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| 00:03.39 | sphenxes | What program on linux can open or use an .UIF file? |
| 00:04.35 | phogg | sphenxes: no idea. WHat kind of file is it? |
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| 00:04.49 | pingouin | compressed iso i guess |
| 00:04.55 | egypcio | its like an iso image |
| 00:04.57 | egypcio | yes. |
| 00:05.45 | egypcio | magic iso. but its for windows ;< |
| 00:06.05 | pingouin | again...a new format.... |
| 00:06.18 | pingouin | the world needed that ;) |
| 00:06.37 | egypcio | leider |
| 00:06.56 | egypcio | |
| 00:06.56 | egypcio | Unfortunately |
| 00:07.03 | phogg | dumb proprietary companies making their own dumb ISO formats. Why, damn it, why? |
| 00:07.12 | pingouin | can't have access to a computer with winwin and magic iso on ? |
| 00:07.27 | pingouin | and then created a 'real' iso readable under linux ? |
| 00:08.01 | cmihai | Try running MagicISO with wine... |
| 00:08.05 | phogg | if it's just a new extension you might be okay,,, see what file says |
| 00:08.27 | phogg | cmihai: as I recall it refuses to run because it relies on a driver-level file which cannot install on wine |
| 00:08.33 | egypcio | people may incluse this magic programs in crossover. like steam ;< |
| 00:08.40 | cmihai | phogg: fire up VirtualBox |
| 00:08.43 | cmihai | + Windows trial |
| 00:08.48 | cmihai | takes a few hours, but meh. |
| 00:09.00 | phogg | cmihai: a workable but sucky solution |
| 00:09.04 | ciperlone | merry xmas to you all!!! |
| 00:09.39 | cmihai | phogg: the real MagicISO on Windows is the best solution technically speaking. You're 100% sure it works ;-) |
| 00:09.55 | egypcio | ciperlone; M xmas dude |
| 00:10.02 | cmihai | Wine or a format converte like there is a nrg2iso may fail :-) |
| 00:10.05 | phogg | cmihai: the best solution is to screw MagicISO and stay away from things that require it. |
| 00:10.31 | cmihai | I wonder what exactly requires it... |
| 00:10.46 | phogg | I would hope nothing but random disc images pulled off of P2P |
| 00:12.04 | ciphercast | hey guys, gm965 chipset + x3100 gfx, any luck in debian, ubuntu was a no go so far |
| 00:13.29 | phogg | ciphercast: any luck with what exactly? I'll bet any video card 'works' with vesa. |
| 00:14.02 | abrotman | i don't think that card is supported with ati.com drivers either ? |
| 00:14.07 | egypcio | magiciso runs with wine. google said theres no problem ;~D [god! Im trustin' ubnt users] |
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| 00:14.47 | abrotman | winehq.com |
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| 00:15.01 | egypcio | sphenxes; did u try to mount it? |
| 00:16.07 | sphenxes | egypcio, i was told it is an compressed iso format and i should find a tool to change it to iso. i am seaching with google right now |
| 00:16.25 | sphenxes | egypcio, i did not try to mount it |
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| 00:16.36 | debianforlife | since IÂ installed qmail should i remove exim4? or at least not have it in my runlevel? |
| 00:16.55 | timonator | there's a package i want, but it's only in sarge, lenny and sid, not in etch... how to get it the proper way? |
| 00:16.59 | ciphercast | phogg: yeah, let me clarify-it 'works' with vesa, but I'm trying to run intel, and get hardware acceleration and squeeze full resolution out of it (for a mythtv+hdtv setup) |
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| 00:18.12 | jeremiahzg | what's the package that enables cursors and copy buffers in ttys? |
| 00:18.15 | phogg | !tell timonator about simple sid backport |
| 00:18.18 | timonator | i mean adding sid to the sources.list doesn't make terribly much sense, yes? |
| 00:18.48 | timonator | ok, that seems reasonably easy, thank you! |
| 00:19.00 | phogg | jeremiahzg: gpm? |
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| 00:19.16 | debianforlife | since IÂ installed qmail should i remove exim4? or at least not have it in my runlevel? or does qmail use exmi4 to send mail, I am a bit confused about this |
| 00:19.46 | egypcio | sphenxes; http://www.bebits.com/app/4065 |
| 00:20.20 | timonator | phogg: the bot says i should add the "deb-src" line, what about a "deb" line? or do i have to add both? |
| 00:20.38 | jeremiahzg | phogg: thanks |
| 00:20.38 | phogg | debianforlife: since both probably bind to the same ports you probably cannot have both running at once. Whichever starts first will be your smtp server. I'd say update-rc.d to disable exim, or just remove it entirely. |
| 00:21.02 | phogg | timonator: afaik only a deb-src line is required |
| 00:21.11 | timonator | okay thanks |
| 00:21.16 | debianforlife | thanks phogg |
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| 00:21.37 | Tabakhase | Can i run passwd via script? |
| 00:21.41 | phogg | debianforlife: since qmail is now public domain, more or less, it's only a matter of time before proper packages exist in Debian main |
| 00:22.03 | phogg | Tabakhase: you want chpasswd, probably |
| 00:22.04 | sphenxes | egypcio, thanks |
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| 00:22.32 | timonator | phogg: now i'm in trouble. apt-get can't get a matching version of libc6-dev, what to do now? :( |
| 00:22.59 | debianforlife | thats probabaly why it was not working |
| 00:23.04 | phogg | timonator: no can help. Someone else may be useful. |
| 00:23.13 | timonator | oh my |
| 00:23.19 | timonator | maybe i should just build from source |
| 00:23.23 | Tabakhase | hm, ill take a look, but first telephone =) |
| 00:23.57 | wols | timonator: lenny? |
| 00:24.12 | szymon_g | hi |
| 00:24.23 | timonator | wols: 4.0, isn't it etch? |
| 00:24.55 | wols | timonator: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 00:24.58 | phogg | szymon_g: hi, welcome |
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| 00:25.54 | timonator | wols: it has etch in its version string |
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| 00:26.34 | wols | then there is no way you can't get a matching libc6-dev. it is there where it should be: in the etch repos |
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| 00:27.01 | szymon_g | i've installed debian amd64, iceweasel and flash using nspluginwrapper. |
| 00:27.01 | timonator | well, yeah, but as you might(?) have read, i'm trying to get a package from sid |
| 00:27.22 | szymon_g | but flash, ekhm, dissappear after Xwindow-crash |
| 00:27.25 | wols | timonator: that you shouldn't do if you like your install |
| 00:27.33 | timonator | oh |
| 00:27.34 | timonator | OK |
| 00:27.38 | wols | !tell timonator about simple sid backport |
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| 00:27.46 | phogg | wols: that's where I started |
| 00:27.49 | timonator | that's what i was doing |
| 00:28.18 | phogg | but I am unfamiliar with libc or any transition issues between etch and now, so I'm no help |
| 00:28.22 | wols | timonator: what is the exact error you get? |
| 00:28.57 | szymon_g | so when i tried to reinstal it i get this massage |
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| 00:29.08 | szymon_g | http://www.wklej.org/id/1e71011a46 |
| 00:29.17 | szymon_g | any ideas? |
| 00:29.40 | mrrcp | anyone here use openvpn with debian ? |
| 00:30.05 | wols | !anyone use openvpn |
| 00:30.05 | dpkg | No, no one uses openvpn, not even the people who use it. |
| 00:30.19 | mrrcp | dpkg b me |
| 00:30.40 | timonator | wait a minute |
| 00:30.44 | timonator | for that backports stuff... |
| 00:30.45 | wols | mrrcp: just ask sensible questions |
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| 00:30.53 | mrrcp | lol |
| 00:30.53 | timonator | "deb-src http://blahblah sid main"? |
| 00:30.59 | timonator | or maybe "....sid backports"? |
| 00:31.10 | wols | sid main |
| 00:31.15 | timonator | OK |
| 00:31.15 | wols | there are not "sid backports" |
| 00:31.19 | mrrcp | Im wondering if theres a qay to create other client keys .. Instead of having to remake everyones keys |
| 00:31.26 | phogg | sid backports would be nonsense |
| 00:31.35 | timonator | LC_ALL="C" will get me english error messages, yes? |
| 00:31.47 | wols | mrrcp: what you mean, remake? |
| 00:31.49 | wols | timonator: yes |
| 00:32.05 | mrrcp | Well u have to redoo everyones key to add another |
| 00:32.06 | timonator | ok, here goes: |
| 00:32.12 | mrrcp | no? |
| 00:32.38 | wols | mrrcp: no |
| 00:32.41 | mrrcp | hmm |
| 00:32.47 | timonator | "E: Build-Depends dependency fpr checkinstall cannot be satisfied because no available version of package libc6-dev can satisfy version requirements" |
| 00:32.59 | abrotman | timonator: runnig sid ? |
| 00:33.03 | timonator | no, etch |
| 00:33.19 | phogg | abrotman: trying to do a simple sid backport |
| 00:33.23 | mrrcp | how can i add another then in the easy-rsa dir? |
| 00:33.24 | wols | timonator: do not use build-dep and manually edit the /debian/ folder to choose different libc6 requirements if needed |
| 00:33.48 | timonator | wait what. |
| 00:33.56 | timonator | ah, yes. do what instead? |
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| 00:34.15 | mrrcp | When i try i get : rpserver:/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa# ./build-key test |
| 00:34.15 | mrrcp | you must define KEY_DIR |
| 00:34.19 | phogg | can someone recommend an image viewer which supports tagging images or other advanced organizing? I don't want a heavy weight photo manager if I can avoid it; no need to work with cameras. |
| 00:34.40 | wols | download the build-deps from etch manually, not sid, and run dpkg-builldpackage for checkinstall |
| 00:35.00 | wols | !openvpn |
| 00:35.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, openvpn is at http://openvpn.net |
| 00:35.08 | timonator | ok, how do i do that? how do i find out the build-deps? |
| 00:35.08 | wols | mrrcp: they have nice howtos there |
| 00:35.16 | wols | timonator: apt-cache show |
| 00:35.18 | cmihai | phogg: F-Spot or Picassa? GThumb? |
| 00:35.22 | timonator | oke |
| 00:35.49 | timonator | uh, apt-cache show checkinstall gets me "can't find package checkinstall", what's up with that? |
| 00:35.50 | egypcio | hey. just a silly question... its about sid. whereis updatedb? ;< (i know i know... ask google before send dumb questions, but...... :D) |
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| 00:36.12 | wols | !tell egypcio about search |
| 00:36.20 | phogg | cmihai: was hoping for something less gigantic. I suppose gthumb might be the best I can do. |
| 00:36.29 | egypcio | wols ¬¬' |
| 00:36.29 | abrotman | !source |
| 00:36.30 | dpkg | To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space. as root: 'aptitude install build-essential fakeroot devscripts' and 'apt-get build-dep {packagename}'. as any user: 'apt-get source {packagename}', cd into the directory it creates, edit 'debian/rules' to suit, run 'debuild -us -uc'. |
| 00:36.38 | cmihai | phogg: fspot and picassa have more organization stuff though. |
| 00:36.59 | abrotman | egypcio: findutils .. got split out .. if you're running sid you sohuld be reading some mailing lists |
| 00:37.28 | phogg | cmihai: fspot is c#, which is the suck |
| 00:37.29 | wols | abrotman: what happens if I don't? |
| 00:38.04 | cmihai | phogg: and I think Picassa is wine :P |
| 00:38.09 | cmihai | Which is worse |
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| 00:38.26 | phogg | cmihai: Only bits of it, afaik |
| 00:38.27 | timonator | isn't picasa winelib? |
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| 00:39.07 | timonator | abrotman: that was for me, right? |
| 00:39.40 | abrotman | wols: you'd ask silly questions a lot |
| 00:39.48 | abrotman | timonator: maybe |
| 00:39.54 | egypcio | spirit of Christmas ;> I thought you could answer me easily. I am too lazy now |
| 00:40.05 | wols | abrotman: describes me to a "t" |
| 00:40.17 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:40.29 | timonator | it seems like the assumption is that checkinstall has a debian source package... on the website there's only a binary package for debian |
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| 00:40.37 | abrotman | egypcio: i did answer you .. quit being so lazy :) |
| 00:40.55 | wols | timonator: which website? |
| 00:41.01 | timonator | the checkinstall website |
| 00:41.07 | timonator | http://www.asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/download.php |
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| 00:43.22 | abrotman | !info stow etch |
| 00:43.27 | dpkg | stow: (Organiser for /usr/local/ hierarchy), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.3-2.1 (etch), Packaged size: 59 kB, Installed size: 320 kB |
| 00:44.21 | phogg | timonator: ooc, what are you installing/backporting? |
| 00:45.34 | VincentC | i'm trying to add an init script with the command "update-rc.d blah defaults" |
| 00:45.45 | VincentC | it works great except for the fact that the script also runs during shutdown |
| 00:46.10 | timonator | phogg: checkinstall |
| 00:46.11 | VincentC | what should i be looking into? |
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| 00:46.49 | timonator | VincentC: all init scripts have a "stop" action which will be called at shutdown - that's my idea of how it works |
| 00:47.07 | phogg | amazingly enough, checkinstall exists for sarge and lenny but not etch. WTF? |
| 00:47.32 | timonator | well, that's what i thought... |
| 00:47.33 | VincentC | i will look into modifying my script then.... thanks |
| 00:47.47 | phogg | must have lost its maintainer after sarge, or something |
| 00:47.55 | timonator | VincentC: i think you can copy most of the stuff over from other scripts |
| 00:48.45 | timonator | well, checkinstall is one year old. i could just install it from source, since updating won't be a problem and i'm not going to want to uninstall it any time soon |
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| 00:49.54 | timonator | with "is a year old" i mean the last update |
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| 00:52.18 | timonator | haha, what fun. i could just re-install checkinstall using checkinstall, so that checkinstall can uninstall itself |
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| 00:54.49 | PaulTT | hi all... is it possible to adjust the size of partitions without reinstalling the OS? |
| 00:55.24 | firez | yes... |
| 00:55.32 | szymon_g | how? |
| 00:55.33 | firez | I think you may use qparted |
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| 00:56.02 | firez | is a partition magic linux-clone |
| 00:56.20 | firez | sorry...qtparted |
| 00:56.36 | timonator | or gparted |
| 00:56.47 | firez | yeah |
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| 00:57.08 | PaulTT | hmm. |
| 00:57.32 | PaulTT | okay. for some reason, the installer created a /home partition, a /tmp partition, a /usr partition, and a /var partition |
| 00:57.46 | PaulTT | I have no idea what the logic behind all that was |
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| 00:58.08 | VincentC | i think one reason is so that if one partition becomes corrupt, the effects are localized |
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| 00:58.25 | PaulTT | well... the sizes aren't going to work |
| 00:58.34 | PaulTT | this is a database server and var is 100% full. |
| 00:58.39 | PaulTT | I assume with bin logs |
| 00:59.19 | mbroeker | PaulTT, have you tried apt-get autoclean? |
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| 01:05.56 | xsdg | PaulTT: how big is /var? |
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| 01:13.14 | debianforlife | what is the best way to back up a server over a network? IÂ will be sending everything to a samba server on the same network |
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| 01:15.03 | Zaszz | hi all |
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| 01:15.32 | Zaszz | I have a problem with my iptables script: http://rafb.net/p/X72GjN13.html |
| 01:15.44 | enouf | debianforlife: i know backuppc.sf.net does that, but have fun reading ;-) maybe dirvish.org try too |
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| 01:16.05 | enouf | debianforlife: both are in debian repos, iirc |
| 01:16.06 | Zaszz | keep in mind i have many other port forwards and they all work, it's just SMTP that I'm having a problem with |
| 01:16.40 | Zaszz | i'm working with an MS SMTP server and Exchange, both do not respond to external telnets. I recall setting this up sometime ago and I didn't have to do anything special |
| 01:16.47 | Zaszz | i can telnet to them internally without issue |
| 01:17.09 | timonator | oh noes |
| 01:17.11 | debianforlife | will that let me do incrimental backups? |
| 01:17.22 | timonator | checkinstall made a boo-boo. how can i remove files from a .deb archive? |
| 01:17.51 | enouf | debianforlife: i'm sure they both will, dirvish uses rsync backend |
| 01:18.04 | timonator | it seems like it accidentally included gcc stuff :| |
| 01:18.11 | debianforlife | ok, ill check those out |
| 01:18.17 | enouf | then there's amanda and bacula debianforlife |
| 01:18.36 | timonator | oh man it's late, so my bed should get laid |
| 01:18.38 | enouf | (i know even less about those though) |
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| 01:19.32 | maddash | !ping |
| 01:19.33 | dpkg | pong |
| 01:19.39 | maddash | phew |
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| 01:21.50 | Zaszz | isp is blocking port 25 |
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| 01:22.30 | debianforlife | I have a lot of reading to do to get this working :P |
| 01:22.48 | enouf | heh :-p |
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| 01:30.36 | Cr3ature | why does unmounting a CD have to be such a pain |
| 01:30.46 | Cr3ature | i just want to get the damn CD out of the thing |
| 01:31.06 | Cr3ature | and for that i have to do: sudo lsof | grep cdrom |
| 01:31.11 | Cr3ature | then kill every process using it |
| 01:31.15 | Cr3ature | then i can sudo eject |
| 01:31.37 | Cr3ature | when it really should be as easy as just pressing the button on the cdrom |
| 01:31.54 | Chile` | how many processes do you have using the cdrom drive? |
| 01:32.02 | Cr3ature | like 6 |
| 01:32.02 | abrotman | you can just hit eject depending on how it was mounted |
| 01:32.13 | Cr3ature | well looks like i can't |
| 01:32.18 | enouf | stop using crappy apps |
| 01:32.22 | Cr3ature | it won't unmount untill processes are killed |
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| 01:32.29 | Cr3ature | i want force umount it |
| 01:32.37 | Cr3ature | and i want the damn eject button to work |
| 01:33.23 | enouf | the only time i recall it being truly locked is when blanking a RW disk |
| 01:34.03 | Cr3ature | whenever i press the button on the cdrom i get 'Failed to eject "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_K072........" |
| 01:34.12 | Cr3ature | like wtf is that |
| 01:34.24 | enouf | haha - that's hal, and dbus |
| 01:34.30 | enouf | your DE sucks |
| 01:34.31 | likan | hu |
| 01:34.47 | enouf | lshal |
| 01:34.48 | abrotman | or use your DE to eject it |
| 01:34.59 | Cr3ature | i want force ejext |
| 01:35.02 | Cr3ature | eject |
| 01:35.09 | enouf | sledgehammer ftw |
| 01:35.25 | enouf | oh n03z O.o |
| 01:36.35 | Cr3ature | my god |
| 01:36.43 | Cr3ature | im gonna really have to rip the CD rom open |
| 01:37.19 | abrotman | what DE are you using ? |
| 01:37.26 | Cr3ature | i don't even know what DE is |
| 01:37.38 | Cr3ature | but i rip the tray open |
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| 01:37.46 | Cr3ature | lets try if it can still mount another CD |
| 01:37.48 | abrotman | gnome? |
| 01:37.48 | xsdg | Cr3ature: "desktop environment" |
| 01:37.49 | abrotman | kde? |
| 01:37.58 | Cr3ature | xfce |
| 01:38.03 | Cr3ature | xfwm |
| 01:38.44 | Cr3ature | im so tired of basic functions like this not being automated |
| 01:38.47 | enouf | all storage_serial devices in lshal have to do with my HDDs, not the opticals |
| 01:40.54 | Cr3ature | this is gonna brake my drive |
| 01:40.56 | enouf | i mean heck, you should check if your audio/sound apps are locking it too - like lsof | egrep 'artsd|esd' (or similar) |
| 01:41.04 | Cr3ature | im forcefully openin the dock when its psinning |
| 01:41.06 | Cr3ature | not good |
| 01:41.08 | enouf | (if they are AudioCDs) |
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| 01:42.06 | Cr3ature | thats it |
| 01:42.11 | Cr3ature | i just broke the c |
| 01:42.12 | Cr3ature | d |
| 01:42.21 | enouf | !win Cr3ature |
| 01:42.21 | dpkg | Congratulations, Cr3ature! You have won a one way ticket to Christmas Island! |
| 01:42.36 | Cr3ature | jesus fucking christ |
| 01:42.43 | Cr3ature | thiss is complete bullshit |
| 01:42.58 | enouf | you should attack this issue, at another time, when you're calmer |
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| 01:43.59 | enouf | "i fought the rom, and the rom won" |
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| 01:47.32 | PaulTT | thanks for the pointer on gparted, but I need something non graphical that I can use from shell to adjust the partition sizes |
| 01:47.45 | abrotman | yay? |
| 01:48.00 | abrotman | PaulTT: parted ? or partd .. whatever it is |
| 01:48.33 | abrotman | !info parted etch |
| 01:48.37 | dpkg | parted: (The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.7.1-5.1 (etch), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 01:48.47 | PaulTT | thanks! |
| 01:49.00 | enouf | use fdisk - and don't mess with ext'd , especially if you have a wintendo/Linux mix |
| 01:49.02 | jstevens | I'm having a problem booting 2.6.21 and 2.6.22. While booting, my system tries to mount my root filesystem before the SCSI driver even detects the disk. Of course, it fails. I can manually mount I'm dumped into busybox. |
| 01:49.17 | enouf | (oh, you want to resize only? - my bad) |
| 01:49.19 | jstevens | Kernel 2.6.18 boots fine. |
| 01:49.34 | jstevens | As well as previous versions. This is a new issue. |
| 01:49.43 | enouf | jstevens: using an initrd? |
| 01:49.47 | jstevens | Yes |
| 01:50.08 | enouf | on all? same one, or the appropriate ones? |
| 01:50.15 | jstevens | I'm using the initrd that debian creates when it installs the debian kernel image. |
| 01:50.42 | Cr3ature | i think the drive just got busted |
| 01:50.46 | enouf | but for all those kernels you mentioned? |
| 01:50.53 | Cr3ature | thw whole fucking drive is now broken |
| 01:50.59 | Cr3ature | cause of the idiotic system |
| 01:50.59 | enouf | youch |
| 01:51.05 | PaulTT | enouf: I'm attempting to undo this nonsense partition set up the installer did on this server |
| 01:51.22 | xsdg | Cr3ature: my apologies |
| 01:51.37 | enouf | PaulTT: oh .. ok, right, 4 partitions, /var is full - but someone asked you the size, ever answer? |
| 01:51.40 | Cr3ature | yea good job |
| 01:51.47 | jstevens | Each kernel boots with a different initrd. Each kernel boots using the initrd created when the debian packaged kernel is installed. |
| 01:51.56 | PaulTT | On my other server, I simply have /boot, /dev/shm, and // |
| 01:52.02 | jstevens | I'm not compiling my own kernel or making my own initrd |
| 01:52.38 | enouf | PaulTT: can't you boot the installer cd in rescuegui and use that perhaps? you likely want to remove old /var/log/*,gz files to free up some space maybe |
| 01:53.04 | enouf | jstevens: ok, good |
| 01:53.21 | jstevens | I'm using LVM as well. |
| 01:53.52 | xsdg | PaulTT: how big is /var? how big is /? |
| 01:53.57 | enouf | jstevens: do you have any dmesg log or something you can show us? how about trying the .18 initrd with the newer kernel as a test |
| 01:54.08 | jstevens | http://pastebin.com/m4f2cab03 |
| 01:54.13 | enouf | omg - nevermind |
| 01:54.14 | jstevens | There's the dmesg log |
| 01:54.17 | enouf | well ... |
| 01:54.28 | Cr3ature | ohh yea |
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| 01:54.35 | Cr3ature | now the X process got looped |
| 01:54.41 | Cr3ature | 100% CPU usage |
| 01:54.43 | Cr3ature | stuck in that |
| 01:54.55 | Cr3ature | i've fucking had it with this XFWM |
| 01:55.06 | Cr3ature | this is the most horrible piece of crap i have ever seen |
| 01:55.15 | jstevens | Unfortunately, dmesg doesn't even show that vg00 isn't found and thus /dev/mapper/vg00-root can't be mounted. |
| 01:55.44 | jstevens | The errors only get printed to the console -- not logged in dmesg. |
| 01:56.14 | xsdg | Cr3ature: xfwm? what's wrong with it? |
| 01:58.05 | abrotman | i assume he means xfce |
| 01:58.12 | xsdg | abrotman: I use xfce |
| 01:58.17 | abrotman | i realize that |
| 01:58.48 | enouf | jstevens: i see, i also see no root=/dev blah line in your dmeg, there's ways around it, making the scsi controller probe happen sooner, passing the bootloader the exact i/o address range and stuff - but i wonder if you adaptec scsi controller driver is rolled in your initrd, on .18 - i know there have been some issues with that |
| 01:59.16 | TbbW | iptables -A INPUT -m xmas -j DROP |
| 01:59.54 | enouf | jstevens: IIRC, there's even documentation about changes in the kernel changelogs, and/or also in /usr/share/doc/* (adaptec? , scsi?) |
| 02:00.22 | enouf | er initramfs-tools? must grep ;-) |
| 02:01.19 | abrotman | enouf: shouldn't you be at times square? |
| 02:02.25 | enouf | abrotman: yep - playing hookey |
| 02:02.59 | abrotman | waiting for the ball to drop? |
| 02:03.13 | abrotman | and then it will smash all the reindeer! .. yay! |
| 02:03.34 | jstevens | Well, the SCSI adapter is detected before the root filesystem is mounted. It would have to be rolled into the initrd, no? |
| 02:03.56 | jstevens | I'll give the .18 initrd a try and check the changelogs. |
| 02:04.08 | enouf | man that /usr/share/doc/ dir is painful |
| 02:04.27 | enouf | jstevens: check debian BTS as well |
| 02:04.35 | jstevens | The kernel is painful. I admire everyone who spends time there. |
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| 02:05.31 | jamesd_ | what is the name of script to configure the network during the install |
| 02:05.42 | Tabakhase | Hi, im looking for a easy Socks5 proxy, i only need to specific the port and the log directory, thats all. (not tsocks, net anonymus/higly anonymus) |
| 02:05.52 | abrotman | jamesd_: you can't run it after the install |
| 02:06.00 | enouf | jstevens: might even be an issue with the newer libata ata_piix implementations - or .. i haven't looked at the dmesg closely enough to see if it's just a /dev/name issue |
| 02:06.04 | abrotman | Tabakhase: privoxy ? |
| 02:06.33 | Tabakhase | Long time ago ive got the perfect one for this, but forgotten the name =( |
| 02:06.40 | abrotman | checked freshmeat ? |
| 02:07.09 | Tabakhase | freshmeat? |
| 02:07.32 | abrotman | freshmeat.net .. see if you can find a package there |
| 02:07.42 | Tabakhase | privoxy = web |
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| 02:09.31 | lisper | merry christmas all, I have something I would like to request to Saint Claus: Please remove that f***ing kate package from kdebase. I dislike kate pretty much and it's not really needed by kde |
| 02:09.51 | Tabakhase | abrotman no =( |
| 02:10.08 | lisper | I want kate out of my box, but kdebase deppends on it and everything deppends on kdebase |
| 02:10.19 | abrotman | !install kde |
| 02:10.19 | dpkg | The metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at d-i's boot prompt. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall |
| 02:10.34 | lisper | kdecore deppends on kdbase |
| 02:10.39 | lisper | kdebase* |
| 02:11.12 | Tabakhase | hm, maybe it was dante! |
| 02:12.27 | abrotman | lisper: file a bug against the package |
| 02:13.04 | lisper | I'm in bare console, no X... |
| 02:13.15 | lisper | I could use links2 but... |
| 02:13.17 | abrotman | so use reportbug |
| 02:13.25 | lisper | is that a command? |
| 02:13.44 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:14.05 | Cr3ature | Wmii owns |
| 02:14.08 | Tabakhase | Hm, i think there was a name to rename the dante.cfg |
| 02:14.10 | Cr3ature | this makes me happy |
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| 02:17.19 | boulbul | Hi guys |
| 02:18.25 | abrotman | you can't greet the bots? |
| 02:18.40 | enouf | jstevens: other final thought - see the various boot options (like "scsi_mod.scan=") http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.23.1/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt - also man bootparam, man setpci, man sdparm |
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| 02:19.26 | enouf | !reportbug |
| 02:19.26 | dpkg | somebody said reportbug was used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 02:19.50 | enouf | links2 ftw anyway :-P |
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| 02:24.09 | kogyaru | greetings. I would like to find a fix to an acpid package installation error. (I'm running etch.) |
| 02:24.14 | kogyaru | The details are at: http://pastebin.ca/831553 |
| 02:24.29 | kogyaru | Is this a broken system (my system), or is it a broken package? |
| 02:25.01 | xsdg | kogyaru: broken package |
| 02:25.13 | boulbul | I have just tried to access an sony mp4 player. The brand is nwz-a818. The system does not mount it automaticaly like it happens with other usb devises. When dmesg, I get the following error... http://pastebin.com/d2b15774f |
| 02:25.15 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 02:25.28 | kogyaru | thank you. if I am running etch on a fileserver, do I necessarily need acpid? |
| 02:25.31 | xsdg | kogyaru: note how tar complains about the leading slash |
| 02:25.31 | Ace2016 | wols: Merry Christmas :D |
| 02:25.39 | Ace2016 | Merry Christmas all |
| 02:25.39 | lisper | abrotman: ok, bug in place. I had to put it as a kate bug cause I was not allowed by reportbug to put it as a kdebase bug itself |
| 02:25.43 | xsdg | kogyaru: not necessarily |
| 02:25.51 | Caelum | to add a paper size to cups, do I just edit the ppd in /etc/cups ? |
| 02:25.57 | abrotman | lisper: why not? |
| 02:26.03 | kogyaru | xsdg: ok, thanks for the sanity check. |
| 02:26.04 | xsdg | kogyaru: I'd say try to get the package from another mirror, and if you run into the same problem, file a bug |
| 02:26.12 | kogyaru | xsdg: cool, thank you. |
| 02:26.28 | xsdg | (probably something like serious or whatever is one down from grave) |
| 02:26.30 | lisper | when I selected kdebase it asked me to select one of the packages that conform it |
| 02:26.43 | abrotman | weird. .. there are bugs filed against kdebase .. but wahtever |
| 02:27.18 | lisper | ok, will double post then, don't think they would mind it at all cause I put it in priority 8 (wishes and suggestions) |
| 02:27.26 | abrotman | don't double post .. |
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| 02:27.32 | kogyaru | interesting bug severity levels |
| 02:27.33 | lisper | shit, what do I do then? |
| 02:27.49 | kogyaru | medical-like |
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| 02:27.57 | abrotman | lisper: you can just leave it .. or append the bug and ask to reassign it to kdebase (or do it yourself, but i'd let the DD do that) |
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| 02:28.40 | lisper | abrotman: could you give me a bit more info about how to do it? |
| 02:28.57 | abrotman | lisper: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control |
| 02:29.27 | lisper | ok, installing links2 |
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| 02:29.37 | abrotman | lisper: hehe .. or you could just leave it go .. |
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| 02:30.49 | abrotman | lisper: TBH .. it could go against either package .. nothing wrong with leaving it there .. i'm sure the DD will explain why it's a dependency of kdebase |
| 02:31.09 | lisper | 1st, what is DD? |
| 02:31.16 | abrotman | Debian Developer |
| 02:31.19 | lisper | 2nd, wtf is TBH? |
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| 02:31.23 | abrotman | !tbh |
| 02:31.23 | dpkg | To Be Honest |
| 02:31.24 | lisper | lol |
| 02:31.27 | lisper | oh |
| 02:31.49 | abrotman | lisper: i did notice that kdebase and kate are part of the "same" source package |
| 02:32.06 | lisper | oh, really? it shouldn't |
| 02:32.19 | abrotman | lots of things in kde "shouldn't" :) |
| 02:32.29 | lisper | kde does not need kate to work |
| 02:32.42 | lisper | abrotman: don't tell me youre a gnome one |
| 02:32.43 | abrotman | i don't know enough about KDE internals to comment |
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| 02:32.58 | abrotman | lisper: i'm comfortable with gnome or blackbox .. |
| 02:33.03 | abrotman | and a few others also |
| 02:33.45 | abrotman | FWIW .. i use sawfish with gnome ... |
| 02:34.00 | abrotman | For What It's Worth :) |
| 02:34.16 | gg | Do I need to install unix2dos separately? |
| 02:34.22 | lisper | well, I tried gnome, xfce and some others, but when I know more about kde, I can stand others window managers less |
| 02:34.29 | abrotman | should be in the same package as dos2unix |
| 02:34.39 | abrotman | lisper: to each his own .. |
| 02:34.46 | lisper | yeah |
| 02:35.09 | abrotman | just not a kate user :) |
| 02:35.10 | gg | hmm cant apt-get it |
| 02:35.31 | abrotman | !find bin/unix2dos etch |
| 02:35.38 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/unix2dos' (1): (/usr/bin/unix2dos) in utils/tofrodos. |
| 02:35.38 | lisper | I would like Common Lisp bindings for QT libs but well, that's something I should ask Santa Claus to bring me |
| 02:35.42 | lisper | lol |
| 02:35.50 | abrotman | you're a sick sick man |
| 02:35.57 | lisper | why? |
| 02:36.03 | abrotman | list .. for qt! |
| 02:36.06 | abrotman | erm .. lisp |
| 02:36.10 | lisper | lol |
| 02:36.15 | lisper | yeah |
| 02:36.36 | lisper | there are Lisp bindings to GTK libs |
| 02:36.41 | gg | so what should I be apt-get ting? |
| 02:36.42 | lisper | but there's none for QT ones |
| 02:36.47 | abrotman | that's almost as bad as using C++ for a desktop environment! |
| 02:36.50 | abrotman | oh wait ... |
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| 02:36.55 | abrotman | gg: tofrodos |
| 02:37.04 | Ace2016 | how do you put a command inside a command? |
| 02:37.13 | lisper | afaik kde is a c++ DE |
| 02:37.19 | abrotman | it is . it was a joke |
| 02:37.21 | jamesd_ | Ace2016, explain what you want to do |
| 02:37.25 | Ace2016 | like: mplayer (output of another command which gives a url) |
| 02:37.28 | abrotman | Ace2016: cat /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 02:37.28 | lisper | hehe |
| 02:37.37 | gg | Thanks |
| 02:37.43 | jamesd_ | Ace2016, mplayer $( cat url) |
| 02:38.08 | enouf | try -playlist option |
| 02:38.26 | enouf | or youtube-dl pkg too, for the boobtubulars |
| 02:39.08 | lisper | abrotman: what's your connection speed, just curious |
| 02:39.25 | Penix | we all use isdn here |
| 02:39.32 | Ace2016 | thanks abrotman, jamesd_, but what is the difference between the two? |
| 02:39.50 | Ace2016 | is there an advantage to using either? |
| 02:39.54 | abrotman | lisper: i'm at my mom's . it's slower than mine at home |
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| 02:40.10 | jamesd_ | Ace2016, not much one is easier to read i find the ` easier to miss... and some editors use ` so cut and paste doesn't work as expected. |
| 02:40.15 | enouf | wisconsin? |
| 02:40.24 | jamesd_ | urd o |
| 02:40.31 | jamesd_ | er yes i'm in miwaukee |
| 02:40.33 | Ace2016 | oh ok, thanks |
| 02:40.36 | lisper | abrotman: it takes my connection like 1 whole hour to download the packages to have a kdebase.. it's a 256Kibit/sec down connection and hardly goes at top speed |
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| 02:40.46 | abrotman | lisper: oh .. mine is more than that |
| 02:40.57 | lisper | kate is still downloading |
| 02:40.58 | lisper | lol |
| 02:41.02 | Penix | suck it up |
| 02:41.09 | Penix | I used to track unstable on dialup for five years |
| 02:41.14 | Ace2016 | wow |
| 02:41.20 | Ace2016 | thats crazy |
| 02:41.20 | lisper | lol |
| 02:41.25 | lisper | that's crazy |
| 02:41.28 | lisper | lol |
| 02:41.28 | Ace2016 | debain sid on dialup?????? |
| 02:41.35 | lisper | mad |
| 02:41.35 | enouf | bloat bloat bloat your bloat gently down the stream |
| 02:41.40 | Penix | it's not hard. especially if you've got *real* dialup |
| 02:41.56 | Penix | which I didn't |
| 02:42.00 | Ace2016 | that'd drive me nuts, how long did your pc stay on and how much did you end up paying for your dialup? did you only update once a month or what? |
| 02:42.11 | lisper | Penix: and you gotta have a lot of patience and leave your box downloadin packages at night |
| 02:42.19 | abrotman | enouf: yes |
| 02:42.19 | Ace2016 | jamesd_: well how big was it? |
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| 02:42.48 | abrotman | Penix: i tracked testing on 56k dialup for awhile |
| 02:42.49 | jamesd_ | Ace2016, 30x 1.44 MB floppies... it was quite a long time ago.. the current kernel version was 1.0.9 |
| 02:42.54 | Ace2016 | i downloaded mandrake 10.0 on dialup overnight |
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| 02:43.28 | lisper | btw, anyone knows if xorg at the stable branch was compiled with AIGLX support? |
| 02:43.33 | Penix | up until the start of this year, I'd been on dialup since 2000 |
| 02:44.09 | Ace2016 | lisper: you'd think that wouldn't you, but no, when you're asleep you don't care what the computer is doing unless the redialing wakes you up at night |
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| 02:44.37 | Ace2016 | i only really started using linux after i got broadband |
| 02:44.48 | Penix | I'm gonna feel bugs under my skin if I ever have to give up my dsl |
| 02:44.55 | Caelum | yay, managed to hack my ppd to add a paper size |
| 02:44.56 | abrotman | lisper: i don't see your bug anywhere |
| 02:45.19 | Ace2016 | oh wait i never downloaded mandrake on dialup, it was on dsl, but it was slow, it was like 128kbps or something, man can't believe how slow that was compared to now |
| 02:45.21 | abrotman | Ace2016: i started with a 9600bps .. ick :) |
| 02:45.39 | abrotman | and that was before apt supported resume .. and my isp disconnected after three hours .. god damn mozilla packages |
| 02:45.54 | Ace2016 | well packages were smaller then right? |
| 02:45.59 | abrotman | not mozilla :) |
| 02:46.02 | Penix | heh |
| 02:46.28 | abrotman | maybe it was netscape .. but it still couldn't finish before i would get dropped |
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| 02:46.54 | abrotman | and at the time .. the other browsers were ... lynx :) |
| 02:48.02 | lisper | abrotman: I don't see it either, maybe the bugtrackin system is celebratin christmas at home too |
| 02:48.05 | lisper | lol |
| 02:48.11 | abrotman | lisper: takes up to 30 minutes sometimes |
| 02:48.12 | lisper | it needed a break |
| 02:48.16 | lisper | lol |
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| 02:49.19 | abrotman | lisper: did you get a copy in your email ? |
| 02:51.36 | lisper | abrotman: hmm, I yet don't have enough packages in place to check ti |
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| 02:51.38 | lisper | it* |
| 02:51.50 | lisper | I'm installing debian from scratch |
| 02:51.56 | abrotman | lisper: no other machines? |
| 02:52.07 | lisper | nope |
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| 02:52.52 | lisper | brb, gonna use a directframebuffer app (cant access console while on it) |
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| 02:54.46 | dacs | I would like to take a moment and wish you and your family a very safe and happy christmas |
| 02:55.15 | abrotman | no happy new year? wtf |
| 02:55.25 | dacs | wtf over |
| 02:55.28 | dacs | :) |
| 02:55.43 | enouf | 358 days late for that abrotman |
| 02:55.53 | abrotman | heh |
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| 02:57.03 | dacs | a special happy new year for abrotman! |
| 02:57.23 | abrotman | hehe .. i love the chinese new year! |
| 02:58.01 | dacs | abrotman: that mean you love oranges alot |
| 02:58.17 | abrotman | they rhyme with everything! |
| 02:58.20 | Caelum | when I start azureus, is it supposed to just sit there and say "Loading.. Please Wait" |
| 02:58.34 | abrotman | Caelum: it's reporting you to RIAA |
| 02:58.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | *grin* |
| 02:59.04 | Caelum | heh |
| 02:59.06 | abrotman | Caelum: or at least your employer ... |
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| 02:59.24 | enouf | it;s loading up your java bloat |
| 02:59.35 | abrotman | Caelum: how long did you wait? |
| 02:59.46 | Caelum | umm, it's been like 15 minutes already :) |
| 02:59.56 | dacs | i have ATA what i would like to connect to my Ethernet card in my Debian box, i currently connect to internet using a PCI/PCMCIA wireless card |
| 03:00.05 | lisper | can't access my email account with links2, can't check atm if I got any confirmations |
| 03:00.17 | lisper | confirmation* |
| 03:00.23 | lisper | (n next to the s) |
| 03:00.35 | abrotman | that made it more confusing! |
| 03:00.41 | abrotman | Caelum: that's not right |
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| 03:02.04 | dacs | abrotman: would you help me please |
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| 03:02.14 | abrotman | damn egg nog |
| 03:02.26 | dacs | el crapoooo !!!! |
| 03:03.04 | abrotman | dacs: what's broken? |
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| 03:05.50 | dacs | abrotman: i have a PCI/PCMCIA wireless card in my box, which i am using right now to connect to the internet, all working fine, how ever i want to use my built-in eth to connect my ATA |
| 03:06.23 | abrotman | ethernet? HDD? |
| 03:06.43 | dacs | abrotman: what do you mean? |
| 03:06.48 | mmcr_ | ether to connect ATA? |
| 03:07.29 | dacs | opssss sorry, ATA=Analog Telephone Adaptor |
| 03:07.40 | mmcr_ | xD |
| 03:08.01 | abrotman | a modem ? |
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| 03:09.34 | dacs | abrotman: no ATA is a device that has an eth port and RJ11 port, which allow you to connect your Analog phone to the internet |
| 03:09.51 | abrotman | i know nothing about it .. sounds polish |
| 03:10.57 | dacs | abrotman: i will greatly appreciate it if you show me how to get that eth to work :) |
| 03:11.07 | abrotman | but i don't know jack about iut |
| 03:11.31 | dacs | about ethertnet ?!! |
| 03:11.42 | mmcr_ | lspci |
| 03:11.46 | mmcr_ | and modconf |
| 03:13.44 | dacs | 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 04) |
| 03:13.49 | abrotman | dacs: that's not it |
| 03:14.13 | mmcr_ | look for module e100 i think it is |
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| 03:16.10 | dacs | http://pastebin.ca/831583 |
