| 00:00.00 | zmitya | yes, everything what you are using , will be compiled into the kernel and just those modules |
| 00:00.12 | Ace2016 | but gentoo peeps know way more than me about this stuff |
| 00:00.24 | snogglethorpe | hey anyone know a good irc channel for 3d graphics stuff? |
| 00:00.44 | Ace2016 | snogglethorpe: designing? |
| 00:00.55 | snogglethorpe | i have a quesiton about matrix transforms |
| 00:01.18 | snogglethorpe | on netnews, comp.graphics.algorithms has some excellent people |
| 00:01.27 | snogglethorpe | but for simpler questions, irc seems better... |
| 00:01.48 | Ace2016 | get up the channel list and have a look |
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| 00:02.24 | snogglethorpe | hmm unfortunately the /list command tends to hang emacs half the time... |
| 00:02.36 | snogglethorpe | is there an up-to-date online version somewhere? |
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| 00:04.33 | samantha17 | I'm going to do an installation of Debian Lenny using the net installer sometime this weekend. I have used dm-crypt to encrypt my only hdd. When I perform the installation, will I be able to easily change the dm-crypt passphrase to a more secure one than what I have set now if I already know the current passphrase? |
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| 00:06.57 | maddash | yes. |
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| 00:07.44 | samantha17 | maddash: That's a yes to my question hunny? |
| 00:08.00 | maddash | yes. |
| 00:08.31 | enouf | zmitya: don't know if this helps ya, but dm, dm-raid is in the kernel md, mdadm is not (AFAIK) |
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| 00:09.11 | zmitya | enouf: mdadm is a user space tool isn't it ? |
| 00:09.25 | enouf | justifer: i think that funkiness is called letterboxing, or similar, one sec |
| 00:09.32 | enouf | zmitya: sure is |
| 00:09.51 | zmitya | so it sould not cause the boot problem I think |
| 00:11.00 | zmitya | I copied the .config from the original kernel, did a make oldconfig, added my stuff (grsec, etc..) compiled in raid1 and reiserfs but it does not boot :( |
| 00:11.16 | enouf | justifer: see http://www.inter-locale.com/whitepaper/learn/learn_to_type.html#configUnix for ovrall info, but you're likely missing some fonts, or your locales are not in order, try "/msg dpkg locales" |
| 00:12.07 | enouf | zmitya: the kernel needs to mount a rootfs, and if /dev/md0 is it, you'll need prior support, afaict |
| 00:12.53 | zmitya | yes, the rootfs is on /dev/md0, but what is prior support ? |
| 00:13.08 | zmitya | is it a kernel module/feature ? |
| 00:13.10 | enouf | zmitya: an initrd ;-) |
| 00:13.26 | samantha17 | maddash: check pm |
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| 00:14.09 | enouf | zmitya: see http://lxr.linux.no/linux/Documentation/early-userspace/ and a few related initrd/initramfs docs up one level |
| 00:14.09 | zmitya | hmm, I had a 2.6.17 kernel without initrd, it did boot with the same environment |
| 00:14.25 | zmitya | did they changed this since 2.6.17 ? |
| 00:14.30 | zmitya | ok, checking that |
| 00:14.58 | enouf | zmitya: hrm, doesn't make sensem perhaps / was separated from /boot then |
| 00:15.03 | W1ZrD | How can I get multiple (sub)folders to get the read/write/execute for one user? |
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| 00:16.02 | zmitya | enouf: no, /boot was included in the / partition, was not separated |
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| 00:16.47 | enouf | zmitya: you got me then - there are mdadm debian docs on git |
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| 00:17.50 | zmitya | enouf: ok, going to check some docs on the topic, I just thought that sy ran this already |
| 00:17.55 | enouf | zmitya: maybe you also had dm support in that kernel |
| 00:18.02 | zmitya | what is dm ? |
| 00:18.10 | enouf | device-mapper |
| 00:18.19 | zmitya | hmm |
| 00:18.27 | zmitya | maybe you are right |
| 00:18.39 | zmitya | the original kernel uses dm too |
| 00:19.01 | zmitya | ok, checking the .config |
| 00:19.04 | zmitya | for dm |
| 00:20.57 | enouf | dmraid - Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool |
| 00:20.57 | enouf | dmsetup - The Linux Kernel Device Mapper userspace library |
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| 00:22.12 | maddash | http://www.switched.com/2007/12/10/boy-saves-sister-from-moose-attack-with-skills-learned-in-warcra/ |
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| 00:22.39 | zmitya | enouf: you are right I think |
| 00:23.09 | enouf | zmitya: well, if it helps, great ;-) |
| 00:23.14 | zmitya | dm_mod is compiled as a module, but I don't load it in the modules.conf |
| 00:23.38 | zmitya | I have saved the lsmod output with the distro kernel, and dm_mod was loaded and used |
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| 00:23.58 | rcbarnes | what's that project that puts a modern kernel in etch installers |
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| 00:35.42 | phogg | is mplayer in Debian now? How did I miss this happening? Were the licensing issues finally cleared up? |
| 00:36.10 | rcbarnes | phogg: the mplayer in Debian's got patented tech compiled out |
| 00:36.35 | phogg | rcbarnes: ahh, I see |
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| 00:38.33 | expose | rcbarnes: it's called kernel.org and requires a shell ;-) |
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| 00:39.47 | wols | !tell rcbarnes about backports |
| 00:39.51 | karmatronic | ok this avant-managaer is too cool ! |
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| 00:40.16 | ejungle | I need help with amule |
| 00:40.19 | rcbarnes | expose: har har |
| 00:40.28 | ejungle | I'm newbie of debian lenny |
| 00:40.30 | wols | karmatronic: what's so cool about it? |
| 00:40.33 | ejungle | coming from ubuntu |
| 00:40.45 | wols | rcbarnes: dpkg gave you the answer |
| 00:41.01 | karmatronic | wols: dock bar with zoom effects for instance |
| 00:41.02 | expose | ejungle: dont spam, ask a question. |
| 00:41.07 | ejungle | ok |
| 00:41.20 | ejungle | so I installed amule-cvs |
| 00:41.33 | ejungle | after compiled and installed wxgtk2.8 |
| 00:41.38 | rcbarnes | wols: no, I'm not looking for a backport |
| 00:41.44 | rcbarnes | it's an installer with a newer kernel |
| 00:41.46 | ejungle | so ./configire works fine for amule |
| 00:41.54 | ejungle | when I do make I get errors |
| 00:41.55 | wols | !tell rcbarnes about kmuto |
| 00:42.04 | wols | !tell ejungle about errors |
| 00:42.05 | rcbarnes | wols: that's it! |
| 00:42.06 | rcbarnes | thanks |
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| 00:42.11 | karmatronic | ejungle: pastebin the error |
| 00:42.26 | ejungle | ok moment |
| 00:42.44 | karmatronic | ejungle: though general methode is to have a look at the first error you get , and find out missing dev lib |
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| 00:43.30 | ejungle | http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php |
| 00:43.42 | ejungle | http://www.pastebin.ca/818004 sorry this is :-$ |
| 00:44.04 | expose | rcbarnes: wols loves to backports. |
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| 00:44.25 | expose | rcbarnes: you might want to have a look at http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 00:44.44 | wols | expose: where is youw wx shared lib? |
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| 00:45.15 | expose | wols: i'm not the one who fails to compile amule. |
| 00:45.18 | wols | expose: you're a bit late |
| 00:45.28 | enouf | that too :-p |
| 00:45.31 | wols | rcbarnes: where is your wx shared lib. and is this really the first error? |
| 00:45.34 | expose | late with what? |
| 00:45.42 | wols | witht he kmuto url |
| 00:45.56 | expose | i did not see it posted yet. |
| 00:46.01 | expose | did you? |
| 00:46.06 | enouf | [19:37:01] <wols> !tell rcbarnes about kmuto |
| 00:46.08 | wols | look up 3 minutes before you |
| 00:46.25 | enouf | (not that it matters .. bah) |
| 00:46.30 | expose | ah, i see. don't know all those blog entrys |
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| 00:49.19 | expose | cpufreq wont go above 1.2ghz anymore, any ideas? scaling_max_freq wont allow changing the frequency up while changing it down works. i tried userspace performance and ondemand governors, and cycled through all possible combinations of relevant BIOS setting (speedstep options and thermal management) |
| 00:49.26 | expose | any ideas? |
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| 00:49.44 | wols | do you actually use 100% cpu? |
| 00:49.45 | zinx | expose: tell it the current frequency is the max frequency |
| 00:50.01 | muhoo_ | how do i get my built-in bluetooth interface working on my asus laptop? |
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| 00:50.09 | expose | zinx: ? |
| 00:50.12 | muhoo_ | i have the bluetooth kernel mod, i have bluez-utils instaled |
| 00:50.22 | muhoo_ | but hciconfig -a shows nothing |
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| 00:50.27 | zinx | muhoo_: it should work automagically.. the one in my G1S does |
| 00:50.28 | muhoo_ | and hcitool dev shows nothing |
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| 00:50.38 | muhoo_ | and hcitool scan says there are no devices :-( |
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| 00:50.41 | expose | wols: doesnt matter really, i cat /sys.../scaling_max_freq but yes, i did that as well with cat dev zero dev null |
| 00:50.43 | zinx | muhoo_: make sure you've not disabled the bluetooth |
| 00:50.45 | muhoo_ | i do have the /etc/init.d/bluetooth on |
| 00:51.00 | muhoo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.17 | zinx | muhoo_: *shrug*, setting it to 0 |
| 00:51.21 | muhoo_ | hcid is running |
| 00:51.30 | muhoo_ | setting it where, exactly? |
| 00:51.41 | expose | zinx: how would that fix anything? |
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| 00:51.45 | zinx | muhoo_: if you use asus-laptop instead of asus-acpi, you can enable/disable via some file in /sys/devices/platform/asus_laptop/ or something |
| 00:52.21 | zinx | expose: try it? |
| 00:52.30 | muhoo_ | ah! |
| 00:52.44 | expose | zinx: then i'm stuck at 800MHz. not a solution. |
| 00:52.47 | muhoo_ | cat /sys/devices/platform/asus-laptop/bluetooth => 0 |
| 00:52.55 | zinx | muhoo_: echo 1 in to it :) |
| 00:53.02 | muhoo_ | how do i do that with sudo again? |
| 00:53.04 | muhoo_ | sh -c? |
| 00:53.12 | zinx | muhoo_: yeah, that'll work |
| 00:53.22 | zinx | muhoo_: quote the command including redirection of course |
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| 00:53.35 | zinx | expose: what? |
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| 00:54.20 | expose | zinx: imho you should reread my question. |
| 00:54.33 | muhoo_ | auugh |
| 00:54.39 | zinx | expose: you're trying to get it to move to a higher frequency automatically, no? |
| 00:54.47 | muhoo_ | no matter how many times i set it to 1, it's still set to 0 :-( |
| 00:54.53 | expose | i want to to go there at all, zinx |
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| 00:55.02 | wols | muhoo_: just su to root and do it then |
| 00:55.07 | muhoo_ | i did that |
| 00:55.11 | expose | zinx: everything is fine, but just 1.2ghz and 800mhz will be used, not all the rest to 2ghz |
| 00:55.17 | muhoo_ | asus:/sys/devices/platform/asus-laptop# echo "1" > bluetooth |
| 00:55.18 | wols | muhoo_: if you used su and not sudo it would work |
| 00:55.26 | muhoo_ | i'm logged in as root now. |
| 00:55.28 | jane19 | Can somebody please walk me through installing the latest libgpod and gtkpod so that I can send mp3s to my ipod? |
| 00:55.29 | muhoo_ | still no dice |
| 00:55.33 | muhoo_ | asus:/sys/devices/platform/asus-laptop# echo "1" > bluetooth |
| 00:55.36 | muhoo_ | cat bluetooth => 0 |
| 00:55.38 | zinx | expose: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq |
| 00:55.38 | wols | then it will work with echo |
| 00:55.59 | zinx | muhoo_: hmm, it may just not be able to read whether bluetooth is enabled or not on your laptop |
| 00:56.08 | expose | zinx: that's fine, all available freqs are listed. i just cannot set them as scaling_max_freq |
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| 00:56.29 | zinx | expose: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq |
| 00:56.34 | muhoo_ | no, it's not enabled |
| 00:56.40 | muhoo_ | according to hcitool |
| 00:56.41 | zinx | expose: also, cpuinfo_max_freq should only list *ONE* frequency, not all of them |
| 00:56.49 | zinx | expose: if it's listing all of them, then there is something *SERIOUSLY* wrong with your kernel |
| 00:57.07 | muhoo_ | what's drivign me crazy, is that i've DONE this before, but i forgot how |
| 00:57.25 | muhoo_ | i found some doc, told me how to do it, i followed the instructions, and i had bluetooth showing up in ifconfig |
| 00:57.31 | muhoo_ | now, nothing |
| 00:57.36 | expose | zinx: i set 2ghz to scaling_max_freq like 2k times now. it wont change if i do it again. |
| 00:57.49 | zinx | muhoo_: lsusb should list it too (as root - something's funky with lsusb for normal users these days) |
| 00:58.03 | zinx | expose: what does /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq say? |
| 00:58.23 | muhoo_ | huh!! lsusb does *not* show any bluetooth devices. my bluetooth chip is PCI not usb |
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| 00:58.32 | expose | zinx: 2ghz. |
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| 00:58.35 | zinx | muhoo_: erh, hmm |
| 00:58.37 | muhoo_ | it's built into the laptop |
| 00:58.46 | zinx | muhoo_: built-in doesn't mean it's PCI :x |
| 00:58.53 | muhoo_ | i have no idea if the proper driver for it is loaded, or how to find out |
| 00:58.57 | zinx | muhoo_: but that's not saying it's not PCI.. it may well be.. i think mine's USB though |
| 00:59.15 | zinx | expose: 2000000? |
| 00:59.29 | zinx | expose: "2ghz" is also wrong, and not a value scaling_max_freq will accept |
| 00:59.54 | zinx | expose: try cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq |
| 01:00.08 | expose | i'm not that stupid. it says 2001000, which is normal for that machine. |
| 01:00.14 | peter_ | good night |
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| 01:00.39 | zinx | expose: if it hits 2GHz when you do that, then you need to choose a different governor |
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| 01:01.03 | zinx | expose: perhaps try a userspace one like powernowd or something |
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| 01:01.57 | expose | zinx: please reread my question. those are not solution to this issue. |
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| 01:02.30 | jane19 | my configure is not finding a library that is definitely on my system, how do i pass it through? |
| 01:02.42 | zinx | expose: what the hell is the problem, then? your question clearly does not explain it in a way that i can understand. |
| 01:03.00 | zinx | expose: and you need to at least do the troubleshooting steps that i suggest and tell me the results |
| 01:03.08 | expose | zinx: _everything_ works fine, the only issue is: i cannot raise scaling_max_freq, although i can lower it. |
| 01:03.48 | zinx | expose: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq, and for God's sake tell me exactly what it says this time |
| 01:04.04 | expose | 1200000 |
| 01:04.06 | muhoo_ | ah shit |
| 01:04.07 | expose | 1.2ghz. |
| 01:04.18 | zinx | expose: are you on battery power? |
| 01:04.23 | expose | No. |
| 01:04.28 | muhoo_ | this laptop does NOT have a built in bluetooth :-( |
| 01:04.33 | zinx | muhoo_: :( |
| 01:04.36 | muhoo_ | i could swear i was told it did |
| 01:04.38 | muhoo_ | when i bought it. |
| 01:04.39 | dondelelcaro | \amethyst: bat is called bat for "basic apt-get troubleshooting" |
| 01:04.54 | dondelelcaro | !literal bat |
| 01:04.54 | dpkg | "bat" is "<reply> see basic apt-get troubleshooting" |
| 01:04.55 | expose | muhoo_: so just return it. |
| 01:04.56 | zinx | expose: what is scaling_driver? |
| 01:05.01 | muhoo_ | ahhahahaaha, that's funny |
| 01:05.10 | muhoo_ | i bought it a year ago and i have my whole life on this thing |
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| 01:05.11 | expose | muh? |
| 01:05.15 | expose | ah, okay. |
| 01:05.16 | muhoo_ | no fucking way am i going to return or sell it |
| 01:05.36 | muhoo_ | i'll have to skip down to the computer store and buy a USB bluetooth dongle then |
| 01:05.48 | muhoo_ | no big, just an extra $20 i didn't expect to have to spend. |
| 01:06.01 | expose | zinx: acpi-cpufreq |
| 01:06.13 | zinx | muhoo_: or one for that silly express card slot no one ever uses |
| 01:06.40 | muhoo_ | yeah, good point. but that might be more expensive |
| 01:06.50 | muhoo_ | i occasionaly do use the express card slot, for firewire |
| 01:07.04 | muhoo_ | since this laptop has the EVIL EVIL EVIL ricoh firewire chip that doesn't work with linux |
| 01:07.09 | zinx | expose: looks like that's bug #401979 |
| 01:07.22 | muhoo_ | thanks all |
| 01:07.30 | expose | zinx: which bug tracking system? |
| 01:07.45 | zinx | expose: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401979 |
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| 01:10.58 | expose | zinx: oh, well, that's about different hardware and an older kernel. i run rc5, and didnt have this problem 4hrs ago. then i changed one bios setting, the problem occured, i changed it back, and it's still present. |
| 01:11.55 | zinx | expose: did you suspend/resume? |
| 01:12.07 | expose | No, I reboot all the time. |
| 01:12.19 | expose | how else would i get to bios. |
| 01:12.30 | zinx | expose: hey, i don't know what you've done since then |
| 01:12.43 | zinx | expose: can you try cutting the laptop's power and booting back up? (rather than a 'soft' reboot) |
| 01:12.53 | zinx | expose: just as a test - obviously that's not a solution |
| 01:13.21 | expose | lol |
| 01:13.25 | expose | fixed it |
| 01:13.28 | zinx | o_O |
| 01:13.32 | expose | the solution was: |
| 01:13.48 | expose | i need to boot with a battery inserted, otherwise the BIOS get's confused |
| 01:14.12 | zinx | O_O |
| 01:14.16 | expose | when i first booted, the bat was in, i removed it since i wanted to be on AC anyway _while_ it was already booting (it supports hotswap) |
| 01:14.21 | zinx | i'd look for a BIOS update :D |
| 01:14.28 | expose | so when the BIOS walked through, that battery was there. |
| 01:14.39 | expose | then i rebooted, to change that single setting - without the battery. |
| 01:14.46 | expose | that broke everything as it seems. |
| 01:14.47 | expose | :-) |
| 01:15.06 | expose | and cost me severy hours of my time. damn it. |
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| 01:15.13 | {Nathan} | Is there a dd operation that will make something exactly 512kb? |
| 01:15.32 | enyc | {Nathan}: what do you mean ? |
| 01:15.41 | zinx | expose: that really shouldn't happen |
| 01:15.50 | expose | {Nathan}: dd bs=512 count=1024 |
| 01:15.54 | {Nathan} | enyc: I have a file. I want it to be exactly 512kb. I heard dd can do it. |
| 01:15.57 | enyc | {Nathan}: dd can copy 512-byte blocks and that sort of thing? do you want to pad a file with zeroes so you end up with 512kb? |
| 01:16.06 | enyc | {Nathan}: how big is existing file? |
| 01:16.07 | {Nathan} | ss2: mmk, I'll try that. |
| 01:16.08 | expose | {Nathan}: have a look at the manpage |
| 01:16.22 | {Nathan} | expose: I did, and didn't understand it. |
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| 01:16.28 | {Nathan} | enyc: It's about 506kb |
| 01:16.41 | enyc | {Nathan}: right... and you want to pad with 00 bytes to make it 512kb ? |
| 01:16.47 | expose | {Nathan}: bs set's the size of blocks, count the number of blocks, thus bs*count = filesize |
| 01:16.50 | {Nathan} | enyc: yup |
| 01:16.59 | enyc | {Nathan}: you didnt explain that when you first asked the question |
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| 01:17.54 | expose | {Nathan}: then add 512-506 = 6kb, bs=6 count=1024 should work |
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| 01:18.58 | oopsguy | hello everyone |
| 01:19.16 | oopsguy | is there anyone here that could give some tech support? |
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| 01:19.28 | enyc | {Nathan}: dd if=infile of=outfile count=1 bs=524288 conv=sync |
| 01:19.28 | wols | is there anyone here asking stupid questions? |
| 01:19.40 | wols | {Nathan}: #ubuntu |
| 01:19.49 | oopsguy | arent u a sweetheart |
| 01:19.58 | expose | sure, he is :-) |
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| 01:21.03 | {Nathan} | Sweet, enyc, expose, I got it working |
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| 01:22.18 | oopsguy | does anyone know how to repair a system wide error using chown in term? |
| 01:22.39 | expose | dont ask to ask just ask |
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| 01:22.46 | enyc | {Nathan}: conv=sync only pads actual partial blocks from input .. it doesnt seem to add new blocks... in this case using 1 block of 512kb works ;-) |
| 01:23.04 | oopsguy | everything has been changed to one user and now gnome wont boot |
| 01:23.08 | enyc | oopsguy: the question doesnt give enoigh detail of the exact error and why change-ownership would help |
| 01:23.18 | enyc | oopsguy: every file on entire system? |
| 01:23.48 | oopsguy | chown -hR username:usergroup / |
| 01:24.00 | wols | oopsguy: reinstall |
| 01:24.10 | enyc | oopsguy: then the system is really broken ;-) youd need to check everything everywhere |
| 01:24.21 | Tramp | !unix lessons |
| 01:24.21 | dpkg | unix lessons is, like, (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 01:24.26 | oopsguy | is there a way to restore everything to default |
| 01:24.28 | enyc | oopsguy: just copy off data etc. and reinstall system then restore your data ;-) |
| 01:24.48 | snogglethorpe | (12) back up your data |
| 01:24.51 | snogglethorpe | (13) back up your data |
| 01:24.55 | snogglethorpe | (14) back up your data |
| 01:24.57 | snogglethorpe | ... |
| 01:24.59 | enyc | oopsguy: yes. reinstall ;-) |
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| 01:25.11 | oopsguy | this was a new install so there really isnt anything to backup |
| 01:25.22 | enyc | oopsguy: then reinstall will fix it ;-) |
| 01:25.34 | {Nathan} | snogglethorpe: I'm getting a 500gb external HD for xmas. I'm sweating right now because the #1 thing I care about, my music, isn't backed up |
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| 01:25.46 | enyc | oopsguy: and dont do things as root when you dont need to. end of problem. |
| 01:25.50 | {Nathan} | I'm looking forward to being safe. |
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| 01:26.13 | snogglethorpe | lol... my main disk is still 5 GB!! |
| 01:26.24 | snogglethorpe | i can backup over a modem :-) |
| 01:26.29 | enyc | snogglethorpe: hrrm i use 9gb at w0rk ;-) |
| 01:26.43 | enyc | snogglethorpe: with 9gb+9gb disks in raid1 /home |
| 01:26.53 | enyc | snogglethorpe: with 250gb disk /home/enyc/s |
| 01:27.48 | expose | snogglethorpe: new harddisks are faster, give them a try :-) |
| 01:28.23 | wols | expose: maybe he uses flash for his / |
| 01:28.48 | oopsguy | now to what got me into the error: after i installed, i went to a website to get some codecs, the codec pack was to be installed usin apt, so it said to edit the sources file to include the server.when i went to the sources file it said that i didnt have rights to make it writable, even though i was logged in as root. how do i edit files in filesystem? |
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| 01:28.54 | expose | he used "disk" and "still" so it didnt sound like flash |
| 01:29.29 | snogglethorpe | expose: yeah... i know, and cheap too... |
| 01:29.32 | wols | oopsguy: it is writable by root |
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| 01:29.37 | bkruse_home | anyone play counter strike source in linux? Particularly can you play source (using wine or whatever) from a windows parition? |
| 01:29.57 | wols | bkruse_home: appdb.winehq.com check there |
| 01:30.22 | bkruse_home | wols: thanks! I do not want to have to have it in two places |
| 01:30.32 | expose | snogglethorpe: never mind, i save money for a psu since 12 month or so as well... |
| 01:31.02 | oopsguy | when i setup debian i only had one user and i thought that was root, i used that password anytime it asked for the root password but still could not change filesystem to write |
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| 01:31.20 | Claudio32m | how do I find out if i have etch |
| 01:31.26 | Claudio32m | uname -a shows kenerl info |
| 01:31.45 | oopsguy | do i need to change how i login? |
| 01:31.49 | expose | Claudio32m: look at sources.list |
| 01:32.18 | Claudio32m | 070820-20:21]/ etch contrib main |
| 01:32.23 | Claudio32m | found that inside |
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| 01:32.28 | Claudio32m | guess I have etch |
| 01:32.31 | Tramp | !debian version |
| 01:32.31 | dpkg | To determine which version of debian you are running, run $ cat /etc/debian_version; If this outputs "lenny/sid", ask me about <testing/unstable>. |
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| 01:33.11 | expose | oh, nice file, that is. |
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| 01:35.25 | patcher | acabo de hacer un netinstall de debian, despues de mucho lo logre el problema es que no se como se llama el paquete que tiene el plugin de kde que te muestrre el status de tu bateria, de echo todo eso de control de energia no se instalo, alguien sabe como se llama el paquete?? Mucas gracias de antemano |
| 01:35.37 | oopsguy | if i login using the only user that i have setup, then isnt everything i do done as root? |
| 01:35.46 | wols | !es |
| 01:35.46 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:35.49 | cusco | !es |
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| 01:35.56 | cusco | :p |
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| 01:37.59 | xortch | i am trying and unable to find a copy of the debian rename command available for download on the internets somewhere. i like the power and versatility it offers, but as i am running osx i dont have the script available to me natively |
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| 01:38.18 | xortch | anyone know where to get it, or could email me a copy? |
| 01:38.57 | Claudio32m | rename? |
| 01:39.01 | Claudio32m | don't you mean mv |
| 01:39.34 | xortch | i used to use debian, and the CLI command |
| 01:39.43 | xortch | "rename" is a perl script |
| 01:39.59 | rvsjoen | anyone know where I can get a hold of unstable's basedebs.tar ? I cant seem to find it on the mirrors, must just be me though |
| 01:40.13 | xortch | but i dont have an install of debian anymore to copy it off |
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| 01:42.06 | Lycus | A friend of mine wants to make his old desktop w/o a monitor a stereo, so I recommended Debian be installed - is it possible to install Debian w/o a monitor? |
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| 01:43.53 | Tramp | xortch: https://www.codeblog.org/viewsrc/perl-5.8.7/debian/rename |
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| 01:44.47 | xortch | Tramp: thank you many internets for your ability to find something i could not. |
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| 01:45.46 | Tramp | xortch: not your fault. I searched for a part of the script 8) |
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| 01:47.25 | xortch | Tramp: now theres just the problem of finding an easy way to remove the line numbering of it before copying it to a text file |
| 01:47.29 | oopsguy | does anyone know how to solve having a slightly fuzzy display in gnome? |
| 01:47.44 | rvsjoen | refresh rate maybe ? |
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| 01:47.54 | xortch | a giant stone john wilkes booth? |
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| 01:48.12 | xortch | sorry, southpark reference. a little bit off topic |
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| 01:48.32 | cusco | xortch: use cut |
| 01:48.35 | oopsguy | itss set a 60hzm, that works in xp, but gnome doesnt look quite as clear |
| 01:49.30 | cusco | what monitor do you have? |
| 01:49.33 | oopsguy | its on a cheap dell laptop so i was afraid to go any higher than that |
| 01:50.03 | cusco | do you know the horizontal and vertical syncs? |
| 01:50.04 | Tramp | xortch: in vi: 2,$s/^.*: // - anything else? |
| 01:50.25 | oopsguy | no |
| 01:50.41 | stew | oopsguy: are you running it at the panel's native resolution? |
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| 01:51.28 | oopsguy | just at the os default, i know it is the same resolution a refresh that i use in XP |
| 01:51.32 | dbmoodb | ah hi if i delete config files from samba how can i get apt-get to reput them for me ? |
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| 01:52.28 | cusco | anybody knows what would be the most used speech recognition software in debian? |
| 01:52.33 | oopsguy | dbmoodb: apt-get filename |
| 01:52.40 | dbmoodb | i did |
| 01:52.42 | nostahl | without using ndiswrapper |
| 01:52.46 | dbmoodb | dpkg complains |
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| 01:52.48 | stew | dbmoodb: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 01:52.54 | nostahl | what other ways are there for setting up a new wireless adapter |
| 01:53.00 | king_crimson | ahoy |
| 01:53.10 | dbmoodb | thank you |
| 01:53.22 | king_crimson | anybody know of a driver in can use in etch to get a usb webcam with the cif single chip working? |
| 01:53.40 | king_crimson | server:/home/mike# lsusb |
| 01:53.40 | king_crimson | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam |
| 01:54.28 | oopsguy | dbmoodb: have you tried to copy from the install files |
| 01:54.32 | dbmoodb | eh ? |
| 01:54.39 | dbmoodb | nar oops the other guy solved it |
| 01:54.55 | dbmoodb | aptitude also does it for some reason so it seems |
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| 01:55.21 | dbmoodb | nope can that actually |
| 01:55.28 | dbmoodb | aptitude makes it silly |
| 01:55.33 | eth0- | hello can some one tell me i want to download cds of debian .. from 21cds .. how much to i need i need for router .. also to have on it LAMP gcc make the base things? |
| 01:55.35 | eth0- | how much cds do i need i dont want to download all 21 |
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| 01:55.46 | dbmoodb | no |
| 01:55.50 | positron2007 | Hello! Anyone using psi? |
| 01:55.51 | dbmoodb | normally one is fine |
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| 01:56.33 | positron2007 | I wanted to know which package should I install to make SSL authentication in jabber servers |
| 01:56.46 | dbmoodb | hey ah that isn't working.. |
| 01:57.29 | dbmoodb | Starting Samba daemons: nmbd failed! |
| 01:58.06 | oopsguy | aptitude? |
| 01:58.19 | dbmoodb | ? |
| 01:58.37 | dbmoodb | no actually that is meant to be the apt get way i just tried |
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| 01:59.38 | oopsguy | what happens when you try apt to get the files? |
| 01:59.38 | nostahl | how do i get debian to recognize my new wireless usb adapter |
| 01:59.38 | dbmoodb | ah what make is it nostahl ? |
| 01:59.38 | stew | eth0-: for a router you only need the first. for php you need more: /msg dpkg which cd |
| 01:59.42 | dbmoodb | lsusb ? |
| 01:59.44 | nostahl | netgear WG111 |
| 01:59.48 | oopsguy | i never had to do this but i always assumed apt would get system files for you |
| 01:59.55 | eth0- | stew thanks mate |
| 01:59.58 | dbmoodb | mmmm a netgear |
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| 02:00.27 | dbmoodb | !what's my wireless |
| 02:00.27 | dpkg | Install the 'hwinfo' package and execute "/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or http://linux-wless.passys.nl/, or ask about <whats my hardware> |
| 02:00.34 | rvsjoen | any simple debian way to just compile a single module into an already compiled kernel tree and install it ? |
| 02:00.43 | stew | rvsjoen: /msg dpkg m-a |
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| 02:00.53 | rvsjoen | thanks |
| 02:01.14 | stew | dbmoodb: note that samba's config files are likely owned by the samba-common package not the samba package, so reinstall samba-common with confmiss |
| 02:01.17 | nexxu | hi, how can I stop the portmap daemon ? I tried renaming the script to K...portmap but it still starts |
| 02:01.38 | dondelelcaro | nexxu: which script did you rename? |
| 02:02.03 | dondelelcaro | nexxu: because portmap starts in both S and 2. |
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| 02:02.28 | karmatronic | nexxu: portmaps is part of nfs client package , so if you dont use nfs.... |
| 02:02.39 | dondelelcaro | (and generally, there's no real reason to wory about portmap; having it listen on localhost isn't a problem.) |
| 02:03.11 | dbmoodb | oh thanks for the tip stew |
| 02:03.12 | nexxu | dondelelcaro 3 .. should I also rename S and 2 as well ? ... I don`t run nfs or any other program that has it as a dependencie |
| 02:03.20 | oopsguy | what is the best video codec package, wmv looks like poop |
| 02:03.22 | nostahl | when i type lsusb |
| 02:03.23 | dondelelcaro | nexxu: the default runlevel is 2, not 3. |
| 02:03.31 | dondelelcaro | nexxu: and yes, you have to rename it in S as well. |
| 02:03.39 | nexxu | dondelelcaro I changed it to 3 in inittab |
| 02:03.40 | nostahl | it gives me Bus 001 Device 001; ID 0000;0000 |
| 02:03.51 | dondelelcaro | nexxu: well, then you also have to rename it in S, then. |
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| 02:04.11 | nexxu | thank you |
| 02:04.20 | karmatronic | nexxu: btw, in lenny , it has changet , portmap is the name of the package |
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| 02:04.47 | Sebo | hi!! How can I list all users?? |
| 02:04.57 | dondelelcaro | Sebo: logged in? or what? |
| 02:05.08 | dbmoodb | oh that seems to be working thank you |
| 02:05.44 | Sebo | dondelelcaro: all which are made ;] I'm root :) |
| 02:06.04 | dbmoodb | ah wtf it seems to be getting my old config from some where lol |
| 02:06.14 | Sebo | dondelelcaro: including system users |
| 02:06.16 | dbmoodb | weird |
| 02:06.16 | karmatronic | Sebo: awk -F: '{print $1 }' /etc/passwd |
| 02:07.22 | Sebo | thx |
| 02:07.44 | dbmoodb | nope my fault lol |
| 02:07.44 | dbmoodb | good |
| 02:07.57 | dbmoodb | thought it was performing magic |
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| 02:09.59 | positron_ | Hello! I wanted to use encryption in psi the IM, can someone tell me the right package to install? |
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| 02:11.38 | karmatronic | positron_: maybe qca-tls |
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| 02:12.21 | karmatronic | positron_: hope i dont screw your stuff :) |
| 02:12.33 | positron_ | hehe |
| 02:12.42 | positron_ | I saw in a forum that it was libqssl1 |
| 02:12.46 | positron_ | But I don't have it |
| 02:13.12 | Sebo | How can I add system user?? |
| 02:13.26 | karmatronic | Sebo: what s a system user ? |
| 02:13.43 | Sebo | for instance postgres |
| 02:14.31 | dondelelcaro | Sebo: so getnet passwd; |
| 02:14.40 | dondelelcaro | Sebo: err, getent passwd; |
| 02:15.02 | dell_lin | if i am installing wireless lan card (pci) do i require firmware need to be configure /install |
| 02:15.16 | Sebo | karmatronic: I meen such that is responsible for running deamon |
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| 02:15.53 | phogg | getent is one of those things that you never hear about until someone tells you to use it |
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| 02:17.01 | wols_ | dell_lin: are you running ubuntu or debian? |
| 02:17.14 | karmatronic | wols_: :) |
| 02:17.26 | Sebo | acctually I had never hear about getent ;] |
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| 02:17.47 | dell_lin | suse |
| 02:17.48 | karmatronic | positron_: apt-get intall qca-tls did the trick |
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| 02:26.08 | Sebo | ...but #getent passwd only displays users records. How to add one?? |
| 02:26.20 | maddash | Sebo: adduser |
| 02:26.29 | nexxu | hi, another thing ... how can I configure ntp to listen only on localhost ? I modified /etc/ntp.conf "listen on 127.0.0.1" and restarted it but it doesn`t work |
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| 02:27.17 | Sebo | I know how to add normal usser but i need to add system one (for running some deamon) |
| 02:28.09 | Sebo | i've hared that such users are difrent - at last they need to has some specific UID ;] |
| 02:28.46 | karmatronic | hey , how can i easily see dvd menus ? |
| 02:29.21 | asg | Sebo: adduser --system (per the manpage |
| 02:29.23 | asg | ) |
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| 02:30.03 | Sebo | asg: thx :) |
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| 02:31.53 | dondelelcaro | Sebo: they don't need a specific UID, but it's generally preferable to give them one below 1000. |
| 02:32.13 | dondelelcaro | (the main difference is that they tend not to have a home directory, and tend not to have their own group) |
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| 02:36.05 | Haleu | BVB |
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| 02:36.49 | Haleu | D |
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| 02:39.42 | positron_ | karmatronic? Yes, it was that package but now I have a problem that is not debian related but in psi the keys don't show up :/ |
| 02:39.48 | positron_ | Oh, he left... |
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| 02:42.14 | uKKeMan | im getting a The following packages have been kept back: when i wanna do a dist-upgrade |
| 02:42.21 | uKKeMan | and cant find anything agains it |
| 02:42.33 | asg | !kept back |
| 02:42.33 | dpkg | kept back is, like, when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available. This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "dist-upgrade" and new packages need to be installed. To investigate, "apt-get -s install <kept-package>". Also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 |
| 02:42.51 | uKKeMan | i dont have any unsolved problems |
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| 02:43.22 | uKKeMan | apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade i started that and first i got errors but removed the package which made problems now no errors anymore |
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| 02:44.21 | Sebo | which shell shuld i use for --system users?? |
| 02:45.32 | asg | Sebo: most daemons don't need a shell. If you do, the most minimal one to do the job you need is best. |
| 02:46.03 | wols_ | Sebo: if you can, use /bin/false |
| 02:46.24 | uKKeMan | nobody knows? |
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| 02:46.47 | Sebo | so if mine don't need one i just don't need to specify it in #adduser --system --shell?? |
| 02:46.58 | \amethyst | uKKeMan: that means they're marked as held, probably by the dependency prblem resolver |
| 02:47.00 | asg | uKKeMan: have you followed all instructions in the factoid? What version of Debian are you running? |
| 02:47.22 | asg | Sebo: it will use /bin/false by default unless you specify otherwise |
| 02:47.36 | \amethyst | uKKeMan: you can use aptitude unhold <packagenames> to mark them as not held |
| 02:47.59 | \amethyst | uKKeMan: that may lead to the same dependency problem you encountered previously, next time you try to upgrade |
| 02:48.24 | uKKeMan | ok thats an idea |
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| 02:50.59 | uKKeMan | ok thanks |
| 02:51.07 | uKKeMan | the first packages are installing now without problems |
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| 02:52.23 | fas3r | hello everybody |
| 02:53.54 | fas3r | it's possibe to list all chain in iptables ? |
| 02:54.37 | simonrvn | yes |
| 02:54.41 | Tramp | fas3r: no. just one table at a time |
| 02:54.44 | fas3r | without -l and -t nat -l option ... |
| 02:54.53 | fas3r | hum oki Tramp |
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| 02:56.29 | Sebo | How to change user main group?? |
| 02:56.57 | asg | fas3r: depending on what you are trying to do, /sbin/iptables-save will dump the ruleset to stdout so you can post-process it. |
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| 02:58.00 | simonrvn | he said chains. did he mean tables or not? |
| 02:58.15 | asg | simonrvn: you can have custom chains within a table |
| 02:58.22 | simonrvn | yes |
| 02:58.26 | fas3r | asg: i want to control my iptables rules with web interface but the problem is i need to return the rule number (id) for the case i need to remove or modify it |
| 02:58.27 | Tramp | i understood it as "all chains in all tables" |
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| 02:59.30 | simonrvn | Tramp: mm, plausible |
| 03:00.02 | fas3r | Tramp: it's this "all chains in all tables" |
| 03:00.06 | simonrvn | all chains in all tables -> no all chains in one table -> yes |
| 03:00.19 | Tramp | xactly$ |
| 03:00.19 | wols_ | anyone know what "Load_Cycle_Count" is in smartmontools? |
| 03:00.21 | fas3r | ok |
| 03:00.35 | simonrvn | -save is handy to do that (points at asg ;) |
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| 03:01.00 | fas3r | when i create rule in table it's possible i know his id ( rule number) ? |
| 03:01.10 | simonrvn | --line-numbers |
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| 03:03.02 | fas3r | ok thank simonrvn :) |
| 03:03.05 | piroko | wols_: Not sure what it means, but there are several articles on the net about high Load_Cycle_Count messages from smartmontools meaning that your hard drive might soon die |
| 03:03.45 | simonrvn | thank the other people too |
| 03:03.52 | wols_ | piroko: it pretty much is already dead. but I thought to get a bit more life out of it with a bit of luck. booting from liveCDs and usb sticks only kinda sucks :) |
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| 03:04.27 | piroko | wols_: I think it has something to do with your hard drive spinning up and down too much |
| 03:05.02 | fas3r | simonrvn: yes thank everybody :p |
| 03:05.10 | simonrvn | :) |
| 03:06.00 | piroko | wols_: Oh jesus. My load cycles is 449826 |
| 03:06.40 | Sebo | And finally How can I display summary about the user: I mean which groups is it in; its shell, home etc |
| 03:06.49 | Sebo | ? |
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| 03:06.59 | piroko | Sebo: cat /etc/passwd or /etc/group |
| 03:07.23 | piroko | Sebo: You can grep for specific users too |
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| 03:07.53 | Sebo | and there is nothing more userlikely :/ |
| 03:08.10 | simonrvn | id <username> or getent passwd <username> |
| 03:08.48 | Tramp | or groups <username>? |
| 03:09.38 | asg | Tramp: id is generally preferred since it gives more info, including what groups provides |
| 03:10.20 | Tramp | asg: ah, right. I was reading too fast. my bad. |
| 03:10.49 | Sebo | THx - i think the user is corectly made :) |
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| 03:14.15 | TheViral | hi, I need help, my ath0 just decided to stop working right |
| 03:14.44 | TheViral | when I try to ifup 1th0 |
| 03:14.49 | TheViral | ath0* |
| 03:15.00 | TheViral | it does the DHCPDISCOVER thing a few times |
| 03:15.29 | TheViral | then it says... |
| 03:15.45 | TheViral | No DHCPOFFERS received |
| 03:15.56 | TheViral | No working leases in persstent database - sleeping |
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| 03:17.19 | Tramp | TheViral: are you using wpa_supplicant? |
| 03:17.27 | TheViral | I'm not sure |
| 03:17.34 | TheViral | how do I tell? |
| 03:17.47 | Tramp | ps -e | grep wpa |
| 03:18.06 | TheViral | nothing shows up |
| 03:18.39 | TheViral | I was just on a wireless connection, unsecured...then I went to connect to my home one which is a WEP one I believe and now I can't even configure my wireless |
| 03:19.43 | TheViral | brb one second |
| 03:19.47 | Tramp | TheViral: hmm. can you pastebin iwconfig ath0 somewhere? |
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| 03:21.23 | TheViral | back |
| 03:21.24 | TheViral | k |
| 03:21.27 | TheViral | one sec |
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| 03:23.02 | TheViral | http://pastebin.com/d1cc650a0 |
| 03:23.10 | TheViral | there, now you have my essid and key ;) |
| 03:24.00 | TheViral | now, before it wasn't showing link quality..it was 0.. |
| 03:24.08 | TheViral | but I plugged in my ethernet cable |
| 03:24.19 | TheViral | not sure if that's why it shows 66 there for some reason |
| 03:24.41 | fignew | does it fluctuate? |
| 03:24.42 | Tramp | Rx invalid nwid:37966 doesn't look good - but I actually don't know what it means. Some problems with the association I'd guess |
| 03:24.54 | fignew | or does it just stay at 66? |
| 03:25.15 | TheViral | fluctuates |
| 03:25.17 | TheViral | 66/65 |
| 03:25.21 | TheViral | brb |
| 03:25.24 | TheViral | one sec |
| 03:25.57 | Tramp | I was alwas wondering how you can verify, that you are associated at all... |
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| 03:26.50 | Tramp | ...without checking at the AP |
| 03:27.33 | fignew | look at iwconfig |
| 03:27.41 | fignew | if it lists a MAC address |
| 03:27.49 | fignew | then it's associated with that router :) |
| 03:28.04 | fignew | ermm AP* |
| 03:29.07 | TheViral | I am back |
| 03:29.37 | TheViral | by mac address you mean the access point? |
| 03:29.40 | Tramp | fignew: you sure? I remember it just shows what you set with iwconfig |
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| 03:30.48 | fignew | Tramp: hmmm, if you manually specify the MAC address, you might be right. I never do though :/ |
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| 03:31.03 | liable | lots of invalid nwid means you are on a pretty congested channel with other ap's |
| 03:31.08 | Tramp | TheViral: however ... If you set a static IP (ifconfig ath0 <IP>), can you ping the AP? |
| 03:31.28 | Tramp | liable: ah, ok. So it's not a sign of failed association? |
| 03:31.38 | TheViral | I don't think I can set a manula IP |
| 03:31.42 | TheViral | manual* |
| 03:31.44 | liable | Tramp: nope |
| 03:31.52 | TheViral | cause the router sets it for me |
| 03:32.10 | Tramp | TheViral: of course you can, be brave - or is this a corporate net? |
| 03:32.16 | Tramp | liable: Thanks |
| 03:32.44 | TheViral | Tramp: it's my home wireless, it uses the DHCP, doesn't that mean it auto assigns for me? how would I set an IP? |
| 03:33.15 | Tramp | TheViral: as I said. with ifconfig. |
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| 03:33.30 | TheViral | can I choose any IP? |
| 03:33.42 | bolt | ... |
| 03:33.50 | Tramp | TheViral: don't you know which IP-range your dhcpd uses? |
| 03:33.53 | bolt | don't take mine! |
| 03:33.55 | bolt | :/ |
| 03:34.07 | TheViral | bolt: I'll tak it if I want to >=] |
| 03:34.12 | TheViral | take* |
| 03:34.26 | Tramp | TheViral: what internal IP has your AP? 192.168something I presume |
| 03:34.32 | Sebo | how can I # rm MANY files?? #rm ./*.jpg says "list of arguments is to long ;] |
| 03:34.34 | TheViral | Tramp: yes |
| 03:35.05 | Tramp | TheViral: unless you have an other system with this IP in your homenet, choose one higher. |
