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| 00:00.07 | _mre|666 | same thing happened to this machine too a few days ago, before i redid it |
| 00:00.28 | _mre|666 | it prompts me for the password, i'd think so |
| 00:00.54 | valdyn | _mre|666: run "sudo shares-admin" in a shell - is that what you need? |
| 00:01.24 | _mre|666 | in the words of the Long John Silver's pirate "genius" |
| 00:01.26 | _mre|666 | heh |
| 00:01.39 | _mre|666 | yes... i think that might lead me to the issue |
| 00:01.53 | valdyn | _mre|666: run it and tell what happens |
| 00:01.58 | _mre|666 | brb |
| 00:02.02 | _mre|666 | it's on the myth box in the other room |
| 00:02.28 | valdyn | my shares-admin just segfaults |
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| 00:04.09 | _mre|666 | ok |
| 00:04.32 | _mre|666 | doublefree or corruption (fasttop) |
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| 00:04.40 | _mre|666 | is the error it's giving |
| 00:04.48 | valdyn | _mre|666: are you on sid? |
| 00:05.19 | _mre|666 | then gives some memory hex address |
| 00:05.34 | _mre|666 | naw, Etch, but i have some sid software running |
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| 00:05.41 | Rickybin | If i'm creating a zone file, what charactor encoding should I save the file in? ANSI, UTF-8, etc? |
| 00:05.42 | _mre|666 | for mythtv |
| 00:05.48 | valdyn | _mre|666: that is probably your problem |
| 00:05.51 | pumpkin0 | valdyn: back to square one. It boots but only w/o hda4/hda5. |
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| 00:06.26 | _mre|666 | fasttop the package? |
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| 00:07.20 | valdyn | _mre|666: mixing etch and sid is ugly and unsupportable |
| 00:07.33 | valdyn | _mre|666: get a clean etch and use backports |
| 00:07.42 | Aleera | thanks I did the cdrdao, valdyn |
| 00:07.48 | Aleera | appricate it. |
| 00:07.52 | valdyn | _mre|666: or use just sid ( which isnt supported either = |
| 00:07.57 | valdyn | _mre|666: mixing does not work |
| 00:07.58 | _mre|666 | ok... |
| 00:08.02 | pumpkin0 | What is the most trustworthy partitioneditor in debian etch ? a cfdisk-created partition seems to create a Kernel-ops and sfdisk complains about it too... |
| 00:08.05 | _mre|666 | so atleast i know what needs to be done |
| 00:08.20 | _mre|666 | i'm trying to remember what sid packages i used on that box |
| 00:08.24 | valdyn | pumpkin0: i always use fdisk, but i havent had a problem with any of those |
| 00:08.46 | valdyn | pumpkin0: you can specify disk layout to to use for those tools i think, see manpage |
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| 00:08.53 | h3sp4wn | _mre|666: apt-showversions will tell you |
| 00:09.02 | h3sp4wn | _mre|666: apt-show-versions |
| 00:09.03 | Aleera | !find growisofs |
| 00:09.07 | pumpkin0 | valdyn: hda4 looks off-by-one. It is too large if i tell cfdisk to use all e available space. |
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| 00:09.17 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'growisofs' (5): (/usr/bin/growisofs) in utils/dvd+rw-tools ;; (/usr/include/kde/k3bgrowisofswriter.h) in libdevel/libk3b-dev ;; (/usr/share/kino/scripts/dvdauthor/growisofs.sh) in graphics/kino ;; (/usr/share/zsh/4.3.4/functions/Completion/Unix/_growisofs) in shells/zsh ;; (/usr/share/zsh-beta/4.3.4-dev-3/functions/Completion/Unix/_growisofs) in shells/zsh-beta. |
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| 00:09.25 | Tramp | pumpkin0: But can't you just zero the PT-entry for hda4 and then recrate? It is empty anyways, isn't it? |
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| 00:10.06 | pumpkin0 | Tramp: i did that already. but cfdisk recreated the same, too-large-by-one hda4 partiton. |
| 00:11.18 | Aleera | thanks for ya help valdyn, a bunch lol.. I got it all straight |
| 00:11.58 | _mre|666 | bash: apt-show-versions: command not found |
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| 00:16.43 | cap_nascimento | hi all |
| 00:17.11 | pumpkin0 | Tramp: using 99% of the space it seems to work. Somehow cfdisk and even fdisk are creating partitons a little bit bigger then usual. Wish me luck, i reboot ... |
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| 00:22.44 | pumpkin0 | valdyn, Tramp: Just for your information: if sfdisk says: "Warning: partition 3 does not start at a cylinder boundary" and you create hda4 with the full size (from end-of-hda3 till end-of-disk) => kernel ops. Using 99% is OK. Yes, my table is fucked up but i still consider that a bug. |
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| 00:23.53 | _mre|666 | thanks for your help valdyn |
| 00:24.13 | _mre|666 | valdyn: stew should pick up a pointer from you... somebody fucked up giving that douchebag ops in here |
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| 00:25.03 | abrotman | huh? |
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| 00:29.57 | socialist | bipolar: you have to put the bind_policy in whichever relevant ldap config files, debian splits them into 3 files I believe |
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| 00:30.23 | socialist | /etc/libnss-ldap.conf, /etc/pam_ldap.conf and /etc/ldap/ldap.conf |
| 00:30.37 | socialist | you probably need libnss-ldap.conf |
| 00:32.24 | bipolar | socialist: got it. thanks! |
| 00:32.46 | bipolar | socialist: you were right. the nss one needed it. |
| 00:35.14 | uzbek | can i merge or join two partitions using gparted? |
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| 00:38.45 | malduin | this channel is pretty quiet considering the 780 people here. |
| 00:39.07 | azeem | it's a support channel, not a general chat channel, that's why |
| 00:39.49 | malduin | ahh. and good support at that. Didn't realize general chatting was verboten :) |
| 00:39.56 | malduin | as you were |
| 00:40.32 | pumpkin0 | well, there are debian-offtopic channels ... |
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| 00:40.53 | rhalff | malduin, asl |
| 00:41.21 | malduin | hehe |
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| 00:46.55 | CalebRipley | I am searching for a Debian Sarge installation CD or a Installation Disk-version who would not install the "stable"-system. |
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| 00:47.43 | abrotman | ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/ i think |
| 00:48.51 | CalebRipley | Thank you very much. Here i can see, that google is not my friend. |
| 00:48.53 | CalebRipley | ^^ |
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| 00:59.42 | dto | hi all |
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| 01:07.21 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 01:07.23 | Ace2016 | if i have debian |
| 01:07.47 | Ace2016 | and i install vista (well use the recovery disks to recover my broken vista) which will most likely destroy grub, how do i restore grub? |
| 01:08.12 | Rickybin | whats a good config file pastebin for the CLI? |
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| 01:10.23 | abrotman | !pastewithoutx |
| 01:10.23 | dpkg | hmm... pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
| 01:11.09 | RichiH | Ace2016: boot a cd like knoppix or grml, mount your disk read/write, mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable, mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev, chroot /your/root, mount -t proc none /proc, grub-install (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map) |
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| 01:12.04 | Rickyban | whats that CLI utility that people use to pastebin a config file called? |
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| 01:12.49 | RichiH | !reinstall grub is <reply> boot a cd like knoppix or grml, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map) |
| 01:12.50 | dpkg | ...but reinstall grub is already something else... |
| 01:12.58 | RichiH | argh, damnation! |
| 01:13.02 | Tramp | Ace2016: If grub is in the MBR (where it should be) just save the MBR. Later boot from a CD and restore the MBR. |
| 01:13.02 | RichiH | !reinstall grub |
| 01:13.02 | dpkg | hmm... reinstall grub is documented at http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover and http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html, or <fixmbr> |
| 01:13.06 | Ace2016 | you know what i think i'll just windows xp |
| 01:13.20 | RichiH | !reinstall grub is also boot a cd like knoppix or grml, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map) |
| 01:13.20 | dpkg | RichiH: okay |
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| 01:13.23 | RichiH | !reinstall grub |
| 01:13.23 | dpkg | from memory, reinstall grub is documented at http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover and http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html, or <fixmbr> |
| 01:13.27 | Ace2016 | Tramp: i heard about this, how do i do it |
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| 01:14.34 | Tramp | Ace2016: dd if=/dev/<disk with grub in mbr, e.g. hda> of=myfile bs=512 count=1 |
| 01:15.23 | Ace2016 | so i run: dd if=/dev/<hda> of=myfile bs=512 count=1 |
| 01:15.50 | YGingras__ | apt don't want to install both postfix and exim but I want different MTA on different IPs, should I --force apt? |
| 01:16.31 | Tramp | Ace2016: without the <> around hda 8) -- if hda is the disk from which you boot. |
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| 01:17.06 | Ace2016 | so how do i restore it |
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| 01:17.23 | Tramp | RichiH: I think what you want to add is almost exactly the same as the "fixmbr" factoid |
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| 01:17.25 | astra-x | If i set in my xorg.conf file the scan frequencies for my monitor and yet it dispays frequencies above that, what does that mean and how do i fix it? |
| 01:17.40 | Ace2016 | you edit the config file? |
| 01:17.46 | Torgo | abrotman! Guru of gurus. Thanks again. |
| 01:17.47 | RichiH | !fixmbr |
| 01:17.47 | dpkg | So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub" |
| 01:17.48 | astra-x | i did |
| 01:17.49 | astra-x | already |
| 01:18.09 | astra-x | i set the set the scan frequencies and yet it still does something else |
| 01:18.14 | Tramp | Ace2016: Boot from livecd, mount the partition with "myfile" and run the same command, with the arguments to if and of swapped |
| 01:18.14 | dhe | I had made a list of all installed programs with "dpkg -l". Now i have reinstalled my pc. How can i reinstall that programs in my list without easy? |
| 01:18.16 | RichiH | Tramp: true |
| 01:18.34 | dhe | -without |
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| 01:19.46 | Tramp | Ace2016: then reboot and add an entry for Win* in the menu.lst of grub (this use-case is given as example in the grub manual)) |
| 01:20.44 | Ace2016 | ok sweet, i really hope its a problem with vista and not my motherboard |
| 01:21.32 | mbroeker | dhe, cat dpkg.log | awk '{ print "apt-get install " $2 }' |
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| 01:22.49 | Torgo | Currently running Debian Woody, trying to install Ubuntu using debootstrap. It checks dependencies, downloads and extracts everything just fine. "chroot /target /bin/bash" fails with "FATAL: kernel too old". Can I update the kernel I'm using in Woody (currently 2.2.20) or do I need to update my Debian version? |
| 01:24.34 | Ace2016 | is it possible to get linux to output info about bios and whats in the flash memory |
| 01:24.57 | azeem | Torgo: woody supports 2.4 kernels at least |
| 01:25.04 | azeem | Torgo: but that is still too old for Ubuntu |
| 01:25.17 | azeem | so I suggest upgrading to sargen and then to etch |
| 01:25.43 | dhe | mbroeker: thx |
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| 01:26.20 | Torgo | azeem: I think I just need to get chroot to work, then run base-config. So how do I update my kernel? apt-get update && apt-get upgrade didn't do it. |
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| 01:31.16 | Rickyban | nobody knows the name of that CLI utility that paste stuff to rafb.net? |
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| 01:31.52 | azeem | Torgo: woody does not ship 2.6 kernels |
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| 01:32.07 | unixserverprojek | hi@all |
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| 01:33.02 | unixserverprojek | i am going to make a new website itīs called unixserverprojekt and i am searching for german people who want help that projekt |
| 01:33.07 | Torgo | azeem: that's fine. So since Ubuntu is using 2.6, I'll need a 2.6 running for chroot to work. Great. So then your path of woody->sarge->etch seems reasonable. Got a URL handy for that procedure? |
| 01:33.16 | azeem | unixserverprojek: ask elsewhere |
| 01:33.22 | azeem | Torgo: for what procedure? |
| 01:33.33 | Torgo | woody to sarge to etch, azeem |
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| 01:33.59 | azeem | Torgo: search for the sarge release notes, follow them; then search for the etch release, follow them |
| 01:34.09 | Torgo | azeem: excellent. Thanks. |
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| 01:34.31 | unixserverprojek | so what about that idea? |
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| 01:34.49 | azeem | unixserverprojek: it's off-topic here |
| 01:34.57 | unixserverprojek | k |
| 01:34.59 | unixserverprojek | sry |
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| 01:37.16 | astra-x | If i set in my xorg.conf file the scan frequencies for my monitor and yet it dispays frequencies above that, what does that mean and how do i fix it? (I have set the correct frequencies in /etc/X11/xorg.conf) |
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| 01:38.12 | Tramp | Rickyban: somebody needed some help a couple of days ago with a little script that did such pasting with the helpof curl. Dunno if that is what you mean. |
| 01:38.39 | mbroeker | astra-x, first, make sure, that your xerver uses that fixed frequencies. |
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| 01:39.12 | vlt | Hello. I have a Debian Etch server I wanna move to new hardware. When I boot (from GRUB) the kernel says "hda: lost interrupt" several times. I don't know if it's still the kernel loading or already in initrd. Any idea what to check first? |
| 01:39.53 | eth01 | why is the httpd.conf blank in debian etch? |
| 01:40.02 | Tramp | Rickyban: I just pastebined it with itself here: http://rafb.net/p/BjkxC187.html |
| 01:40.24 | vlt | eth01: should be apache.conf or something like that |
| 01:41.16 | astra-x | mbroeker: how do i do that? |
| 01:41.56 | mbroeker | astra-x, well i wanted to look it up in the Xorg.0.log file but the information isn't there. :) |
| 01:42.33 | uzbek | how can i join partitions? |
| 01:42.54 | astra-x | wheres does it dump the xorg.0.log? |
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| 01:43.16 | azeem | astra-x: /var/log |
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| 01:46.26 | astra-x | what is the best way to dump the log file into a pastebin from the command line? |
| 01:47.07 | mbroeker | astra-x, you will need a paste script |
| 01:47.43 | Tramp | just pasted one 15 lines above |
| 01:51.18 | uzbek | i thought joining two partitions is easy job in linux. Im afraid i was wrong |
| 01:52.20 | Tramp | joining partitions is easy. It's the filesystem stuff that is hard. |
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| 01:54.02 | uzbek | i have two unallocated partitions, i can use whatever filesystem for them. so can't see file system problem here Tramp |
| 01:54.17 | uzbek | *so I can't see |
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| 01:56.00 | vlt | Is it principally not a good idea to change the hardware of an installed Debian or did something special go wrong here? |
| 01:56.13 | Tramp | uzbek: well, iirc your problem is that ther is a third partition, with an FS on it, inbetween the two |
| 01:56.55 | vlt | uzbek: You could use LVM. |
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| 01:57.12 | eth01 | the correct way of changing your hostname is...? |
| 01:57.21 | uzbek | vlt what is that? gparted-like thing? |
| 01:57.36 | vlt | !lvm | uzbek |
| 01:57.45 | vlt | !lvm > uzbek |
| 01:57.55 | vlt | !lvm |
| 01:57.55 | dpkg | i heard lvm is at http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, Logical Volume Manager for Linux, or ask me about <lvm_tutorial>, or extremely sexy. almost as sexy as Theo |
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| 01:58.23 | Tramp | !tell eth01 about hostname |
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| 01:59.33 | The_Ultimate_Sam | this is odd...i have been setting up a remote connection between a laptop and my desktop. the laptop had connected properly to the desktop before but now stalls until i have to kill it with control + c |
| 01:59.50 | The_Ultimate_Sam | and i still cant get a connection the other way (says connection refused) |
| 02:00.14 | The_Ultimate_Sam | can anyone help? |
| 02:00.40 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: iptables rules that permit non-related incoming packets? |
| 02:00.52 | The_Ultimate_Sam | hm? |
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| 02:01.51 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: `iptables -nvL INPUT` |
| 02:02.56 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok... |
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| 02:03.17 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i assume you wanted me to put that in while the other one was failing to make a connection right... |
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| 02:03.48 | The_Ultimate_Sam | it seems to be giving me this when i do: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 8 packets, 466 bytes) |
| 02:03.55 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but each time its a dif number of packets |
| 02:04.06 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: No, that just shows you if there are any rules ... |
| 02:04.07 | The_Ultimate_Sam | its at 31 right now.. |
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| 02:04.39 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: but there are none |
| 02:04.51 | The_Ultimate_Sam | it doesnt seem so.. |
| 02:05.07 | The_Ultimate_Sam | there is: pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination |
| 02:05.17 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but i dont think those are rules... |
| 02:05.59 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: The fact that there are only a few packets shown tells me that the iptables module wasn't loaded at all before you first run that command (which isn't a problem) |
| 02:06.06 | simonrvn | no, they're not. a rules would look something like this: |
| 02:06.25 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ah...is that why the number keeps going up? |
| 02:06.26 | simonrvn | 1 4508 217236 DROP tcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 multiport dports 135,136,137,138,139 |
| 02:06.50 | stiv2k | help wtf is going on, all of a sudden i cant stream any music from my server without it cutting out every 5 seconds |
| 02:06.57 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: Which ip protocol are you using to connect? TCP? |
| 02:07.06 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: And what port? |
| 02:07.13 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i'm using SSH |
| 02:07.16 | The_Ultimate_Sam | port 22 |
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| 02:07.31 | The_Ultimate_Sam | the client is local |
| 02:07.38 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: You're sure ssh is listening on that port? |
| 02:07.53 | The_Ultimate_Sam | mine should be...it successfully connected before |
| 02:08.07 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: You're sure ssh is listening on that port NOW? |
| 02:08.23 | eth01 | i changed my hostname on my box, rebooted, and it's not changed? :/ |
| 02:08.25 | simonrvn | nmap host_ip -p 22 |
| 02:08.41 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i connected to myself.. |
| 02:08.49 | simonrvn | eth01: just setting it via `hostname' is temporary |
| 02:08.52 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: successfully? |
| 02:08.56 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes |
| 02:08.57 | eth01 | simonrvn: i did all. |
| 02:09.12 | simonrvn | all what? |
| 02:09.16 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: `netstat -tulpen | grep 22` |
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| 02:09.58 | The_Ultimate_Sam | what am i looking for here? |
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| 02:10.25 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: A line that tells you the ip and port ssh is listening on. |
| 02:10.46 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i see sshd listening...on port 22... |
| 02:10.53 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: ip? |
| 02:11.09 | eth01 | simonrvn: i did all the steps to change the hostname ;) |
| 02:11.22 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: Sometimes I have the problme that ssh doesn't listen to a certain device when it was not up when ssh loaded |
| 02:11.22 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i think all |
| 02:11.24 | The_Ultimate_Sam | tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN 0 8996 2732/sshd |
| 02:11.40 | simonrvn | eth01: edit /etc/hostname /etc/hosts /etc/sysctl.conf ? |
| 02:12.21 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: Look ok |
| 02:12.25 | vlt | looks |
| 02:12.36 | eth01 | simonrvn: i've done /etc/hostname && /etc/hosts ... sysctl.conf > #kernel.domainname = example.com |
| 02:12.48 | vlt | can you install ngrep or tcpdump? |
| 02:12.56 | simonrvn | eth01: stscyl.conf isn't essential |
| 02:13.02 | simonrvn | sysctl* |
| 02:13.09 | eth01 | everytime i reboot, it just goes back to 'devel'. |
| 02:13.32 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok well i see why i get a connection refuse on the laptop...it isnt listening |
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| 02:13.53 | The_Ultimate_Sam | though im not sure why the laptop hangs when trying to connect to the desktop |
| 02:14.01 | The_Ultimate_Sam | how do i make the laptop listen |
| 02:14.08 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: It is: ":::22" listens to all IPs |
| 02:14.18 | simonrvn | eth01: hm, try editing that then, i know it works ok. also, you sure /etc/hosts is edited? check, oh, maybe check that z25 factoid |
| 02:14.36 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but i mean...how do i tell it to tell SSH to listen? |
| 02:14.38 | eth01 | !z25 |
| 02:14.39 | dpkg | z25 is probably as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. If you don't want udev to touch your interface names, remove that file and z45_persistent-net-generator.rules in the same directory. |
| 02:14.55 | simonrvn | oh nm then, forget it |
| 02:14.56 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: It already does. |
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| 02:15.07 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: sshd is process id 2732 |
| 02:15.14 | The_Ultimate_Sam | no my laptop, i showed the output from my desktop |
| 02:15.39 | simonrvn | eth01: kernel.hostname = foo ; kernel.domainname = bar.tld |
| 02:15.40 | The_Ultimate_Sam | the output from the laptop under the same command gives a dif result and doesnt have SSH listening |
| 02:15.46 | vlt | \(O_O)/ |
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| 02:15.58 | eth01 | simonrvn: /etc/hosts > 127.0.0.1 devel localhost localhost.localdomain .... |
| 02:16.18 | simonrvn | you need to change the 'devel' to whatever you need |
| 02:16.20 | eth01 | simonrvn: /etc/hostname > devel |
| 02:16.35 | simonrvn | same for that |
| 02:16.39 | eth01 | simonrvn: i have done that, though. however, when i reboot it just goes back to 'devel'. |
| 02:16.44 | The_Ultimate_Sam | this is kinda a two part problem |
| 02:16.58 | simonrvn | eth01: etch? |
| 02:17.01 | eth01 | etch. |
| 02:17.04 | The_Ultimate_Sam | there is the problem that the laptop hangs when it tries to connect to the desktop |
| 02:17.08 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: start sshd |
| 02:17.11 | simonrvn | ok sec |
| 02:17.18 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: or install if not already |
| 02:17.34 | The_Ultimate_Sam | it should be installed since i have been using it |
| 02:17.46 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: sshD? |
| 02:17.59 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: ssh != sshd |
| 02:18.12 | The_Ultimate_Sam | hmm |
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| 02:18.23 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: ssh is the client |
| 02:18.40 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: sshd the "server" (daemon) |
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| 02:19.00 | simonrvn | eth01: /etc/init.d/hostname.sh seems to fuck with it |
| 02:19.04 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok...so it may not be installed...whereis sshd returned nothing |
| 02:19.32 | The_Ultimate_Sam | apt-get install sshd didnt do anything though... |
| 02:19.36 | c_ozzie | hi, can someone tell me what package the userspace inb/outb are in? |
| 02:19.41 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: run ssh with options -vv to see what it does when it "hangs" |
| 02:19.55 | eth01 | simonrvn: what do i do with that then? |
| 02:20.29 | simonrvn | eth01: change your files again, then run that with stop, reboot |
| 02:20.51 | simonrvn | detaching |
| 02:20.54 | The_Ultimate_Sam | reading config, applying options for * ssh_connect needpriv 0 connecting to on port 22 |
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| 02:21.08 | eth01 | simonrvn: i'm using this btw, priv.corp.unspecific.net ... would that be accepted? |
| 02:21.13 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: The pkg name is "ssh-server" or something like that. `aptitude search ssh` |
| 02:22.40 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: It's "openssh-server" actually |
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| 02:23.02 | vlt | Is it principally not a good idea to change the hardware of an installed Debian or did something special go wrong here? |
| 02:23.31 | vlt | When I boot (from GRUB) the kernel says "hda: lost interrupt" several times. I don't know if it's still the kernel loading or already in initrd. Any idea what to check first? |
| 02:23.40 | h3sp4wn | vlt: shouldn't be a problem unless you were using a k7 kernel and switched to intel or something similar |
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| 02:24.00 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: What happens when you "telnet <desktop> 22"? |
| 02:24.27 | The_Ultimate_Sam | never tried it before...*tries now* |
| 02:24.37 | eth01 | i've used stop on hostname.sh and rebooted, and it's still showing as devel, and not the other hostname i specified... |
| 02:25.02 | The_Ultimate_Sam | have to install telnet |
| 02:25.13 | vlt | h3sp4wn: It is a -686 kernel, switched from athlonXP to athlon64/X2 |
| 02:25.20 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: do you have netcat instead? |
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| 02:25.27 | vlt | The_Ultimate_Sam: I think you just have to install sshd on the server. |
| 02:25.42 | vlt | Tramp: ^ |
| 02:26.01 | Tramp | vlt: but didn't he confirm, that on the Desktop he has a Listener? |
| 02:26.33 | vlt | Tramp: Yes, but he wants to connect to the laptop ;) |
| 02:26.57 | Tramp | vlt: I'm confused ... I thought laptop->desktop = "hangs" |
| 02:27.06 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok, installing the sshd allowed the desktop to connect to the laptop |
| 02:27.14 | vlt | :) |
| 02:27.23 | Tramp | and the other way? |
| 02:27.33 | The_Ultimate_Sam | the other way...not |
| 02:27.34 | vlt | worked before, I think |
| 02:27.41 | The_Ultimate_Sam | what is this needpiv 0 |
| 02:27.42 | vlt | ??? |
| 02:27.43 | Tramp | that's what I meant. |
| 02:27.49 | The_Ultimate_Sam | privlage issue? |
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| 02:28.21 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: do the netcat/telnet and show me output of "lsof -itcp:22" on the desktop |
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| 02:29.14 | The_Ultimate_Sam | telnet on the laptop gave connection refused |
| 02:29.22 | The_Ultimate_Sam | connecting from laptop to desktop |
| 02:29.22 | vlt | h3sp4wn: Any idea what causes these "hda: interrupt lost" messages? |
| 02:29.31 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but the desktop doesnt have telnet |
| 02:29.36 | The_Ultimate_Sam | could that be the reason for that? |
| 02:29.43 | h3sp4wn | vlt: buggy bios maybe - or changing from large mode to lba or something like that |
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| 02:30.09 | h3sp4wn | vlt: can you boot a livecd successfully ? or the install cd without getting them ? |
| 02:31.27 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: telnet <desktop> 22 from the laptop |
| 02:31.42 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i did that |
| 02:31.46 | The_Ultimate_Sam | connection refused |
| 02:31.53 | The_Ultimate_Sam | wait... |
| 02:32.10 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok... |
| 02:32.14 | The_Ultimate_Sam | forgot the port |
| 02:32.27 | The_Ultimate_Sam | says connected |
| 02:32.55 | The_Ultimate_Sam | says ssh-2.0-Openssh_4 6p1 Debian-5 |
| 02:33.38 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: ok. So you have a listener (sshd) on the desktop. |
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| 02:33.57 | The_Ultimate_Sam | didnt we established that already with the netstat? |
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| 02:34.32 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: Yes. But I didn't believe it 8) - there was too much confusion with desktop/laptop works not /hangs going on. |
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| 02:34.33 | The_Ultimate_Sam | is this needpriv 0 a problem the laptop gives it but the desktop doesnt |
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| 02:35.39 | The_Ultimate_Sam | it gives it right before hanging on the connecting to <desktop> port 22 |
| 02:35.47 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: No. I don't know, what it means but I see it too (on a working connection) |
| 02:37.15 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: For a test: Connect to the IP instead of the name. Does something change? |
| 02:37.28 | The_Ultimate_Sam | hmm..ive been connecting to the ip |
| 02:37.42 | The_Ultimate_Sam | maybe i should try connecting to the name then? |
| 02:38.14 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: no, this will not improve the situation. |
| 02:39.00 | The_Ultimate_Sam | no id doesnt seem to, actually it made it more complicated by using the external ip instead of the internal one |
| 02:39.14 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: can the desktop reverse-resolve the laptop? |
| 02:39.29 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ? |
| 02:39.50 | The_Ultimate_Sam | like...connect to the laptop, and then connect to the desktop from that connection? |
| 02:39.55 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: does (on the desktop) "host <ip of laptop>" resolve to a name? |
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| 02:40.29 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: if not (what I assume) add an entry for the laptop in the /etc/hosts file of the desktop |
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| 02:41.14 | The_Ultimate_Sam | hmm... |
| 02:41.24 | Claudio32m | when i leave my putty term connected to debian box with 5 or more minutes of inactivity on the keyboard it loses the connection, is this a putty or debian setting? |
| 02:41.27 | The_Ultimate_Sam | even my own ip doesnt resolve to a name with host |
| 02:41.37 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: the sshd Server tries to reverse-lookup the name of the client. If it fails, it will continue - but only after a long timeout |
| 02:41.40 | The_Ultimate_Sam | (note: talking about 192.168.1.202) |
| 02:42.18 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: how is the desktop supposed to do dns-lookups? |
| 02:42.28 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i have no idea |
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| 02:43.03 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: do as I told you. Add an entry for the laptop into /etc/hosts and retry. |
| 02:43.15 | The_Ultimate_Sam | what kind of entry? |
| 02:43.51 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: something like "192.168.x.y mylaptop.mydomain" |
| 02:44.16 | vn | hi, I just noticed that in my fstab after an error...do I have other solutions than a reboot? : /dev/hda2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 02:44.42 | The_Ultimate_Sam | how do i get its domain |
| 02:45.01 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: or set "UseDNS no" in the sshd_config of the desktop |
| 02:45.23 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i like that one better... |
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| 02:45.32 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: well, for this use-case you can basically put anything there, as long as the IP of the laptop is rightt |
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| 02:49.04 | onur | Hi. I want to run cvs with pserver. Cvs is saying: cvs [pserver aborted]: bad auth protocol start. I searched google. All documents saying, this is about from inet. But my inet working great on 2401 port. Where is the problem? Do you have any idea? |
| 02:49.39 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok, do i have to restart it or something...or does the changes take place automatically (sshd_config) |
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| 02:50.43 | The_Ultimate_Sam | for that matter...how do i restart the sshd? |
| 02:51.10 | mbroeker | onur, whats your commandline? |
| 02:51.36 | onur | cvs -f --allow-root=/var/cvs/root pserver |
| 02:51.49 | onur | i tried cvsd |
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| 02:52.21 | onur | it's say: cvs [pserver aborted]: bad auth protocol start when i connecting to my host on 2401 port via telnet |
| 02:52.46 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 02:52.49 | wols | onur: shouldn't you |
| 02:53.07 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: and yes, you have to restart |
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| 02:53.49 | The_Ultimate_Sam | still hanging... |
| 02:54.52 | mbroeker | onur, you cannot telnet to your service. |
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| 02:55.12 | onur | mbroeker: cvs doesnt connect to my pserver |
| 02:55.41 | mbroeker | onur, try something like this: export CVSROOT=":pserver:onur@localhost:/development" && cvs login |
| 02:55.44 | onur | i connect with telnetto to find error |
| 02:55.53 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: leave it hanging. It should progress after a while if my assumption is right |
| 02:55.53 | onur | mbroeker: it's say |
| 02:56.00 | onur | cvs login: authorization failed: server 192.168.1.2 rejected access to /var/cvs/root for user onur |
| 02:56.09 | The_Ultimate_Sam | what would be a good amount of time to wait? |
| 02:56.23 | ohokthen | ohai, i have a debian box on my private 192 network behind a debian router/firewall |
| 02:56.29 | ohokthen | I would like to ssh into this box through my debian firewall |
| 02:56.33 | ohokthen | what is the best way to do this? |
| 02:56.38 | The_Ultimate_Sam | connection to host timed out |
| 02:56.50 | onur | and /var/log/cvsd.log cvsd: cvs command exited with exit-status 1 |
| 02:57.50 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: ok. Can you watch laptop and desktop at the same time? |
| 02:57.58 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes |
| 02:58.03 | The_Ultimate_Sam | its sitting right next to me |
| 02:58.15 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: ok. /etc/init.d/ssh stop on the desktop |
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| 02:58.40 | The_Ultimate_Sam | k |
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| 02:58.53 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: now "/usr/sbin/sshd -d" on the desktop |
| 02:59.13 | onur | 'CVS's pserver is for anonymous access only.' is that true? |
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| 02:59.45 | The_Ultimate_Sam | k.. |
| 03:00.06 | The_Ultimate_Sam | curious bit here... |
| 03:00.19 | The_Ultimate_Sam | "Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use." |
| 03:00.41 | Tramp | huh? lsof -itcp:22 |
| 03:01.02 | mbroeker | onur, edit your /var/cvs/root/CVSROOT/ readers and writers file and try again |
| 03:01.03 | The_Ultimate_Sam | returned nothing |
| 03:01.28 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: you run all this stuff as root, right? |
| 03:01.29 | onur | ok |
| 03:01.32 | mbroeker | onur, and of course, your passwd file |
| 03:01.34 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes |
| 03:01.40 | The_Ultimate_Sam | should i run as user? |
| 03:02.08 | Tramp | no |
| 03:02.23 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: Ctrl-C the sshd-command |
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| 03:02.47 | onur | mbroeker: i create password with cvsd-password /var/cvs/root onur |
| 03:02.53 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ssshd-command? |
| 03:03.08 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: ah - it failed and returned to shell, right. |
| 03:03.22 | The_Ultimate_Sam | it failed and kinda...hung there |
| 03:03.27 | The_Ultimate_Sam | so i control c'd it |
| 03:03.34 | The_Ultimate_Sam | oh...i get it know |
| 03:03.40 | The_Ultimate_Sam | (i was thinking copy...) |
| 03:03.58 | mbroeker | onur, should work |
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| 03:04.23 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yeah i control-c'd it to kill it...because after the fail it just..hung there |
| 03:04.33 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: hmm. Just retry it once (/usr/sbin/sshd -d) - same result? |
| 03:04.37 | onur | mbroeker: it didn't work |
| 03:04.54 | The_Ultimate_Sam | mhm, already retried it with the same results |
| 03:05.33 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: weird. netstat -nlp | grep ssh? |
| 03:05.37 | The_Ultimate_Sam | interestingly nfs works fine...not sure if that is important |
| 03:06.07 | mbroeker | onur, echo "onur:MdcMhTWM1X8kM:cvsd" >> passwd |
| 03:06.17 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i show two ssh running... |
| 03:06.31 | The_Ultimate_Sam | should they be doing that after i sent the stop? |
| 03:06.33 | mbroeker | onur, your pwd is just <enter> |
| 03:06.45 | The_Ultimate_Sam | unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 10840 3594/ssh-agent /tmp/ssh-WNefln3523/agent.3523 |
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| 03:07.05 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: nope, that's something else. |
| 03:07.08 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: weird. netstat -nlp | grep sshd? |
| 03:07.18 | The_Ultimate_Sam | nothing |
| 03:08.12 | onur | it didn't worked mbroeker |
| 03:08.33 | onur | maybe i must use ext or something whitout pserver |
| 03:08.34 | mbroeker | onur, and your username "onur" must be present in readers or writers. restart cvsd and it should work |
| 03:08.38 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: uhrgs. Can you pastebin the output of /usr/sbin/sshd -d? |
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| 03:10.26 | The_Ultimate_Sam | http://pastebin.com/m398a5572 |
| 03:10.29 | onur | mbroeker: it didnt worked. Wait i'll paste all of my conf files |
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| 03:11.05 | mbroeker | onur, check permissions: http://rafb.net/p/4le2V985.html |
| 03:12.18 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: ok. leave as it is. It's listening to something. Now connect from your laptop |
| 03:12.58 | The_Ultimate_Sam | same as before |
| 03:13.32 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: yes, but something should happen in the server window |
| 03:13.55 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: or? |
| 03:14.24 | The_Ultimate_Sam | im not seeing anything |
| 03:15.02 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: Do you want to listen sshd on all interfaces or is the internal IF enough? |
| 03:15.27 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ? |
| 03:15.47 | The_Ultimate_Sam | im afraid i dont quite know what that means... |
| 03:15.51 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: you said before your desktop has two interfaces, didn't you? |
| 03:16.17 | The_Ultimate_Sam | two interfaces? define an interface |
| 03:16.43 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: well - network cards, usually IPs (internal/external or something like that) |
| 03:17.04 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i have just the one network card, i have a router |
| 03:17.19 | The_Ultimate_Sam | which connects to other machines on the local network |
| 03:17.25 | The_Ultimate_Sam | with the 192.168.1.* |
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| 03:17.44 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: ok. Edit the sshd_config again. There should be a line "ListenAddress" |
| 03:17.51 | The_Ultimate_Sam | and the external ip which is the ip of the router and all computers seen from the net |
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| 03:18.28 | onur | mbroeker: http://pastebin.com/m284258bf |
| 03:18.30 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes |
| 03:18.36 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: ah well. Then I misunderstood something. No big deal. So the desktop has only 1 IPO |
| 03:18.36 | The_Ultimate_Sam | two of em |
| 03:18.38 | Tramp | IP |
| 03:18.38 | The_Ultimate_Sam | commented |
| 03:18.54 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes...only the one |
| 03:19.08 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: fine. uncomment the one with "0.0.0.0" and instead that put the IP of the desktop there |
| 03:19.45 | mbroeker | onur, your repo is /root |
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| 03:19.51 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: The desktop has a static IP? |
| 03:19.58 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes |
| 03:20.00 | mbroeker | onur, its a server directory in the chroot |
| 03:20.03 | The_Ultimate_Sam | the laptop is dynamic |
| 03:20.11 | The_Ultimate_Sam | because i eventualy have to give it back to its owner |
| 03:20.22 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: that's find. So put the IP of the desktop in place of 0.0.0.0. |
| 03:20.40 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok...done... |
| 03:20.59 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: ok. Start the "...sshd -d" once more |
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| 03:21.32 | onur | mbroeker: if i change the root to /root, cvs is saying when i want to connect: cvs [login aborted]: unrecognized auth response from 192.168.1.2: cvs [pserver aborted]: /var/cvs/root: no such repository |
| 03:21.32 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok |
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| 03:21.41 | The_Ultimate_Sam | says listening |
| 03:21.47 | The_Ultimate_Sam | should i try to connect now? |
| 03:22.06 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: now I hope it says "Bind to port 22 of <IP>" or something like that - no error anymore, right? |
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| 03:22.29 | onur | if i try to connect /root its say: cvs login: authorization failed: server 192.168.1.2 rejected access to /root for user onur |
| 03:22.36 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes |
| 03:22.38 | The_Ultimate_Sam | no error |
| 03:22.39 | onur | ufff |
| 03:22.49 | mbroeker | onur, is there a repo at /var/cvs/root ? |
| 03:22.51 | onur | sorry wrong password |
| 03:22.55 | onur | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.55 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: Fine. Now connect from the laptop agin (with -v again) |
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| 03:23.09 | onur | cvs -d :pserver:onur@192.168.1.2:/root login |
