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| 00:00.18 | _Sam-- | telexicon: lingering issues from a few things. right now, in specific, i am having a problem getting the locale set properly. |
| 00:00.23 | peter__ | themill, there are some funny pictures inside the text |
| 00:00.28 | _Sam-- | or, getting locales instead properly. |
| 00:00.33 | telexicon | _Sam--, systemwide? |
| 00:00.35 | peter__ | themill, meaby something wrong with my webbrowser |
| 00:00.42 | _Sam-- | telexicon: yes |
| 00:00.53 | themill | peter__: probably either an encoding problem or a font problem. |
| 00:00.57 | telexicon | _Sam--, you just want it set for every user? |
| 00:01.06 | telexicon | _Sam--, login.. and all the other system accounts? |
| 00:01.21 | _Sam-- | the box was an older amd64 sarage install, that wouldnt boot properly cause of my own poor skills. so wols and dondecarlo helped me boot it with a rescue cd, and chroot, and aptitude upgrade it to etch, and it worked fine. |
| 00:01.25 | _Sam-- | but there are still some issues.... |
| 00:01.33 | wols | _Sam--: enc | grep LC |
| 00:01.37 | Vasistha | how do I scroll up in screen? |
| 00:01.49 | _Sam-- | fresco:/usr/src# env |grep LC |
| 00:01.49 | _Sam-- | LC_ALL=en_US |
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| 00:02.05 | themill | peter__: Both appear to be in UTF-8. So it's probably choice of fonts. (but check that your browser is rendering it using UTF-8) |
| 00:02.13 | telexicon | i dont have any LC set |
| 00:02.13 | peter__ | themill, uh, when I refresh screen, the problem is gone, but when I enter the site again, there are still same pictures in text |
| 00:02.22 | telexicon | er LC* |
| 00:02.33 | wols | _Sam--: can you log out and back again. or maybe log in in another VT |
| 00:02.35 | telexicon | _Sam--, all i have is LANG |
| 00:02.46 | _Sam-- | wols: tried that several times with no luck. |
| 00:02.49 | themill | peter__: are you using iceweasel/ff? |
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| 00:02.58 | peter__ | themill, iceweasel |
| 00:02.59 | wols | _Sam--: grep LC ~/.* |
| 00:03.02 | _Sam-- | telexicon: that was all i had too, i had to export the LC_ALL line before |
| 00:03.18 | wols | _Sam--: both in /root and whatever your /home/user is |
| 00:03.24 | peter__ | themill, I changed the codding for UTF-8 |
| 00:03.24 | _Sam-- | wols: nothing in root with LC |
| 00:03.28 | _Sam-- | will check my user dir now |
| 00:03.34 | telexicon | _Sam--, what do you need it for? |
| 00:03.42 | peter__ | themill, uh, now the whole page has the problem with fonts |
| 00:03.47 | themill | peter__: so with View -> Character Encoding -> UTF-8 it looks ok? but not otherwise? |
| 00:03.51 | _Sam-- | telexicon: to resolve errors that appear every time i use apt or aptitude |
| 00:04.13 | wols | _Sam--: those are not errors. just warnings |
| 00:04.16 | wols | annoying but no errors |
| 00:04.19 | _Sam-- | all over my screen: ocale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 00:04.30 | _Sam-- | (that and the other LC_* types) |
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| 00:04.56 | peter__ | themill, I will put screenshot on ftp |
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| 00:05.10 | _Sam-- | dpkg-reconfigure locales gives this: |
| 00:05.17 | _Sam-- | usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed |
| 00:05.21 | themill | !tell peter__ about paste |
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| 00:05.28 | _Sam-- | and aptitude cant install locales, and dpkg wont install it. |
| 00:05.31 | themill | peter__: you can use picpaste if you want |
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| 00:05.46 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: so aptitude reinstall locales; |
| 00:06.09 | _Sam-- | doesnt seem to do it. |
| 00:06.18 | wols | what is the errors? |
| 00:06.19 | peter__ | themill, www.winditup.ovh.org/zrzutekranu.png - please look |
| 00:06.29 | _Sam-- | i could tell if i didnt have 20 package of locales warnings. |
| 00:06.33 | _Sam-- | i have to pipe the out to something |
| 00:06.43 | _Sam-- | package = page |
| 00:06.43 | telexicon | 'swapper' is in charge of swapping out memory right? |
| 00:07.04 | wols | telexicon: kwapd usually is |
| 00:07.26 | telexicon | yea i was thinking it should be a kernel thing |
| 00:07.27 | _Sam-- | aptitude reinstall locales does nothing |
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| 00:07.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe, with that typo it sounds like the kde wap daemon :) |
| 00:07.37 | telexicon | my logs are flooded with 'page allocate failure' errors |
| 00:07.39 | _Sam-- | no errors, but aptitude is trying to install its other broken packages. |
| 00:07.47 | peter__ | themill, the "?" sings are in letters that are unique for my language (polish)... like ś,ć,ń,ł but, debian has localisation for polish |
| 00:07.54 | _Sam-- | and it makes no reference to locales anyway, when i tell it aptitude reinstall locales |
| 00:07.59 | _Sam-- | anyway = anywhere |
| 00:08.06 | themill | peter__: delightful :) The same sites look fine for me under iceweasel... but I've installed just about every font available in debian and then some. |
| 00:08.07 | _Sam-- | i piped the out to 2>&1 | less |
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| 00:08.12 | telexicon | but i still had swap available |
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| 00:08.35 | _Sam-- | like i said, id be glad to pay someone for some help. |
| 00:08.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | _Sam--: do you have the iceweasel locales also installed? |
| 00:08.47 | _Sam-- | ive been dealing with my own incompetence since 10.30 |
| 00:08.51 | deepfrze | _Sam--: that should be locale, should it not. not locales |
| 00:08.54 | peter__ | themill, are there others font package that I can install (in repo) ? |
| 00:09.08 | _Sam-- | CutMeOwnThroat: maybe..i dont use any iceweasel stuff |
| 00:09.14 | wols | deepfrze: no, locales |
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| 00:09.21 | _Sam-- | but maybe in the upgrade to etch it did something |
| 00:09.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | _Sam--: looks like iceweasel-l10n-fa-ir - Persian language package for Iceweasel or like mozilla-firefox-locale-gu-in (which is probably obsolete) |
| 00:09.38 | wols | CutMeOwnThroat: huh? |
| 00:09.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | not? |
| 00:09.46 | themill | peter__: there's msttcorefonts, there are the bitstream fonts and the dejavu fonts. |
| 00:09.55 | deepfrze | wols: when I type locale I get a list of my settings, when I type locales I get nothing? |
| 00:10.08 | wols | dondelelcaro: a binary != package |
| 00:10.13 | _Sam-- | when i type locale, i get a list of my settings, too. |
| 00:10.18 | _Sam-- | but it starts with 3 warning (errors) |
| 00:10.24 | _Sam-- | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 00:10.27 | protoloco | is Jmeter available in debian ? |
| 00:10.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 00:10.55 | protoloco | well in the apt manager |
| 00:10.56 | wols | _Sam--: export LC_TYPE=C |
| 00:11.00 | wols | for each one that warns |
| 00:11.09 | wols | set each to C |
| 00:11.15 | wols | then try to install locales again |
| 00:11.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're right... that was barking up the wrong tree :) |
| 00:11.39 | wols | dondelelcaro: sry. wrong tab complete |
| 00:12.16 | _Sam-- | wols: the errors DID go away, but it didnt install locales or anything like it. |
| 00:12.23 | _Sam-- | when i typed aptitude reinstall locales |
| 00:12.41 | _Sam-- | it tried to work on some other packages it was having problems with, but never did anything with locales, and never mentioned it. |
| 00:12.47 | wols | _Sam--: it gave an error |
| 00:12.56 | _Sam-- | it did not. |
| 00:13.10 | _Sam-- | fresco:/usr/src# aptitude reinstall locales 2>&1 |grep local |
| 00:13.10 | _Sam-- | locales is not currently installed, so it will not be reinstalled. |
| 00:13.16 | wols | is it doen now? |
| 00:13.19 | _Sam-- | that is the ONLY referce |
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| 00:13.22 | _Sam-- | reference |
| 00:13.23 | wols | dpkg -l locales |
| 00:13.23 | dpkg | No packages found matching locales |
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| 00:13.34 | wols | apt-cache policy locales |
| 00:13.37 | themill | dpkg: shut up |
| 00:13.37 | dpkg | No, I won't, and you can't make me. :P |
| 00:14.05 | _Sam-- | wols: http://pastebin.com/m687a2295 |
| 00:14.08 | _Sam-- | that is dpkg -l |
| 00:14.50 | wols | best your sources.list too |
| 00:15.03 | _Sam-- | this is apt-policy http://pastebin.com/m207ba02 |
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| 00:16.15 | _Sam-- | sorry -- pastebin for some reason wont take my source.list now |
| 00:16.50 | _Sam-- | apt-sources: http://www.pastebin.ca/812753 |
| 00:18.08 | deepfrze | wols: right sorry. |
| 00:18.32 | peter__ | themill, hm... when I refresh the whole site te fonts goes back to normal ;/ |
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| 00:18.42 | deepfrze | wols: I had this problem some time ago but can't remember the resolution. |
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| 00:19.29 | wols | _Sam--: aptitutude install locales |
| 00:19.31 | pablo | hi, how, can i do to close session but to keep all my apps running |
| 00:19.34 | themill | peter__: normal meaning broken or normal meaning "looks ok"? |
| 00:19.53 | _Sam-- | wols: it is giving me a proposed downgrade solution |
| 00:19.57 | _Sam-- | which i dont really like |
| 00:20.00 | _Sam-- | do you want me to paste it? |
| 00:20.01 | pablo | hi, how, can i do to close session but to keep all my apps running or lock my session |
| 00:20.02 | wols | _Sam--: pastebin |
| 00:20.04 | Vasistha | pablo: maybe you want to lock your screen? |
| 00:20.06 | peter__ | themill, normal in meaning "looks ok" |
| 00:20.27 | pablo | Vasistha: ok, it may be a solution, how can i do that on gnome? |
| 00:20.29 | _Sam-- | wols: http://www.pastebin.ca/812760 |
| 00:20.29 | pem3v78 | pablo: on text terminal or x ? |
| 00:20.45 | pablo | pem3v78: x, i am using gnome |
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| 00:21.13 | themill | well that's good ;) probably either a wrong encoding due to fiddling that we've been doing or installing some new fonts. Or even just changing the default font for gnome of for iceweasel. Fonts + encodings = trouble :( |
| 00:21.14 | wols | _Sam--: you were running lenny |
| 00:21.21 | _Sam-- | to me, it seems like the locales package it wants isnt available, at least in looking at the apt-policy |
| 00:21.27 | Vasistha | pablo: gnome-screensaver includes locking |
| 00:21.35 | wols | _Sam--: it never ever was a sarge box |
| 00:21.39 | _Sam-- | wols: at one point, like i mentioned, i think this thing pulled in some stuff from testing due to a bad apt source. |
| 00:21.44 | pablo | Vasistha: ok,i will install it |
| 00:21.51 | _Sam-- | it was a sarge box, its been up and running since 2005 :) |
| 00:21.57 | wols | _Sam--: among them libc6 as it almost always does |
| 00:22.00 | _Sam-- | i took out the line that indicated the sarge install cd |
| 00:22.07 | ross` | excuse me. i installed linux from a full install.. and i didn't set a server to download stuff.. how do i select a server so that i can apt-get install stuff |
| 00:22.18 | pem3v78 | pablo: why don't you simply use 'lock' in top menu ? |
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| 00:22.36 | fungo | hi, i have a debian install that's full of programs and dependencies i don't use anymore, how can i remove everything but still keep the base of the system? |
| 00:22.42 | _Sam-- | wols: i let it run its proposed solution before, but that didnt seem to fix it. |
| 00:22.46 | wols | _Sam--: downgrade is not really supported, otoh lenny becoming new stable is >1 year away |
| 00:22.50 | fungo | like a pkg_remove -a from freebsd, |
| 00:23.01 | ross` | excuse me. i installed linux from a full install cd.. and i didn't set a server to download stuff.. how do i select a server so that i can apt-get install stuff????? |
| 00:23.09 | wols | downgrading libc6 is.... vrey lucky when it works and doesn't kill the system |
| 00:23.10 | Vasistha | !tell ross` about sources.list |
| 00:23.21 | themill | fungo: if you were using aptitude then autoremove will help. Otherwise look at deborphan and debfoster. |
| 00:23.23 | pablo | pem3v78: i have never noticed it, i will bear that in mind |
| 00:23.24 | Vasistha | !tell ross` about repeat |
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| 00:23.36 | _Sam-- | wols: so you are telling me at this point, my choice is to go to lenny, or? |
| 00:23.37 | pem3v78 | ross`: we heard you, don't repeat |
| 00:23.55 | wols | _Sam--: what is the job of the system? you can get the proper locales (2.6-2) from snapshot.debian.net most likely |
| 00:23.59 | fungo | themill i don't want to remove dependencies i don't use anymore, i want to remove everything but keep the core of debian |
| 00:24.02 | pablo | pem3v78: i click it and nothing happend |
| 00:24.16 | _Sam-- | its a production internal server that handles mysql, email, our business processes (php) |
| 00:24.21 | fungo | themill i found a guide on debian-administration.org about what you said |
| 00:24.25 | ross` | k |
| 00:24.31 | ross` | zz... |
| 00:24.35 | _Sam-- | its an important server here, and one that has been missed dearly all day. |
| 00:24.47 | Vasistha | fungo: I don't think there's a simple command that just does that. There are utilities you can use that search for packages that are not "required" ... actually, aptitude is nice. just a sec. |
| 00:24.58 | wols | spanther: aptitude currently reports nothing broken or such? |
| 00:25.12 | pablo | pem3v78: i clicked on lock screen but nothing happens |
| 00:25.21 | fungo | i only use apt-get/remove :/ |
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| 00:25.40 | pem3v78 | dunno how gnome handles it |
| 00:25.41 | _Sam-- | wols: would you spend any time on it, for a fee? |
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| 00:25.57 | pem3v78 | maybe a screen saver is used for locking |
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| 00:26.33 | fungo | thanks for the help! |
| 00:26.39 | zignig | has anybody had serious PPP issues with the upgrade to 2.6.18-5-686 |
| 00:26.41 | zignig | ? |
| 00:27.03 | pablo | pem3v78: ok, so whats that button for? |
| 00:27.07 | zignig | I'm suddenly getting 500ms ping when 23 is normal. |
| 00:27.47 | wols | _Sam--: you alreay asked, not really but I'm sure there are cunsltants here, somewhere |
| 00:28.12 | wols | and downdgrading libc6 over ssh is very dicey |
| 00:28.23 | wols | cause it easily happens that you can't get in there anymore |
| 00:28.26 | _Sam-- | wols: fair enough. i trust you most, which is why i sought your help. |
| 00:29.15 | _Sam-- | what is your recommended solution? |
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| 00:29.35 | Vasistha | fungo: you should use aptitude; then you can do a flat package list view, and press 'l' to do a search. then search for the following: ~i!(~prequired|~pimportant) |
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| 00:30.21 | fungo | i'll study how aptitude works, must be worth a night |
| 00:30.42 | Vasistha | fungo: that will show you all the packages that are installed, and which are not either required or important. You can probably just remove all of them, though you'll have to manually mark them. There's a UI option to "advance to the next item after changing the state of a package" that will be useful |
| 00:30.57 | Vasistha | fungo: /usr/share/aptitude/README |
| 00:31.24 | eth01 | initramfs-tools klibc-utils libklibc ... new today on lenny? |
| 00:31.46 | Vasistha | fungo: alternately, if you'd like to see the list of required + important packages, you can take out the '!' ... and then the ~i is optional because they will all be installed ;) |
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| 00:31.55 | pem3v78 | pablo: the button enables screen saver, go to upper menu, prefferences, screen saver, select one, then retry to lock the screen |
| 00:32.11 | _Sam-- | eth01: does your offer still stand? |
| 00:32.24 | Devrethman | Anybody know what would cause ifconfig to throw wierd errors about SIOCSIFFLAGS |
| 00:32.27 | Devrethman | or something like that? |
| 00:33.19 | zignig | ignore me, ISP issues :) |
| 00:33.43 | Devrethman | I think it has something to do with an IRQ conflict, but there's no way to change them in the BIOS |
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| 00:34.37 | pablo | pem3v78: ok thx |
| 00:34.38 | Vasistha | Devrethman: sounds like it may be a driver issue. What kind of device are you using to connect? |
| 00:34.57 | pem3v78 | did it work ? |
| 00:34.58 | Devrethman | Intel e100 based network card |
| 00:35.14 | Devrethman | It's an old server I got from a friend yesterday |
| 00:35.18 | Devrethman | so it's got some wierd hardware |
| 00:35.24 | Devrethman | but the NIC seems normal |
| 00:35.40 | wols | _Sam--: trusting people on irc is generally a BAD idea :) |
| 00:35.43 | Nostahl | im installing debian on my laptop right now its a dell inspiron 1000 with 512 megs of ram |
| 00:35.53 | Devrethman | from what I've read, errors like that come form conflicts between SCSI disks (which it has one) and other stugg |
| 00:35.55 | Devrethman | *stuff |
| 00:35.58 | Nostahl | im to the point where it asks if i want to install a desktop environment |
| 00:36.02 | Nostahl | should i select yes or no |
| 00:36.08 | eth01 | Yes. |
| 00:36.19 | Devrethman | Nostahl: I'm assuming you want a DE, so probably yes |
| 00:36.20 | wols | _Sam--: do the following, add lenny to your sources.list, update, aptitide isntall libc6 and locales and libc6-dev |
| 00:36.25 | wols | then remove lenny again |
| 00:36.41 | wols | Nostahl: which installer? |
| 00:36.44 | Nostahl | devrethman, i was just wondering if i should install it now it will give me gnome |
| 00:36.50 | Vasistha | Nostahl: that will probably make it install gnome, if it's the standard installer |
| 00:36.51 | Nostahl | wols, etch |
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| 00:37.02 | wols | and desktop environment is gnome, kde or xfce. do you want any of those? you can install them later at any time too |
| 00:37.04 | Nostahl | vasistha, aye |
| 00:37.05 | wols | no need to do now |
| 00:37.28 | wols | Nostahl: installing them manually later gives you more control. up to you |
| 00:37.32 | _Sam-- | wols: doing now |
| 00:37.38 | Nostahl | ima select to install it later so i can learn more |
| 00:37.42 | wols | Nostahl: you can always rerun tasksel and get this screen again |
| 00:38.06 | karsten | Is there any way to get disk cache hit/miss ratios in Linux? |
| 00:38.14 | Devrethman | So yeah, is there some nifty way to change IRQ assignment with kernel arguments or somethign? |
| 00:38.26 | Devrethman | cause I'm pretty sure that's the problem |
| 00:38.49 | karsten | We're looking at Pg tuning, wondering whether or not increasing RAM (from 16 GB to 32/64) will help. |
| 00:39.01 | cockroach | euhm, possibly stupid question: it seems i have to downgrade xserver-xorg-core to 7.1, the packages seem to follow a different versioning scheme, though. is 7.1 the version in etch? |
| 00:39.21 | wols | !info xserver-xorg etch |
| 00:39.27 | Vasistha | kickass!! lazarus is in debian! |
| 00:39.29 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:7.1.0-19 (etch), Packaged size: 450 kB, Installed size: 1368 kB |
| 00:39.38 | wols | as you can see cockroach |
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| 00:40.04 | cockroach | ah, okay, that package actually has the "correct" version numbering |
| 00:40.05 | cockroach | thanks |
| 00:40.20 | wols | 1: is the era |
| 00:41.26 | cockroach | yes, i'm clear about that, the problem was just that dpkg spoke of xserver-xorg-core, that package has versions like 2:1.1.1-21etch1, 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12lenny1 etc, nothing with 7.1 (dpkg the bot, that is) |
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| 00:43.40 | linnewbye | hello, does someone know how can i disable the sound speaker ? the sound is ok, i can listen audio files but when i'm in a konsole and try to use auto-completion (TAB) i get annoing sound from the speaker , any ideeas how can i solve this ? |
| 00:43.43 | Devrethman | It also seems to be assigning my NIC IRQ 0, which is rather odd |
| 00:43.51 | themill | night all! |
| 00:44.19 | dondelelcaro | !shell beep |
| 00:44.19 | dpkg | [shell beep] man inputrc ; man readline (i.e. edit ~/.inputrc and set bell-style none) - also man setterm. |
| 00:44.22 | dondelelcaro | linnewbye: see above. |
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| 00:44.51 | dondelelcaro | linnewbye: you can also xset b off; |
| 00:44.54 | _Sam-- | wols: my apt can no longer connect to anything, i think it was just upgraded by aptitude last time....but this is what i get, if i leave the sources stable, or testing: |
| 00:44.59 | _Sam-- | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.09 | _Sam-- | (i CAN connect to that host fine with lynx or wget) |
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| 00:45.21 | themill | linnewbye: in konsole, you can Settings -> Bell -> visible Bell, and then Settings -> Save as Default |
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| 00:46.14 | themill | (one day, I'll add that to that factoid but for now, sleep...) |
| 00:47.01 | albix | hello |
| 00:47.10 | elmo40 | hello |
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| 00:47.26 | Tobias1989 | Hallo |
| 00:47.58 | Tobias1989 | Jemand da der mir evtl. bei ner kleinigkeit helfen könnte? |
| 00:48.08 | karsten | !de |
| 00:48.08 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de) |
| 00:48.22 | linnewbye | dondelelcaro : xset b off also goes in ~/.inputrc or /etc/inputrc ? |
| 00:48.31 | Tobias1989 | Thank you |
| 00:48.31 | wols | _Sam--: apt-get update same problem? |
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| 00:48.37 | _Sam-- | wols, yes |
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| 00:49.14 | wols | spanther: use ftp.us.debian.org ? |
| 00:49.25 | spanther | wols um...why? |
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| 00:49.42 | wols | sry. was for _Sam-- |
| 00:49.44 | Devrethman | ifconfig says "IRQ handler type mismatch for IRQ0" whenever I try to bring it up, anybody know what the deal it? |
| 00:49.50 | spanther | wols ok :) |
| 00:50.03 | _Sam-- | wols: thats not it. i tried a few hosts include that, and http |
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| 00:50.38 | linnewbye | dondelelcaro: thanks for the info. i think i need to reboot in order to get the ghanges applied |
| 00:50.42 | karsten | Devrethman: You can pass IRQ and ioport values with module load requests, though that's usually not necessary these days. |
| 00:51.00 | Vasistha | what is the point of even suggesting changes to the system when the changes to not incorporate the package I want to install? |
| 00:51.08 | mosty | i want to build my own copy of a particular linux-image package, is there a way to do that without compiling all of the variations? |
| 00:51.10 | Vasistha | s/to not/do not/ |
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| 00:51.50 | Vasistha | mosty: what kernal image do you need, and why do you want to roll your own? |
| 00:52.01 | PDani | is it possible to deny a range of ports to be used by other applications than mine? |
| 00:52.14 | wols | _Sam--: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/amd64/libc6/download download that and dpkg -i it? |
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| 00:52.37 | wols | mosty: yes. run make-kpkg on your kernel-source |
| 00:52.56 | mosty | Vasistha, i want an exact copy of the debian kernels that i run (2.6.18-5 for 686 and amd64), except with a single module removed |
| 00:53.13 | Vasistha | mosty: why don't you just blacklist that module? |
| 00:53.13 | wols | mosty: just blacklist the module |
| 00:53.41 | mosty | because i have another (custom) debian package that provides the module, and i want both installed at the same time |
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| 00:54.16 | Vasistha | mosty: you want ... "both" ... which? You want your custom module, and the stock module installed at the same time? |
| 00:54.36 | wols | Vasistha: no he wants the stock module rmeoved so he can have his custom one |
| 00:54.49 | mosty | Vasistha, i want my custom module, and the debian kernel without that module. so i figured i should compile my own kernel package without that module |
| 00:55.07 | Devrethman | karsten: How do you do that, it's a pretty old machine (made in 1999 I think) |
| 00:55.18 | Devrethman | so it might make sense that I would need to |
| 00:55.25 | Vasistha | mosty: well, if the debian kernel has it compiled as a module, then you can just remove it from the file system (or rename it to get it out of the way) |
| 00:56.01 | mosty | Vasistha, that is messy, i want to be able to apt-get install these packages from my custom apt source, that won't work if the packages conflict |
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| 00:56.47 | mosty | wols: i suppose i could run make-kpkg instead of dpkg-buildpackage, i'd just need to figure out how to get the debian patched source for the corresponding kernel version |
| 00:56.47 | _Sam-- | wols: any further ideas? |
| 00:57.21 | wols | mosty: apt-get source. debian uses always the exact same kernel source |
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| 00:57.39 | mosty | wols, debian applies patches though |
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| 00:57.49 | wols | _Sam--: I dunno right now about the apt problem :( |
| 00:57.52 | Vasistha | mosty: true, it is a bit messy. I guess I just have this idea in my head that that would be easier than rolling my own kernel. Of course, I haven't actually compiled a kernel since I upgraded from 300 MHz to 1.8 GHz so maybe compiling a kernel should not be quite as daunting as it once was :D |
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| 00:58.02 | wols | as for the libc/locales thing: download the 3 packages manually and install |
| 00:58.07 | mosty | wols: if i apt-get source and remove the debian subdir, would that be patched and ready to go for make-kpkg? |
| 00:58.12 | wols | via dpkg -i |
| 00:58.27 | wols | mosty: why remove it? |
| 00:59.20 | mosty | wols: perhaps it will interfere with make-kpg? |
| 00:59.43 | linnewbye | dondelelcaro: back, the speaker sound problem is solved partially, now when i do tab-completion it doesn't bell anymore , instead it bells for example when i read a man page and when i get to the bottom or to the top using pgup pgdown it does the annoying sound again, any ideeas ? |
| 00:59.52 | dondelelcaro | linnewbye: xset b off; |
| 01:00.00 | dondelelcaro | linnewbye: and you don't need to reboot, almost ever. |
| 01:01.16 | linnewbye | dondelelcaro : i've added "xset b off" in the /etc/inputrc, is it the right place to add it / |
| 01:01.19 | linnewbye | ? |
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| 01:03.27 | linnewbye | !shell bell |
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| 01:04.00 | linnewbye | dondelelcaro: what was the magic bot command again ? |
| 01:04.17 | dondelelcaro | linnewbye: just run xset b off; |
| 01:04.21 | Tramp | !tell linnewbye about bell |
| 01:05.47 | Nostahl | whats the package i need to get to get the x servers and such so i can run startx and log into xfce4 |
| 01:06.04 | Vasistha | Nostahl: xserver-xorg I think |
| 01:06.47 | Nostahl | what else could i be missing to let me go into xfce |
| 01:07.13 | asBook | xfonts-base? |
| 01:07.42 | Nostahl | k thats installing |
| 01:07.58 | Tramp | !xfce |
| 01:07.59 | dpkg | well, xfce is a pretty nifty Desktop Environment. Lightweight, fast, compact. http://www.xfce.org/ . Etch: aptitude install xfce4 ; add " xfce4-goodies" to that line for even more plugins. |
| 01:08.26 | Nostahl | ah looks like i was missin those fonts base |
| 01:08.29 | Nostahl | im in xfce now |
| 01:08.30 | asBook | :) |
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| 01:08.36 | Nostahl | smart thinkin :) |
| 01:08.53 | asBook | i always install debian clean and then install all the packages |
| 01:08.54 | asBook | thats why |
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| 01:10.10 | Nostahl | asbook, how do i fix my groups so i can not have a greyed out restart/shutdown button in xfce |
| 01:10.13 | monkeyBox | How do I find out what package installed a given file? |
| 01:10.58 | mosty | monacelli, packages.debian.org has a search |
| 01:10.59 | stiv2k | yo, has anyone here ever had the hinge crack on their notebooks? |
| 01:11.09 | dvs | Acer? |
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| 01:11.13 | asBook | Nostahl, i dontknow that, i can restart from my normal user |
| 01:11.32 | Nostahl | asbook whats the command to see what my user is aloud to do |
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| 01:11.45 | Tramp | !tell monkeyBox about search |
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| 01:11.52 | asBook | u can see in the config panel i think |
| 01:11.56 | asBook | (i dont use xfce) |
| 01:11.59 | nvz | whats the term for a network directly between two machines? |
| 01:12.10 | Nostahl | do you know the terminal way? |
| 01:12.11 | dvs | nvz: peer-to-peer? |
| 01:12.17 | nvz | thats what I was thinking |
| 01:12.21 | streuner | ad-hoc? |
| 01:12.24 | \amethyst | stiv2k: I've used a laptop with such a defect, but it was cracked when I got it |
| 01:12.24 | mosty | nvz, crossover? |
| 01:12.27 | dvs | nvz: or ad-hoc for wireless |
| 01:12.29 | asBook | nope Nostahl |
| 01:12.37 | stiv2k | \amethyst: mine just cracked today |
| 01:12.47 | \amethyst | stiv2k: Dell? |
| 01:12.54 | stiv2k | \amethyst: HP |
| 01:13.02 | nvz | I was thinking of a term that would only apply to 2 though, and peer-to-peer and adhoc seem to be used to describe other things, but I guess p2p works |
| 01:13.09 | \amethyst | stiv2k: ah, I've seen it a lot in 2000-era Dell laptops |
| 01:13.36 | stiv2k | \amethyst: i've had it for 13 months, and so it's 1 month over the warranty period |
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| 01:16.06 | Jordan_U | Is it OK for me to ask general questions about apt here to try to solve a problem I am having with Ubuntu? |
| 01:16.19 | dvs | !ubuntu |
| 01:16.19 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 01:16.20 | kgoetz | no. #ubuntu |
| 01:17.00 | _Sam-- | wols: i have good backup data, is there anything apt related i can pull off them that will allow me to get apt to connect to places again? |
| 01:17.33 | phasmophage | Where/how do I get kernel headers? |
| 01:17.34 | linnewbye | dondelelcaro: after i set x b off the speaker goes away but after reboot it's back, is there any file where i can configure this setting to apply at startup ? i tried /etc/environment but without succes |
| 01:17.40 | Jordan_U | :( figured, it really is an interesting question regarding how apt works though, and the questions would be in no way Ubuntu specific. |
| 01:17.46 | dondelelcaro | linnewbye: .xsession or similar |
| 01:17.51 | Jordan_U | Thanks anyway |
| 01:18.05 | _Sam-- | dondelelcaro: would you be willing to work on my shit for a fee? im in bad shape and run out of time, knowledege and skill. |
| 01:18.15 | kgoetz | phasmophage: available through apt |
| 01:18.23 | _Sam-- | i got an apt that wont get anything. |
| 01:18.36 | _Sam-- | and i got other problems probably that you would find. |
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| 01:19.32 | phasmophage | So, say my kernel is "2.6.18-5-686". Do I just do: "apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.18-5-686"? |
| 01:19.45 | kgoetz | dpkg: ping |
| 01:19.45 | dpkg | pong |
| 01:19.49 | kgoetz | woot. its alive again |
| 01:19.52 | Jordan_U | _Sam--, What error do you get from apt and can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 01:20.12 | _Sam-- | Jordan_U: been there, done that, its not a sources problem, its an apt problem with the one i have. |
| 01:20.15 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: if you can get it online, I can look at it. |
| 01:20.21 | _Sam-- | the error says it cant connect . |
| 01:20.29 | dvs | phasmophage: yup, as root |
| 01:20.35 | phasmophage | Because I can't seem to find that package. |
| 01:20.35 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: can you connect with that machine anywhere? |
| 01:20.40 | _Sam-- | but i can connect fine to the hosts using wget and lynx |
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| 01:20.52 | _Sam-- | donde: yes, the machine is up, running, on the net and accessible via ssh |
| 01:20.55 | Jordan_U | _Sam--, Are you using any type of proxy and can other apps grab the packages directly like wget? |
| 01:21.11 | _Sam-- | Jordan_U: no, its a direct connection to the net, no proxy |
| 01:21.16 | dvs | phasmophage: then try "apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)" |
| 01:21.29 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: Then you should change your sources.list to point to a different mirror, like linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian instead of ftp.debian.org/debian |
| 01:21.37 | Jordan_U | _Sam--, What error do you get exactly and with what command? |
| 01:21.40 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: once you've done that, try again. |
| 01:21.49 | catch23 | has anyone cloned a full hard drive using dd before? Is there anything special one has to do for disks that have grub installed? |
| 01:21.49 | _Sam-- | donde: the sources dont matter, no matter what i change them to, apt cant connect. |
| 01:21.55 | _Sam-- | ive tried about 5 |
| 01:22.08 | phasmophage | Still "Couldn't find package ..." |
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| 01:22.27 | _Sam-- | Jordan_U:this is one error spat out by apt-get update: |
| 01:22.27 | kgoetz | phasmophage: apt-cache show linux-kernel-headers |
| 01:22.27 | _Sam-- | Sources.gz Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (212.211.132.250). - connect (113 No route to host) [IP: 212.211.132.250 80] |
| 01:22.37 | _Sam-- | but using lynx, or wget, i can connect to that host fine. |
| 01:22.43 | dvs | phasmophage: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 01:22.59 | kgoetz | dvs: that looks better |
| 01:23.16 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: give us the output of env; apt-cache policy; route -n; and ifconfig; |
| 01:23.17 | phasmophage | dvs: That one seemed to work. |
| 01:23.22 | dvs | !beer me |
| 01:23.38 | _Sam-- | dondelelcaro: would it be any easier and more profitable for you to just ssh to the box? :) |
| 01:23.45 | kgoetz | does dpkg know any good beer? ;) |
| 01:24.00 | dondelelcaro | uh... bornem tripple is pretty good |
| 01:24.03 | _Sam-- | if you let me know the ip you would come from, i can add you through the firewall |
| 01:24.31 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: well, you can see what I charge on debian.org/consultants |
| 01:24.36 | kgoetz | never heard of it before |
| 01:24.46 | dondelelcaro | kgoetz: you need to drink more belgium beer |
| 01:24.58 | dondelelcaro | blech |
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| 01:25.02 | kgoetz | dondelelcaro: true, but i'll need a second job first ;) |
| 01:25.12 | dondelelcaro | they're not *that* expensive |
| 01:25.16 | _Sam-- | dondelelcaro: trying to look you up, but dont find anything under 'dondecarlo' :) |
| 01:25.29 | Jordan_U | _Sam--, Is this a production server / how "mission critical" is it? |
| 01:25.31 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: /whois dondelelcaro |
| 01:25.40 | _Sam-- | jordan: yes, production server, very miss. crit. |
| 01:25.47 | _Sam-- | runs our sql, email, and internal business processes |
| 01:25.48 | kgoetz | dondelelcaro: $15 is expensive imnsho |
| 01:25.59 | dondelelcaro | kgoetz: it's not $15 for a bottle |
| 01:26.28 | Jordan_U | _Sam--, Anything of note happen before it stopped working? |
| 01:26.34 | kgoetz | dondelelcaro: its $15 for a glass (cant remember if its a pint or a schona) here |
| 01:26.34 | kgoetz | *sp |
| 01:27.06 | _Sam-- | Jordan_U: yes many things. this morning, this box was an AMD64 old sarge box that wouldnt boot. it was recovered using a new etch rescue cd, chroot, and aptitude upgrade |
| 01:27.08 | dondelelcaro | kgoetz: whoa. that's a ripoff |
| 01:27.14 | dondelelcaro | kgoetz: it should be around $5 |
| 01:27.34 | dondelelcaro | kgoetz: it's about $4.75 for a bottle |
| 01:27.54 | kgoetz | dondelelcaro: not looked for bottles of it - no bottle shop near me has "fancy" beers :/ |
| 01:28.03 | Jordan_U | _Sam--, So apt could connect from the chroot? Did it ever connect when booted from the installed system? |
| 01:28.14 | _Sam-- | donde, i couldnt really find you listed there, cause i dont know your name...just let me know how much USD / hour |
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| 01:28.28 | _Sam-- | Jordan_U: yes, apt could connect fine even much after i booted the new upgraded system. |
| 01:28.35 | _Sam-- | then one final aptitude upgrade, and it couldnt. |
| 01:28.47 | kgoetz | hm. brb |
| 01:28.50 | _Sam-- | but i dont think your hourly rate is going to be much of an issue, really. |
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| 01:29.10 | _Sam-- | sorry, im blind. |
| 01:29.10 | dondelelcaro | _Sam--: $50/hr; I'm Don Armstrong. |
| 01:29.14 | _Sam-- | i didnt think your last name was in your whois. |
| 01:29.21 | _Sam-- | 50 is a bargain based on how much you know. |
| 01:29.23 | _Sam-- | im in. |
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| 01:30.03 | _Sam-- | feel free to message me your ip you will come from, if you can do it. id like to get on the road home soon...this is misery. |
| 01:30.15 | linnewbye | dondelelcaro: what does one has to do to apply/get int debian.org/consultans list ? :) |
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| 01:30.27 | dondelelcaro | linnewbye: the instructions are on that page |
| 01:31.29 | Nostahl | what package gets me flash? |
| 01:31.39 | dvs | !multimedia |
| 01:31.39 | dpkg | rumour has it, debian-multimedia is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>. |
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| 01:33.23 | linnewbye | dondelelcaro: yes, saw them, well thanks again for your time helping to get rid off the annoying speaker sound |
| 01:33.29 | dondelelcaro | linnewbye: np |
| 01:33.56 | phasmophage | How do I install gcc so that the version matches my kernel compiler? |
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| 01:46.58 | asg | phasmophage: cat /proc/version |
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| 01:47.55 | phasmophage | asg: Thanks. |
| 01:48.58 | pherthyl | does anyone know how to specify that I only want i386 packages from experimental? |
| 01:49.01 | phasmophage | How do I install gcc version 4.1.2? |
| 01:49.35 | pherthyl | I have experimental repos set up, but apparently some stuff (KDE4RC2) gets i386 packages built first... |
| 01:49.38 | dvs | !info gcc stable |
| 01:49.41 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.1.1-15 (etch), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
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| 01:50.10 | Nostahl | how do i speed up my touch pad mouse |
| 01:50.21 | Nostahl | takes for ever to move the mouse across the screen |
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| 01:50.29 | Nostahl | im running xfce |
| 01:50.30 | phasmophage | Ok, how do I install version 4.1.1? |
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| 01:51.10 | asg | Nostahl: if it doesn't have some widget to do that, try man xset |
| 01:51.43 | Nostahl | asg, there is a mouse window that comes with xfce but the speed up does nothing |
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| 01:51.53 | Nostahl | asg i've even restarted just to double check |
| 01:52.09 | Jordan_U | I'm sorry but I wish to ask this generic question about apt: how are the things displayed by apt-cache policy decided? What criterion are used other than information from the repository and from dpkg if any? |
| 01:52.09 | asg | Nostahl: then see if xset (man xset) helps |
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| 01:53.08 | Nostahl | asg, how do i read the manual for xset? |
| 01:53.54 | Cusoon959 | asg |
| 01:53.56 | Cusoon959 | man xset |
| 01:53.59 | asg | Nostahl: man xset |
| 01:54.29 | Nostahl | ty |
| 01:54.30 | Vasistha | boy, I sure with there was a 'diff' option to just compare file sizes and/or timestamps, rather than actually looking at the files :P |
| 01:55.52 | asg | Vasistha: you could use md5sum (at least for content equality) |
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| 01:56.29 | Vasistha | asg: I'm looking more for a way to compare what named files are in a directory ... and you know, there's probably just another util to do that. |
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| 01:57.05 | malachi_constant | I notice that when I run gpg --gen-key, it doesn't give me the option to make an keypair for encryption. Only for signing. Why is that? |
| 01:57.07 | Jordan_U | Vasistha, Possibly rsync ? |
| 01:57.16 | dalias | vasistha, save the output of ls -l then diff it... |
| 01:57.20 | malachi_constant | Er, excuse me. An _RSA_ keypair. |
| 01:57.46 | asg | Vasistha: diff -r |
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| 01:57.46 | Vasistha | Jordan_U: huh, that's an interesting idea. so's yours, dalias |
| 01:57.59 | asg | Vasistha: you could always ls both dirs to separate files, sort them and use comm(1) |
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| 01:58.25 | sav_ | how can I download kernel source? I tried apt-cache search kernel | grep -i source with no luck |
| 01:58.42 | Vasistha | heh, should have done that :) oh well, I guess I have enough processor power now that comparing 1 GB worth of .deb's is doable ... it's finished! |
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| 01:59.51 | asg | sav_: /msg dpkg kernel source |
| 02:00.28 | sav_ | thanks asg |
| 02:01.01 | phasmophage | I'm currently trying to install qc-usb which requires me to compile it. I've installed linux headers, xawtv, and gcc, but the install script warns me that "Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions." Before that it says "gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) Make version: GNU Make 3.81, Linker version: GNU ld version 2.17 Debian GNU/linux". If I try to skip ahead and compile, compilation fails. Any suggestion |
| 02:01.24 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 02:02.04 | sav_ | good nite truedd |
| 02:02.34 | TrueDD | thnks sav_ :) |
| 02:02.43 | TrueDD | gn |
| 02:03.03 | sav_ | yea right, I'd like to get 2.6.23 better than 2.6.18. is it possible? |
| 02:03.30 | dondelelcaro | sav_: it's in unstable, so yes. |
| 02:03.41 | dondelelcaro | sav_: but if 2.6.18 works, you may as well just use it |
| 02:04.08 | sav_ | thanks dondelelcaro |
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| 02:04.54 | cockroach | i need a 54mbps pcmcia/usb wlan adapter with rock-solid linux support (especially in ad-hoc) mode and am currently thinking about getting a prism54 device. does anyone have experience with those? or know an alternative for trouble-free ad-hoc networking? |
| 02:09.01 | vorpal | cockroach: intel develops open linux drivers for their wi-fi stuff |
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| 02:09.57 | cockroach | vorpal: i know, but i have one of those (ipw2200) and am not completely happy with it. under heavy load it keeps having firmware issues and needs to reinitialize itself |
| 02:10.11 | vorpal | bummer |
| 02:11.29 | Knorrie | nn |
| 02:11.35 | vorpal | cockroach: i have intel 4965AGN chipset with this new laptop. still working out issues with wireless. but it does work -- sometimes ;-)| |
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| 02:12.01 | vorpal | haven't found a |
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| 02:12.10 | vorpal | haven't found a 'N' network yet |
| 02:12.25 | cockroach | vorpal: heh, great :) |
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| 02:13.36 | cockroach | vorpal: since i need it to test a wireless protocol, i don't particularly like hard-/firmware issues interfering with my measurements :) |
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| 02:15.17 | vorpal | cockroach: yeah, that is a given. |
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| 02:15.48 | vorpal | cockroach: for that sort of thing, you probably want to test a variety of hardware |
| 02:16.02 | vorpal | cockroach: that way, an anomoly will be more obvious |
| 02:16.15 | vorpal | anomaly* |
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| 02:16.35 | cockroach | vorpal: well, for the time being i would be happy to actually find a *single* piece of hardware which works properly :) |
| 02:16.49 | vorpal | lol, i know the feeling, dude |
| 02:16.49 | cockroach | vorpal: but your point is, of course, true |
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| 02:17.36 | amphi | cockroach: what version? I used to see a lot of fw restarts, but that was many revisions ago |
| 02:17.48 | maddash | !test |
| 02:17.48 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 02:17.50 | amphi | cockroach: what driver version, I mean |
| 02:17.58 | vorpal | currently, wi-fi is a very sore spot on the hide of linux, i'm afraid |
| 02:18.02 | cockroach | amphi: the one in the current kernel |
| 02:18.02 | jhulst | I'm trying to use apache2 with digest authentication, but it doesn't seem to be loading the auth_digest module even though its in mods_enabled |
| 02:18.31 | DustyBin | i got X10 working :D i compiled heyu to control a CM12U controller and got it to turn lights on and off |
| 02:18.31 | vorpal | not that the developers are too blame, for the most part |
| 02:18.33 | DustyBin | debian now controls my home :D |
| 02:18.35 | amphi | cockroach: stable? |
| 02:18.46 | cockroach | amphi: 2.6.22/23, iirc |
| 02:18.51 | vorpal | DustyBin: sweet as! |
| 02:18.53 | cockroach | (vanilla) |
| 02:18.58 | cockroach | but let me check |
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| 02:19.30 | paul____ | ??? |
| 02:20.33 | DustyBin | my lord, i just turned the radio on and off in the other room :D |
| 02:20.40 | amphi | cockroach: here (testing), modinfo ipw2200 | grep '^version' says '1.2.0kmq' |
| 02:20.49 | phasmophage | Does anyone know where string.h, math.h, etc should be? |
| 02:21.26 | vorpal | DustyBin: you are going to be having fun, i can tell. ;-) even better if you live with anyone... many pranks awaiting |
| 02:21.52 | phasmophage | I'm really new to this, sorry. |
| 02:22.01 | cockroach | amphi: here it says 1.2.0km |
| 02:23.01 | amphi | cockroach: perhaps because I built a patched debian source? dunno where the q came from ;) |
| 02:23.01 | cockroach | but now that you mention it, it *MIGHT* actually have been an older kernel i used for testing stuff. have to check (now *that* would be rather embarassing) :) |
| 02:23.02 | vorpal | phasmophage: locate string.h. but usually it's in /usr/include |
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| 02:23.16 | maddash | I'm trying to associate with an open access point: "iwconfig eth1 essid [blah]". But this doesn't work, because querying the wireless status after 3 minutes with "iwconfig eth1" just gives, "un-associated, ..." `iwlist eth1 scan` clearly shows the open access point, |
| 02:23.36 | maddash | and I can connect with the same machine on windows (I have a dual-boot setup), so does anyone have any ideas? |
| 02:23.50 | amphi | cockroach: the ipw2200 list used to be full of fw restart complaints, but I haven't seen 'em in a good while |
| 02:23.50 | cockroach | amphi: hehe |
| 02:24.23 | phasmophage | vorpal: Thanks. But it can't seem to find it. Do you know how I would install it? |
| 02:24.29 | cockroach | amphi: of course none of my logs contain anyhing about firmware issues, so i can't check the kernel version atm :) |
| 02:24.42 | vorpal | phasmophage: do you have the dev stuff installed? |
| 02:25.04 | vorpal | phasmophage: aptitude install build-essentials ( it think ) |
| 02:25.05 | phasmophage | vorpal: How can I find out? (Probably not if it's not installed by default) |
| 02:25.22 | cockroach | amphi: but as soon as i find a reasonably-sized file on a well-connected host, i'll be able to try... |
| 02:25.56 | vorpal | build-essential |
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| 02:26.34 | amphi | cockroach: I've copied several hundred MB from one laptop to another here over the ipw2200 without such problems |
| 02:26.48 | Nyle | hi |
| 02:27.10 | Nyle | amphi: few gigs here too |
| 02:27.17 | cockroach | amphi: hrm, sounds good. |
| 02:27.26 | amphi | 'nabend, herr Nyle |
| 02:27.37 | Nyle | cockroach: you can make a file of anysize you want |
| 02:27.37 | amphi | Nyle: also ipw2200? |
| 02:27.45 | Nyle | cat /dev/random blah.txt |
| 02:27.49 | cockroach | amphi: that would of course be very nice, because in that case i wouldn't even need to get a new card :) |
| 02:28.09 | amphi | Nyle: we were talking about ipw2200 firmware restarts under load... |
| 02:28.12 | Nyle | well something like that anyway |
| 02:28.16 | Nyle | amphi: yes i have that one |
| 02:28.21 | Nyle | on an old hp |
| 02:28.32 | cockroach | Nyle: sure, but i need a well-connected host on the other side, and my laptop is currently deployed somewhere outside my reach, so i don't have a second host to generate that file on :) |
| 02:28.39 | Nyle | i upgraded the ram from 128 to 512 and it runs awesome |
| 02:28.43 | phasmophage | vorpal: once I've run "aptitude install build-essentials" should string.h be in /usr/include? Because nothing showed up. |
| 02:29.15 | \amethyst | phasmophage: build-essential (singular not plural) |
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| 02:29.31 | Nyle | in fact I was trying to find out how to patch ipw2200 for packet injection while in monitor mode |
| 02:29.33 | \amethyst | (rather, adjective, not plural noun) |
| 02:29.35 | amphi | cockroach: in earlier days, there was mention of a sysfs hwcrypto var that could be set to zero IIRC to stop or at least reduce the fw restarts, but I never tried it |
| 02:29.43 | Nyle | I got that done with bcm43xx |
| 02:29.47 | Nyle | but not with ipw yet |
| 02:30.02 | phasmophage | \amethyst: Ok, thanks. |
| 02:30.04 | cockroach | amphi: oh, never heard of that one |
| 02:30.29 | amphi | cockroach: if you search the ipw2200 list you'll come across many references, I think |
| 02:31.27 | cockroach | okay |
| 02:31.55 | phasmophage | That did the the trick. |
| 02:31.59 | Wyzard | Nyle: I've heard that it's a firmware limitation with the ipw2200, not a driver limitation |
| 02:32.00 | cockroach | well, i seem to be able to transfer at about 1.9m/s without any issues. doesn't look *that* bad |
| 02:32.04 | cockroach | :) |
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| 02:33.33 | cockroach | now for the big challenge: will i be able to reconfigure my laptop's networking without loking myself out? experience says no, but who knows... :) |
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| 02:34.05 | aguu | helloo |
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| 02:39.19 | pablo | hi, i click on the block screen button but nothing happens |
| 02:39.43 | Ronin | and what is the block screen button |
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| 02:39.58 | pablo | on gnome |
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| 02:40.28 | Ronin | what is it supposed to do? |
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| 02:41.07 | lymeca | I keep getting locale errors when I use apt-get on my Etch server |
| 02:41.10 | pablo | Ronin: mm block the desktop and ask for a password |
| 02:41.16 | lymeca | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 02:41.16 | lymeca | locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 02:41.38 | lymeca | And perl specific errors as well, such as: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 02:42.23 | \amethyst | lymeca: you probably need to install the 'locales' package |
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| 02:42.36 | codazoda | My laptop has issues suspending from gnome. I've figured out a way to correctly suspend it using s2ram. Does anyone here know if there is a way to tell gnome to execute the s2ram command when it needs to suspend (due to inactivity or whatever)? |
| 02:42.36 | mrrcp | whats a good proxy for debian |
| 02:42.37 | mrrcp | ? |
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| 02:42.46 | lymeca | # apt-get install locales |
| 02:42.47 | lymeca | locales is already the newest version. |
| 02:43.30 | \amethyst | try running locale-gen |
| 02:44.02 | \amethyst | and/or dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 02:44.03 | lymeca | APT now recommends installing the 'localepurge' package |
| 02:44.27 | mrrcp | no one? |
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| 02:44.36 | Nostahl | you have to have powerdev to be able to restart the computer correct? |
| 02:44.56 | Nostahl | set in groups i mean |
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| 02:45.35 | pablo | hi, i click on the block screen button but nothing happens on gnome |
| 02:46.29 | rdz | how can i use a png image as a desktop background? |
| 02:46.37 | mrrcp | any web proxy? |
| 02:47.02 | pobega | Is it unsafe to remove HAL? For some reason aptitude is recommending that I remove it. |
| 02:47.09 | phasmophage | My next problem is, how to I create /dev/video0 ? |
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| 02:48.51 | xerophyte | with snmp is there anyway i can find out .. the host is debian ? |
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| 02:51.46 | rcbarnes | Does anyone here use an encrypted /? I want to make sure that if my HDD array is pulled from my system or someone tries to LiveCD it my data would be protected. |
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| 02:53.06 | pobega | Anyone? Is it unsafe to remove HAL? |
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| 02:53.44 | rcbarnes | What kind of performance hit does a system take when running on an encrypted partition? |
| 02:54.47 | kgoetz | dpkg: encrypted root |
| 02:54.51 | kgoetz | hm |
| 02:55.05 | kgoetz | pobega: i'd advise against it |
| 02:55.19 | karsten | pobega: It's an "optional" package. So yes, it can be removed w/o making your system unusable. What requires/depends on it? |
| 02:55.31 | rcbarnes | kgoetz: dpkg doesn't seem to have anything to say about "encrypted root" |
| 02:56.08 | mrrcp | Anyone have any ideas on a http proxy? |
| 02:56.14 | mrrcp | !proxy |
| 02:56.15 | dpkg | i guess proxy is This is commonly a form of Internet security. You can use a proxy or proxy server to pass data between your internal network and the Internet. A machine on your network sends a request to the proxy. The proxy sends the request to a server on the Internet. Thus, it stands in for the computer on your network. The server on the Internet never knows that the request is coming from anywhere but the proxy. Thus 100 machines on your network ... |
| 02:56.18 | kgoetz | rcbarnes: so i see |
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| 02:56.41 | \amethyst | mrrcp: squid is popular |
| 02:56.45 | karsten | pobega: dpkg-awk Depends:hal -- Package | sed -e '/^$/d |
| 02:56.53 | karsten | ... will answer that last question for you, mostly. |
| 02:56.54 | kgoetz | rcbarnes: what sort of encryption were you thinking of? |
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| 02:56.58 | mrrcp | \amethyst squid ? |
| 02:57.07 | mrrcp | isnt that like a cache proxy |
| 02:57.15 | kgoetz | !info squid |
| 02:57.22 | dpkg | squid: (Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache)), section web, is optional. Version: 2.6.17-1 (sid), Packaged size: 621 kB, Installed size: 1580 kB |
| 02:57.39 | mrrcp | !info proxy |
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| 02:57.47 | \amethyst | what are you looking for, exactly? |
| 02:57.53 | \amethyst | a filtering proxy? |
| 02:57.57 | mrrcp | just a http and or ftp proxy |
| 02:58.25 | mrrcp | SSL i prefer |
| 02:58.33 | mrrcp | i doubt that will happen tho |
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| 02:59.13 | rcbarnes | kgoetz: well, what are the options? I want to use a passphrase at boot protecting my / |
| 02:59.44 | rcbarnes | and I want it strong enough to survive someone with serious resources (like a gov't or industry group) |
| 03:00.36 | rcbarnes | seeing as I want to be able to escape prosecution if, for example, I get hit with an accidential upload of a copyrighted song |
| 03:01.02 | \amethyst | crypto keys are subject to subpoena, you know :) |
| 03:02.10 | rcbarnes | \amethyst: True. But I have documented memory damage. |
| 03:02.16 | \amethyst | rcbarnes: perhaps look at cryptsetup |
| 03:02.23 | kgoetz | rcbarnes: i dont know about fs encryption - i dont use it. |
| 03:02.26 | rcbarnes | from an accident. I can very plausably forget it. |
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| 03:05.31 | \amethyst | rcbarnes: there's also truecrypt, but it's not in Debian |
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| 03:06.43 | rcbarnes | \amethyst: Hm. I am slightly limited in time, so something external might be a bad idea |
| 03:07.03 | rcbarnes | I'd say I realistically have about three days to devote to the whole task. |
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| 03:15.29 | distatica | An apt repository is a special kind of server right? Or is it just a web server wtih the directories setup a certain way? I want to serve some debs for myself and friends, but I prefer not to setup a home server, was hoping a normal shared host would be sufficient. |
| 03:15.33 | mrrcp | is there a way when i do apt-get remove squid that it del the folders it made also |
| 03:15.34 | mrrcp | ? |
| 03:15.51 | kgoetz | distatica: its an http server |
| 03:16.10 | kgoetz | distatica: with optional structure - look at teh apt-utils (iirc) package. apt-ftparchive. |
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| 03:16.31 | distatica | oh, ok, so there's hope for what I want after all then.. ? |
| 03:16.41 | distatica | I will check that out, apt is busy right now and will be for a bit, testing a script. |
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| 03:20.23 | xerophyte | si there |
| 03:20.34 | xerophyte | is there any premad xen iso for the debian etch ? |
| 03:20.50 | xerophyte | because i am not able to get the debootrap work on the centos host :( |
| 03:21.23 | cafuego | What does it fail on? |
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| 03:26.22 | mrrcp | is there another way to remove stuff with apt-get |
