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| 00:01.34 | jukrop | jepeltw_: the mirror im downloading it from is very slow, only 90kbs..........know of any faster one? |
| 00:01.41 | cab46 | enouf : i think i have to use this for install the firmware http://packages.debian.org/lenny/rt73-common |
| 00:01.45 | jepeltw_ | jukrop: depends on where you are |
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| 00:02.03 | jukrop | jepeltw_: australia |
| 00:02.06 | cab46 | any idea how to do use this tool ? |
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| 00:02.33 | enouf | cab46: sry, no i don't, i don't do any wifi, nor even usb really |
| 00:02.38 | jepeltw_ | jukrop: then try some of the australian mirrors and see which is the fastest; all I know is that debian.yorku.ca is the fastest for me where I happen to be |
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| 00:05.33 | galevsky | I am downloading a knoppix, 'cause I can't do anything since / is not mounted.... |
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| 00:09.38 | jepeltw_ | what would cause a system to lock up right after typing your username at the login prompt? |
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| 00:09.59 | itchi | jepeltw_: Does that happend if you log in with another user? |
| 00:10.10 | jepeltw_ | itchi: yep |
| 00:10.17 | jepeltw_ | itchi: the system doesn't even say Password: |
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| 00:11.21 | k-man_ | is there a list somewhere of supported wireless cards? |
| 00:12.01 | simonrvn | sounds like a pam problem, probably indirectly |
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| 00:12.19 | cafuego | jukrop: Don't optus have a mirror anyway? |
| 00:12.31 | jepeltw_ | simonrvn: I'm guessing indirect, because I had a power outage earlier. Perhaps file corruption? |
| 00:12.32 | cab46 | now works !!!! the solution was run update-rt73-firmware |
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| 00:12.39 | cab46 | nice!!! |
| 00:12.46 | simonrvn | likely |
| 00:12.50 | jepeltw_ | Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work |
| 00:13.05 | cab46 | thank all guys |
| 00:13.08 | jepeltw_ | is there any easy way to restore from a livecd or do I need to reinstall? |
| 00:13.12 | TheViral | hey, for some reason my font size has changed globally...all the font everywhere is smaller now |
| 00:13.15 | cafuego | jukrop: http://mirror.optus.net.au/pub/debian/ |
| 00:13.25 | cafuego | silly bugger |
| 00:13.26 | TheViral | the font in this window, in firefox, on my GUI |
| 00:13.28 | deadcat | what do i do with this? Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached |
| 00:13.31 | simonrvn | boot with -b, remount / mount /proc start up your network, and reinstall pam packages and libc6 |
| 00:13.43 | TheViral | I set my font back to larger and it only effects my taskbars |
| 00:13.45 | simonrvn | jepeltw_: ^^^ |
| 00:13.49 | TheViral | how do I fix it? |
| 00:13.56 | simonrvn | jepeltw_: er, remount / rw |
| 00:14.08 | jepeltw_ | simonrvn: pam would explain why I can't SSH into the box either |
| 00:14.16 | simonrvn | jepeltw_: (also mount your other partitions if needed ;) |
| 00:14.26 | jepeltw_ | but the terminal also froze when I tried to run iptables |
| 00:14.34 | jepeltw_ | and top |
| 00:14.36 | simonrvn | yeh, ssh is set to use pam nowadays IIRC |
| 00:14.42 | enouf | jepeltw_: yeah, defs in /etc/pam.d/* |
| 00:14.53 | simonrvn | yeh which is why i suggested reinstalling libc6 |
| 00:14.55 | ledet | TheViral: probably in your ~/.gtkrc-2.0.mine |
| 00:15.02 | jepeltw_ | ok, i'll try that |
| 00:15.05 | enouf | but i wouldnt mess with that manually |
| 00:15.22 | jepeltw_ | all I know about PAM is that it causes problems; I won't go messing with its config |
| 00:15.27 | TheViral | ledet: What's wrong with it? |
| 00:15.49 | enouf | jepeltw_: well, if when you installed, you chose to use "shadow" (a good thing), that's pam there |
| 00:15.53 | simonrvn | that almost qualifies as a QOTD =) |
| 00:15.56 | TheViral | ledet: Everything changed after an update |
| 00:15.58 | cab46 | how can manage wireless connection in xfce ( like networkmanger applet for gnome ) ? |
| 00:16.06 | TheViral | ledet: I think... |
| 00:16.17 | jepeltw_ | cab46: I use GNOME networkmanager; it works quite well |
| 00:16.23 | enouf | (unless i'm brainfarting again) |
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| 00:17.00 | enouf | cab46: iwconfig ? some people report issues using nm-<something> |
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| 00:17.13 | enouf | cab46: you have wireless-tools installed? |
| 00:17.20 | cab46 | yes |
| 00:17.33 | enouf | more reading ;-) |
| 00:17.36 | simonrvn | enouf: *PFFFRT* |
| 00:17.41 | enouf | hehe |
| 00:17.46 | simonrvn | *G* |
| 00:18.30 | unholycrap | can i eject the cdrom while running the netinst? |
| 00:18.38 | unholycrap | so that i can load additional packages IE network drivers |
| 00:18.40 | enouf | cab46: also, just for general network config info "/msg dpkg interfaces" |
| 00:18.47 | TheViral | ledet: I don't see that fine anywhere |
| 00:19.17 | TheViral | ledet: oops....file |
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| 00:19.22 | mete | hi |
| 00:19.31 | mete | I've just setted up the nfs-kernel-server and have configured one share. Now I want to connect from a win box to this share, but it asks me for a PW. why? here is my config file: http://pastebin.us/?show=m20f3f103 |
| 00:19.53 | simonrvn | it thinks it's an smb share |
| 00:20.29 | simonrvn | (pretty obvious if you know what's *supposed* to happen ;) |
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| 00:20.46 | TheViral | simonrvn: do you know what sets my global font size |
| 00:21.05 | TheViral | simonrvn: like...gnome interface, firefox, the text in this window |
| 00:21.18 | TheViral | simonrvn: they decided to shrink on me |
| 00:21.23 | enouf | TheViral: entirely dependent on window manager, DE, etc |
| 00:21.32 | simonrvn | and dpi |
| 00:21.33 | enouf | TheViral: gconf? |
| 00:21.46 | enouf | simonrvn: good one, right resolution |
| 00:21.59 | TheViral | enouf: I have GNOME and gconf I believe, I don't think my resolution has changed |
| 00:22.02 | cab46 | with iwconfig is corret : iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid ? |
| 00:22.13 | cab46 | or i miss somethings ? |
| 00:22.20 | TheViral | enouf: It's still 1440x900 |
| 00:22.34 | enouf | cab46: looks decent, but for me, i'm not sure |
| 00:22.46 | enouf | ok TheViral |
| 00:22.47 | ledet | TheViral: create it then :) |
| 00:23.11 | TheViral | ledet: If I create it does it fill it in for me? |
| 00:23.13 | enouf | where's the main #gnome channel? |
| 00:23.17 | cab46 | doesn't work for me |
| 00:23.18 | ledet | TheViral: no |
| 00:23.19 | enouf | or network? |
| 00:23.40 | enouf | irc.gnome.org? |
| 00:24.34 | TheViral | enouf: What's the standard DPI? |
| 00:24.41 | enouf | 96? |
| 00:25.37 | TheViral | enouf: ok, that made things larger |
| 00:25.47 | enouf | heh |
| 00:25.59 | TheViral | enouf: Now the bug reporting tool popped up and things are a little funny...hahaha |
| 00:26.20 | TheViral | something called gecko crashed |
| 00:26.33 | enouf | are you in gconf ? or dpkg-reconfigure ? |
| 00:26.39 | enouf | oh |
| 00:26.57 | TheViral | enouf: I was using the appearance settings thing |
| 00:27.03 | enouf | gecko is the mozilla/firefox/iceweael engine |
| 00:27.05 | TheViral | now it's cutting off the sentences on ehre haha |
| 00:27.12 | enouf | er iceweasel* |
| 00:27.28 | enouf | oh, ok |
| 00:27.41 | enouf | save and restart the session? |
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| 00:29.43 | TheViral | enouf: Ok, so it looks like the DPI was my problem |
| 00:30.03 | TheViral | enouf: Now to just set all my other fonts back to their original size |
| 00:30.18 | enouf | !prize simonrvn |
| 00:30.29 | enouf | ok |
| 00:30.31 | illbiteyou | bleh |
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| 00:30.57 | TheViral | can I have a my little pony |
| 00:30.58 | illbiteyou | bleh every time i log in, my screen and font are all messed up |
| 00:31.17 | TheViral | if your font is too small then that happened to me too |
| 00:31.24 | TheViral | who knows why |
| 00:31.44 | illbiteyou | no, only a few pixels of everything in font shows up |
| 00:31.46 | illbiteyou | the rest is black |
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| 00:32.11 | TheViral | try changing your default font |
| 00:32.18 | TheViral | maybe the one you're using is corrupt? |
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| 00:36.03 | Blazer11 | anyone usung GIT in Debian Etch |
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| 00:43.48 | cab46 | i have installed network-manager-gnome in xfce , but i can't add to the toolbar , how can do this ? |
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| 00:45.30 | vilemaxim | any citadel people here... Trying to figure out if there are any IM clients that can connect to it. |
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| 00:47.12 | BlueG | I am looking for a program/IDE/tutor for introducing kids to programming. Any suggestions? |
| 00:47.19 | enouf | vilemaxim: not polite to ask same question at same time across multiple channels |
| 00:48.08 | enouf | there are various "Edu" distros, iirc |
| 00:51.20 | xand | !ati |
| 00:51.21 | dpkg | Want to use a newer ATI videocard in sarge? for etch/testing and sid/unstable, just install fglrx-driver and fglrx-kernel-src and read /usr/share/doc/fglrx-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz Try to avoid using ati's stuff directy unless you have to. --- I've heard the driver control panel app needs 32bit libs to compile under 64b, or chris.evenden@amd.com, or and open specs announced 2007-09-05 or ask about <radeonhd> |
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| 00:53.29 | pipeline | xand: there's a free driver for r5xx/r6xx now. Theres been a free driver for r3xx/r4xx for quite some time. |
| 00:54.17 | illbiteyou | hmmm |
| 00:54.32 | illbiteyou | web development seems like it would be "fun" after u get all the stuff set up |
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| 00:54.48 | illbiteyou | but scary at first |
| 00:55.07 | xand | pipeline: what do you mean by rNxx? |
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| 00:56.26 | xand | pipeline: this is an old one... I guess R350, am trying to make the TV out work |
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| 00:56.52 | pipeline | xand: oh, you're probably pretty screwed :) |
| 00:57.00 | pipeline | xand: fglrx is probably your only option. |
| 00:57.30 | xand | I had it working with a geforce card but it's faulty and keeps flickering in vga and tv out modes :| |
| 00:57.58 | LoneTech | didn |
| 00:58.08 | LoneTech | didn't gatos work on that sort of thing? |
| 00:59.19 | xand | hmm |
| 00:59.47 | xand | another annoying thing is that the the geforce used PAL from POST, this seems to be using NTSC so it's blurry and in grayscale |
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| 01:02.23 | xand | !fglrx |
| 01:02.23 | dpkg | The binary driver made available by ATI. See <fglrx one-liner> for installation. See http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/fglrx-driver for a non-Debian installation method, or currently not working with xorg > 7.1. Downgrade xserver-xorg-core to 7.1 for the time being if you are on testing/unstable. See also <fglrx 2.6.21>. |
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| 01:08.15 | never_home | having a problem signing custom built packages. using 'dpkg-buildpackage -kAB123456CD' (tried -m<email> too); then pulling down the package from a local repo. The public key is listed as trusted in apt-keys on the client but I get a message about untrusted versions when i try to install. |
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| 01:08.48 | never_home | thing is this was working with the -m option.... any ideas? |
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| 01:24.19 | xand | *STAB* |
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| 01:28.33 | linux_jones | so i got this new tv tuner card, and its not working, anyone have any good places to point me for help? |
| 01:30.51 | xand | what card, and define "not working"? |
| 01:32.16 | itchi | linux_jones: Did you load the correct module? |
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| 01:32.59 | itchi | linux_jones: And give more details about what is not working |
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| 01:34.15 | x03 | how can i count all packages available in apt ? |
| 01:34.29 | kuhwallskee | Can anyone point me in the right direction of installing java on debian stable? |
| 01:35.12 | itchi | x03: dpkg -l "*" | grep "^ii" | wc -l ?? |
| 01:35.27 | xand | !java |
| 01:35.27 | dpkg | it has been said that java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun partially released its Java implementation under the GPL on 2006-11-13. There are other implementations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>. |
| 01:35.32 | x03 | itchi: not installed |
| 01:35.42 | x03 | itchi: available for install |
| 01:35.43 | kuhwallskee | !install java |
| 01:35.43 | dpkg | If you're on x86, you can install Sun's Java plugin by making sure you have non-free APT sources, and install sun-java5-plugin. Lenny users can install sun-java6-plugin instead. Otherwise, ask me about <java-package>. |
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| 01:35.47 | xand | kuhwallskee: add non-free to your sources.list |
| 01:35.56 | itchi | x03: Ah, ok :-s |
| 01:36.00 | donny | itchi: doesn't that count installed packages? |
| 01:36.06 | donny | oh, sorry |
| 01:36.08 | x03 | donny: yes |
| 01:36.17 | xand | kuhwallskee: then install sun-java5-jdk or -jre |
| 01:36.33 | itchi | x03: Well, i don't know for "all" packages |
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| 01:37.12 | Tramp | x03: apt-cache stats ? |
| 01:37.22 | x03 | Shango:/var/lib/apt/lists# grep Package * | wc -l |
| 01:37.22 | x03 | 35076 |
| 01:37.23 | itchi | x03: Or apt-cache search " " | wc -l ?? |
| 01:38.35 | kuhwallskee | xand: good stuff |
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| 01:39.55 | up365 | kuhwallskee, I did install on etch - http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com follow directions there |
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| 01:42.47 | kuhwallskee | xand: still havin issues getting it to work in iceweasel though. |
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| 01:43.14 | fundesktop | anyone here who must use rt2x00? it ceased to work here for no reason (can't connect to wlan anymore with rt73 in debian testing) |
| 01:43.38 | Guerin | fundesktop: worksforme - though I have a rt2500 |
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| 01:44.09 | fundesktop | I'm using ndiswrapper now |
| 01:44.19 | fundesktop | which I've always suspected to cause system instabilities |
| 01:44.20 | linux_jones | itchi, it doesnt do anything, at least not with xawtv, and i didnt load any module because i cant find ANYTHING about this card online |
| 01:44.35 | Guerin | eew, don't use ndiscrapper |
| 01:44.45 | itchi | linux_jones: Which TV-card do you have? |
| 01:45.20 | fundesktop | Guerin: I have no choice |
| 01:45.22 | linux_jones | itchi, vboxx dta 151 |
| 01:45.42 | fundesktop | it _worked_ here, but now... no |
| 01:45.46 | Guerin | fundesktop: rt73 works as well. YOur confiug has gotten fuckerised someplace. |
| 01:46.00 | Guerin | my sister's rt73 (etch) is still fine. |
| 01:46.06 | fundesktop | I didn't touch any config |
| 01:46.09 | itchi | linux_jones: What's showed up with lspci ? |
| 01:46.10 | fundesktop | is there even a config? |
| 01:46.14 | jepeltw_ | what would cause a system to hang at "INIT: version 2.86 booting"? |
| 01:46.22 | fundesktop | Guerin: tell her to run update and dist-upgrade |
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| 01:46.42 | fundesktop | hm, etch... lenny here |
| 01:46.56 | Guerin | fundesktop: why? It's working, why fuck with it? |
| 01:47.16 | linux_jones | itchi, nothing that i 100% clear, the only thing i have figured out is that i think that this is it : 00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Auravision Unknown device 01f9 (rev 03) |
| 01:47.19 | fundesktop | Guerin: to see if it stops working *g* |
| 01:47.22 | fundesktop | Guerin: it did for me |
| 01:47.25 | jepeltw_ | Guerin: stuff that works is kinda boring |
| 01:47.49 | nekostar | ok opinions plz: i want to pick up asap certs i can make cash with |
| 01:47.57 | Guerin | fundesktop: rather not take that change, if you don't mind. |
| 01:48.07 | Guerin | jepeltw_: I run sid. My sister doesn't. |
| 01:48.16 | nekostar | dont wanna code - so sysadmin path would be preferable, and dont wanna be tied to redhat so rhel wouldnt be my path |
| 01:48.18 | itchi | linux_jones: Do update-pciids as root and check again with lspci if it changed |
| 01:48.20 | nekostar | recommendations? |
| 01:48.23 | fundesktop | Guerin: well I'd be happy if it works *g* |
| 01:48.34 | Guerin | nekostar: buy SCOX |
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| 01:48.39 | jepeltw_ | sigh |
| 01:48.50 | jepeltw_ | thanks all y'all for your help, I'm going to just nuke and pave |
| 01:48.59 | Guerin | !aliensmite jepeltw_ |
| 01:49.02 | itchi | linux_jones: This will update that list of informations for lspci. Actually it doesn't know much about it |
| 01:49.18 | fundesktop | Guerin: is it rt73/legacy or rt2x00 for you? |
| 01:49.20 | nekostar | Guerin i see a lot of stuff for scox on google addl pointer? |
| 01:49.29 | itchi | linux_jones: BTW, which kernel do you use? |
| 01:49.29 | nekostar | oh sco? |
| 01:49.35 | nekostar | thought that was dead end at this point? |
| 01:49.36 | jepeltw_ | Guerin: when your Linux install freezes randomly like a Windows install, fix it like you would a Windows install |
| 01:50.02 | Guerin | fundesktop: mine is rt2500. Angie's is rt73 (a 2570 or something usb adapter) |
| 01:50.10 | Guerin | jepeltw_: right on. |
| 01:50.17 | nekostar | jepeltw_ when your linux install freezes randomly like a windows install look at dmesg |
| 01:50.19 | nekostar | and logs |
| 01:50.23 | nekostar | XD |
| 01:50.47 | jepeltw_ | nekostar: I just had a power outage, so I blame disk corruption, and frankly it would be a mess to figure out what package(s) might be corrupted |
| 01:50.47 | fundesktop | Guerin: I'm asking for the driver, not the device... so you maybe mean the legacy rt73 driver |
| 01:50.56 | nekostar | fair enough then lol |
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| 01:51.10 | linux_jones | Linux media 2.6.18-5-486, and update-pciids didnt change anything nas far as i can tell |
| 01:51.11 | Guerin | nekostar: http://feayn.org/~lewis/scowned.png |
| 01:51.48 | Guerin | fundesktop: my sister uses rt73, mine uses rt2x00. |
| 01:51.57 | Guerin | both work fine |
| 01:51.58 | fundesktop | ah |
| 01:52.11 | nekostar | Guerin right........ |
| 01:52.33 | fundesktop | Guerin: I didn't find out the exact cause... but it's not working with linux 2.6.23-1 and 2.6.23-2 |
| 01:52.49 | xand | kuhwallskee: do you have amd64? |
| 01:52.51 | Guerin | nekostar: this is an oblique way of saying `if you think asking for stock advice on a random irc channel is a good idea, you'vbe already lost' |
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| 01:52.59 | linux_jones | itchi, Linux media 2.6.18-5-486, and update-pciids didnt change anything nas far as i can tell |
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| 01:53.11 | nekostar | Guerin perhaps we misunderstood each other |
| 01:53.27 | Guerin | nekostar: whatever the case, i'm quite sure it's offtopic. |
| 01:53.28 | nekostar | not looking for stock advice - looking for certification / training advice |
| 01:53.31 | itchi | linux_jones: Which distro do you run? |
| 01:53.33 | Guerin | hah |
| 01:53.47 | Guerin | nekostar: get a job. Work. THere's your certification. |
| 01:53.48 | linux_jones | itchi, debian etch |
| 01:53.49 | kuhwallskee | xand: no i686 |
| 01:53.54 | nekostar | ......... |
| 01:53.55 | Guerin | the rest is bits of paper and tick-boxes |
| 01:54.08 | itchi | linux_jones: Anyway, you should run somethings other as -486 i guess |
| 01:54.22 | nekostar | got job / doing work / want different job - need at least some kinda cert to get work in field in los angeles |
| 01:54.37 | itchi | linux_jones: That kernel is optimised for the old stuff. Do you run a 486? I wonder |
| 01:54.45 | Guerin | ... |
| 01:54.53 | up365 | kuhwallskee, this link,scroll down almost to bottom,follow instructions for symbolic links,-http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting |
| 01:55.09 | linux_jones | itchi, i have no idea, how can i tell? |
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| 01:55.52 | itchi | linux_jones: You card is unknow for the kernel. But first install a kernel optimized for you arch. What architecture do you have? Intel Pentium 1,2,3,4? AMD? |
| 01:56.10 | obnauticus_ | K, I have a Jump drive, I want to make a complete image backup of all the data on the drive... |
| 01:56.21 | obnauticus_ | Some stuff may be in different partitions on it, how would one go about doing that ? |
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| 01:57.10 | linux_jones | itchi, i have no idea, i got this computer as a gift, its kind of older, is the only way to tell to pull the computer apart? |
| 01:57.27 | itchi | obnauticus_: Which type of backup do you want? A exact image of that HDD (or partition)? Or just get the data and be easy to extract some parts of it? |
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| 01:57.29 | maddash | who the hell is angie? |
| 01:57.33 | linux_jones | itchi, i know its intel |
| 01:57.36 | obnauticus_ | An exact image itchi. |
| 01:57.41 | pablo | hi, what is the .lesshst file? |
| 01:57.45 | obnauticus_ | so I can dd it onto it later if I need to :| |
| 01:58.12 | itchi | linux_jones: Paste the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo to a paster. See /msg dpkg paster for more info |
| 01:58.55 | up365 | kuhwallskee, when I installed on etch I did links for iceweasel,mozilla, and firefox-mozilla, didn't know if itwasnecessary for all 3 but it works |
| 01:59.02 | itchi | obnauticus_: Or make a ghost like image with ghost4linux |
| 01:59.47 | itchi | obnauticus_: An image file of a hdd is not that nice. I'm more for tar'ing stuff, but that my taste |
| 01:59.49 | linux_jones | itchi, haha i was wrong its amd |
| 02:00.01 | obnauticus_ | itchi it's a U3 drive. |
| 02:00.04 | obnauticus_ | it's got some weird partitions on it. |
| 02:00.19 | itchi | linux_jones: Well, paste that output, that will be interesting to know which kernel you may need to install |
| 02:00.42 | itchi | obnauticus_: Recovery partition? |
| 02:00.43 | linux_jones | itchi, http://pastebin.ca/835846 |
| 02:00.52 | obnauticus_ | no |
| 02:01.01 | obnauticus_ | U3's have some weird partition that emulates drivers of like |
| 02:01.02 | obnauticus_ | a CD drive |
| 02:01.04 | obnauticus_ | or something like that |
| 02:01.07 | obnauticus_ | for autorunning software |
| 02:02.17 | itchi | linux_jones: Do you run stable, testing on unstable? |
| 02:02.35 | linux_jones | itchi, stable, etch |
| 02:03.16 | itchi | linux_jones: Well install linux-image-k7 |
| 02:03.38 | linux_jones | itchi, can i apt-get that? |
| 02:04.11 | itchi | linux_jones: Yes, Or you could also just install linux-image-2.6.18-4-k7 but that linux-image-k7 will be always the latest available one |
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| 02:04.58 | linux_jones | itchi, ok, and one last thing, if i apt-get that, and then go to modprobe ndiswrappers, will that still work, or will i have to reinstall all that? |
| 02:05.09 | itchi | linux_jones: Once installed, reboot, and then look again with lspci. It's still not sure that it will work now. But at least you run a kernel optimized for you CPU. So gain the benefit of it |
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| 02:05.21 | itchi | linux_jones: Why ndiswrappers ? |
| 02:06.04 | linux_jones | itchi, because my wireless card wont work otherwise |
| 02:06.37 | itchi | linux_jones: Ah, ok, i was confused about the TV card that nothings have to do with ndiswrapper ;-) |
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| 02:07.06 | itchi | linux_jones: How do you install/follow the procedure for that ndiswrappers? |
| 02:07.14 | itchi | linux_jones: With modules-assistant? |
| 02:07.28 | linux_jones | itchi, yeah |
| 02:07.34 | itchi | linux_jones: Ok, that's good |
| 02:07.39 | itchi | and easy :-) |
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| 02:08.36 | linux_jones | but its a big mess to take it out in the living room to hook it up to a wired network, so is that something i should set up now so i dont have to mess with that, or will ndiswrapper still work |
| 02:08.59 | itchi | linux_jones: No |
| 02:09.27 | linux_jones | itchi, no it wont still work? |
| 02:09.38 | itchi | linux_jones: Take the wire ;-) |
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| 02:10.24 | linux_jones | itchi, but! is there a chance i will be able to watch tv untill tomorrow when i can take it out there? |
| 02:10.30 | itchi | linux_jones: If you need ndiswrappers, that's always pain when you upgrade/change of new kernel |
| 02:10.51 | itchi | linux_jones: Well, i hope that the -k7 will support your card heh |
| 02:10.57 | linux_jones | ok, well here goes nothing |
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| 02:11.15 | itchi | linux_jones: First need to look with lspci and get no unknow device |
| 02:11.51 | itchi | linux_jones: Anyway, with my tv card, i need to reload that module and specify the tuner to use. |
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| 02:13.53 | itchi | linux_jones: Did you install and rebooted yet? |
| 02:14.19 | linux_jones | itchi, nope, its downloading |
| 02:15.33 | linux_jones | itchi, how come the debian installer doesnt automatically install the right image for me |
| 02:15.49 | itchi | linux_jones: That's always so |
| 02:16.06 | itchi | linux_jones: Even if it will be, it will already be outdated |
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| 02:16.26 | linux_jones | itchi, oh well time for the reboot |
| 02:17.04 | jepeltw | yay, my freshly burned Debian CD doesn't boot |
| 02:17.14 | jepeltw | the newest CD will boot on older systems, right? |
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| 02:17.46 | y | I'm getting an error when I try to FTP with one particular account |
| 02:18.00 | y | it says that I can't switch to that directory as that user. |
| 02:18.04 | y | yet the permissions are fine. |
| 02:18.13 | y | the user is chrooted to their home. |
| 02:18.42 | itchi | jepeltw: Define older systems |
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| 02:19.02 | y | I remember using two different methods to create a chroot jail for the user. |
| 02:19.12 | y | but I can't find the tutorial for the first method I tried, which I sense is interfering. |
| 02:19.24 | jepeltw | itchi, Compaq from 1999, boots a Sarge CD without complaint |
| 02:19.25 | y | vsftpd is the second thing i tried, and it worked great. |
| 02:19.36 | itchi | jepeltw: Used the 2.4 kernel? |
| 02:19.57 | jepeltw | itchi, no, as of even yesterday it ran 2.6.20-something |
| 02:20.22 | itchi | jepeltw: Is the md5sum right of that CD? |
| 02:20.47 | jepeltw | itchi, OS X verified the burn when I burned it, and the md5 of the ISO I used matches |
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| 02:21.22 | itchi | jepeltw: Does that CD boot other computers? |
| 02:21.42 | jepeltw | hmm, that would be the smart thing to try |
| 02:21.48 | jepeltw | one sec, I'll try my 2003-era laptop |
| 02:23.59 | jepeltw | boots just fine on the laptop |
| 02:24.23 | jepeltw | to clarify, on the server it doesn't even fail; the system just skips the CD entirely (though I see the CD activity light come on) |
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| 02:38.59 | ladydoor | Hi...so I'm having some trouble with wireless on the new system (Debian Lenny) I just installed for my father. The wireless part of /etc/network/interfaces is here: http://paste.uni.cc/17908. Prior to rebooting into a GNOME environment, I was able to bring up wireless by hand. However, after the reboot, (a) wireless did not start automatically during boot, and (b) I can't seem to bring it up either using the command line or the GNOME |
| 02:39.00 | ladydoor | control interface...any tips here? |
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| 02:39.56 | cafuego | !info mt-daapd sid |
| 02:40.01 | dpkg | mt-daapd: (iTunes-compatible DAAP server), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.9~r1586-1 (sid), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 1420 kB |
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| 02:41.08 | ladydoor | In addition, when I try to bring up the interface, it seems to lose any essid and key information previously given to it.. |
| 02:42.52 | zicho | How do i sett the CC environment to match the version of the compiler that was used to compile the kernel? |
| 02:43.26 | azeem | zicho: 1. install the version of the compiler that was to compile the kernel |
| 02:43.27 | azeem | 2. ... |
| 02:43.30 | azeem | 3. profit! |
| 02:44.01 | zicho | azeem; it is installed =/ |
| 02:44.11 | azeem | which one is it? |
| 02:44.22 | zicho | gcc-4.1 |
| 02:44.32 | azeem | what are you trying to doß |
| 02:44.34 | azeem | do*? |
| 02:44.50 | zicho | install the nvidia driver. |
| 02:45.10 | azeem | are you using module-assistant? |
| 02:45.13 | Gnurdux | CC=gcc-whatever make |
| 02:45.34 | zicho | azeem: no |
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| 02:49.26 | zicho | azeem: the nvidia installer just complains about gcc environment. |
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| 02:50.02 | azeem | zicho: which version of debian? |
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| 02:50.27 | zicho | testing |
| 02:50.34 | jepeltw | I hear ya |
| 02:50.42 | azeem | !nvidia_post_etch |
| 02:50.42 | dpkg | methinks nvidia_post_etch is update-pciids && apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx && depmod -a && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 02:51.21 | legis | Hi! |
| 02:51.47 | y | Hey. Permissions are Owner / Group / Global for chmod, right? |
| 02:52.09 | y | aye? |
| 02:52.16 | azeem | man chown |
| 02:52.18 | zicho | azeem: ty. |
| 02:52.22 | y | grarg. |
| 02:52.25 | azeem | y: or man chmod |
| 02:52.30 | y | I am confused about something |
| 02:52.42 | y | I have a directory that is owned by a user, but they are not in the group |
| 02:52.45 | legis | what is the debian way of loading iptables rules after reboot? |
| 02:52.46 | y | the permissions are 770 |
| 02:53.00 | y | when I add them to the group, all is fine, but when i revoke the group they can't FTP in because they can't get to the directory |
| 02:53.35 | azeem | maybe the parent directory is the problem already? |
| 02:53.41 | y | nope. its 770 too. |
| 02:53.44 | y | and owned by them |
| 02:54.00 | y | obviously we can't follow this logic forever because they can't be owners of /var/ |
| 02:54.02 | y | =) |
| 02:54.05 | azeem | you can "them" own a directory? |
| 02:54.13 | azeem | it's always a single user who owns it |
| 02:54.18 | y | oh sorry. |
| 02:54.27 | y | "them" in the improper english sense of one person |
| 02:54.32 | azeem | ok |
| 02:54.47 | azeem | y: they don't need to own it, they just need permission to chdir into it |
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| 02:55.18 | azeem | r-x is fine for that |
| 02:55.40 | sdubois92 | how do i completely remove gnome? |
| 02:55.59 | azeem | !remove gnome |
| 02:56.00 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about <install gnome>), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 02:56.03 | y | azeem, they're set to 770, so that means they can aye? |
| 02:56.17 | y | that's rwxrwx---. they are the owner. so... |
| 02:56.40 | azeem | y: well, check from the root from where you chroot ftp to (or /) and see whether they can for all directories they are not owner/group |
| 02:57.27 | y | but they are the owner of the dir they are chrooted to |
| 02:57.34 | azeem | ok |
| 02:57.36 | azeem | no idea then |
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| 02:58.03 | y | am I being an idiot? 770 = they have full access, the group of the file has full access, and everyone else is locked out, rihgt? |
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| 02:58.52 | azeem | what is the group? |
| 02:58.55 | y | www-data |
| 02:59.12 | azeem | and the owner? |
| 02:59.16 | y | the user in question |
| 02:59.43 | y | what's funny is when I make permissions 777, the user *still* can't FTP in |
| 03:00.04 | azeem | but you're sure they can once you add them to www-data? |
| 03:00.21 | y | oh yeah. |
| 03:01.23 | y | soon as I remove them.... FTP error 500 OOPS: cannot change directory:/var/www/clients/site/web 500 OOPS: child died |
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| 03:02.50 | azeem | that says change directory, not chroot |
| 03:02.57 | azeem | are you sure you chroot there? |
| 03:03.09 | y | i set vsftpd to chroot to home, and that's the client's home |
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| 03:03.41 | azeem | y: hrm, I'm out of ideas sorry |
| 03:04.02 | itchi | azeem: Is the nvidia-kernel-source not available on testing anymore? |
| 03:04.05 | y | if it confuses you more, SSH works fine! =) |
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| 03:04.36 | azeem | itchi: maybe not, dunno |
| 03:04.50 | itchi | azeem: Well, seems not to be available again |
| 03:05.01 | itchi | azeem: Just tried the m-a :-s |
| 03:05.02 | se7en_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.24 | azeem | y: maybe vsftp spawns a child, sets the id to the user and tries to reach that directory before chrooting, dunno |
| 03:05.40 | itchi | se7en_: Tried to look with hwinfo? |
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| 03:09.16 | itchi | _Trinity_: You missed the call. You are dead! |
| 03:09.50 | LimCore | how to protect self from user to root exploits and other local privilages escalation? |
| 03:11.11 | _Trinity_ | what call? |
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| 03:11.23 | legis | tripwire? |
| 03:11.26 | itchi | _Trinity_: These you have missed |
| 03:11.42 | _Trinity_ | lol |
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| 03:13.33 | dutchfish | hi i have download the linux and initrd.gz from the netboot dir for lenny, i want to pxe netboot an install, however the kernel (2.6.18) is to old for a lenny net install, where can i find updated ones? |
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| 03:14.39 | _Trinity_ | shite, I thought it was someone I was talking with that I hung up on |
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| 03:15.25 | _Trinity_ | telling me I was dead |
| 03:15.37 | pipeline | dutchfish: install etch and upgrade to lenny |
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| 03:16.01 | se7en_ | thanks itchi that is a realy nice tool it does not have the info i need sdr or ddr ram but cool tool |
| 03:16.02 | dutchfish | pipeline i know, but i dont want that |
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| 03:17.46 | dutchfish | pipeline, the installer refuses only because the curent kernel doesnt match the kernel in the repos |
| 03:18.55 | sander_ | ANyone remember which module I need to modprobe to get access to a usb2 cellphone hardisk? |
| 03:19.12 | itchi | _Trinity_: Well, your been dead, cause you missed the call :-p |
| 03:19.15 | azeem | a cellphone harddisk? |
| 03:19.23 | catsup | unlikely it's a standard interface |
| 03:19.25 | itchi | se7en_: Indeed |
| 03:19.39 | catsup | if it is, udev should pick it up. but usb-storage |
| 03:22.05 | sander_ | Hm. Maybe its firewire |
| 03:23.10 | catsup | either way, if udev doesn't pick it up, it's unlikely to work. is this the openmoko phone? |
| 03:23.11 | sander_ | Nope. its usb |
| 03:23.26 | dutchfish | or .. where does the lenny installer look for kernels? |
| 03:23.37 | sander_ | Its a sony ericsson w900i |
| 03:23.49 | sander_ | catsup, I had it working a year ago |
| 03:24.00 | azeem | sander_: and that cellphone has a harddisk in it? |
| 03:24.12 | sander_ | Well.. not a hardisk.. but a memory card:-p |
| 03:24.25 | sander_ | It show'ed up as a scsi device |
| 03:25.00 | catsup | then what's the problem? |
| 03:25.05 | catsup | that's what it's supposed to do |
| 03:25.22 | catsup | just mount it |
| 03:25.41 | sander_ | Yeah. But i've tried to modprobe usb-storage.. and its now showing up in fdisk -l |
| 03:25.46 | azeem | 04:19 < sander_> catsup, I had it working a year ago |
| 03:25.48 | sander_ | not* |
| 03:26.04 | azeem | sander_: run dmesg before and after you plug it in |
| 03:26.13 | sander_ | *and its not showing up in fdisk -l* |
| 03:26.23 | sander_ | Let me see |
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| 03:27.33 | sander_ | azeem, I get: usb 1-4: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 14 |
| 03:28.00 | sander_ | and: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice, cdc_acm 1-4:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device, cdc_acm 1-4:1.3: ttyACM1: USB ACM device |
| 03:28.22 | azeem | sander_: are you sure it was a real device last year? |
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| 03:28.42 | sander_ | Yes. I'm 100% sure I mounted it as eg. /dev/sda1 |
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| 03:29.29 | catsup | are you sure it's the same phone? |
| 03:29.36 | sander_ | Yes! |
| 03:29.47 | catsup | well maybe they flashed the firmware to tighten up restrictions |
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| 03:29.55 | itchi | sander_: What say cat /proc/partitions ? |
| 03:30.59 | sander_ | itchi, just my 3 other hardisks which is popping up. |
| 03:31.36 | sander_ | I get sda(500gb) sdb(500gb) hdb(160gb) |
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| 03:33.08 | sander_ | catsup, I hardly doubt that they flashed the firmware |
| 03:33.31 | sander_ | This happened after I reinstalled debian |
| 03:33.46 | catsup | well i don't really believe that this ever worked like you say |
| 03:33.56 | sander_ | Why not? |
| 03:34.19 | catsup | because it doesn't make sense for the computer to act that way, while it does make sense for humans to be mistaken about events a year past |
| 03:34.23 | itchi | catsup: My tomtom is also showed as an external hdd |
| 03:34.37 | sander_ | Its is a pretty advanced phone |
| 03:34.46 | itchi | catsup: And has no mem-card way, just one internal memory |
| 03:35.26 | sander_ | ATleast it was pretty advanced when it came out. |
| 03:35.33 | sander_ | several years ago |
| 03:36.02 | itchi | sander_: Do you have another box where you can test on? |
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| 03:36.34 | sander_ | Yes. I think so. |
| 03:36.41 | sander_ | What will it help? |
| 03:36.50 | itchi | sander_: Compare, see if it still work |
| 03:36.59 | sander_ | Ok. I'll try |
| 03:37.15 | catsup | oh |
| 03:37.25 | catsup | try rebooting the phone while it's plugged in to usb |
| 03:37.50 | catsup | http://www.fixya.com/support/t244705-sony_ericsson_media_manager_software |
| 03:38.11 | Blazer11 | anyone using Xorg git |
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| 03:38.41 | catsup | !tell Blazer11 about anyone |
| 03:39.37 | LimCore | how to have /etc/init.d/dnsmasq_tor executed right after S15dnsmasq and S20tor ? |
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| 03:40.16 | catsup | LimCore: mv /etc/rc2.d/S??dnsmasq_tor /etc/rc2.d/S19dnsmasq_tor |
| 03:40.30 | sander_ | thanks alot! |
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| 03:40.36 | sander_ | worked after I rebooted the phone |
| 03:40.54 | catsup | LimCore: see /etc/init.d/README for a link to docs on how the init system works |
| 03:41.02 | dutchfish | ok, i have netinstall from PXE boot for lenny working now |
| 03:41.04 | sander_ | Disk /dev/sdd: 474 MB, 474873856 bytes |
| 03:41.05 | sander_ | :-) |
| 03:41.06 | catsup | sander_: :) |
| 03:41.10 | LimCore | there was a command to do it... or ln -s right? |
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| 03:41.28 | catsup | LimCore: you don't need a new link if you already have one |
| 03:42.11 | LimCore | I want to add another startup service |
| 03:42.13 | Blazer11 | ive install git-core in debiam etch, now trying to figure out how to download xorg git? |
| 03:42.30 | LimCore | masqdns_top - it will shut down masqdns and tun it's other version |
| 03:42.49 | Blazer11 | debian geesh lol |
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| 03:43.43 | Blazer11 | catsup is that better |
| 03:43.48 | catsup | ya |
| 03:44.02 | Blazer11 | K |
| 03:44.24 | catsup | not trying to chide you, you know; it's just that nobody will ever answer to "does anybody use x?" |
| 03:46.16 | catsup | by xorg git do you mean the git repo for xorg source? |
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| 03:47.14 | Guerin | Blazer11: ask #xorg |
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| 03:47.35 | catsup | I think you want git://git.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/xserver |
| 03:47.41 | Hoxzer | Hmm, just out of curiousity why doesn't apt-get do download and installing at the same time when installing multiple packages ? (Download one while installing another) |
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| 03:47.57 | catsup | Hoxzer: it's not sufficiently smart |
| 03:48.09 | dutchfish | holy cow, a full graphical desktop net-install in 12 min, and i thought etch was fast .... |
| 03:48.14 | catsup | Hoxzer: there's a lot about debian's installation processes that could be multitasked but isn't. :( |
| 03:50.31 | Blazer11 | catsup, im not exactly sure what i need, but it appears that using git has solved issues with xorg and multi pci domains, so if anyone can confirm this or point me in the right direction |
| 03:50.53 | dan2 | does debian's latest testing release installer work on the IBM T61p yet? |
| 03:51.00 | dan2 | couldn't detect ethernet cards last time |
| 03:51.25 | dutchfish | dan2, it has alot of improvements and 2.6.22-3 kernel |
| 03:51.42 | dan2 | dutchfish: ya, well I tested about 3-4 weeks ago |
| 03:51.47 | catsup | Blazer11: sorry if you know this; but git is just a mechanism for downloading the latest versions of xorg that are not yet released; it's the latest version that solves the problem; and you probably don't -need- git to get it |
| 03:52.12 | dutchfish | dan2, i got my 2 thinkpads running on it now, wich i couldnt 2 weeks ago |
| 03:52.23 | catsup | Blazer11: but that is the source code; then you have to compile it yourself to use it, and if you don't know this already, you're probably going to have difficulties |
| 03:52.34 | dan2 | dutchfish: cool, how's nvidia support? |
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| 03:52.55 | dutchfish | dan2, actually that still sucks a bit, )xserver-xorg issues |