| 03:23.10 | mbroeker | yes it works now, onur |
| 03:23.16 | onur | thank you very much mbroeker |
| 03:23.43 | mbroeker | onur, my paypal account is in MY repo. Do you want to have an account? |
| 03:23.49 | The_Ultimate_Sam | still hangs |
| 03:24.04 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: and the server doesn't say a thing? |
| 03:24.08 | The_Ultimate_Sam | should i have my sshd on or off? |
| 03:24.26 | The_Ultimate_Sam | nope...server just sits there "listening" |
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| 03:24.33 | onur | no thanks mbroeker |
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| 03:24.59 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: this cannot be. kill the client on the laptop and run the "telnet <desktop> 22 again" |
| 03:25.49 | The_Ultimate_Sam | kill the client on the laptop? |
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| 03:26.23 | vvn | hi, how can I reboot remotely a computer on which the root fs is in ro mode? |
| 03:26.36 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: well, yes, the ssh which hangs |
| 03:26.44 | mbroeker | gg |
| 03:27.48 | mbroeker | vvn, and the /var and is in ro too? |
| 03:28.12 | The_Ultimate_Sam | telnet couldnt connect... |
| 03:28.13 | vvn | they all in / |
| 03:28.20 | The_Ultimate_Sam | hmm |
| 03:28.49 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok...i ran the ssh -d and tried again |
| 03:28.53 | The_Ultimate_Sam | and now it connected |
| 03:28.57 | mbroeker | vvn, as the superuser root, you can mount -o remount,rw / ? |
| 03:29.19 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: and the server said "Connection from ..." |
| 03:29.38 | The_Ultimate_Sam | Connection from 192.168.1.201 port 33168 |
| 03:29.40 | vvn | I just did |
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| 03:29.50 | vvn | and it just disconnected me from ssh |
| 03:29.51 | Azar | hello honorables! |
| 03:29.58 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: but when you run ssh on the Laptop (and keep the sshd -d running of course!) it (the sshd) just sits there??? |
| 03:30.09 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes |
| 03:31.09 | The_Ultimate_Sam | whats this port 33168? |
| 03:31.12 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: Look at the ssh_config on the laptop and see, if there is an unusual "Port" specified |
| 03:31.23 | vvn | and then all services are non-responsive |
| 03:31.24 | vvn | :\ |
| 03:31.35 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: irrelevant. The ephemeral port from which the telnet connects. |
| 03:31.37 | mbroeker | vvn, the only possible reason for that is, that there was a running shutdown. |
| 03:31.44 | vvn | oh |
| 03:31.47 | vvn | there was |
| 03:31.48 | vvn | thanks! |
| 03:32.16 | vvn | gotta wait |
| 03:32.47 | vvn | if I ghost my linux to another disk and migrate this disk to another machine...will my stuff work? |
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| 03:33.18 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: When you run the ssh -v on the Laptop, it says "Connecting to <IP of Desktop> Port 22"? |
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| 03:33.41 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes |
| 03:33.50 | mbroeker | re |
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| 03:34.32 | andre_ | hello |
| 03:34.34 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: I go crazy. Do you have tcpdump on the Desktop? |
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| 03:35.04 | The_Ultimate_Sam | nope |
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| 03:36.35 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: and neither on the laptop? |
| 03:36.52 | The_Ultimate_Sam | nope |
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| 03:38.00 | spanther | many thanks at the lenny team what made it possible that my win-tv nova-t dvb-t usb-stick runs well :-) |
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| 03:38.39 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: Ok, one last thing before I give up. Start sshd -d on the server |
| 03:38.58 | The_Ultimate_Sam | on the laptop? |
| 03:39.03 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: no, the desktop |
| 03:39.11 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ive been running it on the desktop |
| 03:39.25 | vlt | h3sp4wn: I'm back. I tried booting from a live cd. I couldn't find my Etch install cd, so I took another one (R-I-P w/ 2.6.21): http://rafb.net/p/QAou3a22.html |
| 03:39.27 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: so it is still running and listening? |
| 03:39.56 | The_Ultimate_Sam | oh...i see what you mean...ok i started it |
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| 03:39.59 | vlt | h3sp4wn: This is dmesg output, no errors. I could acces /dev/hda quite fine. |
| 03:40.08 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i thought you meant as a change of pace... |
| 03:40.14 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: on the laptop run "ssh -v -p 22 <ip of desktop>" |
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| 03:41.05 | The_Ultimate_Sam | and its hanging...and the server doesnt hear it... |
| 03:41.23 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: Ctrl-C the ssh on the laptop |
| 03:41.30 | The_Ultimate_Sam | k |
| 03:41.36 | vlt | h3sp4wn: Then I wanted to make a dmesg sump when booting Debian from hda but didn't get far enough because of all the "hda: lost interrupt" (and hdc, too, now that I connected a cdrom) |
| 03:41.42 | vlt | dump* |
| 03:42.05 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: and just to drive me crazy, run telnet <ip of desktop> 22 on the laptop |
| 03:42.44 | The_Ultimate_Sam | Connection from 192.168.1.201 port 60933 |
| 03:44.05 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ^_^;; |
| 03:44.10 | The_Ultimate_Sam | maybe a reboot would help |
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| 03:44.17 | The_Ultimate_Sam | uptime on my desktop is like 9 days |
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| 03:44.33 | The_Ultimate_Sam | and there is an error constantly going off in the background every few second about my dvd player... |
| 03:44.46 | hikenboot | greetings /lib/udev/vol_id -u /dev/sda1 gives me a UUID however when I try and mount it under chroot it says it doesnt exist ..anyone know why |
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| 03:45.37 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i'll try that...thanks though tramp for the help...at least i have connection to the laptop...which is important since i will mostly be running the laptop headless anyways |
| 03:46.02 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but i suspect it needs a connection the other way to send data back... |
| 03:46.14 | The_Ultimate_Sam | so...im not sure...well imma try the reboot... |
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| 03:46.46 | vlt | Any idea why Debian's 2.6.18 won't boot on the new mainboard (while live cd and a 2.6.15 from ubuntu both work fine)? |
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| 03:48.41 | vlt | On the old hardware it works (a bit slow but) ok. |
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| 03:52.14 | maynard | Hello |
| 03:52.20 | maynard | any females in this channel |
| 03:52.45 | wols | do you have a debian question |
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| 03:53.25 | wols | vlt: which mainboard? chipset? cdrom controller? |
| 03:53.57 | Azar | wols: nice reply :) |
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| 03:54.58 | maynard | girls who use irc |
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| 03:55.01 | maynard | have big butts |
| 03:55.06 | maynard | and nice big tits |
| 03:55.06 | Azar | :P |
| 03:55.12 | maynard | gotta love those type of girls aye |
| 03:55.20 | maynard | Nice big ass to hold onto |
| 03:55.23 | spanther | lol? XD |
| 03:55.30 | maynard | wols do u hit that shit? |
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| 03:55.37 | stew | maynard: please keep it on topic. do you actually have a debian question? |
| 03:55.38 | Azar | haha |
| 03:55.54 | spanther | thought this here would be debian related not woman related... |
| 03:56.03 | maynard | stew u'll be a happier person if u smashed a big ass from behind |
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| 03:56.17 | Azar | drunkards leftovers from Saturday |
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| 03:56.49 | spanther | Azar lol :) *knows why hate drunk people* |
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| 03:57.35 | Azar | thank you stew |
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| 03:58.21 | Azar | found an amateur howto site for Lenny's Nvidia RE-installation after kernel upgrade |
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| 03:58.46 | spanther | is there something similiar for ati too Azar? :-) |
| 03:58.47 | Azar | ... hard to read, gray text on black background |
| 03:58.52 | sls_214 | hi |
| 03:58.59 | wols | Azar: simply do a simple sid backport |
| 03:59.02 | Azar | spanther: the guy seems to have some of ATI stuff too |
| 03:59.28 | Azar | wols: yeah, I was wondering why the guy keeps wget from Nvidia site |
| 03:59.32 | sls_214 | I got some problems with my apache2 : CPU: 4.0 Mem.96 % is it also possible to filter the Problem ? to locate the apache/user or whatever who is going to putsch the www-data ? |
| 03:59.38 | wols | Azar: cause he has no clue |
| 03:59.52 | spanther | Azar cause my tower has ATI X850XT PCI-Express card and it is installed now but later i bet there will be a new kernel :-) |
| 04:00.04 | wols | sls_214: ram is always 95%+ used |
| 04:00.18 | sls_214 | I caN't see any logs in VAr/loGS/apache or whatever. . |
| 04:00.27 | wols | spanther: that card should be supported by the radeon driver I thought |
| 04:00.42 | spanther | wols i want 3D :p |
| 04:01.08 | wols | Sir_Sid: which process is using 98% cpu, and for what? |
| 04:01.09 | spanther | x850xt in 2D only mode is a waste lol |
| 04:01.12 | wols | spanther: radeon is 3D capable |
| 04:01.38 | Azar | spanther: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/23/install-proprietary-nvidia-or-ati-drivers-for-debian-or-ubuntu/ |
| 04:01.41 | Sir_Sid | eh? |
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| 04:01.52 | wols | sls_214: which process is using 98% cpu, and for what? |
| 04:02.03 | sls_214 | www-Data => apache2 I don't know for what ;) So I am seeking for some logs.... to know why ... |
| 04:02.03 | Azar | spanther: but I rather listen to wols.. these "tutorials" smell like far away from Debian |
| 04:02.06 | spanther | Azar lool what a cute penguin logo :D |
| 04:02.18 | wols | Azar: best don't tell people about howtos that advocatve using nvidia.com or ati.com installers here |
| 04:02.33 | mbroeker | hikenboot, cd /mnt/chroot/ && tar -cvzf - /dev/ | tar -xvzf - |
| 04:02.36 | Azar | wols: ok , noted |
| 04:02.59 | spanther | wols is that the next step against proprietary drivers? :-) |
| 04:03.09 | Azar | spanther: I surf without images enabled: text only |
| 04:03.19 | wols | Azar: sometimes there is no way around it, eg when sid didn't have support for new cards like the 8600, but rightnow this isn't the case |
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| 04:03.25 | spanther | Azar ouch.. |
| 04:03.30 | itst | can anyone help ? |
| 04:03.31 | itst | pam_quota.c:36:34: error: security/pam_modules.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:03.32 | Azar | spanther: wols is right, Debian does not encourage using proprietary drivers |
| 04:04.01 | wols | itst: install the package that has this header file. check packages.debian.org to see which it is |
| 04:04.17 | Azar | spanther: Debian has very good free drivers... and way of compiling them .. |
| 04:04.23 | wols | Azar: deoebds, sinetunes you have to which is why debian carries them in non-free |
| 04:04.53 | wols | e.h. 3D on nvidia. sometimes you can get by with proprietary or Free both, like with radeon r3xx cards |
| 04:04.53 | spanther | Azar the problem is i've installed the fglrx driver allready :-) |
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| 04:05.16 | wols | s/sinetunes/sometimes |
| 04:05.47 | Azar | spanther: I still keep the 2d nv driver ... waiting patiently for a 3D free driver to come out |
| 04:05.59 | Azar | I got cool games in 2d so eh |
| 04:06.02 | wols | Azar: good luck |
| 04:06.12 | Azar | wols: Nouveau.. |
| 04:06.26 | spanther | Azar and you really think my (not that old) X850XT has free 3D driver allready?? |
| 04:06.39 | hikenboot | mbroeker, didnt help unfortunately |
| 04:06.40 | wols | but hell might even freeze over and pressure from the open specs of amd might lead to something. but I wouldn't hold my breath |
| 04:06.55 | wols | spanther: read what I wrote. it probably does |
| 04:07.00 | Azar | spanther: I guess it not gonna be 100% free, but the ATI/AMD have cracked their door a bit |
| 04:07.16 | wols | spanther: is it a r3xx based chip? |
| 04:07.30 | spanther | wols um i dont know wait let me check |
| 04:07.53 | wols | I know that x800 has free drivers (not from ati) that do 3D. x850 should too, but then: see the clusterfuck naming of videochip makers |
| 04:07.58 | socialist | why are we caring about using proprietary drivers? |
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| 04:08.38 | mbroeker | hikenboot, this command is only helpful if udev created that device already under real /dev |
| 04:08.39 | wols | socialist: cause some people are addicted to hardware acceleration for 3D for their hardware. some people are lucky enough to have free drivers for that, but not all |
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| 04:09.11 | socialist | wols: why not use the ones from the vendors? |
| 04:09.14 | hikenboot | why would one read it exists and the other does not |
| 04:09.25 | spanther | wols its R480 |
| 04:09.34 | Azar | wols: speaking of releasing specs: http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Hyperverbosity-.aspx |
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| 04:10.11 | Azar | socialist: vendors? the ones that crook you around? |
| 04:10.26 | socialist | hehe |
| 04:10.55 | socialist | I'm just playing devils advocate without bothering to read the entire conversation first ;P |
| 04:10.55 | wols | Azar: clearly written by a noncoder PR guy |
| 04:11.00 | wols | lots of words. no content |
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| 04:11.05 | Azar | my PC just creeped out when it felt I got a new fan for the PSI... now the ugly noise stopped |
| 04:11.14 | Azar | haha yep |
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| 04:11.44 | spanther | wols whats with R480 chipset now? :-) |
| 04:11.58 | Azar | you could even hear him saying: but my code is open! the specs are out for anyone to read |
| 04:12.12 | Rickyban | is dpkg different than apt-get (but are the same thing?(package managers))? |
| 04:12.30 | mbroeker | hikenboot, mknod /dev/sda b 8 0 && for i in 1 2 3 4; do mknod /dev/sda$i b 8 $i; done; |
| 04:12.49 | hikenboot | in the chroot our out |
| 04:12.52 | Azar | Rickyban: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/concise-apt-get-dpkg-primer-for-new.html |
| 04:12.55 | ^arky^ | hikenboot, anyone help me configure PD1001 creative webcam please |
| 04:13.00 | mbroeker | hikenboot, in chroot /dev/ |
| 04:13.08 | wols | spanther: sucks to be you and have your hardware :P |
| 04:13.12 | hikenboot | thanks mbroeker |
| 04:13.21 | spanther | wols thank you <.< |
| 04:13.28 | hikenboot | ^arky^, sorry I know nothing about webcams |
| 04:14.11 | wols | !tell ^arky^ about anyone |
| 04:14.13 | hikenboot | mbroeker, says it exists |
| 04:14.31 | socialist | !tell me about anyone |
| 04:14.55 | mbroeker | hikenboot, can you paste ls -al /dev/sda* plz? |
| 04:15.07 | wols | !tell socialist about selftell |
| 04:15.12 | Azar | :) |
| 04:15.26 | spanther | wols what pc could you advise to me with 100% linux compatibility and power for a ordinary price? :-) |
| 04:15.29 | Azar | wols you know somethig? now that I remember... |
| 04:15.35 | socialist | wols: I know I know, I just thought that one sounded funny |
| 04:15.38 | Azar | I first learned Debian from a gentooer |
| 04:15.43 | wols | spanther: build one yourself. neatly avoids the MS tax too |
| 04:16.05 | spanther | wols mh yep got that tax once at my notebook lol but building my own notebook would be a bit hard :-) |
| 04:16.19 | wols | spanther: there are barebones... |
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| 04:16.36 | wols | but pricewise you can't beat the all in one packages with the tax :( |
| 04:16.37 | hikenboot | mbroeker, http://pastebin.com/m3ca0ebca |
| 04:16.45 | wols | on desktops you can and have better quality hw |
| 04:17.01 | socialist | are the penguin systems still really expensive? |
| 04:17.12 | spanther | wols i see :-) |
| 04:17.25 | Azar | socialist: no, but they are best when are custom ordered |
| 04:17.33 | socialist | spanther: http://www.penguincomputing.com |
| 04:17.56 | henno | any procmail/postfix/spamassassin gurus? |
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| 04:18.00 | mbroeker | hikenboot, ok. udev created theese devices with proper permissions. if you can find a filesystem on it, you will be able to mount it. |
| 04:18.00 | henno | I want to invoke procmail (or some other mail filter) to reparse a Maildir using spamassassin |
| 04:18.08 | wols | spanther: an intel based setup with a SB LIve 5.1 should be very linux compatible |
| 04:18.09 | henno | spamassassin fell over, and now I have a few inboxes full of thousands of junk emails |
| 04:18.13 | henno | which I obviously want to rescan and send to /dev/null or .Junk according to it's X-Spam-Status |
| 04:18.30 | hikenboot | ah your saying i forgot to format it? |
| 04:19.02 | wols | hikenboot: did you ever run mkfs on it? |
| 04:19.24 | hikenboot | I thought i did i have done 4 of these flash drives perhaps I missed this one |
| 04:19.32 | spanther | wols ouuch that beats my wallet lol |
| 04:19.33 | wols | hikenboot: run file on it |
| 04:19.53 | wols | spanther: how fat is your wallet? |
| 04:20.04 | spanther | wols not that much *g* |
| 04:20.22 | spanther | 400euro or 500 :-) |
| 04:20.32 | socialist | get a dell with an nvidia |
| 04:20.34 | socialist | :P |
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| 04:20.40 | spanther | dell is expencive X.x |
| 04:20.45 | wols | spanther: then a c2d system is doable |
| 04:20.58 | socialist | spanther: I was mostly kidding |
| 04:21.07 | spanther | socialist i see ^^ |
| 04:21.31 | wols | socialist: why do you say it's expensive? |
| 04:21.50 | wols | spanther: ^^ |
| 04:21.56 | socialist | wols: I didn't, he did |
| 04:22.17 | spanther | wols um at dell the prices arent really cheap :-) |
| 04:22.32 | wols | I didn't say you should buy a dell at all |
| 04:22.42 | spanther | its not like alienware lol but it has his price |
| 04:22.55 | spanther | i know :P |
| 04:22.57 | wols | again: why did you say it "beats my wallet"? |
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| 04:23.28 | vlt | wols: I have a dmesg output a live cd here: http://rafb.net/p/QAou3a22.html and lspci here: http://rafb.net/p/R3HupJ91.html |
| 04:23.46 | spanther | wols cause i dont have that much money :-) |
| 04:23.51 | spanther | (1500$) |
| 04:24.02 | wols | a C2D system doesn't cost 1500$ |
| 04:24.06 | hikenboot | wols, did it changed the UUID remounted it chrooted its there still doesnt see it |
| 04:24.19 | spanther | wols no i've said it about your penguinsystems link at workstations |
| 04:24.19 | wols | it costs half of that. which is bout 500EUR. less if you are frugal |
| 04:24.25 | hikenboot | I am going to call it a bug. the main system is debian but its ubuntu |
| 04:24.42 | wols | I did not link penguinsystems at all. never mentioned it |
| 04:24.42 | hikenboot | going to rebuild it after a reboot see if it clears the problem |
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| 04:25.36 | wols | vlt: on which controller is the CDROM? and how does it "not boot" exactly? where does it stop? |
| 04:25.40 | spanther | oops socialist did post it :D |
| 04:26.05 | hikenboot | nite guys and thanks |
| 04:26.17 | wols | spanther: I told you to buy parts and assembler yourself in which case it's doable |
| 04:26.28 | socialist | spanther: yes, and penguin is not really cheap, just linux-friendly |
| 04:26.30 | spanther | wols yep :-) |
| 04:29.31 | Claudio32m | when i run a script i wrote that tar's my debian system it crashes at a certain point all the time and locks up the system with HEX codes and something about the kernel |
| 04:29.45 | Claudio32m | how can I fix this? is it the HDD or the kernel needs to be updated/replaced? |
| 04:30.04 | socialist | Claudio32m: are you tarring up /proc? |
| 04:30.13 | Claudio32m | i dont think so i --excluded it |
| 04:30.17 | Claudio32m | let me double check |
| 04:30.44 | vlt | wols: The dmesg output I pasted is from a live cd that works fine. When booting from the Debian hd I get lots of "hda: interrupt lost" lines after "hda: max request size: 512KiB" (line 159 in the live cd's output) |
| 04:30.47 | Claudio32m | hang on a few minutes its rebooting |
| 04:31.05 | mbroeker | Claudio32m, sometimes it is useful to exclude the target directory too |
| 04:31.22 | wols | vlt: the live cd kernel, what version? |
| 04:31.28 | socialist | vlt: try booting with "noapic" |
| 04:31.28 | Claudio32m | they're both out |
| 04:31.30 | Claudio32m | i just checked |
| 04:31.38 | vlt | wols: 2.6.21 I think |
| 04:31.48 | Claudio32m | the exact same script works fine on my other system |
| 04:31.50 | wols | Claudio32m: add "v" to your tar command to see at which point it crashes |
| 04:31.57 | wols | !tell vlt about kmuto |
| 04:32.29 | Claudio32m | oh wait |
| 04:32.33 | Claudio32m | the backup dir wasnt excluded |
| 04:32.34 | Claudio32m | and i ran it from there |
| 04:32.38 | Claudio32m | is that the prob? |
| 04:32.38 | wols | or if the system is already installed, use a backports kernel |
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| 04:33.00 | Claudio32m | oh no it is excluded |
| 04:33.01 | mbroeker | Claudio32m, i think so |
| 04:33.02 | Claudio32m | just saw it |
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| 04:33.18 | mbroeker | i dont think so, Claudio32m :) |
| 04:33.28 | Claudio32m | whats the apt-get command to update the kernel? |
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| 04:34.13 | obnauticus | err does anyoen here know of a rar/compressed archive cracker for debian |
| 04:34.41 | obnauticus | I have an rar on my webserver that for some reason doesn't have a password in the db |
| 04:34.42 | obnauticus | :| |
| 04:34.51 | vlt | wols: A 2.6.15 kernel (from ubuntu, if that matters) works fine on that machine. |
| 04:35.00 | obnauticus | (cli only) |
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| 04:37.00 | vlt | socialist: "noapic" doesn't change anything. |
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| 04:38.02 | Claudio32m | kernel.org has the latest kernels, whats the easiest way to upgrade my kernel? |
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| 04:42.47 | vorpal | !kernel-package |
| 04:42.47 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra' |
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| 04:48.38 | socialist | vlt: hm... I have gotten very similar symptoms when booting some SMP systems with default kernel options... in my cases mixed combinations of noapic/noacpi (or acpi=off/apic=off) usually worked |
| 04:48.55 | socialist | actually not similar, pretty much identical based on your description |
| 04:49.03 | Dark_Apostrophe | socialist: Damn, I dislike your nickname. :o |
| 04:49.24 | socialist | Dark_Apostrophe: I'm all torn up inside about that |
| 04:49.30 | Dark_Apostrophe | :D |
| 04:50.23 | Dark_Apostrophe | socialist: May I recommend a treatment? Read Murray N. Rothbard's "For a New Liberty" |
| 04:51.11 | Rickyban | i setup a forward zone for my domain to point to my IP, I also setup a reverse zone for my IP to point to my domain, but the reverse don't work, anyone know why? |
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| 04:51.15 | Claudio32m | how come when i type "patch -p1 patch-2.6.xx" nothing happens? |
| 04:51.34 | Claudio32m | i uncompressed the patch file |
| 04:51.50 | mbroeker | Claudio32m, patch -p1 < patch* |
| 04:52.18 | Claudio32m | ahhh thanks |
| 04:52.36 | Claudio32m | it even said in the man patch |
| 04:52.39 | Claudio32m | i didnt see that |
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| 04:53.23 | Gokee2 | is there any way to moniter a file and if there is new input pipe that into something like less? |
| 04:53.54 | socialist | Dark_Apostrophe: you probably like Ayn Rand a lot don't you |
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| 04:54.04 | Claudio32m | do i need the source code to apply the patches? |
| 04:54.11 | Dark_Apostrophe | socialist: Not at all |
| 04:54.19 | Dark_Apostrophe | socialist: Objectivism is wholly absurd to me |
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| 04:54.33 | mbroeker | Gokee2, maybe tail -f file.txt is sufficient for you |
| 04:54.34 | narayan | hello |
| 04:54.42 | socialist | misread ya, sorry |
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| 04:54.57 | Rickyban | when logged in through ssh, how do i switch terminals on the CLI? |
| 04:55.05 | Rickyban | to the second terminal screen |
| 04:56.52 | mbroeker | Claudio32m, a patch changes something from version 1 to version 2. without version 1 there will be nothing to patch. |
| 04:56.55 | Gokee2 | mbroeker, It should do.. Thanks :) |
| 04:57.31 | Gokee2 | Now is there a way to check the perms in a whole dir and sub files and make sure there are r/w for my user? |
| 04:58.28 | socialist | ahh anarcho-capitalists |
| 04:58.35 | vlt | socialist: acpi=off, apic=off and noapic don't help |
| 04:59.21 | vlt | socialist: I just tried booting a Debian install.amd64 and it seems to work fine. Will try an install.i386 soon. |
| 05:00.23 | Tramp | Gokee2: man find, look for "-perm" |
| 05:00.33 | Wyzard | Gokee2: less has its own built-in "tail -f" sort of thing... type 'F' and it'll go to the end of the file and wait for new data to be appended to the file |
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| 05:03.14 | Gokee2 | Wyzard, ah ok thanks |
| 05:03.47 | mbroeker | Gokee2, echo "for i in $(find /home/gokee2); do if [ ! -w $i ]; then echo "$i is not Writable"; fi; done;" > script && chmod +x script && watch -n 5 ./script |
| 05:03.56 | vlt | socialist: hmmm, maybe I should mention that the kernel throwing these interrupt errors is a 2.6.18-686. Could that be a problem? |
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| 05:04.27 | vlt | socialist: ... on an AMD Athlon64/X2? |
| 05:05.18 | polishpaul_ | can anyone help me with this - i need to find out the most recently modified file, i want to be able to 'ls' sort the output by date, then maybe take 'head' of that... i'm not very familiar with sorting / selecting the fields |
| 05:05.20 | socialist | vlt: no, multi-proc opterons or xeons |
| 05:05.36 | socialist | vlt: my experience I mean |
| 05:06.11 | Tramp | polishpaul_: ls -lt? |
| 05:06.25 | polishpaul_ | Tramp, that may work.. let see |
| 05:06.28 | socialist | you should be able to boot 32bit on an athlon just fine, but I can't say first-hand, I don't have one |
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| 05:06.33 | amundsen | hi |
| 05:06.47 | amundsen | does anybody know if there's any bug in xsane ? |
| 05:06.48 | Wyzard | vlt: AMD64 processors can run 32-bit software just fine |
| 05:06.57 | amundsen | it doesn't detect my scanner |
| 05:07.03 | Tramp | polishpaul_: (-lrt for most recent files last i.e. reverse sort) |
| 05:07.05 | amundsen | and it works perfectly in other distros |
| 05:07.11 | mbroeker | Gokee2, ups, this command expands the stuff on the fly. needs to be fixed ;) |
| 05:08.20 | Gokee2 | mbroeker, Hmm I get /script: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `/home/gokee2/.qt' |
| 05:09.23 | vlt | Wyzard: On that machine a live cd with 2.6.21 and a hd with ubuntu (kernel 2.6.15) works fine. It's just the installed Debian Etch that won't boot in that machine. |
| 05:11.35 | mbroeker | Gokee2, the command is ok, but you need to copy it per hand. |
| 05:11.37 | Tramp | amundsen: does it work for root? |
| 05:11.56 | amundsen | Tramp: let's see ... |
| 05:12.04 | Gokee2 | per hand? |
| 05:12.12 | Gokee2 | cat hi |
| 05:12.21 | polishpaul_ | Tramp, the problem is.. now i wanna do this for ALL the files.. * I remember using something similar to find largest files on the box i would look through all files. |
| 05:12.38 | mbroeker | Gokee2, tell me the full path |
| 05:12.42 | polishpaul_ | then i snorted them in order of largest to smallest |
| 05:12.52 | mbroeker | is it in /home/gokee2/work or so? |
| 05:13.16 | Gokee2 | mbroeker, I am trying to figure out if I have some permmission problem in /home/gokee2 |
| 05:13.44 | mbroeker | Gokee2, http://rafb.net/p/YwWXa155.html |
| 05:13.51 | mbroeker | that script will do it |
| 05:13.57 | Gokee2 | Kde will not start because it says "There was an error setting up inter-process communacations for kde.............Could not read network connection list..... /home/gokee2/.DCOPserver_gokee2__0.............Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running." |
| 05:14.04 | Tramp | polishpaul_: well, problem is: parsing and sorting dates is not exactly trivial unless they are timestamps (i.e. seconds since the epoch) |
| 05:14.39 | polishpaul_ | yeah.. guess you got a point there |
| 05:14.45 | Tramp | polishpaul_: ls has a "--time-style" option - dunno if it can output timestamps |
| 05:15.01 | polishpaul_ | stupid VPS... |
| 05:15.03 | amundsen | Tramp: scanimage -L gets hung |
| 05:15.39 | amundsen | Tramp: but sane-find-scaner gives me "found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9, product=0x220e, chip=LM983x?) at libusb:001:004" |
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| 05:16.11 | Tramp | amundsen: check the owner/group of this device. I bet you have to put your user in group "scanner" |
| 05:16.30 | polusk | sorry ... i've a stupid question ... how can I launch a program @ debian startup? (it's a server in command line) . I maked a bash in /etc/init.d/somefile , and rc-update somefile ... I rebooted the server but the program wasn't launched. |
| 05:16.42 | polusk | (hello :'( ) |
| 05:16.47 | Gokee2 | mbroeker, WOW thanks..... |
| 05:16.48 | Tramp | amundsen: its /dev/bus/usb/001/004 |
| 05:16.57 | Gokee2 | That seems to say I can`t write to anything |
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| 05:18.16 | polusk | I followed this 'tutorial' : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 |
| 05:18.45 | Tramp | polishpaul_: yes, the following works: ls -l --time-style="+%s" |
| 05:19.20 | Gokee2 | mbroeker, Hmm does it not do space correctly? It says /home/gokee2/Desktop/stuff/Programing/perl is not writtable but there is nothing called perl there but there is perl konsole |
| 05:19.25 | amundsen | Tramp: and what do i have to do then ? |
| 05:19.59 | Tramp | amundsen: what gives "ls - /dev/bus/usb/001/004" |
| 05:20.00 | Gokee2 | Is also all looks fine under ls -la |
| 05:20.18 | mbroeker | Gokee2, if [ ! -w "$i" ]; change the line so that it looks like this |
| 05:20.32 | amundsen | Tramp: crw-rw-r-- 1 root scanner 189, 3 2007-12-02 06:13 /dev/bus/usb/001/004 |
| 05:20.51 | Tramp | amundsen: well, just add the user to the group "scanner" then |
| 05:21.00 | polishpaul_ | Tramp, thanks, i'll have to goof around with it, i'll need to figure out how to sort by the time column |
| 05:21.09 | sparr_ | how can i make mv move and delete one file at a time while recursing directories instead of moving everything and then deleting everything? |
| 05:21.11 | polishpaul_ | but i think i found a solution to my problem |
| 05:21.41 | amundsen | Tramp: thx |
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| 05:22.38 | Gokee2 | mbroeker, Hmm still getting the same thing however I did notve it has each word of the directry name as not writable |
| 05:23.02 | Gokee2 | notice* |
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| 05:23.28 | mbroeker | Gokee2, http://rafb.net/p/Lg8zaU70.html try V2 |
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| 05:23.57 | estupendocero | so when I type sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg, it returns the error: conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove). What's going on? |
| 05:24.30 | rwp | Try dpkg-reconfigure as one word, *not* dpkg -reconfigure two words. |
| 05:24.34 | vorpal | dpkg--reconfigure |
| 05:24.43 | rwp | s/--/-/ :-) |
| 05:24.45 | vorpal | err, right. one dash, not two |
| 05:24.49 | estupendocero | rwp: ahhh |
| 05:25.01 | estupendocero | Well I feel stupid |
| 05:25.06 | rwp | dpkg -reconfig looks like dpkg with -r -e -c etc options. |
| 05:25.21 | vorpal | estupidocero? |
| 05:26.00 | estupendocero | vorpal: lololol |
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| 05:26.19 | polusk | hmm, someone? |
| 05:26.24 | estupendocero | well, that did it. I could have sworn I'd tried that already |
| 05:26.28 | estupendocero | thanks a million |
| 05:26.52 | Gokee2 | mbroeker, That wooshed and had a whle bunch of things that is did not say were not writable then it stoped for a while at something it says it not writable... serverauth? I will have to try deleting that! its done the woosh a few more times.... odd... |
| 05:26.53 | Tramp | polishpaul_: sort -n --key=6.1,6.10 should do it |
| 05:27.09 | vorpal | estupendocero: when in doubt, type: dpkg<tab><tab> :-) |
| 05:27.24 | vorpal | assuming you have a shell that does completion |
| 05:27.35 | Gokee2 | (sorry about my spelling its a bit harder to type on this keyboard then on my main one |
| 05:28.04 | vorpal | i swear, i am addicted to completion. i find my sef using it to complete words as i am writing email, or whatever |
| 05:28.24 | vorpal | or *attempting* to use it, as often it doesn't exist ;-) |
| 05:29.12 | Tramp | polishpaul_: With ls -al --time-style="+%s / %c" you have even both - timestamp for sorting + human readable 8) |
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| 05:31.19 | sparr_ | [how] can i symlink directories across different drives and have the ".." directory behave sensibly? |
| 05:31.43 | vorpal | define sensible |
| 05:33.33 | sparr_ | say i have "/mnt/hda2/foo/bar -> /mnt/hda1/baz/bar" and i "cd /mnt/hda2/foo/bar" then "ls ..", i would like the contents of /mnt/hda2/foo instead of /mnt/hda1/baz. that seems sensible to me, since my pwd is /mnt/hda2/foo/bar |
| 05:33.42 | hoxu | estupendocero, it thought you wanted to use short options, eg. -r -e -c -o ... :p |
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| 05:36.44 | Tramp | sparr_: I disagree. hda2/foo is a link, not a directory. A link cannot be a pwd. A directory has entries for "." and "..", but not a link. |
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| 05:37.30 | Tramp | I mean hda2/foo/bar. |
| 05:37.59 | K`zan | How do I install a .deb file. It will not find the file: apt-get install ./package.deb. |
| 05:38.54 | streuner_ | man dpkg, man apt-get |
| 05:39.09 | sparr_ | Tramp: my shell disagrees with you, links CAN be pwd |
| 05:39.13 | bucky | dpkg -i <deb> |
| 05:39.13 | dpkg | package <deb> is already installed |
| 05:39.18 | Gokee2 | K`zan, I use dpkg -i packagename |
| 05:39.35 | Gokee2 | (If I rememberd the command right) |
| 05:39.38 | K`zan | Gokee2: Thank you VERY much Sir! |
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| 05:40.04 | infurnus | anybody know how to get Compiz settings manager from Spanish to English? |
| 05:40.27 | infurnus | its mostly spanish except what probably doesnt translate |
| 05:40.27 | K`zan | Gokee2: That worked, again, THANKS! |
| 05:40.28 | hoxu | sparr_, well, .. refers to the actual symlink target directory because of the way how symlinks are expanded |
| 05:40.35 | Tramp | sparr_: That's because the builtin pwd is weird. /bin/pwd is right. |
| 05:40.57 | Gokee2 | K`zan, np |
| 05:41.00 | sparr_ | Tramp: id like to use the builtin pwd |
| 05:41.07 | sparr_ | hoxu: can that be changed? |
| 05:41.10 | Tramp | sparr_: use it with "-P" then |
| 05:41.17 | polusk | How can I configure an autolaunch for a program @ debian statup? I followed link http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 , but that doesn't work :( |
| 05:41.37 | sparr_ | Tramp: that changes the builtin PWD to to the real location |
| 05:41.46 | streuner_ | what wm? |
| 05:42.04 | Tramp | sparr_: exactly. otherwise it lies about the undenible fact, that a link is not a directory. |
| 05:42.19 | sparr_ | so how can i get the behavior that i want? |
| 05:42.19 | hoxu | sparr_, not that I know of... I can imagine the shell could do something for the symlinks having ".." in them before passing it to kernel or whatever expands the path, no idea if there are options or anything... |
| 05:42.39 | sparr_ | ive got a bunch of directories all over the filesystem, and i would like to pretend they are all in the same place, and move files between them |
| 05:42.56 | sparr_ | hoxu: the symlinks do not have .. in them, they are absolute |
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| 05:43.24 | hoxu | sparr_, I mean the paths you write having ".." in them (after a symlink) :p |
| 05:43.45 | sparr_ | hoxu: ahh. ok, guess i need to ask the shell guys |
| 05:44.00 | Tramp | sparr_: You may want to use the builtin pwd, remove the last component and use its output for whatever you want to to |
| 05:44.06 | streuner_ | polusk: what wm? |
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| 05:44.25 | sparr_ | Tramp: thats what im doing. and its tedious as hell. removes almost all the benefit of having the links at all |
| 05:44.26 | polusk | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.36 | polusk | it's supybot ... |
| 05:44.37 | streuner_ | !wm |
| 05:44.37 | dpkg | window manager is, like, a special class of X applications which decorates and manages windows for the X server. to list your available window managers, run "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager". not to be confused with a <desktop environment> such as Gnome or KDE. to set your system-wide default window manager, use "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager". |
| 05:44.56 | polusk | i don't need any wm ... |
| 05:45.08 | Tramp | sparr_: But I bet my live's savings that ".." and thus "ls .." will not do what you want, since ".." is a well defined directory entry, containing the inode of the physical parent |
| 05:45.11 | polusk | but thanks |
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| 05:45.43 | Gokee2 | Anyone know why kde would have problems setting up interprocess communacations? |
| 05:45.55 | hoxu | Tramp, although I guess something sinister could be scripted to mess with the paths before they get passed to the command(s) :p |
| 05:45.55 | streuner_ | !rc.local |
| 05:45.55 | dpkg | methinks rc.local is /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. if you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is considered a hack, consider writing a real init script (ask me about <init.d>). as of 2.86.ds1-1, initscript has an rc.local file for compatibility with inferior operating s |
| 05:46.15 | polusk | erf |
| 05:46.36 | polusk | /etc/rc.local and NOT /etc/init.d/rc.local |
| 05:46.45 | polusk | :'( |
| 05:46.47 | Tramp | hoxu: ".." is a really existing directory entry, not just some "logical abstraction". It exists like a file exists. |
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| 05:46.53 | polusk | thanks |
| 05:46.56 | vlt | socialist: I give up. I installed -k7 and -amd64 kernels and all give me the same error when booting on the new hardware. |
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| 05:48.25 | vlt | I'll try a fresh install on that machine. I that runs maybe I can copy the whole disk except /boot from the current system ... |
| 05:48.56 | vlt | s/I that/If that/ |
| 05:49.05 | Tramp | It's also one of the reasons, why hard links break FS-semantics and thus are generally forbidden |
| 05:49.32 | Tramp | hard links to directories that is. |
| 05:49.34 | hoxu | Tramp, yes, but like shell handles cd'ing to a symlink directory as a special case (cd .. just chops part of the symlinked path off), I guess you could make some preprocessing in the shell before passing the path to the actual command |
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| 05:51.11 | mosty | how can i check a disk that has been marked as failed in a software raid1 array? |
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| 05:54.21 | ryty | mosty: rebuild it, and see if it goes failed again |
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| 05:56.26 | mosty | ryty, would a reboot force that? the system is still running at the moment, i'm not there physically to boot a live cd and test it through that |
| 05:56.28 | hoxu | !sunday |
| 05:56.28 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 05:57.15 | ryty | mosty: you can do it using mdadm |
| 05:58.16 | ryty | since it's software raid, most likely you won't have to reboot tore-build the disk |
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| 06:01.57 | mosty | ryty, mdadm --re-add says that the device is busy |
| 06:04.39 | ryty | mosty: hdadm has the ability to force the disk down, but be sure it's the one you want to do it to |
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| 06:06.33 | mosty | ryty, it's not the entire disk, just two partitions on that disk |
| 06:06.52 | ryty | hmm |
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| 06:06.56 | ryty | they mounted somewhere? |
| 06:07.10 | ryty | (outside of the array) |
| 06:07.36 | mosty | no |
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| 06:12.45 | Abu-Aadam | just did smooth lenny dist-upgrade |
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| 06:13.22 | RickyWh | how do i find what version of BIND i'm running on my server? |
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| 06:14.00 | bucky | how come there's no nvidia driver source packages for lenny... just a rhetorical question |
| 06:14.37 | bucky | RickyWh, dpkg -l bind |
| 06:15.00 | RickyWh | doesn't work |
| 06:15.06 | RickyWh | i don't use dpkg |
| 06:15.10 | RickyWh | i use apt-get |
| 06:15.23 | Alam_Debian | bucky, you want them? I had to build my own from svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-nvidia/packages/ |
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| 06:15.57 | bucky | oh cool... too late i went with the nvidia installer thanks for the offer! |
| 06:16.00 | krux0 | how can i install an i686 gcc tool chain on my amd64... I'm trying to cross compile using distcc |
| 06:16.10 | RickyWh | bucky, FYI, named -version gave me what i was looking for. |
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| 06:16.32 | mosty | krux0, would a debootstrap/chroot do? |
| 06:16.41 | bucky | RickyWh, dpkg doesnt' work on your machine? what version of linux are you using? |
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| 06:17.04 | RickyWh | actually, it was a cent os 5 machine, i thought it was a debian etch machine |
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| 06:17.35 | bucky | RickyWh, are you the guy that set his dns to a reserved address last night? |
| 06:17.41 | Abu-Aadam | i have a bitmap of stallman that looks similar to the chi guevera posters |
| 06:17.52 | RickyWh | reserved address? |
| 06:17.55 | bucky | Abu-Aadam, i saw those.. hilarious |
| 06:18.02 | RickyWh | bucky, yes it was probably me |
| 06:18.23 | krux0 | mosty, I'll give that a try |
| 06:18.33 | bucky | RickyWh, if you don't know what a reserved address is.. you have no business messing with bind |
| 06:18.49 | RickyWh | haha |
| 06:19.25 | bucky | that's kinda like me becoming an email administrator |
| 06:19.26 | RickyWh | i bought a domain for 6.95 at godaddy and download debian etch to learn linux and DNS so in my case it's ok to mess with things? |
| 06:19.29 | simonrvn | seriously |
| 06:19.49 | simonrvn | do some reading first, then mess around |
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| 06:20.21 | bucky | i want to flood the internet with non deliverable email |
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| 06:20.45 | Abu-Aadam | bucky: The plf penguin bitmap is pretty good aswell |
| 06:20.54 | bucky | Abu-Aadam, url? |
| 06:21.13 | Abu-Aadam | !plf |
