hello |
| 08:01.45 | dpkg | Hi, supaplex! |
| 08:02.14 | cyberjames | !Hi |
| 08:02.14 | dpkg | hello, cyberjames |
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| 08:02.27 | xstation1 | what does this entry mean in the netstat print out tcp 0 0 *:submission *:* LISTEN |
| 08:02.41 | xstation1 | what is submission |
| 08:02.53 | Supaplex | it's an alternate smtp port |
| 08:03.08 | Supaplex | try using netstat -p as root |
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| 08:04.36 | Supaplex | cyberjames: do you have a debian question? |
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| 08:06.22 | xstation1 | Supaplex: thanks what am i looking for in netstat -p |
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| 08:07.07 | elnovatillo | how to enable Alsa sound card automaticly each reboot? |
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| 08:08.42 | pabix | Hello. I recently upgraded to sid and get "mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" now |
| 08:09.23 | Coweater | elnovatillo: you shouldn't need to enable it, are you just having to restore volume settings? you can run "alsactl store" as root to save those after setting them |
| 08:09.33 | ma3x | can somebody tell me his default fonts for firefox? |
| 08:09.33 | tarzeau | pabix: nvidia driver self installed from nvidia.com? |
| 08:09.34 | ma3x | i lost them |
| 08:09.42 | pabix | tarzeau, ati |
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| 08:09.52 | pabix | and I use ati driver in xorg.conf |
| 08:10.05 | tarzeau | ma3x: dejavu serif condensed? |
| 08:10.14 | pabix | I also tried to use fglrx driver, self-installed from last ATI proprietary release |
| 08:10.17 | elnovatillo | Coweater: thanks |
| 08:10.31 | elnovatillo | How to know what VIdeo drivers am i using?? |
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| 08:10.39 | ma3x | tarzeau, 1. proportional 2. serif 3. sans-serif and 4. monospace |
| 08:10.40 | ma3x | all please |
| 08:10.44 | pabix | and this error message also happens in console mode |
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| 08:11.04 | tarzeau | elnovatillo: glxinfo|grep vendor |
| 08:11.15 | tarzeau | ma3x: it's all of dejavu |
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| 08:11.33 | ma3x | tarzeau, every single one of them is set to dejavu?? |
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| 08:11.52 | tarzeau | ma3x: yes, different typefaces of dejavu |
| 08:12.33 | ma3x | tarzeau, is there a way to set them back to default? |
| 08:12.42 | ma3x | ie what firefox uses as standard? |
| 08:12.51 | pabix | glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 08:12.57 | tarzeau | ma3x: i don't think it has a standard, it doesn't ship fonts |
| 08:13.08 | ma3x | tarzeau, but its a setting not a font |
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| 08:16.41 | ma3x | tarzeau, the problem is that firefox stretches the fonts a little bit and makes them bold |
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| 08:20.14 | tarzeau | ma3x: version of firefox? rly firefox or iceweasel? |
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| 08:22.38 | ma3x | iceweasel |
| 08:22.44 | Hoxzer | :) |
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| 08:23.14 | tarzeau | ma3x: on what, etch? i386? |
| 08:23.25 | ma3x | etch |
| 08:24.16 | ma3x | my fonts set for iceweasel is default: serif and then proportional - serif, serif - serif, sans-serif - sans-serif, monospace - monospace |
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| 08:28.57 | import | what progam contains rletopnm |
| 08:29.46 | cydork | !tell import -about search |
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| 08:31.00 | import | cydork tried that |
| 08:31.19 | import | i did apt-cache search rletopnm |
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| 08:31.23 | import | didnt show anything |
| 08:31.36 | cast | import: read what dpkg said...all of it |
| 08:31.54 | sobersabre | hi. I want to do as follows: create a special folder, and each, say *.php file that gets in there to rename to *.mp3 |
| 08:31.57 | sobersabre | or *.html |
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| 08:32.20 | sobersabre | is there a mechanism that allows to trigger a script when new file is put into a given "watched" folder ? |
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| 08:32.40 | sobersabre | I think things like *notify are for this, but I don't know which one. |
| 08:32.51 | ma3x | tarzeau, I also have the option checked - allow pages to be using their own fonts. is that good? |
| 08:32.54 | cast | sure, or you could use a crontab every minute or 5 running rename |
| 08:33.14 | cydork | !find rletopnm etch |
| 08:33.20 | sobersabre | cast, NO this is called polling. I mean something else. |
| 08:33.20 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'rletopnm' (1): (/usr/bin/rletopnm) in graphics/netpbm. |
| 08:33.25 | import | okay |
| 08:33.27 | tarzeau | ma3x: yes, it allows webpages to use ANY font on your system (if available), junicode.sf.net does that, and: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/beteckna/readme.html |
| 08:33.29 | import | i found this |
| 08:33.29 | mypapit | going to shutdown |
| 08:33.38 | greenmang0 | which file stores gateway? |
| 08:33.41 | import | i did that in private message |
| 08:33.41 | tarzeau | ma3x: but sometimes firefox just crashes in such cases (crap software imho) |
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| 08:33.52 | sobersabre | cast, I means something like ... smart. |
| 08:33.58 | cydork | import: you should have used apt-file or packages.debian.org |
| 08:33.58 | sobersabre | not stupid cron. |
| 08:34.04 | ma3x | tarzeau, have you encountered this problem before? the fonts are just too stretched |
| 08:34.06 | cast | sobersabre: sure, like FAM |
| 08:34.10 | import | k |
| 08:34.16 | import | i did a apt-get intall netpbm |
| 08:34.19 | import | installing now |
| 08:34.21 | sobersabre | hmmm... |
| 08:34.23 | tarzeau | ma3x: no, but other problems with ligatures, it's known in bugs.debian.org/iceweasel |
| 08:34.24 | sobersabre | sounds nicer. |
| 08:34.36 | cast | sobersabre: there's...hmm. libnotify or some such, let me look |
| 08:34.40 | import | that works |
| 08:34.41 | ma3x | tarzeau, pages like yahoo for example which have many links........ some of the text links are being skipped (place on the next column) instead of being displayed in the same column |
| 08:34.48 | cast | p dnotify - Execute a command when the contents of a directory change |
| 08:34.49 | greenmang0 | sobersabre: do you know which file stores gateway? |
| 08:34.53 | cast | that sounds good |
| 08:35.08 | sobersabre | cast, libnotify is a lib. I want user app. |
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| 08:35.19 | sobersabre | ( or write a python/perl/bash script. |
| 08:35.30 | sobersabre | I'll try to rtfm |
| 08:35.31 | sobersabre | thanks |
| 08:35.38 | sobersabre | greenmang0, which gateway ? |
| 08:35.52 | click170 | Hey, when I modprobe a module, is it supposed to create an entry in any log anywhere if its successful? |
| 08:36.02 | tarzeau | click170: dmesg |
| 08:36.12 | wAndyw78 | sobersabre: do not reinvent the wheel, try dnotify first |
| 08:36.16 | greenmang0 | sobersabre: the one which we use to connect to Internet |
| 08:36.17 | sobersabre | click170, it depends on module. maybe the programmer didn't want you to do this. |
| 08:36.25 | greenmang0 | sobersabre: route add defaulg gw |
| 08:36.32 | sobersabre | greenmang0, you mean the one that your network interface is supposed to be using ? |
| 08:36.35 | import | cydork thank you for the help |
| 08:36.41 | greenmang0 | sobersabre: yeah |
| 08:36.45 | sobersabre | ( greenmang0 since route add there's things like ip route add ) |
| 08:36.51 | import | and you too cast |
| 08:36.53 | sobersabre | apropos interfaces |
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| 08:37.00 | sobersabre | greenmang0, run the prev. command... |
| 08:37.05 | sobersabre | and then man interfaces. |
| 08:37.13 | elnovatillo | How to know what Video driver am i running? |
| 08:37.16 | greenmang0 | sobersabre: which command? |
| 08:37.41 | greenmang0 | sobersabre: I just want to know which files stores this gateway |
| 08:37.54 | click170 | I'm trying to load a module, rt2570 for a wireless device to be specific, but I'm having some trouble. I can't tell if its loading the module or not. When I try to modprobe something random, I get a failure message, and when I modprobe rt2570 I don't, so thats the only indication I'm going on that its working. |
| 08:37.56 | wAndyw78 | greenmang0: for example: "route add default gw 192.168.1.1" |
| 08:38.04 | cast | sobersabre: ahh, correction: libnotify is a desktop notify thing...the kernels infrastructure is called inotify, inotify-tools might be worth looking into |
| 08:38.08 | greenmang0 | wAndyw78: yeah |
| 08:38.28 | wAndyw78 | click170: tyep "dmesg" |
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| 08:38.59 | greenmang0 | wAndyw78: now which file is storing this 192.168.1.1? |
| 08:39.13 | click170 | Ok, the last line I see looks relevent, "usbcore: registered new driver rt2570". I take that to mean it is loading the module as expected? |
| 08:39.31 | wAndyw78 | greenmang0: No file, RAM, this value is lost after reboot |
| 08:39.44 | greenmang0 | wAndyw78: OK |
| 08:39.48 | sobersabre | cast, I got to that already :) |
| 08:39.50 | sobersabre | thanks! |
| 08:39.58 | elnovatillo | plz How to know what Video driver am i running? |
| 08:40.17 | greenmang0 | wAndyw78: but when we reboot that gateway gets assigned again |
| 08:40.20 | greenmang0 | wAndyw78: how? |
| 08:40.27 | wAndyw78 | greenmang0: if you execute "iwconfig" is a interface wlan0 or ra0 shown? |
| 08:40.33 | capiira | hmmm hi is http://incoming.debian.org working ? it does not load here! |
| 08:40.37 | greenmang0 | wAndyw78: let me check |
| 08:40.51 | wAndyw78 | greenmang0: äh, sorry, was for click12 |
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| 08:41.05 | greenmang0 | wAndyw78: OK |
| 08:41.20 | elnovatillo | !video driver |
| 08:41.26 | wAndyw78 | greenmang0: Not for you :-) You can edit /etc/network/interfaces, to add the gw on startup |
| 08:41.28 | cydork | greenmang0: check man interfaces |
| 08:41.43 | greenmang0 | cydork: OK |
| 08:42.01 | pabix | tarzeau, OK, I solved it. |
| 08:42.04 | wAndyw78 | click170: shows iwconfig your card? |
| 08:42.40 | wAndyw78 | click170: I have the same chipset here, but a PCI card Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g |
| 08:42.42 | click170 | wAndyw78: iwconfig shows me interfaces, but none of them are the wireless device. lsusb also doesn't seem to recognize the attached device, so I'm stuck at the module is loading but I don't know what to do now in terms of trying to bring the interface up |
| 08:43.09 | wAndyw78 | click: which driver did you use? |
| 08:43.14 | click170 | wAndyw78: I'm working with a WUSB54Gv4, so I thought this kind of thing was supposed to be easy hehe. |
| 08:43.52 | greenmang0 | cydork: Thanks |
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| 08:43.55 | wAndyw78 | click170: there is also a possibility to "modprobe rt2561 debug=1" or so... |
| 08:44.43 | click170 | wAndy78: http://homepages.tu-darmstadt.de/~p_larbig/wlan/, as suggested on the aircrack wiki |
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| 08:45.14 | wAndyw78 | click170: And the drivers differ, there are the ORIGINAL driver from ralink for linux, then the "improved" ralink sources from serialmonkey, and the (from scratch) new programmed ones |
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| 08:47.50 | elnovatillo | plz How to know what Video driver am i running? |
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| 08:48.12 | click170 | wAndy78: What should I expect to happen when I load the module in a scenario where it just works? Is it supposed to take care of the interfaces and suddenly just show up in an ifconfig or iwconfig? If that is the case, then I take its failure to appear in an iwconfig to mean the module failed? |
| 08:48.18 | elnovatillo | grep... something... |
| 08:48.53 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo: Have a look at Xorg.log or yorg.conf ? |
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| 08:49.56 | elnovatillo | !glxgears |
| 08:49.56 | dpkg | hmm... glxgears is an opengl demo. it is not a good benchmark, in fact in recent versions of glxgears you must pass it the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark flag in order to get it to report fps information. now located in the mesa-utils package. |
| 08:49.58 | wAndyw78 | click170: Have a look at this http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page |
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| 08:50.39 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo: what do you try to elaborate? |
| 08:51.05 | elnovatillo | wAndyw78: i just want to know what video drive its loded in this moment |
| 08:51.11 | elnovatillo | loaded |
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| 08:51.52 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo: in a script? Why you don't look at the logfiles? |
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| 08:52.38 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log displays here: (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 96.43.01 Wed Sep 5 19:14:11 PDT 2007 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs |
| 08:52.51 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo: Is this, what you want? |
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| 08:53.32 | elnovatillo | yeah thanks Andy |
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| 08:57.12 | lucia | I'd like to know where to download video clips through rss.... |
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| 09:01.58 | ma3x | tarzeau, still there? |
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| 09:02.26 | tarzeau | ma3x: yes? |
| 09:02.46 | ma3x | tarzeau, i've modified the .tar.bz2 and then tried to package and i got this error |
| 09:02.46 | ma3x | http://paste.debian.net/41665 |
| 09:02.52 | ma3x | you know whats wrong? |
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| 09:03.15 | tarzeau | ma3x: yes you have a new upstream tarball, and it's not even tar.gz |
| 09:03.21 | elnovatillo | how do i know my video card has 3D acceleration enabled? |
| 09:03.25 | tarzeau | ma3x: you should make it tar.gz, increase the version (man dch) |
| 09:03.34 | ma3x | tarzeau, it's .tar.bz2 just like the old one |
| 09:03.34 | tarzeau | ma3x: not sure this is the right way to fix your problems |
| 09:03.56 | tarzeau | elnovatillo: glxinfo| grep OpenGL |
| 09:04.05 | simonrvn | glxinfo | grep direct |
| 09:04.16 | tarzeau | elnovatillo: or you just install something like sauerbraten bloboats brutalchess .. if it runs fast, you got it |
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| 09:04.40 | simonrvn | if it says "Yes" then you're good |
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| 09:05.10 | gryfel | ok..... I have a core-duo (not core 2 duo)-processor. I've installed in expert-mode kernel 2.6.xx-smp |
| 09:05.30 | gryfel | If I use find, I get a kernel-message |
| 09:05.47 | gryfel | (debug-messae I guess |
| 09:06.17 | gryfel | this is the 2nd time, I've installed debian (etch), both time this errors |
| 09:06.19 | elnovatillo | Thanks |
| 09:06.25 | ma3x | tarzeau so how can I solve this problem (fonts too stretched) ? |
| 09:06.27 | wAndyw78 | gryfel: How could we help, if we don't know the error message? |
| 09:06.40 | SlayerXP | wAndyw78: read his mind, duh. |
| 09:06.59 | gryfel | wAndyw78: No, I give first a general overview |
| 09:07.00 | elnovatillo | How to install ATI drivers for x1300 ? |
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| 09:07.17 | gryfel | One Moment, I have to type it manual in, it's on my other computer |
| 09:07.18 | simonrvn | gryfel: try a little more specific |
| 09:07.26 | simonrvn | thank you |
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| 09:07.32 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo: Do you want to install the proprietary ATI driver? |
| 09:08.32 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo: Try http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary if so |
| 09:09.30 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo: And this http://technowizah.com/2006/10/debian-how-to-ati-drivers.html |
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| 09:10.12 | wAndyw78 | gryfel: And by the way, what is "expert mode" ? Did you install from DVD or netinst? Then i would expect, that this kernel was running fine |
| 09:10.15 | ma3x | can i somehow change the dpi of firefox |
| 09:10.24 | gryfel | Now, it scrolled out of the window, 'cause I treid something else. I have to reboot first, but on my other console I see: kernel: Stack followed by 8 hexnumbers |
| 09:10.40 | gryfel | I've installed from dvd |
| 09:10.55 | gryfel | the first release |
| 09:11.12 | wAndyw78 | simonrvn: Can you figure out the problem? |
| 09:11.23 | simonrvn | sounds like a kernel oops |
| 09:11.25 | gryfel | and there's a kernel: Call Trace |
| 09:11.31 | simonrvn | yeh, an oops |
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| 09:12.03 | gryfel | kernel:Code ... I have to reboot to get the exact order of the messages what happend |
| 09:12.08 | simonrvn | gryfel: send that to LKML, using the BUGS in the kernel source tree as a guide on how to report it |
| 09:12.18 | X4T | q |
| 09:12.34 | simonrvn | gryfel: also check the BTS to see if it's been reported already in debian |
| 09:12.44 | simonrvn | X4T: wrong window ;) |
| 09:13.04 | X4T | simonrvn: right |
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| 09:13.33 | wAndyw78 | gryfel: You could also use a live CD and copy the Logfiles /var/log/syslog /messages |
| 09:13.44 | elnovatillo2 | linux-image-2.6.22-2-k7 is the best kernel for AMD ATHLON dual processor? |
| 09:13.56 | wAndyw78 | gryfel: and apply them to the bug report |
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| 09:14.08 | elnovatillo2 | linux-image-2.6.22-2-k7 is the best kernel for AMD ATHLON dual processor? i feel my computer very slow |
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| 09:14.33 | simonrvn | -smp |
| 09:14.51 | gryfel | wAndyw78: Ok, I'll do so |
| 09:15.03 | fireba11 | simonrvn : ther are no special smp kernels anymore starting with etch .. |
| 09:15.54 | elnovatillo2 | oh ok |
| 09:15.54 | wols_ | elnovatillo2: "slow" in what way? |
| 09:16.00 | fireba11 | elnovatillo2 : so all kernels are smp enabled |
| 09:16.14 | wols_ | fireba11: not quite. -486 isn't |
| 09:16.20 | elnovatillo2 | wols_: applications taking 2 seconds to open... |
| 09:16.36 | wols_ | elnovatillo2: not enough RAM? no BM-DMA? |
| 09:16.38 | elnovatillo2 | ah ok thanks, i guess thats the max i can get |
| 09:16.44 | elnovatillo2 | 2gb ram |
| 09:17.00 | fireba11 | wols_ : er .. i don't considder 486 a reasonable option for anything :-D |
| 09:17.13 | wAndyw78 | grep -i smp config-2.6.22-2-k7 gives me CONFIG_SMP=y |
| 09:17.17 | wols_ | fireba11: then you are mistaken. debian thinks it's just fine |
| 09:17.24 | Caelum | if I'm running gnome, is gnome-session supposed to be in my process list? |
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| 09:17.32 | wols_ | Caelum: yes |
| 09:17.52 | Caelum | wols_: it's not, and gnome went utterly insane on me, I guess that's why... |
| 09:17.53 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: So, in 2.6.22-2-k7 SMP is enabled by default |
| 09:18.07 | wols_ | Caelum: afaik gnome-session is the way to start gnome |
| 09:18.33 | elnovatillo2 | wols_: thanks , i guess i drunk to much coffe then |
| 09:18.37 | wols_ | so it might get stopped when gnome is loaded it only being a loader like startkde |
| 09:18.41 | simonrvn | fireba11: oh yeh that's right, they're all smp enabled now |
| 09:19.05 | wols_ | elnovatillo2: depends a bit on what prorgam you start. e.g. openoffice is always sluggish on startup imho |
| 09:19.22 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: "slow" is something subjective... try a benchmark |
| 09:19.43 | elnovatillo2 | anyone has a clue how to install ATI drivers on lenny? |
| 09:20.08 | wols_ | !tell elnovatillo2 about fglrx |
| 09:20.33 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: I'VE posted you the link TWICE |
| 09:21.07 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: Andy again: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 09:21.08 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: im sorry, i had 3 rebootings already.. probably i missed it... Thanks a lot |
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| 09:22.01 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: im guessing ONLY the propietary drivers supports 3D acceleration, right? |
| 09:22.03 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: Andy by the way, the debian wiki is good for HowTos... if you stick, come back |
| 09:22.36 | simonrvn | wAndyw78: lemme guess, client completing And to Andy |
| 09:22.48 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: I use nvidia, not ati but i guess you are right |
| 09:22.52 | simonrvn | or just {a,A}nd |
| 09:22.54 | wAndyw78 | simonrvn: Yes ;-) |
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| 09:23.20 | simonrvn | i was going like wtf. had to read both twice |
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| 09:23.31 | Haris | Hello people |
| 09:23.35 | simonrvn | hi |
| 09:23.38 | Haris | What's the logout script that run on etch out of the box? |
| 09:23.40 | wAndyw78 | simonrvn: I'm sorry for that... |
| 09:23.51 | simonrvn | wAndyw78: hehe, it's ok |
| 09:24.30 | Haris | Is there ANY script that's employed for logout? |
| 09:24.32 | simonrvn | Haris: eh? people like to stick in 'clear' (shell built-in) in logout rc file |
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| 09:25.18 | Haris | logout rc? |
| 09:25.33 | wAndyw78 | Haris: "exit" ? |
| 09:25.49 | Haris | wAndyw78: What about exit? |
| 09:26.15 | simonrvn | Haris: config file for your shell |
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| 09:26.26 | JohnFlux | Hey all |
| 09:26.28 | simonrvn | rc is just shorthand for configuration file |
| 09:26.35 | Haris | simonrvn: hm.. where would it be? |
| 09:26.40 | Haris | its not in /etc |
| 09:26.42 | simonrvn | ~/ |
| 09:26.43 | apt | ~/ is your home dir silly!, or root, of all Unix |
| 09:26.44 | JohnFlux | if I do sudo xclock I get the error that it cannot open display: |
| 09:26.52 | simonrvn | you create it if it doesn't exist |
| 09:26.56 | JohnFlux | how do I run sudo something and get it to keep whatever DISPLAY is ? |
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| 09:26.59 | wAndyw78 | Haris: What do you want to do? If you "exit" then the file .bash_logout is executed (in your home dir) |
| 09:27.07 | simonrvn | JohnFlux: yeh, don't run x apps as root |
| 09:27.17 | JohnFlux | simonrvn: i need to in this case :) |
| 09:27.51 | wols_ | JohnFlux: gksu sux kdesu |
| 09:28.00 | Haris | wAndyw78: I see |
| 09:28.08 | Haris | wAndyw78: I am looking for a system wide script |
| 09:28.16 | pflanze | Hello. Is there a way to automatically patch debian packages upon (security-)upgrades? i.e. I need a modification to be applied and don't want to remember having to do it manually. |
| 09:28.18 | JohnFlux | wols_: cant be done with just sudo? |
| 09:28.21 | Haris | ..and yes, right now, its just for clear on logout |
| 09:28.22 | simonrvn | JohnFlux: running xclock as root? whatever for? |
| 09:28.37 | simonrvn | *shrug*, i'm not over there |
| 09:28.41 | JohnFlux | simonrvn: i want to run another program, but xclock is good for testing |
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| 09:29.00 | simonrvn | what wols_ mentioned |
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| 09:29.30 | PyroMithrandir | JohnFlux, yeah, except only use one of them ;) |
| 09:29.36 | PyroMithrandir | like, kdesu xclock |
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| 09:33.12 | Aviel14 | hey |
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| 09:34.30 | wAndyw78 | pflanze: If you want that "patches" are applied without you assistance or even without your knowledge, try Windows XP |
| 09:34.49 | simonrvn | !wAndyw78++ |
| 09:34.53 | elnovatillo2 | or Mac OS |
| 09:34.58 | pflanze | thanks |
| 09:35.29 | wAndyw78 | pflanze: Sure, this is possible with debian, but I think you should not apply patches to source code automatically |
| 09:35.29 | pflanze | Note that it's *my* patches which should be applied. |
| 09:36.16 | pflanze | wAndyw78: how to do it? Are there locally configurable post-install hooks? |
| 09:36.19 | elnovatillo2 | cronjob + script? |
| 09:36.35 | wAndyw78 | pflanze: What do you want to do? |
| 09:36.36 | simonrvn | so, make a script |
| 09:36.41 | pflanze | cronjob is bad since it delays the patching to after the upgrade. |
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| 09:37.00 | pflanze | you know, all this automatic XP stuff.... |
| 09:37.13 | wAndyw78 | pflanze: you want to use aptitude to upgrade and then apply a patch? |
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| 09:37.24 | pflanze | yes |
| 09:37.24 | simonrvn | *blink* |
| 09:37.28 | wAndyw78 | ? |
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| 09:37.47 | pflanze | actually I'm usually using apt directly. |
| 09:37.59 | pflanze | not aptitude. |
| 09:38.12 | Aviel14 | hey i need help |
| 09:38.16 | simonrvn | aptitude isn't a frontend to apt-get, it uses libapt. ... |
| 09:38.22 | pflanze | yeah ok. anyway. |
| 09:38.23 | simonrvn | !tell Aviel14 -about ask |
| 09:39.20 | simonrvn | wtf did people get that weird idea, anyway? who's been spreading bad info? |
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| 09:39.48 | munga | I've to migrate an i386 installation to amd64. My idea is to boot a 64 bits kernel with 32 bits userland binaries, then debootstrap a amd64 installation and reboot the 64 bits kernel with the new root... Is thi s gonna work ? in particular, I'm a bit uncertain about booting an amd64 kernel with a i386 architecture... |
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| 09:39.58 | elnovatillo2 | how to know what XORG version am i using? |
| 09:39.59 | Aviel14 | when i try to run some file its write: |
| 09:40.00 | Aviel14 | ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/david/cs/csfix.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. |
| 09:40.02 | wAndyw78 | Aviel14: Just ask, and do not expect, that we all have a crystal ball |
| 09:40.05 | simonrvn | X -version |
| 09:40.19 | simonrvn | Aviel14: oh, that |
| 09:40.57 | wols_ | munga: you can use a amd64 kernel with i386 just fine |
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| 09:41.02 | Aviel14 | ? |
| 09:41.31 | Aviel14 | help |
| 09:41.32 | Aviel14 | ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/david/cs/csfix.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. |
| 09:41.52 | simonrvn | !tell Aviel14 -about repeat |
| 09:42.08 | wAndyw78 | Aviel14: I guess: is the file /home/david.../csfix.so available? |
| 09:42.14 | Aviel14 | yup |
| 09:42.19 | drc | come on Aviel14, what file/program/script are you trying to run |
| 09:42.27 | simonrvn | Aviel14: exactly what it says. something is trying to load that file via LD_PRELOAD but it can't, so it's ignoring it |
| 09:42.55 | simonrvn | s/he's trying to run some static lib for his/her CS server |
| 09:42.56 | wAndyw78 | Aviel14: Ah, a cracked Counter Strike Port |
| 09:43.02 | Aviel14 | :P |
| 09:43.10 | Aviel14 | updatedb; locate csfix.so = |
| 09:43.30 | Aviel14 | \home\david\cs\csfix.so |
| 09:43.35 | wAndyw78 | Steamless CS Project ? |
| 09:43.42 | Aviel14 | what? |
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| 09:44.05 | simonrvn | er, *nix paths separators are / not \ |
| 09:44.23 | wols_ | Aviel14: what does "mount" soe for the /home branch? |
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| 09:44.44 | Aviel14 | what u mean? |
| 09:44.47 | wols_ | s/soe/say |
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| 09:45.01 | Aviel14 | how i check it? |
| 09:45.15 | wols_ | I told you: by running "mount" |
| 09:45.29 | Aviel14 | how i do thas? |
| 09:45.38 | wols_ | !tell Aviel14 about grounding |
| 09:46.04 | wAndyw78 | Aviel14: Are you running debian? Are you sitting in front of that PC? Or connected via a remote shell? |
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| 09:47.18 | Aviel14 | ssh |
| 09:47.33 | simonrvn | :P |
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| 09:48.19 | Cap_J_T_Kirk | Hi all, maybe someone else just asked.. is there problems with debian updates? |
| 09:48.40 | wAndyw78 | Cap_J_T_Kirk: sometimes... |
| 09:49.13 | wols_ | Cap_J_T_Kirk: be more vague |
| 09:49.22 | wAndyw78 | Cap_J_T_Kirk: sometimes my ADSL connection got lost, the i have problems with "aptitude update"... |
| 09:49.50 | simonrvn | Cap_J_T_Kirk: you mean sid and lenny updates? yes, you're not the only one |
| 09:50.15 | Cap_J_T_Kirk | simonrvn, yes sid updates. |
| 09:50.27 | Cap_J_T_Kirk | broken server? |
| 09:51.11 | wAndyw78 | Cap_J_T_Kirk: whats the problem? mirrors can go down... which server ftp.xx.debian.org ? |
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| 09:51.37 | simonrvn | Cap_J_T_Kirk: debian-devel-announce ML |
| 09:51.50 | Cap_J_T_Kirk | wAndyw78, I'm using ftp.de.debian.org.. |
| 09:52.03 | wAndyw78 | me wants simonrvn's crystal ball... |
| 09:52.16 | Cap_J_T_Kirk | simonrvn, link please? |
| 09:52.21 | simonrvn | it's called being half-asleep :P |
| 09:52.37 | simonrvn | lists.debian.org/ |
| 09:52.39 | wols_ | simonrvn: just call it "being in trance, telling higher truthts" |
| 09:52.42 | Cap_J_T_Kirk | thanks |
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| 09:52.54 | elnovatillo2 | lol |
| 09:52.58 | elnovatillo2 | how to create a simlink? |
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| 09:53.13 | wAndyw78 | elvedin: man ln |
| 09:53.19 | wAndyw78 | äh, sorry |
| 09:53.29 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: man ln .... "ln -s" |
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| 09:53.55 | cydork | wols_: they are calling it "troubles with harddiscs".. :) |
| 09:53.58 | simonrvn | symlink |
| 09:54.09 | simonrvn | it's short for symbolic link |
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| 09:54.44 | Cap_J_T_Kirk | cydork... troubles? HDs burned? |
| 09:55.01 | Cap_J_T_Kirk | :) |
| 09:55.28 | wAndyw78 | simonrvn: Yes, elnovatillo2 could also create a C program an use int symlink(const char *oldpath, const char *newpath); |
| 09:55.35 | elnovatillo2 | I've created /usr/src/linux symlink, but how the OS knows its there?? (im trying to install ATI drivers and its asking me kernel source files) |
| 09:55.45 | simonrvn | wAndyw78: ha! :) |
| 09:55.48 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 09:56.48 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: didn't you run "m-a prepare" ? |
| 09:56.48 | simonrvn | elnovatillo2: don't create that link, it's useless |
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| 09:57.31 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: not yet, ill run now |
| 09:57.38 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: wait |
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| 09:57.52 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: which howto are you following? |
| 09:57.54 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: waiting... |
| 09:58.02 | elnovatillo2 | http://technowizah.com/2006/10/debian-how-to-ati-drivers.html |
| 09:58.22 | cydork | Cap_J_T_Kirk: check the mailing lists.. |
| 09:58.59 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: and at which step are you? |
| 09:59.03 | rrk | i need some help with a wireless config -- sid 2.6.23 and b43 |
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| 09:59.57 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: "m-a prepare" |
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| 10:00.12 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: im at the first step, got the ATI driver installation file: which im trying to run now: sh ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run , but its asking me the kernel source files |
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| 10:00.25 | ertg | Hi! How can i give permission to a user to run a command with parameters without password from sudoers file? |
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| 10:01.40 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: "m-a prepare" |
| 10:02.08 | wAndyw78 | ertg: "NOPASSWD" |
| 10:02.10 | wols_ | ertg: we do NOT support that driver here. ask ati about it. we only support debian packages |
| 10:02.18 | wols_ | oops |
| 10:02.20 | wols_ | elnovatillo2: ^^ |
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| 10:03.04 | elnovatillo2 | :( |
| 10:03.06 | ertg | wAndyw78: the problem is that i want the user to run the command with every parameter. |
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| 10:03.35 | ertg | wols_: This is for a debootstrapped command, this is why i asked here. |
| 10:04.04 | ertg | My line looks like this now:www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/dchroot -c lenny '/usr/bin/nconvert |
| 10:04.15 | wols_ | ertg: mis-tabbed. sorry |
| 10:04.36 | ertg | wols_: ok, np :- ). |
| 10:04.52 | harpal | I have installed ntpdate to synchronize with time server but when I try to run ntpdate than it gives error ntpdate[2460]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| 10:05.14 | wols_ | harpal: how are you running it? full cmdline |
| 10:05.16 | rrk | add pool.ntp.org |
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| 10:05.58 | rrk | ntpupdae pool.ntp.orgt |
| 10:05.59 | harpal | I have just run ntpdate |
| 10:06.00 | simonrvn | debian.pool.ntp.org ;) |
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| 10:09.17 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: where it goes m-a prepare ? |
| 10:09.23 | harpal | I have done ntpdate debian.pool.ntp.org than its running but where can I set it. I have checked that /etc/default/ntpdate |
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| 10:10.21 | wols_ | !wayttd harpal |
| 10:10.21 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, harpal? |
| 10:10.52 | simonrvn | elnovatillo2: /usr/src |
| 10:10.54 | harpal | I want to synchronize my time to setver so I dont have to set time |
| 10:11.17 | wols_ | so do ntpdate pool.ntp.org as already soaid. done |
| 10:11.21 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: I expected you already have module-assistant. and the option prepare downloads the matching headers to your running kernel |
| 10:11.22 | elnovatillo2 | simonrvn: m-a prepare bash: m-a: command not found |
| 10:11.30 | elnovatillo2 | oh sorry, giong to insatll |
| 10:11.32 | rrk | any one know how to get rid of wmaster0 and force boot to config wlan0 instead? |
| 10:11.33 | wols_ | !tell elnovatillo2 about installit |
| 10:11.48 | wols_ | rrk: be more vague |
| 10:13.08 | harpal | wols_, done. that debian.pool.ntp.org not working. now every time I have to run this command to synchronize? |
| 10:13.09 | rrk | ok used b43 to install a wireless card card has worked on boot it keeps trying to configure wmaster0 which is an ap mode for the card which does not work |
| 10:13.11 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: do you haev any clue abuot the name of the debian package for module-assistant insatller? |
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| 10:13.31 | wols_ | harpal: cause it's WRONG. I told you the right one |
| 10:13.54 | harpal | ya thats working fine. thanks a lot |