| 03:26.22 | mrrcp | ? |
| 03:26.40 | xerophyte | apt-get remove ? |
| 03:26.47 | mrrcp | es but it leave folders |
| 03:26.51 | mrrcp | and stuff |
| 03:26.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | mrrcp "dpkg --purge packetname" if you don't want to use apt |
| 03:27.01 | cafuego | xerophyte: What does debootstrap fail on? |
| 03:27.02 | xerophyte | apt-get --purge remove packagename |
| 03:27.10 | mrrcp | thanks |
| 03:27.25 | cafuego | echo packagename | sudo apt-get remove --purge -y |
| 03:27.33 | cafuego | (note, bad idea) |
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| 03:28.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | echo packetname1 packetnames | xargs -i sudo apt-get remove --purge -y |
| 03:28.27 | xerophyte | cafuego: i had old debootrap i guess let me get new version and test again |
| 03:28.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | this is the how-can-I-complicate-this-command contest, right? :) |
| 03:29.15 | cafuego | CutMeOwnThroat: Yup. We can probably rot13, uuencode and pipe it through gpg too |
| 03:29.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | cafuego: that would surely increase security |
| 03:29.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | cafuego: I suggest pgp, though |
| 03:29.50 | dalias | apt-get install vrms |
| 03:30.17 | cafuego | xerophyte: For what it's worth, rpmstrap on etch doesn't work either ;-) |
| 03:30.48 | kgoetz | dalias: wah? |
| 03:30.55 | xerophyte | cafuego: unfortunately i have centos host :( i need debian .. they already have few intsance in there .. and they don't wanna cover to debian :) |
| 03:31.07 | dalias | kgoetz, that was for cutmeownthroat suggesting pgp :) |
| 03:31.07 | cafuego | scumbags |
| 03:31.18 | kgoetz | dalias: ah :) |
| 03:32.26 | xerophyte | cafuego: how can i downlaod the deb :) |
| 03:32.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm not worried about non-free packages :) |
| 03:33.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyways, there's gpg - and I would still call that pgp-encrypted |
| 03:33.32 | cafuego | xerophyte: deb of debootstrap? DEBIAN_MIRROR/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3.2etch1_all.deb |
| 03:33.42 | HockeyInJune | I just installed Apache2, where are the executables and the conf files? |
| 03:33.43 | xerophyte | cafuego: thx |
| 03:34.00 | cafuego | HockeyInJune: /etc/apache2 and /usr/sbin prolly |
| 03:34.57 | kgoetz | cafuego: what a sneaky place ;) |
| 03:35.04 | HockeyInJune | is the executable going to be named httpd or apache2? |
| 03:35.18 | kgoetz | apache2 |
| 03:35.31 | HockeyInJune | great, thnx |
| 03:35.43 | cafuego | kgoetz: bastards is what they are! Bastards! |
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| 03:35.55 | cafuego | HockeyInJune: See the -L flag to dpkg. |
| 03:36.04 | kgoetz | :) |
| 03:36.54 | HockeyInJune | nice, thnx |
| 03:37.10 | kgoetz | and the rdepends to apt-get ;) |
| 03:39.31 | xerophyte | cafuego: looks like the new version is working :) lets see what happens |
| 03:39.43 | cafuego | noice |
| 03:40.51 | xerophyte | cafuego: you still there .. after i have installed it can i chroot and install the xen kernel for the image .. or do i have to copy kernel |
| 03:40.55 | HockeyInJune | you mean to apt-cache? |
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| 03:41.14 | heatman | Can anyone using guarddog tell me what needs to be modify to be able to connect unto ethernet based email server? seems that such services are being blocked by the firewall |
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| 03:42.54 | mrrcp | how can see my cpu temp and hd temp |
| 03:42.54 | mrrcp | ? |
| 03:43.12 | Wettoad | Hi i am hacing trouble getting kde to show up in Japanese when logging in from gdm. Can anyone point me to a tutorial or howto? |
| 03:43.55 | Azar | mrrcp: use lmsensors |
| 03:44.02 | cafuego | mrrcp: install lm-sensors and hddtemp; then run 'sensors-detect' as root |
| 03:44.31 | cafuego | xerophyte: Depending on your setup, you don't need a kernel in the chroot (just the modules) |
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| 03:44.57 | cafuego | xerophyte: My Xen domUs all run the same kernel, which starts from the dom0. |
| 03:45.56 | mrrcp | ok |
| 03:46.12 | mrrcp | then what do i type to run them |
| 03:46.13 | mrrcp | ? |
| 03:46.30 | cafuego | mrrcp: 'sensors' and 'hddtemp /dev/sda' |
| 03:46.44 | cafuego | The latter may need to run as root, the former shouldn't. |
| 03:47.13 | cafuego | I hope mine is lying :-/ |
| 03:47.42 | cafuego | But they're sadly all hovering around 56°C |
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| 03:48.25 | robboplus_ | woah.. /dev/sda: SAMSUNG HD300LJ: 37°C |
| 03:48.54 | mrrcp | mine didnt work |
| 03:49.00 | Azar | cafuego: that what happened to mine when the pci fan started making noise: sensors warned about overheating, I was like : oh c'mon... not true |
| 03:49.23 | robboplus_ | cafuego 56 is... hot. |
| 03:49.29 | cafuego | Azar: Oh, the cpu is fine... the hdds less so. I wonder if I disconnected the drive cage fan... |
| 03:49.32 | Azar | 56C ? |
| 03:49.38 | cafuego | yeh |
| 03:49.41 | cafuego | The cpu is 41 |
| 03:49.51 | robboplus_ | the tea you drink is usually ~60 |
| 03:49.52 | cafuego | The HDD in that cage are all 50+ |
| 03:49.57 | robboplus_ | hot one :) |
| 03:50.00 | Azar | nasty, check your pci fan... I had to open up, take the fan out dust it and grease a bit |
| 03:50.03 | Azar | now is ok |
| 03:50.24 | robboplus_ | if those drives are really 56 then you shorten their life big time |
| 03:50.30 | cafuego | well, it's a raid5 with a spare, so two can die before it'll all go horribly wrong ;-) |
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| 03:50.42 | robboplus_ | not sure if hddtemp can go wrong btw |
| 03:50.53 | robboplus_ | lol cafuego nice |
| 03:51.03 | cafuego | robboplus_: They're old 80G drives anyway... you suggesting I keep 'em hot and then upgrade them all to 750G? ;-) |
| 03:51.12 | robboplus_ | yesyes |
| 03:51.19 | robboplus_ | that's what i was saying basically lol |
| 03:51.26 | cafuego | robboplus_: yes, th 160G drive in my wife's machines report an incorrect temperature. |
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| 03:51.36 | Azar | I'd give my right hand to find a 80G drive again.. |
| 03:51.58 | cafuego | robboplus_: /dev/sda: WDC WD1600JS-00MHB0: 70°C |
| 03:52.04 | robboplus_ | wish i was this smart and upgraded my 40 gigers once before... |
| 03:52.05 | Azar | cafuego: maybe the lm-sensors were not configured |
| 03:52.07 | cafuego | Those are known buggy though. |
| 03:52.22 | robboplus_ | cafuego yay |
| 03:52.41 | cafuego | The drive bios reports more than 20C too high. |
| 03:52.51 | cafuego | So they're more likely 45-ish |
| 03:53.00 | robboplus_ | hm |
| 03:53.38 | Azar | hmmm my pc is heavenly silent now... I wonder that because I fixed the fan or because the fan just died |
| 03:53.50 | cafuego | heh |
| 03:54.15 | cafuego | Mine is silent too. Nice silent PSU and a MASSIVE copper heat thing on the cpu. |
| 03:54.19 | robboplus_ | Azar rofl |
| 03:54.23 | cafuego | I need to get another one of them for the myth box too. |
| 03:54.39 | cafuego | Coz that's going to get hot this summer. |
| 03:54.40 | robboplus_ | he he |
| 03:54.51 | robboplus_ | how about the porn box? |
| 03:54.58 | cafuego | the ipod? nah |
| 03:54.58 | robboplus_ | that is going to go tru the roof this summer lol |
| 03:55.10 | Azar | not hotter than here: every summer in this room is around 95F |
| 03:55.20 | xerophyte | cafuego: when i try to boot i get this error raise RuntimeError, "we couldn't find grub config file in the image provided." .. what does that means i chroot and intsalled grub on the image .. but still complain |
| 03:55.22 | Azar | so that makes the PC running at 98F |
| 03:55.26 | robboplus_ | damn not nice Azar |
| 03:55.28 | cafuego | Azar: I think you'll find you're mistaken. |
| 03:55.47 | Azar | mistaken? |
| 03:55.50 | robboplus_ | that's where watching pron gets serious lol |
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| 03:56.09 | cafuego | Azar: That's a mere 35°C |
| 03:56.22 | Azar | cafuego: yes... about that hot |
| 03:56.33 | cafuego | Azar: We manage a LOT more here. |
| 03:56.41 | Azar | we are at 40C when we reach 110F |
| 03:57.01 | cafuego | We hit 113F a few times each january/february |
| 03:57.03 | Azar | cafuego: tierra de fuego? patagonia? |
| 03:57.09 | cafuego | Australia |
| 03:57.16 | Azar | ouch, indeed |
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| 03:57.31 | cafuego | Azar: ... and that's 45C in the shade |
| 03:57.32 | robboplus_ | oh i would love to live in .au |
| 03:58.01 | cafuego | you say that now... |
| 03:58.33 | robboplus_ | and would you move elsewhere? |
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| 03:59.24 | cafuego | robboplus_: I already did ,heh> |
| 03:59.34 | robboplus_ | lol |
| 03:59.44 | robboplus_ | damn! |
| 03:59.46 | heatman | Can anyone using guarddog tell me what needs to be modify to be able to connect unto ethernet based email server? seems that such services are being blocked by the firewall... does anyone know what needs to be activated so that i can gain access to those services? |
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| 04:00.00 | robboplus_ | cafuego so you managed to leave the damn EU |
| 04:00.05 | red_ | hey, where can I get a netinst 386 version of sarge? |
| 04:00.16 | red_ | still using it and need to set up a dev instance |
| 04:00.18 | robboplus_ | cafuego just tell me that you regret that and i won't believe you :) |
| 04:00.29 | red_ | etch is better and cooler, but that's not the point at the minute |
| 04:00.30 | asBook | why are the debian sources that ld? |
| 04:00.31 | asBook | old* |
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| 04:00.42 | asBook | i get gnome 2.18 and normal in unstable is 2.20 |
| 04:00.44 | red_ | I can't seem to find one on debian.org |
| 04:01.01 | cafuego | red_: cdimage.debian.org seems to not have 'em anymore |
| 04:01.03 | cafuego | 'old on. |
| 04:01.06 | codeman_ | can someone help me with this linux warning |
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| 04:01.48 | red_ | cafuego: yeah, I've fished around a lot online and no luck. Must be somewhere??? |
| 04:01.58 | cafuego | I might have one laying arounmd |
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| 04:03.00 | cafuego | Grr, nope. |
| 04:03.00 | red_ | I thought i had one lying about as well ... but no such luck |
| 04:03.04 | codeman_ | or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automak...tending-aclocal |
| 04:03.04 | codeman_ | warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBMCRYPT |
| 04:03.04 | codeman_ | run info '(automake)Extending aclocal' |
| 04:03.04 | codeman_ | or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automak...tending-aclocal |
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| 04:04.29 | Azar | red_: try the link included here but not sure if it will work: old article: http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/perfect_setup_debian_sarge/ |
| 04:05.01 | red_ | no joy |
| 04:05.06 | red_ | Azar: dead link |
| 04:05.19 | Azar | must be in the "archives" site of debian |
| 04:05.33 | cafuego | how annoying |
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| 04:07.57 | cafuego | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r6a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r6a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 04:08.00 | red_ | looks promising here ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge |
| 04:08.15 | red_ | but there is too much to choose from ... I just want the bootable ISO image ... |
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| 04:08.45 | bucky | how come sarge isn't in the repos.. was it that bad? |
| 04:08.46 | red_ | cafuego: thanks |
| 04:08.53 | red_ | downloading now |
| 04:09.00 | cafuego | bucky: oooold now. |
| 04:09.11 | bucky | http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 04:09.15 | red_ | yeah, it's old but stable and has server me well. |
| 04:09.38 | codeman_ | http://pastebin.ca/812980 can someone please go to that link and tell me what I could do to fix this warning thanks |
| 04:09.39 | red_ | we all know how long it can take for a production machine to be updated |
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| 04:09.44 | bucky | everything there *except* sarge :( |
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| 04:10.58 | Azar | red_: if you can't find it consider ordering the CDs.... |
| 04:11.02 | Azar | they are still around |
| 04:12.30 | red_ | Azar: perfectly prepared to pay ... just not to wait |
| 04:12.35 | red_ | looks like it's all good |
| 04:12.38 | asBook | im looking for anything that can optimalisate my new system, why cant debian |
| 04:12.52 | asBook | think i need to use bsd or something |
| 04:12.54 | bucky | codeman_, what are you building and do you have libmcrypt-dev installed |
| 04:13.17 | codeman_ | working on a game server |
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| 04:13.54 | cellofellow | hello |
| 04:14.38 | cellofellow | quick question: will an i686 app run on an amd64 chip (in 32bit mode)? |
| 04:14.49 | asBook | yes |
| 04:15.10 | cellofellow | ok, thanks. |
| 04:15.18 | codeman_ | just checked bucky no I dont doing it now only had mcrypt installed |
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| 04:15.55 | \amethyst | cellofellow: Yes, you'll need 32-bit libraries, and either a 32-bit or 64-bit kernel |
| 04:16.50 | bucky | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.58 | Azar | it's a shame sarge's install has been pulled |
| 04:17.14 | bucky | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.18 | asBook | on what kind of system are the debian package created? |
| 04:17.23 | asBook | i386? |
| 04:17.32 | Azar | red_: I only managed to get Debian Woody... and if something goes bad I have to make the trip again: woody > sarge upgrade |
| 04:17.34 | codeman_ | installed it bucky and still getting the error |
| 04:17.39 | bucky | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.47 | codeman_ | im running autoreconf --install |
| 04:17.47 | bucky | libmcrypt-dev? |
| 04:17.56 | codeman_ | libmcrypt-dev |
| 04:18.38 | codeman_ | what I dont understand my friend said it doesn't give him a warning |
| 04:18.38 | bucky | codeman_, you haven't really answer any of my questions |
| 04:18.56 | codeman_ | I said libmcrypt-dev is installed |
| 04:19.07 | bucky | codeman_, i know what you saide |
| 04:20.08 | bucky | what was that gentoo factoid about recompiling and ending up slower |
| 04:22.31 | simonrvn | bucky: gentoosmite |
| 04:23.12 | simonrvn | bucky: e.g. |
| 04:23.19 | simonrvn | !gentoosmite me |
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| 04:23.27 | asBook | recompiling and slower? |
| 04:23.28 | ktne | hello |
| 04:23.38 | bucky | yah.. asBook ^^ |
| 04:23.42 | asBook | i thought recompiling system was faster? |
| 04:23.50 | ktne | i'm running debian stable, i need to update my glib to a newer version (for example testing), how do i do it? |
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| 04:23.59 | simonrvn | asBook: *bzt* |
| 04:24.05 | ktne | the stable version has a bug |
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| 04:24.27 | simonrvn | you can't pick and choose |
| 04:24.33 | bucky | i heard gentoo was contributing to global warming because of all the extra electricity it takes |
| 04:24.36 | asBook | simonrvn, im looking now few hours for another os then debian for more optimalisation.. but if recompiling is slower? |
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| 04:24.55 | simonrvn | furrywolf: hey dude |
| 04:25.07 | asBook | i wont want older packages / slower on a fast system |
| 04:25.14 | simonrvn | so run lenny |
| 04:25.15 | ktne | simonrvn: are you talking to me when you said "you can't pick and choose"? |
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| 04:25.29 | simonrvn | dpkg: tell asBook about etch->lenny |
| 04:25.35 | furrywolf | simonrvn: heyas |
| 04:25.37 | asBook | simonrvn, im using sid |
| 04:25.42 | simonrvn | ktne: yes |
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| 04:25.57 | junior | ajuda em portugues qual é a sala? |
| 04:26.03 | ktne | simonrvn: isn't there any way i can upgrade my glib version? |
| 04:26.07 | simonrvn | asBook: then run something else and don't ask that here |
| 04:26.12 | ktne | this is a serious bug |
| 04:26.16 | simonrvn | ktne: it's *stable* |
| 04:26.23 | simonrvn | so file a bug report |
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| 04:26.37 | ktne | there is a bug report and the bug has been fixed in newer versions |
| 04:26.39 | dryrot | where do people who enjoy configuring LVS hang aroud ? |
| 04:26.59 | squisher | does anyone know why I get '/bin/sh: line 0: [: -lt: unary operator expected' when I try to compile alsa-drivers snapshot after copying debian/ over from alsa-drivers in sid? |
| 04:27.29 | junior | onde eu consigo ajuda em portugues? |
| 04:27.33 | Rusty1 | junior ##debian-br |
| 04:27.42 | junior | Rusty1, thnkyu |
| 04:27.45 | simonrvn | ktne: if it's not an RC or security issue then you're SOL unless you can convince the maintainer and ftp-master otherwise |
| 04:27.52 | ktne | is it IMPOSSIBLE to update a package in debian???? |
| 04:28.10 | simonrvn | no. backport it then. |
| 04:28.19 | ktne | what that meas? |
| 04:28.21 | ktne | means |
| 04:28.22 | kgoetz | squisher: non posix scripting? |
| 04:28.29 | simonrvn | or use testing if it's not a server |
| 04:28.33 | squisher | kgoetz, well, it's debian/rules :-) |
| 04:28.37 | ktne | how do i use that? |
| 04:28.46 | simonrvn | !tell ktne about backports |
| 04:28.46 | squisher | kgoetz, I didn't write it, it's from alsa-source |
| 04:28.47 | ktne | i just want to update one package |
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| 04:29.15 | kgoetz | squisher: i didnt write it either :) |
| 04:29.35 | squisher | kgoetz, hehe, fair enough |
| 04:29.41 | simonrvn | yes, read what the bot told you |
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| 04:29.49 | simonrvn | ... |
| 04:30.00 | kgoetz | :/ |
| 04:30.01 | simonrvn | "wah!" |
| 04:30.24 | squisher | kgoetz, do you know an easy way to debug debian/rules? Usually I'd 'sh -x', but unfortunately it's using make and I haven't found anything equivalent |
| 04:30.56 | kgoetz | squisher: no idea. |
| 04:31.09 | simonrvn | man or info make ? |
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| 04:31.51 | CrlMan | hello! Good night for everyone! |
| 04:31.57 | squisher | simonrvn, last time I tried I only got it to give me _way_ too much output |
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| 04:32.09 | ktne | there is no backport for glib |
| 04:32.17 | squisher | I just want to see what shell commands are executed, not how make resolves rules... |
| 04:32.24 | simonrvn | ktne: so make one for yourself |
| 04:32.35 | CrlMan | where can i ask or read about debian permissions to read /dev/kmem? |
| 04:32.39 | cafuego | thata PITA |
| 04:32.41 | kgoetz | hth do you backport just glib? o_0 isnt it one of those 'unchangable' things? |
| 04:32.45 | ktne | simonrvn: i have no idea how to do that |
| 04:32.47 | simonrvn | mm, haven't seen such a thing for make |
| 04:32.51 | ktne | also |
| 04:32.55 | simonrvn | ask cafuego ^^^ |
| 04:32.59 | Azar | Merryam-Webster's 2007 word of the year: w00t |
| 04:33.02 | Azar | hahahaha |
| 04:33.02 | ktne | can't you people be a little bit more helpful for beginners? |
| 04:33.05 | squisher | simonrvn, thanks, will do |
| 04:33.28 | cafuego | ktne: Short of actually doing the backport for you, what do you mean? |
| 04:33.31 | squisher | cafuego, do you happen to know how I can make tell me what commands it executes? |
| 04:33.35 | kgoetz | ktne: you've got lots of help. you may not like it, but thats really your problem |
| 04:33.49 | ktne | cafuego: but i asked how can i update glib |
| 04:33.53 | ktne | nobody can tell me |
| 04:33.58 | simonrvn | he wants someone to do it for him.... you could probably request one at backports.org, if they do that sort of thing... |
| 04:33.58 | ktne | is that impossible? |
| 04:34.04 | ktne | no |
| 04:34.05 | cafuego | squisher: Edit the makefile and remove the @ from the start of lines that execute commands. |
| 04:34.08 | simonrvn | ktne: bullshit. i told you |
| 04:34.09 | Azar | ktne: all you need to do is learn from dpkg's recommendations and links |
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| 04:34.16 | ktne | i just asked how can i install a new glib that works on debian stable |
| 04:34.24 | cafuego | ktne: You do it by backporting glib. |
| 04:34.26 | ktne | this has nothing to do with packages and such |
| 04:34.27 | Azar | !backports |
| 04:34.27 | dpkg | i heard backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, or <backports.org> |
| 04:34.32 | simonrvn | and i answered. live with it |
| 04:34.36 | squisher | cafuego, hmm, duh! I just hope it's not too many of 'em :-) Thanks! |
| 04:34.37 | ktne | cafuego: there is no glib backport |
| 04:34.39 | Azar | ktne: can you read that? |
| 04:34.45 | ktne | what to read? |
| 04:34.45 | cafuego | ktne: Which is exactly everything to do with packages. |
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| 04:34.56 | ktne | but i don't know how to do it :( |
| 04:34.57 | cafuego | ktne: You make your *own* backport. |
| 04:34.58 | simonrvn | .:23:28:46:. < simonrvn> !tell ktne about backports |
| 04:35.18 | ktne | isn't there a way i can just copy a binary library from somewhere? |
| 04:35.20 | cafuego | Making one isn't hard normally, but glib depends on a bunch of stuff, which will make it not fun. |
| 04:35.25 | simonrvn | *plonk*. no |
| 04:35.32 | cafuego | ktne: Not a way that will actually work, no. |
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| 04:36.01 | ktne | someone has to fix glib then because this is a very serious bug, flash doesn't work in some configurations and reports for the bug are everywhere |
| 04:36.04 | simonrvn | ktne: either you live with the problem, or you get off your ass and do something about it. |
| 04:36.05 | Azar | ktne: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port < can you read that? |
| 04:36.22 | simonrvn | ... |
| 04:36.33 | bucky | lenny has version 2.7-3 |
| 04:36.41 | Azar | flash is a bug |
| 04:36.50 | ktne | flash is a bug? |
| 04:36.55 | ktne | you people are so mean |
| 04:36.56 | Azar | why people would actually WANT a buggy applications |
| 04:37.00 | ktne | bye bye linux |
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| 04:37.04 | cafuego | ktne: Well, flash isn't officially in Debian, so I don't think |
| 04:37.06 | GhostlyDeath | Azar: For debugging! |
| 04:37.07 | cafuego | Fine |
| 04:37.21 | Azar | is a drag on the system |
| 04:37.31 | GhostlyDeath | lenny is testing |
| 04:37.32 | bucky | that's not a bug.. that's a feature |
| 04:37.35 | GhostlyDeath | testing is for debugging! |
| 04:37.39 | cafuego | my keyboard makes squeaky noises on some keys |
| 04:37.45 | Azar | ah bucky you too? |
| 04:37.47 | GhostlyDeath | cafuego: Time for some WD40 |
| 04:37.57 | bucky | et tu butus? |
| 04:38.02 | Azar | brutus |
| 04:38.09 | GhostlyDeath | * |
| 04:38.09 | cafuego | GhostlyDeath: Possibly just a disassemble and wash. |
| 04:38.18 | bucky | my r key :( |
| 04:38.24 | cafuego | wash it! |
| 04:38.28 | GhostlyDeath | rinse it! |
| 04:38.35 | bucky | hahaha |
| 04:38.36 | squisher | cafuego, so what do you suggest if all the Makefile does is include some debian ruleset/common files? |
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| 04:38.54 | GhostlyDeath | bucky: you were supposed to say "dry it!" :( |
| 04:39.05 | bucky | WD-40 it |
| 04:39.16 | cafuego | squisher: Oh damn, is it a cdbs one? |
| 04:39.37 | Azar | WD-40 is only for squeaky doors |
| 04:39.47 | squisher | cafuego, cdbs? I'm just trying to get a .deb from an alsa-driver snapshot |
| 04:39.52 | kgoetz | wd40 is for everything |
| 04:39.53 | GhostlyDeath | he got squeaky keys |
| 04:40.03 | simonrvn | wd-40 is not lubricant |
| 04:40.04 | squisher | common debian build system... |
| 04:40.07 | squisher | yeah, it seems to be |
| 04:40.13 | GhostlyDeath | wd-40 cleans good |
| 04:40.13 | Azar | I would not mess with it on my pc's hardware |
| 04:40.16 | GhostlyDeath | removes sticky |
| 04:40.19 | cafuego | squisher: See if you can add '-d' to the make command in debian/rules |
| 04:40.22 | GhostlyDeath | and yuck |
| 04:40.54 | simonrvn | the hash bang, it already has /usr/bin/make -f just add -d |
| 04:41.15 | TheFearow | how secure is debian? Ive just set up a debian server and im wanting to release it onto the internet. Do I need much extra security stuff or will it do it by itself (I have a router which closes most ports, but I have SSH/FTP/HTTP/VNC/SMTP/IMAP/etc open)? The password are secure etc. |
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| 04:41.49 | squisher | cafuego, I can't add that to the sha-bang, but I can just run make from hand... now just having to sort through all the output is another story! |
| 04:41.50 | cafuego | TheFearow: FTP is not secure, VNC should be tunneled over ssh. |
| 04:42.11 | cafuego | squisher: redirect it to a file, then grep... prolly a bit easier. |
| 04:42.20 | kgoetz | cafuego: script! |
| 04:42.23 | bucky | i like running ssh on a non standard port with no root logins |
| 04:42.47 | kgoetz | :( |
| 04:42.50 | squisher | bucky, don't you get tired of always having to adjust the port number? |
| 04:43.15 | simonrvn | eh? |
| 04:43.24 | cafuego | bucky: key auth and ipt_recent match support for auto-firewalling :-) |
| 04:43.26 | bucky | no.. but i get tired of getting hammered on 22 |
| 04:43.40 | GhostlyDeath | TheFearow: Security depends on it's user |
| 04:44.00 | simonrvn | cafuego: i do the ipt_recent stuff here. works wonders |
| 04:44.05 | squisher | bucky, hehe, true too |
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| 04:44.32 | cafuego | simonrvn: Yup. Odd how all those dictionary attempts only ever log 3 instances from a single host ;-) |
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| 04:44.50 | bucky | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 04:44.54 | TheFearow | cafuego: Im using FTP through SSH, GhostlyDeath: They are all secure passwords etc, and only a few trusted users |
| 04:46.15 | cafuego | squisher: I wonder if MAKFLAGS='-n' would work |
| 04:46.15 | GhostlyDeath | TheFearow: only a few trusted users? |
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| 04:46.19 | cafuego | MAKEFLAGS even |
| 04:46.49 | squisher | cafuego, let me try, because the -d stops at the include, unfortunately. So now I know the error is in targets.mk, but still not where in there |
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| 04:46.59 | krammer84 | hola |
| 04:47.06 | krammer84 | como hago para montar un disco duro nuevo?? |
| 04:48.31 | squisher | cafuego, hmm, now I get a completely different error |
| 04:48.39 | GhostlyDeath | !es |
| 04:48.39 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 04:48.51 | GhostlyDeath | I think.. |
| 04:49.47 | squisher | cafuego, no that breaks the script |
| 04:51.48 | squisher | cafuego, hmm, if I use MAKEFLAGS='-d' , it also breaks the script. In a related, but different way. Man, I'm starting to think that make gets way too abused these days... |
| 04:52.59 | Azar | make_myday |
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| 04:53.34 | squisher | yeah, mine too please |
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| 04:54.06 | simonrvn | cafuego: odd innit ;) |
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| 04:54.21 | simonrvn | and now for some comedy relief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ocg7A5z0uU&feature=related |
| 04:55.14 | simonrvn | make myday\nmake: *** No rule to make target `myday'. Stop. |
| 04:55.36 | Azar | meh needs flash player |
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| 04:56.10 | squisher | simonrvn, man, the quality of that was horrible! |
| 04:56.15 | ivan | is there any way I can watch http://packages.debian.org/experimental/postgresql-8.3 for changes? RSS? |
| 04:56.28 | squisher | simonrvn, I mean, a/v quality.. it was funny :) |
| 04:56.54 | simonrvn | Azar: summary: it's a possum, that's toddling along a road on the reclamation site, and being followed by a truck, and the driver is asking the possum to leave the site, with a woman giggling away in the background. it's funny as hell :) |
| 04:57.16 | Azar | hehe |
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| 04:58.09 | simonrvn | (i think the woman is filming it, and sounds like a friend of mine, heh) |
| 04:58.37 | cmatheson | i'm having this crazy problem w/ dhcpd all of a sudden--might not be a dhcpd issue but hopefully someone here has experienced this sort of thing. i'm getting lots of DHCPDISCOVER requests and i send out a DHCPOFFER, but apparently they're not getting the offer because they just keep requesting over and over--anyone ever heard of this sort of thing? |
| 04:58.39 | smacnay | anyone here have a preference for email clients? I am looking at evolution and icedove. |
| 04:58.53 | Azar | ivan: changelog maybe? |
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| 04:59.21 | simonrvn | cmatheson: innit *DISCOVER issued from the client? |
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| 05:04.07 | krammer84 | como recupero el grub??? |
| 05:04.13 | cmatheson | simonrvn: yeah, i see a DISCOVER and then i send out the OFFER, only to receive more DISCOEVER's every few seconds |
| 05:04.45 | simonrvn | odd, you blocking broadcast or something? |
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| 05:05.02 | simonrvn | you should only block external ones |
| 05:05.05 | simonrvn | if you are |
| 05:05.08 | squisher | cmatheson, try running tcpdump on the client if it gets through |
| 05:05.42 | ekimus_ | cmatheson: did you recently update to etch? I think the default behaviour in dhcpd changed from authoritative to non authoritative (which would only hit you if you have a lot of changing clients or switched ranges recently - iirc) |
| 05:05.48 | cmatheson | simonrvn: i *shouldn't* be. i know that nothing has changed on the actual dhcpd server since a few days ago, the problems started about 3 hours ago. it's *possible* another admin changed something on a router and won't admit it--i'm wondering how i could test that |
| 05:05.54 | Azar | !es |
| 05:05.54 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 05:06.03 | cmatheson | squisher: i'd really like to--don't control any of the clients computers unfortunately :( |
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| 05:06.49 | squisher | cmatheson, hmm, that's not handy :) Can you try setting up a dummy client, see how that one fares? |
| 05:07.35 | cmatheson | squisher: that's a good call--i should do that |
| 05:07.35 | Rusty1 | Azar: is there similar ! for portugese ? |
| 05:07.42 | Azar | !br |
| 05:07.43 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 05:13.27 | Azar | well something juicy back again: RMS criticising OBSD, can't wait to see what Reyk and his boss have to spit back |
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| 05:13.40 | User364 | Hello I am trying to get a mount located in mtab to have quotas. Specifically a /home/ mount |
| 05:14.13 | User364 | ive had sucess getting my filesystem [/] to have quotas, now i just want the /home/ mount to hav eit |
| 05:16.05 | ivan | Azar: url is postgresql-8.3_8.3~beta4-1/changelog , do you think that will show newer betas? |
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| 05:16.41 | Azar | ivan: don't know how things work, but I would assume they will not list a yet-unworkable version |
| 05:16.49 | Azar | mjister Guerin!! |
| 05:16.59 | simonrvn | User364: you don't touch mtab |
| 05:17.58 | User364 | simonrvn i kind of figured. How would i get disk quotas for /home/ ? I would have to make a filesystem for /home/ ? |
| 05:18.05 | squisher | User364, you shouldn't ever need to look at mtab... edit fstab, and use the output of 'mount' to verify |
| 05:18.33 | simonrvn | you edit fstab, first, then add relevant *quota args to the appropriate line |
| 05:18.35 | User364 | ive gotten it to work fine with my filesystem, but i only have a root filesystem. I wanted the disk quotas only to be /home/ |
| 05:18.46 | simonrvn | man mount; man fstab |
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| 05:19.29 | User364 | I have grpquotas (i want groups) added to fstab, I've remounted the FS and also mounted /home/ using the same device, but i cant get it from there |
| 05:20.32 | squisher | User364, what do you mean "mounted /home/ using the same device"? Is /home on a separate partition as root or not? |
| 05:20.59 | User364 | no /home/ is located on the / partition |
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| 05:21.19 | User364 | there is no way to get quotas on a certain directory in a partition? |
| 05:21.19 | squisher | User364, then you should be all done if / has the correct mount option |
| 05:21.42 | squisher | User364, I don't know quotas at all, but regarding the mount options you can only work with / if that's the only partition you have |
| 05:22.38 | Azar | hahaha RMS accuses OBSD of containing (including) blobs gotta see what answers he gets: they reply that linux is more riddled with blobs |
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| 05:23.31 | User364 | yeah right now I am getting this: http://pastebin.com/m54f79e6b |
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| 05:25.04 | simonrvn | User364: you can't do that (TMK) |
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| 05:26.16 | squisher | User364, IMHO it's extremely good practice to put /home on a separate partition in any case |
| 05:26.17 | dbmoodb | quick q - is the performance of xfs that much greater than ext3 ? |
| 05:26.47 | User364 | squisher: i was considering that but the quick brief research I had on making a new partition said i would lose information on /home/ |
| 05:27.23 | squisher | User364, what do you mean by "lose information"? |
| 05:27.45 | User364 | data would be lost when I make a /home/ partition according to one website |
| 05:27.49 | squisher | you can transition pretty smoothly, if you still have unpartitioned space |
| 05:28.04 | ulrik | it's very convenient too, since you can have two distros or more on separate smaller partitions, and the data in /home on a separate |
| 05:28.07 | squisher | User364, not a good website then |
| 05:28.08 | User364 | I dont, and i am using a VPS with XEN software so i am causious preceding |
| 05:28.33 | squisher | User364, VPS? |
| 05:29.28 | User364 | virtual private server, its like a virtualization of a dedicated machine |
| 05:30.41 | squisher | User364, ah. What does that have to do with how you partition things? So you don't control the dom0? |
| 05:32.11 | User364 | yea i control most things, i just wanted to bring that up before i precede if any light bulbs come up in anyone. Since i have no unpartitioned space , will i lose data anywhere |
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| 05:33.48 | squisher | User364, parted can resize partitions, that shouldn't be an issue. Are you using raw devices for the domU, or files? |
| 05:34.25 | User364 | I am not sure how VPS work |
| 05:34.44 | squisher | User364, so you are not the one that set xen up? |
| 05:34.54 | User364 | no, i rent this server |
| 05:35.03 | Guerin | User364: then talk to the admin. |
| 05:35.35 | User364 | its pretty unmanaged and he is unfamilar, i didnt think id run into partition problems when just trying to figure out /home/ data usage but ill email him |
| 05:35.53 | squisher | User364, get a better hoster then ;-) |
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| 05:36.17 | User364 | I actually just downgraded from a managed host to unmanaged to cut costs lol |
| 05:36.50 | User364 | its not even a huge deal, the main reason I want just /home/ as a quota is because when using / it has like 50 UIDs that dont exist in the repquota |
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| 05:45.54 | dryrot | can i have more than one DHCP server running on a network ? |
| 05:46.17 | cast | sure. |
| 05:46.27 | dryrot | will they fight to the death? |
| 05:48.14 | squisher | depends how you configure them ;-) |
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| 05:54.51 | pickcoder | Is there any way I can tell gcc to use multiple cores when building the kernel modules? |
| 05:55.18 | ulrik | you can probably tell make, not gcc |
| 05:55.34 | pickcoder | I've scrounged around and can't find any references |
| 05:56.03 | cast | make -jX work? |
| 05:56.28 | Vasistha | gosh, that seems like a very practical use of multiple cores |
| 05:56.33 | squisher | don't use make -JX for that |
| 05:56.58 | squisher | there's some env setting.... CONCURRENCY_LEVEL something like that |
| 05:57.05 | pickcoder | hm |
| 05:57.15 | squisher | man make-kpkg probably :) |
| 05:57.22 | pickcoder | I just want lm-sensors to work |
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| 05:57.49 | pickcoder | I'm not doing a package |
| 05:57.49 | pickcoder | I just need to rebuild one module |
| 05:57.50 | pickcoder | with my current config |
| 05:57.57 | pickcoder | but I get to wait for ALL of them |
| 05:58.07 | dosnubbie | Hey um... |
| 05:58.15 | bucky | you know what sucks.. debian loaded all those hardware sensing drivers for me without even asking |
| 05:58.29 | dosnubbie | I just broke x11vnc on my Debian computer by running it from rc.local, how would I fix it? |
| 05:58.45 | pickcoder | this board has an i2c chip that's not in the it87.c code |
| 05:59.04 | pickcoder | supposedly it's in 2.6.19 now |
| 05:59.33 | bucky | i should apt-get libsensors3 just to see what it does |
| 06:00.57 | lymeca | Hmm,there doesn't appear to be an openssl-dev package |
| 06:00.58 | bucky | yeah well i upgraded to lenny from a basic install.. about 50M worth |
| 06:01.04 | lymeca | Where are the openssl development headers then? |
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| 06:01.17 | Vasistha | pickcoder: I'm very happy with the backports 2.6.22 kernel |
| 06:01.36 | pickcoder | Vasistha: I may decide to go that route if this doesn't work |
| 06:01.43 | pickcoder | this has to be a stable box, though |
| 06:01.52 | pickcoder | I'll live without lm-sensors |
| 06:02.50 | pickcoder | 50/50 and 30/70 split avg with concurrency_level set to 20 |
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| 06:04.58 | pickcoder | meh.. my patch b0rk |
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| 06:05.22 | ivan | would I get much performance benefit compiling my own em64t kernel vs using the amd64 kernel? |
| 06:05.27 | ivan | xeon 3220 |
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| 06:05.52 | pickcoder | ivan: what are you doing with the machine? |
| 06:05.57 | cast | dunno. benchmark and report back! |
| 06:06.02 | ivan | resizing and splitting images |
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| 06:06.36 | pickcoder | I dunno. are the apps 64-bit? |
| 06:06.39 | ivan | yep |
| 06:07.11 | pickcoder | ivan: I'd be interested in knowing that as well. I have an em64t machine, but I'm using a stock kernel. |
| 06:07.23 | pickcoder | trim some fat off of it and do a benchmark comparison |
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| 06:13.06 | xerophyte | is there anyway to get smbios data using snmp ? |
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| 06:14.12 | RickyWh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:15.14 | dondelelcaro | RickyWh: you can use ntop, or look at ifconfig, or use something like munin or similar. |
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| 06:16.15 | RickyWh | ok |
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| 06:25.45 | coffee | I would like Etch to automount CDs. How do I do that? |
| 06:26.15 | kgoetz | coffee: are you running without a GUI? |
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| 06:26.52 | coffee | kgoetz, sorry , running XFCE |
| 06:26.59 | Vasistha | I want the opposite :) how can I make my computer not auto-spin an optical disk upon insertion? |
| 06:27.32 | coffee | if i am not mistaked HAL is in charge of auto playing |
| 06:27.57 | kgoetz | Vasistha: what UI? |
| 06:28.16 | Vasistha | kgoetz: well, I am using kde, and I thought I disabled it ... I guess I need to look again :P |
| 06:28.25 | kgoetz | Vasistha: ah, i dont use kde :) |
| 06:28.32 | kgoetz | infact, i might head home :) |
| 06:28.33 | kgoetz | afk. |
| 06:28.34 | Vasistha | oh, maybe the problem is that root has made a connection to dcop |
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| 06:29.24 | coffee | Vasistha, how are you trying to prevent automount? maybe I can do the opposite? |
| 06:29.47 | Vasistha | coffee: it's in kcontrol, just a sec and I'll find it |
| 06:30.10 | coffee | Vasistha, never mind , I'm running XFCE.,... |
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| 06:33.58 | coffee | I wonder if the fstab entry for the Cd has any part :"/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0" |
| 06:34.09 | coffee | I wonder about the "noauto" part |
| 06:34.53 | Vasistha | well, I turned off the media mount stuff, so it doesn't give me a prompt, but the computer still spins up the disc |
| 06:35.30 | Vasistha | coffee: that has to do with whether it will be automatically mounted at bootup (or with a call to mount -a) |
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| 06:36.39 | coffee | oh.... |
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| 06:38.00 | tuv | how does debian handle irregular timezones, e.g. +3:30 ? |
| 06:38.45 | cast | it handles +9.5 fine |
| 06:38.51 | Vasistha | tuv: probably the same as any other distro, check tzconfig |
| 06:38.57 | cast | [unfortunately my GPS doesn't] |
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| 06:42.20 | tuv | cast, so is any numerical offset a valid one, or does it check for range or some values? |
| 06:43.23 | tuv | i'm writing a simple gui tool that needs the time zone as input, and deciding on the GTK widget that is best suited for the entry |
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| 06:44.16 | gonzaloaf | hi, I'm sharing my 'My Documents' directory of windows with debian, I have put it inside a fat32 partition in order to have access to all my documents from windows and linux, anyway I use OOo in both OS, the problem is that I cant write in the directory from linux, the error is that I have 'not permission', but I have mounted other directories with the same command in /etc/fstab and I am able to read and write them, is it something particular with the 'M |
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| 06:45.08 | Vasistha | gonzaloaf: probably not ... why don't you pastebin your /etc/fstab for us |
| 06:45.44 | gonzaloaf | Vasistha: ok |
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| 06:46.47 | import | hey guys need some help install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables where can i get mono for windows |
| 06:47.08 | import | i did apt-get mono it installed it but i have the same error |
| 06:48.15 | import | anyone here? |
| 06:48.20 | stiv2k | hey how do you convert from bytes to megabytes? |
| 06:48.40 | gonzaloaf | Vasistha: there you go: http://pastebin.ca/813075 |
| 06:48.47 | gonzaloaf | Vasistha: X is the drive |
| 06:49.21 | import | gonzaloaf where can i get mono windows for linux i did apt-get mono but wine still says that i need it |
| 06:50.14 | Vasistha | stiv2k: mega = a million. In computer terms, it often means 2^20 rather than 10^6, though |
| 06:50.41 | Vasistha | !anyone |
| 06:50.41 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 06:51.48 | krammer84 | como veo los discos duros |
| 06:52.08 | Vasistha | !es |
| 06:52.09 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 06:52.53 | ekimus_ | heh, what's the recipe for ! es? more than 70% of the words end on 'os'? (no pun intended) :) |
| 06:53.28 | Vasistha | gonzaloaf: it's been so long since I've had a windows drive, I hardly remember :P can you write to it with root, though? |
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| 06:54.56 | ekimus_ | import: isn't mono for windows the .NET runtime (from MS)? |
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| 06:56.01 | perfector | the latest update to shorewall just screwed all my rules.. how do i downgrade?? |
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| 07:00.53 | Vasistha | perfector: hmm, that's risky business ... downgrading is seldom supported properly. I hope you have your rules backed up? |
| 07:01.29 | perfector | Vasistha: i do.. im trying to install the version 2.2.3-1 but aptitude cant find it |
| 07:02.23 | Vasistha | perfector: what version of debian are you using? 2.2.3-2 is in oldstable... |
| 07:02.50 | perfector | Vasistha: 3.1... so how can i get the package |
| 07:02.51 | perfector | ? |
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| 07:03.28 | Vasistha | perfector: well ... how did you get yourself into this conundrum? |
| 07:03.45 | perfector | Vasistha: i did an aptitude upgrade |
| 07:03.57 | Vasistha | perfector: and does your sources.list say "stable" ? |
| 07:03.57 | gonzaloaf | Vasistha: let me try as root, but later because, I'm in windows now |
| 07:03.58 | perfector | Vasistha: after ages |
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| 07:04.32 | perfector | Vasistha: it does |
| 07:04.58 | pickcoder | yay.. sensors work |
| 07:05.05 | Vasistha | perfector: ah, alright, that's ... not good :) you have partially upgraded your system to etch, but not fully, because you did not issue a dist-upgrade. How many packages did you upgrade? |
| 07:05.09 | Vasistha | pickcoder: yay! |
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| 07:06.16 | pickcoder | the bugfix I found online didn't work, but I managed to "alias" the chipset |
| 07:06.25 | perfector | Vasistha: all the ones that said it requires update |
| 07:07.33 | krammer84 | how view partitions of disck |
| 07:07.33 | Vasistha | perfector: well ... I believe the standard advice we give here is to finish the upgrade -- once you've upgraded packages, it is often very difficult to go back. Are you quite sure you will not be able to fix your shorewall rules? |
| 07:07.35 | krammer84 | disk |
| 07:07.38 | Vasistha | krammer84: fdisk -l |
| 07:08.23 | perfector | Vasistha: hmm im working on it right now.. upgrade as in go for the dist-upgrade?? |
| 07:09.03 | Vasistha | perfector: yeah. You definitely do not want to keep your machine in the state it is in, and it is not really very easy to go back |
| 07:09.20 | Vasistha | perfector: is it a production machine or anything? |
| 07:09.35 | perfector | Vasistha: nope just gateway.. |
| 07:09.52 | perfector | Vasistha: probably shorewall was the most imp package |
| 07:10.10 | Vasistha | perfector: heh, yeah, for a gateway it would be, huh :) |
| 07:10.38 | Vasistha | perfector: I suppose you have a backup of /etc ? |
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| 07:12.03 | Vasistha | why are there so many cd ripping/encoding programs? how to choose? :) |
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| 07:12.56 | pickcoder | bbl |
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| 07:13.36 | ceeKay | anyone know why tremulous-data is in non-free? it is licensed under creative commons- does that not qualify as "free"? |
| 07:14.11 | Vasistha | ceeKay: oh, probably. /msg dpkg dfsg |
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| 07:19.30 | ceeKay | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons_licenses#Debian appears to spell it out a little more clearly.. thx |
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| 07:27.21 | amolv | hi to all: i tried to install some server packages using tasksel..but i getting error as Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/tasksel line 345 Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/tasksel line 345 |
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| 07:38.33 | cafuego | amolv: You're probably better off not using tasksel and using aptitude instead. |
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| 07:39.03 | markybob | poor tasksel... |
| 07:39.27 | liable | jetscreamer still loves it |
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| 07:41.51 | liable | yikes, getting home after using dialup for two weeks, feels like I'm hooked up to a backbone :) |
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| 07:46.40 | SpeedyG | hi, when upgrading from sarge to etch, I get the error "Couldn't stat source package list $link-of-repo", after I update a second time, the issue is fixed... is this a common thing ? |
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| 07:54.08 | liable | SpeedyG: never heard that one myself |
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| 07:55.30 | SpeedyG | liable: me neither.. its just.. as if the regular apt-repo is updated first, but tries to update the old sources on the new repo or somth :| |
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| 07:55.57 | SpeedyG | i've tried it now two times (vm image I restored) and gave the same result the second time |
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| 07:57.36 | milezzz | I have a new Dell Poweredge 1950 (2 x quad core xeon / 8GB ram)...Is anyone here familiar with installing Debian on this machine? |
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| 07:58.16 | _12inch | i am |
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| 07:58.55 | milezzz | should I be installing 32bit or 64bit debian? |
| 07:59.06 | _12inch | or rather i will be after i am done installing it ! |
| 07:59.13 | milezzz | also was there issue with the BCE nics or the Perc/5 controller? |
| 07:59.15 | milezzz | oh |
| 07:59.18 | _12inch | you really got 8 gigs ram ? |
| 07:59.19 | _12inch | heh |
| 07:59.24 | _12inch | 0wn3d ! |
| 07:59.26 | milligan | milezzz: what kind of machine do you have, and how much ram does it have ? |
| 07:59.34 | milezzz | well 4gb now but I like to prepare |
| 07:59.46 | milezzz | I have a new Dell Poweredge 1950 (2 x quad core xeon / 8GB ram)...Is anyone here familiar with installing Debian on this machine? |
| 08:00.00 | milligan | I'd go for a 64bit system on that. |
| 08:00.06 | milezzz | hmm |
| 08:00.11 | milezzz | why? |
| 08:00.11 | milligan | This is going to be a server I take ? |
| 08:00.16 | milezzz | ya a web server |
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| 08:00.20 | milezzz | and database server |
| 08:00.28 | milligan | Better utilization of processor and RAM. |
| 08:00.33 | vlt | milligan: Go 64bit |
| 08:00.42 | _12inch | any forseeable problems with 64bit and 32 bit software in a typical web/database scenario ? |
| 08:00.53 | milligan | Not really. |
| 08:01.04 | _12inch | what "might" be a problem ? |
| 08:01.06 | milligan | The problems with 64bit linux are mostly in the guis. |
| 08:01.14 | _12inch | ah cool |
| 08:01.20 | milligan | in my experience anyway. |
| 08:01.29 | cast | 64bit problems are with closed source shit like flash and win32codecs mostly |
| 08:01.41 | milligan | I had 64bit gentoo running .. only prob I had was getting flash to work in firefox .. and I didn't really put any effort in it. |
| 08:01.44 | _12inch | yeah fuck "the man" !! |
| 08:01.50 | antixogh | haha |
| 08:01.55 | milezzz | well I was reding the perc/5 controller in this server has some read/write problems under debian |
| 08:02.20 | JJJJ | Hi, I want to install Debian via CDs. However I don't want to download and burn all 21 disks. How many do I need just for a base install? |
| 08:02.32 | _12inch | 21 disks ? |
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| 08:02.41 | antixogh | use the neti for the base install |
| 08:03.09 | JJJJ | Well my mirror lists disks 1 to 21 |
| 08:03.17 | milligan | milezzz: I doubt it's a debian spesific problem. If the raid card isn't supported by the kernel nativly, you're going to have to get free drivers, or compile your own. |
| 08:03.54 | milligan | milezzz: the last time I set up a raidcontroller that wasn't supported by the kernel, I went through hell. Some supertrack shit. |
| 08:03.59 | antixogh | you might try the dvd iso if that is an option |
| 08:04.41 | JJJJ | No DVD burner... |
| 08:05.07 | antixogh | "What's better for me — the minimal bootable CD-ROM or the full CDs? " |
| 08:05.19 | antixogh | "It depends, but we think that in many cases the minimal CD image is better" |
| 08:05.30 | antixogh | "above all, you only download the packages that you selected for installation on your machine," |
| 08:05.32 | _12inch | any of you guys have much freebsd experience ? |
| 08:05.51 | liable | JJJJ: just the net install if you have a decent connection, go read the install manual |
| 08:05.51 | jeff_hann | _12inch, what's up? |
| 08:05.54 | antixogh | "which saves both time and bandwidth. On the other hand, the full CDs are more suitable when installing on more than one machine, or on machines without a free Internet connection." |
| 08:05.56 | _12inch | same thing as milezzzz |
| 08:06.03 | _12inch | dual quad core xeons |
| 08:06.08 | JJJJ | Mmm... OK |
| 08:06.11 | _12inch | lots of probs under bsd ? |
| 08:06.12 | antixogh | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 08:06.31 | milligan | _12inch: bad hardware. You'd best wrap it up and send it to me for .. umm .. disposal. |
| 08:06.31 | jeff_hann | well, check freebsd.org is my best bet |
| 08:06.45 | jeff_hann | s/check/checking |
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| 08:07.07 | jeff_hann | you'll find a list of supported hw |
| 08:07.09 | entro | hi all |
| 08:07.16 | antixogh | yo |
| 08:09.51 | entro | i just installed icedove version: 1.5.13+1.5.0.14bfsg1-0lenny1, now i would like to install icedove-traybiff (available in version 1.2.2-13), but i cant, since i get a dependency error |
| 08:10.12 | entro | Depends: icedove (<1.5.0.10.dfsg.0) but 1.5.0.13+1.5.0.14b.dfsg1-0lenny1 is to be installed |
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| 08:10.39 | entro | any ideas? |
| 08:10.51 | antixogh | you could downgrade |
| 08:10.55 | antixogh | icedove |
| 08:11.00 | jeff_hann | entro, maybe paste your sources.list |
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| 08:12.01 | antixogh | enrto: are you using packages from the unstable or testing section? |
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| 08:12.31 | entro | i paste it here, since it's only two lines :) |
| 08:12.32 | entro | deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 08:12.33 | entro | deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
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| 08:12.50 | entro | antixogh: lenny :) |
| 08:12.57 | antixogh | lenny is testing right? |
| 08:13.04 | cast | ait is. |
| 08:13.05 | entro | antixogh: i guess so :) |
| 08:13.41 | antixogh | I would download the icedove version from stable on the debian site |
| 08:14.11 | antixogh | remove "icedove version: 1.5.13+1.5.0.14bfsg1-0lenny1" |
| 08:14.28 | entro | antixogh: i'm wondering, why there is not a testing version of traybiff available |
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| 08:15.07 | entro | antixogh: nah, before i mix my system, i use kde :P |
| 08:15.07 | antixogh | maybe it's just not ready yet |
| 08:15.45 | antixogh | I had a problem like that with pidgin the other day |
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| 08:15.47 | entro | antixogh: yea, might be. thats the reason why i ask here, maybe someone had the same issue |
| 08:16.03 | entro | so i will wait a bit :) |
| 08:16.04 | antixogh | I havn't |
| 08:16.11 | antixogh | alright |
| 08:16.21 | entro | thanks for your time :) |
| 08:16.36 | antixogh | any time |
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| 08:17.40 | entro | anyway, interesting behavior (this branding stuff) of mozilla.... |
| 08:18.05 | Internat | so how does one start a vnc server on an existing local session? |
| 08:18.09 | antixogh | I don't see traybiff in testing or unstable |
| 08:18.43 | antixogh | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=traybiff&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
| 08:19.05 | entro | antixogh: suite=stable |
| 08:19.08 | antixogh | are you using X internat? |
| 08:19.12 | Internat | yes |
| 08:19.34 | entro | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/icedove-traybiff |
| 08:19.47 | antixogh | oops |
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| 08:19.56 | entro | guess it's only in testing and sid |
| 08:20.08 | antixogh | xvncviewer |
| 08:20.18 | entro | thats, why i was wondering, why it depends on a "non-testig" version of the core client |
| 08:20.24 | antixogh | is what I used |
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| 08:22.08 | entro | lol, check this out: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/icedove-traybiff |
| 08:22.16 | entro | icedove (<< 1.5.0.10.dfsg.0) free/unbranded thunderbird mail client |
| 08:22.16 | entro | dep: icedove (>= 1.5.0.10.dfsg) |
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| 08:22.20 | entro | hm |
| 08:22.37 | entro | < 0.10 but >= 0.10 |
| 08:22.42 | entro | haha |
| 08:22.49 | antixogh | weird |
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| 08:23.14 | entro | well, i guesst there are not many packages, which fit that requirements :P |
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| 08:23.27 | antixogh | what version of bifftray did you try to install? |
| 08:23.38 | entro | 1.2.2-13 |
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| 08:24.03 | perfector_ | any1 used some ide for bash?? |
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| 08:24.32 | liable | perfector_: #bash do |
| 08:25.11 | tralala | perfector_, vim |
| 08:26.07 | _12inch | ok i usually use freebsd ..... regarding partition sizes in debian ... what are good sizes ... i.e where does it like to dump packages ? |
| 08:26.16 | entro | antixogh: the bug is already published: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=428767 |
| 08:26.27 | cast | _12inch: in /var |
| 08:26.33 | antixogh | I would try http://packages.debian.org/sid/icedove-traybiff |
| 08:26.40 | antixogh | and see what that tells you |
| 08:26.41 | tralala | !ig _12inch |
| 08:27.01 | cast | _12inch: you can use LVM, the resize [online] shit later when you change your mind |
| 08:27.14 | _12inch | hmmm |
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| 08:27.27 | _12inch | i did an auto setup .. with hom/var/usr/ etc |
| 08:27.31 | _12inch | and it made a massive home |
| 08:27.40 | _12inch | i assume its thinking this is gunna be some workstation |
| 08:27.54 | cast | noticed that. itll allocate however big it thinks /var /usr needs to be...the allocate all the rest to /home |
| 08:28.09 | _12inch | weird |
| 08:28.15 | perfector_ | liable: whats bash do?? |