| 06:21.16 | RickyWh | simonrvn, i've read howtoforge basics of DNS, oreilly DNS and BIND 5th edition, i'm in the messing around phase now |
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| 06:21.56 | simonrvn | well, if you did, good for you, and best of luck |
| 06:22.08 | bucky | i run centos in a vz... i don't ask questions about it here |
| 06:22.27 | Abu-Aadam | bucky: i'll just get it seeing dpkg doesn't have it |
| 06:22.46 | RickyWh | simonrvn, just wanted to give you an update in the slightest |
| 06:22.46 | bucky | i'll find it .. one sec |
| 06:23.06 | simonrvn | i think september or so |
| 06:23.08 | Abu-Aadam | bucky: http://plf.zarb.org/ |
| 06:23.22 | RickyWh | simonrvn, i purchased a vps from a company called knownhost, ever hear of em? |
| 06:23.41 | simonrvn | RickyWh: heh, s'ok. often get people who *don't* read anything, and wanna do things right away |
| 06:23.52 | bucky | Abu-Aadam, yah.. that's scarey |
| 06:24.11 | simonrvn | RickyWh: so we get used to people doing dumb things with no knowledge at all... |
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| 06:24.36 | simonrvn | you should at least do dumb things with knowledge ;p |
| 06:25.11 | simonrvn | RickyWh: i don't do the "have a host elsewhere" thing |
| 06:25.16 | RickyWh | ahh hehe. ya i have friends that tell me to go play around first before reading to see how far you get. then go read, then come back and play |
| 06:27.23 | RickyWh | simonrvn, can you connect to my VPS and help me find out whats going on in regards to how the DNS is setup? |
| 06:27.24 | Abu-Aadam | Do companies support RedHat more because they prefer to help companies with commercial intentions? |
| 06:27.52 | Abu-Aadam | sorry it's abit offtopic |
| 06:27.54 | simonrvn | RickyWh: don't have much time, handling a couple things right now |
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| 06:28.39 | RickyWh | simonrvn, ahh k, nm. it's just i signed up with this host and the named.conf file is completely empty and i'm not exactly sure what directory the files should be in or if they are created at all |
| 06:29.26 | bucky | Abu-Aadam, companies want commercial 24/7 on call support... which is ok |
| 06:29.41 | simonrvn | debian's are in /etc/bind |
| 06:30.03 | bucky | Abu-Aadam, speaking of ot... this link about the OLPC is pretty interesting |
| 06:30.04 | bucky | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Peru/Arahuay |
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| 06:31.08 | Abu-Aadam | bucky: Well I would personally rather make money than not |
| 06:32.18 | Abu-Aadam | bucky: do you think the girls in the photo have learnt python yet? |
| 06:32.51 | bucky | i'm happy for those kids |
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| 06:34.48 | Abu-Aadam | bucky: yes it's a great project I feel. In educational terms and in terms of charity. |
| 06:35.10 | bucky | yup |
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| 06:37.09 | ryty | is there a list of APT sources that I can use somewhere? |
| 06:38.32 | RickyWh | what is the command to see what OS i'm running? |
| 06:39.12 | hoxu | RickyWh, uname |
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| 06:39.39 | RickyWh | it says, Linux host.keithkool.com 2.6.9-023stab044.11-entnosplit #1 SMP Sun Sep 30 12:28:38 MSD 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux |
| 06:40.18 | bucky | ryty, http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 06:42.59 | Abu-Aadam | bucky: Do their teachers create Books for them to read on the laptops |
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| 06:43.37 | bucky | Abu-Aadam, i don't know.. the program is in it's infancy so i kinda don't think so |
| 06:43.57 | bucky | i don't even think they have a hard drive in those |
| 06:44.38 | Abu-Aadam | bucky: a large flash drive? |
| 06:45.02 | bucky | it's a little arm based system afaik |
| 06:45.12 | bucky | embeded |
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| 06:45.39 | bucky | brb |
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| 06:50.22 | gamag | linux kernel 2.6.18 of debian etch is able to detect my toshiba hard disk. but linux kernel 2.6.23 available with etch-custom of kmuto.jp is unable to detect hard disks. are the drivers missing in this new kernel? |
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| 06:53.48 | mosty | gamag, perhaps they just changed ata drivers, hda might have become sda or vice versa |
| 06:54.18 | gamag | mosty: so how do I proceed with the installation? i can't install if it doesn't detect any hard disk |
| 06:54.33 | gamag | it is the kmuto.jp etch-customer 2.6.23 net installer |
| 06:55.53 | Vasistha | gamag: what's this "kmuto" ? |
| 06:56.15 | hoxu | Vasistha, apparently it's some site that offers custom kernels that don't work ;) |
| 06:56.21 | gamag | Vasistha: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 06:56.55 | gamag | i have also tried manually upgrading the kernel using dpkg -i with the 2.6.23 image available in lenny repository |
| 06:56.59 | gamag | same problem with that |
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| 06:58.57 | hoxu | gamag, what was the problem, exactly? |
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| 06:59.44 | kenboo | how can I install xen3.1 on lenny? |
| 06:59.50 | gamag | hoxu: problem is that the Debian etch 4.0 r0 installation doesn't recognize my audio, network. network is a big problem. I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.23 but copying the .deb file using USB and when I boot with it, it doesn't recognize the hard disk at all. It's a toshiba hard disk |
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| 07:00.14 | gamag | hoxu: i wonder when 2.6.18 can identify the hard disk, why can't 2.6.23. is it missing in the newer kernel? |
| 07:00.27 | gamag | i know that 2.6.20 kernel has understands my hardware, where can I download its .deb from? |
| 07:00.28 | kenboo | i couldn't find linux-image patched for xen... |
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| 07:03.47 | Vasistha | gamag: you might try asking again when the channel's a bit more active. It's sleepy-time for usa, and sunday morning for europe |
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| 07:05.45 | kenboo | looks like i should use etch with xen3.1 packages from lenny. |
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| 07:09.51 | cahoot | gamag: did you try the generic ide info yesterday? |
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| 07:13.42 | gamag | cahoot: generic ide doesn't work |
| 07:13.45 | bucky | gamag, my upgrade wouldn't recognize the ide to sata adaptor that came with my mb |
| 07:14.06 | bucky | i had to go to a real sata drive |
| 07:14.22 | gamag | bucky: you know the reason? how come the old kernel recognizes but not the new? |
| 07:14.26 | bucky | and the drivers were renamed in the newer kernel |
| 07:14.57 | bucky | ata_generic, sata_sil sd_mod, libata |
| 07:15.13 | bucky | the sata_sil is for my SiI 3112 controller |
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| 07:15.41 | bucky | and those have to be in the initrd-img |
| 07:20.17 | mosty | gamag, do you have an existing install, or are you trying to install from scratch? |
| 07:20.32 | gamag | i have an existing install but it doesn't work with network, audio |
| 07:21.09 | mosty | what is your root device in the install that detects your hard drive? |
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| 07:21.32 | moshii | How does one tell linux-image packages to run update-grub after they install? |
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| 07:22.05 | mosty | moshii, i believe they should do it for you automatically, you shouldn't need to do anything |
| 07:22.30 | moshii | mosty: If you install grub at install time, yes. Not if you do it post-install |
| 07:22.38 | XoX | fuser is supposed to show opened files in a mounted dir no ? how come when i do fuser /boot , it dosent print anything yet when i do umount on the dir it says it's busy |
| 07:23.07 | vod | is there a freeze on unstable packages? deb http://ftp.debian.org unstable main contrib non-free non-us hasn't produced any new packages for me in a while |
| 07:24.22 | mosty | moshii, maybe you could look in the linux-image postinst scripts to find out? |
| 07:24.53 | moshii | mosty: yeah, that was the next stage.. I was hoping I could avoid digging :( |
| 07:25.06 | bucky | moshii, did you build your own kernel? |
| 07:25.14 | moshii | well.. at least my keyboard works now.. woot |
| 07:26.02 | moshii | bucky: no, I'm running debian on a macbook.. so I couldn't install a bootloader during the install. And now when I install kernel images I have to run update-grub manually |
| 07:26.47 | bucky | ic |
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| 07:27.27 | moshii | bucky: and I'm running the latest kernels from the buildserver repository so that all my hardware works. bit annoying to upgrade the kernel, reboot and the shoot "ahhh nuts mother arse I didn't run update-grub" |
| 07:27.27 | moshii | bucky: *and then shout |
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| 07:31.45 | bucky | i think there's some voodoo you have to do to make it work with the mac loader afaik |
| 07:32.16 | moshii | bucky: grub is running fine with refit now |
| 07:32.32 | bucky | great |
| 07:32.50 | moshii | bucky: but I want the grub menu and if possible external modules rebuilt when I install a kernel image |
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| 07:33.34 | moshii | ok, it's in /etc/kernel-img.conf :) |
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| 07:42.39 | stopher | Hello, What do I add for a Debian FTP Mirror? |
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| 07:46.33 | mosty | moshii, i thought one of the features of grub was that you didn't need to reinstall it after configuration changes |
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| 07:47.07 | hoxu | !tell stopher about sources.list |
| 07:47.13 | stopher | thanks |
| 07:47.16 | moshii | mosty: you don't need to update the boot sector stuff, but you need to update /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 07:47.36 | hoxu | stopher, just use ftp:// instead of http:// |
| 07:47.46 | mosty | moshii, oh so that just updates menu.lst, i see |
| 07:49.38 | moshii | mosty: yup, lilo writes pointers to the kernel images in the boot sector, so it need to be rewritten. Nasty |
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| 07:50.17 | Vasistha | mosty: the nice thing about grub is that you can usually figure it out and manually type in whatever it is you need, and then you're set |
| 07:50.32 | mosty | i just wish grub worked better with xfs |
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| 07:52.51 | moshii | Vasistha: yeah, that's saved my arse a few times haha |
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| 07:53.15 | moshii | mosty: have a /boot fs that is ext2 or ext3 |
| 07:53.35 | mosty | that's what i resort to, but i wish i didn't need to |
| 07:54.07 | stopher2 | I have three locations. One main, and two remote backups, what would be the best way for all three (running debian etch4) to automatically clone from the main system, and set it to where if the main system isn't found, the remote takes over the requests from the internet? |
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| 07:54.58 | stopher2 | I was thinking VPN between locations, with a little configuring for something, unless debian has a not-so-hidden secret to mirror |
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| 07:55.57 | moshii | mm does the refresh rate make much difference for tft displays.. I was under the impression that they had a fixed refresh |
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| 07:59.11 | Abu-Aadam | I think unstable /j #ubuntu |
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| 08:04.52 | roxy_ | I set up xorg.conf for dual screen. When booting the screen just go black and nothing. No error in the log. What can I check ? |
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| 08:09.39 | DawnLight | roxy_: free drivers or proprietary ati/nvidia? |
| 08:10.07 | roxy_ | DawnLight: nv . But each works well by itself. |
| 08:10.45 | roxy_ | DawnLight: is it the right way to set it up: http://rafb.net/p/C4XLTl17.html |
| 08:10.57 | DawnLight | i forgot this already, sorry |
| 08:11.29 | DawnLight | you don't want dual head |
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| 08:12.06 | roxy_ | DawnLight: what do I want then ? :-) |
| 08:12.09 | DawnLight | read the documentation thoroughtly |
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| 08:12.48 | roxy_ | DawnLight: the only doc I could find was for gentoo. Do you have better for debian ? (I am usingn debian testing) |
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| 08:13.34 | srid | debian testing i386 ISO directory is empty?? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 08:13.40 | DawnLight | roxy_: ahm... read the documentation for X. specifically for xorg.conf |
| 08:13.59 | roxy_ | DawnLight: ok, thanks |
| 08:14.02 | cahoot | roxy_: maybe this can be of use: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2#the_Virtual_screen |
| 08:14.05 | DawnLight | roxy_: try http://x.org |
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| 08:14.52 | roxy_ | cahoot: thanks |
| 08:14.59 | roxy_ | + |
| 08:15.00 | DawnLight | roxy_: and /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg |
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| 08:22.56 | rcbarnes | Where's a list of all packages I have installed? |
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| 08:24.39 | callahad | rcbarnes: Do you want to include packages that were automatically installed, too? |
| 08:24.57 | rcbarnes | callahad: no, just stuff I've asked for |
| 08:25.22 | rcbarnes | you know how it is. You try a bunch of software and then forget half of it and waste time updating it, etc. |
| 08:25.38 | mosty | rcbarnes, dpkg -l |
| 08:25.45 | callahad | rcbarnes: aptitude search '~i!~M' |
| 08:25.59 | callahad | (make sure you include the single quotes so Bash doesn't freak out at the ! mark) |
| 08:26.18 | rcbarnes | callahad: thanks |
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| 08:28.07 | callahad | rcbarnes: If you like using the ncurses interface to aptitude, you can also run that, hit L, and type in ~i!~M to limit the displayed packages to just those matching that filter |
| 08:28.38 | rcbarnes | callahad: cool, though I'm more of a straight command-line man myself :-D |
| 08:29.36 | daya | how to access remote desktop of linux from another machine is it tsclient |
| 08:30.01 | callahad | rcbarnes: Oh, if you know what you're looking for, of course, but I find it much easier to aimlessly wander through the package catalog "graphically" |
| 08:30.03 | daya | I have installed tslient but can't access |
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| 08:33.53 | callahad | Anyone have Epiphany or Konqueror handy and a few minutes to spare? I saw this post: http://www.bononia.it/~zack/blog//posts/2007/12/pts_face_lift.html on Planet Debian, and developed a custom stylesheet for the Debian PTS. I don't have a linux box handy to test it on, however. |
| 08:34.38 | rcbarnes | callahad: I'm playing in aptitude; is there a way to show the list as a flat list instead of a two- or three-deep heiararchy? |
| 08:34.53 | callahad | Yep... one sec *pokes at aptitude* |
| 08:35.40 | callahad | rcbarnes: ^T -> Views -> F |
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| 08:36.19 | rcbarnes | callahad: Excellent. Do you run etch or lenny? If the latter, does a bug in the current libc6 break mplayer for you? |
| 08:37.04 | callahad | rcbarnes: I've got a server with etch, and a desktop with sid. Unfortunately, the desktop is 2200 miles away from me, and has been for the past several weeks :( |
| 08:37.05 | rcbarnes | I traced a crash to a call to function in libc6, (something for printing to the console, I recall). |
| 08:37.17 | rcbarnes | ah |
| 08:37.31 | callahad | So mplayer may or may not be broken on it... |
| 08:37.39 | rcbarnes | :-D |
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| 08:40.14 | zhangweiwu | Hello. I have been trying to setup samba for many days, too difficult. I always gets "check_sam_security: make_server_info_sam() failed with 'NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER'" |
| 08:40.29 | zhangweiwu | I don't even able to find out where configure file smbpasswd is. |
| 08:40.43 | zhangweiwu | on debian it seems to be not in /etc/smbpasswd nor in /etc/samba/smbpasswd |
| 08:40.58 | zhangweiwu | nor can 'locate' tell me. |
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| 08:43.48 | Nigromante | try anonymous login |
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| 08:45.07 | mosty | zhangweiwu, have you run smbpasswd to create samba passwords? |
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| 08:45.53 | Nigromante | check the user is created in windows |
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| 08:46.35 | Abu-Aadam | I quite like debian. Using unstable less problems than with ubuntu/fedora those things have alot of quirks |
| 08:47.34 | callahad | And at least when Unstable breaks, it breaks in new and interesting ways |
| 08:47.42 | Hoxzer | :D |
| 08:48.21 | Hoxzer | I personally prefer testing but atm using stable as I haven't had a reason to upgrade from etch -> lenny |
| 08:48.34 | zhangweiwu | mosty: after 2 days struggling I finally figured it out, right now! |
| 08:48.47 | zhangweiwu | mosty: it requires 1) the user is added with smbpasswd -a (which I did) |
| 08:48.47 | Abu-Aadam | Hoxzer: I upgraded today went very smoothly |
| 08:48.55 | Nigromante | which was he problem |
| 08:48.56 | Abu-Aadam | Hoxzer: impressed with it |
| 08:48.58 | zhangweiwu | 2) the user with same login exist in /etc/passwd. |
| 08:49.18 | zhangweiwu | mosty: after 1) & 2), the user is able to mount with that name.. |
| 08:49.59 | Abu-Aadam | callahad: I'm not sure what I can do to break it |
| 08:50.12 | Abu-Aadam | callahad: Ubuntu / Fedora froze for me if I logged off |
| 08:50.14 | Nigromante | are you trying to access windows or linux, zhangweiwu |
| 08:50.30 | callahad | Abu-Aadam: An 'aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade' is usually enough :) |
| 08:50.31 | Abu-Aadam | callahad: I think it's the whole 3d desktop forced thing |
| 08:50.34 | zhangweiwu | Nigromante: I am trying to let windows access debian file server. |
| 08:50.40 | Nigromante | ah ok |
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| 08:50.48 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 08:51.15 | Nigromante | hi |
| 08:51.27 | Abu-Aadam | callahad: I don't think it's that bad really. It may have hidden quirks but they don't appear to me yet. |
| 08:51.31 | callahad | Abu-Aadam: Oh, of course, I've had terrible troubles with Ubuntu and Fedora's Compiz desktops. But I'm just joking about Debian Unstable breaking when you least expect it due to a bug in a new version of software |
| 08:52.06 | callahad | Abu-Aadam: If you run Unstable, there will be a time in which you do a normal software update which breaks things. It's not common, but it does happen. |
| 08:52.08 | cahoot | rest assured you'll see problems if you stick to sid |
| 08:52.09 | nullvoid | I already have shorewall+squid+dansgurdian configured for my office internet users, but I would like to have access level, where everyone need to authenticate. What should I do? |
| 08:52.44 | Nigromante | you can also configure anonymous login and its group permissions in samba, zhangweiwu |
| 08:52.45 | Abu-Aadam | callahad: it can happen to inexperienced users in stable aswell |
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| 08:53.09 | Nigromante | e.g. let it connect as users group |
| 08:53.29 | callahad | Abu-Aadam: Correct, but in stable, it is usually the user's fault. With unstable, I've had a normal update destroy libgtk2 |
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| 08:53.52 | robink | How do I install a udeb to an shmfs? |
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| 08:54.21 | Abu-Aadam | callahad: well the apt system might have problems but the packages are fine. They are stable in FreeBSD at the moment also |
| 08:54.22 | zhangweiwu | Nigromante: no in our environment it should not be allowed for anonymous access. |
| 08:54.34 | Nigromante | ah ok |
| 08:54.35 | Abu-Aadam | callahad: just the package versions |
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| 08:55.11 | kantor | the mtab is always located in the /etc directory ? |
| 08:55.39 | Nigromante | no |
| 08:55.44 | Nigromante | fstab is in etc |
| 08:56.15 | dimir | Moin! |
| 08:56.16 | Nigromante | and mtab too :-P |
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| 08:56.49 | Nigromante | it seems it is kantor |
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| 09:09.59 | Abu-Aadam | I'm wondering how you can make nautilus so it doesn't open a new window when you open a new folder |
| 09:10.05 | Abu-Aadam | how it opens it in same folder |
| 09:10.12 | Abu-Aadam | and you can go back/foward and things |
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| 09:11.04 | callahad | Abu-Aadam: In preferences there should be something called "Always open Browser windows" or something similar |
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| 09:12.18 | philips | j |
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| 09:14.40 | Abu-Aadam | I installed w32codecs doesn't work for totem though |
| 09:15.12 | Nyle | totem uses which backend? |
| 09:15.14 | Nyle | xine? |
| 09:15.19 | Nyle | gstreamer? |
| 09:15.27 | Abu-Aadam | totem-xine is installed |
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| 09:16.51 | Nyle | hm |
| 09:16.58 | Nyle | I use SMplayer |
| 09:17.13 | Nyle | its a very very good gui for mplayer, with features that I now can't live without |
| 09:17.23 | Nyle | plays whatever I throw at it |
| 09:18.31 | Abu-Aadam | It's not in my repos |
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| 09:18.51 | Abu-Aadam | Does it have any quirks like bad buffering or anything |
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| 09:21.44 | mirf | is it possible to boot a debian iso whilst running debian to allow installation to other media? |
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| 09:22.17 | mohkohn | hello I am having trouble with virtualbox and a custom kernel. 2.6.23 |
| 09:22.41 | liable | mirf: you can deboostrap to ther media |
| 09:22.49 | liable | other |
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| 09:23.30 | mohkohn | I installed etch with this custom kernel http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2623-etch.htm |
| 09:23.34 | mirf | liable: yeah I started a debootstrap yesterday I was looking for something little more automatic.. |
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| 09:24.26 | liable | mirf: you cant really do it any other way without booting from said media afaik |
| 09:24.55 | mohkohn | virtualbox complains it is looking for kernel source but if I download the package kernel-source it is likely to be for the stock older kernel. |
| 09:25.01 | obsethryl | guys is there anyone from the debian - live team here? |
| 09:25.22 | mohkohn | I do have 2.6.23 source tar.bz file |
| 09:25.40 | mosty | mohkohn, just point virtualbox at your actual kernel source dir |
| 09:25.47 | liable | mohkohn: i font know what virtualbox needs, but its quite likely just headers for that kernel will do |
| 09:25.49 | Ranpha1 | If i bridge my wireless on eth1 , can 1 still beused for cable traffic, or prevent the bridge from reahing traffic to eth1? |
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| 09:27.05 | mohkohn | mosty how do I do that? liable I think they may be on the install cd. I am just apt-get dist-upgradeing now. |
| 09:27.09 | mohkohn | I will give that a try. |
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| 09:27.41 | obsethryl | anyway problem solved, it was about package availability for some software on the debian live as offered from the build server |
| 09:27.45 | mosty | mohkohn, i have no idea what virtualbox is, but usually things look in /usr/src/linux or you can point it with a ./configure flag |
| 09:28.43 | mohkohn | mosty thanks. FYI http://yenaer.com/blog/linux/17 |
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| 09:31.47 | deadeyes | hi all, I wondered if there is something in apt to delete files permanently... so they cant be recovered. |
| 09:32.02 | deadeyes | anyone an idea? |
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| 09:32.54 | mohkohn | deadeyes, do you mean something that overwrites to the DOD standard like the secure empty trash on mac? |
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| 09:33.29 | mohkohn | If it is I want one too! |
| 09:34.11 | deadeyes | mohkohn, yes something like that |
| 09:34.24 | deadeyes | so the file contents are overwritten (multiple times if possible) |
| 09:35.19 | urv | deadeyes: maybe shred |
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| 09:35.54 | mohkohn | shred meets the standard at the command line if used correctly. |
| 09:35.57 | Abu-Aadam | what repository is vlc in |
| 09:36.04 | deadeyes | urv, I will look it up:) |
| 09:36.07 | Abu-Aadam | I only have one that I added manually |
| 09:36.08 | liable | main i think |
| 09:36.19 | liable | !info vlc |
| 09:36.20 | mohkohn | but I would be interested in a gui tool as well. |
| 09:38.27 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player and streamer), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.6.c-3+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 1116 kB, Installed size: 3068 kB |
| 09:38.39 | deadeyes | urv, I think that is what I need:) I almost only use command line for file management |
| 09:39.24 | Abu-Aadam | liable: I don't have non-US could that be why it's not in the repo |
| 09:39.34 | beardy | !non-us |
| 09:39.34 | dpkg | hmm... non-us is where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01355.html |
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| 09:39.57 | liable | Abu-Aadam: vlc is in the main repo, are you running lenny? |
| 09:40.19 | Abu-Aadam | liable: yes |
| 09:40.23 | liable | !why is vlc not in testing? |
| 09:40.24 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
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| 09:40.33 | liable | Abu-Aadam: see that url |
| 09:40.38 | Abu-Aadam | ahh no worries |
| 09:40.42 | mohkohn | deadeyes this might be of interest: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/securely_delete_files_in_linux |
| 09:41.31 | liable | sheesh, its been a long fucking time now since vlc has been out of lenny |
| 09:42.15 | Nyle | hey howdy |
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| 09:43.04 | liable | dudey |
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| 09:43.46 | deadeyes | mohkohn, thanks for pointing me to that page... it seems that shred will not work on journaling filesystems :s |
| 09:43.53 | deadeyes | so I still have the same problem |
| 09:44.04 | liable | you can remove the journal from ext3 |
| 09:44.09 | mohkohn | I saw also |
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| 09:44.49 | deadeyes | liable, so I first have to remove the journal from ext3 and then delete the files I want? |
| 09:45.22 | deadeyes | but after it I will still use this laptop |
| 09:45.25 | liable | if thats what the app says, i guess so, you could try mounting it as ext2 first and see if it works |
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| 09:45.27 | deadeyes | so ext3 is still better to use |
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| 09:45.51 | exluddite | hi folks. why ya'll been hiding this distro from me? good stuff so far. |
| 09:45.52 | liable | you can add the journal back again afterwards |
| 09:46.32 | liable | i dunno how safe this whole operation would be, but removing the journal is fairly trivial with tune2fs |
| 09:47.21 | deadeyes | ok |
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| 09:48.42 | deadeyes | dban is also not an option :s it delete the whole hdd |
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| 09:50.13 | the_sniff | anyone knows where's the chroot script if i installed postfix from apt? |
| 09:50.15 | exluddite | question...anyone have a good link for ndiswrapper set up for debian? I have been using madwifi, bit the card in this laptop seems fried, so I'm trying to set up a netgear wg111 v2 |
| 09:50.50 | liable | exluddite: isnt that an atheros chip too? |
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| 09:51.49 | exluddite | liable: no, it isn't..these guys change chips about as often as I change underwear |
| 09:52.01 | liable | heh |
| 09:52.06 | liable | what is it know? |
| 09:52.10 | liable | now |
| 09:52.33 | exluddite | gimme a second |
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| 09:58.44 | Abu-Aadam | exluddite: better not to wear it |
| 09:58.55 | exluddite | liable: how do you get a root terminal going? su doesn't seem to work in the terminal....I'm used to kde |
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| 10:03.01 | liable | exluddite: it should |
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| 10:04.12 | kameron | what package contains GLIBC_2.4 ? |
| 10:04.28 | liable | kameron: /msg dpkg search |
| 10:04.39 | kameron | thanks liable |
| 10:04.45 | liable | np |
| 10:05.12 | exluddite | aha...nevermind probing..via the net it seems that its a Realtek chip |
| 10:05.40 | liable | there are realteck drivers out there |
| 10:06.09 | kameron | how do i query a binary to view it's dependencies, not based on what info is included in the Control file of deb? |
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| 10:06.22 | kameron | of the .deb rather |
| 10:06.54 | dondelelcaro | kameron: you look at the ldd output of the binary, and figure out what libraries it needs. |
| 10:07.04 | dondelelcaro | kameron: though even that isn't enough to really know the dependencies of a specific binary. |
| 10:07.11 | kameron | ok. |
| 10:07.16 | dondelelcaro | (which is why they're listed in the control file) |
| 10:08.15 | exluddite | liable: linux drivers or via ndiswrapper? |
| 10:08.47 | liable | exluddite: native linux |
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| 10:10.55 | syyh | Hi I have a BASH question, how can i get a bitwise A between two values? |
| 10:11.36 | syyh | bitwise AND i mean |
| 10:11.46 | syyh | like FOO=0 \& 1 only this doesnt work |
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| 10:16.52 | fasta | I have a PS/2 mouse. How can I see whether it was detected? I already did modprobe psmouse |
| 10:16.53 | the_sniff | éų--îöá--úāîé--ïėé |
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| 10:17.04 | the_sniff | could installing dovecot fsck up postfix's permissions? |
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| 10:19.04 | logd | hi, in a multi user system how do i files can be accessed only by proprietary ? |
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| 10:19.49 | the_sniff | logd:what? :s |
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| 10:20.35 | logd | for example i've userA and userB how do i make UserA can read only files of UserA and UserB only files of UserB |
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| 10:20.51 | roxy_ | I have been checking my xorg.conf a billions times and there is no error messages in the log. |
| 10:21.00 | roxy_ | When X starts it just goes all black. Could that be that the program kicking just after X is having a pb and not X itself ? |
| 10:21.01 | mosty | logd, user a should chmod og-rwx all their files and dirs |
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| 10:22.07 | logd | mosty, that could be used in recursive mode ? |
| 10:22.12 | roxy_ | I can't find anything in kdm log either |
| 10:22.28 | the_sniff | hey |
| 10:22.28 | the_sniff | root@gold:/var/spool/postfix/defer# ls -l /var/spool/postfix/deferred/2 |
| 10:22.28 | the_sniff | ls: /var/spool/postfix/deferred/2: Permission denied |
| 10:22.32 | the_sniff | wtf is that :s |
| 10:22.35 | mosty | logd, sure. any intro to unix should cover this stuff |
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| 10:23.30 | EdLin | !sunday |
| 10:23.31 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
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| 10:24.04 | the_sniff | EdLin eh? |
| 10:24.24 | EdLin | yes |
| 10:24.48 | the_sniff | how is it possible that ls is denied? |
| 10:25.02 | roxy_ | the_sniff: no read perm |
| 10:25.08 | the_sniff | i am root |
| 10:25.11 | the_sniff | and i can't set it : |
| 10:25.13 | the_sniff | s |
| 10:25.58 | mohkohn | I am still having a problem with this vboxdrv setup. more info here http://paste.linux-vserver.org/10023 |
| 10:26.07 | EdLin | maybe ls is suid user somehow? ;-) |
| 10:26.23 | mohkohn | it seems common on google. I don't see a solution |
| 10:26.32 | the_sniff | EdLin for one file? |
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| 10:27.11 | the_sniff | wtf |
| 10:27.12 | the_sniff | ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? /var/spool/postfix/deferred/2 |
| 10:27.20 | Sebo | Hi!! I've changed my default locales (#dpkg-reconfigure locales) from UTF-8 to ISO8859-2 and now there are some squers insted polish accent characters on my term? I think I shuld install some package with ISO8859-2 console fonts. but which one?? |
| 10:27.42 | EdLin | the_sniff: ls -d that directory |
| 10:27.58 | the_sniff | EdLin still denied |
| 10:28.22 | EdLin | yes, but what's the permissions? |
| 10:28.45 | the_sniff | i can't see them since it's denied :S |
| 10:29.08 | EdLin | look at the permissions of the last readable directory in its tree. |
| 10:29.35 | the_sniff | i did |
| 10:29.35 | the_sniff | ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? /var/spool/postfix/deferred/2 |
| 10:29.38 | the_sniff | thats what i see |
| 10:29.59 | EdLin | OK, so what's the parent's perms? |
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| 10:30.28 | the_sniff | drwx------ |
| 10:30.33 | the_sniff | other dirs are readable |
| 10:31.04 | EdLin | what's the user of that directory? |
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| 10:31.11 | the_sniff | postfix |
| 10:31.14 | the_sniff | and group is root |
| 10:31.28 | EdLin | su postfix, see if you see it then. |
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| 10:32.22 | b0rsuk | Can anyone help me ? I'm trying to install Lenny from a cd, mobo Asus P5K SE (P35 chipset), SATA HDD and DVD drive. After booting the installer from CD, it says 'no common cd-rom drive was found'. I had similar problem with Kubuntu but I worked around it with generic.all_generic.ide=1 . Debian just says 'unknown boot option' . |
| 10:32.32 | the_sniff | EdLin yeah i see it |
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| 10:32.47 | EdLin | the_sniff, there's your answer. |
| 10:32.50 | the_sniff | oh, wait |
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| 10:32.58 | the_sniff | no i dont |
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| 10:33.22 | the_sniff | i was on defer instead of deferred |
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| 10:33.58 | the_sniff | EdLin i don't see ti :x |
| 10:34.23 | EdLin | could be file corruption |
| 10:34.36 | the_sniff | how do i fix it? remotely |
| 10:34.47 | EdLin | mount ro and fsck, remotely? That's a problem. |
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| 10:35.01 | the_sniff | bah |
| 10:35.04 | EdLin | hope you have backups. |
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| 10:35.15 | the_sniff | those "sysadmin" company are fscked up :X |
| 10:35.24 | the_sniff | yeah we'll let them do it |
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| 10:35.37 | the_sniff | the last thing happened is the system was restarted |
| 10:35.48 | EdLin | bingo. |
| 10:35.58 | EdLin | bad syncing. |
| 10:36.22 | the_sniff | damn it :x |
| 10:36.29 | the_sniff | btw, whats mount ro? |
| 10:36.31 | EdLin | of course, I could be barking up the wrong tree. |
| 10:36.39 | b0rsuk | Ok, another question. Can I install Debian from a mp3 player (USB) without bricking the player / damaging firmware ? |
| 10:36.57 | EdLin | the_sniff: man mount |
| 10:37.14 | the_sniff | oh |
| 10:37.15 | the_sniff | read only |
| 10:37.21 | marcus | hello, I'm thinking of setting up a system that has 4 monitors attach to it, and every screen running their own instance X, and I wondered if it is somewhat possible to when someone leaves one monitor and walks to another that he could get his login back? |
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| 10:37.50 | marcus | on the next monitor that is, with other input devices |
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| 10:38.29 | PythonNinja | if i load my current .config with a vanilla kernel it'll work ok right? |
| 10:38.33 | webczat | hi |
| 10:38.46 | the_sniff | EdLin how odd, postfix couldn't load |
| 10:38.48 | the_sniff | now it has |
| 10:38.51 | the_sniff | on its own :O |
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| 10:39.13 | EdLin | the_sniff: a cron job |
| 10:39.38 | the_sniff | yeah, but it had errors because of that dir! |
| 10:39.43 | the_sniff | and now the dir is still fscked |
| 10:39.47 | the_sniff | but it's loaded |
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| 10:40.17 | EdLin | interesting |
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| 10:41.13 | EdLin | if it isn't erroring out, there's probably some sort of differences in invocation |
| 10:41.24 | the_sniff | what does that mean? |
| 10:41.44 | EdLin | postfix was given commands that didn't make it go through that directory. |
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| 10:42.13 | the_sniff | oh |
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| 10:42.51 | EdLin | I assume its smart enough not to grind the platters / search the cache unnecesarily |
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| 10:43.10 | az0te | hello all |
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| 10:44.26 | PythonNinja | anyone got ideas about my kernel issue...? |
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| 10:45.44 | az0te | anyone to help to confugre ftp-proxy ??? |
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| 10:46.21 | mohkohn | this may be my vbox solution. http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/expert/2007-06/msg00343.php |
| 10:47.46 | jelly-home | !why is libc6 not in testing |
| 10:47.46 | dpkg | libc6 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libc6 |
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| 10:47.58 | mohkohn | nmi_watchdog=0 never heard of that before |
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| 10:48.07 | mohkohn | what does it do? |
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| 10:53.35 | LovNPeace | When somebody IP attacks your computer with ssh password cracking, what is beter (1) attack them back , or (2) block their IP in the firewall, or (3) both ? |
| 10:53.48 | PythonNinja | LovNPeace: dude, iptables |
| 10:53.49 | jelly-home | definitely not (1) |
| 10:53.56 | PythonNinja | make it drop packets after 8 tries in one min |
| 10:54.06 | PythonNinja | forget how though, i have it set up on my server |
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| 10:54.14 | roxy_ | when X starts, I only got a black screen. There is no error messages in X logs. It looks like everything went well. What can I check ? |
| 10:54.25 | jelly-home | !info fail2ban |
| 10:54.27 | dpkg | fail2ban: (bans IPs that cause multiple authentication errors), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 76 kB, Installed size: 588 kB |
| 10:54.35 | roxy_ | I am using dual screen, with 1 screen everything works well. |
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| 10:54.51 | internat85 | fail2 ban is a bit laggy though |
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| 10:55.19 | internat85 | and can chew a bit of resources if ur on a low resourced box |
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| 10:57.17 | jelly-home | There's a number of places that have a simple solution using ipt_recent, http://www.google.com/search?num=25&hl=en&safe=off&q=ssh+whitelist+iptables&btnG=Search |
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| 11:02.23 | DustyBin | im using fluxbox with mythtv but every time i boot into the mythtv user and start fluxbox it creates a .serverauth file, ps aux looks like this: 0:00 xinit /home/mythtv/.xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc -auth /home/mythtv/.serverauth.3325 how do you stop .serverauths from being created? |
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| 11:03.34 | liable | who knows what ipcp timeout means trying to use an evdo wan card? |
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| 11:04.00 | liable | sending config requests |
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| 11:07.03 | DawnLight | DustyBin: what do you "boot into the mythtv user"? |
| 11:07.11 | DawnLight | *mean |
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| 11:07.46 | dutchfish | liable, maybe the ipcp packets got changed on its way through ppp, and never reached destination, because ipcp packets may not be altered |
| 11:07.59 | DustyBin | DawnLight: i use a .xinitrc file inside the mythtv home folder what contains, exec fluxbox |
| 11:08.18 | liable | dutchfish: hmm, and what would i do to stop that? |
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| 11:08.45 | dutchfish | liable, check wich/who altered it, (wire-shark) |
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| 11:08.56 | DawnLight | DustyBin: why is there such a user, named 'mythtv'? |
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| 11:09.19 | liable | dutchfish: i cant use wireshark on a raw dev, the ppp iface isnt actually made |
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| 11:11.03 | dutchfish | liable, why not? |
| 11:11.18 | liable | well, i guess it is, but only for 20 secs |
| 11:11.39 | DustyBin | actually its my .profile file what contains, startx. and my .xinitrc contains, exec fluxbox |
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| 11:11.49 | dutchfish | liable, that are eons for wireshark ;) |
| 11:11.59 | DustyBin | mythtv user is created by default when you install mythtv |
| 11:12.48 | dutchfish | liable, maybe your phys layer is so broken, that ppp cant sustain? |
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| 11:14.47 | liable | dutchfish: hmm, dunno, the config works through bluetooth with my phone, but my built in evdo card fails, but i dunno if the telco not liking the sim in the built in card |
| 11:16.01 | dutchfish | liable, can you post a snippet of your log to pastebin? |
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| 11:16.45 | liable | dutchfish: not much to it, chap is succesfull and then i get ipcp request timeouts |
| 11:17.09 | dutchfish | liable, that means your ppp isnt formed yet |
| 11:18.04 | dutchfish | liable, mmm ... unclear |
| 11:19.13 | liable | dutchfish: ya, apparently this card works with this providor under windows. but its difficult to find the magic pppd string to make it happy in linux |
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| 11:19.51 | dutchfish | liable, you could use ms free tools for packsniffing |
| 11:20.05 | liable | i dont have windows on this box |
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| 11:20.45 | dutchfish | liable, or just tcpdump it |
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| 11:21.16 | stoffepojken | screen -list |
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| 11:21.24 | the_sniff | oops |
| 11:21.24 | the_sniff | sorry |
| 11:22.07 | nanonyme | no one wouldn't happen to know if you can tell apt to prefer ipv4 over ipv6 in a config file |
| 11:22.13 | nanonyme | oops, forgot ? |
| 11:22.38 | liable | what do you mean? |
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| 11:23.22 | nanonyme | foo.bar.com has both ipv4 and ipv6 ip addresses. can you tell apt to try ipv4 first instead of ipv6? |
| 11:23.23 | dutchfish | liable, do you see also somehtin glike : Received Terminate Ack (1) state = Req-Sent (6) |
| 11:23.30 | nanonyme | arhm |
| 11:23.42 | nanonyme | sorry, joined late, i thought my question was obscure :P |
| 11:24.38 | jelly-home | disable ipv6? |
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| 11:25.17 | nanonyme | bad option and besides the question |
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| 11:25.50 | nanonyme | you should be able to choose which one you want on program level too, not just OS level |
