| 00:00.59 | DustyBin | am i right in thinking that if one uses wireless at home they should really be accessing the LAN via a VPN ? |
| 00:01.39 | DustyBin | if somone hacks the wireless, all they would be able to see is a VPN port which they wont have access to? |
| 00:01.50 | gordonjcp | DustyBin: well |
| 00:01.56 | gordonjcp | *yes* that would be a good way to do it |
| 00:02.02 | DustyBin | however, |
| 00:02.10 | gordonjcp | *no* it's probably not strictly speaking necessary |
| 00:02.19 | DustyBin | why not? |
| 00:02.26 | esp177 | dusty: if u use wpa with 64 digit random key it is virtually impossible to hack |
| 00:02.39 | DustyBin | i thought all wireless was insecure |
| 00:02.42 | gordonjcp | well mostly because even if you've got 64-bit WEP, no-one will bother to crack it |
| 00:02.43 | notfundesktop | how did that thing work again where you put a file system ID into fstab and not a device name? |
| 00:02.57 | gordonjcp | because the guy three doors down with "belkin54g" is open anyway |
| 00:02.58 | esp177 | wep is insecure |
| 00:03.07 | DustyBin | hehe |
| 00:03.12 | eth01 | whats the best way of firewall protecting the connection into your server? |
| 00:03.22 | DustyBin | wpa is insecure too? i thought that can be cracked pretty easy too? |
| 00:03.27 | gordonjcp | esp177: WPA isn't much better tbh |
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| 00:03.38 | gordonjcp | DustyBin: it's not if you go the whole nine yards |
| 00:03.54 | gordonjcp | if you just treat it like WEP but with a larger keyspace you don't really gain much |
| 00:03.56 | esp177 | you can brute force wpa, if u have simple password |
| 00:03.57 | DustyBin | the nine yards is by using a 64-bit key? |
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| 00:04.20 | gordonjcp | DustyBin: no, it's using all sorts of crazy RADIUS servers and certificates and madness |
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| 00:04.37 | DustyBin | jeeze, not ideal, its easier to setup a VPN |
| 00:04.50 | DustyBin | VPN = also encrypted too |
| 00:04.57 | gordonjcp | if you've got anything *that* interesting on your network that someone suitably determined would actually *want* to break in, then you probably don't want wireless |
| 00:04.58 | DustyBin | so a hacker couldnt sniff much eitther |
| 00:05.07 | gordonjcp | "cracker", please ;-) |
| 00:05.11 | DustyBin | aye yes |
| 00:05.12 | gordonjcp | yeah |
| 00:05.36 | gordonjcp | it's worth bearing in mind that those wireless chip and pin terminals use 128-bit WEP |
| 00:05.50 | esp177 | a wpa would be better than vpn over an unsecure net |
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| 00:06.07 | gordonjcp | and one large supermarket in the UK uses 64-bit WEP with the same key for all its stores to connect its "Mobile Tills" up to the store systems |
| 00:06.16 | DustyBin | jeeze |
| 00:06.31 | gordonjcp | couldn't possibly say who, though |
| 00:06.46 | gordonjcp | 'cos I used to do tech support for them |
| 00:06.52 | DustyBin | aye ok |
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| 00:07.38 | gordonjcp | even if they used a unique key per store, it would be an improvement |
| 00:07.43 | creature | I've built a custom kernel (yes, I know it's not the right way to do things, but that's the way my system is right now). Can I add more modules to it without having to reboot? |
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| 00:08.04 | esp177 | a while back 60 minuttes went wardriving to the big stores in the usa....a lot of open networks arround |
| 00:08.19 | gordonjcp | esp177: indeed |
| 00:08.25 | DustyBin | who is adm on the debian system? |
| 00:08.27 | DustyBin | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 86825 2007-12-14 00:07 auth.log |
| 00:08.52 | DustyBin | why does adm have the permission to read logs? |
| 00:08.53 | gordonjcp | if they even used 128-bit keys, although I suspect the elderly Cisco Aironets they use don't deal with 128-bit |
| 00:09.02 | gordonjcp | but still, "Every Little Helps", as they say |
| 00:09.07 | gordonjcp | ;-) |
| 00:09.18 | DustyBin | gordonjcp: are you adm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:09.24 | abrotman | lay off |
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| 00:09.47 | gordonjcp | DustyBin: but in general, 64-bit WEP is trivial to crack but better than nothing |
| 00:09.55 | gordonjcp | DustyBin: and it only gets better from there |
| 00:09.56 | DustyBin | aye ok |
| 00:10.14 | esp177 | ye, wep will stop my mom and most of her friends |
| 00:10.21 | gordonjcp | DustyBin: incidentally I run 64-bit WEP because I have some old equipment at home that doesn't much like newer protocols |
| 00:10.43 | gordonjcp | but then I run an open wireless network as well, which has a certain amount of filtering and logging |
| 00:10.45 | DustyBin | i might be buying some axis wireless cameras what work over wpa |
| 00:11.19 | gordonjcp | DustyBin: it's worth googling for strings on the admin page of the Axis cams |
| 00:11.35 | gordonjcp | you'd be amazed how many are sitting on routable IPs with the default passwords |
| 00:11.41 | esp177 | if you want to go the vpn way, atleast do wpa with shared key to |
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| 00:11.51 | DustyBin | gordonjcp: aye ill check |
| 00:11.57 | techrush | whats up abrotman |
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| 00:12.05 | DustyBin | im a lenny user, but a XFCE lenny user :D |
| 00:12.05 | abrotman | techrush: do you use the deskbar? |
| 00:12.10 | techrush | no |
| 00:12.14 | abrotman | no help! |
| 00:12.16 | techrush | :[ |
| 00:12.22 | abrotman | it used to have a text box to enter commands .. it's gone |
| 00:12.38 | techrush | i remember hearing that they made some changed to it |
| 00:12.49 | DustyBin | abrotman: its down on the bottom left you silly sod :P |
| 00:12.52 | techrush | i never cared for it much to begin with |
| 00:13.06 | abrotman | DustyBin: not anymore |
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| 00:14.19 | DustyBin | i found the bastard |
| 00:14.21 | DustyBin | adm:x:4: |
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| 00:15.52 | DustyBin | if anyone needs to secure a box, i recommend this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 00:15.56 | Penix | abrotman: IIRC it defaults to just an icon now |
| 00:16.04 | abrotman | useless crap! |
| 00:16.11 | Penix | you can tell it to go back |
| 00:16.18 | Penix | to text input |
| 00:16.26 | abrotman | i can't find the option |
| 00:18.12 | notfundesktop | is it possible to identify non-ext2/3 partitions with a "LABEL" or a "UUID", i.e. swap or ntfs partitions? |
| 00:18.22 | creature | Is there any way I can 'reset' the groups I'm in without having to reload X? |
| 00:19.09 | esp177 | notfundesktop: you can check what fdisk say |
| 00:19.12 | notfundesktop | creature: no... but you can login new within X by i.e. doing "su <user>" on the shell; this shell should have the new groups then AFAIK |
| 00:19.36 | creature | notfundesktop: It does indeed, thanks. |
| 00:20.09 | notfundesktop | esp177: what do you mean? I know the device names, but these may change when devices get physically changed etc. |
| 00:20.20 | notfundesktop | changed as in a drive is removed or added to the PC |
| 00:21.03 | fr33k | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.53 | esp177 | notfundesktop: would this work? "udevinfo -q env -n /dev/sdb1" to get drive data....then uuid in fstab |
| 00:22.00 | Tramp | Is ther no real "editing in place" with sed as I can do with ed? sed -i makes a temporary copy of the file, then copies it back. Thus the inode changes - unlike when I work with ed. |
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| 00:22.48 | asAMDPower | hi... |
| 00:22.51 | notfundesktop | esp177: ah... and I can put in the value of the "ID_FS_UUID" field as UUID into fstab? |
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| 00:23.15 | asAMDPower | where can i buy this kind of tshirts? http://www.linux.it/~napo/uploads/Home/Debian-girl.jpg .. my girlfriend wants one.. she is a debian fangirl |
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| 00:23.19 | robboplus | how crazy is it to NOT have 127.0.0.1 route in routing table? |
| 00:23.42 | robboplus | i mean can that have bad influence on networking performance of the host? |
| 00:23.50 | esp177 | notfundesktop: "UUID=f07c12ba-8add-48cc-9886-142ac6069ddf /mnt/sdb1 ext3 defaults 0 0" my fstab line |
| 00:24.19 | notfundesktop | esp177: yay... though I get "ID_FS_UUID=8A142F9A142F8871" (looks very different, is it correct?) |
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| 00:24.29 | rwp | Isn't it normal not to have 127.0.0.1 in the routing table? |
| 00:24.44 | esp177 | notfundesktop: just ignore the part before uuid |
| 00:24.55 | robboplus | rwp i don't know.. don't have it but i saw some post on newsgroups and guy had it there... |
| 00:25.08 | notfundesktop | esp177: of course, but I didn't mean the field name |
| 00:25.16 | notfundesktop | esp177: anyway, I'll test it, ty |
| 00:25.31 | robboplus | rwp i can't figure out why my ip aliases act like an analog mode speed-wise... while main ip is fine |
| 00:25.44 | robboplus | so looking deep in routing table.. |
| 00:25.53 | robboplus | modem* |
| 00:25.58 | rwp | asAMDPower, If you find out where to get that tshirt please say here too because I would like it too. :-) |
| 00:26.07 | esp177 | notfundesktop: the uuid can vary a lot "#UUID=206A-1009" that is the uuid of another of my disks |
| 00:26.19 | asAMDPower | rwp, its a girly tshirt ;) |
| 00:26.31 | notfundesktop | also, swap doesn't seem to have a UUID... but swap isn't so important |
| 00:26.42 | rwp | asAMDPower, Yes, for my girlfriend! |
| 00:26.45 | asAMDPower | ah okay :) |
| 00:27.23 | rwp | robboplus, I don't have 127.0.0.1 in my routing table. All is normal. |
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| 00:27.47 | rwp | I have two routing table entries. One for the local network interface (192.168.1.0) and one for the default route. |
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| 00:30.11 | rwp | asAMDPower, I would search for Debian on http://www.cafepress.com and see what you turn up. I have gotten other Debian t-shirts there. Good luck! |
| 00:30.22 | notfundesktop | the debian installer created a default fstab entry for the floppy, but not for the cdrom... how can I rerun this auto-detection thing to add a cdrom entry? |
| 00:30.36 | asAMDPower | rwp, yea but im looking for something in holland/germany |
| 00:30.54 | asAMDPower | i found one |
| 00:30.56 | asAMDPower | in germany ;) |
| 00:31.05 | asAMDPower | http://www.tuxman.de/images/product_images/popup_images/115_0.jpg |
| 00:31.38 | rwp | robboplus, Just as a debug point, try pinging your localhost address. It should be fast. If so then that subsystem should all be fine. |
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| 00:31.44 | esp177 | notfundesktop: "/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0" that is mine |
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| 00:32.17 | rwp | Try CafePress. I think they ship anywhere. |
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| 00:32.25 | icemario | how do I reset my resolution for X? |
| 00:32.33 | abrotman | !drxx |
| 00:32.33 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about <xmd5sum> if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 00:32.45 | notfundesktop | esp177: ty... but automagically? |
| 00:32.51 | rwp | Ah, you *want* one in Germany. Sorry I misread that. Glad you found one! |
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| 00:33.11 | fdczin | vserv |
| 00:34.26 | esp177 | notfundesktop: not sure, but if u change noauto to auto it will try to mount every time on startup, so dont do that |
| 00:35.32 | disposable | why when i compile my own kernel, i get cdroms as scdX and if i use debian original, they're hdX? what am i missing in .config? |
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| 00:36.12 | abrotman | disposable: you tell us? |
| 00:36.21 | disposable | abrotman: :) |
| 00:36.27 | abrotman | disposable: diff ? :) |
| 00:37.02 | icemario | what's a good browser I can install for a system with 192MB of RAM? |
| 00:37.27 | abrotman | icemario: depends what else you want it to do |
| 00:37.40 | icemario | just read plain old html |
| 00:37.43 | doughie | links |
| 00:37.44 | doughie | :) |
| 00:37.48 | karsten | icemario: Konqueror or Firefox, but keep it easy on simultaneous pages loaded. |
| 00:37.48 | esp177 | dispo: hdX is a ide thing and scdX is scsi....is there a ide scsi thing in the config? |
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| 00:38.23 | karsten | icemario: dillo, links, w3m are lightweight. There's BrowseX (not to be confused with BrowSex), a Tcl/Tk browser. |
| 00:38.25 | dvs | esp177: there are SCSI CD drivers in the kernel |
| 00:38.37 | notfundesktop | disposable: for cdroms, you have /dev/cdrom |
| 00:38.40 | icemario | what's the most lightweight? links? |
| 00:38.46 | icemario | what about lynx? |
| 00:38.52 | creature | These days, do I have to have custom modules loaded to use an infrared remote control? |
| 00:38.54 | esp177 | dvs: but not a read scsi as ide thing? |
| 00:38.57 | icemario | what's the difference between links and lynx? |
| 00:39.06 | dvs | esp177: no |
| 00:39.23 | disposable | icemario: i have a laptop with 128 and opera runs faster than anything. then konqueror. although, opera sometimes struggles with streamed video in flash (youtube,etc). i can't run videos in more than 1 tab. but that might be just my problem |
| 00:39.34 | Eclipser | icemario, I use firefox on my laptop (600MHz, 192MB ram) just fine |
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| 00:39.43 | rwp | links is a great text browser but it has the most terrible name because it cannot be searched for. |
| 00:39.44 | abrotman | icemario: you probably want links2 |
| 00:39.46 | karsten | icemario: lynx is light, but I find it a usability nightmare. |
| 00:39.50 | doughie | chrooting into an environment is exactly the same as booting into it isnt it? |
| 00:40.02 | Eclipser | icemario, even with about 30 tabs I didn't have any problems with it whatsoever :) |
| 00:40.03 | esp177 | dvs: k, :) |
| 00:40.04 | snacky | I usually use elinks |
| 00:40.08 | karsten | icemario: links and w3m both do a decent job of rendering tables and such, you get more usable sites, usually, than lynx. |
| 00:40.26 | rwp | doughie, chroot'ing is not even close to booting. |
| 00:40.50 | snacky | elinks is supposed to do some things links doesn't, but I forget what they are. |
| 00:41.00 | doughie | rwp if i install packages which chrooting into an environment will they be there when i boot into it? |
| 00:41.02 | rwp | At boot time a number of system processes are started. Lifted by their own bootstraps. But when chrooting all of that infrasture is already running. The process is simply changing the root. |
| 00:41.04 | icemario | all I want to do is real text |
| 00:41.08 | icemario | plain old ascii |
| 00:41.12 | icemario | read* |
| 00:41.31 | rwp | doughie, I do not understand your question. |
| 00:41.48 | barnbarn | icemario: don't know if anyone has suggested it, but w3m? |
| 00:41.49 | rwp | doughie, I think you should simply try it. Work through some chroot use case example. Then you will understand it better. |
| 00:41.56 | icemario | what is w3m like? |
| 00:42.09 | esp177 | icemario: lynx is a good text only browser |
| 00:42.16 | rwp | doughie, You might start here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 00:42.20 | doughie | rwp, if i chroot into my environment (after mounting it on another box) and install something will it be present when i put the disk back in box |
| 00:42.21 | barnbarn | uses a lot of vi keybindings, does tabs, fast, isn't annoying in ways lynx is |
| 00:42.28 | snacky | icemario: wget url -O - |less |
| 00:42.29 | karsten | Anyone know of a way to read an Apple Mac OS X iWork "Pages" document in Linux? |
| 00:42.40 | abrotman | karsten: vi ? |
| 00:42.42 | rwp | doughie, yes. |
| 00:42.43 | doughie | rwp, sounds like a yes |
| 00:42.45 | doughie | cool |
| 00:42.49 | karsten | icemario: It's like links but better ;-) |
| 00:42.54 | abrotman | karsten: strings? :) |
| 00:43.00 | rwp | Inside the chroot all of the files are simply files on disk. |
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| 00:43.15 | rwp | Installing files in a chroot leaves the installed files on the disk in the installed location. |
| 00:43.26 | karsten | icemario: w3m is probably better once you've become familiar with it, links tends to do more user hand-holding. |
| 00:43.31 | rwp | When you move the disk to another machine the files will still be on disk in the same location. |
| 00:43.36 | icemario | less, command not found |
| 00:43.51 | karsten | abrotman: Thank you kindly sir. "Less" (after uncompressing/untarring) shows an XML clusterf*ck. |
| 00:43.56 | rwp | I have often installed on a big fast machine with lots of memory and then moved the disk to the slow machine without memory in order to get something running there. |
| 00:44.01 | rwp | Same as a chroot. |
| 00:44.12 | rwp | icemario, apt-get install less |
| 00:44.16 | doughie | thanks |
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| 00:44.23 | abrotman | karsten: boo hiss boo |
| 00:44.35 | karsten | Yeah |
| 00:44.57 | icemario | I want to be able to click on links though |
| 00:45.02 | icemario | I don't think wget cuts it |
| 00:45.04 | abrotman | dillo ? |
| 00:45.23 | Tramp | Is there a more comfortable way to edit a file (which I own) in a directory (where I don't have write permission) non-interactively than ed? |
| 00:45.30 | esp177 | icemario: tried lynx? |
| 00:45.33 | karsten | Tramp: sed. |
| 00:45.40 | jolt^d4 | karsten: most of the apple-apps files are just directories, so inside them are just regular files (often xml based) and eventual images. Although I don't know a easy way of looking at them as you would with opening a word file in oo |
| 00:45.40 | rwp | text only browsers don't generally have mouse support. (ALthough some do use the xterm mouse extensions. I really hate those. Personal preference.) |
| 00:45.49 | Tramp | karsten: nope. Tries to make a temporary file in the dir |
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| 00:46.05 | Tramp | karsten: sed -i and perl -i both failed |
| 00:46.08 | barnbarn | rwp: w3m certainly does, it even works via Putty, which is just freaky the first time you use it |
| 00:46.21 | karsten | Tramp: sed < file > /tmp/file && mv /tmp/file file |
| 00:46.35 | karsten | Tramp: The '&&' executes the second part of the argument only if hte first succeeds. |
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| 00:46.51 | rwp | barnbarn, Right. And annoying. If I had wanted a mouse based browser I would have used one. |
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| 00:46.59 | karsten | Tramp: ... mind you might just want to run sed, redirect, check the results, and copy the copy over the original manually. |
| 00:47.04 | YouNewNick | cool plugin -> http://conankov.myminicity.com/ |
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| 00:47.14 | karsten | Tramp: If you're doing this on a bunch of files I'd operate in a shell loop on a list, or write a script. |
| 00:47.16 | barnbarn | rwp: have you ever used it with image support though? that's just twisted science (: |
| 00:47.33 | rwp | barnbarn, I have not used that. Sounds perverse. :-) |
| 00:47.58 | Tramp | karsten: would not work. As I said, I dont have write-permission in the dir. mv and cp both require write-permission |
| 00:48.06 | rwp | Tramp, sed < file > /tmp/file && cat /tmp/file > file |
| 00:48.12 | hatter | is anyone aware of anything to use instead of webmin for customers who like doing GUI config ? |
| 00:48.18 | rwp | Tramp, Avoids needing write access to the directory. |
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| 00:48.34 | abrotman | hatter: not in debian |
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| 00:49.12 | karsten | Tramp: Then redirect onto the existing file. |
| 00:49.17 | stew | i've toyed around with making vhcs2 packages,, but its a bit of a nightmare |
| 00:49.18 | karsten | Tramp: cat /tmp/file >file |
| 00:49.32 | hatter | abrotman, how much demand has there been of the debian gnome team for the gnome GUI ? are people using it ? |
| 00:49.56 | hatter | if you know, that is |
| 00:49.57 | abrotman | hatter: huh for what? via the web? |
| 00:50.13 | hatter | just for general use, for server stuff, adding users etc |
| 00:50.35 | abrotman | via the web or at the console ? |
| 00:50.42 | icemario | what were the GUI browsers again? |
| 00:50.50 | icemario | only have 192MB of ram |
| 00:50.52 | hatter | i still use a command prompt for everything, but i am starting to put samba server in for my customers and they want it to look like windows |
| 00:50.55 | icemario | (virtual machine) |
| 00:50.56 | abrotman | icemario: dillo is kind of small |
| 00:51.03 | hatter | abrotman, via the console |
| 00:51.10 | abrotman | hatter: gnome might work .. though i've never used it for admin work |
| 00:51.30 | hatter | which is the thing, if no-one uses it for admin work, it would get no attention |
| 00:51.46 | icemario | so dillo is the best lightweight browser |
| 00:51.48 | abrotman | i'm saying *I* don't .. |
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| 00:51.52 | doughie | how do i specify to apt a version for the package i want to install |
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| 00:51.55 | abrotman | icemario: it's an option |
| 00:52.15 | ricosecada | When kde 4.0 is released, how long would it take - aprox - before it goes into stable? |
| 00:52.41 | hatter | abrotman, yes neither do i. and no-one speaks of it in here |
| 00:52.53 | hatter | in #ubuntu its all chatter about GUI stuff |
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| 00:53.13 | dvs | ricosecada: it won't get into 4.0. It'll have to wait until 4.1/5.0 |
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| 00:53.20 | abrotman | hatter: so let your users try it |
| 00:53.37 | stew | ricosecada: somewhere from 6 months to a couple of years. stable never gets new packages, so it would have to get into testing and then wait for another debian release |
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| 00:53.52 | hatter | i have tried it, its still got some rough edges that i dont want to support |
| 00:54.32 | Tramp | karsten: rwp: ok, thanks. the cp/edit/cat works. |
| 00:54.34 | karsten | OK, I've mostly managed to read the document by stripping out all the XML tags, *AND* the garbage text that's added. |
| 00:54.45 | debianfreak | hi people. For some reason I have no /dev/fd on my Debian Etch. I have no idea why. I also wouldn't care, except it's causing an error in some named pipes for some reason. Why would I not have a /dev/fd? And how can I create one? |
| 00:54.52 | ricosecada | dvs, stew, thanks! |
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| 00:55.45 | hatter | how does the process work for drivers in new motherboards in etch ? is the netinst updated regularly ? |
| 00:56.15 | azeem | hatter: no |
| 00:56.19 | karsten | abrotman: 29K, gzip compressed, to store 2.4k of text |
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| 00:57.49 | hatter | azeem, so whats the best way to check if a new mobo is support in debian ? |
| 00:57.57 | abrotman | boo! |
| 00:57.59 | karsten | hatter: Boot it. |
| 00:58.10 | karsten | hatter: Try a bootable CD. |
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| 00:58.37 | karsten | hatter: I'd be pretty damned surprised if a given mobo was the problem, more likely it would be some component on it. |
| 00:58.46 | hatter | this one now boots fine but isnt detecting the onboard nic, |
| 00:59.05 | hatter | karsten, yeah. some component, the last mobo had sata driver issue |
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| 01:02.05 | DustyBin | why does portmap use different ports all the time |
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| 01:02.27 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: Thats why they invented portmap :) |
| 01:02.38 | DustyBin | to map ports? |
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| 01:02.50 | DustyBin | NFS uses portmap |
| 01:02.51 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: all program usally creates random ports, so they tried to map them with portmap |
| 01:03.07 | DustyBin | so how can you write a iptables firewall script if it uses different ports all the time |
| 01:03.30 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: Well, are you trying to use it with nfs? |
| 01:03.44 | DustyBin | nfs requires portmap for it to work |
| 01:03.44 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: In that case you can specifiy the listening ports for nfs instead |
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| 01:04.07 | moope2 | !ipmi |
| 01:04.09 | DustyBin | so i could remove portmap and nfs would still work |
| 01:04.27 | moope2 | does ipmi run over tcp or udp? |
| 01:04.28 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: Well, you can specify the ports for both nfs(d) and portmap |
| 01:04.49 | DustyBin | the only thing in the portmap config, /etc/default/portmap |
| 01:04.50 | DustyBin | is this |
| 01:04.56 | DustyBin | #OPTIONS="-i 127.0.0.1" |
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| 01:05.40 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: Yeah, so just configure the nfs services and ignore portmap |
| 01:05.43 | DustyBin | nfs uses rpc what is portmap |
| 01:06.14 | abrotman | DustyBin: apt-cache show portmap |
| 01:06.15 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: You can specify which ports nfs should use, and then you don't need portmap |
| 01:06.26 | DustyBin | ok! |
| 01:06.43 | DustyBin | jolt^d4: do i specify the ports here: /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server |
| 01:07.08 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: I don't remember, and I don't have access to a nfs server from here |
| 01:07.09 | DustyBin | apt-get remove portmap |
| 01:07.15 | DustyBin | The following packages will be REMOVED |
| 01:07.18 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: So I suggest you google it |
| 01:07.22 | DustyBin | nfs-common nfs-kernel-server portmap |
| 01:07.28 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: don't remove portmap |
| 01:07.32 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: Just ignore it |
| 01:07.35 | DustyBin | ok |
| 01:08.09 | DustyBin | there must be a reason why nfs uses portmap |
| 01:08.14 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: http://wiki.debian.org/SecuringNFS |
| 01:08.18 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: yes |
| 01:08.32 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: But what you are trying to do was never intended to be solved by portmap |
| 01:08.42 | DustyBin | aye ok |
| 01:08.51 | DustyBin | nice link :D |
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| 01:09.19 | jolt^d4 | DustyBin: portmap was designed to aid in finding out which port is used for the different nfs services |
| 01:09.35 | DustyBin | ok |
| 01:09.46 | jolt^d4 | So what you are trying to do is outside the scope of what portmap should solve |
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| 01:10.01 | jolt^d4 | Hence I give you the solution of defining the ports yourself |
| 01:10.09 | DustyBin | aye thanks |
| 01:10.20 | DustyBin | STATDOPTS="--port 32765 --outgoing-port 32766" |
| 01:10.48 | icemario | I'll think I'll stick with firefox |
| 01:10.53 | icemario | at least I know how to use it |
| 01:11.04 | PiousMinion | Anyone know why the debian installer partitioner is finding a drive on my scsi array that doesn't exist? lol |
| 01:11.13 | abrotman | icemario: you might like epiphany .. depending on your WM |
| 01:11.32 | abrotman | PiousMinion: a whole drive? |
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| 01:11.56 | PiousMinion | abrotman: yeah |
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| 01:13.34 | PiousMinion | abrotman: I have 4 physical drives. 2 arrays made of 1 and the other 3. It's showing an additional drive the same size as the physical drives at the end of the list. |
| 01:14.07 | abrotman | that doesnt make sense :) |
| 01:14.12 | PiousMinion | lol |
| 01:14.39 | PiousMinion | abrotman: The way I explained it or what I explained? |
| 01:14.50 | abrotman | explained |
| 01:15.04 | moope2 | Is anyone aware of a management system like ipmi that runs exclusivly over tcp/ip |
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| 01:15.24 | PiousMinion | My terminology may be askew. I'll attempt to explain again. |
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| 01:16.13 | hdevalence | I'm writing a letter to my MP. what's a good description of opensource/freesoftware that's persuasive but not technical? |
| 01:16.24 | JordiGH | I think I've asked before, but I've forgotten. Is there a way to have a Windows user easily (easily relative to most of Windows) and securely encrypt some files and send them to me in such a way that I can decrypt them with the software available in Debian? |
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| 01:18.34 | PiousMinion | abortman: I have 2 logical drives made of 4 physical drives. The first logical drive consists of only 1 physical drive. The second logical drive consists of 3 physical drives. The partitioner displays the 2 logical drives correctly, but also displays a 3rd drive which is showing to be the same size as each of the physical drives. Any idea why? |
| 01:19.22 | abrotman | you have another drive in there? |
| 01:19.44 | PiousMinion | abrotman: Other than the 4 mentioned... no. |
| 01:20.12 | icemario | what's faster, vmware server or vmware player? |
| 01:20.34 | PiousMinion | I've also configured all 4 as 1 logical drive and experianced the same extra drive at the end of the list. I'm confused. |
| 01:21.15 | PiousMinion | It doesn't prevent me from using the drives how I want... it's just very odd. |
| 01:21.22 | abrotman | icemario: ask #vmware |
| 01:21.34 | abrotman | PiousMinion: if you remove them all ? |
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| 01:22.14 | PiousMinion | abrotman: you want me to remove all logical drives and see hat happens? |
| 01:22.27 | abrotman | sure |
| 01:22.33 | abrotman | as long as it's not real data |
| 01:22.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:22.36 | abrotman | yet |
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| 01:22.55 | PiousMinion | nah, drive are blank |
| 01:23.44 | abrotman | ok |
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| 01:26.09 | PiousMinion | Stupid server take4s forever and a day to boot. :P |
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| 01:26.24 | icemario | ice...weasel??? |
| 01:26.39 | icemario | mozilla should of let them use firefox name... |
| 01:27.10 | PiousMinion | More than just the name, but that was part of it. |
| 01:27.35 | PiousMinion | mozilla also wanted debian to run all it's updates by them first to, if I'm not mistaken. |
| 01:27.45 | hdevalence | PiousMinion: imo, mozilla had a good point |
| 01:28.01 | hdevalence | not saying they're right |
| 01:28.33 | hdevalence | but they had a good point: if you change it past a certain amount, it's not firefox |
| 01:28.38 | hdevalence | it's different |
| 01:28.59 | peterS | yeah but it's also a double standard. ubuntu apparently has permission to call it firefox even though their package is derived from the debian one |
| 01:29.49 | peterS | well, was derived, maybe they've diverged now, but the point is, moz corp said debian's package was too different yet ubuntu's was not too different, when in reality the two were very similar |
| 01:30.13 | peterS | which makes one think it was a political decision |
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| 01:33.26 | PiousMinion | abrotman: Ok, something is very screwy. No logical drives defined, yet the partitioner shows this.... 1 drive partitioned exactly how I had logical drive 1 partitioned(plus 90mb of free space) and 1 empty drive of the same size. I'm going to physically remove RAID controller and reboot unless you can think of something else I should try first. ? |
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| 01:34.15 | karsten | abrotman: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Download/pages2text |
| 01:34.24 | abrotman | PiousMinion: just tell the raid controller you've broken the array |
| 01:34.34 | Devrethman | Can somebody reccomend me an FTP server, there's like 50 in apt |
| 01:34.38 | abrotman | karsten: oh .. tough guy .. |
| 01:34.44 | abrotman | Devrethman: vsftpd or proftpd |
| 01:34.53 | karsten | abrotman: ? |
| 01:34.55 | PiousMinion | abrotman: broken? I wiped the array config if that is what you mean. |
| 01:34.55 | Devrethman | abrotman: thanks |
| 01:35.04 | streuner_ | !ftp must die |
| 01:35.04 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie |
| 01:35.05 | abrotman | karsten: writing fancy software :) |
| 01:35.12 | abrotman | PiousMinion: yes .. that |
| 01:35.23 | abrotman | PiousMinion: and it still sees it ? |
| 01:35.25 | streuner_ | abrotman: Did you ever read that? |
| 01:35.29 | PiousMinion | abrotman: yes |
| 01:35.29 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:35.33 | abrotman | PiousMinion: nice |
| 01:35.43 | abrotman | PiousMinion: you should try to store something on that "drive" :) |
| 01:35.45 | Ronin | Devrethman: vsftpd but i think pureftpd has had less problems then pro but im not positive |
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| 01:36.55 | PiousMinion | abrotman: before or after physically removing drives? :P |
| 01:37.55 | abrotman | after! |
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| 01:41.45 | [gquit]bombadil | i have dual quad-core xeons and sata raid, what version of debian should i download? |
| 01:42.17 | abrotman | i386 or amd64 |
| 01:42.35 | [gquit]bombadil | amd64 supports emt64? |
| 01:42.39 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:42.43 | abrotman | em64t |
| 01:43.22 | [gquit]bombadil | and if i do install dmraid=true that'll recognize my sata raid? |
| 01:43.42 | abrotman | dunno .. i use hwraid |
| 01:44.02 | [gquit]bombadil | i just found out like 2 hours ago that sata raid is sw raid somehow |
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| 01:44.49 | abrotman | [gquit]bombadil: on a dual quad core? |
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| 01:46.22 | ricosecada | I have set up a test machine and I would like to test kde 4 beta, I thought that it was in experimental, but I get 3.5. Any way to test this on a debian system besides installing from source or running a livecd? |
| 01:46.31 | [gquit]bombadil | yeah |
| 01:46.41 | [gquit]bombadil | abrotman: yeah |
| 01:46.50 | abrotman | seriously?! |
| 01:46.58 | abrotman | ricosecada: ask #debian-kde |
| 01:46.58 | karsten | abrotman: yeah, yeah. |
| 01:47.04 | karsten | abrotman: Half of it's input verificatoin. |
| 01:47.07 | ricosecada | abrotman ,thanks! |
| 01:47.26 | [gquit]bombadil | abrotman: yes, i'm building a virtual host |
| 01:47.29 | karsten | abrotman: The rest just adds newlines for each new tag, deletes all the junk in the file, and strips out the rest of the HTML tags. |
| 01:47.34 | karsten | abrotman: Danke. |
| 01:47.35 | DustyBin | ive changed my ssh port number to a high number, but nmap doesnt seem to pick it up from a scan? |
| 01:47.45 | abrotman | karsten: hehe |
| 01:47.47 | DustyBin | the ssh port is still open, so why cant nmap find it |
| 01:47.49 | stew | help( keys.sort) |
| 01:47.51 | karsten | abrotman: Something old, borrowed, and new next. |
| 01:48.01 | stew | uhh. what are you guys doing in my python shell |
| 01:48.07 | abrotman | stew: we snuck in! |
| 01:48.12 | karsten | DustyBin: nmap by default only scans ports 1-1024 IIRC. |
| 01:48.23 | DustyBin | oh |
| 01:48.26 | karsten | DustyBin: Might also not catch some ports depending on other stuff. |
| 01:48.39 | Ronin | DustyBin: nmap again but specify a range |
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| 01:48.55 | DustyBin | thats better :D |
| 01:48.58 | DustyBin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.21 | DustyBin | jeeze i got a lot of ports open |
| 01:49.32 | karsten | DustyBin: If you know where it's at, you can make the portlist shorter. Faster scan. |
| 01:49.39 | DustyBin | aye ok |
| 01:50.08 | DustyBin | im using |
| 01:50.20 | DustyBin | netstat to find out whats using the ports |
| 01:50.23 | PiousMinion | abrotman: no physical drives = no logical drives. Ideas or should I just ignore it? |
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| 01:50.47 | abrotman | PiousMinion: and if you put them back in .. back at square one? |
| 01:50.48 | DustyBin | thats helpful |
| 01:50.51 | DustyBin | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:43298 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN - |
| 01:50.54 | DustyBin | not... |
| 01:51.03 | stew | DustyBin: run it as root with -p |
| 01:51.09 | PiousMinion | abrotman: booting now to see. |
| 01:51.09 | DustyBin | aye i did |
| 01:51.27 | DustyBin | # netstat -anp | grep 43298 |
| 01:51.34 | DustyBin | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:43298 0.0.0.0:* |
| 01:51.38 | abrotman | PiousMinion: does the controller have other ports to try? |
| 01:51.54 | DustyBin | maybe gambling.bet.net is using that port :P |
| 01:52.12 | PiousMinion | abrotman: by ports do you mean physical scsi connectors? |
| 01:52.46 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:53.28 | PiousMinion | abrotman: it has one other that is external, but I'm not sure if that replaces the internal. Nothing else is connected either way if that is what yoru getting at. |
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| 01:53.42 | Ronin | DustyBin: are you scanning locally or from an external ? |
| 01:53.48 | DustyBin | locally |
| 01:53.59 | Ronin | wouldn't really trust that then |
| 01:54.06 | DustyBin | o_0 |
| 01:54.26 | DustyBin | 43298/tcp open unknown <-- r00ted |
| 01:54.36 | abrotman | no |
| 01:54.38 | Ronin | no |
| 01:54.50 | abrotman | PiousMinion: doubt that'd work .. okay .. carry on! |
| 01:54.59 | liable | are you doing that as root? |
| 01:55.05 | PiousMinion | abrotman: thanks :) |
| 01:55.12 | abrotman | PiousMinion: did it magically work now? |
| 01:55.23 | hdevalence | ok. so is like debian a custom version of ubuntu? |
| 01:55.30 | hdevalence | i used ubuntu and it was cool |
| 01:55.35 | PiousMinion | abrotman: I'll let ya know when it gets there. this thing is slow to boot. hehe |
| 01:55.53 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 01:56.38 | abrotman | PiousMinion: what is it? |
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| 01:57.06 | PiousMinion | abrotman: It shows the same exact drive setup even though the array config is blank. |
| 01:57.20 | PiousMinion | abrotman: It's a dell poweredge 6300.... old. |
| 01:57.48 | DustyBin | i got a feeling portmap has created that port, on debian, this file doesnt exist: /etc/default/quota does anybody know where it is in debian? im following this guide: http://wiki.debian.org/SecuringNFS |
| 01:57.56 | abrotman | PiousMinion: i have a Dual PPro in my office :) |
| 01:58.02 | PiousMinion | hehe |
| 01:58.04 | DustyBin | *etch |
| 01:59.01 | PiousMinion | abrotman: Other than ignoring the issue and using the drives anyway idk what to do. |
| 01:59.16 | hdevalence | anyways, I want to try moving off of kubuntu onto debian. |
| 01:59.22 | abrotman | PiousMinion: shoot the controller? |
| 01:59.34 | bucky | hdevalence, why? |
| 01:59.39 | abrotman | hdevalence: so just try it if you want to |
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| 01:59.50 | hdevalence | it didn't work last time |
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| 01:59.52 | Ronin | hdevalence: ubuntu and kubuntu are off shoots of debian |
| 01:59.53 | PiousMinion | abrotman: I do have another controller come to think of it. I'll try that. thanks for all the input btw |
| 01:59.55 | stew | hdevalence: weren't you in here previously running packages from experimental? |
| 02:00.18 | hdevalence | yeah, the stable didn't work |
| 02:00.31 | Ronin | hdevalence: define didnt work |
| 02:00.32 | hdevalence | it had the same problems as kubuntu feisty |
| 02:00.33 | abrotman | PiousMinion: is it a PERC controller? |
| 02:01.12 | hdevalence | aka: no X, no ethernet, no wireless |
| 02:01.12 | PiousMinion | abrotman: I believe so. |
| 02:01.16 | Ronin | hdevalence: all fixable |
| 02:01.23 | bucky | hdevalence, which laptop? |
| 02:01.39 | hdevalence | Dell Inspiron 1420, canada |
| 02:01.54 | abrotman | isn't that pretty old? |
| 02:02.14 | hdevalence | abrotman: I got it in August |
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| 02:02.21 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:02.41 | DustyBin | i rebooted my server, and now the port has changed to: 54990/tcp open unknown ..surely this has something to do with portmap |
| 02:03.17 | abrotman | duh |
| 02:03.34 | hdevalence | Is there an installable KDE4 debian CD? |
| 02:03.42 | DustyBin | no |
| 02:03.48 | DustyBin | KDE4 is not in unstable yet |
| 02:03.55 | Penix | my shit doesn't work. give me KDE4, that'll help |
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| 02:04.17 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 02:04.27 | DustyBin | only greedy people need the latest versions of applications |
| 02:04.46 | hdevalence | but then again... debian 'stable' is like .... |
| 02:04.56 | hdevalence | Weapons-grade Debian |
| 02:04.56 | DustyBin | stable! |
| 02:04.56 | abrotman | it's better than hartford! |
| 02:05.25 | DustyBin | military nuclear power controlled debian |
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| 02:05.47 | hdevalence | Mr. President, Iran is on its way to acquiring weapons-grade debian. |
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| 02:05.52 | DustyBin | lol |
| 02:06.10 | DustyBin | down with debian down with it kind sir |
| 02:06.17 | CharonX | Is there a program that records all console commands input and their output untill you terminate the program ? |
| 02:06.17 | hdevalence | we've throttled their connection though, so it won't be a problem for a little while |
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| 02:06.35 | hdevalence | typescript? |
| 02:07.07 | abrotman | CharonX: script |
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| 02:07.58 | hdevalence | Penix: as to the 'give me kde4, that'll help', the idea would be that I use my Kde3.5 for normal stuff and a debian install for KDE4 stuff |
| 02:08.12 | lnxiso | fdc to aki |
| 02:08.17 | abrotman | yeah .. that makes no sense |
| 02:08.20 | abrotman | either line |
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| 02:08.41 | lnxiso | guys |
| 02:08.45 | bucky | hdevalence, the graphics should be supported with the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver |
| 02:08.55 | lnxiso | where can i find a tutorial on how to install vserver on debian 2.6.18 ?? |
| 02:09.03 | bucky | i don't know about the wifi |
| 02:09.20 | bucky | hdevalence, http://www.starryhope.com/dell/2007/review-dell-inspiron-1420n-with-ubuntu/ |
| 02:09.26 | abrotman | bucky: i810 in etch |
| 02:09.28 | hdevalence | bucky: if the ethernet works, wifi is not-so-important |
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| 02:09.55 | lnxiso | hey guys |
| 02:09.56 | lnxiso | where can i find a tutorial on how to install vserver on debian 2.6.18 ?? |
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| 02:10.04 | abrotman | ask again .. it's been four seconds |
| 02:10.05 | Penix | lnxiso: google |
| 02:10.13 | bucky | apparently there's a newer version now i810, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, i945 and i965 series chip |
| 02:10.20 | bucky | it's in lenny |
| 02:10.20 | Ronin | heh |
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| 02:10.58 | Ronin | lnxiso: try waiting more then a minute between asking |
| 02:11.16 | hdevalence | bucky: great. |
| 02:12.06 | CharonX | abrotman, thanks that should do nicely |
| 02:12.21 | bucky | hdevalence, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pick the 810 driver |
| 02:12.39 | lnxiso | yeah ive searched all over google =X |
| 02:12.53 | lnxiso | its been 2 days we are trying to install this. im sorry for sending 2 msgs so fast. |
| 02:13.05 | lnxiso | i would appreciate if anyone had any further information on this.. thank u |
| 02:13.23 | hdevalence | bucky: I have a i965 actually |
| 02:13.46 | Ronin | liable: aptitude install does ? |
| 02:14.01 | bucky | hdevalence, scroll up and see what the 810 supports ^^ |
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| 02:15.17 | liable | eh? |
| 02:15.35 | bucky | lnxiso, what do you mean.. vserver? you mean xen? |
| 02:17.40 | hdevalence | bucky: nvm I thought you meant pick i810 as your card.. |
| 02:17.54 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 02:18.08 | lnxiso | bucky, yeah vserver =) |
| 02:18.17 | lnxiso | linux vserver buddy |
| 02:19.05 | lnxiso | bucky, pertending to http://www.linux-vserver.org/ |
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| 02:25.55 | lnxiso | anyone? =) |
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| 02:26.05 | Mad | Hi, im looking for a debian web page that took the output of lspci and gave a list of requiered kernel drivers does any one know of the page I am talking about? I found it a week ago and cant find it again ( history hasnt been saved : ( |
| 02:26.24 | bucky | lnxiso, http://howtoforge.com/linux_vserver_debian_etch |
| 02:26.25 | abrotman | !hcl |
| 02:26.25 | dpkg | from memory, hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel, or http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/, or http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/, or <pciid ... [xxxx:yyyy] ala lspci -nn> |
| 02:26.28 | abrotman | bah |
| 02:26.34 | abrotman | http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 02:26.43 | lnxiso | bucky, thank you so much |
| 02:26.56 | abrotman | Mad: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 02:27.31 | Mad | abrotman: yup thx a ton :) |
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| 02:30.29 | icemario | can someone help me, I'm trying to resize a vmware disk, this is the logfile http://pastebin.ca/815468 |
| 02:31.21 | abrotman | ask #vmware |
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| 02:37.16 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 02:37.16 | dpkg | <deb_noob> how do i open syslog? | <deb_noob> with kwrite? |
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| 02:46.49 | ix | so, what is the easiest way to implement expose-like functions in xorg? |
