| 00:00.01 | sam_uk | jackd |
| 00:00.22 | sam_uk | sound settings |
| 00:00.22 | riverrun | where is smbclient installed on lenny? |
| 00:00.27 | Rodger | so I can somehow recover a file if I have this file ending with ~? |
| 00:00.43 | sam_uk | abrotman, it did this dpkg -i jackd |
| 00:00.43 | sam_uk | dpkg: error processing jackd (--install): |
| 00:00.44 | dpkg | That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster. |
| 00:00.58 | Ronin | heh |
| 00:01.06 | kgoetz | *grin* |
| 00:01.09 | xand | hello kittens. |
| 00:01.11 | kgoetz | Rodger: open the file ending in ~ |
| 00:01.21 | Rodger | good, let me see |
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| 00:02.17 | Rodger | well, it seems to be missing the last piece of edit I put in |
| 00:02.19 | pj0ta | solid_liq, abrotman : no ideas about change locales env by a non root? |
| 00:02.36 | Rodger | I mean compare to the file without ~ |
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| 00:03.26 | solid_liq | pj0ta, have you tried exporting it? export LC_MESSAGES then running something? |
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| 00:03.35 | solid_liq | pj0ta, ...from the same shell |
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| 00:04.02 | fjfalcon | what is better for etch stable. Compile 2.6.23.12 or use 2.6.22.3 from backport? |
| 00:04.37 | pj0ta | solid_liq, yes, no way |
| 00:04.47 | RichiH | fjfalcon: why do you want to compile your own? |
| 00:05.10 | solid_liq | pj0ta, no way? what do you mean? |
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| 00:05.31 | solid_liq | fjfalcon, use the one from backport, it's much easier to maintain that way |
| 00:05.32 | shamrock` | what other service could be receiving smtp emails? The wrong machine behind my router is getting the incoming emails. There is no exim4 installed on the second machine. My router routes smtp to the machine with exim4 running. But the emails are ending up in my home directory in maildir format on the other machine. |
| 00:05.38 | pj0ta | solid_liq, I mean that it doesn't work, I tried |
| 00:05.58 | solid_liq | pj0ta, hmm, then I dunno, sorry, I only speak English ;) |
| 00:07.42 | pj0ta | solid_liq, I want to set LC_MESSAGES to english. Only that and LANG |
| 00:08.37 | abrotman | pj0ta: in your .bash_profile or .bashrc |
| 00:08.51 | pj0ta | solid_liq, set LANG to english works fine, but, don't know why, LC_MESSAGES remains the same even if I change it |
| 00:09.04 | pj0ta | abrotman, .bashrc |
| 00:09.49 | abrotman | did you export it ? |
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| 00:10.55 | gyaresu | Hi. Anyone got a good link for managing log files. Is it still a combination of logwatch/logrotate and a cron entry? |
| 00:10.58 | pj0ta | abrotman, yes, i did |
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| 00:11.56 | abrotman | gyaresu: likely |
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| 00:13.02 | gyaresu | abrotman: I've not run a server for 12months so just trying to check to see if there's anything 'cool' that's been written in the meantime. Sounds like a no. Google's still got a lot of the 2005 references. |
| 00:13.53 | sadneophyte | hi |
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| 00:17.18 | Facedown | i have mod perl setup, but .pl files aren't being parsed.. I think I need to add the ExecCGI to Options but I don't have any <Directory>'s in my httpd.conf, only VirtualHosts.. what should I do? |
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| 00:27.43 | cizzi | do wireless keyboard and mice work good with debian or linux in general? |
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| 00:28.11 | wols_ | yes. since for the PC they simply work like any other PS/2 or USB keyboard/mouse |
| 00:28.11 | cizzi | tired of getting tangled up with wires |
| 00:28.14 | Zharf | aren't they just regular USB devices with a receiver on the USB side.. |
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| 00:28.24 | Zharf | or ps/2.. |
| 00:28.32 | Zharf | the OS doesn't really have to care about the wireless part |
| 00:28.33 | cizzi | the kernel supports it by default? |
| 00:28.41 | wols_ | yes |
| 00:28.44 | cizzi | nice |
| 00:28.46 | cizzi | i'll order some |
| 00:28.49 | abrotman | depends on the wireless type |
| 00:28.59 | cizzi | logitech i guess |
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| 00:29.02 | cizzi | pretty standard no? |
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| 00:29.15 | wols_ | you will need to buy brand name stuff. wireless peripherals from no name suppliers are iffy. under any OS |
| 00:29.25 | cizzi | yeah |
| 00:29.39 | AnusKy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:29.49 | Alam_Debian | . |
| 00:29.58 | RichiH | klined |
| 00:30.40 | simonrvn | thank you |
| 00:30.48 | RichiH | de nada |
| 00:31.12 | ezc | wtf |
| 00:31.32 | riverrun | where is swat installed by default on lenny? |
| 00:31.34 | sadneophyte | where are the non open source repositories for debian? |
| 00:31.35 | delire | ezc: worse, that's just the beginning. |
| 00:31.36 | LunarCrisis | On this computer the colours are strange when I plug an LCD screen into it, but when I plug the screen into another computer it looks fine. The problem is that all of the very light colours are made much whiter than they should be |
| 00:31.55 | LunarCrisis | I'm using the nvidia drivers |
| 00:32.08 | cizzi | \amethyst - can you recommend a complete thorough book on securing linux servers (debian in particular would be nice too) ? |
| 00:32.16 | wols_ | riverrun: now go an "kline" the guy doing it. I hear canada is lovely this time of the year. do it painfully please |
| 00:32.25 | wols_ | !harden |
| 00:32.25 | dpkg | from memory, harden is D:SbD, or http://d-sbd.alioth.debian.org/, or read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 00:32.34 | wols_ | cizzi: rule #1: don#t run php. ever |
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| 00:32.52 | delire | i learnt that the hard way |
| 00:33.08 | cizzi | any php webpage? |
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| 00:33.17 | wols_ | php |
| 00:33.22 | riverrun | wols_, ? |
| 00:33.24 | cizzi | how come |
| 00:33.42 | wols_ | riverrun: was for RichiH , sorry |
| 00:33.50 | wols_ | riverrun: as for you: dpkg -L is your friend |
| 00:34.00 | riverrun | thanks |
| 00:34.09 | mavhk | because a day when a php related package isn't found to have security holes is designated a national holiday |
| 00:34.17 | delire | cizzi: because providing contexts for SQL injection seems to be it's second most prominent talent. |
| 00:34.19 | cizzi | good reason |
| 00:34.27 | RichiH | wols_: if you pay for the travel |
| 00:34.40 | cizzi | delire - would you say any php webpage is at risk on linux then? |
| 00:34.55 | wols_ | RichiH: just visti Ronin. you get to drink some beer. the travel basically pays for itself |
| 00:34.57 | delire | yes of course. |
| 00:35.51 | cizzi | i'll browse amazon i guess for a book.. i like hard copies rather than online or printed pages when it comes to reading long documentation |
| 00:36.36 | sadneophyte | is backports.org still the standard non free debian repositories? |
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| 00:36.56 | delire | cizzi: you can reduce the attack surface with sensible design but still there are many silly things about PHP that make that work harder. |
| 00:37.23 | delire | anyway, i think i should eat instead of rant. |
| 00:37.50 | abrotman | sadneophyte: those aren't non-free |
| 00:37.54 | cizzi | im sure only certain functions in php are vulnerable |
| 00:37.57 | abrotman | well .. not all of them |
| 00:38.43 | sadneophyte | abrotman thanks for the clarification, they are then non open source, where do i find a clean java installation for debian 3.0r6? |
| 00:38.55 | abrotman | sadneophyte: for woody? |
| 00:38.56 | sadneophyte | sorry 3.2r6? |
| 00:39.04 | abrotman | 3.1r7 ? |
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| 00:39.06 | abrotman | sarge? |
| 00:39.47 | moshii | I need to let users on one server authenticate with exim running on another machine to send mail.. whats the best way of passing authentication data between the machines? |
| 00:39.52 | sadneophyte | sorry, i have written here 3.6r2... sorry, where might i check |
| 00:40.09 | abrotman | cat /etc/debian_Version |
| 00:40.32 | sadneophyte | abrotman scratch all that the install was netinstall 31r6... |
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| 00:40.42 | abrotman | backports.org has a sun-java5 package |
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| 00:41.01 | sadneophyte | abrotman thanks... backports is still well maintained? |
| 00:41.26 | abrotman | i guess so |
| 00:41.44 | abrotman | or you can use java-package |
| 00:41.50 | abrotman | sadneophyte: is this a new install ? |
| 00:42.34 | sadneophyte | abrotman yes it is... just got fluxbox and xchat working... |
| 00:42.56 | abrotman | sadneophyte: why not use etch? |
| 00:43.50 | sadneophyte | 64 meg of ram and etch has kernel 2.6 which has screwed up implementations of modules tulip, de2104x and de4x5 |
| 00:44.11 | minus198 | which characters are allowed in a Linux password? |
| 00:44.21 | sadneophyte | at least for my harware, believe me i tried, lol abrotman |
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| 00:44.30 | minus198 | nvm, found it. |
| 00:44.38 | abrotman | yeah .. i've tried to use tulip and de4x5 in sarge/etch with 2.6 .. didn't go so well |
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| 00:44.52 | abrotman | sadneophyte: just be aware that sarge only has security support for about another year |
| 00:44.53 | sadneophyte | abrotman, the hardware is so old, it seems it only like kernel 2.4 |
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| 00:44.59 | abrotman | sadneophyte: erm .. another four months |
| 00:45.10 | sadneophyte | abrotman, i thought it was already over? |
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| 00:45.15 | abrotman | not yet |
| 00:45.19 | sadneophyte | sweet |
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| 00:45.55 | moshii | sadneophyte: try turning off acpi if your hardware won't boot 2.6 |
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| 00:46.19 | shamrock` | ok. I have email routed correctly! yeeha. But what "terms" do I need to lookup / google in order to have mails to "randomname@myhost.com" delivered to my real email mobx shamrock@myhost.com? (using exim4). |
| 00:46.41 | moshii | shamrock`: aliases |
| 00:46.41 | sadneophyte | moshii it is stupid bosmaster pci isa crap I hate irqs... can't get the ethernet card to work... |
| 00:46.56 | sadneophyte | moshii but kernel 2.4 works great |
| 00:47.10 | moshii | sadneophyte: going to need some kernel options to get it all working then |
| 00:48.01 | sadneophyte | moshii I don't understand? I figure deb 3 is fine, the computer isn't worth the effort it is 233 mhz and 64 meg of ram |
| 00:48.15 | sadneophyte | but xchat works :) |
| 00:48.21 | sadneophyte | and dillo |
| 00:48.36 | moshii | sadneophyte: security suppor is going to end for sarge.. but saying that etch will run on top of 2.4 I think |
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| 00:49.19 | sadneophyte | interesting, i would have never guessed... aren't huge gymungous things changed in 2.6 kernel... like everything under the sun almost... |
| 00:49.50 | moshii | sadneophyte: there have been 2 scheduler changes among other things |
| 00:50.07 | sadneophyte | moshii i think 4 months will be fine :) |
| 00:50.16 | moshii | sadneophyte: things you won't notice on a 233 probably ;) |
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| 00:51.19 | sadneophyte | i just wanna see if i can play a battletech game, but for that i need java (btmux.com) |
| 00:51.31 | sadneophyte | i am sorta doubtful |
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| 00:51.34 | abrotman | you going try ShogoMad |
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| 00:54.01 | K|NgGh0sT | For some reason my motherboard is failing to use the bios to control USB Keyboards, so is there anyway to have the debian cd automatically boot the installer. I havent a way to get around no no USB Keyboard |
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| 00:54.42 | abrotman | some of the mobos have an option for legacy peripherals |
| 00:54.54 | K|NgGh0sT | I can't get into the bios |
| 00:55.32 | cizzi | would wireless keyboard/mouse work with usb 1.1? my p3 doesnt have 2.0 i think, i could always add a card but blah... |
| 00:55.50 | sadneophyte | ohh crap abrotman is debian 31r6 etch? |
| 00:55.51 | moshii | cizzi: that would depend on the device |
| 00:55.55 | abrotman | no |
| 00:56.03 | abrotman | 3.1r7 is sarge |
| 00:56.05 | cizzi | moshii - allright i'll check the speccs |
| 00:56.23 | abrotman | K|NgGh0sT: time to borrow a real keyboard? |
| 00:56.46 | sadneophyte | deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free is problably wrong, i want sarge-backports? |
| 00:56.50 | moshii | cizzi: I think stuff like keyboards are generally usb1.. its not worth the extra electronic to support usb2 when its not needed |
| 00:56.54 | abrotman | sadneophyte: right |
| 00:57.00 | moshii | abrotman: legacy free machine maybe.. |
| 00:57.06 | abrotman | sadneophyte: and make sure you do the pinning stuff |
| 00:57.06 | cizzi | the only diff is the speed |
| 00:57.11 | cizzi | and you dont need speed for that |
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| 00:57.34 | cizzi | you're sending a few bits at a time.. not megabytes lol |
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| 00:58.15 | moshii | cizzi: on the other hand, some chinese company might be pumping out really cheap usb2 chipsets.. so it's going to depend |
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| 01:00.03 | levander | Is there a kernel option to tell the kernel to boot into safe graphics mode? |
| 01:00.22 | cizzi | doh.. i just thought of something.. i dont even use the keyboard on my linux box.. i always ssh... |
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| 01:00.26 | cizzi | so its not even an issue |
| 01:00.32 | cizzi | my main desktop is a vista cpu |
| 01:00.41 | Wyzard | levander: Try video=vga and/or vga=0 |
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| 01:01.07 | cizzi | a computer with the vista os loaded on it lol |
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| 01:01.34 | moshii | does it require some special instruction set to do that?? |
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| 01:02.49 | levander | Wyzard: I'm trying video-vga now. |
| 01:05.42 | levander | Wyzard: apparently, it was the cevesa option... Never heard of that one before. |
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| 01:07.11 | Wyzard | hmm, neither have I |
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| 01:10.59 | levander | I'm looking at some doc's now, apparently they're called "boot options" not "kernel options"... |
| 01:13.11 | minus198 | Can I view a users password via root or can I only change it? |
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| 01:17.17 | breiti | hi |
| 01:17.30 | breiti | does openssh-server needs the old libssl0.9.7? |
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| 01:22.14 | doughie | I am partitioning my hard disk. i should have a partition with about 158gb and it is coming in as 1.3gb . my partition table from fdisk is http://pastebin.com/m69f1a45a |
| 01:22.23 | doughie | any ideas? |
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| 01:26.19 | ronsonol | Compiled ede (equinox wm) and efltk libraries, knowing it would install to /usr/local -- figured, ah, no problem. On execution, it isn't finding its libraries in /usr/local/lib. What's the elegant solution to this? |
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| 01:28.51 | shamrock` | what is the best command line way to see if a certain port is open? I need to check if my mail server IMAP is accessible on 10943. |
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| 01:33.12 | MolePrince | Howdy, any idea why the businesscard iso would run /much/ slower [eg scrolling dmesg] than the netinst one? |
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| 01:33.42 | mike1o | how do print remotely on a gnome printer via ssh? |
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| 01:34.00 | neotic | mike1o: use lpr |
| 01:34.05 | neotic | mike1o: or lprng |
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| 01:34.18 | mike1o | tnx |
| 01:34.28 | shamrock` | how to test connection to imap server on my lan? |
| 01:34.41 | neotic | shamrock`: telnet |
| 01:35.19 | shamrock` | telnet support ssl? |
| 01:36.10 | neotic | shamrock`: telnet-ssl does |
| 01:36.30 | cafuego | Why would you need ssl? |
| 01:36.56 | cafuego | Just see if tcp port 993 answers |
| 01:37.47 | shamrock` | cafuego: why 993? dovecot doesnt touch 993 |
| 01:37.54 | shamrock` | its 10143 and 10943 |
| 01:38.02 | mike1o | neotic, the printer is not installed in cups |
| 01:38.04 | cafuego | No, imaps is 993. |
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| 01:38.30 | cafuego | If you run it on different ports, that's not my fault :-) |
| 01:38.42 | shamrock` | cafuego: could you explain. Why does the config file say 10943 then for the listen port? |
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| 01:39.44 | cafuego | shamrock`: No idea,the normal service defs have imap2 on 143 and imap2s on 993. |
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| 01:40.11 | shamrock` | intestingly I can telnet to 993. How then do I ask it if its the dovecot imap server? |
| 01:40.29 | cafuego | telnet-ssl if you want it to tell you what it is |
| 01:40.35 | MolePrince | What is the best method to install Sid on a new system pleaes? I'm trying the daily testing business card ISO but it's running horribly slow [even things lilke mounting or dmesg], which I haven't had any problems with on the netinst or other versions. |
| 01:40.38 | cafuego | telnet-ssl -z ssl host 993 |
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| 01:41.36 | MolePrince | For that matter, is it even worth installing instead of Etch or Lenny? |
| 01:41.51 | shamrock` | cafuego: yes. it returns dovecot. Thanks, Now I am really puzzled. |
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| 01:44.18 | RhinoAK | how can I find the version of my kernel |
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| 01:44.26 | RhinoAK | and where is it located |
| 01:44.28 | MolePrince | RhinoAK: uname -a |
| 01:44.33 | RhinoAK | ok |
| 01:44.58 | RhinoAK | what is the path to the kernel |
| 01:45.16 | Rodger | what is the "staff" user group for? |
| 01:45.22 | Wyzard | RhinoAK: /boot/vmlinuz* |
| 01:45.46 | shamrock` | I'm all excited. Just got my imap server working on my headless, first ever mailserver :))))) Emacs gnus connecting from my main development machine on the same lan and seenig mail sent to my dyndns host! Love it! |
| 01:45.57 | RhinoAK | you rock dude |
| 01:46.25 | RhinoAK | trying to get this dlink wireless card setup |
| 01:46.42 | RhinoAK | Ubuntu recognizes it but debian etch want |
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| 01:47.46 | abrotman | chipset? |
| 01:48.10 | MolePrince | RhinoAK: Check your dmesg and see if it says anything abuot not being able to load the firmware, if not, you'll need to find/install that as well. |
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| 01:51.09 | minus198 | http://www.ucop.edu/irc/policy/ucop/linuxhosts.html <--- Good reading. |
| 01:52.06 | RhinoAK | MolePrince: nothing about firmware |
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| 01:52.27 | abrotman | RhinoAK: which chipset? |
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| 01:54.30 | pablo | hi, how do i remove a direct access to an app located on the aplications menu? |
| 01:54.40 | shamrock` | can the normal linux command line "mail" talk to maildir or only mbox format? |
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| 01:59.13 | plus_M | Can anyone link me to that page where you paste your lspci -n and it tells you what modules you need? |
| 01:59.41 | abrotman | !which driver |
| 01:59.41 | dpkg | i guess driver locator is To work out what module you need to load for your pci card, try pasting lspci -n into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ . |
| 01:59.51 | plus_M | Thanks |
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| 02:01.59 | dacs | !seen wols |
| 02:01.59 | dpkg | wols <n=klingens@p549DC8CD.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 23h 17m 28s ago, saying: 'drewb: lspci'. |
| 02:02.20 | dacs | wols_: you here? |
| 02:02.47 | dacs | wols_: i am just wondering what did you mean "14:04 < Ronin> h00di3: /msg nickserv help |
| 02:02.51 | dacs | 14:04 < wols_> h00di3 /msg nickserv help" |
| 02:04.57 | abrotman | what's confusing about it .. and why do you keep donig that? |
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| 02:10.51 | minus198 | Is anyone her good at ProFTPd? |
| 02:11.02 | pablo | hi, how do i delete a direct access located on the aplications menue of gnome? |
| 02:12.07 | delire_ | pablo: see #gnome |
| 02:12.31 | delire_ | people here may or may not use Gnome. |
| 02:13.51 | abrotman | pablo: you're being vague .. if you want the app gone ... uninstall it .. |
| 02:14.26 | pablo | abrotman: but it wasnt installed with apt or dpkg |
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| 02:14.40 | abrotman | what is it .. how was it installed? |
| 02:15.08 | tvynr | I have two computers here running Debian Etch which seem to be having a similar problem: the symlink /dev/dvd isn't being created. |
| 02:15.14 | pablo | abrotman: it had a sh script and i dindt need to be root |
| 02:15.17 | tvynr | My own workstation does not have this difficulty. |
| 02:15.21 | abrotman | huh? |
| 02:15.26 | tvynr | Anyone have any idea what could cause this? Cursory Google produces nothing. |
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| 02:16.04 | minus198 | pablo, go to where you have the script located. and do: ./thing.sh uninstall |
| 02:16.08 | minus198 | should do the trick |
| 02:16.35 | pablo | minus198: ok let me see |
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| 02:16.41 | delire_ | minus198: assuming the script has an uninstall function |
| 02:16.50 | minus198 | delire_, Yeah |
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| 02:19.07 | tvynr | Anyone have any ideas about the /dev/dvd thing? I'm VNCed into this guy's box and I'm having to watch him play Tetris. Badly. |
| 02:19.11 | abrotman | tvynr: is /dev/cdrom pointing to the right place?> |
| 02:19.24 | tvynr | abrotman: /dev/cdrom2 is pointing to /dev/hda |
| 02:19.34 | tvynr | abrotman: neither /dev/dvd nor /dev/cdrom exist :-/ |
| 02:19.45 | tvynr | abrotman: On another computer, there is no /dev/dvd but there is a /dev/dvd1 |
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| 02:19.53 | abrotman | udev maybe does it ? |
| 02:19.55 | tvynr | abrotman: (I'm hoping those two problems are related) |
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| 02:20.16 | tvynr | abrotman: I should think so as well... but, to my knowledge, nothing has been manipulated in /etc/udev* |
| 02:20.32 | tvynr | abrotman: Emphasis: to my knowledge. |
| 02:20.35 | Wyzard | tvynr: See /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-cd.rules |
| 02:20.41 | tvynr | Wyzard: Will do, thanks. |
| 02:21.15 | delire_ | docs: you can query the freenode NickServer using /msg nickserv keyword . in the example above 'help' was the keyword. |
| 02:21.37 | abrotman | misfire |
| 02:21.52 | abrotman | and really not worth it |
| 02:21.58 | tvynr | Wyzard: This appears to be an autogenerated file. I'm guessing the installation of the udev package did that. Do you suppose I can dpkg-reconfigure udev to make the world a happy place again? |
| 02:22.13 | delire_ | abrotman: true. i didn't tab-complete that short nick. |
| 02:22.16 | Wyzard | tvynr: It's autogenerated, but not at package installation time |
| 02:22.25 | Wyzard | tvynr: Entries are added when new hardware is detected |
| 02:22.41 | tvynr | Wyzard: Ah. Any idea how I can autogenerate that? Or should I hit up Google again? |
| 02:23.03 | Wyzard | tvynr: You can edit the existing lines to your liking, or delete them and they'll be added again as if you'd just plugged in the drive for the first time |
| 02:23.05 | tvynr | Wyzard: ! lemme guess... this has happened because both of these machines have had their hardware monkeyed with... and new optical drives have been put in? |
| 02:23.22 | tvynr | Wyzard: Cool. I'm guessing one would have to restart the udev service to make that happen, though, yes? |
| 02:23.36 | Wyzard | tvynr: You had a drive that was /dev/dvd or /dev/dvd0, then put in another drive that became /dev/dvd1, then removed the /dev/dvd0 one |
| 02:23.42 | Wyzard | tvynr: run udevtrigger after you make changes |
| 02:23.56 | tvynr | Wyzard: 'kay. Will do... thanks so very very much! :) |
| 02:23.59 | Wyzard | tvynr: that tells udev to rescan the available hardware, I believe |
| 02:24.27 | Wyzard | tvynr: btw, z25_persistent-net.rules does the same thing for network interfaces, in case you ever find yourself with an eth1 but no eth0 |
| 02:24.44 | tvynr | Wyzard: Oh. Wow. Dude, thanks... I've got another friend with that problem. |
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| 02:28.51 | tvynr | Wyzard: worked wonderfully. Thank you again! |
| 02:29.45 | pablo | minus198: no it doesnt works |
| 02:29.49 | ronsonol | Compiled ede (equinox wm) and efltk libraries, installing the whole thing to /usr/local. Errors on execution, finding no such libraries that are located in /usr/local/lib. Do i gotta run ldconfig or something? |
| 02:30.08 | minus198 | pablo, Then I don't know what you should do.. |
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| 02:31.47 | pablo | minus198: ok |
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| 02:32.44 | brif8 | update-initramfs keeps trying to build with the wrong kernel version. Where is this saved, so I can correct it I have to specify the kernel with -k but other packages like usplash don't do that ? |
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| 02:34.14 | Wyzard | brif8: Most things that trigger initramfs to be rebuilt will rebuild it for all kernels that are installed, not just one |
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| 02:36.05 | brif8 | Wyzard: it constantly stops with /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-3-686 does not exist. Cannot update. I'm using and running 2.6.18-5-686 and it doesn't touch it ? |
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| 02:36.22 | Ryan52 | Ubuntu has a package called oem-config. Is there something similar to that on debian? |
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| 02:36.30 | DrCode | hi all |
| 02:36.51 | abrotman | Ryan52: which does ? |
| 02:36.52 | c01100011 | ::offtopic:: General electronic hardware question: my laptop is not getting power when plugged into the wall, i think the adaptor is faulty. I don't have a multimeter at hand. I don't mind ruining the adaptor if it isn't faulty [ as i already purchased it's replacement] , can i short it and see if it gets hot... would that be a viable (multimeter-less) test |
| 02:36.55 | DrCode | I am looking for update debian with 0 installed applictions , is there such dist? |
| 02:37.01 | DrCode | only console mode |
| 02:37.03 | Wyzard | brif8: Is there a vmlinuz-2.6.22-3-686 in your /boot? |
| 02:37.07 | abrotman | c01100011: ##hardware or ##electronics |
| 02:37.33 | Wyzard | DrCode: You can install a minimal console-only Debian system with the normal Debian installer |
| 02:37.44 | Ryan52 | abrotman: Its for oems to make a system with ubuntu on it. Then when the customer buys it it reasks some of the installer questions, like username and password, timezone, etc |
| 02:37.46 | brif8 | no |
| 02:37.52 | minus198 | c01100011, Test it with a lamp :P |
| 02:38.03 | Wyzard | brif8: What vmlinuz files do you have in /boot? |
| 02:38.16 | brif8 | only vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686 |
| 02:38.25 | abrotman | Ryan52: i have no idea .. check packages.debian.org/oem |
| 02:38.36 | Wyzard | hmm... dunno why it'd be trying to generate that initramfs then |
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| 02:39.02 | Wyzard | Ryan52: I don't think there's such a thing for Debian |
| 02:39.06 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 02:39.09 | c01100011 | minus198: tested it with an led expecting it to blow, and nothing, thinking of testing it with my tounge to be sure it's dead |
| 02:39.10 | brif8 | Wyzard: the only thing I can think of is there is a file with config setting or something .... ? |
| 02:39.16 | Ryan52 | okay, thanks |
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| 02:40.03 | Wyzard | brif8: not that I know of |
| 02:40.05 | DrCode | how can I install minial |
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| 02:40.19 | DrCode | it load live cd , so I can install all? |
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| 02:40.57 | DrCode | I didn't use debian before, I use ubtuntu |
| 02:40.57 | Wyzard | DrCode: Debian's installation CD is not a liveCD |
| 02:41.02 | DrCode | k |
| 02:41.06 | DrCode | not like in ubuntu |
| 02:41.13 | Wyzard | correct |
| 02:41.17 | DrCode | wow, nice |
| 02:41.29 | Wyzard | DrCode: Debian's installation CD is similar to Ubuntu's "alternate" installation CD, if you're familiar with that |
| 02:41.29 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 02:41.30 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now Testing! |
| 02:41.43 | minus198 | c01100011, I wouldn't recommend that :P |
| 02:42.00 | DrCode | so I can also do the same in ubuntu? |
| 02:42.03 | DrCode | install minimal? |
| 02:42.04 | minus198 | c01100011, But if the led didn't glow, its is quite surely dead. :P |
| 02:42.25 | Wyzard | DrCode: yes, you can install a minimal console Ubuntu system too |
| 02:42.30 | DrCode | wow |
| 02:42.33 | DrCode | I didnt know |
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| 02:42.35 | minus198 | DrCode, Yes, but only with the Server CD I think |
| 02:42.35 | Wyzard | DrCode: but #ubuntu is the place to ask about that, not here |
| 02:42.36 | DrCode | thanx Wyzard |
| 02:42.39 | DrCode | yes |
| 02:42.45 | DrCode | I will try debian |
| 02:42.53 | minus198 | Debian is better than Ubuntu.. |
| 02:42.58 | minus198 | At least on the server. |
| 02:43.10 | Wyzard | On the server, yes |
| 02:43.14 | Wyzard | On the desktop, not so much |
| 02:43.30 | minus198 | Well.. It depends on what you want. |
| 02:43.52 | minus198 | Ubuntu is boring as hell on the Desktop, cause everything just works basically. Debian needs a bit of "hacking" :P |
| 02:43.58 | minus198 | So debian is more fun. :) |
| 02:44.25 | john_scrotum | debian just works. |
| 02:44.25 | Penix | yeah, because no one actually has a use for their computer. they just wanna frig around with it all the time |
| 02:44.33 | moshii | mina: just worked here thanks |
| 02:44.43 | john_scrotum | i use debian etch on a server and it just works. |
| 02:44.53 | abrotman | well .. if you're all so bored .. one of you can figure out wtf is wrong with my winmodem :) |
| 02:45.02 | john_scrotum | i use debian testing on a desktop and it just works. |
| 02:45.06 | Penix | abrotman: it's a winmodem ;) |
| 02:45.20 | moshii | Penix: even worse, it's a modem |
| 02:45.29 | Penix | hmm. wonder if I've still got my trusty old lucent winmodem |
| 02:45.34 | abrotman | Penix: it used to work .. then they switched to the stupid alsa snd_intel8x0m instead of sl-modem-source |
| 02:46.31 | dacs | delire_: i know but i never ask for it |
| 02:46.45 | abrotman | wtf |
| 02:46.50 | dacs | 18:20 < delire_> abrotman: true. i didn't tab-complete that short nick. |
| 02:47.00 | dacs | why is this highlighted |
| 02:47.04 | c01100011 | minus198: thanks for telling me what i wanted to hear, i have limited electronics knowledge, and wanted to make sure it would supply some sort of power without a load. I can now sleep knowing it is likely just a dead AC adaptor, not a costly motherboard issue |
| 02:47.07 | abrotman | dacs: why do you ask everytime someone tells someone else to /msg nickserv help ? |
| 02:47.07 | minus198 | john_scrotum, Not really.. I'm a bit irritated over the whole "10 days pakage" policy or whatever it is.. VLC as an example isn't in Lenny due to this. |
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| 02:47.42 | minus198 | c01100011, Though just one thing. Did you test the LED both ways? Cause the LED depends on polarity. |
| 02:47.55 | dacs | abrotman: because i highlighs as if there had my name |
| 02:48.03 | dacs | i was just asking abrotman |
| 02:48.07 | abrotman | your name is "/msg nickserv help" ? |
| 02:48.13 | moshii | minus198: um that's called "testing" you twit |
| 02:48.27 | dacs | abrotman: no funny guy |
| 02:48.28 | john_scrotum | minus198: i don't use vlc. i use mplayer. and mplayer just won the hungarian award for best media viewer. |