| 03:35.24 | Tramp | TheViral: if it is .1, use .2 unless you know the .2 is used |
| 03:37.11 | Tramp | Sebo: One way is: find . -name \*.jpg -exec ls {} \; |
| 03:37.28 | TheViral | am I just adding the address? or do I need to provide an essid and key also? |
| 03:37.41 | Tramp | Sebo: then read man find and adjust the command. |
| 03:38.15 | Tramp | TheViral: just go ahead and do "ifconfig ath0 192.168.foo.bar" without changing anything else for the moment |
| 03:38.44 | TheViral | ok, now what :p |
| 03:39.00 | Tramp | TheViral: It would greatly help, if essid and key were the right one for your home network ... |
| 03:39.23 | Tramp | TheViral: now "ping <IP of your AP>" and tell me what happens |
| 03:40.07 | TheViral | says unreachable |
| 03:40.47 | Tramp | TheViral: nasty. What does arp -an show? |
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| 03:41.27 | TheViral | ? (192.168.2.1) at <incomplete> on ath0 ? (64.233.167.99) at <incomplete> on ath0 ? (192.168.2.1) at 00:13:A3:01:7A:7C [ether] on eth1 |
| 03:41.54 | Tramp | ?? |
| 03:42.09 | Demosthenex | i'm trying to manually insert one .deb into an apt-move'd mirror, but it won't add it to the Packages file. Any suggestions where I might start? |
| 03:42.47 | Tramp | so you are connected wired to your AP. |
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| 03:43.02 | TheViral | at the moment...yes |
| 03:43.07 | TheViral | that's how I am on here |
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| 03:44.42 | TheViral | dhcp |
| 03:44.44 | TheViral | oops |
| 03:45.00 | TheViral | any idea about the DHCP leases? |
| 03:45.10 | TheViral | I think that might be where the problem is originating? |
| 03:45.13 | Tramp | TheViral: yeah. but that doesn't make thinks easier. ok. You are sure essid and key are right |
| 03:45.27 | TheViral | yeah, I'll redo them |
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| 03:45.48 | wols_ | TheViral: iwconfig |
| 03:45.58 | wols_ | is your ath0 associated? |
| 03:46.05 | TheViral | associated with what |
| 03:46.13 | Tramp | wols_: that's the question. How do you check this? |
| 03:46.16 | wols_ | ypur AP |
| 03:46.26 | wols_ | Tramp: iwconfig |
| 03:46.43 | Tramp | wols_: he pasted it here: http://pastebin.com/d1cc650a0 |
| 03:47.11 | Tramp | wols_: but my iwconfig looks like that even when it's not associated. (I set the MAC of the AP with iwconfig though) |
| 03:47.29 | wols_ | Tramp: it is |
| 03:47.50 | Tramp | wols_: how can you see? |
| 03:47.54 | wols_ | mine clearly says "not associated" when it isn't |
| 03:48.03 | wols_ | acx100 tho |
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| 03:48.15 | Tramp | wols_: well. hmm. mine doesn't (madwifi) |
| 03:48.24 | TheViral | I am on madwifi also |
| 03:48.50 | Tramp | TheViral: yeah, that's why I jumped in in the first place ... otherwise I would have stayed out 8) |
| 03:49.36 | TheViral | wols_: do you know anything about dhcp leases? |
| 03:49.39 | Tramp | TheViral: what IP did you give ath0 and what is eth1? |
| 03:49.55 | TheViral | am I doing this right when I ifdown ath0 then ifup ath0? |
| 03:50.08 | TheViral | I gave ath0 192.168.2.2 |
| 03:50.20 | TheViral | eth1 is my ethernet...hardline |
| 03:50.28 | Tramp | TheViral: and which IP shows "ifconfig eth1"? |
| 03:50.56 | TheViral | 192.168.2.10 |
| 03:51.05 | TheViral | should I try 11 for ath0? |
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| 03:52.19 | Tramp | TheViral: wait a second ... still don't understand why the ping fails, when you are connected wired. |
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| 03:53.33 | TheViral | oh, because I told it to ping using ath0 :P |
| 03:53.53 | TheViral | I figured I didn't need to know that my ethernet is working... |
| 03:54.03 | TheViral | cause I am on here :p |
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| 03:54.20 | Tramp | TheViral: ah. ok. When I told you to ping I didn't know you were connected wired. So I was confused. |
| 03:55.02 | TheViral | am I doing this right though? with the ifdown ath0 and ifup ath0 |
| 03:55.03 | Tramp | TheViral: but if you did that, and you have no arp, then you are not associated. |
| 03:55.32 | TheViral | no other commands in between? |
| 03:55.42 | Tramp | basically yes. But if it doesn't work, repetition will not make it better. |
| 03:56.53 | Tramp | TheViral: Is this a PC-Card? |
| 03:57.04 | TheViral | it's in my laptop |
| 03:57.17 | TheViral | it was working fine before |
| 03:57.20 | TheViral | it just acted up now |
| 03:57.33 | Nyle | hi |
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| 03:59.25 | Tramp | TheViral: ok. and you said you checked essid and key |
| 04:00.26 | Nyle | simonrvn: ping |
| 04:01.31 | TheViral | gonna double double check |
| 04:03.02 | TheViral | brb, gonna move locations |
| 04:03.06 | TheViral | to my room |
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| 04:05.28 | puff | Hi. I install spamassassin/pyzor two months ago to filter spam on its way through postfix. The past few weeks I've been noticing an increasing amount of spam not being detected by spamassassin. I had got the impression somewhere that the install would update spamasssassin rules, but I can't find any script or cron job that invokes sa-update. |
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| 04:06.03 | puff | So I'm thinking about setting up a simple daily cron job to invoke sa-update. Figured I'd put it in /etc/spamassassin. Does this make sense? |
| 04:07.31 | sparr | id probably put it in /etc/cron.daily, but thats just me |
| 04:07.59 | penp | puff: makes sense as long as you remember where you put it :) in my opinion, anyway |
| 04:08.11 | penp | everyone has their own way of doing things |
| 04:08.38 | puff | Ah, I had assumed that files in cron.daily, etc, would be soft links to scripts that live elsewhere. I see I'm wrong. |
| 04:09.59 | sparr | the can be |
| 04:10.05 | sparr | dont think theres anything wrong with that approach |
| 04:10.50 | sparr | theres also /etc/cron.d, where you would put a crontab-entry-containing file pointing to your script that lives elsewhere |
| 04:10.56 | puff | Hm, checking my notes, I'm seeing that I used amavis to hook spamasassin into postfix. I find "amavisd-new" in cron.d and cron.daily. |
| 04:10.58 | sparr | many viable approaches |
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| 04:11.37 | sparr | thats the *nix way :) |
| 04:11.59 | puff | Hm, nope, the amavisd-new script doesn't invoke sa-update, it just invokes sa-clean and sa-sync. |
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| 04:13.08 | muhoo_ | AUUUUGHH! |
| 04:13.15 | muhoo_ | i just went out and wasted $30 on a bluetooth dongle |
| 04:13.17 | muhoo_ | Can't init device hci0: Connection timed out (110) |
| 04:13.24 | muhoo_ | i HATE wasting money |
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| 04:13.36 | muhoo_ | lsusb HANGS |
| 04:13.41 | puff | muhoo_: Hm, I haven't messed with bluetooth on debian, but I've gotten it working on ubuntu. |
| 04:13.42 | muhoo_ | it zombifies |
| 04:13.52 | muhoo_ | this is on sid |
| 04:14.04 | sparr | muhoo_: search for drivers, new kernels, third party work, etc. |
| 04:14.38 | muhoo_ | heh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565888 |
| 04:14.51 | muhoo_ | there is no answer |
| 04:14.59 | sparr | search harder |
| 04:15.03 | muhoo_ | "Without the device showing to the bluetooth handlers nor a working lsusb I can't do anything." |
| 04:15.15 | sparr | take it apart |
| 04:15.19 | sparr | identify the chipset |
| 04:15.32 | sparr | and stop making me store this in my paste buffer :) |
| 04:15.35 | sparr | My FOSS-driven anecdote of the day: My boss was stumped on how to replace ", " with newlines in a text file containing a long list on his mac. He asked me if I could do it, so in front of him I opened OOo (for lack of a straight GUI text editor with strong search capabilities on his MacBook), turned on RE search, find ", " replace "\n", Replace All, bam! Score one for non-Windows education. |
| 04:15.50 | muhoo_ | "If you get all zeros, then try restarting the bluez-utils service and try again." |
| 04:15.53 | muhoo_ | hmm, doesn't help |
| 04:16.57 | muhoo_ | "I've found an old post in a redhat list which describes what seems to be the |
| 04:16.58 | muhoo_ | very same problem, but sadly it got no replies:" |
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| 04:17.24 | TheViral_ | ok, I am back |
| 04:17.28 | TheViral_ | had some problems |
| 04:17.33 | muhoo_ | hahahahah |
| 04:17.39 | TheViral_ | tried moving my router to another location and the jack doesn't work tehre |
| 04:17.55 | muhoo_ | as soon as i remove the bluetooth dongle, ALL of my zombied lsusb instances all return at once |
| 04:18.01 | TheViral_ | so I tried to connect to an unsecured wireless here and it works again for that one |
| 04:18.06 | TheViral_ | won't let me use mine though? |
| 04:18.19 | Tramp | TheViral_: Ok. So you are still connected wired to your AP? |
| 04:18.21 | TheViral_ | and now I can configure ath0 with network tools |
| 04:18.25 | TheViral_ | no I am not |
| 04:18.31 | muhoo_ | aha! |
| 04:18.31 | TheViral_ | I an on wireless on someone else's ap |
| 04:18.33 | muhoo_ | pegasus 1-2:1.3: read_eprom_word failed |
| 04:18.36 | TheViral_ | am* |
| 04:18.38 | muhoo_ | this is what is hanging |
| 04:18.49 | muhoo_ | pegasus? |
| 04:18.55 | TheViral_ | I'm gonna move my router to the last working location and try from here |
| 04:19.03 | puff | sparr: Back in 95, I used to work on an environmental activism website hosting non-profit. |
| 04:19.34 | muhoo_ | wtf? |
| 04:19.39 | muhoo_ | it thinks it is a usb ethernet device? |
| 04:19.44 | muhoo_ | and loads the pegasus driver? |
| 04:19.56 | muhoo_ | hmm... i suspect dbus or udev fuckup |
| 04:20.06 | sparr | muhoo_: i suspect a hardware vendor fuckup |
| 04:20.08 | Tramp | TheViral_: Looks like a problem with association. Can you check on the router which wireless clients are connected? |
| 04:20.14 | muhoo_ | sparr: :-( |
| 04:20.24 | muhoo_ | i cannot afford to replace this. i can't return it. i am FUCKED |
| 04:20.31 | sparr | muhoo_: ive seen PCMCIA cards that identify as a USB Hub, with the device in question "attached" to the hub. pain in the ass. |
| 04:20.48 | muhoo_ | sparr: hmm, how do you fix that then? |
| 04:21.02 | puff | sparr: Buncha hippies. I had the damndest time getting them to learn to use emacs. Finally, one day they decided they were going to do a massive reorganization of their site. They were freaking out because they wanted to get it done in time for some big evet, so they were planning to spend 72 hours straight changing it all. |
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| 04:21.28 | sparr | muhoo_: pray to the driver gods |
| 04:21.46 | muhoo_ | ah |
| 04:21.47 | muhoo_ | ugh |
| 04:21.49 | sparr | muhoo_: ive been told they are suceptible to donations of hardware |
| 04:21.53 | muhoo_ | this is the one: http://www.nabble.com/-Bug-35072--NEW:-Belkin-bluetooth-adapter-prevents-booting-p14283750.html |
| 04:21.54 | puff | sparr: It was basically a somewhat clever directory-hierarchy-driven system. I went in to help them. They showed me a three page list of the new categories. I said "I see this was printed from a computer, I assume that means you have it in a file somewhere?" |
| 04:21.54 | sparr | i need drivers for an old video card right now |
| 04:21.59 | sparr | a card that i happen to have ~30 of :) |
| 04:22.12 | sparr | im trying to find someone who will take a dozen of the as payment for writing a driver |
| 04:22.29 | sparr | puff: i see where this is going :) been there |
| 04:22.30 | puff | sparr: Half an hour later I finished a bunch of regexps and wrote an emacs macro that generated a shell script that did the whole job in 30 seconds. |
| 04:22.40 | puff | sparr: They agreed to learn emacs :-) |
| 04:22.55 | sparr | muhoo_: have you investigated whats "on" the network that device is "connected to"? |
| 04:23.06 | sparr | puff: i never had the patience to learn emacs :( |
| 04:23.12 | puff | sparr: Do you use vi? |
| 04:23.15 | sparr | sometimes |
| 04:23.21 | puff | sparr: What do you use? |
| 04:23.29 | puff | sparr: There's a vi-emulation mode for emacs. |
| 04:23.32 | sparr | vi/nano equally much these days, kate more than either of them |
| 04:23.57 | muhoo_ | aha! |
| 04:24.02 | muhoo_ | blacklisting pegasus got lsusb to work |
| 04:24.04 | muhoo_ | yay |
| 04:24.09 | muhoo_ | fuck |
| 04:24.10 | puff | sparr: IRRC nano is a pico-replacement, and pico was a dumbed-down emacs interface, so... |
| 04:24.19 | muhoo_ | Bus 001 Device 014: ID 050d:0121 Belkin Components F5D5050 100Mbps Ethernet |
| 04:24.20 | TheViral_ | Tramp: I cannot unless I'm connected to it |
| 04:24.27 | muhoo_ | you idiot. you are NOT a 100mbps ethernet, you fuckup |
| 04:24.30 | muhoo_ | you are bluetooth. |
| 04:24.36 | muhoo_ | i see where the problem is now |
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| 04:24.57 | zinx | muhoo_: :o |
| 04:24.59 | muhoo_ | something, somewhere, is claiming this is an ethernet |
| 04:25.02 | TheViral_ | and if I'm connected to it...it's gonna show me on there anyways :p |
| 04:25.07 | Xenguy | puff: if you are weird, you *need* vim :-) |
| 04:25.30 | muhoo_ | YEAHH!!! |
| 04:25.38 | muhoo_ | it. is. alive! |
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| 04:26.47 | Xenguy | vim: Weird + Powerful = ... = Weird :-) |
| 04:26.54 | TheViral_ | Tramp: do you think my router thinks I'm connected already? |
| 04:27.06 | TheViral_ | Tramp: and won't let me connect now? |
| 04:27.12 | Xenguy | muhoo_: you use kate, yes? |
| 04:27.16 | TheViral_ | Tramp: it's already been reset... |
| 04:27.22 | muhoo_ | ~start an editor flamewar |
| 04:27.31 | muhoo_ | !start an editor flamewar |
| 04:27.33 | Xenguy | emacs sux! =) |
| 04:27.37 | Tramp | TheViral_: no. I think the only sure method to verify your association is, to check on the router |
| 04:27.51 | muhoo_ | Xenguy: i'm one of those emacs hippies |
| 04:28.00 | Xenguy | muhoo_: coder? |
| 04:28.11 | TheViral_ | but how do I do that, I mean...if I plug in to it..it's gonna show me associated right? |
| 04:28.12 | muhoo_ | Xenguy: fuck no. musician :-) |
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| 04:28.22 | Xenguy | muhoo_: hah, that's great |
| 04:28.22 | muhoo_ | but, yes, i have done coding. |
| 04:28.54 | Xenguy | muhoo_: usually it is programmers that like emacs I find |
| 04:28.54 | muhoo_ | Xenguy: here, have some music made with debian, exclusively : http://www.restivo.org/blog/ |
| 04:28.54 | Tramp | TheViral_: no idea how, in the admin-UI of your router, you can see, which clients are associated. That depends on the router. |
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| 04:29.13 | Xenguy | muhoo_: tx |
| 04:29.27 | TheViral_ | my mom would need to find her cable and get some powr in her laptop to do it so it shows if I'm there when I'm not connected or something |
| 04:29.35 | Tramp | TheViral_: but you sure have to be connected to the router, to access its UI - thus me asking if you are still connected. |
| 04:29.44 | TheViral_ | cause if I can get internet through the wired connection and I plug in...it's only gonna show what I know |
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| 04:29.56 | TheViral_ | no I am not connected right now |
| 04:30.19 | Tramp | TheViral_: associated != connected. Associated is the "wireless" Layer2-thingy. |
| 04:30.46 | TheViral_ | oh |
| 04:31.05 | Tramp | TheViral_: the wireless wire, so to say. |
| 04:31.21 | puff | Anybody familiar with openvpn and the like? |
| 04:31.30 | TheViral_ | ok well then I'll brb! |
| 04:31.52 | TheViral_ | wait |
| 04:31.59 | TheViral_ | so I try to connect wirelessly? |
| 04:32.03 | TheViral_ | and plug in at the same time |
| 04:32.08 | TheViral_ | and check what it shows on the router? |
| 04:32.48 | Tramp | TheViral_: That's what I have in mind |
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| 04:34.00 | Sebo | how can i list all running proceses?? |
| 04:34.05 | TheViral_ | ps -e |
| 04:34.12 | Sebo | thx |
| 04:34.34 | Tramp | fast learner .... |
| 04:34.50 | TheViral_ | me? |
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| 04:35.28 | Tramp | yea |
| 04:35.33 | TheViral_ | hehe |
| 04:35.35 | TheViral_ | k, brb |
| 04:36.18 | Nyle | its only 11:30 and im soooo sleepy |
| 04:37.04 | TheViral_ | I've been up since 9 am and I slept 4 hours last night and I moved my house today |
| 04:37.09 | TheViral_ | :) |
| 04:37.12 | TheViral_ | I'm sleepy too! |
| 04:37.26 | TheViral_ | Tramp: Ok....here's an odd thing.... |
| 04:37.38 | Tramp | TheViral_: can hardly wait to hear it ... |
| 04:37.45 | TheViral_ | I tried to connect wirelessly again before I went to plug it in... |
| 04:37.50 | TheViral_ | and it works? |
| 04:37.52 | muhoo_ | 3 |
| 04:38.07 | Tramp | TheViral_: great. Glad I could help. |
| 04:38.19 | TheViral_ | Tramp: I'm not sure why it works now haha |
| 04:38.29 | TheViral_ | Tramp: almost bugs me not knowing why |
| 04:38.37 | Nyle | damn |
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| 04:38.51 | Nyle | I think its probably because of tequilla and trees |
| 04:39.02 | Nyle | I only had 1 shot |
| 04:39.03 | Tramp | TheViral_: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. |
| 04:39.21 | Tramp | or something like that. |
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| 04:39.54 | TheViral_ | the odd thing is when I access my router, it still says bell |
| 04:39.57 | Nyle | I agree |
| 04:39.57 | TheViral_ | but the interface changed |
| 04:40.02 | Nyle | I thought I was the only one |
| 04:40.06 | Nyle | take a cell phoen back in time |
| 04:40.08 | TheViral_ | maybe a firmware update? |
| 04:40.09 | Nyle | or not even back in time |
| 04:40.20 | thizzle | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/bt-cd/ <--- are there really 20 debian cds? :( |
| 04:40.25 | Nyle | take a cell phone or radio or tv back to like 1400 |
| 04:40.28 | Tramp | TheViral_: when you run iwconfig ath0 again, what is the MAC now? |
| 04:40.32 | Nyle | they will claim it as magic |
| 04:40.42 | maddash | HAHA, they tried getting rid of me by changing the WEP key, but I broke into their AP anyway |
| 04:40.51 | Nyle | maddash: ssshhhh |
| 04:41.00 | Tramp | TheViral_: (i.e. the MAC after "Access Point:") |
| 04:41.12 | Nyle | maddash: I own 18 networks in my apartment building |
| 04:41.13 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:41.14 | maddash | Nyle: and you know what the most pathetic part was? it took only 20000 IVs. pwnd! |
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| 04:41.28 | Nyle | maddash: which nic? |
| 04:41.32 | maddash | Nyle: you animal |
| 04:41.37 | maddash | Nyle: ipw2200 |
| 04:41.42 | Nyle | hm |
| 04:41.51 | Nyle | you had to patch the driver for injection? |
| 04:42.02 | Nyle | I have ipw2200 in my old hp machine |
| 04:42.16 | maddash | yes, but even then, I can only do -3 (arp replay?), -4 (chop chop) |
| 04:42.31 | TheViral_ | well, see here's the odd thing, it still shows the other connection |
| 04:42.36 | Nyle | how many pps? |
| 04:42.39 | TheViral_ | the open one that I was conencted to |
| 04:42.39 | Nyle | average |
| 04:42.49 | maddash | Nyle: 200+/- 50 |
| 04:42.51 | TheViral_ | but I can connect to the router and access full admin options |
| 04:42.55 | maddash | with chop chop, that is |
| 04:42.59 | Nyle | damn |
| 04:43.02 | TheViral_ | and it's still bell even though the connection says linksys |
| 04:43.07 | Tramp | TheViral_: well, very open router then. |
| 04:43.09 | Nyle | I used a bcm43xx |
| 04:43.19 | Nyle | and ddwrt+hacks |
| 04:43.22 | Nyle | firmware hacks |
| 04:43.37 | maddash | with that card, you should be able to do any of the 5 attacks, right? |
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| 04:43.47 | Nyle | well yes in theory |
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| 04:44.24 | maddash | isn't fake-auth enough to break through most WEP APs, if not all? |
| 04:44.42 | Nyle | 1 doesn't work for me |
| 04:45.08 | Nyle | there is one really secure network though |
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| 04:45.22 | Nyle | its called 'Virus Detected' tkip + wpa blahblah |
| 04:45.57 | Nyle | there was this ssid called 'psylocin' and I looked around and found out who they were |
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| 04:46.03 | Nyle | a bunch of hippies in my building |
| 04:46.15 | Nyle | and not the kind you wanna hang out with |
| 04:46.23 | Nyle | otherwise i'd be busy scoring shiz |
| 04:46.55 | Nyle | and you wouldn't believe me if I told you |
| 04:47.10 | Tramp | TheViral_: See, ifup/ifdown is configured through /etc/network/interfaces. Make sure you have your parameters in there (wireless-foobar...). Alternatively configure it manually with iwconfig (see manpage). Check on the router, that the associatio works. Then you should be all set. |
| 04:47.12 | Nyle | 16 out of those 18 networks have defautl passworsd on the routers |
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| 04:47.21 | Nyle | its amazing |
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| 04:47.33 | Nyle | couple of these people were setup by geeksquad |
| 04:47.43 | thizzle | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/bt-cd/ <--- are there really 20 debian cds? |
| 04:47.44 | Nyle | that should show you how well geeksquad works |
| 04:47.49 | maddash | haha, "geek squad" |
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| 04:48.02 | mean-jean | thizzle, i was wondering the same thing...i was about to ask that |
| 04:48.08 | maddash | Nyle: are you able to break through tkip? |
| 04:48.12 | TheViral_ | Tramp: Ok, I must give up for tonight because I do not have access to the router anymore, my mom wants to sleep |
| 04:48.14 | Nyle | not I |
| 04:48.17 | Nyle | its not worth my time |
| 04:48.22 | TheViral_ | Tramp: it's in her room |
| 04:48.29 | Nyle | i'd have to learn a lot and then some |
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| 04:48.38 | Tramp | TheViral_: did you see the last thing I said about ifup/ifdown? |
| 04:48.42 | TheViral_ | Tramp: I retried connecting to the router but it messed up again |
| 04:48.44 | TheViral_ | no I did not |
| 04:48.49 | Tramp | TheViral_: See, ifup/ifdown is configured through /etc/network/interfaces. Make sure you have your parameters in there (wireless-foobar...). Alternatively configure it manually with iwconfig (see manpage). Check on the router, that the associatio works. Then you should be all set. |
| 04:48.59 | maddash | Nyle: not really. it's just a brute-force dictionary attack on their password |
| 04:49.10 | mean-jean | which debian cd do i download of all those? I'm sure I don't need twenty |
| 04:49.18 | thizzle | same |
| 04:49.20 | maddash | Nyle: but it'll take FOREVER if they've put in a strong password |
| 04:49.22 | Nyle | i don't even know what tkip is |
| 04:49.24 | thizzle | i installed the shizzle off of four floppies before. |
| 04:49.26 | \amethyst | mean-jean: the first one, or just the netinst |
| 04:49.28 | Nyle | never bothered to look it up |
| 04:49.32 | Tramp | TheViral_: since you can so easily connect to other open APs, I think your interfaces-file may be configured incorrectly |
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| 04:49.38 | \amethyst | mean-jean: assuming you're going to have internet access when you install |
| 04:49.54 | TheViral_ | Tramp: can it change when connecting to another ap? |
| 04:50.11 | mean-jean | \amethyst, I have a wireless card in the PC that ubuntu recognized out of the box...don't know if debian will, all i had to do was find my network and enter the wep |
| 04:50.26 | TheViral_ | Tramp: or maybe when I went into hibernate earlier, it changed something |
| 04:50.42 | Tramp | TheViral_: yeah, just define different "names" (I think they are called stanzas" in your interfaces file. It's in the manpage of interfaces |
| 04:50.56 | mean-jean | \amethyst, what are all the other cd's for? |
| 04:50.57 | hyperyoda | hey, trying to setup xhost to use remote app on my local display, i setup everything and read on debian list i must remove "-nolisten tcp" from /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc and i did that and restarted X but when I do ps i still see X running with those options, "/usr/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7" and i get same error when i try to open on my DISPLAY, "_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: e |
| 04:52.03 | TheViral_ | Tramp: this is what mine is like |
| 04:52.06 | TheViral_ | Tramp: http://pastebin.com/d53d2f5e1 |
| 04:52.13 | Nyle | hyperyoda: do you have gdm or kdm or xdm or something |
| 04:52.28 | hyperyoda | Nyle: gdm |
| 04:52.39 | Nyle | hyperyoda: then modify /etc/gdm/gdm.conf |
| 04:52.43 | Nyle | i think thats it |
| 04:52.47 | hyperyoda | Nyle: ah thanks dude |
| 04:53.02 | Tramp | TheViral_: hmm. looks good to me - and how do you connect to an open AP? |
| 04:54.40 | Nyle | hyperyoda: the startx script uses xserverrc and uses that X -blahblah command. gdm uses its own command in gdm.conf to launch X |
| 04:54.53 | mean-jean | what are all of the other isos for (the other 20 files for Debian)? |
| 04:54.54 | Nyle | but then again, what do I know |
| 04:54.55 | Nyle | I don't use gnome |
| 04:54.58 | Nyle | or gdm |
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| 04:55.21 | Nyle | mean-jean: the rest of the packages and you will never have all of them on one machine ever |
| 04:55.31 | hyperyoda | Nyle: yeah, i just checked /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and don't see any options in there relating to "-nolisten tcp" |
| 04:55.33 | Nyle | mean-jean: get the first cd or netinst and then install stuff form online |
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| 04:55.50 | hyperyoda | Nyle: so it must be setting it somewhere else, hmm |
| 04:56.07 | Nyle | are you sure that X isn't already opening a port |
| 04:56.09 | mean-jean | Nyle, I'll go with the first. Thanks for the help. Do you know if Debian has support for wireless cards out of the box, Ubuntu read mine? |
| 04:56.37 | maddash | mean-jean: what card do you possess? |
| 04:56.40 | Nyle | hyperyoda: check with netstat |
| 04:56.55 | hyperyoda | Nyle: well after i made the changes and rebooted when i try to have app connect to my local display it gives same X11 error and ps shows X running with same "-nolisten tcp" |
| 04:57.09 | mean-jean | maddash, Dynex wireless G card...not sure on the model number, if you need it i can run and look (on a different PC right now) |
| 04:57.10 | hyperyoda | Nyle: ok |
| 04:57.18 | Nyle | hm |
| 04:57.18 | Tramp | hyperyoda: the default-gdm-conf is in /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf. The /etc-file just overwrites the defaults |
| 04:57.25 | Nyle | if it runs with those options then hm |
| 04:57.30 | maddash | hyperyoda: look for Xsession in /etc/X11/gdm |
| 04:57.37 | hyperyoda | Nyle: hmm netstat is showing the connection |
| 04:57.51 | hyperyoda | Nyle: tcp 0 0 pitts-69-72-12-97.:4495 TELLURIUM.CLUB.CC.c:ssh ESTABLISHED |
| 04:57.55 | Tramp | hyperyoda: I think it is "DisallowTCP=true" which must be changed to false |
| 04:58.03 | hyperyoda | Nyle: but i see same error on remote side and nothing displays on local side |
| 04:58.12 | hyperyoda | Tramp: oh ok set that in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf ? |
| 04:58.15 | Tramp | hyperyoda: in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf of course, not in the defaults.conf |
| 04:58.21 | Tramp | hyperyoda: yes. |
| 04:58.28 | hyperyoda | Tramp: nod, thx |
| 04:58.40 | Nyle | hyperyoda: anyway, it is definitely gdm related as I had previously said |
| 04:59.00 | Nyle | I don't use gdm so I dont know anyway |
| 04:59.13 | maddash | mean-jean: geez, what am I saying? if it works in ubuntu, then it'll (definitely) work in debian as well -- just make sure you have the right kernel module and userspace tools |
| 04:59.16 | Nyle | I think KDE > sliced bread |
| 04:59.55 | maddash | hyperyoda: you want to get rid of "-notcp" parameter when it is launched by gdm, right? |
| 05:00.00 | mean-jean | maddash...I'm still pretty new to linux, but I'll do what I can :) |
| 05:00.06 | hyperyoda | maddash: correct |
| 05:00.26 | hyperyoda | maddash: "-nolisten tcp" that is yes |
| 05:00.27 | Nyle | hyperyoda: I use a highly configured .nanorc and when its easy for me to see when comments are color coded. I find it easier that way, to browse through the config files reading comments and looking at settings |
| 05:00.37 | maddash | hyperyoda: then, `editor /etc/X11/gdm/Xsession' |
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| 05:00.44 | hyperyoda | Nyle: nano eh, may look into that |
| 05:00.55 | Nyle | nano is shizboo |
| 05:01.03 | Nyle | pwnage |
| 05:01.15 | hyperyoda | maddash: running lenny and there is no /etc/X11/gdm/ |
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| 05:01.34 | Nyle | hyperyoda: why don't you juse use ssh -X ? |
| 05:01.41 | maddash | hm, this is different that ubuntu |
| 05:01.44 | maddash | than* |
| 05:01.51 | Ngojo | I need help |
| 05:01.54 | TheViral_ | Tramp: basically I do iwconfig essid and then the name and in this case ap and the address cause there are two with the same name here and then key off |
| 05:01.56 | Nyle | you know this xhost is unsecure and unencrypted |
| 05:01.57 | Tramp | hyperyoda: what I suggested did not work? |
| 05:02.05 | Nyle | hyperyoda: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 05:02.31 | maddash | hyperyoda: sans "/X11" |
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| 05:02.54 | Nyle | Tramp: poke |
| 05:02.55 | lwizardl | hi |
| 05:03.01 | Nyle | hi |
| 05:03.05 | Tramp | TheViral_: ah - ok. See ifup basically does the same with the parameters form the interfaces-file. So it /should/ work. If it doesn't - my suggestion is, check on your AP |
| 05:03.09 | Nyle | I'm listening to a song about a wizard |
| 05:03.10 | Nyle | :D |
| 05:03.11 | hyperyoda | Nyle: i tried "ssh -X remotehost -l user -f /path/to/command" and it ran but nothing displayed on my local display |
| 05:03.15 | maddash | hyperyoda: forget it, this is vastly different that xdm |
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| 05:03.26 | Sebo | how to check which runlevel I'm in?? |
| 05:03.28 | lwizardl | how do I install udf 2.50 support on kernel 2.6.22-14-rt |
| 05:03.37 | Claudio32m | is slackware more or less like debian? |
| 05:03.43 | Claudio32m | i converted from fc to debian and like debian |
| 05:03.58 | hyperyoda | Tramp: gonna try it shortly. was answering follow up questions, i guess i'll add that to the [Security] section of gdm.conf, nothing is listed in that section now |
| 05:04.08 | Nyle | $>ssh -X stoned@laptop xterm -bg black -fg white |
| 05:04.10 | maddash | Claudio32m: yes, slackware = debian - {any useful package management} |
| 05:04.14 | Nyle | it showes up here |
| 05:04.28 | TheViral_ | Tramp: ok, tomorrow I'll check the wireless thing and if I can't figure it out, I'm gonna try a hard reset or return to factory defaults |
| 05:04.31 | Tramp | hyperyoda: ah, ok. |
| 05:04.35 | Nyle | hyperyoda: $>ssh -X stoned@laptop xterm -bg black -fg white |
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| 05:04.40 | Claudio32m | maddash - so basically thats the main differences between distros? their package managment? |
| 05:04.42 | Nyle | I dunno man |
| 05:04.46 | Nyle | I'm tired |
| 05:04.50 | punsad | anyone know what's the best live cd these days for system recovery? |
| 05:04.52 | Tramp | TheViral_: Yeah. Probably your Mom changed the Key 8). |
| 05:04.56 | Nyle | let these two fine upstanding gents help you out |
| 05:05.20 | maddash | hyperyoda: try ssh with "-v -v", for the error msgs |
| 05:05.21 | TheViral_ | Tramp: I doubt it :P she doesn't even know how to access the thing! :) |
| 05:05.38 | hyperyoda | Nyle: well maybe cause i am specifiying a binary that is in $HOME directory i specified full path when i tried it with ssh |
| 05:05.47 | Tramp | TheViral_: well, she's probably just pretending .... |
| 05:05.48 | maddash | Claudio32m: and the packages themselves as well |
| 05:05.50 | hyperyoda | maddash: ok |
| 05:05.57 | TheViral_ | Tramp: The odd thing is that the key is the same on the AP as I have in a file that I'm copying from |
| 05:06.00 | Nyle | hyperyoda: verbose will help |
| 05:06.12 | Nyle | Psycroptic - The Isle Of Disenchantment - The Labyrinth |
| 05:06.15 | Nyle | oh whooops |
| 05:06.18 | Nyle | my bad |
| 05:06.21 | Claudio32m | maddash but isnt a package like mc the same in all distros? |
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| 05:06.47 | maddash | Claudio32m: debian package maintainers like to add their own patches |
| 05:06.55 | Claudio32m | ahh ok |
| 05:07.19 | maddash | Claudio32m: sometimes for compatibility, sometimes out of boredom, but it'll work essentially like the way it should |
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| 05:07.49 | Claudio32m | is SCO out of business? |
| 05:07.53 | Claudio32m | or they still around? |
| 05:08.06 | ameyer | I think they're still around |
| 05:08.18 | Nyle | I was reading dragonlance earlier |
| 05:08.22 | ameyer | although they're in bankruptcy, last I heard |
| 05:08.23 | Nyle | I haven't read that since I was in jr high |
| 05:08.25 | Nyle | its fun |
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| 05:08.39 | ameyer | they're basically gonna be owned by novell when it's all said and done |
| 05:08.40 | hyperyoda | maddash: here is debug, it seems it worked but nothing shows up on my local display, http://pastebin.ca/818254 |
| 05:09.51 | Claudio32m | here's an interesting question, is it possible to get the character set right using Putty in windows when i access my debian boxes via ssh, either gcc messes up or aptitude messes up, its one or the other the way I have it set up |
| 05:10.08 | Claudio32m | is there a terminal mode for both |
| 05:10.51 | hyperyoda | maddash: i spoke too soon :) it had more output, http://pastebin.ca/818256 |
| 05:11.03 | Tramp | On September 14, 2007, The SCO Group, Inc alongwith its affiliate filed a voluntary petition for reorganization under Chapter 11 in the US Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware. |
| 05:11.17 | Tramp | I wouldn't buy stocks |
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| 05:11.33 | hyperyoda | Tramp: they deserve to crash and burn for attacking Linux hehe |
| 05:11.56 | muhoo_ | where, oh where, might i find the debian package which provides this: /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_bluetooth.so |
| 05:12.03 | muhoo_ | alsa-plugins does NOT |
| 05:12.03 | iKernel | Has anyone ever tried hosing their system by doing a chmod -R 0777 / and recovering their system to a useable state? |
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| 05:12.41 | maddash | hyperyoda: sounds like your "/path/to/command" is misbehaving |
| 05:12.57 | Tramp | iKernel: some may have. If yes, they all have failed. |
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| 05:13.06 | maddash | hyperyoda: try something simple: ssh -X user@host "xeyes" |
| 05:13.14 | iKernel | Tramp, surely some nerd has managed to succeed? |
| 05:13.43 | Tramp | iKernel: not without a Backup. |
| 05:14.19 | Tramp | !unix lessons |
| 05:14.19 | dpkg | from memory, unix lessons is (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 05:14.37 | Tramp | iKernel: see (1) and (2) in particular |
| 05:15.12 | hyperyoda | maddash: BTW i checked /etc/gdm/Xsession and don't see any "-nolisten tcp" in there, it specifies OPTIONFILE=/etc/X11/Xsession.options and i checked there and also it's not in there |
| 05:16.02 | maddash | hyperyoda: as root, 'grep -rn nolisten /etc/*" |
| 05:16.52 | susanne- | iKernel: As a parrot I knew once said, "whoashit <whistle>". You might consider #7 up there as well, so as to accomplish #2, and then format and reinstall. |
| 05:16.58 | iKernel | Tramp, well, I've never hosed my system in that way before, and don't plan to |
| 05:17.13 | Nyle | HAHAHAHA |
| 05:17.30 | Tramp | iKernel: good for you then 8) |
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| 05:17.33 | Nyle | either the pot is awesome or susanne- is hilarious |
| 05:17.59 | Nyle | hehe whoahshit <whistle> I can just immagine a parrot doing that |
| 05:18.12 | Nyle | my mom has an african grey and another huge talking parrot its crazy |
| 05:18.16 | iKernel | I never back up my data, lol |
| 05:18.33 | Nyle | I don't have to backup my data |
| 05:18.41 | Nyle | most important stuff goes into gmailfs |
| 05:18.44 | iKernel | oh yeah, I have once, when my windows laptop nearly died |
| 05:18.59 | muhoo_ | it REALLY REALLY pisses me off, that whenever i search for a file, trying to find the debian package that builds it, google turns up fucking RPMFIND.NET |
| 05:19.00 | iKernel | Nyle, yeah, but you have to upload all that crap using your connection... |
| 05:19.11 | Nyle | iKernel: so? |
| 05:19.19 | iKernel | Nyle, australia :P |
| 05:19.23 | Nyle | I can upload a few hundred mb if its worth it |
| 05:19.24 | hyperyoda | Tramp: /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf has "DisallowTCP=true" so i will add "DisallowTCP=false" to /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, i was wondering why /etc/gdm/gdm.conf has hardly anything set in there yet /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf has tons of things set |
| 05:19.32 | amphi | muhoo_: why not use apt-file? |
| 05:19.52 | Tramp | hyperyoda: now you know. It moved not long ago (probably etch->lenny) |
| 05:20.11 | Tramp | hyperyoda: I think etch has a fully blown gdm.conf |
| 05:20.36 | hyperyoda | maddash: ah |
| 05:20.39 | muhoo_ | amphi: apt-file turns up nothing for that file :-( |
| 05:20.48 | Tramp | People probably think, X- and DM configuration is not yet hard enough. |
| 05:21.07 | amphi | muhoo_: ah ;) |
| 05:21.08 | TheViral_ | Tramp: The message I get when I ifup...I found another case of it on the net...for them they fixed it by attaching a cable on the card that lets the lan wake up the computer haha.... |
| 05:21.13 | iKernel | Nyle, stumped you on that one, haven't I? :P |
| 05:21.20 | hyperyoda | maddash: maybe it wants the path in quotes since i have argument to the command i'm running as in "/remote/dir/binary -r foo" |
| 05:21.26 | TheViral_ | Tramp: Makes me fear that my problem is related to the fact that I hibernated earlier |
| 05:21.57 | Nyle | ? |
| 05:21.59 | Tramp | TheViral_: hmm. I doubt so - you mean the dhcp-thingy, right? I think, its on a lower level. |
| 05:22.10 | Nyle | fuck australia |
| 05:22.30 | Nyle | well not really |
| 05:22.32 | TheViral_ | Tramp: Yeah the dhcp thingy.. |
| 05:22.33 | Nyle | i like tasmania |
| 05:22.37 | amphi | TheViral_: if that is the problem, removing and modprobing the module should rfix it |
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| 05:22.45 | iKernel | Nyle, we're getting fibre optics to the node soon |
| 05:22.59 | Nyle | iKernel: cool |
| 05:23.10 | Nyle | australians make some good metal |
| 05:23.15 | iKernel | Nyle, still, we'll still be limited by the damned telephone lines |
| 05:23.22 | Nyle | psycroptic, abramelin |
| 05:23.24 | Nyle | etc. |
| 05:23.27 | TheViral_ | amphi: How do I remove it? |
| 05:23.28 | Claudio32m | where can i get correct terminal setting configuration for putty ssh to debian box? |
| 05:23.53 | TheViral_ | amphi: and what do I modprobe exactly...I don't remember the name |
| 05:23.53 | iKernel | Nyle, I don't listen to australian metal, I listen to british or american metal |
| 05:23.53 | muhoo_ | i'll tell ya why |
| 05:23.55 | Tramp | TheViral_: You can try that. But since you connect fine to other APs, I doubt that it helps. |
| 05:24.00 | muhoo_ | becuase it ISN'T IN THE PACKAGE |
| 05:24.10 | Nyle | you're missin out on some good stuff |
| 05:24.13 | muhoo_ | bluez-utils isn't configured in debian to build those files |
| 05:24.36 | muhoo_ | i can force it to by dicking with configure options in debian/rules, but it won't put them in the package. |
| 05:24.46 | muhoo_ | looks like i have to mess with some more stuff in debian/ dir |
| 05:24.59 | iKernel | Nyle, meh, I'm sort of growing out of music right now. let me see of soad still floats my boat |
| 05:25.06 | TheViral_ | amphi: What are the commands to remove and modprobe it? |
| 05:25.11 | TheViral_ | it's for my wireless |
| 05:25.18 | TheViral_ | and it's madwifi..if that helps |
| 05:25.19 | Nyle | iKernel: ahh, that kinda 'metal' |
| 05:25.27 | Nyle | iKernel: nah, we're not on the same page |
| 05:25.32 | hyperyoda | maddash: tried something simple like u suggested, ssh -X user@host "xeyes", did not work, command just seemed to hang and nothing ever displayed, saw same debug messages |
| 05:25.52 | simonrvn | Nyle: pong |
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| 05:26.02 | iKernel | Nyle, easy to play, and easy to enjoy :) |
| 05:26.16 | Nyle | iKernel: when I say metal,I mean like, metal. not crazy hairdo suburban teenage cool wannabe bullshit |
| 05:26.20 | Nyle | ew |
| 05:26.22 | Nyle | simonrvn: hey man whats up |
| 05:26.31 | hoxu | !turday |
| 05:26.32 | dpkg | You are in a room crowded with gleeful lunatics and frustrated long-bearded fellows. You can see the <saturday> factoid hanging on the wall and <sunday> is lurking right around the corner. Exits: </part>, </quit> |
| 05:26.35 | iKernel | Nyle, so you mean you don't want like slipknot? |
| 05:26.47 | Nyle | ugh, slipnot sucks |
| 05:26.48 | muhoo_ | here's some metal made in linux: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGc_4DeKBN4 |
| 05:26.48 | Nyle | #music |
| 05:26.54 | maddash | hyperyoda: does your remote box permit x11 tunneling? |
| 05:27.27 | Nyle | muhoo_: hahaha, thats not metal thats a joke |
| 05:27.49 | simonrvn | not much. had to trudge in some icky kinda snow for a good 45 minutes - 1 hour earlier |
| 05:27.53 | muhoo_ | interestingly, the project this gubbar is working on is.... tryign to get his bluetooth headset working in linux! |
| 05:28.17 | muhoo_ | and getting VERY frustrated |
| 05:28.48 | muhoo_ | ok, stupid debian/rules question: where to i tell dh_whatever which files to install? |
| 05:29.13 | simonrvn | not precise enough to give a proper answer |
| 05:29.24 | Nyle | why |
| 05:29.26 | Nyle | oh |
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| 05:30.00 | Nyle | hm well I went to work for a little bit and then my boss said you look horrible and he touched me and said i have a fever and i should go home |
| 05:30.29 | Nyle | simonrvn: its gonna be bad tomororw they say, storm and snow n stuff |
| 05:30.53 | simonrvn | yeh, should see the radar map |
| 05:30.59 | hyperyoda | maddash: here is results of grep: http://pastebin.ca/818280 |
| 05:31.08 | Nyle | simonrvn: i think I might have pissed off one of the DD |
| 05:31.20 | simonrvn | http://icons.wunderground.com/data/640x480/2xradara5.gif |
| 05:31.38 | simonrvn | Nyle: :/ |
| 05:31.41 | Nyle | simonrvn: he was over at my house and I had to restart X and he saw it was kubuntu and not debian |
| 05:31.44 | Nyle | :( |
| 05:32.10 | Nyle | he offered me a cd of debian etch and I kinda didn't |
| 05:32.25 | simonrvn | why would he be pissed at that? |
| 05:32.35 | simonrvn | oh |
| 05:32.37 | muhoo_ | simonrvn: what i mean is: the bluez-utils package builds some files. it puts them in tmp/usr/lib. how do i tell the debian package to include these in the deb? |
| 05:32.39 | Nyle | just saying, i shoulda taken the cd |
| 05:32.47 | muhoo_ | because, the files aren't being included in the deb |
| 05:32.58 | iKernel | I use lenny |
| 05:33.21 | simonrvn | dh_install -> foo.install -> stick in path they should go |
| 05:33.24 | iKernel | but I did an apt-get dist-upgrade to get from etch to lenny |
| 05:33.32 | hyperyoda | Tramp: yeah i see it moved over in lenny |
| 05:33.33 | simonrvn | foo is name of package/deb |
| 05:33.43 | iKernel | and before that I downloaded a net install disk which I installed etch with |
| 05:33.46 | iKernel | so yeah |
| 05:33.52 | iKernel | and everything works fine |
| 05:34.54 | simonrvn | (like usr/lib for instance) |
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| 05:35.00 | hyperyoda | maddash: the remote box i don't have root, just regular luser account, how can i test if it permits x11 tunneling? |
| 05:35.29 | Tramp | hyperyoda: actually, it's not a bad thing. This splitting makes it easier to add new options to the default-config without forcing the user to merge them manually into his modified custom-config |
| 05:35.52 | hyperyoda | Tramp: ah yeah |
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| 05:36.36 | Tramp | hyperyoda: when you run ssh with -vv, where does it hang? It also should tell you, if the remote server accepts the X-Forwarding request |
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| 05:37.52 | Tramp | !tell soulkiller about away |
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| 05:38.38 | maddash | hyperyoda: "grep X11Forwarding /etc/ssh/sshd_config" on the remote box |
| 05:38.48 | simonrvn | Nyle: it looks like it's right on top of nyc, the edge of it |
| 05:38.56 | Nyle | up |
| 05:38.58 | Nyle | yup |
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| 05:40.35 | hyperyoda | Tramp: after it does "debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing." i see "debug2: channel 0: request x11-req confirm 0", does that mean it failed? after i enter passwd it does nothing for like 3 minutes until it finally exists: http://pastebin.ca/818286 |
| 05:40.40 | hyperyoda | maddash: ok checking |
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| 05:41.07 | hyperyoda | maddash: X11Forwarding yes |
| 05:41.09 | punsad | exit |
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| 05:41.46 | Tramp | hyperyoda: no, I think the "confirm 0" means ok. |
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| 05:41.48 | muhoo_ | simonrvn: thanks |
| 05:43.22 | hyperyoda | Tramp: i changed gdm.conf i will restart gdm now and see if that makes a difference |
| 05:43.25 | hyperyoda | ok brb |
| 05:43.48 | muhoo_ | simonrvn: will it create parents? |
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| 05:44.23 | muhoo_ | i.e. if i put debian/tmp/usr/lib/alsa-lib/* will it create the alsa-lib folder if it does not exist? |
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| 05:50.01 | gamag | what is the best mailing list where I can post Debian questions? |
| 05:50.25 | techrush | depends on the question there are like 50 debian related mailing lists |
| 05:50.34 | jello | gamag: start with debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 05:52.21 | gamag | jello: thanks. what if I have some question that is more about linux in general and less specific to debian-user |
| 05:52.37 | gamag | is debian-user still ok? or should I post it in some linux mailing list? |
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| 05:53.15 | jello | gamag: it's probably ok there... care to ask here? |
| 05:53.47 | katyush-free | hi, is it possible for my ISP to block port 80 but allow me all other ports? none of my browsers work on both laptop and desktop but i can get here... |
| 05:53.50 | gamag | jello: no! no problems right now. but many times in office where I can't post in IRC, i feel like asking. that's why I am asking about a mailing list. |
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| 05:54.48 | jello | katyush-free: anything is possible, but that sounds particularly boneheaded... |