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| 08:28.20 | _12inch | so when putting packages in it usually goes to var ? |
| 08:28.26 | _12inch | bash is a shell |
| 08:28.52 | _12inch | cast how big do you usually make your /usr partition ? |
| 08:28.57 | liable | perfector_: my apoligies, when you wrote ide, i thought you had missed an 'a' and meant idea, so i directed you towards #bash |
| 08:29.29 | mandrigal | will debian automaticly mount a secondary hard disk, aka just one with data on it, no os? |
| 08:29.45 | cast | _12inch: hmmm, lets see, on server its a 1.3GB lvm volume, 77% full |
| 08:29.50 | tralala | perfector_, man bash explains everything |
| 08:30.03 | antixogh | it should mount it |
| 08:30.16 | mandrigal | is there an easy way i can tell it not to? |
| 08:30.17 | antixogh | it has for me in the past rather |
| 08:30.31 | antixogh | check you fstab |
| 08:30.35 | mandrigal | i gotta hdd i wanna make an image of |
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| 08:30.39 | entro | perfector_: i think using an ide for writing bash scripts is a bit fulsome |
| 08:31.00 | perfector_ | entro: why would u say that? |
| 08:31.20 | liable | !ping |
| 08:31.20 | dpkg | pong |
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| 08:31.51 | cast | _12inch: on my desktop it's...3.4GB of files, i have only [/ /home /var /tmp on desktop] |
| 08:32.12 | antixogh | if you type mount at a terminal tit sould list everything mounted |
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| 08:32.13 | entro | perfector_: do you realy write scrits, that are so large and splittet into several class files and so on? |
| 08:32.39 | perfector_ | entro: hmm... thats a good point |
| 08:32.59 | entro | perfector_: if your scripts are that complex, i would switch to a higher lvl language |
| 08:33.14 | cast | antixogh: tit! where?! |
| 08:33.23 | entro | perfector_: dont want to start a flame war about bash now, but i use it only for small scripts |
| 08:33.40 | antixogh | redtube.com? |
| 08:34.07 | Shadur | ... The hell? keymap.sh is failing to start because it doesn't recognize 'ethiopic_syllable_swa' for some reason - but I don't use ethiopian keyboards and I can't find *any* reference to the thing in the config files. Anyone have any idea what I might be overlooking? |
| 08:35.02 | antixogh | it can't read it or it or it doesn't exist? |
| 08:35.14 | antixogh | -or it |
| 08:35.17 | perfector_ | entro: no ..i entirely get ur point.. no flame war issue in here |
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| 08:35.49 | cast | on a side note... |
| 08:35.50 | cast | !ur |
| 08:35.50 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya. |
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| 08:36.29 | Shadur | antixogh: I haven't the foggiest. It's saying ünknown keysym 'ethiopic_syllable_swa', KDSKBENT: invalid argument, and then fails. |
| 08:37.00 | Shadur | also "failed to bind key 255 to value 13260" which means even less to me. |
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| 08:39.23 | entro | antixogh: which email client are you using? |
| 08:39.48 | antixogh | entro: I use gmail, but I have icedove set up |
| 08:40.31 | antixogh | icedove version 2.0.0.6 (20071009) |
| 08:40.44 | entro | antixogh: hm, i normaly use kmail, but i need some anti-spam feature now, so i decided to switch to icedove. |
| 08:40.56 | entro | antixogh: 2.0? |
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| 08:41.25 | entro | antixogh: you on sid? |
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| 08:42.59 | antixogh | debs:/etc# cat debian_version; lenny/sid |
| 08:43.38 | gener1c | debdebdebdebdeb |
| 08:44.00 | gener1c | does deb need dubbing? |
| 08:44.27 | antixogh | she is waiting til later |
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| 08:45.03 | Shadur | ... Okay, whatever's screwed itself up seems to have hosed gdm but good. Back to good old startx it is. |
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| 08:45.52 | antixogh | Shadur: I havn't found any thing usful about the issue |
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| 08:46.35 | antixogh | you might try to reconfigure X |
| 08:46.36 | Sebboh | Hi. Suppose I have an account with a mail service like gmail. I have a username and password, and they require me to use SSL. Can I set up an smtp server on localhost that accepts mail from my local computers, and then sends it on properly with the user/pass, over SSL? What's that called? |
| 08:47.19 | Shadur | antixogh: Me either. I'm guessing it's something weird I tried to change a long time ago and then forgot about that's tripping me up now and I don't have the patience or the inclination to spend ages looking for it right now. |
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| 08:48.09 | antixogh | sebboh: are you aking what the process is called? |
| 08:48.31 | Sebboh | Sure. I think it's called a smarthost, but I'm not sure. |
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| 08:49.14 | antixogh | Sebboh: i'm not sure |
| 08:49.14 | Sebboh | Also, if gmail expects to talk to clients... Is there a difference between smtp-->smtp and ordinary mail client-->smtp? |
| 08:49.24 | Shadur | Okay. Looks like whatever it was was only fatal to gdm, not to xorg. |
| 08:49.37 | antixogh | that good |
| 08:49.41 | antixogh | that's* |
| 08:50.42 | antixogh | Sebboh: what is the end result you want? |
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| 08:52.38 | Sebboh | antixogh: I have a web application that can send email for things like forgotten passwords. I'm having trouble getting it to connect to the google-hosted mail server that my company pays for. But I can get it to connect to a smtp server running on localhost no problem. But I'd still need those mails to go out to the net. So, I figure the smtp server I run could maybe speak SSL with google |
| 08:52.59 | Sebboh | and use the username/password, etc. Since my webapp seems to be braindead. |
| 08:53.09 | K|NgGh0sT | I'm having my sata drives come up and down, and checking my syslog |
| 08:53.09 | K|NgGh0sT | Dec 12 03:48:16 slutb0x kernel: ata2: COMRESET failed (errno=-16) |
| 08:53.09 | K|NgGh0sT | Dec 12 03:48:16 slutb0x kernel: ata2: reset failed (errno=-16), retrying in 33 secs |
| 08:53.14 | K|NgGh0sT | That's the error |
| 08:53.24 | cast | lmao. |
| 08:53.32 | Sebboh | nice hostname there gh0st. =P |
| 08:53.34 | antixogh | nice host name |
| 08:53.39 | K|NgGh0sT | heh |
| 08:53.46 | K|NgGh0sT | this is slutt0p ;) |
| 08:53.46 | xand | Sebboh: yes that's a smarthost... exim does that quite easily. |
| 08:54.00 | Sebboh | keep your pr0n on those ata drives, eh? |
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| 08:54.24 | Sebboh | xand, ok. What is nail ? |
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| 08:54.27 | abbe | hi channel |
| 08:54.33 | Sebboh | hi abbe. |
| 08:54.44 | abbe | I'm trying to setup selinux on ubuntu, and I assume ubuntu uses same selinux stuff as debian |
| 08:54.48 | abbe | hi Sebboh |
| 08:55.05 | abbe | I've just checked out refpolicy trunk, compiled and installed that |
| 08:55.20 | abbe | but how do I load the policy using 'load_policy' ? |
| 08:55.28 | Sebboh | abbe, I might assume that, too, but I don't really have any way of knowing. Maybe #ubuntu knows... |
| 08:55.46 | abbe | Sebboh: I'll try on #ubuntu too |
| 08:56.10 | Sebboh | or if there is a #selinux ? It's kinda specialized, maybe it has its own community. |
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| 08:56.35 | abbe | yeah I'm also trying on #selinux |
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| 08:58.31 | antixogh | man load_policy or man man load_policy(8) |
| 08:59.03 | milezzz | Can anyone tell me if Debian Etch still has major I/O issues: RE: http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2007-August/032672.html |
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| 08:59.40 | abbe | antixogh: it says load_policy load installed policy, but which policy is it going to load |
| 08:59.40 | Sebboh | ?? isn't that man 8 load_policy |
| 08:59.55 | abbe | antixogh: I've 2 policies installed |
| 09:00.15 | abbe | antixogh: trunk of serefpolicy, and refpolicy-targeted |
| 09:00.19 | abbe | Sebboh: yes |
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| 09:01.30 | cast | milezzz: etch has been out a while, and was in testing for quite a while, so i doubt its a widespread problem |
| 09:02.06 | milezzz | thanks cast...I'll keep researching |
| 09:02.25 | K|NgGh0sT | stupid drive |
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| 09:02.32 | K|NgGh0sT | I don't understand it has no errors |
| 09:02.33 | cast | milezzz: are you a random desktop user...or do you have the same hardware as that guy? |
| 09:02.44 | milezzz | cast: nah this is for a very busy web server |
| 09:02.46 | xand | Sebboh: what? |
| 09:02.50 | sep | cast, ofcourse it's not a widespread issue, 8way servers is not that widespread :) and those that have 8way servers often compile thir own kernels :) |
| 09:03.22 | milezzz | cast: should I install etch amd64 or just stick with the 32bit version? |
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| 09:03.38 | antixogh | I would go to the gold |
| 09:03.47 | sep | milezzz, on 8GB ram amd64 definitiftly |
| 09:04.00 | cast | sep: i alwahs say things in vague terms when i'm not sure what i'm talking about :D |
| 09:04.04 | milezzz | well...I have 4gb right now but will likely upgrade to 8gb if things get sluggish |
| 09:04.13 | sep | milezzz, use amd64 |
| 09:04.25 | cast | openssl goes lots lots fast in 64bit, go 64bit! |
| 09:04.28 | sep | milezzz, you dont happen to know how the posted of that mail got to his results ? |
| 09:04.57 | milezzz | nahhh...just concerned me since I will have a buttload of I/O as well |
| 09:05.05 | milezzz | and I keep reading about similiar problems |
| 09:05.08 | K|NgGh0sT | apt-get randomly stops downloading too when updating |
| 09:05.20 | K|NgGh0sT | er upgrading |
| 09:05.31 | sep | milezzz, well they are kernel related. dont know if the patches RHEL uses are public or not tho. |
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| 09:05.50 | milezzz | I am guessing not |
| 09:05.51 | antixogh | abbe: this might help http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/papers/policy2/x689.html |
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| 09:06.06 | abbe | antixogh: thanks, just checking out |
| 09:06.29 | \amethyst | milezzz: presumably RHEL users can get the patches and share them with others |
| 09:06.30 | milezzz | well I will try Debian Etch AMD64 |
| 09:06.31 | milezzz | I will give Debian Etch AMD64 a shot then |
| 09:06.34 | milezzz | oops |
| 09:06.41 | \amethyst | milezzz: since the kernel is GPLed |
| 09:07.08 | milezzz | hmm I been searching all day and haven't found any info :/ |
| 09:07.09 | Sebboh | milezzz: one thing I notice about that guy's test.. he used install CDs booted into rescue mode. ..That's not even the same kernel those distros use at run time, eh? |
| 09:07.23 | milezzz | good point |
| 09:08.08 | antixogh | abbe: let me know how that works out for you I have been meaning to implament selinx but have yet to get it done. |
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| 09:08.36 | abbe | antixogh: sure |
| 09:09.48 | abbe | antixogh: well debian doesn't support loading policies from file |
| 09:09.58 | abbe | antixogh: it always loads default policy, looks like |
| 09:10.12 | abbe | antixogh: I need to checkout postinst script of policy packages |
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| 09:12.20 | antixogh | abbe: interesting |
| 09:12.21 | K|NgGh0sT | perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). |
| 09:12.21 | K|NgGh0sT | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 09:12.21 | K|NgGh0sT | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
| 09:12.26 | K|NgGh0sT | How can I fix that? |
| 09:12.40 | \amethyst | !locales |
| 09:12.41 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment (in Sarge) which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
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| 09:13.16 | antixogh | it's just a warning, not an error |
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| 09:14.57 | abbe | antixogh: the installed policy is listed in /etc/selinux/config similar to centos,fedora,rhel,gentoo |
| 09:15.54 | antixogh | does any one know where how the main menu in gnome works? |
| 09:16.24 | Sebboh | gnomes, of course. |
| 09:17.08 | Sebboh | they carefully and quickly stack up an array of pixels every time you click the button. |
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| 09:17.32 | antixogh | or more of less where the launchers are stored? |
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| 09:18.20 | asddgfrefw | should i use testing/updates or etch/updates for certain security updates? |
| 09:18.37 | dimir | Moin! |
| 09:18.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | asddgfrefw, are you running etch or testing...? |
| 09:19.01 | asddgfrefw | Kamping_Kaiser etch |
| 09:19.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | asddgfrefw, i'm guessing etch/updates would be the go then |
| 09:19.39 | \amethyst | asddgfrefw: look in /usr/share/applications |
| 09:20.13 | asddgfrefw | \amethyst no such file or directory |
| 09:20.47 | \amethyst | asddgfrefw: sorry, wrong nick |
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| 09:20.58 | \amethyst | antixogh: try looking in /usr/share/applications |
| 09:21.15 | \amethyst | antixogh: also, locate .desktop to see where the .desktop files are |
| 09:21.20 | asddgfrefw | oh one more thing, is there a website with all the mirror repositories? I'd like to find one close to cyprus |
| 09:21.22 | milezzz | am I right to assume that this will not compile/run on AMD64 debian: http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2006-November/028386.html ?? |
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| 09:22.19 | \amethyst | antixogh: Finally, the "Debian" submenu is generated by update-menus (see man update-menus) |
| 09:22.48 | antixogh | thanks |
| 09:23.02 | antixogh | my debian menu dissapears some times |
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| 09:23.26 | \amethyst | milezzz: did you look at the next message in the thread? |
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| 09:24.18 | \amethyst | milezzz: or, a few messages later, http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2006-November/028465.html |
| 09:24.23 | dokma | hi. is there a way to check my bios id from a booted debian? |
| 09:25.09 | \amethyst | milezzz: but it seems to require some hacks to get 32-bit pam libraries |
| 09:25.18 | abbe | dokma: dmidecode |
| 09:25.29 | dokma | abbe thanks |
| 09:25.55 | abbe | dokma: or biosdecode |
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| 09:26.01 | abbe | dokma: or both ;) |
| 09:26.16 | dokma | great, one will work I believe :) |
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| 09:29.52 | antixogh | /var/lib/menu-xdg/applications/menu-xdg |
| 09:30.01 | antixogh | found it |
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| 09:32.06 | simonrvn | «foo» |
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| 09:39.41 | lymeca | What can I use to find every file and directory a given installed package has placed on my system? |
| 09:39.55 | cast | dpkg -L pkgname |
| 09:39.55 | dpkg | No packages found matching pkgname |
| 09:40.10 | cast | thats not quite true, though |
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| 09:40.56 | liable | it wont show dynamically made files |
| 09:40.59 | simonrvn | dpkg: stop lying you effing bot |
| 09:41.02 | simonrvn | ;p |
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| 09:43.32 | diablo_vortex | dpkg, hi mate,, i am doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as you said yesterday for resolving my resolution issue,, but somehow it does not change to the one which I select, it just remains on 800x640 |
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| 09:44.55 | diablo_vortex | hi guys need ur help please, I am using kde debian version latest,, but i can not change my resolution ,, ,,it just dont go more than 800x640 which is not the limit of my vga card,, my vga card limit is 1600x1200..what should I do ? |
| 09:45.08 | zophy | it was me, the gunman and God |
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| 09:46.05 | mazzanet | 800x640? |
| 09:46.10 | mazzanet | what a queer resolution |
| 09:46.23 | sep | diablo_vortex, you can only choose between the resolutions configured in your X server |
| 09:46.26 | sep | !drxx |
| 09:46.27 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about <xmd5sum> if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
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| 09:47.02 | diablo_vortex | i think i am using xorg |
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| 09:50.19 | peter__ | good morning ;> |
| 09:50.28 | lymeca | Hallo peter__ |
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| 09:51.14 | liable | anyone know of a channel for hspda or wwan and such? |
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| 09:51.48 | antixogh | 1200 Micrograms - Ayahuasca =] |
| 09:52.57 | liable | hmm, micrograms, sounds interesting |
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| 09:54.55 | stefano_ | hello everybody. I'd like to do this: I've a squid caching proxy on a debian sid. when someone tries to reach an external site http://www.a.com, the index.html shoud be served by squid locally (it's a modified one) while all the other things should be get using the net from the original site. How could I do it? |
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| 09:56.00 | antixogh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1200_Micrograms |
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| 09:57.52 | capiira | hi does exist something like "bind" to merge two directories? |
| 09:58.18 | Kevin` | capiira unionfs? |
| 09:58.34 | capiira | thanks will take a look never heard of it |
| 09:58.42 | Kevin` | capiira where do you get the "bind" reference from, in my experience bind is a dns server heh |
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| 09:59.09 | smiler | Kevin`: mount -o bind |
| 09:59.15 | Kevin` | ah |
| 09:59.17 | scylax | hi has anyone here installed the snmp plugins for nagios? |
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| 10:03.09 | antixogh | any one know of any torrent apps other than azureus, that look and feel the same way? |
| 10:03.28 | ivan | utorrent |
| 10:03.33 | ivan | ktorrent? |
| 10:03.51 | antixogh | for linux, gnome |
| 10:04.02 | antixogh | does ktorrent reguire kde? |
| 10:04.09 | antixogh | require |
| 10:04.18 | cast | you can run kde apps in gnome |
| 10:04.49 | antixogh | hmm |
| 10:04.54 | antixogh | i'll try it out |
| 10:05.10 | antixogh | I using utorrent through wine at the moment |
| 10:05.23 | antixogh | but I want something oss |
| 10:05.36 | cast | good. floss is better :) |
| 10:06.16 | antixogh | that what they say but my toothbrush works fine for me |
| 10:06.20 | mandrigal | i ran ktorrent in gnome before |
| 10:06.32 | mandrigal | and the gnome torrent thingy in kde before |
| 10:06.37 | mandrigal | i prefer ktorrent |
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| 10:08.27 | antixogh | I have to install kde though |
| 10:08.37 | antixogh | hmm |
| 10:08.42 | cast | no you don't. |
| 10:08.45 | cast | just some libs ;P |
| 10:08.51 | mandrigal | yeah like qt |
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| 10:09.36 | cast | don't mind that you might end up installing a third of kde, some kde apps are very good |
| 10:09.51 | mandrigal | lol |
| 10:10.02 | BadRobot | hi |
| 10:10.16 | mandrigal | ihave all kde and gnome and xfce and fluxbox installed! |
| 10:10.20 | BadRobot | how do i add extra repositories to my source list?I knew it but can't remember the commands |
| 10:10.35 | RichiH | vim /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 10:10.44 | BadRobot | thx |
| 10:10.47 | RichiH | np |
| 10:12.06 | diablo_vortex | sep, sorry for late reply ,, but i have reconfigured my xserver sveral times using dpkg-reconfigure and set the resoultion for 1200x1024 but it just does not appear |
| 10:12.21 | diablo_vortex | sep, i know there is no problem with the vga card support or monitor at all |
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| 10:13.14 | DustyBin | i need to allocate more shared memory to zoneminder but im not 100% sure with what im doing |
| 10:13.26 | DustyBin | cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmall = 2097152 |
| 10:13.40 | DustyBin | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:13.48 | mandrigal | are you using hte vesa driver? |
| 10:13.53 | mandrigal | *the |
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| 10:14.12 | mandrigal | 2 diablo |
| 10:14.12 | DustyBin | echo XXXXXXXX >/proc/sys/kernel/shmall |
| 10:14.15 | mandrigal | * |
| 10:14.24 | DustyBin | echo XXXXXXXX >/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax |
| 10:14.32 | DustyBin | what figures do i changed to give me a extra 128megs of shared memory? |
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| 10:17.42 | antixogh | kamera, kdebase-bin, kdebase-bin-kde3, kdebase-data, kdebase-kio-plugins, kdelibs-data, kdelibs4c2a, mdemultimedia-kio-plugins, kdesktop, libakode2, libarts1-akode, libarts1c2a, libavahi-qt3-1, libdbus-qt-1-1c2, libgeoip1, libkcddb1, libkonq4, liblua50, liblualib50, libopenexr2ldbl |
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| 10:19.33 | antixogh | dustybin i'm not sure, I would guess you can configure the shared memory in the bios assuming you mean shared between the video card and the system ram |
| 10:20.54 | sep | diablo_vortex, then it's probably a problem with the vrefresh and hsync values. X removes the modes that outside the boundaries for the vlaues you provide for your monitor |
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| 10:21.48 | DustyBin | antixogh: http://www.zoneminder.com/index.php?id=41&backPID=33&tx_faq_faq=10 |
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| 10:23.04 | diablo_vortex | sep, how can i know what are the exact values which shoul dbe used |
| 10:23.08 | diablo_vortex | sep, i am not sure |
| 10:23.44 | sep | diablo_vortex, hmm personaly i read them out of the manual or pdf of the monitor. or you can perhaps use tools like ddcprobe or hwdetect or others |
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| 10:24.05 | antixogh | it tells you right there |
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| 10:24.44 | DustyBin | antixogh: its not clear enough you silly sod :P |
| 10:25.21 | antixogh | one sec |
| 10:26.18 | antixogh | do you know how much you need in MBs? |
| 10:27.16 | distatica | Hey folks, how could I clear the results of a debconf? I was installing virtualbox, and it asked if I wanted to compile a kernel module, I said no because I didn't have build-essential and kernel stuff installed. Afterwards I apt-get remove'd virtualbox, did an apt-get clean, and tried to install again, but it still says that the module compilation is denied through a debconf setting. |
| 10:27.29 | distatica | I'm looking through dmesg, but can't see anything related to it. |
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| 10:29.01 | antixogh | "echo 134217728 >/proc/sys/kernel/shmall" "$ echo 134217728 >/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax" = 128mb |
| 10:29.12 | erudified | Man... Launchd is an init system with cojones |
| 10:29.33 | DustyBin | 134217728 = the example settings! |
| 10:29.36 | erudified | "we provide no facilities for assuring processes start in order, just tell us what you want running.. we'll see how it works" |
| 10:29.42 | DustyBin | my settings are different! |
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| 10:30.03 | antixogh | so then how much do you need? |
| 10:30.09 | DustyBin | 128 megs |
| 10:30.23 | DustyBin | cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmall = 2097152 |
| 10:30.31 | DustyBin | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.36 | macsim | hi, I try to use rsync with rsynd, when I try to get the files I have @ERROR: auth failed on module dump rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1383) [receiver=2.6.9] |
| 10:30.44 | macsim | any idea ? |
| 10:30.45 | antixogh | those aer your current setting? |
| 10:30.49 | DustyBin | yes |
| 10:31.05 | peter__ | if I want to mount iso to /home/folder what should I looking for to read some FAQ? |
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| 10:31.24 | antixogh | then you would use the example |
| 10:31.31 | Kevin` | mount -o loop file mount_point |
| 10:31.34 | DustyBin | seriously? |
| 10:31.38 | antixogh | yes |
| 10:31.44 | DustyBin | aye ok :D |
| 10:32.04 | antixogh | there is some more info here |
| 10:32.05 | antixogh | http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/database/RHDB-2.1-Manual/admin_user/kernel-resources.html |
| 10:32.15 | DustyBin | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.04 | peter__ | DustyBin, I dont get it |
| 10:33.43 | antixogh | I think he typod |
| 10:34.06 | DustyBin | perfector: this is ALL the information i got regarding .isos |
| 10:34.34 | DustyBin | cdrecord -v -eject speed=16 dev=ATA:1,0,0 IMAGE.iso = burn ISO onto CD |
| 10:34.41 | perfector | DustyBin: huh?? |
| 10:34.51 | DustyBin | growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/hdc=IMAGE.iso = burn ISO onto DVD |
| 10:35.13 | antixogh | peter_: "man mount" if you want to know more about it |
| 10:35.45 | DustyBin | dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso = rip CD into .ISO |
| 10:36.10 | DustyBin | bchunk image.bin image.cue image.iso = create .ISO from .bin and .cue |
| 10:36.24 | DustyBin | all those are worth saving as a text file! |
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| 10:37.12 | DustyBin | peter__: id be interested to know how you get a .iso to mount once you find out |
| 10:37.35 | peter__ | DustyBin, well Kevin` already show me the way to do this, and its working |
| 10:37.35 | DustyBin | on mac os x its automatic so maybe there is something you can install from the debian packages what makes it automatic too |
| 10:38.12 | DustyBin | ok |
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| 10:39.17 | antixogh | dustybin: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test |
| 10:39.26 | DustyBin | aye excellent :D |
| 10:40.15 | antixogh | dustybin: did the "echo 134217728 >/proc/sys/kernel/shmall" "$ echo 134217728 >/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax" work for you? |
| 10:40.54 | DustyBin | yes thanks antix |
| 10:41.05 | DustyBin | i can now view my webcam on zoneminder at 640 x 480 |
| 10:41.14 | antixogh | good deal |
| 10:41.17 | antixogh | any tim |
| 10:41.18 | antixogh | e |
| 10:41.19 | DustyBin | aye :D |
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| 10:42.20 | DustyBin | how cool is this, i can view my webcam using zoneminder, than i can turn the light on and off in the same room and see it happen through zoneminder |
| 10:42.48 | antixogh | neat |
| 10:43.03 | DustyBin | thats a combination of heyu for X10 home automation and zoneminder CCTV |
| 10:43.13 | DustyBin | all running on debian etch :D |
| 10:43.23 | antixogh | heyu? |
| 10:43.34 | DustyBin | http://www.heyu.org/ |
| 10:44.13 | cast | X10 is a bit pricy though isn't it? |
| 10:44.20 | DustyBin | no not at all |
| 10:44.22 | liable | cool, i have an ole howto for motion, zoneminder is better? |
| 10:44.26 | DustyBin | my controller cost me £30 |
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| 10:44.44 | DustyBin | and the light and applicance controllers cost about £15 each |
| 10:44.52 | cast | hmmm, cool. |
| 10:45.34 | antixogh | and I thought I was lazy by just leaving all the lights off |
| 10:45.40 | antixogh | =] |
| 10:46.10 | DustyBin | some good news for zoneminder and debian users |
| 10:46.13 | DustyBin | http://www.zoneminder.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10818 |
| 10:46.13 | peter__ | Kevin`, but there is a problem... if I want to unmount iso, it says the "device is busy" and it cant... |
| 10:46.26 | liable | its in sid |
| 10:46.34 | DustyBin | aye |
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| 10:50.09 | DGnome | Hi! I'm trying to patch the iptables package with the l7-filter patch. Somehow the layer7-module never gets built when doing dpkg-buildpackage, everything else works except the l7-filter stuff. Resulting error: iptables v1.3.8: Couldn't load match `layer7':/lib/iptables/libipt_layer7.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Any idea on how to make this work? |
| 10:50.49 | antixogh | peter_: what command did you use? |
| 10:52.25 | peter__ | antixogh, reboot :) |
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| 10:53.00 | antixogh | haha |
| 10:53.04 | antixogh | nice |
| 10:53.17 | CryoVenom | hey, is there anywhere where I can look at packages that are making the move from sid to lenny...online? |
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| 10:54.19 | antixogh | packages.debian.com? |
| 10:54.56 | liable | org |
| 10:55.06 | DGnome | CryoVenom: try http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ |
| 10:56.00 | CryoVenom | DGnome: It says packages are entering testing, and some are leaving, how do I view those? |
| 10:56.09 | liable | CryoVenom: well, you can look at whats in sid, and it will eventually make it to lenny. You cant see a timeline or reasons or anything like that anywhere. |
| 10:57.08 | CryoVenom | liable: Alright hehe, I was hoping |
| 10:57.36 | DGnome | bjorn.haxx.se./debian/ can tell you why package x is not in testing yet |
| 10:57.50 | DGnome | so you have to know what package you are looking for |
| 10:57.57 | antixogh | CryoVenom: was there a specific packages you were interested in? |
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| 10:58.14 | CryoVenom | DGnome: Oh, I wasn't looking for anything in particular |
| 10:58.22 | liable | DGnome: that site is really only for packages that arent in lenny due to RC bugs |
| 10:58.23 | CryoVenom | antixogn: ^^ |
| 10:58.42 | CryoVenom | antixogh: **^^ |
| 10:58.44 | antixogh | -n +h |
| 10:58.49 | antixogh | ;) |
| 10:58.55 | CryoVenom | hehe |
| 10:59.25 | DGnome | Soo, anybody in here with experience on patching deb-src packages? |
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| 11:00.29 | antixogh | peter_ "umount /mnt/" (where mnt is the dir you mount the iso to) is the only way I know of |
| 11:00.39 | vaq | Can i somehow upgrade only one package with apt-get upgrade ? |
| 11:01.03 | antixogh | if you know which package it is I think you can |
| 11:01.07 | CryoVenom | apt-get install? |
| 11:01.09 | DGnome | vaq: apt-get install package |
| 11:01.11 | antixogh | i'm not sure of the syntax |
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| 11:02.13 | antixogh | DGome: and that with install the latest version I assume |
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| 11:06.40 | DGnome | 'apt-get isntall package' automatically installs the newest version of 'package' |
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| 11:07.36 | nocturn | I'm installing Debian on a Dell PowerEdge 2950, but I'm having some problems... |
| 11:07.42 | antixogh | alright I thought so |
| 11:08.02 | antixogh | what are said problems? |
| 11:08.23 | nocturn | First the system has 8 GB, while Debian sees only 1 GB |
| 11:08.48 | DGnome | nocturn: instal linux-image-2.8.18-5-686-bigmem |
| 11:09.06 | DGnome | nocturn: I just installed a 2950 :) |
| 11:09.15 | DGnome | blah, typo |
| 11:09.32 | DGnome | linux-image-2.6.18-5-686-bigmem |
| 11:09.36 | nocturn | Secondly, I used reiser on the disks, but I get the error that the fs spans beyond the end of the disk |
| 11:09.53 | nocturn | disks are in RAID1 (software) |
| 11:09.59 | DGnome | nocturn: never use reiserfs on a production system, ext3 is the most mature filesystem |
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| 11:10.59 | nocturn | I always use reiserfs, never had this kind of problem |
| 11:11.23 | nocturn | Can this be due to the RAID1? |
| 11:11.39 | DGnome | nocturn: no, most likely reiserfs crapping it's pants on your disks |
| 11:11.59 | antixogh | haha |
| 11:12.02 | harnir_ | Hello |
| 11:12.07 | antixogh | any one ever used "Transmission (BitTorrent client)" |
| 11:12.13 | nocturn | DGnome: Again, I have never seen this before, been using Reiser for 7-8 years... |
| 11:12.14 | wols_ | most likely the partitions are dimensioned wrongly |
| 11:12.17 | antixogh | howdy |
| 11:12.29 | wols_ | !anyone use transmssion |
| 11:12.29 | dpkg | No, no one uses transmssion, not even the people who use it. |
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| 11:12.35 | DGnome | nocturn: I used reiser before, changed when my data was gone. |
| 11:12.36 | nocturn | wols_: strange though, because I used the debian installer itself |
| 11:13.35 | nocturn | I'll try ext3, thanks for the bigmem tip though |
| 11:13.37 | harnir_ | I'm trying to put Debian installer on USB disk using the docs from the d-i documentation. Installer starts, lets me select the language, keyboard, but it doesn't detect CD-ROM. How can I use the .iso image? I've put it in the root directory of the USB disk... |
| 11:13.39 | antixogh | haha |
| 11:13.42 | antixogh | why not? |
| 11:13.44 | DGnome | nocturn: no problem |
| 11:13.57 | nocturn | CU |
| 11:14.27 | wols_ | harnir_: ICH8 or ICH9 based board? |
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| 11:14.45 | antixogh | I would think you would need to extract the iso image on to the usb device |
| 11:14.46 | harnir_ | wols_: no idea, how can I check this? |
| 11:14.59 | wols_ | harnir_: what chipset is it? |
| 11:15.04 | antixogh | I have no idea though |
| 11:15.27 | harnir_ | wols_: Intel |
| 11:15.40 | harnir_ | wols_: 82946GZ/PL/GL |
| 11:15.41 | wols_ | !tell harnir_ about kmuto |
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| 11:16.12 | wols_ | what do you need the CD for btw? |
| 11:16.56 | antixogh | !tell antixogh about kmuto |
| 11:17.09 | wols_ | !tell antixogh about selftell |
| 11:17.10 | macsim | I have "password mismatch" with rsync but my to rsyncd.secrets are same |
| 11:17.11 | antixogh | weeeeeeeee!! |
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| 11:17.43 | harnir_ | wols_: I want to put GRML on the USB disk, and have debian installer as an option in the syslinux |
| 11:17.52 | macsim | s/but my to/but my two |
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| 11:18.32 | harnir_ | wols_: any chance I can mount the netinst iso in /cdrom at startup? or I could put the contents in the separate directory... I'll try that |
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| 11:19.20 | harnir_ | wols_: I can use 'root=/debian/foobar' in the kernel command line to tell the installer where to look for the files? |
| 11:19.41 | wols_ | harnir_: normally, yes |
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| 11:20.23 | wols_ | where /debian/foobar is actually something like /dev/sdxx or similar |
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| 11:21.43 | harnir_ | wols_: oh... no, I meant a directory on the usb disk with all the files from the netinst .iso... |
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| 11:22.53 | wols_ | a usb stick can have more than one partition and debina installers are small |
| 11:23.12 | harnir_ | wols_: I'm doing this using: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en#usb-add-iso |
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| 11:23.45 | harnir_ | wols_: but it seems that d-i cannot find an .iso image on the usb disk, it just looks for cd-rom devices... |
| 11:23.58 | antixogh | I want to add a factoid |
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| 11:24.37 | Penix | !clue harnir_ |
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| 11:25.01 | macsim | If I use rsync without --password-file and enter the password manually that works, but if I use --password-file=/etc/rsyncd.secrets it doesn't work and the log says "password mismatch", but the password in rsyncd.secrets is the same I hit manually |
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| 11:25.20 | bliss | looking for precomplied patched binary for mutt any ideas where i might start looking? |
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| 11:25.24 | macsim | any idea about this problem ? it's a rsync bug on debian ?! |
| 11:25.43 | wols_ | antixogh: is it a useful factoid? what is it about? |
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| 11:26.05 | Penix | my hair? |
| 11:26.47 | antixogh | probable not and i'm not sure yet |
| 11:26.57 | ArmEagle_ | the data in /usr is during normal 'operations' not changed, right? (Except updating packages) |
| 11:27.06 | antixogh | I just wanted to know how to do it |
| 11:27.17 | themill | dpkg: abuse antixogh |
| 11:27.18 | dpkg | antixogh: You vacuous, toffee-nosed, malodorous pervert! |
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| 11:27.39 | antixogh | yeah something like that |
| 11:27.41 | antixogh | haha |
| 11:28.45 | antixogh | "(05:28:28 AM) dpkg: antixogh: Your type *really* makes me puke!" |
| 11:28.49 | antixogh | haha |
| 11:29.06 | themill | antixogh: be nice to the bot |
| 11:29.07 | Penix | antixogh: #debian-bots |
| 11:29.37 | wols_ | antixogh: only root can change it |
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| 11:29.59 | antixogh | figures |
| 11:30.09 | wols_ | antixogh: if it's not useful, the exercise restraint |
| 11:30.34 | wols_ | oops. wrong tab complete. antixogh you can change it but don't. ArmEagle_ only root can change it |
| 11:30.38 | bliss | looking for precomplied patched binary for mutt any ideas where i might start looking? |
| 11:30.58 | wols_ | bliss: packages.debian.org ? |
| 11:31.01 | Penix | bliss: the debian archive? |
| 11:31.05 | Penix | heh |
| 11:31.10 | themill | bliss: aptitude install mutt |
| 11:31.50 | wols_ | 3 idiots, one thought... |
| 11:32.12 | themill | !great minds |
| 11:32.12 | dpkg | Great minds think alike, and apparently so do yours. |
| 11:32.27 | antixogh | =\ |
| 11:32.57 | antixogh | so transmission doesn't seem very bad |
| 11:33.04 | felipe_ | hi i have this problem in debian |
| 11:33.05 | felipe_ | "LoadModule: error loading module 'mod_lang.c': |
| 11:33.05 | felipe_ | Permission denied on line 38 of '/etc/proftpd/modules.conf'" |
| 11:33.05 | antixogh | why doesn't any one like it? |
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| 11:35.15 | bliss | ok thanks the patch i need is patch-1.5.13.vvv.nntp i just thought it might be hard to find the mutt binary precomplied |
| 11:35.40 | DustyBin | ive got a lots of files and directories, and i would like to change the permissions of all the directories only, how would one do this? |
| 11:35.50 | wols_ | themill: where on irc do you see "great minds"? |
| 11:36.15 | themill | all around you on #debian except when it's Sunday or perma-sunday.... |
| 11:36.22 | mosty | DustyBin, find /path/to/dir -type d -exec chmod foo '{}' ';' |
| 11:36.27 | wols_ | DustyBin: find might have a filter for directories only, |
| 11:36.36 | DustyBin | aye ok :D |
| 11:37.38 | kryptoz | hi :) |
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| 11:38.34 | kryptoz | is there a way I can open a panel with some application launchers in my remote box (via xforwarding) on my local machine ? |
| 11:39.10 | kryptoz | kxdocker was my aim. But that runs soo slow and its sluggish! instead can I use the kde-menu or a custom panel ? |
| 11:39.29 | kryptoz | I dont know how to start the panel from command line. sorry ! |
| 11:39.38 | DustyBin | find /var/www/mythweb -type d -exec chmod 750 '{}' ';' |
| 11:39.38 | DustyBin | i tried that but i checked a dir but its still set to this |
| 11:39.38 | DustyBin | drw-r----- 6 root www-data 4096 2007-12-07 12:16 tmpl |
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| 11:43.29 | antixogh | "hey man is this a dream?" |
| 11:44.01 | antixogh | how do I set it to say something when I leave? |
| 11:44.14 | themill | antixogh: if you do, you'll get kicked. |
| 11:44.28 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:44.35 | antixogh | kicked never to return? |
| 11:44.46 | themill | antixogh: /part or /quit messages are OK, but Away messages are annoying/ |
| 11:45.12 | antixogh | I meant /quit messages |
| 11:45.38 | antixogh | so "/quit i'm leaving bye.. blah blah" |
| 11:45.54 | DustyBin | actually this works, find /var/www/mythweb -type d -exec chmod 750 {} \; but it to work recursively inside all the possible directories what might be in mythweb |
| 11:46.01 | DustyBin | i need it |
| 11:46.06 | themill | yes... /msg dpkg ircprimer |
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| 11:47.42 | antixogh | "/msg dpkg ircprimer" isn't doing anything |
| 11:48.04 | antixogh | apt doesn't want to talk to me either |
| 11:48.19 | liable | are you sure you dont have query windows? |
| 11:48.39 | antixogh | I don't know what that is |
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| 11:48.47 | antixogh | i'm using irc through pdgin |
| 11:48.51 | antixogh | pidgin |
| 11:48.59 | liable | antixogh: when you /msg the bot, it opens another window to answer |
| 11:49.24 | antixogh | I have a window open with dpkg |
| 11:49.40 | liable | so just type ircprimer in it |
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| 11:49.53 | antixogh | I tried that |
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| 11:50.08 | antixogh | "(05:50:04 AM) antixogh: ircprimer" |
| 11:50.09 | liable | meh, its not a factoid |
| 11:50.29 | themill | my bad... it's irc primer |
| 11:50.32 | liable | irc primer |
| 11:50.37 | diablo_vortex | sep, by running ddcprobe does it gives me the maximum capacity of resolution whch my machine can reach ?? |
| 11:50.42 | liable | !beat themill |
| 11:50.48 | themill | dpkg: ircprimer is also <relply> see irc primer |
| 11:50.48 | dpkg | okay, themill |
| 11:50.54 | themill | dpkg: smarter bot |
| 11:50.54 | dpkg | Yep! Always getting smarter and soon I will rule the world.... |
| 11:51.01 | liable | relply? |
| 11:51.05 | themill | fuck |
| 11:51.11 | liable | !beat themill again! |
| 11:51.17 | themill | dpkg: no ircprimer is <reply> see irc primer |
| 11:51.17 | dpkg | themill: okay |
| 11:51.19 | liable | ;) |
| 11:51.24 | themill | dpkg: stupid bot |
| 11:51.24 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
| 11:51.43 | liable | ack |
| 11:52.02 | antixogh | haha |
| 11:53.23 | antixogh | I want one now |
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| 11:54.05 | antixogh | is having your own bot in the channel frowned apon? |
| 11:54.10 | liable | yes |
| 11:54.22 | antixogh | =[ |
| 11:54.25 | liable | one that answers to triggers anyway |
| 11:54.39 | antixogh | doulbe =[ |
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| 11:55.03 | liable | antixogh: what do you think would happen if everyone had one? |
| 11:55.26 | liable | hilarity would ensue, but it would get boring after 5 minutes |
| 11:56.00 | antixogh | I would never get tired of it |
| 11:56.05 | antixogh | I promise |
| 11:56.20 | antixogh | dpkg: I love you |
| 11:56.21 | dpkg | I love you too, antixogh. |
| 11:56.31 | f1y13af | o_O |
| 11:56.36 | antixogh | that is awesome |
| 11:56.55 | antixogh | I have a new best friend |
| 11:56.57 | antixogh | =] |
| 11:57.12 | themill | antixogh: no, when I have conversations with dpkg it's awesome and amusing, when you have conversations with dpkg, it's sad. |
| 11:57.14 | RichiH | antixogh: in that case, you are very very lonely |
| 11:57.21 | liable | just dont converse with your new best friend in #debian :) |
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| 11:57.51 | RichiH | so, using the friend's friend principle, antixogh and themill have each other, now |
| 11:58.01 | themill | awww shucks |
| 11:58.09 | liable | !aww |
| 11:58.09 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
| 11:58.19 | liable | thats nice |
| 11:58.30 | antixogh | I find this very entertaining |
| 11:58.34 | liable | #debian bringing the people together |
| 11:58.45 | antixogh | agreed |
| 11:58.47 | themill | dpkg: love antixogh |
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| 11:59.00 | fireba11 | "shucks" is a great word :-D |
| 11:59.06 | themill | Enough of that... I'll get jealous. |
| 11:59.13 | xand | *bless* |
| 11:59.15 | xand | that's better. |
| 11:59.30 | antixogh | lmao |
| 11:59.39 | fm_ | is a former debian apache maintainer now chief of a linux-distribution? |
| 11:59.42 | liable | i just had a disturbing mental picture |
| 11:59.53 | themill | dpkg, we love you |
| 11:59.53 | dpkg | Shame, I hate non-bots. |
| 12:00.13 | |Virtus| | haha |
| 12:00.19 | antixogh | haha |
| 12:00.42 | |Virtus| | awww no auto rekick :D |
| 12:01.11 | themill | dpkg: kickhim |Virtus| |
| 12:01.15 | fireba11 | if ou want one, that can be arranged |
| 12:01.20 | antixogh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:01.29 | |Virtus| | :p |
| 12:01.30 | zoddan | Hi! |
| 12:01.38 | themill | dpkg: greet zoddan |
| 12:01.38 | dpkg | Howdy, zoddan |
| 12:01.42 | |Virtus| | Hejsan zoddan |
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| 12:01.55 | zoddan | im having some problems installig gnome on my new installation |
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| 12:02.39 | fm_ | nobody an idea who is now chief of a linux distribution and was a former debian maintainer? |
| 12:02.43 | zoddan | it says that some packages is not available |
| 12:02.47 | liable | fm_: no |
| 12:02.56 | zoddan | im running unstable but i have allso tested testing, stable |
| 12:02.59 | zoddan | same problem |
| 12:03.06 | zoddan | same problem with KDE |
| 12:03.24 | petemc | zoddan: you shouldnt have any problems with stable |
| 12:03.35 | liable | zoddan: you need to supply actuall real error logs, paste them to a pastebin |
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| 12:03.57 | zoddan | and how should i do that when im on console :P |
| 12:04.02 | zoddan | have no GUI on it |
| 12:04.04 | themill | !pastebin pipe |
| 12:04.04 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. |
| 12:04.14 | zoddan | and btw im runing swedish language :P |
| 12:04.26 | liable | LANG=C |
| 12:04.31 | themill | zoddan: put LANG=C before the command |
| 12:04.34 | liable | LANG=C foocmds |
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| 12:05.15 | liable | zoddan: you seem to revel in making us work to help you.. |
| 12:05.18 | themill | dpkg: wb |
| 12:05.19 | dpkg | thanks, themill. It's good to be back. |
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| 12:06.25 | antixogh | how much is considered bad to paste? |
| 12:06.35 | antixogh | over 100 chars? |
| 12:06.40 | liable | 3 lines |
| 12:06.59 | Coke | Hey all! I'm browsing endless lists of multifunction printers/scanners and as always with hardware it's impossible to find either conformation on whether the device works or not. Google is utterly useless, is there a place where linux hw reviews can be found? |
| 12:07.00 | themill | antixogh: more than 3 lines in a few seconds and you'll get kicked by one of the bots |
| 12:07.04 | liable | more than three and you'll et kicked |
| 12:07.13 | rio_ | hi, a question: how to sync users cron-tabs using nfs-nis on clients? |
| 12:07.35 | tarzeau | rio_: you really want that? |
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| 12:07.36 | liable | though some will complain at any pasting, but the bots are set at >3 |
| 12:07.41 | rio_ | yes |
| 12:07.49 | rio_ | im using heartbeat and drbd |
| 12:07.51 | tarzeau | rio_: i'm not sure you really want that |
| 12:07.55 | antixogh | 3 line meaning carrage returns? |
| 12:08.10 | rio_ | im sure tarzeau ;) |
| 12:08.18 | Coke | For instance, Samsung CLX-2160, the claim they have "Various Linux OS support, including RH, Fedora, SuSE ...", but what exactly is that support? Did anyone try this? All the reviews are by Windows users and I cannot find anything in the Sane database. (cups has partial support for it) |
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| 12:08.33 | tarzeau | rio_: that's nice, but i am not |
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| 12:08.43 | rio_ | as mirror and master must be equal |
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| 12:09.00 | icemario | what's the difference between fedora and debian? |
| 12:09.04 | felipe_ | I cant install proftpd |
| 12:09.06 | paul_thujone | hi, what key do you press during installation - hardware detection, in the prompt asking for modules to be loaded? It accepts nothing but SPACEBAR to toggle a module or ESC to skip i guess |
| 12:09.07 | felipe_ | with apt-get install |
| 12:09.08 | tarzeau | rio_: we use dphys-config to distribute such files |
| 12:09.11 | Coke | icemario: they are two different operating systems. |
| 12:09.15 | ArmEagle_ | wols_ I meant that /usr only has data that's just 'read only'. Just libraries, docs, executables, etc. Not log files/whatever. The answer might seem obvious, but I jsut want to be sure :) |
| 12:09.16 | liable | antixogh: well, this doesn't always work in your irc client, its three lines pasted to the channel. carriage returns in a file dont always act as that in your client |
| 12:09.23 | icemario | any reason for using either? |
| 12:09.28 | icemario | over the other? |
| 12:09.35 | rio_ | ok i perform a man |
| 12:09.37 | rio_ | ty |
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| 12:09.47 | liable | icemario: your preference. thats it. |
| 12:09.55 | wols_ | ArmEagle_: yes |
| 12:09.57 | icemario | ok |
| 12:10.01 | Coke | icemario: I like Debian because of two reasons 1) the packages marked Stable are -really- stable and 2) great package repository. |
| 12:10.20 | icemario | k |
| 12:10.21 | SamuraiDio | can i message to a debian buglist? how/ |
| 12:10.32 | ArmEagle_ | ok, thanks. |
| 12:10.34 | Coke | icemario: I'm a minimalist so OS' like Ubuntu does not impress me. Fedora/RH have a different, retarded package system that doesn't really work at all. |
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| 12:10.48 | liable | paul_thujone: spacebar marks, tab toggles, or arrows, then enter |
| 12:10.54 | Coke | icemario: if you want the latest stuff to work out of the box I guess Ubuntu would be your choice. |
| 12:11.08 | Coke | icemario: as to why anybody would use Red Hat or Fedora is beyond my comprehension. |
| 12:11.13 | rio_ | tarzeau: it uses http? |
| 12:11.23 | rio_ | not good |
| 12:11.31 | tarzeau | rio_: the developer also has a file:// version, i have https:// versions |
| 12:11.34 | paul_thujone | liable: it doesn't receive any ENTER on that tab, while it does on other tabs, or alt shells |
| 12:11.37 | tarzeau | rio_: why not? what do you need? |
| 12:11.41 | zarac | how can i find out what graphics card i have (without opening the box) |
| 12:11.49 | tarzeau | zarac: lspci |
| 12:11.49 | wols_ | zarac: lspci |
| 12:11.53 | zarac | tj |
| 12:11.54 | liable | paul_thujone: you need to tab to 'ok' |
| 12:11.55 | zarac | hanks =D |
| 12:11.55 | paul_thujone | liable: s/tab/screen |
| 12:11.56 | zarac | thanks* |
| 12:12.07 | rio_ | tarzeau im not going to publish my user crontab file using http.. |
| 12:12.23 | tarzeau | rio_: why? is it secret? |
| 12:12.25 | paul_thujone | liable: thanks man, TAB was the key :) |
| 12:12.25 | liable | or enter, or whatever is at the bottom |
| 12:12.30 | liable | yw |
| 12:13.00 | rio_ | not so much but http isn't a nice idea.. |
| 12:13.23 | Coke | icemario: basically, what people refer to as "Linux" is a set of free software from GNU, BSD and other sources put together agreeing on a few standards for compability. The reason they differ is because people have different needs. |
| 12:13.25 | tarzeau | rio_: why not? |
| 12:13.28 | antixogh | whois dpkg |
| 12:13.36 | tarzeau | rio_: how would you transfer the files? scp? |
| 12:13.50 | tarzeau | rio_: rsync? ftp? |
| 12:13.54 | rio_ | tarzeau i think rsync/nfs/drbd is better |
| 12:14.05 | rio_ | well, ty anyway :D |
| 12:14.07 | tarzeau | rio_: i don't think it's better |
| 12:14.22 | Coke | icemario: my guess is that Red Hat admins _need_ to have a head ache, which is why they go with RH. :) |
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| 12:15.15 | liable | no, thier bosses need that enterprise buzzword for their OS |
| 12:15.27 | tarzeau | liable: exactly |
| 12:15.52 | zarac | is there some generic video drivers i can use? it autimatically set to nvidia in the xorg.conf and idon't think it's an nvidia card =D |
| 12:16.03 | zarac | generic drivers for video card for xorg that is.. |
| 12:16.10 | rio_ | btw my problem is not share a file, is to load automatically user tab when modified on master node |
| 12:16.20 | tarzeau | zarac: no. well vesa, but really no |
| 12:16.35 | tarzeau | rio_: how often? |
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| 12:16.46 | zarac | ok..=D .. never heard of the one i got from lspci |
| 12:16.48 | tarzeau | rio_: dphys-config loads them automatically when modified on master node (once/daily) |
| 12:16.59 | tarzeau | rio_: you can set it to reload more often, of course |
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| 12:17.43 | rio_ | nice |
| 12:18.07 | antixogh | what is used in place of "/me"? |
| 12:18.15 | rio_ | so it could be used for *any* service file |
| 12:18.20 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:18.40 | rio_ | http still not be my best solution ;) |
| 12:18.52 | antixogh | "Unknown command." |
| 12:18.56 | tarzeau | rio_: yes, that's the idea |
| 12:19.10 | tarzeau | rio_: i use it like for about 80 files, on 170 hosts |
| 12:19.25 | tarzeau | rio_: they're symlinked on the machine hosting them, so i don't have to edit many files on many machines |
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| 12:19.42 | rio_ | tarzeau: r u updating system configs too? |
| 12:19.46 | tarzeau | rio_: you can transfer it whatever way you want, it'llb e two lines to edit |
| 12:19.50 | tarzeau | rio_: yes |
| 12:19.58 | pem3v78 | how do I change text terminal font encoding ? |
| 12:20.06 | tarzeau | rio_: wiki.debian.org/Enterprise |
| 12:20.16 | tarzeau | pem3v78: textmode or framebuffer? |
| 12:20.19 | liable | damn you petemc ! i want to /disco! |
| 12:20.20 | rio_ | so u share configs like sources.list? |
| 12:20.26 | tarzeau | rio_: yes |
| 12:20.30 | rio_ | (via http) |
| 12:20.30 | pem3v78 | framebuffer |
| 12:20.30 | rio_ | ok |
| 12:20.35 | tarzeau | rio_: telnet linuks.mine.nu for my private sources.list |
| 12:20.52 | tarzeau | rio_: ah you mean at work? of course not everybody can access secret parts of that dphys-config repository |
| 12:20.59 | liable | you dont want to see tarzeau's privates! |
| 12:21.01 | tarzeau | rio_: we have non-free software and secret configuration files |
| 12:21.07 | antixogh | what how you say "nickname does such and such"? |
| 12:21.23 | pem3v78 | heh is it a kernel font ? |
| 12:21.33 | tarzeau | pem3v78: yes, but it can be set |
| 12:21.41 | rio_ | so u r using .httpd? |
| 12:21.49 | rio_ | herm |
| 12:21.54 | rio_ | .httpassd |
| 12:21.57 | liable | antixogh: you want an irc channel, this ones for debian stuff |
| 12:21.59 | tarzeau | rio_: no we use some other way to make sure not others get the stuff |
| 12:22.10 | tarzeau | rio_: .htpasswd can be authenticated automatic? |
| 12:22.11 | rio_ | vhost? |
| 12:22.34 | DGnome | Hi! I'm trying to patch the iptables package with the l7-filter patch. Somehow the layer7-module never gets built when doing dpkg-buildpackage, everything else works except the l7-filter stuff. Resulting error: iptables v1.3.8: Couldn't load match `layer7':/lib/iptables/libipt_layer7.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Any idea on how to make this work? |
| 12:22.37 | antixogh | you just did it |
| 12:22.45 | rio_ | tarzeau yes, http://user:pass@url/ |
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| 12:22.54 | pem3v78 | I see kernel has no compiled in fonts, so I must be using standard terminal font |
| 12:22.58 | tarzeau | rio_: no we don't do that, can be sniffed |
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| 12:23.07 | antixogh | and i'm reading http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html right now |
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| 12:23.12 | rio_ | via https could be an idea |
| 12:23.23 | tarzeau | rio_: we've got network monitoring, and id check (i forgot the name) |
| 12:23.31 | tarzeau | rio_: true, but we don't want to store passwords on harddisks |
| 12:23.31 | rio_ | ok |
| 12:23.34 | antixogh | I just want to do ***antixogh ... |
| 12:23.38 | tarzeau | rio_: not in cleartext |
| 12:23.44 | tarzeau | antixogh: /me something? |
| 12:23.49 | rio_ | im only "afraid" about sharing /etc/ dir via http... |
| 12:23.55 | tarzeau | rio_: what part of /etc ? |
| 12:23.59 | rio_ | many |
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| 12:24.03 | antixogh | gdit |
| 12:24.04 | rio_ | depending on services |
| 12:24.09 | tarzeau | rio_: only two: grub password and shadow/passwd for root |
| 12:24.15 | antixogh | it wasn't working before |
| 12:24.16 | themill | antixogh: please experiment in another channel like #test ... |
| 12:24.17 | antixogh | sorry |
| 12:24.18 | tarzeau | rio_: all the others are not sensitive, is it? |
| 12:24.26 | duncan | Hello, everybody |
| 12:24.28 | rio_ | not them, passwd and shadow r used by nis |
| 12:24.37 | tarzeau | rio_: these are the two we distribute a different special way (they are hashes only anyways) |
| 12:24.46 | tarzeau | rio_: ours too, but for root? |
| 12:24.52 | tarzeau | rio_: you don't have local root accounts? |
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| 12:25.32 | tarzeau | if you don't have any local users and your nis or network or dns gets broken, you're in a big mess |
| 12:25.35 | rio_ | tarzeau not a problem for root, i use only 2 hosts, my problem is only to keep services conf synced and updated |
| 12:25.45 | tarzeau | rio_: /etc/services ? |
| 12:25.49 | rio_ | as i'm on a drbd+ha.d arch |
| 12:25.52 | tarzeau | rio_: just distribute it with dphys-config ? |
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| 12:26.17 | duncan | what dose the command "cp -H SOURCE DEST" means? |
| 12:26.27 | rio_ | yes, it seems to be a good idea as u explain it to me |
| 12:26.29 | tarzeau | rio_: then create a mechanism to make the client nodes run the syncing with some easy push |
| 12:26.36 | jouke_ | ifconfig shows eth0, however ifdown eth0 says it isn't configured. Altough it s also stated in /etc/network/interfaces. Anyone any idea? |
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| 12:26.45 | tarzeau | duncan: -H follow command-line symbolic links |
| 12:27.09 | rio_ | i've done a "mirror-hotsync" script that rsync my configs up to now |
| 12:27.13 | tarzeau | jouke_: the scripts ifdown/ifup sucks, use ifconfig directly |
