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| 00:00.33 | Kevin` | ThRiX what's your native language |
| 00:00.39 | ThRiX | Italin |
| 00:00.46 | ThRiX | italian |
| 00:00.48 | ThRiX | :) |
| 00:01.00 | Kevin` | ok, I suppose I can ask again then. which of the urls you pasted is the error log |
| 00:01.23 | ThRiX | ok |
| 00:01.33 | ThRiX | one moment |
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| 00:02.49 | ThRiX | Conf. file: /etc/dhcpd.conf -> http://pastebin.com/m64f77746 |
| 00:03.21 | ThRiX | system log: tail /var/log/syslog |
| 00:03.21 | ThRiX | -> http://pastebin.com/m3c80beee |
| 00:03.28 | ThRiX | ok? |
| 00:03.31 | ThRiX | Kevin`: |
| 00:04.14 | stew | ThRiX: can you show the output of "/sbin/ifconfig ; /sbin/route -n" |
| 00:04.19 | Tramp | sivik: what's in your resolv.conf? |
| 00:04.40 | Tramp | sivik: /etc/resolv.conf, to be specific |
| 00:05.03 | sivik | its empty and every time i restart the networking it goes blank even if i edit it and put in the nameservers |
| 00:05.30 | ThRiX | another: "/sbin/ifconfig ; /sbin/route -n" -> http://pastebin.com/m710fbbf1 |
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| 00:05.59 | lavamind | salut |
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| 00:06.11 | cbr1 | ciao |
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| 00:06.17 | lavamind | est-ce que quelqu'un connait le lieu de l'atelier de l'AGEEI demain à l,UQAM ? |
| 00:06.18 | Tramp | sivik: do you get your IP via dhcp? |
| 00:06.25 | gattina | d |
| 00:06.27 | sivik | no, static |
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| 00:06.46 | lavamind | oops worng window |
| 00:07.15 | Kevin` | ThRiX there's no errors before that? |
| 00:07.18 | Steven_elvisda_ | ThRiX: are you using dhcp or static ip? |
| 00:07.26 | jcranmer | I would like to add a TTF file to the font path |
| 00:07.26 | ThRiX | static |
| 00:07.31 | jcranmer | how would I go about doing so? |
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| 00:07.40 | ThRiX | uhm... |
| 00:07.45 | ThRiX | no no error... |
| 00:07.49 | Steven_elvisda_ | ohhh |
| 00:08.06 | Steven_elvisda_ | so you should assign subnet mask of network |
| 00:08.07 | ThRiX | i have installed ubuntu distro today (alternate 7.04) |
| 00:08.09 | Tramp | sivik: what do you mean by "restart networking"? |
| 00:08.17 | Kevin` | ThRiX I suggest you start over with the stock configuration and check whether it's working after every change you make |
| 00:08.18 | sivik | /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 00:08.21 | ThRiX | and first apps installed is this (dhcp3) |
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| 00:08.49 | ThRiX | uhm |
| 00:08.49 | ThRiX | ok |
| 00:08.57 | Steven_elvisda_ | i recomment you to check 3 files |
| 00:09.07 | Steven_elvisda_ | 1 /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:09.21 | Steven_elvisda_ | 2 /etc/hosts |
| 00:09.25 | Kevin` | http://kwzs.be/dhcpd.conf - this is mine. I didn't see any significant difference from yours asto why it wouldn't work, which is why you should start over |
| 00:09.29 | sivik | you talking to me Steven_elvisda_ |
| 00:09.32 | Tramp | sivik: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 00:09.48 | Steven_elvisda_ | ohhh i talk to ThRiX sorry sivik |
| 00:10.00 | ThRiX | ehehe |
| 00:10.16 | sivik | Tramp: http://pastebin.com/m1c693cd3 |
| 00:10.30 | sivik | Tramp, pm me and give it to me there, i am going to go get something to eat |
| 00:10.35 | ThRiX | Steven_elvisda_: |
| 00:10.37 | Steven_elvisda_ | ThRiX: according to ur error i think you forgot something in file ifcfg-eth0 |
| 00:10.39 | Steven_elvisda_ | let check |
| 00:10.47 | Steven_elvisda_ | ThRiX: i just give idea |
| 00:10.52 | Steven_elvisda_ | i'm not expert too |
| 00:10.52 | Steven_elvisda_ | :D |
| 00:11.08 | ThRiX | i have see |
| 00:11.13 | ThRiX | 1 and 2 files |
| 00:11.22 | ThRiX | in resolv.conf |
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| 00:11.32 | ThRiX | i have add only one row |
| 00:11.33 | Tramp | sivik: nope, msg works only for registered users or something like that. |
| 00:11.41 | ThRiX | with nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
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| 00:11.48 | sivik | will you still be on in about an hour? |
| 00:11.51 | ThRiX | in hosts i have 2 rows |
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| 00:11.58 | ThRiX | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 00:11.59 | ThRiX | 192.168.1.100 server |
| 00:12.15 | michal__ | does anyone know why I might get the following problem when trying to ping some hosts on the local network? the hostname of the machine i am pinging from is 192.168.100.10 |
| 00:12.16 | michal__ | ping 192.168.100.21 |
| 00:12.17 | michal__ | PING 192.168.100.21 (192.168.100.21) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 00:12.17 | michal__ | From 192.168.100.10 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable |
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| 00:12.49 | ThRiX | where i find ifcfg-eth0 files? |
| 00:12.52 | michal__ | oops.. sorry. one too many lines |
| 00:13.26 | ThRiX | Kevin`: i have seen your files but |
| 00:13.40 | ThRiX | don't have big difference... |
| 00:13.42 | Steven_elvisda_ | /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 |
| 00:13.43 | ThRiX | or not? |
| 00:13.46 | Steven_elvisda_ | here ThRiX |
| 00:13.51 | ThRiX | ok |
| 00:13.53 | Tramp | sivik: think so |
| 00:14.01 | ThRiX | ahhh |
| 00:14.09 | ThRiX | i don't have sysconfig folder... |
| 00:14.15 | Steven_elvisda_ | huh! |
| 00:14.18 | Steven_elvisda_ | sorry |
| 00:14.25 | ThRiX | have already seen this path in various help online... |
| 00:14.33 | ThRiX | but i dont'have thisfolder |
| 00:14.45 | michal__ | anyone have any idea what might cause that weird networking problem? |
| 00:15.06 | Steven_elvisda_ | yeah i knew ThRiX |
| 00:15.14 | ThRiX | yes? |
| 00:15.18 | ThRiX | sure? |
| 00:15.25 | ThRiX | :) |
| 00:15.34 | Steven_elvisda_ | may be i'm not clear with debian |
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| 00:15.41 | Steven_elvisda_ | okei i have this one www.aboutdebian.com |
| 00:15.42 | Steven_elvisda_ | let check |
| 00:15.49 | Steven_elvisda_ | it have something talk about network |
| 00:15.49 | Tramp | michal__: hmm. You are routing the .21 via .10? |
| 00:16.20 | Tramp | michal__: oh, the .10 is the source itself. |
| 00:16.32 | michal__ | tramp: no. i don't think it has any default gateway.. however.. if i was. would that make a difference? |
| 00:17.00 | ThRiX | .... |
| 00:17.20 | michal__ | problem is of course that i can't connect to it to check. because .. i don't know what. |
| 00:17.32 | michal__ | it makes no sense to me at all |
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| 00:18.10 | Tramp | michal__: Please paste netstat -nr and ifconfig -a |
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| 00:19.19 | michal__ | in #flood? |
| 00:19.20 | ThRiX | i don't find any info |
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| 00:19.39 | Tramp | !tell michal__ about paste |
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| 00:22.26 | michal__ | tramp: pasted both |
| 00:22.41 | Tramp | michal__: great. Where? |
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| 00:23.11 | anom01y | is it possible to copy a small file that is located in my home folder into every folder/subfolder within the home folder ? |
| 00:23.25 | dondelelcaro | anom01y: yes. |
| 00:24.19 | michal__ | http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 00:24.35 | michal__ | btw.. it seems that exactly the same thing happens if i try pinging a non-existing ip :/ |
| 00:24.42 | michal__ | is that normal? |
| 00:24.57 | Steven_elvisda_ | hi all |
| 00:25.03 | Steven_elvisda_ | in my auth.log |
| 00:25.07 | Steven_elvisda_ | alway see this |
| 00:25.08 | Steven_elvisda_ | Nov 14 19:23:01 li11-13 CRON[8218]: (pam_unix) session opened for user mail by (uid=0) |
| 00:25.08 | Steven_elvisda_ | Nov 14 19:23:01 li11-13 CRON[8218]: (pam_unix) session closed for user mail |
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| 00:25.23 | Tramp | michal__: I need the reference, like http://paste.debian.net/42450 |
| 00:25.52 | michal__ | oh.. it never gave me one :/ |
| 00:26.09 | Tramp | michal__: The URL of the page you see after hitting the "Send" button |
| 00:26.35 | michal__ | it went right back to the page where you intput data.. |
| 00:26.45 | michal__ | i guess it just doesn't work.. i'll try another site |
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| 00:27.40 | michal__ | http://rafb.net/p/wYvYm727.html |
| 00:27.46 | rocketmagnet | hi, does someone know why there is no php5-readline package in etch ? |
| 00:28.21 | michal__ | http://rafb.net/p/WFYz9C76.html |
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| 00:30.59 | Tramp | michal__: hmm. Netmask is ok and interface is up. Do you have netfilter rules (iptables) active? |
| 00:32.04 | michal__ | tramp: all disabled |
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| 00:33.38 | Tramp | michal__: So iptables -nvL shows all empty chains and ACCEPT policy? |
| 00:34.52 | Tramp | michal__: can you ping 192.168.100.10 and 127.0.0.1? |
| 00:35.08 | michal__ | http://rafb.net/p/ZitHOy78.html |
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| 00:36.15 | litage|w | how can one determine whether a domain has an SPF record? there's no mention of SPF in the manpages of ``host'' and ``dig'', and running ``host -t SPF domain.com'' and ``dig -t SPF domain.com'' fail |
| 00:36.24 | agato | how is that amd quadcore opteron performance with debian? |
| 00:36.38 | michal__ | http://rafb.net/p/A1ojrd69.html |
| 00:36.40 | Kevin` | litage|w spf uses txt records |
| 00:36.48 | r3coba | hey, how can I install a OS if my laptop cant recognize the harddrive (bios can recognize it) had problems with mbr |
| 00:36.51 | litage|w | Kevin`: ah, thanks. i'll try that |
| 00:37.02 | agato | use a hammer |
| 00:37.21 | agato | you terrorist it, it will work |
| 00:37.33 | agato | **damn spelling |
| 00:37.36 | agato | terrorize |
| 00:37.48 | Tramp | michal__: this is getting a challenge. |
| 00:38.04 | agato | anyone using AMD QUADCORE opteron? |
| 00:38.11 | Tramp | michal__: ok. In a second terminal run tcpdump -ni eth0 icmp |
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| 00:38.32 | Tramp | michal__: then try to ping the 100.21 again. |
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| 00:39.53 | r3coba | anyone? |
| 00:40.00 | agato | i want to know if debian can handle multi-cores handling |
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| 00:40.24 | agato | how is the threading done ? |
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| 00:40.51 | michal__ | tramp: hold on.. AS i was doing that it strted to work.. i think.. hold on |
| 00:40.56 | agato | r3coba, use a boot cd or floppy partition the crap |
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| 00:41.04 | rhododendron | i'm looking for a tutorial how to connect my mobile phone via irda. i didn't find something appropriate via google... anyone a hint? |
| 00:41.09 | Tramp | michal__: 8) glad I fixed it. |
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| 00:43.39 | JordiGH | Gah, do I really need all of the kdeedu source if I only want to look at Kig's source? :-( |
| 00:44.54 | JordiGH | "Since Kig has been included in the kdeedu module since KDE 3.2, it is no longer released separately." |
| 00:44.58 | JordiGH | I guess I'm screwed, then. |
| 00:45.24 | r3coba | agato dont have floppy drive, what kind of boot cd? |
| 00:45.26 | Tramp | r3coba: you mean, if you enter the BIOS you don't see your harddrive anymore (e.g. to specify the boot-order)? |
| 00:45.36 | jelly-home | JordiGH: download at work and take home tomorrow |
| 00:46.07 | JordiGH | I *am* at work. :-( |
| 00:46.38 | k31th | how is freenx these days ? |
| 00:46.40 | r3coba | Tramp at bios i can se the harddrive , but when I run an OS cd I cant install because didnt find the harddrive |
| 00:48.11 | Tramp | r3coba: what "OS cd" did you use? |
| 00:48.13 | JordiGH | Hm, and how come KDE 4.0 isn't in experimental? |
| 00:48.22 | JordiGH | Or is there no KDE 4.0 yet? |
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| 00:49.13 | r3coba | Tramp I had vista and I have installed debian via network on separated partitions of course, but had problems with boot loaders and now I cant choose an OS |
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| 00:49.42 | r3coba | tryed with windows XP and recovering discs, and no one find the hardrive |
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| 00:51.16 | Tramp | r3coba: huh. I'd try some live-CD and from it install grub in the (probably broken) mbr. |
| 00:51.58 | r3coba | Tramp i've already installed grub but how do I boot the OS? |
| 00:52.02 | michal__ | tramp: thanks for your help. it turned out to be human stupidity (ie cables knocked out). |
| 00:52.22 | jcranmer | :-) |
| 00:52.27 | Tramp | michal__: *g*. Really hard to find from the pasted information ... |
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| 00:52.52 | jcranmer | I recently had to deal with one computer where the ethernet would get loose |
| 00:53.04 | jcranmer | the cable would still be in the socket, just not fully hooked up |
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| 00:53.42 | Elite_Chaos | Relatively new Computer Security Site http://www.wgforums.com Check it out FORUMS FOR EVERYTHING: Computer Hacking, Computer Security, Computer Networking, Computer Programming, Lots of Warez, Gaming, ++ Lots MORE!!....Thank You. Once again the site is HTTP://WWW.WGFORUMS.COM |
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| 00:53.48 | jcranmer | how would I go about adding one TTF file to my font-path? do I just drop it in a folder already there? or do I have some conf files to change? |
| 00:54.18 | JordiGH | Can we K-line the guy? |
| 00:54.43 | agato | grub killed the crap? |
| 00:54.49 | abrotman | JordiGH: has he done it more than once? |
| 00:54.56 | Tramp | r3coba: Where do you have grub installed? I'm confused. What happens, when you boot your laptop? |
| 00:55.05 | agato | probably you didn't choose a loader |
| 00:55.13 | agato | that is why you can't load crap |
| 00:55.15 | JordiGH | abrotman: One spam message is enough. I say we prepare the gallows. |
| 00:55.28 | abrotman | JordiGH: you can ask staff i suppose |
| 00:55.36 | abrotman | none of which are on duty |
| 00:55.52 | JordiGH | I wonder where the IRCops hangout... if indeed there are any. |
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| 00:56.55 | sivik | Tramp: u still around? |
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| 00:57.05 | stew | hrm |
| 00:57.08 | *** mode/#debian [+o stew] by ChanServ |
| 00:57.09 | Tramp | sivik: yep |
| 00:57.17 | r3coba | when I was installing debian I had problems with the bootloaders and I didnt install it, so when rebooting couldnt run any OS, asked help here and I used sysresccd.org to instal grub, I did it but I cant boot windows |
| 00:57.18 | JordiGH | sic, stew! sic! |
| 00:57.26 | abrotman | JordiGH: he's only chanop ... he can't kline |
| 00:57.30 | JordiGH | Aw. |
| 00:57.31 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@65.19.247.225] by stew |
| 00:57.39 | JordiGH | I guess that will have to do. |
| 00:57.39 | *** mode/#debian [-o stew] by stew |
| 00:57.44 | r3coba | Tramp I have installed grub on debian partition |
| 00:57.44 | abrotman | yeah "only" :) |
| 00:57.54 | sivik | Tramp: what is causing my resolve.conf to go blank |
| 00:58.01 | hatter | can i make a particular processes an smp cpu use a particular cpu ? |
| 00:58.02 | JordiGH | I want to put a scarlet S on the guy. And put him in the stocks |
| 00:58.17 | abrotman | hatter: cpu affinity |
| 00:58.26 | Tramp | sivik: ah. I remember - had to swap in, what the problem was 8) |
| 00:58.28 | Chascon | your guys'es IceApe does not build from source. Sadly, Ubuntu's is building |
| 00:58.34 | sivik | Tramp: i could have told you |
| 00:58.46 | sivik | Tramp: something about sendmail and resolving (i think) |
| 00:59.16 | JordiGH | Gah, Elite_Chaos just spammed #kde too |
| 00:59.21 | JordiGH | KILL! |
| 00:59.33 | thc | Why would you biuld something from source when there is a Debian package. |
| 00:59.41 | abrotman | thc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:59.46 | Tramp | sivik: there is no reason, why installing sendmail would blank your resolv.conf ... your IP is static, so no dhcp-client messing with it. |
| 00:59.47 | thc | abrotman: what's up, dude |
| 00:59.47 | hatter | abrotman, thx |
| 00:59.55 | abrotman | thc: hey |
| 01:00.00 | litage|w | any idea how to determine if an smtp server checks SPF records? |
| 01:00.02 | sivik | Tramp: i know, thats why i'm totally confused |
| 01:00.11 | abrotman | Chascon: AFAIK .. those are the debian packages .. that's why they're in universe i believe |
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| 01:00.13 | Chascon | many reasons but I personally want to get calendar funtionality and port it to OS X |
| 01:00.15 | sivik | its saying that the resolve.conf file is dynamic |
| 01:00.36 | JordiGH | universe? |
| 01:00.39 | Tramp | sivik: what is saying that? |
| 01:00.42 | Chascon | abrotman: ah it just crapped so you probably right |
| 01:00.44 | JordiGH | Are we talking about Deboontu again? |
| 01:00.46 | sivik | the resolve.conf file |
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| 01:01.00 | sivik | let me show you Tramp |
| 01:01.41 | Tramp | r3coba: ah. hmm you should have installed it into the mbr |
| 01:01.41 | JordiGH | Chascon: And which IceApe are you building? sid's? 'Cause etch's had better build from source. Letting an RC bug like that slip by would be extremely embarrassing. ;-) |
| 01:01.56 | r3coba | Tramp can you helpme doing it now? |
| 01:02.00 | Chascon | I get branding/content/logo.gif' doesn't exist at mozilla/config/make-jars.pl line 443 |
| 01:02.14 | sivik | Tramp: http://pastebin.com/m12a2c39d |
| 01:02.19 | JordiGH | Chascon: Ha! Because it's no longer Thunderbird. |
| 01:02.22 | Chascon | JordiGH: I tried serveral sid as well as stable, if I recall |
| 01:02.26 | abrotman | Chascon: oh .. no they aren't the same (or so the changelog would indicate) |
| 01:02.37 | JordiGH | Chascon: etch builds... or I'll eat my hat. |
| 01:02.53 | Chascon | JordiGH: k, wil try again |
| 01:02.58 | Tramp | r3coba: well, in any case you need to boot from some live CD |
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| 01:03.09 | JordiGH | Chascon: Are you building The Debian Way? |
| 01:03.34 | Chascon | I'm buliding on OS X from source with a mozconfig |
| 01:03.35 | r3coba | Tramp I used sysresccd, its possible to do with this one? |
| 01:03.39 | abrotman | hhaha |
| 01:03.50 | Chascon | I want to port iceape-calendar to OS X |
| 01:03.51 | abrotman | Chascon: fink ? |
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| 01:04.14 | JordiGH | Chascon: Oh, not building The Debian Way. Not our fault, then. ;-) |
| 01:04.16 | Chascon | abrotman: nope just with make -f client.mk build_all |
| 01:04.17 | abrotman | Chascon: wouldn't it be easier to use thunderbird+lightning or sunbird ? |
| 01:04.25 | Tramp | sivik: oh. resolveconf - heard about this. Is this a dependency to sendmail? |
| 01:04.26 | jcranmer | Chascon: did you get the source from mozilla.org or from the debian repository? |
| 01:04.34 | sivik | not sure, it seems to not be installed |
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| 01:04.37 | Chascon | jcranmer: debian |
| 01:04.45 | drwahl | i dont seem to be getting any help from #nvidia, so i will ask here... when i run glxgears or glxinfo, my x server crashes. i am running the 2.6.21 kernel |
| 01:04.48 | JordiGH | Chascon: Why are you using Debian's anyways? |
| 01:04.58 | jngu1 | Anyone here not from California know what a reference to the 'Valley' is? |
| 01:05.05 | Chascon | jcranmer: I can build swiftweasel Iceweasel from Debian just fine |
| 01:05.09 | jngu1 | *'the valley' |
| 01:05.35 | JordiGH | Swiftweasel? Is that a legally dubious fork of Iceweasel like Swiftfox was? |
| 01:05.36 | Chascon | JordiGH: and IceApe-calendar shouldn't be any different |
| 01:05.46 | alnr | any good text-based messenger client for debian? |
| 01:05.51 | Tramp | r3coba: sorry no idea what kind of CD this is. |
| 01:06.04 | jcranmer | it is probably easier to build from mozilla's source |
| 01:06.06 | sivik | Tramp: is there a repo to install it? |
| 01:06.07 | Kevin` | alnr microsoft messenger, you mean? |
| 01:06.10 | Chascon | swiftweasel just sets standards |
| 01:06.13 | jcranmer | debian sort of sanitizes it |
| 01:06.32 | alnr | Kevin`: that would interface to theirs, yahoo, etc |
| 01:06.35 | abrotman | alnr: centericq |
| 01:06.43 | Kevin` | I used to use a client like that on slackware, long ago |
| 01:06.47 | Kevin` | I forget what it was called :( |
| 01:07.01 | abrotman | there's also 'finch' (i think that's the name) |
| 01:07.09 | remnant | what is a good way to block wget? are there existing scripts out there to check access logs in addition to blocking user agents? |
| 01:07.13 | alnr | abchirk: thanks thats the one i saw, so i'll try it. i'm liking weechat for irc |
| 01:07.18 | abrotman | !beer abchirk |
| 01:07.24 | JordiGH | Chascon: Uh, but is it a version of Swiftfox? Swiftfox is highly non-free. |
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| 01:08.05 | Kevin` | remnant wtf would you block wget |
| 01:08.05 | r3coba | Tramp www.sysresccd.org its a bootalbe disc from where I installed grub |
| 01:08.05 | Kevin` | remnant it makes a single connection unlike download accellerators and OBEYS robots.txt |
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| 01:08.06 | Kevin` | remnant blocking it is stupid, a lot of people use it because it resumes downloads reliably |
| 01:08.19 | Tramp | sivik: hmm. You have the package resolvconf installed, right? |
| 01:08.21 | Chascon | nope, swiftweasel just sets standards in that it sets hte instruction set, processor arch, 03 rather than 02, etc |
| 01:08.31 | sivik | apparently not |
| 01:08.33 | remnant | Kevin`: how about content one would want to protect?? |
| 01:08.35 | Chascon | nope, swiftweasel |
| 01:08.46 | \amethyst | remnant: protect from what? |
| 01:08.50 | sivik | Tramp: and its going to be hard to install it because i'm sshed into it and wget seems to no be working correctly |
| 01:08.57 | Kevin` | remnant how would blocking a specific client protect content in any way? |
| 01:08.59 | abrotman | !icelizard |
| 01:09.00 | dpkg | Icelizard is the collection of applications that replace popular Mozilla applications, currently listed as IceWeasel(Firefox), IceDove(Thunderbird), IceApe(SeaMonkey), IceOwl(Sunbird). |
| 01:09.05 | remnant | Kevin`: there are legit reasons to block wget |
| 01:09.07 | JordiGH | Chascon: And who builds it and why is it not in Debian? |
| 01:09.10 | Kevin` | remnant such as? |
| 01:09.14 | Tramp | r3coba: hang on a minute, I'm coming back to you. |
| 01:09.15 | Chascon | swiftweasel can't be based on swiftfox code because swiftfox does not release it's code, afaik |
| 01:09.22 | \amethyst | remnant: just put in a robots.txt that disallows access |
| 01:09.28 | remnant | Kevin`: copyright? |
| 01:09.41 | Kevin` | remnant you think wget does something special that allows it to "steal" content? |
| 01:09.44 | Chascon | who builds swiftweasel? |
| 01:09.51 | Tramp | sivik: hmm. no, I think you have it installed an it is messing with your resolv.conf. |
| 01:10.01 | \amethyst | remnant: so you're okay with someone downloading exactly the same files with a web browser? |
| 01:10.03 | sivik | well, i can't seem to find it |
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| 01:10.17 | sivik | i may have found it |
| 01:10.28 | abchirk | abrotman you re always welcome ;) |
| 01:10.28 | Chascon | http://swiftweasel.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:10.34 | remnant | Kevin`: of course if somebody wants the entire content they will get it, but it doesn't mean I have to make it easy for them to do so |
| 01:10.34 | \amethyst | remnant: or with curl, or with GET from libwww-perl, or with netcat... |
| 01:10.42 | Chascon | read about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftweasel |
| 01:10.50 | sivik | Tramp: no, in the resolve.conf.d/ the nameservers are set properly |
| 01:10.53 | remnant | \amethyst: yes I know |
| 01:11.01 | \amethyst | remnant: why isn't robots.txt good enough to block wget? |
| 01:11.01 | Kevin` | remnant blocking certain user agents will annoy leginimate users far more then it will protect you from anything at all |
| 01:11.05 | JordiGH | Chascon: And why is it not in Debian? Should it be? |
| 01:11.25 | Chascon | ah, don't know |
| 01:11.30 | \amethyst | remnant: (also, wget can send whatever useragent the user tells it to) |
| 01:11.31 | Kevin` | remnant same goes for javascripts on right clicking and similar insane bull shit :) |
| 01:11.33 | JordiGH | Ah, it's only under the MPL. |
| 01:11.36 | abrotman | swiftweasel seems kind of .. useless |
| 01:11.38 | Chascon | sinse I'm presently not using debian |
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| 01:11.44 | remnant | \amethyst: some agents can ignore robots.txt? |
| 01:11.47 | JordiGH | Debian doesn't like the MPL too much. That could be it. |
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| 01:12.00 | Kevin` | remnant wget can't ignore it |
| 01:12.15 | JordiGH | remnant: Agents can do whatever the hell they want with robots.txt If they're nice, they'll obey it, but there's nothing enforcing them to be nice. |
| 01:12.16 | remnant | Kevin`: curl or possibly others? |
| 01:12.20 | Chascon | but yeahm it should be. It builds on OS X |
| 01:12.20 | \amethyst | remnant: yes, but it's much easier to tell wget to change useragent than to tell it to ignore robots.txt |
| 01:12.27 | JordiGH | Kevin`: Sure it can, just modify its source. ;-) |
| 01:12.29 | Tramp | sivik: no, look: This resolv.conf is generated by some tool (resolvconf). But I don't see the need to do this, espacially when it does it wrong. |
| 01:12.29 | \amethyst | curl isn't really a robot |
| 01:12.32 | remnant | YES I KNOW |
| 01:12.35 | Chascon | so it's portable |
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| 01:12.40 | Kevin` | remnant anyway, if you think any of these things will help you protect your precious secret html code, you are badly mistaken, and should learn more about internet architecture |
| 01:12.42 | sivik | Tramp: ok, so how do i tell it not to |
| 01:12.44 | remnant | maybe this is a wrong place to ask |
| 01:12.52 | JordiGH | Chascon: The MPL license might be an issue for Swiftweasel. |
| 01:12.56 | Chascon | bt I gather the code doesn't differ from mozilla's |
| 01:13.00 | Kevin` | it's really a bad idea to be doing this. |
| 01:13.11 | Chascon | why? |
| 01:13.13 | Kevin` | you will lose more customers with it then you will prevent stealing |
| 01:13.19 | xenonex | hello |
| 01:13.19 | xenonex | how to upgrade 4.0r0 to 4.0r1? |
| 01:13.21 | xenonex | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade? |
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| 01:13.47 | JordiGH | xenonex: dist-upgrade, probably. Yes, I've had no problems doing large upgrades in etch. |
| 01:13.47 | Tramp | sivik: I don't have resolvconf installed, so I have no manpage. If it is a daemon then it should be disabled or the whole package removed |
| 01:13.55 | Chascon | you can package FF howwver you want, just as long as you do not use their name or artwork |
| 01:13.56 | jcranmer | JordiGH: last I heard, it was the trademarks on the images in firefox & co that prevented debian from using them |
| 01:13.56 | Kevin` | remnant if you don't believe me by now, so be it, it's your web site. make it as unprofessional as you want :) |
| 01:14.20 | \amethyst | remnant: some sites do filtering based on the Referrer |
| 01:14.22 | JordiGH | jcranmer: The MPL? |
| 01:14.23 | agato | anyone using QUADCORE opteron? how is the performance? |
| 01:14.29 | \amethyst | remnant: which can also be spoofed |
| 01:14.29 | remnant | Kevin`: protecting assets is not unprofessional |
| 01:15.08 | \amethyst | but blocking wget doesn't protect anything |
| 01:15.10 | jcranmer | no, the artwork |
| 01:15.14 | abrotman | jcranmer: /msg dpkg why iceweasel |
| 01:15.18 | remnant | \amethyst: like I said before, if they really want it all, they can eventually get it; I don't want to make it easy for them |
| 01:15.19 | Tramp | sivik: but I don't know your system, so maybe you need this "resolvconf" magic - in this case it should be fixed. |
| 01:15.22 | Kevin` | remnant no, but the stuff that will result from your misunderstanding of web technologies IS unprofessional. you are not protecting assets. really. |
| 01:15.28 | \amethyst | remnant: then robots.txt is the best way to go |
| 01:15.30 | sivik | lol |
| 01:15.35 | sivik | Tramp: stupid sendmail |
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| 01:16.00 | Tramp | sivik: these nameservers in the resolv.conf you pasted are wrong? |
| 01:16.12 | JordiGH | Chascon: As I recall, there were other issues with the MPL that Mozilla fixed by dual-licensing Firefox. I recall a shitstorm in d-legal as to whether the MPL was suitable for Debian or not, and I can't remember the conclusion, if shitstorms ever produce conclusions. |
| 01:16.15 | Kevin` | remnant actually. if someone sees a web site like that, they would probably most likely ignore it from bad design rather then copy it :) |
| 01:16.16 | remnant | I'll implement something myself |
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| 01:16.22 | sivik | Tramp: why ware they wrong? |
| 01:16.36 | sivik | are* |
| 01:16.42 | Kevin` | remnant maybe in doing so you will learn better how the technology behind it works |
| 01:16.54 | JordiGH | Chascon: Since you're using OSX, I gather this sort of hardcore, freedom-preserving legal mumbo-jumbo is not of great concern to you. ;-) |
| 01:16.56 | Tramp | sivik: you said so, didn't you - I remember you saying that your resolution was broken? |
| 01:17.03 | Chascon | it does |
| 01:17.03 | \amethyst | remnant: a better idea might be to block people from downloading/viewing more than M images in N seconds |
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| 01:17.12 | sivik | Tramp: its not working |
| 01:17.18 | abrotman | JordiGH: you're way wrong .. but whatever |
| 01:17.22 | Chascon | it's just that my laptop wasn't supported by Debian till a little while ago |
| 01:17.33 | remnant | \amethyst: I'm not blocking images; it's real content |
| 01:17.35 | JordiGH | abrotman: Wrong about what? The shitstorm in d-legal? |
| 01:17.39 | Chascon | or at least not without jumping thru a lot of hoops |
| 01:17.53 | \amethyst | remnant: ... |
| 01:18.03 | sivik | Tramp: http://pastebin.com/m3bdf928f |
| 01:18.05 | Chascon | besides I'm waiting for Debian kfreebsd |
| 01:18.17 | \amethyst | remnant: okay, prevent them from loading more than M pages in N seconds |
| 01:18.34 | Chascon | 'cause, although I love Debian, I do not like the linux kernel |
| 01:18.41 | \amethyst | remnant: or put it behind a password |
| 01:19.00 | JordiGH | Or Hurd? :-) |
| 01:19.11 | Tramp | sivik: what are your nameservers supposed to be? They appear to be the nameservers of "800hosting.com" |
| 01:19.14 | abrotman | Chascon: you can get debian with a bsd kernel now |
| 01:19.22 | Chascon | yeah, don't think HURD will ever make it anywhere |
| 01:19.23 | sivik | its a server hosted there |
| 01:19.26 | sivik | i work there |
| 01:19.31 | \amethyst | remnant: but you definitely want a robots.txt or the content will show up on every search engine out there |
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| 01:19.42 | \amethyst | not to mention archive.org etc etc |
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| 01:19.49 | JordiGH | Chascon: Nobody does. :-) |
| 01:19.58 | Chascon | I hold better expectations for Debian Minis |
| 01:20.00 | Chascon | I hold better expectations for Debian Minix |
| 01:20.05 | JordiGH | Doesn't mean it won't give us the surprise of our lifetime anyways. |
| 01:20.30 | JordiGH | Say, Linus drinks Mr Hyde potion... No, I guess even in that case, we can just fork Linux. |
| 01:20.41 | Chascon | I mean, I hope they do, I just don't think it has intertia |
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| 01:21.03 | JordiGH | I'm kinda curious to see what a microkernel could do. But yeah, no inertia. |
| 01:21.12 | Chascon | http://mauroandres.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/debian-gnuminix/ |
| 01:21.34 | sivik | Tramp: thats what happens |
| 01:21.37 | remnant | \amethyst: I have already suggested these ideas |
| 01:21.49 | abrotman | JordiGH: there are many microkernel systems that run |
| 01:21.57 | abrotman | and some run very well |
| 01:22.00 | remnant | Kevin`: thanks for the info, but I disagree; I will find something else |
| 01:22.05 | sivik | Tramp: so what m i fucking up |
| 01:22.07 | remnant | \amethyst: thanks |
| 01:22.07 | JordiGH | abrotman: kFreeBSD is a microkernel? |
| 01:22.13 | Chascon | I hope this unofficial port becomes official |
| 01:22.18 | abrotman | WindowsNT is a microkernel :) |
| 01:22.20 | Chascon | no |
| 01:22.26 | \amethyst | remnant: blocking based on user-agent is just downright ineffective |
| 01:22.26 | Chascon | uses the BSD kernel |
| 01:22.27 | dondelelcaro | Chascon: don't hope; if you want it to become official, help out |
| 01:22.28 | Tramp | sivik: well, now hang on. Resolution worked for you before? |
| 01:22.32 | Kevin` | remnant really, try to do it yourself in the server or scripting languge, there's a good chance you will learn a lot about the technology |
| 01:22.33 | sivik | Tramp: yes |
| 01:22.54 | sivik | Tramp: i was working until sendmail was installed |
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| 01:23.03 | sivik | i have tried removing sendmail but that didn't help |
| 01:23.05 | drwahl | i am having issues with my video card. when i try to run glxinfo, it crashes the xserver. any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 01:23.05 | JordiGH | abrotman: Oh. I prefer to forget that sort of thing exists. ;-) |
| 01:23.15 | sivik | drwahl, what kind of card? |
| 01:23.18 | \amethyst | remnant: anyone who is smart enough to use wget is smart enough to search its manpage for "user-agent" and find the --user-agent option |
| 01:23.23 | Chascon | "WindowsNT is a microkernel" not according to Torvalds |
| 01:23.23 | JordiGH | sivik: It's the nvidia blob. |
| 01:23.24 | \amethyst | doh |
| 01:23.32 | drwahl | sivik: nVidia |
| 01:23.35 | Tramp | sivik: does "dig www.google.it @69.41.160.8" work? |
| 01:23.39 | JordiGH | And this is why we hate the blob. :-) |
| 01:23.40 | Chascon | he calls it marketing |
| 01:23.50 | abrotman | maybe it's not anymore .. dunno .. |
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| 01:24.31 | Chascon | well, my programming skills are practically non-present |
| 01:24.40 | Chascon | I just like to port things |
| 01:24.49 | JordiGH | Doesn't porting involve coding? |
| 01:25.02 | Chascon | that's why I'm trying to port Iceape-Calendar to OS X |
| 01:25.06 | JordiGH | Unless the simple sid backport counts as porting. |
| 01:25.07 | Chascon | not always |
| 01:25.15 | sivik | Tramp: it works this way: dig @69.41.160.8 google.com |
| 01:25.16 | abrotman | Chascon: are you sure sunbird/iceowl wouldn't be easier ? |
| 01:25.22 | Chascon | I also like to mess with scripts, and write an aweful lot |
| 01:25.44 | Chascon | the point is not doing somthing easy |
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| 01:25.56 | Chascon | I've alreadty tried Thunderbird |
| 01:26.01 | JordiGH | drwahl: Are there any clues in the logs as to why it's crashing? Which version of the blob are you using? |
| 01:26.01 | drwahl | sivik: any ideas? |
| 01:26.10 | Chascon | I want calendar funtionality in my browser |
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| 01:26.40 | Chascon | that also has mail support |
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| 01:26.58 | Tramp | sivik: what gives "grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf" |
| 01:26.59 | dondelelcaro | why do you want all of that in your browser? |
| 01:27.00 | drwahl | JordiGH: im not sure what blog i am using, nor do i know which log to look into to find why it is crashing. is it the /var/log/kdm ? |
| 01:27.07 | Chascon | plus Thrunderbird is a slow hog |
| 01:27.08 | sivik | http://pastebin.com/m7d05820e |
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| 01:27.21 | dondelelcaro | Chascon: just use iceowl and icedove or iceowl and mutt or ... |
| 01:27.37 | Seb | any simple way in either shell or perl to find *text* files only |
| 01:27.42 | Seb | i can't see a find option for it |
| 01:27.43 | sivik | Tramp: it says hosts: files dns |
| 01:27.50 | Tramp | sivik: oh, hang on |
| 01:27.55 | dondelelcaro | Seb: use find + -exec + file |
| 01:28.08 | Seb | i basically wanna exclude binary files from my search, and I know grep does it, but... |
| 01:28.09 | JordiGH | drwahl: Probably /var/log/Xorg.0.log, see if it says there why it's crashing. Or try to just run "startx" from a tty and then crash your X server, maybe that will produce a useful error. And I'm asking version of the blob, not blog. ;-) |
| 01:28.12 | Chascon | dondelelcaro:cause I liked the old mozilla and old netscape app |
| 01:28.20 | dondelelcaro | Seb: though "text" files is kind of a heuristic |
| 01:28.21 | Tramp | sivik: edit the resolv.conf. Write "nameserver" in front of the 2 IPs. |
| 01:28.22 | sivik | drwahl: which nvidia? |
| 01:28.24 | dondelelcaro | Chascon: then use iceape |
| 01:28.29 | Seb | dondelelcaro: i looked for a switch to "file", but apart from parsing its output i didn't find anything conclusive |
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| 01:28.35 | abrotman | Chascon: there was a guy in here the other day whining because Netscape4 wasn't in etch |
| 01:28.36 | mardi_soir | hello |
| 01:28.41 | Chascon | that's what I'm trying to do |
| 01:28.45 | drwahl | sivik: 7950 GS |
| 01:28.54 | mardi_soir | i m looking a tutorial to set up a ftp serveur with ssl support |
| 01:28.59 | drwahl | JordiGH: lemme give startx a shot... |
| 01:29.00 | mardi_soir | for |
| 01:29.01 | Chascon | but since I'm on OS X I have to port it |
| 01:29.02 | sivik | Tramp, finished, do i need to restart something? |
| 01:29.11 | Tramp | sivik: no. Just try the ping again. |
| 01:29.17 | sivik | drwahl: the drivers from nivida should work for you now |
| 01:29.18 | mardi_soir | and a ftp client who support ssl |
| 01:29.18 | Seb | dondelelcaro: i guess i can do grep -I -E '.' |
| 01:29.20 | Chascon | there is no Iceape for OS X binary |
| 01:29.25 | mardi_soir | wich |
| 01:29.27 | sivik | Tramp: same thing |
| 01:29.33 | Seb | dondelelcaro: and operate on the return code of that, but its seems hella backwards |
| 01:29.33 | mardi_soir | sorry for my english |
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| 01:30.12 | Tramp | sivik: the lines in the resolv.conf now reads "nameserver 69.41.160.8" (with the space between nameserver and the IP), right? |
| 01:30.18 | drwahl | sivik: in which distro? etch? lenny? sid? |
| 01:30.19 | sivik | yes |
| 01:30.37 | Chascon | abrotman: that's pretty bad |
| 01:30.42 | sivik | drwahl, thats how mine works in ubuntu, try doing that instead of installing the drivers from the repos |
| 01:30.57 | JordiGH | drwahl: No useful error message, then? |
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| 01:30.59 | abrotman | Chascon: yes :) |
| 01:31.10 | drwahl | JordiGH: there is a ton of errors, i'm trying to sort it out |
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| 01:31.21 | sivik | Tramp: nope, i mis-typed them |
| 01:31.33 | Tramp | sivik: the IP? |
| 01:31.48 | JordiGH | Ah, X errors? Request not possible or something like that? |
| 01:31.49 | sivik | Tramp: no, i type nameservers instead of nameserver |
| 01:31.58 | Tramp | sivik: ok. What now? |
| 01:32.00 | dondelelcaro | Seb: file -bi foofile|grep -q text; will do it |
| 01:32.09 | sivik | i just fixed it, but its still not working |
| 01:32.54 | sivik | Tramp: http://pastebin.com/m883ca11 |
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| 01:33.18 | JordiGH | Aw, snowballz isn't working. :-( |
| 01:33.21 | dondelelcaro | (or just -b foofile|grep -q text) |
| 01:33.32 | drwahl | sivik, JordiGH: i should mention i am using the nvidia non-free driver so that i can have 3d rendering. last that i heard that was an issue with the paravirtualized kernel... |
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| 01:33.47 | sivik | paravirtualized kernel, wtf is that |
| 01:34.08 | JordiGH | Ah, I was going to ask the same thing. |
| 01:34.16 | drwahl | JordiGH: the most significant thing i can find in the log is: Failed to initialize GLX module |
| 01:34.36 | JordiGH | drwahl: And "startx"? |
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| 01:34.46 | pleed | can someone please tell me where the question for the LUKS passphrase is in the initrd? i cant find it in init so what scripts are also executed? |
| 01:34.56 | sivik | ok, it worked that time doing dig @ns1.800hosting.com www.google.com |
| 01:34.59 | drwahl | sivik, JordiGH: i guess that either lenny or sid are running paravirtualized modules in the kernel? maybe i understood something wrong. |
| 01:35.00 | sivik | but ping is still not working |
| 01:35.07 | cmanns | I lost ssh access to my server :/ I'm still in 2 terminals but I cant open a new one putty says the connection was immediately dropped, Any ideas of where I should look to diagnose this? |
| 01:35.12 | sivik | drwahl, never heard of it |
| 01:35.17 | drwahl | JordiGH: startx give the same errors: Failed to load GLX module |
| 01:35.36 | Natilous | any one can help me ? how can redial automatic with ppp when i disconnect ? |
| 01:35.48 | simonrvn | sivik: Xen at wikipedia |
| 01:35.51 | JordiGH | drwahl: No clue, then. Sorry. |
| 01:36.02 | sivik | drwahl, can't help you if your doing it vmware, not sure |
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| 01:36.13 | abrotman | Natilous: i think it's the 'persist' option |
| 01:36.15 | sivik | Tamp: are you still there? |
| 01:36.17 | Tramp | sivik: huh. dig with the name works? So you have an entry for it in your /etc/hosts, I suppose. |
| 01:36.20 | JordiGH | Hey, did they rename Snowballz upstream? |
| 01:36.28 | JordiGH | Snowball Surprise? |
| 01:36.28 | drwahl | sivik: its not vmware |
| 01:36.35 | JordiGH | What's wrong with Snowballz? Snowie Ballz? |
| 01:36.46 | sivik | drwahl, i though thats what XEN was |
| 01:36.53 | sivik | a vm program |
| 01:37.10 | simonrvn | i could make a joke about an old man and balls, but i won't |
| 01:37.11 | cmang | cmanns: you have root ssh access? try... sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 01:37.14 | Natilous | abrotman: 'persist'? |
| 01:37.24 | sisk | Anyone have any idea why a Radeon x1950 wouldn't be detected as an ATI card? |
| 01:37.28 | cmanns | wouldnt that kill my current terminal? |
| 01:37.33 | Natilous | how can I do that ? |
| 01:37.34 | cmanns | I'm not at the localhost |
| 01:37.35 | sivik | Tramp, http://pastebin.com/m60d24890 |
| 01:37.44 | drwahl | sivik: i guess that lenny/sid moved to a similar thing (XEN was the first to use a paravirtualized kernel), lemme see if i can dig through some more logs |
| 01:37.49 | abrotman | Natilous: look in the man page |
| 01:38.17 | sivik | drwahl, i would just try running the drivers from the nvidia website instead of the non-free drivers from the repos |
| 01:38.26 | Natilous | abrotman: thanx |
| 01:38.28 | drwahl | JordiGH: startx also spits out a log of: expected keysym, got XF86LightOnOff |
| 01:38.29 | cmang | cmanns: it shouldn't kill your existing terminals. neither should sshd restart. your existing connections are running on forked off ssh processes that aren't affected. |
| 01:38.40 | drwahl | sivik: when i tried running that driver, it complained about vmmon module |
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| 01:38.44 | abrotman | cmanns: maybe you should use 'screen' |
| 01:38.47 | sivik | drwahl, not sure |
| 01:38.55 | sivik | drwahl, thats beyond my knowledge |
| 01:38.59 | drwahl | sivik: ok, thanks for the help all the same :) |
| 01:39.05 | sivik | sorry i couldn't help more |
| 01:39.24 | drwahl | no problem, one man cant fix all the problems in the world, that is why we have irc |
| 01:39.27 | drwahl | :) |
| 01:39.41 | sivik | lol |
| 01:39.42 | sivik | nice |
| 01:39.46 | cmanns | I ran it |
| 01:40.04 | sivik | Tramp: what else |
| 01:40.07 | cmanns | Said starting then I tried to open a new terminal and the connection was dropped again :3 |
| 01:41.04 | sivik | Tramp: does my hosts file need to look difference |
| 01:41.09 | Tramp | sivik: I'm slowly coming to the end of my line. ping www.google.it |
| 01:41.15 | sivik | google.it? |
| 01:41.19 | sivik | why not google.com |
| 01:41.31 | sivik | negative |
| 01:41.44 | Tramp | with "host not found" error again |
| 01:41.54 | sivik | unknown host |
| 01:42.02 | Tramp | yeah. right. |
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| 01:43.13 | sivik | Tramp: i'm at a total lost |
| 01:43.17 | stiv2k | how can i determine if a DVD is in PAL or NTSC format? |
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| 01:43.41 | Natilou1 | abrotman: pon has no option to redialing ! |
| 01:43.41 | cmang | cmanns: sounds like the sshd is croaking somewhere when it accepts the connections. did you check out your logs in /var/log ? Not sure if sshd errors would be in auth.log or messages .. you can also start sshd manually in debug mode by stopping the sshd service and then running the command, sshd -d |
| 01:43.50 | abrotman | Natilou1: man pppd |
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| 01:44.00 | cmanns | My buddy started looking into it and halted the system :( |
| 01:44.16 | Tramp | sivik: huh. So lets summarize. "dig @IP" works, so the NS is working for you. "dig @name" works too, for reasons I don't see, because you dont have it in your /etc/hosts. |
| 01:44.37 | sivik | yeah, i don't understand why its working either |
| 01:44.58 | Tramp | sivik: what gives dpkg -l nscd? |
| 01:45.30 | Natilou1 | abrotman: i use pppoe(adsl) must read pppd man ? |
| 01:45.33 | sivik | http://pastebin.com/m43ec0438 |
| 01:45.39 | simonrvn | yes |
| 01:45.43 | abrotman | Natilou1: i think pppoe still uses ppppd |
| 01:45.45 | abrotman | pppd |
| 01:45.49 | simonrvn | it does |
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| 01:46.10 | simonrvn | pppoe is a plugin for pppd |
| 01:46.11 | abrotman | i've never had the misfortune to have to use pppoe |
| 01:46.14 | Tramp | sivik: uh. Stop this bugger |
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| 01:46.25 | vnn | uhm does anyone know if AP MAC = BSSID? |
| 01:46.39 | sivik | Tramp: how do i stop it |
| 01:46.52 | Natilou1 | abrotman: ok , thanx |
| 01:47.03 | sivik | nvm, found it |
| 01:47.03 | Tramp | sivik: /etc/init.d/nscd stop. Then check with ps -ef, that it's dead. |
| 01:47.06 | vnn | hey Tramp, for the other day with bind, you got the right thing, just added the CIDR for my LAN and worked |
| 01:47.07 | vnn | :p |
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| 01:47.16 | onvsop | hello fellas :D |
| 01:47.25 | sivik | nothing there Tramp |
| 01:47.29 | onvsop | i was wondering what the best way to start software with kdm is |
| 01:47.31 | Tramp | vnn: Nice to hear it worked 8) |
| 01:47.36 | sivik | i normally use ps aux, is ps ef the same thing pretty much? |
| 01:47.43 | drwahl | when trying to install the nvidia driver (from nvidias website) i get the following error: Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module |
| 01:47.59 | Tramp | sivik: well, long story about this ps stuff. aux is fine as well. |
| 01:48.02 | sivik | ok |
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| 01:48.12 | sivik | Tramp: so what is nscd? and should it be working now |
| 01:48.19 | litage|w | does anyone else find this site to load very slowly, or is it just me?: http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/option |
| 01:48.21 | sivik | Tramp: bingo |
| 01:48.25 | onvsop | drwahl, did you use a pkg from the debian repository of the nvidia site? |
| 01:48.30 | Tramp | sivik: It's the "Name Service Cache Daemon" |
| 01:48.35 | sivik | ok |
| 01:48.40 | onvsop | whats the best way to start a program with kdm, in /etx/exsession? |
| 01:49.04 | drwahl | onvsop: from nvidias site, but if there is a package from the debian repository that enables 3d rendering, i would use that instead |
| 01:49.08 | sivik | Tramp: so just leave it off and it should fix, is there a way to clear this cache? |
| 01:49.11 | Tramp | sivik: remove this package. It is useless and IMHO broken and fsck with resolution in a way we just witnessed. |
| 01:49.24 | sivik | ok |
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| 01:49.46 | sigp239 | What is the command to check the percentage completion of an in-progress dd operation? |
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| 01:50.03 | sivik | Tramp: its gone |
| 01:50.23 | Tramp | sivik: oki. So now your resolution is working? |
| 01:50.29 | sivik | yes, pinging is working |
| 01:50.42 | JordiGH | in progress? I thought you could only do that from the beginning. |
| 01:50.55 | sivik | Tramp: thanks |
| 01:50.59 | Tramp | sivik: goog. Now either remove the resolvconf package as well or fix it, so that the word "nameserver" is correctly added |
| 01:51.13 | Tramp | s/goog/good/ |
| 01:51.14 | sivik | Tramp: yeah, i got it |
| 01:51.34 | Seb | dondelelcaro: yep,that works; grep -I -qE '.' seems to do it too... Thanks a lot ! |
| 01:51.45 | Tramp | sivik: ok. Then I would recommend to verify that it is reboot-safe. |
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| 01:52.32 | Tramp | sigp239: You can send the dd a sig - I thing it's USR1, but check the manpage |
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| 01:53.00 | Tramp | r3coba: you still there? |
| 01:53.39 | r3coba | yes |
| 01:54.07 | abrotman | sigp239: what are you doing with dd |
| 01:54.08 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:54.18 | Tramp | ok. Just 5 more minutes, I have a quick glance at this rescue CD |
