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| 00:00.13 | dondelelcaro | (well, at least in unstable; didn't bother to check stable recently) |
| 00:00.15 | pickcoder | if it's a user build, then equivs for mail-transport-agent fix it |
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| 00:00.31 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: right, I'm talking about the Debian packages, though. |
| 00:00.43 | pickcoder | if methods wants to bundle his own build as a .deb then it can't be called exim4 |
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| 00:00.50 | pickcoder | else all hell will break loose |
| 00:00.56 | pythonic | sounds good |
| 00:00.57 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: it could be, actually. |
| 00:00.58 | maddash_ | pickcoder: like? |
| 00:01.27 | pickcoder | versioning conflicts? |
| 00:01.42 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: wouldn't have to happen, unless you picked bad versions for the custom package. |
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| 00:01.55 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: specifically, just a large enough epoch would resolve it all. |
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| 00:02.04 | maddash_ | just wha tI thoguht. |
| 00:02.23 | pickcoder | true, and then you're stuck with that package though, right? |
| 00:02.30 | pickcoder | you can't downgrade to the distro exim4 |
| 00:02.36 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: sure you can. |
| 00:02.49 | wols_ | pickcoder: you always can with enough --force |
| 00:02.51 | IgorSobreira | http://dpaste.com/28599/ , i still didn't found out whats missing here..if anybody knows...... |
| 00:02.55 | pickcoder | wols_: <g> |
| 00:03.11 | dondelelcaro | it actually wouldn't require any forcing, you just specifically select that version |
| 00:03.31 | pickcoder | so the package name would be exim4 and exim4-base? |
| 00:03.36 | pickcoder | not exim4-mybuild |
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| 00:03.41 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: packages always have exactly one name |
| 00:04.03 | wols_ | !tell IgorSobreira about search |
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| 00:04.16 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: all that matters is that the packgae Provides: mail-transport-agent |
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| 00:04.56 | pickcoder | dondelelcaro: true.. so to avoid potential problems it's best to not call it the same as the official package |
| 00:04.59 | dondelelcaro | nothing else really matters (though you may also want to Conflicts: exim4, exim4-base for sanity reasons) |
| 00:05.16 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: there aren't any potential problems, so long as the version is correct. |
| 00:05.31 | pickcoder | I'm confused |
| 00:05.34 | maddash_ | pickcoder: if he doesn't call it the official name, then there WILL be problems |
| 00:05.44 | dondelelcaro | methods: he doesn't have to call it the offical name |
| 00:05.48 | dondelelcaro | s/methods/maddash/ |
| 00:06.01 | pickcoder | all it needs to do is provide mta |
| 00:06.04 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: there's nothing magical about package names. |
| 00:06.16 | pickcoder | dondelelcaro: so when I apt-get install exim4 |
| 00:06.22 | maddash | dondelelcaro: he doesn't, but think of what happens when he tries installing the distro exim4 |
| 00:06.24 | pickcoder | which one will it decide if I have a custom repos? |
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| 00:06.45 | pickcoder | exim4 is in my repos and exim4 is in ftp.debian.org |
| 00:06.59 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: whichever one has the better priority; if the same priority, the one with higher version. |
| 00:07.04 | pickcoder | ok |
| 00:07.14 | maddash | apt-pin is the key |
| 00:07.19 | pickcoder | gotcha |
| 00:07.27 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: but in this case, we're talking about a case where you would specifically install the equivs package with dpkg -i with a large epoch. |
| 00:07.43 | pickcoder | true |
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| 00:07.47 | pickcoder | so it doesn't really matter |
| 00:07.56 | dondelelcaro | pickcoder: apt-get install exim4; in such a case would just be a null-op. [Or, if the equivs wasn't called exim4, it would install exim4 and remove the equivs package] |
| 00:08.30 | pickcoder | I swear I've been through this before. memory is getting bad |
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| 00:09.34 | dondelelcaro | no worries. The main thing to know is that package names aren't magical, and that everything else works through the priority levels that are explained in apt_preferences(5) |
| 00:10.05 | pickcoder | yeah I remember all that now |
| 00:10.17 | pickcoder | I set up a repos for a test distribution |
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| 00:10.58 | pickcoder | maybe one day I'll get back to packaging openqm |
| 00:11.37 | pickcoder | one day when I get free time at home.. heh |
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| 00:12.17 | pickcoder | time to head home.. bbl |
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| 00:14.01 | kawk | Alright, help please. I've set up my two computer's network interfaces so that they use static IP addresses, in the form 192.168.0.XXX. I've installed ipmasq on the gateway computer, and dpkg-reconfiured' it. But, nothing happens on the client computer. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 00:14.29 | abrotman | can the client ping the gateway system? and all have the correct netmask? |
| 00:14.39 | kawk | abrotman: yes |
| 00:14.58 | maddash | kawk: net.ip_forward = 1? |
| 00:15.03 | ruben | Hello, I have a problem with 'hotmail' only, I use postfix + debian and I use spf/sender id/domainkeys and it passes for gmail,yahoo and hotmail, but in hotmail all my mail goes to junk, any idea? what's wrong with hotmail? It detects that my server runs debian linux? :P |
| 00:15.12 | kawk | maddash: hang on, I'll check |
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| 00:18.12 | kawk | maddash: Yep, it's set |
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| 00:19.29 | Tramp | kawk: host 209.85.135.99 on both gateway and client. Is the gateway default-gateway for the client? |
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| 00:19.42 | Tramp | kawk: I mean ping 209..., not host. |
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| 00:21.59 | kawk | tramp: I can ping 209.85.135.99 from the gateway, but not the client. I get "connect: Network is unreachable" from the client. |
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| 00:22.18 | Tramp | kawk: What is default-GW of the client ? |
| 00:23.16 | kawk | Tramp: uhh, how do I check that? |
| 00:23.18 | Tramp | kawk: If you don't have it set, run "route add default-gw <IP of gateway>". Then retry the ping on the client |
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| 00:23.27 | Tramp | kawk: netstat -nr |
| 00:23.51 | Tramp | kawk: you need an entry for "0.0.0.0". That's the default-gateway. |
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| 00:24.21 | kawk | Here: "192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0" |
| 00:24.38 | kawk | Tramp: Is that correct? |
| 00:24.46 | Tramp | kawk: no. The 0.0.0.0 must be first column |
| 00:24.53 | snacky | kawk: hello dear sir |
| 00:25.01 | Tramp | kawk: run the command I gave you above (route add ...). |
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| 00:25.27 | kawk | Tramp: I get "Hostname lookup failure" |
| 00:25.49 | kawk | Tramp: . .. with the command "route add default-gw 192.168.0.119" |
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| 00:26.01 | kawk | Tramp: 192.168.0.119 is the IP of the gateway |
| 00:26.06 | Tramp | kawk: add an entry for the gateway to your /etc/hosts |
| 00:26.12 | kawk | Tramp: done |
| 00:27.23 | Tramp | kawk: Sorry, the command is "route add default gw <IP of GW>" |
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| 00:27.50 | kawk | Tramp: I get "SIOCADDRT: File exists" |
| 00:27.53 | red_ | anyone suggest a good tool for checking a physical disk partition for dead sectors? |
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| 00:28.40 | Tramp | kawk: So do you have an entry in "netstat -nr"? which begins with 0.0.0.0? |
| 00:28.51 | djf_jeff | hi everyone, just one small question, I have installed a -amd64 kernel on my athlon X2 and now uname report my computer as x86_64. but the kernel .deb finish with amd64-i386.deb and I have just i386 applications on my system. so, does my system now run 64 bits or 32 bits? is it correct? |
| 00:28.59 | kawk | Tramp: yes, sorry, I do |
| 00:29.23 | kawk | Tramp: still can't ping outside world, though |
| 00:30.05 | Tramp | So did you have a default-GW all the time? what is the error of ping now? |
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| 00:30.28 | kawk | Tramp: "ping: unknown host google.com" |
| 00:30.33 | abrotman | djf_jeff: dpkg-architecture |
| 00:30.40 | Tramp | kawk: did I tell you to ping google.com??? |
| 00:30.47 | abrotman | djf_jeff: you can have a 64bit kernel with a 32bit userland |
| 00:30.49 | Tramp | kawk: I told you to ping an IP! |
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| 00:30.58 | kawk | Tramp: alright |
| 00:31.00 | abrotman | ip .. name .. what's the difference |
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| 00:31.14 | Tramp | abrotman: yeah .... 8/ |
| 00:31.23 | djf_jeff | abrotman: thank you for the answer, does it change anything, am I better with a 32 bits -686 kernel? |
| 00:31.53 | kawk | Tramp: yay, it works. then all i need to do is set up a DNS server? |
| 00:32.04 | abrotman | djf_jeff: doesn't matter .. both work just fine |
| 00:32.23 | Tramp | kawk: Well, you need to setup name-resolution somehow. How does the gateway resolve? |
| 00:32.25 | abrotman | kawk: set the client DNS servers to your router or your ISP DNS servers |
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| 00:32.42 | kawk | Tramp: using DHCP, I guess |
| 00:32.48 | kawk | Tramp: Hang on a second |
| 00:33.16 | djf_jeff | abrotman: a big thank you for your time! |
| 00:33.44 | abrotman | big?! |
| 00:33.47 | abrotman | how big?! |
| 00:33.55 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:34.01 | maddash | |<-------------------- not to scale ----------------------------------------_>| |
| 00:34.01 | djf_jeff | hehe |
| 00:34.16 | abrotman | seems a little lopsided on the right ... |
| 00:34.40 | maddash | abrotman |
| 00:34.41 | maddash | |<---->| |
| 00:34.42 | kawk | tramp: thank you, very much. it works. |
| 00:35.03 | kawk | Tramp: Thank you again. |
| 00:35.07 | kawk | Peace out. |
| 00:35.07 | Tramp | kawk: ok. np. |
| 00:35.45 | Tramp | kawk: just make sure you really had the default-GW set on the client. The "network unreachable" you reported at some state indicates otherwise |
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| 00:35.48 | Tramp | whatever. |
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| 00:38.00 | dutchfish | hi, i installed squid on a bridge. How do i make iptables portwording squid to the remote proxy from port 80 to 8080, i tried variations of iptables -t nat --sport 80 -i eth1 -d x.x.x.x --dport 8080 but that doesnt work. |
| 00:40.48 | dutchfish | the portforwarding from the lans clients from port 80 to squids port does work however |
| 00:41.21 | dutchfish | running on debian etch 2.6.18-5 |
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| 00:44.05 | Tramp | dutchfish: I don't quite understand, what you are trying to do. |
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| 00:44.44 | dutchfish | Tramp, portforward squids forwards from port 80 to 8080 to a remote proxy |
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| 00:45.29 | DustyBin | do any of you guys admit to owning a debian t-shirt? |
| 00:45.54 | Tramp | dutchfish: from memory I would say, configuring proxy-chaining is a configuration-option for squid |
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| 00:46.30 | dutchfish | Tramp, ow? so i can (somehow) tell squid to use 8080 for his resolves? and how? |
| 00:46.38 | Tramp | dutchfish: squid has to know that it is using a proxy and not fetching the pages directly |
| 00:46.48 | dutchfish | Tramp, yep |
| 00:47.02 | DustyBin | whats the difference between firefoxes own cache and squid ? |
| 00:47.07 | DustyBin | *iceweasels |
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| 00:47.38 | dutchfish | DustyBin, squids cache is shared by all lan clients |
| 00:47.40 | Tramp | dutchfish: huh. I don't know from memory. It's been a while and the squid-config is not exactly trivial. But a short check in the manual will tell you |
| 00:48.01 | DustyBin | dutchfish: all the clients would be using a browser what has a cache anyway, so whats the point in squid? |
| 00:48.15 | dutchfish | Tramp, maybe i overlooked it .. hmm .. read the manual for hours .. |
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| 00:48.57 | peter_ | well... flash on iceweasel under debian sux |
| 00:49.07 | dutchfish | DustyBin, every client will download the first picture in the googles startpage without squid, so basicallt bandwidth ;) |
| 00:49.07 | peter_ | it lags whole etch |
| 00:49.17 | Ace2017 | help, i think i messed something up right royally, i can go into /root |
| 00:49.47 | maddash | Ace2017: "go into"? |
| 00:49.53 | dutchfish | DustyBin, just an example |
| 00:49.53 | DustyBin | dutchfish: so clients will be able to pick up that google image from the squid cache instead of using internet bandwidth? |
| 00:49.58 | Ace2017 | with konqueror |
| 00:50.04 | dutchfish | DustyBin, yup |
| 00:50.08 | DustyBin | i see.. |
| 00:50.09 | Ace2017 | and i can see root's files |
| 00:50.34 | DustyBin | dutchfish: how does squid know if that google image has changed or not? |
| 00:50.43 | dutchfish | DustyBin, imagine 250+ clients doing that, do the math |
| 00:51.00 | maddash | Ace2017: so can I. if you're paranoid, 'chmod o-rwx /root' as root |
| 00:51.14 | HC|Syyyk | DustyBin My bet would be on a CRC comparison |
| 00:51.21 | Ace2017 | paranoid? is it supposed to be that way? |
| 00:51.25 | dutchfish | DustyBin, i dont know exactly, but it just checks ones in a while if the pictures size and date has changed and downloads it again of it has |
| 00:51.37 | DustyBin | i see |
| 00:52.08 | DustyBin | squid wouldnt benefit for a small home LAN |
| 00:52.26 | dutchfish | DustyBin, even then it would on slow sites ;) |
| 00:52.29 | h3sp4wn | DustyBin: It can do if you set it up correctly |
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| 00:52.50 | DustyBin | hm.. |
| 00:53.12 | dutchfish | DustyBin, ever tried those pesky large pdf files again and again? hugh, they now on the screen on hitting the enter key |
| 00:53.16 | DustyBin | snort and squid are the next things i want to mess around with but im unsure where abouts on my network to install them |
| 00:53.31 | DustyBin | dutchfish: aye nice |
| 00:54.01 | DustyBin | i would like snort to be right at the point where my internet comes into my LAN |
| 00:54.10 | DustyBin | otherwise there isnt much point installing it on 1 box |
| 00:54.36 | DustyBin | squid on the other hand could be installed on a server inside the LAN |
| 00:54.40 | dutchfish | DustyBin, snort is nice but it doesnt protect you, only warn you |
| 00:54.57 | DustyBin | yep its only for messing around with to see how it works |
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| 00:55.22 | dutchfish | DustyBin, expect large log files, there are really many sharks outside ;) |
| 00:55.48 | DustyBin | hehe |
| 00:56.15 | DustyBin | should squid be installed on the firewall... pfsense has snort and squid packages |
| 00:56.19 | dutchfish | DustyBin, i am just about building a stealth firewall bridge with a dmz zone |
| 00:56.31 | DustyBin | aye nice |
| 00:56.43 | DustyBin | dmz + vpn = secure wireles |
| 00:56.44 | DustyBin | s |
| 00:57.09 | dutchfish | DustyBin, iptables, ebtables, arptables conntrack .... ouch still lot to learn ;) |
| 00:57.18 | DustyBin | jeeze |
| 00:57.38 | dutchfish | DustyBin, not to mention how to build a honeypot system |
| 00:57.39 | DustyBin | it would be a lot more educational to build the firewall from scratch |
| 00:57.46 | DustyBin | ok |
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| 00:58.00 | dutchfish | DustyBin, dpoing just that |
| 00:58.08 | dutchfish | DustyBin, doing* |
| 00:58.14 | DustyBin | but for now im going to use freebsd based pfsense |
| 00:58.22 | DustyBin | pfsense is a fork of m0n0wall |
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| 00:58.46 | dutchfish | DustyBin, yes, i know, read some good things about it, ut i stick to debian |
| 00:58.53 | DustyBin | ok |
| 00:58.57 | Tramp | dutchfish: I think you have to specify the other proxy with the cache_peer directive of type parent and also a never_direct directive so it is used. |
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| 00:59.30 | dutchfish | Tramp, great, i surely gone try does out, thx! |
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| 01:00.42 | dutchfish | Tramp, next thing will be to make ssl cert for squid and do https also |
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| 01:01.17 | DustyBin | this has 2x NICs, perfect for a firewall |
| 01:01.19 | DustyBin | http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=451 |
| 01:01.21 | dutchfish | Tramp, i wonder if there is a way to let clamav interact with squid .... |
| 01:01.41 | DustyBin | "Its VT6106S and VT6103 Ethernet controllers make it a perfect fit for use as a hardware firewall system." |
| 01:01.48 | DustyBin | mmmm |
| 01:02.09 | Tramp | dutchfish: huh. No idea. giyf 8) |
| 01:02.41 | billybobo21 | my kubuntu splash screen isn't working any more, and no one there knows why... is anyone here kind enough to help? or is this debian-only? |
| 01:02.59 | dutchfish | DustyBin, what i know about nics is they must do checksum offloading, but for the rest it doesnt mather much, iptables will eat the most part of the cpu cycles cake when there are much rules |
| 01:03.11 | dondelelcaro | billybobo21: you want to talk to #ubuntu or #kubuntu, yes... |
| 01:03.13 | iKernel | apt-get moo |
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| 01:03.14 | iKernel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:03.15 | cyberfr0g | yo |
| 01:03.28 | billybobo21 | dondelelcaro: i asked, they don't know |
| 01:03.32 | billybobo21 | thanks tho |
| 01:03.37 | dondelelcaro | billybobo21: try their forums, then |
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| 01:04.21 | billybobo21 | tried that too |
| 01:04.43 | dutchfish | billybobo21, maybe you have installed or compiled new kernel without enable a switch for bootflash? but this is not ubuntu |
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| 01:05.20 | dondelelcaro | billybobo21: pitty; well, not much we can do for you here. |
| 01:05.21 | auto359 | i want to write a script that does X, Y and Z when user A is logged in. is this a scripting issue or more a sysadmin issue? |
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| 01:05.41 | EruditeHermit | hi, is gdm in sid broken? |
| 01:05.41 | dutchfish | !bash |
| 01:05.42 | dpkg | bash is, like, the Bourne Again Shell, and the default debian shell. |
| 01:05.43 | billybobo21 | no idea, new kernel this morning, yes. but the old one isn't listed at bootup... yeah, thanks anyway. |
| 01:05.54 | dondelelcaro | auto359: a script running as that user in their shell's startup scripts will do it. |
| 01:06.07 | simonrvn | EruditeHermit: bts |
| 01:06.10 | dondelelcaro | EruditeHermit: if it was, there'd be bugs filed in the bts. |
| 01:06.12 | auto359 | dondelelcaro: ah cool |
| 01:06.53 | auto359 | dondelelcaro: thaks |
| 01:06.57 | dondelelcaro | np |
| 01:07.02 | auto359 | thanks* even |
| 01:07.40 | tnks | It's been a while since I had a harddisk that was messed up so bad I get a kernel panic upon bootup. |
| 01:07.49 | tnks | it might be hosed, but I'd like to try to repair it. |
| 01:08.00 | EruditeHermit | simonrvn: I can't find anything in there that looks like it |
| 01:08.00 | tnks | what kind of CD, steps should I try? |
| 01:08.04 | cyberfr0g | I'll think about it |
| 01:08.21 | simonrvn | WorksForMe |
| 01:08.25 | EruditeHermit | simonrvn: how do you find bugs against specific versions in the bts? |
| 01:08.30 | tnks | I tried a Debian install disk booting up with "rescue", but when I went to shell, I didn't find fsck. |
| 01:08.34 | dutchfish | billybobo21, debian stock kernels have this switch off by default ... i dont know for ubuntu |
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| 01:09.02 | ahmad` | hello guys |
| 01:09.11 | billybobo21 | ok thanks |
| 01:09.26 | ahmad` | there are 3 DVD's to download to get full debian |
| 01:09.40 | ahmad` | can i use only one and get it working or i have to download all of them ? |
| 01:09.46 | dutchfish | !netinstall |
| 01:09.46 | dpkg | methinks netinst is a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ If you use a dialup connection, ask me about <dialup install>. |
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| 01:10.07 | ahmad` | dialup install |
| 01:10.12 | ahmad` | !dialup install |
| 01:10.12 | dpkg | i heard dialup install is 64kbps are 650MB per day, or ~1.2GB installed size, maybe more than you will ever have installed at once. You will wait few hours for the install to complete, but shuffling those 5290280948 CDs testing has now will probably take even longer, and can't be run unattended. The 1st binary CD is more than you need. See <netinst>. |
| 01:10.15 | simonrvn | EruditeHermit: see source package then check version; dunno if you can in reality |
| 01:11.19 | dutchfish | ahmad`, or this: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 01:12.00 | ahmad` | dutchfish: nope , i'm talking about the dvd's for offline installation |
| 01:12.42 | dutchfish | ahmad`, base or graph workstation? |
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| 01:12.47 | IgorSobreira | wmy $LANG is en_US.UTF-8, but when i save a file with vim, if i "cat" the file, i see strange simbols instead of á ã, etc |
| 01:12.48 | wols_ | Eagleray: ubuntu is nice but it's aimed at novice users and so novice users is what they get, together with the lack of knowledge and experience of new users |
| 01:12.49 | Eagleray | I am having problems with hotplugging USB devices. It works fine on a standard debian kernel, but not on my custom one. I *think* I have everything pertinent enabled, but obviously I am missing something. Any ideas? |
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| 01:13.23 | ahmad` | dutchfish: i want to install it on a few computers 4 or 5 |
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| 01:13.46 | Eagleray | wols_: true... I guess I just figured there would be more active gurus in it, noting what I have seen there... there are a lot of brilliant and talented people who help in that channel |
| 01:14.00 | dutchfish | ahmad`, ok, then you could download a full set or use apt-cache |
| 01:14.07 | Eagleray | wols_: last time I was in #debian it was completely dead |
| 01:14.24 | ahmad` | dutchfish: full set which is around 9GB ? |
| 01:14.27 | wols_ | Eagleray: this I can't believe. this channel didn't go lower than 650 for years now :) |
| 01:14.36 | ahmad` | dutchfish: or there's smaller package ? |
| 01:14.40 | dutchfish | ahmad`, depends on what you want to install |
| 01:14.52 | Eagleray | wols_: interesting, perhaps I was on the wrong network or something |
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| 01:15.04 | dutchfish | ahmad`, and yes a complete debian repo is huge |
| 01:15.10 | wols_ | Eagleray: irc.debian.org is now oftc.net which has fewer users |
| 01:15.37 | CaT[tm] | anyone know what else would use /etc/default/locales? its implementation is broken wrt ssh and I'm trying to decide how to fix it. |
| 01:15.38 | wols_ | Eagleray: so what happens in dmesg if you plug in something? |
| 01:15.44 | Eagleray | wols_: I don;t think I was there, but it's possible I was on undernet by mistake, I'm usually on both undernet & freenode at the same time |
| 01:15.53 | hon | ahmad`: do you want "regular" desktop installations, or you will need some other special stuff? |
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| 01:16.16 | wols_ | Eagleray: thing is you could have a udev problem, and _that_ is very hard to diagnose and fix |
| 01:16.17 | odla | yay! r-base 2.6.1 is going into testing |
| 01:16.20 | wols_ | udev is black magic :( |
| 01:16.32 | Eagleray | wols_: absolutely nothing happens in dmesg |
| 01:16.39 | ahmad` | hon: Apache , compilers ... development programs |
| 01:16.56 | dutchfish | Eagleray, have tried reinstalling locales? |
| 01:17.10 | Eagleray | wols_: I don't think it's a udev probelm, because the same udev setup works perfectly on the sid 2.6.23 kernel |
| 01:17.17 | hon | if you are not in a hurry I recommend building a custom live dvd |
| 01:17.32 | billybobo21 | sarahmark! |
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| 01:18.01 | dutchfish | CaT[tm], you could try apt-get install --reinstall locales |
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| 01:18.46 | Eagleray | dutchfish: no, but why would this help with a hotplug issue? |
| 01:18.51 | ahmad` | ok , thanks for your help |
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| 01:19.03 | dutchfish | Eagleray, so was ment for CaT[tm] |
| 01:19.03 | EruditeH1rmit | simonrvn: my gdm fails to start at startup, but I can login to a vt as root and run the command gdm to start it. Any ideas? |
| 01:19.12 | Eagleray | dutchfish: :-) |
| 01:19.40 | tnks | I found an old Knoppix CD. |
| 01:19.47 | tnks | kind of overkill, but good ehough. |
| 01:19.51 | wols_ | Eagleray: usb shows up in your boot messages from the kernel? |
| 01:20.13 | wols_ | Eagleray: /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm exists? |
| 01:20.25 | hon | ahmad`: and if you are in a hurry, you could start by getting the first cd and see if it has everything you need. if it doesn't have them all, you can either fetch the whole set, or you can do some [hackish] tricks like downloading a set of packages and build a local mirror for yourself |
| 01:20.46 | Eagleray | wols_: USB works fine if it's plugged in when I boot (and shows up) but not if I hotplug |
| 01:20.54 | hon | then you can e.g. put the local mirror on another dvd or on another machine |
| 01:20.58 | Eagleray | wols_: gdm won't exist, it's not installed |
| 01:21.02 | Eagleray | wols_: I'm using kdm |
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| 01:21.13 | wols_ | Eagleray: sorry. was for EruditeH1rmit |
| 01:21.26 | wols_ | EruditeH1rmit: /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm exists? |
| 01:21.48 | wols_ | Eagleray: what did you make a custom kernel for? any special reason? |
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| 01:22.03 | oncoma | morning |
| 01:22.04 | ahmad` | hon: thanks for your help again |
| 01:22.12 | hon | np |