| 03:16.41 | abrotman | isn't your ATA a pcmcia card? |
| 03:17.18 | dacs | abrotman: no no , please forget about the ATA now, it is an external device that looks just like a router |
| 03:17.39 | dacs | abrotman: i just want to get the other ethernet to work |
| 03:17.41 | abrotman | stop confusing me .. i'm american .. we do silly things! |
| 03:17.43 | mmcr_ | davicom semiconductor... |
| 03:17.55 | abrotman | dacs: get a new NIC |
| 03:18.09 | abrotman | those tulip cards were great in 2.4 and before .. not so easy to get working in 2.6 |
| 03:18.22 | abrotman | they're either tulip or de4x5 .. and they don't always work anymore |
| 03:18.39 | mmcr_ | he can tried anyway |
| 03:19.50 | dacs | what?! |
| 03:20.40 | abrotman | your card is either tulip or de4x5 .. but i've stopped using tulip based cards in 2.6 because they tend to be problematic |
| 03:21.21 | mmcr_ | damn... since i install debian i can get my usbs to work |
| 03:21.22 | mmcr_ | :S |
| 03:23.13 | dacs | brb |
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| 03:29.11 | maddash | merry fucking christmas! |
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| 03:29.40 | mmcr_ | maddash: why fucking ? |
| 03:30.17 | maddash | mmcr_: 'cause this is #debian |
| 03:30.41 | abrotman | lisper: i still don't see your bug |
| 03:31.20 | PaulTT | How can I determine if scsi disks are configured as a raid 1 array? |
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| 03:31.34 | abrotman | hwraid? |
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| 03:33.32 | PaulTT | is that a package? |
| 03:34.04 | abrotman | it's a question |
| 03:34.09 | abrotman | is it hardware raid or software raid |
| 03:34.56 | PaulTT | I believe a hardware raid |
| 03:35.15 | abrotman | you'd configure the raid1 array in the hardware controller if it is actually hardware raid |
| 03:35.30 | enouf | might be fakeraid - careful |
| 03:35.38 | abrotman | with scsi? |
| 03:35.40 | PaulTT | 03:07.0 RAID bus controller: Adaptec ASC-39320(B) U320 w/HostRAID (rev 10) |
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| 03:35.44 | PaulTT | (from lspci) |
| 03:35.45 | enouf | oh |
| 03:35.52 | enouf | missed that part, doh |
| 03:36.10 | PaulTT | so, if its' a hardware raid, debian doesn't know? |
| 03:36.11 | enouf | right, hardware |
| 03:36.28 | PaulTT | it just sees it as /sda1? |
| 03:36.35 | abrotman | PaulTT: right |
| 03:36.39 | abrotman | well ... as sda |
| 03:36.41 | enouf | Adaptec i'm sure know, what's cat /proc/scsi/scsi tell ya |
| 03:37.02 | enouf | how about /sys/class/scsi* |
| 03:37.17 | enouf | lssscsi might as well |
| 03:37.24 | enouf | er lsscsi |
| 03:37.47 | PaulTT | [0:0:0:0] disk FUJITSU MAT3147NP 5704 /dev/sda |
| 03:37.49 | PaulTT | [0:0:1:0] disk FUJITSU MAW3147NP 5803 /dev/sdb |
| 03:38.09 | abrotman | so set the hw raid1 in the raid controller |
| 03:38.33 | PaulTT | I don't have physical access to the machine.. so I'm simply attempting to verify it's what I requested. |
| 03:38.38 | mmcr_ | maddash: i dont get it .... :S |
| 03:39.02 | abrotman | PaulTT: i can't guarantee that the 39320 is a hwraid controller .. but it's decent odds |
| 03:39.05 | lisper | abrotman: maybe the stupid exim s*it screwed the report up. I could never get that c*ap working |
| 03:39.10 | enouf | sdparm perhaps (for info as well as http://sg.torque.net/sg/tools.html ) |
| 03:39.11 | lisper | I hate it |
| 03:39.20 | abrotman | lisper: what is s*it ? |
| 03:39.24 | lisper | shit |
| 03:39.27 | lisper | lol |
| 03:39.28 | abrotman | OH LORD! |
| 03:39.31 | abrotman | he swore! |
| 03:39.33 | PaulTT | I'm going to have them fix this.. all of the partitions are screwed |
| 03:39.41 | abrotman | i'm telling!!!! .. MOM!!! lisper said a bad word! |
| 03:39.47 | enouf | ouch, remotely? |
| 03:39.48 | lisper | don't dare |
| 03:39.51 | lisper | lel |
| 03:39.52 | lisper | lol |
| 03:39.53 | PaulTT | I wanted /boot, swap, and the rest |
| 03:40.02 | PaulTT | not seven partitions all 2 megs large. |
| 03:40.12 | abrotman | eh ... |
| 03:40.24 | PaulTT | it seems tedious at best to do this at this point |
| 03:40.26 | lisper | I'm rebooting as soon as I finish listening to this song |
| 03:40.28 | PaulTT | unless you all feel it's possible |
| 03:40.38 | enouf | PaulTT: you should've chosen 'expert' or 'expertgui' during install |
| 03:40.54 | enouf | F1-F10 are wonderous |
| 03:40.56 | PaulTT | enouf: I didn't install it--the folks at the hosting company did |
| 03:41.01 | abrotman | PaulTT: if it's truly hwraid .. they have to set it up .. or you need a serial console to do it yourself |
| 03:41.06 | enouf | PaulTT: blame them then ;-) |
| 03:41.15 | PaulTT | abrotman: I figured as much, I just wanted to verify it somehow |
| 03:41.26 | PaulTT | so.. if it's hardware raid, debian sees it as a standard regular drive |
| 03:41.29 | PaulTT | correct? |
| 03:41.35 | abrotman | PaulTT: yes |
| 03:41.38 | PaulTT | and all the raid stuff happens on the hardware? |
| 03:41.40 | PaulTT | good |
| 03:41.44 | enouf | yep |
| 03:42.12 | PaulTT | what scares me is that fdisk -l shows /dev/sdb as : Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table |
| 03:42.14 | PaulTT | is that normal? |
| 03:42.23 | PaulTT | or should it not even see sdb? |
| 03:42.29 | enouf | well , it's cpu and logic, Filesystems though and such as well as block size, hrm |
| 03:42.54 | abrotman | PaulTT: if it's hwriad .. it won't even see sdb |
| 03:43.05 | abrotman | if it's configured to use raid |
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| 03:43.31 | PaulTT | that's what I would think |
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| 03:48.24 | tyler2435 | http://danny.oz.au/danny/humour/green-eggs-linux.html |
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| 03:49.39 | PaulTT | Rather disappointing... I was hoping to have this server up and running before Christmas. |
| 03:49.49 | PaulTT | this is the second week of trying to get this thing configured properly. |
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| 03:51.13 | abrotman | PaulTT: maybe if they'd have done it right the frist time! |
| 03:51.16 | abrotman | first |
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| 03:55.03 | enouf | PaulTT: what's the partitionID on those disks - 'fd' or '8e' would be software - also if mdadm (/proc/mdstat{s}, /etc/md* exists) or if the dmraid, dmsetup pkgs are being used, that's softraid (which it seems you don't have) - i'd imagine actual Disk size/space would tell you if RAID 1 (1 disk size - mirrored) or 0 (2x disk size) |
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| 03:55.30 | PaulTT | enouf: Where do I find partitionID? |
| 03:55.39 | abrotman | if there are only two disks .. it's not hardware raid .. he wouldn't have an sdb |
| 03:55.53 | enouf | well, run fdisk -l /dev/sda |
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| 03:56.19 | enouf | cfdisk, sfdisk, er.. file -s /dev/sda even |
| 03:56.33 | enouf | abrotman: ok |
| 03:56.54 | PaulTT | partition 1: ID=0x83 |
| 03:57.20 | PaulTT | no /etc/md or /proc/mdstat |
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| 03:57.47 | enouf | i'm curious what "udevinfo -q all -n /dev/sda" says, if anything (assuming no partitions, or if partitions exist - add any parition number) |
| 03:57.47 | PaulTT | it appears to me that there's sda which is formatted |
| 03:57.51 | PaulTT | and sdb which is not formatted |
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| 03:58.08 | abrotman | enouf: i have a machien with hwraid1 SAS drives .. dmesg | grep sd .. shows only one drive |
| 03:58.11 | enouf | yeah 83 is standard linux partition ID |
| 03:58.21 | PaulTT | E: ID_FS_USAGE=raid |
| 03:58.22 | PaulTT | E: ID_FS_TYPE=adaptec_raid_member |
| 03:58.45 | enouf | abrotman: ok - PaulTT abrotman knows more about it, and even has a setup there |
| 03:58.55 | enouf | nice |
| 03:59.08 | nickname | does anyone in here know of a good application which allows me to burn a dvd from a media file which is already encoded in xvid/a52 format |
| 03:59.21 | PaulTT | hmm... well this sucks :) |
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| 03:59.37 | enouf | PaulTT: now try sdb |
| 03:59.38 | Nyle | i dunno |
| 04:00.26 | enouf | er, avidemux? or maybe cinerella, or . i dunno :-P |
| 04:00.33 | Nyle | no |
| 04:00.38 | Nyle | mencoder |
| 04:00.40 | enouf | NO! |
| 04:00.44 | enouf | oh |
| 04:00.47 | Nyle | merry xmas asshole |
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| 04:01.04 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:01.17 | nickname | does anyone in here know of a good application which allows me to burn a dvd from a media file which is already encoded in xvid/a52 format |
| 04:01.28 | Nyle | !repeat |
| 04:01.29 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 04:01.49 | enouf | nickname: if it;s an avi container try http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2006/12/01/avi-to-dvd-with-ffmpeg-and-dvdauthor/ |
| 04:02.31 | Nyle | ask in mplayer that how can u generate dvd format VOB files fro a movie |
| 04:02.43 | Nyle | then use k3b to burn the files in a dvd structure |
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| 04:02.53 | Nyle | like audio_ts and video_ts |
| 04:03.04 | Nyle | video_ts is the one that should have all vob files |
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| 04:04.12 | Nyle | mmmmm |
| 04:04.20 | Nyle | chicken wings |
| 04:04.42 | enouf | nickname: how about http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ |
| 04:05.11 | enouf | dvdauthor for structure |
| 04:05.45 | enouf | Nyle: they need to be CAPS, aka VIDEO_TS |
| 04:06.03 | enouf | for DVD-ROM specs |
| 04:06.33 | PaulTT | enouf: sdb outputs the same |
| 04:06.39 | Nyle | yeh |
| 04:06.45 | Nyle | i was eating a hot wing |
| 04:06.46 | Nyle | leave me alone |
| 04:06.52 | Nyle | you're right though |
| 04:07.36 | Nyle | enouf: how was your xmas? |
| 04:07.38 | enouf | PaulTT: wonder about the df -h says - and how big are the HDDs each? $ lshal | grep storage.size |
| 04:07.55 | enouf | Nyle: mezza mezza - thanks, and yours? |
| 04:08.04 | Nyle | I don't celebrate it |
| 04:08.08 | Nyle | I worked |
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| 04:08.18 | Nyle | my room mate's gf is over for xmas, i don't like her much |
| 04:08.23 | Nyle | so i try to stay away |
| 04:08.24 | enouf | Nyle: double time? xtra tips? |
| 04:08.31 | enouf | ugh |
| 04:08.32 | Nyle | nah |
| 04:08.38 | enouf | go to your gfs then ;-) |
| 04:08.41 | Nyle | i've noticed, black people and jewish people do NOT tip |
| 04:08.49 | Nyle | no racism, no negativity meant, just a fact i noticed |
| 04:08.54 | enouf | well .. |
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| 04:09.26 | Nyle | few business had a pizza parties |
| 04:09.42 | enouf | should've been a mailman, that way you;d have reg same customers, feel obligated ;-) |
| 04:09.47 | Nyle | I took one over there, like 300$ total bill, guy gives me 400$ |
| 04:09.49 | Nyle | im like ok thanks |
| 04:10.13 | Nyle | its cool man, I do my computer business during the day, and deliver pizza for a couple of hours a night |
| 04:10.14 | enouf | sounds good |
| 04:10.22 | Nyle | and try to graduate my finish degree |
| 04:10.28 | enouf | sure |
| 04:10.29 | Nyle | er.. |
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| 04:10.32 | Nyle | finish my degree |
| 04:10.38 | Nyle | brain fart |
| 04:10.44 | enouf | finnish? O.o |
| 04:10.47 | Nyle | no |
| 04:10.51 | Nyle | complete |
| 04:10.52 | Nyle | graduate |
| 04:10.56 | enouf | duh |
| 04:10.57 | Nyle | with a bachelors in CIS |
| 04:11.05 | Nyle | information securitaaaan |
| 04:11.07 | Nyle | like cartman |
| 04:11.12 | Nyle | respek my authorataaan |
| 04:12.09 | Nyle | man I never thought debian would be this awesome |
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| 04:12.39 | Nyle | some guy i knew in college, gave me a UPS shirt, united pot smokers you know, and said he was in some group called CyberArmy.com |
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| 04:12.43 | aFlag | what's CIS? |
| 04:12.46 | Nyle | he gave ma a copy of potato |
| 04:12.49 | Nyle | said check it out |
| 04:12.56 | Nyle | since then debian has been kickin my as |
| 04:12.58 | Nyle | and i love it |
| 04:13.04 | Nyle | aFlag: Computer Information Security |
| 04:13.06 | harry | I'm haviing a weird error where sometimes when I press a key it's like it was a press-and-hold type thing |
| 04:13.12 | Nyle | its not really hands on, its mostly management level |
| 04:13.31 | Nyle | but its regular bacherlos in compjter sicens + security courses for speciality |
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| 04:13.54 | Nyle | harry: one key is sending multiple keystrokes |
| 04:13.59 | Nyle | just that one key or all keys |
| 04:14.04 | Nyle | ? |
| 04:15.02 | harry | Nyle: occasionally when I am typing it will put in a bunch of keystrokes |
| 04:15.26 | harry | eg Sannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnta |
| 04:15.28 | harry | etc |
| 04:15.34 | Nyle | harry: you haven't been smoking any crack have you? |
| 04:15.40 | Nyle | j/k ;) |
| 04:15.56 | harry | Nyle: no, and it seems like any key |
| 04:15.57 | Nyle | I dunno what could be a problem |
| 04:16.11 | harry | brb |
| 04:16.40 | Nyle | try to run 'xev' in xterm and then press a key once quickly |
| 04:16.56 | Nyle | test it out and see if there are multiple keycodes being sent when you press it only once |
| 04:16.59 | Nyle | also just mabye |
| 04:17.03 | Nyle | check your keyboard on another pc |
| 04:17.05 | Nyle | or try another keybaord |
| 04:17.13 | Nyle | it could be the keybard too |
| 04:17.18 | Nyle | mayb its old |
| 04:17.20 | Nyle | !enter |
| 04:17.20 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
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| 04:18.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | !lart Nyle |
| 04:18.25 | Nyle | man |
| 04:18.34 | Nyle | maan dude |
| 04:18.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | :) |
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| 04:20.09 | Nyle | :) |
| 04:20.14 | VincentC | could anybody recommend a version control system for tracking revisions of my homework assigments? |
| 04:20.22 | Nyle | lol |
| 04:20.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | lol |
| 04:20.37 | Nyle | git |
| 04:20.44 | Nyle | svn |
| 04:20.47 | Nyle | cvs |
| 04:20.49 | VincentC | i've tried subversion and will probably be using a different system each semester |
| 04:20.54 | VincentC | so anything will work basically? |
| 04:21.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | Nyle, hardly a recomendation |
| 04:21.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | VincentC, bzr is easy, and mostly subversion command compatible |
| 04:21.21 | Nyle | its like madam kimay's phillipino palace |
| 04:21.24 | Nyle | take your pick |
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| 04:21.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | cvs and svn both require effort to get going |
| 04:21.45 | Nyle | Kamping_Kaiser: you heard the guy |
| 04:21.48 | Nyle | he wants to try em all out |
| 04:21.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | Nyle, gotta catch 'em all :) |
| 04:21.59 | enouf | had phone call |
| 04:22.10 | enouf | man you yapp |
| 04:22.39 | VincentC | not all at once, but i think it might be a good idea to start with something that won't be entirely awkward |
| 04:22.47 | Nyle | i know man |
| 04:22.54 | Nyle | I can talk up a storm |
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| 04:24.51 | Darth|\|yle | la de da ... |
| 04:25.02 | enouf | doo bee doo bee doo |
| 04:25.12 | Darth|\|yle | bop |
| 04:25.20 | Darth|\|yle | shoo doo bee doo bee do bop |
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| 04:27.27 | dacs | guys if i want to work on my network, how can i backup my current config so that i don't mess it up |
| 04:27.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | cp? |
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| 04:29.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | cp == cyclopentadien |
| 04:30.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | glad that I could help |
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| 04:31.10 | dacs | mmcr_: are you still around |
| 04:31.16 | VincentC | i've installed debian on a -really- old box but i'm thinking of upgrading. Is there anything available that could copy all my config files and packages installed so that i can ease the transition w/o copying the whole hard drive? |
| 04:33.58 | Genuine-Santa | Kamping_Kaiser: Error! your copy of Santa is not genuine, to recieve Microsoft Santa's gift and to receive gift support and extended warranty your copy of Microsoft Santa must be identified as genine. |
| 04:33.59 | mmcr_ | dacs: certanly. |
| 04:34.39 | mmcr_ | !lart Genuine-Santa |
| 04:35.04 | dacs | mmcr_: so can you help me get my wireless eth to route internet connectivity to my reg eth card?! |
| 04:35.50 | mmcr_ | I dont have too much experience with PCMCIA, sorry. |
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| 04:37.35 | enouf | VincentC: for config, you need /etc/ and /home stuff atleast - for a list of pkgs installed you can feed a new install "/msg dpkg reinstall" |
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| 04:39.47 | VincentC | thanks |
| 04:39.52 | enouf | dacs: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 04:40.59 | liable | Santa-H4CK3D: i believe they released a patch 2355 on the 24th, its called the naughty boy patch which stops certain logins |
| 04:42.28 | Santa-H4CK3D | Error: Unable to connect to Santa-Update servers: Invalid Authentification Code provided |
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| 04:44.25 | Ace2016 | -_- |
| 04:44.59 | Darth|\|yle | wju os tjos beomg doscissed om jere |
| 04:45.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | :D |
| 04:45.07 | Darth|\|yle | ficl |
| 04:45.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | afk. :) |
| 04:45.08 | Darth|\|yle | fuck |
| 04:45.13 | Darth|\|yle | why is this being discussed in here |
| 04:45.20 | liable | what? |
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| 04:45.26 | Darth|\|yle | microsoft servers |
| 04:45.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | rofls |
| 04:45.40 | liable | dude, its a christmas joke |
| 04:45.46 | Darth|\|yle | oh its a joke |
| 04:45.51 | Darth|\|yle | wow that was a crappy joke |
| 04:45.55 | liable | lighten up |
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| 04:46.04 | Darth|\|yle | im very light |
| 04:46.21 | Darth|\|yle | its like in that movie anger management |
| 04:46.44 | denver | is it unusual for the installer to hang when it is attempting to create the filesystem on an encrypted partition? |
| 04:46.47 | Darth|\|yle | you could be as calm as a hindu cow, but irc peopel with thier constant, lighten up, chill out, blah blah will get the hindu cow mad |
| 04:46.50 | Darth|\|yle | hehe |
| 04:47.18 | Ace2016 | ok relax, lets just talk about ubuntu for a while :D |
| 04:47.23 | Darth|\|yle | denver: not really |
| 04:47.45 | dacs | can someone take a look at my dmesg out put, it looks like its F**kd up |
| 04:47.46 | liable | !beat Ace2016 |
| 04:47.47 | liable | :P |
| 04:47.48 | denver | well it has managed to do so on me after spending the past 8 hours setting up encrypted lvm |
| 04:47.59 | Darth|\|yle | its not good to hang but on a large size volume it could take a while |
| 04:48.03 | Darth|\|yle | a WHILE |
| 04:48.08 | denver | oh it is a small volume |
| 04:48.10 | denver | 5 gigs |
| 04:48.11 | Darth|\|yle | 8 hours |
| 04:48.13 | Darth|\|yle | damn |
| 04:48.18 | Darth|\|yle | 5gigs isn't much at all |
| 04:48.20 | denver | it hasn't made it to the large partition yet |
| 04:48.21 | Darth|\|yle | hmm |
| 04:48.29 | denver | it has hung on the small one |
| 04:48.43 | Darth|\|yle | you seen anything in the installer console |
| 04:48.47 | Darth|\|yle | tty4 |
| 04:48.54 | coondogster | what was the joke? |
| 04:48.55 | Darth|\|yle | do alt+f4 to see the output |
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| 04:49.01 | denver | if i was to restart the installer would i be able to salvage all that time i spent creating the encrypted lvm setup? |
| 04:49.11 | Darth|\|yle | no need yet |
| 04:49.17 | denver | ide failed opcode balh balh |
| 04:49.19 | Darth|\|yle | go to alt+f4 and look ther for a clue |
| 04:49.20 | denver | its outputting errors |
| 04:49.24 | Darth|\|yle | hm |
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| 04:49.28 | Darth|\|yle | are your physical disks ok? |
| 04:49.36 | denver | yes i am quite sure it is fine |
| 04:49.53 | coondogster | maybe the jumper is set wrong? |
| 04:49.53 | Darth|\|yle | first you should run a physical scan on the disks |
| 04:49.54 | enouf | !tell dacs -about pastebin |
| 04:50.03 | Darth|\|yle | you can't rule out that it might be bad |
| 04:50.10 | Genuine-Santa | what can i say, recovery partition :D |
| 04:50.13 | denver | coondogster, i don't believe so because it hasn't done this in the past |
| 04:50.18 | Genuine-Santa | ok no more windows thing |
| 04:50.27 | Darth|\|yle | first thing we do at work is also to check the hardware components really quickly before doing any software work |
| 04:50.49 | denver | i can't say 100% there is not a hardware problem but i am almost certain there is not |
| 04:51.15 | Darth|\|yle | anyway other than that |
| 04:51.34 | Darth|\|yle | you can just go to alt+f2 and kill the pid that has probably hung |
| 04:51.34 | Genuine-Santa | Darth|\|yle: what od you mean check the hardware? like just look inside the pc or what? |
| 04:51.45 | coondogster | how many hard drives do you have in your comp? |
| 04:51.51 | Darth|\|yle | then you can go back to alt+f1 to the debian installer and try to run that step after |
| 04:51.56 | denver | coondogster, one |
| 04:52.13 | denver | i will attempt to kill off the problem process then |
| 04:52.15 | Darth|\|yle | denver: i wouldn't waste time on this before i physically tested the disk |
| 04:52.27 | denver | if this doesn't work then i will test it |
| 04:52.33 | Darth|\|yle | i've wasted countless hour trying to repair boxes only to find out a physical conponent was bad |
| 04:52.41 | Darth|\|yle | so i learned my lesson |
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| 04:53.12 | Darth|\|yle | ata op code errors usually occur here ime on a bad disk too so i dunno anyway good luck |
| 04:53.15 | Darth|\|yle | hope it work sout |
| 04:53.43 | coondogster | can the HD be too small? |
| 04:53.52 | Nyle | nah |
| 04:54.17 | denver | i managed to kill off the problem process but now the installer has went blank on me ;P |
| 04:54.33 | Nyle | ah boy |
| 04:55.43 | coondogster | in your bios do you have plug and play disabled? |
| 04:58.03 | coondogster | denver, can you install without encrypt? |
| 04:58.53 | denver | coondogster, that is what is so weird |
| 04:58.54 | denver | i can |
| 04:59.14 | coondogster | what version are you trying to install? |
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| 04:59.25 | coondogster | debian version |
| 04:59.47 | denver | 4.0 |
| 05:01.20 | enouf | are you doing / on encrypted LVM? |
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| 05:01.39 | denver | iyes enouf |
| 05:02.05 | coondogster | can you run a badblocks? |
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| 05:03.57 | denver | its the disk |
| 05:04.15 | denver | damnit |
| 05:04.25 | denver | thank you for the help |
| 05:05.20 | enouf | omg, wiki.debian.org is broken |
| 05:06.01 | enouf | (not to mention i forgot to bookmark the article) |
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| 05:17.05 | enouf | well, anyways this is the article, though raid+crypto, no lvm per se http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/RAIDvsCrypto?highlight=%28Raid%29 |
| 05:17.55 | enouf | the installation guide has info it though http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s03.html |
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| 05:36.46 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 05:36.46 | dpkg | <Aleric> pumpkin0: I noticed that there are a LOT of capacitor on the the motherbord of 1200 micro Farad (6.3 V), that ALL have 'burst open' ;) .. stuff is coming out of it. I now think that it might be a reason for at least extra instability. |
| 05:37.00 | liable | heh |
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| 05:37.41 | Guerin | heh |
| 05:37.46 | Guerin | quality |
| 05:38.04 | Guerin | liable: salutations |
| 05:38.49 | liable | Guerin: danke, and back. any family members in hospital yet? ;) |
| 05:38.50 | spal | what was the dpkg factoid for getting the links to xorg.conf DisplaySize formula? |
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| 05:40.28 | Guerin | \i'm not familiar with such a formula |
| 05:41.10 | Guerin | liable: not yet, despite a day at the beach tearing up the sand on my motorbike |
| 05:41.36 | Guerin | we failed at motofishing because the wind is much, much stronger out on the coast than in our little valley |
| 05:42.19 | liable | dirt bike++ |
| 05:42.47 | liable | cant even have a beer today :( |
| 05:42.51 | Guerin | T1.5+lieu FTW |
| 05:42.51 | Daveman | ergo, liable is liable :p |
| 05:43.12 | Guerin | i did 13h yesterday, which entitles me to a day off whever I like |
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| 05:43.54 | Nyle | hi |
| 05:43.57 | Guerin | gh |
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| 05:51.21 | Claudio32m | whats the file called where you add a line to tell linux not to resolve your dns when loging in? |
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| 05:55.42 | [dive] | hi all. some morning question (: at vlc site they told that vlc in the testing, but i can't see it in lenny. what i do wrong? in debian-multimedia i can't see it too. must i compile it by myself? |
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| 05:59.10 | Guerin | Claudio32m: explain |
| 05:59.33 | Guerin | [dive]: you can probably use the vlc .debs - also: |
| 05:59.39 | Guerin | !why is vlc not intesting? |
| 05:59.41 | dpkg | Guerin: what are you talking about? |
| 05:59.42 | Guerin | !why is vlc not in testing? |
| 05:59.42 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 05:59.53 | Guerin | [dive]: see there ↑ |
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| 06:00.16 | [dive] | Guerin: thanx |
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| 06:02.54 | [dive] | Guerin: impressive reasons (: |
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| 06:08.00 | sparr | I have multiple releases in my apt sources. I have pinned one package to a particular release, and * to another release. What could cause other packages to get pulled from the one-package release? |
| 06:08.43 | Guerin | sparr: deps, or if they're not present in the other release |
| 06:10.10 | sparr | Guerin: the package, by name, is present in 3 different releases in my sources. apt-cache policy is putting the wrong one at the top |
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| 06:10.30 | Guerin | mm, i would guess your pin is incorrect |
| 06:10.40 | Guerin | pinning is something of a black art |
| 06:10.46 | Guerin | even I don't really grok it |
| 06:11.15 | jupenzot | hello guys...i've already asked this question on the vmware channel and it seems no-one is responding |
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| 06:11.42 | jupenzot | ive installed vmware on my pc and try to forward port 80 but its not working |
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| 06:15.03 | enouf | Guerin: fwiw - from another channel, Claudio32m was looking for "UseDNS No" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config - but i misguessed with the various /etc/resolv.conf, nsswitch, nslookup, rlogin, slogin usuals - but he never mentioned ssh as you can see |
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| 06:20.44 | Nyle | !pinning |
| 06:20.44 | dpkg | If you are running stable, don't pin; use a backport. Ask me about <backports> or <simple sid backport>. If you're using testing, man apt_preferences or see http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning. |
| 06:21.38 | Nyle | hey buddy |
| 06:21.39 | jetscreamer | i think it's over... |
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| 06:21.42 | Nyle | merry christmas |
| 06:21.54 | Nyle | merry the-mass-of-the-christ |
| 06:21.56 | jetscreamer | just waiting for the returns |
| 06:21.59 | Nyle | ahaha im not funny check me out |
| 06:22.09 | Nyle | jetscreamer: what are you talking about |
| 06:22.14 | jetscreamer | i just call it christ-mass |
| 06:22.31 | jetscreamer | me working like a flea on a dog |
| 06:22.37 | Nyle | damn man |
| 06:22.49 | Nyle | what do you do that you have to do so much in christmas |
| 06:23.05 | jetscreamer | deliver christmas gifts among other things? |
| 06:23.13 | Nyle | are you asking me? |
| 06:23.19 | jetscreamer | no |
| 06:23.21 | Nyle | oh |
| 06:23.26 | Nyle | oh ok then |
| 06:23.38 | Nyle | I deliver pizza part time |
| 06:23.54 | Nyle | and the rest of the time I am on my perpetual quest |
| 06:23.57 | Nyle | to get baked |
| 06:24.05 | jetscreamer | what happened to the computer job |
| 06:24.10 | Nyle | I do it too |
| 06:24.15 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 06:24.17 | Nyle | I don't work for the guy anymore |
| 06:24.20 | Nyle | I make more money on my own |
| 06:24.26 | jetscreamer | cool |
| 06:24.35 | Nyle | getting my co. registered |
| 06:24.46 | Nyle | then gonna try to do cheap advertising somehow |
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| 06:26.10 | Nyle | i've almost got everything ready too |
| 06:26.11 | streuner | Nyle, jetscreamer: every read "Rifkin"? |
| 06:26.21 | streuner | s/every/ever/ |
| 06:26.22 | Nyle | um rifkin? |
| 06:26.38 | jetscreamer | the name sounds familiar but no i don't think so streuner |
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| 06:27.51 | streuner | Nyle, jetscreamer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Work |
| 06:28.16 | grub | vlc going in tomorrow? |
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| 06:29.02 | Guerin | nyle can't read |
| 06:29.25 | Nyle | Guerin: what did you say? |
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| 06:29.46 | Guerin | Nyle: i said your fish needs a bicycle |
| 06:29.57 | Nyle | Guerin: I'm sorry, come again? |
| 06:30.11 | Guerin | that's what your mother said |
| 06:30.18 | Nyle | hey |
| 06:30.24 | Guerin | ;) |
| 06:30.26 | Nyle | watch it |
| 06:30.34 | Guerin | yeah, ok, I crossed a line |
| 06:30.42 | Guerin | i shouldn't have told you about that |
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| 06:31.30 | Nyle | im not high enough yet |
| 06:31.36 | Guerin | ah, sorry |
| 06:31.47 | Nyle | has nothing to do with you |
| 06:31.54 | Guerin | my dude still hasn't come through |
| 06:32.08 | Nyle | although i would appreiciate if you showed a bit more respect and left my maternal parental unit out of the conv. |
| 06:32.18 | Guerin | it's mid-season here, crops go in at Labour weekend and come out at easter, so Christmas is drought time |
| 06:32.33 | Nyle | i'm stocked up |
| 06:32.47 | Guerin | i'm just hoping he comes through before new year |
| 06:32.48 | Nyle | i'm in nyc man |
| 06:32.50 | jetscreamer | i saw one of those once, about 15 years ago |
| 06:32.52 | Nyle | everybody got osme |
| 06:33.04 | Guerin | i could probably get some |
| 06:33.08 | Nyle | Guerin: grow your ow |
| 06:33.10 | Nyle | own! |
| 06:33.14 | Guerin | i just don't want to have to deal with evil bastards |
| 06:33.19 | Nyle | have one plant |
| 06:33.23 | Nyle | for personal use |
| 06:33.23 | Guerin | i'm trying to convince deb to do so |
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| 06:33.35 | Guerin | i can barely grow mold, whereas she's a bona fide horticulturalist |
| 06:34.09 | Nyle | i am not a hortawhatchamacallit, but I can grow the shit out of some herbage |
| 06:34.17 | jetscreamer | get technical then guerin |
| 06:34.21 | jetscreamer | go hydro |
| 06:34.26 | Nyle | they taught us how to mange ph levels and nutrients and etc. in 8th grade |
| 06:34.30 | Nyle | science & technology |
| 06:34.47 | Guerin | mm, trust me, I've considered it |
| 06:34.55 | Nyle | i still rememberd, and cultivated some magic mushrooms a few years ago |
| 06:34.58 | Nyle | many crops |
| 06:35.19 | streuner | Guerin: heh |
| 06:35.24 | Nyle | oh boy |
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| 06:35.36 | Nyle | life in a country where drug laws are almost nonexistence is the shit |
| 06:35.38 | jetscreamer | oh hey has anybody ever woken up from a dram on a planet full of snakes? |
| 06:35.39 | Nyle | i tell ya |
| 06:35.45 | jetscreamer | s/dram/dream/ |
| 06:35.47 | streuner | Guerin: what do you think that both just dont read "Rifkin"? :-) |
| 06:35.53 | Nyle | streuner: i read it |
| 06:35.59 | Guerin | streuner: i know not your `rifkin' |
| 06:36.07 | jetscreamer | economist |
| 06:36.17 | Nyle | streuner: I believe that we need to also stop having children for about 20 years or so |
| 06:36.23 | Nyle | just for one generation as a planet |
| 06:36.25 | Guerin | oh, that rifkin |
| 06:36.29 | Nyle | stop having kids for like 20 years |
| 06:36.33 | streuner | Guerin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Rifkin |
| 06:36.35 | Nyle | that will help solve a lot of problems |
| 06:36.50 | jetscreamer | a nice war or plague will fix that too nyle |
| 06:36.53 | Nyle | or it should be made into a law that you can't have more than 2 kids |
| 06:36.56 | Nyle | seriously |
| 06:37.08 | Nyle | too many people in this world man |
| 06:37.12 | Nyle | and people don't realize this |
| 06:37.15 | jetscreamer | seriously, war is more popular than population control |
| 06:37.21 | Nyle | that is true |
| 06:37.22 | jetscreamer | and i've known that for a while |
| 06:37.26 | liable | and profitable.. |
| 06:37.29 | Nyle | jetscreamer: have you seen idiocracy? |
| 06:37.31 | Nyle | that movie is great |
| 06:37.36 | jetscreamer | birth rate is exponential |
| 06:37.37 | Guerin | and produces better movies |
| 06:37.42 | jetscreamer | no never heard of it |
| 06:37.47 | Nyle | its good |
| 06:37.50 | Nyle | hilarious |
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| 06:38.11 | Nyle | its about humans in the year 2505, and evolution took a favor in higher numbers reproduction |
| 06:38.13 | streuner | no, the machines in 20 years are more and more productive, no need for plagues or wars... |
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| 06:38.20 | jetscreamer | remember nyle: soylent green is made out of people |
| 06:38.20 | Nyle | basicaly stupid people procreated more than smart people |
| 06:38.33 | gg | AIDS |
| 06:38.39 | jetscreamer | uh |
| 06:38.41 | Nyle | so there was a planet full of stupid people who couldn't even figure out a cube doesn't go in a circle |
| 06:38.42 | Daveman | sif |
| 06:38.52 | jetscreamer | stupid people DO procreate more than smart people |
| 06:38.56 | Nyle | its a really good movie with a very nice message at the end |
| 06:38.59 | jetscreamer | haven't you noticed? |
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| 06:39.13 | gg | You cant have too many smart people otherwise there will be too much competition and not enough slaves |
| 06:39.14 | Guerin | Nyle: it's a good concept turned into a shit movie |
| 06:39.17 | Guerin | like so many |
| 06:39.18 | Nyle | jetscreamer: yeh, but its a movie about what could happen if this continues to go unchecked for hundreds of years |
| 06:39.28 | wols_ | gg: not fast enough. africa has the highest infection rate and still they breed like rabbits |
| 06:39.29 | Nyle | Guerin: not really THAT bad of a flick |
| 06:39.35 | Guerin | yeah, it's pretty bad |
| 06:39.42 | Nyle | Guerin: oh yeh and http://www.youtube.com/bungnugget |
| 06:39.52 | jetscreamer | it's what's happening now, if you can see the flow |
| 06:39.55 | Guerin | it could really have been much better |
| 06:39.55 | Nyle | Guerin: dunno if you saw, but i got some really horrible shred |
| 06:40.05 | Guerin | Nyle: oh, is this new |
| 06:40.07 | gg | wols_: And then they all become HIV immuned -_- |
| 06:40.11 | Nyle | Guerin: i dunno |
| 06:40.19 | Guerin | the other stuff you had up there was very ... melo-black |
| 06:40.24 | wols_ | gg: not likely |
| 06:40.30 | Nyle | melo what? |
| 06:40.37 | gg | There are alot of HIV resistant people already apparently |
| 06:40.52 | Guerin | Nyle: like the melodic interludes and shit you hear in black metal |
| 06:41.04 | Nyle | wow |
| 06:41.09 | jetscreamer | oh hey speaking of: |
| 06:41.11 | Nyle | its far from it |
| 06:41.20 | Guerin | well, I'm no expert on the genre |
| 06:41.21 | Nyle | its like slayerish speed metalish type |
| 06:41.31 | Nyle | melodic speed/thrash metal |
| 06:41.39 | Nyle | how you gonna say its that black metal garbage |
| 06:41.40 | Nyle | c'mon man |
| 06:41.41 | Guerin | the only met'l i listen to is cheesy-arsed folk met'l |
| 06:41.55 | Guerin | and then only becauser it's hilarious |
| 06:41.59 | Nyle | heh |
| 06:42.01 | jetscreamer | i plug into my line in, but my signal just goes straight to the output, wtf i can't play with the signal |
| 06:42.19 | Nyle | Guerin: but which video did you watch? |
| 06:42.23 | Guerin | Nyle: did you listen to those burnside tracks? |
| 06:42.24 | Nyle | Guerin: i got two |
| 06:42.31 | Guerin | Nyle: both |
| 06:42.32 | Nyle | Guerin: yeh i did |
| 06:42.36 | Guerin | i forget which was which |
| 06:42.47 | Guerin | there's a man who can play guitar |
| 06:42.57 | aFlag | why are you guys talking about HIV? |
| 06:43.07 | Nyle | wols_ was wondering why I even join #debian |
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| 06:43.19 | Nyle | I was passing out so i didn't wanna answer that |
| 06:43.19 | Guerin | aFlag: `because we know all the ops are on holiday |
| 06:43.22 | streuner | aFlag: nobody talking about, there is only one :-) |
| 06:43.29 | Nyle | wols_: none of your damn bees wax. |
| 06:43.37 | jetscreamer | because we want a certain %age of the human population to die, aFlag ... would you like to volunteer? |
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| 06:44.46 | aFlag | can't see why not |
| 06:44.57 | streuner | Guerin: you study politics and dont know "Rifkin"? |
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| 06:45.17 | Guerin | streuner: Rifkin is an economist. I know of him, but I'm not intimately familiar with his work. |
| 06:45.34 | Guerin | I do know he's a dystopian nutter |
| 06:46.05 | jetscreamer | that machines replacing bluecollar is true, but fairly obvious |
| 06:46.28 | jetscreamer | as to what they'll do with their free time... |
| 06:46.34 | jetscreamer | maybe starve to death |
| 06:47.14 | Guerin | i think you mean `maybe revolt' |
| 06:47.33 | Guerin | it's not in peoples' natures to starve, unless forced to do so |
| 06:47.34 | wols_ | give em enough gruel and tv: why revolt? |
| 06:47.41 | Guerin | famine is universally accompanied by police state |
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| 06:48.01 | Guerin | (or civil war, or other breakdown of governance) |
| 06:49.24 | jetscreamer | no i would imagine anarchy while starving |
| 06:49.37 | Guerin | imagine what you like; it never happens |
| 06:49.39 | jetscreamer | (i suppose)] |
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| 06:49.46 | jetscreamer | i mean if they were starving |
| 06:49.53 | Guerin | anarchy requires organisation: that's the paradox |
| 06:49.58 | jetscreamer | but hey soylent green is cheap |
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| 06:51.28 | jetscreamer | hey let us sing chrismas carols!!! |
| 06:51.36 | Nyle | man I love socks |
| 06:51.37 | jetscreamer | err... with a t |
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| 06:51.48 | Nyle | whatever happens to the world, I hope they don't stop makig nice warm fluffly socks |
| 06:51.51 | Nyle | mmm |
| 06:51.56 | Nyle | eh fuck off |
| 06:51.56 | Nyle | heh |
| 06:51.59 | jetscreamer | Guerin's dirty socks |
| 06:52.31 | Nyle | i like hats too and golves, basically anything that keeps me warm |
| 06:52.32 | jetscreamer | man this is weird |
| 06:52.37 | Nyle | jetscreamer: what isn't |
| 06:53.10 | wols_ | Nyle: move to AZ |
| 06:53.28 | Nyle | nah |
| 06:53.30 | Nyle | i prefer louisiana |
| 06:53.37 | enouf | dubai |
| 06:53.41 | Nyle | back home is great |
| 06:53.48 | wols_ | Nyle: beware of the white hatted ones then... |
| 06:53.48 | streuner | or desert? |
| 06:54.03 | streuner | hehe |
| 06:54.04 | Nyle | wols_: i'm not black |
| 06:54.18 | wols_ | they hate all non whites equally |
| 06:54.20 | jetscreamer | i'm black... |
| 06:54.29 | streuner | yeah, but you are the typical "white man" too? ;-) |
| 06:54.33 | jetscreamer | blackwhitebrowngreen |
| 06:54.42 | Nyle | im almost white |
| 06:55.01 | Nyle | just a little brown |
| 06:55.03 | Nyle | you know |
| 06:55.04 | streuner | hm |
| 06:55.17 | jetscreamer | i'm beige |
| 06:55.33 | Nyle | yeh even white people aren't white |
| 06:55.36 | Nyle | they are off-white |
| 06:55.45 | jetscreamer | well try looking at their asses |
| 06:55.47 | jetscreamer | very white |
| 06:56.02 | jetscreamer | unless they sunbathe nude |
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| 06:56.05 | Nyle | i've a massive pr0n collections |
| 06:56.11 | Nyle | um.. did i say that outloud |
| 06:56.16 | enouf | hence; whiteass :-p |
| 06:56.30 | Nyle | we got "coonasses" |
| 06:56.33 | Nyle | down south |
| 06:56.45 | enouf | dumbasses are everywhere |
| 06:57.11 | Nyle | enouf: i can see that ;) |
| 06:57.15 | Nyle | ooooohh burn! |
| 06:57.53 | jetscreamer | coonass is another name for cajun |
| 06:57.57 | Nyle | yup |
| 06:58.12 | Nyle | man next time i go home im gonna go to houston too |
| 06:58.13 | enouf | spicy |
| 06:58.17 | jetscreamer | but what really sucks is i was taking a piss just now and my roach fell in |
| 06:58.23 | Nyle | awe |
| 06:58.28 | enouf | houston == lock up |
| 06:59.03 | jetscreamer | you have short roaches then, if you use it |
| 06:59.09 | enouf | locking surgical implements only |
| 06:59.11 | Nyle | i have NO roaches |
| 06:59.17 | jetscreamer | i haven't had a wallet in 15 or 20 years. seriously. |
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| 06:59.20 | Nyle | I put a little paper filter in the back of each jay |
| 06:59.24 | Nyle | so i can finish it |
| 06:59.30 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 06:59.35 | Nyle | :D |
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| 06:59.59 | Nyle | i gotta grow up out of this shit man |