| 01:55.15 | sigp239 | abrotman: I want to send a USR1 signal to a dd process in order to print I/O stats |
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| 01:55.22 | onvsop | drwahl: i thought the package from the debian repository supported 3d rendering |
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| 01:55.45 | onvsop | does anyone know what the best way to start a program with kdm is, in /etc/xsession? |
| 01:55.55 | r3coba | Tramp i used the fedora 6 installation, and this OS found the partitions, I deleted all of them and I've installed fedora, and now I have the grub loader and now I want to install windows but windows cd installation cant recognize it |
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| 01:56.09 | drwahl | can anyone verify that the nvidia driver in the debian repository (i assume non-free) support 3d rendering? |
| 01:56.27 | sigp239 | drwahl: there is nothing non-free in any debian repository |
| 01:56.33 | sketchysecurity | i can verify that the one available from nvidia work perfectly |
| 01:56.39 | insta | from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/, which image would i use if i wanted to install FROM a usb key? |
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| 01:56.59 | onvsop | there is the non-free repository |
| 01:57.02 | gotenks | :( how do i change the display adapter gdm uses on boot? |
| 01:57.14 | rhododendron | how do i find out which /dev/ttsX is my infrared-device? |
| 01:57.17 | sigp239 | sketchysecurity: the rootkit works perfectly too ;) |
| 01:57.27 | onvsop | sorry guys, does anyone know what the best way to start a program with kdm is, in /etc/xsession? |
| 01:57.31 | drwahl | sketchysecurity: you did not have any issues with the install complaining about nvidia.ko ? |
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| 01:58.40 | Tramp | r3coba: uh. Sorry. I have no idea how to install Windows. |
| 01:58.56 | sigp239 | How do I send a USR1 signal to a running ‘dd’ process makes it print I/O statistics to standard error and then resume copying. |
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| 01:59.40 | Tramp | r3coba: but you said the partitions are there - then the Windows you had installed is there as well and can be booted from grub |
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| 01:59.45 | gotenks | you need to have a NTFS or DOS partition for windows r3coba |
| 02:00.12 | insta | sigp239: do you know the PID of the dd process? |
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| 02:00.22 | sigp239 | insta: yes |
| 02:00.27 | insta | use kill then |
| 02:00.34 | gotenks | no help with changing the display adapter used by GDM when my debian boots? |
| 02:00.37 | insta | kill -p <pid> -USR1 |
| 02:00.38 | sigp239 | insta: but won't that kill the process? |
| 02:00.47 | gotenks | it's using a disabled display adapter |
| 02:00.53 | insta | kill sends any order of signals to a process, it just defaults to the "KILL" signal |
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| 02:01.06 | insta | double check the help on it first |
| 02:01.07 | drwahl | hmm... it seems that the ftp.debian.org repository is down |
| 02:01.15 | insta | to make sure i have the -USR1 syntax right |
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| 02:01.40 | hatter | can i add 2 s/w raided drives to a running system as extra storage if the current os drive stays as /dev/hda ? |
| 02:01.40 | sigp239 | insta: bash: kill: p: invalid signal specification |
| 02:02.04 | Kevin` | hatter of course. |
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| 02:02.31 | Tramp | sigp: without the "-p" |
| 02:03.02 | Tramp | kill -USR1 <pid> |
| 02:03.24 | insta | meanwhile, i am still looking for USB key installation media for debian... |
| 02:03.51 | sigp239 | Tramp;insta: Still not working |
| 02:04.33 | insta | you didn't kill the dd process, did you? |
| 02:04.40 | sigp239 | oops |
| 02:04.48 | drwahl | ftp.debian.org is down. is there a list somewhere of repos that i can replace it with? |
| 02:04.49 | insta | i told you to double-check me :( |
| 02:05.03 | insta | drwahl: i can get to ftp.us.debian.org just fine |
| 02:05.07 | Tramp | insta: you were right on the -USR1, just not on the -p 8) |
| 02:05.13 | drwahl | insta: hmm... its hanging for me |
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| 02:05.26 | sigp239 | ok it's working now thanks |
| 02:05.27 | r3coba | Tramp is but with fedora I've formated all partitions just to create a new mbr and for my recovery cds could find the hard drive but with no sucess |
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| 02:06.04 | Tramp | r3coba: oh. Then they are gone. |
| 02:06.12 | sigp239 | Is there an open nvidia 3D driver? |
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| 02:06.40 | Tramp | r3coba: unless you made them exact the same order/size they were before and did not mkfs. |
| 02:06.49 | gravity | sigp239: Yes, but it's not really ready for general use yet. |
| 02:07.19 | gravity | sigp239: It's called nouveau if you're interested |
| 02:07.23 | sigp239 | ok |
| 02:07.23 | hatter | Kevin`, yes of course. i am getting myself confused. |
| 02:07.34 | sigp239 | thanks |
| 02:08.31 | r3coba | Tramp what I want now is a clean hard drive where I can install any OS with no problems, how can I do it? |
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| 02:10.13 | Tramp | r3coba: well, after what you did it should be fine. You made a partition for your Winsomething. Make sure it has type FAT or NTFS, as gotenks mentioned before, then I see no reason, why the XP-Installer shouldnt find it. |
| 02:10.58 | Tramp | r3coba: However, when you install Win after Linux, it fsck up your MBR again, afaik, and you have to install grub again from another CD |
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| 02:11.57 | Tramp | r3coba: So I think the order is: Install Winsomething, install Debian (grub in MBR) configure grub so it chain-loads Winesomething. |
| 02:12.38 | Tramp | r3coba: oh and - sorry to say - there is no such thing as "no problems" 8) |
| 02:13.10 | r3coba | Tramp thats what I want.. but when I try to install the windows cant complete because cant found the harddrive |
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| 02:14.40 | onvsop | does anyone know which script starts kdm |
| 02:15.10 | Tramp | r3coba: Sorry, but this sounds more like a #winsomething problem to me. |
| 02:16.08 | abrotman | onvsop: /etc/X11/default-display-manager .. or /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm |
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| 02:16.16 | r3coba | nobody could help =( |
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| 02:17.21 | drwahl | ok, i'm getting closer :) now when i type: glxinfo, i get a seg fault |
| 02:17.53 | onvsop | cheers abrotman, so would that be agood place wo put other programs i would like to start with kdm>? |
| 02:18.09 | abrotman | program to start with kdm? |
| 02:18.33 | JordiGH | /etc/kde3/kdm/Xstartup or Xsetup? |
| 02:18.50 | onvsop | cheers "D |
| 02:18.51 | onvsop | :D |
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| 02:21.48 | FastPutty | is that normal tat i got a lot of TCP ACKed lost segment in eth0 and eth1 |
| 02:21.52 | FastPutty | is it because of my hub ? |
| 02:21.57 | FastPutty | or my firewall? |
| 02:22.17 | onvsop | thanks guys :D |
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| 02:25.58 | drwahl | any ideas why xorg wouldnt build? i just installed the nvidia driver (m-a a-i nvidia) and it removed xserver-xorg and xorg. now when i try to install xserver-xorg, apt says: error 10, Errors where encountered while processing: xserver-xorg |
| 02:26.32 | JordiGH | drwahl: Aren't the errors right there? And why are you building Xorg anyways? |
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| 02:27.31 | JordiGH | Oh, module prepare did it. |
| 02:27.32 | drwahl | JordiGH: when i installed the nvidia driver (via m-a a-i nvidia) it removed xorg, so now i am trying to reinstall it. there are no errors there, that is the wierd thing, only one line saying that it couldnt build it |
| 02:27.33 | JordiGH | Sorry. |
| 02:28.16 | ricosecada | Hi. I wanted to take a look on subversion so I installed it on testing. Looking at dpkg -L subversion there is no svn files. What packages are needed to use svn? |
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| 02:28.44 | cmanns | APT-GET hangs on ftp.debian.org :S |
| 02:29.18 | drwahl | cmanns: ftp.debian.org is down |
| 02:29.22 | cmanns | ah |
| 02:29.26 | drwahl | cmanns: switch to ftp.us.debian.org |
| 02:29.31 | ricosecada | aah, yes install problems |
| 02:29.32 | drwahl | if you are in the US that is |
| 02:29.36 | cmanns | hmm |
| 02:29.45 | cmanns | In my apt-get sources it has http:// :/ |
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| 02:30.24 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 02:30.24 | dpkg | debian mirrors is, like, http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-setup> or <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
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| 02:30.34 | abrotman | cmanns: you want http://<hostname> |
| 02:30.36 | cmanns | thx abrotman |
| 02:30.58 | cmanns | Just updated the kernel, hopefully the server comes back online :D |
| 02:30.58 | abrotman | cmanns: if you're in CA .. use the berkeley mirror or something |
| 02:31.00 | Sisk | Anyone know when we can expect a 2.6.23 kernel in the repo? |
| 02:31.02 | abrotman | no |
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| 02:32.23 | dondelelcaro | Sisk: sooner if you help |
| 02:32.57 | catbot | anybody have used guake? |
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| 02:33.46 | PDani | hi |
| 02:33.58 | PDani | why isn't claws-mail in debian lenny? |
| 02:34.18 | drwahl | now i cant install or remove xserver-xorg... apt just keeps complaining about "post installation script error" |
| 02:34.46 | gotenks | how do i find out what video driver i'm currently using? |
| 02:34.59 | cmanns | in the xorg configureation file i presume |
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| 02:35.04 | Sisk | dandelelcaro: I'd be glad to help. I was actually thinking about downloading the source and compiling it myself anyway. The only thing that keeps me from it is finding the time. |
| 02:35.22 | gravity | drwahl: sid? |
| 02:35.26 | drwahl | gravity: ya |
| 02:35.37 | gravity | drwahl: I'm uploading a fix in about 10 minutes |
| 02:35.49 | drwahl | gravity: ok, is there anything i need to do in the mean time? |
| 02:35.54 | gravity | gotenks: You can look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 02:36.00 | gravity | drwahl: Nope, it should just work when you download |
| 02:36.07 | PDani | hm? any info about claws-mail? |
| 02:36.15 | gravity | drwahl: I can post it somewhere beforehand if you want it |
| 02:36.23 | drwahl | gravity: will it be in the ftp.us.debian.org repo? |
| 02:36.26 | gravity | drwahl: Or you can pull it from our git repo and just build it yourself |
| 02:36.27 | gravity | drwahl: Yes |
| 02:36.32 | gravity | drwahl: Next mirror pulse |
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| 02:36.50 | drwahl | gravity: what is the interval for the mirror pulse? |
| 02:37.06 | gravity | drwahl: Every 12 hours |
| 02:37.30 | cmanns | crap, 8 mins and the server still isnt responding =( |
| 02:37.30 | unix_infidel | anyone running debian off of a usb drive? |
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| 02:37.53 | unix_infidel | erm portable 3.5 inch drive |
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| 02:38.01 | drwahl | gravity: i'm not sure if i want to want 12 hours, but i dont think i can build it on my own. is there some other repo i could add that would allow apt to build it for me? |
| 02:39.12 | gotenks | gravity... i can't use that one... |
| 02:39.33 | gravity | gotenks: Huh? |
| 02:39.34 | gotenks | gdm boots to the wrong display adapter (the one that's disabled in the bios) |
| 02:39.44 | gotenks | i need to see the one the command line is using |
| 02:39.49 | gotenks | (single user mode) |
| 02:39.52 | gravity | drwahl: Yeah, I'll put it in the X Strike Force repo on alioth. I'll let you know when it's done |
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| 02:40.36 | gravity | gotenks: You can't check the Xorg log file? |
| 02:41.06 | gotenks | it says intel which is the disabled onboard video card |
| 02:41.15 | drwahl | gravity: you are my hero :) |
| 02:41.16 | gotenks | i'm trying to figure out which driver the nVidia is using |
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| 02:41.58 | Perhaps | Hi, I have a question about pkg-config. I installed it using apt-get. But when I run pkg-config --list-all it lists nothing |
| 02:42.33 | Perhaps | it seems to have no information about any packages |
| 02:42.34 | gravity | gotenks: The log file is exactly what you want to look at every time |
| 02:43.24 | gravity | Perhaps: Do you not have any -dev packages installed? |
| 02:43.37 | gravity | Perhaps: .pc files are kept in -dev packages on Debian |
| 02:43.40 | Perhaps | I see |
| 02:44.02 | Perhaps | I don't see an openssl-dev package |
| 02:44.06 | trentg | Does any package provide esdplay? I search but couldn't find anything |
| 02:44.08 | gotenks | gravity it is saying the intel driver in the log |
| 02:44.15 | gotenks | that's the driver i'm trying not to use |
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| 02:44.31 | gotenks | since that display adapter is not functional with my geforce installed |
| 02:45.01 | gravity | gotenks: So you need to configure X to use your nvidia driver |
| 02:45.09 | gotenks | exactly |
| 02:45.26 | gotenks | which is why i had to boot to command line (single user mode) |
| 02:45.38 | gotenks | now how do i find the driver i'm currently using... since i'm not in X |
| 02:45.45 | Perhaps | libcurl3-openssl-dev must be what i'm looking for |
| 02:45.51 | gravity | gotenks: You're not using a driver in console mode |
| 02:46.02 | gotenks | ok... |
| 02:46.03 | gravity | Well, maybe some freakish fbdev thing |
| 02:46.17 | gravity | But that's neither here nor there for getting X working |
| 02:46.27 | gotenks | so how can i tell it the right one? |
| 02:46.30 | gravity | gotenks: Run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 02:46.32 | gravity | As root |
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| 02:46.40 | gravity | gotenks: Choose "nv" when it lets you pick the driver |
| 02:46.51 | Perhaps | gravity: thanks for the tip |
| 02:47.01 | gravity | gotenks: For everything else, you should be able to just hit enter and use the default that's already there |
| 02:47.04 | gravity | Perhaps: No problem |
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| 02:48.22 | Sisk | unix_infidel: I've got an installation on my flash drive. Should be pretty close to the same thing. |
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| 02:49.22 | mmlj4 | ok, this is starting to tick me off... if I turn off cyris imap in postfix's files, mail works as expected, to the unix mailboxes. However, if I enable imap, I can send mail from the shell and mail gets delivered to the imap mailboxes, but I cannot send mail to the box from another host without getting the error "Mailbox does not exist". Ideas? |
| 02:49.56 | gotenks | gravity, i'm rebooting to see if that worked |
| 02:50.37 | cmanns | So to change the apt-get sources what'd i do? |
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| 02:52.08 | cmanns | deb ftp://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ dists/etch/main |
| 02:52.09 | cmanns | ? |
| 02:52.40 | gotenks | gravity, now it's saying no screens found :( |
| 02:52.58 | sayers | ftp.debian.org is down ? |
| 02:53.05 | cmanns | yeah |
| 02:53.08 | gravity | gotenks: Check the log file |
| 02:53.29 | sayers | cmanns, and this time I need it :p |
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| 02:53.38 | cmanns | Add .us |
| 02:53.44 | cmanns | ftp.us.debian.org |
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| 02:53.48 | sayers | ah okay |
| 02:53.51 | cmanns | Works :D |
| 02:54.16 | cmanns | mmm |
| 02:54.18 | cmanns | this server is nice |
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| 02:54.43 | steveie | penis |
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| 02:54.50 | gotenks | i tried the commands again |
| 02:55.08 | gotenks | i'll reboot and try it again |
| 02:55.40 | steveie | penis |
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| 02:56.33 | gotenks | NV No matching device section for the instance (BusID PCI:1:7:0) found |
| 02:56.35 | gotenks | :/ |
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| 02:59.43 | tobias | is there any way to purge a package i've already removed, without reinstalling it? (dependencies issues prevent that from happening) |
| 02:59.55 | gravity | drwahl: Ok, you should be able to add "deb http://pkg-xorg.alioth.debian.org/debian ./" to your sources.list. Be careful though, you may not want the other packages in that repo |
| 03:00.06 | drwahl | gravity: thanks a million! |
| 03:00.13 | gravity | drwahl: Anything with a version of 7.3+5 is what I uploaded to unstable |
| 03:00.22 | sayers | what is the name of the build-tools package? |
| 03:00.37 | gravity | sayers: build-essential has some build tools |
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| 03:02.20 | drwahl | gravity: i still cant seem to remove xserver-xorg |
| 03:02.36 | drwahl | something about the pre-removal script not working... |
| 03:02.53 | gravity | drwahl: Ok, that's disturbing, but why are you removing it? |
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| 03:03.28 | drwahl | gravity: because when i tried to install it, it was still compalaning (same issue, but with post-install script) |
| 03:04.01 | gotenks | thank you for your help gravity, i had to comment out the BUSID |
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| 03:04.14 | Braden` | hello |
| 03:04.15 | gotenks | you helped immensly |
| 03:04.24 | Braden` | I installed the php5 and apache2 packages. |
| 03:04.28 | drwahl | gravity: err |
| 03:04.28 | gravity | gotenks: Yeah, that'd do it |
| 03:04.37 | gravity | God, I need to get rid of that question |
| 03:04.42 | Braden` | I ran a2enmod php5 to ensure the php5 module was enabled |
| 03:04.44 | Braden` | But |
| 03:04.46 | gravity | Probably tonight |
| 03:05.02 | gravity | hrm... |
| 03:05.06 | Braden` | When I restart apache2, and browse the server, it tries to give me the php file |
| 03:05.13 | Braden` | Am I missing a step? |
| 03:05.22 | drwahl | gravity: when i try to install, it complains about other deps that "wont be installed" (xserver-xorg-core 2:1.4-3 for example) |
| 03:05.38 | gravity | drwahl: You're not running the xserver from unstable? |
| 03:06.46 | drwahl | gravity: lemme run you through what happened, maybe that will clear something up. i was having issues with my nvidia driver, so i reinstalled it via m-a a-i nvidia. that command removed xorg, and when i tried to reinstall it, well, you came into the channel, so you know the rest. |
| 03:06.55 | gravity | oh man |
| 03:07.02 | gravity | drwahl: Yeah, I can't really help with the nvidia driver |
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| 03:07.14 | gravity | drwahl: I don't have the source so I can't do anything about it. Sorry. |
| 03:07.38 | drwahl | gravity: i dont think it is related to the nvidia driver (directly). |
| 03:07.54 | gravity | drwahl: Right, it's all the other stuff around it. Like I said, I can't really handle it. |
| 03:08.36 | drwahl | i'm kinda confused now. the issue, as i understand, is something about the pre-removal and post-install scripts around the xserver-xorg installer |
| 03:08.40 | gravity | Anyway, I have to go. Someone else with more experience with that driver might be able to help you |
| 03:09.05 | gravity | drwahl: right, but the scripts require certain package versions to set you up properly. If you don't have those versions because of the nvidia driver, I can't do anything |
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| 03:09.19 | gravity | drwahl: Anyway, I have to go afk for a bit, sorry. |
| 03:09.23 | drwahl | gravity: ah, that makes sence, alright. thanks! |
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| 03:15.03 | Braden` | I installed the php5 and apache2 packages. |
| 03:15.12 | Braden` | I ran a2enmod php5 to ensure the php5 module was enabled |
| 03:15.28 | Braden` | When I restart apache2, and browse the server, it tries to give me the php file |
| 03:15.49 | Zippy2 | add a handler. rtfm. |
| 03:16.21 | Braden` | Sounds like you are the one who needs to. The handlers are added via the a2enmod |
| 03:16.24 | Zippy2 | man, chroot is awesome |
| 03:16.29 | Zippy2 | Braden`: whatever, it still doesnt work |
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| 03:16.49 | Braden` | Unfortunatly, true. |
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| 03:17.00 | Zippy2 | Braden`: go to the apache config status page |
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| 03:17.13 | Zippy2 | the info to it is in the config |
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| 03:18.32 | wols_ | Braden`: dpkg -l |grep php5 |
| 03:18.42 | muhoo | sendmail sucks. exim4 sucks. is there a simpler, easier MUA for debian. |
| 03:18.49 | wols_ | muhoo: postfix |
| 03:18.54 | muhoo | thanks |
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| 03:20.45 | wols_ | Braden`: a2enmode shouldn't be necessary at all btw |
| 03:21.24 | Braden` | ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.0-8+etch7 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag |
| 03:21.24 | Braden` | ii php5 5.2.0-8+etch7 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag |
| 03:21.24 | Braden` | ii php5-common 5.2.0-8+etch7 Common files for packages built from the php |
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| 03:21.29 | Braden` | Those |
| 03:21.50 | wols_ | have you restarted apache2? |
| 03:21.56 | Braden` | Many times |
| 03:21.57 | Braden` | =/ |
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| 03:22.30 | wols_ | grep -r php5 /etc/apache2/* to check all config files are set up right |
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| 03:25.10 | Braden` | http://rafb.net/p/22213N92.html |
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| 03:27.46 | catbot | why i use lenny as boot image for network installing, i also get a version called etch, why not lenny? |
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| 03:29.02 | abrotman | Braden`: clear brower cache and restart it |
| 03:30.48 | Braden` | Yep, that fixed it |
| 03:30.50 | Braden` | Thank you |
| 03:30.51 | Braden` | =] |
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| 03:32.03 | ghatak | Hi, how do i tell which interface on my box is connected to which port on switch. I have three interfaces, each connected to different port on a switch. Of course I can pull out the cable to see which one is which, I am wondering if I can do that without pulling out the cable. |
| 03:32.19 | ghatak | may be it is useful in live environments |
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| 03:34.05 | wols_ | catbot: cause lenny is not stable |
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| 03:34.48 | Nyle | yer not stable |
| 03:36.31 | catbot | wols_, your means that just stable version can be installed from network? |
| 03:37.16 | catbot | i would like to directly try new version |
| 03:37.39 | wols_ | it is not "new" |
| 03:38.09 | catbot | my mean is lenny version |
| 03:38.20 | wols_ | you can install anything your want. when testing or unstable break (and they WILL break), and you then come to us to fix it for your, we will only point and laugh. we will laugh loudy |
| 03:38.38 | wols_ | *loutdly |
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| 03:45.24 | angelizho | El-aLEX |
| 03:45.48 | El-aLEX | oka |
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| 03:54.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | hi, I am just filing a bug report against xpdf in testing/unstable. Both the pdf documents in this Ubuntu bug print incorrectly for me using xpdf (!), but print correctly using kpdf |
| 03:54.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | could someone reproduce that, before I file the bug? |
| 03:54.59 | lontra | CutMeOwnThroat: out of curiousity ... it sounds like your running ubuntu and ubuntu packages ... why do you think it's a bug in debian? |
| 03:55.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 03:55.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | I am not |
| 03:55.08 | lontra | oh ok |
| 03:55.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm running debian |
| 03:55.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I found that ubuntu bug when searching for the cause |
| 03:55.29 | lontra | ok i was confused :S |
| 03:55.50 | lontra | CutMeOwnThroat: i would but i don't have kpdf installed |
| 03:55.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | no need |
| 03:56.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | the bug is against xpdf |
| 03:56.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | :) |
| 03:56.12 | lontra | CutMeOwnThroat: ok ... what's the file? |
| 03:56.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/3887597/booking_form_2006.pdf |
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| 03:56.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | and |
| 03:56.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/3887601/Camp_Diary_2006.pdf |
| 03:56.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps upgrade to the latest testing/unstable version of xpdf |
| 03:57.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | both display nicely, but print portrait (i.e. are cut off) |
| 03:57.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually all landscape seem to do that for me now printing from xpdf |
| 03:57.55 | lontra | hrm ... |
| 03:58.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | eh? |
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| 03:58.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh my god, it killed him... what have I done |
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| 04:01.42 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: hrm... that PDF doesn't seem to have the right specifications on it |
| 04:02.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I can provide my self-made one... |
| 04:02.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually, at least the last version of xpdf prints *all* landscape pdfs I found incorrectly |
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| 04:03.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | moment |
| 04:03.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://nw.ath.cx/~k/nup.pdf |
| 04:03.23 | dalias | is there a way to kill the bookmarks sidebar in recent versions of xpdf? |
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| 04:03.32 | dalias | it's a huge waste of screen space |
| 04:03.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | what bookmarks sidebar? |
| 04:03.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, that |
| 04:03.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can make it smaller |
| 04:03.44 | dalias | it opens if the pdf contains 'bookmarks' |
| 04:03.46 | dalias | yes |
| 04:03.53 | dalias | but i mean make it automatically start at 0 size |
| 04:04.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | bookmarks? |
| 04:04.04 | dalias | like a resource for it |
| 04:04.06 | dalias | yeah |
| 04:04.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | it doesnt say anything for me |
| 04:04.08 | dondelelcaro | dalias: so use closeOutline |
| 04:04.16 | dalias | dondelelcaro, i want it done by default at startup |
| 04:04.22 | dalias | without having to press keys |
| 04:04.41 | dondelelcaro | dalias: yes, so stick that in your .xpdfrc |
| 04:04.50 | dalias | xpdfrc can contain commands? |
| 04:05.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: how did you check that pdf, btw? |
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| 04:05.08 | dalias | how? just the command on a line by itself? |
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| 04:05.31 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: I looked at the PS it produces |
| 04:05.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: the one I just provided should hopefully be fine - it was made using gnuplot -> ps2pdf -> pdfnup |
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| 04:08.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | but actually it already prints incorrectly after the ps2pdf step |
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| 04:24.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh |
| 04:24.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | so, does it print for you? |
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| 04:37.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well, I'll just file it |
| 04:37.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | just wondered if one could narrow it down a bit more |
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| 04:45.28 | FastPutty | ok GUYS |
| 04:45.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | Apan: finished? |
| 04:45.33 | FastPutty | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.40 | FastPutty | I have a iptables installed and debian as router |
| 04:45.46 | FastPutty | I lost o many tcp ack segement |
| 04:45.51 | FastPutty | someone could help me or have an idea |
| 04:46.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | Eat dinner |
| 04:46.29 | FastPutty | this is urgent please |
| 04:46.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | you will feel better :) |
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| 04:47.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | maybe, but... it wasnt a question and I at least do not understand what you're talking about |
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| 04:47.47 | svzard | hi, anybody knows how to enable support for indic fonts in debian? |
| 04:48.15 | svzard | hi, anybody knows how to enable support for indic fonts in debian? |
| 04:48.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | svzard: perhaps with this? ttf-indic-fonts - Metapackage for free Indian language fonts |
| 04:48.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | apt-get install ttf-indic-fonts |
| 04:48.49 | dalias | svzard, just installing the fonts is all you need to do |
| 04:49.08 | dalias | debian does not have crippled packages which intentionally omit indic ligature support |
| 04:49.19 | svzard | i'll try n get back.. |
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| 04:49.30 | dalias | if indic fails to work in a program, it just means the upstream package lacks the proper rendering features entirely |
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| 04:49.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | should it have? |
| 04:49.44 | dalias | not that debian intentionally turned them off like ubuntu, redhat, etc. do.. |
| 04:49.51 | dalias | cutmeownthroat, ? |
| 04:49.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | they do? |
| 04:50.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | how do they do that? |
| 04:50.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | sounds weird |
| 04:50.10 | dalias | MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 |
| 04:50.13 | dalias | for instance |
| 04:50.19 | dalias | or --disable-pango at build time |
| 04:50.20 | dalias | etc. |
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| 04:50.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok |
| 04:51.31 | svzard | i'm getting error msg as package not available, has no installation candidate... |
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| 04:52.05 | wols_ | !tel svzard about bat |
| 04:52.12 | wols_ | !tell svzard about bat |
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| 04:56.50 | FastPutty | no one have eva configure A FIREWALL DEBIAN this is urgent pelase |
| 04:57.10 | svzard | i dont know about pasting outputs. i just copied the output of 'apt-get install ttf-indic-fonts' in the text box provided and clicked 'upload dont know where it uploaded! |
| 04:59.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | FastPutty: e.g. you could give us the output iptables-save |
| 04:59.05 | liable | FastPutty: try #iptables or install one of the various iptables frontends |
| 04:59.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | FastPutty: that would be much more helpful than repeating "this is urgent" or stuff like that |
| 05:00.17 | svzard | hi wols_, i dont know much abt irc. just trying it coz u get help in real-time. whats the leading '!' mean? wht info do u exactly want from me? |
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| 05:03.43 | DarkBahamut | hi everyone |
| 05:03.56 | sk8r-365 | DB! |
| 05:03.57 | Unwise | gm |
| 05:04.05 | DarkBahamut | :D |
| 05:04.12 | sk8r-365 | How can I help? |
| 05:04.27 | DarkBahamut | hmm |
| 05:04.30 | lokkju | what would be the options for streaming logs to a remote server? My issue is that I have a small embedded device that is doing content filtering on the edge of the network, and I want to have the output of a command (which is monitoring the traffic) stream to one of the other servers |
| 05:04.39 | wols_ | svzard: dpkg messaged you something |
| 05:04.41 | wols_ | !bat |
| 05:04.42 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete ouptut of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run; the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste or #flood to provide us with this information. |
| 05:04.43 | wols_ | this |
| 05:04.43 | sk8r-365 | Where are things now - better? |
| 05:04.47 | lokkju | so, some sort of output redirector |
| 05:04.52 | DarkBahamut | im not rly sure sk8 |
| 05:04.58 | DarkBahamut | i tried everything |
| 05:05.01 | DarkBahamut | that you told me |
| 05:05.02 | lokkju | but redirect it to a remote server instead of to a file |
| 05:05.05 | DarkBahamut | and nothing is working |
| 05:05.14 | sk8r-365 | blk screen still? |
| 05:05.18 | DarkBahamut | yea |
| 05:05.24 | sk8r-365 | for root 2? |
| 05:05.42 | DarkBahamut | and when i use the monitor sometimes i get black and sometimes i get the desktop |
| 05:05.53 | svzard | i pasted the output in the given url n clicked upload |
| 05:06.05 | sk8r-365 | nothing with the biult on screen? |
| 05:06.06 | wols_ | svzard: you need to click "send" |
| 05:06.09 | DarkBahamut | both are the same root and other |
| 05:06.33 | sk8r-365 | is the Driver vesa? |
| 05:06.37 | DarkBahamut | yup |
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| 05:06.43 | DarkBahamut | i tried vesa and nv |
| 05:06.48 | sk8r-365 | sane with NV? |
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| 05:07.04 | DarkBahamut | yup |
| 05:07.16 | Unwise | aha! |
| 05:07.18 | DarkBahamut | brb real fast |
| 05:07.38 | sk8r-365 | so, we had it once but only right after edting and doing startx |
| 05:07.52 | svzard | wht a dumber i am. upload is to upload a file after mentioning the path to the file isn't it? ok. i clicked 'send' now. |
| 05:08.13 | svzard | did u get it wols_? |
| 05:08.15 | sk8r-365 | brb? |
| 05:08.26 | wols_ | svzard: you should tell us the url... |
| 05:08.29 | DarkBahamut | brb is be right back lol |
| 05:08.36 | sk8r-365 | oh |
| 05:08.37 | DarkBahamut | umm yea correct |
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| 05:08.54 | sk8r-365 | what happens when you do startx now? |
| 05:09.02 | wols_ | svzard: pastebin your sources.list |
| 05:09.04 | DarkBahamut | black screen |
| 05:09.05 | svzard | http://paste.debian.net/42455, is that correct? |
| 05:09.21 | sk8r-365 | brb |
| 05:09.24 | DarkBahamut | k |
| 05:09.27 | wols_ | svzard: yes it is correct, but now paste your sources.list |
| 05:09.43 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: it helps if you tell the whole channel your problem btw. increases chances of help |
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| 05:09.59 | DarkBahamut | umm sure i guess |
| 05:10.09 | sk8r-365 | ok |
| 05:10.12 | DarkBahamut | sk8r knows my problem from a newsgroup |
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| 05:10.21 | DarkBahamut | thats why i have limited info now |
| 05:10.23 | wols_ | at least if it's quite some time since you told it to the channel (occupancy fluctuates here over time) |
| 05:10.28 | Merphy | hi every body |
| 05:10.40 | DarkBahamut | hi merphy |
| 05:10.47 | Unwise | I fluctuate madly... |
| 05:10.52 | sk8r-365 | his multi-boot HP lappy with new Etch has blk scren at NFS |
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| 05:11.14 | wols_ | nfs? |
| 05:11.16 | DarkBahamut | woa you explained it all in 1 line just about lol |
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| 05:11.25 | Merphy | I just have installed debian net inst, used dselect to install more packs but it seems cumbersome, any usr friendly method? |
| 05:11.26 | sk8r-365 | lol |
| 05:11.28 | Unwise | when nfs starts? |
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| 05:12.02 | wols_ | Merphy: aptitude |
| 05:12.02 | sk8r-365 | has to drop drop dwn to console 1 the do anything |
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| 05:12.10 | wols_ | Merphy: read the debian release notes for example. dselect is out of date for more than 5 years now I think. 3 debian versions back |
| 05:12.12 | Merphy | thnx let me try |
| 05:12.17 | svzard | http://paste.debian.net/42456, here is my sources.list from /etc/apt |
| 05:12.21 | wols_ | svzard: what do you man with nfs? |
| 05:12.35 | Unwise | at least he can do that... so it's x starting that goes black? |
| 05:12.41 | wols_ | !tell svzard abour mirrors |
| 05:12.48 | wols_ | svzard: you need to add a (local) debian mirror |
| 05:12.50 | DarkBahamut | yup |
| 05:12.55 | sk8r-365 | check the thread here http://tinyurl.com/32mg3b |
| 05:13.04 | Merphy | lol |
| 05:13.05 | wols_ | svzard: right now you only have access to a 23th of all debian software |
| 05:13.06 | Merphy | thnx |
| 05:13.13 | sk8r-365 | never gets past booting |
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| 05:13.28 | sk8r-365 | I think it's a problem with X |
| 05:13.34 | Unwise | yup |
| 05:13.45 | svzard | how to add the mirror. actually i had canceled network detection during install is tht the culprit? |
| 05:13.48 | DarkBahamut | oh yah 1 thing i forgot to say b4 |
| 05:13.51 | Unwise | paste lspci please |
| 05:14.02 | sk8r-365 | DB - did you get the sync rates set? |
| 05:14.04 | DarkBahamut | when i did the install it said something about the swap partition |
| 05:14.15 | sk8r-365 | YOu have a swap? |
| 05:14.21 | DarkBahamut | yup |
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| 05:14.26 | Unwise | I hpe so... |
| 05:14.27 | DarkBahamut | swap partition |
| 05:14.32 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: can you fianlly state your problem? |
| 05:14.47 | aliljet | hey, i've got a weird question ... but I've got a situation where I can SSH into a box at work, but I can't SSH out of that box back to my personal box... I can think of ways to resolve this, but is there some kind of easy/clever way to leave the connection open so I can run a ssh connection back to my persoanl box? |
| 05:14.51 | wols_ | cause nfs means network file system unde linux... so what sk8r-365 is gibberish |
| 05:14.52 | sk8r-365 | Here's his swap dev/sda6 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 05:15.10 | sk8r-365 | his prob is no X |
| 05:15.21 | wols_ | !tell svzard about mirrors |
| 05:15.25 | DarkBahamut | wols: when i boot linux after all the text i get a black screen |
| 05:15.30 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: pastebin your xorg.log |
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| 05:15.34 | DarkBahamut | debian etch |
| 05:15.39 | DarkBahamut | k |
| 05:15.40 | Unwise | aliljet: you need a server set up on the box you want to ssh to... |
| 05:15.41 | dalias | aliljet, setup forwarding over ssh |
| 05:15.51 | dalias | i.e. ssh from home to work |
| 05:15.59 | aliljet | dalias: yeah.. |
| 05:16.02 | dalias | and inside that ssh session, tunnel some port on the work box back to home |
| 05:16.04 | sk8r-365 | he's newbie - he's on same machine w/ MS and can't show it now |
| 05:16.08 | aliljet | Unwise: there are ssh servers and clients on both boxes. |
| 05:16.15 | dalias | and don't come crying to us if you get fired :) |
| 05:16.17 | wols_ | sk8r-365: that's wrong. there are ways |
| 05:16.22 | Unwise | oh. |
| 05:16.23 | sk8r-365 | teach us |
| 05:16.27 | aliljet | dalias: hehe, that seems clever enough, let me try it out |
| 05:16.32 | wols_ | what is the linux filesystem? |
| 05:16.38 | DarkBahamut | afk getting xorg.conf |
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| 05:16.53 | sk8r-365 | ext3 |
| 05:16.54 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: what is your linuxfilesystem? |
| 05:16.59 | wols_ | then get explore2fs. google it |
| 05:17.02 | aliljet | dalias: actually, that won't work .. the box is not allowed to make outbound connections |
| 05:17.03 | [meme] | iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request |
| 05:17.19 | aliljet | dalias: except for on 80 and 443 ... |
| 05:17.32 | dalias | it doesn't have to make outbound connections |
| 05:17.35 | wols_ | aliljet: none at all? cause if it isn't able to make any outgoing connections you don#t have internet |
| 05:17.42 | [meme] | Does any one can tell me what will the following rule do?: iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request |
| 05:17.45 | dalias | do you know how ssh forwarding works? |
| 05:17.47 | DarkBahamut | post my xorg.conf on here? |
| 05:17.55 | DarkBahamut | isnt that like spamming? |
| 05:17.58 | aliljet | dalias: honestly, I'm not completely sure |
| 05:18.01 | simonrvn | [meme]: nothing |
| 05:18.03 | dalias | on the work box, you would ssh -p whatever localhost |
| 05:18.13 | sk8r-365 | http://tinyurl.com/32mg3b has it |
| 05:18.17 | wols_ | [meme]: it doesn't do anything since it has no "action" to do |
| 05:18.18 | aliljet | dalias: yeah.. |
| 05:18.27 | dalias | and that would travel back thru the ssh (which you left open) to port 22 on your home box |
| 05:18.37 | [meme] | simonrvn: nothing? I was told it was used four accounting |
| 05:18.53 | aliljet | dalias: ahhh, that makes complete sense. i'm an idiot. thanks =) |
| 05:19.00 | simonrvn | uh, LOG target maybe... |
| 05:19.09 | wols_ | sk8r-365: do you even know what an xorg log is? |
| 05:19.10 | [meme] | if you use that rule and do a iptables -L -v you will se the number of packets matching! |
| 05:19.17 | simonrvn | then you'll actually be keeping track of it |
| 05:19.22 | sk8r-365 | yes - DB doesn't |
| 05:19.32 | simonrvn | oh my! |
| 05:19.35 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: send it to past.debian.net |
| 05:19.47 | DarkBahamut | cool the whole newsgroup is on there |
| 05:19.54 | wols_ | sk8r-365: you don't either. what you pointed at has no log anywhere,.it has a xorg.conf and for wahtever reason a menu.lst |
| 05:20.03 | sk8r-365 | wols_ it's at the tinyurl posted here |
| 05:20.03 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: paste.debian.net |
| 05:20.14 | DarkBahamut | ? |
| 05:20.20 | wols_ | sk8r-365: I loked at the tinyurl. which of the 51 posts has it then? |
| 05:20.27 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: your xorg.log |
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| 05:20.43 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: get explore2fs for your windows to see it from your current windwso |
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| 05:20.45 | sk8r-365 | top thread near base |
| 05:20.52 | DarkBahamut | i got it |
| 05:20.58 | DarkBahamut | paste it in this chat? |
| 05:21.03 | wols_ | sk8r-365: there a 51 postings at the url you mentioned. which number has it? |
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| 05:21.11 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: NO. paste.debian.net |
| 05:21.28 | DarkBahamut | k brb |
| 05:21.30 | sk8r-365 | it's the first on that pg |
| 05:21.31 | Davey--_ | OK, so I'm recovering from a crash, and I forget how to setup BIND... it should be as simple as sudo apt-get install bind && cp -R /backup/etc/bind /etc/bind - right? |
| 05:21.40 | sk8r-365 | 26 |
| 05:22.04 | wols_ | sk8r-365: 26 is menu.lst |
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| 05:22.20 | sk8r-365 | scrool down |
| 05:22.21 | wols_ | sk8r-365: and a fdisk -l output |
| 05:22.30 | DarkBahamut | how do i use this paste.debian.net? |
| 05:22.38 | wols_ | sk8r-365: I DID. there is no xorg.log. now go away until you know what a xorg.log is |
| 05:22.54 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: you paste in the text in the big field and press send |
| 05:23.03 | sk8r-365 | no, thought you asked for FS type |
| 05:23.33 | sk8r-365 | DB doesn't know how to read /var/log/ |
| 05:23.35 | wols_ | how does xorg.log which is ALL I asked for translate to "FS type" in your universe? |
| 05:23.46 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.53 | sk8r-365 | I mis-read another here? |
| 05:24.04 | DarkBahamut | http://paste.debian.net/42457 thats my xorg.conf |
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| 05:24.14 | DarkBahamut | do you want the log also? |
| 05:24.16 | ^wolf | Hey |
| 05:24.21 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: I doN#t want your xorg.conf. I want your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 05:24.42 | DarkBahamut | sry bout that ill get it now |
| 05:24.56 | Unwise | pulling teeth |
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| 05:25.10 | sk8r-365 | wol_s - he's new - be patient |
| 05:25.53 | wols_ | sk8r-365: I'm patient with him. you however... |
| 05:26.07 | ^wolf | I'm having trouble compiling some software on my server, autogen doesn't make any config files. I was hoping someone would take a look at the log and tell me what it is I'm missing :/ |
| 05:26.10 | ^wolf | http://67.207.129.26/conf.log |
| 05:26.11 | sk8r-365 | I'm a slow typist |
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| 05:27.06 | DarkBahamut | http://paste.debian.net/42458 |
| 05:27.15 | Unwise | Yeesh. anyways an Nvidia on a laptop may see problems until he pulls domething in from non-free, and he may have to go with proprietary... |
| 05:27.31 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: delete your xorg.conf, then run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. |
| 05:27.34 | DarkBahamut | err wrong 1 brb |
| 05:27.42 | DarkBahamut | i did that |
| 05:27.49 | wols_ | (EE) Problem parsing the config file |
| 05:27.50 | DarkBahamut | didnt work |
| 05:27.53 | wols_ | do it |
| 05:28.00 | wols_ | your config file is broken. |
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| 05:28.26 | DarkBahamut | k |
| 05:28.53 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: you basically have TWO times the data in your xorg.conf file |
| 05:29.00 | wols_ | as if someone copied two xorg.conf files together |
| 05:29.40 | DarkBahamut | weird i thought i fixed that |
| 05:29.43 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: if you want help while configuring X in dbeian, install irssi (aptitutde install irssi-text on the console |
| 05:30.05 | aliljet | dalias: hmm ... if I can ssh into the other server, but I can't normally ssh back ... how does running a command like "ssh -l someuser -L localport:myhost:remoteport cat -" help? |
| 05:30.06 | wols_ | then you can /connect irc.freenode.net and /join debian inside of irssi |
| 05:30.15 | DarkBahamut | o cool |
| 05:30.22 | wols_ | aliljet: does sshd run on both ends. yes or no? |
| 05:30.32 | aliljet | wols_: yes |
| 05:30.45 | wols_ | is port 22 accessible from the internet on both ends? |
| 05:30.59 | DarkBahamut | can i do all this on singel user mode? |
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| 05:31.05 | DarkBahamut | single* |
| 05:31.08 | aliljet | wols_: on my end it is, on the other end I can only get to the machine, but I can't get out |
| 05:31.10 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: no |
| 05:31.18 | DarkBahamut | i have to be on desktop? |
| 05:31.28 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: no. you need to be in text mode |
| 05:31.44 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: what if you boot debian normally and press "ctrl+alt+f2"? |
| 05:31.56 | wols_ | normaly with your borken X that is |
| 05:31.59 | dalias | aliljet, i told you, you have to leave open a connection from home to work |
| 05:32.08 | DarkBahamut | k i will try |
| 05:32.16 | DarkBahamut | afk for a bit |
| 05:32.25 | aliljet | dalias: is the command I'm using not doing that? |
| 05:32.35 | DarkBahamut | this is all on one computer btw so i have to shut this down |
| 05:32.39 | wols_ | aliljet: no. read about on ssh port forwarding |
| 05:32.41 | DarkBahamut | afk |
| 05:32.42 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: we know |
| 05:32.46 | DarkBahamut | k |
| 05:32.58 | aliljet | wols_: aye, google time |
| 05:33.26 | wols_ | aliljet: also it would really help if you could elaborate a bit more what you actaulyl want to achieve |
| 05:33.31 | sk8r-365 | wols_ DB won't know how to add irssi when he's there |
| 05:33.32 | Jyzygzy- | ................................ |
| 05:33.40 | Jyzygzy- | fetchmail just removed every mail i had |
| 05:33.46 | wols_ | cause sshing to a server and the ssehing right back to your originating host is, well, silly |
| 05:33.49 | Jyzygzy- | since 20002 |
| 05:33.50 | Jyzygzy- | 2002 |
| 05:33.55 | Jyzygzy- | there are no backsup |
| 05:33.59 | Jyzygzy- | WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY MAILS |
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| 05:34.25 | wols_ | sk8r-365: < wols_> .... aptitutde install irssi-text .... |
| 05:34.35 | aliljet | wols_: all I want to do is make an outbound connection to my personal box from that server that can't make outbound connections, but which can receive incoming connections (all on port 22) |
| 05:34.46 | sk8r-365 | I know - DB doesn't |
| 05:34.47 | Unwise | Jyzygzy-: hope you didn't need 'em... |