| 03:53.02 | dan2 | :( |
| 03:53.10 | dutchfish | dan2, but 2d works |
| 03:53.13 | gener1c | how do you burn .daa on gnome baker? |
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| 03:53.37 | catsup | pft, dpkg's advice on 'compile' is horrid |
| 03:53.55 | dutchfish | dan2, but i expect that solved soon |
| 03:54.38 | gener1c | how does one burn a .daa image? |
| 03:54.50 | Blazer11 | catsup so do i even need the git-core package installed? |
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| 03:55.02 | dan2 | gener1c: I think you need the application tadaaaaaaah |
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| 03:55.16 | gener1c | lol!!! |
| 03:55.29 | catsup | gener1c: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Access_Archive |
| 03:55.39 | gener1c | i think that its a clonecd image |
| 03:55.42 | Guerin | !compile |
| 03:55.42 | dpkg | tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand., but for an easier way to compile the kernel, apt-get install kernel-package, or something you should only do if you're SURE there isn't already a debian package that meets your needs, and never into places that could conflict with dpkg |
| 03:55.45 | gener1c | oh great thanks |
| 03:56.00 | Guerin | catsup: what's wrong with it? |
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| 03:57.39 | catsup | Guerin: it's not real n00b friendly |
| 03:57.53 | Guerin | catsup: compiling isn't something noobs ought to be doing |
| 03:58.11 | catsup | Blazer11: apparently yes; see http://www.x.org/wiki/ModularDevelopersGuide |
| 03:58.14 | dutchfish | !kp mantra |
| 03:58.14 | dpkg | kp mantra is, like, make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
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| 03:58.39 | se7en_ | !rsync |
| 03:58.39 | dpkg | i heard rsync is a superior network file synchronization program, you can find out more at http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/, or http://rsync.samba.org, or handy for downloading the latest kernel, eg: rsync -avz --partial rsync.kernel.org::pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.19.tar.bz2 /usr/local/home/peej/src/, or useful for backups as per http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ |
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| 03:59.23 | yigal | se7en_: I like duplicity my self a few more features |
| 03:59.33 | catsup | Guerin: well, I do wonder who "tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install" is for then |
| 04:00.07 | se7en_ | !duplicity |
| 04:00.19 | Guerin | catsup: if you don't like the factoid, change it. But be warned- if your changes are stupid, you'll be ridiculed. |
| 04:00.22 | yigal | ah, nothing yet |
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| 04:13.41 | Blazer11 | tanx catsup |
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| 04:23.37 | atula | hello. I need to write a cron job that runs every 5 mins, is it: 5 0-23 * * * command? |
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| 04:31.37 | catsup | atula: */12 * * * * |
| 04:32.12 | limaunion | atula, it could be 5 * * * * |
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| 04:32.36 | catsup | "5 * * * *" runs at 5 minutes after every hour |
| 04:32.47 | limaunion | atula, you're right... sorry |
| 04:35.02 | atula | catsup: what does /12 do? |
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| 04:36.34 | catsup | oh wait, that's every 12 minutes, i was being too clever; you just want */5 |
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| 04:39.28 | MegaPucko | . |
| 04:39.34 | fignew | ! |
| 04:39.57 | MegaPucko | Sorry, just checking if a registration with something was required to communicate |
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| 04:40.41 | sdubois92 | !remove gnome |
| 04:40.41 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about <install gnome>), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
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| 04:42.58 | MegaPucko | Downloaded a netinstall cd image, burnt it, installing now, all was great until installing "base system", got loads of corrupt packages so it fails. wondering if i could possibly force the installer to still let me install GRUB or possibly skip trying to use packages from CD and download off debian instad, since network and internet has been set up correctly |
| 04:43.19 | MegaPucko | however, all it does is whine about how base system installation failed and wants me to try it again and again |
| 04:43.43 | liable | if net is connected, it should have tried to get the packages from debian.org |
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| 04:44.52 | MegaPucko | doesn't it install base system off the CD?, was a 160 MB iso image |
| 04:45.14 | liable | it does if network isnt connected |
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| 04:46.22 | MegaPucko | odd, it did find the network card and dhcp server properly |
| 04:46.37 | nabs | can any one help me |
| 04:46.39 | rdz | hi all. www-data is running lynx and perl, althoug i never installed someting tat would use this programs. i suspect someone is exploiting some bug in a web-application. what can i do to investigate the problem? |
| 04:46.52 | nabs | i want to have a printer restriction for the print outs |
| 04:47.10 | nabs | i have this users but want to give them 500 sheets of paper every month |
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| 04:47.30 | sdubois92 | nabs: awesome idea |
| 04:47.42 | nabs | and if they exed they need to contact the admin |
| 04:47.56 | MegaPucko | liable, basicly, the network section says it was successful in finding my network connection, then it pops straight over to installation of base system, which is done from /cdrom, doesn't even let me ask it if it wants to use network installation |
| 04:48.00 | sdubois92 | boss want you to do that? |
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| 04:48.35 | nabs | well its for a small schoool here in belize |
| 04:48.40 | nulix | hi |
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| 04:49.13 | nulix | i'm performing some network tests and need a pingabble address outside my network can anyone provide one? |
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| 04:49.29 | jamesd_ | i beleve the unix print subsystem has that functionality for decades... shouldn't be very hard to set up though i haven't used cups in a production environment... |
| 04:49.33 | fignew | nulix: 4.2.2.2 |
| 04:49.40 | nulix | thank you |
| 04:49.48 | liable | MegaPucko: hmm, maybe my memory is bad, and it installs a basic set of tools before using the net, i was sure it downloaded if possible though |
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| 04:50.51 | MegaPucko | hmm, annoyingly enough i fear it does, would be great if i could just force it to download em instead since the cd seems to be corrupted |
| 04:51.19 | liable | check the cd (its at the bottom of the main menu) |
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| 04:52.46 | Rusty1 | could be a bad burn, but weird behavior |
| 04:53.03 | nulix | i think i found a bug in etch |
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| 04:53.45 | MegaPucko | Rusty1, quite likely the burn is bad, but i can't really redo it now, burnt it from the computer that i'm installing onto |
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| 04:54.03 | nulix | at /etc/sysctl.conf there is that ip forwarding |
| 04:54.04 | MegaPucko | well, i can get it to work if i could force grub onto it for booting old system, hmm |
| 04:54.13 | nulix | stuff |
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| 04:55.19 | Rusty1 | MegaPucko: any live cds around with grub on them ? |
| 04:55.54 | bier | any hints on syncing ~ 1 to 2 TB of date between 4 hosts in bidirectional way? |
| 04:56.01 | MegaPucko | nah, maybe this debian image with expert mode will let me force grub onto it |
| 04:56.16 | MegaPucko | omg, i think i know what's wrong, let me get back |
| 04:56.52 | bier | s/date/data/ |
| 04:57.23 | jamesd_ | bier |
| 04:57.31 | jamesd_ | NFS, CIFS ... rsync |
| 04:58.11 | bier | they do not sync in both directions... you can only replicate a site with those tools...? |
| 04:58.47 | jamesd_ | you can share 1-2 TB on one sever with the other 3... then they will allways be in sync.... |
| 04:59.27 | MegaPucko | Rusty1, liable, the errors that i ran into was due to silly mistake when partitioning, i accidently made the partition 20 mb instead of 20 gb. |
| 04:59.50 | MegaPucko | odd tho that the installer didn't complain about disk space, but rather claimed it to be corrupt files |
| 04:59.51 | bier | i have 4 hosts with "almost" the same data, but i want them to have the same date without losing something |
| 05:00.00 | bier | data |
| 05:00.01 | bier | man |
| 05:00.07 | MegaPucko | anyhow, fixed the partition, so it's installing now |
| 05:01.01 | jamesd_ | there are commercial solutions that do that... but really rsync can do it, but it won't be real lime... really nfs or cifs is a better solution.... put all he data on one server and share with the others. |
| 05:01.14 | jamesd_ | er real time |
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| 05:02.23 | bier | but the data will change in the future, every host is able to change some things... that's my problem |
| 05:02.38 | Guerin | bier: you need the circle-jerk |
| 05:03.06 | Guerin | bier: each host opens a share to the others, and a cron job runs periodically to sync them, if they're different |
| 05:03.12 | jamesd_ | do you want each server to have a copy of its own data or do you want all data to be shared so each server see's a common copy? |
| 05:04.17 | Guerin | bier: if you have more than a few hosts, the smart money is to do it in a circular fashion (z syncs off y, y syncs off x, x syncs off w , etc) so as to not destroy connectivity |
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| 05:05.07 | bier | imagine you have some mp3-files you want to share (that's not the case here, but it's good to explain it). host 1 changes some id3 tags or so, and all the other hosts should change their files on a sync too... |
| 05:05.19 | jamesd_ | of course syncing 1-2 TB of data puts a pretty big load on the system... even at 50MB/s requrires, 20 minutes to sync a TB |
| 05:05.45 | bier | yep, that's another problem |
| 05:06.20 | rdz | hi all. i know this is an old one, but i cannot find a solution that works once forever: how to get rid of the system beep? xset -b off works locally, but as soon as i ssh to another box, there is it again |
| 05:06.22 | jamesd_ | so share all the data... nia nfs or cifs... then any client can update any file or record and eveyone see's it instantly |
| 05:06.41 | bier | the case is: i have to sync to all the other hosts when one out of the four changes a file |
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| 05:06.57 | Guerin | bier: the point is that you do differential backups - rsync handles this easily. It hashes the files and copies them only if they're different, as they would be if the id3 was changed. |
| 05:06.59 | jamesd_ | all hosts see the same copy of the data... |
| 05:07.34 | Guerin | bier: it's easy to do once the initial sync is done, presuming there aren't huge changes. |
| 05:08.00 | Guerin | i mean - even if there ARE huge changes the principle is the same - it just takes longer |
| 05:08.11 | bier | Guerin: but what would happen if 2 hosts modified files? it would take (in the case of 4 hosts) take 4 sync-runs to let every host make the change |
| 05:08.47 | bier | so in some point they are not sync |
| 05:09.06 | Tramp | bier: you want a serverfarm see a consistent data-base. So you need a common storage. |
| 05:09.18 | Guerin | bier: yes, but those could happen concurrently using a circular distribution method, rather than a centralised distribution method |
| 05:09.33 | Guerin | Tramp: he wants that if he needs it to be real-time all the time |
| 05:09.54 | Tramp | Guerin: I still wait to hear his requirements. I doubt they are known. |
| 05:09.59 | jamesd_ | bier, which host would have priority... if server A and B both update the same block of a file... whose copy is the most valid? rsync won't handle it. |
| 05:10.00 | Guerin | bier: yes, there will always be a delay between changes on one server manifesting on others under this model. |
| 05:10.15 | bier | there is in fact no host with priority |
| 05:10.24 | bier | they are priorized all the same |
| 05:10.24 | Guerin | bier: then you run into trouble. |
| 05:10.30 | bier | mmh |
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| 05:10.44 | Guerin | you would need some means of automatically duplicating the files. That way lies madness. |
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| 05:11.13 | bier | i have to think about that again |
| 05:11.21 | Guerin | a centralised dataset would indeed be the way forward in that case - it'd solve that problem, and the time-sync problem |
| 05:11.41 | bier | true, true |
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| 05:12.02 | Tramp | bier: good idea. Formulate your requirements (amount of data, max. time allowed for "unsynced" etc.). Then evaluate the alternatives. |
| 05:12.25 | jamesd_ | bier, if centralized storage will not work... get out your check book.. and add more 0's for ever kilometer away each server is from the others. |
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| 05:13.04 | Guerin | heh |
| 05:13.09 | bier | ;) |
| 05:13.33 | bier | i will think about all that again... |
| 05:13.49 | bier | now at least i have a few more ideas, so thank you all |
| 05:16.53 | bier | thought of something like syrep (http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/syrep/), but that still doesn't meet all the things i need. |
| 05:17.09 | bier | anyway, thanks for all your ideas, they'll help me a lot |
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| 05:18.16 | tuntun | Hi. How could I set apt-get to keep only the latest updates for use with APTonCD? |
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| 05:26.32 | tuntun | How might I set apt-get to keep only the latest updates for use with APTonCD? |
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| 05:32.25 | cizzi | what do I have to run in my crontab daily to see if my user's exceeded their disk quota soft limit? |
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| 05:34.29 | jamesd_ | be a good admin, set there hard quota 1k less than there softquota.... no need to check no rule breaking... all is good ;-) |
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| 05:35.02 | Peliask | I'm having problems with debian on my laptop =[ |
| 05:35.19 | cizzi | james - thanks for the tip, so i don't need the cron at all to advise them by email correct? |
| 05:35.58 | jamesd_ | cizzi, no need to advise them.. they exceed quota, writes fail.. the kernel takes care of notifications... |
| 05:36.14 | Peliask | At first I had to install debian with acpi=off, and now when I start up debian I get "PnPBIOS: Node number 0x0 is out of sequence" and a ton of errors about fans right after...then the system runs |
| 05:36.19 | Peliask | I don't understand |
| 05:36.19 | cizzi | jamesd_ - thankyou |
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| 05:37.11 | tuntun | How can I set apt-get to keep only the latest updates for use with APTonCD? |
| 05:38.00 | tuntun | I was wondering how I could download all the updates for gutsy for the purpose of offline updating multiple machines? |
| 05:39.45 | jamesd_ | cizzi, for other tips on how to be a better sysadmin check out http://members.iinet.net.au/~bofh/ |
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| 05:41.49 | cizzi | jamesd_ - is there a utility for bandwidth quota in debian apt-get? |
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| 05:52.58 | maddash | cizzi: wondershaper |
| 05:53.05 | cizzi | ty |
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| 05:54.48 | Gokee2 | There was a command using a command that I use all the time that I forgot that watched a file..... In other words what command cat I use to display the end of a file updating when the file is updated? Eg I want to watch a log file |
| 05:54.58 | cizzi | tail -f |
| 05:56.01 | Gokee2 | cizzi, Ah! I should never have forgot that! Thanks :) |
| 05:56.10 | cizzi | welcome |
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| 06:02.21 | cizzi | maddash - just finished reading the docs for wondershaper, I didn't really see a quota feature, or did I miss it? its basically to set limits for upload and download speeds and to balance the load of tcp/ip traffic |
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| 06:02.30 | nullvoid | hello |
| 06:03.24 | Nyle | hello |
| 06:03.59 | jetscreamer | damn, we coulda done the three stooges |
| 06:04.03 | jetscreamer | but i blew it |
| 06:04.10 | Nyle | \o/ |
| 06:04.11 | Nyle | lol |
| 06:04.12 | Nyle | \o/ |
| 06:04.15 | nullvoid | I had downloaded linux live image, but why I am unable to boot from it? |
| 06:04.30 | jetscreamer | we don't know we don't have a linux live image |
| 06:04.39 | jetscreamer | you'll have to check with the guys who made it |
| 06:04.48 | nullvoid | I just downloaded debian-live-40r0-rc1-i386-xfce-USB.img |
| 06:05.01 | nullvoid | and I did dd if=debian-live-40r0-rc1-i386-xfce-USB.img of=/dev/sdc |
| 06:05.18 | jetscreamer | !live |
| 06:05.18 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides prebuilt Debian live system images and allows to create your own. http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ and #debian-live, or http://live.debian.net/live-webhelper/ |
| 06:05.28 | nullvoid | i download from debian live for usb |
| 06:05.33 | jetscreamer | #debian-live |
| 06:05.46 | jetscreamer | i don't know |
| 06:05.52 | jetscreamer | never did that |
| 06:06.34 | nullvoid | actually I want to get my debian boot from my usb drive |
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| 06:07.27 | mynullvoid | ops |
| 06:07.35 | mynullvoid | I followed instruction from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB |
| 06:07.54 | mynullvoid | and got the image from http://live.debian.net/ |
| 06:08.30 | mynullvoid | the exact file I downloaded is http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/4.0_r0-rc1/i386/usb-hdd/debian-live-40r0-rc1-i386-xfce-USB.img |
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| 06:09.58 | mynullvoid | is there better way for me to do it? |
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| 06:11.46 | dondelelcaro | mynullvoid: does your bios support booting from usb? |
| 06:11.52 | mynullvoid | sure |
| 06:12.11 | dondelelcaro | mynullvoid: then in what way is it failing? |
| 06:12.12 | mynullvoid | dondelelcaro: I am able to use img from pendrivelinux |
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| 06:13.07 | mynullvoid | dondelelcaro: I got the splash screen and when I press enter it says missing \vmlinux |
| 06:13.20 | mynullvoid | dondelelcaro: if I type vmlinux it boot and later got kernel panic |
| 06:13.31 | mynullvoid | I tried both of the image the standard and the xfce |
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| 06:15.21 | dondelelcaro | mynullvoid: what precisely is the kernel panic message? |
| 06:15.54 | mynullvoid | ops! let me reboot and I will be back with the message |
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| 06:21.04 | qrck | does anyone of you know the issue with dvd+rw recording ? my burner tells me the media is not capable of blanking ....neither wodim,cdrecord,dvdrecord,growisofs nor dvd+rw-tools is able to what's up and workarounds ? |
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| 06:21.18 | qrck | sorry for offtopic... |
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| 06:23.42 | netgear | i need to pass the dir where my linux source build directory is, where might that be? |
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| 06:30.19 | shamrock | some experiments with normalization went slightly wrong and now I have dupilicates of some mp3 files as mp4a in the same directories. Does anyone know of a program which will remove one or the other if the other exists in a directory hierarchy? |
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| 06:31.17 | rdz | shamrock, can't you just remove all mp4a files? |
| 06:31.30 | rdz | rm *.mp4a |
| 06:33.02 | Peliask | At first I had to install debian with acpi=off, and now when I start up debian I get "PnPBIOS: Node number 0x0 is out of sequence" and a ton of errors about fans right after...then the system runs |
| 06:33.08 | Peliask | can anyone help? |
| 06:33.13 | netgear | shamrock: you can ask in #bash , the know how to do that |
| 06:33.21 | shamrock | rdz: no. firstly that doesn't deal with a directory hierarchy and secondly it doesn't check if the mp3 also exists. there may be cases where the mp4a is the original and there is no mp3. |
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| 06:34.33 | nullvoid | dondelelcaro: VFS: Cannot open root device "<NULL>" on unknown-block (104,7) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic - not syncing VPS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (104,7) |
| 06:34.39 | netgear | Peliask: you have the latest bios on your pc? |
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| 06:35.00 | jcesar | hi |
| 06:35.24 | nullvoid | that what I get when I dd the downloaded img from debian live :( |
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| 06:36.13 | nullvoid | when I dd this image http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/4.0_r0-rc1/i386/usb-hdd/debian-live-40r0-rc1-i386-xfce-USB.img |
| 06:36.23 | nullvoid | I get error VFS: Cannot open root device "<NULL>" on unknown-block (104,7) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic - not syncing VPS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (104,7) |
| 06:36.51 | liable | 104,7 ? |
| 06:38.39 | rdz | shamrock, ah i see. i misunderstood.... sorry for the noise |
| 06:39.09 | Peliask | netgear: yes |
| 06:40.35 | nullvoid | yes |
| 06:40.37 | tuntun | How can I set apt-get to keep only the latest updates for use with APTonCD? |
| 06:40.37 | tuntun | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.47 | nullvoid | liable: what does it mean? |
| 06:41.29 | liable | nullvoid: dunno, i missed where you said it was a livecd image |
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| 06:42.27 | nullvoid | liable I had been trying to install debian on my usb |
| 06:43.11 | nullvoid | liable: I tried many ways even following http://feraga.com/library/howto_install_a_debian_gnu_linux_system_onto_a_usb_flash_thumb_drive |
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| 06:45.08 | nullvoid | liable: everything was ok until I try to mount it |
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| 06:46.18 | mynullvoid | huh |
| 06:47.08 | richd | hey all.anyone know what the crap openal really is? is it like an alternatice to alsa or something? I have a prog that will only work through openal and I get get it to work. I found something that says if you disable esd it will work, but i don't have esd on here... |
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| 06:47.19 | richd | alternative* |
| 06:47.31 | richd | can't get it to work* |
| 06:47.38 | richd | wow i can't type... |
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| 06:48.52 | streuner_ | richd: is ESD running? |
| 06:49.04 | richd | no. esd in not installed |
| 06:49.14 | richd | killall esd kills nothing |
| 06:49.23 | richd | and the package ESounD is not installed |
| 06:49.25 | streuner_ | ps aux | grep esd |
| 06:49.39 | richd | 0 results |
| 06:49.53 | richd | so i know esd isn't going. |
| 06:50.27 | richd | hmm, i have an idea, brb |
| 06:50.33 | streuner_ | hm, what does README or such tell you about "sound", any advice? |
| 06:50.34 | gigo | can I copy DVD using readom? |
| 06:51.04 | richd | yeah, nothing |
| 06:51.13 | richd | gigo: use dd |
| 06:51.33 | streuner_ | richd: does the app. have a name? ;-) |
| 06:51.49 | gigo | richd: yes, that's what I am using finally. |
| 06:51.50 | richd | dd if='input device\dvd' of=/home/gigo/isos/DVD.iso' |
| 06:51.55 | gigo | when I tried readom it said: sectors=0-0 will read nothing, sectors=0-1 will read one sector starting from 0 |
| 06:51.57 | gigo | why? |
| 06:51.59 | richd | UT2004 |
| 06:52.27 | streuner_ | just a wild guess, you are prolly need to use OSS then |
| 06:52.42 | richd | does that wrap around openal? |
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| 06:53.15 | gigo | streuner_: what is an OSS? |
| 06:53.18 | richd | I went and grabbed a bunch of also and oss stuff hoping it would add more options than opanal, but none showed up so i got rid of them again |
| 06:53.28 | streuner_ | !oss |
| 06:53.28 | dpkg | it has been said that oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very <non-free> and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the <Halloween> document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels (see <ALSA> for 2.6 info). OldSchoolSound |
| 06:53.38 | richd | open sound system |
| 06:53.43 | richd | ah |
| 06:53.43 | richd | yeah |
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| 06:54.39 | streuner_ | richd: there is a sound module which give you the chance to use OSS within ALSA |
| 06:54.54 | richd | so if i grab alsa-oss |
| 06:54.59 | richd | k, |
| 06:55.06 | richd | whoops |
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| 06:55.17 | richd | well, yeha |
| 06:55.20 | Guerin | Alsaheimer? |
| 06:55.25 | Guerin | snd-pcm-oss |
| 06:55.26 | richd | do i need to create conf file? |
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| 06:55.32 | Guerin | richd: no. |
| 06:55.36 | richd | k |
| 06:55.39 | streuner_ | !win Guerini |
| 06:55.39 | dpkg | Congratulations, Guerini! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 06:55.52 | Guerin | ut2k4 still might not work without a sdl wrapper |
| 06:56.10 | Guerin | google ut2k4 sdl alsa for options |
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| 06:56.37 | perfector | everything is so tied to gnome-desktop-environment.. sound-juicer, gnome-games, just about everything |
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| 06:56.48 | nu11 | huh |
| 06:56.51 | richd | thankfully not |
| 06:56.54 | Guerin | perfector: that's the gnome business model |
| 06:56.57 | richd | kde has alot of stuff too |
| 06:57.11 | Guerin | that's the kde business model too |
| 06:57.13 | richd | (*kde here*) |
| 06:57.23 | perfector | what if i dont want those stupid games or i want to remove sound-juicer |
| 06:57.39 | richd | lol, dont isntall the metapackage for it then |
| 06:57.47 | Guerin | perfector: remove them, and reinstall gnome-base and the other things you wanr |
| 06:57.55 | Guerin | or gnome-core or what it's called |
| 06:58.10 | perfector | the worst of the lot is evolution.. its like gnome wont run without evolution |
| 06:58.10 | streuner_ | !install gnome |
| 06:58.11 | dpkg | To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <set up x>. |
| 06:59.03 | perfector | i dont know y im cribbing so much. just a bit pissed. i dont even contribute to gnome... gee |
| 06:59.09 | richd | streuner: do you know how to set up also to use oss? |
| 06:59.27 | richd | alsa |
| 07:00.12 | streuner_ | Guerin just told you |
| 07:00.20 | richd | oh, he was right? |
| 07:00.20 | streuner_ | scroll up |
| 07:00.23 | richd | amazing |
| 07:00.32 | richd | haha, sorry to doubt |
| 07:00.42 | perfector | dpkg: Guerin: thanls... anyways |
| 07:00.45 | richd | but i didn't hear conf from str |
| 07:00.47 | perfector | *thanks |
| 07:01.27 | richd | snd-pcm-oss |
| 07:01.29 | richd | ? |
| 07:01.37 | richd | I can't find that in apt |
| 07:01.57 | streuner_ | apis:/# modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 07:01.58 | streuner_ | apis:/# |
| 07:02.03 | richd | ah |
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| 07:02.20 | richd | and I do that after i have alsa-oss, right? |
| 07:03.13 | tonsofpcs | ok, so my system decided it wanted to die on me... I got it up and at a console, df shows Size and Used, but 0 Avail, Used is about 500 MB < Size.... any clue how I can fix this? fsck doesn't do much |
| 07:03.47 | streuner_ | richd: modinfo snd-pcm-oss |
| 07:03.50 | richd | do you use apt-get\aptitude at all? |
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| 07:04.14 | richd | tonsofpcs: for me, i run out of room sometime because I never clean my package cache |
| 07:04.36 | richd | after i do that, then i get back about 700mb |
| 07:05.05 | tonsofpcs | richd: I just deleted 100 MB of files and it still says 0 FREE |
| 07:05.12 | richd | hmm |
| 07:05.18 | richd | deleted of recycled? |
| 07:05.21 | richd | or* |
| 07:05.25 | tonsofpcs | rm -rf'd |
| 07:05.28 | richd | kk |
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| 07:06.21 | richd | i once had a hdd that was going bad and i lost around 300mb on it from something similar. I would del stuff and it wouldn't change that amount free. I was able to recover the 300 be reformatting it... |
| 07:06.30 | tonsofpcs | is there a way to force [whatever] to recheck and recalculate free space? |
| 07:06.46 | richd | i dunno of one |
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| 07:08.10 | tonsofpcs | shows Size 13.1G Used 12.5G Available 0 Use% 100%... [in df -h] |
| 07:08.34 | richd | by the way, streuner and Guerin deserve much thanks |
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| 07:08.57 | richd | because Now i have sound in UT2k4 |
| 07:09.01 | tonsofpcs | :D |
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| 07:09.05 | tonsofpcs | sound is good |
| 07:09.05 | richd | so, thanks a ton you two |
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| 07:09.10 | tonsofpcs | disk space is better :( |
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| 07:09.14 | richd | lol |
| 07:09.25 | perfector | how can i get the package kqemu on etch |
| 07:09.27 | perfector | ?? |
| 07:09.31 | richd | i wish i knew how to help you |
| 07:09.50 | perfector | there is only qemu |
| 07:09.55 | richd | the modules? |
| 07:10.04 | richd | i know of kqemu |
| 07:10.04 | streuner | !info kqemu etch |
| 07:10.30 | streuner | !info kqemu |
| 07:10.51 | perfector | streuner i didnt not understand |
| 07:10.55 | streuner | ask #debian-kde |
| 07:11.08 | richd | perfector: For me, i would do 'sudo apt-get install kqemu-modules-2.6.18-5-686' |
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| 07:11.25 | richd | if you are talking about the modules |
| 07:11.52 | richd | there is also kqemu-common |
| 07:11.55 | perfector | richd: i triedsearching for kqemu but found none |
| 07:12.08 | richd | i just searched and got both of those |
| 07:12.34 | richd | kqemu-common and a kqemu-source. the the kqemu-modules... |
| 07:13.10 | richd | typo? bad repository? |
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| 07:13.16 | richd | you should be able to see them |
| 07:14.01 | perfector | richd: no luck still.. but since u have told me the name its easier to get it now... thanks |
| 07:14.52 | richd | well, I am off to bed\ut2004... see yalls later. goodluck tonsofpcs. remember about package search as far as names go online too, perfector |
| 07:14.56 | richd | BYE! |
| 07:16.17 | streuner | http://blog.unixlore.net/2006/03/using-qemu-and-kqemu-under-debian-or.html |
| 07:16.48 | streuner | perfector: ^^^^ |
| 07:17.20 | reZo | how do i disable all sound on my debian etch machine |
| 07:17.21 | perfector | streuner thanks ... checking it out |
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| 07:17.38 | perfector | reZo: disable it in bioa |
| 07:17.42 | perfector | *bios |
| 07:17.45 | reZo | kk |
| 07:17.46 | reZo | cheers |
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| 07:18.26 | richd | hey, forgot one thing. I am trying to use a font for on screen display |
| 07:18.44 | richd | but i am trying to find out what fonts i have |
| 07:19.16 | richd | stuff like 'bitsream vera sana' obviously doesn't work. I dunno all the stuff with * and - and such |
| 07:19.19 | richd | sans* |
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| 07:19.35 | richd | so I am just trying to find a list of installed fonts |
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| 07:22.08 | pragma_ | I am infinitely finite. |
| 07:23.06 | streuner | !listvals dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 07:23.07 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'dpkg-reconfigure console-data' by value (3): kbdconfig ;; keymap ;; drcd. |
| 07:23.49 | streuner | !keymap |
| 07:23.49 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx, or in console you can also use loadkeys (for once) |
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| 07:25.08 | PiousMinion | how can I find out what package provides a certain file with apt? |
| 07:25.39 | richd | PiousMinion: i kinda don't think it works that way |
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| 07:25.55 | richd | maybe for initial files that are in the package |
| 07:26.01 | richd | is that what you mean? |
| 07:26.03 | liable | PiousMinion: dpkg -S file or apt-file if its not installed |
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| 07:26.13 | richd | there you go |
| 07:26.15 | PiousMinion | thanks |
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| 07:26.18 | PiousMinion | :P |
| 07:26.27 | streuner | richd: in order to setup console fonts? |
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| 07:26.38 | richd | streuner: nope. X |
| 07:26.53 | richd | i am using osd and one option if font |
| 07:27.07 | streuner | !ttf xf4 |
| 07:27.07 | dpkg | For info on how to get True Type Fonts working under XF4, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0011/msg01817.html, or http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html for up-to-date instructions for Woody and greater.. To make true type fonts to work on sid you'll need to configure X to use defoma fonts. Install the x-ttcidfont-conf to do this and then install the true type packages, for example msttcorefonts |
| 07:27.14 | richd | such as --font='-b&h-lucida-medium-r-normal-*-34-*-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1' |
| 07:27.23 | streuner | read the URL of Paul then |
| 07:27.27 | richd | kk |
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| 07:29.46 | richd | pauls site isn't there anymore... |
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| 07:31.11 | richd | but i got and idea,,, |
| 07:32.04 | Blazer11 | anyone know how to compile xorg in git? ive ran build.sh, not wht to do next |
| 07:34.06 | richd | I dont |
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| 07:59.36 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 07:59.36 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, qotd103 is <punchik> everytime i use google i get a message that says its no safe , and other people can read what im writing because its not encrypted <Guerin> punchik: do you care if people see what you google for? <punchik> yes <punchik> i dont want people to know that i use to look for shemales |
| 07:59.58 | liable | gold |
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| 08:06.56 | archpollux | hi all |
| 08:07.09 | archpollux | any news on the debian multiarch distro? |
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| 08:09.15 | liable | eh? debian *is* a multiarch distro |
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| 08:13.23 | archpollux | are you talking about being able to run binaries of different architecture on the same installation? |
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| 08:18.12 | abrocadabro | after I installed beryl from debian.beryl-project.org, I only have a partially working X, e.g. xterm will not refresh, any ideas? |
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| 08:26.39 | enouf | ok, so why does "auto-apt check <file>" return nothing, and yet, "auto-apt search <file>" does, i already ran "auto-apt update" (and update-local) -- "apt-file search file" returns more hits overall and in various Archs |
| 08:28.07 | enouf | i even tried 'check -f' |
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| 08:29.54 | nullvoid | hello all |
| 08:30.27 | nullvoid | I am trying to install debian on usb following guide from http://feraga.com/node/25/30 |
| 08:30.28 | tonsofpcs | enouf: uh... um... uh... um... broken? :) |
| 08:30.54 | enouf | "auto-apt search <file>" seems to come close to what apt-file returns - but misses out the other Archs (i suppose that's normal, since auto-apt et al know which Arch i'm on, and auto-apt is used to actually retrieve and install files, so i guess it's Arch specific then .. ok) but it -also- missed a few i386 pkgs (my Arch) |
| 08:30.55 | nullvoid | at step VIII. System Configuration I am unable to mount /dev/sdc1 |
| 08:30.58 | nullvoid | VIII. System Configuration |
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| 08:31.29 | nullvoid | I am getting error saying Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted? when installling package |
| 08:31.43 | enouf | the Arch listing though should be an option, but i understand why it is the way it is ... |
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| 08:33.46 | enouf | here's an example of the difference in results returned http://pastebin.ca/raw/836201 |
| 08:35.06 | tonsofpcs | enouf: that seems right... maybe man auto-apt can tell you how to list archs? |
| 08:35.46 | enouf | auto-apt is much faster though (since the cache (it's db info) is local, in a file) .. whereas apt-file is slow (but seeems more robust, complete), kinda like comparing dlocate (fast) to dpkg -S (slow) .. |
| 08:35.57 | enouf | tonsofpcs: i checked, nada |
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| 08:36.33 | enouf | tonsofpcs: 1st thing i do is that and other docs like /usr/share/doc/auto-apt/README |
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| 08:37.36 | enouf | i just hate the idea of it 'missing' some hits, because then i can never say definitively whether a file is avaiable or not |
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| 08:38.29 | abrocadabro | how do I downgrade xorg server ? |
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| 08:39.08 | enouf | !downgrade |
| 08:39.08 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. |
| 08:39.25 | enouf | you could just install older pkgs i suppose |
| 08:39.41 | abrocadabro | ah, okay, will try that now |
| 08:39.46 | pengwyn | wouldn't you remove the current ones first? |
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| 08:39.51 | pengwyn | just askin |
| 08:40.05 | enouf | better make sure you get the correct ones though - do "dpkg -l xserver-xorg*" |
| 08:40.29 | pengwyn | If I had to do it I would likely apt-get remove and purge |
| 08:40.39 | pengwyn | then install whatever |
| 08:40.40 | enouf | pengwyn: not sure, i don't downgrade - but if one does, there's no x anymore ;-) |
| 08:40.59 | pengwyn | yeah well, going to the console obviously |
| 08:41.03 | enouf | (which is fine by me, and easy to do - but maybe not others) |
| 08:41.06 | pengwyn | at worst reinstall |
| 08:41.11 | enouf | haha |
| 08:41.15 | enouf | you made a funny |
| 08:41.31 | enouf | reinstall what? the OS |
| 08:41.38 | pengwyn | no the xserver |
| 08:41.53 | enouf | which consists of many packages |
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| 08:42.09 | enouf | wtf is with this IRC lag? |
| 08:42.13 | enouf | anyone else? |
| 08:42.19 | pengwyn | your not laggin here |
| 08:42.22 | abrocadabro | how do I download that particular version of Xorg-Xserver? do I have to go to the actual debian site to download it and then install it? would I be able to do it with apt-get? |
| 08:42.40 | enouf | it's not much, but just enough to piss me off |
| 08:43.02 | pengwyn | abrocadabro: just make sure you back up your important data whatever way you decide |
| 08:43.11 | enouf | abrocadabro: man apt-get, you can tell it to install a certain version - as i said better know your pkgnames and versions |
| 08:43.21 | pengwyn | abrocadabro: me I don't have a problem with no x |
| 08:43.37 | enouf | abrocadabro: and if you installed a 3rd party proprietary poop driver - well, have fun with that |
| 08:45.20 | pengwyn | maybe research the package names for an earlier version of debian |
| 08:45.27 | pengwyn | build a list and go |
| 08:45.33 | enouf | nullvoid: is devpts mounted? |
| 08:45.41 | enouf | nullvoid: are you in a chroot env? |
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| 08:46.25 | enouf | nullvoid: and "I am unable to mount /dev/sdc1" does not equate to what your error message is |
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| 08:47.15 | enouf | what happens when you try to mount /dev/sda1 ? are you sure your USB stick dev/name is sda1 ? does a formatted partition exist on it? do "file -s /dev/sda1" |
| 08:47.34 | enouf | output of fdisk -l may help |
| 08:47.49 | pengwyn | and df -ha |
| 08:48.06 | pengwyn | but not in this channel |
| 08:48.07 | archpollux | i trying to boot into xen and i get: elf_init: not an ELF binary |
| 08:48.10 | enouf | pengwyn: that'll only show mounted partitions |
| 08:48.34 | enouf | pengwyn: cat /proc/partitions however will/should show all |
| 08:48.58 | pengwyn | enouf, had that happen before, mount usb stick #1, yank it out, mount #2 blagh.. no umount |
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| 08:50.44 | enouf | pengwyn: udevmonitor and dmesg are also useful |
| 08:50.59 | enouf | just a fyi ;-) |
| 08:51.40 | pengwyn | i hear ya. at the time I knew I screwed up |
| 08:51.57 | pengwyn | yanking usb's out and pluggin different ones in |
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| 08:53.45 | enouf | nice :-p |
| 08:54.11 | pengwyn | fstab and mtab typos don't help too. |
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| 08:54.28 | enouf | heh |
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| 08:55.24 | pengwyn | even more fun, plug things in, edit fstab / mtab, plug others in |
| 08:56.21 | profobofucho | hello, i have an old machine, pentium 166 with 32m, i installed sarge in the past with no problems, now i want to install etch from netinst and i get this message when discovering network hardware "ethernet card not found", previously installer asks me for extra driver in floppy. i have tried 3 ethernets with the same results, where can my problem be? |
| 08:57.22 | pengwyn | what kinda card is it #1 (find that out) |
| 08:57.39 | profobofucho | there are all supported by linux kernel |
| 08:57.48 | profobofucho | pci ethernets |
| 08:58.32 | pengwyn | prolly the module ain't in the netinstall |
| 08:58.46 | profobofucho | what is prolly? |
| 08:58.53 | pengwyn | probably sorry |
| 08:59.00 | profobofucho | ahps |
| 08:59.11 | profobofucho | i think i might have some problems with pnp |
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| 09:00.38 | enouf | i have a p150 32MB babyAT - it won't boot any cdroms other than DSL (2.4 kernel) or win98 OEM CD i have |
| 09:00.50 | profobofucho | i have installed sarge in the past |
| 09:01.14 | enouf | sarge uses 2.4 as well - i'm still perplexed what about isolinux has changed |