| 01:22.23 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: yes it does |
| 01:22.30 | wols_ | Eagleray: you could always start with the debian kernel config and only change what you need |
| 01:22.43 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: running /etc/init.d/gdm restart from commandline as root doesn't work either |
| 01:22.48 | Eagleray | wols_: mainly because I wanted the 2.6.24 wifi stack, and because I like to have a few nonstandard config options |
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| 01:22.55 | wols_ | !tell EruditeH1rmit about doesn't work |
| 01:23.02 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: but just "gdm" works |
| 01:23.10 | Eagleray | wols_: I prefer to start with an allnoconfig, it's what I do on every other system.... usually works just fine |
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| 01:23.15 | wols_ | Eagleray: then I'd start with the 2.6.23 config and change stuff as needed |
| 01:23.22 | oncoma | i try to compile a new kernel for a few hours now, but every time i geht the error message "waiting for root filesystem". 3 hours ago i was made one and this message didn't come, but i have to change some things and now it comes every boot.. could you help me? |
| 01:23.32 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: running /etc/init.d/gdm restart from commandline as root doesn't start gdm and just sits at the commandline |
| 01:23.52 | wols_ | EruditeH1rmit: but there are errors and especially logs |
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| 01:24.00 | wols_ | Eagleray: never had that problem or seen it |
| 01:24.06 | ttyS1 | Hello, any one knows what is the device I should use at the grub command prompt to boot from usb ? |
| 01:24.12 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: the log says there is a problem with hal |
| 01:24.17 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: one sec while I get it |
| 01:24.18 | wols_ | especially the fact that already plugged in devices work fine but fresh ones don |
| 01:24.20 | wols_ | don't |
| 01:24.54 | dutchfish | oncoma, do you have enough diskspace? |
| 01:25.09 | Eagleray | wols_: the other interesting thing is that udev sees it being removed, (udevmonitor) but not being plugged in again |
| 01:25.25 | oncoma | dutchfish, yeah 29gb free |
| 01:25.26 | dutchfish | oncoma, or have a (almost) broken disk? |
| 01:25.32 | wols_ | oncoma: do you use a initrd? |
| 01:25.33 | Eagleray | wols_: I'll start with the 2.6.23 config if I have to..... it just feels like admitting defeat |
| 01:25.40 | Eagleray | wols_: I'd rather fix what I have than start over |
| 01:25.43 | wols_ | Eagleray: I know |
| 01:25.44 | oncoma | dutchfish, no it isn't broken, another kernel is working |
| 01:26.13 | oncoma | wols_, yes, via update-initramfs |
| 01:26.29 | wols_ | oncoma: that is not the way to to it |
| 01:26.32 | wols_ | *do |
| 01:26.40 | oncoma | wols_ how than? |
| 01:26.46 | oncoma | wols_ sorry for my englisch.. ;) |
| 01:26.52 | wols_ | oncoma: you create your kernel.deb with kernel-package and it will create your initrd as it needs to |
| 01:27.08 | wols_ | no worries, I'm german |
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| 01:27.14 | oncoma | wols_ mah er ;) |
| 01:27.25 | wols_ | how do you compile your kernel? |
| 01:27.36 | oncoma | wols_ mit make && make modules_install |
| 01:27.41 | dutchfish | oncoma, some mantra like: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image |
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| 01:27.57 | wols_ | if you don't use raid or lvm / or things like that, I'd advicse not to use initrd and compile in disk controller dirvers, filesystem drivers and ethernet card drivers |
| 01:28.00 | oncoma | dutchfish, have we already tested but it dont work too |
| 01:28.04 | wols_ | !kp mantra |
| 01:28.04 | dpkg | from memory, kp mantra is make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 01:28.19 | wols_ | use kernel-package. much much nicer |
| 01:28.30 | Ace2017 | whats wrong with initrd? |
| 01:28.36 | oncoma | wols_ ok, festplatten hängen an einem raid-controller aber sind nicht verbunden |
| 01:28.38 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: http://rafb.net/p/q0LaeD39.html is the log, it used to say something about hal, but it no longer does |
| 01:28.50 | wols_ | Ace2017: another point of failure. if you create a custom kernel it should be custom |
| 01:28.59 | wols_ | !de | oncoma |
| 01:29.01 | Ace2017 | good point |
| 01:29.04 | oncoma | wols_ sry |
| 01:29.09 | wols_ | oncoma: what raid contoller |
| 01:29.16 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.48 | oncoma | wols_ puhh, wait an second |
| 01:30.23 | wols_ | EruditeH1rmit: doesn't look like a xorg log to me... |
| 01:30.32 | oncoma | wols_, do you think its cause of that, it has worked before with the same hardware-situation |
| 01:30.37 | wols_ | EruditeH1rmit: every line should start with something like (II) |
| 01:30.45 | wols_ | oncoma: shouldn't |
| 01:30.57 | wols_ | since you don't use the fakeraid as a raid controller |
| 01:31.31 | oncoma | no |
| 01:31.35 | oncoma | i dont use it |
| 01:31.45 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: its a GDM log |
| 01:32.09 | wols_ | EruditeH1rmit: what does your Xorg.0.log say? |
| 01:32.36 | oncoma | raid controller: udma 100, serial ata - 300(raid), wols_ |
| 01:33.12 | wols_ | oncoma: that's meaningless. the model/brand is the important part |
| 01:33.22 | oncoma | intel |
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| 01:33.31 | wols_ | fakeraid then |
| 01:33.45 | oncoma | how? |
| 01:33.54 | wols_ | !fakeraid |
| 01:33.54 | dpkg | fakeraid is probably Term used for controller cards that advertise raid functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a bios ... if you use them with Debian it's suggested that you don't set a raid in the bios and don't use dmraid, just use regular software raid (md). |
| 01:33.55 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: the Xorg.0.log isn't appended to as X doesn't start, so the contents of the Xorg.0.log seem to be from when I startx manually |
| 01:34.04 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: I can paste the contents for you if you like |
| 01:34.14 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: but more interesting is the output of dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 01:34.28 | oncoma | wols_, no bios raid, no dmraid no md |
| 01:34.37 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: Scheduling reload of GNOME Display Manager configuration: gdminvoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed. |
| 01:35.05 | oncoma | wols_ only two ordinary sata hdd, which are connectet over the raid controller |
| 01:35.56 | Eagleray | wols_: just found a kernel config item for 'misc' (in device drivers), so compiling with that enabled to see if it helps any |
| 01:36.15 | wols_ | Eagleray: usb has it's own section usually |
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| 01:36.48 | Eagleray | wols_: yeah I already went through there the first time I compiled for this machine, there are no options left in there that would help as far as I can see |
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| 01:38.10 | oncoma | wols_ at the moment, I try it with kernel 2.6.18, maybe!? |
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| 01:38.49 | wols_ | oncoma: sure you can. you can get a .22 from backport too. and maybe kmuto even has a .23 |
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| 01:39.49 | oncoma | wols_ beacuse i need to compile an individual because i need the layer7-patch |
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| 01:43.16 | EruditeH1rmit | wols_: shall I paste the Xorg.0.log? |
| 01:43.27 | hoodlum_ | yep |
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| 01:49.38 | EruditeH1rmit | here it is http://rafb.net/p/vLkqFl32.html |
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| 01:56.13 | EruditeHermit | did the channel die? |
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| 01:57.26 | sander__ | hi |
| 01:57.56 | sander__ | i have problems with my vmplayer... the bridged mode dont works... can some help me? |
| 01:58.37 | sander__ | where are the debian users? |
| 01:59.25 | dondelelcaro | sander__: people are here, though you'd be best served if you asked your specific question. |
| 01:59.28 | Eagleray | sander__: here |
| 01:59.46 | Eagleray | wols_: backgen is back in #ubuntu and his problem is fixed, he's thanking you |
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| 02:00.54 | sander__ | ok, sorry |
| 02:01.37 | sander__ | i cant access my bridged connectin in the vm host and guest... i cant got this work in debian 4 r1... can some help-me? |
| 02:01.52 | sander__ | i cant ping both guest and host |
| 02:03.33 | Eagleray | sander__: can you describe your setup? I'm not familiar with the VMWare bridge as I don't use it, but more info would certainly be useful |
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| 02:06.45 | sander__ | Eagleray: ok... the install is VMware-player-2.0.2-59824.i386.tar.gz... the latest... this have an script automated to install and load modules of vmplayer (vmmon, vmnet)... i installed in debian 4 r1... the same problem happen in the slackware 12 and ubuntu that use 2.6 kernel... before i used slack 11 with kernel 2.4 and i never have any problem with this bridged mode... i cant find anything in google :( |
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| 02:08.18 | sander__ | i think this is a kernel issue.. because in the old kernel, this works normal |
| 02:08.23 | Eagleray | sander__: have you installed bridge-utils? |
| 02:08.33 | sander__ | Eagleray: no |
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| 02:08.39 | homecable | how do i make light httpdlist files in a dir ? |
| 02:08.46 | Eagleray | sander__: then install it |
| 02:08.46 | homecable | how do i make lighthttpd list files in a dir ? |
| 02:09.06 | Eagleray | sander__: not sure about vmware, but most software bridge tools require it |
| 02:09.11 | sander__ | Eagleray: ok, i will install here.. i back soom |
| 02:09.46 | traza | what is the command to see the ctorrent status (I was downloading close the terminal, I got the process running...) but no clue about how to get the status.. to bring the process back to the terminal (jobs -> fg doesnt work) |
| 02:09.57 | kgoetz | homecable: it does it by default |
| 02:10.02 | kgoetz | iirc |
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| 02:13.07 | mrrcp | anyone know of a WEBBASE vpn |
| 02:13.08 | mrrcp | ? |
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| 02:13.29 | sander__ | Eagleray: no.. the same problem continue... cant ping... :( |
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| 02:15.30 | Eagleray | sander__: how are you trying to ping? |
| 02:15.41 | Eagleray | sander__: do your guests have a multicast MAC set up? |
| 02:16.24 | traza | ideas? |
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| 02:16.44 | sander__ | Eagleray: yes.. the ip configuration is okay... host are: 192.168.1.10 and guest: 192.168.1.20 |
| 02:16.51 | sander__ | Eagleray: both cant ping |
| 02:17.02 | Eagleray | sander__: I meant MAC addresses, not IP addresses |
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| 02:17.31 | Eagleray | sander__: try assigning the guest something starting with aa, and ping from the guest to the host |
| 02:17.43 | Eagleray | sander__: does the host have any kind of firewall running? |
| 02:17.53 | Eagleray | sander__: and have you enabled ip forwarding on the host? |
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| 02:18.15 | sander__ | Eagleray: how can i enable ip forwarding? |
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| 02:18.42 | sander__ | Eagleray: the guest have this MAC address : 00-0C-29-4A-48-66 |
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| 02:19.04 | sander__ | Eagleray: the interface driver is: VMware Accelerated AMD PCNet Adapter |
| 02:19.17 | Eagleray | sander__: assign a mac of AA:??:??:??:??:?? to the guest |
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| 02:20.37 | sander__ | Eagleray: how can i assign in linux? |
| 02:21.02 | mrrcp | heheh nothing like pocketputty |
| 02:21.08 | Eagleray | sander__: and run (as root) 'echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
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| 02:21.21 | Eagleray | sander__: to assign a mac, edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:21.50 | Azar | simonrvn: how would you like a christmas gift like this: http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200712/error'd/duh_cam.jpg ? |
| 02:21.51 | Eagleray | sander__: add a line for "hwaddress ether aa:11:22:33:44:55" to the interface you're wanting to change (I assume eth0) |
| 02:22.10 | Eagleray | sander__: you can also use ifconfig to assign it |
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| 02:24.11 | sander__ | Eagleray: ok, wait |
| 02:24.27 | sander__ | Eagleray: i will try here, thanks a lot |
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| 02:26.00 | justus | hello! i just installed the search tool tracker and libdeskbar-tracker on my testing/lenny system. the index is built and i can search with the tracker-search-tool, but deskbar doesn't find any files and there's also nothing about tracker in the deskbar preferences. any ideas what the problem could be? |
| 02:26.09 | optraz1 | hi, this may not sounds like a c program but it is related to the work with c. I'm looking a way to diff a file to a certain portion only. how can that be achieve? |
| 02:26.33 | Eagleray | optraz1: diff|grep ? |
| 02:27.42 | optraz1 | Eagleray: well, i want that patch file to patch a certain program. ihave thought of diff| grep but this would not work in proper patching procedure. |
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| 02:28.24 | sander__ | Eagleray: i put this in the final of the file: hwaddress eth0 00:0C:29:4A:48:66 its okay right? |
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| 02:29.10 | Eagleray | sander__: no, look at what I said earlier - use that *exact* syntax |
| 02:29.12 | sander__ | Eagleray: my host interface is eth0... |
| 02:29.22 | Eagleray | sander__: mac address can be anything as long as it starts with AA |
| 02:29.39 | Eagleray | sander__: yes, but 'ether' isn't an interface name |
| 02:29.45 | Eagleray | sander__: it's an address type |
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| 02:30.51 | sander__ | Eagleray: hwaddress ether 00:0C:29:4A:48:66 eth0 ok? |
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| 02:32.17 | sander__ | Eagleray: the mac address from the interface installed in the guest os don't start with a AA |
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| 02:32.46 | sander__ | Eagleray: i need put this anyway? |
| 02:32.48 | optraz1 | Eagleray: well, i want that patch file to patch a certain program. ihave thought of diff| grep but this would not work in proper patching procedure. |
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| 02:34.21 | Eagleray | sander__: listen to *exactly* what I am saying, and don't deviate. Add the line "hwaddress ether aa:11:22:33:44:55" to /etc/network/interfaces immediately under the line containing "iface eth0 inet". The mac address can be anything but MUST start with aa. It does NOT need to be the same as your interface's real mac! |
| 02:34.54 | Eagleray | optraz1: then I don't know sorry, only thing I can think of is to write the diff manually |
| 02:35.11 | Eagleray | optraz1: this is what version control is for ;-) |
| 02:35.39 | mrrcp | where can i set a IP list of who can SSH ? |
| 02:35.59 | Eagleray | sander__: I will be back in 30 mins or so, I have a meeting to go to. Just follow the instructions. |
| 02:36.12 | sander__ | Eagleray: ok, now i understand.. sorry.. i will put this under the iface eth0 inet static line.... |
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| 02:36.45 | sander__ | Eagleray: ok, thanks a lot... |
| 02:37.43 | prgmrchris | mrrcp: use hosts.deny hosts.allow or iptables |
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| 03:03.43 | sdubois92 | anyone know what happened to the forums? |
| 03:03.52 | optraz1 | anyone good in diff, i would like to diff certain portion of a file? |
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| 03:04.14 | dondelelcaro | optraz1: you generally don't do that. Just do the whole diff and chop it down to the pieces that you want. |
| 03:04.20 | dondelelcaro | superstition: which forums? |
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| 03:04.29 | dondelelcaro | s/superstition/sdubois92/ |
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| 03:04.34 | optraz1 | dondelelcaro: yes, i did that. but during patching it failed. |
| 03:05.06 | sdubois92 | forums.debian.net |
| 03:05.18 | dondelelcaro | optraz1: in what way? |
| 03:05.48 | optraz1 | dondelelcaro: Hunk #1 FAILED at 1186. |
| 03:06.02 | dondelelcaro | optraz1: well, then your patch isn't correct. Look at the .rej files and see what failed. |
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| 03:08.16 | dondelelcaro | most likely you've got the offset wrong or the context doesn't match |
| 03:11.09 | optraz1 | dondelelcaro: maybe i do it in wrong way, i ahve 2 files. File A and File B. File B is newer, i want to get certain portion of file B and then patch into File A. is the diff is diff -u File-B File-A ? |
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| 03:11.34 | optraz1 | then patch File-A <patchfile> ? |
| 03:12.23 | dondelelcaro | optraz1: why not just take the bit from file b that you want and modify file a and then make a diff of a and a.mod |
| 03:13.14 | optraz1 | dondelelcaro: damn! that is good idea. why ddint i think of that!! :( lol |
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| 03:20.56 | optraz1 | dondelelcaro: on 2nd thought, i patching the file using different packages. so what u suggest is workable but dirty trick. if i want it the proper way, can you advice how to accomplish it? |
| 03:22.05 | daya | how do I create Release file for making local repo. in etch |
| 03:22.32 | chafe | i am preparing to install debian on a new laptop with a 64bit amd turion x2 |
| 03:22.39 | chafe | should i get a 64 bit release of debian? |
| 03:22.48 | chafe | like the amd64 version |
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| 03:24.00 | dondelelcaro | optraz1: I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to do, actually. |
| 03:24.12 | dondelelcaro | chafe: up to you, really. If you're using all FOSS software, definetly. |
| 03:24.16 | optraz1 | which part? |
| 03:24.29 | chafe | donaldo i will not be using all free software |
| 03:24.39 | chafe | i want to know if there are problems with it or problems with drivers |
| 03:25.06 | chafe | or if there is a shortage of packages or something |
| 03:25.07 | dondelelcaro | chafe: all of the FOSS drivers work fine. |
| 03:25.21 | dondelelcaro | chafe: the only issue is with propritary software and drivers which are 32bit only. |
| 03:25.46 | chafe | are there a lot of these applications or drivers? |
| 03:25.55 | dondelelcaro | chafe: you tell me; I don't use any of them. |
| 03:25.55 | chafe | maybe i should check out all the applications i am going to use |
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| 03:29.48 | \amethyst | chafe: yes, you should. Note however, that you can usually run 32-bit programs inside a 32-bit chroot if all else fails |
| 03:30.11 | Eagleray | sander__: sorry I took so long, meeting overran. How are you going? |
| 03:30.12 | \amethyst | but then they might have problems talking to your 64-bit programs |
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| 03:37.25 | ryan52 | how do I switch my sid system to lenny? |
| 03:38.26 | ryan52 | I changed the sources.list but now what do I do? |
| 03:38.28 | dondelelcaro | ryan52: short answer, you don't directly. Long answer, switch the sources to lenny, and wait for lenny to catch up with where sid is now. |
| 03:38.51 | ryan52 | oh...how long does that take? |
| 03:38.57 | sander__ | Eagleray: hi friend, thank for your attention :D |
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| 03:39.19 | dondelelcaro | ryan52: at least 12 days; longer for some packages. |
| 03:39.19 | grazz | long term long answer |
| 03:39.27 | ryan52 | thank you |
| 03:39.41 | Eagleray | sander__: how's vmware going? |
| 03:39.58 | sander__ | Eagleray: but that things dont work here, and i think that this dont work because my ethernet card dont have a cable plugged and connected to a network... |
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| 03:41.05 | sander__ | Eagleray: here in my home, i dont have a network... |
| 03:41.18 | Eagleray | sander__: possible, not likely but certainly possible... do you have a laptop and a crossover cable? |
| 03:41.38 | sander__ | Eagleray: and in nat mode the wmware works perfecly... but only the bridge mode interest me... but this did not work :( |
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| 03:42.36 | sander__ | Eagleray: no, but i have an cabble tester here... |
| 03:42.57 | Eagleray | try the cable tester |
| 03:43.06 | Eagleray | sander__: just anything that can speak ethernet |
| 03:43.17 | Eagleray | sander__: so the ehternet card thinks it's connnnected |
| 03:43.28 | sander__ | Eagleray: but i think this dont make my ethernet card active... if i enter in windows xp, i see in the taskbar... network cable unplugged.. |
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| 03:43.52 | Eagleray | sander__: thne dno't bother |
| 03:44.01 | sander__ | Eagleray: ok, i'll get the tester.. wait a moment... tanks |
| 03:44.12 | Eagleray | sander__: have you tried forcing it up with ifconfig? |
| 03:44.19 | Eagleray | (ifconfig eth0 up) |
| 03:44.22 | small | hello |
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| 03:45.11 | sander__ | Eagleray: yes, but this dont make any difference |
| 03:45.15 | hdevalence | anybody know how to get by the great firewall of china? |
| 03:45.45 | Eagleray | sander__: then I'm out of ideas sorry |
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| 03:46.07 | Eagleray | sander__: try re-asking your question to the whole channel and see if anyone else can pick it up |
| 03:46.08 | sander__ | Eagleray: the cable here is for hub, not crossover, and my card dont have led status :( how can i know an status of network cable in linux? |
| 03:46.29 | Eagleray | sander__: mii-tool will tell you the interface status |
| 03:46.50 | sander__ | Eagleray: hmm... ok |
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| 03:47.37 | sander__ | Eagleray: whats your distro? |
| 03:47.57 | vin` | sander__: more importantly, what's yours? |
| 03:48.28 | Nyle | rahul: ping |
| 03:48.28 | sander__ | vin`: debian 4 r1 |
| 03:48.38 | Azar | misterrr Nyle |
| 03:48.43 | trakinas | hello all! Im having some troubles with transcode installation. Im using debian 4.1 and it just cant resolv dependences. it get into a loop with libgtk1.2, libglib1.2 and libglib1.2ldbl. |
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| 03:48.47 | trakinas | any help? |
| 03:49.24 | Eagleray | sander__: debian lenny, the oss bit of sid, custom kernel |
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| 03:49.31 | Eagleray | sander__: *odd |
| 03:49.34 | vin` | sander__: what Desktop Environment? |
| 03:49.35 | theLichKing | hi |
| 03:49.48 | theLichKing | can anyone access this page? http://www.internetisseriousbusiness.com/ |
| 03:49.49 | trakinas | here is my source list: http://pastebin.us/?show=d3f639d8f |
| 03:49.57 | vin` | Eagleray: oss? sound? |
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| 03:50.08 | sander__ | Eagleray: do you have vmplayer there? |
| 03:50.23 | Eagleray | trakinas: try installing one or more parts of the loop manually with dpkg, then run apt-get check, then apt-get -f install |
| 03:50.28 | abrotman | trakinas: are you pinning ? |
| 03:50.41 | trakinas | abrotman: pinning? |
| 03:50.45 | Eagleray | vin`: oss was a typo of odd |
| 03:50.50 | abrotman | trakinas: then you shouldn't be mixing |
| 03:50.54 | sander__ | Eagleray: i connected the cable tester here, and used the tool mii-tool and this is: eth0: no link :( |
| 03:50.55 | vin` | Eagleray: ah |
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| 03:51.15 | Eagleray | sander__: then I have run out of ideas |
| 03:51.24 | trakinas | abrotman: I just cant install transcode because it does not resolv the dependences. |
| 03:51.27 | vin` | sander__: if you want a task bar icon, try network-manager |
| 03:51.33 | abrotman | trakinas: you're mixing versions of debian |
| 03:51.42 | trakinas | abrotman: really?? |
| 03:51.43 | sander__ | vin`: do you have vmplayer there? |
| 03:51.53 | abrotman | trakinas: you have etch and sid sources |
| 03:52.00 | sander__ | vin`: my bridge mode never works here, only the bridged.. the nat its ok |
| 03:52.08 | Nyle | hey auto359 |
| 03:52.09 | Nyle | aer.. |
| 03:52.13 | Nyle | Azar: ^ |
| 03:52.13 | vin` | sander__: no, try virtualbox instead |
| 03:52.20 | trakinas | Im feeling embarassed... |
| 03:52.21 | Azar | hi Nyle |
| 03:52.29 | robboplus | basic question about compiling... after a make;make install combo... if i changed a single line in source, do i make clean now or just make again to update the binary? |
| 03:52.31 | sander__ | vin`: virtualbox is free? |
| 03:52.33 | Eagleray | vin`: or kvm, it's faster :p |
| 03:52.37 | trakinas | alvarezp: i didnt see the etch there. lol |
| 03:52.40 | Eagleray | sander__: yeah virtualbox is free |
| 03:52.41 | Nyle | WHATS GOIN ON! |
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| 03:52.52 | trakinas | guess is toime to go to bed.. :P |
| 03:52.56 | Azar | :) what you see, Nyle |
| 03:53.00 | trakinas | let me see if it will work now. |
| 03:53.07 | vin` | Eagleray: my dual core (POS) don't support no kvm. |
| 03:53.34 | Eagleray | vin`: then kqemu, to get in practise for when you have a CPU that does... ;-) |
| 03:53.36 | vin` | !namaste Nyle |
| 03:53.58 | abrotman | trakinas: well ... not being able to install stuff in sid somewhat normal |
| 03:54.00 | vin` | stew: you need to tweak that a bit more :P ^^ |
| 03:54.22 | stew | eh? |
| 03:54.25 | Azar | haha |
| 03:54.33 | sander__ | Eagleray: tomorrow o will get an dsl modem do test this, and the link will be active... and maybe my bridged mode will work correctly, its a good idea... i think the problem is with my eth0, because the cable is unpluged, and noone here the same problem, i cant find anything in google... |
| 03:54.34 | stew | !namaste |
| 03:54.34 | dpkg | stew: I honor the Spirit in you which is also in me. |
| 03:54.44 | vin` | Eagleray: tried kqemu a while back, I don't really use winbloze that much. |
| 03:54.57 | Eagleray | sander__: good luck |
| 03:54.58 | trakinas | abrotman: worked... thanks for pointing the uncomment line there. |
| 03:55.00 | vin` | stew: can you make it accept a nick $ |
| 03:55.04 | stew | yesh |
| 03:55.09 | sander__ | Eagleray: thanks, good bye |
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| 03:55.13 | Eagleray | vin`: eh? kqemu is a linux app... |