| 05:55.06 | katyush-free | jello, well i'm from shanghai... |
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| 05:55.41 | katyush-free | jello, is there anyway i can check it? |
| 05:55.41 | jello | katyush-free: ah, in that case, it's not only possible but likely! |
| 05:55.41 | jello | katyush-free: run nmap |
| 05:55.48 | jello | katyush-free: it'll scan all the ports and tell you which are open... |
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| 05:56.35 | jello | katyush-free: port 80 outbound to all IPs, or only certain ones... |
| 05:57.24 | Tramp | In this case, maybe especially in Shanghai, something less noisy than netcat would be preferable .... |
| 05:57.36 | Tramp | aeh nmap. |
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| 05:57.55 | jello | Tramp: good point... |
| 05:57.55 | hyperyoda | hey guys, since changing gdm.conf the X server is now running without "-nolisten tcp": /usr/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth vt7 yet i tried running xeyes on remote host and it's just hanging there :( here is debug: http://pastebin.ca/818298 and on local host i made sure i did "xhost +tellurium.club.cc.cmu.edu" and on remote host (tellurium) i did: export DISPLAY=69.72.12.97:0.0 |
| 05:58.09 | mackss | can someone help me? i think my processor is overheating. "localhost kernel: CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode" |
| 05:58.21 | Tramp | hyperyoda: that's not the right display |
| 05:58.24 | mackss | that keeps getting spammed into my shell |
| 05:58.47 | Tramp | hyperyoda: on the remote host, the display is something like ":0.7", set by sshd |
| 05:58.52 | katyush-free | jello i run nmap -v 192.168.1.101 and got "host appears to be good port 68/tcp open" |
| 05:58.53 | hyperyoda | sorry here is the full paste, that one was cut off: http://pastebin.ca/818300 |
| 05:59.08 | hyperyoda | Tramp: well how do i find out what display to set it to on my remote host? |
| 05:59.36 | Tramp | hyperyoda: When you login, just echo $DISPLAY. That's the "fake" display the client connects to |
| 06:00.20 | hyperyoda | Tramp: wait i didnt use ssh, i used regular xhost on local end, setenv DISPLAY on remote end |
| 06:00.29 | katyush-free | maybe my router is dead...i will try to disconnect it |
| 06:00.38 | jello | katyush-free: maybe... |
| 06:00.39 | Tramp | Tramp: It is set by sshd and sshd opens the associated port (e.g. 6007) and the client connects to it. Then sshd forwards to ssh and ssh sends it to your local display (eg :0.0). that's how it works |
| 06:00.48 | hyperyoda | Tramp: err wait yes i did, nevermind lol, confused for a sec i did use ssh :) |
| 06:01.09 | hyperyoda | tramp: what u want me to- do exactly? |
| 06:01.18 | Tramp | hyperyoda: ok. Log in to the remote host (make a new connection) and thell me, what the $DISPLAY there is. |
| 06:02.16 | hyperyoda | Tramp: ok so login with just regular ssh? |
| 06:02.23 | Tramp | yes |
| 06:02.30 | hyperyoda | Tramp: ok |
| 06:02.44 | Tramp | echo $DISPLAY there. what is it? |
| 06:02.59 | hyperyoda | Tramp: it returns nothing, a blank line |
| 06:03.01 | hyperyoda | Tramp: chaos@tellurium:~$ echo $DISPLAY |
| 06:03.10 | hyperyoda | tellurium is remote host i just ssh'd into |
| 06:03.28 | Tramp | no output? |
| 06:03.52 | hyperyoda | Tramp: nope, u wanna see output of env? |
| 06:04.21 | Xenguy | hyperyoda: maybe sshd needs to be stared? |
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| 06:04.31 | hyperyoda | Tramp: here is env oputput: http://pastebin.ca/818302 |
| 06:04.46 | Tramp | hyperyoda: no. Exit. ssh in again with the -X option. My bad. |
| 06:04.46 | jello | hyperyoda: do you have ForwardX11 on? |
| 06:05.07 | hyperyoda | jello: remoteend has X11 forwarding working in ssh yes |
| 06:05.10 | hyperyoda | Tramp: ok |
| 06:05.26 | Tramp | hyperyoda: but probably you not by default for the client 8) |
| 06:05.59 | hyperyoda | Tramp: localhost:10.0 |
| 06:06.13 | Tramp | hyperyoda: great. Now do "xauth list" |
| 06:06.17 | hyperyoda | Tramp: eh? didn't quite parse that last sentence :D |
| 06:06.21 | hyperyoda | Tramp: ok |
| 06:06.41 | hyperyoda | Tramp: xauth on remote or local end? |
| 06:06.51 | Tramp | hyperyoda: remote |
| 06:06.58 | maddash | anyone know how to use the audacious scrobbler plugin? |
| 06:07.03 | hyperyoda | Tramp: bismuth.club.cc.cmu.edu/unix:12 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 fec48cd05cc1418af3ae8ef5715a8a0f |
| 06:07.14 | hyperyoda | Tramp: tellurium.club.cc.cmu.edu/unix:10 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 f5244ebc2d6c9a3be0700b65bbd6c1f7 |
| 06:07.18 | Tramp | ok |
| 06:07.36 | Tramp | that's the one. This is fine. Now start xeyes or whatever |
| 06:07.42 | hyperyoda | ok |
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| 06:07.58 | hyperyoda | Tramp: success! woo |
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| 06:08.16 | hyperyoda | ssh makes it a lot easier and more secure yay for ssh |
| 06:08.24 | hyperyoda | thanks everyone for help |
| 06:08.30 | Tramp | hyperyoda: hmm. So I just don't know why it hung previously. |
| 06:08.38 | hyperyoda | Tramp: yeah weird |
| 06:08.54 | Tramp | logout and try again - what was the commandline you used? |
| 06:09.07 | Tramp | also do "xhost -" locally |
| 06:09.26 | \amethyst | hyperyoda: btw, you can turn -nolisten tcp back on |
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| 06:10.05 | jello | hah! http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/99873 |
| 06:10.25 | hyperyoda | Tramp: i am trying to run my program on remote end and i get "_X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't get address for localost, Can't open display localhost:10.0.", yet xeyes worked, hmm? |
| 06:10.50 | hyperyoda | Tramp: the program i am trying to run is a game client |
| 06:11.07 | \amethyst | hyperyoda: the remote machine should have an /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 06:11.07 | Tramp | hyperyoda: cannot resolve localhost on the remote server? |
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| 06:11.23 | Tramp | yeah. Shoot the admin. |
| 06:11.24 | \amethyst | any machine that doesn't have that in /etc/hosts or in DNS is broken |
| 06:11.24 | jello | hyperyoda: was that a cut and paste?? |
| 06:11.36 | hyperyoda | amethyst: 127.0.0.1 localhost is in /etc/hosts on remote box |
| 06:11.39 | jello | hyperyoda: you've got "localost" -- no "h" |
| 06:12.04 | hyperyoda | jello: i typed it heh, my bad it says localhost |
| 06:12.20 | jello | hyperyoda: do `getent hosts localhost` remotely |
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| 06:12.42 | hyperyoda | jello: ok |
| 06:12.52 | jello | hyperyoda: what did you get? |
| 06:13.23 | hyperyoda | jello: 127.0.0.1 localhost |
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| 06:13.27 | Tramp | hmm wait. the xauth-entry for sshd is for the fqdn "tellurium.club.cc.cmu.edu", not for localhost... |
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| 06:13.37 | Tramp | *from sshd* |
| 06:13.42 | hyperyoda | jello: this game client is Xlib based and when it starts it needs open local display |
| 06:13.44 | jello | hyperyoda: well, then something is lying... you obviously can resolve localhost... |
| 06:13.53 | hyperyoda | tramp: ah |
| 06:13.56 | hyperyoda | jello: ya |
| 06:14.21 | hyperyoda | Tramp: so how do i tell it to allow the remote localhost to open on my local display? |
| 06:14.40 | Tramp | hyperyoda: but I cut you short on enumerating the "xauth list" entries - is there one for localhost maybe later? |
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| 06:15.45 | mackss | localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold |
| 06:15.57 | jello | mackss: ask google? |
| 06:15.59 | mackss | how can i get that to stop spamming my shell? :-/ |
| 06:16.00 | \amethyst | hyperyoda: if it really needs a local display (won't work over TCP) then you can't tunnel it over ssh |
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| 06:16.04 | mackss | jello: i id |
| 06:16.08 | mackss | *did |
| 06:16.11 | jello | and?? |
| 06:16.21 | mackss | and doesn't say how to get it to stop it only explains what it is |
| 06:16.51 | hyperyoda | Tramp: nah that is all the xauth entries |
| 06:17.21 | mackss | jello: is it just coincidental that this happens after i update the kernel today? |
| 06:17.47 | hyperyoda | amethyst: ah i see |
| 06:18.08 | hyperyoda | amethyst: the game client can be setup to use UDP also iirc, can ssh handle UDP tunneling? |
| 06:18.43 | jello | mackss: it could be the sign that your CPU fan is shot... |
| 06:18.43 | Tramp | nope |
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| 06:19.03 | jello | hyperyoda: socks |
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| 06:19.29 | Tramp | hyperyoda: I'm a bit confused. You wer logged in on tellurium. xeyes worked, but the gameclient gave you this error? |
| 06:19.46 | mackss | jello: i wondered that as well. what i find strange is that /var/logs/messages spams this 4-8 times a minute "localhost kernel: CPU0: Temperature/speed normal" |
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| 06:19.58 | hyperyoda | Tramp: yes precisely |
| 06:19.58 | mackss | i don't understand how that can be |
| 06:20.16 | jello | mackss: see also http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/2.6.14-kernel-messages-391581/ |
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| 06:22.21 | muhoo_ | auugh |
| 06:22.29 | hyperyoda | Tramp: weird huh |
| 06:22.30 | muhoo_ | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez org.bluez.Manager.ActivateService string:audio |
| 06:22.31 | mackss | jello: that doesn't really help :( |
| 06:22.34 | muhoo_ | Error org.bluez.Error.NoSuchService: No such service |
| 06:22.39 | mackss | jello: thanks though |
| 06:23.00 | Tramp | hyperyoda: indeed. Just checking on google |
| 06:23.20 | muhoo_ | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 130792 2007-12-15 21:47 /usr/lib/bluetooth/bluetoothd-service-audio* |
| 06:23.23 | muhoo_ | so it's there. |
| 06:23.33 | muhoo_ | but.... dbus says it isn't |
| 06:23.37 | muhoo_ | why? |
| 06:24.07 | jello | muhoo_: do you have bluez-utils installed? |
| 06:24.14 | muhoo_ | yes, indeed i do |
| 06:24.56 | jello | hmm, dunno... |
| 06:24.59 | muhoo_ | :-( |
| 06:25.16 | jello | not much of a bluetooth guru i'm afraid |
| 06:26.03 | peterrooney | jello, mackss : what about /etc/sysctl.conf ? |
| 06:26.15 | jello | peterrooney: what about it? |
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| 06:27.01 | hyperyoda | Tramp: k |
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| 06:27.27 | mackss | peterrooney: isn't that network stuff? |
| 06:27.46 | jello | no, it's something completely different |
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| 06:27.56 | jello | and unrelated afaik |
| 06:28.10 | jello | anyway, good night all... |
| 06:28.27 | peterrooney | mackss: sorry, hit ^W by mistake - control over kernel messages to console was moved to sysctl |
| 06:28.54 | jello | peterrooney: really?? |
| 06:29.08 | peterrooney | # Uncomment the following to stop low-level messages on console |
| 06:29.08 | jello | news to me |
| 06:29.09 | peterrooney | #kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7 |
| 06:29.37 | mackss | peterrooney: will that still allow other warnings? |
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| 06:29.59 | peterrooney | mackss: not sure. man 5 sysctl.conf might say |
| 06:31.05 | Zoup|GosyIsGone | i have a few problems , 1 > my mouse wheel ( laptop touchpad ) is not working , even after appending ps.mouseproto=imps |
| 06:31.07 | Anarch | I don't have `man 2 poll`. What package am I missing? |
| 06:33.20 | \amethyst | Anarch: manpages-dev |
| 06:33.34 | Anarch | \amethyst: Thanks, trying that ... |
| 06:34.10 | \amethyst | Anarch: also, manpages-posix-dev will give you man 3p poll which describes the POSIX standard for poll(), rather than the Linux-specific details |
| 06:34.16 | \amethyst | it's handy to have both |
| 06:34.23 | Anarch | \amethyst: Ah, thanks again. |
| 06:34.28 | Lycus | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Wheat_gluten_%28vegetarian_mock_duck%29_2007.jpg |
| 06:34.28 | \amethyst | manpages-posix-dev is in non-free |
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| 06:40.47 | iKernel | hi Nyle |
| 06:41.54 | Tramp | hyperyoda: Sorry, no clue. |
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| 06:44.20 | iKernel | Bhaal, why do you always do that? |
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| 06:45.07 | hyperyoda | Tramp: np, at least it mostly working, thx for all the help man |
| 06:45.12 | Tramp | hyperyoda: just for fun, you could try (on tellurium) DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:10 (if previously it was :10) and try again - but I doubt that anything would change |
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| 06:45.22 | hyperyoda | Tramp: heh k |
| 06:45.43 | hyperyoda | laters |
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| 06:47.45 | Tramp | Actually I have to admit, that I don't even understand, why an xauth-record for "host/unix:17" works with sshd listenint on 6017. I thought the "unix" meant a unix-domain socket. |
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| 06:49.25 | Tramp | and with DISPLAY set to "localhost:17" or "127.0.0.1:17" only this xauth-record works, but not "127.0.0.1/unix:17" or "localhost/unix:17" or "127.0.0.1:17". |
| 06:50.32 | Tramp | if I remove the "host/unix:17" record, forwarding breaks. If I add it again (using the same cmdline as for the other records) it works again (so I got the xauth-syntax right) |
| 06:51.49 | Tramp | and strace of the client shows a uname(2) call - as if it was "canonicalizing" localhost/127.0.0.1/nothing (i.e. whatever it finds in $DISPLAY) |
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| 06:53.12 | Tramp | X is far over my head - back to rocket-science. |
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| 06:56.26 | susanne- | i've got a user even more moronic than me on my box, and she wants to make midnight commander look all pretty and have the keys work. she's logging in over putty. what do i need to fix (termcap, term setting, something else?) so that her function keys work and her high-bit ascii draws right? |
| 06:57.23 | simonrvn | export TERM=linux ? :P |
| 06:57.28 | simonrvn | j/k |
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| 06:59.17 | susanne- | simonrvn: no altho there is an improvement - a ghost blank line appers without it that jacks the windows slightly forcing a redraw before i can read them. TERM=linux doesn't do that. :-) |
| 06:59.30 | simonrvn | seriously, there's probably a setting to set the term properly |
| 06:59.53 | susanne- | in what? putty? mc? somewhere else? |
| 07:00.20 | simonrvn | heh. linux term is vt100 emu, pretty common. putty |
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| 07:00.55 | simonrvn | i don't think putty/linux is installed here, so i couldn't say where |
| 07:01.13 | susanne- | is there a putty for linux? my god why? |
| 07:01.29 | Alam_Debian | yes, there is PuTTY for Linux |
| 07:02.44 | maddash | hahaha |
| 07:03.24 | maddash | I took an iq test! |
| 07:03.34 | Alam_Debian | I.Q. test? |
| 07:03.55 | maddash | yes, an iq test! |
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| 07:10.34 | simonrvn | susanne-: because some people just can't let go ;) |
| 07:10.34 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 07:12.37 | simonrvn | i'm an old mac os classic user, for us it was macssh, which resembled something a bit more sane |
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| 07:20.53 | snewp | which arch should i download for 64bit ? ia64? |
| 07:21.14 | simonrvn | amd64 unless you know for sure it's ia64 |
| 07:21.17 | simonrvn | !ia64 |
| 07:21.18 | dpkg | it has been said that ia64 is (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. see http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64 |
| 07:21.31 | snewp | it's intel 64bit |
| 07:21.46 | simonrvn | ^^^ |
| 07:22.17 | snewp | ok i386 :p |
| 07:23.39 | stew | snewp: what is the machine going to be used for? |
| 07:23.53 | snewp | stew, it's just for desktop |
| 07:24.03 | snewp | my friend wants to learn debian |
| 07:24.13 | \amethyst | snewp: is he going to want Flash and Java plugins? |
| 07:24.17 | simonrvn | that matters because certain things don't work for amd64. use i386 then |
| 07:24.30 | snewp | \amethyst: prolly yes |
| 07:25.32 | \amethyst | snewp: then i386 definitely |
| 07:25.44 | snewp | \amethyst: thank you |
| 07:26.04 | \amethyst | it's possible to get them working on amd64 but it's a pain, and not a good idea for someone's first experience with Debian :) |
| 07:26.27 | snewp | i agree |
| 07:26.57 | \amethyst | especially since they tend to blame "Linux" for the problem instead of, say, Adobe :) |
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| 07:29.32 | Ezep | Has default lenny kernel framebuffer enabled? |
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| 07:31.22 | stew | Ezep: yes |
| 07:31.31 | Ezep | Cool, thx |
| 07:32.12 | Ezep | So, only a vga=788 will be enough? |
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| 07:34.27 | stew | Ezep: yes |
| 07:35.01 | Ezep | Thz stew, and sorry for disturb |
| 07:37.58 | maddash | omg -- my fave song + my favorite artist = *orgasm* |
| 07:38.09 | Ezep | lol |
| 07:38.11 | snewp | lol |
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| 07:45.08 | juanjo | is it thro' that debian will be discontinued? |
| 07:45.29 | juanjo | i mean 'true'. |
| 07:46.25 | maddash | yes...except s/debian/ubuntu/g |
| 07:46.27 | juanjo | because its user base keep shrinking? |
| 07:47.01 | juanjo | right, ubuntu will completely replace debian? I read it in a Linu news sit. |
| 07:47.04 | juanjo | site. |
| 07:48.13 | juanjo | maddash, did you read about it? |
| 07:48.40 | Ezep | I don't think |
| 07:48.49 | Ezep | Bleh, I hope no |
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| 07:49.12 | juanjo | Ezep, why not, there is always other distros around. |
| 07:49.29 | Ezep | And? |
| 07:49.40 | Ezep | Why this should disapear? |
| 07:49.56 | Ezep | And why now? |
| 07:50.22 | juanjo | Ezep, becos fewer people are using it, fewer people are interested in developing it. |
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| 07:50.49 | Ezep | I think most Ubuntu user become debian users at a time |
| 07:51.01 | juanjo | Ezep, how long have you used debian? |
| 07:51.17 | Ezep | Im young in linux, 8 months |
| 07:51.30 | fignew | this conversation is retarded. |
| 07:51.34 | Ezep | 6, sorry |
| 07:51.41 | juanjo | this is the only distro you have tried? |
| 07:51.46 | Ezep | Nop |
| 07:51.51 | Ezep | I use Gentoo too |
| 07:51.58 | juanjo | is this better? |
| 07:52.21 | Ezep | The distros are not better than other |
| 07:52.28 | Ezep | They only are different |
| 07:52.39 | Ezep | (sorry about my bad english) |
| 07:52.49 | juanjo | which version of debian are you using? |
| 07:52.52 | fignew | Ezep: well put :) |
| 07:53.16 | Ezep | lenny right now |
| 07:53.24 | Ezep | But i use to use etch |
| 07:53.31 | juanjo | why be different when it is not to better? |
| 07:53.41 | Ezep | fignew: it's too bad? :S |
| 07:53.53 | fignew | hmm? |
| 07:54.08 | fignew | :P |
| 07:54.12 | Ezep | My english S |
| 07:54.21 | fignew | no it's fine :) |
| 07:54.43 | Ezep | k :) |
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| 08:10.36 | maddash | juanjo: I was once an ubuntian, but the bloat made me sad, and so, I became a debian. |
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| 08:19.14 | Ezep | Anyone could configure a CMI8330 integred sound card? :S |
| 08:19.23 | Ezep | Im in lenny |
| 08:19.47 | Ezep | Anda alsaconf don't configure it :S |
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| 08:28.44 | mackss | peterrooney: turns out the power supply is failing and cannot power the fan anymore. Thus overheating |
| 08:28.48 | mackss | thanks for the help cheerrs |
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| 08:40.08 | susanne- | a question of ettiquite: a debian package has errors in its docs, that no doubt come from upstream. but the upstream's webpage appears to be dead. is it appropriate to enter a bug in the debian system so it doesn't get lost? |
| 08:40.31 | VImtermute | hello |
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| 08:41.07 | VImtermute | debian sarge 3.1 r1 installation fails when trying to detect hardware |
| 08:41.22 | VImtermute | says there's a mismatch in kernel modules on the cd and in the archive |
| 08:41.38 | \amethyst | susanne-: it's appropriate to file a bug on the debian package regardless, but you should at least try to contact upstream too if it has a mailing address |
| 08:41.43 | susanne- | VImtermute: likely, since Etch is now the stable release and has been for a while. |
| 08:41.57 | VImtermute | susanne-, :) |
| 08:42.20 | VImtermute | susanne-, would getting the etch install floppies help? seen a solution like this before |
| 08:42.29 | \amethyst | susanne-: filing a Debian bug with a patch would be even better, the author can forward it upstream if it's possible to do so |
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| 08:43.27 | hoxu | \amethyst, susanne-: wasn't the recommendation to generally file bugs for debian packages and let the maintainer decide whether it needs to be forwarded upstream? I guess docs that are clearly from upstream are exception, but anyway... |
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| 08:45.05 | susanne- | \amethyst: i'm not sufficiently skilled to generate a patch, and in some ways, i need to move on with life, but this caused me 10 minutes of confusion and can be fixed easily. |
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| 08:48.16 | hoxu | susanne-, I think you can just fill a bugreport and shortly point out what the problem is |
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| 08:52.36 | Cusoon959 | Hmm...mencoder isn't in the repos...or is it? |
| 08:52.47 | Cusoon959 | Is mencoder in the standard Debian repos? |
| 08:52.55 | Cusoon959 | And under what name? |
| 08:53.54 | hoxu | if it's not in the mplayer package, then perhaps not |
| 08:54.05 | Cusoon959 | Hmm... |
| 08:54.14 | tralala | Cusoon959, no it is not. You can take it from debian-multimedia |
| 08:54.14 | Cusoon959 | Yeah, it's not under mplayer |
| 08:54.20 | Cusoon959 | Ah, I see |
| 08:54.23 | Cusoon959 | thanks :) |
| 08:54.42 | tralala | Cusoon959, /msg dpkg multimedia |
| 08:55.10 | Cusoon959 | OK |
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| 08:55.11 | Cusoon959 | Thanks |
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| 08:58.16 | susanne- | md5sum will accept data from stdin. if i'm manually typing the input, how do i end the input and pass the string to md5sum? |
| 08:59.10 | Cusoon959 | Ctrl-D maybe? |
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| 08:59.45 | susanne- | bingo ty |
| 08:59.54 | Cusoon959 | No problem :) |
| 09:00.25 | kantor | how can I connect from outside to a host that is behind a router and has a private IP (like 192.168.0.23) ? |
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| 09:00.45 | Cusoon959 | kantor: You need to forward the port you need to connect on |
| 09:00.56 | Cusoon959 | Forward the port in your router to the address |
| 09:01.02 | Cusoon959 | Then connect to the router's address |
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| 09:01.22 | susanne- | i love giving my machines rude names. i love the looks on people's faces. |
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| 09:01.51 | kantor | so If I do not set the forwarding I can't connect from outside, no ? |
| 09:01.54 | Cusoon959 | Hehe susanne- |
| 09:01.59 | Cusoon959 | kantor: That's correct |
| 09:02.07 | hoxu | kantor, unless you ssh in to the router and then hop ahead :P |
| 09:02.17 | Cusoon959 | *nod* |
| 09:02.17 | Cusoon959 | :P |
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| 09:03.50 | unsecur3d | how does debian works on an iMac 400mhz, 512mb ram ? |
| 09:03.53 | unsecur3d | 10gb hdd |
| 09:03.59 | Ezep | perfect |
| 09:04.19 | hoxu | Ezep, with a little redefinition of the word? ;P |
| 09:04.23 | Cusoon959 | I recently rename my school's printer to BUTTMONKEY... susanne- :P |
| 09:04.23 | kantor | Cusoon959, the IPv6 addresses are meant to remove routers and with that the NAT translation ? |
| 09:04.32 | Cusoon959 | No clue |
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| 09:04.47 | unsecur3d | xD |
| 09:04.54 | unsecur3d | Ezep is it supposed to work perfect ? |
| 09:05.15 | Ezep | Im running debian with 44mb and 200mhz :) |
| 09:05.18 | Cusoon959 | God damn this phone is so cool :D |
| 09:05.24 | unsecur3d | damn |
| 09:05.26 | Ezep | 1,2gb :) |
| 09:05.28 | unsecur3d | u on GUI ? |
| 09:05.32 | Ezep | No |
| 09:05.36 | unsecur3d | lol |
| 09:05.39 | Ezep | but I could use fluxbox |
| 09:05.40 | unsecur3d | i want to go fluxbox tho |
| 09:05.40 | amphi | !u |
| 09:05.41 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 09:05.43 | unsecur3d | lol |
| 09:05.47 | unsecur3d | perfect then :) |
| 09:05.57 | unsecur3d | cuz FreeBSd isn't kind of working for me rite now |
| 09:06.01 | unsecur3d | and i want something really secured |
| 09:06.03 | Ezep | u could use gnome, kde |
| 09:06.11 | unsecur3d | nah, dont like those |
| 09:06.15 | unsecur3d | is either xfce or flux |
| 09:06.18 | amphi | Ezep: I ran blackbox in 32mb ;) |
| 09:06.30 | Ezep | Great :) |
| 09:07.33 | rokra | Please how to add a second Ip to one interface? |
| 09:07.52 | hoxu | rokra, ip addr add for example, see the manual page :p |
| 09:08.06 | Ezep | rokra: 2 ip, 1 interface? |
| 09:08.08 | unsecur3d | Ezep how easy is the debian installation |
| 09:08.27 | hoxu | hmm... not sure how to do it in /etc/network/interfaces though |
| 09:08.42 | Ezep | unsecur3d: harderd that ubuntu's one, easier that gentoo's one :) |
| 09:09.00 | unsecur3d | xD |
| 09:09.03 | unsecur3d | so its in between |
| 09:09.07 | unsecur3d | might give it a shot as well |
| 09:09.12 | unsecur3d | i have never used debian before |
| 09:09.16 | Ezep | It's easy.. |
| 09:09.22 | unsecur3d | how about the networking, does it works with automatic dhcp ? |
| 09:09.24 | Ezep | U installed freebsd? |
| 09:09.27 | Ezep | yeah |
| 09:09.29 | hoxu | rokra, will the IPs be in same subnet? |
| 09:09.37 | Cusoon959 | !ne1 |
| 09:09.37 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 09:09.44 | Cusoon959 | Hehe |
| 09:09.52 | unsecur3d | u gonna be online for a while ? |
| 09:09.58 | rokra | hoxu: no |
| 09:10.10 | Ezep | unsecur3d: i don't think... it's tooo late here :S |
| 09:10.13 | hoxu | rokra, then you want to use a subinterface in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:10.15 | Ezep | But, maybe |
| 09:10.24 | unsecur3d | damn :x |
| 09:10.26 | unsecur3d | not good xD |
| 09:10.28 | hoxu | rokra, eg. main one as "eth0" and "eth0:1" and so on |
| 09:10.36 | unsecur3d | cuz FreeBSD isn't able to format the hard drive |
| 09:10.38 | simonrvn | hoxu: you harrassing the newbies again? :P |
| 09:10.39 | rokra | ah yes thx hoxu |
| 09:10.43 | unsecur3d | i dont know if debian would be able to tho |
| 09:10.47 | unsecur3d | thats my only concern |
| 09:10.56 | rokra | hoxu: I remember now :) |
| 09:10.57 | Ezep | tho? |
| 09:11.02 | hoxu | rokra :) |
| 09:11.21 | hoxu | simonrvn, hmm, where? I didn't see you asking any questions ;) |
| 09:11.39 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 09:11.43 | rokra | hoxu: arf I lost hand on the machine :s :) |
| 09:11.56 | Ezep | unsecur3d: im going reboot, so wait |
| 09:12.01 | Ezep | bye ppl |
| 09:12.02 | hoxu | ah well, now that simonrvn has blessed us with his presence, feel free to ask all the difficult questions I never could answer |
| 09:12.35 | wols | hoxu: it's sunday, there are not difficult questions, only stupid ones |
| 09:13.05 | hoxu | otoh, difficult questions become stupid questions after they've been answered? :p |
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| 09:16.58 | maddash | difficult questions, eh? |
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| 09:17.20 | simonrvn | "how do you that fux0rs!!!111oneoneone" |
| 09:17.20 | susanne- | is there any chance anyone here uses libapache2-mod-vhost-hash-alias? i have a question about how to calculate in advance the hash values it uses |
| 09:17.40 | maddash | what are the values of kp, kx, and the degree of dissociation of ammonia at 400 celsuis and 300 atm? |
| 09:17.44 | simonrvn | reply: "check #mindreaders" |
| 09:17.53 | b0rsuk | Hi, I just switched from Kubuntu to Debian. Is there any smarter way of installing nvidia drivers than downloading the drivers and installing them manually ? I'm running Lenny |
| 09:18.00 | simonrvn | 1.27353 |
| 09:18.14 | b0rsuk | Installed via debootstrap, so I may have missed a couple of things |
| 09:18.24 | simonrvn | celcius |
| 09:18.32 | maddash | celsius |
| 09:18.33 | maddash | * |
| 09:18.48 | simonrvn | yes |
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| 09:20.05 | b0rsuk | Another question. I'm trying set up sudo. Sudo is installed, I edit /etc/sudoers via visudo . I added a line b0rsuk ALL=(ALL) ALL and saved. |
| 09:20.08 | robboplus_ | what is the basic step to creating my very own patch that will be installable with patch -p0? |
| 09:20.26 | maddash | robboplus_: diff -Naur |
| 09:20.27 | b0rsuk | But whenever I try to use sudo, I get sudo : unable to resolve host Machaka |
| 09:20.32 | b0rsuk | (Machaka is my hostname) |
| 09:20.39 | robboplus_ | maddash hello and thank you very much! |
| 09:20.51 | maddash | robboplus_: I rule, don't I? |
| 09:20.57 | b0rsuk | Re-logging doesn't help with sudo. |
| 09:20.59 | robboplus_ | maddash yesyes |
| 09:21.14 | simonrvn | modest, aren't we |
| 09:21.21 | robboplus_ | lol |
| 09:21.57 | Decepticon | i got 8 scripts that i want to launch whenever my computer boots, without me ever logging in... whats the best way to do this? |
| 09:22.09 | susanne- | b0rsuk: you can stuff your hostname and ip address into /etc/hosts. that seems to have fixed it for me. |
| 09:22.22 | maddash | Decepticon: /etc/init.d; man update-rc.d |
| 09:22.31 | Decepticon | thats what i htought!!! |
| 09:22.33 | Decepticon | okay |
| 09:22.34 | Decepticon | thanks |
| 09:22.41 | maddash | Decepticon: I rule, don't I? |
| 09:22.45 | Decepticon | yeah! |
| 09:22.47 | Decepticon | :D |
| 09:22.49 | b0rsuk | Decepticon : You could add them to bash.profile or something . Someone did this to me on univ computer, he added 'logout' to my bash.profile |
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| 09:23.03 | Usiu | Hi |
| 09:23.08 | maddash | b0rsuk: bash.profile is only executed on logins, I think |
| 09:23.09 | Decepticon | lol b0rsuk thats kinda mean |
| 09:23.10 | Usiu | how to check why mysql command segfaults ? |
| 09:23.14 | Usiu | Do You have the same? |
| 09:23.15 | susanne- | b0rsuk: maddash rules, you don't. That would require logging in, which he said isn't what he wants. :-) |
| 09:23.16 | b0rsuk | maddash : True, I know |
| 09:23.26 | Decepticon | b0rsuk thats horrible!! |
| 09:23.45 | b0rsuk | susanne : /etc/hosts.what ? |
| 09:23.52 | susanne- | susanne: /etc/hosts |
| 09:23.59 | b0rsuk | there's /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} |
| 09:24.11 | b0rsuk | So I'm supposed to create a new file ? |
| 09:24.15 | ofirg__ | hi |
| 09:24.18 | susanne- | there should be a file called /etc/hosts |
| 09:24.24 | b0rsuk | Well there isn't one. |
| 09:24.28 | ofirg__ | can I have two passwords for root? |
| 09:24.34 | susanne- | ofirg__: no. |
| 09:24.35 | b0rsuk | Debian testing (lenny) from debootstrap |
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| 09:24.37 | Usiu | ofirg__, yes |
| 09:24.42 | maddash | Usiu: how? |
| 09:24.59 | susanne- | b0rsuk: then create one. format is simple: <ipaddy> <hostname> |
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| 09:25.12 | b0rsuk | host.conf |
| 09:25.12 | b0rsuk | hostname |
| 09:25.12 | b0rsuk | hosts.allow |
| 09:25.12 | b0rsuk | hosts.deny |
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| 09:25.13 | Usiu | maddash, additional pam module |
| 09:25.15 | susanne- | b0rsuk: you can have multiple hostnames on one line, separated by a space. |
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| 09:25.28 | b0rsuk | Ups |
| 09:25.41 | susanne- | b0rsuk: this file is checked before name resolution, so it'll override DNS. |
| 09:25.59 | ofirg__ | is there an other user but root that can kill other users processes? |
| 09:26.05 | maddash | Usiu: can you elaborate? |
| 09:26.08 | b0rsuk | susanne : Is it ok to just create a 'hosts' file if it isn't there ? |
| 09:26.19 | susanne- | b0rsuk: yes. it's just a flat text file. |
| 09:26.28 | maddash | ofirg__: yes. anyone who has a superuser. |
| 09:26.33 | maddash | ofirg__: is* |
| 09:26.50 | Usiu | maddash, for example if You add another password checking module with mysql or any other system.. you can have two passwords it depends on pam configuration |
| 09:27.19 | susanne- | b0rsuk: sample file is here: http://www.docs.hp.com/en/36922-90043/ch12s02.html don't pay attention to anything except the format. all the other garbage, including filename, is HP-specific. it's called /etc/hosts ... there's nothing special about this file. |
| 09:27.25 | b0rsuk | susanne : How should the contents look like ? IF mu hostnam.. ah, right. |
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| 09:28.26 | susanne- | you can create it in [vi|vim|nano|emacs|whatever] |
| 09:28.56 | susanne- | you should also add this line: 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 09:29.22 | b0rsuk | susanne : So will it work if I copy the line 127.0.0.1 localhost loopback me myself local ? |
| 09:29.52 | susanne- | yes. then any time you enter any of those names, without the rest of the domain name, will resolve to 127.0.0.1 |
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| 09:30.09 | b0rsuk | Heh, I think there's a typo. They wrote 172 instead of 127 |
| 09:30.13 | susanne- | but they will not match, eg, localhost.debian.org. that will trigger a DNS lookup |
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| 09:30.34 | b0rsuk | susanne : so I don't really need 'me' and 'myself' , right ? |
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| 09:30.51 | b0rsuk | They look like some made up stuff |
| 09:30.53 | susanne- | not unless you intend to use those names. lots of stuff will look for localhost tho |
| 09:31.03 | Ezep | ppl, im going to bed, good night |
| 09:31.14 | Ezep | well, evening there :p |
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| 09:31.18 | b0rsuk | So what's strictly necessary ? 127.0.0.1 localhost loopback ? |
| 09:31.28 | susanne- | b0rsuk: you can even omit loopback |
| 09:31.51 | b0rsuk | Thanks, I'll try it now. If I don't return it means my monitor ran out of frequency again |
| 09:32.54 | b0rsuk | Thanks, it works now ! |
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| 09:36.21 | Airbottle | hey how can i execute the action Ctrl-q in a screen using the command "screen -x window -X a_command"? |
| 09:36.46 | b0rsuk | Is there any quick fix for "out of frequency" on my monitor ? Sometimes when I switch between KDE and text terminal (CTRL-ALT-F1) a lot, my monitor goes out of frequency and nothing helps except CTRL-ALT-DEl (if you can call it help). I configured stuff with default/autodetect (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg), all safe options. nv driver, no hardware acceleration so far. |
| 09:36.56 | b0rsuk | Will the problem go away once I install glx ? |
| 09:37.04 | b0rsuk | And proper nvidia drivers ? |
| 09:37.12 | wols | b0rsuk: a better videocard driver |
| 09:37.22 | wols | it might go away |
| 09:39.27 | b0rsuk | Hmm. And I seem to get no anti-aliasing in Iceweasel, fonts look really ugly for example on message board. I installed all ttf-something packages I found . Have I missed something ? Actually, it happens in Konqueror, too. |
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| 09:47.36 | susanne- | does anybody know if anyone has started an official Debian package for qmail? |
| 09:47.47 | wols | !qmail |
| 09:47.47 | dpkg | it has been said that qmail is a Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) written by D.J. Bernstein. Because it is illegal to distribute binaries built from modified sources, Debian considers it non-free. For documentation about qmail, see http://www.qmail.org/ and http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html. There were no qmail releases since 1998, and a truckload of features and security measures needed for a MTA in use on today's Internet must be patched in by external ... |
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| 09:48.04 | wols | there already is qmail-src |
| 09:48.07 | susanne- | qmail is now public domain (and thus eligible to be moved to main): http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html |
| 09:48.12 | susanne- | that's why i'm asking. |
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| 09:48.19 | wols | so new development would show up there I guess |
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| 09:49.31 | kombi | my first debian with a desktop, why does my NIC get a different name on each boot ? (eth0, eth1, eth2... eth15) |
| 09:49.37 | susanne- | i'll take that as a no. |
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| 09:51.42 | Decepticon | when i run stuff from /etc/init.d/script.sh ... does it run with root privileges?? |
| 09:51.51 | hoodlum_ | depends |
| 09:52.01 | hoodlum_ | are you running it as root? |
| 09:52.08 | Decepticon | im not sure! |
| 09:52.25 | hoodlum_ | interesting |
| 09:52.25 | hoodlum_ | su |
| 09:52.25 | susanne- | you might want to figure that out then. |
| 09:52.30 | hoodlum_ | :D |
| 09:52.32 | Decepticon | i did this: |
| 09:52.37 | Decepticon | "1. sudo cp /home/decepticon/bnc.sh /etc/init.d .. 2. sudo chmod 755 /etc/init.d/bnc.sh .. 3. sudo update-rc.d bnc.sh defaults 90" |
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| 09:53.08 | Decepticon | and then i do "sudo /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d bnc.sh start" |
| 09:53.12 | Decepticon | am i running it as root? |
| 09:53.42 | kombi | I usually set up /etc/network/interfaces and that's it, why is anything giving the network card an new name.. weired.. |
| 09:53.42 | hoodlum_ | sure Decepticon |
| 09:53.42 | wols | !tell kombi about z25 |
| 09:53.52 | kombi | z25? |
| 09:54.22 | wols | kombi: you just go a /msg |
| 09:54.30 | Decepticon | hoodlum_ what do you mean sure |
| 09:54.31 | kombi | sorry, I allway forget |
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| 09:54.53 | hoodlum_ | well sudo authorizes you as a 'root' user |
| 09:54.58 | hoodlum_ | or a user with 'root' privs right? |
| 09:55.01 | Decepticon | yeah |
| 09:55.08 | kombi | wols: can't do it, what's the syntax again? |
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| 09:55.23 | Penix | kombi: the bot already msged you |
| 09:55.25 | Decepticon | is there no way to run a script on startup of the machine with a specific user priviledges?, i dont want to run this as root |
| 09:55.57 | wols | kombi: what syntax? all you need to do is reading what dpkg just told you |
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| 09:56.07 | hoodlum_ | limme look :) |
| 09:56.22 | \amethyst | Decepticon: su user -c 'command' |
| 09:56.38 | wols | Decepticon: sure. use another init.d script that sheds priviledge by suing to a certain |
| 09:56.48 | wols | *certain user and then starting the bnc |
| 09:56.58 | kombi | wols: I am too stupid... bot just told how to send a private message |
| 09:57.12 | wols | yes you are soooo stupid you message people without reason |
| 09:57.21 | wols | now go away |
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| 09:58.28 | Decepticon | is it safe to 'sudo rm /etc/rc*.d/K00bnc.sh' or do i have to do some other specialized way of removing this script |
| 09:58.41 | hoodlum_ | safe to do that |
| 09:58.43 | wols | safe |
| 09:59.32 | Penix | I like "security" list archives. never thought I could learn so much from idiots being corrected. |
| 09:59.44 | kombi | wols: I just tried to do what you said. I wonder what is more stupid, not being able to figure out no information at all or saying "now go away". My buddy is trying to set up a machine at a clients place and has spend the night doing that and now he is stuck with freakin' ever new eth names, please, if you know something, just say it or shut up |
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| 10:01.10 | KurtKraut | How can I mount a partition with rw permitions ? |
| 10:01.23 | kombi | or at lease someone tell me how to operate the freakin' bot, KurtKraut: mount rw |
| 10:01.28 | Penix | mount -o rw |
| 10:01.53 | KurtKraut | but how I set it in fstab ? |
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| 10:02.03 | wols | kombi: you've already been told the solution. now FOAD |
| 10:02.09 | Penix | KurtKraut: under the options entry |
| 10:02.31 | wols | KurtKraut: it's mounted rw by default. what kind of filesystem? |
| 10:02.43 | Decepticon | KurtKraut: /dev/sda1 /media/mountpoint ext3 defaults 0 0 |
| 10:03.12 | kombi | wols: no, I have not, otherwise I would not be asking. bot did not tell me anything about z25 |
| 10:03.33 | wols | kombi: you are mistaken: 10:53 <dpkg> told kombi about z25 (well, |
| 10:03.57 | ofirg__ | my clamav takes very long and clamdscan errors lstat.. help! |
| 10:04.02 | kombi | wols: no, man, I read this up and down 10 times, it really did not |
| 10:04.16 | Penix | ofirg__: try #clamav |
| 10:04.17 | wols | kombi: what did you reas up and down? |
| 10:04.17 | kombi | your last post ended on (well,) |
| 10:04.26 | kombi | every message above |
| 10:04.32 | KurtKraut | Decepticon, even doin |
| 10:04.34 | wols | kombi: you got a message by dpkg, that's a fact. dpkg doesn't lie there |
| 10:04.35 | kombi | nothing to do with z25 |
| 10:04.35 | Penix | !cluebat kombi |
| 10:04.39 | KurtKraut | Decepticon, even doing that only root is able to write on it |
| 10:04.46 | wols | Penix: it's sunday... |
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| 10:04.52 | Penix | oh, yeah... |
| 10:04.57 | wols | KurtKraut: for the LAST time: what filesystem |
| 10:05.02 | Penix | I'm off then... |
| 10:05.05 | KurtKraut | wols, ext3 |
| 10:05.10 | kombi | wols: but it is not here, for god's sake, do you take pleasure in this? |
| 10:05.16 | ofirg__ | Penix, I am trying |
| 10:05.18 | wols | KurtKraut: then unmount, fix your mountpoint perms, remount it |
| 10:05.30 | wols | !tell ofirg__ about errors |
| 10:05.47 | KurtKraut | wols, this is my settings in fstab: /dev/sda6 /media/backup ext3 defaults 0 0 0 |
| 10:05.56 | KurtKraut | wols, and still only root able to write on it |
| 10:06.01 | wols | did I say anything about fstab? |
| 10:06.30 | wols | and 3 zeroes at the end? what kind of frankenstein fstab setup is this? |
| 10:06.45 | Cusoon959 | wols: A normal one O_o |
| 10:06.47 | kombi | !tell kombi about z25 |
| 10:07.08 | Cusoon959 | Those three 0s are settings |
| 10:07.58 | wols | Cusoon959: don't tell me your fstab has more than <dump> <pass> |
| 10:08.04 | wols | if so I REALLY need to upgrade my sid |
| 10:08.25 | Cusoon959 | Oops, you're right |
| 10:08.27 | Cusoon959 | Two zeroes |
| 10:08.31 | Cusoon959 | dump and pass |
| 10:08.35 | wols | !tell kombi about selftell |
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| 10:08.58 | Cusoon959 | Well, for the root fs there |
| 10:09.02 | Cusoon959 | 's a 0 and a 1 :P |
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| 10:09.10 | Cusoon959 | !tell Cusoon959 about selftell |
| 10:09.16 | kombi | wols: see, dpkg does not speak to me, maybe it is this stupid windows chat client |
| 10:09.27 | Cusoon959 | lol |
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| 10:09.51 | Cusoon959 | What client, kombi? |
| 10:09.58 | kombi | x-chat something.. |
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| 10:10.22 | Cusoon959 | kombi: There should be a new tab in the left that says dpkg |
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| 10:11.05 | kombi | Cusoon959: sigh.. I'm back on epic right now... thanks man! |
| 10:11.42 | bliss_ | if i want to stop some servivces permantly how to do it kill -9 is not the solustion? |
| 10:12.09 | Cusoon959 | lol kombi... did it work? |
| 10:12.10 | Cusoon959 | ;) |
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| 10:12.12 | bliss_ | solution |
| 10:12.39 | wols | bliss_: stop them after the next reboot too? |
| 10:12.54 | Decepticon | i got a process that wont die by "killall <scriptname>" ... im trying to automate this so its sort of difficult to use kill -15 <pid>, kill -2 <pid> or any other form since the pid will be changing.. and its difficult to put it in a script so it does "ps aux | grep <name of script> ... then figure out pid's and then do kill -2 <pid>" all in a script.... any suggestions |
| 10:13.11 | wols | Decepticon: pidof |
| 10:13.25 | Decepticon | nice |
| 10:13.35 | Decepticon | neat, i didnt know that |
| 10:13.37 | Cusoon959 | What does that do? |
| 10:13.41 | bliss_ | wols: well i do not reboot that ofen but yes |
| 10:13.42 | kombi | Cusoon959: like a charm, I just had to take all the cursing before.. |
| 10:13.47 | Decepticon | pidof (8) - find the process ID of a running program. |
| 10:14.00 | Cusoon959 | kombi: Hehe... np :) |
| 10:14.02 | wols | bliss_: update-rc.d or simply kill its symlink in /etc/rc?.d |
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| 10:16.06 | Decepticon | wols so okay i get a string of pids with pidof, how can i do "kill -2 <pid 1>" "kill -2 <pid 2>" and "kill -2 <pid 3>" logically... i have a string of pids when i do pidof, how can i translate that into those 3 commands? |
| 10:17.06 | wols | with sed and awk magic. what script language do you use? |
| 10:17.16 | wols | sed mainly I gues |
| 10:17.34 | Decepticon | im not very good at any language |
| 10:17.38 | bliss_ | wols: there are 6 rc.d directoried and rc5.d has two |
| 10:17.49 | bliss_ | directories |
| 10:18.06 | wols | bliss_: so? |
| 10:18.16 | wols | Decepticon: answer my question |
| 10:18.28 | Decepticon | i would say perl, if i had to answer |
| 10:18.42 | wols | then ask #perl how to do it when you do a perl script |
| 10:18.48 | Decepticon | bliss_ i used rcconf to disable some services |
| 10:19.12 | Decepticon | maybe you can do that instead of manually tinkering with /etc/rc*.d/script |
| 10:20.45 | bliss_ | thanks just tring to save memory |
| 10:20.54 | maddash | I use VBScript |
| 10:21.10 | bliss_ | cd |
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| 10:21.51 | ofirg__ | I am pondering if i should run testing instead of stable |
| 10:22.02 | ofirg__ | any advice? |
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| 10:22.12 | wols | ofirg__: yes. run stable |
| 10:22.27 | maddash | run EXPERI-MENTAL! |
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| 10:23.31 | ofirg__ | wols, I have a problem in clamav, and they say my version is not the latest, but it is the latest there is for stable |
| 10:23.49 | dserban_ | how do I set the default x server to load at 75 dpi? I used to modify the /etc/gdm.conf to have the -dpi 75 switch and it used to work... either that... or somehow my fonts are just really that unreadable on a tv-out |
