| 00:00.18 | Cusoon959 | Is there any way to make my media keys control the global volume? |
| 00:00.26 | Cusoon959 | I know I can make them do commands... |
| 00:00.29 | abrotman | !info lineakd etch |
| 00:00.33 | dpkg | lineakd: (Linux support for Easy Access and Internet Keyboards), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:0.9-3 (etch), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 452 kB |
| 00:00.40 | Cusoon959 | thanks abrotman :) |
| 00:00.48 | jack|Helium | abrotman: according to a bunch of stuff I've read it does... |
| 00:01.02 | abrotman | Cusoon959: i think you can do amixer command line stuff |
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| 00:01.10 | themill | Cusoon959: under kde or gnome, you may be able to just easily define the kb shortcut without lineak |
| 00:01.44 | abrotman | jack|Helium: depends on the chipset http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIMach64?highlight=%28CategoryHardwareChipset%29 |
| 00:01.48 | Cusoon959 | ok :) |
| 00:02.01 | shamrock` | can anyone advise me on how to stop the screen blanking after 10 minutes idle? The screen saver is off. |
| 00:02.28 | Tramp | shamrock`: xset dpms off |
| 00:02.38 | shamrock` | Tramp: is that permanent? |
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| 00:03.01 | Tramp | shamrock`: probably not reboot-safe. |
| 00:03.18 | jack|Helium | abrotman: I have one of the supported ones: 3d rage pro/mobility |
| 00:03.18 | shamrock` | and I think its xset -dpms |
| 00:03.32 | shamrock` | ? |
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| 00:04.13 | Tramp | shamrock`: that's the same, afaik. |
| 00:04.34 | shamrock` | Tramp: my terminal said "off" was unknown. |
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| 00:05.32 | Tramp | shamrock`: what? "xset dpms off" failed? |
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| 00:06.36 | Tramp | shamrock`: ah, sorry. It's "xset dpms force off". |
| 00:07.56 | shamrock` | thanks. |
| 00:09.00 | blackbart | I find myself having to run alsaconf each time I boot up. How might I be able to fix this? |
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| 00:18.24 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 00:18.25 | dpkg | <hotdog> how do i join the debian channel? |
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| 00:25.49 | themill | night all! |
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| 00:32.41 | dryrot | can someone help me with a routing problem: http://pastebin.com/m7aa28dea |
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| 00:35.25 | dryrot | how do i bring an ip alias with 'ip' ? |
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| 00:35.42 | dondelelcaro | dryrot: what does route -n; and ifconfig -a; say on the machines in question? can you ping the ip on the local machine? |
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| 00:40.25 | dryrot | dondelelcaro: i updated : http://pastebin.com/mb1f03b5 |
| 00:40.36 | dryrot | yesi can ping the alias , on the local machine |
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| 00:42.54 | dondelelcaro | dryrot: having both a # |
| 00:43.09 | dondelelcaro | 10.10.32.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 and 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 route is kind of nonsensical |
| 00:43.30 | dondelelcaro | dryrot: though that really shouldn't be causing the problem you're seeing. |
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| 00:44.42 | dondelelcaro | dryrot: what happens when you ping repeatedly that new ip? what are the switches between these two machines? what does arp -n 10.10.32.4; return on paul? |
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| 00:45.11 | dondelelcaro | dryrot: also, while you're pinging, what does tcpdump -vv -n -i eth1; do on ringo? |
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| 00:45.47 | Tramp | dryrot: first note that your netmask on the virtual IF is too big - although this should not be your problem. |
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| 00:46.18 | Tramp | dryrot: show the arp-caches of both machines (arp -an) |
| 00:47.04 | Xero | ciao |
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| 00:47.54 | Tramp | dryrot: and if you tcpdump, as dondelelcaro suggested, use the e-flag to show the layer2-headers as well. |
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| 00:49.24 | polter | anyone got a link to a howto on how to encrypt a partition? |
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| 00:52.04 | neosix | Hi! Can anybody tell me what is floating point exeption? |
| 00:52.28 | sorear | neosix: normally it means a program tried to divide by zero |
| 00:52.46 | sorear | neosix: so unless you're programming, bug report time |
| 00:53.10 | neosix | No I'm trying to run dangerdeep |
| 00:53.44 | neosix | OK thanks man |
| 00:55.14 | dryrot | rebooting (and probably getting rid of all those goofy routing tables) fixed it |
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| 00:57.04 | polter | howto for encrypting partition/drive anyone? |
| 00:57.41 | dondelelcaro | polter: the installation process will help you do that; otherwise there are a few google-able howtos out there |
| 00:57.57 | polter | dondelelcaro, well, I've been googling.. |
| 00:58.27 | grendal_prime | nagios |
| 00:58.28 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrrrr |
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| 00:58.41 | polter | and I'm not installing a system.. I just want to try to encrypt a partition |
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| 00:59.47 | _Sam-- | polter : you might want to try encfs, works for me. |
| 01:01.00 | polter | _Sam--, oh okey, will check it out.. there is something calles cfs in the repos too though |
| 01:01.26 | _Sam-- | this has some other options: http://www.debianadmin.com/filesystem-encryption-tools-for-linux.html |
| 01:03.32 | polter | _Sam--, thanks a lot |
| 01:04.03 | guillaume1 | where can I find an howto in order to run Icedove + Lightening 0.7 under Lenny ? I wanna get a calendar under the debian version of thunderbird cause it's usefull. Some people get this running by removing icedove and running thunderbird. |
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| 01:04.12 | Azar | hello honorables |
| 01:04.38 | dryrot | hello can someone help me with a ldirectord problem? http://pastebin.com/m124cd2ab |
| 01:05.01 | PDani | where can i get a debian/ subdirectory for svn source of ffmpeg, or what's the simpliest way to make a deb from it? |
| 01:05.19 | DustyBin | PDani: why do you need to compile ffmpeg |
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| 01:05.36 | PDani | DustyBin: there's no mp3lame support compiled in it |
| 01:05.47 | DustyBin | isnt there? |
| 01:05.49 | KurtKraut | Anyone using a english Debian install could paste me the result of: echo $LANG ? |
| 01:06.11 | PDani | DustyBin: vlc complains about it |
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| 01:06.30 | DustyBin | PDani: what is the exact name of the library |
| 01:06.49 | PDani | DustyBin: libavcodec0d AFAIK |
| 01:07.13 | PDani | DustyBin: and i read on vlc wiki, that "Starting from VLC revision 18876 (which means 0.9.0-svn after 17/02/2007), you can stream flash with VLC. You also need to build VLC with a fairly recent ffmpeg version (r7593 21/01/2007 or newer)." |
| 01:07.15 | Azar | KurtKraut: nothing there |
| 01:07.17 | DustyBin | libavcodeccvs51 - library to encode decode multimedia streams - runtime files |
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| 01:07.25 | DustyBin | thats in the lenny repo |
| 01:07.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | eve |
| 01:07.40 | KurtKraut | Azar, thanks |
| 01:08.02 | pepe_lucho | /clear/clear |
| 01:08.06 | khanman | KurtKraut, en_US |
| 01:08.28 | PDani | DustyBin: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libavcodeccvs51 says there's no such package |
| 01:08.44 | DustyBin | PDani: its in the etch repos too |
| 01:08.47 | DustyBin | libavcodeccvs51 |
| 01:08.53 | DustyBin | apt-get install libavcodeccvs51 |
| 01:10.45 | DustyBin | PDani: when searching for packages, use: apt-cache search anynamewhatmightrelatetothepackage |
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| 01:11.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | I made a small postscriptfile with inkscape - although it should be portrait and is displayed portrait, it prints as landscape... when I convert it with ps2pdf and print it from kpdf, it prints ok, when I print from kpdf to a postscript file and print that postscript file with lpr, it is again printed (incorrectly) as landscape |
| 01:11.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | does that make any sense? |
| 01:11.51 | DustyBin | CutMeOwnThroat: if i was you i would CutMeOwnThroat.. |
| 01:12.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell DustyBin about dibbler |
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| 01:12.43 | DustyBin | interesting. |
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| 01:14.39 | DustyBin | CutMeOwnThroat: sounds like a lpr setting maybe? |
| 01:14.58 | DustyBin | if it prints ok with kpdf why do you need to print it from lpr |
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| 01:17.05 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: does your printer understand ps? what does gv say about the ps file? |
| 01:17.52 | dondelelcaro | (the paper orientation is generally encoded in the ps, and it's possible that it's not being properly encoded, or it's encoded wrongly, and kpdf/xpdf fixes it up) |
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| 01:18.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: gv shows it correctly |
| 01:18.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | that happened after an update of some packets, but I am not sure which packet caused it :( |
| 01:19.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | the original postscript file from inkscape is only 60 lines long |
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| 01:19.31 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: can you provide the ps file? |
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| 01:19.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | sure |
| 01:20.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://nw.ath.cx/~k/tst.ps |
| 01:20.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think the postscript is ok |
| 01:20.45 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: well, in an ideal world, the raw postscript would just be shot to your printer |
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| 01:21.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | at 1st, I thought it was xpdf and actually filed an error report against it - because I had xpdf updated (as far as I remember) - only much later did I notice, that printing postscript is also affected |
| 01:21.33 | jsass | anyone a pro with Wine in here? |
| 01:21.38 | dondelelcaro | !ask |
| 01:21.38 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 01:21.44 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: do you have a faster webhost? ;-) |
| 01:21.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably have to take that back... |
| 01:22.15 | dondelelcaro | (it's been trying to connect for two minutes now) |
| 01:22.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: this is directly on a T1 network... |
| 01:22.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 01:22.26 | jsass | ok, well I'll !ask then :) |
| 01:22.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: then I guess the dyndns address didn't get updated |
| 01:22.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 01:22.50 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: ah |
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| 01:23.02 | dondelelcaro | well, you can dcc it to me or whatever. |
| 01:23.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | or something else weird... moved the computer today... additional breakage is not to be excluded |
| 01:23.17 | jsass | I am running ubuntu feisty. while using Wine-doors, I am getting an error while trying to install Windows Installer 2 |
| 01:23.35 | jsass | if anyone has done this properly, lemme know |
| 01:23.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | !tell jsass about ubuntu |
| 01:23.50 | dondelelcaro | jsass: #ubuntu is the place to ask about Ubuntu, or try #wine |
| 01:23.59 | dondelelcaro | err, #winehq |
| 01:24.34 | jsass | whoops! thanks guys |
| 01:24.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: http://rafb.net/p/ucmTAj46.html |
| 01:25.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | wine-doors? |
| 01:26.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | nice demonstration of the uselessness of topics, btw :) |
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| 01:27.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | "Konversation"? must've been a German |
| 01:27.36 | techrush | haha |
| 01:27.44 | techrush | or a KDE user |
| 01:27.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 01:27.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | CutMeOwnThroat, kde |
| 01:28.12 | techrush | this is OT but it kinda bothers me they insist on naming EVERYTHING in kde with a K |
| 01:28.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | techrush: file it as a bug against kde |
| 01:28.56 | techrush | good point |
| 01:29.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | techrush, KDE4 will have less K* apps |
| 01:29.02 | techrush | someone probably already has |
| 01:29.39 | techrush | Kamping_Kaiser, funny thing for someone with your nick to say :) |
| 01:30.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | techrush, hehe. |
| 01:30.45 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: it's supposed to be portrait, right? |
| 01:30.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 01:30.55 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah, the ps is right |
| 01:31.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | it displays right also |
| 01:31.34 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: so guessing, it's possible that /etc/papersize is wrong, or lprng, cups or whatever is munging the ps before sending it to the printer, and screwing it up |
| 01:31.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | but when I print it, only the bottom part is visible - font going top-bottom |
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| 01:32.00 | RockerMONO | hi... how can i untar a tar.gz file? :) |
| 01:32.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, papersize is wrong, it's a4 instead of letter |
| 01:32.12 | dondelelcaro | RockerMONO: with tar; man tar; and see the examples at the bottom |
| 01:32.22 | RockerMONO | ok |
| 01:32.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | but that shouldn't matter (as the two are fairly similar)? |
| 01:32.41 | dondelelcaro | (actually at the top) |
| 01:32.50 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah, that shouldn't cause it; are you using cups? |
| 01:33.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 01:33.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 01:33.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure if that brother printer understands ps |
| 01:33.22 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: I would guess something there, then. |
| 01:33.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | me, too |
| 01:33.32 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: since if I were to print it here, it'll come out right. |
| 01:33.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | do you have the latest cupsys/unstable on your system? |
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| 01:34.49 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, but I'm using a real PS printer |
| 01:34.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 01:35.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, this PS is only 60 lines, so nothing to lose there if it doesnt understand it :) |
| 01:36.15 | dondelelcaro | yeah; I checked just for fun, and it prints fine |
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| 01:36.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | we;; |
| 01:36.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops... well |
| 01:37.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | if I send it to the printer via ftp, it also prints fine |
| 01:37.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | good job, cups! |
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| 01:38.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | so obviously this file is not sent directly to the printer, but rotated incorrectly |
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| 01:38.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | lpr rotates it that way, so does xpdf with pdfs, but kpdf and gpdf work fine |
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| 01:39.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
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| 01:39.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | inkscape uses lpr and xpdf also uses lpr |
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| 01:42.03 | dondelelcaro | yeah, lpr is really just an interface to cups |
| 01:42.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | kpdf and gpdf don't use lpr, though |
| 01:42.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure what they use |
| 01:42.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 01:43.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | funnily enough, I also have a postscript file that prints correctly |
| 01:43.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | but it |
| 01:44.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | but it's 3300 lines long, so I better find something shorter |
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| 01:46.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | and it's a simple exchange of the two - if I select landscape in inkscape, it prints "correctly" (correctly for the portrait document, that is, not correctly as landscape, as selected) |
| 01:47.01 | vvn | dondelelcaro: fixed my bug |
| 01:47.01 | vvn | the culprit was authdaemond |
| 01:47.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:49.22 | leftylink | how did ThomasY do that part message? Is there something that displays your own nick back to you? |
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| 01:50.32 | cast | /help part |
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| 01:50.34 | PDani | how can i set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS for apt-src? |
| 01:50.38 | cast | [in irssi, anyway] |
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| 01:51.51 | fengor | yay how i love not having the rights i need. /me has overfull partition and no rights to make new space |
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| 01:52.58 | cast | fengor: subvert the flawed authority! |
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| 01:55.00 | fengor | nah i just escalated it to the ppl with the rights to do somethign about it. soomehow these things always happen half an hour after they went to sleep ;p |
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| 01:55.49 | fengor | adding my user to the adm group should enable me to move and view the logfiles right? |
| 01:56.26 | dondelelcaro | vvn: cool. |
| 01:56.44 | dondelelcaro | PDani: it's just an environmental variable. |
| 01:56.58 | PDani | dondelelcaro: thx |
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| 01:59.07 | cast | fengor: ls -l /var/log/ and see ;P |
| 01:59.16 | Maxt3r | what cool apps do you guys have running on your server ? |
| 01:59.43 | cast | mercurial is quite cool. |
| 02:00.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | as expected, kghostview also prints it correctly |
| 02:00.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | I nearly suspect they send the file directly |
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| 02:01.38 | cast | gnunet is cool as well [encrypted/anonymous p2p] |
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| 02:03.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh... kghostview has "landscape" selected for the orientation of the paper on that printer - so probably all kde apps have that and that probablyl fixes it for them |
| 02:03.31 | dondelelcaro | heh |
| 02:03.49 | mbroeker | Maxt3r, drupal5 is cool. the best blog software i ever used... |
| 02:04.07 | Maxt3r | k |
| 02:04.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | but that still doesnt explain why I have one postscript file, that is printed properly |
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| 02:11.11 | yopa3 | i need to cut about a 100mb from my minimal debian install /w x, fluxbox, & firefox. does a smaller kernel package exist? or a smaller xserver? |
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| 02:11.41 | yopa3 | i'm running debian in an virtual machine |
| 02:11.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | remove firefox |
| 02:12.41 | yopa3 | hmm, can't. |
| 02:12.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | NOT true :) |
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| 02:13.12 | yopa3 | well, i have other options. |
| 02:13.21 | yopa3 | i just have 400mb about in terms of disk space |
| 02:13.39 | yopa3 | i can't really go over that unless i can get compression somehow |
| 02:14.10 | yopa3 | i don't think debian has a fs i can use /w compression at the moment. ext4 i think might get it. |
| 02:15.03 | moeb | is there a command line tool to do complex queries on the package cache/installed package database? e.g. "show all installed packages with matching description"? |
| 02:15.44 | moeb | sort of a advanced dpkg -l/apt-cache |
| 02:16.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | matching description? |
| 02:17.49 | moeb | like an apt-cache search, restricted to installed packages |
| 02:17.59 | moeb | for that particular example |
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| 02:19.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | don't think so |
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| 02:20.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | but apt-cache search XX | awk '{print $1}' | xargs -i dpkg -l '{}' |
| 02:20.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | should do the trick |
| 02:20.53 | UnknownArtists | hi @all, i have root access to an debian server. but i couldnt restart the system... if i type "reboot" or "shutdown -r now" i'll get the following message: "reboot |
| 02:20.54 | UnknownArtists | The system is going down for reboot NOW!oerde.de (pts/12) (Sat Dec 8 03:18:4 |
| 02:20.54 | UnknownArtists | shutdown: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl |
| 02:20.54 | UnknownArtists | init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl |
| 02:20.54 | UnknownArtists | " what am i doing wrong |
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| 02:24.09 | UnknownArtists | hi @all, i have root access to an debian server. but i couldnt restart the system... if i type "reboot" or "shutdown -r now" i'll get the following message: "reboot |
| 02:24.17 | UnknownArtists | The system is going down for reboot NOW!oerde.de (pts/12) (Sat Dec 8 03:18:4 |
| 02:24.21 | UnknownArtists | shutdown: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl |
| 02:24.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | we read that |
| 02:24.43 | cast | dpkg -l |grep thing might be handy too since dpkg -l lists the 1 line description, to |
| 02:24.44 | dpkg | No packages found matching |grep thing might be handy too since dpkg -l lists the 1 line description, to |
| 02:24.54 | UnknownArtists | oh sorry i thought because i was kicked because pasting more than one line you didnt get it |
| 02:25.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | true... no, it was only 3 lines, so we got it |
| 02:25.17 | baz12 | have you tried "init !" which would take you to root level first and maybe you can reboot from there |
| 02:25.25 | baz12 | "init 1" |
| 02:25.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | not so good idea if it's a remote machine |
| 02:25.50 | UnknownArtists | it's a remote machine |
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| 02:26.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | but it would give the same error anyways |
| 02:26.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think |
| 02:26.17 | baz12 | so i guess you need root access to reboot a remote machine |
| 02:26.28 | baz12 | root access to the remote |
| 02:26.42 | UnknownArtists | i am root |
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| 02:26.58 | baz12 | root on your machine or on the remote? |
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| 02:27.03 | UnknownArtists | on remote |
| 02:27.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, just to rule out the obvious... when you give it "id", does it show you are root, too? |
| 02:27.09 | lhadji | UnknownArtists, have you tried reboot -f? |
| 02:27.23 | UnknownArtists | lhadji, no i'll try |
| 02:27.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | -f is not force, it's "fast" |
| 02:27.51 | mbroeker | very fast... |
| 02:27.56 | mbroeker | too fast ... |
| 02:27.56 | lhadji | yep |
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| 02:28.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | not really |
| 02:28.15 | UnknownArtists | perfect ir works |
| 02:28.18 | lhadji | :D |
| 02:28.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | only means fsck is skipped |
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| 02:28.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
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| 02:28.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | that doesnt really make sense, does it? |
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| 02:28.38 | dbzdeath[lappy] | how would i kill a process that doesn't get killed by kill -9? |
| 02:28.42 | UnknownArtists | thx4help |
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| 02:28.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | dbzdeath[lappy]: you don't |
| 02:29.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | that one was easy :) |
| 02:29.22 | mbroeker | dbzdeath[lappy], kill -15 `pidof <progname>` or killall progname try it multiple times |
| 02:30.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | if -9 doesn't kill it, nothing will - it's waiting for a hardware event to finish and cannot be terminated until that happened |
| 02:31.27 | dbzdeath[lappy] | CutMeOwnThroat: i was burning something and i had to kill the application that was running because it failed and now i can't mount anything because of a busy error.. any help? |
| 02:31.34 | dbzdeath[lappy] | besides rebooting |
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| 02:32.13 | mbroeker | hm: what the hell is this... |
| 02:32.14 | maxo | hi |
| 02:32.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | dbzdeath[lappy]: no help... you can wait until a timeout occurs in the hardware |
| 02:32.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | or you can reboot |
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| 02:32.21 | maxo | I've got a D-Link DWL-610 pcmcia wireless card. But whenever I enter the encryption key, the entire system freezes. How do I fix this problem? |
| 02:32.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's it |
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| 02:32.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | dbzdeath[lappy]: perhaps you can try to remove the kernel-image for the hardware that hangs, but that normally also fails |
| 02:33.08 | mbroeker | why is the spamassassin cronjob waiting ONE HOUR per default? |
| 02:33.18 | dbzdeath[lappy] | CutMeOwnThroat: the kernel-image? as in linux-image-`uname -r` ? |
| 02:33.30 | mbroeker | # Sleep for up to 3600 seconds |
| 02:33.30 | mbroeker | # Taken from apticron's cron.daily |
| 02:33.44 | mbroeker | i wont believe it. |
| 02:33.49 | Kevin` | maxo what chipset and driver? |
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| 02:34.50 | maxo | kevin: chipset is rtl8180. Driver is DWL-510 |
| 02:35.11 | Kevin` | maxo I mean what driver are you using in linux |
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| 02:36.30 | maxo | kevin: I'm not sure, how can I find that out? lspci just gives DWL-510 |
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| 02:52.14 | mick_home | hi everyone - i'm having a problem buil;ding busybox (binutils specifically) -- i have this problem: http://www.busybox.net/lists/buildroot/2007-August/004391.html -- the answer says "install make info (part of texinfo)" -- but i have texinfo (makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.11)). any ideas? |
| 02:52.33 | pickcoder | I'm trying to install Etch on a new server and it's hanging after downloading the base install. the last thing in the debug console is apt getting the whois package. |
| 02:53.20 | pickcoder | any ideas on where to start debugging? |
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| 02:54.26 | cast | pickcoder: dunno, when i have problems with the installer i use debootstrap |
| 02:54.31 | mbroeker | pickcoder, check the drive space on the /var/ partition! |
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| 02:55.37 | mbroeker | pickcoder, that do only affect your machine if, say your /var/ partition is too small to store the downloaded files... |
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| 03:15.14 | _Sam-- | abrotman : if you're there, thank you for telling me to try memtest86 on my etch server which wont run...unfortunately, you were right. |
| 03:15.27 | _Sam-- | er, which wont run reliably. |
| 03:15.40 | _Sam-- | (showed you a kernel oops) |
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| 03:16.05 | Sam1337 | I have a hdd encrypted with dm-crypt, if I install debian onto this hdd will it ask me for a new dm-crypt passphrase or can I continue using my current passphrase? |
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| 03:17.47 | yopa3 | how would i get jfs filesystem compression working with a debian install? |
| 03:18.12 | yopa3 | *or any compression for any filesystem. |
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| 03:20.11 | guillaume | is it normal that on my dell laptop running on ac adaptator, my battery stay at 90% of charge ? Won't it damage it ? |
| 03:20.29 | ColdFyre | is the battery older? |
| 03:20.54 | ColdFyre | it won't damage it, no |
| 03:20.57 | guillaume | ColdFyre: nope it's a new laptop less than 3 months |
| 03:21.16 | ColdFyre | so it's always at 90%? |
| 03:21.22 | pickcoder | sorry.. had to help feed the girls and lay them down |
| 03:21.41 | pickcoder | I have a 1TB RAID array that's used for / |
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| 03:22.00 | pickcoder | and ext3 had no problems setting the partitions up |
| 03:22.06 | pickcoder | er mkfs |
| 03:22.20 | kminor | What's the best way to make a bootable/livecdish .ISO image of your current debian system.... |
| 03:22.59 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: is there a problem with them? |
| 03:22.59 | guillaume | ColdFyre: I check devices info in /proc but can't see nothing strange |
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| 03:23.16 | pickcoder | "them"? |
| 03:23.17 | dondelelcaro | (the partitions, not the girls) |
| 03:23.20 | pickcoder | oh |
| 03:23.27 | pickcoder | I hope not, it's a brand new box |
| 03:23.42 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: oh, I thought you wer erspeonding to som ekind of problem. |
| 03:23.42 | pickcoder | I didn't perform a full init on the array |
| 03:23.48 | ColdFyre | guillaume: does the same issue happen in another os? |
| 03:23.55 | pickcoder | yeah, the R1 installer fails on me |
| 03:23.58 | pickcoder | 4th time now |
| 03:24.04 | pickcoder | tried several different media |
| 03:24.17 | pickcoder | it's hung right after it gets the base install from the mirror |
| 03:24.28 | pickcoder | apt gets whois and it sits there like a rock |
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| 03:24.37 | kminor | After researching genisoimage/mkisofs, system-imager, geteltorito, isomaster, debian-installer, etc...I haven't found a clear and concise solution to backup the current hda1 setup to a bootable livecd.. |
| 03:24.42 | guillaume | ColdFyre: I'm only running 100% lenny |
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| 03:25.19 | troytroy | hi folks i am trying to install chillispot on etch |
| 03:25.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: could you compare your cups versionis/packets to those in http://pastebin.ca/809003 ? I am prone to give up on that portrait/landscape thing for now, although it's annoying me a lot,.... but I don't know much about the internal workings of cups or whatever else is in between the original postscript and the printer |
| 03:25.56 | troytroy | but when i start the chillispot the network interface chilli is bound to give this error |
| 03:26.14 | troytroy | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready |
| 03:26.24 | kminor | I have refused to use ubuntu...but unfortunately a developer made me wish I had....#remastersys backup system.iso would be the only thing I would have to do on ubuntu...unfortunately it depends on ubiquity for ubuntu...and I'm hoping there is a "debian" way to complete this |
| 03:26.29 | troytroy | its a realtek ethernet nic |
| 03:26.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | dbzdeath[lappy]: oops, sorry, I meant the kernel-module :) typo... (and was afk for a while so saw your question only now) |
| 03:26.59 | kminor | any suggestions would be helpful |
| 03:27.32 | troytroy | hi folks i am trying to install chillispot on etch |
| 03:27.34 | troytroy | but when i start the chillispot the network interface chilli is bound to give this error |
| 03:27.46 | troytroy | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready |
| 03:27.53 | troytroy | its a realtek ethernet nic |
| 03:28.03 | troytroy | please what could be causing this |
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| 03:28.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | mbroeker: not sure what your spamassassin cronjob is supposed to do - but if it's waiting for spamassassin to finish on a bigger batch of mail, that's not unrealistic |
| 03:28.30 | kminor | troytroy : have u configured chillispot (http://www.chillispot.org) |
| 03:28.43 | troytroy | kminor yes |
| 03:28.46 | kminor | troytroy : also, is eth1 the interface that you are using for your wireless card? |
| 03:29.16 | troytroy | kminor its an eth nic hooked to a switch with aps attached |
| 03:30.31 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: are you sure it's cups that's the problem and not the ppd? |
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| 03:30.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
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| 03:31.16 | Sam1337 | I have a hdd encrypted with dm-crypt, if I install debian onto this hdd will it ask me for a new dm-crypt passphrase or can I continue using my current passphrase? |
| 03:31.19 | kminor | troytroy: I've never used chillispot personally....but did you get an error #? |
| 03:31.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: kind of... I don't think I changed the ppd for ages, but I updated some packages - cups among them as far as I can tell |
| 03:31.35 | guillaume | ColdFyre: If i refer to gnome-power-manager 2.18.3 it show 90% but /proc/acpi/battery return charging state : charged ... |
| 03:31.38 | squisher | vlc is not installable in sid because libiso9660-4 is not available anymore... does anyone know why it's been removed while the vlc packages have not been compiled against the new lib? |
| 03:32.09 | troytroy | kminor no error number |
| 03:32.15 | ColdFyre | all i can think of it's a bug in some acpi..try a different kernel/make sure your software is up to date |
| 03:32.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: the only way that the ppd could be the problem was if the update of any of those packages to unstable selected to use a differend ppd |
| 03:32.24 | ColdFyre | if you are sure your battery is good |
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| 03:33.01 | pickcoder | or the ppd changed |
| 03:33.15 | pickcoder | have you tried getting a ppd for your printer, from the vendor? |
| 03:33.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: but that is luckily easy to check... doing that right now |
| 03:33.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 03:33.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems there is a weird ppd in place for the printer |
| 03:34.08 | guillaume | ColdFyre: When a linux laptop is used generally with ac adaptator, do you think it may be a good idea to remove the battery to preserve it ? |
| 03:34.20 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: odds are that if you run the raw PS through ps2pdf or some other PDF generator and the PDF displays what the printer should be generating, then it's not cups |
| 03:34.36 | squisher | guillaume, with an older laptop I had, I ruined my battery by always running on ac and leaving it in |
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| 03:35.17 | ColdFyre | it depends on the hardware |
| 03:35.29 | ColdFyre | and how you charge,discharge the batteries |
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| 03:35.36 | guillaume | ColdFyre: Dell xps m1710 |
| 03:36.11 | guillaume | ColdFyre: I just use the laptop running on ac most of time |
| 03:36.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: ok, not sure if I used a generic one or a ppd from the linux database, but I will just install the one from the database and see if that fixes it |
| 03:36.46 | ColdFyre | guillaume: just follow the rule of thumb for proper battery care. i've used my inspirion 9300 on the ac for 2 years w/ battery in it |
| 03:36.50 | ColdFyre | still works perfect |
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| 03:37.36 | pickcoder | guillaume: if it's a nicad pack, yes.. Take it out if the laptop will run without it. |
| 03:38.06 | pickcoder | if it's Li-Ion or NiMH then you are better off leaving it in so that the cells can be discharged and recharged correctly |
| 03:38.09 | troytroy | cb_tun_ind. Packet received: Forwarding to link layer |
| 03:38.09 | troytroy | Received packet with no destination!!! |
| 03:38.11 | ColdFyre | pickcoder: do they even use nicad in laptops |
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| 03:38.18 | troytroy | please could some one help |
| 03:38.22 | ColdFyre | i have never seen one, only lion |
| 03:38.24 | pickcoder | ColdFyre: "older laptop" |
| 03:38.34 | pickcoder | I have a Compaq that has a nicad pack |
| 03:38.42 | pickcoder | dead.. nicad pack |
| 03:38.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: hm, nope I just put the correct ppd from http://www.linuxprinting.org in place and that didn't change a thing... |
| 03:39.11 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: does that page say that it's fully supported? |
| 03:39.18 | guillaume | pickcoder: it's a Lion type one |
| 03:40.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: "works Perfectly" |
| 03:40.38 | DrIP_Home | hi all |
| 03:40.54 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: are you trying to change paper size? |
| 03:41.01 | DrIP_Home | i've just downloaded the "business card size" install disk |
| 03:41.16 | DrIP_Home | do you have an installation "guide" i can follow? |
| 03:41.24 | guillaume | what's the meaning of acpi design voltage fot battery ? |
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| 03:41.25 | pickcoder | !d-i |