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| 02:47.50 | axscode | hi, in a device with 1 eth and 4 port switch, how linux recognize this? can someone point me to a document.. thanks. |
| 02:48.21 | abrotman | ix: skippy |
| 02:48.53 | abrotman | !info skippy |
| 02:49.00 | dpkg | skippy: (full-screen X11 task/window switcher, similar to OSX Expose), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.5.1rc1-6 (sid), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 148 kB |
| 02:49.01 | abrotman | ix: ^^ |
| 02:49.18 | n3kl | I have an md array that I cannot boot. I keep getting /dev/sda1 does not have a superblock message |
| 02:49.32 | ix | abrotman: skippy? *searches the web* |
| 02:49.43 | abrotman | ix: i don't make this stuff up! |
| 02:50.00 | n3kl | How can I recover from this. I can boot a live disk, do mdadm --build /dev/md1 blabla and I can mount it, but it will not boot. |
| 02:50.12 | rdz | hi all. does someone know how to convert ps to svg? |
| 02:50.25 | n3kl | mdadm --detail /dev/md1 on a working array, shows superblock is persistent, the fscked array, does not |
| 02:50.26 | rdz | is that possible at all? |
| 02:50.29 | abrotman | http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.php |
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| 02:51.26 | ix | abrotman: no debian packages? anyway, this looks like exactly what I need ;) |
| 02:51.27 | ix | thanks! |
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| 02:51.39 | ix | oh, wait, sid? |
| 02:51.54 | abrotman | ix: yes there are |
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| 02:52.08 | abrotman | ix: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 02:52.59 | import | anyone know how to get microsoft .net to work with wine |
| 02:53.21 | abrotman | ask #winehq |
| 02:53.30 | import | thanks |
| 02:53.30 | ix | abrotman: yup, saw that :) |
| 02:53.31 | ix | thanks |
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| 02:55.58 | n3kl | Any ideas? |
| 02:56.09 | abrotman | !any idea |
| 02:56.09 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of string, a little sauerkraut, and a handful of rabid oxen. And keep the cops off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 02:56.31 | n3kl | ug |
| 02:57.26 | import | abrotman whats that make? |
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| 02:57.33 | abrotman | eggs? |
| 02:57.38 | abrotman | what does what make? |
| 02:57.51 | import | sauerkrat and a hand full of rabid oxen |
| 02:58.00 | abrotman | probably some hairy sausagE? |
| 02:58.13 | n3kl | I am booted into a live cd, I am able to mount my crap md raid array using mdadm --build, but I do not have a persistent superblock, what ever that mean, and I believe this is the reason I am not able to boot the array without a live disk. Any idea how I can recover from this? |
| 02:58.18 | import | lol |
| 02:58.18 | robboplus | is it possible to make apache stop saying stuff like: Apache/2.2.6 (Debian) PHP/5.2.3-1+b1 Server at... ? |
| 02:58.49 | n3kl | robboplus: there is a great book by oreily called apache security. |
| 02:58.59 | abrotman | robboplus: ask #apache .. yes |
| 02:59.04 | robboplus | n3kl very nice |
| 02:59.11 | robboplus | abrotman did before.. they are all dead |
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| 02:59.39 | n3kl | robboplus: try goggling "apache enumeration security" |
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| 03:00.12 | robboplus | thank you very much n3kl - i was just wondering what to put in google to get something :) |
| 03:00.47 | n3kl | robboplus: the string you printed is called a server header |
| 03:01.27 | robboplus | n3kl i assume it will take changing the source to get rid of that |
| 03:01.36 | n3kl | robboplus: no |
| 03:01.41 | robboplus | unless the string format is defined somewhere |
| 03:01.46 | n3kl | robboplus: shouldn't anyway |
| 03:02.56 | n3kl | Doods, I need help booting my array |
| 03:03.31 | robboplus | n3kl found it... |
| 03:03.49 | robboplus | abrotman wee! the moment i found it someone is undead in #apache too :) |
| 03:03.56 | abrotman | sorry |
| 03:04.23 | n3kl | he was refering to his earlier comment |
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| 03:06.04 | axscode | how linux detects a switch port? |
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| 03:07.04 | n3kl | "switch port" ? |
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| 03:19.24 | enveezee | don't everyone talk at once |
| 03:19.48 | heraclitus | hi! still cannot solve the problem... after update of lenny, when i reboot, it says "apm:no bios found" and "fuse exit" and it reboots without post screen, bios screen and lilo menu... i have award bios, seemingly using acpi... does someone know what to do to fix it? |
| 03:20.20 | enveezee | turn off apm? |
| 03:20.28 | heraclitus | how? |
| 03:20.49 | enveezee | read the kernel documentation? apm=off would be a wild guess |
| 03:20.56 | abrotman | shouldn't be using apm ? |
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| 03:22.22 | heraclitus | i see, but can i write apm=off somehow or somewhere in lilo.conf or something? |
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| 03:22.45 | enveezee | thats the idea to write it at boot or in the lilo.conf |
| 03:22.49 | Kristel | hello retards |
| 03:22.59 | Kristel | :) |
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| 03:23.03 | enveezee | Kristel: wow, thats a good way to make friends |
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| 03:23.14 | enveezee | you must be real popular |
| 03:23.21 | Kristel | :D |
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| 03:23.25 | Kristel | indeed i am |
| 03:23.43 | Kristel | even you think im cool |
| 03:23.56 | heraclitus | enveezee, just anywhere in the lilo.conf, in the separate line, apm=off? |
| 03:24.11 | enveezee | no, I don't |
| 03:24.29 | Kristel | :( |
| 03:24.31 | enveezee | on the line that appends to the kernel |
| 03:24.43 | enveezee | I'm not on linux right now and haven't used lilo in a long time |
| 03:24.47 | Kristel | well, that was friendly |
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| 03:27.15 | Kristel | so, what you were saying was that you are useless ? :) |
| 03:27.32 | enveezee | what I was saying is that I am annoyed :P |
| 03:28.01 | enveezee | its too quiet in here |
| 03:28.23 | Kristel | and you are ignoring me ! |
| 03:28.25 | Kristel | :p |
| 03:28.35 | enveezee | no, you're just being stupid |
| 03:29.09 | Kristel | i can change |
| 03:29.19 | Kristel | skills |
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| 03:40.35 | Schalken | is there a way i can make aptitude look through all automatically installed packages to see if they are needed anymore? |
| 03:41.00 | enveezee | last I checked thats what auto-installed means |
| 03:41.05 | enveezee | and it does that automatically |
| 03:41.20 | enveezee | you otherwise use deborphan |
| 03:41.32 | abrotman | that does deps |
| 03:42.04 | Schalken | enveezee: but i have automatically installed packages (ones with A) that aren't depended on anymore, how can i get them removed? |
| 03:42.17 | abrotman | aptitude remove ? |
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| 03:42.57 | Schalken | abrotman: i only know of a few of them, not all of them. |
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| 03:43.57 | \amethyst | Schalken: do you have "Remove unused packages automatically" (aptitude::Delete-Unused) set in the preferences? |
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| 03:45.06 | happy_broccoli | anyone reasonable at nfs? |
| 03:45.31 | Schalken | \amethyst: under options>dependency handling? yes. |
| 03:45.34 | happy_broccoli | /usr/local/ftp 10.38.42.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,insecure,no_subtree_check,sync) |
| 03:45.37 | happy_broccoli | but i mount the drive and i get permission denied when trying to access its contents |
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| 03:52.39 | Schalken | sometimes i wish i could view a dependency tree of my system and mark what useful packages (leaves of the tree) i want installed, and everythin else was marked as automatically installed. |
| 03:52.55 | drlmi | happy_broccoli : probably adjust the permissions for /usr/local/ftp. with chmod should work. |
| 03:53.05 | axscode | hi i have a mini-itx board with 4 port switch on it, then.. when i put a cable on it on the switch i have to dhclient.. then when i transfer it to another port i have to issue dhclient again, anyone knows how to fix this like on-the-fly plug and play |
| 03:53.47 | happy_broccoli | drlmi: on the server? its already drwxr-xr-x |
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| 03:54.21 | Schalken | wait, is there a way i can mark every package as automatically installed? |
| 03:54.23 | \amethyst | happy_broccoli: and you get permission denied when trying to access even the filesystem's root? |
| 03:54.34 | happy_broccoli | \amethyst: thats the 1 exception |
| 03:54.55 | \amethyst | happy_broccoli: what are permissions on something that it won't let you access? |
| 03:54.58 | happy_broccoli | \amethyst: the groups on the mounted drive are all 503,501 seems wierd too mee |
| 03:55.03 | happy_broccoli | \amethyst: im root. |
| 03:55.17 | \amethyst | happy_broccoli: perhaps because those are the uid and gid on the remote system? |
| 03:55.27 | happy_broccoli | sure |
| 03:55.30 | happy_broccoli | makes sense |
| 03:55.50 | abrotman | Schalken: that's not a good idea |
| 03:56.12 | \amethyst | Schalken: every package might be a bit much, but you can use aptitude markauto packagename |
| 03:56.25 | \amethyst | Schalken: or aptitude markauto ~searchpattern |
| 03:56.50 | \amethyst | happy_broccoli: though it's weird, with no_root_squash you should be able to access everything just fine as root |
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| 03:57.41 | drlmi | are you using package nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server? I switched to kernel-server and it seemed to correct some permision issues I was having, not really sure what the difference is though |
| 03:57.48 | \amethyst | happy_broccoli: can you create a file in the mountpoint's root directory from the client; and if so, what does the ownership look like? |
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| 03:58.57 | Schalken | abrotman: soz, while im at it, do you know what Ctrl+Z does in a terminal? |
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| 03:59.10 | fundesktop | how can I enter a "mount --bind bla blah" into fstab? |
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| 03:59.32 | abrotman | suspends the current process |
| 04:00.04 | Schalken | abrotman: is that the same as "stop"? and how do you continue it? |
| 04:00.13 | happy_broccoli | amphi: no denied |
| 04:00.25 | abrotman | Schalken: google "bash process control" |
| 04:00.33 | Schalken | abrotman: okay, will do |
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| 04:00.53 | happy_broccoli | i did (client:umount); (server: exportfs -a) ; (client:mount) am i missing something?? |
| 04:01.34 | \amethyst | fundesktop: /real/dir /bind/mount/point none rw,bind 0 0 |
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| 04:01.48 | fundesktop | ty |
| 04:01.57 | Schalken | abrotman: anyway, my problem is that i have kde including all of its libraries and associeted programs marked as manually installed, and i want to get rid of them. |
| 04:02.11 | abrotman | !remove kde |
| 04:02.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, remove kde is aptitude purge kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a |
| 04:02.43 | Schalken | abrotman: ah, so get rid of the packages that are depended on by every kde program? |
| 04:03.18 | \amethyst | happy_broccoli: if you changed the server setting you might have to unexport it then re-export, I'm not sure |
| 04:04.11 | Sebboh | On lenny.. if I want apache 1.3, not apache2, .. what do I apt-get? |
| 04:04.31 | heraclitus | sorry but... i did it how i read it has to be done... in lilo.conf, after initrd=, added the line append="apm=off", still the same, "apm:no bios found"... |
| 04:04.42 | happy_broccoli | \amethyst: yes. progress |
| 04:06.00 | heraclitus | run lilo and booted two times after that, still all the same, no post, no bios screen, no lilo... |
| 04:06.18 | \amethyst | Sebboh: apache though it's likely to go away before too long |
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| 04:07.11 | Sebboh | .. nevermind. I was confused because the apache package depends on apache2-utils, but, that package says that it includes utilities that are useful for "any webserver".. so I guess that that's why it's included. |
| 04:07.28 | Sebboh | \amethyst: really? ..I thought that apache2 served a different purpose.. |
| 04:08.26 | \amethyst | different purpose? |
| 04:08.32 | \amethyst | they both serve webpages |
| 04:08.37 | Sebboh | What is a good, fast static content webserver? Needs to support SSL and some authorization scheme that can talk to my j2ee application (PAM would work..) |
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| 04:09.38 | SantaClaus | HOHOHO |
| 04:09.53 | Sebboh | \amethyst: my understanding was that apache2 is built around the concept of distributed web serving, like, farms, or something. |
| 04:09.55 | SantaClaus | can u help me? |
| 04:10.09 | n3kl | get your own elf |
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| 04:10.22 | Sebboh | Sorry SantaClaus, we're all Jewish here. |
| 04:10.23 | SantaClaus | (: |
| 04:10.31 | SantaClaus | :þ |
| 04:10.31 | iceyp | hey guys, I'm trying to add a default ipv6 route but cant work it out... isn't route add ::/0 2001:4428:207::1:1 correct? |
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| 04:10.50 | SantaClaus | ho can i get a coloured /etc/issue output¿ |
| 04:11.12 | n3kl | Are kerberos and pam comparable, in terms of authentication mechanisms? I am struggling to understand them |
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| 04:11.49 | n3kl | ie, would I add kerberos to a system along with pam, or would I replace pam with kerberos? |
| 04:12.09 | SantaClaus | lol |
| 04:12.17 | SantaClaus | so: no presents this year for you all |
| 04:12.21 | SantaClaus | ! |
| 04:12.23 | SantaClaus | bye |
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| 04:14.30 | agslinux | anyone familiar with BIND nsupdate |
| 04:15.11 | \amethyst | n3kl: you would configure pam to use kerberos |
| 04:15.29 | n3kl | agslinux: try bind |
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| 04:15.34 | n3kl | er #bind |
| 04:15.36 | \amethyst | n3kl: with the libpam-krb5 package |
| 04:15.57 | n3kl | \amethyst: is that the same, in terms of concepts, for ldap? |
| 04:16.14 | \amethyst | n3kl: yes, except with LDAP you probably also want libnss-ldap, too |
| 04:17.01 | n3kl | \amethyst: so that would imply that pam is not an authentication method in itself, but merely a conduit of sorts? So what authentication system does debian use by defatul? |
| 04:17.09 | n3kl | detault too |
| 04:17.23 | \amethyst | n3kl: Debian uses PAM |
| 04:17.36 | iceyp | how do i add an ipv6 route? my debian install doesnt have /sbin/ip only route |
| 04:17.49 | n3kl | iceyp: so install iproute2 |
| 04:17.49 | \amethyst | n3kl: the default PAM config uses /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd (the pam_unix module) |
| 04:18.00 | agslinux | n3kl, yeah im using bind |
| 04:18.07 | agslinux | but im getting some errors |
| 04:18.29 | iceyp | mmm thanks :) |
| 04:18.39 | Sebboh | agslinux: I think that n3kl meant that there is another chatroom (channel) called #bind and you might find some BIND experts in there. |
| 04:18.54 | n3kl | \amethyst: so when using kerberos, for example, you would turn off using shadow, and turn on kerberos? And this would be done in the pam configuration? |
| 04:19.07 | \amethyst | n3kl: or you could have it do both, trying in either order |
| 04:19.23 | n3kl | \amethyst: I see |
| 04:19.28 | n3kl | neat |
| 04:19.51 | n3kl | \amethyst: thanks. I have been wondering about that for a while |
| 04:20.11 | Sebboh | What does kerberos do exactly? |
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| 04:20.39 | n3kl | pass tickets to verify the server and the client through a trusted third party machine, I think |
| 04:20.58 | n3kl | its pretty friggin complex |
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| 04:21.21 | \amethyst | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Needham-Schroeder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerberos_%28protocol%29 |
| 04:21.33 | Sebboh | :) Thanks \amethyst. |
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| 04:22.46 | PumpkinPie | How do I only pack files into one file? but as fast as possible ? |
| 04:22.59 | PumpkinPie | perhaps it doesn't even have to copy the files |
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| 04:23.43 | \amethyst | sorry, you have to copy the files in order to combine them into one file.... no FS that I know of supports atomically joining files |
| 04:23.56 | \amethyst | is tar not fast enough? |
| 04:25.56 | PumpkinPie | not fast enough |
| 04:26.29 | Tramp | PumpkinPie: cat *>bigfile - the reverse process may be hard though. |
| 04:27.00 | PumpkinPie | how can I include a password in my scp syntax ? |
| 04:27.13 | darkizard | i put a new drive in |
| 04:27.34 | darkizard | i get this kenrel panic not sync |
| 04:27.35 | \amethyst | PumpkinPie: you don't include a password... you use keys |
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| 04:29.34 | PumpkinPie | I want to include a password |
| 04:29.37 | PumpkinPie | I dont want to use keys |
| 04:30.18 | Rusty1 | PumpkinPie: rsync ? |
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| 04:33.37 | dbmoodb | hi there i'm trying to use cups or lpr to work with my usb printer in raw mode ... not having that much luck |
| 04:33.51 | queuetue | Hi. When I remove an executable on the path, and replace it with another executable with the same name in a different path (usually due to an uninstall and install from source), the path is sticky and I get the error "No such file or directory." 'which {command}' works fine, and finds it in the new location ... what updates this path cache? |
| 04:34.05 | dbmoodb | any hints - it is a scx-4200 and i need raw or something because this is for an arm and i can't get the driver for this atm |
| 04:36.27 | Tramp | queuetue: help hash - probably |
| 04:36.29 | Decepticon | i got a question, when i do 'sudo updatedb', does it update for everyone, so they can locate any file no matter what the permissions of any dir?? |
| 04:36.41 | dbmoodb | sudo ? |
| 04:37.04 | dbmoodb | ah why would it dec ?--- could tho |
| 04:37.12 | Decepticon | suppose theres a file /home/decepticon/secret.... i 'sudo updatedb', will user "snoopingeyes" be able to do "locate secret" and find it?? |
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| 04:37.28 | Decepticon | assuming /home/decepticon/secret is chmod 600 |
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| 04:37.35 | dbmoodb | i hope not |
| 04:37.39 | dbmoodb | - assume no but test it |
| 04:37.47 | Decepticon | i dont have a spare user to test with |
| 04:37.52 | dbmoodb | adduser.... |
| 04:37.53 | queuetue | Tramp, That looks like it. Thanks. |
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| 04:38.08 | Tramp | hmm. with locate it probably will -not sure though. Use slocate or mlocate |
| 04:38.58 | heraclitus | acpi=force doesn't work either, what in hell should i do? and this is only the result of a regular lenny update... |
| 04:40.09 | jervine | I'm looking to run debian as a Xen DomU on non-PAE 32 bit hardware. it seems I'll have to compile the kernel myself for this. the current kernel (from testing) is 2.6.22, however there appears to be no Xen patches for this release. I can install the 2.6.18 xen image but it's compiled for PAE. is it possible to install the kernel source for 2.6.18 (and the applicable Xen patch) so I can compile my own 2.6.18 non-PAE kernel? |
| 04:40.33 | Jyzygzel- | i once made a complete backup of my disk to another disk with dd. can i somehow update the backup? |
| 04:41.37 | heraclitus | can apm=on work? or acpi=off, or whatever? |
| 04:42.07 | Jyzygzel- | whats the command to just update copy files |
| 04:42.20 | Jyzygzel- | so if it spots the same file it does not do anything about that |
| 04:42.41 | pobega | Jyzygzel-: I believe it's in `man cp` |
| 04:42.56 | Decepticon | i cant seem to figure out why i only have 2mb of ram left out of 128mb, Mem: 125016k total, 122452k used, 2564k free, 6736k buffers |
| 04:43.10 | Jyzygzel- | pobega can i use rsync? |
| 04:43.12 | Tramp | Jyzygzel-: You may want to use rsync for that. |
| 04:43.14 | \amethyst | Decepticon: look at the next line |
| 04:43.17 | Jyzygzel- | woohoo |
| 04:43.24 | Decepticon | im looking in top, theres a bunch of processes but most of them are < 2% of mem each |
| 04:43.29 | Jyzygzel- | then i also need NTFS-3G |
| 04:43.32 | Jyzygzel- | whats the state? |
| 04:43.35 | Decepticon | \amethyst Swap: 361420k total, 23176k used, 338244k free, 83476k cached |
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| 04:43.45 | Jyzygzel- | i heard that its safe |
| 04:43.53 | \amethyst | Decepticon: so you really have 2564 + 6736 + 83476k = about 90 MB free |
| 04:44.08 | \amethyst | Decepticon: buffers and cache are both "free" |
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| 04:44.22 | Decepticon | so i have 90mb out of 128mb free |
| 04:44.23 | \amethyst | Decepticon: in that they will be evicted as soon as something else needs the memory |
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| 04:44.29 | Tramp | !tell Decepticon about free ram |
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| 04:44.44 | \amethyst | Decepticon: yup |
| 04:44.56 | \amethyst | Decepticon: plus about 23MB of swap |
| 04:45.11 | Decepticon | hm i'd very much like top to tell me that |
| 04:45.49 | \amethyst | Decepticon: I don't know if top can be reconfigured, but you can look at the second line of "free" |
| 04:45.52 | heraclitus | i guess that, no one knows... |
| 04:46.00 | Decepticon | i see |
| 04:46.22 | Decepticon | so what exactly does top mean when it says 2564k free |
| 04:46.32 | Decepticon | the same goes for cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemFree |
| 04:46.53 | \amethyst | Decepticon: that's the amount of really, truly free not-used-for-anything memory |
| 04:46.58 | \amethyst | i.e. how much memory you're wasting |
| 04:47.37 | Decepticon | debian is reserving up the memory? and releasing it when needed ? |
| 04:47.49 | Decepticon | its still there, just hogged up somewhere? |
| 04:47.49 | \amethyst | It's not reserved, it's being used for disk cache |
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| 04:47.51 | heraclitus | why lenny update forced this stupid apm at all, when my bios uses acpi? |
| 04:48.13 | \amethyst | Decepticon: it's being used so that, for example, it doesn't have to read the "top" executable from disk every time you run top |
| 04:48.43 | Decepticon | i see |
| 04:48.47 | \amethyst | Decepticon: it's the kernel that does that, nothing debian-specific |
| 04:48.54 | \amethyst | it's the same in every Linux distribution |
| 04:48.55 | Decepticon | interesting |
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| 04:51.09 | \amethyst | Decepticon: if any operating system didn't do that, you'd see how much the gap between disk speed and CPU speed has grown in the last 15 years :) |
| 04:52.01 | Decepticon | yeah ive always wondered when are we going to go past 7200k rpm mainstream |
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| 04:52.18 | Decepticon | moore's law for hdds? maybe not |
| 04:52.35 | CompWizrd | density is going up instead though, and cost is definitely coming down fast |
| 04:55.57 | robboplus | the thing that really goes up is flash media :) |
| 04:56.29 | robboplus | compare those 64MB pendrives to novadays 32GB ones :) just 3-4 years, isn't it? |
| 04:57.08 | robboplus | what's cooking? :) pendrives to break 100GB barrier of course :) |
| 04:57.27 | robboplus | i would seriously wonder about the future of hard drives then.. |
| 04:58.34 | Nyle | 7200k rpm? |
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| 04:58.56 | robboplus | most people just want to store some digital shit and nothing else |
| 04:59.04 | Nyle | 7,200,000 rpm? no way |
| 04:59.09 | Decepticon | er |
| 04:59.12 | Decepticon | 7200rpm |
| 04:59.13 | Decepticon | haha |
| 04:59.15 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:59.28 | CompWizrd | the gyroscopic effects would be interesting. |
| 04:59.39 | robboplus | remember that optical media is making a quantum leap too |
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| 04:59.51 | CompWizrd | for bonus points, calculate how many times the speed of sound the outer edge would be moving at, at 7200000 rpm |
| 04:59.54 | robboplus | we are soon to see 200GB recordable media :) |
| 04:59.54 | dbmoodb | gah |
| 04:59.58 | dbmoodb | can i get help tho ? |
| 05:00.02 | LoneTech | I'd prefer affordable solid state drives |
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| 05:00.16 | robboplus | dbmoodb err no, we are closed yet. |
| 05:00.42 | robboplus | CompWizrd that would be lots of porn, wouldn't it :) |
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| 05:01.01 | dbmoodb | lol |
| 05:01.07 | CompWizrd | i get about 15,000 mph, give or take. |
| 05:01.14 | Decepticon | what was the command to change what loads up in rc*.d on startup again? |
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| 05:01.26 | CompWizrd | i did it wrong though, hmm |
| 05:01.31 | enouf | mach20ish |
| 05:01.38 | robboplus | CompWizrd then hard drives could fly |
| 05:01.48 | Tramp | Decepticon: update-rc.d? |
| 05:01.55 | CompWizrd | 1200 mph or so.. i forgot to convert inches to feet |
| 05:01.57 | Decepticon | yes that must be it |
| 05:02.17 | CompWizrd | dammit, that's rpm, too |
| 05:02.35 | CompWizrd | 1200 mpm! :) |
| 05:02.44 | dbmoodb | .... |
| 05:02.46 | CompWizrd | so it's 72000 mph at 7.2krpm.. that sounds more reasonable |
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| 05:03.00 | robboplus | dbmoodb lol |
| 05:03.15 | robboplus | dbmoodb want beer? |
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| 05:03.58 | robboplus | dbmoodb just relax and watch debianized people after work lol |
| 05:04.33 | CompWizrd | eh, a 3.5" hard drive actually has 3.74 inch platters.. how odd. |
| 05:04.35 | robboplus | ok my ip aliasing still sucks ass... |
| 05:05.13 | enouf | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/nerd_sniping.png comes to mind ;-) |
| 05:05.37 | robboplus | rofl |
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| 05:06.03 | CompWizrd | i think the nerd sniping would be if i was calculating centriputal force |
| 05:06.10 | icemario_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.31 | robboplus | icemario_ that's vmware, isn't it.. |
| 05:06.40 | dbmoodb | help ? |
| 05:07.00 | icemario_ | VMware server |
| 05:07.00 | robboplus | dbmoodb wasssaaaa |
| 05:07.11 | dbmoodb | - printing |
| 05:07.19 | robboplus | dbmoodb how about you ask the question before someone can help |
| 05:07.30 | dbmoodb | i'm trying to use a scx-4200 on a arm arch so i can't use their utility |
| 05:07.48 | enouf | it's not the actual diffuculty of the problem that quantifies it, it's the thought process ;-) |
| 05:07.51 | dbmoodb | i'm trying to share it in raw mode - if i cat to /dev/usb/lp0 it moves (or /dev/usblp0 /1) |
| 05:08.04 | dbmoodb | got cups trying to print and no luck atm |
| 05:08.09 | robboplus | dbmoodb my head is spinning |
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| 05:09.14 | dbmoodb | i'm trying to share a pritner |
| 05:09.31 | dbmoodb | the samsung install script will not work - wrong arch so i'm trying to share it in raw mode |
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| 05:11.48 | icemario_ | locate kismet.conf |
| 05:11.48 | icemario_ | locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or directory |
| 05:11.58 | dbmoodb | .....? |
| 05:12.01 | dbmoodb | so run updatedb |
| 05:12.15 | icemario_ | what is updatedb? |
| 05:12.27 | dbmoodb | updates the database |
| 05:12.42 | icemario_ | how long does that take to run? |
| 05:12.47 | dbmoodb | depends |
| 05:12.50 | dbmoodb | try it now |
| 05:12.55 | enouf | or dpkg -L <pkgname> |
| 05:13.19 | icemario_ | I'm getting lots of permission denied |
| 05:13.20 | dbmoodb | !esp |
| 05:13.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, esp is I don't have extra-sensory perception (mind-reading powers). If you're asked a question or to run a command and provide output, it's because information is needed to help _you_ solve your problem. If you don't cooperate, or don't clearly state your problem, we can't help, and will move on to someone else. Understand? |
| 05:13.26 | dbmoodb | drat |
| 05:13.37 | \amethyst | icemario_: updatedb is supposed to be run as root |
| 05:13.39 | enouf | dlocate is awesome as well, but requires an updatedb too |
| 05:15.02 | fundesktop | trivial question: I want to connect two PCs with a network cable; only one of the PCs is connected to the internet (over a router)... how to configure it? |
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| 05:16.10 | LoneTech | fundesktop: nontrivial answer: ipmasq+dnsmasq. |
| 05:16.48 | LoneTech | though perhaps bridging is neater, considering that router |
| 05:16.57 | \amethyst | there are a few ways to do it |
| 05:16.59 | \amethyst | doh |
| 05:17.02 | \amethyst | wrong channel |
| 05:17.05 | fundesktop | LoneTech: wow... so it's not trivial? ... also, the PC which is not connected to the internet doesn't need to be able to reach it through the other PC... |
| 05:17.20 | LoneTech | oh, that makes it simpler. |
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| 05:17.31 | enouf | heh [00:12:08] <icemario_> updatedb worked |
| 05:17.32 | fundesktop | also, "the other" PC can't reach the router (wlan lol) |
| 05:17.40 | LoneTech | just configure both of them with static addresses in some private range different from what the router uses. |
| 05:17.56 | Kevin` | fundesktop if you don't need to reach the internet on the "other" computer, or know what your doing setting it up, it's trivial |
| 05:17.57 | LoneTech | or don't, and just let zeroconf do its thing |
| 05:19.35 | enouf | avahi-daemon nowadays, iinm, (and ugh to that stuff) |
| 05:20.11 | LoneTech | ah, avahi-autoipd. |
| 05:20.21 | Kevin` | fundesktop if you WANT internet access on the other pc, it's a fairly common thing to do these days (router), and is documented in various quality everywhere |
| 05:20.53 | enouf | and as mentioned, ipmasq+dnsmasq is easy and trivial ;-) |
| 05:21.06 | fundesktop | ok... trying some apt-get installs |
| 05:21.39 | LoneTech | not trivial. you still have to choose an ip range and set up /etc/network/interfaces right. |
| 05:21.52 | enouf | heh; $ man avahi |
| 05:21.52 | enouf | avahi-daemon avahi-daemon.conf avahi.hosts avahi.service |
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| 05:25.17 | antixogh | how can I diagnos an unrecoverable crash? |
| 05:25.36 | enouf | !sysrq |
| 05:25.36 | dpkg | it has been said that sysrq is Alt-PrintScreen-<Key>. For a clean reboot with a semi-locked machine, try <Key> with s-u-b, s for sync, u for remount readonly and b or reBoot. |
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| 05:27.27 | antixogh | semi locked does not apply, it fully locks |
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| 05:28.56 | wols_ | you can try logging on a separate system via syslog or serial console |
| 05:29.45 | antixogh | so like exporting my syslog to another machine? |
| 05:31.22 | dbmoodb | ah hi how do i set root permissions back onto a folder .... |
| 05:31.31 | dbmoodb | - noob i know iknow rfm |
| 05:32.18 | icemario_ | Is it possible to use kismet with VMware? (linux guest OS)? |
| 05:33.05 | antixogh | chmod should work or if your are using a gui right clcik and use the permission tab(gnome) |
| 05:33.18 | dbmoodb | no gui |
| 05:33.21 | dbmoodb | chmod - what no tho ? |
| 05:33.26 | dbmoodb | need to set it for /var |
| 05:33.38 | dbmoodb | - linkstation running freelink (etch modified for it) |
| 05:33.55 | enouf | heh, some of the URLs in External Links section might help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_console |
| 05:34.15 | dbmoodb | chown -R root:root * ? |
| 05:34.21 | dbmoodb | looks ok |
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| 05:34.39 | antixogh | chown changes ownership |
| 05:34.49 | dbmoodb | yeah i need to do that |
| 05:34.58 | dbmoodb | drwxrwxrwx 16 nobody nogroup 1024 2007-12-13 07:16 var |
| 05:34.58 | dbmoodb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:36.41 | antixogh | chown -ARE root:root should work |
| 05:36.48 | antixogh | -A-E |
| 05:36.58 | antixogh | darn spell check |
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| 05:37.11 | antixogh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chown |
| 05:37.35 | dbmoodb | yeah but to make the correct other things tho ? |
| 05:37.49 | dbmoodb | i know about chown i don't knwo the numbering for chmod |
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| 05:39.42 | antixogh | I don't know what you mean when you say numbering |
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| 05:40.25 | dbmoodb | ah i want to set the perms of /var /etc and /bin to what they are by default cough (no user writing in anywhere but /home normally) |
| 05:41.41 | streuner__ | !unix lessons |
| 05:41.41 | dpkg | unix lessons is, like, (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 05:41.51 | dbmoodb | oh ssh |
| 05:42.02 | dbmoodb | i know that |
| 05:42.19 | dbmoodb | !default permissions |
| 05:42.22 | dbmoodb | nope |
| 05:42.36 | antixogh | you was chown to change ownership. you use chmod to change permissions |
| 05:42.40 | enouf | streuner__: add 12) always keep a working kernel handy ;-) |
| 05:42.44 | antixogh | -was +use |
| 05:43.09 | dbmoodb | i know that |
| 05:43.21 | dbmoodb | but i don't know how to work the octals of chmod |
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| 05:44.18 | antixogh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions#Octal_notation |
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| 05:44.38 | enouf | !permissions |
| 05:44.38 | dpkg | For more information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions' and http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions or http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html - for even further info see these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod, or follow the setuid and setgid links found in the wikipedia pages, or http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
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| 05:44.44 | null | Question: An old Compaq (with no relevant *NIX options in the BIOS) Error 25's on me after a fresh Debian install, anything I could add/change to my grub? http://pastebin.com/m7c5b72dd |
| 05:46.02 | enouf | null: see #ubuntu |
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| 05:46.42 | dbmoodb | well fine ok lets see what can i do to get cups giving me the ability to select postscript ? |
| 05:47.58 | antixogh | I don't know I don't have a printer |
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| 05:49.49 | dbmoodb | lol |
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| 05:50.14 | ruth | In which logfile file deletion entry will be stored? |
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| 05:52.30 | tralala | tdn, I think you cannot. On lirc.org there should be a transmitter scheme as well. |
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| 05:52.45 | LoneTech | several iirc |
| 05:53.17 | ruth | How to know whether a file has deleted or not ? |
| 05:53.32 | antixogh | ruth did you completely delete the file? |
| 05:53.40 | ruth | yes |
| 05:54.09 | ruth | antixogh: where that entry will be stored? |
| 05:54.10 | antixogh | i.e. emptied the trash bin? (gui) |
| 05:54.27 | ruth | antixogh:yes |
| 05:54.47 | antixogh | i'm not sure, I needed to know in order to figure out |
| 05:54.55 | antixogh | one sec |
| 05:55.21 | ruth | antixogh: I just want to know details of file deletion |
| 05:55.29 | LoneTech | just how is it unclear? if it's gone, it's gone.. |
| 05:55.44 | ruth | antixogh: is it possible |
| 05:55.58 | PiousMinion | Can someone recommend a gkrellm type app for the console? |
| 05:56.20 | antixogh | ruth:i'm checking |
| 05:56.32 | ruth | antixogh : ok |
| 05:56.40 | simonrvn | ruth: like LoneTech said, if it's gone, it's gone. |
| 05:56.54 | simonrvn | have backups? then no ;) |
| 05:57.26 | ruth | simonrvn : I dont want file i just want the details of file deletion |
| 05:57.45 | ruth | simonrvn : at what time like that |
| 05:58.00 | simonrvn | um, when it happened |
| 05:58.23 | simonrvn | you want data on something that doesn't (technically) exist anymore? |
| 05:58.41 | ruth | simonrvn : i dont know , that thing i am asking |
| 05:58.43 | simonrvn | 0 * 0 is still 0 |
| 05:59.11 | Tramp | ruth: .bash_history, maybe. |
| 05:59.13 | LoneTech | if the inode hasn't been reused, in ext2 you can actually find deletion time. finding the inode is another matter. |
| 05:59.23 | jervine | rm <file> ... ls <file> returns... not found surely? |
| 05:59.25 | lhadji | how do data recovery programs work in linux? do they even work? |
| 05:59.30 | ruth | Tramp : what is this? |
| 05:59.48 | Tramp | LoneTech: the inode stores deletion time?? |
| 05:59.49 | antixogh | if there is a log I would delete a file and the do a filesystem search (text contains) file name of deleted file |
| 05:59.55 | enouf | ruth usually (on ext3 FS), the inode for said file is removed and the dir inode is updated and those sectors it occupied are marked as free now |
| 05:59.58 | LoneTech | yep, it's a field in there |
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| 06:00.14 | LoneTech | most commonly noticed when fsck explains that it fixed the timestamp on a deleted file ;) |
| 06:00.14 | dbmoodb | ah did she try |
| 06:00.20 | dbmoodb | and look into .bash_history ? |
| 06:00.57 | ruth | dbmoodb: how to use bash_history? |
| 06:01.19 | antixogh | note that searching that way would take forever |
| 06:01.33 | dbmoodb | ? |
| 06:01.38 | LoneTech | that's a text file. it does not have timestamps for the commands, and would only record some commands entered in bash. |
| 06:01.43 | dbmoodb | cat ~./bash_history|grep rm |
| 06:01.45 | antixogh | ruth:open .bash_history in a text editor |
| 06:01.49 | Tramp | LoneTech: __u32 i_dtime --- Kudos. I didn't know that. |
| 06:01.53 | simonrvn | !uuoc |
| 06:01.53 | dpkg | UUOC is the Useless Use of Cat Award. Given out for years by Randal Schwartz on the newsgroup comp.unix.shell. Basically, most constructions that look like "cat filename | grep pattern" can be more easily written as "grep pattern filename". Works for grep and most other Unix utilities. Easier to type and marginally more efficient. |
| 06:01.54 | antixogh | that woorks too |
| 06:02.08 | dbmoodb | ? |
| 06:02.20 | LoneTech | and if that doesn't work, < will |
| 06:02.22 | dbmoodb | oh |
| 06:02.27 | dbmoodb | sure |
| 06:02.38 | enouf | deja vu man (on this file deletion thing) |
| 06:02.46 | simonrvn | LoneTech: zsh's history file does have timestamps |
| 06:03.00 | LoneTech | ok |
| 06:03.13 | LoneTech | maybe someday I'll take the time to set up a zsh configuration I can stand. |
| 06:03.46 | ruth | dbmoodb: i am gettting no such file or directory when i used bash_history |
| 06:04.01 | antixogh | it would be in you home directory |
| 06:04.29 | antixogh | not to mention it is not going to do you any good |
| 06:04.31 | simonrvn | autoload -A compinstall; autoload -A compinit; then run compinstall (i think; been a while since i did that) |
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| 06:04.44 | manu_hack | hi, i was just trying to install debian on a laptop, right now I'm on the shell of the installation CD, if dmesg and lspci both couldn't show my wireless card, does that mean I need to find driver somewhere else? |
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| 06:05.28 | manu_hack | hi, i was just trying to install debian on a laptop, right now I'm on the shell of the installation CD, if dmesg and lspci both couldn't show my wireless card, does that mean I need to find driver somewhere else? |
| 06:05.31 | Tramp | ruth: its ~/.bash_history |
| 06:05.56 | ruth | Tramp : i didnt see that file in home |
| 06:06.00 | Tramp | not ~./bash_history |
| 06:06.01 | LoneTech | manu_hack: depends entirely on its type. 16-bit pc cards wouldn't show up in lspci, and only maybe in dmesg once card services finds them. |
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| 06:06.28 | antixogh | ruth: are you using the command line? |
| 06:06.31 | LoneTech | ruth: you won't see files beginning with period unless you use ls -A or similar |
| 06:07.00 | Tramp | ruth: well, if you don't have the file .bash_history (notice the "." in front of the filename) you're out of luck, I'm afraid. |
| 06:07.07 | enouf | manu_hack: you might need update-pciids, see if lshw/hwinfo finds it |
| 06:08.02 | ruth | Lonetech : ls -A bash_history ? |
| 06:08.14 | simonrvn | .bash_history |
| 06:08.27 | simonrvn | that . is needed, it's part of the filename |
| 06:08.37 | Tramp | he doesn't listen anyways |
| 06:08.40 | LoneTech | considering the gui talk earlier I doubt .bash_history was at all relevant to the question |
| 06:08.44 | manu_hack | enouf, LoneTech: so it can only be done after I install debian? |
| 06:08.56 | simonrvn | Tramp: *shrug* |
| 06:09.07 | LoneTech | manu_hack: maybe. I've never tried to use wireless from the installer. |
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| 06:09.19 | dbmoodb | gah what is the package for cups postscript ability ? |
| 06:09.26 | enouf | manu_hack: i only know about finding hardware, not setting up wireless ;-) |
| 06:09.29 | ruth | Lonetech : How to use bash_history? |
| 06:09.37 | antixogh | ruth:.bash_history isn't going to help you |
| 06:09.39 | enouf | manu_hack: is it a PCMCIA? or expresscard? |
| 06:09.47 | manu_hack | LoneTech: the reason I was asking is that I did use a wireless card to install debian |
| 06:09.53 | ruth | Lonetech : i have seen users bash_history? |
| 06:10.03 | ruth | Lonetech :How to see root bash_history? |
| 06:10.07 | manu_hack | enouf: it's on board I believe |
| 06:10.22 | manu_hack | it said Realtek 802.11b/g wireless-LAN linux |
| 06:10.32 | LoneTech | ruth: it's usually easier to just type "history". It'll list the same data. |
| 06:10.36 | manu_hack | not without linux of course |
| 06:10.50 | LoneTech | ow, realtek.. |
| 06:10.56 | antixogh | ruth: I already tried it would only help you if you had used the rm command. which you didn't |
| 06:10.59 | enouf | ruth: history | less (or '| more' if less isn't installed) |
| 06:11.09 | manu_hack | not a good sign? LoneTech ? |
| 06:11.10 | LoneTech | no clue how to get that working. I gave one away because I found no driver. |
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| 06:11.23 | antixogh | ruth: not to mention it wouldn't tell you the time even if you had used the rm command |
| 06:11.59 | manu_hack | LoneTech: then that's not good |
| 06:12.11 | manu_hack | when was the last time you try? |
| 06:12.28 | LoneTech | a year ago, maybe. I never really needed that card. |
| 06:12.42 | manu_hack | LoneTech: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Belkin, is this site useful? |
| 06:13.11 | ruth | Lonetech : in root mode where is that bash_history ? |
| 06:13.22 | antixogh | haha |
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| 06:13.34 | icemario | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.38 | Penix | !cluebat ruth |
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| 06:13.54 | garou | Hi. |
| 06:13.59 | LoneTech | manu_hack: probably. it mentions a driver for realtek 8000 chips I did not know of. |
| 06:14.16 | simonrvn | ruth: you're going to have to forget about that file, unless you made backups from which you can retrieve a copy. you didn't delete it with the shell, it's *not* going to be in your ~/.bash_history. |
| 06:14.19 | Penix | icemario: err...what? |
| 06:14.20 | manu_hack | LoneTech: thx for checking it for me |
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| 06:14.57 | LoneTech | simon: I'm not sure he's trying to do an undelete. |
| 06:15.20 | simonrvn | LoneTech: wasn't exactly clear, was it? =) |
| 06:15.26 | LoneTech | nope, not at all |
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| 06:16.20 | antixogh | ruth: are you using gnome? |
| 06:16.35 | ruth | antixogh : yes |
| 06:17.11 | antixogh | ruth: gedit /root/.bash_history |
| 06:17.21 | ruth | simonrvn : How can I get information on file deletion? |
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| 06:18.03 | LoneTech | ruth: a book on the unix operating system might help. |
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| 06:18.30 | LoneTech | essentially files are deleted when no longer used, and "rm" or similar delete commands remove them from directories. |
| 06:19.08 | antixogh | ruth: or "gedit /home/user_name/.bash_history" where your user_name is the name you use to login |
| 06:19.13 | LoneTech | so for instance if you're downloading a file, and rm it while it's downloading, the space won't be reclaimed until the download is stopped too. |
| 06:21.59 | ruth | antixogh : If i deleted the file manually then where it will store that entry? |
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| 06:22.19 | LoneTech | agh. what entry? deleted means *gone*. |
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| 06:22.51 | LoneTech | there's no infinite log to store every event that ever happened on your system |
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| 06:26.19 | antixogh | ruth: if you had used the rm command to delete a file it would show up in your hash_history, however the time of deletion would not be noted. it's seems that noe one here know where "the " log file is, if there even is one. so you can use google to try and find a file that has information about deletions, or you can |
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| 06:26.43 | LoneTech | ..cut the sentence at the buffer size. |
| 06:27.09 | antixogh | ruth:or you can do a text base search of your file system |
| 06:27.47 | antixogh | lonetech:i'm not sure of the buffer size, but I didn't want to go over it and get kicked |
| 06:27.58 | LoneTech | ok |
| 06:28.11 | LoneTech | I've seen it happen quite a few times |
| 06:28.19 | ruth | antixogh : ok |
| 06:28.32 | antixogh | ruth: I hope that helps |