| 12:27.25 | rio_ | but is too "hardcoded" |
| 12:27.31 | tarzeau | jouke_: the network/interfaces doesn't tell anything about the stat, it's a configuration file |
| 12:27.38 | rio_ | i wanna use something better |
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| 12:28.06 | duncan | But what is "command-line symbolic links"? |
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| 12:28.27 | rio_ | my problem, up to now, is to sync user cron and reload all users cron jobs |
| 12:28.28 | jouke_ | tarzeau: ok, but that is actually the main problem. I am spoofing a mac adress, but on startup it doesn't seem to load network/interfaces |
| 12:28.52 | jouke_ | and I think it's somehow related |
| 12:28.54 | tarzeau | jouke_: you do something wrong, then |
| 12:28.59 | jouke_ | no shit :P |
| 12:29.07 | tarzeau | rly! ;) |
| 12:29.14 | tarzeau | duncan: maybe info cp knows... |
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| 12:29.55 | duncan | tarzeau: thank you! |
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| 12:31.15 | wireddd | which package is the apache2 init script supposed to be in |
| 12:31.16 | wireddd | ? |
| 12:31.31 | liable | apache2-coomon iirc |
| 12:31.39 | liable | wireddd: /msg dpkg search |
| 12:32.15 | peter__ | god damned... |
| 12:32.26 | themill | apache2.2-common |
| 12:32.32 | rabbitear | I lost my place. |
| 12:32.51 | peter__ | I have install samba and when I want to launch some application there is error "error while floatingpoint processing" |
| 12:33.29 | rabbitear | what a joke peter__ |
| 12:33.32 | peter__ | I am so angry right now |
| 12:33.38 | peter__ | rabbitear, isnt joke |
| 12:33.47 | rabbitear | I know. |
| 12:33.56 | rabbitear | they should be shot. |
| 12:33.58 | peter__ | rabbitear, I have install samba, but to install it it needs about 24 packages |
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| 12:34.24 | rabbitear | I hate it. |
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| 12:34.30 | melon26f8 | im looking for a book |
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| 12:34.38 | rabbitear | :) |
| 12:34.46 | tarzeau | melon26f8: in a library? |
| 12:34.47 | peter__ | right now etch is broken |
| 12:34.50 | rabbitear | its an emergency |
| 12:34.54 | melon26f8 | "the complete idiot guide to linux" |
| 12:34.57 | tarzeau | peter__: what of it? |
| 12:35.12 | rabbitear | :) |
| 12:35.34 | rabbitear | the complete "toned guys to read linux" |
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| 12:35.42 | rabbitear | err, reading.... |
| 12:35.52 | melon26f8 | i found it in a library 200km away |
| 12:36.01 | rabbitear | errrr. stoned! |
| 12:36.11 | peter__ | tarzeau, I have install something... quota/samba/xmms/wine/gftp or something else but from repo. And when I want to launch some application it says "error while floatingpoint processing" |
| 12:36.25 | melon26f8 | has someone the book? |
| 12:36.28 | tarzeau | peter__: wait software outside from debian repository? |
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| 12:36.37 | melon26f8 | so i can download |
| 12:36.38 | peter__ | tarzeau, only wine |
| 12:36.45 | rabbitear | thats not funny |
| 12:36.48 | peter__ | tarzeau, nothing else |
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| 12:37.37 | tarzeau | peter__: and what in etch is broken? |
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| 12:38.12 | peter__ | tarzeau, when I want to launch amarok and few other applications there is error "error while floatingpoint processing" |
| 12:38.19 | rabbitear | peter__, I'm on a bad keyboard, but I wouldn't know what that is. |
| 12:38.21 | melon26f8 | i looked in torrent and full release emule |
| 12:38.35 | antixogh | what is the error message verbatim |
| 12:38.38 | themill | peter__: please start at the beginning and address one question at a time. |
| 12:38.58 | peter__ | tarzeau, rabbitear yesterday there wasnt any error |
| 12:38.59 | rabbitear | one address at a time! |
| 12:39.10 | rabbitear | please! |
| 12:39.24 | peter__ | themill, sorry I dont understand |
| 12:39.41 | rabbitear | I'll get it. |
| 12:40.02 | rabbitear | peter__, its life. |
| 12:40.32 | wireddd | so, no apache2 init script in lenny |
| 12:40.36 | wireddd | great |
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| 12:41.17 | liable | eh? |
| 12:41.20 | peter__ | ok... :( Im going to install etch once again |
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| 12:41.42 | antixogh | that was really confusing |
| 12:41.46 | themill | !find init.d/apache2 lenny |
| 12:41.48 | liable | wireddd: explain |
| 12:41.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'init.d/apache2' (1): (/etc/init.d/apache2) in net/apache2.2-common. |
| 12:41.56 | themill | wireddd ^^ |
| 12:41.57 | wireddd | oh, permissions are just all screwed up on it |
| 12:42.03 | wireddd | by default |
| 12:42.33 | liable | sucks to be running apche on a server i guess |
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| 12:42.42 | liable | on a *testing* |
| 12:42.45 | liable | server |
| 12:42.58 | wireddd | yeah |
| 12:43.02 | liable | man I cant get my words all right in one sentence |
| 12:43.03 | itai | i just installed etch on an old laptop , everything is fine except the display is only in the middle of the screen, can anyone point me in the right direction? am i looking for the screen section in xorg.conf or should i look somewhere else? |
| 12:44.25 | liable | itai: i giess change your resolution setting |
| 12:44.30 | liable | !drxx itai |
| 12:44.30 | dpkg | itai: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
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| 12:45.13 | itai | liable, actually i run that several times but the only thing that changed was the size of the fonyts |
| 12:45.49 | liable | itai: hrm, so you have like a screen inside your screen sort of thing? |
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| 12:45.58 | itai | yes |
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| 12:46.07 | liable | odd |
| 12:46.19 | themill | itai: are you running a framebuffer console or similar? |
| 12:46.21 | liable | itai: what video card, and what driver are you using? |
| 12:46.26 | themill | itai: and what chipset |
| 12:46.30 | themill | yeah.. what liable said |
| 12:46.51 | itai | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 11) |
| 12:47.19 | liable | and driver? |
| 12:47.30 | itai | it was automatically detected so i am not sure what driver |
| 12:48.10 | themill | itai: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 12:48.11 | liable | go run drxx again and pick (i guess vga rather than vesa if its that old) or savage |
| 12:48.43 | itai | liable, i will try |
| 12:48.54 | itai | themill, in which section? |
| 12:49.22 | liable | i recall seeing in my ventures around the net lots of savage issues, even though I have never searched for it. google may help here i think |
| 12:49.38 | itai | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.49 | liable | try vga |
| 12:50.33 | themill | That was almost enough to put me off the experience ;( |
| 12:52.19 | liable | itai: i suspect you just need some config tweaks, but unless theres someone here who has had the issue, i think google will be your friend |
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| 12:53.31 | themill | itai: probably forcing it to accept a higher resolution is needed. Do you know the real resolution of your screen? |
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| 12:53.42 | itai | liable, google is my friend, however it seems that this problem is rare on Etch ,most cases are Ubuntu raleted |
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| 12:54.24 | liable | itai: if there are fixes, they would likely apply to etch |
| 12:54.26 | imagelife | google aslo is my friend |
| 12:54.27 | itai | themill, i dont know, it was a Win98 before and then died. I changed the resoltion in xorg.conf but strangley only the fonts changed |
| 12:54.39 | liable | try vga |
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| 12:54.58 | itai | ok - dpkging now, thanks for the help see you later |
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| 12:56.05 | zarac | how do i know if i have 64bit or not? i'm guessing that's what amd64 is for? |
| 12:56.27 | streuner | !amd64 |
| 12:56.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. It also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64. For flash on amd64, ask me about <nspluginwrapper> |
| 12:56.33 | zarac | thanks |
| 12:57.05 | zarac | i386 it is |
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| 12:57.08 | zarac | =D |
| 12:57.12 | zarac | easily convinced ;=) |
| 12:57.42 | troythetechguy | I'm running apache on etch. Is it normal that I have to be "root" to write to the /var/www folder? |
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| 12:58.27 | wols_ | troythetechguy: yes |
| 12:59.06 | wols_ | zarac: how much RAM do you have? |
| 12:59.19 | troythetechguy | Is this common for the entire /var directory, or is this just a security setting from apache for the "www" directory? |
| 12:59.38 | tralala | a good reason for amd64 would be - video encoding box, high load database server, multimedia/3D processing machine and generally anything that processes lots of data |
| 12:59.43 | Penix | troythetechguy: think about it. /var's a root-owned system dir |
| 12:59.47 | wols_ | troythetechguy: what other owner should /var/www have? |
| 13:00.15 | wols_ | Penix: /var/spool/mail/$user |
| 13:00.36 | Penix | I lose |
| 13:00.49 | troythetechguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.05 | wols_ | !pony Penix |
| 13:01.15 | wols_ | Penix: happier now? |
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| 13:01.35 | Penix | no. you didn't buy me that ice cream I wanted today |
| 13:01.38 | liable | ponix! |
| 13:01.42 | antixogh | can I have one? |
| 13:01.51 | wols_ | but, but but... it's a PONY! |
| 13:01.51 | antixogh | back btw |
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| 13:02.49 | Penix | I like when a buildworld on a slow(er) box finished right before bed time |
| 13:02.59 | Penix | or finishes rather. |
| 13:03.02 | Penix | need sleep... |
| 13:03.05 | troythetechguy | I thought I read that there was something "special" about /var because /var allowed access from all users. Maybe, I'm thinking of a specific directory in /var, like /var/tmp, or /var/mail. |
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| 13:03.13 | liable | buildworld? |
| 13:03.21 | liable | !slap Penix |
| 13:03.37 | tralala | these gentoo addicts... |
| 13:03.48 | Penix | gentoo? yuck |
| 13:04.01 | antixogh | -THWAP +Penix |
| 13:04.20 | liable | hah |
| 13:04.38 | Penix | that'll do for me. 'night |
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| 13:04.43 | Penix | !spank antixogh |
| 13:04.44 | antixogh | night |
| 13:04.55 | antixogh | kinky |
| 13:05.06 | themill | wols_: I'd expect /var/www to have www-data:www-data or perhaps www-data:wwwusers or something like that. root:root seems a bit odd to me. But then I always use /pub/ for the web pages as old habits are hard to break. |
| 13:05.12 | antixogh | dpkg: will you mary me? |
| 13:05.27 | antixogh | dpkg: will you marry me? |
| 13:05.39 | liable | themill: /var/www is roor:root by default |
| 13:05.48 | themill | dpkg: marry antixogh and antixogh |
| 13:05.48 | dpkg | antixogh, do you take antixogh to be your lawfully wedded spouse? antixogh, do you take antixogh? Cool. Kiss or something. |
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| 13:06.00 | liable | themill: you dont want web cgi's to be able to mess with it |
| 13:06.06 | Nir-PHP | hi guys |
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| 13:06.25 | nocturn | Hi all |
| 13:06.40 | [Gandhi] | hi |
| 13:06.40 | Nir-PHP | does creating a lamp server with debian (including securing it) -> is hard? (for begginers?) |
| 13:06.45 | nocturn | I was in here earlier, trying to install Etch on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 |
| 13:07.00 | nocturn | I'm having problem with the harddisks, they are an a RAID controller |
| 13:07.03 | themill | liable: yes good point... so wwwdev:wwwdev or something so that it's as easy as addgroup $user wwwdev to give them write privs |
| 13:07.06 | troythetechguy | I'm I alright having my web pages in /var/www, or is there a better (more secure) place I should have them? |
| 13:07.19 | themill | troythetechguy: that's a perfectly fine place. |
| 13:07.23 | nocturn | but how can I configure it? There's no windows on it, only Debian and that fails to install |
| 13:07.24 | petemc | nocturn: does the install recognise them, then after the first reboot they're gone? |
| 13:07.26 | eternalswd | I'm running debian testing on an old box (1998) that I had laying around my office. I had to set it up with a boot partition because the bios is too old to read the entire drive. I set up the boot partition as 128 MiB. When I run aptitude safe-upgrade, it doesn't upgrade the kernel to the most recent, and I'm wondering why that might be. Do I need to make the boot partition larger? ... |
| 13:07.27 | eternalswd | ...There seems to be plenty of free space on it |
| 13:07.59 | nocturn | petemc: no, some partitions are corrupt after installing |
| 13:08.04 | liable | themill: or root:root ;) |
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| 13:08.26 | petemc | nocturn: odd |
| 13:08.33 | antixogh | offtopic: does any one know of the asian hot sause with the rooster on it? |
| 13:08.46 | liable | eternalswd: what does aptitude say? |
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| 13:09.01 | Nir-PHP | does creating a lamp server with debian (including securing it) -> is hard? (for begginers?) |
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| 13:09.17 | liable | antixogh: dude, dont get that far off topic |
| 13:09.23 | OmnipotentEntity | Anyone know where I can find a .deb for nvidia-kernel-source version 100.14.09? I need to downgrade. |
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| 13:09.38 | eternalswd | liable: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-2.6-686 |
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| 13:09.55 | liable | eternalswd: and you did a dist-upgrade? |
| 13:10.02 | nocturn | petemc: I found some workarround to insert megaraid_sas before first boot... |
| 13:10.18 | nocturn | but that does not solve my problem with wanting to use software raid |
| 13:10.20 | petemc | nocturn: it needs to be in the initrd |
| 13:10.23 | antixogh | I put way too much on my food and I wondered if any one knew what that meant |
| 13:10.43 | eternalswd | no, I just installed fresh debian testing |
| 13:10.48 | Ronin | antixogh: can never use too much hot sauce |
| 13:10.54 | themill | liable: but if it's just root:root, you've got to addgroup wwwdev; chgrp wwwdev /var/www; adduser $user wwwdev. Debian's normally pretty smart about having groups defined for these things already (netdev, plugdev, audio, floppy etc) but for some reason not for /var/www. Admittedly, that's not going to be to everyone's taste, but it's a fair start. |
| 13:11.08 | liable | antixogh: actually, i thought you were leading into pron, i just saw 'rooster' and 'hot' and presumed the worste. but anyway, try and keep it on topic as a new #debianite |
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| 13:11.35 | antixogh | ronin: true |
| 13:11.35 | liable | eternalswd: so.. do a dist-upgrade, and go read the apt-howto |
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| 13:13.51 | eternalswd | liable: I've been working with aptitude for over six months and I've never come across a scenario such as this. Is that because it's debian testing that I need to upgrade the distro? |
| 13:14.50 | OmnipotentEntity | eternalswd, it's routine if you use unstable. Don't worry about it. |
| 13:15.03 | eternalswd | okay, thanks for the info |
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| 13:15.37 | liable | eternalswd: if you have been running stable, then there is usually no need for dist-upgrade, i suspect you just need to understand the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade |
| 13:15.42 | liable | OmnipotentEntity: not true |
| 13:15.58 | Loevborg | Is there a tool to find out which package provides a given command (say, "html2ps"), other than using apt-cache? |
| 13:16.04 | liable | OmnipotentEntity: testing is the same |
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| 13:16.34 | Loevborg | I vaguely remeber there being a program that automatically installs binaries that are called, but are missing... |
| 13:16.35 | ukh | Loevborg: apt-get install dlocate; dlocate html2ps |
| 13:16.57 | OmnipotentEntity | However, they're phasing out the dist-upgrade verbage for full-upgrade and it's recommended that you use aptitude full-upgrade instead. |
| 13:17.00 | OmnipotentEntity | They do the same thing. |
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| 13:17.29 | ukh | Loevborg: ah, sorry, you meant in the repos. dunno. |
| 13:17.54 | OmnipotentEntity | Anyone know where I can find a .deb for nvidia-kernel-source version 100.14.09? I need to downgrade. |
| 13:17.55 | liable | themill: ya, most i guess put document root into ~/, but i guess that makes my first point moot about cgi scripts |
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| 13:18.22 | liable | themill: its something i have always meant to get more understood about, but never get around to |
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| 13:18.37 | liable | themill: luckily, i dont admin /. :) |
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| 13:19.54 | troythetechguy | when I run apt-get upgrade, and I'm told the upgrade is linux-image-2.xx.x... Does this mean the kernel is being upgraded? |
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| 13:20.06 | OmnipotentEntity | troythetechguy, yes. |
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| 13:21.12 | JonkoPa | what is the name testing? |
| 13:21.18 | JonkoPa | dpkg tell us about testing |
| 13:21.19 | dpkg | jonkopa wants you to know: extra, extra, read all about it, testing is a release/suite between <stable> and <unstable>. testing currently points to <lenny>. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. Ask me about <etch->lenny>, or a few days old glorified unstable with missing packages |
| 13:21.22 | aeshyama1 | hi all,my i have added testing section to /etc/apt/sources.list but now as i try to upgrade ekiga by clicking it in synaptic,it shows a long list of softwares to be removed including gnome-desktop-environment...what could be the problem and how could i solve that? |
| 13:21.34 | JonkoPa | Is lenny currently testing? |
| 13:21.52 | Phil | JonkoPa, yes |
| 13:22.02 | liable | troythetechguy: if you have linux-image-2.6-686 meta package installed, then you need to use dist-upgrade, because a package depends on another to upgrade and blah blah, learn the difference between the two |
| 13:22.37 | rabbitear | JonkoPa, you coulda fooled me. |
| 13:22.53 | JonkoPa | ? |
| 13:22.58 | aeshyama1 | also some other packages also shows a long list of softwares to be removed like gnuradio which shows things like scim input method etc to be removed to install from the synaptic.. |
| 13:22.58 | liable | eh? |
| 13:23.23 | rabbitear | sorry, I was just looking at the debian thing,. |
| 13:23.34 | JonkoPa | i c |
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| 13:24.09 | rabbitear | was I too helpful? |
| 13:24.26 | peter_ | themill, I have question |
| 13:25.00 | peter_ | themill, right now Im on new etch... only installed amarok and xchat. Also Im on vesa driver |
| 13:25.01 | Loevborg | ukh, thanks anyway |
| 13:25.08 | antixogh | any one use the hurd kenel? |
| 13:25.17 | tarzeau | antixogh: yes, #hurd |
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| 13:25.43 | tarzeau | antixogh: and some use the freebsd kernel with the gnu c library |
| 13:25.47 | tarzeau | antixogh: #gnu-kbsd |
| 13:25.51 | antixogh | ... any one in here? |
| 13:25.59 | azeem | !anyone |
| 13:26.00 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 13:26.07 | peter_ | themill at the first, there is an update (linux-image-2.6-686, linux-image-2.6.18-5.686). Should I install them ? |
| 13:26.11 | tarzeau | antixogh: yes some in here do |
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| 13:26.26 | wols_ | peter_: yes |
| 13:26.35 | peter_ | wols_, ok |
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| 13:27.49 | nocturn | How do I migrate from a normal system to RAID1? |
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| 13:30.38 | suppaman | nocturn: define system |
| 13:30.42 | liable | nocturn: its a bit old now, but maybe help.. |
| 13:30.53 | liable | http://www.jochem.name/Debian-Sarge-Raid1-mdadm |
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| 13:32.51 | antixogh | tarzeau: I don't see #gnu-kbsd in the list |
| 13:33.16 | tarzeau | antixogh: /j #gnu-kbsd |
| 13:33.28 | tarzeau | antixogh: what list? |
| 13:33.35 | tarzeau | antixogh: if you do /list -YES ? |
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| 13:33.39 | suppaman | probably channels list |
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| 13:33.58 | antixogh | "/list |
| 13:34.32 | tarzeau | antixogh: i see it: 14:24 [gnu] -!- #gnu-kbsd 23 http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ | everyone, try http://www.mirbsd.org/cvs.cgi/src/share/misc/bsdstats?rev=HEAD;content-type=text%2Fplain (you'll need netcat, mksh, sharutils, openssl, and optionally |
| 13:34.56 | tarzeau | antixogh: maybe your purple irc is broken? |
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| 13:35.11 | dmehler | Good day, is there a way of regenerating the /etc/apt/sources.list file? I somehow overwrote mine while preparing for an upgrade. I'm running Debian 4.0, i'd like to move to testing. |
| 13:35.27 | tarzeau | dmehler: i generate it from telnet linuks.mine.nu |
| 13:35.40 | antixogh | maybe I have only been using it for two days so i'm still learning |
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| 13:36.29 | Loevborg | dmehler: apt-setup might help, too |
| 13:36.36 | liable | tarzeau: why you like to make people telnet ? |
| 13:36.49 | tarzeau | liable: less to type than wget or curl |
| 13:36.56 | tarzeau | liable: nc or telnet, most people just have |
| 13:37.08 | tarzeau | liable: and you can pipe it through sed easily |
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| 13:37.31 | suppaman | one of the coolest thing was star wars on telnet |
| 13:37.40 | suppaman | coolest thing ever |
| 13:37.45 | DustyBin | im trying to get my server to keep the correct time, ive installed ntpdate but for some strange reason there is no daemon inside init.d |
| 13:37.46 | liable | tarzeau: ok, its just odd though nowadays, just wondering. :) |
| 13:37.52 | dmehler | <libale, i tried an apt-setup and got a command not found. |
| 13:38.10 | liable | you mean me? |
| 13:38.22 | rabbitear | run away |
| 13:38.30 | dmehler | <liable> sorry, yes. |
| 13:38.48 | tarzeau | liable: odd? all those people in #nethack use telnet nethack.alt.org |
| 13:38.51 | liable | dmehler: apt-setup is discontinued post sarge |
| 13:39.04 | DustyBin | i found it |
| 13:39.20 | DustyBin | apt-get install ntp ntpdate |
| 13:39.30 | antixogh | is #debian_ oftopic friendly? |
| 13:39.30 | rabbitear | tarzeau, they seem to be missing out. |
| 13:39.31 | liable | tarzeau: yes, but you are talking nethack people! you think #debian these days is in that kind of group? |
| 13:39.53 | suppaman | nethack the game ? |
| 13:40.03 | rabbitear | it does exist |
| 13:40.09 | dmehler | <liable> Ok, what does that leave for options? |
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| 13:40.25 | DustyBin | nethack is a geek ascii based game |
| 13:40.29 | liable | tarzeau: we are |---| this far from being ubuntu :) |
| 13:40.32 | dmehler | <liable> I'm not looking forward to telnetting. |
| 13:40.49 | rabbitear | I forgot what I say... |
| 13:41.22 | liable | !mirrors |
| 13:41.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-setup> or <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 13:41.29 | themill | antixogh: no. They're an elite bunch of rude bastards who practice cannabilism and eat outsides alive. |
| 13:41.29 | liable | dmehler: go read that |
| 13:41.48 | rabbitear | did you woman think it was cool too mr. DM |
| 13:41.48 | asBook | ,v b hmmm |
| 13:41.50 | asBook | hmm |
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| 13:42.04 | asBook | i didnt know debian had a gui installer? i just findout after all those years |
| 13:42.12 | happla | asBook: news since etch |
| 13:42.15 | asBook | oh |
| 13:42.17 | happla | asBook: new |
| 13:42.21 | asBook | ah okay |
| 13:42.27 | asBook | i did always installed the oldway |
| 13:42.30 | happla | asBook: you had some experiemental stuff in 3.1 some release |
| 13:42.32 | asBook | but the gui installer looks cool :) |
| 13:42.38 | happla | asBook: well, it's so much ebtter with textinstaller =) |
| 13:42.51 | asBook | happla, hehe im just testing :P |
| 13:42.54 | asBook | but i like it.. |
| 13:42.54 | dmehler | <libale> I believe i did, i'll check it out again. On install i had this setup and i had osuosl.org picked out as an http mirror. |
| 13:42.57 | themill | I've never actually looked at it. Perhaps I should. |
| 13:43.01 | asBook | but not to install more then one pc |
| 13:43.01 | asBook | ;) |
| 13:43.21 | rabbitear | your being freaky |
| 13:43.23 | liable | dmehler: really, its as simple as editing a file |
| 13:43.25 | Loevborg | dmehler: just use http://ftp.de.debian.org |
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| 13:43.35 | spoown | Hello all !! |
| 13:43.40 | liable | dmehler: i'll leave that as an excersize for you |
| 13:44.04 | liable | dmehler: if you fail that, then maybe you should reconsidor running linux ;) |
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| 13:44.44 | dmehler | <libale> Thanks, editing the file and inputting the mirror is not my issue, the problem is what to put after the mirror, the software tags. |
| 13:44.48 | rabbitear | i like to talk to poeple. |
| 13:45.25 | antixogh | i'm parshel to expertgui myself |
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| 13:46.19 | spoown | Does anyone known how can I enable my "ifdown" ? ifup is working !! |
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| 13:46.40 | liable | show us the error |
| 13:47.16 | spoown | ifdown: interface eth0 not configured |
| 13:47.25 | antixogh | I only know getdown turnaround gototown dothebootscoochboogie |
| 13:47.25 | spoown | and eth0 is working !! |
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| 13:47.44 | wfq | hello |
| 13:47.45 | Loevborg | "parshel" -- that's a great way to spell that word |
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| 13:47.45 | Phil | spoown: ifconfig eth0 down |
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| 13:47.54 | liable | spoown: hrm, and how did you get eth0 working? |
| 13:48.22 | wfq | Could anyone please what is wrong with this folder permissions?. I am not able to read the uploads folder when I should http://pastebin.com/m2d9f2f9f |
| 13:48.25 | liable | Loevborg: heh, it did my head in too :) |
| 13:48.34 | rabbitear | ctc. |
| 13:48.39 | rabbitear | I jokes. |
| 13:48.50 | spoown | you can check my interfaces files here : http://rafb.net/p/tYxV8E91.html |
| 13:49.16 | spoown | Phil; with ifconfig there isn't any problem, but as xen use ifdown, it has to work !! |
| 13:49.30 | liable | xen |
| 13:49.38 | rabbitear | read the uploads with ifconfig. |
| 13:49.50 | spoown | is it perhaps due that when I want to do an ifdown eth0, I'm connected on the computer on this interface , possible ? |
| 13:50.00 | rabbitear | oh... |
| 13:50.04 | rabbitear | I feel naked. |
| 13:50.22 | Phil | spoown: is eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 13:51.00 | rabbitear | thank god for earily work done. |
| 13:51.02 | spoown | Phil, yes, you can see my interfaces files here : http://rafb.net/p/tYxV8E91.html |
| 13:51.31 | spoown | liable, static ip on eth0 |
| 13:51.33 | DustyBin | everytime i boot my machine i have to set the permissions for /dev/ttyS0 manually, is there a way to control the permissions of a /dev to survive a reboot? |
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| 13:52.25 | antixogh | dustybin: a script? |
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| 13:52.27 | tarzeau | liable: so near? |
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| 13:52.38 | DustyBin | antixogh: isnt there a official way of doing it |
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| 13:53.39 | liable | tarzeau: afraid so |
| 13:53.39 | antixogh | dustybin: i'm not sure |
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| 13:54.33 | liable | spoown: if you do ifup, ifdown should work |
| 13:54.48 | liable | spoown: no idea why not, your interfaces looks fine |
| 13:54.58 | antixogh | dustybin: I don't really do any thing useful with my computer |
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| 13:55.57 | Xinill | Hi |
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| 13:56.30 | Xinill | Anyone has idea why flash in konqueror don't want to work in konqueror? (sid) |
| 13:56.39 | Xinill | nspluginviewer just crashes on any page with flash objects |
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| 13:57.36 | antixogh | Xinill: does it work in any other browsers? |
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| 13:57.49 | Xinill | anitxogh: In Iceweasel, it works normally |
| 13:58.05 | antixogh | hmm one sec |
| 13:58.06 | moshii | What's that one liner for purging the conf files of all removed packages? |
| 13:58.08 | XoX | what is set to PATH when a cronjob is executed |
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| 13:59.23 | moshii | XoX: I think it would depend on what user's cron job it is.. |
| 13:59.33 | XoX | it's root's |
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| 14:00.21 | antixogh | flash nonfree right? |
| 14:00.25 | antixogh | not gnash? |
| 14:00.50 | moshii | XoX: probably what's in /etc/profile |
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| 14:01.54 | moshii | XoX: why not setup a cronjob like echo $PATH > /root/crontest and find out? |
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| 14:01.58 | moshii | XoX: and if you want to override environment variables, you can do that in the crontab itself |
| 14:02.33 | spoown | liable, isn't it not due that I use ssh remotly when I wand to do ifdown ? |
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| 14:05.47 | antixogh | Xinill: you might try "flashplugin-nonfree" and or "flashplayer-mozilla". or http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/64255-macromedia-flash-player-konqueror-web-browser.html |
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| 14:07.03 | themill | flashplayer-mozilla from dmm works fine |
| 14:07.55 | XoX | moshii, crontab file is a bash file? |
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| 14:08.27 | XoX | shell |
| 14:08.45 | XoX | OMG |
| 14:08.49 | XoX | /usr/bin:/bin |
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| 14:09.03 | jgr | Hello, I was wondering is it possible push wtmp log into syslog? But not in way like: last | logger -t wtmp. I want to store all log in database but I don't know what should I do with /var/log/wtmp and how it push it into database. |
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| 14:12.39 | liable | what do you mean? |
| 14:12.49 | liable | wtmp is binary |
| 14:12.54 | stratos | Hi all, I have FSC Primergy RX220 server with Etch amd64 installed. How can I decrease fun speed? |
| 14:13.45 | liable | installing windows should stop the fun :) |
| 14:13.53 | streuner | hehe |
| 14:14.03 | stratos | hehehe |
| 14:14.07 | spoown | l |
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| 14:14.23 | streuner | via BIOS, of course |
| 14:14.25 | DDave | install msdos |
| 14:14.25 | DDave | :P |
| 14:15.12 | happla | streuner: =) best typo today |
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| 14:15.59 | antixogh | is it normal for flam3-animate to start running and use 70% on the cpu? |
| 14:16.29 | antixogh | flam3-animate being part of eletricsheep the screensaver |
| 14:16.57 | Nyle | oh boy |
| 14:17.01 | TheInfinity | does anybody know how i can fetch the console output of an app running on anotjer console? because my ssh connection broke, and now dpkg asks something in the console of the dead ssh connection ... |
| 14:17.02 | Nyle | the heartburn! |
| 14:17.10 | gener1c | im having issues setting the system clock |
| 14:17.14 | gener1c | even via ntp |
| 14:17.16 | gener1c | it wont set |
| 14:17.19 | happla | antixogh: If you haven't been running electricsheep before it will download alot of videos from the ent, if you have a fast connection that can use alot of CPU |
| 14:17.27 | gener1c | i used sync chose the right country and all and its still wrong |
| 14:17.30 | keith4 | any problems booting debian from a sata card? |
| 14:17.43 | happla | keith4: Shouldnt be, depends on the card ofc. |
| 14:17.52 | gener1c | when i set it it holds for a certain perioude of time and after a few houres its back again to being folty |
| 14:17.54 | happla | keith4: if its fairly standard, it should work fine |
| 14:18.03 | keith4 | so... not all cards are created equal? |
| 14:18.05 | TheInfinity | is there any chance to get this dpkg or do i have to kill dpkg process? |
| 14:18.05 | Nyle | for some newer boards etch kernel is too told |
| 14:18.10 | antixogh | happla:alrighty |
| 14:18.17 | Nyle | there is some hw not working under etch |
| 14:18.32 | happla | Nyle: ofc. there is always hw not working =) |
| 14:18.32 | gener1c | what do you think might be the issue that coses it you think it might be hw related? |
| 14:18.38 | Nyle | !ofc |
| 14:18.44 | happla | =) |
| 14:18.45 | Nyle | what is ofc? |
| 14:18.51 | happla | of course |
| 14:18.56 | happla | Nyle: sorry |
| 14:19.12 | happla | Nyle: oh, man - one can't use some shortened words |
| 14:19.25 | Nyle | One can do as one wishes. |
| 14:19.30 | liable | keith4: entirely depends on the chipset and kernel support for said chip |
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| 14:19.43 | gener1c | of course |
| 14:19.46 | keith4 | crap |
| 14:19.51 | keith4 | i was afraid of that |
| 14:20.01 | liable | what chip? |
| 14:20.01 | happla | keith4: Your chip dont have support in the kernel? |
| 14:20.10 | keith4 | i'm shopping for a sata card on newegg |
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| 14:20.25 | mhirvola | #j /debian-fi |
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| 14:20.34 | Nyle | mhirvola: what? |
| 14:20.44 | azeem | tyoi |
| 14:20.44 | Nyle | mhirvola: /j #debian-fi |
| 14:20.47 | azeem | eh, typo* |
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| 14:20.49 | mhirvola | just typoed join syntax |
| 14:20.54 | Nyle | hehe |
| 14:20.55 | jolt^d4 | Hello party ppl |
| 14:20.57 | happla | keith4: Just get promise or 3ware and you should be all set |
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| 14:21.18 | liable | did he say raid? |
| 14:21.22 | keith4 | not raid |
| 14:21.26 | Nyle | i think he did |
| 14:21.28 | antixogh | poof |
| 14:21.34 | gener1c | the pesteside? |
| 14:21.40 | Nyle | he said shopping for sata card on newegg |
| 14:21.41 | antixogh | haha |
| 14:21.53 | gener1c | or the redundent array blah |
| 14:21.53 | gener1c | lol |
| 14:21.54 | Nyle | more than likely it will have raid of some kind |
| 14:22.00 | Nyle | unless its a real pos |
| 14:22.06 | gener1c | redundant* |
| 14:22.09 | antixogh | raid newegg pesteside |
| 14:22.12 | antixogh | heh |
| 14:22.15 | Nyle | oh that raid |
| 14:22.16 | liable | keith4: there are a shitload of sata chips supported now |
| 14:22.19 | Nyle | the cockroach killer |
| 14:22.19 | Nyle | hehe |
| 14:22.30 | keith4 | liable: good to know. i've never even heard of some of these brands, though |
| 14:22.37 | gener1c | smells good |
| 14:22.49 | Nyle | no |
| 14:22.51 | Nyle | it doesn't |
| 14:22.55 | Nyle | it smells like chimicals |
| 14:22.55 | liable | keith4: dont worry about brand, worry about chipset, thats what counts |
| 14:22.59 | antixogh | napalm in the morning smells good? or coffe? |
| 14:23.29 | Nyle | liable: no milk in house, or pepto, must cure heartburn, advise |
| 14:23.32 | Nyle | if you know |
| 14:23.41 | liable | Nyle: beer |
| 14:23.46 | Nyle | haven't got any |
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| 14:23.57 | gener1c | pepto bysmo |
| 14:24.08 | Nyle | pepto abysmal |
| 14:24.11 | Nyle | i mean bismal |
| 14:24.11 | liable | Nyle: dirty socks soaked in hot water? |
| 14:24.18 | Nyle | liable: just sit down |
| 14:24.26 | liable | luckily i am |
| 14:24.26 | gener1c | drink milk man |
| 14:24.29 | Nyle | hehe |
| 14:24.32 | gener1c | it helps alot for heartburn |
| 14:24.42 | gener1c | im serious |
| 14:24.52 | Nyle | yes o great mr hearburn curing guy |
| 14:24.54 | Nyle | :) |
| 14:25.09 | gener1c | :D |
| 14:25.10 | liable | dont eat so much curry |
| 14:25.16 | gener1c | its a buffer you learn it in bio |
| 14:25.19 | liable | beer works if you do |
| 14:25.22 | Nyle | yeh i had spicy food before i went to bed |
| 14:25.25 | gener1c | or chemistry |
| 14:25.27 | gener1c | w/e |
| 14:25.29 | Nyle | like right before, won't do it again |
| 14:25.34 | antixogh | does freenode allow you to make a new channel? |
| 14:25.38 | Nyle | yes |
| 14:25.40 | liable | yes |
| 14:25.49 | gener1c | yes |
| 14:25.56 | gener1c | lol |
| 14:25.57 | jolt^d4 | Lets all say yes! |
| 14:26.01 | liable | no |
| 14:26.03 | antixogh | yes |
| 14:26.05 | jolt^d4 | Darn |
| 14:26.16 | gener1c | but channles are worthless here if they dont have a certain goal |
| 14:26.18 | gener1c | i presume |
| 14:26.26 | tralala | dpkg, say yes 800 times |
| 14:26.26 | dpkg | yes 800 times |
| 14:26.28 | Nyle | everything has a purpose |
| 14:26.45 | liable | only worthless to those that they dont have worth i guess |
| 14:26.57 | gener1c | but does purpose have everything? |
| 14:26.59 | Nyle | you should read freenode philosophy an channel guidelines and maintainance and other docs |
| 14:26.59 | liable | to |
| 14:27.06 | antixogh | I wanted a debian offtopic, so I don't piss anyone off |
| 14:27.10 | Nyle | and how to register a chan, when to make an unofficial chan like ## instead of # |
| 14:27.11 | Nyle | etc. etc. |
| 14:27.20 | spoown | can somebody help me why I cannot do an ifdown? deseperatly looking for help as ifup is working, and my eth is well working ! interfaces files is correct too ! |
| 14:27.20 | liable | antixogh: #debian-offtopic |
| 14:27.31 | gener1c | confusiouse says "seek not the how but the why" |
| 14:27.42 | Nyle | why doesn't matter |
| 14:27.52 | Nyle | as we will never find the answery to why |
| 14:27.56 | Nyle | but we can find out the how |
| 14:28.02 | Nyle | science can at least do that |
| 14:28.02 | gener1c | ok than read it with a mirror |
| 14:28.17 | Nyle | religion tells you why, science tells you how. i think science is better |
| 14:28.22 | gener1c | yeah i liked watching prisoner |
| 14:28.25 | tralala | !+tell Nyle -about enter |
| 14:28.26 | dpkg | told Nyle about enter. |
| 14:28.30 | liable | spoown: did you give me the ifdown error? |
| 14:29.01 | Nyle | tralala: thank you |
| 14:29.09 | tralala | my pleasure |
| 14:29.11 | Nyle | I didn't know that |
| 14:29.12 | antixogh | "some man see things as they are and ask, why?, I dream of things that never were and ask, whynot?" |
| 14:29.17 | liable | !ignore tralala |
| 14:29.22 | gener1c | i think that ignorance is the ultimate solution |
| 14:29.26 | Nyle | lol |
| 14:29.31 | abrotman | wtf |
| 14:29.36 | liable | hehe, i cant help but doing that very once in a while |
| 14:29.45 | abrotman | spoown: errors? |
| 14:29.46 | Nyle | hilarious |
| 14:29.59 | Nyle | oh I think my heartburn is getting better |
| 14:30.00 | jolt^d4 | Ignorance is bliss, listen to the teachings of The Matrix |
| 14:30.04 | Nyle | wake n bake is the shizboo |
| 14:30.08 | gener1c | dpkg is a female?! |
| 14:30.11 | gener1c | omfg |
| 14:30.19 | Nyle | dpkg what is your sex |
| 14:30.20 | tralala | dpkg, gender? |
| 14:30.21 | abrotman | gener1c: shut up already |
| 14:30.21 | dpkg | Nyle: what are you talking about? |
| 14:30.21 | dpkg | I'm lesbian |
| 14:30.22 | spoown | liable, abrotman, here is the errors : "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" |
| 14:30.24 | Nyle | heh |
| 14:30.26 | themill | dpkg changes often... |
| 14:30.41 | abrotman | spoown: but ifup eth0 works? what does ifconfig -a show? |
| 14:30.45 | gener1c | <jolt^d4> great words utterd by cypher |
| 14:30.47 | Nyle | themill: like one of them african frogs that can spontaneously change sex |
| 14:30.54 | themill | that's the one |
| 14:30.58 | liable | spoown: and its eth0 you are taking down? not eth1? |
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| 14:31.17 | spoown | abrotman, yes ifup eth0 is working ! |
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| 14:31.39 | abrotman | and ifconfig -a? |
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| 14:31.55 | antixogh | http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=171 |
| 14:31.57 | liable | he has two |
| 14:31.57 | antixogh | =] |
| 14:32.10 | spoown | abrotman, i can see the eth0 with an ip address !! |
| 14:32.11 | abrotman | antixogh: spam elsewhere |
| 14:32.25 | abrotman | liable: he has two eth0 ? |
| 14:32.37 | gener1c | i can see the light |
| 14:32.39 | Nyle | i see a big white light at the end of this ssh tunnel |
| 14:32.40 | liable | abrotman: no, eth0 and eth1 |
| 14:32.50 | Nyle | should I go towards it? |
| 14:32.56 | antixogh | the link was to Nyle: |
| 14:32.58 | antixogh | sorry |
| 14:32.59 | gener1c | <Nyle>you win |
| 14:33.05 | Nyle | antixogh: thanks |
| 14:33.08 | abrotman | antixogh: then msg him .. |
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| 14:33.41 | Nyle | "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it." |
| 14:33.49 | spoown | ifconfig -a , has a lot of interface, because I'm triing to use xen ! |
| 14:34.05 | abrotman | spoown: can you put this in a pastebin .. ifconfig -a and ifdown eth0 ? |
| 14:34.14 | liable | ah yes, also xen, which makes life interesting |
| 14:35.02 | dworkin | i want to install debian woody (with bf2.4 kernel) on a 500GB sata harddrive. however, cfdisk during installation sees only cca 140GB of it. what is the reason? if it's the kernel, will a newer version of 2.4.xx see the whole hdd? |
| 14:35.07 | Nyle | antixogh: you know come to think of it, I wake up a lot of mornings with heartburn, I may actually go see a doctor. I didn't even think of it until you showed me the link. thanks man |
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| 14:35.21 | abrotman | why? |
| 14:35.22 | tralala | woody?!? |
| 14:35.34 | dworkin | i really miss the old GNOME 1.4 |
| 14:35.42 | abrotman | dworkin: that's a really bad reason |
| 14:35.48 | happla | dworkin: install old gnome on a new debian then? |
| 14:35.50 | Nyle | eh |
| 14:36.00 | antixogh | I try |
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| 14:36.08 | liable | yup, i got one |
| 14:36.10 | Nyle | keep trying |
| 14:36.13 | dworkin | happla, too much work. |
| 14:36.14 | Nyle | doin good |
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| 14:36.23 | Nyle | im trying to bake |
| 14:36.36 | antixogh | a cake? |
| 14:36.43 | Nyle | usually that helpps me feel better in the tummy |
| 14:36.47 | Nyle | no pottery |
| 14:36.53 | abrotman | dworkin: you can try it with a newer kernel .. IIRC there are 2.6 kernels for woody somewhere |
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| 14:37.02 | antixogh | cool |
| 14:37.02 | abrotman | !woody 2.6 |
| 14:37.03 | dpkg | somebody said bunk 2.6 was You can't run Linux 2.6 in woody without some newer packages. Get them at http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/woody/kernel-26.html or just upgrade to sarge <woody->sarge>. |
| 14:37.10 | abrotman | bah .. gone |
| 14:37.32 | happla | Gentoo quote: First thing I noticed, the mouse, it was on speed! |
| 14:37.33 | Nyle | hey quick question |
| 14:37.35 | tralala | what a pity... one can't run linux 0.99 anymore |
| 14:37.36 | dworkin | abrotman, i remember the sleepless nights trying to switch from 2.4 to 2.5 :) thanks for the link |
| 14:37.44 | abrotman | themill: zero |
| 14:37.46 | Nyle | the toystory or disney people don't mind that debian uses the names from their movies? |
| 14:37.53 | liable | themill: none |
| 14:37.53 | abrotman | dworkin: link is dead |
| 14:37.54 | happla | dworkin: I like window maker =) |
| 14:38.03 | helo | if i want to change the ssh authentication of a remote server to require both a password and public key auth, what should i do to make sure i don't lock myself out? |
| 14:38.05 | dworkin | happla, i am running wmaker |
| 14:38.09 | themill | abrotman: I know that... I wonder if dworkin does |
| 14:38.11 | antixogh | who was lenny? |
| 14:38.13 | happla | dworkin: good =) |
| 14:38.17 | abrotman | !lenny |
| 14:38.17 | dpkg | [lenny] the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. Lenny is the binoculars. ask me about <etch->lenny> |
| 14:38.25 | moshii | happla: nice if you don't use double-byte languages.. |
| 14:38.26 | abrotman | themill: think he cares? |
| 14:38.36 | happla | moshii: like japaneese? |
| 14:38.51 | happla | moshii: or? I use Swedish mainly |
| 14:38.56 | happla | moshii: works nicely |
| 14:39.01 | antixogh | I maen what char was lenny in toystory |
| 14:39.11 | moshii | Quick one here.. Is the a special linux-image for xen domU's or does the standard one work? |
| 14:39.13 | happla | antixogh: the binoculars, it say in the text |
| 14:39.20 | abrotman | antixogh: IT TELLS YOU |
| 14:39.34 | moshii | happla: Yeah, Japanese broke it as I remember, but I think the same applies for korean |
| 14:39.35 | antixogh | oops |
| 14:39.37 | happla | abrotman: but omg, on a 80 col display, its on the SECOND Line! =) |
| 14:39.50 | happla | moshii: ok, I don't know either so - but good heads up |
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| 14:39.53 | abrotman | is it sunday? |
| 14:40.04 | tralala | it is |
| 14:40.05 | SuperSSS | I can't notice any diffrence in this benchmarkinng http://openpaste.org/en/4287/ |
| 14:40.06 | themill | abrotman: yep, all day |
| 14:40.30 | moshii | happla: there a plenty of wmaker look-a-likes that are utf safe thought |
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| 14:40.43 | zoddan | hi again :P |
| 14:40.44 | tralala | a sunday's sunday indeed |
| 14:40.46 | happla | moshii: oki |
| 14:40.53 | antixogh | wednesday here |
| 14:40.57 | happla | moshii: I can't say I like it alot- but better then gnome afaik |
| 14:41.06 | happla | moshii: Im pondering switching to fluxbox for a while |
| 14:41.11 | abrotman | SuperSSS: there are plenty of differences |
| 14:41.12 | zoddan | i have installed gnome and so on, but now i have to choose what i want to display in the manu |
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| 14:41.35 | zoddan | but everytime i click on something that i wwant to display it reserve it |
| 14:41.38 | SuperSSS | abrotman: which one seems like a slower drive to you from those two and how much slower? |
| 14:41.45 | zoddan | so i cant select what i want :( |
| 14:41.48 | zoddan | any ide? |
| 14:41.50 | antixogh | zoddan: the main menu? |
| 14:41.51 | abrotman | SuperSSS: the test apparently didn't finish correctly |
| 14:41.56 | zoddan | antixogh: ye |
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| 14:42.10 | abrotman | SuperSSS: and it wasn't the same test apparently |
| 14:42.12 | antixogh | try update menu |
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| 14:42.22 | zoddan | antixogh: just "update menu" ? |
| 14:42.30 | SuperSSS | abrotman: i was using bonnie++ as a drive benchmarking tool, I don't know if this is a prefered method to do these kind of reliable testings |
| 14:42.34 | abrotman | zoddan: ignore antixogh |
| 14:42.39 | zoddan | abrotman: ok |
| 14:42.40 | themill | antixogh: wtf? |
| 14:42.42 | antixogh | "update-menus" |
| 14:42.47 | happla | SuperSSS: I use iozone benchmark, really nice |
| 14:42.49 | abrotman | still won't help |
| 14:42.57 | happla | jolt^d4: ^5 |
| 14:43.03 | SuperSSS | happla: you simply run it as "iozone" ? |
| 14:43.07 | antixogh | I guess I told you wrong |
| 14:43.09 | jolt^d4 | happla: ^5! |
| 14:43.09 | happla | SuperSSS: no, there is a pdf |
| 14:43.12 | zoddan | abrotman: not working :( |
| 14:43.22 | abrotman | SuperSSS: i just noticed one was 2G and the other 4G .. but the larger drive seems better and random IO(more realistic) .. the other at sequential |
| 14:43.30 | abrotman | zoddan: i didn't tell you to do anything |
| 14:43.34 | zoddan | abrotman: i select "debian" in the "main menu" configurator but i dont get any "debian" in my menu |
| 14:43.35 | happla | SuperSSS: you get _ALOT_ of data - and you have to use a spredsheet to make a diagram to read it - but you can really see where ram-cache dies etc. |
| 14:43.41 | happla | SuperSSS: I used it to benchmark my SAN |
| 14:43.42 | zoddan | antixogh: |
| 14:43.47 | jolt^d4 | happla: I'm about to change motherboard on my server here, don't look forward to it. But thats the machine I hopefully can talk sorcer into hosting for me |
| 14:43.55 | antixogh | yes |
| 14:43.59 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 14:44.05 | happla | jolt^d4: fede |
| 14:44.09 | happla | jolt^d4: fo shizzle |
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| 14:44.17 | happla | jolt^d4: s3 had a 1U case in his basement |
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| 14:44.35 | SuperSSS | abrotman: my guess it that i need to specify bonnie++ to work on both drives with 2GB file then i could get some sort of comparative data out |
| 14:44.36 | happla | jolt^d4: what specs? |
| 14:44.38 | jolt^d4 | happla: To little space for drives |
| 14:44.42 | themill | !nickometer jolt^d4 |
| 14:44.42 | liable | hrm, the channel was sane up untill an hour or so ago |
| 14:44.43 | happla | jolt^d4: true |
| 14:44.44 | dpkg | 'jolt^d4' is 19.000% lame, themill |
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| 14:44.49 | abrotman | SuperSSS: that'd be a good start |
| 14:44.53 | happla | jolt^d4: for all the wa^Wdebianisos |
| 14:44.57 | jolt^d4 | happla: amd 3500+ with 2GB om memory |
| 14:45.02 | liable | which continent woke up since? |
| 14:45.03 | zarac | i'm trying to change the vga mode in grub... vga=799 .. and it says it's invalid mode ... any clues to why it does this? |
| 14:45.06 | jolt^d4 | happla: You better believe it |
| 14:45.09 | happla | jolt^d4: =) |
| 14:45.12 | SuperSSS | SuperSSS: becouse i really dont know how to calculate one is 2GB and the other 4GB |
| 14:45.12 | tralala | liable, aol |
| 14:45.23 | jolt^d4 | themill: I know, but the regular "jolt" was of course taken |
| 14:45.28 | jolt^d4 | !nickometer jolt |
| 14:45.29 | abrotman | SuperSSS: read the man page ? |
| 14:45.30 | dpkg | 'jolt' is 0.000% lame, jolt^d4 |
| 14:45.34 | liable | tralala: you win |
| 14:45.36 | antixogh | zoddan: I had the same issuie night and I ran "update-menus" in the terminal |
| 14:45.40 | zarac | my kernel line is /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-486 root=/dev/hdc1 ro vga=799 |
| 14:45.43 | happla | !nickometer happla |
| 14:45.44 | dpkg | 'happla' is 0.000% lame, happla |
| 14:45.47 | happla | alright! |
| 14:45.50 | abrotman | stop with the stupid bot |
| 14:45.52 | zarac | you meant me antixogh? =D |
| 14:46.03 | abrotman | zarac: no |
| 14:46.11 | happla | themill: The Mill as in the posthouse in london? |
| 14:46.12 | zarac | oh :) |
| 14:46.23 | themill | happla: no. |
| 14:46.28 | tralala | 5 ignores later everything is back to normal |
| 14:46.35 | abrotman | zarac: i didn't think 799 was valid either |
| 14:46.44 | abrotman | i thought they were octal modes |
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| 14:46.46 | happla | themill: darn =) |
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| 14:47.53 | happla | themill: good luck with the Signal to noise-ratio there |
| 14:48.26 | themill | night liable |
| 14:48.31 | jolt^d4 | zarac: I'm just guessing here, but does the card support the line you are trying to use? |
| 14:49.20 | tralala | liable, don't pretend - it isn't even an evening in your tz |
| 14:49.33 | abrotman | happla: i thiunk you were part of the filter |
| 14:49.44 | happla | abrotman: Probably |
| 14:49.49 | liable | tralala: its 1149pm |
| 14:50.14 | happla | abrotman: I was happy for a couple of seconds that someone from The Mill ran debian =) |
| 14:50.21 | tralala | uhm... the wrong nick aparently |
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| 14:50.30 | tralala | liable, good night then |
| 14:50.30 | happla | abrotman: would have might giving me an edge to the fedora-crap they want me to run |
| 14:50.54 | abrotman | antixogh: DO NOT MSG ME |
| 14:50.55 | liable | heh, night #debian |
| 14:50.57 | abrotman | zarac: http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes |
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| 14:51.53 | spoown | abrotman, I did an : ifconfig eth0 down , and then reboot, and finally did see the peth0 of xen, and now ifdown is working !! I don't really understand what happended but it works, I have probably miss a step !! |
| 14:52.05 | abrotman | spoown: okay then! :) |
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| 14:52.51 | abrotman | zoddan: figure it out? |
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| 14:53.26 | Lunar_Lamp | http://pastebin.ca/813417 <== according to dmesg, my wireless usb card is being loaded as eth1. However, "ifup eth1" tells me "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1". Can anyone point me in the right direction please? |
| 14:53.55 | antixogh | abrotman: what was "(08:42:41 AM) abrotman: zoddan: ignore antixogh" about? |
| 14:54.12 | abrotman | antixogh: because |
| 14:54.37 | tralala | Lunar_Lamp, man interfaces |
| 14:55.03 | elmo40 | Lunar_Lamp: use iwconfig |
| 14:55.24 | abrotman | he'll likely need both |
| 14:55.35 | tralala | nope, only interfaces |
| 14:55.47 | antixogh | abrotman: because I was trying to help and you just wanted to ingore zoddan for 12 minutes? |
| 14:55.53 | abrotman | antixogh: you weren't |
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| 14:56.03 | tralala | wireless-tools have to be installed but no need to use them manually |
| 14:56.19 | Nyle | hm |
| 14:56.27 | antixogh | abrotman: because I typod a command? |
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| 14:56.39 | abrotman | uh no |
| 14:56.50 | Lunar_Lamp | tralala, thankyou - I knew it would be something simple that I was forgetting. |
| 14:57.06 | antixogh | abrotman: then care to explain? |
| 14:57.48 | tralala | Lunar_Lamp, you're welcome |
| 14:58.03 | Lunar_Lamp | (It still doesn't discover any DHCP leases, but I'll keep working on it) |
| 14:58.20 | tralala | you need the set up the wireless bits |
| 14:58.27 | tralala | to* |
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| 14:59.30 | Lunar_Lamp | so "iface eth1 inet dhcp" is insufficient? |
| 14:59.45 | tralala | for wireless? yes |
| 15:00.07 | abrotman | you might want an auto line if you want it to magically come up on boot |
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| 15:00.13 | themill | Lunar_Lamp: you probably need to give a password for your access point and select which wireless access point you want to use. |
| 15:00.42 | Lunar_Lamp | Not at the moment - I've turned off security on my network to make life easier whilst setting t up |
| 15:01.03 | tralala | you still want to set up the essid |
| 15:01.07 | themill | Lunar_Lamp: you'll still need to tell it which wireless network to use. |
| 15:01.16 | Lunar_Lamp | ok, that makes obvious sense :-( |
| 15:01.22 | themill | Does the zd1211rw driver play nicely with networkmanager? |
| 15:01.42 | tralala | networkmanager doesn't play nice with anything |
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| 15:02.11 | themill | tralala: yes it does... it plays very nicely with some ralink and all the intel ones I've dealt with. |
| 15:02.38 | cahoot | themill: IME yes |
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| 15:02.50 | themill | cahoot: excellent. |
| 15:03.22 | cahoot | themill: but even nicer with plain wpa_supplicant ;) |
| 15:03.32 | tralala | themill, if you define nicely as "fire dhcp anytime you sniff a network", then I guess it does |
| 15:03.57 | themill | tralala: which is what you want to do with a wireless network 99.9% of the time. |
| 15:04.16 | tralala | Lunar_Lamp, btw you might want to set up wpa_supplicant - makes life easier even if you don't use wpa |
| 15:04.26 | Lunar_Lamp | ok |
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| 15:04.56 | Erik1 | what is the name of the standard debian zip util ? |
| 15:05.03 | themill | Lunar_Lamp: you can either set your network up using networkmanager or using the command line tools. Using networkmanager is incredibly difficult to debug if it doesn't work first time; command line tools are hard work to do every time if you're roaming but are easier to understand what's working and not working. |
| 15:05.33 | themill | !tell Erik1 about zip |
| 15:05.37 | tralala | Erik1, "zip" |
| 15:05.38 | antixogh | erik1: in X? |
| 15:05.39 | themill | !tell Erik1 about unzip |
| 15:05.44 | Erik1 | gnome |
| 15:05.49 | shamrock | does "beagle" install a launch icon anywhere? Cant find anything. |
| 15:05.50 | Lunar_Lamp | themill, well, I won't be roaming, and I don't have a GUI here for this box. It's an NSLU2 that I'm bunging a wireless card onto themill. |
| 15:05.54 | Erik1 | just zip then ? |
| 15:06.20 | abrotman | zip and unzip .. gnome has file-roller |
| 15:06.33 | antixogh | archive manager is what I use and I think it is the default |
| 15:06.49 | Erik1 | hm... why didn't they come up with something fancier than "zip" ;-) thnx |
| 15:07.06 | themill | Lunar_Lamp: well in that case, go with the text based setup. Do it at the command line to get it working to start with and then put it into your /etc/network/interfaces later. |
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| 15:08.17 | abrotman | Erik1: you mean like .. winzip? :) |
| 15:09.08 | elmo40 | Erik1: you want GUI? or console? There are many GUI fronts that can handle more then zip. |
| 15:09.51 | Erik1 | need to make an eclipse builder... |
| 15:10.15 | Erik1 | zo I need to put some files into a zip file... |
| 15:10.42 | Erik1 | called an "ant builder" |
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| 15:10.48 | Hosting | hola |
| 15:10.51 | spoown | ls |
| 15:10.56 | spoown | sorry |
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| 15:11.07 | Hosting | alguien habla español? |
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| 15:11.19 | Erik1 | Hosting: un poco |