| 10:14.04 | wols_ | rrk: what is "b43"? |
| 10:14.14 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: module-assistant |
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| 10:14.24 | wols_ | harpal: look into tpd |
| 10:14.27 | wols_ | *ntp |
| 10:14.33 | rrk | the update version of bcm4xx-fwcutter |
| 10:14.33 | wols_ | !tell harpal about ntp |
| 10:14.46 | rrk | bcm43xx |
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| 10:15.09 | wols_ | rrk: why an update? |
| 10:15.17 | harpal | same thing I am referring http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/25 |
| 10:15.22 | wols_ | e.g.is this progra from debian? |
| 10:15.24 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: i swear Kpackage cant find anything like module-assistant (debian lenny) |
| 10:15.25 | rrk | new kernel running 2.6.23 |
| 10:15.45 | wols_ | rrk: and? what has a new kernel to do with the firmware? |
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| 10:16.39 | wols_ | harpal: crap article |
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| 10:16.59 | wols_ | harpal: learn to read dates when something was written |
| 10:17.00 | rrk | it is the latest firmware extracting tool and it only runs with 22 and above or so i was told |
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| 10:17.20 | harpal | wols_, ok |
| 10:17.27 | wols_ | rrk: you didn't answer me. is it in debian? |
| 10:17.28 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: from console as root "apt-get update" and "apt-get install module-assistant" |
| 10:17.36 | rrk | yes |
| 10:17.43 | wols_ | !info b43 sid |
| 10:17.54 | wols_ | rrk: <dpkg> Package 'b43' does not exist. |
| 10:18.27 | wols_ | so is dpkg mistaken? |
| 10:18.31 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: thanks, damn i though kpackage was good... |
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| 10:19.08 | rrk | ok try b43-fwcutter |
| 10:19.18 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: installed? then try m-a prepare (m-a is an alias for module-assistant) |
| 10:19.36 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: yes its downloading now the headers and g++ stuff |
| 10:19.37 | rrk | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.50 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: fine :-) |
| 10:20.01 | wols_ | rrk: checked your interfaces? |
| 10:20.08 | rrk | yep |
| 10:20.17 | bolt | SAY MY NAME, BIATCH! |
| 10:20.23 | bolt | wtf |
| 10:20.30 | wols_ | bolt: do this elsewhere please |
| 10:20.33 | rrk | played all sorts of games |
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| 10:21.19 | rrk | on boot instead configuring wlan0 it keeps trying wmaster0 |
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| 10:21.24 | wAndyw78 | elnovatillo2: And try the second item --listpkg (You are running lenny? So it could be "lenny" or "testing") |
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| 10:21.50 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: yes im runnig lenny, ok ill do that |
| 10:21.56 | bolt | that's nice. now i gotta explain myself to 10 channels |
| 10:22.26 | rrk | i have manged to get a dhcp address a couple of times but nothing acroos a reboot |
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| 10:23.20 | rrk | i have nokia 800 and another laptop that both work (mabo and etch) |
| 10:23.54 | elnovatillo2 | wAndyw78: make: dh_testdir: Command not found make: *** [build] Error 127 dpkg-buildpackage: failure: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.A18736 |
| 10:24.14 | khaleel5000 | hello , i have debian etch (Stable rc0) and i have been trying to run my HP Deskjet 3420 printer, i selected its driver from the list of dirvers.When asked to print, it takes in the page, and pops out the same page BLANK (i checked my printer on m$ its workign fine there) |
| 10:24.16 | wols_ | !tell elnovatillo2 about b-e |
| 10:25.09 | elnovatillo2 | wols_: build-essential is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 10:26.39 | rrk | > |
| 10:26.42 | rrk | wAndyw78: make: dh_testdir: Command not found make: *** [build] Error 127 dpkg-buildpackage: failure: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 Removing temporary directory:fglrx-install.A18736 |
| 10:26.43 | rrk | <khaleel5000 |
| 10:26.56 | elnovatillo2 | wols_: resolved : The following NEW packages will be installed: debhelper dh-make html2text intltool-debian po-debconf |
| 10:28.00 | rrk | khaleel500 you tried it form cups locaqlhost:631 will get you the cups print server web page |
| 10:28.30 | rrk | localhost:631 in a browser |
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| 10:29.02 | khaleel5000 | rrk: ok thanks , will RTFM |
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| 10:33.20 | rmaj | hello |
| 10:33.47 | rmaj | what was the syntax in visudo to allow user rmaj to call /etc/init.d/apache2 with any argument, without giving any password |
| 10:33.49 | colder | anyone use epic4 client? |
| 10:34.26 | SPIBAVEL | i have a network share with write permissions, but i am still getting permission denied |
| 10:34.36 | elnovatillo2 | ok wish me luck.... rebooting.... seems all went fine |
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| 10:40.14 | wAndyw78 | SPIBAVEL: only few of us have a working crystal ball. A "network share" could be smb, nts .... be more specific |
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| 10:40.37 | wAndyw78 | s/nts/nfs |
| 10:41.48 | SPIBAVEL | nfs |
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| 10:42.30 | wAndyw78 | then you have to set the permissions... |
| 10:42.41 | SPIBAVEL | how? |
| 10:42.48 | SPIBAVEL | on the host server? |
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| 10:43.49 | wAndyw78 | SPIBAVEL: are you familiar with chmod, chown ? |
| 10:44.01 | SPIBAVEL | yesb |
| 10:44.09 | SPIBAVEL | but do i need to make it writable to all? |
| 10:44.12 | wAndyw78 | SPIBAVEL: yes, on the Host server |
| 10:44.25 | wAndyw78 | no, only to the user or group you want |
| 10:44.46 | SPIBAVEL | the original problem is that users are not "shared" or w/e |
| 10:44.53 | SPIBAVEL | cause it was set to root |
| 10:45.29 | lou_gr | I'm experiencing problems with the debian's gspca module. What should I do? |
| 10:45.34 | X4T | SPIBAVEL: i want to throw in root_squashing |
| 10:45.45 | SPIBAVEL | huh? |
| 10:45.50 | wAndyw78 | SPIBAVEL: you could create a group "SHAREUSER" and add user to them |
| 10:46.03 | wAndyw78 | SPIBAVEL: and let this group own the directory |
| 10:46.27 | SPIBAVEL | nvm ill make it writeable by all |
| 10:46.46 | lou_gr | the webcam is disconnected after some seconds... |
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| 10:48.55 | SPIBAVEL | thanks all |
| 10:48.55 | SPIBAVEL | bye |
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| 10:51.42 | clamiax | Do i need the apt-utils package in order to update on lenny? |
| 10:52.23 | clamiax | Or can i just do a (dist-)upgrade? |
| 10:52.55 | lou_gr | any help pl |
| 10:52.57 | lou_gr | z |
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| 10:53.03 | rmaj_ | wow debian security upgrades proken our production server, cool |
| 10:53.07 | rmaj_ | broken. |
| 10:53.27 | clamiax | champagne |
| 10:55.08 | Appiah | no you did rmaj_ ^^ |
| 10:55.56 | rmaj_ | Appiah: Im not admin. admin upgraded security and site broken |
| 10:56.31 | Appiah | well then he did |
| 10:56.34 | Appiah | or she |
| 10:56.39 | rmaj_ | oh, exacly aptitude upgrade |
| 10:56.45 | rmaj_ | removed php5 curl apparently |
| 10:56.52 | rmaj_ | from what I hear |
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| 10:58.12 | rmaj_ | I guess next time someone should read REMOVE line of upgrade more carefully also ;) |
| 10:58.31 | troubled | rmaj_: ? |
| 10:58.41 | rmaj_ | can I select that I do not never ever given packages to be removed under no condition? |
| 10:59.17 | troubled | rmaj_: you could put it on hold |
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| 11:00.11 | andre | can some debian (nautilus/glib) packager please take a look at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440988#c14 ? most of the duplicates come from debian. thanks |
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| 11:05.50 | elnovatillo | steelgunner@xman:~$ glxinfo| grep OpenGL OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1300 / X1550 Series OpenGL version string: 2.0.6958 Release OpenGL extensions: Question: WHY i have no extensions loaded? |
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| 11:08.12 | Sisco | is cisco asa 5505 ipv6 ready? |
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| 11:13.45 | elnovatillo | Why i acnt install VLC player in debian lenny?? |
| 11:14.14 | streuner | because it isnt in lenny? |
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| 11:14.28 | Geoff-- | anyone know why installing winbind breaks samba authentication from BDC/member to PDC? |
| 11:14.31 | streuner | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 11:14.31 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
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| 11:15.00 | elnovatillo | godammit |
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| 11:15.02 | streuner | use something else |
| 11:15.09 | streuner | xine-ui or mplayer |
| 11:15.21 | elnovatillo | ok, il try xine |
| 11:15.24 | streuner | !info xine-ui lenny |
| 11:15.29 | dpkg | xine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.5+cvs20070914-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 1509 kB, Installed size: 3596 kB |
| 11:15.30 | elnovatillo | noatun = teh suck |
| 11:16.02 | streuner | if you really want vlc, just /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 11:17.02 | elnovatillo | oh ok, thanks |
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| 11:21.02 | elnovatillo | kde 4 is already available in Lenny? |
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| 11:21.48 | bind_prob | hi |
| 11:22.12 | bind_prob | Wonder how I do when I want to reinstall bind so I get the cfg files ......??? |
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| 11:22.42 | cydork | !tell bind_prob -about confmiss |
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| 11:23.16 | elnovatillo | !kde4 |
| 11:23.59 | cydork | elnovatillo: kde 4 is not even released yet. |
| 11:24.10 | elnovatillo | oh dammit... |
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| 11:27.07 | Geoff-- | anyone know how to stop samba from using winbind? |
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| 11:27.42 | CyberMad | how to schedulle wget to start 2 hour again? |
| 11:28.09 | plundra | CyberMad: at? sleep? crontab? |
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| 11:28.45 | CyberMad | err.. confuse |
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| 11:30.08 | narma | hello, how can I get installed package list which depend of another one package ? |
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| 11:32.02 | bind_prob | strange ...... |
| 11:32.55 | bind_prob | when I ... locate named.conf ... I get /etc/bind/named.conf .... but when I ls (in /etc/bind ) I don't see named.conf |
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| 11:33.35 | cydork | bind_prob: run updatedb and run locate again. |
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| 11:36.52 | ringo999 | hi. i'm looking for a software that supports functional testing (manage test cases/scripts, results etc.) Any recommendations? |
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| 11:38.04 | Caelum | ringo999: probably something for the specific language that you're using |
| 11:38.15 | Caelum | ringo999: there's lots of great stuff for Perl |
| 11:39.52 | bind_prob | Solved that thing ... (with spooky files .. ) still struggling with this aptitude reinstall bind9 to get the default cfg files in /etc/bind ... hmmm... (system: Debian Etch) |
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| 11:41.06 | Caelum | bind_prob: if you want the default files, do a dpkg --purge then install it again |
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| 11:41.25 | cydork | bind_prob: did you read what dpkg told you? |
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| 11:44.24 | ringo999 | Caelum: i think you understood me wrong. Functional / Black Box testing - testing the functionality of an application in a non automatic way without the knowledge of it's code etc. |
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| 11:45.03 | misreckoning | I have accidentally run alsaconf as a superuser and now alsa behaves stangely, is there some dpkg-reconfigure or similar that can fix the "strange" feeling I have :) ? |
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| 11:46.20 | Caelum | ringo999: is it a command line application? a web application? what kind of output? |
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| 11:46.39 | Caelum | misreckoning: define strangely |
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| 11:47.49 | bind_prob | When the subject is up ... difference in dpkg... apt-get .. aptitude ... apt-get and aptitude is just a interface for dpkg ??? and aptitude have some GUI .. I have heard that you should not use apt-get for a while and then aptitude etc ... Is that missunderstanding ... Back to this bind9 ... testing that --purge to see what happens ... |
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| 11:49.01 | Caelum | ringo999: if it's a command line application, I'd use perl modules like Test::More and such. If it's a web application, then WWW::Selenium or WWW::Mechanize |
| 11:49.18 | wols_ | bind_prob: you should not use aptitude and then apt-get (at least not etch apt-get |
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| 11:49.39 | ringo999 | Caelum: its webbased but also involved external hardware. I'm not that good with perl... |
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| 11:51.04 | misreckoning | Caelum: well I had some problems with "muting" the sound, but now seems to work well |
| 11:51.28 | misreckoning | anyway, the second thing, nm-applet always asks me for a root password when I start gnome |
| 11:51.39 | Caelum | misreckoning: ehh yeah, it's some sort of alsa default... alsamixer to fix that, then sudo alsactl store to store the settings |
| 11:51.40 | ringo999 | Caelum: some of the tests involve manual steps like "put the egg in the pan" |
| 11:51.40 | bind_prob | ok .. that was I have also heard ...( read) .... that purge thing seems to fix the problem/(noobe thing) for me ... |
| 11:52.00 | tarzeau | does debian have the r-packages mclust and ade4? (i couldn't find them) |
| 11:52.07 | ringo999 | Caelum: so im just looking for something to manage test scipts |
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| 11:52.33 | misreckoning | I've checked, I belong to netdev group, only I can think of is to set SUID but that is bad, right :P |
| 11:53.32 | Caelum | ringo999: well, you have to write the test scripts in something, and there's no shell script equivalent to mech or selenium |
| 11:53.42 | Caelum | ringo999: there's also Silk but that's some sort of commercial thing |
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| 11:57.34 | Geoff-- | how do I stop winbind from screwing up samba? member server running winbind won't share directories to the network |
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| 12:00.03 | Oct | Hello there |
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| 12:00.33 | Oct | I'm having some problem with snmpd not working well on a vanilla etch |
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| 12:01.03 | Oct | specifically, i'm unable to query the disk occupation values from snmpwalk |
| 12:01.17 | Oct | anyone had that kind of issue ? |
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| 12:02.52 | elnovatillo | Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "4.1.3", while you are trying to use "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.2.3". This configuration is not recommended and VMware Workstation may crash if you'll continue. |
| 12:02.55 | elnovatillo | HELP!! |
| 12:03.10 | wols_ | elnovatillo: only solution is to use the correct gcc |
| 12:03.25 | wols_ | or better yet: stop running non released software you have no clue about |
| 12:03.48 | elnovatillo | wols_: is posible to install gcc 4.1.3 over 4.2.3 ? |
| 12:04.01 | wols_ | no need to do that |
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| 12:04.55 | Caelum | elnovatillo: you can have multiple versions of gcc in Debian, just install the package you want and check your /usr/bin/gcc symlink |
| 12:05.08 | elnovatillo | Caelum: thanks ill |
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| 12:05.36 | \amethyst | or use CC=gcc-4.1 in the makefile |
| 12:06.12 | paulo | hello. I want to migrate a complete running debian etch system from a server to another (new hardware). I am wondering how to do so in a clean way. So far the new server is running a virgin debian etch. Do you think a raw rsync of the root "/" from the old to the new would work properly, provided I take special care of "fstab" ? |
| 12:06.19 | misreckoning | is there some interesting Open hardware - I have to pick a topic for a seminar :) |
| 12:06.56 | Terminus | paulo: i've had no problems grabbing a hard drive and stuffing it into a new box at all. |
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| 12:07.10 | Terminus | misreckoning: radeon? =D |
| 12:07.25 | paulo | Terminus: thank you, but I have to physical access to the hardware |
| 12:07.26 | wols_ | paulo: dd old disk to new disk, reinstall grub, done |
| 12:07.40 | petemc | urgh, dd |
| 12:07.45 | misreckoning | Terminus: lol, no, I thought of something like OpenSPARC .. |
| 12:07.49 | wols_ | petemc: what's wrong with dd? |
| 12:07.52 | misreckoning | bu less complicated |
| 12:07.58 | misreckoning | %s/bu/but |
| 12:08.01 | Terminus | paulo: i've also replicated hard drives with a simple cp -a |
| 12:08.07 | petemc | wols_: if the disks arent the exact same size, how do you think that would work? |
| 12:08.23 | Terminus | misreckoning: the power arch? |
| 12:08.26 | wols_ | petemc: fine. gparted/resize2fs to the rescue |
| 12:08.32 | petemc | why do that, tho? |
| 12:08.38 | paulo | wols_: as said, I can not as I have no physical access |
| 12:08.39 | Geoff-- | how do I stop winbind from screwing up samba? member server running winbind won't share directories to the network |
| 12:08.56 | wols_ | paulo: what has physical access to do with it? |
| 12:09.07 | \amethyst | paulo: I take it you also don't have a management console? |
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| 12:09.19 | paulo | wols_: How to dd through network ? It is the only link between boxes. |
| 12:09.37 | wols_ | paulo: everything in unix is a file. even harddisks |
| 12:09.43 | paulo | \amethyst: I do have a busybox |
| 12:09.50 | wols_ | or rather: partitions |
| 12:10.06 | Terminus | wols_: hard disk size mismatch kills dd |
| 12:10.13 | petemc | it doesnt kill it |
| 12:10.16 | bind_prob | Sumary : If you just med deleted some cfg files .. just run ..aptitude/apt-get/dpkg.. remove [package] first .. then dpkg --purge [package] and then your favorite installer aptitude/apt-get/dpkg install [package] in my case [package] was bind9 |
| 12:10.21 | petemc | it would work, but its a silly way to do it |
| 12:10.21 | Spida | does anybody know how to fix crashes on insertion of misdns hfcpci-module? |
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| 12:10.41 | wols_ | Terminus: the only thing killing it is read or write errors (even that can be avoided but then the copy is not 1:1) |
| 12:10.46 | petemc | dd is very much a blunt instrument |
| 12:11.17 | Terminus | wols_: i'd rather do fdisk + mkfs and then just copy the files over. chroot to install grub, done. |
| 12:11.39 | wols_ | what about symlinks or hardlinks? |
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| 12:11.46 | \amethyst | wols_: what about them? |
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| 12:12.10 | wols_ | does cp -a honor them properly? |
| 12:12.12 | \amethyst | wols_: yes |
| 12:12.21 | paulo | wols_: as far as symbolics symlinks are concerned, I see no problem |
| 12:12.26 | \amethyst | wols_: cp -a even seems to copy extended attributes, which I wasn't expecting |
| 12:12.40 | wols_ | amphi: what about sockets? |
| 12:12.43 | \amethyst | cp -a handles hardlinks too (it looks at inode numbers) |
| 12:12.48 | wols_ | \amethyst: |
| 12:12.51 | Terminus | wols_: think of cp -a as tar without the tarball. |
| 12:13.17 | \amethyst | cp -a is better than tar |
| 12:13.27 | \amethyst | tar doesn't handle extended attributes at all, AFAICT |
| 12:13.54 | Terminus | \amethyst: true. i always use cp -a if it's just hd to hd. |
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| 12:14.02 | clamiax | Does the "nvidia" drivers works on lenny? |
| 12:14.25 | wols_ | clamiax: if you know how to backport: yes |
| 12:14.34 | \amethyst | wols_: Just tested a dir with ACLs, containing a FIFO, a socket, a file, a hard link to the file, and a symlink |
| 12:14.42 | \amethyst | wols_: cp -a duplicates it perfectly |
| 12:15.04 | Terminus | \amethyst: wait, extended attributes? i only know chmod ugo and the sticky flags. |
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| 12:15.13 | clamiax | wols_: ah, okay. THX |
| 12:15.22 | \amethyst | Terminus: access control lists and the like |
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| 12:15.43 | \amethyst | Terminus: man setfattr setfacl |
| 12:15.45 | misreckoning | is there some tool which can show me the voltage and temperatures of my motherboard and processor? I guess it is somewhere in /proc or ... ? |
| 12:16.30 | \amethyst | misreckoning: sensors |
| 12:16.39 | Terminus | \amethyst: oh... advanced fs stuff. never had to deal with those. i don't use ACLs. |
| 12:16.49 | \amethyst | misreckoning: from the package lm-sensors |
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| 12:18.27 | paulo | \amethyst: as I said, I'm planning using rsync rather than cp -a because : 1- rsync has built-in network transparency; 2- it can delete file on the target if they do not exist in the source. Rsync does have a -a option that looks very much like cp -a option. My real concern is that the rsync target will be a running system, and I fear a crash. |
| 12:18.32 | misreckoning | \amethyst: thanks pal |
| 12:18.58 | \amethyst | paulo: I think your concerns are warranted |
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| 12:19.29 | \amethyst | paulo: I would recommend booting the destination machine off some other medium or partition, mounting the partition to be copied to, and rsyncing that way |
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| 12:20.06 | \amethyst | paulo: hence my question about a management console |
| 12:20.34 | paulo | \amethyst: I do have a busybox capable of mouting partitions |
| 12:20.54 | petemc | rsync -avP 4tw |
| 12:20.55 | paulo | but I doubt it has an ssh server (required for rsync) |
| 12:21.02 | \amethyst | paulo: does it have an ssh client? |
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| 12:21.09 | \amethyst | paulo: you can do rsync in the other direction |
| 12:21.27 | paulo | \amethyst: that's true, thanks :) |
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| 12:21.35 | paulo | let's have a look ... |
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| 12:22.50 | paulo | \amethyst: yes it does |
| 12:22.51 | \amethyst | paulo: another problem is that the machine you're copying from is probably not completely quiescent |
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| 12:23.41 | \amethyst | paulo: meaning you might, for example, copy a database image while it's being written to and get the tables out of sync |
| 12:24.08 | paulo | \amethyst: yes, I was planning to stop as many services as possible |
| 12:24.22 | \amethyst | paulo: does the source machine have to be booted? |
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| 12:24.45 | \amethyst | paulo: if it's shut down and mounted from somewhere else, that will minimize problems |
| 12:24.54 | paulo | \amethyst: actually, I can probably mount partition without booting it. |
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| 12:25.16 | \amethyst | paulo: that would be ideal---that way both the source and the target are quiescent |
| 12:25.18 | paulo | \amethyst: yes. Thank you a lot for your help |
| 12:25.51 | paulo | I think I will do that with both mounted from busybox |
| 12:26.03 | \amethyst | paulo: also |
| 12:26.59 | \amethyst | paulo: you probably don't want to copy /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 12:27.25 | \amethyst | paulo: if they're both etch right now, you'd want to keep the target machine's current version |
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| 12:28.10 | \amethyst | paulo: otherwise when it boots for the first time, it will think it got a new ethernet card and change the ethX label |
| 12:28.54 | \amethyst | paulo: likewise, you have to be careful with fstab, but you already mentioned that |
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| 12:29.40 | paulo | \amethyst: ok, thank you a lot for this type of tips. I came to #debian in the hope to be warn on this type of things :) |
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| 12:40.00 | clamiax2 | Hey, does the dist-upgrade for lenny removes the old etch packages? |
| 12:40.17 | streuner | sure |
| 12:40.18 | cydork | clamiax2: yes |
| 12:40.25 | clamiax2 | cool |
| 12:40.38 | streuner | if they are avaiable in lenny, if not the old packages "keep" alive... |
| 12:40.49 | clamiax2 | So can i say to have a "clean lenny system"? :) |
| 12:41.07 | wols_ | clamiax2: meaningless |
| 12:41.12 | streuner | !tell clamiax2 about sid faq |
| 12:41.15 | streuner | read that too |
| 12:41.15 | clamiax2 | mmh |
| 12:41.50 | clamiax2 | streuner: yes, i'll try to get a list of old etch packages in order to remove them. THX |
| 12:42.38 | wols_ | when you remove them what will you use instead? |
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| 12:43.33 | clamiax2 | wols_: the latest version compiled from sources |
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| 12:44.03 | wols_ | have fun supporting yourself then, cause #debian certainly won't |
| 12:44.46 | misreckoning | lm-sensors requires k8temp module, I added it in /etc/modules but is it included with kernel 2.6.18 ? |
| 12:44.50 | clamiax2 | wols_: why don't you be friendly? |
| 12:45.10 | clamiax2 | wols_: i'm able to support myself. THX |
| 12:45.14 | wols_ | nothing to do with "friendly" |
| 12:45.14 | misreckoning | I think it is not, and the newer (lenny) kernel 2.6.22 isn't working on my pc :P |
| 12:45.24 | misreckoning | which is another problem I would like to solve :) |
| 12:45.27 | wols_ | no you are not able as your questions clearly show :( |
| 12:45.36 | \amethyst | clamiax2: maybe aptitude search '~Aetch~i' to find all installed package versions from etch |
| 12:45.42 | clamiax2 | wols_: ok |
| 12:45.51 | wols_ | misreckoning: find /lib/modules k8temp* |
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| 12:46.12 | clamiax2 | \amethyst: yes, i'm playing with it. THK |
| 12:46.16 | clamiax2 | *THX |
| 12:46.27 | cydork | !thx |
| 12:46.27 | dpkg | THX (R), the next generation surround sound, developed by a George Lucas company. (mplayer is not certified), or just say "Thanks" |
| 12:46.40 | \amethyst | clamiax2: err, sorry |
| 12:46.54 | clamiax2 | cydork: wtf(1) |
| 12:46.54 | \amethyst | clamiax2: aptitude search '~S~Aexperimental~i' |
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| 12:47.43 | clamiax | \amethyst: no etch packages here, as far as i can see. Good :( |
| 12:47.47 | clamiax | :) |
| 12:48.09 | \amethyst | clamiax: and I meant etch not experimental, but you probably figured that out |
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| 12:48.24 | clamiax | \amethyst: sure |
| 12:48.26 | \amethyst | clamiax: IIRC you have to have etch in your sources.list for that to work |
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| 12:48.39 | misreckoning | wols_: it is there, thanks |
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| 12:48.58 | clamiax | \amethyst: ah, that's why i don't get any package then! |
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| 12:49.04 | quitte | hi. i'm having trouble with the amd64 etch installer in qemu. at the language selection it doesn't accept any keyboard input |
| 12:49.16 | clamiax | \amethyst: i'm solving the problem. |
| 12:49.45 | misreckoning | I have dist-ugpraded to lenny from (very stable) etch and I have to use the old kernel, because when I boot with the new one, after just couple of lines, the whole system stops at something saying "NET 2 blabla" ... can you give me some advices on how to troubleshoot this thing ? |
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| 12:50.29 | \amethyst | clamiax: I guess you could do aptitude search '~S!~Atesting~i' to find all installed packages that aren't at their current testing version |
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| 12:53.05 | mikearthur | how do I tell apt-get to reinstall default configs if I've removed the old ones? |
| 12:53.23 | \amethyst | !confmiss |
| 12:53.24 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 12:54.08 | Hoxzer | how can I find out the block size of the HDD ? |
| 12:54.34 | SlayerXP | Hoxzer: perhaps you mean the block size of the filesystem? |
| 12:55.04 | Hoxzer | yeah yeah :) |
| 12:55.08 | Hoxzer | e2fsprogs :O |
| 12:55.54 | SlayerXP | Hoxzer: dumpe2fs -h /dev/sda1 |
| 12:55.59 | Hoxzer | :) yep yep |
| 12:56.12 | mike1o | im trying to install a driver, it seems as though the genksyms script is missing in 2.6.22, but could be available in .23... but I can't install .23's headers package because kbuild23 is not available... |
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| 13:00.45 | Impiety | is this the debian help channel or is there another channel for that |
| 13:01.01 | Ronin | Impiety: well the name is #debian |
| 13:01.14 | Impiety | yes |
| 13:01.15 | Impiety | it is |
| 13:01.19 | Raxito | no it isnt |
| 13:01.28 | Impiety | but i was asking if there was another channel specifically for help |
| 13:01.40 | Raxito | no there isnt another channel for help |
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| 13:02.42 | Impiety | what's the easist way to determine the debian version you ahve |
| 13:02.46 | Chr1570ph3r | [A] Netsplit detected between "..ALIVEscript and www.alivescript.com.br |
| 13:02.48 | Impiety | like version number |
| 13:02.56 | clamiax | wtf feh is not on lenny? |
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| 13:03.08 | Ronin | Impiety: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 13:03.15 | Ronin | !why is feh not in lenny |
| 13:03.16 | dpkg | Ronin: what are you talking about? |
| 13:03.21 | Impiety | it doesn't show a version number, but it says lenny |
| 13:03.21 | Raxito | Impiety, uname? |
| 13:03.26 | Impiety | oh yeah |
| 13:03.27 | clamiax | Ronin: -.- |
| 13:03.30 | \amethyst | !why is feh not in testing |
| 13:03.30 | dpkg | feh is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=feh |
| 13:03.36 | Ronin | ahh |
| 13:03.40 | Ronin | keep forgetting that |
| 13:03.44 | Raxito | what the hell is a feh |
| 13:03.54 | clamiax | good. THX Ronin |
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| 13:04.27 | Ronin | Raxito: feh - imlib2 based image viewer |
| 13:04.28 | Impiety | what's the latest debian kernel version |
| 13:04.30 | Impiety | released |
| 13:04.38 | stew | Impiety: 2.6.18-5 |
| 13:04.42 | Raxito | man thats old |
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| 13:04.50 | Raxito | they are on like 2.6.23 now |
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| 13:05.02 | ebw | hello |
| 13:05.07 | Raxito | goodbye |
| 13:05.10 | ebw | which is better to use smbfs or fusesmb ? |
| 13:05.24 | stew | Raxito: it was relatively new when the current stable was frozen. there are newer kernels for stable on backports.org: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 13:05.34 | Raxito | ah k |
| 13:05.55 | stew | ebw: smbfs should only be used for very old versions of windows, you should be using cifs instead |
| 13:06.04 | \amethyst | cifs is in package smbfs though |
| 13:06.27 | ronr | is it possible to use xargs and have the STDIN somewhere in the middle? what I want to do is something like: find . -type f | grep -e jpg$ | xargs convert <match line by grep> -geometry 100x100 <matched line by grep>_new.jpg |
| 13:06.55 | phogg | ebw: avoid fuse if you can |
| 13:07.12 | petemc | ronr: find . -type f | grep -e jpg$ |while read ; do convert.. ; done |
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| 13:07.34 | spq | find . -type f -name '*jpg' -exec convert {} -geometry 100x100\; |
| 13:07.44 | phogg | ronr: use a loop for that |
| 13:08.47 | spq | why a loop?? |
| 13:08.47 | \amethyst | ronr: convert doesn't take a list of files, so xargs isn't the right tool |
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| 13:09.10 | \amethyst | if you want to rewrite the second {} you'll need a loop |
| 13:09.26 | phogg | spq: find -exec wont work when you are naming into a new file name for each result |
| 13:09.27 | \amethyst | other than just appending some text, that is |
| 13:09.47 | phogg | yeah, what \amethyst said |
| 13:09.49 | spq | ah, missed the last part |
| 13:09.56 | ronr | spq: yours will simply replace all current jpg's with the resized jpgs? |
| 13:10.04 | \amethyst | you could do find . -type f -name '*jpg' -exec convert {} -geometry 100x100 {}.new.jpg \; but then the files will be names foo.jpg.new.jpg |
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| 13:10.40 | \amethyst | convert needs two arguments, I think, so it would probably just be an error |
| 13:10.43 | ronr | thanks! it looks like find has anything I need |
| 13:10.56 | stew | ronr: find -type f -name \*jpg | xargs -I '{}' convert '{}' -geometry '{}'_new.jpg |
| 13:11.27 | \amethyst | stew: I don't think convert will take a list of arguments |
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| 13:13.00 | \amethyst | and even if that worked, xargs screws up spaces without -0 (and then you need -print0 on find) |
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| 13:13.35 | stew | \amethyst: -I sets the input delimiter to single lines |
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| 13:14.09 | phogg | ronr: find whatever | while read line ; do convert "$line" "${line%.*}_new.jpg" ; done |
| 13:14.29 | stew | \amethyst: echo "a b c\n d" | xargs -I '{}' echo foo '{}' bar |
| 13:15.03 | phogg | stew echo -e |
| 13:15.28 | stew | phogg: that line does what i want without -e |
| 13:15.33 | \amethyst | stew: ah, -I does more than I thought it did |
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| 13:16.03 | \amethyst | stew: so it only gets confused by newlines and by leading spaced |
| 13:16.07 | \amethyst | s/d$/s/ |
| 13:16.22 | \amethyst | which one hopes not to have in one's files |
| 13:16.35 | \amethyst | s/s$/name&/ |
| 13:16.43 | phogg | stew: hm, very interesting |
| 13:16.50 | stew | \amethyst: no, afaik that would handle leading spaces too. but yes, newlines in filenames would still cause a problem |
| 13:17.03 | stew | and in either case you deserve to get screwed with :) |
| 13:17.08 | \amethyst | stew: xargs -I explicitly strips leading spaces |
| 13:17.14 | stew | oh, lok |
| 13:17.19 | stew | ok |
| 13:17.48 | \amethyst | stew: just looked it up in POSIX, and the coreutils version seems to work the same way |
| 13:17.56 | stew | yeah, i guess my examples even demonstartes that :)_ |
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| 13:18.22 | \amethyst | stew: what shell do you use, btw, that echo "foo\nbar" prints two lines? |