| 11:26.46 | dutchfish | /etc/apt/sources.list -> deb http://debian.seabone.net/debian etch ipv4 |
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| 11:28.24 | nanonyme | i was rather waiting on some config line in apt.conf ;) oh, well. i suppose that works too |
| 11:28.26 | liable | dutchfish: it appears i send but get no reply |
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| 11:29.13 | nanonyme | apt:: something that tells it not to use ipv6 or whatever. if such a feature does not exists, imo it should |
| 11:29.19 | dutchfish | liable, i gues its all up to the magic numbers then, or link is phys b0rken |
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| 11:30.19 | liable | dutchfish: i dont think the link, as it gets a succesfull chap |
| 11:31.01 | dutchfish | liable, i made that mistake one smyself, succes on Chap is no prove of a good link |
| 11:31.25 | liable | hmm |
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| 11:34.45 | dutchfish | liable, i would not give up yet, my knowledge of this is not expertlevel, suggest to ask xingu when he comes on |
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| 11:37.04 | liable | dutchfish: i aint giving up, my ppp experience is low, i'll plod away at it, its not important, just one of those things i want to work out |
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| 11:38.53 | dutchfish | liable, thats the spirit ;) |
| 11:39.25 | sinus | i have a problem with postfix |
| 11:39.30 | sinus | someone can help me |
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| 11:39.52 | hoxu | !ask |
| 11:39.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 11:40.49 | sinus | i retrive all the mail with fetchmail an uses postfix and amavis ans spamassassin |
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| 11:41.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | anyone seen this behaviour before? http://pastebin.ca/803596 apt-get is giving me a "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" |
| 11:41.35 | sinus | some mails which has empty from send to another user no the user which i retrieve the mail for example |
| 11:42.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | i get the same MMap error trying to `apt-cache search` too |
| 11:42.02 | sinus | Dec 2 13:00:28 ell postfix/smtp[2784]: 5D99723443C: to=<LauritopsyTilley@hotelpresident.cz>, relay=mspool.gts.cz[193.85.2.11]:25, delay=31, delays=0.06/0.03/31/0.61, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok: queued as BF58E120725) |
| 11:42.26 | sinus | sends to another user in another server not drops in my fetchmail account |
| 11:43.00 | liable | dutchfish: hrm, Protocol-Reject for 'Compression Control Protocol' (0x80fd) received |
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| 11:43.02 | hoxu | Kamping_Kaiser, I bet your root partition is full or something akin :P |
| 11:43.27 | dutchfish | liable, and: Received Terminate Ack (1) state = Req-Sent (6) ??? |
| 11:43.27 | valdyn | !dynamic mmap ran out of room |
| 11:43.29 | liable | !mmap |
| 11:43.30 | dpkg | Getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get? Put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . If you still get the same error, increase the value. If that file doesn't exist, add it, or put that line in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ You can also possibly get rid of this error by deleting entries from your sources.list that you don't actually need. |
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| 11:43.43 | liable | dutchfish: na |
| 11:43.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | hoxu, / has 114mb free, /var has 630, /tmp has 218 |
| 11:43.55 | hoxu | Kamping_Kaiser, see above :p |
| 11:44.07 | liable | dutchfish: then it seems to wait for lcp echo requests |
| 11:44.07 | dutchfish | liable, both are related to compression protocol |
| 11:44.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | liable, cheers |
| 11:44.17 | liable | yw |
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| 11:45.55 | dutchfish | liable, can you try uncompressed? |
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| 11:47.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | is that Cache-Limit in bytes? |
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| 11:47.18 | liable | dutchfish: how do you set that? |
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| 11:48.03 | fasta | How do I get a PS/2 mouse working in Debian on the console? (I want to make sure that works first before I try X). I verified that it works in Windows. |
| 11:48.08 | liable | not in ppd options |
| 11:48.16 | fasta | I already loaded the psmouse driver |
| 11:48.21 | liable | gpm |
| 11:48.24 | jelly-home | Is packages.qa.debian.org adead? |
| 11:48.44 | petemc | aye |
| 11:48.50 | fasta | liable: I have gpm installed and it did work with the USB mouse I had before. |
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| 11:49.20 | fasta | liable: I just want that moving the mouse + cat /dev/psaux shows random garbage. |
| 11:49.32 | fasta | (which isn't the case now) |
| 11:49.51 | kombi | quite some stuff in /var/cache/apt, can one just erase it? |
| 11:49.54 | jelly-home | thanks, petemc |
| 11:50.07 | kombi | or is there apt-flush cache?;) |
| 11:50.12 | hoxu | kombi, apt-get clean |
| 11:50.21 | kombi | thanks hoxu! |
| 11:50.54 | expose | how do i make the apt-bot here tell me the list of it's entrys? |
| 11:51.14 | hoxu | expose, you beat it repeatedly until it spits all of the factoids out |
| 11:51.23 | hoxu | !bot abuse |
| 11:51.36 | dutchfish | liable, grep -rs ppp /etc/modprobe.* there should be ppp_generic |
| 11:52.00 | fasta | Can I list all the ps/2 devices somehow? |
| 11:52.02 | hoxu | expose, seriously though, try querying it and the "listkeys <name>" and "listvalues <name>" commands |
| 11:52.15 | expose | thanks |
| 11:52.16 | liable | dutchfish: i cant unload that atm as i am using dialup :( |
| 11:52.29 | jelly-home | !factoids |
| 11:52.44 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/ |
| 11:52.54 | expose | oh, i queried apt not dpkg. maybe thats why it wont work |
| 11:53.10 | dutchfish | liable, of coarse, mmm ... it is getting over my head, its too long ago i used this all, partly remember |
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| 11:53.38 | liable | dutchfish: np, i'll keep at it, thanks |
| 11:53.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | APT::Cache-Limit 67108864; is working :) |
| 11:53.50 | apt | Kamping_Kaiser: okay |
| 11:54.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | o_0 when did we grow an apt? |
| 11:54.20 | dutchfish | liable, at the top of my had ipcp must be uncimpressed till compression is nagotiated |
| 11:55.01 | hoxu | apt, forget APT::Cache-Limit 67108864; |
| 11:55.01 | apt | i didn't have anything called 'apt::cache-limit 67108864;' to forget, hoxu |
| 11:55.05 | hoxu | eh |
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| 11:55.42 | dutchfish | liable, ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1979.txt |
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| 11:56.03 | kombi | what large lumps of data can one get rid off to lighten a standard installation? |
| 11:56.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | openoffice? |
| 11:56.36 | mikeX | hello, running aptitude 0.4.9 (debian sid) and it seems to ignore the --without-recommends flag completely |
| 11:56.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | Xorg :D |
| 11:56.50 | jelly-home | hoxu: perhaps ":Cache-Limit 67108864;", since APT: is addressing the bot |
| 11:56.51 | hoxu | kombi, you could install debian-goodies and run dpigs |
| 11:56.59 | sinus | My postfix configuration no maildrops de mail that i retrieve with fetchmail Dec 2 13:00:28 xxxxx postfix/smtp[2784]: 5D99723443C: to=<LauritopsyTilley@hotelpresident.cz>, relay=mspool.gts.cz[193.85.2.11]:25, delay=31, delays=0.06/0.03/31/0.61, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok: queued as BF58E120725) |
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| 11:57.09 | kombi | hoxu: thanks, I'll try that |
| 11:57.11 | aksn | hi all |
| 11:57.12 | hoxu | jelly-home, yeah, "APT::" apparently addressed the bot, made it forget it already |
| 11:57.28 | mikeX | I'm trying to install lexlive-latex-recommended which depends only on (already installed) texlive-common and texlive-latex-base, but no matter what I do, it wants to download 250MB of useless texlive-* packages (locallized versions etc) |
| 11:58.02 | hoxu | mikeX, using aptitude and enabled installation of recommended packages? |
| 11:58.03 | aksn | i'm trying to install debian testing netinst in a hp 6710b laptop, but it can not boot and i get no error message; any ideas? |
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| 11:58.37 | dutchfish | sinus, http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#mydestination and man postmap |
| 11:58.39 | hoxu | aksn, where does the boot exactly fail? |
| 11:58.56 | mikeX | hoxu: I have disabled the option in aptitude, I have tried from the command line with '--without-recommends' but no luck |
| 11:59.02 | mikeX | apt-get behaves similarly |
| 11:59.09 | Rapp | hi. does debian have something akin to /etc/init.d/boot.local on other distros? that is a script executed during boot time to put some local commands into? |
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| 11:59.21 | valdyn | mikeX: apt-cache rdepends texlive-lang-german ( or any other lang ) |
| 11:59.26 | streuner_ | Rapp: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 11:59.34 | aksn | hoxu, it starts booting, and after 5 secs of hw recognition |
| 11:59.37 | expose | whats the difference between "aptitude install foo/unstable" and "aptitude -t unstable install foo"? if i'd use apt-get, only the latter would also upgrade dependencies, the former would fail (if any deps are needed) right? but what for aptitude? |
| 11:59.40 | hoxu | mikeX, maybe the upgraded dependencies depend on more packages than before? |
| 11:59.47 | valdyn | mikeX: already texlive-common depends on it. |
| 11:59.50 | Rapp | streuner_: thanks |
| 11:59.53 | SRabbelier | Heya, how can I make pkg-config update it's list of installed packages? |
| 12:00.30 | mikeX | the real dependencies are not updated |
| 12:00.36 | mikeX | upgraded* |
| 12:00.38 | valdyn | mikeX: "real" ? |
| 12:00.47 | mikeX | the one in 'Depends:' |
| 12:00.50 | hoxu | valdyn, direct I guess |
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| 12:00.53 | abchirk | http://nopaste.info/05cb1dbfae.html < how do I fix that with export? |
| 12:00.56 | valdyn | mikeX: the lang packages ARE real depends |
| 12:01.28 | mikeX | valdyn: they are not listed in the Depends section |
| 12:01.40 | streuner_ | abchirk: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 12:01.49 | valdyn | mikeX: they are listed in the Depends section of texlive-common |
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| 12:02.03 | oliver_g1 | hello |
| 12:02.28 | mikeX | valdyn: I only have 'tex-common' there |
| 12:02.29 | oliver_g1 | I have some problems with -dbg packages... |
| 12:02.55 | dutchfish | abchirk, apt-get istall locales && dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 12:03.03 | beardy | If locales is not installed, where is the default system locale defined? I have a box whining that no locale is set, so it falls back to "C", which I want it to use, but apparently it is not set, there. The "locales" factoid talks of /etc/default/locale, but I don't have that, on the box in question, or another one. |
| 12:03.08 | mikeX | which only haves debconf and ucf as dependencies, so where are those lang pacakges? |
| 12:03.15 | mikeX | has* |
| 12:03.22 | dutchfish | abchirk, install* |
| 12:03.36 | abchirk | yeah I do it right now. :) Lets see |
| 12:04.06 | oliver_g1 | the CRC of the /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1400.0 debug lib doesn't match the CRC specified in /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0.0.10 |
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| 12:04.24 | oliver_g1 | any idea why the CRC doesn't match? |
| 12:05.00 | azeem_ | oliver_g1: what do you mean exactly? |
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| 12:05.41 | mikeX | valdyn, hoxu http://packages.debian.org/sid/texlive-latex-recommended |
| 12:05.47 | hoxu | beardy, tried "export LC_ALL=C" and rerunning the program that whines about falling back? |
| 12:05.47 | oliver_g1 | azeem: I want to use sysprof for profiling; but it says "<lib xyz> has wrong crc" for all libs |
| 12:06.11 | azeem | oliver_g1: no idea what that means, look up the sysprof documentation |
| 12:06.31 | abchirk | mh dutchfish and streuner_ I still get the same error. but I have choosen two locales. :P |
| 12:06.42 | beardy | hoxu: Yes, that will work. Thanks.. I _can_ set it in /etc/profile aswell, but by default, that's not where it is set. |
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| 12:07.22 | streuner_ | abchirk: choose one first |
| 12:07.55 | beardy | hoxu: So, I want to figure out where it is set. It is perl (when I run aptitude and then dpkg, that whines.) |
| 12:08.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | should apt-get source honour the -t <release> switch? |
| 12:08.48 | oliver_g1 | azeem: sysprof doesn't really have much doc :-/ and I think it's rather a general problem with my debug libs |
| 12:09.28 | oliver_g1 | anyone here have experience with -dbg packages and using them? |
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| 12:10.37 | dutchfish | streuner_, if you are not root but a sudoer you need to logout/login to get new locale setings for that user |
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| 12:12.21 | streuner_ | dutchfish: tell that abchirk, not me please |
| 12:12.35 | dutchfish | streuner_, yep, sorry |
| 12:13.00 | streuner_ | abchirk: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 12:13.30 | abchirk | mh yes...I get errors from dpgk-reconfigure.-> http://nopaste.info/c05e2b9ab5.html |
| 12:14.07 | abchirk | dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 12:14.07 | abchirk | ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 12:14.07 | dpkg | ii libc6 | tail -1 3.4-5.3 abchirk's private stamp collection |
| 12:14.57 | streuner_ | abchirk: is locales installed? |
| 12:15.04 | abchirk | yes |
| 12:15.34 | streuner_ | ok, try what dutchfish told you then |
| 12:15.46 | b0rsuk | Hey, is VFAT the same as FAT32 ? Or am I missing something ? |
| 12:16.10 | mikeX | valdyn: how can rdepends show texlive-common when texlive-common doesn't have it in Depends? |
| 12:16.13 | b0rsuk | I can't find a clear explanation of what VFAT is. |
| 12:16.20 | abchirk | streuner_ yes locales seems to work. :) |
| 12:16.24 | streuner_ | !vfat |
| 12:16.25 | dpkg | well, vfat is a very fat 32 bit version of a pathetic filesystem, or apt-get install dosfstools, then man mkfs.vfat, or for info on getting write access for regular users, "/msg apt vfatrw", or you should not be using this filesystem unless Windows needs to read it. |
| 12:16.40 | abchirk | but I cannot run adduser. :( |
| 12:16.57 | streuner_ | error? |
| 12:17.10 | abchirk | adduser |
| 12:17.11 | abchirk | adduser: Only one or two names allowed. |
| 12:17.30 | abchirk | Yesterday it worked. |
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| 12:18.07 | streuner_ | adduser <user> <group> |
| 12:18.56 | PiousMinion | When creating a new user it asks for personal info other than login name and password. Is there an easy way to change this info other than editing /etc/passwd by hand? |
| 12:19.22 | abchirk | eh, right. argÃķ |
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| 12:19.39 | aksn | i'm trying to install debian testing netinst in a hp 6710b laptop, but it can not boot and i get no error message; any ideas? |
| 12:19.49 | abchirk | I need a break. :S thx dutchfish and streuner_ :) |
| 12:19.51 | azeem | PiousMinion: chfn |
| 12:20.00 | abchirk | But its working now. :=) |
| 12:20.08 | beardy | aksn: Can it boot another disc? |
| 12:20.12 | PiousMinion | azeem: thanks |
| 12:20.40 | aksn | beardy, yes, it starts booting debian, but it gets stopped in 5 seconds, with no error message |
| 12:21.03 | beardy | aksn: Where does it stop, last message? |
| 12:21.10 | aksn | maybe a verbose mode or something could help.. |
| 12:21.19 | aksn | beardy, i can't read it, it's so fast |
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| 12:22.02 | dutchfish | aksn, did you try to boo tin savemode? |
| 12:22.09 | beardy | aksn: expert26 |
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| 12:22.38 | aksn | i tried t boot "linux expert" but i don't get any more error messages |
| 12:22.49 | beardy | aksn: Not more verbose when booting though.. Well, can you boot another thing from cd, entirely? |
| 12:23.10 | aksn | beardy, yes, it boots correctly an xp cd |
| 12:23.22 | beardy | aksn: Either your disc is bad, or something with your hardware is bad. |
| 12:23.33 | beardy | aksn: At what speed did you burn your netinstall cd? |
| 12:23.40 | aksn | it must be a hardware problem.. |
| 12:23.48 | aksn | beardy, at max 40x |
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| 12:24.14 | dutchfish | aksn, is there a compitability mode switch in bios for sata? |
| 12:24.32 | beardy | aksn: Do it again, MUCH slower. 4x or so. |
| 12:24.47 | beardy | What has sata got to do with booting from a cd? |
| 12:24.49 | aksn | dutchfish, no idea, i'll take a look |
| 12:25.06 | dutchfish | beardy, latest models have |
| 12:25.32 | beardy | dutchfish: I see.. but why can he boot it up at all then? |
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| 12:25.39 | dutchfish | beardy, i had this problem myself not even able to boot win 2000 cd on that machines |
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| 12:26.20 | dutchfish | beardy, per example dell xps 210, has same problem |
| 12:26.35 | levander | Is there any utility to check for bad blocks on a disk? I've seen ones that just use MS Windows services (i.e., not specific to which hard drive you're checking) to check disks for this. Are there any Linux ones? |
| 12:26.39 | beardy | aksn: Well, check that first then, if dutchfish is right. If you still got problems after that, make a new disc at LOW speed. |
| 12:27.06 | beardy | levander: /msg dpkg fsck |
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| 12:27.55 | levander | beardy: I thought that just checked filesystems, it checks physical disks for bad blocks too? |
| 12:27.55 | aksn | beardy, i'll check it, thanks a lot! |
| 12:28.07 | beardy | levander: Ah.. no, it doesn't. |
| 12:28.17 | dutchfish | beardy, aksn after succesfull install, flip the switch back to default |
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| 12:29.43 | aksn | dutchfish, ok, thanks |
| 12:29.56 | levander | Anybody have any idea why according to 'hdparm -tT' I'm only getting 17.5 MB/s buffered disk reads off an ATA100 disk attached to an ATA33 controller? And yes, I have DMA turned on. The disk is in UDMA2 mode. |
| 12:30.02 | beardy | levander: I don't recall the name of it, but there is such a thing, IIRC, yes. |
| 12:30.05 | Trewas | levander: there is option -c in e2fsck, it runs badblocks(8) then in addition to normal fsck |
| 12:30.43 | levander | Trewas: tx, i'm looking at the badblocks man page now, it's an XFS filesystem. |
| 12:31.47 | beardy | Trewas: Thanks. |
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| 12:33.02 | internat85 | whats the command to background a task without killing or pausing it |
| 12:33.15 | internat85 | i thought it was ctrl + z but im wrong |
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| 12:33.20 | Danker | Hi |
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| 12:33.36 | hoxu | internat85, bg |
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| 12:33.57 | beardy | internat85: You have to start it in the background, 'command &', or suspend it, as you said, then 'bg'. |
| 12:34.01 | liable | hrm, theres a real driver for my sierra card now |
| 12:34.17 | Danker | Is there any way to install one testing package with it dependencies? |
| 12:34.21 | internat85 | ta |
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| 12:34.35 | aksn | dutchfish, i can only find a "sata native mode" ON/OFF option |
| 12:34.55 | dutchfish | aksn, yup thats the one |
| 12:35.04 | dutchfish | aksn, flip it |
| 12:35.23 | aksn | dutchfish, ok, let's probe! :-) |
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| 12:42.58 | Helmi | heyho - can anyone imagine why my aliases don't work on one of 3 machines with etch? i have the .bash_profile and .bashrc in ~/ in place and nearly everything is like the other machines but i can't get my aliases to work :( |
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| 12:43.59 | netspliter | Hello!!! |
| 12:44.04 | netspliter | i need some help ultra fast!!! |
| 12:44.05 | hoxu | Helmi, are those aliases in .bash_profile? |
| 12:44.07 | netspliter | please someone? |
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| 12:44.21 | hoxu | !annoy bob2 |
| 12:44.21 | dpkg | Why do i get "NO SCREENS FOUND"?!?! HELP ME FUX0RS!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:44.29 | netspliter | With apache, my apache is totally f*u*cked |
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| 12:44.35 | netspliter | Starting web server (apache2)...apache2: bad group name www-data |
| 12:44.40 | Helmi | hoxu, no they are in .bashrc but .bash_profile includes this |
| 12:44.51 | Helmi | # include .bashrc if it exists |
| 12:44.51 | Helmi | if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then |
| 12:44.51 | Helmi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.51 | Helmi | fi |
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| 12:44.58 | hoxu | !tell helmi about paste |
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| 12:45.10 | Helmi | sorry for flooding :S |
| 12:45.13 | netspliter | someone please help me? |
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| 12:45.46 | hoxu | netspliter, are you using debian and apache2 package or did you install from tarballs or something? |
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| 12:46.03 | hoxu | Helmi, do the aliases "work" if you type ". ~/.bashrc"? |
| 12:46.11 | Helmi | hockenberry, let me try |
| 12:46.30 | Helmi | hoxu yeah they do |
| 12:46.55 | Helmi | after typing this i get parts of the .bashrc output to the shell |
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| 12:47.45 | netspliter | someone please i have a problem with apache |
| 12:47.48 | netspliter | anyone willing to help? |
| 12:48.03 | dutchfish | !tell netspliter about ask |
| 12:48.14 | hoxu | netspliter, did ou miss my line above? |
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| 12:48.30 | DustyBin | i want to install all the dependancies of a package whats in unstable using stable, is there a way of doing that? |
| 12:48.31 | hoxu | Helmi, pastebin the whole file and link it |
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| 12:48.57 | Danker | DustyBin: I am interested in that too |
| 12:49.06 | Helmi | hoxu, the .bashrc or bash_profile? |
| 12:49.20 | hoxu | Helmi, .bashrc |
| 12:49.21 | DustyBin | Danker: i basically want to compile something myself, but id like to install all the stable dependances |
| 12:49.27 | netspliter | Ihave a proble, with apache when i try to start it via ssh on my dedicated server it tells me: Starting web server (apache2)...apache2: bad group name www-data |
| 12:49.27 | netspliter | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:50.03 | Helmi | hoxu, http://paste.debian.net/43977 the part below the snip is the output i talked about |
| 12:50.05 | hoxu | netspliter, did you miss my question earlier, and the one line after that asking if you missed it? |
| 12:50.09 | DustyBin | Danker: i could do it manually by doing a apt-get install in unstable and stopping it then use that list to do it myself |
| 12:50.15 | hoxu | netspliter, "are you using debian and apache2 package or did you install from tarballs or something?" |
| 12:50.43 | netspliter | i am using debian and i thinki apache 2, i am a complete linux noob i had someone to install it for me |
| 12:50.49 | Danker | Now I am doing manually in another way - downloading package and its dependencies from web... |
| 12:51.06 | netspliter | i think he installed it with ispconfig panel |
| 12:51.09 | netspliter | or webmin possibly |
| 12:51.22 | dutchfish | or plesk? |
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| 12:51.25 | netspliter | no |
| 12:51.30 | netspliter | not plesk or anything else |
| 12:51.37 | netspliter | all i have is webmin and ispconfig |
| 12:51.39 | hoxu | netspliter, seems weird, www-data group should be automatically created if you just install the debian package for apache2 |
| 12:51.52 | netspliter | it worked perfectly till afew mins |
| 12:51.53 | netspliter | ago |
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| 12:52.36 | hoxu | Helmi, on the eval line, those "'" should be backticks "`" |
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| 12:54.53 | hoxu | Helmi, when you've fixed that, open a new terminal and type ". ~/.bash_profile" and see if the aliases work |
| 12:55.19 | netspliter | crap am screwed... |
| 12:55.41 | dutchfish | netspliter, what did you change? |
| 12:55.46 | netspliter | nothing!!! |
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| 12:55.50 | netspliter | apache went down |
| 12:55.54 | netspliter | i went to start it |
| 12:55.56 | netspliter | and i get that error |
| 12:55.59 | netspliter | :( |
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| 12:56.14 | hoxu | netspliter, so something was probably changed after the last time you restarted it |
| 12:56.24 | netspliter | possible but i have no idea |
| 12:56.56 | Helmi | hoxu, okay thanks will try - standby |
| 12:57.50 | yoyo | wowoowoowowowooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 12:57.50 | expose | I got the target release testing as priority 900 and unstable as -10 in apt/preferences. if i now aptitude install foo/unstable and do an aptitude upgrade later, foo will be upgraded only, if the version in testing is newer than the one which was in unstable when i first installed, right? |
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| 12:58.17 | dutchfish | netspliter, first calm down, and examine your apache2 log files, you can find them normally at /var/log/apache2/ |
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| 12:58.28 | Helmi | hoxu, yeah calling the bash_profile does work now - after logging into the system they didn't work |
| 12:58.41 | netspliter | what should i look for? |
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| 12:58.48 | netspliter | User www-data |
| 12:58.49 | netspliter | Group www-dat |
| 12:58.50 | netspliter | no change |
| 12:58.50 | netspliter | :S |
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| 12:58.58 | PiousMinion | ./configure |
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| 12:59.05 | netspliter | back |
| 12:59.05 | PiousMinion | wrong window. lol |
| 12:59.06 | netspliter | sorry |
| 12:59.19 | hoxu | Helmi, weird, .bash_profile should be executed for login shell if you use bash |
| 12:59.22 | vonnis | hello |
| 12:59.25 | simonrvn | PiousMinion: apparently :P |
| 12:59.39 | netspliter | User www-data Group www-dat no change :S |
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| 13:00.03 | simonrvn | www-data, i suppose that was a typo |
| 13:00.10 | netspliter | no |
| 13:00.13 | netspliter | that was a copy paste |
| 13:00.20 | simonrvn | er |
| 13:00.32 | simonrvn | problem dat |
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| 13:00.47 | PiousMinion | www-data != www-dat |
| 13:00.53 | Helmi | hoxu, can this have to do with /etc/bash.basrc or something like that? i did some changes there also - maybe also such a backtick problem!? i'll have look |
| 13:01.13 | netspliter | wait |
| 13:01.16 | netspliter | i will try |
| 13:01.31 | vonnis | can anyone tell me how i can connect to a wireless acces point? |
| 13:01.36 | hoxu | errhm |
| 13:01.37 | hoxu | !sunday |
| 13:01.37 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 13:01.42 | yoyo | i fuck ubuntu |
| 13:01.51 | netspliter | lol |
| 13:02.01 | PiousMinion | vonnis: what chipset does your wifi card have? |
| 13:02.02 | dutchfish | !sunday |
| 13:02.02 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 13:02.06 | simonrvn | that's nice and off topic |
| 13:02.13 | vonnis | can anyone tell me how i can connect to a wireless acces point? |
| 13:02.22 | PiousMinion | vonnis: what chipset does your wifi card have? |
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| 13:02.41 | vonnis | atheros |
| 13:03.41 | PiousMinion | vonnis: Look in /etc/network/interfaces for an entry for your wireless device. Does it exist? |
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| 13:04.25 | Helmi | hoxu, just to be sure - this is what the ~/.bash_profile looks like: http://paste.debian.net/43980 |
| 13:04.54 | netspliter | I FIXED IT!!! |
| 13:04.59 | netspliter | i love you all!!! |
| 13:05.11 | vonnis | this is what it says auto lo |
| 13:05.11 | vonnis | iface lo inet loopback |
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| 13:05.34 | hoxu | netspliter, as a return favor, maybe you should disclose the exact type of weed you are smoking |
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| 13:05.47 | PiousMinion | vonnis: do you have an entry for vlan0 or eth[0,1, etc] ? |
| 13:05.48 | Helmi | :D |
| 13:05.50 | hoxu | Helmi, that seems ok, I suspect the /etc files if you modified those |
| 13:05.53 | dutchfish | hoxu, ;) |
| 13:05.57 | vonnis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.25 | Helmi | hoxu, i already had a look at them and they look perfectly identical to the ones on the other machines :-U |
| 13:07.00 | PiousMinion | vonnis: see my /msg :) |
| 13:08.36 | hoxu | Helmi, hum, where the aliases don't work, exactly? Console login, X terminal, or what? |
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| 13:09.25 | cahoot | vonnis: try /msg dpkg madwifi |
| 13:09.32 | Helmi | hoxu, ssh connection to the shell |
| 13:10.39 | vonnis | i cant send private messages here? |
| 13:10.56 | buscon | vonnis, you need to be registered |
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| 13:11.21 | hoxu | Helmi, really weird, can you paste your /etc/bash.bashrc? |
| 13:11.34 | Helmi | hoxu, sure, standby and thanks for your help |
| 13:11.34 | hoxu | !private massage |
| 13:11.35 | dpkg | well, private massage is what sussudio does to his badgers |
| 13:11.40 | hoxu | err, wrong factoid |
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| 13:11.42 | hoxu | !private |
| 13:11.42 | dpkg | NO, we will NOT help you in private! Ask your question in the channel so that others can help. Don't send private messages to people asking for help, either, or you will be /ignore'd. |
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| 13:12.25 | Chri2 | hi, i have just installed yesterdays build of the debian net install, set a static ip, and now when i try to download webmin or lighttpd it says that it fails to download it |
| 13:12.30 | Helmi | hoxu, http://paste.debian.net/43981 |
| 13:12.39 | Chri2 | i have run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade |
| 13:12.53 | PiousMinion | vonnis: that might explain why I was thinking you were unresponsive. heh |
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| 13:14.09 | Helmi | Chris1, and apt-get update worked well when getting the newest package indexes? |
| 13:14.22 | dutchfish | stupid q: how do i create /etc/init.d/iptables the debian way, if my memory is not clouded by altzheimers, it was there in woody, and maybe sarge, but in etch its def gone.... |
| 13:14.51 | Chris1 | http://pastebin.com/m659a5c85 |
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| 13:15.17 | hoxu | Helmi, I'm out of ideas, /etc/bash.bashrc should be executed before ~/.bashrc, so I think it should work... |
| 13:15.52 | Chris1 | apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/m5baa1ae6 |
| 13:15.53 | hoxu | Helmi, you could try with stock /etc bash resource files |
| 13:16.42 | dutchfish | Chris1, http://merkel.debian.org/~jeroen/mirrorstatus.html |
| 13:16.50 | Helmi | hoxu, hmm yeah i already thought about that - what would be the easiest way to get them without installing a clean etch on a vm :) |
| 13:17.26 | hoxu | !tell Helmi about confmiss |
| 13:17.51 | hoxu | move them out of the way to a safe place first, then reinstall the packages that contain them (bash?), use dpkg -S /path/to/file to check the package name if unsure :p |
| 13:18.48 | Helmi | hoxu, thanks for the hints - i'll give it a try |
| 13:18.59 | hoxu | Chris1, a problem with your setup, isp or somewhere before the server anyway? Tried traceroute yet? |
| 13:19.00 | Chris1 | dutchfish: the one i'm trying to use is up? |
| 13:19.06 | Chris1 | no |
| 13:19.32 | hoxu | Chris1, how did you configure the static ip anyway? |
| 13:19.41 | hoxu | Chris1, also check if "route -n" looks sane |
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| 13:20.01 | Chris1 | erm, ifconfig eth0 <address> |
| 13:20.23 | hoxu | Chris1, heh, what about the netmask, gateway...? :P |
| 13:21.30 | Chris1 | lol... |
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| 13:22.50 | multi_io | how do I start Xnest with 8 bits per pixel PseudoColor? |
| 13:22.52 | multi_io | is that possible at all? |
| 13:23.07 | Chris1 | hoxu: sorted it now ;) |
| 13:23.11 | Chris1 | oh no |
| 13:23.16 | Chris1 | maybe i havent |
| 13:23.22 | hoxu | Chris1, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:24.09 | Chris1 | http://pastebin.com/m23711e18 |
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| 13:25.12 | hoxu | Chris1, ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 13:25.14 | Helmi | hoxu, hmm when i do 'bash -l' it works - probably the aliases only fire on the wrong shell and what i use isn't really a login shell? i'm kinda confused :S |
| 13:25.29 | Chris1 | hoxu: what do you mean |
| 13:25.37 | hoxu | Helmi, what's your default shell? |
| 13:25.42 | Helmi | hoxu, according to the comments all the stuff in the .bash* files is for login shells only |
| 13:25.46 | Azar | Chris1: that source of yours is unreacheable: change source |
| 13:25.47 | hoxu | Chris1, type that to bring eth0 down & up, as root |
| 13:25.59 | Helmi | hoxu, i didn't change anything on the default shell - how can i find out what i use? |
| 13:26.11 | Chris1 | debian:/home/*****# ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 13:26.11 | Chris1 | SIOCDELRT: No such process |
| 13:26.15 | Helmi | hoxu, omg - i think i know now :( |
| 13:26.25 | hoxu | Chris1, hold on a sec, are you ircing from that box? :p |
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| 13:26.28 | Helmi | hoxu, guess i forgot to give my user a shell when adding it :( |
| 13:26.34 | Chris1 | nope |
| 13:26.41 | Chris1 | ssh to the box though |
| 13:26.41 | Azar | Chris1: your connection is fine, your source is bad |
| 13:26.43 | hoxu | Helmi, heh, good you found it out :) |
| 13:27.01 | hoxu | Helmi, use chsh to change it |
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| 13:27.18 | Helmi | hoxu, thanks - guess i just used "useradd" without specifying a shell AFAIR |
| 13:27.26 | Chris1 | Azar: what do i need to do to my source? |
| 13:27.42 | hoxu | Helmi, don't use useradd on debian, use adduser instead |
| 13:27.49 | Azar | Chris1: paste the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:28.29 | Chris1 | http://pastebin.com/m42271bc5 |
| 13:28.58 | Helmi | hoxu, ok thanks - seems to work but my rsa-key seems to be invalid now :S strange |
| 13:30.37 | Helmi | hmm looks like ssh-copy-id can't use other ports dann 22 :( |
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| 13:31.36 | Azar | Chris1: look at mine and replace if you want: http://paste.debian.net/43982 |
| 13:32.34 | Azar | Chris1: after you replace (uk seems not to respond to you), save and run: aptitude update and aptitude upgrade |
| 13:32.40 | Azar | then try installing again |
| 13:32.47 | Chris1 | thanks Azar |
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| 13:33.35 | hoxu | ... |
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| 13:36.10 | Azar | hoxu: his original paste showed clearly his connection works, and tells him that the source he tries to reach is down... |
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| 13:52.34 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 13:55.36 | hoxu | !hello!! |
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| 13:55.37 | dpkg | hello!! are you there?? :> |
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| 13:56.44 | xand | dpkg: no |
| 13:56.44 | dpkg | No Offense |
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| 13:56.55 | jelly-home | none taken |
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| 13:57.03 | dann | hi |
| 13:57.24 | fredl | anybody know in which pkg the verdana font sits?! |
| 13:57.38 | dann | how could i download kernel-source for 2.6.18-5k ? i tried with apt-get install but without success nothing is downloaded |
| 13:57.39 | hoxu | !tell fredl about search |
| 13:58.08 | fredl | I tried those hoxu :) |
| 13:58.17 | hoxu | fredl, do you have non-free sources? |
| 13:58.25 | jelly-home | dann: why do you want them? |
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| 13:58.30 | fredl | hmm I thought so... |
| 13:58.41 | dann | to compile a kernel module |
| 13:58.50 | fredl | yeah I do. |
| 13:59.19 | fredl | I just dunno what file to search for with apt-file |
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| 13:59.33 | fredl | apt-file search verdana doesn't show anything |
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| 13:59.59 | hoxu | fredl, and apt-cache search...? :p |
| 14:00.16 | jelly-home | dann: you don't need the whole source. Install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential |
| 14:00.24 | fredl | hmm there ya go... |
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| 14:01.07 | jelly-home | !msttcorefonts |
| 14:01.07 | DustyBin | before you compile something in debian what packages should one install? |
| 14:01.07 | dpkg | msttcorefonts is, like, add contrib (ask me about it) to sources and install the package. Or go to http://corefonts.sourceforge.net |
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| 14:02.11 | asg | DustyBin: build-essential |
| 14:02.28 | jelly-home | fredl: those fonts aren't actually in any package. "msttcorefonts" package downloads them separately and puts the in the right place |
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| 14:02.51 | DustyBin | asg thats the one :D |
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| 14:03.15 | DustyBin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:03.28 | fredl | kewl |
| 14:03.40 | expose | How can i find out what depends on libncurses5-dev? |
| 14:03.43 | fredl | those fonts should be installed by default. |
| 14:03.49 | fredl | anhyhoot, tnx guys! |
| 14:04.40 | asg | expose: apt-rdepends |
| 14:04.54 | expose | thanks |
| 14:04.59 | wols | expose: apt-rdependes |
| 14:05.02 | wols | expose: apt-rdepends |
| 14:05.13 | hoxu | expose, aptitude gui can also show that to you |
| 14:05.21 | asg | wols: the former only installs in .es |
| 14:05.44 | expose | hoxu: i dont use the gui, only the cli. it confuses me. |
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| 14:05.55 | DustyBin | ive successfully got vserver running on debian etch! mythtv is running on the host and ive got 2 guests running perfectly :D |
| 14:05.57 | Azar | :) |
| 14:06.09 | DustyBin | 3 machines in one box :D |
| 14:06.14 | hoxu | expose, well, the gui quite useful once you learn it I guess (I'm still learning) |
| 14:06.28 | Azar | :D |
| 14:06.34 | expose | quite possible :-) |
| 14:06.38 | dann | jelly-home, thx it works :)) |
| 14:07.24 | jelly-home | dann: which module was it? |
| 14:07.30 | jelly-home | !m-a |
| 14:07.31 | dpkg | hmm... module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or aptitude install module-assistant build-essential && m-a prepare |
| 14:07.56 | dann | hello world :p |
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| 14:22.59 | vonnis | hello |
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| 14:23.29 | vonnis | thank you for your help, who helped me a few minutes ago |
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| 14:30.43 | daya | Is there is any alternative to MultiPC, such as Linux system can be used by many users in different terminals |
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| 14:31.39 | hendry | what is good for playing back WAV files? |
| 14:31.47 | tarzeau | using play or ocp (opencubicplayer) |
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| 14:32.05 | abrotman | daya: huh? |
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| 14:33.29 | daya | abrotman, :), Through addition of VGA users to be able to login with the use of monitor, mouse and keyboard only |
| 14:33.30 | jelly-home | daya: you want a multihead configuration? |
| 14:33.46 | spanther | good evening :-) does somebody knows if my notebook geforce 7600go is supported by the open source nvidia driver and hows the driver name entry to set at xorg.conf? and how good 2D and 3D is supported with it? :-) thanks |
| 14:33.47 | abrotman | daya: you mean multiple X sessions? |
| 14:33.54 | daya | jelly-home, yes seems to be like that, |
| 14:34.29 | daya | abrotman, jelly I mean I want to login from the terminal with only monitor, mouse and keyboard |
| 14:34.31 | jelly-home | googling for linux multihead didn't help? |
| 14:34.32 | Bushmills | spanther: very likely, but 2d only. for accelerated 3d, nvidia proprietary driver needed |
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| 14:34.51 | Bushmills | spanther: driver name nv |
| 14:34.59 | spanther | Bushmills: thank you very much :-) |
| 14:35.15 | daya | jelly-home, actually I just remeber the word multihead |
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| 14:35.35 | daya | jelly-home, still in confusion is it which I am serarching for, |
| 14:35.46 | Bushmills | like, beeblebrox-mode |
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| 14:36.42 | spanther | Bushmills: it was preconfigured allready i see :-) but when i move windows inside of gnome they lag a bit doesnt look that smooth more like compatible mode |
| 14:37.00 | b0ha | does anyone have intel X3100 graphic card ? |
| 14:37.10 | azeem | !anyone |
| 14:37.10 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 14:37.16 | Bushmills | spanther: same here, proprietary driver seems faster for 2d |
| 14:37.51 | spanther | Bushmills: i see :( then i cant work without them (actually) |
| 14:37.58 | abrotman | isn't x3100 an ati card? |
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| 14:38.07 | Bushmills | b0ha: intel marketing department would now that. |
| 14:38.09 | b0ha | abrotman, X1300 is :) |
| 14:38.32 | Bushmills | b0ha: but I guess it is a safe bet to answer that with "yes" |
| 14:38.52 | jelly-home | abrotman: x3100 is what latest Centrino platform has |
| 14:38.58 | spanther | b0ha: its weird that intel took same name than ATI :-) hard to overview now hehe |
| 14:39.29 | hendry | tarzeau: where does "play" come from? ocp doesn't seem to work |
| 14:39.41 | tarzeau | sox |
| 14:39.46 | tarzeau | hendry: what does ocp say? |
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| 14:39.51 | b0ha | i was wondering why i glxinfo prints: direkt rendering: no |
| 14:39.51 | Bushmills | hendry: when using alsa, aplay plays wab too |
| 14:39.53 | Bushmills | wav |
| 14:39.55 | tarzeau | hendry: can i have your wav? |
| 14:40.00 | Bushmills | comes from alsatools |
| 14:40.01 | b0ha | do i have to install specal drivers or what ? |
| 14:40.02 | tarzeau | b0ha: nvidia? |
| 14:40.10 | b0ha | no intel X3100 |
| 14:40.23 | tarzeau | haha, intel graphics cards? |
| 14:40.30 | abrotman | b0ha: which version of debian? |
| 14:40.38 | b0ha | lenny |
| 14:40.44 | jelly-home | daya: multiseat might also be a useful keyword |
| 14:40.45 | hendry | tarzeau: er, ok, msg more your email |
| 14:40.51 | hendry | tarzeau: er, ok, msg me your email |
| 14:40.54 | b0ha | 2.6.22-3-686 |
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| 14:41.05 | tarzeau | hendry: gurkan@linuks.mine.nu |
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| 14:41.06 | hendry | ah thanks Bushmills |
| 14:41.12 | abrotman | b0ha: and lspci | grep VGA says x3100? |
| 14:41.21 | Bushmills | hendry: alsa-utils, actually |