| 07:00.06 | Nyle | i not a kid anymore and i can't keep tokin up like this |
| 07:00.15 | Nyle | got responsibilities now |
| 07:00.16 | Nyle | it sucks |
| 07:00.28 | enouf | spoken like a true bungnugget |
| 07:00.33 | Nyle | hehe |
| 07:00.39 | enouf | :-) |
| 07:00.47 | jetscreamer | just make more money |
| 07:00.58 | Nyle | the only person who has ever called me that was my brother |
| 07:01.06 | Nyle | one with the bung |
| 07:01.09 | Nyle | your holy bungness |
| 07:01.25 | Nyle | nugget of the bung, etc. ahh boy, i loved being a kid |
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| 07:01.39 | jetscreamer | but you know what the alternate meaning for bunghole is |
| 07:01.47 | Nyle | stopper in the keg |
| 07:01.51 | jetscreamer | and i don't mean on the cask |
| 07:01.52 | Nyle | or a hole in a beer keg |
| 07:01.59 | jetscreamer | cask/keg |
| 07:02.59 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 07:03.07 | Nyle | ? |
| 07:03.11 | Nyle | did you just look it up? |
| 07:03.20 | Nyle | letme look it up |
| 07:03.24 | jetscreamer | this is a good place to share this, i guess... new subject btw. uh no i didn't |
| 07:03.34 | jetscreamer | bunghole/asshole, btw |
| 07:03.39 | Nyle | 01:53 < streuner> yeah, but you are the typical "white man" too? ;-) |
| 07:03.39 | Nyle | 01:53 < jetscreamer> blackwhitebrowngreen |
| 07:03.55 | Nyle | A bunghole is a hole bored in a liquid-tight barrel. The hole is capped with a large cork-like object called a bung. |
| 07:03.59 | Nyle | oops |
| 07:04.06 | Nyle | i forgot i was on windows, select doesn't copy |
| 07:04.08 | Nyle | heh |
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| 07:04.16 | jetscreamer | i went to visit a cemetary today |
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| 07:04.24 | Nyle | why? |
| 07:04.37 | jetscreamer | grandparents |
| 07:04.41 | Nyle | ah |
| 07:04.44 | Nyle | rip |
| 07:04.54 | jetscreamer | so obviously, my last name is on the marker |
| 07:05.13 | jetscreamer | but i look to the right, i see my first name two spaces over |
| 07:05.32 | Nyle | mambojo o'malley? |
| 07:05.38 | enouf | jet? |
| 07:05.41 | Nyle | j/k, go on |
| 07:05.50 | Nyle | i mean you said you were black but also white |
| 07:05.58 | Nyle | mambojo is an african name, and o'malley is a typical irish whtie name |
| 07:06.05 | Nyle | maybe im not funny |
| 07:06.19 | jetscreamer | no, that's it. my real name is carved on two headstones that are next to each other |
| 07:06.38 | Nyle | its all good man |
| 07:06.43 | jetscreamer | missed the middle name though |
| 07:06.48 | Nyle | you're not afraid of a little death are you man |
| 07:06.53 | jetscreamer | no |
| 07:06.59 | Nyle | cool |
| 07:07.02 | jetscreamer | just certain levels of pain |
| 07:07.16 | Nyle | if i were to die right now there is nothing in this world i would miss except my guitar |
| 07:07.22 | Nyle | maybe thats why im still alive |
| 07:07.30 | Nyle | i really don't see any point in life |
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| 07:07.34 | Nyle | not my life but life in general |
| 07:07.45 | jetscreamer | warm fuzziness can be a pint |
| 07:07.48 | jetscreamer | point |
| 07:07.49 | blubberdiblub | does it have to have a point? |
| 07:08.09 | jetscreamer | it means what you want it to ,maybe |
| 07:08.13 | liable | warm fuzziness is in a pint |
| 07:08.15 | Nyle | no could be a line or somethingi n euclidean space if you want |
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| 07:09.16 | Nyle | ew i just smoked a seed by accident |
| 07:09.20 | jetscreamer | today, i said 'i want three jalepeno kolaches' and held up 3 fingers... she says 'you want two jalepeno kolaches?' |
| 07:09.27 | jetscreamer | seeds sucks |
| 07:09.35 | Nyle | this wasn't supposed to have seed |
| 07:09.44 | Nyle | 1 oucne had 1 seed so far and im almost out of the bag |
| 07:09.48 | jetscreamer | one or two is ok |
| 07:09.51 | Nyle | thats not bad for brown |
| 07:10.01 | Nyle | course i can't afford the highs all the time |
| 07:10.06 | Nyle | yet |
| 07:10.29 | jetscreamer | your mental acuity is greater if you don't smoke that btw |
| 07:10.38 | jetscreamer | good thing i have some to spare |
| 07:10.46 | Nyle | i just wanna make enough money to have a family successfully and not be poor and have a decent life but not be too rich either, and have a lfie time supply of trees |
| 07:10.54 | Nyle | that is correct |
| 07:11.15 | Nyle | i prefer the swhwag feel, its nicer and cleaner than the dro |
| 07:11.19 | Nyle | oh wait |
| 07:11.21 | Nyle | this is #debian |
| 07:11.26 | Nyle | im sure someone will complain soon enough |
| 07:11.27 | jetscreamer | (note that only a stupid person would destroy his brain when he knows it to be happening) |
| 07:11.37 | Nyle | jetscreamer: or a genius |
| 07:11.51 | jetscreamer | a subgenius |
| 07:11.55 | Nyle | maybe |
| 07:12.08 | jetscreamer | i never did understand that comic |
| 07:12.32 | Nyle | however knowing full well the consequences of a chocie and having to make it again is the test of a real man |
| 07:12.54 | Nyle | or woman |
| 07:13.10 | jetscreamer | yes oh oracle |
| 07:13.20 | Nyle | but you may find it funny |
| 07:13.25 | streuner | Guerin: do you know what politicians study in past first? |
| 07:13.30 | Nyle | but these things i already knew and read before i ever heard of the matrix |
| 07:13.42 | Nyle | just becuause something is on tv doesn't make it cheezy |
| 07:14.05 | jetscreamer | if you think about it: you're on tv atm |
| 07:14.08 | Nyle | for example the philosophy of the sythesis of reality etc. |
| 07:14.23 | jetscreamer | syn? |
| 07:14.27 | Nyle | ack |
| 07:14.41 | gg | How do I go about mounting my usb stick? I dont have /dev/sda |
| 07:14.59 | Nyle | gg: try lsub and see fi the connected thingy shows up |
| 07:15.01 | wols_ | gg: plug stick in, check dmesg |
| 07:15.05 | jetscreamer | do fdisk -l see where it is and mount it somewhere |
| 07:15.06 | Nyle | or that |
| 07:15.08 | jetscreamer | or dmesg |
| 07:15.22 | Nyle | dmesg |
| 07:15.49 | gg | fdisk -l shows nothing |
| 07:16.19 | jetscreamer | got usbfs et al whatever? |
| 07:16.29 | jetscreamer | what is that mss storage one? |
| 07:16.31 | liable | !find passivetex |
| 07:16.37 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'passivetex' (3 of 4): (/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/fo/passivetex.xsl) in text/docbook-xsl ;; (/usr/share/doc/docbook-xsl/doc/fo/passivetex.extensions.html) in doc/docbook-xsl-doc-html ;; (/usr/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/params/passivetex.extensions.xml) in libs/kdelibs-data. |
| 07:17.36 | jetscreamer | i know nothing but it sounds to me like perhaps required usb modules aren't loaded |
| 07:17.42 | gg | ok dmesg saying usb device using ehci_hcd and address 5 |
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| 07:18.22 | streuner | Is ehci USB1 or 2? |
| 07:18.33 | blubberdiblub | 2, afaik |
| 07:18.53 | streuner | !ehci |
| 07:19.26 | jetscreamer | e is 2 |
| 07:19.33 | gg | sorry I dotn know what I do with that dmesg info |
| 07:19.38 | jetscreamer | o and u are 1 and 1.1 i think |
| 07:19.48 | blubberdiblub | yeah |
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| 07:19.57 | jetscreamer | ok so it sees your stick, but it doesn't know it has an fs on it |
| 07:20.14 | enouf | gg: run udevmonitor as root/sudo/su - plug/unplug - pastebin |
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| 07:21.12 | streuner | dpkg usb storage |
| 07:21.13 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. ask me about <automount> |
| 07:21.15 | jetscreamer | or it doesn't know what your stick is, just that there's something there, rather |
| 07:21.24 | enouf | gg: got fat fs on it? modprobe -a fat vfat as root |
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| 07:21.42 | enouf | jetscreamer++ |
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| 07:22.11 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 07:22.40 | enouf | yeah, the {o|e|u}hci_hcd are only host controllers |
| 07:23.23 | enouf | i bet he's got no dbus, nor hal, and perhaps not even using debian O.o |
| 07:23.47 | blubberdiblub | or no udev at all ;) |
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| 07:24.06 | gg | modprobe fat and vfat returns nothing |
| 07:24.08 | jetscreamer | i used to not have udev. i gave up. |
| 07:24.16 | enouf | (right, which is really rare - OR, built their own 1337-omg-optimize-me kernel) |
| 07:24.31 | jetscreamer | probably already loaded, you could check with lsmod or whatever |
| 07:24.37 | enouf | gg: it's not supposed to |
| 07:24.47 | enouf | gg: lsmod | grep fat to confirm |
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| 07:25.12 | enouf | gg: modprobe -a usb-storage sd_mod |
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| 07:25.29 | blubberdiblub | modprobe returning nothing usually means success |
| 07:25.30 | gg | well lsmod returned something |
| 07:25.31 | streuner | dpkg, ehci is <reply> The USB 2.0 HCD implementation is called the Enhanced Host Controller Interface (EHCI). Only EHCI can support hi-speed transfers. Most of PCI-based EHCI controllers contain other HCD implementations called 'companion host controller' to support Full Speed and Low Speed devices. |
| 07:25.31 | dpkg | okay, streuner |
| 07:26.31 | ArtVandalae | Hi, is there a way to create a "directory" that transparently acts as a directory containing the contents of two (or more) other directories. e.g. /home/share/photos shows the contents of: /home/share/photos1 and /home/share/photos2? |
| 07:26.45 | enouf | streuner: add - ohci is 2.0 as well, or somesuch ;-) |
| 07:26.47 | jetscreamer | modprobe returning nothing usually means it's already loaded, for me. |
| 07:27.02 | enouf | uhci is 1 |
| 07:27.05 | enouf | er 1.1 |
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| 07:27.16 | gg | http://pastebin.com/m49ce89da thats from udevmonitor |
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| 07:28.29 | enouf | jetscreamer: try it with a module not loaded, like maybe iso9660 or udf, or any FS one you're not usually using |
| 07:28.33 | blubberdiblub | ArtVandalae: you might want to look at unionfs. and afairc, there are some more such transparent filesystems doing things like that |
| 07:28.59 | daya | how do I correct alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection refused |
| 07:29.15 | daya | when I run alsa mixer it gives this error, |
| 07:29.30 | enouf | daya: are you in the audio and cdrom groups? |
| 07:29.40 | enouf | daya: 'groups' says? |
| 07:30.02 | daya | enouf, yes, daya disk lp dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev games users pulse pulse-access pulse-rt |
| 07:30.15 | enouf | ok, whoa - but ok |
| 07:30.29 | daya | enouf, I am trying to use pulse over alsa, |
| 07:30.47 | enouf | now, lsof | egrep 'esd|artsd' and kill them - .. oh |
| 07:30.49 | daya | enouf, But it is giving this message, |
| 07:31.29 | enouf | daya: well, as test see if it works as root - but i suspect your device(or alsa) is not selected in your app |
| 07:31.41 | jetscreamer | try apt-get install alsa-base |
| 07:31.49 | enouf | (or some other DE or app is strangling it) |
| 07:31.56 | jetscreamer | that, or it was the snd_something not being loaded |
| 07:31.59 | daya | enouf, When I select xmms to use alsa, it crashed |
| 07:32.01 | jetscreamer | !alsabork |
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| 07:32.02 | friendlysys | anyone know an alternative to nc_ftp client, for recursive directories file uploading? the other server does not have sftp nor ssh access =( |
| 07:32.07 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 07:32.10 | gg | Ok so I ran all those commands, what do I need to do to use my usb stick? |
| 07:32.12 | cast | ArtVandalae: not that i know of...but sometimes hardlinks can be good enough |
| 07:32.12 | enouf | daya: dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base as root - select alsa |
| 07:32.47 | enouf | daya: using kde? go into control center, and tell it under Sound area to use ALSA and not OSS |
| 07:33.06 | lowlevel | Merry Christmas guys. |
| 07:33.21 | lowlevel | night. |
| 07:33.21 | enouf | !alsacheck |
| 07:33.21 | daya | enouf,ok |
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| 07:33.40 | daya | enouf, me in gnome, but still not working, |
| 07:34.19 | enouf | daya: if you used kmix prior also untick all those 5-6 settings in there especially for saving and loading your settings upon session startup" |
| 07:34.26 | enouf | oh |
| 07:34.45 | jetscreamer | dpkg listkeys bork |
| 07:34.46 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'bork' by key (15): bork bork bork ;; #debian bork ;; borken ;; bork ;; testing borks ;; borked ;; #debian-bots alsa-bork ;; #debian quake4 bork ;; quake4 bork ;; x7atibork ;; _default bork ;; #debian-bots quake4 bork ;; _default borked ;; _default alsa-bork ;; #debian alsa-bork. |
| 07:34.48 | cahoot | daya: does speaker-test work? |
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| 07:34.57 | jetscreamer | !alsa-bork |
| 07:35.07 | enouf | as root lsof | egrep 'esd|artsd' and kill them ;-) .. but jetscreamer might be onto something, you might need more alsa packages |
| 07:35.18 | daya | cahoot, yes, It gets works with oss |
| 07:35.22 | jetscreamer | modules or the alsa-base |
| 07:35.26 | cahoot | with oss? |
| 07:35.32 | jetscreamer | snd_oss_somehting |
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| 07:35.40 | enouf | gg: checked dmesg again? |
| 07:35.44 | jetscreamer | cept i think it wa another |
| 07:36.00 | cahoot | daya: you did run the app 'speaker-test'? |
| 07:36.24 | jetscreamer | ~alsa-bork |
| 07:36.37 | jetscreamer | no idea |
| 07:36.58 | daya | cahoot, o, sorry , speaker-test *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused |
| 07:36.58 | daya | Playback open error: -111,Connection refused |
| 07:37.14 | enouf | gg: you modprobed usb_storage? and sd_mod? |
| 07:37.29 | jetscreamer | i tried that pulse thing |
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| 07:37.40 | enouf | jetscreamer: snd_mixer_oss and snd_pcm_oss |
| 07:37.42 | gg | http://pastebin.com/m4cda740d <-- this is what i got |
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| 07:37.49 | jetscreamer | when it first came into sources... i was lucky to get rid of it |
| 07:38.04 | cahoot | daya: if you close pulseaudio - sound is ok? |
| 07:38.10 | enouf | the former pulls in the latter (depends) |
| 07:38.17 | Guerin | !connection refused |
| 07:38.17 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running on the specified ip address at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 07:38.19 | XoX | is /etc/modutils deprecated? |
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| 07:40.07 | enouf | gg: i've seen that before (usb3/3-8/3-8:1.0/usbdev3.9_ep83) just can't put my finger on direct cause - what's output from "lsmod | egrep 'sc|sd|sr|hcd|us" |
| 07:40.54 | daya | cahoot,how to kill pulseaudio, ps aux doesn't show it, |
| 07:41.31 | gg | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m81ed21f |
| 07:41.48 | cahoot | daya: no script in /etc/init.d ? |
| 07:42.06 | blubberdiblub | !modutils |
| 07:42.06 | dpkg | somebody said modutils was see <modutils-fix> if you have a hopelessly outdated version that was bugged back in august 2000 |
| 07:42.18 | blubberdiblub | !module-init-tools |
| 07:42.19 | enouf | XoX: does man modprobe.modutils say anything about it, what about changelogs |
| 07:42.19 | dpkg | hmm... module-init-tools is needed when using a 2.6.x series kernel instead of modconf |
| 07:42.28 | jetscreamer | so why is his output listed in a different order than mine... mindbending |
| 07:42.47 | jetscreamer | that isn't right |
| 07:42.55 | daya | cahoot, ye i stop, it,but same error, |
| 07:43.05 | jetscreamer | modconf doesn't do the same thing as module-init-tools exactly |
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| 07:43.22 | enouf | gg: ps aux | grep udevd and just tell me if it returns udevd and grep udevd |
| 07:43.24 | jetscreamer | modconf is just a front end to modprobe eh? |
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| 07:43.53 | cahoot | daya: same error? I e referring to pulsaudion? |
| 07:44.06 | blubberdiblub | jetscreamer: i guess you're right ... i don't use modconf at all ... |
| 07:44.19 | enouf | gg: dpkg -l hal dbus | tail -2 says? |
| 07:44.27 | cahoot | daya: like: speaker-test *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect:.... ? |
| 07:44.41 | jetscreamer | it's not even installed by default anymore.. modconf i mean |
| 07:45.13 | daya | cahoot, yes, Playback open error: -111,Connection refused |
| 07:45.14 | blubberdiblub | jetscreamer: well, i guess it's just an error in the factoid. probably it meant modutils there instead of modconf |
| 07:45.14 | daya | *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused |
| 07:45.26 | gg | enouf: ps aux returns what you said it will return, dpkg -l hal dbus returns those 2 lines with description |
| 07:45.45 | cahoot | daya: looks to me you didn't really finish off pulsaudio then |
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| 07:45.51 | daya | cahoot, I think some pkgs may be missing from my system |
| 07:46.04 | jetscreamer | looks to me like it's trying to connect to pulseaudio, but it's not running |
| 07:46.04 | enouf | gg: i need to see those 2 lines ;-) do they both begin with ii ? |
| 07:46.36 | gg | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m6ba7d088 |
| 07:46.53 | enouf | what about man asoundconf ? |
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| 07:47.57 | alex_ | why does every install on debian have to turn into a 1 hour project? |
| 07:47.58 | enouf | gg: all looks good - still no /dev node being made - darn, weird, is that a kingston usb flash stick? |
| 07:48.12 | daya | cahoot, http://pastebin.org/12813, the pkgs I have about alsa, and pulse |
| 07:48.27 | gg | well no its actually a mp3 player heh |
| 07:48.51 | enouf | omg - what type gg ? |
| 07:48.53 | jetscreamer | gee |
| 07:48.57 | cahoot | daya: did sound work before you installed pulseaudio? |
| 07:49.15 | jetscreamer | some players have their own kernel modules |
| 07:49.15 | gg | Samsung YP-U3 |
| 07:49.17 | jetscreamer | iirs |
| 07:49.19 | jetscreamer | c |
| 07:49.39 | enouf | daya: pastebin output of dpkg -l \*alsa* | grep ^.i |
| 07:49.45 | alex_ | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/357#install_php why do I need to do so much work to install lamp? |
| 07:49.51 | gg | I thought I could just mount it like any usb drive :-\ |
| 07:50.25 | enouf | gg: run as root update-usbids and update-pciids |
| 07:50.27 | jetscreamer | i'm not sure |
| 07:50.37 | cahoot | alex_: you really expect an answer to that? |
| 07:50.52 | jetscreamer | !lamp |
| 07:50.53 | dpkg | methinks lamp is Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python} or maybe Linux Animation and Movie Player, at http://pauillac.inria.fr/lamp/ |
| 07:50.59 | enouf | gg: i don;t know - google for info about that make/nodel +linux +module |
| 07:51.13 | alex_ | bleh it won't even install individual modules properly. |
| 07:51.21 | alex_ | i have to muck with so many configuration files |
| 07:51.23 | daya | enouf, ye It have worked |
| 07:51.28 | enouf | gg: might be some crap proprietary FS where you need their driver |
| 07:51.30 | alex_ | i have to CODE the installation |
| 07:51.34 | gg | hmm ok |
| 07:51.42 | daya | enouf, cahoot http://pastebin.org/12814 |
| 07:51.48 | alex_ | i thought debian's apt-get was supposed to fix this. |
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| 07:51.56 | enouf | daya: what have worked? |
| 07:52.00 | enouf | sound prior? |
| 07:52.01 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/linux?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=Samsung+YP-U3&btnG=Search |
| 07:52.06 | dasunt | Does anyone who has etch and fvwm installed want to test out a potential fvwm crash bug? |
| 07:52.25 | alex_ | and it's a Very specific installation procedure.. some of the files mentioned in that article don't even exist on newer stable versions of apache etc. |
| 07:52.29 | daya | enouf, sound, the alsamixer |
| 07:52.30 | dasunt | Visiting http://te.wikipedia.org crashes me under debian etch/fvwm2. |
| 07:52.42 | dasunt | It looks like if its in the window title, that's what causes it. |
| 07:52.47 | jetscreamer | ..until you realize you can't see it as a regular USB stick, and you can't just use a file manager (or cp) to upload files to it, because it's bloody MTP-based (see Experiences with Samsung YP-U3), and you need Gnomad2 under Linux (see Gnomad2, a good project with a crappy site) in order to use it! |
| 07:52.51 | dasunt | Since if I change webbrowsers, I still get an X crash. |
| 07:52.57 | streuner | dasunt: there arent many people who has fvwm installed, the only man i know is "Manoj" |
| 07:53.04 | dasunt | But if I change WMs, it doesn't. |
| 07:53.05 | enouf | daya: install the alsa-oss pkg perhaps |
| 07:53.10 | dasunt | streuner: I'll wait for him then, thanks. |
| 07:53.13 | jeremiahzg | fvwm :D:D |
| 07:53.38 | streuner | dasunt: do you know "Manoj"? |
| 07:53.47 | dasunt | streuner: No. Should I? |
| 07:54.04 | streuner | sure, if you running Debian, you should know him :-) |
| 07:54.10 | enouf | jetscreamer: wow - can you factoid that puppy? |
| 07:54.29 | enouf | wtf is MTP? |
| 07:54.41 | dasunt | I suppose I could try the debian mailing list as well. |
| 07:54.42 | enouf | nm - likely some marketing crap word |
| 07:54.50 | jetscreamer | dpkg Samsung YP-U3 is <reply>http://www.google.com/linux?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=Samsung+YP-U3&btnG=Search |
| 07:54.51 | dpkg | okay, jetscreamer |
| 07:55.02 | jetscreamer | i dunno |
| 07:55.06 | streuner | dasunt: good idea, you reach more people with ML's... |
| 07:55.11 | enouf | hrm - maybe many more mp3s also use it O.o |
| 07:55.16 | enouf | ugh |
| 07:55.28 | enouf | crap assed (gadgets) hardware |
| 07:55.53 | enouf | jetscreamer: good choice for factoid name ;_) |
| 07:56.20 | jetscreamer | i was just thinking maybe just yp-u3 might have been better |
| 07:56.25 | daya | enouf, It even doesn't solve the alsamixer by installing alsa-oss |
| 07:56.34 | enouf | jetscreamer: how about samsung mp3 |
| 07:56.35 | alex_ | cahoot, why is it that that every other thing i want to install thus far has required me to go into individual files and change what is there? Why do i have to CODE my installation? Happened for nvidia video card drivers(64 bit), adobe flash (64 bit), and now even the open source stuff like apache, php, phpMyAdmin, smarty and others |
| 07:56.55 | alex_ | is debian that incompatible with everything? |
| 07:57.04 | streuner | heh |
| 07:57.06 | enouf | daya: well, what modules are loaded? lsmod | grep snd - pastebing |
| 07:57.14 | jetscreamer | crackers? |
| 07:57.19 | enouf | (or did we do this already) |
| 07:57.30 | Guerin | !MTP is Media Transfer Protocol or Microsoft Tricking People - into using their shitty protocol which is far worse than USB Mass Storage and is proprietary to boot |
| 07:57.30 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 07:57.37 | alex_ | hard time .. |
| 07:57.43 | alex_ | it's making me homicidal actually |
| 07:57.54 | enouf | Guerin++ |
| 07:57.57 | gg | ok so I guess this sucks then |
| 07:57.58 | alex_ | all the documentation doesn't apply . |
| 07:58.01 | Guerin | alex_: don't blame a distro for your stupidity |
| 07:58.11 | jetscreamer | i gave away the only 64bit i've ever owned |
| 07:58.26 | Guerin | alex_: boo hoo, you have to edit config files. Anyone would thing you're actually trying to run a server. |
| 07:58.30 | daya | enouf, http://pastebin.org/12816 |
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| 07:58.45 | alex_ | GUERIN, I'm TRYING TO INSTALL SOMETHING. |
| 07:58.49 | jetscreamer | he thinks he has to vcompile it guerin.. i think |
| 07:58.58 | jetscreamer | -v |
| 07:58.59 | alex_ | it's not even up and running yet |
| 07:59.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | alex_, i still havent seen you ask a question. just whine |
| 07:59.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | er. .. "a support question" |
| 07:59.24 | jetscreamer | would you like another glass? |
| 07:59.30 | dasunt | Thaks guys. |
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| 07:59.51 | Guerin | alex_: nvidia drivers aren't in debian - not our problem. Complain to nvidia. Flash is not our problem - complain to macdobedia. I have apache, mysql, php and phpmyadmin installed on my webserver; worked fine. What's your malfunction? |
| 08:00.01 | enouf | daya: only other thing is dpkg -L <pulse-audio> (actua; pkg name) and find he docs for it, see alsa-project.org. look into a configured ~/.asoundrc file, "man asoundconf" |
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| 08:00.29 | alex_ | Guerin, the documentation wastes more than a few hours of my time |
| 08:00.33 | jetscreamer | nuke it from orbit |
| 08:00.36 | alex_ | trying to read all the sh it out there |
| 08:00.41 | enouf | daya: your modules all seem loaded - maybe gconf? tell it alsa? not oss? .. does pulse use OSS? lol |
| 08:00.44 | alex_ | that doesn't work |
| 08:00.50 | Vasistha | where shall I look for guidance on using initramfs-tools, or creating an initrd with cpio + gzip ? |
| 08:00.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | alex_, ask a fucking question |
| 08:00.56 | jetscreamer | no i mean the pulseaudio |
| 08:01.18 | Guerin | alex_: why are you complainaing to us? |
| 08:01.19 | daya | enouf, I am trying to use pulse to use alsa, |
| 08:01.25 | alex_ | where can i find reliable documentation on all the newest stable modules and their installs? |
| 08:01.26 | enouf | Vasistha: man mkinitramfs |
| 08:01.27 | alex_ | for lamp |
| 08:01.32 | alex_ | for etch |
| 08:01.41 | Guerin | besides, apache is among the best-documented programs in the history of thew world, free or otherwise. |
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| 08:01.42 | enouf | Vasistha: dpkg -L initramfs-tools |
| 08:01.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | 'modules'? |
| 08:02.04 | alex_ | whatever, i'm just trying to install lamp |
| 08:02.04 | Guerin | alex_: aptiotude install apache mysql php5; done. |
| 08:02.15 | jetscreamer | spell it right though |
| 08:02.19 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 08:02.19 | Guerin | yeah |
| 08:02.35 | Vasistha | enouf: thanks, though ... I'm really looking for more of a tutorial. Man pages are really more like guides for people who already have a basic understanding of how to use the tools :P |
| 08:02.37 | alex_ | all the individual components are done. i need them to work together. |
| 08:02.40 | enouf | Vasistha: oh, and kernel /Ddocumentation/early-userspace, and a few others with init in their name |
| 08:02.49 | alex_ | apache2 is installed, mysql 5 |
| 08:02.51 | alex_ | and php5 |
| 08:02.53 | alex_ | are all installed. |
| 08:03.15 | jetscreamer | you have to edit the phpconfig iirc |
| 08:03.19 | enouf | Vasistha: become a kernel developer O.o |
| 08:03.22 | jetscreamer | or you get some msg |
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| 08:03.30 | Guerin | alex_: so configure your fucking webserver. If you don't know how, and aren't prepared to learn, you have no business running one. Hire someone competent to do it for you, so you can go on being the ideas man, or whatever the fuck it is you think you're cut out for. |
| 08:03.50 | Guerin | apache is VERY well-documented, and learning it is a valuable exercise |
| 08:04.07 | jetscreamer | i can sell you some webspace if you like... |
| 08:04.16 | Vasistha | enouf: heh ... all I need to do is make sure /dev/sda gets registered before it attempts to mount the root fs ... but even if I try to make a duplicate of the default initrd, my duplicate crashes before it gets to the critical point :| |
| 08:04.57 | jetscreamer | that looks like a workaround for multiple ide controllers to me, Vasistha .. is it? |
| 08:05.13 | alex_ | Guerin. How do i learn? By googling for HOURS AND HOURS only to rift through outdated/incorrect/inapplicable documentation ? |
| 08:05.14 | Vasistha | jetscreamer: more like ... booting debian from a usb flash drive |
| 08:05.40 | jetscreamer | arent there docs on that? |
| 08:05.40 | alex_ | i can f uc king read |
| 08:05.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | alex_, http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=lamp+on+debian+etch&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 08:05.50 | blubberdiblub | alex_: just use the documentation that apache comes with |
| 08:05.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | how hard can it fucking be? |
| 08:06.33 | Guerin | alex_: while debian's apache2 config is a little non-standard, it conforms to the same spec as stock apache - it just makes extensive use of includes and such. Learn the doc format, learn a few additional tricks, and you're there. |
| 08:06.44 | Vasistha | jetscreamer: and, whereas such a mis-ordering is usually dealt with by the kernel simply "waiting" for the root file system to appear, in my case it's an encrypted lvm -- and the crypto and lvm stuff fails because it is done too early, and does *not* wait for the device to appear. |
| 08:06.46 | Guerin | it's the first bit, not the second bit, which takes time |
| 08:07.13 | Guerin | alex_: and don't bother munging swear words. We don't fucking bother, nor should you. |
| 08:07.14 | enouf | Vasistha: oh, and /usr/share/initramfs-tools and read /etc/initramfs-tools and man update-initramfs - that's all i got for ya kiddo without specifics, making a kernel? use make-kpkg , use the --initrd option |
| 08:07.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | also the bot in #apache has a good link ( !default layout iirc) to explain the differences |
| 08:07.52 | jetscreamer | enouf: see above.. encrypted lvm usb debian |
| 08:08.03 | enouf | Vasistha: registered? - you should make sure support for your disk controllers and FS types are in it, not to mention other stuffs |
| 08:08.10 | enouf | ugh |
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| 08:09.04 | daya | enouf, cahoot as soon as I remove /etc/asound.conf alsamixer speaker-test work |
| 08:09.10 | Vasistha | enouf: they are supported -- it's just that udev backgrounds itself and discovers things while the boot process is going on, and the drive is not being registered early enough -- lvm and crypto are looking for it before udev has made it available in /dev |
| 08:09.13 | daya | enouf, cahoot any idea about asound.conf file |
| 08:09.28 | enouf | Vasistha: are you "PaulTT"? ;-) |
| 08:09.52 | Vasistha | Vasistha: no, I am Vasistha, I've been hanging around here intermittently for a year and a half, and haven't used any other handle :) |
| 08:10.05 | enouf | Vasistha: you can tell it to pause, with a flag/option iirc |
| 08:10.15 | enouf | Vasistha: i forget offhand what it is, darnnit |
| 08:10.54 | enouf | maybe even probeusb in kernel line see the init file in your initrd |
| 08:11.01 | daya | enouf, http://pastebin.org/12817 |
| 08:11.11 | Vasistha | enouf: well ... what I did is just added a little sleep command into '/init' in the initrd ... but I guess I am doing something wrong generating the initrd, because although grub can testload it, the thing crashes out. |
| 08:11.16 | daya | enouf,my asound.conf |
| 08:11.17 | enouf | daya: heh, ok |
| 08:11.34 | enouf | crashes how? exactly? |
| 08:11.44 | Vasistha | enouf: oh, that's not a bad idea ... will probeusb in the kernel line make udev look for it sooner? |
| 08:11.52 | daya | enouf, But I want to have pulseaudio, since it only works over the network |
| 08:11.56 | enouf | and let's see this "sleep" command ;-) |
| 08:11.57 | daya | enouf, for LTSP 5.0 in clinet |
| 08:12.05 | daya | client |
| 08:12.05 | enouf | Vasistha: i hope so ;-) |
| 08:12.11 | Vasistha | enouf: while ! [ -b /dev/sda5 ]; do sleep 1; done |
| 08:12.34 | enouf | hrm... |
| 08:12.43 | Vasistha | enouf: I also hang out in #bash ;) |
| 08:12.50 | enouf | daya: now i'm relly lost , seen mpd? |
| 08:13.00 | enouf | Vasistha: bastage! :-p |
| 08:13.37 | daya | enouf, :) :D |
| 08:13.45 | Vasistha | enouf: I would love to use the initramfs tools to create the initrd, but ... I just have no idea how to use them to pick up my custom '/init' ! I used cpio and gzip to create my own initrd manually, but the thing doesn't work. |
| 08:13.48 | daya | enouf, mpd ? |
| 08:14.03 | enouf | daya: er, maybe make an ~/.asoundrc file http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc (man asoundconf too) |
| 08:14.12 | enouf | daya: yes, music player daemon |
| 08:14.25 | enouf | daya: see linuxsound.org |
| 08:14.35 | enouf | network audio section |
| 08:14.53 | daya | enouf, ok thanks for your support and help |
| 08:14.57 | enouf | !doesn't work |
| 08:14.57 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 08:15.00 | enouf | :-) |
| 08:15.51 | enouf | Vasistha: your custom init, should be the only thing in your initrd that's named 'init' in the top level dir |
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| 08:16.52 | Vasistha | enouf: well, I mean, I tried rolling an initrd without even making any changes, and that one failed, too. It comes up with some error about VFS something-or-other ... the main point here is that I am doing something wrong in creating the initrd. I would love to use initramfs-tools, but I haven't been able to find any documentation which gives me a clue as to how to do it |
| 08:17.08 | enouf | rootdelay=*) ROOTDELAY="${x#rootdelay=}" case ${ROOTDELAY} in *[![:digit:].]*) ROOTDELAY= seen that section in there? |
| 08:17.27 | Vasistha | wow, that sounds really useful! |
| 08:17.43 | enouf | Vasistha: that's in init .. see the header too |
| 08:18.01 | enouf | export ROOTDELAY= |
| 08:18.09 | jetscreamer | /etc/initramfs-tools |
| 08:19.09 | jetscreamer | the manpage is ok iirc |
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| 08:20.30 | enouf | Vasistha: i understand, i've taken them apart and studied them, but haven't yet needed to reroll a working one of my own, if you get you cpio and gz basics down, should be cake = now note, dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) automatically update the initrd, but in what (or how many) respects, i'm not cetain |
| 08:21.01 | enouf | yeah manpage is straightforward, but .. well |
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| 08:21.07 | jetscreamer | update-initramfs -u or something |
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| 08:22.30 | Vasistha | enouf: yeah, it still seems to me as if cpio + gzip should work -- and it passes the 'testload' ... but then it fails, and ... sheesh. Maybe I need to hang out in ##linux or join some kind of mailing list or something. Or maybe I should just play with it some more, or read more about the tools ... man, I just wish I could find a good tutorial on the internet! thanks, though. |
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| 08:22.52 | nascentmind | hi |
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| 08:23.21 | enouf | heh /etc/initramfs-tools/update-initramfs.conf - hope it says yes in there :-) |
| 08:23.39 | nascentmind | i have a acer aspire 5002 nwlmi laptop and i am not able to put off my wireless using a button? can anybody help me with this? |
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| 08:25.00 | enouf | Vasistha: i'm not even sure if lvm/raid/crypt are affecting it = have you seen http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/179 and http://feraga.com/node/94 |
| 08:25.52 | enouf | Vasistha: i mean, you got your dmcrypt modules loading? again, review the files /hooks, etc in /etc/initramfs-tools |
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| 08:26.53 | iblicf | hi everybody :) , i used to cancel an 'apt-get install' process , how to stop it ? becacause it prompt me "dpkg --configure -a" when i use apt next time ... |
| 08:26.53 | Vasistha | enouf: yes, I have seen them -- although I actually just used the etch netinst CD :) But ... what looks like it is going to be easier, often is not the easiest thing :P although I'm thinking maybe I can do something with update-initramfs ... especially if I copy the semi-working one onto my main box |
| 08:27.23 | enouf | cp /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/ <-- heh |
| 08:27.52 | Vasistha | enouf: yeah, I'm pretty certain the problem is just that udev isn't producing the /dev/sda entries until after crypto and lvm attempt to use it and fail and cancel ... I even have a pastebin to prove it! http://paste.debian.net/45491 |
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| 08:30.53 | vinicius | my wget gives the "unable to get local issuer certificate" error at any https download, what's the problem? |
| 08:31.15 | enouf | well Vasistha i see in file:///usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/udev that it sources ". /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions" <--that file |
| 08:31.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | vinicius, SSL certs? |
| 08:31.23 | nascentmind | in the broadcom wireless tools there is a broken link which the installer is trying to fetch.. how can i fix the problem? |
| 08:31.38 | vinicius | Kamping_Kaiser: sure, how can I solve this? |
| 08:31.54 | lisper | vinicius: --no-check-certificate |
| 08:31.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | vinicius, --no-check-certificate |
| 08:31.59 | lisper | lol |
| 08:32.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | hehe. snap |
| 08:32.07 | Vasistha | nascentmind: create the link? |
| 08:32.08 | vinicius | lisper: Kamping_Kaiser : does not work |
| 08:32.19 | vinicius | lisper: Kamping_Kaiser : it keeps waiting for the connection forever |
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| 08:32.24 | lisper | then you are screwed |
| 08:32.28 | Vasistha | enouf: yeah, I was studying those last night and trying to figure the stuff out |
| 08:32.37 | nascentmind | Vasistha, where can i give the correct link? |
| 08:32.46 | nascentmind | i am installing ndiswrapper |
| 08:32.49 | Vasistha | nascentmind: I don't have a clue! |
| 08:32.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | vinicius, then you need to check your other parameters/config files arnt overriding it, and failling that, as #wget |
| 08:33.01 | Vasistha | nascentmind: oh, well you'll probably want to install that first |
| 08:33.21 | vinicius | Kamping_Kaiser: I can't make SSL connections on firefox as well |
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| 08:33.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | vinicius, sounds like its a proxy/server issue |
| 08:33.56 | enouf | Vasistha: hrm that error message seems to indicate no dmcrypt/dmsetup/dmraid support? (device-mapper is critical for LVM, afaik) |
| 08:34.00 | vinicius | Kamping_Kaiser: I'm not behind a proxy |
| 08:34.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | vinicius, then theres either PEBKAC or server issues |
| 08:34.42 | Vasistha | enouf: you mean, line 35. Volume group "lvmdevi" not found |
| 08:34.43 | nascentmind | Vasistha, while installing i get this error. |
| 08:34.52 | vinicius | sorry, don't know what's PEBKAC |
| 08:35.19 | Vasistha | vinicius: check out acronymfinder.com |
| 08:35.24 | iblicf | hi everybody :) , i used to cancel an 'apt-get install' process , how to stop it ? becacause it prompt me "dpkg --configure -a" when i use apt next time ... |
| 08:35.26 | nascentmind | Vasistha, http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o ==> error 404 not found |
| 08:35.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | iblicf, try running "dpkg --configure -a" ? |
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| 08:35.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | or dpkg --configure --pending |
| 08:35.59 | Vasistha | nascentmind: I really can't help you unfortunately |
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| 08:36.12 | nascentmind | k |
| 08:36.27 | vinicius | Vasistha: cool website humn? |
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| 08:36.36 | nascentmind | Vasistha, where can i find the installation scripts in debian? |
| 08:36.37 | iblicf | Kamping_Kaiser, nope ... it will go on the install proess , i really want to cancel install that pkg .. :) |
| 08:36.43 | enouf | Vasistha: i see now, i'm mistaken slightly about that - however, seen? /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount/udev |
| 08:36.46 | Vasistha | vinicius: you said you didn't know what pebkac is, so I referred you there. |
| 08:36.53 | enouf | or even the /etc/ version |
| 08:37.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | why dont you want to install it? you can install it then remove it. |
| 08:37.29 | vinicius | Vasistha: I would put in my del.icio.us bookmarks if I could download the extension from the mozilla https addons website :p |
| 08:37.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | or `dpkg -r packagename`, then manually bring the system back to sanity |
| 08:37.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | afk. food |
| 08:38.05 | vinicius | Vasistha: but it's for all abbreviations... very cool... |
| 08:39.17 | vinicius | Kamping_Kaiser: how can I test if is a server issue or not? |
| 08:39.30 | vinicius | as I'm brazilian and don |
| 08:39.41 | vinicius | as I'm brazilian and dont know all acronym jokes... |
| 08:40.23 | enouf | Vasistha: heh, i wonder if commenting out the entire 3-4 lines in /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-bottom/udev - which says; # Stop udevd, we'll miss a few events while we run init, but we catch up for proc in /proc/[0-9]*; do [ -x $proc/exe ] || continue [ "$(readlink $proc/exe)" != /sbin/udevd ] || kill ${proc#/proc/} done |
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| 08:41.02 | enouf | Vasistha: (i'm all over the place wildly guessing though) |
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| 08:42.07 | Vasistha | enouf: yeah, I just ... wish I could boot the system so I could work on it where it has all the settings right -- because I'm concerned the thing won't work because on my present system it doesn't have lvm or crypto, so it might not be set up in the /etc files ! But I should try and find out..... |
| 08:42.59 | Vasistha | enouf: working right now on testing update-initramfs by copying the initrd from the flash drive into my current system's /boot and tweaking that one ... it seems to be one of the things update-initramfs can do, which would be perfect, if I can get it to work! |