| 02:48.29 | dacs | :) |
| 02:48.36 | abrotman | dacs: then why the hell do you care? |
| 02:48.55 | twiggz | I like vlc. |
| 02:48.56 | \amethyst | minus198: according to packages.debian.org vlc is in lenny, at the same version as in sid. Maybe it just migrated |
| 02:49.10 | dacs | abrotman: you right , i just thought ....never mind then |
| 02:49.23 | minus198 | john_scrotum, I agree on that MPlayer is great. But it lacks a GUI. I know that there is a GUI for it, but when I've tested it, it cant play some formats all of a sudden.. |
| 02:49.26 | abrotman | now i see the problem :) |
| 02:49.27 | c01100011 | minus198: tested both ways, tested with just a wire, and it didn't blow up. So it is pretty aparant no voltage, correct ? |
| 02:49.30 | moshii | mmm I'm user sasl to do smtp-auth, I don't think it's reading /etc/pam.d/smtp.. the auth log shows service="" :/ |
| 02:49.44 | minus198 | \amethyst, Its possible. But a month ago it wasn't :P |
| 02:50.08 | moshii | c01100011: it's not the voltage that kills.. ;) |
| 02:50.16 | twiggz | not to mention mplayers gui doesnt make use of like 50% of its cli functions... |
| 02:50.32 | twiggz | to make mplayer halfassed useful you need a command like a mile long... |
| 02:50.49 | dacs | abrotman: what problem? |
| 02:51.17 | moshii | minus198: you realise debian has these things called "policies" that stop stuff "getting fucked up".. if you don't like it "get involved" |
| 02:51.24 | twiggz | dinner bbl. |
| 02:51.56 | john_scrotum | minus198: I use a gui with mplayer and I don't have any problems. I sometimes prefer to use mplayer from a terminal because it logs error messages to the terminal window instead of interrupting the playback with a popup... Otherwise, I have absolutely no problems using mplayer with the gui. |
| 02:51.56 | minus198 | c01100011, Yes.. |
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| 02:52.15 | c01100011 | moshii: yeah, someone in ubuntu-offtopic told me i was going to blow myself up because the voltage may have dropped to 0 but amperage spiked |
| 02:52.25 | minus198 | john_scrotum, Well.. After hearing that I might just as well try it :P |
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| 02:52.41 | moshii | c01100011: you aren't blindly sticking wires into stuff are you? |
| 02:53.01 | minus198 | moshii, I know.. But its testing, so why cant things be a bit fucked up? Or do you consider that to be Unstable? |
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| 02:54.13 | moshii | minus198: whats the point of having two "unstable" dists? |
| 02:54.17 | john_scrotum | minus198: I'm not trying to convert you; I really don't care what you use. We all have our preferences. The stuff that I prefer to use typically just works. That's all that I was saying. |
| 02:54.20 | minus198 | moshii, its a poweradapter to a laptop. So its only 2 wires. |
| 02:54.28 | minus198 | only has * |
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| 02:55.00 | moshii | minus198: unstable is called unstable because the packages it contains changes.. if testing was exactly the same, whats the point in having testing the first placE? |
| 02:55.49 | minus198 | john_scrotum, The only reason why I like VLC is due to the GUI and that I've hade problems with mplayers GUI. MPlayer is superior when it comes to playing videos. Theirs codecs or whatever makes it awesome... |
| 02:55.58 | moshii | minus198: I haven't seen a laptop charger with only two pins for a while.. unless you mean the 240v end? ;) |
| 02:56.22 | c01100011 | moshii: pin and barel |
| 02:56.33 | minus198 | moshii, what c01100011 said |
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| 02:56.49 | moshii | c01100011: you want a device called a multimeter |
| 02:57.03 | minus198 | moshii, But he doesn't have one. |
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| 02:57.30 | moshii | minus198: shorting the terminals isn't going to get him very far though |
| 02:57.31 | john_scrotum | unstable is the only branch I've ever used that sometimes just 'didn't work'... I've never had a problem with testing... And when I have had a problem with testing, it is generally fixed within a couple of days or so. |
| 02:57.38 | d0uglas | msql version overflow and worm propagation attempts, ones that would wake up snort, are they probably illegal under US law? and is it illegal for me to portscan the IPs detected? |
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| 02:58.10 | minus198 | moshii, He just wants to know if it is broken.. And he doesn't even mind if he destroys it cause he has already bought a new one. |
| 02:58.33 | abrotman | d0uglas: huh ? |
| 02:58.38 | moshii | minus198: well, in that case plug it into the laptop,.. |
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| 02:58.54 | moshii | minus198: they psu is likely to detect a short and turn itself off anyhow |
| 02:59.06 | abrotman | d0uglas: lots of things are illegal under US law .. but IIRC the FBI only cares if it costs your company >10k or some crap |
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| 02:59.45 | moshii | minus198: the apc travel supply I have even turns itself off if it gets hot.. things rent as stupid as they used to be ;) |
| 03:00.00 | minus198 | :P |
| 03:00.09 | d0uglas | gotchya .. just curious. installed snort and i'm getting a little excited |
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| 03:00.42 | minus198 | d0uglas, if you are going to try and hack AP's you should probably want to install wireshark and kismet |
| 03:00.46 | minus198 | too* |
| 03:01.06 | moshii | or just get it over and done with.. aircrack |
| 03:01.08 | d0uglas | not sure how that's related but kismet is fun |
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| 03:02.41 | minus198 | d0uglas, ehm.. I don't know.. I mixed up "aircrack" with "snort" some how... |
| 03:02.52 | minus198 | Thought "aircrack" was called "airsnort" |
| 03:03.02 | minus198 | I'm tired anyhow.. so.. |
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| 03:04.23 | d0uglas | maybe you were thinking airsnort |
| 03:04.51 | kaxi | i installed a debian base with xorg and i want to install a minimal kde system, what packages are required? i want to avoid install all of kde (in other words i don't want to do an apt-get install kde) |
| 03:05.11 | minus198 | d0uglas, Maybe I was... xD |
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| 03:06.03 | minus198 | kaxi, I don't think there is any other way... |
| 03:06.13 | moshii | kaxi: kde-core is there I think |
| 03:06.32 | kaxi | moshii is kde-core actually kde though? |
| 03:06.49 | kaxi | moshii or is that just a package that is required to run kde applications with actually having kde installed? |
| 03:06.58 | kaxi | i'm basically looking for kde's klicker |
| 03:07.02 | xuser | how can i get a "1440x900" resolution in kde? I change modes to "1440x900" in xorg.conf but nothing, any ideas? |
| 03:07.02 | moshii | kaxi: Yes, true to the meaning of kDE |
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| 03:07.26 | Facedown | is debian 4.0 etch suitable for a desktop? |
| 03:07.30 | moshii | kaxi: if you install a kde application it will pull in the libs your need to run it |
| 03:07.37 | twiggz | Facedown: yes. |
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| 03:07.43 | moshii | kaxi: kde apps will run outside of kde.. |
| 03:07.49 | Facedown | <- linux newb, on windows xp, have used ubuntu for a month or two |
| 03:07.54 | Facedown | do you suggest trying debian? |
| 03:07.58 | minus198 | xuser, have you restarted Xorg? |
| 03:08.03 | d0uglas | are there a lot of bot-generated sql attacks on random IPs floating around? |
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| 03:08.10 | xuser | minus198: yes |
| 03:08.40 | minus198 | Facedown, Sure, why not! My tip is to install Debian Lenny in that case. |
| 03:08.50 | kaxi | moshii right, i'm not really interested in running kde applications so much as having the klicker |
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| 03:09.21 | funbags | Hello all, does anyone have a few min to help me nail down a problem so I can post it to the message boards / lists for additional help? Its a freezing issue, however I can not sure what logs I should post... |
| 03:09.32 | cafuego | d0uglas: Not really'); DROP TABLE botlog; -- |
| 03:09.39 | MolePrince | When I run fdisk -l it says some of my parititions don't end on cylindar boundaries. How do I fix this please? |
| 03:10.04 | minus198 | xuser, upload your xorg.conf to www.pastebin.com |
| 03:10.06 | cafuego | MolePrince: it's not a bug, and as such doesn't need fixing. |
| 03:10.15 | minus198 | Facedown, What kind of processor do you have? |
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| 03:11.00 | uchobby | Is there something like remote desktop for linux? I have VM Debian and like it, learning linux. I would like to setup a Debian box and us my XP to remote to it. Is that posible? |
| 03:11.09 | uchobby | Where do I go to learn about this |
| 03:11.16 | cafuego | uchobby: vnc |
| 03:11.25 | fignew | ssh ;D |
| 03:11.25 | uchobby | OK, I have used vnc.. |
| 03:11.34 | cafuego | or ssh, true. |
| 03:11.35 | abrotman | X over ssh |
| 03:11.40 | \amethyst | uchobby: xrdp |
| 03:11.41 | abrotman | i think there is now rdp servers in gnome and kde |
| 03:11.46 | uchobby | How X over ssh or xrdp? |
| 03:11.46 | \amethyst | uchobby: It's a remote desktop server |
| 03:11.50 | cafuego | linux is pretty much 100% network transparent, whatever you xna do locally you can do remotely. |
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| 03:12.08 | cafuego | though I wouldn't recommend running win games in wine over say xdmcp or vnc. |
| 03:12.25 | abrotman | heh |
| 03:12.36 | thechef | sometimes that works good |
| 03:12.49 | cafuego | s/games/FPS games/ |
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| 03:13.06 | thechef | I can play nexuiz over ssh with >30 fps |
| 03:13.06 | funbags | Anyone have issues in the past with your box freezing under high disk usage (sata drive) ? |
| 03:13.32 | cafuego | thechef: and hardly any lag, eh |
| 03:13.38 | thechef | what lag? |
| 03:13.52 | Wyzard | funbags: not freezing completely, but when I do lots of writing to disk, things get noticeably sluggish |
| 03:13.56 | thechef | try it yourself :D |
| 03:14.08 | Facedown | minus198: c2d e6300 |
| 03:14.16 | Facedown | minus198: 7600 gt gfx |
| 03:14.23 | funbags | Wyzard, hrm, this is a all out freeze im having, and caint figure it out |
| 03:14.24 | ftp3 | I am looking for a tutorial on creating a public nfs share.. anyone know of one? (using debian etch) |
| 03:15.05 | cafuego | funbags: is the sata controller sharing interrupts with other hardware>? |
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| 03:15.19 | uchobby | \amethyst Synaptic does not find xrdp |
| 03:15.21 | jamesnvc | Hello |
| 03:15.24 | funbags | cafuego, thats a good question, i am not sure. |
| 03:15.38 | \amethyst | uchobby: oh, it seems it's not in etch :( |
| 03:15.40 | minus198 | Facedown, That'll work great :) |
| 03:15.41 | funbags | cafuego, its the onboard sata controller |
| 03:15.50 | abrotman | probably then |
| 03:15.53 | cafuego | funbags: cat /proc/interrupts |
| 03:16.26 | cafuego | funbags: My mythtv box used to hang all the time with the tuner card and network card sharing an interrupt (what with storage on remote nfs...) |
| 03:16.30 | jamesnvc | I'm running Debian unstable/testing on a new T61 thinkpad, and the AGN wireless isn't working: it is detected, but never finds any networks, even when I know there are networks |
| 03:16.41 | jamesnvc | Can anyone help me? |
| 03:16.53 | minus198 | Facedown, Just gonna find a link for you with the latest Debian Lenny image |
| 03:16.55 | MolePrince | cafuego: I've been trying to get lphdisk to create a hibernation partition, and it says my parition table is bad so I was wondering if that might be why |
| 03:16.56 | funbags | cafuego, i see libata? |
| 03:17.01 | abrotman | jamesnvc: did you the put the firmware in place? |
| 03:17.32 | funbags | cafuego, here is the line: 22: 19196 19126 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata, libata, HDA Intel |
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| 03:17.54 | Facedown | Lenny? |
| 03:18.06 | jamesnvc | abrotman: Yeah, I have iwlwifi-4965.ucode in /lib/firmware |
| 03:18.09 | cafuego | funbags: Hmm... |
| 03:18.19 | minus198 | Facedown, Its the testing version of Debian. |
| 03:18.39 | cizzi | is there an online computer book store like there's newegg.com for computer hardware? other than amazon of course |
| 03:18.51 | cafuego | MolePrince: I suppose... seems odd though, it shoujldn't normally interfere with anything but the openbsd fdisk, which just whines and moans. |
| 03:19.04 | gouki | guys, I'm having a weird problem. When I launched a script manually, everythings works. when cron does it, only 1/3 of the things get done. (paths are all correct on cron) |
| 03:19.10 | d0uglas | php4 always gives me errors about this - Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20050606/gd.so. I googled and found similar errors but no solutions in forums. |
| 03:19.20 | d0uglas | Should i just fire up php5? |
| 03:19.22 | minus198 | Facedown, It isn't really necessary to run the stabe version of a a distribution on a desktop. |
| 03:19.28 | jamesnvc | iwl4965 and mac80211 are modprobed and everything...also, when I do ifconfig wlan0 up, I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory" |
| 03:19.40 | cafuego | d0uglas: Does file file /usr/lib/php4/20050606/gd.so exist? |
| 03:19.42 | minus198 | Gah! I hate the Debian page. I cant find the friggin Lenny Netinstall ISO |
| 03:20.24 | d0uglas | cafuego: no, but imap.so, ldap.so, mysql.so and pgsql.so do in that dir |
| 03:20.27 | uchobby | I find lots of links on Google for ssh from windows to linux. any sugestions on which I should follow? |
| 03:20.43 | d0uglas | should i touch the file? |
| 03:21.02 | MolePrince | uchobby: I've always liked putty |
| 03:21.18 | cafuego | d0uglas: Ok, so just tell php to not laod gd.so in the appropriate ini file. |
| 03:21.20 | deadcat | xterm's mouse cursor becomes a little + when i type instead of the line. when did this changed or any reason? |
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| 03:21.30 | cafuego | d0uglas: /etc/php4/ |
| 03:21.30 | d0uglas | ok thanks |
| 03:21.34 | uchobby | Thanks MolePrince |
| 03:21.39 | Wyzard | uchobby: http://ftp.ssh.com/pub/ssh/ has a non-free but pretty decent client that's free-of-charge for personal use |
| 03:21.46 | cafuego | it'll have "extension=gd.so" |
| 03:21.53 | cafuego | Just comment that line |
| 03:22.10 | \amethyst | minus198: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 03:22.38 | uchobby | thanks Wyzard |
| 03:23.35 | jamesnvc | Can anyone help with wireless issue with a T61 thinkpad? |
| 03:23.41 | d0uglas | cafuego: i think these errors started getting mailed when i tried to get horde3 running, something i'd still like to do. Am i gonna need gd.so for anything web-interface mail-related? |
| 03:23.58 | cafuego | d0uglas: No, gd is a dynamic image generation library. |
| 03:24.00 | minus198 | \amethyst, Gah.. I was on the page before.. But it looked like it was Etch ISOs. |
| 03:24.04 | minus198 | Thanks \amethyst |
| 03:24.08 | cafuego | d0uglas: Of course, you COULD install php4-gd. |
| 03:24.14 | minus198 | Facedown, So: Download this: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
| 03:24.29 | d0uglas | same thing for mycrypt.so, forgot to mention that, i'll do the same |
| 03:24.51 | d0uglas | mcrypt |
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| 03:25.28 | d0uglas | ahh nice.. commented the two and now it's fine. thanks cafuego. |
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| 03:27.02 | d0uglas | even nicer, apted in the two packages, uncommented, no php4 errors |
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| 03:30.15 | minus198 | Is someone up for some netris? :P |
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| 03:32.21 | jamesnvc | I'm running Debian unstable/testing on a new T61 thinkpad, and the AGN wireless isn't working: it is detected, but never finds any networks, even when I know there are networks...can anyone help, please? |
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| 03:35.07 | abrotman | jamesnvc: did you the put the firmware in place? |
| 03:35.12 | abrotman | oh .. nevermind |
| 03:35.23 | abrotman | jamesnvc: you sure the firmware is being loaded ? |
| 03:35.53 | jamesnvc | abrotman: How can I tell? |
| 03:36.02 | minus198 | dmesg? |
| 03:36.05 | jamesnvc | The modules are in, when I lsmod |
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| 03:36.18 | jamesnvc | hm |
| 03:36.19 | abrotman | the modules go in anyways .. look in dmesg |
| 03:36.20 | jamesnvc | iwl4965: iwlwifi-4965-1.ucode firmware file req failed: Reason -2 |
| 03:36.26 | Noboru | hi guys. |
| 03:36.31 | jamesnvc | iwl4965: Could not read microcode: -2 |
| 03:36.33 | minus198 | Noboru, Hi |
| 03:37.26 | abrotman | sounds bad! |
| 03:37.54 | jamesnvc | Yeah...I tried Google, but couldn't find anything usefull |
| 03:38.21 | abrotman | !ipw4945 |
| 03:38.24 | abrotman | erm ... |
| 03:38.46 | abrotman | !ipw4965 |
| 03:38.46 | dpkg | somebody said iwlwifi was the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets (http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi). Included in mainline 2.6.24 kernel and Debian 2.6.23 kernels ("modprobe iwl4965"). Binary regulatory daemon not required, but difficult to get working with kernels < 2.6.21. Firmware provided by the 'firmware-iwlwifi' package (lenny/sid). HOWTO at http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/debian/iwlwifi |
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| 03:39.45 | jamesnvc | I'm running kernel 2.6.23 |
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| 03:40.49 | abrotman | so install the firmware-iwlwifi package |
| 03:41.30 | jamesnvc | just finished apt-getting it |
| 03:42.37 | jamesnvc | Would I have to reboot? |
| 03:42.50 | jamesnvc | Or can I restart the networking service, would you think? |
| 03:43.10 | abrotman | uhm .. at least modprobe -r <driversforwifi> and then re-modprobe them |
| 03:43.15 | dell_lin | how do i run/check on network packets on router device or on router (192.168.1.1 is router and 192.168.1.2 is linksys pap2t and 192.168.1.x is linux system ) and how do i check which port are open on router connected device |
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| 03:43.22 | Noboru | hi abrotman :( |
| 03:43.33 | d0uglas | if someone took a picture of a vessel at sea my company operates, do i need their permission to use it? |
| 03:43.37 | abrotman | hi' |
| 03:43.46 | abrotman | d0uglas: wrong channel |
| 03:43.52 | jamesnvc | dell_lin: Try wireshark? |
| 03:43.59 | jamesnvc | Or nmap? |
| 03:44.08 | jamesnvc | dell_lin: Probably nmap |
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| 03:44.31 | minus198 | d0uglas, Probably... |
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| 03:44.38 | ootput | d0uglas: depends on which laws govern your particular area on the globe |
| 03:44.41 | Noboru | abrotman, please help me :( |
| 03:44.50 | abrotman | did you ask a qusetoin? |
| 03:44.58 | dell_lin | jamesnvc: how ? nmap -xxxxx ? |
| 03:45.11 | ootput | abrotman: he obviously holds you in high regard |
| 03:45.12 | Noboru | abrotman, now i reboot i have this thing on screen ,without typeing in 'exit',it wont boot into grub menu , http://pastebin.ca/844726 |
| 03:45.17 | ootput | telepathy |
| 03:45.23 | Wyzard | d0uglas: You'd probably need permission if you wanted to use it in an advertisement or something, but not just to show to people |
| 03:45.40 | abrotman | Noboru: i don't have an EFI system |
| 03:45.42 | dell_lin | i am able to run wirshark (ethereal) but it does not scan router traffic |
| 03:45.52 | Noboru | abrotman, the service men in data-centre tried to clean up bios,from then on,this stuff appear |
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| 03:46.02 | jamesnvc | dell_lin: nmap 192.168.1.1 or the IP should do it |
| 03:46.08 | abrotman | clean up the bios ? |
| 03:46.08 | d0uglas | hmm.. i'll take it to #help on efnet but thank you wyzard and ootput. I just want to put it on our fleet list page. |
| 03:46.09 | ootput | Noboru: then it's a bios security feature |
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| 03:46.15 | Noboru | abrotman, i mean,i dont even know what that EFI is. is that BIOS related ? |
| 03:46.19 | d0uglas | tracking down the owner would take some lucky googling |
| 03:46.29 | Noboru | ootput, oh ? |
| 03:46.32 | ootput | Noboru: fuel injection |
| 03:46.49 | Noboru | ootput, i dont understand,sorry,hmm |
| 03:46.58 | Wyzard | d0uglas: You took a picture of your company's own ship and you want to put it on the company's own website? |
| 03:47.11 | ootput | Noboru: I was kidding. Refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface |
| 03:47.47 | d0uglas | no, someone else did and put it on some forum site for maritime fanatics |
| 03:47.47 | Wyzard | d0uglas: You probably need permission for anything you put on the company's website, but the company doesn't need to ask itself permission to use its own picture |
| 03:47.47 | Noboru | ootput, i mean,i didn't have this EFI message on boot before. |
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| 03:48.01 | ootput | Noboru: I'd ask the servicemen in the datacentre |
| 03:48.12 | jamesnvc | abrotman: I tried "sudo modprobe -r iwl4965 mac80211" the command isn't terminating...not responding to ^C, kill, or kill -9 |
| 03:48.14 | ootput | Noboru: it sounds as if they reset the bios, and forgot to change a few values |
| 03:48.18 | Noboru | ootput, ask them about what ? |
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| 03:48.28 | abrotman | jamesnvc: it's waiting for something i guess |
| 03:48.43 | d0uglas | i want to ask this person but if i do i risk that person saying no or asking for a lot of money, i also risk plausible deniability regarding a potentially gray legal area |
| 03:48.45 | Noboru | ootput, The board is Intel S3000ah with Xeon processor. |
| 03:48.55 | ootput | I've no dealings with it in the past |
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| 03:49.05 | abrotman | at least .. i don't think i have an EFI system |
| 03:49.07 | ootput | Sorry mate, but all of my systems are pre-barton |
| 03:49.30 | Noboru | ootput, hmm,you mean ask them about how they have reset the BIOS ? |
| 03:49.53 | ootput | Noboru: I'd ask them what they fiddled with in the bios, and if they resorted to a 'reset to default values' |
| 03:50.10 | d0uglas | Wyzard: let's say i got a picture that was posted in a forum with no apparent sign of a copyright.. different story maybe? |
| 03:50.12 | Noboru | ootput, you misunderstood |
| 03:50.15 | ootput | Noboru: and then proceed to tear 'em a new one for having done that without notifying you |
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| 03:50.41 | ootput | Noboru: perhaps |
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| 03:50.56 | jamesnvc | abrotman: Thank you for your help, I'm going to just restart and see if it works |
| 03:51.08 | Noboru | ootput, i think they have just tried to reset bios by setting up jumpers on the board,and they couldn't enter in BIOS configure menu,cuz i have password set,and even after they have done it,they told me,they cannot enter in bios menu,cuz the password is still there. |
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| 03:51.20 | Wyzard | d0uglas: If someone else took the picture then you'd need permission |
| 03:51.42 | ootput | Noboru: they won't need your password if they're shifting jumpers to reset the bios |
| 03:51.56 | d0uglas | man can't you just tell me what i want to hear so i can say someone in irc said it was probably okay |
| 03:52.02 | ootput | and that password that's 'still there' is probably just a default thing |
| 03:52.18 | ootput | Noboru: sorry mate, I'm out of time. good luck |
| 03:52.44 | Noboru | ootput, but the reseller of this board told me,reset BIOS wont clean up the password protection. this is different from the BIOS for desktops' |
| 03:52.44 | dansushi | i'm having an issue with my flash drive. When i plug it in, it doesn't come up in system:/media like it used to. Also, is this the right place to be asking this? |
| 03:54.27 | Wyzard | Noboru: Thinkpad? |
| 03:55.02 | ootput | Wyzard: it's a Xeon processor |
| 03:55.14 | Wyzard | OK, not a Thinkpad laptop then |
| 03:55.36 | Wyzard | Thinkpad's BIOS password doesn't get cleared if you reset the CMOS, so I thought that might be what you were talking about |
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| 03:57.13 | Noboru | hi Wyzard no,it is a server, 1U |
| 03:57.35 | Noboru | 4 cores xeon process,intel s3000ah board |
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| 03:57.49 | Noboru | processor* |
| 03:58.04 | Noboru | Wyzard, yeah,me too |
| 03:58.33 | moshii | dansushi: udev/hal problem |
| 03:58.40 | moshii | dansushi: check your logs |
| 03:58.42 | Noboru | Wyzard, i mean, the password protection is still there,but now it always pops out that EFI thing on boot,instead of instantly booting in system after self-post is finished. |
| 03:58.44 | minus198 | Noboru, C*ckextention with 4 xenons :D |
| 03:59.24 | Noboru | http://pastebin.ca/844726 so i have to type in 'exit' right after the > mark ,then it boots in my linux system |
| 04:00.18 | Noboru | i cannot dial intel 800 free phone call,they are always busy. :( |
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| 04:01.24 | moshii | Noboru: it's got EFI firmware? cool |
| 04:01.35 | Noboru | moshii, yeah,must be. |
| 04:01.46 | Noboru | but i need it to boot in the system directly |
| 04:02.00 | Noboru | moshiisan ? |
| 04:02.07 | moshii | Noboru: If it's a server board the password is probably pretty hard to remove though.. so that people find it more difficult when they nick them |
| 04:02.08 | Noboru | tatsukete |
| 04:02.54 | moshii | nande nihongo? igirisu jin da yo... nikuman kudasai! |
| 04:03.05 | Noboru | moshii, i know the password, the problem is,i dont know which would be related to that EFI thing,so i can get rid of it |
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| 04:03.10 | jamesnvc | Hello |
| 04:03.22 | Noboru | moshii, i see. |
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| 04:04.12 | moshii | Noboru: I am in Japan though, so it's all good in the hood like. anyhow... you probably need some efi option to get it to boot automatically |
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| 04:05.29 | Noboru | moshii, you mean with those EFI options,once i type then in correctly,and next time the EFI prompt wont appear and will log in system normally ? |
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| 04:06.14 | moshii | Noboru: yeah, I presume that the machine is sitting at the efi shell because it hasn't been told to do otherwise |
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| 04:06.42 | Noboru | ok |
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| 04:08.24 | Gryfelhase | Hi, What comand is used to start a script at a specific time? (once) ? |
| 04:08.35 | jamesnvc | Gryfelhase: at |
| 04:08.56 | Gryfelhase | thx@ jamesnvc |
| 04:08.57 | jamesnvc | Gryfelhase: I believe, never used it mysely |
| 04:09.03 | jamesnvc | *myself |
| 04:09.18 | jamesnvc | Gryfelhase: no problem |
| 04:09.30 | moshii | Noboru: Itbootntel should have docs for it.. I've had a bit of google and not turned much up though |
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| 04:09.44 | moshii | Noboru: Intel |
| 04:10.32 | Noboru | moshii, i will google again.thanks. |
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| 04:11.32 | moshii | Noboru: If you didn't steal it.. you should have a manual for it though? ;) |
| 04:11.49 | Noboru | i dont. |
| 04:12.00 | Noboru | it doesn't include a manul doc when i bought it. |
| 04:12.24 | moshii | from a maid cafe in akihabara? |
| 04:12.28 | Noboru | i googled,says the same,says intel s3000ah board only deliver manual DOC in E-doc mode. |
| 04:12.59 | Noboru | yes. pdf. |
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| 04:20.00 | jamesnvc | Would anyone be able to help me with volume keys on a T61 thinkpad running testing/unstable? |
| 04:20.20 | jamesnvc | Apparently it is a common problem, but I was unable to find a solution |
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| 04:24.02 | cizzi | how can i limit access to other machines when someone ssh'es to my linux box? |
| 04:25.19 | jamesnvc | cizzi: iptables, prevent outgoing connections of certain kinds? |
| 04:25.27 | cizzi | jamesnvc - thanks |
| 04:25.32 | jamesnvc | no problem |
| 04:25.49 | cizzi | jamesnvc - i guess with iptables i can prevent ssh to other internal IPs as well? |
| 04:26.12 | kgoetz | you could block by source range |
| 04:26.14 | jamesnvc | I suppose so...I'm actually never mucked about with it myself :p |
| 04:26.50 | cizzi | kgoetz - block 192.168.x for example? |
| 04:27.48 | kgoetz | cizzi: i thought you might want to allow access to internal stuff. |
| 04:27.53 | cizzi | for me yes |
| 04:27.55 | cizzi | but not users |
| 04:28.09 | kgoetz | try not giving them accounts... |
| 04:28.20 | kgoetz | but you can filter by user id (and perhaps name) |
| 04:28.26 | cizzi | allright |
| 04:28.40 | cizzi | filter by user using what? iptables again? |
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| 04:28.52 | kgoetz | yes |
| 04:29.03 | cizzi | allright so iptables has to be my new friend :) |
| 04:29.20 | kgoetz | cizzi: :) |
| 04:29.32 | kgoetz | if you find out how to make it do stateful inspection, let me know *grin* |
| 04:29.41 | cizzi | im giving out shells at no charge when im ready... for educational purposes |
| 04:30.00 | cizzi | for people who want to try or learn unix |
| 04:30.27 | cizzi | i'm learning at the same time |
| 04:31.09 | kgoetz | your puting yourself in a pretty scary position - hope you know what your doing *before* you start handing out access |
| 04:31.18 | cizzi | im not ready yet |
| 04:31.21 | cizzi | so its not open yet |
| 04:31.25 | cizzi | might take a while |
| 04:31.32 | elky | yeah... you're going to be learning *alot*, not necessarily what you think |
| 04:31.40 | kgoetz | heh ^^ |
| 04:31.48 | cizzi | yeah i heard all sorts of things |
| 04:31.56 | cizzi | people are not so friendly |
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| 04:33.00 | cizzi | but there's law enforcement and organizations like CERT, and having a good security, lockdown, etc |
| 04:33.07 | cizzi | and just common sense |
| 04:33.58 | kgoetz | hope your looking at debian-hardened and SELinux (or "that other thing" ubuntu use, which i forget its name) |
| 04:34.07 | kgoetz | and thats before i start to think ;) |
| 04:34.23 | cizzi | kgoetz yeah i havent eve nstarted the security part yet |
| 04:34.39 | cizzi | just been configuring things like bandwidth quota,disk quota, general system config for a month now |
| 04:34.55 | Rusty1 | cizzi: I'm not an expert , but a reading of man sshd with attention to AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT section might be worthwhile |
| 04:35.08 | jamesnvc | Could have the users in virtual machines, so that don't ruin stuff |
| 04:35.35 | cizzi | there's also grsecurity which someone suggested i implement into my kernel |
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| 04:35.40 | cizzi | which is very good |
| 04:35.49 | martian67 | what package in debian contains rtsol ? |
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| 04:37.04 | kgoetz | !find rtsol |
| 04:37.15 | kgoetz | just a minute |
| 04:37.20 | kgoetz | s/just/wait just |
| 04:37.20 | martian67 | ok |
| 04:37.38 | kgoetz | cizzi: i've seen that in use before. can be quite good |
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| 04:38.11 | cizzi | kgoetz - i started reading about it, it prevents internal things like \ \ abuse, stack crashing, etc |
| 04:38.17 | martian67 | kgoetz, ? |
| 04:38.25 | cizzi | any kind of abuse that people will try to destroy your system |
| 04:38.32 | jamesnvc | kgoetz: How does that "find" work? Could it be used locally? |
| 04:38.58 | kgoetz | !find rtsol |
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| 04:39.05 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'rtsol' returned no results. |
| 04:39.27 | kgoetz | martian67: sure its in a package? |
| 04:40.06 | kgoetz | jamesnvc: you can /msg dpkg |
| 04:40.22 | kgoetz | jamesnvc: or do you mean 'localy' 'on my system'? |
| 04:40.29 | jamesnvc | kgoetz: The latter |
| 04:40.51 | kgoetz | jamesnvc: not per se. theres various tools which can do what dpkg(the bot) does between them |
| 04:40.58 | jamesnvc | I see... |
| 04:41.01 | kgoetz | or you could run dpkg on your local server ;) |
| 04:41.11 | jamesnvc | Heh |
| 04:41.17 | jamesnvc | Right, thanks |
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| 04:41.20 | kgoetz | !bot |
| 04:41.20 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 04:41.26 | veni | hi all, good morning |
| 04:41.28 | kgoetz | :) |
| 04:41.31 | kgoetz | veni: hi |