| 03:41.25 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now Testing! |
| 03:41.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: what do you mean? |
| 03:41.40 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: what's breaking? |
| 03:41.44 | ColdFyre | design voltage is the voltage the battery will maintain |
| 03:41.50 | troytroy | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready |
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| 03:41.59 | troytroy | hi what could be giving this error |
| 03:42.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: some postscript files print 90 degree rotated... i.e. landscape instead of portrait or vice versa - but not if I send that postscript to the printer directly, only if I print via lpr |
| 03:42.36 | pickcoder | troytroy: the interface is not active |
| 03:43.03 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: are you using a printer manager? |
| 03:43.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: and also not all postscript file - I have at least one that prints correctly |
| 03:43.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, what would you call a printer manager? |
| 03:43.41 | pickcoder | to edit the configs |
| 03:43.48 | liable | anyone know how to get an eeprom dump from a serial device? |
| 03:43.49 | pickcoder | Gnome or KDE |
| 03:44.07 | pickcoder | liable: *scratching head* |
| 03:44.11 | pickcoder | RS-232? |
| 03:44.36 | liable | pickcoder: trying to workaround stupid IBM bios whitelist |
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| 03:45.20 | guillaume | ColdFyre: The design capacity is set to 7200 mah but remaining capacity stay to 6481 mah does it mean I damage my battery ? |
| 03:45.25 | pickcoder | liable: once more, with clarity? |
| 03:45.48 | ColdFyre | no, it doesnt |
| 03:46.10 | liable | pickcoder: the bios whitelists on dev id, altering that will let you use non-authorised cards |
| 03:47.08 | liable | ooh, ftdi-eeprom may be what i want |
| 03:47.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: what is a printer manager? I don't think I use one... if you don't call cups one... |
| 03:47.37 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: never mind |
| 03:47.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok :) |
| 03:47.49 | pickcoder | I need to get this install working |
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| 03:49.15 | troytroy | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready |
| 03:49.17 | troytroy | hi what could be giving this error |
| 03:49.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | no network cable? :) |
| 03:51.14 | guillaume | if there's sysadmins, does somebody know if it's possible to use debian on fujitsu rx330 s1 server ? I try to ask french branch of fujitsu-siemens company that redirect me on a reseller but he couldn't answer me about debian support |
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| 03:51.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually not... more like... no hardware or so |
| 03:52.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | guillaume: http://www.debian.org/ports/ ? |
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| 03:54.27 | guillaume | CutMeOwnThroat: I think I had to try etch amd64 but just wanna know if someone else try this before |
| 03:54.40 | mbroeker | guillaume, http://facts.fujitsu-siemens.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dspcontent&lid=28&page=3 They directly support suse and redhat. Give it a try. |
| 03:55.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | if it's an amd-64, why should debian not run? |
| 03:56.11 | troytroy | guillaume debian is crap no better user community support |
| 03:56.21 | troytroy | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready |
| 03:56.41 | pickcoder | troytroy: stop hassassing the channel |
| 03:56.49 | troytroy | what could cause this error i have googled and seems to be specific to debian ditros |
| 03:56.50 | pickcoder | if someone has an answer they will respond |
| 03:57.03 | troytroy | pickcoder shutup |
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| 03:58.12 | dondelelcaro | HAND. |
| 03:58.39 | bucky | guillaume, it would depend on if etch has support for the SAS controller |
| 03:59.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | troytroy: so you googled that? and didn't find hit no 1? |
| 03:59.03 | dondelelcaro | guillaume: it's definetly possible to run it, though it may require a more recent kernel. |
| 03:59.04 | guillaume | bucky: taht's what i was thinking about |
| 03:59.21 | dondelelcaro | (well, if it'll run any kind of linux, it'll run Debian) |
| 04:00.11 | bucky | what's the factoid for the debian install cd with all the sata drivers |
| 04:00.23 | bucky | was it from osuosl ? |
| 04:00.31 | dondelelcaro | you can just use the testing dailies for that, actually. |
| 04:00.54 | cast | bucky: /msg dpkg listkeys string perhaps |
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| 04:01.05 | jelousbuddy | has anyone ever experienced heart attack/ failure? if so how was it? and are you ready for it? |
| 04:01.08 | dondelelcaro | (and use the expert mode to install stable, then before it reboots, chroot, and install the correct kernel.) |
| 04:01.12 | bucky | dondelelcaro, does that support the MegaRAID 8480 SAS |
| 04:01.15 | dondelelcaro | jelousbuddy: way off topic... |
| 04:01.34 | cast | who thinks he typed that in 4 seconds :| |
| 04:02.05 | dondelelcaro | bucky: I've no idea; I would assume so... it is (well, should be) using 2.6.22 |
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| 04:03.06 | pickcoder | bucky: check the sata guide on linuxmafia |
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| 04:03.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
| 04:03.39 | dondelelcaro | ¿ |
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| 04:04.29 | bucky | guillaume, listen to pickcoder ^^ if that doesn't work |
| 04:04.30 | bucky | http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers |
| 04:05.07 | pickcoder | it depends on the chipset |
| 04:05.29 | pickcoder | many of the SAS boards use the same one as the SATA |
| 04:05.51 | guillaume | pickcoder: I havn't buy yet this server, so I don't know the SATS chipset type |
| 04:06.18 | _Sam-- | how can i tell what type of ram is in a running system? like the speed of the ram , etc ? |
| 04:06.26 | dondelelcaro | guillaume: the sales rep should be able to tell you that |
| 04:06.43 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: if you're lucky, you can use i2c to figure that out |
| 04:06.52 | dondelelcaro | (but don't hold your breath) |
| 04:07.29 | guillaume | pickcoder: in all case if I use debian on it I can only use softraid but is that compatible with hot swap for SATA disks ? |
| 04:07.43 | _Sam-- | any way to tell what exact Mobo is in the system from a running machine, donde? |
| 04:07.59 | dalias | in general no |
| 04:08.18 | pickcoder | guillaume: why only softraid? |
| 04:08.32 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: sometimes you can figure it out by looking at the mapped bits of the bios, but that doesn't always map to what the motherboard *actually* is. |
| 04:08.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: could you compare your cups versionis/packets to those in http://pastebin.ca/809003 ? |
| 04:08.54 | klync | _Sam--: you can use lspci to find out a lot about the chipset |
| 04:08.56 | pickcoder | guillaume: I would never attempt hot swap on anything that isn't plugged into a card that supports hot swap |
| 04:08.59 | pickcoder | softraid or not |
| 04:09.11 | bucky | guillaume, read this and come back and tell us |
| 04:09.11 | bucky | http://linux-ata.org/software-status.html |
| 04:09.15 | guillaume | pickcoder: this server does |
| 04:09.17 | _Sam-- | thank you |
| 04:09.20 | stew | _Sam--: try dmidecode |
| 04:09.36 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: the same, save that I don't have cups-pdf, nor the *-driver-* packages installed |
| 04:09.44 | guillaume | bucky: I'll and thank you very much for tour help |
| 04:09.46 | pickcoder | I can't find anything about the chipset for that 8480 card |
| 04:10.09 | _Sam-- | stewie: THANKS. |
| 04:10.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: thx, I'll try to remove the *driver*s then |
| 04:10.43 | pickcoder | I can only assume that the megaraid driver would support it |
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| 04:12.14 | _Sam-- | nice little tool |
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| 04:13.42 | Azar | :) is it Saturday yet? fun story: http://polishlinux.org/apps/openofficeorg/microsoft-drops-support-for-ooxml/ |
| 04:14.24 | squisher | Azar: you mean, is it april 1st yet? :) |
| 04:14.48 | Azar | well hell nice reply to the October anti ODF article |
| 04:14.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro: didn't work either. Oh well, thanks, guess I try to find out another time... I start thinking it must be something in the "bloody stupid" category... these are often the hardest to find |
| 04:17.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: also thx, kinda good idea with the ppd... pity that it's none of the things I checked |
| 04:18.26 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: make sure there's not an odd feature enable like "assume unknown data is text |
| 04:19.10 | guillaume | I have lots of recent hardware (bluetooth headset(no audio.service in bluez-utils package), DV camcoder(due to iee1394 new driver of kernel 2.6.22-3 there's no kino access to it) and can't use them under lenny, would it be better in sid or just I have to ba patient ? |
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| 04:21.14 | bucky | guillaume, that install cd for debian on dell is known to work on Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy RX200 |
| 04:21.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder: and you could perhaps just clone off of another disk? Using my previous disk that I had cloned from worked so much better than the rescue mode of the debian install CD the last time, also |
| 04:21.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok, nite |
| 04:22.01 | bucky | how similar are those? got any cd's laying around? burn a lenny net install cd and try it |
| 04:22.15 | guillaume | bucky: I'll agree the bying order and hope that I can figure it out otherwise they'll kill me :) |
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| 04:24.02 | bucky | if the lenny don't work go for the debian on dell |
| 04:24.57 | guillaume | bucky: yes I kept all the infos preciously |
| 04:25.36 | ohok | mount --bind /home/httpd/ /var/www/mount --bind /home/httpd/ /var/www/ |
| 04:25.37 | ohok | mount --bind /home/httpd/ /var/www/ |
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| 04:26.09 | sparr_ | what software can i use to make a copy of a DVD that can be played in a normal hardware DVD player? |
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| 04:26.18 | ohok | sorry bot that |
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| 04:28.26 | cast | sparr_: thats breaking drm...lots of people aren't allowed to do that :o |
| 04:28.39 | Claudio32m | whats the name of the daytime server that listens on port 13? i need to install it with apt-get |
| 04:29.32 | mbroeker | sparr_, give k9copy a try( kde app) |
| 04:30.03 | liable | or dvdbackup and growisofs |
| 04:30.13 | liable | even k3b does dvdbackups i think now |
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| 04:32.16 | rcbarnes | Is there a way to see what's using a module? |
| 04:33.08 | pseubodo1 | 2 |
| 04:35.29 | rcbarnes | I have a module that's been crashing my system. I know it's in the state that will crash it soon. What kind of forensic data can I get from it now? |
| 04:35.33 | rcbarnes | It's a sound card driver that sometimes kills a program using sound, and then next time it's accessed the system freezes. |
| 04:35.47 | rcbarnes | Specifically, it's snd-usb-caiaq. |
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| 04:38.37 | infinity_ | is there a k7 coming for 2.6.23 ? |
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| 04:41.26 | Azar | the day when a newer kernel stops or prevents an OS to work on a older PC, well... hmmm that day I can say that the Kernel/OS is f**ed over |
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| 04:41.53 | mikes1 | many Debian mirrors are not working here |
| 04:41.55 | mikes1 | ? |
| 04:41.58 | infinity_ | Azar: is that an answer to my Q? |
| 04:42.04 | Azar | mikes1: example |
| 04:42.11 | infinity_ | i'm looking for linux-image-2.6.23-1-k7 |
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| 04:42.20 | Azar | infinity_: no, is not an answer is a pensee.. a thought |
| 04:42.31 | mikes1 | http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
| 04:42.37 | mikes1 | Azar, ^^ |
| 04:42.49 | Azar | infinity_: apt-cache search if is in the repo of your Debian version |
| 04:43.08 | Azar | apt-cache search linux-image see what you got |
| 04:43.18 | mikes1 | I want Debian 4.0r1 kde |
| 04:43.32 | infinity_ | Azar: its not on debian's website either |
| 04:43.33 | mikes1 | or lenny kde |
| 04:43.38 | Azar | mikes1: oh I thought you were saying "source" |
| 04:44.41 | Azar | mikes1: so how that does not work? |
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| 04:44.55 | infinity_ | changelog : [i386] Drop k7 images. |
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| 04:45.12 | mikes1 | Azar, Must be just here in NZ ? |
| 04:45.20 | infinity_ | so hmmm ...should i use 486 or 686 images |
| 04:45.33 | Azar | infinity_: oh when you try to install, get a i386... the kernel arch will be detected |
| 04:46.02 | Azar | k7 is for 32bits, i386 |
| 04:46.07 | mikes1 | Azar, http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable ,,does not connect |
| 04:46.36 | infinity_ | linux-image-2.6.23-1-386 doesn't exist |
| 04:46.50 | Azar | infinity_: you mean this one: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/iso-cd/ ? |
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| 04:47.17 | infinity_ | i'm upgrading my kernel |
| 04:47.18 | Azar | infinity_: that means, that your Debian version does not have it in its repos |
| 04:47.18 | infinity_ | not installing |
| 04:47.48 | Azar | infinity_: well hmm sorry I never was able to burn a CD from the website |
| 04:47.54 | cast | just install linux-image-2.6 :P |
| 04:48.01 | Azar | I understand it will NOT install, but copy it and burn it to a CD |
| 04:48.52 | Azar | mikes1: if you are NOT happy with your current running kernel: hardware problems, then you might want to get a higher kernel : 2.6.23 from backports |
| 04:48.55 | Azar | !backports |
| 04:48.56 | dpkg | somebody said backport was a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, or <backports.org> |
| 04:49.18 | mikes1 | Azar, Etch is fine |
| 04:49.31 | mikes1 | I just wanted to have a play with lenny |
| 04:49.45 | Azar | mikes1: yea, if yours is running OK, don't just upgrade because looks "newer" |
| 04:49.52 | mikes1 | Have to install etch and change sources |
| 04:50.00 | mikes1 | true |
| 04:50.28 | Azar | mikes1: you could dedicate a partition for lenny and have Etch running fine on a separate partition |
| 04:50.42 | infinity_ | i don't think 2.6.23 is in backports |
| 04:50.45 | mikes1 | Yes doing that :) |
| 04:51.00 | Azar | sid backports |
| 04:51.05 | Azar | !sid backports |
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| 04:51.14 | infinity_ | where can you search backports |
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| 04:51.24 | mikes1 | infinity_, try "testing" |
| 04:51.32 | infinity_ | testing isn't backports |
| 04:51.33 | Azar | !simple sid backports |
| 04:51.33 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
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| 04:52.20 | Azar | infinity_: read the links dpkg posted on the first reply |
| 04:52.59 | infinity_ | yes. i usually end up manually backporting like dpkg says |
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| 04:53.41 | Azar | infinity_: why do you need a 2.6.23? |
| 04:53.50 | infinity_ | cuz 2.6.22 is freaking out :) |
| 04:53.54 | Azar | I run fine on 2.6.8 |
| 04:53.56 | infinity_ | or so i tihnk it is |
| 04:53.58 | Azar | :P |
| 04:54.06 | infinity_ | yea right. |
| 04:54.16 | infinity_ | running 2.6.8 unpatched is suicide |
| 04:54.25 | Azar | it runs since last year and never broke down |
| 04:54.37 | infinity_ | wow. yer crazy |
| 04:54.39 | Azar | well, it is patched |
| 04:54.50 | infinity_ | oh ..well, not so crazy |
| 04:54.51 | Azar | I get my regular security upgrades every week |
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| 04:55.28 | infinity_ | i've seen many notices ... 'dont use xyz if running 2.6.9 or newer' |
| 04:55.36 | cast | 2.6.8 in debian is fine |
| 04:55.57 | cast | oh....18 |
| 04:55.59 | cast | my bad :) |
| 04:56.03 | Azar | I am not worried: 1. I don't run e-mail on the box. 2. I don't play flash, use pdf, javascripts, activescripts and activeX. I only use plain text on my browser. 3. I don't run a server: no ssh |
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| 04:56.52 | AciD | I have a totally unrelated question about english language : what does "but spendy" means for shipping price ? :/ |
| 04:56.55 | infinity_ | Azar: basically half the kernel is bored :) |
| 04:57.10 | infinity_ | AciD: no idea |
| 04:57.11 | Azar | spendy like expensive |
| 04:57.37 | Azar | the guy did not know english either and thought "spendy" sez it all |
| 04:57.40 | AciD | dunno, it seems so but i'm not a native english speacker.. |
| 04:57.55 | infinity_ | Azar: dont u want to try CFS in 2.6.23 ?? :) |
| 04:58.04 | AciD | I google the expression and it seems to be quite used |
| 04:58.05 | Azar | speedy: fast, spendy: more likely expensive |
| 04:58.11 | infinity_ | AciD: yer english seems fine |
| 04:58.11 | AciD | but still can't get the meaning |
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| 04:58.35 | Azar | maybe is a new net lingo: spendy |
| 04:58.50 | AciD | it seems, but not enough to get all the meaning with some weird-not-often-used expressions |
| 04:58.52 | AciD | :) |
| 04:59.02 | infinity_ | anyone use virtualbox with 2.6.23 ? |
| 04:59.13 | mikes1 | In sidux |
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| 04:59.31 | Azar | lots of dialectical influences: irish, scotish, aussie, british, american, spanglish |
| 05:00.51 | AciD | what's odd is that "but spendy" is the only option which seems to cost no money : http://pastebin.com/m45963cfd |
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| 05:02.15 | infinity_ | sounds like their website has issues. that odesn't make much sense to me |
| 05:02.56 | AciD | to me neither |
| 05:03.21 | zythmer | instead of but spendy, they probably meant but pricey. That's a common saying. |
| 05:03.28 | Azar | AciD: you did not got the picture (get out of the view mode) and you will read this: USPS Global Express Guaranteed ($86.50)- Fast but spendy |
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| 05:04.08 | Azar | ...or read the text ignoring the tags around them |
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| 05:04.11 | AciD | ah yes, their combobox is b0rked |
| 05:04.14 | AciD | thx |
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| 05:04.39 | AciD | shipping price is a b*tch |
| 05:04.57 | AciD | hopefully ¤ owns $ latetly :) |
| 05:04.59 | infinity_ | brb. rebooting into 2.6.23 ... |
| 05:05.28 | cast | argh @ not being able to select text in w3m/aterm |
| 05:07.00 | dalias | i heard "dotted box" owns all other currency |
| 05:07.20 | dalias | so does "inverted question mark" |
| 05:07.48 | dalias | hmm... yahoo mail users must be getting rich with their nonexistant charset handling =) |
| 05:07.54 | simonrvn | cast: hold shift down then select |
| 05:08.30 | simonrvn | that'll work in other things too |
| 05:08.40 | cast | cool :), is that a general *term thing then? |
| 05:08.44 | simonrvn | mc comes to mind... |
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| 05:09.42 | simonrvn | uh, yeh, terminal, ncurses |
| 05:09.42 | simonrvn | stuff like that |
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| 05:29.20 | Azar | Seagate's latest drives don't seem to work with Linux |
| 05:29.35 | cast | they're sata? |
| 05:29.55 | Azar | don't know, but read here: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/12/06/seagate-snubs-linux |
| 05:30.13 | Azar | comes to mind: don't buy Seagate .. or don't buy .. new drives |
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| 05:30.46 | technomancy | hey, i'm thinking about getting a thinkpad... anyone know which wifi chipset is best? |
| 05:30.53 | cast | i been liking samsung recently, seem to be quite a bit cheaper |
| 05:30.59 | ddalton | ok can someone help me get exim going? |
| 05:31.13 | cast | ddalton: sure, install exim4-config |
| 05:31.14 | technomancy | options are intel 4965AGN, intel 3945ABG, and "thinkpad 11/b/g" |
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| 05:31.34 | ddalton | its installed and I guess I should run |
| 05:31.41 | ddalton | sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 05:31.50 | Azar | cast: I still stay with my old ide ones: a brand new PC bought last year has sata, has windows pre-installed, never got the chance to grab an Etch and test it |
| 05:32.00 | technomancy | thinkwiki seems to tell me that the 4965AGN is not so hot |
| 05:32.03 | Azar | ...sits under my desk unused yet |
| 05:32.31 | cast | oh, its seagate USB2 drives |
| 05:32.49 | dondelelcaro | yeah, which basically means that the seagate usb2 enclosure is garbage. |
| 05:33.07 | Azar | :) brilliantly put, dondelecaro |
| 05:33.08 | ddalton | should I run |
| 05:33.09 | ddalton | sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
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| 05:33.26 | cast | ddalton: this is debian right... |
| 05:33.36 | dondelelcaro | so, as it typical of inquirer stories, modicum of fact, coating of fiction, aura of trollability. |
| 05:33.41 | ddalton | yes? |
| 05:33.48 | ddalton | i am on debian |
| 05:33.58 | cast | just checking. ;P |
| 05:33.59 | Azar | dondelelcaro: not so virulent though as /. is |
| 05:34.03 | cast | so yes, you would do that. |
| 05:34.51 | ddalton | split configuration into separate files? |
| 05:34.54 | ddalton | yes/no |
| 05:35.31 | Azar | dondelelcaro: was reading debian news earlier, an individual moved from buntu to Debian was not pleased about his kde behavior, blaming it on Debian and announcing he is moving back to Kunbutu.... that yes, a juicy trolltopic |
| 05:35.59 | Azar | oh, yes and he did got trolled over his story |
| 05:37.13 | ddalton | do i choseo |
| 05:37.14 | ddalton | no |
| 05:37.15 | ddalton | ? |
| 05:38.19 | technomancy | any wifi advice? looks like the 3945ABG is well supported, though it requires a proprietary blob |
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| 05:38.39 | ddalton | is someone going to help me? |
| 05:39.28 | kelsin | ddalton: the splitting or not is your choice. If you're going to be heavily editing the file then maybe yes, if not just leave it as one big file, might be easy, but it works either way |
| 05:39.49 | Azar | technomancy: use search here: http://hardware4linux.info/search/ |
| 05:40.00 | technomancy | Azar: thanks; will check that out. |
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| 05:40.23 | cast | ddalton: ...personally it makes no difference to me. if you can't work out that decision then i wonder if you're just going to turn into a spam relay :| |
| 05:40.25 | Element14 | j #haskell |
| 05:40.32 | Element14 | whoops |
| 05:41.27 | ddalton | what do I choose about the smart host stuff? |
| 05:41.47 | ddalton | i am using exim4 to send mail and fetchmail to recieve. |
| 05:41.55 | ddalton | exim should send through an smtp server |
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| 05:42.39 | kelsin | ddalton: you also might want to look at one of the many small sendmail clients ment only to sent mail to smtp servers |
| 05:42.59 | sparr_ | thanks mbroeker and liable |
| 05:43.06 | ddalton | so what should I do? |
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| 05:46.16 | ddalton | should i be using exim? |
| 05:46.19 | ddalton | for this? |
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| 05:50.18 | kelsin | ddalton: exim does a lot more then what you're going to be using it for, I suggest either reading the documentation so you know what to put in those options or look for a lighter smtp client |
| 05:50.21 | Azar | CompUSA no more after Jan 08 |
| 05:50.36 | ddalton | what about sendmail? |
| 05:51.09 | mbroeker | ddalton, i hate the m4 language used for configuring it. |
| 05:51.23 | ddalton | ok so what else is there? |
| 05:51.31 | cast | ddalton: Exchange |
| 05:51.53 | Azar | hard to install/configure |
| 05:52.13 | ddalton | ok well. what one should i use for sending with alpine? |
| 05:52.20 | ddalton | I already have fetchmail working. |
| 05:52.33 | kelsin | ddalton: mstmp, ssmtp, esmtp I think, there's a whole bunch |
| 05:52.51 | ddalton | what one could you help me with? |
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| 05:53.19 | kelsin | ddalton: they all have really simple man pages, so none |
| 05:53.27 | abchirk | hi all |
| 05:54.22 | xerophyte | i am thinking of good dns which will have around 50000 zone files .. does anybody have good suggestion other than bind .. bind takes longer to load the zone files at start ? |
| 05:57.01 | bucky | xerophyte, the newer version of maradns in lenny is supposed to work pretty well |
| 05:57.18 | ddalton | ok so how do I set up |
| 05:57.20 | ddalton | ssmtp |
| 05:57.30 | ddalton | is there a conf file like fetchmail? |
| 05:57.30 | bucky | xerophyte, http://tinyurl.com/3bweeb |
| 05:58.35 | Azar | ddalton: http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/en_US.UTF-8/ch07.html#id389505 might help to study this a bit |
| 05:59.08 | Azar | hi abchirk :) |
| 05:59.17 | abchirk | :) |
| 06:00.38 | utopia_ | are there any security issues with openssh-4.7p? |
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| 06:03.35 | bucky | utopia_, who knows.. it was just released |
| 06:03.36 | troubled | utopia_: if their were, it would be 4.8 :) |
| 06:04.33 | bucky | you should ask theo de raadt he'd know |
| 06:06.46 | infinity_ | anyone have a fun time with promise controllers? these things have been buggy since after 2.6.18 |
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| 06:33.44 | mephux | hey everyone.. how can i update a package installed with apt-get... but just the package in question |
| 06:34.19 | infinity_ | mephux: apt-get install <package> |
| 06:34.21 | infinity_ | i think should do it |
| 06:35.01 | mephux | ok so if i just install like normal it will know the package is already installed and just update it? should i worrie about the config file I have already in place? |
| 06:35.18 | bytekode | if it can't update the config file without breaking it, it'll prompt you |
| 06:35.24 | wols_ | mephux: if it'S already installed it win't reinstall it. |
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| 06:35.38 | mephux | ok.. on a side note.. anyone in here use snort? |
| 06:35.49 | wols_ | !anyone use snort |
| 06:35.49 | dpkg | No, no one uses snort, not even the people who use it. |
| 06:36.53 | dell_lin | how do i check which cards are support with ndiswrapper |
| 06:36.55 | mephux | well thats my issue. my boss wants me to update this snort box thats reporting to MARS and the person before me installed snort using apt-get instead of installing from source.. |
| 06:37.09 | bytekode | you say that like it's a bad thing :-) |
| 06:37.13 | mephux | i have never used apt-get untill today.. i liek source.. to old for apt-get |
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| 06:38.34 | mephux | wols_: if i use apt-get install snort-mysql .. will it keep the original snort.debian.conf file already inplace? |
| 06:38.41 | mephux | sorry in advance for being annyoing |
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| 06:39.48 | bytekode | why not just backup your configs |
| 06:39.56 | mephux | i have.. |
| 06:40.03 | bytekode | then why so worried? :o |
| 06:40.11 | mephux | just can't have this box go down for more then an hour |
| 06:40.21 | bytekode | gotcha |
| 06:40.34 | bytekode | so in the event of a power failure and your backups not kicking on, you'd be screwed? |
| 06:41.08 | mephux | this customer pays 25,000 a month for our IDS system and Cisco MARS setup.. so yes.. |
| 06:41.11 | mephux | big time |
| 06:41.28 | bytekode | might want a bit more redundancy in the future then :P |
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| 06:41.58 | bytekode | besides, what's preventing you from doing a source update of snort? |
| 06:41.59 | mephux | lol |
| 06:42.23 | bytekode | just the configs possibly not lining up? |
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| 06:42.49 | mephux | well he have config files setup for en0-3 and its using some crazy debian.conf file.. never seen it before.. if i install from source i will ahve to rewrite the whole script |
| 06:42.57 | wols_ | he has a customer paying 25000USD per month and doesn't know the basics of sysadminning? this customer is getting screwed |
| 06:43.07 | mephux | lol |
| 06:43.08 | bytekode | ahh i see |
| 06:43.26 | bytekode | well, good luck with that one... just make backups before you do anything |
| 06:43.46 | mephux | wols_: im not a system admin.. im a |
| 06:43.50 | hoxu | mephux, um, upgrading critical systems in place/online may not be a very good idea :p |
| 06:43.55 | mephux | network security specialist.. |
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| 06:44.10 | bytekode | hoxu: that's why i asked about redundancy :/ |
| 06:44.12 | wols_ | we already established that you aren't, as I said: a fraudster |
| 06:44.22 | mephux | ok |
| 06:44.51 | mephux | wow big help guys.. are you guys done..? |
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| 06:44.55 | mephux | can we move on now |
| 06:45.33 | troubled | wols_: always gotta start with the old history stuff. evening :) |
| 06:45.42 | hoxu | mephux, so, is there a security problem why you need to upgrade? |
| 06:46.16 | mephux | well there are two sensors.. one running snort 2.6.1 and the other is running snort 2.3.3 |
| 06:46.28 | mephux | the customer just wants both to be at 2.6.1 which is f'ing stupid.. |
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| 06:46.36 | mephux | all you have to do is update the rule files.. |
| 06:46.40 | mephux | they dont care tho |
| 06:47.11 | troubled | mephux: whats wrong with uniform versioning on the network? |
| 06:47.40 | hoxu | troubled, a well paying customer demanding it |
| 06:47.52 | mephux | indeed |
| 06:48.02 | troubled | hey, if they pay for it, why ask questions? :) |
| 06:48.26 | mephux | no questions asked.. |
| 06:48.42 | mephux | just dont want to have this sensor offline.. |
| 06:49.25 | mephux | hold on brb dge went offline |
| 06:50.38 | mephux | ok back.. |
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| 06:51.17 | mephux | so.. apt-get install snort-mysql will not work unless i remove the previous version? |
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| 06:51.47 | wols_ | !tell mephux about grounding |
| 06:52.00 | mephux | tell me |
| 06:52.04 | mephux | ;) |
| 06:52.08 | bytekode | the bot is supposed to tell you |
| 06:52.26 | wols_ | bytekode: it already did. he's just too dense to understand it |
| 06:52.27 | troubled | hoxu: http://pastebin.ca/raw/809102 :) |
| 06:52.33 | mephux | alright fuck this.. backing up uninstalling this shitty apt-get package and going with source.. |
| 06:52.47 | mephux | thanks for your time guys.. bye |
| 06:52.51 | bytekode | good luck |
| 06:52.52 | wols_ | !info snort etch |
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| 06:53.47 | Nyle | hi |
| 06:53.51 | dpkg | snort: (Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System), section net, is optional. Version: 2.3.3-11 (etch), Packaged size: 348 kB, Installed size: 828 kB |
| 06:53.53 | bytekode | hey |
| 06:54.03 | troubled | heya |
| 06:54.09 | wols_ | wonder why one of his machines has snort 2.6.1... |
| 06:54.30 | Nyle | Atheist |
| 06:54.44 | Nyle | oops wrong tab |
| 06:54.59 | Nyle | hey guys whas goin on this friday evening |
| 06:55.05 | Nyle | or sat morning |
| 06:55.09 | bytekode | beer + preparing for a nightmarish weekend |
| 06:55.12 | bytekode | you? |
| 06:55.21 | wols_ | Nyle: we brace ourselves for impending sunday |
| 06:55.26 | troubled | heh |
| 06:55.28 | Nyle | wols_: ahh yes |
| 06:55.36 | Nyle | the sundays |
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| 06:56.38 | Nyle | bytekode: just chillin |
| 06:56.42 | Nyle | kinda drunk, mostly high |
| 06:56.45 | bytekode | nice |
| 06:56.56 | Nyle | and really horny |
| 06:57.02 | Nyle | oooh got ya! |
| 06:57.05 | Nyle | j/k |
| 06:57.13 | wols_ | Nyle: so a perfectly normal day in Nyle-land? |
| 06:57.21 | Nyle | (me thought of principal anderson from billy madison) |
| 06:57.23 | troubled | no doubts there :) |
| 06:57.34 | Nyle | wols_: o yea |
| 06:57.34 | Nyle | :D |
| 06:58.04 | troubled | Nyle: but boy was Mrs. Von hot :) |
| 06:58.17 | troubled | or however you spell it |
| 06:58.44 | Nyle | mrs? |
| 06:58.46 | screenn | I use debmirror and jigdo-lite for creation my debian dvd's. Programs give out messages: http://rafb.net/p/wXImbT83.html |
| 06:58.47 | screenn | http://rafb.net/p/M2nChG43.html |
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| 06:58.54 | troubled | Nyle: Miss? |
| 06:58.55 | Nyle | dude she was like not even 28 |
| 06:59.01 | Nyle | yeh, miss vaughn |
| 06:59.08 | Nyle | its a common white name |
| 06:59.20 | troubled | never heard of it irl |
| 06:59.31 | Nyle | i hear it a lot down south |
| 07:00.27 | Nyle | did you see Kramer from Seinfeld go off on a racist rant on stage? |
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| 07:00.43 | troubled | dont think so |
| 07:00.45 | minus198 | Why isn't Opera Browser affected by the GTK theme? |
| 07:01.13 | hoxu | minus198, it uses qt? |
| 07:01.20 | minus198 | Ok.. |
| 07:02.54 | peterS | there's the 'gtk-qt-engine' package to use Qt themes in GTK, not that I've tried it, but the reverse does not seem to exist |
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| 07:05.56 | minus198 | peterS, :/ |
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| 07:12.45 | liable | any tools to edit pci-id of a card connected to the usb bus? |
| 07:13.08 | liable | its mini-pcie, but it goes through the usb controller |
| 07:14.11 | liable | ethtool does ethernet cards, doesnt see this thing though |
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| 07:20.43 | LimCore | how to kick the hell out package XYZ, but ignoring deps, that is not removing apps dependant on it |
| 07:21.15 | cast | maybe try equivs |
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| 07:28.49 | rdz | hi all. where do i need to put this line ' mknod -m 666 /dev/fuse c 10 229', so that the device gets created while booting? |
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| 07:29.28 | cast | /etc/rc.local might do |
| 07:30.13 | dalias | doesn't udevd save custom devices or something? |
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| 07:33.35 | mbroeker | rdz, i have just modprobed fuse and the device appears correctly |
| 07:33.40 | rdz | dalias, what does that mean? that udev saves the manually created devices to recreate them on next boot? |
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| 07:33.49 | dalias | i thought it did |
| 07:33.58 | dalias | but i've never tried it |
| 07:34.13 | rdz | mbroeker, i didn't modprobe anything manually, i just installed sshfs |
| 07:34.49 | Cusoon959 | How do I just do a "start wget" e.g. if I have a list of three things in a script, I need to start them all at once |
| 07:34.59 | Cusoon959 | not one after another when each one is finished |
| 07:35.40 | mbroeker | Cusoon959, wget http://server.com/file1 & |
| 07:35.48 | liable | doesnt it have a concurrent switch? |
| 07:36.05 | Cusoon959 | right...duh >.< |
| 07:36.09 | Cusoon959 | thanks mbroeker :) |
| 07:36.30 | bullgard4 | What is the filename of [GNOME > Places > ] Recent Documents? |
| 07:37.47 | mbroeker | Cusoon959, maybe supress output like wget ... &> /dev/null |
| 07:38.23 | Cusoon959 | I had it like this... wget file > /dev/null & |
| 07:38.28 | Cusoon959 | how should it be written? |
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| 07:38.47 | mbroeker | Cusoon959, maybe supress output like wget file &> /dev/null & |
| 07:38.55 | Cusoon959 | ok |
| 07:39.43 | mbroeker | that command redirects stdout AND stderr to dev/null |
| 07:39.50 | Cusoon959 | cool |
| 07:40.07 | dalias | bad bad bad |
| 07:40.13 | dalias | >/dev/null 2>&1 |
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| 07:40.40 | dalias | &> is ugly and iirc conflicts with correct sh syntax |
| 07:40.41 | aptitude | ...but > is already something else... |
| 07:40.53 | mbroeker | thank you grilled-cheese: i am hungry now. gg |
| 07:41.00 | grilled-cheese | lol |
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| 07:44.36 | erikja | does cvs overwrite existing files ? |
| 07:44.52 | dalias | ? |
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| 07:45.24 | erikja | if I do an update with cvs |
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| 07:46.31 | cast | is #cvs a channel |
| 07:47.12 | dalias | erikja, it will merge changes in files under version-control, and will not overwrite files with conflicting names that were not already under version control, iirc |
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| 07:59.18 | erikja | dalias, thank you so much |
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| 08:06.51 | mbroeker | i used cvs regularly and noticed svn. used that and noticed git... |
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| 08:07.19 | nocti | on a ymi can do yahoo chat |
| 08:07.24 | nocti | oops sorry |
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| 08:32.07 | liable | xingu: any idea of apps that could alter the product id in the eeprom of a card connected through usbserial? |
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| 08:33.12 | xingu | liable: it'd be vendor specific, if at all possible |
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| 08:33.29 | xingu | liable: more likely that the peripheral has a jtag interface as well as usb |
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| 08:34.14 | dutchfish | hi, use signed mail in evolution, how (if it is possible) reject all mail with exim4 or postfix with doesnt contain a valid signature? |
| 08:34.16 | liable | xingu: its a mini-pcie hdspa card that uses usbserial |
| 08:34.53 | liable | xingu: trying to upgrade mine and get around intels stupid fucking bios whitelist |
| 08:36.21 | xingu | liable: whitelist for _usb_ peripherals? (and yes, pcie spec provides for/ mandates a usb2 interface as part of the host interface connector spec - eases transition for peripheral designers, in theory) |
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| 08:36.49 | xingu | liable: I can see minipci, that stunt's been pulled many times over; but usb surprises me I must say |
| 08:37.09 | liable | xingu: its a built in mini-pcie and yes the bios does check its id's linux talks to it through usbserial |
| 08:37.34 | xingu | mini-pci-e? :) woah, that's a new one on me :) |
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| 08:38.11 | liable | really? your 3945 card is prolly mini-pcie |
| 08:38.16 | xingu | liable: I think you're screwed if it's not expresscard; it'll need to be fixed at the bios end, or _maybe_, via jtag on the peripheral are my semi-educated guesses |
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| 08:39.09 | xingu | liable: curious, right you are. |