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| 08:46.22 | enouf | Vasistha: yeah, hrm - i doubt the '/' symlink into /boot affects that especially if in grub, it's a full path like initrd /boot/initrd-XXXX.img |
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| 08:47.59 | enouf | er, you know what i mean; initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-4-686 |
| 08:48.09 | Vasistha | yeah |
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| 08:49.49 | tengulre | why i can not successfull upgarde from linux-2.6.18 to linux-2.6.23 ? I got "Begin: Waiting for root file systems." then stopped here, what's happend? |
| 08:50.16 | cahoot | hd* became sd* |
| 08:50.31 | valdyn | debian switched to libata? |
| 08:50.54 | AMDFreak | yes |
| 08:50.57 | ameyer | that only took about 8 months to do after *buntu did it |
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| 08:51.03 | bpun | hi folks |
| 08:51.12 | ameyer | and *buntu doing it was an unmitigated disaster |
| 08:51.16 | valdyn | i mean for pata devices |
| 08:51.21 | Vasistha | enouf: ...here's a perfect example of manpage frustration: man update-initramfs. If I run the update, is it going to overwrite the initrd in /boot? How is it going to update it? Is it going to pull info from my /etc/ config files? Is it going to remove things that don't exist in my /etc/ but which do exist in the (other OS's) initrd which I have here? All these questions... anyway, I don't need to gripe to you about it! |
| 08:51.28 | ameyer | erm, about 10 months to do it |
| 08:51.30 | valdyn | those drivers are probably still not mature anyway |
| 08:51.37 | valdyn | and they are not 10 months old |
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| 08:52.02 | enouf | $ grep -ir "Mounting root file system" /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ |
| 08:52.03 | enouf | /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init:log_begin_msg "Mounting root file system..." |
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| 08:52.45 | valdyn | im a little sleepy, i mean they have not been in mainline kernel for 10 month |
| 08:52.57 | Vasistha | enouf: yeah ... the question in my mind right now is, how can I get my system to create an identical one to the one I've got? Once I can get it to do that, then I can tweak it... |
| 08:53.14 | Vasistha | less theory, more action, I need to just TRY something |
| 08:53.18 | valdyn | !clone debian |
| 08:53.22 | valdyn | !debian clone |
| 08:53.22 | dpkg | One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want. Run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". you may want to ask me about <aptitude clone> |
| 08:53.23 | enouf | Vasistha: yeah, i didn't know prior you were testing like that, i suggest manually editing those files, forget about the update-* stuff |
| 08:53.48 | valdyn | Vasistha: try ^ ^ |
| 08:54.07 | Vasistha | enouf: well, that's what I did in the first place, but the cpio + gzip generated initrd fails miserably. I even tried to create one where I DIDN'T change init, and that one also failed miserably |
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| 08:54.22 | bpun | i have catted a partition and now mounted it-- i would like to restore this loop device to its system-- how to i preserve the symlinks and dev files -> 'cp -p' ? |
| 08:54.54 | valdyn | bpun: cp -a preserves everything that "cp" can preserve |
| 08:55.04 | enouf | Vasistha: i'm referring to lines 32 and 33 in your paste; $ grep -ir "Running /scripts/local-top" /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ |
| 08:55.05 | valdyn | bpun: that excludes hardlinks i think |
| 08:55.06 | enouf | /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local: [ "$quiet" != "y" ] && log_begin_msg "Running /scripts/local-top |
| 08:55.07 | bpun | valdyn, ok thanks |
| 08:55.20 | bpun | valdyn, i dont use hardlinks .. thanks for reminding me :) |
| 08:56.29 | Vasistha | valdyn: well, the real problem here is this: I used the etch netinst to install debian on a usb flash drive, with encrypted lvm. But it won't boot: http://paste.debian.net/45491 I think the problem is that udev is not creating /dev/sda until after the lvm and crypto setups have already looked for it and not found it and given up |
| 08:56.59 | valdyn | Volume group "lvmdevi" not found |
| 08:57.13 | enouf | valdyn: that cloning procedure still doesn;t grab config files (customizations) does it? i ask b/ i see it's a very similar factoid to "/msg dpkg reinstall" |
| 08:57.25 | valdyn | enouf: that's right |
| 08:57.41 | enouf | ask b/c* .. valdyn ahh .. ok - thanks |
| 08:58.01 | valdyn | enouf: if the machines are exactly identical, then you could use mondo |
| 08:58.08 | ameyer | I think you can tar an existing system and it'd mostly work if untarred on another system |
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| 08:58.16 | Vasistha | valdyn: it's undoubtedly not found because udev does not register the drive where "lvmdevi" exists until line 49 |
| 08:58.17 | valdyn | enouf: but already the boot device is not, as i understand |
| 08:58.30 | ameyer | things like X might need a little reconfiguration |
| 08:58.38 | bpun | Vasistha, didn't you say you yesterday you customized your kernel? |
| 08:58.47 | Vasistha | bpun: no. |
| 08:58.55 | valdyn | Vasistha: you need to regenerate the initrd, did you do that? |
| 08:59.12 | enouf | valdyn: righto - mondo (and maybe dirvish, backuppc, amanda, bacula) - or just rsync i suppose ;-) |
| 08:59.54 | Vasistha | valdyn: I have tried, but I'm not sure of the correct way to do it -- since it needs to have the crypto and lvm stuff in the init script. I've tried a few times and failed to make one that gets me as far as the default (which fails as shown in the pastebin) |
| 09:00.06 | enouf | (or tar and gzip each partition up too maybe) |
| 09:00.32 | valdyn | Vasistha: the simplest form is just dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-foo |
| 09:01.00 | bpun | Vasistha, huh? busybox? |
| 09:01.04 | valdyn | Vasistha: where you might have to add drivers to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules first |
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| 09:01.37 | Vasistha | valdyn: is there any way I can find out which drivers I need to add? |
| 09:01.47 | AMDFreak | but that work only when the kernel package was build with --initrd |
| 09:01.52 | bpun | Vasistha, why does it say "busybox" on your paste? |
| 09:02.16 | valdyn | Vasistha: beside detailed knowledge of how your system boots exactly, no |
| 09:02.51 | Vasistha | valdyn: are these the same type of modules that I can 'modprobe' -- thus allowing me to find a few sample ones with modprobe tab-completion? :) |
| 09:02.58 | bpun | Vasistha, (busybox is a small linux project) -- I believe you genuinely are workin on debian |
| 09:03.01 | valdyn | Vasistha: sure |
| 09:03.19 | valdyn | Vasistha: modules listed in that file are added to the initrd, thus available before the root fs is mounted |
| 09:03.29 | valdyn | Vasistha: its the drivers required to mount the root fs |
| 09:03.30 | blubberdiblub | bpun: there is busybox in debian. you are confusing stuff |
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| 09:04.14 | blubberdiblub | !info busybox |
| 09:04.16 | dpkg | busybox: (Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems), section utils, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.3-5 (sid), Packaged size: 279 kB, Installed size: 468 kB |
| 09:04.19 | valdyn | bpun: busybox is a minimal shell that debian uses to run the scripts that are in the initrd |
| 09:04.31 | valdyn | bpun: ( and that is also available as rescue shell ) |
| 09:04.47 | enouf | Vasistha: just a note, i see dmraid, and even lvm2 stuff in my initrd, but not "dmsetup" (but maybe i missed it somewhere) http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.23.1/Documentation/device-mapper/delay.txt |
| 09:05.25 | bpun | valdyn, just wanna make sure he isnt inventing words -- i believe he has the same problem as yesterday.. the thing is he was swapping the usb drive to different machines.. |
| 09:06.16 | bpun | valdyn, this drive is 4G .. and old drive.. but i don't think that's stopping anything.. |
| 09:06.20 | Vasistha | let's see, I am presently browsing the initrd that the etch netinst generated (I gunzipped and cpio'd it) and I'm seeing a few .ko files ... I guess these are probably the ones I want! aes.ko, sha256.ko, mbcache.ko, crc-ccitt.ko ... erm, whoa, there are lots and lots of these. |
| 09:06.59 | valdyn | Vasistha: probably more in that initrd than you need, but tat is not an issue |
| 09:07.33 | Vasistha | valdyn: maybe I'll just find the differences between this one and the initrd on my regular system and add those to the modules file :) |
| 09:08.17 | bpun | valdyn, do you happen to know if the kernel would ignore the partition id type for lvm? (his partition id type is incorrect and i spotted it yesterday).. |
| 09:08.34 | valdyn | bpun: no idea |
| 09:08.55 | valdyn | bpun: it does not seem to be his problem |
| 09:08.57 | blubberdiblub | bpun: as i already told you, lvm doesn't care which partition id it gets fed |
| 09:09.03 | bpun | valdyn, he can simply change it with cfdisk but he refuses to.. then maybe his lvm partition would be seen by the lvm routines.. |
| 09:09.16 | enouf | http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/lvm2/filelist - but yeah, all (2 total) modules right now are commented out in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules as valdyn has noted being important, i installed dm stuff a while ago, but never used it |
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| 09:09.26 | valdyn | !usb_storage |
| 09:09.27 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. ask me about <automount> |
| 09:09.45 | valdyn | Vasistha: are these modules dpkg lists above in the modules file? |
| 09:09.46 | Vasistha | bpun: I did change it, dude. |
| 09:09.53 | bpun | Vasistha, good :) |
| 09:10.21 | darrh00 | what is a meta-package |
| 09:10.40 | Vasistha | valdyn: heh, I'm getting so lost in all these different directories! Will look :) |
| 09:10.46 | valdyn | darrh00: a package the has no real usable files in it, only dependencies |
| 09:10.50 | bpun | valdyn, so you happen to know if any lvm volume is encrypted is always treated with losetup? |
| 09:11.02 | valdyn | darrh00: like "gnome", the package |
| 09:11.32 | valdyn | bpun: you can losetup anythoing, doesnt matter if and / or how its encrypted |
| 09:11.48 | darrh00 | valdyn:thanks,I see.I think somebody should tell this to dpkg,he doesnot know now. |
| 09:11.50 | bpun | valdyn, so i presume the debian installer did that for him.. |
| 09:11.58 | Vasistha | valdyn: the default /etc/initramfs-tools/modules doesn't contain anything. However, based on the boot log, it looks like the drive is being registered correctly as /dev/sda -- it's just happening too late. I've now got a nice list, though, of stuff that is in the crypto/lvm initrd and not in my regular one ... |
| 09:12.22 | valdyn | Vasistha: right, this is why you should add it to the modules file |
| 09:12.23 | bpun | valdyn, but that means a debian script is called with losetup upon boot? (if you happen to know?) |
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| 09:12.39 | valdyn | Vasistha: modules listed there are loaded before autodetection |
| 09:12.57 | Vasistha | valdyn: oh, that's an excellent idea! |
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| 09:13.54 | Vasistha | valdyn: it looks like, when the initrd is created, it must go through that file and add those actual modules to the directory structure of the initrd ... I guess it would have to :) |
| 09:14.07 | enouf | i guess "dm-mod" is the one responsible for device-mapper (now lvm1 and lvm2 might be diff???) |
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| 09:16.09 | valdyn | Vasistha: your / is crypted or lvmdevi is crypted? |
| 09:16.29 | valdyn | Vasistha: err, sda5 or lvmdevi or a lv , or what is? |
| 09:16.45 | bpun | valdyn, he said he used the debian installer ... i believe its the same one as yesterday |
| 09:16.48 | valdyn | "Setting up cryptographic volume sda5_crypt (based on /dev/sda5)", nevermind |
| 09:17.02 | Vasistha | valdyn: I believe lvmdevi is crypted, although I don't know for sure -- I've never done any of this before, and I just let the etch installer set it up. I "thought" it would be easier that way, heh :P |
| 09:17.25 | valdyn | Vasistha: lvmdevi is on top of sda5_crypt i suppose |
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| 09:18.24 | dimir | Morning! |
| 09:18.48 | Asmooh | Fijne kerst iedereen / Happy xmas everyone |
| 09:19.04 | bpun | Vasistha, if you can't fix it by noon today, i have a nice friend in a big red suit that can pass by today :) |
| 09:19.21 | dimir | Goede morgen. |
| 09:19.31 | Vasistha | bpun: I just got this computer! :) and the 4gb flash drive... |
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| 09:19.50 | bpun | Vasistha, it's a flash? |
| 09:20.34 | Vasistha | bpun: no: I have just been pulling your leg all this time. |
| 09:21.13 | bpun | Vasistha, i believe it's internals should be transparent -- as at least you can have a limitted boot.. |
| 09:23.12 | bpun | Vasistha, i couldn't grasp your citation-- you're saying now the lvmdevice is being seen? |
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| 09:26.49 | Vasistha | bpun: I've gotten past the point where I was stuck the other day -- all that was needed was a manipulation of the root device in grub |
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| 09:27.21 | mammoth | HELLO |
| 09:27.27 | mammoth | why i canot connect |
| 09:27.49 | enouf | Vasistha: i think as noted adding those needed usb, dm-mod, raid modules to your /etc/initramfs-tools/modules -- (or /usr/share/initramfs-tools/modules) should do it - and i wonder why my /usr/share/initramfs-tools dirs/files are more populated than /etc/initramfs-tools/* |
| 09:28.31 | Vasistha | enouf: I think /usr/share is a place for examples, whereas /etc is a place for your system's actual config |
| 09:28.47 | enouf | Vasistha: but it appears to be the opposite for me :-( |
| 09:29.03 | bpun | Vasistha, a manipulation of the root device? you mean changing the bootline? |
| 09:29.24 | Vasistha | bpun: yeah, from root (hd1,0) to toor (hd0,0) |
| 09:29.33 | enouf | Vasistha: $ grep -ir "dm-mod" /etc/initramfs-tools/ returns nothing |
| 09:29.41 | alex_ | how do i make a specific user, say "alex" be able to read write and access a file? I read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ch-files.html and man group and all it says it tells me is something about chmod ugo or something.. I just want 1 specific user (and super user) to read/write/execute |
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| 09:29.43 | enouf | $ grep -ir "dm-mod" /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ | xargs echo |
| 09:29.45 | enouf | /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/lvm:modprobe dm-mod /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/dmraid:modprobe dm-mod /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/dmraid: manual_add_modules dm-mod |
| 09:29.50 | Vasistha | enouf: you said /usr/share was more populated -- that makes sense, because it your actual system does not need everything for which there is an example |
| 09:29.54 | bpun | Vasistha, how did you figure that out? |
| 09:30.42 | cahoot | alex_: chmod 700 <file>? |
| 09:30.46 | Vasistha | bpun: blubberdiblub figured it out, it just took 5 minutes. Boot to grub, go to command line, then type 'root', enter, and see what device is presently root |
| 09:30.54 | enouf | ooo .. toor? that's BSD no? |
| 09:31.49 | enouf | root <tab>, maybe? ;-) |
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| 09:31.57 | bpun | Vasistha, that's nice grub shell-- it can also find the the kernel by using the find cmd |
| 09:32.09 | enouf | and stage1, etc |
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| 09:32.26 | bpun | Vasistha, so does the lvm partition at least get seen now? |
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| 09:33.05 | bpun | aleksanteri, they're just boot stages used by grub.. |
| 09:33.11 | enouf | aleksanteri: they work together to boot the system |
| 09:33.12 | Vasistha | bpun: there's a newer pastebin I put up maybe 10-20 minutes ago you can check out if you like. I think I've almost got this now, though. |
| 09:33.20 | aleksanteri | hm right.. |
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| 09:34.10 | suppaman | hello |
| 09:34.14 | bpun | aleksanteri, you don't need to worry more other than grub is careful not to override and destroy your data... |
| 09:34.26 | bpun | aleksanteri, its on the gnu site |
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| 09:34.32 | enouf | aleksanteri: stage1 lives in MBR - stage1.5/2 live somewhere in the 1st 63 sectors (minus the actual 1st 512 bytes) of the boot partition |
| 09:34.37 | enouf | IINM |
| 09:34.52 | alex_ | user refers to the person currently logged in? |
| 09:35.05 | aleksanteri | so.. they basically instruct grub on how to boot the box? |
| 09:35.32 | bpun | enouf, or you can be fully explanatory and explain those jump symbols to him :).. he has no clue what your saying hehehe |
| 09:35.47 | enouf | well, yeah, you can say that, i suppose - it's much more complicated than that, especially once you throw in there what the kernel is doing |
| 09:36.08 | bpun | enouf, stage 2 can also reside past the first partition |
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| 09:36.25 | Tliug | hi. can someone paste me /etc/init.d/skeleton? |
| 09:36.37 | enouf | sure - as i said - boot partition bpun |
| 09:36.40 | Tliug | i removed it accidentally.. |
| 09:37.16 | bpun | Tliug, you can restore it with rm -rf / |
| 09:37.18 | enouf | bpun: it can reside prior to the 1st partition too, in the 1st hidden 63 sectors, IINM |
| 09:37.22 | bpun | Tliug, (jk) |
| 09:37.24 | Tliug | bpun, no kiddin ;) |
| 09:37.27 | Vasistha | Tliug: why were you snooping around AS ROOT deleting files? |
| 09:37.36 | enouf | bpun: (a typical MBR installation) |
| 09:37.39 | Vasistha | Tliug: anyway, just a sec |
| 09:37.39 | Tliug | no. i was trying to cat it but did cat > |
| 09:37.47 | Tliug | so .. need to be careful with stuff |
| 09:37.59 | Vasistha | heh, yup -- and again, you shouldn't have been root ;) |
| 09:38.04 | Tliug | hehe |
| 09:38.59 | Vasistha | Tliug: http://paste.debian.net/45525 |
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| 09:39.36 | Tliug | thank you! |
| 09:40.23 | deadcat | Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached <-- what the f. whats the limit? |
| 09:40.28 | enouf | bpun: that's not even funny though (the rm thing) |
| 09:40.44 | suppaman | is it possible to use hw acceleration on debian powerpc |
| 09:41.05 | enouf | bpun: someone else might see it, and miss your followup - or not know what (j/k) means\ |
| 09:41.20 | capiira | Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays for the non Christs !!! :D |
| 09:41.32 | cahoot | and it's about as moldy a j/k can get |
| 09:41.44 | Vasistha | bpun: you should not make such suggestions, even in jest, it can get you banned from the channel |
| 09:41.55 | enouf | suppaman: asked in #debianppc ? |
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| 09:43.21 | bpun | suppaman, i know there's intel microcode that can get loaded -- but perhaps your maker of powerpc has microcode too |
| 09:43.29 | bpun | ~tell suppaman about microcode |
| 09:44.35 | enouf | hrm, are the new IntelMacs considered powerpc ? (and i still don't know what the diff is between ppc, and powerpc) |
| 09:44.35 | Vasistha | valdyn: well, it's still trying to set up the lvm before udev has detected the drive, though I added sd_mod and usb-storage to the modules. Although ... it looks like I did successfully get it to generate an initrd! So maybe all I need to do now is figure out that root-delay parameter |
| 09:44.36 | alex_ | how do i change the group and owner of a file? |
| 09:44.51 | Vasistha | enouf: no, and I don't think there is one |
| 09:44.54 | enouf | wtf am i thinking? rofl |
| 09:44.56 | bpun | alex_, chgrp and chown |
| 09:45.06 | enouf | Vasistha: ofcourse not, it's x86 arch |
| 09:45.31 | bpun | alex_, chown can do chgrp-> chown foouser:foogroup <smfile_or_directory> |
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| 09:45.45 | enouf | Vasistha: doh! is me </brainfart> though i do know in the vanilla kernels, there's big distinctions between " |
| 09:45.57 | enouf | "ppc" and "powerpc" |
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| 09:46.14 | suppaman | sorry was afk |
| 09:46.20 | Vasistha | enouf: ahh ... right ... yeah, I still don't know if I will ever own a mac :) |
| 09:46.28 | enouf | heh |
| 09:46.36 | Guerin | don't apologise for being away - apologise for coming back |
| 09:46.52 | bpun | Vasistha, powerpc's don't have to be a mac :) |
| 09:47.16 | Vasistha | how many exist and are in use, that are not? |
| 09:47.23 | Guerin | Vasistha: the utility calculation when buying a mac is `is branding more valuable than modularity?' - this makes it an easy decision |
| 09:47.23 | alex_ | ok tks. i was getting all this chmod stuff on "permissions","group","owner","user" queries in google |
| 09:47.32 | bpun | Vasistha, though it can be assumed since of the masses.. it's easier to just related to 'chipset' brands.. called architecture.. |
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| 09:47.59 | suppaman | I didn't ask in #debianppc, that's usually pretty dead |
| 09:48.49 | bpun | suppaman, dmesg will tell more on your processor type-- try to get microcode for it.. |
| 09:48.56 | suppaman | bpun: I know what microcoding is but how's that related to fglrx ? isn't the module build by m-a ? |
| 09:49.10 | bpun | suppaman, do you know what software is? |
| 09:49.25 | suppaman | bpun: PPCs don't use microcodes, that's the whole point of having a risc arch |
| 09:50.03 | valdyn | umm |
| 09:50.08 | bpun | suppaman, basically processors can have their software overrided -- the can update their microcode -- you might even be able to extract it from a mac install (just guessing) |
| 09:50.09 | suppaman | bpun: and I know what software is, simply what you said hadn't a sense to me, peraphs I'm missing something you're giving for known |
| 09:50.23 | valdyn | ppc have microcode just the same |
| 09:50.31 | suppaman | valdyn: not afaik |
| 09:50.40 | wols_ | bpun: just fyi, if a mod had seen your rm "joke" you might already have been banned |
| 09:50.49 | bpun | suppaman, well google and see around.. you asked a question and i answered it-- if you want performance |
| 09:50.52 | valdyn | suppaman: the least its used for is to fix bugs |
| 09:51.16 | wols_ | suppaman: ppc is risc in name and commandset. doesn't mean in actual hardware anymore |
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| 09:51.42 | bpun | wols_, i'm not being sarcastic -- at least i hope :} |
| 09:51.54 | bpun | wols_, it just makes it easier to explain |
| 09:52.06 | Guerin | no, it doesn't |
| 09:52.13 | wols_ | bpun: it doesn't mean. most unix channel making such a joke: instant ban, no matter the intent. just think about it in the future |
| 09:52.16 | bpun | well merry xmas everyone |
| 09:52.17 | suppaman | bpun: I did tho' I didn't google too much, I just wanted to know if fglrx on powerpc is available at all as I don't have any fglxr-* packages in etch repository |
| 09:52.23 | bpun | gotta open some things up.. |
| 09:52.51 | wols_ | suppaman: check ati.com or look into cotrib/non-free |
| 09:53.11 | suppaman | wols_: didn't knew that, I mean about ppc having microarch |
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| 09:53.19 | deadcat | Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached <-- what the f. whats the limit? |
| 09:53.23 | enouf | Vasistha: i have to ask, is that one of the newer KFreeBSD archs in debian? (Debian GNU/kFreeBSD (kfreebsd-gnu) since you mentioned toor, in place of root - just curious |
| 09:53.25 | Vasistha | suppaman: well, first off, fglrx (not xr) is non-free, so if you don't have non-free repos in your sources.list, you certainly won't wee them |
| 09:53.39 | wols_ | suppaman: all current x86 are "RISC" too, so as I said: it'S not meaning much anymore |
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| 09:53.43 | suppaman | Vasistha: mm right |
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| 09:53.55 | Vasistha | enouf: I made no such mention, and it is linux. 'toor' came from someone else (unless it was a weird typo?) |
| 09:54.04 | wols_ | deadcat: how many processes do you have? |
| 09:54.09 | enouf | ok - lessee .. hrm |
| 09:54.11 | Vasistha | suppaman: s/wee/see/ |
| 09:54.17 | nascentmind | how can i switch off the wlan led off my laptop? |
| 09:54.22 | suppaman | Vasistha: btw is your name from wasisdas ? |
| 09:54.24 | deadcat | wols_: X related or all of mine? |
| 09:54.26 | nascentmind | i cannot get the keys to work |
| 09:54.29 | valdyn | nascentmind: depends on the laptop |
| 09:54.30 | wols_ | !tell nascentmind about laptop |
| 09:54.37 | valdyn | nascentmind: you can try installing acpi-support |
| 09:54.39 | Vasistha | suppaman: Vasistha is a sage in the hindu texts |
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| 09:54.47 | valdyn | nascentmind: and use the fx-fx combo after that |
| 09:54.48 | deadcat | wols_: i have total of 38 only |
| 09:54.51 | wols_ | nascentmind: afaik there is no standard to do it. |
| 09:54.53 | valdyn | nascentmind: and use the fn-fx combo after that |
| 09:54.53 | enouf | Vasistha: gotcha! ;-) |
| 09:54.54 | enouf | [04:29:31] <Vasistha> bpun: yeah, from root (hd1,0) to toor (hd0,0) |
| 09:55.06 | wols_ | deadcat: now that shold be way too low for any limit |
| 09:55.14 | deadcat | wols_: i know... |
| 09:55.17 | Vasistha | enouf: indeed, typo on my part |
| 09:55.18 | deadcat | wols_: very strange. |
| 09:55.20 | enouf | Vasistha: typo is fine ;-) |
| 09:55.27 | nascentmind | valdyn, i don't have a fn-fx key but a separate button at the side for my acer. |
| 09:55.39 | valdyn | nascentmind: whatever |
| 09:55.41 | nascentmind | valdyn, i.e. for wlan led. |
| 09:55.44 | enouf | Vasistha: just needed to ask - was curious about how far along all that was coming |
| 09:56.04 | nascentmind | valdyn, is there acerhk package anywhere in debian?? |
| 09:56.13 | valdyn | nascentmind: still software controlled i guess, so you can still try the acpi-support package |
| 09:56.23 | suppaman | first url apt messaged me about microcode is non valid, 404 |
| 09:56.27 | valdyn | nascentmind: if that doesnt help, you may have to google for the acpi event and script it yourself |
| 09:56.39 | valdyn | nascentmind: or watch /var/log/acpid for the acpi event |
| 09:57.01 | nascentmind | valdyn, sheesh |
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| 09:57.56 | valdyn | nascentmind: sheesh what? taht you bought an acer notebook? that acer linux supports sucks? i dont know |
| 09:59.03 | ManuP | i installed fglrx on my system (amd64, lenny). fglrxinfo gives me good output. My screen resolutino is bad. how do i change it? in xorg.conf, i only gave ONE resolution: 1400x1050. i only get 1280x786 or sth. like that :( |
| 09:59.10 | valdyn | acpi support here only has explicit support for wlan on asus,ibm,,thinkpads,toshiba |
| 09:59.26 | nascentmind | valdyn, no because of how debian docs are. |
| 09:59.33 | suppaman | no fglrx even in contrib/non-free |
| 09:59.55 | valdyn | nascentmind: true |
| 09:59.56 | wols_ | suppaman: then all you can do is look at ati.com where there probably isn't one either and whail at them. |
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| 10:00.00 | wols_ | fat good it'll do :( |
| 10:00.05 | nascentmind | valdyn, i am spending so much time in just setting up rather than working because the docs are all over the place. |
| 10:00.05 | AMDFreak | nascentmind: i think the rfkill project should help |
| 10:00.06 | ManuP | suppaman, where do i have to ask then? |
| 10:00.06 | wols_ | suppaman: what videocard is it? |
| 10:00.37 | valdyn | nascentmind: debian is has no decent coherent documentation that covers the whole system. |
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| 10:01.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.06 | nascentmind | valdyn, earlier i had gentoo and i found the docs very good and very systematic... |
| 10:01.47 | AMDFreak | nascentmind: http://rfswitch.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 10:02.04 | devilchaos | hi folks merry christmas |
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| 10:02.20 | soni | is there a good tool(for Ubuntu Linux) to search and fix hard disks? i have video that's hanging up. :f thank you |
| 10:02.31 | valdyn | soni: wrong channel, try #ubuntu |
| 10:02.34 | suppaman | wols_: :-) |
| 10:02.37 | devilchaos | anyone here use a xbox 360? |
| 10:02.55 | devilchaos | would like to know what software to use to ftp music |
| 10:03.04 | devilchaos | if poss |
| 10:03.19 | enouf | ManuP: tried drxx yet? "/msg dpkg drxx" read whatever fglrx docs you have , and man pages specific to that |
| 10:03.33 | suppaman | wols_: I don't know what whail means but I'm not here to pretend any support :-) I'd just know how the thing works, mainly I was wondering if I could play linux tremulous on this ibook |
| 10:03.49 | wols_ | suppaman: "lspci" |
| 10:03.56 | valdyn | nascentmind: debian's modularity is a strength and also weakness. That'S how it is. |
| 10:04.07 | enouf | suppaman: lspci | grep VGA |
| 10:04.32 | Vasistha | devilchaos: do you know what debian is? |
| 10:04.36 | devilchaos | has supaman tried the oneliner? |
| 10:04.37 | suppaman | 0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C63 [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP)] (rev 01) |
| 10:04.50 | wols_ | deadcat: there is no fglrx in etch ppc |
| 10:04.57 | suppaman | devilchaos: suppaman didn't, the point is packages are missing |
| 10:04.58 | devilchaos | yes i know what debian what do you mean? |
| 10:05.19 | devilchaos | o ok |
| 10:05.19 | valdyn | that 9200 card is probably better supported by the free ati driver |
| 10:05.19 | wols_ | suppaman: fglrx will not work anyways. you will need "ati". and that one has 3D so it would be possibly I guess |
| 10:05.23 | Vasistha | devilchaos: just wondering why you're asking questions about ftp on xbox :P no offence meant, really |
| 10:05.24 | valdyn | NOT fglrx |
| 10:05.30 | suppaman | valdyn: not ? |
| 10:05.33 | suppaman | valdyn: ok |
| 10:05.37 | enouf | valdyn: i agree |
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| 10:05.48 | wols_ | suppaman: lowest card fglrx supports is 9500 |
| 10:05.56 | valdyn | suppaman: be glad, fglrx is shit |
| 10:06.00 | suppaman | valdyn: I just happen to have followed some guy's instructions then I realized it was for free driver and was trying to use fglrx instead |
| 10:06.01 | deadcat | wols_: nope.. only use the ati driver from xorg. thats what i use for my ppc ibook |
| 10:06.09 | enouf | xorg swings up to ~9550 iirc |
| 10:06.15 | suppaman | so probably I'm better stuck with "radeon" driver rather than "ati" |
| 10:06.18 | suppaman | I'll give it a try |
| 10:06.28 | valdyn | suppaman: "radeon" and "ati" are the same driver |
| 10:06.35 | devilchaos | i need to shove the stuff from my deb machine as the xbox wont pick it up from te other side |
| 10:06.36 | wols_ | radeon and ati are merged |
| 10:06.41 | suppaman | http://www.debianclan.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=38 |
| 10:06.45 | enouf | suppaman: man ati, man radeon ;-) |
| 10:06.47 | suppaman | I read this |
| 10:07.17 | suppaman | btw I'm pretty uncomfortable using my ibook keyboard but not my os x keyboard shortcuts.. |
| 10:07.23 | devilchaos | what about the vesa driver? |
| 10:07.36 | enouf | does suppaman need to select maybe "dri" and "drm" in drxx?? |
| 10:07.38 | valdyn | why would anyone use vesa for a radeon mobility 9200? |
| 10:07.40 | suppaman | are mac video card vesa at all ? |
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| 10:07.52 | devilchaos | no the vesa driver works |
| 10:08.05 | suppaman | enouf: I put dri and drm in xorg.conf options, but I don't know what drxx is |
| 10:08.11 | devilchaos | im using it just now |
| 10:08.13 | valdyn | !drxx |
| 10:08.13 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about <xmd5sum> if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 10:08.19 | valdyn | suppaman: ^^ |
| 10:08.19 | enouf | !tell suppaman -about drxx |
| 10:08.23 | suppaman | devilchaos: are you using vesa driver on a powerpc machine ? |
| 10:08.28 | enouf | ok ;-) |
| 10:08.35 | devilchaos | yes |
| 10:08.51 | devilchaos | ati radeon crossfire card |
| 10:08.54 | enouf | suppaman: and glxinfo | grep -i direct says it' |
| 10:08.59 | enouf | s working? |
| 10:09.34 | enouf | devilchaos: can you do lspci | grep VGA for us? |
| 10:09.48 | enouf | that's likely a PCIe card |
| 10:09.49 | devilchaos | is it unstable you are using or ? |
| 10:09.57 | suppaman | enouf: "Yes" |
| 10:10.03 | enouf | suppaman: ok then |
| 10:10.07 | suppaman | devilchaos: etch |
| 10:10.14 | devilchaos | vyrus001:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV530 [Radeon X1600] |
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| 10:10.28 | Zap-W | what happened to debian-boot ? |
| 10:11.06 | enouf | devilchaos: thanks - not certain at this time, but cross-fire needs direct chipset support - just a hunch its pcie - i'll see |
| 10:11.37 | wols_ | enouf: there is no agp ctrossfire.... (or SLI) |
| 10:11.37 | devilchaos | you should be able to have the fglrx drivers supaman because im on unstable |
| 10:11.42 | wols_ | and yes it needs chipset support |
| 10:11.42 | enouf | Zap is dead? |
| 10:11.51 | devilchaos | enouf:it is a pcie card |
| 10:11.55 | enouf | wols_: figures ;-) |
| 10:11.58 | wols_ | devilchaos: how often? ppp! |
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| 10:12.19 | suppaman | devilchaos: what computer is that ? |
| 10:12.20 | devilchaos | wols_: what do you mean how often? |
| 10:12.54 | devilchaos | i686 |
| 10:13.12 | devilchaos | amd 64 2ghz |
| 10:14.05 | enouf | wols_: hadn't he told us "cross-fire" though, and lspci plain output doesn;t mention either that, nor pcie, i would have to look up that version of card - but yeah, duh, SLI ;-) |
| 10:14.07 | suppaman | devilchaos: so how's that related to what I said before ? |
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| 10:14.35 | ManuP | enouf, if interessted: in fglrx 7.12 it is a known bug. and i am the lucky one who gets all the bugs :=( |
| 10:14.38 | enouf | wols_: though a full lspci would've revealed those pcie interfaces |
| 10:14.39 | Vasistha | so, how/where do I set the rootdelay parameter? If I can get that turned on, I think dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-whatever is going to give me a working initrd ! |
| 10:14.50 | suppaman | the guy wrote "Also add the radeonfb module/driver in the /etc/modules section" but I'm not able to find a radeonfb kernel module |
| 10:14.54 | enouf | ManuP: ugh ugh and ugh |
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| 10:15.25 | Vasistha | suppaman: modprobe radeon<tab><tab> does not show it? |
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| 10:15.46 | suppaman | nope |
| 10:15.59 | suppaman | but there's a "radeon" module |
| 10:16.16 | enouf | ManuP: but atleast you found out - and also - have a look see in the /Documentation/X86_64/bootparam doc(s) concerning MMIO perhaps - if you feel adventurous ;-) |
| 10:16.18 | suppaman | that's obviously lacking the frambuffer from its name |
| 10:16.19 | valdyn | suppaman: those are different things |
| 10:16.32 | valdyn | suppaman: you dont need radeonfb for X |
| 10:16.37 | suppaman | ok |
| 10:16.42 | suppaman | so I'm gonna reboot |
| 10:16.51 | suppaman | or better just kill xdm |
| 10:16.53 | valdyn | suppaman: you need radeonfb just to have a usable console when you have X running at the same time |
| 10:17.02 | valdyn | suppaman: on some hardware |
| 10:17.30 | suppaman | valdyn: well that'd be a good feat but if I can play tremulous that'd be the big deal |
| 10:17.49 | valdyn | suppaman: that'S an X app so unrelated to radeonfb anyway |
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| 10:18.06 | suppaman | valdyn: but the steps I followed recommended it |
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| 10:18.07 | ManuP | enouf, when i set up my system with netinstall cd, i got crazy because the installer couldnt load busybox. i checked cd, redownloaded it and it still didnt work. then i found out, that it is a bug in exact that daily snapshot *grr* so, after several hours i found out. |
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| 10:19.50 | enouf | ManuP: gahhhh .. |
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| 10:21.16 | enouf | it's /x86_64/boot-options.txt anyway, and doesn;t really refer to "mtrr" (as i thought - and mistakenly said "mmio" before) |
| 10:21.21 | enouf | ManuP: ^^^^ |
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| 10:21.27 | suppaman | lol |
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| 10:21.34 | suppaman | now I've got no more direct rendering |
| 10:22.45 | enouf | Vasistha: that ROOTDELAY= i showed you way before is in the /init file (and referred to from elsewhwere in various subdirs with/udev) |
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| 10:24.54 | AMDFreak | suppaman: libgl1-mesa-dri installed on your system? |
| 10:25.05 | suppaman | yes |
| 10:25.10 | suppaman | I installed just a few min ago |
| 10:25.13 | suppaman | (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] Could not bind |
| 10:25.13 | suppaman | (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI. |
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| 10:25.38 | Vasistha | enouf: yeah ... but I don't know how to make changes to the init file, unfortunately; in all likelihood, I need to change something in /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts ... but I don't know how/where to specify that delay. |
| 10:25.44 | enouf | suppaman: what dd you change? |
| 10:25.46 | enouf | did* |
| 10:25.58 | hell | hello. I'm trying install debian on sparc and get "illegial instruction": http://pastebin.ca/831764 |
| 10:26.02 | AMDFreak | suppaman: modprobe -r agpgard |
| 10:26.13 | enouf | Vasistha: see the header part of that file? you said you hang out in #bash ;-) |
| 10:26.46 | enouf | # Export relevant variables export break= export init=/sbin/init export quiet=n export readonly=y export rootmnt=/root export debug= export ROOTDELAY= |
| 10:27.03 | Vasistha | enouf: oh, I did export ROOTDELAY. it ... didn't work :P |
| 10:27.09 | enouf | haha |
| 10:27.17 | enouf | skipped over it eh? |
| 10:27.37 | Vasistha | I guess. Like I said, I don't know the proper way to specify the thing. |
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| 10:28.31 | enouf | Vasistha: wow- hehe , do $ grep -ir rootdelay /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ |
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| 10:29.21 | enouf | Vasistha: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount/udev:# If the rootdelay parameter has been set, we wait a bit for devices |
| 10:29.43 | telmich | good moning |
| 10:29.59 | enouf | felice navidad! |
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| 10:30.37 | Vasistha | enouf: yes, it says that! so.........where to set it? shall I create an init-premount script where none exists? maybe... I'm trying different things. |
| 10:31.14 | telmich | I've the broken package `openoffice.org-style-human' which contains empty filename |
| 10:31.24 | enouf | Vasistha: hrm, i'll pastebin my output then - you sure you don't have those entries in those files? (i am on a mixed system here, lenny/sid though) |
| 10:31.36 | telmich | what's the easiest way to fix that issue? |
| 10:32.20 | telmich | the problem is that initramfs-tools is not configured and properly installed and thus no initrd is generated and thus there's no initrd for boot for the current kernel |
| 10:32.49 | enouf | Vasistha: http://pastebin.ca/831772 - if you want me to upload all the files' contents, i guess ... i will ;-) |
| 10:32.56 | telmich | apt-get -f install was the originator of that empty filename message |
| 10:33.14 | wols_ | remove the offending package. where did you get it from? |
| 10:33.51 | telmich | from apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 10:34.11 | telmich | removing it via dpkg -r does not work, because of dependencies on it |
| 10:34.11 | wols_ | what repository exactly |
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| 10:34.15 | wols_ | !tell telmich about bat |
| 10:34.33 | Vasistha | enouf: oh no, that's okay -- I have those entries. Oh, I see -- /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init -- that's what I want, huh |
| 10:35.13 | ManuP | what is the current package to install if you want compiz? (in ubuntu it is called compiz-fusion) in aptitude i have compiz or compiz-fusion-bcop...? |
| 10:35.21 | friendlysys | if i am connected dto a server via SSH, is there any way I can find out to see what type of CPU and RAM i am running on ? |
| 10:35.24 | telmich | wols_: well, it's ubuntu/gutsy, but asking here because I think there's more knowledge in here |
| 10:35.34 | enouf | ruh roh |
| 10:35.38 | AMDFreak | telmich: 1. apt-get clean 2. apt-get install --reinstall brocken-package |
| 10:35.47 | telmich | AMDFreak: ok |
| 10:35.51 | enouf | !tell telmich -about ubuntu |
| 10:36.14 | telmich | enouf: hmpf |
| 10:36.14 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.30 | enouf | friendlysys: can you install dmidecode? (for RAM), cat /proc/cpuinfo for CPU |
| 10:36.40 | wols_ | telmich: you won't get any help here. ask #ubuntu. good day |
| 10:36.45 | friendlysys | Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 1218 HE , is this a dope ass server? |
| 10:36.52 | friendlysys | i dont have root btw |
| 10:36.55 | enouf | telmich: try ##linux also then |
| 10:37.20 | friendlysys | how much ram is , 4136360 kB |
| 10:37.23 | telmich | enouf: don't think that they could be of great help, but thanks |
| 10:37.26 | enouf | dmesg. might provide some clues, though, free and such as well |
| 10:37.30 | wols_ | friendlysys: 4GB |
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| 10:38.52 | suppaman | agpgart 37212 2 drm,uninorth_agp |
| 10:38.55 | suppaman | it's loaded |
| 10:38.57 | suppaman | mm |
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| 10:39.26 | wols_ | suppaman: perms of /dev/*agp* ? |