| 09:01.26 | enouf | it can use 2.4.27 or 2.6.8 |
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| 09:01.33 | enouf | sarge, that is |
| 09:01.42 | enouf | or later if you upgrade naturally |
| 09:01.48 | profobofucho | yes but the installer used 2.6 or am i wrong? |
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| 09:02.15 | pengwyn | 2.6.18 |
| 09:02.24 | pengwyn | etch ^^ sorry |
| 09:02.32 | enouf | profobofucho: Sarge ? it uses what you tell it to .. IIRC, you select the kernel to use towards the end - or there's the boot options too |
| 09:02.44 | enouf | Etch is 2.6.18 |
| 09:02.58 | profobofucho | yes, but the kernel used before you _install_ your system |
| 09:03.06 | pengwyn | 2.4x |
| 09:03.07 | enouf | profobofucho: not sure offhand |
| 09:03.22 | pengwyn | the one before is 2.4x |
| 09:03.22 | enouf | for sarge? or for etch - etch it's 2.6.18 i'm pretty sure |
| 09:03.31 | enouf | i ave an old install log - yes .18 |
| 09:03.46 | pengwyn | 2.4x sarge preinstall booting |
| 09:03.49 | enouf | clarify ffs |
| 09:03.51 | profobofucho | ohhhh |
| 09:03.57 | profobofucho | ohhh, that's my problem then |
| 09:04.07 | profobofucho | y will install sarge and upgrade from there, THANKS |
| 09:04.15 | enouf | sure - sounds good |
| 09:04.18 | enouf | profobofucho: wait |
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| 09:04.21 | pengwyn | in Sarge, then I have to download 2.6 kernel |
| 09:04.27 | enouf | profobofucho: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 09:04.40 | pengwyn | yeah maybe upgrade |
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| 09:05.26 | drwahl | in /etc/apt/sources.list, will "lenny" and "testing" point to the same packages (obviously for now, until lenny is stable) on the debian repos? |
| 09:05.28 | enouf | profobofucho: it's possible that during Etch netinstall you can simply alt-f2 and modprobe your NIC driver |
| 09:05.56 | profobofucho | i tried, no results |
| 09:06.08 | profobofucho | afk |
| 09:06.10 | enouf | or enable PnP BIOS == Enable in BIOS - or allocate, or pass the kernel the ISA i/o port range and resources it needs (if it's ISA) |
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| 09:06.48 | enouf | drwahl: yes |
| 09:06.56 | pengwyn | profobofucho: what kind of nic cards (I ask again) |
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| 09:07.28 | pengwyn | NE1000, 3c509, realtek |
| 09:07.34 | drwahl | enouf: so, if i were keeping a copy of a sources.list file for future use, putting "testing" in there should always work? |
| 09:08.01 | enouf | drwahl: testing follows testing, lenny becomes stable once it's released |
| 09:08.11 | pengwyn | I just bought some realtek cards for like $4 bucks a piece tonight |
| 09:08.20 | pengwyn | realtek 8139's |
| 09:08.29 | enouf | !tell drwahl about releases |
| 09:08.34 | drwahl | enouf: correct, i understand that, but i guess my question is, for the foreseeable future, there will always be a testing? |
| 09:08.50 | enouf | sure, i certainly hope so ;-) |
| 09:08.54 | drwahl | ok |
| 09:08.57 | drwahl | :) |
| 09:09.00 | drwahl | thank you |
| 09:09.01 | enouf | heh |
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| 09:09.05 | enouf | np |
| 09:09.25 | pengwyn | I don't think an etch netinstall will detect arcnet cards |
| 09:09.29 | perfector | can someone recommend a good lightweight caching nameserver for a single user |
| 09:09.35 | profobofucho | donwloading... pengwyn i tried with rtl8139, 3com900b and amdtek (dont know wich model exactly) |
| 09:09.38 | perfector | can someone recommend a good lightweight caching nameserver for a single user |
| 09:09.52 | pengwyn | profobofucho: sounds like a hardware problem |
| 09:10.20 | profobofucho | i really do not think so. it's irq problem |
| 09:10.31 | pengwyn | then yank some cards out |
| 09:10.43 | pengwyn | add em in after you get a basic OS up and runnin |
| 09:10.54 | profobofucho | i only have one installed, i tried with the three but not together |
| 09:10.57 | enouf | PCI ? try pci=routeirq or similar boot option |
| 09:11.06 | profobofucho | i tried pci=biosirq |
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| 09:11.12 | enouf | or just install sarge and upgrade ;-) |
| 09:11.19 | profobofucho | yes, i will do that! |
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| 09:11.28 | profobofucho | XD, thank you very much for your kind help |
| 09:12.00 | pengwyn | boot a knopix, download an etch ISO CD then ... never mind. Good Luck |
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| 09:13.07 | enouf | profobofucho: so your Etch netinstall is a CD? and no issue booting it i guess? or is this a pxe or other type of install (debootstrap) |
| 09:13.15 | pengwyn | my current etch is actually a netinstall |
| 09:14.05 | enouf | i'm asking concerning my CD booting issue, trying to narrow in on the precise issue - i really think it's an isolinux issue though - since i see it flash by real fast, then it just ends up booting the HDD |
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| 09:14.59 | pengwyn | he only has 32M of ram, that's not much. |
| 09:15.13 | enouf | me too, on the p150 i'm referring to |
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| 09:15.18 | pengwyn | ah. |
| 09:15.25 | profobofucho | it is a cd and i had no issues botting |
| 09:15.45 | enouf | profobofucho: thanks for clarifying |
| 09:15.56 | profobofucho | your welcome |
| 09:16.22 | enouf | i even tried grml.org small version - nada |
| 09:16.37 | profobofucho | did you try freebsd? |
| 09:16.45 | enouf | not yet ;-) |
| 09:16.53 | profobofucho | i would |
| 09:17.05 | enouf | i think i have an o;d Spanish version laying around |
| 09:17.08 | enouf | rofl |
| 09:17.37 | enouf | i accidentally d/l the wrong language years ago when i was going to test drive it .. like 3.0 or something |
| 09:17.58 | enouf | got stuck at the spanush prompts, haven;t touched it since :-P |
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| 09:18.25 | pengwyn | damn, I got two debian 4.0 etch DVD's unopened |
| 09:18.44 | pengwyn | linux magazine issue 83 |
| 09:18.50 | profobofucho | i have to leave, good luck! thanks again. |
| 09:18.50 | pengwyn | I bought it twice |
| 09:18.52 | enouf | er, updated packages are in the repos ;-) |
| 09:18.56 | enouf | oh, heh |
| 09:19.34 | pengwyn | if he'd stuck around I'd mail him a dvd for nothing |
| 09:19.58 | pengwyn | sound like he got it |
| 09:20.05 | enouf | that wouldn't help likely .. but nice gesture nonetheless |
| 09:20.27 | pengwyn | like i said I did the netinstall, then the magazines came |
| 09:20.37 | pengwyn | then i bought another magazine |
| 09:20.56 | pengwyn | like an idiot, buy the same magazine |
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| 09:21.06 | pengwyn | I did that on sarge too |
| 09:21.25 | pengwyn | can never have too many disks |
| 09:21.39 | pengwyn | welp time for me to shutup |
| 09:21.45 | pengwyn | (beer talkin) |
| 09:21.47 | perfector | pdnsd or lwres ???? suggestions pls |
| 09:21.51 | enouf | any pressed medium will have older pkgs, though with etch that;s not really the deal - (except for security and for kernel update/fixes and any really major app issues) |
| 09:22.28 | enouf | pengwyn: are the DVDs 4.0r0 r1 r2 ?? |
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| 09:22.42 | Nyle | r90 |
| 09:22.42 | enouf | (just curious) |
| 09:22.49 | Nyle | billion |
| 09:22.51 | enouf | zooma zoom zoom |
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| 09:23.03 | pengwyn | i'll open one |
| 09:23.11 | Nyle | my tummy feels funny |
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| 09:24.04 | pengwyn | r0 the buggy kernel one IIRC |
| 09:24.27 | enouf | oh yeah, some people do actually enjoy having a real book, and not having to deal with way overpriced ink, used for crappy inkjet bozomosaic printers |
| 09:24.42 | enouf | pengwyn: ok then ;-) |
| 09:24.52 | pengwyn | 20070407-12:57 i386/ad64/powerpc/source DVD #1 |
| 09:25.10 | enouf | ahh MultiDVD |
| 09:25.14 | enouf | multiArch |
| 09:25.19 | pengwyn | yep |
| 09:25.26 | enouf | that's cool |
| 09:25.31 | Nyle | tps reports? |
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| 09:26.16 | enouf | Nyle: bring me a pizza, i'm hungry |
| 09:26.25 | Nyle | ? |
| 09:26.59 | Nyle | what a dumb thing to say |
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| 09:35.04 | drwahl | i just installed rosegarden4 (via apt-get install rosegarden4) and when i try to open it, it says "System timer resolution too low... you are using a linux system with the kernel timer resolution set too low, contact distributor". what does this mean and what will it effect? |
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| 09:39.31 | cahoot | drwahl: grep HZ /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 09:41.49 | drwahl | cahoot: there are about 10 lines, what are you looking for? or do you want a pastebin? |
| 09:42.39 | logd | hi how do i setup wireless lan? mean i've installed wifi cards on 2 pcs and both see the corresponding wlan0 and i gave em ip address also if from client i call connects to a network called the name i gave mine but other network functions |
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| 09:42.47 | cahoot | drwahl: rosegarden wants system timer set to 1000 Hz |
| 09:42.51 | logd | doesn't works e.g. ping |
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| 09:43.11 | drwahl | here is the output http://rafb.net/p/IpolO823.html |
| 09:43.16 | cahoot | drwahl: debian defaults to 100 or 250? |
| 09:43.37 | drwahl | looks like 250 |
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| 09:43.51 | cahoot | right |
| 09:43.53 | drwahl | how does one go about changing that? do i have to recompile the kernel with that modification? |
| 09:43.59 | cahoot | right |
| 09:44.10 | drwahl | arg, not fancy m-a to assist me here? |
| 09:44.23 | cahoot | not a module so no |
| 09:44.27 | drwahl | what will happen if i do not change it? |
| 09:44.34 | drwahl | can i still get it to work? |
| 09:44.47 | cahoot | Put up with the poorer timing of a 250 Hz timer (if you want to get rid of the warning while continuing to use this timer, set the timer source to "system timer" rather than "(auto)"). |
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| 09:45.45 | drwahl | the error doesnt bother me so much, and i'm just screwing around to pass time, so i dont need anything fancy. so just leaving it should suffice as long as i get basic functionality |
| 09:45.57 | drwahl | i assume by Hz, its talking about the audio sampling? |
| 09:46.33 | cahoot | seems to be more of a warning than actual showstopper |
| 09:47.18 | cahoot | drwahl: http://rosegarden.wiki.sourceforge.net/Frequently+Asked+Questions#toc31 |
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| 09:48.05 | drwahl | ah, wiki FTW :) |
| 09:48.21 | streuner | !nickometer D_ReaL_PuNiShEr |
| 09:48.23 | dpkg | 'D_ReaL_PuNiShEr' is 99.760% lame, streuner |
| 09:48.27 | cahoot | google actually ;) |
| 09:52.20 | drwahl | any one know of a better program to creat music than rosegarden? dealing with midi seems to be a bit of a pain (in my setup) |
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| 09:57.22 | pengwyn | fruityloops o) |
| 09:58.21 | pengwyn | windows only ^ |
| 09:58.58 | drwahl | i'm looking for something debian related :) i have used fruityloops and prefer Acid if i am working in Windows (which is rare) |
| 09:59.22 | lhadji | drwahl - have a geeze around - http://linux-sound.org/ |
| 09:59.50 | drwahl | lhadji: will do |
| 10:00.56 | pengwyn | a fruityloops on debian would be killer. |
| 10:01.25 | pengwyn | native app... |
| 10:01.51 | pengwyn | then ya get into the whole vsti problem |
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| 10:02.23 | pengwyn | kinda like the photoshop plugin problem |
| 10:02.28 | xingu | drwahl: muse, softwerk |
| 10:02.47 | lhadji | pengwyn, 24bit ASIO sound would be a killer on linux. |
| 10:02.53 | CAiRO_ | when i start a gnome-terminal from command line, how can i set the encoding individually for each terminal? |
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| 10:03.59 | xingu | drwahl: you could always spin up hast+cubase :) |
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| 10:04.40 | pengwyn | there was a whole debian based distro for multimedia, the name escapes me now |
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| 10:05.45 | xingu | pengwyn: softwerk allegedly can eat vst/vsti happily. |
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| 10:07.29 | cahoot | demudi? |
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| 10:08.36 | xingu | s/hast/hatari/ |
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| 10:12.12 | pengwyn | some lexicons are hardware vsti. Although I don't see it here yet: http://ladspavst.linuxaudio.org/?q=node/905 (nice drupal site) |
| 10:13.29 | pengwyn | ^^^^^^^^ this message goes out to drwahl and lhadji and xingu |
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| 10:14.13 | pengwyn | WineAsio, theres a name you don't hear everyday |
| 10:14.26 | Mechdave | Hey all, Has anyone managed to successfully install the rt2400 driver into 2.6.18-5-686 kernel before? |
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| 10:15.05 | Mechdave | I was wondering if there is a patch I need to add to the source of the driver? |
| 10:15.14 | Mechdave | Mine will not compile |
| 10:15.42 | liable | put the errors on a pastebin |
| 10:16.19 | Mechdave | one second |
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| 10:17.36 | steinchen | hi all |
| 10:17.45 | steinchen | i am using openvpn on 3 debian machines.. 9mbit sdsl on each - server got 155mbit ...when i copy some stuff its bandwidth is about 70kbs.. when i start a 2nd copy process its getting 70kbs aswell (140 total) and so on and so on .. whats wrong there? should be around 900kbs |
| 10:17.47 | Mechdave | http://www.pastebin.org/13323 is all the errors |
| 10:20.51 | liable | Mechdave: hrm, thats odd, see if there is a newer or older one that compiles. i would guess older would be the bet |
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| 10:21.32 | steinchen | help please? |
| 10:21.41 | cast | steinchen: openvpn |
| 10:21.48 | cast | steinchen: erm, #openvpn |
| 10:21.50 | steinchen | noone answers there |
| 10:22.01 | Mechdave | liable, That is the old one :) I haven't patched it yet with the newer kernel patch, but I am not holding up my hopes |
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| 10:22.09 | ttz | hi there! I want to hack in a package source, but there is a huge number of build dependencies. Is there a way to automatically install them instead of doing it manuall? |
| 10:22.12 | cast | steinchen: mailing list post then? |
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| 10:22.27 | steinchen | cast, as usual, its quiet urgent :-( |
| 10:22.30 | Mechdave | I thought someone may have seen it before |
| 10:23.10 | liable | Mechdave: its unusual for pci_dev to be changed like that seeing as it would affect a lot of drivers i would think |
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| 10:23.46 | cast | steinchen: using TCP or UDP transport out of curiosity? |
| 10:23.52 | steinchen | udp |
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| 10:24.00 | Mechdave | liable, That's what I thought too, unless I am missing a lib on my machine? |
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| 10:24.59 | liable | Mechdave: nah, it would get the definition of that struct from a kernel header. you could check the pci header file and see what members it does have |
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| 10:25.50 | Mechdave | liable, I am googling it now, seems like I am not alone! |
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| 10:27.53 | steinchen | cast, UDP |
| 10:28.22 | Mechdave | liable, found the answer to it, pci_dev lost that member a while back, I might need to apply that patch for the 2.6 kernel I think! |
| 10:28.28 | xingu | steinchen: how many cpu's (and cpu cores) on the clients and server? |
| 10:28.49 | cast | steinchen: i heard... |
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| 10:29.25 | steinchen | all around 2ghz .. |
| 10:29.41 | xingu | yes, but how many of them. |
| 10:29.50 | liable | Mechdave: if thats the case, get a newer version of the source package |
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| 10:29.57 | steinchen | but thats not the point i think, because when i start 2 or 3 copy procs its raising 3x70kbs |
| 10:30.05 | steinchen | xingu, one cpu in each machine |
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| 10:30.45 | steinchen | and one core |
| 10:31.02 | xingu | ok; so first, start by benchmarking the tcp transport |
| 10:31.43 | liable | i take it you havent set any --shaper option on server? |
| 10:31.47 | xingu | with udp you're measuring whatever shite openvpn have managed to implement by way of a bandwidth loss/delay estimator which isn't a clever place to start |
| 10:32.03 | steinchen | liable, no i didnt |
| 10:33.38 | xingu | also, make sure your various offload options (ethtool -k, ethtool -K) are on |
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| 10:36.09 | steinchen | should i try tcp aswell? |
| 10:36.17 | Mechdave | liable, later source is throwing errors too, --> http://www.pastebin.org/13326 |
| 10:36.25 | steinchen | just changed the mtu sizes .. now its on 1500 |
| 10:36.48 | Mechdave | liable, Although the code looks ok! (unless my C is rather rusty!) |
| 10:37.40 | xingu | steinchen: yes |
| 10:37.58 | xingu | steinchen: but make sure your various offload options are also enabled (ethtool -k, ethtool -K) |
| 10:38.28 | liable | Mechdave: meh, not much your having ;) |
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| 10:38.53 | Mechdave | liable, nah this always happens to me eh :) |
| 10:41.12 | elenril | grub2 doesn't use menu.lst, does it? |
| 10:41.20 | eth01 | what kernel is this? |
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| 10:43.27 | steinchen | xingu, just on the server? or on the clients aswell .... tcp bandwidth is like 22kbs now |
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| 10:45.31 | xingu | steinchen: clients also |
| 10:46.10 | Mechdave | liable, well the patch is no good... that patches the kernel and not the source! Back to manual edit of the rt2400 sources :( |
| 10:46.19 | steinchen | no offload info available - operation not supportet |
| 10:46.48 | liable | Mechdave: weird, would have thought they would have worked around it by now |
| 10:47.02 | liable | Mechdave: where are you getting the driver from? |
| 10:47.25 | Mechdave | liable, sourceforge |
| 10:47.42 | liable | hmm |
| 10:47.47 | xingu | steinchen: are the clients and server all linux-based? |
| 10:48.07 | steinchen | all 3 machines, yes |
| 10:48.07 | Mechdave | liable, the rt61 is that the same chipset do you know? |
| 10:48.11 | steinchen | debian all |
| 10:48.31 | liable | Mechdave: nope, its their newer one iirc |
| 10:48.40 | ttz | Hi there. I want to hack in a package source, but there is a huge number of build dependencies. Is there a way to automatically install them instead of doing it manually? |
| 10:48.56 | Mechdave | liable, damn that won't work then :( |
| 10:49.37 | Mechdave | liable, but the rtx00 should work (fingers crossed) |
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| 10:50.03 | xingu | steinchen: just taking a quick browse at the openvpn site; if you're getting less than full bandwidth between client and server over a tcp transport then the openvpn code is doing something pathalogically stupid - unless - either your client or server cpu is running out of steam (doubtful) |
| 10:50.57 | xingu | steinchen: I note that the author recommends udp transport for "low latency" which means they probably don't know how to cause tcp to psh - ie, "pathalogically stupid" is looking likely. |
| 10:51.59 | liable | i thought they recommended it because of the tcp over tcp thing |
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| 10:52.30 | suppaman | hello |
| 10:52.33 | steinchen | xingu, cpu usage is like 0.5% ... :-/ |
| 10:52.45 | liable | i am getting about 37kB/s over a sat link through a anal ISA proxy atm |
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| 10:52.56 | liable | via openvpn |
| 10:53.18 | suppaman | mm the anal proxy sound painful |
| 10:53.29 | suppaman | is it worth it being anally connected ? |
| 10:53.47 | suppaman | I mean having straight sex with modem can be funny too |
| 10:53.53 | xingu | steinchen: do you have "fragment" option set? |
| 10:54.02 | liable | i am punching a hole through their anal proxy ;) |
| 10:54.03 | steinchen | not with tcp ... upd i had, yes |
| 10:54.09 | steinchen | udp |
| 10:54.14 | suppaman | ok then |
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| 10:54.31 | steinchen | liable, is that the max it should be? |
| 10:54.53 | suppaman | I fiugred how to extract firmware for my broadcom card, now is there a gui wireless network scanner/manager ? |
| 10:54.54 | steinchen | now i copy 2 files -... both 25kbs - cpu on the receiving client is at 1.3% |
| 10:55.39 | xingu | steinchen: try setting a larger sndbuf on both ends |
| 10:55.47 | xingu | steinchen: also, if you're using tcp_nodelay, don't. |
| 10:56.18 | Yancho | the hp linux printing and imageing system can be removed if i have my printer via cup right ? |
| 10:56.54 | valdyn | Yancho: that is 2 different things doing different things |
| 10:57.10 | xingu | steinchen: I'd start with 256kB for sndbuf and test that |
| 10:57.16 | ericpersson | how are lpd/lpr and cups related? |
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| 10:57.55 | xingu | liable: tcp-over-tcp is less-worse than tcp-over-udp :) |
| 10:57.56 | valdyn | ericpersson: native lpd/lpr has the same purpose has cups, the lpr program from cupsys-bsd provides an lpr interface to cups |
| 10:58.19 | Yancho | valdyn so i better keep them there ey? |
| 10:58.24 | ericpersson | valdyn: aha, so i wouldnt really need the lpd and lprng daemons running? |
| 10:58.33 | valdyn | ericpersson: right |
| 10:58.44 | valdyn | ericpersson: you just only want the cupsys-bsd package installed |
| 10:58.47 | xingu | liable: unless you do a good job of reimplementing tcp in your application code, that is. |
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| 10:59.25 | xingu | liable: nb, most people get at least part of the wheel reinvention wrong; and, you lose all the segmentation/reassembly hw offload in the process |
| 10:59.40 | liable | xingu i didnt read the details of why as i didnt have a choice of using udp, I just saw it mentioned somewhere |
| 10:59.51 | liable | http://sites.inka.de/~W1011/devel/tcp-tcp.html |
| 10:59.54 | tuntun | Hi. How can I get icon spacing on the desktop so they don't overlap, like windows? |
| 11:00.24 | xingu | liable: the problem is that tcp over tcp will run a bandwidth estimator over a bandwidth estimator and in some circumstances the two will beat against each other |
| 11:00.36 | ericpersson | valdyn: sounds like it makes sense, when i try to remove the lprng package, it says i need lpr and cupsys-client, but it seems right to me.. |
| 11:01.11 | xingu | liable: but there's nothing that _prevents_ that happening with tcp-over-udp either, which is why transport layer tunnelling is just broken |
| 11:01.24 | steinchen | xingu, got 30kbs now |
| 11:01.46 | xingu | steinchen: moving in the right direction; have you disabled nodelay if it was enabled, too? |
| 11:02.01 | steinchen | wasnt enabled |
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| 11:02.58 | xingu | steinchen: ok lets get ambitious; try for a 1MB sndbuf |
| 11:03.02 | HNT | Hello everbody, I'm using etch (r2) and so, I upgraded my flash (non-free, snif) plugin, but it doesn't work with Konqueror (nsplugin crash) any idea ? |
| 11:03.43 | liable | xingu: well, i like it, other wise i couldnt ssh, irc or get my mails or do anything other than surf they web through works stupid fucking proxy :) |
| 11:04.47 | xingu | liable: modern tcp has fast recovery which kind of puts an axe through that whole screed. |
| 11:05.08 | AciD | is there any good (up-to-date) howto on the way to convert an old debian to form fr_FR@euro to utf-8 ? |
| 11:05.28 | xingu | liable: in fact that page looks to be written by someone who's never actually had to sit down and get to root cause of _why_ tcp is behaving the way it does when impaired. |
| 11:06.20 | steinchen | xingu, 25kbs .. this cant be |
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| 11:06.27 | xingu | liable: the one thing they've tangentially hilighted that's actually worth mentioning is that tunnelling in general defeats the transport layer's ability to measure edge to edge loss/delay on a per-connection basis |
| 11:07.14 | xingu | steinchen: ok, so at a guess something's defeating tcp's ability to use a 1MB sndbuf; tcpdump the flow and look and see what the window size is |
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| 11:07.21 | tuntun | Hi. How can I get icon spacing on the desktop so they can't overlap, like windows?How can I get icon spacing on the desktop so they are all one size, like windows? |
| 11:07.31 | xingu | steinchen: if it's something useless like 64KB then there's _a_ problem |
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| 11:09.04 | xingu | liable: http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/html/rfc2001.html#anchor4 |
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| 11:09.16 | xingu | liable: nb, that's ancient history. |
| 11:10.04 | YouBucky | Hey Guys, anyone here using an ATI X1300 video card or knows how to install the driver with directing rendering working? |
| 11:10.16 | xingu | liable: in fact ironically the page you fished up even mentions rfc2001 |
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| 11:11.33 | YouBucky | liable: Thanks, yeah it aint being to friendly. Im not a hardware guy myself, do you know of any other decent low profile video cards? |
| 11:12.00 | steinchen | xingu, win 8011, win 22761, win 48428 ... |
| 11:12.01 | YouBucky | Seeing as I love burning money and all :) |
| 11:12.14 | xingu | liable: The lower layer TCP queues up a retransmission and increases its timeouts. Since the connection is blocked for this amount of time, the upper layer (i.e. payload) TCP won't get a timely ACK, and will also queue a retransmission. Because the timeout is still less than the lower layer timeout, the upper layer will queue up more retransmissions faster than the lower layer can process them. This makes the upper layer connection stall very quickly and ever |
| 11:12.14 | xingu | y retransmission just adds to the problem <-- that bit is relevant; but because the tunnelling protocol's crypto engine will have its _own_ state machine, the _exact same class of problems_ will be reimplemented. |
| 11:12.27 | liable | YouBucky: nope, sorry, I am not a real video card kinda guy |
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| 11:12.55 | fabin | YouBucky, which distro are you using? |
| 11:12.55 | xingu | steinchen: in that case there's something crimping the application's ability to raise its window; lets see what google can turn up... |
| 11:13.06 | YouBucky | liable: Cheers, mate. Looks like Google will be my friend once again |
| 11:13.11 | liable | xingu: and thats why i thought they suggest udp? |
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| 11:13.42 | YouBucky | fabin: I'm actually using Ubuntu but I'm usually a straight Debian kinda guy |
| 11:14.05 | xingu | steinchen: what's /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_max set to? |
| 11:14.34 | fabin | YouBucky, did you check this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide |
| 11:15.01 | YouBucky | fabin: My cards installed and working but when running compiz fusion some features result in lag time. I checked it direct rendering was working and I was returned with a big no |
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| 11:15.29 | fabin | YouBucky, glxinfo | grep -i direct |
| 11:15.31 | liable | YouBucky: check the phoronix forums for tips |
| 11:15.38 | q_ | bana yardım edebilecek biri varmı? |
| 11:15.55 | steinchen | xingu, server: 131071, client 1: 109568, client 2: 109568 |
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| 11:16.36 | q_ | peki türklerin olduğu bi kanal varmı? |
| 11:16.43 | xingu | steinchen: and /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_wmem ? |
| 11:16.44 | YouBucky | fabin: Thanks, glxinfo advises direct rendering is diabled, any further info I can get you? |
| 11:16.57 | YouBucky | Well is be specific it returns "no" |
| 11:17.04 | liable | q_: english |
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| 11:17.48 | steinchen | xingu, server: 4096 16384 131072, client 1: 4096 16384 262144, client 2: 4096 16384 524288 |
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| 11:18.28 | YouBucky | (22:16:44) YouBucky: fabin: Thanks, glxinfo advises direct rendering is diabled, any further info I can get you? |
| 11:18.28 | YouBucky | (22:16:57) YouBucky: Well is be specific it returns "no" |
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| 11:18.58 | xingu | steinchen: ok raise tcp_wmem and tcp_rmem on all three via echo "4096 16384 4194304" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_wmem |
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| 11:19.06 | xingu | steinchen: and same for >...tcp_rmem |
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| 11:19.47 | xingu | steinchen: nb I bet client3 has more physical dram than client2, which has more again than the server :) |
| 11:19.50 | fabin | YouBucky, try to enable it...without compiz wont work |
| 11:20.00 | xingu | steinchen: the defaults are scaled per physical mem at boot time |
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| 11:20.23 | steinchen | xingu, 25kbs |
| 11:20.48 | steinchen | xingu, thanks didnt know that |
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| 11:21.27 | YouBucky | fabin: Thanks, yeah some features result in an unusual desktop due to lag time. Do you happen to have any pointers on how to go about enabling direct rendering? |
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| 11:22.51 | fabin | YouBucky, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide |
| 11:23.04 | fabin | YouBucky, may be that helps |
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| 11:23.34 | YouBucky | fabin: Hmmm I tried that one, seemed to have issues with Gutsy the latest release |
| 11:23.46 | YouBucky | fabin: Appreciate the effort |
| 11:24.27 | fabin | YouBucky, exactly whats happening during the configuration? |
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| 11:26.09 | YouBucky | fabin: Hmmm I'll have to run through it again. I tried a few days back and dont remember the exact results. I have a feeling I had some issue when compiling the deb packages |
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| 11:27.38 | YouBucky | fabin: I have a PCI version of the X1300 shipped from Dell and I also have a PCI ATI X1300..... think its worth trying that card? |
| 11:28.33 | YouBucky | fabin: unfortunately I also left it at someone else's house this evening after months of it sitting on my desk. Doh! |
| 11:29.21 | Zharf | what's a nice app to show battery status? |
| 11:29.36 | azeem | Zharf: gnome-power-manager if you run gnome |
| 11:29.43 | Zharf | I don't |
| 11:30.00 | cahoot | you use .. ? |
| 11:30.15 | Zharf | I run wmii with "trayer" (to be able to see my network-damager applet) |
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| 11:30.39 | YouBucky | fabin: *PCIE shipped from Dell |
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| 11:31.51 | azeem | Zharf: then maybe you can use trayer to display the gnome-power-manager applet as well |
| 11:32.16 | Zharf | azeem, maybe... assuming I don't get too many dependency packages to install from it, I'll check it out |
| 11:32.25 | pengwyn | anyone willing to do some reciprocal pen tests. not to in depth? |
| 11:32.38 | pengwyn | to ==too |
| 11:32.49 | azeem | pengwyn: what does that have to do with Debian? |
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| 11:32.59 | pengwyn | on a debian box |
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| 11:33.24 | pengwyn | nevermind |
| 11:33.34 | pengwyn | looking for a friend |
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| 11:33.45 | suppaman | what's a pen test ? |
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| 11:33.54 | Zharf | azeem, why would it depend on gstreamer? does it have sounds or somehting? |
| 11:34.02 | azeem | on idea |
| 11:34.03 | pengwyn | penetration test, and it don't belong on this channel |
| 11:34.08 | suppaman | pengwyn: tried adultfinder ? |
| 11:34.17 | pengwyn | yeah |
| 11:34.20 | suppaman | :-) |
| 11:34.20 | Zharf | hahah |
| 11:34.22 | steinchen | but still slooooow |
| 11:34.25 | pengwyn | I am imune to that |
| 11:35.09 | suppaman | is there a way to have horizontal scrolling with a 3 buttons+wheel mouse ? |
| 11:35.10 | pengwyn | adultfinder is blocked by /16 |
| 11:35.19 | suppaman | I'm used to OS X shift-wheel to make horz scrolling |
| 11:35.27 | suppaman | pengwyn: netmask ? |
| 11:35.31 | pengwyn | cidr |
| 11:35.45 | suppaman | pengwyn: I'm pretty lost |
| 11:35.55 | pengwyn | yeah cidr netmask |
| 11:36.03 | suppaman | I don't know what cidr is |
| 11:36.05 | suppaman | !cidr |
| 11:36.05 | dpkg | [cidr] Classless Inter-Domain Routing, see RFC1517/1518/1519/1520. |
| 11:36.25 | suppaman | why /16 ? |
| 11:36.39 | suppaman | isn't that too big? |
| 11:36.44 | pengwyn | depends on the cidr -a reverse |
| 11:36.51 | pengwyn | -imo |
| 11:37.11 | pengwyn | and I don't remember if it is /16 might be /8 or /24 |
| 11:37.20 | Zharf | azeem, thanks, that app seems fine |
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| 11:37.39 | pengwyn | in fact i probably lost it in my banlist |
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| 11:37.49 | suppaman | mm gnome NetworkManager isn't showing my wifi card |
| 11:38.00 | suppaman | maybe I should restart it |
| 11:38.03 | pengwyn | since there's no "remarks" in that list. |
| 11:38.24 | rhs | hi, i want my etch laptop to act only as an openoffice impress displayer |
| 11:38.33 | rhs | with no login / pass |
| 11:39.09 | cahoot | rhs: gnome? |
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| 11:39.13 | pengwyn | but like azeem said it's not apropriate for #debian (my bad, I will now shut up for some good amount of minutes) |
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| 11:39.33 | xingu | steinchen: sorry, distracted, will be back soon |
| 11:39.33 | rhs | cahoot: gnome is too heavy for this computer |
| 11:39.58 | cahoot | rhs: just wondered sinc it offers that option |
| 11:40.15 | rhs | cahoot: thanks anyway |
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| 11:42.06 | steinchen | xingu, k thanks |
| 11:42.27 | ericpersson | have anyone tried the new amazone db service? |
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| 11:48.15 | Internat | anyone recommend any tcp sniffing stuff like wireshark? it keeps crashing on my computer |
| 11:48.53 | liable | tcpdump |
| 11:49.04 | ignotus | hi, I use ntpdate once a day and it adjust my system clock about 7 seconds. When this happens, some daemons kill themselves on purpose when they see that the clock is gone back in time. How should I avoid this? |
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| 11:49.06 | Internat | something more with a gui that allows filtering of the traffic |
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| 11:50.22 | cahoot | ignotus: use ntp for continuous timekeeping? |
| 11:52.50 | xingu | steinchen: what's the window size now from tcpdump? |
| 11:53.02 | xingu | !ntpdate |
| 11:53.02 | dpkg | it has been said that ntpdate is a program that sets a system's clock using one of more NTP-servers. It's useful for setting the time occasionally (like on boot or connecting to internet). ask me about ntp. Instead of using this obsolete and unmaintained program, just run ntp-server, add the 'iburst' option to the 'server' lines in ntp.conf, and make sure -g is among the NTPD_OPTS in /etc/defaults/ntp. |
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| 11:54.05 | logd | hi if iwconfig ath0 mode ad-hoc fails wheter "managed" works it means the card doesn't support a-hoc mode ? |
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| 11:54.57 | steinchen | xingu, between 8001 and 48428 |
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| 11:56.00 | xingu | steinchen: hmm; restart one client and the server openvpn daemon? failing that just revert to 256KB sndbuf |
| 11:56.16 | xingu | steinchen: oh, maybe window scaling isn't set for you, 2s. |
| 11:56.39 | reZo | hi, i've got an error with mplayer when playing avi files, http://pastebin.ca/837181. I have installed w32codecs as well, that didn't do anything. |
| 11:56.45 | reZo | How can i resolve this issue? |
| 11:57.13 | xingu | steinchen: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling (should be 1) |
| 11:57.27 | tsv | hey, just wondered what way people would recommend keeping track of things compiled from source, so they're easily uninstallable at a later date? I've used paco before, what are the other options? |
| 11:57.47 | xingu | steinchen: try increasing tcp-queue-limit to say 256 on client and server, too. |
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| 11:59.15 | steinchen | xingu, window scaling is "1" on each side |
| 11:59.43 | xingu | hmm, I'd love to see a tcpdump capture of the initial tunnel setup between a client and a server then |
| 12:00.10 | steinchen | pm? |
| 12:00.24 | xingu | actual capture |
| 12:02.01 | steinchen | doenst work, when i fire tcpdump and restart the server, tcpdump gets "network unavailable" |
| 12:02.53 | logd | hi if iwconfig ath0 mode ad-hoc fails wheter "managed" works it means the card doesn't support a-hoc mode ? |
| 12:03.13 | xingu | steinchen: on the server - disconnect a victim client; tcpdump -i ethX -w output.pcap host vi.ct.im.ad |
| 12:03.19 | xingu | steinchen: then fire up the client |
| 12:03.19 | simonrvn | tsv: {x}stow (there's 2 things there) |
| 12:03.26 | simonrvn | checkinstall too |
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| 12:04.06 | xingu | steinchen: obviously the ip address is the client's visible ip address; I'm after the outside (post-openvpn) client-server traffic so I can see what socket options are negotiated |
| 12:04.39 | ericpersson | I'm trying to replace a qmail deb package with a fake mta-local, but I get strange errors when trying to remvoe the qmail package: Can't locate DebianNet.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /var/lib/dpkg/info/qmail.prerm line 3. |
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| 12:05.36 | Gigantic | :o |
| 12:05.44 | Mechdave | liable, Igot it going!! Ifound the rt2400-source package and compiled it with m-a and then installed the .deb and it works :) |
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| 12:08.54 | Optyk | Hello there. |
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| 12:10.26 | Optyk | I have users in chroot jail and I want to enable him changing password. Anyone can help me? |
| 12:10.29 | tsv | simonrvn; cheers |
| 12:10.59 | steinchen | ftp liegt bei 350kbs |
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| 12:11.16 | steinchen | xingu, with ftp im getting 350kbs |
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| 12:11.39 | xingu | steinchen: *nod* that sounds hdd limited. |
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| 12:12.15 | xingu | steinchen: can i get my paws on a tcpdump? it'd be good to include the first few seconds of a file transfer in it too. |
| 12:12.58 | FunctorSalad | hi... why do I get "Unable to find a source package for iceweasel" even though I have deb-src ... in my sources.list? |
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| 12:14.03 | steinchen | xingu, udp ftp 800 kbs |
| 12:14.05 | Gigantic | So... I'ma geek... |
| 12:14.16 | steinchen | sec |
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| 12:14.33 | ericpersson | I have two machines, both /etc/debian_version=lenny/sid, with the package netbase 4.3, but if I run dpkg -L netbase on both machines, I get different results.. How could this be? |
| 12:14.55 | Maulkin | One isn't updated? |
| 12:14.59 | FunctorSalad | (is there some basic thing I'm missing to be able to apt-get build-dep?) |
| 12:15.13 | ericpersson | Maulkin: but its the same netbase version? |
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| 12:15.52 | Maulkin | FunctorSalad: pastebin your sources.list please |
| 12:16.05 | Maulkin | ericpersson: what do you mean by different results? |
| 12:16.16 | Maulkin | is dpkg -l different? |
| 12:17.19 | ericpersson | Maulkin: ahh.. i see a diffrence on there, it says 4.25 on one on -l but 4.3 on -L on both.. strange.. |
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| 12:17.48 | fundesktop | does anyone use a rt2x00 driver on debian testing/unstable and had problems getting it to work correctly recently? I use rt73usb from rt2x00, and it doesn't work anymore: now I must use ndiswrapper to connect to my wlan; with rt73usb, it sends DHCP requests but never gets a reply |
| 12:17.55 | ericpersson | Maulkin: or really, aptitude show gave med 4.3 on both. |
| 12:20.19 | FunctorSalad | Maulkin: http://paste.debian.net/45760 |
| 12:21.03 | FunctorSalad | I think the iceweasel source is only in unstable, but I do have deb-src for unstable |
| 12:21.27 | ericpersson | Maulkin: got around the differences, thanks for your help.. |
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| 12:23.09 | tsv | stow |
| 12:23.23 | Maulkin | FunctorSalad: http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing is old by the way |
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| 12:23.45 | FunctorSalad | Maulkin: do you mean it has been included into the main repositories? |
| 12:23.47 | Maulkin | FunctorSalad: http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates is the new one |
| 12:23.55 | FunctorSalad | ah, ok |
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| 12:24.10 | FunctorSalad | I have that one already I think |
| 12:24.21 | Maulkin | FunctorSalad: if you've got multiple sources from different suites, you're going to get oddness |
| 12:24.53 | FunctorSalad | ok, will remove it then, thanks |
| 12:26.45 | FunctorSalad | is the redundancy from things like the amarok and wine repositories a problem too? |
| 12:28.55 | steinchen | driving me nuts |
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| 12:31.18 | logd | hi if iwconfig ath0 mode ad-hoc fails wheter "managed" works it means the card doesn't support a-hoc mode ? |
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| 12:32.35 | pengwyn | ifconfig? |
| 12:32.51 | pengwyn | nm my cat is jumping in my face |
| 12:35.13 | FunctorSalad | catconfig --umount face |
| 12:35.47 | FunctorSalad | anyway, is it even a sound idea to compile iceweasel for my CPU in order to get a performance increase? |