| 04:42.17 | veni | I need help in writing a script which will get the package name of the higher version under a folder |
| 04:42.48 | veni | for ex: under aps/aps_3_23-1boss1.dsc, aps/aps_3_23-1boss2.dsc, aps/aps_3_23-1boss3.dsc |
| 04:43.04 | veni | my script should get the package name of aps/aps_3_23-1boss3.dsc into a variable |
| 04:43.14 | veni | how can I do that |
| 04:43.55 | Gryfelhase | is there a comand, that shortens a file to a specific filesize? (or to grap only the first 5 chars of another comands output like ps?) |
| 04:44.09 | \amethyst | Gryfelhase: head |
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| 04:44.29 | veni | anyone there who can help me in this please |
| 04:44.55 | kgoetz | veni: ask in #bash |
| 04:45.13 | \amethyst | comparing debian versions is a debian question |
| 04:45.16 | kgoetz | Gryfelhase: head/tail/cut/stuff |
| 04:45.25 | veni | thankyou kgoetz |
| 04:45.25 | \amethyst | but the actual writing of the script isn't really |
| 04:45.28 | kgoetz | s/stuff// |
| 04:47.35 | kgoetz | \amethyst: soo... is the advice legit or not? ;) |
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| 04:49.20 | Gryfelhase | thx@ \amethyst kgoetz |
| 04:49.22 | \amethyst | kgoetz: I think he needs help from both channels, but probably #bash first :) |
| 04:50.19 | kgoetz | \amethyst: ok. i'll try and be less ... handbally next time :) |
| 04:50.43 | \amethyst | "handbally", I like that :) |
| 04:50.51 | minus198 | Ehm.. I'm having a bit of a problem with mplayer here.. When I maximize, it doesn't really maximize. It just sets the video in the middle with black around it. |
| 04:50.56 | minus198 | How do I fix this? |
| 04:51.08 | minus198 | The format is wmv |
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| 04:53.45 | kgoetz | minus198: mplayer or gmplayer? |
| 04:53.53 | kgoetz | either way, i think you need to choose a different video driver |
| 04:54.36 | kgoetz | (in mplayer, not xorg) |
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| 04:55.17 | minus198 | kgoetz, Thanks, that solved it :) |
| 04:58.18 | kgoetz | minus198: np :) |
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| 04:58.26 | Guerin | !xv |
| 04:58.26 | dpkg | [xv] at http://www.trilon.com/xv/index.html or http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=xv%24 - very popular but NON-FREE image viewer, many formats, thumbnails. Also, the X-Video extension, try 'xvinfo' to see what your videocard is capable of (XFree86 >= 4.0.2 needed), ask me about qiv, or use the 'display' and 'import' and 'convert' programs from imagemagick |
| 04:58.35 | Guerin | bah |
| 04:58.55 | Guerin | dpkg, xv is also mplayer -vo xv goes faster |
| 04:58.56 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
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| 05:02.22 | minus198 | Guerin, I'll try it out :) |
| 05:03.49 | screamingbytes | anyone have a clue which package libdvdcss2 comes from? i seem to be unable to get it, ive installed 3 - 4 or so dvd players and they all say i can't play dvd's cause im missing it. |
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| 05:05.14 | kgoetz | tell screamingbytes about libdvdcss |
| 05:05.19 | kgoetz | !tell screamingbytes about libdvdcss |
| 05:07.02 | Gryfelhase | is there a comand to add a ASCII 13 to the end of a file? |
| 05:07.31 | kgoetz | echo? |
| 05:07.36 | kgoetz | sed? |
| 05:08.21 | Gryfelhase | from within a script |
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| 05:08.52 | Guerin | Gryfelhase: when did those become unusable in a script? |
| 05:09.44 | Gryfelhase | oh, ok, echo seems to do the job |
| 05:09.59 | Gryfelhase | thx |
| 05:10.47 | kgoetz | np |
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| 05:17.54 | Manuel_Rodriguez | I am the hungriest person in the world. |
| 05:17.57 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Me hate not eating! ME HUNGRY! |
| 05:18.17 | Nyle | man |
| 05:18.22 | Nyle | you gettin me hungry now |
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| 05:18.43 | Manuel_Rodriguez | More respect for all hungry people around da world. |
| 05:18.46 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Manuel Rodriguez is the definition of awesome. |
| 05:18.49 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Me Manuel Rodriguez. Me like to eat! |
| 05:18.52 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Manuel Rodriguez is the definition of awesome. |
| 05:18.54 | Nyle | enough |
| 05:18.55 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Manuel Rodriguez is DA BOMB. |
| 05:18.58 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Manuel Rodriguez has join da room and will now crunkitize it |
| 05:19.01 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Me hate not eating! ME HUNGRY! |
| 05:19.04 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Manuel Rodriguez is pretty much da coolest guy ever. |
| 05:19.07 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Manuel Rodriguez is the definition of awesome. |
| 05:19.10 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Manuel Rodriguez craves sandwich right now. |
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| 05:19.13 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Rodriguez. Manuel Rodriguez. |
| 05:19.17 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Me hate not eating! ME HUNGRY! |
| 05:19.19 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Me eat a lot! Me love pancakes! |
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| 05:19.21 | Nyle | !ops Manuel_Rodriguez is being a tool |
| 05:19.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: nyle complains about: Manuel_Rodriguez is being a tool |
| 05:19.22 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Bon Appetit for Manuel Rodriguez! |
| 05:19.25 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Manuel Rodriguez is in da building, Manuel Rodriguez is in da building. |
| 05:19.28 | Manuel_Rodriguez | Manuel Rodriguez craves sandwich right now. |
| 05:19.29 | *** mode/#debian [+o peterS] by ChanServ |
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| 05:19.44 | peterS | we're tired of reading the Manuel, kthx |
| 05:19.46 | Nyle | hey peterS man |
| 05:20.01 | peterS | Nyle: this guy 'stoned' keeps telling me I should ban you |
| 05:20.05 | dbmoodb | hi just got a q - i have an arm based ls pro (linkstation pro) and it is running something called freelink (drop etch) i was wondering if i can debootstrap a fresh clean debian etch / reinstall but i want to copy a few things across (mainly for watchdog) + the kernel. - is it possible to do this from it or do i copy what i want from it and just add to the debootstrap on my own computer ? |
| 05:20.07 | Nyle | really |
| 05:20.15 | elky | as i consellation, at a glance i misread 'da bomb' as 'dumb' |
| 05:20.19 | Guerin | i wonder if this manuel da gargoyle is trying to start another interweb meme or something |
| 05:20.19 | peterS | or maybe you keep telling me to ban stoned |
| 05:20.27 | Nyle | hehe |
| 05:20.33 | peterS | I get confused |
| 05:20.36 | dbmoodb | will this http://buffalo.nas-central.org/index.php/LS_Pro_Debootstrap_Howto work ? |
| 05:20.41 | Nyle | its ok, hows the new year |
| 05:21.03 | peterS | Nyle: well, tonight, for the first time, I forgot and said '2007' when I meant '2008'. I suspect it won't be the last time I do this. |
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| 05:21.14 | elky | peterS, solve the problem, do both ;) |
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| 05:21.30 | peterS | I think I'd rather just party like it's 1999 |
| 05:21.48 | Nyle | you know |
| 05:21.57 | Nyle | in the year 10121 Dune took place |
| 05:22.31 | Nyle | that frank herbert guy should've made it in like 12i736481763478 or something. i mean c'mon, you really expect humans to go off colonize planets in year 1000 |
| 05:22.50 | peterS | I wonder if our software is all y10k compliant |
| 05:22.56 | Nyle | lol |
| 05:23.06 | Nyle | 10k i meant |
| 05:23.10 | peterS | seriously, I bet there are a lot of hardcoded 4-digit years out there |
| 05:23.13 | Nyle | peterS: i wonder if we have enough ip addresses |
| 05:23.30 | K|NgGh0sT | I made an LVM partition when installed Debian on my server, but I can't remember what to put in the fstab to make it auto mount to /media |
| 05:23.32 | elky | peterS, manuel has been klined, you can clear up a ban slot |
| 05:23.36 | Nyle | peterS: electronics of all a lot of types |
| 05:23.44 | Nyle | ones that need to keep date |
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| 05:24.02 | peterS | Nyle: I figure we have plenty of IP addresses. consider: ipv6 has vast numbers of them. but if that should prove insufficient, the protocol version is I think an 8-bit field in the IP header. so we still have IPv7 through IPv255 we can upgrade to |
| 05:24.12 | peterS | elky: good deal |
| 05:24.29 | Nyle | peterS: hmm, I always wanted curved MW transmissions |
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| 05:24.58 | dbmoodb | unix yblahx ? |
| 05:25.04 | Nyle | elky: is the guy known for doing this a lot? |
| 05:25.47 | Nyle | rahul: ping |
| 05:25.54 | peterS | ra-who? |
| 05:25.56 | elky | Nyle, he hit up the ubuntu chans |
| 05:25.57 | Nyle | heh |
| 05:26.07 | Nyle | elky: ahh, fuck ubuntu |
| 05:26.20 | kgoetz | Nyle: un called for, kthxbye |
| 05:26.22 | Nyle | as long as debian is clean/clear of tards |
| 05:26.31 | Nyle | excluding me of course ;) |
| 05:26.31 | dbmoodb | !ubuntu |
| 05:26.31 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 05:26.33 | elky | Nyle, since you're here, obviously it isnt |
| 05:26.37 | peterS | Nyle: let ubuntu be. they have the right to not be bothered by trolls, same as we do |
| 05:26.39 | Nyle | elky: hehe :) |
| 05:26.40 | dbmoodb | ah so anyone got an answer for me ? |
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| 05:27.04 | Nyle | peterS: no I meant fuck em as in like, bah, I'm indifferent, don't care |
| 05:27.24 | elky | Nyle, still uncalled for. i could be indifferent to debian too, but i'm not |
| 05:27.24 | peterS | Nyle: still, there are a lot of ubuntu users in #debian, and vice versa, no need to annoy them to no purpose |
| 05:27.33 | Nyle | oh yes |
| 05:27.38 | Nyle | my bad |
| 05:27.43 | hoxu | !breastfeed Nyle |
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| 05:28.21 | Nyle | elky: well, one doesnt really chose to be indiffernt |
| 05:28.33 | Nyle | there aresomething in the world one cares about, and some one doesn't care about |
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| 05:29.11 | Nyle | hoxu: i like breasts, big giant chicken breasts with honey bbq sauce |
| 05:29.35 | Nyle | dbmoodb: hm |
| 05:29.37 | elky | Nyle, and sometimes there is a bigger picture which makes making an effort worthwhile |
| 05:29.41 | K|NgGh0sT | See, I'm partial to the right nipple |
| 05:30.07 | Nyle | never owned an arm |
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| 05:30.12 | Nyle | well, except a gameboy advance |
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| 05:30.49 | Nyle | elky: you are right, my bad. But still, there was no mal intent in anything I said. Intent does matter. |
| 05:31.07 | hoxu | Nyle, ever thought of making a blog? I think you could get a good running start |
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| 05:31.17 | Nyle | blog? |
| 05:31.27 | elky | Nyle, intent isnt readable over the internet |
| 05:31.31 | kgoetz | Nyle: its a web page you talk in , instead of here ;)O |
| 05:31.42 | hoxu | :) |
| 05:31.53 | Nyle | kgoetz: I am aware |
| 05:31.56 | Nyle | but why is the question |
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| 05:32.12 | elky | Nyle, i think their 'intent' is to tell you to shut up :) |
| 05:32.21 | Nyle | elky: one can play dumb |
| 05:32.26 | Nyle | but you destoyed that too |
| 05:32.34 | elky | glad i could be of assistance |
| 05:32.43 | kgoetz | shes good like that :) |
| 05:32.56 | elky | now we can move on :D |
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| 05:33.21 | Nyle | well fuck man |
| 05:33.23 | Nyle | now im bored again |
| 05:33.36 | hoxu | Nyle, blog it is, you have the materials right there |
| 05:33.39 | billyBobO | good news |
| 05:33.40 | Nyle | lol |
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| 05:33.41 | kgoetz | speaking of debian and ubuntu, i need to find the relevent list masters and get my list subscriptions fixed :/ |
| 05:34.04 | Nyle | I shoudl proably finish up packaging this game |
| 05:34.06 | Penix | what's wrong with the mailman interfaces? |
| 05:34.09 | Nyle | or engine rather |
| 05:34.26 | billyBobO | mailmans a paaaain |
| 05:34.43 | Penix | doesn't mean you should hassles humans instead |
| 05:34.47 | Penix | s/hassles/hassle/ |
| 05:34.49 | kgoetz | Penix: debian doesnt use it |
| 05:34.59 | streuner | Nyle: Did you like "Rifkin"? |
| 05:35.00 | xai | I just install mysql-server on etch, and I can't get it to start for anything.. Can't find anything in google that makes sense.. I'm missing the socket file at the very least. mysqld 5.0 |
| 05:35.20 | Nyle | streuner: yes, fantastic read, searched google and read a few articles about him, and what he writes about |
| 05:35.30 | Nyle | streuner: I thought I was the only one who ever thought of those things |
| 05:35.53 | Nyle | and then some |
| 05:37.35 | Nyle | does anyone like classic doom? anyone still play it? what engine do you use? ones found in debian or another that isn't in debian? |
| 05:37.42 | Nyle | yes that is my real question, thanks |
| 05:38.26 | K|NgGh0sT | You talk a lot |
| 05:38.41 | Nyle | i know man i can't help it, im always on crack it seems |
| 05:38.53 | frood | i play classic doom on xbox live |
| 05:39.04 | Nyle | hmm |
| 05:39.06 | K|NgGh0sT | That's almost debian |
| 05:39.09 | Nyle | I'm working on dooimsday engine |
| 05:39.10 | frood | almost |
| 05:39.17 | Nyle | well not working on it upstream but packaging |
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| 05:39.21 | Noboru | okay,the EFI issue has been fixed |
| 05:39.26 | Noboru | i just called Intel |
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| 05:39.33 | Nyle | thats one i wanted to see |
| 05:39.52 | Noboru | it is very simple,just change the boot option lol |
| 05:40.04 | Noboru | from EFI to HDD first :) |
| 05:40.07 | Nyle | Noboru: efi issue? |
| 05:40.13 | Noboru | yeah. |
| 05:40.25 | Noboru | my board supports EFI BIOS |
| 05:40.33 | Nyle | ohhh |
| 05:40.36 | billyBobO | does anyone know of a script which tars up many files into many neat little 4.3GB packages? |
| 05:40.42 | Noboru | so after a bios cleanup,the EFI is brought up at boot |
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| 05:41.08 | Nyle | billyBobO: you'd have to write one |
| 05:41.44 | Nyle | although to me it seems that sinc eyou are using 4.3 you are maybe backing these files up on DVD media |
| 05:41.54 | billyBobO | :) |
| 05:42.09 | Nyle | am I correct in my assumption? and if I am, backingup to dvd is umm... retarded. Don't do it if you value your data |
| 05:42.22 | billyBobO | thanks |
| 05:42.27 | Nyle | sure |
| 05:42.28 | billyBobO | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.55 | kgoetz | billyBobO: its called 'tar' or 'split' |
| 05:43.10 | Nyle | well sure there are cases, but ime i've had dvds go bad after a few months |
| 05:43.16 | billyBobO | i know tar, but not split... it that a flag for tar or its own program? |
| 05:43.23 | kgoetz | its a tool of its own |
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| 05:43.58 | Nyle | even the top quality ones i got |
| 05:44.24 | billyBobO | kgoetz: does it need to be a tar fiel first? i need these independently readable, on a windows machine :( |
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| 05:45.06 | K|NgGh0sT | When apt-get'ing something it just freezes in the middle of downloading something to the point I have to ^c the process and re apt-get it |
| 05:45.24 | kgoetz | billyBobO: you should be able to pipe the output of say `tar -cjf - blah |split <magic options> <more foo>` and get a bunch of archives. you'd have to ask someone else for proper instructions, tehre just a guide |
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| 05:45.41 | kgoetz | K|NgGh0sT: can you give an example? |
| 05:45.52 | Nyle | cheap 20$ 40gb hdd, 5.0$ usbmate, 10$ power supply unit for the usbmate, if that |
| 05:46.07 | Nyle | or get a external hdd, it would be WAY more convenient |
| 05:46.20 | Nyle | save a lot of time burning stuff and all tht |
| 05:46.38 | kgoetz | Nyle: yeah. agree, if they are cheap to come by |
| 05:46.41 | billyBobO | not tonight :) |
| 05:46.43 | Nyle | newegg |
| 05:46.45 | Nyle | ! |
| 05:47.42 | kgoetz | looks pretty UK to me |
| 05:47.59 | kgoetz | ah no, USA |
| 05:48.03 | kgoetz | just as expensive |
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| 05:50.31 | utopia_ | what is the name of the X11 server? |
| 05:50.35 | utopia_ | as a package |
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| 05:52.53 | K|NgGh0sT | kgoetz, I'll be apt-get dist-upgrading and on a random package it just stops downloading it |
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| 05:55.14 | kgoetz | K|NgGh0sT: any proxys or firewalling between you and the update server? |
| 05:55.17 | K|NgGh0sT | Nope |
| 05:55.21 | K|NgGh0sT | Always worked before |
| 05:55.29 | kgoetz | disk/partition full? |
| 05:55.38 | K|NgGh0sT | nope |
| 05:55.46 | K|NgGh0sT | It works when I ctrl-c it and restart it |
| 05:55.48 | kgoetz | if not, can you pastebin a copy of the failing update |
| 05:55.50 | dbmoodb | hi ah how can i compare files and permissions between two different dirs (can make them .gz if that helps) |
| 05:55.55 | kgoetz | !tell K|NgGh0sT about pastebin |
| 05:55.58 | K|NgGh0sT | kgoetz, it's a random update |
| 05:56.00 | K|NgGh0sT | er |
| 05:56.03 | K|NgGh0sT | random package |
| 05:56.56 | kgoetz | dbmoodb: you could ask #bash perhaps. greybot probably has some good tips (the #bash bot) |
| 05:57.08 | dbmoodb | ok... |
| 05:57.51 | K|NgGh0sT | I'm following the install of Nvidia drivers on http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=10812&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=nvidia+drivers&start=0 and when I get to the m-a part I get an error when looking for linux-headers-2.6.22-3-486 but when I apt-cache searched they didn't exist... |
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| 05:58.52 | kgoetz | cant help you with nvidia stuff. no idea bout it |
| 05:59.36 | Appiah | well what about it kgoetz |
| 05:59.54 | kgoetz | Appiah: pardon? |
| 06:00.06 | Appiah | well what about the nvidia stuff? |
| 06:00.33 | Appiah | K|NgGh0sT , not kgoetz |
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| 06:00.40 | sadmin | hu |
| 06:00.42 | sadmin | do_vfs_lock: VFS is out of sync with lock manager |
| 06:00.46 | sadmin | what this error mean |
| 06:00.48 | kgoetz | heh. bit of confusion there |
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| 06:01.06 | K|NgGh0sT | Appiah, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers and it's not working |
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| 06:01.16 | Appiah | apt-cache search linux-headers |
| 06:01.25 | Appiah | cant you find a linux header for your version? |
| 06:01.31 | K|NgGh0sT | Nope |
| 06:01.51 | Appiah | are you running stable ? testing? unstable ? |
| 06:01.58 | K|NgGh0sT | unstable |
| 06:02.42 | K|NgGh0sT | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.42 | K|NgGh0sT | E: Broken packages |
| 06:03.03 | Appiah | pastebin the whole message |
| 06:03.26 | K|NgGh0sT | The nvidia error? |
| 06:03.56 | K|NgGh0sT | or apt? |
| 06:04.04 | stew | K|NgGh0sT: 2.6.22-3 is no longer available in sid becuase it was replaced by 2.6.23-1 |
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| 06:04.27 | K|NgGh0sT | stew, weird how dist-upgrade got me to 22-3 and not 23-1 |
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| 06:04.48 | K|NgGh0sT | What's the apt command for kernal install |
| 06:05.05 | K|NgGh0sT | it's way past my bedtime and I gotta get this done |
| 06:05.16 | kgoetz | the metapackage isnt up to date |
| 06:05.50 | stew | K|NgGh0sT: i don't find it particually wierd |
| 06:06.21 | sadmin | guys |
| 06:06.21 | stew | K|NgGh0sT: aptitude install packagename ; ("apt-cache search linux-image" will help you find a package name) |
| 06:06.23 | sadmin | do_vfs_lock: VFS is out of sync with lock manager |
| 06:06.30 | sadmin | what this error mean |
| 06:06.43 | kgoetz | sadmin: probably, that the "VFS is out of sync with lock manager" |
| 06:07.10 | sadmin | what i do then |
| 06:07.27 | kgoetz | where did you get that message? |
| 06:09.39 | sadmin | on my nfs client which mounts my storage |
| 06:09.53 | sadmin | and apache2 runs on this server |
| 06:10.06 | K|NgGh0sT | stew, how do I upgrade to 23-1? |
| 06:10.57 | stew | K|NgGh0sT: aptitude install packagename |
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| 06:11.27 | sadmin | kgoetz |
| 06:12.00 | kgoetz | sadmin: so looks like your having issues with your nfs daemons. not sure i can help you with that |
| 06:12.23 | sadmin | on client of on server |
| 06:12.30 | sadmin | on client or on server |
| 06:12.36 | sadmin | server is running nfs |
| 06:12.48 | sadmin | on client i use storage to run apache3 |
| 06:12.53 | sadmin | apache2 |
| 06:14.22 | stew | sadmin: what does "uname -r" say on the nfs client machine? |
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| 06:14.58 | vn | I was reading the apache 3 and was like "wtf!?" |
| 06:14.59 | vn | hehe |
| 06:15.05 | sadmin | 2.6.18-xen |
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| 06:15.16 | linux_jones | does the hcl depend on the kernel or distro? |
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| 06:15.19 | sadmin | on client /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
| 06:15.20 | sadmin | Starting web server (apache2)... failed! |
| 06:15.27 | sadmin | apache cant run |
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| 06:15.46 | stew | sadmin: did you check apache's error log to see why? |
| 06:15.51 | mhiku | how to know the server distrO? its cat /etc/????? |
| 06:16.34 | stew | mhiku: try running "lsb_release -a" |
| 06:16.35 | Guerin | mhiku: depends on the distro |
| 06:16.38 | kgoetz | mhiku: uname -a; lsb_release -a; cat /etc/issue ; for starters |
| 06:16.47 | kgoetz | mhiku: ps, fewer ?? please |
| 06:16.57 | K|NgGh0sT | Alright now I get the error, nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-100.14.19 but it is not installable |
| 06:17.40 | sadmin | nothing in logs |
| 06:17.43 | mhiku | there thnx for the cat /etc/issue |
| 06:17.47 | sadmin | b/c apache2 is not running |
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| 06:17.55 | sadmin | i see error in demsg |
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| 06:19.42 | sadmin | is this client issue with mounting |
| 06:21.19 | mhiku | how to install java on debian? |
| 06:21.49 | kgoetz | !tell mhiku about java |
| 06:22.41 | sadmin | stew |
| 06:22.43 | sadmin | any idea |
| 06:23.25 | stew | sadmin: are you actually able to use the nfs share? or is it causing it to not be mountable? |
| 06:23.34 | stew | sadmin: you aren't trying to mount NFS with nolock, are you? |
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| 06:24.40 | sadmin | its mounted previously i wont change it but now it apache wont get data from that |
| 06:24.43 | K|NgGh0sT | I was wondering if anyone could help walk me through LVM2 setup for a vg |
| 06:24.47 | sadmin | no i just mount it simply |
| 06:26.03 | stew | sadmin: are you able to use the nfs share? |
| 06:26.17 | sadmin | well i can cd it |
| 06:26.20 | sadmin | yes |
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| 06:26.42 | stew | sadmin: what makes you say that apache can't use it? |
| 06:27.21 | sadmin | this dmesg error do_vfs_lock: VFS is out of sync with lock manager! |
| 06:27.33 | stew | sadmin: what does that have to do with apache? |
| 06:27.37 | sadmin | also apache virtual hosts not coming online |
| 06:27.44 | sadmin | i cant browse them |
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| 06:27.55 | stew | sadmin: what happens when you try to browse them? |
| 06:28.17 | sadmin | unable to connect |
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| 06:28.44 | stew | sadmin: did you check apache's error log to see why it isn't starting? |
| 06:29.16 | stew | sadmin: is this apache or apache2? |
| 06:29.23 | stew | oh, apache2 |
| 06:29.33 | stew | sadmin: what happens when you run "apache2ctl configtest"? |
| 06:30.12 | sadmin | Syntax OK |
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| 06:32.07 | nathan | I've just installed the base debian system; I want to install the kde beta 4, how can I do this |
| 06:32.45 | kgoetz | !tell nathan about install kde |
| 06:32.49 | kgoetz | !tell nathan about kde |
| 06:32.53 | stew | nathan: kde4 isn't in debian yet |
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| 06:33.37 | stew | nathan: so if you really want kde4, you'll probably have to compile it yourself |
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| 06:33.47 | nathan | ehhh ok forget that |
| 06:33.54 | nathan | what distros is it in do you know? |
| 06:34.14 | stew | nathan: ask #kde |
| 06:34.36 | Obligatory | Anybody know how to dump only good blocks of a device (with some known bad blocks) to standard output? |
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| 06:36.37 | stew | Obligatory: do you mean that you know some of the blocks are bad, or that you actually know which particular blocks are bad? |
| 06:37.06 | K|NgGh0sT | please someone |
| 06:37.43 | Obligatory | stew:both: the file system "knows", so I can find out, if need be. |
| 06:39.03 | stew | Obligatory: well ddrescue can write whatever data can be read to a file. it works like dd but wont fail if a block can't be read. i don't think it would write to stdout though |
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| 06:40.05 | yigal | would someone help me set up console fonts? |
| 06:40.05 | LoneTech | stew: dd has an option for that, you know |
| 06:40.29 | stew | LoneTech: what is it? |
| 06:40.37 | LoneTech | conv=noerror |
| 06:40.42 | Gryfelhase | >/join älinux |
| 06:40.46 | Gryfelhase | grrr |
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| 06:42.03 | Obligatory | stew: yeah, dd_rescue & ddrescue both are file output only, unlike dd. Need standard output tho'. |
| 06:42.40 | Obligatory | LoneTech: thanks!!! |
| 06:43.01 | LoneTech | skipping specific blocks would be fairly easy to do, I'd probably use python since I'm used to it |
| 06:44.16 | yigal | I installed console-tools but I would like, if possible to set up a smaller font to what I have but am rather confused on how to do this. |
| 06:44.48 | K|NgGh0sT | When I'm trying to lvcreate I get the following error, http://pastebin.ca/844897 |
| 06:45.05 | K|NgGh0sT | can someone help me get around that |
| 06:45.07 | mhiku | dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege |
| 06:45.18 | LoneTech | yigal: that would probably mean using another text mode, not merely a font switch (although one may be involved) |
| 06:45.26 | mhiku | how to install software without superuser needed? |
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| 06:45.43 | K|NgGh0sT | mhiku, using sudo |
| 06:46.24 | stew | K|NgGh0sT: try runnning "modprobe dm_mod" |
| 06:47.08 | K|NgGh0sT | stew, didn't help |
| 06:47.11 | stew | mhiku: are you asking how to install software on a machine where you have no way of getting superuser access? |
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| 06:47.19 | mhiku | i cannot be a superuser because im using a shared server |
| 06:47.22 | yigal | LoneTech: ok, how do I invoke another text mode? |
| 06:47.29 | mhiku | i cannot use sudo |
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| 06:47.35 | Obligatory | Gotta run, thanks stew & LoneTech. |
| 06:47.47 | K|NgGh0sT | stew, oh wait I typo'd. Thanks |
| 06:48.03 | kaxi | how well does gnash work on debian etch? and how would i install it? |
| 06:48.08 | LoneTech | yigal: it's actually been so long that I forgot. One way is the vga= option to the kernel at boot. |
| 06:48.30 | yigal | LoneTech: I have it set as "high" as it is willing to go |
| 06:48.46 | LoneTech | what do you mean by that? |
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| 06:49.19 | yigal | LoneTech: I have it set at 792 which is the best I can get from it |
| 06:49.32 | LoneTech | ah, you're using vesafb then |
| 06:49.45 | LoneTech | in that case it really should work to just switch fonts with consolechars |
| 06:50.08 | yigal | LoneTech: ok so consolechars I will do some research |
| 06:50.47 | LoneTech | config set in /etc/console-tools/config |
| 06:51.44 | yigal | LoneTech: I changed the "SCREEN_FONT_vc6=lat0-sun12" |
| 06:51.58 | yigal | LoneTech: sorry, I changed 16 to 12 but no effect |
| 06:52.25 | LoneTech | well, that's the file read by the init script. by default it's all commented out |
| 06:52.41 | LoneTech | and use consolechars -f to try out fonts |
| 06:53.01 | yigal | LoneTech: how can I get a list of fonts the tty is ready to accept ? |
| 06:53.09 | yigal | LoneTech: or can I? |
| 06:53.22 | LoneTech | ls /usr/share/consolefonts/ |
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| 06:54.22 | K|NgGh0sT | I want to use xfs on my logical group, what's the command to do so? |
| 06:55.28 | epsilon | mkfs.[...]? |
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| 06:55.45 | epsilon | should be a part of xfs tool |
| 06:55.48 | stew | K|NgGh0sT: by logical group you mean volume group? |
| 06:56.00 | K|NgGh0sT | Because, I'm getting mkfs.xfs: No such file or directory |
| 06:56.14 | epsilon | then install it |
| 06:56.38 | epsilon | "apt-cache search xfs" as beginning |
| 06:56.51 | K|NgGh0sT | I did that, only found x-server stuff |
| 06:57.01 | stew | K|NgGh0sT: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 06:57.08 | Penix | K|NgGh0sT: look closer |
| 06:57.37 | epsilon | BTW, if you even don't know how to install the xfs tools, you probably just want an ordinaly ext3 |
| 06:57.44 | K|NgGh0sT | ah I'm an idiot |
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| 06:58.05 | drgeb | I am tring to build gdm and after I run ./configure I get No package 'check' found how can I get check ?? |
| 06:58.21 | Penix | drgeb: why are you building from source? |
| 06:58.26 | Penix | drgeb: and is it debian source? |
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| 06:59.35 | K|NgGh0sT | Thanks guys for the help |
| 07:00.03 | K|NgGh0sT | all that's left is getting nvidia installed and I'm good. I'll worry about that tomorrow |
| 07:00.06 | drgeb | Penix I am using ubuntu and building it because i have this weird problem |
| 07:00.07 | yigal | LoneTech: Thank You |
| 07:00.14 | Penix | drgeb: then ask in #ubuntu |
| 07:00.33 | drgeb | each time I reboot I have to log in twice |
| 07:00.36 | mhiku | how can i use dpkg without sudo or admin priviledges |
| 07:00.47 | drgeb | so I taught of building gdm |
| 07:01.08 | Penix | drgeb: that's not going to fix whatever's going on |
| 07:01.15 | drgeb | ok |
| 07:01.17 | Penix | drgeb: but since that's an ubuntu gdm package problem, ask #ubuntu |
| 07:01.26 | drgeb | ok let me try |
| 07:01.36 | nathan | how do I install kde 3.97 on debian? |
| 07:01.55 | drgeb | Penix any idea though what this "check" is ? |
| 07:02.16 | Penix | drgeb: I don't really care, since building from source is a silly idea *and* it's not a debian related problem |
| 07:02.45 | Penix | nathan: 4.0 RCwhatever in other words? |
| 07:03.10 | nathan | I guess |
| 07:04.34 | stew | nathan: find the sourcecode, resd and follow the installation instructions on how to compile and install it. this is not a recommended thing to do. |
| 07:04.50 | nathan | I just want to use the pre-compiled one |
| 07:05.05 | stew | nathan: which pre-compiled one? |
| 07:05.05 | nathan | there's no data on this computer at all so spare the warnings; thanks though |
| 07:05.18 | cafuego | Google for a precompiled .deb set then, eh |
| 07:05.28 | nathan | this page says there's a pre-compiled one for debian http://www.kde.org/info/3.97.php |
| 07:05.47 | Penix | there are some early packages in experimental afaik, but they're probably not anywhere near ready to use for a functional desktop |
| 07:05.50 | cafuego | which version? |
| 07:05.51 | Penix | could be wrong though... |
| 07:06.40 | nathan | i tried a live cd of it a while back and it didn't even start up |
| 07:06.43 | stew | nathan: thats outdated info, and those were not pre-compiled for your debian system, they were precompiled for an unstable version of debian |
| 07:07.00 | nathan | lenny? |
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| 07:08.00 | nathan | welll alright |
| 07:08.22 | stew | nathan: its in debian experimental. which is not for you, and not supported here |
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| 07:11.28 | Penix | DDR2 eats babies |
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| 07:12.41 | cafuego | ddr3 ftw! |