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| 14:42.24 | b0ha | abrotman, it says Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) |
| 14:42.30 | hendry | Bushmills: aplay works great |
| 14:42.32 | abrotman | that's it? |
| 14:42.32 | daya | jelly-home, yes really thanks I am searching this word |
| 14:43.04 | b0ha | yes |
| 14:43.23 | tomfmason | A friend of mine set me up with a vps with debian etc and I am having an issue when trying to run iptables. I have tried to list the current rules via iptables --list and I get the following error modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-xen-686/modules.dep (No such file or directory) |
| 14:43.42 | tomfmason | etch |
| 14:44.14 | DustyBin | does perl stand for 'Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister' ? |
| 14:44.26 | Bushmills | tomfmason: try depmod -a |
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| 14:44.36 | stew | DustyBin: practical extraction and reporting language |
| 14:44.47 | DustyBin | perl-base - The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister |
| 14:45.19 | tomfmason | Bushmills: depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
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| 14:45.37 | Bushmills | tomfmason: something is buggered |
| 14:45.47 | asg | DustyBin: it has many names. TIMTOWTNI |
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| 14:47.24 | spanther | Bushmills: is my geforce7600go a legacy one or can i use actual driver |
| 14:47.25 | johndoevodka | how do i connect to a wireless network(the wireless card is working) |
| 14:47.32 | Bushmills | tomfmason: kernel, modules compiled, or distribution? |
| 14:47.44 | Bushmills | spanther: actual driver should be ok |
| 14:47.52 | hjb | Hi. i have some trouble with beep media player (bmpx). It's so strange, that i can't even image how that happens: |
| 14:47.59 | Bushmills | current driver |
| 14:48.05 | spanther | Bushmills: okay :-) |
| 14:48.24 | DustyBin | spanther: 7600 isnt exactly legacy you silly sod :P |
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| 14:48.37 | spanther | DustyBin: what do i know <.< |
| 14:48.41 | hjb | i.e. i have gkrellm running. When i start bmpx, some of the fonts in gkrellm get's resized (they are bigger than before), with the effect that i can't read it's output anymore |
| 14:49.00 | tomfmason | Bushmills: I imagine that it would be distribution |
| 14:49.04 | tomfmason | but I don't know |
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| 14:49.18 | spanther | DustyBin: how can i know what legacy means i never heard about this split before |
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| 14:49.44 | hjb | Oh ... i now realize that xchat has the same trouble :-/ |
| 14:49.52 | hjb | have to restart my x server |
| 14:49.58 | tomfmason | I am pretty new to nix systems. I can setup iptables, shorewall and the basic lamp but beyond that point I don't really know that much |
| 14:49.58 | hjb | wait a moment... |
| 14:50.24 | abrotman | tomfmason: you're better off than some :) |
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| 14:50.54 | DustyBin | perl - Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language |
| 14:51.02 | DustyBin | perl is called anything you want o_0 |
| 14:51.11 | hjb | Anyone has a clue how this can happen? |
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| 14:51.43 | DustyBin | i blame the bastards at debian for calling perl silly names :P |
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| 14:52.10 | hendry | what's the best way of convert WAV to MP3 speedily |
| 14:52.18 | abrotman | lame |
| 14:52.21 | Bushmills | hendry, gogo |
| 14:52.40 | Bushmills | (that's lame with some x86 assembly |
| 14:52.41 | mark_s | Hi, how can I find out, if the "HighPoint RocketRAID 2300" controller is supported by Debian 4.0? |
| 14:52.41 | Bushmills | ) |
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| 14:53.04 | DustyBin | what perl module contains this: perl module Date::Manip... no |
| 14:53.23 | abrotman | mark_s: is it supported by linux? |
| 14:53.36 | tomfmason | Bushmills: A quick qoogle search with the error from above I found http://kerneltrap.org/node/3891#comment-73662 |
| 14:53.50 | stew | DustyBin: uhh, 'Date::Manip' would be the name of the perl module containing the 'Date::Manip' perl module |
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| 14:54.30 | mark_s | abrotman: I have no idea? I need a controller for PCIe x1. this controller I found. |
| 14:54.31 | abrotman | b0ha: it seems your card is a 965 |
| 14:54.31 | hjb | Is there some vital alternative to bmpx out there? With same quality of radio/podcast/lasffm/etc... support? |
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| 14:55.01 | hendry | Bushmills: can't find a package with gogo |
| 14:55.23 | abrotman | b0ha: seems it should be supported |
| 14:55.40 | Bushmills | hendry, right. there is no debian package. but can be downloaded from a japanese site somewhere |
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| 14:56.04 | Bushmills | if you can't find it, go with lame. that's just a bit slower |
| 14:56.07 | Bushmills | otherwise the same |
| 14:56.35 | abrotman | b0ha: ignore the 965 part .. but it still seems it hsould be supported |
| 14:57.38 | stew | his card? its definately supported. i'm using one |
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| 14:57.45 | b0ha | yeah, but direct rendering is still disabled :/ |
| 14:57.53 | b0ha | stew do you have direct rendering ? |
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| 14:58.48 | stew | b0ha: no |
| 15:00.27 | tomfmason | now I am getting iptables v1.3.6: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) |
| 15:01.31 | asg | tomfmason: modprobe iptables |
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| 15:02.30 | tomfmason | asg: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-xen-686/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
| 15:02.31 | Bushmills | probably won't do .. he seems to have a problem with his modules |
| 15:02.41 | asg | tomfmason: then run depmod -a as root |
| 15:03.23 | tomfmason | asg: WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-xen-686: No such file or directory |
| 15:03.24 | tomfmason | FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-xen-686/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory |
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| 15:04.11 | asg | tomfmason: hmm, manually check if /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-xen-686 exists. If not, does anything exist there? |
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| 15:05.47 | tomfmason | not 2.6.18-4-xen-686 but 2.6.18-5-xen-686 is |
| 15:06.52 | tomfmason | should I symlink them? |
| 15:06.59 | abrotman | so what is trying ot use -4- ? |
| 15:07.09 | hendry | what is .mp2 of twola,e? |
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| 15:08.12 | hendry | what is .mp2 from the twolame? |
| 15:08.19 | spanther | when i want to start the graphical shell installer from nvidia i get an error message that i run an X server and that i have to disable it but i dont know how :/ |
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| 15:08.32 | wols | hendry: mpeg layer 2 sound file |
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| 15:08.37 | srid | I'm using Etch - I see that `acpi-cpufreq` module is not available in the default kernel. Is there any way I can get this module without having to compile the source? |
| 15:08.51 | wols | !cpufreq |
| 15:08.52 | dpkg | rumour has it, cpufreq is a patch (http://www.brodo.de/cpufreq_old) to the 2.4.x kernels to support frequency scaling on mobile x86, PowerPC and ARM processors. It has been merged into the 2.6.x series. It provides a simple interface (/proc/cpufreq) through which userspace daemons like cpudynd (in the "cpudyn" package) can throttle processor speed to save power when the system is idle. |
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| 15:09.20 | valdyn | srid: you're wrong , its there |
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| 15:09.34 | srid | ok - I am using thinkpad and I was reading the instructions here, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_use_of_Dynamic_Frequency_Scaling#Debian_notes |
| 15:09.41 | asg | tomfmason: no, you need to have that system booted with the -5 kernel instead of the -4 one |
| 15:09.57 | spanther | how can i shutdown the X server completely ? |
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| 15:10.07 | srid | actually, while modprobe'ing that module, I get: |
| 15:10.08 | srid | FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.18-3-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such devic |
| 15:10.11 | srid | valdyn: ^^ |
| 15:10.15 | valdyn | spanther: /etc/init.d/*gdm stop |
| 15:10.16 | abrotman | spanther: how did you start it ? |
| 15:10.23 | valdyn | srid: yes, so? |
| 15:10.27 | valdyn | srid: is a module a device? |
| 15:10.51 | spanther | valdyn: why did "killall -9 gdm" not work properly? :( |
| 15:10.58 | srid | valdyn: indeed not, but I am not clear about that error message. |
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| 15:11.11 | valdyn | spanther: why the fuck are you using -9 ? |
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| 15:11.23 | spanther | valdyn: someone said me once to do so sorry ._. |
| 15:11.41 | valdyn | srid: its means that you dont have the hardware that is "driven" by that module |
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| 15:11.59 | tomfmason | asg: is this something that I can do or ? |
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| 15:12.09 | spanther | mh okay i retry it again |
| 15:12.10 | srid | valdyn: oh. this is thinkpad and it worked perfectly fine in Ubuntu (which I ditched to try debian) |
| 15:12.45 | donny | hi all. configuring /etc/network/interfaces here. when using DHCP, dhclient (i presume) is able to set up a proper routing table, with two entries (one for lan destinations, one for others.) using static configuration i'm unable to figure out how to do this, and any destination ip that is not on the lan yields (predictably) a "destination unreachable" error. any help? |
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| 15:12.49 | asg | tomfmason: I think it has to be done at the host level, though I'm not sure ... not totally familiar with Xen |
| 15:13.12 | asg | donny: you need a gateway entry |
| 15:13.46 | hjb | ok, with the help of some nice guy over at #bmp i've located the source of my font resize trouble: |
| 15:13.51 | donny | asg: how can i find out what my gateway entry should be? |
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| 15:14.09 | hjb | gnome-settings-daemon gets started when i start bmpx |
| 15:14.26 | hjb | it then destroys my fonts |
| 15:14.28 | valdyn | srid: what am i supposed to conclude from that? you might not have used cpu scaling on ubuntu, you might have used a different cpufreq driver - geez |
| 15:14.53 | valdyn | srid: tell cpu, someone can probably give you the proper cpufreq driver then |
| 15:15.08 | asg | donny: well, you could look at the routing tables when you use dhcp or, generally, it's probably the first node on your network (i.e., 192.168.0.1) |
| 15:15.30 | hjb | any idea how i can "disable" gnome-settings-daemon from getting started? |
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| 15:15.48 | srid | valdyn: ah. sorry. `speedstep-centrino` module works! |
| 15:15.50 | donny | asg: well that didn't seem to work when i tried it earlier (not that exact value, but the address assigned to our router, which is 192.168.1.1) |
| 15:15.56 | donny | asg: i suppose i'll try again, maybe i did something wrong |
| 15:16.00 | hendry | so there isn't any decent mp3 encoders in debian? |
| 15:16.12 | Bushmills | hendry, lame, toolame, twolame |
| 15:16.20 | asg | donny: you also need a netmask line (should be 255.255.255.0 given your example) |
| 15:16.38 | hendry | Bushmills: it seems to output mp2 files, not mp3 |
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| 15:16.46 | valdyn | hendry: no, "/msg dpkg debian-multimedia" |
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| 15:17.34 | Bushmills | hendry: lame can encode to mp2 and to mp3 |
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| 15:17.50 | donny | asg: seems to make no difference |
| 15:18.10 | spanther | after "/etc/init.d/*gdm stop" it still has the X server running... |
| 15:18.29 | donny | asg: i do understand correctly that i should use the /etc/init.d/networking command to re-evaluate the /etc/network/interfaces configuration, right? |
| 15:18.38 | spanther | and with alt + F7 i see a crashed gdm |
| 15:18.42 | asg | donny: that or ifdown <if> ; ifup <if> |
| 15:18.42 | donny | asg: (with restart, obv) |
| 15:18.53 | hendry | Bushmills: well, i don't have lame on my system. twolame can only do mp2. i guess i need to look at those unofficial repos |
| 15:18.56 | donny | asg: really? that didn't seem to work earlier |
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| 15:19.04 | spanther | but it wont get killed i can put in the command "/etc/init.d/*gdm stop" as often i want gdm still stays only crashed now |
| 15:19.05 | donny | asg: oh, wait, i was using ifconfig dev down / up |
| 15:19.16 | g00se | If i've an ntfs fs on one box, can i access that as a share from a Debian box? |
| 15:19.37 | LoneTech | g00se: yes, using smb/cifs. |
| 15:19.38 | sebyte | hi all, what is 'etch' and 'lenny'? Are they stable and testing? I lose track! |
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| 15:19.42 | r3c4ll | somebody has used metasploit? |
| 15:19.46 | aksn | hi all |
| 15:19.48 | spanther | sebyte: yep |
| 15:19.51 | Bushmills | hendry: oh, you seem to be right about twolame being mp2 only. my bad, sorry |
| 15:19.57 | g00se | LoneTech: was hoping to avoid samba |
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| 15:20.27 | g00se | LoneTech: not exportable as nfs/ntfs combo? |
| 15:20.31 | LoneTech | your phrasing suggested to me sharing it from windows. did you mean running linux on the machine with an ntfs disk? |
| 15:20.45 | donny | asg: well.. nothing seems to be working.. thanks for your help though |
| 15:20.54 | aksn | i'm installing debian testing netinst on a HP 6710b laptop, but boot process hangs up; googling it, it seams to be something related to cd-rom detection, anybody knows how to solve it? thanks |
| 15:20.58 | g00se | LoneTech: That's right - both boxes running Linux |
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| 15:21.08 | spanther | here also..i cant kill gdm it just crashes but still is there |
| 15:21.09 | asg | donny: how are you testing? can you ping 192.168.1.1 once you bring the interface up? |
| 15:21.13 | LoneTech | well, nfs will do that as usual then |
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| 15:21.47 | donny | asg: yes, and name lookup works (presumedly because i can still send packets to the router at 192.168.1.1) however i can't reach any of the IPs returned for networking test favorites such as "ping google.com" |
| 15:21.57 | LoneTech | though it requires complete trust in the network |
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| 15:22.20 | donny | asg: although mostly i'm just looking at the routing table output from route [-n] |
| 15:22.26 | g00se | LoneTech: Would have thought so, but not. Wonder if that's cos win partition already mounted on the server as ntfs |
| 15:22.30 | Bushmills | g00se: smbfs |
| 15:22.31 | wols | donny: pastebin your static interfaces entry |
| 15:22.40 | donny | wols: alright |
| 15:22.42 | Bushmills | g00se: with that you should be able to mount windows exports |
| 15:23.04 | up365 | I'm looking for someone who had etch/beryl/compiz and upgraded to testing without hosing their system |
| 15:23.04 | Bushmills | g00se: the file system on the win box wouldn't matter |
| 15:23.18 | g00se | LoneTech: Got message: '/c does not support NFS export' |
| 15:23.36 | wols | up365: ask a real question |
| 15:23.42 | LoneTech | perhaps you have to do another combination; both nfs server and ntfs file system are available in both kernel and user space.. |
| 15:23.52 | g00se | Bushmills: Seems odd to use samba on 2 Linux boxes |
| 15:23.57 | LoneTech | I suspect you may have to switch to userspace nfs server to export ntfs |
| 15:24.03 | wols | LoneTech: no |
| 15:24.11 | Bushmills | g00se: smbfs doesn't install all samba. only samba-common |
| 15:24.33 | Bushmills | g00se: samba is to export linux shares to windows machines |
| 15:24.56 | g00se | Bushmills: yes. Both are Linux boxes |
| 15:25.07 | sebyte | spanther: was 'hoary' ever a debian dist? |
| 15:25.15 | LoneTech | wols: could you please explain the context of that "no"? |
| 15:25.16 | SpeedyG | sebyte: nope |
| 15:25.29 | up365 | has anyone here upgraded from etch with beryl or compiz working to testing with success? Looking for some help/directions |
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| 15:25.38 | Bushmills | g00se: then I don't understand. disk file system and network shareing protocol are not related |
| 15:25.40 | donny | actually before i paste, i just noticed something strange. even after reloading my networking interface configuration, ifconfig eth0 shows that i'm associated with a different lan ip address than the one i configured my interfaces file for |
| 15:25.54 | wols | up365:not until you tell us your real problem |
| 15:25.57 | g00se | wols: yes - was wondering that. Think i've used nfs-user-server before |
| 15:26.20 | wols | donny: why can't you show us your interfaces file? |
| 15:26.31 | Bushmills | up365: educated guess: "yes" |
| 15:26.44 | up365 | wols, no problem I tried it once and ruined my sys, kinda uneasy about repeating thats all |
| 15:26.46 | sebyte | SpeedyG: i didn't think so, it's ubuntu isn't it? |
| 15:26.49 | g00se | As it happens, just installed nfs-kernel-server to get exportfs. |
| 15:27.07 | wols | up365: define "ruined" |
| 15:27.08 | SpeedyG | sebyte: afaik, yes |
| 15:27.11 | g00se | It uninstalled nfs-user-server (assume incompatible) |
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| 15:27.14 | donny | wols: i'm about to do that, i just couldn't connect to that system to be able to copy and paste the interfaces file because the IP address i thought it had wasn't correct |
| 15:27.18 | sebyte | SpeedyG: ta |
| 15:27.30 | LoneTech | exportfs is the interface to load /etc/exports information into kernel server, the user server runs as a daemon which can simply be restarted (or reload on its own) |
| 15:27.37 | up365 | wols, had to reinstall , X would not function |
| 15:28.16 | wols | up365: how did you install the 3D drivers? |
| 15:28.20 | SpeedyG | !tell sebyte about release history |
| 15:28.21 | g00se | LoneTech: So does *user* pick up /etc/exports automatically? |
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| 15:28.58 | donny | wols, asg: http://pastebin.com/m204f54ce |
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| 15:29.14 | LoneTech | certainly on start. You probably should do something like "/etc/init.d/nfs-user-server force-reload" to reload it. |
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| 15:29.24 | donny | and before anybody asks, titslap is an anagram of this system's predecessor's hostname |
| 15:29.55 | ScreaM | donny ŅëÓõĀé --> Tell please on this channel there are little girls? |
| 15:30.12 | g00se | LoneTech: I'll try it |
| 15:30.26 | LoneTech | good luck |
| 15:30.26 | donny | ScreaM: i think my client doesn't like your character encoding |
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| 15:30.32 | g00se | LoneTech: Thanks |
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| 15:30.48 | wols | ScreaM:don't. just don't |
| 15:30.48 | up365 | wols, I already had nvidia 3D drivers installed on etch |
| 15:30.50 | stealth` | hi |
| 15:30.51 | Eulex | ScreaM, do you have a debian question? |
| 15:30.52 | Aleera | !search flash |
| 15:30.56 | wols | donny: and the route is ser properly? |
| 15:30.57 | donny | ScreaM: unless "NeOoAe" with various accent marks is a word i'm supposed to understand |
| 15:31.02 | wols | !tell Aleera about flash |
| 15:31.04 | stealth` | Who can help me please: http://rafb.net/p/pSJNt739.html |
| 15:31.07 | donny | wols: what do you mean? |
| 15:31.08 | wols | !tell aleera about selftell |
| 15:31.13 | LoneTech | shouldn't the troll simply be removed? |
| 15:31.19 | wols | donny: I asked if the route is set properly |
| 15:31.26 | DustyBin | ive got a database named: @ZM_DB_NAME@ , if i try and drop @ZM_DB_NAME@; it doesnt work because of the '@' how can i get around this? ive tried using " and ' but they dont seem to work |
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| 15:31.29 | wols | LoneTech: sooner or later he will |
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| 15:31.53 | DustyBin | drop database @ZM_DB_NAME@; doesnt work.. |
| 15:31.54 | labanux | can we mix some packages from stable and testing? |
| 15:31.54 | donny | wols: well, no, the routing table is not set properly. it only contains an entry for reaching other machines on the lan. i cannot reach machines outside the lan. |
| 15:32.02 | stealth` | Forcing reload of web server (apache2)...apache2: Syntax error on line 669 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 47 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default: </VirtualHost> without matching <VirtualHost> section |
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| 15:32.14 | donny | wols: unless i'm misundersatnding you |
| 15:32.15 | wols | DustyBin: tried something like phpmyadin? |
| 15:32.19 | hoxu | donny, gateway? |
| 15:32.27 | DustyBin | wols: eeek i didnt really want to install that |
| 15:32.29 | LoneTech | labanux: some, yes. |
| 15:32.32 | donny | hoxu: that is an equally confusing question. what about "gateway?" :( |
| 15:32.37 | DustyBin | wols: thats the lame way out.. |
| 15:32.59 | wols | donny: no "default" entry when you simply run /sbin/route? |
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| 15:33.02 | hoxu | donny, if you have only route to local network, you are probably missing a gateway in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 15:33.08 | donny | wols: that's correct, no default entry |
| 15:33.19 | donny | hoxu: you tell me: http://pastebin.com/m204f54ce |
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| 15:33.35 | ScreaM | How many time tell? |
| 15:33.45 | labanux | LoneTech : i need some packages to make my soundcard works well. But these packages only available in testing. How can i set up my source.list or apt to mix them both? |
| 15:33.53 | hoxu | donny, and you brought up that interface with "ifup eth0"? |
| 15:34.00 | minus198 | If I remove "gnome-games" or "ekiga", apt will automatically remove "gnome-desktop-environment".. Why does it do this? |
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| 15:34.05 | LoneTech | something about pinning. I don't really know that feature. |
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| 15:34.31 | donny | hoxu: i am of an "/etc/init.d/networking restart" habit |
| 15:34.37 | ScreaM | donny ŅëÓõĀé --> You from what country? |
| 15:34.45 | labanux | minus198 : it doesn't really remove gnome-desktop-env.., it only makes some changes there.. |
| 15:34.49 | wols | ScreaM: do you have a debian question? |
| 15:34.54 | LoneTech | I have sometimes simply set up apt-src lines and used apt-get source -b or apt-build to build the newer packages for my system. |
| 15:35.03 | minus198 | labanux, ok.. So its safe to remove "gnome-games" etc. ? |
| 15:35.11 | donny | ScreaM: america. maybe your client is automatically inserting something |
| 15:35.21 | Enverex | Just making sure, Sid IS the same as Unstable isn't it? |
| 15:35.22 | wols | !tell labanux about simple sid backport |
| 15:35.27 | wols | Enverex: yes |
| 15:35.30 | labanux | minus198 :so you don't need to be worry. *at least from my experience |
| 15:35.38 | minus198 | labanux, ok :) |
| 15:35.40 | minus198 | Thank you |
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| 15:36.12 | TheBonsai | minus198: a good question. that's the only thing that sucks for me here. these idiotic whoever_thought_that's_needed_(rev)deps |
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| 15:36.24 | labanux | wols : hmm.., thanx for the info |
| 15:36.25 | ScreaM | donny ŅëÓõĀé --> I from Russia. At me the word in Russian there is simple |
| 15:36.29 | Enverex | wols, Thanks, just checking |
| 15:36.35 | minus198 | TheBonsai, ^^ |
| 15:36.39 | LoneTech | donny: looks like bitchx-style garbage, but I don't think that feeds it into tab completion. |
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| 15:37.04 | hoxu | !tell ScreaM about russian |
| 15:37.07 | donny | LoneTech: hmm, could be some kind of custom configuration |
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| 15:37.10 | LoneTech | not many set koi8-r as default encoding |
| 15:37.23 | TheBonsai | minus198: see i develop on some software, so i need to remove the distribution packages of it. for now that means to manually remove the files and ignore the package management in this case |
| 15:37.28 | wols | it's cyrillic, his locale. now just ignore the troll |
| 15:37.32 | donny | ScreaM: do you mean that the word "ŅëÓõĀé" has meaning in Russian? |
| 15:37.42 | donny | ah, ok |
| 15:37.47 | wols | TheBonsai: you don't if you know what you are doing |
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| 15:38.05 | minus198 | TheBonsai, :/ |
| 15:38.11 | ScreaM | donny ŅëÓõĀé --> yes |
| 15:38.27 | Aleera | I tried what was on the page |
| 15:38.37 | Aleera | it's refusing to install macromedia flash |
| 15:38.48 | ScreaM | donny ŅëÓõĀé --> And how old are you? |
| 15:38.49 | minus198 | Why is "Epiphany" installed at all? Does anyone use it? |
| 15:38.50 | wols | !tell Aleera about bat |
| 15:38.59 | wols | ScreaM: last time. do you have a debian question? |
| 15:39.03 | TheBonsai | wols: obvisually i don't know what i'm doing then. |
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| 15:39.18 | wols | thank you |
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| 15:39.40 | Enverex | That's good, the repo Skype lists on their website is a 404 |
| 15:39.42 | stew | ScreaM: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being off-topic. this is not a general chit-chat channel. for chit-chat, try #defocus ; if you want to spead russian, try #debian-russia |
| 15:39.48 | stew | err #debian-russian |
| 15:40.14 | labanux | wols : i've just read the backports.org. But i don't really get it, how can i use the backport |
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| 15:40.22 | donny | huh... uhh... apparently "/etc/init.d/networking restart" doesn't bring the interface up properly? ifdown/ifup seemed to do the trick... |
| 15:40.27 | donny | thanks for the help everyone |
| 15:40.29 | labanux | wols : do I need to add something in source.list? |
| 15:40.29 | LoneTech | minus198: because it's apparently the default gnome web browser. Personally I prefer Galeon. |
| 15:40.40 | wols | labanux: I didn't tell you about backports. I told you about how to create a simple backport yourself. different things |
| 15:40.41 | roxy_ | my screen goes all black after X tries to start. I can't find any error in X logs. How can I increase level of log ? |
| 15:40.56 | wols | labanux: you can only use backports.org if someone else already made one. |
| 15:40.58 | roxy_ | I am trying to set up a dual screen system with xinerama |
| 15:41.04 | minus198 | LoneTech, Never heard of that before o.O, I'm the standard "I like firefox"-guy |
| 15:41.12 | wols | roxy_: what driver? pastebin your xorg.log |
| 15:41.15 | TheBonsai | wols: how should i do then? except changing the --prefix etc.. |
| 15:41.30 | labanux | wols : oh.., so how can I install couple packages from testing to stable? |
| 15:41.32 | hoxu | minus198, you mean "I like iceweasel"-guy? :P |
| 15:41.32 | wols | TheBonsai: depends what special libs you need |
| 15:41.39 | wols | labanux: dpkg told you |
| 15:42.12 | minus198 | hoxu, -.- Iceweasel is firefox so it doesn't really matter what you call it XD |
| 15:42.15 | donny | labanux: add testing to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update |
| 15:42.23 | minus198 | Call it "Whatever" instead :P |
| 15:42.25 | wols | donny: that's wrong |
| 15:42.28 | donny | labanux: be warned though: you may encounter strange problems mixing packages |
| 15:42.38 | donny | wols: really? |
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| 15:42.41 | wols | donny: and that's why you don't tell people to do it. ever |
| 15:42.42 | donny | wols: i've been doing that for years |
| 15:42.50 | donny | wols: sometimes you have to |
| 15:43.00 | wols | donny: no you usually don't |
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| 15:43.12 | donny | wols: well of course not usually. but i assumed if he was asking, he had already decided he must |
| 15:43.16 | roxy_ | wols: this is the end: http://rafb.net/p/NVO92S45.html ( the line about aiglx doesn't show up anymore) |
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| 15:43.49 | donny | farbeit from me to tell someone they can't shoot themselves in the foot if they're set on doing it :P |
| 15:43.50 | labanux | donny : yeah.., that's why i just re-install my debian |
| 15:43.51 | wols | roxy_: I didn't say "pastbein the last screenfull of xorg.log", did I? |
| 15:44.00 | roxy_ | wols: nv driver. Both works bythemself. |
| 15:44.14 | TheBonsai | wols: i only need custom sets of 2 libraries (libpt, libopal) and one application |
| 15:44.18 | Enverex | Is running "Experiment" good for a laugh or if you're very bored? :P |
| 15:44.26 | wols | donny: telling others something that will make them shoot in their foot is evil. and imho bannable |
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| 15:44.48 | wols | roxy_: nv cannot do aiglx or 3D at all |
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| 15:45.18 | roxy_ | wols: http://rafb.net/p/EVOsZr10.html |
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| 15:45.34 | donny | :( |
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| 15:46.27 | roxy_ | wols: yes, I added a dri section in my conf file since: http://rafb.net/p/P6nSmF25.html |
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| 15:47.08 | wols | roxy_: your 3:0:0 busid is wrong too |
| 15:47.18 | roxy_ | wols: when I X -configure or startx, even ctrl-alt-backspace get me the command line back so I have to revoot |
| 15:47.35 | wols | roxy_: there is no X -configure |
| 15:47.35 | roxy_ | wols: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX200] (rev b2) |
| 15:48.02 | wols | roxy_: (WW) NV: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:3:0:0) found |
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| 15:48.23 | labanux | i've just read about apt-pinning for beginners.. Is it safe? I mean will it make broken dependencies? |
| 15:48.25 | Aleera | can someone tell me how to install flash in Flood |
| 15:48.46 | wols | labanux: it will most likely make you mix packages, sooner or later breaking your etch |
| 15:48.50 | vonnis | on flash on amd64 |
| 15:49.09 | LoneTech | what's flood? |
| 15:49.09 | Aleera | I've tried and it's refusing... do I have to go to the macromedia flash and download the flash setup? |
| 15:49.10 | wols | labanux: it won't just install the packages but its dependencies (usually libc6 and such) from testing too |
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| 15:49.47 | wols | Aleera: I told you what we need from you. your choice if you ignore it. we also don't support macromedia flash installs from macromedia.com |
| 15:50.15 | Aleera | debian:~# aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 15:50.15 | Aleera | Reading package lists... Done |
| 15:50.15 | Aleera | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 15:50.15 | Aleera | Reading extended state information |
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| 15:50.18 | LoneTech | my experience is that flash can be run in firefox using nspluginwrapper, but isn't worth it. |
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| 15:50.29 | roxy_ | wols: this is the conf for the 3:0:0 device, it is working when byitself: http://rafb.net/p/qf1DdM82.html |
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| 15:50.34 | Aleera | I pasted that in #floood already. |
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| 15:50.47 | roxy_ | wols: I thought that cut/paste and add to the conf for both would work |
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| 15:50.54 | wols | !tell Aleera about paste |
| 15:50.56 | LoneTech | oh, that flood. |
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| 15:51.39 | flami | Hi , does the nvidia-glx driver in etch support the 8800 GT(something) ? It says in the description see the readme , but i run lenny , and i have an ATI . ( wanted to check for a friend ) |
| 15:51.40 | wols | roxy_: then I don't know |
| 15:51.45 | wols | flami: no |
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| 15:51.49 | flami | ok thanks |
| 15:51.53 | Aleera | n/m wols... thanks. |
| 15:52.00 | Aleera | see yall |
| 15:52.07 | wols | it supports some. but it doesn't support the 8800GT |
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| 15:53.32 | sparr_ | many hard drives used to store particular types of files. one for music, one for movies, etc. I want to access their contents (nice directory hierarchies) as if they were subdirectories of one location. I tried symlinks, but they fail when relative paths go above the symlinked structure. Is there any better way short of actually mounting the driives where I want to access them? |
| 15:53.49 | aksn | i'm installing debian testing netinst on a HP 6710b laptop, but boot process hangs up; googling it, it seams to be something related to cd-rom detection, anybody knows how to solve it? thanks |
| 15:54.50 | Nigromante | when does it hang |
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| 15:55.43 | flami | wols, then he needs to download it from nvidia.com . I was preety sure that when etc came out the drivers didnt support his card yet |
| 15:55.48 | jelly-home | aksn: how old is your testing image? |
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| 15:56.03 | labanux | wols : so it's better to just move all system to testing? Since some of my driver only available in testing.. |
| 15:56.05 | aksn | jelly, i downloaded it yesterday |
| 15:56.27 | Nigromante | aksn, when does it stop |
| 15:56.29 | hoxu | sparr_, just came to my mind, but you could perhaps bind-mount them where you'd put your symlinks in? |
| 15:56.57 | aksn | Nigromante, the last thing i red is "starting log system..." |
| 15:57.18 | Nigromante | ah, you already did the basic installation? |
| 15:57.52 | sparr_ | hoxu: can you elaborate? |
| 15:58.16 | aksn | Nigromante, no, it starts booting and it stops, in the first installation |
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| 15:58.47 | the_sniff | hey |
| 15:59.06 | hoxu | sparr_, mount them as usual, then use mount --bind to bind them again to the same directory where you used to have the symlinks in |
| 15:59.14 | Nigromante | I mean, when booting from the CD or from hard disk? |
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| 15:59.48 | sparr_ | hoxu: there are many reasons i dont want to do that |
| 15:59.53 | aksn | Nigromante, when booting from cd |
| 15:59.58 | Nigromante | ah ok |
| 16:00.15 | Nigromante | strange |
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| 16:00.39 | Chri2 | hi |
| 16:00.42 | hoxu | sparr_, well, I'm afraid you are out of options then, and need to just cope with absolute paths when moving stuff (or you could stay in the parent dir and mv foo/file bar/file etc) |
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| 16:01.20 | Chri2 | what is the best channel for help on dhcpd3? |
| 16:01.41 | hoxu | Chri2, ask your question, we'll point another channel if there's need |
| 16:02.09 | hoxu | dunno if there's one for dhcp :p |
| 16:02.22 | Nigromante | aksn, which distribution are you trying? |
| 16:02.23 | Chri2 | i couldn't find it :P |
| 16:02.35 | sniff`` | anyways |
| 16:02.40 | aksn | Nigromante, debian testing netinstaller |
| 16:02.45 | sniff`` | i was on the phone with our "sysadministration" company |
| 16:02.46 | Nigromante | mm |
| 16:02.50 | sniff`` | the guy's a joke |
| 16:02.50 | Chri2 | i have installed webmin on debian, and when i try to start dhcpd it fails |
| 16:02.58 | Nigromante | what about stable, aksn ? |
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| 16:03.11 | sniff`` | he claims there's software raid on the server cause he see's a /dev/dm-1 etc |
| 16:03.17 | aksn | i think this laptop (HP 6710B) has some problem with cdrom detection or some, but i can't find a workaround |
| 16:03.18 | sniff`` | im pretty sure it has nothing to do with it |
| 16:03.24 | sniff`` | what the device manager? |
| 16:03.29 | Nigromante | try stable first |
| 16:03.39 | Nigromante | then you can upgrade |
| 16:03.46 | Blissex | sniff``: it is the virtual volume and RAID level of LVM2. |
| 16:03.55 | sniff`` | how can i list devicec? |
| 16:04.05 | Blissex | sniff``: 'man dmsetup' |
| 16:04.11 | sniff`` | could it be hardware raid? |
| 16:04.23 | sniff`` | or must it |
| 16:04.25 | wols | aksn: don't use that installer. use an etch installer |
| 16:04.36 | sniff`` | there's no dmsetup on the server |
| 16:04.48 | wols | sniff``: no. debian has software raid. and if you have to ask, you certainly don't have hardware raid |
| 16:04.57 | wols | !tell sniff`` about installit |
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| 16:05.03 | aksn | wols, you mean the first installation cd (650 mb) ? |
| 16:05.08 | sniff`` | I have hardware raid. i mean what does it represent |
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| 16:05.16 | Nigromante | aksn, try stable (etch) netinst |
| 16:05.16 | flami | is there something like df -h for unmounted drives ? |
| 16:05.22 | wols | aksn: use the netinst instead |
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| 16:05.32 | aksn | ah, right, i'll try it |
| 16:05.33 | Chri2 | hoxu: i couldn't find a webmin channel either |
| 16:05.35 | aksn | thanks! |
| 16:05.38 | Nigromante | np |
| 16:05.42 | wols | flami: how can there be? you need to mount the partition before you see how much is free on it |
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| 16:05.50 | sniff`` | wols: dude, i hardly even see how what you just wrote has anything to do with my question |
| 16:05.51 | wols | !webmin |
| 16:05.52 | dpkg | rumour has it, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 16:06.26 | flami | arrgh |
| 16:06.30 | flami | ok good to know :P |
| 16:06.36 | Chri2 | uh oh |
| 16:06.42 | flami | thats true actually ;) |
| 16:07.01 | sniff`` | !tell wols no connection |
| 16:07.02 | sniff`` | :S |
| 16:07.21 | Nigromante | !windows |
| 16:07.21 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
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| 16:07.42 | sniff`` | eh |
| 16:07.54 | Nigromante | !mac |
| 16:07.54 | dpkg | i guess mac is see also nameififrename, or changed with macchanger |
| 16:08.01 | wols | sniff``: what raid controller if any is it? |
| 16:08.03 | Chri2 | !mac |
| 16:08.47 | Nigromante | !minix |
| 16:08.47 | dpkg | it has been said that minix is at http://www.minix3.org, or see tanenbaum v torvalds |
| 16:09.01 | sniff`` | wols its an ibm X3650 |
| 16:09.03 | wols | Nigromante: can you stop abusing the bot please? |
| 16:09.11 | Nigromante | -- |
| 16:09.16 | Nigromante | :-X |
| 16:09.37 | wols | sniff``: answer my question, not stuff you made up please. X3650 is no disk controller |
| 16:09.38 | hoxu | psst Nigromante... you can take your affairds to the private (/query) ! |
| 16:09.45 | sniff`` | the server is |
| 16:09.55 | wols | did I ask what the server is? |
| 16:10.42 | stew | sniff``: can you show us the output of "lspci" ? use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 16:11.18 | sniff`` | RAID bus controller: Adaptec AAC-RAID (Rocket) (rev 02) |
| 16:11.28 | wols | most likely this thing is software raid. so check how many disks you have in there first |
| 16:11.43 | johndoe | i have a problem; i typed "passwd -d root" in terminal and now the old password doesnt work anymore |
| 16:11.44 | sniff`` | its a hardware raid, dude |
| 16:11.46 | wols | wow. quality (sorta) IBM hardware |
| 16:11.59 | sniff`` | i may have not installed the server but i spoke to the guy that did like 10 minutes ago |
| 16:12.03 | sniff`` | he's just in the army :S |
| 16:12.11 | roxy_ | is xrandr always used on debian testing or do I have to set it up ? |
| 16:12.13 | sniff`` | huh? |
| 16:13.00 | Eulex | roxy_, it's used by default. debian is not gentoo :P |
| 16:13.38 | roxy_ | Eulex: so it should do dual screen setup without monitorlayout section in my xorg.conf ? |
| 16:13.42 | Nigromante | johndoe, try a sinle user boot |
| 16:13.54 | johndoe | Nigromante: how do i do that? |
| 16:14.01 | Nigromante | have debian? |
| 16:14.10 | johndoe | Nigromante: and shouldnt the password be blanked now? |
| 16:14.11 | johndoe | yes |
| 16:14.16 | Nigromante | then reboot and choose 2nd choice in grub |
| 16:14.21 | johndoe | k |
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| 16:14.30 | johndoe | but shouldnt the password be blank? |
| 16:14.46 | Nigromante | never happened to me, try blank |
| 16:14.52 | johndoe | neither the old nor blank works |
| 16:14.53 | Nigromante | or space |
| 16:15.00 | johndoe | k |
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| 16:16.06 | Eulex | roxy_, you mean monitorlayout option? I think that's unrelated to xrandr, and if your X driver fails at autodetecting it you'll need to add it. |
| 16:16.51 | roxy_ | Eulex: well, it is failing anyway. I was reading : http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
| 16:17.09 | roxy_ | Eulex: I was hoping xrandr could help me set up dual screen. |
| 16:17.35 | roxy_ | I have been failing riduculously for the last 48hours. |
| 16:18.52 | Eulex | roxy_, oh, xrandr _1.2_? does your X driver support it? and do you have xserver 1.3? |
| 16:19.56 | roxy_ | Eulex: I am using amd64 on testing: X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3 |
| 16:19.59 | flami | !tell flami about nvidia-glx |
| 16:20.59 | Eulex | roxy_, and driver? |
| 16:21.11 | roxy_ | Eulex: nv for both card. |
| 16:21.12 | asg | flami: /msg dpkg <foo> (saves from spaming the channel with selftells) |
| 16:21.24 | flami | oh sorry |
| 16:21.38 | roxy_ | :q! |
| 16:21.44 | asg | ZZ |
| 16:21.58 | hoxu | ggVGD:wq |
| 16:22.29 | Eulex | roxy_, 'both cards'? do you have two xservers running? |
| 16:22.52 | roxy_ | Eulex: no, but 2 pci cards with one screen each. |
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| 16:24.13 | Eulex | roxy_, I believe the directions you are following are for _several_ outputs from _one_ card. |
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| 16:26.17 | roxy_ | Eulex: do you have any info for 2 cards 2 screen ? |
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| 16:28.22 | Eulex | roxy_, the page you linked to says "RandR 1.2 does not support multiple boards yet (it's planned for RandR 1.3). It means that any RandR 1.2 aware driver will crash the server if you have 2 boards. Even one board with a RandR 1.2 driver and another board with a classic driver does not work. It just crashes the X server." |
| 16:28.55 | roxy_ | Eulex: I thought it meant 2 mother boards, not 2 video cards. |
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| 16:30.06 | roxy_ | Eulex: so does that mean that my actual setting (with xrandr) can't work with 2 video card ? |
| 16:31.05 | Agiofws | hi |
| 16:31.10 | Agiofws | is this logical |
| 16:31.14 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws# apt-cache search mencoder |
| 16:31.14 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws# |
| 16:31.16 | Eulex | roxy_, I believe they mean 2 video cards. a computer with two motherboards isn't 'one computer' anymore. and yes, I believe you won't be able to use xrandr in that config. |
| 16:31.26 | Eulex | !tell Agiofws about debian-multimedia |
| 16:31.29 | stew | Agiofws: seems logical. as mencoder isn't in debian |
| 16:31.44 | Agiofws | shikes |
| 16:31.52 | Agiofws | i have to compile ? |
| 16:32.23 | Agiofws | !tell Agiofws debian-multimedia.etch |
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| 16:32.32 | Eulex | roxy_, I guess you could have two different X servers, one on each screen. or downgrade to an older xserver version and do it the non-xrandr way |
| 16:32.44 | Agiofws | debian-multimedia.etch ? |
| 16:32.46 | Eulex | !tell Agiofws about selftell |