| 08:39.33 | xingu | liable: never really stopped to think about it :) |
| 08:39.42 | liable | heh |
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| 08:40.05 | liable | xingu: do lenovo do bios whitelisting? |
| 08:40.24 | liable | its pissing me off enough not to ever by another thinkpad |
| 08:40.25 | xingu | liable: wikipedia says it also supports smbus |
| 08:40.41 | xingu | liable: mini-pcie form factor, that is; in addition to usb2 |
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| 08:40.58 | xingu | liable: so just maybe there's an i2c eeprom listening on the end of it |
| 08:41.13 | liable | if its i2c it should be doable |
| 08:41.25 | liable | i read somewhere today about that |
| 08:42.18 | xingu | have you seen any aftermarket 4965's just out of interest? |
| 08:42.26 | xingu | in your travels that is |
| 08:43.06 | liable | unless you can fit the third aerial, its a moot point |
| 08:43.29 | liable | dunno how well it would work without the third |
| 08:43.41 | xingu | bah, a paperclip should do it :) |
| 08:44.07 | liable | ibm spares is prolly a good place to look, i havent seen em in my travels |
| 08:44.10 | liable | hah :) |
| 08:44.31 | liable | i was thinking about one myself, but once again the fucking bios wouldnt let me anyway |
| 08:44.32 | xingu | google tells me that acer's santa rosa stuff is probably whitelist-free |
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| 08:45.00 | liable | i thought you had a lenovo? |
| 08:45.19 | xingu | nope; mine's a uniwill p54in |
| 08:45.59 | liable | whats a uniwill? |
| 08:46.04 | dutchfish | hi, use signed mail in evolution, how (if it is possible) reject all mail with exim4 or postfix wich doesnt contain a valid signature? are there any filter option in these MTA's? |
| 08:46.05 | xingu | whitelist-free - for wlan, not sure about usb gsm/hdspa |
| 08:46.20 | xingu | liable: odm/whitebook designer |
| 08:46.40 | xingu | think clevo |
| 08:46.49 | liable | usb gsm is whitelisted, just the inbuilt somehow is blacklisted, though its connected through the usb host controller |
| 08:46.58 | liable | xingu: nice products? |
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| 08:47.49 | xingu | liable: awesome in the £/! dept |
| 08:48.00 | liable | eh? |
| 08:48.04 | xingu | liable: it's a year old though, so the santa rosa stuff eclipses it at the same pricepoints now |
| 08:48.51 | xingu | liable: was the cheapest domestic system with the spec; t7200/go7600/2GB/1680x1050@15.4" |
| 08:49.06 | liable | is build quality good? |
| 08:50.00 | xingu | liable: has been so far; usual upstream driver issues on the gpu, but they're pretty much ironed out now |
| 08:50.18 | liable | dont get me started on gpu drivers.. ;) |
| 08:50.40 | xingu | liable: tricky to keep racehorses like these things cool, naturally; hard surface underneath it is required |
| 08:50.47 | liable | ya |
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| 08:50.50 | PDani | hi |
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| 08:51.17 | PDani | i installed unstable linphone on testing, and when i tried to start it, i got this: linphone: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/liblinphone.so.2: undefined symbol: payload_type_x_snow |
| 08:51.28 | xingu | liable: heat's not too bad, no thermal shutdowns or ABEND/restarts |
| 08:51.41 | xingu | liable: but it does get cozy warm, no denying it |
| 08:51.46 | dalias | sounds like you also need the corresponding unstable libs |
| 08:51.54 | liable | mine aint to bad actually, heat wise |
| 08:51.54 | xingu | liable: but then again so does my work nc6xxx |
| 08:52.13 | PDani | dalias: what libs? |
| 08:52.25 | dalias | in this case, liblinphone |
| 08:52.29 | dalias | as the error message said |
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| 08:52.45 | xingu | liable: the 45nm designs with 65nm gpu's should run _much_ cooler and bring a little sanity back |
| 08:52.59 | xingu | liable: another 2y I'll probably scrap this guy and go buy one for that reason alone |
| 08:53.02 | liable | damn, i can get a cheap tri band hspda card on ebay, but the thing will most likely not work |
| 08:53.14 | xingu | liable: do you have expresscard? |
| 08:53.55 | liable | xingu: ya, but damned if i am going to use an expresscard when the laptop has built in gsm capabilities |
| 08:54.12 | xingu | heh |
| 08:54.33 | PDani | dalias: i installed liblinphone2 and liblinphone1 from unstable, the error is the same |
| 08:54.44 | liable | screw IBM, going to find a workaround for this |
| 08:54.48 | xingu | liable: just repatch the usb peripheral interface to the expresscard usb controller :) |
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| 08:55.06 | liable | eek :) |
| 08:55.08 | xingu | liable: few fly leads and a little soldering never hurt anyone |
| 08:55.27 | liable | xingu: you should see my hands shake :) |
| 08:55.56 | wols_ | xingu: maybe it never hurty anyone but it hurt a lot of hardware :P |
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| 08:56.03 | liable | ooh, actually, its beer o clock |
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| 08:56.45 | xingu | wols_: elder brother used to make me be his clamp for his projects when we were growing up |
| 08:56.48 | liable | i got a bit pissed last night too |
| 08:56.53 | liable | heh |
| 08:56.59 | xingu | wols_: plenty hurting going on there |
| 08:57.02 | liable | gotta love big brotherds |
| 08:57.19 | xingu | now that's something you don't see every day |
| 08:57.22 | wols_ | xingu: hardware or xingu's fingers? |
| 08:57.35 | liable | hrm, 200US for this card on ebay |
| 08:57.39 | xingu | there's a field generator zipping past my window dangling off a crane |
| 08:57.43 | liable | not bad with the exchange rate atm |
| 08:57.45 | xingu | gone now |
| 08:58.06 | xingu | field, as in a few 10,000VAC diesel powered. |
| 08:58.22 | liable | thats quite a large genset |
| 08:58.28 | xingu | yes |
| 08:58.43 | xingu | thank god the crane driver knows what he's about eh? |
| 08:58.49 | wols_ | what does VAC actually mean? I can see waht VA would mean, but why VAC? |
| 08:59.00 | xingu | there's a pretty stiff breeze up too, you can see the slack in the safety cable is all bowed |
| 08:59.08 | dalias | VAC is probably volts ac |
| 08:59.08 | dutchfish | watt * cos phi |
| 08:59.24 | xingu | it was about half the size of my own apartment |
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| 08:59.49 | Haris | Hello people |
| 09:00.18 | liable | hrm, the mc8775 only has one product id in sierra.c, and some models of t60p came with this card, wonder if the sucker will work |
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| 09:01.06 | Haris | WHat's that package that comes with debian tht tests smtp/mail servers? |
| 09:01.09 | Haris | that+ |
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| 09:01.42 | wols_ | dalias: makes no sense that |
| 09:01.44 | dondelelcaro | Haris: what, telnet? nc? |
| 09:02.03 | wols_ | that diesel generator might hand out 10000 watts but certainly not 10000 volts |
| 09:02.19 | wols_ | dutchfish: phi? |
| 09:02.35 | dondelelcaro | well, there's nothign stoping it from handing out that many volts |
| 09:02.48 | dutchfish | vac = voltage * amperes (current) = volt * cos phi (for inductive loads) |
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| 09:03.13 | dalias | wols_, yeah i was not paying any attention to context |
| 09:03.23 | dutchfish | phi the greek letter wich i cant make on chat |
| 09:03.31 | dalias | but the correct abbrev. for that is VA, not VAC |
| 09:03.33 | dalias | iirc |
| 09:03.44 | Haris | dondelelcaro: No, a package, that comes with debian that auto-tests mail servers |
| 09:03.51 | wols_ | dutchfish: and what does that phi do? what does it stand for? |
| 09:03.58 | dalias | and volt * cos phi is obviously not correct |
| 09:04.07 | dutchfish | dalias hold on i google it up |
| 09:04.07 | cast | dalias: your units...yeah dont work. |
| 09:04.12 | Haris | automates+ testing mail servers |
| 09:04.20 | wols_ | dondelelcaro: while it could hand out 10kV it wouldn't make much sense |
| 09:04.21 | dondelelcaro | Haris: testing of them for what? |
| 09:04.24 | cast | dutchfish even |
| 09:04.38 | dalias | rather i would think watts and VA are related by a factor of cos phi |
| 09:04.38 | dondelelcaro | wols_: depends what you're doing with them |
| 09:04.39 | liable | wols_: does if you want to weld :) |
| 09:05.03 | cast | IIRC phi is the angle difference between the current and voltage, and cos phi is the power factor |
| 09:05.07 | dutchfish | dalias, phi = the angle in this: http://fujicap.com/power.htm |
| 09:06.34 | cast | voltage * amperes (current) = volt * cos phi is obviously wrong, since A: units don't balance out, B: cos(phi) != current |
| 09:06.40 | dalias | i would use the word phase not angle |
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| 09:07.12 | cast | yes, thats a better word :) i i find electrickery confusing |
| 09:07.36 | dondelelcaro | dalias: it's the same thing |
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| 09:08.14 | dondelelcaro | (phase really refers to the offset) |
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| 09:08.55 | dondelelcaro | err, not exactly the same thing, of course. |
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| 09:09.57 | dutchfish | dondelelcaro, please explain me how to calculate load (as watt) for inductive loads? |
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| 09:10.10 | Haris | dondelelcaro: incomming/outgoing mail, open relay, bla bla, the list is long but specific |
| 09:10.37 | Haris | dammit, I hate! to forget things :| |
| 09:10.49 | dutchfish | hi, use signed mail in evolution, how (if it is possible) reject all mail with exim4 or postfix wich doesnt contain a valid signature? are there any filter option in these MTA's? |
| 09:11.02 | dondelelcaro | dutchfish: I'd have to look; not something I've done recently. |
| 09:11.20 | dondelelcaro | dutchfish: the easiest thing is to just do it in procmail. |
| 09:11.39 | Haris | Correction: I hate! it when I forget things/names :| |
| 09:11.39 | dondelelcaro | dutchfish: at least, that's always how I've droped unsigned mails. |
| 09:11.40 | dutchfish | dondelelcaro, its V * A * cos(angle) |
| 09:11.51 | liable | i might bite the bullet and buy this card |
| 09:12.17 | dondelelcaro | (and more specifically, how the lists do it) |
| 09:12.46 | dutchfish | dondelelcaro, but how to check, or do i need to make my own filter for this (script)? i can imagine someone already did |
| 09:15.25 | Haris | packages: swaks and perhaps postal |
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| 09:15.41 | dondelelcaro | dutchfish: http://people.debian.org/~hertzog/cvs-debian-admin/userdir-ldap/sigcheck <-- this is what Debian uses. |
| 09:16.05 | dondelelcaro | (there probably is a more recent version than that, but I couldn't be bothered to track it down) |
| 09:16.38 | dutchfish | dondelelcaro, no neccesary, this does the job, or i can alter it, thx very much, cool! |
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| 09:19.40 | Penix | paracetamol is stupid |
| 09:19.48 | Penix | teeth are also stupid |
| 09:20.09 | liable | unless you like eating that is |
| 09:20.14 | cahoot | definitely toxic |
| 09:20.19 | Penix | what a waste of time |
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| 09:20.41 | dutchfish | penix, ibuprofen does a much better job |
| 09:20.48 | cast | take the LD10 dose...9/10 chance you'll be fine[ish] :D |
| 09:20.57 | Penix | yeah, I need something like that |
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| 09:21.45 | dutchfish | Penix, paracetamol ruins your stomach |
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| 09:21.56 | liable | forte ftw |
| 09:22.04 | liable | and kills your liver |
| 09:22.08 | Penix | your liver too after a while apparently |
| 09:22.10 | Penix | yeah |
| 09:22.36 | liable | you can eat 30 of and die 3 days later from liver failure |
| 09:22.47 | liable | and theres nothing they can do about it |
| 09:22.51 | Penix | I've been poppin' em like they're pez. washin' em down with booze too |
| 09:23.05 | dondelelcaro | 3 days from liver failure? |
| 09:23.10 | Penix | almost there |
| 09:23.47 | Penix | need to fly to the US. go on a limbaugh trip |
| 09:24.51 | dondelelcaro | liver failure starts in at about 3 days; takes a bit longer than that to die. |
| 09:24.59 | liable | dondelelcaro: the three days i made up, but yeah, it causes liver failure |
| 09:25.40 | dondelelcaro | yeah, but you have to take an amazing amount of acetominophen |
| 09:25.40 | liable | i am not going to argue with a bio grad.. ;) |
| 09:25.40 | cahoot | >15g |
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| 09:26.13 | dondelelcaro | (or take a bit with serious amounts of alchohol over a long period of time) |
| 09:26.13 | Penix | these ones are 500mg per tablet |
| 09:26.19 | liable | well, varying reports on that, wiki mentions 10, but as low as 4g a day |
| 09:26.27 | dondelelcaro | right |
| 09:26.39 | dondelelcaro | the main bit is that your liver needs time to recover |
| 09:27.04 | dondelelcaro | (it's one of the most rapidly regenerating organs around) |
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| 09:28.20 | Malawar | not to mention the only one that can heal completely after having 75% of it destroyed |
| 09:28.42 | Penix | well, if my liver packs it in, I've got some pretty sweet stuff to be looted, so it's not all bad |
| 09:28.48 | cahoot | you probably forgot bone marrow there |
| 09:28.55 | Penix | or skin |
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| 09:31.37 | dondelelcaro | bone marrow and skin are kind of odd organs (really, they're complicated enough to almost be organ systems) |
| 09:31.42 | |Virtus| | o |
| 09:32.05 | dondelelcaro | but... back on topic. ;-) |
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| 09:37.22 | Vasistha | I'm having an issue with dovecot + permissions. I've just migrated to a new computer, and dovecot is no longer able to connect to the maildirs. |
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| 09:37.56 | Vasistha | I get messages in /var/log/dovecot such as the following: dovecot: 2007-12-08 01:34:03 Error: IMAP(ab-3b): open() failed with index file /Docs/email/offlineimap/ab-3b/dovecot.index: Permission denied |
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| 09:38.47 | wols_ | Vasistha: what perms does the file have? |
| 09:38.50 | `nstuff | lol |
| 09:38.52 | Vasistha | I can plainly see that dovecot.index is owned by the user 'david' with perms 600 -- but that's what the permissions are on the other debian box, where it works fine! |
| 09:40.15 | Vasistha | wols_: ...shall I go ahead and change the file ownsership to dovecot? It's just odd that it works on the one system like this, and not the other |
| 09:40.28 | dondelelcaro | Vasistha: it should be owned by your user, with appropriate permissions. |
| 09:40.31 | wols_ | Vasistha: you shouldn't need to |
| 09:40.41 | dondelelcaro | Vasistha: dovecot will setuid to your user before it touches those files. |
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| 09:41.09 | Vasistha | dondelelcaro: well, dovecot *should* :D ... maybe it just needs a little encouragement? |
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| 09:41.22 | dondelelcaro | Vasistha: most likely ab-3b or dovecot.index has the wrong permissions. What user is accessing this? Do the UIDs match? Do the usernames match? |
| 09:41.50 | Vasistha | aww, I just bought this computer, and it's like 15 x faster than the old one ... such a pleasure. |
| 09:42.27 | dondelelcaro | Vasistha: when you're running dovecot, has it properly setuid to the right user? can you su - david; file /Docs/email/offlineimap/ab-3b/dovecot.index; ? |
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| 09:42.53 | Vasistha | dondelelcaro: ab-3b is 775; dovecot.index is 600; both are owned by david:david |
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| 09:44.12 | Vasistha | dondelelcaro: I'm not sure how to detect whether dovecot is doing a setuid to the right user ... what I did do, is ps aux | grep dove; # on both the old system and the new, and I believe everything was idential |
| 09:44.17 | Vasistha | *cal |
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| 09:47.07 | dondelelcaro | well, the best way to check is to look at the ps axfu output after logging in as the right user. |
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| 09:48.08 | Vasistha | dondelelcaro: ooh, I think I caught it! I've configured dovecot to run as user 3078, and haven't yet changed my UID on the new system to 3078. Thanks a bunch. |
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| 09:50.29 | Vasistha | god, everything is so blazing *fast* |
| 09:50.34 | Vasistha | it's so luxurious |
| 09:50.58 | SpeedyG | you just changed from vista to debian? :D |
| 09:51.32 | Vasistha | SpeedyG: no, I just changed from PII/333 MHZ w/ 192 MB, to P-M 1.8 GHz, 512 MB |
| 09:51.47 | SpeedyG | haha :D, I guess thats almost comparable ;) |
| 09:52.11 | SpeedyG | sounds like my old learning-box, tho that one had 100Mhz less ;) |
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| 09:52.34 | SpeedyG | bought a P4 2.6Ghz box for it instead, that was also quite some upgrade ;) |
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| 09:53.12 | Vasistha | SpeedyG: you don't know what "slow" is until you've run kmail with an imap connection to a locally running dovecot server, or loaded a javascript-heavy web page ... err ... or perhaps you do know :) |
| 09:54.01 | SpeedyG | haha :) I do ;) |
| 09:54.23 | SpeedyG | compare running SuSe with KDE and all its bloat on that 233Mhz was a pain :p |
| 09:54.42 | Vasistha | yeah ... you know ... that was probably worse than kde on etch! |
| 09:55.31 | SpeedyG | dunno, i've never used KDE on etch ;) |
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| 09:55.59 | SpeedyG | ever since I started trying/using X on my desktop, it has run Gnome ootb, which has been replaced asap with xfce ;) |
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| 10:09.19 | liable | hrm, where does spamassasin keep its learned database, and can i get a nice learned one? |
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| 10:10.39 | plodder | anybody out there using vbox on etch? if so, is there a decent howto or website? |
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| 10:11.07 | ddalton | hey what script to I put commands into be ran at boot up? I want brltty to start as early as possible |
| 10:11.23 | liable | bah trance, go the old school |
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| 10:12.09 | xingu | been there done that got the tinnitus to prove it |
| 10:12.49 | ddalton | how do I start a daemon app before the log in screen? what script do I edit? |
| 10:12.50 | ddalton | or file |
| 10:13.14 | liable | xingu: heh, i was there when whistles were the rage.. :) |
| 10:13.41 | liable | annoying fuckers usually, but sometimes good |
| 10:14.02 | Vasistha | ddalton: there are a few different ways to start daemons. What daemon is it? (knowing that will help us determine the most appropriate way to start it) |
| 10:15.24 | xingu | liable: it was the arsehats on speed that did my nut |
| 10:15.35 | xingu | nasty nasty thing, speed. |
| 10:15.43 | simonrvn | sure is |
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| 10:16.26 | simonrvn | OW |
| 10:16.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | xingu, ... ouch? |
| 10:16.54 | xingu | yeah, big ow. |
| 10:17.22 | liable | dunno, the techno scene was pretty cool back in those days where i lived |
| 10:18.21 | xingu | ditto, it was just the gangs of raverboys that'd turn up, shoot up in the carpark, then go spastic in unpredictable ways |
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| 10:18.42 | simonrvn | worst i got was almost slcing my right index in two with a knife (doing something stupid while whittling), and this current one, piece of flesh taken out about 4.5cm x 3cm |
| 10:19.17 | plodder | for the kde wizzards - how do I install a kth theme file onto a remote box via the command line? |
| 10:19.45 | liable | never really saw that, all just e freaks and funny pants, glow sticks and weird fluffy things to freak you out ;) |
| 10:20.21 | liable | grinder wounds are the worst |
| 10:20.37 | simonrvn | as in meat? i would imagine |
| 10:21.00 | liable | ya, take out a chunk of finger, takes ages to heal |
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| 10:21.50 | simonrvn | yeh, the cut on my index was right on the joint. i still can't bend it all the way, and that was 3 years ago or so |
| 10:22.38 | simonrvn | plodder: /msg dpkg sshx ; run the kcontrol via ssh ;p |
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| 10:25.08 | liable | anyone got a sierra 875u? |
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| 10:31.53 | Jyzygzel- | how do you increase the log size for apache? |
| 10:32.00 | Jyzygzel- | its 52weeks by default |
| 10:32.35 | wols_ | Jyzygzel-: logratotate zips and deletes the logs long before 52weeks |
| 10:32.41 | wols_ | *logrotate |
| 10:32.51 | Jyzygzel- | well not for me |
| 10:32.57 | Jyzygzel- | i have a year worth of logs |
| 10:33.04 | liable | nope, apache is a year on my box |
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| 10:33.31 | Jyzygzel- | and hate that i only notice now |
| 10:33.40 | Jyzygzel- | years worth of logs gone |
| 10:33.59 | liable | only took you a year to notice? :P |
| 10:34.11 | Jyzygzel- | no it took me couple years |
| 10:34.22 | liable | hehe, slacker |
| 10:34.40 | Jyzygzel- | there is nothing more horrible then log trimming |
| 10:34.56 | grub | hey, i get this when i try to run screenlets-manager http://rafb.net/p/RZ3o6A11.html |
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| 10:37.56 | Mitar | i am getting: |
| 10:37.57 | Mitar | Setting up apache (1.3.33-6sarge3) ... |
| 10:37.58 | Mitar | dpkg: error processing apache (--configure): |
| 10:37.58 | dpkg | That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster. |
| 10:37.58 | Mitar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:38.53 | zicho | When i try to run Gnash, it says "Could not find any <gui>-gnash executable under directory /usr/bin, with <gui> in .". What does it mean? |
| 10:38.53 | Mitar | :-) |
| 10:39.17 | grub | anyone know what that error means? |
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| 10:40.15 | wols_ | grub: it means you don't have pygtk 2.0 |
| 10:40.25 | wols_ | grub: how did you install this screenlets manager? |
| 10:40.28 | zicho | Is there any other application than gnash to run swf-files directly from a terminal? |
| 10:40.36 | Mitar | hm, how could i get more outpute of what is going on? |
| 10:40.52 | grub | wols_, apt |
| 10:40.54 | Mitar | and what exactly dpkg mean? |
| 10:40.56 | grub | am using lenny |
| 10:41.09 | wols_ | Mitar: it means you should paste the FULL output. not only ir irrelevant parts |
| 10:41.20 | Mitar | where can i get full output? |
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| 10:41.51 | wols_ | Mitar: same place where you got the crap you pasted |
| 10:41.57 | wols_ | !info screenlets-manager lenny |
| 10:42.03 | urv | grub: i am not sure but i think you should load the "gtk" module first? |
| 10:42.26 | Mitar | that's everythin i get |
| 10:42.31 | Mitar | where should i paste? |
| 10:42.37 | wols_ | !paste |
| 10:42.37 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 10:43.36 | Mitar | http://paste.debian.net/44405 |
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| 10:46.59 | Mitar | wols_: where can I get more infomration on where exacly do upgrade fail? |
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| 10:47.55 | liable | put set -x in the script that is failing |
| 10:48.06 | wols_ | by checking the apache postist and putting "set -x" (I think) as first line there |
| 10:48.16 | liable | run the script, see where it barfs |
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| 10:48.55 | Quibus | Hi all |
| 10:49.12 | grub | wols_, i have python-gtk2 installed |
| 10:49.12 | Quibus | Is it possible to make the keyboard shortcuts from Metacity work also when compiz is active? |
| 10:49.16 | Mitar | hmm, it works for me |
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| 10:49.28 | Mitar | i run /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache.postinst and it works |
| 10:49.48 | wols_ | Mitar: run the apt-get upgrade again |
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| 10:50.47 | Mitar | aha |
| 10:50.53 | Mitar | thanks, now i get output |
| 10:51.37 | Mitar | i also get in /etc/apache something like "httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue.dpkg-inst.queue" file |
| 10:51.43 | Mitar | this is not really ok ... |
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| 10:52.25 | alexandroos | hello, im trying to get an mp4 video playing with Totem, the video is ok, I just can't hear the audio. do i need a particular codec to play the audio? |
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| 10:55.09 | liable | depends what the audio was encoded with |
| 10:56.27 | Mitar | http://rafb.net/p/OGpHmT98.html |
| 10:56.55 | Mitar | no idea what this means ... and why it makes the filename like "httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue.dpkg-inst.queue" |
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| 10:58.37 | alexandroos | liable, "file" says ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, version 2 |
| 10:59.39 | liable | alexandroos: thats not much help, run mplayer from the command line on it, and it should tell you the audio codec. dunno how to get that info from xine |
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| 11:00.03 | alexandroos | liable, ok |
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| 11:03.21 | alexandroos | liable, it says Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding) |
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| 11:05.01 | Mitar | please, anybody? how can i fix this error? |
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| 11:06.11 | wols_ | Mitar: http://rafb.net/p/OGpHmT98.html |
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| 11:06.15 | wols_ | Mitar: apache/server-namewww.druga.org doesn'\''t exist' |
| 11:06.17 | alexandroos | liable, i can play it fine with mplayer I can hear the audio |
| 11:06.25 | Mitar | what this mean? |
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| 11:06.38 | liable | alexandroos: odd |
| 11:06.39 | wols_ | Mitar: your local dns setup seems to be fubar |
| 11:06.59 | EvilDin | hi, i made Raid 10, but when i am installing debian raid 10 is not detected, setup show me all 4 disks, it should be only one, what can i do ? |
| 11:06.59 | liable | alexandroos: check your audio settings in xine |
| 11:07.02 | Mitar | ehm, it worked until now :-) |
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| 11:07.26 | alexandroos | liable, why odd? |
| 11:07.31 | Mitar | this should be a filename? a directoy? a setting? |
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| 11:07.50 | liable | alexandroos: that mplayer plays it, but xine wont |
| 11:08.03 | moope1 | hullo, where dya find the manual pages? |
| 11:08.30 | wols_ | moope1: /usr/share/man |
| 11:08.42 | dimir | Moin! |
| 11:08.59 | wols_ | EvilDin: what raid controller? |
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| 11:09.50 | EvilDin | PCI ATA Promise FastTrak TX4310 RAID 0,4, integrated on MB Aspen Hill S3000AHLX |
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| 11:10.18 | alexandroos | liable, the audio settings seems to be ok |
| 11:10.28 | wols_ | EvilDin: that's fakeraid |
| 11:10.29 | wols_ | !fakeraid |
| 11:10.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, fakeraid is Term used for controller cards that advertise raid functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a bios ... if you use them with Debian it's suggested that you don't set a raid in the bios and don't use dmraid, just use regular software raid (md). |
| 11:10.50 | liable | alexandroos: well, something is misconfigured |
| 11:11.03 | roxy_ | Could someone give me a link on how to add a Windows XP on a debian system. I want to have Windows XP on its on partition and be able to choose at grub prompt time. I can install Windows XP with the install CD. |
| 11:11.13 | moope1 | wols, is there uncompressed documentation? |
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| 11:11.33 | wols_ | moope1: /usr/share/doc |
| 11:11.39 | wols_ | and why uncompressed? |
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| 11:12.02 | liable | moope1: zless/zcat/mc |
| 11:12.09 | moope1 | roxy_: the best way to get windowsXP on debian is to use a virtual machine |
| 11:12.10 | roxy_ | I can find a lot of doc on how to install linux on Windows but not the opposit. |
| 11:12.15 | EvilDin | lspci output: Raid bus controller: Promise Technology Inc. PDC40719 [FastTrak TX4300 TX4310] (rev 02) |
| 11:12.22 | moope1 | wols_: regex training |
| 11:12.40 | roxy_ | moope1: I don't need to have them both at the same time, so don't want to have vm overhead |
| 11:12.51 | DustyBin | if im using a 192.168.0.X local network, does that mean it should be 192.168.0.X/24 or 192.168.0.X/8 ? |
| 11:13.18 | dutchfish | dondelelcaro, i got it working! now all my outgoing mail is pgp signed, so i can easely detect all back-scatter at the MTA level saves me precious cpu cycles and energy on the spamassassin engines |
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| 11:13.49 | liable | retard: dont irc as root, you cant talk here as root |
| 11:14.15 | DustyBin | why cant your irssi as root? its not as if somone can root you from a irc client |
| 11:14.20 | moope1 | roxy, install it, then all you need to do is reinstall grub in the master boot record |
| 11:14.21 | EvilDin | wols_: so this is fake raid controller, but why then it have it's own setup to set raids ? |
| 11:14.43 | liable | DustyBin: i said irc, and yes bitchx had an exploit once |
| 11:15.10 | moope1 | roxy, try looking in the ubuntu documentation I know there are a few examples there. |
| 11:15.31 | DustyBin | 'once'.. |
| 11:15.33 | DustyBin | but anyway |
| 11:15.38 | liable | EvilDin: you still need to enable it in the card bios, but in linux you need to use siftware raid |
| 11:16.00 | liable | DustyBin: and the purpose of irc'ing as root is? |
| 11:16.05 | wols_ | liable: why should he. read the factoid |
| 11:16.06 | DustyBin | would my system be more secure making application listen on 192.168.0.1/32 rather than 192.168.0.1/24 |
| 11:16.22 | EvilDin | liable: am any guide n how to do software raid ? |
| 11:16.31 | wols_ | DustyBin: nonsensical |
| 11:16.38 | DustyBin | ? |
| 11:16.40 | wols_ | !raid |
| 11:16.40 | dpkg | it has been said that raid is Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. See RAID{0-5}, [Software Raid], http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels |
| 11:16.40 | dutchfish | DustyBin, nope |
| 11:16.52 | liable | wols_: i had a sa1200 and you *did* need to enable raid in the card bios, so you read whatever you want, i'll take my experience |
| 11:17.40 | dutchfish | DustyBin, read OSI layer and performance impact on it |
| 11:17.48 | liable | EvilDin: the installer can do it all for you without much effort |
| 11:17.53 | DustyBin | ok |
| 11:18.03 | EvilDin | um how ? |
| 11:18.21 | liable | it has software raid option during install |
| 11:18.21 | EvilDin | i am at partitioning discs |
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| 11:18.47 | wols_ | EvilDin: expergui |
| 11:19.01 | EvilDin | am i am in basic installer |
| 11:19.19 | EvilDin | how could i get the expert menu |
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| 11:19.54 | dutchfish | DustyBin, you also might want to read about ebtables/iptables if you are planning filtering/firewalling |
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| 11:20.11 | DustyBin | ive setup postfix like this: mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8,192.168.0.X/24 |
| 11:20.45 | DustyBin | i think that sounds reasonable |
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| 11:21.04 | liable | EvilDin: when partitoning make the fs raid and then it gives you an option to make a raid next iirc |
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| 11:21.27 | liable | not fs, partition type.. |
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| 11:21.44 | dutchfish | DustyBin, asuming this would be outgoing relay? |
| 11:21.59 | DustyBin | it will be outgoing and incoming |
| 11:22.13 | DustyBin | port 25 SMTP |
| 11:22.17 | EvilDin | do i have to bi in expert setup gui ? |
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| 11:22.24 | liable | nope |
| 11:22.29 | dutchfish | DustyBin, how does it accept incoming then ? ;) |
| 11:22.45 | DustyBin | through port 25 ? |
| 11:22.49 | liable | the sarge installer had this, i havent done it since then |
| 11:23.00 | dutchfish | DustyBin, think again |
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| 11:23.07 | EvilDin | am so what do i select i seem no to find anywhere to set raid |
| 11:23.13 | DustyBin | "you must think first, before you move.." - bruce lee |
| 11:23.44 | liable | EvilDin: are you at partioning disks step? |
| 11:24.00 | EvilDin | yes |
| 11:24.57 | liable | EvilDin: did the installer automatically give you sizes? |
| 11:25.08 | dutchfish | DustyBin, hint: http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#firewall |
| 11:25.12 | EvilDin | yes it show me 4 x scsi 320GB |
| 11:26.04 | moope1 | how do I do regex on grep? |
| 11:26.21 | moope1 | cat grepex | grep -e [A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4} |
| 11:26.41 | liable | EvilDin: i am running on old memories here, so be patient.. can you not tab down to one disk and partition it as you like, setting the sizes as you wish, and partition type to linux/mdraid? |
| 11:27.22 | liable | EvilDin: i recall screwing around in this step myself when i originally did it |
| 11:27.40 | DustyBin | dutchfish: i had postfix running before but it was all a bit miss and match on how i got it working, i even wrote this post on how i done it: http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2850 everytime i re-install big applications and servers i do things in slightly different ways and i always learn new things |
| 11:28.11 | EvilDin | um i can just select one of 4 disk and set some partiotions. but nowhere is mentioned raid |
| 11:28.13 | DustyBin | so if i want to learn something new i just wipe my server and reinstall everything again |
| 11:28.28 | Mitar | wols_, what should i check to fix this? |
| 11:29.02 | liable | EvilDin: when you set partition type, raid should be an option |
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| 11:29.49 | liable | or is it filesystem.. i think it is actually |
| 11:30.39 | EvilDin | liable: problem that i can't find any option to even set the filesystem or partition type |
| 11:31.14 | liable | EvilDin: it is definately there, just play with it, you'll see it there somewhere |
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| 11:31.45 | liable | EvilDin: even try going back a step and check out all options |
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| 11:32.22 | liable | as i say, its been some time since i did it, and it wasnt really intuitive to me then and took some stuffing about |
| 11:32.23 | gnubie | hello all.. |
| 11:32.31 | EvilDin | um nope i don't seem to be enough smart to find this option :) |
| 11:32.34 | DustyBin | im now using a swap size what is half of my physical memory, servers should use physical memory and not rely on swap space because it will impact performance |
| 11:33.12 | gnubie | how can i play an aac/m4a file here using debian etch? |
| 11:33.21 | DustyBin | that reminds me, how can i view how much swap is being used? |
| 11:33.36 | liable | free/top/htop |
| 11:33.41 | DustyBin | aye ok |
| 11:33.53 | dutchfish | DustyBin, nothing wrong with that post except it doesnt explain security and for what purpose your initial setup should be used ... i.e. postfix can do a huge palet of different jobs/implementations, i like the former link for its clear setup of the security things a compagnies smart-host would go simulair, specially along with the " full of holes" exchange server |
| 11:34.26 | DustyBin | ok |
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| 11:35.16 | DustyBin | ive also bought O'Reillys 'Linux Server Security' book and its got a nice section regarding postfix, ill have a read of that |
| 11:36.03 | dutchfish | DustyBin, yup, and dont forget "The book of postfix" it has a excellent topic on smart hosts |
| 11:36.18 | DustyBin | because postfix is just used for a home setup, do you think its a bit OTT, should i be using exim instead? |
| 11:36.28 | DustyBin | aye ok |
| 11:36.47 | EvilDin | liable: um i find raid option, how then to select in what relationship are discks |
| 11:36.49 | dutchfish | DustyBin, odd? i dont know, but i prefer postfix .. all the way |
| 11:36.53 | salvin | pidgin is broken on sid |
| 11:36.54 | DustyBin | ok :D |
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| 11:37.16 | liable | EvilDin: it should have a raid option, 0/1/5 iirc |
| 11:37.40 | EvilDin | um what about raid 10 |
| 11:37.41 | jelly-home | salvin: this is not the place to report bugs in unstable |
| 11:37.41 | liable | EvilDin: you need to add the disks, i think this is the bit that confused me |
| 11:37.45 | g00se | How do i ask 'what terminal am i on and what's my pid?' |
| 11:37.50 | dutchfish | DustyBin, 2nd choice would be dovecot |
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| 11:38.02 | jelly-home | g00se: tty; echo $$ |
| 11:38.05 | liable | EvilDin: i dunno if software raid can do it, check google for mdadm and raid 10 |
| 11:38.10 | DustyBin | i thought dovecot was a imap-courier |
| 11:38.15 | g00se | jelly-home: Ta |
| 11:38.49 | dutchfish | DustyBin, sorry i was unclear, i meant dovecot as 2nd choice instead of courier |
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| 11:39.26 | DustyBin | im going to combine, postfix, courier-imap and squirrelmail |
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| 11:39.54 | dutchfish | DustyBin, pretty straight forward, yes that setup is used widely |
| 11:40.01 | DustyBin | ok |
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| 11:40.05 | Mitar | i get this error while upgrading apache on sarge: http://rafb.net/p/OGpHmT98.html |
| 11:41.26 | DustyBin | Mitar: upgrade to etch :D |
| 11:41.35 | Mitar | cannot, yet |
| 11:41.48 | dutchfish | DustyBin, only one catch, if there are many users on imap, think in lots of ram ... |
| 11:42.09 | DustyBin | dutchfish: its only for people in my family, maybe 4 people max |
| 11:42.30 | dutchfish | DustyBin, oh .. ok ... anything will do then |
| 11:42.34 | DustyBin | ok |
| 11:42.58 | jelly-home | why courier-imap and not say dovecot? |
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| 11:43.21 | dutchfish | jelly-home, i mentioned it some lines back |
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| 11:43.27 | DustyBin | courier-imap sounds more straight to the point, dovecot sounds like a silly name :P |
| 11:43.53 | dutchfish | DustyBin, dont underestimate it because of its name |
| 11:43.57 | DustyBin | ok |
| 11:44.29 | jelly-home | Silly? Ah, so squirrels are _very_ IT or mail related animals, I see. |
| 11:44.39 | DustyBin | hehe |
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| 11:44.57 | dutchfish | DustyBin, i now lots of people using it in enterprise setups, but i prefer courier |
| 11:45.20 | DustyBin | enterprise setup = RHEL + dovecot ? |
| 11:45.39 | dutchfish | DustyBin, no, debian all the way ;) |
| 11:45.42 | DustyBin | good :D |
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| 11:45.50 | DustyBin | Debian Enterprise Linux :D |
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| 11:46.10 | dutchfish | DustyBin, i hope not |