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| 07:13.34 | Penix | bah. they all make replacing my dead ddr1 stick(s) cost a fortune |
| 07:13.48 | Penix | stupid technological advancement and stuff... |
| 07:13.59 | cafuego | isn't ddr still dirty cheap? |
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| 07:14.11 | Penix | yeah, but ddr2 is so freakin cheap in comparison |
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| 07:15.32 | cafuego | If you buy me a Phenom you can have my 2Gb of ddr |
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| 07:16.18 | cafuego | Eh, 2GB DDR sticks are $79 |
| 07:16.55 | cafuego | $160 for 2x2GB |
| 07:16.59 | cafuego | feh |
| 07:17.18 | Penix | hmm. I'm looking in the wrong places then |
| 07:17.24 | cafuego | Or is that DDR2 |
| 07:17.35 | cafuego | No, that's gotta be ddr2. |
| 07:17.46 | Penix | yeah, I've look at the same sorta deal for that price on ddr2 |
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| 07:17.50 | Penix | s/look/looked/ |
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| 07:18.06 | cafuego | kingston pc3200 1GB $79 |
| 07:18.18 | cafuego | But that's prolly 2x512 |
| 07:18.33 | cafuego | Oh well |
| 07:18.42 | Penix | that's what I hate. half the amount for the same price. it's to be expected, but, I still like to whine about it :) |
| 07:18.45 | cafuego | I'll just do a new desktop this year |
| 07:18.58 | Penix | I'm due for one, so I'm gonna have to bite the bullet |
| 07:19.17 | cafuego | AGP card won't fir either |
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| 07:19.24 | cafuego | so cpu, ram, mono, vga |
| 07:19.43 | Penix | I've got an X2 4000+ just sitting here waiting for the rest of the parts |
| 07:19.52 | cafuego | HA! |
| 07:20.02 | cafuego | I wish mine were that fast |
| 07:20.02 | Penix | good enough chip for me. considering I've been on an XP 2800 for quite some time |
| 07:20.18 | Penix | $100 for the 65W model. couldn't say no |
| 07:20.22 | cafuego | which ran out of ram twice today |
| 07:20.26 | harpal | !hw |
| 07:20.26 | dpkg | from memory, hw is not software |
| 07:21.00 | xsdg | heh |
| 07:21.06 | xsdg | cafuego: :o) |
| 07:21.08 | cafuego | she's got a c2d anyway |
| 07:21.17 | cafuego | i DESERVE a new machine |
| 07:21.24 | ApTek | cafuego: I agree. |
| 07:21.26 | Penix | that's perfectly logical |
| 07:21.28 | xsdg | Penix: amd64? |
| 07:21.36 | Penix | xsdg: the X2? |
| 07:21.42 | xsdg | Penix: yeah |
| 07:21.45 | cafuego | coz the X2 5600+ was for both of us :-P |
| 07:21.48 | Penix | xsdg: yeah. dual core amd64 |
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| 07:23.04 | xsdg | cafuego: how much mem do you have? |
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| 07:23.22 | cafuego | xsdg: 2Gb in the desktop, the X2 is a xen server and has 4Gb |
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| 07:28.11 | poolio | Is there a repository somewhere with older .deb files that are no longer in the repositories? I recently upgraded my fglrx drivers and am trying to roll back |
| 07:28.51 | Penix | poolio: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
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| 07:29.15 | Penix | hmm. too old |
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| 07:29.49 | Penix | poolio: try snapshot.debian.net maybe |
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| 07:35.52 | poolio | Penix: Got it, thanks a ton. |
| 07:35.57 | mhiku | i cannot use dpkg and sudo because this is a shared server, how can i install java? |
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| 07:41.15 | Penix | mhiku: the official sun download for linux should let you extract/install to a specified dir I'd imagine |
| 07:41.43 | Penix | meaning the non-debian bin installer |
| 07:42.25 | mhiku | ok |
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| 07:58.35 | Haris | !dpkg package gcc |
| 07:58.41 | Haris | hmm |
| 07:58.46 | Haris | !dpkg gcc |
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| 07:58.57 | Haris | hmm |
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| 07:59.16 | Haris | !gcc |
| 07:59.16 | dpkg | the GNU Compiler Collection. see http://gcc.gnu.org/ or #gcc. In order to change which version it should use "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-$whatever", or /usr/bin symlinks not handled using Debian <alternatives>, see /usr/share/doc/gcc/README.Debian |
| 07:59.26 | Haris | !package gcc |
| 07:59.31 | Haris | hmm |
| 08:01.52 | Haris | I'm trying to install package: gcc. Its says these ( libmudflap0 libmudflap0-dev libc6-dev ) packages marked as NEW will be installed and these are a security risk. Are they? |
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| 08:08.01 | Haris | Are these packages a security risk? |
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| 08:08.07 | fth | hi, i would like to remove an installed package using apt-get, but apt-get wants to remove other packages when removing this one, too. is it possible to remove the package without removing it's dependencies? |
| 08:08.52 | simonrvn | Haris: read the BTS entries if it concerns you |
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| 08:09.30 | Haris | I forgot the bts. Where is it? |
| 08:09.37 | Haris | bts.debian.org? |
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| 08:09.45 | Haris | ah! |
| 08:09.46 | Haris | bugs |
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| 08:10.58 | Haris | yikes! |
| 08:11.00 | Haris | libc6-dev has many |
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| 08:11.39 | dimir | Morning! |
| 08:12.02 | Haris | IS it possible to get around this while running aptitude install gcc ? -> Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20070407-11:55' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter |
| 08:12.08 | simonrvn | seeing that, people often think "oh man, is it ever buggy" but they fail to realise other OSes aren't even open about that sort of thing |
| 08:12.23 | simonrvn | comment out the cdrom in sources.list |
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| 08:13.09 | simonrvn | open source/free software OSes are |
| 08:13.29 | Haris | Sometimes I regret having feenode has my backup support community, in that I don't learn or keep things in my mind |
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| 08:14.16 | simonrvn | just gotta *do* it. the more you do it, the more you learn |
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| 08:14.27 | simonrvn | the more you remember too |
| 08:14.59 | simonrvn | good exercise for your brain, solving problems, finding new ways to do things, finding a new way to use an "old" thing, etc. |
| 08:15.20 | happla | I just learned it takes forever to rsync 924000 files |
| 08:15.51 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 08:15.53 | jelly-home | happla: negative on that "forever" |
| 08:16.01 | happla | jelly-home: hehe - nah =) |
| 08:16.23 | happla | jelly-home: I calculated it would take about 22Hours for me to copy my 4TB, 924k files |
| 08:16.37 | simonrvn | jelly-home: hey there |
| 08:16.49 | jelly-home | takes about 8 hours for 800GB, ~30mil. files |
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| 08:17.00 | fth | noone? :< |
| 08:17.19 | Haris | I don't have make or gmake on etch r0. How do I build zebra? |
| 08:17.22 | jelly-home | happla: that's with multiple filesystems, multiple parallel rsync |
| 08:17.34 | happla | jelly-home: ok, this is one filesystem |
| 08:17.41 | simonrvn | fth: you can't override things like that, they're there for a reason |
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| 08:17.48 | happla | jelly-home: I hope I never have to copy all my filesystems, some 35TB |
| 08:17.54 | simonrvn | Haris: gmake is gnu make |
| 08:17.59 | fth | ok, thanks |
| 08:18.07 | simonrvn | Haris: /msg dpkg b-e |
| 08:18.14 | jelly-home | happla: upgrades happen. |
| 08:18.33 | simonrvn | Haris: zebra is old anyway, you'll want quagga |
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| 08:18.45 | deadcat | i am compiling 2.6.23 but i cant seem to find iptables NAT in the menuconfig. please direct me. |
| 08:18.59 | simonrvn | /NAT |
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| 08:19.03 | simonrvn | in menuconfig |
| 08:19.11 | deadcat | simonrvn: under which section? |
| 08:19.20 | simonrvn | that's the search.. |
| 08:19.31 | deadcat | oh |
| 08:19.37 | jelly-home | happla: in any case, the first rsync may as well take a whole week... it's only the second rsync that matters for your downtime |
| 08:19.43 | simonrvn | read the help at the top ;) |
| 08:20.33 | deadcat | simonrvn: never did actually (= |
| 08:20.50 | happla | jelly-home: =) |
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| 08:22.38 | jelly-home | happla: your 50MB/s transfer sounds like you're reading from (or writing to) a single ATA disk |
| 08:22.53 | oDesk | i've apache2.2.6 installed and i want to install SSL/TSL into it |
| 08:23.12 | simonrvn | it's already there. a2enmod it |
| 08:23.31 | happla | jelly-home: it over a GigE-network |
| 08:23.35 | oDesk | simonrvn: no |
| 08:23.41 | simonrvn | yes |
| 08:24.08 | oDesk | simonrvn -bash: a2enmod: command not found |
| 08:24.32 | simonrvn | then you're either not root, or that's not a debian apache |
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| 08:25.30 | oDesk | simonrvn: i'm root and it's Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-5-k7 |
| 08:25.34 | jelly-home | or has bad PATH for some reason |
| 08:26.02 | jelly-home | oDesk: your interactive root shell ought to have /usr/sbin and /sbin in PATH |
| 08:26.05 | simonrvn | /usr/sbin/a2enmod |
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| 08:26.34 | simonrvn | yeh, that's possible...(bad PATH) |
| 08:26.58 | simonrvn | oDesk: did you "su" or "su -" ? |
| 08:27.11 | oDesk | simonrvn: i'm su - |
| 08:27.22 | simonrvn | fix your PATH then... |
| 08:27.59 | oDesk | ./usr/sbin ls a2* # => ls: a2*: No such file or directory |
| 08:28.24 | simonrvn | fix your install then... should be there |
| 08:28.44 | simonrvn | apache2.2-common: /usr/sbin/a2enmod |
| 08:28.51 | oDesk | simonrvn: um.. then i'll re-install it using apt-get |
| 08:29.12 | oDesk | simonrvn: could that effect my current sites ? |
| 08:29.29 | oDesk | simonrvn: or as soon as i copy the virtualhost info's everything will be ok ? |
| 08:30.33 | deadcat | for some reason i cant get -> Full NAT (NF_NAT [=n]) |
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| 08:30.54 | simonrvn | well, see, that's not my fault... |
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| 08:31.41 | deadcat | simonrvn: can you go into menuconfig and see if you have that? |
| 08:32.02 | simonrvn | you disabled something... brb |
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| 08:41.28 | deadcat | can someone post the 2.6.23 debian kernel .config for me please. |
| 08:41.31 | minus198 | !etch simple sid backports |
| 08:41.38 | minus198 | !dpkg simple sid backports |
| 08:41.53 | minus198 | !tell minus abou simple sid backports |
| 08:42.03 | minus198 | !tell minus about simple sid backports |
| 08:42.07 | deadcat | minus198: use /msg dpkg |
| 08:42.19 | minus198 | deadcat, sorry. |
| 08:42.20 | |zeal| | deadcat: other's .config may not suit you |
| 08:42.35 | deadcat | |zeal|: the debian kernel .config the one you apt-get |
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| 08:42.54 | |zeal| | deadcat: ok, tell me where to post |
| 08:43.17 | simonrvn | deadcat: you disabled something that's making it stay < > |
| 08:43.31 | deadcat | |zeal|: http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 08:43.41 | x3on | any significant advantage using a separate /home partition? |
| 08:43.52 | deadcat | simonrvn: Full NAT (NF_NAT [=n]) wont even show up. |
| 08:44.00 | neotic | x3on: easy backups |
| 08:44.05 | deadcat | simonrvn: and i dont know what i disabled to make it not show up |
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| 08:44.18 | x3on | neotic: speed/performance? |
| 08:44.20 | deadcat | simonrvn: i seem to have everything i need it. |
| 08:44.26 | simonrvn | enable netfilter |
| 08:44.31 | deadcat | yes |
| 08:44.38 | neotic | x3on: no differance |
| 08:45.18 | deadcat | simonrvn: i have: Networking support (NET [=y]), Network packet filtering framework (Netfilter) (NETFILTER [=y]), IP tables support (required for filtering/masq/NAT) (IP_NF_IPTABLES [=m]) but no Full NAT (NF_NAT [=n]) |
| 08:45.42 | simonrvn | you need the basic stuff too... sec |
| 08:46.06 | ronr | hi, I use amavis on etch for mail scanning, I got virus and banned content set to DISCARD but the system keeps on mailing me copies of the blocked content (to postmaster), how do I get rid of those? |
| 08:46.20 | simonrvn | CONFIG_NETFILTER_XTABLES |
| 08:46.26 | |zeal| | deadcat: http://pastebin.ca/844960 |
| 08:46.39 | deadcat | simonrvn: i have that. |
| 08:46.43 | deadcat | |zeal|: tahnks |
| 08:46.51 | |zeal| | deadcat: np :) |
| 08:46.57 | deadcat | simonrvn: its set to m |
| 08:47.03 | simonrvn | whatever, look at |zeal|'s |
| 08:47.09 | simonrvn | mine's set y |
| 08:47.48 | deadcat | simonrvn: oh. |
| 08:47.54 | |zeal| | simonrvn: yep :) full nat's config changes all the time, even linus complains about :P |
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| 08:48.37 | simonrvn | |zeal|: *everyone* complains about it. i think that, and the drive order are the things that annoy me the most |
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| 08:49.02 | alinux-lb22 | Hi All ..I have a graph that has some wrong info due to a corrupt database "the graph read info through a php script that read from a db" so I want to fix that data ..from my knowledge hte info is stored in an rrd file ? or is it stored elsewhere ? where can I change previous data of the cacati graphs ? |
| 08:49.12 | x3on | tell x3on etch->lenny |
| 08:49.19 | x3on | !dpkg tell x3on etch->lenny |
| 08:49.24 | x3on | anyone wanna work that for me ;) |
| 08:49.31 | simonrvn | !tell x3on about msg the bot |
| 08:49.50 | x3on | ta simonrvn |
| 08:50.00 | simonrvn | np |
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| 08:51.36 | minus198 | Build command 'cd proftpd-dfsg-1.3.1 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. |
| 08:51.36 | minus198 | E: Child process failed |
| 08:51.40 | minus198 | What do I do about that? |
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| 08:51.55 | minus198 | I'm catching backports from sid |
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| 08:53.09 | utopia_ | how do i block X11 from accepting tcp connections? |
| 08:53.13 | utopia_ | i thought it was --nolisten-tcp |
| 08:53.15 | utopia_ | but im not sure |
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| 08:54.03 | simonrvn | --no-listen tcp |
| 08:54.15 | kaxi | i installed gnash after compiling it from source but have no idea how to set it up now, i tried copying the files into the /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins directory but when i visit sites with flash it still says it need adobe flash plugin? |
| 08:54.15 | simonrvn | er, -nolisten |
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| 08:54.39 | deadcat | simonrvn: maybe i have to enable some ip6 stuff? |
| 08:54.44 | simonrvn | no |
| 08:54.52 | utopia_ | simonrvn, so its --nolisten tcp? |
| 08:55.01 | simonrvn | one - |
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| 08:55.15 | deadcat | simonrvn: when i search /NAT, i one line is this: Symbol: NF_NAT_SNMP_BASIC [=n] |
| 08:55.25 | ShredZ | I installed php5-mysql and mysql5 (client and server) on sarge through backports, but phpinfo reports running mysql client 4. How can I get it to use mysql client 5 ? |
| 08:56.39 | utopia_ | simonrvn, passed to startx? |
| 08:57.15 | utopia_ | i added to the startx script but it didnt work |
| 08:57.15 | streuner | !listvals nolisten |
| 08:57.20 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'nolisten' by value (2): xhost ;; nolisten. |
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| 08:57.42 | |zeal| | simonrvn: you know the biggest problem is that they do not give the dependencies explicitly displayed while you can search the gray-boxed option in xconfig |
| 08:58.00 | streuner | !nolisten |
| 08:58.00 | dpkg | Ask me about <sshx>. No, really. What, you're still reading this? You're connecting to a legacy piece of software that doesn't have sshd on it? OK, then remove the "-nolisten tcp" from your X invocation and then ask me about <mit-magic-cookie> and read "man xauth". |
| 08:58.31 | |zeal| | simonrvn: it seems like it's saying "hey, I am here, but you just cannot select me !" |
| 08:58.52 | simonrvn | deadcat: that's part of it... you can scroll |
| 08:59.05 | oDesk | how i redirect http request to https using VirtualHost ? |
| 08:59.09 | simonrvn | utopia_: should already be there |
| 08:59.13 | deadcat | simonrvn: that part i've enabled everything already. |
| 08:59.27 | deadcat | oh well i got to sleep. time to give up. |
| 08:59.33 | simonrvn | look for XTABLES |
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| 09:03.38 | |zeal| | !ac |
| 09:03.38 | dpkg | ac is probably Mike L Kesl or another tyler or Alan Cox, or an anonymous coward, or alternating current, or air conditioning |
| 09:03.45 | |zeal| | !-ac |
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| 09:05.59 | ronr | hi, I got a supermicro server running etch with a ICH7 chipset, the server has support for hotplugging sata disk, does debian also support this? |
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| 09:09.30 | sep | ronr, you have to ask "does the kernel support this" since all hardware support comes from the linux kernel. also most sata hotswap comes from a hardware raid card, and in that case it should work |
| 09:10.08 | ronr | sep: ah, ok, and I didn't get the raid card |
| 09:10.09 | sep | ronr, depending on your raid card |
| 09:10.27 | x3on | what packages are installed if i choose the "laptop" category? |
| 09:11.00 | sep | i didn't think the onboard ich7 chip supported hotswap. the hotswap bays are realy only usable when the controller supports it. |
| 09:11.19 | x3on | Basically i want absolutely nothing i dont need, so im thinking of not choosing any bundles and isntalling each package by hand... But if it helps to get obscure hardware or anything like that working, ill choose groups |
| 09:13.20 | ronr | sep: I don't have a raid card, just the ICH7 chipset on the mainboard |
| 09:13.30 | ronr | and a 2.6.18-5 kernel |
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| 09:16.26 | sep | ronr, try it then and see ? |
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| 09:18.21 | ronr | sep: I gotta decide on what to buy |
| 09:18.32 | ronr | so I'll just go safe and use usb hd's |
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| 09:22.00 | Penix | !hug memtest86 |
| 09:22.47 | arthur_ | Hi, I'm installing Debian on a Intel blade, but now it's scanning sda upto z |
| 09:23.05 | arthur_ | As far as i know the blade does not have a scsi |
| 09:23.06 | gg | watch out! the arms are blades! |
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| 09:23.47 | CyberMad | i want to try create backup connection use Dial-Up with Debian, how to do that? do you have any keyword because i'm blank |
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| 09:24.09 | happla | CyberMad: keyword is: ppp connection |
| 09:24.45 | screamingbytes | evenin all, insomnia sucks |
| 09:24.55 | Penix | arthur_: does it have sata? |
| 09:25.03 | minus198 | Why is LC_ALL and LANGUAGE unset under debian? Is it standard somehow? |
| 09:25.22 | Penix | I'd imagine a blade server would have scsi, sata or sas |
| 09:25.35 | Penix | if anything |
| 09:25.36 | mosty | minus198, dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 09:25.47 | minus198 | mosty, i've done that alot of times. |
| 09:25.51 | arthur_ | Penix: is has sata |
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| 09:26.16 | minus198 | Maybe the problem is that I have both en_GB and sv_SE locales... |
| 09:26.36 | Penix | arthur_: then that's why there are sd* devices |
| 09:27.02 | CyberMad | happla and how to share it? use masquerade ? |
| 09:27.21 | mosty | i'm playing with gnuplot, is it possible to plot a graph with the origin at specific pixel coordinates? |
| 09:27.36 | CyberMad | happla is there any package to install of ppp connection? |
| 09:27.44 | CyberMad | apt-get install something? |
| 09:27.55 | Penix | CyberMad: ppp |
| 09:27.58 | Penix | amazing, huh? |
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| 09:28.20 | arthur_ | so i can't remove the mod ... how then do i disable the seach on the devices |
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| 09:28.51 | screamingbytes | if i wanted to create a device in /dev for my dvd, that pointed to my cdrom would i just make a link, ln -sf ... ? or should i use makedev /dev/dvd |
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| 09:29.33 | happla | screamingbytes: ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd should work fine and dandy |
| 09:29.34 | Penix | screamingbytes: you just symlink to the real device |
| 09:29.53 | screamingbytes | kk, tyvm happla and Penix |
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| 09:31.21 | Penix | if you want it to be permanent, you'll probably need to tell udev I guess |
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| 09:32.03 | CyberMad | use ppp.conf or wvdial.conf ? |
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| 09:32.16 | CyberMad | or both just same? |
| 09:32.40 | screamingbytes | lol, resizing gxing crashes X :) |
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| 09:36.29 | CyberMad | any help? |
| 09:37.12 | Haris | How can I remove/purge a package of status pn? |
| 09:37.29 | Haris | I tried aptitude remove --purge package; aptitude purge package. Doesn't help |
| 09:37.33 | arthur_ | Penix: ha now i see i'm on a VMware server (on a blade) so my question is: How do i stop the scanning of all the sd.. options .. he is now bu sdaa :-) |
| 09:37.59 | mythomaniac | is there anyway one could use apt-mirror to mirror www.debian-multimedia.org? |
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| 09:39.22 | mosty | mythomaniac, apt-mirror works on any debian style mirror right? |
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| 09:39.54 | screamingbytes | Haris have u tried synaptic? |
| 09:40.19 | mythomaniac | mosty: apt-mirror states this Proceed indexes: [SSSSPPPPsh: www.debian-multimedia.org///dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory |
| 09:40.26 | erika | Hi! How can i order a hostname to an IP- address under debian? |
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| 09:41.25 | mythomaniac | mosty: and yeah it's said to work on any debian style mirror |
| 09:41.46 | screamingbytes | !synaptic |
| 09:42.02 | mosty | mythomaniac: odd, because that file does exist |
| 09:42.16 | mythomaniac | mosty: hmm... |
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| 09:45.21 | mythomaniac | mosty: while we're on this the subject of mirroring - is there anyway one can setup the mirror repositories on a second hard drive and than have it noted in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 09:46.01 | mosty | mythomaniac, you can add as many entries to sources.list as you like |
| 09:46.23 | mythomaniac | mosty: so hard drive entries can be used than? |
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| 09:46.28 | mosty | yes |
| 09:46.49 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 09:47.15 | Mazingaro | please I got a problem with ssh: it stalled after a while during file copy (scp) |
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| 09:47.46 | mythomaniac | mosty: thanks - ill look at the www.debian-multimedia.org a bit later, right now im in the middle of d/l the 54.1 GiB with apt-mirror ;) |
| 09:48.11 | mosty | mythomaniac, why on earth do you need to mirror it anyway? |
| 09:48.46 | Penix | you'd wanna have a shite load of debian machines for that to make any sense |
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| 09:49.55 | arthur_ | It now has 214 modporobe sd_mod provcesses running |
| 09:50.55 | mosty | arthur_, there is a kernel option, CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN perhaps you can compile your kernel without that? |
| 09:51.06 | Penix | arthur_: can you paste your dmesg and lspci output to pastebin or something? or can you not boot at all? |
| 09:51.32 | mythomaniac | mosty: because at some point in time ill be without a 'net connection and if trash my system ill have every package - also it be nice one day to configure on a server on my local network and then when working on a system just use the server instead of ftp.debian.og |
| 09:51.49 | lokkju_wrk | I've done some searching, but can't seem to find any solution to my issue. I am running the binary nvidia driver, and when I try to go to a virtual console, or try to exit X, my screen gets a bunch of lines, and stays that way till I either reboot, or I restart X - any ideas? |
| 09:51.50 | Penix | mythomaniac: then download the cds or dvds |
| 09:52.01 | Penix | mythomaniac: for the branch you're using |
| 09:52.16 | Penix | mythomaniac: what you're doing is not what you think you're doing |
| 09:52.50 | mythomaniac | Penix: what do you mean "what you're doing is not what you think you're doing" |
| 09:52.57 | mhiku | in the server, theres X icon, how to startup the bash console? |
| 09:53.03 | Penix | mythomaniac: well, it's not what you *need* to do |
| 09:53.17 | Penix | mythomaniac: and it's a huge waste of time, bandwidth and storage space |
| 09:53.21 | mythomaniac | Penix: yeah i know i don't need to do it, but i am ;) |
| 09:53.28 | lokkju_wrk | mhiku, try right clicking |
| 09:53.31 | mythomaniac | Penix: and im not worried about space |
| 09:53.59 | Penix | mythomaniac: think about the remote mirror's bandwidth then |
| 09:54.02 | mhiku | theres no rightclick |
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| 09:54.33 | Penix | mythomaniac: are you using stable? testing? what? |
| 09:54.36 | mhiku | ive connected using vnc, theres no right click or icons |
| 09:54.41 | mythomaniac | Penix: etch |
| 09:54.49 | mythomaniac | Penix: so stable |
| 09:55.55 | Penix | download some etch images then. there's *so* much stuff you'll *never* use if you create a mirror of everything in etch |
| 09:56.07 | Penix | the discs are made by popularity |
| 09:56.35 | Penix | or, just waste time. I don't know why I'm so concerned :) |
| 09:58.08 | mythomaniac | Penix: you do make a good point though on "remote mirror's bandwidth" but id still would like to do this and set it up the way I want it |
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| 10:00.45 | arthur_ | Penix: I'm on the prompt now so dojn't know how to pastebin.. but it is still scanning ... lspci say's SCSI storage controller: buslogic BT-946C (BA80C30) [MultieMaster 10] (rev01) and IDE interface: Intel ........ But i'm shure it does not have any scsi drives |
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| 10:02.19 | eth01 | lspci | grep scsi |
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| 10:04.20 | arthur_ | lspci | grep SCSI > buslogic BT-946C (BA80C30) [MultieMaster 10] (rev01) |
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| 10:09.26 | eth01 | thats a scsi controller |
| 10:09.48 | eth01 | doesn't work very well with vmware either ¬.- |
| 10:11.16 | arthur_ | eth01: there are no drives connect to the scsi device ... i only wanne make it stop scanning for devices on the scsi bus ! |
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| 10:22.53 | borbus | Hi, can anyone recommend some kind of ssh brute force attack blocker? |
| 10:23.47 | Crissi | yes |
| 10:23.52 | Crissi | failtoban |
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| 10:24.27 | Ronin | borbus: or just ignore them heh |
| 10:24.38 | Crissi | http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 10:24.39 | Ronin | after making sure your box is secure of course |
| 10:24.52 | borbus | Yeah I could ignore them but blocking would give me a fuzzy feeling |
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| 10:25.11 | Ronin | borbus: heh |
| 10:25.16 | borbus | It would take years to root my box by brute force |
| 10:26.19 | borbus | The ssh brute forcers are always run on owned boxes aren't they? |
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| 10:28.14 | moshii | borbus: I've seen a box get rooted and then it started go for others.. quite amusing |
| 10:29.13 | borbus | I suppose that's how you make a botnet |
| 10:29.25 | Ronin | its one way at least |
| 10:29.31 | borbus | I wonder if ssh brute forcing is illegal |
| 10:29.38 | Blackgoth | there are more ways that lead to rome |
| 10:29.48 | arthur_ | I have still a ONE modprobe running but i an't kill it with -9 ... any sugessions ? |
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| 10:29.59 | Blackgoth | reboot! |
| 10:30.00 | Blackgoth | xD |
| 10:30.08 | Blackgoth | killall -9 modprobe |
| 10:30.14 | Blackgoth | as root |
| 10:30.18 | borbus | Reboot? A windows user! |
| 10:30.25 | moshii | borbus: depends where you are and what defines illegal |
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| 10:30.46 | moshii | borbus: windows bashing is the lamest thing you can do. meow |
| 10:30.54 | borbus | I found it amusing the other day.. I was talking to somebody on msn.. and they had to install a piece of software and they had to reboot... twice |
| 10:31.06 | OXIj | does anybody know.... how to create alias in GNU assembler? |
| 10:31.15 | Blackgoth | besides, even a kernel, security updates needs a reboot. |
| 10:31.31 | borbus | Windows bashing isn't lame.. windows users bashing linux,.. that's lame |
| 10:32.00 | moshii | borbus: Well sometimes they have a point... like you hardware support is sub-par blah blah |
| 10:32.23 | Blackgoth | im on hold for 30 minutes now! |
| 10:32.42 | borbus | Well, that's 99% of the time because the hardware companies haven't written drivers |
| 10:32.49 | moshii | it's a which point people start to say "but linux is faster, more secure and linus is finnish!" |
| 10:33.01 | borbus | I don't think there's any hardware that actually won't work with linux at all.. |
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| 10:33.09 | borbus | lol |
| 10:33.14 | borbus | Obviously it's all relative |
| 10:33.16 | moshii | borbus: crypto cards |
| 10:33.28 | Blackgoth | borbus: get a random webcam, wont work with v4l |
| 10:33.32 | borbus | Debian on a server is faster than Windows Server though.. no doubt about that |
| 10:33.43 | moshii | borbus: Work with solaris, openbsd.. even windows.... |
| 10:33.45 | Sajes | How do I remove the "Computer" and "<name's> Home" icons from the desktop? |
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| 10:34.16 | moshii | borbus: define faster |
| 10:34.19 | Ronin | Sajes: right click/delete? |
| 10:34.20 | borbus | They can't possibly work with the linux kernel? Or GNU/Linux? Or there's just no drivers? |
| 10:34.58 | moshii | borbus: There are no drives.. and no the won't work with GNU/Linux.. drivers are a kernel issue, below the gnu end of the horse |
| 10:35.01 | Sajes | Ronin, Doesn't work for either. |
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| 10:35.40 | wam | Hi, is there some sort of startup-script-service per user? I'd like rc.d directories for every user in their homes where scripts are called as in /etc/rc*.d as the user. |
| 10:35.45 | borbus | Does memcached work on windows? |
| 10:36.13 | moshii | wam: on system start or login? |
| 10:36.20 | wam | moshii: startup |
| 10:36.48 | moshii | wam: hmm you'd have to script something like that, it's probably not wise letting normal users have that much power though |
| 10:37.25 | borbus | moshii, by faster I suppose I mean much quicker and easier to get everythign set up.. I haven't run benchmarks |
| 10:37.26 | Ronin | Sajes: gnome or kde? gnome control or the kde equiv |
| 10:37.36 | wam | moshii: it's just that they run their servers and they should come up automatically on system startup too (started as the user of course). Currently, this is accomplished with cron, where each user calles the start-script every 5 minutes. |
| 10:37.40 | Sajes | Ronin, Gnome. |
| 10:37.42 | borbus | When I ran server 2003 it took me ages to set up the terminal server |
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| 10:37.53 | borbus | Which is the only way to control it remotely afai |
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| 10:38.07 | moshii | borbus: all subjective benchmarks that don't really make one better than the other |
| 10:38.11 | borbus | Bit of a contrast to setting up ssh |
| 10:38.38 | borbus | Linux is just different to windows though |
| 10:38.43 | borbus | Well GNU/Linux is |
| 10:38.59 | borbus | You could consider apache part of debian I suppose |
| 10:39.21 | borbus | And apache is much better than IIS |
| 10:39.30 | moshii | wam: you could do a little loop in rc.local to check for an file in each users home, you'd have to make sure those scripts didn't get root privs though |