| 06:30.46 | antixogh | ruth: I deleted a file, and I am now doing a test based search for the file name of the file I deleted. if I find anything i'll let you know.. if you are still here |
| 06:30.57 | antixogh | -test +text |
| 06:31.06 | ruth | antixogh : ok |
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| 06:31.24 | antixogh | text* |
| 06:31.40 | notfundesktop | where's the global default locale stored? |
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| 06:33.26 | LoneTech | notfundesktop: maybe you mean /etc/default/locale ? |
| 06:33.30 | netgear | what is a good dvd backup software for debian? |
| 06:33.42 | notfundesktop | LoneTech: yes but it seems to be spread at other places too |
| 06:33.56 | LoneTech | netgear: probably depends on what you mean by dvd backup. I tend to think dvdbackup does that. |
| 06:34.04 | ruth | antixogh : what is text* |
| 06:34.05 | notfundesktop | LoneTech: i.e. /etc/locale.gen, /etc/gdm/locale.conf |
| 06:34.35 | LoneTech | gen decides which should be available, and I don't know of that gdm one. |
| 06:34.40 | netgear | LoneTech, i mean like backup a copy of dvd's i had bought, might need some decrypting |
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| 06:35.02 | LoneTech | netgear: install libdvdcss and use dvdbackup. |
| 06:35.05 | XoX | any idea why i can't use grep -P |
| 06:35.06 | XoX | grep: The -P option is not supported |
| 06:35.28 | antixogh | text* notes that typo-ed |
| 06:35.38 | netgear | LoneTech, you personally use them? |
| 06:35.39 | LoneTech | xox: mine says "grep: Support for the -P option is not compiled into this --disable-perl-regexp binary" |
| 06:35.48 | LoneTech | sometimes. |
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| 06:36.11 | netgear | any dvdshrink alike program? |
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| 06:36.30 | LoneTech | netgear: vamps |
| 06:36.35 | netgear | thanks |
| 06:36.41 | LoneTech | don't know much about that, though. |
| 06:37.10 | netgear | well as soon as one asks people think you run a dvd backup factory from home and dont want to help :) |
| 06:37.26 | netgear | your one of few to reply |
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| 06:37.35 | dbmoodb | netgear |
| 06:37.55 | dbmoodb | - coug hcough pirate ? |
| 06:38.24 | netgear | dbmoodb, nah i use to but anymore |
| 06:38.30 | dbmoodb | ? |
| 06:38.31 | dbmoodb | really |
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| 06:38.49 | antixogh | what are pirates so mean? |
| 06:38.50 | dbmoodb | you are a real life pirate not a copyright infr right ? |
| 06:38.53 | antixogh | why* |
| 06:38.59 | dbmoodb | yarrh |
| 06:39.00 | netgear | dbmoodb, you really think i would incriminite myself :) |
| 06:39.06 | dbmoodb | - i said |
| 06:39.12 | dbmoodb | are you a real life pirate |
| 06:39.17 | netgear | ah |
| 06:39.18 | netgear | lol |
| 06:39.19 | dbmoodb | - why do people get confused |
| 06:39.24 | LoneTech | netgear: both answers would have been a trivial apt-cache search anyhow |
| 06:39.31 | dbmoodb | -damn right |
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| 06:39.52 | netgear | im still adding cdroms and deb repos to sources.list atm |
| 06:39.59 | dbmoodb | ffs... |
| 06:41.55 | jochieng | i have a small scenario and quick question....!? |
| 06:42.30 | LoneTech | jochieng: so you say. Are you planning on keeping it? |
| 06:43.42 | jochieng | ofcource .. there was a website that was not being seen on th net . it was giving me forbiden ... /root error ono the browser, i tried to google for this and thought hmmm it cld be my httpd.conf but how when other websites are being viewed on th net.. |
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| 06:44.27 | jochieng | however, some programmer told me it was phishing, i wonder if i can make a soft IXP on debian |
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| 06:44.34 | LoneTech | I'm not going to parse that text. |
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| 06:46.15 | netgear | when using apt-cdrom its adds lines to sources.list |
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| 06:46.36 | antixogh | so you want to know if you can make a "soft IXP" on debian? |
| 06:46.59 | netgear | now i have made iso images and mounted them |
| 06:47.04 | simonrvn | LoneTech: i segfaulted when i tried |
| 06:47.18 | netgear | when using the same that apt-cdrom had added eg etch contrin main |
| 06:47.19 | ruth | antixogh : Did you find that ? |
| 06:47.32 | minus198 | I'm planning on buying a new NIC. But I'm worried about the possibility of it not working under linux. Is there a list of known functioning NIC's somewhere? |
| 06:47.42 | antixogh | ruth: nothing has come up yet |
| 06:47.44 | netgear | i get problems when running apt-get update |
| 06:47.59 | ruth | antixogh : ok |
| 06:48.07 | netgear | linux-certified.com i think |
| 06:48.10 | antixogh | netgear: error messages? |
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| 06:48.14 | LoneTech | simon: I've no idea what the context of that message was. I'm returning to bed now. |
| 06:48.39 | antixogh | lonetech:(12:44:34 AM) LoneTech: I'm not going to parse that text. |
| 06:48.43 | minus198 | netgear, Was that link pointed at me? |
| 06:48.53 | netgear | yes Err file: etch/contrib Packages |
| 06:49.01 | simonrvn | LoneTech: (trying to read jochieng's message). g'night |
| 06:49.35 | netgear | minus198, yes |
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| 06:50.40 | netgear | minus198, seems thats only for notebooks, what NIC you want to buy? |
| 06:51.07 | minus198 | netgear, "INTEL PRO/1000PT DESKTOP MANAGEABLE PCI-E" |
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| 06:52.43 | dbmoodb | hi look i have a problem with cups it isn't letting me use postscript with a pritner |
| 06:52.47 | dbmoodb | am i missing a package ? |
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| 06:54.31 | ReKlipz | how do I get my debian box to automatically create my ethernet bridge between eth1 and eth2 on startup? |
| 06:55.14 | notfundesktop | I'd like to know how a simple ethernet bridge is setup at all :/ |
| 06:55.19 | minus198 | netgear, I searched some, and I found that the Controller is supported in debian.. |
| 06:55.33 | netgear | minus198, http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatibility.html |
| 06:55.40 | netgear | my internet connection is real slow now |
| 06:56.35 | ReKlipz | notfundesktop: you simply install the bridge-utils package, and type something similar to the following: # brctl addbr br0 && brctl addif br0 eth0 && brctl addif br0 eth1, and then use br0 with ifconfig like normal |
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| 06:57.16 | notfundesktop | ReKlipz: nice! |
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| 07:02.29 | dserban_ | Hey everyone, I've got a simple question. I've gone wholly amd64 for the past year, but I'm setting up a 32bit athlon xp system, I've installed it (well upgraded a pre-etch sid to the latest sid) and I've noticed that currently there isn't a candidate for the k7 flavour. Is that on purpose or is the k7 package for linux-image no longer part of the archive. If that's the case, which image should I install? |
| 07:03.29 | artagnon | I'm unable to start the X server as a nonroot user. ~/.xsession-errors reports a "open: Permission denied" -- I checked that the user's home directory is owned by user:user recursively |
| 07:03.33 | artagnon | what could be wrong? |
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| 07:04.19 | dserban_ | artagnon: just start [g|x|k]dm via the root user. |
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| 07:04.40 | simonrvn | dserban_: got removed, 686 should do |
| 07:04.46 | artagnon | dserban_: I don't use any of them |
| 07:04.53 | antixogh | is a new kernel-image considered a secuity update? |
| 07:05.03 | artagnon | I want to start X as a nonroot user |
| 07:05.04 | dserban_ | oh it did? Meh!!! :( |
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| 07:06.28 | blahdeblah | Hi. After upgrading to linux-image-2.6.18-5-amd64 version 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5 (or any of the 2.6.18-5 images), my system won't boot. What's the best way to file a bug report, given that i can't capture the kernel panic? |
| 07:06.55 | dserban_ | artagnon: Oh then I'm the wrong guy to ask since I've never attempted it. Though I can't see why that would be. Most devices I would assume would have some permission issues (video, mouse, keyboard) |
| 07:07.37 | artagnon | np. On all my other systems too, I don't run display managers -- I start X as a nonroot user |
| 07:08.10 | antixogh | I used to do that |
| 07:08.17 | antixogh | then I got lazy |
| 07:08.23 | artagnon | I put together this system from another system -- I missed some small setting somewhere |
| 07:08.34 | artagnon | antixogh: I don't use X when I don't need to |
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| 07:09.50 | antixogh | artagnon: I noted, i'm lazy so I use a gui when I can, even if I don't need to |
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| 07:12.30 | antixogh | artagnon: I missed the first part what are you trying to do? |
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| 07:12.54 | ReKlipz | i figured out the auto bridging stuff, if anyone wants to know |
| 07:13.51 | antixogh | an athlon xp is a k7 yes? |
| 07:13.55 | artagnon | antixogh: start X as a nonroot user |
| 07:14.12 | artagnon | for some reason it keeps shutting down with a "open: Permission denied" error |
| 07:14.51 | antixogh | I would check owner and permission of X11 |
| 07:15.17 | antixogh | unless there is a specific file it is choking on |
| 07:15.30 | artagnon | of X11? |
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| 07:15.55 | antixogh | the folder and the files in the folder /etc/X11 |
| 07:15.59 | blahdeblah | antixogh: Yes, athlon XP is a K7 |
| 07:16.24 | artagnon | antixogh: why should that matter? a user isn't supposed to be able to write to that directory anyway, right? |
| 07:16.35 | antixogh | blahdeblah: no kidding.. I have been using the wrong kernel |
| 07:16.38 | simonrvn | check /tmp |
| 07:16.51 | blahdeblah | antixogh: It will still work on 686 |
| 07:17.23 | minus198 | How do I get my computer to boot faster? |
| 07:17.30 | artagnon | simonrvn: yeah okay, just a sec |
| 07:17.51 | simonrvn | just gut instinct, could be nothing |
| 07:17.51 | antixogh | artagnon: not write, but read and maybe even exe other wise how are you going to exeicute startx |
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| 07:18.27 | artagnon | simonrvn: :) nice one. Problem solved. Thanks |
| 07:18.28 | blahdeblah | minus198: Generic answer: Turn off services you don't need, add RAM, upgrade hard disks, reboot less often |
| 07:18.49 | ReKlipz | does anyone know have experience with proftd? |
| 07:18.51 | simonrvn | good |
| 07:18.54 | ReKlipz | err, proftpd |
| 07:19.00 | dserban_ | ReKlipz: vsftpd |
| 07:19.00 | artagnon | antixogh: the problem was with /tmp not being writable by everyone... thanks anyway :) |
| 07:19.09 | notfundesktop | minus198: possibly software suspend could help |
| 07:19.14 | minus198 | blahdeblah, Sorry for my vague question. It was rather: "how to I turn of services I don't use?" :P |
| 07:19.15 | dbmoodb | lprm: lp: cannot chdir to spool directory |
| 07:19.15 | dbmoodb | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:19.22 | ReKlipz | dserban_: why's that? |
| 07:19.37 | minus198 | blahdeblah, Cause my hardware is kinda good so.. |
| 07:19.55 | blahdeblah | minus198: I haven't discovered a single consistent way to do this on Debian yet - there doesn't seem any direct equivalent to chkconfig on RH/SUSE. |
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| 07:20.24 | minus198 | blahdeblah, ok.. :/ |
| 07:20.24 | blahdeblah | minus198: You can look at some of the files in /etc/default/ but not all of them will have a setting there |
| 07:20.26 | ReKlipz | dserban_: Oh, I see |
| 07:20.28 | dserban_ | ReKlipz: much better security history |
| 07:20.32 | simonrvn | rcconf and sysvconfig besides update-rc.d |
| 07:20.38 | minus198 | blahdeblah, ok, I'll check it out |
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| 07:20.43 | dserban_ | bbiab |
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| 07:21.32 | blahdeblah | minus198: Oh, there's also update-rc.d, but it's harder to use than chkconfig on other distros (you have to know the right values to plug in). |
| 07:21.42 | ReKlipz | for what its worth, the problem I am having is that when a user clicks a file, for instance, a zip file, it alerts them that it is not a directory, instead of having them download it (they have to right click save as). |
| 07:22.02 | antixog1 | I keep getting hard crashes, can't do anything but reboot and I have a k7 and use an 686 kernel so I think I should try a k7 kernel |
| 07:22.02 | dbmoodb | anyone ? |
| 07:22.16 | minus198 | blahdeblah, I see.. Maybe something that I shouldn't put my fingers in then ^^ |
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| 07:22.49 | antixog1 | is this logical? |
| 07:22.53 | blahdeblah | antixog1: In general i would expect that not to help much. |
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| 07:23.36 | antixog1 | hmm any other ideas? |
| 07:24.08 | netgear | why, if i have iso images mounted as repositories and added them first in sources.list does apt-get still donwnload first from the internet repository? |
| 07:24.26 | dbmoodb | no one ? |
| 07:24.27 | antixog1 | I havn't been able to find anything help in the syslog. |
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| 07:30.26 | notfundesktop | sometimes, my X freezes, and I can't use keyboard/mouse anymore, although Linux still seems to be running :( |
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| 07:31.04 | notfundesktop | i.e. numlock and sysrqs still work |
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| 07:32.18 | ReKlipz | dserban: still getting the same problem with vsftpd |
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| 07:43.28 | ddalton | can someone help me get gnome working? I am blind as well |
| 07:43.49 | ddalton | and I can't log in atm because no speech. |
| 07:43.57 | ddalton | but can I get x working first maybe? |
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| 07:45.42 | antixog1 | linux-image-2.6-k7: Depends: linux-image-2.6.22-3-k7 but it is not installable |
| 07:46.09 | ddalton | can someone help me? |
| 07:46.24 | netgear | ddalton, where you chatting from? |
| 07:46.30 | mathesis | what's wrong ddalton ? |
| 07:46.46 | \amethyst | antixog1: you use unstable? |
| 07:46.53 | antixog1 | yes |
| 07:46.58 | \amethyst | antixog1: there is no -k7 kernel anymore |
| 07:47.07 | antixog1 | oh.. |
| 07:47.18 | ddalton | well I want to try and get x working. currently I have gnome installed but startx still fails. and apparently when typing at the gnome log on prompt nothing happens. I am blind as well and have no gui screenreader yet. |
| 07:47.25 | ddalton | but if I can get x going I should be ok |
| 07:47.33 | antixog1 | so everything is 686? |
| 07:47.38 | \amethyst | antixog1: use either -686 or -amd64 |
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| 07:47.57 | \amethyst | antixog1: depending on whether you want a 32- or 64-bit kernel (you can use 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace) |
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| 07:48.16 | mathesis | ddalton: what's use testing,stable,unstable? |
| 07:48.42 | perfector | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:48.44 | netgear | ddalton, /etc/init.d/gdm start |
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| 07:49.00 | antixog1 | well I have a 32-bit amd athlon. would do you think I should use? |
| 07:49.08 | ddalton | so can someone help? or did I miss a reply? |
| 07:49.09 | antixog1 | athlon xp* |
| 07:49.11 | mathesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.16 | mathesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.30 | \amethyst | antixog1: then -686 |
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| 07:49.38 | \amethyst | antixog1: -amd64 won't work on that machine :) |
| 07:49.39 | antixog1 | alright thank you |
| 07:49.44 | mathesis | antixog1: |
| 07:49.48 | ddalton | I restart gdm? |
| 07:49.50 | antixog1 | I didn't think so either |
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| 07:49.58 | \amethyst | I'm going to be switching to -amd64 kernel soon I guess |
| 07:50.01 | netgear | ddalton, yes |
| 07:50.01 | antixog1 | mathesis: yes? |
| 07:50.03 | mathesis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:50.40 | antixog1 | mathesis: do you want me to pastebin the results? |
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| 07:51.14 | mathesis | the kernel depends of archiquecture cpu |
| 07:51.14 | artagnon | how do I monitor my laptop battery? APMD says my kernel wasn't compiled with apmd support... xbattbar says "Can't read proc info: No such file or directory" |
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| 07:51.15 | artagnon | do I need another kernel image? |
| 07:51.15 | blahdeblah | ddalton: We're not ignoring you - we just don't know very much about working with a screen reader |
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| 07:51.53 | ddalton | ok I loose speech in that console and see a bright screen. or brighter. I also heard the pc speaker beep. |
| 07:51.58 | ddalton | now should I run startx? |
| 07:52.17 | mathesis | ddalton: test |
| 07:52.18 | netgear | isnt that login screen? |
| 07:52.31 | mathesis | startx |
| 07:52.33 | ddalton | test what? |
| 07:52.39 | mathesis | in the prompt |
| 07:52.46 | blahdeblah | ddalton: off-topic, but were you at OSDC last week? |
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| 07:53.10 | ddalton | oh well I can't read the screen I am visually impared but i'll go get some sighted help |
| 07:53.21 | antixog1 | results of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" -> http://pastebin.com/m238a9ad5 |
| 07:53.25 | netgear | he said bright screen,maybe its login for gnome? |
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| 07:58.38 | antixog1 | what is the difference between 486 and 686? |
| 07:59.07 | \amethyst | antixog1: 486 will work on older processors |
| 07:59.19 | ddalton | it works!!! thx |
| 07:59.27 | ddalton | now does anyone know about the orca project? |
| 07:59.33 | ddalton | or could you help me out a bit? |
| 07:59.36 | \amethyst | antixog1: and doesn't have SMP or >1GB support |
| 07:59.40 | artagnon | when I try to start apm, it says "No APM support in kernel". Is this a problem? how will I monitor my laptop battery? |
| 08:00.09 | antixog1 | hmm, i'm confused by these kernel names and discriptions |
| 08:00.37 | enouf | ddalton: hi, so was the issue only that you needed to enter in username and password into GDMs login screen? |
| 08:00.38 | artagnon | is it probably hiding somewhere as a kernel module? What should I try to load with modprobe? |
| 08:00.53 | faust_ | artagnon, doesn't acpi do battery monitoring too? |
| 08:01.08 | faust_ | apm is mainly for older systems as I understand it. |
| 08:01.18 | ddalton | hi enouf, no. it was fairly simple. I just needed to restart gdm. |
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| 08:01.37 | ddalton | and I used your tasksel command. Thanks for that. |
| 08:01.39 | artagnon | faust_: I see. I'll try that then |
| 08:01.42 | \amethyst | artagnon: what if you do modprobe apm first? |
| 08:01.44 | ddalton | ok thanks for all the help everyone. |
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| 08:02.01 | artagnon | \amethyst: it fails to load... No such device |
| 08:02.09 | enouf | bah he left ;-) |
| 08:02.12 | \amethyst | ah, then ACPI is the way to go |
| 08:02.42 | artagnon | acpi says: No support for device type: battery |
| 08:02.48 | artagnon | what's happening? |
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| 08:03.24 | \amethyst | artagnon: what computer do you have? |
| 08:03.36 | artagnon | an ASUS F5R series |
| 08:03.37 | enouf | (i was going to say) for those concerned; ddalton is on Etch using a custom .18-speakup kernel (made by a debian person, so not an issue) - and i recently helped him install X and gnome, using tasksel install desktop {and gnome-desktop} |
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| 08:05.19 | artagnon | \amethyst: ah, it's working now... |
| 08:05.32 | artagnon | faust_ && \amethyst: Thanks. It works |
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| 08:14.42 | Vasistha | !provides |
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| 08:16.13 | ronr_ | is there a debian package that I can use to add quota support (for virtual domains and its users) to postfix? |
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| 08:27.56 | artagnon | My sudo isn't working.. everytime I try to sudo something, it says "Unable to resolve host wsl" (wsl is my hostname) |
| 08:28.00 | artagnon | what's wrong? |
| 08:28.25 | \amethyst | artagnon: you need an entry for wsl in /etc/hosts |
| 08:28.28 | \amethyst | or in DNS |
| 08:29.05 | artagnon | I don't even have a /etc/hosts |
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| 08:29.14 | artagnon | okay, I created one and put wsl in it |
| 08:29.58 | \amethyst | artagnon: it should be ip-address hostname aliases |
| 08:30.28 | wols_ | ronr_: usually it's not the MTA with the quota but the mail storage /imap daemon for example) |
| 08:30.31 | \amethyst | where aliases might be empty |
| 08:30.38 | wols_ | e.g. cyrus has full daemon support |
| 08:31.14 | artagnon | \amethyst: Ah, thanks a bunch |
| 08:31.17 | artagnon | it works fine now |
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| 08:32.25 | abbe | hi channel, trying to configure selinux on ubuntu |
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| 08:33.20 | abbe | can anyone tell in which runlevel is 'selinux-basics' init.d script needs to be executed ?? |
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| 08:34.08 | \amethyst | abbe: we wouldn't know---probably either S or 2 but you'd have to ask #ubuntu to be sure |
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| 08:36.22 | abbe | \amethyst: yes its in by default S, but I think it should be 2 also |
| 08:36.30 | abbe | \amethyst: thanks for this :) |
| 08:36.57 | \amethyst | shouldn't need to be both |
| 08:37.15 | \amethyst | it probably only needs to run once per boot |
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| 08:37.29 | \amethyst | so S, if it works, would be sufficient |
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| 08:43.23 | artagnon | where can I get the Synaptics touchpad driver? isn't cpad-common what I need? |
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| 08:46.27 | agslinux | hello |
| 08:46.29 | agslinux | update failed: NOTAUTH(BADKEY) |
| 08:46.47 | agslinux | i got this on when i try to perform nsupdate with TSIG |
| 08:48.06 | artagnon | sorry, my question should be repharsed as: I have a touchpad that just works but not perfectly with all the features... am I missing kernel modules or userland tools? |
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| 08:51.47 | abbe | \amethyst: I still get denials, even in S |
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| 08:51.58 | nocturn | Hi gusys |
| 08:52.13 | nocturn | I installed Debian etch, AMD64 |
| 08:52.27 | nocturn | How can I set it up so that it can also run 32-bit apps? |
| 08:53.03 | dbmoodb | hi i'm tyring to use a printer in raw mode how can i do this ? |
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| 08:53.17 | \amethyst | abbe: denials? |
| 08:53.42 | \amethyst | nocturn: which apps? |
| 08:54.11 | abbe | \amethyst: http://rafb.net/p/xJMiQI72.html |
| 08:54.21 | \amethyst | nocturn: depending on on what libraries they need, you might be able to get by with ia32-libs, ia32-libs-gtk, etc |
| 08:54.34 | \amethyst | nocturn: otherwise you can set up a 32-bit chroot with debootstrap |
| 08:54.58 | abbe | \amethyst: I'm running refpolicy trunk compiled with DISTRO=debian and MLS/MCS disabled |
| 08:56.02 | \amethyst | abbe: so it sounds lke those programs need to be granted more permissions... I don't know much about selinux, so I probably can't help any more |
| 08:56.16 | abbe | \amethyst: okay |
| 08:56.37 | artagnon | SHMConfig is disabled. What is that and how do I enable it? |
| 08:57.42 | nocturn | thaks \amethyst , trying... |
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| 09:03.00 | perfector | i cant see fonts in my gtk apps.. pls help |
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| 09:12.59 | dimir | Moin! |
| 09:17.34 | nocturn | \amethyst: thanks, installed ia32-libs and it works |
| 09:17.52 | nocturn | Anyone know how I can have a global known_hosts file with SSH? |
| 09:18.01 | nocturn | (instead of one per user) |
| 09:18.25 | \amethyst | nocturn: /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts |
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| 09:19.24 | nocturn | Thanks again \amethyst |
| 09:19.27 | patrick-- | Hey, is it possible to append echo'd text to sudoers? cause i read that sudoers is only to be modifies with visudo or a simmilar editor |
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| 09:20.31 | karmatronic | patrick--: well you can echo to /etc/sudoers |
| 09:20.40 | karmatronic | patrick--: it s just not recommended |
| 09:21.44 | patrick-- | meaning, that i will work? |
| 09:21.53 | patrick-- | i just wann to add a line automated |
| 09:21.54 | karmatronic | patrick--: yes |
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| 09:24.26 | jolt^d4 | patrick--: I'm just a bit curious, why do you want to add stuff automated to sudoers |
| 09:24.29 | jolt^d4 | ? |
| 09:24.52 | karmatronic | jolt^d4: because its easier to mae a script for adding new sudo stuf |
| 09:25.07 | karmatronic | jolt^d4: instead o editing by hand and having to remember the syntax |
| 09:25.14 | jolt^d4 | Ah, ok |
| 09:25.45 | jolt^d4 | The syntax is a bit awkward, yes |
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| 09:33.39 | abbe | hatter: mutt, gnus, and kmail |
| 09:34.08 | patrick-- | jolt^d4: its just that i want to add a line to sudoers within a postinst script of a package |
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| 09:44.36 | nocturn | ganglia-monitor and meta are in etch's repos |
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| 10:06.13 | axscode | OT: anyone from ukrain please message me. |
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| 10:09.21 | tt_ | Hi |
| 10:09.31 | tt_ | anyone know where i could set gcc flags? |
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| 10:22.17 | viagrabot | viagra! |
| 10:22.30 | viagrabot | http://viagra.com/ |
| 10:22.40 | viagrabot | natural male enhancement: |
| 10:22.46 | viagrabot | http://viagra.com/ |
| 10:22.57 | viagrabot | pleasure your spouse: |
| 10:23.06 | viagrabot | http://viagra.com/ |
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| 10:23.25 | viagrabot | And then I pulled down my pants |
| 10:23.29 | viagrabot | AND BANG!! |
| 10:23.30 | Ronin | !ops viagrabot is well spamming about viagara |
| 10:23.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: ronin complains about: viagrabot is well spamming about viagara |
| 10:23.45 | catron | lolz |
| 10:24.02 | catron | j/k guys, I use ubuntu (close enough :P) |
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| 10:25.18 | gordonjcp | has anyone here got any suggestions on how to get spamassassin in Etch to actually catch spam? |
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| 10:26.31 | themill | gordonjcp: dcc and razor plugins to spamassassin are good |
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| 10:26.48 | Penix | I like power stone. I can see seizures in the future... |
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| 10:28.45 | gordonjcp | themill: are they in apt? |
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| 10:28.48 | themill | gordonjcp: I also reweight the bayes tests higher when the network tests are enabled (by default, the bayes tests are weighted quite low when network tests are enabled) |
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| 10:28.58 | Penix | nothing's in apt |
| 10:29.03 | nocturn | How can I load a kernel module on the install CD before it actually mounts root? |
| 10:29.13 | nocturn | I need a special driver for a disk controller |
| 10:29.23 | Penix | isn't there a menu entry for that? |
| 10:29.24 | themill | gordonjcp: spamassassin config to increase bayes learner weighting http://rafb.net/p/DyIjlU92.html |
| 10:30.11 | gordonjcp | themill: it's not actually matching any rules, though |
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| 10:30.22 | gordonjcp | so I could set the weighting as high as I like... |
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| 10:30.41 | themill | gordonjcp: do you have the bayes learner enabled? It needs to be trained to start with. |
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| 10:31.01 | Ronin | which requires a couple hundred to go through if i recall correctly |
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| 10:31.10 | gordonjcp | themill: yes, but nothing is actually triggering any rules |
| 10:31.21 | kombi | is vpsland.com down for good? |
| 10:31.31 | gordonjcp | no, hang on, there's one that's triggered HTML_IMAGE_ONLY |
| 10:31.33 | ToMMY2k | hey...Im going about the job of updating my kernel from 2.6.13.4 to 2.6.22. Ive ued my old config file and Ive done make-kpkg clean and it fails with "*** Error. I do not know where the kernel image goes to [kimagedest undefined] The usual case for this is that I could not determine which arch or subarch tihs machine belongs to. Please specify a subarch, and try again.. Stop.". |
| 10:31.47 | Timo^ | !nickometer Timo^ |
| 10:31.49 | dpkg | 'Timo^' is 14.000% lame, timo^ |
| 10:31.53 | ToMMY2k | Im not sure what the error message means and Ive googled for help but not really come up with anything usefull |
| 10:32.01 | themill | gordonjcp: the bayes learner rules should *always* be triggered. The message will get either a +ve or -ve score depending on it's bayes percentage. |
| 10:32.17 | ToMMY2k | Can anyone give me any pointers to get this working? |
| 10:32.34 | gordonjcp | ToMMY2k: sounds like you haven't defined a thing to tell it where the kernel image goes |
| 10:32.52 | themill | ToMMY2k: did you make oldconfig? |
| 10:32.53 | Penix | ToMMY2k: is this with make oldconfig or just copying the file over? |
| 10:33.17 | themill | ToMMY2k: and you're best to use make-kpkg. /msg dpkg kp-mantra |
| 10:33.18 | ToMMY2k | Penix: Ive loaded up the config file in menuconfig, and then saved it to .config in the source directory |
| 10:33.23 | kombi | could someone try pinging vpsland.com? Maybe it is just us but they seem to have gone for days with all those websites we hosted... |
| 10:33.35 | Penix | he's using make-kpkg |
| 10:33.44 | themill | Penix: bah. |
| 10:33.48 | Penix | !lose themill |
| 10:33.49 | dpkg | themill: You Lose. |
| 10:33.53 | ToMMY2k | haha |
| 10:34.02 | themill | Penix: make-kpkg will actually run make oldconfig automatically |
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| 10:34.29 | gordonjcp | kombi: I got *some* ping replies |
| 10:34.42 | gordonjcp | kombi: 50% packet loss, and now nothing at all |
| 10:34.44 | themill | kombi: they're not feeding their hamptser enough... 90% packet loss |
| 10:34.45 | Sebboh | uhoh |
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| 10:35.03 | gordonjcp | themill: 100% now |
| 10:35.06 | gordonjcp | I win! |
| 10:35.11 | kombi | gordonjcp, themill: oh, oh... do you get there website? |
| 10:35.18 | themill | !win gordonjcp |
| 10:35.18 | dpkg | Congratulations, gordonjcp! You have won the US presidency! |
| 10:35.22 | ToMMY2k | Penix: any ideas? |
| 10:35.23 | gordonjcp | kombi: no, I just tried pinging it |
| 10:35.29 | themill | heh.. that should be for lose not win |
| 10:35.44 | ShredZ | Where can I see the actual problem when I get errors on the post configuration of a package ? |
| 10:35.52 | kombi | gordonjcp: gone they are... if only I could remember which site we ran on there.. |
| 10:36.11 | Sebboh | sudo: unable to resolve host blahblah -- I just changed the machine's name to blahblah. But, if I can't sudo.. how can I edit /etc/hosts so that blahblah will resolve? :( Wait, maybe I can just change $HOSTNAME or whatever in the environment of that shell... |
| 10:36.43 | gordonjcp | themill: use_bayes is set to 1, which suggests it's enabled |
| 10:36.50 | Sebboh | ... there is no environment variable that stores hostname.. |
| 10:37.04 | kombi | gordonjcp, themill: can you recommend a good us bases vps hoster still in operation ? ;) |
| 10:37.06 | themill | gordonjcp: dcc-client and razor are the packages I use. There's also pyzor which is a free version of razor iirc. But it sounds like you need to make sure that the mail is actually going through SA. |
| 10:37.06 | gordonjcp | kombi: wait until a customer phones up and starts swearing? |
| 10:37.17 | gordonjcp | kombi: I don't know anything about hosting in the US |
| 10:37.25 | kombi | gordonjcp: lol.. the usual procedure.. |
| 10:37.35 | gordonjcp | themill: it's got SA headers |
| 10:37.37 | ShredZ | I get this problem with apache: dpkg: error processing apache (--configure): |
| 10:37.37 | ShredZ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:38.32 | Penix | ToMMY2k: tried specifying an arch like it suggests? --subarch=i386 or --arch=i386? |
| 10:38.49 | ToMMY2k | Penix: ok, thanks |
| 10:38.51 | themill | gordonjcp: the bayes tests will be automatically skipped if it hasn't been trained on enough messages yet. I normally throw a couple of mboxes of spam and ham at it with 200 or so emails in each. |
| 10:38.53 | alinuxlb-22 | Hi can anyone provide me with a recommendation for a TURN/STUN daemon ? |
| 10:38.55 | kombi | anyone here know a good us bases vps hoster? ours seemingly ceased to exist taking all the os tweiking with him.. |
| 10:39.12 | Sebboh | Help! sudo stopped working after I changed the machine's hostname... sudo: unable to resolve host blahblah .. I can't change it back, nor can I edit /etc/hosts without sudo? (No root password exists...) |
| 10:39.25 | gordonjcp | themill: hmm, I've got about 500 spam since yesterday... |
| 10:39.49 | karmatronic | Sebboh: you dont know root password ? |
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| 10:39.58 | kombi | gordonjcp: I didn't follow this but have you done sa-update? |
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| 10:40.10 | themill | gordonjcp: that should be a good corpus to train it on. But you need to actually use sa-learn on that box. The bayes learner requires you to manually tell it that this is spam or ham. |
| 10:40.19 | Sebboh | karmatronic: root login is deliberately disabled, per modern tradition. My user is a sudoer. |
| 10:40.37 | karmatronic | Sebboh: modern tradition ? |
| 10:40.44 | themill | oxymoron... |
| 10:40.48 | themill | gordonjcp: I found that training only with spam was bad too. Train it on ham too. |
| 10:40.54 | gordonjcp | themill: yes, I know |
| 10:41.06 | gordonjcp | themill: I've been using spamassassin successfully for years on NetBSD |
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| 10:41.28 | gordonjcp | hence my surprise at how badly it's performing on this machine |
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| 10:41.44 | themill | gordonjcp: did you just copy over the bayes db from the netbsd box? |
| 10:41.45 | Sebboh | karma, Gah. When I installed my debian system, it asked me if I wanted to set a root pass or leave root login impossible. I chose the later, so that I'd never type the root pass in over any channel.. Granted, I still type the user pass in all the time, and it's just as good as the root pass... |
| 10:41.50 | ToMMY2k | Penix: Working :) thanks again |
| 10:42.23 | themill | Sebboh: either use a live cd to change /etc/hostname or /etc/hosts or /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
| 10:42.31 | gordonjcp | themill: nope, the netbsd box is offline just now |
| 10:42.41 | gordonjcp | themill: I doubt that would work anyway |
| 10:42.51 | themill | gordonjcp: so do I, that was why I was asking :) |
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| 10:43.22 | elementz | hi everybody |
| 10:43.29 | gordonjcp | I suspect the db format may be a bit different, 'cos it's an old install so it will be using an old BDB |
| 10:43.30 | themill | dpkg: greet elementz |
| 10:43.31 | dpkg | Nihao, elementz |
| 10:43.56 | elementz | elementz:greet dpkg |
| 10:43.57 | themill | gordonjcp: yes... SA has changed it's db format a couple of times and it just silently barfs on the bayes tests when that happens |
| 10:44.12 | Sebboh | ... It's a virtual machine. ..I don't think that it even responds to the virtual soft-power button.. All I can do is cut the power.. d'oh. |
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| 10:44.20 | Sebboh | Maybe I can just get sudo working. :/ |
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| 10:44.56 | themill | Sebboh: if it's a virtual machine, then try mounting the virtual disk from outside the vm and fix up your hostname |
| 10:45.11 | elementz | guys, i need the possibility to tunnel to a remote shell via openvpn, so that i can stream from hulu.com - anybody got a hint, where i could find something like that? not willing to pay for a remote shell yet |
| 10:45.32 | Sebboh | themill, fine, but I'd still have to power down the virt machine the hard way. ..Hmm, maybe I have samba on that box... |
| 10:45.46 | Kevin` | elementz why openvpn instead of just ssh? for tcp you can do it directly |
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| 10:46.42 | elementz | Kevin` ? you mean via ssh? no need to tunnel? you sure? http://www.ghacks.net/2007/11/06/access-hulu-from-outside-the-united-states/ |
| 10:47.02 | themill | Sebboh: you can't signal the vm to turn off from outside? simulating an acpi turn off event or something? Send it a Ctrl+Alt+Del? |
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| 10:47.10 | Kevin` | elementz what protocols does "hulu" use? |
| 10:47.16 | gener1c | O.O |
| 10:47.21 | gener1c | O.o |
| 10:47.33 | Kevin` | elementz if it's just a web site, then yes. |
| 10:47.45 | Sebboh | themill, the virt machine doesn't respond to the ACPI event.. But ctrl+alt+del should work!!! Thanks. :) Good work. |
| 10:48.15 | Sebboh | init=/bin/sh for the win. |
| 10:48.17 | themill | Sebboh: you'll have to hard power it down while it's at the bootloader stage if you're wanting to be nice to the vm. |
| 10:48.26 | themill | or do that.... |
| 10:48.28 | elementz | Kevin` not sure. I know, that a normal proxy will not suffice... |
| 10:48.38 | Kevin` | elementz well, find out. |
| 10:48.39 | themill | Sebboh: personally, all my vms are disposable so I don't care about such things. ;) |
| 10:48.48 | patrick-- | http://nopaste.php-quake.net/11760 |
| 10:48.51 | patrick-- | ideas? :D |
| 10:48.56 | patrick-- | i messed up the postinst script |
| 10:49.10 | patrick-- | can you not echo within that script? |
| 10:49.13 | elementz | Kevin` well, i know they stream via flash. but the protocols - no clue where to look ;-[ |
| 10:49.14 | Sebboh | themill, the integrity of your VM's filesystems doesn't matter? :) |
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| 10:49.17 | Kevin` | emet ssh can act as a socks proxy and forward all traffic for a web browser rather easily |
| 10:49.43 | karmatronic | elementz: you should rather use a us web proxy |
| 10:49.46 | Kevin` | elementz rather |
| 10:49.54 | karmatronic | elementz: as suggested on the web page you pointed |
| 10:50.06 | karmatronic | elementz: rather than tunneling anything |
| 10:50.10 | themill | Sebboh: no. They never contain anything interesting or useful. I always mount another fs into the vm if I want to get data into it, otherwise they're usually just testing playgrounds for me. |
| 10:50.45 | gordonjcp | argh, I give up |
| 10:51.07 | themill | gordonjcp: :( |
| 10:51.15 | karmatronic | elementz: other way you can install openvpn on your home machine un the US |
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| 10:51.19 | elementz | karmatronic huh? don't they say i should use secure tunnel? thats a vpn right? so i need a server in the us i can tunnel to. |
| 10:51.37 | Sebboh | themill, ahh. Mine are dev machines now, but, I will use VMs for prod, too, for the sole reason of making it easy to spend money on one server now, and divide the workload later.. :) |
| 10:51.41 | themill | patrick--: It's probably a perl script so no, echo won't work. Try print instead, and put a ; at the end of the line. |
| 10:51.48 | Kevin` | elementz "secure tunnel" can mean a lot of things to the uninformed blogger |
| 10:51.53 | themill | Sebboh: sounds fair |
| 10:51.59 | elementz | karmatronic thats what i was thinking - prob is, i don't have a server in the us. and not very much willing to pay for a service like that |
| 10:52.14 | karmatronic | elementz: no what they say is you should use their VPN client to access their VPN server |
| 10:52.15 | elementz | Kevin` ok, how would you go about then? |
| 10:52.22 | gordonjcp | themill: it's not even triggering on blatant viagra spam |
| 10:52.33 | patrick-- | themill: how can i appent sth to the end of a file in perl? |
| 10:52.41 | Kevin` | elementz i'm willing to try something out with you if you want, but i'd rather you find someone else long term since the bandwidth for streaming video will be high |
| 10:52.48 | elementz | karmatronic yes i know. and that vpn server costs money |
| 10:53.11 | Sebboh | ssh has tunnel capabilities. Quite nice ones, actually. SSH also has filesystem capabilities, and the ability to run one command and exit, etc. It's a secure tunnel+shell+RCP+remote-filesystem. Mmm, ssh. |
| 10:53.14 | Kevin` | elementz ssh -D something then point your web browser in it's settings to localhost:something (port number) as a socks proxy |
| 10:53.25 | karmatronic | elementz: now , you can try to use an opensource vpn client to access their VPN server |
| 10:53.34 | themill | gordonjcp: I take it that the bayes_toks and friends exist and are readable by the process that is supposed to be doing the scanning? |
| 10:53.40 | karmatronic | elementz: but you have no garantee protocols will match |
| 10:53.52 | elementz | karmatronic you think that might me possible without singing up? |
| 10:53.53 | Kevin` | elementz if you are running linu and want to try the best performing option, I really would like to try an ip-ip tunnel |
| 10:53.59 | karmatronic | elementz: and if they match , you re not sure it will work anyway |
| 10:54.03 | gordonjcp | themill: yup |
| 10:54.08 | elementz | karmatronic hm |
| 10:54.14 | karmatronic | elementz: try to use an US web proxy |
| 10:54.18 | themill | gordonjcp: Actually, it sounds like SA isn't even scanning the emails. Perhaps turn on debugging for SA... :) |
| 10:54.21 | gordonjcp | themill: but it doesn't even appear to be doing dumb matching on mail, very well |
| 10:54.26 | gordonjcp | themill: it's putting the headers in |
| 10:54.36 | gordonjcp | so it *is* passing through SA |
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| 10:54.46 | patrick-- | themill: how can i appent sth to the end of a file in perl? |
| 10:54.51 | Kevin` | elementz in return for testing it with me i'll let you watch tv for a few days :) |
| 10:54.52 | karmatronic | elementz: or try to find out what kind of VPN protocol is used at hulu |
| 10:54.52 | Bambr | hi, i'm build my own package and somehow, when it installs, it doesn't install the file which should be in it, doing dpkg --vextract my.pkg myPkg shows that file is in the archive, what could be the problem? |
| 10:54.58 | elementz | karmatronic ok - but i think proxy will not suffice will it? where could i find a good proxy with sufficient bw anyway? |
| 10:55.01 | alinuxlb-22 | Hi can anyone provide me with a recommendation for a TURN/STUN daemon ? |
| 10:55.10 | elementz | Kevin` cool whynot |
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| 10:55.23 | karmatronic | elementz: google proxy+public |
| 10:55.28 | elementz | Kevin` running win right now |
| 10:55.32 | elementz | karmatronic thx |
| 10:55.34 | gamag | the volume icon is missing in the notification area? how do I bring it back? |
| 10:55.48 | elementz | kevin guess i rather switch to linux? |
| 10:55.53 | gamag | i am unable to control the volume becuse it is not there. everytime i have to open alsamixer |
| 10:56.04 | Kevin` | elementz in order to try what I want to try, you will need to be running linux and not be behind a router. you could try ssh from windows though |
| 10:56.19 | elementz | Kevin` am behind a router |
| 10:56.22 | themill | patrick--: open(FOO, ">>filename") || die "Couldn't open filename: $!"; print FOO "Line to add\n"; close(FOO); |
| 10:56.46 | karmatronic | Kevin`: what you want to tunnel your TV? |
| 10:56.55 | elementz | karmatronic hulu.com |
| 10:57.11 | patrick-- | 3FOO? |
| 10:57.12 | elementz | karmatronic not available in europe |
| 10:57.16 | patrick-- | whats FOO ? :D |
| 10:57.20 | Kevin` | karmatronic ^, what I want to do is try a generic ip in ip tunnel, since i've never done that before |
| 10:57.58 | karmatronic | elementz: yeah i understood that :) |
| 10:58.15 | elementz | karmatronic :-) |
| 10:58.16 | karmatronic | elementz: that s why i suggested you use a US web proxy (a public one) |
| 10:58.17 | themill | patrick--: you need to have a filehandle. It has to have a name. I picked FOO. It doesn't matter what you call it. |
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| 10:58.51 | elementz | karmatronic i know.. but i believe a proxy won't suffice, dont't you think? |
| 10:58.52 | karmatronic | elementz: i leav in spain , so i could try the solution i suggested actually |
| 10:59.18 | elementz | karmatronic would be great! use openhulu.com to test it without an account |
| 10:59.20 | themill | patrick--: the Perl in 21 days website is a good place to learn some perl, and perl is a really handy thing to learn. http://docs.rinet.ru/P7/ch6.htm#OpeningaFile |
| 10:59.22 | up365 | gamag, right click on panel-add to panel-volume control or add launcher to panel from Apps-Snd & Vid |
| 10:59.24 | Kevin` | elementz why do you think a normal web proxy wouldn't suffice |
| 11:00.11 | elementz | Kevin` i think it's like rapidshare.com using a proxy does not help there as well. they use some sort of javascript to obtain the machines real ip i guess |
| 11:00.18 | gamag | up365: there is no volume control in the list |
| 11:00.32 | themill | patrick--: please stay in the channel and not in a pm. But yes, your suggestion looks right. |
| 11:00.40 | phr3ak | i have 512M ram, swapoff and ps tell 3G VSZ for a process. how possible this? |
| 11:01.15 | elementz | Kevin` karmatronic gotta be afk for a few mins - pls, if you made progress msg me, ok? |