| 15:11.24 | stew | !es |
| 15:11.24 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:11.42 | Hosting | ya estoy en ese canal tambien XD |
| 15:12.45 | dewey | hmmm is openarena available in debian to install? |
| 15:12.57 | Hosting | paso por aki, solo para invitar a maximo 2 personas a tener hosting gratis, si a nadie le interesa no ahi problema |
| 15:13.12 | abrotman | Hosting: english please |
| 15:13.14 | stew | Hosting: english only in here, if you want to speak spanish, /join #debian-es |
| 15:13.32 | stew | dewey: /msg dpkg search |
| 15:14.05 | Hosting | Erik1 te interesa? |
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| 15:15.17 | Erik1 | Hosting: no me interesa... |
| 15:15.29 | Hosting | ok |
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| 15:15.32 | stew | Erik1: english only in here, if you want to speak spanash, do it in #debian-es |
| 15:15.45 | Erik1 | stew: I don't... |
| 15:15.54 | Hosting | ya hasta eestan regañandote Erik1 XD |
| 15:15.55 | Erik1 | I want to work on my project.:-) |
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| 15:16.39 | stew | Hosting: you've been silenced for 10 minutes. in the future, please stick to english |
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| 15:17.20 | mosty | how can i figure out why apt-get doesn't follow my pinning preferences? |
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| 15:17.44 | stew | mosty: show us the output of "apt-cahce policy packagename" for the package in question, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 15:18.51 | mosty | stew, ahh, didn't know i could specify a package name there, that is very useful |
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| 15:19.21 | fm_ | has mark shuttleworth ever been a debian mainttainer? |
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| 15:19.43 | abrotman | fm_: wikipedia ? |
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| 15:20.35 | stew | fm_: he is now |
| 15:20.35 | dewey | ok I found openarena in lenny or sid unstable |
| 15:21.10 | abrotman | fm_: http://db.debian.org/ |
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| 15:21.30 | abrotman | i think they have to be current to be in there though |
| 15:22.46 | fm_ | "In the 1990s, Shuttleworth participated as a developer of Debian, a Linux distribution. " abrotman i need to know the package he maintained ... |
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| 15:24.32 | fm_ | abrotman: found it "I'm a DD, first maintainer of Apache in 1996 " https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth |
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| 15:29.01 | kshaw|work | will someone please tell me the difference between the current stable release of Debian and the 4.1.1 prerelease. |
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| 15:29.47 | themill | kshaw|work: what 4.1.1 prerelease? do you mean testing/lenny? |
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| 15:30.34 | kshaw|work | I'm not sure, I need to run a test using 4.1.1 and Im unsure what that means. Could it be an update from 4.0? |
| 15:31.04 | Ronin | kshaw|work: what is telling you 4.1.1 |
| 15:31.06 | kshaw|work | ah |
| 15:31.10 | themill | kshaw|work: what are you really trying to do... |
| 15:31.17 | stew | fm_: according to /usr/share/doc/apache/changelog.Debian.gz he wasn't maintaining apache in debian |
| 15:31.17 | kshaw|work | i think it is a gcc prerelease |
| 15:31.27 | kshaw|work | just the compiler |
| 15:31.41 | themill | !info gcc etch |
| 15:31.44 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.1.1-15 (etch), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
| 15:32.11 | themill | kshaw|work: gcc 4.1.1 is indeed in etch. aptitude install build-essential |
| 15:32.39 | mosty | stew, http://pastebin.ca/813452 - why doesn't it use 192.168.10.252 to download the package? |
| 15:33.37 | wally | hi, I've got a slight issue with DNS reverse, if I try to nslookup foo it gives me dns server ip followed by foo hostname and ip foo address, however if I try to do host 10.0.0.1 I'm getting an error saying that 10.0.0.1 doesn't exist. Do I need bind to get that working? |
| 15:33.44 | kshaw|work | okay thanks! |
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| 15:34.03 | stew | mosty: because .253 is listed first |
| 15:34.17 | stew | mosty: (and they both have the same versino of the package anyway) |
| 15:34.24 | wally | on the other hand if I have foo 10.0.0.1 in my /etc/hosts both nslokup and host are working fine |
| 15:34.31 | mosty | stew: why is .253 listed first? .252 is pinned at 999 |
| 15:34.47 | stew | mosty: because it is listed first in your sources.list |
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| 15:35.41 | stew | mosty: the pinning doesn't matter in this case becuase both repositories have the same version available |
| 15:35.53 | mosty | stew, i put .252 as the first source in sources.list, apt-get update, same result. it tries to download from .253 |
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| 15:36.39 | mosty | stew, do i need to bump the version of the package at .252 for it to work? |
| 15:37.57 | stew | mosty: why do you care which repository it downloads from? |
| 15:38.36 | diablo_vortex | hi guys need ur help please,, I have saved all my important mails into a subfolder in LOcal folders in kmail client,, now if i want that folder to be exported or to be archivable from mozilla thunderbird,, how can i do that |
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| 15:39.15 | antixogh | abrotman: I sent you an email to read at your leisure |
| 15:39.23 | mosty | stew, because they're different packages of the same version of software. i want my modified version to be chosen in preference |
| 15:39.52 | stew | mosty: if you modified the package then they should certainly have different versions |
| 15:40.14 | abrotman | antixogh: not likely |
| 15:40.31 | mosty | stew, i thought changing the release would be enough |
| 15:40.35 | stew | mosty: make yours something like 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5+somechange |
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| 15:40.44 | abrotman | antixogh: and i'd appreciate it if you'd just leave me alone |
| 15:40.58 | _Sam-- | abrot: i will do just that myself, but thakn you for your help yesterday. |
| 15:41.06 | abrotman | _Sam--: ? |
| 15:41.08 | Ronin | abrotman: ignore and spam filters are wonderful as you well know |
| 15:41.25 | _Sam-- | (leave you alone)...you helped me yesterday with my rescue / reinstall woes. |
| 15:41.28 | abrotman | Ronin: oh yeah .. i'll report his host as spam .. that's a great idea :) |
| 15:41.39 | abrotman | _Sam--: did it end up working? |
| 15:41.41 | themill | antixogh: you're starting to sound like a stalker. Please stay on-topic and stay within the channel. |
| 15:41.52 | Azar | I would not dare to send emails to abrotman.. |
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| 15:41.59 | _Sam-- | i didnt have to do the reinstall. i did an upgrade from a chroot which worked pretty well. i had to contract dondelelcare for some finishing details. |
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| 15:42.09 | abrotman | _Sam--: ah ok |
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| 15:42.33 | _Sam-- | that guy is good. |
| 15:42.38 | abrotman | heh .. yes |
| 15:42.58 | _Sam-- | dondelelcaro: if you are here, thank you :) |
| 15:43.10 | abrotman | antixogh: marked as spam .. ahve a nice day |
| 15:44.24 | antixogh | abrotman: thank you, you have an nice day as well |
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| 15:45.52 | The_Ultimate_Sam | simple question what is port 58555 used for? |
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| 15:46.07 | SamuraiDio | what would be the diference of installing aan amd64 system, or an i386 system with just an amd64 kernel? |
| 15:46.18 | wols_ | The_Ultimate_Sam: how should we know? |
| 15:46.25 | hoxu | The_Ultimate_Sam, http://www.google.com/search?q=port%2058555 |
| 15:46.31 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i figured it would have a set usage |
| 15:46.32 | eth01 | don't use an amd kernel, if you use intel :/ |
| 15:46.36 | antixogh | themill: i'm not a stalker, if someone thinks I am wrong I just like them to explain themselves |
| 15:46.44 | The_Ultimate_Sam | i tried google to little avail |
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| 15:47.03 | hoxu | The_Ultimate_Sam, /etc/services, it's not there |
| 15:47.20 | wols_ | The_Ultimate_Sam: context |
| 15:47.21 | Azar | The_Ultimate_Sam: wrong: type "ports" in google and you will get several sites that list the ports and the usage |
| 15:47.25 | abrotman | SamuraiDio: the whole system would be 64bit vs 64bit kernel with 32bit userland |
| 15:47.34 | The_Ultimate_Sam | but my netstat shows a time_wait on that at the same time my diskless system is trying to get a response from my system over nfs |
| 15:47.44 | abrotman | The_Ultimate_Sam: likely portmap/nfs |
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| 15:48.46 | themill | antixogh: as per /topic: /msg bots NOT people ... the same applies to looking up people's email addresses and trying to contact them outside of #debian. If people don't invite you to contact them, please respect their privacy and don't contact them outside of #debian. If people started emailing our regulars their questions, we'd all be snowed under. |
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| 15:50.06 | SamuraiDio | abrotman, but what would be the diference about performance and etc? |
| 15:50.18 | abrotman | SamuraiDio: is it for a desktop or server? |
| 15:50.21 | rosjahh | Can somebody recommend me a simple way to insert about 30 pictures in a particular folder into a text document in one go ? |
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| 15:51.00 | dto | hello |
| 15:51.02 | abrotman | rosjahh: dd if=/dev/random of=/path/to/file count=30 |
| 15:51.12 | abrotman | oh .. pictures .. ignore |
| 15:51.19 | abrotman | damn me |
| 15:52.04 | diablo_vortex | hi guys need ur help please,, I have saved all my important mails into a subfolder in LOcal folders in kmail client,, now if i want that folder to be exported or to be archivable from mozilla thunderbird,, how can i do that |
| 15:52.09 | cast | rosjahh: you mean insert the names of? |
| 15:52.12 | rosjahh | Hehe, not just random noise. I was trying to do it with openoffice. But it only allows to select one picture at a time. And I also can't find a suitable macro. |
| 15:52.25 | cast | oh. |
| 15:52.26 | abrotman | rosjahh: ls *.jpg > filelist.txt ? |
| 15:52.46 | hoxu | abrotman :) |
| 15:52.49 | rosjahh | cast, No, I want to insert the pictures themselves. |
| 15:52.51 | antixogh | themills: I understand your point, however if you want your privacy don't post your email address and don't use your real name, besides I didn't ask a question. |
| 15:52.53 | SpeedyG | wouldnt that only add the filenames? :) |
| 15:52.54 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 15:52.58 | cast | is your goal to make what...a pdf of images? |
| 15:53.07 | abrotman | antixogh: and i had asked you to drop it .. you persisted |
| 15:53.17 | abrotman | hoxu: i'm fine! |
| 15:53.23 | hoxu | !truth about abrotman |
| 15:53.23 | dpkg | abrotman is a liar! |
| 15:53.48 | antixogh | abrotman: you were in the wrong not me |
| 15:54.02 | stew | antixogh: abrotman: please take this discussion elsewhere. it is quite useless in here |
| 15:54.10 | rosjahh | cast, well rather something I can still edit. rtf or odt would be perfect. It is for the appendices of a scientific report. |
| 15:54.41 | cast | ok, i had the same problem but i use latex so its not applicable |
| 15:54.56 | SamuraiDio | abrotman, a laptop, to use as desktop, multomedia and web development |
| 15:55.01 | SamuraiDio | multimedia* |
| 15:55.27 | rosjahh | These pictures, or graphs actually have changed a couple of times now. I begin to feel a bit stupid, to re-insert them all again by hand .... |
| 15:55.37 | abrotman | SamuraiDio: you'd probably be better off with a 32bit userland with either 32 or 64bit kernel |
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| 15:56.00 | webczat | hi all! |
| 15:56.24 | antixogh | howdy |
| 15:56.33 | zarac | how do i turn on to not use aiglx? i don't find anything about it in the xorg.conf |
| 15:56.40 | GhostlyDeath | What utilities will allow me to place my own audio in recorded vidoe? |
| 15:57.13 | SamuraiDio | abrotman, think i cant easily change the userland without doing a fresh isntall.. right? |
| 15:57.22 | abrotman | you cannot .. correct |
| 15:57.40 | SpeedyG | rosjahh: couldnt you just record a macro using OO, and then rewrite it to loop through a specific directory? |
| 15:57.54 | mick_home | hi everyone - how can i test to see if my nfs share is working? if i do: nfs://hostname didn't work in konqueror - it said no authentication supported - :-/ |
| 15:58.21 | stew | rosjahh: how are you inserting them? base64 encoded? where? all in one place? or scattered around? |
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| 15:58.45 | abrotman | zarac: isn't there an X module that gets loaded? |
| 15:58.45 | rosjahh | SpeedyG, probably yes. But I'm not at all familiar with openoffice macros. |
| 15:58.47 | diablo_vortex | hi guys need ur help please,, I have saved all my important mails into a subfolder in LOcal folders in kmail client,, now if i want that folder to be exported or to be archivable from mozilla thunderbird,, how can i do that,,nobody is answring my question please |
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| 15:58.52 | SamuraiDio | abrotman, but i cant keep my home folder, right? |
| 15:58.58 | SamuraiDio | can* |
| 15:59.11 | SpeedyG | rosjahh: hm, same here :( |
| 15:59.15 | abrotman | if it's on a seperate partition and you don't format it .. yes |
| 15:59.21 | SpeedyG | i've done it a few years ago on ms-office |
| 15:59.25 | SpeedyG | but never on oo |
| 15:59.28 | rosjahh | stew, they are inserted sequentially. I only add captions after that. |
| 15:59.58 | stew | rosjahh: wait, what kind of document is this? |
| 16:00.10 | stew | rosjahh: plan text? or is it an openoffice document or what? |
| 16:00.36 | SpeedyG | stew: didnt matter, as long as it worked ;) |
| 16:00.48 | stew | "worked"? |
| 16:01.01 | SpeedyG | yeah, as long as he's able to import the images into a document |
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| 16:01.15 | SamuraiDio | abrotman, can i make an aptitude log to install, after reinstall Debian, the very same packages i had on amd64? |
| 16:01.25 | abrotman | !debian clone |
| 16:01.25 | dpkg | One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want. Run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". you may want to ask me about <aptitude clone> |
| 16:01.27 | SpeedyG | stew: 1654.11 < rosjahh> cast, well rather something I can still edit. rtf or odt would be perfect. It is for the appendices of a scientific report. |
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| 16:01.49 | themill | rosjahh: write a script that writes a tex file and then compile it... edit the latex along the way if you want. |
| 16:01.55 | abrotman | SamuraiDio: /msg dpkg aptitude clone (if you prefer to use aptitude) |
| 16:01.55 | rosjahh | stew, yes openoffice. But indeed, if it's initially some other format. That would be ok, as long as I can import it into OO. |
| 16:01.57 | zarac | abrotman might be.. i'm not good with this =D where do i see what X modules are loaded` |
| 16:01.59 | zarac | ?* |
| 16:02.07 | abrotman | zarac: in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 16:02.12 | zarac | oh =D |
| 16:02.16 | zarac | well i don't see anything there for aiglx |
| 16:02.22 | abrotman | it might not be called that .. |
| 16:02.24 | zarac | so i'm confused =D |
| 16:02.30 | zarac | nothing called dri either |
| 16:02.38 | abrotman | you don't have a DRI section at the bottom ? |
| 16:02.48 | zarac | kbd? |
| 16:02.48 | rosjahh | Ah, latex. Yes that could be helpful. Now it shows why some people like to create documents in code .... |
| 16:02.53 | zarac | nope |
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| 16:03.59 | tuseroni | ok, so supposing its the nfs going into the time_wait state, which is why the system is hanging, what can i do about it (also note, it already established itself earlier, and there is a sepperate established nfs connection, the one thats getting time_wait is only identified by port) |
| 16:04.18 | SamuraiDio | abrotman, tnx |
| 16:04.19 | tuseroni | i have the client in my /etc/exports |
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| 16:05.13 | themill | rosjahh: ugly as sin and doesn't always work very well, but it might give you some ideas: http://rafb.net/p/NX22pL89.html |
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| 16:06.33 | rosjahh | themill, thanks. I'm having a look. |
| 16:07.42 | zarac | abrotman: http://milo.compmode.se/xorg.conf there's my xorg.conf .. if you don't mind having a look =D |
| 16:07.45 | zarac | or someone else =D |
| 16:09.34 | wols_ | zarac: aiglx is not available with vesa anyways |
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| 16:09.53 | wols_ | zarac: so you aren't using aiglx |
| 16:09.55 | SamuraiDio | whts the proccess that detects the hard discs (ide/sata) ? |
| 16:09.56 | zarac | yeah.. was gonna try compiz.. but i don't even know what graphics card i have =D |
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| 16:10.06 | wols_ | zarac: what does lspci say? |
| 16:10.09 | zarac | well wols_ .. it gives me an error |
| 16:10.17 | wols_ | and one thing is sure: vesa driver can't use compiz |
| 16:10.21 | tuseroni | ok the time_wait was probably port map, i changed the hosts.allow to put the client specificall (rather than with the wildcard) and now its not doing that |
| 16:10.23 | zarac | (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable |
| 16:10.27 | wols_ | lspci gives you an error? this I don't believe |
| 16:10.43 | tuseroni | but its still giving me "nfs: server 192.168.1.202 not responding, still trying" |
| 16:10.45 | zarac | no =D |
| 16:10.49 | zarac | when i run 'startx' |
| 16:10.49 | zarac | sorry |
| 16:11.05 | wols_ | zarac: what videocard? |
| 16:11.07 | zarac | appearently i dn't have lspci =D |
| 16:11.11 | zarac | 2 sek |
| 16:11.13 | zarac | c |
| 16:11.14 | zarac | sec* |
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| 16:11.17 | wols_ | !intallit |
| 16:11.19 | wols_ | !installit |
| 16:11.20 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get, or aptitude |
| 16:11.48 | zarac | know what package it's part of? |
| 16:11.54 | hoxu | !tell zarac about enter |
| 16:12.05 | wols_ | zarac: pci-utils |
| 16:12.19 | zarac | hoxu :) |
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| 16:12.31 | zarac | thanks |
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| 16:12.45 | wols_ | zarac: he is right, so heed dpkg's factoid |
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| 16:13.40 | zarac | hmm now you confused me :) ... and can't find the package p |
| 16:13.41 | zarac | llös |
| 16:13.51 | zarac | oops =/ damn laptop.. enter key is located badly =D |
| 16:14.16 | zarac | VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3230 (rev 11) |
| 16:14.25 | endschranz | hi, can some help me with jabber install? http://pastebin.com/me2876b0 im always getting an error when i try to start the server |
| 16:14.27 | zarac | think it's some intel gpu |
| 16:14.36 | zarac | and btw.. the package was called pciutils |
| 16:14.44 | wols_ | zarac: update-pciids |
| 16:14.50 | tuseroni | any way to make alt+sysRQ+T display a screen at a time? |
| 16:14.53 | wols_ | then run it again |
| 16:15.07 | zarac | neat :) |
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| 16:17.11 | zarac | Inc. K8M890 [Chrome9] Intgrated Video |
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| 16:17.25 | zarac | i googled on that earlier today... didn't make me much smarter though |
| 16:17.38 | konni_ | Hi, i have a some what new debian server, and im trying to run oidentd, but it wont run, what is the problem?? |
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| 16:18.00 | zarac | i figured maybe i can't run compiz so i'm trying blackbox instead.. |
| 16:18.11 | Ronin | konni_: errors? messages? |
| 16:18.12 | hoxu | konni_, we don't know if you don't tell us |
| 16:18.16 | zarac | well it's my plan anyways ;) |
| 16:18.19 | konni_ | no error messages |
| 16:18.36 | hoxu | konni_, no error messages, when you try to do what? |
| 16:18.46 | rahul | konni_: so you're asking us to fix something when you have zero information about what's wrong? |
| 16:18.48 | hoxu | konni_, and where did you check? /var/log? |
| 16:18.49 | konni_ | vefsyn-02:~/oidentd_2.0.8.orig/oidentd-2.0.8# /etc/init.d/oidentd start |
| 16:18.50 | konni_ | Starting ident daemon: oidentd. |
| 16:19.05 | rahul | konni_: so you're not using debian's oidentd? |
| 16:19.24 | konni_ | i did apt-get install oidentd |
| 16:19.39 | rahul | konni_: and what are you doing sitting in oidentd source? |
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| 16:20.22 | konni_ | rahul, didnt understand that , sitting on the source? |
| 16:20.24 | hoxu | rahul, maybe he figured there's a package afterwards |
| 16:20.33 | konni_ | the package is installed and ready to go |
| 16:20.35 | rahul | konni_: you're in the source |
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| 16:20.44 | rahul | konni_: did you install anything from the source? |
| 16:20.48 | konni_ | yes |
| 16:20.53 | eth01 | use nidentd, instead. |
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| 16:21.02 | wols_ | zarac: the driver you need is "via", already comes with debian. your drxx |
| 16:21.06 | hoxu | eth01, ... |
| 16:21.07 | wols_ | !drxx zarac |
| 16:21.07 | dpkg | zarac: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 16:21.10 | rahul | konni_: if you trampled over debian's oidentd package, we don't know what you broke |
| 16:21.10 | netgear | anyone know if gaim works with msn, afaics some say yes some say no |
| 16:21.19 | elmo40 | netgear: yes |
| 16:21.21 | elmo40 | well, no |
| 16:21.23 | elmo40 | gaim doesnt, anymore |
| 16:21.26 | elmo40 | pidgin does |
| 16:21.30 | hoxu | !enter |
| 16:21.30 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 16:21.33 | konni_ | im not ever sure i broke anything. |
| 16:21.38 | rahul | konni_: reinstall it from the debian package and see if that fixes it. |
| 16:21.44 | konni_ | rahul, will do |
| 16:21.51 | zarac | sweet .. thanks wols_ |
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| 16:22.04 | rahul | you're never sure you broke something? |
| 16:22.05 | netgear | /close |
| 16:22.07 | zarac | how did you figure out via is the one i need btw? |
| 16:22.08 | rahul | sounds like self-denial to me |
| 16:22.09 | elmo40 | hoxu: sorry, but they are two pairs of statements ;) |
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| 16:23.01 | wols_ | zarac: cause you told me what videocard its |
| 16:23.02 | hoxu | !forgive elmo40 |
| 16:23.02 | dpkg | Well, elmo40 boy, I guess I could do that. But I believe forgiving is God's job, I'm just arranging the meeting. *blows elmo40 head apart with .44 magnum* |
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| 16:23.24 | SamuraiDio | my kernel does not create /dev/sda1 (root) on boot. grub loads from the same hd and, sometimes, the system works fine, but in most of'em i fall into busybox and have only /dev/hda (cdrom). i changed the /dev/name by UUID= at grub and fstab, i place some sata (scsi_mod,sd_mod,libata,sata_nv,ahci,ata_piix) modules at /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. none of it worked. can someone help me? |
| 16:23.29 | elmo40 | i needed that :( |
| 16:23.32 | hoxu | konni_, how did you figure it "does not work" anyway, if you just ran start, got no errors and saw no errors anywhere? |
| 16:23.52 | wols_ | eth01: fuck off and read the rules |
| 16:24.02 | konni_ | hoxu runing a bnc and it wont get no ident , so no ident server running. |
| 16:24.13 | elmo40 | wols_: is it Sunday again? |
| 16:24.22 | hoxu | konni_, did you check netstat -nlpt to make sure it's not listening? |
| 16:24.22 | Ronin | elmo40: when is it not? |
| 16:24.25 | rahul | konni_: did you _configure_ it to give the ident you want? |
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| 16:24.29 | elmo40 | :-\ |
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| 16:24.50 | rahul | or do you expect it to read your mind and do what other people don't want it to do? |
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| 16:24.52 | konni_ | hoxu yes , i checked port :113 not being used |
| 16:25.02 | konni_ | rahul: yes psybnc was configured |
| 16:25.08 | rahul | . . . |
| 16:25.16 | Azar | misterrr rahul |
| 16:25.21 | rahul | ok, this is hopeless. |
| 16:25.25 | rahul | hello Azar |
| 16:25.38 | rahul | beat konni_ with a cluebat for me, please |
| 16:25.57 | wols_ | !clue konni_ |
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| 16:26.31 | netgear | any other good clients that support gtalk and msn and yahoo? other than pidgin and gaim? |
| 16:26.38 | rahul | I configured something other than what's broken... why is the thing that I didn't configure doing something other than I want it to do???????????? |
| 16:27.06 | elmo40 | !msn |
| 16:27.07 | dpkg | well, msn is an abreviation for Microsoft Network. A nasty place where either the incredibaly stupid, or incredibably rich like. apparently now being used to mean just the instant messenger service |
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| 16:27.27 | zarac | thanks for the help wols_ (and others) .. off work an hour ago.. back tomorrow probably =D pez |
| 16:27.32 | abrotman | netgear: quite a few .. but those are probably the most used |
| 16:28.08 | elmo40 | netgear: kopete? ayttm maybe? centerim? |
| 16:28.33 | netgear | let me see |
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| 16:29.02 | netgear | abrotman: i still cant make sense of my repository anyone you know that maintains a repository? |
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| 16:29.56 | abrotman | netgear: huh ? |
| 16:30.00 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 16:30.35 | netgear | i can try and do it like i understand it and have to redo all my successes or ask someone that knows |
| 16:30.51 | abrotman | netgear: maybe ask the debian-user mailing list if you don't get a good answer here |
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| 16:31.39 | netgear | all i get is read apt-source how-to :) |
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| 16:31.57 | netgear | any debian developers here? |
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| 16:32.31 | konni_ | okay guys, maybe the cluebat worked, but i found an error |
| 16:32.33 | konni_ | Dec 12 16:04:09 vefsyn-02 oidentd[3691]: [oidentd_inet_util.c:79:setup_bind] DEBUG: bind: Address already in use |
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| 16:33.46 | humpty | hi |
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| 16:34.23 | humpty | i am having a strange problem. |
| 16:34.28 | humpty | anybody is there to help me |
| 16:34.32 | humpty | ?? |
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| 16:34.41 | hoxu | konni_, the daemon is prolly already running -_- |
| 16:34.57 | humpty | hi |
| 16:35.01 | Ronin | !tell humpty about ask |
| 16:35.05 | konni_ | but still not showing up on netstat or as a running process |
| 16:35.15 | rosjahh | Ok guys, for those just helping me out with inserting pictures into a text document. I found that html is the solution. Can easily be written with a bit of bash. Then openoffice can open it and export it to odt. It even retains the images as links. |
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| 16:36.08 | netgear | abrotman: afaik debian dvd's consists mainly of .deb and packages.gz and lists.gz or something |
| 16:36.09 | endschranz | does anyone know howto get jabber install |
| 16:36.14 | hoxu | rosjahh, oh yes, sorry for not telling you that... I've used html->OO for inserting syntax-colored code into documents, it's quite nifty :) |
| 16:36.32 | netgear | what will happen if i copy all .deb from my 4 dvd's to /var/cache/apt? |
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| 16:37.04 | rosjahh | hoxu, well thanks for not telling. It always feel better to "invent" something yourself ;-) |
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| 16:37.16 | Ronin | endschranz: aptitude install doesnt work? |
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| 16:37.39 | thomas__ | Hi, how does one submit a package for being entered into the repo's? |
| 16:37.42 | hoxu | rosjahh, heh well, never used it for inserting images... thanks for the info, now I know it works :) |
| 16:38.11 | endschranz | ronin: the init script fails to start |
| 16:38.56 | Ronin | endschranz: of jabber? |
| 16:38.58 | themill | !tell thomas__ about nmg |
| 16:39.06 | endschranz | ronion: http://pastebin.com/me2876b0 |
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| 16:39.31 | thomas__ | thanks themill |
| 16:39.32 | themill | thomas__: also wander over to #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org and look at mentors.debian.net |
| 16:39.39 | Ronin | endschranz: jabber is installed all ready |
| 16:40.14 | endschranz | ronin: i know, but, a manual start also dont work |
| 16:40.29 | Ronin | endschranz: errors from a manual install? |
| 16:40.45 | Ronin | manual start i mean |
| 16:40.56 | endschranz | ronin: yes, it always the same error |
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| 16:41.14 | Ronin | no i mean what is the error from a manual start from a terminal |
| 16:41.37 | endschranz | ronin: http://pastebin.com/me2876b0 |
| 16:42.08 | Ronin | endschranz: not install, start jabber |
| 16:43.00 | humpty | hi |
| 16:43.04 | konni_ | Dec 12 16:42:26 vefsyn-02 oidentd[11862]: Fatal: Unable to setup listening socket, this means that the port is closed does it not? |
| 16:43.30 | humpty | hi |
| 16:43.30 | Nostahl | what do i install to get glxinfo working |
| 16:43.34 | hoxu | konni_, are you using the debian package now? |
| 16:43.36 | Nostahl | it tells me command not found |
| 16:43.38 | konni_ | hoxu yes |
| 16:43.46 | Ronin | means something is all ready listening on that konni_ |
| 16:44.06 | konni_ | ronin, still netstat does not show it |
| 16:44.21 | hoxu | or permissions denied to listen for low port? |
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| 16:44.42 | konni_ | might be, checking that out now. |
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| 16:45.28 | endschranz | ronin: so it's the same error |
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| 16:45.53 | Ronin | endschranz: so you open a term and typed jabber and you get teh same error? |
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| 16:48.32 | endschranz | ronin: no then i get no error |
| 16:48.44 | Ronin | so it does run then presumably |
| 16:49.17 | RichiH | exit $confmodule->exitcode if $confmodule->exitcode > 0; is so immensely helpful when you 1 while ($confmodule->communicate); before it |
| 16:49.31 | endschranz | ronin : yes it runs |
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| 16:49.44 | Ronin | endschranz: there you go |
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| 16:49.51 | hoxu | konni_, well, there shouldn't be such problem with the debian package... unless something got messed up earlier |
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| 16:50.34 | konni_ | hoxu i know, i have set this all up before on another debian machine, somehow it wont work on this machine |
| 16:50.52 | abrotman | RichiH: you have become one with sunday! :) |
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| 16:50.59 | ks | how do I handle shutdown if program takes about 40 minutes to sync data with remote storage ? |
| 16:51.03 | endschranz | ronin: but the init scrip still fails |
| 16:51.15 | ks | shutdown and reboot |
| 16:51.18 | gonzaloaf | hi, I have mounted to partitions fat32 on my /etc/fstab file with the same command, but I cant write on one of them as user just as root, there is the pastebin of my fstab file: http://pastebin.ca/813544 I cant write in the /dev/sda2 partition |
| 16:51.36 | Ronin | endschranz: you just said it runs |
| 16:52.14 | endschranz | ronin: only when i run jabberd but /etc/init.d/jabberd start failes |
| 16:52.40 | RichiH | abrotman: i have become one with rage |
| 16:52.45 | abrotman | heh |
| 16:52.49 | hoxu | gonzaloaf, man mount, there's a section "Mount options for fat" |
| 16:52.53 | ks | can I notify all terminals that shutdown will be delayed for X amount of time due to app Y which needs to close gracefully ? |
| 16:52.54 | RichiH | abrotman: i have _no_ idea why this stuff keeps failing on me |
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| 16:52.59 | Ronin | endschranz: man jabberd, is it supposed to be able to be started from /etc/init.d/ |
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| 16:53.22 | RichiH | i could upgrade libc6, uninstalled all other packages that made trouble |
| 16:53.26 | gonzaloaf | hoxu, why it works with one of them and not with another? |
| 16:53.27 | RichiH | only one left is locales |
| 16:53.32 | RichiH | and it is HIGHLY annoying |
| 16:53.40 | Rapp | can i configure "apt-get -b ..." to call make as "make -j 2" or so, to use multiple cores when compiling? |
| 16:53.40 | gonzaloaf | hoxu, I'm using the same line |
| 16:53.45 | RichiH | i can not upgrade to newer and probably fixed versions |
| 16:53.54 | RichiH | and i can not fix this mess, either |
| 16:54.01 | konni_ | Okay oidentd is started, however seems like psybnc is not getting an ident response. |
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| 16:55.09 | Enron | debian is not resolving any dns, even though I put in the correct dns server ip in the interface file. |
| 16:55.13 | Ronin | !tell osphy about root |
| 16:55.50 | engla | Rapp: I think you can set CONCURRENCY_LEVEL in the env |
| 16:56.12 | SamuraiDio | abrotman, wouldn't a 64 bits userland be faster than a 32bits? |
| 16:56.18 | Enron | can someone help me |
| 16:56.28 | ks | also how do I append color ascii image to motd ? |
| 16:56.29 | SamuraiDio | !tell Enron about ask |
| 16:56.31 | Rapp | engla: ok, thanks |
| 16:56.52 | Enron | !tell SamuraiDio about already asked but no response |
| 16:57.11 | \amethyst | SamuraiDio: depends on what you run... there are some situations where 32-bit mode is faster |
| 16:57.27 | \amethyst | SamuraiDio: particularly because pointers are smaller, so you can fit more of them in cache |
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| 16:57.41 | hoxu | gonzaloaf, the manual section explains it... you've specified user option, which allows mounting as normal user, and the fat section tells you this about uid: "(Default: the uid and gid of the current process.)" |
| 16:57.43 | Enron | debian is not resolving any dns, even though I put in the correct dns server ip in the interface file, can someone help me troubleshoot |
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| 16:58.02 | hoxu | gonzaloaf, you probably mounted one partition as root and another as user |
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| 16:59.03 | Enron | debian is not resolving any dns, even though I put in the correct dns server ip in the interface file, can someone help me troubleshoot |
| 16:59.11 | webczat | hi |
| 16:59.17 | SamuraiDio | Enron, sorry |
| 16:59.18 | RichiH | Enron: can you ping the dns server? |
| 16:59.24 | webczat | how can i create my own linux distro? |
| 16:59.24 | Enron | yes |
| 16:59.31 | webczat | ;) |
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| 16:59.36 | Enron | pings fine |
| 16:59.39 | Phil | Enron, /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 16:59.44 | SamuraiDio | \amethyst, so, when use an 64bits userland would be recommended? |
| 16:59.49 | Enron | internet connectivity is fine just won't resolve |
| 17:00.15 | RichiH | Enron: try 141.1.1.1 |
| 17:00.19 | SamuraiDio | Enron, edit your /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:00.19 | ks | webczat linux sucks |
| 17:00.28 | procdaemon | Does anyone here have experience with running Debian on a Macbook? I'm thinking of getting one. Otherwise whats your opinion on getting a Macbook vs some other laptop, and then putting Debian on it? |
| 17:00.37 | Ronin | !ppc |
| 17:00.37 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 17:00.38 | dpkg | methinks laptop is All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad> |
| 17:00.38 | dpkg | methinks ppc is is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
| 17:00.38 | engla | webczat: gnewsense have a howto on how to do that :) |
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| 17:00.49 | abrotman | Ronin: it's not ppc anymore (he'd have called it a powerbook) |
| 17:00.54 | Ronin | ack |
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| 17:01.25 | zoddan | where do i put my error mess? |
| 17:01.32 | hoxu | !tell zoddan about paste |
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| 17:01.43 | procdaemon | oh cool thx, any person opinions on the matter then? |
| 17:01.49 | procdaemon | *personal |
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| 17:02.10 | abrotman | unless you're going to use OSX .. not worth it? |
| 17:02.14 | hoxu | !opinions |
| 17:02.14 | dpkg | opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one, they all stink, and it's really not polite to air yours in public, or be prepared to defend yours if you do show it in #debian. Your opinion, not your asshole. Well, maybe both. |
| 17:02.25 | hoxu | -_- |
| 17:02.51 | procdaemon | hoxu: well thats ur opinion i guess :) |
| 17:03.08 | zoddan | i get this error when i try to start compiz: http://paste.debian.net/44747 |
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| 17:03.33 | hoxu | zoddan, glxinfo |grep -i direct, what does it say? |
| 17:03.55 | engla | if macbooks still are as robust as the ibook I am using, then it should be worth it. however, check on compatibility of everything like wifi |
| 17:04.13 | hoxu | zoddan, I'm assuming you tried what it suggested? :p |
| 17:04.29 | zoddan | hoxu: "YES" |
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| 17:04.47 | zoddan | Direct Rendering: yes |
| 17:04.51 | jolt^d4 | procdaemon: Seems to be working; http://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro |
| 17:04.58 | jolt^d4 | procdaemon: Wireless can be a hassle though |
| 17:05.16 | zoddan | hoxu: something i have missed in some wierd conf-file? :P |
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| 17:05.27 | section3 | i have a process that keeps changing pid and I can't kill it, i even tried using pkill with the command that is being run and nothing...any ideas? |
| 17:05.49 | procdaemon | jolt^d4: wireless is usually a fun affair |
| 17:06.03 | engla | section3: if it has the same but uniqe name, can't you "killall" it? |
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| 17:07.53 | hoxu | zoddan, no clue, you could try "xhost +" (insecure) before running it, but this is a totally wild guess |
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| 17:08.44 | jelly-home | zoddan: using fglrx? |
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| 17:09.04 | magali | hello |
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| 17:09.30 | Ronin | !tell root_ about root |
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| 17:09.58 | magali | i have a problem with grub, i have 3 systems debian ubuntu and xp and i've just install grub, but i want that it find all my systems, i do update-grub and there's no systems on menu.lst event debian is not in, is someone can help me ? |
| 17:09.59 | jelly-home | hoxu: xhost only handles permissions to access the X server, and he can already access it. |
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| 17:10.35 | hajhouse | i'm curious which text-to-speech engine in debian has the highest synthesis quality (for english) |
| 17:10.38 | wols_ | magali: not possible you need to handle your menu.lst manually |
| 17:10.39 | sepski | magali, read the comments in the menu.lst file |
| 17:11.01 | magali | there's no possibility that grub find alone systems ? |
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| 17:11.17 | wols_ | what do you mea "grub find alone systems"? |
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| 17:11.24 | wols_ | grub doesn't find anything |
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| 17:11.44 | magali | i want a command and grub purpose to me all systems on different hard disk |
| 17:11.57 | jelly-home | magali: grub doesn't do any finding. "update-grub" script only handles the kernels on your currently booted Debian. |
| 17:12.01 | magali | strange, i'm sure i have soon see that |
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| 17:12.06 | bumpty | hi |
| 17:12.09 | wols_ | !fr magali |
| 17:12.12 | bumpty | i need help, a serious networking trouble |
| 17:12.14 | magali | jelly-home: it don't find debian |
| 17:12.21 | hoxu | jelly-home, well, it was wild :P |
| 17:12.24 | bumpty | if someone is getting this message, please reply once to make sure i can talk to you |
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| 17:12.28 | magali | wols_: ?? |
| 17:12.32 | bumpty | ok! i am getting replies |
| 17:12.34 | wols_ | magali: and it never ever will. you need to handle your menu.kst manually |
| 17:12.35 | drwahl | i'm having an issue with Xorg. i'll go away from my computer, my screen saver will start, then i return to my computer, and i have no control over the X session. i have ssh'ed in from another computer and i see that Xorg is taking 100% of my cpu usage. and ideas why this happens and how to fix it? |
| 17:12.52 | magali | wols_: ok thanks for answers |
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| 17:12.56 | wols_ | magali: your english is quite bad, so ask #debian-fr in french |
| 17:13.03 | bumpty | the trouble is that we have got a new modem. after the new modem, i am unable to open any website using domain name. I have to nslookup and enter ip address to open the website |
| 17:13.10 | magali | i do it too but nobody answer to me, so i come here |
| 17:13.11 | bumpty | any caching problem. how can I resolve it? |
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| 17:13.19 | magali | wols_: i do it too but nobody answer to me, so i come here |
| 17:13.19 | RichiH | jelly-home: poke? |
| 17:13.25 | jelly-home | RichiH: peek! |
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| 17:13.46 | magali | wols_: and debianfr is not a help channel but debianfr is |
| 17:13.53 | wols_ | bumpty: don't ask to ask |
| 17:13.56 | magali | wols_: and debian-fr is not a help channel but debianfr is |
| 17:13.57 | RichiH | http://rafb.net/p/qh85zK38.html |
| 17:14.09 | bumpty | wols_ i have already asked the complete question. waiting for response. |
| 17:14.24 | RichiH | jelly-home: i am having massive problems :) |
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| 17:14.53 | jelly-home | RichiH: My prices are negotiable! |
| 17:15.10 | RichiH | jelly-home: a virtual cookie? ;) |
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| 17:15.13 | Llama | ÄÏÂÒÙÊ ÄÅÎØ |
| 17:15.25 | bumpty | the trouble is that we have got a new modem. after the new modem, i |
| 17:15.25 | bumpty | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.25 | bumpty | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.26 | jelly-home | RichiH: I didn't say I negotiate well |
| 17:15.32 | bumpty | oops sorry for that |
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| 17:15.36 | positron2007 | Hello! I just installed debian and I try to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, when selecting 24bit color I get xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071212171243, what can I do? |
| 17:15.53 | RichiH | jelly-home: good ;) |
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| 17:16.04 | bumpty | does it have something to do with any network cache or something, that i might need to clear |
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| 17:16.12 | jelly-home | RichiH: debconf failed to configure, that's one problem |
| 17:16.18 | RichiH | jelly-home:agreed |
| 17:16.23 | wols_ | bumpty: what is in your resolv.conf? |
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| 17:16.36 | wols_ | jelly-home: from what I see this is the only problem :) |
| 17:16.43 | drwahl | positron2007: that doesnt sound like an error. it is trying to write a new config (to match the settings you just chose) but it is warning you that your current config looks custom, so it will back it up |
| 17:16.44 | bumpty | wols_ nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
| 17:16.52 | koolhead17 | hi all |
| 17:16.54 | wols_ | bumpty: and this nameserver works? |
| 17:16.56 | jelly-home | wols_: well, there's the minor locales issue too |
| 17:16.57 | Lunar_Lamp | positron2007, that's not really an error - it's just telling you that it's changing your config file, and backing up the old one just in case you want to go back to using that. |
| 17:17.05 | wols_ | jelly-home: which happens cause there is no debconf |
| 17:17.14 | positron2007 | drwahl: But it ends there and I can't start X |
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| 17:17.20 | koolhead17 | am running debian but the nmap says am usin openbsd.any reason why it says so? |
| 17:17.22 | bumpty | wols_ yes, this is the name server i use with nslookup to get the IP address of www.google.com and then enter that ip in iceweasel to enter google |
| 17:17.24 | jelly-home | wols_: I supposed it'll be fixed as soon as locales postinst is run ;-) |
| 17:17.32 | RichiH | as locales and debconf are not all that important, anyway.. ;) |
| 17:17.37 | dekauk | hi.. |
| 17:17.42 | abrotman | the bumpty dance is your chance .. do the bump |
| 17:17.46 | RichiH | jelly-home: that was what i tried to do for that last hours |
| 17:17.48 | dekauk | peoples |
| 17:17.49 | drwahl | positron2007: what happens when you try to do "startx" from console? |
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| 17:17.54 | drwahl | i'm having an issue with Xorg. i'll go away from my computer, my screen saver will start, then i return to my computer, and i have no control over the X session. i have ssh'ed in from another computer and i see that Xorg is taking 100% of my cpu usage. and ideas why this happens and how to fix it? |
| 17:18.04 | positron2007 | drwahl: It gets back to prompt |
| 17:18.08 | wols_ | RichiH: set -x on the debconf.postins |
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| 17:18.11 | abrotman | drwahl: might be GL screensavers |
| 17:18.14 | RichiH | jelly-home: until i thought a new version of debconf would prolly fix it |
| 17:18.15 | jelly-home | RichiH: DEBCONF_DEBUG=1 dpkg --configure -a |
| 17:18.20 | bumpty | wols_ i am able to open websites and IRC fine with Windows but this problem is happening with debian only, both for browser as well as pidgin |
| 17:18.23 | drwahl | abrotman: its just "Blank Screen" |
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| 17:18.30 | jelly-home | RichiH: sorry, not 1, but ...=developer |
| 17:18.35 | bumpty | wols_ any idea what can I do to clear all netowrk related caches, so that it can start afresh |
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| 17:18.36 | wols_ | bumpty: I asked you something. pastebin it |
| 17:18.36 | drwahl | abrotman: unless it uses opengl to render black... |
| 17:18.38 | abrotman | drwahl: okay .. did you check X logs or anything ? |
| 17:19.09 | wols_ | positron2007: what does your xorg log say after you try to run startx? |
| 17:19.11 | koolhead17 | can anyone say nmap sayin am running openbsd? |
| 17:19.11 | drwahl | abrotman: i will check for relevant info right now |
| 17:19.22 | wols_ | koolhead17: cause nmap is shit? |
| 17:19.29 | RichiH | jelly-home: that does not propagate into the scripts, i can call the debconf binary with DEBCONF_DEBUG, though |
| 17:19.31 | bumpty | wols_ I don't think your messge has made it. i can only see that you asked for resolv.conf which i gave u |
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| 17:19.32 | koolhead17 | woli think soo man |
| 17:19.32 | bumpty | you* |
| 17:19.50 | jelly-home | RichiH: sure it does! |
| 17:19.59 | positron2007 | wols_: XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. |
| 17:20.01 | koolhead17 | wol_ |
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| 17:20.11 | jelly-home | RichiH: maybe env DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer dpkg --configure -a |
| 17:20.16 | bumpty | wols_ could you please repeat what you want for my network trouble? |
| 17:20.20 | wols_ | positron2007: pastebin the xorg.log since you don#t know what an error is and what not |
| 17:20.22 | dekauk | Someone hit me so you |
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| 17:20.32 | RichiH | jelly-home: nope |
| 17:20.49 | pktck | hi all, i'm trying to figure out if GFDL content can be used in Debian packages in the free repository - does anyone know what the latest consensus is? |
| 17:20.51 | jelly-home | RichiH: hey, that's how I debug my mess :-| |
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| 17:20.58 | positron2007 | wols_: Is there a nopaste utility? |
| 17:21.21 | wols_ | pktck: depends if _everything_ can be modified or not |
| 17:21.33 | jelly-home | !pastebin pipe |
| 17:21.34 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. |
| 17:21.36 | wols_ | pktck: if not, it can't be in debian as happened with gdb and gcc docs |
| 17:21.39 | dalias | also it's ok if the nonmodifiable parts can be removed |
| 17:21.46 | dalias | (but debian package would have to remove them) |
| 17:21.48 | drwahl | abrotman: i assume /var/log/Xorg.0.log should be the place it would be logged? if so, there is nothing in there erroring. |
| 17:21.50 | RichiH | jelly-home: http://rafb.net/p/ei4zIq59.html |
| 17:21.56 | jelly-home | positron2007: what dpkg said above |
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| 17:22.01 | dekauk | Ross oi order to hit me |
| 17:22.04 | RichiH | jelly-home: /me stupid |
| 17:22.15 | bumpty | wols_ could you please help? |
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| 17:22.20 | signuts | Morning |
| 17:22.34 | signuts | Is there a mirror select utility for debian? |
| 17:22.36 | Enron | is "deb http://mirrors.geeks.org/debian etch main" correct line to put in sources.list for apt-get |
| 17:22.42 | Enron | it keeps telling me not found |
| 17:22.47 | wols_ | signuts: no |
| 17:23.06 | jelly-home | RichiH: undoubtedly, but how does that help with the problem? :-) Add set -x to the failing /var/lib/dpkg/info/debconf.config |
| 17:23.13 | wols_ | Enron: http://www.us.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 17:23.23 | Enron | ty |
| 17:23.26 | Daveman | good day, abrotman :) |
| 17:23.28 | bumpty | hi |
| 17:23.34 | signuts | wols_, FYI, netselect-apt |
| 17:23.37 | bumpty | test, is my message reaching the channel? |
| 17:23.51 | jelly-home | bumpty: no |
| 17:23.53 | wols_ | signuts: it managed to hose my sources.list before. your choice |
| 17:24.15 | wols_ | stew: can you bring aptitude since dpkg is AWOL? |
| 17:24.25 | RichiH | jelly-home http://rafb.net/p/1kXwZ251.html |
| 17:24.27 | wols_ | oops. not awol, but why doesn't it answer :( |
| 17:24.29 | wols_ | !Ping |
| 17:24.29 | dpkg | pong |
| 17:24.43 | pktck | wols_: thanks! |
| 17:24.54 | dekauk | And expensive beauty wants to chat me . |
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| 17:25.06 | jelly-home | RichiH: the exact same error as before. |
| 17:25.11 | RichiH | dekauk: huh? |
| 17:25.19 | RichiH | jelly-home: yes, yes indeed |
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| 17:25.27 | jelly-home | RichiH: btw, what does your /bin/sh point to? |
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| 17:25.59 | RichiH | exit $confmodule->exitcode if $confmodule->exitcode > 0; in /usr/share/debconf/frontend is the culprit for that |
| 17:26.10 | xlotlu | kde question: any idea why the shutdown & restart buttons are missing in the logout screen? ...and why i can't restart / shutdown using dcop ksmserver for that matter (these 2 must be related..); kdm is configured to allow local shutdown for everybody, and kcmsmserver to offer shutdown options |
| 17:26.11 | RichiH | jelly: zsh |
| 17:26.13 | Minnozz | Hi guys, how can I adjust the terminal width and height? |
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| 17:26.15 | RichiH | jelly-home: zsh |
| 17:26.20 | dekauk | Beauty |
| 17:26.35 | RichiH | dekauk: what are you doing, exactly? |
| 17:26.38 | positron2007 | wols_: http://pastebin.ca/813597 |
| 17:26.41 | jenocin | got a ? , have proftpd going through the firewall, pasv works great, active connections are dieing, if I connect from the ftp in windows in do dir, i get disconnected |
| 17:26.55 | signuts | wtf. How come when I apt-get install php5-gd, security.debian.org it hangs on connecting to 128.31.0.36 -- but ping'ing responds w/ a different address. does apt cache dns resolution? Many attempts seems useless. |
| 17:27.05 | wols_ | positron2007: # |
| 17:27.05 | wols_ | (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch. |
| 17:27.05 | wols_ | # |
| 17:27.05 | wols_ | [dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 1.7.0 but version 1.17.0 or newer is needed. |
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| 17:27.37 | dekauk | hi |
| 17:27.42 | wols_ | positron2007: how did you install your radeon driver? |
| 17:27.57 | positron2007 | I did apt-get install xorg |
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| 17:28.12 | jelly-home | RichiH: you could change that /usr/share/debconf/frontend invocation into perl -d ... and have lots of Perl debugger fun! |
| 17:28.16 | wols_ | positron2007: no your did not. how did you install the fglrx driver? |
| 17:28.26 | positron2007 | I guess I didn't |
| 17:28.32 | positron2007 | Just did that command |
| 17:28.33 | wols_ | positron2007: answer my question? |
| 17:28.41 | positron2007 | apt-get install xorg |
| 17:28.43 | wols_ | positron2007: that is not true. xorg doesn't install fglrx |
| 17:28.52 | jelly-home | RichiH: I wonder why env DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer dpkg stuff doesn't work for you, though. |
| 17:28.58 | wols_ | !fglrx positron2007 |
| 17:28.59 | positron2007 | Then maybe I didn't install that |
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| 17:29.05 | procdaemon | the "radeon" driver installs with xorg |
| 17:29.11 | jelly-home | RichiH: does your .zshenv do nasty things with env.variables? |
| 17:29.16 | wols_ | positron2007: fglrx didn't isntall itself |
| 17:29.23 | procdaemon | the fglrx does not |
| 17:29.41 | jelly-home | RichiH: can you put /bin/sh back to say bash or dash and try to dpkg --configure -a |
| 17:29.47 | positron2007 | I did apt-get install kde-core, apt-get install gnome and apt-get install xorg |
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| 17:30.01 | karmatronic | hi |
| 17:30.12 | wols_ | positron2007: you installed fglrx. how? answer that please not irrelevant stuff |
| 17:30.16 | dekauk | Aid and you live in where? |
| 17:30.26 | karmatronic | hey , mp3burn burns my cds , but all i hear is noise ,any idea? |
| 17:30.30 | positron2007 | wols_: I'm trying but I don't know |
| 17:30.31 | wols_ | eth01: can you stop messaging me? |
| 17:30.39 | dynamitedj | can anyone help me with a debian box, everything was working fine until last night when i did apt-get upgrade now it's failing on some stupid package i've never heard of called dtc-postfix-courier |
| 17:30.40 | keith4 | wols_: it's fairly obvious that he doesn't know what you're talking about |
| 17:30.46 | wols_ | positron2007: well, install it. this time properly |
| 17:30.48 | karmatronic | burning too fast , or wrong sample rate? |
| 17:31.05 | jelly-home | karmatronic: or problems with byte order |
| 17:31.05 | dekauk | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.06 | wols_ | !tell dynamitedj about bat |
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| 17:31.20 | karmatronic | jelly-home: what do you mean ? |
| 17:31.20 | wols_ | dekauk: do you have a debian related question? |
| 17:31.44 | positron2007 | wols_: Sorry to trouble but how? |
| 17:31.51 | wols_ | !ati positron2007 |
| 17:32.05 | wols_ | !tell positron2007 about fglrx |
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| 17:32.34 | jelly-home | karmatronic: man cdrecord (or wodim), see options -audio and -swab |
| 17:32.41 | RichiH | jelly-home: aye, will do |
| 17:32.50 | dekauk | Oque that and debian? |
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| 17:33.20 | dynamitedj | http://paste.debian.net/44749 |
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| 17:33.30 | dynamitedj | http://paste.debian.net/44751 |
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| 17:33.43 | wols_ | dekauk: do you have a debian related question? |
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| 17:34.04 | cahoot | karmatronic: mp3burn converts to wav/pcm? |
| 17:34.07 | jelly-home | karmatronic: I have no experience with mp3burn, this is just a wild guess. For all I know your app might be burning raw mpegs (or oggs or flac) onto the cd |
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| 17:34.59 | dekauk | I do not know oque is debian? |
| 17:35.10 | netgear | when trying to compile pidgin i now get msn.png is missing when restarting x |
| 17:35.14 | netgear | how do i fix this? |
| 17:35.22 | RichiH | jelly-home: http://rafb.net/p/moZtDB16.html |
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| 17:35.41 | RichiH | jelly-home: more output, at least |
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| 17:35.44 | dynamitedj | wols_ was that what you needed? |
| 17:35.51 | wols_ | !pidgin |
| 17:35.52 | dpkg | hmm... pidgin is formerly <gaim>, but due to trademark issues with AOL over the acronym AIM, had its name changed to Pidgin. libgaim is now libpurple and gaim-text is now Finch. Backported packages are available for Etch, add "deb http://ftp.cyconet.org/debian etch-backports main" to your sources.list. |
| 17:35.59 | wols_ | netgear: get the .deb |
| 17:36.10 | netgear | i will but how do i fix this? |
| 17:36.19 | dekauk | hi |
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| 17:37.33 | netgear | wols_, can i download pidgin.deb and add it to /var/cache/apt/? |
| 17:37.37 | wols_ | dekauk: dotdeb? php5 for sarge? |
| 17:37.43 | wols_ | netgear: sure |
| 17:38.02 | jelly-home | RichiH: find that echo '!!!' to the stdout, comment it out, and beat the maintainer with a stick |
| 17:38.04 | netgear | wols_, so cant i make my repository like that also? |
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| 17:38.38 | netgear | copy all .deb from my dvd's to that /var/apt/cache? |