| 11:46.25 | DustyBin | thats the complete opposite of what debian is |
| 11:46.48 | DustyBin | everything has to be completely free, even firefox wasnt allowed |
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| 11:47.05 | dutchfish | DustyBin, no frills, but it does the job and its still doing it after all those fancy names have left |
| 11:48.02 | DustyBin | im going to take my time setting up my mail server this time |
| 11:48.18 | jelly-home | DustyBin: what's nonfree about firefox? It only fails at being distributable under DFSG. |
| 11:48.30 | DustyBin | the logo i think? |
| 11:48.33 | DustyBin | i cant remember |
| 11:48.35 | HardDisk_WP | hi all |
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| 12:05.13 | dutchfish | just curieus if someone has implemented EMEW with an MTA on debian? how you did it? |
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| 12:12.26 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 12:12.26 | dpkg | <peterS> I don't know if I need anything with a name like 'shortening' touching that area |
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| 12:13.38 | jelly-home | !tmi |
| 12:13.39 | dpkg | it has been said that tmi is too much information, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island |
| 12:15.16 | jelly-home | dutchfish: EMEW? |
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| 12:15.55 | SpeedyG | hey, for a full debian desktop install, 8GB would be more than enough right? |
| 12:16.04 | SpeedyG | (diskspace) |
| 12:16.26 | shamrock | can anyone suggest what might have got uninstalled here? Iceweasel has stoppoed showing the youtube player and dilbert cartoons "in place" (www.dilbert.com). Some sort of plugin missing? But what? |
| 12:16.29 | dutchfish | jelly-home, Enhanced Message-ID as Email Watermark (for preventing backscatter) EMEW |
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| 12:18.59 | liable | SpeedyG: yerp, should be, you'll have to keep your apt-cache clean though if you run testing/unstable |
| 12:19.02 | dutchfish | jelly-home, at the MTA level of coarse |
| 12:19.10 | xiangyixiang | i don't know |
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| 12:19.38 | SpeedyG | liable: for now, it'll probably be etch, which would be sufficient for a 4yr old laptop ;) |
| 12:19.57 | liable | shamrock: youtube uses flash i think, so make sure you have that installed |
| 12:19.58 | SpeedyG | s/would/should/ :) |
| 12:20.09 | liable | SpeedyG: yep, should be fine |
| 12:20.14 | SpeedyG | youtube is flash+js |
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| 12:20.40 | xiangyixiang | debian is good |
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| 12:20.52 | xiangyixiang | i love it |
| 12:21.11 | jelly-home | dutchfish: any references? Google mainly references a SnertSoft product |
| 12:21.13 | dutchfish | xiangyixiang, small correction, the debian is the best ;) |
| 12:21.13 | SpeedyG | shamrock: I suggest you look into your javascript settings, since both dilbert and youtube use js |
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| 12:21.34 | xiangyixiang | haha |
| 12:21.38 | xiangyixiang | yeah |
| 12:22.06 | dutchfish | jelly-home, not much except this in a commercial product: http://www.fsl.com/docs/BarricadeMX-WhitePaper-2.pdf |
| 12:22.24 | jelly-home | dutchfish: yeah, already read that |
| 12:22.32 | jelly-home | s/read/skimmed thru/ |
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| 12:22.57 | dutchfish | jelly-home, gone try to re-implement it the debian way |
| 12:23.17 | xiangyixiang | are you student or other? i'm a student in China! |
| 12:23.51 | jelly-home | dutchfish: it's funny how most of opensource apps are a cheap reimplementation of some else's original idea ;-) |
| 12:23.53 | Asmooh | hey i try to write to an hfsplus disk in linux but it always mount as read only bit in mount it says rw, i installed hfstools hfsprogs and stuff .. anyone a clue |
| 12:24.29 | dutchfish | jelly-home, well, the baricade-box runs on linux, and gues what distro ;) |
| 12:25.48 | jelly-home | dutchfish: this is more appropriate to my tech-oriented mind than a pdf: http://www.snert.com/Software/ecartis/index.php?go=/barricademx/2007-05/53 |
| 12:25.56 | dutchfish | jelly-home, the idee is not new, i cant rem where i read it before, it never made it so far, and i can ausre you it works, in fact it works very well |
| 12:26.54 | dutchfish | jelly-home, yes, it is |
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| 12:27.42 | dutchfish | jelly-home, for now i stick to signed messages, it works, but needs more cycles |
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| 12:30.39 | jelly-home | dutchfish: it looks as an interesting thing to put on our incoming mx boxes |
| 12:30.43 | dutchfish | jelly-home, or till i found a faster encryption algo. wich i am about too, almost |
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| 12:31.59 | dutchfish | jelly-home, rem my q some days ago about 2 way hashes? well, i probably found a much faster way to genrate them and convert back |
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| 12:32.50 | dutchfish | jelly-home, if it works i will put it in a wiki |
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| 12:37.16 | dutchfish | jelly-home, aslo working on fast-breeder algoritm for a new AI for spam detection wich works in such a way that the more spam it traps the less cycles it uses |
| 12:38.30 | dutchfish | jelly-home, if that is finished, no more creating spam rules, mom! |
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| 12:43.40 | jelly-home | dutchfish: it only works until the spammers get your code and hire someone to circumvent it |
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| 12:44.50 | dutchfish | jelly-home, the code (in this) will be open-source (no security by obscurity), it cant be circumvented. |
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| 12:45.24 | dutchfish | jelly-home, because it adapts continously |
| 12:45.31 | ledet | dutchfish: i'd like som fries with that... |
| 12:45.37 | xiangyixiang | in China ,i didn't know jelly-home |
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| 12:46.28 | dutchfish | ledet, ? (sorry i am not english native) |
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| 12:46.43 | jelly-home | dutchfish: it's a skeptical resonse |
| 12:46.48 | Richo_ | how does debian go with ati cards? |
| 12:46.59 | Richo_ | i'm about to swap over my desktop, and i need some assurance that it's at least possible |
| 12:47.03 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 12:47.28 | cahoot | Richo_: you really mean ati and 3d? |
| 12:47.28 | jelly-home | Richo_: 2D will most probably work |
| 12:47.28 | ledet | dutchfish: neither am i.... i was just saying that i'd like to order two of those right away... that would be fairly big in the anti-spam business... |
| 12:47.32 | dutchfish | jelly-home, ok, ill put the idee as soon as possible on the net, i like sceptic respones |
| 12:47.59 | PythonNinja | cahoot: and jelly-home: i really mean debian and ati and my dual head setup |
| 12:48.08 | PythonNinja | it worked in mandriva, so it will 99.9999999 work in debian |
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| 12:48.20 | PythonNinja | i'm just paranoid, i hate scrubbing my main desktop, i can just tell i'll forget something |
| 12:48.45 | jelly-home | ninjas fear nothing. |
| 12:48.51 | PythonNinja | good point |
| 12:48.54 | dutchfish | ledet, and you cant order it ;) it will be GPL, chears |
| 12:49.05 | PythonNinja | need to hose heaps of stuff to move /home into a seperate parition though |
| 12:49.10 | PythonNinja | buggered if i'm losing that |
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| 12:50.47 | hikenboot | how do i get aptitude to run in a chroot is there a root-dir= command or somthing |
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| 12:51.25 | SamuraiDio | hi |
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| 12:51.37 | SamuraiDio | could anyone help me with compiz? |
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| 12:51.54 | kLinGo | hello |
| 12:52.04 | kLinGo | anybody to help me with apt-get update |
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| 12:52.14 | kLinGo | please |
| 12:52.16 | kLinGo | apt-get update halts on updating package list from debian servers |
| 12:52.21 | xiangyixiang | what's wrong ? |
| 12:52.40 | kLinGo | i can ping the server from the machine but apt-get update doesnt work |
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| 12:53.36 | a-atwood | PythonNinja: take a look at Envy too. scripts to auto download and configure the ATI and Nvidia drivers on any Debian-based distro |
| 12:54.04 | a-atwood | PythonNinja: s/any/most/ |
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| 12:54.08 | jelly-home | a-atwood: do those do it "the debian way"? |
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| 12:54.43 | a-atwood | jelly-home: sadly, no. but they work. 8) |
| 12:54.52 | SamuraiDio | i added opera repo on my sources list but it dont appears on my packages |
| 12:54.57 | liable | kLinGo: you can ping by hostname or ip? |
| 12:55.09 | jelly-home | a-atwood: don't recommend things that break the packaging system |
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| 12:55.23 | kLinGo | by hostname |
| 12:55.44 | liable | kLinGo: are you using ftp.debian.org? |
| 12:56.20 | jelly-home | !ati |
| 12:56.21 | dpkg | Want to use a newer ATI videocard in sarge? for etch/testing and sid/unstable, just install fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src and read /usr/share/doc/fglrx-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz Try to avoid using ati's stuff directy unless you have to. --- I've heard the driver control panel app needs 32bit libs to compile under 64b, or chris.evenden@amd.com, or and open specs announced 2007-09-05 or ask about <radeonhd> |
| 12:56.39 | kLinGo | liable: no |
| 12:56.59 | liable | kLinGo: ok, whatever mirror you are using, try a different one |
| 12:57.44 | kLinGo | liable: should i try ftp.debian.org ... so i add to the the sources.conf file line : |
| 12:57.52 | kLinGo | deb ftp.debian.org ? |
| 12:58.28 | liable | kLinGo: you can try it, but dont use it, use a mirror for your country |
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| 12:58.57 | dutchfish | kLinGo, http://merkel.debian.org/~jeroen/mirrorstatus.html |
| 12:59.54 | PythonNinja | whoa |
| 12:59.59 | kLinGo | i need some keywords after the line...like stable main ... |
| 13:00.03 | PythonNinja | that can't be good |
| 13:00.08 | PythonNinja | 108 gig partition |
| 13:00.13 | PythonNinja | 14 gig free |
| 13:00.29 | PythonNinja | /home is nearly 90 gig |
| 13:00.31 | PythonNinja | one user |
| 13:00.32 | PythonNinja | :S |
| 13:00.49 | liable | kLinGo: put your sources.list on a pastebin |
| 13:01.05 | liable | kLinGo: have you been editing it or what has caused this problem |
| 13:01.13 | a-atwood | <supresses jokes about pr0n> |
| 13:01.16 | kLinGo | it's ok now |
| 13:01.19 | kLinGo | thanx |
| 13:01.34 | kLinGo | i forgot ftp:// and i also added stable main contrib non-free |
| 13:01.49 | kLinGo | thanx a lot |
| 13:01.53 | liable | dont use ftp.debian.org |
| 13:01.59 | liable | use a mirror |
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| 13:04.00 | kLinGo | liable: now i see that ftp.debian.org is not ok |
| 13:04.06 | kLinGo | thanx for the mirror list |
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| 13:04.50 | PythonNinja | a-atwood: actually, i checked that :( |
| 13:04.53 | PythonNinja | but it's only 2.4 gig |
| 13:04.56 | PythonNinja | D: |
| 13:05.10 | sepski | might be an oddball question, but are there ok interior drawing/design schematics programs? |
| 13:05.11 | PythonNinja | the machine knows then end is nigh, the bloody thing is slow as! |
| 13:05.12 | SamuraiDio | how do i make gdm permit diplicated logins? |
| 13:06.15 | liable | sepski: i think blender is the weapon of choice for that or qcad? |
| 13:06.44 | a-atwood | PythonNinja: aye. Got by for 7 years using 10GB 486 as main server. upgraded to .5TB and already used 20%. w/ no naughties at all. |
| 13:06.45 | liable | qcad is pretty basic, and blender is pretty hard to grep |
| 13:07.13 | LoneTech | don't you mean grok? |
| 13:07.36 | liable | meh, whatever floats your boat |
| 13:07.41 | LoneTech | though neither is a specialised interior design program |
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| 13:08.10 | PythonNinja | a-atwood: my fileserver has a 20gig hd xD |
| 13:08.14 | liable | ooh, has radeonhd made it to sid? |
| 13:08.20 | liable | !info radeonhd |
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| 13:09.10 | liable | !info xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd |
| 13:09.11 | sepski | ill look at both |
| 13:09.13 | sepski | thanks |
| 13:09.35 | dpkg | xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd: (X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display driver), section x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 129 kB, Installed size: 320 kB |
| 13:09.50 | liable | yay |
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| 13:10.03 | lhadji | Hi! Using Debain Etch. If i recompile into a newer kernel, does aptitude still deal with security patches and stuff for the kernel? or do they release just based on 2.6.18-4 or whatever the default was? |
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| 13:11.13 | liable | lhadji: no, debian only releases new images for the kernels they supply.. |
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| 13:12.21 | liable | lhadji: but if you pick a fairly stable kernel, you will prolly only have to recompile once a month or so |
| 13:12.36 | liable | and they arent always security fixes anyway |
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| 13:13.10 | microtux | !dns |
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| 13:13.33 | b0ha | why my system cant set clock |
| 13:13.48 | b0ha | at start up i see *Unable to set clock |
| 13:14.06 | b0ha | instead of 14:14 i have 15:14 |
| 13:14.06 | lhadji | Yeah I just wanted to know what the deal was with "staying updated" but using a different kernel to the one supplied. thanks for help |
| 13:14.25 | dutchfish | !tzconfig |
| 13:14.25 | dpkg | hmm... setting time is if you're using a coexisting DOS/Win on your x86, put UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS else put UTC=yes. use tzconfig to set the right timezone, then use date (man date) to set time (avoid doing that when precious applications are running, some might get confused). Now do hwclock --systohc if RTC is local, or hwclock --systohc --utc if UTC. Erase /etc/adjtime and repeat the previous command again. This prevents wrong time drift ... |
| 13:14.46 | hoxu | !timezone |
| 13:14.46 | dpkg | it has been said that timezone is "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/<timezone> /etc/localtime", or tzconfig, or or tzselect after etch |
| 13:15.04 | b0ha | dutchfish, thanks i will try |
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| 13:17.11 | jelly-home | lhadji: if you install and use the distro linux-image-2.6-686, that one will keep track of securify issues. |
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| 13:18.00 | PythonNinja | s/resolution/revelation/ |
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| 13:19.20 | liable | eek, i havent got *any* on my boxen.. |
| 13:19.35 | liable | must get porn |
| 13:19.45 | DustyBin | is there a quick way to remove |
| 13:19.48 | DustyBin | rc apache2.2-common |
| 13:19.56 | DustyBin | 'rc' on the dpkg --list |
| 13:20.07 | liable | DustyBin: dpkg -P apache2.2-common |
| 13:20.12 | DustyBin | without doing each one manually with dpkg --purge blalbla |
| 13:20.26 | lhadji | jelly-home, ok cool. What was the deal with etch 4.0r0 saying there was an upgrade to the kernel available but it wouldnt download it. (i believe it was 2.6.18-5) from the installed 2.6.18-4.. id done numerous updates from aptitude.. but every time i did an aptitude upgrade it said i could upload the kernel.. (im guessing with a dist-upgrade?). is that a new kernel that turns it into 4.0r1? |
| 13:20.36 | hoxu | DustyBin, one line shell script :P |
| 13:20.41 | DustyBin | eek |
| 13:20.43 | dutchfish | !wildcards |
| 13:20.47 | lhadji | update* |
| 13:20.50 | DustyBin | regex :-S |
| 13:21.05 | DustyBin | regex = worse than learning chinese |
| 13:21.25 | hoxu | !absg DustyBin |
| 13:21.26 | dpkg | DustyBin: abs-guide is the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide to be found at http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#abs . It is also packaged, 'apt-get install abs-guide'. |
| 13:21.40 | dryrot | < sparr_> thanks mbroeker and liable |
| 13:21.44 | dryrot | oops |
| 13:22.14 | jelly-home | lhadji: the 2.6.18-5 kernel is not module-compatible with the old one, you need to install it manually (or install linux-image-2.6-686 which will keep track of similar issues in the future) |
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| 13:22.25 | DustyBin | apt-get --purge-rc |
| 13:22.33 | jelly-home | s/manually/explicitely/, sorry |
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| 13:23.13 | liable | anyone have a sierra 875u? |
| 13:23.20 | dutchfish | jelly-home, explain me what you guys mean by s/something/somemore ? |
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| 13:23.34 | lhadji | jelly-home, thanks. |
| 13:23.34 | jelly-home | dutchfish: replacing a word |
| 13:23.57 | DustyBin | ok clever folk, how would you list all the 'rc's on the dpkg --list |
| 13:24.00 | DustyBin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.06 | dutchfish | jelly-home, oh ok :) [i feel stupid] |
| 13:24.11 | hoxu | DustyBin, man regex |
| 13:24.17 | DustyBin | exactly... |
| 13:24.22 | DustyBin | ive man'd regex many times.... |
| 13:24.29 | jelly-home | dutchfish: thus correcting an error in some previous line. s/// is a command from sed, or vi |
| 13:24.31 | xiangyixiang | where can i download jelly-home? |
| 13:24.46 | dutchfish | jelly-home, ah ok sed i know |
| 13:24.51 | jelly-home | xiangyixiang: I'm _not_ available for download. |
| 13:25.11 | xiangyixiang | heh <:> |
| 13:25.49 | xiangyixiang | kidding !!!! |
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| 13:26.37 | xiangyixiang | who like chinese music ? |
| 13:26.56 | wAndyw78 | Is /dev/dsp only provided from OSS? |
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| 13:27.21 | liable | snd-pcm-oss |
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| 13:27.29 | DustyBin | hoxu: i think i got it, dpkg --list | grep [!"#$%&'()*+,-./:;?@[\\\]_`{|}~[!"#$%&'()*+,-.rc/:;?@[\\\]_`{|}~[!"#$%&'()*+,-./:;?@[\\\]_`{|}~] |
| 13:27.31 | liable | modprobe it |
| 13:27.36 | webczat | are any problems with gnome in debian etch rc 0? |
| 13:27.44 | wAndyw78 | liable: thanks, does snd-pcm-oss conflict with alsa? |
| 13:27.56 | spy | when I try to run the livecd of debian (either woody or etch) on my Itanium1 box, the video signal goes away at some moment during kernel hardware probing. any idea what is wrong? |
| 13:27.59 | liable | wAndyw78: nope, its a compat module |
| 13:28.09 | wAndyw78 | liable: Thank you |
| 13:28.14 | liable | np |
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| 13:29.06 | jelly-home | wAndyw78: that's a part of alsa. if your app needs /dev/dsp, you can also try running it with a userspace wrapper, aoss your-command |
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| 13:29.22 | liable | DustyBin: erm, your syntax is wrong, you forgot the //!!@lol/^ |
| 13:29.26 | wAndyw78 | jelly-home: Okay, used also aoss for bb ;-) |
| 13:29.28 | dutchfish | jelly-home, http://web.mac.com/arnold_zwicky/BizarroRoadSign.gif |
| 13:29.48 | dv_ | is sshfs a viable alternative to fusesmb / smbmount? |
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| 13:30.22 | dv_ | I know its slower but it seems to work always, unlike smb which frequently fails |
| 13:30.52 | jelly-home | dv_: only if you have a sshd running on the remote server |
| 13:31.09 | dv_ | jelly-home, already running |
| 13:31.12 | netgear | how does one see as what ttyUSBx a modem is connected? |
| 13:31.28 | dv_ | I mean are there any disadvantages or pitfalls regarding sshfs? |
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| 13:32.32 | dutchfish | dv_, apart from performance hit, no |
| 13:32.33 | jelly-home | dv_: apart from it being slow and not having eg. mmap()? I wouldn't use it heavily. |
| 13:32.39 | netgear | any 3g users ? |
| 13:32.51 | hoxu | netgear, none at all, they all died a horrible, slow death |
| 13:32.55 | jelly-home | !anyone |
| 13:32.55 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 13:33.03 | dv_ | jelly-home, well with fusesmb sometimes the remote machine is just - gone |
| 13:33.09 | dv_ | suddenly the mount point is empty |
| 13:33.21 | jelly-home | dv_: there's a perfectly capable cifs in the kernel... |
| 13:33.24 | dv_ | and smbclient mounts sometimes simply "hang" |
| 13:33.25 | ^Timo^ | morning everyone |
| 13:33.26 | ^Timo^ | :) |
| 13:33.32 | netgear | jelly-home help me or keep quiet please im tired |
| 13:33.43 | dv_ | jelly-home, this one causes these hangs |
| 13:33.47 | hoxu | !bofhsmite netgear |
| 13:33.52 | dutchfish | jelly-home, did you just read my mind? |
| 13:34.01 | dv_ | ls mount_point <- I have to press ctrl+c here. |
| 13:34.17 | ^Timo^ | i got a problem with running ssh from putty |
| 13:34.32 | ^Timo^ | when i restart ssh services it gives this problem |
| 13:34.32 | ^Timo^ | http://pastebin.com/d14d7613c |
| 13:34.58 | ^Timo^ | yesterday i mixed up some key config i think |
| 13:35.00 | greenmang0 | dutchfish: is it required to set HorizontalSync and VerticalRefresh Rates for Laptops? |
| 13:35.00 | ^Timo^ | how to fix ? |
| 13:35.03 | jelly-home | dv_: in general I don't think of fuse-based fs as very trustworthy, but so far did not have catastrophical problems with ntfs-3g or sshfs |
| 13:35.04 | tralala | netgear, state your problem or keep quiet please, the channel is full of noise anyhow |
| 13:35.23 | dv_ | jelly-home, ever had this smbfs/cifs behavior? |
| 13:35.30 | dv_ | I never found out why this happens |
| 13:35.38 | dv_ | and its incredibly annoying |
| 13:35.54 | jelly-home | dv_: my network works better than yours, I guess. smb servers are linux or w2003, or xp. |
| 13:36.00 | dutchfish | greenmang0, i have no idee .. |
| 13:36.06 | greenmang0 | dutchfish: OK |
| 13:36.16 | greenmang0 | jelly-home: is it required to set HorizontalSync and VerticalRefresh Rates for Laptops? |
| 13:36.21 | dv_ | jelly-home, funny thing is, if the smb client is xp, it works _always_. |
| 13:36.28 | ^Timo^ | anyone knows how to fix |
| 13:36.30 | ^Timo^ | ? |
| 13:36.30 | dv_ | even though its a freebsd server. |
| 13:36.40 | stew | greenmang0: usually not, in general they can be detected automatically |
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| 13:36.51 | xiangyixiang | vista is a junk ha! |
| 13:36.57 | dv_ | one would think that a linux client and a freebsd server would work better than xp+bsd, but no its the other way round |
| 13:36.57 | jelly-home | dv_: sounds like a buggy implementation _somewhere_. |
| 13:37.00 | dutchfish | !offtopic |
| 13:37.01 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. please join #debian-offtopic |
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| 13:37.24 | greenmang0 | stew: hmm Ok.. thanks |
| 13:37.37 | greenmang0 | stew: my xserver is not starting up! |
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| 13:37.49 | jelly-home | dv_: I have no experience with samba on freebsd (or freebsd at all), sorry |
| 13:37.58 | ^Timo^ | yesterday i where running this : http://pastebin.com/d718f437e |
| 13:38.16 | ^Timo^ | can someone explain me what is wrong ? |
| 13:38.31 | jelly-home | dv_: it's quite possible you'll have better luck with sshfs |
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| 13:40.44 | dutchfish | ^Timo^, looks like you keys are missing or gone bad? regenerate with: ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -N '' -t rsa && ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N '' -t dsa |
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| 13:41.45 | dutchfish | ^Timo^, or someone did something nasty? |
| 13:42.40 | plee | greenmang0, what errors do you get? |
| 13:42.43 | ribnitz | Any recommendations for an app to copy audio cds, adding CD text if needed? |
| 13:42.54 | DustyBin | does anyone been to a LUG ? |
| 13:42.58 | DustyBin | *has |
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| 13:43.15 | hoxu | ribnitz, "adding CD text"? |
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| 13:43.34 | Decepticon | umm.. does anyone know what warning message gparted says when you try to cancel when you're formatting a partition? |
| 13:43.53 | Decepticon | i clicked exit without reading it and i saw something in CAPS with starting with a SEV... |
| 13:43.58 | Decepticon | severe damage?!?! |
| 13:44.00 | Decepticon | :( |
| 13:44.00 | greenmang0 | plee: actually I am trying to install CentOS... but all are sleeping there in #centos |
| 13:44.17 | greenmang0 | plee : it says : no screen found |
| 13:44.20 | plee | greenmang0, heh. ok :) |
| 13:44.28 | ribnitz | hoxu: audio cds contain no filesystem; their tracks are usually numbered sequentially; CD-TEXT is a way to dispaly info like who is singing and the song name.. |
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| 13:45.01 | ribnitz | hoxu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-Text |
| 13:45.07 | azeem | greenmang0: then wait till somebody answers there, or ask on a mailing list or web forum. We cannot help you with centos |
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| 13:45.31 | hoxu | ribnitz, apt-cache search cd-text |
| 13:45.50 | plee | greenmang0, that suggests that it's either the driver for the videocard, or the screen section itself that is wrongly setup. |
| 13:46.21 | plee | greenmang0, try this : X -configure |
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| 13:46.35 | hoxu | ribnitz, also, the wikipedia page lists some software, so there :P |
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| 13:47.03 | plee | greenmang0, and then copy xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf maybe your lucky |
| 13:47.11 | ribnitz | hoxu: the problem eg. with k3b is that on copying a CD, it does not add CD-Text, if it is not there |
| 13:48.07 | hoxu | ribnitz, no clue then... you could try the other programs or google |
| 13:49.04 | ribnitz | hoxu: thanks anyway. |
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| 13:51.49 | badcfe | aparently the group vector is checked on file permission check, so whats the need of doin newgrp? |
| 13:51.50 | gamag | i am having a strange problem with evince. There are two panes, the side pane with thumbnails/index and the content pane. I can increase the size of the side pane by dragging it to right, but I am not able to decrease it's size again. so now I have a very huge thumbnails/index pane and a pathetically narrow content pane. :-( |
| 13:51.57 | badcfe | newgrp isnt needed .. ? |
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| 13:52.13 | wenmi | what is the webhosting software for debian? |
| 13:52.28 | badcfe | ah it may be in order to decide what group is assigned your file creation |
| 13:52.29 | hoxu | wenmi, you mean web server? apache? |
| 13:52.43 | wenmi | what is the webhosting software for debian? |
| 13:52.56 | hoxu | wenmi, you just said that |
| 13:53.20 | PythonNinja | apache, lighttpd, thttpd |
| 13:53.22 | PythonNinja | take your pick |
| 13:53.22 | badcfe | the unix group mechanism suck. seems sudo is the way to go. |
| 13:53.22 | wenmi | hoxu: i mean not just apache.. but for example i want to host a.com, b.com on same machine.. |
| 13:53.31 | hoxu | wenmi, apache |
| 13:54.00 | wenmi | am i right that a.com, b.com can be pointed to two different content just modifying the httpd.conf file? |
| 13:54.06 | plee | wenmi, it's how you set it up that makes the difference |
| 13:54.17 | wenmi | plee: thanks then.. :) |
| 13:54.20 | hoxu | wenmi, yes, you want to look at apache virtual hosts |
| 13:54.35 | dutchfish | wenmi, you may want to delve in apache2 virtual hosting, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/ |
| 13:54.56 | wenmi | yes i want to see a sample of the config of apache virtual hosts.. thank you dutchfish and hoxu.. |
| 13:56.03 | greenmang0 | plee: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/321957-321957-64295-321838-89315-3442832-3442833-3547618.html?jumpid=oc_R1002_USENC-001_HP%20Compaq%206720s%20Notebook%20PC%E2%8C%A9=en&cc=us |
| 13:56.13 | greenmang0 | plee : here is my lappy |
| 13:56.30 | dutchfish | wenmi, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html |
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| 13:57.36 | greenmang0 | plee : your solution didn't work :( |
| 13:57.55 | plee | greenmang0, same error? |
| 13:58.09 | greenmang0 | plee : yeah ! |
| 13:58.29 | plee | greenmang0, :( then there is little I can do. |
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| 14:04.13 | greenmang0 | plee : /root/xorg.conf.new : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2553/ |
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| 14:04.38 | l0llasdasd | Hey people, Visit and join http://www.vidvoter.com IT is an awesome site for Applications, E-books, Games, Movies and TV SHows! Please Visit! :) |
| 14:04.43 | greenmang0 | why there is no : Modes "FOOxBAR" in display? |
| 14:05.01 | wols_ | !ops please ban the spammer |
| 14:05.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: wols_ complains about: please ban the spammer |
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| 14:06.04 | azeem | greenmang0: didn't I ask you to ask elsewhere for help? |
| 14:06.17 | spq | how can i use quotas on a nfs mount? |
| 14:06.31 | plee | greenmang0, you have to set it. :) start a new line below Depth 24 and type in "1024x768" |
| 14:06.57 | plee | greenmang0, other than that, it should work |
| 14:07.22 | greenmang0 | plee : tried... but didn't work :( |
| 14:07.54 | plee | greenmang0, hmm. try changing from vesa to intel |
| 14:08.00 | plee | the videocard driver |
| 14:08.04 | dutchfish | spq, Quotas for NFS shares are enforced on the server end |
| 14:08.06 | wols_ | plee: go to #centos to help greenmang0 |
| 14:08.26 | plee | wols_, huh? |
| 14:08.38 | azeem | plee: this is a debian support channel, greenmang0 is using centos |
| 14:08.40 | spq | dutchfish, ok but i want to modify the quotas on the client |
| 14:08.43 | wols_ | plee: greenmang0 is a centos uses. this is #debian, not #centos |
| 14:08.52 | greenmang0 | plee : ok |
| 14:08.53 | wols_ | *user |
| 14:09.11 | spq | how can i enable a nfs client to modify quota settings on the nfs share |
| 14:09.28 | xiangyixiang | its linux |
| 14:09.30 | wols_ | spq: why should the client be able to change quotas on the server? |
| 14:09.35 | greenmang0 | wols_: azeem ; guys I am asking about XORG |
| 14:09.45 | wols_ | xiangyixiang: if you want linux support, go to ##linux |
| 14:09.48 | wols_ | greenmang0: irrelevant |
| 14:09.58 | hoxu | (_ _)' |
| 14:09.58 | wols_ | xiangyixiang: this is debian support _only_ |
| 14:10.02 | xiangyixiang | no debian |
| 14:10.08 | dutchfish | spq, Quotas for NFS shares are enforced on the server end. You would use the usrquota and grpquota flags in fstab *on the server* for the filesystem it's exporting |
| 14:10.12 | xiangyixiang | hehe |
| 14:10.25 | spq | dutchfish, i have these options |
| 14:10.26 | greenmang0 | plee : Thanks for the help |
| 14:10.34 | plee | greenmang0, did it work? |
| 14:10.34 | spq | but i cant modify the quota settings on the client |
| 14:10.45 | greenmang0 | plee : nah! :( |
| 14:10.57 | plee | greenmang0, ok. |
| 14:11.21 | wols_ | spq: there are no quota settings on the client to set |
| 14:11.34 | spq | wols_, and how can i modify the quota on the client? |
| 14:11.52 | wols_ | spq: you cannot as you've been alread y told. you can change them on the server |
| 14:12.01 | spq | hmm, thats bad |
| 14:12.49 | spq | i dont like to modify all scripts which previously managed users to ssh into the fileserver and modify the quotasthere |
| 14:13.32 | wols_ | spq: if clients could change quotas the quotas would be meaningless since every client user would up his own quota |
| 14:13.48 | dutchfish | wols_, exactly |
| 14:14.08 | spq | wols_, i mean the client host, not the client user |
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| 14:14.12 | spq | what does quotarpc |
| 14:14.14 | spq | do |
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| 14:14.22 | wols_ | spq: same thing |
| 14:14.55 | spq | no, if i trust my own machines (what i do) i should be able to allow it to them |
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| 14:15.03 | gamag | hello! I have a strange problem. tried re-starting my X and then rebooting my box. by default, all PDFs open with the separator exactly at the center, that is 50% index/thumbnail pane and 50% content pane. I can drag the separator to the right but not to the left. so I can't make the index pane smaller. |
| 14:15.08 | gamag | can I raise this as a Debian bug? |
| 14:15.26 | gamag | so that if needed they can report it to upstream? |
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| 14:16.06 | Ronin | gamag: did you check the bts? |
| 14:16.39 | gamag | Ronin: I don't know how. I have been only using Debian so far without being aware how the community works. |
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| 14:16.44 | Ronin | !bts |
| 14:16.44 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of sid and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for sid and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges . |
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| 14:20.03 | sorear | Hahahaha. exim4 just sent me mail to notify me that exim4 is probably not working. |
| 14:20.20 | echo-area | Hi Aptitude removes many packages installed on my system, even including sysvinit-utils, mount, e2fsprogs |
| 14:20.20 | echo-area | My system is broken and I need to fix it within LiveCD |
| 14:20.20 | echo-area | What could possibly be a reason? Thanks |
| 14:20.21 | spq | wols_, you are wrong - quotarpc is exactly what i wanted... |
| 14:20.28 | sorear | (do I need to su -c '> /var/log/exim4/paniclog' ?) |
| 14:20.33 | wols_ | spq: lucky you |
| 14:21.06 | petemc | sorear: whats in paniclog? |
| 14:21.29 | sorear | petemc: a configuration error, since corrected |
| 14:21.36 | ^Timo^ | Morning. |
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| 14:21.40 | sorear | I've been sending and receiving email just fine now |
| 14:21.40 | petemc | then yes, empty it |
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| 14:21.56 | petemc | else it will continue to complain |
| 14:22.02 | ^Timo^ | question does linux debian r4 etch work with windows spanned volume ? |
| 14:22.09 | sorear | petemc: done, thanks. |
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| 14:23.10 | wols_ | ^Timo^: very very unlikely |
| 14:23.37 | echo-area | And aptitude warns me about "untrusted source"... How could I deal with it? Thanks |
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| 14:24.10 | psych | hi |
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| 14:24.18 | psych | is ubuntu slower than debian? |
| 14:24.21 | gamag | regarding the evince problem I just tested that with another account evince works fine. the separator problem is only with my account. |
| 14:25.44 | ^Timo^ | ok |
| 14:25.59 | ^Timo^ | can linux work with his own spanned volume ? |
| 14:26.26 | wols_ | yes. it's called lvm |
| 14:26.30 | douchebag | how do i check if a mkfs.ext3 process is alive and kicking and doing its job (i initiated it via gparted but i canceled in gparted, and the mkfs.ext3 process is still there) when i run top, i see lots of [pdflush] proceses and mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1 ... also, my ext hdd /dev/sdc1's lights are blinking... so does it mean i shouldnt kill mkfs.ext3 process? |
| 14:26.58 | wols_ | douchebag: you can kill and restart it if you like |
| 14:27.03 | echo-area | douchebag: killall mkfs.ext3 |
| 14:27.18 | ^Timo^ | good |
| 14:27.19 | ^Timo^ | ^^ |
| 14:27.20 | douchebag | is that safe for my hdd? |
| 14:27.31 | douchebag | physically speaking |
| 14:27.38 | sorear | douchebag: yes |
| 14:27.55 | sorear | douchebag: mkfs just writes data, it doesn't do anything fancy to the disk |
| 14:28.11 | echo-area | what should apt-key list look like? |
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| 14:28.21 | sorear | echo-area: /msg dpkg no public key |
| 14:28.23 | echo-area | the result of executing "apt-key list" |
| 14:28.28 | wols_ | douchebag: it's just like you'd stop a "format c:\" on windows |
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| 14:29.04 | douchebag | wols_: it cannot somehow damage my new hdd can it? |
| 14:29.07 | douchebag | if i stop the process |
| 14:29.15 | wols_ | it can't |
| 14:29.17 | sorear | douchebag: no it can't |
| 14:29.26 | douchebag | alright thats good enough for me |
| 14:29.27 | wols_ | but you have to start it again to make the hdd usable |
| 14:29.34 | douchebag | yes indeed i will |
| 14:29.34 | wols_ | hdd isn't with a half finished filesystem |
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| 14:34.17 | dutchfish | spq, you are wrong: quotarpc is a wrapper for rpc.rquotad, see: http://www.netadmintools.com/html/8rpc.rquotad.man.html ... you cant change quota's on clients |
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| 14:35.37 | webczat | dpkg: what are you? |
| 14:35.37 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 14:35.52 | webczat | !blootbot |
| 14:35.52 | dpkg | blootbot is a severely mutiliated infobot, by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Blootbot debs are now in debian. You may not want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl. The latest svn has pgsql support. NOTE: blootbot development has officially stopped, and the project has been renamed back to infobot. Ask me about infobot. |
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| 14:36.22 | mrrcp | how can i see my server temp |
| 14:36.23 | mrrcp | ? |
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| 14:36.33 | wols_ | lm_sensors |
| 14:36.36 | wols_ | or acpi |
| 14:36.42 | mrrcp | in terminal |
| 14:36.49 | wols_ | yes |
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| 14:37.18 | mrrcp | whats the command |
| 14:37.24 | dutchfish | !sensors |
| 14:37.24 | dpkg | it has been said that lm_sensors is a hardware health monitoring package that performs CPU temperature, fan speed monitoring, etc. It is packaged in the lm-sensors package. #linux-sensors @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 14:37.42 | mirak | hi |
| 14:37.49 | mirak | how can I mount a initrd mage ? |
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| 14:38.16 | kLinGo | hi everybody |
| 14:38.22 | kLinGo | i have this problem |
| 14:38.22 | kLinGo | http://pastebin.com/m2b700ea6 |
| 14:38.24 | enouf | gunzip, cpio it, then mount |
| 14:38.28 | kLinGo | :(\ |
| 14:38.31 | wols_ | mirak: why would you? it's an archive |
| 14:39.05 | wols_ | kLinGo: use an official mirror |
| 14:39.29 | kLinGo | wols_, where can i get i list of them |
| 14:39.31 | enouf | echo-area: it looks like gpg --list-keys (though not entirely the same in most cases) |
| 14:39.46 | kLinGo | wols_, i tried ftp.debian.org but got the same error |
| 14:39.46 | wols_ | !tell kLinGo about mirrors |
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| 14:40.34 | kLinGo | wols_, something like this |
| 14:40.34 | kLinGo | http://ftp.sk.debian.org/debian/ |
| 14:40.41 | kLinGo | from this site ? http://www.debian.org/mirror/official |
| 14:40.45 | gamag | how can I get the source code of evince. I have found the cause of the evince bug, I want to see how to fix it |