| 10:39.48 | moshii | borbus: and apache can run on windows.. |
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| 10:40.22 | moshii | borbus: and mac os, so that makes macos better than linux and windows |
| 10:40.27 | borbus | Yeah but it's more of a pain |
| 10:40.53 | borbus | It depends what you consider the OS really |
| 10:41.00 | wam | moshii: right - would it be safe to run "sudo -u user $user_home/rc.d/*" (written as meta) ? |
| 10:41.03 | borbus | Because apache is as much a part of linux as it is of windwos |
| 10:41.16 | borbus | But it could be considered a part of debian |
| 10:41.32 | borbus | MS would say their webserver is part of windows |
| 10:41.59 | moshii | borbus: apache would say their webserver can run on a variety of oses |
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| 10:42.34 | borbus | Yeah like most good software |
| 10:42.43 | moshii | borbus: What I'm trying to say; things like apt are the reason to use debian, not that it's more magical and shiney than the other guys |
| 10:43.14 | DustyBin | anyone know of a tool what uses lame to re-encode mp3s to different bit rates? |
| 10:43.21 | happla | moshii: you mean the package system works =) |
| 10:43.25 | happla | moshii: I take this as a big plus |
| 10:43.27 | borbus | DustyBin, erm.. lame? |
| 10:43.33 | DustyBin | oh yes :-D |
| 10:43.43 | happla | DustyBin: You can use lame, lame is a tool |
| 10:43.45 | moshii | happla: bingo. |
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| 10:43.49 | happla | DustyBin: much like you ;) |
| 10:43.51 | DustyBin | borbus: but it says this: lame - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder |
| 10:44.04 | borbus | Oh.. lol, that's from when it wasn't |
| 10:44.09 | borbus | It used to be a patch |
| 10:44.14 | borbus | Now it is a full encoder |
| 10:44.16 | DustyBin | its a patch? |
| 10:44.18 | DustyBin | oh ok |
| 10:44.50 | moshii | is lame in debian? I thought it was encumbered-soft |
| 10:44.53 | borbus | They used to just have a patch because of the legal issues with mp3 |
| 10:45.10 | borbus | But they just merged all the source in and only distribute source now |
| 10:45.20 | borbus | Which is considered ok because of free speech |
| 10:45.37 | borbus | I don't think any distro has lame binaries |
| 10:45.41 | borbus | Because of the legal issue |
| 10:45.42 | moshii | I thought it was a patch to the reference implemention.. |
| 10:45.49 | borbus | Yeah it was |
| 10:46.07 | borbus | But then they just started distributing the reference code themselves |
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| 10:46.35 | moshii | and that wasn't redistributable.. what it is now is a gradually re-written version |
| 10:46.46 | DustyBin | ive installed lame on lenny |
| 10:46.50 | DustyBin | the man pages are big |
| 10:46.58 | borbus | You mean a clean room rewrite? |
| 10:47.18 | borbus | I don't think lame has had a clean room rewrite... and anyway.. the issue is patents, not copyright |
| 10:47.36 | DustyBin | lame looks like a seriously powerful tool |
| 10:47.53 | moshii | borbus: dunno I can't be arsed to look it up. There's probably an incorrect write-up on wp about it though |
| 10:48.05 | Sajes | Ugh. Is there something wrong with the wine in the debian repos? One in the ubuntu repos works fine, but the one in debian isn't working with any of my games. |
| 10:48.20 | borbus | lame isn't that powerful... vorbis more powerful technically |
| 10:48.33 | DustyBin | "ID3v2 found. Be aware that the ID3 tag is currently lost when transcoding." |
| 10:48.43 | DustyBin | does that mean my mp3 will have no title? |
| 10:48.54 | borbus | DustyBin, why are you encoding mp3 from mp3? |
| 10:48.57 | DustyBin | yes |
| 10:49.00 | DustyBin | for my radio |
| 10:49.00 | moshii | borbus: trumpting the foss horn right? |
| 10:49.16 | DustyBin | my shoutcast stream uses 128kbps 44100 stereo |
| 10:49.23 | borbus | Oh right.. well you will lose id3 tags.. you can put them back with id3v2 |
| 10:49.34 | borbus | moshii, yes.. but AAC is more powerful too |
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| 10:49.42 | DustyBin | i dont need id3 tags, as long as the mp3 are titled ok |
| 10:49.50 | borbus | It will have a filename |
| 10:49.57 | borbus | Me too |
| 10:50.07 | DustyBin | one day i will switch over to icecast |
| 10:50.12 | DustyBin | but not yet |
| 10:50.19 | borbus | I use icecast |
| 10:50.23 | borbus | Vorbis is great for that |
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| 10:50.27 | DustyBin | yep |
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| 10:50.36 | borbus | 32k vorbis actually sounds good |
| 10:50.39 | borbus | It's pretty amazing |
| 10:50.48 | borbus | Well it's q0 |
| 10:50.48 | DustyBin | at the moment i use mp3 + shoutcast, later on this year ill chage to ogg + icecast :D |
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| 10:51.15 | borbus | Definitely worth it.. only problem you might have is WMP users complaining |
| 10:51.21 | DustyBin | "Encoding as 44.1 kHz 128 kbps j-stereo MPEG-1 Layer III (11x) qval=2" <-- perfik :D |
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| 10:51.29 | mitziyahu | anyone has experience with LSI megaraid on debian? |
| 10:51.32 | borbus | But Winamp supports vorbis out of the box these days |
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| 10:51.37 | borbus | And they invented shoutcas |
| 10:51.59 | DustyBin | thats why i use shoutcast, because the were the first ones at it |
| 10:52.05 | DustyBin | even if it isnt open source etc |
| 10:52.11 | borbus | You should do a vbr one for fun just to see lame's nice vbr graphs :D |
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| 10:52.22 | DustyBin | i will start testing soon |
| 10:52.38 | borbus | For lame you just have to do -V 2 |
| 10:52.43 | DustyBin | its extremely important to encode your mp3s for your stream, dont let the client / server do it for you |
| 10:52.44 | borbus | Or whatever numver |
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| 10:52.51 | borbus | 8-0 |
| 10:52.55 | borbus | 0 being best quality |
| 10:53.02 | DustyBin | aye nce |
| 10:53.02 | borbus | A bit like Vorbis's quality settings |
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| 10:54.01 | borbus | debhelper, simple backport |
| 10:54.06 | borbus | Hmm.. |
| 10:54.11 | borbus | I forgot how to use that bot |
| 10:54.36 | borbus | Or was it apt.. |
| 10:54.39 | borbus | apt, simple backport |
| 10:54.44 | borbus | Hmm |
| 10:54.54 | borbus | Someone tell me how to do a simple backport again :P |
| 10:54.56 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.06 | borbus | Oh.. dpkg.. lol |
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| 10:55.16 | borbus | I wonder who I just hilighted |
| 10:56.03 | jelly | borbus: another bot, one that serves a different purpose |
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| 11:10.44 | abuyazan | hello |
| 11:11.01 | abuyazan | i just installed debian etch but i cannot find killall command |
| 11:11.07 | abuyazan | how can i install it ? |
| 11:11.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | !find killall |
| 11:11.42 | saintiss | psmisc |
| 11:11.44 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'killall' (6 of 10): (/usr/bin/killall) in admin/psmisc ;; (/sbin/killall5) in admin/sysvinit-utils ;; (/usr/bin/pkillall) in utils/librapi2-tools ;; (/usr/lib/util-vserver/legacy/vserverkillall) in net/util-vserver ;; (/usr/share/zsh/functions/Completion/Unix/_killall) in shells/zsh ;; (/usr/share/zsh-beta/functions/Completion/Unix/_killall) in shells/zsh-beta. |
| 11:12.29 | abuyazan | thanks saintiss , it works now |
| 11:12.37 | saintiss | np |
| 11:12.47 | ShredZ | Will there be a new debian stable in 2008 ? |
| 11:12.54 | ShredZ | (just wondering, don't shoot me) |
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| 11:13.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | when did etch come out? |
| 11:13.41 | borbus | I think lenny is planned for 2008 |
| 11:13.42 | logd | hi i did dist-upgrade yesterday night and now it says 199 packets not fully installed ! |
| 11:14.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | logd, what did you break? |
| 11:15.10 | logd | i dunno i just leave dist-upgrade do it's job iti said 211 stuff to install 1 to update 0 to remove i told him YES and now it says 199 packets not fully installed |
| 11:15.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | logd, have you installed anything recently? |
| 11:15.38 | borbus | Hmm.. why did you do dist-upgrade? |
| 11:15.48 | borbus | I don't think it is recommended |
| 11:15.49 | logd | wha's wrong ? |
| 11:15.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | logd, or changed your sources.list? |
| 11:16.06 | logd | no |
| 11:16.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | borbus, aptitude is recomended, but lots of people still use apt-get |
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| 11:16.21 | borbus | I do.. hmm |
| 11:16.29 | borbus | Why is aptitude recommended? |
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| 11:16.41 | logd | btw if dist-upgrade isn't reccomene dwhat's the recommended one? |
| 11:16.48 | Sajes | What's the difference between aptitude and apt-get? |
| 11:16.52 | wkornewald | hi, how difficult is it to maintain a vServer running Debian? |
| 11:17.05 | petemc | wkornewald: 17 |
| 11:17.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | aptitude, has package tracking, apparently smarter package resolution, and a few other things i dont remember |
| 11:17.09 | wkornewald | I'd like to not spend more than 30min per week |
| 11:17.13 | borbus | Well aptitude is a whole front end for apt |
| 11:17.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | logd, aptitude |
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| 11:17.21 | borbus | It's like synaptic but text based |
| 11:17.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | borbus, it can be used on the cli |
| 11:17.42 | logd | but now how do i recover? |
| 11:17.46 | borbus | But you can use aptitude just like apt-get like aptitude install packege |
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| 11:17.49 | Sajes | I see. Thanks for the heads up, I'll use aptitude instead of apt-get now. o_o; |
| 11:17.54 | wkornewald | IOW how many hours do I have to spend per week maintain a vServer? |
| 11:18.12 | petemc | wkornewald: if it doesnt break, perhaps none - thats a nonsensical question |
| 11:18.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | borbus, yes |
| 11:18.39 | _AleX_ | hi all. I've a mailserver running clamav-daemon on a debian etch. I've just do an update, and now clamd don't create /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl .. an idea ? |
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| 11:18.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | !why not dist upgrade |
| 11:18.52 | dpkg | If you're going to use apt-get dist-upgrade, when you run the command, you need to make absolutely sure that it isn't going to remove anything you actually want to have installed. If it does, use apt-get install to install specific packages that have been held back on apt-get upgrade, and only allow upgrades that don't remove things that you want. |
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| 11:19.04 | wkornewald | petemc, what could break? |
| 11:19.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, what did you update? |
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| 11:19.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | logd, pastebin your sources.list, and the error mesage you get |
| 11:19.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | (eg the breaking packages stuff) |
| 11:19.33 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 11:19.35 | wkornewald | petemc, won't I have to install updates, check the logs, keep the system secure, ...? |
| 11:19.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | logd, then run `dpkg --configure --pending` |
| 11:19.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, use dist-upgrade, not upgrade |
| 11:19.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, what release of debian? |
| 11:20.07 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: stable Etch |
| 11:20.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm |
| 11:20.24 | petemc | wkornewald: have to? no |
| 11:20.41 | mitziyahu | anyone fimiliar with megaraid? |
| 11:20.45 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: apt-get dist-upgrade => 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded |
| 11:20.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | wkornewald, look at apt-cron+logwatch, keeping the system secure is a bit of a random phrase too |
| 11:20.57 | petemc | mitziyahu: lots of people use dell servers, so yes |
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| 11:21.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | !tell mitziyahu about anyone |
| 11:21.42 | mitziyahu | I can't seem to get the megariad monitor to work :S |
| 11:22.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, cool. now and then an update will pull in new packages, upgrade misses them |
| 11:22.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, did you reboot? |
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| 11:23.59 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: i can't reboot easily, it's a production server ... |
| 11:24.35 | _AleX_ | and rebooting is not a solution (we're not on M$ ... ) |
| 11:24.46 | mitziyahu | meh, thats the dumbest thing i've heard |
| 11:24.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, so thats a no? :) check the permissions on /var/run/clamav |
| 11:24.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, i wasnt suggesting it, i was asking if it was already done :) |
| 11:25.32 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: i've try to set /var/run/clamav to rwxrwxrwx and restart clamd, nothing change |
| 11:26.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, checked the logs? |
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| 11:26.13 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: nothing in message ;( |
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| 11:26.24 | mitziyahu | don |
| 11:26.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, :/ syslog/clam av's log? |
| 11:26.32 | mitziyahu | don't it have a seperate log? |
| 11:27.51 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: nothing wrong in /var/log/clamav-daemon.log .. |
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| 11:29.50 | mitziyahu | it has no exceptions no errors and the logs are empty? |
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| 11:30.48 | _AleX_ | grep LocalSocket /etc/clamav/clamd.conf => LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl |
| 11:31.17 | arthur_ | For internal use i need the simple ftpd .. i did a apt-get .... but now i only can find the doc ? |
| 11:31.49 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: i don't understand ... It's works fine before the update, the config file /etc/clamav/clamd.conf has not been changed by the update ... and now it dont work |
| 11:31.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | !tell arthur_ about ftp must die |
| 11:32.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, check the changelog(s) and see if they meantion anything that sounds like it could have broken things |
| 11:32.28 | mitziyahu | ftp must die? O_o |
| 11:32.34 | mitziyahu | !tell mitziyahu about ftp must die |
| 11:32.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | !tell mitziyahu about msg dpkg |
| 11:33.11 | mitziyahu | meh |
| 11:33.20 | mitziyahu | stop being ghey man:\ |
| 11:33.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | pardon? |
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| 11:35.07 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: nothing about that in changelog ... |
| 11:35.23 | mitziyahu | how hard is it to type "message the bot, dont use !tell" that you had to usetell |
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| 11:35.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | mitziyahu, how hard was it to /msg the bot in the first place? :) |
| 11:35.57 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, not really sure, start by fileing a bug. |
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| 11:36.25 | mib_hZnQubmU | hi all |
| 11:36.38 | _AleX_ | Kamping_Kaiser: i'll try to find the solution .. thanks for help |
| 11:37.14 | mitziyahu | Kamping_Kaiser im don't sit here all day learning how to use the bot or w/e, in contrary to common belief |
| 11:37.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | _AleX_, good luck |
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| 11:38.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | mitziyahu, dont throw a tantrum. if you dont like being told how to use the bot, stop whinging about not knowing |
| 11:38.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | mib_hZnQubmU, hi |
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| 11:39.34 | mitziyahu | you got it all backward, my 'friend' |
| 11:39.47 | mitziyahu | i seem to think using a bot for everything is dimwited, thats it |
| 11:40.43 | mitziyahu | meh |
| 11:40.45 | mitziyahu | weak |
| 11:41.06 | psyklops | !list |
| 11:41.06 | dpkg | one warez list being sent to psyklops |
| 11:41.10 | psyklops | :P |
| 11:41.27 | mitziyahu | lol |
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| 11:51.14 | twiggz | using a bot for everything is pretty dimwitted. im glad im not the only one with that opinion. |
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| 11:52.32 | twiggz | just think about the poor shmuck that had all that time with nothing better to do but set that annoying thing up. |
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| 11:53.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | i dont think the setup was as hard as your making out as it happens |
| 11:56.21 | twiggz | hmm, adding all of those links and other instructions had to have been quite tedious seeing as how the POS has an answer for EVERYTHING. |
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| 11:56.52 | oDesk | after installing apache-ssl when i browse to folder which contain .php files i get download message for the index.php file |
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| 11:57.15 | oDesk | i tried to modify the DefaultType to application/x-httpd-php |
| 11:57.18 | twiggz | And I dont recall saying that I thought setting it up was hard. |
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| 11:57.35 | oDesk | then restart the apache but still same thing any suggestion ? |
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| 12:00.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | twiggz, anyone can add to it. |
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| 12:00.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | oDesk, #apache will probably help, heres a bit quiet atm |
| 12:00.56 | lero | anyone know a woody mirror still active? |
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| 12:01.07 | twiggz | Wonderful. That just makes it the best most useful invention known to irc. |
| 12:01.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | archive.debian.org |
| 12:01.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | twiggz, if you dont like it, /ignore it. |
| 12:01.30 | twiggz | I do. |
| 12:01.34 | lero | Kamping_Kaiser thanks ;) |
| 12:01.38 | cake | anyone know how i can make my initrd recognize my volume group? |
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| 12:01.52 | cake | the box drops into busybox shell |
| 12:02.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | lero, np, not sure if its got binarys or just source though. |
| 12:02.10 | cake | if i issue the vgchange -a y cmd, it recognizes the volume group and i can mount my root LV |
| 12:02.10 | mbroeker | oDesk, try a2enmod php5 && /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 12:02.16 | cake | but it doesnt happen by itself |
| 12:02.33 | cake | seems the scripts/local-top/lvm script doesnt do what its supposed to? |
| 12:03.33 | twiggz | My wife makes the worst coffee. |
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| 12:03.45 | lero | Kamping_Kaiser i need to install a rsh server on this woody machine. but it's seem it doesn't have rsh-redone-server like sarge |
| 12:03.56 | lero | i need to use tcpd? |
| 12:04.20 | mbroeker | twiggz, i would suggest a divorce. |
| 12:04.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | lero, i never used woody |
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| 12:12.42 | fireba11 | lero : woody is horribly outdated, upgrade |
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| 12:21.32 | lilalinux | Any idea, why copying via CIFS may be slow (1mbs) where rsync reaches >30mbs? |
| 12:22.17 | mitziyahu | cifs is always slow :X |
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| 12:22.33 | lilalinux | mitziyahu: alternatives? |
| 12:23.02 | jolt^d4 | lilalinux: changed the mount options for rsize/wsize? |
| 12:23.25 | lilalinux | jolt^d4: e.g.? |
| 12:23.34 | jolt^d4 | lilalinux: that and enable different options in smb.conf on the server (which have a # on them default) |
| 12:23.37 | mitziyahu | dunno i use ftp or rsync for lan stuff |
| 12:23.46 | jolt^d4 | lilalinux: e.g. rsize=65536,wsize=65536 |
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| 12:24.18 | lilalinux | jolt^d4: thx, i'll thry these |
| 12:24.44 | jolt^d4 | lilalinux: look for socket options in man smb.conf |
| 12:25.31 | jolt^d4 | lilalinux: I think there is some speedX.txt in the samba dist if you want to know more |
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| 12:28.17 | wam | does the "ip" program when adding an ip address to an interface also send gratious arps?! I can add, remove on box1 and then add on box 2 and ping runs smoothly ;) |
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| 12:41.37 | Super_Cat_Frog | hi - how do i submit a bug report for a security hole in a package included in debian? |
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| 12:43.46 | lilalinux | Super_Cat_Frog: bugs.debian.org? |
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| 12:45.01 | Super_Cat_Frog | lilalinux: is there not a private place to submit security problems? |
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| 12:47.23 | lilalinux | Super_Cat_Frog: contact the maintainer |
| 12:47.41 | drcode | hi all |
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| 12:47.45 | RvGaTe_ | heya |
| 12:47.48 | drcode | if I have old debian release, where I can find source.list so I can update it? |
| 12:48.00 | drcode | I want to use apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 12:48.08 | petemc | drcode: /etc/apt/ - you would want to check out the release notes |
| 12:48.08 | DawnLight | Super_Cat_Frog: http://www.debian.org/security/faq |
| 12:48.24 | RvGaTe_ | exit |
| 12:48.36 | drcode | hmm |
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| 12:48.46 | drcode | I don't have update cd |
| 12:48.53 | drcode | is there source.list update on deb site? |
| 12:49.09 | petemc | drcode: a what? |
| 12:49.19 | petemc | drcode: which release are you running currently? |
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| 12:49.42 | drcode | I want to tell sources.list the new debian relase |
| 12:49.51 | drcode | I mean to download the new pkgs |
| 12:49.58 | petemc | yes, that much is clear |
| 12:50.13 | mitziyahu | dr just change the sources.list |
| 12:50.19 | mitziyahu | drcode |
| 12:51.12 | drcode | yes |
| 12:51.15 | drcode | to what? |
| 12:51.24 | drcode | I have etch main |
| 12:51.34 | Ronin | !tell drcode about sources.list |
| 12:51.44 | drcode | thanx |
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| 13:02.55 | x3on | hey, I just installed a netinst of etch then dist-upgraded to Lenny. the last time i did it, i installed WM's like gnome and XFCE (i think as root) and then could only startx as root - which would give me errors about running x as root. How can i install a WM as a regular user - or another way - without these errors? |
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| 13:03.37 | arthur_ | hi someone knows about gnutils and Diffie Hellman prime... i get a error "prime sent by server not acceptable (not long enaugh) is there a rfc on this ? |
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| 13:08.38 | LoneTech | wow, that mishmash of terms reminds me of a friend of mine. |
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| 13:13.04 | x3on | !! |
| 13:13.04 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 13:14.07 | mitziyahu | !! |
| 13:14.07 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 13:14.09 | mitziyahu | !? |
| 13:14.11 | mitziyahu | !# |
| 13:14.11 | dpkg | [#] HASH DAMMIT, HASH! NO! OCTOTHORPE! |
| 13:14.36 | mitziyahu | !whats wrong with you |
| 13:14.36 | dpkg | You're looking kinda down to meee! |
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| 13:14.47 | mitziyahu | lol! |
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| 13:15.15 | fengor | no its !lol i believe |
| 13:15.30 | mitziyahu | whats the name of that song? |
| 13:15.57 | deconvolution | hello, I am using libnss-ldap to manage my user database. however, using finger to find a user is extremely slow. the ldap server is on the same machine and ldap returns results every fast. Does someone help me to detect the problem? ? |
| 13:16.41 | x3on | Should I install XFCE as root or normal user? |
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| 13:17.05 | azeem | x3on: you should use your favourite Debian package manager to install it |
| 13:17.13 | azeem | those only work as root, or via sudo |
| 13:17.16 | fengor | man aptitude, man apt-get |
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| 13:17.53 | mbroeker | deconvolution, you need to start the nscd service to cache the results and speedup a new lookup. |
| 13:17.58 | Greek-Boy | I'm running Debian etch on an Intel Server. I am never able to connect to the box via ssh or ping it but if I ping any network from the box itself then it is reachable for a short while before it stops responding to network again. |
| 13:18.28 | Greek-Boy | at first I thought this might be IPv6 issues so I disabled that. still nothing |
| 13:18.57 | LoneTech | Greek-Boy: is it the only machine with its IP address? |
| 13:19.03 | deconvolution | mbroeker: so libnss is typically very slow to lookup a ldap server even it is on the same machine? |
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| 13:19.35 | Greek-Boy | LoneTech: yes |
| 13:19.38 | mbroeker | deconvolution, yes it is |
| 13:20.10 | LoneTech | you may want to trace(route|path) and check arp tables. it sounds like the route back gets lost somehow. |
| 13:20.16 | mitziyahu | Greek-Boy: i had an issue similiar to that when i uncommented old ips by mistake |
| 13:20.48 | mitziyahu | maybe someother machine is misconfigured and takes your ip |
| 13:20.51 | Greek-Boy | LoneTech: I had a similiar problem on a HP ML180 running debian etch. but pings didn't bring it up again, it would become unreachable until I used ifdown and ifup. |
| 13:20.51 | deconvolution | mbroeker, why it is so slow anyway? (a ldapsearch returns results is less than a second...) |
| 13:20.54 | mbroeker | deconvolution, to speedup things: nscd and a listen ipc socket in /var/ |
| 13:21.25 | deconvolution | mbroeker, thanks for the advice, I thought nscd is just optional package |
| 13:21.59 | mbroeker | deconvolution, try it out: i think that nscd brings you a performance boost right now. |
| 13:22.22 | deconvolution | mbroeker, I am installing it |
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| 13:23.02 | deconvolution | by the way, should nscd be installed on client side or server side? |
| 13:23.19 | Greek-Boy | LoneTech: what do you think was the problem on the ML180? |
| 13:23.33 | xk | hmm |
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| 13:26.54 | Greek-Boy | LoneTech: Its not the route getting lost because I just tried to ping it from the same network and its the same problem |
| 13:27.48 | LoneTech | Greek-Boy: check the ARP tables on the pinging machine. if the mac address changes, you want to find that second NIC. |
| 13:28.09 | arthur_ | in what package can i find gnutls=cli-debug ? |
| 13:28.12 | LoneTech | sometimes IRQ problems with the network interface give symptoms like these too |
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| 13:29.08 | enouf | arthur_: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:29.09 | Greek-Boy | LoneTech: I installed from the first release candidate but I did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade from uk.debian.org |
| 13:29.29 | Greek-Boy | LoneTech: The funny thing was that the kernel image didn't get updated coz there is no new one? |
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| 13:33.22 | mitziyahu | sup enouf |
| 13:33.52 | deconvolution | mbroeker, I found the problem, it is described in http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg151644.html |
| 13:33.59 | mbroeker | deconvolution, As a side note: the caching nameserver nscd needs to be restarted everytime you change ldap stuff. Or it will hold the cached, old values. |
| 13:34.01 | enouf | mitziyahu: yo yo |
| 13:34.13 | mitziyahu | enouf: wazzaaa ho |
| 13:34.18 | mitziyahu | hows it hangin |
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| 13:34.44 | enouf | pretty smokey round here with all this bong activity :-P |
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| 13:34.57 | mitziyahu | hehe |
| 13:35.10 | mitziyahu | being tired is the best high there is |
| 13:35.26 | mitziyahu | free, non addictive, and doesn't affect your health - in a way : |
| 13:35.27 | mitziyahu | :p |
| 13:35.37 | deconvolution | mbroeker, now even I disabled nscd, the speed is still good. libnss-ldap tls_cacertdir section must be disabled. |
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| 13:36.35 | mbroeker | alright: deconvolution: best results are archived with ldapi:// |
| 13:37.47 | deconvolution | mbroeker, alright, thanks! |
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| 13:39.57 | Greek-Boy | i always get |
| 13:39.58 | Greek-Boy | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 13:39.58 | Greek-Boy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.28 | ampex | Greek-Boy: manually apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 |
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| 13:47.27 | Greek-Boy | thanks ampex |
| 13:47.33 | Greek-Boy | why does it hold it back if I may ask? |
| 13:48.02 | ampex | Greek-Boy: I'm not 100% sure, but I'm assuming because you're running the same major/minor version? |
| 13:48.20 | hark | Greek-Boy: /msg dpkg held back |
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| 13:50.28 | milligan | Um, anyone here familiar with gimp? I've got an image, and I've cut out the top of it. Now I want to take the piece that I cut out, and create a new image from that. (The new image needs to be the same size as the piece I cut out). How do I do that ? |
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| 13:50.49 | XoX | why does init listens to /dev/initctl |
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| 13:51.46 | justin | XoX: for telinit |
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| 13:52.20 | gui____ | hi |
| 13:52.25 | gui____ | is there something special to do with ISP to use multihoming bgp ? |
| 13:52.29 | justin | milligan: create a new image, the default size should be the same as the peice in the clipboard |
| 13:52.39 | milligan | justin, nope, it isn't :( |
| 13:53.15 | justin | milligan: works for me |
| 13:53.33 | eth01 | i'm running x86_64, and debian hasn't started eth0? |
| 13:53.46 | eth01 | when i start it, it says something about missing flags or something. |
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| 13:54.24 | jolt^d4 | gui____: What do you mean? |
| 13:55.04 | milligan | justin, found it... Copy selection, then "paste as new image" |
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| 13:55.30 | eth01 | why won't eth0 start though? |
| 13:55.53 | gui____ | jolt^d4, I want to install 2 lines and I'm searching convenience to use multihoming bgp protocol |
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| 13:59.43 | mitziyahu | eth01: whats the exact error? |
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| 14:00.04 | jolt^d4 | gui____: Do you have your own AS? |
| 14:00.08 | jolt^d4 | or ASN |
| 14:00.33 | gui____ | not for the moment |
| 14:00.42 | gui____ | I need to subscribe |
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| 14:01.14 | XoX | justin, i dont have telinit |
| 14:01.20 | jolt^d4 | gui____: Just read the advanced networking guide |
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| 14:01.30 | eth01 | mitziyahu, 1 sec. |
| 14:01.30 | jolt^d4 | XoX: It is a command you use to modify the inittab while running |
| 14:01.41 | gui____ | jolt^d4, where? :) |
| 14:01.42 | XoX | oh i do |