| 16:33.01 | roxy_ | Eulex: can't I keep xserver but disable xrandr ? |
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| 16:33.50 | sniff`` | eh |
| 16:33.53 | sniff`` | im backing up a server |
| 16:33.59 | Eulex | roxy_, I don't know. perhaps you'll be able to disable it. |
| 16:34.08 | sniff`` | other than /etc /home /var anything important i might be missing out on? |
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| 16:34.39 | roxy_ | Eulex: thanks a lot for your help, at least I know what is wrong now (my english :-) ) |
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| 16:41.14 | flami | Hi , im trying to help a friend , when his PC starts he sees the console , then the xserver starts up and its all black . I told him to switch to the console but it seems that ctrl alt f1 doesnt work. what could cause that ? |
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| 16:41.40 | Agiofws | Eulex, can i just download the deb package and install it ? |
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| 16:41.55 | Agiofws | doi have to go through the fepo thing ? |
| 16:42.13 | Eulex | Agiofws, sure you could do that |
| 16:42.34 | Eulex | you lose automatic dependency installation, though. |
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| 16:43.32 | xoz | flami: possible that frame buffer problem |
| 16:43.43 | Agiofws | now i need to find a deb package for mencoder |
| 16:43.44 | xoz | flami: what is his video card? |
| 16:43.57 | flami | a nvidia 8800gts |
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| 16:44.11 | flami | i wanted him to get the nvidia drivers and install those |
| 16:44.11 | Eulex | Agiofws, *shrug*, download it manually from the debian-multimedia repo? |
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| 16:44.27 | xoz | flami: disable automatic xserver startup. disable gdm or kdm |
| 16:44.41 | flami | well how if we cant get to the console ? |
| 16:44.45 | ohokthen | can someone give me the address of a public name server please? |
| 16:45.05 | xoz | flami: pass to the kernel boot prompt init=/bin/bash |
| 16:45.16 | Agiofws | where is it |
| 16:45.16 | Eulex | ohokthen, opendns.com? |
| 16:45.24 | ohokthen | address please |
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| 16:45.51 | Eulex | Agiofws, http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/ |
| 16:45.54 | flami | well then lets try :P |
| 16:45.55 | flami | thanks |
| 16:45.57 | Eulex | ohokthen, you mean ip? |
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| 16:46.01 | ohokthen | yes please |
| 16:46.18 | LinuxBlues | ohokthen: 208.67.219.99 |
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| 16:46.35 | LinuxBlues | use ping, plz |
| 16:46.38 | sparr_ | is it possible to take the output of mount and turn it into fstab entries? |
| 16:46.45 | Eulex | ohokthen, 208.67.222.222 / 208.67.220.220 |
| 16:46.55 | jelly-home | Eulex, Agiofws: but, packages from d-m often depend on libraries from d-m. |
| 16:47.23 | Agiofws | ok |
| 16:47.25 | Eulex | jelly-home, as I was pointing out to him... he'll need to install dependencies manually. |
| 16:47.56 | ohokthen | wow is that a slow nameserver or am i lagged |
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| 16:48.10 | ohokthen | time out: no servers could be reached |
| 16:48.17 | jelly-home | Agiofws: why can't you just add the repo to your apt configuration? |
| 16:48.31 | Agiofws | yeah thats what i'm doing |
| 16:48.32 | Agiofws | now |
| 16:48.34 | ohokthen | now why can I not reach that nameserver ?? |
| 16:48.41 | Agiofws | you chase for deps only in slack |
| 16:48.42 | Eulex | ohokthen, can you ping it? |
| 16:48.54 | ohokthen | no |
| 16:49.02 | ohokthen | what is up with that |
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| 16:50.05 | Eulex | ohokthen, can you ping google.com (64.233.187.99) ? |
| 16:51.00 | iwkse | hi all, there's some patch for xorg for keyboard led not working? |
| 16:51.17 | ohokthen | for some reason my pings are all down |
| 16:51.27 | ohokthen | but clearly i have traffic on this port |
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| 16:54.18 | xoz | ohokthen: try traceroute |
| 16:54.22 | donny | hi all. i've installed subversion and websvn. i created a subversion repository using fsfs, but there's still a problem with the /path/to/repo/db/current file. it seems that every time i check in (using ssh) that file is chowned to myuser:mygroup and chmodded to 770. what have i done wrong? |
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| 16:57.22 | ohokthen | traceroute6 gives me unknown host when I traceroute 64.233.187.99 |
| 16:57.53 | ohokthen | in fact it looks like everything (meaning IPs) is coming back unknown host |
| 16:58.37 | ohokthen | ok it does not look like i can ping my nic |
| 16:58.53 | ohokthen | but thats not stopping me from IRC'ing |
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| 16:59.31 | ohokthen | s/ping/traceroute |
| 16:59.46 | Nyle | mmm |
| 16:59.49 | Nyle | baking |
| 16:59.49 | ohokthen | obv the nic is pinging or i wouldn't be here |
| 16:59.51 | Nyle | after waking |
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| 17:00.16 | Eulex | ohokthen, icmp doesn't need to be working for networking to work |
| 17:00.45 | Nyle | hey Eulex |
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| 17:01.49 | ohokthen | ah Eulex, thanks, still can't ping Google's IP however |
| 17:02.06 | ohokthen | or traceroute it since the IP comes back unknown host |
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| 17:03.27 | wols | ohokthen: is your DNS set up alright? what's in your resolv.conf? |
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| 17:06.30 | mrrcp | How can i recover a root password LOCALY |
| 17:06.33 | ohokthen | haven't messed with it wols but will check |
| 17:07.26 | ohokthen | resolv.conf is set up just how it's supposed to be, with search and then nameserver |
| 17:07.29 | Neolink | Hello |
| 17:07.29 | mbroeker | mrrcp, kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdaX init=/bin/bash |
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| 17:07.54 | mrrcp | ? |
| 17:07.55 | mrrcp | at boot |
| 17:08.00 | ohokthen | but the issue seems to be at the IP level, not dns ...? |
| 17:08.17 | jelly-home | !test |
| 17:08.18 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 17:08.24 | mbroeker | mrrcp, yes append init=/bin/bash to your kernel command line |
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| 17:08.50 | jelly-home | mrrcp: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
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| 17:11.00 | mrrcp | hrm |
| 17:11.27 | johndoevodka | how do i setup wireless connection(ndiswrapper is working) |
| 17:11.42 | ohokthen | while we are on the subject, why would a traceroute on an IP return an unknown host, anyway? |
| 17:12.09 | ohokthen | is there an equiv of traceroute -n (ala netstat) ? |
| 17:13.33 | mrrcp | i have for kernal /boot/vmlinuz.2.6.18-5-486 root=/dev/hda1/ ro |
| 17:13.46 | mrrcp | so i change all of it to that? mbroeker |
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| 17:14.34 | Madd_Matt | mrrcp, just add init=/bin/bash to the end |
| 17:14.42 | johndoevodka | just boot it into single user mode |
| 17:14.55 | abrotman | johndoevodka: he can't .. he doesn't know root passwd |
| 17:15.02 | mbroeker | mrrcp, your kernel cmd will be: kernel /boot/vmlinuz.2.6.18-5-486 root=/dev/hda1 init=/bin/sh |
| 17:15.20 | mbroeker | or init=/bin/bash works both |
| 17:15.22 | wols | ohokthen: by installing wireless-tools editing your iinterfaces file (check the wireless-tools docs) |
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| 17:15.46 | wols | johndoevodka: by installing wireless-tools and editing your iinterfaces file (check the wireless-tools docs) |
| 17:15.51 | raboof | ohokthen: 'man traceroute' says -n will indeed not map ip's to hostnames |
| 17:15.54 | mrrcp | whats the ro on the end for? |
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| 17:16.00 | sclebo05 | read only |
| 17:16.07 | mrrcp | take it out |
| 17:16.14 | wols | ohokthen: unknown host is usually returned if DNS resolving fails |
| 17:16.20 | johndoevodka | wols: ok |
| 17:16.22 | Madd_Matt | mrrcp, it initially mounts your hard drive read-only, and then remounts it as read/write later in the boot process |
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| 17:17.24 | zeier | is there a commandline tool to create movies out of still images? |
| 17:17.43 | RichiH | zeier: mencoder is able to do that, iirc |
| 17:17.55 | zeier | Thanks, I'll have a look at it |
| 17:18.10 | Madd_Matt | zeier, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-enc-images.html |
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| 17:18.59 | mrrcp | i get a Authenication token lock busy with i try to change the passwd |
| 17:19.16 | johndoevodka | where do i find wireless-tools docs? |
| 17:20.39 | abrotman | johndoevodka: dpkg -L wireless-tools |
| 17:21.00 | ohokthen | wols- that's why I wanted a public dns to query. (!) |
| 17:21.29 | mbroeker | mrrcp, mount -o remount,rw / && passwd |
| 17:22.04 | Xenguy | Hi - I'm running stable, have 'debian-archive-keyring' installed, but am getting this error: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated"... |
| 17:22.10 | abrotman | !ifrp |
| 17:22.11 | dpkg | 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting to make one appear), 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) reboot -d -f (exec /sbin/init should work); For GRUB (e.g. etch, sarge): in step 1, press 'e' to edit the kernel setting (add init=/bin/sh to the end of it), 'b' to boot. Steps 2-6 are the same. |
| 17:22.13 | Xenguy | Should I be concerned? |
| 17:22.23 | abrotman | Xenguy: which packages? |
| 17:22.43 | Xenguy | abrotman: 3 so far: elinks, rkhunter, and chkrootkit |
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| 17:23.02 | abrotman | Xenguy: you could try another mirror .. perhaps it is a bad sync |
| 17:23.29 | mbroeker | Xenguy, you can list your current apt keys with apt-key list as root |
| 17:23.40 | Xenguy | abrotman: Yeah, makes sense, it must be the mirror; tx, I'll try that |
| 17:24.06 | Xenguy | mbroeker: OK, and what can I do with that information? |
| 17:24.40 | mbroeker | Xenguy, that depends on the installed keys :) if they are too old i would suggest you to update them. |
| 17:25.24 | Xenguy | mbroeker: I did try updating the 'debian-archive-keyring' package, and it is current supposedly |
| 17:25.50 | Xenguy | mbroeker: anyhow, good tip, I'll keep that in mind - tx |
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| 17:27.58 | ohokthen | Should I be able to ping 208.67.219.99 ? |
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| 17:28.32 | ohokthen | mbroeker- who keeps uninstalling it ? |
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| 17:28.46 | Usiu | HI |
| 17:28.53 | Usiu | how to write fscking man pages |
| 17:29.01 | abrotman | there's a reference |
| 17:29.09 | abrotman | or you can write text or html and convert to man |
| 17:29.49 | Xenguy | ohokthen: re: ping: yes I think so |
| 17:30.19 | Xenguy | Usiu: re: man page writing: 'txt2tags' is interesting, and might help |
| 17:30.56 | ohokthen | thanks xenguy, bc those pings are not coming back at all |
| 17:31.07 | ohokthen | i spoke too soon |
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| 17:31.17 | ohokthen | they just finally started working |
| 17:31.21 | Jyzygzel- | where to find games that run in console |
| 17:31.27 | ohokthen | this is obviously an issue with my provider |
| 17:31.31 | abrotman | Jyzygzel-: robotfindskitten! |
| 17:31.39 | Agiofws | Eulex, can you take a look here |
| 17:31.41 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws# apt-get install cinelerra 2>&1 | /home/agiofws/bin/pasti |
| 17:31.41 | Agiofws | Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/OYeyly66.html |
| 17:31.59 | Agiofws | what should i do ? |
| 17:32.14 | Xenguy | Jyzygzel-: apt-cache search game |grep -i console |
| 17:32.15 | Usiu | Xenguy, all binaries must have man pages ? even when they're two line scripts ? |
| 17:32.16 | Jyzygzel- | abrotman haha what is that :D |
| 17:32.21 | Jyzygzel- | Xenguy no |
| 17:32.22 | Jyzygzel- | :< |
| 17:32.33 | Jyzygzel- | not all the game descriptions say "game" |
| 17:32.41 | stew | Agiofws: you are trying to install a package which was compiled for a different release of debian than the one you are using |
| 17:32.44 | abrotman | Jyzygzel-: packages.debian.org/etch/games/ |
| 17:32.45 | Jyzygzel- | infact just couple of them do |
| 17:33.36 | Jyzygzel- | ok |
| 17:33.36 | Eulex | Agiofws, you added apt sources for testing, but you're on etch? |
| 17:33.36 | Xenguy | Usiu: I assume so; Debian's quality control is fairly exacting (but I don't know for sure 100%) |
| 17:33.36 | Eulex | Nyle, yes? |
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| 17:33.36 | Agiofws | For i386 processors: |
| 17:33.36 | Agiofws | deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/sid/ ./ |
| 17:33.45 | Agiofws | Eulex, well trying to install a package |
| 17:33.51 | Agiofws | so what should i do |
| 17:33.57 | Eulex | Agiofws, 'sid' means unstable |
| 17:34.08 | stew | Agiofws: you need to find one compiled for etch, not sid. or you will need to backport it: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 17:34.11 | abrotman | Jyzygzel-: you might find it easier to use the tag search |
| 17:34.14 | Eulex | Agiofws, either find packages for etch or rebuild it yourself. |
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| 17:34.34 | Jyzygzel- | jesus |
| 17:34.37 | Jyzygzel- | robotfindskitten :D |
| 17:34.49 | Nyle | Eulex: hi |
| 17:34.50 | Nyle | stew: hi |
| 17:34.56 | mbroeker | Usiu, this is a template manpage from a debian package http://rafb.net/p/G6AuCO68.html |
| 17:35.00 | ohokthen | whoever gave me that nameserver (208.67.219.99) i am not reaching it |
| 17:35.11 | Usiu | mbroeker, I have template from dh_make |
| 17:35.13 | ohokthen | although my main nameserver from resov.conf is working now |
| 17:35.26 | mbroeker | Usiu, well thats the same :) |
| 17:35.29 | Nyle | stew: damog and his girl went to my house hung out with my roommate and me smoked and drank some more and then I put him on the bus |
| 17:35.48 | Nyle | stew: I tried to call him to make sure he got home ok and everything, but his # is not reachable for some reason |
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| 17:36.10 | aksn | hi |
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| 17:36.38 | aksn | how can i execute a command before starting debian installation? i want to modprobe a module.. |
| 17:36.39 | johndoevodka | what do i have to do if my wireless connection gets assigned a bad ip by dhcp? |
| 17:36.58 | Nyle | johndoevodka: try static ip |
| 17:37.04 | Bushmills | Nyle: 82.206.32.210 |
| 17:37.06 | Nyle | johndoevodka: or renew th elease |
| 17:37.13 | Nyle | Bushmills: um? |
| 17:37.29 | johndoevodka | Nyle: i do that, and everything appears connected but i cant even ping the router |
| 17:37.34 | Nyle | daya: hey man |
| 17:37.37 | Nyle | damog: hey man |
| 17:37.39 | Nyle | ;) |
| 17:37.41 | damog | sup dog |
| 17:37.48 | Bushmills | Nyle: sorry |
| 17:37.54 | Nyle | you guys made it alright? |
| 17:37.57 | Nyle | I was a bit worried |
| 17:38.07 | damog | yes, just a little bit late, but finally did it, thanks |
| 17:38.14 | Nyle | how long? |
| 17:38.19 | Nyle | 3am max |
| 17:38.19 | damog | 3 hrs, heh |
| 17:38.22 | Nyle | holy shit! |
| 17:38.24 | Bushmills | ohokthen: 82.206.32.210 |
| 17:38.30 | damog | Nyle: arrived home 4:30 |
| 17:38.34 | Nyle | damog: oh wow man |
| 17:38.35 | damog | but it was fine anyway |
| 17:38.36 | Bushmills | ohokthen: can be reached, and resolves |
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| 17:39.04 | Nyle | oh I'm sorry dude, I know that from where I live I can get to 69h and broadway in 1 hour and 15 minutes |
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| 17:39.17 | Nyle | but maybe it was because it was really late at night |
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| 17:39.19 | damog | no worryes |
| 17:39.23 | damog | worries |
| 17:39.25 | Nyle | I dunno, I have no experience in taking trains of buses |
| 17:39.30 | Nyle | my lazy ass drives everywhere |
| 17:39.31 | Nyle | :D |
| 17:39.55 | ohokthen | ah, since 208.67.219.99 isn't actully running a nameserver, that would *kinda* 'splain it... |
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| 17:41.05 | SoulChild | HI ALL! How must i configure grub to load vista from my extended device /dev/sda5 ??? |
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| 17:41.24 | Nyle | SoulChild: try ##windows |
| 17:41.25 | abrotman | SoulChild: like normal? |
| 17:41.31 | Nyle | as well |
| 17:41.47 | Danker | Is there any real bad things that I use unstable? |
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| 17:42.04 | Bushmills | Danker: no. just, people here may refuse to help |
| 17:42.05 | Danker | Not just theoricaly? |
| 17:42.21 | abrotman | Danker: yes .. things actually break |
| 17:42.23 | Bushmills | Danker: and, when it breaks, you know that it would happen |
| 17:42.35 | gamag | hi. I have a problem. I am running Debian Etch 4.0 r0 on HP Compaq Presario. When I enter the headphones in the jack, the sound still comes from speakers. how can I fix it? |
| 17:42.40 | Danker | Hmm |
| 17:42.47 | Nyle | gamag: eh |
| 17:42.52 | Danker | Is there any way to go back to stable from unstable? |
| 17:42.53 | SoulChild | abrotman: it is installed to /dev/sda5 but has no boot flag, so if i tyoe root (hd0,4) i get an error saying no available option |
| 17:42.57 | abrotman | Danker: reinstall |
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| 17:43.09 | Danker | Shit... |
| 17:43.10 | aksn | how can i execute a command to load a module before starting debian installation? thanks |
| 17:43.13 | abrotman | Danker: indeed |
| 17:43.17 | gamag | Nyle: ?? |
| 17:43.26 | Bushmills | Danker: you could put all updates on hold |
| 17:43.38 | jelly-home | Bushmills: and wait 2 years? |
| 17:43.41 | Danker | Hmm |
| 17:43.44 | Bushmills | and let it slowly become not-that-unstable |
| 17:43.57 | abrotman | aksn: from the bootloader? or after it boots? |
| 17:44.02 | Bushmills | jelly-home: yeah, what's wrong with waiting |
| 17:44.06 | Danker | Is there any good way to install some newer packages from unstable to stable system? |
| 17:44.06 | abrotman | Bushmills: no he can't .. that's just stupid |
| 17:44.12 | aksn | abrotman, before it boots |
| 17:44.12 | Danker | Like to update php only? |
| 17:44.15 | abrotman | !tell Danker about backports |
| 17:44.31 | Nyle | gamag: thinking |
| 17:44.49 | abrotman | aksn: i can't recall if the install guide covers this or not .. but there is a section about options to the installer |
| 17:44.54 | socialist | Danker: what problem are you having with unstable? I run it on about 8 systems with rarely any problems |
| 17:44.54 | Bushmills | abrotman: he "can't", or he "wouldn't want to"? |
| 17:44.55 | mbroeker | Danker, use testing instead of stable. |
| 17:45.00 | Nyle | gamag: sounds like a hw issue |
| 17:45.10 | Nyle | gamag: you need to make sure its plugged in all the way |
| 17:45.16 | gamag | Nyle: I also thought so. but it works fine with Windows. |
| 17:45.17 | aksn | abrotman, i've been searching in the options, but i didnt find it |
| 17:45.17 | abrotman | Bushmills: it's just stupid .. he'd have a halfassed system for ... possibly two years? |
| 17:45.17 | Nyle | make sure that the headphone jack actually works |
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| 17:45.21 | Nyle | gamag: oh really |
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| 17:45.28 | Danker | In testing there is too old packages too |
| 17:45.36 | abrotman | Danker: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 17:45.38 | Bushmills | abrotman: and so? as long as it works, and does all he wants, who cares? |
| 17:45.40 | Danker | I am interested only in php package |
| 17:45.47 | Bushmills | halfassed or not |
| 17:45.48 | gamag | Nyle: it seems like a driver issue. one of my friends also said, that strangely this thing is a software issue and has something to do with HAL, alsa, etc. |
| 17:45.50 | aksn | abrotman, if i press F1 before installing i can't see the option to go to the command line |
| 17:45.59 | abrotman | Bushmills: that's really fucking stupid .. if you think it's a good idea .. try it on your box |
| 17:46.21 | Bushmills | abrotman: I do that on one of my boxes |
| 17:46.25 | abrotman | moron |
| 17:46.34 | ohokthen | does debian have a position regarding public name servers ? |
| 17:46.35 | Bushmills | abrotman: only picking the really wanted/needed updates |
| 17:46.37 | Nyle | gamag: you might need to adjust the volumes in the mixer, maybe turn headphone (if you have one) to 100% while speaker to 0%. I've seen it sometime ago, but usually you just have one volume output meter, regardless of speaker or headphone that is plugged in |
| 17:46.51 | socialist | ohokthen: why would "debian" care? |
| 17:46.52 | abrotman | Bushmills: that's different than what you suggested he do |
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| 17:47.18 | mrrcp | how do i remove a users password or lock it if im using keys? |
| 17:47.19 | jelly-home | Bushmills: just because it's doable doesn't mean it's smart |
| 17:47.25 | mrrcp | password <user> -l ? |
| 17:47.29 | mrrcp | i mwan passwd |
| 17:47.31 | abrotman | aksn: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s02.html.en .. you read that section ? |
| 17:47.43 | Nyle | gamag: have you checked the bug track? |
| 17:47.44 | Agiofws | deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/pentium4/ ./ model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU 520 @ 1.60GHz what should i replace pentium4 with do you know ? |
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| 17:47.52 | mbroeker | Danker, if you want the newest packages ready to use for your box in general, debian etch, lenny and sid wont be the solution for you. |
| 17:47.54 | abrotman | aksn: if you can't find anything .. ask #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net |
| 17:47.55 | mrrcp | paswd |
| 17:47.56 | ohokthen | socialist- because debian(ers) are smart enough to have opions on a wide variety of things, and there are those who are "opposed" to public name servers |
| 17:48.13 | abrotman | mrrcp: passwd -l |
| 17:48.34 | Danker | I have home development server... |
| 17:48.40 | gamag | Nyle: alsamixer shows master and pcm only for HDA Nvidia |
| 17:48.40 | mrrcp | that locks the root out? |
| 17:48.49 | Danker | I like debian because it is easy administrate |
| 17:49.06 | jelly-home | Agiofws: depending on the way the software was built, stuff for P4 might work on your CPU. |
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| 17:49.31 | socialist | ohokthen: your wording implied asking if debian as a culture had an opinion about public name servers...as public name servers have no direct effect on anyone aside from those running them, that would be impossible to answer |
| 17:49.57 | jelly-home | Agiofws: That repo is not part of Debian. You should ask the repository owner about his builds. |
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| 17:50.20 | socialist | ohokthen: personally speaking I wouldn't run one, but otherwise I'm ambivalent |
| 17:50.25 | ohokthen | yeah i grokked that socialist, and i agree with that answer, although someone opposed to PubNameServers would disagree with the premise |
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| 17:50.44 | ohokthen | I would love to run one if I had the "time" |
| 17:51.10 | Gun_Smoke | I have a 128M usb pen.. Debian do anything for me or stuck with DSL? |
| 17:51.17 | Bushmills | ohokthen: t'is quite easy to set up a recursive dns server on your own net, btw |
| 17:51.18 | abrotman | [7] With current kernels (2.6.9 or newer) you can use 32 command line options and 32 environment options. If these numbers are exceeded, the kernel will panic. |
| 17:51.21 | abrotman | cute ... |
| 17:51.24 | jelly-home | ohokthen: most people have a working dns setup and have no need for public recursvie resolvers |
| 17:51.34 | ohokthen | yes I have one Bushmills |
| 17:51.35 | Bushmills | ohokthen: that way you don't depend on 3rd party name servers |
| 17:51.41 | Bushmills | ohokthen: ah, ok |
| 17:52.07 | socialist | ohokthen: I'd say as long as you chroot the named on a tightly secured box and/or run it on an OS instance that you don't care about, it would be fine |
| 17:52.18 | ohokthen | Bushmills- in that fashion they are really "private public nameservers" to coin a phrase |
| 17:52.56 | socialist | yeah bind with a simple recursive config and chroot would probably only take about 10 minutes to set up, if that. |
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| 17:53.28 | aksn | abrotman, thanks a lot, but i couldn't find how to load an specific module |
| 17:53.45 | ohokthen | plus a script to add zones if you plan on adding domains |
| 17:53.45 | mrrcp | how can i list the status of passwd on all account |
| 17:53.53 | mrrcp | it says passwd -a but that no worky |
| 17:53.55 | squisher | anyone here knows a tutorial on how to setup rpcsec_gss with nfs4? |
| 17:54.10 | ohokthen | "no worky" <-- awesome syntax |
| 17:54.18 | mrrcp | heh |
| 17:54.24 | socialist | squisher: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NFSv4 ? |
| 17:54.58 | dhe | no gentoo wiki on the debian channel :D |
| 17:55.01 | abrotman | aksn: so ask #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net |
| 17:55.04 | mrrcp | well? |
| 17:55.10 | squisher | socialist: that's nfs4, but with standard auth, and not gss |
| 17:55.28 | socialist | yeah just noticed that |
| 17:55.53 | aksn | abrotman, ok, thanks again |
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| 17:56.02 | Nyle | ooh |
| 17:56.06 | Nyle | its snowing outside |
| 17:56.21 | stew | Gun_Smoke: debian can do things with 128M usb pens. what did you have in mind? |
| 17:56.21 | Nyle | awesome |
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| 17:57.20 | Nyle | stew: any idea about how the DSL distro folks managed to get Xorg in with a base system in 50MB |
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| 17:57.43 | stew | Nyle: i've never looked |
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| 17:58.01 | jelly-home | Nyle: the same way as gparted folks did? |
| 17:58.04 | Nyle | I just thought about it since you mentioned 128mb debian etc. |
| 17:58.08 | Eulex | Nyle, I assume that they don't use a full X server, but something like Xvesa |
| 17:58.27 | Nyle | Eulex: its not the full xorg |
| 17:58.44 | Nyle | right |
| 17:58.50 | Bushmills | Nyle: Xserver is not that big - some graphical user environments are. that's where DSL saves space |
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| 18:00.15 | Jyzygzel- | whats the dpkg remove |
| 18:00.18 | Jyzygzel- | command |
| 18:00.23 | Nyle | !remove |
| 18:00.28 | Nyle | hm |
| 18:00.37 | Jyzygzel- | so i guess r |
| 18:00.37 | Bushmills | rm `which dpkg` removes dpkg |
| 18:00.38 | Nyle | everything should be factoided! |
| 18:00.58 | Jyzygzel- | damn |
| 18:01.00 | Nyle | Bushmills: im sure that isn't what he meant to ask :) (I think) |
| 18:01.00 | Jyzygzel- | its not -r |
| 18:01.23 | gamag | i did some changes to /etc/modprobe.d/sound, now how to restart sound? so that my changes are into effect? |
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| 18:01.31 | Jyzygzel- | i dpkg -i something |
| 18:01.32 | Bushmills | Nyle: that's why I thought I better state what it does, rather than giving the command uncommented :) |
| 18:01.34 | Jyzygzel- | how do i remove it |
| 18:01.38 | stew | Jyzygzel-: man dpkg |
| 18:01.40 | xand | man dpkg |
| 18:01.46 | gamag | Jyzygzel-: dpkg -r |
| 18:01.52 | Jyzygzel- | dpkg -r what? |
| 18:01.56 | Nyle | gamag: /etc/init.d/alsa restart |
| 18:01.57 | Nyle | maybe? |
| 18:02.01 | xand | gamag: RTFM |
| 18:02.05 | xand | erm. |
| 18:02.09 | xand | sorry |
| 18:02.11 | Nyle | xand: be nice |
| 18:02.15 | Gun_Smoke | stew: Just playing.. Found it on the floor at work yesterday.. Never had a pen before, so I thought I might do something with it.. |
| 18:02.42 | jelly-home | Jyzygzel-: what? a package name |
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| 18:03.06 | mrrcp | is sulogin better than using su - ? |
| 18:03.15 | xand | Jyzygzel-: the name of your cat? what do you think :P |
| 18:03.17 | Nyle | use sudo instead |
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| 18:03.32 | mrrcp | sudo ? |
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| 18:03.40 | Nyle | factoid time |
| 18:03.41 | Nyle | !sudo |
| 18:03.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is (SUperuser DO) better than su, according to talon. It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html, or you need to setup /etc/sudoers first before you can use it (ask about <visudo>) |
| 18:04.36 | jelly-home | mrrcp: better for what? |
| 18:04.53 | gamag | Nyle: there is no /etc/init.d/alsa and no man alsa too. |
| 18:05.14 | Nyle | gamag: you sure? |
| 18:05.17 | mrrcp | eh i mean secure |
| 18:05.26 | gamag | Nyle: yes, checked now |
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| 18:05.30 | mrrcp | like i dont want anyone to try to su - |
| 18:05.33 | mrrcp | except me |
| 18:05.38 | gamag | Nyle: however alsamixer command works |
| 18:05.46 | Bushmills | mrrcp: secure in what sense? |
| 18:05.48 | Gun_Smoke | stew: Maybe just a light OS to boot on another system to play with files or restore info? Stick it on my keyring... Use irssi, flux maybe? Whatever I can do.. Just toying around |
| 18:05.48 | jelly-home | mrrcp: they can only try. |
| 18:05.56 | mrrcp | true nm |
| 18:06.12 | mrrcp | 1 Other question... I need all the comiplers what was that package name? |
| 18:06.13 | stew | Gun_Smoke: 128 mb is not large enough to hold a debian installation if that is what you are asking |
| 18:06.16 | Nyle | hm |
| 18:06.20 | mrrcp | like gcc and stuff |
| 18:06.27 | stew | mrrcp: build-essential ? |
| 18:06.30 | mrrcp | yep |
| 18:06.38 | mrrcp | thnk |
| 18:06.46 | Gun_Smoke | stew: Bummer.. I was hoping to stick with debian.. Thats all I know. |
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| 18:07.03 | jelly-home | Gun_Smoke: find a larger stick then :-) |
| 18:07.03 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: you can get a debian based distro on that much |
| 18:07.07 | Bushmills | Gun_Smoke: usb sticks > 128 mb cost almost next to nothing nowadays |
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| 18:07.43 | Bushmills | I think price is down to 10..15 $ per gigabyte |
| 18:07.44 | Gun_Smoke | Bushmills: I just found the one I have.. I'm not looking to buy one, just do something with the one I have. |
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| 18:08.10 | Gun_Smoke | Nyle: Can you point me to a link to play with the stick? |
| 18:08.16 | Nyle | google |
| 18:08.34 | Nyle | try not to play with your stick too much ;) |
| 18:08.40 | Nyle | ahem. |
| 18:08.44 | mrrcp | heh |
| 18:08.47 | Gun_Smoke | Nyle: Looked.. I guess I'm not looking at the right thing... Any ideas? |
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| 18:09.00 | mrrcp | Hey... Gun_Smoke stick windows 3.1 on that stick |
| 18:09.07 | mrrcp | then u can do somthing with it.. BURN IT |
| 18:09.24 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: 'usb linux distro' 'pendrive linux' 'linux for usb flash' |
| 18:09.25 | Nyle | I dunno man |
| 18:09.29 | Nyle | think of something |
| 18:09.38 | Gun_Smoke | Nyle: Thanks.. |
| 18:09.51 | Nyle | sure |
| 18:09.55 | mrrcp | that would be sweet that to have usb stick it linux... |
| 18:10.20 | stew | Gun_Smoke: feather linux is made specifically for 128mb pendrives |
| 18:10.20 | Gun_Smoke | Nyle: I know DSL will fit the bill... I was hoping Debian would, but I can't find much on that. |
| 18:10.23 | Nyle | http://pendrivelinux.com/ |
| 18:10.52 | Gun_Smoke | Thanks stew. |
| 18:11.09 | Bushmills | Gun_Smoke: one flavour of slax fits 128 mb. decent alternative to DSL |
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| 18:12.21 | VI_Lenin | Hi people! Can you please help me to add ntfs-3g package llink to apt config. Package is in pool/main..., "main" is added, but I still can't see it. |
| 18:12.39 | stew | VI_Lenin: what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:12.45 | VI_Lenin | Etch |
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| 18:13.07 | abrotman | bpo |
| 18:13.11 | Jyzygzel- | where is "system log" located? |
| 18:13.17 | stew | VI_Lenin: ntfs-3g was removed from etch prior to the release. you can get a backported version from backports.org: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 18:13.23 | abrotman | /var/log/ |
| 18:13.29 | Gun_Smoke | Bushmills: WM work on any of them or is 128 too small? |
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| 18:13.48 | Jyzygzel- | i have a logger program logging |
| 18:13.50 | AnAnt | Hello, when reporting a bug, can I put the source package in the Package: field, or should it be the binary package ? |
| 18:14.00 | stew | Gun_Smoke: ask ##linux |
| 18:14.15 | Jyzygzel- | logger -t lolproxy -p daemon.notice |
| 18:14.17 | Gun_Smoke | stew: Thanks,... |
| 18:14.20 | Jyzygzel- | where can i find those logs? |
| 18:14.45 | stew | Jyzygzel-: /var/log/daemon.log |
| 18:15.38 | AnAnt | Hello ? |
| 18:15.41 | Nyle | hi |
| 18:15.42 | wols | AnAnt: isn't source and binary named the same? |
| 18:16.01 | AnAnt | wols: no, the source package has 4 binary packages |
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| 18:16.20 | abrotman | AnAnt: what's wrong with the source that you wouldn't file against the binary it creates? |
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| 18:16.21 | jelly-home | AnAnt: the binary one, I think |
| 18:16.37 | lantius | hello, is there a proble if I upgrade kernel with debian stable? |
| 18:16.45 | lantius | *problem |
| 18:16.51 | abrotman | lantius: as long as you're capable .. no |
| 18:16.55 | jelly-home | abrotman: a FTBFS, for example! |
| 18:17.27 | lantius | well, I'll try do it ok , thanks |
| 18:17.42 | stew | lantius: what kernel are you currently running? |
| 18:17.47 | abrotman | jelly-home: it fails to build all the binaries? |
| 18:18.21 | jelly-home | abrotman: that's just a common example of a bug where the source is the problem and not a particular .deb |
| 18:18.40 | abrotman | jelly-home: but the bugs are still filed against the binary package |
| 18:18.56 | jelly-home | abrotman: yeah, but which oen? |
| 18:18.59 | AnAnt | jelly-home: what if I don't know which binary package ? |
| 18:19.08 | abrotman | jelly-home: the ones that fail to build? |
| 18:19.11 | lantius | I really don't know stew, but I have to get a pci card usb 2.0 work, so i have read i have to install a module, but i want to learn how to build the kernel |
| 18:19.20 | stew | AnAnt: what exactly is the bug? |
| 18:19.27 | stew | lantius: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 18:19.35 | lantius | ok |
| 18:19.35 | abrotman | lantius: usb2 cards work with the kernel in etch .. do you require a newer one? |
| 18:20.07 | AnAnt | stew: the bug is as follows, the package swt-gtk is supposed to provide a library called /usr/lib/jni/libswt-cairo-gtk-3346.so, yet I can't find it in any of the binary packages it produces |
| 18:20.19 | jelly-home | AnAnt: pick one that seems most appropriate. Or the "main" one if there is such a thing, dunno. |
| 18:20.20 | lantius | abrotman yes , but i have to rebuild the kernel or I can build another newer, so i prefer the last one |
| 18:20.20 | stew | jelly-home: any. you could aslo assign the bug to all of the binary packages, i guess |
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| 18:20.55 | AnAnt | stew: how ? Package: package1, package2, ... ? |
| 18:21.13 | stew | !find libswt-cairo-gtk-3346.so |
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| 18:21.20 | jelly-home | AnAnt: nah, just pick one and let the maintainer work it out :-) |
| 18:21.25 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libswt-cairo-gtk-3346.so' returned no results. |
| 18:21.30 | abrotman | libswt3.2-gtk-jni: usr/lib/jni/libswt-cairo-gtk-3235.so |
| 18:21.36 | abrotman | i'd guess to file against that package |
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| 18:22.03 | AnAnt | abrotman: thanks |
| 18:22.21 | jelly-home | hm, azureus uses that one I think |
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| 18:22.30 | abrotman | AnAnt: is it just a revision issue? |
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| 18:22.47 | AnAnt | abrotman: dunno |
| 18:22.57 | abrotman | okay |
| 18:23.13 | abrotman | !find libswt-cairo-gtk |
| 18:23.19 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libswt-cairo-gtk' (1): (/usr/lib/jni/libswt-cairo-gtk-3236.so) in devel/libswt3.2-gtk-jni. |
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| 18:23.47 | lantius | stew my version is 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 18:24.08 | lantius | an the last one is 2.6.23.9 |
| 18:24.11 | stew | lantius: upgrading should be fine then. what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:24.18 | R0CK | hello guys, how to add a contab for this command starts each 5 mins "./R0CK/proxy" |
| 18:24.19 | lantius | stable etch |
| 18:24.36 | AnAnt | abrotman: are you sure that libswt3.2-gtk-jni had usr/lib/jni/libswt-cairo-gtk-3235.so ? |
| 18:24.46 | lantius | thanks a lot |
| 18:24.52 | abrotman | AnAnt: on lenny it does |
| 18:24.54 | abrotman | !find libswt-cairo-gtk etch |
| 18:25.01 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libswt-cairo-gtk' (1): (/usr/lib/jni/libswt-cairo-gtk-3235.so) in devel/libswt3.2-gtk-jni. |
| 18:25.08 | abrotman | and etch too apparently |
| 18:25.12 | stew | lantius: that kernel would support usb 2.0 already. you should upgrade tot he current etch kernel which is 2.6.18-5 |
| 18:25.14 | jelly-home | lantius: if you choose to use the vanilla kernel, remember to track the security issues by yourself |
| 18:25.22 | abrotman | AnAnt: in unstable it's 3236 |
| 18:26.05 | R0CK | how can i schedule command to run each 5 minutes ? |
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| 18:26.44 | stew | R0CK: man 1 crontab ; man 5 crontab |
| 18:26.45 | AnAnt | ic |
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| 18:27.08 | gan|y|med | hi |
| 18:27.25 | VI_Lenin | stew: Excuse me, a newer versions links listed in "sid" section here: http://packages.debian.org/sid/ntfs-3g/i386/download. What means "sid" and how can I add it to apt config? |
| 18:27.26 | R0CK | man 5 crontab ? |
| 18:27.32 | R0CK | where to put the command ? man 5 crontab |
| 18:27.40 | hoxu | R0CK, write it in your terminal |
| 18:27.41 | Maulkin | !sid |
| 18:27.42 | dpkg | the <unstable> version of Debian. Commonly backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq> |
| 18:27.53 | gan|y|med | in kernel 2.6.23.1 does CFQ = CFS?? |
| 18:27.58 | stew | VI_Lenin: sid is the unstable development version. you don't want it. |
| 18:28.05 | lantius | stew so is it bad if i upgrade to 2.6.23.9 ? |
| 18:28.15 | Jyzygzel- | man whats the command that lets you monitor something |
| 18:28.15 | h3sp4wn | gan|y|med: part of CFS is in it |
| 18:28.16 | R0CK | do you mean "pico crontab" ? |
| 18:28.23 | Jyzygzel- | it displays a command with interval |
| 18:28.24 | R0CK | then "man 5 contab" |
| 18:28.29 | gan|y|med | i thought cfs was merged into 23? |
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| 18:28.38 | Jyzygzel- | im sure stew knows |
| 18:28.42 | hoxu | R0CK, the crontab syntax is documented in the manual page of crontab(5), you type that in your shell to open the manual page |
| 18:28.49 | h3sp4wn | gan|y|med: without the containers stuff and the optimisations etc |
| 18:29.01 | AnAnt | abrotman: thanks for the help |
| 18:29.11 | abrotman | you're welcome |
| 18:29.12 | stew | lantius: no, but it is bad that you are running and old version of a kernel from oldstable. upgrading to 2.6.18-4 or 2.6.18-5 should have been part of the procedure of upgrading from sarge->etch ; and while running sarge, you should have at some point upgraded from 2.6.8-2 to 2.6.8-3 |
| 18:29.36 | hoxu | R0CK, I think you want to use "*/5 * * * *" for the fields |
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| 18:29.39 | lantius | jelly-home i have no idea what security issues you are speaking about,:( |
| 18:30.04 | lantius | stew I see, that was a mistake. |
| 18:30.27 | gan|y|med | so i still need ingo's patches? |
| 18:30.53 | lantius | I have never upgrade kernel that's why I didn't do it, but i'll do it now. |
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| 18:31.36 | h3sp4wn | gan|y|med: either use 2.6.24-rc? (and the cfs patch) or use the hrtimers patches and the cfs patch for 2.6.23 |
| 18:31.55 | Jyzygzel- | whats the difference between .c and .h |
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| 18:32.02 | Jyzygzel- | filetypes |
| 18:32.03 | lantius | jelly-home can you tell me some pages or manuals about security issues of the kernel? |
| 18:32.11 | Jyzygzel- | both say ASCII C program text |
| 18:32.26 | R0CK | I've No idea hoxu... I'm getting lost... |
| 18:32.47 | R0CK | <hoxu> tell me the command exactly or the steps |
| 18:32.55 | gan|y|med | thx |
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| 18:33.36 | hoxu | R0CK, type "man 5 crontab" and then "/^EXAMPLE<enter>" and you'll see some examples of the format |
| 18:33.50 | stew | Jyzygzel-: there is no difference. however it is common that someone would name a c source file .h if one expected it to be included from other source files by the preprocessor. |
| 18:34.04 | Nyle | http://featherlinux.berlios.de/ |
| 18:34.19 | Nyle | stew: nice to know, it has a summary of how it was made in the 2nd paragraph |
| 18:34.37 | lantius | thanks a lot stew |
| 18:34.41 | lantius | byee |
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| 18:35.58 | Gun_Smoke | I've install firestarter.. I didn't think I'd have that many 'events' |
| 18:36.17 | Nyle | I love compiz confusion |
| 18:36.22 | Gun_Smoke | damm thing never shuts up. |
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| 18:37.03 | CreepyNerd | can anyone help me? I'm trying to install a team fortress 2 dedicated server, and following http://www.mydirthill.com/node/2, when i get to the ./steam command, terminal gives a bunch of seemingly random things like "b7f51000-b7f52000 r-xp ...." ect and ends with "Aborted (core dumped) and i can't find anything that's been very helpful with this |
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| 18:37.44 | simonrvn | it crashed, and it left a backtrace |
| 18:37.52 | CreepyNerd | that's what it says |
| 18:38.12 | CreepyNerd | and i've tried deleting everything and restarting it, is there anything i need to do to fix it or is it a problem with the file? |
| 18:38.15 | simonrvn | that stuff is to help you or others debug it and see what caused it |
| 18:38.45 | simonrvn | the core file is used to see all that |
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| 18:38.54 | Usiu | simonrvn, how to build package with diff |
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| 18:39.03 | Usiu | and without stupid tar.gz containing debian dir |
| 18:39.30 | kalila | if I source /etc/bash_completion, I get a really long list of errors whenever I start bash again |
| 18:39.33 | kalila | see |
| 18:39.35 | simonrvn | Usiu: why are you doing this? |
| 18:39.39 | kalila | http://pastebin.com/m7225f27a |
| 18:39.47 | kalila | what the heck is all of that? |
| 18:39.57 | kalila | completion works though |
| 18:40.08 | Usiu | simonrvn, diff is prefered isnt it? |
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| 18:40.49 | simonrvn | the debian diff is to create the debian dir, various things... |
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| 18:41.20 | Usiu | simonrvn, why dpkg-buildpackage does create -1.tar.gz |
| 18:41.21 | Usiu | :( |
| 18:41.36 | Usiu | simonrvn, and archives whole directory in there |
| 18:41.52 | abrotman | !mg |
| 18:41.52 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) lynx /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
| 18:41.56 | stew | Usiu: if the version of the package you are building ends with a debian revision (a - in the package version), and there is a file named ../packagename_$version.orig.tar.gz ; then a .diff.gz will be created when dpkg-buildpackage calls dpkg-source |
| 18:42.07 | simonrvn | Usiu: you sure you can't get a backport somewhere? |