| 10:23.58 | bliss_ | i suupose kill -9 will do it untill the next reboot although its a messy way to do it |
| 10:24.11 | wols | maddash: do you have anything _useful_ to say this morning? |
| 10:24.16 | wols | !tell ofirg__ about volatile |
| 10:24.31 | maddash | bliss_: what do you need to do with kill -9 that pkill can't? |
| 10:24.48 | maddash | wols: no, I'm spent |
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| 10:25.06 | wols | bliss_: to stop it right now, you only neet to /etc/init.d/<name of service> stop |
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| 10:25.20 | wols | bliss_: kill -9 is _not_ the right way to stop a daemon |
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| 10:26.02 | maddash | bliss_: so you want to stop a startup script, right? as root, 'mv /etc/init.d/[script name] /etc/init.d/[script name].disabled' |
| 10:26.25 | wols | maddash: that is wrong too |
| 10:26.39 | maddash | wols: prove it. |
| 10:26.47 | as | Hello everybody |
| 10:26.56 | dserban_ | 'quit |
| 10:27.15 | bliss_ | maddash; ok thanks but i will go with wols idea of /etc/init.d/nameof service stop |
| 10:27.32 | as | I have question about installing an Intel WLAN driver. Maybe someone can help me. |
| 10:27.37 | maddash | bliss_: that only stops the service for this time temporarily. |
| 10:27.51 | as | In the description is written the following: Debian include paths of he ipw3945 driver in both the 'contrib' and the 'non-free' repositories. You will need to enable both of these to install this driver. |
| 10:28.01 | as | But I don't know what to do |
| 10:28.15 | maddash | as: as root, 'editor /etc/apt/sources.list' |
| 10:28.33 | as | ok |
| 10:28.39 | bliss_ | maddash: yes i know but i reboot very seldom but i have noted what you said |
| 10:28.43 | maddash | as: then, for every line that contains, "deb" or "deb-src", append "contrib non-free" to that line. |
| 10:28.46 | wols | !tell as about contrib |
| 10:29.25 | ofirg__ | wols, so volitile is ok? |
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| 10:29.27 | maddash | bliss_: by the way, 'kill' usually works just as well (if not better) than 'kill -9' |
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| 10:30.14 | bliss_ | maddash; or pkill? |
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| 10:31.04 | as | Thank you - I think, I get it! |
| 10:31.08 | maddash | bliss_: that's correct |
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| 10:35.55 | bliss_ | ps -aux gives me a long list of servies running if i stop one will that create error messages? |
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| 10:39.42 | ofirg__ | I tried to gpg --import etch-volatile.acs, but aptitude update still complain about an unavailable public key |
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| 10:40.26 | ofirg__ | The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EC61E0B0BBE55AB3 |
| 10:40.51 | ofirg__ | and I have imported BBE55AB3 |
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| 10:41.11 | Ready1 | hi! i am using opensuse 10.3 and i want to withch to debian 4; but i am concerned whther i can ue my sagem modem 800 with debian? |
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| 10:42.01 | Ace2016 | sagem f@st 800? i used to have one of those, but i switched to a router |
| 10:42.26 | Ready1 | Ace2016 is it usable with debian? |
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| 10:43.52 | Ace2016 | i got the router about a year ago, when i was trying run fedora |
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| 10:44.32 | Ace2016 | eagle usb is in the repositories and so is the kernel source for it |
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| 10:44.57 | ofirg__ | anyone knows how to get the signature that I miss? |
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| 10:46.20 | wols | Ready1: if it works with suse it will work with debian. but you might have to compile your own kernel for it |
| 10:46.25 | wols | or rather your own drivers |
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| 10:49.02 | Decepticon | how much clutter will i create if a make a new user and delete him after i test something? |
| 10:49.09 | hoodlum_ | not much? |
| 10:49.17 | Ace2016 | wols: just wondering but a net install is proably out of the question, so how will he install? he might have to download say the first 2 debian isos, then install that, and then how will he get the 3 eagle usb packages that are shown in synaptic? the module source is shown so i guess he'd use m-a auto-install |
| 10:49.19 | Decepticon | i want to see what this new user can see (in terms of files i have chmodded 700 or 600) via "locate" and "find" after i've done "sudo updatedb" |
| 10:49.23 | wols | Decepticon: pretty much none if you delete its home directory too |
| 10:49.28 | hoodlum_ | Decepticon: |
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| 10:49.59 | wols | Ace2016: CD1 plus download the .deb of the eagle-usb from packages.debian.org and copying over via usb stick or such |
| 10:50.40 | Ace2016 | but they have dependancies, and are the module compile and install stuff and kernel sources on the first disk? |
| 10:50.49 | Decepticon | hoodlum_ yes? |
| 10:51.08 | honschu | Hi, from inside the lan to outside, a lot of ports are blocked. 80 and 443 tcp are open, but how can I search for open udp ports? |
| 10:51.10 | hoodlum_ | nar its ok man |
| 10:51.12 | hoodlum_ | continue |
| 10:51.22 | kombi | honschu: nmap |
| 10:51.58 | honschu | kombi: no, that doesn't work |
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| 10:52.26 | Ace2016 | hi all |
| 10:52.39 | Ace2016 | is there an apt-get port to windows? |
| 10:52.50 | Ace2016 | ok hear me out first |
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| 10:53.10 | wols | Ace2016: no there is not. next question |
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| 10:53.30 | Ace2016 | you could do apt-get update in windows, take the file it makes, give it to your linux, select everything for download, take the file back, and tell it to download the files in windows, and the give the files to linux and linux will install it |
| 10:53.50 | Ace2016 | when i mean everything for download, i mean everything you want to install |
| 10:54.00 | Ace2016 | oh oh oh |
| 10:54.02 | Ace2016 | how about this |
| 10:54.21 | Ace2016 | a cd with just the drivers, every single one, that is in the repositories, all the drivers, and just the drivers |
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| 10:55.13 | wols | Ace2016: that is called apt-zip or apt-oncd and already exists |
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| 10:57.00 | Minnozz | Hey, why is 'dig' not in the repositories? |
| 10:57.23 | wols | Minnozz: it is |
| 10:57.27 | wols | !tell Minnozz about search |
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| 11:02.05 | ofirg__ | anyone knows about lstat error on clamav? |
| 11:03.07 | wols | I told you before, unless you tell us the error, no one ever will |
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| 11:08.30 | ofirg__ | clamdscan /home/ofirg/Desktop/Downloads/james/lib/commons-pool-1.2.jar /home/ofirg/Desktop/Downloads/james/lib/commons-pool-1.2.jar: lstat() failed. ERROR |
| 11:08.43 | ofirg__ | wols: here is the error |
| 11:09.44 | wols | why is clamav looking your your /home for jar binaries? |
| 11:09.54 | wols | and do those binaries actually exist? |
| 11:09.58 | susanne- | is there an exceptions file of some sort that apt-get looks at when upgrading a system that will tell it to not jack with a specific [file|symlink]? |
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| 11:10.24 | wols | susanne-: dpkg-divert does this |
| 11:10.24 | ofirg__ | wols, it is looking there because I told it to, and they exist |
| 11:10.35 | Decepticon | i presed the power button and i saw a message saying system is going for halt... but nothings hapopening... |
| 11:10.39 | Decepticon | the system is still on |
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| 11:10.55 | Decepticon | i even did 'sudo telinit 6' |
| 11:11.11 | wols | ofirg__: is this the FULL output of clamav? |
| 11:11.19 | ofirg__ | yes |
| 11:11.51 | ofirg__ | well there is a scan summary after that |
| 11:11.52 | Decepticon | anybody know what i should do |
| 11:12.11 | ofirg__ | with infected files and time |
| 11:12.38 | Decepticon | why the hell cant i shut down my system... |
| 11:13.02 | Decepticon | Broadcast message from root@decepticon (Sun Dec 16 06:12:18 2007): Power button pressed The system is going down for system halt NOW! |
| 11:13.05 | Decepticon | yet nothing is happening |
| 11:13.08 | wols | ofirg__: as what user does clamav run? and what permissions are on that file it fails on? |
| 11:13.22 | wols | Decepticon: shutdown now |
| 11:13.58 | Decepticon | wols: its giving the usual message about going down for shutdown NOW |
| 11:14.02 | Decepticon | but its still shitting around |
| 11:14.05 | Decepticon | its still on |
| 11:14.07 | Decepticon | :/ |
| 11:14.29 | ofirg__ | wols, it runs under clamav user |
| 11:14.32 | wols | Decepticon: did you run shutdown now ? |
| 11:14.36 | Decepticon | yes wols |
| 11:14.44 | wols | ofirg__: and what is the perm for the jar file(s)? |
| 11:14.54 | Decepticon | decepticon@decepticon:~$ sudo shutdown now Broadcast message from root@decepticon (pts/3) (Sun Dec 16 06:13:30 2007): The system is going down to maintenance mode NOW! |
| 11:15.03 | susanne- | if you hold it down for, usually, four seconds ... it'll power off. i've seen some systems hang, and/or not reboot (when using shutdown -r) ... hitting the big Red Switch is required in such situations. |
| 11:15.12 | ofirg__ | wols, the file have -rw-r--r-- |
| 11:15.18 | Decepticon | its not hung... its working.. im ssh'd into it |
| 11:15.26 | Decepticon | its just being a douche |
| 11:15.28 | Decepticon | and not shutting down |
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| 11:18.56 | ofirg__ | wols, an other file with same permissions is OK |
| 11:19.15 | wols | ofirg__: is some other process locking the jar file? |
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| 11:19.35 | ofirg__ | wols, I don't think so |
| 11:19.42 | Decepticon | ok so im gonna do a hard press the power button for 9 seconds type of shutdown... ive unomunted all my ext hdds... do i need to unmount the system hdd as well? with "sudo umount /" or is that a stupid idea |
| 11:19.52 | ofirg__ | wols, also same lstat on a LICENSE.txt |
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| 11:20.18 | peter_ | hello |
| 11:20.19 | ofirg__ | wols, is there a way to check locks? |
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| 11:20.48 | wols | lsof and fuser can check if the file is in use |
| 11:21.27 | darrh00 | how to build kernel modules for debian's standard install kernel? |
| 11:22.10 | wols | darrh00: module-assistant |
| 11:22.40 | Decepticon | exit |
| 11:22.43 | ofirg__ | wols, it is not used then |
| 11:22.44 | Decepticon | quit |
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| 11:24.20 | darrh00 | wols:how to put m-a build kernel modules to debian's netinstall iso? |
| 11:25.01 | wols | !custom cd |
| 11:25.01 | dpkg | i heard custom cd is So you want to build a debian installer with a custom kernel image eh? Well then, read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel | Also see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianCustomCD | http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?CustomDebian | #debian-custom on irc.oftc.net http://lists.debian.org/debian-custom/ |
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| 11:26.11 | feechl | hi all, I installed desktop-base which broke compiz. Compiz looks in ~/.gconf/ for config files. Im guessing desktop-base told gconf to look elsewhere for config files. Any way to point it back to my home directory? |
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| 11:37.08 | feechl | Anyone know the default directory compiz will look in for config files? |
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| 11:39.59 | ofirg__ | I see one upper dir has drwxr-x--- perm |
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| 11:42.43 | ofirg__ | wols, i changed the perm to 755, (from 750) and now i get OK |
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| 11:44.12 | maddash | god, I'm bored |
| 11:44.18 | maddash | can someone plz ban me? |
| 11:44.46 | maddash | what pinboard program do you folks use? |
| 11:44.51 | maddash | and file manager? |
| 11:44.53 | maddash | geez. |
| 11:44.56 | peter_ | :) |
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| 11:45.58 | ofirg__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:48.24 | ofirg__ | lo |
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| 11:51.25 | happla | w |
| 11:51.34 | Decepticon | a |
| 11:52.07 | maddash | haha, go away, xrandr |
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| 11:55.27 | maddash | !bootsplash |
| 11:55.28 | dpkg | [bootsplash] http://www.bootsplash.org/ && http://www.bootsplash.de (Themes and updates and debian packages) see also gensplash, or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdeskhks/chapter/hack08.pdf, or download kernel sources, apply bootsplash patches to it, enable frambuffer and disable "bootup logo", compile the kernel, install bootsplash package, patch initrd image with "splash", update boot manager and reboot |
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| 11:56.02 | maddash | hm, does adding a bootsplash slow down the kernel or the boot-up time? |
| 11:56.21 | wols | of course it does: it has to load the additional image and display it |
| 11:56.38 | idiocrash | anyone know of an extension for firefox that will render all pages using a dark color theme? |
| 11:56.43 | maddash | :( |
| 11:56.52 | idiocrash | all the whitespace burns my eyes |
| 11:58.30 | wols | a custom css maybe |
| 11:58.43 | wols | iirc you can set a browser css file |
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| 11:59.30 | TurboBee | if I wanted to install libltdl3-dev with out using apt-get where would I go to do that? I installed it with apt-get but it didn't satisfy the libraries when compiling pulseaudio |
| 11:59.42 | idiocrash | wols: iirc? |
| 11:59.58 | Micha_Btz | i try to use blueman, but i have some trouble with python2.5. every proram i tyed out with python2.5 means ImportError: No module named gtk. i have also bluman installed on my laptop, there it works fine. so i installed the same python packages on my workstation, but it doesn't work. anyone an idea what can i do? |
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| 12:00.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | um... whers python-doc gone to? :\ |
| 12:00.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | !info python-doc |
| 12:00.43 | dpkg | python-doc: (Documentation for the high-level object-oriented language Python), section contrib/doc, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-1 (sid), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 52 kB |
| 12:00.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | oh, contrib :( |
| 12:00.57 | wols | !iirc |
| 12:00.58 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 12:01.02 | TurboBee | !info libltdl3-dev |
| 12:01.06 | dpkg | libltdl3-dev: (A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU libtool), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.5.24-2 (sid), Packaged size: 357 kB, Installed size: 1572 kB |
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| 12:02.07 | TurboBee | ahhh! yes |
| 12:02.16 | TurboBee | how do i get just this one package out of sid? http://packages.debian.org/sid/libltdl3-dev/arm/filelist |
| 12:02.49 | yang | Which tool can be used for creating an Audio CD from mp3s ? |
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| 12:03.15 | TurboBee | yang, gnomebaker |
| 12:03.20 | yang | The .mp3 files should simply be converted into .wav's ? |
| 12:03.32 | TurboBee | yang, gnomebaker will take care of it ;p |
| 12:03.43 | mutante | k3b if you use that other wm |
| 12:03.50 | TurboBee | ew |
| 12:03.51 | yang | yes i use KDE |
| 12:03.56 | TurboBee | O_O |
| 12:04.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | how would be the best way to find what causes python-doc to be in contrib? |
| 12:04.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | s/how/what |
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| 12:05.31 | simonrvn | maddash: name 3 types of powwow songs |
| 12:05.42 | jelly-home | Kamping_Kaiser: umm... perhaps reading the changelog? |
| 12:06.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | jelly-home, thats a thought. p.d.o here i come i guess |
| 12:06.10 | maddash | simonrvn: what's powwow?! isn't that some kid rapper? |
| 12:06.51 | simonrvn | maddash: next time you won't feel like you have to make up for some sort of shortcoming and take it out on other people |
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| 12:07.35 | jelly-home | Kamping_Kaiser: aptitude changelog packagename |
| 12:07.42 | maddash | simonrvn: because I'm an insomniac and hate rappers in general? |
| 12:08.00 | Micha_Btz | i tryd to compile the gtk modul by myself, but i dont know how pygtk.pyc i should use, in my path. /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pygtk.py exsists, but /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pygtk.py not |
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| 12:08.38 | simonrvn | maddash: a) no b) not even vaguely related to rap c) go back to sleep, bye |
| 12:08.39 | jelly-home | simonrvn: is it a better way than counting to ten? |
| 12:08.50 | wfarr | What CD's do I need to get to install base system + GNOME + ndiswrapper ? |
| 12:08.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | jelly-home, heh. cant find a changelog - guess because i dont have contrib enabled |
| 12:09.16 | simonrvn | jelly-home: hey why ren't you in #d-ot? |
| 12:09.32 | maddash | simonrvn: huh?? at the risk of pushing my sleep-deprived brain too far, where did this quiz question come from? |
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| 12:09.54 | mosty | apt-get -f install, wants to install packages that i do not want. how do i clear that? |
| 12:10.08 | simonrvn | maddash: where did yours come from? ;) |
| 12:10.28 | maddash | simonrvn: mineS? |
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| 12:10.46 | Stealth` | hi all. |
| 12:10.56 | maddash | anyone know the gas constant |
| 12:10.57 | maddash | ? |
| 12:11.04 | maddash | whoops, wrong channel |
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| 12:11.13 | Stealth` | :D |
| 12:11.15 | Stealth` | Lol |
| 12:11.19 | Hoxzer | :P almighty maol know |
| 12:11.20 | Hoxzer | s |
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| 12:12.33 | Hoxzer | :D Nobody get's it. Maol is a book that finnish high schoolers use to find out all the constants and equations |
| 12:12.46 | Hoxzer | it iss almost like bible to me <3 |
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| 12:14.04 | keram | hey |
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| 12:14.53 | keram | does anyone know how to turn on your laptop monitor. i am just using a plain terminal, no x or window manager, and when i close the lid of the laptop the monitor goes totally dead |
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| 12:15.00 | keram | is there a way to bring it back? |
| 12:15.12 | zinx | try pressing the Fn key |
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| 12:15.31 | keram | i get nothing |
| 12:15.32 | amphi | keram: if not, perhaps a quick jab of the power button |
| 12:15.40 | jelly-home | Kamping_Kaiser: in any case, the changelog just says "python-doc-defaults (2.3.5-6) unstable; urgency=low * Build from extra source, pythonX.Y-doc had to be moved to contrib. |
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| 12:15.49 | keram | amphi, nope :/ |
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| 12:16.03 | keram | amphi, that just shut it down :/ |
| 12:16.41 | maddash | !4*8.31447*303.15*(.25*log(.25)+.75*log(.75)+.75*(.4857+.1077*.5+.0191*.25)) |
| 12:16.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | jelly-home, ok, thanks |
| 12:16.50 | maddash | !wake up |
| 12:16.50 | dpkg | maddash: I'm already awake! :) |
| 12:16.56 | jelly-home | maddash: please stop |
| 12:17.19 | maddash | :( I'm so disappointed. now I have to stretch my fingers for alt+tab. |
| 12:17.50 | keram | any other ideas? |
| 12:18.05 | jelly-home | keram: the laptop otherwise works? |
| 12:18.10 | keram | yep |
| 12:18.17 | keram | i can ssh to it |
| 12:18.18 | zinx | keram: when you reboot, turn off the feature that puts it to sleep when you close the lid :P |
| 12:18.21 | zinx | oh? |
| 12:18.27 | keram | it doesnt get put to sleep though |
| 12:18.30 | keram | there is no X running |
| 12:18.36 | jelly-home | keram: which graphic card, btw? |
| 12:18.39 | keram | i think its the hardware that turns it off |
| 12:18.39 | amphi | keram: what does cat /sys/power/state say? |
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| 12:19.03 | keram | amphi, mem disk |
| 12:19.12 | TurboBee | hey if i want to change my distro to sid all i have to do is change the references to etch in /etc/apt/sources.list to lenny right? |
| 12:19.25 | keram | jelly-home, not sure i think its some integrated intel card |
| 12:19.27 | maddash | TurboBee: no, to sid |
| 12:19.34 | amphi | keram: as root, does 'echo mem > /sys/power/state' put it into the unwakable state? |
| 12:19.43 | zinx | amphi: it's apparently not in such a state |
| 12:19.48 | TurboBee | madclicker, sid is lenny right? |
| 12:19.52 | TurboBee | er |
| 12:19.54 | wols | TurboBee: no |
| 12:19.58 | maddash | TurboBee: only if 1=2 |
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| 12:20.02 | TurboBee | oh |
| 12:20.12 | wols | sid is unstable, lenn yis currently testing |
| 12:20.17 | TurboBee | i see |
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| 12:21.36 | keram | that echo command is not working |
| 12:21.46 | keram | write error: resource temporarily unavilable |
| 12:22.07 | TurboBee | Err http://security.us.debian.org sid/updates/main Packages |
| 12:22.08 | TurboBee | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.21 | TurboBee | is that ok when i am doing apt-get update ? |
| 12:22.43 | keram | i dont think there is security updates for sid |
| 12:22.53 | keram | you should comment that line out of /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:23.09 | TurboBee | ok |
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| 12:23.49 | keram | any other ideas? |
| 12:24.17 | TurboBee | W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 12:24.21 | TurboBee | how do i solve that one? |
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| 12:24.44 | wols | TurboBee: you read the dmm site more carefully |
| 12:25.13 | TurboBee | i got it :) |
| 12:25.58 | TurboBee | upgrading to sid *crosses fingers* |
| 12:26.38 | keram | well if anyone has any ideas about how to turn on my monitor send me a PM |
| 12:27.01 | TurboBee | turn on your monitor? :) |
| 12:27.05 | keram | i need to sleep but would appreciate any suggestions if you have them |
| 12:27.05 | TurboBee | push the button |
| 12:27.12 | keram | turn on laptop monitor |
| 12:27.17 | keram | when i close lid it shuts off |
| 12:27.27 | TurboBee | hm, what video driver are you using |
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| 12:27.45 | keram | i dont think it matters much, not running X or any window manager |
| 12:27.53 | TurboBee | oh |
| 12:27.55 | keram | its just the plain old terminal |
| 12:27.59 | TurboBee | weird |
| 12:28.02 | TurboBee | no clue :/ |
| 12:28.04 | zinx | keram: it does.. there's still fbcon stuff to worry with :P |
| 12:28.05 | dbmoodb | hi ah after the latest kernel update- i restarted and the now default grub option doesn't work... any ideas ? |
| 12:28.25 | dbmoodb | - as to why this may be the case (not a problem) |
| 12:28.43 | keram | well i dunno |
| 12:29.06 | yogurt2ungue | keram did you see the error in "apt-get update" or similar? |
| 12:29.15 | dbmoodb | initrid .. line if that helps ? |
| 12:29.25 | keram | huh? |
| 12:29.40 | Coweater | keram: tried the fn key to switch to external monitor and back? it sounds like an acpi problem though |
| 12:29.51 | keram | Coweater, yeah i tried that, it didnt work |
| 12:30.03 | zinx | tried updating your BIOS? |
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| 12:30.35 | keram | zinx, one of the laptops that this is happening on is not even 6 months old |
| 12:30.40 | jelly-home | keram: tried starting X ? :-) |
| 12:30.41 | zinx | so? |
| 12:30.42 | keram | zinx, but no i havent |
| 12:30.55 | zinx | it really should be turning the screen back on when you open it |
| 12:31.02 | keram | oh hey on the older laptop the fn+crt/lcd brought it back |
| 12:31.06 | zinx | if there isn't a bios update that fixes it, there should be - bug the manufacturer |
| 12:31.33 | keram | its a dell latitude |
| 12:31.44 | jelly-home | keram: are you using a framebuffer console or real text mode? |
| 12:31.49 | dbmoodb | ooo i got one |
| 12:32.00 | keram | d520 |
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| 12:32.08 | keram | jelly-home, i am not sure |
| 12:32.22 | keram | when i installed debian i did not select desktop environment or standard system |
| 12:32.34 | jelly-home | keram: is there a penguin logo when you boot up? |
| 12:32.42 | keram | no |
| 12:32.46 | keram | its only text |
| 12:32.52 | jelly-home | probably textmode, then |
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| 12:33.35 | keram | maybe its the video card |
| 12:33.40 | simonrvn | only prob with the logo is that it interferes with the text display |
| 12:33.44 | keram | i noticed that the integrated cards seem to be buggy |
| 12:33.57 | zinx | well, it is a Dell :P |
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| 12:34.03 | simonrvn | esp. annoying in s.u. mode |
| 12:34.08 | zinx | but no, it would be the BIOS afaik |
| 12:34.12 | keram | i can never seem to get a laptop with integrated card work with a projector / second monitor |
| 12:34.12 | jelly-home | keram: vbetool might be useful |
| 12:34.24 | dbmoodb | / really keram |
| 12:34.29 | keram | yeah |
| 12:34.36 | dbmoodb | should be able to - integrated intel or ... |
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| 12:34.57 | zinx | my laptop has an integrated 8600M GT |
| 12:35.05 | keram | well i have 3 laptops, 2 with integrated and one with stand alone video card |
| 12:35.12 | simonrvn | i should go finish my nap. later |
| 12:35.13 | keram | only the stand alone will ever work with projector |
| 12:35.24 | dbmoodb | k |
| 12:35.35 | jelly-home | the i915GM in my laptop works really well, doesn't even need the 915resolution kludges |
| 12:35.50 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 12:35.54 | keram | how do i find out the card that is in the laptop? |
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| 12:36.03 | jelly-home | !what's my hardware |
| 12:36.03 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! |
| 12:36.05 | wols | keram: lspci |
| 12:36.06 | Ace2016 | anyone know how to do a hue shift on a lot of files? |
| 12:36.27 | cahoot | sounds like a job for convert |
| 12:36.39 | keram | so then this is the one? Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller |
| 12:36.41 | zinx | Ace2016: graphicsmagick or gimp scripting, graphicsmagick is probably easier |
| 12:36.55 | jelly-home | imagemagick changed name? |
| 12:37.04 | wols | keram: yes |
| 12:37.05 | zinx | jelly-home: no. |
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| 12:37.20 | Ace2016 | i opened all the icons in gimp and avant crashed :( |
| 12:37.26 | keram | well that one never has worked with projector |
| 12:37.56 | jelly-home | zinx: ah, a fork. |
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| 12:38.20 | zinx | jelly-home: indeed |
| 12:38.34 | keram | sound doesnt bother me too much but when you cant even use a projector it gets me frustrated |
| 12:39.14 | zinx | at least it's not via? |
| 12:39.29 | keram | via? |
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| 12:40.27 | cahoot | keram: out of curiosity - the steps described here doesn't work? http://phanatic.hu/?s=beamer |
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| 12:41.18 | jelly-home | keram: which debian release are you running? that '965 card ought to work in newer Xorg |
| 12:41.33 | zinx | jelly-home: he's not even using X. text console won't turn back on. |
| 12:41.46 | jelly-home | zinx: I've read all of that. |
| 12:42.07 | keram | etch |
| 12:42.38 | keram | but the box were talking about actually has this card: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller |
| 12:42.46 | keram | if that makes much of a difference |
| 12:42.50 | Ace2016 | i just did them all by hand, :sigh: |
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| 12:43.18 | xand | bless! |
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| 12:44.34 | jelly-home | keram: these are some of the things I would try: vbetool; or boot in fb console; or use X instead of console |
| 12:45.10 | keram | alright |
| 12:45.23 | jelly-home | keram: text mode + crappy bios (whether acpi or vesa one) = teh lose |
| 12:45.40 | keram | heh alright |
| 12:45.42 | keram | what is vbetool? |
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| 12:45.53 | TurboBee | is there a way to install all of the dev files? |
| 12:45.55 | keram | cahoot, those commands actually did the trick! |
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| 12:46.00 | jelly-home | !info vbetool |
| 12:46.06 | dpkg | vbetool: (run real-mode video BIOS code to alter hardware state), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.0-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 44 kB |
| 12:46.13 | keram | cahoot, but it says cannot find 0x50 mode |
| 12:46.37 | cahoot | keram: guess one can use 1280x1024 or such |
| 12:47.31 | keram | cant find those modes either |
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| 12:50.09 | idiocrash | Can anyone recommend a good console-based music player? |
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| 12:50.29 | mosty | idiocrash, depends what features you want |
| 12:50.42 | hatter | do you think one processor can write an image to multiple dvds if they are each on a seperate ide channel ? ie with a pci card ? |
| 12:51.01 | wols | hatter: yes |
| 12:51.13 | mosty | hatter, that is not cpu bound, as far as i know |
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| 12:51.44 | cahoot | keram: I suppose xrandr -q will ist available modes |
| 12:51.55 | cahoot | s/ist/list/ |
| 12:52.06 | wols | hatter: problems could be PCI speeds and harddisk speeds |
| 12:52.27 | hatter | wols, do you think there is a limit ? i am thinking, 1x mobo ide channels, 2x expansion card 2x sata |
| 12:52.51 | wols | hatter: how fast in MB/s is your writing speed |
| 12:52.56 | hatter | wols, hmmm maybe the image can go on a ram disk |
| 12:53.07 | keram | cahoot, do you know of a way to make it extend the desktop rather than just export my screen? |
| 12:53.10 | wols | PCI can reach 50-60MB/s I guess in the real world |
| 12:53.10 | keram | if that makes sense |
| 12:53.22 | hatter | i dont think a dvd can go that fast |
| 12:53.43 | idiocrash | mosty: something fairly basic that lets me browse my music collection, play internet radio streams, maybe do playlists. etc. |
| 12:54.02 | cahoot | keram: all I know is from this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 |
| 12:54.49 | wols | mosty: 1x writing speed is ~1350kB/s |
| 12:54.54 | cahoot | keram: I *guess* you need define a larger virtual |
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| 12:56.12 | keram | cahoot, i see |
| 12:56.37 | cusco | hey dudes.... how do I make ctrontab -e use nano |
| 12:56.43 | cusco | instead of whatever it is using? |
| 12:56.53 | HardDisk_WP | does anyone pls have a DNS server for me? |
| 12:56.54 | keram | cahoot, but that mode isnt found |
| 12:57.03 | HardDisk_WP | I am forced to OpenDNS - which sucks. |
| 12:57.12 | cusco | it is using joe |
| 12:57.37 | wols | hatter: install bind and it should use the rootservers? |
| 12:57.39 | mosty | cusco: i believe there's an environment variable. man 5 crontab should know |
| 12:57.48 | cusco | ok ty |
| 12:57.53 | cahoot | keram: as I said - my knowledge is sparse and based on the url above |
| 12:57.56 | wols | HardDisk_WP: ^^ |
| 12:58.21 | keram | alrigh |
| 12:58.24 | keram | i will read some man pagesw |
| 12:58.30 | keram | thanks for the pointers though! |
| 12:59.12 | cahoot | keram: was mostly curious if the beamer tip works since I'll have to use it tomoorow |
| 12:59.46 | keram | yeah it works grea |
| 12:59.48 | keram | great |
| 12:59.53 | keram | all you need is the first 2 commands |
| 12:59.53 | HardDisk_WP | wols, will this be overrided by DHCP? |
| 13:00.06 | wols | HardDisk_WP: usually yes which is why you tell dhcp not to do it |
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| 13:00.21 | HardDisk_WP | oh then I have a problem |
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| 13:00.46 | HardDisk_WP | situation is: i need the gateway with included dns resolver because to have a resolving of lan machine names |
| 13:00.55 | HardDisk_WP | but unfortunately, the router uses OpenDNS |
| 13:01.05 | HardDisk_WP | which ALWAYS resolves domains |
| 13:01.14 | cahoot | keram: thanks |
| 13:01.22 | HardDisk_WP | if they do not exist, opendns resolves to a "domain not found" search page |
| 13:01.30 | HardDisk_WP | and I want to get rid of that annyoance |
| 13:01.55 | wols | you can resolve the LAN via /etc/hosts |
| 13:02.12 | HardDisk_WP | oh no, not manually :( |
| 13:02.37 | HardDisk_WP | in my school's lan we have ~400 computers, in home lan 5...dont really want to enter all that by hand |
| 13:02.55 | HardDisk_WP | especially since our school uses dhcp to assign IPs |
| 13:03.25 | wols | why are you using openDNS? |
| 13:03.27 | keram | brb just added virtual size to xorg.conf |
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| 13:06.18 | HardDisk_WP | wols, my dad does... |
| 13:06.25 | HardDisk_WP | the antiphishing stuff... |
| 13:06.44 | wols | HardDisk_WP: again: use your own |
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| 13:07.01 | triplc | hi all |
| 13:07.09 | HardDisk_WP | yea. but then the resolving in the lan at home/in school wont work |
| 13:07.17 | HardDisk_WP | wols, or do I misunderstand sth.? |
| 13:07.22 | Andri[IS] | Is there any way to make dpkg check for checksums on all packages on a machine and revert if any changes have been made? (excluding configuration files if possible) |
| 13:07.24 | wols | som custom post-up script in interfaces could do it |
| 13:07.34 | triplc | which apt-get <something> i need to install to have wxPython? |
| 13:07.46 | wols | with enough custom trickery it can |
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| 13:07.53 | triplc | (there is no package name wxpython :( ) |
| 13:08.12 | asg | triplc: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:08.40 | wols | triplc: there is |
| 13:08.46 | triplc | asg: i already search... but only find: python-wxversion, python-wxgtk2.6 |
| 13:08.55 | triplc | (in am using debian etch 4.0) |
| 13:09.03 | wols | triplc: so what do you think python-wxgtk2.6 is? |
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| 13:11.41 | Andri[IS] | Don't tell me you can check for program integrity with RPM but not DPKG |
| 13:12.09 | abrotman | !info debsums etch |
| 13:12.11 | dpkg | debsums: (Verify installed package files against MD5 checksums.), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.0.30 (etch), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 88 kB |
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| 13:13.20 | Micha_Btz | someone any hints for mypython problem? |
| 13:13.52 | abrotman | Andri[IS]: it won't revert them for you .. but it will tell you what fails |
| 13:13.55 | wols | Micha_Btz: install the python gtk extension? |
| 13:14.01 | Andri[IS] | abrotman, thanks |
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| 13:17.09 | b0ha | hello guys |
| 13:18.10 | b0ha | i get this error: Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/source/' If patch or script failed, check pre/ and post/ for current stage |
| 13:18.17 | b0ha | how can i fix this |
| 13:18.29 | abrotman | what are you installing? |
| 13:18.41 | b0ha | mac80211 |
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| 13:19.30 | Micha_Btz | sysiphus:/home/profbunny/source/blueman-0.3-old-2.4# dpkg -l|grep python|grep gtk |
| 13:19.30 | Micha_Btz | ii python-gtk-1.2 0.6.12-8+b1 GTK support module for Python |
| 13:19.30 | Micha_Btz | ii python-gtk2 2.12.0-2 Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set |
| 13:19.31 | Micha_Btz | ii python-gtk2-dev 2.12.0-2 GTK+ bindings: devel files |
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| 13:20.02 | abrotman | !paste |
| 13:20.02 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 13:20.09 | b0ha | any ideas abrotman ? |
| 13:20.20 | wols | b0ha: install kernel sources |
| 13:20.26 | abrotman | b0ha: use the ones that are already compiled? |
| 13:20.26 | wols | b0ha: or rather, kernel headers |
| 13:20.30 | b0ha | btw how can i check pre/ post |
| 13:20.45 | b0ha | wols but i think i have kernel headers installed |
| 13:20.45 | abrotman | !find mac80211 |
| 13:20.54 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mac80211' (3 of 13): (/lib/modules/2.6.23-1-486/kernel/net/mac80211/mac80211.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.23-1-486 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.23-1-686/kernel/net/mac80211/mac80211.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.23-1-686 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.23-1-amd64/kernel/net/mac80211/mac80211.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.23-1-amd64. |
| 13:21.00 | abrotman | that was easy! |
| 13:21.00 | wols | b0ha: don't "think": but _check_ |
| 13:21.14 | wols | abrotman: you're lucky it went in int .23 |
| 13:21.21 | eth01 | !backup |
| 13:21.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression) |
| 13:21.32 | abrotman | wols: it's not in lenny? |
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| 13:21.51 | abrotman | argh .. damn |
| 13:21.53 | wols | abrotman: new wlan stack got into .23 |
| 13:21.59 | eth01 | hrm |
| 13:22.45 | b0ha | wols, i have linux-headers-2.6.22-3-686 |
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| 13:23.27 | wols | b0ha: then you need the sources I guess |
| 13:23.40 | wols | b0ha: or better yet, install kernel .23 as abrotman suggested |
| 13:25.06 | b0ha | wols what packets are required for .23 kernel |
| 13:25.17 | cmihai | What's the difference between "debian-40r1-amd64-CD-1.iso 19-Aug-2007 14:56 647M" and "debian-update-4.0r1-amd64-CD-1.iso 20-Aug-2007 20:07 612M"? |
| 13:25.30 | wols | b0ha: the .23 kernel image |
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| 13:25.58 | b0ha | ok wols & abrotman thank you |
| 13:25.59 | mosty | cmihai, i imagine the update iso contains the packages updated since 4.0r0 |
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| 13:26.12 | wols | cmihai: the update is for when you have it already installed |
| 13:26.26 | cmihai | wols, yeah, but can't you do that with the regular installer? |
| 13:26.38 | wols | cmihai: yes |
| 13:26.41 | cmihai | Or just use it as a repository... |
| 13:26.48 | marc7 | how would you deal with processing a single quote on the command line... for example, using sed to replace X with '... using sed 's/X/'/g' doesn't work, and you also can't break out of the ' with just a simple backslash |
| 13:26.49 | cmihai | So... what's the point of that image then? |
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| 13:26.57 | mosty | cmihai, just setup an apt-proxy and be done with it |
| 13:26.58 | wols | but people who already have debian installed don't want the installer and it'S the wrong ISO for updating their install |
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| 13:30.21 | b0ha_ | i cant find mac80211 using apt |
| 13:30.33 | b0ha_ | what repositories do i need ? |
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| 13:32.19 | wols | b0ha: what debian branch do you run? |
| 13:32.20 | mosty | marc7, what are you trying to do? |
| 13:32.38 | b0ha_ | wols, lenny |
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| 13:33.22 | wols | b0ha_: sid main |
| 13:33.25 | marc7 | mosty: echo a whole bunch of output, pipe it into awk (or sed), and have it print/parse a single quote |
| 13:34.04 | mosty | marc7, what do you mean by "print/parse a single quote" ? |
| 13:34.14 | marc7 | example 1: ... | awk '{print "CREATE DATABASE ' \"$\1" ';"}' |
| 13:34.20 | marc7 | er |
| 13:34.30 | marc7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.43 | marc7 | it's those single quotes that really wreck stuff |
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| 13:35.46 | dimir | Moin! |
| 13:36.34 | Trewas | damn it's annoying that apt-get installs recommends by default nowadays, and manual-page doesn't even bother to tell which flag disables that |
| 13:36.47 | dimir | wtf! |
| 13:37.00 | dimir | Bullcrap! |
| 13:37.31 | dimir | Anyhow, using apt-get to install programs should be deprecated. |
| 13:38.02 | abrotman | Trewas: man apt.conf ? |
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| 13:38.12 | abrotman | dimir: it has its place |
| 13:38.18 | mosty | dimir, what's wrong with apt-get ? |
| 13:38.34 | dimir | aptitude handles that much better for years. |
| 13:38.36 | Trewas | abrotman: doesn't seem to be there either (but I found the command-line flag, --no-install-recommends) |
| 13:38.46 | abrotman | ok |
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| 13:39.56 | abrotman | i wonder if there'd be a way to find all the packages on your system that are merely Recommends |
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| 13:40.29 | asg | abrotman: for what purpose? |
| 13:40.47 | abrotman | asg: well .. if you were running low on HDD space .. like deborphan .. but for recommends |
| 13:40.57 | abrotman | as one example anyways |
| 13:41.18 | mosty | abrotman, i would have thought that deborphan does do that |
| 13:41.40 | abrotman | oh .. i guess in a way it does |
| 13:41.48 | abrotman | it shows packages that have no dependency |
| 13:42.11 | abrotman | well .. there we go! |
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| 13:53.00 | TheViral | helloooo, is anyone here experienced with DCHP licensing and that stuff |
| 13:53.05 | b0ha_ | wols, i added deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 13:53.17 | abrotman | b0ha_: don't do that |
| 13:53.17 | b0ha_ | but then i get some error when apt-get update |
| 13:53.27 | TheViral | I am having problems connecting to my router and sometimes other routers and it all started around when I hibernated |
| 13:53.38 | b0ha_ | abrotman, so how can i upgrage my kernel to .23 |
| 13:53.50 | TheViral | something about lack of persistant licenses database |
| 13:53.53 | jabka | sometimes after hiberante your card won't wake up |
| 13:54.01 | abrotman | b0ha_: you can do the above if you do pinning .. or you can just grab the stuff you need from packages.debian.org |
| 13:54.07 | TheViral | even if I restart? |
| 13:54.09 | abrotman | !pinning |
| 13:54.10 | dpkg | If you are running stable, don't pin; use a backport. Ask me about <backports> or <simple sid backport>. If you're using testing, man apt_preferences or see http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning. |
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| 13:54.33 | abrotman | so you'd pin to lenny ... and then make it so stuff only comes from sid if you explicitly install it |
| 13:54.39 | TheViral | I mean leases not licensing |
| 13:54.50 | b0ha_ | abrotman, ok i will grab linux-image then from packages.debian.org |
| 13:55.05 | abrotman | b0ha_: and then once 2.6.23 enters lenny ... you oculd remove the sid line. . and the pinning |
| 13:55.18 | abrotman | b0ha_: you'll also want that mac803221 package |
| 13:55.20 | jabka | TheViral :after reboot it should wake up |
| 13:55.21 | eth01 | whats the most effective way of backing-up my lenny system? |
| 13:55.23 | abrotman | but the right one :) |
| 13:55.25 | TheViral | when my computer tries to ifup ath0.... I get this |
| 13:55.26 | TheViral | http://pastebin.com/d416b8a83 |
| 13:55.40 | TheViral | jabka: I'm using my wireless right now...but sometimes it jsut won't work |
| 13:55.45 | b0ha_ | abrotman, yes but probably i have to install linux-image befor mac89211 |
| 13:55.46 | jabka | TheViral: also check if your lease isn't inifint (really big number) |
| 13:55.49 | abrotman | eth01: print it all out |
| 13:55.55 | abrotman | b0ha_: yes |
| 13:55.58 | TheViral | jabka: And I just can't connect to my home router at all |
| 13:56.04 | TheViral | jabka: How do I do that? |
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| 13:56.26 | jabka | try dowing : iwconfig eth1 essid YOURNET then dhclient |
| 13:56.28 | TheViral | jabka: Is there a way to clear all my leases? |
| 13:57.00 | TheViral | if I do this right now then I may lose my net completely :P |
| 13:57.07 | TheViral | anything else I should know in case it doesn't come back? |
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| 13:57.24 | jabka | first of all try iwlist eth1 scan |
| 13:57.30 | abrotman | b0ha_: don't forget to remove that line from your sources |
| 13:57.33 | jabka | before config |
| 13:57.52 | SRabbelier | Heya, I installed madwifi but I don't know how to proceed with connecting to my Wlan now, could anyone give me a pointer? |
| 13:57.54 | jabka | TheViral: and also read last dmesg last reporrts |
| 13:57.57 | TheViral | jabka: I get results, and it's ath0, using atheros with madwifi |
| 13:58.12 | b0ha_ | abrotman, yup i removed it |
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| 13:58.23 | TheViral | jabka: I do not know about dmesg..what do I do with that and how? |
| 13:59.12 | jabka | TheViral: 1 . man dmesg , 2. dmesg will give all modules speaches (i hope that this is the right term) |
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| 13:59.42 | SRabbelier | TheViral, dmesg prints msgs from the kernel modules |
| 13:59.50 | pumpkin0 | jabka: speaches = debug outputs. |
| 13:59.51 | jabka | TheViral : i donno about madwifi but it may be connected to loading and unloading of module |
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| 14:00.29 | nostahl | how do i extract a exe file to get the .inf out of it |
| 14:00.31 | b0ha_ | abrotman, and what is a .dsc file ? |
| 14:00.39 | wols | b0ha_: description |
| 14:00.48 | abrotman | b0ha_: uhm .. you want the .deb file |
| 14:00.49 | jabka | nostahl : cabextract could help. |
| 14:00.53 | pumpkin0 | nostahl: depends on the exe. Is it a selfextracting zip ? |
| 14:01.04 | nostahl | its a netgear driver exe |
| 14:01.10 | b0ha_ | abrotman, yea but i dont see it |
| 14:01.18 | abrotman | b0ha_: moment |
| 14:01.19 | TheViral | jabka: This is what my dmesg shows http://pastebin.com/d40960f9b |
| 14:01.23 | pumpkin0 | nostahl: wine yourexe.exe ? |
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| 14:01.32 | abrotman | b0ha_: what's your CPU ? |