| 12:36.30 | pengwyn | iceweasle is that part of gnome? |
| 12:36.41 | pengwyn | probably not |
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| 12:36.58 | FunctorSalad | pengwyn: no, it's debians firefox version |
| 12:37.06 | pengwyn | Oh that's right |
| 12:37.09 | pengwyn | nm |
| 12:37.12 | FunctorSalad | it could use any slight increase it can get ;) |
| 12:37.28 | pengwyn | who knows unless you compare |
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| 12:38.23 | FunctorSalad | hmm I wouldn't know how to compare systematically |
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| 12:39.35 | pengwyn | how about just compare? |
| 12:39.47 | pengwyn | e.g. human interface |
| 12:40.13 | LoneTech | FunctorSalad: it's unlikely cpu optimizations could help noticeably with that |
| 12:40.40 | FunctorSalad | hmm ok |
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| 12:45.24 | FunctorSalad | LoneTech: though I'm pretty sure it *is* a cpu thing with all these extensions and tabs I have, if you were thinking that |
| 12:46.00 | pengwyn | damn it's bad. I see that now |
| 12:46.21 | pengwyn | ~poof~ |
| 12:46.34 | LoneTech | cpu optimizations have a minor effect on code efficiency. how much time does it spend shuffling and rehashing data? |
| 12:46.37 | pengwyn | (cough) |
| 12:46.49 | LoneTech | in any case, feel free to try |
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| 12:47.14 | LoneTech | I wouldn't mind being proven wrong in this case, as it'd mean a potential way to improve performance |
| 12:47.29 | FunctorSalad | LoneTech: no idea to be honest :) but I was under the impression that the extensions run in javaScript |
| 12:47.45 | FunctorSalad | which could cause enough overhead to make optimizations useful |
| 12:47.46 | LoneTech | yeah, and the cpu optimizations can't do a thing for your interpreter. |
| 12:48.13 | ericpersson | pengwyn: have you tried swiftfox? |
| 12:48.15 | FunctorSalad | won't they improve the interpreter itself? |
| 12:48.35 | pengwyn | heh heh heh no |
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| 12:48.59 | LoneTech | the nature of the interpreter is such that it makes thousands of fairly small calculated function calls, not exactly the sort of thing to be tunable |
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| 12:49.39 | pengwyn | getswiftfox.com i see it |
| 12:49.43 | ericpersson | i tried using swiftfox(http://getswiftfox.com/) which is mostly a cpu tuned firefox, and it gives better results imho.. |
| 12:49.54 | pengwyn | I bet |
| 12:50.03 | pengwyn | (cough) but I digress |
| 12:50.07 | LoneTech | to improve that much would require something fancy like python psyco. |
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| 12:50.17 | ericpersson | they have some tests there as well, ymmv.. |
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| 12:50.20 | oz0n | how can i mount usb stick on debian ? |
| 12:50.28 | FunctorSalad | "<pengwyn> damn it's bad. I see that now <pengwyn> ~poof~" <- I don't get it :) |
| 12:50.40 | oz0n | when i insert something in usb does not work |
| 12:50.59 | ericpersson | ozon: see if its detected with dmesg |
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| 12:51.27 | pengwyn | ssjh |
| 12:51.32 | oz0n | ericpersson how ? |
| 12:51.37 | enouf | you want fast? use links2 ;-) |
| 12:51.41 | oz0n | in console to type dmesg ? |
| 12:52.25 | ericpersson | oz0n: type dmesg in the console, and you should have some usb mumbojumbo at the end probably.. |
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| 12:52.43 | enouf | modprobe usb-storage? |
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| 12:53.05 | enouf | !usb-storage |
| 12:53.05 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. ask me about <automount> |
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| 12:53.39 | enouf | or, you might have a samsung mp3? (proprietary crap needed, or not available) |
| 12:54.08 | enouf | !samsung yp-u3 |
| 12:54.08 | dpkg | http://www.google.com/linux?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=Samsung+YP-U3&btnG=Search |
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| 12:57.45 | fundesktop | I'm trying desperately to get my wlan-stick to work again with the rt2x00 driver... all I get is this: http://rafb.net/p/ByGbf862.html |
| 12:57.55 | fundesktop | what's going wrong? it works with ndiswrapper |
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| 12:58.23 | pengwyn | crash |
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| 12:59.40 | fundesktop | I need more ways to debug it! |
| 13:00.54 | Penix | shenmue on the brain....sleep.. |
| 13:02.04 | fundesktop | what could I try? |
| 13:02.16 | bolt | gah. for once i get a spam mail with something i'm actually interested in, and the link doesn't work |
| 13:02.22 | bolt | i hate spam |
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| 13:03.36 | ericpersson | where does the "untrusted packages-warning" come from when doing aptitude install on stuff? I only official debian sources in the sources.list file.. |
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| 13:06.40 | FunctorSalad | just got that warning for swiftfox. is it trustable? |
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| 13:06.49 | FunctorSalad | (I hit ok already anyway, just curious ;)) |
| 13:06.52 | ericpersson | FunctorSalad: has been so far for me.. :) |
| 13:07.33 | FunctorSalad | hmm swiftfox is 3.0 so I won't be able to compare directly to my weasel 2.011 |
| 13:07.48 | ericpersson | FunctorSalad: i think the 2.x is available as well.. |
| 13:08.03 | FunctorSalad | not in the repository :( |
| 13:08.10 | ericpersson | thats strupid.. |
| 13:08.19 | ericpersson | is 3.0 stable? |
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| 13:09.42 | FunctorSalad | don't know. ah, here is the 2.0 http://getswiftfox.com/br18.htm |
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| 13:10.33 | fundesktop | ok again: |
| 13:10.37 | fundesktop | what can I do to debug wlan? |
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| 13:11.23 | ericpersson | FunctorSalad: tried stumble upon? |
| 13:11.37 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 13:11.50 | FunctorSalad | ericpersson: in general? yes, but didn't catch on with me |
| 13:12.01 | FunctorSalad | I have too many tabs open in the first place |
| 13:12.09 | ericpersson | FunctorSalad: really? i love it.. |
| 13:12.25 | ericpersson | regulary find stuff i might have never found or thought of otherwise.. |
| 13:13.05 | FunctorSalad | yeah maybe I should do that instead of F5-ing the usual stuff ;) |
| 13:13.19 | ericpersson | hehe |
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| 13:13.36 | ericpersson | this weeks best one was installing synergy.. |
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| 13:15.02 | FunctorSalad | what's that? |
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| 13:15.18 | chris|abyi | sorry, disconnected |
| 13:15.28 | abrotman | !info synergy |
| 13:16.02 | dpkg | synergy: (Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network), section x11, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 610 kB, Installed size: 1492 kB |
| 13:16.05 | ericpersson | synergy is kind of a software kvm switch, without the w.. |
| 13:16.23 | ericpersson | i can use two computers with the same keyboard/mouse... |
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| 13:16.37 | FunctorSalad | heh |
| 13:16.51 | bolt | synergy owns |
| 13:16.53 | FunctorSalad | why would you want to do that though? |
| 13:16.54 | abrotman | and it's multiplatform .. linux/win32/osx |
| 13:16.54 | ericpersson | sounds stupid perhaps, but really good since i have a windowsmachine testing some things on.. really handy, can just use the same mouse pointer for both... |
| 13:17.07 | FunctorSalad | ah |
| 13:17.25 | ericpersson | i would love to be able to move windows in between them as well, but its not possible.. |
| 13:17.38 | bolt | FunctorSalad: I have four computers on my desktop. Four keyboards/mice wouldn't make room for anything else. Synergy solves this very nicely. |
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| 13:17.59 | FunctorSalad | hmm FWIW the old and the new swiftfox repository seem to conflict with each other |
| 13:18.56 | enouf | TrueDD: hey |
| 13:18.59 | ericpersson | yeah, think it does.. |
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| 13:19.04 | Nazcafan | hello |
| 13:19.20 | FunctorSalad | bolt: yeah but I thought one would only do the desktop on one computer and use the others only for calculations, which can be done over ssh |
| 13:19.25 | Nazcafan | Does anyone uses an SD card reader with gnome ? |
| 13:19.28 | FunctorSalad | *use the desktop |
| 13:19.57 | chris|abyi | hm, I don't know if anybody saw my posting above because I had been disconnected. Could someone probably take a look on this: http://pastebin.org/13341 ? my system is totally crashed,although it still went fine yesterday |
| 13:20.19 | TrueDD | hey enouf :) |
| 13:20.26 | enouf | ;-) |
| 13:20.29 | FunctorSalad | I think you can connect multiple monitors to one desktop if that's the issue |
| 13:20.30 | Nazcafan | If I eject the SD card and replug it after a while, it does not get automounted nore is it displayed on the "Workstation" folder |
| 13:20.35 | enouf | chris|abyi: not doing so hot eh? |
| 13:20.46 | chris|abyi | enouf: sorry? |
| 13:21.03 | xHemi | is there a good reason for gnustep to pull in tetex if you have texlive installed? |
| 13:21.05 | ericpersson | chris|abyi: tried running autoclean first |
| 13:21.09 | eth01 | who runs debian on a amd64 here btw? |
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| 13:21.41 | chris|abyi | eth01: me =P |
| 13:21.48 | Airbottle | i run the k7 kernel on amd 3.8 x2 |
| 13:21.51 | Airbottle | no probs |
| 13:21.51 | chris|abyi | ericpersson: tell me how, please |
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| 13:22.19 | abrotman | xHemi: is it a transitional package? |
| 13:22.22 | enouf | chris|abyi: er, weren;t you building an i386 kernel yesterday? |
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| 13:22.24 | ericpersson | chris|abyi: aptitude autoclean |
| 13:22.32 | FunctorSalad | hmm swiftfox complains about "Illegal instruction" :( |
| 13:22.42 | bolt | FunctorSalad: neh. one for coding, one for communication, one for movies, and a laptop to take with you :) |
| 13:22.44 | ericpersson | FunctorSalad: oh... did you pick the wrong cpu? |
| 13:22.51 | abrotman | chris|abyi: paste your sources.list somewhere |
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| 13:23.17 | chris|abyi | enouf: I tried to but it didn't work, so I switched back (in grub) to the former one. Yesterday evening, gnome update showed up with a new kernel image and I installed it as a normal update. Since this time, I got these libc6 problems. |
| 13:23.21 | FunctorSalad | ericpersson: it only has "amd" and "intel" for the old branch. maybe that "amd" is amd64 |
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| 13:23.47 | enouf | chris|abyi: former what? that has no bearing on your OS userland Arch |
| 13:23.58 | FunctorSalad | should prolly try the 3.0 then, which does discriminate the different amd cpus |
| 13:24.03 | ericpersson | FunctorSalad: dont know.. |
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| 13:24.26 | enouf | chris|abyi: what's file /bin/ls say? |
| 13:24.28 | chris|abyi | enouf: BUT! sorry, I had been confused myself.. the whole kernel action had been on my notebook, the libc6 thing is on my pc, although it runned fine for almost a year now |
| 13:24.38 | xHemi | abrotman: no, dont think so. just gnustep with texlive installed, running on etch |
| 13:24.38 | stew | chris|abyi: remove nspluginwrapper |
| 13:24.55 | abrotman | i didn't think texlive was in etch .. ? |
| 13:25.17 | chris|abyi | enouf: what should it say? there are all binarys as normal? |
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| 13:25.20 | pumpkin0 | simple one: netiso-install => system with SMP Kernel ? |
| 13:25.22 | enouf | chris|abyi: ok, so yesterdays' issues were concerning your notebook? (mac80211 patch + i386 kernel building?) |
| 13:25.28 | xHemi | ok, you are probably right, then that would be the anwser.. |
| 13:25.43 | enouf | chris|abyi: tell me what it says |
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| 13:25.46 | abrotman | xHemi: though .. it's a dependency .. not much you can do about it |
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| 13:26.09 | abrotman | xHemi: if you think texlive should work as weel as tetex .. you'd have to file a wishlist bug |
| 13:26.11 | chris|abyi | stew: I tried to remove nspluginwrapper (apt-get remove nspluginwrapper), but then I again get the same errors with libc6 and it is not being removed |
| 13:26.57 | chris|abyi | enouf: yes, although the mac80211 thing still doesnt seem to work at all, but this has lower priority now.. |
| 13:27.07 | stew | chris|abyi: so when you try to remove nspluginwrapper it complains that nspluginwrapper has a file conflicting with libc6? that doesn't make sense, it shouldn't care if there is a conflicting file in a package that is being removed |
| 13:27.13 | xHemi | abrotman: where do you write one of those? |
| 13:27.21 | abrotman | !reportbug |
| 13:27.21 | dpkg | i heard reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 13:27.26 | enouf | chris|abyi: ansewer my 1st question please - then also tell us what cat /proc/version says |
| 13:27.45 | xHemi | abrotman: thnx |
| 13:28.06 | stew | chris|abyi: can you show me the output of "apt-get remove nspluginwrapper"? |
| 13:28.12 | abrotman | i'd just yell at tarrybone a bunch |
| 13:28.29 | abrotman | erm .. tarzeau |
| 13:28.39 | chris|abyi | enouf: ok. I've got to type everything manually in pastebin |
| 13:28.47 | stew | enouf: you think that his problem with nspluginwrapper is somehow related to /bin/ls or his kernel version? |
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| 13:29.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: ? |
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| 13:29.30 | enouf | stew: not sure yet, but yesterday it was all about i386 kernel building (but finally we got that straight), notice though amd64 --> dpkg: error while processing of /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.36.ds1-13etch4.amd64.deb |
| 13:29.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: oh .y ou know |
| 13:29.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: no, what is it? |
| 13:29.56 | stew | enouf: ok? and what does /bin/ls or his kernel vesion have to do with his problem? |
| 13:30.05 | abrotman | tarzeau: someone wasd asking about gnustep |
| 13:30.06 | enouf | i want to see his arch |
| 13:30.09 | enouf | stew: ^^ |
| 13:30.11 | xHemi | tarzeau: could you pretty please with sugar on top look into texlive as a dependency for gnustep |
| 13:30.16 | stew | enouf: its amd64 |
| 13:30.20 | enouf | his userland specifically |
| 13:30.24 | stew | enouf: amd64 |
| 13:30.33 | tarzeau | xHemi: which package exactly? |
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| 13:30.37 | enouf | stew: how can you tell? |
| 13:30.42 | abrotman | enouf: his paste tells you |
| 13:30.54 | abrotman | libc6_2.36.ds1-13etch4.amd64.deb |
| 13:30.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: and how does it have anything to do with me? |
| 13:30.58 | MrDigimon | hi ppl |
| 13:31.00 | enouf | libc6-i386: depends on: libc6 <-- looks like 386 to me |
| 13:31.05 | abrotman | tarzeau: fine .. be that way! |
| 13:31.14 | rdorsch | How can I find out the uuid of my swap partition for inclusion in /etc/fstab? |
| 13:31.17 | stew | enouf: because he has nspluginwrapper installed, and his libc6 contains /usr/lib64 |
| 13:31.21 | chris|abyi | enouf: keep in mind that the kernel thing was on another computer yesterday. Here's the first thing you asked me, down.:http://pastebin.org/13342 |
| 13:31.22 | rdorsch | blkid found all the other uuids |
| 13:31.28 | xHemi | tarzeau: synaptic install gnustep, wants to pull in tetex, just wondered if it wouldn't be better with texlive since tetex isn't moving anywhere |
| 13:31.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: debian has packages, people are responsible for packages. if he really means the gnustep meta package built of meta-gnustep |
| 13:31.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: that's not me |
| 13:31.44 | enouf | stew: ok, i know nothing about nsplugin<whatever> - just trying to confirm arch installed |
| 13:31.47 | tarzeau | xHemi: you're right, but please do this via bugs.debian.org/meta-gnustep |
| 13:32.00 | stew | enouf: http://packages.debian.org/libc6-i386 libc6-i386 isn't available on i386 |
| 13:32.02 | enouf | chris|abyi: i understand and let everyone know that |
| 13:32.10 | xHemi | tarzeau: sure |
| 13:32.13 | enouf | stew: ok, thanks, didn't know that |
| 13:32.22 | chris|abyi | enouf: I just used this nsplugwrapper thing to get flash running for amd64, but this also worked for weeks now. |
| 13:32.28 | tarzeau | xHemi: how are you use gnustep does work with texlive, did you check? |
| 13:32.47 | MrDigimon | where can i get these packs? libcomerr2 (= 1.40.2-1+lenny1) libcupsys2 (= 1.3.2-1+lenny1) libpcre3 (= 6.7+7.4-2+lenny1) libpcrecpp0 (= 6.7+7.4-2+lenny1) |
| 13:32.54 | tarzeau | xHemi: they've got some sophisticated tex documentation generation, i didn't test it with texlive ever (neither did i need any of such docs) |
| 13:33.00 | azeem | tarzeau: if it doesn't work, it needs to get fixed by the gnustep guys I guess |
| 13:33.04 | tarzeau | xHemi: the OPENSTEP docs are much better imho |
| 13:33.05 | stew | MrDigimon: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 13:33.10 | tarzeau | azeem: ack |
| 13:33.11 | MrDigimon | etch |
| 13:33.36 | stew | MrDigimon: then you don't want those packages, they are for lenny, not etch. what made you think that you want to have those installed? |
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| 13:34.00 | MrDigimon | if i dont get them it deletes libc6 and everything with it |
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| 13:34.10 | MrDigimon | half the system |
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| 13:34.46 | stew | MrDigimon: so you must have upgraded to lenny aka testing at some point. can you show us the output of "apt-cache policy libc6" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 13:35.22 | enouf | abrotman: it would help next time if you don't cut a part of an error message to show only a pkgname, and explain how it relates to the situation - to me, he could have as easily d/led that pkg manually - not to mention there could have been some chroot building going on. Yet stew pointed out to me how he was sure about the arch (which i previously wasn't aware of) |
| 13:35.45 | abrotman | enouf: it was pretty obvious considering the context |
| 13:36.03 | MrDigimon | /msg dpkg pastebin libc6: |
| 13:36.04 | MrDigimon | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.04 | MrDigimon | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.04 | MrDigimon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:36.11 | enouf | abrotman: an eassy output of file /bin/ls should never be a big deal |
| 13:36.29 | abrotman | enouf: you asked for it .. not me .. i didn't comment on your request |
| 13:36.39 | chris|abyi | ahm..pardon ? |
| 13:36.51 | chris|abyi | any clue probably? |
| 13:37.05 | abrotman | !overwrite |
| 13:37.05 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-overwrite is because the package you are trying to install has files which exist in another package and does not conflict with the other package. This is *ALWAYS* a bug. Make sure a bug is filed (ask me about <bts>). If there isn't one, use reportbug to report it. Then install using the following: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <packagename> |
| 13:37.22 | stew | chris|abyi: please show us what happens when you run "apt-get remove nspluginwrapper" |
| 13:38.00 | abrotman | how did he install nspluginwrapper on etch ? |
| 13:38.01 | stew | its not always a bug. for instance, here, when someone is mixing packages from stable and testing, it isn't necessarily a bug when they conflict |
| 13:39.00 | stew | dpkg: tell MrDigimon about paste |
| 13:39.13 | enouf | chris|abyi: i know my stuff, but the others (some) chiming in are debian pros, you're in good hands - you'll get it resolved |
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| 13:39.20 | MrDigimon | sry about that :P |
| 13:39.39 | chris|abyi | stew: http://pastebin.org/13344, line 20-23 |
| 13:40.35 | stew | chris|abyi: so it removed nspluginwrapper successfully? what happens when you run "apt-get -f install" now? |
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| 13:40.55 | stew | chris|abyi: for these situations, its generally advisable to be using aptitude instead of apt-get as it has better dependency resolution |
| 13:41.36 | chris|abyi | stew: no, he didn't remove nspluginwrapper, he first showed up with these "dependencies", then quitted. |
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| 13:42.14 | chris|abyi | I find it interesting that int the first try to do apt-get update he says that the libc6-...-etch2 is installed, in the last one, he says that it should become installed |
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| 13:42.46 | chris|abyi | stew: I never used aptitude, dunno how-to get along with it |
| 13:42.52 | steinchen | !nfs |
| 13:42.52 | dpkg | hmm... nfs is Sun's Network Filesystem, a reasonably simple file transfer protocol that is quite hard to secure. See the NFS-HOWTO for setup, or No Files Served. Network FaILurE System. Never Fscking Stable. No Fucking Security. Nightmare File System, or ask me about <ssh tunneled nfs>. |
| 13:42.53 | stew | chris|abyi: run "apt-get install nspluginwrapper- libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i385" |
| 13:43.02 | stew | chris|abyi: note that the - after nsplugwrapper is needed |
| 13:43.12 | chris|abyi | okay, give me a second |
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| 13:43.23 | stew | chris|abyi: you can run any of the commands you are running with apt-get using aptitude just by changing apt-get to aptitude |
| 13:43.43 | N`Kr1pt | hi, I added a script to /etc/rc2.d to mount my fileserver to /mnt/fileserver, the symlink is called S99mount-fileserver, but the fileserver is not mounted |
| 13:43.55 | N`Kr1pt | the script has 755 rights like all scripts in /etc/init.d |
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| 13:44.10 | asg | night, I'm off too |
| 13:44.17 | abrotman | night? |
| 13:44.19 | chris|abyi | stew: ah, okay!?, just saw the graphical thing yet |
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| 13:44.33 | asg | abrotman: misfire from last evening :p |
| 13:44.40 | chris|abyi | stew: okay, I'll again post what apt-get says in pastebin |
| 13:44.45 | abrotman | asg: hehe |
| 13:45.49 | gosam[TOP] | I have a weird problem and can't figure it out |
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| 13:46.21 | gosam[TOP] | whenever I switch to a virtual terminal (ctrl + alt + Fn) |
| 13:46.30 | gosam[TOP] | tmy monitor goes to sleep mode |
| 13:46.40 | gosam[TOP] | I'm using debian SID |
| 13:46.43 | mbroeker | Hi: Can someone click on my homepage http://largo.homelinux.org and tell me, what he sees? |
| 13:47.06 | mbroeker | I got a new router and this router makes me sick. i wont believe it... |
| 13:47.11 | sn0 | samsung router management mbroeker SMt-G3010 |
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| 13:47.14 | gosam[TOP] | mbroeker, the routers config page |
| 13:47.32 | mbroeker | sn0, thanks. This is not good at all :) |
| 13:47.41 | chris|abyi | stew: just need some more moment to type it |
| 13:47.42 | enouf | stew: your last command to chris|abyi - the i385 is a typo? |
| 13:48.17 | abrotman | sn0: ? |
| 13:48.20 | mbroeker | gosam[TOP], thx too |
| 13:48.26 | chris|abyi | enouf: corrected it. |
| 13:48.28 | abrotman | oh |
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| 13:49.10 | sn0 | :) |
| 13:49.22 | ericpersson | this was readworthy: http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/10/02/tales-from-responsivenessland-why-linux-feels-slow-and-how-to-fix-that/ |
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| 13:51.18 | chris|abyi | stew: http://pastebin.org/13345 |
| 13:51.24 | chris|abyi | didn't work |
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| 13:55.01 | Reemo | Hi guys, just expanded my memory to 2gigs (dualchannel, DDR 400 @ 200mhz), memtest + bios recognize it, debian lenny/sid with 2.6.18 doesnt |
| 13:55.08 | HS^^ | how would you get qt4 with obdc on debian? |
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| 13:56.07 | zand | Reemo: what does debian say you have? where did you get that info? |
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| 13:56.21 | wols_ | Reemo: what kernel do you run? |
| 13:56.23 | stew | Reemo: what cpu do you have? and what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 13:56.31 | Reemo | Okay okay |
| 13:56.41 | zand | Reemo: that's quite an old kernel for testing :S |
| 13:57.04 | Reemo | Kernel: 2.6.18-4-486, AMD Athlon XP 3000+ Socket A, /proc/meminfo |
| 13:57.24 | zand | Reemo: install the latest k7 kernel |
| 13:57.27 | Reemo | zand, i usually use 2.6.23, but after transferring to another mainboard my own kernel doesnt work |
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| 13:57.33 | wols_ | Reemo: get a k7 kernel. -486 only can recognize 1GB RAM |
| 13:57.43 | stew | Reemo: aptitude install linux-2.6-k7 |
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| 13:57.53 | stew | Reemo: err, linux-image-2.6-k7 |
| 13:57.55 | Reemo | i usually brew myself |
| 13:58.07 | wols_ | Reemo: what's wrong with .23 for you? |
| 13:58.25 | Reemo | Kernel Panic because of another Mainboard |
| 13:58.35 | stew | Reemo: you can install one you compile yourself. it just needs to have the CONFIG_HIMEM4G option enabled |
| 13:58.47 | Reemo | thanks stew :) |
| 13:58.56 | stew | chris|abyi: is this machine not networked? why are you typing this stuff by hand? |
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| 13:59.19 | Reemo | btw, did anyone experienced compilation failing if building with framebuffer logo? |
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| 13:59.24 | Reemo | On 2.6.23.12 |
| 14:00.05 | Reemo | it fails on fbmem.c with some pointer errors |
| 14:00.18 | Reemo | I can paste errors later if this is an unkown issue |
| 14:00.29 | chris|abyi | stew: it is networked but I don't get even lynx installed and the xserver doesn't start as well |
| 14:00.55 | chris|abyi | problems with lynx: same as when doing apt-get remove nspluginwrapper |
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| 14:01.28 | stew | i don't understand why dpkg would care about nspluginwrapper having a conflicting file when you are trying to remove it |
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| 14:01.43 | chris|abyi | stew: I don't know why as well |
| 14:01.52 | chris|abyi | is there any chance for you probably to get a remote access ? |
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| 14:02.24 | chris|abyi | otherwise I will do a whole reinstall, probably with i386 again. amd64 is still sometimes very problematic I guess.. |
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| 14:02.50 | stew | chris|abyi: amd64 shouldn't be problematic. the problem is that you are trying to mix packages from testing and stable |
| 14:03.15 | chris|abyi | stew: I guess there are backports, yes. |
| 14:03.35 | fundesktop | does 2.6.24-rc6 work on Debian? can I build it using the debian method? |
| 14:03.53 | abrotman | fundesktop: try it .. let us know |
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| 14:04.25 | tux23 | hi @all |
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| 14:05.14 | fundesktop | requesting dpkg's kernel building infos |
| 14:05.20 | abrotman | !kp |
| 14:05.21 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra' |
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| 14:05.25 | fundesktop | thank you *g* |
| 14:05.26 | harpal | How can I know how much bytes are transfering through interface? |
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| 14:06.18 | zand | harpal: ifconfig? |
| 14:06.18 | wols_ | harpal: iftop, iptraf, etc |
| 14:07.00 | zand | from ifconfig eth0: RX bytes:23895870063 (22.2 GB) TX bytes:744328306 (709.8 MB) |
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| 14:07.27 | zand | (note that it wraps on 32-bit systems) |
| 14:07.42 | harpal | I want that to display it to console |
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| 14:08.08 | harpal | so I can redirect it to file and than process it. |
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| 14:09.44 | zand | libstatgrab6 is useful for that kinda thing |
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| 14:11.50 | orioni | hi to all. why i cant install the latest version or winrar? |
| 14:11.55 | orioni | from www.rarlab.com |
| 14:12.04 | zand | because debian isn't windows |
| 14:12.05 | orioni | it give an error for a library |
| 14:12.09 | orioni | yeah ok. |
| 14:12.12 | orioni | i know that |
| 14:12.31 | orioni | :) |
| 14:12.59 | zand | 1. that's not debian software, 2. you didn't provide any information about the problem, |
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| 14:13.52 | orioni | on rarlab.com there are linux versions |
| 14:13.58 | cahoot | <orioni> it give an error for a library - tats' why |
| 14:13.59 | orioni | src tar.gz |
| 14:14.17 | Reemo | which processor family is right/best for my AMD Athlon XP 3000+? |
| 14:14.27 | zand | Reemo: what do you mean? |
| 14:14.29 | wols_ | Reemo: k7 |
| 14:14.35 | xlotlu | something's messed up lately in sid... fonts are way too small every other reboot |
| 14:14.36 | wols_ | Reemo: if that doesn't exist, 686 |
| 14:14.46 | Reemo | i'm just compiling my kernel |
| 14:14.50 | Reemo | My options: |
| 14:14.54 | wols_ | then it exists |
| 14:15.05 | Reemo | 386, 486, 586/k5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX/Pentium.... |
| 14:15.12 | wols_ | I told you |
| 14:15.20 | cahoot | see the 'Help' button? |
| 14:15.28 | abrotman | button? |
| 14:15.31 | mmlj4 | there used to be a rar package, but it's evaporated |
| 14:15.39 | zand | rar is an awful format :| |
| 14:15.44 | wols_ | Reemo: people who insist on compiling their own kernels are supposed to not need to ask such trivial things Reemo |
| 14:15.48 | cahoot | presuming menuconfig |
| 14:15.57 | wols_ | mmlj4: it still exists. non-free |
| 14:16.01 | mmlj4 | ah. |
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| 14:16.19 | fundesktop | argh |
| 14:16.47 | fundesktop | ok, when I run "make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image", it asks me kernel configuration questions... how can I stop that? |
| 14:16.56 | fundesktop | I want to compile a standard debian kernel |
| 14:17.14 | fundesktop | I want the debian config defaults |
| 14:17.21 | zophy | what did the mplayer zinf |
| 14:17.55 | zophy | what did the music player "zinf" change it's name to ? |
| 14:17.58 | fundesktop | i.e. "System V IPC (SYSVIPC) [Y/n/?] " |
| 14:18.02 | mirak | is there a way to run a command when a device is unmounted ? I want to run fatsort when a usb device with fat32 file system is unmounted |
| 14:18.51 | zicho | Hm, when i press a button, it doesnt get repetaed if I holw down. What do I need to configure |
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| 14:19.22 | HNT | Hello everybody, I would like to know if ther is some syntax for iptables like ($if) (available in packet filter) to find automatically the ip address of an interface, does that stuff exist ? |
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| 14:20.13 | abrotman | HNT: #iptables |
| 14:20.36 | fundesktop | ok, I copied the "old" .config from the previous kernel, but make-kpkg keeps asking me questions |
| 14:20.54 | fundesktop | also, what about debian specific patches? |
| 14:21.04 | HNT | abrotman : I tried, but this channel react more quickly, so if anybody know ... |
| 14:21.27 | rdorsch | is there an archive of this IRC channel somewhere? |
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| 14:22.44 | zand | a kmuto install of etch will upgrade happily to lenny, right? c.c |
| 14:22.55 | wols_ | zand: yes |
| 14:23.04 | abrotman | zand: you may need to install the kernel metapackage if you want the lenny kernel |
| 14:23.17 | wols_ | fundesktop: install the kernel-source if you want them |
| 14:23.22 | rdorsch | How do I find out the UUID of a swap partition? |
| 14:23.24 | wols_ | rdorsch: no. hopefully |
| 14:23.32 | wols_ | !uuid |
| 14:23.32 | dpkg | somebody said uuid was a universally unique identifier used to label disk partitions, among other things. To see the currently-known partition UUIDs, look in /dev/disk/by-uuid. To mount or boot by uuid, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. |
| 14:23.48 | enouf | fundesktop: with your shiny spankin new .24 - you take an old .config, customize it using make menuconfig, then make-kpkg - otherwise use debian source if you want debian patches |
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| 14:25.02 | rdorsch | I want to use UUID because the device numbering might change when I attach disks. |
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| 14:25.14 | rdorsch | for regular partitions that works for me. |
| 14:25.14 | fundesktop | anyway, I just kept pressing "enter" *g* |
| 14:25.16 | zicho | Hm, when i press a button, it doesn't get repeated if I hold it down. What do I need to configure? |
| 14:25.20 | ricosecada | what am I missing? g++ has no man page? |
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| 14:26.08 | zand | ricosecada: but gcc does |
| 14:26.21 | ricosecada | not on my stable |
| 14:26.35 | zand | do you have gcc installed? |
| 14:26.42 | abrotman | gcc docs are in non-free |
| 14:26.47 | zand | orly? lame |
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| 14:27.09 | rdorsch | I seems ubuntu has UUIDs for swap as well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364529 |
| 14:27.20 | abrotman | zand: like your spelling? :) |
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| 14:27.49 | abrotman | !info gcc-doc etch |
| 14:27.53 | dpkg | gcc-doc: (documentation for the GNU compilers (gcc, gobjc, g++)), section contrib/doc, is optional. Version: 4:4.1.1.nf3 (etch), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 16 kB |
| 14:28.02 | abrotman | oh, sorry, contrib |
| 14:28.09 | rdorsch | If there is no uuid for swap how would I specify in /etc/fstab the swap partition, robust against "hard disk reordering" |
| 14:28.46 | zand | abrotman: nope |
| 14:29.03 | enouf | rdorsch: use a LABEL for it |
| 14:30.08 | enouf | my swap has a uuid here, no probs |
| 14:31.44 | xiangyixiang | hi, i want to what time 4.0rc2 'iso released ? thanks! |
| 14:32.01 | abrotman | xiangyixiang: they're not there yet .. |
| 14:32.04 | zand | bugger, X no longer starts with new kernel... guess I have to recompile the stupid driver |
| 14:32.23 | xiangyixiang | two days later? |
| 14:32.41 | abrotman | xiangyixiang: you don't need them |
| 14:32.54 | abrotman | xiangyixiang: if you have http sources .. it will update automagically |
| 14:33.31 | xiangyixiang | oh ,i known ,but i need it to help other to install debian |
| 14:33.35 | rdorsch | enouf: Thanks for the label advice. How do you find out the uuid of your swap. |
| 14:33.39 | Reemo | wols_, i did some research, the cpu has i686, but there is no option for this. Is i586 ok or shell i fallback to 4/3 86? The help doesnt help me at all |
| 14:34.20 | abrotman | xiangyixiang: so use the r1 CDs |
| 14:34.47 | xiangyixiang | but the speed of update is so slowly! |
| 14:35.07 | wols_ | Reemo: there is a setting there explictly for your CPU |
| 14:35.20 | abrotman | xiangyixiang: then wait for the new ISOs |
| 14:35.38 | xiangyixiang | oh ,thanks abrotman |
| 14:35.38 | abrotman | Reemo: why are you compiling a kernel at all? |
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| 14:36.04 | gg | For practice? |
| 14:36.12 | gg | or practise |
| 14:36.17 | abrotman | practice |
| 14:36.25 | gg | ok which one is Practise again? |
| 14:36.39 | abrotman | wols_: it's permasunday! |
| 14:36.45 | enouf | rdorsch: dpkg told you earlier, ls -l /dev/disk/* |
| 14:37.07 | PaulTT | Hi all... I'm wondering how I go about installing mysql-client-5.0 on debian sarge |
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| 14:37.24 | PaulTT | I saw something about sarge-backports, but I've never used that before. |
| 14:37.24 | abrotman | PaulTT: check backports.org .. but why not use etch? |
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| 14:38.35 | PaulTT | abrotman: I'm a bit hesitant to upgrade my current server |
| 14:38.39 | enouf | rdorsch: udevinfo -q all -n /dev/nameX will also show you 0 if you have trouble getting a /dev/name, try cat /proc/swaps |
| 14:38.55 | PaulTT | abrotman: I've not done that before with a production machine |
| 14:39.05 | wols_ | PaulTT: sooner or later (like next april) you will have to,no more security updates |
| 14:39.40 | abrotman | PaulTT: but you're okay with installing backports of ... mysql? |
| 14:39.44 | PaulTT | wols_: my method up until this point has been to create a server in parallel with the latest debian and once it was configured, switch dns |
| 14:39.50 | Reemo | thanks wols_ found the option |
| 14:40.05 | PaulTT | well, I found packages.debian.org/sarge-backports --what's that? |
| 14:40.08 | spldart | How can I get a computer @ work, that I ssh into periodically and whose ip changes once every so often (dsl), to automatically contact my home IP, whos IP changes very infrequently, with updates of it's ip? |
| 14:40.21 | PaulTT | I thought it might be a supported channel for installing backports |
| 14:40.32 | zand | spldart: use dyndns |
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| 14:40.43 | wols_ | PaulTT: it is the standard debian channel for them but they are no no way supported by anyone |
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| 14:40.44 | zand | !dyndns |
| 14:40.45 | dpkg | dyndns provides hostnames for dynamic/static ips for free: http://www.dyndns.org/, or apt-get install ddclient |
| 14:41.30 | drwx | hi, at the end of my etch installation, I want to choose the disk where I install grub. is it possible? |
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| 14:41.40 | spldart | Had that recomended once already.. Just thought there would be a good way to keep it private to me and not involve anything else..... |
| 14:41.45 | zand | spldart: though doesn't work very well for me, so I have a cron job that wgets something from my server every 10 minutes so I can check the Ip address |
| 14:41.48 | PaulTT | Do you all recommend upgrading a production machine to etch? |
| 14:41.55 | zand | ddclient is in debian |
| 14:42.04 | spldart | research |
| 14:42.27 | PaulTT | (i.e. just update sources.list and run update/upgrade?) |
| 14:42.32 | zand | no |
| 14:42.35 | zand | !sarge->etch |
| 14:42.36 | dpkg | sarge->etch is read the etch release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes ; the recommended upgrade procedure for sarge->etch is no longer as simple as running "aptitude dist-upgrade", please follow the prodedure in the <release notes>. Also ask me about <security> |
| 14:43.06 | zand | but anyway, for upgrading a production system I might do a swap-in of the new OS/machine |
| 14:43.34 | zand | at least make sure you have a backup so you can restore it if it all goes pear shaped |
| 14:43.37 | drwx | at the end of my etch installation, I want to choose the disk where I install grub. is it possible? |
| 14:43.48 | spldart | I'd follow that method too.. sarge to etch isn't the most reliable |
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| 14:43.59 | spldart | upgrade that is |
| 14:44.06 | zand | yeah |
| 14:44.57 | xsdg | drwx: are you using grub currently? |
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| 14:46.01 | drwx | xsdg: yes but my problem is : I want to install grub on my usb disk and not on my hard disk |
| 14:46.10 | drwx | at the end of the installation |
| 14:46.38 | xsdg | drwx: how are you installing? |
| 14:46.42 | xsdg | (and where?) |
| 14:46.58 | drwx | I dont want to touch the pc of my friend |
| 14:47.04 | helo | is it no longer that simple (dist-upgrade) because there were problems with it, or did something change to make the upgrade more complicated more after the initial release? |
| 14:47.11 | drwx | I use debian installation |
| 14:47.14 | helo | err |
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| 14:47.26 | abrotman | helo: there are things you should make sure you've done before doing that |
| 14:47.35 | drwx | and I choose sda1 |
| 14:47.40 | xsdg | drwx: if you're installing to the USB drive, you can certainly install grub on it |
| 14:47.41 | wols_ | helo: etch libc6 and kernel 2.4 don't mix and might lead to a non booting system |
| 14:48.41 | drwx | xsdg, yes but the debian installator dont let me choice to install grub on sda1 |
| 14:49.07 | helo | oh, ok... yeah i believe the sarge->etch upgrade i did involved some skullduggery with libc |
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| 14:49.12 | zand | drwx: where does it say it will isntall it? the usb disk is treated as a harddisk |
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| 14:49.23 | drwx | xsdg: force me to install on the first disk |
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| 14:49.34 | zand | drwx: are you sure that's not the usb disk? |
| 14:49.52 | Jargoyle | hi, hey I would like to rsync data from another server but I cant remember the proper command for it |
| 14:49.58 | Jargoyle | could anyone throw me a bone? |
| 14:50.02 | rdorsch | enouf: when I call mkswap with a -L option I get a label and a UUID. blkid then also shows this uuid. Thanks |
| 14:50.15 | abrotman | Jargoyle: man rsync |
| 14:50.22 | xsdg | Jargoyle: well, `man rsync`, though I usually use rsync -Pvaux <foo> <bar> |
| 14:50.28 | drwx | I have an hard disk hda1 dans a usb disk sda1, debian installator just want to install grub on hda1 |
| 14:50.54 | drwx | at the end of installation |
| 14:51.05 | xsdg | drwx: switch to the console and run grub-install manually? |
| 14:51.14 | Jargoyle | xsdg: rsync -Pvaux ip.ip.ip.ip/folder /folder eh |
| 14:51.16 | drwx | and I dont want to touch the hard disk of my friend |
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| 14:51.20 | xsdg | (I think the way to run it is "grub-install sda1" or something |
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| 14:51.48 | pengwyn | hosts.deny pause |
| 14:51.50 | remote | morning, is anyone using firefox 2 on an AMD 64 Processor? |
| 14:52.05 | remote | er iceweasel. i'm trying to have java plugin working |
| 14:52.06 | drwx | ok I will try, thank you |
| 14:52.14 | wols_ | !anyone |
| 14:52.14 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 14:52.41 | remote | wols_: maybe i'll just go with "help!!" then |
| 14:52.46 | remote | wols_: help!! |