| 03:55.25 | abrotman | module ? |
| 03:55.26 | Eagleray | vin`: actually ignore that ^^, I'm being dense |
| 03:55.32 | Nyle | vin`: oh hi |
| 03:55.37 | Nyle | Namaste |
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| 03:55.49 | Nyle | !namaste |
| 03:55.49 | dpkg | nyle: I honor the Spirit in you which is also in me. |
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| 03:56.23 | Nyle | thas cool man, word |
| 03:56.36 | vin` | word |
| 03:57.11 | Nyle | like salaam u alaikum "peace be upon/with you" |
| 03:57.18 | Azar | nyle: I put you on my dinner plate savor slices of you |
| 03:57.39 | Nyle | Azar: I'm sorry, did you want to 'eat' me? |
| 03:57.46 | Nyle | ooooo burn! |
| 03:57.52 | Azar | uh yers, I am hungry |
| 03:57.56 | Nyle | i hate dsl |
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| 03:59.27 | anomaly | wa alaikum salaam, nyle. is proper. |
| 03:59.33 | anomaly | : |
| 03:59.39 | anomaly | :) |
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| 04:00.18 | Nyle | wa means and you, or you too |
| 04:00.27 | Nyle | its in response to it, of course |
| 04:00.47 | anomaly | the above from mine, is "and unto you be peace" :) |
| 04:00.57 | anomaly | arabic semantics . |
| 04:01.00 | trakinas | why apt-get get 70KBps when my connection is only 300kbps? :P |
| 04:01.06 | Nyle | I speak jornadian arabic |
| 04:01.09 | Nyle | or dialect |
| 04:01.23 | snacky | salaam! |
| 04:01.27 | anomaly | no worries. :) |
| 04:01.28 | vin` | jordanian? |
| 04:01.33 | \amethyst | trakinas: maybe your connection is actually closer to 700kbps? :) |
| 04:01.47 | Nyle | \amethyst: mine is |
| 04:01.54 | Nyle | 768kbps up, 128 down |
| 04:02.05 | Nyle | I'm lucky if i get 90Kb/s down |
| 04:02.08 | \amethyst | err, is that backwards? |
| 04:02.13 | Nyle | oh |
| 04:02.15 | Nyle | yeh whoops |
| 04:02.16 | Nyle | hehe |
| 04:02.17 | trakinas | \amethyst: i really dont know. i have peaks of 70 very often, but most of time is only 33 |
| 04:02.31 | stew | !namaste vin` |
| 04:02.41 | stew | grr |
| 04:02.44 | Nyle | !lose stew |
| 04:02.44 | dpkg | stew: You Lose. |
| 04:02.46 | vin` | :) |
| 04:02.47 | Nyle | hehe burn! |
| 04:02.48 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:03.13 | abrotman | your bot-fu is weak! |
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| 04:03.27 | vin` | abrotman: ok, fix it! |
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| 04:03.52 | trakinas | and what annoys me... the same ISP... it charges 200,00 for 1MB here. and 60 on a city 3 hours from here... they are since last year telling we will 'soon' get the same price and etc. |
| 04:04.15 | Nyle | !paster Nyle |
| 04:04.15 | dpkg | Nyle: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 04:04.16 | trakinas | i pay the same for 300kbps... just because we arent the capital of this state... |
| 04:04.28 | Nyle | ahh channelszzza |
| 04:04.34 | abrotman | !namaste vin` |
| 04:04.34 | dpkg | vin`: The Divinity within me perceives and adores the Divinity within you |
| 04:04.39 | abrotman | can i get a pony? |
| 04:04.52 | vin` | ++abrotman |
| 04:05.04 | vin` | !factinfo namaste |
| 04:05.04 | dpkg | namaste -- created by vin` <n=nach@unaffiliated/takatumi> at Fri Nov 16 20:24:58 2007 (33 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by abrotman, 1m 23s ago. |
| 04:05.15 | abrotman | !namaste |
| 04:05.16 | dpkg | abrotman: I honor the Spirit in you which is also in me. |
| 04:05.18 | Nyle | vin`: nicely done |
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| 04:05.28 | abrotman | the other one seemed to be missing the cmd: |
| 04:05.33 | Nyle | oh n, |
| 04:05.39 | Nyle | its not nicely done yet |
| 04:05.46 | Nyle | its just like <reply> blahblah |
| 04:05.52 | stew | !namaste vin` |
| 04:05.52 | dpkg | vin`: The divine peace in me greets the divine peace in you |
| 04:06.01 | Nyle | I mean like the divinity thing |
| 04:06.05 | vin` | stew: much better |
| 04:06.10 | Nyle | that sounded cooler |
| 04:06.13 | Nyle | i dunno |
| 04:06.29 | Nyle | but adores? |
| 04:06.32 | stew | !namaste vin` |
| 04:06.32 | dpkg | vin`: The Divinity within me perceives and adores the Divinity within you |
| 04:06.35 | Nyle | eh, i dunno if thats the word I'd use |
| 04:06.49 | Nyle | honors the divinity instead of adores |
| 04:06.51 | Nyle | I think |
| 04:06.58 | stew | i'm glad i'm still useful around here |
| 04:07.01 | snacky | the divine peace in me could kick your divine peace's ass |
| 04:07.08 | Nyle | exactly |
| 04:07.15 | Nyle | and as carlin put it |
| 04:07.22 | Nyle | my god has a bigger dick than your god, peace off |
| 04:07.23 | Nyle | :D |
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| 04:09.06 | Nyle | hey stew |
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| 04:32.46 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 04:33.23 | Azar | simonrvn: who pushed you? |
| 04:33.42 | simonrvn | eh? |
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| 04:33.59 | Azar | uh sorry that was streuner: fell the branch |
| 04:34.05 | simonrvn | ....no one pushed me... o_O |
| 04:34.09 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 04:37.57 | Ezep | Hi, anyone could help me configuring a sound car CMI3880? |
| 04:38.01 | Ezep | card* |
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| 04:38.42 | Ezep | I search in google, no clue for alsa :S |
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| 04:43.34 | Azar | Ezep: need to find the correct module for that driver |
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| 04:43.55 | Ezep | Mmm, i had it, no remember now |
| 04:44.04 | Ezep | And then? try irq and dma? |
| 04:44.09 | Ezep | ioport etc? |
| 04:44.35 | \amethyst | Ezep: snd-cmipci maybe? |
| 04:44.40 | Azar | insert it in /etc/modules |
| 04:44.49 | \amethyst | there's also a snd-cmi8330 but it seems to be for the ISA version |
| 04:45.06 | Ezep | U mean I have an integred cmi8330 |
| 04:45.15 | Ezep | On the motherboard |
| 04:45.56 | \amethyst | Ezep: I would imagine that is PCI, then |
| 04:46.37 | Azar | I can't see any 3880 on the drivers list |
| 04:46.49 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.05 | Ezep | Alsa's one? |
| 04:47.19 | Ezep | \amethyst: it say the same error than alsaconf |
| 04:47.26 | Azar | Ezep: before alsa you need to know the exact name of your sound card |
| 04:47.38 | Ezep | It's that =/ |
| 04:47.41 | Ezep | Im sure |
| 04:47.54 | Azar | http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/companies/222.htm << not there |
| 04:48.09 | Ezep | That's not for oss? |
| 04:48.34 | \amethyst | wait, it's 3880 and not 8330? |
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| 04:48.47 | Azar | first worry about the CM number so to get the right driver and module name |
| 04:48.49 | Ezep | ups, it's 8330, sorry |
| 04:48.55 | Azar | ah oh |
| 04:48.57 | Ezep | I had a typo |
| 04:49.06 | Ezep | Sorry then Azar :( |
| 04:49.11 | judgement07 | need help installing debian on an old mac computer |
| 04:49.14 | \amethyst | Ezep: does it show up in lspci? |
| 04:49.19 | Ezep | No |
| 04:49.30 | \amethyst | judgement07: how old? |
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| 04:49.55 | \amethyst | judgement07: m68k, old-world PPC, new-world PPC, ... ? |
| 04:50.03 | judgement07 | mac 6400 |
| 04:50.29 | \amethyst | that's old-world I'm pretty sure |
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| 04:51.29 | Azar | lsmod | grep snd |
| 04:51.41 | \amethyst | judgement07: have you looked at the IG? http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ |
| 04:51.42 | Azar | Ezep: ^^^^ |
| 04:51.45 | judgement07 | can oldworld s/w run on this kind of machine? i tried to install ubuntu; but nothing happened |
| 04:51.46 | Ezep | k |
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| 04:52.04 | Azar | Ezep: you could use a paster to paste the results |
| 04:52.06 | Azar | !paster |
| 04:52.06 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 04:52.18 | Ezep | Azar: with alsa modules loaded or not u want it? |
| 04:52.20 | spoof3r | is there any way to install JDK via apt-get or aptitude? |
| 04:52.27 | \amethyst | err, does ubuntu even have a PPC version? |
| 04:52.28 | Azar | Ezep: as is now |
| 04:52.30 | Ezep | I could unload alsa's one |
| 04:52.33 | Ezep | Okey |
| 04:52.50 | judgement07 | \amethyst: yes it does... |
| 04:52.57 | \amethyst | judgement07: you need special software like BootX to boot Linux on a Mac of that generation |
| 04:53.12 | Ezep | Sorry if i late, i didn't have mouse, only using screen to paste Azar =/ |
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| 04:54.14 | judgement07 | \amethyst: okay thank... this old mac runs well; but i just can't seem to get it online... |
| 04:54.38 | \amethyst | judgement07: according to the IG, you'll also have to make floppies to boot the installer |
| 04:54.42 | judgement07 | i am not a mac fanatic tho i got it from a friend |
| 04:55.04 | \amethyst | judgement07: since macs of those age do not like to boot things other than Mac OS |
| 04:55.13 | \amethyst | s/those/that/ |
| 04:55.28 | Ezep | Azar: http://pastebin.ca/824760 |
| 04:55.30 | judgement07 | what does that mean? |
| 04:55.56 | judgement07 | you think i'm better off reinstalling mac os in it? |
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| 04:56.06 | \amethyst | judgement07: probably not :) |
| 04:56.23 | \amethyst | judgement07: you'll just have to spend a bit more effort than usual to install it |
| 04:56.41 | \amethyst | judgement07: I'd recommend following through the PPC installation guide |
| 04:56.44 | Azar | Ezep: so you got it, now it should be present in /etc/modules, can you paste /etc/modules? |
| 04:56.55 | judgement07 | i downloaded OS 9.1 already... but i just like linux better... maybe try BeOS |
| 04:57.17 | \amethyst | BeOS might be nice |
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| 04:57.44 | Ezep | Azar: only "loop" is in modules :) |
| 04:58.04 | \amethyst | though out-of-date by this point I'd imagine |
| 04:58.27 | judgement07 | the thing is i had a hard time learning to install stuff w/linux... i will prolly need to learn another new os w/BeOS |
| 04:58.32 | Azar | Ezep: uh oh, what Debian version are you running? |
| 04:58.45 | Ezep | Now, i just upgraded to lenny |
| 04:58.51 | Ezep | And rebooted, sure |
| 04:58.58 | Azar | ew ewwww ugh |
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| 04:59.37 | Azar | ok then in /etc/modules put the snd_cmipci on a line and on the next line add snd_cmi8330 |
| 04:59.47 | Azar | so at boot up they get loaded |
| 05:00.11 | Azar | ...after that, run alsaconf , and configure on your own.. I don't go near lenny |
| 05:00.12 | Ezep | Ok |
| 05:00.28 | Ezep | I could upgrade to sid :S |
| 05:00.35 | Ezep | Etch has a prehistoric alsa :S |
| 05:00.54 | Azar | Ezep: on your own then because it requires skill to deal with unstable |
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| 05:01.20 | Ezep | Ok, i understand |
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| 05:02.00 | Ezep | But, if I add snd_cmipci & snd_cmi8330, is = that i load with modprobe |
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| 05:02.10 | Azar | prehistoric programs that "just work" > once you go up to testing/unstable programs will sometimes stop working and you gotta figure on your own how to fix |
| 05:02.39 | Ezep | Etch is to basic for me :S |
| 05:02.41 | Azar | Ezep: modprobe loads them everytime you bootup? |
| 05:02.43 | Ezep | I like etch.. |
| 05:02.46 | Rusty1 | judgement07: http://penguinppc.org/mac/ take a look there, YMMV |
| 05:02.48 | Ezep | No no |
| 05:03.01 | Azar | well that why you add them on /etc/modules |
| 05:03.11 | Ezep | I mean, i could load them NOW with modprobe just to try |
| 05:03.20 | Azar | well yes |
| 05:03.21 | Ezep | And them add to /etc/modules |
| 05:03.33 | Ezep | Okey, thanks Azar |
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| 05:04.40 | Ezep | alsa show the same errors with speaker-test :S |
| 05:05.00 | Ezep | or i have to do alsaconf again? |
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| 05:10.43 | vin` | Ezep: if your sound card works by loading the right modules, forget about alsaconf. |
| 05:11.20 | vin` | and what's speaker-test? |
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| 05:12.18 | Ezep | No, my sound card don't works with only the modules :s |
| 05:12.39 | Ezep | Speaker-test is an app that test sound speaker |
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| 05:15.54 | AphisOne | Has anyone had issues with boot-up with the 2.6.18 kernel |
| 05:16.22 | AphisOne | at bootup gdm freezes with a blank screen |
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| 05:18.20 | maddash | AphisOne: try logging in through a console and 'startx' |
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| 05:20.20 | AphisOne | maddash: I did that and received the same |
| 05:20.34 | maddash | AphisOne: received what? what did you do? |
| 05:21.04 | calvin | i'm trying to configure something and got this message: /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: Error 23 |
| 05:21.09 | AphisOne | booted in single user mode and reviewed the xorg.conf then started X and got a blank screen and the system halted |
| 05:21.19 | maddash | !find libc.so.6 |
| 05:21.48 | maddash | AphisOne: have a look at your Xorg.0.log |
| 05:21.50 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libc.so.6' (6 of 7): (/lib/libc.so.6) in libs/libc6 ;; (/lib64/libc.so.6) in libs/libc6-amd64 ;; (/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6) in libs/libc6-i686 ;; (/usr/lib/debug/libc.so.6) in libdevel/libc6-dbg ;; (/lib/i686/nosegneg/libc.so.6) in libs/libc6-xen ;; (/usr/share/systemimager/boot/i386/standard/initrd_template/lib/libc.so.6) in admin/systemimager-boot-i386-standard. |
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| 05:22.15 | spoof3r | where can i get awt? |
| 05:22.24 | spoof3r | im not finding it no matter where i look... |
| 05:22.25 | maddash | spoof3r: google. |
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| 05:25.19 | Dark_Apostrophe | My CPU usage is 100%, I wanted to see what was using the CPU cycles and it says apt-get |
| 05:25.33 | Dark_Apostrophe | How do I see what apt-get is up to? I wasn't doing anything with it |
| 05:26.44 | Maliuta | what says apt is using the cycles? |
| 05:26.53 | Dark_Apostrophe | ksysguard |
| 05:26.55 | spoof3r | maddash: yep i've already tried a thousand times :) |
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| 05:27.21 | Maliuta | Dark_Apostrophe: have you tired looking at a "ps aufx"? |
| 05:27.36 | Dark_Apostrophe | No |
| 05:27.50 | maddash | spoof3r: then it DNE. |
| 05:28.19 | maddash | spoof3r: don't expect anyone here to do your googling for you. |
| 05:28.20 | Maliuta | Dark_Apostrophe: so try |
| 05:28.31 | Dark_Apostrophe | ok |
| 05:28.32 | AphisOne | maddash: The last Worning I see is "Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)" but contenuse until attempting to it starts configuring the screen. "NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration" |
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| 05:29.07 | Dark_Apostrophe | It was started by cron, I think... :/ |
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| 05:31.02 | AphisOne | maddash: is it possable that the nvidia driver is having issues? |
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| 05:32.03 | maddash | AphisOne: why don't you let me see the entire log, instead of pieces of it that you feel is important? |
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| 05:35.35 | AphisOne | maddash: unless I was to hand type the whole log.. that isn't going to be possible. The computer in question, due to it halting durring the problem, isn't on the network. |
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| 05:35.50 | AphisOne | maddash: I am on a differant system |
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| 05:37.17 | maddash | AphisOne: ssh? |
| 05:37.43 | maddash | AphisOne: nvm. try a generic xserver-xorg-video* driver |
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| 05:39.02 | AphisOne | maddash: as previously stated, the system is not on the network. I changed the video driver to visa and now it works... solved problem... thanks |
| 05:39.12 | maddash | kudos. |
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| 05:40.27 | maddash | what's the name of that game that was the prototypical vaporware? |
| 05:40.33 | AphisOne | maddash: appreciate your help |
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| 05:40.50 | maddash | doom forever? |
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| 05:43.57 | \amethyst | maddash: Duke Nukem Forever |
| 05:44.29 | Ezep | yeah, 3d :) |
| 05:44.39 | maddash | \amethyst: I just read about some trailer that was recently released |
| 05:45.08 | \amethyst | maddash: there were also trailers in 1998 and 2001 |
| 05:45.14 | \amethyst | :) |
| 05:45.16 | Ezep | lol |
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| 05:54.29 | Ezep | So, any other help about my sound card? :S |
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| 06:03.24 | Ezep | isapnp.conf and conf.modules are still in use? |
| 06:03.47 | Ezep | /etc/isapnp.conf and /etc/conf.modules are still in use?* |
| 06:04.33 | maddash | by default, ubuntu never gives you the option to set the root pwd. how dumb is that? |
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| 06:04.33 | SerajewelKS | why is ia32-libs-dev no longer in lenny? |
| 06:04.39 | SerajewelKS | amd64 lenny |
| 06:04.42 | SerajewelKS | it's in ia64 |
| 06:04.47 | maddash | that doesn't happen in the new lenny installer, right? |
| 06:04.59 | linux_jones | if opengl isnt installed initially, chances are my hardware isnt supported? |
| 06:05.17 | kgoetz | opengl should be part of xorg |
| 06:05.19 | kgoetz | i thought |
| 06:05.38 | maddash | linux_jones: no, you have to install it yourself. libgl1-mesa and the links, I think. |
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| 06:05.53 | kgoetz | hm. |
| 06:06.02 | maddash | likes* |
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| 06:12.37 | waltz | how do I install the JRE? |
| 06:12.43 | maddash | !java |
| 06:12.43 | dpkg | hmm... java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun partially released its Java implementation under the GPL on 2006-11-13. There are other implementations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>. |
| 06:12.50 | waltz | hmm indeed |
| 06:13.03 | maddash | waltz: shortcut: package = sun-java6-jre |
| 06:13.17 | waltz | k thanks |
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| 06:13.58 | SerajewelKS | seriously, why was amd64 removed from the arch list for ia32-libs-dev? |
| 06:14.27 | maddash | SerajewelKS: are you trying to cross-compile? |
| 06:14.50 | ryan52 | my hard disk keeps switching between sde and sda so sometimes when I turn on my comp it hangs at "Waiting for root device...". Is there any way other than saying sda or sde on the command line? (like how when you preseed you say /dev/discs/disc0/disc) |
| 06:14.55 | waltz | maddash: sun-java6-jre doesn't exist? |
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| 06:15.21 | kgoetz | ryan52: you can try UUID |
| 06:15.28 | maddash | waltz: iz thiz etch you be runnin'? |
| 06:15.35 | ryan52 | okay, thanks |
| 06:15.44 | waltz | maddash: 'tis be |
| 06:16.05 | waltz | (is running etch Not Good?) |
| 06:16.14 | maddash | waltz: dost thou have non-free enabled? |
| 06:16.18 | SerajewelKS | maddash: uhm yes, that package existed in amd64 until a recent update, now it's ia64-only |
| 06:16.33 | SerajewelKS | maddash: the other ia32-libs packages are listed for amd64 too |
| 06:16.38 | SerajewelKS | maddash: which makes no sense |
| 06:16.41 | waltz | how can thee be certain? |
| 06:17.48 | waltz | (how can thee enable non-free?) |
| 06:17.48 | SerajewelKS | maddash: there is nothing in the changelog about this |
| 06:18.11 | waltz | also why dost thou speaketh in Shakespearean tongue? |
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| 06:18.20 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: in the changelog: |
| 06:18.44 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: (version 1.6, March 2006): * Drop ia32-libs-dev on amd64 (it is empty). |
| 06:18.58 | maddash | !nonfree |
| 06:18.58 | dpkg | i guess non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 06:19.17 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: funny... wine refuses to compile, and everything i google says i need that package |
| 06:19.25 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: woah, 2006 |
| 06:19.34 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: maybe i never had that package at all... :O |
| 06:19.35 | kgoetz | lol |
| 06:20.16 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: there are various lib32foo-dev packages |
| 06:20.18 | SerajewelKS | ok then, why won't wine configure :) |
| 06:20.24 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: for the individual libraries |
| 06:20.25 | SerajewelKS | configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
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| 06:21.21 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: libc6-dev-i386 would be the most basic of them |
| 06:21.27 | SerajewelKS | some weird crap in config.log |
| 06:21.30 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: (it's named differently from most of the others) |
| 06:21.35 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: no, it's failing on -lgcc |
| 06:21.40 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: i'm trying to figure out why |
| 06:21.48 | SerajewelKS | /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.2.3/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc |
| 06:21.57 | SerajewelKS | dpkg -S /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.2.3/libgcc.a gives no output... |
| 06:21.58 | dpkg | Package: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.2.3/libgcc.a gives no output...: Status: install ok installed |
| 06:22.10 | SerajewelKS | pff |
| 06:23.28 | kgoetz | lol |
| 06:23.30 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: do you have libc32gcc1 ? |
| 06:23.58 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: the one you listed is "incompatible" because it is 64-bit |
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| 06:24.20 | vin` | SerajewelKS: installed build-depends? |
| 06:24.39 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: if you mean lib32gcc1, yes |
| 06:24.44 | SerajewelKS | vin`: building from git |
| 06:24.49 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: also, dpkg -S gives no output on that because 4.2.3 is a symlink to 4.2 |
| 06:25.19 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: gcc-4.2-multilib ? |
| 06:25.33 | SerajewelKS | ah |
| 06:25.34 | SerajewelKS | it was libc6-dev-i386 |
| 06:25.39 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: aha |
| 06:25.41 | SerajewelKS | i must have removed that recently |
| 06:26.07 | vin` | SerajewelKS: even then apt-get build-dep wine should help |
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| 06:40.02 | kgoetz | can someone tell me how to get postfix/* to stop loggin into syslog? if that data is differnt to whats in mail.*, can i put it in a special postfix log? there so much stuff going through syslog i can t see whats goign on |
| 06:41.24 | kgoetz | sorry, just realised its on an ubuntu box, i'll go and ask them |
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| 06:42.26 | SerajewelKS | vin`: yes but apt-get sucks :) |
| 06:43.49 | SerajewelKS | at least when you have aptitude |
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| 06:48.16 | ryan52 | My hd switches between sde and sda. I got it to boot okay now but my swap is not working correctly (it only works half the time). Is there anything I can do about this? |
| 06:48.22 | ryan52 | oh, nvm |
| 06:48.27 | ryan52 | I figured it out |
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| 06:50.17 | jaymzh | Is anyone else having nvidia-is-segfaulting-X problems? |
| 06:50.35 | jaymzh | I just fixed a bug about it... but then I thought I'd see if maybe this was a known issue |
| 06:51.26 | jaymzh | s/fixed/filed/ |
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| 06:53.35 | hultiz | name one good stress testing program i can use to create as much heat as possible over a long time? |
| 06:54.06 | kgoetz | kde *grin* (i joke) |
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| 06:54.17 | hultiz | haha ^^ |
| 06:54.37 | kgoetz | i havent used it, but iirc theres a tool called 'burnin' |
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| 19:13.13 | abrotman | davood: depends on the drives i believe |
| 19:13.27 | darrint | Is there a tool available to help packagers add and remove lines from configuration files? |
| 19:13.40 | kaxi | enouf hmm yea, might be a good reason to add this to the list of default packages to keep installed. |
| 19:13.45 | davood | seagate 500G ST3500830AS |
| 19:14.14 | haier | !find GL/glut.h etch |
| 19:14.17 | abrotman | davood: at one time .. there was a sata_sil blacklist |
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| 19:14.20 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'GL/glut.h' (1): (/usr/include/GL/glut.h) in libdevel/freeglut3-dev. |
| 19:14.20 | abrotman | haier: use apt-file |
| 19:14.36 | abrotman | haier: aptitude install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search GL/glut.h |
| 19:14.59 | karsten | abrotman: Hint: auto-apt's search is faster than apt-file's. |
| 19:15.05 | enouf | davood: what's the issue? maybe linux-ata.org and http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html can help |
| 19:15.06 | abrotman | whatever! |
| 19:15.39 | davood | enouf: this is the problem |
| 19:15.39 | haier | abrotman : no results :( |
| 19:15.40 | davood | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/sata-error-on-linux-kernel-2.6.18-5-607561/ |
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| 19:15.52 | karsten | auto-apt: real0m8.028s |
| 19:15.56 | abrotman | davood: moment |
| 19:16.00 | karsten | (apt-file is still searching). |
| 19:16.05 | abrotman | haier: then you did it wrong |
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| 19:16.17 | karsten | Search is: time auto-apt search /bin/bash |
| 19:16.23 | kaxi | how can i remove all the man pages and other documentation? |
| 19:16.33 | karsten | apt-file: real0m48.176s |
| 19:16.35 | kaxi | *i think it isn't all that much. maybe 8mb |
| 19:16.43 | jeremy_c | Is there anything on a standard debian box that would block outgoing FTP connections? I can connect on my windows box to an ftp server, but not on my debian box. Same network. The debian box does everything else just fine (IRC right now, for example, web, mail, ssh, etc...) |
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| 19:17.00 | abchirk | Can I show me the speed of copying files with "cp"? |
| 19:17.03 | haier | abrotman : is it necessar to have the root rights to do apt-file update ?? |
| 19:17.24 | stew | maddie: find glut.h |