| 05:34.47 | wols_ | sk8r-365: can you and do some reading comprehension, then come back if you have that in, oh say, 80 years or so? |
| 05:34.56 | Jyzygzy- | Unwise no |
| 05:34.58 | Jyzygzy- | important |
| 05:35.02 | Jyzygzy- | where are they |
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| 05:35.26 | wols_ | aliljet: run a sshd on port 443, then connect to port 443 with your ssh client instead of just givng the url |
| 05:35.29 | sk8r-365 | I'm nearly blind but you're unkind |
| 05:35.51 | Unwise | Jyzygzy-: what does fetchmail pipe to? |
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| 05:36.01 | Jyzygzy- | i don't know |
| 05:36.08 | Unwise | here i use procmail |
| 05:36.10 | DarkBahamut | umm |
| 05:36.18 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: how did you configure fetchmail then? |
| 05:36.19 | Jyzygzy- | how the fuck do i find my mail |
| 05:36.22 | DarkBahamut | ctrl+alt+F2 dosent work |
| 05:36.30 | Jyzygzy- | wols_ i don't know i used a configuration from internet |
| 05:36.55 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: use single usermode then. then whne you are at the console: aptitude remove gdm |
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| 05:37.17 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: agreed |
| 05:37.24 | aliljet | this command works, whoops .. "ssh -l someuser -R localport:myhost:remoteport cat -" |
| 05:37.28 | aliljet | wicked. |
| 05:37.29 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: pastebin the config (minus any passwords you put into the config) and your syslog regarding fetchmal |
| 05:37.34 | aliljet | now I can do nothing at all at work =) |
| 05:37.35 | aliljet | hehe |
| 05:37.59 | Jyzygzy- | wols_ http://pastebin.com/m153b3f64 |
| 05:38.08 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: after gdm is removed, you can start debian normally and X won't try to start |
| 05:38.29 | xacier | LOL |
| 05:38.34 | xacier | fetchmail? |
| 05:38.35 | DarkBahamut | k |
| 05:38.51 | DarkBahamut | after that how do i get the irc program you were saying? |
| 05:39.05 | xacier | there is an option where you can keep a copy |
| 05:39.12 | xacier | in the settings |
| 05:39.16 | Jyzygzy- | WELL WHERE ARE THEY NOW |
| 05:39.17 | Jyzygzy- | FUCK |
| 05:39.18 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: aptitude install irssi-text; irssi |
| 05:39.23 | xacier | i guess you didn't select the crap |
| 05:39.25 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: stop that |
| 05:39.25 | xacier | LOL |
| 05:39.26 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: let's fix X |
| 05:39.29 | Jyzygzy- | DUDE |
| 05:39.32 | wols_ | !lol |
| 05:39.32 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 05:39.47 | Jyzygzy- | that was IMPORTANT SHIT |
| 05:39.52 | wols_ | Unwise: to be able to fix X he first needs a non black screen |
| 05:40.03 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: since you are unable to behave: help yourself, good day |
| 05:40.10 | Jyzygzy- | no |
| 05:40.13 | Jyzygzy- | where are my mail |
| 05:40.23 | simonrvn | as if *we'd* know |
| 05:40.33 | wols_ | as if we'd wanted to |
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| 05:40.41 | Unwise | wols_: and we'll be able to once gdm is out of the way... |
| 05:40.49 | DarkBahamut | ok il be back |
| 05:40.56 | wols_ | Unwise: hence the command I told him |
| 05:40.57 | xacier | um, call the service provider see if they keep a copy? |
| 05:40.58 | simonrvn | Jyzygzy-: start looking for them |
| 05:41.02 | Jyzygzy- | how? |
| 05:41.12 | xacier | other than that nothing you can do |
| 05:41.12 | Unwise | wols_: and i agreed... |
| 05:41.15 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: I can tell you they aren't on irc, that's for sure |
| 05:41.21 | simonrvn | it's called ls ; mc is helpful for navigating fast |
| 05:41.38 | wols_ | simonrvn: fo ls he had to know what to look for. I doubt he does |
| 05:41.47 | wols_ | and he's far to impation for it |
| 05:41.54 | wols_ | *for ls |
| 05:42.17 | simonrvn | well, knowing the mailbox type would help, then he could look for that kind of file |
| 05:42.29 | simonrvn | find would be faster... |
| 05:42.38 | wols_ | just think where debian stores mail by default... |
| 05:42.51 | wols_ | especially with someone who doesn't have a clue about mail as it seems |
| 05:42.55 | simonrvn | /var/mail; ~/; /var/spool/cyrus/mail |
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| 05:43.08 | wols_ | cyrus? how exotic :) |
| 05:43.19 | simonrvn | ~/Maildir specifically, oh and ~/mbox |
| 05:43.38 | sk8r-365 | ~/Mail |
| 05:43.39 | apt | hmm... /mail is a symlink to ~/Maildir |
| 05:43.40 | Unwise | esoteric, even.. |
| 05:43.45 | simonrvn | oh, i'm forgetting mh, can't remember those go |
| 05:43.57 | simonrvn | remember where* |
| 05:44.22 | wols_ | somewhere in ~ I think |
| 05:44.29 | simonrvn | Unwise: only at first, and gotten easier since |
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| 05:44.31 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 05:44.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | lokkju: you could mount a file system from one machine to the other and share the log that way |
| 05:44.55 | wols_ | simonrvn: especially since it has debs now :) |
| 05:45.03 | Unwise | fetchmail, procmail, mutt, msmtp here... |
| 05:45.36 | Unwise | ewww |
| 05:45.36 | wols_ | why? I stopped that whne 1.5 went out of style |
| 05:45.44 | simonrvn | yum, these burritos are nice |
| 05:46.03 | Unwise | too many beans |
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| 05:46.17 | simonrvn | who asked you? :P |
| 05:46.26 | ^wolf | beeens |
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| 05:46.30 | Unwise | i can smell it... |
| 05:46.35 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 05:49.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | aliljet: ok, someone already said that - but if you can resolve the situation in a real way, do so - I have that setup with portforwarding... doesnt work well for me, but might be unrelated... the laptop seems to lose the network pretty often... (but how should I know from here) |
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| 05:51.10 | sk8r-365 | root___1 is that you DarkBahamut? |
| 05:51.28 | simonrvn | !tell root____1 -about root |
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| 05:52.23 | sk8r-365 | DB is in Hawaii |
| 05:52.45 | Unwise | maybe... I'm not |
| 05:52.48 | wols_ | root____1: log in as normal user, then run irssi |
| 05:52.56 | wols_ | root____1: as root user you cannot talk in here |
| 05:53.00 | simonrvn | root can't talk in here |
| 05:53.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | aliljet: I actually did something like ssh -L 22:remotehost:2000 remotehost |
| 05:53.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | iirc |
| 05:53.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | aliljet: then you can ssh back in with ssh -p 2000 localhost |
| 05:54.24 | Nyle | hi |
| 05:54.37 | simonrvn | hullo there Nyle |
| 05:54.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually I probably also supplied the -N option and I also put that in /etc/inittab |
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| 05:55.33 | darkbahamut | hey |
| 05:55.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | heyey |
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| 05:56.09 | darkbahamut | woa this irc program rocks :D |
| 05:56.14 | sk8r-365 | You made it, DB |
| 05:56.19 | darkbahamut | hi sk8 |
| 05:56.20 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: Hi. login as root. do: 'rm -f /etc/X11/xorg.conf' then: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' then: logout then: login as regular user then do: 'startx' |
| 05:56.49 | wols_ | svzard: do not just /msg people |
| 05:56.53 | wols_ | !tell svzard about rules |
| 05:57.40 | wols_ | !tell svzard about mirrors |
| 05:58.03 | wols_ | !tell svzard about sources.list |
| 05:58.10 | Unwise | darkbahamut: but first so apt-get remove gdm |
| 05:58.32 | darkbahamut | i did that |
| 05:58.39 | wols_ | darkbahamut: and what happened? |
| 05:58.48 | darkbahamut | i removed the gdm |
| 05:58.53 | wols_ | Unwise: he also has removed gdm or he wouldn't be here |
| 05:58.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols_: it's not in the !rules :) |
| 05:58.54 | darkbahamut | now i have to do the xorg |
| 05:59.06 | Unwise | yup, yup |
| 05:59.10 | wols_ | CutMeOwnThroat: not anymore. there was something like "/msg bots but not people" :( |
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| 05:59.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols_: it's in the topic |
| 05:59.26 | darkbahamut | if im in single user mode to redo the xorg |
| 05:59.32 | darkbahamut | i cant log onto this can i? |
| 05:59.42 | Nyle | this is not ubuntu |
| 05:59.54 | wols_ | darkbahamut: you don't need to be in single user mode. are you in multiuser mode now? booted normally? |
| 05:59.54 | Nyle | hmm |
| 06:00.04 | darkbahamut | yup |
| 06:00.08 | svzard | sorry wols_, i already did wht you mentioned. just wanted to inform u abt it. |
| 06:00.34 | wols_ | darkbahamut: ok, you are no in VT1. you can come here with ctrl+alt+f1. you can go to ctrl+atl+f2 and log in there and config your xorg there |
| 06:00.46 | darkbahamut | k |
| 06:00.49 | darkbahamut | brb |
| 06:00.56 | darkbahamut | also gonna get a drink so may take longe |
| 06:00.58 | darkbahamut | longer |
| 06:00.59 | darkbahamut | * |
| 06:01.04 | wols_ | svzard: you probably didnd#t unles you have a repo like ftp.in.debian.org or such in your sources.list |
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| 06:01.10 | Unwise | shaken, not stirred |
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| 06:01.24 | wols_ | don't drink and irc! |
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| 06:01.45 | Unwise | why not? the police? |
| 06:01.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | why not? |
| 06:01.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 06:01.57 | wols_ | Unwise: /msg dpkg permasunday |
| 06:02.01 | Unwise | I'll getta beer... |
| 06:02.10 | darkbahamut | umm |
| 06:02.12 | Doat | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.12 | darkbahamut | it says |
| 06:02.15 | wols_ | that's how permasunday came about I'm sure |
| 06:02.19 | Doat | failed -.- |
| 06:02.19 | simonrvn | because it ends up being very weird for the people on the other end |
| 06:02.23 | darkbahamut | cannot remove xorg.conf access denied |
| 06:02.29 | michal_ | does anyone now of a package which would let me relay a http connection from one machine to another? ie machine one has a tomcat server and a apache server on ports 8000 and 80 respectively.. i want to access the tomcat sever via port 80 on machine2. |
| 06:02.40 | wols_ | darkbahamut: you need to be root to be able to do it |
| 06:02.50 | darkbahamut | k ill be back |
| 06:02.55 | sk8r-365 | teach DB su |
| 06:03.02 | darkbahamut | ? |
| 06:03.29 | sk8r-365 | command su |
| 06:03.33 | sk8r-365 | enter root |
| 06:03.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps, because you have to be 21 in the US to get a beer, 16 in germany and a lot of other ages in other countries... and because we're so international here, it all adds up and you're only allowed to drink if over 127 |
| 06:03.38 | sk8r-365 | type passwd |
| 06:03.42 | sk8r-365 | do work |
| 06:03.46 | sk8r-365 | exit |
| 06:04.05 | darkbahamut | oo |
| 06:04.07 | darkbahamut | cool |
| 06:04.12 | darkbahamut | brb |
| 06:04.27 | Unwise | CutMeOwnThroat: ...minutes ago... |
| 06:04.29 | wols_ | sk8r-365: I want to see how you enter "su" and then you enter root what happens... |
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| 06:05.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | Unwise: ? ... 2 minutes for me |
| 06:05.26 | darkbahamut | when i remove the xorg.conf does it say xorg.conf removed? |
| 06:05.27 | Unwise | CutMeOwnThroat: already there... |
| 06:05.29 | simonrvn | su - |
| 06:05.31 | michal_ | is there some sort of relay software which could do this? i tried to find something but couldn't :/ |
| 06:05.32 | darkbahamut | i did it and it says nothing |
| 06:05.33 | sk8r-365 | DB and I went over that b4 - he knows what I mean |
| 06:05.38 | wols_ | michal_: lots. iptables. ssh, etc |
| 06:05.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | darkbahamut: then it did what it was told |
| 06:06.00 | darkbahamut | cool |
| 06:06.00 | sk8r-365 | guess I'm wrong wols_ ; DB didn't recall |
| 06:06.01 | darkbahamut | ok |
| 06:06.03 | darkbahamut | brb again |
| 06:06.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | darkbahamut: unix programs just speak when something goes wrong |
| 06:06.14 | darkbahamut | ahh |
| 06:06.17 | wols_ | darkbahamut: if you are root, your prompt ends with a '#', if you are a normal user it ends with a dollar sign |
| 06:06.24 | Unwise | darkbahamut: check by doing 'ls /etc/X11' |
| 06:06.25 | michal_ | wols: i tried doing ti with shorewall with no luck.. can iptables doing it when it's coming in and going out the same interface? |
| 06:06.29 | darkbahamut | cool thanks for the tip cutmeownthrought |
| 06:06.40 | darkbahamut | throat* |
| 06:06.47 | wols_ | michal_: it can |
| 06:06.52 | michal_ | wols: how exactly would i do it with ssh? it needs to be accessible from everywhere in the world without ssh |
| 06:07.08 | wols_ | michal_: portforwarding with ssh |
| 06:07.30 | wols_ | but yes, for public way, iptables is better I guess |
| 06:07.37 | michal_ | wols: as far as i understand port forwarding it can't do that.. but i could be wrong |
| 06:07.38 | Unwise | CutMeOwnThroat: speak? sometimes mine screams... |
| 06:07.59 | darkbahamut | ok it was removed |
| 06:08.01 | michal_ | in ssh that is |
| 06:08.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | michal_: ssh would do it (although not being the ideal choice) |
| 06:08.12 | darkbahamut | without having to reboot |
| 06:08.12 | wols_ | michal_: you are. I'm doing it to do portforwarding for 4 other apps on a different host |
| 06:08.39 | wols_ | michal_: just that by default ssh only listens on localhost, so you have to tell ssh to listen on the sprcific IP |
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| 06:08.47 | darkbahamut | brb now |
| 06:08.54 | michal_ | wols: i'm not sure it would work in this case with the port probably coming up in the url |
| 06:08.58 | wols_ | darkbahamut: good. now dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 06:09.11 | wols_ | the url is client side |
| 06:09.20 | wols_ | has nothing to do with the forward or the server. at all |
| 06:09.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols_: only if he has multiple hosts on one machine... |
| 06:10.01 | michal_ | wols: can you give me an example of how you do this? somehow with -R ? |
| 06:10.07 | wols_ | ok, then it has to do with the webserver. but nothing with the forwarding part |
| 06:10.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | but actually... if you have virtual hosts... would they work via portforwarding? |
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| 06:10.30 | wols_ | michal_: no, I use -L |
| 06:10.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | how does e.g. apache determine which virtual host is meant... it's by the URL, isnt it? |
| 06:10.54 | michal_ | CutMeOwnThroat: in my case i have apache and tomcat on the same server.. if i could get tomcat to be a virtual host under apache that would be nice.. but i don't think that possible |
| 06:11.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | michal_: no, but you could have the tomcat documents served by the apache as a 2nd virtual host |
| 06:11.26 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.28 | michal_ | wols: how wuld -L work? that's only for local connections.. people connecting to the port you have forwarded remotely wouldn't be allowed access |
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| 06:11.43 | michal_ | at least that what hapened when i tried something like that years ago |
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| 06:11.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | it would |
| 06:12.15 | wols_ | michal_: ssh -L<public ip>:10080:localhost:10080 user@remote.host |
| 06:12.26 | michal_ | CutMeOwnThroat: what do you mean? can i get apache to call tomcat in some sort of relay fashin? |
| 06:12.28 | michal_ | fashion |
| 06:12.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | michal_: no |
| 06:12.36 | wols_ | the important part for it to work publically is the -L<public ip>:10080 part |
| 06:12.41 | Merphy | helo evry body! used apt-get install kde (successfull), X fails, what to do |
| 06:12.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
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| 06:12.51 | wols_ | Merphy: have you installed X? |
| 06:13.00 | wols_ | Merphy: you don't need to install X to install kde |
| 06:13.05 | Merphy | yeah as dependency |
| 06:13.15 | wols_ | Merphy: no it's not a dependency of kde at all |
| 06:13.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | but if he wants to have it forwarded _to_ port 80 on one machine, ssh needs to be called as root from that machine |
| 06:13.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | because normal users (or the ssh of normal users) will not be allowed to open port 80 |
| 06:13.39 | Merphy | ok (apt-get install X) m i right? |
| 06:13.52 | wols_ | !tell Merphy about install X |
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| 06:14.16 | darkbahamut | do i leave my bus id as it is? |
| 06:14.27 | wols_ | CutMeOwnThroat: another reason why one would want to use iptables instead |
| 06:14.32 | wols_ | darkbahamut: yes |
| 06:14.36 | darkbahamut | k |
| 06:14.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols_: true :) |
| 06:14.59 | michal_ | i would want to use iptables but i couldn't get it to work :/ |
| 06:15.13 | darkbahamut | ammount of memory used by video card? |
| 06:15.14 | wols_ | !tell michal_ about doesn't work |
| 06:15.17 | michal_ | i'd have to use it through shorewall though lest i conflict with it |
| 06:15.37 | wols_ | darkbahamut: try to leave blank |
| 06:15.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | michal_: why do you need tomcat, btw? |
| 06:15.41 | darkbahamut | k |
| 06:15.47 | michal_ | if you don't know how shorewall works my explanation wouldn't mean much : |
| 06:15.49 | michal_ | :/ |
| 06:16.06 | wols_ | martin_: why do you need shorewall in the first palce? |
| 06:16.10 | darkbahamut | use kernal framebuffer device interface? |
| 06:16.14 | michal_ | CutMeOwnThroat: it's an integral pat of the software.. o3spaces |
| 06:16.16 | Unwise | darkbahamut: NO |
| 06:16.27 | darkbahamut | sry for all the questions im just trying to make sure i do this correct this time |
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| 06:16.46 | wols_ | darkbahamut: we understand, but: no worries. you can do it again until it works algith |
| 06:16.54 | wols_ | no big deal anymore now that you have a running system |
| 06:16.56 | Unwise | darkbahamut: no sweat, you're doing fine. |
| 06:16.59 | Merphy | thnx to aptitude :) I am new to debian |
| 06:17.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols_: hehe "you can do it again until it works algith" this is very... citeable :) |
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| 06:17.54 | Unwise | CutMeOwnThroat: Linux is free only if your time is worth nothing... |
| 06:18.39 | darkbahamut | do i change anything in the x.0rg server modules? |
| 06:18.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | Unwise: I meant because of the "algith", if that wasnt obvious |
| 06:18.39 | wols_ | Unwise: which is kinda unfair. ever seen how many manyears literally wasted on windows problems? |
| 06:18.39 | wols_ | truly FUD |
| 06:19.01 | Unwise | I surrender! |
| 06:19.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols_: well, wasting time on something that cost something doesnt invaluate the statement that your time is worth something :) |
| 06:19.06 | liable | no shit, i have wasted hours in the last days trying to help a workmate with windows |
| 06:19.14 | david-work | Sigh this has become a major pain in my ass bug #255870. Why the hell would debian do that it removes functioinality so now I have to compile ssh from source which limits maintainability |
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| 06:19.32 | david-work | 3yrs old I do not see it being fixed anytime soon |
| 06:19.35 | liable | is that the ssl one? |
| 06:19.38 | david-work | what a pain in my ass |
| 06:19.38 | liable | oh |
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| 06:20.51 | sk8r-365 | wols_ DB asked, "do i change anything in the x.0rg server modules?" |
| 06:21.09 | wols_ | not right now, no |
| 06:21.23 | Unwise | yea let dpkg do it |
| 06:21.40 | wols_ | Unwise: he has a nvidia card btw. there might be fun in the future .) |
| 06:21.50 | sk8r-365 | has an NV |
| 06:22.04 | wols_ | sk8r-365: what does "NV" stand for? |
| 06:22.16 | sk8r-365 | nvidia card |
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| 06:22.33 | wols_ | *sigh* |
| 06:22.35 | Unwise | Yahoo! had to compile a kernel first time out to get my first Debian Box running... nvidia the culprit |
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| 06:22.49 | darkbaha1ut | weird my computer froze |
| 06:22.52 | wols_ | streuner: gives me hearburn and worse |
| 06:22.59 | wols_ | my stomach can only stand tea |
| 06:23.11 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: doing what? |
| 06:23.15 | liable | beer ftw |
| 06:23.18 | darkbaha1ut | i was typing |
| 06:23.31 | darkbaha1ut | asking about the x.0rg server modules |
| 06:23.40 | wols_ | liable: even worse. naything with less than 10% vol ethanol is not worth it. |
| 06:23.52 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: not good |
| 06:24.00 | darkbaha1ut | i had to restart my computer i think i need to delete the file again? |
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| 06:24.16 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: you can but shouldn't be necessary |
| 06:24.27 | wols_ | but you need to restart configuring xorg |
| 06:24.37 | darkbaha1ut | i will delete the file just incase |
| 06:24.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | nite |
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| 06:24.57 | darkbaha1ut | i think this is how it got messed up in the first place |
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| 06:25.12 | darkbaha1ut | brb |
| 06:25.22 | streuner | wols_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartburn |
| 06:25.40 | wols_ | yes heartburn |
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| 06:25.55 | streuner | wols_: "Bullrich Salz" helps |
| 06:26.03 | |mido| | chii: i love your Nick name .... |
| 06:26.08 | |mido| | Hi all |
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| 06:26.15 | simonrvn | chii is a bot |
| 06:26.22 | |mido| | i know |
| 06:26.22 | streuner | wols_: if you dont have it, just milk |
| 06:26.31 | simonrvn | riight |
| 06:26.47 | wols_ | how about just not drinking that dark muck especially when I can't really stand the taste anyways? |
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| 06:26.54 | michal_ | happily tomcat doesn't try to rewrite the port on the url |
| 06:26.55 | wols_ | btw: espresso is fine. coffee isn't |
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| 06:26.59 | michal_ | now to get this working |
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| 06:27.17 | streuner | wols_: Taurin-based drinks, like "Dead Bull" or such then :-) |
| 06:27.31 | darkbaha1ut | ok. do i change anything in x.0rg server modules? |
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| 06:27.45 | wols_ | streuner: tea has enough coffeine and tastes better |
| 06:27.51 | streuner | !drxx darkbaha1ut |
| 06:27.51 | dpkg | darkbaha1ut: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
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| 06:27.59 | |mido| | oki time to go have nice day .... |
| 06:28.00 | wols_ | plus, I dunno if my kidneys (or myself) would like red bull |
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| 06:28.10 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: no change |
| 06:28.13 | darkbaha1ut | k |
| 06:28.31 | Unwise | darkbaha1ut: try specifying vesa during the reconfigure |
| 06:28.43 | wols_ | speaking of, time to do something for said kidneys |
| 06:28.51 | Unwise | instead if nvidia |
| 06:29.11 | wols_ | Unwise: he can only choose nv or vesa. no nvidia drivers (yet) |
| 06:29.13 | darkbaha1ut | umm its a bit late unwise is there a way to go back to that part without starting over? |
| 06:29.31 | Unwise | been awhile.. |
| 06:29.34 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: no. don't worry so far |
| 06:29.35 | wols_ | just go on |
| 06:29.37 | darkbaha1ut | k |
| 06:29.57 | darkbaha1ut | write default files section to configuration file? |
| 06:29.59 | sk8r-365 | can't Db just hand edit nv or vesa later? |
| 06:30.17 | wols_ | sk8r-365: drxx is less prone of a borked xorg.conf |
| 06:30.18 | Unwise | one thing at a time |
| 06:30.29 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: yes |
| 06:30.41 | darkbaha1ut | i can do that if needed sk8 |
| 06:30.56 | sk8r-365 | gt to that later |
| 06:31.31 | darkbaha1ut | leave video modes at 1280x800? |
| 06:32.13 | sk8r-365 | wols_ : can nv or vesa handle that at Depth 16? |
| 06:32.15 | Unwise | darkbaha1ut: had problem with that on another driver - let dpkg choose |
| 06:32.57 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: since you have a widescreen, X might look like ass at first and choose the wrong res |
| 06:33.25 | Unwise | but only at first - can change later |
| 06:33.27 | darkbaha1ut | i have it set to 1024x768 on windows |
| 06:33.30 | wols_ | but with some persisitence it's usually doable to use the proper res (which is sorely needed too to make the output bearable) |
| 06:33.35 | streuner | VESA is very limited, you choose that if nothing else works... |
| 06:33.41 | wols_ | but right now, all we want is a graphical screen |
| 06:33.48 | Unwise | yup |
| 06:33.48 | darkbaha1ut | k |
| 06:33.55 | darkbaha1ut | ill go with default |
| 06:33.59 | wols_ | yes |
| 06:34.00 | Merphy | nay body to help to patch openmosix to debian? |
| 06:34.32 | wols_ | Merphy: ask real questions. don't take polls |
| 06:34.43 | darkbaha1ut | do i choose advance to specify my monitors horizSync? |
| 06:34.47 | wols_ | sussudio's wrath can be terrible |
| 06:34.50 | Merphy | I want to patch Openmosix |
| 06:34.53 | streuner | darkbaha1ut: no |
| 06:34.58 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: nah, medium should be enough at most |
| 06:35.02 | darkbaha1ut | k |
| 06:35.03 | sk8r-365 | DB: do you know the rates? |
| 06:35.07 | wols_ | only choose advanced if default doesn't work |
| 06:35.09 | streuner | darkbaha1ut: just let debhelper do that for you... |
| 06:35.15 | wols_ | it's a LCD. there are no "rates" |
| 06:35.22 | sk8r-365 | ok |
| 06:35.28 | streuner | darkbaha1ut: s/debhelper/debconf/ |
| 06:35.47 | Unwise | sk8r-365: and a laptop as well. try getting the man specs on that. |
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| 06:36.10 | darkbaha1ut | desired color deph? |
| 06:36.11 | sk8r-365 | Yeah, I looked in vain for DB. |
| 06:36.17 | Merphy | how to patch openmosix to debian (sorry for prev question) |
| 06:36.20 | streuner | if its a laptops why didnt YOU look at this? |
| 06:36.20 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: 24 or so |
| 06:36.22 | streuner | !laptops |
| 06:36.22 | dpkg | from memory, laptop is All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad> |
| 06:36.43 | darkbaha1ut | ok i think its done |
| 06:36.50 | darkbaha1ut | that took too long lol |
| 06:36.55 | Unwise | give it a shot |
| 06:36.55 | wols_ | ok, as a normal user: "startx" |
| 06:37.22 | wols_ | darkbaha1ut: with practice it will get faster :). For someone new to debian you are doing quite fine |
| 06:37.29 | darkbaha1ut | cool |
| 06:37.43 | Unwise | very well imho |
| 06:38.00 | michal_ | wait |
| 06:38.01 | svzard | wols i did wht u asked. here is the new sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/42465 |
| 06:38.06 | michal_ | the ssh port forard |
| 06:38.12 | michal_ | which ip does it get bound to? |
| 06:38.34 | wols_ | svzard: looks good. aptitude update;aptitude install <indic fonts package name> |
| 06:38.34 | michal_ | say i have eth0 and eth0:1 with one being the external and the other the local ip |
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| 06:38.41 | svzard | then i did apt-get install ttf-indic-fonts. it got installed too. yet i'm not able to see sites with local fonts |
| 06:38.55 | wols_ | michal_: whatever you specify. by defualt localhost only |
| 06:39.06 | Nyle | !localhost |
| 06:39.07 | dpkg | 127.0.0.1. Christopher Thomas Nicodemus |
| 06:39.13 | wols_ | !defoma |
| 06:39.13 | dpkg | i heard defoma is Debian Font Manager, and automatic configuration framework for fonts. |
| 06:39.17 | michal_ | how di i specify for it to apply to the external ip? |
| 06:39.21 | wols_ | svzard: or fontconfig |
| 06:39.29 | wols_ | michal_: scroll up. I told you above |
| 06:39.31 | Unwise | uh oh |
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| 06:39.44 | wols_ | darkbahamut: what happened? |
| 06:39.54 | darkbahamut | computer froze at black screen |
| 06:40.00 | michal_ | wols: oh sorry.. somehow my mind filtered the dual ip's there |
| 06:40.04 | wols_ | *sigh* |
| 06:40.22 | darkbahamut | everytime i get black screen i cant do anything |
| 06:40.31 | wols_ | darkbahamut: check your xorg.log |
| 06:40.43 | wols_ | grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log as root |
| 06:40.43 | darkbahamut | not even switch between F1-F4 |
| 06:40.55 | darkbahamut | k |
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| 06:41.10 | Unwise | darkbahamut: 'k now try to reconfigure specifying vesa driver - but paste your log before |
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| 06:42.47 | michal_ | now i guess the next question is how do i make sure that is always running :/ i guess i need some sort of deamon wrapper for it |
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| 06:43.23 | wols_ | michal_: there is a reason we all tell you to not use ssh. but you don't want to listen, your choice |
| 06:44.08 | Unwise | ssh: scary |
| 06:44.14 | darkbahamut | it says error parsing the log file |
| 06:44.21 | wols_ | at least for a constant serverlike connection |
| 06:44.21 | sk8r-365 | wols_, Unwise: thanks for helping DB; that's why I brought him here. DB: I'm on call and it's almost mid-night ... gotta go. Ck. on you at the NG in morning. |
| 06:44.22 | darkbahamut | config file* |
| 06:44.24 | michal_ | wols: i already spent around 10 hours trying to do it via shorewall (i cannot talk to iptables directly as it make break shorewall) and the developers of shorewall basically told me that it was impossible in y environment and not to try :/ |
| 06:44.31 | wols_ | darkbahamut: is it a double file again? like before? |
| 06:44.36 | darkbahamut | alright sk8 |
| 06:44.43 | wols_ | michal_: you are mistaken |
| 06:44.44 | darkbahamut | thanks for the help sk8 gnite |
| 06:45.03 | darkbahamut | want me to look at it in nano? |
| 06:45.15 | wols_ | you can always append a iptables line. and I asked before: why do you have to use shorewall? |
| 06:45.17 | michal_ | wols: shorewall does it through DNAT and it cannot do the DNAT out the same interface it comes in on |
| 06:45.21 | wols_ | darkbahamut: sure |
| 06:45.22 | streuner | wols_: whats wrong with "ssh"? |
| 06:45.30 | michal_ | since both loc and net are on the same interface that is |
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| 06:45.43 | Unwise | darkbahamut: sure |
| 06:45.58 | wols_ | streuner: he wants to ahve a persistent connection from tomcat on one host to apache on antoher |
| 06:46.13 | michal_ | wols: not to apache.. just port 80 |
| 06:46.28 | wols_ | whatever. but you still haven't told me why you need shorewall |
| 06:46.34 | michal_ | i want to access tomcat on port 8000 one one server via port 80 on another server |
| 06:46.48 | michal_ | wols: because it is the firewall on both of these systems |
| 06:46.59 | wols_ | why do you need a firewall in the first place? |
| 06:47.31 | michal_ | wols: because these are servers on the internet one of which handles financial transactions |
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| 06:47.56 | Unwise | even scarier... |
| 06:47.57 | wols_ | that's no reason. why do you neaad a special firewall? |
| 06:48.04 | wols_ | Unwise: yup |
| 06:48.13 | michal_ | wols: because that's the standard firewall used |
| 06:48.24 | wols_ | michal_: you cannot secure a system with a firewall on that same system. just not possible |
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| 06:48.42 | wols_ | a firewall is an extern device where nothing else than a firewall runs. everything else is snakeoil |
| 06:48.55 | wols_ | nice to look at and to pacify people without a clue, but useless security wise |
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| 06:49.30 | michal_ | wols: well i know this and that is how our office is set up. but the place with these servers isn't willing to pay anyone for a proper setup. |
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| 06:49.41 | Unwise | I firewall with dedicated machines running openbsd |
| 06:50.05 | Unwise | can do it with an old 386 |
| 06:50.11 | wols_ | heck, a wrt54g kinda item would be better. and if a company can't afford a wrt54g but handles financial data on the internet: get a new job |
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| 06:50.21 | darkbahamut | what a pain lol |
| 06:50.25 | darkbahamut | froze again |
| 06:50.26 | michal_ | we happen to use shorewall for our firewall too and it's quite convenient. |
| 06:50.36 | wols_ | darkbahamut: that lockup thing is most unusual |
| 06:50.48 | Unwise | darkbahamut: 'k what did you try, exactly? |
| 06:50.54 | wols_ | michal_: as I already said: you have no firewall. you have someothing that pretends to be one |
| 06:51.05 | wols_ | darkbahamut: what hardware is this? |
| 06:51.06 | darkbahamut | all i did was nano and was looking at the log |
| 06:51.30 | wols_ | darkbahamut: then you have hardware problems. boot with parameters noacpi apic=off |
| 06:51.34 | darkbahamut | i think i have an idea on why it crashes but im not sure |
| 06:51.40 | wols_ | yes? |
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| 06:52.00 | darkbahamut | when i installed it said something about my swap partition |
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| 06:52.12 | wols_ | darkbahamut: how much ram do you have? |
| 06:52.15 | darkbahamut | something about it may cause something to freeze |
| 06:52.21 | michal_ | wols: you're not paying attention. these are two different sites.. we have a firewall. a dedicated firewall with 4 zones.. one physical ehternet connection per zone and it does nothing else. it also has nothing to do with the two servers i'm trying to proxy the connection between which are at a different company |
| 06:52.23 | darkbahamut | i got 1GB of ram |
| 06:52.35 | wols_ | would be kinda helpful if you remmebered the exact message |
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| 06:52.43 | darkbahamut | not rly |
| 06:52.54 | darkbahamut | it was a yes or no question |
| 06:53.04 | darkbahamut | it said i may want it so i chose yes |
| 06:53.08 | michal_ | i understand what a firewall is. but some places basically have the managing director setting up "firewalls".. as in this case.. an |
| 06:53.12 | wols_ | with 1GB RAM you don't need a swap file |
| 06:53.21 | wols_ | but it doesn't hurt of course |
| 06:53.42 | simonrvn | kernel likes having even a bit of swap, for the caching |
| 06:53.59 | michal_ | is it possible to set up the ssh tunnel in a non interactive mode? |
| 06:54.01 | darkbahamut | any way to disable swap? |
| 06:54.05 | wols_ | simonrvn: but it's no crash problem. at most a (minor) perfomance one |
| 06:54.11 | michal_ | swapoff ? |
| 06:54.12 | simonrvn | swapoff -a |
| 06:54.15 | wols_ | swapoff -a |
| 06:54.21 | darkbahamut | should i do that? |
| 06:54.25 | simonrvn | wols_: yeh |
| 06:54.26 | wols_ | wpm |
| 06:54.27 | Unwise | darkbahamut: oh. reboot clean and do over specifying vesa as the driver. sounds like you have a race when you try to start with nv - a race condition will do random freezes on ya when you try something not related - igig should work ok |
| 06:54.32 | wols_ | won't hurt, especially not for testing |
| 06:54.55 | wols_ | Unwise: it's not random. and he froze before |
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| 06:55.00 | wols_ | acpi or apic imho |
| 06:55.25 | Unwise | to check the swap do: 'free' and it will print mem usages (swap too) |
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| 06:55.40 | darkbahamut | oh yah |
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| 06:55.49 | darkbahamut | b4 it crashed i was looking at the log |
| 06:55.55 | darkbahamut | it said |
| 06:56.03 | darkbahamut | couldent detect screen |
| 06:56.58 | Unwise | no screens detected. hmm. bfore you startx next time, past your xorg.conf |
| 06:57.02 | wols_ | darkbahamut: that's not the real error |
| 06:57.29 | wols_ | error messages start with (EE) |
| 06:57.35 | simonrvn | mitsa tepikwa, mitspo netike |
| 06:57.47 | Unwise | darkbahamut: yup |
| 06:57.48 | darkbahamut | ill check the log again |
| 06:57.52 | simonrvn | nebestonawa |
| 06:57.55 | wols_ | simonrvn: we don't have a dpkg factoid for whatever you spoke |
| 06:58.02 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 06:58.05 | wols_ | and I doubt there is a debian-whatever channel for it, so please stop :P |
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| 06:58.33 | wols_ | or tell us how you just all insulted us |
| 06:58.35 | Unwise | I speak Thai and it's not a word I know |
| 06:58.38 | wols_ | we like learning new instuls |
| 06:58.48 | simonrvn | nah, it's selected words from a crow hop |
| 06:58.48 | Unwise | yup |
| 06:58.53 | darkbahamut | EE problem parsing the config file |
| 06:59.00 | darkbahamut | thats 1 error |
| 06:59.07 | wols_ | darkbahamut: let me just say: fuck :( |
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| 06:59.19 | simonrvn | it's oji-cree i think |
| 06:59.21 | darkbahamut | o.O |
| 06:59.53 | Unwise | darkbahamut: paste your xorg.conf again... |
| 06:59.57 | wols_ | darkbahamut: when you look at your xorg.conf file, it starts with some comments at the top. and later around line 150, there is the same block again of a comment |
| 07:00.03 | wols_ | delete everything fromt hat comment onward |
| 07:00.20 | wols_ | simonrvn: screw what it is, what does it _say_? |
| 07:00.25 | Unwise | darkbahamut: in nano. as root |
| 07:00.36 | darkbahamut | k |
| 07:00.51 | simonrvn | i'm not sure, IIRC has to do with "this is a good dance, we're having fun" or something |
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| 07:01.19 | wols_ | simonrvn: needs moreinsults towards the white man. many more |
| 07:01.52 | Unwise | wols_: why would dpkg double the file? |
| 07:01.56 | darkbahamut | so just delete the comments? |
| 07:02.04 | simonrvn | hehe, you think we're always insulting settlers when we talk our languages? ;) |
| 07:02.08 | wols_ | Unwise: i think his install is screwy. it happened before for him |
| 07:02.22 | wols_ | simonrvn: it's kinda understandable... :) |
| 07:02.30 | simonrvn | only when they're assholes |
| 07:02.56 | wols_ | Unwise: http://paste.debian.net/42457 |
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| 07:03.02 | wols_ | simonrvn: when aren't they? |
| 07:03.14 | simonrvn | wols_: yeh, but most folks know that most settlers are pretty much victims too |
| 07:03.24 | wols_ | darkbahamut: not the comments. everything fromt hat 2nd block of comments onwards. everything |
| 07:03.33 | simonrvn | geting OT heh |
| 07:03.34 | simonrvn | t |
| 07:03.42 | wols_ | simonrvn: well, no op around :) |
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| 07:03.58 | simonrvn | just an ex-op ;p |
| 07:04.03 | wols_ | simonrvn: victims of what? cause they couldn't marry their cousins or take a 4th wife in the old world? |
| 07:04.12 | simonrvn | hehehe |
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| 07:04.21 | nots | how to list packages in debian dvd iso? I dont have linux here to unpack dvd image etc |
| 07:04.35 | wols_ | !cd contents |
| 07:04.35 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. Also ask me about <cd contents sarge>. |
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| 07:05.07 | streuner | nots: why do you think you need that? |
| 07:05.14 | simonrvn | of the greedy ones |
| 07:06.04 | nots | streuner: i have machine not on the net. Need to install kde, motion and vlc there. Don't believe there is vlc on etch dvd |
| 07:06.09 | streuner | nots: in order to install Debian, one netinstall-CD is usually enough |
| 07:06.18 | Unwise | darkbahamut: no, delete lines 144 thru 266 |
| 07:06.22 | wols_ | !tell nots about apt-zip |
| 07:06.32 | darkbahamut | the only comments are at the top |
| 07:06.45 | wols_ | darkbahamut: then pastebin the full xorg.log please |
| 07:06.50 | wols_ | and the full xorg.conf as it is |
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| 07:06.55 | darkbahamut | also nano dosent say what line is what |
| 07:06.56 | wols_ | !pastewithoutx |
| 07:06.56 | dpkg | methinks pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
| 07:07.06 | simonrvn | darkbahamut: ctrl-c will tell you |
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| 07:07.20 | darkbahamut | how do i paste my whole log here? |
| 07:07.26 | simonrvn | (hint bar at the bottom...) |
| 07:07.28 | wols_ | dpkg just told you |
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| 07:08.01 | Unwise | and do hpaste your current file |
| 07:08.05 | simonrvn | i gotta figure out why w3m segvs here... i don't get it. w3mmee works ok |
| 07:08.19 | wols_ | Nyle: fun with ganja economics: http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2007/11/13/news/local/zznews02.txt |
| 07:08.40 | Unwise | I'm too old for that. |
| 07:09.19 | wols_ | don't go all lethal weapon on us now |
| 07:09.30 | Unwise | hehehe |
| 07:10.08 | darkbahamut | im a bit confused sorry |
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| 07:10.41 | Unwise | darkbahamut: 'bout what? |
| 07:11.13 | darkbahamut | how to copy and paste from the log |
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| 07:11.54 | wols_ | don't. load up the whole file |
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| 07:11.59 | Unwise | !pastewithoutx |
| 07:12.00 | dpkg | somebody said pastewithoutx was you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
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| 07:13.12 | Unwise | darkbahamut: try any of that? |
| 07:13.25 | darkbahamut | 1 sec |
| 07:13.43 | Eclipser | that would free me totally from using a mouse |
| 07:14.12 | Unwise | use emacs |
| 07:14.17 | Eclipser | ehheh |
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| 07:16.54 | Unwise | My wife's looking at a Lexus today. God help me. |
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| 07:19.40 | Unwise | darkbahamut: any luck? |
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| 07:22.40 | darkbahamut | kinda |
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| 07:22.57 | Unwise | darkbahamut: ehrm.. |
| 07:23.00 | darkbahamut | almost done i think |
| 07:23.11 | Unwise | darkbahamut: 'kay |
| 07:23.39 | Unwise | darkbahamut: watching the bots troop by |
| 07:23.53 | simonrvn | Unwise: take her out for a nice dinner and dancing instead |
| 07:24.09 | Unwise | sexy, no? |
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| 07:24.48 | hatter | somehting i have to do after making a s/w raid ? do i have to rebuild initrd or something ? |
| 07:24.59 | simonrvn | a nice evening out is always more memorable ;) |
| 07:25.15 | simonrvn | or, make it an evening in |
| 07:25.21 | Unwise | less mechanical, I agree. |
| 07:25.26 | simonrvn | </2 cents> |
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| 07:26.23 | darkbahamut | i cant figure out how to use this one #debian.de paste zone |
| 07:26.24 | Unwise | hatter: you want to boot to it? then yes |
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| 07:26.39 | simonrvn | darkbahamut: just paste it, then paste the url here |
| 07:26.40 | darkbahamut | i try to load a file and it says not founf |
| 07:26.51 | darkbahamut | found^ |
| 07:27.24 | simonrvn | yay for me, must've gotten corrupt when the box froze, and it was running |
| 07:27.46 | simonrvn | reinstalled it (w3m), and runs fine now |
| 07:28.26 | darkbahamut | mabe i should just go back to windows to post it? |
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| 07:28.49 | sigp239 | How do I tell the size of a partition from the console? |
| 07:29.06 | dondelelcaro | df -h |
| 07:29.12 | hatter | Unwise, no not booting to it, both drives are added, cat /proc/mdstat shows them, i have a populated /etc/mdadm/conf file, but on reboot they are gone |
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| 07:29.30 | hatter | '/etc/mdadm.conf' |
| 07:29.33 | sigp239 | dondelelcaro: what about a partition that is not mounted |
| 07:29.45 | dondelelcaro | sigp239: fdisk |
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| 07:29.53 | Unwise | darkbahamut: how tired are you? do need the file to troubleshoot. anyway is better than no way. |
| 07:30.08 | darkbahamut | im trying |
| 07:30.15 | darkbahamut | this is a bit confusing |
| 07:30.20 | dondelelcaro | sigp239: df will actually tell you the size of the mounted filesystem, which is usually what you want to know; fdisk only gives you partition table information. |
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| 07:30.41 | darkbahamut | does the !paste work in irssi/ |
| 07:30.42 | darkbahamut | ? |
| 07:30.49 | darkbahamut | is that what its for? |
| 07:30.58 | sigp239 | dondelelcaro: yes but the partition is not mounted. |
| 07:31.25 | sigp239 | dondelelcaro: so how do i find the size of an unmounted partition? fdisk shows no GB info, just blocks. |
| 07:31.36 | Unwise | darkbahamut: and it gets harder the more tired you are. do it from widose - see you in a bit... |
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| 07:32.02 | darkbahamut | k |
| 07:32.16 | import | how would i get a debian package without installing it i would like to use aptitude please |
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| 07:33.01 | dondelelcaro | sigp239: a block is generally 1K |
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| 07:33.19 | sigp239 | 204800000 blocks |
| 07:33.23 | dondelelcaro | import: aptitude download foo; |
| 07:33.42 | sigp239 | so that's about 200 GB |
| 07:34.58 | import | thank you dondelelcaro that will get the .deb file and place it in the local directory? so like this aptitude download package name , or aptitude download foo package name |
| 07:35.21 | dondelelcaro | import: man aptitude |
| 07:35.27 | import | what about aptitude -d package |
| 07:35.30 | Unwise | it'll place it in the directory you call from |
| 07:35.33 | import | :) is that right |
| 07:35.55 | Unwise | yup |
| 07:36.11 | import | thank ya |
| 07:36.17 | dondelelcaro | I mean, I took all the hard work out of it; the least you can do is read the manual |
| 07:36.27 | import | i put this in |
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| 07:36.33 | import | aptitude --help |
| 07:36.36 | Unwise | manuals are fun |
| 07:36.38 | import | and i read it out |
| 07:36.48 | Unwise | darkbahamut: whazzup? |
| 07:36.53 | DarkBahamut | ok. heres the Xorg.0.log http://paste.debian.net/42468 |
| 07:36.54 | dondelelcaro | import: man aptitude; the --help is extremely abridged. |
| 07:37.06 | import | aww |
| 07:37.16 | Unwise | darkbahamut: need xorg.conf |
| 07:37.22 | DarkBahamut | k 1 sec |
| 07:37.33 | Unwise | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 07:37.34 | wols_ | Unwise: from the look it's another double xorg.conf. as before |
| 07:37.44 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: it was the same error earlier |
| 07:38.00 | hatter | hmmm, so i noticed i hadnt put the raid1 module in /etc/modules but it still doesnt bring the arrays up on reboot |
| 07:38.16 | Unwise | youch. need to manually edit. but I'm worried noe about the rest of the install. |
| 07:38.18 | DarkBahamut | here |
| 07:38.19 | DarkBahamut | http://paste.debian.net/42469 |
| 07:38.56 | dacs | anyone here please help me with setting up putty with xming to connect debian from windows box |
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| 07:39.35 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: http://paste.debian.net/42468 and http://paste.debian.net/42457 differ only 2 minutes in the log |
| 07:39.38 | wols_ | something is wrong |
| 07:39.57 | wols_ | (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Nov 12 04:59:47 2007 |
| 07:40.04 | import | okay one more question say im helping my uncle install debian to his laptop he doesnt have eth0 connection so i need to be very very careful. I just aptitude download then package name now if i send this to him in the email will it still work right when he downloads it? he has windows xp. |
| 07:40.07 | wols_ | is it 5am where you are right now? |
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| 07:40.32 | wols_ | import: it will work |
| 07:40.33 | DarkBahamut | its 9:42 pm |
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| 07:40.50 | wols_ | could be gmt or such |
| 07:41.05 | import | sweet now i just need him to get the bcmwl5a.sys file from his crap os :P get him going on debian |
| 07:41.11 | DarkBahamut | mabe the clocks arent set for the log o.O |
| 07:41.31 | Unwise | darkbahamut: Cool. it's not a double file. Now much less worried. If you can, go through the procedure we did before, this time specifying vesa as the video driver. Almost there.... |
| 07:41.47 | DarkBahamut | k |
| 07:41.50 | import | thank you guys for the help oh i just read apt-get install -d would have worked to i guess |