| 18:42.15 | stew | Usiu: the $version in the name of the .orig.tar.gz should not contain the debian revision |
| 18:42.27 | simonrvn | urgh, shouldn't do this on no coffee... |
| 18:42.37 | Usiu | stew, thanks |
| 18:42.57 | Nyle | simonrvn: hi |
| 18:43.50 | simonrvn | hi |
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| 18:45.28 | CreepyNerd | is there anything i need to do to fix the problem with this update tool or is it something i probably can't fix? (i'm not that great with linux ;)) |
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| 18:46.14 | hoxu | CreepyNerd, there's nothing a good hammer wouldn't fix... what's the problem anyway? |
| 18:46.30 | stew | CreepyNerd: what is the update tool? what makes you say it is broken? |
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| 18:47.36 | CreepyNerd | i'm trying to setup team fortress 2 dedicated server, and i get to the ./steam part here before it starts to update, and i get a backtrace thing and ends up saying Aborted (core dumped) |
| 18:47.42 | CreepyNerd | http://www.mydirthill.com/node/2 that's the guide i'm using |
| 18:48.27 | Arme[N] | I'm looking for an up to date documentation for udev, I googled alot, I figured out before usev used hotplug but not now, please let me know if you know any up to dated docs(and specially I mean debian realated docs), If I'm in wrong channel please let me know if there is better channel to ask |
| 18:49.25 | Claudio32m | finally got my system back up |
| 18:49.35 | abrotman | Arme[N]: /usr/share/doc/udev/ ? |
| 18:49.38 | Claudio32m | problem was a faulty 256mb sdram module |
| 18:49.54 | LoneTech | memtest is your friend, sometimes badram too. |
| 18:50.05 | Claudio32m | yeah thats what i did this morning |
| 18:50.19 | Claudio32m | i was getting a dbootstrap message in debian install |
| 18:50.25 | Claudio32m | so i replaced the dvd driv |
| 18:50.31 | Claudio32m | erased the mbr |
| 18:50.35 | Claudio32m | abotu to change the hdd |
| 18:50.38 | LoneTech | gtg, bbl |
| 18:50.39 | Claudio32m | then i checked the ramtest |
| 18:50.43 | Claudio32m | and it was that |
| 18:51.32 | Claudio32m | now im stuck with 256mb ram total system memory, down from 512 |
| 18:53.21 | CreepyNerd | this is what it looks like http://pastebin.com/d3e4688dc |
| 18:53.33 | Arme[N] | abrotman: let me explain it better, I just found some docs in web which is points udev uses hotplug and some other not, it seems in /usr/share/doc/udev/ is what I read in udev's site which it is not talking about such things too |
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| 18:53.52 | abrotman | Arme[N]: it used to .. not any longer |
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| 18:54.46 | Arme[N] | abrotman: and what about udebsend, udevd , those are deprecate? |
| 18:55.19 | abrotman | dunno about the first .. but my system is currently using udevd |
| 18:55.44 | R0CK | guys |
| 18:55.55 | R0CK | after i do this command ./command |
| 18:56.01 | R0CK | it's not returning back to prompt |
| 18:56.12 | abrotman | so it's running |
| 18:56.13 | R0CK | i tried to put & at the end, it's not working... |
| 18:56.17 | Agiofws | hi |
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| 18:56.19 | Agiofws | W: GPG error: http://deb.ichthyostega.de etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 65B66B07A1DE94B2 |
| 18:56.24 | Agiofws | what do i do ? |
| 18:56.29 | Ronin | Agiofws: /topic |
| 18:57.00 | R0CK | guys ? |
| 18:57.17 | Arme[N] | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 18:57.18 | Ronin | R0CK: what command where and why? |
| 18:57.43 | R0CK | after i do this command ./command.pl it's not returning back to prompt, it's giving the result of the command and stopping... |
| 18:58.04 | R0CK | when i press enter it shows blank |
| 18:58.13 | abrotman | so it's running |
| 18:58.21 | R0CK | yes it's running |
| 18:58.29 | R0CK | i want it to return back to prompt |
| 18:58.31 | abrotman | so what's the problem? |
| 18:58.37 | R0CK | coz i need to put another command.. |
| 18:58.41 | Ronin | R0CK: so then tell it to |
| 18:58.48 | abrotman | ctrl-z .. then type 'bg' |
| 18:58.48 | R0CK | i'm doing some bash script.. |
| 18:58.53 | R0CK | no no |
| 18:58.59 | Ronin | R0CK: #bash |
| 18:59.01 | R0CK | it's inside bash script.. |
| 19:00.19 | R0CK | is this the only solution you have "ctrl-z .. then type 'bg'" ? |
| 19:00.31 | hoxu | R0CK, I suggest you read http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ |
| 19:00.31 | Ronin | R0CK: ask in #bash |
| 19:00.35 | R0CK | what about using &>/dev/null |
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| 19:02.37 | vud1 | hi, i have a package developer question. I am doing a package and i need create a enviroment variable in the postinst debian package file. In what file can i define it? (for example /etc/environment) |
| 19:04.57 | socialist | vud1: that would be it, though debian in general is opposed to global environment variables, see here: http://ftp.debian.org/doc/base-files/FAQ |
| 19:05.04 | stew | vud1: define it in a script that starts whatever program relies on that variable |
| 19:06.14 | vud1 | stew: but.. one question. if this is the correct way, and (probably) each distribution has a diferent enviroment variables.. i must different program code for each distribution, isnt it? |
| 19:06.38 | stew | vud1: sounds like it |
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| 19:11.50 | mrcheeks | Hi guys, I have a problem with my keyboard. Keeping a key pressed doesn't make it show anywhere. So I can't keep my finger on the space key and expect many spaces to be inserted. I am using ubuntu gutsy and Debian with a microsoft comfort curve keyboard |
| 19:12.20 | abrotman | do both systems act the same? |
| 19:12.28 | R0CK | okay guys |
| 19:12.37 | R0CK | i've finsihed stop 2 |
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| 19:13.07 | R0CK | I couldn't understand the contab |
| 19:13.16 | R0CK | I've read it all... |
| 19:13.48 | mrcheeks | abrotman: yes, were you talking to me? |
| 19:14.09 | abrotman | mrcheeks: yes |
| 19:14.12 | ohokthen | mrcheeks- its called the repeat rate, right? |
| 19:14.30 | abrotman | mrcheeks: do other keyboards work correctly? |
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| 19:14.48 | ohokthen | some keyboards let you set the repeat rate right on them... |
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| 19:15.51 | mrcheeks | yes my old keyboards use too but I still don't have them |
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| 19:16.06 | mrcheeks | maybe in gnome keyboard preferences can help me : maybe keys presses repeat when key is held down? |
| 19:17.16 | Tramp | mrcheeks: try "xset r on" |
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| 19:18.55 | abrotman | yay .. segfault on gnome-keyboard-properties! |
| 19:19.03 | mrcheeks | The option keys presses repeat when key is held down in gnome keyboard preferences allow a key to be pressed once more when I type |
| 19:19.24 | mrcheeks | keeping my finger on a will write "aa" not "aaaaaaa" |
| 19:20.27 | abrotman | what if you hold it a really long time? |
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| 19:27.05 | bosnianboy | hi all, need a quickie |
| 19:27.10 | abrotman | $5 |
| 19:27.14 | bosnianboy | how do I disable ssh access for a user |
| 19:27.18 | bosnianboy | but to leave ftp |
| 19:27.23 | cahoot | DenyUser |
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| 19:27.42 | abrotman | bosnianboy: you can set their shell invalid and then add it to /etc/shells .. or man sshd_config and see DenyUser |
| 19:27.45 | Maulkin | man sshd_config |
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| 19:28.40 | bosnianboy | tnx |
| 19:28.48 | cahoot | or - if a finite list od allowed users - set AllowUser |
| 19:29.51 | cahoot | we all have idiosyncrasies ;9 |
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| 19:30.26 | mrrcp | whats the openssl lib package called on apty |
| 19:30.31 | abrotman | libssl |
| 19:30.59 | mrrcp | no worky |
| 19:31.10 | mrrcp | Package libssl is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 19:31.35 | abrotman | mrrcp: apt-cache search libssl .. there's more than one |
| 19:31.42 | Eulex | !tell mrrcp about search |
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| 19:44.34 | bolt | Can someone point me in the direction of a good howto on setting up an NFS server on debian etch? |
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| 19:44.55 | bolt | !tell me about nfs |
| 19:44.59 | cmiller1 | http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/nfs.htm |
| 19:45.18 | cmiller1 | http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/net-admin/ch12s03.html |
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| 19:45.31 | cmiller1 | either of those help? |
| 19:45.43 | abrotman | !tell bolt about selftell |
| 19:46.08 | bolt | abrotman: i just realized i hadn't asked dpkg, so i wanted to show that i was telling myself that so nobody else would |
| 19:46.17 | bolt | cmiller1: yep. thanks |
| 19:46.22 | abrotman | oh |
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| 19:48.11 | _|Nix|_ | Hi! Suppose I build all packages a source package generate, and then I make a change to the debian changelog like, say, adding another bullet point to the entry defining the package version I just built. Which of the generated packages will be affected by this modification? |
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| 19:48.20 | _|Nix|_ | Do I have to rebuild everything? |
| 19:48.30 | jelly-home | cahoot: so... idiots are people with idiosyncracies? |
| 19:48.54 | cahoot | not necessarily |
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| 19:49.25 | jelly-home | note to self: idiosyncracy is not a SYN flood like a crazy idiot |
| 19:49.41 | cahoot | idio != idiot |
| 19:49.45 | _|Nix|_ | I mean, I know I have to re-generate the source packages to contain the new changelog, but where else is it recorded? |
| 19:50.04 | _|Nix|_ | Do I have to re-build all the binary packages as well? |
| 19:50.05 | kombi | someone good with squid in here? the .conf file is killing me... |
| 19:50.08 | jelly-home | cahoot: but it's the better part of it! |
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| 19:50.38 | cahoot | jelly-home: this is getting too complicated/far |
| 19:50.45 | bzed | _|Nix|_: if you change the changelog you have to rebuild everything |
| 19:50.56 | _|Nix|_ | bzed: OK. |
| 19:51.06 | _|Nix|_ | bzed: Thanks! |
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| 19:51.35 | zzz | Is there anyone who uses Adept and notices an error (in the "view details" sub-window) about debconf not being able to use KDE frontend? |
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| 19:52.50 | docsnuggles | Hello! I'm searching for a program to convert something like "%2F" in URLs to UTF-8. I've tried recode but without luck. Any ideas? |
| 19:53.14 | roxy_ | docsnuggles: what language ? |
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| 19:53.33 | roxy_ | php, ruby, java all do that. |
| 19:53.41 | docsnuggles | bash |
| 19:53.44 | cmiller1 | python too |
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| 19:54.12 | ben_goodger | also perl |
| 19:54.16 | cmiller1 | god |
| 19:54.22 | cmiller1 | the list could go on |
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| 19:54.34 | zzz | Is there anyone who uses KDE and Adept at all? |
| 19:54.37 | ben_goodger | it could, and will |
| 19:54.50 | roxy_ | elisp |
| 19:54.57 | cmiller1 | echo "Text to be encoded /*$$[]" | od -t x1 -A n | tr " " % |
| 19:55.23 | roxy_ | cmiller1: nice :-) |
| 19:55.52 | cmiller1 | or you could just use one of those many languages listed through bash |
| 19:55.53 | cmiller1 | like |
| 19:56.02 | cmiller1 | echo 'Text to be encoded /*$$[]' | perl -MURI::Escape -lne 'print |
| 19:56.02 | cmiller1 | uri_escape($_)' |
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| 19:56.17 | Crashed | how do I unrar a rar? |
| 19:56.22 | abrotman | !unrar |
| 19:56.23 | dpkg | i guess unrar is a non-free package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about <unrar-free> |
| 19:56.23 | cmiller1 | oops, the first bash one was encoding, did he want unencoding? |
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| 19:56.25 | cmiller1 | oh well |
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| 19:56.47 | Crashed | is it possible? |
| 19:56.48 | zzz | !unrar-free |
| 19:56.48 | dpkg | hmm... unrar-free is an unarchiver for .rar files that can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format, which is by far the most used RAR format (ask me about <unrar> for 3.0). |
| 19:57.02 | Crashed | ahh, thanks :) |
| 19:57.02 | roxy_ | cmiller1: result is not what matters . |
| 19:57.19 | cmiller1 | lol |
| 19:57.29 | Agiofws | hi |
| 19:57.34 | Agiofws | can someoneo help me |
| 19:57.40 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws/cinelerra/svn/build# apt-cache search mjpegtools 2>&1 | /home/agiofws/bin/pasti |
| 19:57.41 | Agiofws | Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/uwFLcD16.html |
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| 19:58.08 | Crashed | I tried to unrar a file and it said every file failed to unpack :| |
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| 19:58.32 | Agiofws | anyone tried to install mjpegtools on etch ? |
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| 19:59.00 | zzz | Crashed: Maybe you need to try the unrar in the non-free repository. Needless to say, it is a non-free piece of software... |
| 19:59.05 | jelly-home | cmiller1: I think he wants uri_unescape(), ie. %2F -> '/' |
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| 19:59.40 | cmiller1 | yeah, that's why I asked for reclarification |
| 19:59.40 | cmiller1 | heh |
| 19:59.45 | cmiller1 | you're right |
| 19:59.47 | HardDisk_WP | hi all |
| 19:59.51 | docsnuggles | Perl +uri_unescape did the job. Thanks cmiller1 jelly-home! |
| 19:59.56 | HardDisk_WP | can i software overclock my cpu? |
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| 20:00.09 | abrotman | use software to make software go faster? |
| 20:00.26 | jelly-home | abrotman: it's called optimization |
| 20:00.29 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, notebook manufacturer locked the bios |
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| 20:00.48 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: not unless they have software to get into the bios |
| 20:00.52 | HardDisk_WP | well it's a c2d @2.00 ghz, and i want it at 2.20 ghz if i need it |
| 20:00.56 | HardDisk_WP | ah k :( |
| 20:01.03 | abrotman | and why the hell would you overclock a laptop? |
| 20:01.11 | HardDisk_WP | thought it 'd be possible in same way as with nvidia gpus |
| 20:01.19 | cmiller1 | lol, oh yeah harddisk, sometimes you just need that extra 200 mhz |
| 20:01.23 | HardDisk_WP | make video converting even _more_ faster |
| 20:01.26 | abrotman | "Hi, I'm not an engineer, but I think cooling is overrated" |
| 20:01.29 | Agiofws | can someoneo take alook here |
| 20:01.30 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.30 | Agiofws | Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/d8J2dn65.html |
| 20:01.37 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: get a real machine |
| 20:01.38 | cmiller1 | I overclocked a laptop once |
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| 20:01.46 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, :p |
| 20:01.49 | cmiller1 | I had to, uhh, unoverclock it because temps got so high |
| 20:01.59 | abrotman | cmiller1: that's my point |
| 20:02.04 | jelly-home | ... other people with laptops use underclocking. |
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| 20:02.28 | HardDisk_WP | btw, would underclocking work by software or would i also need hacked bios? |
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| 20:02.36 | cmiller1 | did they ever make a laptop with those old Turbo switches? |
| 20:02.53 | HardDisk_WP | dunno |
| 20:03.19 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: with certain CPUs you can make them run slower/cooler with the kernel |
| 20:03.42 | jelly-home | abrotman: like, every laptop cpu in last 5 years? |
| 20:03.44 | HardDisk_WP | hmm are c2d's supported? |
| 20:03.53 | HardDisk_WP | t7250? |
| 20:04.20 | abrotman | jelly-home: not all .. but most |
| 20:04.20 | Agiofws | Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/d8J2dn65.html <<<<<<<<<<<< can anyone help me here ? |
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| 20:04.49 | abrotman | Agiofws: why are you mixing versions of debian? |
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| 20:04.57 | HardDisk_WP | Agiofws, maybe inconsistent /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 20:05.08 | HardDisk_WP | accidentally mixed in ubuntu or debian sid? |
| 20:05.16 | Agiofws | sid i think |
| 20:05.20 | HardDisk_WP | oO |
| 20:05.24 | HardDisk_WP | never run sid |
| 20:05.27 | abrotman | Agiofws: you can't install sid packages on etch |
| 20:05.27 | Agiofws | i just need to install |
| 20:05.32 | HardDisk_WP | only if you know what you du *shrug* |
| 20:05.35 | Agiofws | mjpegtools |
| 20:05.45 | Agiofws | can i or can't i ? |
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| 20:05.53 | zzz | Agiofws: Use either etch or sid, but not both. |
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| 20:06.29 | Crashed | how to untar a tar? |
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| 20:06.31 | Agiofws | ok what do i need to fix to install mjpegtoos ? |
| 20:06.33 | Dirk_Diggler | can anyone tell me how to start postgresql on debian etch please? |
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| 20:06.42 | Agiofws | tar xvzf foo.tar.gz |
| 20:06.45 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: /etc/init.d/postgresql start |
| 20:06.55 | simonrvn | you *can't* directly install sid packages, you *have* to get/make a backport first |
| 20:06.56 | Agiofws | zzz, ? |
| 20:07.08 | abrotman | Agiofws: mjpegtools isn't even in debian |
| 20:07.14 | Crashed | just a .tar, not a tar.gz |
| 20:07.16 | simonrvn | ...or forget about it |
| 20:07.22 | simonrvn | !tar |
| 20:07.23 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory", or goes with feathers |
| 20:07.31 | jelly-home | Agiofws: remove sid from your sources.list. Use debian-multimedia etch packages. |
| 20:07.32 | Agiofws | Crashed, xvf foo.tar |
| 20:07.36 | Crashed | thanks |
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| 20:07.45 | zzz | Agiofws: was what I typed unclear? |
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| 20:08.04 | jelly-home | *** 1:1.8.0-0.4 0 400 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages |
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| 20:09.01 | Agiofws | jelly-home, api:/etc/apt# cat sources.list | /home/agiofws/bin/pasti |
| 20:09.01 | Agiofws | Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/mNJ56398.html |
| 20:09.04 | jelly-home | Agiofws: pastebin your sources.list and output of apt-cache policy mjpegtools |
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| 20:09.27 | Dirk_Diggler | abrotman: I'v tried this command but it doesn't seem to work |
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| 20:09.36 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: what fails? |
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| 20:09.52 | Dirk_Diggler | /etc/init.d# postgresql-8.2 start |
| 20:09.53 | Dirk_Diggler | -su: postgresql-8.2: command not found |
| 20:09.59 | jelly-home | Agiofws: remove the line with "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ sid main " |
| 20:10.11 | pmo_ | Dirk_Diggler, pg_ctlcluster 8.2 main start |
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| 20:10.14 | Agiofws | lapi:/etc/apt# apt-cache policy mjpegtools 2>&1 | /home/agiofws/bin/pasti |
| 20:10.14 | Agiofws | Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/umjlsA97.html |
| 20:10.17 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: ./postgresql-8.2 start |
| 20:10.20 | Agiofws | ok jelly-home |
| 20:10.37 | jelly-home | Agiofws: don't use packages for sid |
| 20:10.38 | pmo_ | Dirk_Diggler, or /etc/init.d/postgresql restart |
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| 20:10.46 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: that init script isn't in your path .. so specify its location |
| 20:10.59 | jelly-home | Agiofws: and dude, you already have mjpegtools installed. |
| 20:11.19 | Agiofws | are you sure ? |
| 20:11.25 | jelly-home | yes |
| 20:11.25 | pmo_ | abrotman, pg_ctlcluster 8.2 main start |
| 20:11.34 | abrotman | pmo_: i don't care |
| 20:11.38 | abrotman | i already gave him the answer |
| 20:11.53 | pmo_ | abrotman, ok |
| 20:11.54 | Agiofws | ok i do |
| 20:12.14 | jelly-home | Agiofws: you still want to remove that sid line |
| 20:12.27 | pmo_ | if i use wine.. do i need windows ? |
| 20:12.56 | h3sp4wn | pmo_: Silly question without more context |
| 20:12.58 | Dirk_Diggler | abrotman: ./postgresql-8.2 start seems to have worked fine |
| 20:13.08 | LoneTech | quite. nothing implies that you need windows in the first place. |
| 20:13.21 | Agiofws | jelly, i did |
| 20:13.33 | pmo_ | h3sp4wn, do i need windows to be installed ? |
| 20:14.08 | LoneTech | if you did, it'd be in contrib, not main. |
| 20:14.13 | cmiller1 | pmo_: there is a free replacement library for windows, but it's less compatible, it depends on what software you need to run |
| 20:14.20 | h3sp4wn | pmo_: No - but wine can use official win32 libs if you want it to |
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| 20:14.59 | pmo_ | h3sp4wn, hence i need a windows system somewhere, to make it run.. all i wanted to know, was not sure.. and the one i have is vista.. not really the best for comptability.. |
| 20:15.20 | h3sp4wn | pmo_: No you don't *have* to |
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| 20:15.38 | h3sp4wn | pmo_: It has its own impliementation of most - but you *can* |
| 20:15.40 | pmo_ | cmiller1, i thought about 'games'.. the only thing i don't really have on linux.. and maybe some others |
| 20:15.49 | Agiofws | jelly-home, can you look at this error |
| 20:15.51 | Agiofws | http://rafb.net/p/zUc1x031.html |
| 20:16.04 | digitalfox | Howdy, does anyone have any docs on how to configure wireless NICs in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 20:16.10 | cmiller1 | pmo_: for games you're probably going to definitely want the legit win32 library |
| 20:16.17 | digitalfox | it's not documented in interfaces(5), but I know it can be done. |
| 20:16.19 | cmiller1 | I haven't used wine |
| 20:16.24 | Agiofws | digitalfox, |
| 20:16.27 | Agiofws | do |
| 20:16.33 | Agiofws | iwconfig |
| 20:16.37 | cmiller1 | someone else help out here :) |
| 20:16.39 | h3sp4wn | For games I would use Windows |
| 20:16.42 | Agiofws | some card with wifi extension ? |
| 20:16.48 | digitalfox | Agiofws: I know how to do it by hand, but I rather do it automatically |
| 20:16.51 | digitalfox | (and not via rc.local) |
| 20:16.51 | jelly-home | Agiofws: if you're trying to build something, you probably need -dev packages of the dependencies installed |
| 20:16.55 | digitalfox | it's a convenience thing. |
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| 20:17.06 | cmiller1 | I've spent my entire life using computers and programming and have never needed any windows software |
| 20:17.07 | Agiofws | digitalfox, rc.local |
| 20:17.08 | pmo_ | h3sp4wn, yes but i keep booting / rebooting only for 'games' :( |
| 20:17.12 | digitalfox | and as I said, I know that /etc/network/interfaces can do what I need to do... I've done it before, but I got the info by word of mouth |
| 20:17.26 | Agiofws | jelly-home, how do i do that what dev packages ? |
| 20:17.27 | digitalfox | Agiofws: rc.local executes regardless of whether the NIC exists or not. (It's PCMCIA) |
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| 20:17.31 | jelly-home | Agiofws: so do a search for mjpeg and dev |
| 20:17.34 | zinx | cmiller1: i needed DOS to download Linux and write it to floppies |
| 20:17.34 | digitalfox | /etc/network/interfaces understands hotplug |
| 20:17.40 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 20:18.10 | cmiller1 | zinc: macs do that too |
| 20:18.12 | cmiller1 | lol |
| 20:18.24 | jelly-home | Agiofws: ... using apt-cache. |
| 20:18.26 | digitalfox | Agiofws: as I said, I know the functionality is there. |
| 20:18.29 | cmiller1 | I went amiga-mac-linux |
| 20:18.32 | cmiller1 | over the years |
| 20:18.33 | zinx | cmiller1: i don't believe there was any mac software to properly write the floppies :/ |
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| 20:18.45 | zinx | i may be wrong about that, of course |
| 20:18.47 | cahoot | cmiller1: downhill |
| 20:18.54 | zzz | digitalfox: Here's an URL which explains what you want to do probably: http://laic.u-clermont1.fr/~mr/linux/configreseau_en.html#wifiiface |
| 20:19.10 | digitalfox | thanks |
| 20:19.11 | digitalfox | that's perfect |
| 20:19.20 | jelly-home | cahoot: how's mac downhill from amiga? |
| 20:19.20 | digitalfox | zzz: I'd like to know why that info isn't in /etc/network/interfaces though :/ |
| 20:19.23 | digitalfox | bug time. |
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| 20:19.41 | digitalfox | er |
| 20:19.46 | digitalfox | zzz: isn't in man 5 interfaces |
| 20:19.48 | digitalfox | I mean |
| 20:19.53 | zzz | digitalfox: It's probably only for WEP though, not WPA or WPA2. (You can always file a bug report for missing information in the man pages.) |
| 20:19.54 | cahoot | jelly-home: think of it - he ended up on linux |
| 20:20.00 | LoneTech | digitalfox: /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian mentions some. to be certain, check the scripts in that package. |
| 20:20.04 | cmiller1 | zinx: maybe not for x86 installation, I started out trying linux on my ppc macs, and if I recall they got boot from CD before most x86 machines |
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| 20:20.12 | jelly-home | cahoot: I'm not debating that step ;-) |
| 20:20.16 | cmiller1 | zinx: I never installed via floppy, always CD |
| 20:20.30 | digitalfox | zzz: yeh, that makes some sense, though adding wpa_supplicant support is only a small leap from the already-added iwconfig support. |
| 20:20.37 | digitalfox | in the future |
| 20:20.37 | cahoot | jelly-home: recreation -> hard core |
| 20:20.42 | zinx | cmiller1: mac hardware kinda sucked compared to PC hardware price-wise until recently (now it -is- pc hardware) |
| 20:20.52 | LoneTech | it's not in interfaces(5) because it's an extension, added by wireless-tools. wpasupplicant is another interesting package. |
| 20:21.08 | digitalfox | oh. |
| 20:21.09 | digitalfox | I see. |
| 20:21.15 | zinx | cmiller1: i didn't have a CD drive at the time i started using linux |
| 20:21.15 | digitalfox | I wasn't aware it was an extension |
| 20:21.21 | digitalfox | I thought it was just part of ifupdown's core. |
| 20:21.23 | zinx | cmiller1: and certainly not a CD burner |
| 20:21.29 | cmiller1 | zinc: alright then :D |
| 20:21.48 | pmo_ | do any1 use mesh protocol ? |
| 20:22.05 | Agiofws | jelly-home, WHY is my package mnager so fucked up all of the sudden ? |
| 20:22.05 | LoneTech | doesn't change the fact that the docs should be easier to find and read, as well as more complete, but that's non-trivial. |
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| 20:22.13 | Agiofws | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 20:22.14 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.14 | Agiofws | E: Broken packages |
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| 20:22.28 | digitalfox | LoneTech: yeh :/ |
| 20:22.34 | Agiofws | put the stuff in rc.local |
| 20:22.37 | Agiofws | digitalfox, |
| 20:22.37 | pmo_ | Agiofws, happens sometimes :-/ time to remove stuff in /usr/src/apt/... |
| 20:22.42 | Agiofws | brind the card up |
| 20:22.42 | digitalfox | LoneTech: I dunno how you'd consolidate that without stepping on toes. |
| 20:22.46 | Agiofws | asin it an ip |
| 20:22.46 | digitalfox | Agiofws: no, I got the answer. |
| 20:22.50 | Agiofws | a wep keys |
| 20:22.52 | Agiofws | ok |
| 20:22.57 | digitalfox | Agiofws: I already told, you, rc.local is the wrong way. |
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| 20:23.04 | jelly-home | Agiofws: you still have a reference to sid in your sources.list, or you haven't done an update after removing it |
| 20:23.05 | digitalfox | Agiofws: http://laic.u-clermont1.fr/~mr/linux/configreseau_en.html#wifiiface that's the right way. |
| 20:23.07 | Agiofws | it works for me |
| 20:23.14 | digitalfox | It works, that doesn't mean it's clean. |
| 20:23.18 | Usiu | simonrvn, how to make silet command in rules so if it fail script doesnt interupt |
| 20:23.19 | Usiu | ? |
| 20:23.25 | Agiofws | jelly-home, you saw it did you not |
| 20:23.26 | Agiofws | ? |
| 20:23.31 | Agiofws | and i did an upadte |
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| 20:23.47 | LoneTech | Usiu: put - in front of a command to let make ignore if it fails |
| 20:23.50 | Agiofws | lapi:/etc/apt# cat sources.list | /home/agiofws/bin/pasti |
| 20:23.50 | Agiofws | Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/2bAIwf12.html |
| 20:23.50 | Agiofws | lapi:/etc/apt# |
| 20:24.02 | abrotman | Agiofws: stop doing that please |
| 20:24.05 | Usiu | LoneTech, thanks |
| 20:24.10 | LoneTech | in shell scripts, "|| true" at the end of a command does a similar job |
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| 20:24.33 | jelly-home | Agiofws: you _still_ have sid in line 22; you've commented out the wrong line. |
| 20:24.40 | sdubois92-laptop | I had the synaptics X.org module running fine yesterday, but when i rebooted today it doesnt work. I have synaptics in /etc/modules and i have it set to load in xorg.conf |
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| 20:24.49 | Agiofws | digitalfox, i prefer anything i configure in one file |
| 20:25.00 | Dirk_Diggler | sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.2 restart worked fine now, can anyone tell me why I can't connect to the server then? |
| 20:25.05 | Agiofws | ok let me check jelly-home |
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| 20:25.34 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: connect to it how? |
| 20:25.43 | digitalfox | Agiofws: so, does your solution work when you plug in the PCMCIA card post-boot? |
| 20:25.54 | digitalfox | (answer: no) |
| 20:25.59 | abrotman | maybe Agiofws should solve one problem at a time |
| 20:26.02 | Dirk_Diggler | I tried to createuser and createdb |
| 20:26.04 | pmo_ | Dirk_Diggler, you can login as postgres user, i suppose. and then create whatever user you want |
| 20:26.17 | digitalfox | Sorry, I'll stop dragging this discussion out :P |
| 20:26.38 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: as which user? |
| 20:26.41 | pmo_ | Dirk_Diggler, su postgres -c psql |
| 20:27.22 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: by default . in debian only the postgres user is setup to begin with. .. su - postgres .. then createuser <youruser> then do what you need |
| 20:27.25 | LoneTech | package resolvconf extends interfaces to support dns-nameservers lines, too. |
| 20:27.44 | Agiofws | digitalfox, itsa wifi card for a laptop |
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| 20:27.49 | LoneTech | that makes it cover most network setups |
| 20:27.50 | Agiofws | its a pci- express card |
| 20:27.58 | digitalfox | Agiofws: fine, for your use case it may be acceptable |
| 20:28.03 | Agiofws | and editingthe files for wifi did not work |
| 20:28.15 | digitalfox | I'm dropping this :) |
| 20:28.24 | Agiofws | all i had to see is the right sequence of commands in rc.local |
| 20:28.59 | Agiofws | exactly each problem is specific depending on the enviroment :> |
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| 20:29.43 | Dirk_Diggler | after: su postgres -c psql --> createuser testuser gives me this output: createuser: could not connect to database postgres: could not connect to server |
| 20:29.43 | dto | which imapd should i use? i'm only setting it up for my own mail on a LAN |
| 20:30.17 | socialist | Is there a way to do a logical OR in the Depends line of a debian package, something like "Depends: ia32-libs || libc-i386" |
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| 20:30.29 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: by default . in debian only the postgres user is setup to begin with. .. su - postgres .. then createuser <youruser> then do what you need |
| 20:30.37 | socialist | I'm not finding an answer to that in the policy guide... |
| 20:30.44 | Agiofws | jelly-home, i still get this error http://rafb.net/p/zUc1x031.html |
| 20:30.45 | LoneTech | dto: I'd probably go for courier or dovecot for a small setup. |
| 20:31.21 | dto | LoneTech: what i want to do is download my email from gmail (preferably with something simple like fetchmail). does IMAP snarf them from /var/mail? |
| 20:31.45 | Agiofws | jelly-home, do i have esd-config. ? |
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| 20:32.01 | abrotman | wtf |
| 20:32.02 | LoneTech | imap is the protocol, it doesn't specify the store. some daemons use maildir, others mbox, yet others their own formats |
| 20:32.02 | dto | LoneTech: |
| 20:32.22 | jelly-home | Agiofws: those are two errors. The ESD bit is because you don't have esound dev packages. The mjpeg bit is a real error, you'll need to take it up with whoever wrote that source |
| 20:32.33 | dto | LoneTech: what I mean is, how do I get my emails from Fetchmail into the IMAP server? |
| 20:32.50 | jelly-home | Agiofws: how would I know if you have esd-config or not? |
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| 20:33.17 | LoneTech | you'll want your local MTA (exim perhaps?) set up to deliver mail where your imap server reads them. fetchmail delivers to the MTA. |
| 20:33.21 | Agiofws | whats the esd package ? |
| 20:33.33 | Agiofws | esound ? |
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| 20:34.01 | netdaemon | simple question...ark or karchiver? |
| 20:34.14 | dto | so mainly i have to configure exim? |
| 20:34.29 | jelly-home | netdaemon: command line. |
| 20:34.30 | dto | i can't wait to try out Wanderlust |
| 20:34.32 | h3sp4wn | netdaemon: That is not a sensible question |
| 20:34.32 | Dirk_Diggler | abrotman: I logged in as postgres and still receive this message |
| 20:34.46 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: psql template1 |
| 20:34.55 | dto | LoneTech: thanks for the help btw |
| 20:34.57 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: but you should really just be creating other postgres users |
| 20:34.57 | LoneTech | well, you'd want to configure all the components you need. mail is a complex system imho. |
| 20:35.15 | jelly-home | Agiofws: do the same thing you did previously for mjpeg, search for a dev package and install it |
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| 20:35.36 | LoneTech | basically the mail goes fetchmail->mta->imap<->mua->mta |
| 20:35.49 | sauvin | How do you list all currently running servers in debian 4.0? |
| 20:35.53 | Agiofws | deb for esound ? |
| 20:36.15 | jelly-home | Agiofws: the -dev one, yes |
| 20:36.58 | LoneTech | sauvin: the question doesn't have an immediately obvious answer. netstat -tulp might be what you want, that lists TCP and UDP listening processes. |
| 20:37.03 | Dirk_Diggler | postgres@Thinkpad:~$ createuser testuser --> Is the server running locally and accepting |
| 20:37.04 | Dirk_Diggler | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.27 | sauvin | Hrm. What about all currently running services? |
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| 20:37.45 | LoneTech | how do you define service? |
| 20:37.52 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: is the socket file there? |
| 20:38.27 | sauvin | I was kinda afraid somebody would say something like that. |
| 20:38.43 | Dirk_Diggler | can you explain what you mean, my linux knowledge is very basic |
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| 20:40.39 | GhostlyDeath | When I double click the "CD-RW/DVDÂąRW Drive" in Computer, it says it's unable to mount it because there is no CD in the drive when there is, is there a way to fix it? |
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| 20:41.05 | cahoot | what kind of cd? |
| 20:41.09 | Agiofws | jelly-home, |
| 20:41.11 | Agiofws | checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd |
| 20:41.11 | Agiofws | checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... unrecognized option: --cflags |
| 20:41.17 | GhostlyDeath | cahoot: UDF and iso9660 |
| 20:41.52 | GhostlyDeath | cahoot: any CD/DVD that isn't blank or is an audio CD |
| 20:41.54 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: ls -a /var/run/postgresql/ do you see the socket file |
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| 20:42.14 | cahoot | GhostlyDeath: tried 'manual' mount? |
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| 20:42.24 | GhostlyDeath | cahoot: manual mount works fine |
| 20:42.44 | Dirk_Diggler | abrotman: no |
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| 20:42.58 | GhostlyDeath | cahoot: trying to get it so I don't have to manually mount it (just double click it and it appears on my dekstop) |
| 20:43.02 | abrotman | Dirk_Diggler: /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.2 start |
| 20:43.34 | cahoot | GhostlyDeath: nautilus (or whatever) is looking at correct /dev/*? |
| 20:43.45 | GhostlyDeath | cahoot: how could I chech? |
| 20:43.49 | GhostlyDeath | check* |
| 20:44.16 | Dirk_Diggler | postgres@Thinkpad:/var/run/postgresql$ ls -a |
| 20:44.16 | Dirk_Diggler | . .. |
| 20:44.24 | cahoot | GhostlyDeath: you put too difficult questions ;) |
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| 20:45.40 | jelly-home | Agiofws: sounds like your configure script needs updating |
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| 20:47.40 | jelly-home | <Agiofws> checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd <-- this is very wrong, btw. it ought to have found something like /usr/bin/esd-config |
| 20:48.12 | Agiofws | wait |
| 20:48.31 | LoneTech | sauvin: if you mean what the red hat "service" command accesses, those are simply the init scripts in /etc/init.d. they tend to have a "status" command. |
| 20:48.38 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws/cinelerra/svn# whereis esd-config |
| 20:48.38 | Agiofws | esd-config: |
| 20:48.38 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.46 | Agiofws | jelly-home, how do i install that ? |
| 20:48.59 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws/cinelerra/svn# whereis esd |
| 20:49.00 | Agiofws | esd: /usr/bin/esd /usr/X11R6/bin/esd /usr/bin/X11/esd /usr/share/man/man1/esd.1.gz |
| 20:49.00 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws/cinelerra/svn# |
| 20:49.00 | sauvin | Oo.... 'status'.... yea, thanks! |
| 20:49.06 | jelly-home | Agiofws: "search for esd dev package and install it" |
| 20:49.15 | LoneTech | that's sometimes rather unreliable, though |
| 20:49.31 | sauvin | Better than nothing. |
| 20:49.41 | jelly-home | Agiofws: sorry, no more help from me, this is the third time I'm telling you the same thing |
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| 20:49.55 | LoneTech | if you want to monitor that things work, nagios might help. |
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| 20:50.28 | ptw | "Seems like spam could be used to actually get a message out in a very quick and widespread way about injustice, working for peace, and other political issues. Why hasn't this happened yet? Spamming is so easy and inexpensive - seems like a perfect tool for subversion." |
| 20:50.32 | ptw | WORLD PEACE THROUGH MARIJUANA www.havethisbook.com very interesting FREE non-fiction, enjoy, newly updated! |
| 20:50.35 | ptw | :] |
| 20:51.08 | Agiofws | jelly-home, i can't find a dev package for esound |
| 20:51.11 | Agiofws | can you help |
| 20:51.47 | Tramp | LoneTech: From my experience, the init scripts rarely have a "status" action |
| 20:51.51 | LoneTech | libesd0-dev, but I'm probably not going to say much more. |
| 20:52.00 | jelly-home | Agiofws: not for free I can't, sorry |
| 20:52.16 | LoneTech | Tramp: ok |
| 20:52.17 | abrotman | ptw: go away |
| 20:52.19 | ptw | "if the price is right" |
| 20:52.19 | Tramp | grep 'status)' /etc/init.d/* | wc -l --> 8 |
| 20:52.20 | ptw | geez |
| 20:52.38 | ptw | i thought linux was supposed to be all about free |
| 20:52.50 | abrotman | ptw: do you have a question about debian? |
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| 20:53.47 | Agiofws | jelly-home, i cant find the dev package for esound ? |
| 20:53.55 | Agiofws | any suggestions ? |
| 20:54.07 | cmiller1 | ptw: spamming doesn't work for that because people DISLIKE spam |
| 20:54.10 | jelly-home | Agiofws: are you even reading what other people say here? |
| 20:54.19 | LoneTech | jelly: nope. |
| 20:54.28 | ptw | i only want people who are going to read it to click on it |
| 20:54.34 | ptw | its all a numbers game |
| 20:54.40 | ptw | that way, ill weed out of the ignorant |
| 20:54.42 | ptw | filter |
| 20:54.48 | abrotman | ptw: please go away |
| 20:54.49 | ptw | there's a method to my madness |
| 20:54.52 | Agiofws | i am |
| 20:54.56 | cmiller1 | a stupid one |
| 20:54.56 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws/cinelerra/svn# apt-cache search esd-config |
| 20:54.56 | Agiofws | lapi:/home/agiofws/cinelerra/svn# |
| 20:55.03 | ptw | from the looks of my web stats, i'm doing something right |
| 20:55.14 | jelly-home | Agiofws: this is not a 1-on-1 support, anyone might answer your questions. [21:51] <LoneTech> libesd0-dev, but I'm probably not going to say much more. |
| 20:55.15 | cmiller1 | people are going to be offput by your cause because you're annoying |
| 20:55.27 | ptw | i'm not making people do shit |
| 20:55.28 | cmiller1 | people are saying "who is this dick?" |
| 20:55.31 | ptw | since when does it hurt to ask? |
| 20:55.32 | Agiofws | hmm ok |
| 20:55.38 | Agiofws | srry mised that |
| 20:55.44 | jelly-home | !tell Agiofws -about search |
| 20:55.59 | abrotman | ptw: this is a support channel .. go away |
| 20:55.59 | DustyBin | !tell ptw -about death |
| 20:56.04 | LoneTech | apt-file (Contents database) is also interesting. |
| 20:56.17 | ptw | sorry for trying to give my support |
| 20:56.18 | cmiller1 | it hurts because spamming is unscrupulous and rude to all of us |
| 20:56.24 | jelly-home | Agiofws: apt-cache doesn't search for files. You want apt-file or http://packages.debian.org/ for that |
| 20:56.29 | ptw | like i said, i'm working undercover |
| 20:56.39 | LoneTech | and for the really scary stuff, auto-apt ;) |
| 20:56.41 | ptw | only a certain few will take me seriously |
| 20:56.45 | ptw | the rest will remain ignorant |
| 20:56.47 | ptw | until |
| 20:56.53 | ptw | my stuff inundates the web |
| 20:56.59 | ptw | and their friends send it to them |
| 20:57.05 | jelly-home | !ops ptw advocates spamming |
| 20:57.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly-home complains about: ptw advocates spamming |
| 20:57.10 | ptw | "oh yeah, i remember that guy who was spamming for peace." |
| 20:57.12 | LoneTech | oh, be quiet, troll. |
| 20:57.12 | ptw | :] |
| 20:57.24 | DustyBin | annoying f***** |
| 20:57.33 | GhostlyDeath | Is there a Window recording app for GNOME (recording as in capturing video and sound from ALSA)? |
| 20:57.54 | LoneTech | GhostlyDeath: yes, xvidcap |
| 20:58.08 | dotCOMmie | xvidcap does audio also? |
| 20:58.15 | LoneTech | hm, maybe I remember the name wrong.. |
| 20:58.31 | LoneTech | I think so. not overly familiar with it, honestly. |
| 20:58.36 | cmiller1 | ptw: delusions of grandeur much? go have your little fantasy elsewhere |
| 20:58.51 | GhostlyDeath | it seems an SDL map messed up my mouse (Can't move it anymore), any suggestions? |
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| 20:59.06 | Agiofws | jelly-home, i installed it it still stops at the same point |
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| 20:59.50 | sharp15 | is there a truecrypt package in apt? it's not called truecrypt if the package is present. |
| 20:59.55 | abrotman | no |
| 20:59.59 | `VL | how do i check if security updates is avaliable for my debian system? |
| 21:00.06 | `VL | and list them.. |
| 21:00.14 | LoneTech | GhostlyDeath: I tend to run something else that grabs the mouse and exit. |
| 21:00.23 | GhostlyDeath | LoneTech: any suggestions? |
| 21:00.26 | jelly-home | Agiofws: sorry. If you want help from me WRT this issue, I can give you a $50/hr rate, two hours minimum. |