| 19:17.24 | maddie | stew: glut.h in etch on i386 libfltk1.1-dev: glut.H freeglut3-dev: glut.h |
| 19:17.26 | stew | :) |
| 19:17.30 | wols | jeremy_c: telnet <ftp server ip> 21 |
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| 19:17.32 | enouf | karsten: p.d.o ftw \o/ |
| 19:17.33 | LoWang77 | sup |
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| 19:17.42 | karsten | abchirk: You can time the entire operation. You can 'cp -v' to get per-file reporting on multi-file transfers. |
| 19:17.46 | karsten | enouf: ?? |
| 19:17.48 | LoWang77 | anyone know how to make a command run as a diffrent user from a script |
| 19:17.51 | wols | stew: maddie being a supybot? |
| 19:17.54 | enouf | karsten: search |
| 19:17.54 | karsten | LoWang77: sudo |
| 19:17.56 | jeremy_c | wols: yes, I connect, but no banner from remote server or anything. |
| 19:17.58 | karsten | enouf: :) |
| 19:18.07 | wols | jeremy_c: which ftp client? |
| 19:18.13 | abrotman | maddie: hi |
| 19:18.13 | maddie | abrotman: Error: "hi" is not a valid command. |
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| 19:18.14 | jeremy_c | wols: ftp or ncftp. |
| 19:18.15 | abrotman | ok |
| 19:18.18 | abchirk | mh karsten no. :( I would like to test the speed, for my new USB-drive |
| 19:18.24 | wols | maddie: help |
| 19:18.25 | maddie | wols: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 19:18.26 | stew | wols: yes, i wrote a 'debdb' module for supybot that queries mysql for info i sucked out of Packages.gz |
| 19:18.31 | Bohoooo | hi guys |
| 19:18.32 | davood | abortman: do you know if this problem is for debian or it's a general kernel problem ? |
| 19:18.43 | wols | stew: great. no more lame dpkg |
| 19:18.46 | wols | dpkg: you are lame |
| 19:18.46 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, wols |
| 19:18.51 | abrotman | http://lxr.linux.no/linux/drivers/ata/sata_sil.c |
| 19:18.51 | stew | right now it just supports 'info pkgname' 'versions pkgname' 'maint packagename' |
| 19:18.59 | stew | find doesn't have full paths yet |
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| 19:19.16 | stew | still working on performance issues on importing the Packages.gz files. but its fast to answer |
| 19:19.16 | abrotman | davood: at one time there was a kernel/sil/seagate bug where certain seagate drives when used with a sil controller caused all kinds of badness |
| 19:19.21 | Bohoooo | my debian 4.0 seems to be ignoring the rules in the z25-persistent-net |
| 19:19.23 | stew | maddie: versions libc6 |
| 19:19.23 | maddie | stew: libc6 versions on i386: Debian sid: 2.7-4 Debian lenny: 2.7-3 Debian etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 Debian sarge: 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6 |
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| 19:19.30 | abrotman | davood: but i don't see your drive model listed there |
| 19:19.35 | abrotman | stew: tritium! |
| 19:19.54 | stew | abrotman: yeah. i needed a break from tritium, i'm going to get back to it as soon as maddie is in better shape |
| 19:20.01 | Bohoooo | and it keeps naming a eth1_rename_ren |
| 19:20.08 | abrotman | stew: maddie is done in python? |
| 19:20.25 | stew | abrotman: yeah, supybot |
| 19:20.28 | abrotman | stew: maddie needs a hostmask ... |
| 19:20.34 | Bohoooo | should i start using eth1_rename_ren in /etc/interfaces? |
| 19:20.38 | stew | maddie needs a host |
| 19:20.39 | maddie | stew: Error: "needs" is not a valid command. |
| 19:20.47 | abrotman | hehe |
| 19:20.47 | davood | abrotman: where is the list ? |
| 19:20.48 | stew | and needs to chill |
| 19:20.50 | itchi | I have setup a NIS server. Since, my courier mail server on another box doesn't work. It seems to be have problems with the authentification. Need i to install courier and NIS on the same box? |
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| 19:21.07 | abrotman | davood: http://lxr.linux.no/linux/drivers/ata/sata_sil.c .. see the sil_blacklist array |
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| 19:21.25 | muh2000 | need help debian amd64 lenny ltsp4.2 problem on my terminal: kernel: kdm[6416]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 00002af81a412040 rsp 00007fff917a0098 error 4 kdm[4756]: Unknown session exit code 0 (sig 11) from manager process |
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| 19:21.41 | simonrvn | that's the problem with supys, they're a bit too chatty |
| 19:21.56 | jeremy_c | wols: no other ideas? |
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| 19:22.07 | simonrvn | there's one in #botpark that we have +q ... |
| 19:22.17 | stew | i'll try to chill it out |
| 19:22.26 | simonrvn | (owner hasn't claimed it yet... hehe) |
| 19:22.50 | itchi | stew: Supybot is nice |
| 19:22.52 | stew | this one a least doesn't have a trigger, so if you don't talk to it it shoudl be silent |
| 19:22.58 | simonrvn | hm, python.. generally faster than perl |
| 19:23.02 | itchi | stew: I have used that some time on #debian-nl |
| 19:23.04 | davood | abrotman: would you please take a look at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/sata-error-on-linux-kernel-2.6.18-5-607561/ |
| 19:23.05 | enouf | davood: it appears the kernel is requesting to probe the drive before the port is ready on the card/controller - imo |
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| 19:23.35 | enouf | (but my opinion matters little ;-)) |
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| 19:23.42 | simonrvn | man, that article is getting *a lot* of hits |
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| 19:24.21 | abrotman | davood: it's either a drive problem or a DMA problem |
| 19:24.36 | enouf | davood: have you googled on those exact errors? and .. that's a kern.log can you save/post an entire dmesg when that happens? |
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| 19:25.19 | rolio25 | Is it possible to return to stable from sid ? |
| 19:25.27 | abrotman | davood: that's a guess on my part .. i've not seen errors like that for myself |
| 19:25.30 | abrotman | rolio25: no |
| 19:25.48 | thrawn | i want to disable courier-imap and courier-pop? how can i do it the right way? that means not just delete the init.d script? :) i want courier-imaps and courier-pops only |
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| 19:26.03 | jeremy_c | I am trying to connect to ftp.firsthealth.com ... it will not connect from my debian, but will from windows. I've tried now, ftp, ncftp and cftp on debian. I have 2 debian boxes, diff networks, neither will connect to ftp.firsthealth.com |
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| 19:26.08 | rolio25 | ok thx |
| 19:26.25 | jeremy_c | Can someone else on their debian box just try to connect to ftp.firsthealth.com and see if you get a login prompt? |
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| 19:26.45 | jeremy_c | ftp connect, that is, to ftp.firsthealth.com |
| 19:27.34 | dondelelcaro | jeremy_c: it's working |
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| 19:27.48 | jeremy_c | dondelelcaro: what client? normal ftp? |
| 19:27.52 | dondelelcaro | jeremy_c: all you need to do is telnet ftp.firsthealth.com ftp; to see. |
| 19:28.06 | dondelelcaro | (and FTP doesn't give a login prompt; you have to feed it commands) |
| 19:28.06 | jeremy_c | dondelelcaro: do you get a banner message back? I do not. |
| 19:28.17 | dondelelcaro | jeremy_c: 220 aptut258n2.firsthealth.com NcFTPd Server (licensed copy) ready. |
| 19:28.40 | jeremy_c | dondelelcaro: yeah, I don't get any of that. Just a "Connected to ftp.firsthealth.com" ... that's it. It'll sit there forever. |
| 19:29.15 | abrotman | sounds like a firewall issue |
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| 19:29.38 | jeremy_c | abrotman: I can connect to other ftp sites, such as ftp.gnu.org just fine. |
| 19:29.57 | dondelelcaro | jeremy_c: well, something between you and them is blocking ftp traffic. |
| 19:30.05 | abrotman | though he said windows can do it |
| 19:30.23 | dondelelcaro | well, check telnet directly then. |
| 19:30.33 | jeremy_c | abrotman: dondelelcaro: yes, my windows box right next to me, same network, home router, connection works fine. |
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| 19:30.42 | dondelelcaro | jeremy_c: what does telnet directly do? |
| 19:30.52 | jeremy_c | dondelelcaro: I did check telnet. I can connect, but I never get anything back. No banner message even. |
| 19:30.56 | abrotman | is the debian box also connected to the router.. or does it go through another machine ? |
| 19:30.56 | enouf | davood: other things; is your PSU perhaps a bit weak, old? does that happen after a bad shutdown? |
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| 19:31.33 | jeremy_c | abrotman: it's connected (wired) to the same linksys router thatgoes to my cable modem that my windows box is.. |
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| 19:32.19 | jeremy_c | abrotman: something on this debian box is causing the problem. My work debian box does the exact same thing. I'm in Ohio, it's in San Deigo. |
| 19:32.24 | jochieng | hello |
| 19:32.45 | jeremy_c | abrotman: both the work server and my laptop have etch installed as of last week, both are brand new. |
| 19:32.51 | abrotman | jeremy_c: the problem is clearly ohio! |
| 19:33.05 | jochieng | sudo on etch seems to have a path problem -- anybody know about this... thanks |
| 19:33.05 | jochieng | i m a newbie |
| 19:33.05 | jeremy_c | abrotman: and san diego? :-D |
| 19:33.14 | abrotman | heh |
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| 19:33.23 | asg | jeremy_c: define 'path problem' |
| 19:33.33 | abrotman | asg: misfire |
| 19:33.37 | dondelelcaro | jochieng: best to just tell us what the actual problem is. |
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| 19:33.40 | jeremy_c | asg: you mean jochieng? |
| 19:33.51 | davood | enouf: last time I rebooted the box the drive totaly disapears from my devices. so I can't save complete dmessage |
| 19:33.57 | asg | abrotman: hang on, let me reload |
| 19:34.01 | abrotman | yay! |
| 19:34.03 | asg | jochieng: define 'path problem' |
| 19:34.10 | abrotman | jeremy_c: anything interesting in netstat ? |
| 19:34.24 | jochieng | sudo du -sh /root -- tells me cant find command sudo |
| 19:34.26 | asg | jeremy_c: do you have a firewall configured locally on your debian machines? |
| 19:34.32 | thrawn | How can i disable some init.d scripts? what is the right way (not just delete em) in gentoo you can use "rc-update" |
| 19:34.33 | jelly-home | jochieng: install it! |
| 19:34.34 | asg | jochieng: is it installed? |
| 19:34.38 | jeremy_c | asg: no firewall on the debian right now. |
| 19:34.52 | jeremy_c | abrotman: I am not sure how to use netstat, sorry. |
| 19:34.54 | davood | paste? |
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| 19:35.02 | davood | !paste |
| 19:35.02 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 19:35.10 | asg | !crabpaste |
| 19:35.10 | dpkg | http://importfood.com/media/cppk0701.jpg or a sandwich spread, nice in sandwiches. thomas_adam owes abrotman a jar or three of this. See <cheesesteak> |
| 19:35.11 | jochieng | asg: how do u do tht, i tried apt-get install sudo -- no luck |
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| 19:35.26 | asg | jochieng: what version of Debian are you running? |
| 19:35.27 | dondelelcaro | jochieng: what does apt-get install sudo; say? |
| 19:35.30 | asg | !info sudo etch |
| 19:35.34 | dpkg | sudo: (Provide limited super user privileges to specific users), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.6.8p12-4 (etch), Packaged size: 158 kB, Installed size: 396 kB |
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| 19:35.39 | abrotman | heh |
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| 19:36.01 | dondelelcaro | !+info sudo rex |
| 19:36.03 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 19:36.04 | dpkg | Package 'sudo' does not exist. |
| 19:36.07 | mcdaniels | hi folks |
| 19:36.12 | jochieng | dondelelcaro: hold on, tho i kind of saw tells me cant find package |
| 19:36.27 | davood | is there any history of dmesg ? |
| 19:36.29 | dondelelcaro | jochieng: what does apt-cache policy; output? |
| 19:36.38 | mcdaniels | anybody can please tell me if and how i can switch off inetd on a debian etch server with apache mysql vsftp php ? |
| 19:36.46 | dondelelcaro | davood: /var/log/dmesg |
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| 19:36.58 | cyorxamp | Lo folks, I'm using the nvidia proprietary drivers and xinerama for dual screen setup. However beryl won't seem to load any more - could someone give me a hand? |
| 19:36.59 | asg | mcdaniels: /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd stop |
| 19:37.18 | mcdaniels | asg: and is inetd running by default? |
| 19:37.35 | asg | mcdaniels: it generally is on a default debian install |
| 19:37.36 | davood | dondelelcaro: it's not history |
| 19:37.41 | mcdaniels | asg: i thougt i install xinetd instead of inetd but now i have both running |
| 19:37.47 | davood | dondelelcaro: just a normal log |
| 19:38.07 | dondelelcaro | davood: what do you think dmesg is? It's literally just the kernel's log buffer. |
| 19:38.26 | mcdaniels | asg: ok i thing i remove xinetd and stop inetd |
| 19:38.27 | enouf | davood: ok, well, you could attach a serial console (but we'll ignore that for now, plus one device disappearing matters not, if it's not the / partition - if it is, the system wouldn't boot anyway) - also is that a PCI Card? check into possible BIOS settings for delaying the probing of HDDs, or setting up specific PCI params/kernel options to pass on boot (exactly what can be tricky, man setpci, see kernel-parameters.txt, man bootparam) |
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| 19:38.34 | jeremy_c | abrotman: asg: dondelelcaro: net stat reports: "tcp 0 0 jlaptop.local:35791 ftp.firsthealh.com:ftp ESTABLISHED" |
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| 19:38.47 | jochieng | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.55 | dondelelcaro | jochieng: use a paste site to show it to us. |
| 19:39.01 | mcdaniels | asg: have you got any expirience what happens if i remove inetd with apt-get remove ? |
| 19:39.27 | jochieng | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.32 | dondelelcaro | mcdaniels: I don't remember what all depends on inetd, but you don't actually have to remove it. |
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| 19:39.48 | asg | mcdaniels: it should be fine unless you are using daemons that require it. It'll break a few rfcs that nobody cares about but that's probably it. |
| 19:39.52 | jochieng | anybody know i can set up sudo, kindly hel |
| 19:39.57 | jochieng | help# |
| 19:40.03 | asg | jochieng: we told you. apt-get install sudo |
| 19:40.08 | dondelelcaro | jochieng: you're typing this on some kind of computer, right? So you can copy and paste whatever is output in a paste site. |
| 19:40.14 | mcdaniels | asg: btw. it is a productive webserver and i red that inetd is insecure |
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| 19:40.27 | dondelelcaro | jochieng: if you're unable to do that, none of us are going to be able to assist you at all in figuring out why apt-get install sudo; does not work for you. |
| 19:40.31 | wols | jochieng: and if you have problems, ask a concise question. not a "install and configure sudo for me" |
| 19:40.35 | mcdaniels | asg: so i think i remove xinetd because that wasnt installed by default |
| 19:40.40 | enouf | davood: also please try to answer my other questions, and 2 more :-) , is that a NAS/SAN or something, and are you using a stock Debian kernel? |
| 19:40.48 | asg | mcdaniels: it isn't insecure per se, older versions could be Dos'd but the openbsd one and xinetd should have rate limiting functionality. |
| 19:41.17 | jochieng | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.26 | jochieng | wols: sorry i m newbie |
| 19:41.28 | abrotman | jeremy_c: nothing else? |
| 19:41.30 | asg | mcdaniels: it's generally more efficient if daemons spawn their own children (i.e., apache) than being spawned per connection via inetd. |
| 19:41.41 | jochieng | let me try to paste |
| 19:41.45 | rahul | daemon spawn! |
| 19:41.50 | asg | \m/ |
| 19:42.08 | jelly-home | fhtagn. |
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| 19:42.24 | asg | :F |
| 19:42.27 | asg | !:F |
| 19:42.32 | abrotman | pinhead? |
| 19:42.39 | jeremy_c | abrotman: well, there is 2-3 pages of things. That's the only thing that seemed interesting. |
| 19:42.58 | asg | oh wait, :F was the jewel snaggletooth factoid |
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| 19:43.13 | asg | !:E |
| 19:43.13 | dpkg | Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! |
| 19:43.18 | rolio25 | how to fix -> echo "0x7fffffff" > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax -> in cinelerra ? |
| 19:43.32 | mcdaniels | asg: ok that means i can leave the inetd and remove xinetd -> i thougt xinetd substitutes the inetd |
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| 19:43.55 | jelly-home | rolio25: what do you mean, how to fix? |
| 19:44.02 | jochieng | dondelelcaro: i get this jochieng:~# apt-cache policy |
| 19:44.02 | jochieng | Package files: |
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| 19:44.07 | enouf | whoa |
| 19:44.10 | asg | mcdaniels: from what I can tell, they can coexist. If you use one, I'd probably use xinetd though it's worth a look at the openbsd version in etch and later since those guys do a good job from a security perspective. |
| 19:44.21 | jeremy_c | abrotman: hm, I did it again, and now see an adittional one for ftp.firsthealth.com stating: FIN_WAIT1 |
| 19:44.33 | abrotman | something is blocking |
| 19:44.54 | Berteun | I have a Debian Xen dom0, with a domU that has an internel IP address, and I'd like to route data from this ip to the internet. I've enabled /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward; and packets from the internet network get send to the internet. Now I wnat to masquerade them, so I do: |
| 19:44.58 | Berteun | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '172.16.0.0/12' -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 19:44.59 | mcdaniels | asg: if i use xinetd -> how can i remove the inetd ? -> apt-get remove it? |
| 19:45.00 | jelly-home | rolio25: if you want it to be run automatically at boot, put an appropriate entry in /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 19:45.06 | rolio25 | Cinelerra requests whenever |
| 19:45.08 | asg | mcdaniels: yep |
| 19:45.13 | Berteun | Yet, the packets appear to leave the host unmasqueraed (using tcpdump) |
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| 19:45.16 | davood | enouf: 1- it isn'n SAN/NAS, 2- kernel is 2.6.18-5-686 please note to this error too http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/sata-fdisk-mount-problem-584632/ |
| 19:45.28 | jeremy_c | abrotman: it has to be on my debian box. do you know what would be blocking it? itables -L is blank. |
| 19:45.29 | enouf | mcdaniels: i killed openbsd-inetd and avahi-daemon and portmap with no i'll affects, but i'm not running any mysql or servers |
| 19:45.30 | asg | mcdaniels: if it looks like it going to remove things you don't want, just disable it with update-rc.d -f openbsd-inetd remove |
| 19:45.39 | davood | enouf: it was the same box/drive with an older kernel |
| 19:45.42 | jochieng | sorry i was kicked out!! but i m back |
| 19:45.56 | enouf | mcdaniels: /msg dpkg rcconf (and update-rc.d) |
| 19:46.08 | mcdaniels | or rcconf |
| 19:46.33 | davood | enouf: it's not on separate PCI card but I think it was on a pci port |
| 19:46.50 | abrotman | jeremy_c: and there's nothing goofy on the router? |
| 19:46.51 | davood | enouf: it was on lspci list |
| 19:47.02 | enouf | davood: well, if it's onboard, it's PCI eother way = just asking about a Card or not |
| 19:47.58 | enouf | 2.6.18-5 is a typical debian version .. but that doesn't answer the question about who rollled it ;-) |
| 19:48.06 | jeremy_c | abrotman: no. The only thing I ever did to it was disable wireless, and change the password. And it works from my windows box. Also, keep in mind the work server that really needs to connect to it is on a totally diff network with the exact same problem. The only thing the same is that we are both running debian etch. |
| 19:48.14 | mcdaniels | ok i ll give it a try tomorrow ... this night the server has to run with both ... i hope that there is no prob during the night.... |
| 19:48.22 | davood | enouf: konfuzed :) |
| 19:48.36 | abrotman | jeremy_c: tried ftp -p ? |
| 19:48.37 | enouf | davood: cat /proc/version |
| 19:48.45 | davood | enouf: ther way = just asking about a Card or not |
| 19:48.51 | ryan52 | I have an archive on a remote server stored in the zip format. How do I unzip it? (I would prefer to not have to scp it to my machine and back) |
| 19:48.52 | enouf | davood: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:48.59 | rolio25 | How file I found the varible shmmax ? |
| 19:49.00 | jeremy_c | abrotman: just did, same result. |
| 19:49.17 | mcdaniels | btw it is not easy tho harden a server because there are a lot of tips to find how to harden it... :) |
| 19:49.18 | asg | rolio25: man sysctl |
| 19:49.19 | enouf | davood: PCI Card controllers vs OnBoard/Integrated |
| 19:49.39 | chops | ryan52: unzip |
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| 19:49.52 | ryan52 | oh, thanks chops |
| 19:49.56 | davood | enouf: 3.1, kernel: 2.6.18-5-686, proc/version: Linux version 2.6.18-5-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 00:47:00 UTC 2007 |
| 19:50.01 | chops | ryan52: np |
| 19:50.09 | enouf | davood: very nice |
| 19:50.17 | abrotman | jeremy_c: i got a system here to do it also |
| 19:50.33 | asg | mcdaniels: install the harden-doc package (there's a good reference there in relation to Debian systems) |
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| 19:50.44 | jeremy_c | abrotman: your on etch? |
| 19:50.56 | ryan52 | do you know what package unzip is in? |
| 19:51.08 | karsten | !tell ryan52 about search |
| 19:51.13 | asg | ryan52: the unzip package |
| 19:51.16 | chops | ryan52: The 'unzip' package. |
| 19:51.18 | abrotman | jeremy_c: yes |
| 19:51.26 | ryan52 | okay, thanks again |
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| 19:51.32 | chops | ryan52: In general, 'apt-cache search unzip' is the way to answer that question. |
| 19:51.33 | Eclipser | hm, is there a backport of rtorrent for etch? backports.org doesn't seem to have one at least |
| 19:51.50 | jeremy_c | abrotman: hm. I've never had to deal with such an ellusive network problem before. I'm to the point of being lost of where to go next. |
| 19:51.54 | asg | Eclipser: you could attempt your own (/msg dpkg simple sid backport) |
| 19:52.17 | mcdaniels | asg: thx |
| 19:52.25 | asg | mcdaniels: you're welcome |
| 19:52.29 | Eclipser | asg, thanks, I'll check it out |
| 19:52.40 | jochieng | strange thing -- i have file /etc/sudoers set to jerry ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL but no luck, i had also apt-get install sudo first, what could be the problem my path to sudo i think is the problem |
| 19:52.40 | rolio25 | sysctl -w kernel/shmmax=7fffffff |
| 19:52.41 | rolio25 | error: "Invalid argument" setting key "kernel.shmmax" |
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| 19:52.50 | enouf | davood: i'll be away from keys for a bit - getting busy here, apologies |
| 19:52.56 | zasf | ciao a tutti |
| 19:53.01 | asg | rolio25: remove the '=' |
| 19:53.14 | asg | rolio25: oh wait, that's wrong |
| 19:53.20 | abrotman | jeremy_c: and -dv doesn't show anything |
| 19:53.28 | chops | jochieng: What behavior do you see from that setup? What is is doing wrong? |
| 19:53.32 | jeremy_c | abrotman: -dv ? |
| 19:53.35 | chops | *is it doing wrong |
| 19:53.37 | asg | rolio25: I don't know if it takes a hex value; you may need to convert to base 10 |
| 19:53.48 | rolio25 | decimal |
| 19:53.50 | rolio25 | ok |
| 19:53.52 | abrotman | jeremy_c: man ftp |
| 19:53.53 | jeremy_c | abrotman: no. |
| 19:54.04 | jochieng | chops: telling me sudo command can not be found |
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| 19:54.15 | abrotman | jeremy_c: from a sarge box i can connect |
| 19:54.20 | asg | jochieng: locate sudo (what does that return) |
| 19:54.27 | abrotman | ftp: setsockopt: Bad file descriptor .. i do get that though |
| 19:54.42 | chops | jochieng: Can you pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l sudo', 'ls -l /usr/bin/sudo', and 'echo $PATH'? |
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| 19:55.09 | chops | jochieng: For extra laughs, can you pastebin your sudo command along with the 'not found' error? |
| 19:55.16 | asg | jeremy_c: you should run tcpdump and see if anything comes back at all for a start. |
| 19:55.16 | rolio25 | ok good thanks |
| 19:56.04 | abrotman | jeremy_c: i have to say though .. i'm inclined to say it's some sort of server misconfiguration .. |
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| 19:56.05 | rolio25 | sysclt command, It is permanent ? |
| 19:56.21 | asg | rolio25: no, /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 19:56.28 | chops | rolio25: Which command? In general it's not. Modifications to /etc/sysctl.conf are. |
| 19:56.38 | jeremy_c | http://pastebin.com/d6853d36d |
| 19:56.52 | asg | rolio25: sysctl.conf(5) will give you the relevant info |
| 19:57.19 | abrotman | jeremy_c: and that's why i say it seems to be a server issue |
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| 19:57.42 | jeremy_c | abrotman: but others here can connect, as well as my windows box, and my old debian server. |
| 19:57.52 | jeremy_c | abrotman: just not my 2 new etch boxes. |
| 19:58.33 | rolio25 | Ok I understood, thx. |
| 19:58.45 | asg | jeremy_c: there could be an inline device between you and the server that is playing silly buggers with non-Windows systems. I do it all the time with OpenBSD. |
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| 19:59.16 | jeremy_c | asg: my old debian box connects fine |
| 19:59.28 | abrotman | jeremy_c: do you have an etch box at the remote site that doesn't pass through firewalls etc? |
| 19:59.42 | asg | jeremy_c: how old? |
| 19:59.57 | jeremy_c | abrotman: yes, it's the one that can't connect. |
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| 20:00.05 | asg | abrotman: dondelelcaro verified it from where he was at. |
| 20:00.11 | jeremy_c | asg: I'm afraid to look how old. At least 2 years. |
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| 20:00.25 | abrotman | jeremy_c: dpkg -l libc6 | tail 1 |
| 20:00.27 | _abc_ | gday |
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| 20:00.38 | abrotman | i'd imagine he means sarge |
| 20:00.43 | abrotman | asg: did don say if it was etch ? |
| 20:00.47 | abrotman | or x86 ? |
| 20:01.00 | asg | abrotman: no, it was early in the processes then. |
| 20:01.08 | _abc_ | Could someone please tell me how to tell hal/hald/NetworkManager to leave my Wlan card alone at boot time ? |
| 20:01.09 | jeremy_c | my current box is debian 4.0, that's etch, right? |