| 07:42.01 | DarkBahamut | ill go back to linux now |
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| 07:42.11 | DarkBahamut | brb sry for the troubles and headaches guys |
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| 07:42.30 | Unwise | We wouldn't be here otherwise |
| 07:42.41 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: the two logs you pasted are 1 or two hourse in between, but the log speaks of only 2-3 minutes in between. that doesn't add up |
| 07:44.17 | Unwise | wols_: he posted the log, then the config a couple minutes apart as anon on winslop |
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| 07:44.49 | Unwise | he got bent with w3m |
| 07:45.12 | darkbahamut | delete the conf file again correct? |
| 07:45.20 | Unwise | and he's getting tired, I think |
| 07:45.26 | darkbahamut | who is o.O |
| 07:46.00 | Unwise | darkbahamut: yeah, to be on the safe side |
| 07:46.05 | darkbahamut | k |
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| 07:51.59 | darkbahamut | freeze again |
| 07:52.05 | darkbahamut | ill redo now |
| 07:52.11 | Goezzi | how do i stop dpkg or apt-get from updating certain packages apt-get --no-update "@list" doesn't seem to work |
| 07:52.38 | Unwise | darkbahamut: when did it freeze? |
| 07:54.57 | Eclipser | !hold |
| 07:54.58 | dpkg | hold is a status flag which tells apt (or aptitude) not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package, 'echo pkgname hold|dpkg --set-selections' or use = in aptitude's curses interface. You can ignore a hold by using apt-get install foopkg; or by using + in aptitude's curses interface. [Note that this is *NOT* the same as packages which have been "held back" because they require packages that are not currently (or tri |
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| 07:55.56 | Eclipser | Goezzi, ^ |
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| 07:56.11 | Goezzi | thnx eclipser |
| 07:56.12 | darkbahamut | black screen again |
| 07:56.16 | Unwise | darkbahamut: what happened? |
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| 07:56.33 | darkbahamut | i did the config with vesa this time |
| 07:56.38 | darkbahamut | still black screen |
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| 07:58.25 | darkbahamut | i wonder if a re-install would be needed? |
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| 07:59.10 | Unwise | darkbahamut: hrmf. do this: type 'free' |
| 07:59.29 | Unwise | what's it tell you? |
| 07:59.33 | darkbahamut | in user or command mode? |
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| 07:59.54 | Unwise | user's fine |
| 07:59.55 | darkbahamut | k |
| 08:02.19 | darkbahamut | 906MB free 104MB used |
| 08:02.19 | darkbahamut | memory |
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| 08:02.39 | Unwise | darkbahamut: no mention of swap? |
| 08:02.42 | darkbahamut | shared 0 buffers 10048 cached 53548 |
| 08:02.46 | darkbahamut | umm |
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| 08:03.30 | darkbahamut | swap 506008 total used 0 free 506008 |
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| 08:03.51 | peteryang | hello, is it possible to define "192.168.1.18 *.server1" in the /etc/hosts file? |
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| 08:05.41 | Unwise | darkbahamut: 'kay you have swap. and a gig of RAM. video drivers hose the machine. one instance of a weirdly corrupted file, since corrected. - methinks it's time to grab a better driver. |
| 08:06.27 | darkbahamut | how do we do that? |
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| 08:08.57 | Unwise | darkbahamut: I'll paste an /etc/apt/sources.list that should provide it. copy and replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with that, so apt-get update then apt-get dist upgrade after that. Your connection works, no? |
| 08:09.21 | K`zan | Hi folks trying to install vmware tools and it wants the header files for my running kernel, could someone please let me know how I get that? |
| 08:10.19 | darkbahamut | ok but im not rly sure how this text internet thing works |
| 08:10.33 | K`zan | Just got through installing the distro... |
| 08:10.52 | K`zan | I did get gcc installed... |
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| 08:11.54 | darkbahamut | do i apt-get upgrade and dist now? |
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| 08:12.34 | Unwise | darkbahamut: it's short enough where you can write it down while reading it in winslop, then go back to debian, and no you don't have to do the upgrade yet |
| 08:14.34 | darkbahamut | by winslop do you meen windows? |
| 08:14.55 | darkbahamut | o.O winslop lol |
| 08:15.21 | darkbahamut | so i should switch now? |
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| 08:16.22 | vigneswari | hai all |
| 08:16.35 | darkbahamut | hai vigneswari |
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| 08:17.00 | Kevin` | hey |
| 08:17.08 | darkbahamut | hi kevin |
| 08:17.10 | Kevin` | noob question: what's the package name for adobe's flash player |
| 08:17.19 | darkbahamut | just saying hi at random.. dont mind me |
| 08:17.22 | vigneswari | in xchat source...some encoded form is there for making this channel as default. |
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| 08:19.09 | vigneswari | in the file src/common/serverlist.c |
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| 08:19.23 | vigneswari | sorry, servlist.c |
| 08:19.35 | vigneswari | how to get that encoding |
| 08:19.43 | Unwise | darkbahamut: here: http://paste.debian.net/42472 |
| 08:19.48 | darkbahamut | o |
| 08:19.53 | darkbahamut | should i be on windows? |
| 08:20.21 | nots | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-dvd/debian-40r1-i386-DVD-2.iso is broken. Downloads 381M only |
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| 08:20.50 | nots | wget says it is downloading from http://ftp.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-dvd/ |
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| 08:21.11 | Kevin` | nobody? :( |
| 08:21.12 | Unwise | either way - make the file /etc/apt/sources.list on your linux install read exactly as my paste. |
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| 08:21.40 | wols_ | !tell Kevin` about flash |
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| 08:21.52 | wols_ | Kevin`: you need a backport for it to work properly |
| 08:21.58 | darkbahamut | brb |
| 08:22.04 | Unwise | that was to darkbahamut: |
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| 08:22.11 | nots | !tell nots about broken iso |
| 08:22.15 | Unwise | cya |
| 08:23.06 | wols_ | Unwise: have you told him to eliminate acpi and apic yet? |
| 08:23.39 | wols_ | or do we know what hardware he has exactly? |
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| 08:26.13 | nots | btw. Yesterday I needed to replace disk to new one and I copied 512 bites with dd to new disk (MBR+partition info). Rebooted to reread partitions. Then dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 copied my root partition. mkswap /dev/hdb2 (hda2 was swap). Booting and it says me thousands of lines with GRUB GRUB GRUB etc |
| 08:26.18 | nots | ? |
| 08:26.36 | Unwise | wols_: not yet - but dpkg keeps pointing at nv and his latest reconfigure is picking up on nv identifier. i'm looking at doing a nice gentle in etch upgrade first then try the elimination |
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| 08:27.11 | Unwise | fglrx only if necessary |
| 08:27.42 | nots | Then booted back from hda and did grub-install --root-dir or something pointing to new disk / and it booted grub but did not find kernel, did not show me boot menu, only GRUB> |
| 08:27.49 | nots | what is the problem? |
| 08:27.56 | nots | or solution? :) |
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| 08:28.31 | Unwise | fire 'em all! |
| 08:28.39 | DarkBahamut | o.O |
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| 08:29.17 | DarkBahamut | afk for a bit gotta read this stuff |
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| 08:30.11 | DarkBahamut | you gave me 4 links? |
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| 08:32.56 | DarkBahamut | i need to go through them all? |
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| 08:35.01 | DarkBahamut | im not sure how that works yet |
| 08:35.26 | DarkBahamut | i know ive downloaded from it b4 and im able to access the irc |
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| 08:35.54 | DarkBahamut | i got a web connection im pretty sure |
| 08:36.14 | DarkBahamut | i dont know how the web browser would work though? |
| 08:36.53 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: 'k you do. log in as root, use nano to make the file /etc/apt/sources.list read exactly like what I pasted. Than do this: |
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| 08:38.04 | dimir | Moin! |
| 08:38.23 | hatter | any ideas what would stop the raid array from assembling on reboot ? |
| 08:40.41 | DarkBahamut | ok was writing down |
| 08:41.53 | DarkBahamut | so in this file i have to make paste all the links that you send in the paste zone? |
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| 08:42.31 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: yup. or type them in. |
| 08:42.44 | DarkBahamut | yup ill write them down now |
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| 08:42.55 | DarkBahamut | may take a little my writing sux |
| 08:43.01 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: make it read exactly |
| 08:43.16 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: so does mine... |
| 08:43.43 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: take your time |
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| 08:46.10 | Unwise | DarkBahamut:one line would be: deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 08:52.12 | subha | can we get/store client log files automatically in the server periodicaly ?how? |
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| 08:53.11 | DarkBahamut | ok unwise i think i got it |
| 08:53.15 | DarkBahamut | ill try it now |
| 08:53.16 | DarkBahamut | brb |
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| 08:54.19 | Unwise | DarkBahamut: depending on his connection speed, he may be gone fo a while... |
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| 09:00.04 | dacs | how to tell what sheel i am using |
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| 09:00.48 | kingtutt | salutations all! |
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| 09:00.59 | Unwise | all hail |
| 09:01.11 | kingtutt | ;) |
| 09:01.22 | Unwise | 8-) |
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| 09:01.54 | kingtutt | report faithful supporters... |
| 09:01.58 | simonrvn | echo $SHELL; (likely bash ;) |
| 09:02.02 | kingtutt | SATX, USA |
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| 09:02.15 | kingtutt | 3:05am |
| 09:02.25 | Unwise | BANGKOK THAILAND |
| 09:02.36 | Unwise | 4 pm |
| 09:02.41 | kingtutt | wow |
| 09:02.44 | dacs | simonrvn: thanks, also how can i view my .profile please |
| 09:02.54 | kingtutt | hey |
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| 09:03.11 | kingtutt | unwise, is it the 15th or 16th? |
| 09:03.20 | Unwise | 15th |
| 09:03.28 | simonrvn | dacs: editor .profile |
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| 09:03.33 | Deltantor | Oh noes |
| 09:03.35 | Asmooh | 15 nov/10:03am |
| 09:03.52 | dacs | simonrvn: i can use vi right |
| 09:03.56 | Deltantor | Did one of you tell someone to do a dist upgrade from debian-etch to ubuntu-gutsy? |
| 09:03.58 | simonrvn | sure |
| 09:04.13 | Unwise | yeesh |
| 09:04.15 | kingtutt | wha? |
| 09:04.29 | kingtutt | why would you want to do something like that? |
| 09:04.35 | simonrvn | Deltantor: not me. that's not an upgrade, that's a "sidegrade" |
| 09:04.42 | Asmooh | downgrade |
| 09:04.47 | Unwise | weirdgrade |
| 09:04.54 | Deltantor | ^ you win |
| 09:05.24 | kingtutt | People of #debian... |
| 09:05.25 | Deltantor | Srsly, its someone i know who would only take such weird advise from you guys |
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| 09:05.30 | darkbahamut | unwise? |
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| 09:05.44 | Unwise | yeah |
| 09:05.59 | darkbahamut | am i sopposed to start a new sources.list or make a new? |
| 09:05.59 | kingtutt | what is your favorite flavor of Debian, and not just because you use it all the time and love it |
| 09:06.04 | darkbahamut | i ment |
| 09:06.04 | kingtutt | just overall |
| 09:06.07 | darkbahamut | make a new |
| 09:06.08 | darkbahamut | or edit |
| 09:06.11 | Unwise | darkbahamut: make new |
| 09:06.11 | darkbahamut | and add |
| 09:06.15 | darkbahamut | k |
| 09:06.16 | simonrvn | kingtutt: what does that mean? |
| 09:06.28 | kingtutt | mine is Ubuntu Satanic Edition... |
| 09:06.30 | Asmooh | i dont use debian :P only at my servers |
| 09:06.36 | kingtutt | have ya'll seen it? |
| 09:06.47 | kingtutt | :| |
| 09:06.58 | Asmooh | BSD on desktop |
| 09:06.59 | Asmooh | ;) |
| 09:07.02 | Unwise | darkbahamut: and make it read exactly as I posted |
| 09:07.16 | mazzanet | hokay, let's say i have a genkernel. how does one disable driver support that has been compiled into the kernel? |
| 09:07.22 | simonrvn | yes, it's where someone from #ubuntu that's bored and starts trolling in #debian |
| 09:07.23 | mazzanet | ie. so i can use a module |
| 09:07.31 | streuner | Asmooh: BSE? |
| 09:07.35 | Asmooh | bsd |
| 09:07.53 | Unwise | Asmooh: and I like it - limited, tho |
| 09:08.11 | wols_ | !tell mazzanet about blacklist |
| 09:08.13 | Asmooh | Darwin asG3Power 8.10.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.0: Wed May 23 16:50:59 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.21.3~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc |
| 09:08.14 | Asmooh | ;) |
| 09:08.16 | streuner | Asmooh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy |
| 09:08.24 | kingtutt | who's trollin'? |
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| 09:08.29 | epsilon | ubuntu is an ancient african word for "I can't configure Debian" |
| 09:08.34 | kingtutt | LOL |
| 09:08.34 | Unwise | Asmooh: openbsd on firewalling boxes - can't beat it |
| 09:08.49 | Unwise | hehhehe |
| 09:08.50 | kingtutt | I love that joke! |
| 09:08.50 | Asmooh | Unwise, im using osx ;) |
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| 09:08.52 | Airbottle | is there a program available to start and close a program on certain times?? |
| 09:08.59 | Deltantor | debian is an ancient word for "wtf does debian stand for" |
| 09:09.02 | wols_ | Unwise: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ |
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| 09:09.11 | Deltantor | More seriously, wtf does debian stand for? |
| 09:09.18 | simonrvn | Airbottle: cron; man 5 crontab; man cron |
| 09:09.21 | wols_ | Deltantor: debbie and ian |
| 09:09.22 | Unwise | Asmooh: 'Just works' like a brick |
| 09:09.22 | epsilon | deborah & ian |
| 09:09.23 | darkbahamut | ok i think i got it correct |
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| 09:09.29 | kingtutt | its Debra + Ian |
| 09:09.33 | wols_ | oh yes deborah |
| 09:09.33 | Asmooh | hehe |
| 09:09.40 | kingtutt | the name of the inventor and his wife |
| 09:09.42 | darkbahamut | is there a way to view web pages with text mode linux? |
| 09:09.45 | kingtutt | summed! |
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| 09:09.52 | Asmooh | lynx |
| 09:09.53 | Asmooh | links |
| 09:09.56 | wols_ | darkbahamut: tons. get links or lynx |
| 09:10.17 | Airbottle | ok, thanks simonrvn |
| 09:10.17 | darkbahamut | ill get lynx it sounds cooler lol |
| 09:10.22 | kingtutt | people! |
| 09:10.24 | Unwise | darkbahamut: 'k now: do 'apt-get update' and come back |
| 09:10.30 | kingtutt | I got one for you... |
| 09:10.48 | darkbahamut | what will happen if its not correct unwise? |
| 09:10.50 | Deltantor | OSHIT |
| 09:10.52 | Deltantor | Since many people have asked, Debian is pronounced /ˈde.bi.ən/. It comes from the names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra. |
| 09:10.54 | Deltantor | you didnt lie |
| 09:10.57 | Deltantor | Im amazed |
| 09:11.02 | kingtutt | describe the "Debian Way" with only one example |
| 09:11.03 | Unwise | darkbahamut: lynx is better, I think |
| 09:11.04 | Asmooh | lol |
| 09:11.11 | darkbahamut | ill check it first |
| 09:11.15 | Unwise | kernel compile |
| 09:11.16 | wols_ | kingtutt: use aptitude |
| 09:11.31 | kingtutt | I thought we already established that... |
| 09:11.32 | Deltantor | Debian: Not Windows. |
| 09:11.45 | kingtutt | wols_ ===> why? |
| 09:11.46 | Deltantor | fuck, you can advertise any OS like that |
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| 09:11.56 | wols_ | kingtutt: do you have a debian related question? |
| 09:12.02 | kingtutt | I was asking a question |
| 09:12.07 | kingtutt | not really |
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| 09:12.09 | wols_ | not you were taking a poll |
| 09:12.21 | wols_ | and people who take polls are eaten by rabid badgers. and snakes |
| 09:12.27 | Asmooh | :') |
| 09:12.32 | kingtutt | that's your opinion |
| 09:12.36 | wols_ | !polls |
| 09:12.36 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 09:12.36 | Unwise | badger,badger |
| 09:12.41 | kingtutt | it was a riddle dipshit |
| 09:12.46 | wols_ | this is channel opinion |
| 09:12.55 | wols_ | kingtutt: don't do ad hominems please |
| 09:13.25 | kingtutt | till you have an @ in front of your name, your opinion means little to me |
| 09:14.05 | kingtutt | and is not the collective |
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| 09:14.05 | wols_ | !ops please educate kingtutt about debian |
| 09:14.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: wols_ complains about: please educate kingtutt about debian |
| 09:14.05 | wols_ | those are the ops |
| 09:14.05 | kingtutt | I don't understand why you must be mean |
| 09:14.08 | kingtutt | leave the ops alone |
| 09:14.14 | kingtutt | i know plenty about Debian |
| 09:14.21 | wols_ | then don't be OT in #debian |
| 09:14.34 | wols_ | or call people "dipshit" |
| 09:14.36 | kingtutt | perhaps you should read your manifesto again |
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| 09:14.54 | kingtutt | OT |
| 09:14.55 | Asmooh | guys comeone.. grow up and stop doing this |
| 09:15.05 | kingtutt | ok |
| 09:15.07 | Deltantor | I agree |
| 09:15.15 | Unwise | please |
| 09:15.19 | kingtutt | I'm just wondering why I was attacked |
| 09:15.23 | kingtutt | dropped |
| 09:15.31 | kingtutt | the collective wins |
| 09:15.38 | wols_ | !enter |
| 09:15.39 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 09:15.41 | darkbahamut | i couldent download lynx so i just did the apt-get and upgrade |
| 09:15.48 | kingtutt | that's debian for you... |
| 09:16.01 | Deltantor | Dave2, because you love me |
| 09:16.02 | wols_ | darkbahamut: what was the error when you tried to install lynx? |
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| 09:16.11 | darkbahamut | umm |
| 09:16.13 | Unwise | darkbahamut: no errors? |
| 09:16.15 | darkbahamut | long error |
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| 09:16.40 | Dave2 | er, fail. Deltantor: yeeees. |
| 09:16.46 | darkbahamut | looks like the error from lynx is about the file i just changed |
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| 09:16.57 | darkbahamut | no errors with update unwise |
| 09:16.59 | Unwise | and it said |
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| 09:17.29 | Unwise | darkbahamut: and apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 09:18.07 | darkbahamut | i did that |
| 09:18.17 | darkbahamut | i wrote it down b4 so im ahead :D |
| 09:18.31 | Unwise | darkbahamut: wha'd it say? |
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| 09:18.37 | darkbahamut | let me check |
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| 09:19.15 | darkbahamut | 0 upgraded 0 new 0 removed 0 not installed |
| 09:19.29 | darkbahamut | but it did something it said done |
| 09:19.33 | kingtutt | do I stink? |
| 09:20.02 | simonrvn | depends, bathed today? :P |
| 09:20.07 | Unwise | darkbahamut: and apt-get update said what? and did before that? |
| 09:20.14 | kingtutt | yes |
| 09:20.28 | stew | !smelly kingtutt |
| 09:20.29 | dpkg | ewww, someone get rid of the week-old cheese and kingtutt! |
| 09:20.29 | kingtutt | but that's not what I was refereing to |
| 09:20.34 | kingtutt | nm |
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| 09:21.18 | kingtutt | Debian Rocks! not too sure about some of the people in here, but Debian Rocks! |
| 09:21.30 | Unwise | darkbahamut: ya there? |
| 09:21.32 | Deltantor | Debian is horrible, only people who know what they are doing use it! |
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| 09:21.50 | Deltantor | too bad that isnt true |
| 09:21.52 | kingtutt | ;) |
| 09:21.53 | darkbahamut | Reading Package Lists: done, Building Dependency Tree: done, Calculating Update: done.. |
| 09:22.02 | darkbahamut | thats what it said |
| 09:22.18 | Unwise | darkbahamut: cool. |
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| 09:22.45 | Unwise | darkbahamut: now you have a real package tree |
| 09:22.46 | darkbahamut | my copying with no way of copy and paste sux sry it took long |
| 09:22.56 | Asmooh | welll |
| 09:22.58 | wols_ | darkbahamut: install gpm |
| 09:22.59 | Asmooh | rocks rocks.. |
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| 09:23.01 | Jyzygzy- | where does fetchmail downlad the mail? |
| 09:23.02 | Asmooh | its nice.. but rocks? |
| 09:23.15 | Unwise | darkbahamut: apt-get install gpm |
| 09:23.22 | darkbahamut | k |
| 09:23.23 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: nowhere. it hands them over to your MTA |
| 09:23.24 | simmerz|work | one of my servers is sliding by 4 seconds every day. I get an alert from ntpdate |
| 09:23.32 | kingtutt | ok so does it bother you that it seems our field/culture/whatever is making it easier for people to do things in which they really have absolutley no business doing. |
| 09:23.35 | wols_ | Unwise: aptitude only |
| 09:23.54 | darkbahamut | done |
| 09:23.55 | kingtutt | Ok |
| 09:24.02 | stew | Jyzygzy-: it hands it to sendmail unless you explicitly specify an MDA |
| 09:24.03 | wols_ | darkbahamut: use your mouse now |
| 09:24.03 | kingtutt | i do have a question |
| 09:24.04 | Jyzygzy- | wols_ where does the MTA put it? |
| 09:24.14 | darkbahamut | woa cool mouse works |
| 09:24.19 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: wherever your configure your MTA |
| 09:24.22 | Unwise | wols_: sorry, i have a different pref. |
| 09:24.41 | wols_ | Unwise: I never use it either, but it's the standard for etch. deal with it |
| 09:24.44 | Jyzygzy- | what is the default? |
| 09:24.57 | stew | Jyzygzy-: generally it would be /var/spool/mail/username or maybe ~user/Mail or ~user/Maildir |
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| 09:25.05 | Unwise | wols_: 'k |
| 09:25.12 | Jyzygzy- | ic |
| 09:25.25 | darkbahamut | hey what time is it over there unwise and wols |
| 09:25.32 | wols_ | Unwise: it's cause it's a problem right now to switch between aptitude and apt-get. best to start darkbahamut properly :) |
| 09:25.38 | kingtutt | I'm currious which IRCd to use, I wanna apt-get it so there's hybrid ircuII and i can't remember the other |
| 09:25.49 | Asmooh | just use unreal :) |
| 09:25.53 | Asmooh | unrealircd.com ? |
| 09:25.58 | Unwise | wols_: yeah, I agree - huge probs |
| 09:26.01 | kingtutt | Anyone had any experience running IRC (server) on Deb |
| 09:26.02 | kingtutt | ? |
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| 09:26.11 | Asmooh | kingtutt, i use unreal |
| 09:26.13 | kingtutt | yeah? |
| 09:26.18 | Asmooh | not any apt-get installed ircd |
| 09:26.28 | stew | kingtutt: apt-cache showpkg ircd ; iirc there are only hybrid and ircu |
| 09:26.30 | kingtutt | what about services... |
| 09:26.35 | Asmooh | anope/epona |
| 09:26.36 | Unwise | darkbahamut: it's almost 4:30 in the afternoon |
| 09:26.37 | harpal | kingtutt, use konversation |
| 09:26.45 | darkbahamut | o not bad |
| 09:26.46 | Jyzygzy- | wols_ i can't find it |
| 09:26.48 | kingtutt | I'm trying out hybrid now, and its really flaky |
| 09:26.58 | darkbahamut | 11:30 pm here in hawaii |
| 09:26.59 | Unwise | darkbahamut: and you? |
| 09:26.59 | Dave2 | I ran dancer locally for about 2 minutes. I wouldn't recommend it. |
| 09:27.06 | Asmooh | unreal + anope + neostats rulez :) |
| 09:27.07 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: I didn't tell you where to find it |
| 09:27.09 | kingtutt | ok |
| 09:27.14 | kingtutt | so compile unreal |
| 09:27.17 | kingtutt | ??? |
| 09:27.19 | Asmooh | yea |
| 09:27.20 | Unwise | darkbahamut: don't get too burnt |
| 09:27.24 | Asmooh | just ./Config :) |
| 09:27.35 | darkbahamut | i stay up till 12 normaly |
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| 09:27.47 | Jyzygzy- | wols_ in what log file will i saw where the mile was sended |
| 09:27.50 | Jyzygzy- | mail |
| 09:27.51 | darkbahamut | but 1 or 2 is nothing if needed |
| 09:27.53 | kingtutt | ___ harpal --- konverstation? never heard of it...is it a client or server? |
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| 09:28.04 | kingtutt | ok...one more. |
| 09:28.06 | Asmooh | msn, messengrer, client |
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| 09:28.10 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: read what I wrote you about 4 hours ago or so |
| 09:28.11 | harpal | its client, its good |
| 09:28.34 | Jyzygzy- | wols_ i don't have buffer |
| 09:28.41 | moope1 | how do I select a port for wget |
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| 09:28.43 | stew | Jyzygzy-: /var/log/mail.log |
| 09:28.47 | darkbahamut | so umm what to do from here what was the update for? |
| 09:28.49 | kingtutt | bah |
| 09:28.52 | kingtutt | need server |
| 09:28.56 | Jyzygzy- | stew i can see the fetchmail getting all my emails |
| 09:28.59 | harpal | ircd |
| 09:29.05 | Jyzygzy- | it says "flushed" for all mails |
| 09:29.12 | Asmooh | kingtutt, whats wrong with the thing i said? |
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| 09:29.40 | kingtutt | what's the deal with Exim4? It's supposed to be a dropin for sendmail, right? |
| 09:30.08 | Asmooh | never used sendmail:) |
| 09:30.10 | kingtutt | but howcome so many rmail, mutt, hookey, pookey, and all that jazz |
| 09:30.18 | kingtutt | you're lucky |
| 09:30.26 | Asmooh | only exim + courier |
| 09:30.27 | kingtutt | well, its not so bad now |
| 09:30.43 | Asmooh | yea but i can add new users in a mysql DB kingtutt :) |
| 09:30.45 | Asmooh | and i like it |
| 09:30.49 | kingtutt | that's all I would need for an email solution |
| 09:30.55 | stew | kingtutt: yes, exim4 is a MTA like sendmail |
| 09:30.57 | kingtutt | say pop and smtp |
| 09:31.13 | kingtutt | i understand that(thanks tho) |
| 09:31.40 | kingtutt | but it just seems so convoluted, but yet not... |
| 09:31.45 | stew | kingtutt: what does? |
| 09:31.46 | kingtutt | i dunno |
| 09:31.52 | kingtutt | Exim4 |
| 09:31.55 | hatter | i am missing something, i cant see why s/w raid is not appearing on reboot, i have /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf i can assemble the arrays, md and raid1 are loaded as modules, but reboot they dont appear |
| 09:32.03 | stew | kingtutt: can you be more specific? |
| 09:32.06 | hardcampa | all mail is sort-of convoluted once you've gotten down to do some dirty configuring |
| 09:32.22 | Jyzygzy- | so |
| 09:32.28 | Jyzygzy- | where did the fetchmail put my mail? |
| 09:32.29 | hardcampa | mail and mailservers is a big area of expertice |
| 09:32.33 | Jyzygzy- | where did exim4 put my mail? |
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| 09:33.04 | kingtutt | I'm not exactly sure the names of all the little helpers that caravan but it seems as though there are too many |
| 09:33.14 | stew | kingtutt: what are you trying to do? |
| 09:33.19 | kingtutt | lol |
| 09:33.27 | stew | Jyzygzy-: you switched from postfix to exim? |
| 09:33.32 | Jyzygzy- | sure |
| 09:33.40 | stew | Jyzygzy-: most likely it put it in /var/spool/mail/username |
| 09:34.03 | Jyzygzy- | usernames are empty |
| 09:34.03 | kingtutt | well I'm just tryin gto provide a homebrew email solution for my domain |
| 09:34.10 | stew | Jyzygzy-: which, iirc would be /var/spool/mail/aids |
| 09:34.11 | kingtutt | website |
| 09:34.22 | Jyzygzy- | stew its empty |
| 09:34.33 | Jyzygzy- | so is /var/mail/aids |
| 09:34.34 | stew | kingtutt: you are going to have to ask more specific questions if you want us to hel pyou |
| 09:34.44 | hardcampa | if you are setting up a mailserver from scratch with "everything" this guide really owns: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ |
| 09:34.47 | kingtutt | i was getting to that |
| 09:34.52 | stew | Jyzygzy-: then look at ~aids/Mail and ~/aids/Maildir |
| 09:34.59 | kingtutt | thatnks though |
| 09:35.23 | kingtutt | i'm not high enough for this right now |
| 09:35.23 | Jyzygzy- | stew empty |
| 09:35.33 | kingtutt | ya'll keep it real |
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| 09:35.55 | wols_ | ah high. explains a lot |
| 09:36.03 | kingtutt | you all rock! even that one dude who was talking shit... |
| 09:36.06 | kingtutt | yes |
| 09:36.12 | kingtutt | perfect timing dude |
| 09:36.23 | kingtutt | bye all |
| 09:36.28 | Unwise | darkbahamut: I'm headed to the driving range in a couple, so I gotta bug. There's a something to try right now: try booting with the kernel options noapic and noacpi to see if there's any change. do this bu editing the grub entry when it comes up just hit 'e' and edit the appropriate like kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.22lap02 root=/dev/sda5 ro noapic |
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| 09:37.18 | Jyzygzy- | so |
| 09:37.20 | Jyzygzy- | where is it? |
| 09:37.22 | stew | Jyzygzy-: can you run "echo test | sendmail aids" and see if something shows up in any of those locations? |
| 09:37.37 | darkbahamut | allright unwise thanks for the help |
| 09:37.45 | Unwise | darkbahamut: if you blow it it'll correct itself on reboot |
| 09:37.57 | darkbahamut | o.O |
| 09:38.11 | Jyzygzy- | stew it does not |
| 09:38.15 | darkbahamut | cool |
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| 09:38.59 | darkbahamut | thanks again unwise im writing down now |
| 09:39.40 | stew | Jyzygzy-: then it is a problem with the way exim is setup |
| 09:39.52 | Jyzygzy- | so where are the mails then |
| 09:39.56 | Unwise | darkbahamut: You should now hae in your available repositories debianized packages of the proprietary nvidia drivers and kernel modules - you may have to install these to get the graphics working on that slab.... |
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| 09:40.36 | wols_ | darkbahamut: what model laptop is this exactly? |
| 09:41.01 | darkbahamut | model is hp dv6040us |
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| 09:42.18 | darkbahamut | weird thing is when i plug in an external crt monitor i can get to the desktop with no black screen but it only works randomly sometimes i get black screen with that |
| 09:42.27 | wols_ | darkbahamut: what hardware? cpu, chipset and videocard for now |
| 09:42.30 | darkbahamut | this is from b4 this would happen |
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| 09:43.00 | darkbahamut | hmm i dont have all that info on me right now wols =/ |
| 09:43.22 | wols_ | you do. you sit at this hardware |
| 09:43.29 | darkbahamut | i can log onto windows to give you a website with that info |
| 09:43.37 | wols_ | no |
| 09:43.48 | wols_ | lspci tells us chipset and videocard. cat /proc/cpuinfo tells cpu |
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| 09:44.05 | darkbahamut | o |
| 09:44.11 | darkbahamut | k 1 sec |
| 09:45.21 | Unwise | darkbahamut: http://arrrr.com/dv6567cl.shtml - debian on a similar model... |
| 09:46.22 | darkbahamut | is there a way to page up in the console? |
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| 09:47.08 | wols_ | darkbahamut: not really. you can add "| less" to a command so you can scroll inside its output |
| 09:47.19 | wols_ | lspci | less for example |
| 09:47.30 | darkbahamut | cool |
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| 09:47.46 | darkbahamut | how do i copy again now that i got mouse? |
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| 09:48.09 | Unwise | darkbahamut: My bride is hollering - gotta go. cheers all! |
| 09:48.11 | _3mend0 | re all |
| 09:48.18 | darkbahamut | cya wise thanks again |
| 09:48.20 | _3mend0 | re all |
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| 09:48.49 | wols_ | select with left mouse button, paste with middle mouse button (usually) |
| 09:49.26 | darkbahamut | cool |
| 09:49.26 | Jyzygzy- | where is my mail |
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| 09:49.48 | XoX | is there a tool that can tell the size of the memory modules in the motherboard? |
| 09:49.56 | XoX | on the motherboard |
| 09:49.59 | wols_ | XoX: dmidecode. but not always |
| 09:50.08 | darkbahamut | umm want me to paste it all theres alot wouldent it be like spamming? |
| 09:50.20 | wols_ | darkbahamut: pastebin |
| 09:50.39 | wols_ | but with lspci you can see your chipset with cat /proc/cpuinfo you see your cputype |
| 09:50.53 | wols_ | or see what unwise wrote |
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| 09:51.45 | lubos | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:51.48 | darkbahamut | umm this copy thing is not working |
| 09:51.57 | wols_ | lubos: what for? |
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| 09:52.16 | wols_ | lubos: you don't have to call it ever yourself usually |
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| 09:53.45 | lubos | wols_: I need to add modules for raid and create new initrd.img |
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| 09:54.07 | wols_ | what modules? |
| 09:54.08 | stew | lubos: you should only use mkinitrd with kernels < 2.6.13, with recent kernels, use mkinitramfs from initramfs-tools. though you should be building yoru kernels with make-kpkg and the --initrd option so that this is done for you (/msg dpkg kp) |
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| 09:54.15 | wols_ | dpkg-reconfigure your kernel deb |
| 09:54.43 | stew | lubos: is this a cusom kernel or a debian built kernel? |
| 09:54.45 | lubos | stew: thanks |
| 09:55.00 | lubos | stew: default kernel |
| 09:55.32 | stew | lubos: then yeah, what wols_ said, dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) (or linux-image-2.6..whatever) |
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| 09:56.44 | darkbahamut | is there a way to access the internet like a web browser with text mode? |
| 09:56.50 | darkbahamut | wait |
| 09:56.54 | darkbahamut | nvm i asked that |
| 09:56.54 | darkbahamut | umm |
| 09:57.10 | darkbahamut | what is the command to install lynx i think i got it wrong b4 |
| 09:57.46 | wols_ | aptitude install lynx |
| 09:57.51 | wols_ | but I suggest links personally |
| 09:58.01 | wols_ | can lynx do frames yet? |
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| 10:02.10 | stew | w3m! |
| 10:02.16 | darkbahamut | cool this browser rocks |
| 10:02.37 | darkbahamut | what was the debian paste website again? |
| 10:02.43 | wols_ | paste.debian.net |
| 10:02.59 | darkbahamut | k thanks |
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| 10:03.21 | wols_ | stew: ever heard how a hp notebook with some nvidia 8xxx go chip gives a black screen for X with nv and vesa and needs to be rebooted? |
| 10:03.26 | wols_ | console seems to work fine |
| 10:03.47 | stew | wols_: nfi |
| 10:04.09 | stew | i assume someone has pointed to <laptops> |
| 10:05.21 | wols_ | I already looked. nothing pertinent I could see |
| 10:05.35 | wols_ | right now I'm asking him for exact hardware specs of cpu chipset and video |
| 10:05.47 | wols_ | his laptop's model is there not listed |
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| 10:09.58 | |bb7| | hi, we had brute force attacks going from our server to another. The kern.log on our server has many messages like this: |
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| 10:11.10 | |bb7| | localhost kernel: ssh[26040]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 0000000008048e33 rsp 00000000ff82eb10 error 4 |
| 10:11.13 | darkbahamut | sry for the wait im still getting to know this browser |
| 10:11.25 | darkbahamut | i cant find out how to get the current link |
| 10:11.48 | |bb7| | is that a hardware problem or could that have something todo with a ssh attack? |
| 10:11.49 | wols_ | darkbahamut: no worries. got it |
| 10:11.52 | simonrvn | looks like ssh was crashing with a SIGSEGV |
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| 10:12.07 | darkbahamut | sry it took so long wols |
| 10:12.08 | simonrvn | what's auth.log say? |
| 10:12.15 | |bb7| | simonrvn: what does that mean? should I simply restart it? |
| 10:12.25 | |bb7| | mom |
| 10:12.38 | wols_ | darkbahamut: see this line 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 01d6 (rev a1) |
| 10:12.42 | simonrvn | note, compare timestamps |
| 10:12.52 | wols_ | darkbahamut: run update-pciids and rerun lspci and check what chip it is now |
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| 10:13.11 | darkbahamut | k |
| 10:13.28 | wols_ | ah. gf7200go. found it |
| 10:13.35 | wols_ | nv should support it |
| 10:14.22 | gkiagia | hi, I installed sun-java6-doc but I cannot find where it installed the docs. They are not in /usr/share/doc. any idea? |
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| 10:14.28 | _3mend0 | hi every body I would like allowed my Wifi card working properly what I can do I tried to googling but I didn't find any regarding sony vaio vgn-a517b where I can see my wifi chip ?? so I can install a good one in advance thanks |
| 10:15.01 | simonrvn | crap, i'm passing out. i won't be able to continue helping |bb7| - sorry |
| 10:15.01 | wols_ | gkiagia: dpkg -L <package> |
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| 10:15.40 | darkbahamut | 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7200 (rev a1) |
| 10:15.41 | darkbahamut | 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7200 (rev a1) |
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| 10:15.54 | darkbahamut | 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7200 (rev a1) |
| 10:16.02 | darkbahamut | that it? |
| 10:16.15 | darkbahamut | oops it pasted 3 times |
| 10:16.37 | gkiagia | thanks wols_ |
| 10:16.52 | wols_ | yes it is, but as I said, it should be supported afaik |
| 10:17.43 | darkbahamut | now it dosent say unknown device? |
| 10:18.24 | wols_ | darkbahamut: you have run with your kernelparameters acpi=off noapic btw? |
| 10:18.35 | darkbahamut | not yet |
| 10:18.38 | wols_ | darkbahamut: no, since you updated your pci ids with that command |
| 10:18.40 | wols_ | darkbahamut: do it please |
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| 10:19.30 | darkbahamut | how do i do that again? |
| 10:19.39 | darkbahamut | i didnt have time to write it down b4 |
| 10:19.43 | buu | Can anyone recommend a tool that would let me "truncate" an mp3 file? |
| 10:19.54 | wols_ | at your grub menu, select the kernel you want, press "e" |
| 10:20.16 | darkbahamut | o ok |
| 10:20.26 | wols_ | then there when the vmlinuz line comes up, append "acpi=off noapic" without the quotes at the end of that line |
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| 10:20.40 | wols_ | buu: I think there was mp3cut, but not sure |
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| 10:21.47 | darkbahamut | ok ill be back in a few |
| 10:21.57 | buu | wols_: Hrm. |
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| 10:26.51 | mizerydearia | Using putty, how can I type or send non-ascii characters such as hex 90 (int 144 / asc )? |
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| 10:28.40 | Jyzygzy- | i don't think you can |
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| 10:29.27 | Sty1 | hello anybody there, wich can help me? I have a root over nFS System. But when i want to login with gnome it stands, and the nettraffic isn#t very high. |
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| 10:29.44 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: I'm curious which MTA did you run when the mails were lost? |
| 10:29.52 | Jyzygzy- | wols_ exim4 |
| 10:30.05 | wols_ | and what does your mail log say? |
| 10:30.13 | Jyzygzy- | what mail log? |
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| 10:30.25 | Jyzygzy- | you mean the /var/log/mail.log |
| 10:30.44 | DarkBahamut | hey wols |
| 10:30.50 | wols_ | hm? |
| 10:30.54 | DarkBahamut | sry i wasent able to try it yet |
| 10:31.01 | DarkBahamut | i gtg to sleep thats why |
| 10:31.11 | Jyzygzy- | i can see in my mail.log that fetchmail took everything |
| 10:31.25 | DarkBahamut | and i made a mistake with the command to add |
| 10:31.25 | Jyzygzy- | the most important mails from 5 years |
| 10:31.45 | wols_ | DarkBahamut: if you are up to it, #debian is here all week (and even longer) |
| 10:32.08 | wols_ | I predict there will always be around 600+ people here tho there are quite a bit less active ones at any given time |
| 10:32.15 | Sty1 | hello anybody there, wich can help me? I have a root over nFS System. But when i want to login with gnome it stands, and the nettraffic isn#t very high. I need help ^^ |
| 10:32.18 | DarkBahamut | cool |
| 10:32.24 | DarkBahamut | will try again tomorrow? |
| 10:32.26 | rubymonk | DAMNIT apt-proxy died again!!! |
| 10:32.27 | rubymonk | :( |
| 10:32.31 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: paste and entry. also check for exim5 logs, not fetchmail |
| 10:32.44 | Jyzygzy- | i dont know where they are |
| 10:32.48 | Jyzygzy- | exim logs |
| 10:32.54 | wols_ | they are in mail.log |
| 10:33.02 | wols_ | as stew told you |
| 10:33.03 | Jyzygzy- | no they are not |
| 10:33.05 | DarkBahamut | gnite everyone ill be back tomorrow |
| 10:33.11 | wols_ | nite |
| 10:33.14 | Sty1 | nobody who can help me? |
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| 10:39.33 | vovo | how can I make 'tar' command tarball everything except the hidden files and folders beginning with . ? |
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| 10:43.38 | vovo | I find the pattern matching of tar --exclude=PATTERN to be that of wildcards like in glob. am I right? |
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| 10:50.31 | _3mend0 | sorry I would like install beryl but I can't find on the apt why ?? |
| 10:50.42 | xand | !beryl |
| 10:50.42 | dpkg | beryl is a compositing window manager for the X Window System. It is a fork of <Compiz>. http://beryl-project.org/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl_(window_manager) |
| 10:51.08 | _3mend0 | thanks =) |
| 10:51.14 | xand | it's not in debian afaik |
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| 10:51.50 | _3mend0 | buT can I install ? even is't in default ?? |
| 10:52.35 | up365 | _3mend0, http://lunapark6.com/debian-40-etch.html this will work for etch |
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| 10:52.57 | _3mend0 | thanks =) |
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| 11:01.33 | et | when i add "experimental" to sources.list, it won't be used in updates, only if i explicitely ask for packages, yes? |
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| 11:13.28 | anebi | hi |
| 11:13.46 | anebi | i want to ask for some good software for testing hardware on a server |
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| 11:15.01 | Pieth | Hi |
| 11:15.04 | pippo | ubuntu*? |
| 11:15.09 | pippo | i meant debian off course |
| 11:15.10 | solemnwarning | I've got squid setup with winbind auth, can squid be configured to log the users that access the proxy? |
| 11:17.06 | Pieth | Does anyone know how I can see a list of files a package would create when I install it? |
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| 11:32.05 | tortho | I'm new to debian. I had no network at install, and my sources.list is quite small... What is the official sources.list? I tried to search, but find only pices of it.. |
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| 11:32.19 | tortho | using 4.0r1 |
| 11:32.29 | cast | !sources.list |
| 11:32.30 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 11:46.19 | jfincher | any experts on the DFSG here? Would a program whose source was under a free software license, but which did not include the database schema for the db it interacted with still be considered DFSG-compliant? |
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| 11:48.26 | amaia | hi, i'm trying to remove a degraded disk of a raid1 disk, but get this error: mdadm --remove /dev/md0 /dev/sdb3 |
| 11:48.26 | amaia | mdadm: hot remove failed for /dev/sdb3: Device or resource busy |
| 11:48.36 | amaia | what's wrong? how can I remove the disk? |
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| 11:50.59 | simmerz|work | is it possible to change the hostname of a machine without rebooting it? |
| 11:51.14 | SlayerXP | simmerz|work: of course. |
| 11:51.53 | simmerz|work | SlayerXP: ah, I set the hostname file, and then run the command hostname <newhostname> |
| 11:51.54 | simmerz|work | found it |
| 11:52.46 | jbt | amaia: try if with -f and the -r |
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| 11:53.18 | amaia | jbt, none works... |
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| 11:54.41 | cahoot | amaia: does fuser -v /dev/sdb3 return any info? |
| 11:55.40 | amaia | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.41 | amaia | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.41 | amaia | /dev/sdb3 |
| 11:55.41 | amaia | this |
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| 11:55.56 | amaia | sorry |
| 11:56.04 | amaia | cahoot, got the 3 lines? |
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| 12:07.35 | sigp239 | Hi what is the source package for ALSA? |
| 12:07.43 | Asmooh | alsa-base |
| 12:07.55 | sigp239 | Like, to compile other programs that depend on it or whatever |
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| 12:10.39 | Mark17 | is there somewhere a mirror that makes that the following works: apt-get install xen (even unstable is no problem)? (at last i need the opensource option off xen) |
| 12:10.53 | mikes_ | melodosgr: just ignore nuclear |
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| 12:11.20 | mikes_ | melodosgr: do you read me? |
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| 12:23.10 | s4xxon | hello, i have a testing repo in my sources.list file , and when i update i get : GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org testing Release . i tried different kind of keys that i found on the web but none of them did fix my problem |
| 12:23.15 | s4xxon | this problem appeared a few days ago |
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| 12:25.12 | DawnLight | !keys |
| 12:25.19 | DawnLight | !keys |
| 12:26.03 | s4xxon | !keys |
| 12:26.24 | DawnLight | !key |
| 12:26.25 | dpkg | somebody said key was Install the latest debian-archive-keyring package to get the latest gpg key used to sign the Debian archive |
| 12:26.45 | s4xxon | i got debina-archive-keyring installed |
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| 12:27.21 | DawnLight | pfft then i dunno sorry |
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| 12:28.39 | sep | s4xxon, tried the key listed in the the faq http://www.debian-unofficial.org/faq.html |
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| 12:29.21 | capiira | hmmm hi what does dfsg-* in a package version mean ? |
| 12:29.32 | s4xxon | that worked , thanks :) |
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| 12:29.41 | s4xxon | one more question, is vmware player available as a deb file ? |
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| 12:30.06 | vermi | Deltantor, gtfo! |
| 12:30.06 | capiira | why not virtual box ? |
| 12:30.53 | sep | s4xxon, there is a package called vmware-package (iirc) that can make a .deb out of the vmware tgz's |
| 12:31.15 | s4xxon | searching the repos i couldnt find anything that was specific to vmware... |
| 12:31.16 | vermi | here's my issue, nice issue-helping folks: i'm using rescue mode on the install cd because cryptsetup is using /dev/hda5 when it should be using /dev/sda5, so i need to get into the config and change that bit |
| 12:31.19 | sep | s4xxon, becouse of lisence restrictions i dont think anyone redistributes those .deb's |
| 12:31.40 | capiira | sure |
| 12:31.40 | vermi | so in the rescue mode, i unlock the filesystem by using cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 test |
| 12:32.02 | sep | s4xxon, search in p.d.o |
| 12:32.02 | vermi | but when i try to mount /dev/mapper/test /mnt/test/ i get "Invalid argument" |
| 12:32.09 | capiira | i already saw a few debs for vmplayer but can't remember anymore where i saw it :D |
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| 12:32.23 | capiira | but was player alone |
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| 12:34.01 | |bb7| | hi, how can i remove this: route add <ip> reject ? |
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| 12:36.07 | vermi | and if I try to mount -t ext2fs /dev/mapper/test /mnt/test I get "No such device" |
| 12:36.13 | capiira | ok i know now that dfsg = Debian Free Software Guidelines but why a few packages have it in their version tags? |
| 12:37.08 | mikes_ | melodosgr: i cannot send pm's cause i am not registered. |
| 12:37.27 | melodosgr | :P |
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| 12:37.55 | melodosgr | what r we gonna do then:P |
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| 12:39.07 | vermi | no suggestions? |
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| 12:46.09 | vadmeste | ok, I know it's not the right place to ask ? but can I ping a machine in a LAN that I know just its MAC adress ? |
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| 12:50.40 | vovo | Can't locate X11/WMCtrl.pm in @INC - I did, "aptitude install wmctrl" but still the same error comes |
| 12:51.18 | BotaniCar | is there a tool for converting my server to a vmware image ? |