| 14:02.00 | jolt^d4 | gui____: You pretty much need two interfaces, a box that can do routing and zebra or any routing engine |
| 14:02.15 | eth01 | mitziyahu, error whilst getting interface flags. |
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| 14:02.25 | XoX | jolt^d4, thanks |
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| 14:02.58 | eth01 | failed to bring up eth0 device. |
| 14:03.02 | jolt^d4 | gui____: ttp://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=linux+advanced+routing+howto |
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| 14:03.16 | jolt^d4 | whit an added h in the beginning of course |
| 14:03.26 | mitziyahu | eth01 check http://wiki.debianhelp.org/pmwiki.php/DebianHelpPages/SettingUpEthernet out |
| 14:03.29 | jolt^d4 | XoX: use can use telinit q to re-read the inittab |
| 14:03.30 | gui____ | jolt^d4, mmm , but may I need to ask something to my ISPprovider? |
| 14:03.35 | gui____ | -provider |
| 14:03.44 | XoX | jolt^d4, why not use init directly ? |
| 14:03.48 | jolt^d4 | gui____: You must have a BGP feed |
| 14:03.48 | kromagg | the udev readme (in sid) states that it should be calling ifupdown with the --allow-hotplug switch when I plug in a network cable |
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| 14:04.02 | kromagg | allow-hotplug isn't documented very well though and it doesn't seem to do anything |
| 14:04.12 | jolt^d4 | XoX: telinit is just a symlink to init :) |
| 14:04.15 | kromagg | is the readme outdated or is something going wrong along the way? |
| 14:04.15 | eth01 | SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device .. that's what i'm getting. |
| 14:05.11 | jelly | jolt^d4: but it's more polite to tel init "q", instead of ordering it |
| 14:05.38 | jolt^d4 | gui____: there is multiple ways of doing routing. Just using two cards and check which ones are up is one way. But if you want to be part of the routing of your ISP, then you have a whole lot of information gathering to do |
| 14:05.58 | jolt^d4 | jelly: :) |
| 14:06.08 | mitziyahu | eth01 you sure you can see the device? try lspci |
| 14:06.25 | gui____ | jolt^d4, that's my problem |
| 14:06.44 | jolt^d4 | gui____: Start with the advanced routing howto |
| 14:06.59 | gui____ | jolt^d4, the goal is to double the ISP line |
| 14:07.46 | jolt^d4 | gui____: then ask your provider about a BGP feed and set rules based on destination AS |
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| 14:08.07 | jolt^d4 | gui____: Then your routin daemon can do descitions based on that |
| 14:08.41 | gui____ | jolt^d4, I see |
| 14:08.56 | gui____ | jolt^d4, I go learning :) thank you |
| 14:09.03 | jolt^d4 | gui____: np |
| 14:09.15 | eth01 | it's saying there is no device for eth0, but lspci says different. |
| 14:09.25 | eth01 | it's an onboard nvidia gigabit ethernet port. |
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| 14:09.44 | LimCore | damn |
| 14:09.49 | LimCore | how do you spell prospound |
| 14:09.54 | LimCore | meaning: move forward in time |
| 14:10.38 | mitziyahu | postpone? |
| 14:10.57 | eth01 | postpone is when you cancel something. |
| 14:11.03 | kLinGo | hello, i'm trying to setup mixed network, i installed samba on debian, activated samba's WINS server and edited /etc/nsswitch.conf but it's still not working 100% |
| 14:11.03 | Greek-Boy | if patch says 1 out of 1 hunk failed does that mean the patch wasn't applied? How do I check if a patch is applied or not? |
| 14:11.07 | mitziyahu | eth01 try ifconfig -a |
| 14:11.09 | eth01 | the football match was postponed due to bad weather. |
| 14:11.14 | LimCore | and to move forward in time? |
| 14:11.15 | azeem | so not cancelled |
| 14:11.16 | LimCore | do it later |
| 14:11.18 | mitziyahu | eth01 and postpone is when you set it to another time, not cance |
| 14:11.21 | azeem | LimCore: postpone |
| 14:11.26 | LimCore | oh ok |
| 14:11.28 | mitziyahu | wow |
| 14:11.35 | mitziyahu | am i ignored or something?:S |
| 14:11.35 | kLinGo | i'am able to nmblookup local hosts, but not ping them |
| 14:11.40 | eth01 | it can mean both, depending on the context :) |
| 14:11.44 | mitziyahu | no |
| 14:11.51 | eth01 | mitziyahu, i have tried that, i get the same. |
| 14:11.54 | mitziyahu | you postpone something to another time :s |
| 14:12.12 | LimCore | lol @ eth01 |
| 14:12.15 | mitziyahu | eth01 do you see an eth0? or something different |
| 14:12.24 | eth01 | i see, eth0 and lo |
| 14:12.26 | LimCore | <sexy girl> lets potpone our sex date! <eth01> ok... :(((( |
| 14:12.34 | mitziyahu | haha |
| 14:12.46 | LimCore | lol eth01 |
| 14:12.54 | eth01 | and you shouldn't have sex on the first date, that's not so good. |
| 14:13.11 | mitziyahu | yes it is |
| 14:13.12 | LimCore | you have strange definitions of failure lol |
| 14:13.17 | mitziyahu | specially if you want AIDS |
| 14:13.28 | azeem | people, please get back to topic |
| 14:13.37 | mitziyahu | !offtopic |
| 14:13.39 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. please join #debian-offtopic |
| 14:13.50 | LimCore | ups, debian |
| 14:14.45 | mitziyahu | eth01 well, what do you see in the eth0 part|? |
| 14:15.06 | kLinGo | dpkg: i didn't know this too, so am i leaving to offtopic. |
| 14:15.20 | eth01 | i seem to have fixed it. |
| 14:15.27 | mitziyahu | how :?> |
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| 14:15.33 | eth01 | it was called eth1 in 'interfaces' |
| 14:15.50 | eth01 | so i just restarted networking, and then did ifup eth1 |
| 14:15.50 | mitziyahu | eh :e |
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| 14:15.56 | mitziyahu | man |
| 14:15.58 | eth01 | but i've rebooted and it's not doing it automatically |
| 14:15.59 | mitziyahu | thats not fixing i |
| 14:15.59 | mitziyahu | t |
| 14:16.08 | mitziyahu | thats using the correct interface name P: |
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| 14:16.30 | mitziyahu | now that i can't help you with, since im not that keen to linux |
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| 14:18.29 | jolt^d4 | eth01: does it say "auto eth1" somewhere? |
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| 14:19.12 | eth01 | its changed from eth0, to eth1, and now eth2. |
| 14:19.18 | eth01 | why can't it just work automatically =/ |
| 14:19.35 | wols | eth01: MAC changed? |
| 14:19.59 | eth01 | wols, not that i know of. |
| 14:20.02 | mitziyahu | jolt^d4: how can you change an eth device's name? |
| 14:20.09 | eth01 | wols, it kept saying that there was no device for eth0. |
| 14:20.16 | mitziyahu | eth01: maybe have a look at /etc/network/interfaces and add autoeth1 |
| 14:20.17 | eth01 | but it said different if it were eth1 or eth2. |
| 14:20.21 | mitziyahu | auto eth1 |
| 14:20.41 | wols | mitziyahu: ifrename or udev |
| 14:21.20 | mitziyahu | what if i dont have both/ |
| 14:21.20 | mitziyahu | ? |
| 14:21.34 | wols | then you don't run debian? |
| 14:21.36 | eth01 | i think it's always going to have problems, i think it's easier just to run sarge instead :P |
| 14:21.46 | wols | eth01: not really |
| 14:22.01 | eth01 | according to some site on the internet, it's a kernel issue. |
| 14:22.05 | mitziyahu | wols hm, yes, i do |
| 14:22.13 | wols | mitziyahu: what version? |
| 14:22.26 | mitziyahu | etch |
| 14:22.28 | mitziyahu | is it udevcontrol ? |
| 14:22.33 | wols | then you have both |
| 14:22.37 | wols | no it's not udevcontrol |
| 14:22.44 | wols | !udev |
| 14:22.45 | dpkg | udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ or/and http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html. Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of <DevFS>, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.15 in testing and unstable, or if you're having read-only problems with udev, read this for the solution: http://bugs.debian.org/383555, or ask me about <z25>, or <udev rules> |
| 14:22.50 | mitziyahu | but im telling you i dont :X |
| 14:22.58 | wols | !intallit |
| 14:23.01 | wols | !installit |
| 14:23.01 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get, or aptitude |
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| 14:23.12 | mitziyahu | well, thats what i wasasking |
| 14:23.18 | mitziyahu | is it part of the intial apps |
| 14:23.30 | wols | why would you need it? |
| 14:23.40 | mitziyahu | dunno. i was just asking |
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| 14:28.03 | tty | do any of you use caudium by some chance i cant get it running |
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| 14:28.31 | grub | heh |
| 14:28.42 | maxamillion | owned |
| 14:28.58 | stew | tty: have you checked /usr/share/doc/caudium? |
| 14:29.27 | maxamillion | might anyone know off hand if the lenny installer has the partman bug fixed? |
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| 14:30.00 | tty | stew ah well i think i have idea the selinux policy possibly |
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| 14:35.23 | t04no | a bit ot but anyways. how can i manually add a password(-site) to iceweasel's pw-manager ? |
| 14:36.00 | Timothy | I have a debian install running on a server and have just added a rtl8139 ethernet card to the system, but I can't seem to get it to work. I thought it would just work after doing modprobe 8139cp. that doesn't give an error but I also don't het an ethernet devide |
| 14:36.03 | Timothy | any ideas? |
| 14:36.31 | Appiah | check dmesg |
| 14:36.38 | DawnLight | Timothy: does lspci show it? |
| 14:36.41 | stew | Timothy: if 8139cp doesn't work, try 8139too |
| 14:36.56 | wols | Timothy: 8139too, not 8139p |
| 14:37.17 | wols | Timothy: /sbin/ifconfig -a yu should now have an additional ethX |
| 14:37.58 | Timothy | I also tried 8139too, and will check the other 2 remarks right now |
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| 14:38.27 | wols | dmesg will tell you if it has loaded. modprobe never says aynthing if it's successful |
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| 14:39.07 | Timothy | dmesg shows both drivers but doesn't mention a device |
| 14:39.11 | pablo | hi, in order to share a printer with a win/nix pc, what do you recommend nfs or samba? |
| 14:39.16 | Timothy | ifconfig -a doesn't show it, |
| 14:39.32 | Timothy | lspci shows the device as gammagrapx, Inc |
| 14:39.44 | Timothy | but I am sure it is 8139 since the chip on the card mentions that |
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| 14:40.08 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 14:40.13 | nullvoid | just asking |
| 14:40.51 | wols | what does lspci say exactly? |
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| 14:42.15 | sobersabre | hi. |
| 14:42.35 | sobersabre | for some weird reason, my nis client changes the yp passwd, instead of shadow file. |
| 14:42.44 | mynullvoid | I create a mount point as sda1 for my boot on my removal device, but sometime it suppose to be sdb1 |
| 14:42.54 | sobersabre | both machines are Debian stable |
| 14:43.01 | sobersabre | oops. client is ubuntu. |
| 14:43.06 | Timothy | lspci says: 01:0a.o Ethernet controller: Gammagraphx, Inc. Unknown device 0400 (rev 10) |
| 14:43.07 | sobersabre | but this changes not much. |
| 14:43.26 | mynullvoid | how do I get my system to make sure to use my removal device to become sda even there is a hard drive |
| 14:43.40 | wols | Timothy: update-pciids and lspci -n |
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| 14:45.16 | wols | !tell mynullvoid about uuid |
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| 14:46.36 | _ke | im looking for some software, which checks a certain directory and resets the permissions on every file, e.g. a chmod/chown -R with cron |
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| 14:47.08 | Timothy | wols, will have to do that manually since I ain't got no internet now :) |
| 14:47.14 | Timothy | but will do |
| 14:47.27 | DawnLight | _ke: make a script and run it with cron |
| 14:47.31 | g0t_r00t | how about a bash script.. |
| 14:47.31 | Nyle | hi |
| 14:47.33 | wols | Timothy: doesn't look like a 8139 btw |
| 14:47.40 | g0t_r00t | easiest and quickest |
| 14:47.53 | Nyle | realtek suxors |
| 14:48.04 | _ke | DawnLight, g0t_r00t probably, yes |
| 14:48.37 | stew | _ke: why do you need this? how are the permissions being set wrong in the first place? |
| 14:48.50 | DawnLight | Timothy: try update-pciids as root and lspci again |
| 14:49.29 | _ke | stew, im not shure if my cms sets the right permissions and owner on new files |
| 14:49.35 | _ke | stew, *sure |
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| 14:50.44 | stew | _ke: your cms shouldn't have the rights to set any owner other than whatever user is running the webserver which is probably www-data |
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| 14:51.04 | stew | _ke: what is the permissions / ownership before and after you fix them? |
| 14:52.00 | _ke | stew, i have to set them to www-data. well further on, there are several people submitting scripts to that cms and they often forget to set the right owner |
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| 14:53.40 | stew | _ke: sounds like you should put all these people in a group and make the directory g+s |
| 14:54.08 | jayeola | how does one specify to install the recommended packages with apt-get? |
| 14:54.18 | _ke | stew, do you mean putting those people into www-data group? |
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| 14:54.52 | stew | _ke: i mean creating a group for handling this particular problem |
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| 14:55.49 | _ke | stew, but your way doesnt handle new files, does it? |
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| 14:56.11 | stew | _ke: yes, it does if you set the directory g+s |
| 14:56.13 | mynullvoid | how can I create a uuid label for my partition? |
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| 14:56.44 | stew | _ke: at least for ownership. for permissions, change people's umask to 002 if everyone in the group should have write permission as well as read |
| 14:57.18 | stew | mynullvoid: it is created automatically. "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/" should show them |
| 14:57.57 | _ke | stew, the manpage says: set user or group ID on execution (s). so the owner wont be set to www-data, but to the user id? |
| 14:58.32 | mynullvoid | stew: can I change the uuid label? |
| 14:58.53 | stew | mynullvoid: do you mean uuid or label? those are two different things |
| 14:59.09 | Timothy | wols, DawnLight, I just updated pciids but lspci still shows the same |
| 14:59.26 | stew | _ke: the user would be whoever created the file. i'm talking about the group owner which would be forced to match the group owner of the directory if you set the directory g+s |
| 14:59.32 | Timothy | with update I mean I manually copied over a new ids file |
| 14:59.43 | Timothy | not sure if I need to excecute a command |
| 15:00.04 | mynullvoid | stew: when I boot my removal device, it sometimes at /dev/sda and sometime /dev/sdb |
| 15:00.13 | _ke | stew, i think i will go for the cron script, as i can set the owner there too |
| 15:00.25 | stew | _ke: why does the owner matter? |
| 15:00.41 | mynullvoid | stew: I need to solve this, otherwise I keep on changing this in the fstab as well as in the grub loader |
| 15:00.45 | _ke | stew, its cleaner if everything is owned by www-data |
| 15:00.55 | stew | mynullvoid: you could use either uuid or label instead of /dev/sda. afaik you can change label but you can't change uuid |
| 15:01.13 | stew | _ke: cleaner? |
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| 15:01.24 | _ke | stew, nevermind ;) |
| 15:01.29 | mynullvoid | stew: which one you suggest? label or the uuid? |
| 15:02.17 | jolt^d4 | Just a thing about www-data as group; remember that the webserver is running by www-data, I don't know if you mind about the webserver being able to modify the files/directories as well... |
| 15:02.33 | stew | mynullvoid: i don't really think it matters. i use both here |
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| 15:04.46 | mynullvoid | stew: how do I create the label and how do I have the grub line and the fstab line? |
| 15:05.29 | stew | mynullvoid: what filesystem are you using? |
| 15:05.55 | mynullvoid | ext2 |
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| 15:06.35 | stew | mynullvoid: use e2label to set/change the label. in grub/fstab, where you would normally have something like "/dev/sda1" use "LABEL=foo" instead |
| 15:07.04 | mynullvoid | ok |
| 15:07.13 | mynullvoid | let me try |
| 15:08.06 | danf_1979 | does nrg2iso ever produce a valid iso image? :S |
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| 15:09.12 | averule | hi i have created debian installable cd using debian build meathod but for installing on intel dual core it is getting hang after tasksel selectrion,what will be problem? |
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| 15:11.16 | pablo | hi, in order to share a printer with a win/nix pc, what do you recommend nfs or samba? |
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| 15:11.37 | xuser | didn't know NFS could do printing. |
| 15:11.45 | xuser | averule: use a official cd? |
| 15:11.59 | xuser | pablo: samba |
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| 15:12.58 | pablo | xuser: ok thx |
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| 15:13.06 | mynullvoid | stew: is't possible if we compress the partition content |
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| 15:13.45 | mynullvoid | I am creating a bootable usb drive and want to install X and other stuff in it, but I only got 1GB, can I compress it? |
| 15:14.01 | GuySoft | hello all, is there a package in debian that will let me easily set up maillists? |
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| 15:14.14 | K|NgGh0sT | Hello, I'm in the midst of creating an LVM but when I go to mount it it doesn't seem to exist but everything else says it goes "vgscan, lvdisplay etc.." http://pastebin.ca/845217 |
| 15:14.48 | happla | K|NgGh0sT: did you mkfs it? |
| 15:15.13 | DimmuR | can anyone point me how to install java under iceweasel 2.0.11 (debian unstable)? |
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| 15:16.21 | wols | Timothy: what pci id is it? |
| 15:16.29 | K|NgGh0sT | happla,yes I did |
| 15:17.16 | CalJohn | I might have accidentally deleted some files. Either way, I then repartitioned the ext3 partition to xfs. Is there any real solution to this? |
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| 15:17.52 | happla | K|NgGh0sT: ok, then its strange =) |
| 15:18.29 | K|NgGh0sT | I also have to for some reason modprobe dm_mod everytime I boot... |
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| 15:19.21 | happla | K|NgGh0sT: LV Status NOT available |
| 15:21.23 | stew | mynullvoid: what filesystem will you be using? |
| 15:21.25 | K|NgGh0sT | how do I change that? |
| 15:21.29 | ezguy | any ideas how i install debian on ps3? |
| 15:21.32 | chop1 | GuySoft: mailman is the standard package to use |
| 15:21.34 | happla | K|NgGh0sT: I was thinking about that to |
| 15:21.50 | happla | ezguy: I dont think there is a debian dist for ps3. afaik there is only yellow dog |
| 15:22.41 | CalJohn | A good answer to my own question was "foremost" |
| 15:23.35 | jolt^d4 | All PS3-linux are terrible slow (because the PS3 doesn't allow 3rd party kernels to access all of the hardware) |
| 15:23.53 | jolt^d4 | Or 3rd party OS |
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| 15:26.26 | hoxu | If you need to redundantly backup static data, mostly static data and regularly changing data, with storage varying from remote servers to burnable media, is there any backup program that can help keeping track of this (bacula, amanda, ...)? |
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| 15:30.18 | chop1 | hoxu: I use a custom tar script, and I'm looking into switching to flexbackup. I've heard good things about amanda, but it seems like it wants an impressive investment in setting things up before it starts working. |
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| 15:31.08 | hoxu | chop1, I'm pretty much using simple utilities and custom scripts as well, I've heard good things about bacula, but well, same thing... :) |
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| 15:31.48 | fireba11 | chops : depending on your setup size you might want to ahve a look at bacula too |
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| 15:33.04 | GuySoft | chops, thanks, ill have a look |
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| 15:35.30 | Raven007 | hell.o |
| 15:35.57 | david-work | w.hats u.p? |
| 15:36.24 | Raven007 | nothin', just checking you guys out :) |
| 15:36.36 | david-work | Sorry I am married. |
| 15:36.39 | Raven007 | :) |
| 15:36.54 | hoxu | !marry Raven007 david-work |
| 15:36.58 | danf_1979 | heh |
| 15:36.59 | hoxu | hmm... |
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| 15:37.59 | Raven007 | so, nobody has any problems in the begining of the year ? |
| 15:38.25 | hoxu | I do |
| 15:38.41 | hoxu | there's this Raven007 dude who joined one channel and is freaking me out |
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| 15:38.55 | david-work | w2k8? |
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| 15:39.45 | Ronin | Raven007: define problems, im back at work after 2 weeks off,thats a major problem for me |
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| 15:40.17 | Raven007 | Ronin: i see, i have some free-days 'till i'll get back to work |
| 15:40.39 | Raven007 | so, i'm preparing |
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| 15:40.51 | Zharf | which package has gtk2-theme-switcher or something? |
| 15:40.55 | Raven007 | 'till then, i have a small issue with libnotify plugin @ pidgin |
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| 15:41.31 | Raven007 | on one o my workstations, it fails to work after some time ... |
| 15:41.38 | hoxu | Zharf, gtk-theme-switch? |
| 15:41.45 | Raven007 | if i restart X, it's ok ... then it fails again |
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| 15:41.51 | Raven007 | only on one machine |
| 15:42.00 | Zharf | hoxu, ah, I kept looking for gtk2-theme |
| 15:42.10 | Raven007 | and donno why... any hints ? |
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| 15:43.16 | acron17 | hi there. i need to compile a library on a amd64 debian-sid as 32-bit. |
| 15:43.20 | Raven007 | at least, how can I debug it ? |
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| 15:43.23 | LeventersoY | how can i change a my server hostname |
| 15:43.26 | LeventersoY | :) |
| 15:43.33 | cusco | use the command hostname |
| 15:43.34 | hoxu | !tell LeventersoY about hostname |
| 15:43.38 | Raven007 | LeventersoY: hostname |
| 15:43.47 | acron17 | the configure-script does not offer any related option.... any hints how could i accomplish this? |
| 15:43.53 | Raven007 | LeventersoY: and after that, /etc/hostname |
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| 15:44.05 | hoxu | cusco, Raven007: it's all in the factoid :P |
| 15:44.09 | Raven007 | acron17: chroot with debian-sid 32 bit |
| 15:44.15 | LeventersoY | this director not found my system |
| 15:44.20 | Raven007 | or better, vserver/openvz |
| 15:44.37 | LeventersoY | localhost |
| 15:44.41 | hoxu | LeventersoY, what directory is not found on your system? /etc? |
| 15:44.44 | Raven007 | LeventersoY: ok, you don't want a FQDN entry as a hostname |
| 15:44.46 | Raven007 | do this : |
| 15:44.50 | cusco | hoxu: yes, well.. I didn't know and I spoke first... |
| 15:44.52 | Raven007 | hosname <hostname> |
| 15:45.01 | Raven007 | echo "hostname" > /etc/hostname |
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| 15:45.03 | Raven007 | all done |
| 15:45.15 | cusco | Raven007: yes |
| 15:45.20 | hoxu | cusco, just FYI :) |
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| 15:45.58 | acron17 | Raven007: thx. but can't that be done simpler? i understand that gcc can generate 32bit-code (with -m32) even on a 64-bit OS |
| 15:45.58 | cusco | ceers |
| 15:45.58 | Raven007 | acron17: you need the env |
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| 15:47.05 | Raven007 | so, you cand install 32 bit libs and link that exec to those ... |
| 15:47.10 | Raven007 | and generate 32 bit code |
| 15:47.33 | Raven007 | but, it's sane to do a complete _separate_ env for your 32 bit builds |
| 15:48.11 | acron17 | Raven007: i have /usr/lib32 -> /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib |
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| 15:49.15 | acron17 | my question is actually how to tell configure/make to compile (or at least to try to) as 32bit |
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| 15:52.11 | Raven007 | acron17: well, my solution/s were simplier |
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| 15:53.19 | Raven007 | to create a 32bit build-chroot it takes ~10 min (for the untrained) |
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| 15:54.43 | mdales | I want to download deb files from a server that is setup only to allow connections from clients with the proper CA. Is it possible to convince apt-get to use a CA? |
| 15:55.01 | h3sp4wn | acron17: Do you have gcc-multilib ? |
| 15:55.14 | h3sp4wn | acron17: use - linux32 |
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| 15:55.37 | Raven007 | i hope jelly is a bot :) |
| 15:55.59 | jelly | you hope in vain ;-) |
| 15:56.12 | g0t_r00t | could be a smart bot |
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| 15:56.21 | Raven007 | if you're not a bot, then you're a troll |
| 15:56.37 | acron17 | h3sp4wn: thx. i just found linux32 on google. i'm giving it a try. |
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| 15:57.12 | h3sp4wn | I just wish Debian's xen domU support was better (i.e an easy way to install - netbsd / centos / fedora all super easy - Debian complete pita so far) |
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| 15:59.20 | ignotus | hello, would you advise me a good Debian web forum? I wanted to post a question to forums.debian.net but it seems unavailable right now |
| 15:59.21 | Raven007 | so, any answer to my Q? why libnotify fails after some time? |
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| 15:59.39 | justin | h3sp4wn: xen-tools can install debian and rpm based distros |
| 15:59.57 | justin | h3sp4wn: what xen platform has better domU support than debian? |
| 16:00.00 | h3sp4wn | justin: I use a solaris dom0 |
| 16:00.01 | Ronin | ignotus: could just ask here |
| 16:00.22 | abrotman | !forums |
| 16:00.23 | dpkg | forums is, like, http://forums.debian.net/ http://www.debianhelp.org/ http://www.debianplanet.org/, or http://www.debianforums.org (basically dead) |
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| 16:00.39 | justin | h3sp4wn: and solaris has an easy way to install netbsd/centos/fedora? |
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| 16:01.16 | ignotus | abrotman & Ronin: thanks:) the questions I have atm are more suited to a forum |
| 16:01.17 | h3sp4wn | justin: yep - virt-install |
| 16:02.04 | Raven007 | bye |
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| 16:03.39 | abrotman | ignotus: you really could try us ... |
| 16:03.39 | ignotus | how can one set the keyboard repeat rate at the console? It is so fast right now that it is really hard to type. I probably set it ~6-8 years ago so I absolutely don't remember what utils one can use for this purpose |
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| 16:04.06 | ignotus | after an upgrade it became real fast |
| 16:04.15 | ignotus | abrotman: :) |
| 16:04.18 | ignotus | thanks |
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| 16:04.48 | abrotman | ignotus: kbdrate ? |
| 16:04.53 | abrotman | !find kbdrate etch |
| 16:04.57 | acron17 | h3sp4wn: linux32 did not work for me: |
| 16:05.00 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'kbdrate' (1): (/sbin/kbdrate) in utils/console-tools,utils/kbd. |
| 16:05.06 | abrotman | ignotus: good enough? :) |
| 16:05.41 | ignotus | abrotman: checking:) |
| 16:05.46 | acron17 | i tried linux 32 ./configure which seemed not to change anything and: linux32 make gives me errors CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set |
| 16:06.12 | acron17 | did i miss something? |
| 16:06.26 | ignotus | ugh, I can't switch to console to try this out abrotman, I will do so at next boot at tomorrow morning:) thanks |
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| 16:06.42 | h3sp4wn | acron17: Probably a lot of stuff |
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| 16:06.49 | justin | h3sp4wn: doesn't that require HVM? |
| 16:07.28 | abrotman | ignotus: i think i'd be working to figure out why i can't switch to console :) |
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| 16:07.44 | ignotus | since the upgrade when I start X.org (using startx) some time after the start ctrl-alt-fX key combo doesn't work |
| 16:07.45 | acron17 | h3sp4wn: yeah seems so. any advice? |
| 16:07.54 | ignotus | abrotman: ^ do you have any idea why is that? |
| 16:08.06 | ignotus | abrotman: I use keyboard mouse extension, that stops working too (I think at the same time) |
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| 16:09.54 | Gryfelhase | just another question: udev is another hotplugdaemon then hotplug irself? |
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| 16:14.07 | chops | Gryfelhase: udev replaces hotplug |
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| 16:16.27 | Timothy | wols, I'll just go return this card for a different brand |
| 16:16.32 | humbolto | in adduser.conf I can define at which UID my users should start. Where can I set which GID to start with? |
| 16:16.42 | Timothy | this is taking up too much time |
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| 16:16.57 | Timothy | thanks for the help though |
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| 16:17.45 | h3sp4wn | justin: Nope - just requires the distro to provide suitable files |
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| 16:18.10 | justin | h3sp4wn: oh? if it is just a script I'm sure it would run on debian just fine |
| 16:18.25 | justin | h3sp4wn: you'd probably just have to fix a few paths for it to run correctly |
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| 16:20.34 | wols | Timothy: 10$ for a real realtek card (100mbit/s) |
| 16:21.05 | Timothy | yeah, I thought this was one of those |
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| 16:21.54 | h3sp4wn | justin: I don't want to run it on Debian I want to install Debian without tons of messing around - i.e with a paravirtualised debian kernel and debian-installer initrd |
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| 16:23.54 | justin | h3sp4wn: oooh, installing debian is easy |
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| 16:24.12 | eoL|SaldainiS | Hello :) |
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| 16:25.47 | onur | Hi. I am using debian testing. I have a problem, my debian doesnt see blank dvd or cd. I tried Brasero and Gnome Baker. They doesn't see any black disc. Alvays say no disc. Do you have any idea? |
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| 16:28.22 | disposable | how do i find a file that was created on 21st november 2007 and has .jpg extension? man find wasn't very helpful. |
| 16:28.40 | Maulkin | read man find again? |
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| 16:28.49 | Maulkin | look at ctime and name ? |
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| 16:29.03 | stew | disposable: try "info time" if you don't like the manpage |
| 16:29.06 | stew | err |
| 16:29.09 | stew | disposable: "info find" |
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| 16:29.34 | david-work | http://www.google.com/search?q=find+files+by+date+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a |
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| 16:30.56 | disposable | david-work, did that, if i do touch -t 11212007 /tmp/timestamp, ls -l shows the timestamp was created 21 nov 2008 instead of 2007 |
| 16:30.58 | lurch | im having a wierd problem with vmware when making a new debian server it detects the hard dries but i keep getting buffer i/o errors and it keeps going back to a screen where it says spinning up disks? any idea what would cause this? |
| 16:31.54 | david-work | hmm maybe try xargs? |
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| 16:32.46 | disposable | david-work: i came here to _save_ time :) |
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| 16:34.13 | justin | disposable: man touch |
| 16:34.16 | justin | disposable: use [[CC]YY]MMDDhhmm[.ss] instead of current time |
| 16:34.43 | disposable | justin, thank you |
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| 16:34.53 | david-work | ls -al | fgrep 2007-02-01 |
| 16:35.16 | justin | disposable: 11212007 == 11-21 20:07 not 11-21-2007 |
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| 16:35.34 | disposable | justin, i understand now |