| 11:01.27 | Kevin` | phr3ak virtual memory, most likely most of it unused or cached |
| 11:01.29 | zinx | phr3ak: virtual size != physical size |
| 11:01.38 | gamag | up365: done! it was so simple and i had to stay without volume control for 3 weeks. |
| 11:01.41 | gamag | up365: thanks |
| 11:01.41 | elementz | Kevin` karmatronic i mean pm ;-) |
| 11:01.45 | Kevin` | elementz I won't make any progress, i'm waiting for you to try something if you want |
| 11:02.01 | karmatronic | elementz: trying my solution :) |
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| 11:02.51 | up365 | gamag, turn it up now ;) |
| 11:03.02 | gamag | up365: but there is a problem, when I do panel-add -> application launcher --> sound and video -> volume control and click it once, the drop down volume slider doesn't come |
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| 11:03.07 | gamag | the full volume window opens |
| 11:03.22 | phr3ak | zinx: but swap is off!!! |
| 11:03.24 | gamag | i need the slider thingy also which comes up when we click it just once up365 |
| 11:03.49 | karmatronic | elementz: the hradest part is to find a good proxy ...:) |
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| 11:04.28 | up365 | gamag, that's left click for slider, right click for menu |
| 11:04.56 | gamag | on left click the volume control window opens |
| 11:05.01 | gamag | on right click it shows menu |
| 11:05.33 | gamag | up365: i need the volume slider appearing like pull down menu on single left click; and volume control window on double left click. the way it was before dist-upgrade to lenny. |
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| 11:06.09 | indu | hi all |
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| 11:06.27 | indu | I have installed gnome-baker from debian etch and when ever an empty Cd is inserted |
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| 11:06.48 | indu | it detects and asks whthere to ignore the cd or make data cd or audio cd |
| 11:06.53 | nocturn | nexit |
| 11:07.08 | indu | but when I select make data cd or audio cd, it just shows a message like |
| 11:07.10 | up365 | gamag, umm I don't know what lenny did but I know what you're looking for |
| 11:07.22 | zinx | phr3ak: ... so? the virtual size is just how much is mapped. it has nothing to do with how much ram it's taking. |
| 11:07.22 | indu | burn:/// is not a valid location |
| 11:07.27 | indu | what must be the problem |
| 11:07.50 | gamag | up365: so do I have to install any package to get that volume control |
| 11:08.22 | up365 | gamag, if you remove from panel, do you get a msg to reload vol control? |
| 11:08.41 | gamag | i removed it but no message to reload |
| 11:08.49 | gamag | i think the package for that is missing |
| 11:09.28 | up365 | gamag, maybe with upgrade, changed |
| 11:12.57 | elementz | Kevin` kk - prob is, i am behind a router |
| 11:13.14 | elementz | karmatronic anything working yet? did you find a working proxy? |
| 11:13.21 | themill | gordonjcp: I'm stumped... :( |
| 11:13.51 | Kevin` | elementz if you want to try ssh i'll let you, but the bandwidth usage will be pretty high and i'm already downloading stugg |
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| 11:14.16 | gamag | how can I see info about a package |
| 11:14.17 | gamag | dpkg info? |
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| 11:14.44 | themill | gamag: apt-cache show packagename |
| 11:14.47 | elementz | Kevin` ok let's do it - so putty will not suffice, will it? |
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| 11:15.06 | antixogh | if you are having dependancy problems with a package how should you contact the maintainer? |
| 11:15.27 | themill | antixogh: you can start by putting them into a pastebin and telling us |
| 11:15.27 | XSign | hi room,how can i set my gateway in shell?when i execute command"route add default gw x.x.x.x" it returns network unreachable |
| 11:15.30 | Kevin` | elementz putty should work fine |
| 11:15.53 | Kevin` | elementz give me a minute |
| 11:15.57 | elementz | Kevin` kk |
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| 11:16.26 | karmatronic | back |
| 11:16.49 | antixogh | well I don't have it handy at the moment it happened a few minutes ago while I was more concern with fising another problem |
| 11:17.06 | antixogh | fixing* |
| 11:17.31 | karmatronic | so the burn:// is solved ? |
| 11:17.31 | elementz | karmatronic and? any progress? i read up a bit. proxys will not suffice |
| 11:17.52 | XSign | karmatronic,how can i set my gateway in shell?when i execute command"route add default gw x.x.x.x" it returns network unreachable |
| 11:17.58 | karmatronic | elementz: sure ? |
| 11:18.06 | xand | !route |
| 11:18.06 | dpkg | To add a static route in Debian, just put "up route add -net ...." in the appropriate interface's stanza in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:18.16 | xand | XSign: why are you setting there? |
| 11:18.19 | patrick-- | themill: thats what i get: syntax error at /var/lib/dpkg/info/inco-sudo.postinst line 28, near "open" |
| 11:18.29 | xand | XSign: it should be specified in interfaces file or by dhcp |
| 11:18.43 | karmatronic | XSign: the command is good though |
| 11:19.01 | elementz | karmatronic look like it. thats what ppl on german forums post |
| 11:19.17 | elementz | karmatronic so, tunneling to the us is the only possibility |
| 11:19.20 | XSign | xand,i'm using vmware linux of back track |
| 11:19.29 | xand | what? |
| 11:19.48 | elementz | karmatronic prob is, where do i get a constant vpn connection, or a remote shell in the us i could use |
| 11:19.49 | XSign | xand,my linux is running under vmware |
| 11:19.53 | xand | XSign: so? |
| 11:20.07 | karmatronic | elementz: you need a server somewhere |
| 11:20.19 | Kevin` | elementz you pm me |
| 11:20.22 | Kevin` | ;p |
| 11:20.31 | karmatronic | elementz: either your home,a friend |
| 11:20.36 | XSign | xand,and i'm using BackTrack2 |
| 11:20.45 | xand | wtf is that? |
| 11:20.52 | XSign | xand,there is no dir of /etc/network/ |
| 11:21.00 | xand | it's not debian then |
| 11:21.09 | xand | go ask in the right channel |
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| 11:21.11 | Kevin` | not dcc chat please, my client doesn't like dcc much |
| 11:21.11 | XSign | xand,yeah not debian -_-! |
| 11:21.16 | karmatronic | elementz: it s an interesting problem |
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| 11:21.31 | xand | XSign: this channel is for help with debian only, not other distros. |
| 11:21.48 | antixogh | what disto is it? |
| 11:21.59 | antixogh | .. just wondering |
| 11:22.05 | xand | looks like some livecd |
| 11:22.12 | XSign | xand£¬¡£¡£¡£¡£¡£¡£¡£¡£¡£¡£ |
| 11:22.16 | xand | sorry? |
| 11:22.47 | antixogh | haha |
| 11:23.03 | karmatronic | elementz: i dont think there are some public VPN ,find yourself a US friend with some SSH or VPN server |
| 11:23.06 | XSign | xand£¬but could u tell me a command to set my gateway?i remembered a command like "ip route add default-network gw x.x.x.x dev eth0" |
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| 11:23.14 | XSign | xand,but it doesn't work ~! |
| 11:23.34 | karmatronic | elementz: could u give me again the web page of hulu to check their VN? |
| 11:23.36 | karmatronic | VPN? |
| 11:23.43 | xand | XSign: put the gateway in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:23.47 | xand | like I said. |
| 11:24.15 | xand | XSign: if you're not using debian, you need to ask in the channel for your distro |
| 11:24.45 | XSign | xand,does it work with a slax system ? |
| 11:24.52 | xand | what? |
| 11:25.01 | patrick-- | themill: thats what i get: syntax error at /var/lib/dpkg/info/inco-sudo.postinst line 28, near "open" |
| 11:25.12 | xand | XSign: I have no idea what "slax" is? |
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| 11:25.25 | XSign | xand,ok thanks :) |
| 11:25.28 | xand | XSign: for the last time... ask the channel for your distro |
| 11:25.30 | karmatronic | elementz: looks like Hot Spot Shield solve your issue |
| 11:25.39 | themill | patrick--: there's no way I can debug perl without seeing the entire script. Pastebin it and I'll try. |
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| 11:26.08 | XSign | xand,i know :) |
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| 11:30.14 | antixogh | I wanted to install gnome-dbg and it depends on libtotem-plparser1-dbg which depends on libtotem-plparser1 (= 2.16.5-3) which is a backport if I remember correctly |
| 11:30.43 | antixogh | synaptic tells me it can't be installed either way |
| 11:30.57 | RichiH | any suggestions on a ssh brute-force tool? and yes, this is for personal use, i forgot my router's root password. if you want to send suggestions per pm, that is fine, as well :) |
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| 11:31.50 | antixogh | can you not just reset your router? |
| 11:32.06 | karmatronic | RichiH: hydra |
| 11:32.20 | Guerin | RichiH: you should kick/ban yourself for trying to haxx0r |
| 11:32.50 | RichiH | antixogh: i could, but that would mean i would need to drive to my local ISP office to get the DSL auth stuff, again |
| 11:32.56 | RichiH | guess what i lost, as well :) |
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| 11:33.24 | RichiH | as it is not time critical, i don't mind hammering at the box for a week or two |
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| 11:33.38 | Guerin | while true; do ssh blah; done ;) |
| 11:33.39 | antixogh | RichiH: that's unfortunate |
| 11:33.43 | RichiH | karmatronic: will look at it, thanks :) |
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| 11:33.58 | karmatronic | RichiH: you ll need to compile it to use ssh though |
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| 11:34.05 | karmatronic | RichiH: but it s a damn cool tool |
| 11:34.05 | RichiH | Guerin: did i mention i would want to try _different_ passwords? ;) |
| 11:34.18 | cmihai | RichiH, unless your password is "aa" it may take a few million years :-) |
| 11:34.27 | themill | antixogh: there's no dep problems with gnome-dbg under etch. Try using aptitude rather than synaptic as it will give you better information about what and why. |
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| 11:34.41 | cmihai | RichiH, and SSH usually has a password timeout too :-) |
| 11:34.52 | cmihai | (and a max attempts) |
| 11:34.54 | antixogh | it's forth if for the experience |
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| 11:35.09 | RichiH | cmihai: if i ever have an actual _need_ to know, i will just fire up tftpd and reinstall the thing |
| 11:35.12 | XoX | does lvcreate in etch have no --mirror option? |
| 11:35.32 | cmihai | RichiH, you should. |
| 11:35.36 | RichiH | cmihai: so if the attempts fail, that is fine |
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| 11:35.56 | cmihai | RichiH, you may have more luck with a dictionary attempt, but like I said, brute force just doesn't work. |
| 11:36.01 | antixogh | =] |
| 11:36.01 | antixogh | brb |
| 11:36.45 | RichiH | cmihai: my passwords definately do not appear in any dict |
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| 11:37.09 | cmihai | RichiH, do you happen to remember the length? :-) |
| 11:37.18 | RichiH | cmihai: it is partially a 'hey, i never actually did this' fun type thing |
| 11:37.36 | RichiH | cmihai: i know when i installed the thing and the password length i used back then, yes |
| 11:37.46 | cmihai | So, how long is it? |
| 11:37.46 | RichiH | thankfully, it is an old pass ;) |
| 11:38.18 | RichiH | between 8 and 10 chars, including upper, lower case and digits |
| 11:38.36 | cmihai | Yep, impossible :-) |
| 11:38.52 | cmihai | Not to mention you'd fill all logs in the first few hours :P |
| 11:39.13 | cmihai | And _most_ sane systems have a "MaxAuthTries" |
| 11:39.21 | RichiH | cmihai: as i said, neither is it critical nor fully serious, so i don't mind failing :) |
| 11:39.44 | cmihai | Then knock yourself out. |
| 11:39.50 | karmatronic | cmihai: brute force tools include those things |
| 11:40.05 | karmatronic | cmihai: length of the password ,maxauth tries on ssh server... |
| 11:40.06 | cmihai | karmatronic, include what? |
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| 11:40.14 | cmihai | karmatronic, so? |
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| 11:40.30 | karmatronic | cmihai: so if he wants to give them a try , why not? |
| 11:40.38 | Kevin` | seems I managed to crash my irc client |
| 11:40.41 | cmihai | With a 10 char mixed case password it would take ages even if he had the has locally :-) |
| 11:40.49 | cmihai | hash |
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| 11:41.42 | karmatronic | cmihai: he might at least learn to use these tools |
| 11:42.36 | karmatronic | cmihai: and grab the knowledge for next time he has to use them in a more realistic situation .... |
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| 11:43.38 | _uplinkd_ | how do i get dvd movies to play? |
| 11:43.47 | cmihai | _uplinkd_, get VLC |
| 11:44.00 | _uplinkd_ | cmihai: thanks, won't work with totem? |
| 11:44.08 | rodietze | :( how come, my Debian thath always worked in every computer, just isn't working on my new laptop |
| 11:44.09 | cmihai | Nah, Totem is pure garbage :-) |
| 11:44.16 | cmihai | Besides, VLC properly supports menus and stuff too. |
| 11:44.18 | _uplinkd_ | lol, ok |
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| 11:44.35 | _uplinkd_ | can do, thanks ^^ |
| 11:44.47 | rodietze | Doesn't Debian work on HP Pavillion laptops? |
| 11:45.13 | rodietze | I mean X seems not to recognize my nvidia GeForce go 7150M |
| 11:45.45 | themill | !laptop |
| 11:45.45 | dpkg | i guess laptop is All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad> |
| 11:45.55 | azeem | rodietze: you mean nvidia failed to provide tech specs for your graphics chip to the Free Software community |
| 11:46.06 | themill | rodietze: ^^ looking on tuxmobil.org might give you some ideas |
| 11:46.20 | rodietze | thank you in advance guys |
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| 11:47.35 | themill | rodietze: also, /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 11:48.15 | rodietze | themill ok, thanks I'll try that out then |
| 11:49.20 | rodietze | nice bot |
| 11:49.42 | rodietze | dpkg is awesome hehe found all answers I thought would require loads of time |
| 11:50.04 | themill | dpkg: you're smart |
| 11:50.05 | dpkg | beyond your comprehension |
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| 11:50.10 | rodietze | lol |
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| 11:51.10 | rodietze | cool ;] ok I'm gonna follow the directions see you later if that works I'll report what I've done |
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| 11:55.25 | SamuraiDio | hi |
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| 11:57.07 | SamuraiDio | people, i finally found what to do to make my sata works... in busybox, after it fails to mount root, i need to run: 'rmmod ahci' 'rmmod ata_generic' 'modprobe ata_piix' (this one can be loaded from initramfs-tools/modules) 'udevtrigger' and 'exit' |
| 11:57.28 | SamuraiDio | after that the sata hs is detected, mounted and the system starts |
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| 11:57.43 | gamag | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=118987 |
| 11:57.51 | gamag | anyone knows solution to this problem. I am also having it. |
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| 11:58.11 | karmatronic | SamuraiDio: so you should quit ahci module from your initramfs... |
| 11:58.28 | SamuraiDio | karmatronic, i already did it |
| 11:59.41 | karmatronic | SamuraiDio: and blacklist it |
| 12:00.09 | SamuraiDio | karmatronic, that was i would ask how to |
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| 12:02.16 | SamuraiDio | gamag, is your /etc/resolv.conf correct? |
| 12:02.32 | gamag | SamuraiDio: yes |
| 12:02.41 | gamag | SamuraiDio: if it wasn't I wouldn't have been able to ping it also |
| 12:02.42 | karmatronic | SamuraiDio: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 12:02.47 | gamag | but I am able to ping it properly |
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| 12:03.51 | themill | gamag: is this a machine behind an adsl router? |
| 12:03.53 | SamuraiDio | karmatronic, thanx |
| 12:04.06 | gamag | themill: absolutely. how did you know? |
| 12:04.13 | themill | seen it before :) |
| 12:04.34 | themill | what do you have in your resolv.conf? just your adsl router acting as a dns proxy? |
| 12:04.35 | gamag | themill: strangely with ubuntu 7.04 or windows xp everything is fine |
| 12:04.44 | gamag | themill: exactly |
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| 12:05.01 | gamag | ubuntu 7.04 has a 2.6.20 kernel where as i am using 2.6.18 |
| 12:05.03 | gamag | is it a kernel problem? |
| 12:05.09 | karmatronic | SamuraiDio: still i dont get your problem |
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| 12:05.16 | gamag | should I upgrade my debian kernel to 2.6.20? |
| 12:05.31 | SamuraiDio | karmatronic, huh? |
| 12:05.37 | karmatronic | SamuraiDio: removing ahci from the initramfs shoud be enough |
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| 12:05.50 | themill | gamag: there are a few adsl modem/routers out there that claim to be able to do dns but end up returning 0.0.0.0 or something stupid for name lookups. |
| 12:05.58 | SamuraiDio | karmatronic, 455923 |
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| 12:06.02 | SamuraiDio | ops |
| 12:06.11 | gamag | themill: why does it work fine for ubuntu and windows xp then? |
| 12:06.21 | themill | gamag: If you put your ISPs nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf then the problem is solved. |
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| 12:07.31 | gamag | themill: but apparantlly the DHCP automatically puts my ISP name server automatically |
| 12:07.45 | gamag | themill: should I still manually type it and lock it so that DHCP can't change it? |
| 12:07.48 | themill | gamag: I'm not sure about that. I've seen it with ubuntu machines but on older versions of ubuntu. I imagine that if winxp gets an nslookup return of 0.0.0.0 it does a dummy spit and throws out the value and either tries again or uses a MS server. |
| 12:08.18 | gamag | themill: yeah probably. can't we force the linux kernel to try again if it gets such weird values? |
| 12:08.49 | themill | gamag: no idea. I've always done it by fixing up the resolv.conf to use the ISPs DNS server rather than the adsl modem. |
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| 12:09.38 | SamuraiDio | karmatronic, is updata-initramfs needed after place ahci on blacklist? |
| 12:10.17 | themill | gamag: But you need to do that in a clever way as your modem's dhcp server will overwrite whatever settings you stick in /etc/resolv.conf. /msg dpkg fixresolvconf |
| 12:10.26 | gamag | yes |
| 12:10.41 | themill | gamag: You might like to double check that this works before doing any of those things to make the fix permanent. |
| 12:10.52 | positron2007 | Hello! I was trying to install a lot of packages at once, and I get this for each one, WARNING: Following packages could not be authenticated, and, E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes, how can I authenticate them? |
| 12:11.08 | gamag | themill: i didn't quite get you. i should double check what? |
| 12:11.13 | gamag | and how can I make the fix permanent? |
| 12:12.17 | themill | gamag: First, try putting your ISPs nameserver into /etc/resolv.conf and see if that solves your problem. If that works, then "/msg dpkg fixresolvconf" on how to make that permanent so that the next dhcp lease doesn't wipe out your fix. |
| 12:12.32 | gamag | ok |
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| 12:15.07 | karmatronic | positron2007: apt-get install debian-archive-keyring |
| 12:15.19 | karmatronic | positron2007: apt-get update |
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| 12:16.11 | gamag | what is the +i attribute for in chattr? |
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| 12:16.33 | positron2007 | karmatronic, it says debian-archive-keyring is already the most current version |
| 12:16.53 | gamag | how can I know if I have ipv6 enabled and how can i disable it? |
| 12:16.59 | Kevin` | positron2007 check your date/time setting |
| 12:17.24 | positron2007 | date/time is correct |
| 12:17.29 | Kevin` | why would you want to disable ipv6 |
| 12:17.37 | themill | gamag: you can disable it in firefox by going to about:config and typing ipv6 in the search bar. That can also help solve the problem you describe. |
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| 12:18.09 | themill | Kevin`: some flaky adsl modems return dodgy dns lookups if there is ipv6 on their network. |
| 12:18.30 | Kevin` | someday you'll HAVE to use ipv6, might as well fix the problem :) |
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| 12:19.02 | jelly | Kevin`: some day NS lookups on AAAA records won't timeout |
| 12:19.04 | gamag | and how do I disable it for all other software |
| 12:19.06 | themill | Kevin`: at which time gamag might buy a new modem. |
| 12:19.44 | themill | Kevin`: hell is also likely to freeze over before ipv6 actually makes it to the consumer world. |
| 12:19.49 | Kevin` | jelly why not use the isp nameservers directly or set up a caching server in that case |
| 12:20.17 | gamag | how to disable ipv6 for all applications? isn't there a Linux wide setting that will just disable ipv6 all together on my system? |
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| 12:20.47 | Kevin` | themill bah, i'm going to force everyone on my network to use ipv6 only just for that :) |
| 12:21.16 | Kevin` | (mostly so I can learn it) |
| 12:21.33 | themill | gamag: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
| 12:21.54 | Kevin` | themill "server on fire" |
| 12:22.08 | jelly | Kevin`: why should I have to? |
| 12:22.26 | Kevin` | jelly have to what? |
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| 12:22.49 | Kevin` | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
| 12:22.52 | Kevin` | oops |
| 12:23.17 | jelly | Kevin`: have to do what you said in your previous line to me |
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| 12:24.03 | themill | jelly: I think that might have been directed to me |
| 12:24.11 | Kevin` | jelly well, ns lookups for AAAA records should not time out. if they do, something on your network isn't working properly, and I for one like to fix things like that |
| 12:24.38 | jelly | Kevin`: or, even when it resolves, I don't want my irc client to try to connect to an unroutable ipv6 address |
| 12:25.08 | Kevin` | jelly i've never seen a single program try if there wasn't a route |
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| 12:25.25 | Kevin` | jelly or: make it routable, easy to do :) |
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| 12:25.34 | gamag | an ipv4 is a lookup like A www.google.com right? |
| 12:25.40 | gamag | and for ipv6 is it AAAA www.google.com right? |
| 12:25.42 | Kevin` | gamag yeah |
| 12:25.51 | gamag | I think I saw lots of them in wireshark last night |
| 12:26.00 | gamag | and they returned 1.0.0.0 |
| 12:26.02 | themill | jelly: agreed... no point in causing trouble at the local end of things when you can't use it anyway |
| 12:26.20 | jelly | themill: tell that to default debian setup :-) |
| 12:26.29 | themill | :( |
| 12:27.12 | gamag | does changing resolv.conf require a reboot or networking restart? |
| 12:27.13 | jelly | themill: to make things more interesting, I work at my ISP. We had ipv6 brought to end users at one time just for fun. ;-) |
| 12:27.19 | milligan | Silly question. If a laptop is delivered with this as standard: 256-MB or 512-MB (333-MHz) DDR SDRAM (SODIMM in slot 1) .. will then this chip fit: 301466 Corsair Value DDR SO-DIMM PC3200 1024MB Unbuffered, Non-ECC, 128Megx64 (I know it will fit, but will it work?) |
| 12:27.36 | themill | gamag: not usually. |
| 12:27.37 | Kevin` | jelly kwzs.be/~kevin/ipv6.sh |
| 12:27.40 | DustyBin | milligan!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:27.55 | Kevin` | jelly if your not behind nat, that will work (change interface names) |
| 12:27.57 | milligan | DustyBin: hey old man :) |
| 12:28.01 | DustyBin | :D |
| 12:28.15 | DustyBin | milligan: get back into gentoo where you belong :P |
| 12:28.21 | jelly | Kevin`: um, I don't want it, but thanks |
| 12:28.26 | saintiss | is there a bugzilla website for debian? |
| 12:28.32 | milligan | DustyBin: hehe. Using both now :) Gentoo for servers, debian for desktop. |
| 12:28.39 | DustyBin | aye good idea |
| 12:28.51 | Kevin` | jelly well you said you couldn't use it for some reason if your isp doesn't support it. you can, for any ipv4 address, use ipv6 |
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| 12:29.09 | DustyBin | are there any other ways to find out what is using it? |
| 12:29.15 | DustyBin | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:54990 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN - |
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| 12:37.18 | jelly | Kevin`: no, I said I _won't_ use it until the ISP provides it by default. |
| 12:37.18 | Kevin` | hmm, SOMEONE said they couldn't, I thought it was you :) |
| 12:37.18 | Kevin` | oh, it was themill |
| 12:37.18 | positron2007 | Kevin`, I do apt-get update and it says Waiting for headers for a very long time |
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| 12:37.19 | Kevin` | positron2007 try accessing your mirror directly, if it doesn't work, try another |
| 12:37.37 | Kevin` | (with a web browser) |
| 12:37.37 | positron2007 | It works |
| 12:37.37 | positron2007 | Maybe they changed the path |
| 12:37.37 | positron2007 | Can you go there? |
| 12:37.38 | Kevin` | wonder what caused that ^ |
| 12:37.38 | Kevin` | Oh. |
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| 12:38.03 | positron2007 | Just in time to see it |
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| 12:38.28 | streuner | !netsplit |
| 12:38.28 | Kevin` | damn windows vista is slow |
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| 12:38.42 | streuner | dpkg> hmm... netsplit is A deliberate disconnection between (at least) two servers on one IRC network. Usually occurs when the output-queue for the link has filled up too much to make a timely (re)sync likely, so it's preferred to maintain sanity (and lag-freeness) for both parts of the network. Occurs anywhere where links between IRC-servers have too little bandwidth (available/allocated). |
| 12:38.42 | Kevin` | Ignoring JOINS from *!*@* - recommended |
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| 12:38.44 | streuner | Kevin`: time to use ntfsresize and install Debian ;-) |
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| 12:38.56 | liable | the netsplits seem to be rather large lately |
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| 12:38.57 | dpkg | hmm... netsplit is A deliberate disconnection between (at least) two servers on one IRC network. Usually occurs when the output-queue for the link has filled up too much to make a timely (re)sync likely, so it's preferred to maintain sanity (and lag-freeness) for both parts of the network. Occurs anywhere where links between IRC-servers have too little bandwidth (available/allocated). |
| 12:38.57 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
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| 12:38.57 | Kevin` | streuner I intentionally have it installed to learn it, unfortunately that would defeat the point :) |
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| 12:38.57 | positron2007 | Kevin`, Can you go to my mirror and tell me the right path for sources.list? |
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| 12:38.58 | Kevin` | positron2007 check it at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 12:38.59 | positron2007 | Kevin`, what is there I have it and it says Waiting for headers indefinitely |
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| 12:39.01 | netgear | http://pastebin.com/d69675b7a - can anyone help me with that? |
| 12:39.03 | RCOMALTA | for debian can i do mail server gnu |
| 12:39.34 | Kevin` | RCOMALTA gnu is an organization, not a mail server program.. what do you mean |
| 12:39.50 | cmihai | Kevin`, his English isn't very good. |
| 12:39.58 | RCOMALTA | i like to do mail server |
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| 12:40.07 | Kevin` | RCOMALTA my current favorite mailserver is exim, but any of them would work |
| 12:40.18 | cmihai | RCOMALTA, you can use Postfix, QMail, Exim or Sendmail. I suggest you use Postfix. |
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| 12:40.31 | RCOMALTA | are test or gui |
| 12:40.35 | milligan | DustyBin: check out the other chan |
| 12:40.36 | RCOMALTA | text or gui |
| 12:41.04 | Kevin` | RCOMALTA it's a mail server, not a mail client, it just sits there and handles mail |
| 12:41.16 | RCOMALTA | yes i know kebin |
| 12:41.18 | cmihai | RCOMALTA, all configuration is done in text mode. |
| 12:41.18 | RCOMALTA | kevin |
| 12:41.20 | Kevin` | no user interface while it's running, like most server |
| 12:41.25 | phogg | no mail servers have GUIs |
| 12:41.30 | RCOMALTA | ohhh |
| 12:42.04 | cmihai | phogg, actually, some have administrative consoles, I think he was asking for a mmc-like-thing. |
| 12:42.17 | phogg | some configuration GUIs do exist, yes |
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| 12:44.07 | happla | apt-cache search a-clue |
| 12:44.11 | happla | ups, wrong terminal |
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| 12:44.39 | harpal | If I have set ip to dhcp now how would I know that which Ip I got from server? |
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| 12:45.21 | karmatronic | harpal: ifconfig |
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| 12:46.28 | positron2007 | karmatronic, my apt-get update doesn't work, it says Waiting for headers indefinitely |
| 12:46.35 | positron2007 | I tried 2 mirrors |
| 12:47.15 | SamuraiDio | if i download and install: '# dpkg --force-architecture -i w32codecs.deb' on amd64, will it work? |
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| 12:47.34 | harpal | karmatronic, Is there any place where I can find out it. I want some file to read |
| 12:48.01 | liable | SamuraiDio: the package might install, but they wont work |
| 12:48.41 | SamuraiDio | liable, ok |
| 12:49.32 | karmatronic | positron2007: bandwidth problem? |
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| 12:49.41 | positron2007 | I got a message now |
| 12:49.55 | positron2007 | karmatronic, Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg |
| 12:50.11 | positron2007 | I think it's trying to fetch Release.gpg and doesn't find it |
| 12:50.15 | elmo40 | who uses security.debian.org anyways... |
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| 12:50.28 | positron2007 | elmo40, the same for the mirror |
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| 12:50.40 | karmatronic | positron2007: seems like have a misformed line in sources.list |
| 12:50.49 | elmo40 | ping something. is your internet ok? |
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| 12:52.05 | positron2007 | karmatronic, I pasted in pvt |
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| 12:53.06 | karmatronic | comment the security line |
| 12:53.14 | karmatronic | and run apt-get update again |
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| 12:53.54 | positron2007 | karmatronic, it's the same, it looks for that file too in the mirror |
| 12:53.55 | positron2007 | Err http://cesium.di.uminho.pt etch Release.gpg |
| 12:54.20 | speeves | positron2007: is there a proxy in front of your computer? |
| 12:54.24 | positron2007 | No |
| 12:54.33 | speeves | are you using synaptic or apt? |
| 12:54.35 | positron2007 | The connection is okay |
| 12:54.36 | positron2007 | apt |
| 12:55.02 | speeves | i have to set proxy settings for apt at work |
| 12:55.08 | speeves | using ENV variables |
| 12:55.14 | speeves | just a thought |
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| 12:55.35 | karmatronic | positron2007: you should |
| 12:56.08 | speeves | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.13 | karmatronic | positron2007: wget -q http://cesium.di.uminho.pt -O -| apt-key add - |
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| 12:56.47 | positron2007 | gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. |
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| 12:58.11 | pmo | http://pastebin.ca/815825... how do i know if the old root of this box has done what it takes? |
| 13:01.48 | elmo40 | pmo: what do you mean 'done what it takes' ? |
| 13:02.21 | garou | ...for LILO to load the new kernel. |
| 13:02.26 | pmo | to find out if the system has what it takes |
| 13:02.37 | pmo | yea garou |
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| 13:03.46 | elmo40 | i was thinking he meant that ;) Check the lilo.conf file. Isnt that all he has to do? Or does lilo require a script when you edit that file? |
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| 13:04.16 | pmo | im unsafe when it comes to lilo |
| 13:04.29 | liable | yes, you need to rerun lilo if you edit the file |
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| 13:05.03 | speeves | lilo? lilo!? ;) |
| 13:05.08 | speeves | just kidding |
| 13:05.15 | antixogh | is there an easy way to install all the dbg packages that are relivent to your system? |
| 13:05.30 | pmo | hehe freenode spams me with [freenode-connect VERSION] |
| 13:05.50 | antixogh | me too |
| 13:05.59 | antixogh | "(06:45:37 AM) freenode-connect: Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to antixogh) from freenode-connect" |
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| 13:08.10 | garou | "This is LILO!" "LILO!? THIS... IS... GRUB-LAND!" *ducks* |
| 13:08.11 | slept | is there an extra acpi channel or does acpi belong to kernel .... I get a trip point exceeded on both debian and ubuntu without any system load ... |
| 13:08.45 | liable | theres an acpi ML, dunno about channel |
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| 13:09.06 | phogg | garou: I find it very funny. |
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| 13:09.36 | pmo | hehe garou its not my system |
| 13:09.44 | garou | "We can't stop developing here. This is LILO country." |
| 13:09.55 | pmo | fscked up gateway |
| 13:09.57 | slept | liable, thanks |
| 13:10.13 | pmo | 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 13:10.15 | pmo | :o |
| 13:11.26 | antixogh | or a way to search packages that end with dbg and who's dependancys have already been met? |
| 13:11.26 | liable | that old and most likely has several exploits |
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| 13:11.50 | pmo | yea |
| 13:11.59 | pmo | and doesnt support connlimit |
| 13:12.13 | pmo | i need to upgrade the kernel |
| 13:12.23 | pmo | users are getting crazy on this network |
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| 13:13.59 | harpal | For making dhcp server what should I install? |
| 13:14.07 | liable | dhcpd |
| 13:14.13 | pmo | but yea you get smacked a old gateway in the head, and you dont know how it has been setup.. and what you feel most like, is reinstalling |
| 13:14.16 | harpal | dhcpd or dhcp3-server? |
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| 13:14.51 | liable | harpal: probably 3 i guess, dh3client is the better of the clients, i guess the same for server |
| 13:15.36 | harpal | Ok |
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| 13:18.37 | harpal | liable, If I have windows machine dhcp client than dhcp3-server is OK? |
| 13:19.06 | liable | harpal: eh? |
| 13:20.04 | harpal | means I have windows machine which request dhcp for dhcp server than Can I use dhcp3-server ? |
| 13:20.23 | speeves | harpal: yes |
| 13:20.31 | speeves | dhcp is not platform dependent |
| 13:20.33 | liable | makes no difference which os asks for it, its a protocol |
| 13:20.54 | harpal | okkk. |
| 13:21.06 | peter_ | Hm... my iceweasel slows down on few pages. The worst is when I scroll down. Someone had same problem? |
| 13:21.18 | patrick-- | anyone experienced with packing debian packages? |
| 13:21.32 | speeves | peter_: is this with standard browsing, or on certain sites? |
| 13:21.39 | speeves | patrick--: yes |
| 13:21.49 | patrick-- | may i pm? |
| 13:21.52 | patrick-- | bit complex :D |
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| 13:22.14 | liable | !pm |
| 13:22.14 | dpkg | somebody said pm was private message, or post meridiem, or prime minister, or perl mongers, or pathetic moron: when you see someone say pm, they're asking if you think that they're a pathetic moron, or something you don't do without asking permission, or provocative {preventative} maintenance, or percussive maintenance |
| 13:22.21 | peter_ | speeves, certain sites |
| 13:22.29 | speeves | patrick--: doing an imp, but will help as I can |
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| 13:22.41 | liable | peter_: there is #debian-mentors on oftc |
| 13:22.45 | speeves | peter_: it's probably slowing down as the page loads |
| 13:22.49 | liable | patrick--: ^^ |
| 13:22.59 | liable | patrick--: also a debian-mentors mailing list |
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| 13:23.31 | speeves | patrick--: i have joined debian-mentors |
| 13:23.34 | speeves | if you wish |
| 13:25.58 | pmo | seems like im close to have fixed this |
| 13:26.00 | vaq | Are there any way I can see which ram are in my server - Like if its REG ECC and which vendor it is and so on? |
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| 13:26.22 | perfector | vaq: thats a good question.. |
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| 13:26.32 | perfector | i would also like to know |
| 13:26.36 | vaq | :) |
| 13:26.37 | liable | vaq: dmidecode maybe |
| 13:28.10 | pmo | 110 image=/vmlinuz |
| 13:28.10 | pmo | 111 label=Linux |
| 13:28.10 | pmo | 112 read-only |
| 13:28.20 | pmo | i need to add kernel img to that right+ |
| 13:28.21 | pmo | ? |
| 13:28.40 | liable | vmlinuz is a kernel |
| 13:29.08 | pmo | yea |
| 13:29.20 | pmo | but right now it only ways vmlinuz |
| 13:29.40 | pmo | doesnt i have to be something like: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0-0.43.6 |
| 13:29.53 | pmo | then add: initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.0-0.43.6.img |
| 13:29.55 | pmo | right? |
| 13:30.01 | liable | pmo: and ls -l / says its a link to? |
| 13:30.06 | SamuraiDio | i just donwloaded some codecs for mplayer and place then on /usr/local/lib/codecs, i have /usr/local/lib at ld.do.conf. will mplayer use that codecs? |
| 13:31.32 | DustyBin | i have followed this debian sarge guide what makes NFS use fixed port numbers: http://wiki.debian.org/SecuringNFS however, NFS still uses 1 random tcp and udp port, rpcinfo -p shows this: tcp randomport nlockmgr udp randomport nlockmgr, how can i make nlockmgr use a fixed port on etch so i can create a firewall on my machine ? |
| 13:32.09 | pmo | shit... putty crashed, and the conf is in use :o |
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| 13:33.48 | pmo | np anyways hehe |
| 13:34.32 | pmo | well what this crap box says in lilo.conf is: |
| 13:34.32 | pmo | 110 image=/vmlinuz |
| 13:34.32 | pmo | 111 label=Linux |
| 13:34.32 | pmo | 112 read-only |
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| 13:34.39 | pmo | damn |
| 13:34.48 | pmo | 3 lines |
| 13:35.34 | SamuraiDio | pmo, i think if you digit to fast the bot may think you're pasting too |
| 13:35.48 | pmo | i pasted 3 lines |
| 13:36.04 | pmo | im just confused about the lilo.conf |
| 13:36.50 | pmo | the system has 'image=/vmlinuz' and boots up |
| 13:36.53 | jelly | SamuraiDio: ld.so.conf is not relevant for mplayer's codecs |
| 13:37.21 | pmo | but when i try to upgrade the kernel, it says that i need to add the img? :/ |
| 13:37.32 | peter_ | is there some really fast and light webbrowser? |
| 13:37.32 | SamuraiDio | jelly, so wher do i check/edit what is relevant? |
| 13:37.35 | pmo | kernel.img |
| 13:38.24 | SamuraiDio | peter_, links |
| 13:38.31 | jelly | SamuraiDio: well, it ought to be in the documentation. Or try searching for the correct path in the output of "strings `which mplayer`" |
| 13:38.44 | peter_ | SamuraiDio, yes, but X webbrowser |
| 13:38.45 | SamuraiDio | ok |
| 13:39.23 | SamuraiDio | peter_, ahh, maybe gnome epiphany, or opera, its fast, but not light |
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| 13:40.04 | SamuraiDio | peter_, opera does a fast navigation buy caching everything, but it runs out your memory |
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| 13:41.06 | peter_ | SamuraiDio, I dont understand "but it runs out your memory" - try write it more simple please :) |
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| 13:42.19 | eth01 | Opera last time I checked, had no memory leaks. |
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| 13:42.52 | SamuraiDio | peter_, it consumes to much memory for caching |
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| 13:42.59 | SamuraiDio | peter_, but have it a try |
| 13:43.08 | Dantix | hi #debian!!, my mail.log is grather as 123Mb, how can I force to "rotate" or to backup and create a new one? |
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| 13:43.32 | peter_ | the problem is that, when I run some webbrowser it lags my system... |
| 13:43.43 | peter_ | for example terminal is starting about 10 secounds |
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| 13:44.35 | SamuraiDio | peter_, you are probally being out of memory and using swap |
| 13:44.46 | SamuraiDio | how much memory do you have? |
| 13:44.59 | peter_ | 1Gb |
| 13:45.10 | peter_ | I have made swap partition 2,5Gb |
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| 13:47.07 | organ | /msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 13:52.22 | DustyBin | everytime i boot my machine, these are given random port numbers, how do you stop this happening in debian etch: |
| 13:52.25 | DustyBin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:52.32 | DustyBin | 100021 1 tcp 47949 nlockmgr |
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| 13:53.43 | harpal | i have installed dhcp server to one machine and I have vmware of Linux on windows machine. i have set dhcp in interfaces file. now when I restart networking on vmware machine I got error |
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| 13:54.32 | SamuraiDio | harpal, same iface of windows? |
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| 13:57.02 | harpal | SamuraiDio, If I request from windows machine than it assigns ip to that machine |
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| 13:57.31 | fasta | find . -regex '..\.dot' -print |
| 13:57.44 | fasta | Why doesn't this match 34.dot? |
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| 13:58.24 | J-roen | Hi. My umask is set to "u=rwx,g=rwx,o=" but when I create new files, they have permissions 660. How can I give them execution rights automatically? |
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| 13:58.44 | sine | hello. how can I tell to apt-get that I don't want to install dependencies? |
| 13:59.06 | azeem | sine: why not? |
| 13:59.16 | azeem | sine: they are called "dependencies" for a reason |
| 13:59.44 | harpal | SamuraiDio, I got http://pastebin.com/m681e9663 error |
| 13:59.49 | sine | I need to install svn tools without exim4. |
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| 14:00.33 | azeem | sine: you mean the subversion package? |
| 14:00.36 | azeem | or some other package? |
| 14:00.40 | sine | azeem: yes, subversion-tools |
| 14:00.43 | positron2007 | When I use apt-get I get, Waiting for headers, for a long time. What is wrong? |
| 14:00.57 | jochien1 | !ixp |
| 14:01.17 | azeem | sine: apt-cache show subversion-tools |
| 14:01.25 | azeem | sine: as you can see exim is not a dependency |
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| 14:01.30 | azeem | it's merely recommended |
| 14:02.02 | sine | azeem: ok, but I am using ubuntu :) |
| 14:02.37 | azeem | sine: then ask in #ubuntu |
| 14:02.57 | azeem | though I don't think exim is really a dependency there either |
| 14:03.20 | azeem | positron2007: the network might be down |
| 14:03.28 | azeem | positron2007: or the apt mirror |
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| 14:03.37 | azeem | positron2007: or your dns resolving |
| 14:03.52 | positron2007 | azeem, I can ping the mirror |
| 14:03.54 | bahadunn | I dont need dns |
| 14:03.57 | sine | azeem: my question was only how to ignore dependencies, if you was not able to answer me, I don't understand, why you didn't ignored me. |
| 14:03.57 | bahadunn | dns is for suckers |
| 14:04.07 | themill | azeem: subversion-tools recommends mail-transport-agent |
| 14:04.11 | azeem | sine: you cannot ignore depedencies |
| 14:04.22 | azeem | 14:57 < azeem> it's merely recommended |
| 14:04.28 | sine | ok, thanks. |
| 14:04.55 | themill | sine: but your machine will have an mta on it anyway |
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| 14:05.12 | themill | or does ub*ntu manage to run without an mta? |
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| 14:05.14 | azeem | sine: in almost 100% of the cases of your question, there is a different underlying problem to be solved |
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| 14:05.43 | positron2007 | azeem, can you help? What should I do? |
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| 14:06.38 | azeem | positron2007: do you ping it by IP address, or hostname? |
| 14:06.45 | positron2007 | hostname |
| 14:07.10 | azeem | positron2007: then I guess the mirror's web server is having issues, try another mirror |
| 14:07.12 | pmo | when i install the new kernel with apt-get.. do i even need to edit lilo.conf? |
| 14:07.42 | positron2007 | I tried 3 mirrors |
| 14:07.48 | positron2007 | And I get the same errors |
| 14:08.04 | liable | pmo: yes, and run lilo |
| 14:08.26 | liable | pmo: why dont you just install grub? |
| 14:08.30 | azeem | positron2007: do you have a http proxy? |
| 14:08.33 | positron2007 | No |
| 14:08.51 | J-roen | Hi. The permissions of the files of a large project I run should be 770 by default (execution rights are necessary). But when I do a SVN checkout, they all become 644. I understand umask can't set the default permissions to 770 because text files can have permissions 666 at most by default. chmod'ing the directory after the SVN checkout is not really an option, because this is really slow. How can I fix this? |
| 14:09.09 | pmo | liable im not alowed to do so |