| 14:01.41 | nostahl | that might work |
| 14:01.42 | nostahl | ty |
| 14:01.44 | b0ha_ | intel core 2 duo |
| 14:02.01 | TheViral | SRabbelier: just in case you may make use of this too.... http://pastebin.com/d40960f9b |
| 14:02.02 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/linux-image-2.6.23-1-686/download |
| 14:02.18 | mike1o | im unmet dependencies problems in installing vlc... http://paste.debian.net/45010 |
| 14:02.34 | SRabbelier | TheVIral: well at least you get msgs about wifi0! |
| 14:02.34 | b0ha_ | oh thanks abrotman , i was comfuzed because of that i386 :) |
| 14:02.40 | SRabbelier | TheViral, how did you install? |
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| 14:03.14 | TheViral | SRabbelier: well...wifi0 is not my wireless, ath0 is, and I followed the installation instructions on here from a bunch of people |
| 14:03.21 | wols | mike1o: on what debian branch are you |
| 14:03.32 | mike1o | wols, lenny |
| 14:03.33 | TheViral | SRabbelier: I remember there was some stuff involving m-a a-i |
| 14:03.42 | TheViral | SRabbelier: and modprobing |
| 14:03.52 | pumpkin0 | mike1o: apt-get update and retry. same output ? |
| 14:03.54 | wols | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 14:03.54 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
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| 14:04.05 | SRabbelier | TheViral: apt-get install madwifi-source, m-a prepare, m-a a-i madwifi? |
| 14:04.25 | wols | mike1o: so the question remains: where did you get your vlc from? |
| 14:04.35 | b0ha_ | hmm so that mac80211 comes with linux-image allready :) |
| 14:04.38 | TheViral | SRabbelier: yeah that looks like it |
| 14:04.39 | mike1o | wols, tnx for the info... on the official vlc didn't say so |
| 14:04.48 | SRabbelier | TheViral: sweet, thanks ^^ |
| 14:04.57 | wols | mike1o: that vlc is most likely for is |
| 14:05.14 | TheViral | SRabbelier: What happens if I run DHClient? |
| 14:05.47 | TheViral | SRabbelier: like..out of the blue, does it need to be right after I try to connect? |
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| 14:06.05 | wols | mike1o: get vlc from etch |
| 14:06.06 | mike1o | wols, so should I just try to run off binaries instead of trying to install packages? |
| 14:06.07 | SRabbelier | TheVIral: I'm afraid I got as much of a clue as you do :P |
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| 14:06.17 | mike1o | ok |
| 14:06.17 | jabka | TheViral: you should get a dhcp info |
| 14:06.22 | mike1o | tnx |
| 14:06.29 | TheViral | jabka: it just outputs info? |
| 14:06.58 | SRabbelier | rebooting, seeing if I got wifi0 now :P |
| 14:06.59 | jabka | TheViral : no it will show you what happning : (dhcp pack from dhcp request etc...) |
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| 14:07.31 | jabka | TheViral: if you don't get any leases then it is module related (modprobe -r + mordprobe) |
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| 14:07.50 | jabka | TheViral : also does it happen only on hibernating ? |
| 14:08.14 | jabka | if yes it may be related to /etc/hibernate/common.conf |
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| 14:08.47 | TheViral | jabka: Well, all was fine before and then I decided to hibernate while I went to my new house. I bring it back up and I have this problem |
| 14:09.07 | TheViral | I can connect to my router fine on windows |
| 14:09.14 | TheViral | it only broke on my debian |
| 14:09.26 | jabka | TheViral : then it is easy |
| 14:09.51 | jabka | hibernate stores all info just add remove modules and load them after hibernate |
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| 14:10.08 | TheViral | jabka:and in my dhclient.ath0.leases file there are two leases and each has a time of 86400 |
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| 14:10.24 | TheViral | jabka: I remove and add ALL modules? |
| 14:10.31 | jabka | nom |
| 14:10.53 | jabka | moment ill write .. |
| 14:10.56 | TheViral | k |
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| 14:13.12 | ody | Hey guys, I compiled my own kernel and now gnome complains about failing to initialize HAL and when the system boots I get errors about appletalk services, do I need those stuff and if I do what do I need to enable in the kernels config? |
| 14:14.29 | jabka | TheViral: write a small shell script that will do : iwconfig ath0 essid any [newline] dhclient ath0 then add this script name inside /etc/hibernate/common.conf add :OnResume 99 script name |
| 14:14.41 | cmihai | ody, Why do you need to compile your own kernel? What about the kernel modules? Did you package it? Appleu talk is used to talk to Macs, if you don't have Macs, you can disable it. |
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| 14:15.28 | jabka | i hope this helpfull |
| 14:15.34 | jabka | *was |
| 14:16.30 | TheViral | jabka: Is that only to fix it when I return from hibernate? Cause I'm looking for a solution to the lasting problem. It still aftects me even though I've rebooted |
| 14:17.00 | jabka | this should help on hibernate |
| 14:17.33 | jabka | about after reboot : maybe your netname changes between reboots (diffrent nets ?) |
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| 14:18.16 | darrh00 | what is called Kernel udeb? |
| 14:18.18 | ody | cmihai: I made a .deb package of the kernel using the method from the debian website, I figured its better to run a kernel with only the stuff I need. Is there anyway to stop appletalk from trying to start? I dont have a mac. |
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| 14:18.39 | TheViral | jabka: What do you mean? |
| 14:19.04 | karmatronic | ody: remove netatalk |
| 14:20.35 | ody | done, thanks |
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| 14:21.32 | TheViral | jabka: where do I put OnResume 99 script...? Like which category? |
| 14:21.50 | TheViral | jabka: network I guess haha |
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| 14:25.41 | ScreenSaver | hello anyone know why when i tried to configure the lxdream (dreamcast emulator ) its trhows this error? The OpenGL library (libGL.so) could not be found, but is required. |
| 14:25.47 | ScreenSaver | what can i apt-get! |
| 14:25.48 | ScreenSaver | lol |
| 14:25.54 | ScreenSaver | ? |
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| 14:25.59 | Gnurdux | probably mesa |
| 14:26.27 | ScreenSaver | how can i check? |
| 14:26.28 | Gnurdux | ScreenSaver, what kind of video card do you have? |
| 14:26.32 | ScreenSaver | ATI |
| 14:26.38 | ScreenSaver | im on a laptop |
| 14:26.43 | ScreenSaver | with ati 1150 |
| 14:26.43 | Gnurdux | and what driver are you using? |
| 14:26.50 | ScreenSaver | the propietary... |
| 14:27.06 | Gnurdux | that should supply its own libGL.so i think |
| 14:27.21 | Gnurdux | i might be getting mixed up, but i seem to remember the nvidia one does |
| 14:27.40 | ScreenSaver | hmmm correctly... i thing so... i have to use free one? |
| 14:27.46 | ScreenSaver | sorry, opensource |
| 14:27.51 | Gnurdux | not necessarily |
| 14:27.58 | ScreenSaver | what can i do? |
| 14:28.03 | ScreenSaver | in noob |
| 14:28.03 | Gnurdux | probably you just need to setup the proprietary one better |
| 14:28.07 | ScreenSaver | im noob |
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| 14:28.23 | ScreenSaver | hmmm im using ubuntu |
| 14:28.26 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 14:28.30 | Gnurdux | then ask in #ubuntu |
| 14:28.36 | ScreenSaver | im tryng |
| 14:28.40 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 14:28.41 | ScreenSaver | but ubuntu is deban based |
| 14:28.44 | ScreenSaver | :) |
| 14:28.48 | Gnurdux | read the topic of this channel |
| 14:28.53 | ScreenSaver | and debian is more experts |
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| 14:29.06 | ScreenSaver | im not asking for ubuntu problem |
| 14:29.09 | Gnurdux | doesn |
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| 14:29.21 | Gnurdux | 't matter, the topic states you shouldnt be here |
| 14:29.37 | KurtKraut | Everytime I reboot my server my /etc/hostname is changed back to a previous name. Do I need to change anything else ? |
| 14:29.53 | Gnurdux | and it might be distro-dependent, ubuntu has made all sorts of changes. it used to be just like debian but not so much anymore |
| 14:29.57 | jelly-home | ScreenSaver: a Debian solution might subtly hose your non-Debian system |
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| 14:30.41 | ScreenSaver | hmm |
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| 14:30.55 | ScreenSaver | when i search in my sistem the file is at usr/lib/libGL.so |
| 14:31.00 | hoxu | any suggestions for playing and simultaneously ripping web radio streams? |
| 14:31.15 | ScreenSaver | how can i configure to use it when y do a ./configure? |
| 14:31.30 | Gnurdux | the ./configure is setting up the ATI driver? |
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| 14:32.05 | Gnurdux | you know theres probably an ubuntu package for the driver that you can apt-get rather than install manually |
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| 14:33.09 | smacnay | to use beryl in debian, do I install the compiz packages or add the beryl deb sources and install from them? |
| 14:33.15 | smacnay | I am using testing |
| 14:33.19 | Gnurdux | ScreenSaver, http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Ubuntu_ATI_proprietary_display_driver_installation_through_APT |
| 14:33.30 | Gnurdux | smacnay, the compiz packages are compiz, not beryl |
| 14:33.36 | Gnurdux | but beryl is obsolete |
| 14:33.41 | Gnurdux | look up compiz-fusion |
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| 14:33.55 | Waki | Hi there , i'd like to know if a server can work with both ECC and non ECC installed memory |
| 14:34.03 | smacnay | Gnurdux: oh, I thought compiz was a merge... my mistake |
| 14:34.06 | hoxu | Waki, #hardware |
| 14:34.07 | smacnay | thanks |
| 14:34.13 | Waki | ok thanks |
| 14:34.25 | Gnurdux | smacnay, well, beryl was a fork of compiz |
| 14:34.33 | Gnurdux | then it sort of remerged back in |
| 14:34.42 | hoxu | Waki, ##hardware :p |
| 14:35.10 | Gnurdux | but some of the stuff that was in beryl and not compiz was put in a set of compiz extensions called compiz-fusion |
| 14:35.12 | b0ha | guys look at this: http://pastebin.com/m33c20326 |
| 14:35.26 | b0ha | i instatalled new wireless drivers |
| 14:35.42 | b0ha | why do i have now wlan0_rename interface ? |
| 14:35.51 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 14:35.52 | b0ha | before eth1 was wireless |
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| 14:35.56 | Odysseas | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.58 | Gnurdux | sounds like its telling you to rename it |
| 14:36.14 | hoxu | b0ha, bug in udev maybe |
| 14:36.17 | Gnurdux | it looks like eth1 is still there tho |
| 14:36.17 | hoxu | !tell b0ha about z25 |
| 14:36.20 | b0ha | Gnurdux, and how shoud i do that |
| 14:36.24 | Gnurdux | no idea |
| 14:36.43 | Gnurdux | try using eth1 and ignoring wlan0_rename |
| 14:36.51 | b0ha | ok |
| 14:36.52 | Gnurdux | cause eth1 is still there |
| 14:37.13 | b0ha | too bad i dont have wireless access point here to try connection :/ |
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| 14:39.21 | SRabbelier | Heya, I can't seem to get wpa_gui started from command line, any advice on starting a gui applciation from the command line if it says "wpa_gui: cannot connect to X server"? |
| 14:39.48 | hoxu | SRabbelier, are you starting it as a different user than the session owner (root perhaps)? |
| 14:40.06 | jelly-home | Odysseas: in recent kernels, you can use / to search for options |
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| 14:40.22 | SRabbelier | hoxu: yes, session owner is my user account, trying to start it as root, is there a workaround for that? |
| 14:40.26 | hoxu | SRabbelier, try "xhost +localhost" as the session owner |
| 14:40.26 | jelly-home | Odysseas: ... in menuconfig |
| 14:40.31 | Odysseas | jelly-home: thanks I'll try that |
| 14:40.57 | cahoot | SRabbelier: use sudo |
| 14:41.23 | SRabbelier | hoxu: same problem |
| 14:41.40 | cahoot | SRabbelier: use sudo or sux |
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| 14:41.59 | SRabbelier | cahoot: yeah, that works I guess, but sometimes that's not an option and I'm wonderinf if there's a "better" way? |
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| 14:42.15 | cahoot | SRabbelier: plain wpa_supplicant |
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| 14:42.27 | jabka | Gnurdux : apt-file search libGL.so |
| 14:43.14 | abrotman | hoxu: that's awful .. use sux |
| 14:43.14 | SRabbelier | cahoot: what do you mean? |
| 14:44.00 | SRabbelier | I have wpa_supplicant installed, although I have no clue how to use it (which is why I'm trying to use wpa_gui, which tells me that it cannot get status info from wpa_supplicant now... :'() |
| 14:44.02 | hoxu | SRabbelier, see what abrotman and cahoot said about sux :p |
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| 14:44.10 | kelsin | SRabbelier: does "gksudo <app>" not work? |
| 14:44.49 | hoxu | abrotman, thanks for the info btw |
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| 14:45.03 | SRabbelier | kelsin: well, it starts the app, but wpa_gui still tells me "Could not get status from wpa_supplicant" |
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| 14:45.12 | skyfalcon866 | does debian use ext4 |
| 14:45.24 | cahoot | SRabbelier: create a wpa_supplicant.conf and edit interfaces accordingly - thne the default networkinitiation will do it all |
| 14:45.53 | SRabbelier | cahoot: can you explain what you mean with "edit interfaces accordingly"? |
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| 14:46.21 | jabka | vim /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:47.04 | cahoot | SRabbelier: like: auto wlan0 \n iface wlan0 inet dhcp \n wpa-conf /etc/wpaconf |
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| 14:47.54 | cahoot | SRabbelier: /etc/wpaconf being my name for wpa_supplicant.conf (lazy) |
| 14:48.01 | SRabbelier | cahoot: add that to /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 14:48.10 | cahoot | SRabbelier: yes |
| 14:48.16 | hoxu | SRabbelier, and that "\n" means newline :P |
| 14:48.27 | jabka | cahoot : iface wlan0 inet dhcp will start dhcp sequenxe on each reboot it isn't so good |
| 14:48.30 | SRabbelier | hoxu: hehe, figured that one ^^ |
| 14:48.48 | SRabbelier | cahoot: what will wpa_config do for me? configure wpa_supplicant.conf? |
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| 14:49.08 | cahoot | SRabbelier: not really sure |
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| 14:49.54 | SRabbelier | cahoot: xD, erm, about the "wlan0", I have "ath0" configured I think... is it the same kind of thing? |
| 14:50.18 | cahoot | SRabbelier: whatever name your wlanadaptor has |
| 14:50.20 | mrrcp | anyone know where a list of sites are i could block such as porno ? |
| 14:51.09 | hoxu | mrrcp, good luck with your censorship plans, it won't work |
| 14:51.18 | mrrcp | lol |
| 14:51.26 | abrotman | mrrcp: dansguardian ? |
| 14:51.27 | SRabbelier | cahoot: "ath0" is such a wlan adaptor right? (meh, I know about 'eth0', but with all these "wifi0", "ath0" and whatnot it's starting to confuse me) |
| 14:51.44 | cahoot | SRabbelier: use ath0 |
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| 14:52.58 | jess17 | How can I create a bootable dvd from a bootable cd iso file? |
| 14:53.06 | Yanomami | how can i register a NICK? |
| 14:53.20 | hoxu | Yanomami, /msg nickserv help register |
| 14:53.22 | SRabbelier | Yanomami: type "/msg nickserv help register" |
| 14:53.30 | SRabbelier | ninja-ed... :( |
| 14:53.37 | hoxu | !comfort SRabbelier |
| 14:53.37 | dpkg | There, there, SRabbelier. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 14:53.43 | Yanomami | REGISTER |
| 14:53.51 | hoxu | (_ _)' |
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| 14:54.02 | SRabbelier | Yanomami, don't forget to type "/msg nickserv" in front of all commands you want to send to nickserv |
| 14:54.22 | SRabbelier | Yanomami, either that or open a new conversation window with it, if your IRC client supports that |
| 14:55.06 | monuszko | Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia-glx on Lenny, except ... there's no nvidia-glx package ! I checked /etc/apt/sources.list , did apt-get update several times, but I still get E : no release candidate for package nvidia-glx |
| 14:55.11 | monuszko | What's wrong ? |
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| 14:55.43 | darrh00 | 请求了音乐信使会话。请单击 MM 图标接受。 |
| 14:55.59 | hoxu | monuszko, do you have non-free sources? |
| 14:56.03 | abrotman | darrh00: do you need help? |
| 14:56.09 | abrotman | !cn |
| 14:56.10 | dpkg | rumour has it, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE 渡详请读 |
| 14:56.21 | monuszko | Yes, unless I made a typo. I can't check my sources now because I'm at university. |
| 14:56.28 | Yanomami | ready |
| 14:56.33 | abrotman | monuszko: no nvidia in lenny |
| 14:56.52 | monuszko | abrotman : You're sure ? What should I do, then ? |
| 14:57.03 | monuszko | If I want to have nvidia installed ? |
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| 14:57.17 | mike1o | jess17, use a cd? |
| 14:57.26 | abrotman | monuszko: i think the current solution is to get the packages manually from sid .. not sure |
| 14:57.31 | nascentmind | hi |
| 14:57.38 | darrh00 | abrotman:what is udeb? I am make-kpkg now. |
| 14:57.43 | jess17 | mike1o, i only have dvds |
| 14:57.44 | abrotman | monuszko: or suck it up as the penalty for buying hardware from a company that hates its users :) |
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| 14:57.50 | ThoMe | gnupg: Have a message which encrypted with more as one key. (example: gpg --encrypt --armor --recipient 6F7301CB --recipient ECF59D8F bla) now i would like decrypt with a specifix private-key (all private-keys are in a ringkey-file).. how i can make it? |
| 14:58.16 | monuszko | abrotman : Or I could just reinstall kubuntu |
| 14:58.23 | nascentmind | is there any documentation oh which tree i can use. i.e. stable,unstable,etch etc? |
| 14:58.23 | mike1o | jess17, what system are u using? |
| 14:58.23 | Yanomami | ok, i am registered, thanks |
| 14:58.26 | abrotman | monuszko: or that :) |
| 14:58.30 | jess17 | mike1o, debian |
| 14:58.33 | hoxu | monuszko, I'm putting my life in line here, but you could just maybe use the nvidia installer, you could probably get it installed while the zealots here are slowly roasting me before they come after you |
| 14:58.47 | jess17 | mike1o, the new one.. lol |
| 14:59.13 | monuszko | hoxu : you mean it'd be not Debian Way ? |
| 14:59.14 | abrotman | hoxu: that's because every time X/kernel/Mesa changes . he has to reinstall the driver |
| 14:59.18 | mike1o | jess17, did u try with gnomebaker? |
| 14:59.21 | abrotman | !u |
| 14:59.21 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 14:59.31 | nascentmind | anybody? |
| 14:59.33 | hoxu | monuszko, ssshh, don't say that aloud |
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| 14:59.44 | jess17 | mike1o, no, i'll try right now |
| 14:59.54 | monuszko | Why is there no nvidia in Lenny ? Legal/ideological issues, or is Lenny just not ready ? |
| 15:00.16 | asg | nascentmind: if you have to ask, stable (currently etch) is what you need. /msg dpkg ig |
| 15:00.21 | abrotman | nascentmind: you can use any you like .. but if you're new to debian .. we'd recommend you start with etch |
| 15:00.32 | SRabbelier | imma try loggin in as root, seeing if I can get wpa_supplicant to start properly there -_-" |
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| 15:01.13 | SRabbelier | owned by gdm.... |
| 15:01.14 | nascentmind | abrotman, i would be using a lot of experimental softwares.. |
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| 15:01.43 | Yanomami | how can i run debian without GDM, i mean chagind inittab |
| 15:01.51 | Yanomami | what run level is used ? |
| 15:01.53 | asg | Yanomami: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 15:02.01 | abrotman | nascentmind: but you're new to debian? |
| 15:02.10 | nascentmind | abrotman, yes |
| 15:02.27 | nascentmind | abrotman, can i change it later? |
| 15:02.32 | jess17 | mike1o, in gnomebaker how do i make it bootable? |
| 15:02.46 | abrotman | nascentmind: stable/etch is really recommended .. lenny/testing if you have to .. if you're new, sid/unstable is asking for trouble |
| 15:02.57 | abrotman | nascentmind: you can go up .. you can't go down .. stable->testing->unstable |
| 15:03.14 | nascentmind | abrotman, oh k |
| 15:03.27 | nascentmind | abrotman, is this all documented somewhere? |
| 15:03.30 | abrotman | !ig |
| 15:03.30 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 15:03.37 | mike1o | jess17, the bootable stuff should be inside the iso already |
| 15:03.45 | abrotman | nascentmind: debian.org has *tons* of documentation |
| 15:03.46 | Yanomami | ok, but after i can run using tartx from console, right? |
| 15:03.54 | asg | Yanomami: yes |
| 15:03.57 | Yanomami | ok |
| 15:03.59 | Yanomami | thanks |
| 15:04.02 | jess17 | will it work even though its a iso9660 .. cd iso? |
| 15:04.38 | asg | SRabbelier: we've been doing it for many years |
| 15:04.40 | mike1o | jess17, You just have to burn the cd image, which is a .iso file |
| 15:05.13 | SRabbelier | asg: what does dpkg run? sqlite database? |
| 15:05.17 | jess17 | mike1o, but i can do that on a dvd even though the iso is for a cd right? |
| 15:05.28 | asg | SRabbelier: it's a blootbot. I think it's backed by mysql |
| 15:05.53 | SRabbelier | The "slowest and most bloated bot in the world"? :P |
| 15:06.04 | mike1o | jess17, Yes... the iso can be of any size... that I know of... |
| 15:06.27 | jess17 | mike1o, okay, i'll give it another shot thanks |
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| 15:07.54 | Yanomami | i have a doub, when i use this apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm |
| 15:08.15 | asg | Yanomami: why? you can always install it again if you need it |
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| 15:09.08 | SRabbelier | well... maybe it's working, time to try it out... -unplugs eth0- |
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| 15:09.38 | Yanomami | if i run apt-get remove gdm i will delete Gnome? |
| 15:09.55 | abrotman | no |
| 15:10.38 | dannys | you delete only gdm =dnome desktop manager |
| 15:10.43 | dannys | gnome |
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| 15:11.06 | SRabbelier | Wooht, my wireless is working now, thanks everybody for the help! Superb! |
| 15:11.21 | nascentmind | abrotman, what's the difference between stable and etch? |
| 15:11.32 | abrotman | nascentmind: currently nothing .. |
| 15:11.42 | abrotman | nascentmind: stable is a symlink to a release name |
| 15:11.46 | abrotman | !release history |
| 15:11.46 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06) and Etch (4.0; 2007-04-08). The next release will be Lenny. See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
| 15:12.37 | KurtKraut | Everytime I reboot my server my /etc/hostname is changed back to a previous name. Do I need to change anything else ? |
| 15:12.40 | abrotman | nascentmind: so whenever lenny releases .. it will become stable and there will be a new 'codename' for testing |
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| 15:13.05 | nascentmind | oh k. |
| 15:13.35 | giupy | anyone with a LG gsa-h22l? i use it via usb and it burns only at 3,5X ..... |
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| 15:15.18 | Servo888 | I'm a little bit confused with my googling. I want to learn how to associate a domain name (www.mydomain.com) with my server (for use /w apache). Now what should I be researching? Is BIND something I would need? |
| 15:15.55 | Ronin | Servo888: is your domain name registered? |
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| 15:15.59 | jess17 | mike1o, it didnt work |
| 15:16.00 | Servo888 | Ronin: yes |
| 15:16.19 | mike1o | jess17, :) |
| 15:16.29 | Ronin | then follow the directions on your hosters website most likely,you dont need bind |
| 15:16.40 | hoxu | Servo888, do you havea a static or a dynamic IP? |
| 15:16.45 | mike1o | jess17, then either download a DVD image or get a blank CD |
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| 15:17.09 | Servo888 | hoxu: static. It's an actual server I'm playing :-) . I figure if your going to learn, might as well use the real thing. |
| 15:17.44 | hoxu | Servo888, then you just need a simple A record from your domain pointing to the IP, how to do that depends on your DNS provider |
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| 15:18.11 | Yanomami | ok, readi |
| 15:18.15 | Yanomami | ready |
| 15:18.15 | ringo999 | how can i install skype on etch using aptitude? what sources do i have to add? |
| 15:18.17 | Servo888 | hoxu: DNS provider is the one hosting the domain name? |
| 15:18.33 | Yanomami | Abrotman: what do you think about xfce ? |
| 15:18.46 | abrotman | Yanomami: it starts with an 'x' and ends with an 'e' |
| 15:18.53 | hoxu | Servo888, it may be, or may not be |
| 15:19.09 | abrotman | Yanomami: it's fine .. |
| 15:19.14 | Yanomami | humm, what deep answer |
| 15:19.18 | Yanomami | hehe |
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| 15:19.23 | Yanomami | is very fast |
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| 15:19.32 | hoxu | Servo888, name servers can be configured from your registrar's website usually, if they don't provide free dns, then: |
| 15:19.35 | hoxu | !tell Servo888 about free dns |
| 15:19.51 | Yanomami | somebody here have a Phenom CPU ? |
| 15:19.56 | hoxu | Servo888, last two should work |
| 15:20.05 | eth01 | free dns is crap. |
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| 15:20.18 | hoxu | eth01, freedns.afraid.org or what? |
| 15:20.31 | Servo888 | ok - yah I'm hosted at godaddy, so all I have to do is type in the nameservers into a field. |
| 15:20.43 | eth01 | godaddy provide free dns hosting. |
| 15:20.50 | Odysseas | if I'm using ntfs-3g do I need ntfs support in the kernel? |
| 15:21.14 | Ronin | zoneedit.com as well |
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| 15:21.21 | Servo888 | So now how do know what nameservers to enter into the field? My server should have some sort of nameservers setup, I would imagine. |
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| 15:23.21 | achillles | hi all... how do i solve my mouse movement problem |
| 15:23.29 | Servo888 | You know - my company sent me an ip called the "resolver" that has something to do with DNS. Is this the "nameserver"? |
| 15:23.30 | achillles | when i move the cursor, the movement is very slow |
| 15:23.44 | eth01 | servo888, yes. |
| 15:24.20 | asg | achillles: try reading the xset manpage first. It will allow you to increase accel and sensitivity. |
| 15:24.26 | Servo888 | eth01: ok I think I'm understanding this. Cool :-) . We'll know for sure in 2 hours or so. |
| 15:24.51 | achillles | im using touchpad mouse on notebook |
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| 15:25.40 | asg | achillles: if that doesn't help, /msg dpkg synaptics |
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| 15:26.03 | achillles | i've googled around, only to find the same prob. as mine -- http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-handheld-25/toshiba-satellite-a215-s4757-cursor-movement-very-slow-in-debian-etch-606819/ |
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| 15:28.25 | daya | any one has idea about tux type chaging it in local language |
| 15:28.28 | fredl | hi guys, 'm trying to install php5-cli but I get php5-cli: Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.3-1+b1) but 5.2.4-2 is to be installed |
| 15:28.50 | fredl | how does one go about fixing that? |
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| 15:30.11 | fredl | I have a system that's a bit in a flux I should say, several weeks ago I changed from Sid to testing in sources.list and am waiting for the system to be completely synched with testing... |
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| 15:30.45 | fredl | I have no clue how to check if all my currently installed packages have made it into testing yet, I think. |
| 15:31.00 | Ronin | fredl: good way to royally bugger up your system |
| 15:31.16 | fredl | Ronin - well yeah but it should eventually pan out, no? |
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| 15:31.26 | abrotman | fredl: eventually .. could take months |
| 15:31.44 | fredl | unless there's packages in unstable that remain in flux so much that they never make it into testing |
| 15:31.58 | fredl | which is not very unlikely :) |
| 15:32.03 | `Abo | where can I get the latest version of debian to bur on some cds, not dvds? |
| 15:32.04 | Ronin | eventually but you could be in for a long wait |
| 15:32.11 | Ronin | `Abo: www.debian.org |
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| 15:32.33 | fredl | Ronin - well that's the only way I can think of to go back from unstable to testing short of reinstalling. |
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| 15:32.34 | stew | fredl: apt-show-versions might help |
| 15:32.35 | abrotman | fredl: vlc for one |
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| 15:33.03 | `Abo | Ronin, how many cds I have to get |
| 15:33.11 | dresstein | hello everybody |
| 15:33.12 | fredl | apt-show-versions... hmm, never heaqrd of that one yet. which pkg is that in, same name? |
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| 15:33.33 | stew | fredl: its in a package named apt-show-versions |
| 15:33.36 | `Abo | wtf, there are 20 cds there |
| 15:33.41 | `Abo | isos |
| 15:33.51 | abrotman | yes |
| 15:33.52 | dresstein | I am trying to set up a RAID 5 with 3 disks, but only 2 is up, the last is set as spare |
| 15:33.56 | fredl | oh that's very cool stew, gracias! |
| 15:34.04 | Ronin | `Abo: yep, but you only need disk 1 or even the mini cd to get an install then you use the net to get the rest |
| 15:34.06 | dresstein | how do I solve that problem and get the RAID to start building? |
| 15:34.07 | abrotman | dresstein: that doesn't sound like raid5 |
| 15:34.19 | `Abo | Ronin, which one should I get and burn? cd1? |
| 15:34.25 | fredl | LOL, still 172 pkgs that are newer than the one in the repository. |
| 15:34.34 | `Abo | Ronin, should be ok with this? http://ftp.ro.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r1-i386-CD-1.iso |
| 15:34.39 | fredl | not good.... |
| 15:34.57 | dresstein | abrotman: I would like to use 3 500GB disks as one 1 TB disk, having redundancy in my data... |
| 15:35.12 | abrotman | right ... so use raid5 |
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| 15:36.08 | dresstein | yes, but when I declare, that it should use the 3 disks, only two is set to state up, the last one is set as spare, and the raid will then not start... |
| 15:36.35 | dresstein | I can not find out how to delete the raid and start over or how to set the last disk as up instead of spare... |
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| 15:36.53 | fredl | so stew.... that's a handy tool that apt-show-versions... did anybody ever think of cooking up something that downgrades those packages that are newer than the repository to the ones that are in the repository or would that really thoroughly fuck up the system? |
| 15:37.04 | abrotman | dresstein: read the raid controller documentation |
| 15:37.16 | fengor | does anyone have the backports url for sauerbraten? |
| 15:37.40 | fredl | I mean I could think of at least a dozen way that would make such a downgrade really hard to do... |
| 15:37.50 | abrotman | fengor: isn't that a game? |
| 15:38.01 | dresstein | abrotman: I have had one of my friends, who him self has a raid 5, to help me, but he could not figure it out either |
| 15:38.02 | abrotman | fengor: /msg dpkg simple sid backport ? |
| 15:38.13 | abrotman | dresstein: you sure it supports raid5? |
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| 15:38.28 | dresstein | yes, I use the same controller, as he does |
| 15:38.48 | fredl | isn't there some apt-get downgrade <pkg> ? :) |
| 15:39.02 | abrotman | no |
| 15:39.03 | dresstein | but it is not hardware-raid; it is the gnu-raid, I would like to use |
| 15:39.13 | stew | fredl: i'm sure preople have thought about thought about it, but many packages don't support downgraing. /msg dpkg partial downgrade |
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| 15:39.45 | ViRaveNuS | hi! who know how to use the gcc-4.1 driver for nvidia instalation becose i have gcc-4.1 installed gcc-4.2 installed and if i want to dezinstall the gcc-4.2 he removes everithing...... |
| 15:40.23 | abrotman | ViRaveNuS: in etch? |
| 15:40.27 | ViRaveNuS | yes |
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| 15:41.31 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
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| 15:41.31 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. |
| 15:41.31 | ViRaveNuS | my english is bad ?:)) |
| 15:41.38 | fredl | well out of 1305 installed pkgs, only 172 are newer than that in the repo... |
| 15:41.45 | stew | probably not etch anymore |
| 15:41.49 | piroko | What's the best way to resolve a locked soundcard in debian? I'm getting device busy errors... |
| 15:42.02 | fredl | that's not SO bad. just has to be such that PHP is one of them. |
| 15:42.06 | dresstein | when i run watch cat /proc/mdstat all 3 disks show up |
| 15:42.10 | cahoot | piroko: fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* |
| 15:42.41 | dresstein | but when i try to delete the disk set as spare from the raid, it get the reply No such device... |
| 15:43.06 | piroko | cahoot: Hmm... /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory I tried rmmodding some modules. That's probably the trouble now |
| 15:43.40 | `Abo | anyone who can tell me which CD I have to get to install debian |
| 15:43.46 | `Abo | http://ftp.ro.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 15:43.48 | abrotman | !d-i `Abo |
| 15:43.48 | dpkg | `Abo, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the 4.0r0 installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:43.59 | asg | `Abo: and /msg dpkg ig |
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| 15:45.15 | cahoot | piroko: removing modules won't help an occupied device |
| 15:45.22 | piroko | cahoot: Well it turns out that it was dbus-launch and dbus-daemon. How dumb. Killing that and re-running alsaconf seems to have fixed it |
| 15:45.29 | roe | anyone else having issues lightning and icedove? My calendar view isn't rendering properly |
| 15:45.42 | dto | I need some basic security advice, even if it leads to flames :-) ok, i'm going to set up a small no-ip server in my home. how safe is it if I only forward one odd port and only run (for example) subversion and apache? it's basically a small public web+svn server that would not be used for anything else. |
| 15:45.49 | `Abo | abrotman, yes but from this list http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/bt-cd/, do I need them all |
| 15:45.53 | dto | an old pentium 3 |
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| 15:46.13 | abrotman | `Abo: you hsave broadband right? |
| 15:46.21 | fredl | hmm something is fubar with my apt-get autoremove too... |
| 15:46.30 | piroko | How about problems with iceweasel and loading certain pages? My browser just crashes on several, including the wikipedia article on the NES system |
| 15:46.33 | fredl | it wants to remove 111 pkgs for some reason. |
| 15:46.48 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/i386/bt-cd/debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.torrent |
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| 15:49.07 | techouse | hey guys |
| 15:49.09 | ViRaveNuS | the cc version differs :(( |
| 15:49.36 | `Abo | abrotman ok ty |
| 15:49.41 | techouse | can anyone help me with setting up a bootsplash in debian? |
| 15:50.06 | asg | techouse: /msg dpkg bootsplash |
| 15:51.34 | ViRaveNuS | can someone tell me why the nvidia driver tells me that is a problem with the cc version becose i have 3 days "fighting" with nvidia |
| 15:52.01 | techouse | asg: isn't there also a method that doesn't involve compiling your own kernel? |
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| 15:52.48 | asg | techouse: the 'splashy' package maybe. |
| 15:52.54 | ringo999 | hi im trying to get the mic on my laptop to work, what to do and how to test? |
| 15:53.15 | techouse | asg: yeah...that one; shit i have to get it from unstable :P |
| 15:53.21 | ViRaveNuS | a conference ringo999 |
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| 15:53.37 | ViRaveNuS | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.56 | xand | not without more details |
| 15:54.00 | xand | and no need to repeat |
| 15:54.04 | ringo999 | ViRaveNuS: mmmm... my sound out works, how can i see if my mic is supported? |
| 15:54.05 | abrotman | ViRaveNuS: how are you trying ot install it? |
| 15:54.06 | ViRaveNuS | :)) ok ok sry |
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| 15:54.45 | ViRaveNuS | well i am from romania and i fallow this http://www.myl.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=4988 |
| 15:55.27 | abrotman | !tell ViRaveNuS about nvidia one-liner |
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| 15:55.36 | ViRaveNuS | whe i type ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run it tells me that the cc version is having a problem or something |
| 15:55.41 | abrotman | ViRaveNuS: don't use tha tmethod |
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| 15:56.16 | mike1o | ViRaveNuS, gcc -v |
| 15:56.25 | abrotman | DO NOT USE THAT |
| 15:56.34 | ViRaveNuS | gcc version 4.2.3 |
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| 15:56.54 | ViRaveNuS | is not good that method |
| 15:56.54 | ViRaveNuS | ? |
| 15:57.02 | abrotman | i just said no |
| 15:57.05 | abrotman | !Nvidia one-liner |
| 15:57.05 | dpkg | from memory, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. |
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| 15:57.13 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:57.24 | abrotman | that's all you need (assuming you have non-free/contrib sources) |
| 15:58.02 | ViRaveNuS | ok thanx let me see thanx again |
| 15:59.12 | abrotman | and if you need to get contrib/non-free sources .. ask in this channel and someone will help you |
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| 15:59.20 | ViRaveNuS | well this is another one X( |
| 15:59.21 | ViRaveNuS | nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-100.14.19 but it is not installable |
| 15:59.21 | ViRaveNuS | E: Broken packages |
| 15:59.27 | abrotman | !contrib |
| 15:59.27 | dpkg | well, contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free) To get packages in contrib, the lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free> |
| 15:59.29 | abrotman | !non-free |
| 15:59.29 | dpkg | i heard non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 16:05.40 | ViRaveNuS | i have been installed nvidia-kernel-486 and nvidia-setings but nvidia-glx is crashing :(( failed dependencies |
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| 16:05.52 | achillles | i've tried synaptic but it comes out synaptic package manager, not synaptic touchpad configuration :[ |
| 16:06.23 | xsdg | achillles: I have no context, but `apt-cache search xorg synaptic` |
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| 16:07.01 | piroko | Wow. I wonder how vi-config got his irc client to notify when his computer goes to sleep |
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| 16:07.49 | Gnurdux | i think for some clients its just the default quit message |
| 16:07.58 | piroko | Ah ok |
| 16:09.34 | ViRaveNuS | for 3 days i tri to install the nvidia driver and i can't getit with those errors....failed dependencies and cc version error :(( |
| 16:09.40 | achillles | xsdg: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is already the newest version |
| 16:09.45 | achillles | how can i configure it |
| 16:09.57 | xsdg | achillles: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-synaptics? |
| 16:10.01 | achillles | it seems painful to drag the touchpad |
| 16:10.06 | xsdg | achillles: other than that, mess with your xorg.conf |
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| 16:12.12 | xsdg | achillles: `apt-cache show xserver...synaptics` suggests that you want ot look at synclient/syndaemon |
| 16:12.22 | achillles | here is my xorg.conf -- http://www.pastebin.ca/818841 |
| 16:12.31 | achillles | i see synaptic is there |
| 16:12.54 | joano | ViRaveNuS, adjust the simbolic link /usr/bin/gcc to the version required by package |
| 16:12.56 | achillles | but about the configuration, how can i make it move faster |
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| 16:15.56 | odysseas | I'm trying to get my tv-tuner sound to work, I got saa7134-oss module loaded and I type: sox -c 2 -s -w -r 32000 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp1 -t ossdsp -w -r 32000 /dev/dsp, but I get this error: sox soxio: Failed reading `/dev/dsp1': unknown file type `ossdsp' , what am I doing wrong? |
| 16:17.59 | karmatronic | odysseas: for watching TV with sound ? |
| 16:18.12 | odysseas | yeah |
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| 16:18.33 | wols | why do you need sox to get sound? |
| 16:18.34 | karmatronic | odysseas:dont use saa7134-oss |
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| 16:19.13 | karmatronic | odysseas: try to modprobe saa7134 tuner=x |
| 16:19.27 | karmatronic | probing with x until you have sound |
| 16:19.43 | odysseas | karmatronic: sound isnt working without saa7134_alsa or saa7134_oss |
| 16:19.57 | odysseas | the module registers the right tuner I checked in dmesg |
| 16:20.09 | karmatronic | odysseas: because the default tuner option passed to saa7134 is not the good one |
| 16:20.24 | wols | odysseas: then why do you use oss and not alsa? |
| 16:20.32 | odysseas | well it is the tuner I have :S |
| 16:20.46 | odysseas | wols: I was trying with alsa but it wasnt working so I tried oss |
| 16:20.47 | karmatronic | odysseas: well i had that TV card and had it working without saa7134-alsa or oss |
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| 16:21.24 | karmatronic | odysseas: try to modprobe saa7134 tuner=x. i bet x<10 ! |
| 16:21.26 | achillles | anyone can help on this |
| 16:21.37 | alecssys | can someone please help me install my nvidia video card and compiz ? or at least give a link to a known good tutorial ? |
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| 16:22.05 | karmatronic | alecssys: either download the script from their website |
| 16:22.09 | karmatronic | alecssys: or !m-a |
| 16:22.20 | karmatronic | !m-a |
| 16:22.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or aptitude install module-assistant build-essential && m-a prepare |
| 16:22.30 | alecssys | i tried bot hand it doesn't wprk for some reason |
| 16:22.40 | wols | !tell alecssys about nvidia_post_etch |
| 16:22.43 | alecssys | on their site i can't find my model |
| 16:22.55 | alecssys | and m-a fails to do it |
| 16:22.56 | wols | alecssys: we don't support nvidia.com drivers. |
| 16:22.57 | karmatronic | alecssys: amd ? intel / 32? 64? |
| 16:23.02 | wols | alecssys: what which do you have? |
| 16:23.20 | wols | karmatronic: what has the cpu to do with it? |
| 16:23.40 | alecssys | amd turion 62 |
| 16:23.44 | karmatronic | wols: i m drunk :) |
| 16:23.46 | giupy | do you know problems with dvd burner lg gsa-h22l and linux ? |
| 16:23.53 | odysseas | karmatronic: saa7133[0]: subsystem: 11bd:002f, board: Pinnacle PCTV 310i [card=101,autodetected] from dmesg, its the same tuner as the one it registers without the tuner= parameter and its the tuner I have but still no sound :S |
| 16:23.54 | alecssys | *64 |
| 16:24.14 | alecssys | with a geforce go 6100 |
| 16:24.30 | karmatronic | odysseas: i insist .Try my solutipn.it will work |
| 16:24.33 | wols | alecssys: what debian branch? |
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| 16:24.44 | alecssys | etch |
| 16:24.51 | alecssys | with unstable mirror list |
| 16:24.58 | wols | then you probably need a sid backport of the nvidia drivers |
| 16:25.17 | wols | alecssys: dpkg -l libc6 |tail -1 |
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| 16:25.28 | wols | what version does it give you? |
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| 16:25.37 | alecssys | 2.7-4 |
| 16:25.38 | wols | you cannot have etch with a "unstable mirror list" |
| 16:25.43 | wols | that is sid. not etch |
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| 16:26.01 | alecssys | i installed etch and i modified the mirror list |
| 16:26.07 | Nyle | what is sid |
| 16:26.13 | Nyle | oh I mean |
| 16:26.22 | Nyle | ugh brainfart |
| 16:26.41 | Nyle | now I can't remember what I was gonna ask |
| 16:26.46 | wols | alecssys: you run sid, end of story. if you run a mixed etch/sid system, then you should be doubly shot. |
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| 16:27.02 | Nyle | wols: throw in some experimental packages |
| 16:27.06 | alecssys | ok .. i run sid |
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| 16:27.11 | nixnewbie | quick question. I am on debian etch have set the ANT_HOME variable several times but every time I close the ssh session and reopen it I have to export ANT_HOME=/usr/local/ant, export PATH=${PATH}:${ANT_HOME}/bin . How can I set the path variable without having to doing it again each time I create a new ssh session? |
| 16:27.19 | wols | Nyle: that's for a triple shooting |
| 16:27.22 | hoxu | cmd: give it to (.*?) softly |
| 16:27.27 | hoxu | err |
| 16:27.38 | wols | nixnewbie: put it into a script/config file |
| 16:27.39 | hoxu | Nyle, so, can I join your brainfart club? |
| 16:27.42 | alecssys | so wols what should i do ? |
| 16:28.01 | Nyle | hoxu: hey whats your deal man |
| 16:28.08 | stew | nixnewbie: why did you install ant to /usr/local/ant instead of installing it with apt? |
| 16:28.11 | Nyle | hoxu: why have you been giving me shit for few days |
| 16:28.22 | asg | nixnewbie: read the INVOCATION section of your shell's manpage |
| 16:28.26 | wols | !tell alecssys about nvidia_post_etch |
| 16:28.29 | Nyle | hi stew |
| 16:28.36 | alecssys | wols: i just did that |
| 16:28.38 | alecssys | and it fails |
| 16:28.45 | wols | !tell alecssys about errors |
| 16:28.57 | hoxu | ? |
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| 16:29.07 | alecssys | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.07 | alecssys | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.14 | alecssys | wanna see the whole log ? |
| 16:29.25 | nixnewbie | stew: I followed the installation instructions from the ant home page. I was not aware that it could be installed from apt |
| 16:29.31 | wols | yes. use a pastebin however |
| 16:29.33 | karmatronic | odysseas: so ? |
| 16:29.40 | stew | nixnewbie: aptitude install ant |
| 16:29.46 | Nyle | nixnewbie: next time you come across a software, search to see if its been packagekd for debian yet |
| 16:29.59 | Nyle | nixnewbie: the chances are, it probably is |
| 16:30.08 | Nyle | if not, you could package it too :) |