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| 16:35.48 | david-work | shesh im out of it. Im going to just shut up now |
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| 16:42.40 | Joanh | HI, I have a question when you install a software with wine, where do the files are store so it can be run later? |
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| 16:45.37 | mbroeker | Joanh, point your filemanager to ~/.wine/drive_c/ |
| 16:46.26 | mbroeker | Joanh, but a good desktop enviroment creates shortcuts and startmenu entries automatically. |
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| 16:49.07 | Joanh | thanks |
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| 16:50.49 | badcfe | how do i manipulate groups, their admin, their password and their membership lists on debian |
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| 16:51.26 | xand | badcfe: what kind of groups are you talking about? |
| 16:52.33 | Authority | can you not get a netinst ISO of 3.1r7? |
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| 16:53.03 | Ronin | Authority: i doubt |
| 16:53.04 | Ronin | it |
| 16:53.20 | badcfe | xand: *nix groups |
| 16:53.28 | Ronin | Authority: and why somethign so old? |
| 16:53.29 | badcfe | xand: vfs |
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| 16:53.40 | mbroeker | badcfe, gpasswd manipulates this infos. |
| 16:53.55 | Authority | 3.1r7 isn't old, but I'm looking for a Debian release with 2.4 kernel |
| 16:54.13 | badcfe | mbroeker: yes, that was it (i had forgot its name). thanks |
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| 16:55.09 | stew | Authority: get r6 and upgrade, /msg dpkg sarge |
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| 16:55.33 | badcfe | xand: i said vfs. ofcourse for processes too. the user-group one should say maybe .. integral part of *nix. |
| 16:56.03 | stew | Authority: actually, http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
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| 16:56.14 | badcfe | xand: i guess user-groups is the term to use, in order to distinguish from process-groups |
| 16:56.24 | xand | groups found in /etc/group? |
| 16:57.25 | mdales | are all the conf files in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d sourced in order? |
| 16:57.31 | badcfe | xand: thats it |
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| 16:58.07 | badcfe | xand: mbroeker here, reminded me of the command to use in order to alter the administrational stuff on them |
| 16:58.08 | Authority | stew, thanks for the link, i'll try that out. I'd seen another message on the Debian site about the new installed in r7 breaking the versions prior to it. maybe that only applied to netboot |
| 16:58.24 | xand | gpasswd? |
| 16:58.35 | xand | gpasswd - administer the /etc/group file |
| 16:58.35 | spq | i have a problem with apt, it always reinstalls postfix because i have a local mirror which has patched postfix packages and is pinned to Priority 999 |
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| 16:59.29 | badcfe | xand: yes, but theres a shaddow password sheme possible used too. one should use gpasswd i guess, not edit the files |
| 16:59.40 | xand | yes |
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| 17:02.15 | spq | Package: * / Pin: release o=ConceptT / Pin-Priority: 999 |
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| 17:02.57 | stew | spq: when does apt decide to reinstall? |
| 17:03.46 | spq | when i apt-get upgrade |
| 17:04.09 | stew | spq: what version of postfix is installed, and what version does it want to install? |
| 17:04.36 | spq | both 2.3.8-2 |
| 17:04.55 | stew | spq: if one of them is patched and one isn't, they should have different versions |
| 17:05.05 | spq | hm |
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| 17:05.27 | spq | i just patched the package and created a deb from it nothing else |
| 17:05.44 | stew | spq: when you build your patched version, make your version something like "2.3.8-2+somepatch" which will make it appear like a newer version to apt |
| 17:06.09 | spq | and what if theres a newer version in debians repository? |
| 17:06.17 | FiendishFish | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.33 | stew | spq: if you don't want to upgrade to the newer version, then put your version on hold, /msg dpkg hold |
| 17:07.02 | spq | hm, i just wanted to make sure that packages i have in my own repository are used instead of any other |
| 17:07.10 | FiendishFish | It only appears to be doing so in Iceweasel :/ |
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| 17:07.42 | stew | spq: you can edit the changelog (which is needed to build a pacakge with a different version) by running "dch --nmu" in the source code directory which will create 2.3.8-2.1 which i'd recommend changing to 2.3.8-2+somepatch |
| 17:08.29 | spq | hm okay, that would be a cleaner aproach but still the question why does it upgrade? |
| 17:08.47 | spq | or better reinstall |
| 17:08.47 | stew | spq: can you show me the output of "apt-cache policy postfix" ? |
| 17:09.05 | stew | spq: use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 17:09.34 | spq | http://rafb.net/p/nRxq9i75.html |
| 17:10.18 | stew | spq: it doesn't appear to want to do anything. can you show me the output of "apt-get upgrade"? |
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| 17:10.34 | spq | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 17:10.34 | spq | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.45 | renan | wow sweet i finally found a cheap dedi server hostnation.org |
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| 17:11.08 | spq | http://rafb.net/p/WO474Y57.html |
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| 17:11.29 | dell_lin | i am trying to confiure a voip phone (linksys pap2t and trixbox ) so i connect my adsl router in bridge mode and i want to acess a rounter (192.1.1.1) and voip phone (192.1.1.2) but my present ip ip 121.x.x.x then how to acess my routers 192.x.x.x |
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| 17:12.18 | spq | stew, any idea? |
| 17:12.18 | mntzn | does anyone have iipw9345 working ? if yes, whats your kernel version |
| 17:12.34 | wols | !anyone |
| 17:12.35 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 17:12.40 | stew | spq: can you show me the output of "dpkg -s postfix" |
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| 17:13.06 | mntzn | whatever did that suppose to mean |
| 17:13.08 | spq | http://rafb.net/p/QOyLqz11.html |
| 17:13.41 | danf_1979 | Uhm, there is a player that resembles winamp, but it is not xmms. I completely forgot it's name :S |
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| 17:15.55 | spq | stew, i have to cook, i will return in an hour, hope you'r still there or have any idea :) |
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| 17:16.28 | Yggdrasil | hello, does anyone know if there is a pci card that i can put in a computer that will essentially act as a dsl modem ? |
| 17:16.38 | david-work | that would be funny if your cooking stew |
| 17:17.10 | justin | Yggdrasil: why would you want such a thing? |
| 17:17.44 | itchi | danf_1979: I thought there was only one true winamp clone, xmms |
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| 17:18.03 | itchi | danf_1979: Or do you mean xmms2 ? |
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| 17:18.10 | guzu | hello all |
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| 17:18.42 | guzu | where can i get an 3.1r7 netinstall iso from? |
| 17:19.02 | stew | spq: well i'd guess that it might be one of the other pacakges that actually needs an upgrade. i'd want to see the output of "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2 pkg3..." for all the packages it wants to upgrade |
| 17:19.03 | Ronin | Authority: |
| 17:19.04 | Ronin | oops |
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| 17:19.20 | azeem | guzu: they haven't been produced yet I think |
| 17:19.29 | stew | spq: however, i think i've already told you how you *should* fix this, which is to make the versions be different when they are, in fact, different versions |
| 17:19.58 | stew | guzu: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 17:20.00 | guzu | azeem, well, then for 3.1* |
| 17:20.36 | mntzn | what's the kernel version right now in unstable? |
| 17:20.37 | ignotus | I have a very simple QoS script (I stole from somewhere) at http://pastebin.com/m679d271f. How should I modify that script, so it doesn't throttle local (192.168.*.*) connections? |
| 17:20.52 | Yggdrasil | justin basicly because the qwest router that has been provided kind of sucks. When i set it to dmz i have to set my firewall to accept a dhcp address |
| 17:21.02 | Yggdrasil | i would like to cut out the middle man |
| 17:21.02 | stew | mntzn: http://packages.qa.debian.org/linux-2.6 |
| 17:21.11 | danf_1979 | uhm, itchi, nope, there is another one. I remember it has "media" on the name. I remember that because of a discussion in devel mailing list, because the author didn't want his audio player to be tagged as a xmms clone. It was not beep media player though... |
| 17:21.12 | mntzn | tnx |
| 17:21.23 | guzu | stew thank you very much |
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| 17:23.07 | danf_1979 | itchi: got it, audacious :p |
| 17:23.25 | stew | guzu: realize that if you are doing a new install you should probably be installing 4.0 and not 3.1 |
| 17:23.53 | guzu | stew, i have an _old_ notebook |
| 17:24.10 | guzu | stew, 4.0 works fine exceptthe soundcard |
| 17:24.30 | guzu | wich is an ess 1868 (isa...) |
| 17:24.33 | itchi | danf_1979: Looks very nice |
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| 17:25.07 | stew | guzu: i'd think that any sound card that works in 3.1 should work in 4.0. realize that support for 3.1 will be completely terminated in about 3 months |
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| 17:25.19 | danf_1979 | itchi: yep, very cute :p |
| 17:25.19 | stew | guzu: do you know which kernel module you use under 3.1 to get it working? |
| 17:25.40 | itchi | danf_1979: It just look like winamp too, should be weird that discusion :-) |
| 17:25.51 | guzu | stew, i have no idea, i'm just downloading the netinstall cd |
| 17:26.06 | itchi | danf_1979: Seems nicer as xmms |
| 17:26.25 | stew | guzu: what happens in 4.0 when you tell alsaconf to probe for 'legacy' devices? |
| 17:26.43 | guzu | stew, alsa sees the card under 4.0 but it's configured nonstandard and i'm unabe to tell this to alsa, even if i change some modules.conf or whatever files i've found related |
| 17:27.01 | guzu | stew, so alsa is unable to use it |
| 17:27.11 | stew | guzu: what did you try putting in modules.conf? |
| 17:27.13 | k31th | are there any decent debian based guides / howto's for an iptables / nat setup? |
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| 17:27.42 | guzu | stew, in $that file wich has the irq and dma, i've changed them to the correct ones |
| 17:27.54 | guzu | maybe modules.conf, maybe not |
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| 17:28.58 | Xcape | ~***Happy New Year 2008***~ |
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| 17:30.49 | guzu | stew, how can i check the md5 of the downloaded iso? |
| 17:31.07 | guzu | stew, where is the md5sum? :) |
| 17:32.04 | guzu | stew, ok, i've found it :) |
| 17:33.06 | stew | guzu: you should be trying to make those changes in /etc/modprobe.d in etch (and somewhere different in 3.1) |
| 17:33.16 | stew | guzu: if you were trying to make those changes somewhere else, that was likely your problem |
| 17:34.20 | guzu | stew, i see. then i suppose it was a file under /etc/modprobe.d/ |
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| 17:36.00 | stew | guzu: was there any indication in dmesg that your extra options were being used? |
| 17:36.35 | guzu | stew, not, afaict. only alsa failing to initialise soundcard |
| 17:36.45 | enouf | k31th: poked around at debian-administration.org? |
| 17:37.28 | stew | guzu: you should check that your parameters are actually getting added by checking /sys/module/modulename/parameters/* |
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| 17:38.14 | guzu | stew, i'll do it when i'll reinstall 4.0. for now i'll get rid of sourcemage and install debian 3.1 |
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| 17:38.40 | guzu | showtime :) |
| 17:38.55 | enouf | guzu: farted around with pnputils pkg yet? is Plug-n-PlayOS enabled in BIOS? have you set aside resources in BIOS for the ISA device? |
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| 17:39.52 | enouf | guzu: what's lspci | grep ISA say (looking for bridge) |
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| 17:40.26 | guzu | enouf, the notebook is very old and the bios is pretty bios, but yes, there's where i've configured the soundcard to use a different irq than the pccardbus |
| 17:40.50 | guzu | enouf, can't tell you know since i've just started the debian instllation |
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| 17:41.07 | enouf | guzu: well, is it being seen correctly in dmesg? |
| 17:41.10 | Magaly | somebody have radeon 7000/VE and sid? i have not X :-( |
| 17:41.14 | enouf | oh |
| 17:41.15 | gkk | I'm using etch and compiling a code returns me " error: SDL.h: No such file or directory" |
| 17:41.27 | gkk | but there is no package like sdl or sdl-dev for etch :S |
| 17:41.32 | enouf | guzu: nm ;-) worry about it when done |
| 17:41.34 | stew | Magaly: what exactly is the problem? |
| 17:41.41 | axod | hi I have a problem with hybrid-ircd and hybserv... it complains "Invalid servername" in the hybserv log. Any ideas what is wrong? |
| 17:41.47 | guzu | enouf, that old redhat detection tool (sndconfig) works fine |
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| 17:42.07 | guzu | enouf, stew, thnx, again |
| 17:42.26 | Magaly | stew: my xorg.conf and said me RADEON(0): No valid modes |
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| 17:43.00 | stew | Magaly: can you show us your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 17:43.01 | Magaly | steev: i try about 5 or more xorg.con |
| 17:43.04 | Magaly | conf |
| 17:43.17 | stew | Magaly: did you try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? |
| 17:43.24 | Magaly | okis stew wait a minute |
| 17:43.28 | enouf | gkk: tried $ apt-cache search libsdl ? |
| 17:43.29 | Magaly | yes i try |
| 17:43.52 | enouf | gkk: /msg dpkg search |
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| 17:44.08 | gkk | nveremind |
| 17:44.15 | gkk | already got by build-dep |
| 17:44.48 | gkk | enouf: there is no libsdl but lots of libsdl-<something> |
| 17:45.04 | gkk | ok, thanks, bye |
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| 17:45.25 | enouf | i don't see any sdl.h anywhere on i386 |
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| 17:45.44 | justin | !tell enouf about search |
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| 17:46.14 | enouf | !tell justin about auto-apt |
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| 17:46.57 | azeem | it's SDL.h |
| 17:47.19 | justin | :) |
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| 17:47.26 | Magaly | stew: http://pastebin.com/d3c0ca2bd |
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| 17:47.51 | Magaly | stew: i use xserver-xorg-video-ati |
| 17:48.27 | Phil4 | I'm having a bit of an issue with the Lenny installer partitioning tool |
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| 17:48.41 | Gryfelhase | Will there be a2.6.23-kernel-packages for debian etch in near future ? (next 2-3 months?) |
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| 17:49.24 | enouf | never for etch |
| 17:49.53 | Gryfelhase | and for sid? (sid is testing?) |
| 17:50.16 | enouf | there are backports though and kmuto for newer hardware (both are unofficial) |
| 17:50.18 | Ronin | Gryfelhase: sid is unstable |
| 17:50.21 | Phil4 | I select the drive (76.6Gb) and select partition automatically with / /usr /var /tmp /home and swap separately, this works fine and occupies the whole disk. However, I want /home on another drive so I undo this and go to partition it manually adding / /usr /var and swap. There is about 3Gb left on the drive that I planned to put /tmp in however it then says the free space is unusable. |
| 17:50.23 | stew | Magaly: i'd recommend trying to remove the HorizSync, VertRefresh, and all modeline lines from the Monitor section in xorg.conf and see if that stuff can be automatically detected |
| 17:50.23 | Phil4 | why is this? |
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| 17:50.57 | enouf | testing already has .22 Gryfelhase |
| 17:51.12 | Magaly | steev: what modelines? i try several |
| 17:51.31 | Magaly | ummmmmm remove all stew? |
| 17:51.44 | stew | Phil4: you can only have 4 primary partitions on a msdos partition table. so make an extended partition instead of making them all primary partitions |
| 17:51.49 | Gryfelhase | now, I already have .22 but I need it for xorg nad this via unichrome chip |
| 17:51.53 | Phil4 | oh, right |
| 17:51.56 | Phil4 | I see |
| 17:52.00 | stew | Magaly: remove all modelines, remove the HorizSync and remove the VertRefresh |
| 17:52.03 | Phil4 | so I make / primary and the rest extended? |
| 17:52.14 | Magaly | stew: okis i tried it |
| 17:52.21 | enouf | Phil4: 3 primary + 1 Ext'd + logicals within |
| 17:52.32 | Magaly | i came back later |
| 17:52.59 | Phil4 | enouf, which do I make primary and which extended? |
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| 17:53.39 | enouf | Phil4: hda1,2,3 maje primary, make hda4 Ext'd, the hda5/6/7/8/9 etc go inside 4 |
| 17:53.55 | stew | Gryfelhase: .23 should be uploaded to backports.org AFTER it moves to testing (and who knows how long it will take to move to testing) |
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| 17:54.17 | Phil4 | ok enouf, thanks |
| 17:54.18 | enouf | Phil4: whichever you want, bit i trust Primarys more than any Ext'd |
| 17:54.19 | stew | Phil4: it doesn't really matter |
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| 17:54.37 | jelly | are there i386 builds of icedtea for debian somewhere? |
| 17:54.49 | stew | jelly: ask #debian-java on irc.debian.org |
| 17:55.00 | jelly | righty-ho |
| 17:55.54 | stew | mine's a lefty |
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| 17:56.10 | Gryfelhase | ok, then I will wait some time ;) |
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| 17:57.02 | pickscrape | Hello, would anyone here know anything about tmpfs and how it uses memory? |
| 17:57.18 | jelly | tmi |
| 17:57.29 | enouf | you mean initmate details? |
| 17:57.53 | pickscrape | Well, someone who could explain something that to me is currently inexplicable :) |
| 17:57.56 | enouf | see /Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs |
| 17:58.03 | enouf | for atleast an overview |
| 17:58.05 | pickscrape | Yeah, that didn't help |
| 17:58.38 | pickscrape | The problem is this. We use tmpfs on a webserver to store a lot of small XML files that get changed frequently. |
| 17:58.49 | pickscrape | The tmpfs partition is set to max out at 2GB |
| 17:58.51 | jelly | pickscrape: it takes as much as it needs? :-) |
| 17:59.05 | enouf | hrm.. maybe watching it with this http://koltsoff.com/pub/meminfo/ .. look for articles about it on kerneltrap.org, tldp.org, lwn.net |
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| 17:59.15 | pickscrape | The server today basically ran out of swap. We shut *everything* down, and the server still had 4GB of RAM and some swap allocated. |
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| 17:59.32 | pickscrape | df -h shows the tmpfs partition to be just over 600MB in size. |
| 17:59.52 | stew | pickscrape: where was the rest of the memory being used? |
| 17:59.53 | pickscrape | Then we unmount the partition and the system's entire memory usage drops to like 110MB. |
| 18:00.12 | jelly | ##kernel might be a better idea |
| 18:00.14 | stew | were you taking cache and buffers into account? |
| 18:00.17 | stew | pickscrape: ^^ |
| 18:00.39 | helo | whenever i run 'glxinfo' or any other glx program x just immediately crashes... |
| 18:00.41 | enouf | ##kernel is where that tools author hangs sometimes |
| 18:00.48 | pickscrape | I was looking at the server's memory usage using htop. By the looks of it there wasn't much ram available for buffers |
| 18:00.54 | helo | nvidia graphics card |
| 18:00.58 | pickscrape | enouf: thanks, I'll go and ask there. |
| 18:01.01 | stew | pickscrape: how much was being used for cache? |
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| 18:01.33 | Phil4 | ehrm, how do I create an extended partition? |
| 18:01.34 | pickscrape | I don't think any was. The ram bar was all 'green'. Buffers and cache have other colours. |
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| 18:01.47 | Phil4 | selecing the free space and adding a new parition lets me choose between primary and logical |
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| 18:02.00 | pickscrape | It looked very unusual. |
| 18:02.21 | jelly | pickscrape: er, next time use something that shows buffer/cache numbers explicitely? ;-) |
| 18:02.23 | stew | Phil4: yes, a logical partition is one that will be put onto an extended partition, you can put several logical partitions on one extended (where an extended partition is 1 of your 4 primary) |
| 18:02.32 | enouf | Phil4: do you already have 3 primaries? if so then try logical |
| 18:02.36 | helo | trying nvidia one-liner... |
| 18:03.11 | Phil4 | enouf, I have 3 primaries and still have 2 more partitions to create |
| 18:03.28 | enouf | Phil4: my point about making hda1,2,3 primary is it's much neater and tidier to maintain - ok, add logical then now |
| 18:03.45 | jelly | pickscrape: it could buffer is blue and cache is yellow here, judging by the numbers |
| 18:03.49 | Phil4 | enouf, of the size I want the next partition? |
| 18:03.55 | enouf | Phil4: and as long as you have space, you can keep adding logicals |
| 18:04.02 | enouf | yes |
| 18:04.11 | Phil4 | ok, would you think, as you trust primary more, that I make swap and /tmp logical? |
| 18:04.24 | stew | Phil4: it doesn't matter |
| 18:04.27 | pickscrape | jelly: yes, that's about right. The bar was completely green though. I'm sorry I don't have exact numbers, but to me that indicates fairly clearly that the kernel simply didn't have ram available for any buffers or cache. |
| 18:04.27 | enouf | (darnit, i forget the exact way the installer presents these things) |
| 18:04.42 | Phil4 | ok stew |
| 18:04.43 | wols | Phil4: primary or logical dosn't matter |
| 18:04.43 | jelly | pickscrape: and swap was full too? |
| 18:04.45 | enouf | Phil4: yes , IMO |
| 18:04.57 | pickscrape | No, swap wasn't full. |
| 18:05.07 | Phil4 | alright |
| 18:05.09 | jelly | pickscrape: was your swap enabled at all? |
| 18:05.21 | pickscrape | Oh, yes. Swap was being used. |
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| 18:05.47 | pickscrape | Just not full. Note that this is with apache etc shut down. The server was simply sitting there unloaded. |
| 18:05.50 | screamingbytes | i have been trying to start screem editor, and it just hangs at the splash screen, no error msg, no msg on screen, nothing in /var/log, and nothing in the screem dir's regarding logs or problems. I have killed the hung processes, and tried again a few times, any ideas where i can look for a log file that might lead me to the issue? |
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| 18:06.52 | pickscrape | It's almost as though tmpfs is leaking memory, though I find that hard to believe. |
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| 18:07.01 | Magaly | re |
| 18:07.10 | pickscrape | I'll see if anyone in #kernel has any ideas. Thanks for the thoughts everyone |
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| 18:07.35 | jelly | pickscrape: I don't trust linux kernels 2.6 much... anything can be broken ;-) |
| 18:07.39 | magyar | hi, i am having a problem resoving dns with qemu/kvm in lenny. I get IP 10.0.2.2 and DNS 10.0.2.3 |
| 18:07.58 | Magaly | stew: no run without modelines and Hz Vz |
| 18:08.11 | Magaly | stew: the same msg |
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| 18:08.44 | Magaly | in this momen i run X with driver vesa no "ati" |
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| 18:09.20 | stew | Magaly: yes, that is the correct drive |
| 18:09.31 | stew | Magaly: how is the monitor attached? vga? dvi? is it a laptop? |
| 18:09.35 | stew | driver* |
| 18:09.40 | Magaly | LCD |
| 18:09.47 | stew | Magaly: how is it connected? |
| 18:09.49 | Magaly | vga |
| 18:10.18 | stew | Magaly: it looks like your card doesn't think anything is attached to VGA |
| 18:10.20 | itchi | magyar: qemu make use of his build-in DHCP server |
| 18:10.28 | Magaly | but i must run with driver ati because with vesa not aceleretion |
| 18:10.30 | stew | Magaly: (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected |
| 18:11.07 | Magaly | stew: i have in this pc other disc with Ubuntu and run perfectly |
| 18:11.32 | stew | Magaly: have you tried using the xorg.conf that ubuntu is using? |
| 18:11.43 | Magaly | stew: yes |
| 18:11.44 | magyar | itchi: its not dhcp its the qemu usermode setup |
| 18:11.52 | Magaly | i try with several xorg.con |
| 18:11.56 | Magaly | conf |
| 18:12.20 | Phil4 | guys, if I have /boot in a separate partition to /, do I enable the "Bootable Flag" on the /boot mount rather than the / mount? |
| 18:12.21 | Magaly | i think that is the driver ati |
| 18:12.22 | magyar | itchi: it used to work, but it seems some update messed things up |
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| 18:13.13 | itchi | magyar: Things has been changed some (long) time back, especially on the network side |
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| 18:16.17 | helo | hmm... i get a segfault any time a program tries to load libGL (from gdb)... i just tried the nvidia one-liner with no luck |
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| 18:17.44 | Phil4 | stew? |
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| 18:18.23 | hark | helo: did you change the driver to nvidia in xorg.conf? |
| 18:18.29 | stew | Phil4: you don't need the bootable flag if you are using lilo or grub |
| 18:18.29 | azeem | Phil4: bootable flag has nothing to do with GNU/Linux |
| 18:18.43 | Phil4 | oh, right |
| 18:18.44 | Phil4 | ok |
| 18:18.45 | Phil4 | thanks :) |
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| 18:19.31 | anirban | Hi |
| 18:19.45 | anirban | I downloaded flock from its site and untarred it |
| 18:19.59 | anirban | but when I am running it I can not connect to any site |
| 18:20.52 | Ronin | anirban: ask flock? |
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| 18:22.52 | helo | hark: yes |
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| 18:23.46 | helo | maybe i should reboot... |
| 18:23.49 | patrick-- | does anyone have an idea why my avelsieve filters wont work when it comes to sending mail? no auto responders or notification mails are sent.. |
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| 18:25.25 | anirban | no channel in freenode :-( Ronin |
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| 18:30.06 | shamrock` | ping |
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| 18:31.45 | patrick-- | does anyone have an idea why my avelsieve filters wont work when it comes to sending mail? no auto responders or notification mails are sent.. |
| 18:32.08 | shamrock` | I wish to add a call to "getmail" to my mailserver in cron. But it must be run even if there is no one logged in. How is the best way to do this? root cron? or another "cron like" application? |
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| 18:34.12 | mbuf | where does apt-get look for installed packages? or where i can get details on internals working of apt-get? |
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| 18:35.30 | helo | hmm... |
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| 18:36.11 | Decepticon | If these devices are not writable and readable for all users, many programs will act strangely. |
| 18:36.15 | Phil4 | is the 686 kernel best for a Celeron 2.0? |
| 18:36.31 | helo | LoadModule: "glx"... Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so... (EE) Failed to load <--- |
| 18:36.33 | enouf | yes Phil4 |
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| 18:36.37 | Phil4 | ok |
| 18:36.47 | stew | mbuf: what do you mean by "look for" exactly? |
| 18:37.03 | stew | mbuf: like how does it know the installed state? |
| 18:37.07 | mbuf | stew, yes |
| 18:37.13 | helo | "/usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000040gl" |
| 18:37.22 | stew | mbuf: it asks dpkg, which queries /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 18:37.39 | helo | i get those errors when starting up x... i just installed the nvidia drivers with the nvidia one-liner and rebooted |
| 18:37.55 | mbuf | stew, thanks! |
| 18:38.10 | stew | mbuf: you should not touch that file, of course |
| 18:38.27 | mbuf | stew, ok |
| 18:38.45 | helo | oh no! he's right! |
| 18:39.32 | stew | people come in here all the time thinking that it might be a good idea to play with the file in order to work around something that really should be solved some other way |
| 18:39.41 | HardDisk_WP | does anyone have the new NVIDIA 169 driver? |
| 18:39.44 | HardDisk_WP | in debian .deb? |
| 18:40.02 | jelly | stew: and still you tell them where it is located! :-) |
| 18:40.34 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, no |
| 18:40.46 | stew | i'm all for exploring and myabe tinkering, but not jury rigging |
| 18:41.03 | spq | stew, http://rafb.net/p/P1P3ZA85.html |
| 18:41.17 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, do you know any eta when they will be ready? |
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| 18:41.43 | stew | spq: if you run "apt-get -f install" does it want to perform any actions? |
| 18:42.16 | spq | no |
| 18:42.26 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, nope. but it's quite easy building your own. just take the 100.14.19 source package and throw in the 169.07 nvidia installer, then edit a few files to change what files and versions it's looking for and then build the package |
| 18:42.26 | spq | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded. |
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| 18:42.56 | HardDisk_WP | ah k |
| 18:43.08 | Eulex | I've done so. |
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| 18:44.04 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, do you know if this version builds with a .24-rc6 kernel? |
| 18:44.18 | Eulex | no idea |
| 18:44.24 | Eulex | I wouldn't bet on it, though |
| 18:44.54 | magyar | having issues with kvm, cant browse the net with usermode network stack |
| 18:44.56 | Eulex | any particular reason you're running .24-rc6, though? |
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| 18:46.14 | k31th | Guys, I have pppd installed I am trying to connect this box to my ISP but when i do ifconfig i never see a ppp device there? what's going on ? |
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| 18:47.20 | Guerin | kirk11: ifconfig -a |
| 18:47.23 | Guerin | bah |
| 18:47.24 | Guerin | k31th: |
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| 18:47.37 | brett | hrm anybody know if there's a bug in using cvs over nfs? |
| 18:47.57 | brett | Don't see anything obvious on the package bug page. |
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| 18:48.07 | Eulex | brett, that is, you've checked out a cvs repo onto an nfs share? |
| 18:48.10 | justin | beardy: I'd imagine it won't work very well if you don't have locking setup right |
| 18:48.19 | spq | stew, is this a bug? :) |
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| 18:48.30 | brett | Eulex: no, mounted an already checked out repo |
| 18:48.38 | gpm | hey is it normal for me to not have an /etc/environment file? |
| 18:48.40 | k31th | Guerin: still not there :( |
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| 18:48.41 | Eulex | ok |
| 18:49.00 | Guerin | k31th: did you run pppconfig? |
| 18:49.01 | brett | doing any cvs command there gives ' cannot get working directory: No such file or directory' |
| 18:49.15 | HardDisk_WP | afk |
| 18:49.29 | Eulex | gpm, it is, /etc/default/locale has replaced it |
| 18:49.37 | gpm | Eulex: thanks |
| 18:49.44 | k31th | Guerin: nope i did it by hand? |
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| 18:49.59 | Guerin | k31th: are you asking a question, or making a statement? |
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| 18:50.34 | k31th | Guerin: i created the ppp peer configs by hand |
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| 18:51.04 | Guerin | k31th: hm, ok. Are you confident you did it properly? |
| 18:51.18 | gigo | hi in aptitude flashplugin-nonfree is marked as 'c'. what does it mean? |
| 18:51.25 | Guerin | gigo: man aptitude |
| 18:51.27 | gigo | also the Install/remove packages is disabled in the actoin menu |
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| 18:51.45 | k31th | Guerin: quite, i will try pppconfig a moment. |