| 14:52.52 | spldart | Is there a way to make ddclient on work machine update a proggie on my home server, with the relatively static IP? Bypassing third party altogether. |
| 14:52.57 | remote | oh wait. my bad |
| 14:52.58 | enouf | rdorsch: sure, one more /lib/udev/vol_id /dev/hdXX as root |
| 14:53.29 | remote | wols_: java plugin is installed on my amd 64, it's looking real good in about:plugins but it doesn't work |
| 14:53.38 | xsdg | remote: which java plugin? |
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| 14:53.49 | remote | java6 |
| 14:53.52 | remote | hold on |
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| 14:54.03 | real0ne | i have this message XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X Server ":0.0" |
| 14:54.05 | real0ne | help plz |
| 14:54.18 | xsdg | remote: is it saying anything useful on the console? |
| 14:54.21 | remote | pool/non-free/s/sun-java6/sun-java6-plugin_6-03-2_i386.deb |
| 14:54.34 | xsdg | remote: note _i386 |
| 14:55.12 | rdorsch | I replaced now /dev/... by its uuids in fstab and menu.lst. The only reference to /dev/sdx left is in /boot/grub/device.map. This file is read a boot time, right? Any idea how I get rid of this direct reference? |
| 14:55.13 | remote | yes, i think i'm not understanding how things work here |
| 14:55.21 | abrotman | i386 is not amd64 |
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| 14:55.30 | remote | all the packages i have installed are i386 |
| 14:55.52 | remote | big lie? |
| 14:55.57 | real0ne | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X Server ":0.0" |
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| 14:56.01 | abrotman | did you restart iceweasel after installing it? |
| 14:56.30 | enouf | rdorsch: you don't afaik, could ask in #grub for sure maybe - or trapse through grub's manual to se if it's supported, which i doubt highly |
| 14:56.35 | DustyBin | im thinking about buying a small UPS for my home server, is there linux software available what will control a APC UPS, like this: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BK350EI |
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| 14:56.57 | abrotman | DustyBin: apt-cache search apc ups |
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| 14:57.11 | DustyBin | jeeze i didnt expect that :D |
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| 14:57.45 | abrotman | DustyBin: not sure if it will control that one specifically .. probably should read the docs |
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| 14:58.01 | DustyBin | id like my home server to be connected to the UPS and my router, however, my router uses different power connectors, how would one connect it to that UPS? |
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| 14:58.09 | DeiviDMD | hi... |
| 14:58.12 | remote | how do you get installed package version? |
| 14:58.16 | remote | what command |
| 14:58.19 | abrotman | remote: dpkg -l <pkg> |
| 14:58.25 | pdani_ | hi |
| 14:58.28 | abrotman | or apt-cache policy <pkg> |
| 14:58.42 | remote | i'm looking for the whole filename (eg. sun-java6-plugin_6-03-2_i386) |
| 14:59.00 | DeiviDMD | can someone help me with appletouch module?? |
| 14:59.16 | abrotman | remote: either your system is amd64 or i386 |
| 14:59.20 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: ask a question and someone will help if they can |
| 14:59.28 | abrotman | remote: "dpkg-architecture" will tell you |
| 14:59.37 | enouf | remote: prefix with COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l \*java* |
| 14:59.44 | remote | abrotman: yup.. i386 |
| 14:59.49 | DeiviDMD | thank's xsdg |
| 14:59.50 | DeiviDMD | ;) |
| 14:59.58 | xsdg | :o) |
| 15:00.16 | spldart | hehe |
| 15:00.38 | DeiviDMD | I buy a macbook and I have problems for config the touchpad |
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| 15:01.10 | DeiviDMD | I patch the kernel with the mactel-patchs, but nothing |
| 15:01.20 | real0ne | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X Server ":0.0" |
| 15:01.28 | remote | what does it mean? i'll say i never really took the time to look into configuring this install correctly but, how do you get an x64 install? |
| 15:01.28 | real0ne | no one can help |
| 15:01.29 | rdorsch | enouf: thanks for #grub, I will ask there. |
| 15:01.30 | real0ne | me |
| 15:01.31 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: did you configure the kernel to include the stuff from the patch? |
| 15:01.40 | abrotman | remote: don't switch now |
| 15:01.41 | Jargoyle | darny, I cant get the cross-server rsync to work |
| 15:01.48 | xsdg | real0ne: where are you getting that from? |
| 15:01.50 | remote | i'm not really wanting to |
| 15:02.00 | DeiviDMD | yes xsdg... |
| 15:02.03 | remote | everything's OK |
| 15:02.05 | abrotman | remote: is the java5 plugin available? |
| 15:02.11 | remote | wait. |
| 15:02.47 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: is it mentioned in /var/log/dmesg (or in the `dmesg` command)? |
| 15:03.10 | DeiviDMD | dmesg command |
| 15:03.14 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: alternately, is there something else that suggests that it was definitely compiled in successfully? |
| 15:03.19 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: what does it say? |
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| 15:04.08 | DeiviDMD | I compiled and install. Later run with the new kernel... xsdg |
| 15:04.25 | remote | so, where should you define you want x64 binaries? |
| 15:04.29 | DeiviDMD | xsdg, the module its loaded... but not run correctly |
| 15:04.35 | remote | just apt's source lists? |
| 15:04.36 | abrotman | remote: when you install |
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| 15:05.07 | DeiviDMD | I read about it and coment that its problem of usbhid and appletouch |
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| 15:05.18 | DeiviDMD | but I don't get more |
| 15:05.33 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: can you stick the exact error message somewhere? (for instance, http://rafb.net/paste/) |
| 15:06.08 | abrotman | remote: which version of debian is this? |
| 15:06.09 | plb | anyone recommend a good network manager for wireless? something lightweight but easy enough for a newb (aka my girlfriend) to use? |
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| 15:06.32 | DeiviDMD | xsdg, I don't get any error... |
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| 15:06.50 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: where do you see the thing about usbhid and appletouch? |
| 15:07.16 | abrotman | remote: have you checked the BTS? |
| 15:07.51 | DeiviDMD | xsdg, here http://www.jasonparekh.com/linux-on-macbook/ |
| 15:08.09 | spldart | thankies |
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| 15:08.10 | xsdg | remote: did you make sure that firefox wasn't running in the middle of the restart? |
| 15:08.13 | DeiviDMD | find trackpad section |
| 15:08.28 | xsdg | remote: (if it has any windows open at all, even a download window, it won't shut down completely) |
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| 15:09.26 | abrotman | remote: FWIW .. i just installed sun-java6-plugin on lenny, and started iceweasel and it was there |
| 15:10.09 | remote | abrotman: testing |
| 15:10.38 | mirak | I have this errors in dmesg, is it bad ? hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 15:10.38 | mirak | hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } |
| 15:10.41 | remote | abrotman: there? |
| 15:10.42 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: ok, so what modules are loaded? (again, if you paste the whole list, please don't paste them in the channel |
| 15:10.46 | abrotman | remote: make sure all instances of iceweasel are dead after installing sun-java6-plugin and sun-java6-jre |
| 15:10.51 | xsdg | mirak: yes, that error is bad :o) |
| 15:11.08 | xsdg | mirak: first thing to do is to check that your drive cables are seated properly |
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| 15:11.13 | mirak | xsdg: is it hardware or a FS problem ? |
| 15:11.20 | remote | yeah i know it's sneaky sometimes and keeps running in background for a good amount of time |
| 15:11.35 | xsdg | mirak: dma errors are hardware/(relatively infrequently) firmware |
| 15:12.42 | abrotman | or the dma setting? |
| 15:12.43 | mirak | xsdg: the problem I have is that I have two drives on this IDE port. One is a hitachi 80GB and got is right UDMA6 mode, while the seagate one a 250GB get a slow udma1 or 2 or 3 it depends, while it can support up to udma5 |
| 15:12.45 | DeiviDMD | loaded is appletouch, usbhid, usbmouse... |
| 15:12.52 | DeiviDMD | xsdg, |
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| 15:13.18 | mirak | I even got it in pio sometimes |
| 15:13.31 | xsdg | mirak: what kernel version? |
| 15:13.35 | mirak | xsdg abrotman : not sure |
| 15:13.39 | mirak | 2.6.22 |
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| 15:14.01 | xsdg | mirak: first thing is to install `hdparm` |
| 15:14.19 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: ok. so what's not working properly? |
| 15:14.19 | xand | yay, a billion perl locale warnings during dist-upgrade |
| 15:14.22 | mirak | xsdg: it's installed, I know how to force umda level also. |
| 15:14.34 | xsdg | xand: is perl being upgraded? |
| 15:14.42 | mirak | xsdg: but it's still troublesome |
| 15:14.44 | xand | dunno maybe |
| 15:14.44 | xsdg | mirak: you shouldn't force UDMA leel |
| 15:14.51 | xsdg | level* |
| 15:14.57 | mirak | xsdg: ah |
| 15:15.04 | xand | oh great, it failed |
| 15:15.08 | mirak | xsdg: so any idea how I could get rid of this message ? |
| 15:15.18 | xsdg | mirak: well, the message isn't the problem |
| 15:15.20 | DeiviDMD | xsdg, the scrolling & the 3 and 2 button |
| 15:15.29 | Insolit | hi guys not sure if this is the proper channel to ask this question, but for each router, switch do i need to create a subnetwork? |
| 15:15.50 | xsdg | Insolit: you don't have to, though it makes things easier |
| 15:16.34 | xsdg | xand: what happened? |
| 15:16.50 | xand | it was upset about me having NFS things mounted |
| 15:16.56 | abrotman | xsdg: a million warnings about locales! |
| 15:16.58 | xand | maybe it's ok now... |
| 15:17.13 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: ok, so what you can try is stopping X, unloading the appletouch and usbmouse modules, making sure the synaptics module is loaded, and restarting X |
| 15:17.26 | Insolit | i just did not want to have multiple networks |
| 15:17.31 | xsdg | abrotman: 15:15:04 < xand> oh great, it failed |
| 15:17.44 | abrotman | xsdg: the dist-upgrade! |
| 15:18.00 | xsdg | Insolit: is there any reason you have multiple routers? |
| 15:18.15 | xsdg | mirak: when did this start happening? |
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| 15:18.52 | xand | what insolence is this! |
| 15:18.59 | mirak | xsdg: I can't rememmber, probably 2 years ago ^^ |
| 15:19.02 | DeiviDMD | xsdg, the synaptics module it's part of the xorg, and not of kernel, true? |
| 15:19.03 | xand | update-manager is a ubuntu version |
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| 15:19.35 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: I believe so, but I'm not sure |
| 15:19.43 | mirak | xsdg: I think it happened on my recent motherboard. I bought a new harddrive and downgraded it into a a lowest computer |
| 15:19.46 | abrotman | xand: debian has it also |
| 15:19.47 | xand | hmm, it is in etch too |
| 15:19.55 | xsdg | mirak: and things have been working since then? |
| 15:19.57 | xand | but... it has ubuntu in the version name! dirty :P |
| 15:20.07 | abrotman | xand: it's just not installed by default with the desktops |
| 15:20.26 | mirak | xsdg: yes. Only problem are performances. I didn't encountered any bad corruption |
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| 15:20.55 | DeiviDMD | xsdg, get that the sensors of presoure detect the 1 button |
| 15:21.03 | xsdg | mirak: ok, first question: do you have another cable you can try? does your IDE chipset support the speeds that you want to run at? |
| 15:21.11 | DeiviDMD | xsdg, but not scroll and 2 buton |
| 15:21.31 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: presoure? |
| 15:21.35 | mirak | xsdg: I have another drive plugued on the same cable which runs fine in UDMA6 mode |
| 15:21.39 | Insolit | xsdg: yes. First router receives dsl connection, and connects to a box for IPTV, and then i send an ethernet cable to another box far way so that i can have two TV's with IPTV. In the second TV i mean to connect one switch, so that i can split the ethernet to the TV and to a wireless router in the middle of the house. |
| 15:21.51 | mirak | xsdg: that's definitely a drive issue I think |
| 15:21.51 | Insolit | So I'll have two routers and one switch |
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| 15:22.10 | Insolit | the best would be to put the switch to work as a hub |
| 15:22.12 | abrotman | the wireless router doesn't have to be a router |
| 15:22.37 | Insolit | abrotman: but the wireless router is a router where i installed the openwrt firmware |
| 15:22.43 | Insolit | and where i can control things better |
| 15:22.50 | DeiviDMD | pressure |
| 15:22.53 | abrotman | still doesn't have to be a router .. but whatever |
| 15:22.56 | Insolit | the other router is a lame router where i can't have that sort of control |
| 15:23.01 | xsdg | mirak: are you using an 80-conductor IDE cable? |
| 15:23.03 | DeiviDMD | xsdg, sorry, i want say pressure |
| 15:23.06 | subopt | I've got both Python2.4 and Python2.5 installed on Etch. What do i need to do to make v2.5 the default? (I'm fine with removing v2.4.) |
| 15:23.07 | mirak | xsdg: and it's a nforce2 chipset |
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| 15:23.16 | Insolit | abrotman: what can it be then? |
| 15:23.21 | xsdg | DeiviDMD: aah, ok |
| 15:23.23 | mirak | xsdg: yes, otherwise the other drive couldn't be in UDMA6 also I guess |
| 15:23.36 | abrotman | you can just make it an access point .. |
| 15:23.52 | d0uglas | Hi. I had my server all set up and ready to go, web, mta, all good, though the registrar's doing dns.. Now i got a few more domains and I'd like to run them on the same box but i'd like to keep this simple. For http i am doing stealth forwarding on the registrar rather than apache settings, but for postfix, other than adding the domains to the destinations, where should i look or what should i rtfm |
| 15:23.57 | d0uglas | pls/tks |
| 15:23.58 | xsdg | mirak: you should actually check; one drive might be more sensitive than the other |
| 15:23.59 | abrotman | Insolit: i'm not sure it really matters or answers your question .. but it doesn't have to be a router per se |
| 15:24.06 | xsdg | (especially if it's the farther drive on the cable) |
| 15:24.32 | abrotman | MOO |
| 15:24.41 | zophy | what converts pdf to text ? |
| 15:24.58 | xsdg | zophy: pdftotext |
| 15:24.58 | d0uglas | zophy: not sure about linux but acrobat has bad OCR |
| 15:25.00 | Yancho | i did this in /etc/fstab : //10.0.0.1/d /mnt/share smbfs username="Matthew\ Pulis",password=PASS,uid=jpulis,gid=fuse 0 0 - but it is not working .. doesn't it mean add to uid jpulis and group fuse ? |
| 15:25.07 | d0uglas | nevermind sophy |
| 15:25.24 | mirak | xsdg: yes, but I think that I had also this issue when using it on my other motherboard, so with different cables |
| 15:25.26 | xsdg | zophy: in xpdf-utils |
| 15:25.32 | xsdg | oh, ok |
| 15:25.33 | d0uglas | sometimes you may find it saves time and frustration to retype a document than try to OCR a pdf |
| 15:25.41 | zophy | silly me |
| 15:25.42 | abrotman | d0uglas: what are you trying to make postfix do? |
| 15:26.05 | d0uglas | abrotman: host mail for another few domains |
| 15:26.11 | mirak | xsdg: a powersupply died with this drive pluggued, so maybe he got some damage |
| 15:26.21 | abrotman | did you read the docs at www.postfix.org ? |
| 15:26.25 | mirak | xsdg: the motherboard died also ... |
| 15:26.31 | d0uglas | nope, i'll go there |
| 15:26.48 | d0uglas | <-- i actually do read links, just ask annoyingly first |
| 15:27.00 | xsdg | mirak: that sounds plausible; is there anything useful in the SMART data for the drive? |
| 15:27.33 | xsdg | mirak: (install smartmontools to look) |
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| 15:28.09 | d0uglas | abrotman: oo nice docs.. off the top of your head, for webmail, would you recommend any of these over the other? vpostmaster, zimbra, phpgroupware, squirrelmail, openwebmail, @mail, imp, neomail, camas, imho? and is there such thing as a linux "push" server? |
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| 15:28.13 | d0uglas | for imap... |
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| 15:28.39 | d0uglas | or horde3 |
| 15:28.41 | abrotman | d0uglas: i've used horde and roundcube |
| 15:28.51 | d0uglas | k thanks abrotman |
| 15:29.00 | abrotman | a push server for what? |
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| 15:29.25 | mirak | xsdg: I do that. I currently run on a TV with a VGA adapteur and can't see boot process |
| 15:29.29 | cousin_luigi | hello! |
| 15:29.29 | d0uglas | for phones with exchange clients to have constant connections to a mail server |
| 15:29.42 | cousin_luigi | do you know of any debian-mips specific channel? |
| 15:29.44 | abrotman | d0uglas: you'll have to try to find a webmail that suits you .. |
| 15:29.47 | abrotman | !mips |
| 15:29.48 | dpkg | [mips] (Million Instructions Per Second) This is a rating of how quickly a processor can process instructions. A processor rated at 100 MIPS can process 100,000,000 instructions per second. or a port of linux to computers equiped with MIPS processors. or Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed, or a processor commonly found in video game console systems, and some computers, for more information, join #MIPSLinux. |
| 15:29.50 | xsdg | mirak: smartctl is your friend :o) |
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| 15:30.04 | abrotman | d0uglas: most of them can use imap also |
| 15:30.26 | cousin_luigi | thanks;) |
| 15:30.33 | d0uglas | abrotman: which is less of a bitch to set up, horde or roundcube? both have pretty screenshots |
| 15:30.35 | abrotman | d0uglas: we setup my coworkers verizon 'smart' phone to do imaps and he can send via postfix/tls |
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| 15:31.00 | abrotman | d0uglas: depends how complicated you want it to be .. roundcube is probably more simple .. but horde has the ability to do way more |
| 15:31.09 | d0uglas | right that's what i have but for the blackberry guys it would be nice for my demo if it didn't have a login cycle but instantaneous email reception |
| 15:31.25 | abrotman | that's what imap is ? |
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| 15:31.42 | d0uglas | i thought imap, more or less, was pop plus public folders |
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| 15:31.58 | d0uglas | then again i don't know what i'm talking about most of the time |
| 15:32.13 | abrotman | you kids watch too much tv! :) |
| 15:32.15 | xsdg | d0uglas: no, IMAP is considerably different than POP |
| 15:32.25 | d0uglas | i know it feels like it has a lot more overhead |
| 15:32.29 | d0uglas | i'll wikipedia imap |
| 15:32.34 | abrotman | !Imap |
| 15:32.34 | dpkg | i guess imap is (rfc2060) a protocol allowing a client to access and manipulate electronic mail messages on a server. It permits manipulation of remote message folders (mailboxes), in a way that is functionally equivalent to local mailboxes. IMAP includes operations for creating, deleting, and renaming mailboxes; checking for new messages; permanently removing messages; searching; and selective fetching of message attributes, texts, and portions thereof. |
| 15:32.43 | d0uglas | or you can do the ! thing :) |
| 15:32.57 | d0uglas | ahhh |
| 15:32.58 | abrotman | well .. wikipedia would have more information |
| 15:33.20 | d0uglas | currently roundcube/horde/postfix are on the top of the todo list |
| 15:33.21 | mirak | xsdg: http://pastebin.com/m2af85403 |
| 15:33.33 | d0uglas | abrotman: by the way, it's been a long time since i said thanks for the help over the years |
| 15:33.35 | d0uglas | thanks |
| 15:33.49 | abrotman | you're welcome |
| 15:34.25 | abrotman | d0uglas: if you just want simple webmail .. roundcube is probably easier to do .. however beware that it's fairly new .. it may still have some ugly bugs |
| 15:34.40 | petemc | its sluggish |
| 15:34.42 | petemc | ime |
| 15:34.50 | abrotman | petemc: compared to horde+imp ? |
| 15:35.00 | petemc | and squirrelmail |
| 15:35.04 | xand | hmm |
| 15:35.06 | abrotman | though i did also try dimp |
| 15:35.26 | mirak | xsdg: anything wrong ? |
| 15:35.35 | abrotman | petemc: i still use horde for my webmail .. but i setup roundcube for an alternative |
| 15:35.37 | d0uglas | abrotman: yeah just simple enough to say Hey look i the server can do webmail and it doesn't have to be that slow [vnc-like] server that we use for the main company's setup |
| 15:35.50 | d0uglas | so really, prettiness is key |
| 15:35.56 | xsdg | mirak: if you can unmount the drive, you might want to consider running a SMART offline test |
| 15:36.00 | petemc | abrotman: i do something similar |
| 15:36.06 | xand | my dist-upgrade has died again, this time because it can't stop hotkey-setup from running; it says: "KDSETKEYCODE: Invalid argument\nfailed to set scancode 1 to keycode 256"... should I just kill the process? :S |
| 15:36.22 | xsdg | mirak: (if not, an online test would still be good, though might not catch a problem that might be there |
| 15:36.24 | d0uglas | abrotman: now i would prefer ot install something like this from scratch but why in roundcube's case is it not on apt? |
| 15:36.34 | d0uglas | too complicated? |
| 15:36.38 | abrotman | d0uglas: see above .. it's new |
| 15:36.52 | abrotman | !info roundcube testing |
| 15:36.59 | dpkg | roundcube: (skinnable AJAX based webmail solution for IMAP servers), section web, is extra. Version: 0.1~rc2-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 475 kB, Installed size: 2410 kB |
| 15:37.16 | d0uglas | ajax i heard good things about that |
| 15:37.30 | d0uglas | sounds like a buzzword |
| 15:37.30 | abrotman | as petemc pointed out .. it can be slow |
| 15:37.46 | d0uglas | even with encryption off and on a decent machine? |
| 15:37.54 | mirak | xsdg: no I can't |
| 15:38.11 | mirak | xsdg: unless I can do that from windows |
| 15:38.41 | xsdg | mirak: you probably can, though I have no idea how |
| 15:38.58 | xsdg | (though I don't know if you can unmount things) |
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| 15:39.11 | xand | sigh |
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| 15:39.43 | abrotman | d0uglas: it'd be fine on a decent machine .. like i said .. you'll have to do some testing |
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| 15:40.05 | xsdg | xand: what's up? |
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| 15:41.21 | xand | xsdg: this: http://pastebin.ca/837334 |
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| 15:42.30 | Banana_Joe | Hello :) i got a question . when or does kde 4 come into sid? or just when it is kde 4.1? ( sorry for my bad english :( ) |
| 15:42.48 | xand | hmm http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=437360 |
| 15:42.49 | xsdg | xand: first off, `dpkg --configure --pending` to take care of the ones that don't depend on it |
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| 15:43.20 | xsdg | xand: (you might have to run that more than once) |
| 15:43.28 | abrotman | Banana_Joe: kde4 isn't released yet |
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| 15:44.24 | d0uglas | Every minute i get this emailed to me: (part one of two) PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20050606/gd.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20050606/gd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 [next line] PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20050606/gd.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20050606/gd.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on lin |
| 15:44.35 | d0uglas | php4 seems to otherwise work |
| 15:44.43 | enouf | cronjob? |
| 15:44.48 | abrotman | in etch? |
| 15:44.55 | abrotman | !find lib/php4/20050606/gd.so etch |
| 15:45.01 | Daveman | haha hot |
| 15:45.03 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'lib/php4/20050606/gd.so' returned no results. |
| 15:45.03 | xsdg | 2005? |
| 15:45.10 | abrotman | is that sarge? |
| 15:45.11 | xsdg | that's ancient :o) |
| 15:45.16 | xsdg | dunno |
| 15:45.18 | d0uglas | etch |
| 15:45.33 | d0uglas | should i toss on php5 for a quick fix here? |
| 15:45.45 | abrotman | Daveman: no more snow! .. i'm not in WI anymore! |
| 15:45.50 | Daveman | \o/ |
| 15:45.55 | Daveman | still cool here :P |
| 15:46.03 | d0uglas | oh and this is the subject: [Fwd: Cron <root@probulk> test -x /usr/bin/php4 && /usr/bin/php4 -q /usr/share/horde3/kronolith/scripts/reminders.php 1>&2 > /dev/null] |
| 15:46.05 | xand | erm |
| 15:46.06 | Banana_Joe | abrotman: i know. but wath is when it is releas :) |
| 15:46.19 | abrotman | Banana_Joe: ask #debian-kde .. see if they know |
| 15:46.22 | d0uglas | hmm horde3 that was old |
| 15:46.29 | xand | xsdg: this has a workaround I shall try: http://sidux.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-5314.html |
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| 15:46.37 | Daveman | :] |
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| 15:47.15 | xsdg | xand: cool; you should still run the dpkg command I gave you to take care of stuff, first |
| 15:47.37 | xand | I have |
| 15:47.37 | d0uglas | argh aww crap i installed horde from the source.. if it's the culprit behind these emails,.. argh. |
| 15:47.37 | xsdg | ::nod:: |
| 15:47.37 | d0uglas | cronjob |
| 15:47.37 | xand | thanks |
| 15:47.42 | xsdg | np; good luck with the workaround |
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| 15:47.56 | abrotman | d0uglas: you'll also need imp |
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| 15:49.04 | d0uglas | abrotman: i'm trying to uninstall horde, that was a very old install that has apparently resulted in a trillion emails |
| 15:49.09 | d0uglas | i want roundcube |
| 15:49.14 | abrotman | ok |
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| 15:49.56 | d0uglas | otoh maybe firing on imp and whatever dependencies (including horde) come with it and then roundcube might end the emails |
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| 15:52.28 | Yancho | enouf it is still not working :( this is how it is at the moment : //10.0.0.1/d /mnt/share smbfs username="Matthew\ Pulis",password=PASS,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 but if i do it manually it works : mount -t smbfs //10.0.0.1/d /mnt/share/ -o username="Matthew\ Pulis",password=PASS |
| 15:53.11 | karmatronic | hi people |
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| 15:54.24 | debianforlife | this is my SMB line in fstab |
| 15:54.32 | Nyle | HI |
| 15:54.41 | debianforlife | its not postingc |
| 15:54.47 | Asmooh | what libs did i need to run x32 stuff on x64 debian? |
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| 15:55.05 | enouf | Yancho: any errors in dmesg about the failed mount? check out also /var/log/kern.log, syslog etc, maybe there's a samba log or somehting |
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| 15:55.37 | d0uglas | abrotman: yikes.. read roundcube INSTALL and it says it wants php compiled with this and that.. can you please glance at the output from viewing index.php here and tell me how big a headache i got? http://pastebin.ca/837345 |
| 15:55.45 | enouf | Yancho: oh wait, you want to auto mount it? add the auto option |
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| 15:55.53 | abrotman | d0uglas: i didn't compile PHP and it works fine |
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| 15:56.07 | karmatronic | Yancho, and the user option too |
| 15:56.18 | karmatronic | Yancho, so you could mount it as your regular user and not root |
| 15:56.23 | abrotman | d0uglas: you didn't read the instructions it looks like |
| 15:56.30 | d0uglas | okay i'll read more |
| 15:56.36 | arnuld | I see that Debian divides its repos into free and non-free and one can install only Free softwares by editing sources.list |
| 15:56.42 | Yancho | karmatronic im adding the uid for that .. or its not enough? here it mentions just the uid : http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Mounting_smbfs_Shares_Permanently.html |
| 15:56.56 | arnuld | is it same in Etch and testing ? |
| 15:57.03 | d0uglas | ahh i see, wants new database |
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| 15:57.08 | xsdg | Asmooh: ia32libs, for one |
| 15:57.08 | d0uglas | think i can handle this |
| 15:57.10 | abrotman | arnuld: no .. etch is stable |
| 15:57.17 | xsdg | Asmooh: beyond that, I'm not sure |
| 15:57.17 | arnuld | I know |
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| 15:57.22 | karmatronic | Yancho, you ve made a point , but i think you still need the user option |
| 15:57.25 | abrotman | arnuld: oh .. i misread .. |
| 15:57.27 | arnuld | i eman do both have fre and non-free devision |
| 15:57.28 | enouf | Yancho: heh, wrong channel |
| 15:57.32 | karmatronic | Yancho, it s worth trying |
| 15:57.38 | abrotman | arnuld: in debian .. each version has main,contrib, and non-free |
| 15:58.00 | Yancho | enouf y wrong channel? :) |
| 15:58.01 | Asmooh | xsdg, okay thanks because i cant run my f.e.a.r. server because its 32bit and my debian is 64 |
| 15:58.26 | enouf | Yancho: we were in ##linux last 5 mins |
| 15:58.34 | Yancho | ow oops lol :) |
| 15:59.01 | Jargoyle | anyone using Dirvish around here? I seem to have a bit of a problem with the expiry |
| 15:59.12 | arnuld | abrotman: means "main and contrib = 100% Free distro" ? |
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| 15:59.28 | abrotman | !contrib |
| 15:59.28 | dpkg | well, contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free). To get packages in contrib, add lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free> |
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| 16:00.01 | arnuld | dpkg: I did not ask that |
| 16:00.03 | abrotman | that source line is kind of .. not useful :) |
| 16:00.24 | Nyle | !bot |
| 16:00.24 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 16:00.31 | Nyle | or talk to. |
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| 16:00.33 | abrotman | arnuld: packages in contrib are themselves free .. but likely depend on software that is non-free |
| 16:00.52 | arnuld | abrotman: Oh.. like GPLed Limewire :\ |
| 16:01.04 | abrotman | i don't use limewire .. wouldn't know |
| 16:01.05 | xand | sigh |
| 16:01.21 | xand | my fonts are too big now. |
| 16:01.22 | abrotman | arnuld: http://packages.debian.org/etch/contrib/ |
| 16:01.34 | Nyle | xand: changed your dpi? |
| 16:01.44 | arnuld | abrotman: but I used it and i know, sam eis Frostwire, GPL software depedent on proprietary JRE :( |
| 16:01.45 | Nyle | xand: or used bigger fonts? |
| 16:01.48 | xand | Nyle: I expect the meddling nvidia script did |
| 16:02.00 | abrotman | arnuld: oh .. then yes |
| 16:02.06 | Nyle | xand: check |
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| 16:02.10 | xand | I am. |
| 16:02.11 | Nyle | which nvidia script |
| 16:02.13 | Nyle | btw |
| 16:02.21 | Nyle | you mean in the installer or something? |
| 16:02.31 | xand | NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.07-pkg2.run |
| 16:02.37 | Nyle | eh |
| 16:02.42 | abrotman | evil! |
| 16:02.48 | Nyle | that doesn't modify xorg.conf or anything that launches X |
| 16:02.48 | xand | it's the installer for the nvidia driver |
| 16:02.52 | xand | yes it does |
| 16:02.55 | Nyle | I've used it aplenty |
| 16:03.03 | Nyle | I've a 7600gs on my sid box |
| 16:03.03 | xand | well... it does :P |
| 16:03.12 | Nyle | well how did you run it? |
| 16:03.24 | xand | "sh blah.run" |
| 16:03.39 | Nyle | it shouldn't modify your xorg |
| 16:03.40 | Nyle | hm |
| 16:03.53 | Nyle | unless they did something new to it |
| 16:03.57 | xand | it does, to put the right driver in |
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| 16:04.02 | xand | anyway, it didn't make that change :| |
| 16:04.10 | Nyle | who/what did? |
| 16:04.17 | xand | diff says the only difference is the version number |
| 16:04.28 | xand | so it must be some xorg update |
| 16:04.34 | xand | or something else in lenny |
| 16:04.38 | xand | actually, I know what it is. |
| 16:04.41 | Nyle | xand: im just gonna throw it out there, just to ask... you're not on crack right? |
| 16:04.45 | Nyle | ;) |
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| 16:04.47 | xand | WHAT? |
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| 16:04.49 | Nyle | j/k |
| 16:04.50 | xand | no |
| 16:05.22 | xand | I remember I had this before... etch sets the dpi to 96x96... lenny tries to be clever but does it wrong |
| 16:05.56 | enouf | Yancho: once you get it working on startup, go over the "Providing Security" section and incorporate that, from the URL you posted |
| 16:06.06 | Nyle | um.. afaik there is no forced dpi, xorg determines what to set this based on the edid info returned from the monitor |
| 16:06.09 | Nyle | afaik |
| 16:06.16 | enouf | now i did the wrong channel, gah |
| 16:06.32 | Nyle | IF that doesn't work, then you can force a dpi but thats really just an ugly hack |
| 16:07.02 | Nyle | !dpi |
| 16:07.02 | dpkg | methinks dpi is your Dots Per Inch setting, which affects the size of your fonts. Remove any explicit DPI settings in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc or your display manager's configuration file, and X should autodetect your DPI. If not, add DisplaySize Width_in_milimeters Height_in_millimeters to Section "Monitor" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. |
| 16:07.23 | Nyle | or xorg.conf old factoid |
| 16:07.41 | xand | yes it detects it, but I don't want it to |
| 16:07.46 | xand | I want it to force the dpi |
| 16:07.50 | Nyle | then specify the one you want |
| 16:08.19 | xand | but it means I have to put the wrong mm size in xorg.conf after working out what it should be ;) |
| 16:08.24 | xsdg | dpkg: factinfo dpi |
| 16:08.24 | dpkg | dpi -- last modified at Tue Jun 15 19:50:47 2004 by JoshTriplett!~Josh_Trip@wbar2.sea1-4-5-064-250.sea1.dsl-verizon.net; it has been requested 62 times, last by Nyle, 1m 22s ago. |
| 16:08.38 | xsdg | that's what I suspected... ancient :o) |
| 16:08.39 | Nyle | either startx -- -dpi XXX, or in xorg.conf, or kdm/gdm conf files (ServerCmd) |
| 16:08.42 | xand | I don't agree with its choice of dpi |
| 16:08.54 | Nyle | well it works like its supposed to really |
| 16:09.11 | Nyle | or xserverrc |
| 16:09.14 | Nyle | that too |
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| 16:14.08 | mirak | xsdg: is there a way to obtain from linux the bios info about the cylinders and heads ? |
| 16:14.13 | xand | Nyle: supposed to maybe, but doesn't mean it does it well |
| 16:14.22 | xand | the fonts are way too big |
| 16:14.34 | xsdg | mirak: cfdisk (which means that fdisk probably will also, though I only specifically know how in cfdisk) |
| 16:14.37 | Nyle | I'm sure you can fix it |
| 16:14.42 | Yancho | ok enouf :) im rebooting to check :) |
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| 16:16.34 | mirak | xsdg: http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/Large-Disk-11.html it seems I have this kind of problems. cfdisk -l or hdparm doesn't return same values for cylinder and heads and sectors |
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| 16:17.29 | xsdg | mirak: actually, I forgot to ask; why do you care? |
| 16:17.40 | xsdg | mirak: LBA superceded heads and sectors _long_ ago |
| 16:18.01 | mirak | xsdg: in fdisk I have 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, so I guess this are bios values, and in hdparm I haveRawCHS=16383/16/63, |
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| 16:18.30 | mirak | xsdg: I agree but it seems there might be a problem with partition table. |
| 16:18.51 | mirak | xsdg: and I found out that it seems the error I copied before might comes from this problems |
| 16:19.12 | pumpkin0 | mirak: LBA is the standard for discs > 512MB. It is used since the first pentium. Forget CHS. |
| 16:19.43 | xsdg | mirak: 16383/16/63 are the generic numbers that get stuck in when LBS is being used |
| 16:19.54 | xsdg | mirak: note that 16383 and 63 are both 2^n-1 |
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| 16:21.18 | mirak | pumpkin0: or but when I compare the two lba of my 80 GB drive and 250GB, I have lba values respectively of 160086528 and 268435455 and as you can see, the ratio between both size and sectors is not quiet similar |
| 16:21.23 | zeldafan500 | any chess programs for debian where you play chess against the computer |
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| 16:22.17 | pumpkin0 | mirak: that sound like a error. But it is not related to the CHS-values. |
| 16:22.21 | xsdg | mirak: do the partition starts and lengths approximately match what you'd expect? (in kB, not cylinders) |
| 16:22.36 | Nyle | !tell zeldafan500 -about search |
| 16:22.40 | mirak | xsdg: 250/80=3,125 and 1,6 for sectors |
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| 16:22.50 | abrotman | zeldafan500: i would imagine they all do ? |
| 16:23.02 | mirak | pumpkin0: yes I agree it's not, I trying to find out |
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| 16:23.46 | pumpkin0 | xsdg: get the partition table read by fdisk (sfdisk) for both HDs into a pastebin. |
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| 16:23.54 | pumpkin0 | erm... mirak |
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| 16:26.33 | mirak | pumpkin0 xsdg mm yes I am looking at it, but the partitions numbers are not in an order, so I have problem reading fdisk content ^^ |
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| 16:28.09 | FabioBR | Hi, im trying to install debian on my new pc... im trying to install debian 4.0 amd64 (i have 4gb ram), but in the middle of the installation, the install doesn't detect my cdrom drive... Anyone has some suggestions??? |
| 16:28.36 | Nyle | which motherboard is it FabioBR ? |
| 16:28.42 | FabioBR | Asus P5k SE |
| 16:29.00 | Nyle | FabioBR: I would look on the mobo specs to find out who made the pata controller |
| 16:29.01 | xsdg | FabioBR: what are you going to use the machine for? |
| 16:29.04 | abrotman | !kmuto |
| 16:29.04 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 16:29.16 | enouf | mirak: cat /proc/partitions? |
| 16:29.18 | mirak | pumpkin0 xsdg : the partitions size in blocks are ok, but for the drive where I have crc errors and such, the LBA value is way lower than the end of the last partition. On my otherdrive it's ok |
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| 16:29.19 | Nyle | if indeed you are using a pata controller |
| 16:29.37 | FabioBR | Nyle: Ok, ill try to see the mobo specs... one minute! |
| 16:29.44 | xsdg | FabioBR: it might not make sense to use amd64 if you don't need it (especially if you want to run closed-source applications) |
| 16:29.47 | Nyle | you can try kmuto's etch di or you can try testing |
| 16:29.51 | FabioBR | xsdg: Ill run oracle and jboss |
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| 16:30.09 | Nyle | basically a newer kernel |
| 16:30.22 | xsdg | FabioBR: not familiar with jboss. if they are closed-source, you might want to check that they can run in a 64-bit userspace |
| 16:30.26 | FabioBR | xsdg: I need to use amd64 because 32 bits cant map 4gb ram |
| 16:30.38 | xsdg | FabioBR: that's not really true |
| 16:30.39 | Nyle | FabioBR: well, it can |
| 16:30.43 | mirak | /dev/hda1 63 488392064 244196001 5 Extended , -----> LBAsects=268435455 |
| 16:30.43 | FabioBR | ? |
| 16:30.46 | steinchen | xingu, switched to nfs now .. bandwidth is ok now - but i cant write in that folder when binding with mount --bind |
| 16:30.46 | FabioBR | how? |
| 16:31.01 | xsdg | FabioBR: the kernel has ways |
| 16:31.03 | Nyle | FabioBR: you have to probably recompile the kernel with the himem something or other option enabled |
| 16:31.08 | Nyle | i forget exactly what the option was |
| 16:31.09 | abrotman | pae |
| 16:31.11 | pumpkin0 | FabioBR: PAE can do > 4GB in 32 Bit. |
| 16:31.17 | abrotman | !pae |
| 16:31.17 | dpkg | Physical Address Extension (PAE) refers to a feature of x86 and x86-64 processors that allows more than 4 gibibytes (GiB) of physical memory to be used in 32-bit systems, given appropriate operating system support. The Linux kernel supports PAE starting from 2.6.x It has full PAE support, enabling access of up to 64 GiB of memory on 32-bit machines. |
| 16:31.39 | abrotman | does oracle even have a 64bit version ? |
| 16:31.43 | abrotman | for linux i mean |
| 16:32.03 | xsdg | FabioBR: the real limit for 32-bit is 4 GB _per process_ |
| 16:32.14 | FabioBR | Nyle: Ow... ill try to lookup for this! |
| 16:32.18 | pumpkin0 | FabioBR: But PAE is a tad slower than 64Bit. If orcale come with 64Bit => go 64Bit. |
| 16:32.18 | xsdg | FabioBR: but if you only have 4 gigs of memory, that won't be an issue |
| 16:32.22 | FabioBR | xsdg: undestand |
| 16:32.37 | FabioBR | pumpkin0: thanks! |
| 16:33.31 | pumpkin0 | FabioBR: anyway: my guess for your MoBo is a cheap Intel-Chipset w/o PATA-controller. The PATA is done by a USB-PATA chip. |
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| 16:33.56 | Nyle | ich8 is mine |
| 16:34.03 | Nyle | jmicron pata, piece of shit |
| 16:34.28 | abrotman | pumpkin0: it's an asus |
| 16:34.38 | Nyle | i will wait for this dvd burner to die out, and then get a sata one |
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| 16:34.53 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: didn't asus do these intel-chipsets too ? |
| 16:35.12 | xsdg | pumpkin0: keep in mind that PATA might be handled by the SATA controller also |
| 16:35.14 | abrotman | you mean intel CPU mobos? or actual intel chipsets? |
| 16:35.38 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: chipsets. ICH8, codename 9XX-something. |
| 16:35.48 | Nyle | 965p |
| 16:36.05 | pumpkin0 | Nyle: thanks. |
| 16:36.15 | Nyle | yup |
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| 16:36.30 | mirak | xsdg: so I guess it's a problem that the LBA value is wrong |
| 16:36.30 | pumpkin0 | xsdg: let's count the number of SATA-ports ? |
| 16:36.36 | abrotman | pumpkin0: i don't think asus makes ich boards |
| 16:36.47 | xsdg | pumpkin0: huh? |
| 16:36.50 | mirak | xsdg: it can only be a seagte problem isn't it ? |
| 16:36.58 | pumpkin0 | mirak: post the partitiontable to a pastesite. |
| 16:37.11 | xsdg | mirak: you should really run a SMART self-test |
| 16:37.36 | pumpkin0 | xsdg: the SATA-controller loses 1 port per PATA.. so if the board comes with 3 SATA... |
| 16:38.04 | RickEvans | I want to install a Flash-equiv... I don't really _care_ if it's from Adobe or not. Using Etch. sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree isn't working.... |