| 16:30.21 | Nyle | s/is/has |
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| 16:31.41 | naxxtor | right - apparently i've been going about this the wrong way <_< |
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| 16:31.58 | alecssys | wols http://www.pastebin.ca/818861 |
| 16:32.02 | nixnewbie | thanks.. I wish I had searched for the ant package first because it was a bit of a pita to setup manually |
| 16:32.06 | naxxtor | i'm trying to get FreeNX working on a VM |
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| 16:33.01 | nixnewbie | I try to stick with apt as much as possible because it makes installation and updating much easier |
| 16:33.13 | Nyle | of course |
| 16:33.17 | hoxu | Nyle, that wasn't personal insult or anything btw, just noting what I did up there |
| 16:33.19 | Nyle | thats why debian kicks so much ass |
| 16:33.55 | Nyle | well, not only that, but thats one of he major reasons for it being able to kick so much ass |
| 16:34.06 | nixnewbie | I found some really nice debian resources here |
| 16:34.09 | nixnewbie | http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/Main_Page#Range_of_SERVICEs.2C_and_INSTALLATION_HOW-To.27s |
| 16:34.27 | Nyle | you know the best documentation is found on debian.org |
| 16:34.29 | Nyle | imo |
| 16:34.38 | Nyle | and doc packages |
| 16:35.16 | wols | alecssys: seems you create 32bit driver for a 64bit kernel with m-a? |
| 16:35.41 | Nyle | nixnewbie: how old have you been using debian |
| 16:36.11 | nixnewbie | about a week |
| 16:36.37 | alecssys | wols: and how do i create a 64 one ? |
| 16:36.58 | nixnewbie | I had an old fc4 server that really needed an os upgrade and after some reasearch I decided on debian etch |
| 16:37.19 | Nyle | good decision |
| 16:38.08 | wols | alecssys: it should do it by default |
| 16:38.38 | nixnewbie | so what would be the best method for searching for packages? |
| 16:39.02 | wols | !tell nixnewbie about search |
| 16:39.12 | alecssys | you mean with m-a auto-install nvidia ? |
| 16:39.36 | nixnewbie | wols: thanks |
| 16:39.40 | alecssys | because this is what i did so far |
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| 16:41.26 | karmatronic | hey , apart from nautilus, which other file managers are there ? |
| 16:41.45 | petemc | konqueror, gentoo |
| 16:41.52 | petemc | xfce has one too, i think |
| 16:41.59 | as_ | hello everybody |
| 16:42.29 | as_ | what is the best irc-client to recommend for debian? |
| 16:42.33 | karmatronic | petemc: conky doesnt work well aith conky , that s a shame |
| 16:42.40 | piroko | as_: xchat for gui, irssi for console |
| 16:42.40 | karmatronic | as_: irssi or xchat |
| 16:43.09 | as_ | thank you! I use chatzilla, but I am not quite happy. |
| 16:43.42 | piroko | petemc: It's thunar |
| 16:43.53 | piroko | karmatronic: Thunar is a very nice light file manager |
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| 16:44.31 | karmatronic | piroko: thanx , i m lookin at it right now |
| 16:44.37 | piroko | karmatronic: np |
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| 16:47.05 | karmatronic | piroko: i m gonna stick to nautilus and try to solve the conky prob :) |
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| 16:48.19 | alem | how to restart all service on one server? |
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| 16:48.50 | petemc | as_: /etc/init.d/foo restart |
| 16:48.54 | petemc | alem: ^^ |
| 16:49.21 | alem | petemc: this command restart all service?! |
| 16:50.05 | petemc | alem: no, there is no command to do that, unless you want to start messing with init, or reboot.. |
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| 16:50.23 | techouse | yay...splashy up & running! :D |
| 16:50.57 | piroko | techouse: What are bootsplashes good for when you never have to reboot? ;) |
| 16:51.02 | alem | petemc: i want restart all services without rebooting my server |
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| 16:51.17 | techouse | to get you in the mood when the system already boots up |
| 16:51.18 | techouse | :D |
| 16:51.40 | piroko | alem: telinit 1;telinit 2 |
| 16:51.45 | piroko | techouse: Haha |
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| 16:52.50 | techouse | piroko: well to tell you the truth i just installed it to counter Windows :D |
| 16:53.21 | alem | piroko: thx |
| 16:53.25 | alem | petemc: thx |
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| 16:55.12 | as_ | Excuse me, I am a beginner. How can I remove ChatZilla from my system (apt-get remove chatzilla doesn't work)?) |
| 16:56.24 | piroko | as_: apt-get remove mozilla-chatzilla |
| 16:56.41 | piroko | as_: In the future, you can search for the names of packages with apt-cache search <package name> |
| 16:56.50 | as_ | damn! yes |
| 16:56.54 | as_ | ;-) |
| 16:57.10 | as_ | ah ok, thank you |
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| 16:57.52 | techouse | isn't chatzilla a part of mozilla? you could also remove it in the addons directly from mozilla |
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| 16:59.00 | as_ | don't know, prioko's advise worked well |
| 16:59.49 | piroko | techouse: Right, but if he added it via apt-get, it should be removed that way to avoid reinstallation when it's updated |
| 17:00.42 | techouse | true |
| 17:00.51 | as_ | techouse: Now I understand. No, I didn't use chatzilla as addon |
| 17:01.04 | techouse | aha |
| 17:01.04 | as_ | It's also standalone available |
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| 17:01.25 | techouse | i never use apt for mozilla addons |
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| 17:01.44 | techouse | i still gotta fixup the java plugins for forefox |
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| 17:01.56 | piroko | techouse: Did you install them via apt? |
| 17:02.00 | techouse | no |
| 17:02.13 | piroko | techouse: Because there are packages that make it easy :) |
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| 17:02.19 | techouse | i mada a java 6u3 deb from .run via fakeroot |
| 17:02.49 | piroko | techouse: Alright. Whatever works best for you |
| 17:02.51 | wols | techouse: make-jpkg? |
| 17:03.10 | techouse | wols: ofc |
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| 17:03.42 | louisa | Hi. I am having troubles building a kernel module. Here is the message error : http://wiki.dataflow.ws/pastebin3 :: It seems like I have missing libraries. Might be that simple |
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| 17:04.11 | wols | !tell louisa about b-e |
| 17:04.19 | warlock | does anyone know how to create a .tar.gz file? I want to zip down a dir |
| 17:04.32 | piroko | warlock: tar cfzv <tar.gz file> <directory path> |
| 17:04.40 | warlock | thanks |
| 17:05.45 | NiLon | warlock have you saw die hard 4.0? :D |
| 17:05.53 | warlock | No |
| 17:05.56 | warlock | or, yes I have |
| 17:06.09 | NiLon | or actually is it see? but anyway |
| 17:06.17 | warlock | And no is the answer to your next question :) |
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| 17:06.25 | louisa | wols, thanks a lot. Very stupid, but I didn't install it, even if I thought I did |
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| 17:06.53 | NiLon | warlock yeah well in that movie there's nerd called warlock heh :p |
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| 17:07.15 | warlock | That didn't work as expected piroko |
| 17:07.25 | piroko | warlock: What happened? |
| 17:07.34 | warlock | I did: tar cfzv tar.gz thefilenameiwantittobe /path/to/the/dir/i/want/to/save/it |
| 17:07.43 | warlock | I bet its the wrong syntax |
| 17:07.46 | ViRaveNuS | i can't install nvidia-glx X( The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 17:07.46 | ViRaveNuS | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.00 | neotic | warlock: it's the wrong syntax yes |
| 17:08.01 | piroko | warlock: Yeah. When I said <.tar.gz file> that should be <thefilenameyouwantittobe> |
| 17:08.14 | piroko | warlock: Sorry, confusing on my part |
| 17:08.25 | warlock | so: tar cfzv filename.tar.gz /path/to/save/dir ? |
| 17:08.30 | piroko | warlock: Yes |
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| 17:08.40 | warlock | and I do this in the dir i want to zip down uh? |
| 17:08.40 | piroko | warlock: Next time I'll word it that way to avoid confusion :) |
| 17:08.55 | warlock | np |
| 17:09.15 | piroko | warlock: Do it one level up for best results |
| 17:09.34 | piroko | warlock: So tar cfzv file.tar.gz dirwithfilesandstuffinit/ |
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| 17:10.35 | fredl | hmm somebody please resolve ftp.nl.debian.org for me? |
| 17:10.48 | piroko | fredl: 130.89.175.33 |
| 17:11.03 | fredl | gracia! |
| 17:11.05 | fredl | s |
| 17:11.07 | piroko | fredl: de nada! |
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| 17:19.53 | HardDisk_WP | does anyone here have experiences with arpspoof and dsniff? |
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| 17:22.09 | hoxu | !ask |
| 17:22.09 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 17:23.39 | elmo40 | wols: is it sunday already? :-/ |
| 17:23.52 | piroko | :( |
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| 17:26.40 | fredl_ | Is there a way to install a .deb when coreutils is removed? |
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| 17:27.22 | fredl_ | I mean, dpkg doesn't work anymore but can't a .deb be installed with cpio and some stuff? |
| 17:27.22 | wols | you might be able to do it in the debocnif pre or post rmeoval scripts |
| 17:27.29 | wols | but why wouls anyone remove coreutils? |
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| 17:27.43 | fredl_ | because I'm downgrading from unstable to testing |
| 17:27.59 | fredl_ | so I removed it with --force-remove-essential --force-depends |
| 17:28.04 | pablo | hi, i connected a joystuck to the usb port, do i need to install something in order to use it? |
| 17:28.07 | wols | you don't remove. your force install the older version |
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| 17:28.24 | fredl_ | I have the .deb here but need to somehow install it |
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| 17:28.37 | elmo40 | wols: remember that one kid a while back 'what is the script to remove everything but the base of debian? i want a clean system'...'i know you can do it in bsd' :P Some people remove the most odd parts. |
| 17:28.37 | deadlyninja | i have a buggy package installed (samba for arm/xscale arch) how can i downgrade just that single package from testing to stable? |
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| 17:28.57 | wols | elmo40: some people are fucking stupif |
| 17:28.59 | wols | *stupid |
| 17:29.12 | elmo40 | ya, i know. hence perpetual sundays. |
| 17:29.15 | nixnewbie | how would I permanently set a path variable. I used export PATH=${PATH}:/opt/jruby/bin but I think(not sure) that it is only for my current session. |
| 17:29.18 | fredl_ | so is there a way to install it? |
| 17:29.26 | elmo40 | pablo: if you type lsusb, does it show? |
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| 17:29.33 | wols | nixnewbie: yes. you edit your bash script(s) |
| 17:29.39 | wols | nixnewbie: one of them sets paths already |
| 17:30.13 | wols | pablo: use the joystick for what? |
| 17:30.29 | fredl_ | wols - isn't a .deb a cpio archive? |
| 17:30.40 | wols | fredl_: it is |
| 17:30.44 | pablo | elmo40: it shows all the usb ports |
| 17:30.45 | nixnewbie | you mean .profile and .bash_profile, correct? |
| 17:30.50 | wols | fredl_: with 2 tars inside IIRC |
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| 17:31.10 | pablo | wols: same as keybord, just want to know if it recognices it |
| 17:31.16 | wols | nixnewbie: yes but I never can remember which of tha gazillion bash files does what and when |
| 17:31.27 | bliss_ | there is one ip address i want to disallow from connecting to my mail server do i just place this ip in the hostd deny file? |
| 17:31.34 | wols | pablo: do you have /dev/jsX ? |
| 17:31.38 | elmo40 | pablo: but it does not work in a game? Maybe you need to load the module. Have you tried to google 'debian joystick<model> use' ? |
| 17:32.12 | wols | bliss_: should be anough |
| 17:32.14 | wols | or use iptables |
| 17:32.22 | pablo | elmo40: i tried lsusb as root now and it appears there |
| 17:32.26 | elmo40 | nixnewbie: you can add that line in your .bashrc file (for each user) |
| 17:32.35 | fredl_ | hmm cpio -i < coreutils.deb doesn't work.. |
| 17:32.35 | saschahl | pablo: if you have a /dev/input/jsX or /dev/jsX, the joystick is recognized by the kernel. It's then up to you or the application to use it |
| 17:32.51 | nixnewbie | ah.. thanks elmo40 |
| 17:33.07 | bliss_ | wols: ok thanks |
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| 17:33.15 | elmo40 | or, rather, in the /etc/skel/.bashrc (i dont know if that is only read when creating a new user) |
| 17:33.17 | wols | elmo40: are you sure it's .bashrc? |
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| 17:33.25 | fredl_ | wols - you know how to unpack the deb with cpio? |
| 17:33.34 | wols | fredl_: no. man cpio ? |
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| 17:33.49 | urv | fredl_: try ar x <filename> |
| 17:34.12 | pablo | saschahl: yeah i have /dev/js0 |
| 17:34.37 | pablo | saschahl: and when i did cat and press a buton it brote something so it should be working ok right? |
| 17:34.54 | wols | elmo40: why did you say .bashrc? |
| 17:34.59 | urv | fredl_: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html#s-unpackphase is what dpkg does - you could try it manually |
| 17:35.09 | saschahl | pablo: yes |
| 17:35.21 | fredl_ | ar, that's it. |
| 17:35.41 | pablo | saschahl: thanks |
| 17:35.45 | pablo | wols: thx |
| 17:35.47 | fredl_ | well I'm kinda limited in what I do right now urv :) system without coreutils doesn't function so well, LOL |
| 17:35.54 | pablo | elmo40: thx |
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| 17:36.56 | deadlyninja | if someone wants to upgrade to to unstable, should he have stable, testing, and unstable sources or just unstable sources? |
| 17:37.15 | wols | deadlyninja: only unstable |
| 17:37.31 | wols | but in reality you should have stable sources only when you have to ask |
| 17:38.12 | deadlyninja | i was looking at a tutorial and they have both testing and unstable sources in their apt.conf |
| 17:38.22 | deadlyninja | and they can apparently pick which package is used |
| 17:38.28 | deadlyninja | testing or unstable |
| 17:38.30 | wols | !bobbitt |
| 17:38.30 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody (...sarge, etch), you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge, Etch, and any other debian system, "debian based distro", or the fire that is <rpm>, <alien>, etc. |
| 17:38.48 | karmatronic | :) |
| 17:39.37 | deadlyninja | so if i want the stable samba and testing of everything else, i cant do that? |
| 17:39.49 | deadlyninja | or i *shouldnt* do that? |
| 17:40.04 | wols | you can do it, you can do a lot of things you shouldn't do |
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| 17:40.27 | deadlyninja | the testing release of samba is broken on my arch, what am i supposed to do? |
| 17:40.31 | deadlyninja | what is the correct action to take |
| 17:40.31 | urv | fredl_: have you tried downgrading by pinning? |
| 17:40.34 | wols | a partial downgrade sorta isn't a bad thing usually. |
| 17:40.44 | wols | deadlyninja: file a bug |
| 17:40.54 | urv | fredl_: man apt_preferences |
| 17:41.00 | wols | or install the etch version, or do a sid backport |
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| 17:41.24 | fredl | what was that URL again urv? |
| 17:41.35 | urv | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html#s-unpackphase |
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| 17:41.50 | fredl | tnx |
| 17:42.14 | deadlyninja | wols, how can i install the etch version from lenny? |
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| 17:42.58 | wols | !tell deadlyninja about pinning |
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| 17:43.51 | TheViral | wols: Do you know what could cause my dhcp to to get and DHCPrequesets? or whatever the one is from the AP |
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| 17:44.08 | TheViral | wols: only on my linux, I can't connect to my AP |
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| 17:44.54 | bliss_ | wols: so just place the ip address in the host.deny file thats it? |
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| 17:45.08 | wols | bliss_: might need to restart the MTA |
| 17:45.11 | wols | not sure |
| 17:45.12 | TheViral | wols: it's the DHCPOFFER I'm not recieving |
| 17:45.15 | sirini | r |
| 17:45.17 | sirini | re |
| 17:45.27 | bliss_ | wols: ok no harm in that |
| 17:45.32 | wols | TheViral: does static IPs work? |
| 17:45.44 | wally | hi! I have some mathlab libraries in glnx86 dir that are used by something called tracegraph, if I move glnx86 to /usr/lib and try running xgraph it complains that it can find library file, I can see that file under /usr/lib/glnx86, how do I tell the system to look for libraries in /usr/lib/glnx86 ? |
| 17:45.45 | sirini | heya! s.o. can help me with xserver-prob? |
| 17:45.45 | TheViral | wols: I don't think so, didn't work last time I tried |
| 17:45.47 | deadlyninja | wols, thanks |
| 17:45.56 | cusco | maybe the encryption key isn't right TheViral |
| 17:46.05 | wols | TheViral: then your wlan install is borked for some reson |
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| 17:46.08 | cusco | or maybe the mac address aint on the aproved list |
| 17:46.24 | TheViral | cusco: I tried it many times, it just can't be wrong now |
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| 17:46.38 | cusco | TheViral: is it wep or wpa? |
| 17:46.43 | TheViral | wols: I tried hibernate for the first time and now it's acting funny |
| 17:46.48 | TheViral | cusco: WEP |
| 17:47.00 | cusco | TheViral: have you set it in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 17:47.12 | TheViral | wols: Should I redo my wireless? |
| 17:47.19 | TheViral | cusco: one sec |
| 17:47.42 | wols | TheViral: no you should troubleshoot and debug it |
| 17:47.47 | cusco | TheViral: try and follow this example: http://cusco.tretas.eu/linux/etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:48.02 | sirini | hm ... how should i go on to make my xserver work? installed x-window-system packs, fluxbox, kde, configured xorg to vga-drivers, installed xdm as windowmanager. startx failes. |
| 17:48.31 | gravity | sirini: Could you upload your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to somewhere that we can look at it? |
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| 17:49.07 | sirini | hm ...copy&paste with the shell? gravity |
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| 17:49.26 | sirini | to pastebin mb, if it's possible. |
| 17:49.28 | TheViral | cusco, wols: See the odd thing is, I'm using my wireless right now, just on someone else's...and it only works sometimes and after I type dhclient |
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| 17:49.51 | gravity | sirini: Yeah, pastebin is good, or to anywhere that we could download it easily |
| 17:49.51 | TheViral | cusco, wols: and I mean, wireless on my laptop and someone else's AP |
| 17:49.54 | sirini | or upload to somewhere.. hmm don't own an ftp. |
| 17:50.00 | cusco | TheViral: so you're connected to an AP that is not yours? |
| 17:50.12 | TheViral | cusco: yes |
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| 17:50.56 | sirini | gravity: how do i copy text in shell? (only know how to paste it... ;) |
| 17:50.56 | cusco | TheViral: then it might be the wep key misspelled |
| 17:50.56 | cusco | or the mac address not on the "allowed" list |
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| 17:51.14 | gravity | sirini: I'm not sure, let me see if I can find out |
| 17:51.18 | cusco | TheViral: try and remove encryption from your ap and client for a sec |
| 17:51.39 | TheViral | ok, hold on, I'm gonna go plug into it |
| 17:51.43 | sirini | though my "Ctrl+Alt+F-tasta" doesn't work, so i have to leave then. i will wait until you find out gravity, would be great! =) |
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| 17:52.35 | gravity | sirini: You should look while I do. |
| 17:52.40 | gravity | sirini: I'm not sure I'll find it |
| 17:53.20 | sirini | ok.. maybe i can copy the file to an ftp, if i remember the pwd for it |
| 17:53.47 | sirini | so i'll be back in a few minutes. :) |
| 17:54.11 | dutchfish | is firebug not in repos? or has it just another name like iceweasel? |
| 17:54.48 | fredl | there that wasn't so hard... just ar x coreutils..., then untar data.tar.gz in / |
| 17:54.57 | fredl | and then dpkg -i coreutils*deb |
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| 17:55.50 | daya | what pkg shoudl I install , for itconfigure: error: *** SDL_image library not found! |
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| 17:56.50 | TheViral_ | ok |
| 17:56.52 | cyrill62 | Hi Gerrit Pape is here? |
| 17:57.03 | TheViral_ | disabled WEP |
| 17:57.05 | TheViral_ | brb though |
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| 17:57.37 | urv | daya: try "aptitude search ..." to find aut |
| 17:57.45 | urv | out |
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| 17:58.16 | daya | urv, yes it shows a lot, can't indetify which is particularly It seeks |
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| 17:58.29 | TurboBee | I like sid, it looks nicer :D |
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| 17:58.42 | urv | daya: pipe to output to grep |
| 17:58.51 | urv | daya: aptitude search sdl | grep library |
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| 17:58.59 | urv | daya: aptitude search sdl | grep image |
| 17:59.55 | daya | urv, ok |
| 18:00.06 | amphi | daya: | grep -dev |
| 18:00.06 | gravity | erm, he left |
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| 18:00.48 | Nicknamed | find . -type f -type d -not -name backup.iso | xargs /bin/rm -f |
| 18:00.51 | Nicknamed | whats wrong with that? |
| 18:01.00 | elmo40 | wols: can you not put it in .bashrc? when you login, it will read that line and append $PATH. |
| 18:01.01 | Nicknamed | I would like to select all dirs and files type |
| 18:01.06 | elmo40 | !PATH |
| 18:01.06 | dpkg | methinks path is the environment variable that tells the OS where to look for programs. It's defined in /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile (for sh-like shells) or ~/.login for csh-like shells. |
| 18:01.19 | elmo40 | ok... .bash_profile :/ |
| 18:01.38 | fredl | well that's challenging to remove all pkgs that are leftover from my unstable period... |
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| 18:02.31 | elmo40 | most .bash_profile's have a line in them to Include .bashrc if it exists. SO it doesnt really matter what .bash he puts it in. |
| 18:02.48 | urv | fredl: have you tried downgrading by pinning some core package? |
| 18:02.55 | fredl | removing and reinstalling coreutils certainly was one of the most fun things I did in a long time :) |
| 18:03.06 | fredl | urv - nope, don't know what that is. |
| 18:03.16 | urv | fredl: man apt_preferences |
| 18:03.27 | urv | fredl: search for downgrade |
| 18:03.31 | HardDisk_WP | what mode/owner should /tmp have? |
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| 18:03.43 | HardDisk_WP | somehow FF and thunderbird complain they couldnt create files |
| 18:04.08 | fredl | well I think I'm pretty far already now |
| 18:04.21 | elmo40 | drwxrwxrwt 14 root root 4096 Dec 16 11:33 tmp |
| 18:04.31 | gravity | !noxpaster |
| 18:04.31 | dpkg | noxpaster is probably Install the elinks package and launch it. Go to your paste site and when you have to paste your file in to the form, select the text area, hit 'L' to bring up the form menu, and select "Open in external editor". This will launch your $EDITOR. Use your editor to copy your logfile to the other widow, then save and quit and it'll be in the form. |
| 18:04.34 | gravity | win |
| 18:04.37 | fredl | I just went through removing / reinstalling a whole bunch of packages that appeared newer than what's in the testing repo |
| 18:04.54 | fredl | not really an easy task but not that bad either. |
| 18:04.55 | gravity | That factoid should probably be cleaned up a lot, but it's a good start |
| 18:05.55 | \amethyst | HardDisk_WP: note that that is mode 1777, not 777 |
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| 18:08.22 | cusco | doesnt crontab leaves a log or stuff that ran |
| 18:08.32 | cusco | because I have a entrie that seems not to run :/ |
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| 18:08.53 | piroko | cusco: It should email you |
| 18:09.04 | `Abo | doh.... just finished installing debian.. and after the first reboot of the machine to load the os I get: hdb DMA timeout error |
| 18:09.05 | piroko | cusco: Check `mail` |
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| 18:09.13 | remember | hey guys |
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| 18:09.16 | elmo40 | only if it is in the list and could not run. But if it is not there, then nothing to email :P |
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| 18:09.29 | cusco | piroko: I thought so too, but it doesn't! |
| 18:09.31 | `Abo | hdb: dma_timerexpiry: dma status == 0x61 |
| 18:09.31 | remember | would someone that has installed Virtuozzo on their system be able to help me please? |
| 18:09.35 | jane19 | how can i update my kernel so that it is compiled with the new gcc that i am using? |
| 18:09.48 | wols | elmo40: I am not sure. all I know my PATH is set in the *profile files |
| 18:09.55 | coldstea1 | hello I was wondering how to downgrade an app |
| 18:10.04 | wols | jane19: compile your own kernel |
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| 18:10.06 | wols | coldstea1: manually |
| 18:10.07 | creative | re |
| 18:10.17 | elmo40 | wols: take a look at your .bash_profiles file, it will have a line in there saying 'if bashrc exists...' |
| 18:10.25 | auauaau | would someone that has installed Virtuozzo on their system be able to help me please???? I appreciate it... |
| 18:10.31 | elmo40 | !ask |
| 18:10.32 | coldstea1 | firefox went to 3b and now none of my extensions work :( |
| 18:10.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:10.34 | jane19 | okay. diff question. if i compile an app and it wants to use a diff gcc how can i make it use the old one instead of the new one? |
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| 18:10.37 | creative | tud vki egy fasza etch repo listet ? |
| 18:10.45 | coldstea1 | wols: how? |
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| 18:11.00 | wols | coldstea1: with dpkg -i and the proper --force option |
| 18:11.03 | gamag | I am on Lenny and I am doing aptitude update, aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 18:11.15 | elmo40 | jane19: use a flag., with_gcc=/<location> |
| 18:11.16 | wols | !hu |
| 18:11.17 | dpkg | hu is, like, Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #debian.hu -t. |
| 18:11.17 | `Abo | doh.... just finished installing debian.. and after the first reboot of the machine to load the os I get: hdb DMA timeout error .. hdb: dma_timerexpiry: dma status == 0x61 |
| 18:11.20 | gamag | to lenny itself. It says it will remove many packages a few of which are: xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark |
| 18:11.20 | `Abo | anyone? |
| 18:11.25 | gamag | is it fine to go ahead? |
| 18:11.31 | jane19 | elmo: thanks |
| 18:11.33 | elmo40 | jane19: or something like that, anyways... type: ./configure --help, it will show you how. |
| 18:11.47 | wols | gamag: remove it doing what? |
| 18:11.50 | jane19 | elmo its VMware .. doesnt have a configure |
| 18:12.16 | elmo40 | why are you compiuling vmware? |
| 18:12.17 | wols | jane19: export CC=/path/zo/gcc |
| 18:12.19 | gamag | wols: I didn't get you. aptitude dist-upgrade wants to remove them. should I allow? |
| 18:12.23 | jane19 | wols, thanks |
| 18:12.28 | wols | elmo40: vmware has needs a kernel module |
| 18:12.40 | elmo40 | ah yes, kernel modules... |
| 18:12.46 | wols | gamag: you can but I don't get why |
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| 18:13.08 | gamag | wouldn't it harm my gnome or X display |
| 18:13.18 | gamag | it wants to remove some 20 packages starting with xserver |
| 18:13.36 | elmo40 | gamag: we dont see your entire list. use pastebin.ca to show us what aptitude is asking from you. |
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| 18:15.09 | `Abo | hdb: dma_timerexpiry: dma status == 0x61 |
| 18:15.10 | smacnay | where does one look to see when a package will be upgraded in testing? |
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| 18:15.14 | `Abo | why does this appear? |
| 18:15.28 | auauaau | would someone that has installed Virtuozzo on their system be able to help me please???? I appreciate it... |
| 18:15.34 | jelly-home | smacnay: /msg dpkg why is XXXX not in testing |
| 18:15.36 | TheViral_ | a little off topic but..we just found our missing cat hiding in the ductwork of the house :) |
| 18:15.49 | smacnay | jelly-home: thanks |
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| 18:16.17 | gamag | wols: http://pastebin.ca/818964 |
| 18:16.19 | sirini | gravity: re :) |
| 18:16.30 | gravity | !noxpaste |
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| 18:16.36 | eth01 | !paste |
| 18:16.36 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 18:16.48 | \amethyst | gamag: what if you do just aptitude upgrade instead? |
| 18:16.48 | gravity | !noxpaster |
| 18:16.49 | dpkg | i guess noxpaster is Install the elinks package and launch it. Go to your paste site and when you have to paste your file in to the form, select the text area, hit 'L' to bring up the form menu, and select "Open in external editor". This will launch your $EDITOR. Use your editor to copy your logfile to the other widow, then save and quit and it'll be in the form. |
| 18:16.50 | sirini | gravity: bastei.org/Xorg.0.log (has to be there now.. o.o) |
| 18:17.02 | wols | !pastewithoutx |
| 18:17.02 | dpkg | from memory, pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
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| 18:17.33 | gravity | Ah, that's better |
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| 18:17.43 | sirini | yo, hoped so |
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| 18:17.48 | gamag | \amethyst: on aptitude upgrade, only one to remove: gmobilemedia |
| 18:17.53 | gravity | This is definitely the problem with the factoid method |
| 18:17.55 | fredl | hmm isn't there a log somewhere of all the packages apt removes? |
| 18:17.58 | gravity | Too easy to duplicate entries |
| 18:18.01 | \amethyst | gamag: then do that instead :) |
| 18:18.20 | \amethyst | gamag: dist-upgrade is a little too delete-happy sometimes :) |
| 18:18.23 | gravity | sirini: Don't use vga, use vesa |
| 18:18.23 | keith4_ | trying to get usb to serial adapter working in debian... modprobe'd usbserial and pl2303, but when I plug in the thing, it does this: http://pastebin.ca/818965 |
| 18:18.37 | evilsporkman | has anyone been complaining about apt being borked on lenny? |
| 18:18.39 | gamag | \amethyst: but I want the latest dist-upgrade because it has the new kernel and may new stuff |
| 18:18.42 | gravity | sirini: This is on x86 or amd64, right? |
| 18:19.06 | \amethyst | gamag: Do you know the difference between aptitude upgrade and aptitude dist-upgrade? |
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| 18:19.11 | sirini | x8, gravity |
| 18:19.14 | sirini | x86 |
| 18:19.17 | gravity | sirini: Ok yeah, try vesa |
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| 18:19.32 | gravity | Assuming that you don't want a different driver |
| 18:19.32 | sirini | hm what is vesa? btw why should i try it? |
| 18:19.35 | urv | fredl: something like /var/log/dpkg.log? |
| 18:19.36 | \amethyst | gamag: can you pastebin the output of just aptitude upgrade ? |
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| 18:19.42 | sirini | its an intel chipset |
| 18:19.44 | gravity | sirini: How did you configure X? |
| 18:19.45 | gamag | \amethyst: yes, a little. like aptitude upgrade wouldn't install a new kernel. but aptitude dist-upgrade would. |
| 18:19.45 | gravity | Argh |
| 18:19.46 | auauaau | would someone that has installed Virtuozzo on their system be able to help me please???? I appreciate it... |
| 18:19.48 | TheViral | wols: Ok...guess what, I removed 128bit WEP encryption from my wireless and I connected and then dhclient ath0'd and it works now |
| 18:19.52 | fredl | oh there it is... tnx again |
| 18:19.57 | sirini | with vga-driver |
| 18:20.10 | gravity | sirini: What is vga-driver? |
| 18:20.31 | gamag | \amethyst: http://pastebin.ca/818970 |
| 18:20.36 | urv | fredl: actually it is dpkg which removes packages - apt is just a wrapper around dpkg i think |
| 18:20.47 | TheViral | wols: should I try to re-enable encryption? |
| 18:20.49 | wols | TheViral: wep is useless anyways |
| 18:20.52 | fredl | *nod* |
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| 18:20.58 | wols | TheViral: either use WPA or don't bother |
| 18:21.00 | evilsporkman | sudo apt-get update |
| 18:21.01 | evilsporkman | apt-get: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.6-6.so.4.4: undefined symbol: _ZNK13Configuration5FindBEPKcb |
| 18:21.01 | sirini | thought a universal-driver for bad graphic cards *lol |
| 18:21.16 | \amethyst | gamag: you could do aptitude upgrade then aptitude install linux-image-2.6-486 to upgrade that package |
| 18:21.17 | gravity | sirini: That's not what I mean. What did you do to configure X? |
| 18:21.23 | gravity | sirini: What commands did you run? |
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| 18:21.25 | TheViral | wols: how do I do that? All I did was enable 128bit encryption on my router |
| 18:21.25 | fredl | I now just gotta find a way to reinstall all the dependant packages that were removed because I removed pkgs out of synch |
| 18:21.30 | sirini | dpkg-reconfiguer xserver-xorg |
| 18:21.42 | wols | TheViral: does your router support WPA? |
| 18:21.59 | gamag | \amethyst: what would I miss if I do only aptitude upgrade which I could have got by aptitude dist-upgrade? |
| 18:22.00 | TheViral | wols: I don't think I have the option |
| 18:22.03 | gravity | sirini: Run it again and choose 'intel' |
| 18:22.03 | auauaau | would someone that has installed Virtuozzo on their system be able to help me please???? I appreciate it... |
| 18:22.10 | wols | evilsporkman: you are mistaken. it regularly does |
| 18:22.13 | \amethyst | gamag: those packages it says have been "kept back" |
| 18:22.14 | gravity | sirini: Or 'i810' if intel isn't there |
| 18:22.19 | TheViral | wols: It's not a store bought router, it comes from my internet company |
| 18:22.19 | gravity | god, I need to kill that |
| 18:22.20 | gamag | ok |
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| 18:22.34 | wols | TheViral: doesn't answer my question |
| 18:22.49 | wols | gravity: kill what? |
| 18:22.50 | dvs | TheViral: what is the make and model of your router? |
| 18:22.53 | evilsporkman | wols: this is the second time in something like 3 or 4 years i've encountered bad breakage on lenny; pretty good if you ask me. :) |
| 18:22.54 | sirini | hmps. i think there was no option for intel. so i will try again and leave now. vesa was a working driver too, gravity? |
| 18:23.08 | `Abo | doh.... just finished installing debian.. and after the first reboot of the machine to load the os I get: hdb DMA timeout error .. hdb: dma_timerexpiry: dma status == 0x61 |
| 18:23.10 | gravity | wols: Selecting your driver manually in the xserver-xorg script |
| 18:23.14 | `Abo | anyone who can tell me whats wrong? |
| 18:23.16 | gravity | It's almost dead. Another week or two |
| 18:23.21 | gamag | \amethyst: even in dist-upgrade -> The following packages have been automatically kept back: xserver-xorg-core - why is some package kept back in dist-upgrade also? |
| 18:23.22 | gravity | sirini: Then choose i810 |
| 18:23.31 | TheViral | dvs, wols: it's a siemens speedstream 6520...no ide what year |
| 18:23.44 | sirini | tried i810, gravity - didn't work also |
| 18:23.51 | wols | TheViral: aka shit. "siemens", says all |
| 18:23.53 | gravity | sirini: Could you put the log up when you use i810? |
| 18:23.56 | \amethyst | gamag: I didn't see that in the thing you pasted |
| 18:24.08 | sirini | k i will |
| 18:24.19 | wols | !tell gamag about kept back |
| 18:24.19 | sirini | thx gravity, cu ;) |
| 18:24.31 | |rat| | Hi... |
| 18:24.42 | TheViral | wols: It's from the company though, DSL through phone line, no cable |
| 18:24.43 | gamag | \amethyst: that's in dist-upgrade: http://pastebin.ca/818964 |
| 18:24.51 | |rat| | Does anyone know where it is stored configuration joystick using jscal to calibrate? |
| 18:25.19 | \amethyst | gamag: ah, I missed the resolver stuff |
| 18:25.23 | wols | |rat|: somewhere in /etc/ usually |
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| 18:25.55 | dvs | TheViral: That router does have WPA |
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| 18:26.00 | \amethyst | gamag: because xserver-xorg-core and the other xserver- packages are at different (seemingly incompatible) versions in lenny |
| 18:26.27 | |rat| | but, I used to calibrate the joysticka and now it isn't working propriately |
| 18:26.33 | gravity | eh? |
| 18:26.40 | gravity | They shouldn't be incompatible within lenny |
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| 18:26.48 | eth01 | check! |
| 18:27.01 | eth01 | instead of being lazy. |
| 18:27.05 | eth01 | and making us your slaves. |
| 18:27.25 | gravity | All the X packages inside lenny should work fine together. If you're mixing the suites though you're asking for it |
| 18:27.32 | |rat| | I tray to do: apt-get --purgue remove joystick, and nothing... don't work... |
| 18:27.50 | saschahl | |rat|: look in your $HOME, if it created some hidden configuration file |
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| 18:28.44 | \amethyst | well, perhaps you guys can fix gamag's problem |
| 18:29.12 | \amethyst | I would try not accepting aptitude's first solution |
| 18:29.41 | \amethyst | maybe at the "Accept this solution?" prompty trying +xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all |
| 18:29.52 | gravity | Yeah, there's something wrong there. All the xserver packages should be fine within lenny |
| 18:30.13 | |rat| | saschahl: There is nothing new there... |
| 18:30.37 | eth01 | maybe just try, apt-get install? |
| 18:30.45 | eth01 | apt-get clean; apt-get install |
| 18:30.55 | deadlyninja | is anyone here successfully running samba on debian arm? ive tried etch, lenny, and sid and a bunch of varrying config files, but all my shares are broken |
| 18:31.13 | dutchfish | gamag, did you seq apt-get update && apt-get upgrae && apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 18:31.22 | eth01 | deadlyninja, well, i know it works on etch -.- |
| 18:31.36 | saschahl | |rat|: do you have the possibility to configure the joystick with kcontrol? that works better than jscal |
| 18:31.42 | keith4_ | trying to get usb to serial adapter working in debian... modprobe'd usbserial and pl2303, but when I plug in the thing, it does this: http://pastebin.ca/818965 |
| 18:31.49 | gamag | dutchfish: I did, aptitude update; aptitude upgrade. stopped in between. and did aptitude dist-upgrade. |
| 18:32.06 | mrrcp | how can i see my disk sizes |
| 18:32.07 | mrrcp | ? |
| 18:32.09 | deadlyninja | eth01, which arm device are you using? |
| 18:32.15 | pobega_ | mrrcp: df -h |
| 18:32.16 | dutchfish | gamag, and after that you tried apt-get -f install ? |
| 18:32.18 | cyberfr0g | yo |
| 18:32.25 | deadlyninja | eth01, im starting to think maybe its a bug with something other than the binaries |
| 18:32.30 | gamag | dutchfish: more precisely. aptitude update; aptitude upgrade; /* kill upgrade in between */; aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 18:32.35 | |rat| | saschahl: i have gnome... |
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| 18:32.41 | gamag | dutchfish: no! Is there a -f equivalent in aptitude? |
| 18:33.07 | pobega_ | gamag: I think aptitude does -f itself if it senses something is broken. |
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| 18:33.19 | pandrew | hey guys! what program would you recommend for playing audio cds when the cdrom is not connected to the soundcard? |
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| 18:34.20 | mrrcp | thanks pobega_ |
| 18:34.25 | pobega_ | gamag: But I also believe aptitude takes the -f parameter if you also tell it WHICH package is broken; I'm not sure if `aptitude -f` alone works...But it may. |
| 18:34.45 | pobega | Ugh, stupid internet dying. I didn't even notice the trailing underscore. |
| 18:34.54 | dutchfish | gamag, you did kill the upgrade? then woud try aptitude clean && aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 18:34.56 | cmihai | pandrew, you could just rip the tracks to FLAC and use anything you want :P |
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| 18:35.21 | pandrew | cmihai: if i don't have the disk space? can i play it with something directly? |
| 18:35.26 | cmihai | cdplay? |
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| 18:35.30 | sirini | re |
| 18:35.42 | sirini | gravity: it works.. =) |
| 18:35.51 | sirini | with i810 - drivers.. |
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| 18:35.54 | |rat| | something to configure the joystick in gnome? |
| 18:35.55 | volker__ | hi |
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| 18:36.01 | gravity | sirini: Good |
| 18:36.29 | volker__ | i run into problems installing debian. the system reboots after sata_sil24 is loaded. |
| 18:36.37 | sirini | ya. thx a lot. neither i understand why it didn't work before *lol* |
| 18:36.45 | volker__ | i googled around but couldnt find a way how to disable the sata_sil24 module |
| 18:37.04 | wols | !tell volker__ about blacklist |
| 18:37.13 | sirini | so now hav to find out how to autostart it with fluxbox. kde is running now. |
| 18:37.17 | gravity | sirini: Me neither, without the log we'll never know, but that's ok |
| 18:37.18 | TheViral | dvs: Does it? I guess I'll have to try and figure it out |
| 18:37.31 | TheViral | dvs: I'll be back after I tinker with it for a bit |
| 18:37.33 | sirini | ya =) |
| 18:37.35 | gravity | sirini: put "exec fluxbox" in ~/.xsession |
| 18:37.39 | saschahl | |rat|: maybe, I don't know. I think jscal uses the interface with version 1 for Joysticks, kcontrol uses the version 2 interface |
| 18:37.40 | gravity | Assuming fluxbox is installed |
| 18:37.44 | sirini | hui. k |
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| 18:38.58 | volker__ | wols: thanks for the tip! |
| 18:39.45 | pandrew | cmihai: which package? |
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| 18:39.55 | TheViral | dvs: Hey, what WPA enc should I use? |
| 18:40.02 | TheViral | dvs: TKIP of AES? |
| 18:40.07 | TheViral | dvs: or* |
| 18:40.38 | dvs | TheViral: I use TKIP |
| 18:41.01 | TheViral | dvs: Ok, just making sure there's no right or wrong methods :P |
| 18:41.09 | TheViral | dvs: and I am off to try it |
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| 18:43.42 | sirini | ls |
| 18:43.45 | sirini | ups |
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| 18:49.11 | HardDisk_WP | in which package is the smbadmin utility |
| 18:49.13 | HardDisk_WP | ? |
| 18:49.29 | simonrvn | !tell HardDisk_WP -about search |
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| 18:50.15 | admin_ | I'm trying to mount a SD card, mount: /dev/sdc: can't read superblock |
| 18:50.46 | fredl | so there's no filesystem on it? |
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| 18:52.47 | wols | admin_: you can't mount the disk, you mount the partition |
| 18:52.53 | wols | admin_: mount sdc1 |
| 18:52.59 | admin_ | there's no sdc1 :( |
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| 18:53.10 | wols | admin_: fdisk -l |
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| 18:53.12 | admin_ | i used gparted earlier and put FAT32 on it |
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| 18:57.30 | dutchfish | admin_ maybe its not /dev/sdc but something else atm? |
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| 19:03.28 | b0rsuk | Hey, can anyone help me make my cdrom work ? I have Asus P5K SE mobo (IP35, Marvel). Etch and Lenny don't detect cdrom, and generic.all_generic_ide=1 doesn't help. But if I boot from Kubuntu livecd (with generic.all_generic_ide=1) my dvd drive works properly. |
| 19:03.44 | dto | hmm |
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| 19:03.51 | b0rsuk | I'm thinking about copying configuration from Kubuntu livecd to Debian. How to track it down ? |
| 19:03.52 | dto | well, boot from kubuntu |
| 19:04.06 | dto | do a dmesg > file |
| 19:04.13 | dto | look through it to figure out which cdrom you have |
| 19:04.16 | b0rsuk | But I need to install something from cd ... |
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| 19:04.40 | dto | b0rsuk: can you explain in more detail what you're trying to do? |
| 19:04.41 | enouf | b0rsuk: i believe you might need either a nerwer kernel or pas the libata.atapi.cdrom=1 option at boot |
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| 19:04.56 | b0rsuk | uname -r : 2.6.20-15-generic (Kubuntu) . On Lenny/Testing I have 2.6.22-3 something |
| 19:05.20 | enouf | b0rsuk: i thought the Marvell IDE crap was worked out already though for Etch's .18 |
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| 19:05.29 | b0rsuk | dto : I want to make my dvd drive work in Debian, because currently it only works in kubuntu Livecd . That's something, at least. |
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| 19:05.46 | b0rsuk | I'd like to check configuration of kubuntu livecd and get some insights on how to configure Debian |
| 19:05.58 | b0rsuk | enouf : Yes, it is crap. |
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| 19:06.33 | b0rsuk | But if Kubuntu livecd can make it work somehow (namely, generic.all_generic_ide=1) then there's high chance it's possible to make it work in Debian, too. Especially that I have newer kernel. |
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| 19:06.44 | dto | do you have debian installed on the machiine? |
| 19:06.56 | dto | or you can't get to that stage because debian is on a cd? |
| 19:07.04 | b0rsuk | libata.atapi.cdrom=1 I'm writing it down |
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| 19:07.37 | enouf | b0rsuk: it's an older hack that may be deprecated, but worth a shot |
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| 19:08.19 | b0rsuk | generic.all_generic_ide=1 worked for me in Kubuntu. For other people in Etch, using /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 works during install from cd. Neither worked for me in Lenny or Etch |
| 19:08.23 | enouf | b0rsuk: are you using a recent Etch installer CD? or an old one? |
| 19:08.48 | enouf | lenny too? hrm |
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| 19:09.03 | b0rsuk | Not sure about etch because I tried it like half a month ago, but I tried Lenny from 10 or 14th December |