| 14:40.55 | wols_ | kLinGo: that's not the full deb line |
| 14:41.00 | wols_ | !tell kLinGo about sources.list |
| 14:41.13 | wols_ | gamag: apt-get source |
| 14:41.17 | enouf | apt-get source pkgname (if debian pkgs it) |
| 14:42.42 | enouf | gamag: note; a build will fail without 'build-dep' and whatever else like build-essential, -dev pkgs are needed |
| 14:42.47 | gamag | well the bug has been reported already: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430773 |
| 14:43.03 | PythonNinja | where does apt put the source when you dl a source pkg? |
| 14:43.18 | enouf | iirc, in /root |
| 14:43.28 | dutchfish | PythonNinja, curent dir |
| 14:43.32 | gamag | 430773 doesn't seem to be resolved. so i guess I can work on it and submit a patch. would it be accepted? |
| 14:43.32 | enouf | i could be mistaken though |
| 14:43.37 | PythonNinja | dutchfish: fantastic! :D |
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| 14:44.46 | microtux | hi |
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| 14:47.36 | bicycledaave | hi all. I'm installing debian using netinst CD. But every time it freezes at "select and install software" at 5%, only say "please wait...". why? and what can I do? thanks |
| 14:47.51 | Ronin | bicycledaave: wait? |
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| 14:48.05 | microtux | !resolvconf |
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| 14:48.57 | wols_ | bicycledaave: don't select and install any software. you can do it easily after install at any time using tasksel or simply aptitude |
| 14:49.14 | wols_ | bicycledaave: with aptitude you then get better erropr messages too |
| 14:49.30 | bicycledaave | wols_: you mean after the base system and tasksel nothing? |
| 14:49.46 | wols_ | bicycledaave: do not install anything via tasksel |
| 14:49.50 | wols_ | base only |
| 14:50.27 | gamag | hey! i have complaint. who should I complain? |
| 14:50.31 | dutchfish | bicycledaave, just 1 q, is your netinst-image recent? |
| 14:50.53 | gamag | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430773 tells that evince bug is fixed in 2.20-1. why my lenny upgrade didn't install this fixed version? |
| 14:50.54 | Ronin | gamag: complaints dept is over there > |
| 14:50.57 | wols_ | gamag: write to santa. he's popular this time of year |
| 14:51.08 | wols_ | !info evince lenny |
| 14:51.11 | dpkg | evince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.3-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 1379 kB, Installed size: 4780 kB |
| 14:51.22 | bicycledaave | wols_: then how to boot into it? will it add an grub entry? Or I have to add it manually? |
| 14:51.27 | gamag | how will I get the 2.20-1 versoin then usng aptitude? |
| 14:51.32 | wols_ | bicycledaave: it will add one |
| 14:51.35 | enouf | bicycledaave: is that an Old install CD? |
| 14:51.42 | greenmang0 | !info x3100 etch |
| 14:51.55 | enouf | i recall a "5%" issue/hang |
| 14:51.58 | spq | i cant modify quotas on an nfs share - setquota: Not all specified mountpoints are using quota. - but i have running the rpc.quotad on the server with the -S flag. |
| 14:52.01 | enouf | a while back though |
| 14:52.16 | Ronin | !5% |
| 14:52.17 | dpkg | 0.05 |
| 14:52.20 | Ronin | or not |
| 14:52.22 | enouf | heh |
| 14:52.24 | dutchfish | spq, you are wrong: quotarpc is a wrapper for rpc.rquotad, see: http://www.netadmintools.com/html/8rpc.rquotad.man.html ... you cant change quota's on clients |
| 14:52.27 | wols_ | gamag: it's in sid |
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| 14:52.32 | enouf | dpkg where were you? |
| 14:52.32 | dpkg | I was getting some action with the botchicks! WooYEAH! I got me some NOOKIE! |
| 14:52.37 | jakub_ | hi please, if i buying SATA disc and i have only one cable 4 SATA (power cable) from power supply, can i buy some duplicator or replicator :) |
| 14:52.38 | enouf | ;-) |
| 14:52.49 | dutchfish | spq, but you can change quotas on the server remotely |
| 14:52.53 | jakub_ | because i have once disc in my computer now |
| 14:52.54 | spq | dutchfish, why does the manpage state the -S argument enables the clients to do that? |
| 14:53.02 | spq | dutchfish, that is what i meant |
| 14:53.03 | bicycledaave | enouf: wols_ : it's the newest netinst CD, though I'm having it on harddisk |
| 14:53.10 | wols_ | jakub_: you can buy a molex to sata hdd cable for a buck or so |
| 14:53.14 | spq | dutchfish, client in this case can mean both... |
| 14:53.29 | gamag | wols_: can I just quickly insert the sid repo in sources.list, do aptitude update, aptitude install evince and then quickly change it back to lenny repo and do aptitude update so that I don't break anything? |
| 14:53.30 | enouf | "having it on harddisk" (whatever that means) |
| 14:53.40 | bicycledaave | as ISO file |
| 14:53.41 | jakub_ | wols_: i have only 1 power cable from supply, i need more i need 2 for the second disc, can i duplicate it as on normal supply for IDE :? |
| 14:53.54 | enouf | that's nice, learn debootstrap |
| 14:53.54 | wols_ | jakub_: yes |
| 14:54.03 | dutchfish | spq, for that i consider it bad practise (security), why do you want his anyway? |
| 14:54.08 | wols_ | gamag: no |
| 14:54.13 | jakub_ | wols_ thx |
| 14:54.18 | gamag | wols_: oh :( |
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| 14:54.31 | wols_ | !tell gamag about simple sid backport |
| 14:54.35 | spq | dutchfish, but now im hanging - i can see the quotas on the client(the nfs-client, not the clients on the nfs-client) |
| 14:54.49 | bicycledaave | enouf: ok. I can google it. "debootstrap", thanks |
| 14:55.08 | spq | dutchfish, i just want it because i else would have to modify some scriptes to use ssh and modify the quotas by this - thats bad practise too! |
| 14:55.16 | enouf | bicycledaave: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 14:55.17 | gamag | wols_: dpkg says I must build it using build-dep? is the build step necessary? |
| 14:55.18 | dutchfish | spq, at the top of my had, re-export on the server? |
| 14:55.45 | spq | dutchfish, already done |
| 14:55.51 | gamag | wols_: is it because aptitude install evince might depend on newer versions of libraries which are not in lenny? |
| 14:55.55 | bicycledaave | enouf: OK. thanks a lot :) |
| 14:55.57 | dutchfish | spq, remount on the client? |
| 14:56.01 | zicho | how do i change the default language in gtk-applications? |
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| 14:56.11 | wols_ | gamag: yes |
| 14:56.15 | wols_ | !tell zicho about locales |
| 14:56.27 | spq | dutchfish, does not help |
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| 14:57.30 | dutchfish | spq, look at this, maybe there are bugs in it: http://www.filewatcher.com/p/quota_3.12-6_i386.deb.419002/etc/init.d/quotarpc.html |
| 14:58.22 | dutchfish | spq, so far thats all i know about it, i dont use it myself, there are better ways |
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| 14:59.43 | spq | dutchfish, there are but i fixed them |
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| 14:59.56 | spq | i overwrite some variables in the defaults file |
| 15:00.05 | dutchfish | spq, diff? can you pastebin? |
| 15:00.09 | zicho | i set my locales to en but it didnt make a difference. |
| 15:00.23 | mirak | is there a way to have a list of all installed packages so I can reinstall all of them in one shot with apt-get ? |
| 15:00.42 | spq | grep -q '^[^#]*quota' /etc/fstab |
| 15:00.45 | spq | should be |
| 15:00.55 | mirak | cpio extracted a ppc initrd.img in /, and it was a ppc image so everything is killed |
| 15:00.56 | spq | ( grep -q '^[^#]*quota' /etc/fstab || grep -q '^[^#]*quota' /etc/mtab ) |
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| 15:01.18 | SpookyET | hi |
| 15:01.40 | SpookyET | Should /opt be a directory or a symlink to /usr/local/opt |
| 15:01.56 | spq | because i mount my mountpoints with heartbeat, the fstab is relatively clean |
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| 15:01.57 | stew | SpookyET: whatever you want |
| 15:02.10 | SpookyET | I'm talking about the standards |
| 15:02.42 | stew | SpookyET: the standard is that those are there for you as the administrator to do whatever you want with |
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| 15:03.26 | dutchfish | spq, you are talking in-a-lan solution right? |
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| 15:04.12 | SpookyET | stew: My / is only 200MiB since you do not need more conf files. I forgot about /opt. |
| 15:04.24 | epsilon | are files in a .deb package compressed? |
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| 15:05.33 | mirak | is there a way to save ALL my installed package list, so I can reinstall them on the new install I will do ? |
| 15:05.39 | stew | epsilon: a .deb is a ar archive that contains two .tar.gzs and nothing else, so everything is compressed |
| 15:05.39 | jelly-home | SpookyET: /opt can be a separate mount point if you need it big |
| 15:06.04 | stew | SpookyET: sure, or /opt can by a symlink to /usr/local/opt if you like |
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| 15:07.40 | stew | mirak: "aptitude search '~i!~M' -F%p" ; or /msg dpkg selections |
| 15:08.35 | tralala | epsilon, man deb |
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| 15:09.38 | erikja | !sound |
| 15:09.38 | dpkg | sound is probably ask me about <alsa checklist>, <alsa one-liner>, <ac97>, <audio>, <dmix>, <esound> and <arts>. For sarge go to http://wiki.debian.org/UseSoundCard |
| 15:09.55 | erikja | !ac97 |
| 15:09.55 | dpkg | There's no universal driver for every single motherboard that uses ac97 audio. ac97 is just the codec, you need a driver for your audio chip. For OSS, this is usually either i810_audio or via82cxxx_audio; for ALSA, it's usually one of snd-intel8x0 (see also <intel8x0>), snd-au8810 or snd-via82xx. Use lspci to check. |
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| 15:12.34 | kLinGo | hello |
| 15:12.41 | kLinGo | i have this problem |
| 15:12.41 | kLinGo | http://pastebin.com/m6ea0c7e8 |
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| 15:14.44 | mrrcp | hmm |
| 15:14.49 | mrrcp | u have DNS setup right |
| 15:14.59 | kLinGo | how can i check it |
| 15:15.13 | kLinGo | i did not configure net when installing |
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| 15:15.45 | kLinGo | now i only added iface eth1 dhcp to /etc/interfaces |
| 15:15.54 | kLinGo | so i got dhcp working |
| 15:15.58 | mirak | stew: aptitude is dead |
| 15:16.15 | dutchfish | !aptitude |
| 15:16.15 | dpkg | well, aptitude is "the preferred program for package management from console. aptitude supports most command line operations of apt-get and has proven to be better at dependency resolution than apt-get." (4.0 Release Notes). A mostly drop-in replacement for apt-get. Don't mix use of apt-get and aptitude. See <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu>, http://tinyurl.com/2ebd4m http://tinyurl.com/2hw8nx http://tinyurl.com/2y783t |
| 15:16.25 | kLinGo | !? |
| 15:16.32 | mirak | stew: I find a way with dpkg --get-selections on the web |
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| 15:17.19 | kLinGo | mrrcp: i can ping those hosts by name.... |
| 15:17.45 | kLinGo | how can i setup proxy |
| 15:17.46 | kLinGo | ? |
| 15:17.51 | kLinGo | !proxy |
| 15:17.51 | dpkg | somebody said proxy was This is commonly a form of Internet security. You can use a proxy or proxy server to pass data between your internal network and the Internet. A machine on your network sends a request to the proxy. The proxy sends the request to a server on the Internet. Thus, it stands in for the computer on your network. The server on the Internet never knows that the request is coming from anywhere but the proxy. Thus 100 machines on your ... |
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| 15:17.54 | dvs | kLinGo: did you add "auto eth1" to /etc/interfaces as well? |
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| 15:18.05 | valdyn | kLinGo: depends on your desktop environment |
| 15:18.16 | valdyn | kLinGo: and the browser you use |
| 15:18.19 | kLinGo | dvs: yes |
| 15:18.43 | kLinGo | valdyn: no browser, no desktop, i am on the command line |
| 15:18.54 | valdyn | kLinGo: proxy for what then? |
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| 15:19.17 | kLinGo | now i know i need to setup proxy for my network |
| 15:19.21 | valdyn | kLinGo: when saying "proxy" people usually imply http proxy |
| 15:19.28 | valdyn | kLinGo: no, nonsense |
| 15:19.37 | valdyn | kLinGo: there's no "generic" proxy thing |
| 15:19.56 | kLinGo | ok...so i can configure apt-get to use a proxy |
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| 15:19.56 | kLinGo | ? |
| 15:19.58 | valdyn | kLinGo: maybe you mean gateway, but that's setup by dhcp automagically |
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| 15:20.08 | valdyn | kLinGo: yes you can |
| 15:20.10 | Torgo | Would someone kindly point me to the correct sources.list line for security in woody? This isn't found: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-archive/ woody/updates main contrib non-free |
| 15:20.17 | kLinGo | ok...i'll try |
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| 15:20.20 | valdyn | kLinGo: that'S a http proxy |
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| 15:20.42 | petemc | Torgo: woody doesnt get updates any more, sarge wont in a month or two either |
| 15:20.43 | mirak | what is the command to flush the harddrives ? |
| 15:20.59 | mirak | I need to do a hardreboot |
| 15:21.06 | valdyn | kLinGo: http_proxy=http://url.of.proxy:portnumber/ aptitude |
| 15:21.17 | Torgo | thanks, petemc, but this is a very old machine, and I want the latest woody before I (try to) upgrade. |
| 15:21.23 | petemc | mirak: sync? |
| 15:21.30 | petemc | Torgo: you're out of luck |
| 15:21.31 | mirak | petemc: thanks |
| 15:21.52 | petemc | Torgo: check the release notes before you upgrade, theres a few gotchas |
| 15:21.55 | valdyn | Torgo: what'S the point of using an ancient installer? |
| 15:22.11 | mirak | petemc: will it clean the buffers ? |
| 15:22.16 | petemc | man sync |
| 15:22.21 | Torgo | Nothing more recent works on this machine. It has no CD, and the sarge boot floppies don't work, but woody's do. |
| 15:22.26 | mirak | I can't umount or reboot cleanly |
| 15:22.43 | petemc | mirak: check dmesg/syslog/messages |
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| 15:23.08 | petemc | Torgo: try etch |
| 15:23.09 | mirak | petemc: for doing what ? |
| 15:23.21 | Torgo | petemc, does etch even have boot floppies? |
| 15:23.26 | petemc | for knowing whats wrong with your computer |
| 15:23.28 | petemc | Torgo: yes |
| 15:23.37 | Torgo | cool |
| 15:23.55 | Torgo | works on a 486? |
| 15:23.59 | petemc | yeah |
| 15:24.02 | dutchfish | !archives |
| 15:24.02 | dpkg | somebody said archive was a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Maybe: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive or even http://snapshot.debian.net, or http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 15:24.05 | valdyn | i would install on a "real" computer and just move the disk around.. |
| 15:24.11 | wols_ | Torgo: how much RAM do you have on the machine? |
| 15:24.27 | valdyn | Torgo: ^^^ , but that has its own pitfalls too |
| 15:24.38 | Torgo | wols, I have 36MB RAM |
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| 15:25.14 | mirak | petemc: anyway it's over, mount doesn't work as well ... |
| 15:25.16 | wols_ | not good. etch says it wants 48MB to install. maybe you can get away with only 36 nit I'm not sure |
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| 15:26.04 | Torgo | right. So I was trying woody, just to get it running. Do I really need the security line? The main woody source seems fine. |
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| 15:26.40 | wols_ | woody doesn't get any new security fixed. so upgrading security once is enough |
| 15:27.02 | ginoman | Hey I'm running debian testing in i386, kernel 2.6.22-2-686 and when I run aptitude upgrade or apt-get upgrade, I get these messages: http://pastebin.com/d581f7314 |
| 15:27.18 | ginoman | I have a feeling that's not a good thing |
| 15:27.22 | ginoman | can anyone help me? |
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| 15:27.40 | Torgo | wols_, I'm doing the first boot apt configuration, manually editing sources.list (so it doesn't try to get stable). Should I have a line for security patches in the file? |
| 15:27.55 | wols_ | Torgo: yes |
| 15:28.07 | Torgo | wols_, ok, what should that be? |
| 15:28.08 | valdyn | ginoman: how did you truncate all those files? |
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| 15:28.24 | wols_ | ginoman: reinstall those libs and do a thorough fsck and SMARFT surface check |
| 15:28.24 | ginoman | I don't know |
| 15:28.33 | wols_ | !tell Torgo about sources.list |
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| 15:28.43 | petemc | Torgo: there are no security updates for woody, so no |
| 15:28.47 | valdyn | ginoman: dpkg -S on each of those files and aptitude reinstall the package |
| 15:29.02 | valdyn | ginoman: you can run ldconfig as root yourself to check for remaining issues |
| 15:29.10 | ginoman | thanks |
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| 15:29.38 | ginoman | hold on.. how do you check the log of a shutdown |
| 15:29.40 | Torgo | petemc, I know there are no NEW security patches, but if those are now all in the last regular update, are you saying don't bother with that? |
| 15:29.40 | wols_ | petemc: are all security updates ever done for it in the woody main reps now? |
| 15:30.03 | ginoman | I thought I saw something |
| 15:30.12 | petemc | wols_: oldstable only gets support for a year following the release of the next stable |
| 15:30.22 | wols_ | petemc: that's not what I asked |
| 15:30.36 | petemc | there are no updates |
| 15:30.46 | petemc | your question makes sense |
| 15:30.51 | petemc | no sense |
| 15:31.05 | petemc | oh, it does |
| 15:31.07 | valdyn | wols_: that is unlikely |
| 15:31.20 | Torgo | ok all, here's the line: deb http://security.debian.org/ woody/updates main contrib non-free |
| 15:31.32 | valdyn | wols_: main reps should only contain up to the lates rX release |
| 15:31.34 | wols_ | valdyn: hence why I thought one should do at least one security update. after that one can remove the security line for woody of course |
| 15:31.37 | Torgo | I had ...ian.org/debian-archive/ before |
| 15:31.41 | petemc | wols_: excuse me, hungover - working at a diminished capacity |
| 15:31.42 | echo-area | enouf: I have problem executing 'gpt --list-keys' in a chroot-ed envorionment in the livecd, but how to make apt trust my current source? It was trusted, but after I update the source it is not now. |
| 15:31.46 | echo-area | enouf: Thanks |
| 15:31.48 | valdyn | wols_: yea, i agree |
| 15:31.55 | DustyBin | ive setup a Maildir with a courier-imap tool in my users home directory, but when i try and login my log complains: chdir Maildir: No such file or directory. When i installed courier-imap with apt-get it didnt ask me about Maildirs, where are the Maildir settings? |
| 15:32.19 | wols_ | DustyBin: you create them with maildirmake |
| 15:32.24 | Torgo | thanks, all. "Apt is now configured" |
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| 15:33.06 | DustyBin | yes ive already created the Maildir in my users home directory using maildirmake.courier maildir |
| 15:33.20 | DustyBin | but courier-imap doesnt find it |
| 15:33.36 | wols_ | DustyBin: any reason for your special capitalization? |
| 15:33.54 | wols_ | and the place to change it would be courier config files in /etc most likely |
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| 15:34.15 | enouf | echo-area: i don't know, and i generally don't recommend toying with what are "trusted" sources (nor do i fully understand what you're trying to do) apologies |
| 15:34.41 | DustyBin | wols_: its ok, i should of used Maildir instead of maildir, its all working ok now :D |
| 15:35.11 | echo-area | enouf: OK. Thanks |
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| 15:35.47 | enouf | echo-area: i do have a script i used to import a file full of keys .. but i don;t know if that's what you want/need/require |
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| 15:36.13 | enouf | echo-area: er, not even a script, it's a simple while read line bash thing |
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| 15:37.23 | valdyn | DustyBin: "maildir" ?, its "Maildir" |
| 15:37.49 | valdyn | nm. |
| 15:38.05 | DustyBin | aye i noticed :D |
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| 15:38.42 | kLinGo | how can i add a system variable like http_proxy to be inited when starting linux? |
| 15:39.10 | kLinGo | where should i add the statement |
| 15:39.33 | kLinGo | for assign and exporting it |
| 15:39.34 | kLinGo | ? |
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| 15:40.18 | dutchfish | kLinGo, apt.conf |
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| 15:41.07 | kLinGo | dutchfish: i'm ok now with apt |
| 15:41.38 | kLinGo | i did set the proxy variable http_proxy and exported it. apt now works with respect to this vars |
| 15:42.16 | kLinGo | but ...after restart...the variable will be gone...so how to set-it up after every start ? |
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| 15:42.41 | echo-area | enouf: I'm fixing my system. The story was that after I updated the source from the server I set for a long time, aptitude told me that it would remove lots of packages I had already installed. Even important packages such as sysvinit-scripts, mount, e2fsprogs were removed. Then I found I could not boot into the system due to the lack of several fundamental packages. Perhaps I was stupid, the the system had broken and I'm not running the LiveCD, and |
| 15:43.39 | echo-area | enouf: Could you please tell me how I could get your scripts? Thank you very much |
| 15:43.51 | enouf | echo-area: your message got truncated (cut off) at this point "I'm not running the LiveCD, and" |
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| 15:44.44 | echo-area | Oh, that is "and chrooting into the "real" system to fix it" |
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| 15:45.10 | enouf | echo-area: IINM, debian-archive-keyring and apt-key as well as gpg are the needed items |
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| 15:46.45 | DustyBin | could one make a quick chroot using this: cp -r / system2 | chroot /system2 |
| 15:46.52 | dutchfish | Klowner, in apt.conf you need something like: Acquire {Retries "0"; HTTP {Proxy "http://proxy.myproxy.local:8080";};} |
| 15:47.17 | echo-area | enouf: :( I have all of them installed |
| 15:47.34 | echo-area | even after many packages are removed |
| 15:47.40 | enouf | echo-area: within the livecd, did you then remount your / as rw? (is it as such?) what's cat /proc/mounts tell you about it? perhaps you need to --bind mount /proc and /sys to your chroot, not sure |
| 15:47.42 | dutchfish | kLinGo, , in apt.conf you need something like: Acquire {Retries "0"; HTTP {Proxy "http://proxy.myproxy.local:8080";};} |
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| 15:47.50 | Klowner | dutchfish: was that for kLinGo? |
| 15:48.00 | dutchfish | Klowner, yes, sorry, oops |
| 15:48.06 | Klowner | dutchfish: heheh, no problem :) |
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| 15:48.38 | enouf | echo-area: so did you follow the directions dpkg told you in the factoids? (/msg dpkg no public key) etc? |
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| 15:49.58 | enouf | echo-area: i know some have run into issues when installing keys sometimes as root, and sometimes as user |
| 15:50.51 | enouf | echo-area: for ex; $ "gpg --list-keys" shows me contents of /home/username/.gnupg/pubring.gpg |
| 15:51.23 | enouf | whereas this points to an /etc file $ sudo apt-key list |
| 15:51.25 | enouf | /etc/apt/trusted.gpg |
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| 15:52.59 | enouf | basically, running apt-key list as a user gives a error gpg: can't access `/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg': Permission denied |
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| 15:53.20 | echo-area | So "gpg" fails because I did not mount the directories correctly |
| 15:53.25 | SpeedyG | hm, dutch debian mirror down? :( |
| 15:53.29 | enouf | even though the bin is in /usr/bin/apt-key |
| 15:53.39 | dutchfish | enouf, what about dpkg-reconfigure apt ? |
| 15:53.53 | enouf | dutchfish: never heard of it ;-) |
| 15:54.08 | dutchfish | ;) |
| 15:54.10 | enouf | though configure-debian should show that - i don't recall ever seeing that ;-) |
| 15:54.27 | echo-area | but when I run "apt-key list" as root, it shows some contents |
| 15:55.23 | enouf | echo-area: as i said, permissions are needed here too to run apt-key list successfully |
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| 15:56.14 | dutchfish | enouf, on my system it rechecks all keys, for you info |
| 15:56.20 | enouf | this is why; |
| 15:56.21 | enouf | $ ls -l /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg |
| 15:56.21 | enouf | -rw------- 1 root root 1200 2007-05-27 14:46 /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg |
| 15:56.58 | enouf | dutchfish: yeah, my system might be a tad screwy :-P |
| 15:57.00 | echo-area | enouf: I see. Thanks. |
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| 15:57.54 | echo-area | If I'm wanting to use the testing branch, should the content of /etc/debian_version be "lenny/sid" currently? |
| 15:58.55 | enouf | echo-area: the typical command for installing keys uses a | to sudo and '-' (as stdin) so that a separate env/process isn't created - IINM |
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| 15:59.25 | echo-area | It looks like the packages I'm downloading now are older than I installed previously. |
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| 15:59.41 | enouf | yeah, but editing that file directly likely won't have any affect, there's also issue and issue.net now |
| 15:59.57 | netgear | how does one see what driver is attached to a device in debian |
| 16:00.04 | enouf | apt-cache policy will as well as sources.list |
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| 16:00.17 | enouf | and any pinning, apt.conf settings etc |
| 16:00.21 | retard | did anyone install wine 0.9.5 from sources? |
| 16:00.32 | endast | Hi, im trying to install a program from source (no .deb) it compiles just fine but when i run make install it says: foobar:~/reflector# make install |
| 16:00.32 | endast | Install QoS Reflector |
| 16:00.32 | endast | make: /sbin/chkconfig: Command not found |
| 16:00.32 | endast | make: *** [install] Error 127 |
| 16:00.32 | endast | foobar:~/reflector# |
| 16:00.32 | retard | i get segmentation fault or something... |
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| 16:00.41 | cahoot | no |
| 16:00.50 | enouf | netgear: many ways, which device? |
| 16:00.53 | mutante | how come etch installer for amd64 USB stick image is 265MB but the same in lenny only 16MB ? i just bought a new USB stick cause the one i had was only 128MB and now i dont even need it :P |
| 16:01.05 | rogier | I see that the 2.6.23 kernel is now in the repositories. But the k7 flavour is not yet. Is this intentional or should I just wait a bit longer ? |
| 16:01.05 | netgear | enouf: 3g pcmcia card |
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| 16:01.14 | netgear | its usbserial device |
| 16:01.16 | echo-area | enouf: Got it. |
| 16:01.16 | retard | glibc detected *** rundll32.exe: free(): invalid pointer |
| 16:01.19 | asg | enouf: Debian doesn't have chkconfig, that's redhatcrap |
| 16:01.23 | asg | eep |
| 16:01.34 | enouf | netgear: what's lspci -nn | grep -i pcmcia say? |
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| 16:01.42 | enouf | netgear: /msg dpkg which driver |
| 16:01.54 | netgear | nothing its a usb device |
| 16:02.05 | netgear | there i just get option and device id etc |
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| 16:02.19 | netgear | i dont get anything in syslog or messages |
| 16:02.20 | cahoot | lsusb? |
| 16:02.22 | mick_home | anyone ever used the busybox bts? -- how the hell do i comment on a bug once i've logged in? -- in specific: http://bugs.uclibc.org/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=1238 <-- i want to reopen this since i can reproduce it in debian *with* makeinfo installed |
| 16:02.24 | enouf | asg: huh? erm, we do have a chkconfig, but that's besides the point, i never mentioned anything about it ;-)\ |
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| 16:02.46 | asg | enouf: for endast who got the boot for pasting, my mistake |
| 16:02.58 | enouf | Nighteye: update-pciids, and update-usbids |
| 16:03.01 | enouf | netgear: |
| 16:03.04 | enouf | i meant |
| 16:03.19 | enouf | asg: ahh .. ;-P |
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| 16:03.24 | netgear | and /proc/bus/usb/devices also shows that one device has no driver attached |
| 16:03.41 | yos872 | hi |
| 16:03.46 | enouf | netgear: pcmciautils installed? |
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| 16:04.02 | enouf | er.. or will that not work with usb ,, wait, wtf? |
| 16:04.02 | netgear | dont know i will need to reboot to see that |
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| 16:04.17 | enouf | is it pcmcia? or usb? lol |
| 16:04.22 | yos872 | Hi |
| 16:04.37 | netgear | its a pcmcia card, but according to linux its a usb-serial device |
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| 16:04.44 | enouf | whoa |
| 16:04.54 | netgear | i also see it in lsusb and not in pcmcia |
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| 16:05.15 | enouf | is it a pcmcia card that has usb ports? |
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| 16:05.31 | enouf | maybe it's expresscard? |
| 16:05.33 | endast | Hi i'm trying to install a program from source (no .deb) it compiles just fine but when i run make instal it says: |
| 16:05.34 | endast | foobar:~/reflector# make install |
| 16:05.34 | endast | Install QoS Reflector |
| 16:05.34 | endast | make: /sbin/chkconfig: Command not found |
| 16:05.34 | endast | make: *** [install] Error 127 |
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| 16:05.36 | enouf | so PCIe |
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| 16:05.45 | netgear | no, pcmcia 3g device with flash side which have drivers on it -- zero cd |
| 16:05.53 | enouf | asg: attack, he;s back ;-) |
| 16:06.05 | yos872 | I have question, how can I make root the only user who can delete or copy from a folder? and all other can read |
| 16:06.06 | yos872 | I have question, how can I make root the only user who can delete or copy from a folder? and all other can read |
| 16:06.19 | asg | enouf: hah |
| 16:06.20 | enouf | netgear: i have no idea when it comes to go go gadget gizmos gidget |
| 16:06.27 | asg | endast: Debian doesn't have chkconfig, that's redhatcrap |
| 16:06.36 | enouf | !win asg |
| 16:06.36 | dpkg | Congratulations, asg! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 16:06.44 | cahoot | if you can read you can copy - no? |
| 16:06.53 | asg | could be worse |
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| 16:07.05 | epsilon | yos872: chmod 755, chown root:root |
| 16:07.31 | enouf | (yeah, should've prized you instead O.o) |
| 16:07.46 | asg | enouf: a fruitsmite might have been good too |
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| 16:08.11 | enouf | ahh tutti-fruiti, forgot about those - where's my head lately! |
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| 16:08.24 | asg | enouf: not enough booze |
| 16:08.29 | enouf | right |
| 16:08.31 | endast | asg: Yes i know. But how do i replace it? and with what? |
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| 16:08.59 | asg | endast: edit the makefile to make it do the right thing. Debian has update-rc.d or rcconf. |
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| 16:09.29 | Ronin | dont want anyone going blind after all |
| 16:09.42 | endast | asg: ok thanks I will try that |
| 16:10.00 | enouf | Ronin: yeah, we don't want our .. oh nm (something about hairy nipples O.o) |
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| 16:10.31 | sorear | Grain alcohol is mostly harmless, it's the wood alcohol you need to fear |
| 16:10.55 | cahoot | wow |
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| 16:11.45 | dutchfish | sorear, specially when a bit diluted with ether, like the oekrain's do |
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| 16:11.53 | cahoot | medevial science |
| 16:12.26 | CppIsWeird | is there any kind of software that pretends to be a serial port for linux? I'm experimenting with serial programming on a computer that doesn't have a serial port. |
| 16:13.18 | dutchfish | cahoot, medevial would be drinking absint ;) |
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| 16:14.03 | cahoot | unless of course he meant ethanol as opposed to methanol |
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| 17:58.17 | hoxu | most melted already :'( |
| 17:58.21 | abrotman | yay! |
| 17:58.24 | abrotman | apt: hi |
| 17:58.24 | apt | hello, abrotman |
| 17:58.27 | hoxu | !stawlker abrotman |
| 17:58.36 | hoxu | oh darn. |
| 17:59.25 | abrotman | are you going to misspell everything? |
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| 18:00.27 | hoxu | do you have to take all the opportunities to kick a fallen man? :\ |
| 18:01.14 | abrotman | i'm from the states |
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| 18:05.19 | hoxu | &who would marry abrotman |
| 18:05.19 | aptitude | who the hell knows eh |
| 18:05.29 | abrotman | ok |
| 18:05.43 | abrotman | aptitude: what does hoxu pay you for |
| 18:05.44 | aptitude | often hoxu begs for anal stimulation, abrotman, but I'm open to suggestions! |
| 18:06.02 | cloakable | o.o |
| 18:06.12 | abrotman | hoxu: there's more where that came from! |
| 18:06.16 | linnewbye | hello there, for intel core 2 duo machines what would you recommend installing ? the x86 version or the amd64 ? |
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| 18:06.37 | xand | linnewbye: amd64, I'm sure others will disagree though |
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| 18:06.40 | hoxu | aptitude, what does abrotman pay you for? |
| 18:06.41 | aptitude | sometimes abrotman begs for foot massages, hoxu, but I've really had enough... |
| 18:06.51 | abrotman | copycat! |
| 18:07.18 | linnewbye | xand: why ? , are there any downsides when installing amd64 on intel core 2 duo ? |
| 18:07.29 | abrotman | linnewbye: flash/java are two i can think of |
| 18:07.42 | xand | flash and java both work for me |
| 18:07.48 | xand | !nspluginwrapper |
| 18:07.58 | xand | bah. |
| 18:07.58 | abrotman | no dpkg |
| 18:08.04 | greenmang0 | !debian pastebin |
| 18:08.07 | xand | what's the issue with java? |
| 18:08.07 | abrotman | i didn't think there was a java browser plugin |
| 18:08.10 | abrotman | &pasete |
| 18:08.11 | abrotman | &paste |
| 18:08.12 | aptitude | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 18:08.15 | hoxu | abrotman, ha ! |
| 18:08.17 | xand | oh, don't care about that ;) |
| 18:08.27 | abrotman | xand: he might |
| 18:08.31 | xand | does nspluginwrapper work for java? |
| 18:08.39 | abrotman | NFC .. i don't use it |
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| 18:08.48 | jelousbuddy | who is ratbert? |
| 18:09.00 | abrotman | jelousbuddy: not in this channel.. how would we know? |
| 18:09.21 | xand | jelousbuddy: why don't you ask him. |
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| 18:09.29 | linnewbye | xand: have you also installed the x86 version before amd64 ? is there any noticeable loss o performance when using x86 on intel core 2 duo ? |
| 18:09.32 | abrotman | unless you mean the character in Dilbert .. in which case .. ask google/wikipedia |
| 18:09.45 | xand | linnewbye: not on the same hardware |
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| 18:11.49 | De_Mon | where can I go to find out what A records use to exist for a domain? |
| 18:11.52 | xand | abrotman: he's asking the same in #perl :( |
| 18:12.00 | jelousbuddy | i am lilo |
| 18:12.06 | De_Mon | some sort of dns archive? |
| 18:12.07 | abrotman | jelousbuddy: please don't do that |
| 18:12.27 | jelousbuddy | <abrotman> why? |
| 18:12.29 | linnewbye | ok, now there another issue i want to ask, i've downloaded the latest amd64 dvd, 4.0r1, but the installer detects only one of my two sata disks, any ideeas how can i troubleshoot this installer issue ? i have 2 sata 2 seagate disks @ 320 GB |
| 18:12.40 | abrotman | jelousbuddy: because it's a cruel thing to do |
| 18:13.09 | wols_ | linnewbye: connected how? |
| 18:13.27 | greenmang0 | I am not able to setup screen resolution on Etch |
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| 18:13.39 | greenmang0 | wols_: |
| 18:13.40 | linnewbye | wols_: not raid |
| 18:13.48 | Nyle | I need to get a litra cola |
| 18:13.50 | xand | greenmang0: what do you mean? |
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| 18:13.54 | snowbird | how do i enable lightscribe |
| 18:14.00 | wols_ | linnewbye: that nice but you aren't telling us how they are connected which is what I asked |
| 18:14.11 | greenmang0 | xand: http://paste.debian.net/44439 < my xorg.conf |
| 18:14.13 | Nyle | snowbird: hi |
| 18:14.17 | snowbird | hello |
| 18:14.20 | Nyle | snowbird: longo time no see |
| 18:14.25 | snowbird | yeah |
| 18:14.33 | snowbird | dont rember nicks |
| 18:14.34 | abrotman | greenmang0: you only have one specified |
| 18:14.40 | Nyle | stoned |
| 18:14.41 | greenmang0 | though it's showing 1280x768.. I get 1024x768 |
| 18:14.46 | wols_ | greenmang0: what videocard do you have? |
| 18:14.55 | xand | greenmang0: is it meant to be 1280x768? what happens? error messages? |
| 18:14.57 | linnewbye | wols_: just a sec, let me open the case and see |
| 18:15.01 | snowbird | ahh ok stoned howdy |
| 18:15.10 | greenmang0 | xand: no error messages |
| 18:15.11 | Nyle | thats right, recognize. |
| 18:15.14 | Nyle | ! :D |
| 18:15.16 | snowbird | nyle does light scribe work? got new burner |
| 18:15.21 | Nyle | I have never used it |
| 18:15.26 | snowbird | kk |
| 18:15.31 | Nyle | or owned a ls burner |
| 18:15.41 | Nyle | or even wanted to own one |
| 18:16.12 | wols_ | snowbird: how about googling for it? |
| 18:16.13 | snowbird | ok |
| 18:16.24 | snowbird | says lacie is neded |
| 18:16.32 | wols_ | snowbird: no it does not |
| 18:16.47 | snowbird | convert rpms to .deb |
| 18:17.08 | chemist | is there a linux equivalent to ms project? |
| 18:17.10 | snowbird | maybe k3b will id disk |
| 18:17.17 | greenmang0 | xand: there are no error messages anywhere |
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| 18:17.23 | abrotman | chemist: yes .. moment |
| 18:17.29 | xand | greenmang0: so the problem is what exactly? |
| 18:17.42 | xand | greenmang0: oh... "vesa" driver is rather limited |
| 18:17.45 | abrotman | chemist: wait .. whic part of project? |
| 18:17.50 | xand | greenmang0: what video card is it? |
| 18:18.14 | chemist | abrotman: all of it? |
| 18:18.28 | greenmang0 | xand: oh.. just now google told me that " my card Intel 965GM x3100 " currently supported only with Ubuntu Gutsy |
| 18:18.30 | abrotman | chemist: well .. i don't know what "all of it" entails .. |
| 18:18.42 | abrotman | chemist: http://live.gnome.org/Planner (which is packaged in debian) |
| 18:18.44 | wols_ | greenmang0: wrong |
| 18:18.54 | xand | greenmang0: your google results lie |
| 18:18.55 | greenmang0 | and FC8 , Mandriva 2008, opensuse10.3 beta |
| 18:19.14 | wols_ | greenmang0: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. use the "intel" driver |
| 18:19.15 | snowbird | wols can google |
| 18:19.30 | wols_ | snowbird: fix your spacekey please |
| 18:19.36 | snowbird | ok |
| 18:19.47 | greenmang0 | wols_: I did try that.. but there is no " intel " option |