| 14:09.39 | azeem | pmo: how did you manage to install the kernel then? |
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| 14:09.52 | azeem | positron2007: no idea then, sorry |
| 14:10.17 | themill | J-roen: look at the svn:executable property |
| 14:10.22 | pmo | i didnt install it yet azeem |
| 14:10.30 | liable | pmo: then i suggest you read up on lilo |
| 14:10.51 | J-roen | themill: Thanks! |
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| 14:11.48 | harpal | anyone know, If I do ifconfig than from where it takes data? |
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| 14:13.11 | g00se | I want to do: xtightvncviewer ubuntu:1 & but this causes problems, perhaps owing to the password. How can I log in and then run in the background? |
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| 14:18.56 | bahadunn | harpal: what do you mean? |
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| 14:20.41 | themill | harpal: do mean if you just run ifconfig without any arguments? |
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| 14:23.59 | antixogh | would a leading space cause a problem in my fstab? i.e. " proc /proc proc defaults 0 0" instead of "proc /proc proc defaults 0 0" |
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| 14:24.31 | azeem | antixogh: is this a theoretical question, or a bug report? |
| 14:25.29 | antixogh | azeem: a theoretical question, before I restart and it becomes a problem |
| 14:25.44 | azeem | why do you need to restart to test? |
| 14:26.02 | liable | why even ask, and just get rid of the space? |
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| 14:26.55 | antixogh | I put a cifs mount in my fstab and I want to make sure it working correctly |
| 14:27.05 | gordonjcp | antixogh: does it mount? |
| 14:27.08 | antixogh | but I take I don't need to reboot |
| 14:27.13 | azeem | eh |
| 14:27.14 | gordonjcp | nah |
| 14:27.23 | pmo | Installation successful. |
| 14:27.24 | pmo | pwn |
| 14:27.27 | gordonjcp | antixogh: you could unmount *specifically* that mount, then say "mount -a" |
| 14:27.32 | azeem | antixogh: a much more useful question would've been "do I need to reboot if i change fstab" |
| 14:28.00 | gordonjcp | azeem: or "how would I test that a mount point will mount automatically on boot" |
| 14:28.09 | gordonjcp | azeem: which is closer to how I understood the question ;-) |
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| 14:28.19 | antixogh | "//192.168.15.132/home /home/debstation cifs credentials=/root/.debstation.passwd 0 0" |
| 14:28.59 | antixogh | how would I test that? |
| 14:29.04 | abrotman | you were just told |
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| 14:29.53 | antixogh | so then mount will accept this syntax format |
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| 14:32.17 | antixogh | "mount - a //192.168.15.132/home /home/debstation cifs credentials=/root/.debstation.passwd" is not working |
| 14:32.28 | Daemon-- | anyone know about dell poweredge servers? |
| 14:32.34 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 14:32.41 | abrotman | Daemon--: what about them? |
| 14:32.53 | abrotman | antixogh: uhm .. you did it wrong |
| 14:32.59 | asg | Daemon--: lots of people do, can you be more specific |
| 14:33.11 | abrotman | i could give oyu some very colorful opinions of dell hardware :) |
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| 14:33.23 | Daemon-- | well im running 2x73gig sas drives in one and wondered if there's any reason i cant change these staight over to sata2 drives? are they the same connection? |
| 14:33.41 | antixogh | abrotman:I gathered that, care to share with the class? |
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| 14:33.54 | abrotman | small class ... |
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| 14:34.04 | abrotman | antixogh: did you already put that line in your /etc/fstab ? |
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| 14:34.13 | antixogh | yes |
| 14:34.22 | antixogh | I havn't saved it though |
| 14:34.22 | abrotman | is it currently mounted? |
| 14:34.26 | antixogh | no |
| 14:34.27 | abrotman | save the fstab |
| 14:34.41 | antixogh | saved |
| 14:34.42 | abrotman | then run mount -a |
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| 14:34.53 | abrotman | which is what they told you five minutes ago :) |
| 14:35.19 | abrotman | antixogh: then check to see if it has mounted correctly |
| 14:35.35 | antixogh | I didn't understand that they meant "mount -a" |
| 14:35.42 | antixogh | but thank you that work |
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| 14:35.44 | antixogh | ed |
| 14:35.47 | themill | antixogh: man mount |
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| 14:37.00 | Jordanna | if i was to lightly install debian without x etc, whats the lowest specs i could get it to run on? |
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| 14:37.43 | zinx | to run, or to install? (they're different.. the installer/package stuff takes more ram than a functional system) |
| 14:37.44 | Kevin` | Jordanna i386, 8mb ram with a swap file |
| 14:37.59 | Jordanna | 8mb ram :o |
| 14:38.01 | Jordanna | LOL |
| 14:38.03 | Nyle | no |
| 14:38.05 | abrotman | Jordanna: etch installer says it requires 486 with 48MB .. but you can run it on smaller |
| 14:38.06 | Kevin` | 32mb ram without a swap file |
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| 14:38.17 | Nyle | stop laughing |
| 14:38.20 | Kevin` | (might work on less) |
| 14:38.28 | Jordanna | ok |
| 14:38.35 | abrotman | Jordanna: i have it running on a machine with 36MB .. and i've seen it run on a machine with 24MB |
| 14:38.51 | eth01 | I've had debian running fine on 12MB of RAM |
| 14:39.00 | eth01 | with swap. |
| 14:39.01 | Jordanna | so how would i install it with as little as possible? |
| 14:39.15 | zinx | don't select anything you don't need |
| 14:39.16 | abrotman | Jordanna: how much do you have? |
| 14:39.20 | abrotman | eth01: which version? |
| 14:39.31 | eth01 | abrotman, woody |
| 14:39.37 | abrotman | right .. i'm talking about etch |
| 14:39.42 | abrotman | woody ran on 4MB IIRC |
| 14:39.53 | Jordanna | abrotman, i dont know get, im still deciding on what pc to run it on |
| 14:39.56 | abrotman | or maybe that was slink |
| 14:39.56 | eth01 | it'll probably run fine with etch too |
| 14:39.58 | Kevin` | Jordanna run the netinstall and only install the stuff that comes with the cd. BUT, if you have hard drive space, it's worth having the stuff from "standard system" |
| 14:40.02 | Nyle | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en |
| 14:40.03 | eth01 | !woody |
| 14:40.04 | dpkg | methinks woody is the codename of Debian 3.0, released on July 19, 2002. Ask me about "woody->sarge". Security support for woody was terminated on 2006-06-30. Woody was archived on 2007-01-10 but ISO-s are still available: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/3.0_r6/. Ask me about <archive>. |
| 14:40.09 | abrotman | yay .. useless |
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| 14:40.25 | abrotman | Jordanna: you have no idea on the specs at all ? |
| 14:40.27 | Jordanna | Kevin: i have the first dvd |
| 14:40.28 | zinx | yay for debian releases with no security updates |
| 14:40.29 | antixogh | the business card iso is the smallest in cd format I believe |
| 14:40.35 | Kevin` | I got linux 2.6.22.something to boot on 4mb ram, but it had problems loading init. probably would have worked if I made more of the kernel as modules (root was on nfs) |
| 14:40.41 | antixogh | iso format rather |
| 14:40.54 | Jordanna | abrotman: im first gonna install it in a vm to test if i can do what i want to :) |
| 14:41.00 | abrotman | ah .. good plan |
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| 14:41.12 | Kevin` | Jordanna then run it and select either standard system or nothing at that menu that gives you software sets |
| 14:41.21 | Nyle | dpkg mmhr is Meeting Minimum Hardware Requirments per Debian 4.0 i386 install guide <ig> at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en |
| 14:41.22 | dpkg | okay, Nyle |
| 14:41.29 | happla | why do you wanna run on crappy hardware? |
| 14:41.36 | happla | give me dual core, lots of ram |
| 14:41.38 | happla | =) =) |
| 14:41.48 | Nyle | !mmhr |
| 14:41.49 | dpkg | methinks mmhr is Meeting Minimum Hardware Requirments per Debian 4.0 i386 install guide <ig> at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en |
| 14:41.51 | Nyle | word |
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| 14:42.02 | Jordanna | lol |
| 14:42.33 | Nyle | I got a 3.5ghz core 2 and 2gibs of rams |
| 14:43.01 | happla | Nyle: nice =) |
| 14:43.02 | Jordanna | i was gonna try DSL, but its pretty useless, ill stick to debian :) |
| 14:43.17 | antixogh | I have no rams.. guy guy down the street does though ;) |
| 14:43.24 | antixogh | aguy* |
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| 14:43.30 | happla | Nyle: overlocking? |
| 14:43.36 | Nyle | massively |
| 14:43.40 | happla | christ... |
| 14:43.41 | Nyle | its E6300 |
| 14:43.47 | Nyle | at 3.5, go figure |
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| 14:43.50 | happla | oh |
| 14:43.58 | happla | I don't like overclocking =) |
| 14:44.04 | Nyle | I don't care |
| 14:44.08 | happla | Nyle: haha |
| 14:44.10 | Nyle | if I fry it, i'll buy another one |
| 14:44.14 | Nyle | its only 170$ |
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| 14:44.29 | Nyle | even if i kill my whole system, good |
| 14:44.35 | Nyle | rather good riddance |
| 14:44.35 | happla | I have a dual opteron 244 at 1,8G |
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| 14:44.42 | happla | 2G ram |
| 14:44.43 | Nyle | I need to get away from comptuers for a while |
| 14:45.08 | bahadunn | Nyle: go to mayaguana |
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| 14:45.21 | Nyle | first I'm gonna find some pepto |
| 14:45.25 | petemc | drink yourself into a stupor |
| 14:45.42 | Nyle | past 3 days I been waking up with massive heartburn, I dunno if this will continue. I better to get checked out |
| 14:45.46 | antixogh | I have a 1500+ that ran @ 1300ish and now i'm at 2400+ @ 2250ish |
| 14:45.57 | Nyle | petemc: my man. hey man, no man I don't drink man |
| 14:46.03 | petemc | ah right |
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| 14:46.25 | petemc | ive no more suggestions, in that case |
| 14:46.33 | petemc | as drinking is pretty much all i do, socially |
| 14:46.36 | bahadunn | Nyle: I use to have that problem |
| 14:46.38 | Nyle | i know i bought some pepto yesterday |
| 14:46.44 | Nyle | damit |
| 14:46.44 | abrotman | jelly: welcome to #debian |
| 14:46.49 | bahadunn | Nyle: but now I eat more vegetables and try to watch the calories |
| 14:46.52 | Nyle | bahadunn: oh man its horrible feeling in the morning |
| 14:46.59 | Nyle | bahadunn: I am getting really really fat too |
| 14:47.00 | bahadunn | Nyle: and it seems to have stopped the heartburn |
| 14:47.07 | jelly | petemc: his other nick provides more useful hints than drinking ;-) |
| 14:47.14 | bahadunn | Nyle: really? |
| 14:47.15 | Nyle | I got a big old fat jellyroll stomach hangin out |
| 14:47.17 | Nyle | yeh man |
| 14:47.21 | Nyle | I used to be 135lbs |
| 14:47.26 | Nyle | now I'm 155 lbs |
| 14:47.28 | bahadunn | Nyle: you serious? |
| 14:47.32 | Nyle | yeh man it sucks |
| 14:47.35 | Nyle | I got fat and sick |
| 14:47.36 | Nyle | :( |
| 14:47.53 | bahadunn | better go see a doctor |
| 14:47.58 | Nyle | 20 lbs of fat |
| 14:48.00 | Nyle | ugh |
| 14:48.13 | karmatronic | this one goes to the guy who was trying to access hulu from europe ...i found how ! |
| 14:48.16 | antixogh | I wish I at 155lbs |
| 14:48.21 | Nyle | karmatronic: hey buddy |
| 14:48.38 | karmatronic | Nyle hi |
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| 14:48.48 | Nyle | Kevin`: hi |
| 14:48.58 | Nyle | Kevin`: what was the lowest HW you've ever ran debian on |
| 14:49.15 | jelly | Nyle: had a server in the basement |
| 14:49.43 | Kevin` | Nyle recently, a router with 130mhz mips processor, 32mb ram. i've run it on less in the past but I forget what :) |
| 14:49.57 | Nyle | nice |
| 14:50.05 | Kevin` | (root was on an sd card directly attached to IO pins, for that setup) |
| 14:50.09 | asg | Nyle: I'm currently running etch on a NSLU2 (133mhz, 32mb ram, 2G usb stick for storage) |
| 14:50.14 | Nyle | I ran it on 166mhz p2 |
| 14:50.26 | Nyle | 32mb |
| 14:50.30 | happla | I ran on Pentium 100, with 32M |
| 14:50.38 | Nyle | nnslu kicks major booty |
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| 14:50.46 | Nyle | big fat round rotund bootty |
| 14:50.50 | jelly | so.... about that gfdl, huh? |
| 14:50.51 | Nyle | kicks it right in the middle |
| 14:50.52 | abrotman | 486 DX2/66 with 36MB |
| 14:50.57 | happla | abrotman: dx2 =) |
| 14:51.08 | abrotman | aptitude is *slow* on it |
| 14:51.09 | asg | abrotman: dx2/50 with 8M |
| 14:51.15 | abrotman | asg: running etch ? |
| 14:51.23 | Nyle | I wonder if it will run on my gameboy advance sp |
| 14:51.27 | Nyle | with some hw hacking |
| 14:51.30 | Kevin` | Oh. mine was running etch, btw |
| 14:51.41 | Kevin` | Nyle yeah, put in a new cpu/mainboard |
| 14:51.43 | Kevin` | :) |
| 14:51.43 | abrotman | and that 486 can start X :) |
| 14:51.46 | jelly | asg: 486sx/25 with 16MB, cca hamm/slink time! |
| 14:51.49 | happla | Fattest machine I have been running debian on - or - well, nto so fat - but expensive is a Sun Enterprise 250 |
| 14:51.49 | Nyle | its got an ARM cpu |
| 14:51.53 | Nyle | I dunno how much ram |
| 14:51.59 | Nyle | the cpu is ok though |
| 14:51.59 | eth01 | yeah, i have an ARM for my NAS |
| 14:52.04 | karmatronic | this hotspot field is cool stuff |
| 14:52.06 | Nyle | I have two arms on my body |
| 14:52.06 | Kevin` | Nyle does the arm cpu support memory mapping |
| 14:52.08 | Nyle | yay |
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| 14:52.14 | Nyle | Kevin`: nope |
| 14:52.17 | eth01 | which actually runs netbsd =p |
| 14:52.18 | Nyle | no mm |
| 14:52.28 | Nyle | so it needs to run a kernel without mm |
| 14:52.28 | Kevin` | Nyle uclinux then. dunno if debian can run on that |
| 14:52.31 | Nyle | yup |
| 14:52.37 | Nyle | i'm still trying to find out |
| 14:53.01 | asg | jelly: was that a laptop? We did manage to get slack running on a 486sx/33 with 4M |
| 14:53.02 | jelly | happla: well, an E250 is not really expensive these days |
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| 14:53.18 | jelly | asg: nope, a DEC pizzabox desktop it was. |
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| 14:53.23 | happla | jelly: I was then |
| 14:53.24 | asg | jelly: ah |
| 14:54.43 | Nyle | oh its in my jacket pocket |
| 14:54.46 | Nyle | aha yes |
| 14:55.48 | jelly | asg: I think those machines were used as ssh terminals w/ remote boot until 2004-5. Replaced with much faster P133/32 terminals ;-) |
| 14:56.16 | eth01 | update today for tzdata? :P |
| 14:56.22 | eth01 | !tzdata |
| 14:56.44 | Nyle | pepto m |
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| 14:57.06 | roaet | 'ello. |
| 14:57.12 | Nyle | jelly: I setup that stuff in my parents house |
| 14:57.19 | roaet | I'm trying to configure snort and ./configure returns: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 14:57.23 | roaet | I'm not sure what -- that means. |
| 14:57.38 | Nyle | server serves up an X desktop over xdmcp and got diskless clients in each room |
| 14:57.58 | jelly | yay for xdmcp! |
| 14:58.33 | asg | roaet: /msg dpkg be |
| 14:58.41 | asg | bugger |
| 14:58.45 | asg | roaet: install build-essential |
| 14:59.11 | roaet | that is strange |
| 14:59.14 | asg | !qotd49 |
| 14:59.14 | dpkg | <tcsetattr> build-essential contains all of the ... um ... essential stuff. For building. |
| 14:59.15 | roaet | I've compiled programs before |
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| 15:00.30 | azeem | roaet: what does dpkg -l gcc | tail -1 say? |
| 15:00.35 | roaet | gcc -v returns gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) |
| 15:00.46 | azeem | roaet: and dpkg -l libc6-dev | tail -1 ? |
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| 15:01.01 | roaet | err |
| 15:01.30 | roaet | http://rafb.net/p/KrVHni50.html |
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| 15:01.46 | azeem | roaet: I said | tail -1 |
| 15:01.55 | roaet | oh |
| 15:01.57 | roaet | -1 |
| 15:01.57 | azeem | anyway, the libc6-dev version is more interesting |
| 15:01.59 | roaet | sorry lol |
| 15:02.12 | roaet | ii gcc 4.1.1-15 The GNU C compiler |
| 15:02.22 | azeem | 15:57 < azeem> anyway, the libc6-dev version is more interesting |
| 15:02.56 | roaet | ii libc6-dev 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files |
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| 15:03.03 | azeem | ok |
| 15:03.04 | aksn | hi all |
| 15:03.16 | azeem | roaet: then inspect config.log for the actual error output |
| 15:03.23 | aksn | where should i submit a bug in sylpheed in debian? thanks |
| 15:03.25 | prakti | I'm having this weird error when trying to connect amavis-new to clamav-daemon, where amavis complains it can't connect to clamav's socket in /var/run/clamav |
| 15:03.30 | roaet | it appears that gcc wasn't fully installed |
| 15:03.31 | azeem | !reportbug |
| 15:03.31 | dpkg | well, reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 15:03.36 | azeem | aksn: ^^ |
| 15:03.47 | prakti | amavis is a member of the clamav group |
| 15:04.21 | prakti | and I did a chown -R clamav:amavis and a chmod -R 775 on the /var/run/clamav directory. |
| 15:04.29 | prakti | but amavis keeps komplaining. |
| 15:04.35 | prakti | It's really weird. |
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| 15:06.40 | jolt^d4 | prakti: Does the clamav socket live in that dir then? Double checked? |
| 15:06.50 | aksn | azeem, thanks! |
| 15:07.17 | prakti | jolt^d4, triple-checked it. |
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| 15:07.29 | prakti | I'm way beyond any hints from the web. |
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| 15:08.04 | prakti | It must by either some _really_stupid_ bogus I overlooked |
| 15:08.49 | prakti | The most weird thing is, that amavis switched to this behaviour out of thin vapour. |
| 15:09.02 | antixogh | virualbox is giving me a few problems http://pastebin.com/d2620268c which I assume to be a bug |
| 15:09.27 | prakti | But since 48 hours I did not get any mail, so I took a look. |
| 15:09.40 | prakti | And since I'm quite stuck with this problem. |
| 15:09.45 | jolt^d4 | prakti: Does amavis run under a different group/user? |
| 15:09.50 | karmatronic | where could i see the user/password used with openvpn on client side? |
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| 15:10.03 | jolt^d4 | prakti: restarted clamav |
| 15:10.12 | sn0 | antixogh check http://debaday.debian.net/2007/12/05/virtualbox-a-virtual-pc-for-you/ , which has the post install instructions |
| 15:10.14 | jolt^d4 | prakti: Could be some update that should restart clamav that failed? |
| 15:10.40 | antixogh | sn0: thank you |
| 15:10.43 | sn0 | np |
| 15:10.53 | prakti | jolt^d4, no update was issued at that time,.. I'm the only admin, I certainly would know. |
| 15:11.18 | prakti | I'm already suspecting clamav to be nasty but it's debug-mode is not very verbose. |
| 15:11.35 | prakti | Or I don't know where to look during debug mode,... |
| 15:11.50 | prakti | but the clamav-logfiles are not very informative. |
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| 15:12.33 | gamag | how can I disable ipv6 on my debian? my ISP dns server is unable to reply properly to DNS AAAA type queries. |
| 15:12.39 | prakti | We need to clear if only the connectiion amavis<->clamav is broken or the if clamav is doing something stupid and rejects amavis because its confused. |
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| 15:13.04 | jolt^d4 | prakti: Ok, so you don't run clamav-update thingie in cron? I thought that was default for clamav (but it was a while since i ran it) |
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| 15:13.14 | sn0 | gamag there are a few methods really, but google first hit shows them :) |
| 15:13.15 | prakti | jolt^d4, I'm running freshclam |
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| 15:13.33 | prakti | Should do quite the same should it? |
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| 15:14.02 | jolt^d4 | gamag: google for "disable ipv6 modules" |
| 15:14.16 | jolt^d4 | prakti: No idea, I'm just guessing |
| 15:14.20 | happla | jolt^d4: ^5 |
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| 15:14.51 | prakti | I did a apt-get install --reinstall on all clamav things I use, in case some file got corrupted on my disk. |
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| 15:15.02 | prakti | I'm going to try a purge and reinstall. |
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| 15:15.21 | themill | gamag: Did the article on debian-adminstration.org not help? |
| 15:16.00 | gamag | themill that site has no useful content. seems like the site has been sold out or something |
| 15:16.06 | lolwhut | how do i prevent etch from loading network kernel modules at boot time on sparc? |
| 15:16.13 | themill | bollocks |
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| 15:16.15 | jolt^d4 | gamag: Then I google for you: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/01/disable-ipv6-module-on-default-kernels/ |
| 15:16.19 | lolwhut | adding them to the modprobe blacklist doesnt seem to work |
| 15:16.28 | gamag | chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf -> chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf |
| 15:16.34 | gamag | why this error? |
| 15:17.02 | sn0 | gamag again the first hit on google has information |
| 15:17.08 | jolt^d4 | Why do you want to use chattr on it? |
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| 15:17.25 | gamag | jolt^d4 to manually set the ISP DNS and not let DHCP change it |
| 15:17.38 | themill | gamag: the article that I pasted in earlier was this one: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
| 15:17.51 | gamag | jolt^d4 I am just trying every possible thing to get the whole system working without ipv6 |
| 15:17.54 | jolt^d4 | gamag: The correct solution would probably be to edit the $dhcpclient config, but ok |
| 15:18.05 | themill | gamag: debian-administration.org is an excellent site. It's not sold out at all. |
| 15:18.06 | jolt^d4 | gamag: use the link I provided and reboot |
| 15:18.42 | gamag | themill I did that thing in articles/409 but didn't help |
| 15:18.56 | gamag | themill i didn't add the KDE_NO_IPV6 though since I am using Gnome |
| 15:18.58 | gamag | i hope that is fine |
| 15:19.07 | DustyBin | why havent key logger protected password auths been enforced over the years? no matter how strong ones password is, it wont defeat keylogger mechanisms, entering random parts of your password would stop keyloggers? |
| 15:19.59 | gamag | jolt^d4 yes i have already done the thing mentioned in your link and i rebooted. but with wireshark i see, things like bitchx, pidgin still sends DNS AAAA irc.freenode.net type queries |
| 15:21.00 | Jordanna | omg |
| 15:21.08 | Jordanna | i installed debian |
| 15:21.20 | Jordanna | and it wont accept my root pass |
| 15:21.22 | antixogh | this is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/d42982520 I seem be be running itno a lot of dependancy issues, is there anything wrong with the contents? |
| 15:21.29 | Jordanna | so im gonna have to start again |
| 15:21.30 | Jordanna | :( |
| 15:21.31 | gamag | with lsmod can I check whether the ipv6 module is loaded or not? |
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| 15:21.50 | gamag | Jordanna can't you simply boot with a live CD and remove the password in /etc/passwd |
| 15:21.52 | themill | !tell Jordanna about ifrp |
| 15:21.56 | sn0 | antixogh for virtualbox? virtualbox.org has repository lines you can add, but non-free and contrib are needed occasionally too |
| 15:22.07 | dureyes | has anyone installed debian 4.0 on a eee pc with everything working? |
| 15:22.15 | sn0 | Debian-based Linux distributions: Add one of the following lines according to your distribution to your /etc/apt/sources.list: |
| 15:22.54 | sn0 | it seems virtualbox-ose is in etch-backports as well as lenny now, nice |
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| 15:22.56 | gamag | themill why is it called ifrp? |
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| 15:23.20 | themill | gamag: because it's easier to type than "i forgot root's password" |
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| 15:23.43 | Jordanna | lol |
| 15:23.45 | Jordanna | ty |
| 15:23.46 | antixogh | sn0: "E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate" is the current issue |
| 15:23.47 | abrotman | antixogh: yes there's something wrong .. you're mixing .. if you don't know what you're doing .. don't do that |
| 15:24.07 | lolwhut | i'm trying to kill off the dmfe kernel module on sparc |
| 15:24.08 | jolt^d4 | gamag: Ok, well, is the module loaded now? |
| 15:24.18 | lolwhut | and even deleteing dmfe.ko doesnt make it go away |
| 15:24.23 | abrotman | antixogh: you're also running unstable .. which is seemingly a bad idea |
| 15:24.24 | sn0 | antixogh try aptitude update first |
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| 15:24.29 | gamag | jolt^d4 how do I test whether the module is loaded or not? |
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| 15:24.37 | sn0 | oh sid |
| 15:24.42 | gamag | jolt^d4 lsmod | grep what? |
| 15:24.48 | lolwhut | and to boot, modprobe -r dmfe causes kernel ooops |
| 15:24.50 | antixogh | abrotman: what am I mixing? |
| 15:24.54 | jolt^d4 | gamag: I guess try grep -i ipv6? |
| 15:25.02 | jolt^d4 | gamag: I don't know the name of it from the top of my head |
| 15:25.05 | abrotman | should be pretty damn obvious |
| 15:25.13 | sn0 | running sid is not recommended unless you know the package manager pretty well antixogh , just fyi |
| 15:25.23 | guiss | hi guys, I am trying to reinstall everything on a rootfs that crashed. apt says it can't find a suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version, but I have reinstalled initramfs initrd and yaird |
| 15:25.27 | guiss | any tip? |
| 15:25.47 | prakti | jolt^d4, One thing I'm just stumbled over is: I have clamscan configured as a backup, if clamd is not responding, but even this does not work |
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| 15:26.07 | abrotman | antixogh: you're running unstable .. not everything in unstable is installable all the time |
| 15:26.07 | prakti | Could it be a problem of amavis to return the mails into postfix for delivery? |
| 15:26.26 | jolt^d4 | prakti: enable lots of logging on postfix and amavis and check there? |
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| 15:28.30 | antixogh | http://security.debian.org/dists/ does not have an unstable section that I can see so of the choices of stable, etch, lenny, and testing I thought testing to be what I needed, so I should be using lenny? |
| 15:28.41 | antixogh | or did I miss the point? |
| 15:29.00 | biopyte | hi. how do i get the degree sign like in "37 degrees Celsius" on a US keyboard? |
| 15:29.07 | prakti | jolt^d4, Would be my next step. |
| 15:29.25 | prakti | jolt^d4, I'm just looking if those clamscan-processes _ever_ terminate. |
| 15:29.33 | abrotman | antixogh: you should not be running unstable |
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| 15:29.51 | Jordanna | press 'e' to edit the kernel setting (add init=/bin/sh to the end of it), 'b' to boot. |
| 15:29.54 | Kevin` | antixogh your probably missing the point. right now stable=etch, testing=lenny |
| 15:29.56 | Jordanna | i cant get that to work |
| 15:29.57 | Jordanna | :/ |
| 15:30.35 | biopyte | what program to use to display graphically the current keyboard layout? |
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| 15:30.36 | happla | antixogh: Security patches goes straight into unstable, hence you dont need a security repo for unstable |
| 15:31.06 | antixogh | happla: alright, thank you |
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| 15:31.23 | happla | antixogh: afaik it says on www.debian.org |
| 15:31.28 | crumblenaut | how can i set a user's disk quota to a hard limit of 50mb on the commandline without using edquota? |
| 15:31.36 | abrotman | dunno about "straight in" .. they get there when they get there |
| 15:31.38 | DustyBin | did you know there has only been 14 linux viruses since linux began ? |
| 15:31.45 | crumblenaut | i know i can use another user as a template, but this doesn't help when i need to set multiple quotas of differing sizes from a script |
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| 15:34.28 | antixogh | i'm sorry I seem like i'm really lost, I had been doing fine of unstable for about 6 months but I just recently built a better computer out of my old computers, and reinstalled debian. I didn't have a lot of these issues before. I thank you all for your time. |
| 15:34.52 | abrotman | luck ran out |
| 15:35.42 | NickBurnsSNL | Greetings and salutations .. to all ... |
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| 15:36.33 | abrotman | !tell gamag about root |
| 15:36.43 | streuner | gamag: log out and back in as "user", otherwise you arent able to talk here... |
| 15:37.23 | prakti | jolt^d4, maybe libclamav2 got corrupted and caused clamav to misbehave,... I |
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| 15:37.45 | prakti | I've purged clamav completely and I'm trying a fresh install of it now. |
| 15:37.50 | NickBurnsSNL | Not to start the 'flame-thrower' , but what is the lightest window manager that everyone seems to be using ?? (not counting the big 2 of course ..) |
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| 15:37.59 | abrotman | NickBurnsSNL: ratpoison |
| 15:38.11 | azeem | NickBurnsSNL: what do you mean with everyone? |
| 15:38.29 | NickBurnsSNL | well, sorry, I just meant that a lot of others, that may be using |
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| 15:38.50 | asg | NickBurnsSNL: fluxbox |
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| 15:39.02 | artagnon | What is the basis for lspci labelling a certain device "Unknown device"? I have the driver for the device and it works perfectly |
| 15:39.03 | abrotman | !whichwm |
| 15:39.04 | dpkg | If your looking to decide which window manager you would like to use, stop by http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ |
| 15:39.10 | NickBurnsSNL | sorry to not be clear. I've used either gnome or kde so much, I wondered what the good alternativs are - that people are _really_ using |
| 15:39.13 | abrotman | artagnon: update-pciids |
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| 15:39.57 | NickBurnsSNL | cool ... I will check that. Box I am building will be used 'kiosk-like' so, that's why I am asking |
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| 15:40.01 | artagnon | abrotman: nice, thanks |
| 15:40.20 | themill | !tell gamag about root |
| 15:40.28 | abrotman | artagnon: also see update-usbids |
| 15:40.35 | jolt^d4 | prakti: Yes, I think it can have something to do with clamav |
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| 15:41.02 | artagnon | abrotman: ok |
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| 15:42.55 | gamag | hi |
| 15:43.00 | Jordanna | how do you setup ip config from console? |
| 15:43.02 | gamag | test |
| 15:43.06 | darrh00 | /J ubuntu-cn |
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| 15:43.21 | gamag | tet |
| 15:43.34 | gamag | I am gamag |
| 15:43.46 | gamag | does any one have answer to my ipv6 problem? |
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| 15:44.37 | infinity0 | is there a command that does search-and-replace in a set of files? like grep, but with replacement? |
| 15:44.48 | asg | infinity0: sed |
| 15:45.04 | infinity0 | right i'll try that thanks |
| 15:45.20 | streuner | asg: hiya |
| 15:45.25 | asg | streuner: hiya |
| 15:45.31 | jolt^d4 | Jordanna: edit /etc/network/interfaces or man ifconfig |
| 15:45.41 | abrotman | streuner: you never greet me .. you just don't love me anymore! |
| 15:45.53 | Jordanna | kk ty |
| 15:46.06 | themill | !tell gamag about blacklist |
| 15:46.11 | streuner | wb(r) abrotman, did you forget that? |
| 15:46.22 | abrotman | hehe |
| 15:46.26 | crumblenaut | how can i set a user's disk quota to a hard limit of 50mb on the commandline without using edquota? |
| 15:46.28 | crumblenaut | i know i can use another user as a template, but this doesn't help when i need to set multiple quotas of differing sizes from a script |
| 15:46.32 | streuner | and last not least asg is very rare these days... |
| 15:46.40 | themill | gamag: seriously, just blacklist the appropriate modules as per the d-a article |
| 15:46.48 | asg | streuner: I'm around, just busy |
| 15:47.00 | abrotman | streuner: he has a life! |
| 15:47.05 | antixogh | I figured out was cosing some of my problems, in synaptic my preferred version was set to testing |
| 15:47.11 | asg | danke |
| 15:47.14 | abrotman | :) |
| 15:47.17 | streuner | sadly, but look what he said... |
| 15:47.52 | streuner | that sounds rather to me, work, work and work... |
| 15:47.57 | prakti | jolt^d4, hmm,... /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl is missing, and clamd is eating 99% CPU,... how is this socket created? |
| 15:48.09 | asg | streuner: but I'm on holiday starting in a few hours so I'll have some time to hang out |
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| 15:50.02 | am0ns3t | hello. how to disable password request on booting debian for encrypted partition? |
| 15:50.16 | happla | don't use a encrypted partition |
| 15:50.23 | cmihai | am0ns3t, that's... pointless. |
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| 15:50.47 | abrotman | unless you reomve the harddrive |
| 15:50.48 | Kevin` | am0ns3t how do you plan to use encryption to any effect if you don't require a key? |
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| 15:51.02 | darrh00 | how to encrypt partition |
| 15:51.14 | abrotman | darrh00: in which OS? |
| 15:51.27 | am0ns3t | cmihai: the thing that machine now used as server... so its not good if systems go down it wont start self |
| 15:51.40 | cmihai | am0ns3t, then don't use full disk encryption. |
| 15:51.51 | am0ns3t | how to do that? |
| 15:51.57 | cmihai | am0ns3t, if you want to "decrypt" it you'll probably need to do a backup, format and restore... |
| 15:52.05 | tdn | tralala, ok. |
| 15:52.14 | darrh00 | abrotman:debian |
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| 15:52.26 | null__ | Hello, I want to know if is possible to fix this issue with SPF, my SPF works but not for google. I use google apps as mx service but lot of mails are sended using another server that do relay of my domain, but google/gmails tells that -> Received-SPF: softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning etc, how can I fix that? can I fix it? thanks |
| 15:52.27 | jolt^d4 | prakti: No idea. Check the init script and kill -9 the process |
| 15:52.41 | Kevin` | it should be possible to put the encryption key in wherever it's asking for it. negating any security benefit of coure |
| 15:52.48 | abrotman | darrh00: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 15:53.16 | biopyte | how can i simulate 'Alt Gr' on a US keyboard so I have direct access to many symbols? |
| 15:53.18 | themill | null__: Are these emails that are are going through an alias or .forward before going to google? |
| 15:53.46 | null__ | themill: nope, are sended using my other isp |
| 15:53.48 | tdn | I have a tar file with a lot of files with absolute paths (starting with /). How can I extract this archive to another destination than current working dir? Say the tar file is /a/x.tar and I want to extract it so that all files go into into /b. |
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| 15:54.47 | themill | null__: ahh... so you need to include the other isp in your SPF description |
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| 15:55.22 | Jordanna | can anyone help me with making a line for sources.list |
| 15:55.24 | tdn | I am not sure wheter this is what the -C switch does. |
| 15:55.34 | Jordanna | i wanna use this mirror debian.mirror.ac.za |
| 15:55.42 | turneralex_ | Heyy, I'm trying to install Debian on my machine, and after I install; when I boot for the first time it hangs on |
| 15:55.51 | turneralex_ | 'Begin: Waiting for root file system... |
| 15:56.08 | turneralex_ | Wait |
| 15:56.10 | turneralex_ | I take that back |
| 15:56.20 | themill | !waiting for the root filesystem |
| 15:56.20 | dpkg | If you've recently upgraded your kernel and your system hangs at "waiting for the root filesystem", this may be from the libata transition. /dev/hd? disks might now be known as /dev/sd?. At the grub menu, press e to edit the entry, change the ROOT= part, then press b to boot. You need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and perhaps also your /etc/fstab. Also ask me about <can't mount root> |
| 15:56.21 | turneralex_ | No i'm getting a worse error. |
| 15:56.49 | themill | tdn: it is. Try it out :) |
| 15:56.58 | turneralex_ | and now it says '/bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off |
| 15:57.05 | turneralex_ | (initramfs) |
| 15:57.11 | tdn | themill, ok. But will this also work, if the files in the archive starts with "/"? |
| 15:57.43 | tdn | themill, there is a whole system file system in this archive, so if I extract it to these paths, it will break my running system. |
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| 15:57.58 | Jordanna | anyone ? :/ |
| 15:58.18 | jolt^d4 | Jordanna: Look in /etc/apt |
| 15:58.42 | Jordanna | no, i need help with the line to add |
| 15:58.45 | themill | tdn: normally, / is stripped off the files before putting them into the archive. |
| 15:58.46 | Jordanna | i cant get it right |
| 15:58.56 | turneralex_ | Hello? |
| 16:00.03 | tdn | themill, yes, I know. But they're not stripped in this archive. That's the problem. |
| 16:00.19 | tdn | themill, also, there are a lot of non-regular files in it, like device nodes and stuff. |
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| 16:00.58 | jolt^d4 | Jordanna: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html |
| 16:01.09 | biopyte | how do i change (postinstall) my keyboard from "us" to "us-international"? |
| 16:01.26 | biopyte | xorg.conf? |
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| 16:02.26 | streuner | !drxx biopyte |
| 16:02.26 | dpkg | biopyte: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
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| 16:03.04 | Jordanna | !aptitude tags |
| 16:03.07 | Jordanna | :( |
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| 16:04.21 | anapivirtua__ | Hi world o/ |
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| 16:04.30 | biopyte | ok. i think its 'XkbVariant altgr-intl' |
| 16:05.33 | RCOMALTA | any one here is server adminstrator |
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| 16:05.57 | Kevin` | RCOMALTA sure |
| 16:06.00 | Ronin | RCOMALTA: many are |
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| 16:06.02 | Ronin | many arent |
| 16:06.05 | RCOMALTA | hi kevin |
| 16:06.19 | RCOMALTA | to make debian host my personly web site what i need t do |
| 16:06.33 | Kevin` | apt-get install apache2, put stuff in /var/www |
| 16:06.42 | eth01 | #apache |
| 16:06.44 | eth01 | virtualhost |
| 16:06.46 | RCOMALTA | i see |
| 16:06.51 | RCOMALTA | ok |
| 16:06.51 | Jordanna | RCOMALTA: you dont need a server admin to help you with that |
| 16:07.00 | RCOMALTA | :) |
| 16:07.02 | RCOMALTA | sory |
| 16:07.05 | Jordanna | !tell RCOMALTA about apache2 |
| 16:07.09 | Ronin | assuming you can do that without breaking your tos with your isp RCOMALTA |
| 16:07.29 | RCOMALTA | no no |
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| 16:07.36 | RCOMALTA | i am buness |
| 16:07.41 | RCOMALTA | conasion with my isp |
| 16:07.44 | RCOMALTA | can i do what i like |
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| 16:08.00 | Kevin` | if I understand you properly, yes |
| 16:08.07 | RCOMALTA | kevin |
| 16:08.25 | RCOMALTA | for mail server |
| 16:08.37 | RCOMALTA | only with text you told right |
| 16:08.39 | RCOMALTA | to setup |
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| 16:09.11 | Kevin` | there may be a gui setup, as some people said, but it's more common to use text |
| 16:09.20 | RCOMALTA | i see |
| 16:09.29 | RCOMALTA | ok |
| 16:09.31 | NiLon | is there way to install .deb so that it installs dependencys also? |
| 16:09.50 | Ronin | NiLon: of course, aptitude install foo |
| 16:10.08 | Ronin | NiLon: or is this a .deb you have locally? |
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| 16:10.19 | NiLon | yeah I got it as file |
| 16:10.34 | Ronin | NiLon: is it not in a repo ? |
| 16:10.46 | NiLon | it's not, I downloaded it from site |
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| 16:11.53 | Hoxzer | NiLon: Gdebi can do that but it's graphical |
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| 16:12.28 | SamuraiDio | i downloaded some extra codecs from mplayer website, can i use it with other players to? |
| 16:12.28 | NiLon | well I just then grep and make list, there's just so much :P |
| 16:12.28 | jelly | NiLon: after dpkg -i fails, do an "aptitude -f install" or "apt-get -f install" |
| 16:12.33 | SamuraiDio | i would only allow totem to make thumbnails |
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| 16:13.31 | prakti | jolt^d4, clamav was/is faulty. I've just encountered this bug: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/10dfc81a2b589953 |
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| 16:14.14 | tt | Can anyone tell me how to generate a "DSA PRIVATE KEY IN PEM FORMAT" ? |
| 16:15.03 | cmihai | Use OpenSSL |
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| 16:16.03 | tt | cmihai: Okay... How? |
| 16:16.14 | gamag | please help me with disabling ipv6. here are the details:- http://rafb.net/p/ZBioF982.html |
| 16:16.19 | Jyzygzel- | so why do i love apt |
| 16:16.21 | Jyzygzel- | http://pastebin.com/m502310a2 |
| 16:16.29 | cmihai | tt openssl gendsa |
| 16:16.46 | tt | cmihai:Thanks. I just googled it and seemed to find some info. |
| 16:16.46 | Jordanna | whats the conpiler package called? |
| 16:16.53 | Jordanna | something-essential |
| 16:17.27 | LoneTech | build |
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| 16:17.32 | Jordanna | :) |
| 16:17.33 | Jordanna | ty |
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| 16:18.58 | nocti | http://Jamf00:sticky@clubcrissy.com/members/Galleries/AllCrissy/DOE1/[001-012].jpg |
| 16:19.01 | nocti | oops |
| 16:19.03 | nocti | sorry |
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| 16:19.24 | cmihai | nocti, nice goingm you've told everyone your p0rn account pass :-). |
| 16:19.43 | turneralex | hahaha |
| 16:19.44 | nocti | guys im having probs with curl, "-o" still outputs to stdout instead of the file i specified |
| 16:19.45 | turneralex | yeah i kno |
| 16:19.55 | nocti | cmihai, just a pornpass from the web |
| 16:20.02 | gamag | hi |
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| 16:20.25 | Slap_stick | hey guys |
| 16:21.26 | nocti | it's suppose to output the file not to stdout but still it does |
| 16:21.26 | cmihai | Hey, we're not helping you gather p0rn... well, unless you share :P |
| 16:21.26 | cmihai | Wait. |
| 16:21.26 | cmihai | Wait a minute. |
| 16:21.26 | Slap_stick | i was wondering if anyone knows of a good program which can execute commands on several servers, the same command and go off and execute the command for a group of servers specified in a file maybe or something. I could write it but it will save me a lot of bother if it already exists |
| 16:21.37 | cmihai | Haven't I seen this before, with porn-get? Are you trying to write something like that? |
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| 16:22.12 | Slap_stick | i'd want it to go off and do the command as root really, maybe like i could type do_it_to_all_script apt-get install thispackage GROUP_SERVER1 or something? |
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| 16:22.30 | LoneTech | Slap_stick: something like pssh? |
| 16:22.38 | Slap_stick | i dont know, let me look up pssh ;-) |
| 16:22.51 | turneralex | Ok |
| 16:23.35 | nocti | cmihai, no nothing that big, just a one-liner bash |
| 16:23.48 | nocti | cmihai, im on cygwin if that helps :) |
| 16:23.54 | Slap_stick | hmm does pssh does it as root? |
| 16:23.57 | turneralex | What's happening when I try to use aptitude, and everytime I try to install something, I get a 'Media Change: Please insert the disk labelled **blah**' |
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| 16:24.05 | Slap_stick | i could write expect scripts you see which is quite simple |
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| 16:24.46 | petemc | turneralex: your /etc/apt/sources.list has entries for cd , rather than network mirrors |
| 16:25.28 | karmatronic | anybody using hotspotfield ? |
| 16:25.36 | turneralex | petemc: Oh! Thanks a ton! |
| 16:25.54 | petemc | np |
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| 16:26.05 | kuribas | Why can't I put a >1GB file on an udf filesystem (dvdram)? |
| 16:26.32 | turneralex | Ahh |
| 16:26.42 | turneralex | I keep entering Cisco IOS commands into my shell |
| 16:26.43 | turneralex | hahahaha |
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| 16:27.31 | Gigantic | Hi, can somebody gimme a little hand? my isp restrict me to access orsn |
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| 16:27.51 | Gigantic | Could someone get there and give me the dns numbers please? |
| 16:27.58 | petemc | opendns |
| 16:28.00 | Gigantic | http://european.gr.orsn.net/index.php |
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| 16:32.02 | Jckf | How can I change the default directory structure created with adduser? |
| 16:32.15 | shyam_1 | hi all i have added testing to the repo list but now most of the program that i choose to install from synaptic wil show me a long list of "to be removed" (mostly including gnome-desktop-environment tooo) what can i do to cure this? |
| 16:32.20 | Gigantic | I don't feel especial trust in US based servers, sorry |
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| 16:32.48 | petemc | Gigantic: run your own dns then |
| 16:33.04 | petemc | Gigantic: your distrust is misplaced, many of the root servers are in the us, so you're using them anyway |
| 16:33.10 | Gigantic | do not exagerate, there is orsn |
| 16:33.21 | petemc | i have no idea what you're talking about |
| 16:33.27 | Gigantic | I know, that's why I need that server |
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| 16:33.35 | Ronin | want to borrow my tinfoil hat Gigantic ? |