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| 12:52.50 | sep | BotaniCar, i'v usualy done, 1: if needed remake initrd to get the needed modules , 2: dd my disk to a imagefile. 3: convert image file to vmdk using qemu-img, 4: use the vmdk as disk in a vmware |
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| 12:53.26 | BotaniCar | qemu-img, you say ; thx a bunch, ill have to google a bit on it ! |
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| 12:55.34 | TwistedGenius | BotaniCar, vmware server i guess |
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| 12:56.03 | kemel | hi. i guess i screwed my pkg-config |
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| 12:56.33 | kemel | every time i try to install somethin i got this error: files list file for package `pkg-config' is missing final newline |
| 12:56.46 | kemel | what can i do |
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| 12:57.45 | kemel | can anyone help me? |
| 12:58.57 | dacs | kemel: with what |
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| 12:59.23 | mikes_ | kemel: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/apt-get-dpkg-error-files-list-file-...-missing-final-newline-271118/#post1375972 it may help you |
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| 12:59.48 | mikes_ | ooops wrong link |
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| 13:03.54 | kemel | i had even downloaded the .deb pkg-config file from the debian web site, unpacked and overwrited the binaries manually |
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| 13:07.35 | kemel | does anyone have a hint? |
| 13:10.27 | xand | !ndispluginwrapper |
| 13:10.31 | xand | hm |
| 13:11.08 | Legendario | ???? |
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| 13:12.39 | gkiagia | is it normal that eclipse alone running takes up 2 GB of ram ???? |
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| 13:13.12 | gileswwwrk | it is a memory hog but thats a lot |
| 13:13.43 | gileswwwrk | i remember the search used to freeze up my machine |
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| 13:14.02 | gkiagia | I didn't do anything special... I just opened a small project and added a new class |
| 13:14.18 | gkiagia | and I am using eclipse-gcj |
| 13:14.36 | gkiagia | all is running with gcj in fact...... |
| 13:14.41 | gileswwwrk | I dunno fella try #eclipse |
| 13:14.47 | gileswwwrk | i'm not a developer |
| 13:14.51 | gkiagia | ok |
| 13:15.49 | gileswwwrk | i got a quick qu, is it okay to run etch with a kernel from testing? |
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| 13:16.10 | blq | hi, I'm trying to get my sound working. I'm using a nforce2 board with a onboard soundstorm soundchip. I've read that I should use alsa drivers. I've installed alsa-base and alsa-utils and ran alsaconf and selected the proper sound device... some how it still doesn't seem to work :( |
| 13:16.11 | gileswwwrk | I'm trying to create xen dom 0 server |
| 13:16.18 | patrick-- | Hey, im having trouble packing debian packages. when trying to install a package I get "Archive too short" in return.. |
| 13:16.25 | patrick-- | Photon :D |
| 13:16.29 | Photon | o/ |
| 13:16.40 | patrick-- | <- dyna |
| 13:16.41 | gileswwwrk | and I've resorted to using ubuntu really because it comes with a newer kernel |
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| 13:17.35 | techbie | !tell gileswwwrk about backports |
| 13:17.38 | sep | gileswwwrk, i would have used a kernel from backports |
| 13:17.39 | techbie | !tell gileswwwrk about backport |
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| 13:17.58 | gileswwwrk | heya techbie |
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| 13:18.08 | gileswwwrk | I think I looked for a xen kernel on backports |
| 13:18.11 | gileswwwrk | no joy |
| 13:18.33 | Legendario | any help with my pkg-config problem??? |
| 13:18.42 | blq | snd-mixer-oss |
| 13:18.48 | blq | woops wrong window sry |
| 13:19.21 | techbie | gileswwwrk, i missed xen part |
| 13:19.48 | gileswwwrk | no problemo |
| 13:19.54 | gileswwwrk | i would like to run etch |
| 13:20.04 | gileswwwrk | ubuntu is nasty |
| 13:20.13 | gileswwwrk | inconsistent |
| 13:20.39 | gileswwwrk | I've been trying to preseed it and the preseed file is fine for etch |
| 13:20.52 | gileswwwrk | but gutsy falls over at the partitioning stuff |
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| 13:21.53 | vovo | how can I install this header file X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h |
| 13:22.12 | bahadunn | vovo: find out what -dev package it is in and install the package I reckon |
| 13:22.13 | gileswwwrk | probably a devel package |
| 13:22.15 | patrick-- | Hey, im having trouble packing debian packages. when trying to install a package I get "Archive too short" in return.. |
| 13:22.23 | patrick-- | anyone know what could cause this? |
| 13:22.26 | vovo | bahadunn: how can I find the package? |
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| 13:23.17 | vovo | can someone give me the deb-src sources.list line? |
| 13:23.30 | bahadunn | vovo: /msg dpkg find scrnsaver.h ? |
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| 13:24.46 | bahadunn | vovo: x11proto-scrnsaver-dev |
| 13:25.34 | vovo | bahadunn: yeah dpkg told me, can I try any similar client on shell? |
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| 13:25.42 | gileswwwrk | hrm there doesn't seem to be a linux-image...xen in unstable |
| 13:25.45 | bahadunn | vovo: what do you mean? |
| 13:25.51 | gileswwwrk | they must have changed the name or something |
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| 13:27.49 | blq | hi, I'm trying to get my sound working. I'm using a nforce2 board with a onboard soundstorm soundchip. I've read that I should use alsa drivers. I've installed alsa-base and alsa-utils and ran alsaconf and selected the proper sound device... some how it still doesn't seem to work :( |
| 13:29.26 | gileswwwrk | hrm maybe there isn't a xen enabled 2.6.22 kernel in debian |
| 13:29.36 | gileswwwrk | i'd be suprised if that was the case |
| 13:30.54 | vovo | cc -shared -L/usr/local/lib IdleTime.o -o blib/arch/auto/X11/IdleTime/IdleTime.so -lX11 -lXext -lXss |
| 13:30.54 | vovo | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXss |
| 13:31.09 | vovo | how to resolve this error? |
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| 13:33.22 | vovo | can't I install perl modules using aptitude. |
| 13:33.31 | vovo | there are so many dependencies that it is difficult to resolve them manually |
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| 13:39.40 | bolt | Are there any free tools available that can crack the password of an M$ Word document? No, I don't think it's likely, but I thought I'd still ask... |
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| 13:40.00 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:44.02 | phaidros | hi, is there such a thing like rpm --verify in the deb world? |
| 13:44.06 | phaidros | the rpm one is nice because it checks size, MD5 sum, permissions, type, owner and group of each file of the package. |
| 13:44.12 | phaidros | I couldn't find anything as complete in the debworld. I know there is debsums, but thats just part of the game :) |
| 13:44.15 | phaidros | or what kind of tool would be preferred to do that task on a deb based machine? tripwire? |
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| 13:46.34 | cahoot | phaidros: look at 'tiger'? |
| 13:46.53 | vovo | How can I install X11/IdleTime.pm perl module in Debian? |
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| 13:49.19 | tiredbones | I recently installed lenny and change my browser to iceweasel. I then installed xfce. I'm now trying to connect my printer. When I select the model type for the HP I have, I get a message informing me to to select either HPIJS or HPLIP. When I select HPLIP an information widow pops up telling that Epiphany could not connect to the session. Why would I get a message about a browser that I'm supposedly don't use? P.S. is this the right to as |
| 13:49.19 | tiredbones | k this Q? I did try ask this Q on debian-xfce. |
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| 13:50.51 | gileswwwrk | hrm I found this |
| 13:50.53 | gileswwwrk | http://194.39.182.225/debian/linux-2.6/xen-extra/ |
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| 13:51.52 | vin` | tiredbones: try update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
| 13:51.57 | Speckal | hi all |
| 13:52.00 | phaidros | cahoot: I'll have a look thanx |
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| 13:52.42 | phaidros | vovo: there is a cpan2deb script somewhere in the net. or was it rpm2deb and then alien? have a try at google |
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| 13:55.51 | Speckal | I just switched to debian not too long ago and I really like it. My wm of choice is not gnome/metacity, however; I'm a fluxbox guy. Is there any way to get some of debian's convenience into fluxbox? eg. auto-mounting, package update checking, etc. |
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| 13:59.12 | tiredbones | vin, It was pointing to Epiphany, so I change and started to connect my printer again. Still get the same message. |
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| 14:01.00 | tiredbones | vin, do I have to completely reboot the system? |
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| 14:03.03 | phaidros | cahoot, tiger looks good, but is not at all dpkg related :/ |
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| 14:03.28 | phaidros | so one has to create an own reference database himself |
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| 14:08.07 | clamiax | I have a problems with a Netgear DG834G Wireless ADSL router. It works properly for LAN but sometimes, using WiFi, i have no access to the external network. I know other people had such latency problem with Netgear router but i don't know how to solve the problem. Does anyone have an idea? |
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| 14:09.44 | DawnLight | clamiax: contact manufacturer? |
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| 14:10.58 | Usiu | HI |
| 14:11.03 | Usiu | how to force password change |
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| 14:11.10 | clamiax | DawnLight: without try to solve the problem first? It's not the right approach, IMHO. |
| 14:11.17 | Usiu | and remind users about that password is going to expire |
| 14:11.18 | Usiu | ? |
| 14:11.35 | DawnLight | clamiax: whats the problem exactly |
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| 14:12.02 | clamiax | DawnLight: sometimes i have no internet on clients when using WiFi. |
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| 14:13.18 | DawnLight | clamiax: what do you mean sometimes? |
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| 14:14.22 | Usiu | Any help? |
| 14:14.29 | clamiax | DawnLight: i thougth it only mean a thing. I mean, sometimes it works, sometimes not. How can i say it in another way? |
| 14:15.04 | DawnLight | Usiu: never dugg into that but i'd first try man passwd |
| 14:15.10 | DawnLight | Usiu: and the debian reference |
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| 14:15.31 | azeem | it's a pam thing I thought |
| 14:15.38 | clamiax | Usiu: chage(1) |
| 14:15.45 | Usiu | clamiax, ? |
| 14:15.53 | clamiax | Usiu: man 1 chage |
| 14:16.10 | DawnLight | thats the one |
| 14:16.18 | DawnLight | good to know |
| 14:16.41 | Usiu | clamiax, can I set it global for new users ? |
| 14:16.48 | rubymonk | Sorry, back for the third day on this crappy and stupid packages caching issue.... This is killing my nerves... http://www.pastebin.ca/775116 |
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| 14:17.22 | clamiax | Usiu: sure, use a for loop :) |
| 14:17.23 | DawnLight | clamiax: when they don't have internet, does it happen to all of them? |
| 14:17.33 | rubymonk | worked the day before yesterday, yesterday stopped to work, lost 4 hours on it... worked again, dono why, now back not working... |
| 14:17.58 | Usiu | clamiax, ok I dont want to inactive root password but I want to remaind user that it should be changed :D |
| 14:18.02 | rubymonk | I have that issue with both apt-proxy and approx... |
| 14:18.24 | clamiax | DawnLight: no, just to that one i didn't used for a bit |
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| 14:18.57 | DawnLight | clamiax: what do you mean didn't used for a bit? |
| 14:19.20 | bahadunn | rubymonk: why you caching? |
| 14:19.31 | rubymonk | bahadunn, Because I need it |
| 14:19.36 | lbt | rubymonk: can you purge those files from the cache? and have you tried apt-cacher? |
| 14:19.43 | clamiax | DawnLight: inactive clients, that are not used for some time. |
| 14:19.45 | bahadunn | rubymonk: excuse me |
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| 14:19.56 | rubymonk | lbt, apt-cacher requires an httpd... |
| 14:20.03 | rubymonk | bahadunn, Sorry for beeing rude, just tired |
| 14:20.08 | timri | rubymonk: had a similar pb with apt-cacher, turned out to be some stale proxy cruft at the ISP level ! |
| 14:20.11 | rubymonk | I need to do multiple installs |
| 14:20.15 | clamiax | DawnLight: technically the clients where there was not any trasmission. |
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| 14:20.27 | rubymonk | timri, I am the ISP in this case |
| 14:20.31 | lbt | rubymonk: OK (I thought the new one was builtin) |
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| 14:21.09 | DawnLight | clamiax: when it happens, can you reach the router from the client? |
| 14:21.11 | rubymonk | I might end up running an http daemon to run apt-cacher if this story continues |
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| 14:21.48 | clamiax | DawnLight: sure, i'm able to reach all clients and router. Just i don't have the internet connection. |
| 14:21.50 | lbt | rubymonk: yup. Mine is running like this: /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/apt-cacher -R 3 -d -p /var/run/apt-cacher.pid daemon_port=3142 limit=30 |
| 14:22.03 | lbt | builtin http |
| 14:22.04 | lbt | d |
| 14:22.11 | rubymonk | lbt, without running an other httpd ? |
| 14:22.15 | rubymonk | hum... |
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| 14:22.37 | DawnLight | clamiax: while with other clients you can? |
| 14:22.42 | rubymonk | ok, removing those pains in the butt that apt-proxy and approx are... |
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| 14:22.47 | rubymonk | and trying apt-cacher |
| 14:22.52 | lbt | rubymonk: yes |
| 14:22.55 | clamiax | DawnLight: yes |
| 14:23.33 | lbt | rubymonk: I'm using 1.5.3 |
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| 14:23.50 | rubymonk | ok |
| 14:23.59 | rubymonk | I'll see what version lenny has |
| 14:24.15 | DawnLight | clamiax: check the manufacturer's website for this problem |
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| 14:24.37 | clamiax | DawnLight: ok, thx |
| 14:25.25 | timri | rubymonk: One problem with apt-cacher, it does not like Acquire::http::Proxy in apt.conf (at the client pc's) |
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| 14:26.02 | lbt | timri: rubymonk: does too :) |
| 14:26.17 | lbt | new version fixes a lot of those probs |
| 14:26.21 | tdwk | hi everyone. i'm trying to use terminal to list all files on a hard drive which contain string X and are in a folder which doesn't contain string Y. Is bash alone capable of this or do i need to get a terminal ap? Thanks |
| 14:26.31 | timri | lbt: It should, and there was a fix, but it still seems a bit finicky here |
| 14:26.32 | lbt | especially the cache holding the 'combined' header+deb |
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| 14:27.05 | lbt | timri: I've been using it for months without issue. I suppose YMMV :) |
| 14:27.19 | lbt | what's the problem? |
| 14:27.25 | timri | lbt: At least on one occasion I saw the dreaded "cannot connect to server http" |
| 14:27.38 | lbt | at the client? |
| 14:28.07 | timri | lbt: Strangely, yes. I workaround this in sources.lst (also at the client), so it each entry looks lik " deb http://updateserver:3142/" |
| 14:28.13 | lbt | it does have a max_connections... |
| 14:29.06 | lbt | timri: that was the thing I was most grateful for - being able to see the *real* url the clients were getting |
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| 14:29.39 | lbt | Well, FWIW, I use Acquire::http::Proxy "http://aptcache.mydomain.com:3142"; |
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| 14:30.47 | timri | lbt: Mmm, will try it again tomorrow (presently at a box running the "other" debian *cough*) |
| 14:31.03 | k31th | are there any debian certs? or shall i just do my LPI? |
| 14:31.25 | timri | lbt: :) |
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| 14:32.05 | XoX | does debian have scripts for configuring bonding ? |
| 14:33.43 | xoz_ | what is bonding? |
| 14:35.16 | cahoot | bridging? |
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| 14:38.05 | abrotman | !channel bonding |
| 14:38.08 | abrotman | bah ... |
| 14:38.17 | abrotman | !bonding |
| 14:38.17 | dpkg | i guess bonding is making two nics have the same ip address which increases throughput and provides failover. for instructions on setting it up, read Documentation/networking/bonding.txt in the linux kernel source |
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| 14:41.09 | flart | hi |
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| 14:42.48 | flart | i just created a full debian mirror with reprepro, but 'reprepro dumpunreferenced' dumps _all_ files it just downloaded. this shouldn't be if everything went the right way, am i right? |
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| 14:43.55 | bahadunn | flart: why not use the standard debian mirroring way? |
| 14:44.11 | flart | i want to add some custom packages later |
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| 14:48.12 | flart | and checkpool reports no errors |
| 14:48.25 | flart | its kinda strange to me |
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| 14:49.44 | avtobiff | what is the business with untrusted packages. aptitude complains about this when i try to install gimp on lenny. are the packages not signed? |
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| 14:50.29 | Kanniball | hi! |
| 14:50.32 | zero-1 | hi |
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| 14:51.15 | Kanniball | there is any mini-debian tgz to uncompress and use in chroot for installing debian? aka install from other distro |
| 14:51.23 | zero-1 | does anyone here has experience with postfix ? i having a hard time figuring out why my debian postfix server stopped working all of a sudden |
| 14:51.48 | flart | Kanniball: you can your debootstrap if you have internet-connection |
| 14:52.08 | Kanniball | flart: yes I have... |
| 14:52.17 | flart | there you go |
| 14:52.35 | Kanniball | but i'm on fedora , so I cannot apt-get... |
| 14:52.54 | abrotman | zero-1: did you check the logs? |
| 14:53.28 | abrotman | !tell Kanniball about debootstrap |
| 14:53.36 | abrotman | Kanniball: it has a source package you can compile |
| 14:53.38 | timri | avtobiff: I don't know why, but for me aptitude update always solves that problem |
| 14:54.06 | Kanniball | abrotman: thanks... all I've seen has been an .deb |
| 14:54.09 | zero-1 | I did the only thing I was able to find is that postfix is unable to connect to mysql due the fact that it can pull the host from the config files, however I have checked all of them and the host is there as a matter of fact it is able to read the database from them |
| 14:54.28 | abrotman | and it did work and now stopped? |
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| 14:56.35 | Speckal | I just switched to debian not too long ago and I really like it. My wm of choice is not gnome/metacity, however; I'm a fluxbox guy. Is there any way to get some of debian's convenience into fluxbox? eg. auto-mounting, package update checking, etc. |
| 14:56.36 | zero-1 | tell me if you want me to message you the log where I got that info from |
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| 14:56.56 | zero-1 | yeah it was working fine and it stopped by itself |
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| 14:57.24 | zero-1 | services such as imap through courier work fine is just smtp that can no use mysql to authenticate anymore |
| 14:57.43 | abrotman | !paste |
| 14:57.43 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 14:58.22 | zero-1 | Nov 15 06:55:31 mail-db413228 postfix/smtpd[11210]: sql plugin trying to open db 'maildb' on host '' |
| 14:58.22 | zero-1 | Nov 15 06:55:31 mail-db413228 postfix/smtpd[11210]: sql plugin could not connect to host |
| 14:58.22 | zero-1 | Nov 15 06:55:31 mail-db413228 postfix/smtpd[11210]: sql plugin couldn't connect to any host |
| 14:58.46 | phaidros | host seems empty |
| 14:58.47 | abrotman | that was kind of like a pastebin |
| 14:58.55 | zero-1 | like I said, it is able to read the database name from the configs but not the host |
| 14:59.10 | abrotman | is the DB on localhost? |
| 14:59.14 | zero-1 | no |
| 14:59.20 | abrotman | then it really should be named ..,. |
| 14:59.26 | zero-1 | it does |
| 14:59.32 | zero-1 | in the config does |
| 14:59.40 | zero-1 | but postfix is not reading it |
| 15:00.06 | phaidros | where is the hostname in your postfix cionfigs? |
| 15:00.27 | zero-1 | cat /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf |
| 15:00.47 | zero-1 | sql_hostname: xxxxxxxx |
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| 15:00.59 | phaidros | sql_hostnames: 127.0.0.1 |
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| 15:01.08 | phaidros | try to add an 's' |
| 15:01.11 | zero-1 | I tried both |
| 15:01.17 | zero-1 | with and without the s |
| 15:01.19 | phaidros | well, works for me :/ |
| 15:01.20 | zero-1 | neither one works |
| 15:02.15 | zero-1 | changing it again one sec ... |
| 15:02.39 | timri | zero-1: Bitten by this one? http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist%40lists.debian.org/msg380508.html |
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| 15:03.42 | zero-1 | Ill take a look at it thanks for your time |
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| 15:05.29 | johmathe | Hi guys |
| 15:07.09 | johmathe | I'm trying to make self-extractables archives |
| 15:07.23 | johmathe | but under linux for windows |
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| 15:07.47 | johmathe | is there any software to do that ? |
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| 15:08.22 | BotaniCar | not that i know of, specialy for .msi packages :( |
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| 15:11.08 | mignish | Has anyone been having problems with System > Sessions not saving? |
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| 15:11.44 | johmathe | s |
| 15:11.53 | rmaj | what are good "think more and click/type less" games for linux? i.e. some strategy, or adventure; Where I dont have to use mouse etc but think a lot (ie for lying in bed) |
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| 15:13.22 | mignish | That's a tough one rmaj... I think you don't have to use the keyboard in Wesnoth. |
| 15:13.33 | mignish | Not sure though, I've always used the mouse |
| 15:14.16 | rmaj | lincity-ng would be alos ok but tons of clikcing |
| 15:14.59 | mignish | Never heard of that one. |
| 15:15.36 | mignish | Holly crap, I'm installing it! I just saw the wiki. |
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| 15:17.01 | mignish | Is lincity-x a newer version of lincity-ng? |
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| 15:17.47 | \amethyst | mignish: other way around |
| 15:18.16 | rmaj | mignish: lincity-ng is the new one |
| 15:18.33 | rmaj | mignish: music and graphics are a bit boring, but game is quite ok |
| 15:18.41 | mignish | Cool, thanks. |
| 15:18.46 | rmaj | although they should add more elements and goals to make it less boring near the end |
| 15:20.08 | mignish | I grew up playing the first sim cities... this looks sort of like simcity 2000 |
| 15:20.12 | mignish | i like that |
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| 15:22.34 | mignish | restarting x cya later |
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| 15:22.51 | WorkRoey | hi |
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| 15:22.55 | WorkRoey | does Debian include chkconfig? |
| 15:23.08 | WorkRoey | what'st he standard command to list bootup services... insserv? |
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| 15:24.14 | stew | !red hat tools |
| 15:24.14 | dpkg | If you're a (former) Red Hat tool looking for Red Hat Tools on debian, you won't find many. But: chkconfig={sysvconfig,sysv-rc-conf,rcconf,update-rc.d}; service=invoke-rc.d; kudzu=discover; etc |
| 15:24.52 | WorkRoey | hey stew |
| 15:24.56 | WorkRoey | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:31.04 | SpeedyG | hi, every time I try to install my video drivers for lenny, I get the following warning: The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used! |
| 15:31.09 | SpeedyG | what can I do to stop that ? |
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| 15:31.38 | abrotman | are you using the installer from the nvidia website? |
| 15:31.41 | WorkRoey | stew: man, this sysvconfig tool is so not user-friendly (you can't pgup and pgdown to scroll throug the entries) |
| 15:31.49 | WorkRoey | I hold you responsible :P |
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| 15:32.05 | WorkRoey | (but really, I think there should be some command-line script, yes? rcconf is it?) |
| 15:32.23 | SpeedyG | abrotman: using aptitude |
| 15:32.30 | SpeedyG | m-a a-i -i -t -f nvidia-kernel |
| 15:32.32 | SpeedyG | euh |
| 15:32.34 | SpeedyG | wrong windows |
| 15:32.38 | stew | WorkRoey: if all you want to do is check / uncheck services, rcconf is a simple ncurses based one. if you want something very similar to checkconfig where you have more granular control in a cli, use update-rc.d |
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| 15:33.23 | WorkRoey | stew: ah ok, so update-rc.d it is |
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| 15:33.42 | WorkRoey | stew: (I jsut wanted a command that lets me disable a service (or services) on a range of runlevels) |
| 15:33.46 | WorkRoey | s/jsut/just |
| 15:34.09 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 15:34.12 | WorkRoey | ok |
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| 15:35.55 | Jyzygzy- | is there a turorial how to set up the Debian mail system |
| 15:36.00 | Jyzygzy- | from start to end |
| 15:36.24 | WorkRoey | abrotman: hey there :) |
| 15:36.41 | abrotman | hi |
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| 15:36.53 | abrotman | Jyzygzy-: read the documentation the packages provide |
| 15:37.06 | Jyzygzy- | that dos nt hlp |
| 15:37.23 | Jyzygzy- | tutorial ndd |
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| 15:37.27 | Jyzygzy- | so i know how thy work togthr |
| 15:37.34 | rmaj | are there some cool adventure games for debian? |
| 15:37.42 | cahoot | chess |
| 15:37.43 | phaidros | rmaj: wesnoth |
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| 15:37.54 | phaidros | lol @ cahoot |
| 15:37.57 | rmaj | phaidros: thats actually strategical game :) ? |
| 15:38.08 | phaidros | rmaj: but an adventure to play :D |
| 15:38.19 | rmaj | I ment like... say Moneky Islands (arrrr!) |
| 15:38.22 | asg | rmaj: there's always nethack |
| 15:38.29 | phaidros | yepp |
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| 15:38.45 | rmaj | asg: thats crawling game and Im already lvl 25 mummy |
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| 15:39.01 | rmaj | noone here plays _adventure_ games? :P |
| 15:39.12 | asg | rmaj: iirc, there are emulators for running old sierra and similar games though the rom images / software are not legally available. |
| 15:39.20 | rmaj | hmm |
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| 15:41.42 | timri | rmaj: Does colossal cave adventure count? |
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| 15:42.06 | amphi | rmaj: there's a z-machine interpreter for infocom-style text games, if that's what you mean ;) |
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| 15:43.06 | hipodilski | where can I get a source of my currently installed php4 for debian |
| 15:43.13 | hipodilski | ? |
| 15:44.23 | timri | hipodilski: This helps? http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html |
| 15:44.37 | stew | hipodilski: "apt-get source php4" |
| 15:44.41 | capiira | anybody know what happened to the leave a message button in gnome-screensaver 2.20 sid ? |
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| 15:45.31 | psycodad_ | hi, i have stranded in dependency hell while upgrading a sarge to etch... is there any failsafe way to escape that or a howto ? I am currently unable to install/purge/remove any packets due to endless dependency probs |
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| 15:45.50 | azeem | psycodad_: pastebin the output |
| 15:45.52 | azeem | !pastebin |
| 15:45.52 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
| 15:46.08 | stew | psycodad_: "/msg dpkg sarge->etch" is the howto |
| 15:46.16 | basix | hello fellow debianers :P i'm currently downloading Etch 4.0r1. Umm...i'm not new to Linux but I'm new to the terminology that debian uses. My questions are: 1) Does the 4.0r1 DVDs have all the security updates already included or do I have to download the 4.0r1 updates DVD and install stuff from it? 2) How long is this distribution going to be supported? in general, how long are Debian releases supported? 3) I intend to run this release on a machine with |
| 15:46.17 | basix | Intel DG965RY motherboard and a Core 2 Duo processor. I had faced some problems initially with kernels older than 2.6.21 as certain IDE drivers were not present. It seems to be fixed in 2.6.22 or later. What version of the kernel does Debian 4.0r1 have? Will it have any issues with my hardware? |
| 15:46.48 | psycodad_ | thx stew, i was following that, worked fine for bunch of boxes but this time not... |
| 15:47.03 | stew | psycodad_: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 15:47.37 | stew | basix: teh 4.0r1 dvds contain the fixes that were current at the time that r1 was released. the updates cd contains the the packages that were updated between r0 and r1. |
| 15:47.51 | psycodad_ | stew, azeem: thx, ill paste the output of 'aptitude install -f' if thats ok ? |
| 15:48.02 | stew | psycodad_: yeah, thats a good start |
| 15:48.09 | stew | basix: there have been more updates since r1, you can get them via "aptitude upgrade" |
| 15:48.52 | stew | basix: debian supports a release until 1 years after the *next* release is released. so since etch was released in april, sarge, which was released in 2005 is going to be supported until april 2008 |
| 15:49.03 | basix | stew, i read the news. r1 was released because there were certain critical issues in r0. the r1 updates dvd contains all the updates that were released to fix the issues in r1. am i right? |
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| 15:50.14 | abrotman | basix: r1 has the same kernel |
| 15:50.16 | stew | basix: yes, and there have bee more critical issues in r1 since it was released, which are not contained in r1, but will be contained in r2, but you could get now no matter which version (r0 or r1) you started with |
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| 15:50.32 | basix | stew, umm...so basically my currently release is surely going to be supported for ~2-3 years. right? |
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| 15:50.58 | mmlj4 | ok, this is starting to tick me off... if I turn off cyris imap in postfix's files, mail works as expected, to the unix mailboxes. However, if I enable imap, I can send mail from the shell and mail gets delivered to the imap mailboxes, but I cannot send mail to the box from another host without getting the error "Mailbox does not exist". Ideas? |
| 15:51.04 | basix | stew, how do i update my system using the update dvd, after i install r1? |
| 15:51.29 | abrotman | apt-cdrom |
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| 15:51.42 | basix | abrotman, thanks... |
| 15:52.05 | stew | basix: the current wild ass guess about a timeframe for lenny to be released is ~1 year from now. so that says that etch would be supported for 2 more years, but debian usually misses its release goals by a pretty wide margin so it could be 3 |
| 15:52.06 | basix | what about my hardware? any issues? with Fedora I have issues with the display driver... Xorg |
| 15:52.20 | stew | basix: are you installing to a system that will not be on the internet? |
| 15:52.48 | stew | basix: which video card / display driver/ |
| 15:53.01 | basix | stew, internet, yes. but it can't pull too many updates too quickly... definitely not pull 1.3 GBs of updates |
| 15:53.25 | basix | stew, its the onboard one that comes the DG965RY motherboard |
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| 15:53.44 | psycodad_ | stew, azeem: |
| 15:53.45 | psycodad_ | stew, azeem: Reading Package Lists... 0% |
| 15:53.45 | psycodad_ | Reading Package Lists... 100% |
| 15:53.45 | psycodad_ | Reading Package Lists... Done |
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| 15:53.48 | stew | basix: you would not need to pull 1.3 gb of updates. you only need to get updated packages for those which have had updates. http://debian.org/security will enumeerate the packages which have had updates |
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| 15:54.12 | ericP | if i plug my mp3 player into my USB, i see stuff about choosing a conf, using SCSI emulaton, and scanning a device |
| 15:54.14 | stew | !tell psycodad_ about paste |
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| 15:54.15 | psycodad_ | sorry to all, |
| 15:54.18 | biopyte | hi. /etc/fstab includes this line: //134.174.164.203/LoryLab /mnt/134.174.164.203 smbfs noauto,noexec,users,username=weber 0 0 |
| 15:54.18 | azeem | psycodad_: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 15:54.29 | ericP | if i do the same with my camera, it staops at choosing a conf |
| 15:54.33 | bahadunn | anyone know of a way to get a new ip via dhcp? |
| 15:54.43 | biopyte | excuse me. |
| 15:54.44 | psycodad_ | sorry! i had the wrong buffer, i was about pasting this: http://pastebin.ca/775358 |
| 15:54.44 | extor | Where can I get more free themes for gnome, preferably in nice deb packages |
| 15:55.05 | psycodad_ | again, apologies to all, seems not to be my day |
| 15:55.20 | bahadunn | I have had the same one for a while now from my ISP and they are blocking incoming mail from their network only for some reason |
| 15:55.34 | bahadunn | I wonder if changing my ip would "fix" it |
| 15:55.40 | stew | ericP: likely your camera doesn't support usb mass storage and you'll have to talk to it via libgphoto2 with gtkam or kamera or something. what make? a canon? |
| 15:55.55 | basix | stew, hmm...okay |
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| 15:56.10 | ericP | stew, fuji finepix -- older versions worked well |
| 15:56.12 | basix | isn't anybody using the DG965 motherboard? come on people.. |
| 15:57.20 | basix | oh yes, one more question. i need to install cobbler daemon and puppet. is it possible to run cobbler on debian? |
| 15:57.29 | psycodad_ | azeem: lukcy i got kicked, the clipboard was roughly 30K.... and it turns out my mouse batteries are dead and the 'copy link location' didn't actually copy it... so i still had in cp what i pasted to pastebin before... |
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| 15:59.12 | mignish | Could someone tell me which file I need to edit to get an application to run on startup? |
| 15:59.34 | mignish | Google is not yielding fruitful results. |
| 16:00.00 | abrotman | !run at startup |
| 16:00.00 | dpkg | Make a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ then install it with update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README, or as a user you can also use a cron entry with @reboot |
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| 16:00.31 | mignish | Damn, thank you abrotman I was looking all day yesterday. |
| 16:02.59 | Nyle | wols_: ganja economics? |
| 16:03.43 | psycodad_ | does anybody have an idea how the following error on aptitude can be resolved: "Error: contents of '/etc/mailcap.new' do not match what was written -- abort" |
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| 16:05.23 | Nyle | wols_: interesting article |
| 16:05.25 | Nyle | thanks |
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| 16:07.43 | bahadunn | abrotman: hey how about helping me man |
| 16:07.49 | bahadunn | abrotman: you are helping everyone else |
| 16:07.54 | bahadunn | abrotman: whats up with that? |
| 16:08.05 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 16:08.15 | bahadunn | abrotman: nothing just messing with you |
| 16:08.16 | bahadunn | :) |
| 16:08.34 | Nyle | bahadunn: port 25? |
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| 16:09.38 | Nyle | bahadunn: if isp blocks ports by default, like 25 for mail, then you can't do anything about it |
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| 16:09.58 | Nyle | mostly they do to prevent unwanted massmailing worm traffic clogging it up |
| 16:10.00 | bahadunn | Nyle: they do block port 25 outgoing |
| 16:10.03 | bahadunn | Nyle: not incoming |
| 16:10.18 | bahadunn | Nyle: and yes there is something I can do about it seeing a I work closely with the ISP |
| 16:10.28 | bahadunn | Nyle: they are just not responding as fast as I would like |
| 16:10.47 | Nyle | you seriously going to sit there and tell me you have the power to modify an ISP security policies? |
| 16:10.47 | bahadunn | Nyle: and yes I know what youare saying but thats outgoing 25 they block not incoming |
| 16:10.54 | bahadunn | Nyle: yep |
| 16:10.57 | Nyle | why am I bothering to help you |
| 16:11.00 | Nyle | you can fix your own problems. |
| 16:11.07 | bahadunn | Nyle: because their policy is not to block incoming |
| 16:11.23 | bahadunn | Nyle: I want to refresh my ip over dhcp and see if that fixes it |
| 16:11.24 | abrotman | bahadunn: what do you need help with? |
| 16:11.26 | bahadunn | Nyle: whats wrong with that |
| 16:11.30 | Nyle | ok so do it |
| 16:11.37 | Nyle | are you behind a router? |
| 16:11.40 | bahadunn | abrotman: I want to refresh my ip over dhcp and see if that fixes my problem |
| 16:11.43 | timri | bahadunn: rm /var/lib/dhcp3/*.leases |
| 16:11.45 | bahadunn | Nyle: I am behind a debian router |
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| 16:12.20 | timri | bahadunn: then ifup/down |
| 16:12.20 | bahadunn | timri: then restart network? |
| 16:12.20 | timri | :) yes |
| 16:12.20 | Nyle | bahadunn: if you dhcp is on, take the network card down,and bring it up again |
| 16:12.20 | abrotman | bahadunn: restart your networking on the router .. but usually you'll get the same IP |
| 16:12.20 | bahadunn | timri: sounds like a plan |
| 16:12.20 | Nyle | or use /etc/init.d/networking |
| 16:12.20 | bahadunn | abrotman: yes that is the problem |
| 16:12.23 | bahadunn | I get the same ip |
| 16:12.26 | bahadunn | I want different |
| 16:12.39 | Nyle | bahadunn: you will have to keep your cable modem or whateve off for a day or two |
| 16:12.46 | timri | Nyle: :) |
| 16:12.46 | Nyle | else you will get the same ip |
| 16:12.56 | Nyle | and even then it isn't gauranteed, but usually isp leases are 48 hours |
| 16:13.03 | psycodad_ | azeem: sorry for bugging but could you take a look at the pastebin ? |
| 16:13.19 | Nyle | timri: hi |
| 16:13.25 | bahadunn | Nyle: dont want to do that |
| 16:13.34 | bahadunn | Nyle: maybe there is no other way |
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| 16:13.37 | Nyle | bahadunn: I don't know of anything else that will help you |
| 16:13.42 | bahadunn | Nyle: maybe I must wait for ISP admin to help me |
| 16:13.42 | timri | bahadunn: Log in to your router , remove the leases files, restart network, done |
| 16:13.50 | bahadunn | timri: doing it now |
| 16:13.51 | Nyle | bahadunn: maybe |
| 16:14.04 | Nyle | my stomache hurts |
| 16:14.05 | Nyle | ow |
| 16:14.41 | timri | bahadunn: You might need to try more than once. My isp likes to pass out IPs partially based on mac addresses :( |
| 16:16.39 | bahadunn | got the same ip again |
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| 16:16.51 | timri | bahadunn: You might need to try more than once. My isp likes to pass out IPs partially based on mac addresses :( |
| 16:17.30 | mogra | timri, bahadunn: Those that pass out IPs based on MAC addresses take between 8 and 24 hours of IDLE to flush a MAC from their router, and even then, if it's JUNIPER, it might just get stuck. |
| 16:17.31 | bahadunn | yeah I saw that |
| 16:17.40 | bahadunn | timri: tried like 6 or 7 times now |
| 16:17.42 | bahadunn | still same |
| 16:17.56 | bahadunn | maybe I will write a script to do it over and over until it changes |
| 16:17.58 | azeem | psycodad_: looks like your ldconfig database is corrupt or gone missing |
| 16:18.11 | bahadunn | it is juniper |
| 16:18.15 | mogra | Meaning nothing, not even the DSL/Cable Modem plugged into it |
| 16:18.22 | timri | mogra: ouch! |
| 16:18.29 | mogra | then bahadunn, it's best you call the ISP. |
| 16:18.32 | azeem | psycodad_: what does "file /etc/ld.so.cache" say? |
| 16:18.47 | Nyle | juniper |
| 16:18.55 | bahadunn | mogra: I can go downstairs and check but I have seen juinper stuff |
| 16:18.56 | psycodad_ | azeem: i just found that / partition is getting full..etch pulled in 3 different kernels which used the 300MBs I have, can this have something to do with each other? |
| 16:18.57 | timri | bahadunn: By the way: you DID remove the leases files each time ? from your router that is ? |
| 16:19.06 | azeem | psycodad_: probably as well |
| 16:19.08 | bahadunn | mogra: I think most of the cable modem network is on cisco though |
| 16:19.11 | psycodad_ | azeem: /etc/ld.so.cache: data |
| 16:19.15 | bahadunn | timri: yes of course |
| 16:19.18 | mogra | bahadunn: the Juniper router would be on the ISP side. |
| 16:19.20 | abrotman | bahadunn: i'm not sure why you think a different IP would make a difference |
| 16:19.24 | Nyle | what is this ld.so? |
| 16:19.26 | azeem | psycodad_: ok, no idea then; try to figure out why ldconfig fails |
| 16:19.41 | Nyle | ld this, ld that |
| 16:19.41 | bahadunn | mogra: they have cisco units for the cable modem network though |
| 16:19.54 | bahadunn | mogra: I think the cisco handles dhcp for the cable modem network |
| 16:20.07 | psycodad_ | azeem: ok, thx so far, i'll try to free some space and hopefully that will get me back in the race |
| 16:20.09 | bahadunn | mogra: they junipers are between the carriers and the ISP |
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| 16:21.04 | mogra | bahadunn: ok, still. Modem unplugged from the network for at least 8 hours usually. :\ |
| 16:21.16 | bahadunn | mogra: yes I know |
| 16:21.32 | mogra | :) good |
| 16:21.38 | bahadunn | maybe I can get one of the techs to give me a release so I can try a different ip |
| 16:21.49 | bahadunn | the guy who runs the entire network wont be able to help me till 3pm |
| 16:21.53 | bahadunn | I guess I could wait |
| 16:21.53 | mogra | That used to be one of my tasks... |
| 16:22.06 | abrotman | 8 hours is a damn long time .. but whatever |
| 16:22.19 | bahadunn | yeah dont want to be down for 8 hours really |
| 16:22.23 | mogra | American ISPs are damn slow *shrugs* |
| 16:22.32 | bahadunn | not in america |
| 16:22.46 | bahadunn | but in my country things are way more slow then america |
| 16:22.51 | mogra | xD |
| 16:22.53 | bahadunn | so its sucker here if you want something done |
| 16:23.07 | bahadunn | everyone is on the beach drinking strawberry daqs |
| 16:23.18 | mogra | get me one while you are up. |
| 16:23.21 | bahadunn | except me that is |
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| 16:23.38 | bahadunn | mogra: they bring them to you man |
| 16:23.44 | bahadunn | mogra: who is going to get up? |
| 16:23.59 | mogra | I'm not there :( |
| 16:24.03 | bahadunn | mogra: it is a service industry you know |
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| 16:24.16 | bahadunn | they got guys walking up and down the beach for that kind of thing |
| 16:24.18 | dutchfish | some isp dhcp with semi-fixed ip reservations can be tricked to release the mac based ip, by giving your router a dif mac and the same fixed ip you dont want anymore, that way they will release, next is to reconfigure your router with dhcp again and origanal mac adress, this works in my situation |
| 16:25.08 | abrotman | or if you change the MAC .. you won't get online at all :) |
| 16:25.13 | bahadunn | dutchfish: hey that is a good idea |
| 16:25.27 | bahadunn | dutchfish: yes that is true |
| 16:25.31 | dutchfish | abrotman, of coarse but they still release it ;) |
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| 16:25.36 | bahadunn | maybe I will try that when I am home for lunch |
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| 16:26.48 | bahadunn | maybe there is some tool I can use to broadcase some other mac to my modem |
| 16:26.50 | bahadunn | like with arps |
| 16:26.53 | Nyle | why do you want to change your ip so bad |
| 16:26.58 | mogra | some also have a release command in the router/modem reset cycle. Like, hold down the reset button, while holding it down turn the power off to the modem, hold it down for a minute longer, still holding it down restore power, hold it down another minute... geez, Westell is just plain nuts... |
| 16:27.02 | Nyle | what did you do? |
| 16:27.11 | bahadunn | Nyle: my mail is blocked and I think it is just my ip or maybe my range |
| 16:27.13 | Nyle | something illegal? |
| 16:27.15 | Nyle | oh |
| 16:27.24 | Nyle | I thought it might be something fun ;) |
| 16:27.25 | bahadunn | Nyle: I wanted to see if changing it makes mail work again |
| 16:27.34 | bahadunn | nope just want mail |
| 16:27.51 | bahadunn | like I said I get mail from everywhere else in the world except people on the cable modem network |
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| 16:28.16 | bahadunn | what happens is my father for example tries to send me a mail and it goes through the ISP mail system but they their mail system cannot connect to my server at home |
| 16:28.30 | bahadunn | it worked fine up until a few weeks ago |
| 16:28.46 | bahadunn | my ISP is notorious for weird ACLs that cause problems from time to time though |
| 16:28.57 | mogra | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.03 | bahadunn | so its probably someone put in some ACL they did not understand fully and it is causing this side effect |
| 16:29.27 | Nyle | my isp's dns servers dont' work half the time |
| 16:29.32 | Spida | . |
| 16:29.33 | bahadunn | hehe |
| 16:29.36 | Nyle | sometimes debian.org doesn't resolve for me |
| 16:29.37 | bahadunn | thats why I use my own |
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| 16:29.58 | bahadunn | its amazing the speed up you can get putting a dns server on your local network |
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| 16:30.08 | Nyle | which one do you use? |
| 16:30.08 | bahadunn | once the caching comes into play that is |
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| 16:30.10 | Nyle | djb? bind? |
| 16:30.13 | bahadunn | bind |
| 16:30.27 | Nyle | word |
| 16:30.37 | bahadunn | just for internal though |
| 16:30.44 | bahadunn | its blocked from the outside |
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| 16:30.49 | Nyle | of course |
| 16:31.14 | Nyle | i have laptop.letme.getmyip.com/desktop.....router etc..etc. |
| 16:31.23 | bahadunn | I have a mini-itx system with 3 Gbit nics and 1 10/100 running debian as my router/firewall system |
| 16:31.30 | Nyle | you all see the same ip, but once it gets here it does to a specific machien |
| 16:31.34 | Nyle | I love technology |
| 16:31.39 | bahadunn | the entire box uses about 50-60 W of power |
| 16:31.39 | Nyle | I wish I could wed it |
| 16:32.05 | mogra | Nyle, so it's opendns that doesn't resolve deb.org for you? |
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| 16:32.33 | Nyle | mogra: I could tell you, but I want to have fun. Go figure it outself :) |
| 16:32.47 | Nyle | yourself* |
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| 16:33.16 | Nyle | and I have Verizon dsl in nyc |
| 16:33.24 | Nyle | you'd think it would be reliable, but no |
| 16:33.44 | bahadunn | I need to drink some aloe |
| 16:34.00 | Nyle | I need to do some potting |
| 16:34.03 | mogra | VZN's DNS are 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2, they don't use opendns. |
| 16:34.13 | Nyle | mogra: I know, but I do |
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| 16:34.49 | sobersabre | hi |
| 16:35.15 | sobersabre | I am trying to understand: when I run netstat -ap, I see many lines of output, which are of the type: |
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| 16:35.47 | sobersabre | tcp 0 0 host1:35234 host2:sunrpc TIME_WAIT - |
| 16:35.52 | sobersabre | MANY! |
| 16:36.00 | sobersabre | 141 |
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| 16:36.18 | sobersabre | I understand these are mount point NFS related time waits |
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| 16:36.24 | sobersabre | is there a way to kill them ? |
| 16:36.34 | doogers | Hi! |
| 16:36.45 | sobersabre | I want to remount and I get that annoying: |
| 16:36.46 | sobersabre | nfs bindresvport: Address already in use |
| 16:36.49 | doogers | Is there the deb package of Gnome Online Desktop? |
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| 16:39.39 | doogers | Is there the deb package of Gnome Online Desktop? |
| 16:40.11 | azeem | doogers: nope, don't think so |
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| 16:40.39 | mogra | !repeat |
| 16:40.39 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 16:40.59 | mcgreg | hi |
| 16:41.07 | mogra | lo |
| 16:41.16 | sobersabre | fi |
| 16:41.20 | SpeedyG | when using both sid and lenny repos, is it possible to install a 2.6.18 nvidia-kernel-source against the 2.6.22 kernel from lenny? |