| 16:38.04 | abrotman | or it only actually has three ? |
| 16:38.12 | abrotman | RickEvans: it says? |
| 16:38.22 | RickEvans | has no install candidate |
| 16:38.25 | mirak | xsdg: hem do you think smart decided half end of my drive is unusable ? ^^ |
| 16:38.32 | abrotman | RickEvans: did you add non-free sources? |
| 16:38.38 | RickEvans | Probably not. |
| 16:38.40 | pumpkin0 | xsdg: it can be a dying HD. It could be a wrong partition table. Or a bad format. Since we don't see any info ... |
| 16:38.41 | xsdg | mirak: ... |
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| 16:38.54 | RickEvans | I'm not a frequent Debian user. Sorry. |
| 16:38.55 | xsdg | mirak: run the test, it will give you a result that you can interpret |
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| 16:39.15 | xsdg | mirak: it's no use guessing what it will tell you |
| 16:39.16 | abrotman | RickEvans: in your /etc/apt/sources/list .. what is your main apt source? |
| 16:39.19 | pumpkin0 | xsdg: (found in the backlog: http://pastebin.com/m2af85403 =) |
| 16:39.44 | xsdg | pumpkin0: I know; that's smart info, not a self-test |
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| 16:40.16 | RickEvans | deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian etch main is all I have in there. |
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| 16:40.22 | pumpkin0 | xsdg: 81 errors in a short time, last 4 related to DMA => lose cable ? |
| 16:40.27 | zeldafan500 | irc.mugglenet.com sucks ass balls |
| 16:40.30 | mirak | pumpkin0: I am providing you that, wait a minute |
| 16:40.31 | zeldafan500 | wrong channel sry |
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| 16:40.43 | HS^ | Anyone knows why there isnt a Qt4-obdc package? |
| 16:40.47 | abrotman | RickEvans: at the end of that line .. add a "contrib non-free" |
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| 16:40.52 | xsdg | HS^: "odbc"? |
| 16:41.04 | abrotman | RickEvans: then run "aptitude update" and then "aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree" |
| 16:41.50 | HS^ | xsdg, yes |
| 16:41.54 | HS^ | excuse |
| 16:42.19 | xsdg | pumpkin0: the error was 100 hours before when that was posted, however |
| 16:42.24 | fundesktop | this is in my /etc/network/interfaces for my wlan... should it work with wlan-ng and what does it do?: http://rafb.net/p/58i04D61.html |
| 16:42.29 | RickEvans | abrotman: thanks. That's working. This is on one of those nifty OLPC machines... |
| 16:42.32 | pumpkin0 | xsdg: odbc = OpenDataBaseConnection. |
| 16:42.38 | xsdg | pumpkin0: (note that the listed time is 9017 hours) |
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| 16:42.43 | xsdg | pumpkin0: ... |
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| 16:42.53 | abrotman | RickEvans: they don't use debian .. or you installed debian on it? |
| 16:43.09 | xsdg | HS^: not sure, no |
| 16:43.17 | RickEvans | yeah. One of the core devs made a sweet tiny package for it. |
| 16:43.22 | FabioBR | Nyle: I didnt find anything about pata connector on manual |
| 16:43.36 | RickEvans | olpc-update debian |
| 16:43.39 | Asmooh | is there a tool in debian to convert plain text to md5? |
| 16:43.40 | pumpkin0 | FabioBR: what chipset ? |
| 16:43.46 | xsdg | Asmooh: md5sum |
| 16:43.50 | abrotman | RickEvans: uhm .. okay |
| 16:43.50 | RickEvans | makes etch a dual-boot option. |
| 16:43.51 | HS^ | xsdg, so how am i supposed to install odbc supprot |
| 16:43.54 | HS^ | support |
| 16:43.58 | xsdg | Asmooh: although, "convert" isn't the word you want |
| 16:44.16 | xsdg | HS^: dunno, though you could try googling for "qt4 odbc debian" |
| 16:44.24 | FabioBR | Nyle: intel |
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| 16:44.42 | abrotman | FabioBR: what's the board model again ? |
| 16:44.42 | pumpkin0 | FabioBR: intel makes 20 different chipset. which one ? |
| 16:44.56 | FabioBR | abrotman: P5K SE |
| 16:44.59 | Asmooh | xsdg, there isnt a md5sum in apt |
| 16:45.18 | xsdg | Asmooh: it should be installed already |
| 16:45.29 | fundesktop | Asmooh: textutils |
| 16:45.32 | FabioBR | pumpkin0: intel p35? |
| 16:45.42 | xsdg | (it's in the coreutils package, which is essential |
| 16:45.44 | xsdg | ) |
| 16:45.48 | pumpkin0 | FabioBR: OK, so is not the jmicron-problem. |
| 16:46.02 | HS^ | xsdg, yes did that. theres almost no relevant results |
| 16:46.15 | fundesktop | FabioBR: you have a P35 and have problems with PATA? |
| 16:46.16 | abrotman | http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=0&model=1705&modelmenu=1 |
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| 16:46.42 | FabioBR | fundesktop: The debian install doesnt detect my cdrom |
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| 16:47.05 | fundesktop | FabioBR: I have the same problem; you need at least a 2.6.23 kernel |
| 16:47.07 | abrotman | is there an lspci on the netinst? |
| 16:47.15 | abrotman | !kmuto |
| 16:47.15 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 16:47.18 | xsdg | HS^: dunno then; does the debian QT team have an irc channel/mailing list? |
| 16:47.29 | FabioBR | abrotman: I think this is the link for my motherboard (timeot when trying to load this page) |
| 16:47.36 | FabioBR | fundesktop: Ow... |
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| 16:47.42 | fundesktop | abrotman: also, kmuto didn't work with that chipset... I think it's because they don't load the pata_marvell module |
| 16:47.42 | FabioBR | And how can i install??? |
| 16:47.50 | fundesktop | FabioBR: no idea |
| 16:47.54 | mirak | xsdg pumpkin0 http://pastebin.com/m2fa41a49 |
| 16:48.04 | mirak | sorry for beeing slow |
| 16:48.07 | fundesktop | FabioBR: this issue bothered me a lot too |
| 16:48.11 | FabioBR | fundesktop: And if i load pata_marvell module??? |
| 16:48.13 | HS^ | xsdg, no idea |
| 16:48.17 | mirak | I have put all info I could found usefull |
| 16:49.00 | FabioBR | fundesktop: its strange... i have installed ubuntu 7.10 and the kernel is 2.6.22 (in the installation i think it was 2.6.18) |
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| 16:49.04 | fundesktop | FabioBR: I got away by booting the debian installer per CDROM, then switching to the console, and mount an USB stick containing an ISO per loopback at the mountpoint where the debian installer expected the cdrom |
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| 16:49.38 | FabioBR | fundesktop: how can i do this???!!! |
| 16:49.40 | fundesktop | FabioBR: might work with 2.6.22 too (it does "sometimes" [wtf?] for me) |
| 16:49.45 | Asmooh | xsdg, i dont want to convert an file to md5.. but an password |
| 16:49.49 | pumpkin0 | fundesktop: the problem is onle the PATA and installing from SATA works ? |
| 16:49.55 | stevendubois | When i rebooted my PC, my keyboard could control GRUB but when it gets to WDM. the keyboard does not work |
| 16:50.02 | fundesktop | pumpkin0: yes |
| 16:50.06 | Nyle | its probably a Jmicron JMB 363 pata controller |
| 16:50.12 | Nyle | but afaik it works in etch |
| 16:50.20 | pumpkin0 | fundesktop: thanks. I'm wiaing for one of those ... |
| 16:50.21 | Nyle | it should, because it does here |
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| 16:50.42 | fundesktop | Nyle: I've never seen anything about "jmicron", maybe it's a different chipset which also doesn't work |
| 16:51.02 | xsdg | mirak: my suggestions are: (1) make sure your cables are plugged in all the way, then (2) run a SMART self-test |
| 16:51.04 | mirak | pumpkin0 have you looked at it and found something weird ? |
| 16:51.07 | abrotman | fundesktop: it is .. but i don't think his has that |
| 16:51.18 | Nyle | hang on |
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| 16:51.27 | mirak | xsdg: ok. smartself test need to be ran with unmounted drive ? |
| 16:51.28 | pumpkin0 | mirak: nothing unusal in the partition table. But the smart-data looks like a lose cable or a dying disc. Do you have a backup ? |
| 16:51.31 | xsdg | mirak: anything other than that is blind guessing (and won't tell you if your drive is damaged, for example) |
| 16:51.35 | xsdg | mirak: an offline test, yes |
| 16:51.37 | pumpkin0 | mirak: no |
| 16:51.45 | FabioBR | people thnks for help, ill try again!!! |
| 16:51.52 | xsdg | mirak: you can run an online test with it mounted, but it might not be as in-depth as an offline test |
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| 16:52.33 | fundesktop | asking again: where is it documented what "wpa-"-entries in /etc/network/interfaces do? |
| 16:52.38 | mirak | pumpkin0: no backup, but that's a media center PC, no datas are sensitive |
| 16:53.09 | pumpkin0 | mirak: shutdown, open case, remove all cables, plug all cable back in and try again. |
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| 16:53.22 | mirak | pumpkin0: but I would rather not lose everything right now, I don't have backed up datas around here, they are at another place |
| 16:53.42 | Nyle | Marvell 88SE6111 unsupported (PATA + SATA On-the-Go) |
| 16:53.42 | mirak | pumpkin0: ok I will do that in a few minutes |
| 16:53.49 | xsdg | mirak: well, at this point, you should assume that your drive will die tomorrow :o) |
| 16:53.56 | valdyn | fundesktop: the references are in "man wireless" |
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| 16:54.17 | pumpkin0 | mirak: data w/o backup <=> unimportant data. |
| 16:54.30 | enouf | tell FabioBR try enabling AHCI in the BIOS |
| 16:54.31 | fundesktop | valdyn: I only see "wireless-"-prefixes there |
| 16:55.07 | xsdg | fundesktop: /usr/share/doc/wpa-supplicant/? |
| 16:55.20 | xsdg | fundesktop: sorry; no hyphen |
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| 16:56.59 | mirak | pumpkin0: datas I want to keep are stored at 300 km for here, so technically there is a backup, but not available tomorow for sure ^^ |
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| 16:58.08 | fundesktop | xsdg: thanks |
| 16:58.15 | xsdg | fundesktop: np |
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| 16:59.25 | logd | hi someone has 5 minutes of time to teach me how to setup a wireless lan (eventually from the beginning, wifi cards properly installed in both client and server) |
| 17:00.26 | fundesktop | logd: what? both client and server setup? |
| 17:00.57 | logd | <fundesktop>mean there are just 2 pc to link over wifi |
| 17:01.18 | fundesktop | I know a little about the client side |
| 17:01.21 | logd | i call machine1 server cause this will also share his internet connection |
| 17:01.36 | logd | the client has just to connect to machine1 and surf the web |
| 17:03.54 | fundesktop | logd: someone just pointed me to there, you help you too: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/ |
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| 17:04.34 | pumpkin0 | logd: you have no WLAN-AP ? |
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| 17:05.23 | mwnn | how do i install the gcc man page (i.e apt-get install what-pkg-name) |
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| 17:06.18 | Vasistha | mwnn: perhaps gcc-doc |
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| 17:07.50 | mwnn | Vasistha: executing "apt-get install gcc-doc" gives me the message "package gcc-doc is not available". |
| 17:08.11 | Ronin | isnt the gcc doc package not included? |
| 17:08.11 | Vasistha | mwnn: do you have contrib in your sources.list ? |
| 17:08.58 | ttz | hi there. |
| 17:09.00 | mwnn | Vasistha: I have added all the 3 DVDs to my sources.list file. I don't have anyother entries. |
| 17:09.27 | mwnn | Vasistha: I am hoping the doc file is present in one of the DVDs |
| 17:09.32 | Vasistha | mwnn: gosh, I have no idea whether the dvd's include contrib / non-free. Does this computer not have an internet connection? |
| 17:09.33 | ttz | I want to hack a source package; however it has a great number of build deps. Is there any way to automatically install them, or should I perform this manually? |
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| 17:09.44 | valdyn | ttz: apt-get build-dep <package> |
| 17:09.48 | logd | pumpkin0>no |
| 17:10.00 | ttz | valdyn: straightforward, thanks :) |
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| 17:10.40 | Vasistha | up that same alley ... I've already dont apt-get build-dep, and apt-get -b source, and now I have applied a patch of my own and just want to regenerate the .deb ... how do I do so? dpkg-buildpackage or something? |
| 17:10.45 | mwnn | Vasistha: It does. But my friend's comp does not have one. That is the reason i am trying to find the package on DVD. |
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| 17:10.54 | Vasistha | hehe, it looks like that worked :) |
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| 17:11.34 | kickback | is there a way to warn vsftpd users that they have reached there quota, is there some line that goes in the vsftpd.conf |
| 17:11.44 | kickback | their* |
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| 17:15.28 | logd | hi someone has 5 minutes of time to teach me how to setup a wireless lan (eventually from the beginning, wifi cards properly installed in both client and server) |
| 17:16.01 | abrotman | logd: is there a wifi router/ap there? |
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| 17:16.58 | wols_ | ...5 minutes of time... teach me how to setup a wireless lan ....from the beginning |
| 17:17.04 | wols_ | *the mind boggles* |
| 17:17.11 | kickback | abrotman, any ideas on vsftpd question |
| 17:17.35 | abrotman | kickback: not that i know of .. have you asked #vsftpd ? |
| 17:17.48 | wols_ | Vasistha: yes |
| 17:18.00 | wols_ | Vasistha: but apt-get -b source already built it |
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| 17:18.20 | kickback | abrotman, yeah, never get an answer in there, maybe everyone is on holidays :) |
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| 17:20.56 | smhar | greetings all |
| 17:21.21 | abrotman | kickback: google "warn quota vsftp" .. i got a few hits that seem relevant |
| 17:22.10 | kickback | abrotman, thanks |
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| 17:22.24 | Vasistha | wols_: are you implying that dpkg-buildpackage would not have worked if apt-get -b source had not already built it? |
| 17:22.35 | smhar | I want to have a basic debian installation from a virtual box with MySQL and PHP to run drupal for testing. what is a good harddisk size to designate for this system? |
| 17:22.52 | naudiz | Is there anyway to find a list of the most popular open source programming languages used in projects at sourceforge.net? |
| 17:23.32 | wols_ | Vasistha: the -b already built the package. next time: apt-get source stuff; dpkg-buildpackage |
| 17:23.43 | wols_ | -b is an option for "build" |
| 17:24.17 | wols_ | smhar: a gig is more than enough |
| 17:24.27 | wols_ | you could probably run it on less than 500 |
| 17:24.33 | abrotman | naudiz: there's a #sourceforge on irc.sourceforge.net ? |
| 17:24.37 | Vasistha | wols_: ahh, right. I just needed to rebuild to incorporate the patch that I had just written ... thanks! |
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| 17:25.07 | naudiz | abrotman Thanks because I tried asking on #sourceforge on this server and no one is here |
| 17:25.27 | stevendubois | Webmin doesnt work with my DNS, my keyboard works with GRUB, but when it gets to X it stops working and my laptop wireless isnt working |
| 17:25.32 | stevendubois | whoops |
| 17:25.40 | smhar | thanks wols_ , 1 gb is ok. I want to make a demo of drupal to a group where this is no net connection, so I thought of this. |
| 17:26.19 | stevendubois | When i rebooted my PC, my keyboard could control GRUB but when it gets to WDM. the keyboard does not work |
| 17:26.25 | Vasistha | mwnn: gosh, I'm looking around and ... not seeing much, but here and there I see something that seems to imply that the dvd's ought to include contrib packages. Worst comes to worst, you can always just download the deb for him directly :P |
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| 17:27.21 | stevendubois | this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m14a5dec7 |
| 17:27.50 | Vasistha | mwnn: I actually have some experience managing debian machines without internet connections; what I like to do is this: keep all packages that my internet machine downloads; then create a simple repository on that machine, which I can share with another by just giving it the hard drive |
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| 17:29.11 | fundesktop | fuck it |
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| 17:30.02 | fundesktop | anyone had an idea how a wlan driver suddenly can stop working, although the configuration and software versions are the same? |
| 17:30.06 | elmo40 | smhar: good hard disk size? I can find a 350Gb for $70... they are SO cheap now. Make the virtual box 40Gb. Have fun with it... and use PostgreSQL ;) |
| 17:30.20 | fundesktop | I've tried everything I could come up |
| 17:30.23 | grub | fundesktop, using ndiswrapper? |
| 17:30.32 | Zvpun | Can I convert a VCD to something more useful to save on my computer? What should I convert it to? |
| 17:30.42 | fundesktop | grub: no, with rt2x00, a wlan-ng driver... ndiswrapper still works |
| 17:30.49 | wols_ | smhar: a 700MB image is ok too to fit on a CD |
| 17:31.06 | fundesktop | grub: of course ndiswrapper will freeze my system from time to time... |
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| 17:32.27 | Vasistha | Zvpun: probably a good question for #mplayer ... you could convert to divx, but of course that's lossy, and vcd is also a lossy format |
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| 17:36.08 | elmo40 | Vasistha: so would he even 'lossy' anything? |
| 17:36.13 | elmo40 | :-\ |
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| 17:40.32 | smhar | elmo40, this is a notebook with 200gb total harddisk |
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| 17:46.05 | elmo40 | oh, ok. |
| 17:47.00 | stevendubois | When i rebooted my PC, my keyboard could control GRUB but when it gets to WDM. the keyboard does not work |
| 17:47.04 | stevendubois | this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m14a5dec7 |
| 17:47.15 | abrotman | does the keyboard work in console? |
| 17:47.29 | stevendubois | it works up until X starts |
| 17:47.45 | stevendubois | i tried kbd and keyboard as my driver |
| 17:47.49 | abrotman | did you check the X error log? |
| 17:47.54 | stevendubois | where is that? |
| 17:47.56 | stevendubois | /var/log? |
| 17:48.07 | Vasistha | stevendubois: ctrl-alt-f2 will should you back to a console ... see if that works? |
| 17:48.19 | Vasistha | should *bring* you... |
| 17:48.28 | stevendubois | Vasistha: it doesnt, im in X atm |
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| 17:49.00 | abrotman | Vasistha: he's stuck with no kbd in X .. how would he switch? :) |
| 17:49.26 | Vasistha | abrotman: well, who knows, maybe a few magic keys work :) I was thinking ctrl-alt-backspace would be an interesting one to test |
| 17:49.44 | mzanfardino | I've recently been asked what memory I have installed in my lappy. Is there a CLI command that will tell me information about my installed ram? |
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| 17:49.53 | stevendubois | i ran apt-get update yesterday |
| 17:50.00 | Vasistha | mzanfardino: well, there's top |
| 17:50.09 | abrotman | stevendubois: you could look at see what got updated |
| 17:50.09 | Vasistha | mzanfardino: or, you mean, what brand? |
| 17:50.14 | stevendubois | mzanfardino: free -m |
| 17:50.22 | abrotman | how about /proc/meminfo ? |
| 17:50.23 | stevendubois | abrotman: how? |
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| 17:50.33 | abrotman | stevendubois: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 17:50.39 | mzanfardino | top tells me how much (I know that). I'm looking to learn what my fsb is and type of ram, etc., without having to crack the case... |
| 17:50.48 | abrotman | !whats my hardware |
| 17:50.48 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! |
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| 17:51.33 | mzanfardino | thanks abrotman |
| 17:51.53 | fundesktop | is there a log about which packages where updated/installed/remove at which time? |
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| 17:52.14 | Vasistha | mzanfardino: another way you can find out is to visit the laptop manufacturer's web site and find the specs for your particular model number |
| 17:52.26 | stevendubois | abrotman: what should i be looking for? |
| 17:52.38 | abrotman | to see what got updated that might have affected your kbd |
| 17:53.03 | mzanfardino | Vasistha: yeah, true, but I kinda figued it was something I could get from the machine itself. |
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| 17:53.37 | Vasistha | mzanfardino: true! that factoid should give you most everything you need, I would expect |
| 17:54.22 | fundesktop | is there a log about which packages where updated/installed/remove at which time? |
| 17:54.31 | Vasistha | fundesktop: /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 17:54.52 | fundesktop | Vasistha: thanks |
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| 17:58.56 | Jargoyle | anyone using Dirvish in here? Is it really true that if there is a single change in a file during the backup process the whole backup is marked as corrupted? :D |
| 17:59.35 | abrotman | what do the docs say? |
| 18:00.08 | Jargoyle | well I've read this discussion list |
| 18:00.09 | Jargoyle | http://osdir.com/ml/sysutils.backup.dirvish.general/2006-11/msg00013.html |
| 18:00.23 | Jargoyle | during that list i got the idea that it is true |
| 18:00.42 | Jargoyle | basicly it makes it impossible for us to use the expire setting of dirvish on our system |
| 18:00.46 | Vasistha | !ping |
| 18:00.47 | dpkg | pong |
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| 18:03.51 | stevendubois | abrotman: could it have anything to do with the fact that i removed gnome yesterday? |
| 18:04.16 | abrotman | i have no idea .. possibly |
| 18:04.47 | stevendubois | and the debian forums are still down... |
| 18:04.55 | stevendubois | i might just reinstall debian |
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| 18:05.18 | PaulTT | Hi all, is there a way to force 100 MBs on an ethernet card? |
| 18:05.19 | Vasistha | stevendubois: did you ever pastebin your Xorg.0.log ? |
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| 18:05.38 | Vasistha | PaulTT: as opposed to 10 or 1000 ? |
| 18:05.40 | cizzi | is it safe to delete my /var/log/messages file? |
| 18:05.45 | cizzi | or should I rotate it |
| 18:05.48 | cizzi | manually |
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| 18:06.46 | PaulTT | Vasistha: yes |
| 18:06.47 | cizzi | I mean auth.log |
| 18:07.35 | PaulTT | also, how can I see which card listed in lspci is eth0 vs eth1 |
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| 18:07.50 | cusco | PaulTT: dmesg|grep -i eth |
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| 18:08.38 | stevendubois | Vasistha: http://pastebin.com/m33c1f3af |
| 18:08.47 | PaulTT | thanks cusco |
| 18:09.36 | cusco | np :) |
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| 18:13.22 | Vasistha | stevendubois: well, I can't say I see anything that looks fishy ... dunno what to tell ya. |
| 18:13.30 | fundesktop | what could be the cause that with ndiswrapper the wlan device finds an AP, but with a GPL driver it doesn't? |
| 18:13.37 | fundesktop | what can I do to find out? |
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| 18:24.18 | mfrisch | abrotman: Hi abrotman!! |
| 18:24.36 | mfrisch | stew: hi stew! |
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| 18:24.41 | abrotman | HI |
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| 18:25.05 | Cr3ature | ok this is starting to BE ENOUGH |
| 18:25.08 | elmo40 | i have a modules question. bcm43xx is listed in lsmod, but there is a '0' zero next to it. How do i 'turn it on' ? |
| 18:25.15 | mfrisch | abrotman: how's it hanging!?!? |
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| 18:25.47 | abrotman | mfrisch: inverted |
| 18:26.02 | Cr3ature | nvidia driv€rs for linux suck |
| 18:26.41 | mfrisch | abrotman: you know how to set up a ap through one eth?? do you set up the ath0 with a static ip and add a dhcpd server? |
| 18:26.45 | zinx | Cr3ature: you should try fglrx |
| 18:26.53 | zinx | Cr3ature: then you will see what sucks :P |
| 18:26.58 | cahoot | elmo40: isn't the wlan alive? |
| 18:27.00 | Cr3ature | it also sucks |
| 18:27.04 | Cr3ature | but not this µuch |
| 18:27.17 | abrotman | mfrisch: seems like a decent plan |
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| 18:27.21 | Cr3ature | th€ nvidia hits 100% CPU €v€ry day |
| 18:27.27 | abrotman | sucks! |
| 18:27.27 | Cr3ature | i hav€ to r€start X €v€ry day |
| 18:27.37 | zinx | Cr3ature: you need to get your e / m keys fixed |
| 18:27.59 | Cr3ature | i tri€d |
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| 18:28.03 | zinx | Cr3ature: also note that micro ('µ') is generally abbreviated as 'u' rather than 'm' |
| 18:28.05 | Cr3ature | do€sn't s€€µ to work |
| 18:28.27 | elmo40 | cahoot: alive? |
| 18:28.34 | mfrisch | abrotman: uhm do I add a wlanconfig line to rc.local ? |
| 18:28.42 | abrotman | you can |
| 18:28.54 | Cr3ature | dunno why this also happ€nds |
| 18:29.00 | mfrisch | abrotman: it is not persistent through reboots right? |
| 18:29.09 | abrotman | "it" is? |
| 18:29.16 | cahoot | elmo40: iwconfig - shows the device? |
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| 18:29.25 | mfrisch | abrotman: ok THANKS. |
| 18:29.25 | elmo40 | i cant ifup my wifi. how do i make the '0' a '1' ? It is in the /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/kernel/net/wireless/bcm43xx/ directory. |
| 18:29.30 | abrotman | mfrisch: okay then |
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| 18:30.06 | elmo40 | cahoot: it is listed, yet. |
| 18:30.08 | elmo40 | *yes |
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| 18:31.34 | elmo40 | but it doesn aquire any networks. wont connect to anything. |
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| 18:32.46 | mfrisch | how do you full size a window with keys in kde? |
| 18:33.04 | elmo40 | f12 ? |
| 18:33.24 | alvarezp | elmo40, make sure you get the correct authentication and encryption mechanism. |
| 18:33.29 | mfrisch | nope ;-( |
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| 18:34.35 | plb_ | hrm there are no 4.0r2 netinstall cds? |
| 18:35.05 | kamathln | hi please check out http://pastebin.com/d30e4536f. I was doing "apt-get --ignore-hold -f dist-upgrade " |
| 18:35.51 | kamathln | should i report bug against debianutils or passwd ? |
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| 18:36.54 | mfrisch | did they stop the netbsd port? |
| 18:37.53 | xsdg | kamathln: what branch are you running? |
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| 18:38.47 | jelly-home | mfrisch: dunno about kde, but in xfce it's F11 or (to force "fullscreen") alt-f11 |
| 18:39.00 | mfrisch | trying to do a dpkg-reconfigure of xorg and it is complaning that I customized it ( I didn't) and won't create a new one. Is there a fix? |
| 18:39.43 | mfrisch | jelly-home: nope I am mouseless and it sucks...will look it up. |
| 18:40.11 | jelly-home | I'd hug my trackpoint if it was possible. |
| 18:40.39 | mfrisch | but why won't xorg reconfigure?? |
| 18:41.32 | abrotman | you borked it |
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| 18:42.26 | xsdg | mfrisch: it's saying that you poked at xorg.conf, thereby changing the md5 hash from the original -- it doesn't want to overwrite your customizations |
| 18:42.42 | xsdg | mfrisch: I forget exactly how to get around this; one sec |
| 18:42.54 | simonrvn | !xmd5 |
| 18:42.54 | dpkg | If you edit your X conffile, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work. Run "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 18:43.07 | mfrisch | abrotman: thanks xsdg figured it is a clean sid install. |
| 18:43.11 | DJ-Marcus | stupid question, but i don't know the stupid answer: whats the latest kernel for debian stable? |
| 18:43.13 | simonrvn | file names differ, but same solution |
| 18:43.21 | xsdg | simonrvn: thanks |
| 18:43.38 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 18:43.53 | zwerg | Hi. |
| 18:44.13 | zwerg | Since my upgrade to 2.6.23 I'm not able to mount usb-devices. Is that a known issue? |
| 18:44.33 | abrotman | !bts |
| 18:44.33 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of sid and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for sid and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges . |
| 18:44.40 | simonrvn | 2.6.24-rc6-acahkos-1 |
| 18:45.08 | simonrvn | works here ;). you sure you have sd-mod or scsi support built in? |
| 18:45.33 | simonrvn | modprobe sd-mod |
| 18:45.48 | aindilis | Are there any tools that monitor security advisories and prompt the user with the question of whether to update the affect packages? |
| 18:46.25 | xsdg | dpkg: no, xmd5 is If you edit your X conffile, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will no longer work. Run "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum -" -- if hte files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, run "md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 18:46.26 | dpkg | xsdg: okay |
| 18:46.40 | zwerg | simonrvn, scsi-mod |
| 18:46.47 | zwerg | Worked so far. |
| 18:46.54 | aindilis | Because if not I will complete mine. |
| 18:47.01 | xsdg | can someone double-check the update to make sure I didn't mess anything up? (yes, the new path _does_ include "xfree86") |
| 18:47.26 | aindilis | It monitors email and verifies the signed message before extracting the info and prompting the user. I don't know the best way to prompt the user. |
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| 18:47.50 | abrotman | xsdg: shouldn't be needed anymore |
| 18:48.12 | xsdg | abrotman: why not? |
| 18:48.29 | xsdg | (grr, it looks like they actually did change the path, from xfree86 to x11) |
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| 18:48.42 | abrotman | xsdg: i don't recall all the details .. but we looked at a bunch of crap .. seems to not be needed .. but whatever |
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| 18:49.23 | simonrvn | no, sd-mod |
| 18:49.29 | simonrvn | sd_mod 29456 0 |
| 18:49.38 | xsdg | abrotman: well, mfrisch just ran into it (see above) |
| 18:50.07 | abrotman | xsdg: yeah ... i'm just saying what we thought was right |
| 18:50.11 | chris____ | hello. how can i batch convert html -> png with a given horizontal/vertical resolution? i have checked apt-cache search png but nothing directly useful turned up. |
| 18:50.27 | abrotman | you want to convert html to png ? |
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| 18:50.50 | xsdg | chris____: you want to take screenshots? what do you mean? |
| 18:51.17 | mfrisch | j |
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| 18:51.24 | zwerg | simonrvn, loaded it, still no improvement. |
| 18:51.40 | simonrvn | zwerg: using udev? |
| 18:51.50 | zwerg | Yep. |
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| 18:52.05 | xsdg | mfrisch: I made a mistake in my correction; the proper path is /var/lib/x11/... |
| 18:52.07 | simonrvn | try running udevtrigger (as root/sudo) |
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| 18:52.46 | zwerg | Nope. |
| 18:53.04 | simonrvn | zwerg: oh, and is usb-storage and the appropriate *hci-hcd modules loaded too? |
| 18:53.19 | simonrvn | nothing in dmesg? |
| 18:53.48 | zwerg | dmesg says something about ncc when running udevtrigger. |
| 18:54.02 | chris____ | xsdg, abrotman: i have external data in html files ("flashcards"). Now i want to use them in a flashcard program, http://mnemosyne-proj.sourceforge.net/faq.php . by using special tags (analogous to the latex example in the faq) and minor modification of the source code of the flash card program i want to call an external wrapper or program, which converts html to png. |
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| 18:54.16 | zwerg | uhci-hcd did it :/ |
| 18:54.18 | simonrvn | should say something like this when the box "sees" it: |
| 18:54.24 | zwerg | Thought it was loaded. |
| 18:54.28 | mfrisch | xsdg: ok but the xorg is null zero size all of them |
| 18:54.33 | zwerg | Sorry, and thanks a lot :) |
| 18:54.47 | simonrvn | ah ha, ok :) |
| 18:54.56 | xsdg | mfrisch: "" still has an md5 hash |
| 18:55.07 | simonrvn | won't bother putting that then ;) |
| 18:55.10 | mfrisch | xsdg: so both commands? |
| 18:55.23 | xsdg | mfrisch: well, you don't have to diff, but you do need to md5sum > ... |
| 18:55.46 | mfrisch | xsdg: so the second one. |
| 18:55.48 | simonrvn | zwerg: now echo that module to /etc/modules ;) (use >> of course, you don't want to wipe out your file)) |
| 18:56.15 | xsdg | chris____: what do you mean by "convert html to png"? that's like converting the source of an opengl program to a screenshot |
| 18:56.45 | simonrvn | xsdg: screenshot the page in $editor ;p |
| 18:56.46 | Gnurdux | also svg would probably be more suitable |
| 18:56.48 | xsdg | chris____: you have to render the HTML first, which requires something akin to a webbrowser |
| 18:57.02 | xsdg | simonrvn: exactly; you can make a screenshot of HTML in an editor as well. It won't be useful, though |
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| 18:57.12 | simonrvn | nope =) |
| 18:57.42 | simonrvn | gimp does "colorhtml" butit's one way only IIRC |
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| 18:58.24 | chris____ | xsdg: would that be something like a wrapper of: start firefox (ff), print to file, close ff, ps2png f.e.? how could i give it horiz and vertic limits? |
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| 18:58.48 | theunixgeek | Which is more advanced: Fedora or Debian? I'm trying to find a more advanced distro. |
| 18:58.50 | mfrisch | xsdg: still nothing and it is /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5 on my system |
| 18:59.21 | simonrvn | theunixgeek: define "advanced" |
| 18:59.22 | abrotman | theunixgeek: try them both ..decide for yourself |
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| 19:00.21 | xsdg | chris____: that would be one way; you could also take a screenshot when firefox is running (using, for example, the `import` command from imagemagick) |
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| 19:00.52 | xsdg | mfrisch: what happens when you try to reconfigure? |
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| 19:01.41 | mfrisch | xsdg: uhm craps out before monitor setup and gives a postinst error saying it may be customized |
| 19:02.25 | xsdg | mfrisch: hmm... my next guess is to `rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf` and then try a reinstall of xserver-xorg |
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| 19:04.12 | simonrvn | abrotman: well that was productive (re: theunixgeek) |
| 19:04.23 | abrotman | simonrvn: easy solution! :) |
| 19:04.34 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 19:04.50 | dererk | lol |
| 19:05.09 | mfrisch | xsdg: uhm no xorg now ;-( |
| 19:05.27 | simonrvn | /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 19:05.41 | xsdg | mfrisch: hmm? |
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| 19:07.00 | mfrisch | xsdg: did reinstall and no xorg.conf now (deleted it before reistall) |
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| 19:07.19 | MrRoland | hi, anybody knows any good tutorial about protecting to SYN attacks? I mean I got ddosed with some kind of spoof tech, I saw like 15 000 ip's hitting and im guessing it's a spoof method |
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| 19:07.32 | simonrvn | mfrisch: ^^^ |
| 19:08.12 | xsdg | MrRoland: you should probably start by talking to your ISP |
| 19:08.21 | simonrvn | aptitude -o ".... reinstall foo |
| 19:08.34 | simonrvn | er, insert a " in there |
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| 19:09.05 | xsdg | simonrvn: bash: apti"tude: command not found |
| 19:09.17 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 19:09.31 | shamrock | I am trying, through synaptic to install the beagle extension for iceweasel, but I get this "Depends: beagle (>=0.3.2-1) but 0.2.12-1+b1 is to be installed". What does this mean and what should I do? |
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| 19:10.02 | abrotman | shamrock: which version of debian ? |
| 19:10.07 | shamrock | lenny. |
| 19:10.17 | abrotman | and wat's the package you're actually trying to install ? |
| 19:10.28 | shamrock | iceweasel-beagle |
| 19:10.45 | abrotman | iceweasel-beagle is only in sid |
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| 19:11.58 | shamrock | sid being stable? or unstable? |
| 19:12.21 | xsdg | shamrock: sid is unstable |
| 19:12.28 | xsdg | shamrock: sid is always unstable |
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| 19:12.45 | shamrock | I had pinning set up. So I should maybe remove "unstable" from my repositories? I had to have it there for a different kernel. |
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| 19:13.01 | Nyle | oh boy |
| 19:13.11 | shamrock | Nyle: ? sorry ? |
| 19:13.42 | ybeddyj | how do i find out the correct version of xorg? |
| 19:13.53 | real0ne | why terminal say me commabnd not found when i |
| 19:13.54 | real0ne | bcm43xx-fwcutt |
| 19:13.54 | real0ne | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.07 | xsdg | ybeddyj: what do you mean by "correct"? |
| 19:14.15 | xsdg | ybeddyj: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg should help |
| 19:14.26 | Nyle | what do you mean by version? |
| 19:14.35 | mfrisch | simonrvn: same no xorg.conf |
| 19:14.46 | xsdg | mfrisch: what if you just run dexconf? |
| 19:15.01 | shamrock | Nyle: what do you think he means by version? |
| 19:15.04 | mfrisch | xsdg: will try |
| 19:15.05 | ybeddyj | trying to install ati drivers it complianing about x |
| 19:15.16 | Nyle | shamrock: "what are cows?" |
| 19:15.37 | Nyle | ybeddyj: you are trying to install fglrx? which debian release? |
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| 19:15.57 | ybeddyj | holdon let me check |
| 19:16.06 | mfrisch | xsdg: uhm ran dexconf just returned to prompt.. reconfig then? |
| 19:16.18 | mfrisch | xsdg: still no xorg.conf |
| 19:16.26 | shamrock | Nyle: Are you one of those who are more of an impediment to help rather than actually being here to help? Your comments make no sense. |
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| 19:17.16 | xsdg | mfrisch: one sec |
| 19:17.19 | pobega | Does anyone have any idea how to make spamassassin quiet? I keep seeing verbose error messages when my getmail daemon is running. |
| 19:17.31 | xingu | mfrisch: sid's dexconf is busted, tripped over this yesterday |
| 19:17.33 | xsdg | mfrisch: Xorg -configure |
| 19:17.47 | Nyle | ybeddyj: /msg dpkg fglrx |
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| 19:18.01 | Nyle | ybeddyj: you shouldn't have to worry about which version of xorg you have |
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| 19:18.18 | xingu | mfrisch: /usr/bin/dexconf: comment the two lines starting "db_get xserver-$SERVER/config/display/modes |
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| 19:18.36 | PaulTT | does anyone know of a package that will test the network speed connection between two machines? |
| 19:18.42 | xingu | mfrisch: then just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 19:19.06 | mfrisch | xsdg: was just did not want to will be back then will run md5 and should work eh? |
| 19:19.20 | xsdg | mfrisch: that made absolutely no sense :o) |
| 19:19.20 | acu | what is the latest kernel is used for Lenny ? |
| 19:19.25 | abrotman | .22 |
| 19:19.40 | cizzi | anyone know if its possible to use net-acct with users who login via ssh and keep track by user and not by ip? |
| 19:19.56 | xsdg | PaulTT: if you have root, you can built the kernel's network traffic generator |
| 19:20.09 | real0ne | bcm43xx-fwcutt any one know this command |
| 19:20.18 | Nyle | real0ne: cutter |
| 19:20.21 | Nyle | not cutt |
| 19:20.32 | PaulTT | xsdg: That sounds like it generates traffic, I just want to get a benchmark |
| 19:20.57 | xsdg | PaulTT: how do you benchmark without traffic? |
| 19:21.07 | xsdg | PaulTT: the traffic generator reports statistics |
| 19:21.07 | xingu | PaulTT: netperf |
| 19:21.23 | Nyle | real0ne: bcm43xx-fwcutter, run it as root... you shouldn't have to do that btw because i think the debian package fetches from somewhere on the internet (for which the link was once broken a few weeks ago) and installs it |
| 19:22.13 | PaulTT | xingu, thanks I'll give that a try |
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| 19:22.43 | real0ne | i have do it |
| 19:22.51 | real0ne | but always "comand not found" |
| 19:23.17 | mfrisch | xsdg: dpkg-reconfigure will complain if there is no md5 right? ;-) |
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| 19:23.46 | Nyle | real0ne: are you doing it as root? |
| 19:23.55 | real0ne | yes |
| 19:23.58 | real0ne | i'm root |
| 19:24.05 | xsdg | mfrisch: just run dexconf (if xingu's suggestion fixed it) |
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| 19:24.22 | Nyle | real0ne: when you install the bcm43xx-fwcutter package, it downloads the firmware file off the web somewhere and installs it.. why you are messing with this manually ? |
| 19:24.36 | mfrisch | didn't complains about some line 314 |
| 19:24.38 | mfrisch | xfree |
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| 19:24.47 | mfrisch | variable |
| 19:25.13 | real0ne | yes |
| 19:25.30 | real0ne | also i have donwsload one driver |
| 19:25.33 | dvs | Nyle: because the MD5 sum does not match the current fwcutter package on the web. |
| 19:25.39 | real0ne | and i want to install it |
| 19:25.46 | Nyle | ahh |
| 19:25.48 | Nyle | hm |
| 19:25.52 | Nyle | look at /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh |
| 19:26.11 | Nyle | I can't remember if i modified it myself or if it came like that |
| 19:26.20 | Nyle | http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o |
| 19:26.26 | Nyle | but here is the source I have in the script |
| 19:26.36 | Nyle | it didn't cause a problem here while installing |
| 19:26.44 | mfrisch | xsdg: will figure it out THANKS!!! |
| 19:26.46 | xingu | mfrisch: as I said, dexconf in sid is buggy; xserver-xorg no longer has a config/display/modes property in debconf (in fact, the postinst for it removes that property) |
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| 19:26.56 | chris____ | xsdg: thanks, problem solved with html2ps |
| 19:27.14 | Nyle | xingu: really |
| 19:27.20 | xingu | Nyle: yup. |
| 19:27.22 | xsdg | chris____: np |
| 19:27.54 | real0ne | Nyle |
| 19:27.59 | Nyle | thats me |
| 19:28.02 | real0ne | i have donwload that |
| 19:28.16 | real0ne | but when i write the command to install it |
| 19:28.20 | real0ne | terminal say |
| 19:28.21 | Nyle | well my friend /usr/bin/bcm43xx-fwcutter is the binary |
| 19:28.30 | real0ne | ok |