| 10:40.31 | suppaman | crw-rw---- 1 root video 10, 175 2007-12-25 09:29 /dev/agpgart |
| 10:40.32 | enouf | man, having join/part messages turned off kinda stinks sometimes |
| 10:40.37 | suppaman | maybe you're the man |
| 10:41.01 | wols_ | suppaman: run id. is your user in group video? |
| 10:41.13 | suppaman | $ groups |
| 10:41.14 | suppaman | andrea dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev netdev powerdev |
| 10:41.19 | suppaman | it is |
| 10:41.42 | suppaman | mm you're not The Man then |
| 10:41.49 | AMDFreak | suppaman: agpgart and drm unloaded before starting X |
| 10:41.50 | enouf | macs get all the girls O.o |
| 10:41.59 | suppaman | enouf: ? |
| 10:42.06 | wols_ | enouf: macs are for girls |
| 10:42.07 | enouf | nevermind ;-) |
| 10:42.18 | suppaman | enouf: do I look as a girl ? |
| 10:42.23 | enouf | shhh |
| 10:42.39 | enouf | we won't tell (/me crosses fingers) |
| 10:42.47 | suppaman | well my chest is a bit too hairy, but if you like it this way... |
| 10:42.53 | enouf | hehe |
| 10:43.09 | enouf | a sour mash lady - that's my kinda gal ;-) |
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| 10:43.18 | suppaman | I'm from Italy so my name's a male name |
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| 10:43.51 | enouf | suppaman: and i'm an idiot .. i know - apologies |
| 10:43.57 | suppaman | AMDFreak: unloaded, why ? |
| 10:44.12 | suppaman | http://rafb.net/p/B1Hg0N47.html it seems to complain about agpgart but it's loaded |
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| 10:44.21 | suppaman | maybe I could use the strongest solution in IT, reboot |
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| 10:44.48 | enouf | suppaman: i asked earlier though what you changed? i was following other things i guess |
| 10:45.01 | suppaman | enouf: mm I basically added dbe to xorg.xonf |
| 10:45.07 | suppaman | and the AIGLRX option |
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| 10:45.18 | enouf | suppaman: i mean, last i heard glxinfo | grep -i direct said Yes |
| 10:45.26 | enouf | oh |
| 10:45.39 | suppaman | I installed libgl1-mesa-glx and -dri but they were already installed |
| 10:46.17 | enouf | suppaman: well, 1stly, you didn't know about drxx earlier, and i suppose you manually altered (you said) xorg.conf to contain "dri" and "drm" options |
| 10:46.36 | AMDFreak | suppaman: i mean if you had unloaded it, because you have only restartet X. And imho can this make trouble |
| 10:46.49 | enouf | suppaman: i wonder if your backup file(s) in /etc/X11/* might be useful |
| 10:47.20 | enouf | suppaman: see, running drxx automatically makes a backup, with a date/time appeneded |
| 10:47.28 | enouf | IINM |
| 10:48.00 | suppaman | enouf: I booted, didn't check glxinfo, serached for fglrx, found a tutorial, followed the supposedly wrong steps (opensource driver) that eventually became the right ones, came to irc, checked glxinfo and directrendering was "Yes", then I restarted gdm (so new modules in xorg.cong were loaded) and now directrendering is off, the Xorg log is in pastebin url I just pasted |
| 10:48.01 | enouf | suppaman: try telinit 1 , then telinit 2, if you haven't gone down that far yet |
| 10:48.02 | friendlysys | if there are like, a lot of vmlinuz files on the server's / , does that mean its running VPS? |
| 10:48.16 | suppaman | I saved the original xorg.conf by hand |
| 10:48.21 | suppaman | in my home dir |
| 10:48.33 | friendlysys | how can i know if im on a VPS or not |
| 10:49.36 | suppaman | brb |
| 10:49.39 | enouf | well, i thought once you saw "Yes" there's nothing more to do (atleast with Xorg free modules) .. but i'm thoroughly confused now - so ignore me ;-) |
| 10:50.14 | enouf | friendlysys: you sure they're not symlinks to /boot ? |
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| 10:50.22 | suppaman | enouf: I'll try rebootinh with new config and see it directrendering is working, if not I'll fall back to previous config |
| 10:50.27 | enouf | friendlysys: ls -l vmlinuz* |
| 10:50.52 | enouf | ok suppaman |
| 10:50.57 | suppaman | maybe this is it |
| 10:51.10 | suppaman | mm no, free driver has "radeon" driver |
| 10:51.27 | friendlysys | i get two files |
| 10:51.33 | friendlysys | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 74 2007-12-06 16:39 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.32-grsec+f6b+gr217+nfs+a32+fuse23+tg+++opt+c8+gr2b-v6.194 |
| 10:51.33 | friendlysys | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 71 2007-11-30 07:01 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.32-grsec+f6b+gr217+nfs+a32+fuse23+++686+c6+gr6b-v6.192 |
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| 10:52.09 | enouf | whoa .. yeah symlinks |
| 10:52.15 | enouf | to custom kernels |
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| 10:52.29 | wols_ | enouf: ubuntu |
| 10:52.34 | enouf | eww |
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| 10:53.04 | wols_ | a 2.4 kernel in 2007? eww indeed |
| 10:53.13 | erps | Merry x-mas or whatever it is ya'll enjoy. |
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| 10:53.24 | erps | Niceties aside. |
| 10:53.25 | friendlysys | why is there something wrong? |
| 10:53.43 | erps | Updated my server, and suddenly courier-imap has stopped working for a few user accounts. |
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| 10:54.04 | suppaman | working |
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| 10:54.20 | wols_ | erps: check the BTS when you run testing or sid first. don't just ask here |
| 10:54.34 | suppaman | I disabled all weird options in Device section |
| 10:54.35 | wols_ | erps: and running a server on testing or sid is just stupid |
| 10:55.02 | erps | wols_, local server, for testing purposes. |
| 10:55.18 | wols_ | same thing applies |
| 10:55.19 | suppaman | glxgears isn't showing fps tho' |
| 10:55.33 | wols_ | suppaman: it never does. and that's good. use glxinfo |
| 10:55.34 | enouf | suppaman: try -printfps |
| 10:55.46 | erps | wols_, and had checked BTS but not seen it. I take it it's here now and I missed it and am just being dense tonight.... |
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| 10:56.03 | enouf | (i noticed this very recently when trying - old version i have) |
| 10:56.03 | suppaman | 700fps |
| 10:56.23 | enouf | mine's like 100 rofl |
| 10:56.43 | suppaman | peak of 1500fps |
| 10:56.45 | enouf | it's not a benchmark! |
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| 10:56.58 | erps | wols_, I am tired, I want to fix this tonight, I have a 14 hour drive ahead of me in six hours. Could you please be so kind as to point this idiot [me] towards the relevant bug report and/or fix. |
| 10:56.59 | suppaman | enouf: but it'll say if acceleration is working |
| 10:57.10 | erps | wols_, and I admit I f'd up :\ |
| 10:57.14 | wols_ | erps: known problem with courier right now. mixed groups issue |
| 10:57.19 | suppaman | enouf: btw are there benchmarks ? anyway I'm getting tremulous so I don't need bench, I'll see the real thing |
| 10:57.21 | enouf | sure, no dri here, no 3d , nothing |
| 10:57.36 | enouf | i don't know |
| 10:57.52 | erps | wols_, thank you. |
| 10:58.10 | wols_ | erps: but sorry I don't know the bug # offhand |
| 10:58.30 | suppaman | is there anything specific to configure trackpad ? I'd like to disable trackpad clicks |
| 10:58.35 | suppaman | only button |
| 10:58.38 | erps | wols_, no problem.. that gives me enough to search for. Thank you, and happy whatever holiday you do or don't prctice. :) |
| 10:58.42 | wols_ | erps: your users don't have their user/groupname as first group but some rolegroup like "audio" or such and courier balks at it |
| 11:00.10 | erps | wols_, heh, it's balking at my mail only users... doh, that makes too much sense. so only way around it tonight is to dump them into my main users groups |
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| 11:06.59 | suppaman | I'm trying to access my OS X volume, but as user I can't access a few files, I'd like not to change OS X files permissions, is there a way to keep perms and access the data ? |
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| 11:10.29 | Guerin | suppaman: ask the mactards |
| 11:10.35 | Guerin | nothing to do with debian |
| 11:11.51 | erps | wols_ thank you very mage. Have a great day! :) |
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| 11:24.15 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:24.16 | dpkg | <ribnitz> but windoze does it, and if windows does it it can't be that wrong :) |
| 11:24.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | lol. dpkg has good quotes |
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| 11:24.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | er, 'bwahhahaa' :p |
| 11:25.35 | CAiRO | is there a command to put my displays into standby mode like the screensaver does after a while? |
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| 11:26.33 | liable | man xset iirc |
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| 11:29.28 | phretor | hi there |
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| 11:29.45 | DawnLight | hello |
| 11:29.57 | phretor | how do I put my laptop's CPU at the lowest performance possible? I don't want the fan to start so frequently. |
| 11:30.48 | DawnLight | never ran debian on a laptop, sorry. hoping to do that one day |
| 11:30.54 | phretor | note that my laptop is used as a print server as it is very very old |
| 11:30.56 | ManuP | hi phretor. i have the same problem/question. but no answer yet. |
| 11:31.09 | cahoot | cpufrequtils? |
| 11:31.45 | phretor | cahoot: thanks |
| 11:32.07 | phretor | cahoot: no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU |
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| 11:32.10 | ManuP | phretor, or maybe cpufreq-info and cpufreq-selector |
| 11:32.24 | cahoot | isn't all that provded by laptop-utils or such? |
| 11:32.36 | cahoot | provided |
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| 11:32.46 | DawnLight | i need some help with scsi. i know almost nothing about scsi. i've a scsi adaptor, two different HDD |
| 11:32.48 | phretor | well, here the problem is that my CPU seems too old to support scaling |
| 11:33.32 | DawnLight | 's and a cable. only one gets detected. do i need to jump them? |
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| 11:38.27 | dutchfish | i am thinking of building a high end supercomputer with Debian, are there any docs or info on doing this with a couple of Tesla S870 GPU Computing Systems? Or are there better althernatives? |
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| 11:39.47 | petemc | dutchfish: not to nitpick, but wouldnt a self built machine be the low end of supercomputing? |
| 11:40.09 | dutchfish | petemc, ok, if you say so, np, but my question still stand |
| 11:40.21 | cahoot | depends on who 'self' is - no? |
| 11:40.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | !cluster |
| 11:40.24 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, cluster is at http://www.clustercompute.com Linux High-Availability Project (www.linux-ha.org) |
| 11:40.47 | dutchfish | petemc, i ment high performance |
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| 11:41.08 | petemc | dutchfish: despite what i said, i was nitpicking :) |
| 11:41.21 | friendlysys | is there a way to check what type of harddrive the server im on is using? |
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| 11:41.37 | petemc | friendlysys: dmesg, or hwinfo |
| 11:42.18 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser, i am thinking of about 20 Tetraflops |
| 11:42.30 | karmatronic | merry xmas |
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| 11:47.24 | AciD | is there anyone with a working xorg configuration for a wacom bamboo ? |
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| 11:47.34 | SuperPigs | hewwo |
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| 11:48.13 | SuperPigs | in debian distro do all the files go away after reboot in /tmp ? |
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| 11:49.03 | cahoot | in debian that seems to be the default |
| 11:49.18 | SuperPigs | k |
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| 11:52.15 | enouf | ManuP: you asked about compiz (which i know nothing about, but i do know apt ;-)) apt-cache show <pkgname> for info about any package, read the apt howto, or learn how to do it with aptitude |
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| 11:53.56 | enouf | ManuP: when i say any pkg, i mean the ones your pkg cache knows about (do; "/msg dpkg search" for more info about finding pkgs and files) , use/install locate and dlocate if you like, i do |
| 11:56.43 | ManuP | enouf, locate is great :) |
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| 11:57.10 | enouf | bah SuperPigs left - anyways, you can set how long files are kept in /tmp in /etc/default/rcS |
| 11:57.27 | enouf | ManuP: dlocate is even greater ;-) |
| 11:58.34 | enouf | phretor is dead too - i think apm is his only option then, if anything |
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| 12:01.11 | ManuP | enouf the description of dlocate sounds very useful |
| 12:01.33 | enouf | ManuP: indeed, i use it often |
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| 12:02.08 | enouf | ManuP: there's so many neat pkgs like this in debain - look at configure-debian, rcconf, etc etc |
| 12:02.45 | ManuP | enouf, i'd love to, but this is only my hobby, not my work. |
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| 12:17.08 | spx2 | hi |
| 12:17.21 | spx2 | I cant find pidgin with aptitude search pidgin |
| 12:17.28 | spx2 | I've searched my sources.list |
| 12:21.03 | dutchfish | spx2, should be in pool/main/p/pidgin/pidgin_2.2.2-1~bpo40+1_i386.deb |
| 12:21.41 | mickvdv | did you do sudo apt-get update? |
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| 12:22.20 | AMDFreak | spx2: do you use etch?? Etch didn't include pidgin, but GAIM. |
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| 12:23.16 | dutchfish | AMDFreak, its in backports then? i am running etch, and pidgin is in repo |
| 12:24.29 | wols_ | !pidgin |
| 12:24.29 | dpkg | pidgin is probably formerly <gaim>, but due to trademark issues with AOL over the acronym AIM, had its name changed to Pidgin. libgaim is now libpurple and gaim-text is now Finch. Backported packages are available for Etch, add "deb http://ftp.cyconet.org/debian etch-backports main" to your sources.list. |
| 12:24.34 | cusco | hey dudes |
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| 12:24.48 | cusco | what is the magical package that gnome needs to brouse audio cd's? |
| 12:25.10 | spx2 | AMDFreak, yes I use etch , what should I do ? |
| 12:25.17 | spx2 | AMDFreak, I want to install pidgin on a server |
| 12:25.23 | spx2 | AMDFreak, should I use sid in sources.list ? |
| 12:25.37 | spx2 | mickvdv, ofcourse I did |
| 12:26.08 | AMDFreak | spx2: add deb http://ftp.cyconet.org/debian etch-backports main to the sources.list |
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| 12:26.15 | wols_ | spx2: you certainly should not |
| 12:27.09 | spx2 | AMDFreak, cyconet ? never heard of that |
| 12:27.14 | dutchfish | cusco, i am only aware of such a tool for KDE i.e. kdemultimedia-kio-plugins |
| 12:27.35 | cusco | hmmm right... |
| 12:27.59 | nofundesktop | just when will this bug fixed?: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=452981 |
| 12:28.01 | AMDFreak | spx2: but why pidgin on a server ??? |
| 12:28.02 | dutchfish | but i am not sure it does not exist |
| 12:28.20 | wols_ | !tell nofundesktop about SIYH |
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| 12:28.59 | spx2 | AMDFreak, its a home server ... |
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| 12:29.14 | nofundesktop | wols_: so you suggest uploading my fixed debian package (with the known patch to fix the problem) to ftp-master? lol |
| 12:29.48 | wols_ | nofundesktop: no. but you run lenny or sid. deal with it and learn how to use them |
| 12:30.04 | wols_ | nofundesktop: you are expected to solve such problems on your own |
| 12:30.37 | nofundesktop | wols_: oh I solved it... but still it's annoying that this problem wasn't fixed yet in the official packages |
| 12:30.58 | wols_ | nofundesktop: which debian branch? |
| 12:31.07 | nofundesktop | huh? |
| 12:31.12 | nofundesktop | oh... testing |
| 12:31.23 | stew | nofundesktop: you have a patch that fixes that bug? |
| 12:31.26 | wols_ | nofundesktop: then why the heck do you ask such tripe? |
| 12:31.56 | nofundesktop | stew: the patch is on the freedesktop bug page |
| 12:32.01 | wols_ | stew: it's already fixxed accoridng to the bts |
| 12:32.06 | wols_ | 12/12/07 |
| 12:33.40 | stew | nofundesktop: so the question is just 'when is this fixed package moving to testing'? |
| 12:33.55 | nofundesktop | I see in unstable, the package has the patch applied |
| 12:34.09 | nofundesktop | on 22 dec |
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| 12:34.29 | stew | nofundesktop: so what exactly is the question? |
| 12:34.30 | nofundesktop | so I guess this will take a week, heh |
| 12:34.35 | AMDFreak | imho 10 Days after moving to unstable |
| 12:34.47 | master_alvaro | hi, w looking for new linux distro; anyone use debian sid? how about "dependency hell"? have debian sid problems with packeges? |
| 12:35.06 | stew | nofundesktop: a minimum of a week, possibly longer as it hasn't yet built on all arches. |
| 12:35.07 | cahoot | yes |
| 12:35.11 | nofundesktop | stew: the question is why is debian so slow at providing fixed packages when there's a known fix |
| 12:35.39 | cahoot | yes since sid is by defintion unstable master_alvaro |
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| 12:36.42 | dutchfish | master_alvaro, there is a alternative, its called testing ... |
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| 12:36.46 | master_alvaro | cahoot: is ubuntu more stable than debian sid? |
| 12:37.04 | cahoot | ubuntu is off-topic |
| 12:37.07 | stew | master_alvaro: ask #ubuntu |
| 12:37.19 | master_alvaro | dutchfish: lenny have kernel-2.6.22, i need 2.6.23 |
| 12:37.40 | wols_ | master_alvaro: install the kernel only from sid then |
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| 12:37.46 | dutchfish | master_alvaro, i compile vanilla on etch, running 2.6.24-rc6 atm, no problem |
| 12:38.28 | dutchfish | master_alvaro, 2.6.23-12 is also good atm |
| 12:38.36 | AMDFreak | master_alvaro: you can't say.... you should decide by your own point of view |
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| 12:39.06 | stew | nofundesktop: i don't know. how long from when the fix was made available did it take to make an upload? i guess the general answer to your question is "sometimes a fix isn't known immediately. sometimes the volunteers are just busy" |
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| 12:39.57 | stew | master_alvaro: you can install 2.6.23 from unstable (/msg dpkg quick lenny/sid mix), or compile it yourself (/msg dpkg kp) if you really need 2.6.23 in lenny |
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| 12:40.45 | master_alvaro | stew, so i can have 4.0 or lenny, and install few packages from sid? |
| 12:41.31 | stew | master_alvaro: you can have lenny and install a few packages in sid. you should NOT mix package from lenny or unstable with 4.0 (aka stable aka etch) |
| 12:41.46 | dutchfish | master_alvaro, in general this is not so good idee, but for a kernel i see no problems |
| 12:41.47 | stew | master_alvaro: if you need packages from unstable in 4.0, then use backports: /msg dpkg backports |
| 12:42.18 | stew | the problems with a kernel from sid in stable is that you would not be able to compile 3rd party drivers for it |
| 12:42.22 | nofundesktop | stew: how is installing a few packages from the other branch different from "mixing"? |
| 12:42.30 | stew | nofundesktop: it is not |
| 12:42.32 | dutchfish | stew, right |
| 12:43.15 | stew | nofundesktop: it is not different, i mean |
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| 12:43.33 | nofundesktop | stew: so you're saying "you can do it, but you shouldn't"? |
| 12:43.50 | AMDFreak | master_alvaro: or if nothing in backports of your needs then do it yourself and build a debian package to install |
| 12:44.01 | stew | nofundesktop: i'm saying "mixing testing and unstable is generally ok, bug mixing stable with either testing or unstable is not" |
| 12:44.08 | stew | ^bug^but |
| 12:44.16 | nofundesktop | stew: oh ok |
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| 12:45.38 | master_alvaro | i need: OOo 2.3, gnome >= 2.20, x.org 7.3 (1.4) and kernel >= 2.6.23, mono 1.2.x, gcc >= 4.2; which debian is for me? |
| 12:46.00 | stew | master_alvaro: none |
| 12:46.25 | dutchfish | not yet |
| 12:46.44 | master_alvaro | stew: so which distro i should install? gentoo? |
| 12:47.01 | stew | master_alvaro: ask ##linux |
| 12:47.02 | master_alvaro | sorry for my bad English, but it isn't my native language |
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| 12:50.24 | AMDFreak | master_alvaro: i think, you have to decide by our own..... nobody can decide for you, because we can't know about your knowledge. |
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| 13:00.37 | loca|host | hello all |
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| 13:01.15 | loca|host | where can i find the latest Etch debian installer ? i have a new server and my d-i didnt detect the hard drives ? |
| 13:01.38 | Eclipser | on debian.org? |
| 13:02.04 | dutchfish | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 13:02.56 | loca|host | is it the latest ? |
| 13:03.13 | dutchfish | if you mean latest stable, yes |
| 13:03.39 | folken | i installed libapache2-mod-php4 and enabled php4 with a2enmod php4 .. i restartet apache with force-restart. Why do I still get php scripts as downloads? |
| 13:04.05 | dutchfish | folken, did you install the php4 package itself? |
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| 13:04.55 | eckhart | hi |
| 13:05.12 | folken | dutchfish: ah, thanks that could be a problem. /me wonders why this isn't a dependency? |
| 13:05.24 | eckhart | i'm looking for a document that describes the debian package versioning system |
| 13:05.51 | folken | dutchfish: hmm that doesn't change anything.. |
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| 13:08.13 | dutchfish | folken, what does you apache2 log say? |
| 13:08.42 | AMDFreak | eckhart: look in the Maintainersguide http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
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| 13:09.27 | bjwebb | hi |
| 13:10.04 | folken | dutchfish: get 302 as expected. |
| 13:10.40 | bjwebb | it says that the fule for modules is not found |
| 13:10.50 | bjwebb | should there be a special modules makefile somehwere? |
| 13:10.54 | dutchfish | folken, that is if you didnt config ssl correctly, does apache2 work with non-ssl? |
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| 13:16.22 | dutchfish | folken, also you browser can play tricks on you, try to disable cache in browser during testing this |
| 13:16.56 | folken | dutchfish: its a spearate virtualhost i'm trying to get php working on. |
| 13:17.07 | folken | dutchfish: it seems to work correctly with phpldapadmin |
| 13:17.32 | dutchfish | folken, delete your browsers cache and try again |
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| 13:21.14 | DawnLight | hello. i have a scsi adapter installed with two hard drives. their id's are 0 and 1 and they are abstracted as sda and sdb respectively. problem is hda doesn't work. on boot it displays errors about not being able to read from it and collect any data about it and such. hdb works ok. can anyone help me debug? i don't know my way around these things |
| 13:21.48 | wols_ | now what is it? hda or sda? |
| 13:21.48 | folken | dutchfish: argh.. thanks. |
| 13:21.52 | dworkin | when i try to play enemy territory (which tries to use oss) it complains: /dev/dsp: input/output error; could not map /dev/dsp. I've installed oss-compat and alsa-oss but it made no difference. what should i do next? |
| 13:22.34 | wols_ | dworkin: you get an error message. google the exact eerror message with "enemy territory" or "quake". old and known problem |
| 13:22.48 | wols_ | the google search should give you plenty of hits what to do |
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| 13:23.05 | dworkin | wols_: i would not come here unless i tried at least ten of them |
| 13:23.17 | dutchfish | folken, this also might be handy: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/412 |
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| 13:23.32 | wols_ | dworkin: it's some echo "1" or the name of the executable into a /proc file iirc |
| 13:23.47 | wols_ | dworkin: what is the error btw? |
| 13:24.01 | folken | dutchfish: its not that i don't know how to do it.. i should have known better. :) |
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| 13:24.35 | dworkin | wols_: there used to be a small program which created a wrapper for ossbased applications. but i can't remember a name of it. some 'alsaxxxx appname' |
| 13:24.36 | dutchfish | folken, right ;) |
| 13:24.44 | DawnLight | wols_: sda and sdb, sorry |
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| 13:24.58 | wols_ | dworkin: /dev/dsp exists? |
| 13:25.12 | AMDFreak | dworkin: open a Terminal and su to root |
| 13:25.15 | folken | dutchfish: thank you again. :) |
| 13:25.16 | wols_ | dworkin: try smartmontools |
| 13:25.35 | folken | dutchfish++ |
| 13:25.36 | limaunion | The PTS for VLC shows 'Too young, only 9 of 10 days old', so does it means that tomorrow I'll find VLC automatically imported to lenny or not ? |
| 13:25.39 | wols_ | AMDFreak: that certainly won't work. if anything it's sux |
| 13:25.57 | dworkin | wols_: /dev/dsp was created when i installed alsa-oss or something like that |
| 13:26.00 | wols_ | limaunion: vlc is missing in lenny for months now |
| 13:26.06 | wols_ | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 13:26.06 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 13:26.21 | stew | limaunion: possibly |
| 13:26.26 | AMDFreak | dworkin: then you have to write this: echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss and hit Enter |
| 13:26.27 | dworkin | AMDFreak: i am root. |
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| 13:26.40 | AMDFreak | then start et as your user |
| 13:26.42 | Noboru | im back,hi guys. |
| 13:27.00 | Noboru | Same question,i cannot get the full IP by doing netstat -tnap | grep ":80 " | awk '{printf "%s\n",$5}'| sort | uniq -c |
| 13:27.15 | Noboru | or netstat -an -t tcp | grep ":80" | grep ESTABLISHED | awk '{printf "%s %s\n",$5,$6}' | sort |
| 13:27.23 | dworkin | AMDFreak: i |
| 13:27.32 | abrotman | Noboru: don't you ever sleep?! |
| 13:27.33 | cusco | what is the apt-get flag to install a package from another dist? for instance unstable |
| 13:27.35 | Noboru | i get stuff like 1 ::ffff:221.237.19.:1898 |
| 13:27.39 | dworkin | AMDFreak: im sure i tried this before and it didn't work. hmm.... |
| 13:27.46 | abrotman | cusco: man apt-get |
| 13:27.47 | wols_ | cusco: apt-get breakmydebian |
| 13:27.48 | limaunion | stew, thanks, I hope to find it, I've just switched my desktop from ubuntu and have no regrets, but I'm missing vlc. |
| 13:27.52 | dworkin | AMDFreak: this probably won't survive a restart will it? |
| 13:27.54 | Noboru | hi abrotman :( please help me,im seeing many connectiongs to my server from the same ip |
| 13:27.56 | stew | cusco: what version of debian are you running now? |
| 13:27.57 | wols_ | !tell cusco about simple sid backport |
| 13:27.58 | cusco | not breaking it |
| 13:28.03 | Noboru | 20 threads per IP |
| 13:28.05 | abrotman | Noboru: it seems like it is truncating the IP because of COLUMN limitations |
| 13:28.07 | cusco | no I don't want a whole backport |
| 13:28.13 | cusco | just one package that is not yet on testing |
| 13:28.17 | cusco | picard tagger |
| 13:28.29 | abrotman | number one? |
| 13:28.42 | cusco | just want to try out one package that will not harm my system if it doesn't work... |
| 13:28.59 | stew | cusco: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 13:29.03 | AMDFreak | dworkin: when it works, what it should.. put the line in /etc/init.d/rc.local |
| 13:29.05 | cusco | I was reading the man, but when I search for dist it only comes up dist-upgrade so I thought about asking.. ok let me search some more |
| 13:29.08 | cusco | stew: testing |
| 13:29.16 | stew | cusco: /msg dpkg quick lenny/sid mix |
| 13:29.22 | dworkin | AMDFreak: thank you. it does work |
| 13:29.43 | limaunion | wols_, I know but it was accepted to unstable in the last days so it should be included to lenny in any moment, i think. |
| 13:29.51 | Noboru | abrotman, http://pastebin.ca/831846 |
| 13:30.34 | abrotman | Noboru: that's what i said ... i think it's truncating the IP because of COLUMN restrictions |
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| 13:31.01 | Noboru | COLUMN ? sorry,i do not get it. |
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| 13:32.02 | stew | Noboru: see if "running "COLUMNS=400 netstat -pant" gives differnt output than just "netstat -pant" |
| 13:32.24 | stew | however it would be disappointing if netstat was still using COLUMNS when it is being used in a pipeline |
| 13:32.28 | abrotman | i don't think COLUMNS affects netstat |
| 13:32.35 | DawnLight | hello. i have a scsi adapter installed with two hard drives. their id's are 0 and 1 and they are abstracted as sda and sdb respectively. problem is sda doesn't work. on debian bootup it displays errors about not being able to read from it and collect any data about it and such. sdb works ok. can anyone help me debug? i don't know my way around these things |
| 13:32.38 | stew | i don't either, and it shouldn't in a pipeline |
| 13:33.11 | abrotman | i think even if you expand your xterm .. it still stays the same width |
| 13:34.12 | cusco | thanks stew |
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| 13:34.48 | Noboru | stew, ok,please wait. |
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| 13:37.55 | Noboru | hi stew ,here http://pastebin.ca/831847 |
| 13:38.41 | stew | Noboru: yes, as we suspected, the COLUMNS variable is not affecting it. |
| 13:38.44 | stew | Noboru: you should file a bug |
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| 13:39.33 | Noboru | i don't understand is, how come i use the same version of netstat but others dont have this problem ? also my another server doesn' have this thing. |
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| 13:41.32 | stew | Noboru: i have this bug |
| 13:42.06 | Noboru | really ? |
| 13:42.10 | stew | Noboru: yes |
| 13:42.21 | Noboru | so, stew ,welcome to join me :D haha |
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| 13:42.52 | stew | Noboru: is there a reason you aren't filing this bug? |
| 13:43.01 | Noboru | i mean,i wouldn't you file this bug becaues your english is fluent,so your letter will be well understood by them. |
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| 13:44.18 | stew | !dbugs 254243 |
| 13:44.21 | dpkg | #254243:I[net-tools] netstat: chops IPv6 addresses; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:33:02 UTC |
| 13:44.22 | stew | it has already been filed |
| 13:44.30 | stew | and it has a patch available |
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| 13:47.38 | Noboru | a patch ? |
| 13:47.50 | Noboru | i have never done this bug filing thing,sorry. |
| 13:48.28 | Noboru | hi dear stew, would you give me the address to download this patch,it is very important for my server. |
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| 13:48.58 | stew | Noboru: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=82;bug=254243 |
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| 13:50.08 | abrotman | damn that's an old bug .. |
| 13:52.24 | Noboru | net-tools ? shall i apt-get install net-tools or what / |
| 13:53.23 | stew | Noboru: you obviously already have net-tools installed, or else you wouldn't be able to run netstat at all |
| 13:54.00 | Noboru | hmm |
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| 13:57.16 | Noboru | which i dont understand is ,how come this bug still remains in etch release while this bug has had been posted in 2004. |
| 13:57.33 | Noboru | plus,i am so confused that how i fix it :( |
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| 13:59.38 | stew | Noboru: the bug remains becuase the patch has not yet been applied to the debian packages |
| 13:59.39 | spal | Noboru: what bug? |
| 13:59.45 | stew | spal: #254243 |
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| 14:00.06 | Noboru | stew, I see,so i will have to wait. |
| 14:00.43 | Noboru | on another my of my server runs the same version of netstat,no problem,same etch release,weird. |
| 14:01.04 | stew | Noboru: you don't have to wait, you can apply the patch yourself |
| 14:01.14 | stew | Noboru: do you know how to use patch? |
| 14:01.20 | Noboru | hi stew,i just do not know how to do it |
| 14:01.33 | Noboru | no ,sorry,i have never used this feature. |
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| 14:04.09 | stew | Noboru: get the source with 'apt-get source net-tools'. cd net-tools-1.60 ; patch --dry-run -p3 < /path/to/patch ; if that seems to succeed, then run patch again without '--dry-run'. then edit debian/changelog and change the version at the top of the file from "1.60-15ubuntu2" to "1.60-17+ipv6patch" ; then "apt-get build-dep net-tools ; aptititude install bulid-essential fakeroot; dpkg-buldpackage -rfakeroot" |
| 14:05.02 | hotgklub | http://www.hotgirlclub.net.ms check out hot girl movies |
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| 14:05.43 | stew | Noboru: or, perhaps, you could backport a ubuntu package, since it looks like this was fixed in ubuntu. |
| 14:05.58 | Noboru | stew, i would try the first methon |
| 14:06.22 | Noboru | but , what does that /path/to/patch mean ?i should just copy with it or use my own ? |
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| 14:07.06 | stew | Noboru: i mean to insert the path to the file containing the patch |
| 14:07.44 | Noboru | the file is net-tools ? |
| 14:08.03 | stew | Noboru: the file is whatever you named it when you downloaded the patch |
| 14:08.17 | Noboru | I see,Thanks a lot, let me try. |
| 14:08.40 | Noboru | by the way,would this break my system ...? |
| 14:08.47 | Noboru | i mean,in case |
| 14:08.54 | stew | Noboru: no, but it might break netstat |
| 14:09.00 | Noboru | oh ,okay. |
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| 14:09.50 | stew | Noboru: backporting the ubuntu package is probably easier. "/msg dpkg simple sid backport" but use a deb-src line for ubuntu fiesty instead of sid |
| 14:10.00 | MikeLowrey_14046 | http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9250149 bitte ma klicken |
| 14:10.10 | Noboru | stew, let me try. |
| 14:10.21 | wols_ | stew: please ban MikeLowrey_14046 |
| 14:10.33 | wols_ | it's a link to another myminicity kinda website |
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| 14:10.43 | cyzie | how do i reinstall all the package in the system in a exiting system? the reason is i want ot verify if there is any package is corrupt due to the hard disk failure / memory error. |
| 14:10.48 | wols_ | thx |
| 14:10.50 | stew | np |
| 14:11.11 | stew | cyzie: aptitude reinstall '~i' |
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| 14:11.34 | stew | cyzie: if you just want to verify, you should use debsums instead |
| 14:11.48 | cyzie | stew, what is '~i' means? |
| 14:11.55 | stew | cyzie: installed packages |
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| 14:12.25 | cyzie | alright |
| 14:12.28 | cyzie | how about debsums? |
| 14:12.47 | Noboru | stew, if i use the backport,after that, i change it back in source.1st,will it break apt ? |
| 14:12.49 | stew | cyzie: aptitude install debsums ; debsums |
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| 14:13.37 | stew | Noboru: no, you aren't going to install any packages using apt, and you aren't going to make any new binary packages available to apt, so it won't break apt. you are only adding a deb-src line, not a deb line |
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| 14:14.25 | Noboru | but i msged dpkg, he only tells me add that line,without giving much info |
| 14:14.32 | nofundesktop | how can I find files in my system which aren't managed by any installed package? |
| 14:14.38 | nofundesktop | s/in/on/ |
| 14:14.56 | stew | Noboru: what info are you looking for? |
| 14:15.19 | Noboru | the complete line i should add in source.1st in my case |
| 14:15.39 | streuner | nofundesktop: rkhunter |
| 14:16.37 | stew | Noboru: deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu fiesty main |
| 14:16.39 | nofundesktop | streuner: aha, interesting |
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| 14:17.06 | stew | streuner: rkhunter knows about dpkg? |
| 14:17.38 | streuner | no, but it should know about rk's ;-) |
| 14:18.10 | streuner | nofundesktop: usually non-Debian files (dpkg) are in /usr/local/ |
| 14:18.30 | stew | nofundesktop: you can ignore streuner he seems to not be answering your question |
| 14:18.35 | Noboru | stew, done, now i do apt-get update && apt-get build-dep net-tools && apt-get -b source net-tools ? |
| 14:18.40 | stew | Noboru: yes |
| 14:18.44 | nofundesktop | streuner: yes, but I'm looking for the non-trivial ones |
| 14:18.53 | Noboru | ok, and after that im done ? |
| 14:19.08 | streuner | nofundesktop: what are "non-trivial ones"? |
| 14:19.17 | stew | Noboru: that will build a net-tools .deb which you can install with dpkg -i |
| 14:19.29 | nofundesktop | streuner: the ones which you don't know of etc. |
| 14:19.46 | streuner | rkhunter tell you about that too |
| 14:19.48 | Noboru | Failed to fetch http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/fiesty/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found |
| 14:20.11 | streuner | scripts which aren't used in /etc/ |
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| 14:20.32 | ManuP | if i unplug the ac-adapter at my notebook, the cpufreq governor stays at Ondemand. how do i switch *automatically* to conservative or powersafe? |
| 14:20.37 | streuner | stew: what the heck are you doing? |
| 14:20.53 | ManuP | if i do it manually, the setting is resetet the next time i plug/unplug ac-adapter. |
| 14:20.58 | nofundesktop | rkhunter depends from a mail-transport-agent... bah |
| 14:21.08 | Noboru | stew, it seems some file cannot be fetched by doing apt-get update . |
| 14:21.15 | stew | Noboru: one sec |
| 14:21.18 | stew | streuner: what do you mean? |
| 14:21.19 | Noboru | thus,i cannot do the next step,okay. |
| 14:21.36 | streuner | stew: well, i see some ubuntu lines in a sources.list :-) |
| 14:21.53 | stew | Noboru: that should be feisty not fiesty |
| 14:22.37 | stew | streuner: i'm helping him backport a ubuntu package for a fix to #254243 |
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| 14:23.01 | stew | nofundesktop: something like "find /usr/bin/ -type f | while read a ; do dpkg -S $a >/dev/null 2>&1 || echo $a ; done" which will be slow |
| 14:23.23 | redduck676 | is it possible to allow only key based root login |
| 14:23.33 | redduck676 | (sshd) |
| 14:24.04 | nofundesktop | stew: lol... very slow, but yes, that's what I'm looking for |
| 14:24.41 | stew | nofundesktop: replacing dpkg -S with dlocate might be faster (if dlocate is installed) |
| 14:25.12 | stew | redduck676: yes, "man sshd_config" you need to turn off ChallengeResponseAuthentication and PasswordAuthentication |
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| 14:25.45 | f00bar80 | ihow to let |
| 14:26.02 | redduck676 | stew: woun't that turn off password authentication for all users? |
| 14:26.06 | stew | redduck676: oh but that would be system-wide. i'm not sure if you can do that for just root somehow in /root/.ssh/ |
| 14:26.46 | redduck676 | stew: isn't ~/.ssh for client configuration? |
| 14:27.02 | stew | redduck676: not exclusively |
| 14:27.20 | redduck676 | stew: ok, thanks, will play with it. |
| 14:27.26 | f00bar80 | I'm using debian sarge , how to let my eth obtain automatic IP by dhcp , isn't dhclient eth0 or dhcp3-client eth0 ? |
| 14:27.27 | stew | redduck676: you could disallow root logins from the primary sshd and start a second sshd that only allows key based auth and allows root |
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| 14:28.04 | Noboru | stew, i ve gotten net-tools_1.60-17ubuntu1_i386.deb installed,but same |
| 14:28.10 | ManuP | how do i execute a script when the ac-adapter of my notebook is unplugged? |
| 14:28.10 | Noboru | still not full IP |
| 14:28.11 | streuner | f00bar80: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 14:28.11 | dutchfish | redduck676, also look at PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only |
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| 14:28.53 | f00bar80 | streuner: what i mentioned is wrong ? |
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| 14:29.55 | streuner | f00bar80: you should upgrade to etch, well in Debian the usual way is to use ifup, ifdown (ifupdown package) and edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:30.22 | redduck676 | dutchfish: thanks |
| 14:30.27 | f00bar80 | streuner: and what about dh3client ? |
| 14:30.31 | stew | Noboru: what does "apt-cache policy net-tools" say for Installed? |
| 14:30.32 | dutchfish | redduck676, yw :) |
| 14:31.30 | Noboru | stew, Installed: 1.60-17ubuntu1 Candidate: 1.60-17ubuntu1 |
| 14:31.32 | streuner | f00bar80: no idea, ifup <eth0, wlan0> works like a charm here |
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| 14:32.00 | stew | Noboru: i don't know then |
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| 14:32.14 | stew | f00bar80: its just "dhclient eth0" |
| 14:32.15 | f00bar80 | streuner: what's relation between ifup and obtaining an automatic IP |
| 14:32.19 | Noboru | probably a reboot ? |
| 14:32.35 | stew | f00bar80: if your /etc/network/interfaces is properly setup, "ifup eth0" would run dhclient |
| 14:33.09 | f00bar80 | stew: what about dhcp3-client ? |
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| 14:34.30 | f00bar80 | stew: i'm asking must i check eth0 ifup in /etc/network/interfaces before running dhclient eth0 , ? |
| 14:34.58 | stew | f00bar80: no |
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| 14:35.41 | Noboru | stew, anyway,thanks a lot for helping me, by the way,any news about this bug that im expecting to know from you.thanks again. |