| 13:18.27 | phogg | stew: without -e I get "foo a b cn d bar" as a result. Is that really what you wanted? |
| 13:18.47 | sam__ | is this a known problem in etch? The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 13:18.47 | sam__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.24 | phogg | sam__: so install libfuse2 as well |
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| 13:20.18 | \amethyst | stew: or do you have xpg_echo set ? |
| 13:20.25 | stew | phogg: no, you should have gotten a newline in there. did you use single quotes or double quotes? |
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| 13:20.45 | sam__ | phogg, i already did the version in the repo is too old 2.5.3-4 as i indicated above |
| 13:20.50 | \amethyst | stew: in bash echo, backslash sequences aren't interpreted by default |
| 13:21.00 | \amethyst | stew: unless you use -e, or have the xpg_echo shopt set |
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| 13:22.08 | raggi | which package would give me /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/build? |
| 13:22.54 | \amethyst | raggi: linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686 |
| 13:22.56 | ebw | Why is mount.nfs setuid? If I do dpkg-reconfigure nfs-common, there is no possibility to switch that off. How do I switch that off in a debian way (so I don't have to switch it off each time nfs-common gets upgraded)? |
| 13:23.08 | raggi | \amethyst: hmm, i have that installed |
| 13:23.15 | stew | \amethyst: oh, it is probably zsh putting interpreting it for me |
| 13:23.30 | stew | err, zsh interpretting the \n as newline and substituting for me |
| 13:23.34 | \amethyst | stew: zsh's echo is probably closer to XSI |
| 13:23.42 | raggi | \amethyst: thanks, actually, my bad, i have -486 headers :-/ |
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| 13:24.11 | \amethyst | stew: Posix says the behaviour of backslashes in arguments to echo is implementation-defined |
| 13:24.40 | raggi | that sounds like an odd exception to an otherwise sturdy rule? |
| 13:24.49 | stew | so '/bin/echo -e' for more portability, i guess |
| 13:25.20 | \amethyst | stew: portability to gnu systems, maybe |
| 13:25.32 | \amethyst | stew: printf is the portable way to print strings :) |
| 13:25.39 | \amethyst | printf(1) that is |
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| 13:27.18 | stew | well hopefully nobody needs my example to be portable :) |
| 13:27.23 | \amethyst | XSI and System V echo interpret backslashes and don't support -e or -n. BSD echo doesn't interpret backslashes, and does support -n. -e is fairly new, probably GNU |
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| 13:30.22 | krassy | My brand new installed debian eth don`t recognize my NIC which is Realtek RTL8211B chip and audio too. What i have to do to resolve the problem ? |
| 13:30.41 | krassy | "etch" sorry |
| 13:30.54 | tarzeau | krassy: install a newer kernel? |
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| 13:31.01 | tarzeau | krassy: or install a different NIC |
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| 13:34.09 | krassy | tarzeau:No other options? ( modules or something else) |
| 13:36.21 | tarzeau | krassy: i don't think so |
| 13:38.52 | krassy | tarzeau:i have to compile new kernel becouse now i am with 2.6.18-5 (i think latest debian linux image for etch) RIGHT ? |
| 13:39.35 | tarzeau | krassy: have a look at kernel-package (pkg), and the make-kpkg command |
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| 13:42.18 | sparr_ | how can i put my monitor into power saving mode and start my screensaver, immediately and intentionally? |
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| 13:45.47 | nepbabu | for space between file names, how does xargs work then for find? ' find -name "*.jpg" | xargs rm ' doesn't work. |
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| 13:46.48 | jelly | sparr_: for the first, xset dpms force off. the second part, if you use xscreensaver, man xscreensaver-command |
| 13:47.04 | cast | nepbabu: man xargs |
| 13:47.06 | stew | nepbabu: use: find -name "*.jpg" -print0 | xargs -0 rm |
| 13:47.11 | nepbabu | yeah got that |
| 13:47.28 | stew | nepbabu: that will change the input delimeter from space to NUL |
| 13:47.34 | nepbabu | stew yes. |
| 13:47.37 | nepbabu | :) |
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| 13:49.39 | rance | I need some help uninstalling exim from debian etch stable, I run my mta with a custom set of patches and so it compiled from source, Ive already downloaded the equivs package and have the mta_local package ready to install, but can't uninstall exim4-daemon-light |
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| 13:56.30 | ringo999 | i need print from debian via network. what is the best way to get started? |
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| 13:57.19 | Ecnerifed | could someone do me a fav quick pls |
| 13:57.57 | rance | ringo999: are the remote printers on a linux host, or a windows host? |
| 13:57.58 | cast | i have alias lpr='ssh printhost lpr', works for me :) |
| 13:57.58 | harpal | I want to take whole output of ./configure and make and then make install. how to do that? |
| 13:58.03 | Ecnerifed | just ping war3.co.za and tell me the ip address of that domain pls, it seems my countrys inet is fucked and i cant even ping google.com |
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| 13:58.13 | Ecnerifed | thank you |
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| 13:58.21 | cast | war3.co.za has address 196.38.180.96 |
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| 13:58.55 | ringo999 | rance: its a network printer. i dont really understand your question? |
| 13:59.00 | Ecnerifed | thanks cast: could u maybe give me googles ip too? :P |
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| 13:59.29 | stew | rance: which mta are you using? |
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| 13:59.37 | cast | 64.233.187.99 |
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| 14:00.02 | rance | stew im using qmail, but I figured it out, I was using the --force option to dpkg incorrectly, I finally found the right man page to help me |
| 14:00.06 | Ecnerifed | thanks |
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| 14:00.32 | Ecnerifed | omg, i cant even ping ips |
| 14:00.33 | Ecnerifed | :/ |
| 14:01.03 | stew | rance: you shouldn't be using --force-anything. can you use the qmail-src package in non-free and patch that? |
| 14:02.01 | rance | I could I guess but im so used to just downloading qmail and patching it I didnt even think to check non-free to see if it was there |
| 14:02.55 | rance | I know I can take the startup scripts out of rc.d/* to keep exim from starting, but it doesnt need to be installed at all |
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| 14:03.19 | stew | rance: no, in fact it better not be installed. |
| 14:03.22 | ringo999 | rance: so what did you mean by your question about linux host / windows host? |
| 14:03.26 | harpal | I want to take whole output of ./configure and make and then make install. how to do that? |
| 14:03.41 | Renfie|d | How do I get a list of files owned by a particular package? |
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| 14:03.53 | stew | Renfie|d: dpkg -L packagename |
| 14:04.01 | Renfie|d | stew Thanks. |
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| 14:04.35 | stew | harpal: (./configure && make && make install) > /some/file ; or use script (man script) |
| 14:04.49 | rance | ringo999: I use cups to manage printservers on linux printserver hosts, then on a print client, I install the cups-client package, and in /etc/cups I add a client.conf file with a ServerName directive telling the cups client software to look at a different server |
| 14:05.00 | stew | harpal: or instead of "> /some/file", you might want "| tee /some/file" (man tee) |
| 14:05.18 | rance | to print to a network shared printer on a windows host, you need to install the full cups with samba and then setup the printer to connect to that |
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| 14:05.28 | ringo999 | rance: i think the printer is directly connect to the router, im not sure though, let me check |
| 14:06.10 | harpal | stew, thanks a lot |
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| 14:06.30 | b52laptop | hi |
| 14:07.19 | b52laptop | OUT OF TOPIC QUESTION: plz ppl do you know a university that offer e-learning course in embedded engineering and embedded systems? |
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| 14:08.14 | cico | I am doing aptitude dist-upgrade, but lots of package downloads are failing due to timeout, with the browser however I am able to download. Is there a way to increase the time out period? |
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| 14:10.51 | Airbottle | ok, for some or another reason my firefox started eating all my memory today, i have > 90% use of my memory and > 40% of my swap, and it still rises |
| 14:11.02 | Airbottle | if i quit firefox it starts again |
| 14:11.24 | Airbottle | firefox occupies now 733.6 mb of my ram |
| 14:11.29 | clamiax | Can you suggest me a light replacement for feh? I need it *only* to set the X11 wallpaper and see some image, sometimes. |
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| 14:11.50 | Airbottle | 742.6 mb now |
| 14:12.13 | ktwilight | Airbottle, javascript leaking? |
| 14:12.21 | ktwilight | or flash |
| 14:12.37 | Airbottle | how can i check that? or solve in the best case |
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| 14:12.50 | ktwilight | no idea, just try to figure out which site is the culprit |
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| 14:15.34 | Airbottle | i closed some firefoxes and its solved now |
| 14:15.46 | Airbottle | i thought it would be something wrong with my OS |
| 14:15.56 | brutesquad | Hi I'm trying to install java 1.4 on my machine but cant find the right packages. I tried gcj but ran into swing compatability problems with it. Ive heard of something called blackdown, but is there a way to get suns implementation of 1.4? The repositories I have onlu list v5, 6 |
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| 14:17.08 | fireba11 | brutesquad : you can just download and extract a sun version and set a path to it |
| 14:17.35 | ringo999 | rance: never mind, i got it working ;-) |
| 14:18.53 | brutesquad | fireball : I only saw .rpms and another self installer from sun. Will installing something likethat outside of apt cause any trouble with any dependecies or anything within apt? |
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| 14:19.26 | \amethyst | brutesquad: why do you want 1.4 exactly? |
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| 14:20.16 | brutesquad | \amethyst: compat problems with v5, 6 on the app im running |
| 14:20.23 | junix|work | i ma having some trouble getting extended desktop working with my ATI Radeon 2400 Pro any suggestions? |
| 14:20.39 | \amethyst | brutesquad: java-package can probably build a package from the Sun installer |
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| 14:21.02 | \amethyst | brutesquad: in fact the package description says it supports Sun's 1.4, so that's definitely the way to go |
| 14:21.40 | brutesquad | \amethyst: ok, I'm not aware of java-package, but I'll google it. Thanks for the help guys |
| 14:21.42 | \amethyst | brutesquad: or, if you can't get Sun's version, I'm sure you can find Blackdown's or IBM's |
| 14:21.46 | \amethyst | brutesquad: it's a debian package |
| 14:21.58 | Steven_elvisda | everyone ever heard about tcl? |
| 14:22.24 | \amethyst | brutesquad: make-jpkg from the package java-package builds Debian packages out of Java distributions. |
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| 14:22.43 | brutesquad | \amethyst: ah excelent, sounds like that should do what i need |
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| 14:23.50 | Steven_elvisda | !tell Steven_elvisda ctl |
| 14:24.38 | Steven_elvisda | !tell Steven_elvisda libctl.so |
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| 14:26.52 | AnyFile | How do I enable (load configuration) of iptables? There is no more a script iptables in /etc/init.d as I was used to see in previous version of debian |
| 14:27.17 | cydork | !iptables |
| 14:27.18 | dpkg | methinks iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: <masq>, or try #iptables for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450 |
| 14:27.51 | stew | AnyFile: use iptables-save to save the configuration and call iptables-restore from a pre-up line in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:27.56 | cydork | AnyFile: check the last link, or feel free to write your own script wich does that. |
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| 14:29.31 | AnyFile | But iptables-restore add new configuration or replace the previous one? |
| 14:29.57 | junix|work | i ma having some trouble getting extended desktop working with my ATI Radeon 2400 Pro any suggestions? |
| 14:29.59 | TurboBee | hey why does my /etc/rc.local not execute my command /usr/bin/syndaemon -d -t -i 2 -K |
| 14:30.28 | stew | AnyFile: either, (man iptables-restore) |
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| 14:30.49 | mikefoo | if I have "delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1" in my postfix "mailq" How can I force the mail to be resent? I tried postfix flush, anything else? |
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| 14:32.02 | stew | AnyFile: you can load the entire iptables configuration when lo is brought up if you wish |
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| 14:32.57 | TurboBee | ? |
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| 14:35.16 | btrack | I wanna buy a laptop to install linux. |
| 14:35.44 | TurboBee | ccan someone help me with me rc.local |
| 14:35.45 | btrack | but confused with the hardware compatibility ... |
| 14:35.55 | ebw | btrack: So are many ... |
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| 14:36.40 | btrack | what laptop linux supports most? |
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| 14:37.07 | ebw | btrack: Select your favorite model, try to get a list of: motherboard chipset, wlan card, network card, graphics card ..... and check for each one if it is supported by linux. |
| 14:37.15 | ebw | btrack: What's the purpose? |
| 14:37.33 | btrack | Study ... |
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| 14:38.57 | btrack | study linux .... |
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| 14:39.09 | btrack | I used to be a windows users |
| 14:39.10 | ebw | btrack: So no games, no fancy graphics and such is needed? Only browsing the internet and typing for studying? Than take an old ibm laptop from ebay, be sure that an ac-adapter is included, as the batteries will surely be broken. You only need to spend a few hundred dollars this way and not thousends ... |
| 14:39.24 | sam__ | btrack you could look for people who sell linux pre-installed and buy a similar system |
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| 14:40.21 | btrack | :) |
| 14:40.36 | misreckoning | I tried to load the k8temp module, but it didn't worked... I found that I have k8temp.ko in my modules folder, and I do have it in /etc/modules but when I try modprobe or when I restart the computer, sensors isn't working! |
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| 14:42.10 | misreckoning | any ideas why? |
| 14:42.28 | misreckoning | maybe it is 2.6.22 only ... |
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| 14:45.29 | rubymonk | Hello everyone :) A few days ago, someone told me that apt-get source kernel-image..... followed by a dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot would build a dozen of kernels... Is it true ? This sounds strange... why a dozen of kernel ? for each arch ? |
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| 14:48.41 | \amethyst | rubymonk: indeed |
| 14:49.09 | rubymonk | Well... how ? I can build kernels for all archs with my small x86 ? |
| 14:50.13 | \amethyst | rubymonk: not all archs, all binary packages for your arch |
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| 14:50.24 | \amethyst | rubymonk: so -486, -686, -k7, and so on |
| 14:50.32 | rubymonk | hum, ok, I got it |
| 14:50.36 | rubymonk | Well, thanks :) |
| 14:50.47 | \amethyst | rubymonk: and headers, binaries, etc. for each of those |
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| 14:54.18 | Daemon | trying to do a net install for debian etch on a dell poweredge 1950 and keeps downloading the software then hanging, any idea's? |
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| 14:54.49 | Nom- | Is anyone familiar with the tcpserver program (ucspi-tcp package), and more specifically, of any alternatives to it... i've encountered some major bugs with it (all version) that I need to work around :/ |
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| 14:59.28 | nieuw | oh well |
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| 15:01.32 | axscode | hi, how are partition and slices are labled in /dev in debian? |
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| 15:03.56 | mike1o | if I install debian and use as my target hd a usb stick, will the stick boot my newly installed debian system? |
| 15:04.00 | rubymonk | http://www.roadandtravel.com/automotive/roadhumor/1943transportation.aspx :) |
| 15:04.34 | et | mike1o: if your bios supports booting from the usb stick ... |
| 15:04.42 | mike1o | ok |
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| 15:06.26 | ManuP | how do i route EVERYTHING through a tun0 interface? i tried with route add '*' tun0 |
| 15:06.42 | Daemon | if the debian setup see's the hard drive, does that mean i dont need to load the drivers? |
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| 15:08.10 | nkuttler | hm, how do i process a complete mbox with procmail? do have to split it? |
| 15:08.23 | petemc | nkuttler: formail |
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| 15:08.59 | petemc | Daemon: the debian installer does a pretty good job of detecting everything you need |
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| 15:09.11 | Daemon | cant be that why its hanging then |
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| 15:09.28 | petemc | Daemon: hanging where? |
| 15:09.56 | Daemon | ok it downloads the software then sits there on 18% whenere its supposed to install it |
| 15:10.12 | nkuttler | petemc: ah, right! thanks |
| 15:10.20 | petemc | theres a factoid about that, tho i think it usually stops at 5% |
| 15:10.27 | \amethyst | nkuttler: man procmail and search for "postprocess'; it includes a script to do locking and run formail on it |
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| 15:10.49 | Daemon | petemc - probably depends on how much your downloading? |
| 15:10.59 | Daemon | where do i get the resolution then please? |
| 15:11.03 | petemc | Daemon: you can use alt f4 to swtich to a terminal which should have logging |
| 15:11.41 | Daemon | petemc - ok i'll try that |
| 15:11.45 | ManuP | how do i route EVERYTHING through a tun0 interface? |
| 15:11.54 | Daemon | thanks |
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| 15:12.47 | axscode | hi, how are partition and slices are labled in /dev in debian? |
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| 15:13.24 | petemc | axscode: /dev/hd* /dev/sd* , mostly |
| 15:14.06 | et | it's nice to use udev to give them meaningful names, though |
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| 15:14.47 | Terminus- | axscode: no slices in debian, just partitions. |
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| 15:14.52 | lambda | hi |
| 15:14.59 | lambda | I am stuck with a kernel compil |
| 15:15.10 | _yannick | If I want to use apt-get and want to compile from source, I would do: "apt-get source packagename" and then: "apt-get -b source packagename", what if I want to add some parameters I usually do when compiling from source [for example: mysql --with-pthread] |
| 15:16.07 | lambda | I don't know how redirecting the result of 'make menuconfig' in a file for debugging |
| 15:16.17 | lambda | someboy knows? |
| 15:16.24 | petemc | !tell _yannick about source |
| 15:16.40 | AnyFile | I remeber there is a graphical interphaces to handle printing documents that allow you to print more than one page on every sheets of paper. But I do not remember the name of the packages (lost in the crash of the hard disk) |
| 15:16.45 | petemc | lambda: what kind of debugging? |
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| 15:17.02 | lambda | in fact make menuconfig|less doesn't work petemc |
| 15:17.08 | petemc | lambda: make menuconfig generates a file called .config |
| 15:17.14 | petemc | no, it wouldnt |
| 15:17.26 | petemc | you dont pipe a curse interface through less |
| 15:17.29 | lambda | it reports an error before |
| 15:17.30 | petemc | curses |
| 15:17.50 | petemc | aptitude install libncurses5-dev is probably what you want |
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| 15:18.00 | petemc | tho its hard to say as you dont say what the error is |
| 15:18.03 | lambda | I guess :) |
| 15:18.41 | lambda | I I would like doing it by my own |
| 15:18.46 | petemc | it? |
| 15:19.20 | _yannick | i just installed debian |
| 15:19.30 | _yannick | there are a lot of core-utils missing |
| 15:19.31 | _yannick | gcc,make |
| 15:19.40 | petemc | !b-e _yannick |
| 15:19.40 | dpkg | _yannick: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 15:19.40 | _yannick | is there some way to apt-get them all at once? |
| 15:19.48 | lambda | petemc: it works thx |
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| 15:22.06 | AnyFile | What X-login-manager can I use on a ligh computer. I curently use kdm but it required a lot of libraries. xdm do not allow me to shutdown/reboot the system |
| 15:22.43 | et | add a sudo line for shutdown and reboot ;) |
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| 15:23.42 | rubymonk | Did anyone think about having something like freebsd's or openbsd's ports tree on debian ? |
| 15:23.42 | edistar | hello, can someone help me, my apt-get update doesn't work anymore |
| 15:23.49 | Zippy2 | dont you haveto link grub or something to the xdm/kdm/gdm |
| 15:24.22 | Daemon | petemc - ok i selected no packages to be installed this time, so it just said 2 files to download which according to the terminal were security updates. Its downloaded them and just hung.... no error |
| 15:24.24 | petemc | rubymonk: you can download debian source packages and build them suited to your needs very easily with the existing package management tools |
| 15:24.48 | rubymonk | petemc, Well, true, but you'd have to handle dependencies manually, right ? |
| 15:24.51 | edistar | I su - to root and typed "apt-get update" but it tells me it can't lock? |
| 15:24.52 | petemc | Daemon: i think the error is something to do with keys for the mirrors |
| 15:25.03 | petemc | rubymonk: no, thats handled for you |
| 15:25.04 | Daemon | i selected no mirrors |
| 15:25.15 | rubymonk | petemc, Ok, then I missed it |
| 15:25.16 | petemc | well, the security mirror then |
| 15:25.20 | rubymonk | petemc, Thanks |
| 15:25.48 | Daemon | petemc - ok so how can i get debian on the server? what have i got to do? |
| 15:25.55 | petemc | Daemon: the bot has a factoid about this problem, its a known issues, i cant recall how to invoke it thi |
| 15:25.58 | petemc | tho |
| 15:26.12 | Daemon | doh |
| 15:26.15 | Daemon | debhelper |
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| 15:26.31 | petemc | dpkg |
| 15:26.39 | Daemon | debhelper - help |
| 15:26.44 | petemc | what? |
| 15:27.03 | petemc | the bot you get factoids from is dpkg, debhelp manages the channel |
| 15:27.14 | Daemon | ahh sorry not been here before |
| 15:27.20 | Daemon | !dpkg |
| 15:27.20 | dpkg | hmm... dpkg is the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". also ask me about <apt howto> |
| 15:27.33 | Daemon | !hanging |
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| 15:27.55 | Daemon | !install problems |
| 15:27.56 | petemc | dont do that |
| 15:28.07 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.13 | Daemon | ahh right |
| 15:28.28 | petemc | ive been searching in a query window, but havent turned anything up yet |
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| 15:31.39 | ezguy | hi have to identical installation on two systems and i can changed the user ulimit file-max size (nofile) by changing the /etc/security/limits.conf file but on the other system. any ideas what may be the problem? |
| 15:32.33 | ezguy | i have two identical... |
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| 15:36.17 | LesleyB | hi |
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| 15:37.26 | edistar | hi |
| 15:37.59 | _yannick | !dpkg services |
| 15:38.04 | Daemon | petemc - it seems that problem your referring to was solved in r1 but im already using that so i think this is a different problem, because that hangs on 5% and mine hangs on 18% |
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| 15:38.22 | petemc | Daemon: ah, right |
| 15:38.26 | CalJohn_ | I want to do nfs, and currently have no idea how it works. How much will using a custom kernel interfere with my doing nfs? Is nfs mainly in the kernel? Will i still be able to do it the debian way? |
| 15:38.36 | _yannick | !dpkg init.d |
| 15:39.01 | Daemon | there must be someone here that knows? if no one here knows im screwed |
| 15:39.11 | SpeedyG | !tell _yannick about msg the bot |
| 15:39.18 | wiedenmann | I read an install guide for lua terminal for gnuplot. I should add "LIBS = -lm -llua |
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| 15:39.42 | wiedenmann | I read an install guide for lua terminal for gnuplot. I should add "LIBS = -lm -llua" to Makefile but can only find Makefile.in and Makefile.am, where should I add it? I got gnuplot source via apt-get source gnuplot |
| 15:39.56 | petemc | Daemon: theres no information on the logging terminal? |
| 15:40.21 | Daemon | no, the last thing just shows it getting a security update |
| 15:41.02 | Daemon | enoffice.org-l10n-en-gb 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch2 to be exact |
| 15:41.09 | Sheogorath | ÇA COMPILE !!! \o/ |
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| 15:41.39 | petemc | Daemon: it wouldnt try to download openoffice if you selected no packages |
| 15:41.40 | Eulex | Sheogorath, \p/ |
| 15:41.44 | Eulex | *\o/ |
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| 15:42.09 | Daemon | i swear i unticked all the box's, there was only one enabled and that was default system or something |
| 15:42.19 | Daemon | but i unticked that as well |
| 15:42.26 | Sheogorath | Eulex: Sorry, AMSG on french server, just advice my happyness about C/Unix hardware compilation. x) |
| 15:42.30 | petemc | try one more time, skip tasksel entirely |
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| 15:42.47 | Daemon | u mean remove everything again? |
| 15:42.52 | petemc | right |
| 15:42.55 | Eulex | Sheogorath, you're compling hardware? :P |
| 15:43.10 | Daemon | tell u what, when i get there i'll give you a shout and tell u what options i have...... |
| 15:43.18 | Sheogorath | Eulex: No, I compiling hardware scheduler. x) |
| 15:43.22 | petemc | im about to go to the pub |
| 15:43.27 | Eulex | Sheogorath, oh |
| 15:43.30 | Daemon | just a thought, this is a brand new server and reasonably powerful, could it not be debian doesnt support it? |
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| 15:43.43 | petemc | Daemon: theres plenty of smarter people than me in this channel, im sure someone will help |
| 15:44.02 | Daemon | no one's jumping lol |
| 15:44.10 | Daemon | but thanks petemc :) |
| 15:44.15 | petemc | np, good luck |
| 15:44.21 | Daemon | :) |
| 15:44.50 | Daemon | anyone else here who knows their shit? |
| 15:44.58 | LesleyB | !tell lesleyb about msg the bot |
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| 15:46.49 | Eulex | Daemon, it could be that etch has a too old kernel to support your sata chipset. or networking card. |
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| 15:47.16 | Eulex | Daemon, but what's your problem? |
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| 15:47.54 | Daemon | thanks..... Eulex - basically im trying to install etch onto my new dell poweredge 1950 server...... |
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| 15:48.13 | Daemon | during the installation it asks me what packages i want to select..... so i select none..... |
| 15:48.18 | Eulex | Daemon, how long into the installation does it make? |
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| 15:48.24 | Eulex | ... it. |
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| 15:48.36 | Daemon | well it downloads 2 updates and then hangs |
| 15:48.41 | Daemon | the updates are security updates |
| 15:48.54 | Daemon | always hangs on 18% just after its downloaded them |
| 15:49.00 | azeem | 18% of what? |
| 15:49.13 | Eulex | azeem, define 'hang' |
| 15:49.38 | Daemon | ok 18% of downloading and installing packages and hang means, just sits there and does nothing |
| 15:49.57 | Eulex | checked the other ttys? |
| 15:50.10 | Daemon | says its downloaidng them and gives you the countdown and which files of how many its downloading, lights on the router are flashing then once downloading it doesn install them |
| 15:50.24 | Daemon | sorry im a n00b ttys ? |
| 15:50.30 | azeem | alt+f2 |
| 15:50.31 | azeem | alt+f3 |
| 15:50.37 | Eulex | tty = linux text console |
| 15:50.55 | Eulex | you switch between them as azeem described, alt-fn where n is the number of the tty |
| 15:50.56 | Daemon | i did alt+4 and it showed me the downloads but nothing else |
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| 15:51.12 | Daemon | shall i do it again and look in f2 and f3? |
| 15:51.22 | azeem | f3 might be interesting |
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| 15:51.37 | azeem | also you could run "ps aux" on f2 if that works, and see what processes are running |
| 15:51.39 | _yannick | how to add a system service |
| 15:51.43 | wiedenmann | When calling dpkg-buildpackage, how are the Makefiles generated? I dont know about automake. There is Makefile.am and Makefile.in in the directory. |
| 15:51.44 | _yannick | rc-update does not work |
| 15:51.46 | Daemon | ok pleae give me a few mins to get there |
| 15:51.49 | azeem | _yannick: update-rc.d |
| 15:51.52 | _yannick | is that not avaible for debian |
| 15:52.07 | azeem | wiedenmann: ./configure creates them usually |
| 15:52.44 | wiedenmann | azeem: does it create Makefile from Makefile.am or Makefile.in? I assume from M*.in |
| 15:52.59 | nepbabu | wiedenmann, yes from Makefile.in |
| 15:53.11 | azeem | indeed |
| 15:53.19 | wiedenmann | thank you! |
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| 15:54.13 | nepbabu | yw :) |
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| 15:56.11 | ronr | anyone here any experience with asterisk packakge on debian, the o'reilly book advises to compile it yourself, any advice on this would be appreciated |
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| 15:56.45 | Daemon | its installing the base system now, wont be long azeem, Eulex |
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| 15:57.14 | Cryx | heya! anyone know how i can get my file which is packed inside 40 rar files ? (using only terminal) |
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| 15:57.26 | Eulex | !unrar |
| 15:57.26 | dpkg | [unrar] a non-free package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about <unrar-free> |
| 15:57.58 | Eulex | ronr, try using the debian package if possible. |
| 15:58.14 | Daemon | ok guys, im there now, choose software to install, DNS server, sql database, Laptop and Standard System |
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| 15:58.24 | Cryx | Eulex that wasnt quite helpful info :/ |
| 15:58.36 | mne | hi, after upgrading i just got my debian sid system back up running. however, my left mouse button doesn't work anymore. it behaves like it is pressed down all the time |
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| 15:58.55 | Daemon | standard system is ticked by default but nothing else is, should i untick it or keep it ticked? cos ive tried both ways and they both hang on 18% |
| 15:58.58 | Eulex | Cryx, apt-get install unrar; man unrar |
| 15:59.03 | Daemon | just one downloads more stuff |
| 15:59.10 | azeem | then untick it |
| 15:59.16 | Daemon | ok |
| 16:00.13 | Daemon | download files 1 of 2, now 2 of 2 |
| 16:00.14 | Daemon | lights on router are going |
| 16:00.14 | Daemon | 18% and stopped dead |
| 16:00.14 | Cryx | Eulex i dont have unrar installed and apt gives me recommendation to other package when i try to install via apt-get |
| 16:00.14 | Daemon | alt f2 or alt f3 ? |
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| 16:00.22 | Eulex | Cryx, have you got non-free kernel sources? |
| 16:00.23 | azeem | Daemon: try f3 first |
| 16:00.28 | Eulex | eh |
| 16:00.33 | Eulex | *debian sources |
| 16:00.39 | Daemon | ok |
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| 16:00.57 | Daemon | pressed enter to activate console and have this....... |
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| 16:01.13 | Daemon | BusyBox v1.1.3 blah blah blah |
| 16:01.19 | azeem | and on f2? |
| 16:01.26 | Daemon | and just at a "~ #" prompt |
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| 16:01.36 | Daemon | same again |
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| 16:01.55 | azeem | Daemon: you pressed enter as well? |
| 16:01.59 | Eulex | !tell Cryx about non-free |
| 16:02.03 | Daemon | yes |
| 16:02.08 | azeem | what about f5? |
| 16:02.18 | Daemon | nothing happens |
| 16:02.43 | Daemon | nothing happens when i flick better f2 or f3, its the same busybox screen |
| 16:02.58 | Daemon | f4 shows me its downloaded some files |
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| 16:03.07 | azeem | hrm |
| 16:03.17 | azeem | Daemon: so try "ps aux" in f2 or f3 |
| 16:03.23 | Daemon | does it support dual core xeons? |
| 16:03.42 | Daemon | ok it shows me loads of things |
| 16:03.49 | Daemon | what am i looking for? |
| 16:03.59 | Eulex | Daemon, if it didn't, you wouldn't be able to boot it. |
| 16:04.02 | Daemon | too much to type by far cos it scrolled off the screen |
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| 16:04.31 | clamiax | Does anyone have problems with mplayer on lenny? |
| 16:04.35 | Daemon | Eulex - ok so its not cos ive got too much ram either then |
| 16:05.04 | azeem | Daemon: what does "free" say? |
| 16:05.06 | clamiax | I can't play any video at all |
| 16:05.29 | Daemon | azeem - you want the total used or free? |
| 16:05.36 | Daemon | mem swap or total? |
| 16:06.18 | Daemon | mem total = 906792, used 424024, free 482768 |
| 16:06.19 | azeem | Mem/free |
| 16:06.23 | azeem | ok |
| 16:06.34 | Daemon | thats supposed to be 4gig ram |
| 16:06.40 | Daemon | bios reports 4gig of ram |
| 16:06.45 | azeem | did you install amd64 or i386? |
| 16:06.56 | Daemon | i386 |
| 16:07.03 | Daemon | i386r1 |
| 16:07.06 | azeem | i386 doesn't support more than 1GB without hacks |
| 16:07.23 | azeem | you can install a 64bit kernel later on though |
| 16:07.23 | Eulex | Daemon, make sure you run a 686 kernel on i386, but you won't get more than 3.5gb anyway on i386 |
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| 16:07.39 | azeem | it's not an issue right now |
| 16:07.47 | Daemon | ok so what do i need to do? |
| 16:07.58 | azeem | Daemon: run ps ax again, and tell us the last program |