| 18:19.55 | wols_ | greenmang0: i810? |
| 18:19.58 | xand | greenmang0: type it? |
| 18:20.10 | greenmang0 | wols_: yeah... i810 was there |
| 18:20.14 | abrotman | on etch it's i810 |
| 18:20.22 | chemist | abrotman: thanks |
| 18:20.40 | greenmang0 | abrotman: ok.. i am trying to install it on my laptop |
| 18:21.08 | greenmang0 | infact etch with kde is running properly but with wrong resolution |
| 18:21.39 | greenmang0 | wols_: let me try " i810" |
| 18:21.39 | abrotman | he might need that uhm |
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| 18:21.49 | wols_ | abrotman: i915resolution |
| 18:21.53 | abrotman | &info yes .. tahta |
| 18:21.54 | abrotman | whoops |
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| 18:22.11 | DawnLight | what am i gonna do without dpkg? |
| 18:22.18 | wols_ | abrotman: but with his current vesa it certainly won't work |
| 18:22.27 | wols_ | DawnLight: seppuku? |
| 18:22.30 | snowbird | Nyle, ready for xmas |
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| 18:22.37 | abrotman | wols_: yeah .. i know |
| 18:22.41 | DustyBin | im nearly there, to create the SSL certs i used: openssl req -new -x509 -nodes -out server.crt -keyout server.key apache errors with this: [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?) |
| 18:22.42 | abrotman | DawnLight: use aptitude |
| 18:22.52 | linnewbye | wols_: i have a asus p5b deluxe motherboard, http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=307&l4=0&model=1295&modelmenu=1, one disk is conected as mater on sata5 port, the other disk is conected as slave on sata4 port |
| 18:22.56 | abrotman | DustyBin: tons of hits on google to do that |
| 18:23.02 | DustyBin | ok |
| 18:23.16 | DustyBin | abrotman: i read all the internet last week |
| 18:23.35 | abrotman | you missed it :) |
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| 18:25.08 | linnewbye | wols_: the installer detects only the salve disk |
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| 18:25.38 | greenmang0 | wols_: now my xserver is not starting up ... only virtual consoles are up |
| 18:25.39 | wols_ | linnewbye: what controller is sata5? |
| 18:25.51 | wols_ | greenmang0: check your xorg log |
| 18:26.17 | linnewbye | wols_: i also installed other distro, like unbuntu for example which i know is based on debian and they detected my master disk succesfully |
| 18:26.40 | linnewbye | wols_: sata5 is a master controlles |
| 18:26.44 | xand | linnewbye: what version of debian? |
| 18:26.54 | linnewbye | xand: 40r1 , amd64 ver |
| 18:27.02 | wols_ | linnewbye: sata5 is BS. what controller is it? |
| 18:27.06 | xand | linnewbye: you probably need a newer kernel |
| 18:27.12 | greenmang0 | wols_: i810 no matching device section for instance found |
| 18:27.18 | greenmang0 | no devices detected |
| 18:27.20 | xand | the etch installer can't find my sata disks either |
| 18:27.36 | wols_ | greenmang0: you might need lenny perhaps :( |
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| 18:27.47 | wols_ | @kmuto |
| 18:27.49 | ravenbird | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 18:27.49 | linnewbye | wols_: what's BS ? :) |
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| 18:27.52 | wols_ | linnewbye: use that |
| 18:27.57 | wols_ | linnewbye: bullshit |
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| 18:28.33 | linnewbye | wols_: you mean this one : http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ ? |
| 18:28.40 | abrotman | linnewbye: update-pcidds .. try again |
| 18:28.45 | abrotman | the kmuto wouldn't help him |
| 18:28.54 | jelousbuddy | can i use my eyelid? |
| 18:28.55 | xand | abrotman: why wouldn't it? |
| 18:29.11 | abrotman | that's the kernel ..not hte xorg driver |
| 18:29.29 | wols_ | linnewbye: yes I mean this one |
| 18:29.35 | xand | abrotman: he's having issues with the etch installer not detecting the harddisk? |
| 18:29.41 | wols_ | abrotman: he's not greenmang0 either |
| 18:29.52 | abrotman | xand: i meant greenmang0 .. sorry .. /me runs and cries |
| 18:30.14 | wols_ | since dpkg is AWOL: how to remove gnome again? |
| 18:30.17 | linnewbye | wols_: but why are you calling it bullshit? P) |
| 18:30.35 | wols_ | linnewbye: cause what you said was bullshit |
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| 18:31.22 | tralala | linnewbye, there is no sata5 |
| 18:31.30 | linnewbye | oh |
| 18:31.38 | linnewbye | sata5 is the port |
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| 18:31.53 | wols_ | linnewbye: did I ask you about the port? |
| 18:31.54 | linnewbye | that's what it's called int the manual |
| 18:31.59 | greenmang0 | xand: so... that google result was proper |
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| 18:32.01 | tralala | you've got 5 sata ports? |
| 18:32.06 | greenmang0 | wols_: ? |
| 18:32.09 | tralala | what's on the other 4? |
| 18:32.10 | linnewbye | tralala: 6 sata |
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| 18:32.23 | xand | greenmang0: no it wasn't |
| 18:32.27 | ^Timo^ | Hi |
| 18:32.46 | greenmang0 | xand: how? |
| 18:32.57 | abrotman | &remove gnome |
| 18:32.58 | aptitude | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about <install gnome>), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 18:33.03 | ^Timo^ | which apache version package installs standard etch apt-get sources |
| 18:33.05 | wols_ | abrotman: thanks |
| 18:33.07 | DustyBin | at last ive found a decent guide, this is worth bookmarking : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/284 |
| 18:33.09 | xand | greenmang0: hardware support isn't distro specific |
| 18:33.23 | abrotman | &info apache2 etch |
| 18:33.27 | linnewbye | tralala: ports 1,2,5,6 are master ports , 3,4 are slave ports , the installes detects only the disk connected in the sata 4 port |
| 18:33.31 | aptitude | apache2: (Next generation, scalable, extendable web server), section net, is optional. Version: 2.2.3-4+etch1 (etch), Packaged size: 38 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
| 18:33.42 | xand | &info why the hell isn't my nslu2 requesting an IP address |
| 18:33.52 | ^Timo^ | hmm hmm. |
| 18:33.56 | ^Timo^ | ok. |
| 18:33.57 | ^Timo^ | thanks |
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| 18:34.06 | greenmang0 | xand: before Etch I was using Ubuntu Gutsy on my lappy.. I that was working very much fine! |
| 18:34.35 | xand | greenmang0: so? |
| 18:34.47 | xand | greenmang0: if it was working fine, why aren't you still using it? |
| 18:34.48 | tralala | linnewbye, I don't think sata makes the master/slave separation |
| 18:34.50 | linnewbye | wols_: i was referring at the port number, not at the sata version, i though you wanted to know what disk doesn't the installer detecs , master or slave |
| 18:34.51 | ^Timo^ | i have troubles compiling from tarbal it gives docroot does not exists |
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| 18:35.28 | abrotman | ^Timo^: use the debian packages |
| 18:35.33 | wols_ | ^Timo^: we don't support source compiles of apache as you've already been told. ask #apache when you insist on compiling your own |
| 18:35.35 | xand | linnewbye: as you can only have one drive per sata channel there's no master or slave |
| 18:35.41 | greenmang0 | xand: because I still have my Desktop at home on which I am using Debian Etch last one year |
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| 18:36.27 | Nyle | etch wasn't released 1 year ago |
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| 18:36.38 | ^Timo^ | abrotman : do you have url ? |
| 18:36.51 | abrotman | ^Timo^: for what? |
| 18:36.56 | wols_ | ^Timo^: aptitude install apache2 |
| 18:37.05 | Nyle | if you have been using it since it was testing, then why don't you konw |
| 18:37.07 | Nyle | just curious |
| 18:37.10 | greenmang0 | Nyle: 8th April 2006 was the release date of Etch Stable |
| 18:37.26 | Nyle | no it wasn't |
| 18:37.33 | snowbird | nyle got xmas plans |
| 18:37.48 | xand | why doesn't wireshark work as non-root even though I've chmod +s-ed it? |
| 18:37.49 | abrotman | greenmang0: 2007 |
| 18:37.51 | wols_ | greenmang0: etch was released on 2007 |
| 18:38.04 | greenmang0 | yeah... |
| 18:38.06 | Nyle | snowbird: I'm not christian |
| 18:38.11 | greenmang0 | sorry that was my mistake |
| 18:38.13 | snowbird | me either |
| 18:38.19 | greenmang0 | but I am using etch last one year |
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| 18:38.26 | linnewbye | xand, tralala, wols_, on the p5p user guide it says this : conector 1,2,5,6 have the setting master and should be used for boot disk, conector 3,4 have setting slave and should be used as data disk, so when i installed the disks i conected one on the sata 5 port and the other on sata 4 port |
| 18:38.30 | ^Timo^ | abrotman : for the debian package from apache 2.2.6 |
| 18:38.43 | abrotman | ^Timo^: aptitude install apache2 |
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| 18:39.13 | Nyle | Etch (4.0; 2007-04-08) |
| 18:39.22 | Nyle | where is my chinese food goddamit |
| 18:39.23 | greenmang0 | help me please... what to do with the resolution issue? |
| 18:39.26 | ^Timo^ | abrotman: that installs 2.2.3.4 |
| 18:39.31 | ^Timo^ | ok |
| 18:39.32 | abrotman | ^Timo^: right .. and? |
| 18:39.36 | snowbird | lol nyle |
| 18:39.40 | linnewbye | xand, tralala, wols_ : when i boot and get to the partitioning scheme it only shows the disk connected on the sata 4 connector |
| 18:39.49 | xand | greenmang0: did you try the i810 drive? |
| 18:39.50 | xand | +r |
| 18:39.57 | greenmang0 | xand: yeah |
| 18:40.01 | xand | linnewbye: try a different sata connector |
| 18:40.04 | Nyle | linnewbye: is the bios detecting the drives? |
| 18:40.05 | greenmang0 | that disabled xserver |
| 18:40.20 | Nyle | linnewbye: try diff cables too, and make sure you connect the power |
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| 18:40.45 | tralala | linnewbye, are all the other sata channels in use? |
| 18:40.48 | greenmang0 | xand: xserver didn't startup when I used i810 |
| 18:40.59 | jelousbuddy | what's a good 3d application for linux,like a game (but not real games) |
| 18:41.03 | x_zeuss | can i use for a server the one cd xfce for a server? |
| 18:41.08 | Nyle | !debgames |
| 18:41.13 | Nyle | goddamit dpkg |
| 18:41.13 | tralala | jelousbuddy, glxgears |
| 18:41.14 | x_zeuss | or do i have do download all thoese 3 dvds |
| 18:41.16 | x_zeuss | ? |
| 18:41.17 | m4lu5 | hmm. this is slightly problematic... grabbed latest Testing netinst. I choose Standard System in tasksel, nothing else, and in console log I see dire error about wanting to remove find utils, ... "type 'I understand taht this is a very bad idea" ... ok, so I've seen this before, when I have *control* of the console, |
| 18:41.23 | m4lu5 | but now I don't... the installer does. |
| 18:41.24 | greenmang0 | xand: so I think Etch is not having drivers for my Graphics Card |
| 18:41.28 | m4lu5 | any idea how to circumvent? |
| 18:41.51 | Nyle | m4lu5: do not use taskel |
| 18:42.02 | wols_ | m4lu5: don't use the testing installer |
| 18:42.06 | m4lu5 | bleh. |
| 18:42.12 | wols_ | and yes, don't ever use tasksel either |
| 18:42.21 | xand | greenmang0: I guess you might need to install the driver manually |
| 18:42.35 | jelousbuddy | <tralala> what is glxgear? |
| 18:42.42 | m4lu5 | ok. i've unselected all options. i'll just build up the system myself. ok by me. |
| 18:42.46 | Nyle | it comes with mesa-utils |
| 18:42.49 | linnewbye | tralala, xand: the other channels are not in use, i'll try to switch them |
| 18:43.01 | greenmang0 | xand: yeah.. I got the driver from the intel website |
| 18:43.09 | m4lu5 | and I like using the testing installer. it's never failed me (yet) |
| 18:43.10 | x_zeuss | what do i have to download to use debian as server? is the 1 cd xfce enough? |
| 18:43.11 | snowbird | nyle chinisee food arrives late dont pay em |
| 18:43.22 | greenmang0 | xand: but It needs kernel source code for installation |
| 18:43.23 | tralala | jelousbuddy, it's a good linux 3d app, that's like a game but not a real game. It's just what you're looking for. |
| 18:43.32 | chasing`Sol | how do i limit the number of connections per IP? |
| 18:43.33 | wols_ | x_zeuss: start with netinst. you don't want X on a server |
| 18:43.34 | xand | greenmang0: install it then |
| 18:43.36 | m4lu5 | Ahh, lookie there. nice shiny new Thinkpad w/Debian. only sullied once by Vista Home Premium :) |
| 18:43.49 | wols_ | greenmang0: it might need kernel headers but not source |
| 18:44.00 | jelousbuddy | <tralala> where do i get it? |
| 18:44.02 | Nyle | snowbird: they are like half a block from me |
| 18:44.06 | greenmang0 | xand: I have no experience of kernel compilation and all |
| 18:44.14 | x_zeuss | wols_: i don't have a good internet speed so i have to dl the iso? |
| 18:44.15 | tralala | jelousbuddy, install mesa-utils |
| 18:44.17 | Nyle | jelousbuddy: aptitude install mesa-utils |
| 18:44.30 | wols_ | x_zeuss: you have to download the ISO too |
| 18:44.34 | xand | greenmang0: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 18:44.38 | Nyle | jelousbuddy: glxgears gives you fps output, good when you also run it with --fullscreen |
| 18:44.41 | Nyle | 55094 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11018.730 FPS |
| 18:44.42 | jelousbuddy | <tralala> <Nyle> :) seem to already have it insalled, how do i run it now? |
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| 18:44.49 | wols_ | x_zeuss: and you won't need all packages that are on the ISO so you have downloaded those in vain |
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| 18:44.53 | xand | greenmang0: and probably build-essential |
| 18:44.54 | Nyle | jelousbuddy: on console, type glxgears |
| 18:45.22 | greenmang0 | xand: there is one more problem |
| 18:45.39 | jelousbuddy | 24231 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4846.093 FPS |
| 18:45.39 | jelousbuddy | 25442 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5087.838 FPS |
| 18:45.39 | jelousbuddy | 25207 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5041.281 FPS |
| 18:45.40 | jelousbuddy | ? |
| 18:45.41 | m4lu5 | since it's been about 2 years since my last fresh "desktop" install; is 'apt-get install gnome-desktop-environemnt' the suggested way to go? |
| 18:45.44 | xand | :o |
| 18:46.07 | greenmang0 | etch not able to detect my eth0 |
| 18:46.14 | greenmang0 | xand |
| 18:46.24 | jelousbuddy | what does that mean> |
| 18:46.26 | jelousbuddy | what does that mean? |
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| 18:46.32 | greenmang0 | wols_: |
| 18:46.35 | xand | greenmang0: does "lspci" list a network card? |
| 18:46.53 | x_zeuss | wols_: so if i dl the netinstall is that enough? is it like ubuntu let's say, where the programs are installed by internet or is all the linux installed by internet |
| 18:46.54 | tralala | jelousbuddy, it means you've got a nice video card |
| 18:46.54 | xand | greenmang0: and does ifconfig -a list it? |
| 18:46.58 | greenmang0 | xand : it shows > intel corporation unknown device |
| 18:47.08 | wols_ | greenmang0: update-pciids |
| 18:47.10 | xand | greenmang0: for what? |
| 18:47.15 | greenmang0 | xand: no... Ifconfig lists only lo |
| 18:47.27 | xand | greenmang0: did you put -a? |
| 18:47.37 | greenmang0 | xand: Yeah |
| 18:47.41 | jelousbuddy | <tralala> how nice? and what does the fps mean? is it effected by the driver? |
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| 18:48.00 | snowbird | nyle they are across street and 4 down outher side |
| 18:48.40 | tralala | jelousbuddy, 42, frames per second, yes |
| 18:49.10 | xand | how useful for wireshark to tell me that running it as root "could be dangerous"... it doesn't bloody work as non-root! |
| 18:49.21 | greenmang0 | xand: one more thing : when I used ubuntu.. it was able to detect card but wasn't able to ping any site.. even my adsl router |
| 18:49.33 | xand | then you didn't set it up correctly |
| 18:49.45 | greenmang0 | then Google told me to use `pci = noacpi ' as a kernel parameter |
| 18:49.59 | greenmang0 | xand: and then it worked fine |
| 18:51.00 | greenmang0 | xand: so will this help > installgui pci=acpioff < while installing Etch? |
| 18:51.28 | x_zeuss | what do i need to download from debian.org to be able to install debian as a server? |
| 18:51.28 | xand | er |
| 18:51.40 | xand | x_zeuss: the netinstall CD |
| 18:51.41 | abrotman | ^d-i |
| 18:51.43 | abrotman | bah |
| 18:51.44 | abrotman | &d-i |
| 18:51.45 | aptitude | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now the new Testing! |
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| 18:51.58 | tralala | does etch fully support selinux? |
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| 18:53.16 | x_zeuss | what are all thoese cd isoes there for? if i only have to use the netinstall? |
| 18:53.17 | jelousbuddy | am i wasting my time and mind? and is mind a terrible thing to waste? |
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| 18:53.40 | wols_ | x_zeuss: they are for places without a internet connection |
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| 18:53.59 | wols_ | jelousbuddy: you are currently on irc. that answers that question sufficiently |
| 18:54.10 | tralala | !wols_++ |
| 18:54.22 | jelousbuddy | wols_ i don't understand |
| 18:54.35 | xand | you don't have a mind |
| 18:54.41 | tralala | jelousbuddy, you've got nothing to waste then |
| 18:55.09 | x_zeuss | and if i install from the netinstall cd what about the rest of programs i need? what exactilly will be installed over internet? |
| 18:55.36 | wols_ | x_zeuss: everything except the base install |
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| 18:57.07 | logyati | hey guys, how do i isolate an wireless network plugged on a switch? i mean, i have a wireless router and a wired network. i dont want to allow users at the wireless network to access or see pcs of the wired one... |
| 18:57.11 | x_zeuss | wols_: so the netinstall cd will install the minimum required and the rest of programs i need will be installed by internet right? kind of like ubuntu (?) installing programs? |
| 18:57.31 | x_zeuss | wols_: sorry for the stupid questions, i'm really noob at servers but i want to learn |
| 18:57.52 | wols_ | no ubuntu always has a full CD worth of stuff. |
| 18:58.02 | wols_ | debian netinst is smaller and installs less. good for servers |
| 18:58.05 | greenmang0 | wols_: xand abrotman : when will " Lenny " become `stable' ? |
| 18:58.24 | x_zeuss | wols_: but if choese the kde or xfce cd's? can i use thoese for server? |
| 18:58.34 | minus_ | wols_, The netinstaller installs basically the same amount of stuff as ubuntu does.. |
| 18:58.36 | tralala | logyati, use different subnets for wireless/wired |
| 18:58.56 | plee | portmap is just for nfs right? |
| 18:59.07 | jelousbuddy | i have a unpleasant feeling in my eye!! why do i see light when i open my eyes? am i giving out light and effecting or harming anyone? |
| 18:59.11 | wols_ | minus_: my netinstalled never installed X. while ubuntu by default has X afaik. and gnome |
| 18:59.12 | minus_ | wols_, Atleast if you choose "Desktop" something.. I don't remember what it says.. |
| 18:59.19 | wols_ | minus_: another thing my netinstaller never ever installed |
| 18:59.32 | tralala | &troll gong |
| 18:59.32 | aptitude | BONNGGGGG!! |
| 18:59.33 | valdyn | x_zeuss: those cds differ in what is on them, your debian system is still the same with the remaining packages available on the net |
| 18:59.37 | wols_ | minus_: that "Desktop" is downlaoded from the internet while on ubunut it's on the CD |
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| 18:59.39 | simonrvn | jelousbuddy: no. and you misspelled 'jelous' |
| 18:59.47 | minus_ | wols_, Ok, you mean like that.. |
| 18:59.50 | simonrvn | jelousbuddy: it's 'jealous' |
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| 18:59.55 | logyati | tralala, well, my wired network is 10.10.10.x with netmask 255.255.255.0. my wireless network is 192.168.1.x with 255.255.255.0 as netmask. |
| 18:59.57 | greenmang0 | !lenny stable |
| 19:00.02 | logyati | what am i doing wrong? |
| 19:00.16 | xand | greenmang0: when it's ready |
| 19:00.23 | jelousbuddy | <simonrvn> i will try to remember next time i log in ok? i can't change now i have to quit all channels |
| 19:00.35 | tralala | logyati, you're not doing anything wrong - you just need to setup the routing table |
| 19:00.37 | simonrvn | uh, no |
| 19:00.49 | xand | jelousbuddy: can't you? doesn't your client have a /nick command? |
| 19:00.53 | simonrvn | it's called /nick |
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| 19:00.57 | greenmang0 | xand do you know which month and year? |
| 19:00.58 | wols_ | greenmang0: lenny is testing |
| 19:01.02 | minus_ | logyati, Ehm.. 255.255.255.0.. Isn't that class C. And 10.10.10.x is class A? |
| 19:01.12 | xand | greenmang0: probably next year |
| 19:01.19 | wols_ | minus_: those kind of things are irrelevant |
| 19:01.20 | xand | or the year after |
| 19:01.20 | tralala | minus_, no |
| 19:01.26 | minus_ | wols_, Ok.. |
| 19:01.37 | logyati | minus_, so, how should i setup this ips? |
| 19:01.39 | wols_ | tralala: there once upon a time was class a b and c |
| 19:02.16 | logyati | tralala, setup where? inside the router or the wireless router? |
| 19:02.27 | tralala | wols_, I wonder if these classes make any sense anymore |
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| 19:02.37 | minus_ | wols_, But.. 10.10.10.x does belong to the Subnet Mask of 255.0.0.0.. |
| 19:02.39 | wols_ | tralala: nope they don't |
| 19:02.55 | wols_ | minus_: no. and you can create subets any way you want |
| 19:03.16 | logyati | please help me with it then, witch ips should i use at the router? |
| 19:03.23 | logyati | to the wired network? |
| 19:03.29 | logyati | instead 10.10.10.x |
| 19:03.31 | tralala | logyati, hire a sysadmin |
| 19:03.34 | minus_ | wols_, ok.. Weird that they cisco teaches me this if it doesn't affect anything.. |
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| 19:03.51 | ericcardell | hey guys |
| 19:03.53 | ericcardell | http://chrismetcalf.net/blog/archives/2005/05/19/mini-howto-installing-java-on-debian-unstable/ |
| 19:04.01 | ericcardell | i used that tutorial to install jdk 1.5 |
| 19:04.03 | greenmang0 | wols_: xand : is Lenny working fine?... so that I can try installing it on my lappy |
| 19:04.09 | wols_ | @install java |
| 19:04.13 | ericcardell | i then realised i needed jdk 1.6 so i installed that the same way |
| 19:04.16 | simonrvn | ericcardell: it's packaged in non-free now |
| 19:04.16 | wols_ | greenmang0: for a desktop: mostly yes |
| 19:04.20 | ericcardell | but java -version still shows 1.5 as being installed |
| 19:04.23 | xand | greenmang0: it wasn't the last time I tried |
| 19:04.27 | simonrvn | ericcardell: so is that one |
| 19:04.30 | xand | but that was a month or so ago |
| 19:04.37 | ericcardell | so how can i uninstall 1.5 ? |
| 19:04.40 | ericcardell | and just use 1.6 |
| 19:04.48 | wols_ | ericcardell: same way you installed it |
| 19:05.02 | ericcardell | check that tutorial |
| 19:05.07 | ericcardell | not sure how to undo all that |
| 19:05.26 | jelousbuddy | what does 4077.982 FPS mean? |
| 19:05.49 | ericcardell | frames per second i'd imagine |
| 19:05.51 | logyati | comon, please help guys =/ |
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| 19:06.05 | greenmang0 | xand: that means I can't use Debian until next stable release :-( .. that's very bad.. |
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| 19:06.16 | xand | greenmang0: no it doesn't |
| 19:06.28 | xand | greenmang0: did you even try the manual driver install? |
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| 19:06.39 | tralala | obviously it's already sunday in certain parts of the world |
| 19:06.49 | greenmang0 | xand: no... |
| 19:07.11 | ericcardell | wols_, can i just leave it installed and just use 1.6 instead ? |
| 19:07.22 | ericcardell | how can i make "java -version" be 1.6 instead ? |
| 19:07.31 | xand | greenmang0: well then |
| 19:07.40 | wols_ | ericcardell: how did you install this java? |
| 19:07.54 | greenmang0 | xand: Ok I wll try manual install |
| 19:08.05 | ericcardell | http://chrismetcalf.net/blog/archives/2005/05/19/mini-howto-installing-java-on-debian-unstable/ |
| 19:08.07 | ericcardell | with that tutorial |
| 19:08.09 | ericcardell | exactly |
| 19:08.26 | teclo- | will there be a large idiffernce in performance between a GeForce 6200 AGP 128M and a 256M ? |
| 19:08.30 | greenmang0 | xand : time to sleep now... |
| 19:08.32 | abrotman | ask #hardware |
| 19:08.42 | teclo- | or will it just affect the maximum resolution and stuff ? |
| 19:08.45 | wols_ | teclo-: #hardware |
| 19:08.46 | jelousbuddy | i ran glxgear and it gave me that, so does video driver effect fps? |
| 19:08.51 | greenmang0 | xand abrotman wols_ Nyle : Thanks for the Help |
| 19:09.04 | ericcardell | wols_, would REALLY appreciate some help |
| 19:09.04 | teclo- | wols_: yeah but, I did that, they told me to buy a 7600 :P |
| 19:09.14 | teclo- | wols_: you seemed to have some uhhh knowledge |
| 19:09.15 | ericcardell | very important i get this working |
| 19:09.16 | wols_ | ericcardell: ask sun, not us |
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| 19:09.31 | ericcardell | :/ |
| 19:09.38 | wols_ | teclo-: then tell them to give you the difference between a 6200 and a 7600 and you will happily oblige |
| 19:09.46 | teclo- | wols_: heh :P |
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| 19:10.44 | wols_ | imho those 128MB are enough. a 6200 can barely use those 129MB with its 64bit bus |
| 19:11.08 | wols_ | imho there won't be much of a difference to your mx but your choice |
| 19:11.15 | jelousbuddy | if i have 4877.982 FPS why do i get broken video's sometimes on xvid movies? |
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| 19:16.10 | pieterb | i think i ran big libc upgrade problems on my testing distribution |
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| 19:16.53 | pieterb | can anybody try to assist me in downgrading libc6 or upgrading to libc6 2.7-4? |
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| 19:17.24 | wols_ | pieterb: what problems? |
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| 19:17.38 | pieterb | i think i ran in the same problems as Bug#454557: marked as done (libc6: before upgrade must uninstall libc6-i686 first) |
| 19:17.47 | pieterb | http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20071207.072117.1452c5e1.en.html |
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| 19:18.27 | pieterb | my apt-get upgrade crashed while upgradeing libc6 |
| 19:18.38 | pieterb | and now a lot of programs give errors when starting |
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| 19:20.46 | wols_ | so use dpkg to uninstall libc6-686? |
| 19:21.02 | wols_ | or download libc6 2.7-4 from wherever and install it via dpkg |
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| 19:24.23 | tralala | xand, the packages are not hand picked - everything that can be build for the arch goes in |
| 19:24.37 | tralala | (autobuild) |
| 19:24.40 | infinity0 | i'm trying to set up bastille, and i'm on the "TCP ports to allow on public interfaces" part. do i need to add daap / bittorrent / dc++ ports for me to be able to share stuff? |
| 19:24.40 | xand | I see |
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| 19:27.11 | gamag | i have come here to say thank you to the debian community. I love debian due to its simplicity. I sometimes wonder if my girlfriend could be like Debian. |
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| 19:27.46 | BobSapp | O_O |
| 19:28.03 | kuribas | How can I set the font size for gtk apps running outside of gnome? |
| 19:28.08 | tralala | gamag, you want your girlfriend to have debian's user base? |
| 19:28.10 | BobSapp | sudo apt-get install b-cup ? |
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| 19:29.37 | tralala | kuribas, in one of the numerous gtkrc |
| 19:30.34 | Vasistha | kuribas: I've just arrived, but I've spent some time customizing my gtkrc files, since I run kde (and not gnome-control) ... maybe there's something I can answer? |
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| 19:31.56 | pieterb | unfortuately libc upgrading doesnot work: |
| 19:31.59 | pieterb | # dpkg -i libc6_2.7-4_i386.deb |
| 19:31.59 | pieterb | dpkg: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/': Unknown error 530 |
| 19:32.11 | simonrvn | tralala: and derivative OSes ... o_O heh |
| 19:32.33 | tralala | simonrvn, hehe |
| 19:32.33 | simonrvn | witf did you do? |
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| 19:32.50 | pieterb | any ideas how to procede? should either be libc6 be promoted quickly or reverted to prevent other people from getting in these libc problems? |
| 19:33.54 | simonrvn | 'proceed' |
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| 19:35.56 | jelousbuddy | is daylight too bright? and does ligh have any pushing force like sunlight , lamp, or computer lcd/ screen light? |
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| 19:37.04 | pieterb | can anybody help me and tell me how i should fix my system after running in the same kind of problems as described in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454557 |
| 19:37.17 | simonrvn | jelousbuddy: do you have something debian-related to talk about? |
| 19:37.50 | Nostahl | what are the reccommended system spec's for a debian etch install |
| 19:38.02 | pieterb | i'm affraid rebooting my system will get me in bigger problems |
| 19:38.22 | simonrvn | yeh, don't reboot |
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| 19:38.43 | simonrvn | i gotta go afk. good luck |
| 19:38.44 | jelousbuddy | simonrvn> is half life a good game(educational?) and can be run in Debian? |
| 19:38.44 | wols_ | Nostahl: 486 with 48MB |
| 19:38.49 | jelousbuddy | simonrvn> is half life 2 a good game(educational?) and can be run in Debian? |
| 19:39.01 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 19:39.10 | BobSapp | Educational???? |
| 19:39.16 | simonrvn | !ops jelousbuddy trolling |
| 19:39.36 | simonrvn | @ops jelousbuddy trolling |
| 19:39.37 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, azeem, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: jelousbuddy trolling |
| 19:39.39 | BobSapp | well somewhat teaches the virtues of keeping a crowbar handy. |
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| 19:40.03 | pieterb | i've put my dpkg.log online at http://gewis.nl/~pieterb/tmp/dpkg.log If anybody can assist me in fixing my system I would really be thankful |
| 19:40.09 | gamag | @ops jelousbuddy is cross posting |
| 19:40.10 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, azeem, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: jelousbuddy is cross posting |
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| 19:40.25 | mentor | gamag: We saw the first time? |
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| 19:40.31 | wols_ | Nostahl: stop thst! |
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| 19:40.37 | gamag | can dpkg also do this cool @ops thingy? |
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| 19:40.59 | Nostahl | how do you message someone without opening a im window? |
| 19:41.02 | mentor | gamag: yes |
| 19:41.09 | sparr_ | Nostahl: /msg someone something |
| 19:41.11 | mentor | Nostahl: Use IRRC? |
| 19:41.25 | wols_ | Nostahl: you don't message people in here. especially not unasked. now go away |
| 19:41.25 | mentor | s/RR/R/ |
| 19:41.27 | gamag | IRRC stands for ? |
| 19:41.31 | gamag | ok |
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| 19:41.46 | `Ra` | IRC = Internet Relay Chat |
| 19:41.47 | BobSapp | if i rightly recall? |
| 19:41.47 | Vasistha | pieterb: I'm certainly no expert here, but by my reading it would appear that the guy who posted that bug rebooted with a livecd and removed the offending /lib/i386 binaries. Not so easy if your volume is encrypted, and I have no idea if it'll work, but ... that's what I'm reading in the report |
| 19:42.02 | gamag | BobSapp: that is IIRC |
| 19:42.02 | Nyle | &iirc |
| 19:42.03 | aptitude | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 19:42.13 | BobSapp | ah |
| 19:42.26 | kuribas | Vasistha: Do you know how to use a bigger default font for apps that use Gtk? What I set in gnome-control-center doesn't work, because I use windowmaker without gnome. |
| 19:42.38 | mentor | Nostahl: Because it's stupid and rude? |
| 19:42.45 | wols_ | @mmap |
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| 19:42.50 | sorear | Vasistha: why do you need to reboot to delete the libraries? unix will let you delete /lib/libc.so.6 just fine |
| 19:42.51 | wols_ | &mmap |
| 19:42.51 | aptitude | Getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get? Put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . If you still get the same error, increase the value. If that file doesn't exist, add it, or put that line in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ You can also possibly get rid of this error by deleting entries from your sources.list that you don't actually need. |
| 19:43.14 | BobSapp | I last used debian around version 2 then went to slackware then mandriva then ubuntu. |
| 19:43.18 | Vasistha | kuribas: yeah, I think so -- at least it's working for me with pan and gaim ;) let me pastebin the file |
| 19:43.29 | mentor | Nostahl: Please give some indication that you're going to stop this behaviour. |
| 19:43.31 | BobSapp | now im using debian again its quite nice |
| 19:43.41 | Nyle | yes |
| 19:43.44 | Nyle | nice |
| 19:43.50 | sparr_ | the kde panel cpu monitor is showing 100% IOWait time on my CPU. how can i figure out whats causing that? |
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| 19:44.14 | m4lu5 | what do I want to "apt-get install" to get x installed; fonts, a wm, etc? |
| 19:44.21 | pieterb | sorear: i don't now if deleting /lib/libc.so.6 will solve my problems |
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| 19:44.32 | kuribas | Vasistha: Ok, thanks. |
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| 19:44.56 | BobSapp | m4lu5: maybe a desktop environment like twm kdm or gnome? |
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| 19:45.10 | BobSapp | or is that too much? |
| 19:45.11 | sparr | m4lu5: get kde-base, that will bring X along with it |
| 19:45.22 | m4lu5 | BobSapp I apt-got gnome-desktop-environment... oddly enough, x didn't come along for the ride. |
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| 19:45.54 | sparr | thats... odd |
| 19:46.04 | m4lu5 | i'll give xfonts-base a go. |
| 19:46.16 | m4lu5 | that should satisfy basic font needs (which is what X is currently bitching about) |
| 19:46.35 | linnewbye | wols_ , xand , tralala : changing the cables did the trick ,i suscesfully installed debian |
| 19:46.38 | m4lu5 | good enough. that gets me going. |
| 19:46.48 | kuribas | Maybe because you don't need X to use gnome apps? |
| 19:46.50 | Vasistha | kuribas: http://paste.debian.net/44443 ... I use a really funky color scheme, so you probably won't want to copy most of that stuff ;) but the font is right on top |
| 19:46.52 | sorear | sparr: top, look for processes in state D |
| 19:47.14 | tralala | linnewbye, welcome on board |
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| 19:47.47 | BobSapp | crap i ran tasksel and then deselected all the packaged (i didnt want to install anything) |
| 19:47.54 | BobSapp | now everything is getting removed |
| 19:48.03 | kuribas | Vasistha: great, thanks! |
| 19:48.03 | sparr | sorear: thanks. was defunct mplayer processes. |
| 19:48.03 | Vasistha | sorear: well, if every execution results in SIGSEGV, then it's awfully difficult to remove files ... not my problem, but maybe you'll have a bright idea: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454557 |
| 19:48.07 | BobSapp | any way to stop the process? |
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| 19:48.18 | sorear | sparr: uh... D, not SZ |
| 19:48.19 | sorear | *Z |
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| 19:48.29 | sparr | yes, was in D |
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| 19:48.46 | sorear | sparr: D mplayer <defunct> ? |
| 19:48.55 | sparr | no |
| 19:48.59 | BobSapp | nevermind ill reinstall |
| 19:49.01 | mentor | You don't need a local X server for applications |
| 19:49.02 | sorear | sparr: that is, according to all my knowledge of kernel behavior, impossible. |
| 19:49.09 | sorear | something is very wrong here |
| 19:49.11 | Vasistha | BobSapp: I dunno ... sending a TERM signal to aptitude/dpkg could have ... undesireable results. |
| 19:49.15 | sparr | it wasnt officially-kernel-defunct |
| 19:49.23 | sparr | i was just using the normal english defunct |
| 19:49.32 | sorear | ah. |
| 19:49.40 | pieterb | can i extract the libraries of libc6_2.7-4_i386.deb to /lib to solve my libc upgrade problems? |
| 19:49.41 | Vasistha | BobSapp: on the bright side, it's relatively trivial to look at your dpkg logs (/var/log/dpkg.log) and see what you've changed |
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| 19:50.27 | wols_ | pieterb: no. cause your package management will still be fubar |
| 19:50.50 | pieterb | wols: so what should i do? |
| 19:51.25 | tralala | pieterb, recover /var/lib/{apt,dpkg} from backup |
| 19:51.52 | DustyBin | i got https working but there are a lot of errors still showing in my log what i need to clean up |
| 19:52.10 | DustyBin | [warn] Init: You should not use name-based virtual hosts in conjunction with SSL!! |
| 19:52.15 | DustyBin | strange error? |
| 19:52.28 | wols_ | DustyBin: no. virtual hosts and ssl don't mix |
| 19:52.37 | wols_ | one ip per server with ssl |
| 19:52.42 | DustyBin | oh nooo |
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| 19:52.57 | DustyBin | i have 5 vhosts :-( |
| 19:52.58 | pieterb | ok, i'm really in problems... even scp to and from the machine doesn't work |
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| 19:53.36 | DustyBin | wols_: ill sign the certs with IP instead of hostnames then |
| 19:53.39 | tralala | messed up libc and package management sounds exactly like that |
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| 19:55.21 | `Ra` | how would I go about installing debian and opensuse together? |
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| 19:55.27 | `Ra` | a dual boot, I mean. |
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| 19:56.05 | Ronin | install one, leave open space install 2 on the free spack |
| 19:56.05 | `Ra` | would I tell it to install on the free space that it has and let it go or would I have to configure it specifically another way? |
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| 19:56.38 | bucky | decide which one's boot loader you want to handle things and install that last |
| 19:56.44 | simonrvn | mentor: thank you |
| 19:58.06 | spq | `Ra`, why would you like to? |
| 19:58.16 | spq | you can test them in xen or something |
| 19:59.42 | `Ra` | I've tested them already, and decided I liked them both. |
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| 20:00.42 | spq | hmm, ou should really decide to use one |
| 20:00.51 | DustyBin | RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `192.168.0.5' does NOT match server name!? |
| 20:01.00 | spq | else you have to do everything two times :) |
| 20:01.00 | DustyBin | what is the server name? |
| 20:01.00 | DustyBin | xxxxxxxx.net ? |
| 20:01.05 | DustyBin | or xxxxx.xxxxx.net ? |
| 20:01.32 | spq | `Ra`, and oopensuse... i dont know it but i know suse and i hated it because yast everytime overwrote my config files ^^ |
| 20:02.38 | pieterb | because of the libc6 fixes, would not it be possible to upgrade the testing distribution to 2.7-4 or revert it to 2.6.1-1? Otherwise a lot of people will get glibc problems like me and the persons listed in Bug#454557 |
| 20:02.42 | tralala | DustyBin, if you're self-signing the certificate why do you care? |