| 16:33.44 | Gigantic | Then lol |
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| 16:34.33 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 16:34.45 | Gigantic | com on just a simple favor, go http://www.orsn.net/ and tell me the dns numbers -.- |
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| 16:34.48 | shyam_1 | adding testing to existing debian-etch will cause clash in dependency? |
| 16:34.55 | Gigantic | I can't |
| 16:35.30 | nocti | Gigantic, i pm'd you the numbers |
| 16:35.44 | Gigantic | thanks /bow |
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| 16:36.20 | Gigantic | you are not registered -.- |
| 16:36.23 | saame | 117.98.33.117 |
| 16:36.24 | Gigantic | you can't pm me |
| 16:36.32 | saame | 117.98.33.117 |
| 16:36.32 | nocti | oh wait |
| 16:36.35 | infinity0 | why is it that i've gone through all the files in this directory with gedit and removed all the \r, but when grep grep -cR "\r" * it still comes up with loads of them? |
| 16:36.44 | infinity0 | i grep* |
| 16:36.58 | saame | 117.98.33.117 |
| 16:37.01 | kloeri | saame: please don't repeat |
| 16:37.02 | Gigantic | :) thanks |
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| 16:38.12 | nocti | infinity0, what are you doing? converting dos2nix line endings? |
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| 16:38.37 | infinity0 | nocti: trying to, yes |
| 16:38.46 | nocti | and doing it with gedit manually? |
| 16:38.57 | infinity0 | well i didn't know there was a specific tool for it :/ |
| 16:39.00 | Jordanna | ok, ive been searching for 40 minutes, according to the changelog of this program, its able to bind to an address, but i cant find out how, if someone could maybe help me or point me in the direction? http://quozl.us.netrek.org/tcpxd/ |
| 16:39.01 | infinity0 | is there? |
| 16:39.05 | saame | 117.98.33.117 |
| 16:40.02 | nocti | infinity0, there's dos2nix but you can do that with sed |
| 16:40.18 | infinity0 | i tried reading through the sed man, decided it was quicker this way |
| 16:40.26 | null__ | Hello, how can I donwlo a directori like http://www.project.com/dir/FILESHERE I was using wget -r but it downloads extra 'files' called html etc, how to get the same dir? |
| 16:40.29 | karmatronic | sudo dondelcaro ; kick -u saame |
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| 16:40.30 | infinity0 | but i just searched "line endings" on synaptic and apparently package recode does it |
| 16:40.42 | karmatronic | s/sudo/su |
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| 16:40.59 | infinity0 | also flip does it |
| 16:41.00 | karmatronic | hey it worked ! |
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| 16:42.27 | Jordanna | :/ |
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| 16:44.09 | Jordanna | !tcp relay |
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| 16:46.58 | grungekid | 'lo |
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| 16:49.20 | FLUxXxX | what is the difference between GDM and KDM? Why use one over the other? |
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| 16:51.37 | asg | FLUxXxX: one is kde specific, one gnome specific. It doesn't matter which one you use,generally, if you prefer one over the other |
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| 16:53.04 | karmatronic | FLUxXxX: gdm has an option that disbables port 6000 |
| 16:53.31 | f00bar80 | i have debian sarge i want to know how can i get the mplayer mozilla audio plugin |
| 16:54.01 | karmatronic | !debian-multimedia |
| 16:54.01 | dpkg | i heard debian-multimedia is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>. |
| 16:54.30 | simonrvn | (one works and the other one doesn't, on this box) |
| 16:54.39 | HFactor | any idea how to play AMR? the audio part of 3GP ? |
| 16:54.51 | simonrvn | (login, kdm crashes, gdm doesn't) |
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| 16:59.00 | Arelis | e a Mac but i don't have the money for that. I prefer KDE as desktop environment. I'm using Ubuntu for some time now but it really has many problems with KDE. Also it has some problems with my videocard (ATI Radeon 9600) |
| 16:59.02 | Arelis | oops |
| 16:59.10 | Arelis | What distro do you guys recommend to me? I can handle a few basic commands, although hardware configuration kinda goes beyond me. Also, i would like everything to work, instantly, the moment i plug it in. Because, when i tried to connect my printer, it didn't work, and then my dad wanted me to install Windows to get rid of the trouble. I did it, but could live with it for about 2 days and then reinstalled Ubuntu. Many people are recommending m |
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| 16:59.28 | Arelis | After asking that question several times, i thought it was a good reason to try to understand Debian |
| 16:59.37 | Arelis | how does Debian fit in for all those things i asked in that sentence? |
| 17:00.17 | karmatronic | Arelis: hardware handling is related to kernel , not to a specific distrib |
| 17:01.03 | Arelis | karmatronic: Yes, but still, with some distro's (like Arch Linux) when i plug in printers they don't work at once. Probably because some packages haven't been installed |
| 17:01.21 | lolwhut | Arelis: no OS "has everything that just works", windows included |
| 17:02.08 | lolwhut | Ubuntu has a excellent user to user support base |
| 17:02.22 | lolwhut | but you will have to "get your hands dirty" sometimes |
| 17:02.29 | karmatronic | Arelis: i would rather say the device works but you dont know the user tools to use it |
| 17:02.35 | Jordanna | im looking for a tcp/ip relay program, can anyone help me? |
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| 17:02.56 | karmatronic | Jordanna: fragrouter |
| 17:02.58 | tralala | ubuntu seems to have lots of forums, but #debian is >> #ubuntu |
| 17:03.05 | lolwhut | being that Ubuntu is based on Debian, a lot of what you do on Debian applies as well |
| 17:03.09 | klikklak | the horror, friends of mine are migrating from a hosting company to other, I thought it would run php because they already had phpbb there, it however is IIS and has only perl, phpbb is selectable under a "cgi-wizard" and we need wordpress |
| 17:03.18 | lolwhut | but IMHO, debian is less "new user friendly" |
| 17:03.22 | antixogh | =] I got it working, and now i'm installing reactos, we'll see if I run in to any greif |
| 17:03.30 | Arelis | tralala: I only use the IRC channels anyways. No forums. |
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| 17:04.12 | Arelis | And which "version" would i use to get the newest packages? stable, testing, or unstable? |
| 17:04.14 | tralala | lolwhut, it is, but it is far more power user/professional friendly |
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| 17:04.35 | tralala | Arelis, with debian you should use only stable |
| 17:04.42 | lolwhut | tralala: yup, some of the nuances of Ubuntu really bother me |
| 17:05.04 | lolwhut | so everything i have runs etch |
| 17:05.11 | z25 | elow |
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| 17:05.16 | lolwhut | and everything i "give to" people runs ubuntu |
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| 17:07.10 | kestaz | how to remove sendmail and apache2 |
| 17:07.28 | kestaz | apt-get remove apache2 removed .. but not fully .. |
| 17:07.41 | tralala | kestaz, sendmail? How did you install sendmail? |
| 17:07.48 | klikklak | any hints on a good cheap hosting company, pref. in europe? |
| 17:07.50 | tralala | aptitude remove <package> |
| 17:07.52 | kestaz | apt-get install sendmail |
| 17:07.52 | lolwhut | kestax: apt-get remove --purge apache2 sendmail |
| 17:08.00 | tralala | klikklak, tektonic.net |
| 17:08.16 | tralala | kestaz, why sendmail? |
| 17:08.22 | roaet | if someone does rm -rf * in /usr/bin does that require a reinstall or is there a way to get all of those files back? :( |
| 17:08.22 | kestaz | Package sendmail is not installed, so not removed |
| 17:08.23 | kestaz | Package apache2 is not installed, so not removed |
| 17:08.34 | infinity0 | how do you get grep to search for CR? i thought it was just "\r" but that searches for the character "r" :| |
| 17:08.35 | kestaz | but apache and senmail running |
| 17:09.00 | tralala | kestaz, are you running debian? |
| 17:09.08 | kestaz | ubuntu |
| 17:09.16 | Arelis | does Debian have a liveCD? |
| 17:09.18 | tralala | ask #ubuntu |
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| 17:09.28 | kestaz | tralala: any solutions ? |
| 17:09.50 | Arelis | tralala: I'm not convinced that i should only run stable. I want the latest and greatest packages, and the games i want to play. Which repo should i choose in that case? |
| 17:10.04 | lolwhut | Arelis: Debian Live, http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 17:10.04 | Jckf | Arelis: Ubuntu is based of Debian, so booting Ubuntu will get you Debian as well |
| 17:10.06 | tralala | kestaz, I've had ubuntu installed |
| 17:10.24 | pickcoder | Jckf: eh? |
| 17:10.26 | klikklak | tralala: thx, I'll check it out |
| 17:10.27 | pickcoder | not really |
| 17:10.43 | Jckf | It is Debian running in the background |
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| 17:10.45 | Jckf | Kinda |
| 17:10.48 | pickcoder | no.. it's not |
| 17:10.51 | pickcoder | it's using apt |
| 17:10.52 | Maulkin | Jckf: No, it's not |
| 17:10.53 | pickcoder | that's about it |
| 17:11.00 | pickcoder | the similarties stop there |
| 17:11.05 | pickcoder | similarities even |
| 17:11.14 | Arelis | lolwhut: can i install from the LiveCD? |
| 17:11.26 | klikklak | tralala: ahh, thats american, the site is political and based in sweden, so I'd be a bit hesitant about that |
| 17:11.31 | Maulkin | See the topic. Or /msg dpkg ubuntu /msg dpkg based on debian |
| 17:11.35 | Jckf | Ok. My appologies. I was just stating what I've heard, and I've never used Ubuntu -.- |
| 17:11.43 | tralala | Arelis, you can't have the latest and the greatest with debian. Debian is focused on stability and reliability, not on shiny new stuff. |
| 17:11.48 | lolwhut | Arelis: not like you can w/ ubuntu, but i think it will "install", i use it mostly via netboot |
| 17:11.58 | HFactor | hi |
| 17:12.14 | Arelis | lolwhut: well i have a laptop i can screw around with. Which do you recommend: LiveCD, or normal ISO? |
| 17:12.33 | pickcoder | klikklak: mind a french dedicated box? I was pleased with Dedibox until globalnet cut the bandwidth to the U.S. |
| 17:12.45 | lolwhut | Arelis: if you dont mind losing the contents of the hard drive, the normal iso is the way to go |
| 17:12.51 | tralala | klikklak, if it's political you can shell out some extra bucks. Tektonic is the cheapest hosting I know of. |
| 17:12.55 | klikklak | pickcoder: that'd be ok, I suppose, |
| 17:13.15 | klikklak | tralala: and the buck is cheap for us over here, hmm. I'll mention it |
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| 17:14.08 | pickcoder | klikklak: 45 euros gets you a dedicate server with debian stable |
| 17:14.25 | jolt^d4 | prakti: Good you found it |
| 17:14.30 | pickcoder | unless they upped the prices recently |
| 17:14.40 | klikklak | pickcoder: no need for a dedicated server, I think that'd be overkill, |
| 17:15.05 | Arelis | lolwhut: should i download a Mini ISO? |
| 17:15.14 | pickcoder | actually it's 49.99 now |
| 17:15.15 | pickcoder | http://www.dediboxinternational.com/ |
| 17:15.33 | pickcoder | klikklak: if you can find 160GB shared service for that let me know |
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| 17:16.08 | lolwhut | Arelis: as long as you have a decent net connection, net-inst or bcard iso is fine |
| 17:16.16 | pickcoder | plus you get 100MB unmetered off the freenode network |
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| 17:16.42 | tralala | that's cheap indeed, if you can use all the power |
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| 17:17.45 | eth01 | pickcoder, wow? |
| 17:17.47 | Arelis | tralala: Well, the problem i worry about most, is that if i use the stable edition, i have to wait 3 years to have new hardware be supported. |
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| 17:18.14 | klikklak | pickcoder: yeah, thats pretty good, but for 5 wordpress sites, its over the top |
| 17:18.22 | tralala | Arelis, there are ways around that, see /msg dpkg bop |
| 17:18.33 | tralala | bpo |
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| 17:18.50 | pickcoder | klikklak: I like options.. <g> |
| 17:19.08 | pickcoder | YMMV |
| 17:19.20 | Arelis | tralala: is that safe to use? |
| 17:19.42 | tralala | Arelis, far safer than testing/unstable |
| 17:20.06 | Arelis | tralala: Alright. And can i use windows programs on Debian via WINE? (I mean programs like Adobe Flash CS3) |
| 17:20.07 | pickcoder | Arelis: you can't have stable and bleeding edge support in the same kernel |
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| 17:20.41 | klikklak | anyone else with suggestions on cheap european hosting? |
| 17:20.55 | tralala | Arelis, as long as wine supports it, yes. You can get newer wine versions from bpo |
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| 17:22.08 | asddfasdfasdfasd | they provide packages for etch on winehq |
| 17:22.10 | Arelis | tralala: Alright, sounds like Debian might be a good distro for me :) |
| 17:22.27 | Arelis | tralala: should i just download the Debian MiniISO net-inst Stable? |
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| 17:22.45 | tralala | Arelis, are you using wired network? |
| 17:22.48 | Arelis | tralala: yes. |
| 17:23.01 | tralala | no usb modems for the internet? |
| 17:23.03 | yos87 | Hi |
| 17:23.25 | Arelis | tralala: We have internet through a router, which also supports wireless, but this PC is connected through LAN |
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| 17:23.41 | tralala | Arelis, go for the netinst cd then |
| 17:23.50 | Arelis | tralala: what processor archtype? |
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| 17:24.14 | hijay | hi, if i have a quad core with 12 gb ram, is that enough to run more than 30 Virtual Machines? |
| 17:24.15 | Arelis | tralala: model name : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2800+ |
| 17:25.16 | tralala | Arelis, i386 |
| 17:25.54 | Arelis | tralala: debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso ? |
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| 17:26.03 | klikklak | ahh, found it, damn iis had php hidden. I guess we'll stick with this setup |
| 17:26.10 | tralala | hijay, that would depend on the parameters of the virtual machines and what they'll be doing |
| 17:26.18 | tralala | Arelis, yes |
| 17:26.28 | Arelis | tralala: alright |
| 17:26.36 | pickcoder | Arelis: the i386 installer comes with a compatible kernel, but you could/should install a newer kernel for the K7 once Debian is running |
| 17:26.51 | Arelis | pickcoder: what's K7? |
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| 17:26.57 | yos87 | I have problem with my nautilus, its not working and my desktop not appear, and when I try to run nautilus I have error, http://pastebin.com/d3e181e60 |
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| 17:27.06 | pickcoder | AMD arch name for the seventh gen AMD processor |
| 17:27.18 | hijay | so when i sign up for one of those VPS HOSTING plans, they say that server is equipped with 12GB Memory, i am not actually getting 12 GB Memory? |
| 17:27.18 | Arelis | pickcoder: what download is that? |
| 17:27.27 | pickcoder | Arelis: use the i386 installer |
| 17:27.46 | tralala | the benefits of running cpu optimized kernel are questionable |
| 17:27.47 | pickcoder | get it running and then come back if you want help upgrading the kernel |
| 17:27.51 | bahadunn | hijay: probably not |
| 17:27.58 | Arelis | pickcoder: alright. :) |
| 17:28.05 | Arelis | pickcoder: is the IRC channel that calm? |
| 17:28.05 | pickcoder | tralala: meh |
| 17:28.07 | bahadunn | hijay: you are probably getting a fraction of that assigned to your VPS |
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| 17:28.40 | pickcoder | why put 87 octane gas in your sports car just because it starts and you can save 3 cents a gallon |
| 17:28.43 | dacs | Good morning everyone |
| 17:28.52 | dacs | and good night to some |
| 17:28.54 | pickcoder | (or in the case here, save 20 cents |
| 17:28.58 | tralala | hijay, you're getting whatever their service description says. It certainly is not 12GB though. |
| 17:29.05 | pickcoder | Arelis: no. but upgrading the kernel is a breeze |
| 17:29.10 | pickcoder | it's just another package to install |
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| 17:29.32 | hijay | wow vps is lame |
| 17:29.47 | tralala | hijay, don't buy |
| 17:29.51 | bahadunn | hijay: depends how you use it |
| 17:30.05 | bahadunn | I would not say its lame |
| 17:30.23 | hijay | my sites were so slow |
| 17:30.29 | hijay | i thought VPS were faster than Shared HOsting |
| 17:30.32 | tralala | pickcoder, the question is why putting a 100 octane fuel in your hyundai, when nothing else in the car is geared towards sports. |
| 17:30.34 | bahadunn | if you have a quad core with 12 gb ram and run 12 VPS on it that would be fine for most sites |
| 17:30.49 | bahadunn | if you had 6 VPS on it it would be faster then 12 |
| 17:31.02 | bahadunn | depends what hardware you put on it and how you devide it up |
| 17:31.09 | bahadunn | divide |
| 17:31.13 | hijay | they gave me 250GB of RAID 5 Storage |
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| 17:31.32 | pickcoder | tralala: well it definately won't sputter and knock like 87 in a tuned turbo <g> |
| 17:31.34 | bahadunn | hijay: if they have 30 VPS on a server with 12 gb ram that wont be good |
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| 17:32.10 | bahadunn | but if done right VPS will be faster then shared hosting depending what you are doing of course |
| 17:32.13 | eth01 | recommend a vps provider? |
| 17:32.30 | bahadunn | depends on the shared hosting server too |
| 17:32.34 | tralala | pickcoder, to put it differently, given that the whole distro is compiled with 486 optimizations, a better optimized kernel won't make much of a difference |
| 17:32.40 | bahadunn | how powerful is it, how many sites on it etc... |
| 17:33.11 | pickcoder | tralala: so the real question is why are there arch kernels? |
| 17:33.11 | tralala | eth01, tektonic.net |
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| 17:33.36 | k^^a | hi |
| 17:33.54 | tralala | pickcoder, indeed |
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| 17:37.13 | Jyzygzel- | does NTFS-3G have a channel? |
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| 17:37.27 | hark | #ntfs |
| 17:37.34 | Jyzygzel- | its so empty |
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| 17:38.32 | Jyzygzel- | i was just wondering could i mount my NTFS with Force |
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| 17:39.24 | stew | Jyzygzel-: what does "with Force" mean? |
| 17:39.47 | Jyzygzel- | well you see i try mount my windows partition and it says i had an Unleacn Shutdown last time |
| 17:40.01 | Jyzygzel- | now it recomends i could mount the disk with -force |
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| 17:40.32 | tralala | Jyzygzel-, I'd recommend you to run chkdsk from windows |
| 17:40.40 | Jyzygzel- | i don't have a windows |
| 17:41.04 | tralala | why do you have ntfs then? |
| 17:41.11 | Jyzygzel- | long story |
| 17:41.15 | nocti | :) |
| 17:41.31 | Jyzygzel- | i have a windows live cd tho |
| 17:41.37 | nocti | Jyzygzel-, you need to scan that partition someway or the other |
| 17:41.48 | Jyzygzel- | can i do it with ntfs tools or sometihng |
| 17:41.51 | nocti | of you can cross your fingers and use the "Force" |
| 17:41.57 | Jyzygzel- | will it brake anything? |
| 17:42.01 | Jyzygzel- | it shouldn't |
| 17:42.05 | Jyzygzel- | i mean its just reading |
| 17:42.12 | tralala | there's a definite chance |
| 17:42.15 | nocti | not sure, when i have ntfs, i have winbloze with it |
| 17:42.30 | Jyzygzel- | reading does not modify any data |
| 17:42.38 | Jyzygzel- | maybe im not trying Read Only mode |
| 17:42.46 | tralala | ntfs is not so well supported outside of windows |
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| 17:43.08 | nocti | if you just want to read then ntfs will do well enough without resorting to ntfs-3g |
| 17:43.12 | tralala | Jyzygzel-, and bugs don't exist? |
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| 17:43.25 | Jyzygzel- | its reading.. |
| 17:43.34 | Jyzygzel- | reading does not modify any data in the disk |
| 17:43.38 | tralala | your data, your choice |
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| 17:43.47 | nocti | sure, your pr0n your loss ;) |
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| 17:43.56 | Jyzygzel- | ntfs-3g is by default trying to mount it writable |
| 17:44.04 | Jyzygzel- | its the writing that brakes the system |
| 17:44.10 | elmo40 | is there something wrong with this? : cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdrom1 -dao -speed=40 -eject livecd.iso |
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| 17:44.29 | tralala | Jyzygzel-, we are well aware of the filesystem basics |
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| 17:44.42 | Jyzygzel- | looks like that you are not |
| 17:45.03 | Jyzygzel- | if you think reading will damage the filesystem |
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| 17:45.42 | nocti | Jyzygzel-, we think that you should do whatever it is that you want with your system |
| 17:45.49 | pickcoder | Jyzygzel-: if you already know the answer then why are you asking a question? |
| 17:45.59 | Jyzygzel- | cause i don't know how to mount in read only |
| 17:46.03 | pickcoder | man mount |
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| 17:47.15 | RCOMALTA | wich the best company to buy domain name |
| 17:47.28 | darkizard | namesalerts |
| 17:47.31 | rahul | RCOMALTA: me. give me a million dollars |
| 17:47.32 | SamuraiDio | correct me, someone, if i'm wrong: the ahci module is to access sata hard discs acting in ahci mode, and the ata_piix is to access the ones acting as standard ide. is it right? |
| 17:47.41 | rahul | canadian, not US |
| 17:47.51 | streuner | joker.com, some people told, shouldnt be that bad |
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| 17:48.40 | reiser2 | Hi |
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| 17:48.49 | reiser2 | i buyed a Netra Rack server |
| 17:48.57 | tralala | streuner, some people? joker.com's owners? ;p |
| 17:49.05 | reiser2 | but, how can i use keyboard on it to install Linux ? |
| 17:49.12 | pickcoder | RCOMALTA: it really doesn't matter these days.. find a cheap one, look at their additional services, and try them. If they cause you grief, it's not hard to move the domain to another provider. |
| 17:49.18 | reiser2 | i am new on Rack |
| 17:49.22 | streuner | tralala: surely not :-) |
| 17:49.37 | rahul | wow, you want to type linux into your computer? |
| 17:50.25 | tralala | reiser2, erm... you use a keyboard by pressing the keys... uh, genrally |
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| 17:50.50 | reiser2 | but |
| 17:50.53 | simonrvn | i guess s/he's asking us how to get the kbd working on it... |
| 17:50.55 | Arelis | pickcoder: Alright, i'm in the installation ISO. can you guide me through or give me a guide? |
| 17:51.00 | reiser2 | this rack no have PS2 or something |
| 17:51.04 | simonrvn | reiser2: you read the owner's manual |
| 17:51.16 | reiser2 | hummm |
| 17:51.32 | pickcoder | Arelis: no.. I'm at work. I don't have that kind of hand-holding time. |
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| 17:51.45 | simonrvn | logic is* |
| 17:51.46 | pickcoder | hit enter at the boot prompt and follow the instructions |
| 17:51.50 | tralala | pickcoder, you better stick to a spell checker instead ;p |
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| 17:53.21 | yos87 | I have problem, my Nautilus not working, I tried to reinstall it, But still show error |
| 17:53.35 | Ronin | and that error is? |
| 17:53.36 | simonrvn | reiser2: found out what architecture it is, then follow those installation instructions on the debian site |
| 17:53.59 | reiser2 | yes, the problem is where is the port to keyboard? |
| 17:54.01 | simonrvn | reiser2: they probably have docs for certain machines that resemble it too |
| 17:54.02 | reiser2 | and mouse? |
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| 17:54.11 | tralala | reiser2, use an usb keyboard |
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| 17:54.14 | simonrvn | reiser2: read your owner's manual |
| 17:54.22 | wols_ | reiser2: maybe it's a server in which case it wouldn't need a keyboard |
| 17:54.29 | antixogh | http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n293/antixogh/screenshots/debian-virtualbox-reactos.png =] |
| 17:54.32 | reiser2 | i am searching for |
| 17:54.36 | reiser2 | is a used rack |
| 17:54.43 | reiser2 | no manual |
| 17:54.57 | rahul | so wtf can we do about it? |
| 17:55.02 | simonrvn | then find an online copy... |
| 17:55.03 | tralala | reiser2, and the manufacturer doesn't have a support site? |
| 17:55.07 | rahul | stop bothering us |
| 17:55.14 | reiser2 | is used tralala |
| 17:55.16 | rahul | I WANT MY SILENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:55.22 | tralala | yay |
| 17:55.32 | simonrvn | reiser2: FIND. AN. ONLINE. COPY. |
| 17:55.46 | rahul | it's used, therefore it was never manufactured? |
| 17:55.50 | tralala | simonrvn, don't you get it?!? IT IS USED!!!11 |
| 17:55.59 | rahul | I'll use you! |
| 17:56.11 | simonrvn | tralala: hehe |
| 17:56.25 | simonrvn | rahul: i'm not your type :P |
| 17:56.30 | reiser2 | i get it |
| 17:56.35 | rahul | simonrvn: you're blonde? |
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| 17:56.46 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 17:57.14 | wols_ | rahul: no, but he has long hair |
| 17:57.22 | rahul | rawr |
| 17:57.30 | rahul | something to tug on |
| 17:57.56 | tralala | !undope rahul |
| 17:58.01 | reiser2 | dammm |
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| 17:59.27 | rahul | tralala: it's not my fault simonrvn put a date rape pill in my morning tea! |
| 17:59.58 | reiser2 | To perform the inital configuration when you install the Netra t1 system, and also |
| 17:59.58 | reiser2 | for on-going monitoring and management of the system, you will need to use at |
| 17:59.58 | reiser2 | least one of the serial ports on the system’s rear panel. You can connect either or |
| 17:59.58 | reiser2 | both serial ports to any of the following devices: |
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| 18:00.05 | asg | rahul: you've been feeding him Aqua Dots again haven't you |
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| 18:00.09 | simonrvn | ffs |
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| 18:00.36 | rahul | heh |
| 18:00.38 | reiser2 | sorry |
| 18:00.41 | Ronin | if reiser2 ever finds thier way back this could be interesting |
| 18:00.42 | rahul | reiser2: DIE |
| 18:00.53 | wols_ | reiser2: painfully |
| 18:01.14 | wols_ | Ronin: how so? since when are out of turn sunday people interesting? |
| 18:01.24 | tralala | reiser2, we really aren't interested in your servers details. Find out how to start the installer, and come back with _debian_ questions. |
| 18:01.35 | pickcoder | reiser2: if you have to use an RS-232 port for initial O/S install then consider searching about installing+serial+console+Linux |
| 18:01.42 | Ronin | wols_: its a nice quiet friday here at work, i can only play so much cod4 at one time |
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| 18:01.49 | reiser2 | ok |
| 18:01.50 | reiser2 | thanks |
| 18:01.51 | FastPutty | howto know what server mail i used? |
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| 18:02.30 | wols_ | Ronin: bastage making us suffer him for your entertainment |
| 18:02.30 | Ronin | FastPutty: usually the one you installed |
| 18:02.30 | wols_ | FastPutty: huh? |
| 18:02.30 | FastPutty | actually i forgot lol |
| 18:02.30 | rahul | LAWL |
| 18:02.30 | FastPutty | postfix, exim, ... |
| 18:02.30 | wols_ | FastPutty: dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 18:02.30 | rahul | I R FUNIE |
| 18:02.32 | FastPutty | sendmail |
| 18:02.33 | eth01 | !lol |
| 18:02.33 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 18:02.34 | FastPutty | wtf |
| 18:02.34 | FastPutty | lol |
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| 18:03.03 | Ronin | wow deja vu |
| 18:03.15 | rahul | Ronin: are you happy now? |
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| 18:03.43 | tralala | rahul, man you seriously need to cut down the crack |
| 18:04.13 | rahul | I cut it with speed |
| 18:04.19 | rahul | 'sall good. |
| 18:04.30 | rahul | oh wait, meth |
| 18:04.48 | FastPutty | !lol |
| 18:04.48 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 18:04.48 | nocti | you need more crack to get over the plateau phase, go take some more |
| 18:04.56 | rahul | heh |
| 18:05.20 | FastPutty | !wtf |
| 18:05.25 | rahul | !stfu |
| 18:05.26 | dpkg | i guess stfu is Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg |
| 18:05.31 | tralala | FastPutty, /msg dpkg msg the bot |
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| 18:05.47 | rahul | heh, that's so overfiend. |
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| 18:10.34 | eth01 | warning |
| 18:10.37 | eth01 | children present!! |
| 18:10.46 | eth01 | look above to see what i'm talking about |
| 18:10.48 | eth01 | ¬.- |
| 18:10.49 | antixogh | I read man mount, and I need to use the option _netdev in my fstab for cifs. but it didn't give an example how do I use this option? |
| 18:11.17 | eth01 | man doesn't give every possible example, antixogh.. |
| 18:11.53 | antixogh | ok well i'll google it again |
| 18:12.13 | azeem | antixogh: read the cifs documentation for that |
| 18:12.57 | jintxo | hello there I'm trying to get a second vhost running on my apache2 server (debian stable) and I *think* I'm following all the docs correctly but somehow I can't get to the second vhost. i posted a config file here http://www.alberguinn.com/default just in case anyone wants to take a quick glance. no errors or warning in the logs. cheers |
| 18:13.41 | wols_ | jintxo: a2ensite |
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| 18:14.37 | pickcoder | jintxo: also try *:80 instead of * |
| 18:14.46 | antixogh | ok I got it i'll go see if it works now "//192.168.15.132/home /home/debstation cifs credentials=/root/.dspasswd,_netdev 0 0" |
| 18:14.48 | antixogh | brb |
| 18:14.54 | jintxo | wols_, it's enabled (I have tried in 2 different manners, by creating a secondary site in sites-available and by just editing the default); same results both ways |
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| 18:15.49 | jintxo | pickcoder, thanks, tried with that as well and I get the exact same result either way as well. that's why I'm stumped, lol |
| 18:16.18 | pickcoder | jintxo: what is the error? |
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| 18:16.39 | pickcoder | never mind |
| 18:16.47 | jintxo | pickcoder, no error, I just get the first vhost no matter what hostname I use to get to the http server |
| 18:16.52 | pickcoder | get rid of the wild-card secondary domain alias in the first vhost |
| 18:16.58 | pickcoder | tsk tsk |
| 18:17.08 | jintxo | redundant, yeah |
| 18:17.25 | pickcoder | it's a first-match scenario |
| 18:18.01 | pickcoder | you don't need serveralias if it's the same as the servername |
| 18:18.07 | pickcoder | that's just redundant |
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| 18:18.32 | jintxo | argh!!! haha that was it man, now that you pointed it out, it seems so obvious *plonk* |
| 18:18.37 | jintxo | so many thanks |
| 18:18.45 | jintxo | pickcoder, ^ |
| 18:19.20 | pickcoder | no prob |
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| 18:20.24 | BadRobot | hi |
| 18:20.28 | BadRobot | there |
| 18:20.31 | BadRobot | people |
| 18:20.35 | BadRobot | does anyone knows on which folder is the pidgin files located? |
| 18:20.42 | rahul | which files? |
| 18:20.49 | rahul | man dpkg... |
| 18:20.51 | BadRobot | no folder |
| 18:21.02 | tralala | BadRobot, /msg dpkg enter |
| 18:21.02 | rahul | huh? |
| 18:21.12 | nocti | :) |
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| 18:21.45 | BadRobot | is it on /usr or /lib? |
| 18:21.55 | nocti | BadRobot, man find |
| 18:22.01 | SamuraiDio | BadRobot, witch files?? |
| 18:22.05 | abrotman | BadRobot: WHICH pidgin files? |
| 18:22.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | "dpkg -L pidgin" |
| 18:22.14 | abrotman | BadRobot: dpkg -L pidgin |
| 18:22.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | ehe |
| 18:22.38 | BadRobot | thx |
| 18:22.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman: :-P |
| 18:22.57 | nocti | :) |
| 18:23.05 | rahul | BadRobot: you should learn how to use the tools you have been given |
| 18:23.11 | abrotman | dpkg: cut CutMeOwnThroat's tongue out |
| 18:23.17 | abrotman | yay! |
| 18:24.01 | BadRobot | thx |
| 18:24.07 | BadRobot | i will use |
| 18:25.16 | abrotman | !tell BadRobot about grounding |
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| 18:26.06 | rahul | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html |
| 18:26.18 | eth01 | !tell eth01 about alot |
| 18:26.32 | eth01 | oppps |
| 18:26.34 | eth01 | !tell eth01 about alotw |
| 18:26.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | where, where? |
| 18:26.51 | azeem | eth01: please /msg the bot |
| 18:26.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | !fundamentals |
| 18:26.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, fundamentals is You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at ... |
| 18:27.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | where, where? |
| 18:27.12 | eth01 | azeem: ? |
| 18:27.12 | dto | hello. i'm on lenny, and i've installed ntp to keep my clock in sync. periodically, the monitor will go into power-save mode in the middle of work, and freenode closes my connection. i'm guessing this means a clock jump, but I never think to look at the time until after it happens. |
| 18:27.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | that one seems kind of unfinished |
| 18:27.22 | dto | i also get " "last superblock write time is in the |
| 18:27.23 | dto | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.26 | azeem | eth01: /msg dpkg alot |
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| 18:27.41 | Diafic2 | going offline, new modem arrived |
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| 18:27.47 | dto | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.31 | abrotman | dto: maybe you need to sync more often? or use a drift file |
| 18:28.47 | rahul | dto: are you using ntpd or ntpdate? |
| 18:29.35 | dto | rahul: ntp |
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| 18:29.45 | dto | rahul: this machine is almost always online |
| 18:29.51 | rahul | hmm |
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| 18:30.17 | rahul | well, if there's a major clock sync, it should show up in syslog |
| 18:30.53 | dto | hold on |
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| 18:31.42 | dto | rahul: Dec 14 11:50:31 pod ntpd[3561]: time reset +61200.979907 s |
| 18:31.42 | dto | Dec 14 11:50:31 pod ntpd[3561]: kernel time sync status change 0001 |
| 18:31.42 | dto | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:31.53 | rahul | yeah |
| 18:31.57 | abrotman | ouch |
| 18:32.00 | rahul | that's kinda major :) |
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| 18:32.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | "small correction" :) |
| 18:32.08 | dto | yeah |
| 18:32.08 | abrotman | dpkg: 61200/60 |
| 18:32.09 | dpkg | 1020 |
| 18:32.12 | abrotman | hehe |
| 18:32.13 | vvd | help, got 2 scsi disks with linux. grub reads menu.lst from the correct hd (the first one). but when linux boots /dev/sda is the second hd and when i mount /dev/sdb its the same content as on /dev/sda. so, sd[ab] refer both to physical hd2 and hd1 is not accessible. any idea? |
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| 18:32.39 | abrotman | that's like 14 hours? |
| 18:32.43 | jngu1 | Is there a way to save text while you're in less? |
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| 18:32.53 | Arelis | Guys, i'm installing Debian but it says it failed. 'creating of the ext3-filesystem on partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) has failed' Can anyone help me with this? |
| 18:32.53 | jngu1 | I piped something to less, and would now like to save it. |
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| 18:33.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | jngu1: "v" |
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| 18:33.09 | jngu1 | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks. |
| 18:33.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | jngu1: opens same in editor - dunno if it works with pipes |
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| 18:33.35 | jngu1 | It says cannot edit stdin |
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| 18:33.54 | jngu1 | less is one of the worse keywords to google for :D |
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| 18:33.58 | dto | so how do I fix my clock? |
| 18:33.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | jngu1: hm "man less" :) s filename Save the input to a file. This only works if the input is a pipe |
| 18:34.00 | nocti | jngu1, what are you "lessing" anyway |
| 18:34.09 | dto | =is it a UTC issue? |
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| 18:34.22 | jngu1 | nocti: I did a du -a | sort -n | less |
| 18:34.30 | jngu1 | and I just decided I wanted to save the output. |
| 18:34.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | jngu1: so use "s" |
| 18:34.35 | jngu1 | ah |
| 18:34.38 | nocti | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | jngu1: and use "man less" instead of google |
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| 18:35.06 | nocti | hehe >less would save that to a file called "less" |
| 18:35.11 | nocti | :D |
| 18:35.22 | jngu1 | CutMeOwnThroat: s worked perfectly |
| 18:35.23 | jngu1 | thanks. |
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| 18:35.42 | jngu1 | yeah |
| 18:35.50 | Arelis | Guys, i'm installing Debian but it says it failed. 'creating of the ext3-filesystem on partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) has failed' Can anyone help me with this? |
| 18:35.51 | tralala | Arelis, any more details on tty4? |
| 18:35.54 | jngu1 | I thought I was just going to look at it, but decided it was going to take too long to regenerate. |
| 18:35.56 | Arelis | tralala: let me look |
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| 18:36.19 | Arelis | tralala: a lot of end_requests and I/O errors |
| 18:36.37 | tralala | Arelis, how did you create the partition? |
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| 18:37.11 | procdaemon | tralala: cfdisk |
| 18:37.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, that sounds like a faulty harddisk... |
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| 18:37.55 | Arelis | tralala: with the built-in guided partition.. thingy |
| 18:38.29 | tralala | Arelis, what do you want first - the bad or the good news? |
| 18:38.56 | simonrvn | "bad news: you're fucked! good news: you're fucked!" :P |
| 18:39.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | tralala: I think I already told him the bad news... what's the good ones? |
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| 18:39.41 | Arelis | tralala: the bad |
| 18:39.43 | rahul | simonrvn: playing hart to get eh? |
| 18:39.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 18:40.10 | simonrvn | you're getting annoying, TBH. |
| 18:40.14 | rahul | you're supposed to squeal, not sigh |
| 18:40.14 | abrotman | getting? |
| 18:40.24 | simonrvn | heh |
| 18:40.47 | tralala | Arelis, your disk is dying/dead. On the positive side - this means you're going to have a new, better one. |
| 18:41.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
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| 18:41.58 | Arelis | tralala: My computer i'm testing it on is a laptop - so it's very bad news. The good news is that i had Ubuntu running on it a month or so ago but then screwed up an install of SuSe linux. |
| 18:42.21 | tralala | Arelis, an old one? |
| 18:42.34 | Arelis | tralala: A Toshiba satellite pro A40 or something like that. |
| 18:42.43 | tralala | Arelis, an old one? |
| 18:42.54 | Arelis | tralala: About 4 years ago i got it |
| 18:43.03 | Arelis | used it much for servers |
| 18:43.19 | tralala | that's rather telling |
| 18:43.41 | tralala | buy a new disk and don't use it for a server |
| 18:43.52 | Arelis | you mean a new laptop. |
| 18:43.57 | Arelis | That one's hard to screw open |
| 18:44.16 | Arelis | But the strange thing is that a month ago it was still working. |
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| 18:44.24 | tralala | laptop hard disks ought to be replacable |
| 18:44.55 | tralala | Arelis, one of my disks was working the day before and the day after was dead |
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| 18:46.28 | Arelis | tralala: I sincerely don't think it's broken though |
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| 18:46.35 | simonrvn | lappies aren't really meant to be run as servers - exception being maybe as a router, but there's better choices for that too |
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| 18:47.26 | tralala | Arelis, don't take our word for it - play with it for a while and see for yourself |
| 18:47.36 | Arelis | yeah but that was like 2 years ago, after that i started using it for general tasks |
| 18:48.08 | Arelis | tralala: i don't know how, because no OS is currently installed on my system, and debian "refuses" (well, the computer refuses to install debian) |
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| 18:50.02 | tralala | Arelis, try installing different distros |
| 18:50.10 | pickcoder | Arelis: "refuses" ? |
| 18:50.26 | Arelis | tralala: good idea |
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| 18:50.38 | Arelis | pickcoder: i've already placed the explanation next to that word./ |
| 18:51.41 | pickcoder | Arelis: reboot into expert mode by typing "expert" at the boot prompt. That will give you more install control. |
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| 18:52.17 | pickcoder | Arelis: you did "everything on one partition" option? |
| 18:52.17 | tralala | pickcoder, the installer cannot create a fs and the kernel log reports plenty of IO errors |
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| 18:54.41 | Tramp | Arelis: Boot a Live-CD, run smartctl on the disk. Although I'm not a fan of smart, it may confirm that your disk has issues and save you time. |
| 18:54.43 | Arelis | pickcoder: First try i did the seperate /home option, but the second time (i tried two times) i did the 'everything on one partition' option |
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| 18:55.12 | pLr | can someone help me, i need to setup 30 ssh tunnels to 1 host, all 30 are behind a NAT. I need help plz |
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| 18:55.56 | pickcoder | Tramp: and what if it's too old to have SMART |
| 18:56.21 | Tramp | pickcoder: good point. Than he wasted time booting the live-Cd to find out. |
| 18:56.38 | pickcoder | not really.. you can still mount the disk R/W and try to use mkfs on it |
| 18:57.02 | Arelis | tralala: tried installing Ubuntu alternate: the partitioning WORKED! harddrive is -NOT- broken. Yay! |
| 18:57.12 | Tramp | pickcoder: or maybe run badblocks |
| 18:57.51 | pickcoder | Arelis: partitioning is different than formatting |
| 18:58.30 | Tramp | pLr: I fail to see what the problem is |
| 18:58.48 | Arelis | pickcoder: formatting worked too |
| 18:58.52 | Arelis | tralala: formatting worked too |
| 18:59.03 | tralala | Arelis, retry debian |
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| 19:01.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, I had a similar problem with a harddisk... repeated read errors and timeouts on the disk... |
| 19:01.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | was fine after we replaced the disk |
| 19:02.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | but the same disk seemed ok, when it was run under windows |
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| 19:03.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think the occurance of those errors might depend on your PIO mode and other related "hdparm"-accessible options |
| 19:03.46 | blitzo5 | Hi everyone, I have an apt question |
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| 19:04.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I never got it to run properly under debian either... it was at university so we just replaced it |
| 19:04.14 | blitzo5 | I am trying to install some older version of mysql and apache for a legacy php application |
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| 19:04.20 | famicon__ | hi there |
| 19:04.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell blitzo5 about ask |
| 19:04.28 | famicon__ | im trying to install debian on a VIA c7 |
| 19:04.46 | famicon__ | but every time the instaler gets stuck on partitioning disks |
| 19:04.56 | blitzo5 | Is there a way in apt I can set a package to never be removed? |
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| 19:05.05 | famicon__ | and WINDOWS installs just fine |
| 19:05.13 | yang | which tool should i use for checking DVD-rom media status? |
| 19:05.23 | blitzo5 | I found info on never updating via a Pin but now apt just wants to remove my older packages |
| 19:06.21 | famicon__ | blitzo5 what exactly did you pin |
| 19:06.23 | tralala | I had a sata hard disk that was giving me awful performance. One day I was so pissed off with it I left it to copy a 40 gig partition over night. Next morning it was a brick. |
| 19:06.33 | blitzo5 | mysqlserver |
| 19:06.41 | limpio | famicon__: what's the error? |
| 19:06.44 | blitzo5 | the client and common |
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| 19:06.49 | famicon__ | limpio no error at all |
| 19:06.53 | famicon__ | it just does nothing |
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| 19:07.00 | blitzo5 | it is very important that I use version 4.0.20 |
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| 19:07.13 | limpio | famicon__: what does it do? is debian the only os? |
| 19:07.19 | gamag | please help me to disable ipv6 completely. |
| 19:07.34 | gamag | please read this http://rafb.net/p/EQLxNM55.html for details of my problem |
| 19:07.37 | famicon__ | limpio yeah it is now |