| 16:07.58 | Daemon | different installation? remove some ram? |
| 16:08.09 | azeem | unless it's "ps ax", in which case the second last |
| 16:08.18 | Daemon | ./usr/bin/perl |
| 16:08.38 | azeem | next? |
| 16:08.39 | Eulex | Daemon, your ram is not relevant to this installation problem. |
| 16:08.47 | Daemon | ok |
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| 16:08.54 | Daemon | ./bin/sh |
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| 16:09.04 | aaron | How do I set up my iBook's airport card? |
| 16:09.04 | Daemon | aptitude |
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| 16:09.08 | anilomkar | How to recover the data after formating a drive with mkdosfs... I formated the wrong drive.. please help me out.. |
| 16:09.19 | Nyle | aaron: #debianppc |
| 16:09.26 | nas | anyway to make my comptuer think the escape key has been pressed when i hit a mouse button? |
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| 16:09.37 | Daemon | azeem - are u needing the whole line or just the start of it? |
| 16:09.41 | aaron | Nyle: Nobody active in there... |
| 16:09.47 | Nyle | aaron: try oftc |
| 16:09.50 | Nyle | irc.oftc.net |
| 16:10.07 | Nyle | aaron: you may find some mac users here but over there is where you'd find all debian mac users |
| 16:10.21 | aaron | Nyle: Thank you, much appreciated. :-) |
| 16:10.26 | Nyle | yup |
| 16:10.28 | jelly | anilomkar: an irc channel is not a very good place to ask that question. there are commercial services specialized in data recovery, and there are also some applications. |
| 16:10.31 | Nyle | aaron: btw, searched google yet? |
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| 16:10.44 | azeem | Daemon: anything with 'Z' or '[ ]' around the process name? |
| 16:10.54 | jelly | anilomkar: how much is the data worth? |
| 16:11.10 | nas | i know that is kind of a strange request |
| 16:11.20 | junix|work | i ma having some trouble getting extended desktop working with my ATI Radeon 2400 Pro any suggestions? |
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| 16:12.01 | Daemon | azeem - usb-storage, scsi_eh_1 |
| 16:12.07 | JasonF | Is there a way to have aptitude ignore a gpg error on install automatically? We have a couple of self-rolled packages that I'm trying to script an install of. |
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| 16:12.25 | cico | I find a ##debian channel, what is that channel for? |
| 16:12.35 | Nyle | junix|work: a good starting point is intalling fglrx, with a clean one monitor xorg.conf setup, and then run aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=left |
| 16:12.38 | Nyle | or something like that |
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| 16:13.02 | abrotman | unofficial |
| 16:13.11 | azeem | Daemon: hrm, what's the last line exactly on f4? |
| 16:13.12 | abrotman | see http://freenode.net |
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| 16:13.16 | Daemon | azeem - usb-storage, scsi_eh_0, khubd, kswapd0, kseriod, kacpid, kblockd/0, kthread, khelper, events/0 ksoftirqd/0 |
| 16:13.25 | Nyle | junix|work: if you want to do it manually, you'll have to specify two device sections, two monitor sections, two screen sections, adjust your server layout and use ati option "desktopsetup" "horizontal" or whatever you wish |
| 16:13.28 | junix|work | aticonfig?? |
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| 16:14.14 | Daemon | azeem - well its changed now because ive done alt+f2 and f3, want the last line before i did that? |
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| 16:15.29 | azeem | ok |
| 16:15.39 | Daemon | azeem - Nov & 15:57:00 in-target: Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main enoffice.org-l10n-en-gb 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch2 |
| 16:16.13 | elenril | can anyone confirm that vlc is not installable on sid, because of broken dependencies? |
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| 16:16.44 | Ronin | !why is vlc not in unstable |
| 16:16.44 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, Ronin |
| 16:16.49 | Daemon | azeem - there's no way this can be related to me using the debian drivers for my sas drives rather than the dell ones? also could it have anything to do with running raid1? |
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| 16:16.51 | Ronin | fine be that way |
| 16:17.17 | abrotman | azeem: has ries returned yet? |
| 16:17.34 | azeem | no |
| 16:17.51 | azeem | Daemon: try dmesg |
| 16:17.56 | azeem | on f2/f3 |
| 16:18.01 | azeem | anything interesting on the last lines? |
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| 16:19.11 | Daemon | the last lines are /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt (cant see after that cos it goes off screen) |
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| 16:19.35 | Daemon | but its the same in alt f2 and alt f3 |
| 16:19.36 | azeem | why is the last line going off screen? |
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| 16:19.49 | Daemon | cos i cant adjust the monitor for some reason |
| 16:20.00 | Daemon | its not lined up right |
| 16:20.01 | azeem | so you see only one line of output from dmesg? |
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| 16:20.24 | Daemon | dmesg? |
| 16:20.31 | azeem | 17:14 < azeem> Daemon: try dmesg |
| 16:20.35 | azeem | 17:14 < azeem> on f2/f3 |
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| 16:20.48 | Daemon | whoooo loads of stuff |
| 16:20.51 | Daemon | what do u want? |
| 16:20.55 | azeem | 17:14 < azeem> anything interesting on the last lines? |
| 16:21.17 | Daemon | i see something a few lines up which is interesting |
| 16:21.54 | Daemon | a couple of times when ive loaded the debian cd, its loaded and the last thing that was said is "floppy0: no floppy controllers found" |
| 16:22.01 | Daemon | and hangs there |
| 16:22.26 | Daemon | rebooted and it loads the setup fine, i see that about 8 lines up on dmesg |
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| 16:22.59 | Daemon | there's no floppy drive on this server but in the bios i know the usb drive is selected to emulate one |
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| 16:23.05 | Daemon | however its not plugged in |
| 16:23.09 | azeem | what is the last line? |
| 16:23.26 | Daemon | QNX4 filesystem 0.2.3 registered |
| 16:23.34 | azeem | QNX? |
| 16:23.44 | Daemon | u got me |
| 16:23.47 | Daemon | no idea |
| 16:24.23 | Daemon | hang on found something a few lines up |
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| 16:25.24 | Daemon | program parted_server is using a depreciated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to S (then goes off screen and on a new line it says "IO") |
| 16:25.51 | azeem | that's probably back from when you were partitioning |
| 16:25.55 | Daemon | says that 4x on the screen |
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| 16:26.32 | Daemon | i just did the guided partition and did the simple thing put everyhting in one partition |
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| 16:31.55 | clamiax | Nobody use mplayer on lenny? |
| 16:32.37 | Ronin | clamiax: nope |
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| 16:34.43 | tarzeau | clamiax: why? |
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| 16:34.55 | tarzeau | i use it on etch and sid but a self built one that also can do mencoding |
| 16:35.09 | ferronica_ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43675/ |
| 16:35.18 | clamiax | tarzeau: because i can't play any video on lenny, anymore |
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| 16:35.39 | tarzeau | clamiax: what happens? error msg? effect? |
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| 16:35.56 | cico | clamiax: anything in tail /var/log/messages, dmesg | tail ? |
| 16:36.16 | ferronica_ | unable to remove applications from Add/Remove and synaptic manager (ubuntu 7.10 GNOME) :( |
| 16:36.18 | tarzeau | did your available file break? |
| 16:36.31 | tarzeau | !ubuntu |
| 16:36.31 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
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| 16:36.52 | b1n42y | ferronica_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43675/ |
| 16:37.18 | b1n42y | anyone help with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43675/ unable to uninstall packages |
| 16:37.36 | ferronica_ | bin42y: :) |
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| 16:38.01 | cico | b1n42y | ferronica_ : please go to #ubuntu |
| 16:38.14 | ferronica_ | bin42y: see. |
| 16:38.24 | b1n42y | its based on debian , and no one knows tehre |
| 16:38.30 | b1n42y | there* |
| 16:38.31 | Ronin | !based on |
| 16:38.31 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 16:38.52 | tarzeau | b1n42y: i told her, the file's probably broken, check the place or create a new one |
| 16:38.52 | b1n42y | spare me |
| 16:39.12 | clamiax | cico and tarzeau, i have nothing into the LOG files or dmesg. This is the output of mplayer: http://rafb.net/p/Eh9TN919.html . |
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| 16:39.37 | b1n42y | ya we are both newbz i tried to get her to reinstall xcursorgen but theres obviously more to it |
| 16:39.50 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 16:39.50 | dpkg | Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. Please don't bother telling us you're not a "newb", "noob" or "n00b" either. We can tell that too, you probably are, if you have to say you are not. |
| 16:39.57 | b1n42y | sigh |
| 16:40.11 | tarzeau | b1n42y: try remove the file or copy over the backup file, and then dselect |
| 16:40.19 | cico | ferronica_ is "she", the real name indicates "he" |
| 16:40.19 | tarzeau | bipolar: but since it's ubuntu, no support from #debian |
| 16:40.27 | tarzeau | s,bipolar,b1n42y, |
| 16:40.47 | b1n42y | tarzeau: thanks |
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| 16:41.08 | cico | Err http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages |
| 16:41.08 | cico | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.09 | b1n42y | ferronica_: copy advice goto ubuntu and get help with it |
| 16:41.16 | ferronica_ | bin42y: even installation no |
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| 16:41.48 | ferronica_ | bin42y: just tried to install CHM same error :( |
| 16:42.01 | b1n42y | you cant install either...oh so we didnt manage to reinstall xcursorgen |
| 16:42.03 | Ronin | ferronica_: #ubuntu is best for you as that's what youre running |
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| 16:42.35 | cico | ferronica_ : please talk about it in #ubuntu |
| 16:43.00 | b1n42y | yes yes we are all running a kernel lets not be racist..jesus you arent BIll gates ffs |
| 16:43.29 | clamiax | can be a problem related to the vesa drivers? |
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| 16:43.36 | Ronin | b1n42y: they arent running debian, they are running ubuntu there is #ubuntu |
| 16:43.57 | ferronica_ | bin42y: leave this channel, join #ubuntu |
| 16:43.59 | b1n42y | ferronica_: anywayz take tarzeau advice to ubuntu and figure out how to do what he said there |
| 16:44.02 | cico | b1n42y: discuss racism, jesus, bill gates in #defocus |
| 16:44.06 | Daemon | w00t its working |
| 16:44.24 | Daemon | azem |
| 16:44.28 | Daemon | its working |
| 16:44.31 | tarzeau | ferronica_: your availables file is broken |
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| 16:44.44 | tarzeau | ferronica_: it happens sometimes that harddisks act strange, i told you twice what to do |
| 16:44.46 | ferronica_ | bin42y: how to check |
| 16:44.58 | JordiGH | I think I've run afoul of #387449 in etch, but the proposed fix to change a regex didn't work for me. How can I see what aptitude is trying to download when it says "waiting for headers"? |
| 16:45.01 | ferronica_ | bin42y: you mean fsck |
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| 16:45.07 | b1n42y | the whole idea is to get people on linux and off winblows not to fight over how many people use which distribution.....enough said |
| 16:45.20 | tarzeau | b1n42y: no it's not |
| 16:45.24 | ferronica_ | tarzeau: fsck ? |
| 16:45.28 | JordiGH | b1n42y: And away from MacOSX too. ;-) |
| 16:45.32 | b1n42y | ;p |
| 16:45.46 | tarzeau | b1n42y: it's about free software, and freedom to choose whatever one wants |
| 16:45.46 | ferronica_ | tarzeau: ya right my HDD behaves strange yesterday |
| 16:45.58 | ferronica_ | tarzeau: system hangs |
| 16:45.59 | tarzeau | JordiGH: it's not that bad |
| 16:46.07 | JordiGH | tarzeau: It's non-free. |
| 16:46.09 | b1n42y | yes and telling us to f off because we are on ubuntu is wrong |
| 16:46.21 | tarzeau | JordiGH: so? it's the peoples' right to use it if they want so |
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| 16:46.33 | ferronica_ | tarzeau: how to correct it ? |
| 16:46.36 | tarzeau | JordiGH: that doesn't mean it can't do things better |
| 16:46.41 | JordiGH | tarzeau: And our duty as developers to make sure our software compiles on MacOS X too? |
| 16:46.43 | cico | b1n42y: the whole idea about this channel is to discuss #debian, nothing else. |
| 16:46.47 | tarzeau | ferronica_: i have told you several times, scroll back |
| 16:46.50 | \amethyst | b1n42y: And demanding that Debian users help you fix an Ubuntu system is wrong |
| 16:46.56 | tarzeau | JordiGH: that's up to the developer |
| 16:46.58 | haxality | hi, I was wondering how (if it's even possible) to install the drivers for the airport card in an imac G3/700 |
| 16:46.59 | Ronin | b1n42y: we're not fighting over waht they run, you're getting in a snit over us trying to get them to go to the channel that supports thier distro |
| 16:47.02 | b1n42y | im not demanding anything |
| 16:47.05 | b1n42y | peace |
| 16:47.28 | ferronica_ | tarzeau: i told her, the file's probably broken, check the place or create a new one |
| 16:47.30 | JordiGH | tarzeau: MacOSX is the same shit as Windows, rehashed with BSD code. |
| 16:47.36 | haxality | teehee |
| 16:47.44 | haxality | I love this channel because people are actually honest |
| 16:47.44 | tarzeau | JordiGH: i disagree, it's non-free yes. but it's not shit |
| 16:47.47 | JordiGH | tarzeau: Windows works most of the time too. Most of the people of the world vouch this. |
| 16:47.52 | haxality | at least as far as software design |
| 16:47.59 | haxality | :D |
| 16:48.01 | tarzeau | JordiGH: cocoa is a raped openstep API, i liked NeXT software better |
| 16:48.14 | haxality | tarzeau is quite correct about this |
| 16:48.22 | cico | tarzeau: MacOSX is beautiful but not as productive as Debian. |
| 16:48.30 | haxality | it's usually ignored in the face of the hordes of raving apple zealots |
| 16:48.43 | tarzeau | cico: productive is who gets to do what he likes and wants to do |
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| 16:48.56 | tarzeau | cico: i doubt your mom is more productive with linux |
| 16:49.05 | Daemon | anyone know why it would hang on boot at: sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi removeable disk sbd ? |
| 16:49.34 | haxality | so, back to my startlingly related question.. |
| 16:49.38 | JordiGH | tarzeau: The objective shouldn't be just to create a beautiful OS. It should be to make a free one too. |
| 16:49.46 | ferronica_ | bin42y: ? |
| 16:49.48 | haxality | is it possible to install the drivers for a built-in airport card on a G3 imac? |
| 16:49.51 | nepbabu | Daemon, remove your external disc and see how it goes |
| 16:50.03 | haxality | I've googled for about 20 minutes to no avail |
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| 16:50.16 | Daemon | nepbabu - i dont have one |
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| 16:50.25 | nepbabu | Daemon, press CTRL+C |
| 16:50.26 | tarzeau | JordiGH: did i ever claim something different? |
| 16:50.35 | b1n42y | ferronica_: (03:40:12) tarzeau: b1n42y: try remove the file or copy over the backup file, and then dselect |
| 16:50.46 | tarzeau | JordiGH: as i said, read the <title> of http://livecd.gnustep.org/ and you'll understand that i hate the look and optics of mac os x |
| 16:50.54 | tarzeau | JordiGH: and i hate apple for removing netinfo from 10.5 |
| 16:50.55 | cico | how can I add new information to dpkg. I want to add how to debug apt-get and aptitude using -o Debug::Acquire::http=true |
| 16:51.04 | tarzeau | JordiGH: and believe me, i absolutely hate gnome and kde |
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| 16:51.19 | Daemon | nepbabu - it doesnt do anything |
| 16:51.26 | JordiGH | tarzeau: An OS, above all, needs users. I guess I'm particularly miffed about some friends who defected from Debian to MaOS X because it looks enough like Unix to them. :-) |
| 16:51.30 | nepbabu | no idea |
| 16:51.36 | Daemon | ta :) |
| 16:51.39 | ferronica_ | bin42y: which file ??? |
| 16:51.44 | Daemon | i think i know whats wrong |
| 16:51.48 | haxality | sigh.. |
| 16:51.52 | nepbabu | what? |
| 16:51.56 | tarzeau | JordiGH: don't be miffed, fix what the reasons was for them to move |
| 16:51.56 | Daemon | debian installer doesnt support my hard drive |
| 16:52.08 | Daemon | even though it sees it it doesnt support it |
| 16:52.09 | tarzeau | JordiGH: and you still can be friends, if you want to |
| 16:52.10 | b1n42y | ferronica_: available |
| 16:52.21 | JordiGH | tarzeau: As long as we don't talk OS politics. ;-) |
| 16:52.23 | nepbabu | are you sure daemon? |
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| 16:52.35 | ferronica_ | bin42y: there are two files, which one to remove |
| 16:52.47 | ferronica_ | bin42y: available or avalable-old |
| 16:52.49 | b1n42y | ferronica_: same names ? |
| 16:52.54 | Daemon | nepbabu - no but im getting really pissed cos ive spent £1600 on this thing, its going out by courier tomorrow and i cant work it out :( |
| 16:52.58 | b1n42y | ok old is the backup |
| 16:53.11 | ferronica_ | bin42y: i think so |
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| 16:53.27 | ferronica_ | bin42y: should i remove available |
| 16:53.39 | nepbabu | Daemon, disk drive support are in kernel. Debian packages them up. i think look for your make in kernel list archive? ask in #kernel also |
| 16:53.52 | b1n42y | ferronica_: i would make a backup of available and available-old |
| 16:53.53 | ferronica_ | bin42y: and rename available-old = available |
| 16:54.01 | JordiGH | Gah, this is weird. apt-cacher works on all of my clients except one. |
| 16:54.10 | b1n42y | ferronica_: and then ya rename old to available |
| 16:54.13 | tarzeau | JordiGH: how many clients is that? |
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| 16:55.05 | b1n42y | ferronica_: just not sure what he meant by dselect |
| 16:55.07 | cico | !apt-get debug |
| 16:55.08 | dpkg | i heard apt-get debug is a wonderful option to debug what is going wrong with apt-get commands. whatever your aptitude or apt-get command is, just append "-o Debug::Acquire::http=true" without quotes to debug. |
| 16:55.48 | ferronica_ | bin42y: even me dont know lol |
| 16:55.50 | JordiGH | It works on seven clients. On the eighth one, it hangs at "waiting for headers". |
| 16:56.14 | b1n42y | tarzeau: what did you mean by dselect "(03:40:12) tarzeau: b1n42y: try remove the file or copy over the backup file, and then dselect" |
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| 16:56.59 | tarzeau | b1n42y: you can either create the file freshly, or use the old/backup file in the same dir |
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| 16:57.15 | JordiGH | Awesome, I wish I had known about debug earlier. |
| 16:57.26 | tarzeau | b1n42y: or remove the file, then start dselect (remember it?) |
| 16:57.36 | tarzeau | b1n42y: dunno if ubuntu has dselect... |
| 16:57.48 | Ronin | which is why ....never mind |
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| 16:58.12 | Daemon | nepbabu - i left it and its done something else now..... after it said "sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi removeable disk sbd" it said "done" "check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing moduals, deviced: cat /proc/modules ls /dev" "ALERT! /dev/sbd1 does not exist. dropping to a shell!" then goes into BusyBox and says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" |
| 16:58.17 | Zoki` | guys, I'm newbie at debian, and I want to add database in mysql via ssh. Can anyone help me please ? |
| 16:58.20 | b1n42y | Ronin: lol ... but we didnt get anything useful on ubuntu like we did here |
| 16:58.54 | azeem | tarzeau: why do you talk about dselect anyway? |
| 16:58.56 | nepbabu | Daemon, seems can't identify your scsi disk |
| 16:59.06 | ferronica_ | bin42y: okay i just renamed available-old to available and available to available-old and it worked :) |
| 16:59.24 | tarzeau | azeem: it can create that files? |
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| 16:59.54 | b1n42y | ferronica_: as in you can install or reinsatall packages or did you just rename successfully |
| 17:00.14 | tarzeau | azeem: i also had the problem like that on like two or three machines, and dselect fixed it |
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| 17:00.18 | ferronica_ | bin42y: i can do both :) now |
| 17:00.19 | Daemon | nepbabu - ok the debian installer uses its own drivers for the disks, am i able to specify my own on the installation? |
| 17:00.24 | azeem | apt-cache dump-avail > /var/lib/dpkg/available works just as well usually |
| 17:00.24 | tarzeau | well i fixed it manually on some |
| 17:00.28 | b1n42y | ferronica_: cool |
| 17:00.32 | JordiGH | This is weird. I can wget the file that apt says it's trying to get, so why can't apt do it too? |
| 17:00.35 | tarzeau | azeem: ah, i didn't know that, but then, nice |
| 17:00.45 | b1n42y | tarzeau: thanks apparently that worked like a chram |
| 17:00.46 | JordiGH | What header is it waiting for? |
| 17:00.53 | b1n42y | charm* |
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| 17:01.11 | nepbabu | i am not sure. this it seems is that your kernel doesn't include your scsi disk driver. |
| 17:01.27 | nepbabu | Daemon, ask in #kernel or write quick mail to kernel mail list. |
| 17:01.44 | ferronica_ | bin42y: ya one thing whenever i try to open that available my system hangs no response |
| 17:01.52 | Daemon | ok thanks |
| 17:02.11 | ferronica_ | bin42y: previous available not renamed one |
| 17:02.36 | ferronica_ | bin42y: and ubuntu created new available-old |
| 17:02.40 | b1n42y | ferronica_: not sure, you just want to have a look right? |
| 17:03.21 | ferronica_ | bin42y: what this available contains ? |
| 17:03.22 | b1n42y | ferronica_: maybe just keep track of those files so you know whats what ...just in case |
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| 17:04.26 | b1n42y | ferronica_: im not sure ask someone at ubuntu |
| 17:04.33 | FrFluffyBottom | Hi all, one of my boxes has mounted / as readonly and thus I get a Input/output error whenever I try and execute any commands (such as reboot or runlevel) |
| 17:04.45 | FrFluffyBottom | Is there anyway to either remount the HD or reboot the box in this state? |
| 17:04.49 | b1n42y | thanks all |
| 17:05.02 | ferronica_ | bin42y: okay |
| 17:05.08 | tarzeau | FrFluffyBottom: /etc/init.d/reboot start or ctrl-alt-del |
| 17:05.14 | tarzeau | FrFluffyBottom: or mount -o rw,remount / |
| 17:05.38 | Nyle | tarzeau |
| 17:05.45 | FrFluffyBottom | bash: /etc/init.d/reboot: Input/output error |
| 17:05.58 | FrFluffyBottom | ^ That's the issue I have, all commands seem to be rejected due to he drive being read only |
| 17:06.13 | FrFluffyBottom | I can't ctrl-alt-delete has I have no physical access (else I'd just power it down with hte power button) |
| 17:06.31 | FrFluffyBottom | mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 17:07.37 | tarzeau | FrFluffyBottom: is the disk broken? what says dmesg? |
| 17:07.46 | cico | Err http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages |
| 17:07.47 | cico | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.55 | cico | anyone knows about this error? ^^^^ |
| 17:08.05 | Nyle | tarzeau: I'm taking doomsday |
| 17:08.32 | tarzeau | Nyle: what is it? |
| 17:08.59 | Nyle | 3D Engine for Doom/Doom2/Heretic/Hexen |
| 17:09.10 | tarzeau | cico: man gzip, see DIAGNOSTICS |
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| 17:09.16 | Gusgu | hola |
| 17:09.19 | tarzeau | Nyle: but that data is not free.... |
| 17:09.31 | Nyle | tarzeau: doom shareware is in debian, though not in main |
| 17:09.32 | FrFluffyBottom | dmesg isn't saying anything when I attempt to mount |
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| 17:09.41 | tarzeau | Nyle: why not package/work on some www.sauerbraten.org levels to get them into main? |
| 17:09.47 | tarzeau | Nyle: i mean work on its licensing |
| 17:10.02 | tarzeau | Nyle: this one's great: http://www.quadropolis.us/node/927 |
| 17:10.02 | Nyle | tarzeau: who all on the debian gaming team? |
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| 17:10.15 | Nyle | I have saurbraten installed I played it a few times |
| 17:10.16 | tarzeau | Nyle: many many people, #debian-games on irc.debian.org |
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| 17:10.20 | tempb0y | howdy all |
| 17:10.23 | FrFluffyBottom | Sounds like it's hosed, not gonna be able to get it physically rebooted until Friday, so wondered if I could do that before. Oh well! |
| 17:10.33 | Nyle | oh oftc eh |
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| 17:10.34 | tempb0y | about to install etch and i noticed there are over 21 CD iso images |
| 17:10.43 | tempb0y | out of those which are necessary? |
| 17:10.45 | tarzeau | tempb0y: the first is enough |
| 17:10.53 | tempb0y | ok, cool |
| 17:10.53 | Nyle | tarzeau: however I am partial to doom |
| 17:10.57 | Nyle | tarzeau: I grew up playing it |
| 17:11.02 | tempb0y | tarzeau, thanks |
| 17:11.13 | tempb0y | whats up with the xfce and kde cd1? |
| 17:11.13 | Nyle | the engine itself is under gpl2 tarzeau |
| 17:11.18 | FrFluffyBottom | Oh wait, nm |
| 17:11.19 | FrFluffyBottom | sd 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x00040000 |
| 17:11.19 | FrFluffyBottom | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 109320519 |
| 17:11.30 | jelly | FrFluffyBottom: you could try echoing to /proc/sysrq-trigger, but it sounds like a hw problem |
| 17:11.33 | FrFluffyBottom | Looks like there's a hardware issue there |
| 17:11.34 | FrFluffyBottom | yeah |
| 17:11.35 | tarzeau | Nyle: the engine itself is not giving any joy without any data |
| 17:11.39 | FrFluffyBottom | sd 1:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x00040000 |
| 17:11.40 | FrFluffyBottom | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 109320519 |
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| 17:11.40 | Nyle | tarzeau: and the only non-free part of doomsday doom game is that the full iwad files are copyrighted, but you don't have to give them out |
| 17:11.46 | Nyle | tarzeau: 'freedoom' |
| 17:11.55 | Nyle | tarzeau: 'doom shareware that is already in debian' |
| 17:11.57 | Nyle | :) |
| 17:12.00 | tarzeau | Nyle: nobody's going to stop you... |
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| 17:12.08 | FrFluffyBottom | ah, thanks jelly that seems to ahve worked |
| 17:12.10 | Nyle | tarzeau: I thought you were discouraging me |
| 17:12.12 | aixenv | hey what sets the system default upload path? |
| 17:12.20 | FrFluffyBottom | Never really knew about /proc/sysrq-trigger before |
| 17:13.02 | tarzeau | Nyle: i just like the superior graphics/3d engine of sauerbraten or libnel over doom (flat sprite enemies) |
| 17:13.02 | FrFluffyBottom | Oh no, spoke too soon. Did not work. ssh connection just dropped for an unrelated reason. Heh. Stupid networks. |
| 17:13.02 | Nyle | tarzeau: not at all |
| 17:13.03 | tarzeau | Nyle: come on, we have 2007, the world is not made of flats and cubes anymore |
| 17:13.12 | Nyle | tarzeau: this doom engine plus the 3d model/resource packs make it rival som eof the top 3d fps games |
| 17:13.16 | tarzeau | Nyle: rly? and what about http://freedoom.sourceforge.net/screenshots/ ? |
| 17:13.52 | Nyle | tarzeau: that is just an iwad |
| 17:13.52 | Nyle | the engine applies 3d models on top of it |
| 17:13.52 | Nyle | 100+ fps |
| 17:13.53 | Nyle | very fast and very stable |
| 17:13.53 | nepbabu | i am wondering what i should do for new year 2008 |
| 17:13.53 | nepbabu | :/ |
| 17:13.53 | tarzeau | Nyle: screenshots? |
| 17:13.53 | nepbabu | any ideas? |
| 17:13.53 | Nyle | hang on |
| 17:13.53 | nepbabu | :d |
| 17:13.53 | tarzeau | nepbabu: what CAN you do? |
| 17:13.53 | jelly | FrFluffyBottom: it's quite possible you won'l be able to log in back |
| 17:13.55 | nepbabu | heh |
| 17:13.56 | Nyle | tarzeau: http://www.doomsdayhq.com/ |
| 17:14.03 | nepbabu | i could go out |
| 17:14.10 | Nyle | http://www.doomsdayhq.com/ss.php |
| 17:14.13 | Nyle | tarzeau: ^^ |
| 17:14.14 | nepbabu | eat some real food |
| 17:14.17 | aixenv | hey what sets the system default upload path? |
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| 17:14.55 | Nyle | tarzeau: this is about as good as saurbrated, though in gfx its a tad shallow |
| 17:15.03 | FrFluffyBottom | jelly: That's fine. I'd rather it be down than in that hosed state |
| 17:15.04 | tarzeau | Nyle: it's far from sauerbraten |
| 17:15.11 | FrFluffyBottom | Makes it easier to create an RMA |
| 17:15.20 | Nyle | tarzeau: eh.. gameplay kicks much more ass |
| 17:15.22 | nepbabu | wow. who's sauerbraten? |
| 17:15.22 | Nyle | c'mon man, its doom |
| 17:15.23 | Nyle | :) |
| 17:15.24 | tarzeau | Nyle: it's even far from snowballs/mtp-target, tried www.mtp-target.org ? |
| 17:15.31 | Nyle | nope |
| 17:15.32 | nepbabu | i mean who's playing sauerbraten? |
| 17:15.33 | Nyle | ot yet |
| 17:15.34 | tarzeau | nepbabu: www.sauerbraten.org |
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| 17:15.37 | tarzeau | nepbabu: /me |
| 17:15.39 | nepbabu | i know tarrybone |
| 17:15.45 | nepbabu | oops tarzeau |
| 17:15.46 | nepbabu | :) |
| 17:15.47 | tarzeau | Nyle: if you have pkgs, tell me, i'll try |
| 17:15.51 | Daemon | nepbabu - i cant pm u it says |
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| 17:15.52 | Nyle | tarzeau: you get into nexuiz? |
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| 17:16.01 | Nyle | or Open Arena? |
| 17:16.02 | tarzeau | Nyle: i hate nexuiz (tried it) |
| 17:16.05 | Nyle | why? |
| 17:16.08 | Nyle | I like nexuiz |
| 17:16.10 | tarzeau | Nyle: nah, i dislike open arena too |
| 17:16.13 | nepbabu | tarzeau, on intel atm. sucks |
| 17:16.17 | Nyle | tarzeau: I disklike you |
| 17:16.17 | tarzeau | Nyle: horrible graphics and gameplay |
| 17:16.20 | nepbabu | tarzeau, maybe later i'll see u. ;) |
| 17:16.21 | Nyle | lol |
| 17:16.25 | tarzeau | Nyle: i will not marry you! |
| 17:16.33 | Nyle | nah I think its alright, then again I'm not into a lot of fps games |
| 17:16.46 | Nyle | I wanted to do doom 3d engine cuz i like doom |
| 17:16.53 | tarzeau | Nyle: tried bloboats? |
| 17:16.53 | nepbabu | Daemon, is this custom kernel or stock one? |
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| 17:17.00 | Nyle | tarzeau: I don't game much |
| 17:17.13 | Nyle | tarzeau: i'll have to join the debian games team |
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| 17:17.22 | nepbabu | maybe i should get cs source working some day. |
| 17:17.24 | tarzeau | Nyle: no you don't have to. but you can |
| 17:17.31 | Nyle | tarzeau: I want to |
| 17:17.39 | Nyle | tarzeau: contribute something or another |
| 17:17.40 | tarzeau | Nyle: then do so |
| 17:17.45 | Nyle | yup |
| 17:17.45 | Daemon | nepbabu - this is a stock one |
| 17:17.47 | jelly | tremulous is playable. |
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| 17:17.55 | Nyle | i liked tremulous too |
| 17:18.00 | tarzeau | i didn't |
| 17:18.00 | Nyle | they are all the same to me |
| 17:18.02 | Nyle | fps games |
| 17:18.06 | Nyle | except doom of course |
| 17:18.18 | Nyle | there is just something about killing a cyber demon with a pistol |
| 17:18.21 | nepbabu | alright. they have a discussion somewhere for custom kernel. thought i might ask you Daemon |
| 17:18.22 | Nyle | you can't get over it |
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| 17:18.29 | jelly | that newfangled stuff? wolf3d ftw. |
| 17:18.35 | Daemon | nepbabu - i downloaded etch i386r1 |
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| 17:18.54 | Nyle | I have to go work in a few hours |
| 17:18.56 | nepbabu | that's stock |
| 17:18.56 | Daemon | nepbabu - would that probably work for me? |
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| 17:19.07 | nepbabu | Daemon, should if your arch is intel |
| 17:19.15 | aixenv | anyone know what sets the system default path? |
| 17:19.18 | aixenv | for upload files |
| 17:19.24 | Daemon | nepbabu - xeon is intel right? |
| 17:19.26 | Nyle | what? |
| 17:19.28 | Nyle | upload files? |
| 17:19.31 | nepbabu | yes |
| 17:19.36 | aixenv | ; Temporary directory for HTTP uploaded files (will use system default if not |
| 17:19.36 | Nyle | what do you mean |
| 17:19.36 | aixenv | ; specified). |
| 17:19.36 | aixenv | ;upload_tmp_dir = |
| 17:19.41 | aixenv | from the php.ini |
| 17:19.54 | aixenv | i need to figure out what specifies the system default |
| 17:19.56 | Nyle | see you have to specify upload path for which app |
| 17:20.04 | Nyle | i can't help you |
| 17:20.05 | jelly | aixenv: /tmp ? |
| 17:20.06 | Nyle | I don't know anything |
| 17:20.09 | aixenv | jelly: yes that's what it's using |
| 17:20.13 | Daemon | nepbabu - so where can i get a custom one from? |
| 17:20.14 | aixenv | but i need to know how to change it |
| 17:20.23 | jelly | aixenv: you just said it |
| 17:20.26 | aixenv | it only uploads in 600 perms.. to /tmp |
| 17:20.40 | aixenv | i cant change the php.ini |
| 17:20.46 | nepbabu | Daemon, you -make- a custom one. :) |
| 17:20.56 | aixenv | i need to find what specifies the /tmp path |
| 17:21.01 | Daemon | yeah right haha..... me ? |
| 17:21.06 | jelly | aixenv: it's builtin. |
| 17:21.13 | Daemon | i wouldnt know where, how, when or why |
| 17:21.30 | Nyle | tarzeau: but you gotta admit, for classic doom, it looks really good in those screenshots |
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| 17:21.40 | jelly | aixenv: you can try changing php settings in .htaccess |
| 17:21.42 | tarzeau | Nyle: yes |
| 17:21.45 | nepbabu | Nyle, try sauerbraten man |
| 17:21.49 | nepbabu | it's awesome game |
| 17:21.51 | Nyle | I have it |
| 17:21.56 | Nyle | I play it every now and then |
| 17:22.08 | Nyle | but doom 2 megawads with dehacked patches and demons |
| 17:22.14 | Nyle | c'mon man, how can you top that |
| 17:22.18 | Nyle | fucking demons man ! |
| 17:22.22 | nepbabu | i play it often on my nv gpu but right now its intel. |
| 17:22.28 | Nyle | I have ati |
| 17:22.38 | Nyle | and finally aiglx support and compiz confusion is awesome |
| 17:22.39 | Nyle | :D |
| 17:22.43 | nepbabu | Nyle, well, sauerbraten is free software. how can u top that? |
| 17:22.45 | nepbabu | ;) |
| 17:22.55 | tarzeau | Nyle: do you know a tool to extract wads? |
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| 17:23.07 | aixenv | jelly: there's no way to change it? how would i stop it from uploading at 600 perms only? |
| 17:23.14 | b1n42y | refrains from comment |
| 17:23.15 | tarzeau | Nyle: i have packaged one :) it's called "unmass" |
| 17:23.29 | Nyle | nepbabu: ok, freedoom iwad is free, doomsday engine + models are free, so it makes it look like doom, and you can play all sorts of mega wads, entirely diff/new 32 levels in doom2 etc. |
| 17:23.36 | Nyle | unmass |
| 17:23.37 | Nyle | hmm |
| 17:23.50 | nepbabu | ok will try it some day Nyle :) |
| 17:23.52 | Nyle | tarzeau: unfortunately the only doom wad making I did was in dos back in windows 3.11 |