| 16:41.21 | mcgreg | could anybody pls tell me what the current version of xorg is in "testing"? |
| 16:41.22 | dutchfish | ping |
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| 16:41.37 | SpeedyG | or should I downgrade to 2.6.18 ? |
| 16:41.41 | rocketmagnet | hi, can someone please tell me how to format an usb disc ? |
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| 16:41.47 | Ramattack | Hi |
| 16:41.54 | rocketmagnet | because i get only 1,5 mb for a 512mb stick |
| 16:42.02 | Ramattack | how could I gmt in debian? |
| 16:42.12 | Ramattack | the local time and meridian and things like that |
| 16:42.29 | mcgreg | rocketmagnet: I guess somehting like mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1 or sim iliar |
| 16:42.37 | Speckal | I just switched to debian not too long ago and I really like it. My wm of choice is not gnome/metacity, however; I'm a fluxbox guy. Is there any way to get some of debian's convenience into fluxbox? eg. auto-mounting, package update checking, etc. |
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| 16:43.42 | Usiu | how to set fonts in terminal |
| 16:43.50 | Usiu | because all what I see is ????? |
| 16:43.53 | Usiu | instead of characters |
| 16:43.54 | azeem | so, I create a harddisk-image with qemu-img, loop-mount it and run fdisk on the /dev/loop; Now when I loop-mount the partition inside (offsetting the mbr), and run mke2fs on it, the file-system is too big for the partition |
| 16:43.55 | Usiu | any help? |
| 16:43.58 | wols_ | Speckal: use the nvidia source package maybe |
| 16:44.09 | Ramattack | I'm havind time issues with debian etch |
| 16:44.10 | Speckal | huh? |
| 16:44.11 | azeem | I need to calculate the number of blocks manually |
| 16:44.19 | wols_ | Speckal: wrong guy. was for SpeedyG |
| 16:44.21 | Ramattack | debian does not preserve the time properly |
| 16:44.25 | timri | mcgreg: 7.2 http://packages.debian.org/lenny/xserver-xorg |
| 16:44.26 | Usiu | Any help ? |
| 16:44.31 | Usiu | about console characters? |
| 16:44.37 | mcgreg | timri: thx you very much |
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| 16:44.47 | wsxws | hi all |
| 16:45.10 | wols_ | Usiu: edit /etc/console-tools/config |
| 16:45.17 | wsxws | is there a tool/command on debian to check which service is on which runlevel ? |
| 16:45.19 | wols_ | possibly dpkg-reconfigure console-tools |
| 16:45.28 | wols_ | check that you have the fonts already installed |
| 16:45.38 | Usiu | wols_, which fonts? |
| 16:45.43 | wols_ | wsxws: rcconf for example |
| 16:45.46 | wols_ | Usiu: console fonts |
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| 16:46.04 | wols_ | Usiu: what's your locale set to? |
| 16:46.09 | rocketmagnet | mcgreg: when i put in the stick i get 2 things : sda and sdb (in windows i get the stick + a pseudo drive a with 1,5mb) |
| 16:46.27 | Usiu | wols_, yes I have but apache also dosnt display right iso8859-2 characters |
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| 16:46.53 | mcgreg | rocketmagnet: look like your usb stick has several partitions? |
| 16:46.53 | wols_ | Usiu: what is your locale? |
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| 16:46.58 | wsxws | wols_ is there nothing 'inbuild' in debian for that ? |
| 16:47.00 | gamag | how can I change my default browser from epiphany to iceweasel? |
| 16:47.05 | Usiu | funny console-tools wasnt installed |
| 16:47.10 | Usiu | while console-setup was |
| 16:47.16 | wols_ | wsxws: "ls" |
| 16:47.17 | icnocop | how do i change the default port (5900) for vino? |
| 16:47.33 | Usiu | wols_, polish |
| 16:47.43 | rocketmagnet | mcgreg: how to check this ? |
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| 16:47.47 | timri | rocketmagnet: That sounds like a U3 drive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3) |
| 16:47.58 | wols_ | gamag: ls /etc/alternatives/*www-browser* |
| 16:48.10 | wols_ | gamag: change it with update-alternatives |
| 16:48.15 | wsxws | wols_ u mean without tool i have to check runlevel dir after runlevel dir and add/remove symbolic links manually ? |
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| 16:48.19 | mcgreg | rocketmagnet: hmm honstely I dont know |
| 16:48.28 | wols_ | mcgreg: update-rc.d |
| 16:48.42 | wols_ | rocketmagnet: fdisk |
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| 16:48.58 | Usiu | wols_, ? |
| 16:49.00 | mcgreg | wols_: hmm? |
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| 16:49.02 | Usiu | wols_, still a problem |
| 16:49.05 | timri | rocketmagnet: If it is a U3 drive, you have to use the vendor provided app (almost always windows-only) to get rid of that launchpad partition. |
| 16:49.07 | apollo13 | hi, I have a problem with shutting down my sata disks (not synced properly). please upgrade your shutdown utility. But there is no new package available. Does someone knows of a patch which works? (I really would like to get this error away, as the disk doesn't sound well on shutdown) |
| 16:49.14 | wols_ | Usiu: polish is no locale. try again |
| 16:49.18 | wols_ | !tell Usiu about locales |
| 16:49.28 | Usiu | wolffc, pl_PL |
| 16:49.34 | Usiu | wols_, pl_PL |
| 16:49.38 | ManuP | i need to exchange 30GB of data between two pc in my network. how do i realize this? with samba, ssh/sftp or do i create a ftp-server? |
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| 16:49.41 | mogra | I had luck using Wine on that U3 app last time. |
| 16:49.42 | wsxws | rocketmagnet cfdisk is a little bit easier |
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| 16:50.03 | timri | mogra: interesting |
| 16:50.25 | rocketmagnet | timri: ty |
| 16:50.26 | ricardo | is there a way of creating a last known working configuration. like in windows |
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| 16:50.47 | wols_ | ricardo: last known working config of _what_? |
| 16:51.04 | mogra | I think I had to map the E: drive, it's been a long time. |
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| 16:51.23 | ricardo | in windows or macafe of the system as a whole |
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| 16:51.29 | mogra | Personally, I don't like U3 drives :P I gave mine to my nephew |
| 16:51.58 | Usiu | wols_, doesnt help |
| 16:52.27 | ricardo | in windows you can revert to known working configuaration of the system |
| 16:52.42 | abrotman | ricardo: you can back up conf files before changning them |
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| 16:52.49 | phil | hi |
| 16:53.17 | timri | ricardo: I use rdiff-backup for that |
| 16:53.33 | phil | looks like i've "crashed" my dpkg. any ideas what to do? http://nopaste.php-quake.net/9533 |
| 16:53.53 | Usiu | wols_, ? |
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| 16:53.57 | Usiu | Any help? |
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| 16:54.32 | marcin_ | Does any have a problem to install grub into mbr at /dev/md0 during the installation? |
| 16:54.33 | ricardo | ok so i can use rdiff-backup to backup configuration files. is that an equivalent to making a last known working configuration |
| 16:54.37 | Ramattack | I'm in really troubles with time in my debian system |
| 16:54.46 | marcin_ | Beacuse, I have a problem with that. |
| 16:54.48 | Ramattack | it's not saving the time |
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| 16:55.13 | aixenv2 | why would a server not be generating a %user/.ssh dir? |
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| 16:55.28 | marcin_ | Even I boot the system from livecd, I mount all raid and lvm partitions.. and I tried to set grub into mbr, but it's impossible. |
| 16:55.34 | aixenv2 | i have a server that allows ssh , but neither root or a basic user has a .ssh dir, so obviously no authorized_keys or known_hosts files |
| 16:55.36 | marcin_ | At /dev/md0 I have a /boot |
| 16:55.38 | timri | ricardo: I use it not only for my config files, but to make a "snapshot" if you will, of my entire drive (i.e. all my partition) |
| 16:56.04 | timri | ricardo: *partitions |
| 16:56.19 | wols_ | Ramattack: hwclock --systohc |
| 16:56.21 | aixenv2 | marcin: when i've had trouble with grub, i installed lilo instead.. and fixed a system that way, when grub wouldnt work |
| 16:57.01 | wols_ | marcin_: you want to have your /boot in a non raided partition |
| 16:57.01 | timri | phil: Does it actually say ": command not foundine 9: " or is that a weird pastebin error ? |
| 16:57.11 | ricardo | timri, that sounds like what im after. |
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| 16:57.31 | phil | timri: no, it's copy & paste so it does really say what you read there |
| 16:57.58 | phil | timri: i already searched the bugtracker but couldn't find anything helpful |
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| 16:58.10 | Ramattack | wols_, says the exec of select() to /dev/rtc expired |
| 16:58.12 | marcin_ | wols_: why? My friend have /boot on a raided partition and it works for him.. |
| 16:58.24 | wols_ | phil: Ramattack then you need option --directisa |
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| 16:58.40 | phil | wols_: what does it do? |
| 16:58.56 | wols_ | -phil |
| 16:58.58 | chris_abyi | hi. has anyone probably a link to a tutorial how-to install sucessfully and correctly sun java 5.0 and the virtual machine on etch amd64 ? |
| 16:59.02 | phil | oh, sry |
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| 16:59.17 | mnoo | hi, i need to debootstrap some machines and have just finished the first one. now i've copied over /var/cache/apt/archives with all downloaded packages from the full install to the new base systems. but they do not use them! they just downloa again and overwrite them?? any ideas? |
| 16:59.25 | wols_ | phil: check your x11-common.postinst |
| 16:59.39 | Ramattack | wols_, it gives me again one hour more |
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| 16:59.50 | timri | ricardo: http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ |
| 16:59.51 | wols_ | !tell chris_abyi about install java |
| 16:59.58 | chris_abyi | ah cool |
| 17:00.06 | chris_abyi | thanks @ wols_ |
| 17:00.16 | wols_ | Ramattack: that's nonsensical. that doesn't give you any time. |
| 17:00.20 | phil | wols_: doesn't say anything like "foundine" in there |
| 17:00.24 | ricardo | timri, thanks |
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| 17:00.42 | timri | phil: Only 8 hits from google for ": command not foundine 9: ". It looks like a lot of backspace chars are output as well. completely weird |
| 17:00.54 | wols_ | phil: does it say anything about invoke-rc.d? |
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| 17:01.16 | Ramattack | wols_, but when you do date |
| 17:01.20 | phil | wols_: yeah |
| 17:01.20 | phil | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.20 | phil | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.20 | phil | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.20 | phil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:01.28 | Ramattack | it gives you the time wrong too |
| 17:01.29 | phil | duh, sry |
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| 17:01.38 | wols_ | Ramattack: then fix your /etc/default/rcS UTC setting |
| 17:01.43 | timri | wols_: Look at his pastebin: http://nopaste.php-quake.net/9533 |
| 17:01.45 | phil | wols_: whatever: invoke-rc.d x11-common start || exit $? |
| 17:01.48 | ricardo | is there any opensource software I can install on my usb drive to stop being infected by viruses and trojans |
| 17:01.52 | wols_ | timri: I already did |
| 17:02.09 | timri | wols_: It reads "invoke-rc.d: initscript x11-common, action "start" failed." :) |
| 17:02.16 | abrotman | ricardo: in which OS? |
| 17:02.36 | Ramattack | and when it turns machine off it asks for /dev/rtc again |
| 17:02.42 | ricardo | im dual booting windows xp and debian etch |
| 17:02.51 | Ramattack | it's a new machine |
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| 17:02.56 | wols_ | Ramattack: cause it needs --directisa for hwcklock, I already told you |
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| 17:03.11 | timri | phil: I cannot help you with this one, I'am afraid. Waaaay beyond my competence ;( |
| 17:03.15 | wols_ | ricardo: why would you need to guard against viruses in etch? |
| 17:03.31 | phil | timri: okay, np |
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| 17:03.47 | wols_ | phil: since you found the place, edit it |
| 17:03.50 | Ramattack | in /etc/default/rcS it says... UTC yes |
| 17:03.53 | wols_ | comment it out |
| 17:04.02 | ricardo | wols I have ie 6 installed for web development i recko0n that would be a problem ? |
| 17:04.11 | Ramattack | should I set inthis file directisa...? |
| 17:04.12 | wols_ | ricardo: is ie6 in dbeian? |
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| 17:04.24 | ricardo | isnt there linux viruses . i use xfprot to catch those |
| 17:04.25 | wols_ | ricardo: and why does it have access to your usb stick? |
| 17:04.32 | ricardo | wols yeah |
| 17:04.33 | timri | phil: This may sound increadibly simplistic, but have you tried aptitude clean? |
| 17:04.42 | wols_ | ricardo: again, is fprot in debian? |
| 17:04.49 | wols_ | and ie6 is in debian? since when? |
| 17:04.54 | ricardo | wols yeah on debian |
| 17:04.56 | timri | *incredably |
| 17:05.04 | wols_ | ricardo: please don't lie |
| 17:05.06 | bahadunn | wols_: since giants started walking the earth |
| 17:05.13 | phil | wols_: thanks, got it. simply commented it out |
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| 17:05.23 | wols_ | ricardo: ie6 is not in debian, and hence not our problem |
| 17:05.39 | wols_ | especially when it shouldn't need to write to anything on your system |
| 17:05.47 | ricardo | wols i have it installed for web development using wine |
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| 17:05.58 | toresbe | hey guys |
| 17:06.06 | toresbe | I've got a problem with an HP 530 laptop |
| 17:06.07 | wols_ | ricardo: that's your problem if you can't configure your windows software properly |
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| 17:06.13 | timri | wols_: Wait. You're saying the microsoft repository is not supported :) |
| 17:06.21 | toresbe | Debian does not appear to see my HDD |
| 17:06.31 | wols_ | timri: what hdd contller? |
| 17:06.34 | abrotman | toresbe: /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 17:06.44 | timri | wols_: Eh? |
| 17:06.47 | ricardo | wols hang on Im looking for an opensourse virus checker for the usb. I have xfprot on etch |
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| 17:06.57 | wols_ | timri, toresbe.. what's the difference |
| 17:07.06 | toresbe | abrotman: thanks |
| 17:07.07 | timri | wols_: Ah, ok :) |
| 17:07.09 | wols_ | ricardo: there is only clamav |
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| 17:07.23 | abrotman | there are commercial AV for linux |
| 17:07.31 | wols_ | ricardo: xfprot is another non supported software. ask fprot people about |
| 17:07.43 | wols_ | abrotman: ther is also snakeoil for my joints |
| 17:07.57 | dutchfish | rofl |
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| 17:08.12 | ricardo | wols ok what virus protection software do you run |
| 17:08.16 | toresbe | abrotman: I am running 2.6.22 though |
| 17:08.21 | wols_ | ricardo: brain 1.0 |
| 17:08.35 | wols_ | toresbe: kmuto is your best bet out of the box |
| 17:08.47 | toresbe | how can I install the kmuto kernels without netbooting from them? |
| 17:08.51 | ricardo | ok let me check that out |
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| 17:09.18 | toresbe | ah, backports.org |
| 17:09.22 | Ramattack | how should I configure for my debian to query time directly with directisa instead to /dev/rtc? |
| 17:09.34 | ricardo | wols is there a deb package for that |
| 17:09.36 | wols_ | Ramattack: editing files |
| 17:09.47 | wols_ | ricardo: sadly, not yet |
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| 17:09.50 | ManuP | i need to exchange 30GB of data between two pc in my network. how do i realize this? with samba, ssh/sftp or do i create a ftp-server? |
| 17:10.05 | Ramattack | mate they gonna hung me... you say editing /etc/default/rcS? |
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| 17:11.15 | wols_ | Ramattack: I say editing the places hwlclock is called first |
| 17:11.15 | wols_ | if that fdoesn't fix your problem configuring your UTC variable and setting your BIOS clock right |
| 17:11.15 | Ramattack | hwlclock or hwclock? |
| 17:11.15 | Ramattack | the BIOS time is ok |
| 17:11.15 | bahadunn | abrotman: how come I dont have any sho fly pie? |
| 17:11.18 | bahadunn | abrotman: did you put it in the mail? |
| 17:11.26 | ricardo | wols do you have a link ? |
| 17:11.32 | Ramattack | UTC variable has configured in /etc/default/rcS as yes |
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| 17:11.58 | wols_ | Ramattack: is your BIOS clock running as UTC? |
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| 17:14.51 | Ramattack | mmmm is running as my actual time |
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| 17:15.40 | ilaros | hi guys |
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| 17:16.12 | ilaros | can mplayer be used to convert real player videos to mpeg? |
| 17:16.37 | ManuP | if i copy 30GB via scp it is slow because of the encryption, isnt it? |
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| 17:17.25 | wols_ | ManuP: depends a bit on the cipher used, blowfish is fast |
| 17:17.43 | wols_ | ilaros: mplayer is, get it, a player |
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| 17:18.38 | Ramattack | thanks a lot wols_ is done |
| 17:18.57 | Ramattack | vim /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh params I added directisa and is running |
| 17:19.19 | ManuP | wols_, i dont need the encryption. but if it is faster to copy 30gb with encryption then installing and configuring samba or nfs i would do via ssh which is already running. |
| 17:19.35 | ilaros | wols_ how I can convert them? |
| 17:19.40 | simmerz|work | does the installer allow for installing onto raid? |
| 17:19.47 | wols_ | mencoder, ffmpeg perhaps |
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| 17:24.01 | bahadunn | dutchfish: yes I agree |
| 17:24.29 | mogra | that depends on a number of variables. |
| 17:24.55 | mogra | Speed of the cabling used, speeds of the "disk", if a router is running hot... |
| 17:26.38 | wols_ | dutchfish: tell this to my 100MBit LAN. realtek even |
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| 17:26.51 | stew | when I was syncing a couple of > 1tb arrays, i found that although the disk was the bottleneck, i'd still get som more performance out of rsh over ssh |
| 17:26.56 | wols_ | I'd shot myyself if my disk would be slower than my LAN |
| 17:27.05 | dutchfish | wols_, hehe, nowadays you can setup 1Gbit lan for very less money |
| 17:27.26 | bahadunn | I am not sure of the numbers |
| 17:27.32 | wols_ | dutchfish: ~350EUR at least to make it worthwhile... |
| 17:27.34 | bahadunn | I would have to look it up actually |
| 17:27.41 | Ramattack | thanks a lot mates |
| 17:27.43 | bahadunn | but I have a gigabit network |
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| 17:27.44 | Ramattack | bye!! |
| 17:27.46 | wols_ | for GBit I need a new cpu,mobo,ram,vga |
| 17:27.51 | bahadunn | and sata 150 disks |
| 17:28.00 | dutchfish | wols_, i made it for much less 18 ports router with cards |
| 17:28.05 | bahadunn | and I think the disks are my bottleneck |
| 17:28.09 | bahadunn | but like I said I am not sure |
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| 17:28.18 | wols_ | dutchfish: I have a nf2 mobo. no use putting GBit in it |
| 17:28.20 | dutchfish | wols_, correction 18 ports switch |
| 17:28.32 | dutchfish | wols_, thats true |
| 17:28.45 | wols_ | hence, 350EUR upgrade needed |
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| 17:29.27 | dutchfish | wols_, but with no raid 100Mb even saturates a disk |
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| 17:30.02 | wols_ | your disk can only transfer 12MB/s sustained? I doN't think so |
| 17:30.30 | tiredbones | I'm trying to connect my HP Photosmart C6280 on my lenny system. I found a script that HP put together that will install the driver for this printer. They recommend installing the script in /home/username. How well will this interact with the installed that lenny has? |
| 17:31.04 | wols_ | tiredbones: from the sound at it: very bad. isn't there a linuxprinting.org driver for it? |
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| 17:31.35 | wols_ | note: I don't mean the script but the driver actually. where you put the script is irrelevant. it'S the driver that counts |
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| 17:32.09 | dutchfish | wols_, oops you are right, my mistake 100Mbit is ~12MB/sec while disk does 50 - 70 |
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| 17:32.55 | tiredbones | wols, I couldn't find one on the site. The closes I could come was 6100 series. which does work. |
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| 17:34.51 | tiredbones | wols_, I couldn't find one on the site. The closes I could come was 6100 series. which does work. |
| 17:35.08 | wols_ | if it does work why don't you use it? |
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| 17:35.59 | tiredbones | wols_, I sorry- it doesn't work |
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| 17:37.28 | dutchfish | Is there a howto for rebuilding sane's backend with the sources from cvs the debian way (because my HP 5550c is only supported from the sane's cvs version) |
| 17:39.04 | dutchfish | i am talking etch here |
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| 17:41.00 | icnocop | does this apply to debian etch 4.0r1? http://www.bani.com.br/index.php/2007/04/25/hidden-features-of-vino-remote-desktop-access/ |
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| 17:41.53 | maek | does anyone know if there is a way, in grub via a kernel option to run a certain script? like if Im at work I could have a "work" option in grub that would result in my network settings being changed? thanks. |
| 17:41.58 | mogra | icnocop: oooh, been looking for this "feature" for a while with Vino... Read somewhere you have to recompile it to change ports XD |
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| 17:44.01 | icnocop | mogra, so even though it references ubuntu, do you think it's any different in debian etch? |
| 17:44.13 | icnocop | i can't seem to find the gconf application |
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| 17:44.47 | dutchfish | icnocop, you mean this? : http://www.howtoforge.com/racoon_roadwarrior_vpn |
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| 17:45.44 | icnocop | no |
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| 17:45.57 | wald0 | how i can know the DPI that im using on my X ? (startx -dpi... option) |
| 17:46.06 | icnocop | i'm not talking about vpn. i'm taking about remote desktop / vnc |
| 17:46.15 | dutchfish | k |
| 17:46.39 | stew | wald0: xdpyinfo | grep resolution |
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| 17:47.50 | wald0 | thx |
| 17:48.06 | mogra | icnocop: aptitude install gconf gconf-editor |
| 17:48.41 | mogra | the command for getting to that field it says is gconf-editor |
| 17:49.14 | xand | !java |
| 17:49.14 | dpkg | Java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun partially released java as GPL on Nov 13, 2006 (rest expected to be released in 2007). There are other implentations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>, <non-free>. |
| 17:49.59 | SpeedyG | Hi, on the debian disks there's this rescue option, does that drop you to a shell so I can re-install grub? I had to install vista on this laptop, and now my grub's been overwritten :( |
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| 17:51.20 | wols_ | SpeedyG: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-installing.en.html |
| 17:51.49 | icnocop | mogra, ok thank you. |
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| 17:52.12 | SpeedyG | wols_: so it should be possible :) thanks |
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| 17:52.59 | mogra | np, let me know if that trick works :3 |
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| 17:54.13 | icnocop | ok |
| 17:54.26 | capt-rogers | I want to install debian etch...What ISO's do I require (hopefully not all 20!) |
| 17:54.43 | SpeedyG | capt-rogers: the first one will install a nice base-system |
| 17:54.44 | nikok | take the first one |
| 17:54.58 | SpeedyG | you could also use netinstall, and install it over the internet if you'd like :) |
| 17:55.08 | mogra | netinst all the way :D |
| 17:55.33 | nikok | i personally suggest netinst too if u have high bandwith |
| 17:56.02 | capt-rogers | i got LOTs of bandwidth...so I use the NetInst ISO? |
| 17:56.11 | SpeedyG | capt-rogers: exactly :) |
| 17:56.23 | mogra | if low bandwidth, you should just buy a freaking CD pack, fund your OS :3 |
| 17:56.49 | SpeedyG | mogra: I dont even know where a local reseler would be :p |
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| 17:57.05 | irule | how may I know exactly what kernel options are enabled and disabled on debians defalt kernel 2.6.18-5-686? I am looking at iproute2 options and I dont think I should just guess if something is available |
| 17:57.13 | capt-rogers | I am a debian newbie...after the netinst cd...do I emerge --sync..or yum update? (last question, i got it from here..thx) |
| 17:57.20 | stew | mogra: buying a cd pack doesn't in any way fund the OS |
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| 17:57.30 | dutchfish | http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 17:57.37 | SpeedyG | capt-rogers: neither :) it's debian, not gentoo/fedora :D |
| 17:57.40 | \amethyst | irule: /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 17:57.54 | irule | \amethyst thanks |
| 17:58.01 | stew | capt-rogers: "aptitude update : aptitude upgrade" will upgrade the list of available pacakges, and upgrade any that have updates available |
| 17:58.11 | capt-rogers | ok thx |
| 17:58.12 | dalias | why aptitude and not apt-get? |
| 17:58.12 | stew | capt-rogers: /msg dpkg apt-howto ; /msg dpkg reference |
| 17:58.15 | mogra | http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 17:58.17 | stew | dalias: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
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| 17:58.18 | Loigor | how can u even talk about gentoo and fedora in the same sentence |
| 17:58.22 | dalias | the functionality is the same but aptitude needs 4x the ram... |
| 17:58.37 | stew | mogra: SPI doesn't get any of that money |
| 17:58.53 | dalias | stew, apt-get has the autoremove functionality now too |
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| 17:59.15 | irule | cool, I have CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER=y CONFIG_IP_MULTIPLE_TABLES=y |
| 17:59.27 | stew | dalias: yes, in testing/unstable. (he's running stable), and it doesn't have aptitude dependency resolution |
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| 17:59.51 | dalias | ah |
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| 18:00.31 | icnocop | mogra, no it did not work. :( |
| 18:00.36 | mogra | :( |
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| 18:00.54 | mogra | Ubuntu might have changed the source to theirs, or it's newer than Deb has yet? |
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| 18:01.36 | larsl | Trying to use Wireshark (0.99.6 on Debian Testing), but can't get it to capture outgoing traffic, only incoming. The FAQ doesn't seem to say anything about it. Any pointers? |
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| 18:04.45 | twobitsprite | um... I just did a 'aptitude remove --purge mysql' without thinking (oops)... did I just lose all of my data? |
| 18:05.22 | simonrvn | only if you told debconf to purge the dbs on purge |
| 18:05.30 | kisielk_ | twobitsprite: I think that probably only removes the configuration files, your databases should still be there unless you told it otherwise |
| 18:05.35 | dutchfish | twobitsprite, not your db's |
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| 18:05.42 | twobitsprite | whew |
| 18:05.49 | simonrvn | check ;) |
| 18:05.53 | twobitsprite | so, if I reinstall mysql, I should have all of my old tables? |
| 18:05.55 | kisielk_ | anyway, you do have backups, don't you? |
| 18:06.00 | simonrvn | ls -l /var/lib/mysql |
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| 18:06.17 | twobitsprite | simonrvn: ahh |
| 18:06.22 | twobitsprite | simonrvn: yeah, its there, thanks |
| 18:06.27 | twobitsprite | kisielk_: ha! :P |
| 18:06.37 | twobitsprite | backups? :P |
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| 18:06.46 | kisielk_ | yeah.. you know.. like real people |
| 18:06.53 | dutchfish | !backup |
| 18:06.53 | dpkg | somebody said backup was something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression) |
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| 18:07.17 | boob | hi, is there a possibility to have debian etch without X in higher resolution (like 1280x800) ? |
| 18:07.29 | boob | or at least higher than default |
| 18:07.54 | twobitsprite | boob: I assume you meant "with" instead of "without"? |
| 18:08.03 | boob | no, i mean without :) only console |
| 18:08.15 | twobitsprite | you want higher console resolution? |
| 18:08.16 | icnocop | mogra, when i click on the new keys in gconf-editor, it indicates "This key has no schema". do you think that is fine / can be ignored? some of the settings in there do not correspond to the settings in Desktop > Preferences > Remote Desktop |
| 18:08.23 | dutchfish | vga=xxx |
| 18:08.23 | ManuP | is it normal, that /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server needs very, very long (over 5 min) to restart? |
| 18:08.39 | boob | twobitsprite: i want more characters on screen :) |
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| 18:08.47 | ManuP | well... .maybe it dont restart at all - who knows... |
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| 18:09.02 | mbroeker | boob, you need a framebuffer device and it depends on your fbdevice driver. It determines the highest resolution your fbdevice can do. |
| 18:09.05 | boob | twobitsprite: http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/High_Resolution_Console |
| 18:09.07 | mogra | icnocop: I don't know... |
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| 18:10.21 | icnocop | ok. thank you. ;) |
| 18:10.43 | boob | mbroeker: do you know some "tutorial" or something ? im not very experienced :) |
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| 18:12.06 | mbroeker | boob, you need a kernel with fb support and a kernel line like kernel /boot/vmlinux root=/some/where ro vga=788 or so |
| 18:12.14 | mbroeker | but i can look for a tut... |
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| 18:12.50 | twobitsprite | boob: http://shrimpworks.za.net/2005/01/31/change-your-console-resolution-and-colour-depth/ |
| 18:14.43 | stew | !fbcon resolution is run "hwinfo --framebuffer" as root, choose a mode from the resulting list of available modes. the mode will be named in hex, something like 0x305. then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and find the line that starts with "# kopt=" and add "vga=0x305" (substituting your chosen mode), then run "update-grub" and reboot. |
| 18:14.44 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 18:14.56 | stew | !fbcon is also ask me about <fbcon resolution> |
| 18:14.56 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 18:15.09 | simonrvn | abrotman, stew: kwe kwe |
| 18:15.27 | stew | is that the sound a raven makes when it is pleased? |
| 18:15.40 | simonrvn | no, means hi in my language |
| 18:15.43 | simonrvn | :) |
| 18:15.58 | stew | simonrvn: aloha |
| 18:16.04 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 18:16.46 | dutchfish | hai |
| 18:16.53 | abrotman | hi |
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| 18:19.32 | boob | mbroeker: twobitsprite okej, tnx for now :) ill be back later maybe :) |
| 18:19.59 | mbroeker | boob, i havent found a working tutorial in working english anyway. |
| 18:20.34 | boob | mbroeker: ok, tnx anyway |
| 18:20.39 | stew | boob: see what I told dpkg |
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| 18:20.46 | mbroeker | my google presents thousands of german tuts, but they are unreadable for you i think... |
| 18:21.17 | boob | mbroeker: hm, i can try :) give me plz :) |
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| 18:21.54 | mbroeker | boob, search for frambebuffer splash debian or only framebuffer debian |
| 18:22.12 | stew | !fbcon resolution |
| 18:22.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, fbcon resolution is run "hwinfo --framebuffer" as root, choose a mode from the resulting list of available modes. the mode will be named in hex, something like 0x305. then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and find the line that starts with "# kopt=" and add "vga=0x305" (substituting your chosen mode), then run "update-grub" and reboot. |
| 18:22.13 | jcims | n00b question here. /etc/timezone says US/Eastern, but 'date' returns time UTC. what gives? |
| 18:22.23 | jcims | this is a Xen image from debootstrap |
| 18:22.40 | mbroeker | boob, as you can see, its popular. |
| 18:22.46 | boob | stew: ook, tnx :) im gonna try these things :) |
| 18:22.46 | denken | jcims: you have to rerun tzconfig |
| 18:22.49 | denken | ive yet to figure out why |
| 18:22.50 | jcims | ah |
| 18:23.14 | jcims | w00t! |
| 18:23.22 | denken | jcims: its also helpful to apt-get install console-data locales |
| 18:23.54 | mbroeker | brb |
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| 18:23.54 | jcims | danka denken |
| 18:24.09 | drwahl | is there any harm in having multiple official debian repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list? for example, can i have both ftp.debian.org AND ftp.us.debian.org ? |
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| 18:24.32 | jcims | thanks |
| 18:24.34 | azeem | drwahl: you can, but there's not much point if the version and components are identical |
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| 18:25.02 | drwahl | azeem: i'm thinking more for redundancy purposes (ftp.debian.org was down last night) |
| 18:25.07 | denken | jcims: its danke and youre welcome |
| 18:25.17 | jcims | lol...i figured i screwed it up |
| 18:25.22 | jcims | C+ for effort |
| 18:25.29 | bahadunn_ | dutchfish: was it you that suggested changing my mac address to get a new ip from the ISP? |
| 18:25.38 | denken | jcims: erm, willkommen |
| 18:25.42 | azeem | drwahl: don't use ftp.d.o anyway |
| 18:25.44 | azeem | use a mirror |
| 18:25.50 | dutchfish | bahadunn, for relase semi-fixed? |
| 18:25.57 | bahadunn_ | dutchfish: just so you know it worked like a charm and now my inbound mail from people on the same ISP network works fine |
| 18:26.00 | drwahl | azeem: good to know. i will do that from now on |
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| 18:26.05 | bahadunn_ | dutchfish: yeah |
| 18:26.08 | dutchfish | bahadunn, oki :) |
| 18:26.20 | bahadunn_ | dutchfish: it was a brilliant idea :) |
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| 18:26.54 | drwahl | i thought i read some where that apt-get was going to get bittorent capabilities, is anyone aware of this, or am i imagining things? |
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| 18:27.08 | cast | why the fuck has installing wine set it up as the default app to open for a .zip -_- |
| 18:27.12 | azeem | drwahl: yeah, there's somebody working on that |
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| 18:28.17 | drasko | Hi all. After apt-get upgrade, double click in gnome file browser just flashes the scree and not entering in folder, nothing happends. What could be the problem? |
| 18:28.26 | mogra | cast: o.O? never had that happen to me |
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| 18:31.55 | lyscer | How do I enable mysql support in my php scripts? I have installed php5 and mysql, but in the phpinfo() it isn't showing mysql |
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| 18:32.30 | \amethyst | lyscer: aptitude search 'php.*mysql' |
| 18:32.45 | dutchfish | lyscer, php4-mysql or php5-mysql? |
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| 18:33.09 | RichiH | this is utterly random, but are the british postal workers still on strike? |
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| 18:33.52 | qrck | not only them |
| 18:33.59 | qrck | germany jimmy the knopfs too |
| 18:34.08 | qrck | lol |
| 18:34.10 | bartden | hi, how can i grep lets say all lines that contain the letters a and b ? |
| 18:34.14 | dutchfish | does that include spam deliviry? ;) |
| 18:34.19 | qrck | tooot toooooooooot |
| 18:34.23 | lyscer | yay! that looks better. looks like the php5-mysql did the trick |
| 18:34.26 | lyscer | thanks |
| 18:34.28 | \amethyst | bartden: grep a | grep b |
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| 18:34.42 | mogra | who's tooting in #debian? |
| 18:34.57 | \amethyst | bartden: or grep 'a.*b\|b.*a' |
| 18:35.04 | bartden | \amethyst no thats wrong, because first it will grep all lines with a and then pipe it and then grep from those piped lines all lines with b in it |
| 18:35.23 | bartden | i just want to grep 2 patterns at the same time |
| 18:35.29 | bartden | or isnt that possible |
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| 18:35.38 | qrck | mogra: not george bush, don't be afraid |
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| 18:35.41 | qrck | lol |
| 18:35.45 | nox-Hand | Hello hello hello! |
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| 18:36.00 | methods | why are some rubygems packaged into apt-get packages ? |
| 18:36.17 | nox-Hand | Anyone know how to netboot the debian installer? If possible. I have no CDs nor a DVD drive in this old computer, but it supports netboot. |
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| 18:36.29 | Palish | Hey.. Does anyone know how to make WGET mirror a non-toplevel-domain? Such as http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 18:36.36 | Palish | I tried "wget -m http://www.lua.org/pil/" but it starts mirroring www.lua.org |
| 18:36.40 | dutchfish | !netboot |
| 18:36.40 | dpkg | i heard netboot is put your ethernet driver in kernel (NOT as a module), turn on IP: Autoconfiguration in network section, and Root filesystem on NFS (static, not module) in network filesystems section, then read Documentation/nfsroot.txt |
| 18:36.49 | drasko | Hi all. After apt-get upgrade, double click in gnome file browser just flashes the scree and not entering in folder, nothing happends. What could be the problem? |
| 18:36.51 | \amethyst | bartden: doing two greps is a little slow, but it is probably the most robust way of doing it |
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| 18:37.21 | RichiH | grep -E 'a.*b|b.*a' |
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| 18:37.25 | mavhc | Palish: -np for no parent |
| 18:37.28 | RichiH | just to throw another hat in the ring :) |
| 18:37.29 | \amethyst | already suggested that |
| 18:37.36 | \amethyst | except without -E |
| 18:37.42 | RichiH | \amethyst: you escaped the | |
| 18:37.46 | \amethyst | (and gnu grep-specific) |
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| 18:38.02 | bartden | well i tried grep -E "a|b" file but it wont work |
| 18:38.05 | \amethyst | RichiH: in GNU BREs, \| does what | does in EREs |
| 18:38.23 | bartden | aha found it |
| 18:38.26 | bartden | thx for the info |
| 18:38.28 | \amethyst | bartden: of course it doesn't, because that finds all lines with *either* |
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| 18:38.48 | ManuP | if i start nfs-kernel-server, it needs 5 minuites to start, but ps -ef | grep -i nfs dont return the nfsd :( why does nfsd needs so long to "start" and why isnt it running then? the error already occoured during installation |
| 18:38.56 | \amethyst | if you need to grep for lines containing, say, three things, you will see why I suggested multiple greps |
| 18:39.05 | RichiH | \amethyst: agreed. thus, my example is different :) |
| 18:39.15 | \amethyst | RichiH: :P |
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| 18:40.03 | bernhard | hi! second life crashed and now xorg uses full CPU and I can't kill -9 it and I can't shutdown now. Any ideas besides pushing reset? |
| 18:41.10 | bernhard | I logged in from another box. |
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| 18:42.26 | dutchfish | nox-Hand, or this: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Network_Image_Server |
| 18:42.55 | bernhard | well, then I'll reset ... |
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| 18:44.13 | WorkRoey | bernhard: dontcha love it when X is frozen but you can still log in through SSH but can't switch the monitor back to a tty? |
| 18:44.15 | WorkRoey | UNIX SUCKS. |
| 18:44.24 | WorkRoey | God. |
| 18:44.30 | Jyzygzy- | i know |
| 18:44.45 | WorkRoey | It's been an instrinsic problem since I started with it in the late Nineties and it's still a problem. |
| 18:44.54 | WorkRoey | what would it kill someone to write a ttyswitcher command |
| 18:45.09 | WorkRoey | Jyzygzy-: hehe |
| 18:45.24 | simonrvn | it's called chvt ... |
| 18:45.27 | WorkRoey | oh |
| 18:45.28 | WorkRoey | er |
| 18:45.32 | WorkRoey | simonrvn: i've tried that though |
| 18:45.34 | WorkRoey | doesn't work |
| 18:45.36 | simonrvn | learn it before you going whining |
| 18:45.52 | WorkRoey | one second. |
| 18:46.34 | buu | So anyway. |
| 18:46.34 | simonrvn | works fine for me |
| 18:46.42 | cast | awesome @ chvt |
| 18:48.36 | buu | I accidentally used 'head' on the wrong file and now my terminal is rendering text as randomly sized blocks and similar. Reset isn't solving it. |
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| 18:48.36 | buu | Thoughts? |
| 18:48.36 | WorkRoey | simonrvn: how would you do that if your'e logged in through ssh |
| 18:48.36 | nox-Hand | bleh! I have nothing to install Debian from :\ |
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| 18:48.36 | jelly-home | buu: TERM=vt100 reset |
| 18:48.37 | nox-Hand | *scavenges for a USB hdd* |
| 18:48.37 | Jyzygzy- | wols_ so any idea where are my mails? |
| 18:48.37 | WorkRoey | simonrvn: and no keyboard shortcut works locally because X is frozen? |
| 18:48.37 | amphi | buu: ctrl-v ctrl-o [enter] |
| 18:48.37 | jelly-home | amphi: I think he's in alternate character set mode |
| 18:48.37 | dutchfish | nox-Hand, usb stick? |
| 18:48.37 | jelly-home | the funky graphic bits |
| 18:48.37 | ManuP | i installed nfs on my other machine cause on this it doesnt work. |
| 18:48.37 | WorkRoey | simonrvn: doesn't help much in that case does it |
| 18:48.39 | buu | jelly-home: It seems to ask me a question.. |
| 18:48.39 | ManuP | when i try to mount, i get: "mount: 192.168.1.34:/media/nfs: can't read superblock" |
| 18:48.39 | amphi | jelly-home: yeah - ctrl-v ctrl-o resets it for me |
| 18:48.39 | ManuP | whats wrong? |
| 18:48.45 | buu | Oh, I see. |
| 18:48.49 | amphi | jelly-home: ctrl-v ctrl-n to get the funky chars back |
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| 18:48.59 | simonrvn | WorkRoey: it's for a time when people sat the the wks directly, not through ssh |
| 18:49.04 | buu | jelly-home: Nope, "doesn't work". |
| 18:49.05 | simonrvn | at the* |
| 18:49.08 | jelly-home | amphi: thanks, that's news to me! |
| 18:49.11 | simonrvn | man chvt |
| 18:49.21 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 18:49.27 | WorkRoey | simonrvn: ok, but the problem goes like this: X is frozen, no amoutn of ctrl-anything will help. The mouse still moves around (but no click actually registers |
| 18:49.28 | WorkRoey | ) |
| 18:49.33 | WorkRoey | simonrvn: how would chvt help then? |
| 18:50.08 | simonrvn | something's blocking input, obviously |
| 18:50.27 | WorkRoey | sure |
| 18:50.30 | WorkRoey | but what do you do about it |
| 18:50.40 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: ctrl-alt-f1? |
| 18:50.43 | WorkRoey | aside from the reset switch or logging in through ssh and issuing 'reboot' |
| 18:50.46 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: won't work. |
| 18:50.58 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: alt-sysrq-r, then ctrl-alt-f1 ? |
| 18:50.59 | twobitsprite | WorkRoey: is they keyboard plugged in? |
| 18:51.02 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: I've always had these stupid troubles, even back with red hat in the late nineties |
| 18:51.03 | twobitsprite | (sorry, had to) |
| 18:51.12 | WorkRoey | twobitsprite: I'm not eperiencing it no |
| 18:51.13 | WorkRoey | now |
| 18:51.24 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: log in via ssh and chvt 1 as root |
| 18:51.25 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: what is alt-sysrq-r doing again? |
| 18:51.39 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: will that switch the local display though? Or will taht try and siwtch ssh |
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| 18:51.59 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: there's no way to "switch ssh" |
| 18:52.35 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: are you using xfce? |
| 18:52.43 | simonrvn | you login to another vt with ssh |
| 18:53.10 | simonrvn | or use screen |
| 18:54.26 | jelly-home | simonrvn: um, you login to a pts with ssh, not to a vt. ;-) |
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| 18:54.27 | simonrvn | yeh well, you're just acting pedantic ;p |
| 18:54.27 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: well I switched to kubuntu personally ;) |
| 18:54.27 | simonrvn | but you are right :) |
| 18:54.27 | WorkRoey | simonrvn: what would screen help? |
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| 18:54.27 | methods | what package is mkmf is ? |
| 18:54.31 | hcy | how can i get my computer's mac address? |
| 18:54.39 | WorkRoey | simonrvn: who is right and pednatic? |
| 18:54.43 | dutchfish | WorkRoey, login, su- then kill -9 `ps -u <username> -o "pid="` |
| 18:54.48 | simonrvn | jelly |
| 18:54.51 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: you're not using Debian? |
| 18:54.53 | nkuttler | hcy: ifconfig |
| 18:54.54 | icnocop | hcy, type "ifconfig" |
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| 18:54.58 | hcy | thanks |
| 18:55.20 | SleepySocks | hey everyone, I want to use debian as a backup/restore O/S for other linux installs - which version should i be use stable or testing? |
| 18:55.28 | `nstuff | i wonder if a 'computer' has a mac addy ;/ |
| 18:55.29 | simonrvn | stable |
| 18:55.41 | SleepySocks | thanks simon |
| 18:55.46 | simonrvn | `nstuff: hehe |
| 18:55.51 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: not anymore; I grew tired of its glacial adoption of new programs about a year ago. |
| 18:56.02 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: it's just...so....slow.... |
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| 18:56.15 | SleepySocks | does the install cd let me control where the grub boot record is put? |
| 18:56.17 | nkuttler | `nstuff: in the same way it has an ip or an os or whatever... |
| 18:56.18 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: and even now with Kubuntu, I see many of the same problems |
| 18:56.18 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: you're asking for help in the wrong channel, then |
| 18:56.43 | hcy | is it the thing after HWaddr? |
| 18:56.45 | dutchfish | SleepySocks, yes |
| 18:56.46 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: #kubuntu is all in its fanboy gushing state at the moment; they're all busy patting each other ont the back |
| 18:56.54 | simonrvn | hcy: yeh |
| 18:56.55 | dutchfish | SleepySocks, if you install with expert option |
| 18:57.00 | hcy | simonrvn: thanks |
| 18:57.05 | SleepySocks | ok, duchfish, thats all i need to know..thanks guys |
| 18:57.07 | jelly-home | !they don't know |
| 18:57.08 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 18:57.26 | SleepySocks | Ive been using ubuntu and just want to see what debian is like |
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| 18:57.55 | dutchfish | !ubuntu |
| 18:57.55 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
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| 18:58.24 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: even though the symptoms may be the same, using a debian solution might lead a subtly broken ubuntu system, and vice versa |
| 18:58.40 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: come on. I've had the same /exact/ problems with Debian Proper. |
| 18:58.49 | simonrvn | and kinda pointless, it's like asking for a chocolate bar at a tobacco shop |
| 18:58.54 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: and there is no fix for this, btw. |
| 18:59.00 | WorkRoey | It's a God-Hates-Me kind of bug. |
| 18:59.26 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: I heard whining usually helps. :-> |
| 18:59.26 | twobitsprite | WorkRoey: you have to understand the frustration of #debian regulars having to deal day in and day out with ubuntu people pretending they run debian to get help, then complaining that it doesn't work |
| 18:59.40 | zo | Okay, let's recap. It's a bug for a different OS that you say has no fix, and makes you feel that god hates you. |
| 18:59.48 | zo | .... Why are you here? |
| 18:59.58 | simonrvn | twobitsprite: thank you |
| 19:00.36 | twobitsprite | its seems like every time I check in here to see what's going on, this exact conversation is taking place in some form |
| 19:00.51 | dutchfish | wisdom = 10% inspiration & 90% transpiration |
| 19:00.54 | jelly-home | When my focus in X gets stolen, I do some of the abovementioned solutions and either sysrq+r + ctrl-alt-f1 or remote chvt works. |
| 19:01.00 | Eulex | will ext3 filesystems be unmountable after a certain number of mounts without being checked? because I have one here that mount didn't find any fs on, but that e2fsck is happily checking now ("has been mounted 211 times without being checked") |
| 19:01.33 | icnocop | is there an application that support chrooted sftp and restricted ssh? |