| 19:07.43 | famicon__ | i removed windows cause its gay |
| 19:07.56 | famicon__ | but now etch is acting bicurious as well |
| 19:08.21 | limpio | famicon__: so when you partition, do you choose the whole hd? |
| 19:08.27 | famicon__ | yeah |
| 19:08.28 | cmak | can anyone help me, i can mount /dev/sda1 twice and each mount gives me different contents. any idea? |
| 19:08.48 | famicon__ | let me try and partition only a single gig |
| 19:08.56 | famicon__ | and see if its not just slow |
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| 19:09.27 | limpio | famicon__: choose the one for newbies, / and swap |
| 19:09.33 | famicon__ | yeah i did that |
| 19:09.44 | limpio | famicon__: choose the automatic partition |
| 19:09.50 | famicon | yeah i did that |
| 19:10.07 | positron2007 | Can someone help me? I was here this afternoon, can't use apt-get, if for example I do apt-get update it says Waiting for headers, for a long time |
| 19:10.09 | famicon | it just hangs at 33% for an hour |
| 19:10.11 | positron2007 | Anyone? |
| 19:10.28 | limpio | famicon: what does it do? stop talking in monosyllables, elaborate if you want help |
| 19:10.40 | famicon | limpio thats what it does |
| 19:10.48 | famicon | partman just hangs at 33% |
| 19:11.43 | limpio | famicon: go to 'manual partition' and use the option to format the different partitions or the whole hd |
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| 19:12.35 | famicon | limpio do i need to give my root partition a bootable flag? |
| 19:12.52 | limpio | famicon: yes, |
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| 19:13.22 | famicon | ok writing to it right now |
| 19:13.27 | famicon | AHAHA |
| 19:13.45 | famicon | partitions formatting: 33% |
| 19:13.50 | famicon | and nothing happens after that |
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| 19:14.33 | limpio | famicon: did you check the md5sum for the install disk? |
| 19:14.42 | famicon | yes |
| 19:14.44 | famicon | i did |
| 19:14.56 | limpio | is it a netinstall iso? |
| 19:15.17 | famicon | no |
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| 19:15.22 | famicon | OOOH |
| 19:15.25 | famicon | i think it worked |
| 19:15.49 | limpio | bye-bye |
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| 19:19.20 | Arelis | tralala: for some reason.. 'tis working |
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| 19:20.32 | tralala | Arelis, use it, but better start putting money aside for a new disk and do regular backups |
| 19:20.47 | tralala | IO errors do not appear for no reason |
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| 19:20.54 | Arelis | tralala: naw it's still installing |
| 19:20.55 | redtape | hey guys |
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| 19:21.34 | Arelis | tralala: and my laptop is not my main computer |
| 19:22.29 | Arelis | tralala: also, one question: i NEED to use a tablet called Wacom (brand) 'Bamboo Fun' (model). In Ubuntu, it's possible to get it working with some hacks and tweaks. However, can I do that in debian? |
| 19:22.34 | shyam_k | here is my sources.list http://pastebin.ca/816313 ..i have just typed apt-get upgrade and now as i try to install pdfcube,gnuradio and lott more softwares through synaptic,it shows a long list of packages to be removed including gnome-desktop-environment...what could be the problem? |
| 19:22.48 | Arelis | tralala: Also... while installing, debootstrap has quit with an error |
| 19:23.12 | Arelis | tralala: ah.. I/O error... |
| 19:24.34 | Arelis | tralala: Now i tried to partition again.. "ERROR!!!" |
| 19:24.43 | Arelis | it's literally saying that |
| 19:24.43 | tralala | Arelis, try a kmuto installer (/msg dpkg kmuto) |
| 19:24.54 | shyam_k | is it the problem with the way its written in sources.list? |
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| 19:25.34 | tralala | shyam_k, are you using stable? |
| 19:25.55 | Arelis | tralala: Please help, everything i do is resulting in an error.. |
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| 19:26.08 | Arelis | tralala: But i don't want to install it on my main PC yet.. want to avoid trouble |
| 19:26.08 | Jyzygzel- | i just checkdisked my NTFS systems |
| 19:26.12 | shyam_k | tralala: ya basically i have a debian etch installed from downloaded debian dvd |
| 19:26.13 | Jyzygzel- | still nto mounting |
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| 19:26.22 | Jyzygzel- | fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy |
| 19:26.22 | Jyzygzel- | FUSE mount point creation failed |
| 19:26.23 | tralala | Arelis, try a kmuto installer (/msg dpkg kmuto) |
| 19:27.04 | shyam_k | but in the sources.list i have added testing to get new softwares but that will lead to clash of dependency? |
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| 19:27.13 | Arelis | tralala: that's only for the tablet, but i'm having other issues right now. Sorry, i put two questions through eachother, although i think the question with the harddisk is of higher priority to me now. |
| 19:27.26 | tralala | shyam_k, you can't mix branches like that - you'll break your OS |
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| 19:27.46 | tralala | shyam_k, stick to stable and when you absolutely need something newer take it from backports |
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| 19:28.07 | shyam_k | oo thanks,, |
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| 19:29.04 | stew | Jyzygzel-: what version of debian is this? |
| 19:29.11 | tralala | Arelis, the real answer to the disk problem is "replace the disk". The tablet might want a newer kernel but if it works with ubuntu it will work with debian as well. |
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| 19:29.21 | Jyzygzel- | new |
| 19:29.44 | stew | Jyzygzel-: what version of ntfs-3g is installed? |
| 19:29.48 | Arelis | tralala: it works with ubuntu when i manually get the new linuxwacom drivers and hack the kernel a bit |
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| 19:30.12 | tralala | Arelis, you recompile the kernel? |
| 19:30.14 | Jyzygzel- | 1,913 |
| 19:30.35 | stew | Jyzygzel-: what is that number? where did you get that? |
| 19:30.36 | Arelis | tralala: no, i install a sort of patch |
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| 19:30.58 | Jyzygzel- | ntfs-3g 1913 |
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| 19:31.04 | stew | Jyzygzel-: oh, you are running ubuntu gutsy |
| 19:31.17 | tralala | Arelis, I assume you mean an external module |
| 19:31.21 | Jyzygzel- | no! |
| 19:31.21 | stew | Jyzygzel-: as i've told you before, this channel is for debian support only, please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 19:31.31 | Arelis | tralala: yes, something like compiling a module |
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| 19:31.44 | Jyzygzel- | i can't go there |
| 19:31.47 | Jyzygzel- | it wont join |
| 19:31.48 | tralala | Arelis, that should work fine with debian |
| 19:32.02 | stew | Jyzygzel-: if you are having problems with #ubuntu, ask in #ubuntu-ops |
| 19:32.02 | tralala | Jyzygzel-, soon it wont join here either |
| 19:32.18 | positron2007 | tralala, can you help? http://rafb.net/p/R0LXch62.html |
| 19:32.25 | positron2007 | That's my sources.list |
| 19:32.30 | positron2007 | I can't use apt-get |
| 19:32.34 | positron2007 | It gives an error |
| 19:32.47 | Arelis | tralala: hmm. What do you think of Fedora? if Debian gives me issues while -INSTALLING-, i don't really want to try it |
| 19:32.50 | positron2007 | Waiting for headers for a long time |
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| 19:33.10 | tralala | positron2007, what is this "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch testing main non-free" supposed to mean? |
| 19:33.14 | cmyers__ | Hey all, I'm having a problem running Xorg. (debian testing). It errors out saying "Failed to load module pcidata (module does not exist, 0)". Googling around has failed to find the exact answer, although it appears there are lots of potential causes. |
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| 19:33.20 | positron2007 | I don't know |
| 19:33.26 | positron2007 | tralala, I tried many things |
| 19:33.47 | tralala | Arelis, I use only debian on all my machines |
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| 19:34.18 | tralala | positron2007, remove it |
| 19:34.48 | positron2007 | tralala, done |
| 19:34.48 | pickcoder | positron2007: that source list entry is not proper.. you either put "etch" or "stable" where "etch testing" is. |
| 19:34.51 | dutchfish | !sources.list |
| 19:34.51 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "apt-get update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 19:34.59 | pickcoder | positron2007: etch is stable, btw.. testing is lenny |
| 19:35.13 | VisezTrance | hi, how can i run sudo commands ? it outputed a message, i don't have permissions, this incident will be reported. so i added my self to the sudo group, but still getting that message. ultimetly i added my self into the /etc/sudoers file but the problem is that i'm not prompted for any password... i just get root privileges.. |
| 19:35.24 | asg | VisezTrance: man sudoers |
| 19:35.31 | tralala | positron2007, don't mess with testing. Run "aptitude update" now |
| 19:35.37 | positron2007 | deb http://debian.ua.pt/debian/ etch contrib main non-free |
| 19:35.51 | VisezTrance | please read throughly |
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| 19:36.06 | positron2007 | I was using this |
| 19:36.21 | asg | VisezTrance: yes, you added yourself to the sudoers file and aren't getting prompted. The reason for this is explained in the sudoers manpage |
| 19:36.22 | tralala | VisezTrance, please read man sudoers thoroughly |
| 19:36.33 | positron2007 | tralala, don't have aptitude I think, I did apt-get update and it's the same thing |
| 19:36.50 | tralala | positron2007, you do have aptitude |
| 19:37.02 | positron2007 | bash: aptitude: command not found |
| 19:37.34 | pickcoder | I'm not sure if woody or sarge upgrades force an aptitude install |
| 19:37.53 | VisezTrance | gee thanks [...] |
| 19:38.10 | tralala | positron2007, did you upgrade from sarge? |
| 19:38.11 | pickcoder | it's "important" not "required" |
| 19:38.14 | positron2007 | No |
| 19:38.20 | asg | VisezTrance: *sigh* paste the line you added to /etc/sudoers |
| 19:38.20 | tralala | VisezTrance, you're welcome |
| 19:39.10 | HardDisk_WP | hi all, how do I recursively tar a directory with symlinks preserving file attributes? |
| 19:39.25 | VisezTrance | if may i ask, what's *wrong* with vi in debian ? .. could be just me, but is it different ? |
| 19:39.36 | simonrvn | just you |
| 19:39.44 | xand | VisezTrance: different to what? vim? |
| 19:39.47 | asg | VisezTrance: it's nvi by default, not vim which is what you are used to |
| 19:39.53 | minerale | can I configure sshd to only allow users whose uid is > 1000 ? |
| 19:40.05 | VisezTrance | god.. i knew it! |
| 19:40.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | asg: do you know why vim isn't default? |
| 19:40.28 | tralala | HardDisk_WP, with the help of tar's manual |
| 19:40.29 | xand | minerale: you can restrict users by group or by username |
| 19:40.36 | positron2007 | tralala, can you send me your sources.list? |
| 19:40.44 | HardDisk_WP | tralala, tar cfp dir.tar dir/ didnt work |
| 19:40.46 | asg | CutMeOwnThroat: bloat or the donationware license most likely. It's easily added if one needs it. |
| 19:40.58 | tralala | positron2007, are you ircing from this box? |
| 19:41.04 | positron2007 | Yeah |
| 19:41.09 | tralala | HardDisk_WP, try "cpf" |
| 19:41.23 | tralala | positron2007, grep proxy /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ -r |
| 19:41.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | asg: just that I guess "everyone" wants it (who's using vi at all) |
| 19:41.45 | positron2007 | It gives no output |
| 19:41.50 | tralala | -ir |
| 19:41.53 | HardDisk_WP | tralala, eh sry i meant cfr...but it 'd be crf then? |
| 19:42.25 | tralala | HardDisk_WP, yes |
| 19:42.32 | asg | CutMeOwnThroat: only people that aren't BSD heads :) |
| 19:42.36 | positron2007 | No output |
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| 19:42.59 | Fiskah | How do I see which process id is listening at a port? |
| 19:43.01 | VisezTrance | so.. in my sudoers file i have daniel ALL=(ALL) ALL .. so.. what do i have to add to be propmted for the root password ? |
| 19:43.08 | \amethyst | minerale: at the beginning of /etc/pam.d/ssh you can have something like auth required pam_succeed_if.so uid > 1000 |
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| 19:43.35 | tralala | Fiskah, netstat -p |
| 19:43.48 | asg | VisezTrance: that should prompt you for *your* password, not root's. If that line doesn't prompt you for a password, paste your entire sudoers file in a pastebin. Something is wrong. |
| 19:43.49 | VisezTrance | one can just cat | grep his name from that file and paste it here, i won't mind .. |
| 19:44.07 | simonrvn | !uuoc |
| 19:44.07 | dpkg | UUOC is the Useless Use of Cat Award. Given out for years by Randal Schwartz on the newsgroup comp.unix.shell. Basically, most constructions that look like "cat filename | grep pattern" can be more easily written as "grep pattern filename". Works for grep and most other Unix utilities. Easier to type and marginally more efficient. |
| 19:44.14 | asg | simonrvn: :) |
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| 19:44.23 | tralala | positron2007, how did it stop working? |
| 19:44.31 | positron2007 | I don't know |
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| 19:44.47 | positron2007 | It was working and then it stopped working |
| 19:44.50 | simonrvn | asg: ;) |
| 19:45.10 | tralala | positron2007, paste the output |
| 19:45.13 | simonrvn | sounds like my kerby :| |
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| 19:46.10 | minerale | \amethyst: that was impressive, thank you, I'll keep note of that |
| 19:46.23 | positron2007 | tralala, http://rafb.net/p/CTIpt993.html |
| 19:46.29 | positron2007 | But it's in Portuguese |
| 19:46.58 | seria-mau | is there a way to reset /etc/rc*.d to default values? |
| 19:47.03 | tralala | positron2007, LANG=C apt-get update |
| 19:47.30 | seria-mau | i think i made some mistakes when playing around with this init system :) |
| 19:47.42 | simonrvn | \amethyst: ooh, that looks handy (pam_succeed_if) |
| 19:47.42 | positron2007 | It's going to take about an hour to give you the same messages in English |
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| 19:47.54 | tralala | seria-mau, reconfigure the relevant packages |
| 19:48.20 | VisezTrance | so.. he're the file: http://pastebin.com/m2c7d7934 |
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| 19:48.41 | tralala | positron2007, no, it will take a few seconds if you follow the instructions |
| 19:48.53 | seria-mau | tralala: that's all? dpkg-reconfigure $package? |
| 19:48.58 | VisezTrance | as I said earlier, I just added the last line in there |
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| 19:49.08 | positron2007 | tralala, but it's still doing Waiting for headers :/ |
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| 19:49.20 | tralala | seria-mau, I'm not entirely sure but it's worth a try |
| 19:49.38 | tralala | positron2007, paste the waiting message |
| 19:49.44 | asg | VisezTrance: and does running 'sudo -k ; sudo -l' prompt you for a password? |
| 19:49.47 | dutchfish | positron2007, are you behind a proxy? |
| 19:49.51 | seria-mau | i found update-rc.d but when used with the default command it does set the number by default to 20 (which isnt good, i assume) |
| 19:50.15 | positron2007 | tralala, http://rafb.net/p/7ajcB695.html |
| 19:50.16 | tralala | seria-mau, that's not what you want |
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| 19:50.23 | positron2007 | I think I'm not dutchfish |
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| 19:50.39 | tralala | positron2007, echo $http_proxy |
| 19:50.58 | pickcoder | localhost? |
| 19:51.00 | VisezTrance | no it doesn't, however, i already had used sudo in the past 5 minutes |
| 19:51.01 | TurboBee | what modules need to be loaded for a mouse to work? I just got done getting my wireless card working, and the mouse stopped working shortly after I rebooted. |
| 19:51.02 | steve | anyone know whether a 2 yearold dual xeon 3.2ghz will outstrip a core2quad 2.4ghz (Q6600)? |
| 19:51.08 | shyam_k | hi tralala heard debian lenny is some what stable now..whats the best method o get the more stable lenny version now? |
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| 19:51.11 | positron2007 | http://localhost:4001 |
| 19:51.17 | pickcoder | heh |
| 19:51.20 | dutchfish | privoxy? |
| 19:51.21 | positron2007 | :) |
| 19:51.22 | asg | VisezTrance: sudo -k would have purged that fact. Are you sure you are running as daniel and not root? |
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| 19:51.35 | positron2007 | I used 4001 for mldonkey |
| 19:51.36 | tralala | positron2007, unset http_proxy |
| 19:51.42 | positron2007 | Not sure if it is that |
| 19:51.42 | VisezTrance | pretty sure :) |
| 19:51.51 | asg | VisezTrance: what does 'id' print? |
| 19:52.04 | VisezTrance | uid=1000(daniel) gid=1000(daniel) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),107(netdev),110(powerdev),1000(daniel) |
| 19:52.11 | Danielss89 | Hi, i have a folder with emails... its just plain text.. can i find the emails which contain a work? |
| 19:52.18 | Danielss89 | s/work/word |
| 19:52.21 | positron2007 | Coooool! |
| 19:52.28 | positron2007 | Thanks people! |
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| 19:52.50 | tralala | shyam_k, you have been misinformed. Lenny is not stable yet. Use backports (/msg dpkg bpo) |
| 19:53.07 | VisezTrance | Danielss89: you could use grep |
| 19:53.31 | pickcoder | is there even a target release date for Lenny at this point? |
| 19:53.32 | asg | VisezTrance: try removing yourself from the 'sudo' group and see if that fixes it |
| 19:53.53 | tralala | pickcoder, of course - wir |
| 19:53.55 | Danielss89 | VisezTrance what would it look like if i wanted to files with "hehe" in them? |
| 19:54.02 | asg | VisezTrance: disregard that, you aren't in it by the looks of it |
| 19:54.11 | seria-mau | tralala: well, tried it. doesnt work :/ |
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| 19:54.14 | positron2007 | tralala, Can I ask what was LANG=C? |
| 19:54.32 | pickcoder | well since there was a supposed shorter release cycle I would have thought that someone would have stated a preliminary date |
| 19:55.12 | tralala | positron2007, the short answer - changes the language to the source code default (usually english). The long answer - man locale |
| 19:55.15 | abrotman | pickcoder: they have |
| 19:55.33 | asg | !pubtime |
| 19:55.33 | dpkg | pubtime is, like, time for asg to go .. 3pm!, or http://jackalopejacks.com/ |
| 19:55.38 | asg | close enough |
| 19:55.43 | abrotman | hehe |
| 19:55.44 | pickcoder | abrotman: ok |
| 19:55.54 | VisezTrance | Danielss89: .. i'm not to good with grep, but for example you can.. grep -E -ilr hehe your_email_directory i'm sure other folks here can help you more in this regard |
| 19:56.00 | tralala | seria-mau, try to reinstall |
| 19:56.12 | abrotman | pickcoder: there was an email a few months ago .. but i don't think anything has frozen yet |
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| 19:56.33 | pickcoder | I wouldn't expect a freeze for several months |
| 19:56.53 | pickcoder | Etch was released in April IIRC |
| 19:57.01 | dutchfish | !release |
| 19:57.01 | dpkg | i heard release is Etch has been released (2007-04-08). Etch is Debian 4.0, and is now considered "stable". Ask me about <install debian> or <sarge->etch>, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/ for the latest (and historical) releases. |
| 19:57.06 | tralala | what's all the hurry about? Etch just released! |
| 19:57.23 | pickcoder | tralala: I don't like using BPO |
| 19:57.25 | pickcoder | <g> |
| 19:57.44 | tralala | pickcoder, would you prefer ubuntu? |
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| 19:57.49 | pickcoder | um.. no |
| 19:57.52 | pickcoder | I like a stable O/S |
| 19:58.09 | tralala | that's etch |
| 19:58.19 | pickcoder | and that's what I run |
| 19:58.21 | seria-mau | tralala: nope. doesnt work |
| 19:58.34 | tralala | seria-mau, purge, then install? |
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| 19:58.46 | VisezTrance | sudo -k still doesn't prompt for anything.. this is not nice.. as a user, i can't view modify root files, but i can sudo .. |
| 19:58.48 | pickcoder | but there are some driver fixes in .19+ kernels |
| 19:59.24 | tralala | pickcoder, there's bpo. Like it or not. |
| 19:59.31 | Danielss89 | okey so lets say i want to delete these files insted.. what could i do then? |
| 19:59.45 | tralala | there's bpo-it-yourself too |
| 19:59.57 | pickcoder | which is what I do for drivers |
| 20:00.15 | pickcoder | nothing has blown up yet |
| 20:00.35 | tralala | I only did it for abitguru |
| 20:00.39 | minerale | am I allowed to edit /etc/shadow by hand? I accidentaly set a password for the postgres user, it should have no password |
| 20:00.48 | tralala | and I didn't like the experience |
| 20:01.13 | tralala | I'd be using .22 from bpo if lirc was not abandoned :( |
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| 20:01.34 | tralala | in debian |
| 20:01.46 | VisezTrance | well i would write a small script in my favorite scripting language.. had to write one at work for recursively cleaning the .svn directories.. there could be a smarter way than doing this though.. |
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| 20:01.51 | pickcoder | I had to patch the it87 hwmon driver this weekend to get sensors to work on a new asus board |
| 20:02.28 | dutchfish | VisezTrance, use git? ;) |
| 20:03.30 | VisezTrance | we are using rubyonrails, and most people develop using svn.. so we're using.. svn too.. |
| 20:03.34 | bahadunn | git is sweet |
| 20:03.42 | bahadunn | svn sucks |
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| 20:04.36 | VisezTrance | yes yes.. flame on |
| 20:05.19 | VisezTrance | i see a lot of oss projects still using cvs, i'm not complaining ;) |
| 20:05.31 | bahadunn | hey use what you like |
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| 20:05.37 | jelly-home | !start a scm war |
| 20:05.40 | bahadunn | I am just voicing my opinion |
| 20:05.53 | bahadunn | my opinion rarely matters to anyone so who cares |
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| 20:06.12 | tralala | !start git flamewar |
| 20:06.25 | dutchfish | well, acording to linus svn users are retarded, seen his webcast? |
| 20:06.26 | tralala | dpkg, stupid bot |
| 20:06.27 | dpkg | no, stupid tralala |
| 20:06.43 | Nigromante | dpkg, sit down |
| 20:06.43 | VisezTrance | still not any closer solving my problem.. |
| 20:06.55 | seria-mau | tralala: well, afaik update-rc.d mechanism is designed to keep settings despite updating/reinstalling software, right? perhaps the best way is to go through /etc/init.d skripts and use update-rc.d on those skripts which have default runlevel settings, using the start-number they currently have in some of /etc/rc?.d |
| 20:07.10 | bahadunn | VisezTrance: I thought git solved your problem? |
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| 20:07.35 | Nigromante | who is using kernel 2.6.23.9? any problems? |
| 20:07.52 | wols_ | !polls |
| 20:07.53 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 20:07.53 | VisezTrance | i fail to grasp the sudoers <-> git answer |
| 20:08.01 | jelly-home | Nigromante: do you expect any? |
| 20:08.01 | dutchfish | Nigromante, just updated to 2.6.23.10 |
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| 20:08.20 | bahadunn | Nigromante: I was using it |
| 20:08.22 | Nigromante | dutchfish, already 10? |
| 20:08.25 | Jokinen | thats the newest one? |
| 20:08.28 | bahadunn | Nigromante: I had no problems with it |
| 20:08.33 | Nigromante | ok |
| 20:08.39 | Nigromante | thx |
| 20:08.42 | dutchfish | Nigromante, http://www.kernel.org/kdist/fragments/stable.html |
| 20:08.43 | bahadunn | no problem |
| 20:08.44 | tralala | seria-mau, uhm, no. Try purge and install |
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| 20:09.18 | Nigromante | thx dutchfish they must have updated this afternoon |
| 20:09.27 | dutchfish | Nigromante, ;) |
| 20:09.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | asg: I think I disagree on the bsd-vi thing - I've used Irix and Solaris a lot - but vim is just so much better... |
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| 20:10.09 | [jasper] | hej guys, I wanna setup software raid 5 ...atm in the install of debian... from disk |
| 20:10.13 | [jasper] | how can I do this? |
| 20:10.37 | dutchfish | Nigromante, found out last week thats .9 had some flaws, see SOCK_SEQPACKET |
| 20:11.13 | Nigromante | oh, I see... I will compile tomorrow morning... |
| 20:11.31 | seria-mau | tralala: well, i can't do this for packages like udev. have to remove my kernels, then |
| 20:11.46 | dutchfish | Nigromante, 2.6.24-rc5 is also promising, running it too atm |
| 20:12.07 | Nigromante | any interesting new features? |
| 20:12.44 | jelly-home | !gentoosmite Nigromante |
| 20:12.59 | dutchfish | Nigromante, yes, process group shed |
| 20:13.03 | tralala | seria-mau, http://rafb.net/p/HHMP1S38.html |
| 20:13.18 | jelly-home | dutchfish: you can shed groups away? Who cleans the mess up? |
| 20:13.30 | jelly-home | sorry, pgroups |
| 20:14.41 | tralala | seria-mau, with a small programme and some luck you can use this to fix your rc scripts |
| 20:15.01 | dutchfish | jelly-home, Fair group CPU scheduler |
| 20:15.30 | seria-mau | tralala: nice. thanks :) |
| 20:15.36 | tralala | seria-mau, you're welcome |
| 20:15.54 | minerale | how do I 'unset' the password for a user -- so that there's no password for that person? can I just edit /etc/shadow and delete the hash by hand? |
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| 20:16.42 | \amethyst | minerale: what do you mean by no password, exactly? |
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| 20:16.50 | tralala | minerale, no password as loggin in without a password? |
| 20:17.01 | \amethyst | minerale: they can log in without a password, or they can't log in with any password? |
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| 20:17.08 | VisezTrance | oh well.. can live with just su, i removed my self from the sudoers group |
| 20:17.08 | minerale | ameyer: correct, something I can SU into only |
| 20:17.08 | seria-mau | tralala: well, update-rc.d $foo defaults doesnt work anyway :/ |
| 20:17.12 | VisezTrance | i mean.. file |
| 20:18.09 | abrotman | SPAMMER! |
| 20:18.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | minerale: that's not "no password" - no password = can login without being asked |
| 20:18.12 | tralala | seria-mau, the defaults of update-rc.d are always 90 20 or so. You don't want this for all the packages |
| 20:18.25 | seria-mau | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.57 | simonrvn | abrotman: for sure |
| 20:19.03 | seria-mau | tralala: yes, but i can look at the prerequisites listed in the /etc/init.d skript |
| 20:19.04 | tralala | minerale, passwd -l user |
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| 20:19.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | minerale: if you edit /etc/shadow, use "vipw -s" - put a "*" in the password field and the account will not be accessible (except for root who can su into it) |
| 20:19.09 | abrotman | i never get spam! |
| 20:19.31 | simonrvn | abrotman: in #rh and here. pretty typical for those bots |
| 20:19.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman: give me your email address, I can help |
| 20:19.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | :-P |
| 20:19.43 | abrotman | oh .. except from antixogh |
| 20:19.55 | VisezTrance | on to the next issue .. glxgears showed some nice fps with my integrated gma 950, so I tried war3, however it displayed some graphic corruption.. unlike the previous non-debian based distro I had been running .. any ideas ? |
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| 20:20.23 | simonrvn | gotta turn some setting off to get the spams |
| 20:20.55 | tralala | /mode -e? |
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| 20:22.34 | simonrvn | no, some nickserv thingy to allow non-authed people to /msg you |
| 20:22.40 | jzxu | is there any way I can suppress the "can't stat /dev/.static/dev" warning in lsof? |
| 20:22.46 | simonrvn | i think that's it. could be something else |
| 20:22.48 | tralala | simonrvn, that's the one |
| 20:23.04 | simonrvn | jzxu: ignore it |
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| 20:23.40 | tralala | jzxu, alias lsof='lsof | grep -v /dev/.static/dev' |
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| 20:24.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | tralala: isnt that going to stderr? Then that wouldnt work |
| 20:24.08 | abrotman | simonrvn: i've tried .. never works |
| 20:24.18 | tralala | oh well |
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| 20:24.39 | tralala | I was being silly anyhow |
| 20:25.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | jzxu: run lsof as root :) |
| 20:25.30 | jzxu | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't have that option |
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| 20:25.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | jzxu: or let root do chamod a+rx /dev/.static ... |
| 20:26.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | else... |
| 20:26.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | lsof 2>/dev/null |
| 20:26.38 | jzxu | yeah I think I'll chmod /dev/.static |
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| 20:28.06 | jzxu | CutMeOwnThroat: great, it worked, thanks |
| 20:28.15 | schmichael | anyone know if this will work in debian sid? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3350605&CatId=2688 |
| 20:28.29 | schmichael | i can't find the chipset anywhere, so i'm guessing i shouldn't buy it |
| 20:28.48 | simonrvn | doesn't really matter to it actually working |
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| 20:31.28 | VisezTrance | i'll be off now, i got to say i really like debian. won't change back for anything :) |
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| 20:31.56 | simonrvn | windows sucks |
| 20:32.03 | K_Dallas | i know ;) |
| 20:32.30 | tralala | ubuntu too |
| 20:32.49 | tralala | but you already knew that |
| 20:32.58 | K_Dallas | simonrvn, i actually installed back xp just for my kid to use chessmaster etc. I still think Linux has a lot to do in the game business and that is from someone who has never played a game! |
| 20:33.47 | simonrvn | K_Dallas: yes, and multimedia editing |
| 20:33.52 | tralala | linux doesn't have anything to do in the game business. The game business however has lots to do for linux |
| 20:34.26 | simonrvn | good point, that's true |
| 20:34.38 | gordonjcp | meh |
| 20:34.45 | gordonjcp | there are lots of good games for linux |
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| 20:34.51 | gordonjcp | particularly fpses |
| 20:35.06 | simonrvn | there are, but not everyone is into FPS... |
| 20:35.11 | gordonjcp | video editing is a bit lacking |
| 20:35.25 | K_Dallas | simonrvn, I thought there were great programs for multimedia editing (maybe not free) |
| 20:35.34 | Fiskah | How do I see which process id is listening at a port? |
| 20:35.58 | gordonjcp | ardour is free, and Free |
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| 20:36.03 | K_Dallas | gordonjcp, i wouldn'T know about games available for linux but if some kid wants to play a particular game, that is where the problem kicks in |
| 20:36.04 | jolt^d4 | Fiskah: netstat -anp|grep $program |
| 20:36.10 | gordonjcp | and is one of the best audio editing packages out there |
| 20:36.13 | jolt^d4 | Fiskah: Perhaps as root |
| 20:36.19 | simonrvn | K_Dallas: lives is pretty good, but it needs to get away from mmap()ing stuff |
| 20:36.37 | tralala | 21:43 < Fiskah> How do I see which process id is listening at a port? |
| 20:36.37 | tralala | 21:43 < tralala> Fiskah, netstat -p |
| 20:36.49 | simonrvn | ardour i haven't played with yet |
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| 20:37.16 | K_Dallas | simonrvn, all right. i don't do any multimedia stuff the only reason i said it was that I read ubuntu was used in the making of some of the holywood blockbusters |
| 20:37.54 | simonrvn | K_Dallas: yeh, gimppaint or such. (changed name, can't remember what to now) |
| 20:38.07 | gordonjcp | cinepaint |
| 20:38.13 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 20:38.14 | gordonjcp | it's a messed-about-with gimp |
| 20:38.17 | K_Dallas | :) |
| 20:38.23 | simonrvn | thanks |
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| 20:40.18 | HellTiger | i need an high conf. timer/countdown software with global hotkey support like amarok. any ideas? |
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| 20:41.06 | tralala | dpkg, test |
| 20:41.07 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 20:41.08 | tralala | dpkg, are you ignoring me?!? |
| 20:41.38 | tralala | laggard |
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| 20:42.04 | schmichael | is there a list of wifi adapters/chipsets that work well with debian/linux? |
| 20:42.08 | Airbottle | hey, i want to start rtorrent at 1.00h and stop it at 9.00h via crontab, am i supposed to change something in /etc/crontab, or do i only have to add the commands in the file that appears when i execute crontab -e |
| 20:42.09 | Airbottle | ? |
| 20:42.14 | schmichael | i asked a few days ago, but lost the link :( |
| 20:42.25 | abrotman | !wireless |
| 20:42.26 | dpkg | hmm... wireless is The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux or try asking #wireless, or see http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html, or ask me about <what's my wireless> |
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| 20:43.31 | tralala | schmichael, the chances are these lists are not up to date (just as any other linux hw support list) |
| 20:43.46 | Tramp | user-crontab is probably what you want ("crontab -e") |
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| 20:43.58 | schmichael | abrotman, tralala: thanks |
| 20:44.03 | Fiskah | tralala: Hehe thanks, sry about that.... Had to run away when I last asked, and my scrollback was to short I guess :) |
| 20:44.06 | Tramp | Airbottle: user-crontab is probably what you want ("crontab -e") |
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| 20:44.42 | Airbottle | and do i have to activate the crontab after i made the adjustements via "crontab -e"? |
| 20:44.52 | Airbottle | or let it reload or something? |
| 20:45.09 | tralala | Airbottle, no |
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| 20:46.23 | Tramp | Airbottle: it happens magically. cron checks them. |
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| 20:46.32 | schmichael | anyone have any suggested wifi adapters/chipsets/manufacturers? |
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| 20:47.36 | BlueToothz | is it possible windows winRAR, untars, tar files from linux? |
| 20:47.42 | BlueToothz | or can i make a .rar file somehow in linux |
| 20:47.44 | tralala | schmichael, atheros is allegedly the best supported chipset |
| 20:47.46 | Airbottle | and do i have to add my username to a list /etc/cron.allow to be allowed for using cron? |
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| 20:48.44 | tralala | BlueToothz, rar has linux version |
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| 20:50.00 | Tramp | Airbottle: man crontab, man cron, man 5 crontab |
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| 20:51.27 | Airbottle | aha ok Tramp |
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| 20:54.46 | kantor | is there a way program to generate configure scripts (to generate makefiles for program compilation)? |
| 20:54.48 | _abc_ | evening |
| 20:55.18 | _abc_ | I am struggling with installation of 4.0r1 |
| 20:55.54 | _abc_ | I have all 4 dvd images copied to disk and unpacked (dir trees not iso) |
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| 20:56.21 | kantor | _abc_, there is not only 3 DVD images ? |
| 20:56.26 | Tramp | kantor: configure scripts are made with autoconf - not that i ever really used it. |
| 20:56.46 | tralala | kantor, autoconf? |
| 20:56.54 | _abc_ | I tried to register them using apt-cdrom -m -d=... but dselect tries to mount them on cd. how do I set up a sources list that avoids that ? I did read the howto, but it does not help. |
| 20:57.04 | kantor | ok thanks Tramp |
| 20:57.09 | _abc_ | kantor, there is a fourth update |
| 20:57.19 | tralala | _abc_, dselect?! |
| 20:57.21 | _abc_ | cca. 1.3GB |
| 20:57.34 | _abc_ | tralala, is that a forbidden word ? |
| 20:57.41 | tralala | !dselect |
| 20:57.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dselect is a wonderful UI for package management. or really more powerful than apt-get or the only thing that provides FULL data when making decisions on whether to install a package. most people should not hate dselect but some seem to have been told to. just read the help screens, or <Ozzie> is there a dselect howto? - Yes there is: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/dselect-beginner/ Also ask me about <aptitude>. ... |
| 20:58.22 | tralala | hmm |
| 21:00.02 | tralala | _abc_, just use apt-get or aptitude |
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| 21:01.17 | Airbottle | 07 * * * * david gedit |
| 21:01.24 | xand | maybe putting them in /var/cache/apt, _abc_? |
| 21:01.39 | Airbottle | if i put this in crontab -e will it execute gedit at **.07h? |
| 21:01.54 | Airbottle | should it do that? because it doesnt do that here |
| 21:01.57 | xand | Airbottle: I no, and why would you do that? |
| 21:02.01 | xand | -I |
| 21:02.05 | Airbottle | i wanted to test it |
| 21:02.10 | Airbottle | i dont understand how it works |
| 21:02.12 | xand | Airbottle: maybe if you set $DISPLAY |
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| 21:02.29 | xand | and your crontab doesn't have your username in |
| 21:02.31 | Airbottle | i read the manpage, but i still dont understand its too short |
| 21:02.52 | xand | minute hour day/month month day/week command |
| 21:02.56 | xand | which manpage? |
| 21:03.08 | xand | Airbottle: man 5 crontab |
| 21:03.13 | _abc_ | xand thanks, how do I put them there ? |
| 21:03.23 | Ezep | how could enable kernel framebuffer in the default kernel of debian etch¿ |
| 21:03.24 | Airbottle | i did that xand |
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| 21:03.52 | _abc_ | and, dselect asks funny questions about where I put the distribution if I try to register mounted media |
| 21:04.02 | _abc_ | should it not find such things alone ? |
| 21:04.09 | _abc_ | after being given the root |
| 21:04.14 | _abc_ | of the mount point ? |
| 21:04.47 | tralala | _abc_, how does your sources.list look like? |
| 21:05.50 | Ezep | kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-486 root=/dev/hdb1 ro vga=788 |
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| 21:06.02 | Ezep | it's that enough to enable framebuffer? |
| 21:06.28 | xand | Ezep: does it work? |
| 21:06.30 | Ezep | when i boot with this, grub say that this is an invalid resolution |
| 21:06.31 | Ezep | no |
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| 21:06.42 | tralala | Ezep, vga=791? |
| 21:06.51 | Ezep | I use 800x600 |
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| 21:07.07 | xand | Airbottle: 7 * * * * /path/to/command will run at 0:07 every day |
| 21:07.07 | Ezep | my monitor is oldie kinda |
| 21:08.13 | abrotman | xand: every hour |
| 21:08.15 | tralala | Ezep, what video card? |
| 21:08.48 | Ezep | tralala: ups, i think... i dunno.. a trident one |
| 21:08.48 | _abc_ | tralala, the sources.list was edited by me: all web resources are commented out, and 4 dvd contents are registered in it using apt-cdrom -m -d=... |
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| 21:09.17 | _abc_ | apparently an offline apt howto exists ? pointer ? |
| 21:09.19 | Ezep | tralala: lspci don't show it |
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| 21:09.23 | xand | abrotman: um yes. |
| 21:11.09 | Ezep | tralala: yes, it show it |
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| 21:11.34 | Airbottle | xand can i use /usr/local/bin/rtorrent as a command, in terminal it starts the rtorrent program? |
| 21:11.46 | xand | Airbottle: yes |
| 21:11.48 | Tramp | !apt howto |
| 21:11.48 | dpkg | [apt-howto] at http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto, or aptitude install apt-howto-en |
| 21:12.06 | Tramp | _abc_: does that help? |
| 21:12.47 | Ezep | tralala: it's a Trident Microsytem TGUI 9660/938x/968x (rev d3) |
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| 21:13.56 | tralala | Ezep, echo tridentfb >> /etc/mkinitrd/modules |
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| 21:14.57 | Ezep | tralala: the dir mkinitrd don't exist, might i make it? |
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| 21:15.24 | [jasper] | hej guys, if I have a 37 gb drive what would be good sizes for /var / tmp/ /swp /home partitions? |
| 21:15.31 | Airbottle | 20 * * * * /usr/local/bin/rtorrent is the command. This was the first command i tried it didn't work and still doesnt work. |
| 21:15.34 | _abc_ | Tramp, I am reading it now. brb |
| 21:15.45 | tralala | Ezep, no, wait |
| 21:16.39 | Tramp | Airbottle: from quickly checking it appears, that rtorrent is a ncurses, i.e. terminal-bound torrent client |
| 21:16.51 | Airbottle | yes |
| 21:17.16 | Tramp | Airbottle: which implies, that it needs a terminal to run. So you cannot trivially start it from cron |
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| 21:17.48 | abrotman | Airbottle: because it's wrong |
| 21:17.56 | Airbottle | not at all? |
| 21:18.03 | abrotman | Airbottle: and there's no controlling term .. |
| 21:18.15 | Airbottle | i tried something with a "screen" program |
| 21:18.43 | abrotman | what are you trying to do? |
| 21:18.48 | tralala | Ezep, dpkg -l yaird | grep ^ii | tail -1 |
| 21:18.54 | Tramp | was just about asking that... |
| 21:19.16 | Airbottle | i want to start rtorrent at 1.00h and shut it down at 9.00h. |
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| 21:19.39 | abrotman | why? |
| 21:19.43 | Airbottle | because whe have many computers on one connection i cannot afford it to let it on at the daytime |
| 21:19.54 | Airbottle | it slows significantly the connectionspeed down |
| 21:20.30 | drwahl_ | i just purchased a logitech Pro 9000 webcam and would like to get it working. i install linux-uvc-sourc linux-uvc-tools and luvcviewer and i have no luck getting video. any ideas? |
| 21:20.40 | Airbottle | i can schedule it with the rtorrent-scheduler, but it is not enough to throttle the speed |
| 21:20.53 | Ezep | tralala: nothing :/ |
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| 21:21.31 | tralala | Ezep, ls /boot/initrd* |
| 21:22.15 | Ezep | initrd.img-2.6.18-4-486 |
| 21:22.19 | Ezep | the default one |
| 21:22.21 | abrotman | Airbottle: use atd and killall |
| 21:22.36 | abrotman | Airbottle: in a screen :) |
| 21:22.43 | tralala | Ezep, and you have no /etc/mkinitrd/? |
| 21:22.52 | schmichael | in case anyone cares, this wifi pci adapter is cheap and madwifi.org says its supported: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3350606&CatId=2688 |
| 21:22.54 | Ezep | nop =/ |
| 21:23.07 | Airbottle | the problem is that i'm not always home to do it manually, i want it automated :) |
| 21:23.25 | Ezep | I think I have to install mkinitram for that :# |
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| 21:23.59 | Ezep | tralala: this is the minimal instalation, only instales few programs like irssi :S |
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| 21:25.12 | tralala | Ezep, dpkg -l initrd-tools | grep ^ii | tail -1 |
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| 21:25.57 | Ezep | Anything too |
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| 21:27.19 | _abc_ | Tramp that helped. I am working on it but I can see the light. thanks |
| 21:27.38 | Tramp | _abc_: fine 8) |
| 21:27.58 | cyrill62 | Hi, the cfs package maintener for debian etch is here? |
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| 21:28.41 | Tramp | Airbottle: I think you can start rtorrent via openvt - not sure though, if that works. |
| 21:28.46 | tralala | Ezep, try modprobe tridentfb |
| 21:29.12 | Airbottle | ok, thanks Tramp, i'll look it up |
| 21:30.14 | Tramp | Airbottle: i.e put "openvt /path/to/rtorrent" in your crontab as the command to run |
| 21:30.39 | Airbottle | will it pop up a terminal? |
| 21:30.45 | [jasper] | guys |
| 21:30.49 | [jasper] | do I need a /tmp directory? |
| 21:30.59 | Tramp | Airbottle: nope. |
| 21:31.43 | abrotman | [jasper]: yes |
| 21:31.51 | abrotman | or at least /tmp/ to point somewhere else |
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| 21:32.39 | jelly-home | Tramp: openvt has to be done as root... at which point he might as well use inittab instead of cron |
| 21:33.24 | Tramp | jelly-home: ah, ok. That's a point. |
| 21:33.37 | abrotman | MOO |
| 21:33.52 | jelly-home | !abrotmoo |
| 21:33.52 | dpkg | maaaan! I am abrotmoo, hear me man, I weigh twice as much as moon, I'm a man, eating grass, factoid gas comes out my ass. I'm a man, you are too; join us all! type !moo. |
| 21:34.02 | abrotman | why can't he just call screen with rtorrent |
| 21:34.18 | jelly-home | .. that factoid meter is all wrong |
| 21:34.19 | keith4 | is there any way to get a list of nfs exports on a remote host? |
| 21:34.53 | jelly-home | keith4: showmount -e hostname |
| 21:34.58 | keith4 | thanks |
| 21:35.07 | Airbottle | yes abrotman, i messed around a bit with the "screen" program, but i cant get it to work, i must be doing something wrong, or have somehting wrong in that file |
| 21:35.43 | tralala | Airbottle, you can't get it to work? You just type screen and it starts working |
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| 21:36.42 | Tramp | abrotman: But doesn't screen need a controlling terminal to start with? |
| 21:36.55 | Airbottle | but in combination with crontab tralala, crontab doesn't like me, it doesn't execute what i ask. i check it by setting it like 43 * * * * and wait till its that time to check if it works, but there is never anything happening |
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| 21:37.32 | tralala | Ezep, did it crash? |
| 21:37.43 | jelly-home | Airbottle: what about a simple 39 * * * * echo foo ? |