| 17:24.02 | Nyle | tarzeau: ADE (another doom editor) |
| 17:24.09 | Nyle | I never waded on linux |
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| 17:24.23 | jelly | aixenv: ask your provider on how to change if the usual way via .htaccess doesn't work |
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| 17:24.52 | Nyle | oh |
| 17:25.00 | Nyle | can't get doomsday in debian, but i'll still package it |
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| 17:25.21 | Nyle | the hexen/heretic engines parts include raven tidbits and are restrictive |
| 17:25.23 | aixenv | how do you modify the perms on it? |
| 17:25.27 | Nyle | not compat with DFSG |
| 17:25.45 | Nyle | that is until the upstream devs reimplement that code from scratch |
| 17:25.47 | Nyle | goddamit |
| 17:25.54 | Nyle | I was informed just now |
| 17:26.13 | cico | sub-process gzip error is a notorious error that occurs that when update goes mad. No matter how many times you try, you get this error: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1). Remove any files you find in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ and sanity should restore. You might want to go through http://tinyurl.com/35yyxf for more details. |
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| 17:26.21 | cico | has dpkg learnt the above? ^^^ |
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| 17:26.34 | Nyle | apparantly 0.4% of the code is restrictive, but due to dynamic linking at run time, the engine itself stays gpl |
| 17:26.38 | Nyle | hmm |
| 17:26.49 | cico | !sub-process gzip error is a notorious error that occurs that when update goes mad. No matter how many times you try, you get this error: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1). Remove any files you find in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ and sanity should restore. You might want to go through http://tinyurl.com/35yyxf for more details. |
| 17:26.49 | dpkg | cico: okay |
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| 17:27.24 | minerale | i'm looking for the website where the 'timeout' package originates, how can I find it? |
| 17:27.37 | minerale | it's gotta have a repo somewhere |
| 17:27.39 | aixenv | jelly: there's no way to change it? how would i stop it from uploading at 600 perms only?...if i use the htaccess file, is there any ilnk you know of that talks about this? |
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| 17:29.19 | cico | minerale: what is a timeout package? |
| 17:29.37 | aixenv | this looks like what i want |
| 17:29.39 | aixenv | ; The file storage module creates files using mode 600 by default. |
| 17:29.39 | aixenv | ; You can change that by using |
| 17:29.40 | aixenv | ; |
| 17:29.40 | aixenv | ; session.save_path = "N;MODE;/path" |
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| 17:29.56 | aixenv | wow 4 lines is a flood? |
| 17:30.10 | cico | !paste |
| 17:30.10 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 17:30.18 | aixenv | technically it was 3 lines :P |
| 17:30.25 | aixenv | one was blank hah |
| 17:30.45 | minerale | cico: it's the `timeout` package -- that's its name |
| 17:30.48 | Nyle | 'blank line' is still a line |
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| 17:31.24 | n_np | I'm starting to think about maybe install windows 2008 |
| 17:31.26 | minerale | cico: looking to see who's the author and where its sources are |
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| 17:31.34 | fiddleswrk | hey guys, i have ethc a ibook g3 ppc, and a prism 2.5 senao nl2511 cd ext 2 wlan card |
| 17:31.46 | fiddleswrk | i cant seem to get it working, i have loaded teh hostap drivers |
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| 17:31.56 | fiddleswrk | and it still dosent come up in iwconfig |
| 17:32.02 | f00bar80 | where i can add the repos URLs ? |
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| 17:32.16 | Nyle | !sources.list |
| 17:32.16 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 17:32.19 | cico | !blank |
| 17:32.19 | dpkg | from memory, blank is a line with a space or even one #, ;, etc. is not blank |
| 17:32.45 | Nyle | !tell fiddleswrk -about ppc |
| 17:33.14 | f00bar80 | Nyle: i want to know are all debian packages compatible with ubuntu ? |
| 17:33.20 | n_np | nobody seems to care about ftp anymore:/ |
| 17:33.24 | Nyle | f00bar80: go ask #ubuntu |
| 17:33.37 | Nyle | f00bar80: they took from us, not the other way around, so we don't know what they did with our packages |
| 17:33.44 | f00bar80 | i'm asking debian ppl , as i think they more advanced |
| 17:33.56 | fiddleswrk | nyle: i know that much |
| 17:33.58 | cico | f00bar80: Debian is more advanced but Debian guys did not make Ubuntu. |
| 17:34.13 | Nyle | fiddleswrk: then asking debian ppc users is a better idea |
| 17:34.16 | f00bar80 | can debian be used on a production server ? |
| 17:34.24 | cico | f00bar80: yes |
| 17:34.25 | Nyle | fiddleswrk: pc users in here probably won't provide much help |
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| 17:34.35 | Nyle | fiddleswrk: may find some mac users here, who knows, good luck |
| 17:34.40 | fiddleswrk | T.T |
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| 17:35.30 | f00bar80 | what's the difference between /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 17:35.31 | Kanniball | hi! |
| 17:35.48 | Nyle | f00bar80: one is an example file that show you how things should look like |
| 17:35.56 | Nyle | f00bar80: anything in /etc/ is active configuration |
| 17:36.11 | Nyle | f00bar80: /etc/apt/sources.list is used by apt, and not the one in /usr/share |
| 17:36.13 | Kanniball | does debian packages KDE with improved patchs, or pack only "vanilla" KDE? |
| 17:36.31 | f00bar80 | Nyle: is there a way in debian configs to check if my running server is an open relay/proxy ? |
| 17:36.33 | Nyle | Kanniball: its slightly patched of course for debian |
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| 17:36.40 | Nyle | Kanniball: #debian-kde |
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| 17:36.49 | Kanniball | thanks Nyle |
| 17:36.50 | Eulex | Kanniball, most packages in debian are somewhat patched. |
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| 17:37.20 | Nyle | f00bar80: not unless you made it that way |
| 17:37.32 | Nyle | f00bar80: it wouldn't on a default install setup any of those services |
| 17:37.45 | dutchfish | f00bar80, dsbltesters |
| 17:37.54 | Kanniball | Eulex: I know... but I was asking if there is something at the level of k****u, but I've been afraid of beeing flamed |
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| 17:38.08 | dutchfish | !dsbltesters |
| 17:38.31 | Nyle | Kanniball: kubuntu coats it with layers of makeup |
| 17:38.41 | Nyle | prettify it at the expense of adding new bugs |
| 17:38.52 | Nyle | at least in debian stable you know you're getting a good solid and stable product |
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| 17:39.29 | Nyle | you can prettify it yourself, you need right click menus, its darn easy to add service menus you download off kde-apps |
| 17:39.32 | junix-other | i am having some problems getting aticonfig to work with xorg.conf how do i output it to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?? |
| 17:39.32 | Nyle | etc. etc. |
| 17:39.47 | Kanniball | ok ok, Nyle |
| 17:39.48 | Nyle | junix-other: it just does it itself, you have to run it as root |
| 17:40.05 | junix-other | Nyle, i am |
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| 17:40.29 | Nyle | junix-other: look here |
| 17:40.32 | Nyle | http://paste.debian.net/41714 |
| 17:40.39 | Nyle | this is my ati X1900 XT dual head setup |
| 17:41.00 | Nyle | junix-other: I made this file by hand pretty much |
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| 17:41.23 | junix-other | Nyle, i have a 2400 PRo PCI-E |
| 17:41.31 | Nyle | config will be the same |
| 17:41.36 | Nyle | so will the driver fglrx |
| 17:41.48 | Nyle | the only think you need to change is the monitor stuff and resolutions etc. |
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| 17:41.58 | Nyle | and of course your correct pci bus id |
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| 17:43.36 | Nyle | junix-other: but what problems are you having using aticonfig? |
| 17:44.09 | irule | how may I extract binaries from a deb or rpm? Ive got this rpm installer, used alien to make a deb but I get an error while trying to run that |
| 17:44.11 | Nyle | junix-other: I don't know if the debian fglrx packages (compiled with module-assistant) come with that tool, I installed my drivers from ATI |
| 17:44.23 | Nyle | irule: ar x blah.deb |
| 17:44.27 | Nyle | its just an ar archive |
| 17:44.35 | junix-other | hmmm....my video worked if the vesa driver was used |
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| 17:44.37 | junix-other | if not |
| 17:44.38 | Nyle | irule: which software is it |
| 17:44.40 | cydork | irule: alien sucks sometimes.. |
| 17:44.45 | junix-other | not the fglrx driver |
| 17:44.46 | Nyle | irule: you didnn't find debian packages for it? |
| 17:45.10 | irule | firewalk, I am here but this fix does not work http://www.packetwatch.net/firewalkfix.php |
| 17:45.35 | Nyle | junix-other: then change fglrx to vesa, fix up the monitor stuff |
| 17:45.47 | irule | no debian packages for it, this is an embarrasement! lol |
| 17:45.50 | junix-other | Nyle, shouldn't i be using the fglrx??? |
| 17:45.51 | f00bar80 | i want to ask , regarding the named.conf , by default this file should have external/internal views ? |
| 17:45.52 | Nyle | junix-other: you need 2x monitor, 2x device, 2x screen, proper server layout sections |
| 17:45.55 | Nyle | junix-other: yes you should |
| 17:46.05 | junix-other | Nyle, i am using the debian packages... |
| 17:46.08 | junix-other | why isn't this working |
| 17:46.22 | Nyle | whats wrong with it? |
| 17:46.27 | junix-other | it errors out |
| 17:46.31 | junix-other | No screens found |
| 17:46.36 | Nyle | must I ask the obvious |
| 17:46.39 | junix-other | No devices detected |
| 17:46.40 | Eulex | !no screens found |
| 17:46.41 | dpkg | [screens found] not a useful message - it means X11 has a problem somewhere with something. Read your /var/log/XFree86.0.log (or /var/log/Xorg.0.log for X.org) more closely, and look for the real error, which probably begins with (EE), or - ask me about "troubleshooting x". |
| 17:46.44 | Nyle | junix-other: paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 17:47.30 | junix-other | it says No devices detected |
| 17:47.42 | Nyle | junix-other: which driver are you using? |
| 17:47.48 | junix-other | fglrx |
| 17:47.48 | Eulex | junix-other, what graphics card and driver? |
| 17:47.49 | junix-other | debian |
| 17:47.53 | Nyle | junix-other: lsmod|grep fglrx |
| 17:48.06 | Nyle | junix-other: if not listed, then have you compiled it? |
| 17:48.15 | Nyle | junix-other: if you compiled it, did you forget to modprobe fglrx? |
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| 17:48.19 | cico | when I do aptitude update, I get that "linux-image-2.6.18-5-486" has been KEPT back. when I do aptitude dist-upgrade, it says that "linux-image-2.6.18-5-486" is a NEW package that will be installed. why? |
| 17:48.23 | Eulex | junix-other, what graphics card? |
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| 17:48.30 | junix-other | i installed it from the debian archives |
| 17:48.38 | junix-other | Eulex, ATI Radeon 2400 Pro |
| 17:48.39 | Nyle | !fglrx |
| 17:48.39 | dpkg | The binary driver made available by ATI. See <fglrx one-liner> for installation. See http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/fglrx-driver for a non-Debian installation method, or currently not working with xorg > 7.1. Downgrade xserver-xorg-core to 7.1 for the time being if you are on testing/unstable. See also <fglrx 2.6.21>. |
| 17:49.05 | Eulex | junix-other, HD? |
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| 17:49.15 | junix-other | Eulex, no |
| 17:49.23 | MrDigimon | hello |
| 17:49.29 | Nyle | junix-other: what do you get if you do modprobe fglrx as root |
| 17:49.38 | junix-other | Eulex, wait it could be |
| 17:49.46 | junix-other | Nyle, i get module not found |
| 17:49.58 | Nyle | then you need to compile the ati driver modules |
| 17:49.59 | Nyle | fglrx i mean |
| 17:50.04 | Nyle | !fglrx one-liner |
| 17:50.04 | dpkg | [fglrx one-liner] update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Contrib and non-free sources needed. ask me about <non-free sources> |
| 17:50.10 | f00bar80 | any comment ? |
| 17:50.15 | MrDigimon | what can i do with a bunch of old pentium 1s and 2s? i dont want to throw them away..... |
| 17:50.27 | junix-other | Nyle, ok thanks |
| 17:50.27 | Nyle | f00bar80: I know nothing about named.conf |
| 17:50.33 | Eulex | junix-other, the there's no ati radeon 2400 pro, there is a ati radeon hd 2400 pro, though. |
| 17:50.50 | Nyle | Eulex: doesn't matter, fglrx will run it |
| 17:51.02 | Eulex | junix-other, you will probably need a very new fglrx for this. the one in etch will probably not do. |
| 17:51.07 | Nyle | 8.42.3 |
| 17:51.18 | Nyle | its fairly easy |
| 17:51.24 | Eulex | Nyle, well, not in etch. |
| 17:51.42 | Eulex | etch has _8.28.8_ |
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| 17:51.50 | Nyle | you download the binary driver from ati, you do blahblah --buildpkg Debian/etch |
| 17:51.57 | Nyle | get the kernel source pacakge......damn |
| 17:52.07 | Nyle | thats old |
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| 17:52.35 | Nyle | anyway, it will generate the fglrx krnel source packages etc. and th driver package |
| 17:52.50 | Nyle | you install them, and THEN you can use module assistant to compile the new driver |
| 17:52.51 | junix-other | ok |
| 17:53.08 | Nyle | so first get the latest fglrx from their site |
| 17:53.14 | irule | how may I fix this issue? I have already installed libdnet.a but not an so" error while loading shared libraries: libdnet.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 17:53.35 | Nyle | Eulex: you think that ought to do it, I don't have an etch box with ati |
| 17:53.39 | chops | irule: libdnet.so.1 is different from libdnet.a. How did you install libdnet.a? |
| 17:54.02 | irule | as the README said, ./configure and make only |
| 17:54.03 | Eulex | Nyle, yeah, getting the driver directly from ati would do. either that or doing a simple sid backport. |
| 17:54.11 | Nyle | Eulex: sid has the latest one? |
| 17:54.12 | Eulex | !tell junix-other about simple sid backport |
| 17:54.13 | Nyle | 8.42.3 |
| 17:54.15 | Eulex | Nyle, yes. |
| 17:54.18 | cydork | irule: install libdnet |
| 17:54.19 | junix-other | sid?? |
| 17:54.20 | chops | irule: Is there a Debian package for the library you're trying to install? |
| 17:54.21 | Nyle | oh well thats probably easier for him |
| 17:54.21 | junix-other | i'm on etch |
| 17:54.26 | Nyle | !simple sid backport |
| 17:54.26 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
| 17:54.37 | irule | I thought I did install it |
| 17:54.40 | Daemon | ok if your guys were going to install debian on a dell poweredge 1950, what version would you use? |
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| 17:54.46 | Nyle | hmm, actually it might not be |
| 17:54.53 | chops | Daemon: If it's a server, etch |
| 17:54.54 | Nyle | there are a few packages he'll have to backport |
| 17:55.05 | Daemon | chops - i386 ? |
| 17:55.07 | Nyle | junix-other: forget backport. just do as suggested earler |
| 17:55.12 | junix-other | i am |
| 17:55.30 | chops | Daemon: i386 will be simplest; I would expect to 1950 to be 64-bit, so you could also try amd64 |
| 17:55.45 | edistar | I get the xserver error: "No valid FontPath could be found", can someone help me with that? |
| 17:56.04 | Daemon | yeah it xeon core-duo 2.33ghz and bios says its 64bit |
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| 17:56.37 | Daemon | chops - you sure amd64 will work with xeon? |
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| 17:56.47 | Eulex | if it's a 64-bit xeon, yes. |
| 17:56.55 | chops | Daemon: Yes |
| 17:57.05 | Nyle | is there a reason you need amd64? |
| 17:57.18 | Daemon | no |
| 17:57.26 | Nyle | you just want amd64? |
| 17:57.31 | Daemon | but i cant get i386 installed |
| 17:57.32 | junix-other | Nyle, still didn't work |
| 17:57.41 | Nyle | junix-other: what did you do now? |
| 17:57.43 | chops | Daemon: AMD made the architecture, and Intel scrapped their 64-bit architecture and started making AMD-compatible chips to recover some marketshare (without ever explicitly saying that's what they were doing). |
| 17:57.45 | Daemon | it keeps hanging during install |
| 17:57.54 | junix-other | i get the No Devices detected |
| 17:58.03 | junix-other | Nyle, i did the one liner you told me to do |
| 17:58.10 | chops | Daemon: i386 should certainly install on a Xeon -- where does it hang and what is it doing when it hangs? |
| 17:58.11 | Nyle | ok |
| 17:58.19 | Nyle | junix-other: as root, modprobe fglrd |
| 17:58.20 | Nyle | junix-other: as root, modprobe fglrx |
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| 17:58.58 | junix-other | fdlrd could not be found |
| 17:59.00 | Daemon | chops - i select no packages to install, then it downloads 2 packages "security updates i think", then hangs on 18% |
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| 17:59.08 | Nyle | junix-other: argh.. fglrx |
| 17:59.12 | Daemon | spoke to some people in here earlier and they have no idea |
| 17:59.13 | Nyle | junix-other: lsmod|grep fglrx? |
| 17:59.17 | junix-other | its loaded |
| 17:59.32 | Daemon | we think it doesnt like my scsi drives |
| 17:59.35 | Nyle | ok, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:59.39 | ezguy | is use the debug option "session required /lib/security/pam_limits.so debug" in /etc/pam.d/login, where is the debug message go to? |
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| 17:59.45 | Nyle | junix-other: look at lines containing (EE) |
| 17:59.50 | junix-other | ok |
| 17:59.50 | junix-other | i am |
| 18:00.03 | junix-other | No devices detected |
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| 18:00.21 | chops | Daemon: How long does it hang? |
| 18:00.25 | Nyle | you have fglrx loaded? |
| 18:00.26 | irule | is there some package that contains this? libdnet.so.1 ..."apt-cache search libnet" gave me something I installed but the so is still unavailable |
| 18:00.35 | Nyle | junix-other: is fglrx specified in xorg.conf |
| 18:00.40 | Eulex | junix-other, you _need_ fglrx 8.41 or later for it to work with your graphics card. |
| 18:00.56 | Nyle | Eulex: i thought he said he just installed em |
| 18:00.58 | Daemon | chops - probably all day if i left it, ive tried about 20mins earlier |
| 18:00.59 | cydork | irule: ahh you need to install libdnet-dev, check /msg dpkg search |
| 18:01.00 | chops | Towards the end of the install, it will download a kernel package, and the progress bar doesn't update while it's downloading (which can be a while). At least, that's the behavior of the etch beta 3 installer I used yesterday. |
| 18:01.01 | minerale | how do I run a second command if the first exits with non zero ? |
| 18:01.03 | junix-other | Eulex, oh where do i get that? |
| 18:01.06 | junix-other | Nyle, yes |
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| 18:01.12 | Nyle | junix-other: did you intall the drivers in etch, or the ones from ati.amd.com? |
| 18:01.13 | minerale | woudl that bi command1 || command2 ? |
| 18:01.16 | Eulex | junix-other, either from amd's site or from sid. |
| 18:01.18 | chops | minerale: Yes |
| 18:01.21 | Nyle | you need fglrx 8.42.3 from ati.amd.com |
| 18:01.22 | junix-other | ok |
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| 18:01.29 | Daemon | chops - its not downloading anything because the router lights would be flashing |
| 18:01.30 | junix-other | i'm going to ATI's site |
| 18:01.54 | chops | Daemon: Hm |
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| 18:02.06 | chops | Daemon: What exactly is on the screen when it hangs? What operation does it say it's 18% done with? |
| 18:02.10 | irule | cydork libdnet-dev is installed already, and the app does not find the libdnet.so.1 file |
| 18:02.14 | valdyn | !tell irule -about search |
| 18:02.37 | Eulex | Nyle, didn't believe he could have installed it that quick, and correct I was. |
| 18:03.07 | Daemon | Select and install software is the title, below that it shows the progress bar at 18% and below that it says "retrieving file 2 of 2" but its finnished downloading it |
| 18:03.12 | junix-other | Eulex, do i just run the run file? is there something else i need to do? is it as easy as doing the nvidia? |
| 18:03.22 | chops | Daemon: Hm, that is odd |
| 18:03.33 | Daemon | i think it doesnt like the hard drive |
| 18:03.33 | cico | can anyone explain this:- http://pastebin.com/m742c6cbd ? Why in upgrade, linux-image is kept back and why it is being installed in dist-upgrade? |
| 18:03.37 | Nyle | junix-other: you got the file? |
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| 18:03.59 | Eulex | junix-other, I'm not sure, I never ran ati's installer. |
| 18:04.02 | chops | Daemon: I have installed on a PE 1950 without trouble; what disk controller do you have? Can you switch to the console when it hangs and take a look at 'ps -Af' to see what might be going on? |
| 18:04.11 | valdyn | cico: read the apt-get or aptitude manpage |
| 18:04.21 | Nyle | junix-other: type as root.. ./ati_installer_file_name --buildpkg Debian/etch |
| 18:04.28 | Daemon | chops - im not sure what disk controller it is, how do i check? |
| 18:04.28 | junix-other | ok |
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| 18:04.48 | chops | Daemon: Do you know what type -- SATA, SCSI, SAS? |
| 18:04.57 | Nyle | junix-other: i think its the --buildpkg switch, if not, just run the file with --help switch, look at the list, and read through it |
| 18:05.04 | Daemon | chops - sas |
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| 18:05.24 | Daemon | chops - i have 2x73gig sas drives running raid1 |
| 18:05.24 | Nyle | junix-other: figure out exactly which option it is, there should also be a --listpkg type option too that lists all the packages it can generate |
| 18:05.40 | Nyle | junix-other: as much as i remember though, it should be --buildpkg Debian/etch |
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| 18:05.50 | chops | Daemon: Huh. I'm not sure what to tell you -- I used SATA drives, but that's not necessarily the problem. You can try waiting until it hangs and then switching to the console and investigating what might be going wrong. |
| 18:05.57 | linkslice | anyone using dkim in here? |
| 18:06.00 | Daemon | chops - alt+f3 for console right? |
| 18:06.07 | Nyle | junix-other: it will generate fglrx-driver, fglrx-kernel-source etc. etc. packages in the curretn directory |
| 18:06.16 | Daemon | its hanging now in front of me so i can check now |
| 18:06.28 | chops | Daemon: Also, I'd consider filing a bug against the installer (possibly after downloading a daily snapshot; I'm not sure what the status of the lenny installer is). |
| 18:06.29 | Daemon | im sure the kernel doesnt like the sas drives |
| 18:06.36 | chops | Daemon: Ctrl-Alt-F2 |
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| 18:06.44 | Nyle | junix-other: once it is done, you will do as root, dpkg -i *.deb and let it install the files. if it complains about a dependency, just read through it, and probably will have to clean it up with apt-get -f install |
| 18:07.06 | Nyle | junix-other: once those packages are installed, you will do as root, m-a a-i fglrx -f |
| 18:07.25 | Nyle | remember to use the -f switch this time to regenerate the package if its already been generated (which I think you already did) |
| 18:07.40 | Daemon | chops - im in the console now, what do you want to know? ive got to get this running really by tonight |
| 18:07.54 | Nyle | junix-other: basically after the packages ati install generates, you install them and follow the fglrx one liner |
| 18:07.58 | Daemon | chops - i'll pay you if you can help me get it running |
| 18:08.03 | Daemon | im desperate |
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| 18:10.21 | Nyle | junix-other: oh and btw, as root, rmmod fglrx |
| 18:10.31 | Nyle | junix-other: that will unload the fglrx module you've compiled previously |
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| 18:10.40 | Nyle | junix-other: do that first |
| 18:11.47 | irule | apt-file search libdnet.so.1 gives me no response, what does it give tou on your debian? I just want to know why |
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| 18:12.14 | chops | Daemon: Switch to the second console, and type 'ps -Af' |
| 18:12.38 | Daemon | im there already |
| 18:12.40 | chops | Daemon: Look near the bottom of the list; the last few entries may be the command(s) that's hanging |
| 18:12.54 | minerale | netstat is slow when dns is slow, is there a way to speed it up? |
| 18:13.01 | chops | minerale: netstat -n |
| 18:13.13 | chops | Daemon: You can retype them into a pastebin and I can take a look if you like |
| 18:13.18 | jelly | !fusion |
| 18:13.30 | Daemon | chops might take ages |
| 18:13.39 | chops | Daemon: Just the last few lines |
| 18:13.42 | minerale | chops: well yeah, but I was hoping that after the first lookup it would cache the dns results |
| 18:13.51 | Daemon | ok, but i cant see the whole line cos it goes off screen |
| 18:14.08 | Daemon | brb |
| 18:14.09 | chops | Daemon: ps -Afw maybe |
| 18:14.36 | nepbabu | Daemon, you might want to look at http://www.inserve.se/edu/debian/ especially point 5. |
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| 18:15.31 | Daemon | nepbabu - thanks but its all dutch to me |
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| 18:15.40 | nepbabu | Daemon, no it's not all that hard. |
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| 18:16.17 | Daemon | nepbabu - really im not being funny i struggle at the best of times, linux just aint my thing, when its up and running its great but getting it up and running might kill me |
| 18:16.32 | Daemon | im willing to pay im that deperate |
| 18:16.33 | chops | Daemon: That's about how Linux is, yes :-) |
| 18:16.37 | Daemon | im skint as fuck but i'll pay |
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| 18:18.05 | junix-other | Nyle & Eulex, thanks it worked!! |
| 18:18.18 | junix-other | now i need to get dual head video to work |
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| 18:18.51 | atealtha | on Etch, I can't boot the xen kernel because it says 'invalid format' or something along those lines saying it cannot execute. ideas? |
| 18:19.01 | chops | Daemon: I honestly wouldn't expect it to be the SAS if the installation got that far (or at least a lack of a driver) -- it might be bugginess in the driver causing a hang or something, but I'd expect that it's something simpler |
| 18:19.24 | nepbabu | chops, could be sas driver |
| 18:19.45 | chops | Daemon: You can also check 'dmesg' during the hang to see if there's a message at the end saying something like "SAS failure /dev/sda1 cancelling I/O oh shit". |
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| 18:21.04 | Daemon | program parted_server is using a depreciated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to S (then goes off screen and on the next line it says "IO") |
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| 18:21.29 | Daemon | and also no "floppy0: no floppy controllers found" |
| 18:21.33 | elnovatillo | whats a cool tool to CONFIG samba in kde? |
| 18:21.36 | Daemon | both about 4 times on the screen |
| 18:21.40 | chops | Daemon: Neither of those sound fatal to me |
| 18:22.00 | wols_ | elnovatillo: vi |
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| 18:22.26 | elnovatillo | wols_: i mean for a novice like me |
| 18:22.29 | Daemon | chops - i cant see anything else |
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| 18:22.33 | wols_ | elnovatillo: nano then |
| 18:22.55 | elnovatillo | wols_: maybe something more visual and clickable? |
| 18:23.08 | wols_ | elnovatillo: whatever you write yourself then |
| 18:23.30 | wols_ | atealtha: what CPU? |
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| 18:23.41 | elnovatillo | SMB4K!! |
| 18:24.12 | atealtha | wols_: dual Xeon |
| 18:24.49 | elnovatillo | when i try to access a resource in a linux machine from anotehr pc via samba, its asking me a login and password, where i can set that user and password in samba? |
| 18:25.06 | wols_ | elnovatillo: man smbpasswd |
| 18:25.10 | karsten | elnovatillo: smbpasswd |
| 18:25.13 | Nyle | elnovatillo: smbpasswd -a username |
| 18:25.16 | atealtha | wols_: the kernel I installed is 2.6.18-4-xen-686 |
| 18:25.21 | atealtha | I also tried -5- |
| 18:25.38 | wols_ | atealtha: can your Xeon do VT-x? |
| 18:25.44 | atealtha | wols_: yeah |
| 18:25.50 | atealtha | it has the vme flag |
| 18:25.57 | atealtha | in /proc/cpuinfo |
| 18:26.22 | Daemon | chops - what do you think the problem is? |
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| 18:26.53 | chops | Daemon: I'm not sure. Have you pastebinned the last few lines of 'ps -Afw'? |
| 18:27.10 | Daemon | sorry no not yet |
| 18:27.13 | Daemon | will do it now |
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| 18:32.01 | Azar | hello honorables!! |
| 18:32.37 | atealtha | wols_: any ideas? |
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| 18:32.52 | Azar | guys you are aware about ries.debian.org problems? is it up yet? |
| 18:33.21 | elnovatillo | Thanks guys, you are amazin |
| 18:34.38 | wols_ | atealtha: apart from defective download: no |
| 18:35.02 | atealtha | wols_: hmm alright, thanks |
| 18:35.14 | elnovatillo | wols_: ty a lot |
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| 18:35.36 | elnovatillo | wols_: if i were a hot blonde big titties ill sleep with you |
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| 18:36.44 | azeem | Azar: no |
| 18:36.56 | Azar | thanks, azeem |
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| 18:38.04 | wols_ | I sleep with blacks or redheads with small titties too. and ponies. mustn't forget ponies |
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| 18:38.36 | Daemon | chops - ther eyou go buddy http://pastebin.ca/764969 |
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| 18:39.50 | chops | Daemon: Sorry, I meant 'ps -Afw', not dmesg. This is helpful though, in that I don't see anything seriously amiss in it. |
| 18:40.04 | Daemon | ok hang on then please |
| 18:40.09 | chops | Daemon: It's a little odd that it's loading NTFS and QNX filesystems, but that could be normal for the installer. |
| 18:40.10 | HardDisk_WP | does anyone have a C/C++ decompiler? I want to get behind the secret how my notebook controls wireless/bluetooth enabling and disabling via this software |
| 18:40.38 | spal | HardDisk_WP: objdump, gdb? |
| 18:40.59 | spal | oh ignore my message. I thought disassembler. |
| 18:41.16 | HardDisk_WP | ...and it's a windows software |
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| 18:42.52 | chops | HardDisk_WP: This is #debian. #decompilers-for-windows is over there ---> |
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| 18:43.32 | amphi | HardDisk_WP: biew has a decent disassembler in it |
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| 18:43.50 | valdyn | HardDisk_WP: a c/c++ decompiler is pointless, you're looking for disassembler |
| 18:44.08 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, melikes ndisasm, dunno if it does win32 binaries on linux, though. |
| 18:44.08 | HardDisk_WP | i don't really speak assembler^^ |
| 18:44.08 | jchlg | hello, i wonder if i can use a software (in enterprise) which is under the GNU Gpl license |
| 18:44.09 | jchlg | ? |
| 18:44.17 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, then learn it |
| 18:44.17 | valdyn | HardDisk_WP: that'S your problem. |
| 18:44.22 | Eulex | jchlg, yes, why not? |
| 18:44.25 | jchlg | the software will be running on more than 50+ computers |
| 18:44.51 | jchlg | Eulex, i wonder if it is legal or illegal |
| 18:44.54 | valdyn | jchlg: what the hell |
| 18:44.58 | jchlg | :> |
| 18:44.58 | Eulex | gpl has no number of users per company limitation. |
| 18:45.03 | Eulex | jchlg, very legal. |
| 18:45.15 | jchlg | Eulex, that was the answer i wanted to read |
| 18:45.17 | valdyn | jchlg: do you think ibm sells machines to enterprises with linux illigally? |
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| 18:45.22 | dv | hi |
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| 18:45.25 | amphi | jchlg: _using_ gpl software is no problem for anyone AFAIK - it's distributing derivative works where the gpl kicks in |
| 18:45.32 | dv | I have trouble with mounting my usb stick |
| 18:45.41 | dv | dmesg tells me the kernel recognized the drive, |
| 18:45.42 | jchlg | amphi, eg: linksys wireless roter |
| 18:45.48 | dv | but it does not name any /dev devices |
| 18:45.49 | dv | -s |
| 18:45.55 | jchlg | firmware which are based on gpl but derived works without providing the sources |
| 18:46.03 | dv | so the usb stick does get recognized, but does not get any device name |
| 18:46.22 | jchlg | dv what shows dmesg | grep -i usb ? |
| 18:46.31 | valdyn | jchlg: gpl has no restrictions whatsoever on usage, only on distribution |
| 18:46.43 | jchlg | valdyn, thanks a lot for being so clear |
| 18:46.50 | Eulex | dv, does it do usb universal mass storage? almost all nowadays should, but you never know... |
| 18:47.02 | dv | yes |
| 18:47.33 | dv | http://rafb.net/p/XG3Ul061.html |
| 18:47.36 | Eulex | dv, on other os'es does it require drivers? |
| 18:47.42 | dv | no |
| 18:47.46 | Eulex | ok |
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| 18:47.51 | dv | in fact I could automount it on my other debian box |
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| 18:48.01 | dv | I just dont understand why I dont get any device node |
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| 18:48.08 | Eulex | dv, difference in kernel version, perhaps? |
| 18:48.13 | dv | ? |
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| 18:48.18 | valdyn | dv: how do you know that you are not getting a device node? |
| 18:48.25 | dv | dmesg usually tells me this |
| 18:48.33 | valdyn | dv: it doesnt really |
| 18:48.36 | dv | also, there is no sd* or sg* node in /dev |
| 18:48.38 | valdyn | dv: not ever |
| 18:48.45 | dv | valdyn, it does always on my other debian box |
| 18:48.45 | Eulex | dv, do you have the same linux kernel version on both? |
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| 18:48.49 | Daemon | chops - ok here you go http://pastebin.ca/764980 |
| 18:48.53 | dv | no |
| 18:49.00 | Eulex | valdyn, *shrug*, I've seen it here |
| 18:49.08 | Eulex | dv, that was an answer to me? |
| 18:49.10 | valdyn | dv: it doesn't, you're implying that listing sda means anything for /dev content |
| 18:49.11 | dv | I had to recompile the kernel here for some weird hardware |
| 18:49.25 | dv | valdyn, anyway I want to mount that stick. |
| 18:49.31 | dv | which seems to be impossible though. |
| 18:49.32 | valdyn | dv: you probably left out the scsi disk driver? |
| 18:49.35 | Eulex | sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk |
| 18:49.36 | shadfc | Anyone know whats involved with converting RS-485 on RJ11 to RS-232 ? |
| 18:50.12 | chops | shadfc: You'll need hardware that can receive RS-485; other than that not much |
| 18:50.15 | jchlg | shadfc, that means cheap controller :> instead of expensive commercial solution |
| 18:50.17 | valdyn | !usb storage |
| 18:50.17 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. ask me about <automount> |
| 18:50.23 | Eulex | dv, recompile and include the right drivers. |