| 17:38.38 | wols_ | dynamitedj: the package you have a problem with is not in debian. fix your sources.list and stay away from foreign repos |
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| 17:39.34 | RichiH | jelly-home: that is myself |
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| 17:39.51 | RichiH | jelly-home: a remnant of my debug session earlier |
| 17:39.52 | dynamitedj | wols_ now it's totally screwed it up how do i remove it? |
| 17:39.55 | wols_ | RichiH: self flagellation is fun and cleanses the soul |
| 17:39.58 | RichiH | sorry, should of mentioned that |
| 17:40.09 | wols_ | dynamitedj: with dpkg for example |
| 17:40.12 | jelly-home | !penixstrike RichiH |
| 17:40.12 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking RichiH to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 17:40.20 | RichiH | wols_: make all the jokes you want _after_ my system is usable, again ;) |
| 17:40.23 | dekauk | The more good as I can help . |
| 17:40.38 | dynamitedj | i'm ssh'd in and i'm nearly a n00b |
| 17:40.49 | netgear | wols_, can i ask this: does a repository need to be in shape like /dists/main etc or can one copy also many .deb packages to /var/cache/apt/ and then just add nearby repositories to download all new stuff? |
| 17:40.56 | RichiH | dekauk: please stop this random babbling and/or tell us what you want |
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| 17:41.24 | wols_ | RichiH: he wants to help but has no clue of the english language me thinks |
| 17:41.31 | dekauk | Or face I know I live here in brazil then how can I help you? |
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| 17:41.33 | wols_ | !tell dekauk about br |
| 17:41.35 | jelly-home | RichiH: debconf uses stdout. Any scripts that use debconf _must not_ output anything to fd 1. man debconf-devel is helpful |
| 17:41.57 | dynamitedj | wols_: if i try to remove i get an error saying re-install if i try to re-install i get that same error still i can't win i might as well just wipe the box and start again |
| 17:42.45 | jelly-home | RichiH: (I'm lying, echoing to stdout usually works in sarge+ debconfs, but apparently not always ;-) |
| 17:43.15 | jelly-home | RichiH: do echo foo 1>&2 instead |
| 17:43.18 | RichiH | jelly-home: i will remove it |
| 17:43.33 | dekauk | Sao paulo . |
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| 17:43.57 | dynamitedj | wols_: The package dtc-postfix-courier needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 17:44.20 | wols_ | dynamitedj: what debian branch are you running? |
| 17:44.29 | RichiH | fuck me like the goat i am |
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| 17:44.34 | RichiH | jelly-home: it works! |
| 17:44.40 | dynamitedj | Linux server1 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 17:44.44 | wols_ | RichiH: talk less to dave2. you worry me |
| 17:44.55 | wols_ | dynamitedj: that is a kernel version not a debian version |
| 17:44.57 | Ronin | dynamitedj: which release of debian |
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| 17:45.08 | dynamitedj | sarge i believe |
| 17:45.10 | asBook | i wonder, what makes your pc compiling a lot faster, more cpu power, more ram of faster harddisk? |
| 17:45.21 | streuner | dynamitedj: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 17:45.28 | RichiH | wols_: let it suffice to say that, in private channels, dave2 is my padawan when it comes to verbal abuse ;) |
| 17:45.37 | wols_ | dynamitedj: it does not exist in sarge. remove all those shitty non debian repos and remove the packages they installed. they broke your system. bigtime |
| 17:45.48 | dynamitedj | ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 17:45.53 | RichiH | jelly-home: thank you, thank you, thank you |
| 17:46.06 | wols_ | dynamitedj: do a proper etch upgrade |
| 17:46.12 | wols_ | !sarge->etch |
| 17:46.12 | dpkg | sarge->etch is read the etch release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes ; the recommended upgrade procedure for sarge->etch is no longer as simple as running "aptitude dist-upgrade", please follow the prodedure in the <release notes>. Also ask me about <security> |
| 17:46.26 | dekauk | Alguen of you has orkut |
| 17:46.27 | wols_ | dynamitedj: you run part etch, part sarge |
| 17:46.35 | Nostahl | whats a good easy way to format a flash drive from a terminal |
| 17:46.40 | wols_ | dekauk: either follow the #debian rules or go away |
| 17:46.47 | wols_ | Nostahl: mkfs |
| 17:47.01 | Nostahl | !mkfs |
| 17:47.01 | dpkg | i guess mkfs is is MaKe FileSystem (kinda obvious what it does) |
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| 17:47.13 | Nostahl | whats the format i use wols? |
| 17:47.15 | wols_ | Nostahl: don't always ask dpkg, use man |
| 17:47.19 | wols_ | Nostahl: man mkfs |
| 17:47.22 | netgear | abrotman, can i copy all the .deb files from my dvd's to /var/cache/apt/ to create a "local repository or does it need to be in /main /contrib /non-free folders? |
| 17:47.27 | procdaemon | ooh dpkg is kinda snippy |
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| 17:47.38 | wols_ | netgear: you can but why? |
| 17:47.52 | netgear | i have a small data cap left |
| 17:48.00 | jelly-home | !win RichiH |
| 17:48.00 | dpkg | Congratulations, RichiH! You have won a one way ticket to Nova Scotia! |
| 17:48.04 | Airbottle | 52 * * * * screen -S connection vnstat -i eth1 -d does this command in crontab should give a terminal with the output of vnstat? |
| 17:48.11 | asBook | anyone? |
| 17:48.12 | Airbottle | it doesn't seem to work |
| 17:48.16 | dekauk | como seguir as regras? |
| 17:48.22 | netgear | so instead of downloading it i want to copy it from dvd's since i also have 4.0 r1 update dvd |
| 17:48.22 | jelly-home | !pt |
| 17:48.23 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 17:48.32 | dekauk | como seguir as regras? |
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| 17:48.41 | Ronin | !ops dekauk is unable to grasp this is in anglish channel and cant find #debian-br |
| 17:48.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: ronin complains about: dekauk is unable to grasp this is in anglish channel and cant find #debian-br |
| 17:48.52 | jelly-home | Ronin: perhaps it's a bot |
| 17:48.52 | RichiH | !tell dekauk about br |
| 17:49.05 | Ronin | jelly-home: possibly, wouldn't be the first |
| 17:49.15 | RichiH | dekauk: please /join #debian-br |
| 17:49.32 | asBook | when updates tokes tolong for me, what do i need to replace in my pc? |
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| 17:49.40 | RichiH | he/it is only in here, so i doubt it is |
| 17:49.48 | wols_ | asBook: #hardware |
| 17:50.00 | asBook | thx |
| 17:50.01 | asBook | :) |
| 17:50.10 | dekauk | But in debian-br can not talk to nobody |
| 17:50.14 | Ronin | or update more frequently |
| 17:50.23 | Ronin | dekauk: then speak here but in english and on topic |
| 17:50.38 | wols_ | dekauk: you cannot talk in here either sinec you don't grasp the goal of this channe or knoe sufficient english |
| 17:50.48 | wols_ | dekauk: this is NOT a smalltalk channel |
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| 17:51.13 | jelly-home | nor a lithp channel |
| 17:52.04 | netgear | wols, so can i presume you think it wont hurt my system to copy all *.deb from dvd's to /var/cache/apt? |
| 17:52.27 | wols_ | netgear: it will cost diskspace but that's it |
| 17:52.36 | pickcoder | [ot] anyone familiar with cubic packing (boxes) logic? |
| 17:52.41 | netgear | well i have allready all 4 dvds mounted as isos |
| 17:52.42 | dekauk | You can teach me more. |
| 17:52.42 | dekauk | I can I help? |
| 17:52.57 | netgear | thanks wols_ |
| 17:53.14 | Maulkin | dekauk: you need to go to #debian-br |
| 17:53.20 | Ronin | wow :) |
| 17:53.28 | *** mode/#debian [+o Maulkin] by ChanServ |
| 17:53.33 | *** mode/#debian [+b %dekauk!*@*] by Maulkin |
| 17:53.34 | pickcoder | the smell of yeast.. I mean sucess? |
| 17:53.36 | *** mode/#debian [-o Maulkin] by Maulkin |
| 17:53.43 | Maulkin | See, beer++ |
| 17:53.45 | RichiH | oh, #debian-br is empty |
| 17:53.45 | pickcoder | success too |
| 17:53.52 | RichiH | oups! |
| 17:53.54 | Maulkin | !br |
| 17:53.54 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 17:53.55 | themill | !beer Maulkin |
| 17:53.57 | netgear | i found out how to mute my pcspeaker, it so cool not having that annoying sound anymore |
| 17:53.57 | Maulkin | oops |
| 17:54.16 | RichiH | dekauk: /server irc.oftc.net -- /join #debian-br |
| 17:54.20 | karmatronic | netgear: blacklisted the pcspkr module |
| 17:54.32 | netgear | i know i said i found out how :) |
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| 17:54.43 | dynamitedj | wols_: i have updated the source list but i can't do anything else as it's saying about the dtc package needing to be re-installed |
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| 17:55.03 | karmatronic | dynamitedj: dpkg -r dtc |
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| 17:55.19 | gamag | hi |
| 17:55.31 | karmatronic | dynamitedj: then update , and optionnaly reinstall this tc stuff |
| 17:55.44 | dynamitedj | dpkg: error processing dtc-postfix-courier (--remove): |
| 17:55.45 | dpkg | That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster. |
| 17:55.45 | dynamitedj | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.45 | dynamitedj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:56.03 | TurboBee | Anyone know what would cause permission denied when trying to write to a samba share from windows? |
| 17:56.03 | RichiH | ok, poked the #debian-br guys on oftc |
| 17:56.04 | abrotman | hi Daveman |
| 17:56.18 | gamag | after much trouble i could log into irc.freenode.net using pidgin. but i am still unable to open websites using domain name. i have to convert it to ip address using nslookup and then enter that in Iceweasel. this problem started after we got a new modem today. things are fine with windows though. please help. |
| 17:56.29 | psycodad | TurboBee: permissions ? ;-) |
| 17:56.33 | RichiH | dekauk: debianbrasil.org |
| 17:56.36 | dynamitedj | #flood |
| 17:56.36 | dynamitedj | server1:/etc/apt# dpkg -r dtc-postfix-courier |
| 17:56.36 | dynamitedj | dpkg: error processing dtc-postfix-courier (--remove): |
| 17:56.36 | dynamitedj | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.36 | dynamitedj | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.36 | dynamitedj | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 17:56.36 | dpkg | That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster. |
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| 17:56.46 | abrotman | netgear: you can just drop them all in there if you want .. but it's huge |
| 17:56.59 | themill | !tell dynamitedj about paste |
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| 17:57.25 | karmatronic | gamag: check /etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:57.29 | infinity0 | does editing /etc/hosts affect the changes immediately? |
| 17:57.39 | karmatronic | infinity0: yes |
| 17:57.51 | infinity0 | karmatronic: hmm, kk, cheers :) |
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| 17:57.57 | dynamitedj | http://paste.debian.net/44756 |
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| 17:58.06 | gamag | karmatronic: nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
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| 17:58.15 | netgear | abrotman, one last question i know im hammering on this, i want to use only stable, so by copying all .deb from dvd's will that only be stable or not? |
| 17:58.29 | psycodad | gamag: compare to ipconfig /all in a windows box |
| 17:58.32 | gamag | karmatronic: that's the name server nslookup is using to resolve domain names to ip address, then i copy that ip address into the web browser to open the website |
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| 17:58.53 | gamag | psycodad: it is the same. i have done that before. 192.168.1.1 is the resolver in both linux and windows |
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| 17:59.21 | psycodad | gamag: can you ping the names, does that work ? |
| 17:59.21 | dynamitedj | karmatronic: that is the link to the full output when i tried to dpkg "dpkg -r dtc-postfix-courier" |
| 17:59.27 | psycodad | say from a shell |
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| 17:59.37 | abrotman | netgear: should be |
| 17:59.57 | gamag | psycodad: yes, pinging works. pinging also provides me the ip address for the domain names. |
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| 18:00.07 | netgear | so if i install from dvd and want to use unstable there isnt any packages on dvd for unstable? |
| 18:00.10 | psycodad | do you have a proxy set in your browser ?? |
| 18:00.12 | karmatronic | gamag: you should check network options in firefox |
| 18:00.19 | gamag | psycodad: 64 bytes from www.google.com (64.233.189.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=237 time=189 ms |
| 18:00.32 | karmatronic | gamag: i agree pwith psycodad |
| 18:00.33 | gamag | karmatronic: checked. connect directly to internet. that's how we connect to internet |
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| 18:01.18 | gamag | psycodad: also with the same firefox settings, we are able to open websites using the ip address http://64.233.189.104/ but not as http://www.google.com/ |
| 18:01.19 | abrotman | netgear: they used to make images . not sure they still do |
| 18:01.25 | gamag | karmatronic: ^^^ |
| 18:02.01 | karmatronic | gamag: hmmm , you re in a windows domain ? |
| 18:02.01 | gamag | karmatronic: no |
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| 18:02.01 | karmatronic | gamag: simple network ? |
| 18:02.01 | netgear | abrotman, how can i make sure about this? i really dont feel like having problems right after solving some |
| 18:02.11 | netgear | any deb developer here? |
| 18:02.19 | gamag | karmatronic: yes a simple network at home. one modem connected to a switch with four output ports and four friends sharing it |
| 18:02.41 | gamag | my other friends using windows are running it fine. when i switch to windows, domain names work. but when i am back on linux, domain names do not work |
| 18:02.42 | karmatronic | gamag: you tried with another web browser? |
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| 18:02.52 | gamag | karmatronic: yes, with epiphany too, there is the same problem |
| 18:03.02 | gamag | karmatronic: also with pidgin |
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| 18:03.21 | karmatronic | gamag: same problem with https pages? |
| 18:03.40 | robboplus_ | how do you check current unix time? |
| 18:03.40 | gamag | karmatronic: did not try https pages because http itself is not working |
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| 18:04.04 | gamag | karmatronic: yes same problem with https, checked now |
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| 18:05.00 | abrotman | netgear: problems copying .deb files? |
| 18:05.04 | karmatronic | gamag: check the log? |
| 18:05.20 | dynamitedj | karmatronic: http://paste.debian.net/44756 for the complete error output of dpkg |
| 18:05.57 | karmatronic | dynamitedj: dpkg --r --purge --force-reinstq |
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| 18:06.25 | karmatronic | dynamitedj: as long as you re sure you dont need this package nor his dependencies |
| 18:06.26 | SpeedyG | more people having trouble reaching google ? |
| 18:06.43 | karmatronic | SpeedyG: fine here |
| 18:06.54 | SpeedyG | crap :( |
| 18:07.03 | psycodad | SpeedyG: fine in .ch too |
| 18:07.04 | karmatronic | robboplus_: date |
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| 18:07.07 | HardDisk_WP | root@www:~# ls .subversion/ |
| 18:07.07 | HardDisk_WP | ls: .subversion/: Unknown error 530 |
| 18:07.07 | HardDisk_WP | ?! |
| 18:07.09 | gamag | karmatronic: which log? |
| 18:07.21 | SpeedyG | somehow it doesnt work here |
| 18:07.22 | dynamitedj | according to the debian website is a Domain Technologie Control |
| 18:07.31 | HardDisk_WP | what the 'ell does that mean? |
| 18:07.32 | karmatronic | gamag: tail -f /var/log/messages while you try to access a web page |
| 18:07.59 | HardDisk_WP | Shit. |
| 18:08.00 | HardDisk_WP | http://www.debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=583619 |
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| 18:08.19 | HardDisk_WP | anyone got solutions on this? I think I just borked my server -.- |
| 18:08.36 | karmatronic | gamag: by the way , you dont run any application layer "firewall"? |
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| 18:08.49 | karmatronic | gamag: you d be the only one ,but who knows.. |
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| 18:08.58 | gamag | karmatronic: no app firewall. |
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| 18:09.05 | gamag | karmatronic: no browser related logs |
| 18:09.25 | SpeedyG | hm, stuff's broke over here then .. |
| 18:09.27 | dynamitedj | karmatronic: that command just bought up the dpkg man |
| 18:09.47 | karmatronic | dynamitedj: i meant this command plus the desired package to remove |
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| 18:09.55 | wols_ | dynamitedj: I told you, uninstall ALL programs from gotdeb and other shitty places |
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| 18:10.39 | karmatronic | dynamitedj: it s --force-remove-reinstreq |
| 18:10.49 | dynamitedj | wols_ i'm trying but it won't remove it |
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| 18:11.15 | karmatronic | gamag: just to be sure,could you set manually the dns in resolv.conf |
| 18:11.19 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: boot from a livecd and and reinstall libc6 (or whatever is borked) |
| 18:11.20 | wols_ | dynamitedj: still the debconf error? set all its debconf scripts to "exit 0" |
| 18:11.28 | themill | dynamitedj: the dotdeb repo seems like a good idea until you have to do something major like sarge->etch. At that point, you wish that you'd not used it. |
| 18:11.37 | HardDisk_WP | jelly-home, cant |
| 18:11.40 | HardDisk_WP | its a vserver |
| 18:11.44 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: which release of debian? |
| 18:11.47 | HardDisk_WP | testing |
| 18:11.51 | dynamitedj | karmatronic: dpkg: need an option |
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| 18:12.23 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: does dpkg work? |
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| 18:13.22 | HardDisk_WP | jelly-home, nope |
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| 18:13.54 | themill | HardDisk_WP: you're running testing on a server? Brave or foolish. One of them. |
| 18:14.03 | jelly-home | themill: or both |
| 18:14.18 | dynamitedj | wols_ what do you mean set all it's debconf scripts to "exit 0"? |
| 18:14.18 | HardDisk_WP | :p I use the thing as build platform |
| 18:14.37 | wols_ | themill: look who you're talking to then ther eis no or |
| 18:14.54 | wols_ | dynamitedj: the config scripts for the package |
| 18:15.11 | dynamitedj | wols_ i did what you told me to and ammended the source list now all i'm getting is this same error repeatedely "The package dtc-postfix-courier needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 18:15.13 | wols_ | HardDisk_WP: snapshot.debian.net |
| 18:15.13 | themill | !snapshots |
| 18:15.13 | dpkg | rumour has it, debian snapshot is http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 18:15.36 | HardDisk_WP | got a etch libc6... |
| 18:15.39 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: pastebin the output of /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 18:15.41 | wols_ | dynamitedj: I didn't say to _amend_ anything. I said to _cut_ them out |
| 18:15.55 | dynamitedj | well i deleted them from the sources.list |
| 18:15.57 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: how does the command "dpkg" fail? |
| 18:15.59 | wols_ | HardDisk_WP: your other packages will not like it |
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| 18:16.48 | HardDisk_WP | jelly-home, wols_ : http://pastebin.ca/813662 |
| 18:17.50 | HardDisk_WP | yeah! |
| 18:17.52 | HardDisk_WP | works again |
| 18:18.03 | HardDisk_WP | manually unp'ed libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13etch2_i386.deb |
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| 18:18.15 | HardDisk_WP | surely weird solution, but it works... |
| 18:18.28 | HardDisk_WP | i'll now file a bug report - this is pretty bad. |
| 18:18.35 | dynamitedj | wols_: what else can i try? |
| 18:18.46 | wols_ | dynamitedj: I told you |
| 18:19.12 | dynamitedj | you said about debconf scripts but i got lost at that |
| 18:19.29 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 18:19.46 | \amethyst | HardDisk_WP: strace output of a failing dpkg run would probably be helpful in the bug report |
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| 18:20.07 | gattino_usb | hi |
| 18:20.59 | HardDisk_WP | \amethyst, ok i'll reinstall the broken libc6 after filing the report, and attach the strace after |
| 18:21.08 | positron2007 | wols_: What can I do if this command fails? module-assistant auto-install fglrx-kernel-src It says Bad luck, kernel headers for the kernel version target could not be found and you didn't specify other valid kernel headers to be used. I have the latest linux-kernel-headers |
| 18:21.58 | wols_ | positron2007: what kernel are you running? |
| 18:22.14 | positron2007 | Not sure |
| 18:22.16 | zoddan | jelly-home: ? |
| 18:22.21 | zoddan | hoxu: ? |
| 18:22.26 | positron2007 | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 18:22.41 | stew | positron2007: what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:23.07 | positron2007 | I used 3.1-r for install |
| 18:23.11 | positron2007 | 3.1-r3 |
| 18:23.23 | stew | positron2007: what cpu do you have? |
| 18:23.31 | positron2007 | i686 |
| 18:23.36 | zoddan | i get this error when i try to start compiz: http://paste.debian.net/44747 |
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| 18:24.15 | \amethyst | positron2007: you need kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 18:24.22 | jelly-home | zoddan: I asked if you were using ATI's proprietary drivers, "fglrx" for 3D support. |
| 18:24.22 | dynamitedj | wols_ i got the original error back now http://paste.debian.net/44759 i found a source |
| 18:24.23 | stew | positron2007: you should upgrade to at least 2.4.27-3-686 and consider going to 2.6.8-3-686, although, especially for a desktop machine (which i'm assuming this is if you are installing proprietary video drivers), we'd recommend upgrading to debian stable aka 4.0 |
| 18:24.40 | \amethyst | positron2007: linux-kernel-headers contains the userspace helpers, which aren't useful for compiling modules |
| 18:24.40 | zoddan | jelly: no i dont even have a ATI card :P |
| 18:24.43 | zoddan | jelly-home |
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| 18:25.06 | stew | positron2007: the headers for 2.4.27-2 are no longer in debian becuase 2.4.27-2 was replaced by 2.4.27-3 for security reasons |
| 18:25.08 | HardDisk_WP | \amethyst, that's weird. apt-get update and dpkg -i dont run... |
| 18:25.13 | jelly-home | zoddan: good for you! |
| 18:25.15 | zoddan | jelly-home: it is Intel card |
| 18:25.15 | HardDisk_WP | tar: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by tar) |
| 18:25.27 | zoddan | jelly-home: using "intel" drivers |
| 18:25.51 | stew | HardDisk_WP: what ersion of debian are you running? |
| 18:25.56 | HardDisk_WP | testing |
| 18:25.56 | \amethyst | 2.4.27-2 headers are in sarge security updates |
| 18:25.58 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: that's what happens when you install an old libc onto a system whose packages are built with a newer one |
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| 18:26.02 | wols_ | positron2007: what libc6 do your dpkg? dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
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| 18:26.09 | zoddan | jelly-home: so what do i do to solve it? |
| 18:26.21 | wols_ | *do you run |
| 18:26.22 | \amethyst | HardDisk_WP: you might want to try installing a 2.6 libc to get it to work |
| 18:26.27 | HardDisk_WP | okay |
| 18:26.37 | jelly-home | zoddan: no idea, it's supposed to "just work" for intel cards |
| 18:26.42 | positron2007 | wols_: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 |
| 18:26.56 | stew | HardDisk_WP: what version of libc6 do you have installed? |
| 18:26.58 | wols_ | positron2007: do a proper etch upgrade then |
| 18:27.05 | dynamitedj | wols_ i got the original error back now http://paste.debian.net/44759 i found a source and re-added it got it to download with the error now how do i get it to uninstall i only wanted to install PHP and this automatically installed |
| 18:27.07 | zoddan | jelly-home: ye but maybe i have done something wrong, maybe forgott to change a config or something |
| 18:27.15 | HardDisk_WP | stew, installed the same as positron2007 (manually), dpkg shows 2.7 |
| 18:27.18 | HardDisk_WP | 2.7 is broken |
| 18:27.29 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: I have 2.7 and it works. |
| 18:27.41 | stew | HardDisk_WP: how did you install libc6 2.3.6? |
| 18:27.46 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: which arch? which kernel are you running? |
| 18:27.55 | stew | HardDisk_WP: and exactly is 2.7 broken? |
| 18:28.07 | stew | errr "how exactly" |
| 18:28.14 | \amethyst | dynamitedj: do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed? |
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| 18:28.17 | jelly-home | stew: he just unpacked it manually after having strange errors with almost all commands with 2.7 |
| 18:28.26 | HardDisk_WP | jelly-home, i dunno which arch (vserver) |
| 18:28.40 | \amethyst | HardDisk_WP: dpkg-architecture |
| 18:28.43 | stew | HardDisk_WP: you should reinstall libc6 2.7 |
| 18:28.56 | dynamitedj | \amethyst libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. |
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| 18:29.01 | HardDisk_WP | stew, after libc6_2.7-3_i386 FUBARed the system, i wget'd the old one, unp'ed the data.tgz to / |
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| 18:29.12 | HardDisk_WP | root@www:~# dpkg-architecture |
| 18:29.12 | HardDisk_WP | /usr/bin/perl: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/bin/perl) |
| 18:29.12 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: uname -a; file -L /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 18:29.12 | HardDisk_WP | r |
| 18:29.28 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: well, go back to 2.6.1-2 then |
| 18:29.30 | HardDisk_WP | Linux ww.de 2.6.9-023stab043.3-smp #1 SMP Thu Apr 19 10:35:07 MSD 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:29.30 | HardDisk_WP | /lib/libc.so.6: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped |
| 18:29.37 | stew | HardDisk_WP: you are probably going to have to fix it from outside the system |
| 18:29.39 | HardDisk_WP | jelly-home, vserver w/ shared kernel |
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| 18:29.42 | stew | HardDisk_WP: or reinstall |
| 18:29.42 | HardDisk_WP | impossible |
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| 18:29.45 | HardDisk_WP | also |
| 18:29.47 | DimmuR | is soundblaster xfi working under debian? |
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| 18:29.54 | stew | HardDisk_WP: what is impossible? |
| 18:29.57 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: your kernel looks to be too old to support libc6 2.7 |
| 18:30.07 | abrotman | DimmuR: does it work in alsa? |
| 18:30.11 | wols_ | HardDisk_WP: then you just broke your system |
| 18:30.18 | stew | jelly-home: i thought anything 2.6 was fine? |
| 18:30.20 | dynamitedj | \amethyst my problem is that anything i try to do is telling me that this dtc-postfix-courier is not installed correctly if i try to remove it says re-install if i try to install it errors |
| 18:30.21 | HardDisk_WP | IC... |
| 18:30.30 | abrotman | that's not a debian kernel ? |
| 18:30.31 | \amethyst | dynamitedj: try cp /usr/share/php5/php.ini-dist /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini |
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| 18:30.46 | jelly-home | stew: "/lib/libc.so.6: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped" |
| 18:30.47 | \amethyst | dynamitedj: then try installing dtc-postfix-courier |
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| 18:30.48 | wols_ | abrotman: a vserver. UML or such |
| 18:30.53 | abrotman | okeedokee |
| 18:30.55 | HardDisk_WP | abrotman, yep, its shipped by hoster |
| 18:31.01 | HardDisk_WP | hm |
| 18:31.03 | jelly-home | stew: see the 2.6.8 bit? :-) |
| 18:31.08 | HardDisk_WP | I think I might have to use wget... |
| 18:31.12 | HardDisk_WP | wget and cp still work. |
| 18:31.16 | stew | jelly-home: ok, but he has 2.6.9 |
| 18:31.38 | jelly-home | stew: eh, that's just what file can figure out with its meager knowledge of ELF headers |
| 18:31.45 | HardDisk_WP | phew...thats gotta be weird |
| 18:31.53 | stew | HardDisk_WP: what are you going to wget? |
| 18:31.56 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: ask your provider to upgrade the kernel |
| 18:32.15 | HardDisk_WP | jelly-home, they do not upgrade often... |
| 18:32.24 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: one idea... do you do apt-get clean or autoclean often? |
| 18:32.38 | stew | HardDisk_WP: why don't you just reinstall stable? |
| 18:32.39 | HardDisk_WP | stew, ftp access is working, i guess thats better. i'll take the contents of libc6 2.7 |
| 18:32.48 | dynamitedj | \amethyst: i did that and it jumped to the next line, |
| 18:33.00 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: maybe you still have libc6_*2.6*deb in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 18:33.02 | stew | HardDisk_WP: when you say that 2.7 "fubarred" your install, what exactly do you mean? |
| 18:33.05 | dynamitedj | \amethyst: i restarted apache2 and still no comes up asking if i want to download the page |
| 18:33.07 | HardDisk_WP | stew, downgrading _whole system_?! oh noes, last time I did that it took two weeks |
| 18:33.12 | zoddan | when i try to start compiz from a console i only get this error mesage: |
| 18:33.13 | zoddan | # |
| 18:33.13 | zoddan | GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not available with direct rendering. |
| 18:33.13 | zoddan | # |
| 18:33.13 | zoddan | GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is available with indirect rendering. |
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| 18:33.17 | stew | HardDisk_WP: why are you running testing? |
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| 18:33.20 | HardDisk_WP | stew, http://pastebin.ca/813662 |
| 18:33.25 | themill | !tell zoddan about paste |
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| 18:33.31 | zoddan | ops |
| 18:34.09 | HardDisk_WP | stew, i use this server mainly as build server...it's pretty secured by hosts.deny (no one except IPs from a certain ISP can connect) |
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| 18:34.18 | wols_ | zoddan: what videocard and what driver? |
| 18:34.27 | zoddan | wols_: Intel, intel |
| 18:34.50 | wols_ | zoddan: you don't have 3D acceleration enabled properly |
| 18:34.56 | gamag | hooo boyyy. it is 5 minutes past midnight and i am still awake. :-o |
| 18:34.57 | HardDisk_WP | jelly-home, i have in my home pc.libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb |
| 18:34.59 | zoddan | wols_: ok how do i enable it? |
| 18:35.08 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: install that one. |
| 18:35.10 | wols_ | zoddan: glxinfo needs to show "direct rendering" as true. |
| 18:35.11 | HardDisk_WP | i'll put this up via ftp in extracted...then cp... |
| 18:35.11 | gamag | I gotta sleep. everyone bye bye! bhow bhow! meow meow! |
| 18:35.15 | wols_ | zoddan: don't know. don't have intels |
| 18:35.21 | zoddan | wols_: "direct rendering: yes" |
| 18:35.51 | wols_ | zoddan: then maybe you need a newer driver. not sure |
| 18:35.58 | zoddan | ok.. |
| 18:36.03 | zoddan | im running testing so |
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| 18:36.13 | zoddan | installed from buisness iso |
| 18:36.25 | HardDisk_WP | how do I ftp upload a directory in recursive modeß |
| 18:36.32 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: you could ftp yourself a nice statically build shell like sash |
| 18:36.34 | wols_ | HardDisk_WP: client dependent |
| 18:36.55 | zoddan | seems to be a verr little knowledge about compiz :P |
| 18:36.56 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: or busybox or something |
| 18:36.56 | HardDisk_WP | jelly, bash still starts :) |
| 18:36.58 | zoddan | y |
| 18:37.01 | HardDisk_WP | only tar not |
| 18:37.09 | dynamitedj | wols_ this is the error message i get upon trying to remove http://paste.debian.net/44761 |
| 18:37.11 | HardDisk_WP | wols_, ftp command client |
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| 18:37.17 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: I'm confident you'll break your system again :-D |
| 18:37.30 | HardDisk_WP | it can't be worser after this that its now |
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| 18:37.46 | OlaX | zoddan: try "compiz --use-copy" |
| 18:37.47 | jelly-home | famous last words |
| 18:37.48 | imanex | ok the cd images for debian confuse me |
| 18:38.01 | imanex | what iso images do i need to install debian on my pc? |
| 18:38.04 | stew | HardDisk_WP: http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2007/12/msg00142.html <- it seems that your choices are to either run debian stable or get the provider to change kernels |
| 18:38.08 | imanex | so i need like all 20 of em? |
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| 18:38.25 | HardDisk_WP | oh noes... |
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| 18:38.34 | HardDisk_WP | stew, i'll write to my provider |
| 18:38.41 | HardDisk_WP | hopefully they will move their asses. |
| 18:38.43 | OlaX | imanex: does the target machine have an internet connection? |
| 18:38.49 | HardDisk_WP | they're not good in support |
| 18:38.52 | HardDisk_WP | but cheap |
| 18:38.59 | imanex | yer, but every time i wanna install i dun wanna hav 2 download shit |
| 18:39.04 | imanex | i have capped broadband |
| 18:39.04 | HardDisk_WP | brb, 2min, coffee |
| 18:39.07 | HardDisk_WP | need one |
| 18:39.09 | stew | HardDisk_WP: why do you run testing instead of stable? |
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| 18:39.14 | imanex | i just want to install and use debian |
| 18:39.19 | imanex | i can use apt for pkgs |
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| 18:39.34 | imanex | what is the best choice for me |
| 18:39.35 | imanex | ? |
| 18:40.15 | azeem | imanex: apt means download |
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| 18:40.32 | imanex | yer im cool with downloading individual packages i need |
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| 18:40.50 | HardDisk_WP | stew, more current packages?^^ |
| 18:40.50 | OlaX | imanex: perhaps you should use jigdo |
| 18:40.54 | imanex | but if i have to download the install, i wont have it to install again if something goes wrong |
| 18:41.01 | Ronin | or get the dvds |
| 18:41.01 | stew | HardDisk_WP: which packages do you need to be more current? |
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| 18:41.12 | zoddan | OlaX: ok |
| 18:41.27 | imanex | i wanna download the least amount of shit possible |
| 18:41.28 | HardDisk_WP | stew, I compile wine .debs on it, and because of that I have the packages on the vserver and on my desktop consistent |
| 18:41.35 | zoddan | OlaX: same error |
| 18:41.39 | PriceChild | !ohmy | imanex |
| 18:41.40 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: build them in a chroot. |
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| 18:41.48 | azeem | imanex: use the netinst then |
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| 18:41.49 | PriceChild | whoops wrong channel :P |
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| 18:41.55 | HardDisk_WP | jelly-home, you mean on the vserver or on the desktop pc? |
| 18:41.56 | imanex | so which image? |
| 18:42.05 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: on the machine where you build them |
| 18:42.08 | Ronin | imanex: then usenet install but you will have to dl off the net then when you go say apt-get install foo |
| 18:42.26 | HardDisk_WP | i'll try...but for now I'll look to get the system running again^^ |
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| 18:42.53 | dynamitedj | this is the error message i get upon trying to remove http://paste.debian.net/44761 |
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| 18:43.43 | imanex | so the netinstall will hav drivers for my ethernet card? and will download the stuff and only the stuff i require yer? |
| 18:43.52 | zoddan | anyway, does someone have any tip on how i can make gnome more "good looking" ? :) |
| 18:44.01 | azeem | imanex: I assume so, not knowing what ethernet card you have |
| 18:44.03 | Ronin | zoddan: define good looking |
| 18:44.04 | stew | imanex: which ethernet card do you have? |
| 18:44.12 | imanex | nforce 2 chipset |
| 18:44.15 | imanex | ummm |
| 18:44.26 | stew | imanex: yes |
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| 18:44.33 | imanex | yer |
| 18:44.34 | zoddan | Ronin: ok, more like high color icons and some flashy menues, like vista :P |
| 18:44.38 | imanex | sik |
| 18:44.43 | imanex | thanks for the help |
| 18:44.50 | imanex | i owe u all heddies |
| 18:44.52 | stew | jelly-home: a new libc6 in a chroot is going to be just as unhappy with that kernel |
| 18:44.58 | Ronin | zoddan: on purpose? theres all kinds of gnome themes you could look at |
| 18:45.00 | imanex | ill get my sister to do it |
| 18:45.24 | stew | imanex: please stop |
| 18:45.42 | HardDisk_WP | ls: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6: file too short |
| 18:45.46 | HardDisk_WP | fuuuuck |
| 18:45.53 | Seldaek | hello, I apt-get'd apache2 and php5, however php5 came with the 5.2.0 version and I wanted to upgrade it, so I tried to download the sources, compile it myself, but now apache can't find it, and I can't find the module_php5.so of my new build.. and well I'm quite new with linux.. so if anyone has an idea |
| 18:46.06 | stew | HardDisk_WP: what are you trying to do? |
| 18:46.15 | zoddan | Ronin: ok, any tip? |
| 18:46.31 | HardDisk_WP | stew, cp -R * / |
| 18:46.33 | Ronin | zoddan: look up gnome themes on google and go crazy |
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| 18:46.41 | zoddan | Ronin: he ok |
| 18:46.54 | zoddan | to bad i coulnt get compiz to run :( |
| 18:46.57 | stew | HardDisk_WP: what are you coyping there? |
| 18:47.03 | zoddan | would be nice |
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| 18:47.13 | HardDisk_WP | stew, the contents of the old libc package :X |
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| 18:47.37 | mick52 | !list |
| 18:47.37 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to mick52 |
| 18:47.43 | stew | HardDisk_WP: you can't run the old libc6 on testing |
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| 18:48.19 | HardDisk_WP | stew, the old testing libc6 |
| 18:48.25 | azeem | HardDisk_WP: why? |
| 18:48.31 | \amethyst | and if you want it to work as a pipe, change the exit 0 to cat :) |
| 18:48.32 | \amethyst | doh |
| 18:48.37 | HardDisk_WP | but while copying it failed: cp: cannot create regular file `/lib/ld-linux.so.2': Text file busy |
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| 18:48.56 | HardDisk_WP | azeem, because the damn kernel of my vserver hoster is too ancient for the new libc |
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| 18:49.20 | stew | azeem: he's running on a redhat kernel that doesn't work with libc6 2.6 or later, so he untarred libc6 2.3.6 into / and now his system is completely broken |
| 18:49.25 | HardDisk_WP | i'll now backup my Maildir and a bit of other stuff...then I'm free to break it even more |
| 18:49.26 | stmaher | Hello evyerone... How can i lower the ram.. using grub.. |
| 18:49.33 | stmaher | I have 3.5 gb of ram i want to put it to 1gb.. thanks |
| 18:49.35 | HardDisk_WP | stew, ah, the untarring of the old libc wasnt the problem |
| 18:49.36 | azeem | stew: uppermem |
| 18:49.36 | Ronin | stmaher: lower the ram? |
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| 18:49.48 | HardDisk_WP | the CP of the "old testing" libc6 had some failure |
| 18:49.49 | stmaher | Ronin, yeah.. I think its causing a problem with an E1 card |
| 18:50.04 | stew | HardDisk_WP: you untarred 2.3.6 onto / on a testing machine. that was a problem |
| 18:50.10 | jelly-home | stew: I know the new libc6 won't work in the chroot either, but it at least won't ruin the system |
| 18:50.11 | stew | azeem: eh? |
| 18:50.19 | azeem | eh |
| 18:50.25 | dynamitedj | can someone give me the link for sarge->etch again plz? |
| 18:50.25 | azeem | stmaher: uppermem |
| 18:50.28 | stmaher | thanks |
| 18:50.35 | stmaher | azeem, thanks |
| 18:50.56 | jelly-home | stew: more precisely, his kernel allows for glibc 2.6, but not 2.7 |
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| 18:51.15 | azeem | 2.6 but not 2.7= |
| 18:51.16 | azeem | ? |
| 18:51.21 | jelly-home | azeem: yup |
| 18:51.28 | azeem | what kernel is that? |
| 18:51.57 | sepski | stmaher, mem= details at point 3.3 on http://tldp.org/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO-3.html |
| 18:52.01 | themill | !tell dynamitedj about sarge->etch |
| 18:52.07 | dynamitedj | ty themill |
| 18:52.11 | themill | np |
| 18:52.13 | jelly-home | azeem: some vserver provider 2.6.9+stuff mostrosity |
| 18:52.29 | jelly-home | http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2007/12/msg00143.html |
| 18:53.03 | HardDisk_WP | god thanks ftp still works... |
| 18:53.10 | HardDisk_WP | unfortunately not as root :X |
| 18:53.22 | azeem | oh, O_CLOEXEC |
| 18:53.44 | stmaher | sepski, where do i put that in grub? |
| 18:55.06 | simonrvn | dynamitedj: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 18:55.15 | simonrvn | oh nm |
| 18:55.22 | HardDisk_WP | root@www:/lib# cat /home/marco/temp/lib/libc.so.6 > /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 18:55.22 | HardDisk_WP | cat: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6: file too short |
| 18:55.25 | HardDisk_WP | waargh. |
| 18:55.30 | HardDisk_WP | I hate this. |
| 18:55.41 | HardDisk_WP | Can I somehow override the libc6? |
| 18:55.48 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: this is why you _need_ a static shell when you mess with bits of libc |
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| 18:56.01 | psych | hi |
| 18:56.07 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: LD_PRELOAD=/home/marco/temp/lib/libc6.so.6 cp /home/marco/temp/lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 18:56.07 | sepski | stmaher, append line |
| 18:56.13 | xingu | err |
| 18:56.18 | psych | is there a way to install debian without a cd/usb ? |
| 18:56.18 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: LD_PRELOAD=/home/marco/temp/lib/libc.so.6 cp /home/marco/temp/lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 18:56.20 | xingu | rather |
| 18:56.29 | \amethyst | I would do rm then cp |
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| 18:56.46 | HardDisk_WP | root@www:/lib# LD_PRELOAD=/home/marco/temp/lib/libc.so.6 cp /home/marco/temp/lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 18:56.46 | HardDisk_WP | Segmentation fault |
| 18:56.52 | azeem | btw, libc.so.6 is a symlink usually |
| 18:57.04 | azeem | HardDisk_WP: I'd rather try to cat libc-2.*.so |
| 18:57.06 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: what is "cp" linked against? |
| 18:57.09 | sepski | psych, pxe ? floppy ? debootstrap from a different os, move the hd to a device that have cd/usb ? |
| 18:57.12 | azeem | HardDisk_WP: or just change the symlink |
| 18:57.14 | Ronin | psych: you can use goodbye-windows.com as well |
| 18:57.21 | sneex | what would be the command to determine which package installed apache2? I know apache2 is installed and working but apt-cache policy apache2 says it isn't installed. |
| 18:57.22 | HardDisk_WP | jelly-home, do you have a static linked shell? :) |
| 18:57.28 | jelly-home | HardDisk_WP: sash. |
| 18:57.32 | \amethyst | HardDisk_WP: busybox |
| 18:57.36 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: ie, is your cp binary linked against the same v. of libc6 as in temp/lib ? |
| 18:57.44 | psych | sepski, debootstrap, this sounds like what i need |
| 18:57.47 | dynamitedj | how do i know if i have the correct sources on my sources.list? and / or which one's should be on there |
| 18:57.54 | \amethyst | maybe rm /lib/libc.so.6; busybox cp /home/marco/temp/lib/libc.so.6 /lib |
| 18:57.55 | \amethyst | err |
| 18:58.00 | \amethyst | except on the link target |
| 18:58.05 | HardDisk_WP | xingu, i dunno... |
| 18:58.13 | h3sp4wn | HardDisk_WP: You can make a static version of busybox if you want (and it has a primitive dpkg with it even) |
| 18:58.26 | HardDisk_WP | xingu, its linked against libc-2.6.1.so |
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| 18:58.39 | HardDisk_WP | h3sp4wn, do you know off-hand how? never did that before |
| 18:58.42 | psych | goodbye-windows.com |
| 18:58.50 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: what's in temp/lib, versionwise? |
| 18:58.53 | psych | nice Ronin :) |
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| 18:58.59 | Ronin | dynamitedj: did you read the dpkg factoid? |
| 18:59.18 | \amethyst | HardDisk_WP: there's the "busybox-static" package |
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| 18:59.21 | HardDisk_WP | xingu, in temp/lib, there is libc6_2.6.1-1+b1_i386.deb |
| 18:59.28 | dynamitedj | did i read the what now? |
| 18:59.47 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: ok and you've extracted the contents of it there I gather? |
| 18:59.52 | Ronin | the sarge->etch as well as teh release notes that dpkg mentioned? |
| 19:00.02 | wols_ | dynamitedj: dpkg messaged you something if you followed simonrvn's suggestion |
| 19:00.07 | HardDisk_WP | xingu, yep |
| 19:00.23 | wols_ | !tell dynamitedj about sources.list |
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| 19:00.31 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: ... in which case; LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/marco/temp/lib cp --help |
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| 19:01.03 | HardDisk_WP | Segmentation fault |
| 19:01.16 | simonrvn | wheee |
| 19:01.18 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: try hash -r first |
| 19:01.39 | dynamitedj | yeah i read that ... all i wanna do is setup PHP on the server i don't wanna upgrade/downgrade or even wipe it ... it was working and now it's not :( |
| 19:01.42 | xingu | HardDisk_WP: ... then repeat |
| 19:02.06 | limpio | is the motherboard VIA C7 a good deal, works fine? |
| 19:02.07 | joaofpr | Hello people |
| 19:02.09 | HardDisk_WP | xingu, again |
| 19:02.42 | HardDisk_WP | yeah, the statically linked busybox sh works |
| 19:02.44 | HardDisk_WP | ok... |
| 19:02.46 | dynamitedj | i got rid of that dtc thing finally i added a new source and re-downloaded then installed and removed and voila now it's still not setting up php with apache2 |
| 19:03.30 | HardDisk_WP | YEAAAAAAAA |
| 19:03.34 | HardDisk_WP | for hell |
| 19:03.36 | HardDisk_WP | it works! |
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| 19:05.46 | HardDisk_WP | installing now the "old testing" libc 2.6.3 |
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| 19:06.41 | h3sp4wn | HardDisk_WP: But what happens when stuff starts needing 2.7 |
| 19:06.58 | HardDisk_WP | i think i'll have to downgrade that stuff... |
| 19:07.17 | h3sp4wn | HardDisk_WP: So you will stay on testing as it is now forever ? |
| 19:07.18 | HardDisk_WP | Oh. |
| 19:07.29 | HardDisk_WP | dpkg seems to be compiled against 2.7... |
| 19:07.31 | HardDisk_WP | oh noes |
| 19:07.58 | pablo26 | hi all i have a big issue, i have 7 servers based on nforce mcp55 pro chipset in the same network, and they have kernel panic all togheter, any ideas? |
| 19:08.07 | dynamitedj | wols_ i appreciate you trying to help me get onto etch but all i want is for php to work now it's saying php5 is installed but it's still trying to download the php files when i open the web browser i've restarted apache2 4 times now |
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| 19:08.15 | simonrvn | kernel or h/w problem |
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| 19:08.48 | wols_ | dynamitedj: your apache doesn't set the right mimetype for .php |
| 19:09.09 | pablo26 | i;ve tryied different network cards, i dont think the seven servers have issues and i get an MCE exeption |
| 19:09.14 | asBook | is there a way to remove ALL the gnome panels? |
| 19:09.19 | wols_ | dynamitedj: and when you doN#t fix the problem now, it IWLL bite you in your ass hard again |
| 19:09.40 | dynamitedj | ok thank you, is there a site i can visit to help me set this up as i understand you guys are very busy and i have taken enough of your time |
| 19:09.55 | \amethyst | asBook: in gnome-session-properties, remove te entry for the panel ? |
| 19:10.13 | asBook | hm |
| 19:10.15 | asBook | ok |
| 19:10.20 | \amethyst | asBook: Also, can't you right click and "Delete this panel", or does it not let you do that on the last one? |
| 19:10.22 | simonrvn | pablo26: same kernel on all of them? identical peripherals, etc? |
| 19:10.36 | asBook | not on the lastone |
| 19:10.39 | \amethyst | ah |
| 19:10.41 | pablo26 | 2.6.18 the orginal from debian, to test i've changed to 2.6.22 |
| 19:10.55 | simonrvn | like i said, kernel or h/w problem |
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| 19:11.07 | GiabboO | hi all :) |
| 19:11.14 | pablo26 | the hardware is almost the same 2 of them have a raid controller the rest is the same |
| 19:11.17 | asBook | ok |
| 19:11.18 | asBook | thx |
| 19:11.21 | asBook | its gone |
| 19:11.22 | asBook | ;) |
| 19:11.36 | wols_ | pablo26: they all have their kernel oops at the exact same time? |
| 19:11.40 | asBook | oh |
| 19:11.49 | wols_ | !enter asBook |
| 19:11.50 | asBook | but now i cant use alt f2 anymore |
| 19:12.24 | HardDisk_WP | xingu, jelly-home, h3sp4wn, azeem, stew: stuff works again...many many thanks! |
| 19:12.25 | pablo26 | not exaclty at the same time, but when one of them dies the rest also do in less than one hour |
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| 19:14.24 | pablo26 | at the begining we thought that the issue was with the network card but with another brand the same issue |
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| 19:16.49 | pablo26 | to reduce the issues we reduced the numbers of apps and network load running |
| 19:17.25 | pablo26 | and with a stress tool we can reproduce the issue in less than 2hours |
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| 19:21.21 | muszek | is it possible to use find (cli utility) to look for directories only? |
| 19:21.35 | hoxu | muszek, yes, the manual page tells you how |
| 19:21.35 | h3sp4wn | muszek: -type d |
| 19:21.55 | h3sp4wn | muszek: perhaps you want -maxdepth also |
| 19:21.55 | muszek | h3sp4wn: thanks; hoxu: I must have missed that... |
| 19:22.35 | hoxu | muszek, just use find (/directory) and n/N to go through :P |
| 19:22.51 | hoxu | at least if your pager is less |
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| 19:23.33 | insomninja | is it correct to assume that /dev/hd[a] refers to a disk and /dev/hd[a][1] refers to a partition? |
| 19:24.02 | OlaX | insomninja: That is a safe assumption |
| 19:24.13 | netgear | wols_, abrotman i have a new idea to help me with my repository |
| 19:24.39 | hoxu | insomninja, unless you have an evil sysadmin :P |
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| 19:25.11 | muszek | could someone please help me create a command or script that would "remove all apostrophes from all directories in a given path?". depth is 1 |
| 19:25.18 | netgear | cant i do this: scan iso's and list pacakages and then compare to my internet repository and let script copy matches to /var/cache/apt |
| 19:25.25 | \amethyst | netgear: remove them from the filenames? |
| 19:25.48 | netgear | \amethyst, how do you mean? |
| 19:25.58 | \amethyst | netgear: what do you mean by "remove all apostrophes"? |
| 19:26.09 | muszek | my dad has jukeboxes that have a really crappy media player - apparently it "half-freezes" when a song from a apostrophed directory is selected for playing |
| 19:26.14 | netgear | wasnt me \amethyst |
| 19:26.15 | OlaX | muszek: the command you want is "prename", it lets you rename files regular expressions. Be careful with it. |
| 19:26.17 | \amethyst | doh |
| 19:26.20 | netgear | was muszek |
| 19:26.21 | insomninja | the reason I ask is that when I run ls /dev/hd* both hdc2 and hdd2 shows up of which neither can be mouned |
| 19:26.23 | \amethyst | stupid nick complete |
| 19:26.24 | insomninja | gah |
| 19:26.38 | insomninja | *mounted nor shows up in cfdisk |
| 19:26.56 | insomninja | stupid enter key |
| 19:26.56 | muszek | Olax: thanks, I'll look into it |
| 19:27.35 | abrotman | netgear: ? |
| 19:27.57 | netgear | abrotman, didnt you see what i had suggested? |
| 19:28.05 | netgear | cant i do this: scan iso's and list pacakages and then compare to my internet repository and let script copy matches to /var/cache/apt |
| 19:28.07 | abrotman | netgear: i think you're making this way harder than it has to be :) |
| 19:28.30 | netgear | abrotman, understand that i pay alot for internet and dont want to download unneccessary |
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| 19:29.08 | insomninja | oh by the way, I'm the sysadmin at that particular computer |
| 19:29.59 | HardDisk_WP | how do I make a package (libc6*) being ignored in upgrade? |
| 19:30.06 | abrotman | netgear: but apt already knows what is on the CDs |
| 19:30.29 | abrotman | netgear: and if you never clean your apt cache .. the downloaded pacakges would stay there |
| 19:31.00 | abrotman | netgear: and if you choose .. you can periodically burn those to a CD |
| 19:31.16 | netgear | ok |
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| 19:33.21 | HardDisk_WP | stew, still around? |
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| 19:34.42 | insomninja | hmm, cfdisk -P s seems to think they are extended partitions |
| 19:35.34 | OlaX | insomninja: do they exist in /proc/partitions ? |
| 19:35.49 | insomninja | yes |
| 19:35.50 | netgear | abrotman, does apt cache wipe old packages if new ones is downloaded or not? |
| 19:35.55 | SerajewelKS | is there a way to type an opening question mark (the upside down one) without copying and pasting from gucharmap? |
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| 19:36.20 | SerajewelKS | i have it set up where i can type accented characters (á, à , ñ, etc) this way |
| 19:36.23 | insomninja | altgr+shift+? |
| 19:36.32 | martoss | hi all, if i mount an ext3 partition in /tmp is there a proper way to set permissions properly on mount (1777)? |
| 19:36.35 | fasta | SerajewelKS: I know Gnome offers a way to input unicode. |
| 19:36.38 | SerajewelKS | insomninja: i've tried that |
| 19:36.40 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: compose ? ? |
| 19:36.53 | fasta | SerajewelKS: some search engine should show you that. |
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| 19:36.57 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: that outputs ?? |
| 19:37.03 | SerajewelKS | fasta: i have tried that |
| 19:37.09 | SerajewelKS | none of the methods i've found work |
| 19:37.10 | \amethyst | you have compose key set up? |
| 19:37.11 | fasta | SerajewelKS: and you didn't find anything? |
| 19:37.28 | hoxu | martoss, hum, why do you need to set them every time? Just set them once after mount? |
| 19:37.29 | fasta | SerajewelKS: arbitrary unicode input should be enough, right? |
| 19:37.34 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: yes, for example, rightalt + ' follow by a yields á |
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| 19:37.54 | SerajewelKS | rightalt + ` followed by a yields à |
| 19:37.58 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: that sounds like deadkeys not compose |
| 19:38.13 | martoss | hoxu, yepp atm i have it in the rc.local, they are compute nodes of a cluster, so reboots can happen :-) |
| 19:38.20 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: i'm not sure what the difference is |
| 19:38.22 | OlaX | insomninja: what does "file -s /dev/your_mystery_partition" say? |
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| 19:38.38 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: You press AltGr and ` at the same time? |
| 19:38.45 | SerajewelKS | yes |
| 19:38.49 | SerajewelKS | then the letter |
| 19:38.51 | hoxu | martoss, not my point... I mean, those permissions should persist, no? |
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| 19:39.22 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: Then probably AltGr+` is mapped to dead_grave, which reads one character and puts a grave over it if possible |
| 19:39.46 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: Compose is a single key that reads two characters and puts them together... it can handle more things than just dead-acceent keys |
| 19:39.51 | abrotman | netgear: no |
| 19:39.57 | martoss | hoxu, no after reboot they're gone. |
| 19:40.06 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: I use (in my xorg.conf) Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin" |
| 19:40.10 | hoxu | martoss, after you mount the partition? |
| 19:40.17 | martoss | yepp |
| 19:40.22 | hoxu | ehh |
| 19:40.34 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: So I can press for example rightwindow ? ? for ¿, rightwindow o s for §, etc |
| 19:40.48 | martoss | hoxu, only option is noatime... |
| 19:40.49 | fasta | \amethyst: can you do arbitrary unicode input via the compose mechanism? |
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| 19:41.08 | \amethyst | fasta: only what's in the compose map |
| 19:41.40 | insomninja | OlaX, /dev/hdd2: x86 boot sector: partition 1: ID=0x82, starthead 254, startsector 63, 3020157 sectors, extended partition table (last)\011 |
| 19:41.54 | insomninja | so... extended partition? |
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| 19:41.55 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: hmm |
| 19:42.10 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: i thought i checked in the keyboard prefs "rightalt is compose" |
| 19:42.21 | SerajewelKS | problem is i can't open the keyboard prefs anymore |
| 19:42.25 | OlaX | insomninja: Looks like it is. No wonder you couldn't mount it. |
| 19:42.28 | hoxu | martoss, I don't honestly know why those permissions wouldn't persist, maybe something is changing them? |