| 20:01.12 | abrotman | yes |
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| 20:01.22 | _abc_ | Also, why is there no automounter in Etch ? |
| 20:01.25 | jeremy_c | abrotman: 2.7-4 |
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| 20:01.31 | asg | jeremy_c: what was the address again of the ftp server. I'll test it from my etch arm box |
| 20:01.34 | abrotman | not on a two year old box |
| 20:01.41 | stew | _abc_: /msg dpkg automount |
| 20:01.41 | jeremy_c | asg: ftp.firsthealth.com |
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| 20:02.09 | abrotman | jeremy_c: with an alpha/etch box i can connect |
| 20:02.12 | raven | Hi! I need help with dbus. Who can help? |
| 20:02.15 | _abc_ | stew, thanks, but I have all 3 DVDs and it's somehow not on them |
| 20:02.34 | jeremy_c | abrotman: this is crazy. I am lost :-/ |
| 20:02.37 | asg | jeremy_c: connects just fine here. |
| 20:03.00 | abrotman | jeremy_c: however all the etch/x86 boxes i tested with have some sort of firewall between or running |
| 20:03.01 | karsten | abrotman: FYI, mean over four searches: auto-apt: 7.195s 1.51s SD. apt-file: 49.067s, 1.82s SD |
| 20:03.02 | jelly-home | since we're taking a poll, that ftp site doesn't work here, too |
| 20:03.12 | _abc_ | In fact, what exactly starts hald ? |
| 20:03.14 | abrotman | karsten: oh .. sure .. use big numbers! |
| 20:03.14 | Eclipser | asg, I wonder why those sid packages from my deb-src aren't showing up in apt-cache search/show |
| 20:03.18 | bahadunn | did someone say alpha? |
| 20:03.22 | stew | _abc_: what's not on them? |
| 20:03.23 | abrotman | bahadunn: i did |
| 20:03.25 | jeremy_c | jelly-home: wait... it doesn't work on your? |
| 20:03.30 | jelly-home | jeremy_c: yup |
| 20:03.33 | bahadunn | abrotman: you have an alpha box? |
| 20:03.38 | abrotman | a few here .. yes |
| 20:03.38 | stew | _abc_: /etc/init.d/dbus starts hald iirc |
| 20:03.40 | karsten | abrotman: apt-file is 6.8 times faster. |
| 20:03.42 | bahadunn | abrotman: cool |
| 20:03.46 | abrotman | AlphaStation 200 or soemthing |
| 20:03.49 | karsten | abrotman: erm, auto-apt is. |
| 20:03.50 | jeremy_c | jelly-home: that makes me feel better, sorta. |
| 20:03.51 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:04.01 | bahadunn | abrotman: I have two ds25 s |
| 20:04.04 | bahadunn | is it ds? |
| 20:04.05 | abrotman | bastard! |
| 20:04.07 | karsten | abrotman: And words. Us married guys get to do that. |
| 20:04.07 | bahadunn | cant remember |
| 20:04.08 | abrotman | no .. alphastations |
| 20:04.10 | jeremy_c | jelly-home: what version are you running? |
| 20:04.14 | asg | jeremy_c: find out if jelly and you share the same ISP |
| 20:04.21 | _abc_ | stew no package called automount. I have the full ls -lR of all four DVDs and it is not there. |
| 20:04.29 | bahadunn | abrotman: http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/ds25/ |
| 20:04.30 | stew | _abc_: yes, there is no package named automount |
| 20:04.32 | _abc_ | stew, thanks for the dbus info |
| 20:04.33 | jelly-home | karsten: /msg dpkg find .... is usually the fastest ;-) |
| 20:04.35 | abrotman | karsten: you're married .. you're not allowed to have an opinion anymore :) |
| 20:04.36 | jeremy_c | jelly-home: I am north east ohio, road runner. |
| 20:04.38 | bahadunn | abrotman: I have two of those |
| 20:04.40 | abrotman | bahadunn: i know what they are |
| 20:04.40 | stew | dpkg: tell _abc_ about automount |
| 20:04.44 | bahadunn | abrotman: running debian of course |
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| 20:04.59 | jeremy_c | asg: but me and my server are on diff sides of the country, diff providers obviously. |
| 20:05.11 | jelly-home | jeremy_c: I'm in Croatia, and _not_ on rr.com ;-) |
| 20:05.12 | war | How come growisofs is not included in Debian 64 bit but only 32bit? |
| 20:05.14 | jeremy_c | asg: and, again, my windows box sitting right next to me works fine. |
| 20:05.20 | tarzeau | how to improve pictures like this? http://gnu.ethz.ch/photos/panorama/altstetten360.jpg |
| 20:05.20 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: so? |
| 20:05.31 | abrotman | jeremy_c: that's a different ftp client and a different OS |
| 20:05.49 | asg | tarzeau: is that a naughty one? |
| 20:05.56 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: abrotman: yes, just saying that the provider is not blocking certian ports or internet addresses. |
| 20:06.16 | jeremy_c | abrotman: also, I've now tried ftp, mozilla, ncftp, cftp and telnet. |
| 20:06.21 | tarzeau | asg: nah, a panorama picture of altstetten (by night, with europebridge) |
| 20:06.39 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: port scan it? |
| 20:07.01 | asg | tarzeau: nice |
| 20:07.03 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: ftp.firsthealth.com ? |
| 20:07.08 | jelly-home | jeremy_c: it works from the internal LAN of my employer, same ISP. |
| 20:07.22 | karsten | jelly-home: If you're connected. |
| 20:07.25 | abrotman | jelly-home: on x86 etch ? |
| 20:07.29 | karsten | abrotman: You're a guy ... |
| 20:07.36 | karsten | abrotman: ... so I can tell you you're wrong. |
| 20:07.41 | jelly-home | abrotman: nope, both of my machines are lenny |
| 20:07.43 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: one second |
| 20:07.44 | karsten | abrotman: I *do* have opinions, they're just wrong. |
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| 20:07.56 | jelly-home | abrotman: and his "etch" has a 2.7-4 libc6! |
| 20:08.03 | Eclipser | I put "deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib" in my sources.list as dpkg told me to... apt-get updated but it still can't find an updated version of libtorrent-dev (it's 0.10.4 (etch)) |
| 20:08.07 | abrotman | jelly-home: no .. that was his two year old machine :) |
| 20:08.13 | karsten | jelly-home: Not if dpkg needs to update its files. |
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| 20:08.16 | abrotman | karsten: hehe |
| 20:08.18 | jelly-home | abrotman: oh, missed it |
| 20:08.21 | jeremy_c | abrotman: no, that was my etch. |
| 20:08.24 | abrotman | oh .. that's not etch |
| 20:08.31 | abrotman | but i still can't connect from x86 etch |
| 20:08.38 | abrotman | at my location anyways |
| 20:08.41 | jelly-home | karsten: it always updates... I think there's a local cache |
| 20:08.53 | jeremy_c | abrotman: hm, it's the current stable, 4.0 release. |
| 20:09.01 | jeremy_c | abrotman: that's etch, right? |
| 20:09.06 | abrotman | yes |
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| 20:09.07 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: I see ftp open |
| 20:09.08 | jelly-home | karsten: and wtf, apt-file also needs updates. |
| 20:09.12 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: but thats it |
| 20:09.13 | abrotman | jeremy_c: but your libc6 isn't etch |
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| 20:09.55 | jeremy_c | abrotman: hm. I did goof up w/dpkg when I was installing sun java 6. Did I upgrade to a newer libc during that time? |
| 20:10.04 | abrotman | it's possible |
| 20:10.10 | abrotman | i wasn't watching :) |
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| 20:10.23 | HardDisk_WP | hi all |
| 20:10.24 | jeremy_c | abrotman: :-) so, my libc is newer than etch? |
| 20:10.32 | abrotman | wtf is ncftpd anyways ? |
| 20:10.37 | bahadunn | I dont knwo |
| 20:10.40 | HardDisk_WP | nvidia seems to have brought out new nvidia gpu beta driver |
| 20:10.41 | bahadunn | but jeremy_c is running it |
| 20:10.45 | HardDisk_WP | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.07 |
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| 20:10.56 | HardDisk_WP | any idea when it will be in debian (sid)? |
| 20:10.57 | bahadunn | 220 aptut258n1.firsthealth.com NcFTPd Server (licensed copy) ready. |
| 20:11.02 | abrotman | HardDisk_WP: when it gets there |
| 20:11.04 | bahadunn | licensed copy? |
| 20:11.16 | jeremy_c | abrotman: http://ncftp.org |
| 20:11.22 | bahadunn | its not in debian |
| 20:11.25 | bahadunn | I dont think its free |
| 20:11.34 | bahadunn | must be some evil ftp server |
| 20:11.35 | abrotman | jeremy_c: the server is debian ? |
| 20:11.36 | HardDisk_WP | it isn't |
| 20:11.39 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: the server is not. I am trying to connect to that server. |
| 20:11.41 | SpeedyG | abrotman: http://www.ncftp.com/ <= ncftpd is the serverdaemon |
| 20:11.50 | HardDisk_WP | bahadunn, but for what does the non-free/contrib repo exist? |
| 20:11.55 | jeremy_c | abrotman: I have no idea what the server is (ftp.firsthealth.com) |
| 20:12.03 | bahadunn | HardDisk_WP: I dont know |
| 20:12.08 | jeremy_c | abrotman: ftp.firsthealth.com is not mine. |
| 20:12.10 | bahadunn | HardDisk_WP: do not use it |
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| 20:12.21 | HardDisk_WP | i do |
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| 20:12.25 | HardDisk_WP | why shouldnt i+ |
| 20:12.27 | bahadunn | HardDisk_WP: great |
| 20:12.30 | bahadunn | HardDisk_WP: keep on truckin |
| 20:12.40 | bahadunn | HardDisk_WP: never said you should not keep using it |
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| 20:12.46 | HardDisk_WP | ^^ |
| 20:12.56 | abrotman | jeremy_c: do you control the ftp server? |
| 20:12.57 | karrotx | are there any major known problems going from sarge to etch? |
| 20:13.04 | jeremy_c | abrotman: no. |
| 20:13.05 | bahadunn | karrotx: not really |
| 20:13.18 | davood | enouf: are you back ? |
| 20:13.21 | karrotx | i'm going to run apt-get dist-upgrade on a live semi production box |
| 20:13.22 | bahadunn | karrotx: you need to take a few steps to ensure you will not have any problems |
| 20:13.23 | abrotman | jeremy_c: you're going to have to start dumping packets to see what's going on |
| 20:13.29 | jelly-home | karrotx: read the release notes |
| 20:13.29 | davood | I bringed it up, |
| 20:13.31 | bahadunn | karrotx: but it is pretty straight forward |
| 20:13.52 | bahadunn | karrotx: http://wiki.debian.org/Sarge2EtchUpgrade |
| 20:14.12 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: yeah dumping packets is a very good idea |
| 20:14.14 | jeremy_c | abrotman: I am just a normal ftp user. That server is owned by a company that we do business with. I have no control/access to it in anyway, except a normal ftp user account to put/get files. |
| 20:14.30 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: what problem are you having? |
| 20:14.44 | abrotman | jeremy_c: but you can still dump packets on your side |
| 20:14.48 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: I cannot connect to it on either of my etch boxes, but every other box I have, I can connect to it. |
| 20:15.03 | bahadunn | maybe he should be zigging instead of zagging? |
| 20:15.09 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: you using passive or active? |
| 20:15.12 | jeremy_c | abrotman: yeah, I'll start on that now, but I am going into areas that I am not familure with. |
| 20:15.21 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: packet capture is a good idea |
| 20:15.35 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: either. I'm not even getting a banner, so active/passive isn't into play yet. |
| 20:15.37 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: you can see what is going on from the network like abrotman is trying to show you |
| 20:16.01 | bahadunn | abrotman: :O |
| 20:16.05 | jeremy_c | abrotman: they take thousands of ftp connections a day, they deal with hackers all the time. |
| 20:16.10 | bahadunn | abrotman: bet its cold up there now eh? |
| 20:16.22 | abrotman | bahadunn: i'm going to wisconsin tomorrow .. it's colder there |
| 20:16.26 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: if they deal with hackers why do they still run ftp? |
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| 20:16.35 | bahadunn | abrotman: I am giong to the beach |
| 20:16.39 | bahadunn | abrotman: for a week |
| 20:16.41 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: don't know. I just use it. That's up to them. |
| 20:16.44 | bahadunn | abrotman: :-P |
| 20:16.59 | jeremy_c | I wanted sftp. Most of our other clients, I am using sftp. |
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| 20:19.35 | jeremy_c | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/d7d161d04 ... that's a tcpdump when I try to connect to them. |
| 20:20.01 | ryan52 | Is it bad to put the same ssh key (id_rsa and authorized_keys) on a bunch of computers so they can all ssh into each other without having to make a unique key for each? |
| 20:20.42 | asg | jeremy_c: do the same again but use 'port ftp and port ftp-data' instead |
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| 20:20.49 | davood | abrotman: I found the device brand/model |
| 20:20.49 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: why do you send a fin packet right after tcp handshake? |
| 20:20.59 | davood | did you see that ? |
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| 20:21.30 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: I don't know. I just did tcpdump and then in another console ran ftpp |
| 20:21.35 | jeremy_c | asg: ok, doing it down. |
| 20:21.36 | cahoot | ryan52: why not simply use empty keys then? |
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| 20:21.47 | ryan52 | whats that? |
| 20:21.56 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: yes that is fine but there is something not right after the handshake and it looks like its on your side |
| 20:22.07 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: you are the one sending the fin packet which closes the connection |
| 20:22.24 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: try what asg suggests |
| 20:22.30 | cahoot | ryan52: empty passphrase |
| 20:22.37 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: and tcpdump that see what it does |
| 20:22.42 | abrotman | davood: and does it match? |
| 20:22.44 | ryan52 | oh, they are |
| 20:22.50 | ryan52 | **it is |
| 20:22.53 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: I'll be honest, you are above me, I don't know what a fin packet is. I'm doing what asg says now. |
| 20:23.09 | ryan52 | but can I just copy it to all of the computers or do I need to run ssh-keygen on each? |
| 20:23.12 | davood | no |
| 20:23.12 | TheViral | http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/ccsm.html does this show that in 8 days ccsm will come to lenny, testing? |
| 20:23.21 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: if you look at what you pasted you will see 4 packets |
| 20:23.24 | TheViral | what would cause it to return to 0? |
| 20:23.30 | cahoot | ryan52: ok I probably don't understand what it is you want to achieve |
| 20:23.39 | abrotman | jeremy_c: can you jump all traffic related to ftp.firsthealth ? |
| 20:23.45 | davood | abrotman: I bringed it up and thee is a message in dmesg abnormal status 0x7F on port |
| 20:23.46 | TheViral | shouldn't there be no listed bugs? for it to get to testing |
| 20:23.48 | LightKnight | TheViral: apparently so: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=ccsm |
| 20:23.54 | abrotman | TheViral: maybe .. maybe not .. |
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| 20:23.59 | jeremy_c | abrotman: how? |
| 20:24.03 | abrotman | TheViral: if no RC bugs are found .. and it doesn't block anything else |
| 20:24.07 | ryan52 | nvm |
| 20:24.09 | abrotman | jeremy_c: you're only watching the ftp port |
| 20:24.09 | davood | abrotman: it was not on that black list |
| 20:24.13 | abrotman | davood: okay |
| 20:24.15 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: the first is a Syn packet from you to remote host on ftp port, the second is a Syn/Ack from remote host back to you, then you Ack back to the remote host |
| 20:24.23 | LightKnight | TheViral: (pending a recompiling on hppa and mipsel) |
| 20:24.27 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: those first 3 packets make up the tcp handshake |
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| 20:24.29 | enouf | davood: i'm around, just barely, you can post info - i'll look when i can, and maybe offer advice if and when i can (try hdX=nodma as a kernel boot parameter, and see if it ends up getting kicked in later, via /etc/hdparm.conf, /etc/init.d/hdparm perhaps) |
| 20:24.43 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: they must occur to establish a connection after which you can send data back and forth |
| 20:24.44 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: ok. Then fin is a "Finished" packet? |
| 20:25.04 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: however right after the handshake you send a fin or finish packet that closes the connection |
| 20:25.05 | abrotman | !fin |
| 20:25.05 | dpkg | [fin] Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors |
| 20:25.08 | abrotman | bah .. useless |
| 20:25.17 | asg | bahadunn: does ftp send a fin if he hits ctrl+c to kill the client? |
| 20:25.22 | TheViral | abrotman: What's an RC bug? Release candidate? And what is I&N? It has two of those bugs |
| 20:25.23 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: that would seem to indicate that your failure to connect to the remote host on ftp port is your problem |
| 20:25.27 | Tramp | bahadunn: This Fin is from another connection. See the client-port. |
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| 20:25.43 | enouf | davood: there's some info about how those older sata controllers (as well as older drives) really use a pata<->sata bridge, instead of true sata |
| 20:25.45 | abrotman | !rc |
| 20:25.45 | dpkg | hmm... rc is Release-critical, or Release Candidate |
| 20:25.52 | abrotman | TheViral: it's a bug that breaks it badly |
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| 20:25.57 | bahadunn | asg: not sure without packet capture it but I would think so if the code in the ftp client handles a keyboard interupt properly |
| 20:25.59 | enouf | davood: at linux-ata.org and that other url i mentioned earlier |
| 20:26.12 | jeremy_c | ok... http://pastebin.com/d55f06844 ... that's 10 packet, ftp and ftp_data |
| 20:26.32 | asg | bahadunn: Tramp might be onto something though |
| 20:26.37 | bahadunn | asg: otherwise I would say that the connection might become stale and the OS would eventually close it down |
| 20:26.50 | guipenguin | hello.. is debian-40r1-i386-CD-1.iso supposed to be bootable? I have burned this iso image multiple times, using two different burning software, and it does not boot - ois this soley a data disk or is this supposed to boot? |
| 20:26.53 | Tramp | bahadunn: asg: this dump too mixes different connections |
| 20:27.01 | bahadunn | Tramp: ah yes I see that |
| 20:27.17 | TheViral | guipenguin: You may not be setting your CD and your boot location |
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| 20:27.24 | TheViral | guipenguin: as* |
| 20:28.09 | guipenguin | TheViral: I have burned other bootable disks today - it's this image me things - as was my question: is this supposed to be bootable? |
| 20:28.38 | Tramp | bahadunn: asg: jeremy_c: for a useful dump, use -vv -n -e and include icmp. |
| 20:28.47 | TheViral | guipenguin: I used the net install and it booted. Do you mean like a live CD? I don't think these are live CDs |
| 20:29.03 | bahadunn | Tramp: I think his connections are timing out |
| 20:29.06 | jeremy_c | Tramp: will -vv -n -e include icmp? or is that something more? |
| 20:29.14 | bahadunn | Tramp: did you see in the newest paste? |
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| 20:29.54 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: he wants you to do a capture with more verbosity, no dns resolution, and -e I am not sure |
| 20:29.58 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: and include icmp |
| 20:30.06 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: asg: Tramp: I really do appriciate your help. |
| 20:30.11 | bahadunn | -e maybe is ethernet fames? |
| 20:30.11 | Tramp | jeremy_c: no. you need "icmp or tcp port 21" |
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| 20:30.42 | Tramp | bahadunn: yes, I saw the latest dump which also had 2 connections mixed up. |
| 20:31.04 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: like this tcpdump -vv -n -e icmp or tcp port 21 |
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| 20:31.07 | jeremy_c | I can't believe you guys get that much information out of this dump. wow. |
| 20:31.15 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: what about the ftp-data port? |
| 20:31.16 | Tramp | bahadunn: this is, however, not a problem - we just look at the one with the first syn. |
| 20:31.27 | bahadunn | Tramp: yes |
| 20:31.27 | guipenguin | TheViral: I suppose I should try the netinstall cd, as well - I figured CD_1 would be bootable, but I guess it just contains packages? |
| 20:31.34 | bahadunn | Tramp: you have a sharp eye |
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| 20:31.47 | Tramp | jeremy_c: as long as the ftp-ctrl is not working, we need no ftp-data. This may be interesting later |
| 20:31.51 | bahadunn | maybe I am getting too old for this stuff |
| 20:32.07 | TheViral | guipenguin: I'm not sure what it contains, when I looked at the site I saw like 20 cds and it scared me so I just went with the net install haha! |
| 20:32.13 | Tramp | bahadunn: well - this and several years experience with stuff like that 8) |
| 20:32.16 | jeremy_c | ok, capturing again. |
| 20:32.25 | bahadunn | -e Print the link-level header on each dump line. |
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| 20:32.42 | bahadunn | Tramp: is the -e in tcpdump the same as in snort? |
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| 20:32.53 | bahadunn | I think -e in snort will dump link-level header as well |
| 20:32.55 | bahadunn | not sure though |
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| 20:33.10 | jeremy_c | http://pastebin.com/d35b1401b ... latest |
| 20:33.14 | guipenguin | TheViral: lol, ok, fair enough. Thanks! |
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| 20:33.35 | davood | enouf: hdparm shows dma is off on sda |
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| 20:33.56 | davood | using_dma flag |
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| 20:34.56 | bahadunn | he is switching ports for some reason |
| 20:35.02 | bahadunn | I cannot tell why |
| 20:35.20 | bahadunn | I can see it but it is strange |
| 20:35.32 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: are you behind any firewall or anything? |
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| 20:35.40 | asg | bahadunn: if the fins were coming from the original connection they would have the same src port |
| 20:35.44 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: I am behing a linksys router. |
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| 20:36.16 | helo | run, it's the fuzz! |
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| 20:36.37 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: no special rules or anything. What I'm not understanding is why I can connect to any other ftp site I try, but not this one (the one I really need to connect to) |
| 20:36.57 | karrotx | to do a dist-upgrade, do you edit your sources and change from sarge to etch? |
| 20:37.02 | karrotx | then run dist-upgrade? |
| 20:37.06 | karrotx | or can you just run dist-upgrade now? |
| 20:37.18 | bahadunn | asg: yes I know but in the past captures shown he completes a handshake and then I have seen the next port after that is one down |
| 20:37.39 | bahadunn | asg: like 192.168.1.101.32970 then 192.168.1.101.32969 |
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| 20:38.03 | bahadunn | karrotx: you change the sources then run aptitude update |
| 20:38.08 | bahadunn | karrotx: then aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 20:38.09 | asg | bahadunn: yeah. Maybe a capture of all traffic to that site would prove interesting. |
| 20:38.15 | Tramp | hmm. I just see the tcp-handshake and nothing else (the 32970). The 32969 ist just again the previous connection. |
| 20:38.17 | karrotx | why aptitude? |
| 20:38.19 | bahadunn | asg: yeah |
| 20:38.22 | bahadunn | karrotx: better |
| 20:38.25 | asg | karrotx: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 20:38.41 | jeremy_c | how can I show all traffic for the site? |
| 20:39.07 | asg | jeremy_c: replace the icmp and ... bit with 'host <ip of server>' |
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| 20:39.18 | jeremy_c | capturing another. |
| 20:40.07 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: you just using a clean etch system? |
| 20:40.13 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: nothing weird with the system or anything? |
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| 20:40.34 | karrotx | asg: right now my sources are testing and sarge, shouldn't it be stable and sarge? |
| 20:40.42 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: I've installed software on it, all using aptitude. Nothing weird. |
| 20:40.44 | karrotx | i'm just taking this box over, been awhile since i've run debian |
| 20:40.48 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: okay |
| 20:40.58 | bahadunn | karrotx: use sarge, etch etc.. |
| 20:41.04 | bahadunn | karrotx: not stable, testing |
| 20:41.14 | karrotx | so i can remove the testing source? |
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| 20:41.25 | bahadunn | karrotx: I dont know about removing it |
| 20:41.26 | karrotx | i'm trying to go to stable, basically |
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| 20:41.34 | bahadunn | but you should change the names to the release code names |
| 20:41.45 | jeremy_c | I am getting things in tcpdump even before I issue the ftp command. |
| 20:41.57 | The_Rebel | does anyone know how to utilize modprobe options on startup? |
| 20:41.57 | asg | jeremy_c: is anything on your machine still talking to that site? |
| 20:41.58 | bahadunn | karrotx: if you track the current stable and then the new stable comes out you may accidentally upgrade to the new stable when you are not ready |
| 20:42.10 | bahadunn | karrotx: where as if you used the code names you would not have this problem |
| 20:42.11 | jeremy_c | no. |
| 20:42.18 | bahadunn | karrotx: it is just safer is all |
| 20:42.20 | abrotman | can't he dump all traffic to/from that IP ? |
| 20:42.26 | The_Rebel | do i just create "/etc/modprobe.d/options"? |
| 20:42.29 | jeremy_c | abrotman: that's what I'm doing now. |
| 20:42.31 | asg | abrotman: yes, that's what we are having him do |
| 20:42.31 | bahadunn | abrotman: yeah |
| 20:42.32 | abrotman | ok |
| 20:42.45 | asg | jeremy_c: well, capture it and we'll see I guess. |
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| 20:43.22 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: netstat -ntp | grep 21 shows what? |
| 20:43.23 | jeremy_c | http://pastebin.com/d768e7f1c |
| 20:43.29 | coondogster | is there a IRC room for hardware? |
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| 20:44.01 | Bishop | Hi, someone knows something about Openssi with Debian Etch? |
| 20:44.08 | stew | coondogster: #hardware |