| 19:01.41 | jelly-home | Eulex: by default they want to be fscked after a random number of mounts (between 20-50 usually) |
| 19:01.51 | dutchfish | Eulex, nope |
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| 19:01.55 | Eulex | jelly-home, I know |
| 19:02.01 | icnocop | i installed mysecureshell, but it only supports sftp. so now i have to uninstall it. |
| 19:02.39 | WorkRoey | zo: it's a bug that's been lingering with the nvidia drivers I think |
| 19:02.42 | WorkRoey | X just locks up. |
| 19:02.42 | mnoo | I have read that creating an ext3 filesystem with a larger than mkfs.ext3's default journal size can help in metadata-busy workloads, what is the default journal size? i know howto calc the min and max (man page), but not how the default size is calculated? |
| 19:02.42 | stew | icnocop: what behavior are you trying to prevent with a restricted shell? |
| 19:02.51 | WorkRoey | I will try sysrq+r though |
| 19:02.55 | stew | WorkRoey: please go to #ubuntu or #kubuntu for help with kubuntu |
| 19:02.55 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: and remote chvt |
| 19:02.59 | jelly-home | Eulex: sounds like a bug to me |
| 19:02.59 | azeem | WorkRoey: you've been asked to continue elsewwhere |
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| 19:03.06 | icnocop | stew, for the user to read parent directories |
| 19:03.07 | simonrvn | dutchfish: proportions are a bit off, but yeh, about right. in that 90%, that transpiration arrives from processed life experience (yeh, i'm only 35, heh) |
| 19:03.09 | Eulex | jelly-home, debian never does it for the ext3 partition on this external usb drive. mount options in fstab are defaults,user |
| 19:03.11 | WorkRoey | azeem: well with this question. |
| 19:03.14 | WorkRoey | anyway |
| 19:03.16 | WorkRoey | ciao |
| 19:03.16 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: dude, you still haven't even tried any of it?? |
| 19:03.17 | WorkRoey | and thanks |
| 19:03.20 | Eulex | jelly-home, ok |
| 19:03.25 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: no no it's not a problem I have now |
| 19:03.32 | stew | icnocop: why do you care if they read parent directories? |
| 19:03.32 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: I was just bitching about unix in general. |
| 19:03.48 | dutchfish | simonrvn, it was merely meant for WorkRoey, but yes ;) |
| 19:03.51 | WorkRoey | jelly-home: no, my problems with Debian Proper had to do with wrestling the two-ton alligator called sid |
| 19:03.51 | azeem | WorkRoey: this is off-topic here |
| 19:03.56 | jelly-home | WorkRoey: this is not the room for an argument |
| 19:04.01 | simonrvn | dutchfish: i know :) |
| 19:04.02 | WorkRoey | that's right, it isn't |
| 19:04.04 | WorkRoey | like I said, thanks |
| 19:04.05 | WorkRoey | and ciao |
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| 19:04.08 | icnocop | stew, i don't want the user to read usernames |
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| 19:04.46 | SleepySocks | thanks duchfish on !ubuntu...it' why I just want to see what a debian os is like with Debian...I really like the it just works reliability of ap-get and symantic. |
| 19:04.50 | nubcakes | hello :) |
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| 19:05.36 | nubcakes | i have an old pentium 133... BIOS can't boot off CD, floppy drive is dead, etc.... ideas for installing debian on it? |
| 19:05.54 | prgmrchris | put the hd in a another machine |
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| 19:06.23 | twobitsprite | or put a new floppy in it? |
| 19:07.00 | stew | icnocop: well, afaik, there are no such restricted shells in debian that are usable with ssh, just ones that will restrict stuff like sftp/scp/ftp/cvs and such. the general wisdon is that if you can't trust someone, don't give them shell access |
| 19:07.03 | dutchfish | nubcakes, netboot, usbstick, external cdrom |
| 19:07.16 | nubcakes | yeah that's my plan... how will that affect system configuration? is debian setup to autodetect changes in hardware? i know if you try to install windows on one machine and boot it up on another, it rarely goes smoothly, for ex |
| 19:07.43 | nubcakes | BIOS doesn't support netboot or usb (presumably ext. cdrom would be USB, too)... this is a pentium 133 :P |
| 19:08.15 | icnocop | stew, ok. thank you |
| 19:08.18 | sander_ | Anyone got a guide on how to manage striping of 2 hardrives? |
| 19:08.31 | dutchfish | nubcakes, prepare a small partition on the disk for the installer to boot from |
| 19:08.32 | twobitsprite | I would imagine that installing on a nother system, and moving the hdd to the pentium, you might have problems with a i686 kernel being set as default... but I'm not sure |
| 19:08.34 | icnocop | any ideas on how to uninstall mysecureshell? |
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| 19:08.41 | stew | icnocop: how did you install it? |
| 19:08.49 | sander_ | !lvm |
| 19:08.49 | dpkg | methinks lvm is at http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, Logical Volume Manager for Linux, or ask me about <lvm_tutorial>, or extremely sexy. almost as sexy as Theo |
| 19:09.04 | twobitsprite | !Theo |
| 19:09.04 | dpkg | theo is, like, Theo de Raadt, founder of OpenBSD. See <www.theos.com>. |
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| 19:09.20 | icnocop | stew, using dpkg -i mysecureshell_0.95_i386.deb |
| 19:09.44 | nubcakes | dutch, good idea... read about that.. but the install guide said i'd need a full ISO... is that correct? or can i do a net install? |
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| 19:10.13 | stew | icnocop: 'dpkg -r mysecureshell' should remove it then |
| 19:10.25 | nubcakes | (i'm bandwidth capped because i live in deepest darkest africa.. downloading full ISOs is something to avoid :) |
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| 19:10.41 | icnocop | stew, oh ok. thank you! :)) |
| 19:11.16 | dutchfish | nubcakes, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP-Install-HOWTO-13.html && 4 DVD set |
| 19:11.42 | dutchfish | nubcakes, by chance westafrica? |
| 19:11.49 | nubcakes | dutch, yep |
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| 19:12.19 | dutchfish | nubcakes, you can order at bamako (and others) |
| 19:12.23 | nubcakes | the whole reason i'm installing deb is to setup a transparent proxy + bandwidth controls :) |
| 19:12.44 | nubcakes | unfortunately i'm only here for 2 more days :/ |
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| 19:12.54 | atsang | hey guys, any decent resources about debugging odd nfs issues... i'm having this weird issue that may be related to ldap |
| 19:13.04 | dutchfish | nubcakes, http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 19:13.11 | atsang | google, it does nothing |
| 19:13.22 | atsang | (the) |
| 19:13.30 | nubcakes | thanks for the link dutch... 4 DVD set? is etch that big? o.O |
| 19:13.54 | dutchfish | nubcakes, i think you maybe get away with 1 for that |
| 19:14.17 | stew | nubcakes: you only need the first cd, or a netinst cd + a pacakge or two |
| 19:14.18 | mbroeker | i am running lenny/sid and want to install splint. But there is only splint-doc to install. whats wrong with the splint binary??? |
| 19:14.24 | dutchfish | nubcakes, squid and tools is not that big anyway |
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| 19:14.30 | nubcakes | problem with ordering a CD is that i'm not going to be here by the time the CD arrives, so won't help :/ setting this up for family |
| 19:14.34 | kisielk_ | does anyone have a recommended tool to monitor the status of servers (as in, are they up) ? |
| 19:14.56 | kisielk_ | I'm looking for something fairly lightweight |
| 19:14.58 | nubcakes | dutch, that's what i thought... pretty much just going to network install base system... squid, apache, samba, cups |
| 19:15.20 | dutchfish | nubcakes, oki thats roughtly 300mb or so (when installed) |
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| 19:21.13 | twobitsprite | why did installing plone-site with aptitude make it want to remove xpdf-utils but not xpdf? |
| 19:21.21 | icnocop | can i get debian to read files from a windows share? |
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| 19:21.41 | mogra | icnocop: Samba? |
| 19:21.54 | icnocop | mogra, ok i will try. thank you! :D |
| 19:22.06 | mogra | ;) |
| 19:22.11 | mogra | !samba |
| 19:22.11 | dpkg | it has been said that samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html), or #samba on irc.freenode.net |
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| 19:24.12 | Qosta | привет! |
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| 19:24.24 | mogra | !ru |
| 19:24.24 | dpkg | hmm... ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 19:24.49 | Qosta | :) |
| 19:24.53 | mogra | Hello to you too, Qosta ;) |
| 19:25.22 | simonrvn | what does привет mean? |
| 19:25.31 | mogra | Pronounced "Privet", means "Hello" |
| 19:25.40 | simonrvn | aah, thanks |
| 19:25.43 | Qosta | Ukraine! not Russia |
| 19:25.55 | Qosta | Hello mean |
| 19:26.01 | mogra | >.> right |
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| 19:26.39 | rsl_ | uk*raine* |
| 19:26.45 | rsl_ | my name is raine B( |
| 19:26.51 | rsl_ | hilighted |
| 19:26.54 | HardDisk_WP | hi all |
| 19:26.55 | HardDisk_WP | can VLC dump out the frame positions of the chapter beginnings of a DVD title? |
| 19:27.04 | HardDisk_WP | or any other dvd player? |
| 19:27.22 | HardDisk_WP | I have a DVD rip from a DVD of a concert, but I want to split the songs...in the DVD each song is one chapter |
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| 19:27.33 | bernhard | chvt 1 doesn't do anything. I can kill it. |
| 19:27.34 | jelly-home | rsl_: at least you're not highlighted by perverts or people discussing samwiches |
| 19:27.34 | tzanger | good afternoon |
| 19:27.47 | bernhard | chvt 7 exits, but that's no help |
| 19:28.00 | sobersabre | guys, I am sick of NFS. |
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| 19:28.01 | tzanger | where is the location of where persistent network device<-->module mappings are kept? I thought it owuld have been a udev rule but it doesn't appear so... when I boot up I have an eth3 device now, no eth0/1/2 |
| 19:28.13 | HardDisk_WP | !z25 |
| 19:28.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, z25 is as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. If you don't want udev to touch your interface names, remove that file and z45_persistent-net-generator.rules in the same directory. |
| 19:28.21 | HardDisk_WP | tzanger, see this one |
| 19:28.21 | sobersabre | I've heard that AFS is something much more scalable and works far better. |
| 19:28.28 | jelly-home | sobersabre: I hear it works well on Sun's OSes. |
| 19:28.31 | sobersabre | Is it complicated to setup AFS ? |
| 19:28.32 | bahadunn | afs? |
| 19:28.43 | tzanger | HardDisk_WP: thanks! |
| 19:28.47 | HardDisk_WP | tzanger, np |
| 19:28.51 | bahadunn | andrew file system? |
| 19:28.52 | sobersabre | jelly-home, NFS is a very limited solution |
| 19:28.56 | sobersabre | bahadunn, yes |
| 19:28.59 | bahadunn | I thought that was no longer maintained |
| 19:29.11 | bernhard | resetting again ... |
| 19:29.12 | jelly-home | OpenAFS then? |
| 19:29.13 | rsl_ | jelly-home: it's third time today when I get hilighted :) |
| 19:29.23 | sobersabre | I meant openafs. |
| 19:29.34 | sobersabre | although it's open, it is still afs. |
| 19:29.36 | sobersabre | isn't it? |
| 19:29.37 | jelly-home | The raine in the Spaine stays manely in the plane. |
| 19:29.44 | bahadunn | nfs works fine for me on clusters |
| 19:29.52 | dutchfish | there is nothing wrong with nfs if you do a proper setup |
| 19:30.01 | bahadunn | I agree |
| 19:30.06 | sobersabre | bahadunn, how many nodes do you have "on clusters" ? |
| 19:30.27 | bahadunn | sobersabre: its a 6 node cluster |
| 19:30.35 | dutchfish | if you like expirimenting you could do with lustre |
| 19:30.46 | bahadunn | sobersabre: servering 680 GB over nfs |
| 19:30.46 | sobersabre | bahadunn, that's one hell of a cluster ;-) |
| 19:31.03 | sobersabre | bahadunn, it doesn't matter for NFS how many GBs it shares. |
| 19:31.06 | bahadunn | sobersabre: I feel your sarcasism |
| 19:31.14 | bahadunn | sobersabre: I never said it did |
| 19:31.27 | sobersabre | NFS works well, if you have simple 1 switch or chained several similar |
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| 19:31.41 | sobersabre | besides it's server based |
| 19:31.51 | sobersabre | so when you have SERVER, you always can have DOS |
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| 19:32.09 | bahadunn | we wont be having a DOS |
| 19:32.21 | sobersabre | I mean, not from bad guys, but from jobs that run and suddenly need all together to write something on the same file |
| 19:32.23 | bahadunn | anyways there is a new file system I read about today |
| 19:32.25 | bahadunn | sounds nice |
| 19:32.29 | sobersabre | code ? |
| 19:32.31 | sobersabre | coda |
| 19:32.32 | sobersabre | ? |
| 19:32.43 | bahadunn | its called ceph |
| 19:32.51 | bahadunn | not coda |
| 19:32.53 | simonrvn | been around a while.. (coda) |
| 19:32.54 | bahadunn | coda is not new |
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| 19:33.01 | sobersabre | yep |
| 19:33.07 | bahadunn | http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Ceph_Distributed_Network_File_System |
| 19:33.19 | dutchfish | lustre |
| 19:33.29 | bahadunn | has some similarities to lustre |
| 19:33.36 | bahadunn | ceph I mean |
| 19:34.09 | jelly-home | there are always some funky new filesystems around |
| 19:34.15 | bahadunn | yeah this is true |
| 19:34.16 | jelly-home | !google starfish |
| 19:34.37 | sobersabre | bahadunn, I cannot afford "work in progress" solution. |
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| 19:34.50 | sobersabre | eventually the nodes need to compute, and to store data somewhere. |
| 19:34.52 | bahadunn | sobersabre: what are you talking about? |
| 19:34.59 | sobersabre | bahadunn, ceph |
| 19:35.09 | jelly-home | starfish is nonfree, but gratis for up to 1TB storage. http://wiki.digitalbazaar.com/en/Starfish_Distributed_Filesystem |
| 19:35.11 | bahadunn | sobersabre: I was not trying to provide you with a solution |
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| 19:35.27 | sobersabre | oh, I thought it's been like a suggestion :) |
| 19:35.27 | bahadunn | sobersabre: I was merely pointing out an interesting thing I read recently |
| 19:35.30 | sobersabre | nvm |
| 19:35.34 | bahadunn | sobersabre: sorry for the confusion |
| 19:35.35 | sobersabre | :) |
| 19:35.46 | sobersabre | ok so, back to the Q> how complicated is AFS ? |
| 19:35.52 | sobersabre | to maintain etc. |
| 19:35.52 | bahadunn | we were on file systems and it brought that article to my mind |
| 19:35.57 | bahadunn | dont know |
| 19:36.00 | bahadunn | never used afs |
| 19:36.03 | bahadunn | just read about it |
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| 19:36.13 | simonrvn | need kerby working properly first |
| 19:36.16 | bahadunn | I cannot remember why I choose not to use afs |
| 19:36.35 | bahadunn | there was some reason |
| 19:36.45 | bahadunn | probably not a big reason for most people |
| 19:36.49 | bahadunn | but it was enough for me |
| 19:37.14 | jelly-home | hmm, ceph looks suspiciously like starfish ;-) |
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| 19:37.34 | jelly-home | same ideas |
| 19:37.58 | simonrvn | "The moon is currently above the horizon" |
| 19:38.03 | bahadunn | I have heard of starfish actually |
| 19:38.08 | bahadunn | not read much about it though |
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| 19:38.18 | bahadunn | simonrvn: is it now |
| 19:38.31 | simonrvn | where i am, yeh =) |
| 19:38.46 | bahadunn | simonrvn: you are in maple leaf area right? |
| 19:38.52 | simonrvn | and hi there bahadunn - been keeping well? |
| 19:38.59 | bahadunn | simonrvn: yes pretty well thanks |
| 19:39.00 | simonrvn | eh, more or less yes |
| 19:39.01 | bahadunn | simonrvn: you? |
| 19:39.11 | simonrvn | cool, yeh, doing good :) |
| 19:39.18 | bahadunn | simonrvn: how is the astronomy up there? |
| 19:39.33 | simonrvn | sucks in the city. awesome in the bush |
| 19:39.45 | bahadunn | I have too much light polution here but during Christmas I am going to some other island with not much people on it |
| 19:39.55 | bahadunn | should make for really nice viewing with the telescope |
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| 19:40.21 | simonrvn | yeh, sounds like a blast |
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| 19:40.59 | simonrvn | ok, really gtg now, still need to get ready... drumming day ;) |
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| 19:41.45 | elnovatillo | hello debianers, how do i install russian keyb layout in debian lenny? |
| 19:41.52 | elnovatillo | !russian |
| 19:41.53 | dpkg | rumour has it, russian is Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
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| 19:42.28 | Eulex | elnovatillo, it's very likely already installed, but you will need to select it. is this for a linux console or for X? |
| 19:42.41 | bahadunn | sobersabre: you can try lustre |
| 19:42.41 | elnovatillo | Eulex: im using KDE |
| 19:42.51 | bahadunn | sobersabre: it is not a "work in progress" solution |
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| 19:43.00 | bahadunn | sobersabre: and it is very good for distributed |
| 19:43.15 | Eulex | elnovatillo, reconfigure Xorg to use your keyboard layout. |
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| 19:43.24 | Eulex | !drxx elnovatillo |
| 19:43.24 | dpkg | elnovatillo: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 19:43.38 | elnovatillo | Eulex: thanks ill try now |
| 19:43.39 | Eulex | ... or edit your xorg.conf. |
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| 19:45.00 | mnoo | hi, i need to debootstrap some machines and have just finished the first one. now i've copied over /var/cache/apt/archives with all downloaded packages from the full install to the new base systems. but they do not use them! they just downloa again and overwrite them?? any ideas? |
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| 19:45.25 | elnovatillo | Eulex: what if i want english and russian at the same time? |
| 19:45.41 | Eulex | elnovatillo, you mean that you want to be able to change between them? |
| 19:45.47 | elnovatillo | Eulex: yes |
| 19:46.19 | DarkBahamut | hi everyone |
| 19:46.41 | DarkBahamut | o.O |
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| 19:47.05 | bahadunn | mnoo: no that should work |
| 19:47.14 | bahadunn | mnoo: weird that it does not |
| 19:47.31 | bahadunn | mnoo: are you sure that the packages in archives are the same ones being downloaded again? |
| 19:47.33 | sobersabre | bahadunn, sorry, was off irc. lustre is it commercial app |
| 19:47.35 | sobersabre | ? |
| 19:47.47 | bahadunn | sobersabre: open source as far as I know |
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| 19:47.58 | DarkBahamut | umm.. gtg cya |
| 19:48.26 | Eulex | elnovatillo, XkbLayout "ru,us" the XkbOption to "grp:switch,grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" |
| 19:48.33 | sine | Hello. How can I reconfigure sources.list without editing them? Could I use dpkg-reconfigure apt or something similiar? |
| 19:48.34 | bahadunn | sobersabre: I have heard it is a lot of work to setup |
| 19:48.43 | bahadunn | sobersabre: but once setup it is very reliable |
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| 19:49.22 | elnovatillo | привет |
| 19:49.25 | bahadunn | sobersabre: http://wiki.lustre.org/index.php?title=Main_Page#What_is_Lustre.C2.AE.3F |
| 19:49.25 | Eulex | elnovatillo, .. for example, there are other keyboard combos you can set it to change layout when pressed |
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| 19:49.51 | Daiden | hey |
| 19:49.54 | Eulex | elnovatillo, see http://ubuntu.sabza.org/2006/10/13/xubuntu-easily-switch-keyboard-layout/ (it also describes how to do it without restarting X) |
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| 19:50.05 | sobersabre | I am reading ! :) |
| 19:50.06 | sobersabre | thanks. |
| 19:50.13 | elnovatillo | Eulex: i just did it throug KDE layout |
| 19:50.23 | sobersabre | bahadunn, hope you've forgiven me for the sarcasm |
| 19:50.32 | Eulex | elnovatillo, ok |
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| 19:50.50 | Eulex | elnovatillo, the method described above is desktop environment-independent. |
| 19:50.56 | bahadunn | sobersabre: of course |
| 19:51.03 | elnovatillo | угд |
| 19:51.09 | elnovatillo | thanks Eulex |
| 19:51.14 | bahadunn | sobersabre: how can God forgive me if I do not forgive others? |
| 19:51.24 | mnoo | bahadunn: yes, sure. and it the same arch... eveything the same. is there any other 'database'/'cache |
| 19:51.32 | mnoo | bahadunn: -db or sth.? |
| 19:51.47 | Eulex | sine, no. |
| 19:51.52 | bahadunn | mnoo: having the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives should work like a charm |
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| 19:52.06 | bahadunn | mnoo: I have done it before even |
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| 19:52.25 | bahadunn | mnoo: very strange that it would download the packages again |
| 19:52.37 | bahadunn | mnoo: you said you are using dbootstrap though right? |
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| 19:53.04 | bahadunn | maybe debootstrap does not use archives |
| 19:53.10 | mnoo | bahadunn: yes but its after the bootstrapping is done.. I'm just talking about the non-base-system packages |
| 19:53.23 | bahadunn | mnoo: yes I know what you speak of |
| 19:54.06 | mnoo | bahadunn: i've only tested aptitude, will try it with apt |
| 19:54.15 | bahadunn | mnoo: so you debootstrap and install the base system then copy stuff over and chroot into the new install or something? |
| 19:54.24 | mnoo | bahadunn: exactly |
| 19:54.25 | proppy | Can I change the severity of a bug report by replying to the bugmail ? |
| 19:54.29 | bahadunn | mnoo: strange |
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| 19:54.41 | bahadunn | mnoo: no idea why it would not work |
| 19:54.53 | wols_ | Jyzygzy-: wherever you put them |
| 19:55.16 | irule | is it possible to backup all routing tables etc before making tests so that I may restore to the way it was afterwards? thanks |
| 19:55.31 | mnoo | bahadunn: if you're so sure it has to be my fault ... I'll recheck everything and thanks for your help |
| 19:55.44 | bahadunn | mnoo: no problem |
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| 19:55.59 | bahadunn | mnoo: I cannot say I have ever done it in a debootstrap before |
| 19:56.20 | sobersabre | I don't like lustre for one thing.... |
| 19:56.23 | sobersabre | already |
| 19:56.27 | bahadunn | mnoo: but I have done it in a fresh install copying packages used after a base-install into archives so has not to download them again |
| 19:56.35 | bahadunn | mnoo: what you are doing I think should work fine |
| 19:56.40 | sobersabre | no package for Debian |
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| 19:56.46 | bahadunn | sobersabre: and whats that |
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| 19:56.47 | sobersabre | I think that's a big no... |
| 19:56.49 | bahadunn | sobersabre: oh |
| 19:57.04 | sobersabre | I mean, it's not that I have a problem with source install. |
| 19:57.15 | bahadunn | p liblustre - Runtime library for Lustre filesystem utilities |
| 19:57.18 | bahadunn | p lustre-dev - Development files for the Lustre filesystem |
| 19:57.22 | bahadunn | p lustre-utils - Userspace utilities for the Lustre filesystem |
| 19:57.25 | bahadunn | I have those packages |
| 19:57.34 | sobersabre | bahadunn, .... do you use etch ? |
| 19:57.47 | bahadunn | sobersabre: that package list is from one of my lenny boxes |
| 19:57.51 | sobersabre | :) |
| 19:58.01 | sobersabre | ok, next thing you know is offer me to install ubuntu |
| 19:58.02 | sobersabre | :) |
| 19:58.25 | sobersabre | maybe we have lustre in the backports.... who knows. |
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| 19:59.18 | bahadunn | sobersabre: could be |
| 19:59.27 | bahadunn | sobersabre: you could live on the edge with lenny |
| 19:59.38 | sobersabre | I could, with my laptop |
| 19:59.41 | bahadunn | sobersabre: I am jesting though |
| 19:59.46 | sobersabre | I don't think my clusters could... |
| 19:59.47 | sobersabre | :) |
| 19:59.50 | sobersabre | yep. |
| 19:59.56 | bahadunn | maybe there are backports |
| 20:00.13 | bahadunn | sobersabre: you could take the stuff from lenny and backport them to sarge easily enough |
| 20:00.19 | bahadunn | I mean etch |
| 20:00.26 | bahadunn | :) |
| 20:00.45 | sobersabre | I can dpkg-buildpackage |
| 20:01.03 | bahadunn | yeah |
| 20:01.55 | sobersabre | this is a burden I can bear. |
| 20:02.33 | YGingras | I'm about to repartition my system and I want raid and lvm. The prob was grub+lvm on / or grub+lvm on /boot? |
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| 20:03.11 | train` | YGingras, there's no problem anymore with root on lvm |
| 20:03.16 | train` | and /boot too |
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| 20:03.39 | YGingras | train`: grub-install complains, lilo is fine |
| 20:04.06 | YGingras | grub-install hd0 => /dev/mapper/main-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. |
| 20:04.06 | train` | YGingras, debian-installer AFAIK handles it just fine |
| 20:04.22 | YGingras | train`: yes, by insatlling lilo : ) |
| 20:04.24 | train` | YGingras, you don\t install grub on partition :) |
| 20:04.33 | train` | you install it on hard drive |
| 20:04.38 | YGingras | but I want Xen, so, I kind of need grub I think |
| 20:05.01 | train` | YGingras, really, I've done it many times, d-i plus grub. I'm not using lilo, for some years now |
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| 20:05.21 | train` | grub-install /dev/sda or hda whatever |
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| 20:05.36 | train` | and make sure in menu.lst you got root=/dev/main/root |
| 20:06.04 | YGingras | train`: I get the same error :-\ |
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| 20:06.55 | train` | YGingras, try with grub-install --recheck |
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| 20:11.43 | mcgreg | I have a small problem. I am trying to run snes9x but I get such an error:" /dev/dsp: No such file or directory ; Sound device open failed" what does this mean? an error in my system? this application is obsolete considering sound? |
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| 20:12.13 | wols_ | mcgreg: it means you don't have OSS installed |
| 20:12.18 | wols_ | tell mcgreg about alsa checklist |
| 20:12.25 | wols_ | !tell mcgreg about alsa checklist |
| 20:12.57 | wols_ | mcgreg: the important part for you is 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 20:13.07 | mcgreg | i see, thx for help :) |
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| 20:14.01 | mcgreg | wols_: yeah,. indeed the driver wasnt loaded |
| 20:14.40 | mcgreg | works now, thx :) |
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| 20:15.19 | nubcakes | is it a good idea to put /tmp on a separate partition? how large is reasonable? install docs talk about 50mb but that sounds so puny... 512mb? |
| 20:16.06 | simonrvn | some people do, others put it on tmpfs, i'd say about 64-256 MB depending on how much use it sees |
| 20:16.16 | nubcakes | tmpfs? interesting, thanks :) |
| 20:16.36 | simonrvn | it's vmem based, so it'll disappear on reboot |
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| 20:17.11 | mogra | if it's /tmp why need on reboot? xD if you need it on reboot, save it to a real folder :D |
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| 20:17.30 | bartden | is it possible to show all the files in a tar file withoud extracting them ? |
| 20:17.39 | mogra | isn't that tar -l? |
| 20:17.45 | linio | -tv |
| 20:17.50 | nubcakes | oh hmmm.. i see that now.. does it make sense to use it on a 128mb ram system that will basically be running squid and using apache occassionaly for remote administration? |
| 20:17.54 | mogra | that's right |
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| 20:18.06 | mogra | man tar is your friend >.> |
| 20:18.21 | mogra | it's --list, btw, long-hand version |
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| 20:18.53 | mogra | only 128mb? hmm, depends on WHAT you'd be throwin ghtere |
| 20:19.04 | mogra | at that low resources, I'd conserve RAM |
| 20:19.46 | nubcakes | yeah. i can't really see it using that much tmp all that often... |
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| 20:20.26 | mogra | If it's ju7st for squid and remote admin, make a partition for it, methinks. |
| 20:21.09 | nubcakes | yep... no sense guessing, for now. i'll monitor it and see how resources are used over time and decide from there :) |
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| 20:22.42 | nubcakes | i've been running colinux with samba to rescue data from an ntfs drive (which windows ironically won't mount), it's running deb 4.0r0 with 64mb ram quite nicely so i'm sure it'll be fine with 128 |
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| 20:24.48 | mogra | :) good idea |
| 20:24.54 | mogra | about th emonitoring |
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| 20:25.02 | HardDisk_WP | does anyone know a decompiler for ELF binaries? |
| 20:25.05 | mogra | and yea, it should run fine, methinks |
| 20:25.11 | HardDisk_WP | it seems the binary in question has debug stuff |
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| 20:25.47 | sid | I'm trying to figure out where ifplugd is starting from on this one system |
| 20:26.00 | sid | I did update-rc.d -f ifplugd remove, and it still starts, where else should I look? |
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| 20:27.05 | mbroeker | HardDisk_WP, if the binary is not stripped and compiled with gdb support, you can try gdb or ddd |
| 20:27.45 | HardDisk_WP | mbroeker, yes the binary is not stripped... |
| 20:27.59 | HardDisk_WP | are those two decompilers or only debuggers? |
| 20:28.26 | mbroeker | only debuggers, but they show some stuff |
| 20:28.40 | doogers | Do you know where download Gnome Online Desktop sources? |
| 20:29.02 | OleMoudi | hi people, any good how-to on how to enable wake on lan on a debian box? |
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| 20:30.04 | andre | doogers, http://live.gnome.org/OnlineDesktop/GetRunning |
| 20:30.16 | Nyle | what is this online desktop? |
| 20:30.17 | train` | OleMoudi, you enable it on your BIOS, not your OS |
| 20:30.18 | doogers | yes |
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| 20:30.37 | Nyle | if you have the internet, aren't all desktops online |
| 20:30.37 | Nyle | ? |
| 20:30.38 | doogers | Nyle, I need source |
| 20:30.39 | doogers | Nyle, I need sources |
| 20:30.41 | OleMoudi | so SO has nothing to do with it train` ? |
| 20:30.46 | andre | Nyle, http://live.gnome.org/OnlineDesktop/Vision |
| 20:30.54 | OleMoudi | OS* |
| 20:31.06 | train` | OleMoudi, yes, your NIC have to has this function, and you have to enable it from BIOS |
| 20:31.14 | HardDisk_WP | mbroeker, well the program is not running faulty...i just want to get it's source |
| 20:31.21 | train` | then, you should use etherwake to wake another machine |
| 20:31.46 | train` | etherwake - A little tool to send magic Wake-on-LAN packets |
| 20:31.46 | train` | wakeonlan - Sends 'magic packets' to wake-on-LAN enabled ethernet adapters |
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| 20:32.08 | mbroeker | HardDisk_WP, ok. thats not possible with gdb and friends. i do not know a decompiler for ELF |
| 20:32.30 | HardDisk_WP | mbroeker, ok :( |
| 20:32.30 | wols_ | HardDisk_WP: IDA Pro |
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| 20:33.12 | HardDisk_WP | wols_, might be worth a try. |
| 20:33.25 | HardDisk_WP | it gives raw assembler source, right? |
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| 20:33.37 | wols_ | there is no netter disassembler than IDA Pro for x86 |
| 20:33.43 | wols_ | *better |
| 20:33.55 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 20:33.56 | HardDisk_WP | can I convert this stuff to real c/C++ code then? |
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| 20:34.14 | wols_ | you can, if you can do it yourself |
| 20:34.42 | HardDisk_WP | ^^ |
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| 20:35.01 | wols_ | there is no well working C decompiler out there |
| 20:35.08 | HardDisk_WP | ok |
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| 20:36.27 | jason___ | hi all, i just installed the newest debian using netinstall, now im using this USB wireless adapter and using lsusb it shows up correctly, and in lsmod i see it has the correct driver loaded |
| 20:36.40 | jason___ | its based on ZyDAS 802.11b Wifi |
| 20:37.04 | Nyle | jason___: but... |
| 20:37.09 | jason___ | now my question is, how do i make the system debian aware that i want to use this USB adapter to access the internet ? there are no tools |
| 20:37.23 | jason___ | although ive installed wireless-tools and WPASupplicant |
| 20:37.26 | wols_ | jason___: ifconfig -a. does the interface for it show? |
| 20:37.56 | train` | jason___, try with iwconfig, and see if it will come up |
| 20:37.57 | jason___ | huh weird ifconfig command not found wtf |
| 20:38.01 | wols_ | also did you install its firmware |
| 20:38.15 | wols_ | jason___: /sbin/ifconfig, you are not root |
| 20:38.18 | jason___ | i dont think i did install its firmware, but maybe it did automatically |
| 20:38.29 | wols_ | not it does not do it automatically |
| 20:38.37 | jason___ | it doesnt appear in ifconfig |
| 20:38.43 | jason___ | and iwconfig says no wireless extensions |
| 20:38.53 | wols_ | zd1211-firmware - Firmware images for the zd1211 and zd1211rw wireless drivers |
| 20:39.00 | jason___ | using aptitude ? |
| 20:39.29 | jason___ | using aptitude i find zd1211-source |
| 20:39.42 | sander_ | Do anyone know if 1tb disks is less stable than eg. 500gb disks? |
| 20:40.01 | wols_ | !tell jason___ about non-free |
| 20:40.11 | jason___ | (which i am installing at the moment) |
| 20:40.13 | wols_ | sander_: #hardware |
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| 20:40.58 | sander_ | thanks |
| 20:41.01 | jason___ | so wols_ .. what do i need to install the firmware now, have u got anything i shud add to my aptitude paths ? |
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| 20:41.11 | jason___ | i only find the source |
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| 20:41.55 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.04 | jason___ | ? |
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| 20:42.53 | jason___ | sorry i didnt follow exactly, whats going on ? |
| 20:42.58 | Loof | Is there any package to relay a video feed or webcam as a twain output to MS Vista? |
| 20:43.10 | Loof | The software expect a local webcam |
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| 20:43.34 | lou_gr | 12 |
| 20:43.41 | jason___ | ah ok just saw it wols_ sorry |
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| 20:46.22 | Nyle | rahul: ping |
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| 20:46.33 | D-32 | hi |
| 20:46.34 | rahul | !pong Nyle |
| 20:46.37 | rahul | bah |
| 20:46.42 | rahul | !penixstrike dpkg |
| 20:46.42 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking dpkg to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 20:46.44 | Nyle | yaar tera ph# kya hai, msg kar |
| 20:46.49 | Nyle | bhool gaya |
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| 20:46.55 | D-32 | anyone here who can help me with getting compiz to work on 2 screens? |
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| 20:47.18 | Nyle | D-32: well |
| 20:47.19 | rahul | bhenchode |
| 20:47.24 | Nyle | just have dual head working |
| 20:47.34 | D-32 | yeah both screens work |
| 20:47.35 | Nyle | compiz will work if you have dual head properly configured |
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| 20:47.39 | D-32 | but if i start compiz |
| 20:47.40 | Nyle | you want two seperate cubes? |
| 20:47.45 | Nyle | #compiz-fusion |
| 20:47.46 | D-32 | i get this RandR missinbg error |
| 20:47.52 | Nyle | join there |
| 20:47.55 | jason___ | wols_: sorry i still cant find zd1211 firmware .. i add non-free to my sources in aptitude |
| 20:47.57 | D-32 | no |
| 20:48.02 | Nyle | what do you mean no? |
| 20:48.02 | D-32 | the cube thing i dont need |
| 20:48.10 | D-32 | just the exposé function |
| 20:48.16 | D-32 | and the window wobbler ^^ |
| 20:48.17 | Nyle | D-32: just go to #compiz-fusion |
| 20:48.30 | D-32 | there iwas |
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| 20:48.36 | Nyle | go there agin |
| 20:48.38 | D-32 | they said i should try here :P |
| 20:48.49 | jason___ | wols_: i have ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ etch main non-free |
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| 20:51.24 | jason___ | any help anyone _ |
| 20:51.24 | jason___ | ? |
| 20:51.43 | Nyle | rahul: are you jackin it? |
| 20:51.50 | rahul | heh |
| 20:51.51 | Nyle | go ahead, tyt |
| 20:51.57 | Nyle | LD |
| 20:52.01 | Nyle | :D |
| 20:52.31 | jason___ | shit im so stupid forgot to update apttiude |
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| 20:52.50 | jason___ | wols_: I have installed the zd1211-firmware .. could you tell me what i need to do next ? |
| 20:53.04 | wols_ | no |
| 20:53.17 | Nyle | jason___: dpkg -L zd1211-firmware|grep doc |
| 20:53.29 | Nyle | see if you can find anything that tells you what to do with the package |
| 20:53.33 | jason___ | i dont understand the transition from having installed the drivers to how to make the system 'aware' |
| 20:53.37 | jason___ | ok thnx nyle |
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| 20:54.10 | Nyle | !zd1211 |
| 20:54.10 | dpkg | methinks zd1211 is the _vendor-based_ community driver for ZyDUS USB wireless LAN chipsets (http://zd1211.wiki.sourceforge.net/VendorBasedDriver). Packaged in Debian as 'zd1211-source'. The driver is unmaintained and was rewritten, ask me about <zd1211rw>. A brief history is at http://zd1211.wiki.sourceforge.net/VendorDriver. Not expected to compile on recent kernels. |
| 20:54.34 | Nyle | jason___: buy better hardware. |
| 20:54.39 | phrozen77 | is there a log of packages installed by apt somewhere? |
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| 20:54.47 | bahadunn | lustrer |
| 20:54.47 | jason___ | sorry, i only have this .. does it mean i wont be able to use it ? |
| 20:54.58 | Nyle | you can try on etch |
| 20:55.02 | jason___ | i am on etch |
| 20:55.10 | Nyle | just read the links first |
| 20:55.34 | jason___ | i found the doc u told me before, said copy these files to /lib/firmware/zd1211 where it can be loaded by the rewritten zd1211 driver |
| 20:55.35 | wols_ | phrozen77: /var/log/dpkg.log* |
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| 20:56.05 | sam_ | how can i check the version of an insalled package please? |
| 20:56.08 | extor | I installed the debian etch package for lighty and enabled the cgi mod but it couldn't find the binary. Are there no .deb packages for the binary or should I just point it to the debian CLI binary for php4 or php5 maybe? |
| 20:56.27 | phrozen77 | wols_, thanks :) |
| 20:56.41 | rahul | Nyle: booking a trip, one sec |
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| 20:56.53 | johnseb | hi everyone |
| 20:56.58 | stew | sam_: "dpkg -l packagename" or "apt-cache policy packagename" or "dpkg -s packagename" |
| 20:57.15 | sam_ | Stew thanks |
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| 20:57.42 | johnseb | i have a few questions |
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| 20:57.52 | jason___ | Nyle: However I now have the driver and the firmware, shudnt I be good to go now ? |
| 20:57.58 | johnseb | i'm trying to have a video installation up and running |
| 20:58.07 | Nyle | sure |
| 20:58.07 | wols_ | jason___: unload the driver and reload it again first |
| 20:58.12 | johnseb | i'm with sid |
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| 20:58.25 | johnseb | two problems |
| 20:58.46 | wols_ | jason___: and check your logs |
| 20:58.49 | johnseb | 1) my fan just stopped earlier, ***bad*** there was a wire blocking it, but i'm not sure |
| 20:58.59 | johnseb | cpufreqd failed at startup |
| 20:59.08 | chemist | i cant work out how to configure my soundcard to record from spdif, its a cm8738. Can anyone help me |
| 20:59.28 | jason___ | Nyle: Sorry, how do I unload the driver and reload it? |
| 20:59.43 | johnseb | no actually, i dunno really if the fan stopped, but the computer stopped sudendly |
| 21:00.08 | johnseb | could it be problematic if cpufreqd does not start |
| 21:00.09 | johnseb | ?ç |
| 21:00.35 | wols_ | johnseb: no |
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| 21:01.06 | wols_ | if a PC can't run at its rated speed continously, it's broken, kaput |
| 21:03.34 | johnseb | wols_: now it seems to be running ok |
| 21:03.43 | johnseb | so, i guess it was the wire blocking the fan |
| 21:03.49 | johnseb | glad it didn't burn the cpu... |
| 21:04.39 | jason___ | Hmm how do I now if i loaded the firmware correctly ? and apparently the zd1211rw driver is included in kernels 2.6.18 and newer, and using modprobe i found that i have it, i just dont understand what i need to do next ? |
| 21:04.45 | jason___ | in iwconfig nothing comes up |
| 21:05.01 | cahoot | dmesg tells |
| 21:05.04 | jason___ | but afaik everything i need i have now |
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| 21:05.52 | jason___ | usbcore: registered new driver zd1211rw |
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| 21:06.26 | sobersabre | ok... moving on. bye all |
| 21:06.44 | jason___ | does that mean im good to go if usbcore says registered new driver zd1211rw ? |
| 21:06.57 | cahoot | dmesg tells if the fw gets loaded |
| 21:07.11 | jason___ | yes well did it say that now or not ? |
| 21:07.38 | wols_ | not |
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| 21:09.16 | jason___ | i dont get it |
| 21:09.16 | jason___ | http://www.pastebin.ca/776068 |
| 21:09.29 | jason___ | it saying something about zd1201 firmware failed |
| 21:09.36 | jason___ | but it should be zd1211 no > |
| 21:09.39 | cahoot | zd1201 firmware upload failed: -2 |
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| 21:09.51 | fakap | hello |
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| 21:09.59 | jason___ | what could i do now ? |
| 21:10.00 | fakap | hello ? |
| 21:10.03 | fakap | anybody home ? |
| 21:10.07 | cahoot | you shall not use the debianproved fw AFAIK |
| 21:10.13 | cahoot | provided |
| 21:10.19 | fakap | what AFAIK means ? |
| 21:10.28 | Eulex | !afaik |
| 21:10.28 | dpkg | methinks afaik is as far as I know |
| 21:10.31 | jason___ | ok, then what should i do ? |
| 21:10.38 | fakap | ok |
| 21:10.46 | fakap | !evilwm |
| 21:10.46 | dpkg | well, evilwm is a borderless wm. extremely minimalistic (if you care about that kind of thing) |
| 21:10.59 | fakap | !squid |
| 21:10.59 | dpkg | squid is probably the Squid Internet object Cache a fast web proxy server. Its home page is at http://squid.nlanr.net/, or easy to do transproxy with, see http://www.unxsoft.com/transproxy.html, or faster than netscape's own cache, use it!, but uses much more memory, or http://thor.prohosting.com/~nchansy/meal/squid.jpg, or tasty in battered ring form, or <squid deb caching>, or <transparent proxy> |
| 21:11.08 | cahoot | http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw |
| 21:11.19 | jason___ | i have that driver |
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| 21:11.58 | madclicker | hi, on etch host running a guest os w2k3 using qemu. The Guest OS crashes as soon as I try to activate or use IE6. I re-installed twice already |
| 21:12.00 | cahoot | # |
| 21:12.00 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.00 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.01 | jason___ | i mean thats in the source since 2.6.18 |
| 21:12.14 | abrotman | madclicker: seriously doubt that's a debian issue |
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| 21:12.28 | jason___ | ee but wols_ told me to get zd1211-firmware |
| 21:12.55 | enouf | bad wols_ , bad ;-) |
| 21:13.03 | jason___ | ok i just removed it |
| 21:13.08 | fakap | !debian |
| 21:13.08 | dpkg | it has been said that debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
| 21:13.09 | jason___ | using aptitude |
| 21:13.17 | cahoot | http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw - jason___ |
| 21:13.18 | abrotman | fakap: /msg dpkg foo |
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| 21:13.33 | enouf | fakap: you are aware of /msg dpkg <keyword> yes? |
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| 21:13.48 | fakap | ok |
| 21:13.50 | enouf | !late me |
| 21:13.50 | fakap | tq |
| 21:14.05 | jason___ | yes cahoot i have that.. but i dont get it what they want me to do now |
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| 21:14.53 | Speckal | I just switched to debian not too long ago and I really like it. My wm of choice is not gnome/metacity, however; I'm a fluxbox guy. Is there any way to get some of debian's convenience into fluxbox? eg. auto-mounting, package update checking, etc. |
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| 21:14.59 | cahoot | jason___: read the page, see section Firmware? |
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| 21:15.03 | dwu_ | why is locales broken in sid? |
| 21:15.21 | jason___ | yes.. ahh i thought its the same, im just downloading it now |
| 21:15.26 | jason___ | sorry |
| 21:15.27 | stew | dwu_: someone uploaded a glibc6 2.7 version by mistake |
| 21:15.39 | dwu_ | stew: that someone should be shot |
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| 21:18.44 | jason___ | cahoot: I copied the files from the link to /lib/firmware/zd1211 |
| 21:19.27 | jason___ | but still same problem in dmesg |
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| 21:20.00 | jason___ | do i need to do anything else rather than copy the files i just downloaded ? |
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| 21:20.25 | cahoot | it's told in the README |
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| 21:20.48 | chuck | hi, i've just installed gcc, but when i try to compile a simple hello world file, it says that stdio.h: file cannot be found |
| 21:21.01 | Kosma | chuck: install build-essentials |
| 21:21.02 | chuck | what other packages do i want to install to get that? |
| 21:21.04 | chuck | okay |
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| 21:21.17 | capiira | hi all i just created a new user account and the gnome-network-manager won't start in that account! anyone know how to fix this ? |
| 21:21.18 | jason___ | it just says copy the zd1211_* files to /lib/firmware/zd1211 where they can be loaded by the rewritten zd1211 driver ... |
| 21:21.36 | chuck | Kosma: E: Couldn't find package build-essentials |
| 21:21.47 | Kosma | chuck: or build-essential |
| 21:22.32 | chuck | there we go |
| 21:22.54 | chuck | that's a cool "metapackage" or whatever they're called |
| 21:23.13 | Kosma | k, now a real hard question: how do I prevent Debian from installing all the possible x11 drivers? :D |
| 21:23.23 | enouf | heh |
| 21:23.32 | wols_ | Kosma: why would you do that? |
| 21:23.43 | enouf | which release .. oh and they take almost no space |
| 21:24.00 | Kosma | testing |
| 21:24.16 | Kosma | still, I see no reason why they should be on my system |
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| 21:24.30 | stew | Kosma: just remove the ones you don't want |
| 21:24.54 | Kosma | ugh, I guess I'll have to do it that way :P |
| 21:25.01 | stew | Kosma: if you don't want them installed in the first place, then don't use the xorg / xserver-xorg-video-all / xserver-xorg-input-all metapackages |
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| 21:25.27 | stew | Kosma: instead install only the packages you need "aptitude install xserver-xorg xbase-clients xfonts-base..." |
| 21:25.32 | jason___ | cahoot: Do i maybe need to reboot after copying the files there ? thats all it said in the readme, and i did it .. but still same error |
| 21:25.46 | Kosma | so, there is no way to prevent 'Recommended' packages from installing? |
| 21:25.55 | enouf | sure there is |
| 21:25.57 | jason___ | the weird thing is dmesg says zd1201 firmware upload failed |
| 21:25.58 | cahoot | jason___: wait a minute |
| 21:26.02 | jason___ | but it should be zd1211 |
| 21:26.02 | jason___ | ok |
| 21:26.29 | Kosma | enouf: tell me the secret :D |
| 21:26.54 | enouf | Kosma: i'll let others finish their thoughts first ... |
| 21:27.31 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.35 | Kosma | I guess it involves some Magic ;> |
| 21:27.52 | karsten | I've determined that it's the client, not the server, that's bombing out. strace shows writing to a socket at time of segfault. |
| 21:28.41 | cahoot | jason___: see if makes any difference if you put them directly under /lib/firmware |
| 21:28.47 | jason___ | ok |
| 21:29.06 | jason___ | on the side, do i need to do anything after moving the files there normally ? |
| 21:29.27 | cahoot | jason___: just copy |
| 21:29.33 | jason___ | ok done |
| 21:29.35 | enouf | Kosma: no .. i just don't use aptitude, though others have good reason to mention it to newcomers, and even non-newcomers, so be patient .. |
| 21:29.47 | cahoot | jason___: modprobe -r zd1211rw |
| 21:30.05 | jason___ | nothing comes up after modprobe |
| 21:30.13 | jason___ | but thats good no ? |
| 21:30.15 | cahoot | note the -r |
| 21:30.23 | jason___ | yes i did |
| 21:30.36 | jason___ | that means that the firmware is found no ? |
| 21:30.46 | cahoot | is it listed in lsmod atm? |
| 21:31.03 | jason___ | usbcore lsits zd1201 |
| 21:31.16 | cahoot | not zd1211rw? |
| 21:31.19 | jason___ | no |
| 21:31.23 | jason___ | how do i remove zd1201 ? |
| 21:31.36 | jason___ | maybe it takes priority over 1211rw and thus cannot load ? |
| 21:32.03 | cahoot | jason___: modprobe -r zd1201 |
| 21:32.16 | jason___ | nothing comes up |