| 20:02.58 | GhostlyDeath_ | I got the packages needed to play ASX files but I still can't play them |
| 20:03.28 | wols_ | GhostlyDeath_: DRMed? |
| 20:03.35 | GhostlyDeath_ | wols_: I doubt it |
| 20:03.38 | DustyBin | tralala: to stop the logs complaining! |
| 20:03.46 | DustyBin | its good practice to have clean error logs |
| 20:03.59 | DustyBin | tralala: you wouldnt make a good system admin... |
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| 20:05.42 | troubled | mentor: you there? |
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| 20:06.38 | DustyBin | wols_: although my logs say: [warn] Init: You should not use name-based virtual hosts in conjunction with SSL!! SSL seems to be working ok on my vhosts, if i ignore that message could i run into problems at some point |
| 20:06.40 | troubled | dont ban CPE363d96b503e0-CM00194757ed42.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com, ban CPE*-CM00194757ed42.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com instead. jelousbuddy has about 20 some nicks and is a known troll. He changes mac addresses to get a slightly diff ip and repeats. |
| 20:06.46 | troubled | mentor: ^^^ |
| 20:07.45 | bucky | DustyBin, the server name is what apache calls it's self in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default you might have to look up the doc for apache2 |
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| 20:08.16 | bucky | for that address |
| 20:08.25 | DustyBin | bucky: its ok i just used xxxxxxx.net and its working ok |
| 20:08.33 | bucky | awsome |
| 20:08.42 | DustyBin | its just your hostname |
| 20:09.00 | DustyBin | or is that domain name |
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| 20:09.51 | DustyBin | <domain>.<host>.net |
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| 20:12.20 | GhostlyDeath_ | all mykeys r broke! |
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| 20:13.18 | GhostlyDeath_ | i havetoholddowwn the keysfrrhletters to apppeear |
| 20:13.22 | GhostlyDeath_ | help |
| 20:13.37 | sdubois92-laptop | flash sound in iceweasel didnt work, but when i run killall esd it works. does anyone know how to make it so it works all the time so i dont have to run killall esd when i boot |
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| 20:13.52 | ginoman | GhostlyDeath_: do you have to hold "shift" during boot up and shut down? |
| 20:14.08 | GhostlyDeath_ | no |
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| 20:15.11 | GhostlyDeath_ | damn accessibility junk turned on |
| 20:15.21 | GhostlyDeath_ | I set it to disable it and it still appears |
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| 20:16.10 | tralala | sdubois92-laptop, disable esd permanently |
| 20:16.12 | Vasistha | hehe, long keyboard latency combined with a very fast repeat -- definitely a formula for madness |
| 20:16.20 | tix64 | sdubois92-laptop: edit /etc/iceweasel/iceweaselrc or ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc and set the ICEWEASEL_DSP variable to "esddsp" so that iceweasel uses esd. |
| 20:16.21 | dalias | sdubois92-laptop, apt-get remove esd maybe? |
| 20:16.41 | dalias | since when does iceweasel use the sound device anyway? |
| 20:16.49 | dalias | i never encountered such behavior |
| 20:16.58 | tralala | the flash plugin does |
| 20:17.04 | dalias | ah |
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| 20:17.21 | wols_ | dalias: flash |
| 20:17.41 | tralala | other plugins too, of course |
| 20:18.14 | Vasistha | I remember a long, long time ago people used to have these little midi players on their web pages ... they were definitely before the flash era, I don't think flash was even around at that time |
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| 20:18.58 | tralala | they were still plugin based, and just as annoying as flash |
| 20:19.41 | Vasistha | although I don't recall needing to install any plugins for such a thing ... perhaps I did it anyway. |
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| 20:20.22 | tix64 | Vasistha: netscape had a preintalled midi/wav plugin. |
| 20:20.24 | Zippy2 | tralala: they might have been annoying but they were much more secure |
| 20:20.34 | dalias | yeah it was really annoying |
| 20:20.45 | Zippy2 | and looked better too |
| 20:21.12 | bucky | sdubois92, this seems to describe your problem http://tinyurl.com/2k86nq |
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| 20:22.02 | Vasistha | hehe, the early days of netscape 4. I discovered opera when I got sick of netscape 4.6 and didn't want to upgrade to netscape 6 |
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| 20:22.46 | tralala | I still haven't discovered opera |
| 20:23.25 | Vasistha | best browser :) but non-free. I've converted a couple ff users. they even have a debian repo |
| 20:24.05 | Vasistha | haha |
| 20:24.08 | xingu | s/v/w/ |
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| 20:24.43 | Zippy2 | netscape 4.72 or definitely better than 6 |
| 20:24.47 | Zippy2 | much less bloated |
| 20:24.47 | gamag | i am englightened now |
| 20:24.50 | Zippy2 | i think it was 4.72 |
| 20:24.51 | Vasistha | anyway, I've got madwifi happily installed, and my atheros wifi works great. The only thing: the kernel seems to auto-load it, even though I did not put it in /etc/modules. I'd prefer to load it by hand when I want it. Recommendations? |
| 20:25.00 | gamag | I can now understand that this whole universe is an illusion |
| 20:25.02 | simonrvn | went to 4.78 |
| 20:25.13 | Zippy2 | 4.78, right |
| 20:25.18 | Zippy2 | how long has it been since 4.78? |
| 20:25.44 | Vasistha | I think it was around 2000 or 2001 |
| 20:25.57 | tralala | I somehow suspect that I'm going to like w3m better |
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| 20:26.25 | Vasistha | gamag: ah, yet an intellectual understanding is somewhat different from a living experience and observation of the same |
| 20:26.32 | tralala | Vasistha, blacklist it |
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| 20:27.00 | Vasistha | tralala: oh, of course -- that's right, blacklisting only stops *automatic* loads. thanks |
| 20:27.17 | gamag | Vasistha: how can we experience or observe it because we are limited by 5 senses only |
| 20:27.30 | gamag | the 5 senses create the illusion of what we perceive as the universe |
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| 20:28.09 | Vasistha | gamag: all you have to do is look inside the self and let go of the senses :) |
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| 20:29.17 | gamag | oops! I am so sorry. I thought it was #defocus |
| 20:29.41 | nostahl | what do i type in a terminal to see if my usb wireless adapter is showing up |
| 20:29.58 | gamag | all the tabs are so small due to the huge number of channels I have opened and #debian appears as #de... only. So I thought it was #defocus and hence the enlightenment and universe stuff. :( |
| 20:30.06 | tralala | nostahl, iwconfig |
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| 20:30.57 | tralala | gamag, time to yourself find a better irc client |
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| 20:32.32 | Vasistha | nostahl: you can also check ifconfig, and ifconfig -a |
| 20:32.51 | bucky | all hail the mainframe http://www.silent.se/bilder/stallman.jpg |
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| 20:34.01 | billy | hello |
| 20:34.08 | billy | say i was to screw up all the files in /etc/alternatives |
| 20:34.17 | billy | how could i get them back to how they were ? |
| 20:34.20 | Vasistha | nostahl: please keep it in-channel |
| 20:34.33 | ricosecada | Anyone who knows of a way or an app that can grab realmedia files thats stored on a rtsp server? |
| 20:34.34 | pipeline | bucky: those are hp9000s or hp3000s... in either case, not mainframe. |
| 20:34.46 | Vasistha | ricosecada: mplayer |
| 20:35.04 | nostahl | anyone experienced with setting up a dynex wireless G usb adapter up in debian |
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| 20:35.16 | ricosecada | Vasistha, not just play it, but save it on the disk, can it do that? |
| 20:35.25 | bucky | pipeline, sorry.. see what i know about spiritual things? |
| 20:35.30 | Vasistha | ricosecada: sure, man mplayer ... -dumpstream |
| 20:35.43 | ricosecada | Vasistha, thanks! |
| 20:35.48 | Vasistha | np |
| 20:35.57 | billy | anybody ? |
| 20:35.59 | sorear | billy: update-alternatives --auto <linkname> perhaps |
| 20:36.01 | Vasistha | nostahl: do you know what kind of radio it's got? |
| 20:36.26 | billy | sorear so i would have to do that for each and every file in there ? |
| 20:36.37 | bucky | billy tar up the directory from another machine and dump it into the one that's missing them? |
| 20:36.43 | Vasistha | nostahl: what was that? |
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| 20:36.57 | billy | bucky i don't have another machine :/ |
| 20:37.07 | DrCortex | so where do I download debian |
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| 20:37.24 | hajhouse | !wacom |
| 20:37.29 | bucky | billy, letsee if i can tar up mine |
| 20:38.10 | hajhouse | hmm, the dpkg bot seems to be missing |
| 20:39.27 | nostahl | how do i set up a wireless usb adapter after i plug it in |
| 20:39.40 | nostahl | it dosnt show up in the network settings |
| 20:39.48 | Vasistha | nostahl: this one looks good: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 |
| 20:39.53 | simonrvn | DrCortex: www.debian.org |
| 20:40.05 | DrCortex | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/ see the list of computer types it says it can be used with, how do I know wich one I have? |
| 20:40.25 | Vasistha | nostahl: broadcom is an evil corporation that won't release any of their (in all likelihood very poorly written) code/specs. So you may be stuck with ndiswrapper. This task is going to be difficult ;) |
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| 20:40.49 | cloakable | Heh |
| 20:40.53 | linnewbye | does someone know how can i set up eth1 to be recongnized as eth0 ? |
| 20:40.57 | sorear | billy: yes, you would have to do it for every file in ther. do you know how to use a shell? |
| 20:41.37 | sorear | billy: try e.g. cd /etc/alternatives; for x in *; do update-alternatives --auto $x; done |
| 20:41.47 | hajhouse | linnewbye: set it up in /etc/iftab |
| 20:42.08 | linnewbye | also cand someone tell what's the name of the service/script resposible for setting ip/dns addres ?? |
| 20:42.22 | linnewbye | every time i boot i have to set them manually |
| 20:42.38 | linnewbye | hajhouse : thanks |
| 20:42.39 | DrCortex | how do I know if I have an alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc or sparc |
| 20:42.52 | DrCortex | -.- |
| 20:42.57 | sorear | linnewbye: try and get dhclient installed and configured |
| 20:43.00 | sorear | DrCortex: 'arch' |
| 20:43.15 | hajhouse | linnewbye: /etc/iftab lets you configure what eth<n> number each device gets by its mac address |
| 20:43.21 | DrCortex | arch? what? |
| 20:43.26 | mentor | troubled: Ban evasion is a network level offence |
| 20:43.33 | sorear | DrCortex: that's a command for you to type |
| 20:43.35 | mentor | troubled: If I see him again, I'll inform staff |
| 20:43.38 | simonrvn | DrCortex: if you don't know then it's likely amd64 or i386 |
| 20:43.46 | nostahl | is my debian install runing slow because of Gnome? |
| 20:43.51 | DrCortex | C:\WINDOWS>arch |
| 20:43.51 | DrCortex | Bad command or file name |
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| 20:44.07 | xingu | I think he can rule sparc out |
| 20:44.11 | sorear | DrCortex: windows only runs on alpha, i386, and x86_64 |
| 20:44.15 | xingu | mipsel too :) |
| 20:44.18 | simonrvn | xingu: hehe |
| 20:44.33 | billy | sorear think it worked |
| 20:44.34 | Vasistha | DrCortex: you probably have i386 ... unless you have a 64-bit machine? |
| 20:44.35 | billy | thank you :) |
| 20:44.38 | sorear | DrCortex: alpha and mipsel were dropped long ago (NT4 I think), leaving i386 and x86_64 |
| 20:44.51 | DrCortex | It's win 98 so it's probably 32 bit |
| 20:44.51 | simonrvn | DrCortex: do you know the CPU? |
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| 20:44.57 | mentor | nostahl: lsusb; have you loaded the driver for it? |
| 20:45.00 | linnewbye | hajhouse: can't find a man page for iftab nor any comments in /etc/iftab, what should the lines look like in iftab ? "ethX 00:11:22:33:AA:BB" ? |
| 20:45.01 | DrCortex | Intel pentuim III |
| 20:45.04 | Vasistha | DrCortex: even if you have a 64-bit machine, i386 will still work, and certain things (plugins, java) are easier in 32-bit mode |
| 20:45.09 | simonrvn | DrCortex: i386 |
| 20:45.10 | sorear | DrCortex: pentium3 is i386 |
| 20:45.15 | DrCortex | klol ty |
| 20:45.18 | mentor | nostahl: And have you understood IRC etiquette? |
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| 20:45.30 | xingu | linnewbye: try /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
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| 20:45.37 | DrCortex | 163 MB, wtf |
| 20:45.40 | hajhouse | linnewbye: the man page is in the package udev |
| 20:46.09 | Vasistha | nostahl: did you even look at the link I gave you? |
| 20:46.13 | hajhouse | linnewbye: i think the format you want is: eth0 mac xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx |
| 20:46.27 | bucky | hey billy play Runnin Back to Saskatoon for me |
| 20:46.28 | linnewbye | hajhouse: great , i'll install udev package |
| 20:46.43 | nostahl | Vasistha aye i read the link you got me it said that they didnt support the usb versions with broadcom chipset |
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| 20:47.11 | Vasistha | nostahl: then you'll probably have to use ndiswrapper |
| 20:47.46 | linnewbye | hajhouse: it seems it's already installed : "udev is already the newest version" , but when i do man iftab i get "No manual entry for iftab" |
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| 20:48.06 | bucky | !root |
| 20:48.15 | simonrvn | @tell root_ -about root |
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| 20:49.08 | DrCortex | I'm gonna quit irc so the download goes faster |
| 20:49.12 | simonrvn | um |
| 20:49.23 | DrCortex | what |
| 20:49.25 | infinity0 | er... i got a major problem people |
| 20:49.30 | infinity0 | i set up bastille |
| 20:49.34 | DrCortex | :O |
| 20:49.36 | simonrvn | DrCortex: no it's ok not you |
| 20:49.38 | infinity0 | and now i can't login into a tty with my normal account |
| 20:49.40 | pobega | Is anyone able to successfully install Mozex with Iceweasel? |
| 20:49.46 | DrCortex | lol |
| 20:49.51 | infinity0 | error "setuid: resource temp unavail" pops up |
| 20:49.52 | simonrvn | mozex is too old |
| 20:50.03 | infinity0 | but i can log onto another account fine (which doesn't have a home dir) |
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| 20:50.10 | DrCortex | the :O was a joke to infinity0 |
| 20:50.10 | infinity0 | so i'm guessing the startup script is screwing me up |
| 20:50.16 | pobega | simonrvn: Is there anything I can use to get Vim in Iceweasel? |
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| 20:50.30 | simonrvn | itsAllText |
| 20:50.31 | infinity0 | where's the login script? |
| 20:50.57 | xerophyte | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.00 | xerophyte | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:51.50 | pobega | Thanks simonrvn! |
| 20:52.41 | simonrvn | don't pm me PMedia |
| 20:52.56 | simonrvn | yes root is |
| 20:53.10 | simonrvn | blocked from talking here |
| 20:53.31 | drwahl | i'm trying to copy a dvd that i own (a simple iso backup using dd). when i try to run dd, i get a 12MB dump, so i assume that it is because of css. i installed libdvdread3, and still no luck. any ideas? |
| 20:53.41 | pobega | root's blocked from talking here? Interesting. |
| 20:53.48 | sorear | Oh? |
| 20:54.17 | sorear | Huh. I was so sure I had set a fake ircname of 'root' |
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| 20:54.26 | simonrvn | so log out of here, su - to your user then come back |
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| 20:54.42 | simonrvn | @tell PMedia about nodm |
| 20:54.58 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 20:55.08 | bucky | infinity0 did you run it in the interactive mode? |
| 20:55.14 | infinity0 | bucky: yeah |
| 20:55.24 | xingu | ... first gisele, now tehran, who next... |
| 20:55.27 | ribnitz | is it possible CD burning is broken in current SID/Experimental? |
| 20:55.36 | Cusoon959 | @tell Cusoon959 about nodm |
| 20:55.41 | infinity0 | bucky: i;ve tried re-enabling stuff etc but it's not working |
| 20:55.44 | bucky | hmm.. maybe dpkg-reconfigure bastille would give you an opportunity to fix it |
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| 20:55.49 | simonrvn | /msg the bot please |
| 20:55.51 | bucky | dunno |
| 20:56.32 | bucky | sorear, i registered the nick 'root' |
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| 20:56.56 | infinity0 | bucky: i just need to know where the login script for my account is located, since the porblem is only for this account |
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| 20:57.25 | sorear | bucky: no, I mean I had set up so that my hostmask was i=root@.... even though my UID was 1000, just to see how many people would notice |
| 20:57.37 | sorear | bucky: but that configuration seems to have been lost |
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| 20:57.53 | sorear | bucky: since /whois says I have a stefan@... hostmask |
| 20:57.55 | Dureyes | What is the best way to install flsh player?I |
| 20:58.02 | bucky | sorear, that's funny! |
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| 20:59.12 | pmedia | ok, now GDM doesn't start anymore |
| 20:59.23 | pmedia | Now I could post my problem? :) |
| 20:59.30 | pmedia | anyone's hearing me? PING |
| 21:00.03 | wols_ | pmedia: what does your xorg log say? |
| 21:00.04 | pmedia | mhm, no response, but also no error, then I'll start |
| 21:00.12 | pmedia | nothing, that's curious |
| 21:00.13 | bucky | infinity0, i'm not sure.. but prolly somewhere in /etc/Bastille like in Workstation.config or something |
| 21:00.19 | pmedia | it says there aren't any erorrs |
| 21:00.25 | pmedia | but if the PC boots |
| 21:00.36 | pmedia | both screens are just clicking around since last poweroff |
| 21:00.45 | bucky | infinity_, check\ |
| 21:00.52 | wols_ | pmedia: where did you look for errors? |
| 21:01.04 | bucky | /usr/share/doc/bastille |
| 21:01.06 | pmedia | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.06 | simonrvn | pmedia: loud and clear |
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| 21:01.16 | pmedia | k |
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| 21:01.56 | pmedia | Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old |
| 21:02.17 | pmedia | After GDM started, I even couldn't use ttys anymore |
| 21:02.30 | pmedia | the screens just show nothing |
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| 21:05.29 | linnewbye | is there any tool i can use to specify whiwh services to run at startup and which not ? |
| 21:05.50 | streuner | man update-rc.d ? |
| 21:05.59 | linnewbye | streuner: thanks :) |
| 21:06.02 | mbroeker | linnewbye, rcconf is nice |
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| 21:07.11 | linnewbye | mbroeker : thanks, just what i needed |
| 21:07.11 | pmedia | no one knows something against my problem? |
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| 21:08.34 | simonrvn | pmedia: post X log to pastebin for starters |
| 21:08.39 | simonrvn | @paste |
| 21:08.40 | ravenbird | paste.length >= 3 ? `/join #flood' : `/say paste.msg', or paste your output at http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 21:09.03 | linnewbye | mbroeker : is there any tool like this one for setting up ip addreses and dns servers ? i have installed debian about 1 hr ago , did two reboots and every time i had to set them manuallt |
| 21:09.08 | linnewbye | *manually |
| 21:09.33 | simonrvn | too bad it's not here .. again :/ |
| 21:09.34 | pmedia | simonrvn, I couldn't, I am on console and couldn't start x |
| 21:09.42 | pmedia | but the problem looks like nearly solved |
| 21:09.47 | simonrvn | don't need x to do that |
| 21:09.57 | mbroeker | linnewbye, edit /etc/networks/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 21:10.25 | simonrvn | it's called gpm and w3m/links/lynx/... |
| 21:10.45 | pmedia | I know but I don't have copy and paste |
| 21:11.17 | simonrvn | then you don't know otherwise you wouldn't have said that |
| 21:11.46 | pmedia | seems like that |
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| 21:11.59 | pmedia | but #xorg told me that it looks like the nvidia-kernel-module isn't started yet |
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| 21:12.27 | simonrvn | modprobe nvidia |
| 21:12.33 | simonrvn | as root |
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| 21:12.35 | pmedia | yeah, now it started |
| 21:12.36 | *** part/#debian ALEJO22 (n=jano21_1@156-177-21-190.adsl.terra.cl) |
| 21:12.38 | pmedia | but |
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| 21:12.43 | pmedia | there's no autoloading |
| 21:12.56 | simonrvn | /etc/modules will do it for you |
| 21:13.05 | simonrvn | echo nvidia >> /etc/modules |
| 21:13.08 | pmedia | ok |
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| 21:13.36 | ^Timo^ | Hi. |
| 21:13.41 | pmedia | Hi |
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| 21:14.18 | ^Timo^ | i am wondering how can i change users write premissions ? |
| 21:14.42 | spx2 | ^Timo^, write permissions on what ? |
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| 21:14.51 | simonrvn | info chmod |
| 21:14.55 | rto | ^Timo^: man chmod |
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| 21:17.07 | ^Timo^ | yeah i know chmod |
| 21:17.08 | ^Timo^ | ;p |
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| 21:18.51 | drasko | hi all. I just apt-get installed several packages of compiz-fusion. Hohw to make it start? (I can not find any manager application, I don't know how it is called). |
| 21:19.05 | ^Timo^ | users write premissions for one user called deamon this user must have write premissions on some dir |
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| 21:19.16 | ^Timo^ | can it be found and changed with man chmod ? |
| 21:20.03 | HSorgYves | good morning, why does the following not work: grep Nov/2007*GET access_log |
| 21:20.07 | petemc | chown is easier |
| 21:20.33 | sorear | HSorgYves: because grep uses regular expressions, not globs. try .* instead of * |
| 21:20.34 | simonrvn | more useful in this case =) |
| 21:20.43 | petemc | HSorgYves: the shell interprets the slash and the asterisk |
| 21:20.52 | sorear | HSorgYves: and it's good practice to quote the first argument to grep |
| 21:21.02 | HSorgYves | quote using "? |
| 21:21.06 | sorear | or ' |
| 21:21.18 | petemc | or escape |
| 21:21.18 | drasko | hi all. I just apt-get installed several packages of compiz-fusion. Hohw to make it start? (I can not find any manager application, I don't know how it is called). |
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| 21:21.27 | sorear | petemc: only if that matches something - if he doesn't have a Nov/ dir, the shell won't touch it. (but good habits are good) |
| 21:21.56 | petemc | yz, i read it as a forward slash |
| 21:22.04 | HSorgYves | sorear, petemc: thx, works fine |
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| 21:22.13 | jelly-home | drasko: oh, is fusion in debian already? |
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| 21:22.59 | petemc | erm |
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| 21:23.20 | MrTelephone | where is the dpkg sources file? |
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| 21:23.28 | DDave | Vista does hide the partitions right? *Couldn't install debian..* |
| 21:23.58 | sorear | MrTelephone: wherever you put it. dpkg just installs stuff, it doesn't use sources files - that's apt's job |
| 21:24.16 | MrTelephone | i mean the file that stores the "access" sites |
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| 21:24.25 | sorear | MrTelephone: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:24.36 | sorear | MrTelephone: run apt-get update after editing that |
| 21:24.59 | MrTelephone | why isn't the cd source not listed in there |
| 21:25.01 | MrTelephone | there must be another file |
| 21:25.56 | MrTelephone | nevermind |
| 21:26.03 | MrTelephone | i was looking in the wrong putty |
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| 21:28.33 | minus_ | how did the dpkg search line look like? "dpkg -S $()" |
| 21:28.37 | minus_ | is it like that? |
| 21:29.04 | HSorgYves | if I use quotes, how can I get a variable resolved? |
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| 21:29.29 | minus_ | "something command" is supposed to be inside the parenthesis's. But what was it? |
| 21:29.49 | MrTelephone | where is libtermcap |
| 21:30.22 | mentor | which |
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| 21:31.41 | minus_ | mentor, than you |
| 21:31.45 | minus_ | thank* |
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| 21:31.56 | bucky | MrTelephone, libncurses5-dev |
| 21:32.09 | tix64 | HSorgYves: the variable is interpolated when used inside double quotes. |
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| 21:32.55 | HSorgYves | tix64: thx works fine! used ' so far... |
| 21:33.27 | MrTelephone | I just installed that but I'll try again |
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| 21:34.45 | peter__ | hi |
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| 21:35.30 | peter__ | how to check what version of some packages do I have? For example how to check what version of glibc do I own? |
| 21:35.38 | mentor | man dpkg |
| 21:36.52 | Bauldrick | wheres a good howto for setting up bluetooth just command line |
| 21:36.57 | ^Timo^ | strange thing though i can not found any user synopsis for chmod to change only dirpremissions for one spec user only |
| 21:37.35 | ^Timo^ | anyone knows the chmod string to set user premission for a spec /dir/ |
| 21:37.38 | ^Timo^ | ? |
| 21:38.12 | bucky | MrTelephone, what are you doing? running make menuconfig? install ncurses |
| 21:38.34 | sorear | ^Timo^: You can't do it, that's just not how UNIX permissions work. |
| 21:38.38 | MrTelephone | no i git it working |
| 21:38.41 | MrTelephone | got |
| 21:38.51 | MrTelephone | installing some drivers for some t1 cad |
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| 21:38.52 | MrTelephone | rd |
| 21:39.14 | MrTelephone | had to reinstall because I frigged up and installed on a 300 meg partition and ran out of space |
| 21:39.40 | cloakable | lol |
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| 21:39.57 | MrTelephone | quicker to just reinstall |
| 21:40.13 | peter__ | mentor, can you give me some exampla with package that is 100% on my debian? |
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| 21:40.55 | mentor | peter__: What are you currently trying? |
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| 21:41.48 | linnewbye | mbroeker : i've edited /etc/networks/interfaces and it now asings my ip addresses corectly, there's also an option called "dns-nameservers" in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn't have efect it seems, i've also edited /etc/resolv.conf but after reboot it's content is replaced with this line "# generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!". so how do i invoke this "NetworkManager" in order to generate a resolv.conf with the nameservers i want ? |
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| 21:42.09 | peter__ | mentor, well, Im trying to understand something... When I want to install program, that needs GCC I would like to know do I already have this and what version is it |
| 21:42.34 | astronaute | hello guys :) |
| 21:42.37 | petemc | &version |
| 21:42.38 | aptitude | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version |
| 21:42.39 | boulbul | Hi, I have a ibm x61 running the lenny version of debian. My laptop used to work fine... I decided to disable the bluetooth from the bios so I can cut the power consemption, now that I want it back, I am enable to get it working again... any help please |
| 21:42.54 | astronaute | can someone please tell me how to switch debian in UTF8 ? |
| 21:42.55 | wols_ | petemc: dpkg -l gcc |
| 21:43.01 | petemc | cheers |
| 21:43.15 | wols_ | astronaute: by default, etch already is |
| 21:43.30 | astronaute | well i have weird encoding issues on my server |
| 21:43.35 | astronaute | headers are in utf8 php5 too |
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| 21:43.45 | peter__ | thanks, dpkg -l is working |
| 21:43.48 | astronaute | but stiill it seems to be iso as I have strange chars |
| 21:43.50 | ^Timo^ | sorear : how do you explain this : http://pastebin.com/db693fd1 |
| 21:44.03 | wols_ | astronaute: what is the output of locale? |
| 21:44.25 | bucky | peter__, gcc --version |
| 21:44.37 | astronaute | wols_LANG=en_GB |
| 21:44.41 | peter__ | bucky, it also works, thanks |
| 21:44.42 | astronaute | LANG=en_GB |
| 21:44.49 | wols_ | astronaute: so you don't run utf8 |
| 21:44.50 | ^Timo^ | anyone that can explain this http://pastebin.com/db693fd1 ? |
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| 21:44.53 | wols_ | !tell astronaute about locale |
| 21:45.02 | ^Timo^ | from what to do ? |
| 21:45.05 | astronaute | well how to change it then please ? |
| 21:45.06 | mbroeker | linnewbye, start network-manager-gnome or network-manager-kde and check your settings ... |
| 21:45.16 | sorear | ^Timo^: it's like how you can say 'x must be greater that 2 and less than 5', but you can't in general say 'let x be a number less than a and greater than b' |
| 21:45.31 | bucky | astronaute, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:45.44 | mbroeker | linnewbye, i do not use dhcp and therefore i do not need a nwm. |
| 21:45.45 | bucky | and check the UTF box |
| 21:45.50 | astronaute | bucky that will switch to utf? |
| 21:46.01 | astronaute | bucky on SSH its works too ? |
| 21:46.20 | ^Timo^ | hmm hmmm. ? |
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| 21:47.15 | r-wolf | I'm using Synaptic to examine if OSS 4.0 is installed. Having Properties/Installed files opened, I see /usr/lib dir, although it doesn't exist in my system. Trying to uninstall the package, no luck: pre-removal script returns error 127. What should I do to fix the situation? |
| 21:47.23 | peter__ | So, If I want to install glibc 2.2... I try aptitude install glibc but it gives me choice of few packages. Should I install them all? |
| 21:48.03 | warriorness | hi all, I'm trying to put a debian install on a 700 MHz Athlon server using the netinst CD, and it will get a certain (always different) way through the install and just hang. I've had it hang on formatting the partition, detecting hardware, unpacking util-linux, and configuring libbz2 so far. Anybody know what's going on? |
| 21:48.10 | linnewbye | mbroeker : neither do i , so i should remove the package nvm and it would not replace the content of the /etc/resolv.conf anynmore ? |
| 21:48.21 | wols_ | petemc: there is no such package. and why libc6 2.2? that is not available anymore for a long time |
| 21:48.28 | bucky | ^Timo^, what ever dir you want "Dav On" has to have apache's user and group perms in debian that www-data.www-data |
| 21:48.32 | wols_ | petemc: apt-cache show libc6 and you already have it installed |
| 21:48.40 | petemc | wtf |
| 21:48.43 | peter__ | wols_, http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Homeworld%20SDL |
| 21:48.48 | petemc | oh |
| 21:49.06 | wols_ | petemc: glibc 2.2 OR LATER |
| 21:49.09 | infinity0 | does anyone know where i can get help with bastille? |
| 21:49.26 | petemc | wols_: easy with the nick completion |
| 21:49.27 | bucky | ^Timo^, ownership rather... chown www-data.www-data |
| 21:49.35 | infinity0 | the firewall is screwing with my filesharing :/ |
| 21:49.38 | wols_ | petemc: rename yourself! :P |
| 21:49.46 | petemc | i was here first! |
| 21:50.14 | astronaute | bucky i just choose fr_FR UTF8 UTF8 but now if I type "locale" I have 3 errors and then all en_GB LC_ things |
| 21:50.21 | astronaute | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
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| 21:51.09 | mbroeker | linnewbye, remove the network-manager completely from your system with --purge and edit interfaces and resolv.conf. that will do the trick... |
| 21:51.09 | bucky | astronaute, you want french? check all the fr_* boxes |
| 21:51.29 | astronaute | well i want my server to br utf8 |
| 21:51.30 | astronaute | ok ill try |
| 21:52.04 | peter__ | wols_, there is glibc-2.3.6-2 |
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| 21:52.14 | linnewbye | mbroeker : apt-get uninstall --purge network-manager , right ? |
| 21:52.15 | peter__ | wols_, and I dont have it on my debian |
| 21:52.23 | mbroeker | linnewbye, yes, man! |
| 21:52.38 | wols_ | peter__: you have a libc6 and that is what you need for it. if you didn't you wouldn't be here |
| 21:52.57 | peter__ | wols_, so glibc is older wersion of libc6 ? |
| 21:52.58 | astronaute | Generating locales Ok but perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 21:53.00 | mbroeker | linnewbye, hm. i use apt-get remove --purge anyway. |
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| 21:53.15 | wols_ | no. libc6 is the glibc |
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| 21:53.46 | linnewbye | mbroeker : err , i mean remove yes, thanks, i'll reboot now |
| 21:54.00 | h3sp4wn | peter__: libc6 == glibc |
| 21:54.01 | astronaute | perl_cont: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset) LC_ALL = (unset) LANG = "en_GB" are supported and installed on your system. |
| 21:54.01 | peter__ | hm.... ok |
| 21:54.06 | mbroeker | linnewbye, i wish you luck... |
| 21:54.06 | astronaute | whats s up please i messed up ? |
| 21:54.09 | bucky | astronaute, login and out.. apt-get install --reinstall locales and start over |
| 21:54.10 | warriorness | Does anybody know what could cause the netinst CD to completely hang at random times during the installation? |
| 21:54.25 | h3sp4wn | peter__: (<=libc5 was the linux fork) |
| 21:54.31 | wols_ | astronaute: you haven't set any locale. it's only a warning but an annoying one |
| 21:54.43 | wols_ | warriorness: acpi or apic |
| 21:54.54 | astronaute | wols_ i checked all 2 boxes for fr_FR in config |
| 21:54.58 | astronaute | 3 boxes |
| 21:55.03 | warriorness | wols_: acpi, I think. Why? |
| 21:55.24 | wols_ | warriorness: I meant that's what could cause the hangs |
| 21:55.25 | bucky | astronaute, you might have to log out and back in for it to take effect |
| 21:55.31 | wols_ | warriorness: either of them |
| 21:55.33 | warriorness | wols_: oh, hmmm |
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| 21:56.04 | astronaute | ok its done i typed --reinstall with apt get |
| 21:56.08 | astronaute | it seems to work now |
| 21:56.09 | astronaute | =) |
| 21:56.13 | astronaute | thank you |
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| 21:57.20 | peter__ | h3sp4wn, so, how to check what version of libc do I have? |
| 21:57.43 | peter__ | h3sp4wn, by using console |
| 21:57.50 | mbroeker | peter__, execute it. it works no bs |
| 21:58.25 | peter__ | mbroeker, I cant check the version of it like version of gcc? |
| 21:58.32 | warriorness | wols_: what if the machine stops responding to ping when the freeze happens? |
| 21:58.33 | boulbul | hi, I have an ibm x61... I can see from the dmesg output that the device exists but I can not get it to work anymore... it used to work fine... any help please |
| 21:58.34 | boulbul | ? |
| 21:58.49 | mbroeker | peter__, mbroeker@largo:~$ /lib/i686/cmov/libc-2.7.so |
| 21:59.04 | mbroeker | i execute it and get a long description of it... |
| 21:59.20 | h3sp4wn | peter__: You can tell quite easily by just - ls -l /lib/libc-*.so (quite likely) |
| 21:59.21 | sorear | peter__: your glibc is new enough, don't worry. there are essentially no incompatible changes, if you installed your system in the last decade it |
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| 22:00.36 | h3sp4wn | sorear: There is some incompatible changes (hence why I cannot run recent versions of Matlab on brandz) |
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| 22:01.29 | wols_ | peter__: dpkg -l libc6 |
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| 22:01.43 | wols_ | boulbul: what device? |
| 22:02.00 | boulbul | wols: it is an ibm x61 |
| 22:02.04 | peter__ | wols_, working, thanks :) |
| 22:02.07 | wols_ | boulbul: that is no answer to my question |
| 22:02.16 | Agiofws | would this limit ssh connections iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eeho -–dport 22 –syn -m limit –limit 1/m –limit-burst 3 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 –-dport 22 –syn -j DROP |
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| 22:02.26 | boulbul | sorry once sec |
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| 22:03.31 | boulbul | wols_:Bluetooth: Core ver 2.10, is it the right answer? |
| 22:03.51 | wols_ | boulbul: not really but it seems you need to get bluetooth working |
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| 22:04.01 | wols_ | &laptop |
| 22:04.02 | aptitude | extra, extra, read all about it, laptop is All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad> |
| 22:04.10 | wols_ | &thinkpad |
| 22:04.10 | aptitude | well, thinkpad is one of the best laptops you can buy, the problems only occur with very old versions, or http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/, or a thing that dies when your car hits it, according to abrotman. http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki, or some may also restrict Mini PCI card usage, see http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/thinkpad/wireless.html, or <mwavem> |
| 22:04.27 | boulbul | wols: thinkpad x61 |
| 22:04.31 | wols_ | boulbul: google for the thinkwiki |
| 22:04.52 | boulbul | wols:thanks |
| 22:05.01 | Vasistha | So, I'm using my middle mouse button as a trigger for wheel-scrolling ... however it's still pasting, when I let go of the button after I've finished scrolling! I have tried a number of different EmulateWheelTimeOut settings, and none seems to work ... can I just turn off middle button paste events? |
| 22:07.30 | DustyBin | i got SSL / https working, my next mission is getting postfix to encrypt emails |
| 22:07.39 | DustyBin | if i send out a email, would SSL / TLS only be activated if the server its going to is SSL / TLS enabled? |
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| 22:08.25 | wols_ | DustyBin: you (almost) never send mail to another serevr via TLS/SSL |
| 22:08.38 | mbroeker | DustyBin, you need a communication endpoint which supports tls/ssl |
| 22:08.40 | cast | seems 70% pointless to encrypt something only 10% of the way |
| 22:08.42 | wols_ | DustyBin: so, no |
| 22:09.03 | DustyBin | ok |
| 22:09.04 | sorear | much better to use end-to-end encryption |
| 22:09.13 | sorear | which you set up in your email client |
| 22:09.23 | DustyBin | my client is squirrelmail |
| 22:09.30 | DustyBin | what talks to imaps what talks to postfix |
| 22:09.37 | DustyBin | all on same server |
| 22:10.07 | DustyBin | so am i right in thinking that 95% of emails are unencrypted on this day and age ? |
| 22:10.17 | Vasistha | DustyBin: maybe more |
| 22:10.21 | DustyBin | jeeze |
| 22:10.29 | DustyBin | in the age of ID theft... |
| 22:10.33 | mbroeker | i am signing my outgoing mails with gnupg and and n00bs with outlook believe always that i am trying to hack them... |
| 22:10.35 | Vasistha | sad, huh |
| 22:10.37 | cast | since spam is rarely encrypted...must be higher than 95% |
| 22:10.43 | Cusoon959 | lol |
| 22:10.57 | wols_ | DustyBin: if you want encrypted email you don#t want TLS or SSL. you want gpg or s/mime |