| 18:50.27 | valdyn | dv: ^ ^, |
| 18:50.45 | valdyn | dv: any of the listed modules missing should be a hint.. |
| 18:51.42 | chops | Daemon: Hm, can you investigate the last process in the list and see what package it's working on? |
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| 18:51.57 | dv | sd_mod ? |
| 18:51.59 | dv | hmm |
| 18:52.03 | dv | I can modprobe usb-storage, |
| 18:52.07 | dv | but not sd_mod. |
| 18:52.12 | Daemon | chops - i dont knwo what you mean, im a complete noob |
| 18:52.14 | dv | what is sd_mod? |
| 18:52.18 | chops | Daemon: This sounds a lot like a simple installer bug; I'd start thinking about trying a more recent installer snapshot and/or filing a bug. |
| 18:52.36 | valdyn | dv: the scsi disk driver |
| 18:52.39 | Isil`Zha | hallo. is it possible to search through the packages' descriptions with aptitude or would i need to use dpkg? |
| 18:52.46 | abrotman | aptitude search |
| 18:52.56 | dv | I do have a scsi_mod driver |
| 18:52.59 | Isil`Zha | that's for the packagaes' names isn't it? |
| 18:53.01 | Daemon | chops - well i dont have time for a bug to be fixed cos i need this working by tonight, whats a snapshot? |
| 18:53.02 | dv | well lets see. |
| 18:53.05 | abrotman | Isil`Zha: try it |
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| 18:53.20 | dv | darn. you're right, its missing. |
| 18:53.25 | abrotman | Isil`Zha: it searches names and descriptions .. if you need to search other fields, there's another method |
| 18:53.35 | Eulex | dv, usb disk devices and sata hdds uses scsi emulation. thus you need the scsi driver. |
| 18:53.36 | Isil`Zha | abrotman: i just did and i had the image only packages containing my search terms were returned. might be i had bad luck |
| 18:53.36 | dv | can I compile the module without rebooting? |
| 18:53.44 | valdyn | dv: yes |
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| 18:53.58 | dv | make modules modules_install right? |
| 18:54.00 | valdyn | dv: compile it, install it, run depmod -a, load it |
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| 18:54.21 | chops | Daemon: The installer snapshots are available at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 18:54.34 | valdyn | dv: if that'S the way you made your kernel, ok |
| 18:54.43 | abrotman | Isil`Zha: what are you searching for? |
| 18:54.56 | Daemon | whats the zsync thing? |
| 18:54.58 | Zippy2 | is there any program i can use to monitor ssh connections, console connections and x11 sessions on workstations? |
| 18:55.09 | Zippy2 | or any patches to sshd/bash/csh/xorg, etc. |
| 18:55.09 | abrotman | monitor for what? |
| 18:55.16 | chops | Daemon: I'm not sure what the zsync thing is |
| 18:55.19 | Zippy2 | abrotman: abuse |
| 18:55.25 | Daemon | chops these are etch right? |
| 18:55.28 | abrotman | if you don't trust the users .. kill them! |
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| 18:55.35 | Zippy2 | abrotman: they are students, i wish i could |
| 18:55.40 | chops | Daemon: They're the most recent installer images, but they should be capable of installing etch |
| 18:55.41 | abrotman | suspension! |
| 18:55.52 | Zippy2 | abrotman: they wont. it's my job and this is why im asking. |
| 18:56.00 | valdyn | dv: usb-storage should have enabled scsi disk support automagically |
| 18:56.02 | Zippy2 | besides, suspension only happens if i have proof, and i have none. |
| 18:56.06 | dv | got it! |
| 18:56.07 | dv | thanks. |
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| 18:56.10 | Daemon | chops - are u saying etch isnt is this download? its just an installer? |
| 18:56.19 | abrotman | Isil`Zha: otherwise .. try `apt-cache search` |
| 18:56.24 | Isil`Zha | abrotman: irc. i tried again. searching 'konversation' this time (which wasn#t returned searching for 'irc'). as konversation is there with a mention of irc in it's description i seem to do something wrong? |
| 18:56.24 | jchlg | :> |
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| 18:57.06 | abrotman | Isil`Zha: you'd have to pass aptitude the correct options to have it search package descriptions |
| 18:57.08 | Zippy2 | abrotman: ? |
| 18:57.11 | Isil`Zha | abrotman: yes that worked. thank you very much! |
| 18:57.14 | chops | Daemon: The modern Debian installers will download etch from the network, yes -- the installer is separate from the etch distribution. Does that make sense? |
| 18:57.14 | jchlg | If someone can help me for Core Duo T2300 which arch i need to choose? |
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| 18:57.27 | dv | jchlg, x86 or x86-64 |
| 18:57.29 | valdyn | jchlg: read the documentation? |
| 18:57.34 | abrotman | Zippy2: you can't watch everything all the time .. setup more logging .. and then something to process thel ogs |
| 18:57.42 | Zippy2 | abrotman: any program recommendations? |
| 18:57.43 | dv | i386 or amd64, that is |
| 18:57.48 | Daemon | chops - yeah i think so, thanks for the help, i'll give this a go and hope it works :) |
| 18:57.57 | Daemon | apreciate it :) |
| 18:58.08 | abrotman | Zippy2: or look at some of the applications that lock down systems like bastille or se-linux |
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| 18:58.18 | chops | Daemon: np. Sorry I couldn't do more, but remote debugging is difficult and debugging of installs is difficult because the system isn't set up yet. |
| 18:58.22 | chops | Daemon: Good luck. |
| 18:58.36 | Daemon | thanks :) |
| 18:59.08 | jchlg | valdyn, doc says AMD64 |
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| 18:59.31 | jchlg | but when i run the AMD64 there s no way "NO EM64T or AMD64" cpu found |
| 18:59.56 | valdyn | jchlg: maybe only core 2 duo is amd64, I don't know |
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| 19:00.38 | charlesg3 | can I use dpkg to obtain the .deb for a package? |
| 19:00.42 | abrotman | no |
| 19:00.55 | Zippy2 | abrotman: i cant lock it down; theyre engineers |
| 19:00.55 | jchlg | use wget :> |
| 19:00.55 | charlesg3 | I need to apply a patch to the .install file for a package |
| 19:00.57 | abrotman | Zippy2: fair warning .. security is hard .. you have to be perfect .. they only have to find one problem |
| 19:00.59 | Zippy2 | professors wouldnt lock that |
| 19:01.02 | abrotman | Zippy2: they're students! |
| 19:01.03 | Zippy2 | like that |
| 19:01.07 | eFfeM | hi, what is the place to get old sources from, i need to get a 2.6.21.4 kernel with debian patches |
| 19:01.09 | Zippy2 | professors fight for the students |
| 19:01.11 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 19:01.11 | dpkg | sdn is, like, go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is largely lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 19:01.13 | Zippy2 | and for themselves (they use the computers, too) |
| 19:01.15 | valdyn | !sdn |
| 19:01.20 | abrotman | !win me |
| 19:01.20 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 19:01.22 | valdyn | grr! |
| 19:01.25 | eFfeM | thanks abrotman! |
| 19:01.39 | jchlg | dpkg, :> |
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| 19:01.47 | abrotman | Zippy2: then all you can do is log .. not much else |
| 19:01.47 | eFfeM | and valdyn |
| 19:02.06 | eFfeM | was at archive but that was not the right place |
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| 19:02.32 | Zippy2 | abrotman: what do i use to log? |
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| 19:02.47 | shadfc | jchlg something like http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=425607 ? |
| 19:02.50 | kenjy | hi guys, If I writte a program with GCC it become GPL? |
| 19:02.56 | azeem | kenjy: no |
| 19:02.58 | abrotman | no |
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| 19:03.05 | kenjy | azeem, why not? |
| 19:03.08 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 19:03.13 | azeem | kenjy: read the gcc license |
| 19:03.14 | jchlg | shadfc, it s a dell820 |
| 19:03.19 | jchlg | D820 |
| 19:03.24 | azeem | kenjy: or go ask #gnu, this is off-topic here |
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| 19:03.57 | baggend | Can anyone point me towards some information on how to cross compile packages for a particular architecture. I don't mean to build an i386 package on amd64, but to build an i386 library package for installation on an amd64 system, for example. |
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| 19:03.59 | valdyn | kenjy: programs aren't ever written with gcc |
| 19:04.02 | shadfc | jchlg sorry, i was asking about the RS-485 converter. |
| 19:04.20 | valdyn | kenjy: so the gcc license has NOTHING to do with it |
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| 19:04.30 | jchlg | shadfc, i saw it a blackbox one:o |
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| 19:04.51 | kenjy | ok valdyn then MS can build closed apps with open source tools and librarys? |
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| 19:05.18 | valdyn | kenjy: why would you think that a library is gcc ? |
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| 19:05.27 | valdyn | kenjy: or why what applies to gcc applies to a library? |
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| 19:05.45 | valdyn | kenjy: a compiler and a library don't have much in common |
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| 19:06.07 | kenjy | gpl librarys |
| 19:06.12 | Ranpha1 | The progress meter that comes with GNOME shows the network speed in MiB/s what does tis indicate the Megabyte per second? because i have 3 on a 1 gigbait network |
| 19:06.13 | baggend | kenjy: Yes, they could. The GPL limits what you can do with source code, it doesn't prevent you from using open-source tools. (That would exactly be exactly AGAINST the GPL.) |
| 19:06.20 | donaldo | if i am getting an http 403 (forbidden) when trying to access my svnweb installation, does that indicate that the user account on the server that invokes svnweb doesn't have permission to access the repository? if so, how do i change the permissions of my subversion repository so that it can be accessed |
| 19:06.22 | valdyn | kenjy: thy cannot |
| 19:06.47 | kenjy | why not valdyn? they can take gtk and gcc and port ms office to gtk and then sell it right? |
| 19:06.54 | valdyn | kenjy: but this is why many libraries are actually _not_ gpl, but lgpl, which permits this |
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| 19:07.26 | valdyn | kenjy: if gtk was gpl then they could not. |
| 19:07.30 | valdyn | kenjy: but gtk is not gpl |
| 19:08.09 | kenjy | ok I can take the kernel linux and sell it if I don't do any change in it right? |
| 19:08.23 | valdyn | kenjy: you should read the license |
| 19:08.34 | baggend | Ranpha1: MiB is a "mebibyte", which is meant to be a term that doesn't confuse people like megabyte supposedly does. Anyway, a MiB is basically the same unit of measurement as a megabyte. (Not a megabit though.) |
| 19:08.36 | valdyn | kenjy: you are asking questions that have been answered a million times already, see google |
| 19:08.39 | kenjy | valdyn: it say about the 4 freedoms |
| 19:08.39 | nepbabu | chops, could it be that daemon's disk driver couldn't be initialised? |
| 19:08.46 | donaldo | oh i see something now. if the resource requested by my browser is $svnwebroot/reponame i get an error from svn-web rendered in XML that says "Could not open the requested SVN filesystem" -- i guess that confirms it |
| 19:08.51 | valdyn | kenjy: everyone can sell any gpl software |
| 19:09.04 | kenjy | woooo Im going to be reach |
| 19:09.11 | chops | nepbabu: For Daemon's problem, you mean? |
| 19:09.19 | donaldo | kenjy: you're retarded |
| 19:09.20 | nepbabu | chops, yeah |
| 19:09.25 | kenjy | yo too donaldo |
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| 19:09.34 | chops | nepbabu: Ah, yes. The word "Daemon" confused me :-). |
| 19:09.35 | Ranpha1 | So 3 MiB/s is fast enough for a gigabit network? |
| 19:09.49 | kenjy | you* |
| 19:09.54 | baggend | kenjy: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html |
| 19:10.07 | nepbabu | chops, :) sorry. cause i think he's installer was working properly. (http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06.html) |
| 19:10.10 | valdyn | Ranpha1: that's slow for a 100 mbit network |
| 19:10.11 | chops | nepbabu: Anyway, it seemed to me like his install was getting a good deal further than a totally-broken disk driver would have let it get -- it made the filesystem, installed most of the base system, and was just setting up the last few packages when it hung. |
| 19:10.22 | nvz | Ranpha1: is this on a gigabit lan or downloads from the web? |
| 19:10.23 | baggend | Ranpha1: Actually, it's pretty bad. On a properly configured gigabit network you should be seeing at least 20 MiB/sec or more. |
| 19:10.28 | g00se | How many floppies to get an Etch base install? |
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| 19:10.44 | chops | Ranpha1: A gigabit network should get 20-70 MB/s (or be limited by disk speed, depending on what you're doing). |
| 19:10.49 | baggend | g00se: A few hundred... :) |
| 19:10.51 | nepbabu | chops, hmm... :/ true |
| 19:10.53 | chops | g00se: Don't. :-) |
| 19:11.12 | donaldo | i believe my problem svn-web problem is that each time i perform a checkin, the file named /path/to/subversion/repository/reponame/db/current becomes owned by my user, and my group, thus locking out svn-web (i read about having to configure around this problem, however i thought by changing the permissions once it would work) |
| 19:11.17 | g00se | It can't be more than 10 surely? |
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| 19:11.24 | Ranpha1 | valdyn strange becasue iperf gives 500 Mytes |
| 19:11.40 | Ranpha1 | nvz it's the internal network |
| 19:11.58 | Jabka | How can i set the page qouta i tried using lpadmin -p cups-pdf -o job-quota-period=86400 -o job-page-limit=1 but i was still able to print alot of print jobs |
| 19:12.01 | nvz | Ranpha1: as pointed out you are limited by other factors such as disk access speed |
| 19:12.05 | chops | g00se: 1 billion bits/second is around 100 million bytes/second (but you don't get 100 MB/s for various reasons). |
| 19:12.32 | chops | g00se: But 10 MB/s is pretty slow for a gigabit network |
| 19:12.34 | rance | I have a question about equivs package, say you are going to install a package from source but its already installed as a package, there are packages installed that depend on the first package being there. How do you uninstall the package without uninstalling the packages that depend on it, so that you can install the equivs build replacement? example, equivs mta-local package would replace exim4 in etch, how would you uninstall exim4 long enoug |
| 19:12.47 | Ranpha1 | nvz : sata disk (1,5 gbs) with encryption , a ssh connection to a filerver with encryption (encryption is manage by C7 Via CPU) |
| 19:12.55 | baggend | chops: g00se was asking about floppies, Ranpha1 is asking about transfer speeds. |
| 19:12.56 | nvz | chops: he's talking about floppies not networks |
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| 19:13.07 | valdyn | rance: you dont do this, ever |
| 19:13.16 | valdyn | rance: you _first_ install the equiv |
| 19:13.16 | g00se | Yes there are some crossed wires here ;-) |
| 19:13.17 | chops | baggend: Er, right. I am confused. Carry on. |
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| 19:13.37 | chops | g00se: In my head, yes :-) |
| 19:13.55 | nvz | g00se: yeah, he must be trying to run an ethernet card with a token ring driver or something |
| 19:13.56 | rance | ok, how to install the equiv package, since it wont as there is already a package installed |
| 19:14.07 | valdyn | rance: why wont it? |
| 19:14.23 | Ranpha1 | nvz goose what do you mean crossed wires and token ring driver? |
| 19:14.23 | baggend | rance: If you do both as part of the same operation this should work. apt should see that a replacement is being provided and say "proceeding anyway, as you request". |
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| 19:14.51 | nvz | Ranpha1: haha.. we're not tallking about you |
| 19:15.03 | rance | dpkg -i mta_local-version fails as it would uninstall exim4 |
| 19:15.11 | nvz | Ranpha1: we're speaking metaphorically about the fact that people are confusing conversations here |
| 19:15.19 | Ranpha1 | nvz oh lol .....not any option i can do jumbo frame packet ?? |
| 19:15.48 | valdyn | rance: that'S not the real error message is it? |
| 19:15.50 | g00se | I think i'd better come back later. Obviously installing Etch from floppies is so weird that it's caught people on the hop ;-) |
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| 19:16.13 | valdyn | rance: you can dpkg -i --force-depends=blah file.deb, followed by "aptitude remove exim4" or somesuch |
| 19:16.21 | valdyn | rance: im not sure that is really needed though |
| 19:16.36 | valdyn | rance: ops, i meant "--ignore-depends" i think |
| 19:16.43 | rance | no, it isnt the real error message I used dpkg --purge --force-depends exim4 and that worked |
| 19:16.51 | rance | then I installed the mta_local package |
| 19:18.04 | rance | I just thought there was a better way to do what I did |
| 19:18.23 | rance | I'd like to script it, but not if its questionable |
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| 19:21.58 | donaldo | well i just got svn-web working (until my next checkin) and i realized it doesn't seem to have very many features. can anyone make a recommendation? |
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| 19:23.59 | grendal_prime | im monitoring a dual xenon/2core machine..and it is only showing 3 procs anyone have an idea why that would happen? |
| 19:24.48 | abrotman | grendal_prime: what makes you think it's only showing 3? |
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| 19:25.15 | Daveman | Good day, abrotman :) |
| 19:25.19 | abrotman | hi Daveman |
| 19:25.32 | grendal_prime | well when i run htop..i see three procs..when i cat /proc/cpuinfo it shows 3 |
| 19:25.37 | qrck | can someone tell me why i get failures merging the list in /var/lib/apt/lists/*bla*_unstable_main_i18n_Translation-de in apt ? |
| 19:25.38 | abrotman | grendal_prime: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor |
| 19:25.40 | Daemon | omg chops - its installed |
| 19:25.50 | Daveman | :) |
| 19:25.59 | grendal_prime | i could have swore it had 4 when i compleated the install. |
| 19:26.12 | abrotman | grendal_prime: how many lines does the above command yield ? |
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| 19:26.36 | grendal_prime | 0, 1 and 2 |
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| 19:26.47 | abrotman | grendal_prime: check the bios to see how many it sees |
| 19:27.07 | grendal_prime | i already tried the proc...hmmm need to be at the box for that |
| 19:27.16 | grendal_prime | the bios that is |
| 19:27.19 | grendal_prime | its an hour away now |
| 19:27.54 | LesleyB | does anyone here use aide or tripwire? |
| 19:28.31 | LesleyB | ? |
| 19:28.36 | baggend | LesleyB: I don't use tripwire myself, but I'm pretty familiar with it. |
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| 19:29.03 | abrotman | grendal_prime: well .. you could ask the tech there to do it ? |
| 19:29.17 | LesleyB | well ... I checked with the bot earlier who said use aide but the sourceforge site indicates that hasn't been active since 2006 |
| 19:29.38 | Daemon | installed debian, rebooted and its just stuck saying "loading please wait..." anyone any idea's? |
| 19:29.38 | LesleyB | tripwire's config files seem to be easier to use |
| 19:29.40 | grendal_prime | i am the tech there... |
| 19:29.48 | grendal_prime | thanks for the idea though |
| 19:29.51 | abrotman | now i see the problem! :) |
| 19:30.41 | LesleyB | but I am not entirely happy because it looks like a tripwire -m c ... -Z low will update the db on it |
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| 19:31.54 | LesleyB | i.e. I thjought the check was separate to the update on the db |
| 19:32.03 | Daemon | installed debian, rebooted and get an error "ALERT" /dev/sdb1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!, check your root= boot arguemnt (cat /proc/cmdline). Check for missing modules (cat /pro/modules), or device files (ls /dev) <<< can anyone help????? |
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| 19:32.29 | LesleyB | but when I update the db (on tripwire) it gets into a huff because the report file in it's own pid is missing |
| 19:32.42 | LesleyB | does that makes sense to you baggend? |
| 19:33.06 | elnovatillo | how to save the KDE desktop layout?? everytime i login it shows the windows i opened yesterday |
| 19:33.16 | baggend | LesleyB: Slightly. :) I haven't actually used tripwire in over a year, so I'm pretty rusty. Give me a minute. |
| 19:33.24 | RichiH | where is the list of manually installed packages? |
| 19:33.34 | LesleyB | :) baggend |
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| 19:34.08 | wols_ | Daemon: fdisk -l |
| 19:34.22 | wols_ | RichiH: manually installed? |
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| 19:34.30 | Ryushin | What is the best way to address a usb floppy? It mounts as /dev/sda. Is there a way to get it to mound as /dev/fd0? |
| 19:34.35 | fdsafdsafdas | whats for kill -USR1 ? |
| 19:34.39 | Daemon | wols_ - says fdisk not found |
| 19:34.45 | oooook100 | hey |
| 19:34.49 | wols_ | Daemon: cat /proc/partitions |
| 19:34.55 | oooook100 | is their ANYWAY i can install linux over linux |
| 19:35.03 | wols_ | oooook100: debootstrap |
| 19:35.14 | LesleyB | RichiH: dpkg -l will list all packages installed via apt-get |
| 19:35.18 | oooook100 | i mean on the same partition / file system |
| 19:35.23 | Daemon | wols_ - sda, sda1, sda2, sda5 |
| 19:35.37 | wols_ | Daemon: there you have your answer |
| 19:35.39 | baggend | oooook100: You mean to install two different distributions? Or just multiple kernels? |
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| 19:35.47 | oooook100 | no |
| 19:35.52 | oooook100 | sayt i have gentoo |
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| 19:35.57 | oooook100 | i want debian on it |
| 19:35.57 | Daemon | wols_ - i have no idea what thats saying |
| 19:36.02 | oooook100 | 1 partition one file system |
| 19:36.02 | wols_ | oooook100: debootstrap |
| 19:36.17 | oooook100 | how cna i replace things that are running ? |
| 19:36.23 | wols_ | Daemon: that you have sda1 sda2 and sda5 but no sdb1 |
| 19:36.43 | wols_ | !tell oooook100 about debootstrap |
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| 19:36.52 | Daemon | but shouldnt the installer have set that up? it did the partitions for me |
| 19:37.04 | baggend | oooook100: Linux doesn't lock the files for applications that are currently running, so you can just replace the running application's files. Next time you start it, it'll use the new version. |
| 19:37.09 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 19:37.09 | dpkg | rumour has it, debootstrap is <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/debootstrap, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html, or see http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap, or key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System. See to the release specific Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide for more details. |
| 19:37.23 | wols_ | !lose abrotman |
| 19:37.23 | dpkg | abrotman: You Lose. |
| 19:37.29 | fdsafdsafdas | whats for kill -USR1 ? |
| 19:37.40 | wols_ | fdsafdsafdas: man kill |
| 19:37.45 | abrotman | wols_: I'll get you, and your little bot too! |
| 19:37.57 | Daemon | wols_ but shouldnt the installer have set that up? it did the partitions for me |
| 19:38.16 | wols_ | dpkg is NOT little! |
| 19:38.19 | fdsafdsafdas | wols_ it don't say nothing ¬¬ that description its in blanck |
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| 19:38.44 | abrotman | wols_: fat and bloated dog ? |
| 19:38.49 | wols_ | fdsafdsafdas: it's a user defined signal |
| 19:39.16 | fdsafdsafdas | wols_ man kill don't say that ... |
| 19:39.29 | wols_ | fdsafdsafdas: your BRAIN should say that |
| 19:39.58 | fdsafdsafdas | wols_: Ok my brain say it, where can I define the user (my) signal? |
| 19:40.05 | abrotman | fdsafdsafdas: man 7 signal |
| 19:40.12 | wols_ | fdsafdsafdas: with a C compiler: yes |
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| 19:40.25 | oooook100 | hmm |
| 19:40.38 | fdsafdsafdas | fdafdsafads |
| 19:40.38 | oooook100 | so when i debootstrap how would i install it on the same system ? |
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| 19:40.58 | fdsafdsafdas | man debootstrap oooook100 |
| 19:41.31 | oooook100 | i understnad debootstrap i use it all the time |
| 19:41.41 | oooook100 | but how would i overwrite whats on the system now ? |
| 19:41.48 | Growly|depressed | how do i force a drive not to use dma at boot? |
| 19:41.54 | Growly|depressed | when the kernel is booting |
| 19:42.00 | Growly|depressed | bios is set to fail |
| 19:42.02 | RichiH | LesleyB, wols_: apt-get and aptitude keep track of what you install manually, i.e. what you specify, and what is installed automatically, i.e. to satisfy dependencies |
| 19:42.11 | fdsafdsafdas | depends of the module parameters Growly|depressed |
| 19:42.18 | wols_ | Growly|depressed: kernel parameters |
| 19:42.30 | Growly|depressed | the ide controller module right? |
| 19:42.39 | wols_ | RichiH: apt-get sometimes does. not always |
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| 19:42.56 | wols_ | depends on your debian version |
| 19:43.03 | oooook100 | hmmmmm |
| 19:43.09 | fdsafdsafdas | Growly|depressed: kernel modules parameters |
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| 19:43.16 | oooook100 | how owuld i replace a running distro with another one while running |
| 19:43.22 | oooook100 | i will use the same kernel |
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| 19:43.26 | oooook100 | but hmm |
| 19:43.28 | cizra | oooook100: Can't, I suspect. |
| 19:43.38 | oooook100 | hmmm |
| 19:43.41 | oooook100 | theres always a way |
| 19:43.42 | fdsafdsafdas | ooook100 you should check openvz |
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| 19:43.45 | cizra | Hi, I need some help configuring exim4. |
| 19:43.47 | Growly|depressed | fdsafdsafdas - oh ok, that's what i was hoping for |
| 19:44.17 | fdsafdsafdas | oooook100: you should check openvz |
| 19:44.19 | cizra | When I send mail at root@blanu (blanu is my hostname), the mail ends up at my ISP (I set it up as a relay), as well as blanu is truncated to blan, for some strange reason. |
| 19:44.38 | RichiH | wols_: sid. always. :) |
| 19:44.42 | Ozux | hi, I use lenny, My Lenny don't auto mount MassStorage devices automatically, it was do this today morning but after shutting down and starting it can't mount automatically, I cheked Preferences>removable disk ... and other thing but It can't mount, Any bidy knows why? |
| 19:45.24 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: its hald, gnome-volume-manager and pam running? are you part of the wheel group? |
| 19:46.39 | Ozux | fdsafdsafdas, gnome-volume-manager and hal yes |
| 19:46.59 | Ozux | fdsafdsafdas, pam ? ps aux | grep pam >> No thing! |
| 19:47.17 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: sorry I mean dbus |
| 19:47.22 | simonrvn | pam isn't a daemon |
| 19:47.40 | nepbabu | what has pam got to do with automount? |
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| 19:47.57 | fdsafdsafdas | nothing nepbabu ¬¬ don't you read? I mean dbus |
| 19:48.05 | Ozux | fdsafdsafdas, Lots of dbus Processes exist |
| 19:48.05 | simonrvn | pam_mount is the only trhing i can think of |
| 19:48.06 | nepbabu | cool |
| 19:48.12 | simonrvn | th* |
| 19:48.16 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: You need to be in plugdev group |
| 19:48.23 | nepbabu | %_% |
| 19:48.29 | fdsafdsafdas | simonrvn: please read up and go aways |
| 19:48.36 | Ranpha1 | Guys i ahve a realtek 8169 on both computer which runs the slow network. Do i need to install a better driver? |
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| 19:48.43 | Ozux | fdsafdsafdas, yes my User is in that group |
| 19:48.47 | fiddleswrk | hey how do i install the wi driver? |
| 19:48.53 | simonrvn | fdsafdsafdas: do not tell me to go away |
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| 19:49.01 | fdsafdsafdas | did you got a kernel or dbus update? |
| 19:49.05 | Nyle | yeh |
| 19:49.06 | simonrvn | fdsafdsafdas: you don't have to be an asshole about it |
| 19:49.07 | Nyle | simon |
| 19:49.09 | Nyle | go away |
| 19:49.12 | Nyle | ;) |
| 19:49.20 | fdsafdsafdas | simonrvn: I tell what I want because Im free and we are freedom |
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| 19:49.28 | Nyle | simonrvn: my main man dude homie bro |
| 19:49.31 | wols_ | simonrvn: yes go away. what are you still doing here? |
| 19:49.36 | simonrvn | fdsafdsafdas: you don't know what it means then |
| 19:49.47 | nepbabu | i am gone. ^_^ |
| 19:49.52 | Nyle | fdsafdsafdas: when you want help, you have to nice about it. You can't be an asshole to the people who are helping you, otherwise you won't recieve any help |
| 19:50.01 | wols_ | fdsafdsafdas: english motherfucker, you speak it? |
| 19:50.01 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: did you got a kernel update or a dbus/hald update? |
| 19:50.17 | fdsafdsafdas | Nyle: I don't wan't help, Im helping Ozux |
| 19:50.19 | karsten | wols_: Mind your language please. |
| 19:50.22 | Ozux | fdsafdsafdas, No, I didnt update from last month!! |
| 19:50.46 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: what show dmesg when you plug your device? |
| 19:50.47 | wols_ | karsten: it's a quote |
| 19:50.59 | wols_ | well, missing the "do", mea culpa |
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| 19:51.11 | karsten | wols_: Fix your quote, please ;-) |
| 19:51.12 | Nyle | simonrvn: my dad wants me to build him one of those jav1000 machines, as a sample |
| 19:51.16 | Nyle | simonrvn: making some progress |
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| 19:51.36 | simonrvn | Nyle: pic? dunno what that is, but cool |
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| 19:51.45 | Nyle | simonrvn: remember the proposal? |
| 19:51.45 | atoponce | i haven't had any updates in sid for about 3-4 days. is this expected? |
| 19:51.51 | abrotman | atoponce: yes |
| 19:51.52 | wols_ | Nyle: PIC with java? |
| 19:51.58 | atoponce | abrotman: how so? |
| 19:52.00 | simonrvn | Nyle: yeh |
| 19:52.06 | fdsafdsafdas | wols_: no I don't speak english xD |
| 19:52.07 | Nyle | simonrvn: thats what its called hehe |
| 19:52.08 | abrotman | atoponce: you sohuld be subscribed to debian-devel-announce .. ries is missing .. no updates |
| 19:52.16 | Nyle | simonrvn: silly name i know but whatever |
| 19:52.18 | simonrvn | Nyle: ok. cool :) |
| 19:52.27 | Ozux | fdsafdsafdas, http://phpfi.com/274513 |
| 19:52.29 | atoponce | abrotman: ahh. ok. yeah. i should subscribe to that. good call. thx |
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| 19:52.40 | assasuka | hi all, if i am on etch, and i download a source package from unstable, how do i automatically install all the deps? |
| 19:52.52 | Nyle | !simple sid backport |
| 19:52.52 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
| 19:52.52 | Ranpha1 | do i need to install a realtek driver to get a onbaird 8169 nic working at giabit speed? |
| 19:52.54 | assasuka | in order to build it |
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| 19:53.02 | Nyle | assasuka: you would use apt-get build-dep |
| 19:53.08 | assasuka | thanks all |
| 19:53.36 | wols_ | Ranpha1: no |
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| 19:54.02 | Nyle | Ranpha1: you just have to have other gb eth hw |
| 19:54.28 | Nyle | just having one nic in a machine going at gbeth won't do nothing |
| 19:54.38 | Ranpha1 | Nyle other gb eth hw ...nice but it's onbaord |
| 19:54.39 | wols_ | Ranpha1: /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-k7/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko |
| 19:54.56 | wols_ | Ranpha1: "other" being outside your PC. cables, switches, other NICs |
| 19:55.29 | Ranpha1 | /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-k7/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko is present but have 2.6.21 kernel (lenny) |
| 19:55.43 | Ranpha1 | cables are fine and switch |
| 19:55.48 | wols_ | Ranpha1: then r8169.ko is present in your other kernel too |
| 19:55.50 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: wait a while ... |
| 19:55.58 | Ozux | :) |
| 19:56.03 | wols_ | Ranpha1: how did you ascertain you don't have gbit speeds? |
| 19:56.07 | Ranpha1 | wols_ it's present but not working i have slower speed then 100mbit |
| 19:56.46 | wols_ | Ranpha1: so it connects at 10MBit/s only? |
| 19:57.06 | MrWGW | is there a good, easier alternative to directly editing iptables for controlling open ports, closed ports and port forwarding? |
| 19:57.15 | Ranpha1 | wols_ well it's connect with 1000Mbit/s speed but the actual transfer speed is 3MiB/s |
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| 19:57.33 | wols_ | Ranpha1: then learn to configure your software |
| 19:57.55 | Ranpha1 | wols_ it's a default .... |
| 19:58.01 | Ranpha1 | *on default |
| 19:58.32 | wols_ | Ranpha1: that is most probably your problem |
| 19:58.59 | Ranpha1 | wols_ how come everthing is on auto and dhcp |
| 19:59.03 | baggend | Ranpha1: Having a gigabit network requires a bunch of different components. You have to have a network card that supports it, wiring the supports it, and switches that support it. If all 3 aren't up to par (and very few consumer-level switches are at this point) you won't get much out of it. |
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| 19:59.36 | wols_ | not to mention that with most software your tcp stack needs to be configured prperly too |
| 19:59.54 | Ranpha1 | baggend saying my giabit siwtch of 3com is worse then my 100mbit sitecom ....funny |
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| 20:00.00 | wols_ | and then realtek card. there is not a single realtek chip that actually runs at the full speeds its advertised at |
| 20:00.08 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: you need to make a udev rule for your device, then you need to add that device to the fstab ... |
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| 20:00.34 | Ranpha1 | wols_ so insteds of 1000mbit i have 30 mbit speeds ......... |
| 20:01.12 | Ozux | fdsafdsafdas, I have 2 USBFlash disk and 1 Mobile phone + My digtal Camera, They was working nice till to night, what can make this problem? |
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| 20:02.50 | DustyBin | before i look into commercial vendors, is there a such thing as open-source ecommerce templates? My friend wants to put up a website to sell computer games and he needs suitable ecommerce template for it. |
| 20:02.52 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: I had the same problem with a usb hard disk, in my case it was because I did a hald update ( but that was in gentoo) I don't know why you are having this problem in debian because you didn't got any update, you can try that or try this now: dpkg-reconfigure hal |
| 20:04.21 | Ranpha1 | baggend i have gigabit networks, gigabit switch and cat-6 cables |
| 20:04.22 | Ozux | fdsafdsafdas, Thanks, for help, maybe writing rules is good ;-) Or updating system (Die or Live) |
| 20:05.12 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: udev rules are good :D my usb harddisk its /dev/cosmos and my palm its /dev/palm jaja |
| 20:05.24 | fdsafdsafdas | Ozux: any way you are welcome :) |
| 20:05.39 | abrotman | DustyBin: interchange is one .. i don't use it .. but i know it exists |