| 14:35.55 | stew | f00bar80: what we are saying is that normally one would have /etc/network/interfaces setup properly, so that "dhclient eth0" is run automatically when you boot, or anytime you run "ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0" |
| 14:36.01 | Noboru | Happy new year to you all. Night. |
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| 14:37.07 | f00bar80 | stew: that what's inside my ../interfaces file http://pastebin.ca/831862 |
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| 14:38.33 | stew | f00bar80: yes, that looks like eth0 is setup for dhcp, so "dhclient eth0" should be run at boot or anytime you run "ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0" |
| 14:38.43 | stew | though i have never before seen a "name" entry in /etc/netowrk/interfaces |
| 14:39.00 | stew | nor is one documented in the interfaces(5) manpage |
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| 14:40.00 | f00bar80 | stew: it's ported wireless Interface which i ported its driver using ndiswrapper , |
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| 14:40.54 | streuner | why did you changes in "interfaces" then? |
| 14:41.16 | streuner | via ndiswrapper you could just use "ndisgtk", done. |
| 14:41.19 | f00bar80 | streuner: i didn't , this was by ndiswrapper |
| 14:42.41 | streuner | heh, /me look into /etc/network/interfaces at his laptop... |
| 14:42.44 | f00bar80 | stew: now in order i want use dhcp client with eth0 to obtain auto IP , what i have to do ? |
| 14:42.52 | stew | f00bar80: nothing |
| 14:43.00 | stew | f00bar80: you are already using it |
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| 14:43.42 | redduck676 | f00bar80: i have to set essid before using dhclient on my wireless interface. |
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| 14:43.58 | f00bar80 | stew: ok something else i tried to install ipmasq , when i did i couldn't ping neither browsing , ... |
| 14:44.03 | nascentmind | hi |
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| 14:44.41 | nascentmind | i mounted a winxp drive and i am trying to change directory to this but sudo says cd command not found. |
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| 14:44.46 | f00bar80 | any comment |
| 14:45.03 | stew | f00bar80: show us the output of "/sibn/ifconfig ; /sbin/route -n ; iptables -L -n -v ; iptables -t nat -L -n -v" from a time when you cannot ping. use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 14:45.40 | redduck676 | nascentmind: sudo cd is plain stupid. use ''sudo su'' and do your things. |
| 14:46.07 | redduck676 | (or set umask/uid whn mounting the drive) |
| 14:46.13 | nascentmind | redduck676, k then if i want amarok to access this drive and i.e. not without a cmd line how can i do it? |
| 14:46.27 | stew | nascentmind: do you intend for normal users to be able to browse the drives contents or only root? |
| 14:46.31 | stew | nascentmind: /msg dpkg ntfsro |
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| 14:46.53 | streuner | f00bar80: and kind of laptop is this? |
| 14:46.53 | streuner | f00bar80: what* |
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| 14:47.07 | nascentmind | stew, i am the single user who is going to use this. |
| 14:47.37 | stew | nascentmind: then "/msg dpkg ntfsro" should tell you how to mount it so that your user can browse the contents (not requiring root) |
| 14:47.39 | redduck666 | nascentmind: when mounting the drive add -o uid=<your uid> |
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| 14:49.32 | vchrizz | hi |
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| 14:50.14 | vchrizz | could someone help me with iptables pls? got the problem with my ipt-script, that i cant ping some hosts on the local network, e.g. my modem, or wlan router, but other hosts like computers without problem... |
| 14:50.39 | vchrizz | my ipt script: http://213.229.11.180/ip-up-script.txt my network: http://213.229.11.180/mynetwork.png |
| 14:50.41 | enouf | ManuP: so you've been doing something like this manually? echo "conservative" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
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| 14:50.46 | wols_ | vchrizz: best show them the network layout... |
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| 14:51.04 | vchrizz | wols_, doing... ;) |
| 14:51.06 | vchrizz | hi btw |
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| 14:51.30 | enouf | ManuP: do you have "acpi-support pkg installed? how about "laptop-detect" pkg |
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| 14:51.49 | ManuP | enouf, more cpufreq-set -g conservative... |
| 14:52.09 | enouf | heh, easy enough |
| 14:52.14 | ManuP | right |
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| 14:52.27 | enouf | but you have acpi-support? |
| 14:52.59 | ManuP | enouf, i once had (on 32 bit) i think i still have. how do i check? |
| 14:53.22 | enouf | ManuP: dpkg -l acpi-support | tail -1 |
| 14:53.26 | ManuP | acpi -V tells me about my battery etc. |
| 14:53.52 | enouf | ManuP: this 'support' pkg has many scripts for events |
| 14:53.56 | ManuP | enouf, jap, is installed |
| 14:54.39 | ManuP | enouf, ah, acpi_listen tells me the acpi-events! |
| 14:54.44 | ManuP | enouf, nice... |
| 14:55.05 | ManuP | enouf, eg: ac_adapter C1BD 00000080 00000001 |
| 14:55.54 | ManuP | enouf, what about the performance? if i let a script run in a loop (sth. like while true do begin sleep 100; cpufreq...) wont that slow down my sys? |
| 14:55.57 | enouf | ManuP: well, my guess is that one of those scripts is triggered upon your hot-plugging power adapter, i'd either add to, or subtract, or alter it - ala the script shown here under "Kernel controlled CPU frequency scaling" section http://www.castalie.org/Linux/C610-ACPI.html |
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| 14:56.21 | ManuP | brb |
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| 14:57.31 | spal | hi |
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| 14:58.11 | gamag | man 2 kill ==> No manual entry for kill in section 2, See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not a |
| 14:58.16 | gamag | what do I need to install? |
| 14:58.36 | abrotman | man 1 kill ? |
| 14:58.50 | abrotman | man 2 kill would be part of manpages-dev |
| 14:59.21 | gamag | .. |
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| 14:59.25 | gamag | i need man 2 kill, the system call. let me try. |
| 14:59.43 | abrotman | manpages-dev has a man 2 kill |
| 14:59.56 | newbie | hi, I have for most of you one silly question |
| 14:59.56 | newbie | every user on my server can see other users home directory, what is right permission command to remove permissions from users to acess other person /home dir? |
| 15:00.26 | gamag | abrotman: how did you find it out so quickly? |
| 15:00.35 | newbie | i know that I can find detailed permissions explanation on google, but I don't want to screw everything on beginning.. |
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| 15:00.45 | abrotman | gamag: if you install apt-file .. you can search quickly |
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| 15:01.36 | gamag | abrotman: why? apt-cache search can not do it? |
| 15:02.07 | abrotman | cause that's not what it does? |
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| 15:02.41 | abrotman | !find kill.2.gz etc |
| 15:02.43 | abrotman | !find kill.2.gz etch |
| 15:02.52 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'kill.2.gz etc' returned no results. |
| 15:02.55 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'kill.2.gz' (6 of 9): (/usr/share/man/ko/man2/kill.2.gz) in doc/manpages-ko ;; (/usr/share/man/nl/man2/kill.2.gz) in doc/manpages-nl ;; (/usr/share/man/tr/man2/kill.2.gz) in doc/manpages-tr ;; (/usr/share/man/ru/man2/kill.2.gz) in doc/manpages-ru ;; (/usr/share/man/pl/man2/kill.2.gz) in doc/manpages-pl-dev ;; (/usr/share/man/es/man2/{kill.2.gz|tkill.2.gz}) in doc/manpages-es. |
| 15:03.09 | gamag | I did: apt-cache search dosemu => console-cyrillic - Better Cyrillic support for Linux console, xfonts-terminus-dos - Fixed-width fonts for DOS encodings |
| 15:03.22 | gamag | why did it return those things for dosemu |
| 15:03.36 | abrotman | apt-cache show console-cyrillic .. look |
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| 15:04.35 | gamag | abrotman: oh! so apt-cache search is text based search like google? |
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| 15:04.54 | gamag | and apt-file search is finding a file is in which package? |
| 15:05.18 | abrotman | yes |
| 15:05.21 | abrotman | !apt-file |
| 15:05.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file, or list files in a package, see also <auto-apt> and <pdo>, or use apt-file: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename. |
| 15:06.34 | gamag | if I say bad things to dpkg would someone know? is there a logging sysetm in dpkg which will let the person who is running dpkg see it? |
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| 15:06.53 | dutchfish | yes |
| 15:07.09 | abrotman | gamag: and why would you do that ? |
| 15:07.19 | enouf | abrotman: what's that i think karsten was saying about search speed (vs apt-file), was it auto-apt? or apt-build? (i'm thinking the latter) |
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| 15:07.27 | gamag | abrotman: just to check what kind of responses it will give. |
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| 15:07.49 | SamuraiDio | hi |
| 15:07.52 | abrotman | enouf: don't remember .. |
| 15:07.56 | abrotman | gamag: ok |
| 15:08.00 | enouf | fair enough |
| 15:08.03 | gamag | there are messages in dpkg which is not, "a is a xyz" type of facts. it responds differently to some messages, without saying, rumour has it, or from memor |
| 15:08.09 | gamag | how to feed such messages? |
| 15:08.37 | abrotman | !apt-find |
| 15:08.37 | dpkg | apt-find is probably a ncurses-based frontend for apt, which may replace dselect sometime in the future. you probably meant apt-file, greycat. |
| 15:08.38 | abrotman | heh |
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| 15:08.47 | enouf | gamag: you mess with the bot too much she get pissed and leaves |
| 15:08.48 | ManuP | enouf, the link is great. where do you get this? from google? |
| 15:08.55 | gg | oh wow today was christmas |
| 15:09.02 | abrotman | is? |
| 15:09.14 | enouf | ManuP: bookmarked ;-0 (thank amphi, iirc) |
| 15:09.23 | loca|host | !d-i |
| 15:09.23 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now Testing! |
| 15:09.29 | ManuP | enouf, ^^ |
| 15:09.35 | SamuraiDio | i'm planning to reinstall my debian as a i386 (i have installed it as amd64) but i want to keep the same configuration that i have now. i have the /home on a separated partition but, when i create, on the new installation, the new (same name as now) user, will it use the same home folder that i do have now? |
| 15:10.04 | gamag | enouf: why would the bot get pissed? it is only a program. it can not get pissed. |
| 15:10.12 | abrotman | enouf: yeah .. i can't frind it .. have to ask karsten .. i don't recall |
| 15:10.19 | gamag | please teach me how to feed non "is a" type facts into the dpkg. |
| 15:10.19 | abrotman | gamag: the owner gets pissed and blocks you |
| 15:10.32 | gamag | oh! :-O who is the owner? |
| 15:10.44 | enouf | abrotman: do "/msg dpkg auto-apt" , seems like it |
| 15:11.02 | abrotman | eh .. maybe |
| 15:11.05 | gamag | i won't do anything wrong. promise. i will feed only good and some funny helpful messages. |
| 15:11.10 | enouf | gamag: go play with a supybot somewhere in your own channel |
| 15:11.16 | abrotman | it's not a supybot |
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| 15:11.21 | enouf | i know that |
| 15:11.31 | gamag | :( |
| 15:11.33 | enouf | still - supybots are meant to be abused O.o |
| 15:11.53 | enouf | not our shiny metal loving armed blootness ;-) |
| 15:12.15 | gamag | Linux is about sharing knowledge, not not-sharing knowledge. so please tell me. |
| 15:12.37 | SamuraiDio | if i reinstall my system will the new created user use the same home folder as the previows installation one? |
| 15:12.44 | enouf | gamag: life is about motivationa as well ;-) |
| 15:17.18 | SamuraiDio | how do i clone the entire installation? |
| 15:17.35 | SamuraiDio | i got the command other day, but cant remember, to install all packages i have 'ill now |
| 15:17.44 | SamuraiDio | 'till |
| 15:18.24 | abrotman | !aptitude clone |
| 15:18.24 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favorite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude upgrade; on the other machine. |
| 15:18.25 | enouf | SamuraiDio: if you tell the installer to use that as your /home - though if you want a new user to use that /home as home just use usermod, iinm |
| 15:18.52 | dutchfish | mm... i just was wondering where that good old proggi elisa went, cant find anything about it anymore. (about 10 years back) The thingy you could talk to and gave rubbush answers back ... |
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| 15:19.05 | enouf | eliza? |
| 15:19.09 | dutchfish | yep |
| 15:19.21 | enouf | spell it correctly :-P |
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| 15:19.53 | SamuraiDio | enouf, by default, if a home folder already exists, will the new user (created by the installer or adduser) use that folder or will it create a new one? |
| 15:19.54 | dutchfish | enouf, sorry but eliza is not in repos |
| 15:20.01 | abrotman | SamuraiDio: if the UID is the same |
| 15:20.01 | enouf | hrm |
| 15:20.21 | blubberdiblub | dutchfish: wasn't there an eliza implementation in emacs at some point? |
| 15:20.24 | SamuraiDio | ok |
| 15:20.28 | abrotman | dutchfish: freshmeat ? |
| 15:20.35 | SamuraiDio | and about clone? can someone help me? |
| 15:20.36 | enouf | sourceforge? |
| 15:20.38 | dutchfish | blubberdiblub, yesss ... right... |
| 15:20.59 | dutchfish | nostalgia |
| 15:21.37 | enouf | libchatbot-eliza-perl - Eliza chat bot interface module for Perl |
| 15:21.54 | dutchfish | enouf, cool thank you sir! |
| 15:22.06 | enouf | dutchfish: well, i'm on a lenny/sid mix here |
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| 15:22.47 | dutchfish | enouf, its in etch too, thnak you |
| 15:22.49 | abrotman | though .. elisa looks interesting |
| 15:23.04 | abrotman | http://elisa.fluendo.com/ |
| 15:23.07 | gamag | is there an alias or link option in dpkg such that two or three different keys point to the same fact? |
| 15:23.15 | enouf | SamuraiDio: whati kinda was suggesting, since you're reinstalling., might as well alter in now, prior to reinstall (perhaps) |
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| 15:23.34 | enouf | cool dutchfish |
| 15:23.34 | abrotman | gamag: yes |
| 15:23.44 | gamag | abrotman: what is the command? |
| 15:24.04 | stew | blubberdiblub: M-x doctor |
| 15:24.06 | enouf | gamag: for ex; "d-i" and "di" do, iir |
| 15:24.12 | SamuraiDio | enouf, sorry, i couldn't understand |
| 15:24.21 | newbie | a bit bumping |
| 15:24.22 | blubberdiblub | dutchfish: ^ what stew said |
| 15:24.22 | newbie | [16:01] <newbie> hi, I have for most of you one silly question |
| 15:24.23 | newbie | [16:01] <newbie> every user on my server can see other users home directory, what is right permission command to remove permissions from users to acess other person /home dir? |
| 15:24.37 | enouf | SamuraiDio: i mean, use usermod now, and change to your new user to be .. then reinstall |
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| 15:24.52 | abrotman | newbie: o-r |
| 15:24.56 | ManuP | how do i remove a key with apt-key del ? i dont know which id is meant. |
| 15:25.01 | SamuraiDio | enouf, i'll create the user with the same username after reinstall |
| 15:25.05 | stew | newbie: chmod 700 /home/someuser ; "dpkg-reconfigure adduser" to change the default for new users |
| 15:25.10 | abrotman | ManuP: the key is the eight character string |
| 15:25.14 | gamag | enouf: do you enter it twice for d-i and di? or you define t once for d-i and make di point to d-i? |
| 15:25.15 | stew | newbie: you might want to read /msg dpkg Permissions |
| 15:25.16 | enouf | SamuraiDio: the installer should notice the /home, and offer you to use that user and /home for that user - however i'm not positive about all this |
| 15:25.30 | enouf | gamag: i think one points to the other |
| 15:25.31 | SamuraiDio | enouf, ok, thanks |
| 15:25.53 | enouf | SamuraiDio: now, your /home is on it's own partition, yes? |
| 15:26.02 | ManuP | abrotman, thanks. i tryed with the 5 chars in front... |
| 15:26.08 | gamag | enouf: how is that pointing done? |
| 15:26.08 | SamuraiDio | yes |
| 15:26.15 | enouf | SamuraiDio: okie doke |
| 15:26.28 | abrotman | gamag: http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ go read |
| 15:26.35 | enouf | SamuraiDio: make a backup of your /home .. please ;-) |
| 15:26.55 | SamuraiDio | thanks enouf, i'll go lunch now |
| 15:26.56 | gamag | abrotman: hurray! thank you very much. :-D |
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| 15:27.41 | abrotman | gamag: next time try google |
| 15:27.55 | enouf | SamuraiDio: and write down your passwds - atleast temporarily throughout all this ;-) |
| 15:28.15 | spal | abrotman: ok |
| 15:28.32 | abrotman | spal? |
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| 15:29.15 | timonator | flashplugin-nonfree fails to install, because the md5sum in the package doesn't match the one of the package hosted by adobe; supposing they just updated their flashplugin... how long will it usually take for the maintainer to update the package? |
| 15:29.22 | abrotman | spal: ? |
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| 15:30.08 | gamag | abrotman: I tried searching in google but didn't get. thank you. |
| 15:31.12 | dutchfish | timonator, there are major security issues atm with flash, be warned |
| 15:31.52 | stew | timonator: which version of debian are you running? |
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| 15:32.21 | stew | hopefully the reason that there is a new flash plugin is to fix the security issues |
| 15:32.23 | timonator | stew: etch |
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| 15:32.33 | timonator | hmm |
| 15:32.37 | dutchfish | stew, i hope so |
| 15:32.40 | stew | timonator: there will not be an update then |
| 15:32.47 | abrotman | there's a bug against it |
| 15:32.48 | timonator | i see. |
| 15:32.53 | stew | (at least afaik) |
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| 15:33.10 | timonator | gnash fails playing flv videos on youtube and similar services |
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| 15:33.51 | superpigs | im on etch debian 4.0 or whatever and my uname -a gives me -> 2.6.18-5-686 and i need to precompile my kernel in order to install my nvidia graphics card driver... how do i do this ????????????? |
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| 15:33.56 | dobby | hi i have lot of files in my direcotry now i want to set rights 644 to the file is there a option that i can set all files without changing rights to the direcotry? |
| 15:34.14 | karmatronic | Superbartt, no hace falta recompilar el kernel para esto |
| 15:34.24 | timonator | superpigs: just get the appropriate kernel source package from the repository |
| 15:34.24 | stew | timonator: you might try flashplugin-nonfree from backports: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 15:34.25 | karmatronic | Superbartt, sorry i meant |
| 15:34.28 | Superbartt | say what? Oo |
| 15:34.29 | war | dobby: find -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; |
| 15:34.36 | war | dobby: find dirname -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; |
| 15:34.38 | superpigs | timonator and do what with it ??? |
| 15:34.43 | superpigs | timonator where should i put it |
| 15:34.43 | karmatronic | Superbartt, you dont need to recompile kernel to install nvidia driver |
| 15:34.54 | timonator | just install it |
| 15:34.55 | dobby | cool tahnks |
| 15:35.01 | superpigs | timonator k |
| 15:35.03 | dutchfish | stew, that one isnt patched yet either |
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| 15:35.19 | stew | ok |
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| 15:35.41 | karmatronic | Superbartt, use nodule assistant or download the driver package for nvidia website |
| 15:35.42 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 15:35.42 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is, like, apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. |
| 15:35.52 | superpigs | will i get that kernel stuff from the debian package search engine or ? |
| 15:36.09 | karmatronic | s/for/from |
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| 15:39.16 | superpigs | http://packages.debian.org/etch/i386/gspca-modules-2.6.18-5-686/download </ is this what i should get ? |
| 15:39.30 | superpigs | nha that seems to be sosething else |
| 15:39.31 | superpigs | hm |
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| 15:40.29 | wols_ | superpigs: what nvidia-card do you have? |
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| 15:40.57 | superpigs | nvidia gforce 6200 |
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| 15:41.09 | superpigs | i have the correct driver |
| 15:41.13 | wols_ | then read what dpkg wrote above |
| 15:41.14 | superpigs | its just that it complaints about the kernel |
| 15:41.18 | superpigs | k |
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| 15:41.30 | abrotman | he's trying ot use the nvidia.com system wrecker! |
| 15:41.35 | wols_ | superpigs: we don't support drivers from nbvidia.com. they aren't necessary |
| 15:41.43 | bjwebb | what is the package for the kernel sources? |
| 15:41.48 | wols_ | superpigs: ask #nvidia if you insist on using them |
| 15:41.55 | abrotman | bjwebb: apt-cache search linux-source |
| 15:42.06 | superpigs | apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-gl && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 15:42.13 | superpigs | should i use that one |
| 15:42.14 | superpigs | ? |
| 15:42.15 | dutchfish | superpigs, did you install build-essential ? |
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| 15:42.36 | bjwebb | abrotman: ah |
| 15:42.41 | wols_ | superpigs: yes |
| 15:42.58 | bjwebb | i was looking for kernel-source |
| 15:43.02 | bjwebb | oops |
| 15:43.15 | wols_ | bjwebb: that was the name in sarge and before |
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| 15:43.36 | bjwebb | yeah, i understand now |
| 15:43.39 | bjwebb | thanks |
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| 15:44.22 | f00bar80 | i'm using debian-sarge , i'm asking how to let my ethernet interface obtain Automatic IP , i tried dhclient eth0 but i got the eth0 IP--> 10.0.0.1 from ifconfig , here is my /etc/network/interfaces contents "http://pastebin.ca/831862" |
| 15:44.26 | f00bar80 | and also this is my route output -> http://pastebin.ca/831897 |
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| 15:45.25 | el_isma | Hi. Is there any way to install i386 packages on amd64 and not have it complain? (ie: that afterwards aptitude doesn't insist on "repairing" the package) |
| 15:45.41 | wols_ | f00bar80: why is 10.0.0.1 bad? |
| 15:45.57 | wols_ | el_isma: what package? |
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| 15:47.05 | f00bar80 | wols_: cause this interface is connected to my adsl router and as i think it must assign an IP different than the default , also i can't get connected to the internet with IP |
| 15:47.40 | el_isma | wols_: some games, http://www.coulters.net/jscinoz/dists/gutsy-jscinoz/all/ , I think they aren't ubuntu specific since the games offer you to download a binary |
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| 15:48.18 | the_sniff | how do i check where are the files of an apt package are? |
| 15:48.32 | hdevalence | What packages do I need to install to get my sound to work? |
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| 15:49.34 | f00bar80 | ppl any comment ? |
| 15:49.47 | vchrizz | hdevalence: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page ;) |
| 15:50.07 | the_sniff | f00bar80 on what? |
| 15:50.12 | vchrizz | f00bar80, how do you connect to the internet? pptp? pppoe? ... |
| 15:50.21 | mbroeker | hdevalence, if you have a std installation, alsa should be up and running |
| 15:50.42 | abrotman | el_isma: those pacakges are i386 and not for debian |
| 15:50.42 | wols_ | f00bar80: dhclient eth0 will tel you if it's successful or not |
| 15:50.54 | wols_ | f00bar80: what is the internal IP of your router? |
| 15:50.58 | hdevalence | vchrizz: I already tried apt-get install alsa, but I didn't reboot. Is that necessary? |
| 15:51.08 | vchrizz | dont think so |
| 15:51.17 | wols_ | el_isma: you need to create a schroot. you cannot install 32bit packages in 64bit debian |
| 15:51.18 | enouf | timonator: i play flv in mplayer |
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| 15:51.23 | wols_ | !reboot |
| 15:51.24 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 15:51.37 | el_isma | abrotman: I know. I think they will run fine on Debian. |
| 15:51.38 | timonator | enouf: is there an easy way to fetch the .flv address from the website? |
| 15:51.39 | vchrizz | hrh |
| 15:51.46 | enouf | timonator: i know nothing about youtube, but maybe youtube-dl can help you |
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| 15:52.00 | wols_ | timonator: flashplugin will store the flv/swf in /tmp |
| 15:52.11 | timonator | wols_: flashplugin won't install |
| 15:52.12 | enouf | !info youtube-dl etch |
| 15:52.16 | dpkg | youtube-dl: (download videos from youtube.com), section web, is extra. Version: 2006.11.12-1 (etch), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 60 kB |
| 15:52.18 | el_isma | wols_: Umm... I can dpkg --force-arch.. and they install and work. Afterwards, aptitude says it's broken and forces me to uninstall them. |
| 15:52.23 | f00bar80 | wols_: 10.0.0.138 |
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| 15:52.34 | wols_ | f00bar80: then your IP is correct I#d say |
| 15:52.42 | el_isma | abrotman: do you know of any way to install them anyway? |
| 15:52.47 | wols_ | but 10.0.0.138 is a strange IP for a router |
| 15:53.04 | wols_ | el_isma: unpack them |
| 15:53.13 | wols_ | don't install with dpkg |
| 15:53.29 | vchrizz | wols_, no, the ip is right... usually isps give that ip as standard route for pptp |
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| 15:53.46 | wols_ | vchrizz: 10.0.0.138? |
| 15:53.51 | el_isma | wols_: I'd really like to have them as packages. Can I repack them? How to? |
| 15:54.05 | wols_ | el_isma: by recompiling their sources |
| 15:54.19 | f00bar80 | ppl , so /... ? |
| 15:54.29 | ManuP | is it a good idea to add my user in the sudoers-file for chroot (NOPASSWD) |
| 15:54.30 | ManuP | ? |
| 15:54.55 | vchrizz | wols_, ya... when i got the modem from my isp i got only possibility to use pptp and since they unofficially support pppoe i reseted my modem and configured it like i needed it ;) |
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| 15:55.34 | vchrizz | as bridge... instead of router ;) |
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| 15:58.13 | vchrizz | in detail usually via dhcp you get some 10.21.8.* ip with 10.21.0.1 as gateway (=modem) and somehow a route to 10.0.0.138 for pptp... i cant remember exactly |
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| 15:58.44 | Nyle | merry officially xmas |
| 15:59.06 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: so now what i have to do , to let my interface connected to this debian box to obtain a DHCP IP ? |
| 15:59.09 | enouf | happy chakakhan |
| 15:59.24 | Nyle | man I can't wait to go to work |
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| 15:59.41 | rarj | Hi. Can someone help me with "Try running with LIBGL_THROTTLE_REFRESH and LIBL_SYNC_REFRESH unset" on doing glxinfo ? |
| 15:59.44 | Nyle | i'm bored out of my tit |
| 15:59.50 | rarj | Direct Rendering: Yes |
| 15:59.51 | enouf | that makes two of us ;-p |
| 16:00.03 | Nyle | rarj: which drier? |
| 16:00.04 | Nyle | driver? |
| 16:00.10 | rarj | i915 |
| 16:00.14 | Nyle | hm |
| 16:00.19 | vchrizz | f00bar80, try the command: pppoe-discovery |
| 16:00.25 | vchrizz | what does it show you |
| 16:00.25 | vchrizz | ? |
| 16:00.28 | Nyle | that should have the following extensions |
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| 16:00.44 | hdevalence | vchrizz: I'd rather install alsa through apt. after installing alsa-base alsa-oss and alsa-utils I still have nothing. What am I doing wrong? |
| 16:01.03 | Nyle | hdevalence: maybe try alsaconf *deprecated almost* |
| 16:01.16 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: pppoe: ioctl(SIOCGIFHWADDR): No such device |
| 16:01.21 | vchrizz | yup, i'd try alsaconf too |
| 16:01.29 | Nyle | alsaconf as root *I dunno your situation so thats what I suggest* |
| 16:01.41 | Nyle | I also have a headache, but thats not debian related |
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| 16:01.48 | vchrizz | f00bar80, ok, then you have to use pptp... do you have the package pptp-linux installed? |
| 16:02.08 | Nyle | DSL is pppoe? |
| 16:02.30 | mbroeker | hdevalence, switch the speakers on and unmute the device with alsamixer. |
| 16:02.31 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: i'm installing it |
| 16:02.35 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: then ? |
| 16:02.49 | vchrizz | can be pppoe or pptp or pppoa or some ethernet encapsulation, but i dont know what that is and how it works .. gg |
| 16:02.49 | LoneTech | some DSL lines use pppoe, others use plain ethernet. the dsl line itself is atm based but your computer won't need to deal with that. |
| 16:03.01 | Nyle | LoneTech: ah yes, the ATM |
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| 16:03.10 | Nyle | fast |
| 16:03.11 | vchrizz | yup, dsl line itself is atm |
| 16:03.12 | LoneTech | never heard of an isp using pptp though, that's for tunneling within ip |
| 16:03.17 | Nyle | I did not know that |
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| 16:03.45 | Nyle | man I took lan/wan fundamentals and some secondary courses in college |
| 16:03.47 | Nyle | I done forgot |
| 16:04.22 | vchrizz | LoneTech, check inode.at(pptp/pppoe) or aon.at(pppoa) or telekom.de(pppoe) or similar ;) they offer it |
| 16:04.37 | spal | abrotman: ? |
| 16:04.42 | Nyle | I've never tried to setup a dialup system on linux. Always had broadband luckily. |
| 16:04.52 | abrotman | spal: you did it first |
| 16:04.53 | LoneTech | I guess it's to do logins without pppoe? |
| 16:05.07 | f00bar80 | LoneTech: from my router configs --> service description Routed PPPoE packet service configuration using always on session connectivity |
| 16:05.35 | Nyle | LoneTech: I wonder, shouldn't the system just see the connection as ethernet, so why do you need to do all this. The authentication to the ISP is done via the DSL modem, no? |
| 16:05.41 | spal | abrotman: oh yes. sorry for that. |
| 16:05.43 | Nyle | dsl modem takes care of all that, afaik |
| 16:05.44 | hdevalence | mbroeker: When I try to start alsamixer I get No mixer elems found |
| 16:06.08 | Tabakhase | How to control dante how many childs he is allowed to start? |
| 16:06.11 | Nyle | dsl modem firmware/config should have the login/pass info |
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| 16:06.24 | LoneTech | Nyle: around here, half the DSL providers do no authentication - your line is your access. The others do PPPoE, so you get the PPP authentication. |
| 16:06.24 | abrotman | dante ? |
| 16:06.30 | mbroeker | hdevalence, have you configured your card with alsaconf? |
| 16:06.36 | Nyle | LoneTech: ohho |
| 16:06.39 | vchrizz | Nyle, depends on how its configured... either as bridge (then auth is done via pptp/pppoe) or as router (then the modem does pptp/pppoe) |
| 16:06.40 | mbroeker | and is the service running up? |
| 16:06.41 | AMDFreak | hdevalence: you have to run alsaconf |
| 16:06.41 | Nyle | uff |
| 16:06.48 | hdevalence | I ran alsaconf |
| 16:06.49 | LoneTech | and many modems support a PPPoE routing mode |
| 16:06.54 | Nyle | i see |
| 16:06.55 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: any comment ? |
| 16:07.01 | vchrizz | f00bar80, on? |
| 16:07.16 | hdevalence | it said "Now ALSA is ready to use." |
| 16:07.30 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: after installing pptp-linux ? what i have to do exactly ? |
| 16:07.38 | vchrizz | Nyle, i wouldnt tell "i like cable modems" cause it depends on the network layout of your isp how fast your internet is ;) |
| 16:07.47 | Nyle | hdevalence: now you need to set your vol levels in alsamixer |
| 16:07.50 | Nyle | or alsamixergui |
| 16:07.54 | Nyle | if you have a gui insalled |
| 16:08.09 | hdevalence | Nyle: I can't run alsamixer |
| 16:08.39 | vchrizz | f00bar80, pls use google a little bit! http://www.google.com/search?q=pptp-linux+howto |
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| 16:08.50 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 16:08.50 | dpkg | alsa one-liner is, like, "apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils", or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels, or some applications don't know how to talk directly to ALSA (ask about <devdsp>). You may also need libesd-alsa0 if you're using ESD-based applications. |
| 16:08.53 | Nyle | vchrizz: well ime, most of the cable providers in the US and A are very fast, mostly faster than DSL, even in a place like NYC, on a 10mbit line, 24/7, I get almost FULL 10mpbs down, around 1-1.5MB/s |
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| 16:09.03 | vchrizz | f00bar80, http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-debian.phtml |
| 16:09.15 | Nyle | I've tried Cox Communications, Roadrunner Cable, and Bellsouth DSL |
| 16:09.27 | Nyle | well, at least the people who approved my credit |
| 16:09.36 | hdevalence | Those packages are already installed |
| 16:09.45 | Nyle | bellsouth was horrible in louisiana |
| 16:09.52 | Nyle | cable rocked |
| 16:10.03 | vchrizz | Nyle, well in austria our only cable provider is rather slower than dsl line providers... |
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| 16:10.19 | Nyle | vchrizz: that can happen, cable is a shared medium |
| 16:10.45 | Nyle | depending on the amount of client present on a node, it could get saturated |
| 16:10.53 | pluto^ | using proftpd on debian testing, http://pastebin.ca/831923 <-- config file and --> client output http://pastebin.ca/831903 it times out on directory listing |
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| 16:10.57 | Nyle | especially on sat. sun nights when everyone is home watching tv and using internet |
| 16:11.25 | vchrizz | Nyle, and thats the problem! they share 1mbit to 30-50 people... ugly... |
| 16:11.32 | Nyle | holy shit! |
| 16:11.43 | Nyle | c'mon austria, get with the program |
| 16:11.49 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: that's in case i know any given IP, but i want to use DHCP |
| 16:12.02 | Nyle | even in pakistan we got like fiberoptics and 10-20mbit lines |
| 16:12.04 | Nyle | heh |
| 16:12.21 | Nyle | ;) its all good |
| 16:12.33 | pluto^ | Nyle, are you a proftpd dude :) |
| 16:12.35 | vchrizz | Nyle, they tell you, you get 16mbit max... right... but in the evening when everybody comes online, your line is like 5mbit or so |
| 16:12.47 | dominik | i have a problem with my nvidia graca driver |
| 16:12.52 | Nyle | pluto, I am beast |
| 16:12.54 | Nyle | vsftpd |
| 16:13.04 | Nyle | 666 |
| 16:13.05 | vchrizz | Nyle, and so i can tell, i hate shared medium connections ;) |
| 16:13.06 | dominik | i can install it and it runs, until i reboot |
| 16:13.19 | dominik | what could be the problem? |
| 16:13.27 | Nyle | graca driver? |
| 16:13.34 | Nyle | whats is a graca, you mean graphics? |
| 16:13.43 | dominik | graphic card |
| 16:13.50 | Nyle | which card is it, and which drier are you using, how did you get that driver, and how did you compile it |
| 16:13.55 | vchrizz | f00bar80, you are using dhcp... to get connected to your modem... i dont understand your problem..? |
| 16:14.01 | Nyle | also, which debian release you are using too please |
| 16:14.10 | Nyle | dominik: ^^ |
| 16:14.12 | dominik | its a NVIDIA 8800 GTS |
| 16:14.22 | Nyle | !tell dominik -about nvidia |
| 16:14.36 | vchrizz | heh |
| 16:14.53 | dominik | im using the nvidia driver |
| 16:14.57 | timonator | !tell timonator -about nvidia |
| 16:15.02 | Nyle | actually |
| 16:15.10 | Nyle | you said it is good until you restart |
| 16:15.10 | dominik | debian unstable |
| 16:15.15 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: i'm asking how to let my ethernet interface obtain Automatic IP , i tried dhclient eth0 but i got the eth0 IP--> 10.0.0.1 , here is my /etc/network/interfaces contents "http://pastebin.ca/831862" |
| 16:15.16 | dominik | yop |
| 16:15.22 | Nyle | dominik: oh thats not officially supported |
| 16:15.39 | vchrizz | ive got ati and hate it that the drivers for older ati ards dont support xorg higher 7.1 |
| 16:15.42 | Nyle | dominik: however, I would try to see if an entry for nvidia exists at in /etc/modules |
| 16:15.56 | Nyle | dominik: also, after you restart, and type startx, what error do you get? |
| 16:16.16 | wols_ | vchrizz: but "ati" does support them and is a better driver anyways |
| 16:16.27 | Nyle | does it complain about nvidia module not being loaded *(no screens found)* with some other error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 16:16.46 | Nyle | ? |
| 16:17.05 | white_eagle | !ping |
| 16:17.05 | dpkg | pong |
| 16:17.21 | Nyle | and last but not least, I would check the debian BTS for nvidia packages and see if there are any bugs like this |
| 16:17.25 | dominik | the module seems to be running |
| 16:17.30 | Nyle | if not, try to file a bug using reportbug |
| 16:17.33 | white_eagle | ping me |
| 16:17.38 | white_eagle | !ping me |
| 16:17.39 | white_eagle | lol |
| 16:17.45 | dominik | startx says smthg like "no monitor found" |
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| 16:18.16 | Nyle | dominik: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 16:18.24 | Nyle | I have to go to work soon, so ... |
| 16:18.33 | dominik | k... |
| 16:18.50 | vchrizz | f00bar80, how about reading man interfaces ? :) |
| 16:19.08 | pluto^ | dominik, use vesa driver to get up and running |
| 16:19.15 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: what shows that i'm in a need to do so ? |
| 16:19.16 | vchrizz | f00bar80, if you would read that, you would come to this /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.ca/831932 |
| 16:19.44 | dominik | i have do reproduce the error first |
| 16:19.50 | dominik | rebooted with nv... |
| 16:20.32 | vchrizz | wols_: lspci | grep Radeon -> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01) |
| 16:20.34 | vchrizz | wols_, dpkg -l xorg | grep ii -> ii xorg 1:7.2-5 X.Org X Window System |
| 16:20.55 | wols_ | vchrizz: and? |
| 16:20.58 | vchrizz | ill kiss your feet if you get fglrx running :D |
| 16:21.03 | pluto^ | anyone that can help with proftpd +ssl |
| 16:21.09 | wols_ | that's not possible and totally unecessary |
| 16:21.14 | mbroeker | vchrizz, i wont help you! |
| 16:21.25 | wols_ | vchrizz: you have ati and that's all you ever need |
| 16:21.30 | vchrizz | mbroeker, ? |
| 16:21.33 | wols_ | vchrizz: what do you want fglrx for? |
| 16:21.36 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: that's in case i want to down my wlan |
| 16:21.52 | vchrizz | wols_, for playing this really cool penguin game in 3d ;) |
| 16:22.13 | vchrizz | f00bar80, no, thats the config to get ip via dhcp |
| 16:22.19 | wols_ | vchrizz: for the last time: ati. and yes, it does 3D |
| 16:22.21 | Nyle | i have such a shitty ati card i have to use fglrx too |
| 16:22.29 | Nyle | no other drivers but vesa and fglrx work on my card |
| 16:22.34 | Nyle | isnt' that magical? |
| 16:22.38 | wols_ | Nyle: you have a shitty card, he has a proper on |
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| 16:22.45 | wols_ | *one |
| 16:22.54 | Nyle | I have X1900 XTX HD |
| 16:22.56 | Nyle | blah blah |
| 16:23.04 | vchrizz | wols_, well yes, but the driver for my radeon9200 only supports xorg until 7.1 but im on testing and use 7.2 |
| 16:23.04 | Nyle | its like a 250$ card man, its proper |
| 16:23.06 | Nyle | its proper |
| 16:23.33 | wols_ | vchrizz: for the fucking last time: the ati driver comes with every Xorg install, from debian main and supports your damn card in 3D |
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| 16:23.46 | vchrizz | wtf? |
| 16:23.55 | Nyle | oh man its a card that works with open source drivers |
| 16:24.05 | Nyle | you should consider yourself a lucky ati owner |
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| 16:24.13 | vchrizz | then why the hell im not able to install it?!? |
| 16:24.14 | vchrizz | lol |
| 16:24.16 | Nyle | go use radeon/ati drivers and rejoce |
| 16:24.21 | dominik | brb |
| 16:24.51 | wols_ | vchrizz: you don't really want me to answer that, do you? |
| 16:25.11 | wols_ | vchrizz: the driver is called "ati" and is NOT called "fglrx" |
| 16:25.13 | vchrizz | wols_, honestly, i really dont understand what you want to tell me |
| 16:25.23 | vchrizz | ah you mean the module for xorg? |
| 16:25.41 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: after editing the interfaces i have to restrat to get the system updated ? |
| 16:25.52 | vchrizz | f00bar80, ya |
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| 16:26.27 | wols_ | f00bar80: no. /etc/init.d/networking resrtart |
| 16:26.41 | wols_ | or ifdown ethX;ifup ethX |
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| 16:28.01 | vchrizz | wols_, with the ati and radeon driver/module for xorg i cant play any 3d games.. dunno why... not even tuxracer .. when i put in a better/newer ati card and install fglrx drivers for it which support xorg 7.2, tuxracer and 3d apps run without problems |
| 16:28.29 | wols_ | cause you don't isntall the 3D support for it via MESA |
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| 16:29.03 | vchrizz | aha? didnt read about it ... searched much howtos about drivers and so on... |
| 16:29.27 | vchrizz | and how do i install it? |
| 16:31.17 | dutchfish | are backticks in rbash disabled by default in etch? |
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| 16:32.24 | robin_sz | so, anyone got any bright ideas on how to get this debian laptop, an ipw3945 driver and wpa_supplicant to actually work sufficiently to connect to the 'net? |