| 22:11.03 | BobSapp | mbroeker: that could be used against them by real hackers |
| 22:11.05 | DustyBin | why isnt encryption on emails been enforced over the years? seems odd |
| 22:11.23 | Vasistha | DustyBin: why is security so pathetic over the years? :) |
| 22:11.31 | BobSapp | DustyBin: Governments are genarally against the whole encryption thing |
| 22:11.35 | DustyBin | i see |
| 22:11.43 | dryrot | because the guy who invented sending email over the internet on a wide scale wasnt concerned with security |
| 22:11.46 | BobSapp | case in point 256+ encryption being a US only technology |
| 22:11.49 | DustyBin | i thought the government had the keys to SSL anyway |
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| 22:12.02 | BobSapp | DustyBin: "the keys"? |
| 22:12.11 | DustyBin | or the deciphers or whatever u call them |
| 22:12.13 | BobSapp | you mean a backdoor of some kind ? |
| 22:12.17 | DustyBin | aye |
| 22:12.23 | LiMaO | is there a way to encrypt all internet traffic at system level instead of doing it in each individual application? i'm just trying to avoid and diminish the problems i've been having with traffic shaping by my isp |
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| 22:12.43 | BobSapp | well if thats the case it would render the point of encryption pointless |
| 22:13.01 | cast | LiMaO: openvpn, get a linode for the endpoint or something |
| 22:13.06 | BobSapp | because sooner or later someone would find out the backdoor and all business applications would become comprimised |
| 22:13.16 | DustyBin | ok |
| 22:13.33 | BobSapp | not just businesses but government stuff as well, assuming this backdoor wasnt common knowledge |
| 22:13.36 | mbroeker | dryrot, the original idea of networking was sharing data between universities and a way to publish content. The todays internet is designed to be a private network with the possibility to publish global content... |
| 22:13.51 | LiMaO | cast: i'll check it out |
| 22:13.58 | LiMaO | cast: thank you |
| 22:14.17 | BobSapp | UK govenments and i think FBI can request encryption keys from a suspect, failing to do so is a crime so they have you both ways. |
| 22:14.24 | DustyBin | ok |
| 22:14.31 | cast | BobSapp: same in AU |
| 22:14.45 | DustyBin | what is selinux? |
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| 22:14.51 | DustyBin | nobody seems to know.. |
| 22:14.56 | BobSapp | mathematically an encryption scheme with a backdoor is useless. |
| 22:15.08 | cast | for windows user values of nobody perhaps, check wikipedia |
| 22:15.18 | DustyBin | ok |
| 22:16.03 | BobSapp | cast: I wonder if "I forgot" is a good excuse should you be put in that situation. |
| 22:16.27 | sorear | DustyBin: selinux is a patch (long since merged) adding fine-grained security features, like 'this program can access exactly this list of files' |
| 22:16.54 | cast | BobSapp: complex passwords, stressful situation. i forget sometimes, for a while then remember again |
| 22:16.55 | DustyBin | sorear: so theres nothing dodgy about it at all? |
| 22:17.04 | sorear | DustyBin: not sure if anyone other than the NSA uses it |
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| 22:17.22 | DustyBin | sorear: somone told me that it sends out packets using special network layers what nobody uses or something .. |
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| 22:17.34 | cast | fedora comes with SElinux very ready to use i think |
| 22:17.34 | sorear | DustyBin: well, if you're the conspiracy-theory type, remember it was created by the NSA |
| 22:17.39 | DustyBin | haha |
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| 22:17.47 | DustyBin | no more conspiracy theory for me |
| 22:17.49 | kn0x | hello |
| 22:18.05 | sorear | DustyBin: afaik it does nothing of the sort, it just changes the way permission checks are done |
| 22:18.11 | DustyBin | ok |
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| 22:18.24 | BobSapp | Hmm layers that nobody uses? |
| 22:18.25 | sorear | DustyBin: making it more like the WinNT permissions system, if you've used that |
| 22:18.33 | DustyBin | eeek no thanks |
| 22:18.44 | BobSapp | if that was the case someone would have surely snooped it at the hardware layer which is the lowest layer afaik |
| 22:18.48 | dryrot | what's the difference between Fedora and CentOS ? |
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| 22:19.06 | BobSapp | unless they are using some form of transmission at the signal level |
| 22:19.32 | BobSapp | which would take some coordination since there are variant network hardware setups all hardware vendors would have to comply |
| 22:19.34 | cast | dryrot: really, how is that vaguely ontopic. go check wikipedia |
| 22:19.39 | davidL | Why does dpkg want to remove xorg to install nvidia-glx? |
| 22:19.53 | kn0x | hmm im having a problem with ALSA... seems it is not started properly at boot or something. its running when i firt login, but as nothing can use sound... as soon as i /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload, it kils any processes trying to use it, and then it works from tthen on |
| 22:19.57 | kn0x | any ideas? |
| 22:20.01 | boulbul | wols_: I found good documentation, but it does not solve my problem still, the thing is on the doc they are referring to/proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth... I do not have that on my path |
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| 22:20.06 | glontu | hello |
| 22:20.24 | glontu | where can i get the is with debian and kde ? |
| 22:20.38 | kn0x | glontu: ? |
| 22:20.43 | sorear | glontu: 'the is' is a grammatical error. |
| 22:20.54 | glontu | sorry |
| 22:21.01 | davidL | sorear: hey, do you use nvidia |
| 22:21.02 | dryrot | what's the difference between Fedora and CentOS and Debian ? |
| 22:21.05 | BobSapp | sorear: there should be a bot that makes those kind of responses. |
| 22:21.14 | glontu | i want to install debian with desktop environment |
| 22:21.14 | kn0x | glontu: apt-cache search kde |
| 22:21.16 | DustyBin | this part of selinux looks suspect: if packet$ request = send to <us.government.org> |
| 22:21.26 | boulbul | wols_: I have used a command that I can not find and was suggested to me by powertop to reduce the battery usage.... I think that it disabled it... I do not know how? that is if it is the same prob |
| 22:21.26 | boulbul | ? |
| 22:21.27 | kn0x | glontu: apt-get install packagename |
| 22:21.29 | BobSapp | dryrot: fedora and centos share a similar distribution |
| 22:21.34 | BobSapp | debian doesnt. |
| 22:21.34 | sorear | davidL: maybe, I have no clue what's in my box, I *think* it's a SiS315Pro |
| 22:21.44 | glontu | kn0x: so after the netinst i just add kde and it's done ? |
| 22:21.53 | BobSapp | lol DustyBin, where did you find that? |
| 22:22.00 | DustyBin | BobSapp: in my head :P |
| 22:22.04 | sorear | glontu: yes |
| 22:22.14 | BobSapp | wow |
| 22:22.16 | glontu | cool ... thanks |
| 22:22.17 | kn0x | yeah as long as you have it start x |
| 22:22.26 | davidL | sorear: you started using X recently right? What'd you do before then? |
| 22:22.41 | ^Timo^ | Hi guys |
| 22:22.47 | BobSapp | DustyBin: you should put on your hat to stop those NSA transmissions |
| 22:22.53 | sorear | BobSapp: In a fit of aggravation a few months ago I added a spelling-nazi mode to lambdabot, the resident bot of #haskell and kin channels |
| 22:22.57 | BobSapp | You know, the one made of tin foil? |
| 22:23.00 | glontu | one more thing |
| 22:23.11 | BobSapp | sweet? |
| 22:23.13 | glontu | can i setup the network during the netinst process ? |
| 22:23.14 | BobSapp | heh |
| 22:23.18 | ^Timo^ | damm i am still stuck on this problem #apache channel can't fix it. so i thaught maybe i should ask you guys. http://pastebin.com/d202a42b3 |
| 22:23.26 | sorear | glontu: not 'can', 'must' |
| 22:23.28 | glontu | before it starts searching for the mirrors that is |
| 22:23.33 | ^Timo^ | maybe its debian related i don't know |
| 22:23.35 | ^Timo^ | .. |
| 22:23.43 | ^Timo^ | can you guys look at my pastebin |
| 22:23.45 | sorear | davidL: sisfb and fbcon, of course |
| 22:23.58 | glontu | sorear: how do i set ip gate mask and dns ? |
| 22:24.00 | BobSapp | jees why do boxers insist on talking for so long before fights? |
| 22:24.03 | davidL | sorear: and links -g? |
| 22:24.13 | sorear | davidL: no, links |
| 22:24.17 | davidL | heh |
| 22:24.22 | DustyBin | BobSapp: hehe |
| 22:24.24 | sorear | glontu: answer No to configur-network-automatically |
| 22:24.47 | BobSapp | who won out of hatton and mayweather? |
| 22:24.58 | DustyBin | its on now |
| 22:24.58 | DustyBin | not started yet |
| 22:24.59 | LiMaO | ^Timo^: have you checked to see if that folder does really exist? |
| 22:25.00 | glontu | i don't remember seeing that question ... i'll try to boot it again |
| 22:25.01 | davidL | glontu: or just press cancel if it tries to autoconfigure the network |
| 22:25.03 | BobSapp | damn |
| 22:25.17 | DustyBin | hatton ftw |
| 22:25.22 | BobSapp | uhm |
| 22:25.44 | BobSapp | yeah good luck hatton but i think mayweather physically outclasses hatton in reach height and weight |
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| 22:25.55 | BobSapp | on paper its a no brainer to me |
| 22:25.58 | DustyBin | BobSapp: topic |
| 22:26.01 | BobSapp | yeah. |
| 22:26.04 | LiMaO | ^Timo^: actually you have two folders set where you should have only 1 |
| 22:26.05 | BobSapp | sorry |
| 22:26.15 | DustyBin | i was pretending to be wols_ :D |
| 22:26.26 | davidL | so...why does dpkg want to remove xorg when installing nvidia-glx? |
| 22:26.28 | BobSapp | no sports channels on freenode? |
| 22:27.29 | DustyBin | davidL: are you using etch |
| 22:27.38 | davidL | DustyBin: yes |
| 22:27.54 | DustyBin | what xorg package is it going to remove? |
| 22:28.03 | davidL | uh, all of xorg |
| 22:28.08 | DustyBin | strange.. |
| 22:28.18 | DustyBin | why dont you install it anyway |
| 22:28.20 | DustyBin | then reinstall xorg |
| 22:28.26 | davidL | I suppose |
| 22:28.30 | DustyBin | as long as you dont purge the configs |
| 22:28.36 | DustyBin | everything should stay where it is |
| 22:28.46 | DustyBin | but backup your xorg.conf just in case |
| 22:28.48 | davidL | it's a brandnew install so it doesn't really matter |
| 22:29.00 | DustyBin | even more strange |
| 22:29.05 | DustyBin | check your repos |
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| 22:29.19 | DustyBin | make sure security and the debian repos what you use are both on there |
| 22:29.23 | DustyBin | apt-get update |
| 22:29.25 | DustyBin | then try again |
| 22:29.37 | davidL | I'm using unstable repos, could this be the problem? |
| 22:29.42 | DustyBin | yes.... |
| 22:29.53 | glontu | i just get a screen that says 'configuring network with dhcp' and then it asks me for the hostname . I do have a dhcp server on my network but the ip that it gives me dosn't have access to the internet ... so what to do in order to configure it manually ? |
| 22:29.54 | DustyBin | mix and match stable + unstable = hell |
| 22:30.15 | davidL | gah, I keep thinking etch is testing :-( |
| 22:30.19 | DustyBin | either run a unstable system, a testing system or a stable system, dont mix and match stuff IMO |
| 22:30.36 | davidL | DustyBin: I did a dist-upgrade |
| 22:30.40 | BobSapp | glontu: have you already assigned your machine an ip and hostname onthe dhcp server? |
| 22:30.49 | DustyBin | eek: why dont you just install debian fresh if there isnt much on it |
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| 22:31.00 | glontu | BobSapp: no the dhcp asigns automatically |
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| 22:31.16 | glontu | for every machine that asks for an ip |
| 22:31.19 | BobSapp | glontu: an automatic hostname is assigned? |
| 22:31.24 | glontu | nope |
| 22:31.29 | glontu | it asks me for the hostname |
| 22:32.18 | BobSapp | the dhcp server should set up the machine in a way it should access the net |
| 22:32.20 | davidL | what is the security repo for unstable? |
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| 22:32.31 | Eulex | davidL, there is none |
| 22:32.32 | BobSapp | is your dhcp server a router of some sort or a stand alone machine? |
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| 22:32.43 | davidL | makes sense |
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| 22:32.52 | ultracool | what is violent and threatening behavior? can jerking movement a fidgeting around counts? |
| 22:33.06 | Eulex | davidL, packages are uploaded directly to unstable, so when they upload security fixing packages to unstable they go right into the unstable repo |
| 22:33.18 | glontu | well ... id dosn't recognise the MAC of this computer so it sets it to an ip that dosn't have internet access ... i need to somehow set it manually but id dosn't give me the option |
| 22:33.21 | boulbul | Wol_thanks for the help |
| 22:33.22 | fasta | ultracool: trolling is a delicate business. Try again. |
| 22:33.50 | glontu | if i disconnect the switch from the network .. you think it will let me configure it manually then ? |
| 22:34.13 | dryrot | is there something like OmniGraffle for debian ? |
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| 22:34.28 | BobSapp | wow why would people troll on #debian? |
| 22:34.39 | ultracool | what is violent and threatening behavior? can jerking movement a fidgeting around counts? |
| 22:35.07 | BobSapp | ultracool: yes now begone before i fidget you to death |
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| 22:36.11 | ultracool | what is violent and threatening behavior? can jerking movement a fidgeting around counts? |
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| 22:37.03 | dryrot | u_ltracool sure is on a lot of channels |
| 22:37.39 | fasta | !ops |
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| 22:39.10 | ^Timo^ | LiMaO : yes i have checked them and they exists. and yes i have configt them on 2 .confs httpd.conf and httpd-vhosts.conf |
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| 22:41.03 | linnewbye | i'm trying to install nvidia drivers for my video card, i have to switch to runlevel 3 in order to get a text console instead the X server, i tried telinit 3 but it doesnt work , also modified the default runlevel from 2 to 3 in /etc/inittab but it didn't work, any ideeas how can i swith to runlevel 3 without x ? |
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| 22:41.26 | cast | why not just hit ctrl-alt-f1 |
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| 22:41.30 | ^Timo^ | LiMaO : the thing is when i change the docroot in httpd.conf and i start the apache2 webserver with /bin/./apachectl start it still gives the direction of the /usr/local/apache/ as document root or could it be that apache didn't see /var/www/knowledgeshare/ ? it seems like i the httpd-vhosts.conf file complains about the docuroot setting |
| 22:41.33 | ^Timo^ | . |
| 22:41.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | linnewbye, this is not redhat |
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| 22:42.08 | Leetziggaj | hey |
| 22:42.10 | Leetziggaj | need some helop |
| 22:42.12 | Leetziggaj | i just came from the |
| 22:42.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | !tell Leetziggaj about enter |
| 22:42.21 | Leetziggaj | mysql forums |
| 22:42.37 | h3sp4wn | linnewbye: You can use update-rc.d (to remove {k,x,g,}dm from runlevel 3 |
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| 22:43.01 | Leetziggaj | hey can anyone help me http://pastebin.com/m7c4aa1db |
| 22:43.22 | linnewbye | Kamping_Kaiser :), i'm more into slackware :P |
| 22:43.33 | LiMaO | ^Timo^: you shoudl edit the config file and set your document root to a single folder. |
| 22:43.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | linnewbye, debian has 4 runlevels - 0,1,5(iirc),6. the otheres arnt used |
| 22:44.04 | Leetziggaj | sorry |
| 22:44.07 | Leetziggaj | that is the post for the .sh |
| 22:44.15 | cast | h3sp4wn: better to just invoke-rc.d *dm stop wouldn't you say fir sych a temporary thing |
| 22:44.19 | Leetziggaj | here i have the post for the problem in my command line http://pastebin.com/m5945b00d |
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| 22:44.22 | cast | for such* |
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| 22:45.00 | h3sp4wn | cast: If you always want to be able to shutdown that doing by init is as good a way as any |
| 22:45.25 | linnewbye | h3sp4wn, Kamping_Kaiser : the man says : "System administrators are not encouraged to use update-rc.d to manage runlevels. They should edit the links directly or use runlevel editors such as sysv-rc-conf and bum instead." |
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| 22:45.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | linnewbye, so install sysv-rc-conf and go crazy :) |
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| 22:46.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | its just a wrapper around update-rc.d anyway iirc |
| 22:46.11 | linnewbye | h3sp4wn, Kamping_Kaiser so i installed sysv-rc-conf and stoped x11-common from runlevel 3, but it didn;t work |
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| 22:46.24 | h3sp4wn | linnewbye: not x11-common |
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| 22:46.36 | Leetziggaj | anybody help, im getting this error when trying to instal the Database.. |
| 22:46.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | linnewbye, [gxk]dm |
| 22:46.44 | h3sp4wn | linnewbye: gdm / xdm or kdm (or entrance) |
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| 22:47.05 | linnewbye | h3sp4wn , Kamping_Kaiser thanks |
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| 22:47.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | Leetziggaj, surely its a mysql problem? |
| 22:47.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | linnewbye, no worries |
| 22:47.37 | Leetziggaj | yeah i asked there they had nothing., |
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| 22:47.59 | simonrvn | linnewbye: debian doesn't do that rc3 weirdness with x |
| 22:48.03 | ^Timo^ | LiMaO : ok. where do i change it in httpd-vhosts.conf and in httpd.conf ? ps. httpd-vhosts.conf the configured vhost must be directed to a dir where the files from the host are stored. config/docroot should be wrong ? |
| 22:48.20 | Leetziggaj | Kamping_Kaiser, i asked there |
| 22:48.45 | Leetziggaj | Kamping_Kaiser, they gave me nothing, and i dont want to give up on this project, but im stuck in a hole here, i have no clue wht to do. |
| 22:48.52 | LiMaO | ^Timo^: check all files. remove any and all instances to a document root where your files are NOT stored. keep only the place where your files really are. |
| 22:49.01 | Leetziggaj | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.11 | Leetziggaj | http://pastebin.com/m7c4aa1db .sh file that is the problem |
| 22:50.15 | bucky | Leetziggaj, that's java right? |
| 22:50.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | Leetziggaj, my advice is formulate a question, go and ask #mysql, then wait for an answer, instead of the rambling spamming your giving us here. even formulate a question and ask here i guess |
| 22:50.42 | bucky | Leetziggaj, you got libmysql-java installed? |
| 22:50.58 | Leetziggaj | not sure?? |
| 22:51.02 | Leetziggaj | i have java SDK installed |
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| 22:51.27 | bucky | Leetziggaj, you need JDBC to talk to mysql |
| 22:51.32 | Leetziggaj | MySQL Connector/J v3.1.14 JDBC |
| 22:51.34 | Leetziggaj | i have that installed? |
| 22:51.53 | Nostahl | i just installed debian and then i installed xfce4 ..how do i get rid of gnome now? |
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| 22:52.02 | bucky | Leetziggaj, prolly a PATH problem |
| 22:52.20 | Leetziggaj | hmmmm.. but im not sure if its instllaed it in a folder unziped |
| 22:52.24 | Leetziggaj | like what else do i ahve to do to install it |
| 22:52.29 | Leetziggaj | its just like a few files in a folder??? |
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| 22:53.39 | bucky | Leetziggaj, and another thing.. debian doesn't put it's mysql socket in /tmp.. might look into that |
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| 22:54.00 | Leetziggaj | ok.. |
| 22:54.02 | Leetziggaj | lol |
| 22:54.04 | Leetziggaj | that is a problem |
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| 22:54.23 | Nostahl | what all is involved in removing gnome? now that i have xfce4 |
| 22:54.50 | h3sp4wn | !remove gnome |
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| 22:55.00 | Vasistha | I'm trying to build the madwifi modules for 2.6.22-3 (kernel from etch-backports). The build failed, with: Checking kernel configuration... FAILED / Please enable wireless extensions. I checked /boot/config-2.6.22-3-686, and it includes CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=y |
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| 22:55.23 | h3sp4wn | Vasistha: Which madwifi version ? |
| 22:55.27 | linnewbye | Kamping_Kaiser , h3sp4wn : ok, stoped gdm and worked like a charm. it seems i need to get the kernel source tree in order to install the drivers properly, now i have a question regarding apt-get, i see it doesn't have a --search option, i would like to search for packages that contain the expression "kernel" in their name in order to find out the name of the package containing the kernel headers, how can i do that ? |
| 22:55.37 | Vasistha | h3sp4wn: how do I find out? It's the version in etch/stable |
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| 22:55.59 | bucky | Leetziggaj, you can redefine that behaviour in /etc/mysql/my.cnf and restart mysql if you have to |
| 22:56.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | linnewbye, `apt-get search foo` |
| 22:56.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | !tell linnewbye about nvidia |
| 22:56.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | !tell linnewbye about nvidia one liner |
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| 22:56.42 | Nostahl | is the bot not working? |
| 22:56.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | looks like it :( |
| 22:56.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | aptitude, nvidia |
| 22:56.52 | aptitude | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
| 22:56.52 | Vasistha | Nostahl: use apt, with a trigger of @ |
| 22:56.59 | PerfDave | I've got a file, on a disk, which is a disk image (created with "ddrescue if=/dev/sda of=thisfile"). The disk has two primary partitions. How do I mount the partitions out of the disk image file? |
| 22:57.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | aptitude, nvidia one-liner |
| 22:57.02 | aptitude | methinks nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. |
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| 22:57.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | linnewbye, ^^^ |
| 22:57.26 | Vasistha | h3sp4wn: maybe I need to get the 0.9.3 version from testing? |
| 22:57.31 | Nostahl | aptitude, remove gnome |
| 22:57.32 | aptitude | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about <install gnome>), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 22:57.32 | linnewbye | Kamping_Kaiser : uber-bot ;)) |
| 22:57.36 | h3sp4wn | Vasistha: What is the version number of the package ? |
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| 22:57.58 | h3sp4wn | Vasistha: I think it needs 0.9.3 at least (But earlier versions have security issues) |
| 22:58.09 | Vasistha | h3sp4wn: alright, I'll try it. Thanks! |
| 22:58.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | linnewbye, :) it has to be called directly. dpkg (when its here) usually responds to ! |
| 22:58.51 | linnewbye | Kamping_Kaiser : debian:~# apt-get search kernel |
| 22:58.51 | linnewbye | E: Invalid operation search |
| 22:59.24 | Vasistha | h3sp4wn: indeed, starting with kernel 2.6.19, >=0.9.3 is required: http://madwifi.org/ticket/1029 ... thanks for pointing me there |
| 22:59.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | linnewbye, sorry, `apt-cache search` |
| 22:59.28 | Nostahl | can i make aptitude send me a message with the info instead of spewing in thechannel so i dont have to keep track of it? |
| 22:59.38 | linnewbye | Kamping_Kaiser : thanks |
| 22:59.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | Nostahl, PM aptitude |
| 22:59.50 | Nostahl | that makes sence :P |
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| 22:59.53 | eth01 | apititude ask |
| 22:59.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | ;) |
| 23:00.01 | h3sp4wn | aptitude, madwifi-source sid |
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| 23:00.11 | h3sp4wn | aptitude, info madwifi-source sid |
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| 23:02.37 | CyberGabber | .wc |
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| 23:03.34 | DustyBin | ive compiled a little tool in /usr/local/ and it has a log file, where is the official place to put the log file? should i create a /usr/local/var/log folder ? |
| 23:03.54 | bucky | heck yah |
| 23:04.32 | Cusoon959 | How do I change the default browser? |
| 23:04.43 | \amethyst | Cusoon959: In Gnome? |
| 23:04.46 | h3sp4wn | Cusoon959: update-alternatives |
| 23:05.22 | \amethyst | Cusoon959: gnome-default-applications-properties ("Preferred Applications" in the control center) to set the Gnome default |
| 23:05.55 | Cusoon959 | thanks :) |
| 23:06.00 | Cusoon959 | yeah, in GNOME |
| 23:06.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | DustyBin, /var/log? |
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| 23:06.23 | DustyBin | im confused, /usr should really be for static files, not logs |
| 23:06.31 | DustyBin | i think /var/log it will be |
| 23:06.32 | HS^ | i installed kdevelop and its a old version? |
| 23:06.43 | HS^ | i updated apt before installing |
| 23:06.51 | HS^ | so how i get the new kdevelop 3.5 |
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| 23:07.14 | HS^ | this one looks almost 2 year old.. |
| 23:07.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | DustyBin, /usr/local is the sysadmins playground (effectively), but on debian its meant for installing into, not logging in :) |
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| 23:09.23 | HS^ | it sais this version |
| 23:09.25 | HS^ | kdevelop_3.3.5-1_i386.deb |
| 23:09.36 | HS^ | ooh wait |
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| 23:11.56 | DustyBin | Kamping_Kaiser: i have another file what will change quite a bit: playlist.lst ,where is a good place to put that? |
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| 23:12.52 | DustyBin | interesting, ive found /var/local <-- maybe here ? |
| 23:13.04 | DustyBin | var = variable |
| 23:13.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | DustyBin, /tmp if its new each time |
| 23:13.14 | Tramp | After randomly upgrading some hundred packages on my lenny-laptop, I see that the fontsize in gnome-related applications changed. Which file defines the mapping between fonts "as gnome knows them" and the real X-fonts? |
| 23:13.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | not sure where /var/local/ fits in the hfs |
| 23:13.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | aptitude, hfs |
| 23:13.23 | aptitude | it has been said that hfs is the Apple Hierarchial File System, the default filesystem on the Mac OS. HFS+, which appeared in MacOS 8.1 and later, supports smaller block sizes, and UNIX-like features such as symlinks and device stubs. Tools for dealing with either filesystem are in the "hfsutils" and "hfsplus" Debian packages. It's also said to be the Horrible File System, or HOLY FUCKEN SHIT, or see hfsplus |
| 23:13.25 | DustyBin | Kamping_Kaiser: its not really a temporary file, its used by a application |
| 23:13.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm. thats not what i want |
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| 23:13.48 | DustyBin | Kamping_Kaiser: maybe /var/local is for local variable files ? |
| 23:13.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | DustyBin, /var/lib/<app> perhaps (unsure though) |
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| 23:14.39 | DustyBin | the binary is in /usr/local/bin the conf file is in /usr/local/etc the log is in /var/log and the playlist.lst file will go in /var/local |
| 23:14.45 | darkstego | hi, are their weekly testing build CD isos still available? |
| 23:15.11 | Vasistha | h3sp4wn: huh, I wonder if madwifi tools 0.9.2 will work with madwifi source 0.9.3 ... the tools seem to hook into lenny's libc6 :P |
| 23:15.27 | DustyBin | maybe i should of created a /var/local/log directory |
| 23:15.34 | darkstego | because I can only find DVDs now |
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| 23:15.56 | h3sp4wn | Vasistha: the source package is "madwifi" you can almost certainly do an easy simple sid backport |
| 23:16.31 | HS^ | what if i want to update apt source list with information from here: |
| 23:16.32 | Vasistha | h3sp4wn: is that wiser than simply installing the package from lenny? |
| 23:16.34 | HS^ | http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/k/kdevelop/ |
| 23:16.38 | bucky | darkstego, first hit on google http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 23:16.44 | HS^ | i want to install the latest kdevelop basicly.. |
| 23:16.56 | bucky | debian testing install cd |
| 23:16.58 | HS^ | someone can help, thanks |
| 23:17.09 | h3sp4wn | Vasistha: If its linked against a later libc6 it is safer (Or if there is a newer madwifi-tools in backports.org you could use them) |
| 23:17.19 | cast | anyone know why my printer would work fine with cups in debian i386 but in amd64 not work? [it heats up, almost starts to print then does nothing]. i would have thought it would be platform independant hopefully |
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| 23:17.48 | Vasistha | cast: could be the driver you're using is a 32 bit driver |
| 23:18.01 | Vasistha | h3sp4wn: alright, thanks again! |
| 23:18.42 | bucky | HS^, what version of debian are you using? |
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| 23:18.59 | HS^ | bucky how do i find out? .. i installed with CoLinux |
| 23:19.01 | helo | i just installed the firebird2.0 db server, and when i try to start it through init.d, it says * Use 'dpkg-reconfigure firebird2.0-super' to enable |
| 23:19.08 | helo | but when i run that, it only asks for my password |
| 23:19.28 | HS^ | i think its edgy |
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| 23:19.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | eg ubuntu? |
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| 23:20.03 | bucky | prolly gutsy has the latest version of kdevelop |
| 23:20.08 | cast | helo: check the README.Debian, sometimes in /etc/defaults/ they default to STARTUP=no or something simular |
| 23:20.46 | bucky | HS^, if you have edgy do an dist-upgrade to gutsy and ask in #ubuntu |
| 23:20.49 | HS^ | not there |
| 23:20.59 | HS^ | why ubuntu? its not ubuntu |
| 23:21.02 | helo | ahh, found it, thanks cast |
| 23:21.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | HS^, "edgy" or "etch"? |
| 23:21.13 | bucky | HS^, edgy is ubuntu |
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| 23:21.17 | HS^ | etch |
| 23:21.22 | HS^ | wait |
| 23:21.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | HS^, `uname -a` will tell you |
| 23:21.33 | HS^ | it doesnt tried that |
| 23:21.43 | bucky | HS^, if you don't know what you installed on your computer then i can't help you |
| 23:21.43 | HS^ | inux debian 2.6.12-co-0.7.1 #1 Sat Jul 14 12:13:49 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 23:22.09 | HS^ | ok its etch |
| 23:22.14 | bucky | i don't know about colinux |
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| 23:22.46 | simonrvn | they have a channel here i think |
| 23:22.48 | HS^ | its pretty cool, allows me to run kdevelop on win. |
| 23:23.06 | stopher | I'm getting Failed to start Xserver. What dpkg command can I use to fix this and boot into Etch 4's GNOME GUI? |
| 23:23.37 | wols_ | stopher: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 23:23.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | aptitude, drxx |
| 23:23.39 | aptitude | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about <xmd5sum> if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 23:23.44 | HS^ | but someone can tell me how to upgrade to the latest packages here: |
| 23:23.44 | HS^ | http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/k/kdevelop/ |
| 23:23.53 | wols_ | stopher: but first find out what actuals doesn't work |
| 23:23.59 | wols_ | !tell HS^ about grounding |
| 23:24.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | HS^, looked for backports? |
| 23:24.02 | HS^ | i dit apt-get update .. no worky |
| 23:24.04 | wols_ | &tell HS^ about grounding |
| 23:24.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | wols_, is aptitude & ? |
| 23:24.21 | wols_ | yes |
| 23:24.30 | HS^ | i read the document: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ch-dpkg.html |
| 23:24.34 | HS^ | .. |
| 23:24.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | thanks, i'll remember that :) |
| 23:24.55 | wols_ | HS^: what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 23:25.45 | stopher | thanks guys :) |
| 23:26.58 | HS^ | wols, this; |
| 23:26.59 | stopher | wols_: I just ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, rebooted and got the same error? |
| 23:26.59 | HS^ | http://rafb.net/p/M7II5R46.html |
| 23:27.04 | HS^ | wols: http://rafb.net/p/M7II5R46.html |
| 23:27.21 | bucky | if you want to run the *latest* kdevelop, that would necessarily mean you would need kde 3.5 i would think and that's only available in unstable and i wouldn't advise that, |
| 23:27.23 | DustyBin | one last question for the night, no more after this i need a break from computers. because ive placed a .log in /var/log manually, how can i get debian to .gz and rotate the log ? |
| 23:27.52 | wols_ | stopher: I told you you need to find out WHY you got an error |
| 23:27.53 | simonrvn | logrotate |
| 23:28.05 | wols_ | stopher: and rebooting due to an X error is simply stupid |
| 23:28.08 | DustyBin | simonrvn: logrotate /var/log/filename ? |
| 23:28.19 | HS^ | actually i have kde 3.5 |
| 23:28.23 | DustyBin | after one hit of that would it do it automatically ? |
| 23:28.24 | HS^ | so thats not the proble,m |
| 23:28.27 | simonrvn | no, see logrotate package |
| 23:28.29 | wols_ | HS^: so simply install kdevelop |
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| 23:28.34 | DustyBin | ok |
| 23:28.37 | stopher | wols_: I'm pretty stupid then, after I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg last time I had this problem (on this computer) it worked perfectly. |
| 23:28.38 | HS^ | wols_, the thing is how. .. |
| 23:28.46 | HS^ | i cant make apt update to it |
| 23:28.58 | wols_ | &tell HS^ about bat |
| 23:29.01 | HS^ | im used to bsd ports |
| 23:29.14 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 23:29.59 | HS^ | theres no output. i do apt-get update. after that i expect that it refers to the latest packages. but apt-cache show kdevelop shows an old version |
| 23:30.13 | Vasistha | ping |
| 23:30.29 | wols_ | HS^: that's what etch has, deal with it |
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| 23:30.47 | simonrvn | Vasistha: pong |
| 23:30.50 | wols_ | &info kdevelop etch |
| 23:30.57 | HS^ | so.. how do i install 3.5 it has soime features i need |
| 23:30.58 | aptitude | kdevelop: (An IDE for Unix/X11), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.5-1 (etch), Packaged size: 8340 kB, Installed size: 29172 kB |
| 23:31.06 | HS^ | yes.. 3.3 |
| 23:31.17 | Vasistha | thanks :) well, I've almost got the wireless working! getting the darn thing to switch connections, though, always seems to be a pain |
| 23:31.19 | HS^ | they fixed some important stuff in 3.5 |
| 23:31.50 | HS^ | so no way to install it through apt? |
| 23:31.50 | wols_ | HS^: then upgrade to lenny |
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| 23:32.08 | HS^ | .. i need to update entire system? |
| 23:35.44 | Vasistha | alright! wireless works on 2.6.22 B) this is sooo much easier than that frickin' realtek card |
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| 23:42.07 | Cusoon959 | Text in IceWeasel on bash.org looks like this: |
| 23:42.08 | Cusoon959 | http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5346/screenshotwc3.png |
| 23:42.11 | Cusoon959 | how can I fix? |
| 23:42.57 | \amethyst | Cusoon959: set a better monospace font in your preferences |
| 23:43.04 | cloakable | :P |
| 23:43.36 | Cusoon959 | Prefs of what program, \amethyst? |
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| 23:43.49 | EMPER0R | hi have HP COMPAQ PROLIANT 530 trying to install Debian Etch 4.0r1 and server load module cciss & cpqarray but no found any disk in the RAID 5 .. how can i install it? exist any issue of that to make something before? |
| 23:43.51 | \amethyst | Cusoon959: Iceweasel |
| 23:43.57 | Cusoon959 | ok |
| 23:44.46 | PerfDave | Cusoon959: Try installing some font packages? |
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| 23:44.55 | Cusoon959 | PerfDave: which ones...lol |
| 23:45.17 | PerfDave | Cusoon959: seach for packages with "font" in the name :0 |
| 23:45.41 | elmo40 | ttf-inconsolata - monospace font for pretty code listings and for the terminal |
| 23:46.07 | Cusoon959 | :) |
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| 23:52.16 | ^Timo^ | Evening |
| 23:52.57 | ^Timo^ | any of you guys recomment a windows/linux sharing app i am using samba at the moment cuz its the only one i know |
| 23:52.59 | ^Timo^ | ? |
| 23:53.28 | PerfDave | ^Timo^: Samba is the easiest way to make files on a GNU/Linux server accessible to Windows clients, and vice-versa. |
| 23:53.51 | ^Timo^ | ok. |
| 23:54.27 | ^Timo^ | are there other apps like samba ? |
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| 23:55.03 | PerfDave | ^Timo^: Like in what way? |
| 23:55.13 | bucky | nfs on windows? |
| 23:55.20 | the_lalelu | install SFU on windows and export some nfs shares under linux, with sfu you can connect to these nfs shares. |
| 23:56.08 | PerfDave | You can share files using NFS, CIFS, SFTP, DAV, blah blah |
| 23:56.29 | bucky | then there's file sharing apps that work with putty |
| 23:56.44 | PerfDave | But Samba's the easiest :0 |
| 23:56.47 | bucky | might cost money tho |
| 23:56.57 | ^Timo^ | hmm hmm sfu is a large package |
| 23:57.00 | PerfDave | bucky: "Work with putty"? |
| 23:57.02 | ^Timo^ | 217 mb |
| 23:57.15 | the_lalelu | hmmm, is there a "sshfs" for windows? |
| 23:57.19 | PerfDave | There's pscp, but that's just an scp / sftp client. |
| 23:57.31 | Cusoon959 | <3 scp |
| 23:57.32 | ^Timo^ | but why do you recommend SFU the_lalelu ? |
| 23:57.41 | bucky | yeah.. the windows client had a graphical file hierarchy |
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| 23:58.06 | bucky | i never used it, some windows hugger i know used it |
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| 23:58.22 | the_lalelu | because it makes windows a real posix machine. with /bin/sh and so on. *g* |
| 23:58.43 | PerfDave | \bin\sh ? |
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| 23:58.56 | karmatronic | hi there |
| 23:59.11 | karmatronic | is there a rapid way to get back default font ? |
| 23:59.13 | bytekode | ugh.. don't remind me... i have to learn windows driver development this week :/ |
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| 23:59.46 | douchebag | when i try "sudo mount -a" with "/dev/sdc1 /media/Seagate ext3 defaults 0 0" in /etc/fstab, i am told that "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing codepage or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so" so i checked dmesg, and im told that "ext3: No journal on filesystem on sdc1" ... why though? i formatted /dev/sdc1 to ext3 with gparted... what did i do wrong? |