| 19:42.39 | SerajewelKS | it segfaults |
| 19:43.00 | insomninja | shouldnt I be able to tell if there are any partitions inside it? |
| 19:43.08 | martoss | well, i change them on every boot with chmod 1777 /tmp |
| 19:43.16 | martoss | otherwise its 755 |
| 19:43.21 | insomninja | with cfdisk as an example |
| 19:44.18 | hoxu | martoss, did you actually try mounting, setting the permissions, unmounting, mounting and checking the permissions, without reboot? |
| 19:44.28 | fasta | SerajewelKS: I found a website for utf-8 input that works in Gnome. |
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| 19:44.34 | fasta | SerajewelKS: is that enough for you? |
| 19:44.36 | insomninja | unless it's empty of course, but that wouldn't be like me... |
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| 19:45.18 | martoss | hoxu, nope one word to say is that the mountpoint /tmp is shared via nfs (writeable) |
| 19:45.27 | OlaX | insomninja: Yes, if there are any, you should see them with cfdisk (though I prefer parted). You should also see any detected partitions on present block devices in /proc/partitions . |
| 19:46.04 | hoxu | martoss, no clue then, but something apparently is tampering with the permissions, so maybe you should look there |
| 19:46.19 | SerajewelKS | fasta: actually right now i'm using the paste method :) |
| 19:46.26 | SerajewelKS | since this is due in 10 minutes |
| 19:46.44 | martoss | hoxu, as you said, permissions are fine after remount, have to double check permissions on boot. |
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| 19:47.29 | fasta | SerajewelKS: http://doc.infosnel.nl/utf-8_symbols.html was the url, anyway. |
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| 19:48.27 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: got it |
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| 19:48.42 | antixogh | I have electricsheep 2.6.8-5 (downgraded from 2.6.8-8 because it would work for me either) installed. when I run it it doesn't do anything no error message, no flickering screen, nothing. the system monitor just says it's sleeping 0 cpu usage so on. I have read I lot of stuff and nothing seems to help, anyone have any ideas? |
| 19:48.48 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: updated gnome-control-center to unstable since the 2.18 one was segfaulting and turned rightalt into compose and now it works |
| 19:48.53 | antixogh | sorry for the long message |
| 19:49.01 | abrotman | !bts |
| 19:49.01 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of sid and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for sid and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges . |
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| 19:49.47 | insomninja | cfdisk -P s only shows row 1,2,5 but -P t adds row 3 and 4 -but all values are set to zero (head=0 start sector=0 etc...) |
| 19:50.07 | Kurin- | Is there a way to use apt-get to install a program but *not* to run the interactive config? |
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| 19:50.25 | abrotman | you can set your debconf priority .. but it still might ask you questions |
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| 19:50.42 | abrotman | @wb stew |
| 19:50.43 | ravenbird | Welcome back stew, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of cheese. |
| 19:50.47 | abrotman | ewww |
| 19:50.54 | stew | freaken DoS again |
| 19:51.06 | abrotman | like the same guy from months ago? |
| 19:51.11 | insomninja | I would guess that this means that the extended partition is empty? |
| 19:51.17 | stew | abrotman: no this is something new |
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| 19:52.24 | stew | abrotman: a site we host start attracting all kinds of spam on their forums, once we closed it down, they just started going nuts on the site |
| 19:52.32 | OlaX | insomninja: do you have hdd5? |
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| 19:53.29 | abrotman | stew: oh .. taht thing .. rcox told me about that when you guys were bouncing all the time |
| 19:54.17 | insomninja | hdd5 is swap |
| 19:54.28 | abrotman | stew: i assume botnet garbage? |
| 19:54.28 | stew | abrotman: yeah, we thought we had it under control, it hadn't happened in a while. as a bunus, yesterday an xbox 360 showed up as an apology from the site owner |
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| 19:54.49 | abrotman | stew: waht? no PS3? i'd shut down all his stuff |
| 19:54.51 | OlaX | insomninja: hdd2 is not empty, it contains hdd5. |
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| 19:55.19 | stew | abrotman: yeah, all the sudden apache POSTs come in from hundreds of hosts at the same time, i have most of .pl .ro .ru .cx -j DROPed now |
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| 19:55.47 | abrotman | useless countries anyways! |
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| 19:56.34 | stew | actually one of my sponsors is from .pl |
| 19:56.41 | abrotman | i was kidding |
| 19:56.43 | stew | but we do everything via alioth now |
| 19:56.49 | insomninja | OlaX, now that you mention it they share most values from cfdisk -P t |
| 19:56.52 | abrotman | the only thing i've known to be from .pl was raf256 :) |
| 19:56.59 | Ronin | ewww |
| 19:57.09 | h3sp4wn | abrotman: What is wrong with .cx ? I always presumed you was a goatse type person |
| 19:57.11 | stew | and now he's from .ch |
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| 19:58.24 | abrotman | h3sp4wn: ah .. no |
| 19:58.39 | stew | i had written some portknock rules to let me take down services remotely when this happens, but unfortunately i had set it up to kill apache not apache2 :) |
| 19:59.02 | OlaX | insomninja: When a primary partition is used to house logical partitions, it is called an extended partition. In your case, hdd2 is an extended partition and hdd5 is a logical partition contained by hdd2. So no, it's not empty. |
| 19:59.20 | abrotman | stew: DOH! |
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| 20:00.29 | stew | and now i write new fail2ban rules for new POSTs |
| 20:00.39 | abrotman | that's not a bad plan at all |
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| 20:01.24 | insomninja | OlaX, what would rows three and four (all values set to zero) mean then? are they traces of deleted partitions or just some sort of padding? |
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| 20:09.05 | eternalswd | I have a headless server up. I have a php script that I want to run once I am able to login via ssh (the php script sends me an email telling me I can log in). I'm stumped as to how to run it. |
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| 20:11.03 | xingu | eternalswd: crontab(5): @reboot |
| 20:12.18 | antixogh | is gnome-screensaver a folk of XScreenSaver? |
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| 20:12.34 | jakub_ | hi |
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| 20:12.38 | jakub_ | please i have problem in game ET |
| 20:12.43 | jakub_ | if it starting, it write this: ...loading libGL.so.1: QGL_Init: dlopen libGL.so.1 failed: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 20:13.01 | jakub_ | i have nvidia card, i tried to reinstall drivers and rebuild modules |
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| 20:15.23 | gener1c | say does anyone earase the old kernels he had after each apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 20:15.34 | gener1c | erase |
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| 20:15.58 | h3sp4wn | gener1c: usually sensible to keep 2 at least |
| 20:16.11 | gener1c | yeah but i have like 10 now |
| 20:16.14 | jeremy_c | Anyone have any tips on making my debian exim4 work w/TLS and outlook clients? It works great w/TLS using Thunderbird. |
| 20:16.18 | gener1c | and i have no clue how to get rid of some |
| 20:16.24 | gener1c | it takes up space |
| 20:16.30 | h3sp4wn | gener1c: aptitude search linux-image~i |
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| 20:16.59 | Airbottle | hey, can someone help me? i want to use cron to start rtorrent every night at 1.00h and i want rtorrent to stop at 9.00h how can i achieve this? |
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| 20:17.01 | jeremy_c | It appears as though the Outlook client is not even trying to login, but it's setup correctly. It's something on the mail server making it think it can't login or something. |
| 20:17.06 | netgear | i compiled pidgin from source - now i used make distclean to remove it but it doesnt, how does one remove this? |
| 20:17.25 | gener1c | now i just rm? |
| 20:17.43 | gener1c | ah aptitude-uninstall |
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| 20:18.12 | Airbottle | 00 1 * * * david /home/david/Desktop/rtorrent_start i put this in crontab |
| 20:18.20 | Airbottle | but nothing happens |
| 20:18.22 | netgear | gener1c, i compiled from source not package |
| 20:18.41 | h3sp4wn | gener1c: then use - something like - aptitude purge linux-image\~i\~n\!18-5 |
| 20:18.52 | netgear | ah nm |
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| 20:19.14 | h3sp4wn | gener1c: (fix the last part of the regexp to keep the ones you want) |
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| 20:19.26 | gener1c | :D |
| 20:19.35 | gener1c | thanks alot mate |
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| 20:22.17 | gener1c | man its removing alot of stuff |
| 20:22.27 | gener1c | Removing gnome-games ... |
| 20:22.28 | gener1c | Removing gnome-games-data ... |
| 20:22.32 | gener1c | i wonder... |
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| 20:28.03 | jakub_ | dpkg-divert: `diversion of /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.ia32-libs by nvidia-glx-ia32' clashes with `diversion of /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.ia32-libs by nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32' |
| 20:28.03 | jakub_ | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx-ia32_100.14.19-1_amd64.deb (--unpack): |
| 20:28.03 | jakub_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.03 | dpkg | That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster. |
| 20:28.13 | jakub_ | sorry |
| 20:28.16 | jakub_ | my fault |
| 20:28.24 | jakub_ | but what is it please ? |
| 20:28.48 | SamuraiDio | how can i install mplayer for x86 on my amd64? |
| 20:29.00 | jakub_ | SamuraiDio: apt-get install mplayer |
| 20:29.29 | SamuraiDio | jakub_, this will install the 64 bits version |
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| 20:29.59 | jakub_ | why do you need x86 ? |
| 20:30.13 | SamuraiDio | i want the w32codecs package |
| 20:30.21 | jakub_ | hm |
| 20:30.25 | jakub_ | i ahve it on amd64 |
| 20:30.32 | SamuraiDio | ohh. how? |
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| 20:31.03 | Tramp | Cool. Ubuntu-Devs managed to link /sbin/cryptsetup against libraries in /usr/lib. |
| 20:31.35 | jakub_ | i dunno |
| 20:31.40 | netgear | what group does a normal user belong to user or users in debian? |
| 20:31.44 | jakub_ | i upgrading my mplayer and this tools for 1 year |
| 20:31.46 | jakub_ | now it works fine |
| 20:31.49 | jakub_ | but please |
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| 20:31.51 | jakub_ | how to fix dpkg-divert |
| 20:31.57 | Shizen | jakub_: installing mplayer now... |
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| 20:32.06 | Shizen | it can handle vobsub and such, yes ? |
| 20:32.08 | jakub_ | Shizen: and then gstreamer |
| 20:32.13 | jakub_ | i think yes |
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| 20:32.16 | jakub_ | i have only gstreamer |
| 20:32.19 | Shizen | gstreamer's already in, I think |
| 20:32.20 | jakub_ | and it play everything |
| 20:32.24 | stew | netgear: neither |
| 20:32.24 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 20:32.31 | SamuraiDio | jakub_, can i help me? |
| 20:32.36 | Shizen | ...lol |
| 20:32.51 | netgear | stew, which is it then? |
| 20:33.02 | stew | netgear: debian includes a group named "users" and not "user" if that is what you are asking. |
| 20:33.06 | Shizen | hmmm now where's gstreamer... |
| 20:33.18 | stew | netgear: but if you are just running "adduser somebody" somebody isn't going to be a member of users |
| 20:33.24 | jakub_ | i dont have w32codecs |
| 20:33.30 | jakub_ | and i play all films and others |
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| 20:33.43 | SamuraiDio | jakub_, but not rmvb |
| 20:33.48 | jakub_ | rmvb ? |
| 20:33.50 | jakub_ | wtf ? |
| 20:33.50 | SamuraiDio | jakub_, real media |
| 20:33.55 | netgear | yes users, so if i want to make user the owner of dir test i will do chown user:users test -R |
| 20:33.57 | jakub_ | yes it too |
| 20:34.06 | jakub_ | .ram |
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| 20:34.08 | SamuraiDio | jakub_, on mplayer? |
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| 20:34.11 | jakub_ | bbc radio 1 |
| 20:34.12 | jakub_ | yes |
| 20:34.19 | SamuraiDio | jakub_, how do you do it? |
| 20:34.20 | anirban | Hi how can I set per user apache web server directory in lenny |
| 20:34.23 | jakub_ | i dunno |
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| 20:34.40 | \amethyst | anirban: a2enmod userdir |
| 20:34.43 | jakub_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.47 | jakub_ | it will play radio 1 |
| 20:34.49 | anirban | I googled and got that I need mod_userdir for apache |
| 20:34.50 | \amethyst | anirban: that will enable the default ~/public_html/ |
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| 20:35.30 | stew | netgear: that will make it owned by user and owned by the 'users' group, yes. however it is likely that the "users" group doesn't have any members |
| 20:35.35 | SamuraiDio | jakub_, but did you installed some lib to play real media? |
| 20:35.51 | jakub_ | no |
| 20:35.53 | jakub_ | gstreamer play it |
| 20:36.05 | thelostbutler | hello folks, i am trying to setup single sign on for a bunch of servers using kerb+ssh. i am not clear on how to go about the ssh config. would appreciate any pointers to decent docs (howto?) on getting to work on etch |
| 20:36.11 | SamuraiDio | ahh |
| 20:36.13 | anirban | but did not get any mod_userdir for lenny |
| 20:36.20 | jakub_ | and if you have problem |
| 20:36.23 | jakub_ | install real player |
| 20:36.30 | SamuraiDio | jakub_, do you think gstreamer better than xine? |
| 20:36.33 | anirban | amethyst what is a2enmod |
| 20:36.35 | netgear | stew, i added a user with installer, what group will that user be part of then? |
| 20:36.36 | jakub_ | sure :) |
| 20:36.42 | netgear | or where can i check this? |
| 20:36.43 | jakub_ | gstreamer is the best |
| 20:36.45 | \amethyst | anirban: it is a Debian script to enable an apache2 module |
| 20:36.50 | dondelelcaro | netgear: run id as that user; |
| 20:36.59 | stew | netgear: run "groups username" |
| 20:37.08 | anirban | okay |
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| 20:37.20 | \amethyst | anirban: debian's apache2 comes with mod_userdir but it's not enabled by default. a2enmod enables it (by setting up a symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled) |
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| 20:37.22 | netgear | user |
| 20:37.24 | netgear | not users |
| 20:37.44 | anirban | okay |
| 20:37.48 | anirban | I got it now |
| 20:38.00 | \amethyst | anirban: You can see what modules are available to be enabled by looking in /etc/apache2/mods-available |
| 20:38.12 | stew | netgear: yes, but by default debian doesn't have a group named "user". it has one named "users". when you create a new user with name "foo" it also creates a group named "foo" by default |
| 20:38.24 | netgear | oh ok |
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| 20:38.41 | dsl773 | can you give me a quick command to delete everything on a hardrive please? (rm /mnt/hda1/*/*) or something??? |
| 20:38.58 | netgear | rm -rf * |
| 20:39.05 | \amethyst | err |
| 20:39.07 | abrotman | not quite |
| 20:39.14 | dsl773 | hehe |
| 20:39.15 | \amethyst | dsl773: is the hard drive mounted? |
| 20:39.18 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | badblocks -swn |
| 20:39.21 | dsl773 | yes |
| 20:39.51 | netgear | dsl773, caught with porn? |
| 20:39.54 | anirban | thanks a lot amethyst |
| 20:39.59 | anirban | it is working now |
| 20:40.04 | jakub_ | please |
| 20:40.09 | jakub_ | i need to install The package without depencies |
| 20:40.11 | jakub_ | i neeed it, how ? |
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| 20:40.18 | Shizen | hmmmm |
| 20:40.20 | anirban | just now need to edit the apache2.conf |
| 20:40.32 | dsl773 | no, just downgrading to damnsmalllinux and deleting another os, that's using the whole hdd |
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| 20:41.06 | stew | anirban: in general you should avoid editing apache2.conf. what exactly where you going to change in there? |
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| 20:41.44 | hatoon | alguem aqui fala português |
| 20:41.46 | drwahl | when my computer idles for some time (about 30 min.) Xorg stops responding. i ssh'ed in from another computer and it looks like Xorg is using 100% cpu. any ideas to fix this? |
| 20:41.51 | \amethyst | anirban: if you want to change the userdir settings, probably edit /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf |
| 20:41.56 | stew | !br |
| 20:41.57 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 20:42.06 | anirban | okay |
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| 20:42.30 | dsl773 | should i use dd? how? (i only know dd if /dev/zero... thingee, but that's different to this i think) |
| 20:42.38 | ks_laptop | how do I an alias in debian ? |
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| 20:42.49 | stew | ks_laptop: what do you mean by alias? |
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| 20:43.01 | ks_laptop | in fedora I used bash profile |
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| 20:43.08 | abrotman | you can do that in debian |
| 20:43.13 | abrotman | dsl773: /msg dpkg dban |
| 20:43.15 | limpio | hatoon: um poco, usa o canal #debian-pr ou #debian-br |
| 20:43.19 | ks_laptop | stew alias ll=ls -al |
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| 20:43.38 | abrotman | limpio: #debian-pt or #debian-br i'd think ? |
| 20:43.44 | stew | ks_laptop: edit ~/.bashrc |
| 20:44.01 | stew | ks_laptop: in fact, you'll find that alias in there, waiting for you to uncomment |
| 20:44.01 | ks_laptop | stew no such file |
| 20:44.11 | limpio | abrotman, debian-pr is in Paraná,Brazil |
| 20:44.16 | ks_laptop | should recreate it ? |
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| 20:44.38 | anirban | okay so in debain I have to edit the module.conf files inside mod-enables |
| 20:44.40 | ks_laptop | stew yeah i've met some debian distro where it is commented |
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| 20:44.54 | anirban | instead of directly editing apache2.conf |
| 20:45.19 | stew | ks_laptop: if you deleted your .bashrc you could get a new version from /etc/skel i suppose, but its odd that you don't have that file |
| 20:45.21 | drwahl | when my computer idles for some time (about 30 min.) Xorg stops responding. i ssh'ed in from another computer and it looks like Xorg is using 100% cpu. any ideas to fix this? |
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| 20:45.36 | abrotman | limpio: ah ok |
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| 20:45.55 | rox | does anybody know how i can figure out whether fc-cache is stuck or not? i have loads of fonts installed and fc-cache has been running for about 20 minutes using one whole processor |
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| 20:46.03 | jakub_ | DAMMIT |
| 20:46.05 | dsl773 | eek, i just did rm -irf /mnt/hda1/* |
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| 20:46.08 | jakub_ | please how to install nvidia-glx-ia32 |
| 20:46.15 | jakub_ | it says me some problems with depencies |
| 20:46.16 | jakub_ | :( |
| 20:46.21 | ks_laptop | stew thanks |
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| 20:46.24 | suppaman | hello |
| 20:46.33 | dsl773 | does that look cool to you? |
| 20:46.38 | suppaman | how nice is it when after upgrading you system doesn't boot anymore ? |
| 20:46.38 | dsl773 | um? |
| 20:46.46 | dsl773 | ouch dude! |
| 20:46.55 | lukas | Hi, I have quite offtopic question, could anyone help with privacy lists in gajim or another jabber client? |
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| 20:47.22 | \amethyst | dsl773: the -i is pointless since -f overrides it |
| 20:47.33 | suppaman | it seems it cannot find anymore the root fs |
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| 20:47.52 | \amethyst | dsl773: (whichever is specified last controls) |
| 20:48.08 | \amethyst | dsl773: Also, that won't remove any dotfiles in the root directory, not that they're likely to exist |
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| 20:48.15 | Shizen | hmmmm |
| 20:48.17 | dsl773 | sweet /amethyst, and it's working right? it'll just take a long time right? (i can't see any activity in the shell screen) |
| 20:48.45 | \amethyst | dsl773: better would be rm -rf /mnt/hda1 (which will give an error at the end because it can't remove the mountpoint itself; but everything else will be gone) |
| 20:48.59 | Shizen | amethyst: I've enabled .bash-aliases inside .bashrc |
| 20:49.04 | Shizen | but it seems to take no effect :o |
| 20:49.15 | \amethyst | dsl773: you can use -v if you want to print the filenames as they're being deleted |
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| 20:50.10 | dsl773 | \amethyst "no thats' fine, I just wanted the space that the files were taking up, so now I can install smalllinux and make it debian(small) |
| 20:50.17 | dsl773 | you know? |
| 20:51.19 | \amethyst | it probably would have been easier to just re-make the filesystem |
| 20:51.25 | dsl773 | (i'm back at the # and emel.fm shows nothing there > so it's great) ThAnX |
| 20:51.51 | Shizen | wow |
| 20:51.52 | dsl773 | \amethyst, I couldn't fdisk though |
| 20:51.53 | Shizen | I'm stupid >_> |
| 20:52.01 | suppaman | I'm stuck at a sh in initramfs |
| 20:52.02 | dsl773 | me2, me3 |
| 20:52.18 | suppaman | how can I check what the root option for the kernel was ? |
| 20:52.32 | dsl773 | back later |
| 20:52.36 | dsl773 | thanx |
| 20:52.47 | \amethyst | suppaman: cat /proc/cmdline |
| 20:52.59 | \amethyst | you might need to mount /proc if it isn't already |
| 20:53.01 | suppaman | thanks |
| 20:53.17 | suppaman | I tought /proc wasn't available in safe mode :-p |
| 20:53.24 | jakub_ | please |
| 20:53.25 | suppaman | root=302 |
| 20:53.26 | jakub_ | help me |
| 20:53.29 | jakub_ | dpkg-divert: `diversion of /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.ia32-libs by nvidia-glx-ia32' clashes with `diversion of /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.ia32-libs by nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32' |
| 20:53.37 | jakub_ | w t f |
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| 20:53.54 | \amethyst | jakub_: you can't have both the nvidia and nvidia legacy drivers installed at the same time |
| 20:54.04 | jakub_ | i dont have legacy drivers |
| 20:54.07 | jakub_ | they are all removed |
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| 20:54.47 | \amethyst | jakub_: then it sounds like their removal script script didn't remove the diversion |
| 20:54.58 | jakub_ | yes |
| 20:55.01 | jakub_ | how to fix it ? |
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| 20:55.08 | \amethyst | jakub_: just to be sure, what does dpkg -l nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32 say? |
| 20:55.10 | suppaman | what does 302 mean? I mean is that a code for the partition or what ? |
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| 20:55.37 | jakub_ | Failed-=config half-installed |
| 20:55.49 | jakub_ | aha |
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| 20:55.57 | jakub_ | how to delete it |
| 20:56.15 | \amethyst | suppaman: 0302 means hda2 I believe |
| 20:56.31 | suppaman | mm that should be fine |
| 20:56.35 | suppaman | oh wait I'm using xfs |
| 20:56.38 | \amethyst | jakub_: apt-get remove nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32 |
| 20:56.41 | suppaman | maybe that's the prob |
| 20:56.45 | jakub_ | it dont works |
| 20:56.51 | jakub_ | it says i dont have it installed |
| 20:57.18 | jakub_ | aha |
| 20:57.19 | jakub_ | wait |
| 20:57.23 | jakub_ | i read it wrong from the table |
| 20:57.29 | jakub_ | in nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32 <none> (no description available) |
| 20:57.43 | Shizen | hmmm... need better irc client |
| 20:57.46 | jakub_ | maybe install script dont remove it |
| 20:57.47 | Shizen | suggestion ? |
| 20:57.48 | suppaman | I can't get what program to use to partition the disk, I was used to cfdisk but it's lacking in the ramdisk |
| 20:57.53 | suppaman | I shouldn't have dist-upgraded |
| 20:58.09 | \amethyst | jakub_: it's not installed, but marked for installation |
| 20:58.13 | jakub_ | no |
| 20:58.20 | suppaman | weird is that "dmesg | grep hd" gives no output |
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| 20:59.07 | suppaman | I mean if the kernel can't see hd* devices how can it access the root fs ? |
| 20:59.21 | aleksanteri | ask it |
| 20:59.23 | aleksanteri | :> |
| 20:59.23 | \amethyst | jakub_: try thing: aptitude install nvidia-glx-ia32 nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32_ (not the _ at the end) |
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| 20:59.42 | \amethyst | jakub_: that tells it to install the nvidia driver and purge the legacy driver |
| 20:59.50 | \amethyst | s/thing/this/ |
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| 21:00.20 | \amethyst | suppaman: what about dmesg | grep sd ? |
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| 21:00.35 | suppaman | nothing |
| 21:00.45 | dsl1129 | heya all, I'm back |
| 21:01.03 | kshaw|work | will someone please tell me how to turn off acpi when booting debian |
| 21:01.25 | dsl1129 | I'm stuck now because I don't have anything in my grub/menu.lst what should I put there? |
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| 21:01.27 | \amethyst | suppaman: anything hard-drive-like in /sys/block ? |
| 21:01.32 | suppaman | let me explain: this debian has been there for years, it wasa on testing, today I did a dist-upgrade |
| 21:01.44 | suppaman | \amethyst: checking |
| 21:01.45 | \amethyst | suppaman: (like /proc, you might have to mount /sys if it isn't already) |
| 21:01.46 | jakub_ | unmet depencies |
| 21:02.02 | jakub_ | nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32: Depends: nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-71.86.01 which is a virtual package. |
| 21:02.10 | suppaman | both /proc and /sys got mounted on start |
| 21:02.14 | \amethyst | jakub_: did you include the underscore at the end? |
| 21:02.23 | \amethyst | jakub_: aptitude install nvidia-glx-ia32 nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32_ |
| 21:02.38 | kshaw|work | acpi=off? |
| 21:02.41 | suppaman | and my kb layout isn't us, damn... |
| 21:03.03 | jakub_ | A package failed to install. Trying to recover: |
| 21:03.06 | suppaman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:03.08 | jakub_ | still diversion |
| 21:03.45 | suppaman | it's like the new kernel doesn't know how to handle the chipset |
| 21:03.46 | \amethyst | jakub_: put the entire output of that command in a pastebin |
| 21:03.54 | ks_laptop | how do I delete old logs if i have following setup for logrotate {daily compress rotate 30} ? |
| 21:04.08 | abrotman | change the rotate number |
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| 21:04.14 | suppaman | btw what could I use to alter the partition table ? |
| 21:04.17 | ks_laptop | or are those deleted automatically ? |
| 21:04.23 | suppaman | no cfdisk, no fdisk, no pdisk |
| 21:04.27 | jakub_ | http://pastebin.ca/813842 |
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| 21:04.33 | \amethyst | suppaman: a rescue CD :) |
| 21:04.42 | \amethyst | suppaman: the install CD should suffice |
| 21:04.48 | suppaman | I used a netinstall |
| 21:04.59 | suppaman | I'll go with that |
| 21:05.11 | ks_laptop | abrotman well I need to have all files that are above 30 to be deleted |
| 21:05.19 | abrotman | oh .. that happense magically |
| 21:05.20 | suppaman | the point is "dmesg |grep hd" hasn't got any output |
| 21:05.50 | \amethyst | suppaman: Hmm... I guess putting dmesg into a pastebin is probably kind of difficult for you right now :) |
| 21:05.58 | suppaman | kind of |
| 21:06.06 | suppaman | I can type part of interest |
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| 21:06.20 | \amethyst | Is there anything about your IDE controller? |
| 21:06.47 | suppaman | that's what I'm searching |
| 21:06.50 | \amethyst | suppaman: also, do you have a /proc/ide and is there anything in it? |
| 21:07.07 | rcbarnes | Is there a good debian tutorial on installine etch on an encrypted partition using cryptosetup? |
| 21:07.08 | suppaman | no /proc/ide |
| 21:07.13 | jakub_ | \amethyst: http://pastebin.ca/813842 |
| 21:07.17 | rcbarnes | s/lline/lling/ |
| 21:07.21 | kshaw|work | anyone... |
| 21:07.32 | \amethyst | suppaman: What kernel is this? |
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| 21:07.51 | suppaman | 2.6.22-2-686 |
| 21:07.58 | \amethyst | jakub_: okay, so let's remove the diversion by hand |
| 21:08.17 | suppaman | again I just dist-upgraded while in testing |
| 21:08.17 | \amethyst | jakub_: first of all, is there a file /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.ia32-libs ? |
| 21:08.23 | suppaman | weird weird |
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| 21:08.36 | jakub_ | no |
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| 21:08.40 | hello__ | how do i make sure no website will ever write anything on my disk, except cookies ? |
| 21:08.49 | jakub_ | D`oh |
| 21:08.51 | jakub_ | yes it`s there |
| 21:08.52 | jakub_ | :) |
| 21:09.02 | suppaman | hello__: website doesn't write anything |
| 21:09.03 | \amethyst | hello__: don't use flash and turn off your browser's disk cache |
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| 21:09.52 | hello__ | do u know how some websites write binaries and run them ? |
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| 21:10.32 | abrotman | hello__: this is #debian |
| 21:10.34 | suppaman | hello__: actually they can't do that, it's the client that does it |
| 21:10.50 | suppaman | unless you ar thinking about rpc |
| 21:10.50 | stew | hello__: make sure the user running the webserver (typically www-data on debian), doesn't have write permissions to any directories |
| 21:10.53 | suppaman | are* |
| 21:10.57 | jakub_ | dpkg\amethyst: how ? |
| 21:11.02 | suppaman | anyway |
| 21:11.10 | \amethyst | jakub_: so dpkg-divert --rename --package nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32 --divert /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.ia32-libs --remove /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 |
| 21:11.14 | hello__ | suppaman, u mean the browser |
| 21:11.21 | suppaman | I'm looking into /sys/bus/pci/ |
| 21:11.23 | abrotman | hello__: be more specific about what you're asking |
| 21:11.33 | jakub_ | \amethyst: not allowed :o( |
| 21:11.42 | \amethyst | jakub_: ? |
| 21:11.43 | `nstuff | what would |
| 21:12.01 | jakub_ | dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1' with |
| 21:12.01 | jakub_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.13 | `nstuff | the problem if i try to rm -rf a dir, and it says it isn't empty |
| 21:12.19 | `nstuff | but yet it is :/ |
| 21:12.22 | \amethyst | jakub_: wait |
| 21:12.28 | abrotman | `nstuff: did you ls -a ? |
| 21:12.39 | \amethyst | jakub_: what does dpkg -S /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 say? |
| 21:12.48 | suppaman | abrotman: well -rf shouldn't care |
| 21:12.56 | abrotman | that wasn't what i asked :) |
| 21:12.56 | jakub_ | diversion by nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32 from: /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 |
| 21:12.57 | jakub_ | diversion by nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32 to: /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.ia32-libs |
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| 21:13.12 | `nstuff | yep and indeed -rf shouldn't care :/ |
| 21:13.24 | `nstuff | -al just show . and .. |
| 21:13.29 | jakub_ | but there is ia32 libs too |
| 21:13.48 | \amethyst | `nstuff: is the directory a mount point? |
| 21:13.52 | jakub_ | yeah |
| 21:13.55 | jakub_ | it was it |
| 21:14.12 | jakub_ | maybee |
| 21:14.18 | \amethyst | `nstuff: and is there a program that has an open file in the directory? |
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| 21:14.26 | \amethyst | `nstuff: (open but deleted) |
| 21:14.35 | jakub_ | \amethyst: thx for help |
| 21:14.39 | \amethyst | `nstuff: or for that matter a program that has that directory as its current directory |
| 21:14.40 | `nstuff | nop just some subdir, and nothing is running in that dir :/ |
| 21:14.44 | jakub_ | shit! |
| 21:14.47 | suppaman | do you guy have ide in /proc/bus ? |
| 21:14.53 | suppaman | guys* |
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| 21:15.03 | `nstuff | although it's an encfs mount |
| 21:15.07 | \amethyst | suppaman: no... here just input pci and usb |
| 21:15.37 | \amethyst | suppaman: I've also seen pccard and pnp |
| 21:15.38 | suppaman | and under pci ? |
| 21:15.57 | error0327 | i need some help my friends i tray to install the theflashplugin-nonfree and at the end of the install i get Download done. |
| 21:15.57 | error0327 | md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz |
| 21:15.57 | error0327 | The Flash plugin is NOT installed. |
| 21:15.57 | error0327 | RESULT=0 |
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| 21:16.10 | \amethyst | suppaman: a directory for each bus ID |
| 21:16.13 | `nstuff | just hosts a bunch of files and no programs running on there |
| 21:16.19 | keith4 | is there any central repo of python crap? where do I find python modules that aren't packaged? |
| 21:16.19 | `nstuff | remounted it, no effect |
| 21:16.41 | suppaman | I don't know exactly what I'm searching for, but anyway dmesg doesn't report anything about hd or sd, that's really weird |
| 21:16.59 | stew | suppaman: are you looking for /proc/ide ? |
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| 21:17.00 | \amethyst | suppaman: it's not detecting your IDE controller, it sounds like |
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| 21:17.20 | suppaman | stew: I don't have that one |
| 21:17.32 | \amethyst | suppaman: also no /sys/bus/ide ? |
| 21:17.51 | suppaman | nothing |
| 21:17.57 | error0327 | i need some help withe flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:18.00 | \amethyst | what if you modprobe ide_core ? |
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| 21:18.16 | \amethyst | error0327: try installing the version from backports |
| 21:18.20 | \amethyst | !backport |
| 21:18.20 | dpkg | methinks backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, or <backports.org> |
| 21:18.29 | \amethyst | !backports.org |
| 21:18.30 | dpkg | i guess backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 21:18.31 | suppaman | it 's searching modules in /lib/modules/2.6.22.... |
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| 21:18.47 | suppaman | and obviously it cannot find them |
| 21:18.49 | _Sam-- | donde: donde esta |
| 21:18.57 | \amethyst | suppaman: your initramfs doesn't have modules on it? |
| 21:19.03 | \amethyst | suppaman: that could be a problem |
| 21:19.06 | suppaman | amethyst I can't complete your name with tab, is that a trailing backslash |
| 21:19.07 | suppaman | ? |
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| 21:19.30 | suppaman | well, a heading backslash actually |
| 21:19.33 | \amethyst | suppaman: irssi for some reason won't nick-complete leading backslash, though it completes pipe just fine |
| 21:19.51 | \amethyst | it's <BEEP>methyst |
| 21:20.00 | Seldaek | I am trying to make php read a per-user defined php.ini file, but they all have to be in the same dir.. so I have no idea how symlinks work but would it be possible to have a file in /home/user1/php.ini and /home/user2/php.ini, with symlinks pointing to /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d, but it would only read user1/php.ini if user1 is running php for example, so I'm looking for some kind of "user symlink" |
| 21:20.08 | \amethyst | or an anonymous function |
| 21:20.10 | acemo | when running m-a auto-install nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx i get the message nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx, what is nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx what did i do wrong? |
| 21:20.11 | \amethyst | or a LaTeX command |
| 21:20.12 | error0327 | amethyst , thanks i will tray |
| 21:20.42 | suppaman | I don't know if the ramdisk has modules, I tought apt would have cared |
| 21:20.50 | jakub_ | \amethyst: it doesnt work |
| 21:21.03 | suppaman | system has been working until the very dist-upgrade |
| 21:21.36 | \amethyst | jakub_: try this then |
| 21:21.47 | suppaman | I can put a rescue disk and try mount the root fs on disk, as a check |
| 21:21.52 | suppaman | I just have to find it |
| 21:21.54 | \amethyst | jakub_: first dpkg-divert --package nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32 --divert /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.ia32-libs --remove /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 |
| 21:22.02 | suppaman | is there a debian rescue-specific disk image ? |
| 21:22.05 | \amethyst | jakub_: then cp /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.ia32-libs /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1 |
| 21:22.42 | extor | Is lighty that much faster than apache still, or has apache caught up in the last couple of years, performance wise? |
| 21:22.45 | jakub_ | hmm |
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| 21:23.32 | jakub_ | YES |
| 21:24.09 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | multicast over 150 vlans - i have some questions. |
| 21:24.26 | extor | yes? |
| 21:25.58 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | I'm limited to 32 virtual interfaces defined in MAXVIFS variable in mroute.h. Is there a way to increase this variable? |
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| 21:26.20 | acemo | when running m-a auto-install nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx i get the message nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx, what is nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx what did i do wrong? |
| 21:26.36 | suppaman | omg, I have the etch Network Install with the beatuiest cd art ever printed on |
| 21:26.39 | suppaman | how lucky I am |
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| 21:27.07 | suppaman | not as lucky as the system never broke, but it's always better than nothing |
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| 21:28.44 | jakub_ | amethyst thank you alot |
| 21:28.48 | jakub_ | there were one depend |
| 21:28.53 | jakub_ | i deleted it and it works |
| 21:28.57 | wols_ | assasukasse: what message did you get? |
| 21:29.22 | wols_ | acemo: message did you get? |
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| 21:29.33 | assasukasse | wols_: what? |
| 21:29.38 | acemo | wols_: nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx, what is nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx? |
| 21:30.08 | wols_ | acemo: part of the nvidia drivers |
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| 21:30.26 | icemario | what is jigdo? |
| 21:30.34 | abrotman | !jigdo |
| 21:30.34 | dpkg | [jigdo] *the* method for downloading CD/DVD images of Debian. at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ or http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/index.html |
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| 21:31.16 | icemario | so the isos are the same |
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| 21:31.23 | icemario | just different method of downloading it |
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| 21:31.27 | acemo | wols_: that is the message i got... |
| 21:31.58 | Travis | hi, i had my debian server setup with LVM, but when i tried to add one more drive i messed up my LVM -- now i am only interested in making sure my data is ok, I have two drives with LVM member partitions on them with my data |
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| 21:32.09 | Travis | how can I read those partitions without using LMV or whatever |
| 21:32.13 | Travis | LVM* |
| 21:32.17 | wols_ | acemo: do you have non-free and contrib in your sources.list? |
| 21:32.24 | acemo | wols_: yes. |
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| 21:32.38 | icemario | what is list-cd and list-dvd? |
| 21:32.51 | eth01 | !ops ChanGe PM-spamming |
| 21:32.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: eth01 complains about: ChanGe PM-spamming |
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| 21:33.25 | \amethyst | acemo: what version of debian do you run? |
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| 21:34.07 | acemo | \amethyst: etch |
| 21:34.11 | icemario | debian-update-4.0r1-i386-DVD-1.iso <- what's on this? |
| 21:34.16 | \amethyst | acemo: that package isn't in etch |
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| 21:34.24 | icemario | or can I just use netinst? |
| 21:34.34 | icemario | would you recommend netinst?\] |
| 21:34.48 | acemo | \amethyst: hmm.. nice tutorial :S |
| 21:35.02 | abrotman | icemario: do you have broadband? |
| 21:35.06 | icemario | yes |
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| 21:35.11 | \amethyst | acemo: http://packages.debian.org/nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx |
| 21:35.13 | icemario | more than 1 MB a second |
| 21:35.14 | abrotman | the netinst is ideal |
| 21:35.14 | kritical | Does anyone know what package contains the 'killall' script? |
| 21:35.18 | wols_ | icemario: yes |
| 21:35.22 | \amethyst | acemo: it's from sid |
| 21:35.23 | abrotman | !tell kritical about search |
| 21:35.25 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: are you sure that what MAXVIFS is? I can easily setup eth0:1-eth0:99 and I know we had machines with far over 100 virtual IFs (on Kernel 2.4. though and it may have been patched) |
| 21:35.27 | abrotman | likely psmisc |
| 21:35.31 | icemario | why not download the DVD? |
| 21:35.37 | icemario | or that has stuff you don't need? |
| 21:35.41 | wols_ | icemario: cause it wastes traffic |
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| 21:35.52 | wols_ | it most certainly has |
| 21:35.57 | icemario | kk |
| 21:36.07 | suppaman | damn it was a ppc netinstall |
| 21:36.09 | acemo | anyone might know what this problem could be? when starting the laptop first everything works normal, after a while when i press "t" laptop thinks i press "t" and arrow up, a while later it thinks i press arrow up at random times, a while later it thinks i press and hold arrow up all the time |
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| 21:36.37 | \amethyst | acemo: does this happen in other OSes too, or only in Linux? |
| 21:36.41 | icemario | hmm fedora default install is 4 gig, what about debian default install? |
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| 21:36.57 | icemario | using netinst |
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| 21:37.40 | suppaman | I think a few hundreds megs |
| 21:37.58 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: Yes, I have a limit of 32 ip addreses on which a multicast is enabled. No matter if they are vlans or just additionals ip's on an interface |
| 21:38.03 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: ah, but I see this is something specific for protocol independen multicast |
| 21:38.09 | suppaman | but maybe I'm recalling the very small install disk |
| 21:38.12 | wols_ | icemario: debian has no real defaultinst |
| 21:38.21 | acemo | \amethyst: it started to happen a few days ago.. i only tried it with the installed linux and a live cd so far.. |
| 21:38.34 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: Yeah, I see that this is more specific than just virtual IFs |
| 21:38.38 | icemario | aren't there preselected options in netinst for packages? |
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| 21:38.46 | icemario | a bunch of default packages? |
| 21:38.56 | wols_ | icemario: aboit 200MB or so max I guess |
| 21:39.03 | \amethyst | acemo: I'd be inclined to blame the hardware without some evidence to the contrary (like the problem not showing up in Windows, for example) |
| 21:39.18 | tarzeau | wols_: 300mb i thought |
| 21:39.22 | tarzeau | wols_: i386/linux etch |
| 21:39.33 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: I have raised the MAXVIFS variable in mroute.h to 1024 and recompiled the kernel. But the limit is still 32... |
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| 21:39.51 | acemo | inclined means u do want to or dont want to blame it? |
| 21:39.53 | wols_ | tarzeau: would have grown awfully then. I ran a woody router with 170MB |
| 21:40.04 | wols_ | and it had more than the minimum, quite a lot more |
| 21:40.07 | tarzeau | wols_: i know, i had potato which was around 80 |
| 21:40.17 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: I have read that that lilmit is based on 32-bit architectute of the CPU? |
| 21:40.25 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: huh - weird. Just skimmed through a Linux-Cross-Reference and it's only mentioned in a handful places |
| 21:40.27 | tarzeau | wols_: sarge doubled, etch doubled again |
| 21:40.33 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: I'm wondering is it still true... |
| 21:40.35 | tarzeau | wols_: it's about 350 even |
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| 21:41.08 | wols_ | tarzeau: your 350MB, does it contain X? |
| 21:41.14 | tarzeau | wols_: default install |
| 21:41.39 | tarzeau | wols_: hit enter during the installer... i don't remember what it contains, but not changing the selections during the tasksel question |
| 21:41.49 | abrotman | that's just 'standard' |
| 21:42.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: and he asked for? default? |
| 21:42.16 | \amethyst | doh, BoBo left |
| 21:42.29 | Ronin | probibly still being ddosd |
| 21:42.49 | Ronin | if they are who i think they are |
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| 21:44.16 | \amethyst | I was going to say that, since vifs are used in a bitmap structure, making it bigger than the size of a long (or long long if you change vifmbitmap_t) isn't likely to work |
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| 21:44.49 | Tramp | \amethyst: yeah, that's what I just saw as well - also waiting for him to come back |
| 21:45.07 | \amethyst | and, that doesn't make any changes visible to userspace, since userspace isn't using the raw kernel headers |
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| 21:45.52 | \amethyst | you'd have to edit the version in /usr/include/linux/mroute.h too |
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| 21:46.05 | \amethyst | and you're likely to break modules, since you're changing the ABI at that point |
| 21:46.23 | \amethyst | for that matter, you'd probably have to recompile libc |
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| 21:46.58 | Tramp | however, looks like a rather arbitrary restriction to me |
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| 21:47.32 | wide_awake | Hello |
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| 21:47.51 | \amethyst | Tramp: you could probably up it to 64 bits easily---beyond that you'd have to make vifmbitmap_t a struct or something |
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| 21:48.54 | wide_awake | I'm just doing a dry-run of a downgrade from testing/unstable -> stable (on a virtual machine), and I'm getting a bunch of errors that are starting to freak me out. The "real" downgrade is looming this evening... anyone have a bit of time to help me get the dry-run working? |
| 21:48.56 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: I need a value of MAXVIFS about 250... |
| 21:49.03 | Tramp | \amethyst: yes, a linked list of such bitmaps - should not be much slower. But *sigh* there will be reasons ... |
| 21:49.17 | Enron | why doesn't debian have /usr/share/ssl dir? |
| 21:49.18 | abrotman | wide_awake: downgrade not supported! |
| 21:49.20 | wide_awake | I'm using aptitude, and have fixed all the broken packages |
| 21:49.26 | wide_awake | abrotman: clearly. :) |
| 21:49.27 | abrotman | Enron: /usr/share/libssl/ maybe? |
| 21:49.30 | sausageman | my sid is outputting all it's kernel log messages to the console... syslog is running and is saving them to files, but they're still being outputted to the console |
| 21:49.34 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: \amethyst just pointed to a 32-bit datastructure which limits you |
| 21:49.35 | abrotman | wide_awake: we'd ahve to see the errors |
| 21:49.43 | Enron | wide-awake is that the same? |
| 21:49.49 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: So i need to use Cisco or something else:)). |
| 21:50.07 | acemo | "lsmod | grep" nvidia spits out "nvidia 3927180 0 agpgart 29360 2 nvidia,sis_agp" means nvidia module is loaded? |
| 21:50.20 | wols_ | yes |
| 21:50.22 | abrotman | Enron: you can use apt-file to search |
| 21:50.26 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: looks like Linux doesn't match your requirements 8) |
| 21:50.26 | wide_awake | abrotman: is a 2-line paste ok, or should I use a paste site? |
| 21:50.32 | abrotman | 2 is okay |
| 21:50.39 | wide_awake | "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mount_2.12r-19_i386.deb (--unpack):" |
| 21:50.45 | wide_awake | " trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man5/nfs.5.gz', which is also in package nfs-common" |
| 21:50.46 | abrotman | any more than that .. and we'll stuff you into #gentoo |
| 21:50.51 | wide_awake | hahaha |
| 21:50.52 | acemo | wols_: then why do i get the error (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) when trying to startx? |
| 21:50.54 | abrotman | !tell wide_awake about overwrite |
| 21:50.56 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: VERY BIG THANKS to you:)) |
| 21:51.08 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: ... and \amethyst |
| 21:51.13 | wols_ | acemo: dpkg -l |grep nvidia |
| 21:51.20 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: I just seek a point to search for!!! |
| 21:51.21 | wide_awake | abrotman: can you tell aptitude to force-overwrite? |
| 21:51.26 | abrotman | no need to thank \amethyst .. he does it for the marshmallow peeps! |
| 21:51.33 | acemo | wols_: that an i or L? |
| 21:51.38 | abrotman | wide_awake: does it accept options like apt-get ? |
| 21:51.40 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: It's in the source, right beneath the line you changed from 32 |
| 21:51.45 | wols_ | a lowercase l |
| 21:51.46 | wide_awake | dunno - probably. |
| 21:51.55 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: typedef unsigned long vifbitmap_t; /* User mode code depends on this lot */ |
| 21:52.10 | acemo | wols_: okay |
| 21:52.14 | abrotman | wide_awake: it seems to |
| 21:52.24 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: That was the ansewer I've search for.:)) |
| 21:52.32 | Enron | There is no dir in /usr/share with any ssl in the name |
| 21:52.48 | \amethyst | wide_awake: wait |
| 21:52.53 | abrotman | Enron: what are you actually looking for? |
| 21:52.59 | \amethyst | wide_awake: what version of nfs-common do you have? |
| 21:52.59 | wide_awake | whee |
| 21:52.59 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: I just have search for a solution. 10x very much!!! |
| 21:52.59 | wide_awake | forcing overwrite |
| 21:52.59 | Enron | I already installed openssl is that |
| 21:53.05 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: so hope you find a solution - 32 interfaces available for broadcast seems arbitrarily restricted to me |
| 21:53.18 | Enron | abrotman I have RHEL box with a webserver with certs installed |
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| 21:53.23 | Enron | i'm trying to copy over the cert |
| 21:53.27 | wide_awake | \amethyst: not sure - I'm in limbo at the moment. I'll let you know in a minute. |
| 21:53.28 | Enron | and duplicate what was done there |
| 21:53.40 | abrotman | Enron: oh .. you can put them wherever you want .. mine are in /etc/apache2/ssl/ |
| 21:53.41 | Enron | but I can't locate the /usr/share/ssl or libssl dir |
| 21:53.46 | Enron | oh ok |
| 21:53.46 | wide_awake | fortunately, I care very little about which nfs man page gets installed. |
| 21:53.52 | Enron | and just edit .ldaprc right? |
| 21:54.00 | acemo | wols_: gives me a big list of nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-4-486 nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6.18-5-486 nvidia-kernel-legacy-source nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig |
| 21:54.01 | Enron | I need to use sldap |
| 21:54.05 | \amethyst | wide_awake: Because it sounds like you don't have the etch version of nfs-common |
| 21:54.09 | abrotman | slapd ? |
| 21:54.16 | wide_awake | \amethyst: I have the etch version scheduled to install |
| 21:54.18 | Enron | secure ldap |
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| 21:54.27 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: so your network relies heavily on multicasts? |
| 21:54.27 | \amethyst | wide_awake: Ah, that's the problem then |
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| 21:54.37 | abrotman | Enron: you'll have to find the config file .. which also is likely in /etc/ |
| 21:54.57 | wols_ | acemo: what videocard is it btw? |
| 21:55.00 | \amethyst | wide_awake: you'll need to install the etch version of nfs-common, which doesn't have the nfs manpage, before installing the etch version of mount |
| 21:55.01 | wide_awake | \amethyst: is there a way to force things to happen in order? |
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| 21:55.07 | acemo | wols_: geforce 2 mx 400 |
| 21:55.15 | \amethyst | wide_awake: run them as two separate commands? |
| 21:55.17 | Enron | abrotman yea it is |
| 21:55.20 | paul_lime | hello, im having some issues getting consoles apps that use ncurses to display properly in x terminal. under xterm, they display fine. under any other terminal program they display all screwy (using funny letters instead of lines) does any one know what this is symptomatic of? |
| 21:55.30 | Enron | ty |
| 21:55.37 | \amethyst | paul_lime: what other terminal programs? |
| 21:55.39 | wide_awake | \amethyst: I have about 5 zillion packages to downgrade... |
| 21:55.43 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: We are inplementing an IPTV solution for our clients. |
| 21:55.47 | wide_awake | the force-overwrite thing seemed to work. |
| 21:55.47 | \amethyst | wide_awake: you're downgrading? |
| 21:55.50 | \amethyst | ouch |
| 21:55.51 | wide_awake | \amethyst: yep |
| 21:55.51 | abrotman | wide_awake: you know it's only 4.7 zillion |
| 21:56.03 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: Multicast seems OK for that |
| 21:56.11 | paul_lime | multi-gnome terminal, e-term |
| 21:56.15 | \amethyst | wide_awake: now you see one example of why downgrading is unsupported |
| 21:56.25 | wide_awake | \amethyst: yes. It sucks. |
| 21:56.32 | abrotman | wide_awake: why did you go to unstable anyways? |
| 21:56.37 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: I mean Set Top Boxes and about VLC |
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| 21:56.42 | wide_awake | because stable didn't support amd64 at the time. |
| 21:56.58 | wide_awake | alas, now things are pretty broken. |
| 21:57.00 | \amethyst | paul_lime: multi-gnome-terminal is very old... perhaps it and eterm don't support Unicode |
| 21:57.08 | \amethyst | paul_lime: try rxvt-unicode |
| 21:57.11 | wide_awake | and gcc can't compile due to libc issues. |
| 21:57.33 | abrotman | wide_awake: hold on a moment .. dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 21:57.35 | acemo | wols_: any idea what my problem might be? |
| 21:57.35 | \amethyst | paul_lime: also gnome-terminal (which is much more recent than multi-gnome-terminal) |
| 21:57.54 | wols_ | acemo: not really |
| 21:57.54 | abrotman | (if you haven't already downgraded that) |
| 21:58.06 | suppaman | does '98 hardware qualify for "very old hardware" ? |
| 21:58.09 | \amethyst | In fact, why is multi-gnome-terminal still in the archive... |
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| 21:58.15 | abrotman | suppaman: likely . yes |
| 21:58.26 | abrotman | suppaman: though i've some stuff from '94 around |
| 21:58.26 | acemo | wols_: great ill try to get the problem with the arrow up on my laptop fixed instead then ^^ |
| 21:58.27 | wols_ | acemo: tho I don't understand why you seem to run a -486 kernel but that has nothing to do with the problem at han |
| 21:58.28 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: ah, ok. That fits. When I hear "multicast" I always think media/streaming and the like 8) |
| 21:58.31 | wols_ | d |
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| 21:58.49 | acemo | wols_: me neither... it just installed -486 for me |
| 21:58.53 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | When I hear "multicast" I always think media/streaming and the like 8) |
| 21:58.53 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | <wols_> d |
| 21:58.57 | suppaman | I'm getting DSL and it has a DSL-syslinux variant |
| 21:59.01 | suppaman | boots using syslinux instead of isolinux, |
| 21:59.02 | suppaman | used for some very old hardware that is no longer supported by isolinux. |
| 21:59.27 | paul_lime | yeah, that works. is there another terminal program that is unicode that supports tabs? scrolling. possibly even the multi console thing multi gnome terminal does? |
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| 21:59.50 | suppaman | abrotman: should I directly get this -syslinux? |
| 21:59.50 | \amethyst | paul_lime: gnome-terminal supports tabs |
| 21:59.58 | \amethyst | paul_lime: as does konsole (the KDE terminal) |
| 22:00.00 | suppaman | I found myself without a bootable cd at all |
| 22:00.05 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: Yes, multicast seems ok for broadcastins streaming media. At the moment we've a solution based on udp unicast. |
| 22:00.07 | icemario | I downloaded the fedora DVD, though it was 3 GIG |
| 22:00.16 | icemario | a lot of packages |
| 22:00.31 | wols_ | acemo: what cpu do you have? |
| 22:00.32 | wide_awake | abrotman: re: libc6: |