| 16:32.38 | wols_ | vchrizz: linux 3D 9200 howto |
| 16:32.41 | wols_ | vchrizz: and you get lots |
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| 16:33.03 | vchrizz | heh, searching already and reading mesa3d.org ;) |
| 16:33.13 | wols_ | robin_sz: simplify the problem. unencrypted first, then when that works tackel wpa |
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| 16:33.47 | vchrizz | well, i remember that for later use, big thanks wols! |
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| 16:34.51 | Tabakhase | How to say "yast, instal pack XX" via console? (Without the yast interface) |
| 16:35.02 | abrotman | Tabakhase: in debian ? |
| 16:35.04 | Tabakhase | Is threr something like apt-get install PACK? |
| 16:35.09 | abrotman | !refcard |
| 16:35.09 | dpkg | [refcard] A short reference of Debian commands can be found at http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/ and will be quite useful for someone new to Debian. |
| 16:35.13 | Tabakhase | arg, drong channel |
| 16:35.16 | vchrizz | wols_, but my problem atm is my iptables script... i think because of any rule there, i cant ping my modem or wlan router... cause when i flush iptables i can ping without problems ;) |
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| 16:35.23 | Tabakhase | Looking fpr damn suse |
| 16:35.33 | vchrizz | wols_, so its no routing problem... ;) |
| 16:35.34 | wols_ | vchrizz: I told you before, you didn't want to listen |
| 16:35.42 | wols_ | use 2 NICs and it can work |
| 16:36.31 | marcin | Hi, I was wondering is it possible to build debian from sources like is it in gentoo? Beacuse, I want to have non stripped binaries with debug symbols. |
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| 16:36.45 | abrotman | !apt-build |
| 16:36.45 | dpkg | apt-build is probably an apt-get front-end for recompiling packages; http://julien.danjou.info/article-apt-build.html . Warning -- this program will not optimize your packages for you as advertised; the gcc O flags and friends that you specify are not even parsed properly. In a breath, don't bother with it, because apt-get source/build-dep is far more useful. |
| 16:36.50 | vchrizz | wols_, thats what im trying to tell you... you dont need 2nics .. ;) its my iptables script what is wrong!!! cause when i flush iptables everything runs fine, but when i load iptables script, i cant ping modem/wlanrouter |
| 16:38.05 | ManuP | would you recommend to write on ntfs? i am surprised that it works now... |
| 16:38.09 | wols_ | vchrizz: if you know it already, don't ask me |
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| 16:38.18 | wols_ | have a nice day |
| 16:38.39 | vchrizz | wols_, i know the problem, but dont see the error in my script :( thats why im crying :D |
| 16:38.51 | vchrizz | wols_, dont be angry on me, pls ;) |
| 16:39.05 | abrotman | you wouldn't like wols_ when he's angry |
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| 16:39.26 | ftv | ok |
| 16:39.39 | vchrizz | abrotman, i think he's really cool ;) |
| 16:39.56 | ftv | im the guy with the graphics driver problem... |
| 16:40.03 | AMDFreak | dominik: i think i have the solution for your problem |
| 16:40.13 | ftv | rly? |
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| 16:40.39 | vchrizz | all people in #iptables are sleeping... |
| 16:40.43 | vchrizz | :/ |
| 16:40.51 | ftv | ive pastebinned a few things |
| 16:41.11 | ftv | Xorg.0.log: |
| 16:41.15 | ftv | http://pastebin.com/m2ac5ab63 |
| 16:41.22 | AMDFreak | ftv: on a Terminal run "update-rc.d -f nvidia-glx remove" and then reboot |
| 16:41.34 | vchrizz | and i cant find on google any forum post about my error... im not even sure what im looking after.. i just know any rule in my script wont let me ping my modem and wlan router |
| 16:41.43 | ftv | k ill try that first |
| 16:42.04 | wols_ | AMDFreak: nvidia has a service in init.d? since when? |
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| 16:43.23 | grub | what does this mean WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 16:43.23 | grub | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.35 | abrotman | it means they can't be authenticated |
| 16:43.41 | wols_ | grub: /msg no public key |
| 16:43.45 | wols_ | grub: /msg dpkg no public key |
| 16:43.51 | grub | ok ty |
| 16:44.08 | AMDFreak | wols: i don't know, but this script loads the module at a wrong time, and however the driver can't work propper |
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| 16:44.25 | wols_ | what "script"? |
| 16:44.45 | homecable | hoho |
| 16:44.50 | AMDFreak | wols: a script named nvidia-glx |
| 16:45.03 | wols_ | AMDFreak: coming from where? |
| 16:45.15 | wols_ | AMDFreak: there is no such thing in debian |
| 16:45.18 | AMDFreak | wols: i'am from Germany.. |
| 16:45.26 | wols_ | the script. not you! |
| 16:45.27 | wols_ | sheesh |
| 16:46.12 | AMDFreak | wols; from the binary nvidia driver |
| 16:46.18 | abrotman | you sohuldn't use those |
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| 16:47.02 | wols_ | AMDFreak: not supported here |
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| 16:47.48 | AMDFreak | wols: by the way... i don't use nvidia, but in this issue is in german communities known |
| 16:48.30 | wols_ | AMDFreak: still OT |
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| 16:51.45 | valdyn | abrotman: its a racist bug |
| 16:51.50 | valdyn | abrotman: only hitting germans |
| 16:51.57 | valdyn | abrotman: and only on german ground |
| 16:54.55 | AMDFreak | valdyn: nooo... it's not a bug... it's a feature |
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| 16:56.05 | plee | AMDFreak, as in ./configure --make-life-for-german-people-miserable |
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| 16:56.07 | plee | ? |
| 16:56.24 | ftv | thx amdfreak |
| 16:56.30 | ftv | had to reinstall the drive |
| 16:56.31 | ftv | r |
| 16:56.40 | ftv | but it works :D |
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| 16:57.16 | mina | vchrizz: hey, after i did modify the /interfaces file , when i try to get my wlan0 up i loosed the internet connection , as the previous seetings for wlan it has the IP 192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0 and the one connected to is 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0 , when i tried to add the gw to be 192.168.0.1 i loosed the connection , any comment ? |
| 16:58.27 | ftv | bye all |
| 16:58.32 | AMDFreak | ftv: bye |
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| 17:15.42 | abrotman | valdyn: hehe |
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| 17:17.25 | the_sniff | eh |
| 17:17.26 | the_sniff | :s |
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| 17:17.51 | _Krieger_ | what is best place to define system-wide LANGUAGE env variable? |
| 17:18.16 | phenom | Any one with experience with rkhunter have a sec to go over a log? |
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| 17:19.25 | abrotman | _Krieger_: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 17:20.25 | _Krieger_ | i`d prefer exact file place |
| 17:21.11 | AMDFreak | _Krieger_: /etc/default/locale |
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| 17:23.21 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: are you there ? |
| 17:23.32 | vchrizz | yo? |
| 17:25.42 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: after modified the interfaces file as u said and tried to ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 a, iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc essid MSHOME, route add default gw 192.168.0.1 , i loosed the internet connection , must i add the gw in this way "route add -net 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev wlan0" ? |
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| 17:28.25 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: ..? |
| 17:28.31 | kickback | is there some specific port i need open on the firewall for proftpd +ssl on the firewall |
| 17:28.32 | vchrizz | f00bar80, i thought you get an ip via dhcp? so why do you set ip and so on when dhcp is on?!? |
| 17:29.23 | wols_ | kickback: ftp needs lots of open ports. 20,21 and a defined highrange of ports for PASV access |
| 17:29.45 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: i got an IP via dhcp for eth0 which is connected to the router , but for wlan0 i used always to give it a specific IP to be able to connect to the other box wlan with this IP class |
| 17:30.00 | kickback | i have 20 and 21 open |
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| 17:31.40 | ignotus | hello, the "man" command doesn't work for me: man something gives "pager: error while loading shared libraries: client.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory || man: command exited with status 32512: pager -s" |
| 17:31.53 | ignotus | what should I do? |
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| 17:32.15 | vchrizz | f00bar80, moment.. so you are connected to internet with eth0? .. then you already have a gateway... then you dont have to set a second gateway! |
| 17:32.18 | vchrizz | only one gateway! |
| 17:32.24 | vchrizz | so no gateway for wlan0 |
| 17:32.51 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: so how then i have to connect the 2 wlan interfaces on the 2 boxes ? |
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| 17:34.01 | vchrizz | as you told, you did right, but dont set a gateway... then you should be able to connect each other via wlan |
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| 17:35.53 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: how from the winbox i have to share the internet connection on the debian box ? |
| 17:36.52 | vchrizz | f00bar80, i really dont understand what you are doing... you are jumping from one situation/problem to another i would say.. |
| 17:37.19 | vchrizz | f00bar80, pls show me some map of your network how you got your devices connected and what you want... |
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| 17:37.44 | vchrizz | something like my network map: http://213.229.11.180/mynetwork.png |
| 17:37.46 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: i did what u said regarding the wlan i added the IP and the mode/essid , now i want to connect to the internet through the debian box from the winbox |
| 17:38.29 | AMDFreak | vchrizz: 1. Router to debianbox. config with gateway ip from the router |
| 17:39.01 | f00bar80 | vchrizz: i have on the debian box the eth0 connected to the adsl router and the wlan0 connected to winbox in a adhoc using 192.168.0.1/2 , i want to share the debian internet connection from winbox through the wlanS |
| 17:39.02 | AMDFreak | vchrizz: 2. config the wlan0 without a gateway ip |
| 17:39.03 | vchrizz | 1. i never told you to add any ip? 2. i dont know where the internet comes from and where you want to have it 3. i dont know what host is using what medium |
| 17:39.51 | AMDFreak | vchrizz: 3. aktivate Masquerading and ip forwarding |
| 17:40.13 | wols_ | f00bar80: as soon as the connection from windows to debian works. apt-get install ipmasq dnsmasq |
| 17:40.17 | wols_ | that's all |
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| 17:40.39 | AMDFreak | vchrizz: 4. config the windows box with gateway ip from wlan0 on the debian box |
| 17:40.44 | f00bar80 | wols_: i tried to install ipmasq got the connection loosed after installing it |
| 17:41.19 | f00bar80 | wols_: when removed it i got the connection back |
| 17:41.39 | wols_ | f00bar80: which interface did you dedicate as the WAN interface? |
| 17:42.05 | wols_ | and do you use ppp or not? |
| 17:42.13 | wols_ | pppd rather |
| 17:42.22 | f00bar80 | wols_: i can install it now again and may you direct me to select the correct interface ? |
| 17:42.36 | f00bar80 | wols_: the router uses PPPoE |
| 17:42.36 | wols_ | eth0 is your wan interface |
| 17:42.47 | wols_ | f00bar80: but debian doesn't run pppd? |
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| 17:43.23 | wols_ | f00bar80: what ip does eth0 have? |
| 17:43.26 | f00bar80 | wols_: is PPPoE is a pppd ? |
| 17:43.42 | f00bar80 | wols_: 10.0.0.1 and gw 10.0.0.138 |
| 17:43.45 | wols_ | pppoe uses pppd, but it depends where the pppoe happens |
| 17:43.58 | wols_ | do you have to give the router your isp username and password? |
| 17:44.12 | f00bar80 | wols_: no it uses dhcp |
| 17:44.30 | wols_ | ok,then you can use bridging too if you want |
| 17:44.38 | wols_ | either ipmasq or bridge-utils |
| 17:44.51 | f00bar80 | wols_: now i installed ipmasq |
| 17:44.58 | wols_ | bridging is cleaner but harder to setup, ipmasq would give a double nat |
| 17:45.29 | f00bar80 | wols_: so now after installed ipmasq what i have to do ? |
| 17:46.13 | wols_ | it asks you stuff |
| 17:46.32 | f00bar80 | no it doesn't |
| 17:46.43 | wols_ | dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq |
| 17:47.22 | f00bar80 | must i put a gw on the winbox ? |
| 17:47.45 | wols_ | yes. and a dns server adn ip and netmask |
| 17:47.52 | wols_ | the gw is your debian box LAN IP |
| 17:48.56 | f00bar80 | wols_: ipmasq -> do you wish to have ipmasq recompute the firewall rules when pppd brings up or takes down a link ? should ppp connections recompute the firewall yes no ? |
| 17:49.17 | f00bar80 | wols_: the gw is the 10.0.0.1 ? |
| 17:49.32 | wols_ | no, the gateway is 192.168.0.1 |
| 17:49.44 | wols_ | the LAN ip, not the outside IP towards the modem |
| 17:49.58 | wols_ | f00bar80: answer to the question: no |
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| 17:52.51 | f00bar80 | wols_: ipmasq can be told to initially compute the firewall rules at one a number of points in the boot process. This question asks at which point ipmasq should start . when should ipmasq should be started ? the default is After network interfaces are brought up and there is disable |
| 17:53.23 | wols_ | yes, after network interfaces are brpught up |
| 17:54.24 | f00bar80 | wols_: on my winbox the download applications felt the connection and uses it , but not the browser i got always Server not found |
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| 17:54.49 | wols_ | f00bar80: DNS is wrong |
| 17:55.20 | wols_ | install dnsmasq |
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| 17:57.15 | f00bar80 | wols_: Starting DNS forwarder and DHCP server: dnsmasqdnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket: Address already in use |
| 17:57.16 | f00bar80 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.16 | f00bar80 | invoke-rc.d: initscript dnsmasq, action "start" failed. |
| 17:57.55 | cmihai | f00bar80: netstat -a | grep LISTEN |
| 17:58.05 | cmihai | Something is already listening... maybe BIND? |
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| 17:58.47 | wols_ | sudo netstat -anp |grep 53 |
| 17:58.54 | wols_ | what is the process' name that listens? |
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| 17:59.41 | AMDFreak | f00bar80: put in the WindowsBox DNS Server from outside your intranet |
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| 18:00.04 | AMDFreak | f00bar80: then you don't need dnsmasq |
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| 18:00.24 | f00bar80 | wols_: netstat -a | grep LISTEN --> http://pastebin.ca/831997 and the process is named |
| 18:00.35 | cmihai | That's BIND. |
| 18:00.47 | wols_ | you already run bind then |
| 18:00.58 | f00bar80 | wols_: so ..? |
| 18:01.13 | yang | f00bar80: /etc/init.d/bind stop |
| 18:01.20 | cmihai | So you can't run 2 DNS servers on the same port, can you? Stop / disable one. |
| 18:01.20 | wols_ | as cmihai said and bind is allready a caching DNS. just a very bloated one. fix your windows DNS |
| 18:01.49 | Lisper | the only thing that ties me to etch is that if I update the glibc to the lenny one, my compiz fusion gets totally screwed up. It sucks pretty bad |
| 18:02.10 | f00bar80 | yang: /etc/init.d/bind stop |
| 18:02.11 | f00bar80 | bash: /etc/init.d/bind: No such file or directory |
| 18:02.16 | wols_ | Lisper: eithre dist-upgrade or use backports. do not mix |
| 18:02.36 | wols_ | f00bar80: ignore your linux box and fix youe windows DNS setting |
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| 18:03.05 | Lisper | yeah, the thing is that I want my sys stable but yet some nice stuff from lenny (like emacs22 which I'm building from a backport right now) |
| 18:03.08 | f00bar80 | wols_: must i assign dns stuff to the wlan interface on my winbox ? |
| 18:03.38 | Lisper | screwing things up is the best way to learn |
| 18:03.39 | Lisper | lol |
| 18:03.58 | wols_ | f00bar80: yes |
| 18:04.20 | Lisper | I totally screwed my sys some hours ago and had to reinstall it (backed up the apt cache though) |
| 18:04.26 | wols_ | f00bar80: dnsmasq can be configured as a dhcp server if you so wish. that means no windows config but normal dhcp |
| 18:05.23 | abrotman | emacs .. nice stuff .. heheh :) |
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| 18:08.12 | abrotman | Lisper: there is compiz in lenny |
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| 18:12.25 | xingu | too... much... goose... |
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| 18:13.39 | xingu | grfnhmmm |
| 18:13.43 | Lisper | abrotman: I know... but even though I switch to the lenny compiz repo, purge the compiz etch ones, and reinstall, it's still screwed up |
| 18:14.08 | abrotman | ok |
| 18:14.12 | Lisper | only way I could get it working is sticking to etch |
| 18:14.19 | Lisper | or using kubuntu |
| 18:14.20 | Lisper | lol |
| 18:14.23 | Lisper | damn |
| 18:14.27 | f00bar80 | wols_: must i remove the dnsmaq to not conflict with bind ? |
| 18:14.30 | Lisper | I don't want to use kubuntu |
| 18:14.54 | wols_ | f00bar80: you need to remove one of them yes. or both |
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| 18:15.03 | wols_ | cause I doubt you need your own auth dns server |
| 18:15.25 | wols_ | Lisper: screwed up how? |
| 18:15.50 | f00bar80 | wols_: why both ? must i not have a dns daemon on the debian box ? |
| 18:16.25 | Lisper | wols_: windows countents don't refresh unless I move them. Let's say I type something in a konsole, nothing is shown. If I move it or click on the window it is refreshed and I see what I wrote |
| 18:16.30 | wols_ | f00bar80: no |
| 18:17.50 | Lisper | wols_: it get's screwed up as soon as I use lenny's glibc no matter if I switch to the compiz lenny repo and reinstall compiz |
| 18:18.01 | Lisper | really weird |
| 18:18.25 | Lisper | I screwed my debian up yesterday trying this, that, etc |
| 18:18.54 | Lisper | that's just cause I wanted emacs22. No problem now. Using a backport |
| 18:19.54 | oye | Do I need only the first DVD for a fresh install including KDE? |
| 18:20.32 | Lisper | oye: I guess, but why don't you use a netinstall and download *only* what you need? |
| 18:21.05 | wols_ | oye: there is a CD1 with KDE |
| 18:21.08 | wols_ | but netinstal > * |
| 18:21.15 | Lisper | downloading 4.4GiB when you just want a few hundred MiBs does not make much sense |
| 18:21.30 | Lisper | not for me at least |
| 18:21.54 | Lisper | wols_: what did you mean with '> *'? |
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| 18:22.42 | wols_ | better than. irc slang |
| 18:22.49 | Lisper | ah |
| 18:22.52 | Lisper | nice |
| 18:22.57 | hoxu | Lisper, he means greater than all files in his current working directory |
| 18:23.20 | Lisper | nice explanation, thanks hoxu |
| 18:23.26 | oye | I already have the debian installed, and yes using the netinst, as always did (: But some people get the DVDs from linux magazines, and not all these magazines ship the netinst image |
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| 18:23.45 | oye | but I think I'm gonna google it anyway :P |
| 18:24.08 | Lisper | oye: don't tell me you are gonna put a debian cd in a magazine? |
| 18:24.12 | Lisper | lol |
| 18:24.20 | Lisper | send one here pal |
| 18:24.24 | Lisper | :P |
| 18:24.50 | oye | Lisper: hehe, no, I'm subscried to linux magazines, though (: |
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| 18:25.35 | nicehat | hi evryone |
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| 18:26.04 | Lisper | it looks so freakin weird to me when someone writes a flipped smiley.. |
| 18:26.10 | Lisper | lol |
| 18:26.12 | bolt | 0193 335 2000 <-- does that look like a phone number to any of you? a guy at Belkin support told me to call that number, but I can't figure out which country he wants me to call... |
| 18:26.31 | PiousMinion | If the debian package is version "2.6.10+1.6.10-3"... what version is the app? |
| 18:26.48 | Lisper | 1.6? |
| 18:26.55 | Lisper | hmm |
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| 18:27.28 | PiousMinion | I'm pretty sure it's not 3.12.17. heh |
| 18:28.28 | abrotman | PiousMinion: which package? |
| 18:28.43 | PiousMinion | abrotman: hpijs |
| 18:28.51 | abrotman | !info hpijs etch |
| 18:28.51 | PiousMinion | ..etch |
| 18:28.55 | dpkg | hpijs: (HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS driver (hpijs)), section text, is optional. Version: 2.6.10+1.6.10-3 (etch), Packaged size: 340 kB, Installed size: 708 kB |
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| 18:29.20 | PiousMinion | I clearly do not understand the version number, |
| 18:29.22 | abrotman | i'd say 1.6.20 |
| 18:29.26 | abrotman | erm .10 |
| 18:29.26 | PiousMinion | thanks |
| 18:29.30 | f00bar80 | wols_: which IP i have to give to apache now on the winbox to get working as before ? |
| 18:30.07 | wols_ | f00bar80: has nothing to do with what IP there is. you need to portforward port 80 on debian |
| 18:30.38 | xingu | bolt: uk - +44 |
| 18:30.49 | bolt | xingu: ah. thanks |
| 18:30.56 | xingu | bolt: northhamptonshire |
| 18:31.02 | f00bar80 | wols_: portforword to which IP ? |
| 18:31.20 | abrotman | xingu: wtf is +1992 ? |
| 18:31.37 | wols_ | to your new windows IP |
| 18:32.01 | wols_ | portforward from the router to debian, and debian portfoward to the windows box. 2 portforwaardings |
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| 18:32.02 | f00bar80 | wols_: from the debian box what's the inside/outside IPs ? |
| 18:32.16 | wols_ | outside is the 10.x.x.x inside is the 192.x.x.x |
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| 18:33.46 | f00bar80 | wols_: i'm running this from the debian box |
| 18:34.07 | wols_ | ok, then you need to do portforwarding on the cable modem router |
| 18:34.19 | wols_ | not a debian question. to the 10.x.x.x IP |
| 18:34.43 | xingu | abrotman: e.164 - no country code for +19, suspect that's bogus or badly delimited? |
| 18:35.03 | f00bar80 | wols_: the router is connected to the debian box 10.0.0.1 and the apache is on the winbox wlan 192.168.0.1 |
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| 18:35.33 | abrotman | xingu: nfc .. but they sent a text msg to my phone :) |
| 18:35.37 | bravvve | hello |
| 18:35.56 | wols_ | f00bar80: then I told you what to do earlier |
| 18:36.32 | f00bar80 | wols_: outside is 10.0.0.1 or 10.x.x.x ? |
| 18:36.44 | wols_ | 10.0.0.1 |
| 18:36.46 | xingu | abrotman: something that short would be the smsc then - you're dealing with an operator's own pink contract |
| 18:37.36 | f00bar80 | wols_: unable to add the specified nat entry |
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| 18:38.00 | edistar | how can I install mkfs.vfat? I don't seem to have it on my system.. |
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| 18:38.48 | bravvve | give me the link please i wan post some thing |
| 18:38.49 | limaunion | am i the only one getting an empty page while trying to access forums.debian.net ? |
| 18:39.05 | truz_`24 | edistar: I have it in my default install... |
| 18:39.11 | edistar | truz_`24: lenny? |
| 18:39.14 | HardDisk_WP | does anyone know how to select only the kernel modules needed? |
| 18:39.16 | HardDisk_WP | i mean |
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| 18:39.23 | abrotman | xingu: there was more .. i just didn't think i twas important :) |
| 18:39.24 | HardDisk_WP | i have bunch of HW loaded and working |
| 18:39.30 | HardDisk_WP | and i have kernel source |
| 18:39.44 | HardDisk_WP | and i want to have only those drivers in it which are active at this moment |
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| 18:40.06 | HardDisk_WP | how do i now tell menuconfig (or other kernel configurer) to enable _only_ those modules? |
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| 18:40.46 | wols_ | by configuring it manually |
| 18:40.56 | wols_ | not "m" but "*" for only those you use |
| 18:41.09 | bravvve | You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.18-5-686 kernel installed.??? |
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| 18:41.26 | HardDisk_WP | wols_, yes, but this takes ages |
| 18:41.37 | HardDisk_WP | no way of automating? |
| 18:41.42 | limaunion | edistar, 'sudo apt-get install dosfstools' |
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| 18:41.55 | wols_ | HardDisk_WP: the sooner you start the sooner oyu finish |
| 18:42.02 | bravvve | You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.18-5-686 kernel installed.??? what mean?N |
| 18:42.05 | HardDisk_WP | :p |
| 18:42.06 | HardDisk_WP | thanks |
| 18:42.20 | wols_ | bravvve: it means you shouldn't compile stuff from outside debian |
| 18:42.23 | joti | anyone tried uvesafb in here? |
| 18:43.00 | bravvve | wols give me the link to post the hol message |
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| 18:43.33 | jamesd_ | y |
| 18:43.39 | jamesd_ | oops |
| 18:43.47 | Ronin | !tell bravvve about paste |
| 18:43.52 | edistar | limaunion: thx |
| 18:43.53 | kickback | how do i add an explicit rule in the outgoing chain to allow packets with a source port of 20 (ftp-data) and a destination port of 1024-65535 to get ssl to work with proftpd |
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| 18:44.34 | bravvve | thanks |
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| 18:44.41 | kickback | any iptables guru's here :) |
| 18:44.58 | Ronin | kickback: #iptables has one or two |
| 18:45.09 | kickback | oh, ok |
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| 18:46.52 | xingu | right, time for cheesecake, and port |
| 18:47.11 | bravvve | so can any one help me? |
| 18:47.31 | Ronin | bravvve: didnt wols_ tell you something when you asked? |
| 18:48.06 | bravvve | he did but i did not understend ,am new be |
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| 18:49.03 | wols_ | bravvve: what are you trying to compile? |
| 18:49.20 | bravvve | zaptel |
| 18:49.45 | wols_ | !info zaptel-source etch |
| 18:49.47 | bravvve | there is a problem in make linux26 |
| 18:49.49 | wols_ | it's in debian |
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| 18:49.52 | dpkg | zaptel-source: (Zapata telephony interface (source code for kernel driver)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.11.dfsg-1 (etch), Packaged size: 902 kB, Installed size: 1064 kB |
| 18:50.11 | doxtor | does anyone know why ding won't start up or log the failure? |
| 18:50.33 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 18:50.35 | bravvve | i have just cd1..5 |
| 18:51.01 | TrueDD | Merry Christmas |
| 18:51.25 | wols_ | bravvve: you are ont he internet right now so you can download the package. QED |
| 18:51.25 | Ronin | bravvve: and you dont want to use the zaptel all ready in debian? |
| 18:51.27 | white_eagle | !ping |
| 18:51.28 | dpkg | pong |
| 18:52.24 | bravvve | 15kb/s |
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| 18:53.48 | bravvve | but can u where is the problem |
| 18:53.54 | bravvve | tell me |
| 18:54.50 | bravvve | am traing to install asterisk from yesterday |
| 18:55.11 | Vasistha | so, I think I am getting very close to having a working initrd! I just need to get a few more things into this fs image: /sbin/cryptsetup, /sbin/dmsetup, /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/kernel/crypto |
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| 18:56.20 | Ronin | bravvve: just use the net and be patient i say |
| 18:57.15 | wols_ | considering the time you've been here already, you could have downlaoded it already I guess |
| 18:57.38 | Ronin | especially since youve been trying since yesterday to install asterisk |
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| 18:59.04 | bravvve | how ronin |
| 18:59.47 | Vasistha | yes, how do I be patient? (heh :) |
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| 19:00.58 | bravvve | Ronin:how can i download it? |
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| 19:02.11 | Vasistha | woowoo! I think I got it! time to test..... |
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| 19:05.19 | Vasistha | crappity crap. I guess I forgot my password :| but at least I'm being prompted for it! |
| 19:05.26 | bravvve | well i can't install it |
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| 19:06.12 | ia64 | guys, any idea how I can create non-English directory names? |
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| 19:06.23 | Vasistha | ia64: try 'mkdir' |
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| 19:07.19 | Vasistha | thanks, all, for the wonderful help... wonder if I wrote that password down somewhere... |
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| 19:07.37 | wols_ | bravvve: packages.debian.org you can get it there |
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| 19:09.15 | hdevalence | I'm having problems with sound. I installed using dpkg's alsa install instructions. That went fine. Then I tried doing alsaconf as root. That went fine. But my sound still doesn't work. |
| 19:09.45 | hdevalence | And by went fine, I mean "exited w/o an error" |
| 19:09.52 | bravvve | yes but look what hapend |
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| 19:10.21 | wols_ | bravvve: with the debian package you use module-assistant |
| 19:10.47 | bravvve | what is it? |
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| 19:11.45 | wols_ | !m-a |
| 19:11.45 | dpkg | module-assistant is probably a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or aptitude install module-assistant build-essential && m-a prepare |
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| 19:12.41 | bravvve | yes av used apt-get |
| 19:12.50 | bravvve | but it not work |
| 19:13.14 | wols_ | !doesn't work |
| 19:13.15 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 19:13.33 | wols_ | and m-a does work |
| 19:13.40 | wols_ | bravvve: what kernel. uname -a |
| 19:13.42 | bravvve | iv posted the problem |
| 19:14.07 | wols_ | what kernel? |
| 19:14.08 | bravvve | Linux debian 2.6.18-5-686 #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 00:47:00 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:14.25 | yang | Debian Logos cannot be used on other websites ? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Debian_logos |
| 19:14.36 | wols_ | ut wukk work with it, you didn't do the prepare step |
| 19:14.47 | Eclipser | which package provide X drivers for voodoo 3 2000? |
| 19:14.55 | wols_ | and you sure as heck do NOT use make linux26 with m-a as you said earlier |
| 19:15.41 | wols_ | !tell Eclipser about search |
| 19:16.33 | bravvve | wols,not understend |
| 19:16.58 | wols_ | 19:49 < bravvve> there is a problem in make linux26 |
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| 19:17.18 | wols_ | if you really did use m-a as the factoid told yu you wouldn't run make, so you don't do what the factoid tells you |
| 19:18.14 | bravvve | factoid? |
| 19:18.35 | bravvve | and m-a? |
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| 19:20.47 | bravvve | make clean, make linux26 this is what iv done |
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| 19:21.52 | wols_ | bravvve: and that is wrong as the factoid told you |
| 19:22.03 | wols_ | !tell bravvve about m-a |
| 19:22.17 | yigal | does anyone here use newsbeuter or have a recommendation for an alternatives cli rss feed reader? |
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| 19:23.09 | bravvve | ok ok |
| 19:23.22 | bravvve | and now what can i do? |
| 19:23.35 | bravvve | :( |
| 19:23.58 | yigal | cry? |
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| 19:24.15 | bravvve | no no |
| 19:25.27 | yigal | bravvve: are you trying to build a custom kernel? |
| 19:25.35 | bravvve | no |
| 19:25.40 | yigal | module/ |
| 19:25.43 | bravvve | not yet |
| 19:25.46 | yigal | ok |
| 19:25.59 | yigal | I came in a bit late to your problem |
| 19:26.08 | bravvve | i v done this with mandriva some day and it did not work |
| 19:26.10 | wols_ | bravvve: you can follow the factoid you got a 2nd time already |
| 19:26.22 | wols_ | if you don't want to: your choice |
| 19:26.49 | bravvve | what is the factoid |
| 19:27.02 | yigal | wols_: what happened to your _ ghost? |
| 19:27.18 | white_eagle | !you cunt |
| 19:27.22 | wols_ | yigal: nonseical |
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| 19:27.28 | wols_ | *nonsensical |
| 19:27.46 | yigal | wols_: you chose your name wols_ not wols on purpose? |
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| 19:28.35 | bravvve | is it an inteligent agent? |
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| 19:30.08 | gigo | I did aptitude install compiz. now where can I find it in the applications menu? I am not getting it. how to start compiz and get 3 d rotating cubes? |
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| 19:30.27 | hdevalence | gigo: try compiz --replace |
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| 19:30.42 | gigo | hdevalence: didn't understand |
| 19:31.02 | wols_ | yigal: no |
| 19:31.18 | hdevalence | gigo: do Alt+F2 or on the cli run "compiz --replace" |
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| 19:31.49 | bravvve | can any one help me |
| 19:32.32 | gigo | i can't access websites now |
| 19:32.36 | gigo | can I paste output in #flood? |
| 19:32.41 | gigo | would someone chek |
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| 19:51.57 | robin | hi ... |
| 19:52.31 | bravvve | hi |
| 19:52.50 | robin | I seem to have *almost* got this wpa_supplicant ting to go, it connects and auths, if I run with a few command line arguments |
| 19:53.06 | robin | but, not when i do an ifup eth2 |
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| 19:53.30 | robin | and ... i cant get it o go with dhcp either |
| 19:54.37 | robin | wpa_supplicant -d -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -i eth2 is the commanline im using |
| 19:54.46 | hdevalence | my wireless card isn't showing up in ifconfig |
| 19:55.31 | wols_ | hdevalence: ifconfig -a |
| 19:55.55 | robin | if i miss off the -Dwext then it doens t work, so, im guessing that needs to go in the config some place |
| 19:56.02 | wols_ | robin: how do you start thw wpa from /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 19:56.03 | hdevalence | wols_: Still not there. |
| 19:56.14 | wols_ | hdevalence: what NIC? |
| 19:56.30 | robin | wols_, no, i run that cmd, then do an ifup eth2 |
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| 19:57.09 | robin | cmd from an xterm |
| 19:57.29 | hdevalence | wols_: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. It's there in lspci |
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| 19:57.39 | wols_ | robin: man interfaces. there are pre-up scripts you can run |
| 19:57.47 | wols_ | !3945 |
| 19:57.49 | robin | ah, righty |
| 19:57.54 | wols_ | !ipw3945 |
| 19:57.54 | dpkg | If you're running a recent version of Debian (etch or greater), do the following: add <contrib> and <non-free> entries in your sources.list, "aptitude update && aptitude install ipw3945-modules-$(uname -r) firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d && modprobe ipw3945". |
| 19:58.08 | robin | works ok |
| 19:58.22 | expose | Is there a way to effectively use the NX bit finally added to later x86 CPUs with debian packages? |
| 19:58.28 | hdevalence | it was either that or skectchy dell wireless. |
| 19:58.35 | wols_ | expose: use how? |
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| 19:59.05 | wols_ | expose: http://d-sbd.alioth.debian.org/www/?page=pax for example |
| 19:59.06 | expose | Well, as an NX bit, of course. using it as a regular register is not that big of a deal afaik. |
| 19:59.27 | wols_ | I know what the NX bit is |
| 20:00.36 | bravvve | FATAL: Module ipw3945 not found |
| 20:00.52 | jelly-home | I get a nice segfault: message in kern.log when an app segfaults now that it's enabled. Other than that, I don't see that the apps actually die in any different way |
| 20:00.56 | robin | one other thing .... using vi ... arrow keys work fine to move cursor .. right until i enter isnert mode, then it all goes pants, arrow keys generate new lines and odd chars, any clues? |
| 20:01.01 | expose | okay, so there is no complete apt repository compiled for that yet. |
| 20:01.14 | wols_ | expose: it doesn't have to |
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| 20:01.20 | wols_ | expose: that's the point of NX |
| 20:01.26 | jelly-home | robin: that's normal for vi. vim, on the other hand, works differently. |
| 20:01.30 | expose | Hm. |
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| 20:01.53 | wols_ | bravvve: zaptel is not an intel wlan chip and you haven't read the factoid dpkg pasted.as usual |
| 20:02.04 | expose | then i need to read my docs again :-) |
| 20:02.28 | wols_ | nx just ends a program if it violates the NX bit in a datasegement |
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| 20:03.06 | jelly-home | wols_: interesting that that page doesn't refer to grsecurity patchset in any way |
| 20:04.16 | jelly-home | PaX is a (the?) major feature of grsecurity |
| 20:04.58 | bravvve | wols factiod don't aswar for the zaptel |
| 20:05.06 | rbw | Hello |
| 20:05.20 | jelly-home | wols_: also, "PaX currently only utilizes NX on 64bit kernels" (quoted from http://www.grsecurity.net/news.php#celeronnx) |
| 20:05.36 | wols_ | bardun: since you didn't even do what the factoid told you, I don't give a fuck. I can be as indifferent and lazy as you are. you will see I can even beat you there. have a nice day |
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| 20:06.48 | expose | ah - that leads to the next thing: how to compile a 64bit .24 kernel on a 32bit system? there is no longer a "64bit kernel" option... |
| 20:07.39 | wols_ | why does it have to be a .24 kernel? |
| 20:07.56 | expose | well, because earlier versions still have that option. |
| 20:08.03 | wols_ | what option? |
| 20:08.15 | f00bar80 | i'm using debian-sarge , i'm asking how to identify by what are my internet bandwidth used |
| 20:08.16 | wols_ | fyi: .24 is not in debian. ask ##kernel |
| 20:08.25 | hdevalence | ist it just me or is http://forums.debian.net down? |
| 20:08.30 | wols_ | f00bar80: netstat, ipac-ng, etc |
| 20:09.07 | jetscreamer | so sunday hasn't changed much |
| 20:09.13 | f00bar80 | wols_: how using netstat ? |
| 20:09.28 | wols_ | netstat -an|less for example |
| 20:09.38 | jetscreamer | course it's not sunday, but close enough |
| 20:09.42 | wols_ | tho it doesN't give you amounts, but tells you what runs and accesses the internet |
| 20:09.53 | wols_ | jelly-home: bank holiday. it IS sunday legally |
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| 20:10.09 | f00bar80 | i want to know how the bandwdith is used as it can be shown from top |
| 20:10.24 | wols_ | ntop |
| 20:10.30 | wols_ | iptraf |
| 20:10.49 | jetscreamer | my car won't dpkg-reconfigure porsche .. wtf!!! |
| 20:11.33 | jelly-home | my other car also runs debian |
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| 20:12.12 | wols_ | jelly-home: lies. it's only debian based |
| 20:12.42 | jetscreamer | i knew a used transformer was a mistake |
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| 20:13.07 | debianforlife | does anyone know why the debian forums have been down for so long? |
| 20:13.25 | jetscreamer | theoretically the maintainer of the forums does.... |
| 20:13.28 | bravvve | wols i cant install /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 20:13.33 | jetscreamer | of course he's probably on holiday |
| 20:13.33 | bravvve | ops |
| 20:13.47 | jetscreamer | nobody can, bravvve |
| 20:13.51 | bravvve | i cant install asterisk |
| 20:14.00 | jetscreamer | !contrib |
| 20:14.01 | dpkg | well, contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free). To get packages in contrib, add lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free> |
| 20:14.02 | debianforlife | what, do servers not work on christmas? |
| 20:14.19 | wols_ | bravvve: considering that file is already there, you never "install" it unless you install debian itself |
| 20:14.28 | wols_ | !info asterisk etch |
| 20:14.31 | dpkg | asterisk: (Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX)), section comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.13~dfsg-2 (etch), Packaged size: 142 kB, Installed size: 408 kB |
| 20:14.31 | jetscreamer | no they worship the resurection of univac |
| 20:14.45 | wols_ | bravvve: I don't believe you since it's in etch as you can see |
| 20:14.51 | debianforlife | im making mine wore today |
| 20:15.06 | debianforlife | work |
| 20:15.42 | wols_ | debianforlife: wait for their strike when they learn others don't have to. or the might deman more electricity |
| 20:16.17 | debianforlife | my house runs on solar, that would be a bad thing... |
| 20:16.22 | bravvve | wols this is th message i get http://paste.debian.net/45552 in french |
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| 20:17.03 | f00bar80 | wols_: ntop --> http://pastebin.ca/832100 , i checked iptraf it's an interface/packets monitoring tool , i want something that shows each service using how much of the bandwidth ... |
| 20:17.29 | jetscreamer | so install it.. it being asterisk-bristuff |
| 20:17.45 | jetscreamer | !find asterisk-bristuff |
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| 20:18.04 | jetscreamer | i don't even speak french |
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| 20:19.10 | wols_ | !tell bravvve about sources.list |
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| 20:19.26 | jetscreamer | or was that a conflict |
| 20:19.31 | eagle-101 | O.o do people really join here thinking this is #ubuntu? |
| 20:19.45 | jetscreamer | this isn't the ubuntu support channel, eagle-101 ? |
| 20:19.48 | jetscreamer | omg |
| 20:19.50 | f00bar80 | wols_: ..any comment ? |
| 20:20.41 | wols_ | f00bar80: ipac-ng |
| 20:20.43 | eagle-101 | (its in the channel topic, thats all) |
| 20:20.49 | abrotman | eagle-101: yes .. they do |