| 20:44.09 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: two FIN_WAIT1 lines to ftp.firsthealth.com's ip. |
| 20:44.25 | bahadunn | hhmmmm |
| 20:44.36 | The_Rebel | anyone.. modprobe options.. |
| 20:44.37 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: nothing with established? |
| 20:44.57 | jeremy_c | no, not in netstat. |
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| 20:45.06 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: that's when I am not active in ftp. |
| 20:45.06 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: would have thought you would have one connection established for what you just pasted for |
| 20:45.16 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: do you want me to get active in ftp, then run it? |
| 20:45.32 | Bishop | Hello, anyone knows something about Openssi with Debian Etch? |
| 20:45.35 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: sure whatever that means |
| 20:45.39 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: I thought you were wondering about the activity I was seeing in tcpdump when ftp was not active. sorry. |
| 20:45.40 | bahadunn | Bishop: no |
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| 20:46.08 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: you say this happens on more then one etch machine? |
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| 20:46.41 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: can you do a capture and run telnet remote_host 21? |
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| 20:46.48 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: just to see what happens |
| 20:46.48 | jeremy_c | http://pastebin.com/d38df6c2c ... that's w/netstat at bottom. |
| 20:47.15 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: yes, two of mine, and some have reported they cannot connect to the site here on irc. One was in Croatia. Same problem as me. |
| 20:47.18 | bahadunn | ah so you do have one established connection |
| 20:47.40 | davood | enouf: let me ask why loaded module is piix while controller is sil3112 |
| 20:47.58 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: I have a windows box that works fine, an old debian (2 years old) that works, and 2 etch's, both of which do not work. |
| 20:48.28 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: seems like maybe you complete a handshake then the connection is lost or blocked or something so then your session times out and we see the fin packet |
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| 20:48.46 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: problem is figure out why |
| 20:48.52 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: would be helpful to have logs from ftp server |
| 20:49.01 | abrotman | he doesn't control it |
| 20:49.02 | Tramp | jeremy_c: please do the netcat (or telnet) as bahadunn suggested and tell us, if you get a response |
| 20:49.05 | bahadunn | I know |
| 20:49.15 | bahadunn | but it would still be helpful to have logs from ftp server |
| 20:49.20 | abrotman | Tramp: he can't connect with telnet <ip> 21 either |
| 20:49.20 | jeremy_c | http://pastebin.com/d6cde9a60 ... that is tcpdump capture of when I do telnet ftp.firsthealth.com ftp |
| 20:49.22 | Arelis | Hi all. I just installed debian and now my screen resolution looks weird and pressed together. My videocard is an ATI Radeon 9600 and my monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 940MW |
| 20:49.26 | Arelis | Can anyone help me? |
| 20:49.38 | bahadunn | abrotman: I still want to see the tcpdump from telnet |
| 20:49.47 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: just pasted. |
| 20:49.52 | wols | Arelis: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 20:50.01 | wols | Arelis: what driver do you want to use ati or fglrx? |
| 20:50.05 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: and you get no ftp banner right? |
| 20:50.10 | Arelis | wols, whichever works best |
| 20:50.16 | wols | !best |
| 20:50.16 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 20:50.17 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: right, no banner. |
| 20:50.28 | Arelis | wols, Desktop use, compiz, gaming, nexuiz. |
| 20:50.48 | wols | for compiz ati, for gaming xflrx |
| 20:50.51 | wols | *fglrx |
| 20:50.55 | bahadunn | so something is wrong deeper then just the ftp client |
| 20:50.56 | Arelis | i'll choose fglrx |
| 20:51.16 | wols | !tell Arelis about fglrx |
| 20:51.31 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: I will capture my telnet session to show you what it should be like |
| 20:51.37 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: I am running lenny by the way |
| 20:51.46 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: I've tried telnet, ftp,ncftp, mozilla and cftp, all give same result. |
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| 20:52.11 | Arelis | wolffc, "Couldn't find package fglrx-driver" |
| 20:52.13 | Arelis | wols* |
| 20:52.50 | wols | Arelis: you didn't read the full factoid. contrib and non-free |
| 20:52.58 | Tramp | abrotman: I am confused by the "win 46" - isn't that the tcp-window-size the client announces? |
| 20:53.16 | Arelis | wols, ah, sorry :) |
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| 20:53.25 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: http://rafb.net/p/kgCulM45.html |
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| 20:53.41 | abrotman | Tramp: the length is 40 |
| 20:53.47 | abrotman | Tramp: i assume that's the window number |
| 20:54.09 | abrotman | erm .. length varies .. sorry |
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| 20:54.28 | Arelis | wols, hmm, even with it enabled it can't find it |
| 20:54.38 | abrotman | where's sng when you need him :) |
| 20:54.50 | Arelis | oh, wait, wrong repos |
| 20:54.50 | asg | abrotman: in obsd playing battleship |
| 20:54.55 | abrotman | figures! slacker |
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| 20:55.15 | asg | no, they are talking about cat fats now |
| 20:55.18 | asg | *farts |
| 20:55.19 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: hm. from our debugging I am learning more, but I don't know what all those packets mean in your paste. |
| 20:55.23 | enouf | davood: ok, 1st how do you know that module's being used by sil3112? (piix is a standard chipset module) - paste output of "udevinfo -q all -n /dev/sda" assuming sda is your drive name, also "lshal | grep driver" |
| 20:55.34 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: first 3 are handshake |
| 20:55.48 | asg | jeremy_c: there's a syn syn/ack ack (3 way handshake) the rest are psh and acks |
| 20:55.52 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: then I am pushing data with P packets |
| 20:56.04 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: for each of my pushes the remote host is acking them |
| 20:56.12 | abrotman | bahadunn: you're on x86 etch ? |
| 20:56.15 | Tramp | bahadunn: abrotman: hmm - see, your window-size is 92 and so is mine here, but for jeremy_c it's 46 |
| 20:56.28 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: then I issue quit command and the remote host sends a fin packet which I respond to he acks it and thats it |
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| 20:56.40 | bahadunn | abrotman: yes |
| 20:56.44 | bahadunn | x86 lenny |
| 20:56.50 | abrotman | lenny isn't etch! |
| 20:56.55 | bahadunn | let me try from a etch box I have |
| 20:56.56 | Tramp | the server-reply (the banner) is 70 bytes long. So my wild guess is, the server sends an icmp-packet which is blocked on the router |
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| 20:57.01 | bahadunn | abrotman: yes I am aware of that |
| 20:57.04 | abrotman | bahadunn: try to at least match the situation :) |
| 20:57.06 | Arelis | wols, FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-486/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 20:57.17 | jeremy_c | does S mean hand shake? like P means push? |
| 20:57.23 | Arelis | wols, |
| 20:57.27 | Arelis | robins-desktop-computer:~# whoami |
| 20:57.27 | Arelis | root |
| 20:57.27 | asg | jeremy_c: no, S = SYN |
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| 20:57.36 | asg | jeremy_c: synchronize |
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| 20:57.54 | jelly-home | Arelis: is "radeon" module perhaps already loaded? |
| 20:57.57 | Tramp | jeremy_c: is your router blocking icmp?= |
| 20:57.58 | enouf | davood: $ sudo modinfo sata_sil (i suppose sata_sil is the correct module needed - and that will show you any avail params you can pass it / set it t) |
| 20:58.02 | jeremy_c | Ok. I think I am getting it now. |
| 20:58.09 | bahadunn | abrotman: shush |
| 20:58.09 | abrotman | Tramp: i don't remember all my networking stuff .. but notice how there are two lengths? .. i presume one is the size with header .. the other the actual data ? |
| 20:58.14 | Arelis | jelly-home, yes |
| 20:58.18 | jeremy_c | Tramp: not that I am aware of. |
| 20:58.23 | jelly-home | Arelis: you'll need to get rid of it |
| 20:58.30 | abrotman | Tramp: notice they are all off by 14 |
| 20:58.33 | odysseas | hi all, is the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist the correct file to put modules I dont want loaded? |
| 20:58.34 | jeremy_c | Tramp: I know you cannot ping ftp.firsthealth.com, they must be blocking. |
| 20:58.35 | bahadunn | hhhmmm |
| 20:58.39 | abrotman | oh .. wait .. no |
| 20:58.40 | bahadunn | I have same problem with etch |
| 20:58.41 | Arelis | jelly-home, |
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| 20:58.44 | Arelis | robins-desktop-computer:~# rmmod radeon |
| 20:58.44 | Arelis | ERROR: Module radeon is in use |
| 20:58.53 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: you cannot connect to it via etch? |
| 20:58.55 | jelly-home | Arelis: stop X first |
| 20:58.58 | bahadunn | no |
| 20:59.07 | bahadunn | well I should say yes I can |
| 20:59.08 | asg | jeremy_c: just for the hell of it, paste the output of '/sbin/iptables -vL' |
| 20:59.12 | Arelis | jelly-home, how do i start an IRC chat in the console? |
| 20:59.14 | bahadunn | but after the connection I get nothing |
| 20:59.20 | abrotman | bahadunn: you can start .. but not actually do anything useful :0 |
| 20:59.21 | bahadunn | after handshake I should say |
| 20:59.21 | abrotman | :) |
| 20:59.22 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: yeah, that's what happens here. |
| 20:59.25 | jelly-home | Arelis: irssi is a common irc client |
| 20:59.25 | bahadunn | right |
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| 20:59.31 | pequatre | -fr |
| 20:59.32 | bahadunn | either etch has a bug |
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| 20:59.39 | bahadunn | or this remote host does not like etch |
| 20:59.42 | asg | bahadunn: x86 since both arm and alpha can do it |
| 20:59.53 | bahadunn | asg: ah I did not know that |
| 20:59.54 | abrotman | bahadunn: are your alphas running etch? |
| 20:59.56 | Tramp | abrotman: well the "length" is the length of the packet, but the "win xx" has something to do with the tcp sliding window (and, I think, also with path-mtu-discovery, but I may be wrong here) |
| 20:59.58 | bahadunn | abrotman: yes |
| 21:00.05 | abrotman | bahadunn: try from oneo f them |
| 21:00.06 | bahadunn | abrotman: but they are not accessible for me at the moment |
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| 21:00.12 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 21:00.24 | bahadunn | here is my packet capture from etch |
| 21:00.27 | stew | Tramp: "wscale" shows what the tcp window scaling is set to |
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| 21:00.34 | jeremy_c | iptables ... http://rafb.net/p/zl9X4W81.html |
| 21:00.36 | pequatre | hi. how do i know which debian version i have installed ? is there a txt file somewhere where this information is entered ? thx. |
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| 21:00.46 | Ronin | pequatre: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:00.50 | stew | Tramp: so in that paste, it wasn't a window size of 92, it was a window size of 92 * 2^6 |
| 21:01.03 | jelly-home | Tramp: I have the same issue when accessing from a lenny machine, tried disabling pmtu but it didn't help. Could be my router is at fault, though (it's running linux as well) |
| 21:01.03 | pequatre | Ronin, thx |
| 21:01.04 | bahadunn | I have uncovered something else I think |
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| 21:01.08 | bahadunn | hold on for capture |
| 21:01.09 | Arelis | wols: alright i'm back |
| 21:01.14 | Arelis | wols: stopped X |
| 21:01.35 | Arelis | wols: unloaded radeon |
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| 21:01.46 | bahadunn | http://rafb.net/p/d9mZ0m27.html |
| 21:01.57 | jelly-home | Arelis: did modprobe fglrx work now? |
| 21:02.00 | bahadunn | as you can see I connect then I try to issue some commands like quit etc... |
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| 21:02.11 | bahadunn | you can see my push packets in the dump |
| 21:02.15 | bahadunn | but no responses |
| 21:02.16 | Arelis | wols: i get this: |
| 21:02.16 | Arelis | [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 681 MBytes. |
| 21:02.17 | Arelis | [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed |
| 21:02.17 | Arelis | FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-486/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 21:02.17 | *** kick/#debian [Arelis!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
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| 21:02.19 | Tramp | stew: ah, thanks for the insight |
| 21:02.20 | bahadunn | the server does not like me I think |
| 21:02.31 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: the server is not blocking anyone. |
| 21:02.47 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: yes but it is not responding to me either |
| 21:03.01 | bahadunn | I wonder if this affects amd64 etch |
| 21:03.05 | asg | bahadunn: the question is, is there a difference between the tcp fields on x86 etch and arm / alpha such that something using p0f for fingerprinting would cause this? |
| 21:03.15 | davood | udev info: http://paste.debian.net/45287 |
| 21:03.46 | bahadunn | seems like it does affect amd64 as well |
| 21:03.51 | Arelis | wols: are you there? |
| 21:03.52 | davood | enouf: where can I find the controller |
| 21:04.02 | TheViral | yay, job interview tomorrow |
| 21:04.04 | bahadunn | asg: interesting |
| 21:04.09 | davood | enouf: I'm not sure about sil |
| 21:04.14 | asg | bahadunn: for what it's worth OS/X 10.4.11 is not affected either. |
| 21:04.28 | Arelis | wols? |
| 21:04.38 | Arelis | Guys, i get this error when i try to install fglrx: |
| 21:04.46 | Arelis | (it's only 3 lines, so please don't kick me) |
| 21:04.51 | bahadunn | unfortunately I must leave now |
| 21:05.00 | Arelis | [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 681 MBytes. |
| 21:05.00 | Arelis | [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed |
| 21:05.00 | Arelis | FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-486/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 21:05.02 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: thanks for your help today. |
| 21:05.06 | bahadunn | be back later |
| 21:05.08 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: no problem |
| 21:05.15 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: I hope you solve the issue |
| 21:05.23 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: I would have liked to investigate more |
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| 21:05.29 | abrotman | maybe an ipv6 issue? |
| 21:05.36 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: it's a business partner, I'm going to be in trouble if I can't |
| 21:05.45 | stiv2k | hey is it possible to hook up a notebook hard drive into a desktop PC? |
| 21:05.51 | stiv2k | do they use the same IDE connectors? |
| 21:05.51 | abrotman | jeremy_c: have you asked their admin what they get on their end? |
| 21:05.52 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: you will |
| 21:05.58 | abrotman | stiv2k: no .. but they sell converters |
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| 21:06.02 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: positive thinking remember? |
| 21:06.09 | stiv2k | abrotman: so it is technically possible then? |
| 21:06.09 | Arelis | can anyone please help me? |
| 21:06.12 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: hm, that works :-/ :-D |
| 21:06.17 | Tramp | bahadunn: but it worked for you before, didn't it -you posted a working dump before? |
| 21:06.39 | asg | Tramp: the working dump was on lenny, not etch |
| 21:06.43 | abrotman | stiv2k: yes .. check newegg or something |
| 21:06.50 | stiv2k | abrotman: cool |
| 21:06.55 | Tramp | asg: ah, got it. |
| 21:06.59 | jeremy_c | abrotman: yeah, I spoke to them briefly and they basically said, fix your computer, we have thousands of connections every day an no reported problems, and everywhere we tried to connect from it works fine. |
| 21:07.06 | asg | Tramp: basically, it seems that we've isolated the problem to etch on i386 |
| 21:07.11 | jeremy_c | abrotman: they said they do see me connect, but do not see me login. |
| 21:07.17 | abrotman | jeremy_c: duh :) |
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| 21:07.45 | Tramp | asg: the only difference I see is win46/scale7 (not working) and win92/scale6 (working) |
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| 21:07.56 | enouf | davood: pastebin output of lsmod and lspci -n |
| 21:07.57 | abrotman | jeremy_c: hrm .. you say this is an etch box? is it total production or just yours ? |
| 21:08.16 | abrotman | jeremy_c: i wonder about getting a backported kernel from backports.org |
| 21:08.18 | asg | Tramp: true |
| 21:08.31 | jeremy_c | abrotman: I have one in production, then my laptop. Both of which are fresh installs of etch w/me installing softare via aptitude. |
| 21:08.38 | enouf | davood: are you using that card for RAID at all? |
| 21:08.38 | Tramp | and what we expect at this stage is a server-packet (the banner) |
| 21:08.48 | jeremy_c | abrotman: so, right now I am working on my laptop. I can goof w/it if we need to. |
| 21:08.51 | abrotman | jeremy_c: okay .. can you reboot the laptop at will ? |
| 21:09.01 | enouf | (btw - Asus' site sucks ass) |
| 21:09.05 | abrotman | http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 21:09.10 | abrotman | let's try a backported kernel |
| 21:09.12 | jeremy_c | abrotman: yes, but I am on IRC on it. I can, however, move to IRC on the desktop. |
| 21:09.24 | davood | enouf: no raid at all |
| 21:09.34 | Arelis | can somebody read my messages, or are they unreadable to you guys? |
| 21:09.55 | abrotman | jeremy_c: i say this because the version of ftp in etch and lenny are the same |
| 21:10.00 | abrotman | Arelis: what'd you say? |
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| 21:10.05 | Arelis | Guys, i get this error when i try to install fglrx: |
| 21:10.16 | Arelis | _[fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 681 MBytes. |
| 21:10.16 | Arelis | [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed |
| 21:10.16 | Arelis | FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-486/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 21:10.33 | jeremy_c | abrotman: reading now. |
| 21:10.42 | cahoot | Arelis: as root? |
| 21:10.45 | abrotman | jeremy_c: that way you can keep most of etch .. but with the newer kernel |
| 21:10.46 | davood | enouf: http://paste.debian.net/45290 |
| 21:10.50 | Arelis | You see, i'm trying to configure Xorg, and my videocard is an ATI Radeon 9600, and i need fglrx... so i'm trying to install it. I'm unable to use X right now |
| 21:10.52 | Arelis | cahoot: yes |
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| 21:10.57 | abrotman | jeremy_c: of course .. then the issue becomes, do you want to run a backported kernel on your server |
| 21:10.58 | ryan52 | Arelis: are you using module-assistant? |
| 21:11.09 | Arelis | ryan52: the sentence the dpkg-bot in this channel gave me |
| 21:11.14 | Arelis | !fglrx one-liner |
| 21:11.14 | dpkg | well, fglrx one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Contrib and non-free sources needed. ask me about <non-free sources> |
| 21:11.14 | davood | enouf: http://paste.debian.net/45291 |
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| 21:11.19 | jeremy_c | abrotman: at this point in time, I need it to work, so, if that makes it work, yes. |
| 21:11.40 | abrotman | okay then! |
| 21:11.42 | abrotman | let's party! |
| 21:11.43 | gynterkk | hello |
| 21:11.46 | abrotman | !dance |
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| 21:11.53 | enouf | davood: apologies, i want lspci -nn |
| 21:12.09 | Tramp | abrotman: jeremy_c (and perhaps stew): Could this be the problem: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2007/01/msg00646.html |
| 21:12.10 | Arelis | abrotman: that's what i said |
| 21:12.23 | gynterkk | etch+xfce4, xfce mount plugin is installed, but when I plug my usb mem stick in I can't see it in list |
| 21:12.25 | gynterkk | any ideas? |
| 21:12.31 | abrotman | jeremy_c: try what Tramp posted first |
| 21:12.33 | Tramp | abrotman: jeremy_c: It confirms my assumption, that some router in between is broken (in the follow-ups) |
| 21:12.48 | gynterkk | usb stick is linux/win/mac compatible |
| 21:12.49 | asg | Tramp: easy enough for him to test |
| 21:12.54 | abrotman | jeremy_c: you there? |
| 21:12.58 | abrotman | ACK! |
| 21:13.02 | jeremy_c | abrotman: yes. trying now. |
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| 21:13.22 | abrotman | SYN? :) |
| 21:13.32 | asg | abrotman: those aren't the problem, it's the bloody FINs |
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| 21:14.14 | stew | Tramp: it can be a problem, but routers having a problem with window scaling should be rare at this point. mind you I have no idea what problem you guys are discussing, i only saw you wondering about window scaling and chimed in becuase i figured it out when i was trying to wrongfully blame a problem on scaling in the recent paste |
| 21:14.16 | davood | enouf: -nn = -n |
| 21:14.19 | enouf | davood: notice lines 38-40 (lsmod ouput), libata, ata_piix, scsi_mod - those are you disk drivers - now, i don't see sil3112 in your mobo specs anywhere yet |
| 21:14.19 | stew | past* |
| 21:14.27 | enouf | davood: ouch |
| 21:14.35 | enouf | davood: not here |
| 21:14.47 | stew | Tramp: the remote site not supporting scaling is probably more likely than a router in between not supporting it |
| 21:14.48 | enouf | davood: then just lspci |
| 21:14.54 | jeremy_c | COOL! |
| 21:14.57 | jeremy_c | It's working. |
| 21:15.02 | Tramp | stew: ah, ok 8) Thanks for your input though, it set me on the right track. |
| 21:15.03 | asg | stew: essentially, jeremy_c can't ftp to a site while running etch on x86 hardware but other arches and versions of debian do not exhibit the problem |
| 21:15.05 | davood | you want this |
| 21:15.05 | davood | 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage Controller (rev 02) |
| 21:15.17 | asg | Tramp: you rock |
| 21:15.22 | Tramp | jeremy_c: hehe, I knew I was on the right track ;) |
| 21:15.22 | jeremy_c | echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling made it work. |
| 21:15.25 | asg | !Tramp++ |
| 21:15.34 | Arelis | ryan52: the sentence the dpkg-bot in this channel gave me |
| 21:15.36 | Arelis | !fglrx one-liner |
| 21:15.36 | dpkg | it has been said that fglrx one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Contrib and non-free sources needed. ask me about <non-free sources> |
| 21:15.37 | jeremy_c | Tramp: thank you VERY muchh |
| 21:15.46 | abrotman | Tramp: nicwe find! |
| 21:15.46 | abrotman | nice too |
| 21:15.46 | Arelis | ryan52: are you there? |
| 21:15.47 | jelly-home | jeremy_c: that implies the remote has a broken TCP implementation... win95? |
| 21:15.52 | Tramp | jeremy_c: np. Was a nice puzzle 8) |
| 21:15.54 | jeremy_c | will this stick during a reboot? |
| 21:15.54 | Arelis | abrotman: can you help me please? |
| 21:15.57 | ryan52 | Arelis: just run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" now |
| 21:15.58 | stew | jeremy_c: the right place to set that permanantly is /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 21:16.03 | asg | jeremy_c: use /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 21:16.06 | Arelis | ryan52: but the module won't laod |
| 21:16.09 | jeremy_c | fixing now. |
| 21:16.10 | davood | enouf: I wnat to know which controller is on my hard drive sil3112 or something else |
| 21:16.15 | Arelis | [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 681 MBytes. |
| 21:16.15 | Arelis | [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed |
| 21:16.15 | Arelis | FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-486/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 21:16.19 | ryan52 | when I did it it already was loaded |
| 21:16.22 | Arelis | that's the error i get when i do 'modprobe fglrx' |
| 21:16.23 | asg | cool, I can grab a smoke now |
| 21:16.26 | abrotman | heh |
| 21:16.33 | Tramp | jeremy_c: But, as stew pointed out, it is probably the other side having a problem with window-scaling |
| 21:16.33 | ryan52 | check lsmod and see id its there |
| 21:16.35 | enouf | davood: there's 5 things you gave yet to show us |
| 21:16.40 | jeremy_c | asg: abrotman: Tramp: thanks again for helping me with this. |
| 21:16.42 | enouf | s/gave/have |
| 21:16.44 | ryan52 | Arelis: check lsmod and see id its there |
| 21:16.52 | abrotman | jeremy_c: now .. you may want to tell the other guys .. but i doubt they care much |
| 21:16.53 | ryan52 | s/id/if/ |
| 21:16.55 | Arelis | ryan52: nope |
| 21:16.57 | Tramp | jeremy_c: You may point it out to them, maybe they have some FAQ/Troubleshooting page |
| 21:17.27 | Arelis | ryan52: it isn't there |
| 21:17.28 | enouf | davood: there's only a logic controller on your hdd - the drivers from the kernel are for your "controller" not your HDD |
| 21:17.34 | jeremy_c | Ok. I am going to tell them, however, I don't know what the problem is. |
| 21:17.36 | Tramp | jeremy_c: although I doubt they would add "echo 0 > ...." as advice there. |
| 21:17.42 | enouf | davood: there are no HDD controllers |
| 21:17.54 | abrotman | jeremy_c: i'd just send them an email .. and say "This URL gave me the hint on how to solve the issue, but I don't know the actual issue" |
| 21:18.01 | abrotman | wow .. poorly worded :) |
| 21:18.10 | ryan52 | Arelis: check if the radeon module is loaded |
| 21:18.20 | Arelis | ryan52: i unloaded it just 5 minutes ago.. so no |
| 21:18.26 | wols | if it'S not permitted: are you root? |
| 21:18.26 | Arelis | robins-desktop-computer:~# lsmod | grep radeon |
| 21:18.26 | Arelis | robins-desktop-computer:~# |
| 21:18.30 | enouf | davood: that said, make sure AHCI is enabled in the BIOS and paste output of those other 5 things i mentioned, like dmesg, lspci, lshal - otherwise i will ignore you |
| 21:18.32 | Arelis | wols: yes |
| 21:18.34 | abrotman | who is robin?! |
| 21:18.37 | wols | Arelis: dpkg -l |grep fglrx |