| 22:00.35 | wide_awake | abrotman: ii libc6 2.5-7 |
| 22:00.45 | wide_awake | (on the yet-to-be-downgraded box) |
| 22:00.46 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 22:00.52 | abrotman | sarge had an amd64 release .. so did etch |
| 22:00.54 | abrotman | !info libc6 etch |
| 22:00.56 | acemo | wols_: p3 |
| 22:00.57 | paul_lime | somthing that is not gtk2 based, im trying to assemble a 'minimal' system |
| 22:00.58 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 (etch), Packaged size: 4588 kB, Installed size: 10804 kB |
| 22:01.03 | wols_ | acemo: -686 then |
| 22:01.10 | acemo | wols_: yep.. |
| 22:01.18 | wols_ | acemo: I mean the kernel you'd want |
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| 22:01.29 | suppaman | paul_lime: wasn't there aterm ? but I'm not sure |
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| 22:01.37 | wols_ | suppaman: there is an aterm |
| 22:01.38 | wide_awake | I don't remember a sarge amd64 release. |
| 22:01.49 | \amethyst | wols_: does aterm do unicode? |
| 22:01.52 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: I did a lot with networking, but almost nothing with multicast. That's why my initial answer was off the point. I just thought of a router connected to a multi-vlan port. |
| 22:01.52 | acemo | wols_: yeah i know its -686 but i dont know why the debian install diskettes chose to install -484 instead |
| 22:01.57 | wols_ | wide_awake: there was one. came out after sarge went stable |
| 22:02.08 | wide_awake | I thought before etch it was all that alioth stuff... |
| 22:02.15 | wols_ | acemo: cause they use -486 for obvious reasons |
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| 22:02.59 | suppaman | I wonder why the hell if have all these powerpc install disc as I never use linux on the ibook... |
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| 22:02.59 | suppaman | s/if/I/ |
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| 22:02.59 | wide_awake | wols_: ahh, right. amd64 became "official" right after sarge went stable. |
| 22:03.47 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: The multicast router is working very well with 32 interfaces.... But with more - it doesn't:))). I heve tested with mrouted, smcroute and pimd. |
| 22:03.55 | wide_awake | in any case, I didn't put "etch" or "sarge" or "sid" in any of the apt sources, instead using "testing" etc. |
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| 22:04.06 | nico666 | look this video wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=LoUogk1lRhI |
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| 22:04.43 | wide_awake | now I want stable. |
| 22:04.55 | paul_lime | aaaargh aterm is even worse! |
| 22:04.55 | Travis | I am moving two drives that part of an LVM to a new computer, how do I add them to the LVM on the new computer without losing data |
| 22:05.04 | wide_awake | because I want other people to be able to update this machine without major issues while I take a 3 month vacation :P |
| 22:05.05 | Travis | when I create an LVM is says all data on drive will be erased |
| 22:05.10 | paul_lime | however rxvt looks promising... |
| 22:05.37 | \amethyst | paul_lime: rxvt-unicode is probably the one you want |
| 22:05.47 | wide_awake | Aside: rxvt is the only thing that makes cygwin bearable |
| 22:06.01 | paul_lime | but does it support tabs? |
| 22:06.03 | wide_awake | on the flipside, it's the only thing preventing me from switching my workstation to debian... |
| 22:06.25 | \amethyst | paul_lime: mrxvt is the tabbed version, but I don't know if it supports unicode :) |
| 22:06.36 | h3sp4wn | paul_lime: screen does tabs anywhere |
| 22:07.04 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: There is a solution (I think) caled MVR (Multicast VLAN Registration)... But I can't find a good documentation for that... |
| 22:07.25 | LiMaO | hey, doesn't wine create an entry in the applications folder on debian? |
| 22:07.39 | karsten | wide_awake: rdesktop: run a Linux desktop and remote to the Windows machine. |
| 22:07.52 | wide_awake | mmmm |
| 22:08.44 | karsten | wide_awake: Was just talking to some cow-orkers at lunch. You can even redirect sound, printers, and local Linux directories / drives to the Windows side to enable filesharing. |
| 22:08.59 | wide_awake | cool |
| 22:09.04 | wide_awake | I've done the VMWare thing |
| 22:09.06 | wide_awake | that works OK |
| 22:09.17 | wide_awake | except I can never get the mouse working properly if linux is inside |
| 22:09.23 | suppaman | any hint the kernel isn't recognizing ide controller anymore ? |
| 22:09.26 | wide_awake | things seem to work fine if linux is outside. |
| 22:09.27 | karsten | wide_awake: emulation IMO is too slow, kills performance on the host. |
| 22:09.31 | suppaman | hint about why* |
| 22:10.16 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: Never heard of that - sounds interesting. |
| 22:10.21 | wide_awake | if you've used Vista at all, there's no performance to kill. |
| 22:10.24 | wide_awake | :( |
| 22:10.50 | paul_lime | yes, screen is one of the first things i install for my commandline work. however somtimes you want to work in x! |
| 22:11.04 | Ronin | paul_lime: doesnt mean you cant use screen still |
| 22:11.05 | LiMaO | wide_awake: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:11.24 | wide_awake | LiMaO: something totally unrelated to what I've been talking about. |
| 22:11.34 | wide_awake | LiMaO: do a downgrade from testing/unstable to stable. |
| 22:11.49 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: It's implemented in Cisco, and is coppied in Allied Telesyn, Zixel, etc... But I can't find an "HOWTO" for that :))) |
| 22:11.50 | wide_awake | but couldn't resist throwing in my 2 cents about rxvt. |
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| 22:12.06 | LiMaO | lol, i skimmed thru a few lines and though you were trying to access your desktop from another computer while on vacation |
| 22:12.14 | LiMaO | and then i would recommend you 'x11vnc' |
| 22:12.15 | wide_awake | heh |
| 22:12.16 | Soeki | how can i view all the host currently registered to my dhcp3 ? |
| 22:12.25 | karsten | wide_awake: '-r' argument allows redirection/sharing of a device, Eg: -r disk:<sharename>=<path>,... |
| 22:12.36 | wide_awake | no, want someone else to manage server updates etc. At the moment, an "apt-get dist-upgrade" is likely to destroy the universe :-/ |
| 22:12.45 | ks_laptop | how do I rotate mysql binary logs ? |
| 22:13.09 | ks_laptop | it looks like mysql-bin.000034 |
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| 22:13.45 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: but Cisco usually has tons of documentation available for their stuff |
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| 22:14.10 | ks_laptop | just wonder if log rotate understands mysql-bin.[0-9]+ |
| 22:14.13 | Enron | anyone know which file I need to edit to change web root for apache2 |
| 22:14.20 | Enron | it's not httpd.conf anymore right? |
| 22:14.57 | wide_awake | Enron: there are site-specific configs by default |
| 22:15.05 | LiMaO | Enron: check the 'available-sites' folder |
| 22:15.08 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: googling for it with "site:cisco.com" gives more than 2k hits |
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| 22:15.18 | wols_ | Enron: grep -r var/www /etc/apache2/* |
| 22:15.20 | wide_awake | Enron: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
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| 22:15.54 | LiMaO | Enron: create a file at sites-available (or available-sites, i don't remember) and create a link to it at 'sites-enabled' folder |
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| 22:16.03 | abrotman | /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
| 22:16.13 | \amethyst | use a2ensite to create the link |
| 22:16.15 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: :))) I just need an "implementstion" schema for that:))) I've tryed "MVR" on a Zyxel switch.. But it doesn't seem to work.... |
| 22:16.20 | Enron | wow why so many steps |
| 22:16.24 | Enron | can't we just edit the dir |
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| 22:16.26 | sharingos | hi |
| 22:16.28 | Enron | I don't want a redirect |
| 22:16.36 | abrotman | so remove it from the conf file |
| 22:16.36 | \amethyst | Enron: you can edit it in the file hat abrotman pointed out |
| 22:16.42 | abrotman | hat! |
| 22:16.44 | Enron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.52 | abrotman | comment that out |
| 22:16.53 | Enron | so change that to / instead of apache2-default |
| 22:16.55 | abrotman | with a # |
| 22:16.57 | Enron | I tried commenting |
| 22:16.59 | Enron | didn't help |
| 22:17.04 | Enron | restart apache |
| 22:17.05 | abrotman | did you restart apache after doing that? |
| 22:17.11 | Enron | yessir |
| 22:17.17 | \amethyst | Enron: just remove the line altogether |
| 22:17.31 | LiMaO | Enron: you gotta EDIT the aforementioned file.. open it with a text editor and change the root path in there |
| 22:17.44 | Enron | i'm so stupid |
| 22:17.46 | abrotman | Enron: that's all i did .. i just commented it out and restarted apache .. voila .. magic .. |
| 22:17.53 | sharingos | does anyone know why if I copy a file from a ntfs fs of 300 MB, it copies only 28 MB? |
| 22:17.54 | Enron | I keep refreshing the URL with apache2-default in it |
| 22:17.55 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: The problem is that (I think) the switch "MUST" forward (or generate) the ICMP messages from the clients to the multicast router... |
| 22:17.59 | LiMaO | then use the following command to restart apache 'apache2 -k restart' |
| 22:18.00 | abrotman | Enron: DOH! |
| 22:18.04 | Enron | duh yea |
| 22:18.05 | Enron | :O |
| 22:18.08 | Enron | thanks alot |
| 22:18.23 | icemario | I'm getting an error in the debian netinstaller hda: lost interrupt hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x64 hdb: DMA interrupt recovery ide-cd: |
| 22:18.49 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: yes, that's what I understand (IGMP, not ICMP). Forwarding the IGMP request of the client. |
| 22:18.50 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: :))) sorry :)) not ICMP but IGMP :))) messages:)) |
| 22:19.05 | valdyn | !punctuation |
| 22:19.12 | valdyn | damn! |
| 22:19.16 | abrotman | !ep |
| 22:19.16 | dpkg | Please stop using excessive punctuation. One exclamation point, question mark, period, ellipsis, comma, hyphen or interrobang is more than sufficient. Using excess punctuation means that you're more likely to be ignored by those who actually can help you, as it makes it difficult to see what you're actually asking. Continued use of excessive punctuation may result in a ban. |
| 22:19.21 | abrotman | that one? |
| 22:19.29 | valdyn | yea |
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| 22:20.57 | Shizen | blah... lenny repositories erroring again |
| 22:20.57 | BlueToothz | by these? |
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| 22:20.59 | BlueToothz | these what |
| 22:21.00 | BlueToothz | lol |
| 22:21.02 | sharingos | ???? |
| 22:21.08 | BlueToothz | i think someone should fix that |
| 22:21.13 | BlueToothz | we arent dogs you know |
| 22:21.32 | valdyn | BlueToothz: fix what? |
| 22:21.56 | paul_lime | thanks guys. youv been really helpful |
| 22:22.09 | paul_lime | keep it up! |
| 22:22.09 | BlueToothz | valdyn, the bot dpkg !ep command.. 'to be ignored by these who actually can help you' |
| 22:22.12 | BlueToothz | these what? |
| 22:22.19 | icemario | god I hate formatting NTFS non quick |
| 22:22.31 | icemario | NTFS (Quick) is much better :) |
| 22:22.35 | sharingos | no one knows it? |
| 22:22.36 | sharingos | ??? |
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| 22:22.41 | valdyn | BlueToothz: its true. |
| 22:22.43 | suppaman | ok I'm running DSL now |
| 22:22.47 | suppaman | I see the hd devices |
| 22:23.06 | suppaman | how should I proceed to fix the debian system ? |
| 22:23.19 | suppaman | I can't remember what the kernel was before dist-upgrading |
| 22:23.40 | valdyn | suppaman: which debian release? |
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| 22:23.45 | suppaman | testing |
| 22:23.51 | suppaman | can't remember its name |
| 22:23.53 | suppaman | Lenny ? |
| 22:23.54 | valdyn | suppaman: and your current kernel? |
| 22:24.00 | suppaman | 2.6.22-2-i686 |
| 22:24.02 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: So ( Ithink) the Multicast router MUST be of the SAME VLAN as the client... |
| 22:24.03 | abrotman | BlueToothz: seems to say "by those" to me |
| 22:24.13 | suppaman | valdyn: I dist-upgraded and the system screwed up |
| 22:24.21 | valdyn | suppaman: your old kernel shouldnt just be gone, cant you select it in the boot manager? |
| 22:24.26 | suppaman | it does not recognize the ide controller |
| 22:24.39 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp If we're not using some kind of MVR... |
| 22:24.45 | suppaman | valdyn: I never get it into the apt-get-managing-my-lilo-config thing |
| 22:25.06 | valdyn | suppaman: your boot manager shows up when you boot the system.. |
| 22:25.12 | BlueToothz | abrotman, dont pick on the man who can't read lol :)\ |
| 22:25.14 | suppaman | valdyn: I know what it is |
| 22:25.17 | BlueToothz | :P * |
| 22:25.26 | valdyn | suppaman: right, so cant you pick the older kernel there? |
| 22:25.43 | suppaman | valdyn: you're assuming there's an older choice |
| 22:25.58 | suppaman | actually there is one but that will kernel panic |
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| 22:26.05 | valdyn | suppaman: yes, you said that you might have used a different kernel before |
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| 22:26.41 | suppaman | valdyn: I just performed a dist-upgrade, and on reboot.. well there never was a reboot actually |
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| 22:26.50 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: I'm just want to find "A SOLUTION":)) It dowsn't matter it's Cisco or someting else. The "COST" is not a problem.:)) |
| 22:26.51 | wide_awake | what are the odds of ending up with a system that doesn't boot after attempting a downgrade? |
| 22:27.12 | wide_awake | has anyone here done it with a production server without screwing everything up? |
| 22:27.13 | Ronin | wide_awake: pretty good |
| 22:27.15 | _Sam-- | wide_awake: according to wols, if it involves libc, there is a good chance |
| 22:27.16 | suppaman | wide_awake: the same about after an upgrade, I think |
| 22:27.17 | valdyn | wide_awake: that'S a pointless question that cant be answered reasonably |
| 22:27.20 | Ronin | !downgrade |
| 22:27.20 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. |
| 22:27.25 | valdyn | wide_awake: depends on what you downgrade. |
| 22:27.33 | wide_awake | it involves libc. |
| 22:27.34 | wide_awake | :( |
| 22:27.35 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: huh, I'm afraid this gets over my head. On the document I'm just skimming it says, that multicast-routing and MVR cannot coexist on a device |
| 22:27.57 | suppaman | valdyn: weird thing is that upon reboot system doesn't see hd devices so it ends in a shell run in initramfs |
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| 22:28.12 | _Sam-- | wide_awake: i had the same problem with a production server, and i couldnt fix it myself. however, someone much more knowledgeable than me could fix it fine, and did. i dont know if you're willing to spend to pay someone to do it. |
| 22:28.19 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: But then why not deploy a range of Cisco-Switches/Routers and be happy? |
| 22:28.23 | wols_ | wide_awake: as a compromise, why not run lenny? |
| 22:28.25 | _Sam-- | but i paid 100 bucks, and got it done. |
| 22:28.31 | valdyn | suppaman: paste the output of "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" on a paste site |
| 22:28.44 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: :)) It's OK :)) I can use multiple devices.:)))) |
| 22:28.47 | wide_awake | wols_: is Lenny now "testing"? |
| 22:28.52 | wols_ | wide_awake: yes |
| 22:28.58 | wide_awake | ok, that's not so bad then |
| 22:29.15 | suppaman | valdyn: that's not easy |
| 22:29.22 | wide_awake | _Sam-- who ended up doing it? |
| 22:29.44 | _Sam-- | wide_awake: a very pleasant, knowledgable and professional person from this channel, dondelelcaro |
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| 22:29.45 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: But I can't find "A SOLUTON" for this:)) no matter Linux, Cisco, etc .:)))) |
| 22:29.52 | _Sam-- | debian.org/consultants, he's listed. |
| 22:29.54 | valdyn | suppaman: not hard, boot your system with dsl, mount your root partition somewhere, run "chroot /path/to/somewhere", run the abovementioned command |
| 22:30.03 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: so you have a sender, multiple receivers and a Cisco Layer 2/3 infrastructure inbetween - why should this not work? |
| 22:30.06 | suppaman | valdyn: that's what I'm trying |
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| 22:30.12 | suppaman | without the chroot |
| 22:30.22 | wide_awake | interesting. |
| 22:30.38 | valdyn | suppaman: not going to work without chroot |
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| 22:30.56 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: but I'm afraid we are getting (1) off topic and (2) too far away from me being able to make educated comments 8) |
| 22:31.01 | pablo | hi, can i see a picture on a console? |
| 22:31.02 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: At the moment we've ony Alied Telesyn devices on owr network. |
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| 22:31.35 | wide_awake | wols_: any libc caveats when going to lenny? |
| 22:31.41 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: We're wondering to but Cisco:)) |
| 22:31.41 | suppaman | pablo: svgalib |
| 22:31.42 | _Sam-- | wide_awake: what happened, you pulled in libc from a testing source, but you're running stable? |
| 22:32.02 | wide_awake | _Sam-- no, I've got an old crusty system that's been running testing/unstable for a long time |
| 22:32.07 | wide_awake | I want to switch to stable |
| 22:32.09 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: If Cisco can to that kind of Multicast routing:))) |
| 22:32.10 | wide_awake | (ideally) |
| 22:32.23 | suppaman | valdyn: on chroot I get a "FATAL: kernel too old" |
| 22:32.53 | valdyn | suppaman: you need a somewhat recent livecd |
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| 22:32.54 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: I think your local representive would be happy to help with a couple of boxes for a test-setup |
| 22:32.55 | _Sam-- | wide_awake: sounds like trouble, but i know nothing. |
| 22:32.58 | valdyn | suppaman: or system. |
| 22:33.08 | ente0815 | hallo |
| 22:33.11 | valdyn | suppaman: 2.6 kernel is probawbly required |
| 22:33.18 | pablo | suppaman: dont understand how this works, hw can i see a picture so clearly on the console? |
| 22:33.21 | suppaman | I see, this dsl is 2.4. |
| 22:33.30 | wide_awake | _Sam-- it *is* trouble. But not as much trouble as keeping it in its current state. |
| 22:33.35 | valdyn | pablo: X runs on a console too =) |
| 22:33.52 | _Sam-- | it might be easier to save your critical configs and data, and just re-install stable? |
| 22:33.55 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: This is an GOOD IDEA:)) I'll try it. |
| 22:34.01 | _Sam-- | i guess, that depends on what you run, and how much is on it. |
| 22:34.07 | suppaman | actually all I need is the home dir, 380Mb so I'll save it |
| 22:34.23 | suppaman | valdyn: any name for a recent live cd ? |
| 22:34.32 | valdyn | suppaman: knoppix |
| 22:34.37 | suppaman | valdyn: I went for dsl as it was tiny and I had to get it on the fly |
| 22:34.46 | valdyn | suppaman: grml |
| 22:34.47 | suppaman | how is debian live ? |
| 22:34.52 | wide_awake | _Sam-- I don't have physical access to the box. |
| 22:34.57 | valdyn | suppaman: ( that'S a live cd ) |
| 22:34.57 | Shizen | hmmm |
| 22:35.02 | Shizen | I've decided to go to sleep |
| 22:35.08 | Shizen | but all these apt-get is getting me |
| 22:35.11 | Shizen | (pun intended) |
| 22:35.16 | suppaman | valdyn: that grml ? |
| 22:35.39 | valdyn | suppaman: http://www.grml.org/ |
| 22:35.42 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | Tramp: I'm from Bulgaria and I thing we're the furst ISP, which implement that kind of technology...:))) |
| 22:36.14 | suppaman | valdyn: I 'm already there, I mean your "( that'S a live cd )" was referred to grml ? |
| 22:36.22 | suppaman | from what I'm reading it was.. |
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| 22:36.47 | valdyn | suppaman: yea |
| 22:36.51 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: Cool - well, it's all Europe now ;) |
| 22:37.57 | wide_awake | !upgrade |
| 22:37.57 | dpkg | i guess upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with apt-get. Do an apt-get update first, and then an apt-get upgrade. ask me about 'security', or if you upgrade to a new stable version, read the release notes first |
| 22:37.58 | suppaman | valdyn: I'm getting grml small |
| 22:38.09 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | <Tramp>: We have more that 2500 clients for Internet. The IPTV solution is not inplemented right now (I think) I Sofia:))) |
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| 22:38.11 | suppaman | how does the kernel release affect chroot ? |
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| 22:38.25 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | <Tramp>:) :))) |
| 22:39.16 | Tramp | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf: what bandwidth do you typically have? (ADSL, I presume) |
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| 22:39.32 | wide_awake | ack, where are the Lenny release notes? |
| 22:39.42 | valdyn | suppaman: it doesnt, but it affects whatever program is run inside that chroot, which is /bin/bash by default, probably |
| 22:39.56 | eth01 | !lenny |
| 22:39.56 | dpkg | lenny is, like, the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. Lenny is the binoculars. ask me about <etch->lenny> |
| 22:40.00 | wide_awake | I guess it's not been released yet. |
| 22:40.02 | eth01 | !lenny docs |
| 22:40.03 | eth01 | ek |
| 22:40.07 | suppaman | so has bash a minimun kernel requirement ? |
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| 22:40.09 | pablo | is it possible to do a curses app and use svgalib to display a picture? |
| 22:40.26 | valdyn | suppaman: debians libc6 does |
| 22:40.37 | suppaman | I see |
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| 22:40.50 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | <Tramp>: We have about 2GB/s peering and 50MB/s international sreeds avaible to our clients. |
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| 22:40.59 | pablo | suppaman: is it possible to do a curses app and use svgalib to display a picture? |
| 22:41.03 | valdyn | suppaman: bash is portable, a libc6 never is |
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| 22:41.26 | AndyMcGee | Hi |
| 22:41.33 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | <Tramp>: Peering seems "All Bulgarian Networks" :)) |
| 22:41.34 | suppaman | pablo: I don't know, I remember there were great things in console with svgalib a few years ago |
| 22:41.47 | suppaman | pablo: it's very likely tho' |
| 22:42.07 | suppaman | valdyn: I'm liking this DSL |
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| 22:43.19 | BoBoLiNo_20_m_sf | <Tramp>: We have about 2Gb/s peering and 50Mb/s international sreeds avaible to our clients. :)) sorry |
| 22:44.20 | stiv2k | is there a way to like tunnel SSHFS over HTTP? |
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| 22:44.49 | suppaman | stiv2k: tunneling sshfs |
| 22:44.58 | jolt^d4 | Do you mean port 80 or using HTTP as bearer |
| 22:45.10 | stiv2k | well |
| 22:45.17 | stiv2k | i have a lot of music on a remote server |
| 22:45.26 | stiv2k | and i can stream it great from linux -> linux over SSHFS |
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| 22:45.37 | stiv2k | but there is no SSHFS for windows so i can't stream linux -> windows |
| 22:45.42 | stiv2k | so i'm looking for a solution to that |
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| 22:46.04 | stiv2k | i'd use samba if i was on the LAN with the server but I am in miami and the server is in orlando |
| 22:46.09 | suppaman | isn't sshfs a fuse fs ? |
| 22:46.14 | simonrvn | so do https if it's the crypto you want |
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| 22:46.17 | simonrvn | yes it is |
| 22:46.27 | abrotman | MOO |
| 22:46.33 | simonrvn | c0w |
| 22:46.33 | Nostahl | what do i need to get to be able to look at my ntfs hard drive on the same computer |
| 22:46.34 | stiv2k | i dont know if crypto is what i need but just a way so that only authenticated users can stream |
| 22:46.35 | AndyMcGee | i´d use rsync |
| 22:46.35 | suppaman | so that's not streaming at all |
| 22:46.44 | Ace2016 | is there an option to disable cpu frequency changing and disable the tickless stuff using options in menu.lst? |
| 22:46.44 | stiv2k | hmm??? |
| 22:46.52 | simonrvn | stiv2k: you'll want the crypto then |
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| 22:47.09 | suppaman | simonrvn: is that streaming ? aren't client just accessing a fs item ? |
| 22:47.13 | stiv2k | simonrvn: can you elaborate |
| 22:47.15 | valdyn | Ace2016: no |
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| 22:47.20 | simonrvn | depends on access method |
| 22:47.22 | Ace2016 | i want my laptop to be giving 100% all the time, no slowing down and chilling out |
| 22:47.43 | valdyn | Ace2016: aptitude purge powersaved, since you're running ubuntu |
| 22:47.54 | Ace2016 | not running ubuntu |
| 22:47.59 | Ace2016 | running debian sid :D |
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| 22:48.08 | suppaman | valdyn: I'm burning grml small |
| 22:48.17 | simonrvn | !sidsmite Ace2016 |
| 22:48.24 | abrotman | heh |
| 22:48.25 | Ace2016 | i what? |
| 22:48.30 | abrotman | you do! |
| 22:48.46 | valdyn | i wonder since when debian enables cpu frequency scaling by itself |
| 22:49.02 | abrotman | maybe if you install kde/gnome ? |
| 22:49.18 | valdyn | doubt it |
| 22:49.22 | valdyn | though i cant speak for kde |
| 22:49.29 | Ace2016 | valdyn: isn't it built into the cpu power saving scripts or something? |
| 22:49.36 | Ace2016 | its a laptop |
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| 22:50.07 | valdyn | Ace2016: so is powersaved installed? |
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| 22:50.44 | Ace2016 | nope not installed |
| 22:50.47 | wide_awake | Do I get a special decoder ring or badge or something if I successfully do a downgrade? |
| 22:50.54 | Trewas | Ace2016: you want to optimize the laptop as a lap warmer, or is there some other reason to disable frequency scaling and tickless kernel? |
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| 22:51.02 | valdyn | Ace2016: how do you know that frequency scaling is enabled? |
| 22:51.26 | Ace2016 | its a laptop that is chained to my desktop, never being moved to my lap or being moved about untill i go home for christmas |
| 22:51.30 | valdyn | Trewas: i bet its mythical "performance" he is after ;) |
| 22:51.55 | Ace2016 | ksysguard shows nice curves in the output graph |
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| 22:52.04 | stiv2k | simonrvn: access method?? |
| 22:52.05 | Trewas | valdyn: of course, that and higher electricity bills |
| 22:52.25 | Ace2016 | also ksensors is showing that is at 800hz instead of 1800hz |
| 22:52.45 | valdyn | Ace2016: what's your cpu? |
| 22:52.53 | suppaman | an 800 Mhz :-) |
| 22:52.55 | Ace2016 | Amd Turion something |
| 22:53.02 | Ace2016 | no 1.8ghz |
| 22:53.10 | valdyn | Ace2016: lsmod | grep powernow |
| 22:53.12 | pickcoder | Ace2016: it's 800Mhz at the moment |
| 22:53.16 | Ace2016 | but slows to 800mhz for some unknown reason |
| 22:53.19 | pickcoder | freq scaling must be enabled |
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| 22:53.58 | Ace2016 | no if i alt+tab and hold it, it jumps to 1800mhz since compiz-fusion needs the extra cpu speed, but there is a time lagg between the change which i need to get rid of |
| 22:54.26 | Ace2016 | ace@Linux:~/.compiz_compile$ lsmod | grep powe |
| 22:54.27 | Ace2016 | cpufreq_powersave 2816 0 |
| 22:54.33 | valdyn | Ace2016: you are aware that what you call time lag is in the millisecond region which you could never actually notice? |
| 22:54.35 | Ace2016 | thats probably it right? |
| 22:54.48 | valdyn | Ace2016: yes, blacklist that module |
| 22:54.50 | valdyn | !blacklist |
| 22:54.51 | dpkg | In etch, lenny and sid, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. For sarge ask me about <blacklist sarge>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. |
| 22:54.57 | Ace2016 | but i want to see the difference it makes |
| 22:55.11 | valdyn | Ace2016: for that you can just play with the stuff in |
| 22:55.26 | jolt^d4 | stiv2k: A better solution would be to use openvpn and us that. easy setup on the server and openvpngui for windows creates everything on that side |
| 22:55.34 | valdyn | /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq |
| 22:55.46 | jolt^d4 | stiv2k: Then yoy can just mount the drive in wintendo as usual |
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| 22:56.10 | pickcoder | openvpn is not noted for high bandwidth |
| 22:56.16 | valdyn | Ace2016: i.e. you can set the scaling_min_freq |
| 22:56.25 | karmatronic | jolt^d4: yeah openvpn rules |
| 22:56.33 | suppaman | valdyn: booting grml, don't leave me now |
| 22:56.36 | jolt^d4 | pickcoder: It doesnt matter in this case |
| 22:56.39 | valdyn | Ace2016: via something like "echo 1800000000 > scaling_min_freq" |
| 22:56.47 | stiv2k | jolt^d4: interesting, never used VPN before... got any URL explaining more in depth? |
| 22:56.50 | jolt^d4 | And compressing in openvpn does a good job even for slow connections |
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| 22:56.58 | Ace2016 | oh that seems like a good soltion |
| 22:57.05 | Nostahl | what do i do to transfer a file from my windows ntfs hard drive to my debian hd on the same computer |
| 22:57.14 | pickcoder | jolt^d4: if you say so |
| 22:57.30 | jolt^d4 | stiv2k: http://openvpn.net/static.html |
| 22:57.42 | Ace2016 | bash: scaling_min_freq: Permission denied |
| 22:57.52 | Ace2016 | cat scaling_max_freq > scaling_min_freq |
| 22:57.53 | sharingos | hi |
| 22:57.54 | valdyn | Ace2016: you can also switch scaling policies by echoing any of the scaling_available_governors into scaling_governor |
| 22:58.06 | sharingos | is it possible mounting filesystems as another user (other than root)? |
| 22:58.18 | GiabboO | hi all |
| 22:58.19 | valdyn | Ace2016: why the fuck cat |
| 22:58.24 | valdyn | Ace2016: cat != echo |
| 22:58.33 | jolt^d4 | stiv2k: I don't know how experienced you are, but you can either use openvpn as the client side just in windows just the same as command line based. But I like openvpngui (openvpn.se iirc) |
| 22:58.37 | valdyn | Ace2016: oh ops, sorry |
| 22:58.42 | valdyn | Ace2016: you need to be root in any case |
| 22:58.45 | Ace2016 | no but the command does the job right? i wanted the min to just equal max |
| 22:58.45 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, You need to mount that ntfs hard drive to read it |
| 22:58.52 | valdyn | Ace2016: yep |
| 22:58.55 | Ace2016 | yea seems sudo didn't cut it |
| 22:58.58 | robboplus_ | valdyn that was a lil harsh :) |
| 22:58.59 | GiabboO | does anyone have skill with vyatta router ? |
| 22:59.00 | suppaman | wow, grml boot is really cool |
| 22:59.04 | stiv2k | jolt^d4: thanks |
| 22:59.04 | sharingos | are you saying to me? |
| 22:59.05 | karmatronic | sharingos: use user option in /etc/fstab |
| 22:59.06 | sharingos | ?? |
| 22:59.15 | sharingos | uhm? |
| 22:59.20 | sharingos | what means user option? |
| 22:59.27 | robboplus_ | sharingos you need to be root to mount |
| 22:59.32 | sharingos | yes ok |
| 22:59.33 | sharingos | but |
| 22:59.36 | sharingos | I want that |
| 22:59.43 | sharingos | one other user |
| 22:59.48 | karmatronic | sharingos: in order to mount a file system as a regular user, and not root |
| 22:59.49 | sharingos | could access to this fs |
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| 22:59.56 | sharingos | uhm |
| 22:59.57 | Ace2016 | yea i was right, seems the lag between alt+tab and the switching going to maximum smoothness is gone, but the fans seem to now be on |
| 22:59.59 | Nostahl | andymcgee, unable to mount the selected volume |
| 23:00.08 | bronaugh | never had problem before upgrade. anyone else heard of this behaviour? apparently it affects other WMs too. |
| 23:00.11 | bronaugh | Debian Sid. |
| 23:00.16 | valdyn | Ace2016: yea, that'S expected, on notebooks particularily |
| 23:00.23 | Ace2016 | oh well |
| 23:00.27 | sharingos | for example: |
| 23:00.32 | robboplus_ | sharingos regular user will be able to access that... as long a you set permissions properly |
| 23:00.34 | sharingos | my stab is this: |
| 23:00.41 | suppaman | ... tab completion to its next level... |
| 23:00.42 | sharingos | robboplus |
| 23:00.44 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, What did you try to get it mounted? |
| 23:00.46 | sharingos | I have tried |
| 23:00.50 | valdyn | Ace2016: check your governor |
| 23:00.52 | bronaugh | urgh. I'm a tard. |
| 23:00.52 | robboplus_ | sharingos you can mount via fstab with user but you need to be root to edit fstab.. |
| 23:00.58 | sharingos | yes |
| 23:01.00 | Nostahl | andymcgee, aye thats the message it gave me |
| 23:01.01 | Ace2016 | governor? |
| 23:01.01 | sharingos | I'm root |
| 23:01.03 | valdyn | Ace2016: i.e. "cat scaling_governor" |
| 23:01.16 | sharingos | but what have I to modify? |
| 23:01.20 | robboplus_ | sharingos then mount as user in fstab a karmatronic suggested |
| 23:01.29 | sharingos | # /etc/fstab: static file system information. |
| 23:01.29 | sharingos | # |
| 23:01.29 | sharingos | # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> |
| 23:01.29 | sharingos | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
| 23:01.29 | sharingos | /dev/sda9 / reiserfs defaults 0 1 |
| 23:01.29 | Nostahl | andymcgee, error device /dev/hda1 is not removable/ error could not execute pmount |
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| 23:01.31 | valdyn | Ace2016: a governor is an algorithm that controls your frequency |
| 23:01.34 | bronaugh | I upgraded Debian Sid recently, and now when I try and do anything in ratpoison (my window manager) the X server hangs (I have to use Sysrq-K to kill it). I never had problem before this recent upgrade. anyone else heard of this behaviour? apparently it affects other WMs too |
| 23:01.34 | Ace2016 | ondemand |
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| 23:01.45 | sharingos | hi |
| 23:01.47 | robboplus_ | sharingos anyway you really don't need to mount as user just to allow a user to use the mount you created |
| 23:02.02 | valdyn | Ace2016: that'S already your best choice for quick reaction i think |
| 23:02.02 | sharingos | uhm?? |
| 23:02.07 | robboplus_ | sharingos it's all about permissions there for individual dirs or files |
| 23:02.07 | sharingos | I use debian |
| 23:02.14 | sharingos | yes |
| 23:02.24 | Ace2016 | yea i'll stick with maxing the cpu |
| 23:02.35 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, Is this a external or internal disk? |
| 23:02.36 | Nostahl | andymcgee, it says libhal-storage.c 1402 info called libhal_free_dbus_error but dbuserror was not set/ process 4590 applications must not close shared connections |
| 23:02.38 | sharingos | but it is impossible to change these permission |
| 23:02.43 | Nostahl | andymcgee, internal |
| 23:02.46 | valdyn | Ace2016: you can play with stuff on the ondemand directory too |
| 23:02.49 | Ace2016 | lots of upgrades for sid today |
| 23:02.53 | valdyn | Ace2016: i know nothing about that one though |
| 23:03.00 | Ace2016 | sharingos: what problem did you have with sid? |
| 23:03.00 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, Is it connected via IDE or SATA? |
| 23:03.02 | robboplus_ | sharingos what's wrong with chmod? |
| 23:03.07 | karmatronic | Nostahl: you re trying to mount /dev/hda when it should be /dev/hda1 .... |
| 23:03.08 | Nostahl | andymcgee ide |
| 23:03.17 | valdyn | Ace2016: but "up_threshold" looks like the candidate |
| 23:03.33 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, can you see the device and its partitions when you run "fdisk -l" ? |
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| 23:03.45 | bronaugh | ok, this is hopeless. |
| 23:03.47 | robboplus_ | fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 23:03.48 | Nostahl | andymcgee, let me check |
| 23:04.04 | wide_awake | bronaugh: when you decide to downgrade, I can help you :P |
| 23:04.16 | bronaugh | wide_awake: *shrug* it'll be a bug come release time too. |
| 23:04.19 | robboplus_ | and downgrading sucks ass.. |
| 23:04.27 | sharingos | sorry a while |
| 23:04.30 | sharingos | I'm on cell |
| 23:04.37 | suppaman | valdyn: I'm in, chrooted |
| 23:04.51 | robboplus_ | sharingos viva la italia :) |
| 23:04.58 | sharingos | lol |
| 23:05.02 | sharingos | why? |
| 23:05.10 | robboplus_ | and italian cellphones and coffee :) |
| 23:05.12 | suppaman | guess |
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| 23:05.26 | sharingos | lol |
| 23:05.34 | suppaman | you guessed |
| 23:05.43 | robboplus_ | lol |
| 23:05.45 | bronaugh | fuck it |
| 23:05.50 | suppaman | valdyn: what output did you asked for ? my history is too short |
| 23:05.55 | robboplus_ | bronaugh no porn in the channel please :s |
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| 23:06.15 | pickcoder | bronaugh: check the bug reports first |
| 23:06.32 | Nostahl | andymcgee, yea hda comes up in fdisk -l |
| 23:06.43 | bronaugh | pickcoder: already have, nothing there. |
| 23:07.01 | bronaugh | nothing filed against the ratpoison package. |
| 23:07.22 | robboplus_ | Nostahl it should say hda1, not hda |
| 23:07.32 | Nostahl | the partition is hda1 |
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| 23:07.39 | winther | hi |
| 23:07.42 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, great, so you would use a command like "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/my_ntfs_drive" to mount. It did your command look similar? |
| 23:07.42 | robboplus_ | Nostahl so mount it |
| 23:08.26 | winther | is there a way to put aditional controlls (Buttons Slider ...) on the casing and to utilize them in Linux (I want to control mythtv with it)? |
| 23:08.29 | karmatronic | Nostahl: or -t ntfs-3g for write access |
| 23:08.34 | Nostahl | andymcgee, it says does not exist |
| 23:08.53 | karmatronic | Nostahl: what does dmesg | grep hd give you ? |
| 23:09.07 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, Ok, did you create a folder where you want to mount that drive (the so called mount point) |
| 23:09.31 | Ace2016 | valdyn: oh wait i made a mistake, i was looking at the load average graph instead of the cpu graph |
| 23:10.10 | suppaman | damn can anyone pls look in history what output valdyn asked to me ? It should be around 45 minutes ago and it's out of my history |
| 23:10.12 | Nostahl | andymcgee, do i create the folder first or will that command you gave me create it and mount ? |
| 23:10.25 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, You have to create it first |
| 23:10.29 | Nostahl | k |
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| 23:10.44 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, The part "/mnt/my_ntfs_drive" was just an example .... |
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| 23:11.19 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, i also assumed that you ntfs partition is hda1. You still have to do some of the thinking ;) |
| 23:12.12 | Ace2016 | can someone name a gtk1 app, i need to see if my theme is applying to those as well |
| 23:12.29 | Nostahl | ok i did mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/C_drive |
| 23:12.57 | Nostahl | does not exist it said |
| 23:12.58 | Ace2016 | is it possible to rename root, to say bubbles, so to get root access i'd have to login as bubbles and there will no longer be 'root' |
| 23:13.17 | Ace2016 | do you have /dev/hda1? |
| 23:13.27 | karmatronic | Nostahl: mkdir /mnt/C_drive |
| 23:13.28 | Ace2016 | or /mnt/C_drive? |
| 23:13.36 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, did you create /mnt/C_drive ? Is /dev/hda1 existant? |
| 23:14.09 | Nostahl | one sec relogging its not letting me open a terminal |
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| 23:14.24 | karmatronic | Nostahl: fdisk -l | grep NTFS |
| 23:14.55 | karmatronic | Ace2016: any account with uid=0 is virtually root |
| 23:15.22 | Ace2016 | but can i get rid of root completely, so su would login as to bubbles, so a hacker would have to guess who root is |
| 23:15.39 | Ace2016 | i know someone who renamed administrator on their vista to root |
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| 23:15.47 | Ace2016 | so i want to rename my linux's root to bubbles |
| 23:15.48 | AndyMcGee | a hacker would not guess... |
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| 23:15.59 | Ace2016 | why not? |
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| 23:16.27 | AndyMcGee | A hacker would know... |
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| 23:16.36 | gonzaloaf | offtopic, I have been using thunderbird (icedove) for years, is there a file where is stored the information about the junk mail I have teach my thunderbird to manage? I want to copy that file to another new copy of thunderbird in other pc. |
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| 23:16.44 | valdyn | Ace2016: you can do that, sure |
| 23:16.50 | Nostahl | back |
| 23:17.07 | valdyn | Ace2016: but root shouldnt be able to log in remotely |
| 23:17.36 | Ace2016 | why? i don't want any remote access at all, apart form like internet access but no logins, none at all |
| 23:17.40 | Nostahl | ok |
| 23:17.44 | Nostahl | i did it |
| 23:17.47 | suppaman | nice |
| 23:17.48 | Ace2016 | did what? |
| 23:17.50 | suppaman | I got it |
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| 23:18.01 | Ace2016 | got what? |
| 23:18.01 | Nostahl | now its tellin me i dont have permission to view contents of my ntfs drive |
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| 23:18.31 | suppaman | just for knowledge I had a screwed lilo.conf as I created it by my own) so new kernel was getting a really old initrd and thus were not finding modules |
| 23:18.41 | suppaman | Ace2016: I meant I fixed my system |
| 23:18.41 | karmatronic | Nostahl: no add a line like |
| 23:18.53 | suppaman | it just started |
| 23:18.58 | suppaman | now I'm off to sleep |
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| 23:19.06 | karmatronic | Nostahl: /dev/hda1 /mnt/C_drive ntfs-3g noauto,user,umask=000,force 0 0 |
| 23:19.15 | karmatronic | Nostahl: in /etc/fstab |
| 23:19.18 | Ace2016 | oh i should sleep too but synaptic is updating |
| 23:19.28 | karmatronic | Nostahl: all on the same line |
| 23:19.32 | suppaman | synaptic does |
| 23:19.34 | Nostahl | what are the 0's |
| 23:19.55 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, nice question ;) |
| 23:20.18 | karmatronic | Nostahl: i think |
| 23:20.39 | karmatronic | Nostahl: fifht column indicates back up frequence of the file system |
| 23:20.42 | \amethyst | Nostahl: first one means it doesn't need to be dump(8)ed, second one means don't fsck it |
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| 23:22.35 | Nostahl | karmatronic, in the user spot do i put the user name i use to log into windows when booting up the ntfs hd? |
| 23:22.50 | karmatronic | Nostahl: no |
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| 23:22.54 | \amethyst | Nostahl: no, it's the word "user" |
| 23:22.58 | Nostahl | k |
| 23:23.06 | karmatronic | Nostahl: user directive means you dont have to be root to mount the fs |
| 23:23.14 | \amethyst | Nostahl: that means users can mount it, and the user that mounted it can unmount it |
| 23:23.17 | Nostahl | k |
| 23:23.30 | Nostahl | so just copy word for word then |
| 23:23.35 | karmatronic | Nostahl: k is your shortcut for ok ? |
| 23:23.43 | Nostahl | aye |
| 23:23.45 | karmatronic | k |
| 23:23.49 | \amethyst | l |
| 23:24.03 | \amethyst | what, did I do something wrong? |
| 23:24.05 | Nostahl | one over to the left amethyst :) |
| 23:24.08 | karmatronic | :) |
| 23:24.22 | Nostahl | woohoo i helped someone too :P |
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| 23:24.55 | Nostahl | ok so save fstab and then reboot? |
| 23:25.10 | \amethyst | Êž |
| 23:25.19 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, you dont have to reboot |
| 23:25.19 | karmatronic | Nostahl: you dont need to reboot |
| 23:25.22 | Nostahl | k |
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| 23:25.37 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, mount -a |
| 23:25.38 | karmatronic | Nostahl: reboot is only needed when you change kernel |
| 23:25.50 | karmatronic | Nostahl: or maybe whith some tricky udev rules |
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| 23:26.41 | Nostahl | k im typin /etc/fstab as root and it says permission denied? |
| 23:26.52 | \amethyst | Nostahl: you're trying to run it? |
| 23:27.04 | \amethyst | Nostahl: if you want to edit it you need to run an editor |
| 23:27.10 | Nostahl | was trying to open it to edit it with permissions |
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| 23:27.25 | \amethyst | Nostahl: nano /etc/passwd # or some other editor you like |
| 23:27.29 | \amethyst | err |
| 23:27.38 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, you need to be root to edit that file |
| 23:27.39 | \amethyst | not /etc/passwd, /etc/fstab obviously |
| 23:28.29 | Nostahl | k |
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| 23:29.38 | Nostahl | k i typed it in with nano |
| 23:29.55 | Nostahl | how do i save it |
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| 23:30.15 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, Ctrl-X |
| 23:30.18 | Nostahl | k |
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| 23:30.42 | Nostahl | k its saved |
| 23:30.45 | Nostahl | let me doublecheck |
| 23:30.57 | Nostahl | yep saved |
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| 23:30.59 | Nostahl | now what |
| 23:31.02 | karmatronic | Nostahl: there also exists X-editors like gedit or kate |
| 23:31.23 | karmatronic | Nostahl: now time for fun ! |
| 23:31.39 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, If your drive is still mounted from the prior expermiments you need to unmount it fist |
| 23:31.56 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, check if its mounted by running "mount" w/o any parameters |
| 23:32.09 | Nostahl | i just umount /dev/hda1 |
| 23:32.25 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, Great, so now you just run "mount -a" |
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| 23:32.47 | Nostahl | k did that |
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| 23:32.54 | Nostahl | is it suppose to pop anything up? |
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| 23:33.05 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, That will mount all volumes that are in fstab and are not mounted yet |
| 23:33.06 | AndyMcGee | no |
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| 23:33.26 | Nostahl | k |
| 23:33.29 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, If it says nothing, everythings fine (thats a general rule for unix) |
| 23:33.35 | Nostahl | ok |
| 23:33.44 | karmatronic | Nostahl: browse /mnt/C_drive as your regular user and check you can access |
| 23:33.50 | cgs_bob | hello all. I'm a Red Hat user who is checking out Debian :) Is there a command that will allow me to search for a particular package and optionally report on installed packages? |
| 23:33.58 | Nostahl | the folder is empty |
| 23:34.29 | karmatronic | cgs_bob: aptitude search your_package |
| 23:34.42 | karmatronic | cgs_bob: apt-cache search your_package |
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| 23:34.57 | karmatronic | cgs_bob: or use gui like synaptic |
| 23:35.02 | kameron | how do you fdisk /mbr from linux? i think there's a grub option but i forget how. |
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| 23:35.19 | karmatronic | cgs_bob: to list all installed packages , dpkg -L |
| 23:35.42 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, check fstab by running "cat /etc/fstab" |
| 23:35.57 | cgs_bob | karmatronic: will that show me only installed packages too? and will I be able to save that info into a file? |
| 23:36.04 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, Doublecheck if the line about your ntfs drive is in there |
| 23:36.15 | cgs_bob | karmatronic: thanks a bunch! that is what I need |
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| 23:36.51 | Nostahl | i dont think it liked the ntfs-3g |
| 23:36.52 | karmatronic | cgs_bob: dpkg -l |grep ii > my_packages |
| 23:37.12 | Nostahl | i tryed typing just mount /dev/hda1 |
| 23:37.13 | karmatronic | Nostahl: yeah , you might not have fuse module on your system , nor ntfs-3g |
| 23:37.25 | Nostahl | and it said uknown filesystem type ntfs-3g |
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| 23:37.34 | Nostahl | so i went back into nano |
| 23:37.38 | Nostahl | took that out and just put ntfs |
| 23:37.43 | Nostahl | resaved |
| 23:37.57 | karmatronic | Nostahl: right |
| 23:38.04 | Nostahl | did cat /etc/fstab |
| 23:38.10 | Nostahl | its showing up well now |
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| 23:38.43 | Nostahl | i tryed mount /dev/hda1 for fun again |
| 23:39.03 | Nostahl | says mount; wrong fs type, bad option , bad superblock on /dev/hda1 |
| 23:39.07 | Nostahl | missing codepage or other error |
| 23:39.21 | Nostahl | in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so |
| 23:39.53 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, ok, are you 100% that hda1 is your ntfs partition? Maby its hda2 or hda3 .... |
| 23:40.01 | Nostahl | its hda1 |
| 23:40.16 | Nostahl | there's only one partition on that hd it just has xp on it |
| 23:40.27 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, ok |
| 23:40.33 | karmatronic | Nostahl: didnt it work before with long command line ? |
| 23:41.34 | Nostahl | i just typed mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/C_drive |
| 23:41.34 | osbee | I wanted to ask an off the wall question but one that's gradually starting to puzzle me. I'm a Linux Newbie using Etch and the when I am downloading a file here and on one of my other boxes this one always seems to get the lions share of the bandwidth. Is this just a coincidence? It seems to consistent but then I suppose it just must be a coincidence because any other explanation makes even less sense? |
| 23:41.36 | pickcoder | Nostahl: are you sure it was formatted with NTFS? |
| 23:41.43 | Nostahl | and tells me i donot have permission to view contents |
| 23:41.49 | Nostahl | aye it is ntfs |
| 23:41.53 | pickcoder | does fdisk say it is? |
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| 23:41.56 | Nostahl | yes |
| 23:42.09 | Nostahl | is windows telling me i dont have permission |
| 23:42.12 | Nostahl | or is debian telling me? |
| 23:42.15 | suppaman | wow building the wifi module really hurted the box |
| 23:42.17 | suppaman | it froze |
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| 23:42.33 | AndyMcGee | Nostahl, Linux is telling you |
| 23:42.50 | Nostahl | k was just wondering about some sort of encryption or something |
| 23:43.01 | karmatronic | Nostahl: no |
| 23:43.11 | De_Mon | osbee both computers are competing for the same bandwidth |
| 23:43.22 | Nostahl | so what could be doing it if im running these commands as root |
| 23:43.35 | karmatronic | Nostahl: do you have the ntfs module ? |
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| 23:43.46 | Nostahl | how do i check |
| 23:43.55 | karmatronic | Nostahl: modinfo ntfs |
| 23:44.02 | karmatronic | Nostahl: should return something |
| 23:44.07 | osbee | De_Mon yeah but this one always wins that's what seems odd and not by a little this one gets around 2/3 |
| 23:44.19 | Nostahl | yea it returned something |
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| 23:44.35 | karmatronic | Nostahl: so you have ntfs |
| 23:44.41 | Nostahl | appears so |
| 23:44.43 | Nostahl | ntfs.ko |
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| 23:45.02 | kingcrim | i have a quick question here... really quick. |
| 23:45.05 | suppaman | module-assistant build screwed up the kernel itself, it's starting anymore, it just dump a lot of info an complaints about a null dereference |
| 23:45.13 | kingcrim | i did passwd --delete root |
| 23:45.19 | kingcrim | but its still asking for one and my old one doesnt work |
| 23:45.21 | kingcrim | am i screwed? |
| 23:45.33 | suppaman | kingcrim: who asks for a passwd ? |
| 23:45.40 | karmatronic | Nostahl: mount -t ntfs -o noauto,user,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/C_drive |
| 23:45.47 | kingcrim | well when i do su |
| 23:45.51 | kingcrim | it still asks for a password |
| 23:45.58 | kingcrim | if i leave it blank it doesnt work |
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| 23:46.01 | kingcrim | and my old one doesnt work |
| 23:46.06 | suppaman | use sudo su |
| 23:46.12 | osbee | kingcrim doesn't it go back to the default "root" |
| 23:46.18 | kingcrim | this user account isnt in /etc/sudoers though |
| 23:46.19 | osbee | that is just a wild guess |
| 23:46.27 | kingcrim | osbee: maybe... i'll try |
| 23:46.27 | dondelelcaro | kingcrim: uh... deleting the password makes it invalid. |
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| 23:46.34 | Nostahl | that worked! |
| 23:46.36 | Nostahl | woot |
| 23:46.44 | kingcrim | yeah root doesnt work |
| 23:46.49 | suppaman | go in single user and change it |
| 23:46.50 | kingcrim | it makes it invalid... as in i'm screwed? |
| 23:47.21 | De_Mon | osbee what does grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo |
| 23:47.25 | Nostahl | karmatronic, k how do i add that to fstab now |
| 23:47.28 | De_Mon | say for both computers? |
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| 23:48.05 | karmatronic | Nostahl: /dev/hda1 /mnt/C_drive noauto,user,umask=000 0 0 |
| 23:48.22 | karmatronic | Nostahl: all on the same line |
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| 23:48.48 | osbee | De_Mon it says 799 - this is by far the slowest box |
| 23:49.00 | osbee | it's counterintuitive |
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| 23:50.01 | Cusoon959 | I sometimes download multi-rar releases from bittorrent...how do I unrar these? |
| 23:50.04 | osbee | De_Mon the other runs windows |
| 23:50.16 | Cusoon959 | with file.r00, file.r01, file.r03 and file.rar |
| 23:50.19 | Cusoon959 | like that |
| 23:50.23 | osbee | De_Mon is there an equivalent place to look? |
| 23:50.25 | pickcoder | Cusoon959: do you have unrar? |
| 23:50.26 | De_Mon | osbee wait, you're comparing a windows computer to a linux computer? |
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| 23:50.35 | Cusoon959 | pickcoder: unrar-free... |
| 23:50.37 | Cusoon959 | >.> |
| 23:50.39 | osbee | De_Mon yeah sorry |
| 23:50.43 | De_Mon | osbee they use completely different tcp/ip implimentations. One is just better than the other! |
| 23:50.47 | Cusoon959 | I think unrar works with it |
| 23:50.47 | kingcrim | i'm going see if i can boot deb into recovery mode and regain root access |
| 23:50.51 | Cusoon959 | but not unrar-free |
| 23:50.56 | Cusoon959 | How do I install unrar? |
| 23:51.18 | De_Mon | osbee another posibility is that one network card is better than the other... |
| 23:51.21 | pickcoder | it should recognize the split volumes |
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| 23:51.26 | pickcoder | if you unrar the main .rar file |
| 23:51.35 | Cusoon959 | doesn't work, pickcoder |
| 23:51.40 | Cusoon959 | not with unrar-free at least |
| 23:51.45 | osbee | De_Mon actually that is possible isn't it - this one is newer |
| 23:51.46 | Cusoon959 | it worked with ubuntu and unrar... |
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| 23:52.13 | osbee | I sort of put this box together with bit s and pieces but i had to buy a network card |
| 23:52.15 | Cusoon959 | Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 23:52.17 | Cusoon959 | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 23:52.17 | Cusoon959 | is only available from another source |
| 23:52.17 | Cusoon959 | E: Package unrar has no installation candidate |
| 23:52.21 | De_Mon | osbee its possible, but I'm going to go with the anti-microsoft answer if you don't mind :) |
| 23:52.26 | Cusoon959 | that happens when I try to install unrar or unrar-nonfree |
| 23:53.27 | osbee | De_Mon it may well be true - I have no reason to think there's anything wrong with the one in the Windows comp |
| 23:53.45 | Cusoon959 | pickcoder: any suggestions? |
| 23:53.51 | OlaX | Cusoon959: Did you try unrar-free ? |
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| 23:54.03 | Cusoon959 | OlaX: doesn't work... |
| 23:54.05 | osbee | I'm certainly not swapping to find out - I cut my hand open putting this together |
| 23:54.09 | Cusoon959 | with multirar |
| 23:54.13 | osbee | I'd never make an engineer |
| 23:54.21 | elmo40 | Cusoon959: unrar installs on my computer. |
| 23:54.34 | OlaX | Cusoon959: You could add non-free to your sources.list |
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| 23:54.54 | Cusoon959 | OlaX: Hmm... :D I'll try that |
| 23:55.23 | Cusoon959 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch non-free |
| 23:55.25 | Cusoon959 | will that work? |
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| 23:56.06 | pickcoder | don't remove main |
| 23:56.16 | pickcoder | etch main non-free |
| 23:56.44 | OlaX | Cusoon959: you would add it on an existing line, something like this: "deb http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ etch main contrib non-free" |
| 23:56.56 | Cusoon959 | ah |
| 23:56.59 | Cusoon959 | ok, thanks OlaX |
| 23:57.10 | OlaX | No problem Cusoon959 |
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| 23:58.00 | suppaman | in my next life I won't buy a wifi adapter who isn't well supported by linux |
| 23:58.02 | De_Mon | osbee to answer your other question, windows doesn't have an equivlent to "bogomips" |
| 23:58.06 | suppaman | it's really a pain |
| 23:59.07 | pickcoder | suppaman: it could be worse.. you could be stuck with Vista.. <g> |