| 19:09.09 | jelly-home | enouf: is there a difference? |
| 19:09.12 | b0rsuk | I installed Debian Lenny via debootstrap |
| 19:09.19 | enouf | jelly-home: to what? |
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| 19:09.25 | jelly-home | enouf: etch cds |
| 19:09.31 | frankr | how can I set the desktop wallpaper when using fluxbox |
| 19:09.37 | dutchfish | b0rsuk, enouf i had simalir issues, turning sata native mode switch to legacy helped on a few dif systems to boot installer cd |
| 19:09.51 | enouf | jelly-home: yes, Etch receives kernel updates/fixes and security updates |
| 19:09.52 | b0rsuk | dutchfish : bios ? |
| 19:09.58 | dutchfish | b0rsuk, enouf in bios, yes |
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| 19:10.09 | enouf | jelly-home: AFAIK |
| 19:10.22 | jelly-home | enouf: ... I wasn't aware they fixed hardware issues too |
| 19:10.34 | b0rsuk | But there's no definite workaround that works on all systems, right ? |
| 19:10.43 | enouf | dutchfish: sure - BIOS settings was my next line of attack ;-) |
| 19:10.53 | dutchfish | ;) |
| 19:11.20 | enouf | jelly-home: i'm not so sure about that = but revisions within the kernel do deal with that if apropos |
| 19:11.22 | jelly-home | !kmuto perhaps (even newer kernel) |
| 19:11.41 | b0rsuk | Ok, another question. I don't really need dvd/cd most of the time, I just want to install 2 games from it. Suppose that I booted Kubuntu or another linux from USB and tried to mount my /home from Debian and install a game to my home dir. Would that work ? |
| 19:11.45 | enouf | jelly-home: which is why i said "you might need a newer kernel" |
| 19:12.00 | dutchfish | running 2.6.23-11 vanilla, this even has issues still |
| 19:12.00 | enouf | jelly-home: prior to hearing "i tried lenny too" |
| 19:12.15 | enouf | jelly-home: indeed, kmuto ftw |
| 19:12.37 | b0rsuk | One thing for sure : Marvel is not so marvelous at all ! |
| 19:12.47 | dutchfish | ~.~ |
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| 19:12.53 | enouf | b0rsuk: make sure AHCI is enabled in the BIOS as well as ACPI and APIC |
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| 19:13.35 | enouf | b0rsuk: i helped someone on gentoo whom had AHCi disabled in BIOS, could not read from CD/DVD drive - until enables |
| 19:13.39 | b0rsuk | Thanks, I;ll try it. |
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| 19:14.18 | b0rsuk | Actually, what IS AHCI ? I believe I tried turning it on and off at some point, but it would help if I knew what it actually /is/ . |
| 19:14.33 | enouf | advanced host controller interface |
| 19:14.41 | b0rsuk | Ah. |
| 19:14.59 | enouf | google define:AHCI when in doubt |
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| 19:15.27 | enouf | b0rsuk: also take a peek at linux-ata.org |
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| 19:15.55 | TheViral | for some reason my DHCP won't recieve an IP from secured networks |
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| 19:16.22 | dutchfish | enouf, do you know by change how 2.6.22-3 in lenny is related to the vanilla flavor? i still dont grasp the minor numbering in debian ... |
| 19:16.29 | b0rsuk | Hypothetical (desperate) question. Let's say I install Kubuntu (because cdrom works there) on another disk, boot from it, and install the game on my Debian home partition. Would it work after turning off Kubntu and booting back to Debian ? |
| 19:17.22 | b0rsuk | Or, in general, can I install a game in /home on one system and have it work after booting from another ? |
| 19:17.23 | jello | b0rsuk: if you have enough disk space, you could generate an iso image while in Kubuntu and then loop mount it under debian |
| 19:17.37 | enouf | dutchfish: sorry, no i don't - all i know is debain (us) supply our own specific patches - of which can be found in the source, etc |
| 19:17.38 | dutchfish | b0rsuk, why not chroot into it? |
| 19:17.43 | b0rsuk | jello : or fool around with debootstrap or sometihng ? |
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| 19:17.52 | b0rsuk | dutchfish : because I don't know how to chroot . |
| 19:18.03 | dutchfish | !chroot |
| 19:18.03 | dpkg | it has been said that chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 19:18.17 | jello | b0rsuk: nah, just dd the cdrom into an iso file, then boot debian and mount the iso |
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| 19:18.27 | fgdg | hi |
| 19:18.35 | fgdg | someone can help me with nat and iptables? |
| 19:18.42 | jello | !tell fgdg about ask |
| 19:18.48 | dutchfish | enouf, thx anyway |
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| 19:18.59 | fredl | WTF, texlive-fonts-extra-doc.... 17.3MB |
| 19:19.02 | enouf | dutchfish: i try ;-) |
| 19:19.05 | b0rsuk | By the way, I nearly nuked my /home partition while installing via debootstrap, I tried to fix some mistake with rm -rf /mnt/debinst and I forgot my home,home2 are already mounted in there. It's a miracle it stopped on /home2 because device was busy. I lost (it seems) only minor data I can easily recereate |
| 19:19.17 | fredl | that's one bigass doc package |
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| 19:19.35 | b0rsuk | jello : will that work for installing a game ? |
| 19:19.46 | dutchfish | !tell fgdg about ask |
| 19:19.55 | b0rsuk | Will I be able to install a game from hdd (iso) ? |
| 19:19.56 | fredl | texlive-latex-extra-doc, 76.4MB !!! |
| 19:19.59 | fredl | gaaaah |
| 19:20.03 | jello | b0rsuk: why not? |
| 19:20.07 | fgdg | jello, im using scripts but I dont know how to edit it correctly, I get the internet from wireless and i want to share it with the ethernet card, so,in the scriipt where "-i" i need to put eth2 from where i get internet,or eth0 to where I share? |
| 19:20.08 | fredl | I need BROAD broadband |
| 19:20.14 | b0rsuk | Neither Dominions3 nor ET:QW is paranoid about copy protections, as far as I know. |
| 19:20.32 | b0rsuk | There's just one annoying problem : when I boot from kubuntu livecd, it doesn't let me eject cd. |
| 19:20.34 | \amethyst | fredl: Do you need the extra docs? |
| 19:20.53 | fredl | amethyst - nah. But some dependancy installs it. |
| 19:21.00 | fredl | dependency? |
| 19:21.11 | fredl | dependance dependence... |
| 19:21.17 | \amethyst | fredl: texlive-full maybe? |
| 19:21.19 | jello | fgdg: use pastebin to post the scripts and maybe we can help you... |
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| 19:22.17 | fredl | not sure amthyst, I'm doing some batch apt-get's to update my system after I just massively broke it |
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| 19:22.34 | enouf | b0rsuk: have you made sure of your ahci bios settings yet? did i miss something? (sorry - a bit distrated here) |
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| 19:23.07 | enouf | b0rsuk: is that a laptop? can you try to use the ICH rather than marvell controller? |
| 19:23.09 | fgdg | jello, http://pastebin.com/m17461e90 |
| 19:23.10 | b0rsuk | enouf : I haven't, but I'm trying to milk this channel as much as possible to avoid unnecessary reboots :-) |
| 19:23.13 | fredl | I think it may be tetex-bin or something. |
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| 19:23.24 | b0rsuk | It's annoying to reboot your system over and over, especially if you boot from cd |
| 19:23.27 | enouf | b0rsuk: you're getting youur $$$ worth |
| 19:23.27 | simmerz | I'm trying to do a dpkg-reconfigure -a and i'm finding it just doesn't continue after saying "stopping kernel log daemon: klogd" |
| 19:23.37 | fredl | still... who ever comes up with a 75MB doc pkg? |
| 19:23.40 | b0rsuk | No, desktop machine. |
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| 19:23.57 | fredl | that's just silly |
| 19:24.12 | enouf | b0rsuk: "annoying"? no - annoying is straving for days without food or water! |
| 19:24.17 | TheViral | can I get DHCP through apt-get? |
| 19:24.20 | enouf | starving* |
| 19:24.25 | b0rsuk | enouf : I know that as soon as i shut down I will get a great idea, and I'll be unable to try it out because it will be already shutting down. |
| 19:24.57 | enouf | TheViral: dpkg -l \*dhcp* |
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| 19:25.27 | simmerz | b0rsuk: so write the idea down and try it later |
| 19:25.44 | b0rsuk | I wish the cdrom just worked, grr. |
| 19:25.46 | enouf | all i have installed is dhcpcd 1:3.0.17-2 DHCP client for automatically configuring IPv4 networking |
| 19:25.55 | kLinGo | b0rsuk: try to imagine a shutdown |
| 19:26.07 | TheViral | enouf: Is this a way to search for packages? |
| 19:26.20 | enouf | b0rsuk: it's more likely the controller, not the device, though i'm not certain |
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| 19:26.42 | enouf | TheViral: "/msg dpkg search" |
| 19:26.46 | b0rsuk | Anyway, back to my original quesiton. If cdrom works right now (kubuntu feisty livecd), can I "borrow" the configuration and try it in Debian ? If yes, which files to examine, etc ? |
| 19:27.04 | enouf | !tell TheViral about debian mantra |
| 19:27.07 | jelly-home | b0rsuk: steal their kernel |
| 19:27.10 | b0rsuk | enouf : yeah, Marvel chipset. |
| 19:27.50 | b0rsuk | jelly-home : strange, because this kernel is 2.6.20-15-generic ,and Lenny has newer (2.6.22-3-685 I think) |
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| 19:28.13 | enouf | b0rsuk: livecds have all sorts of magic going on underneath |
| 19:28.15 | b0rsuk | Is it possible that newer kernel from the same line (2.6.x) is worse ? |
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| 19:28.29 | jelly-home | b0rsuk: that's now even very strange. 2.6 series kernels are not exactly the epitome of stability |
| 19:28.30 | enouf | especially it's minirt.gz initrd |
| 19:28.33 | jelly-home | not* |
| 19:28.45 | ohcibi | hi folks, ive set up a subdomain in my apache, but it does not work, what could be wrong? |
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| 19:28.59 | jelly-home | b0rsuk: yes, it's possible. It's also possible that .23 would work |
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| 19:29.41 | fredl | how do I make apt-get download a deb without checking dependencies and stuff? |
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| 19:29.56 | fredl | I mean, apt-get -d install apt-utils barks at me and won't download |
| 19:30.02 | b0rsuk | frendl : man apt-get , but I think it's -f (force) |
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| 19:30.11 | enouf | b0rsuk: i "know" for a fact that the marvell 3xxx IDE controller issue was worked long ago - like .18 or so |
| 19:30.30 | enouf | bah - i'm thinking of JMicron |
| 19:30.34 | enouf | sorry |
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| 19:30.50 | \amethyst | fredl: try aptitude download |
| 19:30.55 | enouf | feckevendor shhits |
| 19:31.14 | b0rsuk | enouf : So how would you test these workarounds ? I can boot Lenny from HDD or Lenny from CD. Which is better ? |
| 19:31.20 | fredl | kewl amethyst. |
| 19:31.22 | fredl | that works |
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| 19:32.01 | enouf | b0rsuk: not sure - i' getting tired ;-) (much snow shovelling toiday) |
| 19:32.08 | b0rsuk | Ok, I'm rebooting to try workarounds.... |
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| 19:32.27 | b0rsuk | You're not terribly excited to hear about my attempts, right ? |
| 19:32.33 | dutchfish | enouf, its getting cold here too -3 d. C |
| 19:33.15 | b0rsuk | dutchfish : if you're in server room, I suppose it's great :-) |
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| 19:33.28 | b0rsuk | Anyway... Kill you later ! |
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| 19:33.45 | dutchfish | b0rsuk, yup i suppose so ;) but how cold a cpu will still function? |
| 19:33.51 | XTF | Hi. How do I stop my domain from being put behind every hostname if I resolve something in Debian that doesn't exist? |
| 19:34.15 | TheViral | enouf: I try to apt-get install dhcp-client and I get this... http://pastebin.com/d52018a11 |
| 19:34.31 | TheViral | enouf: Do you have the proper way to reinstall my dhcp? |
| 19:34.36 | jello | XTF: remove it from /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 19:34.59 | XTF | jello: There's only two nameserver lines in resolv.conf. |
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| 19:35.12 | \amethyst | XTF: there's no search line? |
| 19:35.40 | XTF | No |
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| 19:37.29 | TheViral | jello, \amethyst: do either of you know how to reinstall dhcp? |
| 19:37.46 | jello | TheViral: reinstall? you mean the dhcp client? |
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| 19:42.44 | fly2left | XTF: you can add one line, "order, hosts,bind", into you resolv.conf |
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| 19:43.05 | jello | fly2left: that would have to go in nssswitch.conf |
| 19:43.44 | enouf | TheViral: are you in some sort of VM? |
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| 19:45.05 | fly2left | jello: u are right |
| 19:45.06 | b0rsuk | Just dropped by to say nothing helped. |
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| 19:45.38 | b0rsuk | libata.atapi.cdrom=1 <---- unrecorgnized option. ignoring . |
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| 19:45.57 | b0rsuk | Same for generic.all_generic_ide=1 |
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| 19:46.24 | enouf | b0rsuk: try just generic_ide=1 |
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| 19:46.43 | XTF | fly2left: What would that do? |
| 19:46.48 | b0rsuk | enouf : is there such a command ? I tried all_generic_ide=1 , and all_generic_ide |
| 19:47.23 | b0rsuk | I'm bck on Debian now, fed up with tweaking. |
| 19:47.25 | enouf | dunno |
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| 19:47.59 | enouf | is it even an ide drive? |
| 19:48.09 | b0rsuk | Ah. Right :-) .It's not. |
| 19:48.13 | b0rsuk | It's sata :D |
| 19:48.26 | dvs | !lart b0rsuk |
| 19:48.44 | b0rsuk | Yet somehow, generic.all_generic_ide=1 WORKED in kubuntu. |
| 19:48.48 | fly2left | XTF: that means it will first find the /etc/hosts file when resolving |
| 19:48.52 | enouf | sata is ide, just various bridees and chipeset controllerw |
| 19:49.10 | enouf | bridges* |
| 19:49.20 | b0rsuk | Err, I think it's other way around, ide emulation under sata or something |
| 19:49.34 | XTF | fly2left: Yes, but how will that prevent it from adding a local domain if it doesn't find it? |
| 19:49.35 | enouf | b0rsuk: also take a peek at linux-ata.org |
| 19:49.41 | simonrvn | sata uses the scsi layer |
| 19:49.49 | b0rsuk | enouf : will it hurt ? |
| 19:50.10 | enouf | simonrvn: depends which kernel |
| 19:50.29 | simonrvn | recent ones ;) |
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| 19:50.49 | enouf | will "what "hurt? |
| 19:51.00 | simonrvn | !hurt b0rsuk |
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| 19:52.09 | b0rsuk | Do me a favour and tell people NOT to buy Asus P5K SE, ok ? |
| 19:52.41 | dvs | b0rsuk: There's nothing wrong with the motherboard except that it's too new for Debian |
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| 19:53.21 | fredl | eep, I just threw apt off of my system. real clever |
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| 19:53.47 | b0rsuk | dvs : Kubuntu feisty is older than Debian Lenny |
| 19:53.50 | dvs | fredl: so just install apt with... oh... I get your point. ;-) |
| 19:53.53 | enouf | 'except that it's too new for Debian" is an absurd statement1 |
| 19:53.54 | b0rsuk | At least Kernel |
| 19:54.18 | fredl | how do I find the .deb's for lenny's apt on the ftp server? |
| 19:54.24 | simonrvn | s,Debian,that kernel, |
| 19:54.42 | \amethyst | fredl: http://packages.debian.org/ is probably the easiest way |
| 19:54.44 | fredl | I need to look somewhere in ftp.nl.debian.org/dists/lenny for that, correct? |
| 19:54.57 | jello | fredl: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/apt/download |
| 19:55.05 | simonrvn | fredl: that only shows things like the Packages* files |
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| 19:56.19 | TheViral | jello: yeah, I think it's acting funny when it comes to encrypted AP |
| 19:56.33 | TheViral | enouf: No, I'm on genuine Debian 4.0 Lenny |
| 19:56.34 | b0rsuk | debootstrap can also be used to create sandbox (nested) Linux installs, rather than full installs, right ? |
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| 19:56.43 | netgear | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/build: No such file or directory. -- how does one fix this? |
| 19:56.48 | jello | b0rsuk: yes |
| 19:57.18 | jello | netgear: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686 |
| 19:57.24 | b0rsuk | jello : would my cd work in such a sandbox ? Long enough to copy it on hdd or something ? |
| 19:57.35 | netgear | thanks jello |
| 19:57.45 | b0rsuk | Assuming that I made the sanbox out of Kubntu Feisty, in which the dvd drive works |
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| 19:58.38 | jello | b0rsuk: no, because it will depend on the kernel which doesn't change in the sandbox normally |
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| 19:59.12 | fredl | hmm this way of downgrading that I'm doing I wouldn't advice to anybody :) |
| 19:59.19 | jello | b0rsuk: just grab the kernel deb from Kubuntu Feisty and install it on your debian machine |
| 19:59.42 | fredl | granted, with a little help from IRC you come a long way |
| 19:59.54 | h3sp4wn | b0rsuk: Or you can use kmuto |
| 19:59.57 | h3sp4wn | !kmuto |
| 19:59.58 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 20:00.20 | b0rsuk | Aww, crap. So I have to walk to a friend, copy the dvd disk to hdd, then figure a way to copy it back to me ? It won't fit on flash , so it means copying it old-school way (hdd-hdd) |
| 20:00.30 | b0rsuk | !wtf kmuto |
| 20:00.31 | dpkg | Gee... I don't know what kmuto means... |
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| 20:00.43 | b0rsuk | !wtf dpkg |
| 20:00.44 | dpkg | dpkg: dpkg (1) - package manager for Debian |
| 20:00.47 | jello | b0rsuk: no |
| 20:01.01 | jello | b0rsuk: do you have network under debian? just download it and install |
| 20:01.20 | enouf | !penixstrike b0rsuk |
| 20:01.20 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking b0rsuk to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
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| 20:01.31 | b0rsuk | Yes. Download ? How ? It's not trivial to find an ftp or something with circa 3GB room |
| 20:01.43 | fredl | circa... |
| 20:01.46 | jello | b0rsuk: you don't need the whole thing, just the kernel deb |
| 20:01.49 | enouf | 1990 |
| 20:02.07 | piroko | There's a butt ton of people in this room |
| 20:02.10 | jello | anyways, gotta run |
| 20:02.14 | b0rsuk | enouf : Your father was a hamster, and your mother smelt of elderberries ! |
| 20:02.52 | enouf | b0rsuk: and j0'm0mma wears army boots ;-) |
| 20:02.54 | b0rsuk | piroko : Ubuntu has several times more at least |
| 20:02.59 | piroko | Oh I can imagine |
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| 20:04.11 | SimonW | Hello, I want to run ActiveMQ as a daemon controlled by /etc/init.d ... but I'm a complete Debian newbie. Is there a really simple guide to writing custom init.d scripts anywhere? |
| 20:04.23 | fredl | well despite #ubuntu having several times more people... oh never mind |
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| 20:06.01 | b0rsuk | I just need dvd drive to install those 2 games, both are cool enough to NOT require cd/dvd in drive to run :( |
| 20:06.13 | dvs | SimonW: I thought there is a skeleton script in there somewhere. |
| 20:06.16 | h3sp4wn | SimonW: There is /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 20:06.45 | SimonW | is there a tutorial anywhere on how to use it, or do I just need to bite the bullet and use trial-by-error ? |
| 20:07.43 | h3sp4wn | You just replace the bits you need (You can do as much or as little error checking as you want) |
| 20:07.48 | fredl | grr |
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| 20:08.00 | fredl | what does this mean: E: No downloadable files for libsasl2-2 version 2.1.22.dfsg1-16; perhaps it is a local or obsolete package? |
| 20:08.01 | SimonW | OK thanks, I'll poke around and see how I do |
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| 20:08.35 | fredl | libsasl2-2 is the only package I currently still have installed from unstable instead of lenny's |
| 20:08.36 | dserban_ | i'm using gdm and x in a 640x480 resolution, the fants are rendered too small and are somewhat unreadable. What can I do to increase the default font size? |
| 20:08.44 | error0327 | good evening all |
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| 20:10.34 | error0327 | i am trying to resize the buffer of the movie player if any one do that before help me i am using debian testing thanks .. |
| 20:10.46 | ezlfi | [ead]: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 20:12.20 | ezlfi | how would i fix this error? -> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 20:13.16 | ezlfi | how would i fix this error? -> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 20:13.49 | jelly-home | ezlfi: pastebin the command you ran and the complete output |
| 20:13.52 | error0327 | is that pose bole to resize the buffer of the movie player ?? |
| 20:14.00 | jelly-home | !tell ezlfi about paster |
| 20:14.17 | ezlfi | ok |
| 20:14.53 | jelly-home | error0327: which player? have you read its documentation? |
| 20:15.05 | ezlfi | jelly-home, http://paste.debian.net/45024 |
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| 20:16.24 | error0327 | jelly-home.the movie player of debian and yes i read it and not find any think that toke about that soo can you help ? |
| 20:17.05 | ezlfi | could someone help me fix this error: http://paste.debian.net/45024 Greatly Appreciated. |
| 20:17.06 | jelly-home | error0327: there's a lot of movie players in debian, you'll have to be more specific. |
| 20:17.16 | jelly-home | !tell ezlfi -about repeat |
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| 20:17.41 | ezlfi | |
| 20:17.41 | error0327 | jelly-home,it is Totem Movie player 2.18.2 |
| 20:17.43 | \amethyst | ezlfi: what does readlink --version say? |
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| 20:18.34 | solar_eee | how do I enable direct rendering with opengl in lenny ? (and a gma900 card) |
| 20:18.40 | ezlfi | \amethyst, readlink (coreutils) 5.2.1 |
| 20:19.00 | jelly-home | ezlfi: your system wasn't properly upgraded to etch. |
| 20:19.31 | jelly-home | !tell ezlfi about sarge->etch |
| 20:20.27 | epsilon | is the current samba version in etch little unstable? |
| 20:20.35 | epsilon | 2nd crash today... |
| 20:20.53 | jelly-home | error0327: no experience with totem here, sorry. But mplayer can do it easily. |
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| 20:22.45 | error0327 | jelly-home,but withe mplayer i tray to open a live movie like ""http://video.stage6.com/1288985/.divx"" and the mplayer just stuck soo what you think do that ?? |
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| 20:23.26 | passwd | jelly-home, and how would we properly install that etech like you said |
| 20:23.27 | DustyBin | if one uses a core2duo 64-bit CPU, what 64-bit kernel would one use with it? amd64? |
| 20:23.40 | simonrvn | yes |
| 20:23.47 | jelly-home | error0327: that one works for me in mplayer. |
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| 20:24.08 | DustyBin | why isnt there a kernel named, intel64 ? |
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| 20:24.13 | simonrvn | jelly-home: is 'jelly' also you? |
| 20:24.28 | jelly-home | simonrvn: yes, that's me in the corner |
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| 20:24.39 | error0327 | jelly-home,you thinks reinstall it is a good idea ?? |
| 20:24.46 | trifler | im i run a program in my terminal that ouputs allot of rows how can i save them in a file? ./program < filename or somehing like that? |
| 20:24.50 | trifler | if* |
| 20:24.51 | jelly-home | error0327: no. |
| 20:25.01 | ezlfi | jelly-home, and how would we properly install that etech like you said? |
| 20:25.02 | \amethyst | trifler: > not < |
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| 20:25.12 | simonrvn | ok, was wondering. i'm sure i've seen people say as much, but horse. mouth. straight. from. works good ;) |
| 20:25.15 | passwd | and how would we properly install that etech like you said ?? |
| 20:25.27 | jelly-home | ezlfi: start by following what dpkg told you about sarge->etch |
| 20:25.43 | error0327 | jelly-home,soo what to do ?? |
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| 20:27.03 | jelly-home | error0327: is your mplayer from the distro or from dmm? I'd use the one from /msg dpkg dmm |
| 20:27.04 | wols | DustyBin: why isn't there a kernel named amd386? |
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| 20:27.40 | \amethyst | DustyBin: it's called amd64 because Intel copied AMD's architecture |
| 20:28.03 | passwd | jelly-home, how come on the realease notes i dont see anyting about etech like you said? |
| 20:28.06 | simonrvn | DustyBin: the names are derived from the (sub-)arch name, and why it's called that see \amethyst's |
| 20:28.12 | \amethyst | at least the ISA, anyway |
| 20:28.15 | DustyBin | interesting |
| 20:28.37 | jelly-home | passwd: it's "etch" |
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| 20:28.53 | passwd | yes sorry etch |
| 20:28.56 | error0327 | jelly-home, i really dont know i have many sorses in the apt-get list |
| 20:28.57 | passwd | i was sent this website here |
| 20:29.02 | passwd | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 20:29.07 | passwd | and i dont see anything about etch =X |
| 20:29.11 | DustyBin | very clever mr bond, but not quite clever enough.. |
| 20:29.14 | \amethyst | !ISA is also instruction set architecture, the specification of how a CPU architecture is programmed. |
| 20:29.15 | dpkg | okay, \amethyst |
| 20:30.20 | dvs | DustyBin: heh |
| 20:30.26 | passwd | jelly-home, im trying to find on that website, have search and no etch =X |
| 20:30.35 | jelly-home | passwd: try clicking on the link for your architecture. |
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| 20:31.06 | simonrvn | passwd: because etch == stable |
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| 20:31.17 | jelly-home | simonrvn: you've spoiled it! |
| 20:31.28 | dvs | simonrvn: spoiler! |
| 20:31.35 | passwd | lol |
| 20:31.43 | simonrvn | i'm tired of seeing her/him/it floudering around like a fish out of water |
| 20:31.48 | passwd | thanks guys im really trying to find it =) just not as much knowledge as you |
| 20:31.50 | simonrvn | floundering* |
| 20:31.59 | dvs | simonrvn: but we enjoy it!! |
| 20:32.10 | jelly-home | had he actually clicked on i386 or whatever, he'd have found "etch" |
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| 20:32.52 | simonrvn | passwd: did you click that link? do so for your own good |
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| 20:33.16 | passwd | simonrvn, yes sir!, i clicked on amd64 =) searching it now, i appreciate it. |
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| 20:33.39 | simonrvn | good, and please don't call me sir, i hate that |
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| 20:33.51 | passwd | =X sorry |
| 20:33.55 | simonrvn | we're all equal |
| 20:33.57 | error0327 | jelly-home, my mplayer from DEBAPT graphics i that a good one ?? |
| 20:34.03 | jelly-home | simonrvn: yes Sir, starting now Sir |
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| 20:34.10 | passwd | lol |
| 20:34.14 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 20:34.15 | wols | simonrvn: some are more equal than others |
| 20:34.21 | passwd | yep |
| 20:34.25 | passwd | wols said it all |
| 20:34.27 | passwd | lol |
| 20:34.47 | jelly-home | error0327: I have no idea what is that. pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy mplayer" |
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| 20:35.11 | passwd | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ap-old-stuff.en.html#s-old-upgrade am i in the right page? |
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| 20:35.33 | passwd | for E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 20:35.38 | dutchfish | hi, can someone confirm if u32 is implemented in netfilter within debians latest etch kernel 2.6.18? |
| 20:35.54 | jelly-home | passwd: paste the output of "uname -a" |
| 20:35.58 | wols | dutchfish: check your .config file |
| 20:36.24 | dutchfish | wols, you are right again, stupid me ;) |
| 20:36.24 | passwd | jelly-home, Linux debian 2.6.18-5-k7 #1 SMP Sat Dec 1 23:28:28 UTC 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux |
| 20:36.43 | jelly-home | passwd: you're not in the right place then, you have an x86 installation. |
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| 20:37.00 | wols | passwd: that's already etch and 32bit. if you want to go 64bit you need to reinstall from scratch |
| 20:37.46 | passwd | jelly-home, good http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ =) |
| 20:37.48 | passwd | thats the one right |
| 20:37.55 | jelly-home | passwd: yes |
| 20:38.01 | passwd | thank you so much |
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| 20:39.11 | passwd | jelly-home, is this supposed to be happening on the installation of virtuozzo? |
| 20:39.29 | passwd | im sorry |
| 20:39.30 | passwd | apt-get |
| 20:39.37 | jelly-home | passwd: I have no experience with virtuozzo |
| 20:39.49 | passwd | im sorry not virtuzzo got confused |
| 20:39.51 | passwd | apt-get |
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| 20:40.41 | jelly-home | passwd: you have a partially upgraded system, you need to upgrade it completely and you'll get rid of that and other possible errors caused by mixing two debian releases. |
| 20:41.24 | passwd | jelly-home upgrade to 2.6 kernel am i right? |
| 20:41.37 | jelly-home | passwd: please read the release notes. |
| 20:41.38 | wols | passwd: you already run a 2.6 kernel |
| 20:41.50 | ezlfi | afffffffffffffffff |
| 20:41.56 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.08 | fredl | uhhh could it be that nvidia-glx is not in lenny? |
| 20:42.56 | \amethyst | fredl: you are correct |
| 20:43.12 | fredl | why's that?? |
| 20:43.21 | \amethyst | !why is nvidia-glx not in testing |
| 20:43.21 | dpkg | nvidia-glx is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx |
| 20:43.24 | wols | !why is nvidia-glx not in testing |
| 20:43.27 | wols | \amethyst: bah! |
| 20:43.31 | \amethyst | :) |
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| 20:43.54 | \amethyst | fredl: waiting for an xorg transition |
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| 20:44.10 | \amethyst | it was removed to facilitate the transition, IIRC |
| 20:44.25 | \amethyst | (hence the "no old version in testing") |
| 20:44.34 | TheViral_ | I can't connect to my secured router, everythign is entered correctly and it becomes associated with it, it just doesn't do any more than that |
| 20:44.41 | TheViral_ | I think it's not getting an IP from the DHCP |
| 20:44.56 | TheViral_ | and it either won't let me have a static IP or I'm doing that part wrong |
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| 20:45.21 | fredl | Has this been working at all in testing, EVER? |
| 20:45.25 | wols | TheViral_: since you said it works without WEP it'S obviously your WEP setup that's wrong in some way |
| 20:45.30 | jelly-home | passwd (or ezlfi): this channel assumes you have knowledge of unix basics. That includes figuring out which kernel you have out of uname output among other things. My personal opinion is that if you don't, you're not the right person to do upgrades and installations of debian systems. |
| 20:45.35 | wols | fredl: yes |
| 20:45.47 | fredl | I mean the whole reason I installed unstable at some point was that the nvidia drivers in testing didn't work.... |
| 20:45.49 | TheViral_ | wols: well, I have it set up as the other one now |
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| 20:45.57 | wols | fredl: and if you are knoeldegeable enough to run testing it will work right now too |
| 20:45.58 | mavhc | using WEP is wrong anyway |
| 20:46.04 | fredl | that got me in the whole nightmare of having a mixed testing/unstable install |
| 20:46.07 | passwd | jelly-home, you are 100 % right =) im only here because the guy who is helping me out doesn speak english.. |
| 20:46.20 | passwd | so i have to try and get to him with much information as possible =X. |
| 20:46.20 | wols | fredl: no need for that |
| 20:46.30 | \amethyst | fredl: get the last lenny version of nvidia-glx from snapshots |
| 20:46.50 | fredl | amethyst - huh... how to do that? |
| 20:46.58 | jelly-home | !br |
| 20:46.59 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 20:47.05 | TheViral_ | wols: I am not using WEP anymore, I switched over to the other one, can't remember the name of it...gona pass out so tired |
| 20:47.25 | TheViral_ | wols: would be nice to just have this fixed already but I can't figure it out :P |
| 20:47.37 | fredl | knowledgeable enough to run testing? Grrr. |
| 20:47.42 | TheViral_ | wols: I think it has something to do with DHCP on my debian |
| 20:47.48 | wols | TheViral_: no |
| 20:47.50 | passwd | jelly-home, gr8 i appreciate it |
| 20:48.47 | fredl | I'm sensitive about the nvidia drivers, mind you. |
| 20:49.02 | TheViral_ | wols: What would it be if it wasn't my DHCP? |
| 20:49.07 | fredl | they're the focal point of my mixed frustration about Debian/Ubuntu |
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| 20:49.45 | TheViral_ | wols: It's not working for secured and there are a few times it won't recieve the DHCPOFFER...just DHCPREQUEST and DHCPDISCOVER |
| 20:49.45 | fredl | Debian doesn't seem to have a clear focus on the importance of them and Ubuntu doesn't seem to have anything other than cluebies these days. |
| 20:49.48 | jelly-home | fredl: start with http://snapshot.debian.net |
| 20:49.56 | TheViral_ | wols: for unsecured too |
| 20:49.59 | x_link | http://www.blocket.se/vi/14544946.htm?ca=23_10_s |
| 20:50.02 | x_link | opps sorry |
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| 20:50.39 | jelly-home | fredl: in fact, Debian's focus is on freedom which means nonfree drivers will naturally be of less importance |
| 20:50.40 | fredl | jelly-home: ok... |
| 20:51.02 | wols | TheViral_: bad connection then? |
| 20:51.24 | fredl | jelly-home: well that's fine but then the free drivers should IMO provide similar non-buggy functionality |
| 20:51.32 | mavhc | ask nvidia why they aren't Free yet |
| 20:51.47 | jelly-home | fredl: I solved that issue by buying hardware that has free drivers. |
| 20:52.12 | fredl | Hrmm |
| 20:52.17 | fredl | *mumble* |
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| 20:53.35 | jelly-home | fredl: (that means I can't play 3d games on this machine... but hey ;-) |
| 20:53.56 | TheViral_ | wols: I'll show you my iwlist ath0 scan |
| 20:54.36 | fredl | jelly-home: indeed. I like watching google earth on my TV screen |
| 20:55.11 | wols | neato, passwd messages me out of the blue. I tell him not to message and read the channel rules now he swears at me |
| 20:55.12 | TheViral_ | wols: once this internet speeds up.... |
| 20:55.14 | wols | nice people on sunday |
| 20:55.39 | unique | can debian be installed from a floppy? |
| 20:55.51 | fredl | sunday weekend warriors |
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| 20:56.03 | jelly-home | wols: better you than me, I guess :-| |
| 20:56.08 | wols | unique: yes |
| 20:56.27 | TheViral_ | wols: http://pastebin.com/d7eb11cad my router that I cannot conect to is cell 07 |
| 20:56.52 | mrec | hi, does anyone know a good tutorial for how to set up a debian .deb server? |
| 20:57.03 | unique | does debian also come default with that 3d cool things? |
| 20:57.15 | unique | like how the screen moves around.. |
| 20:57.30 | wols | TheViral_: all are on channel 6 or 11. how about ussing a less croweded frequency? |
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| 20:59.40 | TheViral_ | wols: Do you really thing that will make much of a difference? I can associate my interface with it, my iwconfig ath0 will show the ap, the essid, I will have the key in there too but it's like I can't get an IP? |
| 20:59.47 | TheViral_ | wols: think* |
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| 21:01.54 | TheViral_ | wols: oh and my windows connects to it no problem |
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| 21:03.54 | Waki | hi there |
| 21:03.59 | Waki | what's best for the swap partition |
| 21:04.12 | Waki | 1,5xRAM ou 2xRAM ? |
| 21:04.27 | happla | Waki: 1x ram |
| 21:04.51 | Scurz | yes, 1x ram suffices |
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| 21:05.28 | Waki | thanks |
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| 21:05.58 | Scurz | you're welcome ;) |
| 21:06.02 | Waki | but when u got higher nneds than the ram, wouldn't it better to add more swap ? or this might give a bad result ? |
| 21:06.09 | Waki | needs |
| 21:06.13 | h3sp4wn | Waki: It depends how much ram you have as well |
| 21:06.41 | Waki | actually i did 3GB swap for 1GB ram but i'm wondering if it's right |
| 21:06.46 | expose | aptitude search openoffice shows alot more matches than http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=openoffice&searchon=names&suite=testing§ion=all which in fact doesnt show anything |
| 21:06.48 | expose | why is this? |
| 21:06.49 | Waki | so i'm asking to know if i better reinstall |
| 21:06.51 | Scurz | Waki: if you want, it's a solution if you add ram after |
| 21:07.13 | h3sp4wn | Waki: Its not going to affect you negatively having too much |
| 21:07.17 | expose | any, which is the openoffice package to install? the openoffice.org2* packages are all virtuals? |
| 21:07.53 | Waki | alright |
| 21:07.59 | unique | how can i find out about whats on all this cds.. im trying to get debian but dont know which cd i need to download.. |
| 21:08.18 | Scurz | Waki: mm, not so good |
| 21:08.31 | Scurz | Waki: I think. |
| 21:08.38 | mavhc | unique: if you have a decent internet connection on the target machine I'd just get the 150MB netboot |
| 21:08.58 | Waki | i'll try adding more real mem to get to the swap level |
| 21:09.04 | Scurz | Waki: you should extend your swap partition at 3 Gb. |
| 21:09.04 | Waki | thanks h3sp4wn and Scurz : ) |
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| 21:09.08 | thechef | When do the packages for lenny begin to freeze? |
| 21:09.26 | unique | and how does that work, mavhc? |
| 21:09.32 | h3sp4wn | thechef: *guess* at least a years time |
| 21:10.01 | h3sp4wn | thechef: (Its not been specified yet) but there is usually at least 2 years between releases |
| 21:10.28 | thechef | How long does the freeze take? |
| 21:10.55 | thechef | Not the final freeze, just the point when the packages begin to receive fewer feature updates |
| 21:11.00 | mavhc | unique: it downloads what you want to install when you ask to install it |
| 21:11.01 | thechef | and more fixes |
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| 21:12.04 | unique | mavhc: do i need to burn that file on a cd or what do i do with it? |
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| 21:12.34 | mavhc | the iso, burn it as an iso, not just a file added to a cd |
| 21:12.34 | wols | thechef: far in the future |
| 21:12.41 | keram | hello |
| 21:13.18 | keram | i had to shutdown while firefox was still open and when i booted back up firefox would not open |
| 21:13.21 | creative | how can i get repository list 4 debian etch ? |
| 21:13.28 | thechef | wols: mmh okay I'll ask again in a year then :) |
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| 21:13.56 | keram | and now i'm getting the message "firefox is already running but is not responding" but ps aux | grep firefox returns nothing |
| 21:14.06 | wols | thechef: exactly. history tells us sometimes in autumn 2008 probably |
| 21:14.14 | keram | so i cant kill the process because it doesnt exist |
| 21:14.24 | keram | any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 21:14.57 | sirius | Hello. I have set locales to sk_SK.UTF-8, vim is now in slovak language. But if I load slovak.utf-8 keymap, it doesn't work. please, do you have some idea, where should be a problem? |
| 21:14.58 | dotCOMmie | keram there is a lock file you need to purge |
| 21:15.17 | keram | dotCOMmie, where is that located? |
| 21:15.35 | \amethyst | keram: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock |
| 21:15.41 | keram | ok thanks! |
| 21:15.41 | dotCOMmie | keram: /.mozilla/firefox/default.*/ something |
| 21:15.42 | fredl | argh. So I downloaded two nvidia-glx deb's from snapshot.... tried both. The version of the kernel module I built with m-a seems to match with 100.14.19-1 so I install nvidia-glx_100.14.19-1_i386.deb |
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| 21:15.49 | \amethyst | keram: assuming your profile is named "default" (that's the default) |
| 21:16.04 | fredl | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.04 | fredl | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.06 | keram | alright |
| 21:16.09 | keram | its working now |
| 21:16.31 | fredl | how on earth can I have an older xserver-xorg-core on my system. |
| 21:16.49 | dotCOMmie | ixeweasel/firefox should be able to take a flag to purge that shit |
| 21:16.52 | fredl | (than the one that obsolete nvidia-glx requires) |
| 21:16.54 | dotCOMmie | its annoying |
| 21:17.11 | wols | fredl: that one is from sid. |
| 21:17.12 | maxamillion | dotCOMmie: then why don't you add in the feature and submit it upstream? |
| 21:17.27 | wols | fredl: do a simple sid backport of the nvidia drivers |
| 21:17.29 | fredl | wols - yeah so how can a snapshot nvidia-glx depend on it? |
| 21:17.49 | wols | fredl: cause the nivida-glx is from sid, as I said |
| 21:17.55 | DustyBin | i found a kde4 live CD if anyone wants to test out kde4: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ |
| 21:18.09 | dotCOMmie | maxamillion: no time |
| 21:18.19 | fredl | huh? oh... that's not a lenny snapshot that I found then? |
| 21:18.33 | fredl | or is there no such thing? |
| 21:18.40 | wols | fredl: there is |
| 21:18.46 | maxamillion | dotCOMmie: then bitch less |
| 21:19.18 | fredl | well I'll go poke on snapshot.debian.org again then... |
| 21:19.27 | \amethyst | snapshot.debian.NET |
| 21:19.35 | fredl | oh yeah |
| 21:19.37 | fredl | that |
| 21:19.44 | \amethyst | it's unofficial :) |
| 21:19.51 | dotCOMmie | maxamillion: Luckily I have my asbestos suit on. |
| 21:19.56 | fredl | see I found http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/09/23/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/ |
| 21:20.21 | \amethyst | fredl: 9/23 might be too recent |
| 21:20.26 | maxamillion | -.-; |
| 21:20.30 | fredl | my logic for choosing the http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/09/23/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-glx_100.14.19-1_i386.deb was because the kernel driver I made with m-a has that version |
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| 21:21.00 | fredl | hmmm oh I see, I think... |
| 21:21.14 | DustyBin | kde4 is in experimental :D |
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| 21:21.21 | fredl | aha, this is starting to make some sense. |
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| 21:21.47 | wols | fredl: and where diy ou get that driver? |
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| 21:23.15 | fredl | driver? well I built it with m-a |
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| 21:24.29 | bliss_ | what is the name or names of software other than xchat that do not require X |
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| 21:24.59 | lbt | I need to get the source for a particular version of a package. Specifically the xserver-xorg. I tried : apt-get -V source xorg-server=1:7.1.0-19 |
| 21:25.11 | lbt | but got: E: Unable to find a source package for xorg-server |
| 21:25.34 | lbt | just: apt-get source xorg-server |
| 21:25.44 | lbt | works but gets the 'wrong' version |
| 21:26.09 | gravity | lbt: You want the source to xserver-xorg-core |
| 21:26.11 | xst | I would like to upgrade my server from sarge to etch, but in my current sarge setup I compiled my own kernel to support RAID and my Promise-TX SATA controller. How can I make sure that the upgraded kernel also supports this? |
| 21:26.20 | hinoglu | hi, installing python by apt-get install , i have 2.3 2.4 and 2.5 installed on my system, i have linked /usr/bin/python to python2.5, but when i want to install further packages like python-mysqldb i get this warning like "already installed on your system" which is true for python2.4 |
| 21:26.29 | gravity | lbt: You can get it from packages.debian.org easily |
| 21:26.42 | hinoglu | how can i use the modules installed for other versions from the python2.5 ? |
| 21:26.46 | \amethyst | bliss_: irssi, epic4, scrollz, sirc, ircii |
| 21:26.49 | wols | xst: compile a 2.6 kernel now |
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| 21:26.57 | lbt | gravity: hmm. man page said append =version |
| 21:27.10 | lbt | any idea why that's not working for apt-get source? |
| 21:27.24 | lbt | gravity: (but ta I'll do that too :) ) |
| 21:27.33 | SantaHatesRetard | how do i permanently set an interfaces ip? |
| 21:27.37 | gravity | lbt: Do you have deb-src entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 21:27.39 | wols | lbt: are you sure your requested versin is in the repos? |
| 21:27.42 | bliss_ | \amethyst: thanks |
| 21:27.53 | wols | SantaHatesRetard: man interfaces |
| 21:28.11 | xst | wols: Aren't there some way to tell which hardware that is supported in the default kernel in etch? |
| 21:28.19 | lbt | I had already updated sources.list to include deb-src |
| 21:28.22 | lbt | and did an update |
| 21:28.27 | bliss_ | \amethyst: are they all pretty stright forward to use? |
| 21:28.30 | wols | xst: sure. check its config file |
| 21:28.31 | lbt | the required version shows in aptitude |
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| 21:28.44 | \amethyst | bliss_: assuming you know IRC commands |
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| 21:29.02 | wols | xst: what raid driver? |
| 21:29.03 | lbt | I realise that xserver-xorg is built by the xserver-xorg-core package too. |
| 21:29.12 | fredl | So.... I think I need an older kernel in order to be able to build an older kernel module for nvidia in order to be able to install a snapshot nvidia-glx, does that sum it up? |
| 21:29.13 | xst | wols: ok, but where do I find the config file for the kernel in etch? |
| 21:29.16 | \amethyst | bliss_: some of them have more or fewer features like split windows, scripting, multiple-server support, and so on |
| 21:29.22 | wols | fredl: no |
| 21:29.25 | gravity | lbt: No, it's not |
| 21:29.36 | gravity | lbt: xserver-xorg is built by the xorg package. xserver-xorg-core is built by the xorg-server package |
| 21:29.45 | wols | xst: packages.debian.org in the kernel package for example |
| 21:29.51 | gravity | It's confusing and they'll be unified one day, but not today |
| 21:29.56 | bliss_ | \amethyst: well i have only used xchat so maybe take a manual from one and have a read |