| 21:18.45 | Arelis | abrotman: i'm new to Debian./ |
| 21:18.51 | wols | Arelis: are you _really_ running a 486? |
| 21:18.55 | jeremy_c | abrotman: the URL w/the email? That didn't seem to explain the problem? |
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| 21:19.00 | Arelis | wolffc: 486? |
| 21:19.09 | wols | Arelis: what cpu do you have? |
| 21:19.35 | Arelis | wols: model name : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2800+ |
| 21:19.37 | jeremy_c | Was it their fault or mine? |
| 21:19.47 | wols | Arelis: get a -k7 kernel then |
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| 21:19.54 | wols | Arelis: and pastebin the dpkg output I asked for |
| 21:19.56 | Arelis | wols: is that why it doesn't work? |
| 21:20.01 | wols | no it's not |
| 21:20.05 | Arelis | wols: can't. Unable to use X |
| 21:20.13 | abrotman | jeremy_c: no, but http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tcp_window_scaling+ftp&btnG=Google+Search .. might find something for you |
| 21:20.16 | wols | you don't need to use X to install stuff |
| 21:20.24 | wols | Arelis: aptitude install <stuff> |
| 21:20.30 | Arelis | wols: which thing do i need for pastebin? |
| 21:20.40 | wols | dpkg -l |grep fglrx |
| 21:20.40 | dpkg | ii |grep fglrx 1.7-12.2 wols's private porn collection |
| 21:20.44 | abrotman | jeez .. that's a really old bug it seems |
| 21:21.11 | enouf | besides, that asus model mobo you told us "ASUS P5LD2-VM" uses Intel 945G Express / Intel ICH7 - not ICH 5 |
| 21:21.33 | Arelis | wols: which thing do i need for pastebin? |
| 21:21.44 | wols | Arelis: dpkg -l |grep fglrx |
| 21:22.08 | Arelis | wols: i mean which program do i need to paste to pastebin from the console |
| 21:22.12 | *** part/#debian Hypergraphe (n=Hypergra@pluto.info.unicaen.fr) |
| 21:22.21 | wols | !pastewithoutx |
| 21:22.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
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| 21:22.36 | wols | Arelis: a text mode browser. lynx, links or similar |
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| 21:22.42 | enouf | and just for that, i am now ignoring you |
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| 21:22.53 | davood | enouf: thanks for your help, I'm remote to the box. I'll ask someone to check it and maybe we talk later. |
| 21:23.24 | gynterkk | anyone ? |
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| 21:24.40 | davood | enouf: one more question, is there any plan for troubleshooting this kind of probelms, what are you searching for or planning in your questions ? |
| 21:24.50 | stew | heh, ftp.firsthealh.com doesn't have anything xprobe2 can use to profile, but www.firsthealh.com gives "Host 66.45.252.237 Running OS: "HP JetDirect ROM G.08.08 EEPROM G.08.04" (Guess probability: 91%)" |
| 21:24.58 | Arelis | wols: okay i've pasted it now how do i get the URL? |
| 21:25.10 | *** part/#debian diveli (n=diveli@mail3.ie.com.au) |
| 21:25.41 | abrotman | stew: i'm no expert .. but that seems bad :) |
| 21:25.43 | asg | stew: woah :) |
| 21:26.27 | Arelis | wols: okay i've pasted it now how do i get the URL? |
| 21:26.57 | stew | i have a feeling that xprobe2 is grasping at straws there |
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| 21:27.09 | Tramp | They run their website on a printer. |
| 21:27.18 | asg | stew: it may be some old procurve or something |
| 21:27.35 | abrotman | Arelis: http://paste.debian.net/45293 |
| 21:27.52 | stew | oh ftp. does give the same thing once you point it at the ftp port |
| 21:27.53 | asg | Tramp: I run mine on a linksys nas appliance |
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| 21:28.26 | Arelis | wols: yes i know but now i can't get the url of the pasted snippet to give to yoy |
| 21:28.33 | Tramp | asg: why not 8) |
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| 21:29.42 | asg | Tramp: :) Linux gimp 2.6.18-5-ixp4xx #1 Thu Oct 11 20:42:54 UTC 2007 armv5tel GNU/Linux |
| 21:30.01 | Arelis | wols: and paster doesn't say anything |
| 21:30.09 | Arelis | there's not even a 'paster' present here |
| 21:30.16 | asg | and yes, the reboot for the kernel security update will happen tonight |
| 21:30.23 | CalJohn | I'm having a permissions problem with nfs. I have "/home/cal/iso 192.168.*.*(rw,sync) 127.0.0.1(rw,sync)" in the /etc/exports of the serving machine, and am running "mount 192.168.0.2:/home/cal/iso /home/cosmonaut/iso/" on the client machine. However, I get the error "mount.nfs: 192.168.0.2:/home/cal/iso failed, reason given by server: Permission denied" and do not understand why. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 21:31.13 | Arelis | wols: http://paste.debian.net/45293 |
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| 21:31.19 | Arelis | wols: that's the paste |
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| 21:33.49 | jeremy_c | so, ftp.firsthealth.com is running Linux? |
| 21:34.02 | Tramp | CalJohn: Is reverse resolution for the client working on the server? |
| 21:34.15 | gynterkk | etch+xfce4, xfce mount plugin is installed, but when I plug my usb mem stick in I can't see it in list |
| 21:34.28 | CalJohn | Tramp: what exactly do you mean? |
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| 21:34.32 | abrotman | jeremy_c: i believe so .. but ncftpd is a pay-for product |
| 21:35.07 | Tramp | CalJohn: if, on the server, you type "host 192.168.0.2" - does it resolve to a name? |
| 21:35.27 | CalJohn | Tramp: "Host 2.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)" |
| 21:35.32 | Arelis | wols: are you there? |
| 21:35.35 | Arelis | wols: http://paste.debian.net/45293 |
| 21:35.36 | Arelis | wols: are you there? |
| 21:35.52 | Tramp | CalJohn: 0.2 is the client, right? |
| 21:35.52 | CalJohn | Tramp: I'm guessing that's the issue right there, but I don't understand what that is. |
| 21:36.08 | CalJohn | Tramp: 0.2 is the server |
| 21:36.17 | CalJohn | Tramp: 0.3 is the client |
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| 21:36.34 | Tramp | CalJohn: ic. try it with 192.168.0.3 (on the server) |
| 21:36.42 | CalJohn | same error. |
| 21:36.43 | Tramp | but it will be the same I bet |
| 21:36.45 | Tramp | won |
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| 21:37.14 | Tramp | CalJohn: In the /etc/hosts of the server, make an entry for the client |
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| 21:37.50 | CalJohn | Tramp: ok, but what kind of entry? why doesn't 192.168.0.3 resolve to the client machine? |
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| 21:38.13 | Tramp | CalJohn: why should it? Do you server the 192.168-zone on an internal DNS server? |
| 21:38.25 | Tramp | s/server/serve/ |
| 21:38.36 | chuck | does anyone have an idea why every other time i turn on my computer, the screen goes black after the start up text? |
| 21:39.10 | Ronin | chuck: more information please |
| 21:39.16 | CalJohn | I haven't read anything about networking at all yet. I have a netgear router which I thought did this. Does it not?? |
| 21:39.22 | Tramp | CalJohn: any entry you fancy, like "192.168.0.3 myclient" |
| 21:39.26 | chuck | uhh |
| 21:39.29 | chuck | i use gnome |
| 21:39.34 | Arelis | This is kind of annoying. Everytime i get helped the person who helps me leaves and i have to else someone else, who then leaves too. |
| 21:39.37 | chuck | ibm thinkpad t21 |
| 21:39.40 | chuck | debian 4.0 |
| 21:39.44 | Arelis | ask* |
| 21:39.45 | Arelis | else=ask |
| 21:39.47 | Tramp | CalJohn: no. It forwards all nameservice-requests to the dns of your provider |
| 21:39.48 | Ronin | black as in the monitor is black or cmd line |
| 21:40.11 | CalJohn | Tramp: ok, but then why does ssh work into both of these machines? |
| 21:40.12 | Arelis | wols: where aaaaaaaare youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 21:40.21 | asg | Arelis: were are all volunteers. While we try to stay to the end of an issue, life demands make this unreasonable. Please be patient. |
| 21:40.30 | Arelis | asg: alright :) |
| 21:41.09 | Arelis | asg: problem is, i have to go to bed pretty soon, and want my PC done by that time. I have to use it tomorrow, and want to copy the backup of my files back to my pc, because i can only use dad's external HD at this moment. So it's kind of urgent |
| 21:41.17 | Arelis | I've been asking for help for 2 hours now |
| 21:41.22 | Tramp | CalJohn: ssh does not require reverse-resolution to work. A not found suffices. |
| 21:41.44 | ryan52 | Arelis: have you tried rebooting after you installed it? |
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| 21:41.49 | Tramp | CalJohn: If the server would refuse to reply, it would time out (i.e. connecting would take a minute or so) |
| 21:41.52 | Arelis | ryan52: no. |
| 21:42.01 | CalJohn | I need to learn more about this. |
| 21:42.21 | ryan52 | Arelis: try that |
| 21:42.23 | Tramp | CalJohn: does your NFS work now? |
| 21:42.30 | Arelis | ryan52: okay |
| 21:42.31 | CalJohn | Tramp: ok, well, I set up both the /etc/hosts as you said, and i still get the same error with both host and nfs |
| 21:42.43 | CalJohn | and it's essentially the same error. |
| 21:42.52 | Arelis | ryan52: but please stay here so i can talk to you if it doesn't work. do you want that? :) |
| 21:43.03 | ryan52 | Arelis: okay |
| 21:43.13 | Arelis | alright :) thank you! rebooting.. |
| 21:43.30 | Arelis | ryan52: oh and when i come in, will you please talk to me? i tend to forget names of people on IRC |
| 21:43.36 | karsten | jeremy_c: apt-file / auto-apt need to update, yes, but typically you do that once a day or so, and you can do it asynchronously with searches. |
| 21:43.40 | ryan52 | Arelis: yes |
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| 21:43.46 | karsten | jeremy_c: NM. |
| 21:43.50 | karsten | jelly-home: ^^ |
| 21:43.51 | Tramp | CalJohn: what gives "grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf" on the server? |
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| 21:44.15 | CalJohn | Tramp: "hosts: files dns" |
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| 21:45.09 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: got it working? |
| 21:45.17 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: told you to think positive |
| 21:45.18 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: yes. |
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| 21:45.35 | robin | who was the one helping me again? :) |
| 21:45.40 | Tramp | CalJohn: hmm. can you "ping <name you put for the client>" on the server? |
| 21:45.42 | Arelis | sorry, wrong name |
| 21:45.45 | jeremy_c | bahadunn: did you see the solution? |
| 21:45.46 | ryan52 | Arelis: me |
| 21:45.52 | ryan52 | Arelis: did it work? |
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| 21:45.58 | Arelis | ryan52: alright. Rebooting didn't work, sadly. Still get the same error |
| 21:45.59 | karsten | lastlog -file foo robin |
| 21:46.12 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: yes |
| 21:46.12 | Arelis | but i get a hidden piece of the puzzle now: |
| 21:46.18 | Arelis | ryan52: check this: |
| 21:46.18 | Arelis | fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel. |
| 21:46.28 | bahadunn | jeremy_c: that Tramp is good people |
| 21:46.33 | bahadunn | heh |
| 21:46.39 | CalJohn | Tramp: ping works fine. |
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| 21:47.24 | Tramp | CalJohn: hmm any output for "ps -e | grep nscd" |
| 21:47.37 | Arelis | ryan52: what could it mean? |
| 21:47.48 | ryan52 | Arelis: I am not sure...I'm looking it up |
| 21:47.57 | Arelis | ryan52: alright :) |
| 21:48.29 | CalJohn | Tramp: no output :'( |
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| 21:49.23 | ryan52 | Arelis: sorry, but I've tried and I have no clue |
| 21:49.24 | Arelis | ryan52: hmm. I removed the 'radeon' module, and now i don't get that message anymore. |
| 21:49.31 | Arelis | ryan52: but i do get the 3 errors |
| 21:49.36 | Arelis | [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 681 MBytes. |
| 21:49.36 | Arelis | [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed |
| 21:49.36 | Arelis | FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-486/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted |
| 21:49.52 | Tramp | CalJohn: that ok. But when "ping name" works, it should be known. Maybe some caching. Can you restart the nfs server? |
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| 21:50.30 | ryan52 | Arelis: you probably would want to install the k7 kernels though |
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| 21:50.39 | Arelis | ryan52: does it solve it? :) |
| 21:50.39 | gopss | hello |
| 21:50.40 | cyberfr0g | sup? |
| 21:50.49 | Arelis | ryan52: but ok, i will. how? |
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| 21:50.58 | _abc_ | Any hints as to how to config dbus to leave a certain network interface alone during boot (and thereafter) ? |
| 21:50.58 | CalJohn | Tramp: this is what confuses me. I've restarted /etc/init.d/nfs-user-server now |
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| 21:51.12 | CalJohn | Tramp: same issue :/ |
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| 21:51.24 | ryan52 | Arelis: "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-5-k7" i think |
| 21:51.41 | abrotman | linux-image-2.6-k7 |
| 21:52.08 | Arelis | ryan52: yep, that is the right command. |
| 21:52.14 | Arelis | ryan52: could this all be because of the wrong kernel? |
| 21:52.26 | ryan52 | Arelis: you never know |
| 21:52.39 | Arelis | ryan52: do i need to reboot after the kernel instal? |
| 21:52.42 | ryan52 | yes |
| 21:52.43 | Tramp | CalJohn: Ah, I just checked man exports. I think wildcards (*) do not work with IPs. Try 192.168.0.0/16 instead |
| 21:52.47 | ryan52 | Arelis: yes |
| 21:53.01 | Arelis | ryan52: alright. I'll be back again then. do you want to call my name again when i arrive? |
| 21:53.10 | ryan52 | Arelis: yes |
| 21:53.15 | Arelis | alright. see you in a sec :) |
| 21:54.05 | abrotman | maybe :) |
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| 21:55.25 | Arelis | back again. |
| 21:55.33 | ryan52 | Arelis: Hi |
| 21:55.37 | Arelis | ryan52: thanks :) hi. |
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| 21:56.04 | Arelis | robins-desktop-computer:~# modprobe fglrx |
| 21:56.04 | Arelis | FATAL: Module fglrx not found. |
| 21:56.07 | Arelis | it DID do something! |
| 21:56.14 | abrotman | yes |
| 21:56.16 | ryan52 | Arelis: now run "apt-get install `dpkg -l | grep fglrx | awk {'print $2'}`", then the one-liner again |
| 21:56.17 | abrotman | you have to rebuild the module |
| 21:56.18 | Arelis | that's always a good sign |
| 21:56.25 | ryan52 | Arelis: nvm |
| 21:56.29 | abrotman | ryan52: he can't do that |
| 21:56.32 | abrotman | !fglrx one-liner |
| 21:56.32 | dpkg | somebody said fglrx one-liner was update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Contrib and non-free sources needed. ask me about <non-free sources> |
| 21:56.35 | _abc_ | What is a good sign ? O.o |
| 21:56.37 | abrotman | do it again! |
| 21:56.52 | Ronin | _abc_: 666 sign of the beast? |
| 21:56.56 | _abc_ | ow |
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| 21:57.01 | _abc_ | rwrwrw ! |
| 21:57.03 | karrotx | 616 is the sign of the beast |
| 21:57.17 | _abc_ | ah, rw-x-rw |
| 21:57.24 | karrotx | translations > 40AD |
| 21:57.34 | white_eagle | he's a friend of mine |
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| 21:57.46 | Arelis | !fglrx one-liner |
| 21:57.46 | dpkg | fglrx one-liner is probably update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Contrib and non-free sources needed. ask me about <non-free sources> |
| 21:57.54 | ryan52 | Arelis: do the one-liner again |
| 21:58.28 | susanne--- | so i'm trying to tail -f a log file, but it seems to stop after a few dozen lines. ctrl-c and restarting the tail works. considering that the logs are scrolling really fast (smtpd logs with a zillion incoming spam), this makes it hard to do the testing i want. what am i missing about making tail run forever like i expect? |
| 21:58.33 | karrotx | i'm trying to install rdiff-backup right now, and it keeps telling me the package is not available |
| 21:58.42 | karrotx | i just installed it on one etch system 2 hours ago |
| 21:58.53 | Arelis | ryan52: -su: fglrx-control: command not found |
| 21:58.59 | karsten | susanne---: What's teh file? What's 'strace' tell you about the tail? |
| 21:59.11 | karsten | susanne---: Note that tail usually pauses a second or so between updates. |
| 21:59.19 | ryan52 | Arelis: while you were running the one-liner? |
| 21:59.22 | Arelis | ryan52: hmm it won't install the packages because it's already installed |
| 21:59.23 | Arelis | ryan52: yes |
| 21:59.34 | _abc_ | susanne---, try less +F |
| 21:59.35 | ryan52 | Arelis: now run "apt-get install `dpkg -l | grep fglrx | awk {'print $2'}`" |
| 21:59.42 | ryan52 | Arelis: now run "apt-get remove `dpkg -l | grep fglrx | awk {'print $2'}`" |
| 21:59.53 | ryan52 | Arelis: sorry, use the 2nd one |
| 21:59.54 | karsten | susanne---: Any possibility the logfile is being renamed/relinked? |
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| 22:00.41 | ryan52 | Arelis: then after you run that run the one-liner |
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| 22:01.24 | Arelis | ryan52: -su: fglrx-control: command not found |
| 22:01.29 | Arelis | ryan52: while running the one-liner |
| 22:01.35 | CalJohn | Tramp: I'm sorry, got distracted. why the /16 ? |
| 22:01.53 | ryan52 | Arelis: and you ran the "apt-get remove `dpkg -l | grep fglrx | awk {'print $2'}`"? |
| 22:01.53 | Arelis | ryan52: wait a minute.. |
| 22:02.27 | susanne--- | karsten: no, renaming isn't possible, at least not every 10 seconds. less +F seems to be producing the desired results, and i was never very good with strace (as in NFC how to use it). well, take that back, tail +F has stopped as well. i'm seeing this on two different boxes, with two diff logs each, both qmail logs (smtpd and local delivery) |
| 22:02.39 | Arelis | ryan52: i pasted it wrong. |
| 22:02.51 | Tramp | CalJohn: It's the number of set bits in the netmask. |
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| 22:03.04 | Arelis | uh-oh.. |
| 22:03.05 | Arelis | ryan52: |
| 22:03.11 | Arelis | fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel. |
| 22:03.11 | Arelis | [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 681 MBytes. |
| 22:03.11 | Arelis | [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_stub_register failed |
| 22:03.11 | Arelis | FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-k7/misc/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted |
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| 22:03.18 | karsten | susanne---: strace tail -f <file> 1>/dev/null 2>/tmp/tail.strace |
| 22:03.21 | Arelis | dang.. sorry, but i can't use the pastebin |
| 22:03.29 | Arelis | my display is REALLY small |
| 22:03.34 | Arelis | it just hurts my eyes |
| 22:03.39 | Ronin | give it viagara? |
| 22:03.41 | CalJohn | Tramp: I recall netmasks (sorry, I'm currently reading TCP/IP illustrated, just got to that part). NFS now mounts, thankyou very much for all the help! |
| 22:03.42 | karsten | susanne---: ... will strace the file and dump the strace output (stderr) to the file /tmp/tail.strace (the name is arbitrary). |
| 22:03.44 | streuner | !flood |
| 22:03.44 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 22:03.52 | Tramp | CalJohn: np. |
| 22:04.00 | Arelis | streuner: sorry |
| 22:04.04 | karsten | susanne---: .... kill that after 10-15 seconds or so. Or don't dump stdout to /dev/null and kill it when it starts hanging. |
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| 22:04.12 | streuner | Arelis: the *magic* answer is #flood |
| 22:04.13 | Bishop | Hello, anyone knows something about Openssi with Debian Etch? |
| 22:04.15 | mike1o | I have a partion table error on my usb stick |
| 22:04.42 | Arelis | ryan52: please join #flood |
| 22:04.57 | kisielk | what's the proper way to make python2.5 the default in etch? |
| 22:05.10 | kisielk | is it just a matter of altering the /usr/bin/python symlink? |
| 22:05.18 | Tramp | susanne---: does less, then hitting "F" show the same behaviour (just to try another program) |
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| 22:05.31 | Bishop | Hello, anyone knows something about Openssi with Debian Etch? |
| 22:05.47 | Ronin | ssl even Bishop ? |
| 22:06.08 | Bishop | nope, ssi |
| 22:06.17 | CalJohn | Tramp: I think the mistake was those regexes. That must catch a lot of people out |
| 22:06.25 | streuner | !listvals openssi |
| 22:06.26 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'openssi' by value returned no results. |
| 22:06.41 | Knorrie | kisielk: update-alternatives |
| 22:06.42 | Tramp | CalJohn: yes, it was. Not a regex, but a wildcard that is. |
| 22:06.44 | abrotman | !ssi |
| 22:06.44 | dpkg | [ssi] Server Side Include, a Good Thing in a web server. or at http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/tutorials/includes.html#Format |
| 22:06.46 | abrotman | that ssi ?> |
| 22:06.51 | kisielk | Knorrie: nope |
| 22:07.05 | kisielk | Knorrie: There are no alternatives for python |
| 22:07.14 | Knorrie | hm ah |
| 22:07.17 | Knorrie | i see |
| 22:07.21 | Tramp | CalJohn: but reverse lookups should really work for all hosts. Otherwise you get all sorts of funny problems which are hard to find |
| 22:07.56 | susanne--- | Tramp: as i look at it, it looks like, yes, it does. could this be sshd throttling me, or screen? |
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| 22:08.29 | Bishop | OpenSSi = clustering solution offering a full, highly available SSI environment for Linux. |
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| 22:08.40 | Clockwise | how much sw-raid slows down the hdd-speeds? |
| 22:08.43 | white_eagle | i love dpkg |
| 22:08.45 | white_eagle | lolz |
| 22:08.57 | Tramp | susanne---: hmm. Doubt that. Rather the network per se. I means its just some kB text. |
| 22:09.15 | streuner | dpkg, love white_eagle |
| 22:09.17 | Clockwise | Could it be that sw-raid is half the speed in reading that a normal system without any raid? |
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| 22:09.51 | white_eagle | hahaha |
| 22:09.51 | white_eagle | ha |
| 22:09.51 | white_eagle | haa |
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| 22:09.53 | white_eagle | heh |
| 22:09.53 | *** kick/#debian [white_eagle!n=debhelpe@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
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| 22:10.02 | streuner | haha |
| 22:10.03 | _abc_ | ow |
| 22:10.08 | mike1o | while trying to format my usb stick I got "You will not be able to write the partition table." |
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| 22:10.38 | streuner | white_eagle: maybe dpkg loves you too, but debhelper dont! :-) |
| 22:10.39 | _abc_ | maybe debhelper should be renamed bsofh. or 'average_undernet_admin' :) |
| 22:10.52 | streuner | hehehe |
| 22:10.56 | abrotman | or "bot" ? |
| 22:10.57 | pobega | mike1o: Is the USB stick mounted? That would perhaps be the reason. |
| 22:11.08 | lindenle | Can ssh forward fonts when doing x forwarding |
| 22:11.26 | white_eagle | debhelper? |
| 22:11.31 | mike1o | pobega, it's not |
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| 22:11.59 | pobega | mike1o: Well then, what program are you using to partition it? |
| 22:12.08 | mike1o | fdisk |
| 22:12.13 | mike1o | and gparted |
| 22:12.14 | jelly-home | lindenle: if your app is using truetype fonts and freetype library, then no, the fonts need to be installed on the machine you're running the app on |
| 22:12.44 | lindenle | jelly-home: it is mathematica so that sucks... |
| 22:12.45 | jelly-home | lindenle: that would be most (all?) of gtk2 and Qt 3+ apps |
| 22:12.59 | pobega | Hmm...Are you sure it's not automounted? What is the output of mount? |
| 22:13.12 | white_eagle | !Kool |
| 22:13.12 | dpkg | it's spelt COOL! |
| 22:13.16 | jelly-home | lindenle: I have no idea about Mathematica. |
| 22:13.20 | jelly-home | !kool aid |
| 22:13.28 | Bishop | Can i have Debian "Etch" with "Sarge" kernel? |
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| 22:13.31 | white_eagle | mathematika isn't free |
| 22:13.43 | mike1o | pobega, mount doesn't show my device |
| 22:13.43 | white_eagle | is there a free alternative? |
| 22:13.44 | _abc_ | Bishop, why ? |
| 22:13.47 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.52 | streuner | Bishop: what sense should that make? |
| 22:13.53 | Clockwise | how could I see if my hdd is failing? |
| 22:14.02 | Ronin | Bishop: why? |
| 22:14.07 | streuner | Clockwise: install smartmontools |
| 22:14.11 | susanne--- | okay this is the strace output (without the dump to /tmp): http://pastebin.com/d3ecb2e47 |
| 22:14.24 | Bishop | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.30 | Arelis | guys, |
| 22:14.31 | Arelis | The real issue i'm having now, anyways - is a cropped up resolution in |
| 22:14.31 | Arelis | Xorg with the open-source drivers. Somebody advised me to install fglrx, |
| 22:14.32 | Arelis | but maybe that is not a good idea after all. Do you know how to solve THAT issue? |
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| 22:14.36 | mike1o | pobega, this happened after I fiddled around with it a bit |
| 22:14.42 | Arelis | .... sorry, paste working weird there |
| 22:14.48 | _abc_ | Bishop, ok, I had to downgrade from stock etch to 2.6.17.4 to make a certain ndis wrapper ("$%"%%%%!!!) work but otherwise ? |
| 22:14.49 | Bishop | "OpenSsi" its stable with debian Sarge |
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| 22:15.31 | _abc_ | And not with Etch ? |
| 22:15.33 | jelly-home | Bishop: openssl ? |
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| 22:15.51 | mike1o | pobega, ls -l => brw-rw---- 1 root floppy 8, 16 2007-12-20 23:06 /dev/sdb |
| 22:15.51 | Ronin | jelly-home: nope |
| 22:15.59 | pobega | mike1o: Sorry, I had to go take out the trash -- Hm, that sounds sort of weird then. What EXACTLY are you trying to do? |
| 22:15.59 | Bishop | jelly-home: Openssi |
| 22:16.02 | karrotx | Package rdiff-backup is not available, but is referred to by another package... is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 22:16.02 | karrotx | is only available from another source |
| 22:16.17 | Ronin | !why isnt openssi in stable |
| 22:16.18 | jelly-home | Ronin: it's only two pixels difference here! :-) |
| 22:16.18 | karrotx | yet it's online? how do i get this package? |
| 22:16.24 | Ronin | heh jelly-home |
| 22:16.27 | mike1o | pobega, format my ubs in msdos format |
| 22:16.39 | Bishop | Openssi = clustering solution offering a full, highly available SSI environment for Linux. |
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| 22:17.48 | jelly-home | Bishop: I already see a possible problem. Sarge will cease to be updated (even for security updates) after 2008-04 |
| 22:18.06 | Bishop | its like heartbeat, openmosix, LVS all Together |
| 22:18.17 | Arelis | The real issue i'm having now, anyways - is a cropped up resolution in |
| 22:18.17 | Arelis | Xorg with the open-source drivers. Somebody advised me to install fglrx, |