| 20:21.00 | wols_ | often |
| 20:21.03 | bravvve | posted |
| 20:21.11 | bravvve | tale a look |
| 20:21.13 | xsdg | in aptitude, how do I tell what repository a specific package version is from? |
| 20:21.17 | bravvve | take a look |
| 20:21.26 | xsdg | (specifically, I want to tell if a package is from sid or experimental) |
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| 20:21.38 | wols_ | xsdg: apt-cache policy <stuff> |
| 20:21.42 | xsdg | wols_: I know |
| 20:21.44 | xsdg | wols_: in aptitude? |
| 20:21.46 | jetscreamer | so wtf is this asterisk-broistuff... |
| 20:21.50 | jetscreamer | bri |
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| 20:22.15 | f00bar80 | wols_: i installed , but how to use it ? |
| 20:22.29 | wols_ | f00bar80: by reading docs |
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| 20:22.37 | jetscreamer | ah... it's not in sid |
| 20:22.40 | jetscreamer | but is in etch |
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| 20:25.21 | jetscreamer | for that asterisk, fix-unmet would fix him up i bet |
| 20:25.27 | jetscreamer | (note the poetry) |
| 20:25.36 | jetscreamer | ok doggerel |
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| 20:25.39 | jetscreamer | al |
| 20:26.10 | wols_ | jetscreamer: he isntalled from CD... and has only CD sources probably |
| 20:26.11 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 20:26.11 | dpkg | run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once, then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, DON'T edit sources, DON'T select anything, just go to option 1 (update sources) and JUST HIT ENTER a lot until you exit... you may have to hit y or n somewhere. Also, if you've never run dselect, you may have to use option 0 and choose APT Acquisition. |
| 20:26.30 | jetscreamer | but alsa-bork is gone :( oh well |
| 20:26.57 | cqnqrd | hi ... someone has there a G9? |
| 20:27.27 | wols_ | !anyone use a g9 |
| 20:27.27 | dpkg | No, no one uses a g9, not even the people who use it. |
| 20:27.44 | jetscreamer | i worked in g4, does that count? |
| 20:28.04 | cqnqrd | mh |
| 20:28.18 | cqnqrd | maiby... have you some problems with keys / buttons ? |
| 20:28.30 | jetscreamer | none |
| 20:28.44 | cqnqrd | hm |
| 20:29.05 | cqnqrd | ok thanks, good evening |
| 20:29.14 | jetscreamer | you can ask again in a bit |
| 20:29.24 | jetscreamer | maybe some smarter person will show up |
| 20:29.29 | cqnqrd | yes, try in 1 h |
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| 20:29.45 | jetscreamer | there's also ##linux, and other channels to ask in |
| 20:29.48 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 20:29.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 20:29.48 | cqnqrd | i hope :) |
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| 20:31.17 | jetscreamer | try describing your specific problem |
| 20:31.31 | jetscreamer | not just ask if anybody has some certain hw |
| 20:32.06 | cqnqrd | ok, i'll describe it when i'll ask one more time :) |
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| 20:34.57 | naturesss | soure list for hardy ? |
| 20:35.05 | stew | naturesss: ask #ubuntu |
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| 20:37.12 | f00bar80 | how to use iptraf to know my bandwidth efective rate |
| 20:37.39 | vonnis | how can i delet multile files in the shell? |
| 20:37.51 | StyXman | where else could one find activity if not here... merry christmas you all! I messed up a little with permissions. is there any way to restore them from the .debs? |
| 20:38.04 | StyXman | vonnis: use globbing |
| 20:38.11 | stew | f00bar80: go to "detailed interface statistics' select the interface, then wait a few seconds |
| 20:38.17 | stew | vonnis: rm file1 file2 file3... |
| 20:38.54 | vonnis | so i have to typ the full filenames?? |
| 20:39.11 | StyXman | vonnis: you have tab completion |
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| 20:39.16 | stew | vonnis: what specifically are you trying to do? |
| 20:39.19 | StyXman | and you can use wildcards |
| 20:39.26 | StyXman | vonnis: rm file*.img |
| 20:39.37 | f00bar80 | stew: and how to know each service/process usage of the total bandwidth ? |
| 20:39.52 | StyXman | f00bar80: that ain't aesy |
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| 20:40.01 | vonnis | im still a noob i want to delete files that where made by the root user |
| 20:40.28 | vonnis | i cant delete them in kde |
| 20:40.37 | StyXman | vonnis: ah |
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| 20:40.47 | StyXman | you might lack of permissions |
| 20:40.51 | MrRoland | how do I search for a package? |
| 20:40.59 | StyXman | MrRoland: apt-cache search |
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| 20:41.18 | eth01 | ping |
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| 20:41.25 | StyXman | MrRoland: bah, it depends on what package manager you use |
| 20:41.33 | StyXman | eth01: poeing |
| 20:41.42 | stew | f00bar80: i don't know of a way |
| 20:41.46 | f00bar80 | stew: regarding the effective rate , it's the total rates or incoming rates ? |
| 20:41.58 | eth01 | Styxman, shh. |
| 20:42.04 | stew | f00bar80: it shows both |
| 20:42.09 | StyXman | eth01: hospital? |
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| 20:42.27 | eth01 | hospital? |
| 20:42.33 | eth01 | are you crazy? hell n |
| 20:42.35 | eth01 | no * |
| 20:42.43 | StyXman | eth01: shh (silence), hospital |
| 20:42.48 | xsdg | f00bar80: iptraf can do per-port rate monitoring. I forget what it's called, but it's the top item in the menu, I think |
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| 20:42.50 | cua0 | anyone ever seen the gcc error " C compiler cannot create executables " ? (i'm getting this when i do a ./configure. i've never seen it before, gcc is installed and seems to work elsewhere. any ideas? |
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| 20:42.56 | vonnis | can i somehow remove all files that begin whit www in one command? |
| 20:43.03 | stew | !b-e cua0 |
| 20:43.04 | dpkg | cua0: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 20:43.09 | StyXman | vonnis: rm www* |
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| 20:43.17 | xsdg | cua0: read configure.log |
| 20:43.24 | xsdg | cua0: though stew's suggestion is probably right |
| 20:43.29 | StyXman | vonnis: or sudo rm www* |
| 20:43.29 | xsdg | cua0: (it might be config.log) |
| 20:43.30 | cua0 | xsdg: i think stew's right |
| 20:43.31 | f00bar80 | xsdg: then ? |
| 20:43.31 | SamuraiDio | http://pastebin.com/d50f1fa38 <- is this because i'm compiling on a amd64 machine? |
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| 20:43.39 | cua0 | i read the config.log, all it says is the same error. lol |
| 20:43.41 | eth01 | updatedb && locate www* > results.txt && cd / |
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| 20:44.05 | StyXman | eth01: danger! |
| 20:44.30 | xsdg | f00bar80: no, looks like I'm wrong -- it does total # rather than rates |
| 20:45.27 | xsdg | SamuraiDio: you probably want to look for ASM manuals, if you wrote that |
| 20:45.34 | xsdg | SamuraiDio: but yet, assembly is not portable |
| 20:45.36 | xsdg | yes* |
| 20:45.56 | cua0 | crap, now it's asking for the os disc. :( think i can remember where i put the machine, let alone the os disc.. |
| 20:46.20 | stew | cua0: is the machine on the internet? |
| 20:46.27 | rubymonk | It's official, I will kill my employee |
| 20:46.33 | cua0 | stew: ya, not sure why it's asking for the cd.. |
| 20:46.33 | rubymonk | what's the point storing every kernel source + binary we ever had in the svn repository where we store our config files ?!!?!? |
| 20:46.36 | rubymonk | There's like hours I wait for my checkout to be done |
| 20:46.38 | xsdg | It's official, I will kill my employer |
| 20:46.55 | stew | cua0: edit /etc/apt/sources.list remove the cdrom lines and make sure you have a main mirror: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 20:46.55 | xsdg | rubymonk: err... hey :o) |
| 20:47.09 | cua0 | stew: thanks |
| 20:47.22 | xsdg | cua0: BSD fan? |
| 20:47.59 | cua0 | learned on freebsd back in 94/95 |
| 20:48.10 | xsdg | cua0: ::nod:: |
| 20:49.00 | cua0 | main reason for the name is 'cause my 486 that i used right through till 99 and ran slack on used /dev/cua0 for the rockin 9600bps modem. |
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| 20:49.18 | xsdg | oh, slack had cua0 too. interesting |
| 20:49.30 | cua0 | yea they all did until 97/98 |
| 20:49.40 | xsdg | cua0: I had an OpenBSD box which used cuaN |
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| 20:49.51 | xsdg | cua0: that would explain it; I started using linux in '99 |
| 20:50.08 | cua0 | they didn't switch over to ttySx until quite late in the game, still not sure why they bothered. |
| 20:51.44 | rubymonk | xsdg, :) |
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| 20:52.25 | cua0 | w00t, its working now! stupid cdrom |
| 20:52.50 | cua0 | yay, and the configure works too |
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| 20:58.04 | the_sniff | Not starting S.M.A.R.T. daemon smartd, disabled via /etc/default/smartmontools |
| 20:58.08 | the_sniff | i edited the file |
| 20:58.11 | the_sniff | but it still won't load |
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| 20:59.04 | valdyn | the_sniff: "/etc/init.d/smartmontools start" gives what? |
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| 20:59.16 | the_sniff | Starting S.M.A.R.T. daemon: smartd failed! |
| 20:59.30 | valdyn | the_sniff: read /var/log/daemon.log as to why it failed |
| 21:00.00 | the_sniff | Dec 25 15:58:58 green smartd[29076]: Device: /dev/sda, Bad IEC (SMART) mode page, err=5, skip device |
| 21:00.00 | the_sniff | Dec 25 15:58:58 green smartd[29076]: Unable to monitor any SMART enabled devices. Try debug (-d) option. Exiting... |
| 21:00.01 | the_sniff | ehm |
| 21:00.03 | the_sniff | lol |
| 21:00.28 | wols_ | the_sniff: what harddisk is this? model? |
| 21:00.28 | the_sniff | does this mean the device has no smarT?:S |
| 21:00.30 | valdyn | the_sniff: so sda has no functional smart and there'S no other disk |
| 21:00.48 | the_sniff | how do i check the model? |
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| 21:00.56 | wols_ | dmesg tells for example |
| 21:00.59 | the_sniff | RAID bus controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID (rev 01) |
| 21:01.08 | the_sniff | this is the RAID controller if it matters |
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| 21:01.38 | wols_ | cat /proc/ide/ide0/sda/model |
| 21:01.53 | wols_ | ah, then it's scsi |
| 21:01.58 | wols_ | find /proc -name model |
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| 21:02.42 | the_sniff | i can't paste wtf |
| 21:02.48 | the_sniff | oh lol |
| 21:02.51 | the_sniff | it begins with a slah |
| 21:02.51 | joti | does anyone know how to identify a raid controller from infortrend? |
| 21:02.58 | the_sniff | anyway sda doesn't have a model in it |
| 21:03.04 | wols_ | the_sniff: try smartctl -a -d scsi /dev/sda |
| 21:03.08 | joti | has no modelname on it |
| 21:03.12 | wols_ | joti: lspci |
| 21:03.18 | the_sniff | Device: MegaRAID LD 0 RAID1 152G Version: 713R |
| 21:03.27 | joti | hmk. |
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| 21:04.37 | the_sniff | Terminate command early due to bad response to IEC mode page |
| 21:04.39 | the_sniff | :S |
| 21:04.45 | the_sniff | what does this mean? |
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| 21:08.11 | the_sniff | oh |
| 21:08.12 | the_sniff | ok |
| 21:08.18 | the_sniff | found the solution |
| 21:08.31 | the_sniff | http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2005-December/023842.html |
| 21:08.31 | the_sniff | if anyone wonders |
| 21:08.49 | emilsedgh | anyone knows how could i restore a mailing list backup which is generated by cpanel to a Debian server which hasnt cpanel? |
| 21:10.15 | abrotman | isn't cpanel using a hacked up qmail+ezmlm ? |
| 21:11.07 | emilsedgh | i dont know really |
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| 21:11.22 | the_sniff | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-5-486 |
| 21:11.30 | the_sniff | wtf i hope im not fscking anything up :x |
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| 21:12.11 | the_sniff | why is it modifying the initrd? |
| 21:12.14 | abrotman | emilsedgh: we'd need to know what format it is now .. and which mailing list manager you want to use |
| 21:12.18 | alex_ | what is wrong with apt-get remove? I tried apt-get remove mysql and it says package not found |
| 21:12.31 | alex_ | and i can still attempt to login to mysql afterwards |
| 21:12.33 | the_sniff | you don't have it? |
| 21:12.36 | the_sniff | try mysqld |
| 21:12.37 | jetscreamer | why is initramfs-tools updating the initramdrive... good question |
| 21:12.44 | abrotman | alex_: dpkg -l mysql* |
| 21:12.46 | jetscreamer | anybody? |
| 21:13.03 | emilsedgh | abrotman: i want to use mailman, the backup was rom mailman too but the directory structure isnt like Debians Mailman (i think) i just have two directories (mm and mma) |
| 21:13.05 | jetscreamer | alex_: try apt-cache search mysql |
| 21:13.08 | the_sniff | jetscreamer: lol i was installing dmraid |
| 21:13.10 | jetscreamer | and think --purge |
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| 21:13.37 | abrotman | emilsedgh: maybe try asking #mailman .. i know that mailman in debian has a way to backup lists .. dunno about cpanel |
| 21:13.44 | the_sniff | why would it modify the initrd? |
| 21:13.58 | jetscreamer | it thought it needed to? |
| 21:14.01 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 21:14.09 | jetscreamer | i'm raid-clueless |
| 21:14.16 | emilsedgh | abrotman: i asked there too and stayed for a few hours, traffic at there is 0 |
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| 21:14.24 | the_sniff | i guess it needs to |
| 21:14.25 | the_sniff | but why : |
| 21:14.26 | the_sniff | :S |
| 21:14.34 | abrotman | emilsedgh: it's uhm .. christmas day ? |
| 21:14.39 | alex_ | hrm it's not trying to remove some of my php stuff too |
| 21:14.44 | alex_ | er now trying to* |
| 21:14.44 | emilsedgh | abrotman: youre right... |
| 21:14.50 | abrotman | i know! |
| 21:15.10 | xsdg | man... nothing'll get your heart thumping like removing postgres on the wrong machine |
| 21:16.01 | jetscreamer | !sing And So This Is Christmas... |
| 21:16.01 | dpkg | jetscreamer: okay |
| 21:16.02 | xsdg | (especially when you have to find the package in snapshot.debian.net to reinstall it! :o) |
| 21:16.09 | jetscreamer | gah |
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| 21:16.24 | jetscreamer | !forget sing And So This |
| 21:16.25 | dpkg | jetscreamer: i forgot sing and so this |
| 21:16.26 | the_sniff | im so lost heh |
| 21:16.30 | the_sniff | dmraid -a n -t /dev/sda |
| 21:16.31 | the_sniff | No RAID disks and with names: "/dev/sda" |
| 21:17.00 | OleMoudi | !java |
| 21:17.01 | dpkg | i guess java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun partially released its Java implementation under the GPL on 2006-11-13. There are other implementations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>. |
| 21:17.52 | bravvve | opengl |
| 21:17.58 | pumpkin0 | i want exo-open (the thing behind launch apps in XFCE) to pass a parameter to a app. uhmm... how ? |
| 21:18.42 | the_sniff | !kaki is poop |
| 21:18.42 | dpkg | ...but kaki is already something else... |
| 21:18.43 | the_sniff | !kaki |
| 21:18.43 | dpkg | methinks kaki is yummy |
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| 21:18.48 | the_sniff | ROFL! |
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| 21:19.12 | phretor | hi there |
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| 21:19.28 | phretor | parted experts? |
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| 21:20.16 | jetscreamer | yes i am... don't touch it. |
| 21:20.24 | phretor | jetscreamer: lol |
| 21:20.26 | jetscreamer | dd the drive and start clean |
| 21:20.36 | jetscreamer | backup first eh |
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| 21:21.46 | jetscreamer | i can't boot linux :( |
| 21:21.47 | bravvve | wols_ after 2 hours i start downloading asterisk-bristuff |
| 21:21.53 | jetscreamer | yay |
| 21:22.11 | jetscreamer | yay@bravv |
| 21:22.13 | jetscreamer | e |
| 21:22.18 | jetscreamer | ve even |
| 21:22.27 | the_sniff | ok |
| 21:22.30 | the_sniff | fsck raid! |
| 21:22.33 | vonnis | hey i want to whatch youtube movies. i got amd64 etch and there is no flash availble for. i download gnash but inside the tar.gz file there where .h filles and in the documentation it says i need to compile. is there another way to install gnash because i dont think im skilled enough for that yet |
| 21:22.34 | bravvve | jetscreamer what |
| 21:22.44 | OleMoudi | how can I "unexport" some env variable just for a tty? |
| 21:22.54 | phretor | well, experts or not: http://pastie.caboo.se/132089 it seems that parted cannot edit the partition table of my USB2.0 connected hard-drive. Ideas? |
| 21:22.56 | jetscreamer | vonnis: i found that the vlc plugin enabled me to watch youtube, iirc |
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| 21:23.12 | jetscreamer | bravvve: just yay you started installing that package |
| 21:23.52 | jetscreamer | phretor: i've not had a problem with cfdisk or fdisk on usb drives |
| 21:23.55 | jetscreamer | all i know |
| 21:24.18 | SPF | how can I transform a string into hex (for debugging purposes) like echo "foo" | to_hex |
| 21:24.24 | bravvve | jetscreamer ok |
| 21:24.37 | phretor | jetscreamer: fdisk does create ext2 part/fs - however, they seem broken as they can't be mounted - I'll try cfdisk |
| 21:24.39 | jetscreamer | spf there is a command line thing for that but i forget the name |
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| 21:25.00 | jetscreamer | phretor: you have to mkfs the partition after you create it |
| 21:25.17 | phretor | jetscreamer: oh, how am I lame :D |
| 21:25.31 | jetscreamer | mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.jfs or whatever |
| 21:25.38 | EruditeHermit | hi, I have 2 machines and one of them allows me to eject things in /dev/ such as my ipod as a normal user but the other one only allows root user. can anyone help me to get it to allow normal users to eject? |
| 21:25.42 | jetscreamer | mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda3 or so |
| 21:25.58 | the_sniff | Why did dmraid change my initrd? when i removed it it didn't undo the changes |
| 21:26.14 | the_sniff | and i not going to be able to reload the server if i shutdown? :'( |
| 21:26.18 | jetscreamer | EruditeHermit: not sure but maybe you need pmount on the other to umount them as user before they can be ejectd.. just a guess |
| 21:26.35 | jetscreamer | or check fstab for user vs users |
| 21:27.19 | jetscreamer | the_sniff: maybe update-initramfs -u .. i think that's the command |
| 21:27.58 | EruditeHermit | jetscreamer: I don't have anything in fstab for usb devices |
| 21:28.14 | phretor | jetscreamer: and, how do you change the disk label from bsd to msdos? |
| 21:28.20 | the_sniff | jetscreamer and there's no way it fsck it up? cause i don't feel like goind to the server farm at 23:30 :( |
| 21:28.24 | jetscreamer | i don't grok that automount stuff |
| 21:28.42 | jetscreamer | no idea, the_sniff ... |
| 21:28.50 | the_sniff | what does update-initramfs do? |
| 21:28.54 | jetscreamer | phretor: cfdisk and change type to 83 |
| 21:28.59 | jetscreamer | updates the initrd |
| 21:29.04 | the_sniff | and is there any way to test my rd? |
| 21:29.11 | jetscreamer | or use fdisk |
| 21:29.34 | jetscreamer | no idea the_sniff |
| 21:29.57 | the_sniff | :() |
| 21:30.02 | jetscreamer | have a backup kernel in menu.lst i hope |
| 21:30.09 | EruditeHermit | jetscreamer: pmount is already installed |
| 21:30.20 | jetscreamer | EruditeHermit: beyond my skillset then |
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| 21:30.39 | jetscreamer | EruditeHermit: it 'might' be a group somebody's not a member of, but no idea |
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| 21:31.23 | itchi | Is there some stuff for tomtom GPS? I don't find anythings :-( |
| 21:31.25 | EruditeHermit | jetscreamer: they are both members of plugdev |
| 21:31.36 | EruditeHermit | jetscreamer: its the eject that isn't working |
| 21:31.41 | EruditeHermit | jetscreamer: umount is working |
| 21:31.46 | vonnis | why does this say woody in the sources before 'main' ? (i got etch) http://www.videolan.org/doc/vlc-user-guide/en/ch07.html |
| 21:31.52 | vonnis | does it matter? |
| 21:31.56 | jetscreamer | woody was pre-etch |
| 21:32.04 | jetscreamer | change the word woody to etch |
| 21:32.17 | jetscreamer | oh hey |
| 21:32.17 | vonnis | okay |
| 21:32.28 | jetscreamer | just install vlc from regular sources maybe |
| 21:32.29 | vonnis | yes? |
| 21:32.32 | itchi | vonnis: They may need to update the docs it seems |
| 21:32.42 | jetscreamer | it's probably in contrib |
| 21:32.47 | jetscreamer | or on marillat's |
| 21:32.52 | jetscreamer | !debian-multimedia |
| 21:32.52 | dpkg | hmm... debian-multimedia is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for various legal reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add APT sources, ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch>. |
| 21:32.53 | vonnis | how do you mean regular sources |
| 21:33.00 | jetscreamer | !sources.list |
| 21:33.00 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "apt-get update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 21:33.20 | jetscreamer | !info vlc |
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| 21:33.25 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player and streamer), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.6.c-4 (sid), Packaged size: 1114 kB, Installed size: 3064 kB |
| 21:33.32 | itchi | Will be sad if i need to power on a satanic virtual computer for that tomtom stuff |
| 21:33.39 | jetscreamer | !find vlc-plugin |
| 21:33.40 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'vlc-plugin' (7): vlc-plugin-alsa ;; vlc-plugin-arts ;; vlc-plugin-esd ;; vlc-plugin-ggi ;; vlc-plugin-glide ;; vlc-plugin-sdl ;; vlc-plugin-svgalib. |
| 21:33.46 | itchi | It's even not noted WinCrap only on the box :-( |
| 21:34.23 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search vlc|less |
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| 21:35.34 | itchi | Well, linux+tomtom give as first result: TomTom GO uses version 2.6.13 of the Linux kernel, with modifications by TomTom, which provide drivers for the specific TomTom GO hardware. ... |
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| 21:35.37 | vonnis | it found all sorts of vlc |
| 21:35.58 | jetscreamer | ok so instal whatever you want |
| 21:36.15 | vonnis | i need something to play youtube movies |
| 21:36.37 | jetscreamer | try... |
| 21:36.46 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search vlc|grep mozilla |
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| 21:37.04 | vonnis | i dont have firefox only iceweasel and konquerer |
| 21:37.18 | jetscreamer | iceweasel == mozilla for these purposes |
| 21:37.25 | jetscreamer | and or ff |
| 21:38.41 | vonnis | it says this in my shell mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC |
| 21:38.44 | zinx | iceweasel != mozilla. but firefox, sure :P |
| 21:38.49 | Claudio32m | can someone access a windows computer on a lan through ssh or other means if there's no ssh or ftp server running on the windows computer? |
| 21:39.04 | zinx | oh, plugins? yeah. in that case mozilla too. |
| 21:39.10 | jetscreamer | same for 'this' purpose yes :) |
| 21:39.13 | debianforlife | Claudio32m: no |
| 21:39.17 | zinx | sorry :x |
| 21:39.19 | Claudio32m | debianforlife - thanks |
| 21:39.23 | jetscreamer | ok install that, iirc that one did youtube for me |
| 21:39.35 | vonnis | how do i install the thing |
| 21:39.45 | jetscreamer | apt-get install <packagename> |
| 21:39.54 | jetscreamer | as root, or use sudo |
| 21:39.58 | jetscreamer | or synaptic |
| 21:40.07 | jetscreamer | or some other package manager |
| 21:40.15 | jetscreamer | make that aptitude instead of apt-get btw |
| 21:40.26 | jetscreamer | but either way |
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| 21:41.07 | vonnis | whats the package name? vlc|grep ? |
| 21:41.20 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.41 | jetscreamer | mozilla-plugin-vlc |
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| 21:42.04 | jetscreamer | you might install the mplayer one also |
| 21:42.29 | jetscreamer | you might want to install the mplayer one also, rather |
| 21:42.47 | r-wolf | why does gnome terminal always open @ 80x25? is it possible to get it remember the last size at next launch? |
| 21:42.49 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search mplayer|grep mozilla |
| 21:43.13 | abrotman | r-wolf: you can probably change the parameters it launches with |
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| 21:43.22 | SPF | jetscreamer: it works with hexdump `echo "foo" | hexdump` |
| 21:43.38 | jetscreamer | under default settings or default session, iirc |
| 21:43.41 | jetscreamer | cool |
| 21:43.47 | tarzeau | abrotman: can you tell a christmas fairy tale please? |
| 21:43.53 | vonnis | you guys are great |
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| 21:44.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: Once upon a time, there was a pig named Carl. Then Christmas came, and Carl was served. The End. |
| 21:44.31 | jetscreamer | once upon a time, there were two happy happy guys |
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| 21:44.43 | jetscreamer | they met on xmas |
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| 21:45.04 | jetscreamer | they killed carl. |
| 21:45.09 | jetscreamer | and got full. |
| 21:45.22 | jetscreamer | then they had sex in carl's blood. |
| 21:45.42 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 21:45.49 | abrotman | r-wolf: gnome-terminal --geometry=160x48 |
| 21:45.55 | vonnis | but i still cant whatch youtube i just installed mozilla-plugin-vlc and vlc |
| 21:46.03 | simonrvn | if carl was a moose, then i'd eat him |
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| 21:46.05 | vonnis | whit iceweasel |
| 21:46.21 | jetscreamer | vonnis: it worked for me, all i know. :( must be some different format |
| 21:46.22 | r-wolf | abrotman: thanks |
| 21:46.32 | jetscreamer | worked for me on youtube i mean |
| 21:46.36 | abrotman | simonrvn: what if he were a boar? |
| 21:46.43 | tarzeau | simonrvn: but sheep? cows? fish? |
| 21:46.48 | simonrvn | i'd give him to you to eat |
| 21:46.48 | jetscreamer | he's still be a swine |
| 21:47.17 | Lukemob | hello guys. I'd need an advice... I'm setting up a server, and I'm at the step with creating own dns servers... i've a domain gamesdesign.org and I'd like to have the servers ns1.gamesdesign.org and ns2.gamesdesign.org |
| 21:47.30 | simonrvn | tarzeau: i stay away from beef at all costs, sheep/lamb, fish, country food, of course |
| 21:47.32 | Lukemob | i have created already an A records of ns1 and ns2 at the domain provider |
| 21:47.43 | Lukemob | and forwarded to my ip of the server |
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| 21:48.10 | jetscreamer | vonnis: you might check the plugin repository on mozilla.com |
| 21:48.13 | Lukemob | the server is under the router, with firewall ... I have opened the port 113 and 53 |
| 21:48.18 | jetscreamer | or .org or wherever it is |
| 21:48.27 | tarzeau | streuner: are you far from mannheim, rhein/neckar? |
| 21:48.37 | tarzeau | streuner: what should one visit/do over there? |
| 21:48.58 | Lukemob | now, I just wanna ask, should I use ns1.gamesdesign.org or an extern IP of the server, of an intern IP of the server while setting the ns records at dns? |
| 21:49.12 | vonnis | where can i find the plugin in iceweasel? maybe i have to turn it on |
| 21:49.25 | jetscreamer | about:plugins in the addressbar, iirc |
| 21:49.25 | tarzeau | vonnis: it just works here |
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| 21:50.09 | Lukemob | any advice, guys? |
| 21:52.21 | jetscreamer | you want ns1 as an alias, so if you ever want to change ip's/boxes for the dns server you just point the ns1 record at the new host |
| 21:52.39 | jetscreamer | i may be using the wrong wrods |
| 21:52.42 | jetscreamer | words |
| 21:53.21 | streuner | tarzeau: dunno Mannheim/Ludwigshafen very well... |
| 21:53.40 | tarzeau | streuner: but you're from .de :) |
| 21:53.48 | tarzeau | streuner: very far from you? |
| 21:53.57 | jetscreamer | and have ns1.whatever.com listed in the root servers |
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| 21:54.33 | ^Cobra^ | hey, i'm from mannheim |
| 21:55.08 | streuner | tarzeau: about 80 km |
| 21:55.19 | tarzeau | streuner: that's not even far |
| 21:55.32 | jetscreamer | but it is too far to know details, unless you go there often |
| 21:55.59 | jetscreamer | i 'know' this town 20 miles away, but i couldn't tell you what's in it.. i can get around inside of it though |
| 21:56.19 | streuner | tarzeau: this region has about 2 million people, you surely find everything what you interested in |
| 21:56.33 | tarzeau | streuner: great :) |
| 21:56.42 | jetscreamer | so that means: there are no interesting landmarks don't waste your time |
| 21:56.44 | jetscreamer | :p |
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| 21:56.55 | jetscreamer | or he'd maybe have one to toss out |
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| 21:58.29 | jetscreamer | how about: 'any good breweries around there?' |
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| 21:59.34 | Ronin | jetscreamer: always a good brewery |
| 21:59.53 | Vejeta | Hi people, is there in debian a package for libc6 or libthreads without TLS? |
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| 22:01.10 | SPF | thx to hexdump my script is now workind :D |
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| 22:03.58 | cisko | how do you mount a CD? |
| 22:04.06 | Ronin | !mount |
| 22:04.07 | dpkg | [mount] a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem |
| 22:04.11 | Ronin | bah |
| 22:04.24 | cisko | im pretty sure my CD is /dev/hdc |
| 22:04.41 | cisko | it asks for a filesystem type |
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| 22:05.01 | cisko | im not familiar with the type of filesystem my DVD has |
| 22:05.13 | Vejeta | iso9660 probably |
| 22:05.41 | cisko | mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom |
| 22:05.50 | cisko | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, |
| 22:07.00 | Vejeta | either the dvd is wrong burnt, or hardware problem. Have you tested in another machine? |
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| 22:07.19 | cisko | the DVD is fully working |
| 22:07.23 | cisko | the drive is fully working |
| 22:07.38 | cisko | but the dmesg has alot of errors from /dev/hdc |
| 22:08.24 | Lukemob | jetscreamer, I just wanna know, how to set up the DNS... they're asking for Primary name server: I put here " ns1.domain.com " |
| 22:08.25 | Lukemob | am not sure |
| 22:08.30 | Lukemob | if there shouldn't be an ip |
| 22:08.32 | Lukemob | of the serv |
| 22:09.29 | cisko | http://pastebin.com/d52b3aeb4 |
| 22:09.32 | cisko | there you go |
| 22:10.52 | rewired | Lukemob: if you try both ways you probably find out entering an ip address is the only workable option |
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| 22:13.36 | wols_ | cinap: DVDs use udf by default |
| 22:13.51 | cinap | wols_: yeah... whatever ;-) |
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| 22:15.48 | wols_ | cinap: sry, the one I replied to just vanished (cisko) |
| 22:15.51 | asda | damn internet connection |
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| 22:16.22 | cinap | wols_: no problem :-) |
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| 22:29.14 | peter86 | how to mount .bin files? |
| 22:29.49 | Eclipser | use cdemu |
| 22:30.01 | Eclipser | !cdemu |
| 22:30.02 | dpkg | CDemu is a kernel module for Linux. It is designed to simulate a CD drive + CD with just simple cue/bin files. You can use it to watch an SVCD or mount the data track of an bin/cue. You should use mplayer to watch SVCD movies stored as cue/bin file, it also supports it. http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 22:30.28 | peter86 | Eclipser, does cdemu is in debian etch repo ? |
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| 22:30.40 | bravvve | Eclipser:can you help me to get a good french java tetorial |
| 22:30.56 | Eclipser | peter86, last time (like couple of years ago) I had to compile it myself |
| 22:31.25 | Eclipser | bravvve, I don't know any (and don't assume I use java because my name looks like an editor which I *don't* use) (I do use java though :) |
| 22:31.40 | bravvve | ok |
| 22:31.53 | Eclipser | maybe someone in ##java knows |
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| 22:32.27 | Eclipser | peter86, I would guess it's not in etch because it's not in sid |
| 22:32.40 | bravvve | ok thanks |
| 22:32.41 | peter86 | mhm thanks |
| 22:32.55 | bravvve | and for the oracle? |
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| 22:37.20 | vonnis | i installed a program but i cant find it whit find how do i find it? |
| 22:37.38 | vchrizz | does someone know if routing for multiple uplinks is also possible with only one interface? like http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
| 22:37.39 | epsilon | spkg -L <package> |
| 22:37.43 | epsilon | dpkg |
| 22:38.35 | vchrizz | ah, btw wols_, i found the iptables rule :D it was $IPT -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $LOCAL_IFACE -j SNAT --to-source $INET_ADDRESS |
| 22:39.04 | vchrizz | that was all what was my error ;) |
| 22:39.22 | vchrizz | so as said, no need for a second nic ;) |
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| 22:41.51 | r-wolf | how does mc define the color scheme of file opened for editing? |
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| 22:43.18 | r-wolf | i.e. this file has to be shown as C source, and that one - as diff file |
| 22:43.36 | r-wolf | where are the settings? |
| 22:43.42 | nvz | probably has some way to change the editor |
| 22:43.55 | nvz | I havent used it in ages |
| 22:44.40 | r-wolf | well, it is built in and therefore convenient |
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| 22:45.52 | r-wolf | I lack FAR Manager so much ( |
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| 22:47.52 | timonator | !unstable |
| 22:47.52 | dpkg | hmm... unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>. |
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| 22:48.10 | timonator | hmm |
| 22:48.19 | timonator | seems discouraged to use unstable. |
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| 22:50.10 | r-wolf | merry christmas btw |
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| 22:51.07 | nvz | r-wolf: Edit editor menu file in the options menu looks like what you want |
| 22:51.38 | nvz | r-wolf: or the syntax one |
| 22:51.57 | nvz | yeah its the syntax file |
| 22:52.29 | abrotman | timonator: usually unless you're good with debian |
| 22:52.57 | timonator | i have no clue of debian tbh :| |
| 22:53.08 | r-wolf | nvz: yes, this is what I need, thanks! |
| 22:53.12 | abrotman | so don't use unstable |
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| 23:01.40 | ricardo | why wouil fsck hang for about 2 minutes on 7.8% during a forced check during boot up ? |
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| 23:05.17 | dondelelcaro | . |
| 23:05.50 | streuner | .. |
| 23:06.03 | dondelelcaro | heh. mistyped <enter>~. in a shell. |
| 23:07.03 | streuner | ricardo: what filesystem? |
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| 23:08.20 | ricardo | streuner im a newbie , how would I determine that |
| 23:08.57 | streuner | ricardo: cat /etc/fstab |
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| 23:09.46 | streuner | if you dunno its prolly ext2/3 |
| 23:10.03 | ricardo | /dev/sda5 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
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| 23:10.16 | lvh | hi |
| 23:11.03 | lvh | can I use wildcards in fstab? Heres the situation: I have an encfs virtual volume (it's a more or less transparent layer down to my physical usb hard drive), that has a bunch of iso images |
| 23:11.20 | streuner | ricardo: How this happened at all? |
| 23:11.20 | lvh | i'd like to mount these as my user in /home/lvh/loop (lvh being my user, of course) |
| 23:11.40 | streuner | ricardo: (need to fsck the filesystem) |
| 23:11.52 | lvh | now, i cant mount them manually as root because the isos are in encfs, and i cant mount them as user unless i specify them in fstab |
| 23:12.01 | lvh | i could specify all of them manually but that would be a bit shit :p |
| 23:12.21 | ricardo | streuner, the fsck forced a check during boot up . should i do it again ? |
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| 23:12.34 | ricardo | streuner, do I have errors ? |
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| 23:13.04 | streuner | ricardo: old hardware (HD)? |
| 23:13.18 | ricardo | no laptop is about a year old |
| 23:13.47 | streuner | but fresh install? just install smartmontools and take a look there |
| 23:14.22 | ricardo | nah i installed etch about 8 months ago |
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| 23:15.48 | ricardo | ok im installing them , thanks |
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| 23:20.24 | streuner | !info smartmontools |
| 23:20.29 | dpkg | smartmontools: (control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.), section utils, is optional. Version: 5.37-6 (sid), Packaged size: 277 kB, Installed size: 600 kB |
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| 23:22.47 | RichiH | where did nvidia-kernel-source in testing go? |
| 23:23.04 | streuner_ | nirwana? |
| 23:23.26 | streuner_ | since when do you need nvidia? |
| 23:23.56 | streuner_ | RichiH: check out changelog |
| 23:24.38 | streuner_ | RichiH: nvidia stuff is in testing and unstable broken, since months, dunno about the actual situation |
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| 23:25.34 | abrotman | RichiH: get it from unstable |
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| 23:26.16 | streuner_ | RichiH: and read /msg dpkg nvidia (wiki.d.o) |
| 23:27.51 | RichiH | streuner: it's my brother's box |
| 23:28.01 | RichiH | and thanks, both :) |
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| 23:33.27 | the_sniff | would mknod /dev/megadev0 c 254 0 may fsck things up/ |
| 23:34.50 | streuner_ | How about to just use udev? |
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| 23:41.46 | ttz | hi there! |
| 23:42.58 | ttz | hwclock(8) doesn't work with rtc.ko on my system, I have to use genrtc.ki. Unfortunately, rtc.ko is automatically loaded at boot time (I don't where it is loaded though). How do I load genrtc.ko at boot time instead? |
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| 23:44.49 | phretor | hi there |
| 23:45.02 | jetscreamer | !blacklist |
| 23:45.02 | dpkg | In etch, lenny and sid, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. For sarge ask me about <blacklist sarge>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. |
| 23:45.17 | jetscreamer | !blacklist-initramfs |
| 23:45.17 | dpkg | [blacklist-initramfs] If your kernel uses an initramfs image (most recent ones do), you need to run 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)' in order to refresh its copy of blacklist table. Otherwise, early bootup won't follow your blacklist requests in e.g. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local |
| 23:45.29 | ttz | thanks jetscreamer |
| 23:45.35 | phretor | I'm on SID and I've followed this http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s03.html#config_server_setup to setup a nfs-kernel-server - however, cat /proc/fs/nfs/exports is empty - ideas? |
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| 23:46.11 | ck23 | evening |
| 23:46.15 | phretor | (and, on the client side, I get a "Permission denied" while trying to mount) |
| 23:46.21 | ck23 | i want to setup a static route in network/interfaces. what's the difference between "up route add.." and "post-up route add.."? |
| 23:46.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | phretor, did you restart nfs afater changing exports? |
| 23:46.58 | jetscreamer | for me, most nfs problems were easily resolved after i disabled the firewalls... of course, it was all local and i unplugged the internet |
| 23:47.04 | phretor | Kamping_Kaiser: of course |
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| 23:50.40 | phretor | Kamping_Kaiser: I installed the nfs-kernel-server: is it normal that nfsd is not started while the portmap is started? |
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| 23:50.48 | jetscreamer | the post up is after the interface is up i would guess |
| 23:52.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | phretor, nfs has its own init scripts. afaik it doesnt restart if you restart portmap |
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| 23:52.25 | phretor | Kamping_Kaiser: i first restarted the portmap and then the nfs-kernel-server |
| 23:52.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | phretor, are you sure nfs restarted successfully? |
| 23:53.15 | phretor | Kamping_Kaiser: other checks beside ps aux | grep nfs ? |
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| 23:54.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | phretor, look in syslog. |
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| 23:55.12 | phretor | Kamping_Kaiser: the last one is "Dec 26 01:41:55 nas mountd[3458]: authenticated mount request from 192.168.1.15:1012 for /mnt/lacie2 (/mnt/lacie2) |
| 23:55.13 | phretor | " |
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| 23:56.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | what time is it there? |
| 23:56.44 | debianforlife | as a regular user can i mount a smb share? |
| 23:57.02 | wols_ | debianforlife: if it's set up via fstab properly: yes |
| 23:57.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | wols_, would gnome-vfs allow it too? as a personal mount? |
| 23:57.27 | debianforlife | oh yeah, i forgot about that :P |
| 23:57.30 | wols_ | dunno. don't use gnome. maybe |
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| 23:57.54 | debianforlife | thanks wols |
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