| 19:28.31 | subopt | I've got both Python2.4 and Python2.5 installed on Etch. What do i need to do to make v2.5 the default? (I'm fine with removing v2.4.) |
| 19:28.32 | real0ne | w8 plz |
| 19:28.38 | Nyle | ok |
| 19:28.40 | abrotman | !wud |
| 19:28.40 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 19:29.03 | azeem | s/ask/usk/ |
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| 19:29.11 | dvs | uh oh, the grammer police. |
| 19:29.25 | kdubois | how do set the 'bootable' flag on a usb disk? |
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| 19:29.46 | xsdg | kdubois: fdisk |
| 19:29.47 | Hoxzer | aargh, it takes long to compile debian with oldconfig |
| 19:29.51 | xsdg | kdubois: just like any other drive |
| 19:29.55 | azeem | kdubois: I don't think the bootable flag matters much nowadays |
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| 19:30.15 | xsdg | azeem: I believe it does, though I might be wrong |
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| 19:31.22 | kdubois | its the only thing i can think of why i can't boot from this usb here |
| 19:31.36 | real0ne | Nyle |
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| 19:32.43 | lindenle | Hi trying to install from usb stick and nothing happens but MBR FA is on screen. |
| 19:32.54 | real0ne | Nyle |
| 19:33.06 | abrotman | just freaking talk |
| 19:33.08 | lindenle | nm I figured it out |
| 19:33.09 | Nyle | hi |
| 19:33.10 | lindenle | RTFM |
| 19:33.16 | stevendubois | !remove gnome |
| 19:33.16 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about <install gnome>), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 19:33.37 | real0ne | Nyle i musste install sme package? |
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| 19:34.05 | Nyle | real0ne: just out of curiosity, you HAVE installed the bcm43xx-fwcutter package? |
| 19:34.15 | real0ne | befor run bcm43xx-fwcutter |
| 19:34.21 | real0ne | no |
| 19:34.25 | Nyle | lol |
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| 19:34.28 | real0ne | ok |
| 19:34.36 | Nyle | well then how can you run the command if you didn't install the package ;) |
| 19:35.04 | Nyle | if you don't have /usr/bin/bcm43xx-fwcutter then apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter |
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| 19:36.05 | real0ne | there are no package |
| 19:36.16 | azeem | maybe you need to enable non-free |
| 19:36.23 | robin_sz | there is no spoon |
| 19:36.26 | Nyle | Filename: pool/contrib/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_006-3_i386.deb |
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| 19:36.31 | Nyle | add contrib |
| 19:36.41 | Nyle | !tell real0ne -about contrib |
| 19:37.37 | Nyle | hm |
| 19:37.47 | simonrvn | mh |
| 19:37.50 | Nyle | hi |
| 19:38.17 | simonrvn | hello |
| 19:38.25 | robin_sz | hello |
| 19:38.26 | Nyle | happy holidays man |
| 19:38.46 | simonrvn | you too |
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| 19:39.14 | stevendubois | i have my resolution set at 1280x1024 and the refresh can only be at 87hz. how can i change the refresh rate so it doesnt look like hortizontal lines all over my screen? |
| 19:39.34 | Nyle | stevendubois: xorg.fonc |
| 19:39.38 | Nyle | stevendubois: in xorg.conf |
| 19:40.03 | Nyle | stevendubois: you can specify like "1280x1024@85" |
| 19:40.11 | Nyle | @blahHz |
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| 19:40.40 | Nyle | stevendubois: maybe you should make sure that xorg is reading the correct modes from the monitor |
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| 19:41.53 | drwahl | what do i use from command line to unpack a .gz ? |
| 19:42.10 | azeem | drwahl: gunzip |
| 19:42.15 | Nyle | gunzup |
| 19:42.18 | Nyle | lol |
| 19:42.18 | drwahl | thanks |
| 19:42.21 | Nyle | gunzip |
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| 19:44.41 | Gigantic | omeway to propperly stop a klamav scan? -.- |
| 19:45.19 | zinx | kill? |
| 19:45.24 | zinx | ^C? |
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| 19:46.16 | Gigantic | I mean not killing it |
| 19:46.46 | zinx | SIGSTOP/SIGCONT? |
| 19:46.57 | Gigantic | :p |
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| 19:48.44 | ladydoor | Hi...hopefully a quick question. So in the process of installing LFS (that part's irrelevant) one of the steps is to bind /dev to the LFS partition's /dev prior to chrooting. However, I accidentally entered `mount -v --bind /dev $LFS/dev' prior to having set $LFS, causing it to just bind to /dev...and now, when I try to open a terminal or GNU screen window, I get the error "No more PTYs," and I'm pretty sure this accidental binding is |
| 19:48.44 | ladydoor | the problem; umount alone (or with the -f parameter) doesn't seem to do the trick, either, since the "device or resource" is "busy." Any ideas on how to fix this aside from rebooting? |
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| 19:50.14 | futex | http://www.4girlsfingerpaint.com/ |
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| 19:51.57 | Gigantic | wish I could ban -.- |
| 19:52.00 | Nyle | simonrvn: I feel a jam comin' on |
| 19:52.07 | mirak | xsdg: I ran a long test with smartctl and there are no errors |
| 19:52.35 | Nyle | ladydoor: why are you asking here |
| 19:52.35 | Nyle | ? |
| 19:52.59 | ladydoor | Nyle: Because the problem isn't in the LFS chroot, but in the host Debian system (well, really it's due to human error). |
| 19:53.17 | ladydoor | Nyle: But regardless, the problem *manifests* in the host system. |
| 19:53.24 | Nyle | hmm it actually might |
| 19:53.30 | ronsonol | Good or Bad Idea to have a common /home partition on a system dual-booting Debian and Ubuntu? |
| 19:53.32 | Nyle | no wait |
| 19:53.37 | Nyle | i see what you did |
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| 19:54.00 | The_Dr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:54.05 | azeem | ronsonol: if you use gnome, it mostly depends on how different the gnome versions are |
| 19:54.09 | Ronin | futex: what is the point of doing that here? |
| 19:54.13 | Nyle | Filename: pool/contrib/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_006-3_i386.deb |
| 19:54.19 | azeem | too big a difference could be annoying WRT the configs |
| 19:54.23 | Nyle | goddman it mouse man |
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| 19:54.25 | real0ne | Nyle can u send me plz your sources.list |
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| 19:54.35 | Nyle | !sources.list |
| 19:54.35 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "apt-get update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 19:54.44 | azeem | !contrib |
| 19:54.44 | dpkg | well, contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free). To get packages in contrib, add lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free> |
| 19:55.00 | Nyle | real0ne: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org etch main contrib non-free |
| 19:55.01 | stevendubois | is anyone else getting a error on pastebin.com? |
| 19:55.24 | Ronin | stevendubois: try .ca |
| 19:55.33 | Nyle | real0ne: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free |
| 19:55.38 | Nyle | oops |
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| 19:56.29 | real0ne | thansk |
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| 19:57.37 | Nyle | ladydoor: no idea |
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| 19:59.33 | Tramp | ladydoor: you could try umount -a |
| 20:00.12 | Nyle | Tramp: i thought he can't get to a term |
| 20:00.26 | Hoxzer | aargh, has somebody here succesfully build ipp2p to 2.6.22-* kernel ? |
| 20:00.35 | ladydoor | Nyle: She. And I do already have a term open, but I'm trying to create a window in a screen session. |
| 20:00.39 | Tramp | Nyle: well, I thought he had at least one open from before the blunder 8) |
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| 20:00.49 | Nyle | Tramp: oh yeah |
| 20:00.55 | Whisper | A guide to get vncserver running from ssh? |
| 20:00.56 | Nyle | ok that was a brainfart |
| 20:00.59 | Nyle | excuse me |
| 20:01.09 | Tramp | ladydoor: or umount -t none /dev - so maybe it gets to the bind-mounted one. Just an idea |
| 20:01.34 | bolt | lady door? ... |
| 20:01.39 | ladydoor | Tramp: That last one did it! Thank you! |
| 20:01.50 | Nyle | dont... |
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| 20:01.55 | Tramp | ladydoor: really - was just a wild guess .... |
| 20:01.57 | bolt | greetings from baron table... |
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| 20:02.31 | ladydoor | Nyle: Thanks |
| 20:02.43 | ladydoor | Tramp: Thanks nonetheless. |
| 20:02.50 | Tramp | np |
| 20:02.55 | Nyle | pon |
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| 20:05.17 | Whisper | A guide to get vncserver running from ssh? |
| 20:05.30 | Whisper | need it to run vmare |
| 20:05.31 | Whisper | vmware |
| 20:05.56 | Nyle | Whisper: vmware is an X application and maybe can be displayed over ssh -X ? |
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| 20:06.10 | PriceChild | !ops DoGan is a spammer on join |
| 20:06.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: pricechild complains about: DoGan is a spammer on join |
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| 20:06.20 | Nyle | Whisper: for vnc you just run vncserver and it will run in the background I think, so that when ssh session is ended, it won't die |
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| 20:06.36 | cizzi | would a patch for a 2.4.6 kernel work on my kernel of 2.6.18? |
| 20:06.37 | Nyle | I could be wrong though because I don't quite fully remember the thingamig |
| 20:06.40 | cizzi | or could it mess things up? |
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| 20:06.57 | Nyle | cizzi: whats the patch for? |
| 20:07.05 | cizzi | ip accounting (user) |
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| 20:07.08 | Whisper | Nyle what is that? |
| 20:07.22 | Nyle | Whisper: what is vncserver? |
| 20:07.31 | Nyle | Whisper: ssh -X? |
| 20:07.44 | Whisper | SSH -> |
| 20:07.45 | Whisper | X |
| 20:07.49 | Nyle | !sshx |
| 20:07.49 | dpkg | i guess sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the remote server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither <xhost>, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html, or try http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html |
| 20:08.12 | Whisper | thing is that i got vnc4server running and i can connect but i dosent get any picture |
| 20:08.19 | Whisper | like its connecting to nothing |
| 20:08.37 | cizzi | nyle - could I try it on a test system first? |
| 20:08.49 | Whisper | does ssh -X work with putty/win? |
| 20:08.53 | Nyle | cizzi: should you really be asking this? |
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| 20:09.06 | Nyle | cizzi: you can try it, but it will probably fail |
| 20:09.17 | cizzi | thanks |
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| 20:10.05 | Nyle | cizzi: if the code to be patched is diff then you might need to manually patch it, looking at what was changed and etc. (code editing) |
| 20:10.31 | ronsonol | Did a custom install of Debian intended for a lightweight machine, then went to install Ubuntulite on another partition, just to see how it would do. I discover, however, the "alternate install" iso offered on http;//ubuntulite.tuxfamily.org yields what appears no different than standard Ubuntu (!) |
| 20:11.01 | cizzi | nyle - could I obtain the kernel version for which the patch was intended for? |
| 20:11.07 | Nyle | ronsonol: ok... |
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| 20:11.38 | Nyle | cizzi: sure, get the source for the older kernel from somewhere on the internet, patch it, make a config, compile it, use it |
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| 20:12.05 | Nyle | you didn't hear me say that |
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| 20:12.21 | cizzi | but any upgrades to the kernel from that point on would overwrite it |
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| 20:12.38 | Nyle | what does the patch do? |
| 20:12.57 | cizzi | it tracks how many bytes each user uses |
| 20:13.05 | cizzi | to set monthly bandwidth quotas |
| 20:13.06 | cizzi | on users |
| 20:13.08 | Nyle | cizzi: I'm not really an expert on kernels so |
| 20:13.27 | Nyle | cizzi: ahh i see, im sure there are other ways of doing this in debian stable or whatever you are using |
| 20:13.29 | ronsonol | Nyle, so Ubuntu needs removed. The system hasn't seen use. Is there a more efficient way to blow away Ubuntu and grub references than to start over with the Debian install? |
| 20:13.36 | cizzi | nyle - if there is i'd like to know |
| 20:13.38 | Nyle | i don't know of it, but it probably is possible |
| 20:14.01 | cizzi | its done at the kernel level |
| 20:14.12 | Nyle | ronsonol: do you have debian and ubuntu dual booted? |
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| 20:14.22 | ronsonol | Nyle, yeah. |
| 20:14.44 | Nyle | ronsonol: boot debian, kill ubuntu partition, modify /boot/grub/menu.lst and delete ubuntu entries |
| 20:14.47 | Nyle | clean and simple |
| 20:14.51 | schemelab | hello, under Debian/Etch stable, I would like to install a latex distro... any suggests? |
| 20:15.17 | schemelab | texlive looks like what I need... |
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| 20:16.58 | robin_sz | anyone any clues how to emulate a com port in Linux? |
| 20:17.02 | ronsonol | Nyle, would /boot/grub/menu.lst on the Debian side even know about Ubuntu, since it was installed first? If so, is there a way to just recommit the Debian side's perspective on grub? |
| 20:17.26 | Nyle | ronsonol: oh when you installed ubuntu did you install grub to mbr? |
| 20:17.45 | Nyle | ronsonol: no problem, while booted into debian, do grub-install /dev/blah |
| 20:18.12 | ronsonol | Nyle, /dev/blah? |
| 20:18.19 | Nyle | blah being your device |
| 20:18.23 | Nyle | like /dev/hda |
| 20:18.27 | Nyle | etc. etc. |
| 20:18.29 | Nyle | !install grub |
| 20:18.29 | dpkg | apt-get install grub; zless /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz; IGNORE everything in the man pages and the info pages for now. |
| 20:18.41 | Nyle | ok nm the factoid |
| 20:18.48 | ronsonol | Oh. |
| 20:19.30 | Nyle | ronsonol: do you understand what you need to do? |
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| 20:20.49 | ronsonol | To get more spectific about what I did, I installed grub to mbr when I installed Debian. When I installed Ubuntu, it recognized Debian was there, so I reinstalled grub to mbr, now with Ubuntu in the menu. |
| 20:21.05 | Nyle | ok |
| 20:21.08 | Nyle | follow this |
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| 20:22.01 | Nyle | boot into debian. do grub-install /dev/hda(or whatever), it should update-grub automatically, then its your choice |
| 20:22.06 | Nyle | kill or don't kill the ubuntu partition |
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| 20:22.34 | deepfreez | ! prism54 |
| 20:22.34 | dpkg | methinks prism54 is http://prism54.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=1043 or check #prism54 on freenode |
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| 20:23.44 | ronsonol | Nyle, Simple enough then. |
| 20:23.50 | Nyle | yup |
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| 20:36.37 | xingu | what, I ask, is the point of a faked vesa bios advertising a mode that the faked video hardware can't actually handle? |
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| 20:38.19 | screamingbytes | mornin all |
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| 20:39.04 | elenril | why isn't avidemux in debian? |
| 20:39.06 | OBcecado | hello, which package should i look to get ntfsck ? i tried ntfsprogs, but it seems to be missing, i'm running unstable |
| 20:39.23 | abrotman | !find bin/ntfsck |
| 20:39.32 | elmo40 | !bcm43xx |
| 20:39.32 | dpkg | bcm43xx is a driver for Broadcom's wireless chipsets (http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/) included in kernels since 2.6.17-rc2, "modprobe bcm43xx" in Etch. Firmware required to be loaded before operation, ask me about <bcm43xx-fwcutter>. Replaced with <b43legacy> in kernels 2.6.24 and later. USB devices are not supported. |
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| 20:40.22 | elmo40 | what firmware do i use? :/ I use 2.6.23-9, so bcm43xx-fwcutter ? |
| 20:40.43 | matkix | I'm having an issue with Debian and my Nic card. I have installed everything and then added the nic card later. How do I get it to pickup / install my nic carD? |
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| 20:41.30 | OBcecado | well, better compile that myself, it seems to be nowhere |
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| 20:42.42 | elmo40 | matkix: does lspci display it? If so, does ifconfig show it as a eth# ? If so, do ifup eth#. If that works, then you can edit your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:43.05 | matkix | How do I tell if Ispci displays it, just type that command in? |
| 20:43.16 | elmo40 | in a terminal, yes |
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| 20:44.21 | matkix | Its in lspci but not ifconfig |
| 20:44.36 | erpo | I just patched a bug in a program. Which way is the "right" way: diff oldfile newfile > myfix.patch OR diff newfile oldfile > myfix.patch ? Or does it make a difference? |
| 20:45.17 | matkix | elmo40: Yean I can see the device in lspci but not showing in ifconfig |
| 20:46.00 | elmo40 | try: ifconfig -a |
| 20:46.21 | matkix | yep its there |
| 20:46.29 | elmo40 | then try ifup |
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| 20:46.58 | matkix | just "ifup"? |
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| 20:48.01 | elmo40 | ifup eth# |
| 20:48.14 | elmo40 | whatever the eth number is (eth0, eth1...) |
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| 20:48.19 | matkix | device or resource busy |
| 20:48.20 | xingu | erpo: diff -u orig patched |
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| 20:48.47 | elmo40 | matkix: are you root? |
| 20:49.01 | matkix | yes |
| 20:49.06 | xingu | erpo: non-unified form went out with platform soles |
| 20:49.12 | elmo40 | and it is busy? |
| 20:49.20 | matkix | says so |
| 20:49.26 | elmo40 | weird... try ifdown then. |
| 20:49.41 | erpo | xingu: I don't know what non-unified form is. I've never used diff before. |
| 20:49.58 | xingu | erpo: compare/contrast the output of diff vs diff -u |
| 20:50.01 | matkix | Interface eth0 not configured |
| 20:50.13 | matkix | when i run ifdown eth0 |
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| 20:51.52 | matkix | elmo40: Ideas? |
| 20:52.15 | Whisper | to be able to install source packages, what package is needed? |
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| 20:52.50 | Whisper | cant remember its name |
| 20:53.19 | q_ | hi |
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| 20:53.34 | abrotman | !source |
| 20:53.34 | dpkg | To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space. as root: 'aptitude install build-essential fakeroot devscripts' and 'apt-get build-dep {packagename}'. as any user: 'apt-get source {packagename}', cd into the directory it creates, edit 'debian/rules' to suit, run 'debuild -us -uc'. |
| 20:53.57 | elmo40 | matkix: no network-admin or anything? |
| 20:53.58 | q_ | I'm trying install beryl on debian but I have some problem |
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| 20:54.30 | Whisper | abrotman i wanna be able to do make... |
| 20:54.31 | abrotman | beryl isn't in debian .. and is dead upstream |
| 20:54.35 | q_ | could you help me anyone? |
| 20:54.36 | abrotman | !b-e Whisper |
| 20:54.36 | Whisper | aah |
| 20:54.37 | dpkg | Whisper: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 20:54.38 | Whisper | nvm |
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| 20:55.11 | elmo40 | q_: try compiz? |
| 20:55.26 | q_ | no I didnt try compviz |
| 20:55.46 | elmo40 | beryl 'returned' to compiz |
| 20:55.58 | q_ | what can I do? |
| 20:56.04 | elmo40 | no more beryl... install compiz |
| 20:56.05 | q_ | what is your offer? |
| 20:56.12 | q_ | ok |
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| 20:56.52 | q_ | than, I have to try compiz. Is it true? |
| 20:57.40 | elmo40 | google it. |
| 20:57.47 | q_ | ok |
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| 20:57.53 | elmo40 | or, compiz.org |
| 20:57.56 | q_ | I'm looking now it |
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| 20:59.24 | q_ | thanks alot man |
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| 20:59.35 | elmo40 | anytime |
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| 21:01.50 | Whisper | www.pastebin.ca/837657 what to do? |
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| 21:02.40 | azeem | Whisper: figure out why mysql fails to start (read the logs) or remove it |
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| 21:03.26 | Whisper | azeem okay |
| 21:03.39 | Whisper | how do i see what packages i have installeD? |
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| 21:03.43 | Whisper | and search in em |
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| 21:04.05 | stevendubois | how do i start ssh? |
| 21:04.05 | elmo40 | use a GUI manager |
| 21:04.13 | elmo40 | stevendubois: the server? |
| 21:04.16 | stevendubois | yes |
| 21:04.28 | elmo40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.57 | stevendubois | no such file |
| 21:05.02 | Tramp | no. /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 21:05.12 | elmo40 | init? |
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| 21:05.25 | stevendubois | Tramp: no such file |
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| 21:05.32 | azeem | it's sshd |
| 21:05.39 | azeem | eh. |
| 21:05.41 | Tramp | stevendubois: then you may want to install the package |
| 21:05.41 | stevendubois | same |
| 21:05.42 | azeem | stevendubois: install it |
| 21:06.01 | stevendubois | i thought it came preinstalled |
| 21:06.01 | Tramp | stevendubois: it's openssh-server, iirc |
| 21:06.02 | stevendubois | hmm |
| 21:06.09 | darkstego | do I need xfstt server to run TT fonts on my machine? |
| 21:06.26 | darkstego | or will the xserver just find them and run them? |
| 21:06.31 | Tramp | azeem: no. It's ssh. |
| 21:06.57 | azeem | yeah, that's what I meant with "eh." |
| 21:07.07 | DawnLight | can i tell a windomem by looking at it? |
| 21:09.06 | simonrvn | darkstego: door #2 |
| 21:09.25 | elmo40 | Tramp: no, it is sshd, the server deamon |
| 21:09.37 | simonrvn | darkstego: having a font server is only really useful if you have fonts you want to share on your lan, or running a thin client |
| 21:09.55 | Tramp | elmo40: the init-script is ssh. And that's what he should run to start the bloody server |
| 21:10.42 | elmo40 | The OpenSSH suite replaces rlogin and telnet with the ssh program, rcp with scp, and ftp with sftp. Also included is sshd (the server side of the package) |
| 21:10.50 | elmo40 | sshd is the SERVER |
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| 21:11.23 | simonrvn | elmo40: yeh, but it starts sshd... |
| 21:11.38 | simonrvn | *sigh* |
| 21:11.41 | Tramp | elmo40: Whatever you say. "/etc/init.d/ssh start" starts the server. "/usr/sbin/sshd start" just fails. |
| 21:11.48 | elmo40 | he wanted the server going. not the client. |
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| 21:11.56 | DexterF | hi |
| 21:12.05 | DexterF | !cp850 |
| 21:12.11 | azeem | DexterF: please /msg the bot |
| 21:12.14 | DexterF | k |
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| 21:12.42 | simonrvn | elmo40: the init script is called ssh |
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| 21:13.15 | elmo40 | then what is sshd? |
| 21:13.27 | azeem | elmo40: a binary |
| 21:13.32 | simonrvn | there is no sshd script |
| 21:13.32 | elmo40 | to do what? |
| 21:13.34 | azeem | elmo40: are you sure you should do Debian support? |
| 21:13.40 | darkstego | thanks, simonrvn |
| 21:13.52 | DexterF | bot wont talk. dead? |
| 21:14.11 | azeem | DexterF: it only answers to factoids it knows |
| 21:14.12 | azeem | !hi |
| 21:14.13 | dpkg | hello, azeem |
| 21:14.27 | simonrvn | if there's no factoid, it'll tell you or be quiet |
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| 21:14.33 | simonrvn | !foewr |
| 21:14.38 | simonrvn | see? |
| 21:14.48 | plb_ | anyone have a thinkpad t43? can't get wireless working for nothing on it |
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| 21:14.54 | DexterF | mpf. ok, cd burnt in windows, using german umlaute. mounted in deb umlaute are garbled. what do I need to do to display them properly? |
| 21:15.07 | azeem | plb_: rather, tell us which wlan chip it uses |
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| 21:15.21 | simonrvn | iocharset=utf8 *might* help |
| 21:15.34 | simonrvn | (mount option) |
| 21:15.34 | plb_ | dmesg tells me its a broadcom kind |
| 21:15.41 | dimir | Morning! |
| 21:16.10 | chris____ | how many sub-directories could i create in my home dir on a standard etch i386 installation? (ext2 i suppose) |
| 21:16.16 | simonrvn | hi dimir |
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| 21:16.26 | dimir | hoi |
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| 21:16.32 | plb_ | er |
| 21:16.34 | plb_ | hm |
| 21:16.44 | plb_ | eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95751M) rev 4101 PHY(5750)] (PCI Express) 10/100/1000Base-T Ethernet 00:16:41:55:ae:01 |
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| 21:17.00 | azeem | plb_: that's ethernet, not wlan |
| 21:17.03 | dvs | plb_: tg3 |
| 21:17.04 | Whisper | how do i apt-get the kernel sources? |
| 21:17.19 | plb_ | i have tg3 in /etc/modules |
| 21:17.30 | azeem | plb_: I thought you were concerned about wlan |
| 21:17.33 | stew | Whisper: why do you want them? (most people that ask this question actually want headers, not sources) |
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| 21:17.34 | dvs | plb_: but as azeem said, that's not for wireless |
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| 21:17.37 | abrotman | doesn't tg3 need firmware? |
| 21:17.38 | plb_ | oh |
| 21:17.39 | DexterF | simonrvn: no go. screw it, ill copy it 1:1 |
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| 21:17.44 | dvs | abrotman: not for me |
| 21:17.47 | plb_ | well how do i check what I have for wlan? |
| 21:17.53 | plb_ | never dealt with wireless before |
| 21:17.56 | azeem | plb_: lspci |
| 21:18.04 | Whisper | stew vmware needs some headers or something |
| 21:18.18 | Whisper | C header files of current running kernel |
| 21:18.19 | stew | Whisper: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 21:18.21 | elmo40 | azeem: i dont do support... so it seems. when I type '/usr/sbin/sshd --start', i have an instance of sshd running... and i can now ssh into this machine. Same thing as using the init.d way. Does it matter? |
| 21:18.25 | Whisper | thanks |
| 21:18.31 | azeem | elmo40: yes |
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| 21:19.06 | azeem | elmo40: the first is unsupported usage, the second is how it's done properly |
| 21:19.15 | elmo40 | when i type 'ps -aux | grep ssh', either using the init.d way or the sbin way, i still have the same instance of /usr/sbin/sshd running. |
| 21:19.16 | azeem | elmo40: also note you said |
| 21:19.16 | plb_ | azeem: what am I looking for in lspci? |
| 21:19.17 | azeem | 21:59 < elmo40> /usr/sbin/sshd start |
| 21:19.26 | plb_ | network controller? |
| 21:19.28 | azeem | plb_: something with Broadcomm probably |
| 21:19.30 | plb_ | ya |
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| 21:19.32 | elmo40 | ya, forgot the --, sorry |
| 21:19.32 | plb_ | broadcom |
| 21:19.36 | plb_ | 2200 |
| 21:19.38 | dvs | plb_: paste the output to pastebin.ca |
| 21:19.45 | plb_ | ok |
| 21:19.49 | stew | abrotman: tg3 needs firmware, but the firmware is actually contained in the module itself |
| 21:19.55 | simonrvn | the -- wouldn't matter o_O |
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| 21:20.25 | plb_ | http://pastebin.ca/837690 |
| 21:20.27 | plb_ | there ya go |
| 21:20.30 | stew | elmo40: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:20.44 | azeem | plb_: it says Intel |
| 21:20.47 | plb_ | ya |
| 21:20.58 | azeem | !ipw2200 |
| 21:20.58 | dpkg | You need the firmware to make the card work. Run "/sbin/modinfo ipw2200 |grep version" to get your driver version. Go to http://ipw2200.sf.net/firmware.php and download the firmware matching your driver version. Unpack it into /lib/firmware. You will need to have udev or hotplug installed to load the firmware. If you have a kernel earlier than 2.6.15, ask about <ipw2200 build>. See also <ipw2200 troubleshooting>. |
| 21:21.00 | elmo40 | stew: trying to get my bcm43xx working. ;) But got sidetracked. |
| 21:21.02 | dvs | # |
| 21:21.02 | dvs | 04:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05) |
| 21:21.02 | dvs | # |
| 21:21.13 | dvs | oops. sorry |
| 21:21.16 | plb_ | ok |
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| 21:22.43 | azeem | hrm, shouldn't that factoid talk about the ipw2200-modules-* package as well, or is that automatically installed? |
| 21:23.39 | Whisper | stew when i do that it asks me to change cd disc, what to do? :S |
| 21:23.41 | plb_ | brb |
| 21:24.04 | azeem | Whisper: follow the instructions |
| 21:24.12 | azeem | that's what they're there for |
| 21:24.24 | Whisper | well, i would if i had the comp here |
| 21:24.28 | Whisper | and not 100 miles away |
| 21:24.48 | azeem | then setup your apt sources properly |
| 21:24.56 | Whisper | how? |
| 21:25.11 | azeem | !sources.list |
| 21:25.12 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "apt-get update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 21:25.31 | Whisper | thanks alot |
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| 21:25.39 | plb_ | hrm |
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| 21:26.09 | plb_ | ok I put the firmware /lib/firmware and have tg3 in /etc/modules and I believe networkmanager is setup properly but still nothing |
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| 21:26.26 | azeem | plb_: what does "lsmod | grep ipw2200" say? |
| 21:26.46 | plb_ | ipw2200 131396 0 |
| 21:26.46 | plb_ | ieee80211 31656 1 ipw2200 |
| 21:26.46 | plb_ | firmware_class 9504 2 pcmcia,ipw2200 |
| 21:26.47 | dvs | plb_: forget about tg3. That's the wired connection. |
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| 21:26.55 | plb_ | ah |
| 21:27.15 | azeem | plb_: and ifconfig? |
| 21:27.22 | azeem | plb_: do you have eth0 and eth1 ? |
| 21:27.42 | plb_ | yeah |
| 21:27.59 | azeem | then try "/etc/init.d/dbus restart" |
| 21:28.01 | plb_ | eth1 is on |
| 21:28.03 | plb_ | ok |
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| 21:28.31 | plb_ | now what? |
| 21:29.23 | azeem | now check the network manager applet again |
| 21:29.41 | plb_ | I'm actually in fluxbox |
| 21:29.47 | plb_ | don't see it |
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| 21:30.12 | plb_ | hrm |
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| 21:30.17 | INFOEXCLUDED | are theree any mind readers in here ? |
| 21:30.30 | dvs | INFOEXCLUDED: abrotman |
| 21:30.58 | azeem | plb_: so what do you mean with "I believe networkmanager is setup properly"? |
| 21:31.16 | INFOEXCLUDED | dvs: ? |
| 21:31.22 | INFOEXCLUDED | you read minds ? |
| 21:31.32 | dvs | no |
| 21:31.38 | plb_ | I followed a howto...network-manager-gnome is just a frontend to network manager..right? |
| 21:31.54 | plb_ | meh I'll install gnome-core and see if I see it |
| 21:31.55 | INFOEXCLUDED | you dont you ? |
| 21:32.01 | FiendishFish | Whenever i've got a window open with debian/fluxbox, it dissapears from the task bar, and when i minimise it it appears back etc.. Is that changeable? |
| 21:32.46 | q_ | hi everyone |
| 21:32.48 | azeem | plb_: yeah, but how do you interact with network-manager if you don't have a frontend? |
| 21:32.56 | azeem | plb_: I assume you don't send d-bus signals manually |
| 21:33.01 | q_ | I have some problem |
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| 21:33.15 | bucky | INFOEXCLUDED, i can read minds.. right now you're thinking that I can't read minds |
| 21:33.16 | azeem | !ask |
| 21:33.16 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 21:33.19 | azeem | q_: ^^ |
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| 21:33.49 | q_ | someting do |
| 21:33.52 | q_ | debian:/# glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version string:" |
| 21:33.52 | q_ | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
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| 21:34.07 | azeem | q_: don't run X as root |
| 21:34.07 | INFOEXCLUDED | can you read dvs mind and tell me about it ' |
| 21:34.12 | q_ | this is my code and My problems together |
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| 21:34.13 | INFOEXCLUDED | bucky can you read dvs mind and tell me about it ' |
| 21:34.14 | azeem | q_: and/or don't run X applications as root |
| 21:34.18 | stew | INFOEXCLUDED: do you have a debian related question? |
| 21:34.38 | q_ | What can I do? |
| 21:34.53 | dvs | q_: are you trying it as root? |
| 21:34.56 | INFOEXCLUDED | I LOVE DEBIAN |
| 21:34.58 | q_ | yes |
| 21:35.03 | bucky | ok.. dvs can't figure out why his wireless card doens |
| 21:35.06 | dvs | q_: that's why |
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| 21:35.25 | INFOEXCLUDED | tosh|: can you read minds ? |
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| 21:35.26 | q_ | want to look my nvidia drivers |
| 21:35.32 | mbroeker | INFOEXCLUDED, so what's your problem? |
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| 21:35.43 | q_ | debian:/# glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version string:" |
| 21:35.49 | tosh| | anyone know how to get .so files out of an .a archive file? |
| 21:35.52 | q_ | this is my code saple |
| 21:36.04 | tosh| | a tool im trying to use wants libpcap.so but I only have libpcap.a on my system |
| 21:36.09 | bucky | INFOEXCLUDED, got any mateus ? |
| 21:36.22 | q_ | I want to install beryl or compiz |
| 21:36.40 | azeem | q_: 22:29 < azeem> q_: and/or don't run X applications as root |
| 21:36.43 | INFOEXCLUDED | mateus ? |
| 21:36.45 | azeem | q_: why do you run glxinfo as root? |
| 21:36.47 | plb_ | brb |
| 21:36.48 | q_ | but at first I have to install nvidia driver as true |
| 21:37.14 | INFOEXCLUDED | whats is mateos ? |
| 21:37.15 | mbroeker | tosh|, .so is a shared object library and .a is the statically linked one. they cannot be transformed. |
| 21:37.37 | tosh| | mbroeker so I would have to compile libpcap manually and specify that I want a shared lib? |
| 21:37.39 | q_ | I'm trying with other users |
| 21:37.44 | INFOEXCLUDED | bucky: whats is mateos ? |
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| 21:38.32 | mbroeker | tosh|, if you have the source, you can search for -lpcap and change that to libpcap.a |
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| 21:39.31 | INFOEXCLUDED | bucky: whats is mateos ? |
| 21:39.38 | ravn | anyone can explain to me what is wrong if I have a folder dir with 755 foo foo as permissions, owner and group. Then do as root chgrp bar dir; chmod -R g+w dir; addgroup me bar; then as me cp file dir/ and get cp: can not create file dir/file: Permission denied?! |
| 21:39.41 | INFOEXCLUDED | i cant read minds you have to tell me |
| 21:39.53 | azeem | INFOEXCLUDED: take this elsewhere |
| 21:39.56 | tosh| | mbroeker its a perl script that uses Net::RawIP that relies on libpcap.so :( any ideas? |
| 21:40.20 | cusco | tosh|: just install libpcap0.8-dev |
| 21:40.32 | mbroeker | tosh|, install libpcap-dev and cusco was faster... |
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| 21:40.54 | cusco | :p |
| 21:41.21 | INFOEXCLUDED | cusco do you rwead minds ? |
| 21:41.22 | tosh| | mbroeker thnx |
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| 21:41.42 | plb_ | azeem-uni: still not working |
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| 21:41.59 | plb_ | all I see is wired network connection |
| 21:42.20 | azeem | plb_: did you add eth1 to /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 21:42.42 | cusco | INFOEXCLUDED: nao, porque? |
| 21:42.43 | plb_ | nope doesn't network manager set that up automatically? A howto I read said so |
| 21:42.53 | cusco | -_- |
| 21:42.56 | mbroeker | i got my new router up and running. i love samsung right now. |
| 21:42.57 | azeem | plb_: pastebin the output of iwconfig |
| 21:43.06 | dvs | mbroeker: samsung makes routers? |
| 21:43.09 | plb_ | ok |
| 21:43.37 | mbroeker | dvs yes they do: with built-in spy-ware called TR-069... |
| 21:43.38 | plb_ | azeem: eth1 eth0 both say no wireless extensions |
| 21:43.53 | cusco | lol |
| 21:43.58 | azeem | cusco: ? |
| 21:44.05 | cusco | built in spy-ware |
| 21:44.11 | azeem | plb_: are you sure the firmware is the correct version and at the correct place? |
| 21:44.16 | azeem | plb_: check dmesg, maybe |
| 21:44.20 | plb_ | ok |
| 21:44.22 | dvs | mbroeker: sonunds like Vista |
| 21:44.26 | plb_ | ya /lib/firmware version 1.2 |
| 21:44.29 | azeem | plb_: also, maybe you need to turn on wlan via a hotkey on your notebook or so? |
| 21:44.37 | plb_ | hm |
| 21:44.43 | plb_ | was workin on windows lemme see |
| 21:44.44 | mbroeker | dvs, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-069 |
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| 21:45.32 | mbroeker | but i can live with it. i am not a criminal. |
| 21:45.36 | dvs | mbroeker: that sounds scary! |
| 21:46.23 | sketchysecurity | cisco hardware has tr-069 |
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| 21:47.14 | BlueBeret | my Icedove keeps crashing when downloading messages ever since I upgraded to 2.x. what steps should I take? |
| 21:47.36 | Guerin | BlueBeret: imap or pop or other? |
| 21:47.42 | BlueBeret | Guerin: pop |
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| 21:47.51 | mbroeker | sketchysecurity, tr-069 is a soap application for isps. They can configure difficult hardware from remote without interact with the user. |
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| 21:48.17 | Guerin | BlueBeret: back up your messages someplace locally, then delete your .mozilla/thunderbird dir and start afresh, importing your messages again |
| 21:48.30 | BlueBeret | OK |
| 21:49.04 | Guerin | BlueBeret: you can just move your thunderbird dir aside if you're worried about deleting it permanently |
| 21:49.04 | BlueBeret | is renaming ~/.mozilla-thunderbird okay? |
| 21:49.09 | Guerin | yes :) |
| 21:49.25 | mbroeker | sketchysecurity, thats the good news, because it reflects customer needs. |
| 21:50.08 | mbroeker | sketchysecurity, but the bad news: the isp or a government is able to install custom software on the router hardware and change settings as they like... |
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| 21:50.24 | BlueBeret | Guerin: bad news |
| 21:50.32 | BlueBeret | segfault again |
| 21:50.49 | BlueBeret | just when the "Connecting to server" status message shows up |
| 21:50.51 | Guerin | BlueBeret: make sure your homedir is not full |
| 21:51.08 | BlueBeret | Guerin: 13G available on filesystem |
| 21:51.16 | Guerin | often mozilla gear fails to check if there's any free space in ~ |
| 21:51.22 | Guerin | hm, that ain't it, then |
| 21:51.35 | Guerin | i'm out of ideas |
| 21:51.38 | Guerin | suggest using mutt |
| 21:51.56 | rdorsch | why does konsole -T test -e "/bin/ls; sleep 5" not find /bin/ls --- konsole: ERROR: can not execute /bin/ls; ? |
| 21:52.03 | BlueBeret | Guerin: you like it more than thunderbird? :) |
| 21:52.04 | rdorsch | fresh installed lenny system. |
| 21:52.09 | Guerin | BlueBeret: hell yeah. |
| 21:52.32 | BlueBeret | Guerin: is it still alive? I mean, can it even decipher MIME, encodings and stuff? |
| 21:53.07 | Guerin | BlueBeret: yes, it has hooks for all those sorts of things |
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| 21:53.37 | BlueBeret | Guerin: okay, thanks for the tip. I guess a text-based client might be a plus after all :) |
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| 21:53.43 | lindenle | Amarok keeps locking up on my machine' |
| 21:53.48 | lindenle | can someone help me debug |
| 21:54.20 | xand | can debian's kernel do QoS stuff? |
| 21:54.24 | Ace2016 | how do you hide the summary area in top? i tred man but can't figure out how you turn summary off |
| 21:54.37 | xand | I'm getting pissed off with laggy ssh during big downloads |
| 21:54.58 | mbroeker | dvs: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/telecommunication/productInfo.do?ctgry_group=14&ctgry_type=32&b2b_prd_id=21 |
| 21:55.25 | dvs | mbroeker: page not found |
| 21:55.37 | mbroeker | dvs ups sorry |
| 21:55.38 | xand | !qos |
| 21:55.39 | dpkg | from memory, qos is Quality of Service, a way of prioritizing IP traffic, or see DiffServ, or see Linux 2.4 Advanced Routing & Traffic Control HOWTO at http://lartc.org |
| 21:55.48 | xand | 2.4, how quaint |
| 21:55.50 | Tramp | rdorsch: no idea what "konsole" is, but maybe it does not use sh for its "-e". See the ";" at the end of the error |
| 21:55.54 | BlueBeret | Guerin: btw, can it have something to do with this message? > (gecko:3283): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font, expect ugly output. the offending font is 'Tahoma Bold 17.8984375' |
| 21:56.33 | Tramp | rdorsch: i.e it does not execute multiple commands seperated by ";" |
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| 21:57.03 | xand | http://lartc.org/ hasn't been updated in 2.5 years :( |
| 21:57.20 | Guerin | BlueBeret: yes, it very likely does. You could try making all messages display in plain text by default, or installing the msttcorefonts (if not already) |
| 21:57.37 | mbroeker | dvs, http://www.samsung.com/global/business/telecommunication/productInfo.do?ctgry_group=14&ctgry_type=32&b2b_prd_id=215 |
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| 21:57.40 | Guerin | but i must say that's a fucking stupid thing for a mua to segfault on |
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| 21:58.23 | BlueBeret | Guerin: I'm glad it occured to me. this one perhaps crashed acroread, too. but I have msttcorefonts... perhaps a force reinstall could do. will try. |
| 21:58.59 | Guerin | good luck |
| 21:59.06 | mbroeker | dvs, its a stable, robust and fast respnsing router. works very well with ip-telephony... |
| 21:59.19 | dvs | mbroeker: and it's a ADSL2+ modem! |
| 22:00.10 | mbroeker | dvs, yes i got it 2 days ago. It is needed for my new dsl+ip-telephony contact |
| 22:00.21 | mbroeker | contract |
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| 22:01.09 | plb_ | argh any other ideas azeem? |
| 22:01.58 | BlueBeret | WHAT. THE. FUCK. |
| 22:02.15 | BlueBeret | I can't believe gkrellmd failed to uninstall just because it wasn't running |
| 22:02.40 | rdorsch | Tramp: thanks. it did not like the semicolon. konsole is the "xterm of KDE" |
| 22:03.04 | Tramp | rdorsch: ok.np. |
| 22:04.27 | h3xis | in lenny, when i right click on the desktop and click "change desktop background" nothing happens. is this due to the new "appearance" utility in gnome-control-center? |