| 22:18.23 | Arelis | but maybe that is not a good idea after all. Do you know how to solve THAT issue? |
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| 22:18.26 | pobega | mike1o: FAT16? And precisely what are you doing in GParted? |
| 22:18.30 | Arelis | ... damn paste thing |
| 22:18.36 | Arelis | it's just a question! |
| 22:18.41 | Bishop | jelly-home: ok |
| 22:19.02 | jelly-home | Bishop: I guess you will be able to run etch with a 2.6.8 kernel if you get rid of udev... well, at least you can try. |
| 22:19.31 | guipenguin | hello - what source do I need to be able to do "apt-get install pidgin?" I found the .deb on the internet, but there are too many dependencies when installing that package with dpkg |
| 22:19.58 | Bishop | jelly-home: ow... nice idea :) |
| 22:21.06 | Arelis | Ah, i got the question right now. Can anyone help me with this?: |
| 22:21.07 | Arelis | The real issue i'm having now, anyways - is a cropped up resolution in Xorg with the open-source drivers. Somebody advised me to install fglrx, but maybe that is not a good idea after all. Do you know how to solve THAT issue? |
| 22:21.44 | jelly-home | Bishop: that's what you asked... etch with sarge kernel. Sarge has 2.6.8 afair. |
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| 22:22.52 | agent | What program will allow me to translate KDE/QT .ts files? qt4-linguist is the only one I found, but it is not available in Debian. |
| 22:24.15 | x_link | Hi |
| 22:24.28 | x_link | Is there any sajt where a friend can upload a small file so that I can download it? |
| 22:24.32 | x_link | Like 10mb |
| 22:24.42 | Ronin | sajt? |
| 22:25.03 | streuner | <Arelis> hello there. Can anybody help me? In the freenode #debian channel i've had no luck so far. Seems as if they are completely ignoring me |
| 22:25.05 | Ronin | x_link: why cant they scp it to you? |
| 22:25.13 | Ronin | streuner: ya i saw that as well heh |
| 22:25.14 | jelly-home | Ronin: fonetik speling of site |
| 22:25.29 | x_link | Ronin: scp? What does that mean? |
| 22:25.36 | Ronin | jelly-home: heh and im not really one to talk as im on my 5th vacation beer all ready |
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| 22:26.00 | karrotx | which source do i need to get rdiff-backup? |
| 22:26.04 | Arelis_ | I'm having troubles with my videocard, resolutions, games, and drivers. I have an ATI Radeon 9600 and a monitor that has a resolution of 1440x900. But my display is very cropped up and i can't see the taskbar. Also games won't run, and ppracer is VERY slow |
| 22:26.16 | jelly-home | x_link: rapidshare.de, yousendit.com, and about a thousand other sites |
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| 22:26.43 | streuner | *plonk* |
| 22:27.22 | chiNese_chaTTer | hi there, I want to buy a wlan-pci-draft-n-card for my debian-pc. Are there any solutions, that can be installed on debian-etch? |
| 22:27.36 | jelly-home | !tell Arelis_ about repeat |
| 22:27.47 | chiNese_chaTTer | or if its much cheaper and/or easier, a usb-stick would be fine too |
| 22:28.17 | streuner | check out wireless site first and check out groups.google.com |
| 22:28.20 | streuner | !wireless |
| 22:28.20 | dpkg | wireless is probably The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux or try asking #wireless, or see http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html, or ask me about <what's my wireless> |
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| 22:28.25 | Arelis_ | jelly-home, sorry, but where can i find support for debian then? where are the guides? |
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| 22:29.13 | x_link | jelly-home: Okey, thanks alot! |
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| 22:29.19 | jelly-home | Arelis_: here, or in the wiki, or in the mailing lists... just don't repeat yourself often. |
| 22:29.51 | Arelis_ | jelly-home, sorry, but i was having the feeling i'm being ignored.. and i've been asking the same question for 3 hours now, and google doesn't give any good answers. |
| 22:29.56 | Arelis_ | it's 23:29 PM |
| 22:30.07 | rahul | !tell Arelis_ about refund |
| 22:30.11 | rahul | bah |
| 22:30.21 | Ronin | heh |
| 22:30.29 | rahul | there's plenty of info on the internet |
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| 22:30.51 | jelly-home | Arelis_: you were not ignored (well, not until very recently) |
| 22:31.20 | guipenguin | if I do dpkg -i package_name and it lists a bunch of uninstalled dependencies, how do I install all of these deps so that I can install package_name ? |
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| 22:31.35 | Arelis_ | jelly-home, sorry, the console i was working on was very small and had constant error messages and join/part messages flowing across the screen.. i just couldn't see what was going on |
| 22:31.45 | Ronin | guipenguin: the app you want isnt in aptitude? |
| 22:31.56 | DustyBin | MSN on irssi, my lord: http://www.bitlbee.org/img/screenshot-irssi_sawfish.png |
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| 22:32.06 | guipenguin | Ronin I have tried apt-get install pidgin ... it can't be found |
| 22:32.10 | guipenguin | so I had to find a .deb |
| 22:32.35 | Ronin | its in stable guipenguin |
| 22:32.57 | jelly-home | Arelis_: no need to apologize, just be kind to others. Oh, and those join/part messages can be disabled (though I don't know how that is done in irssi). |
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| 22:33.51 | guipenguin | Ronin: I am new to debian.. just ditched Gentoo - how do I install it from said "stable" branch? do I need to update my sources in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 22:34.13 | chiNese_chaTTer | ok, thx streuner |
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| 22:34.24 | Ronin | guipenguin: pastebin your sources list, i have non-free in mine so it may be there |
| 22:34.25 | chiNese_chaTTer | I'll have a look at it |
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| 22:34.33 | sentix | Anyone in here use Rackspace @ Virginia datacenter? |
| 22:35.02 | jelly-home | Ronin: I only see gaim in stable. |
| 22:35.15 | jelly-home | !info pidgin etch |
| 22:35.18 | Ronin | !pidgin |
| 22:35.18 | dpkg | from memory, pidgin is formerly <gaim>, but due to trademark issues with AOL over the acronym AIM, had its name changed to Pidgin. libgaim is now libpurple and gaim-text is now Finch. Backported packages are available for Etch, add "deb http://ftp.cyconet.org/debian etch-backports main" to your sources.list. |
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| 22:36.12 | guipenguin | Ronin: http://rafb.net/p/wwdX8p58.html |
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| 22:37.10 | Ronin | guipenguin: im beting non-free of as dpkg said backports |
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| 22:38.57 | Nyle | hahahaha |
| 22:39.01 | Nyle | gui penguin |
| 22:39.13 | Nyle | what a nickname hahaha awesome man |
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| 22:39.22 | bkruse | can you embed a vnc viewer into a webpage? |
| 22:39.35 | guipenguin | Ronin... so what should I add to my sources? Sorry :/ |
| 22:39.40 | Ryan52 | bkruse: there is a java client |
| 22:39.43 | Nyle | bkruse: umm.. if you can code one in java |
| 22:39.55 | Nyle | Ryan52: oh I never looked to see if any java ones already exist |
| 22:40.04 | bkruse | there is a java client, awesome. |
| 22:40.09 | bkruse | I will mess around with that and see what I can do |
| 22:40.17 | Nyle | bkruse: but why? |
| 22:40.25 | Ronin | guipenguin: read what dpkg said about pidgin |
| 22:40.29 | Ryan52 | bkruse: I think its in the package vnc-java |
| 22:40.32 | bkruse | Nyle: making a test suite in which is necessary |
| 22:40.41 | Nyle | Ryan52: pidgin? |
| 22:40.41 | bkruse | kk, will do, thanks Ryan52, will keep you updated |
| 22:40.43 | engla | I'm really irritated vlc is not in testing :( I'm sure there is a reason though |
| 22:40.44 | Nyle | oh nm |
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| 22:40.57 | Nyle | wrong line I read, it scrolled up just as i was reading it |
| 22:41.16 | Nyle | !why is vnc not in testing |
| 22:41.16 | dpkg | vnc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vnc |
| 22:42.40 | engla | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 22:42.40 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 22:43.04 | engla | rahter. I hope that waiting 6 days is going to solve that. That means no video before christmas? :) |
| 22:43.37 | white_eagle | M$ |
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| 22:43.42 | white_eagle | !M$ |
| 22:43.47 | white_eagle | thats rofl |
| 22:44.42 | DustyBin | MS ftw |
| 22:45.01 | Ronin | keeps me employed |
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| 22:46.31 | guipenguin | Ronin: it's jsut a punch of deps: http://rafb.net/p/lPPm4975.html I don't know how to install all of those automatically |
| 22:46.41 | guipenguin | *bunch |
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| 22:47.39 | Ronin | !pidgin |
| 22:47.39 | dpkg | pidgin is probably formerly <gaim>, but due to trademark issues with AOL over the acronym AIM, had its name changed to Pidgin. libgaim is now libpurple and gaim-text is now Finch. Backported packages are available for Etch, add "deb http://ftp.cyconet.org/debian etch-backports main" to your sources.list. |
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| 22:47.53 | Ronin | guipenguin: you followed that? ^ |
| 22:48.43 | guipenguin | ohhh... this entire time I thought when you said dpkg you were revering to the linux command.... haha, sorry |
| 22:48.49 | Ronin | heh |
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| 22:49.20 | guipenguin | thank you very much, dpkg |
| 22:49.20 | dpkg | guipenguin: de rien |
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| 22:50.32 | wols | Arelis_: here :) |
| 22:50.53 | wols | Arelis_: modprobe fglrx |
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| 22:51.41 | white_eagle | eBay or thePirateBay |
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| 22:52.13 | white_eagle | ... |
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| 22:52.57 | Arelis_ | wols, tried that already.. gives much much errors |
| 22:53.13 | odysseas | hi all, someone cant tell me how to pass special parameters on modules loaded at boot time? |
| 22:53.20 | white_eagle | eBay or thePirateBay |
| 22:53.25 | white_eagle | i asked you |
| 22:53.25 | white_eagle | :D |
| 22:53.48 | abrotman | white_eagle: do you need help? |
| 22:54.03 | white_eagle | sorry for bothering, but no |
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| 22:54.29 | kgoetz | anyone know a good guide to configuring bind's logging via syslog? |
| 22:54.43 | kgoetz | theres probably a -doc package isnt there *checks* |
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| 22:54.52 | wols | !tell Arelis_ about errors |
| 22:55.26 | bahadunn | kgoetz: bind the definitive guide? |
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| 22:55.55 | Clockwise | question: Why does my cronjob run at 1 am eventhough it has been set to run at 3 am on the crontab |
| 22:56.03 | kgoetz | bahadunn: dunno, i'll check it out |
| 22:56.05 | Clockwise | date command on the server gives the right timezone |
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| 22:57.24 | abrotman | Clockwise: what's the cron line? |
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| 22:58.17 | GhostlyDeath | How can I disable the write caching thing, so I dont have to unmount to save my changes to a disk |
| 22:58.35 | abrotman | mount it sync? is that what oyu mean? |
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| 22:59.04 | GhostlyDeath | how can I know if mounting something sync is what I mean if I dont know what the sync flag is? |
| 22:59.05 | kgoetz | i'll point out you should unmount anyway |
| 22:59.22 | kgoetz | you go and look? |
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| 23:00.18 | GhostlyDeath | There any way to have GNOME/hald mount anything I plug in as sync? |
| 23:00.57 | kgoetz | theres probably a udev option, how you would use it i hae no idea |
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| 23:01.44 | kgoetz | how can there be *one* hit on google for "bind, the definative guide". thats just to bizzare |
| 23:02.10 | Eclipser | try definitive |
| 23:02.51 | kgoetz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.debian%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=%22bind%2C+the+definitive+guide%22&btnG=Search one hit o_0 |
| 23:02.52 | dondelelcaro | definative apparently isn't a very common spelling mistake |
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| 23:04.39 | dondelelcaro | kgoetz: that's because there's no book by that title. It's called DNS and BIND |
| 23:05.00 | kgoetz | ah. |
| 23:05.17 | dondelelcaro | (and doesn't follow the usual o'reilly Blah: The definitive definition of definedness |
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| 23:13.32 | mzanfardino | if I have an unwanted user on my system, how do I log them off? |
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| 23:15.35 | chiNese_chaTTer | hi there, I want to buy a wlan-pci-draft-n-card for my debian-pc. Are there any solutions, that can be installed on debian-etch? |
| 23:15.37 | chiNese_chaTTer | or if its much cheaper and/or easier, a usb-stick would be fine too |
| 23:15.54 | chiNese_chaTTer | oh, sry |
| 23:15.59 | chiNese_chaTTer | wrong window ^^ |
| 23:16.08 | chiNese_chaTTer | rofl |
| 23:16.14 | dondelelcaro | mzanfardino: with slay |
| 23:16.26 | dondelelcaro | mzanfardino: or you can just kill off whatever is controlling their terminal. |
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| 23:17.15 | mzanfardino | all I know is I have a user logged in via ssh that should not be. Clearly a password has been cracked. I want to boot the user then change the pass. I'm dont a man slay and found nothing though |
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| 23:17.30 | mzanfardino | nm, have to install slay |
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| 23:17.42 | teclo- | Hello, what version of gimp is in lenny ? |
| 23:17.54 | abrotman | packages.debian.org/gimp |
| 23:18.09 | teclo- | abrotman: thanky ou |
| 23:18.41 | teclo- | okay :) |
| 23:18.55 | teclo- | what's the easiest way to install Gimp 2.4.x on etch ? |
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| 23:19.10 | teclo- | Use a repository which has backports |
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| 23:19.23 | teclo- | ? |
| 23:19.28 | abrotman | !simple sid backport |
| 23:19.29 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
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| 23:21.41 | Pindapoy | hola |
| 23:21.46 | Pindapoy | hay alguien por aca? |
| 23:22.29 | amphi | !es |
| 23:22.29 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:22.33 | teclo- | hm, on backports.org there is backport of gimp for etch, but it's still 2.2 and not 2.4 |
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| 23:24.37 | jorgp | anyone upgraded from etch to lenny? |
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| 23:27.00 | abrotman | lots of peoplre |
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| 23:27.38 | jorgp | hiya abrotman have you, I am about to switch from ubuntu to etch, but was thinking about lenny. what is your take on lenny? |
| 23:27.49 | abrotman | i use it on my laptop .. it's mostly okay |
| 23:27.53 | abrotman | but things still break from time to time |
| 23:28.00 | jorgp | ok course |
| 23:28.12 | teclo- | see ya |
| 23:28.13 | abrotman | there's a lenny netinst .. which may or may not work |
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| 23:28.15 | abrotman | !etch->lenny |
| 23:28.15 | dpkg | First, see <apt-listbugs>. Next, edit sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny'. Save the file, then update and dist-upgrade. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. NOTE: you should be running a 2.6 kernel before trying to upgrade |
| 23:28.26 | jorgp | yeah I already read that |
| 23:28.29 | abrotman | ok |
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| 23:29.33 | jorgp | I think its a matter of catching it between package conversions/changes/renames/etc.. |
| 23:30.01 | maher | spose I give a user an rssh shell - how are they meant to change their password? |
| 23:30.17 | mzanfardino | dondelelcaro: thanks for the slay command. I managed to trace back the intruders address and killed him from the system. I've also changed the password for the open account, but now I want to restrict this account from access via ssh. Can you point me in the right direction? |
| 23:30.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | mzanfardino: disable the account |
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| 23:31.07 | mzanfardino | CutMeOwnThroat: I need the account, just not to have ssh access. |
| 23:31.14 | mzanfardino | CutMeOwnThroat: it's used internally |
| 23:31.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | huh |
| 23:31.25 | kgoetz | give whoevers account it was a suitable lartig |
| 23:31.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | what is it? |
| 23:31.27 | kgoetz | *ing |
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| 23:31.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | kgoetz: that was my thought, exactly :) |
| 23:31.52 | kgoetz | CutMeOwnThroat: thought it might be;) |
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| 23:31.57 | mzanfardino | CutMeOwnThroat: I might not be clear on the details, but this is an account that was created when I installed postgresql and it is used by processes that query the database. |
| 23:32.39 | kgoetz | how ddid you install postgres? |
| 23:32.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | mzanfardino: that might mean it is already disabled in the sense that it has not valid password |
| 23:33.00 | maher | mzanfardino: use DenyUsers in sshd_config |
| 23:33.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | or that it was originally like that |
| 23:33.14 | kgoetz | re accounts, theres 'locked' and 'disabled'. one means 'cant be used', one means 'cant be used with password' |
| 23:33.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | is it the "postgres" user? |
| 23:33.36 | mzanfardino | maher: I just found that in some forums (the sshd_config). I need that because I also want to restrict root access from ssh |
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| 23:33.54 | kgoetz | mzanfardino: root has its own configuration line |
| 23:33.59 | mzanfardino | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, the postgres user, which I foolishly left with a simple password |
| 23:34.18 | kgoetz | postgres user *shouldnt have* a password o_0 |
| 23:34.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | mzanfardino: that account should be disabled (with a '*' as encrypted passsword in /etc/shadow) |
| 23:34.37 | maher | mzanfardino: I ise AllowUsers and then explicitly list who can log in - but I don't have many users... |
| 23:35.12 | mzanfardino | wow... alot of information coming at me from different directions. Is there a (fairly) comprehensive site that might help to explain all this? |
| 23:35.37 | maher | mzanfardino: man sshd_config :) |
| 23:35.39 | kgoetz | the sshd_config man page for your ssh issues (yes, it is helpful). |
| 23:35.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | mzanfardino: well, now you have to worry about rootkits and stuff, if he managed to get access not only to the user, but to root also |
| 23:36.03 | kgoetz | and system users should never have passwords (afaik) |
| 23:36.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | !rootkit |
| 23:36.23 | dpkg | somebody said rootkit was a set of tools that replace the standard Unix utilities like ls and ps in order to hide certain files and processes from the admin. It is a good thing to have a copy of these tools on disk, but that only helps against the weaker rootkits (that don't modify the kernel in place). |
| 23:36.23 | mzanfardino | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't think he gained access as root, just as the postgres user and was trying to user that account to ssh elsewhere |
| 23:36.29 | kgoetz | CutMeOwnThroat: you have to worry anyway, if someone logs in, you may as well call the forensics team :| |
| 23:36.49 | mzanfardino | shite |
| 23:37.09 | mzanfardino | well, they didn't manage to hid themselves from who |
| 23:37.26 | mzanfardino | and I was able to whois the account and traceroute him back to Romania |
| 23:37.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | btw., I think it's normally easier to do the step normall-user->root than to gain access at all |
| 23:37.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course that varies... if there's a passwordless account, for example :) |
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| 23:38.05 | kgoetz | CutMeOwnThroat: depends on the system in question - if you have build tools installed, thats probably true |
| 23:38.37 | bkruse | hey guys, if I have a vnc listen server, can I make some kind of bridge so that people that connect via listen (so I am now looking at their screen) people can connect to me to see what I see? |
| 23:38.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | kgoetz: well, it depends on a lot, of course... but generally there are so many more options when you finally gained any access.... |
| 23:39.04 | kgoetz | CutMeOwnThroat: yep. no argument :) |
| 23:39.09 | kgoetz | s/)/( |
| 23:39.24 | bkruse | eg 3 computers, computer A (vnc server/client) connects to computer B (vnc viewer). Computer B now sees computer A's screen. Now computer C whats to see computer A's screen through computer B |
| 23:40.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkruse: that's perhaps a bit specialized on vnc for #debian? |
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| 23:40.53 | abrotman | just connect to A via vnc ? |
| 23:41.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | kgoetz: "sX$X/X" :-P |
| 23:41.17 | maher | bkruse: I expect the vnc tools can do this, but if not you can use ssh to portforward the vnc port from B to C - look at the ssh -L and -R options |
| 23:41.44 | abrotman | karsten: i'm sure that'd go over well :) |
| 23:41.47 | karsten | http://blog.madduck.net/debian/2007.12.18_bugscripts-and-rng.xhtml |
| 23:42.19 | maher | but did madduck use reportbug-ng to file his bug reports again reportbug-ng? |
| 23:42.30 | kgoetz | CutMeOwnThroat: :p |
| 23:42.30 | karsten | abrotman: http://blog.venthur.de/2007/12/18/on-422085-and-417256/ |
| 23:42.42 | abrotman | karsten: i've read them all :) |
| 23:42.54 | karsten | abrotman: Prime justification for making NMP approval as hard as possible. |
| 23:42.58 | abrotman | and some of the stuff on d-d list |
| 23:43.14 | bkruse | maher: I will try that, thank you! this is just getting confusing |
| 23:43.34 | maher | does anyone actually use rssh anyway? |
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| 23:44.11 | kgoetz | !rssh |
| 23:44.11 | dpkg | i guess rssh is a restricted shell for use with OpenSSH, allowing only scp and/or sftp, at <www.pizzashack.org/rssh/index.shtml>. |
| 23:44.18 | karsten | maher: rsh or rssh? |
| 23:44.33 | karsten | maher: See popcon. |
| 23:44.44 | maher | karsten: rssh - i gave this user an rssh account - but now i can't work out how he's meant to change his password |
| 23:45.09 | kgoetz | passwd doesnt work? |
| 23:45.25 | gener1c | rssh is that an rss feed via secure shell?! lol |
| 23:45.49 | karsten | maher: Looks like he can't, you'd have to do that for him. |
| 23:46.01 | maher | karsten: fantastic... |
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| 23:46.12 | The_Rebel | how do i change kernel module options in debian? |
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| 23:47.11 | maddash | is it possible to view the tcp in/outbound traffic in the cli? |
| 23:47.24 | kgoetz | iftop/slurm |
| 23:47.31 | kgoetz | tcpdump |
| 23:47.37 | kgoetz | depending on what you mean by 'view' |
| 23:47.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | "sniffit -i" |
| 23:48.16 | kgoetz | rssh |
| 23:48.18 | maddash | by "traffic," I mean the total amount of bandwidth that the system is using (K/s, B/s, etc) |
| 23:48.18 | kgoetz | oops |
| 23:48.28 | Vesperto | Help needed. Issuing "xmodmap .mapfile" won't change my keyboard map. I've checked the keycodes with xev, they're correct. I've checked the names for the letters in a website, they're valid. One of the lines in .mapfile is "keycode 39 = s S scircumflex Scircumflex ssharp section". This would mean i could get ŝ by pressing AltGr+s. |
| 23:48.30 | kgoetz | slurm or iftop |
| 23:48.36 | maher | maddash: nload |
| 23:50.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, apropos that |
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| 23:50.30 | CaTtleyA | hello, je ne sais pas si c est le bon channel. |
| 23:50.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | can any of those tools tell me the amount of traffic that a single application has used? |
| 23:50.47 | maddash | maher: kgoetz: iftop, slurm, nload are great. thanks. |
| 23:50.56 | maddash | CutMeOwnThroat: iftop, it seems |
| 23:51.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | over a longer time? |
| 23:51.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'll try it out, thx |
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| 23:52.09 | maddash | kgoetz: this is disappointing: why does iftop require root? |
| 23:52.18 | maddash | kgoetz: and the other two don't? |
| 23:53.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | maddash: hm, I thought accessing the raw net devices requires root? |
| 23:53.29 | maddash | CutMeOwnThroat: ditto. and the other two aren't even -rws-* |
| 23:53.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | a miracle! |
| 23:55.37 | dondelelcaro | mzanfardino: uh... if the account has been compromised, just disable that account completely. |
| 23:56.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't think iftop does what I want |
| 23:57.24 | war | How come growisofs (dvd+rwtools) is not included in Debian 64 bit but only 32bit? |
| 23:57.27 | kgoetz | maddash: i think its the raw access stuff |
| 23:57.32 | mzanfardino | dondelelcaro: I've taken a few steps, including removing root access to ssh (unrelated but important) and removing the password from the account so if what I've read it true you can't ssh into the system with this account |
| 23:57.53 | dondelelcaro | mzanfardino: if the password is disabled, yes. |
| 23:57.54 | kgoetz | mzanfardino: did you disable the account? or they can use ssh keys |
| 23:58.04 | karsten | mzanfardino: passwd field = '*', shell = /bin/flase |
| 23:58.12 | karsten | mzanfardino: ... erm, 'false', should work. |
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| 23:59.00 | karsten | mzanfardino: passwd -d <username>; chsh -s /bin/false <username> |
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| 23:59.19 | mzanfardino | karsten: I did the passwd -d <username> |
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