| 21:37.53 | SerajewelKS | where did the xine sink for pulseaudio go in lenny? |
| 21:38.01 | Ezep | tralala: yeap :P |
| 21:38.10 | Tramp | jelly-home: huh? where should that echo? |
| 21:38.22 | Ezep | tralala: I think it's a problem of the monitor |
| 21:38.58 | Tramp | I usually suggest /usr/bin/touch /tmp/foobar |
| 21:39.07 | tralala | Ezep, framebuffers do that |
| 21:39.16 | jelly-home | Tramp: where the default stdout and stderr for every cron job goes, into the user's mailbox |
| 21:39.19 | Tramp | jelly-home: Would imply a correct mail-setup |
| 21:39.22 | Tramp | yeah. |
| 21:39.42 | Airbottle | where do i find the users maibox jelly-home |
| 21:39.43 | Ezep | tralala: u think this is not problem of the monitor? |
| 21:39.58 | Tramp | see |
| 21:40.01 | jelly-home | Tramp: not having at least localhost mail set up is seriously broken, IMHO |
| 21:40.05 | Airbottle | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.05 | Airbottle | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:40.22 | Tramp | Airbottle: Try "/usr/bin/touch /tmp/foo" as command. This should really work. |
| 21:40.53 | Tramp | jelly-home: I completely agree, but see how real-life gets in the way 8) |
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| 21:41.10 | tralala | Airbottle, http://rafb.net/p/PA4DM541.html |
| 21:41.21 | jelly-home | Airbottle: um, in the usual place. /var/mail/$USER and use any mail client it |
| 21:41.33 | jelly-home | s/it/to read it/ |
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| 21:42.46 | jelly-home | Tramp: I wonder how one can have a unix machine without mail. wtf. |
| 21:42.56 | tralala | Ezep, I think the problem is the driver or the hardware |
| 21:42.59 | Airbottle | yes there is the message jelly-home |
| 21:43.23 | jelly-home | Airbottle: that means cron works. |
| 21:43.40 | Airbottle | ok, great, one certainty :) |
| 21:44.03 | Ezep | there is a .conf in /etc/svga*/ that might be there... |
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| 21:44.17 | Ezep | I haven't got this dir too :S |
| 21:44.33 | tralala | Ezep, anyway you might try to put the module in the initrd.img and experimet with vga= |
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| 21:45.05 | tralala | Ezep, you should get help here how to do it. As for me - I gotta get some sleep. |
| 21:45.24 | Ezep | Great, thx for all tralala :) |
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| 21:45.31 | tralala | Ezep, you're welcome |
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| 21:46.04 | Airbottle | tralala: you sent a link to a script, what does that do? |
| 21:46.28 | tralala | Airbottle, uses screen to start a detached torrent session from a crontab entry |
| 21:47.13 | tralala | in other words does exactly what you want unless I've misunderstood something |
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| 21:47.50 | pdb_ | hey I just got done compiling a kernel and i need to make an initrd, how do i do this for debian? |
| 21:47.54 | jelly-home | How to see which runlevel is the machine in? |
| 21:48.04 | tralala | jelly-home, runlevel |
| 21:48.34 | tralala | pdb_, /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 21:48.50 | tralala | now I'm really off to bed |
| 21:48.57 | tralala | good night, everyone |
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| 21:49.03 | Airbottle | #!/bin/sh |
| 21:49.03 | Airbottle | gnome-terminal -x rtorrent |
| 21:49.03 | Airbottle | can't i use this script tralala? its a script to start rtorrent in a terminal when i execute it |
| 21:49.12 | kestaz | audtool: audacious server is not running! how to enable it ? |
| 21:49.26 | Airbottle | oh, ok bye tralala, thanks for the help |
| 21:49.47 | pdb_ | tralala: thats rather confusing |
| 21:49.56 | tralala | Airbottle, DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal -x rtorrent (perhaps) |
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| 21:50.31 | tralala | pdb_, that's how we do it in debian |
| 21:50.34 | Airbottle | if i execute that script a terminal pops up where rtorrent started |
| 21:50.39 | pdb_ | ok, different question. I actually wanted to compile in support so I didn't need an initrd. I am using lvm crypt with ext3. I thought I compiled everything in... |
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| 21:51.38 | Tramp | Airbottle: use the screen-solution tralala suggested. I consider it extremely elegant. |
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| 21:52.08 | Fiskah | Ehm. How do I search the running processes? |
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| 21:53.21 | Airbottle | ok i'll try Tramp, but i dont understand the script :s (yeah, im not a computer programmer) :) |
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| 21:56.06 | Airbottle | ok, i'm boing to bed now, i'll be back tomorrow |
| 21:56.18 | Airbottle | bye, and thanks for the help |
| 21:56.22 | CharminTheMoose | in iceweasel, is it possible for me to somehow copy the cached .swf files and view them in a flash player? |
| 21:56.41 | Tramp | Fiskah: what do you want to search? |
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| 21:57.26 | Sebboh | How do I spell 'ner do well', meaning an individual who never does things right, or, the right thing? |
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| 21:58.16 | DenJS | hi all |
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| 21:59.04 | Sebboh | Charmin, are you interested in videos in particular? Because for those, (example: youtube, your local news station, or your favorite porn site) the swf is actually a player that downloads a flv file, flash video. You can save that and play it in your fav media player, if you have the right decoded for flv files. VLC can do it. |
| 21:59.23 | DenJS | who use this distributive http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ with 2.6.23 kernel? |
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| 22:01.05 | streuner | !-tell DenJS about -ask |
| 22:01.20 | CharminTheMoose | Sebboh: hrm.. right... |
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| 22:02.31 | jelly-home | streuner: what do all those minuses in the wrong places do? |
| 22:03.23 | Sebboh | Charmin, to grab the FLV files, I recommend using a caching proxy. Good luck finding one that does exactly what you want, though.. (Most proxy caches are laid out on the filesystem in a non-human-readable format.) |
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| 22:04.42 | CharminTheMoose | nothing's ever user friendly on linux is it? :) |
| 22:05.03 | jelly-home | CharminTheMoose: some paying things are! |
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| 22:06.38 | CharminTheMoose | hehe |
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| 22:07.03 | CharminTheMoose | so i can't just search my filesystem for any .flv/.swf files? |
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| 22:14.11 | Billionaire | I've a debian unstable, and after an update, my usb mouse doesn't work |
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| 22:15.07 | jkimball4 | If I want to install a default setup, which disks will I need? |
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| 22:16.41 | Billionaire | when move mouse on /dev/input/mice I see data |
| 22:17.58 | xsdg | Billionaire: in X, or console? |
| 22:18.01 | Billionaire | xorg.conf contain driver "mouse" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" |
| 22:18.11 | xsdg | jkimball4: you should do netinstall unless your net connection isn't up to it |
| 22:18.40 | Billionaire | xsdg, I see data from cat /dev/input/mice |
| 22:18.44 | poncha | hi. i have a problem with logrotate+apache. once a week logrotate rotates apache logs. but, once it does that my apache shuts down because the server has long-running requests and the sockets won't free up. is there a way to avoid such a situation? |
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| 22:19.17 | xsdg | Billionaire: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log have anything useful? |
| 22:19.21 | poncha | (logrotate calls /etc/init.d/apache2 restart which implies stop , start ) |
| 22:19.24 | xsdg | Billionaire: also, how are you trying to start X? |
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| 22:19.34 | Billionaire | xsdg, startx |
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| 22:19.45 | xsdg | Billionaire: do you see anything mouse-related on the console? |
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| 22:20.52 | xsdg | Billionaire: alternately, is there anything mouse-related in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
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| 22:21.06 | xsdg | jkimball4: still there? |
| 22:21.08 | Billionaire | xsdg, yes, but not error |
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| 22:21.38 | Billionaire | (**) Mouse2: Device: "/dev/input/mice" |
| 22:21.38 | Billionaire | (**) Mouse2: Protocol: "ImPS/2" |
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| 22:22.15 | Billionaire | xsdg, a moment, I see now this line |
| 22:22.19 | Billionaire | (**) Mouse2: doesn't report core events |
| 22:22.24 | xsdg | Billionaire: ok |
| 22:22.32 | jkimball4 | xsdg: yep. going with your advice |
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| 22:22.57 | jkimball4 | probably better than raping the debian site for the cds anyways |
| 22:23.01 | xsdg | Billionaire: in the "ServerLayout" section, it specifies what devices the layout will use |
| 22:23.12 | xsdg | jkimball4: and better than downloading a bunch of stuff that you won't use |
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| 22:23.21 | jkimball4 | indeed. thanks xsdg |
| 22:23.37 | Billionaire | xsdg, yes |
| 22:23.42 | Billionaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.42 | Billionaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.49 | Billionaire | Mouse1 is touchpad |
| 22:23.57 | Billionaire | Mouse2 usb mouse |
| 22:24.01 | xsdg | Billionaire: what if you change "AlwaysCore" to "SendCoreEvents"? |
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| 22:25.04 | Billionaire | xsdg, try now |
| 22:25.07 | peter_ | is there any easy Howto to install flash on opera? |
| 22:25.20 | Billionaire | xsdg, but I must restart X server |
| 22:25.23 | xsdg | Billionaire: cool |
| 22:25.51 | _Lemon_ | Hey, I'm trying to set up an exim4 server. Currently it catches all e-mail to users, however I want all "unroutable" e-mail to be directed to one particular user instead of getting rid of it (and replying with "unroutable address"). Could anyone point me in the right direction of help (config commands?)? |
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| 22:27.10 | Billionaire | xsdg, it work, thank you |
| 22:27.15 | Billionaire | works |
| 22:27.27 | xsdg | Billionaire: cool; not a problem |
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| 22:34.55 | justifer | I have a bug in my package manager, runing 4.0 r0 etch, where should I take this problem? |
| 22:35.20 | _Adam_ | Hello, I have just installed debian, and webmin. Webmin dosnt load in my browser.... can anyone help? |
| 22:35.43 | stew | justifer: what is the bug? |
| 22:35.45 | gordonjcp | lol webmin |
| 22:36.04 | gordonjcp | or, to put it another way, don't touch webmin with someone else's stolen ten-foot pole |
| 22:36.05 | _Adam_ | cheers :) |
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| 22:36.41 | _Adam_ | now can i try again to get some help :P |
| 22:37.12 | gordonjcp | _Adam_: yes - it's probably going to be quicker and easier to join #warez or something similar and post your root password and IP address |
| 22:37.27 | gordonjcp | that way you can get your box rooted more-or-less right away, instead of having to wait |
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| 22:38.07 | justifer | It asks me to " Please choose the keyboard layout to load at boot time." and gives me a selection of keyboard layouts "Belarusian, Bulgarian BSD, Bulgarian phonetic, Kazakh, Kazakh with letter IOIO, Macedonian, Mongolian, Russian, Russian Winkeys, Serbian, Ukrainian, Ukrainian Winkeys" and that it |
| 22:38.09 | _Adam_ | no thanks, this debian is on a private net |
| 22:38.13 | gordonjcp | if you just install webmin and leave it at that, you could be waiting for hours for a rootkit |
| 22:38.30 | justifer | No US layout |
| 22:38.45 | gordonjcp | you might have guessed that I don't have a high opinion of webmin's security |
| 22:39.01 | _Adam_ | i am detecting a small dislike :) |
| 22:39.23 | kestaz | who has django book (apress) share it with 3rd world .. pm me |
| 22:39.48 | kestaz | django is web framework.... |
| 22:40.08 | gordonjcp | !django |
| 22:40.17 | kestaz | i need that book |
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| 22:40.53 | gordonjcp | kestaz: I don't want to be one of those "jfgi" people, but have you tried google? |
| 22:41.12 | kestaz | gordonjcp: tryed .. 2 h spent for it |
| 22:41.24 | _Adam_ | Hello, I have just installed debian, and webmin. Webmin dosnt load in my browser.... can anyone help? |
| 22:41.29 | kestaz | but without luck |
| 22:41.34 | gordonjcp | kestaz: what exactly did you google for? |
| 22:41.58 | kestaz | The Definitive Guide to Django warez |
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| 22:42.12 | kestaz | django pdf apress |
| 22:42.14 | gordonjcp | not, for instance "django book"? |
| 22:42.33 | kestaz | django pdf |
| 22:42.34 | peter_ | OK.... how to install flash on Opera? |
| 22:43.01 | gordonjcp | kestaz: try google |
| 22:43.12 | kestaz | definitive guide django ebook pdf index of |
| 22:43.38 | kestaz | gordonjcp: i need pdf of apress book .. not beta version of book |
| 22:43.50 | gordonjcp | kestaz: then buy the book |
| 22:44.04 | stew | kestaz: that book is not free |
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| 22:44.33 | simonrvn | kestaz: we don't do warez here. please fuck off |
| 22:44.40 | dserban | Hmm, is there a channel to discuss what I can find in debian-multimedia? |
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| 22:44.47 | dserban | ie, I know it's not here ;) |
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| 22:46.09 | peter_ | ok ;) how to install .deb file ? |
| 22:46.17 | gordonjcp | dpkg |
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| 22:47.36 | mrrcp | anyone here use squid |
| 22:47.37 | mrrcp | ? |
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| 22:48.03 | stew | mrrcp: there are definately squid users here |
| 22:48.04 | asg | many do, do you have a specific question about it that is debian related and not covered by #squid? |
| 22:48.18 | yos87 | stew: Hi |
| 22:49.03 | mrrcp | what is the better package squid or squid 3 |
| 22:49.05 | mrrcp | ? |
| 22:49.50 | asg | mrrcp: squid 3 is a newer version that is not as tested as squid 2.x. What version of Debian are you running? |
| 22:49.59 | stew | yos87: hi |
| 22:50.08 | mrrcp | asg current version |
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| 22:50.23 | asg | mrrcp: the current stable version doesn't contain squid3 |
| 22:50.30 | mrrcp | hmm |
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| 22:50.48 | mrrcp | how can i see what version im using |
| 22:50.55 | mrrcp | Linux rpserver 2.6.18-5-486 |
| 22:50.58 | asg | mrrcp: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:51.15 | mrrcp | 4.0 |
| 22:51.18 | pumpkin0 | i want to install a second, very barebones debian etch on my normal debian etch system (for testing). The second system will contain a subset of the already installed packages. What's the best way ? debbootstrap into a folder, then use the deb-cache under /var/.. ? Or is there a fast and easy way to get the same system minus alle packages i block ? |
| 22:51.23 | mrrcp | should i upgrade? |
| 22:51.24 | asg | mrrcp: apt-cache policy squid3 |
| 22:51.48 | mrrcp | Candidate: 3.0.PRE5-5 |
| 22:51.48 | mrrcp | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.48 | mrrcp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:52.23 | asg | mrrcp: paste your sources.lst in a pastebin, you definitely have some non-stable stuff |
| 22:52.26 | spx2 | hi |
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| 22:52.42 | spx2 | I have question regarding Debian |
| 22:52.47 | spx2 | I got a hold of a server |
| 22:52.54 | spx2 | Compaq Proliant DL380 |
| 22:53.02 | mrrcp | hmm what do u mean |
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| 22:53.05 | Blackhold | hello |
| 22:53.11 | spx2 | 2*933mhz,1024mb ram,2*18GB hdd SCSI |
| 22:53.16 | spx2 | what debian should I put on it ? |
| 22:53.19 | Blackhold | how could I see the temperature of processor using console? |
| 22:53.26 | pumpkin0 | spx2: etch/stable. |
| 22:53.36 | asg | mrrcp: /msg dpkg paster (paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list in there) |
| 22:54.14 | pumpkin0 | Blackhold: depends on the system and drivers. Try "cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature" |
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| 22:54.30 | spx2 | Blackhold, cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZCR/temperature over here |
| 22:54.38 | spx2 | pumpkin0, ok... |
| 22:54.40 | mrrcp | http://pastebin.com/m2910c770 |
| 22:54.56 | spx2 | pumpkin0, thanks |
| 22:55.23 | pumpkin0 | spx2: most people starting with debian should stick to stable. And the system is fast enough to run any debian, so ... |
| 22:55.40 | jelly-home | spx2: if you're going to use it as a server, stable |
| 22:55.48 | spx2 | jelly, thanks |
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| 22:56.15 | spx2 | pumpkin0, I'm going to look for a cd image on ftp.lug.ro(it's near to me) |
| 22:56.26 | stew | pumpkin0: are you asking about how to get a list of packages? or how to get them installed? or what? |
| 22:56.34 | stew | pumpkin0: you might want /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
| 22:56.42 | pumpkin0 | spx2: get a netinstall-iso and download the rest on-the-fly. It is way faster |
| 22:56.49 | pumpkin0 | stew: thanks. |
| 22:56.50 | asg | mrrcp: okay, my mistake, squid3 is available in etch. You can use either and probably should look to use squid3. |
| 22:57.41 | jelly-home | spx2: we run Debian on DL320, DL360 and DL380 machines, newer generations though (G3 - G5) |
| 22:57.50 | asg | mrrcp: if it turns out to be unstable or unreliable, the regular squid 2.x package in etch should work just fine. I'm handling over 1.5 million requests per day on mine. |
| 22:57.58 | spx2 | jelly, I'm G1 |
| 22:58.33 | spx2 | pumpkin0, http://ftp.lug.ro/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso <-- is this good ? |
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| 22:59.18 | pumpkin0 | spx2: no idea about the server, but the file looks good. |
| 23:00.07 | spx2 | pumpkin0, so where will the install ask me if I want etch/stable or anything else ? |
| 23:00.16 | pumpkin0 | stew: if i remove package A from that list and package B depends on A. What happens to B ? |
| 23:00.38 | pumpkin0 | spx2: that iso always installs stable/etch. (stable == etch richt now) |
| 23:00.47 | pumpkin0 | s/richt/right/ |
| 23:01.39 | jelly-home | !tell my007ms -about away |
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| 23:02.57 | _abc_ | ehm. what package contains the basic gcc wrapper ? I installed gcc-4.1 but the main gcc is not on. What am I missing ? |
| 23:03.15 | stew | pumpkin0: if you remove package A from the list and package B depends on A then A gets installed anyway |
| 23:03.30 | Ezep | _abc_: build-essential |
| 23:03.47 | _abc_ | Ezep, thanks, I'll try that |
| 23:03.56 | Ezep | np |
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| 23:04.24 | pumpkin0 | stew: thanks. Can i use the same deb-cache for both installs? |
| 23:04.55 | spx2 | pumpkin0, is there something else that I should know about having a server ? |
| 23:05.00 | spx2 | pumpkin0, attacks etc ? |
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| 23:05.43 | stew | pumpkin0: /var/cache/apt/archives? or what do you mean? |
| 23:05.57 | pumpkin0 | spx2: put it behind a NAT, do not run unneeded servers, use good passwords and get all updates from security. |
| 23:05.59 | stew | pumpkin0: if so then yes |
| 23:06.11 | pumpkin0 | steve: thanks a lot, i'm off installing. |
| 23:06.52 | spx2 | pumpkin0, how do I get updates from security ? |
| 23:07.03 | spx2 | pumpkin0, I have a switch In here,is it ok if I put it behind that ? |
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| 23:07.54 | _abc_ | Ezep, that package seems to be related to building deb packages |
| 23:07.58 | _abc_ | no ? |
| 23:08.07 | pumpkin0 | spx2: after you finished installing: add his line "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list. And read this: http://www.debian.org/security/ |
| 23:08.11 | Ezep | yes... in a way _abc_ |
| 23:08.14 | karmatronic | spx2: run a "server" if you need a service , that would be my advice |
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| 23:09.01 | Ezep | _abc_: brb |
| 23:09.09 | pumpkin0 | spx2: switch ? Like a normal of-the-mill Ethernet switch or a WLAN-router (things that connects multiple PCs to the internet) ? |
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| 23:11.19 | eth01 | how can i protect connections coming into my LAN from the WAN, firewall? |
| 23:11.41 | spx2 | pumpkin0, I don't know if there's lots of types of switch,I just have this little box with a cable plug in and it got 4 slots for cables comming out,nothing fancy |
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| 23:12.07 | dondelelcaro | eth01: that's the general method, yes. |
| 23:12.21 | eth01 | what could i use exactly? |
| 23:13.14 | dondelelcaro | the ipmasq package contains generic rules to do it; any good firewall which can set up NAT will do it as well. |
| 23:13.47 | eth01 | i was thinking dedicated hardware, dondelelcaro |
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| 23:13.59 | pumpkin0 | spx2: that should be a normal ethernet switch. It does not protect the server in any way. NATs block nearly everything from the outside (but from inside to outside works out-of-the-box). The only way from outside to the inside is a exception/rule configured in the NAT. |
| 23:14.35 | pumpkin0 | eth01: how do you connect to the internet ? |
| 23:14.39 | eth01 | cable |
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| 23:15.02 | pumpkin0 | eth01: cable router or modem ? (one PC or more PCs connected to the cable ?) |
| 23:15.02 | dondelelcaro | eth01: a linux box can be dedicated hardware too; there's not much difference. |
| 23:15.21 | dondelelcaro | (it's just a question of the architecture and what OS the router is running) |
| 23:15.24 | eth01 | well, it goes from a cable modem, to the router, which then goes to a switch ... |
| 23:15.29 | eth01 | no protection whatsoever ;) |
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| 23:16.02 | eth01 | hrm, i'd rather invest money on dedicated hardware not an old tacky comp with 2 nics |
| 23:16.19 | pumpkin0 | eth01: a normal cable-router is a NAT. It is a effective protection against most outside -> inside things. Get one. |
| 23:16.48 | dondelelcaro | eth01: well, the advantage of an old computer is that it can do way more complicated things than your average COTS equipment. |
| 23:17.02 | Claudio32m | why do they make 64 bit versions of the linux OS anyways? i thought linux could natively access > 4GB RAM |
| 23:17.15 | dondelelcaro | Claudio32m: it can, but a single application cannot. |
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| 23:17.20 | eth01 | i've got a normal cable-router, it does wireless too =p |
| 23:17.21 | Claudio32m | cool thanks |
| 23:17.29 | eth01 | the protection it offers, is somewhat naff/craq. |
| 23:17.37 | dondelelcaro | Claudio32m: it has more to do with what the architecture and CPU instruction set can address, not so much the OS. |
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| 23:17.44 | Claudio32m | dondelelcaro - so the OS itself can access > 4 GB |
| 23:17.54 | pumpkin0 | eth01: it has a NAT. Noone can attack you directly anyway. |
| 23:17.55 | dondelelcaro | Claudio32m: by various tricks, yes. |
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| 23:18.16 | \amethyst | Claudio32m: 1. in 64-bit mode, you have more registers |
| 23:18.17 | eth01 | pumpkin0, thats not true. i have been attacked. |
| 23:18.28 | pumpkin0 | eth01: how = |
| 23:18.32 | \amethyst | Claudio32m: 2. accessing over 4GB of RAM is much more straightforward |
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| 23:18.39 | dondelelcaro | \amethyst: that really depends on the architecture |
| 23:18.49 | Claudio32m | would you still access it using offsets and segments? |
| 23:19.04 | dondelelcaro | Claudio32m: no, you address it directly if you're using a 64 bit setup. |
| 23:19.08 | eth01 | pumpkin0, not too sure. I guess, syn flood/DoS |
| 23:19.10 | Claudio32m | okay |
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| 23:19.41 | pumpkin0 | eth01: so somebody DoS'ed the router ? That will happen even if you install a second NAT/firewall. |
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| 23:19.58 | Mordbrann | how does one change the timezone on a Debian system these days? |
| 23:20.08 | jelly-home | !timezone |
| 23:20.08 | dpkg | it has been said that timezone is "ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/<timezone> /etc/localtime", or tzconfig, or or tzselect after etch |
| 23:20.18 | eth01 | pumpkin0, i'm simply looking for 'more protection', that's all. |
| 23:20.26 | Mordbrann | ty jelly-home |
| 23:20.29 | \amethyst | Claudio32m: dondelelcaro I thought the question was about amd64, my bad |
| 23:20.29 | Knight_Lord | I've got a very strange problem. For some reason since a few days ago I cannot ssh to my work server anymore. SSH gets stuck at debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received, that is just before debug1: Authentications that can continue:. Does anyone have any guesses? |
| 23:20.40 | pumpkin0 | eth01: unplug the cable or buy a better cable-router. |
| 23:21.43 | pumpkin0 | eth01: or use a pure cable-modem and a normal PC for NAT-work. |
| 23:22.08 | Mordbrann | hmmm. tzselect doesn't actually change anything and wants me to change my .profile to have an effect |
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| 23:23.01 | jelly-home | !info lmms sid |
| 23:23.02 | \amethyst | Mordbrann: and tzselect tells you what to do: "Note that tzselect will not actually change the timezone for you. Use ’dpkg-reconfigure tzdata’ to achieve this." |
| 23:23.06 | dpkg | lmms: (Linux Multimedia Studio), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.3.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2535 kB, Installed size: 6332 kB |
| 23:23.32 | AztlanKid | ISLE OF MAN - June 1, 2006 - At a press conference today, Canonical CEO and Free Software spokesnigger Mark Shuttleworth announced the immediate availability of version 6.06 of the Ubuntu Linux distribution. The latest version, known by its code name, "The Diaper Drake," includes special features designed to make Linux easier and more comfortable for niggers the world over. |
| 23:23.37 | Mordbrann | \amethyst: strange, mine never gives me that message |
| 23:23.49 | jelly-home | AztlanKid: what? |
| 23:23.49 | \amethyst | Mordbrann: what version of debian? |
| 23:24.01 | \amethyst | Mordbrann: if it's etch or older, try tzconfig instead |
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| 23:24.12 | jelly-home | !ops AztlanKid trolling for GNAA |
| 23:24.12 | Mordbrann | lenny/sid; tzconfig does not exist |
| 23:24.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly-home complains about: AztlanKid trolling for GNAA |
| 23:24.25 | nathan | where can I get debian lenny 64-bit dvd iso? |
| 23:24.30 | AztlanKid | "Niggers have always had trouble understanding new technology," Shuttleworth began. "Computers are no exception. Some people have said this is because niggers are dumb, but I believe the real problem is that technology has traditionally been designed for white people. Ubuntu changes all that. It was developed from the ground up with niggers in mind. It will usher in a whole new era of Afro-ergonomic computing." |
| 23:24.36 | \amethyst | Mordbrann: and the tzselect man page doesn't have that message? |
| 23:24.40 | AztlanKid | Shuttleworth presented an overview of some of the features users could expect in the latest version of Ubuntu, including an Ebonics-to-English converter, African "tribal beats" sound and desktop theme, and a collection of rap music and gay pornography, "which of course will be encoded using patent and royalty-free formats," Shuttleworth added, smiling. He proceeded to elaborate, but OpenOffice.org Impress crashed a |
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| 23:25.04 | nathan | pastebin your racist stuff please |
| 23:25.23 | jelly-home | s/pastebin/shut the .* hole, rather/ |
| 23:25.42 | jelly-home | nathan: it's not racist, the primary purpose is trolling |
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| 23:25.54 | eth01 | why pastebin it either :/ |
| 23:26.01 | \amethyst | If you're trolling using ethnic slurs, I'd call that racist |
| 23:26.06 | Mordbrann | \amethyst: it does, odd place to place that message though |
| 23:26.42 | dondelelcaro | nathan: there's no real point to getting isos of testing. |
| 23:26.56 | peter_ | hm... can someone guide me through installation flash on opera ? |
| 23:26.58 | nathan | well where can I get the install |
| 23:27.05 | dondelelcaro | !debian-installer |
| 23:27.05 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. |
| 23:27.23 | jelly-home | peter_: have you installed flashplugin-nonfree, for starters? |
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| 23:28.03 | nathan | [[ `!debian-installer` | grep lenny ]] || echo "doesn't mention it" |
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| 23:28.46 | dondelelcaro | nathan: why would it? |
| 23:28.47 | jelly-home | nathan: um, install stable base, then upgrade? |
| 23:28.52 | peter_ | jelly-home, I have installed flashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:28.56 | nathan | is there no other way? |
| 23:29.06 | dondelelcaro | nathan: it mentions the URL where the development version of the installer is located. |
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| 23:29.18 | nathan | dondelelcaro: please click it, you will find a surprise |
| 23:29.35 | pumpkin0 | dondelelcaro: but it still thinks sarge = stable and etch = testing. |
| 23:29.44 | dondelelcaro | nathan: I obviously double checked before I told you that it mentions it. |
| 23:30.00 | dondelelcaro | nathan: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ <-- visit, and accheive enlightenment. |
| 23:30.00 | nathan | so you see there is nothing under amd64 |
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| 23:30.17 | nathan | wow! it still has nothing for amd64! I feel holy |
| 23:30.18 | jelly-home | peter_: do you also have iceweasel installed on the system? If yes, just add /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins to Opera's plugin path |
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| 23:31.05 | peter_ | jelly-home, the problem is that opera has already added /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree and /usr/lib/flash-plugin |
| 23:31.07 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 23:31.12 | abrotman | seems to have stuff |
| 23:31.17 | dondelelcaro | nathan: what do you think http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ is? |
| 23:31.25 | robboplus_ | hm... WARNING: `aclocal-1.4' is needed, and you do not seem to have it handy... <--can't find this package, is it in etch repository? |
| 23:31.39 | troubled | robboplus_: hey you :) |
| 23:31.41 | nathan | thanks! |
| 23:31.48 | robboplus_ | heyy troubled! |
| 23:31.55 | abrotman | nathan: still feel holy? |
| 23:32.00 | jelly-home | peter_: oh, well it ought to work then after you restart Opera and enable plugins |
| 23:32.01 | nathan | that's the link; the one you gave me before leads to this: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 23:32.03 | \amethyst | robboplus_: do you have build-essential installed? |
| 23:32.04 | robboplus_ | troubled: been a while damn it :) |
| 23:32.09 | troubled | :) |
| 23:32.12 | abrotman | nathan: that's iso-dvd ... |
| 23:32.15 | dondelelcaro | nathan: uh... no. Try reading the top part of the page again. |
| 23:32.16 | robboplus_ | amethyst thank you, checking |
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| 23:32.24 | nathan | and this: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 23:32.24 | Knight_Lord | Any brave soul willing to help me with my ssh problem? |
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| 23:32.25 | jelly-home | peter_: I don't have /usr/lib/flash-plugin though |
| 23:32.40 | \amethyst | robboplus_: ah, actually, looks like automake1.4 is what you need |
| 23:32.51 | dondelelcaro | nathan: those are the weekly builds. Read the first paragraph. The bit that has "daily built images" in bold. |
| 23:32.52 | Jyzygzel- | how do i add myself to a group? |
| 23:32.57 | abrotman | nathan: and those are weekly builds |
| 23:32.58 | ponyofdeath | hi, where do i specify the root password for dbconfig-common? |
| 23:32.59 | dondelelcaro | Jyzygzel-: adduser user group. |
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| 23:33.01 | robboplus_ | amethyst i added the build-essential but in fact it didn't help |
| 23:33.18 | nathan | dondelelcaro: saying to read it 'again' suggests I read it the first time =] |
| 23:33.20 | peter_ | jelly-home, it doseant metter ? |
| 23:33.30 | nathan | thanks for your help everyone =] my bad |
| 23:33.31 | robboplus_ | amethyst: but... automake is already the newest version. |
| 23:33.43 | Jyzygzel- | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 343611 2007-12-15 01:32 access.log |
| 23:33.46 | peter_ | jelly-home, I mean if there flashplugin-nonfree path ? |
| 23:33.49 | \amethyst | robboplus_: aclocal-1.4 isn't from the newest version |
| 23:33.49 | Jyzygzel- | now if i belong to adm group |
| 23:33.52 | Tramp | Knight_Lord: I had a look - but no idea. Did you try with -vvv (debug3)? Is the client hanging or does it quit? |
| 23:33.55 | troubled | robboplus_: automake? please tell me this isnt mangos related :) |
| 23:33.55 | Jyzygzel- | shoouldn't i be able to read that |
| 23:34.00 | abrotman | maybe they should put a note up "no weekly builds" |
| 23:34.07 | robboplus_ | troubled lol |
| 23:34.09 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: well, they're there for some architectures |
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| 23:34.18 | troubled | robboplus_: serious, is it? |
| 23:34.18 | abrotman | just not for i386 or amd64 ? |
| 23:34.22 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: the client hangs on the line i showed. I'm using -vvv |
| 23:34.23 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: i386 has them |
| 23:34.24 | \amethyst | robboplus_: autotools has had a history of poor backwards compatibility, so a lot of programs require a specific version |
| 23:34.26 | robboplus_ | amethyst: do you suggest downgrading then? |
| 23:34.28 | abrotman | oh .. i386 is there now |
| 23:34.32 | robboplus_ | troubled of course it is not :) |
| 23:34.34 | abrotman | weird .. last i checked it was empty .. oh well |
| 23:34.38 | \amethyst | robboplus_: you don't need to downgrade |
| 23:34.42 | troubled | robboplus_: whew, ok. just checking ;) l8r |
| 23:34.50 | jelly-home | peter_: I have no idea if Opera handles nonexisting directories in a sensible way |
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| 23:34.55 | robboplus_ | troubled he he |
| 23:34.57 | \amethyst | robboplus_: you can have the automake1.4 and automake packages installed at the same time |
| 23:35.01 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: i also tried removing the .ssh on both sides |
| 23:35.02 | abrotman | heh .. it's just amd64 that's missing |
| 23:35.07 | robboplus_ | troubled 2.3.0 tmw btw ;) |
| 23:35.20 | peter_ | jelly-home, ok, meaby I will try to add new path. But how to do that? |
| 23:35.36 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: and this is not something like ssh taking a while to start because of name resolution because i already waited for more than 15 minutes |
| 23:35.41 | jelly-home | peter_: you don't need to if you have /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree in there. |
| 23:35.44 | nathan | they need a bot that when you do !opera it says 'if you want to know about opera, ask paul potts; this is #debian' |
| 23:35.45 | \amethyst | don't you get support from the Opera folks? |
| 23:35.51 | robboplus_ | amethyst hm... i just added automake1.4 and still aclocal is missing.. isn't it ridiculous? :) |
| 23:36.09 | \amethyst | robboplus_: what are you compiling, exactly? |
| 23:36.10 | nathan | get it? get it? bam! that one was free |
| 23:36.21 | jelly-home | peter_: Preferences -> Advanced -> Content -> Plug-in Options |
| 23:36.21 | robboplus_ | amethyst it's a portfwd source |
| 23:36.28 | \amethyst | robboplus_: and what is the error exactly? |
| 23:36.39 | Tramp | Knight_Lord: Since you appear to have access to the server-side as well, I could suggest using -d for the sshd, to see if it gives someting useful. But this problem seems so weird that I doubt it would help. |
| 23:36.48 | jelly-home | peter_: verify that plugins are enabled at all |
| 23:36.49 | \amethyst | robboplus_: a minute ago you said something about aclocal-1.4, but now you said just aclocal |
| 23:36.50 | abrotman | !tell nathan about opera |
| 23:36.50 | robboplus_ | amethyst: cd . && /root/pfwd/portfwd-0.29/config/missing aclocal-1.4 |
| 23:36.51 | robboplus_ | WARNING: `aclocal-1.4' is needed, and you do not seem to have it handy |
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| 23:36.55 | abrotman | !tell nathan about opera apt |
| 23:37.01 | robboplus_ | amethyst: the full msg is like 6 lines long |
| 23:37.26 | robboplus_ | amethyst but the conclusion is that aclocal-1.4 "program" is missing |
| 23:37.28 | \amethyst | robboplus_: do you have the program 'aclocal-1.4' now? |
| 23:37.28 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: even more interesting, if I change to root on the locasthost and do ssh user@server it works! |
| 23:37.39 | \amethyst | robboplus_: you might need to remove config.cache or something like that |
| 23:37.46 | Tramp | Knight_Lord: and since the Layer3/4 seems ok, tcpdumping the connection will probably also not help probably |
| 23:37.50 | robboplus_ | amethyst just typed in aclocal-1.4 and yes, it's in the path |
| 23:38.00 | robboplus_ | # aclocal-1.4 --help |
| 23:38.00 | robboplus_ | Usage: aclocal [OPTIONS] ... |
| 23:38.07 | Tramp | Knight_Lord: hmm. You say ssh client works for root but not for user then= |
| 23:38.14 | \amethyst | robboplus_: can you put the entire command and output in a pastebin |
| 23:38.16 | \amethyst | ? |
| 23:38.16 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: exactly |
| 23:38.23 | robboplus_ | amethyst of course, 1 sec |
| 23:38.24 | peter_ | jelly-home, yes, there is Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115 |
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| 23:39.24 | robboplus_ | \amethyst: http://pastebin.ca/816766 |
| 23:39.25 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: actually it only doesn't work with a particular user |
| 23:39.32 | jelly-home | peter_: so? |
| 23:39.59 | \amethyst | err |
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| 23:40.10 | \amethyst | robboplus_: maybe you need to run ./configure first? |
| 23:40.11 | robboplus_ | \amethyst wow... i did configure again and it worked this time on make! |
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| 23:40.19 | \amethyst | robboplus_: aha |
| 23:40.24 | robboplus_ | \amethyst i did before... had no idea that i needed to do that again.. |
| 23:40.32 | Tramp | Knight_Lord: hmm. This looks really like an application-level thing then. |
| 23:40.47 | arrenlex | Hey guys. Quick question. I wanted to make some changes to the kopete source, so I downloaded the kdenetwork package from the package page, made some changes to kopete and compiled it. What's the easiest way to make kopete into a debian package from this state? I don't need any of the other many utilities in kdenetwork, by the way. |
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| 23:40.50 | robboplus_ | \amethyst thanks very much... |
| 23:40.54 | \amethyst | Knight_Lord: ssh to a particular user fails? can the user log in locally? |
| 23:40.58 | Tramp | Knight_Lord: Restrictions for this user in the sshd_config? |
| 23:41.18 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: no. ssh from a particular user just freezes |
| 23:41.28 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: looks client side problem |
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| 23:41.53 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: but i remove .ssh and login scripts so i have no idea what it could be |
| 23:41.54 | fundesktop | how can I modify the list of packages that are removed by "apt-get autoremove"? |
| 23:42.21 | Tramp | Knight_Lord: Try running sshd -d on the server |
| 23:42.51 | shamrock | Any emacs users here had any problems since the last emacs22 update in lenny? |
| 23:43.27 | abrotman | shamrock: bugs.debian.org |
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| 23:46.44 | Knight_Lord | Tramp: on the server it gets stalled at debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received |
| 23:46.44 | Knight_Lord | debug1: KEX done |
| 23:46.59 | Knight_Lord | On the client at debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth |
| 23:46.59 | Knight_Lord | debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received |
| 23:47.05 | ponyofdeath | hi, where do i change the root password for dbconfig-common to use? It is not promting me for the root password any more? |
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| 23:47.58 | mrrcp | how do i get my TIME/DATE out of MIL TIME? into 12 hr format? |
| 23:48.31 | abrotman | samples? |
| 23:48.35 | peter_ | jelly-home, they are enabled |
| 23:48.47 | dondelelcaro | mrrcp: pick a locale which keeps its time in that format |
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| 23:48.57 | dondelelcaro | (though frankly, 12 hour time is silly) |
| 23:49.27 | dondelelcaro | (or set LC_TIME) |
| 23:49.34 | \amethyst | dondelelcaro: set it to what? |
| 23:49.44 | mrrcp | ? |
| 23:49.46 | mrrcp | eh |
| 23:49.53 | \amethyst | I would think en_US would use 12-hour time if anything does, but it doesn't seem to |
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| 23:50.03 | lavaramano | hello |
| 23:50.31 | mrrcp | how can i see what time zone im using? |
| 23:50.37 | \amethyst | mrrcp: Are you talking about the output of the 'date' program, the GNOME taskbar, or something else |
| 23:50.50 | \amethyst | `date' should show you the time zone |
| 23:51.05 | mrrcp | hmm |
| 23:51.07 | lavaramano | im building a debian package and everything works fine, except when i check this .deb lintian /says/ that the file in debian/conffiles doesnt exist |
| 23:51.12 | lavaramano | any ideas? |
| 23:51.15 | abrotman | i'm still trying to figure out how you get date out of military time |
| 23:51.31 | mrrcp | its wrong its showing 23:50 ... how can i get ntpd to auto update durning boot or somthing |
| 23:51.38 | \amethyst | abrotman: date +%r |
| 23:51.48 | abrotman | \amethyst: time .. |
| 23:51.53 | \amethyst | mrrcp: what time zone are you in |
| 23:51.58 | jelly-home | peter_: I have i386, Opera 9.21, Flash 9.0.48 and it mostly works. |
| 23:51.59 | \amethyst | abrotman: huh? |
| 23:52.04 | abrotman | if i give you 22:56 .. what is the date? |
| 23:52.08 | \amethyst | oh |
| 23:52.31 | Tramp | Knight_Lord: hmm. ok. Last idea I have is to strace the client and see if it hangs or polls something |
| 23:52.37 | \amethyst | abrotman: I think he was using "out of" in a different way |
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| 23:52.49 | abrotman | in a way that makes no sense :) |
| 23:53.03 | jelly-home | peter_: you'll have to ask the Opera people for support if there newest one doesn't work for you. It's not in the distro, so Debian doesn't support it. |
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| 23:53.05 | mrrcp | CST |
| 23:53.08 | abrotman | mrrcp: where are you getting your "time" from, and what's the format? |
| 23:53.19 | peter_ | jelly-home, ok thanks for help |
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| 23:53.29 | mrrcp | its in 24 hour format but wrong |
| 23:53.31 | mrrcp | on squid |
| 23:53.32 | jelly-home | their* |
| 23:53.36 | abrotman | mrrcp: but wrong? |
| 23:53.45 | abrotman | mrrcp: can you show us a sample? or tell us why it's wrong? |
| 23:53.46 | mrrcp | Generated Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:51:43 GMT |
| 23:53.57 | mrrcp | its 17:51 |
| 23:53.59 | dondelelcaro | \amethyst: its dependent on the locale settings; I've no idea what they're set to now. |
| 23:54.00 | mrrcp | here |
| 23:54.04 | abrotman | mrrcp: it is not! :) |
| 23:54.07 | mrrcp | i need to change to time zone in squid |
| 23:54.17 | abrotman | mrrcp: squid is on UTC and you're not? |
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| 23:54.26 | drwahl_ | i just purchased a logitech Pro 9000 webcam and would like to get it working. i install linux-uvc-sourc linux-uvc-tools and luvcviewer and i have no luck getting video. any ideas? |
| 23:54.28 | mrrcp | gmt correct |
| 23:54.40 | jelly-home | abrotman: GMT != UTC |
| 23:54.47 | abrotman | jelly-home: i didn't say that! |
| 23:54.51 | abrotman | oh . it says gmt |
| 23:54.54 | abrotman | goofy |
| 23:54.59 | jelly-home | yes. |
| 23:55.06 | abrotman | i thought it was UTC .. i know they aren't the same |
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| 23:55.35 | jelly-home | mrrcp: it you're on east coast, that timestamp is ok |
| 23:55.53 | mrrcp | GMT i am CST |
| 23:55.59 | jelly-home | mrrcp: so? |
| 23:56.19 | abrotman | i think he wants it to be CST |
| 23:56.19 | jelly-home | it's still a correct timestamp. |
| 23:56.21 | dondelelcaro | date is kind of odd; if you specify an invalid timezone, it gives you UTC, but shows the zone anyway. |
| 23:56.47 | Jozsiahegyrol | mrrcp: squid always shows the time in gmt |
| 23:56.50 | dondelelcaro | so things like TZ=GMT date; are rather amusing. |
| 23:57.25 | jelly-home | http headers only have to be correct, not human-friendly |
| 23:57.46 | abrotman | the internet sucks! |
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| 23:58.32 | jelly-home | it blows, too. It's bidirectional. |
| 23:58.33 | abrotman | hey hey .. the world magic awards are on tonight ... |
| 23:59.15 | jelly-home | WMA? |
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