| 20:05.45 | baggend | Ranpha1: In that case it's an issue with software config. Are you using jumbo frames? |
| 20:05.49 | abrotman | !info interchange |
| 20:05.51 | dpkg | interchange: (e-commerce and general HTTP database display system), section web, is optional. Version: 5.5.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 887 kB, Installed size: 4476 kB |
| 20:06.10 | abrotman | DustyBin: but i've heard people have some fits with it .. YMMV |
| 20:06.22 | Ranpha1 | baggend : No , but i still using a 100mbit router , if i read google right that gives problems |
| 20:06.27 | abrotman | DustyBin: can i have a free game now? :) |
| 20:07.01 | baggend | Ranpha1: Yup, that would definitely cause problems. |
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| 20:07.15 | baggend | It won't "break" it, but performance will suffer. |
| 20:07.22 | Ranpha1 | baggend but it should cause te network slowdown right? |
| 20:08.31 | baggend | Ranpha1: If you've enabled jumbo frames on the machines, and the router doesn't support them, then that will cause quite a bit of slowdown since those frames will have to be chopped up on the router end. |
| 20:09.18 | Ranpha1 | baggend yeah okay but the router only gives the ip adress and de internet connection , everthing elese is on a switch |
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| 20:09.51 | wad | How do I specify a hex code on a command line? |
| 20:10.01 | wad | say I want to grep for a sequence of control characters |
| 20:10.05 | baggend | Ranpha1: One second, just got a phone call. |
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| 20:10.58 | wad | hello? |
| 20:11.26 | DustyBin | abrotman: so far i found these open-source ecommerce templates: http://www.zen-cart.com http://www.oscommerce.com/ http://www.magentocommerce.com/ http://fishcart.org/ |
| 20:11.42 | abrotman | DustyBin: i just gave you one? |
| 20:12.17 | DustyBin | aye interchange, ill check it out :-D |
| 20:12.26 | jelly | a really serious question: is it possible to feed output of mplayer to xanalogtv xscreensaver? |
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| 20:15.06 | Ranpha1 | baggend you there? |
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| 20:17.38 | Yorlik | When I have installed with debootstrap - how can i invoke the config process again ? |
| 20:17.53 | baggend | Ranpha1: Sorry, I'm going to be a while. |
| 20:18.00 | _Krieger_ | did somebody got grub-install stuck with messages about tempnam and ambigous redirect? |
| 20:18.20 | assasuka | hi maybe someone can help me with that, i need to temporarily act like another user on this system, because i have to fix some stuff on that user, and i don-t want to log out and log in with different name...is that possible on a urxvt window? |
| 20:18.22 | Ranpha1 | i'm going try something anyway so maybe later |
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| 20:20.10 | jelly | assasuka: man su |
| 20:21.06 | jelly | assasuka: basically, become root, from there you can become any other user |
| 20:21.17 | assasuka | jelly: thanks alot! |
| 20:21.17 | Yorlik | How do i create the hosts RSA/DSA key for ssh ? |
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| 20:22.18 | \amethyst | Yorlik: man ssh-keygen |
| 20:22.27 | Yorlik | Thanks ! |
| 20:22.27 | \amethyst | Yorlik: It can generate both user and host keys |
| 20:22.35 | Yorlik | Okay - didn#t know that. |
| 20:22.53 | solemnwarning | Is there some reason all the xen kernels are i686? |
| 20:23.12 | Yorlik | And the overall config script after a fresh installation ? I tried dpkg-reconfigure base-config, but it seems to have changed. |
| 20:23.27 | jelly | I thought host key pair is generated on installation of the server package. |
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| 20:23.40 | \amethyst | it should be, yes |
| 20:23.48 | Yorlik | I use debina in a Solaris branded zone - its a bit tricky ... i have to do some manual stuff. |
| 20:23.59 | jelly | ah. |
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| 20:24.04 | \amethyst | Yorlik: did you install the ssh debian package? |
| 20:24.07 | Yorlik | I Installed from a tarballed ebootstrapped system |
| 20:24.11 | Yorlik | Yes. |
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| 20:24.28 | jelly | sounds like fun :-) |
| 20:24.28 | \amethyst | Yorlik: oh, so you need a new hostkey since it's a new host |
| 20:24.30 | Yorlik | But for some reason it didn#t create the RSA/DSA keys |
| 20:24.45 | Yorlik | There is no key at all. |
| 20:24.58 | jelly | Yorlik: perhaps dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server would do the job. Just guessing. |
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| 20:25.21 | \amethyst | Yorlik: was /etc/ssh/ in the tarball? |
| 20:26.28 | Yorlik | No - it wasnt... but i just checked the dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server - it gave me a segfault |
| 20:26.38 | Yorlik | Seems to be the special conditions here. |
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| 20:26.46 | Yorlik | So i should do it manually |
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| 20:28.11 | jelly | Uh, it shouldn't segfault... I wonder if you get access to /dev/random inside the zone. |
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| 20:29.10 | xoz | Yorlik: try purge and reinstall. it might be error from the postinstall/preinstall script |
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| 20:30.31 | Yorlik | The segfault happened when /dev/null was accessed, but its there and seems to work correctly. /dev/random gives nice output as usual .. |
| 20:31.00 | jelly | Yorlik: in any case, you can see how the package creates them in /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst, function create_keys :-) |
| 20:31.20 | Yorlik | Yup - I'll cat it and steal the code. |
| 20:31.24 | Yorlik | Thanks a lot ! |
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| 20:31.58 | assasuka | btw, is it better to do backports from unstable or from testing? |
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| 20:33.14 | DawnLight | does anyone know if there's a problem with the debian.exe and ppp-udeb? |
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| 20:33.53 | DawnLight | i'm writing modules=ppp-udeb in the preseed line but it doesn't start the modules and doesn't give me that configuration in the installation |
| 20:34.14 | elnovatillo | any clue why the movies AVI looks distorted in KDE? |
| 20:34.44 | xoz | elnovatillo: you can try vlc |
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| 20:35.02 | elnovatillo | xoz__: vlc is not available in lenny |
| 20:36.10 | parsek_77 | hi, what does Open Office use for converting documents to PDF? |
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| 20:37.11 | assasuka | i was wondering, is there something i can do about an unsupported winmodem, is there something like ndiswrapper for that? |
| 20:37.30 | karsten | assasuka: Yes, soemtimes. |
| 20:37.48 | assasuka | karsten: really it does work? :D omg maybe i can try it then! |
| 20:38.45 | jelly | assasuka: also, for some conexant-based modems there are commercial linux drivers |
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| 20:39.02 | Yorlik | Okay - ssh login now worked - thanks a lot for the good help ! |
| 20:40.38 | assasuka | jelly unfortunately is a toshiba satellite 1800 |
| 20:40.43 | assasuka | it uses a strange driver |
| 20:41.36 | Yorlik | Seems I need to do a lot of setup stuff here - what was the command to restart the basic settings, like locales and such ? |
| 20:41.48 | Cripps | I just acquired a logitech Dual Action game pad. I've tried jscalibrate and qjoypad to get the gamepad working. I have done "modprobe joydev;modprobe analog;modprobe adi" ... I can get the buttons on the pad working without any effort, but I cannot seem to get the D-pad or the analog working in games ... when I use jscalibrate for the dpad and the analog sticks the input is fine. Can somebody help me to figure this o |
| 20:41.49 | Cripps | ut and/or provide some good documentation? I'm running Debian Lenny, 2.6.21-2-686 |
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| 20:45.10 | xota | hi! I'm installing bcm43xx-fwcutter and in the --configure process can't download de wl_apsta.o, how can i do? |
| 20:46.42 | DawnLight | assasuka, there is a project |
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| 20:46.52 | aksn | hi all |
| 20:47.04 | parsek_77 | can I only install Open Office 2.3 or should I make a complete install? |
| 20:47.17 | parsek_77 | sorry Open Office Writer 2.3 |
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| 20:47.35 | assasuka | DawnLight where? |
| 20:47.38 | Supaplex | parsek_77: you can install just part |
| 20:48.32 | aksn | i'm using deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free as a repository, and sometimes i get no updates, until i change it in sources.list, is it some kind of bug? i'm using debian x64 |
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| 20:49.47 | elnovatillo | come on guys , add VLC to lenny please.... |
| 20:50.06 | aksn | if i change it to fr, and i change it back to ftp.debian.org it updates ok |
| 20:50.19 | parsek_77 | Supaplex: how can I install it? should I enable some extra repo or just donwload from openoffice.org deb package? |
| 20:50.40 | wols_ | aksn: what country are you in? |
| 20:50.52 | aksn | wols_, spain |
| 20:51.05 | wols_ | aksn: then why don't you use ftp.es.debian.org? |
| 20:51.11 | dondelelcaro | elnovatillo: Which VLC? Have you filed a RFP bug? Can Debian legally distribute it? Is the licence DFSG compatible? |
| 20:51.26 | hark | elnovatillo: it's only been 4 months, give it some time ;) |
| 20:51.36 | lymeca | elnovatillo: VLC is in etch and sid as far as I remember. |
| 20:51.36 | aksn | wols_, yes, but i've been using ftp.debian.org a long time, and never had this problem |
| 20:51.45 | Supaplex | parsek_77: I'd use the debian offical one, unless you have specific needs/reasons not to |
| 20:51.45 | wols_ | dondelelcaro: vlc hasn't been in testing for ages now while it's in etch and sid |
| 20:51.56 | wols_ | aksn: that doesn't answer my question |
| 20:52.03 | Supaplex | !tell parsek_77 -about search |
| 20:52.03 | Azar | aksn: I use with a country code too... |
| 20:52.07 | Supaplex | !tell parsek_77 -about sources.list |
| 20:52.14 | Supaplex | parsek_77: that should get you started :) |
| 20:52.17 | dondelelcaro | !+tell elnovatillo -about why vlc is not in testing |
| 20:52.18 | dpkg | told elnovatillo about why vlc is not in testing. |
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| 20:52.53 | parsek_77 | Supaplex: it looks like pdf writer is not working correctly on my machine, fonts look very crowded sometimes touching and etc |
| 20:52.58 | elnovatillo | how i can set firefox as default browser in KDE, instead of the ugly Konqueror? |
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| 20:53.51 | Supaplex | parsek_77: I've noticed the same thing :( |
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| 20:54.06 | Yorlik | What again was the command to restart the basic settings, like locales, keyboard, timezone and such ? |
| 20:54.14 | parsek_77 | Supaplex: but that doesn't happen with OO 2.3 on ubuntu |
| 20:54.39 | streuner | dondelelcaro: new feature? :-) |
| 20:54.52 | aksn | wols_, here is why: Err http://ftp.es.debian.org testing/contrib Translation-es |
| 20:54.59 | kencausey | Have the non-free Nvidia packages been abandoned? I notice they are no longer tracking kernel updates in unstable. |
| 20:55.08 | hark | elnovatillo: set it via kcontrol |
| 20:55.12 | parsek_77 | Supaplex: do you whether OO is using their own pdf writer or not? |
| 20:55.15 | Supaplex | parsek_77: I don't know what to say. I had the OO dev snapshot from just a few weeks ago, so maybe they have a patch? |
| 20:55.19 | Supaplex | no idea |
| 20:55.21 | aksn | wols_, why should i use my country server? |
| 20:55.35 | Azar | aksn: you could use fr, de, uk whatever |
| 20:55.44 | parsek_77 | Supaplex: ok, thanks |
| 20:55.47 | Azar | aksn: go with the one that "just works" |
| 20:55.50 | streuner | kencausey: thats since months, so not that unusual ;-) |
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| 20:56.10 | kencausey | OK, I'm a bit out of the loop I guess |
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| 20:56.16 | dondelelcaro | streuner: no |
| 20:56.41 | aksn | Azar, i know, that's exactly the problem; after a fe days the server i use doesn't work, doesn't matter which one |
| 20:56.51 | kencausey | Next: what's up with locales in unstable? Depends on non-existing glibc-2.7.1 |
| 20:57.07 | Azar | aksn: how "many" servers did you tried ? |
| 20:57.39 | Azar | aksn: oh , you are using the testing version? |
| 20:57.55 | streuner | kencausey: locales in sid is from experimental... |
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| 20:58.11 | streuner | so you'll find a few bugs ;-) |
| 20:58.33 | Azar | aksn: testing all inclusive your patience man :) |
| 20:58.39 | xingu | streuner: the first being, it's not really installable :) |
| 20:58.41 | dondelelcaro | it's not really that; it's that the glibc was partially uploaded there (on purpose) |
| 20:58.53 | dondelelcaro | there was an anouncement made about it about 12 days ago |
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| 21:01.29 | streuner | hm |
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| 21:02.51 | streuner | dondelelcaro: so how it come, that nobody used that in the past? |
| 21:03.55 | elnovatillo | i cant find in kcontrol where to put the firefox browser as default |
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| 21:05.00 | Yorlik | Sorry for asking again - but I don't have an answer yet and am kinda stalled here: What again was the command to restart the basic settings, like locales, keyboard, timezone and such ? Formerly it was base-config, just don't know how it works these days. (etch) |
| 21:05.11 | dondelelcaro | streuner: you'd have to ask nobody |
| 21:05.18 | elnovatillo | DAMMIT, who idea was to chaneg the name from Firefox to iceweasel !!! |
| 21:05.40 | dondelelcaro | elnovatillo: the Mozilla Foundation's. |
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| 21:05.57 | elnovatillo | bloody soopy wankers... |
| 21:06.48 | Yorlik | As long as Bill Gates doesn#t decide to rename Windows to Windux its all okay .... |
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| 21:08.05 | streuner | elnovatillo: in Debian you make that on the cli |
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| 21:09.34 | Ahmadinejad | I've successfully installed the JDK, but Iceweasel don't runs Java applets, what do I've to do? |
| 21:09.52 | Yorlik | Theres an add-on you still need to download |
| 21:10.11 | Ahmadinejad | From SUN or the debian package manager? |
| 21:10.19 | Yorlik | For firefox |
| 21:11.04 | Yorlik | No - wait .. its a .deb |
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| 21:11.04 | elnovatillo | Ahmadinejad: installed java? did you throught APT ? |
| 21:11.04 | Yorlik | Just can#t remember the name |
| 21:11.19 | hobbzilla | QQ: Easy way to find out what version of a package I have installed? (i.e. rpm -q for RHEL systems -- I'm pretty novice @ debian) |
| 21:11.19 | Ahmadinejad | elnovatillo: I downloaded it from SUN |
| 21:11.27 | Yorlik | Whats the replacement for base-config after the system was installed again ... I can't fnd out that damned scripts name. |
| 21:11.39 | elnovatillo | Ahmadinejad: you ned to insatll through aptitude or apt!!! |
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| 21:11.59 | Daemon | anyone about who can help me get etch onto a dell poweredge 1950 ? |
| 21:12.08 | Ahmadinejad | elnovatillo: I don't remember exact how, but it compiles well my Java code |
| 21:12.11 | Ahmadinejad | And run it too |
| 21:12.29 | Ahmadinejad | Only Iceweasel have problems in running applets |
| 21:12.29 | elnovatillo | Ahmadinejad: use java debian package, dont use sun |
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| 21:13.12 | Ahmadinejad | elnovatillo: I thought Java wasnt distributed with Debian... |
| 21:13.34 | elnovatillo | i just installed java through lenny ...seems somebody packed |
| 21:13.41 | elnovatillo | but the lazzy basterds forgot to pack VLC |
| 21:14.01 | dondelelcaro | elnovatillo: I already told you why vlc isn't in testing; if you want it to be, resolve those problems. |
| 21:14.31 | elnovatillo | im just kidding.. come on |
| 21:15.13 | hark | hobbzilla: dpkg -l foo |
| 21:16.35 | hobbzilla | hark: okay I've performed "dpkg -l hylafax" and I get "No packages found matching hylafax." |
| 21:16.42 | hobbzilla | I know it was installed via apt-get |
| 21:16.59 | hobbzilla | and for whatever reason Hylafax doesn't have a version file or anything that I can tell. |
| 21:17.23 | streuner | elnovatillo: just use something else which is in lenny, xine for example |
| 21:17.40 | \amethyst | hobbzilla: hylafax-client and hylafax-server |
| 21:17.41 | streuner | elnovatillo: or /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 21:17.41 | hark | hobbzilla: dpkg -l |grep hylafax (for the actual package name) |
| 21:17.46 | elnovatillo | xine is crashing... dunno why... and now the image of the movie is totally distorted.. |
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| 21:18.11 | streuner | where did you get this deb? |
| 21:18.24 | streuner | from* |
| 21:18.36 | dennis11527573 | I made a gigabit nework and changed the mtu to 7200 to get jumbo frames on a realtek 8169 chipset still slowr speed then 100mbit network |
| 21:18.40 | hobbzilla | ahh that was it. I didn't realize dpkg -l listed all. |
| 21:18.42 | hobbzilla | thanks. |
| 21:18.50 | streuner | !info mplayer lenny |
| 21:18.55 | dpkg | mplayer: (The Movie Player), section graphics, is optional. Version: 1.0~rc2-4 (lenny), Packaged size: 4929 kB, Installed size: 10404 kB |
| 21:19.04 | abrotman | hobbzilla: dpkg -l hyla* |
| 21:19.10 | elnovatillo | okok instllnig mplayer |
| 21:19.14 | \amethyst | dennis11527573: slower in what way? latency, throughput, both? |
| 21:19.19 | elnovatillo | dammit i have all players.. none works |
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| 21:19.38 | dennis11527573 | \amethyst speed i getting 5 MiB/s |
| 21:19.46 | wols_ | aksn: cause you waste traffic without a reason |
| 21:20.05 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:21.19 | spq | which kinds of passwords does linux support? |
| 21:21.51 | \amethyst | spq: what do you mean by 'linux'? |
| 21:21.59 | spq | pam |
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| 21:22.32 | spq | Linux-PAM 0.74 |
| 21:22.45 | hobbzilla | Does anyone use or have experience with Hylafax? |
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| 21:23.18 | abrotman | hobbzilla: i do .. but it's been awhile .. what's up ? |
| 21:23.20 | hobbzilla | It appears I'm having some transmission problems with certain recepients. |
| 21:23.44 | abrotman | hobbzilla: can you verify it's your problem and not theirs? |
| 21:23.52 | hobbzilla | Yes. |
| 21:24.04 | hobbzilla | I've sent them faxes via regular fax machine and it goes through fine. |
| 21:24.05 | abrotman | and you've checked the faq-o-matic at the hylafax site? |
| 21:24.13 | hobbzilla | efax /mgetty+sendfax worked without issue. |
| 21:24.23 | abrotman | the docs for hylafax are iffy/spotty/crappy |
| 21:24.35 | dennis11527573 | I made a gigabit nework and changed the mtu to 7200 to get jumbo frames on a realtek 8169 chipset still slowr speed then 100mbit network |
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| 21:24.40 | hobbzilla | I've looked all over Hylafax's site. |
| 21:24.41 | abrotman | hobbzilla: doyou have an error on your end? |
| 21:24.55 | \amethyst | spq: glibc's crypt(3) supports traditional crypt (max of 8 7-bit characters) and md5 |
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| 21:25.00 | hobbzilla | There are quite a few posts for 1/2 page transmission problems.. none worth much. |
| 21:25.03 | \amethyst | spq: that applies if you're using pam_unix |
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| 21:25.11 | hobbzilla | There are some errors reported. |
| 21:25.20 | mikefoo | How would I remove email from mailq? certain emails only, I know the to address. Anyone know? |
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| 21:25.31 | hobbzilla | Then the job retries and says it was successful. |
| 21:25.38 | \amethyst | spq: md5-crypted passwords can be longer than 8 characters |
| 21:25.40 | abrotman | hobbzilla: i'll note that we use ours almost exclusively for recieving .. barely any sending at all |
| 21:25.46 | somiaj | doing an upgrade in sid, and libc6 for amd64 is failing the MD5Sum from ftp.us.debian.org, am courious where to report this and maybe finding out if it is just a server error from the mirror I'm using, or something more. |
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| 21:25.57 | \amethyst | spq: if you use a different pam module, it depends on what's doing the authentication |
| 21:26.09 | abrotman | http://www.hylafax.org/site2/HylaFAQ/index.html#Trouble |
| 21:26.13 | abrotman | you checked the odl FAQ ? |
| 21:26.22 | Tramp | spq: and "DEC C2" - whatever that is |
| 21:26.32 | hobbzilla | abrotman: yeah. I also just paid $495 to iFax. |
| 21:26.35 | \amethyst | somiaj: which version of libc6 is it? |
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| 21:26.46 | Kiowas | hello |
| 21:26.48 | hobbzilla | abrotman: They won't be with me until Friday (apparently that is what $500 gets you) |
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| 21:27.01 | Kiowas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:27.20 | abrotman | hobbzilla: oh .. so you won't even be using hylafax soon |
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| 21:27.27 | abrotman | Kiowas: dd is more likely |
| 21:27.43 | Golumn | someone may help me, I am trying to mount a ntfs particion that is on /dev/sda2 |
| 21:27.56 | Golumn | I already install libntfs but it can't recognize it |
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| 21:28.28 | somiaj | \amethyst: libc6_2.6.1-6_amd64.deb |
| 21:28.29 | hobbzilla | abrotman: No the $500 to iFax was for Hylafax support! |
| 21:28.34 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 21:28.40 | abrotman | i thought ifax was a product |
| 21:28.51 | hobbzilla | abrotman: iFax is the sponsor of Hylafax. |
| 21:28.56 | Kiowas | abrotman, the manpage for dd says it converts and copies files. There are no files on the drive. I want to copy the physical data written on it regardless of whether linux can understand what it is |
| 21:28.58 | abrotman | hobbzilla: it took me quite a few tries to get hylafax to work correctly .. |
| 21:29.11 | abrotman | Kiowas: /dev/sdc is technically a file |
| 21:29.16 | \amethyst | Kiowas: then the "file" you want to copy is the device |
| 21:29.33 | abrotman | Kiowas: in unix .. everything is a file \o/ |
| 21:29.42 | Kiowas | oh. ok |
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| 21:29.58 | Kiowas | so, what would the correct commandline look like then? and why wouldn't cat work? |
| 21:30.02 | hobbzilla | abrotman: Yeah I've been working on Hylafax now for almost a month. We are using it to send roughly 1,000 faxes a day. |
| 21:30.11 | Golumn | someone may help me with that |
| 21:30.14 | abrotman | whoa .. that's way more than we use it .. |
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| 21:30.20 | hobbzilla | abrotman: We have a 93% success rate - reported success. |
| 21:30.31 | abrotman | my boss just got sick of autoprinting junk faxes :) |
| 21:30.42 | dennis11527573 | Mine gigabit network is slower then mu 100mbit network can somebody please help me |
| 21:30.57 | abrotman | mii-tool says it's GbE ? |
| 21:31.00 | abrotman | or ethtool ? |
| 21:31.22 | jduggan | dont think mii-tool supports gbe? |
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| 21:31.35 | jduggan | need ethtool :) |
| 21:32.03 | abrotman | sorry .. i don't all that fancy hardware! |
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| 21:32.32 | elnovatillo | iphone is fancy |
| 21:32.34 | jduggan | haha nod |
| 21:32.35 | bitprophet_ | have fun buying ram for that PB abrotman :D |
| 21:34.31 | abrotman | bitprophet_: you don't have a stack of EDO laying around too? :) |
| 21:35.14 | bitprophet_ | not anymore, my PB died about 4 years ago |
| 21:35.43 | bitprophet_ | think my parents took it to the dump last year sometime after I gave them the OK to clear out the assorted dead/obsolete hardware from my old room, heh. |
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| 21:39.05 | dennis11527573 | for better network speeds doe i need to use the kernel r8169 or is the realtekone better? |
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| 21:45.55 | Azar | dennis11527573: 8169too? |
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| 21:49.34 | Azar | interesting comment re: udev on kerneltrap: " I notice even Debian is trying to force usage of this "udev" garbage, so I will have a "clean" (but broken) /dev directory" /Azar does not have udev yet |
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| 21:51.19 | Azar | it says that his udev installed the incorrect 8139cp driver instead of 8139too |
| 21:51.30 | chops | Azar: You have a link handy? |
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| 21:51.48 | elnovatillo | does Wine can run PHOTOshop Cs3? |
| 21:52.02 | Azar | chops: I follow this discussion about drivers and udev, not particularily Debian http://kerneltrap.org/node/14487 |
| 21:52.12 | somiaj | elnovatillo: check wines page, they have a good list of what runs good, though I think crossover office is better for photoshop and office apps. |
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| 21:53.51 | abrotman | elvedin: check winehq.org |
| 21:53.56 | chops | Azar: Hm, I've never had a problem with udev (though I wasn't fond of devfs). Debian doesn't force usage of it AFAIK, though; you can just uninstall it and have a static /dev directory. Or has that changed? |
| 21:54.13 | abrotman | chops: i think it forces it now |
| 21:54.29 | Azar | chops: I guess Etch must have it |
| 21:54.59 | abrotman | sarge also has udev .. but it's not required |
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| 21:55.12 | Azar | so , following the what they say at kerneltrap, it would suggest that admin fix the /dev manually |
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| 21:55.35 | Azar | or at least check it for errors |
| 21:55.44 | elnovatillo | donto forget to mention "Pack VLC for lenny" |
| 21:55.50 | izzyb | how do I tell what version of debian I'm running |
| 21:55.53 | chops | abrotman: 'aptitude remove udev' doesn't complain on my random etch system. It wants to replace initramfs-tools with yaird when removing udev, but otherwise seems to be willing to do it. |
| 21:56.02 | Azar | :) mister abrotman, nice seeing you again :) |
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| 21:56.33 | Azar | chops: and if so , how would your system perform afterwards? |
| 21:56.42 | somiaj | izzyb: check the file /etc/debian_version. Now if it says testing/unstable there are a wid possibilities you are running |
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| 21:57.08 | izzyb | says 4.0 |
| 21:57.21 | somiaj | izzyb: so that is the version your running |
| 21:57.43 | Seivan| | I was thinking of runnin debian as a router and firewal |
| 21:57.47 | Seivan| | what applications do i need for that |
| 21:57.47 | izzyb | apt-sources is configured for stable, but i'm not sure whichh version it was |
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| 21:57.57 | izzyb | what's the code name for version 4.0 then? |
| 21:58.13 | abrotman | etch |
| 21:58.24 | chops | Azar: *shrug* I'm not sure -- I like udev, as I said earlier. You're the one who were repeating a complaint use of it being forced unnecessarily. I imagine that a lot of hotplug-related things wouldn't work so well. |
| 21:58.27 | izzyb | 4.0 is etch? |
| 21:58.29 | somiaj | izzyb: I belive 4.0 is etch, the current version, though there is now a 4.0r1 as mentioned int eh /topic |
| 21:58.30 | abrotman | yes |
| 21:58.32 | abrotman | !etch |
| 21:58.33 | dpkg | Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>). |
| 21:58.41 | lepine | !monodevelop |
| 21:58.44 | izzyb | k, thanks |
| 21:58.55 | ale777 | does anyone know how to escape a dot in bash? i want to do ls .* to show all the dot files of the current directory. i tried ls \.* but it does not work. thank you. |
| 21:59.02 | Azar | chops: exactly, I don't think it will work without udev, and for Etch or higher kernels I don't think there is an alternative |
| 21:59.29 | somiaj | Sipingal: You can do most of a firewall router from a base install and iptables |
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| 21:59.44 | somiaj | Seivan|: ^^ was to you |
| 21:59.55 | somiaj | Sipingal: sorry, mistype tabcomplition error. |
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| 22:00.08 | chops | Azar: Why wouldn't it work? Trying to use aptitude to remove things which will break your system, and having aptitude not complain, would be a serious system bug. I'm inclined to assume that it works because aptitude isn't complaining for me. |
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| 22:00.47 | abrotman | ale777: you could ask #bash .. wihtout looking too much into it .. `ls -a | egrep "^\."` |
| 22:00.51 | Seivan| | somiaj ehm didnt understand :) |
| 22:01.03 | Seivan| | somiaj what does iptable to, acting firewall or routing packets= |
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| 22:04.10 | dennis11527573 | can somebody help me with my network. Its a gigabit network wth speeds as slow as 3MiB/s |
| 22:04.17 | abrotman | dennis11527573: a few people have asked you quetsions .. which you've ignored |
| 22:04.18 | Tramp | ale777: you may want something like "ls -ld \.*" or "ls -ld .??*" |
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| 22:04.28 | Azar | yess!! "...the commercial success of Linux may owe more to the Debian community than advocates of Linux in the enterprise are ever likely to acknowledge..." Linus should take note of this |
| 22:04.35 | chops | Azar: I have to say I think the kerneltrap guy's logic is a bit flawed. "I, a human, can easily figure out what needs to be done, and what needs to be done is simple. Therefore, figuring out what's to be done must be easy, and this program which isn't figuring it out must be stupid and broken, and I'm going to complain." |
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| 22:04.44 | chops | Azar: Of course, my network works, which makes it easy for me to be mellow :-) |
| 22:04.48 | dennis11527573 | abrotman ...euh yeah ...i saw that my network was out so i missed a lot on the chat screen |
| 22:05.22 | Tramp | ale777: The "\" is bogus anyways, the "." is not a wildcard for bash |
| 22:05.30 | Azar | chops: I just bumped into that discussion just because I googled for 8169too to see whats new :) not because I favor one of other of the posters |
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| 22:05.54 | somiaj | Seivan|: iptables is the new interface for setting up routing rules for the linux kernel |
| 22:05.55 | Maenad | tomaw: heya! whats crackin |
| 22:06.09 | Azar | chops: and, since I haven't try udev yet, I was a bit impressed by what the guys are saying about it |
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| 22:06.28 | wols_ | somiaj: please don't talk about such things |
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| 22:06.40 | somiaj | wols_: ?? |
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| 22:06.45 | dennis11527573 | what is the diffrence between the kernel driver of the 8169 chipset and the realtek one? |
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| 22:06.47 | Azar | pr0n? |
| 22:06.50 | wols_ | Seivan|: it's for firewalls, not for routing |
| 22:07.01 | wols_ | dennis11527573: one of them is free |
| 22:07.29 | wols_ | Seivan|: iptables/netfilter has nothing to do with routing |
| 22:07.43 | dennis11527573 | wols_ and the realtek is better in speeds? |
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| 22:07.55 | wols_ | dennis11527573: we don't support the realtek one. ask someone else |
| 22:08.28 | wols_ | dennis11527573: and you've been already told what you could do/why you experience what you do |
| 22:08.32 | Azar | dennis11527573: Debian uses the free realtek drivers, the xxxx.too. If you want to use the proprietary one, you fix it when breaks, don't ask here |
| 22:08.40 | Seivan| | wols_ what do I use for making a computer with debian to a router |
| 22:08.40 | hobbzilla | If anyone is familar with Hylafax and has a moment I'm trying to trouble shoot a transmission issue. Here is the job log: http://pastebin.com/m796f6454 |
| 22:08.57 | wols_ | !tell Seivan| about ipmasq |
| 22:09.22 | Seivan| | Oh yeah I had some other questions if you dont mind |
| 22:09.28 | ale777 | abrotman: thank you |
| 22:09.33 | Seivan| | thanks wols_ but |
| 22:09.42 | Seivan| | What is the difference between aptitude and apt-get some people help me by saying apt-get install and others with aptitude |
| 22:09.58 | wols_ | !why aptitude |
| 22:09.58 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info |
| 22:10.14 | wols_ | apt-get existed before aptitude so some people still use it out of habit |
| 22:10.34 | HNS | it middleware |
| 22:10.37 | HNS | is |
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| 22:10.45 | bitprophet_ | real men use dselect |
| 22:10.58 | ale777 | when i start my linux box, i get a welcome screen on my terminal. how can i remove/customize this splash screen? |
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| 22:11.04 | HNS | middleware is a buzzword :) |
| 22:11.26 | wols_ | HNS: how is this debian related? |
| 22:11.38 | jelly-home | HNS: in this case, middleware rules. |
| 22:11.41 | HNS | uh oh |
| 22:11.43 | Azar | Interesting article http://www.itpro.co.uk/features/135084/debian-and-the-grass-roots-of-linux.html |
| 22:11.50 | bitprophet_ | ale777: depends on how you installed Linux and what distro it was (if it's not Debian you should probably go elsewhere ;)) |
| 22:11.53 | dennis11527573 | Azar i want to know why my gigabit is a 10mbit network .....i really don't wanna use the realtek one but it' my only option |
| 22:12.02 | bitprophet_ | it's probably a program called "gdm" or "kdm" and if you google around for those you should find something |
| 22:12.07 | bitprophet_ | gdm is for Gnome, kdm is for KDE |
| 22:12.14 | HNS | I hope I don't get into an irc brawl with any admin horny channelops |
| 22:12.14 | bitprophet_ | (generally) |
| 22:12.20 | HNS | tonight |
| 22:12.27 | Seivan| | wols_ but apt-get has been updated |
| 22:12.30 | Seivan| | wols_ to do the same |
| 22:12.37 | wols_ | Seivan|: in sid |
| 22:12.43 | wols_ | not in a released debian |
| 22:12.44 | Azar | dennis11527573: hmmm I would wildly guess you could ask your provider about this? |
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| 22:13.06 | dennis11527573 | Azar my provider??? for a local lan? |
| 22:13.07 | Azar | I don't think is an ethernet card's fault for poor bandwidth? |
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| 22:13.25 | wols_ | Azar: ever used realtek cards? |
| 22:13.34 | rocketmagnet | hi, does someone know why the 'skype' install does not let me 'Sign up' when i have filled in all fields for a new user ? |
| 22:13.35 | Azar | wols_: I am on them ( all my PCs) |
| 22:13.39 | bitprophet_ | Azar: "when real programmers rode on the metal and coded in the buff" <--horrible mental image, that |
| 22:13.42 | Seivan| | wols_ what version is the stable one |
| 22:13.52 | wols_ | Seivan|: debian 4.0 |