| 21:30.13 | jabka | how can i download packages automaticly with dependecis for a diffrent arch ? for example if i use AMD64 and i need i386 |
| 21:30.16 | BaD-Acer | hey guys, i have a quick question about the debian/lenny debian-installer. will i be able to install debian wirelessly using the netinst iso if my wireless adapter is an atheros chip? |
| 21:30.18 | wols | fredl: I told you to make a backport but you didn't want to listen |
| 21:30.22 | \amethyst | bliss_: irssi is pretty popular, but it's probably not the easiest |
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| 21:30.34 | wols | BaD-Acer: no |
| 21:30.42 | lbt | gravity: for me: apt-get source xorg-server >>> Skipping already downloaded file 'xorg-server_1.4.1~git20071212.orig.tar.gz |
| 21:30.57 | wols | \amethyst: lies, all lies! nothing is easier than irssi |
| 21:31.00 | gravity | lbt: Do you not have it in your local directory? |
| 21:31.01 | jabka | BaD-Acer : not if it bcm43xx |
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| 21:31.12 | fredl | I did want to listen but I didn't want to annoy you by saying I prefer everything testing and no backports from sid |
| 21:31.13 | BaD-Acer | wols: any ideas how i might be able to make it happen? my house is 100% wireless. |
| 21:31.29 | BaD-Acer | jabka: it's an atheros chip |
| 21:31.30 | wols | BaD-Acer: download the needed stuff now on a usb stick |
| 21:31.32 | DustyBin | BaD-Acer: how do you secure your wireless? |
| 21:31.35 | lbt | my problem is that appending '=1:7.1.0-19' doesn't work |
| 21:31.45 | wols | BaD-Acer: and for madwifi you need a compiler so you need at least CD1 |
| 21:31.46 | lbt | and it should according to man apt-get |
| 21:31.48 | lbt | (I think) |
| 21:31.50 | streuner | BaD-Acer: USB chips arent supported |
| 21:31.52 | fredl | sid breaks shit, I don't want the system that my kids play DVD's on to break every other day :( |
| 21:31.59 | bliss_ | \amethyst: well i will install a few and see |
| 21:31.59 | streuner | BaD-Acer: (atheros) |
| 21:32.16 | jabka | BaD-Acer: You need the next data : build-essantial m-a madwifi-source kernel-source packages |
| 21:32.19 | streuner | BaD-Acer: check out madwifi.org website whats supported and what not |
| 21:32.21 | BaD-Acer | streuner: laptop wireless is usb? |
| 21:32.31 | streuner | BaD-Acer: no |
| 21:32.52 | \amethyst | lbt: because you have to supply the version of the source package |
| 21:32.57 | wols | fredl: nobody said you should run sid |
| 21:33.09 | fredl | wols - and if I do a simple backport from sid, how many pkg's from sid do I get? |
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| 21:33.25 | wols | fredl: 3. the 3 packages that make up the nvidia driver |
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| 21:33.55 | fredl | hmmm. ok, wanna show me how? |
| 21:33.55 | wols | and all you have to fetch is one source package |
| 21:34.13 | wols | get the nvidia-graphics-driver and buildpackage it, that's it |
| 21:34.30 | wols | fredl: and as I said before: someone running testing is suppsoed to know that himself :) |
| 21:34.37 | valdyn | + maybe nvidia-settings |
| 21:34.44 | wols | or at least be able to find out |
| 21:34.53 | lbt | \amethyst: but the source package is xserver-org ... |
| 21:34.53 | SantaHatesRetard | thx wols |
| 21:35.00 | wols | valdyn: what good is that for? never really used it I think |
| 21:35.12 | streuner | BaD-Acer: basically you have two options: 1) madwifi which is open-source, but only HAL is not opensource, 2) ndiswrapper |
| 21:35.18 | valdyn | wols: not much i believe |
| 21:35.21 | lbt | sorry, xorg-server |
| 21:35.33 | SantaHatesRetard | how do i start an application when gnome starts? |
| 21:35.34 | \amethyst | lbt: nm, I think I misunderstood you |
| 21:35.36 | wols | BaD-Acer: and both ways you need CD1 and get stuff via usb stick |
| 21:35.43 | streuner | BaD-Acer: madwifi.org has supported chipsets about |
| 21:35.43 | \amethyst | SantaHatesRetard: add it to your session |
| 21:35.54 | SantaHatesRetard | .Xsession in home directory? |
| 21:35.59 | valdyn | wols: reading sensors, changing clockspeed |
| 21:36.18 | wols | valdyn: the sensors sound nice but not with nvidia tools displaying it :) |
| 21:36.23 | \amethyst | SantaHatesRetard: run gnome-session-properties, Startup Programs tab, Add button, the put in the information |
| 21:36.35 | red_ | I'm looking for a mailing list manager-type software but it really only needs to be able to facilitate the management of alias lists that I control the subscription for. |
| 21:36.41 | valdyn | wols: gkrellm used to read them out by using nvidia-settings |
| 21:36.47 | red_ | i.e. something@example.com goes to a list of people that I define. |
| 21:36.47 | lbt | \amethyst: I think I may have gotten confused myself with xserver-xorg xorg-server and various other permutations. I'll go and review it all!!! |
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| 21:37.41 | red_ | This is all opt-in of course but the tools I've seen around are all much more about running Mailing Lists. I don't need any of the subscription or unsubscription tools. |
| 21:37.43 | \amethyst | DustyBin: since the question was how to start an application when Gnome starts, and not how to start an application when your X session starts, I told him the Gnome way to do it :) |
| 21:37.52 | DustyBin | :P |
| 21:37.58 | streuner | BaD-Acer: if you lucky ath_pci (which is in the default kernel) supports your wireless-card |
| 21:38.07 | fredl | wols - should I get nvidia-graphics-drivers with apt-get source ? |
| 21:38.14 | fredl | I guess not huh? |
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| 21:38.41 | fredl | coz I'd be getting the lenny one then (or since that probably doesn't exist yet I won't get any) |
| 21:38.42 | wols | fredl: your guess is wrong. you should get it that way cause otherwise you won't get it at all |
| 21:38.58 | wols | told you to get it from sid |
| 21:39.17 | fredl | *nod* so how do I override what's in source.list then? |
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| 21:39.52 | jabka | fredl: if i understand what you need just comment them (add # before lines) |
| 21:40.17 | RickyWh | ron paul hit his 12 million dollar donation mark |
| 21:40.23 | wols | !tell fredl about simple sid backport |
| 21:40.35 | stew | RickyWh: wrong channel |
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| 21:41.23 | RickyWh | k |
| 21:42.05 | fredl | does ron paul even make a real chance? |
| 21:42.14 | fredl | it'd surprise me... |
| 21:42.15 | BaD-Acer | interesting, i'm downloading the lenny netinst iso now |
| 21:42.58 | streuner | BaD-Acer: any idea what chipset you have? |
| 21:43.00 | fredl | @()#($)%*%^()* I can't f'ing win! |
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| 21:43.20 | fredl | apt-get -b source nvidia-graphics-drivers fails |
| 21:43.25 | RickyWh | fredl, people like to say he doesn't have a chance and manipulate the polling figures to swing that way. i think you can even hear people talking about it all over so much that educated people know whats going on |
| 21:43.40 | BaD-Acer | streuner: i'm in vista now. new laptop. let me see if i can figure it out. |
| 21:43.46 | stew | RickyWh: fredl: please take the political discussion elsewhere |
| 21:44.02 | fredl | alright, n/p |
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| 21:44.08 | fredl | I'll take it nowhere :) |
| 21:44.28 | streuner | BaD-Acer: well, just use that info in madwifi.org (supported chipsets) |
| 21:44.40 | fredl | now look what you got me into wols! the apt-get -b source nvidia-graphics-drivers fails :) |
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| 21:44.59 | fredl | be carefull man I know where your house lives ;) |
| 21:45.01 | wols | BaD-Acer: the netinst won't help you. lacks the build envoronment you will need |
| 21:45.02 | BaD-Acer | atheros ar5005g chip |
| 21:45.12 | wols | !tell fredl about errors |
| 21:45.31 | fredl | haha ok you asked for it :) |
| 21:45.42 | BaD-Acer | lemme look on Madwifi.org for info. |
| 21:46.15 | fredl | http://pastebin.ca/819294 |
| 21:46.20 | streuner | BaD-Acer: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros#AtherosAR5005G |
| 21:46.42 | fredl | (last line is the command I used, I pasted the last bunch of lines from the output) |
| 21:47.16 | fredl | it seems the package build tries to download something from download.nvidia.com and uncompress it but that fails |
| 21:47.17 | wols | fredl: huh? it couldn't even extract since your download went fubar for some reason |
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| 21:47.37 | \amethyst | either that or you're out of disk space |
| 21:47.50 | fredl | d'oh |
| 21:48.06 | fredl | the latter |
| 21:48.09 | RickyWh | stew, alright |
| 21:48.24 | fredl | son of a B my computer hates me! |
| 21:48.33 | BaD-Acer | streuner: funny. i just got to that page when you pasted the url. mixed results surely vary. i put my ubuntu 7.10 cd in and it works fine there under 'restricted drivers'. whatever that is. |
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| 21:50.08 | streuner | BaD-Acer: non-free and supported, non-free because HAL isnt opensource |
| 21:50.40 | maddash_ | why do I ALWAYS LOSE?! |
| 21:50.53 | streuner | BaD-Acer: but that should work in Debian as well ™;-) |
| 21:51.11 | streuner | BaD-Acer: "I can confirm that this chipset works great with the madwifi-ng drivers on Debian Testing. Also monitor mode." |
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| 21:51.22 | BaD-Acer | streuner: i saw that. :) |
| 21:52.16 | BaD-Acer | streuner: this is just a test toy laptop from work anyways. so i'm gonna install lenny on it then dist-upgrade to sid |
| 21:52.56 | streuner | !win maddash_ |
| 21:52.57 | dpkg | Congratulations, maddash_! You have won the US presidency! |
| 21:53.06 | streuner | here we go :-) |
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| 21:53.35 | streuner | !moo |
| 21:53.35 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 21:53.44 | fredl | didn't he have to buy a toothbrush first to win the US presidency? |
| 21:54.01 | fredl | ok ok I'll shut up! |
| 21:54.11 | |DuReX| | Hellow, i just wanted to switch from Highpoint driver to the open-source driver sata_mv, but i'm getting errors, only 1 disks is accessible :( |
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| 21:55.04 | |DuReX| | http://pastebin.com/d372a4b1a <- this is dmesg :) |
| 21:55.54 | fredl | wols, I built three debs now, nvidia-glx_100.14.19-1_i386.deb nvidia-kernel-source_100.14.19-1_i386.deb and nvidia-glx-dev_100.14.19-1_i386.deb should all three be installed with dpkg? |
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| 21:57.03 | wols | !tell fredl about nvidia_post_etch |
| 21:57.07 | fredl | wols because the just built nvidia-glx_100.14.19-1_i386.deb gives an error message when I try to install it: nvidia-glx depends on xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.4); however: Version of xserver-xorg-core on system is 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12 |
| 21:57.43 | wols | fredl: then you might need to edit the deps in the source before building |
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| 21:59.07 | fredl | you must love me if you want to keep me this busy :P |
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| 21:59.58 | fredl | would that be in debian/rules in the source? |
| 22:00.09 | kantor | why If I try to read for instance 5 MB from the beginning of a CD with the dd command the elapsed time is similar with the time if I tried to read 5 MB from the end of the CD (outer side) |
| 22:00.49 | fredl | nah debian/control |
| 22:00.52 | maddash_ | kantor: because that's the way it should be? |
| 22:01.11 | wols | fredl: just grep for the version and change it :) |
| 22:01.13 | maddash_ | maddash get the fuck off my nick |
| 22:01.32 | abrotman | uhm .. he's registered ? |
| 22:01.48 | maddash_ | no, I'm the real maddash -- I don't know who this other one is |
| 22:01.57 | abrotman | he's registered to nickserv |
| 22:02.02 | wols | maddash_: the one who has the identified nick is the irght one |
| 22:02.04 | streuner | [maddash] is identified to services |
| 22:02.09 | maddash_ | no no no |
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| 22:02.12 | maddash_ | want proof? |
| 22:02.13 | abrotman | yes yes yes |
| 22:02.24 | |DuReX| | nobody ? :( |
| 22:02.27 | abrotman | do you know the password for maddash ? |
| 22:02.30 | wols | abrotman: it's a ghost |
| 22:02.36 | kantor | madclicker, if you read from the outer side the transfer rate must to be higher because the rotational speed is constant, but the amount of data is greater. This is the constant angular velocity |
| 22:02.37 | wols | lingering on after his last disconnect |
| 22:02.40 | maddash_ | abrotman: yeah, you wish |
| 22:02.41 | abrotman | then fucking learn how to use nickserv |
| 22:03.01 | maddash_ | abrotman: I can't even change my nick, genius |
| 22:03.04 | \amethyst | maddash_: did he change your password too or something? |
| 22:03.11 | abrotman | maddash_: learn how to use nickserv |
| 22:03.27 | \amethyst | maddash_: /msg nickserv help recover |
| 22:03.34 | abrotman | and release might help |
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| 22:03.41 | \amethyst | maddash_: /msg nickserv help release |
| 22:03.50 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 22:03.55 | admin_ | I just bought an SD card to play around with, I gotit mounted to my ubuntu laptop, changed the fs to FAT32 as I needed. Then after dissconnecting, using it, ubuntu will no longer mount it, if I try to mount it using the mount command it says bad superblock (the card still works, camera still stores photos and such on it) |
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| 22:04.10 | abrotman | admin_: #ubuntu |
| 22:04.10 | streuner | admin_: #ubuntu |
| 22:04.29 | maddash_ | :6334:16:30:25 <abrotman> maddash: you're arguing with everyone who is telling you that you don't need it |
| 22:04.39 | admin_ | abrotman , streuner , they don't have..any knowledge really :P |
| 22:04.44 | abrotman | great ... learn how to use nickserv |
| 22:04.50 | streuner | !ubuntu |
| 22:04.50 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 22:04.52 | abrotman | admin_: then install Debian .. then come back |
| 22:05.01 | admin_ | sigh, accept stuff dipshit |
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| 22:05.21 | abrotman | accept? you're not using debian? |
| 22:05.24 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 22:05.29 | abrotman | lovely |
| 22:05.32 | piroko | Haha. The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me |
| 22:05.32 | maddash_ | wtf?? |
| 22:05.39 | \amethyst | If people in #ubuntu are too bumb to answer questions. . . |
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| 22:05.40 | abrotman | maddash_: /nick maddash |
| 22:05.46 | abrotman | you have to release and recover |
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| 22:05.49 | \amethyst | maybe that's a reason not to use Ubuntu |
| 22:05.50 | wols | abrotman: it's sunday for you too |
| 22:05.53 | maddash_ | 17:05:33 -- Error: Nickname is already in use. |
| 22:06.06 | piroko | maddash_: They've already told you everything you need to know. |
| 22:06.06 | stew | maddash_: if you are having trouble using nickserv, please ask for help in #freenode |
| 22:06.13 | abrotman | if only i could put "learn how to use nickserv" to music :) |
| 22:06.15 | simonrvn | /msg nickserv ghost maddash passwd |
| 22:06.19 | wols | maddash_: advertising that you're unable to use the nickserv help feature is not a smart idea :) |
| 22:06.33 | piroko | Haha |
| 22:06.38 | maddash | wols: yes, but learning to use it as fast as possible, is. |
| 22:06.48 | simonrvn | "genius" |
| 22:06.54 | fredl | huh dpkg -b expects a DEBIAN/ subdir and not a debian/ subdir? |
| 22:06.55 | maddash | abrotman: , simonrvn, \amethyst: thanks. |
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| 22:07.10 | simonrvn | fredl: yes |
| 22:07.15 | stew | fredl: yes, what are you trying to do? |
| 22:07.23 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 22:07.24 | |DuReX| | Hellow, i just wanted to switch from Highpoint driver to the open-source driver sata_mv, but i'm getting errors, only 1 disks is accessible :( |
| 22:07.26 | |DuReX| | http://pastebin.com/d372a4b1a <- this is dmesg :) |
| 22:07.29 | maddash | kantor: no, the reader compensates |
| 22:07.30 | fredl | rebuild nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 22:07.32 | simonrvn | 'Hello' |
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| 22:07.40 | nascentmind | hi |
| 22:07.48 | maddash | kantor: the idea is to ALWAYs give a uniform speed on read and writes |
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| 22:08.14 | fredl | I got it with apt-get -b source nvidia-graphics-drivers but need to tweak the control file so it won't depend on xserver >= 1.4 anymore |
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| 22:08.39 | fredl | trouble is I can't edit it and do apt-get -b again because it will overwrite it :) |
| 22:08.39 | wols | fredl: why are you chaning the directory name then? |
| 22:08.47 | \amethyst | maddash: CD-ROMs (not audio CDs) are supposed to use constant angular velocity, not constant linear velocity which is what you describe |
| 22:08.53 | fundesktop | how can I use MESA for OpenGL if the x server couldn't load GLX? |
| 22:08.54 | wols | fredl: just run dpkg-buildpackage (it's what I ususally do) |
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| 22:09.06 | fredl | I'm not changing anything, I just did a quick search on how to rebuild that deb |
| 22:09.10 | fredl | oh alright |
| 22:09.20 | wols | fundesktop: you can't. what video driver do you use? |
| 22:09.37 | fundesktop | wols: currently "nv" |
| 22:09.41 | stew | fredl: /msg dpkg source |
| 22:09.56 | wols | fundesktop: load glx, it's the mesa GL |
| 22:09.58 | fundesktop | wols: but I guess the GLX driver is from the nvidia closed source driver |
| 22:10.07 | wols | fundesktop: but it's only software 3D. not very useful |
| 22:10.10 | nascentmind | i get this error --> hda: dma timeout error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } during boot. Is it normal? |
| 22:10.10 | kantor | maddash, so this is related to the kernel ? because in windows I tested it with nero cd speed and there the transfer rate increases at the outer side of the disc , but in Linux it's a constant (I really like to know this because I'm developing such an application ) |
| 22:10.18 | wols | fundesktop: then unstinall the nvidia drivers |
| 22:10.32 | wols | fundesktop: or use them if you actually want 3D support |
| 22:10.51 | fundesktop | wols: I currently don't use them, because of nasty crashes (http://rafb.net/p/mKvpzx58.html) |
| 22:11.10 | GreaseMonkey | fundesktop, if it doesn't work, there's a few tricks you can do |
| 22:11.12 | maddash | \amethyst: you're right for the newer drives, but wrong for the older one. |
| 22:11.14 | GreaseMonkey | is it an AGP card? |
| 22:11.18 | maddash | ones* |
| 22:11.21 | fundesktop | GreaseMonkey: no |
| 22:11.21 | schitzo | hello |
| 22:12.12 | fredl | wols, when I edit debian/control and change the 1.4 to 1.3, and then dpkg-buildpackage, the control file automatically gets altered somehow |
| 22:12.13 | wols | fundesktop: what nvidia driver version? maybe try another one? |
| 22:12.20 | schitzo | unsure |
| 22:12.23 | GreaseMonkey | bugger... |
| 22:12.41 | GreaseMonkey | what's your card model? |
| 22:12.51 | fundesktop | wols: the newest (100.14.19), but I suspect it's because I run it on Linux 2.6.23, which maybe is too new... |
| 22:13.03 | \amethyst | maddash: I assumed it wasn't that old, perhaps a bas assumption |
| 22:13.06 | \amethyst | bad |
| 22:13.22 | fundesktop | GreaseMonkey: GeForce 8500 GT |
| 22:13.27 | GreaseMonkey | k... |
| 22:13.32 | wols | nascentmind: this is not normal and usually says "this harddisk is dead, buy a new one" |
| 22:13.36 | streuner | schitzo: change to the other half ;-) |
| 22:13.40 | fundesktop | and actually, the driver works fine... it just crashes sometimes, which makes it unusable |
| 22:13.50 | GreaseMonkey | hmm... |
| 22:13.51 | fredl | the simple backport turns out to be not so simple :P |
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| 22:13.57 | GreaseMonkey | mine used to crash like crazy |
| 22:13.57 | nascentmind | wols, but my harddisk is working fine |
| 22:14.17 | fundesktop | GreaseMonkey: when it crashes the screen just freezes |
| 22:14.17 | fredl | not that I expected otherwise, everything that's called SIMPLE usually isn't SIMPLE |
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| 22:14.23 | GreaseMonkey | fundesktop, same |
| 22:14.38 | GreaseMonkey | this is my setup for my "Driver" block in my xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/6GKL8G98.html |
| 22:14.43 | GreaseMonkey | but i have an AGP card |
| 22:14.44 | fredl | Simple Network Managemenr Protocol.... |
| 22:14.52 | GreaseMonkey | although you COULD possibly try it... |
| 22:15.04 | \amethyst | fredl: don't forget SMTP |
| 22:15.05 | wols | fredl: you need to change control.in |
| 22:15.05 | GreaseMonkey | (the NvAGP bit) |
| 22:15.10 | fundesktop | GreaseMonkey: I didn't use "UseFBDev" or "NvAgp" |
| 22:15.19 | fredl | Simple Object Access Protocol.... |
| 22:15.24 | wols | nascentmind: a harddisk with seek errors rarely if ever is |
| 22:15.25 | GreaseMonkey | hmm... |
| 22:15.26 | fundesktop | GreaseMonkey: I guess your card is AGP? |
| 22:15.34 | wols | nascentmind: run a smarmontools lont test |
| 22:15.35 | GreaseMonkey | yes, it is, i said it is |
| 22:15.43 | fundesktop | ok |
| 22:15.56 | GreaseMonkey | how long does it take before you crash? |
| 22:16.03 | GreaseMonkey | it used to take about a minute for me |
| 22:16.06 | \amethyst | fredl: finite simple groups |
| 22:16.16 | fundesktop | GreaseMonkey: for me it worked maybe some hours... |
| 22:16.20 | GreaseMonkey | k |
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| 22:16.26 | nascentmind | wols, what package is it? |
| 22:17.02 | fredl | whooot! |
| 22:17.07 | fredl | you rock wols |
| 22:17.37 | fredl | I hope you make the big money coz I do and you know far more than I do :P |
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| 22:17.55 | abrotman | nascentmind: it might be working fine now .. but usually that's a sign of impending doom (or a DMA issue) |
| 22:18.40 | wols | nascentmind: smartmontools |
| 22:19.01 | fredl | wols - that was a somewhat disguised 'thank you' |
| 22:19.10 | nascentmind | abrotman, it is a dma issue i guess. |
| 22:19.16 | abrotman | nascentmind: not likely |
| 22:19.32 | nascentmind | abrotman, mines a toshiba drive. |
| 22:19.36 | \amethyst | fredl: you could send him some of your big money :) |
| 22:19.37 | fredl | wols - and an even better disguised 'I'm sorry for being such an a'hole about it' :) |
| 22:19.40 | abrotman | i don't think it matters .. |
| 22:19.45 | abrotman | and i don't think toshiba makes HDDs |
| 22:20.02 | fredl | \amethyst, I could indeed! |
| 22:20.31 | fredl | if the tax department doesn't steal it first. |
| 22:20.34 | nascentmind | abrotman, yes it does |
| 22:20.54 | Tramp | abrotman: I think the small HDDs in Media-Players (1,8''?) are exclusively Toshiba |
| 22:21.11 | wols | abrotman: they make tons |
| 22:21.20 | wols | \amethyst: thank yous are cheaper |
| 22:21.25 | abrotman | nascentmind: i'd back up your data .. 99% of the time .. it's going to be a dead drive in a little bit |
| 22:21.46 | nascentmind | i used to get this error only from debian |
| 22:21.56 | |DuReX| | where can i find kernel dev team ? |
| 22:22.03 | nascentmind | never got this error on gentoo.. before |
| 22:22.16 | wols | DustyBin: LKML |
| 22:22.25 | \amethyst | fredl: At least it's not 1952: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States#History_of_progressivity_in_federal_income_tax |
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| 22:23.21 | \amethyst | fredl: oh, you're Dutch, nm :) |
| 22:23.25 | abrotman | nascentmind: okay .. then fix your DMA .. i'm just telling you it's usually a bad sign |
| 22:23.46 | nascentmind | abrotman, how do i fix my dma? |
| 22:23.54 | abrotman | !dma |
| 22:23.54 | dpkg | rumour has it, dma is (Direct Memory Access) PCs have DMA channels that allow certain devices to directly access memory in order to speed up the process. to turn on dma, hdparm -d1 /dev/hda. to make it permanent, edit /etc/hdparm.conf |
| 22:24.03 | |DuReX| | wols: and on IRC ? |
| 22:24.49 | nascentmind | abrotman, i have already set my dma to 1. |
| 22:24.50 | GreaseMonkey | DMA is actually slower than IRQ, but your CPU slows down to a crawl during IRQ. |
| 22:24.50 | stew | |DuReX|: which team do you mean specifically? |
| 22:25.00 | |DuReX| | that makes linux kernel |
| 22:25.00 | abrotman | nascentmind: then try turning it off? |
| 22:25.06 | abrotman | nascentmind: otherwise .. backup your data |
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| 22:25.32 | stew | |DuReX|: try #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:25.41 | |DuReX| | need jeff garzik |
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| 22:30.09 | fredl_ | wheee my xserver runs again~ |
| 22:30.09 | creature | Hello. Every so often my X display goes a little nuts and overlay mode stops working. Any app that tries to use it (luvcview, tvtime, mplayer) ends up outputting something like this: http://ethicsgirls.com/stuff/screenshot-crazyvideo.jpg . How do I stop this happening, and how do I fix it now it's happened without an X restart? |
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| 22:30.55 | simmerz | I've got an nfs server that I can mount an export locally, but I can't mount it from a remote machine. I can ping the nfs server fine, but I get no response at all trying to mount it |
| 22:31.24 | peter_ | how to unrar file under console ? |
| 22:31.50 | streuner_ | unrar <file> |
| 22:31.52 | creature | unrar x <filename> |
| 22:31.59 | Tramp | simmerz: do you have portmapper and statd running on the client (nfs-common start) |
| 22:32.10 | simmerz | Tramp: ah, possibly not |
| 22:32.19 | peter_ | thanks |
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| 22:33.23 | simmerz | Tramp: in fact definitely not |
| 22:33.25 | simmerz | thanks for that |
| 22:33.29 | Tramp | np |
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| 22:36.49 | sdubois92 | I installed apache2, but it isnt working. I changed the Document Root and restarted but when i try to view the page it doest work |
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| 22:37.00 | minerale | how do I mount a cd manually? |
| 22:37.10 | minerale | what's the type... iso something |
| 22:37.36 | Tramp | !tell sdubois92about doesnt work |
| 22:38.04 | sdubois92 | Tramp: ok, the page is not found |
| 22:38.32 | Tramp | sdubois92: and you checked error and access log? |
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| 22:39.06 | abrotman | minerale: mount -t iso9660 /dev/<Device> /<MountPoint |
| 22:39.58 | sdubois92 | Tramp: both are blank |
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| 22:42.35 | Tramp | sdubois92: grep ErrorLog /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
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| 22:44.30 | sdubois92 | Tramp: i have it set to /var/log/apace2/error.log |
| 22:45.28 | Tramp | sdubois92: I suppose it's "apache2" not "apace2". So you get a "Not found" in the browser and this file is empty? |
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| 22:46.44 | jane19 | Hey, I'm trying to compile gtkpod with a new libgtkpod version but when i open gtkpod its showing the old version.. how can i fix this? |
| 22:46.53 | sdubois92 | Tramp: /var/log/apache2/error.log is empty and when i try http://localhost, epiphany sayd ] |
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| 22:47.00 | sdubois92 | says “localhost” refused the connection |
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| 22:47.56 | Tramp | sdubois92: well, just 5 minutes ago, you said not found now you said "refused connection". I'm wasting my time here, if you don't answer the questions properly. |
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| 22:49.42 | sdubois92 | Tramp: sorry for using the wrong terminology, my mistake |
| 22:50.37 | Tramp | sdubois92: run (as root) lsof -nitcp:80. What do you see? |
| 22:50.58 | sdubois92 | Tramp: command not found |
| 22:51.02 | sdubois92 | I am root |
| 22:51.32 | Tramp | sdubois92: then netstat -ntlp | grep 80 - and install lsof some day |
| 22:52.31 | sdubois92 | Tramp: netstat returned a new line |
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| 22:53.20 | Tramp | sdubois92: Well. Then your apache is not running - or you changed its port. Restart it. |
| 22:53.46 | steer | Any reason anyone can think of why a root password just suddenly stops working? |
| 22:53.47 | sdubois92 | Tramp: /etc/init.d/apache2 start, correct? |
| 22:53.56 | Tramp | sdubois92: yes |
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| 22:54.37 | sdubois92 | Tramp: when i started apache2, it just brought me to a new line and netstat did the same |
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| 22:55.18 | Tramp | sdubois92: ps -ef | grep apache? |
| 22:55.43 | sdubois92 | Tramp: root 3860 3022 0 17:51 pts/1 00:00:00 grep apache |
| 22:56.14 | Tramp | sdubois92: apache2ctl configtest? |
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| 22:56.38 | sdubois92 | yntax error on line 189 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory |
| 22:58.05 | abrotman | sdubois92: touch /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 22:58.23 | sdubois92 | abrotman: new line |
| 22:58.27 | Tramp | sdubois92: touch this file to create it |
| 22:58.34 | abrotman | sdubois92: now try ot start it agian |
| 22:58.37 | Tramp | sdubois92: now restart apache again |
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| 22:58.46 | Tramp | abrotman: Thank you, I'm fine here. |
| 22:58.51 | abrotman | hi? |
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| 22:59.35 | sdubois92 | Tramp: netstat brought a new line |
| 22:59.43 | Tramp | sdubois92: well, I'm afraid we are confusing sdubois92 with this duplicate support |
| 22:59.49 | Tramp | sdubois92: and? |
| 23:00.06 | sdubois92 | Tramp: “localhost” refused the connection. |
| 23:00.24 | Tramp | sdubois92: netstat?? |
| 23:00.48 | sdubois92 | Tramp: netstat -ntlp | grep 80 brought a new line |
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| 23:01.23 | abrotman | Tramp: me? |
| 23:01.30 | Tramp | ah. and the ps -ef | grep apache still no sign of apache? |
| 23:01.34 | Tramp | abrotman: ah, sorry, yes. |
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| 23:01.44 | abrotman | hehe now who is confusing who? :) |
| 23:02.16 | Tramp | abrotman: *g* ok. - I still don't see, why his apache2 fails to start |
| 23:02.17 | Anoninon | I have 170MB of updates in 41 apps, none of which have any list of changes. Thoughts? |
| 23:02.26 | Anoninon | Yesterday it was 1 update. |
| 23:02.27 | abrotman | Tramp: you just told me to butt out! :) |
| 23:02.31 | abrotman | Tramp: what's the error ? |
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| 23:02.42 | sdubois92 | Tramp: no i need any other packages other than apache2 |
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| 23:02.53 | Tramp | abrotman: none (on apache2 start) |
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| 23:03.14 | abrotman | sdubois92: do you get an error if you `/etc/init.d/apache2 restart` ? |
| 23:03.48 | sdubois92 | abrotman: just a new line |
| 23:04.05 | abrotman | sdubois92: look in your apache error logs |
| 23:04.07 | simonrvn | did you edit /etc/default/apache2 ? |
| 23:04.16 | sdubois92 | no |
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| 23:04.42 | Anoninon | did you echo $null > /etc/init.d/apache2 ;) ? |
| 23:04.47 | sdubois92 | i edited /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
| 23:04.52 | simonrvn | etch, right? |
| 23:04.52 | Tramp | abrotman: he claimed they are empty |
| 23:04.56 | sdubois92 | yes |
| 23:04.58 | sdubois92 | etch |
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| 23:05.33 | mirak | hi |
| 23:05.42 | simonrvn | do you have NO_START=1 or NO_START=0 in it? |
| 23:05.59 | itchi | What a hell http://evil-grin.com/switchlinux3.swf |
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| 23:06.21 | sdubois92 | simonrvn: in sites-available/default? |
| 23:06.28 | mirak | is it hard to create a mirror compiled specially for another CPU ? |
| 23:06.40 | simonrvn | no, /etc/default/apache2 |
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| 23:06.50 | Anoninon | <- Latest stable of Debian, showed 1 update yesterday. Today showing 41 all have no list of changes in "Software Updates". Anyone else get a flood of non-descript updates today? |
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| 23:07.21 | lewis | it seems that after a ProFTPd update a few months ago, my FTP client no longer prompts for overwriting existing files. I heard that this might be something to do with the SIZE command. Anyone have any idea? |
| 23:07.37 | mirak | is there a way to rebuild a mirror with particular compilation options ? |
| 23:07.55 | mirak | localy for my own needs, I am wondering |
| 23:08.00 | itchi | Someone experiences with the NIS & NFS book of O'reilly? I plan maybe to buy it but looks like that this for Solaris |
| 23:08.03 | sdubois92 | simonrvn: it sais NO_START=1 |
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| 23:08.13 | mirak | I would like to have a G4 optimised distribution |
| 23:08.14 | simonrvn | sdubois92: ding |
| 23:08.19 | simonrvn | change it to 0 |
| 23:09.12 | sdubois92 | simonrvn: now what? |
| 23:09.19 | peter_ | hm... I am trying to unrar 600Mb file under console... 30 minutes just past and it still do something |
| 23:09.21 | simonrvn | start the thing ;) |
| 23:09.59 | sdubois92 | alright |
| 23:10.00 | Anoninon | peter_: 600mb is pretty large. have you ever unrared a file of this size before? |
| 23:10.06 | sdubois92 | i think i can get the rest from here |
| 23:10.08 | sdubois92 | thanks guys |
| 23:10.10 | sdubois92 | or girls |
| 23:10.15 | peter_ | Anoninon, not under linux |
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| 23:10.33 | Anoninon | peter_: under the other os did it take much less time ? |
| 23:10.47 | mavhc | usually I get about 350MB in 60 seconds |
| 23:10.52 | amphi | peter_: that seems absurdly long |
| 23:10.54 | mavhc | on 1Ghz cpu |
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| 23:11.03 | peter_ | Anoninon, yes |
| 23:11.04 | mavhc | are you running out of ram? |
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| 23:11.11 | peter_ | amphi, well ;/ |
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| 23:11.41 | Anoninon | Anyone else here using the latest version of Debian ? If so did you get a ton of updates today ? |
| 23:11.44 | amphi | peter_: don't tell me, it's a rar'd avi containing xvid and mp3 ;) |
| 23:12.07 | distatica | I have ALSA installed, and this has been working out fine, however I have one problem. When I run XMMS, espeak cannot load, and when I run a web browser that accesses the sound card for something, then XMMS cannot play, any idea what I can do to get around this? |
| 23:12.10 | amphi | Anoninon: I got a good few in testing |
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| 23:12.23 | peter_ | amphi, avi |
| 23:12.33 | Anoninon | amphi: hrm.. I don't think I have the testing rep. This is strange because none of them have a list of changes. |
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| 23:13.22 | maddash | distatica: tell xmms to use a mixer? instead of the /dev/dsp directly? |
| 23:13.45 | piroko | People are still using xmms? |
| 23:13.48 | Anoninon | I guess I'll just do it. FTW. |
| 23:13.59 | piroko | I stopped using it after gentoo removed it from their repositories :-/ |
| 23:14.01 | simonrvn | distatica: dmix or a "sound daemon" (pulseaudio or jack) |
| 23:14.41 | distatica | simonrvn, ok, I installed jackd, but I don't see any option in xmms preferences to use it, just alsa plugin, disk writer, esound, oss.. |
| 23:15.02 | amphi | piroko: quodlibet ftw ;) |
| 23:15.12 | piroko | amphi: cmus ftw ;) |
| 23:15.25 | simonrvn | distatica: i've been able to do pulseaudio (esd compat) -> jackd |
| 23:15.25 | \amethyst | distatica: you need the xmms-jack package |
| 23:15.30 | Anoninon | my neighbor was spoofing arp like nuts, tried to reject his ip in dhclient.conf = fail. |
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| 23:15.38 | simonrvn | then have xmms use fake esd |
| 23:15.43 | amphi | cmus? |
| 23:15.43 | \amethyst | distatica: or maybe xmms-jackasyn |
| 23:15.57 | \amethyst | I just use alsa's dmix |
| 23:15.58 | simonrvn | yeh that'll work too |
| 23:16.05 | \amethyst | !dmix |
| 23:16.05 | dpkg | dmix is probably an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 23:16.13 | simonrvn | dmix is better in a lot of ways |
| 23:16.42 | simonrvn | jack and pulse can do realtime/lowlat but they still lag a bit |
| 23:16.54 | qrck | aren't the deb packages of debian stable signed by default ? |
| 23:16.59 | simonrvn | (my proc is slow as fuck though ;) |
| 23:17.22 | qrck | cause debsig-verify hangs when i want to install them ... |
| 23:17.47 | ColdCue | gn |
| 23:17.59 | simonrvn | nini |
| 23:18.30 | Anoninon | Anyone else have issues with Desktop->Logout->Reboot/Shutdown hanging/failing ? |
| 23:18.55 | abrotman | in gnome? |
| 23:19.01 | Anoninon | yes |
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| 23:19.08 | Anoninon | it doesn't always hang, about 50/50 |
| 23:19.11 | dutchfish | Anoninon, you could use arptables for that ;) |
| 23:19.13 | abrotman | Anoninon: is there an app that won't exit cleanly ? |
| 23:19.33 | Anoninon | abrotman: not that I'm aware of, I often shutdown with all the apps I've open closed |
| 23:19.43 | abrotman | Anoninon: might be an applet ? |
| 23:19.51 | Anoninon | probably |
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| 23:20.02 | Anoninon | dutchfish: thanks |
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| 23:21.15 | Anoninon | lol I wonder if he was using arpping to spam |
| 23:21.30 | Anoninon | fucking asshat. then my lame isp keeps re-enabling his account. |
| 23:22.02 | Anoninon | for 4 days i gave them this guys ip/mac and all they can say is "our network team is investigating it" |
| 23:22.14 | piroko | Haha. asshat |
| 23:22.20 | simonrvn | sounds like a "that's nice, go away now" |
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| 23:22.45 | Anoninon | well in about 4 days i get to tell them , "my wallet is investigating a new isp" |
| 23:22.53 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 23:22.53 | jelly-home | "networking dept is too busy and we won't even forward them your crazytalk" |
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| 23:22.59 | qrck | one layer more ... |
| 23:23.01 | qrck | lol |
| 23:23.07 | Anoninon | lol |
| 23:23.21 | simonrvn | layer 8? ;) |
| 23:23.41 | jelly-home | you know what's worse than layer 8? |
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| 23:23.49 | simonrvn | what? :) |
| 23:23.54 | jelly-home | layer 9. |
| 23:24.05 | simonrvn | figured. and what's that? |
| 23:24.07 | piroko | Fuck the ISO Model |
| 23:24.13 | qrck | OSI ? |
| 23:24.13 | piroko | Humans? |
| 23:24.15 | simonrvn | OSI |
| 23:24.18 | jelly-home | I guess corporate/policy makers |
| 23:24.21 | piroko | Lol |
| 23:24.23 | piroko | Oops |
| 23:24.23 | simonrvn | layer 8 is humans |
| 23:24.27 | piroko | Freudian slip |
| 23:24.29 | simonrvn | jelly-home: teehee |
| 23:24.46 | qrck | stinky sockets... |
| 23:24.47 | piroko | Layer 9 is subconciousness |
| 23:24.50 | jelly-home | piroko: still, better a Freudian than a pink one |
| 23:24.53 | simonrvn | m{id}g{e}t |
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| 23:25.22 | DilutedReform | hello, i was wondering what would be the debian equivalent of "ipconfig /release" |
| 23:25.26 | DilutedReform | ifdown eth0 isn't doing what i want |
| 23:25.34 | DilutedReform | i need to actually break the dhcp lease |
| 23:25.50 | simonrvn | killall dhclient{3} ;p |
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| 23:26.19 | jelly-home | er, nope, killing it won't make it do dhcp release |
| 23:26.33 | jelly-home | ifdown _should_ have done the trick |
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| 23:26.39 | simonrvn | no i know, hence the ;p |
| 23:26.46 | DilutedReform | hrmm |
| 23:26.56 | piroko | DilutedReform: packetforge? :-D |
| 23:27.11 | DilutedReform | i'm on a verizon fios connection, and for some reason you just can't switch between routers without doing a actual release then renew on the new one |
| 23:27.14 | dutchfish | are there any efforts made by someone of making nf-HIPAC into debian already? |
| 23:27.21 | \amethyst | jelly-home: try rm /var/lib/dhcp/* while it's down maybe? |
| 23:27.43 | jelly-home | \amethyst: not me, DilutedReform, and I don't think so |
| 23:27.51 | \amethyst | doh |
| 23:28.10 | Anoninon | write a lil script that does ifdown eth0 | rm /var/lib/dhcp/* | whatever-else-must-be-done |
| 23:28.22 | jelly-home | that will just lose the client's knowledge of the lease |
| 23:28.56 | jelly-home | DilutedReform: I guess ifuping if back doesn't do much at present time? |
| 23:29.40 | jelly-home | DilutedReform: man dhclient3 mentions a -r option to dhclient3 |
| 23:29.51 | DilutedReform | hmm |
| 23:29.54 | DilutedReform | i'll look into that |
| 23:29.58 | DilutedReform | thanks |
| 23:30.34 | simonrvn | "The -r flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the lease has been released, the client exits." |
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| 23:31.00 | simonrvn | look like we have a weiner |
| 23:31.05 | simonrvn | !win jelly-home |
| 23:31.05 | dpkg | Congratulations, jelly-home! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 23:31.07 | Anoninon | jay ! |
| 23:31.09 | TheViral_ | is tehre a difference between using dhclient and dhclient3? |
| 23:31.30 | jelly-home | 3 is obviously larger than none ;-) |
| 23:31.31 | dutchfish | TheViral_, wins? |
| 23:31.39 | simonrvn | dhclient is v 2.x and upstream recommends not using it |
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| 23:32.20 | jelly-home | simonrvn: that's just because they've stopped maintaining it properly |
| 23:32.21 | TheViral_ | dutchfish: Oh ok, was wondering cause man just shows the same page |
| 23:32.32 | simonrvn | meh. i have to build a usb 2 driver... |
| 23:32.39 | Anoninon | well balls. i don't need a broken dhclient! |
| 23:32.40 | nascentmind | abrotman, i disabled dma. and now the errors are not coming up. |
| 23:32.42 | dutchfish | TheViral_, only if you use samba and wins support -> dhclient3 |
| 23:32.48 | abrotman | nascentmind: you're lucky :) |
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| 23:32.57 | abrotman | nascentmind: i'd still keep an eye out |
| 23:33.00 | nascentmind | i checked using hdparm and it see the dma enabled. |
| 23:33.01 | simonrvn | jelly-home: yeh, there's that, also i think they wanted to stop patching it for exploits and other bugs |
| 23:33.15 | TheViral_ | dutchfish: No samba for me |
| 23:33.19 | simonrvn | kinda lame if you ask me |
| 23:33.23 | jelly-home | bugless software from ISC? Riight. |
| 23:33.23 | nascentmind | abrotman, i am using an acer laptop.. i am seeing people posting the same kind of errors. |
| 23:33.34 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 23:33.59 | abrotman | nascentmind: now you have the solution! albiet .. a crappy one .. it's probably more related to the controller or drive .. i'd post the models of both if you're going to post a solution |
| 23:34.11 | nascentmind | abrotman, i am commenting everything in hdparm.conf. there is no way hdparm is going to put any configs right? |
| 23:34.36 | abrotman | i don't use hdparm :) |
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| 23:35.06 | nascentmind | abrotman, some guys are saying it might be timing problem... in linux kernel they are saying it just checks if the command is supported.. |
| 23:35.22 | nascentmind | abrotman, what do you use to set up your hd's? |
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| 23:35.34 | abrotman | nascentmind: more RAM ? :) |
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| 23:35.52 | nascentmind | abrotman, k |
| 23:36.17 | abrotman | nascentmind: i've seen enough issues with turning it on .. that i don't |
| 23:36.49 | nascentmind | abrotman, this thing never happened before.. i remember that after installing hdparm i was getting this problem.. more specifically after editing the conf file. |
| 23:37.02 | abrotman | maybe it's just a single setting |
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| 23:37.56 | nascentmind | abrotman, i never experienced any data loss or hard disk issues before.. on windows as well as previous linux's on this laptop.. |
| 23:37.57 | nascentmind | yeah |
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| 23:38.36 | nascentmind | i think my hdd is better left to itself. |
| 23:38.40 | simonrvn | hdparm is a mess. gotta be very conservative with it, or like abrotman not use it |
| 23:38.56 | abrotman | yay me! |
| 23:39.05 | dutchfish | hdparm in xen-guest, how a cripled man walks .... |
| 23:39.41 | nascentmind | simonrvn, yes i was quite surprised when i commented all the configs and i still find my dma is still on.. |
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| 23:40.04 | nascentmind | simonrvn, in some forum i read the bios takes care of setting the dma. |
| 23:40.09 | simonrvn | got to set it to off explicitly if you haven't rebooted |
| 23:40.40 | nascentmind | simonrvn, it sets the dma automatically.. after i rebooted. |
| 23:40.55 | simonrvn | ah ok, yeh bios |
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| 23:41.47 | rdavila | hi friends |
| 23:41.56 | rdavila | one question: Anyone know if it is possible to make Sender-based Routing with ssmtp? |
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| 23:45.29 | dutchfish | rdavila, nope, look at postfix for that |
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| 23:46.20 | rdavila | dutchfish, thanks! |
| 23:46.32 | dutchfish | rdavila, prolly there are mor eoptions |
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| 23:46.49 | rdavila | dutchfish, esmtp work fine? |
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| 23:47.13 | rdavila | i'm using 'Gmail for your domain' |
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| 23:48.00 | dutchfish | rdavila, i am not sure about that (think of spam) |
| 23:48.24 | tokemm | hello, does anyone knows how can I make a copy of a 5.0GB DVD into a 4.7GB DVD-R ? |
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| 23:49.47 | fengor | vut away 300MB? |
| 23:49.50 | fengor | cut even |
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| 23:53.59 | jelly-home | transcode? |
| 23:54.10 | jelly-home | !google dvdshrink |
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| 23:54.37 | jelly-home | that dvdshrink thing worked well in Wine last time I tried it |
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| 23:56.52 | tokemm | okay, I'll try dvd shrink |
| 23:56.55 | tokemm | thanks |
| 23:58.51 | jelly-home | DVD-R is more like 4.3GB, btw. |