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| 21:00.50 | sharp15 | abrotman: i take it that was my answer. |
| 21:00.54 | abrotman | yes |
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| 21:01.00 | abrotman | `VL: debsecan |
| 21:01.00 | wols | !tell `VL about security |
| 21:01.03 | sharp15 | ok. thank you. |
| 21:01.09 | `VL | thanks guys |
| 21:01.15 | LoneTech | dunno. some game, probably. I don't even remember doing that recently |
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| 21:01.27 | abrotman | hrm .. maybe not debsecan |
| 21:01.46 | malduin | How can I configure nautilus to open folders in the existing window rather than launching new windows all the time? |
| 21:01.48 | Agiofws | checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... unrecognized option: --cflags i wonder in which file the unrecognized option is |
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| 21:02.27 | LoneTech | malduin: search for spatial, perhaps you need to use gconf to access the setting. I don't know that well. |
| 21:03.41 | sdubois92-laptop | abrotman: hows it going? |
| 21:03.52 | GhostlyDeath | hmm for xvidcapture, what audio device would ALSA's dmix be? |
| 21:03.54 | abrotman | ok |
| 21:03.55 | xand | malduin: edit -> preferences -> behaviour tab -> always open in browser windows |
| 21:03.55 | malduin | hmmm. I looked through the nautilus prefs and didnt' see anything there. Didnt think I'd need gconf to change that setting. |
| 21:04.02 | abrotman | malduin: in etch? |
| 21:04.10 | malduin | yes etch |
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| 21:04.40 | LoneTech | GhostlyDeath: I'd probably just set the mixer setting to record the output. |
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| 21:05.09 | abrotman | malduin: i think in etch you might still need gconf to do it |
| 21:05.15 | xand | I just said how to do it |
| 21:05.20 | xand | you don't need gconf |
| 21:05.55 | malduin | xand's suggestion worked. I had already set that but just needed to restart it for the change to take effect |
| 21:06.22 | Agiofws | hey guys |
| 21:06.31 | malduin | thx xand |
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| 21:06.35 | Agiofws | i'm trying to compile stuff on etch |
| 21:06.51 | Agiofws | but i'm getting this configure error |
| 21:06.54 | Agiofws | can you help ? |
| 21:07.05 | xand | what configure error? |
| 21:07.11 | Agiofws | checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.7... unrecognized option: --cflags |
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| 21:07.48 | _IronSid3_ | onde consigo ajuda para user brasileiros? |
| 21:07.52 | jelly-home | !pt |
| 21:07.53 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 21:08.06 | _IronSid3_ | thnk |
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| 21:09.50 | dto | i switched from using /var/spool/mail to using ~/Maildir |
| 21:10.15 | dto | how can i re-spool the stuff in /var/spool/mail? |
| 21:10.26 | dto | so that it goes into my ~/Maildir via exim? |
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| 21:10.41 | Haris | Hello folks, guys, people |
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| 21:10.49 | Haris | I have php 5.2.0-8+etch7. How do I upgrade it to the latest? |
| 21:10.58 | Haris | via -> aptitude upgrade php* ? |
| 21:11.30 | petemc | dto: you could use mb2md, but that wont append to the existing maildir, if you need to reprocess it, use formail |
| 21:11.39 | Haris | apt-cache search doesn't list the exact version numbers for packages |
| 21:11.47 | wols | Haris: aptitude install php5. but I don't think there is a later php in etch |
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| 21:12.29 | sdubois92-laptop | i had the xorg synaptics module working, but today when i rebooted it didnt work. i have synaptics in /etc/modules and i have it set to load in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 21:12.42 | Haris | wols: How about security updates? |
| 21:12.56 | dto | petemc: hmm... |
| 21:13.14 | abrotman | Haris: apt-cache policy |
| 21:13.21 | abrotman | Haris: security fixes are backported |
| 21:13.42 | Haris | hmm |
| 21:13.53 | ohokthen | somebody can tell me how to reload inittab (ie after you edit it) ? |
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| 21:14.32 | Haris | abrotman: ..backported.. ? |
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| 21:14.47 | Haris | you mean included ? |
| 21:15.04 | LoneTech | ohokthen: telinit q |
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| 21:15.48 | gbw | sed .. file.sql | mysql ... how can i make this working? |
| 21:16.15 | LoneTech | sdubois92-laptop: I didn't think it could be made into its own kernel module. what fails? |
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| 21:17.20 | wols | Haris: he means the exploit is fixed in the etch version. no new version is introduced into etch |
| 21:17.35 | wols | the fix is backported from the current CVS of php |
| 21:17.47 | ohokthen | thanks LoneTech |
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| 21:22.47 | Haris | Its quite funny |
| 21:22.57 | Haris | I did a aptitude upgrade php5* and it told me |
| 21:23.05 | sdubois92-laptop | i had the xorg synaptics module working, but today when i rebooted it didnt work. i have synaptics in /etc/modules and i have it set to load in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 21:23.06 | Haris | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 21:23.06 | Haris | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.06 | Haris | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:23.28 | Haris | hmm.. |
| 21:23.39 | Haris | what's happened to pastebin.ca these days |
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| 21:24.23 | Haris | http://rafb.net/p/KoCSse85.txt |
| 21:24.23 | Ronin | .ca was fine Haris it was .com that was brutal |
| 21:24.28 | xand | Haris: you probably wanted to quote that * |
| 21:24.44 | xand | not that that's related |
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| 21:24.51 | Haris | Ronin: well, .ca has not been opening a few times in the last 3-4 days |
| 21:24.58 | Ronin | interesting |
| 21:25.07 | Taa5i | Could someone recommend a good partitioning scheme for a 10GB laptop drive please? I don't need X or any gui. |
| 21:25.08 | LoWang77 | anyone here have any experiance with stunnel |
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| 21:25.53 | Haris | xand: Same result with "php5*" and "*php5*" |
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| 21:26.49 | xand | Haris: bash will expand * where it can, so you'd get a different result if there was a file called say php5blah in the cwd ;) |
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| 21:27.08 | spx2 | how do I cut off a program the filehandle opened to a certain device ? |
| 21:27.20 | GhostlyDeath | For xvidcap, I need to record sound, I use ALSA + dmix - What /dev/ device should I record from? |
| 21:27.43 | Haris | well, I'm not sure how to put it if not like this -> aptitude upgrade "php5*" or aptitude upgrade "*php5*" or aptitude upgrade "php5-*" |
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| 21:28.36 | Haris | this happened to me before as well. I told it to upgrade some packages and rather than mentioning those, it gave me a totally different list of packages to upgrade |
| 21:28.54 | Haris | I mean, not related to it |
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| 21:30.40 | LoneTech | er, does upgrade even take arguments? Use install to upgrade a specific package. |
| 21:31.44 | LoneTech | notably, upgrade will *not* upgrade packages if it requires installing or removing others. |
| 21:32.10 | LoneTech | though I guess it's possible aptitude is different from apt-get there |
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| 21:34.56 | abrotman | currently the same AFAIK |
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| 21:35.56 | Haris | well, if upgrade doesn't take arguments, how does it know what to upgrade? |
| 21:36.09 | LoneTech | it upgrades what's installed. |
| 21:36.32 | Haris | all the packages, that is, in one go? |
| 21:36.44 | LoneTech | yep |
| 21:36.54 | LoneTech | or as close as apt resolves it to |
| 21:36.55 | telemachus | Haris: well, only the ones that need updating |
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| 21:37.12 | Haris | telemachus: (ofcourse, certainly that's the idea) |
| 21:37.26 | vlt | Hello. On _every_ boot the system stops after fsck saying "Filesystem is NOT clean". It's always the fs to be mounted to /var. When I run fsck manually everything is fine. Then I reboot (w/o even mounting it) and get the "NOT clean" again. /var is mounted from the cryptdevices-early init skript so that the device is already mounted rw when the fsck runs. Could that be the reason? How to avaoid this? |
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| 21:40.39 | telemachus | server list |
| 21:40.45 | telemachus | damn, sorry all |
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| 21:41.39 | Taa5i | How hard is it to set up an encrypted home partition please? |
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| 21:44.57 | OXIj | how to find IP by netbios name? |
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| 21:46.15 | LoneTech | OXIj: nmblookup |
| 21:46.25 | OXIj | thx |
| 21:46.39 | Taa5i | !kernels |
| 21:46.39 | dpkg | well, kernels is see kernel |
| 21:46.41 | Taa5i | !kernel |
| 21:46.43 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.23.9, prepatch: 2.6.24-rc3, snapshot: 2.6.24-rc3-git6, 2.4: 2.4.35.4, prepatch: 2.4.36-pre2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.24-rc3-mm2 |
| 21:47.02 | TheFearow | Ive got a debian install that hung halfway through the download process. When I re-run setup, will it redownload those packages or use the ones already downloaded? |
| 21:47.15 | Taa5i | Why does the 4.0r1 installer have 2.6.18 if 2.6.23.9 is stable? |
| 21:47.32 | abrotman | because etch is stable .. stable doesn't change .. etch released with 2.6.18 |
| 21:47.49 | ben_goodger | Taa5i: because 2.6.23.9 is a completely different kind of stable to etch |
| 21:48.07 | Taa5i | ben_goodger: Ah. Could you explain that a little more please? |
| 21:48.20 | abrotman | !meaning of stable |
| 21:48.20 | dpkg | "Stable" is a release, and it does not change much at all over its lifetime. There is a known set of bugs, and it gets security updates, and point releases. Some will consider this as 'stale', while others consider this one of the great advantages of Debian. http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-getting.en.html#s-updatestable |
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| 21:48.42 | ben_goodger | Taa5i: well, the "stable" conventionally referred to is the above |
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| 21:49.10 | ben_goodger | the "stable" dpkg is talking about in !kernel is some new kind of "stable" I've not heard of before |
| 21:49.19 | Taa5i | Interesting.. |
| 21:49.20 | g00se | I notice pastebin doesn't support image uploads. What does? |
| 21:49.42 | ben_goodger | imageshack.us is quite reliable |
| 21:49.48 | abrotman | !paste |
| 21:49.48 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 21:49.56 | sdubois92-laptop | !synaptics |
| 21:49.57 | dpkg | methinks synaptics is a driver for the touchpad on many laptops for synaptics support in x install xfree86-driver-synaptics or xserver-xorg-input-synaptics and "man synaptics" for the driver options, if its not working try "modprobe -r psmouse ; modprobe psmouse". also see http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/index.html |
| 21:50.09 | Taa5i | Would you recommend using stable for installing a new system or a more recent release? It's for an older pii300 laptop, but one of my wifi adapters is zydas which I recall only got kernel support in 2.6.20+ |
| 21:50.20 | g00se | ben_goodger: thanks. |
| 21:50.40 | g00se | abrotman: picpaste is easy to remember. Thanks |
| 21:50.52 | jelly-home | Taa5i: you can use debian stable for userspace, and only upgrade the kernel if you need |
| 21:51.06 | ben_goodger | Taa5i: I and many others use testing. however, it is fairly buggy atm from my perception |
| 21:51.08 | abrotman | newer kernels at backports.org |
| 21:52.40 | Taa5i | Swell. I've just gone through about half a dozen reinstalls trying everything from ubuntu to openbsd and I think I'm going to go back to Debian after all. Had it installed before but it got pretty cluttered upgrading all the way from sarge to sid so wanted to try to stay cleaner this time. :) |
| 21:53.09 | Haris | bbl folks |
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| 21:53.48 | FreshCat | :-| |
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| 21:54.18 | abrotman | Taa5i: you could start with the lenny netinst |
| 21:54.27 | g00se | Lost the menu at http://picpaste.com/del/UhzhxJxm/Screenshot_1.png Is that a problem with OOo or tightvncviewer (or me ;-)? |
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| 21:54.43 | Taa5i | There is one thing I've always wondered though, and that's why the installer offers both a linux-image-2.6-686 and a linux-image-2.6.18-5-686.. what is the actual difference? |
| 21:55.14 | dalias | the kernel debs always confuse me.. |
| 21:55.51 | Taa5i | abrotman: I may give that a try, actually. I vaguely recall that I couldn't get hibernation working in any kernel newer than 2.6.18 though, so I want to check etch first. |
| 21:55.58 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 21:56.01 | TheFearow | Nevermind |
| 21:56.17 | abrotman | Taa5i: the former is a metapackage that always gets the newest version of the kernel |
| 21:56.25 | abrotman | Taa5i: the latter is an actual kernel |
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| 21:57.18 | Taa5i | Ah, so. So if I wanted to upgrade later I'd have to do it manually instead of apt updating linux-image-2.6-686 |
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| 21:59.15 | abrotman | yes |
| 21:59.49 | abrotman | i should state that linux-image-2.6-686 will get the newest 2.6.x kernel .. there is also a linux-image-686 which might be useful if there were ever something like a 2.8 |
| 22:00.20 | Taa5i | Whatever happened to 2.5? I don't remember seeing that ever.. |
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| 22:00.30 | g00se | ? |
| 22:00.58 | Gnurdux | i wouldnt be surprised if it stays at 2.6.x indefinitely |
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| 22:01.16 | Taa5i | Zeno's kernel eh ;) |
| 22:01.26 | Gnurdux | they used to have to bump the version with major changes, but now they dont |
| 22:01.49 | Gnurdux | so its pretty arbitrary when they bump it |
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| 22:01.57 | istoc | Hey, I had a quick question about the ati driver: is there any advantage to changing "ati" to the driver it automatically selects in xorg.conf? |
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| 22:02.21 | abrotman | which one does it automatically select? |
| 22:02.41 | istoc | Someone said it would select r128 |
| 22:02.59 | abrotman | lspci | grep VGA |
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| 22:03.41 | istoc | One second, booting up, thought it would be a simple answer heh :) |
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| 22:04.54 | Taa5i | istoc: Depends somewhat on what you want to use it for. If you just need standard video then it's less important, but for 3d/drm.. |
| 22:05.08 | wubrgamer | hey guys, http://pastebin.com/d5ce6fe38 that isn't working . it's a crontab file, and I'm trying to test it out...anyone willing to edit and send me the correct way to do that ? |
| 22:05.17 | istoc | Well, I was hoping to gain some FPS by using a non-FOSS driver |
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| 22:05.35 | istoc | It's an old ibook, and it's pretty slow. |
| 22:05.53 | istoc | It just listed the gfx card: Radeon Mobility M6 LY |
| 22:06.06 | abrotman | wubrgamer: what's the file name of the script? |
| 22:06.12 | malduin | I'm running etch and all my xchat url's open in gnomes Epiphany browser. How can I force them to open as tabs in debians Iceweasel aka Firefox? |
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| 22:06.31 | istoc | Does that mean ati is loading radeon instead of r128? |
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| 22:06.41 | abrotman | malduin: Settings - > URL handlers |
| 22:06.54 | abrotman | istoc: should be |
| 22:07.02 | wubrgamer | /home/USER/Routines/routines.bash |
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| 22:07.19 | malduin | abrotman, I looked there in xchat and its set to use Opera. Do I change it there to Iceweasel or Firefox? |
| 22:07.30 | Agiofws | hey is this syntax ok apt-get install a b c d e f g h ? |
| 22:07.31 | abrotman | don't think it matters |
| 22:07.38 | abrotman | yes |
| 22:08.23 | istoc | abrotman: Why did someone think it'd load r128 then? |
| 22:08.32 | abrotman | dunno |
| 22:09.21 | istoc | Ok, just to be sure: ati is loading radeon right? |
| 22:09.22 | abrotman | istoc: look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 22:09.26 | istoc | Ok |
| 22:09.49 | malduin | there got it working now ;) |
| 22:10.16 | Taa5i | Oh hell. Halfway through scanning the mirror, my ethernet card spontanously lost route and now it won't take a new IP address from the router even when offered. I've had this happen before and never figured out why/how to fix it, I know the card works as I've used it in other distros and windows. Any ideas? |
| 22:10.45 | abrotman | wubrgamer: and it doesn't run at all ? |
| 22:10.59 | Taa5i | fwiw it's a Xircom RBEM56G |
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| 22:11.31 | wubrgamer | it doesn't run at all |
| 22:11.44 | jelly-home | Taa5i: is that a cardbus device? |
| 22:11.47 | wubrgamer | I keep editing it to run in the near future and it's not actually running squat |
| 22:11.50 | istoc | Ok, looks like it's loading radeon, could I get any gains by using r128 or are the drivers just chipset dependent or something? |
| 22:12.01 | reZo | is there a way to resize an existing "screen" command session to the current size monitor, leaving the original session the same size however? |
| 22:12.13 | jelly-home | Taa5i: if it is, unplug/plug it back in? |
| 22:12.24 | wubrgamer | figured it out ! thanks |
| 22:12.32 | Taa5i | jelly-home: That's correct. I've tried that. Tried pccardctl reset eject insert and such as well. |
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| 22:13.27 | abrotman | Taa5i: eject it .. unload the driver |
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| 22:15.58 | Taa5i | abrotman: Tried that, still no love. Won't take an IP no matter what I do. |
| 22:17.07 | istoc | Thanks for the help guys, bye :) |
| 22:18.09 | Taa5i | Unfortunately it and a 3com one that the installer doens't support at all are the only two I've found that actually fit in my laptop because it has a bay door that closes over the pcmcia slot and almost every card I've ever seen is a 4" or so one and mine only fits 3" or so long cards. |
| 22:18.59 | Tramp | Taa5i: What do you mean ba "Won't take an IP"? dhclient dies with an error? ifconfig ... gives an error or what exactly |
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| 22:19.46 | Taa5i | Tramp: dhclient keeps requesting but even when the router offers one, it doesn't take it. I can set the IP/route manually but then it can only ping lo. This is apparently a really common issue with this card and nobody has a consistent answer. |
| 22:20.08 | Taa5i | Once the system is installed it tends to work great, just with installers it's hell. |
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| 22:21.04 | Tramp | Taa5i: hmm. ok. If its a known problem ... |
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| 22:21.13 | jelly-home | Taa5i: hm, and what happens if you unload the driver as suggested? |
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| 22:21.21 | jelly-home | nm, |
| 22:21.24 | jelly-home | I'm slow |
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| 22:22.16 | abrotman | it's late for you! |
| 22:22.19 | jelly-home | Taa5i: I guess you could try an installer with a different kernel version and maybe you get lucky |
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| 22:22.31 | jelly-home | !kmuto |
| 22:22.31 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 22:22.53 | frog_ | hi, http://sial.org/pbot/28979 -- all function are called, but only S E N D I N G C O O K I E A C K appears in log. could someone explain to me why the other 3 are not beeing logged? |
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| 22:23.41 | abrotman | i think you want #c ? |
| 22:23.58 | Taa5i | I'm tempted to just go buy a separate adapter to use for just installs :/ I've fought with this one way too many times. |
| 22:24.03 | abrotman | or maybe #kernel ? |
| 22:24.10 | damog | #c or c# or #c#? |
| 22:25.48 | jelly-home | ##c |
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| 22:26.07 | jelly-home | (and I'm not kidding) |
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| 22:27.25 | jelly-home | I guess an unofficial channel for C# would be ##c# then |
| 22:28.49 | h3sp4wn | You cannot get into #c unless invited afaik |
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| 22:32.18 | b0ha | hello i still have problem with wireless |
| 22:32.27 | holycow | hey guys ... if i am tunneling via ssh through lets say 3 or 4 machines ... and want to scp from the final destination 3 boxes in to my local machine that is sitting behind a nat ... can that be done? |
| 22:32.53 | b0ha | i have drivers for my wlan card, but kwifimanager doesn't detect acces point |
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| 22:33.30 | RockerMONO | solar_sea: you there? |
| 22:33.40 | solar_sea | sure, what's up :) |
| 22:33.43 | bucky | holycow, sure if port 22 is forwarded thru that nat and all those machines to the desitination computer |
| 22:33.45 | hologram | holycow: just open/forward whichever port your home box is running sshd on in the router |
| 22:34.08 | RockerMONO | solar_sea: um... i had to reinstall debian.... :D what was the horiz/vert stuff you had me add to xorg.conf? :) |
| 22:34.23 | holycow | aha. danke |
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| 22:34.32 | hologram | bitte |
| 22:34.36 | solar_sea | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.36 | solar_sea | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:34.40 | RockerMONO | yay thanks |
| 22:34.51 | solar_sea | np |
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| 22:36.05 | RockerMONO | ooo |
| 22:36.21 | RockerMONO | is http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ the right one? |
| 22:36.31 | RockerMONO | it has that and security.debian.org |
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| 22:38.15 | abrotman | RockerMONO: use a mirror |
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| 22:38.23 | RockerMONO | ftp.us.debian.org/debian ? |
| 22:38.45 | abrotman | that's better .. or even a tertiary mirror |
| 22:39.11 | Taa5i | RockerMONO: If you can find one within your state that's probably even faster. |
| 22:39.24 | RockerMONO | brb, restarting x |
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| 22:41.49 | RockerMONO | back =P |
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| 22:46.17 | Mark17 | hello, how can i increase the size off the /var partition? |
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| 22:48.09 | RockerMONO | damog? |
| 22:49.25 | damog | RockerMONO? |
| 22:49.38 | RockerMONO | wtf is a "parted dance"? =P |
| 22:49.54 | damog | you'll never know until someone does it ;) |
| 22:49.58 | tarzeau | even more stats about debian: http://krum.ethz.ch/ddc/ |
| 22:50.05 | Taa5i | A dance inspired by or for parted I presume. |
| 22:50.35 | RockerMONO | Taa5i: but think about how much sense that truly makes =P |
| 22:50.41 | RockerMONO | [nada] |
| 22:50.55 | Taa5i | Any suggestions for a pcmcia ethernet [or wifi for that matter] card to pick up that's known to work with the installer please? :) |
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| 22:51.15 | Taa5i | RockerMONO: Don't be so quick to judge, I've known many a piece of software that I would dance for. |
| 22:51.29 | RockerMONO | parted is the name of software? |
| 22:51.31 | RockerMONO | >.> |
| 22:51.42 | Taa5i | RockerMONO: For resizing partitions, yah |
| 22:51.48 | RockerMONO | oh |
| 22:52.16 | Insolit | hi |
| 22:52.24 | Insolit | what's the best applet to control cpu freq? |
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| 22:53.56 | bucky | hey RockerMONO why don't you login into irc.gimp.org and bother Miguel for a while |
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| 22:54.00 | amphi | Insolit: applet? I just use the ondemand governor, which works well here |
| 22:54.05 | RockerMONO | bucky? |
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| 22:54.10 | RockerMONO | why? |
| 22:54.16 | bucky | RockerMONO, your mono buddy |
| 22:54.35 | RockerMONO | erm dude.... the MONO part of it is spanish |
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| 22:54.44 | grendal_prime | hey...my root user cant use cron? |
| 22:54.46 | soulrider | hello |
| 22:54.47 | bucky | so is Miguel |
| 22:54.51 | Insolit | amphi: i like to check what freq the cpu is working. |
| 22:54.58 | soulrider | can anyone point me to where i can find some info on how to upgrade to testing ? |
| 22:55.14 | amphi | Insolit: gkrellm can do that |
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| 22:55.42 | RockerMONO | is their a way to adjust the mouse speed? it keeps like zooming across the screan and it's driving me crazy >.< |
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| 22:55.56 | amphi | Insolit: or just cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq ;) |
| 22:55.57 | RockerMONO | nvm i found it >.> |
| 22:56.00 | squisher | soulrider: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, change etch (or maybe stable) to testing, then update your system with dist-upgrade |
| 22:56.10 | soulrider | k, thanks |
| 22:56.15 | wintix | soulrider: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 22:56.38 | Spida | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.39 | RockerMONO | whyyy are mouse settings so damned touchy? |
| 22:56.48 | RockerMONO | at 0 it barely moves, at 1 it zooms like crazy =[ |
| 22:57.05 | wintix | RockerMONO: use 0.5 or something. |
| 22:57.38 | RockerMONO | wintix: is that even possible? =p |
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| 23:01.50 | abrotman | soulrider: change them to lenny .. not testing |
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| 23:05.35 | Mark17 | hello, how can i increase the size off the /var partition? |
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| 23:05.53 | g00se | How do i pull the window title bar down with tightvncviewer? please see http://picpaste.com/del/9Zf9clOj/Screenshot_2.png |
| 23:05.59 | abrotman | Mark17: do you ahve extra space? |
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| 23:06.05 | lymeca | If I use "deboostrap etch ./ http://ftp.debian.org/debian" to install etch into the current directory,which packages are pulled? |
| 23:06.11 | abrotman | !tell sdubois92-laptop about root |
| 23:06.41 | Mark17 | abrotman: it should be taken from the /home directory |
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| 23:07.38 | abrotman | maybe with parted .. but usually LVM is the way to go .. but that has to be done at install |
| 23:07.58 | Mark17 | lvm isnt used |
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| 23:10.09 | sdubois92-laptop | i had the xorg module "synaptics" working yesterday, but after i rebooted today it didnt work. i have synaptics in /etc/modules and i have it set to load in xorg.conf |
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| 23:14.22 | RockerMONO | any reason alsamixer would keep setting PCM to 100 after i change it and close alsamixer? |
| 23:15.39 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ok, im trying to make a script to automatically call up bittornado from a local machine over SSH and run a torrent located on my HDD. the clinet has my HDD mounted over nfs (though the path is different...) but i cant quite seem to get it too work |
| 23:15.46 | The_Ultimate_Sam | keeps saying too many args |
| 23:16.15 | The_Ultimate_Sam | the script is very simple: echo ssh -X theman@192.168.1.201 /usr/bin/btdownloadgui $1 |
| 23:16.24 | The_Ultimate_Sam | the echo isnt normaly there |
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| 23:16.34 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i just put it there so i could see what it was outputing |
| 23:16.53 | RockerMONO | The_Ultimate_Sam: i dont think that'll work |
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| 23:17.21 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yeah, it doesnt seem to...the command itself works when i send it over the console |
| 23:17.30 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but in a script...some reason...it doesnt |
| 23:17.35 | RockerMONO | hm |
| 23:18.09 | The_Ultimate_Sam | when i send it over console i have to put both the /usr/bin/ and the dirrectory in a single quote |
| 23:18.23 | The_Ultimate_Sam | because it cant send more than one argument over the ssh or something |
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| 23:18.41 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but in the script i think those quotes are lost |
| 23:19.25 | RockerMONO | what quotes? |
| 23:19.58 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ssh -X theman@192.168.1.201 "/usr/bin/btdownloadgui /mnt/nfs2/backup/random\ stuff/Bomberman\ Jetterz.torrent" is what i would send over the console |
| 23:20.18 | RockerMONO | The_Ultimate_Sam: try using \" instead |
| 23:20.26 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ? |
| 23:20.33 | The_Ultimate_Sam | in the script? |
| 23:20.35 | RockerMONO | try changing the " to \" |
| 23:20.37 | RockerMONO | yea |
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| 23:22.04 | dkdexter | Hi, is it possible to set up remote dekstop via terminal? |
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| 23:22.35 | RockerMONO | wait... |
| 23:22.37 | RockerMONO | dkdexter: you mean ssh? |
| 23:22.51 | dkdexter | yes |
| 23:23.00 | RockerMONO | just setup an ssh server |
| 23:23.01 | pleed | I ve got a debian with an automatically installed exim4. now i would like to learn how to configure it. is there a good paper for my situation? |
| 23:23.04 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ive just been running applications with the -X switch so they run in my desktop |
| 23:23.20 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but newer installs have a "remote login" feature |
| 23:23.27 | The_Ultimate_Sam | for loging into other clients remotely |
| 23:23.35 | Tramp | The_Ultimate_Sam: In the script, quote the $1 (e.g. "$1"). Also call the script with the argument with the blanks quoted (e.g.: thescript "my argument with blanks") |
| 23:23.49 | robink | The_Ultimate_Sam: Using a session manager? |
| 23:24.16 | The_Ultimate_Sam | yes, i seen it there on my other computer but the connection doesnt work that way...so i havent tried it |
| 23:24.27 | dkdexter | RockerMONO>> sorry, debian newbie |
| 23:24.42 | The_Ultimate_Sam | hi tramp... |
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| 23:24.54 | DustyBin | on my desktop 237megs is used and i have 737megs free. on my server i have 996megs used and 15 megs free, the rest is cached? what caches the memory? |
| 23:25.05 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i have that much working...now one question...how can i tell kde to do this? |
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| 23:25.38 | mmlj4 | anyone use dovecot and postfix? I'm trying to set up SMTPS for my users to send mail through my server |
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| 23:26.18 | monchevique | where do the niggas come from |
| 23:26.20 | dondelelcaro | mmlj4: best to just ask your question |
| 23:26.20 | The_Ultimate_Sam | this script now works in console...but running it from kde and telling it to run in console doesnt work |
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| 23:26.41 | dkdexter | RockerMONO>> can you help me? |
| 23:26.46 | mmlj4 | dondelelcaro: i basically just did |
| 23:26.56 | dondelelcaro | mmlj4: yes, then. |
| 23:27.04 | RockerMONO | dkdexter: sorry, kinda busy trying to fix alsa |
| 23:27.11 | dkdexter | okay |
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| 23:27.31 | mmlj4 | ok, for the dedantic: |
| 23:27.34 | RockerMONO | why would alsamixer keep changing PCM to 100 after i close alsamixer?????? |
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| 23:27.50 | RockerMONO | it keeps all others but puts alsamixer at 100 |
| 23:27.50 | The_Ultimate_Sam | ultimately i want to run this program just as though i was running it from my own computer, but remotely on the other computer (for various reasons, not the least of which being memory) |
| 23:27.52 | RockerMONO | er |
| 23:27.54 | RockerMONO | *PCM |
| 23:28.05 | dondelelcaro | RockerMONO: it could be that your card doesn't actually support changing PCM for whatever reason. |
| 23:28.20 | mmlj4 | I'm using dovecot and postfix, and I'm trying to set up SMTPS for my users to send mail through my server... can someone help me with the configuration, please |
| 23:28.22 | dondelelcaro | RockerMONO: have you tried setting it using alsactl? Is there anything else running that would control the pcm? |
| 23:28.23 | RockerMONO | lmao wow i feel stupid |
| 23:28.26 | The_Ultimate_Sam | thats why i have the script...but i need it so i can open a torrent on my computer, and it will run on the others computer... |
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| 23:28.30 | mmlj4 | pedantic # grr... |
| 23:28.31 | RockerMONO | dondelelcaro: it's cuz i had music playing >.> |
| 23:30.07 | dondelelcaro | mmlj4: what in particular about it are you having problems with? You run a recent version of postfix and dovecot, and you enable sasl authentication, configure an auth socket somewhere under postifx's directory tree, and go from there. |
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| 23:30.22 | dondelelcaro | mmlj4: there are howtos on dovecot's and postfix's websites that are quite verbose. |
| 23:30.49 | dondelelcaro | mmlj4: if you're still lost, then show us your dovecot.conf and your main.cf |
| 23:31.20 | dondelelcaro | mmlj4: this is what I mean by "ask your actual question" |
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| 23:32.26 | sdubois92-laptop | i had the xorg module "synaptics" working yesterday, but after i rebooted today it didnt work. i have synaptics in /etc/modules and i have it set to load in xorg.conf |
| 23:32.41 | DustyBin | what does cached memory mean? |
| 23:32.44 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: it "doesn't work" in what way? |
| 23:33.00 | dondelelcaro | DustyBin: it (typically) means that memory is being used to cache stuff of disk |
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| 23:33.05 | dondelelcaro | s/of/off/ |
| 23:33.39 | DustyBin | dondelelcaro: ie. like mythtv reading large video files off the disk into memory ? |
| 23:33.55 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: it doesnt load |
| 23:33.57 | dondelelcaro | DustyBin: it's done automatically by the kernel; applications don't control it |
| 23:33.59 | sdubois92-laptop | it should show up in lsmod |
| 23:34.08 | DustyBin | ok |
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| 23:34.31 | DustyBin | as long as the cache is still physical memory i dont mind, otherwise ive only got 15megs left on my server :-S |
| 23:34.51 | dondelelcaro | DustyBin: it's physical memory; free memory is wasted memory. |
| 23:34.57 | DustyBin | Mem: 1011 996 15 0 1 706 |
| 23:35.07 | DustyBin | 706 = cache |
| 23:35.12 | DustyBin | i see |
| 23:35.25 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i guess i can just use the browser from the other computer when downloading torrents, then running the torrents is natural... |
| 23:35.52 | dondelelcaro | DustyBin: so yes, you have 707M which is trivially freeable |
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| 23:36.16 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: any ideas? |
| 23:36.22 | DustyBin | ok |
| 23:36.52 | DustyBin | ive setup vserver on debian etch, on the host i got mythtv running, and in one of the guest i got zoneminder running, everything is working perfectly, 3 machines in 1 box |
| 23:37.00 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: you don't need the kernel module, and the kernel module isn't called synpatics either. |
| 23:37.38 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: so i dont need it in /etc/modules? |
| 23:37.59 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: no. All you need is the synaptics X11 driver loaded for the mouse, and it'll work properly. |
| 23:38.26 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: so if i restart X, it will pick up on the changes i just made? |
| 23:38.41 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: you probably don't even need to restart X |
| 23:38.55 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: check your Xorg.0.log and see if it's using the synaptics driver or not. |
| 23:39.40 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: wheres that? |
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| 23:39.55 | darkbahamut | hello everyone :D |
| 23:39.57 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:39.58 | DustyBin | Cpu(s): 33.6%us = pentium 3.2 with mythtv watching and recording another channel, and zoneminder viewing a 640x480 pixel camera at the same time, running on a vserver guest! |
| 23:40.14 | DustyBin | plus i have another guest running |
| 23:40.55 | DustyBin | the futures bright, the futures virtualization :D |
| 23:41.16 | darkbahamut | umm.. nvm i gtg |
| 23:41.17 | darkbahamut | cyas |
| 23:41.21 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: the log says Configured Mouse no synaptics event device found (checked 17 nodes) |
| 23:41.42 | sdubois92-laptop | (EE) Configured Mouse no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device |
| 23:41.57 | sdubois92-laptop | im on a macbook btw |
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| 23:43.49 | iKernel | What in blazing hell is going on? Why is ifconfig not installed on my system?! |
| 23:44.06 | azeem_ | iKernel: /sbin/ifconfig |
| 23:44.06 | abrotman | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 23:44.10 | eth01 | how do i stop an IP accesing my machine by SSH? |
| 23:44.15 | iKernel | I knew that |
| 23:44.17 | iKernel | ;P |
| 23:44.18 | eth01 | or is that too advanced for this channel? =p |
| 23:44.23 | abrotman | eth01, man sshd_config |
| 23:44.24 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: yeah, that's pretty much a red hering. Does synclient do what it's supposed to do? |
| 23:44.34 | azeem_ | iKernel: so? |
| 23:44.38 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: run synclient -l; |
| 23:44.39 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: what is synclient? |
| 23:44.47 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: man synclient; |
| 23:44.52 | eth01 | abrotman, i'm thinking of hosts.deny? |
| 23:45.00 | abrotman | okay |
| 23:45.00 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled? |
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| 23:45.10 | abrotman | if you already knew .. why did you ask? |
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| 23:45.30 | iKernel | no I did not know |
| 23:45.35 | abrotman | not you .. |
| 23:45.39 | LiNuX_cHiC | I'm on my boyfriends computer, he runs Debian Sid, I don't know much about it but i am trying to change the font color on the desktop icons. |
| 23:45.48 | eth01 | abrotman: just double checking ;) |
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| 23:46.37 | jhujhiti | i've just dist-upgraded from etch to testing, and nvidia-glx seems missing. should it be? |
| 23:46.44 | iKernel | LiNuX_cHiC, what do you run on your pc? |
| 23:46.53 | jhujhiti | the other nvidia stuff is there, just -glx is gone |
| 23:47.14 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: ok, you most likely do not have Option "SHMConfig" "on" in your xorg.conf |
| 23:47.33 | LiNuX_cHiC | iKernel: debian? |
| 23:47.49 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: it's set to on |
| 23:47.57 | azeem | LiNuX_cHiC: is it gnome or kde? |
| 23:48.07 | iKernel | LiNuX_cHiC, I mean on your pc, not your bf's |
| 23:48.14 | azeem | iKernel: why does that matter? |
| 23:48.19 | azeem | iKernel: please keep it on topic |
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| 23:48.27 | LiNuX_cHiC | azeem gnome |
| 23:48.43 | sdubois92-laptop | azeem: he's just testing her, everyone knows girls dont use linux |
| 23:48.49 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: can you paste your xorg.conf in a paste site along with your Xorg.0.log and the output of dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics; |
| 23:49.00 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: will do |
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| 23:49.43 | azeem | sdubois92-laptop: huh? |
| 23:49.56 | LiNuX_cHiC | sdubois92-laptop: Hey i am new but i like it, and i made my desktop pretty by myself! |
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| 23:50.15 | azeem | LiNuX_cHiC: I think the font color is part of the theme |
| 23:50.25 | azeem | and not trivial to change unless changing the theme |
| 23:50.31 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m4af3b391 | |
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| 23:50.56 | mnk3ym4n | how do I compare two file trees to make sure all files/dirs in tree1are in, and have been correctly copied to tree2 |
| 23:51.31 | jhujhiti | no one is running testing with nvidia drivers? |
| 23:51.42 | LiNuX_cHiC | azeem before i downloaded these glass icons it was part of the theme, but now it doesnt match |
| 23:51.57 | valdyn | mnk3ym4n: with cmp or diff |
| 23:52.12 | azeem | hrm |
| 23:52.26 | azeem | LiNuX_cHiC: so the font changed when you switched the icon theme? |
| 23:52.32 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m4af3b391 | http://pastebin.com/m13200b0a | http://pastebin.com/m286a356e |
| 23:52.37 | valdyn | !why is nvidia-glx not in testing |
| 23:52.37 | dpkg | nvidia-glx is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx |
| 23:53.37 | mnk3ym4n | valdyn: thanks, now to do some manpage reading... |
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| 23:54.20 | LiNuX_cHiC | azeem yes. until i downloaded the glass icons |
| 23:54.37 | azeem | no idea then, sorry |
| 23:54.48 | azeem | you might have to edit the theme |
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| 23:55.41 | LiNuX_cHiC | azeem it doesnt give me the option |
| 23:56.02 | azeem | yeah, there is no graphical configure for that I think |
| 23:56.16 | azeem | you might have to edit the .xml or whatever controls that |
| 23:56.27 | azeem | LiNuX_cHiC: maybe you can ask in #gnome on irc.gimpnet.org |
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| 23:56.51 | LiNuX_cHiC | azeem thanks for your help :) |
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| 23:57.00 | azeem | LiNuX_cHiC: or maybe #gnome-art on irc.gimpnet.org |
| 23:57.20 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: hrm... yeah, the problem is definetly that /dev/input/mice no longer appears to have the synpatics stuff in it. What have you chagned recently? What does uname -a; and lsmod; output? |
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| 23:57.43 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: Linux Hursley 2.6.18-5-686 #1 SMP Wed Oct 3 00:12:50 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:57.44 | RockerMONO | how can i mount a NTFS drive? |
| 23:58.15 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m26567e49 |
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| 23:59.23 | sdubois92-laptop | dondelelcaro: could i have something to do with using a USB mouse too? |
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| 23:59.35 | dondelelcaro | sdubois92-laptop: oh, that's probably it |
| 23:59.39 | sdubois92-laptop | i rebooted with and without the USB mouse in |
| 23:59.42 | Enverex | hrm, is .24 likely to make it into Debian when it's released or would that be MIA too? |
| 23:59.49 | themill | RockerMONO: /msg dpkg ntfs |