| 22:06.09 | AMDFreak | h3xis: no, in this fact it opens the new utility |
| 22:06.26 | h3xis | AMDFreak, really? it doesnt open mine :S |
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| 22:07.02 | AMDFreak | h3xis: yes.. really! |
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| 22:07.06 | h3xis | :o |
| 22:07.14 | h3xis | AMDFreak, any ideas as to why it doesnt work? |
| 22:07.25 | sarefo3 | i'm trying to compile some module, and it says i need gcc 4.1.3, but i have 4.2.3. what's the best procedure here? i don't really think downgrading has to be the only solution. |
| 22:08.19 | drwahl | sarefo3: you can make a link to gcc4.2.3 if you have it installed, then link back to 4.2.3 to resume normal activity |
| 22:08.22 | robin_sz | "compile some module"? using module-assistant? and which module exactly? |
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| 22:09.01 | AMDFreak | h3xis: any thing wrong in gconf |
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| 22:09.46 | sarefo3 | robin_sz: it's a vmware tools module. |
| 22:09.48 | h3xis | AMDFreak, not that i know of. i'm running 2.20.0 |
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| 22:09.53 | suppaman | hello |
| 22:10.01 | AMDFreak | h3xis: add a new user and try it.. |
| 22:10.08 | h3xis | k |
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| 22:10.36 | H4ZE | using PICO(text editor). How can I go to specific line number? |
| 22:10.38 | H4ZE | ctrl + ? |
| 22:10.52 | drwahl | sarefo3: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.2 /usr/bin/gcc that will lnk gcc-4.2 to gcc, which is what the module should call. you may need to remove /usr/bin/gcc before you make the link |
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| 22:11.14 | sarefo3 | drwahl: i did that, but it seems to check the version. |
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| 22:11.46 | robin_sz | sarefo3: you may care to also hassle the vmware maintainer to have them check for 4.2.1 or later, instead of 4.2.1 exsctly |
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| 22:12.36 | sarefo3 | it says that the kernel was built with 4.1.3, so it insists on this version. |
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| 22:12.59 | robin_sz | ahh, well, yes, thats a good point then |
| 22:13.05 | BlueBeret | damn. |
| 22:13.07 | h3xis | AMDFreak, doesnt work as another user either |
| 22:13.11 | BlueBeret | still the same segfault |
| 22:13.19 | BlueBeret | and the same Tahoma warnings |
| 22:13.36 | H4ZE | anyone? |
| 22:13.45 | drwahl | H4ZE: sorry, i only know vi |
| 22:14.30 | BlueBeret | BUT |
| 22:14.35 | BlueBeret | there is one strange thing happening |
| 22:14.44 | BlueBeret | the Tahoma Bold font stays there even after purge |
| 22:14.54 | BlueBeret | so let's try the opposite. :-) |
| 22:15.05 | BlueBeret | purge Tahoma Bold and get the rest in. |
| 22:15.06 | H4ZE | drwahl: vi too |
| 22:15.13 | H4ZE | how can I go to a specific line using vi |
| 22:15.20 | sarefo3 | robin_sz: the module actually gets built, but insmod segfaults. |
| 22:15.24 | robin_sz | 56G |
| 22:15.25 | drwahl | H4ZE: for vi, type :24 to go to line 24 |
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| 22:15.31 | H4ZE | thanks |
| 22:15.41 | robin_sz | tyoe line number and then capital G |
| 22:15.52 | AMDFreak | h3xis: i don`t know about any bugs.. i use sid and i can say it works |
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| 22:16.14 | BlueBeret | Guerin: you were right! it was Tahoma Bold! |
| 22:16.19 | BlueBeret | and probably a bug in GTK+ as well. |
| 22:16.26 | Guerin | BlueBeret: evil tahoma! |
| 22:16.33 | Guerin | evil GTK also |
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| 22:16.49 | Guerin | jeebus, whoever heard of a program crashing because it couldn't figure out a font |
| 22:16.55 | h3xis | AMDFreak, the appearance utility is part of gnome-control-center though, right? |
| 22:16.59 | robin_sz | sarefo3 looks like you are stuffed then ... just out of curiosity, whiche version of Debian are you running, and which kernel? |
| 22:17.03 | BlueBeret | Guerin: don't mess with my GTK! : |
| 22:17.04 | Guerin | that's the sort of shit I'd expect from a windows program |
| 22:17.05 | BlueBeret | :) |
| 22:17.13 | azeem | !hi |
| 22:17.16 | azeem | oops |
| 22:17.28 | drwahl | sarefo3: and what module are you trying to install? |
| 22:17.33 | azeem | dondelelcaro: seems like dpkg is down |
| 22:17.34 | Guerin | azeem: a gracious hello to you, too |
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| 22:17.36 | AMDFreak | h3xis: i think so |
| 22:17.46 | Guerin | wtf |
| 22:17.47 | sarefo3 | drwahl: vmhgfs |
| 22:17.54 | Guerin | and debhelper is doing bong hits |
| 22:18.05 | Guerin | &test |
| 22:18.30 | sarefo3 | robin_sz: lenny with 2.6.22-3-486 |
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| 22:18.51 | BlueBeret | whoops, am I a talkie. |
| 22:20.57 | mrrcp | Question: Im using open vpn and i make like 5 keys and ./build-dh .... Can i add other keys later? |
| 22:21.12 | drwahl | sarefo3: i assume you have gcc-4.2.3 (or whatever you need) installed? |
| 22:21.40 | sarefo3 | drwahl: right, and the module compiles fine. but then insmod segfaults with the following message: |
| 22:21.49 | drwahl | sarefo3: have you tried setting your evnironment CC variable to CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.2.3 (or whatever gcc you need)? |
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| 22:22.59 | sarefo3 | 'there is probably a slight difference in the kernel config between the set of c header files you specified + your running kernel' |
| 22:23.50 | azeem | sarefo3: that's not a message modules segfault with |
| 22:23.55 | azeem | ... I guess |
| 22:24.09 | sarefo3 | azeem: you're right, that msg is probably from the vmware tools installer. |
| 22:24.12 | azeem | !hi |
| 22:24.15 | azeem | hrm |
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| 22:24.28 | robin_sz | sarefo3; lenny has gcc 4.2.1-6, not 4.2.3, you SURE you are running lenny? |
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| 22:25.53 | sarefo3 | robin_sz: yes :) |
| 22:26.06 | sarefo3 | i update it quite often. |
| 22:26.43 | DawnLight | can i make an interface bridge between a wired and a wireless? |
| 22:26.49 | robin_sz | sarefo3: the other answer would be to grab the kernel sources for 2.6.22-3, and build it with your current gcc |
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| 22:27.09 | drwahl | DawnLight: do you have a wired NIC and wireless NIC in the same machine? |
| 22:27.17 | DawnLight | drwahl: yes |
| 22:27.21 | robin_sz | sarefo3: seems you must update it more often than the develeopers, http://packages.debian.org/testing/devel/ only shows 4.2.1-6 |
| 22:27.35 | sarefo3 | robin_sz: heh |
| 22:27.47 | robin_sz | using a backport gcc, with a stock kernel maybe? |
| 22:27.53 | ringo999 | hi. i have a problem with my wlan: wlan connect and i get an ip address from the router. skype connect. pinging the router and web browsing failes. what could be the problem? |
| 22:28.02 | drwahl | DawnLight: are you trying to set the wireless NIC up to accept multiple incoming connections, or just connected to a wireless network? |
| 22:28.15 | cafuego | evil, evil #debian |
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| 22:28.18 | DawnLight | ringo999: dns |
| 22:28.30 | ringo999 | DawnLight: yep, how to do? |
| 22:28.42 | sarefo3 | robin_sz: well, i guess the best of all the bad options would be to rebuild the kernel... :(( |
| 22:29.15 | robin_sz | ringo999: fron the command line type host google.com and see if it finds an ip adress for it |
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| 22:29.32 | arooni | hey team ... i'm trying to log in via ssh to my desktop without having to type the password. i've already run ssh-keygen on my ubuntu laptop, then appended the ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub key to my file of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on my desktop ubuntu.... but when i ssh in .... i still have to type password... wtf? ideas? |
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| 22:29.41 | drwahl | ringo999: what "router" are you pinging? your own personal router i assume? |
| 22:29.47 | ringo999 | robin_sz: nope |
| 22:29.52 | ringo999 | drwahl: yep |
| 22:29.57 | ringo999 | where do i set up the dns? |
| 22:29.58 | bolt | I love you Debian! :D |
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| 22:29.59 | DawnLight | ringo999: if your router acts as a name server you could add it to your name server list. is your wireless interface configured via /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 22:30.19 | drwahl | ringo999: if you cannot ping your own router using the ip address, then you do not need to worry about dns yet. get that link up first |
| 22:30.25 | ringo999 | DawnLight: yep, im using dhcp and wpa_supplicant |
| 22:30.35 | robin_sz | ringo999: your wlan has some router giving out the adresses to your machine via dhcp? |
| 22:30.43 | drwahl | ringo999: where are you getting your ip from? the router you are trying to ping? |
| 22:30.47 | robin_sz | ahhm |
| 22:30.54 | ringo999 | drwahl: the link is up, it assigns an ip and skype also connect |
| 22:30.59 | robin_sz | wpa_supplicant ... |
| 22:31.06 | ringo999 | drwahl: yes |
| 22:31.09 | DawnLight | ringo999: type "cat /etc/resolv.conf" |
| 22:31.36 | drwahl | ringo999: skype can be very misleading.. i have seen it hack through airport networks to connect, so dont base your connectivity off of that :) |
| 22:31.41 | robin_sz | had to resort to static entries in the end |
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| 22:31.48 | ringo999 | yeah, i think thats the problem, it lists the router as dns, maybe i should list an external dns, that should work probably |
| 22:31.51 | ringo999 | will try |
| 22:31.53 | drwahl | ringo999: do you know the address on the other side of the router? |
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| 22:32.02 | suppaman | damn this X config is seriously flawed |
| 22:32.06 | suppaman | I cannot play bzflag |
| 22:32.13 | ringo999 | can i have multiple nameserver in resolv.conf |
| 22:32.19 | drwahl | ringo999: ya |
| 22:32.19 | robin_sz | yes |
| 22:32.20 | DawnLight | ringo999: yes |
| 22:32.21 | robin_sz | yes you can |
| 22:32.28 | drwahl | but only the top 3 actually are used |
| 22:32.48 | robin_sz | wpa_supplicant does not play nicely with DHCP in my experience |
| 22:32.56 | DawnLight | drwahl: do you have experience with bridging wired and wireless interfaces? |
| 22:32.57 | robin_sz | its a little git. |
| 22:33.10 | liable | its usually the driver not wpasupp i have found |
| 22:33.20 | robin_sz | hmmm |
| 22:33.24 | drwahl | DawnLight: a little |
| 22:33.31 | drwahl | DawnLight: look into ipmasq |
| 22:33.51 | DawnLight | drwahl: what is ipmasq? |
| 22:33.53 | suppaman | I am not able to see my wireless network too |
| 22:33.54 | drwahl | DawnLight: that is what you will need to complete the bridge. you may also need to modify the routing table on that indvidual machine |
| 22:33.55 | ringo999 | problem solved! |
| 22:34.00 | ringo999 | thanks guys |
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| 22:34.15 | robin_sz | liable: so the card driver could be responsible for dhcp being able to send the ip adress ok, but not the dns servers? |
| 22:34.40 | ringo999 | i think the problem is my router, doesnt forward the dns requests or something... |
| 22:34.44 | drwahl | DawnLight: ipmasq allows you to pass ip packets accross multiple NICs |
| 22:34.51 | robin_sz | ahh, yes, more likely |
| 22:34.51 | liable | robin_sz: if you get an ip but not dns addresses, i would blame the router or client |
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| 22:35.27 | drwahl | *agrees |
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| 22:35.40 | arooni | anyone know how to solve my ssh thing? |
| 22:35.43 | suppaman | !nvidia |
| 22:35.45 | dpkg_ | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
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| 22:35.59 | sarefo4 | oops, i disconnected myself in vmware... if anybody answered my previous question, i did not get it. |
| 22:36.08 | sarefo3 | one more question: what exactly does insmod want to tell me with this: #insmod vmhgfs.o -> error inserting - file exists ? |
| 22:36.15 | robin_sz | arooni: you say it the Ubuntu desktop machine that keeps asking for password? |
| 22:36.15 | Pana | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
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| 22:36.21 | arooni | robboplus_, yes |
| 22:36.31 | dlynes | sarefo3: it means the driver is already loaded |
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| 22:36.48 | DawnLight | drwahl: ipmasq seems to help configure nat. nat is what i do now, but it is what i am trying to avoid because of double-nat - desktop - router box - wireless ap |
| 22:36.48 | robin_sz | arooni: then I know exactly where to look |
| 22:37.00 | jelly-home | !ops Pana is an obvious troll |
| 22:37.02 | arooni | robin_sz, wheres that? #ubuntu ? haha |
| 22:37.02 | Pana | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.03 | americanadian | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.03 | Pana | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.03 | dpkg_ | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly-home complains about: Pana is an obvious troll |
| 22:37.03 | americanadian | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.03 | Pana | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.03 | americanadian | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.04 | Pana | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.04 | americanadian | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.04 | Pana | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.04 | americanadian | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.04 | Pana | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.04 | americanadian | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.05 | Pana | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.05 | americanadian | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.07 | Pana | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
| 22:37.07 | americanadian | Linux is for poor people and Jews. |
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| 22:37.13 | troubled | tomaw: |
| 22:37.15 | troubled | nm |
| 22:37.17 | Gnurdux | blech |
| 22:37.17 | troubled | :) |
| 22:37.22 | sarefo4 | Pana: hey, i'm both :) |
| 22:37.32 | Gnurdux | heh |
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| 22:37.40 | robin_sz | arooni: exactly. #ubuntu, that the place |
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| 22:37.42 | DawnLight | he's got a point because i'm a poor jew |
| 22:37.42 | Gnurdux | im just a jew, not poor |
| 22:37.43 | Gnurdux | but still |
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| 22:38.03 | arooni | but this part is a ssh question |
| 22:38.04 | sarefo4 | as anybody knows, there are no poor jews ;) |
| 22:38.06 | arooni | not so much an ubuntu thing |
| 22:38.07 | eth01 | get back on topic. |
| 22:38.08 | eth01 | !topic |
| 22:38.13 | n1000 | Hello, I just got a camera (Canon Powershot A710 IS) and am having some trouble getting it to connect to my computer. I don't think it's a problem with libgphoto because the camera doesn't even appear when I run lusb! |
| 22:38.21 | liable | yes master |
| 22:38.23 | suppaman | DawnLight: but do you belong to "people" too ? |
| 22:38.26 | Gnurdux | most antisemites were antisemitic because they felt jews were too rich |
| 22:38.34 | rdorsch | Does anybody know a googleearth package similar as in medibuntu? I.e. aptitude upgrades whenever a new googleearth version is released. |
| 22:38.41 | robin_sz | arooni: no its not, the debain ssh client is working just fine, the config on the Ubuntu desktop is problematic it seems, go ask them |
| 22:38.44 | drwahl | DawnLight: hmm, i dont think i quite understand the issue with the double-nat. i mean, i UNDERSTAND the issue, but i dont understand why its an issue in your situation |
| 22:38.53 | DawnLight | suppaman: he mentioned people? |
| 22:39.13 | suppaman | DawnLight: "poor people" actually |
| 22:39.31 | suppaman | what is the proprietary module "nvidia" or "nv" ? |
| 22:39.35 | DawnLight | drwahl: because every port forwarding has to be done twice! |
| 22:39.35 | suppaman | which one* |
| 22:39.36 | Gnurdux | nvidia |
| 22:39.39 | Gnurdux | nv is open source |
| 22:40.09 | dlynes | how do i apt-get packages that are in contrib? |
| 22:40.40 | suppaman | dlynes: add contrib to deb lines |
| 22:40.55 | drwahl | DawnLight: why are you port forwarding? do you not have PnP setup? do the devices behind the bridge offer services publicly? |
| 22:40.58 | dlynes | suppaman: any idea what the url for taht might be, then? |
| 22:40.59 | sarefo4 | he probably ment to say juice. his orange juicer probably runs on linux. |
| 22:41.03 | suppaman | sure |
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| 22:41.22 | suppaman | this like: deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
| 22:41.36 | robin_sz | arooni: you cold try ssh -vvvvv <hostname> and try to diagnose what the problem is with the Ubuntu box, why its not recognising your key |
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| 22:41.45 | dlynes | suppaman: oh...i just need to add the keyword 'contrib' to the existing one, I guess, then |
| 22:42.06 | suppaman | I think so |
| 22:42.13 | suppaman | why isn't dpkg_ answering me in query ? |
| 22:42.35 | azeem | !hi |
| 22:42.42 | azeem | suppaman: because dpkg is down |
| 22:42.43 | dpkg_ | hello, azeem |
| 22:42.46 | azeem | ah |
| 22:42.49 | robin_sz | arooni: but we know not what Ubuntu have done to the sshd, you'll be much better off asking them directly, than us trying to guess |
| 22:43.33 | Gge | Hi , I have look at google forums about the ACER wifi problem and the acerhk package as solution . I hav einstalle dtis acerhk package but it is not loaded as per lsmod . any idea ? |
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| 22:45.13 | jelly-home | suppaman: perhaps you disallow msgs from unregistered nicks and dpkg_ is not registered? |
| 22:47.27 | suppaman | mm that could be |
| 22:47.43 | suppaman | but I think simply that freenode doesn't allow messagin from unregistered ppl |
| 22:47.47 | robin_sz | so, serial ports, anyone? emulate a serial port in Linux? |
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| 22:48.11 | suppaman | robin_sz: emulate serial port ? |
| 22:48.18 | robin_sz | yeah |
| 22:48.19 | suppaman | robin_sz: like a tty ? |
| 22:48.32 | robin_sz | no, like a virtual serial port |
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| 22:48.47 | zinx | robin_sz: you might try making a usermode driver |
| 22:48.55 | suppaman | robin_sz: what for btw ? |
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| 22:49.12 | n1000 | Can anyone help me? My phone is recognized just fine, but when the camera is plugged in to the same usb cable I get nothing. |
| 22:49.36 | robin_sz | program A makes a port /dev/ttyS99, that obviously doesnt exist in hardware, program B connecto to it, thjinking its an actual piece of hardware and starts chatting |
| 22:49.47 | DawnLight | n1000: webcam? |
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| 22:49.57 | petemc | n1000: not all cameras do usb-storage, gphoto2 might work |
| 22:50.00 | n1000 | negative, Canon PowerShot A710 |
| 22:50.09 | robin_sz | zinx: hmm, sounds hard |
| 22:50.33 | DawnLight | n1000: sorry, don't have experience |
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| 22:50.40 | n1000 | petemc: gphoto2 would work even if it's not recognized by lusb? |
| 22:50.51 | robin_sz | the other option would be to buy a dual port serial card and wire them together with a null modem cable |
| 22:50.53 | n1000 | *lsusb |
| 22:50.56 | petemc | n1000: one way to find out.. |
| 22:51.07 | suppaman | robin_sz: if the "actual piece of hardware" doesn't count maybe you can just use a fifo |
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| 22:51.38 | robin_sz | suppaman: I recognise the term, but have no clue what you mean |
| 22:52.21 | arisv | hello, just a question. just installed the nvidia driver from the nvidia web site. after each rebooting, I can't startx, after checking the log, I can't see any (EE), but the error has to do with the GLX module. So, If I do apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx and trying to startx everything is ok, after reboot, there is no X. Any ideas? |
| 22:52.50 | drwahl | arisv: can you pastbin your xorg log? |
| 22:52.53 | arisv | yep |
| 22:52.55 | arisv | w8 |
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| 22:53.56 | sdubois92 | !remove gnome |
| 22:54.03 | dpkg_ | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about <install gnome>), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
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| 22:54.28 | n1000 | petemc: I ran gphoto2 --auto-detect and got no results again |
| 22:54.29 | arisv | drwahl, http://pastebin.ca/837818 |
| 22:54.35 | arisv | here it is dude |
| 22:54.45 | drwahl | arisv: looking... |
| 22:54.50 | arisv | ok, take your time |
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| 22:54.59 | petemc | n1000: is there perhaps a setting on the camera to enable usb? |
| 22:55.32 | drwahl | arisv: can you also pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 22:55.39 | arisv | drwahl, sure |
| 22:55.45 | suppaman | robin_sz: man mkfifo |
| 22:56.23 | arisv | drwahl, http://pastebin.ca/837822 |
| 22:56.25 | arisv | here u are |
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| 22:56.58 | n1000 | petemc: solved the problem, it turned out to be trivial: Switch from photography mode to view mode... |
| 22:57.10 | n1000 | thanks, though |
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| 22:58.39 | suppaman | why are bots down ? |
| 22:58.41 | drwahl | arisv: ok, when you do "startx" what happens? any errors on screen? does it even try to load X? |
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| 22:59.49 | arisv | It tries, again and again. when am trying to startxfce4 let's say, my only solution is to reboot. When I am trying to start GDM, I take the error "X server disabled" |
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| 23:00.21 | arisv | but If I do apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx and trying to startx, it's ok. after rebooting.. nothing work |
| 23:00.26 | dlynes | suppaman: beautiful...thanks...have wireless under linux again |
| 23:00.27 | arisv | weird though |
| 23:00.38 | drwahl | try commenting out the Load "glx" section and see if that changes anything |
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| 23:01.28 | arisv | drwahl, it works. but I want the glx :-P |
| 23:01.32 | drwahl | arisv: also, what is the output for: lsmod | grep nv |
| 23:02.03 | arisv | drwahl, http://pastebin.ca/837826 the output |
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| 23:02.22 | drwahl | uhg, this stuff is so- good, but i think i have had too much :) |
| 23:02.28 | DawnLight | does anyone have experiece with bridging a wired nic with a managed wireless nic? it seems to get me disasociated with the AP |
| 23:02.38 | arisv | drwahl, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=214158&postcount=25 is this my solution maybe? |
| 23:03.27 | drwahl | arisv: that will get you the free driver, but not glx |
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| 23:03.39 | arisv | err... |
| 23:03.57 | arisv | so? any ideas? |
| 23:04.13 | drwahl | arisv: ya, i'm working on something... lemme finish processing this thought :) |
| 23:04.27 | arisv | drwahl, oh sorry, take your ime |
| 23:04.48 | drwahl | arisv: what card is it |
| 23:04.49 | drwahl | ? |
| 23:04.57 | arisv | nvidia 6600 |
| 23:05.46 | drwahl | have you tried uninstalling the nvidia driver, sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7664-pkg1.run --uninstall , then reinstalling it? |
| 23:06.02 | AMDFreak | arisv : disable nvidia-glx in runlevels |
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| 23:06.21 | arisv | AMDFreak, how can I do that? |
| 23:06.26 | DawnLight | drwahl: ouch. why are we using the installer script? |
| 23:07.16 | drwahl | DawnLight: to remove what was installed by it previously |
| 23:07.33 | DawnLight | drwahl: good |
| 23:07.58 | drwahl | arisv: if you can uninstall the driver, then use module-assistant to reinstall it, you should be good to go |
| 23:08.07 | drwahl | !tell arisv nvidia |
| 23:08.08 | AMDFreak | arisv: rcconf --remove nvida-glx |
| 23:08.40 | arisv | drwahl, module-assistant will install the free driver? |
| 23:08.47 | arisv | or the one from nvidia's website? |
| 23:09.08 | drwahl | arisv: it will install the proprietary driver if you have non-free in your sources.list |
| 23:09.15 | Guerin | arisv: the free one (nv) is already installed. m-a installs the proprietary shite |
| 23:09.24 | arisv | aha |
| 23:09.51 | arisv | remind me.. m-a auto-install nvidia ? |
| 23:09.51 | suppaman | Guerin: but nv and nvidia are referred to X modules rather than kernel modules |
| 23:09.58 | suppaman | I think m-a build the nvidia kernel module |
| 23:10.02 | suppaman | builds* |
| 23:10.09 | Guerin | suppaman: wtf? |
| 23:10.17 | Guerin | suppaman: the x modules *are* kernel modules. |
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| 23:10.20 | drwahl | m-a update & m-a prepare & m-a a-i nvidia |
| 23:10.27 | arisv | ok |
| 23:10.44 | drwahl | hrm... dpgk still down? |
| 23:10.44 | arisv | after removing the driver, and after adding non-free in repos |
| 23:10.47 | arisv | ok |
| 23:10.54 | Guerin | @test |
| 23:10.55 | ravenbird | No, guerin, you're not online any more. |
| 23:10.58 | suppaman | Guerin: the one specified in "Driver" directive ? |
| 23:11.05 | drwahl | arisv: you may also need to add contrib to the repos |
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| 23:11.20 | arisv | drwahl, btw "rcconf --remove nvida-glx" is this a solution? |
| 23:11.26 | arisv | just to summarize |
| 23:11.27 | Hoxzer | what port does apt use ? |
| 23:11.31 | Guerin | suppaman: yes. |
| 23:11.38 | drwahl | arisv: could be, i'm not familiar with rcconf |
| 23:11.42 | arisv | ok |
| 23:11.43 | Guerin | Hoxzer: it traverses http or ftp, at your directive. |
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| 23:12.32 | arisv | drwahl, are u sure that this command is correct? |
| 23:12.45 | drwahl | arisv: no |
| 23:12.46 | drwahl | :) |
| 23:12.52 | Guerin | arisv: since he didn't suggest it, why would he be? |
| 23:12.57 | arisv | true |
| 23:13.02 | arisv | AMDFreak, what about you? |
| 23:13.38 | dlynes | if you do regular apt-get upgrades, should debian automatically upgrade to 4.0r2 from 4.0r1? |
| 23:13.40 | arisv | ok ok, it is correct :P |
| 23:13.51 | AMDFreak | arisv: i know that this is the solution.. so what i should say? |
| 23:13.56 | Guerin | dlynes: yes, if you have security.d.o set up correctly in sources.list |
| 23:14.19 | dlynes | Guerin: if it's set up as the default, is that correct? |
| 23:14.22 | arisv | ok, thanks AMDFreak let's reboot |
| 23:14.39 | drwahl | dlynes: the key is that you need to do: apt-get dist-upgrade to get the latest security updates, which are considered new releases |
| 23:14.42 | Guerin | dlynes: i believe it is the default. You can tell by looking at the output of apt-cache policy |
| 23:15.28 | dlynes | drwahl: yeah...already tried that...didn't do anything...so i would assume i'm at 4.0r2, then |
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| 23:15.38 | drwahl | dlynes: you should be |
| 23:15.41 | dlynes | drwahl: cat /etc/debian_version just says 4.0...doesn't say r1 or r2 |
| 23:16.11 | drwahl | dlynes: hmm, i'm not sure about that one... it may not worry about release candidates |
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| 23:16.37 | dlynes | drwahl: i thought 4.0 was a final release, not a release candidate? |
| 23:16.54 | drwahl | dlynes: meh, i may a little confused, but i think you get the point |
| 23:17.09 | azeem | dlynes: it is, r1 and r2 are just point releases |
| 23:17.28 | drwahl | AMDFreak: rcconf doesnt remove modules does it? it just stops them from loading in the different runlevels, correct? |
| 23:17.29 | dlynes | ok |
| 23:17.51 | AphisOne | I have a laptop with a Wireless card that required the ipw3945 module installed, but after I got it the USB mouse no longer works, in fact it wasn't even recognized when it was plugged in. Dose anyone have any idea what I can do to fix this? |
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| 23:18.18 | drwahl | Althaser: does lsusb show anything? |
| 23:18.22 | arisv | AMDFreak, now the module is not loaded at all |
| 23:18.32 | arisv | I have X with no GLX |
| 23:18.43 | drwahl | arisv: rcconf just configured the runlevels to load certain modules |
| 23:18.58 | drwahl | arisv: i dont think that rcconf was the correct tool to get you to where you want to be |
| 23:19.05 | arisv | ah, ok |
| 23:19.17 | arisv | so am going to do what u told me by module-assistant |
| 23:19.21 | drwahl | arisv: try removing the driver with the install script, then try m-a |
| 23:19.22 | AMDFreak | rcconf removes the symlinks from scripts in /etc/init.d to the runlevels |
| 23:19.29 | AphisOne | drwahl: were you directing that question to me? |
| 23:19.43 | drwahl | AphisOne: ya |
| 23:20.01 | AMDFreak | arisv: is some fact you have to reinstall the driver.. but dont ask why |
| 23:20.44 | AphisOne | drwahl: yes it shows the USB IDE adapter |
| 23:20.46 | drwahl | AMDFreak: rcconf just configures the runlevels. i believe his driver is messed up or wasnt installed properly, which is why i suggested he use m-a to install the driver |
| 23:20.52 | drwahl | AphisOne: but not the mouse? |
| 23:21.43 | AphisOne | I have a USB mouse keyboard combo... it shows an entry, but for the entier device... |
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| 23:21.52 | drwahl | AphisOne: lsusb | grep usb what is the output? |
| 23:22.09 | drwahl | AphisOne: more importantly, does it show usbhid in that output |
| 23:22.21 | AphisOne | empty results |
| 23:22.30 | AMDFreak | drwahl: noo.. there is a script in the runlevels, that does any thing with the driver.. and comes with the nvidia driver, but makes trouble |
| 23:22.32 | r3tex | how do I prevent sshd from getting added to rc2.d whenever it's updated? |
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| 23:23.24 | drwahl | AphisOne: it looks like the usb modules arent loading correctly... i'm not sure what to do to fix it, but i think we've narrowed the issue down... |
| 23:23.30 | drwahl | AphisOne: lemme try something... |
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| 23:23.40 | AMDFreak | drwahl: and removing the script is the right solution, but sometimes you must reinstall the driver... |
| 23:24.00 | drwahl | AphisOne: wait... try: lsmod | grep usb |
| 23:24.02 | arisv | drwahl: I did what u told me, and nvidia-kernel installed, now what I have to do? reinstall the driver? |
| 23:24.04 | AphisOne | drwahl: that's true... |
| 23:24.07 | drwahl | AphisOne: small typo :) |
| 23:24.25 | drwahl | arisv: no, the driver is installed now |
| 23:24.38 | arisv | I just startx? |
| 23:24.45 | drwahl | arisv: now you just need to configure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file the way you want it |
| 23:24.52 | arisv | ok |
| 23:24.52 | drwahl | arisv: you can try to start x |
| 23:25.25 | AphisOne | drwahl: it shows usbhid |
| 23:25.33 | arisv | drwahl: many many errors |
| 23:25.35 | drwahl | AphisOne: ah, ok, so it did load the usbhid module |
| 23:25.52 | drwahl | arisv: but at least we are getting errors now, right? :) we can work out errors |
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| 23:26.36 | AphisOne | drwahl: it recognizes the device when I plug it in, but nither of them work |
| 23:26.40 | arisv | drwahl: true, failed to initialize nvidia kernel module, make sure that there is a support nvidia GPU in this system. |
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| 23:27.12 | drwahl | AphisOne: hmm, i'm not sure, maybe some one else in here knows more about this situation... sorry |
| 23:27.20 | AphisOne | I have an external USB drive that works compleatly |
| 23:27.30 | drwahl | AphisOne: that is wierd |
| 23:27.31 | AphisOne | okay... np thanks for the help |
| 23:27.36 | drwahl | AphisOne: np |
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| 23:27.42 | suppaman | arisv: did you load the new nvidia module ? |
| 23:27.50 | real0ne | i have installed wine |
| 23:27.53 | arisv | suppaman: no? :P modprobe nvidia? |
| 23:27.56 | real0ne | and i don't found it |
| 23:28.04 | suppaman | arisv: prolly |
| 23:28.10 | drwahl | arisv: ya, modprobe nvidia |
| 23:28.20 | arisv | ok |
| 23:28.24 | suppaman | but is should have inserted it on its own, maybe the old one is still loaded ? |
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| 23:28.42 | arisv | same error |
| 23:28.42 | simonrvn | modprobe -r the old one |
| 23:28.44 | arisv | ok |
| 23:28.47 | arisv | let's see |
| 23:29.00 | real0ne | i have installed wine but can i found this aplication plz |
| 23:29.19 | simonrvn | wine<tab><tab> |
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| 23:29.23 | arisv | ok, now loaded |
| 23:29.27 | arisv | let's try |
| 23:29.34 | drwahl | real0ne: what are you tring to do? run wine? |
| 23:29.40 | real0ne | yes |
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| 23:29.44 | real0ne | i want to run it |
| 23:29.58 | drwahl | can you just type: wine from the command line and have it run? |
| 23:30.05 | arisv | wow! |
| 23:30.07 | arisv | it works |
| 23:30.12 | simonrvn | you need to run something with it... |
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| 23:30.15 | drwahl | arisv: w00t! :) |
| 23:30.16 | arisv | with different logo of nvidia :-P |
| 23:30.17 | suppaman | how nice linux is |
| 23:30.29 | real0ne | no |
| 23:30.34 | simonrvn | you can turn that effing logo off |
| 23:30.38 | real0ne | drwahl no |
| 23:30.43 | simonrvn | (if you want) |
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| 23:30.44 | arisv | so, the "debian way" is better than the nvidia's web site driver? |
| 23:30.47 | drwahl | real0ne: does it give you an error, or does it just say that it cant find the command? |
| 23:30.48 | suppaman | arisv: actually with nvidia logo, open driver shouldn't have it |
| 23:30.59 | suppaman | arisv: afair nvidia installer is crappy |
| 23:31.06 | arisv | nice |
| 23:31.20 | real0ne | no |
| 23:31.26 | arisv | remind me please the command in order to check rendering, glxinfo |grep sth |
| 23:31.32 | real0ne | i just have do apt-get install xwine |
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| 23:31.34 | suppaman | guys now a real problem, bzflag crash without errors |
| 23:31.37 | drwahl | glxinf | grep render |
| 23:31.40 | arisv | ok |
| 23:31.44 | real0ne | but i don't know now how to rubn it |
| 23:31.45 | drwahl | err, glxinfo |
| 23:31.55 | sayers | After I've added a user with adduser how do I modify their information like their name? |
| 23:31.59 | drwahl | real0ne: try to run: winecfg |
| 23:32.10 | simonrvn | arisv: it's better to use the debian one, yeh. it doesn't screw up the other packages |
| 23:32.26 | arisv | nice |
| 23:32.36 | arisv | thank u guys, good night :) |
| 23:32.38 | simonrvn | dpkg-divert and friends ;) |
| 23:32.45 | real0ne | drwahl commmand not found |
| 23:32.54 | simonrvn | !installit |
| 23:33.01 | simonrvn | @installit |
| 23:33.03 | ravenbird | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 23:33.14 | dpkg_ | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get, or aptitude |
| 23:33.18 | drwahl | haha |
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| 23:33.35 | drwahl | real0ne: how did you go about installing wine? with apt-get or aptitude ? |
| 23:33.46 | real0ne | apt-get |
| 23:33.53 | AphisOne | drwahl: I'm laughing at myself right now!! I figured becuase the device was being recognized when I unpluged and pluged I had everything connected correctly.. I have a usb KVM and had it set on the wrong system.... |
| 23:33.56 | mike1o | either |
| 23:34.01 | simonrvn | !ping |
| 23:34.12 | simonrvn | hm |
| 23:34.16 | drwahl | AphisOne: haha, didnt see that one coming :) |
| 23:34.20 | dpkg_ | pong |
| 23:34.22 | simonrvn | network issues or something |
| 23:34.45 | drwahl | real0ne: it seems that it didnt install correctly, try installing it again with: apt-get install wine |
| 23:35.03 | simonrvn | aptitude install wine |
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| 23:35.29 | simonrvn | aptitude is better for your (machine's) 'health' ;p |
| 23:35.35 | drwahl | :) |
| 23:35.37 | AphisOne | drwahl: this computer newb person I have been helping set up deb, called me up telling me his sound wasn't working, then called back and told me he forgot to turn on the speakers.. I feel like that now |
| 23:35.50 | drwahl | i have never used aptitude... apt has always been my drug of choice |
| 23:36.12 | drwahl | AphisOne: gotta check layer 1 first :) |
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| 23:36.22 | suppaman | damn I had to kill X |
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| 23:37.12 | suppaman | and now I don't have DRI |
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| 23:38.54 | jepeltw | aaaaaaaaaaaah! I just did a fresh, clean install of Debian and upgraded to kernel 2.6.22-3-486 and boot freezes after "init: version 2.86 booting" |
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| 23:40.24 | robin_sz | hmmm |
| 23:40.39 | jepeltw | it booted fine with kernel 2.6.16 |
| 23:40.42 | robin_sz | why is gcc giving me a "cant locate crt1.o" error? |
| 23:40.51 | jepeltw | and...it boots again just fine with 2.6.16 |
| 23:41.23 | jepeltw | robin_sz, do ls /usr/lib/crt1.o and see if it's there |
| 23:41.33 | drwahl | jepeltw: you could try changing the default run level to something like 2. it should load fewer modules, which might be whats causing init to crash |
| 23:42.04 | jepeltw | I think I blame that kernel version |
| 23:42.16 | jepeltw | can I get away with just blacklisting it and going back to the version immediately before? |
| 23:42.34 | drwahl | i dont think you can blacklist init.... |
| 23:42.37 | AMDFreak | should be any damn thing about libata |
| 23:43.18 | jepeltw | drwahl, I mean, blacklist 2.6.22-3-486 |
| 23:43.23 | jepeltw | and then go back to 2.6.22-2-486 |
| 23:43.26 | drwahl | jepeltw: ah :) that makes more sense |
| 23:45.35 | jepeltw | how do I tell dpkg to skip a particular version? |
| 23:45.43 | ugpst | is there a better way of setting screen resolution than putting "xrandr --size 1152x864" in my .xsession? |
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| 23:46.06 | jepeltw | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pick the resolution you want? |
| 23:46.55 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 23:46.59 | jepeltw | aha, I <3 Aptitude |
| 23:47.03 | jepeltw | hi Ace2016 |
| 23:47.15 | Ace2016 | how do i hide the info at the top of the top command |
| 23:48.38 | Ace2016 | top - 23:48:31 up 10:23, 3 users, load average: 1.40, 1.23, 1.20 |
| 23:48.40 | Ace2016 | that stuff |
| 23:48.43 | Ace2016 | how do i hide that??? |
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| 23:50.58 | tnks | Are there any text-based password managers other than pwsafe and pwman3 worth mentioning? |
| 23:50.59 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: dpkg is timing out |
| 23:51.27 | tnks | I'm not settled on either of those two, and very disinterested in a GUI-based password manager. |
| 23:51.44 | Ace2016 | simonrvn: tried changing your repos? |
| 23:53.15 | simonrvn | Ace2016: what are you talking about? |
| 23:53.25 | Ace2016 | run top in the command line |
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| 23:53.31 | Ace2016 | and to hide this stuff: |
| 23:53.56 | Ace2016 | top - 23:53:45 up 10:28, 3 users, load average: 0.13, 0.70, 0.99 |
| 23:53.56 | Ace2016 | Tasks: 153 total, 2 running, 151 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie |
| 23:53.56 | Ace2016 | Cpu(s): 24.8%us, 2.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 72.5%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st |
| 23:54.00 | dacs | how can i use the pdftotext in xpdf-utlis please? |
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| 23:54.15 | zleap | hi |
| 23:54.30 | zleap | i just installed etch and it won't accept my root password |
| 23:54.35 | simonrvn | Ace2016: blah, i'm talking about the bot... |
| 23:54.48 | zleap | can i use a boot disk, and edit /etc/password to remote it |
| 23:54.50 | zleap | ? |
| 23:54.53 | Ace2016 | found it: run top and press t then l then m |
| 23:54.53 | zleap | remove |
| 23:55.10 | simonrvn | zleap: /msg dpkg ifrp ; and it's passwd not password |
| 23:55.26 | Ace2016 | oh dpkg in the channel |
| 23:55.30 | AMDFreak | zleap: something with the charset? Z <> Y |
| 23:55.34 | zleap | yeah sorry |
| 23:55.37 | Ace2016 | !ping dpkg |
| 23:55.46 | zleap | i meant /etc/passwd |
| 23:56.10 | zleap | so can i edit the /etc/passwd file? |
| 23:56.26 | Tramp | Ace2016: hit "ltm" after starting top |
| 23:56.29 | Ace2016 | they i never got a CTCP-Ping reply |
| 23:56.30 | simonrvn | zleap: /msg ravenbird i forgot root's passwd |
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| 23:56.47 | Ace2016 | Tramp: i found the solution ^ |
| 23:57.00 | zleap | i didn't forget it, it just won't work |
| 23:57.07 | zleap | i wrote it down during install |
| 23:57.09 | simonrvn | zleap: could be password for the factoid ;) |
| 23:57.15 | simonrvn | yeh, still aplies |
| 23:57.19 | simonrvn | app* |
| 23:57.21 | zleap | factoid |
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| 23:57.45 | simonrvn | yes, the various tibbits of stuff in the bot's database |
| 23:57.50 | simonrvn | tidbits* |
| 23:57.56 | simonrvn | hullo man_in_shack |
| 23:57.57 | AMDFreak | zleap: take a live CD.. then chroot in your root of your HD Install and do passwd |
| 23:57.57 | peter86 | does debian have some program to make 3d models ? |
| 23:57.58 | man_in_shack | anyone here use evince as pdf viewer? |
| 23:58.29 | zleap | ok i have booted a live cd |
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| 23:58.42 | zleap | do i need to mount root partition |
| 23:58.46 | drwahl | peter86: apt-get install blender |
| 23:58.51 | simonrvn | yes, mounted rw |
| 23:58.56 | AMDFreak | zleap: yes |
| 23:59.02 | simonrvn | do mount -o remount,rw, / |
| 23:59.07 | simonrvn | er drop second , |
| 23:59.17 | JacobH | man_in_shack: yes |
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| 23:59.32 | man_in_shack | sometimes when i view pdfs (using evince-gtk) in web browsers, it doesn't render and i have to delete ~/.config/evince to fix it |
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| 23:59.52 | man_in_shack | i'm wondering if anyone else has the same problem |
| 23:59.56 | simonrvn | one of the reasons i don't look at pdfs in a browser |