| 22:13.55 | Seivan| | wols_ what version is this: debian-40r1-i386-netinst |
| 22:13.55 | Azar | bitprophet_: yeah, kind of.... rusty? |
| 22:13.57 | Seivan| | is this sid ? |
| 22:14.07 | wols_ | Seivan|: no this is debian 4.0 etch |
| 22:14.23 | hobbzilla | Do you want buzzwords? Try this site: http://www.andrewdavidson.com/gibberish/ (funny stuff) |
| 22:14.36 | wols_ | Seivan|: and this hasn't an updated apt-get |
| 22:14.48 | Azar | wols_, dennis11527573 All my ethernet cards are realtek ones, I am using the Debian's free drivers and I never exceed or fall below what my bandwidth allocation is |
| 22:15.23 | wols_ | a relatek card rarely if ever runs at full line speed on the application side |
| 22:15.31 | dennis11527573 | Azar can you help me to find why i only reach 3 MiB/ (slower them my 100mbit router) on a gigibait switch? |
| 22:16.04 | wols_ | dennis11527573: you STILL haven't said how you came to this conclusion |
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| 22:16.11 | Seivan| | wols_ is sid unstable |
| 22:16.13 | Azar | dennis11527573: oh, man, you got lots more than I have.... so I would guess I am on my bandwidth limits with realtek |
| 22:16.18 | wols_ | Seivan|: yes |
| 22:16.19 | Ronin | Seivan|: always is was and will be |
| 22:16.29 | Seivan| | Ronin what? |
| 22:16.34 | Seivan| | wols_ can I update apt-get in Etch? |
| 22:16.43 | wols_ | Seivan|: to what? |
| 22:16.45 | Azar | wols_: < dennis11527573> Azar i want to know why my gigabit is a 10mbit network |
| 22:17.04 | Seivan| | wols_ can I update apt-get in etc so it does the same things as in Sid |
| 22:17.04 | dennis11527573 | wols_ i connected the gigabit only on the switch and did a transfer which show low speed |
| 22:17.18 | wols_ | dennis11527573: that is useless |
| 22:17.24 | wols_ | Seivan|: no |
| 22:17.55 | dennis11527573 | wols_ useless? |
| 22:17.57 | Seivan| | wols_ is unstable enough to use as a server without X? |
| 22:17.58 | Azar | Seivan|: you can only go >> up up >> in versions, never back << down down << |
| 22:17.58 | Ronin | Seivan|: sid is unstable, always is always will be |
| 22:18.08 | wols_ | Seivan|: no |
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| 22:18.20 | wols_ | !unstable |
| 22:18.21 | dpkg | from memory, unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>. |
| 22:18.34 | Seivan| | Azar yeah thats what i said, can I update Apt-get in etch to do as it does in sid |
| 22:18.42 | Seivan| | Azar Ronin wols_ so apt-get autoremove ppurge works |
| 22:18.58 | Azar | Seivan|: if you want stability, security, use Etch. If you want latest , untested, buggy software, use Sid |
| 22:19.13 | wols_ | Seivan|: and if you use sid: solve your own problems |
| 22:19.17 | Seivan| | Azar I just want a server without GUI |
| 22:19.20 | somiaj | Seivan|: If you just want a computer for a router, etch will be more than enough for you. There is no reason you should need Sid, it will only add unwanted problems. |
| 22:19.20 | dennis11527573 | PS is the r816 driver not broken after 2.6.19? |
| 22:19.27 | Seivan| | no server |
| 22:19.30 | Seivan| | somiaj server |
| 22:19.49 | Seivan| | Like.. apache php, mysql, phpmyadmin, openSSH server and openSSH client and no-ip that is it! |
| 22:19.50 | somiaj | Seivan|: ok server, it will still be the choice you want. |
| 22:19.54 | Seivan| | nothing else |
| 22:20.06 | Azar | Seivan|: you should learn about the packaging system (apt, dpkg) before you say that. apt is looking for packages in ONE location that belongs to the Version of your Debian System. Apt will never look for packages in Sid if you run Etch. Or viceversa |
| 22:20.09 | bitprophet_ | Seivan|: the common wisdom is that you should always run the stable version of $distro_of_choice unless there is something in unstable that you know you have a pressing need for (e.g. "I must have Apache 2.2!" or "I must have Compiz!") |
| 22:20.33 | abrotman | apache2.2 is in etch |
| 22:20.44 | Azar | Seivan|: so: you run Etch, apt will ONLY bring you packages that belong to Etch. |
| 22:20.45 | Seivan| | bitprophet_ cool roger but i must have an apt-get that does autoremove so... :( |
| 22:20.54 | Seivan| | Azar unless I add to the sources.list |
| 22:20.56 | wols_ | Seivan|: why? |
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| 22:21.20 | bitprophet_ | Seivan|: AFAIK there is no difference in apt-get/aptitude functionality between stable and unstable right now |
| 22:21.23 | wols_ | is there a reason you're unable to use aptitude? |
| 22:21.23 | Azar | Seivan|: which is not recommended: you bring packages from another version will conflict with your Version |
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| 22:21.33 | abrotman | Seivan|: use aptitude |
| 22:21.45 | Seivan| | abrotman but it looks advanced... |
| 22:21.47 | Seivan| | for example |
| 22:21.49 | Seivan| | how do you do |
| 22:21.56 | abrotman | Seivan|: you don't have to use the ncurses gui |
| 22:21.58 | Seivan| | apt-get autoremove --purge in aptitude |
| 22:21.59 | Azar | oh my god!!! the teachers recommend "aptitude" , I feel so blessed and happy! |
| 22:22.00 | abrotman | i certainly don't |
| 22:22.13 | abrotman | Seivan|: aptitude remove <pkg you intsalled that pulled all the other stuff> |
| 22:22.27 | Azar | Seivan|: aptitude install, aptitude update, aptitude upgrade, aptitude remove |
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| 22:22.40 | Azar | waht is so advanced? |
| 22:22.45 | Seivan| | abrotman what about configureation files in /: |
| 22:23.02 | abrotman | Seivan|: you can purge too .. but afaik .. apt-get autoremove doesn't remove conf files either |
| 22:23.12 | Seivan| | abrotman but --purge does |
| 22:23.12 | dennis11527573 | Azar which debian do you use? |
| 22:23.13 | abrotman | conf files are tiny compared to other bits |
| 22:23.17 | wols_ | Seivan|: aptitude --purge remove stuff |
| 22:23.22 | Azar | dennis11527573: Debian 3.1, Sarge |
| 22:23.42 | Seivan| | wols_ cool |
| 22:23.54 | wols_ | Seivan|: you have no reason not to use aptitude |
| 22:24.00 | Eulex | Seivan|, most apt-get commands work with aptitude too. so you can aptitude install something, or aptitude remove something. |
| 22:24.08 | dennis11527573 | Azar okay running lenny here. And i think here is a bg in kernel 2.6.19 and higer if i read the bug report |
| 22:24.16 | abrotman | wols_: aptitude purge ? |
| 22:24.21 | Seivan| | I was told that using aptitude and apt-get was fighting together |
| 22:24.46 | Azar | Seivan|: if you also want to know more about aptitude check this: less /usr/share/doc/aptitude and look for README file, is really cool |
| 22:24.57 | Seivan| | Im in windows atm |
| 22:25.04 | Seivan| | I was wondering something |
| 22:25.04 | wols_ | abrotman: or that |
| 22:25.23 | Azar | Seivan|: they don't "fight" is just that what you install with one , might not be "seen" by the other when you try to remove |
| 22:25.32 | Seivan| | Azar okay cool |
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| 22:25.37 | Seivan| | Ehm what if I want to give someone a shell that he can SSH to |
| 22:25.51 | Seivan| | but he has limited acces, cant install and stuff and just got his folder like /home/user |
| 22:25.52 | Ronin | Seivan|: oh thats not a good idea |
| 22:26.00 | Seivan| | Why not Ronin ? |
| 22:26.20 | Ronin | giving access to total strangers? |
| 22:26.25 | Seivan| | no friends |
| 22:26.25 | Ronin | limited or otherwise |
| 22:26.29 | somiaj | Seivan|: well a normal user can't install stuff, but they can run binaries, so if you give them access to /home/user they can put binaries, and run them. |
| 22:26.29 | Seivan| | limited |
| 22:26.30 | Seivan| | very limited |
| 22:26.34 | Azar | friends until no more heh? |
| 22:26.43 | Seivan| | hehe :) |
| 22:26.43 | wols_ | Seivan|: you can't reallylimit |
| 22:26.49 | Seivan| | I mean how much can I limit |
| 22:26.59 | Seivan| | I want them to be able to put their websites there (php and mysql9 and also give a phpmyadmin account |
| 22:27.18 | somiaj | Seivan|: the most you can limit is that they can only write files to their home dir (which is normal), but they could mess up your system by running binaries or compiling code (if you have gcc on your system) |
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| 22:27.31 | Seivan| | I will remove GCC |
| 22:27.35 | Seivan| | its just gonna be a server |
| 22:27.37 | Seivan| | GCC |
| 22:27.43 | Seivan| | webserver that is |
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| 22:27.47 | wols_ | Seivan|: why do you want to give them a shell? |
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| 22:28.01 | Seivan| | wols_ so they can learn and use irssi and stuff |
| 22:28.08 | abrotman | cause it's a webserver! |
| 22:28.12 | somiaj | Seivan|: well giving shell access is more than you want, so give them ftp, or sftp access so they can have webpages and stuff but not acually run binaries |
| 22:28.13 | wols_ | Seivan|: then security goes out the window |
| 22:28.38 | Seivan| | somiaj openSSH does that, right? |
| 22:29.16 | Seivan| | I kinda have to get to bed now, thanks for the help guys really appriciate it, however I will return! :) |
| 22:29.27 | Seivan| | Bye, and cya guys =) take care |
| 22:29.39 | drc | if you want them to be able to put up websited etc, dont give them shell rights |
| 22:29.48 | Seivan| | drc I have to think about it |
| 22:29.51 | Seivan| | cya |
| 22:30.25 | Ronin | anyone else think there goes another owned machine? ;) |
| 22:30.50 | abrotman | Ronin: it's not mine? :) |
| 22:30.56 | Ronin | heh |
| 22:31.37 | ale777 | comment fair |
| 22:31.43 | ale777 | where is the instruction that shows /etc/motd? |
| 22:31.49 | Tramp | Ronin: He may learn a lot about both security and friendship in the course. |
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| 22:32.17 | mick_work | hi everyone - how can i see what a usb device is doing in debian (on windows there is usbsnoop) -- apt-cache doesn't show me much besides usbview |
| 22:32.24 | \amethyst | ale777: motd is displayed by login |
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| 22:32.31 | computer12345 | programmers and engineers wanted for an open source group of 9,000 + members. visit The International open source free energy research forum @ www.OverUnity.com |
| 22:32.38 | \amethyst | ale777: and perhaps other programs like sshd |
| 22:32.47 | \amethyst | WTF? |
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| 22:33.08 | \amethyst | that makes my science hurt |
| 22:33.08 | Tramp | ale777: grep for motd in /etc/pam.d |
| 22:33.29 | mick_work | usbview seems to just be a pretty way of cat'ing /proc/bus/usb/devices |
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| 22:35.04 | ale777 | thank you all :) |
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| 22:37.29 | Blirlack | hi |
| 22:37.54 | Blirlack | how to change so i can add "fi_FI" to my locale ? |
| 22:38.43 | chops | Blirlack: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 22:39.59 | Blirlack | that only says: Generating locales... |
| 22:40.00 | Blirlack | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.00 | Blirlack | Generation complete. |
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| 22:42.15 | Skaag | can I somehow fsck a disk file instead of a device? |
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| 22:42.55 | chops | Blirlack: That's odd. It's supposed to ask what locales you want. Try 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf' and see if your priority is set too high... er, but that dialog then says, "Note that no matter what level you pick here, you will be able to see every question if you reconfigure a package with dpkg-reconfigure." |
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| 22:43.12 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales |
| 22:43.15 | K|NgGh0sT | Anyone have experience with the deblive cd? I'm trying to fix my GRUB |
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| 22:44.32 | bitprophet_ | Skaag: what exactly is a disk file in this context? |
| 22:44.52 | Skaag | a file that contains an ext3 filesystem, which I can mount with -o loop |
| 22:45.04 | Skaag | how do I fsck such a file based filesystem? |
| 22:45.44 | bitprophet_ | good question |
| 22:45.48 | bitprophet_ | man fsck isn't helping? |
| 22:45.52 | bitprophet_ | I've never had to do such a thing before |
| 22:46.10 | Skaag | me neither, I know it's odd... |
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| 22:46.47 | Skaag | I guess I have to mount it |
| 22:47.24 | Tramp | Skaag: hmm, not sure, but after losetup /dev/loop/whaever should be the block-device to fsck |
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| 22:47.46 | Tramp | Skaag: i.e. before you mount the loop-device |
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| 22:49.21 | Skaag | fsck.ext3: Is a directory while trying to open /mnt |
| 22:49.42 | Tramp | Skaag: did you try what I said? |
| 22:49.50 | K|NgGh0sT | How come fdisk -l will show all my partitions but when I goto mount them, it says "Special device /dev/sda1 doesnt not exist" |
| 22:49.51 | Skaag | ah, it is on /dev/loop4 |
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| 22:50.08 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: What does 'ls /dev/sda1' say? |
| 22:50.11 | Skaag | yes that works |
| 22:50.17 | Skaag | fsck works on the direct loop device |
| 22:50.18 | Tramp | Skaag: yeah. but I would umount it first. |
| 22:50.30 | Skaag | if I unmount it, how do I fsck it? |
| 22:50.36 | K|NgGh0sT | chops, its not there... |
| 22:50.38 | Skaag | it's a file..! ;-) |
| 22:50.40 | Tramp | Skaag: you umount. Then you losetup |
| 22:50.42 | chops | Skaag: Though the loop device |
| 22:50.50 | chops | Skaag: /dev/loop4 or whatever |
| 22:50.55 | Tramp | Skaag: what exactly is unclear? |
| 22:50.55 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: There's your problem, then :-) |
| 22:51.01 | Skaag | I guess I never used losetup |
| 22:51.04 | K|NgGh0sT | how can I fix this? |
| 22:51.05 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: Are you using udev? |
| 22:51.16 | Tramp | Skaag: Yeah. man is your friend then 8) |
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| 22:51.29 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: Is there anything funny about your /dev directory or the way you booted or anything? |
| 22:51.49 | K|NgGh0sT | chops, I'm using the debian livecd to fix grub |
| 22:52.14 | Skaag | it works |
| 22:52.18 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: So you're booted into the livecd currently? What is /dev, a tmpfs? |
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| 22:52.29 | Skaag | losetup is actually very simple to use |
| 22:52.36 | Skaag | I can even specific the loop device to use |
| 22:52.38 | Skaag | specify |
| 22:52.43 | K|NgGh0sT | chops, yes, I'm on the live cd. I would assume so |
| 22:53.21 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: You can try 'mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1' and see if the node it creates is then usable |
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| 22:53.55 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: You shouldn't have to fool around with making device nodes by hand on a modern system... but maybe the livecd made a mistake somehow (or maybe your disk isn't probably detected or something). |
| 22:54.06 | chops | *properly detected |
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| 22:54.25 | K|NgGh0sT | weird how fdisk would show the partitions though |
| 22:54.26 | ale777 | how to remove the last login msg in ssh login? it's not in /etc/pam.d/ssh. thank you. |
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| 22:55.10 | CyberGabber | I'm using Ice-Weasel on Debian, everythings looks good, exept website-images, they looks a liitle bit lower quality than under windows. Any idea ? |
| 22:55.47 | Tramp | ale777: grep for "last" in pam.d |
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| 22:56.22 | dondelelcaro | CyberGabber: that's almost certainly a function of gamma or possibly a placebo; the actual decoded images are going to be exactly the same |
| 22:56.28 | mike__ | Live cd installable? |
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| 22:57.14 | CyberGabber | dondelelcaro: Placebo, so in my imagination ?, or gamma : an technical issue with my video-setting? |
| 22:57.50 | dondelelcaro | CyberGabber: yes, or in that you have slightly different gamma settings for the monitor so they "appear" to be higher quality |
| 22:58.05 | dondelelcaro | CyberGabber: if you were to take screen shots in both of the same webpage and compare them, it should be illuminating. |
| 22:58.15 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: The device node existing is totally different from the disk being read and the partitions being acknowledged inside the kernel |
| 22:58.51 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: A properly set up system will always create the device nodes when it becomes aware of the partitions, and delete them if the partitions disappear for whatever reason (removed removable storage or whatever) |
| 22:58.59 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: But it's not un-heard of for things to go wrong :-) |
| 22:59.19 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: I'd say your disk isn't properly being read for some reason :-( |
| 22:59.29 | CyberGabber | dondelelcaro: Looks like you exactly hit the point. I will check you answer tomorrow.. |
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| 22:59.33 | alex88ita | hello |
| 22:59.40 | K|NgGh0sT | Well, I dont know how to fix this, I just need to mount /dev/sda1 and grub-install to it, but I don't know how |
| 23:00.01 | alex88ita | guys i have a problem |
| 23:00.11 | alex88ita | after a kernel recompiling session |
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| 23:00.34 | chops | K|NgGh0sT: Hm, grub has never been my strong suit, sorry |
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| 23:01.11 | alex88ita | i get this "refresh rate not supported" error |
| 23:01.18 | alex88ita | and i can't see anything else |
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| 23:02.24 | alex88ita | any idea? |
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| 23:03.27 | alex88 | alex |
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| 23:04.28 | alex88 | i get this error when i boot the system: 'refresh rate not supported' |
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| 23:04.53 | alex88 | i get the same error with single-mode user |
| 23:04.55 | corevette | is there a tutorial to get compiz fusion working on debian? |
| 23:04.59 | keith4_ | anything special i need to consider when putting detch on a 1G CF card? |
| 23:05.10 | keith4_ | .... detch = debian etch |
| 23:05.16 | keith4_ | or something |
| 23:05.37 | bzed | I'd get a 2GB card |
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| 23:06.16 | alex88 | bzed, do u have any idea about my problem? |
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| 23:07.43 | bzed | alex88: after a kernel recompiling session <<<<<<< just use the normal kernel, or a kernel from backports.org if you need a more recent one and have no clue. |
| 23:07.45 | keith4_ | bzed, i'm not worried about space... but about the underlying differences between a CF card and a real hard disk |
| 23:08.01 | bzed | keith4_: a CF in a IDE adapter shouldn't make a difference |
| 23:08.09 | bzed | at least none I know of |
| 23:08.20 | bzed | pretty common to do that for embedded devices |
| 23:08.23 | keith4_ | should I be worried about writing too often to the CF? |
| 23:08.37 | bzed | no clue |
| 23:08.43 | alex88 | yeah bzed i know but what i wanted to do recompile it :D |
| 23:09.02 | alex88 | and i actually did it... i probably forgot to include a module or so |
| 23:09.04 | bzed | alex88: then figure out by yourself what's wrong |
| 23:09.10 | bzed | alex88: or ask in #kernelnewbies |
| 23:09.23 | alex88 | why can't i just ask here |
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| 23:09.48 | alex88 | ? |
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| 23:10.16 | dasss | hi. what's the vi clone shipped with debian? |
| 23:10.28 | dkr | vim |
| 23:10.56 | bzed | vi ? |
| 23:11.05 | Tramp | dasss: vi --version may show you |
| 23:11.29 | alex88 | thanks anyway bzed |
| 23:11.30 | bzed | also that probably depends on which packages you've isntalled |
| 23:11.45 | bzed | there're several vi/vim related packages |
| 23:11.54 | dasss | i meant basic installation |
| 23:12.12 | dkr | so did I. vim-tiny is the package, to be exact |
| 23:12.34 | marvil07 | hi, is someone experimentig problems with lenny since the 5Nov update? especially X |
| 23:12.46 | dkr | I like the description, "Vim is an almost compatible version of the UNIX editor Vi" |
| 23:12.55 | bzed | dkr: yeah, but they have different configurations. vi --version helps :) |
| 23:13.15 | Ronin | marvil07: more specific would help |
| 23:13.15 | dasss | thanks |
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| 23:15.32 | marvil07 | hi Ronin , I am really trying to get the problem, but I could not isolate it... the specific problem is that X hang out after some minutes of use |
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| 23:16.56 | Skaag | is it possible my kernel will not automatically detect 4gb of ram and instead see only 2.5gb? |
| 23:17.00 | marvil07 | Ronin, i tried with diferent desktops, and different applications, but the problems persists |
| 23:17.11 | Skaag | and what does LowTotal mean in /proc/meminfo? |
| 23:17.18 | Skaag | because it's roughly 4gb of ram |
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| 23:19.33 | Xulfa | is this too much load? load average: 367.03, 346.04, 268.38 |
| 23:19.52 | Skaag | uh.... yes? ;-) |
| 23:19.58 | Skaag | 1.0 = 100% |
| 23:20.02 | Skaag | roughly |
| 23:20.06 | Xulfa | huh ? |
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| 23:20.19 | Xulfa | so I could I be around 300 ? |
| 23:20.33 | Ronin | marvil07: reconfigure x? |
| 23:20.37 | keith4_ | that's insane load |
| 23:21.02 | keith4_ | doesn't etch come with nvi? |
| 23:21.11 | Xulfa | what is nvi |
| 23:22.24 | Skaag | Xulfa: this load is absolutely insane man... what is your computer doing? |
| 23:22.44 | Xulfa | im not sure actually |
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| 23:23.20 | Skaag | maybe it is trying to find a cure for cancer? |
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| 23:23.41 | Xulfa | so its 300 times more then 100 percent utilization? |
| 23:23.48 | Skaag | yes |
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| 23:23.56 | Xulfa | that is odd |
| 23:23.57 | Skaag | but then again, in linux this is not exactly accurate |
| 23:24.15 | dondelelcaro | load is accurate for what it measures |
| 23:24.18 | Skaag | it's more about cpu time distribution and such things which I never had the patience to read about |
| 23:24.25 | Skaag | ;-) |
| 23:24.39 | Skaag | I didn't say the load itself it not accurate |
| 23:24.40 | dondelelcaro | it's just the average number of processes which are running or would like to run |
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| 23:25.11 | Skaag | I would like to read about it more in depth at some point, about scheduling, time slices, etc. |
| 23:25.11 | dondelelcaro | where "would like to run" includes processes which have made kernel calls which have not returned yet (IO wait, etc.) |
| 23:25.56 | Skaag | I believe it will help me better understand certain issues as they are occurring |
| 23:26.21 | Xulfa | actually I have like exim using all the cpu and ram |
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| 23:26.42 | TravellingSalesM | hello everyone, i've got a problem mounting CDs burnt in windows, they work fine in any computer under windows, but when i mount them in linux i can only see the files but i can not copy files (i get Input/Output error). any clue? |
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| 23:27.09 | keby200 | i need help dual booting xp on a vista computer without formating anything |
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| 23:27.38 | cool | i need help dual booting xp on a vista computer without formating anything |
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| 23:27.50 | cool | i need help dual booting xp on a vista computer without formating anything |
| 23:28.04 | wols_ | !tell cool about repeat |
| 23:28.11 | Skaag | Xulfa: maybe your machine is being used to spam 1 million emails per hour ;-) |
| 23:28.16 | Xulfa | in process list I have many of /usr/sbin/exim -Mc 1ipued-0005x81 but all of the numbers at the end are different.. I have hundreds or tens of thousands of these messages processes? |
| 23:28.18 | gribouille | hi |
| 23:28.37 | keith4_ | yikes |
| 23:28.41 | wols_ | Xulfa: check where those mails all go to |
| 23:28.47 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 23:28.48 | cool | sorry but can anybpdy help me |
| 23:28.49 | wols_ | zse yizr kigs |
| 23:28.55 | wols_ | *use your logs |
| 23:29.04 | Xulfa | if it is emailing the log should be filling my hard drive |
| 23:29.08 | Skaag | Xulfa: you must limit your exim somehow from spawning so many processes.. |
| 23:29.26 | wols_ | cool: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc |
| 23:29.38 | wols_ | Skaag: the question is why is he sending so many mails in the first place |
| 23:30.09 | Xulfa | im not sure im sending so many |
| 23:30.17 | Skaag | wols_: of course, but how can we know without a closer inspection |
| 23:30.23 | Xulfa | my main exim log doesn't show much |
| 23:30.29 | gribouille | I have s trange problem : I'm creating a deb package for a web site. this site contains configuration files for apache. these files go in the directory /etc/apache2/mysite. but when I install the package, nothing appears in /etc/apache2/mysite. any idea ? |
| 23:31.02 | wols_ | Xulfa: where are all those mails going to? |
| 23:31.03 | cool | i need help dual booting xp on a vista computer without formating anything |
| 23:31.12 | wols_ | !tell cool about repeat |
| 23:31.31 | wols_ | cool: since debian doesn't install on ntfs you will format something |
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| 23:32.02 | cool | what |
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| 23:32.19 | wols_ | cool: read the URL I gave you. follow it |
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| 23:33.11 | TravellingSalesM | hello everyone, i've got a problem mounting CDs burnt in windows, they work fine in any computer under windows, but when i mount them in linux i can only see the list of files but i can not copy files (i get Input/Output error). any clue? |
| 23:33.12 | jelly-home | cool: neither xp nor vista are supported here. Try ##windows |
| 23:33.39 | wols_ | TravellingSalesM: what filesystem on the CD? |
| 23:34.16 | somiaj | TravellingSalesM: if the cds are working fine, it could possibally be an acual hardware issue? or are you using the same cd drive on a dual boot machine? |
| 23:34.42 | TravellingSalesM | somiaj: i am using the same cd drive on a dual boot machine |
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| 23:35.24 | TravellingSalesM | wols_: i don't really know, the default file system that windows uses to write CDs, isn't it iso9660? |
| 23:35.51 | jelly-home | TravellingSalesM: which windows? it could be udf. |
| 23:36.07 | jelly-home | "packet writing" they call it afair |
| 23:36.59 | TravellingSalesM | jelly-home: i don't know, i have borrowed them from friends, i suppose in windows XP, is their anyway i can check and see what's the filesystem they are burnt with? |
| 23:37.21 | wols_ | TravellingSalesM: how should we know it being windows? |
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| 23:37.39 | jelly-home | wols_: he can see files. therefore the fs is mounted. |
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| 23:38.28 | abrotman | !packet writing |
| 23:38.30 | jelly-home | I've seen similar issues, especially with udf or multiple sessions. |
| 23:38.32 | abrotman | !packetwriting |
| 23:38.34 | abrotman | bah |
| 23:38.35 | TravellingSalesM | jelly-home: any suggestion? solution? |
| 23:38.37 | abrotman | it's in there somewhere |
| 23:38.52 | abrotman | !udf packet writing |
| 23:38.53 | dpkg | udf packet writing is, like, http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/patches/packet/ for recent kernels |
| 23:38.59 | abrotman | but that should be in newer kernels |
| 23:39.18 | abrotman | !info udftools etch |
| 23:39.25 | dpkg | udftools: (tools for UDF filesystems and DVD/CD-R(W) drives), section otherosfs, is extra. Version: 1.0.0b3-12 (etch), Packaged size: 76 kB, Installed size: 184 kB |
| 23:39.33 | jelly-home | TravellingSalesM: nothing much. make sure the files are burnt with a burning program that does iso9660, that really should work |
| 23:39.54 | abrotman | i've never figured out how to do that udf crap in windows :) |
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| 23:40.54 | TravellingSalesM | jelly-home: so if the cd is not iso9660 there is no solution? actually all my old cds have this problem. |
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| 23:40.58 | jelly-home | abrotman: tried to use udf on dvd+rw media in linux, but the implementation is crappy. If there's a bad block, often I can't umount or eject which defeats the purpose of having a rw system on it |
| 23:41.19 | abrotman | heh |
| 23:41.23 | jelly-home | TravellingSalesM: that's weird. try some other cd/dvd device if you can |
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| 23:42.43 | TravellingSalesM | jelly-home: i've tried in on 3 computers all dual boot, all cds work in windows and none work in linux, i googled but there were no solution anywhere, only some people have mentioned that they have the same problem |
| 23:43.22 | jelly-home | abrotman: but that's sort of expected. More weird: I burn a dvd at work, and it doesn't work in that same device (io errors). I come home and it works fine. |
| 23:43.50 | jelly-home | had no PB at the time. |
| 23:43.56 | jelly-home | Maybe that was the problem. |
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| 23:44.41 | pablo | hi, is there any package for icedtea on debian? |
| 23:44.53 | jelly-home | TravellingSalesM: try it on Solaris. If it works, Linux cd/dvd support is crappy. :-) |
| 23:45.03 | streuner | !tell pablo about search |
| 23:45.14 | jelly-home | wtf is icedtea |
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| 23:45.36 | Kikkoman | Hi, how do I do a secondary nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 23:45.41 | pablo | jelly-home: redhats implementation of java |
| 23:46.11 | abrotman | Kikkoman: just make another line |
| 23:46.14 | Kikkoman | oic |
| 23:46.16 | Kikkoman | Thanks |
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| 23:48.11 | DustyBin | why does iperf read: 486 Mbits/sec on my gigabit LAN ? |
| 23:48.13 | ma3x | how can i chang ethe dpi of iceweasel |
| 23:48.15 | ma3x | is it possibl |
| 23:48.35 | Kikkoman | abrotman: Do I need to restart to have the changes go into effect? |
| 23:48.46 | abrotman | no |
| 23:48.54 | Xulfa | why are you transferring so much crap DustyBin? |
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| 23:49.07 | DustyBin | im bench marking, not transfering |
| 23:49.23 | DustyBin | iperf is a network benchmark tool |
| 23:49.45 | DustyBin | i think its because i need cat6 cable, im only using cat5 |
| 23:50.14 | DustyBin | actually no |
| 23:50.21 | DustyBin | my cable is gigabit ok |
| 23:51.41 | jelly-home | crappy cards and/or drivers and/or network equipment. |
| 23:52.30 | DustyBin | jelly-home: im using the onboard marvell gigabit NICs on asus boards |
| 23:52.44 | DustyBin | connected to a gigabit netgear switch |
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| 23:52.49 | ieee802 | hi |
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| 23:53.00 | ieee802 | can someone help me with a security question? |
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| 23:53.06 | jelly-home | DustyBin: yeah, onboard cards often don't have all the features |
| 23:53.07 | simonrvn | just ask |
| 23:53.22 | ieee802 | i wanted to know if it's possible to change password digest algortihm |
| 23:53.26 | ieee802 | from md5 to sha |
| 23:53.47 | jelly-home | DustyBin: monitor the interrupts and cpu time spent in interrupts while you're testing. |
| 23:54.14 | jelly-home | DustyBin: if it's significant, use ethtool to enable all the available offload options |
| 23:54.31 | TravellingSalesM | jelly-home: thank you, |
| 23:54.42 | jelly-home | DustyBin: if possible, use larger mtu (though I doubt that option will be available with onboard chips) |
| 23:54.44 | DustyBin | i read somewhere that maybe i need to use 'jumbo' packets, whatever they are? |
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| 23:55.03 | ieee802 | i've read on a website that it's possibile to select while insalling wich algorithm to choose |
| 23:55.10 | ieee802 | "For example in Linux you can store your password encrypted using MD5 or the more powerful SHA1 and SHA256. I may add that while installing Debian, Mandriva or Open SuSE, the installer asks whether you want to encrypt your password in MD5 or the more powerful SHA encryption. Choose SHA because MD5 can be easily broken...." |
| 23:55.30 | ieee802 | it's possibile to change this after system has been installed? |
| 23:55.40 | kgoetz | ieee802: i dont remember seeing that option |
| 23:55.46 | ieee802 | me too :P |
| 23:56.03 | ieee802 | http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/09/cracking-13-digit-alphanumeric-password.html |
| 23:56.10 | ieee802 | this is the reference |
| 23:56.22 | bzed | ieee802: yes. but breaking md5 is not as easy as it seems, also you need to get access to the crypted data first - if somebody manages to do that, you have a security issue anyway |
| 23:56.36 | jelly-home | DustyBin: that would be packet with mtu larger than the usual ethernet mtu of 1500 bytes |
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| 23:56.45 | ieee802 | i was playing around with my laptop |
| 23:56.52 | jelly-home | DustyBin: you need to have end-to-end support to use it |
| 23:57.00 | DustyBin | ok |
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| 23:57.20 | jelly-home | DustyBin: and if you enable it, you can't use those i'faces to access the internet |
| 23:57.25 | awesomess3 | Why isn't apt-file working right? -- apt-file --regexp search 'pm$' --I get no results, when I think I should I get a lot. |
| 23:57.42 | DustyBin | would 1000baseT/Half run half speed of 1000baseT/Full ? |
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| 23:57.50 | bzed | ieee802: also stop reading that FUD, better read the link at the end |
| 23:57.52 | bzed | ieee802: http://www.matasano.com/log/958/enough-with-the-rainbow-tables-what-you-need-to-know-about-secure-password-schemes/ |
| 23:57.57 | aaron | How do I customize what's shown on my desktop? E.g. Computer, home, trash, mounted volumes, etc...? |
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| 23:58.21 | DustyBin | aaron: what desktop |
| 23:58.23 | somiaj | aaron: depends, are you using gnome or kde or some other desktop envoriment? |
| 23:58.34 | aaron | Gnome |
| 23:58.39 | DustyBin | its been a long time since i used gnome.. |
| 23:59.03 | DustyBin | try preferences >> desktop settings.. |
| 23:59.03 | kgoetz | depends what customisation you want |
| 23:59.06 | abrotman | aaron: there's a Theme preference |
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| 23:59.25 | somiaj | yea, me as well, but I think its nautilus that controls the icons, might start looking though options there |
| 23:59.47 | jelly-home | DustyBin: the half/full duplex situation is the same as with 100Base-T |