| 21:32.39 | jason___ | sorry .. what does it mean if nothing shows after the modprobe ... that whatever im probing is found no ? |
| 21:32.40 | cahoot | jason___: modprobe zd1211rw now and check dmesg |
| 21:32.52 | jason___ | with -r ? |
| 21:32.55 | cahoot | no |
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| 21:33.18 | jason___ | usbcore: registered new driver zd1211rw |
| 21:33.37 | jason___ | so thats good now i guess _ |
| 21:33.38 | jason___ | ? |
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| 21:34.36 | enouf | Kosma: anyways, i use apt-get .. and not sure when and if apt has been altered already, but if apt-get also exihibits that behavior add 'APT::Install-Recommends=False;' to /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 21:34.42 | cahoot | jason___: how come you started out using zd1201? is that really the correct module? |
| 21:34.53 | jason___ | i think that was used by default |
| 21:34.58 | jason___ | have i removed it now > |
| 21:35.26 | jason___ | or maybe because using aptitude i installed the files wols_ suggested |
| 21:35.46 | Kosma | whoa |
| 21:35.52 | Kosma | enouf: that was the Magic I needed |
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| 21:36.21 | rahul | !penixstrike Nyle |
| 21:36.21 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking Nyle to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 21:36.59 | cahoot | jason___: is this a usb thingie? |
| 21:37.03 | jason___ | yes |
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| 21:37.36 | cahoot | jason___: what id has it got accoring to lsusb - like xxxx:xxxx |
| 21:37.40 | jason___ | now i dmesged again it its again registering new driver zd1201 |
| 21:37.42 | zwerg | Hi there. |
| 21:37.43 | jason___ | lsusb |
| 21:37.46 | jason___ | upps :P |
| 21:37.55 | jason___ | 0ace:1201 |
| 21:38.18 | jason___ | how can i remove zd1201 and its traces and only use zd1211rw ? |
| 21:38.29 | jason___ | btw what does the above ID tell you ? |
| 21:38.45 | icnocop | what is the default location for apache? |
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| 21:39.40 | k31th | anyone running freenx on debian |
| 21:39.41 | mikes_ | "/var/www" as i remember |
| 21:39.43 | stew | icnocop: default location for what exactly? |
| 21:39.45 | cast | icnocop: for what in apache...it's a big thing, with lots of parts. |
| 21:40.02 | k31th | all the repos i find are unsupported |
| 21:40.05 | cahoot | jason___: that it seems you really want zd1201 and it's firmware - not zd1211rw |
| 21:40.11 | icnocop | like httd.conf |
| 21:40.17 | icnocop | httpd.conf* |
| 21:40.26 | jason___ | hmmmm what, I want it or the USB device ? |
| 21:40.32 | stew | icnocop: for apache or apache2? |
| 21:40.33 | jason___ | :P |
| 21:40.52 | Decepticon | how do i tell if samba is running from the commandline? |
| 21:40.53 | icnocop | oh ok, i think it is /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
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| 21:41.02 | jason___ | well i downloaded the latest zd1201 and fw... shall i try that maybe ? |
| 21:41.07 | abrotman | Decepticon: ps aux ? |
| 21:41.12 | Decepticon | oh right |
| 21:41.24 | stew | icnocop: yes, but, in general, you shouldn't need to edit that file. what are you trying to do? |
| 21:41.35 | jason___ | but zd1211 is officially supported for 2.6.18 and its specifically for the chip in my usb so it should work or not, cahoot |
| 21:41.46 | cahoot | different things |
| 21:42.00 | icnocop | hi stew. i am trying to enable ssl |
| 21:42.14 | jason___ | _ |
| 21:42.16 | jason___ | ? |
| 21:42.23 | Decepticon | frick... i tottally forgot my stupid root password |
| 21:42.30 | cahoot | jason___: according to google the usb id points to zd1201 |
| 21:42.38 | Decepticon | what happens if i have too many incorrect password attempts |
| 21:42.39 | stew | jason___: no, its not specifically for your chipset. if you want to verify this, run: grep "0ace.*1201" /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.* |
| 21:42.43 | nkuttler | Decepticon: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
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| 21:42.49 | stew | icnocop: run "a2enmod ssl" |
| 21:42.59 | jason___ | ok let me run that |
| 21:43.06 | icnocop | stew, ok. i will try. thank you!! :)) |
| 21:43.21 | Decepticon | nkuttler i'd rather not do all that if i can just guess it |
| 21:43.25 | abrotman | Decepticon: nothing |
| 21:43.28 | meep | Hey guys. When installing Debian (debian-testing-i386-netinst) I get the error "failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc". Whats going on there? It seems that mount is unreachable (package broken?)... |
| 21:43.29 | Decepticon | how many password attempts can i do |
| 21:43.40 | abrotman | Decepticon: it won't lock you out by default |
| 21:43.41 | valdyn | Decepticon: as many as you can |
| 21:43.45 | Decepticon | alright great |
| 21:43.46 | nkuttler | Decepticon: well if you can guess it you should change it anyway ;) |
| 21:43.46 | stew | icnocop: then you should be adding the SSL paramters for a particular virtual host in /etc/apache2/sites-available or sites-enabled |
| 21:43.49 | valdyn | Decepticon: time is the only limit |
| 21:43.55 | valdyn | Decepticon: but there's easier ways |
| 21:43.58 | jason___ | stew: i dont understand the output of that command lol |
| 21:44.00 | valdyn | !i forgot root's password |
| 21:44.01 | dpkg | 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting to make one appear), 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) reboot -d -f (exec /sbin/init should work); For GRUB (e.g. etch, sarge): in step 1, press 'e' to edit the kernel setting (add init=/bin/sh to the end of it), 'b' to boot. Steps 2-6 are the same. |
| 21:44.04 | Decepticon | well i just had the machine in the corner for a month so i havent used it at all.... forgot it |
| 21:44.12 | jason___ | cahoot: is there anything else you would suggest ? |
| 21:44.14 | Decepticon | but i have a set amount of passwords i use so.. it should be guessable |
| 21:44.17 | stew | jason___: the first column will list the name of the module that supports that device id |
| 21:44.22 | valdyn | Decepticon: read what dpkg said |
| 21:44.25 | stew | jason___: (in this case, zd1201) |
| 21:44.29 | jason___ | yes |
| 21:44.30 | jason___ | it does |
| 21:44.30 | Decepticon | valdyn id rather not do all that |
| 21:44.35 | jason___ | 0x1201 |
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| 21:45.05 | jason___ | stew: but what does that tell us |
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| 21:45.19 | Decepticon | ok hmm... i know the root password... i can get to root via su... but sudo complains with the same password... wtf is going on and why |
| 21:45.39 | stew | jason___: you now have a list of every module in your kernel that supports your specific chipset (since there seemed to be a question about which modules might support your chipset) |
| 21:45.49 | valdyn | Decepticon: sudo takes the users, not root's password |
| 21:45.53 | Decepticon | oh shit |
| 21:45.56 | Decepticon | no wonder |
| 21:46.00 | Decepticon | damn, its been a long time |
| 21:46.00 | zwerg | Some fonts are not antialiased in firefox: http://f.c3w.de/fonts.html |
| 21:46.04 | zwerg | Any idea why? |
| 21:46.29 | jason___ | stew: ok, but what can i do with this information ? |
| 21:46.39 | Jax | Does anyone here know why jabberd/jabber-jud doesn't support discovery? |
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| 21:46.59 | Jax | On debian etch (or testing) |
| 21:47.21 | stew | jason___: with that information, you can know that the statement you made is not true: "< jason___> but zd1211 is officially supported for 2.6.18 and its specifically for the chip in my usb" |
| 21:47.32 | stew | jason___: as its not specifically for the chip in your usb |
| 21:47.38 | jason___ | i see, but cant i upgrade the firmware or smthing ? |
| 21:48.07 | jason___ | but what could be the problem ? if i know i need the zd1201 driver .. and i do have the driver |
| 21:48.35 | jason___ | im going to use the zd1201 fw i downloaded on this website now, maybe that will help me |
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| 21:49.51 | stew | jason___: does the firmware you have indicate which version of the driver it works with? |
| 21:50.34 | jason___ | no it says this is the firmware needed for the zd1201 devices to work |
| 21:50.44 | jason___ | but i have the accompanying drivers from the same site as well |
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| 21:53.07 | jason___ | shall i install those as well ? |
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| 21:53.08 | jason___ | stew: hey this looks good no ? http://www.pastebin.ca/776131 |
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| 21:53.27 | jason___ | iwconfig sees wlan0 now |
| 21:55.44 | jason___ | how do i configure the wireless now though ? isnt there a gui ? |
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| 21:55.45 | cahoot | jason___: you probably want to use network-manager |
| 21:55.45 | jason___ | ok |
| 21:55.45 | jason___ | but it pretty much looks like its working now no ? |
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| 21:55.46 | jason___ | uhh it also found my access points, defo looks like its working now |
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| 21:55.56 | jason___ | at least sofar ... |
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| 21:57.02 | jason___ | now if i could only rember the freaking WEP key... arghhh i dont even know who set it up |
| 21:57.02 | jelly-home | cursed netspiats! |
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| 21:57.03 | jason___ | hmm it says wlan0 is active |
| 21:57.15 | jason___ | how do i check if its working now ? |
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| 21:58.44 | jason___ | and how do i get a little icon in my taskbar to tell me if theres connectivity or something .. similar than in windows (and in ubuntu afaik) |
| 21:58.54 | cahoot | jason___: you probably want to use network-manager |
| 21:58.58 | bstock_ | any nfs guru's here? |
| 21:58.58 | jason___ | ok |
| 21:59.35 | jason___ | ok let me unplug the eth cable now and see if wireless works .. i will report back |
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| 21:59.36 | jason___ | thanx so far though!!!! |
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| 21:59.42 | cahoot | jason___: network-manager-gnome if that's what you use |
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| 22:02.45 | bstock_ | damn, wtf |
| 22:02.45 | mogra | weird |
| 22:02.45 | karsten | Netsplit or services split. |
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| 22:02.48 | ManuP | where does evolution store my mail-accounts? i copied my whole .evolution folder, but on other machine, there arnt my e-mail-accounts. |
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| 22:03.29 | karsten | ManuP: ask #gnome |
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| 22:04.32 | nkuttler | hm, i suspect that some mails i send through exim->smarthost get blocked as spam on the way. i can reach the same addresses without any problems if i use a different mailer and bypass exim. any ideas what documentation i should read (sending from dynamic ip..)? |
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| 22:04.39 | karsten | ManuP: ... and file a bug against Evolution's manpage for not specifying default storage location. |
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| 22:05.02 | BlueToothz | karsten, evolution is retarded, alot of memory leaks |
| 22:05.06 | jason____ | re |
| 22:05.34 | jason____ | Hey guys thanks very much, it works perfectly.. im here using wireless, although iwconfig says channel1 and ive configure the router running open-wrt on channel 6 hehe |
| 22:05.39 | karsten | BlueToothz: yeah, I don't use it. It's supposed to be one of the few MUAs to interop w/ Exchange, but I'm using mutt and Kontact / KMail for that. |
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| 22:05.48 | karsten | BlueToothz: ... w/ imap on the exchange server. |
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| 22:06.00 | ManuP | karsten, ok |
| 22:06.17 | _yannick | Hi, I've a samba question |
| 22:06.18 | _yannick | mount -t smbfs -o username=tom,password=xxx /host/allusers /samba says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on ... |
| 22:06.18 | _yannick | dmesg | tail says mount_data version 1919251317 is not supported |
| 22:06.21 | jason____ | stew: Thanks for your time |
| 22:06.34 | icnocop | bash: apache2-ssl-certificate: command not found |
| 22:06.39 | mick_home | kmail is nice - but the calendar support is out of wack |
| 22:06.42 | jason____ | it was really easy in the end, just needed to do exactly what dmesg told me |
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| 22:06.46 | _yannick | ho can I solve this? |
| 22:06.53 | jason____ | !dmesg |
| 22:06.53 | dpkg | rumour has it, dmesg is print or control the kernel ring buffer. /var/log/dmesg gives you the whole thing from boot time. `dmesg' shows you current ring buffer contents. |
| 22:06.57 | karsten | _yannick: Um, maybe smbmount? |
| 22:07.05 | jason____ | !modprobe |
| 22:07.05 | dpkg | modprobe is probably something you use to install modules with it |
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| 22:07.22 | karsten | mick_home: I actually just use it for calendar. |
| 22:07.30 | mick_home | attached emails w/ calendar files (.ical) get read as txt |
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| 22:07.49 | stew | _yannick: try //host/allusers instead of /host/allusers and you shoud be using cifs not smbfs |
| 22:07.49 | mick_home | now exchange calendars actually work (buggy - but it works) |
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| 22:08.10 | jason____ | Ah ye one general question, why the heck do i need to configure the sudoers using visudo and not just using vim ?? |
| 22:08.19 | mick_home | and the .ical files don't get added into the calendar (korganizer doesn't handle it correctly) |
| 22:08.29 | karsten | jason____: because. |
| 22:08.35 | jason____ | ok fair enuff |
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| 22:08.37 | mick_home | it is very very close to being a killer app (Kontact that is) |
| 22:08.45 | karsten | jason____: man visudo for your answer. |
| 22:08.56 | karsten | mick_home: I hate PIMs. |
| 22:09.00 | Zanga | algum brasileiro? |
| 22:09.01 | jason____ | i know .. but it gets me confused |
| 22:09.09 | karsten | mick_home: Kontact / Korganizer only annoys me a little. |
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| 22:09.28 | jason____ | because for some reason i cant get out of input mode .. so i need to press ctrl+o or whatever and all that shit |
| 22:09.29 | karsten | jason____: Safe locking of sudoers, similar to vipw. So if multiple users are editing at the same time, they can't. |
| 22:09.38 | jason____ | instead of doing a simple :w or ZZ |
| 22:09.39 | karsten | jason____: export EDITOR=vim |
| 22:09.58 | jason____ | what does that export do ? |
| 22:10.00 | karsten | jason____: It's invoking nano IIRC by default. Lame-ass PINE-derived editor. |
| 22:10.05 | karsten | jason____: 'help export' |
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| 22:10.24 | jason____ | i know what export does, but will that let me use vim for all that business ? |
| 22:10.31 | karsten | jason____: It exports an environment variable in bash. Set that in your ~/.bashrc. |
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| 22:10.36 | karsten | jason____: Yes. |
| 22:10.36 | jason____ | shud i include it in the bashrc ? |
| 22:10.41 | jason____ | ok |
| 22:11.06 | Decepticon | where do i edit what samba shares i have and dont have |
| 22:11.10 | karsten | jason____: visudo defaults to $VISUAL, or $EDITOR, or 'editor' IIRC if neither are set. |
| 22:11.18 | Decepticon | and how to check all my hdds |
| 22:11.37 | karsten | jason____: 'editor' uses /etc/alternatives to select a sensible editor. "update-alternatives --config editor" to set that. |
| 22:11.46 | karsten | Decepticon: With a felt-tip marker. |
| 22:11.47 | jelly-home | a rude editor or a sensible-editor? |
| 22:11.50 | karsten | Decepticon: Check them for what? |
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| 22:12.10 | Decepticon | just want to see what hdds i have on the system according to debian and how much space and where they located on the filesys |
| 22:12.11 | karsten | jelly-home: I prefer a grumpy editor myself. |
| 22:12.12 | jason____ | ahhh excellent |
| 22:12.14 | jason____ | thnx karsten |
| 22:12.42 | stew | Decepticon: "fdisk -l" to list all known partitions, 'df -h' will list moutned ones and how much freespace |
| 22:12.48 | karsten | Decepticon: 'cat /proc/partitions' to list known partitions. 'df' to see free space on all mounted partitions. |
| 22:12.52 | jelly-home | and $EDITOR to ed? it's standard after all |
| 22:12.54 | jason____ | btw whats the best bittorrent client for debian ? just the gnome bittorrent or the standard one ? |
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| 22:13.00 | Decepticon | thanks! and what happens after i plug in a new hdd? |
| 22:13.01 | stew | jason____: rtorrent |
| 22:13.05 | karsten | stew: IME 'fdisk -l' won't necessarially list all known partitions. |
| 22:13.08 | jason____ | is that like utorrent ? |
| 22:13.21 | karsten | Decepticon: The usual answer applies. |
| 22:13.25 | karsten | Decepticon: "That depends" |
| 22:13.25 | stew | karsten: it takes the list of disks from /proc/partitions, then actually reads their partition tables |
| 22:13.33 | stew | (iirc) |
| 22:13.45 | jason____ | hahah, aptitude says it does not have super cow powers |
| 22:13.50 | karsten | Decepticon: When are you plugging it in, hotplug or coldplug. What kind of disk. What drivers? Are they loaded? |
| 22:13.51 | Decepticon | i should turn off the computer before i plug in a new hdd right |
| 22:13.55 | jason____ | i now remember the easter egg by typing aptitude moo |
| 22:13.56 | jason____ | hahaha |
| 22:13.57 | jelly-home | jason____: it lies. |
| 22:14.08 | jason____ | and then increasing the verbosity |
| 22:14.10 | jason____ | loco |
| 22:14.16 | karsten | Decepticon: As a general rule, yes, that's better. USB or firewire drives should be automatically detected as hotplug events. |
| 22:14.24 | karsten | jason____: aptitude -v moo |
| 22:14.30 | Decepticon | karsten, i want to plug it in safely, so turning it off right?. its a ATA100 500gb hdd.. i dont know about drivers |
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| 22:14.52 | karsten | Decepticon: Internal HD? |
| 22:14.56 | Decepticon | yes |
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| 22:15.02 | Decepticon | its new, so unformatted |
| 22:15.06 | karsten | Decepticon: No special drivers. Power down. Install disk. Power up. |
| 22:15.12 | andyhalsall | gnight |
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| 22:15.17 | enouf | karsten: i hope you mean freeciv-client-gtk , i;m installing all this crap to test for you :-P |
| 22:15.25 | Decepticon | okay, and how would i make a filesystem on it like ext3 or ntfs or fat32 |
| 22:15.32 | karsten | Decepticon: Should show up as an unformatted device on your IDE bus. Usually one of hd[abcde] |
| 22:15.35 | karsten | enouf: Thanks. |
| 22:15.49 | karsten | enouf: freeciv-client-gtk yes |
| 22:15.52 | jason____ | ok little question again .. is there any way i can have a little status icon for my wireless in the taskbar ? im sure ubuntu had one |
| 22:15.52 | Decepticon | karsten you mean in /dev/hd* or |
| 22:16.03 | stew | Decepticon: partition it with cfdisk or fdisk, then use mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.vfat or some such to create a filesystem |
| 22:16.06 | karsten | Decepticon: yeah, mostly a different way of writing the same thing. |
| 22:16.29 | enouf | karsten: ok, just about done installing |
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| 22:17.25 | karsten | Decepticon: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html |
| 22:17.30 | karsten | enouf: Thanks. |
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| 22:19.00 | Decepticon | karsten thanks |
| 22:19.13 | karsten | NP |
| 22:19.15 | zwerg | Is it possible to have Helvetica antialiased? |
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| 22:19.41 | mmp | hello, why there is no monodevelop package in testing? |
| 22:20.04 | mmp | I tried to google something, but without any results... |
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| 22:20.21 | ManuP | evolution stores data in ~.evolution, settings and accounts in gconftool in setion /apps/evolution and the passwords in ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution, if interested, karsten |
| 22:20.21 | mogra | perhaps you need to try to google something else? |
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| 22:20.57 | hyper_ch | hiho, has anyone succeeded at compiling murmur on Etch? |
| 22:20.57 | tuxthepenguin586 | how do i defrag ext3 |
| 22:20.57 | hyper_ch | tuxthepenguin586: you don't have to |
| 22:21.04 | tuxthepenguin586 | thats freakin sweet |
| 22:21.06 | karsten | ManuP: Thanks. |
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| 22:21.19 | hyper_ch | tuxthepenguin586: just keep about 5% diskspace empty |
| 22:21.23 | tuxthepenguin586 | ok |
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| 22:21.40 | hyper_ch | tuxthepenguin586: well, just keep more diskspace empty than your largest files are ;) |
| 22:21.44 | mmp | mogra: well, I tried almost anything... |
| 22:22.42 | tuxthepenguin586 | ok\ |
| 22:23.02 | Decepticon | how do i comment stuff out in /etc/samba/smb.conf is it # or ; |
| 22:23.25 | hyper_ch | Decepticon: it's always a # |
| 22:23.35 | hyper_ch | Decepticon: at least I don't recall anything else |
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| 22:24.17 | enouf | karsten: hrm , want to join a random channel and tell me what to do? i tried following your earlier quick step-by-step, but it seems the options i'm presented with don;t match |
| 22:24.47 | karsten | enouf: #debian-offtopic |
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| 22:25.01 | enouf | wow , that's random .. O.o |
| 22:25.05 | karsten | :) |
| 22:25.32 | hyper_ch | no one succeeded at compiling murmur then or Etch? ;) |
| 22:28.15 | jason____ | hey guys whats the best players for mp3s .. ive used xmms before but i see xmms2 is out ? is that any good |
| 22:28.21 | jason____ | or are there any better alternatives ? |
| 22:28.31 | hyper_ch | jason____: amarok |
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| 22:28.39 | jason____ | is that the best ye ? |
| 22:28.41 | cast | xmms works well. |
| 22:28.52 | h3xis | audacious |
| 22:29.01 | hyper_ch | jason____: what the best car? |
| 22:29.08 | hyper_ch | jason____: what's the best ice cream? |
| 22:29.09 | mogra | xD |
| 22:29.14 | hyper_ch | jason____: what's the best ....? |
| 22:29.16 | jason____ | i see where u getting at |
| 22:29.18 | streuner | !best |
| 22:29.18 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 22:29.23 | jason____ | i want something lightweight and good |
| 22:29.30 | cast | mplayer :> |
| 22:29.36 | jason____ | i think amarok is abit of an iTunes inspired program |
| 22:29.36 | cahoot | mpg321 |
| 22:29.36 | hyper_ch | vlc |
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| 22:29.47 | jason____ | ye but i want playlists like in xmms |
| 22:29.48 | streuner | haha, vlc light |
| 22:29.48 | mogra | lol, cahoot |
| 22:29.51 | hyper_ch | I think amarok is older than itunes |
| 22:29.51 | jason____ | mplayer i already have |
| 22:29.53 | hyper_ch | vlc isn't light? |
| 22:29.59 | streuner | no |
| 22:30.03 | streuner | !info vlc |
| 22:30.09 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player and streamer), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.6.c-3+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 1116 kB, Installed size: 3068 kB |
| 22:30.17 | cast | mplayer -playlist :D |
| 22:30.25 | hyper_ch | !info mplayer |
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| 22:30.27 | jason____ | ye but i already have mplayer so why bother with vlc |
| 22:30.27 | mogra | vlc has a playlist |
| 22:30.28 | dpkg | mplayer: (The Movie Player), section graphics, is optional. Version: 1.0~rc2-4 (sid), Packaged size: 4929 kB, Installed size: 10404 kB |
| 22:30.38 | Alarm | hello, i try to install vmware workstation . but during the installation i get: Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "4.1.2", while you are trying to use |
| 22:30.38 | Alarm | "/usr/bin/gcc-4.1" version "4.1.3". This configuration is not recommended and |
| 22:30.38 | Alarm | VMware Workstation may crash if you'll continue. Please try to use exactly same |
| 22:30.38 | Alarm | compiler as one used for building your kernel. Do you want to go with compiler |
| 22:30.38 | Alarm | "/usr/bin/gcc-4.1" version "4.1.3" anyway? [no] |
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| 22:30.40 | jason____ | i use vlc in windows but i LOVE mplayer for watching movies, its the best imo |
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| 22:30.51 | karmatronic | hi |
| 22:31.02 | petemc | mplayer does playlists |
| 22:31.04 | jason____ | what i see about amarok that i really like is that it pops out the track titles on the top when it changes |
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| 22:31.20 | cast | amarok is pretty much not light though isn't it? |
| 22:31.21 | jason____ | ye it probably does .. but i wanna keep mplayer for movies hehe and find something specific for music |
| 22:31.25 | mogra | that is very nice, yes. I like Amarok, but I don't need lightweight at the same time |
| 22:31.30 | jason____ | thats the thing ... amarok doesnt look light |
| 22:31.34 | cahoot | so you don't *really* want light weight |
| 22:31.46 | jason____ | i have a 1Ghz laptop 128 ram .. i think this answers the question |
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| 22:31.54 | jason____ | im happy i just got wireless and everything to work |
| 22:31.55 | cast | i'd use cplay :D |
| 22:31.55 | jason____ | hehe |
| 22:31.59 | hyper_ch | jason____: add more ram... that's cheap :) |
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| 22:32.01 | Maliuta | lightweight is ogg123 and some scripts |
| 22:32.03 | Alarm | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.04 | Alarm | <Alarm> i did expor |
| 22:32.08 | Alarm | i did export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.1 but i still get this warning |
| 22:32.13 | jason____ | i will add another 256ram... 512 is 90 euros .. can u believe it ???? |
| 22:32.19 | cast | !vmware |
| 22:32.19 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported. Ask me about <vmware support> and <vmware-package>. |
| 22:32.21 | jason____ | and i dont even know if this system accepts 512 |
| 22:32.22 | hyper_ch | jason____: that expensive? |
| 22:32.30 | jason____ | yes its old sdram 133 mhz |
| 22:32.30 | Asmooh | 512mb? |
| 22:32.36 | hyper_ch | oh |
| 22:32.37 | Asmooh | ooh |
| 22:32.40 | jason____ | you can only get it at some stores |
| 22:32.55 | jason____ | 256 is already 40 euros .. which is a pain in the ass |
| 22:33.03 | jason____ | i can get a laptop with more ram for about the same price on ebay |
| 22:33.20 | Asmooh | i just dont trust ebay |
| 22:33.20 | Asmooh | :) |
| 22:33.22 | jason____ | but i dont have time to buy a laptop in time |
| 22:33.29 | jason____ | so gotta use this old shit |
| 22:33.38 | cast | 128 is plenty for listening to music, making documents, web, and talking shit online |
| 22:33.44 | jason____ | i wish i cud take my dual core 2GB desktop with me haha |
| 22:33.58 | jason____ | ye exactly .. 128 is ok, but i will get another 256 just to be cool |
| 22:34.07 | Asmooh | hm |
| 22:34.20 | jason____ | i mean debian pretty much runs smooth on here |
| 22:34.21 | Asmooh | well; i have 480mb on this pc and it not enough |
| 22:34.33 | jason____ | but what kind of stuff u run ? |
| 22:34.41 | Asmooh | but it isnt a debian os system |
| 22:34.42 | Asmooh | :) |
| 22:34.45 | jason____ | i only wanna surf, talk and MAYBE .. MAYBE do some word processing |
| 22:34.51 | jason____ | what OS is on there ? |
| 22:34.55 | Asmooh | osx |
| 22:34.58 | jason____ | ahhhh |
| 22:35.00 | jason____ | bs OS |
| 22:35.02 | jason____ | no wonder |
| 22:35.06 | Asmooh | bs? |
| 22:35.10 | streuner | !hakadance Asmooh |
| 22:35.13 | jason____ | well .. not my cup of tea |
| 22:35.16 | jason____ | hahah |
| 22:35.22 | Asmooh | osx = BSD and BSD rulrs |
| 22:35.24 | Asmooh | rulez* |
| 22:35.29 | hyper_ch | better OSX than *doze |
| 22:35.34 | jason____ | well thats a pretty bold statement no ? |
| 22:35.40 | jason____ | that osx = BSD |
| 22:35.40 | mogra | what's bs about osx, and it's not really BSD. |
| 22:35.48 | Maliuta | OSX is still shite as a server |
| 22:35.52 | Asmooh | the kernel is bsd :) |
| 22:36.00 | mogra | It's better than Windows as a server |
| 22:36.00 | dondelelcaro | whatever OSX is, it's not on topic here. |
| 22:36.01 | Maliuta | it's been to perverted from the bsd below |
| 22:36.02 | hyper_ch | Maliuta: not everone wants to operate a server |
| 22:36.09 | mogra | the kernel isn't bsd, it's darwin. |
| 22:36.11 | hyper_ch | Maliuta: but I'd love to run murmur ;( |
| 22:36.13 | jason____ | OSX is ok .. but like any newer system in the windows type of trend its heavy |
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| 22:36.22 | Asmooh | mogra, bsd subsystem :) |
| 22:36.22 | jason____ | its defo better than windows |
| 22:36.27 | Maliuta | hyper_ch: when you get handed one to admin it's a PITA |
| 22:36.32 | jason____ | but still nothing close to any pure linux system |
| 22:36.44 | dondelelcaro | jason____, Maliuta, hyper_ch: if you want to discuss OSX, #macosx is that way --> |
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| 22:36.47 | Asmooh | but u can do anything on osx as u can on linux :) |
| 22:36.47 | Alarm | compiling with gcc4.1.3 instead of 4.1.2 could harm my system or just the installation of this software ? |
| 22:36.49 | Asmooh | lol |
| 22:36.51 | jason____ | ok no worries |
| 22:37.03 | jason____ | well i cudnt book a ticket for eurostar the other day using osx |
| 22:37.03 | jason____ | hahah |
| 22:37.09 | jason____ | i tried safari and firefox |
| 22:37.17 | dondelelcaro | Alarm: worst case your kernel modules won't work or will segfault. |
| 22:37.24 | jason____ | you will say stoopid website .. but there you go .. thats enuff for me hehe |
| 22:37.29 | Alarm | Asmooh, you cant do a right click ! |
| 22:37.40 | Asmooh | right click and then? |
| 22:37.41 | Asmooh | :P |
| 22:37.41 | dondelelcaro | Alarm: but the differences between 4.1.3 and 4.1.2 are fairly small, so I wouldn't really worry about it. |
| 22:37.43 | Asmooh | and there? |
| 22:37.43 | jason____ | you *Can* if u want too |
| 22:37.46 | mogra | Alarm: bull, you can |
| 22:38.03 | jason____ | i just think, if you can have linux on the same arch.. why bother with osx ?? |
| 22:38.04 | Asmooh | Alarm, i can :) |
| 22:38.06 | Maliuta | *nix is *nix is *nix. the issues I have with OSX are the same I have with RedHat, too much obfuscation of actual config files to force people to use GUI tools |
| 22:38.10 | Alarm | dondelelcaro, ok thank you |
| 22:38.12 | Asmooh | i have my logitec mouse connected to it >) |
| 22:38.17 | dondelelcaro | folks, please take the non-Debian discussions elsewhere. Otherwise, I'll enforce it for you. |
| 22:38.17 | mogra | amen, Maliuta |
| 22:38.26 | jason____ | ok sorry |
| 22:38.46 | hyper_ch | dondelelcaro: I have a debian discussion but seems no one can help :( |
| 22:38.50 | jason____ | so xmms2 is it much different than xmms ? what about the proggies that come bundled with debian |
| 22:38.57 | dondelelcaro | hyper_ch: try asking your question again |
| 22:39.08 | karmatronic | hyper_ch: what s your pb? |
| 22:39.08 | hyper_ch | dondelelcaro: ;) |
| 22:39.17 | cast | jason____: hugely different, it has a server/client arch |
| 22:39.18 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: installing murmur server on Etch |
| 22:39.18 | streuner | jason____: we already answered your questions about, scroll up |
| 22:39.23 | karmatronic | jason____: xmms2 is really cool |
| 22:39.25 | jason____ | is it heavy ? |
| 22:39.30 | ManuP | i constantly get the error, that evolution cant save inbox. i already deleted the *.ev-summery files, but i still have the problem. if i restart evolution, all mails i deleted are there again |
| 22:39.39 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: can't really work out how to do it :( fond a guide for ubuntu but that doesn't work |
| 22:39.43 | streuner | jason____: use mpg321 then |
| 22:39.53 | ManuP | karsten, #gnome is dead... no response of them, so i ask here again :) |
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| 22:39.55 | Maliuta | streuner: ogg123 |
| 22:39.58 | dondelelcaro | or mpd |
| 22:40.10 | jason____ | or xmms .. but xmms does it have support for flac and shit ? |
| 22:40.20 | mogra | there's a plugin if nothing else |
| 22:40.33 | streuner | <jason____> hey guys whats the best players for mp3s .. ive used xmms before but i see xmms2 is out ? is that any good |
| 22:40.34 | cast | i believe there is a xmms flac pluggin |
| 22:40.40 | jason____ | ok thnx, i think i will settle for xmms then .. although amarok DOES look cool |
| 22:40.41 | karmatronic | hyper_ch: but murmur isnt a client for p2P soulseek ? |
| 22:40.51 | mogra | aptitude install xmms-flac |
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| 22:40.55 | jason____ | ye i only did a quick search and found the plugs for xmms2 not xmms.. but they must be there |
| 22:41.00 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: no, it's a voice server... sort of like teamspeak |
| 22:41.07 | jason____ | mogra: thnx |
| 22:41.14 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: and I've heard quality is good so I'd love to test it :( |
| 22:41.18 | karmatronic | streuner: xmms2 is xmms plus client/server |
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| 22:41.38 | jason____ | but is the gui of xmms2 different ? anyone has a screenshot ? |
| 22:41.44 | karmatronic | hyper_ch: you couls also use asterisk for this purpose |
| 22:41.49 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2896&forum=6 --> second post has the ubuntu guide |
| 22:41.53 | mogra | !tell jason____ about google |
| 22:42.00 | streuner | karmatronic: his question is rather HOW to play any mp3 and without using too much RAM... |
| 22:42.10 | jelly-home | mpd? |
| 22:42.12 | karmatronic | jason____: sorry i use xmms2 with command line |
| 22:42.16 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: to connect to with a client? to asterisk? |
| 22:42.44 | jason____ | command line ye ? but can u do playlists and stuff ? |
| 22:42.56 | karmatronic | jason____: yes |
| 22:42.58 | hyper_ch | jason____: with a shell script |
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| 22:43.12 | jason____ | but that would defeat the purpose for me i guess.. still good to know |
| 22:43.29 | Maliuta | karmatronic: did you just suggest using asterisk music on hold as an music player? |
| 22:43.47 | Maliuta | karmatronic: that's a bit of overkill, and the sound would be shite |
| 22:43.51 | karmatronic | Maliuta: no .... |
| 22:43.51 | hyper_ch | Maliuta: nope, as replacement for a ts2 server |
| 22:43.54 | jason____ | but since xmms has so many plugins .. is there maybe one that like amarok pops up the artist name and stuff ? |
| 22:44.05 | jason____ | when the track changes ... |
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| 22:44.13 | karmatronic | hyper_ch: thank you for making this point :° |
| 22:44.23 | Maliuta | WTF is "teamspeak" |
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| 22:44.35 | jason____ | whats xmms-alarm . |
| 22:44.36 | karmatronic | Maliuta: voice server |
| 22:44.42 | jason____ | ahh.. alarmclock |
| 22:45.13 | Maliuta | karmatronic: for what? |
| 22:45.36 | hyper_ch | Maliuta: as replacement for skype |
| 22:45.45 | hyper_ch | Maliuta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumble_%28computer_software%29 |
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| 22:46.12 | hyper_ch | Maliuta: RPGs without voice aren't that great ;) |
| 22:46.18 | karmatronic | hyper_ch: so why doesnt that work ? |
| 22:46.21 | jason____ | so anyone know of a plugin that displays the next song as a pop up on the top like amarok ? |
| 22:46.27 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: can't compile it |
| 22:46.40 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: can can't find a .deb for etch |
| 22:46.41 | karmatronic | hyper_ch: what s the message you get ? |
| 22:46.50 | Maliuta | Hydroxide: ahh, gamer shit ... remember kiddies: g4m3rz are l4m3rz |
| 22:46.52 | Maliuta | :) |
| 22:47.03 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: according to the Ubuntu guide I posted to you before, I get this: lupdate warning: Met no 'TRANSLATIONS' entry in project file 'murmur.pro' |
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| 22:47.28 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: qmake-qt4 murmur.pro --> that does not return an error |
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| 22:49.08 | karmatronic | hyper_ch: but that s just a warning.... |
| 22:49.30 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: same comes here: lrelease mumble.pro |
| 22:49.38 | karmatronic | hyper_ch: when you run make , what happens ? |
| 22:49.47 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: running it again ;) |
| 22:50.28 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: http://phpfi.com/276522 |
| 22:51.01 | tokemm | hello, how can I make 2 commands execute one after the other in terminal? |
| 22:51.01 | tokemm | for example: #ffmpeg -i video.avi -target pal-dvd video.mpeg and then it executes #ffmpeg -i video2.avi -target pal-dvd video2.mpeg |
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| 22:51.09 | hyper_ch | tokemm: with a && |
| 22:51.20 | hyper_ch | tokemm: command1 && command 2 |
| 22:51.47 | tokemm | with two &s , right? |
| 22:51.48 | tokemm | =P |
| 22:51.55 | hyper_ch | yes |
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| 22:52.10 | tokemm | oh.. ok, thanks! _o/ |
| 22:52.17 | pickcoder | tokemm: bash accepts semi-colons as command delimiters |
| 22:52.22 | TRUNKSNEO | hello all |
| 22:52.26 | tdrusk | I used to use gconf-editor to make my laptop shutdown when the lid closes. In etch it won't let me edit, so it's basically like a gconf-viewer :P. How can I change these settings? |
| 22:52.31 | hyper_ch | pickcoder: it does? cool |
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| 22:53.32 | jason____ | ok time to watch the new southpark, l8ers ppl |
| 22:53.33 | pickcoder | && limits the execution of the following command, based on the status of the preceding command |
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| 22:54.58 | hyper_ch | karmatronic: I guess you have no answer either ;9 |
| 22:56.26 | pickcoder | hyper_ch: got all the libs and includes for that source? |
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| 22:56.40 | hyper_ch | pickcoder: the ones that was given for Ubuntu |
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| 22:57.32 | pickcoder | looks to me like there's code bugs |
| 22:57.52 | pickcoder | is there not a stable release under svn? |
| 22:57.56 | hyper_ch | pickcoder: I have no clue from code ;) I just hope it works ;) |
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| 22:58.19 | mogra | the two && are operators, if command 1 is success, do command 2. || is if command 1 is fail, do command 2. ; is just do it in this order regardless, hyper_ch |
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| 22:59.43 | hyper_ch | pickcoder: how to find the stable release under svn? |
| 22:59.52 | pickcoder | how the heck should I know |
| 22:59.53 | vyrus001 | is there a way i can find out what debian package has the php5 real_escape_string() library? |
| 23:00.31 | abrotman | vyrus001: do you know which part of PHP has it? |
| 23:00.34 | hyper_ch | pickcoder: well, you think trunk isn't necessarily stable... I tended to think trunk is stable |
| 23:00.37 | vyrus001 | abrotman: no |
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| 23:00.58 | pickcoder | hyper_ch: then either A) the code *isn't* stable or B) you're missing stuff |
| 23:01.06 | hyper_ch | vyrus001: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search real_escape_string |
| 23:01.08 | abrotman | http://www.php.net/manual-lookup.php?pattern=real_escape_string&lang=en vyrus001 ... php.net doesn't know that fucntion either |
| 23:01.14 | abrotman | hyper_ch: that won't do anything |
| 23:01.29 | abrotman | vyrus001: you mean mysql_real_escape_string() ? |
| 23:01.39 | vyrus001 | yes |
| 23:01.39 | mogra | he's looking for function in file |
| 23:01.49 | abrotman | vyrus001: it would be in php5-mysql |
| 23:01.55 | vyrus001 | ok ill try that one |
| 23:01.55 | vyrus001 | thnx |
| 23:01.59 | hyper_ch | pickcoder: well, I installed all the libs that are required on ubuntu... dunno what else could be required |
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| 23:03.15 | pickcoder | there's also an alias for it under msqli and maxdb |
| 23:03.46 | awesomess3 | So I-- `apt-get install somepackage' The package puts files into /etc/cron.weekly/. Then I go: `apt-get remove thepackage'. Everything disappears except for the files in /etc/cron.weekly . Isn't that horrible!? |
| 23:03.48 | pickcoder | hyper_ch: then ask on the project user or developer's list |
| 23:03.58 | Zippy2 | --purge |
| 23:04.07 | abrotman | pickcoder: i think the maxdb is a different function |
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| 23:04.23 | pickcoder | abrotman: http://www.zugeschaut-und-mitgebaut.de/php/function.real_escape_string.html |
| 23:04.24 | abrotman | pickcoder: note the maxdb one is part of PEAR .. not PHP |
| 23:04.25 | hyper_ch | pickcoder: well, I highlighted the guy who wrote the guides for gentoo, fedora and ubuntu... but there's no reply yet from him |
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| 23:04.34 | hyper_ch | pickcoder: thx for the help anyway |
| 23:04.38 | awesomess3 | Zippy2: So should I just --purge everytime I remove a package? |
| 23:04.39 | pickcoder | abrotman: there is a php extension for maxdb |
| 23:04.49 | pickcoder | php5-maxdb and php4-maxdb |
| 23:04.51 | abrotman | pickcoder: that's not *in* php like the mysql ones |
| 23:04.56 | awesomess3 | Zippy2: I don't see why purge is not the default for removing a package. |
| 23:04.59 | Zippy2 | if you want to purge the configs. if you placed thatfile there i dont think it would delete it |
| 23:05.03 | abrotman | pickcoder: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.maxdb-real-escape-string.php |
| 23:05.07 | Shadowcat | anybody know why rdns to irc servers would be broken in Linux? |
| 23:05.12 | pickcoder | abrotman: I read that |
| 23:05.14 | Shadowcat | the windows client on this router has no such problems |
| 23:05.18 | abrotman | PECL is not *in* php |
| 23:05.20 | Zippy2 | purge is not the default because distribution administrator err to the side of keeping files |
| 23:05.36 | Zippy2 | administrators.. ie debian, microsoft, etc. |
| 23:05.53 | Zippy2 | or they ask you if you want to delete |
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| 23:06.05 | Zippy2 | but apt is mostly noninteractive |
| 23:06.17 | Zippy2 | by default, afaik |
| 23:06.47 | awesomess3 | Zippy2: but the /etc/cron.weekly/* scripts are not custom. And now I've got a cron job that runs every week that always fails. |
| 23:06.49 | petemc | Shadowcat: rdns isnt broken |
| 23:06.58 | pickcoder | s/files/config files |
| 23:06.58 | Shadowcat | petemc: nm |
| 23:07.01 | Shadowcat | ISP side |
| 23:07.16 | Zippy2 | so delete the file(s) |
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| 23:07.51 | Zippy2 | you shouldnt be running this on a production machine, so it doesnt make a difference |
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| 23:08.04 | tdrusk | I need to edit the files gconf-editor is supposed to edit. How can I do this? |
| 23:08.05 | Zippy2 | s/doesnt/shouldnt/ |
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| 23:08.22 | Zippy2 | afk |
| 23:08.48 | awesomess3 | Zippy2: I just think `apt-get remove' should do this automatically. cron jobs should not be considered 'config files', the cron job files should be considered part of the whole package and therefore deleted when the package gets removed. |
| 23:08.55 | Supaplex | Why do xen HVM domUs not respond to keyboard input durring the bootloader? |
| 23:09.17 | mogra | isn't that something to write a bug report on? |
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| 23:09.25 | mogra | ^ to awesomess3 |
| 23:09.31 | awesomess3 | Because cron jobs don't work if the package isn't there. |
| 23:09.44 | stew | awesomess3: crontabs are generall conffiles |
| 23:09.46 | awesomess3 | mogra: I gotta make sure my logic is Ok first :-) |
| 23:09.47 | stew | generally |
| 23:09.55 | stew | awesomess3: grep cron /var/lib/dpkg/info/*conffiles |
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| 23:11.53 | mogra | if you think it should work that way, you should write a report on it and if it be the will of SPI, it will happen. I dunno if I would recommned using examples like "apt-get remove somepackage" tho. |
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| 23:14.17 | awesomess3 | What if I wanted to know the name of the packages that have files in '/etc/cron*' ? I'm thinking... dpkg -l | while read pckg ; do files="$(dpkg -L $pckg | egrep '^/etc/cron'" ; [ -n "$files" ] && { echo "$pckg:" ; echo "$files" ; } ; done |
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| 23:14.30 | fas3r | hello everybody |
| 23:14.54 | stew | awesomess3: grep etc/cron /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list |
| 23:14.55 | fas3r | do you know if a file isuseat boot for define route ? |
| 23:15.08 | stew | awesomess3: that won't list pacakges that create the file programatically |
| 23:15.41 | stew | awesomess3: also look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/*conffiles those will list the files which are marked as conffiles (which implies that they are a configuration file). and crontabs should be conffiles |
| 23:16.07 | karmatronic | fas3r: /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 23:16.35 | karmatronic | fas3r: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/* |
| 23:16.39 | fas3r | if you prefer it add a route by default but it's wrong route i need to modify it at all reboot |
| 23:16.58 | stew | awesomess3: also you could have run "dlocate /etc/cron" (if you have dlocate installed) |
| 23:17.40 | hyper_ch | pickcoder: karmatronic: problem found :( qt4.3 needed... etch only provides 4.2 |
| 23:17.56 | icnocop | hmmm it seems i have to be logged in the system in order to connect with a vnc client. is this normal? is there a "work-around"? |
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| 23:18.44 | mogra | hyper_ch: maybe need to backport? |
| 23:18.45 | fundesktop | is sending SIGSTOP by pressing Ctrl+Z on the terminal disabled while apt-get is running dpkg or so? |
| 23:18.51 | awesomess3 | afk stew :-) brb |
| 23:19.04 | fundesktop | if yes, how can I disable this behaviour? |
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| 23:19.08 | hyper_ch | mogra: I'm just getting told that the static binary for the server works on etch |
| 23:19.13 | fundesktop | if no, why doesn't it react on Ctrl+Z? |
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| 23:20.17 | stew | awesomess3: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s-config-files |
| 23:20.25 | stew | explicitly talks about /etc/cron* |
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| 23:22.22 | alaxK | How can i remove foreign locales completely ? I keep getting locale warnings whenvery I apt-get something. ( my box was installed in foreign language in the beginning, but i changed it to en, it seems like de locale isnt removed :S ) |
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| 23:22.51 | pickcoder | alaxK: what is /etc/environment set to |
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| 23:23.25 | alaxK | to DE |
| 23:23.31 | alaxK | hmm..should change that :D |
| 23:23.36 | pickcoder | yeah |
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| 23:26.50 | lukas_ | Hi, I have strange things happening on my /var/log/mcelog and I am not able to google it, it seems to bo connected with therma throttling. Could anyone help? |
| 23:27.10 | lukas_ | With mcelog interpretation |
| 23:27.49 | alaxK | pickcoder, thx |
| 23:28.04 | lukas_ | the log is on http://rafb.net/p/klaZVq46.html |
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| 23:28.43 | tokemm | Hi, What program can I get in Synaptic to listen .mid songs? |
| 23:29.09 | tokemm | obs: I use Debian Lenny |
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| 23:29.53 | lukas_ | tokemm: timidity? |
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| 23:30.00 | lukas_ | tokemm: just guess |
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| 23:43.54 | fas3r | how to list update-rc.d script ? |
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| 23:44.24 | gkiagia | list? |
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| 23:45.17 | fas3r | list i want to see all script who are execute at boot |
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| 23:46.22 | gkiagia | they all reside in /etc/init.d/ and the actual scripts that are loaded in various runlevels are in /etc/rcX.d (where X is the runlevel number) |
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| 23:50.23 | fas3r | gkiagia: if i want to remove one just i need to remove the /etc/rcX.d/myscript ? |
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| 23:51.13 | gkiagia | yes, or "update-rc.d -f myscript remove" |
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| 23:52.25 | fas3r | ok thank gkiagia |
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| 23:57.22 | n3kl | How can I tell sylog.conf to point at the remote log server over tcp? *.* @logserver:TCP or something? |