| 18:51.48 | brett | ahh |
| 18:51.55 | brett | #456164 seems the ticket. |
| 18:52.11 | psyklops | x |
| 18:52.22 | gigo | please help |
| 18:52.26 | k31th | what should i put in modem speed, this is an ADSL PCI card. |
| 18:52.35 | Guerin | k31th: i've only ever done it with pppconfig - it Just Worked. Give it a crack and see what gives. |
| 18:52.37 | gigo | i want to install flash for my iceweasel browser on AMD64 bit |
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| 18:52.46 | k31th | Guerin: ^ |
| 18:52.58 | Guerin | k31th: you probably want pppoeconfig |
| 18:53.19 | k31th | the pci adsl card is in the machine. |
| 18:53.24 | Guerin | k31th: but if it's dsl, put the highest speed allowed for serial - 115200 or whatever it is |
| 18:53.40 | Guerin | oh, not over ethernet |
| 18:54.14 | k31th | Guerin: nope. |
| 18:54.22 | gigo | Guerin: couldn't find anythiing for c in man aptitude |
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| 18:56.44 | k31th | Guerin: where would I see pppd logs? |
| 18:56.49 | helo | how do i reinstall all of the nvidia driver packages? |
| 18:57.15 | helo | i have a version mismatch between my kernel driver and the libraries, and i'd prefer to just reinstall it all and move on with my life ;) |
| 18:57.48 | stew | k31th: /var/log/syslog |
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| 18:58.50 | spq | I have a problem, i have a local debian repo with some patched packages, which is pinned to prio 999 and some pakages are always reinstalled on apt-get upgrade, some outputs: http://rafb.net/p/ctPce927.html |
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| 18:59.52 | stew | spq: why not just bump the version number of your local packages? |
| 18:59.55 | stew | spq: and put them on hold? |
| 19:00.33 | spq | i thought it would be simpler this way and it is, just why does apt reinstall thee packages |
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| 19:01.10 | jelly | spq: what if you pin them to something lower than 990, like 989? |
| 19:01.18 | spq | i ll test |
| 19:02.14 | braindump03 | hum... is there any way to see, what i have installed by myself in aptitude? |
| 19:02.33 | stew | jelly: have a look at his pastebin, as far as priorities are concerned his already installed pacakges are highest priority. |
| 19:02.33 | spq | i have pinned them to 900 but still they are reinstalled on upgrade |
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| 19:02.46 | stew | spq: they aren't being reinstalled |
| 19:02.47 | hoxu | braindump03, the packages that aren't marked automatically installed? :) |
| 19:02.55 | spq | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 19:02.55 | spq | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.07 | braindump03 | hoxu, yes but i even do not know, how to get a list of them ;) |
| 19:03.12 | stew | braindump03: aptitude search '~i!~M' |
| 19:03.15 | spq | how else should i call this if im always asked to reinstall them? |
| 19:03.27 | stew | spq: upgrade |
| 19:03.44 | spq | but to the same version |
| 19:03.47 | stew | spq: yes |
| 19:03.48 | spq | i call this reinstall |
| 19:03.51 | stew | spq: apt doesn't |
| 19:03.54 | spq | okay |
| 19:04.00 | braindump03 | thanks stew =) |
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| 19:04.31 | hoxu | stew, neat, now that I think about that, that's a good 'limit' for checking what packages to upgrade on unstable :p |
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| 19:05.25 | stew | spq: you might check the bts about this and see if there is a related bug, and perhaps consider filing one if one doesn't already exist |
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| 19:07.58 | helo | lol... eviltris is great |
| 19:08.34 | jelly | looks like #376216 (and merged friends) |
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| 19:10.00 | stew | yeah |
| 19:10.29 | stew | first reported in 2001 |
| 19:10.31 | jelly | I seem to remember removing something in /var/*/apt to get around that |
| 19:10.41 | jelly | or some other apt bogosity |
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| 19:10.55 | gigo | how can I install java plugin for iceweasel on my amd 64bit debian? |
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| 19:11.10 | stew | well he only cares becuase he has a locally modified pacakge with the same version number so the fix is easy, to correctly bump the version number on the changed pacakge |
| 19:11.28 | stew | gigo: aptitude install gcjwebplugin |
| 19:11.43 | jelly | spq: just for fun, what happens if you remove /var/cache/apt/* files, rerun update and upgrade? |
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| 19:11.58 | gigo | stew: i can't install the sun plugin? |
| 19:12.06 | stew | gigo: there is no sun plugin |
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| 19:12.36 | grzywacz | Hi. |
| 19:12.40 | jelly | yes, apt gets confused (in other ways too) when there are two different debs with same version available |
| 19:12.47 | grzywacz | Any people from the debian kde team here? |
| 19:13.00 | abrotman | you might try #debian-kde |
| 19:13.01 | yang | I am wondering does scp have Resume option for resuming the file, once it has been partially downloaded? |
| 19:13.03 | stew | jelly: which imo is fine. that shouldn't be a situation that exists |
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| 19:13.18 | gigo | stew: in the internet I find this as the sun java plugin: libjavaplugin_oji.so but when I copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins it doesn't work |
| 19:13.28 | MrMinister | http://MrMinister.notlong.com |
| 19:13.33 | stew | gigo: there is no 64 bit libjavaplugin_oji.so |
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| 19:13.58 | jelly | stew: if often exists when you're testing local packages... swhy I sometimes do foo 1-0.1, 1-0.2 ... and only when I'm happy it becomes -1 |
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| 19:14.33 | stew | MrMinister: is that link somehow debian related? |
| 19:14.58 | slidesinger | I'm getting an error when I start apache2 on debian etch: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 netstat -plant | grep ':80' returns: tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 7 I presume that this is a normal function? If so then I will contact the apache folks. |
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| 19:16.34 | sep | slidesinger, sounds like apache is allready running try netstat -plont as root to verify |
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| 19:17.13 | j2^ | Hello! |
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| 19:17.50 | jelly | spq: what he said. :-) An additional changelog entry for the local build (like those on bpo) is probably the simplest way to avoid this. A custom build of foo (5.2.6-3) can be versioned foo (5.2.6-3spq1) |
| 19:17.53 | j2^ | Uhm.. 2.6.19 for Etch, does that mean i have to build a custom kernel, or is there a packaged version available?` |
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| 19:18.02 | chops | j2^: backports.org |
| 19:18.09 | pumpkin0 | i have a problem with growisfs on etch: it fails to burn CD-R. It works fine with DVD. How can i work around that one (want to burn a netinstall-iso) ? |
| 19:18.14 | abrotman | slidesinger: try a "restart" instead of "start" |
| 19:18.22 | j2^ | chops: aha? *takes a look* |
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| 19:18.26 | jelly | pumpkin0: does cdrecord work? |
| 19:18.38 | pumpkin0 | jelly: didn't try, sec... |
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| 19:19.05 | jelly | pumpkin0: or "wodim" as the case may be |
| 19:19.25 | Radhad8549 | Hi all |
| 19:19.26 | pumpkin0 | installing ... |
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| 19:20.04 | Radhad8549 | How can I change the resolution or font-size in console? I don't have a desktop like KDE or GNOME installed |
| 19:20.37 | justin | Radhad8549: you could use a framebuffer console |
| 19:20.45 | beardy | Radhad8549: Resolution you can only change if you are using the framebuffer. Font can be choosen whatever you use. |
| 19:20.52 | justin | Radhad8549: though those generally suck, you'd probably be better off by just installing xterm |
| 19:21.06 | j2^ | chops: Any way i can find 2.6.19 specifically? I tried 2.6.22 and later from buildserver, and that made my box do a hard reboot under bootup. |
| 19:21.07 | beardy | justin: Eh? |
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| 19:21.24 | Radhad8549 | Where can I change font or font-size? |
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| 19:21.39 | eth01 | how do I enable colour on the command line btw |
| 19:21.57 | beardy | eth01: Colour for what? |
| 19:22.21 | eth01 | beardy, highlighting on the bas |
| 19:22.22 | eth01 | bash |
| 19:22.29 | chops | j2^: Hm, I didn't see that it was only 2.6.22. That said, 2.6.22 shouldn't make your machine do a hard reboot, of course. Where did you get your 2.6.22 exactly? What are you trying to do? |
| 19:22.33 | justin | ls --color ? |
| 19:23.00 | beardy | Radhad8549: Hold on, long time since I did, have to check.. |
| 19:23.01 | eth01 | how do i make that permanent though? |
| 19:23.06 | jelly | Radhad8549: change font with "consolechars", and resolution with fbset if your fb driver supports it. vesafb doesn't. |
| 19:23.08 | pumpkin0 | jelly: the long and short of it: "Cannot open SCSI driver!". wodim does not like this system. |
| 19:23.19 | jelly | pumpkin0: run as root |
| 19:23.29 | j2^ | chops: Trying to add a 3Ware 9650SE to my system. |
| 19:23.36 | Radhad8549 | I have not installed a driver for this graphic card |
| 19:23.37 | beardy | eth01: Should be on by default for all users, not root. In your users ~/.bashrc, you have aliases for coloured ls. |
| 19:24.06 | pumpkin0 | jelly: i am root. |
| 19:24.07 | beardy | Thanks jelly, that's it. |
| 19:24.26 | abrotman | Radhad8549: which video card is that? |
| 19:24.42 | jelly | pumpkin0: specify device in weird scsi-like syntax, use cdrecord -scanbus to figure it out |
| 19:24.48 | Radhad8549 | it is a nvidia 5700 |
| 19:25.03 | abrotman | if you want X .. you can use vesa .. though nv should work for 2d |
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| 19:25.25 | pumpkin0 | jelly: -scanbus returns the error. |
| 19:25.36 | K|NgGh0sT | I'm guessing there is no way to recover, tar: Skipping to next header gzip: Images.tgz: invalid compressed data--format violated tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 19:25.50 | beardy | Can one run the nvidia X driver and the rivafb (or what it may be called now) with an nvidia card now, or is it still conflicting? |
| 19:25.51 | stew | pumpkin0: is the cdr and dvdr the same optical drive? or are we talking about two different drives? |
| 19:26.41 | pumpkin0 | stew: same drive. (hdc) It can burn both types. |
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| 19:27.40 | stew | pumpkin0: how is the drive attached? scsi? sata? ide? |
| 19:27.46 | sam_uk | if i have a broken package that apt will not remove. how can i fix it? |
| 19:27.54 | Radhad8549 | I don't want to use X server, because this should only be a small server :) |
| 19:27.55 | pumpkin0 | stew: PATA/ide inside a laptop. |
| 19:27.58 | stew | sam_uk: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 19:28.00 | HardDisk_WP | eulex, this solution with the nvidia 169 driver fails :( http://pastebin.ca/845585 |
| 19:28.21 | guzu | enouf, stew, i've installed debian 3.1r6 but i'm unable to make sound work. and my pcmcia network card is no longer working :) |
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| 19:28.25 | jelly | beardy: X + fullscreen xterm is faster than a typical fb (read - never seen a fb driver that wasn't really slow; maybe matroxfb) |
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| 19:28.36 | stew | pumpkin0: is the "ide_cd" module loaded? |
| 19:28.38 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, but I have the deb-src for non-free (and I am able to apt-get source the kernel-common pkg) |
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| 19:28.52 | justin | jelly: bingo :) |
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| 19:29.05 | beardy | jelly: True, but you can't run things that uses fb then, and I still want to know.. :) |
| 19:29.17 | j2^ | chops: Iäll try the backports kernel tomorrow. I dont really do a test remotely incase i see the same problem (which i realize is a strange error) |
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| 19:29.38 | chops | j2^: nod |
| 19:29.44 | jelly | beardy: you must be one of those sick people than would run mplayer -vo cvidix in _text mode console_ if they could ;-) |
| 19:29.46 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, do you have a deb-src for non-free for unstable? |
| 19:29.57 | pumpkin0 | stew: Oo. No it is not. I wonder why the drive still works ... |
| 19:30.05 | happla | jelly: you mean there is some other way? |
| 19:30.11 | slidesinger | abrotman: same error using restart as start. |
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| 19:30.23 | stew | pumpkin0: what does "readlink -f /dev/cdrom" return? |
| 19:30.24 | beardy | jelly: I'd run an (atleast) 1024x768 fb and mplayer with aalib, yes. |
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| 19:30.47 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, only testing - wouldn't a src for unstable mix me up everything? |
| 19:30.48 | jelly | beardy: that's for wussies. text mode ftw |
| 19:30.51 | sam_uk | stew, http://www.pastebin.ca/845591 |
| 19:30.52 | beardy | (aalib maybe is renamed/replaced, but anyway. |
| 19:31.10 | j2^ | chops: The ironic thing with the reboot is that the last thing i see on the screen before the reboot is that GDTH is trying to initialize.. My problem? I have a GTDH-array as my / :) |
| 19:31.26 | beardy | jelly: Yes! That is what I said, I prefer textmode. I still want to know if the rivafb is conflicting with the nvidia driver, or not. |
| 19:31.26 | pumpkin0 | stew: "/dev/hdc" |
| 19:31.29 | jelly | vo cvidix = real graphics, with mplayer having own overlay drivers |
| 19:31.38 | chops | j2^: Well, that makes some amount of sense |
| 19:31.43 | stew | sam_uk: try running "aptitude reinstall python-libxml2" and then try removing it again |
| 19:31.48 | chops | j2^: Are you using any binary RAID drivers or anything? |
| 19:31.54 | j2^ | chops: Good. Wasnt sure it would... |
| 19:31.57 | stew | pumpkin0: is that after you just loaded ide_cd ? |
| 19:31.59 | j2^ | chops: No, just the stock kernel. |
| 19:32.05 | beardy | jelly: Ah.. overlay where you mean then though? |
| 19:32.15 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, well. testing doesn't have the nvidia driver at all at the moment. and no, a _deb-src_ line for unstable won't do anything bad to your system, but if you don't want to add one anyway you're free to download the package source files manually from packages.debian.org |
| 19:32.26 | jelly | pumpkin0: howzabout rebooting with hdc=ide-scsi, then modprobing sg and sr for great justice? |
| 19:32.29 | pumpkin0 | stew: this self-made kernel does not have ide_cd. i will reboot to a stock kernel and retry. |
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| 19:32.36 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, k |
| 19:32.38 | stew | pumpkin0: it must be built in then |
| 19:32.58 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, just a stupid question *g* how do I make a debian package of the source tree? |
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| 19:33.01 | chops | j2^: It might be worth a bug report. I'm not sure how enthusiastic the kernel maintainers are about receiving bug reports about backported kernels, of course, but if it's busted then that's wrong. If you have unlimited time you can try installing a sid image and seeing if you can repro the problem with that kernel (in which case it's definitely worth a bug report). |
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| 19:33.13 | pumpkin0 | stew: well the drive works, it just cannot burn CD-R. I'm non-plused... |
| 19:33.27 | beardy | I thought cdrecord (what was the name again..) worked fine without scsi emulation now..? |
| 19:33.27 | j2^ | chops: Well, unfortunately it is a production machine.... |
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| 19:33.42 | stew | beardy: it does |
| 19:33.44 | abrotman | beardy: it does |
| 19:33.47 | stew | beardy: (wodim) |
| 19:33.48 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, there are many guides on the net, however it surfaces to roughly dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b |
| 19:33.49 | jelly | beardy: basically, 80x25 text with movie instead of black pixels |
| 19:33.50 | chops | j2^: Been there :-( |
| 19:33.52 | j2^ | chops: Can i pull _just_ the kernel from sid? |
| 19:33.56 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, k |
| 19:33.59 | chops | j2^: Probably not |
| 19:34.04 | sam_uk | stew, that filed but provides some more info http://www.pastebin.ca/845601 |
| 19:34.08 | Ozux | hi I use Lenny, My USB flash drives and SD card reader not working in lenny now! They was working till today and I don't update any thing. |
| 19:34.10 | sam_uk | failed |
| 19:34.16 | chops | j2^: You can try, of course, but if you get a big pile of updates you shouldn't do it... |
| 19:34.22 | j2^ | chops: If nothing else, my friend is having a laff.. He prefers Ubuntu.. and they of course have a current kernel that works nicely when using a live-cd :) |
| 19:34.28 | chops | j2^: Hehe |
| 19:34.53 | chops | j2^: I'd try the backport kernel and file a bug if it doesn't work. If the maintainers don't feel like dealing with the bug they'll tell you so. |
| 19:35.00 | beardy | jelly: Sounds interesting.. |
| 19:35.18 | j2^ | chops: That neing said. Where can i find a current guide for building a "Debian-friendly" 2.6 from source? The ones i find seem to be a bit outdated? |
| 19:35.34 | chops | j2^: You can grab an old 2.6.19 source from snapshots and try to hand-compile it or something to move forward from there if you don't want to wait for a bug fix |
| 19:35.38 | sam_uk | if i can get a copy of /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/bootconfig/__init__.py could i just copy it to the correct location? |
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| 19:35.51 | chops | j2^: Not sure, /msg dpkg kernel-package has the most current information I'm aware of |
| 19:36.07 | stew | sam_uk: what does "apt-cache policy python" say for "Installed:"? |
| 19:36.08 | jelly | j2^: you could also try a really new kernel... if .22 fails try .23 or even some of those .24-rc thingies |
| 19:36.37 | j2^ | jelly: 24 gave me the same hrd reboot. (From buildserver) |
| 19:36.45 | sam_uk | stew, Installed: 2.4.4-6 |
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| 19:37.13 | jelly | j2^: or you could dig in snapshot.debian.net for something between 2.6.18 and 2.6.22 ;-) |
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| 19:37.33 | j2^ | And i thought Debian was easy|friendly|simple!!!! *ahem* ;) |
| 19:37.44 | jelly | lies! |
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| 19:37.51 | j2^ | YEah.. so it seem... so it seem :) |
| 19:37.57 | Ozux | Is there any siggestion for my UDEV? |
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| 19:38.58 | r3m0t | does the dm-setup on debian-installer use LUKS? |
| 19:39.10 | jelly | j2^: I assume you have tried the usual acpi disabling, smp disabling, ioapic disabling things when booting? |
| 19:39.28 | pl1 | I have a Debian server with acl and Samba as a PDC, I have an OSX client connected to it. The OSX client is using the local uid when trying to access, create, or edit files and not the uid of the account it used to log in to samba with, any ideas on how to modify my samba config to that it will use the uid of the samba account and not the local account. Note that windows clients have no issues here |
| 19:39.46 | stew | sam_uk: and what does the same say for python-support? |
| 19:39.47 | j2^ | jelly: Actually.. Not as well as i should have. |
| 19:39.58 | j2^ | jelly: It's a single core box tho. |
| 19:40.22 | j2^ | Actually... Does the boot log get saved anywhere useful? |
| 19:40.43 | justin | j2^: if it is crashing early on you'll have to use a serial console |
| 19:40.46 | sam_uk | stew, Installed: 0.7.5 |
| 19:40.52 | chops | r3m0t: I've set up an encrypted root using DM and LUKS using debian-installer. It's not totally straightforward, but if you know what to pick in what order you can get it to work 100% from the installer (not having to set anything up by hand at least). |
| 19:41.02 | slidesinger | pl1: Step one, always use the same uid/password if possible on both machines. Makes things a lot simpler. |
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| 19:41.09 | r3m0t | chops: any link? |
| 19:41.20 | jelly | j2^: I have no experience with Vortexes and 3ware in the same box... but various versions of each work separately around here. ;-) |
| 19:41.43 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, eh...another question, how do i apply the .diff? |
| 19:41.47 | pl1 | slidesinger: yeah but the problem is then I'd have to modify every mac toting users personal laptop |
| 19:41.54 | j2^ | jelly: GROOOOAAAAN |
| 19:41.54 | HardDisk_WP | patch <../xy.diff doesnt generate the directory |
| 19:42.10 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, what diff? |
| 19:42.12 | slidesinger | pl1: Step two: if this is a shared resource, try the force group option and make sure all accounts using the resource belong to the group. |
| 19:42.13 | j2^ | justin: Good point! I did not think of that.... |
| 19:42.20 | Eulex | aah |
| 19:42.25 | Eulex | the .diff.gz? |
| 19:42.31 | jelly | j2^: stupid idea, can you move the new card to another slot? |
| 19:42.37 | pickcoder | vortex? |
| 19:42.38 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, from the source, there are three files. one orig.tar.gz, one .dsc and one gzipped diff, which i unpacked |
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| 19:42.41 | HardDisk_WP | yes |
| 19:42.45 | j2^ | jelly: Uhm, the new card isnt even in the box yet. |
| 19:42.45 | pl1 | slidesinger: is there a way to force group / force user to the name of the user share? |
| 19:42.55 | slidesinger | pl1: Just add the account on the samba box. No mod necessary on the macs. |
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| 19:43.17 | jelly | pickcoder: "ICP Vortex", the company that made cards driven by gdth driver |
| 19:43.20 | pl1 | slidesinger: the think is it is using UID=0 on the mac |
| 19:43.25 | pl1 | er...thing |
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| 19:43.36 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, use dpkg-source |
| 19:44.02 | j2^ | jelly: I thought i hit jackbot about six months back when i found 4 VOrtex cards, and about 30 U320-drives in our trash :=) |
| 19:44.02 | slidesinger | pl1: and are the resources allowing apropriate connection? |
| 19:44.11 | pickcoder | ah.. Adaptec owned now |
| 19:44.14 | plb | slidesinger: yes |
| 19:44.53 | slidesinger | pl1: and we are talking home dir's here? |
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| 19:44.55 | HardDisk_WP | thx |
| 19:44.59 | plb | slidesinger: yes |
| 19:45.15 | r3m0t | chops: did you need to use expert mode? |
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| 19:45.34 | pickcoder | j2^: you can always enable kernel debugging |
| 19:45.37 | jelly | j2^: the hwraid are a bit slow but have nice features that eg. linux md raid didn't have until recently |
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| 19:46.00 | Alcap | hello |
| 19:46.21 | slidesinger | pl1: Is every account trying to hit the same home dir, or is say user pl1 connecting to /home/pl1 etc? |
| 19:46.34 | Alcap | does anyone know why kde doesn't resize the windows in order to keep everything inside the screen? |
| 19:46.35 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, what did you do with the patches? |
| 19:46.45 | Alcap | or is there an option I need to enable? |
| 19:46.47 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, dpkg-source applies them. |
| 19:46.56 | jelly | j2^: ah, so you're not very used to gdth? there's a common boot option to try when it hangs |
| 19:47.00 | plb | slidesinger: the /home/[user_name] route |
| 19:47.03 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, ok |
| 19:47.06 | j2^ | Well, what i HAVE just done is: Downlaod 2.6.19 from kernel.org. Loaded the config for the Debian 2.6.18. Make clean. make-kpkg clean |
| 19:47.13 | j2^ | and at least it built clean for me. |
| 19:47.36 | j2^ | jelly: Nope. Not really experienced at all. What prey tell? |
| 19:47.47 | jelly | j2^: I think it's even mentioned in the help for Debian install cd (the syslinux help with f-keys) |
| 19:48.25 | pumpkin0 | etch netiso-install (booted via USB to save time) complains about the ethernet card. it cannot find one. The card is listed as unknown with PCI-ID 1969:1048 (it should be a realtec).Next step ? |
| 19:49.07 | jelly | j2^: gdth=disable:y |
| 19:49.18 | slidesinger | plb: Sounds like things are working as they should. The UID is getting translated correctly to match the UID on the server and users are getting routed to their home directories. Why do you wish to force user? |
| 19:49.39 | j2^ | jelly: I cant really do that, since my / is on that controller? |
| 19:49.44 | psyklops | Does debian use alsa by default? |
| 19:49.44 | jelly | hmph |
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| 19:50.04 | plb | slidesinger: when he creates a file it comes up as UID=0, and he cannot access any of the files that belong to the account he authenticated with |
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| 19:50.26 | plb | slidesinger: unless they have o+rX |
| 19:50.28 | stew | psyklops: no |
| 19:50.36 | slidesinger | psyklops: Linux kernel 2.6 uses alsa by default. |
| 19:50.39 | psyklops | oh, then what does it use? |
| 19:50.44 | stew | psyklops: nothing |
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| 19:51.09 | psyklops | well.. I have sound, but installing alsa-tools brings in alsa-base which makes me thing I'm not using alsa |
| 19:51.09 | stew | psyklops: it can use either it just doesn't set anything up by default. /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 19:51.23 | slidesinger | plb: did you check to see who owns the file? |
| 19:51.26 | Eulex | is there any good tool in debian for creating a 'school schedule'? that is, a picture that has the 5 columns (1 for each day) for a week, and time goes vertically from ~08.00 to ~17.00? I've got 5 courses next term, and I want to unify everything into one schedule I can print |
| 19:51.43 | jelly | j2^: what about gdth=rescan:0 ? |
| 19:51.48 | plb | slidesinger: which the existing files or the one he created? |
| 19:51.55 | slidesinger | both |
| 19:52.08 | j2^ | jelly: Where do you find these options? |
| 19:52.13 | plb | slidesinger: existing files are owned by his unix account, the new one by root |
| 19:52.30 | jelly | j2^: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Owi7QQGLDfUJ:www.icp-vortex.com/ftp/download/rz_neu/linux/drivers/readme.txt+gdth+rescan |
| 19:52.33 | cahoot | Eulex: any spreadsheet? |
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| 19:52.59 | jelly | j2^: first result for gdth rescan |
| 19:53.18 | Eulex | cahoot, heh, true... |
| 19:53.40 | slidesinger | How many users? |
| 19:53.48 | j2^ | jelly: Thanks. But i think i should start with using a serial console, and actually _see_ wtf is happening. |
| 19:53.53 | slidesinger | plb: How many users? |
| 19:54.19 | jelly | j2^: you're not at the console? |
| 19:54.38 | plb | slidesingeR: 281 |
| 19:54.45 | slidesinger | plb: and how many have this problem? |
| 19:54.54 | plb | slidesinger: heh the boss :-P |
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| 19:55.05 | j2^ | jelly: The box is at work. Hence why i said i would try it tomorrow. |
| 19:55.33 | plb | slidesinger: although I suspect the other mac users just haven't realized it yet |
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| 19:56.41 | slidesinger | If it is just the one user, fix it at the mac. The problem with force user= and force group= is that they force _all_ logins to use the same UID or GID respectively, so that would not fix your problem. |
| 19:56.57 | averule | hi to all i am installing operating system ..in gui mode it is installing well but in text mode it is hanging after tasksel selection |
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| 19:58.19 | plb | slidesinger: I just wish there was a server-end fix so I don't have to fix it with every new person who comes in with their shiny toy^B^B^B mac. |
| 19:58.47 | slidesinger | plyou can do: ls -Rl | grep root and see how many users directories it crops up in. |
| 19:58.59 | sam_uk | anyone have any ideas how I can fix this severely broken package? |
| 19:59.04 | slidesinger | plb: you can do: ls -Rl | grep root and see how many users directories it crops up in. |
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| 19:59.15 | sam_uk | can i create the file that is missing? |
| 19:59.33 | hoxu | sam_uk, what was the problem? |
| 19:59.54 | slidesinger | plb: make that: ls -Rl /home | grep root |
| 20:00.30 | sam_uk | i have a package that is severely broken. it cannot be re-intsalled with aptitude |
| 20:01.09 | sam_uk | more info more info http://www.pastebin.ca/845601 |
| 20:01.11 | chops | sam_uk: Can you pastebin what happens when you try to reinstall it with aptitude? |
| 20:01.23 | sam_uk | chops, :) |
| 20:01.31 | chops | sam_uk: heh |
| 20:02.26 | hoxu | sam_uk, did you check the bts to see if any others had the problem and how they fixed it? |
| 20:02.35 | sam_uk | i'm thinking that I could just copy the file into the correct location |
| 20:02.46 | chops | sam_uk: Do you have a /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/bootconfig/__init__.py file? |
| 20:02.56 | sam_uk | hoxu, I have been googling - not found anything yet |
| 20:03.04 | sam_uk | no |
| 20:03.06 | hoxu | chops, it says no such file :) |
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| 20:03.25 | sam_uk | could i borrow yours? if you have one.. |
| 20:03.37 | justin | plb: do you have unix extensions on? |
| 20:03.48 | chops | sam_uk: Why is it dealing with python 2.5? What version of the 'python' package do you have installed? Do you have python2.5 installed? |
| 20:04.06 | justin | plb: that could be what is making it not work, or what you need to make it work.. :) |
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| 20:04.23 | sam_uk | how do i check please? |
| 20:04.31 | chops | sam_uk: dpkg -l python python2.5 |
| 20:04.33 | hoxu | sam_uk, dpkg -l 'python*' |
| 20:04.51 | stew | sam_uk: try "aptitude reinstall python-support" then try again |
| 20:05.01 | stew | chops: < sam_uk> stew, Installed: 2.4.4-6 |
| 20:05.08 | hoxu | sam_uk, if nothing else helps, you could maybe tweak /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-libxml2.prerm - but I'm not sure what might be screwed up if you do :p |
| 20:05.29 | sam_uk | ii python 2.4.4-6 An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version) |
| 20:05.29 | sam_uk | ii python2.5 2.5.1-5 An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5) |
| 20:05.39 | chops | stew: Ah, thanks |
| 20:05.55 | plb | justin: unix extensions? on the mac? |
| 20:06.12 | slidesinger | plb: The other things I would check out: make sure they aren't running their mac as the user admin. Not only could that be the cause of this problem, but it is a major security hole. The other thing I would check is how and where the mount is being created on the mac. I would be willing to bet that the mac does not default to UID 0 for the regular user. |
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| 20:07.20 | chops | sam_uk: Curious. I assume you haven't done anything funny to your python packages or anything? I would file a bug against python-libxml2 myself. |
| 20:07.31 | plb | slidesinger: they are using the locally created account the mac creates when you start it for the first time, ie the local admin... technically not root, but I'm not sure how well the Mac makes that distinction |
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| 20:08.05 | sam_uk | chops, I'm pretty sure it was my own fauld |
| 20:08.16 | ericpersson | ls -la down |
| 20:08.24 | stew | sam_uk: what was? |
| 20:08.25 | ericpersson | bah.. |
| 20:08.26 | ericpersson | :) |
| 20:08.33 | slidesinger | plb: Create a generic user account, just like linux. Macs use the same security model if you set them up right. |
| 20:08.35 | sam_uk | this breakage |
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| 20:09.04 | sam_uk | what would I do to /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-libxml2.prerm ? |
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| 20:09.19 | slidesinger | plb: the admin account is one step removed from root, allowing rwx to an awful lot of the HDD. |
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| 20:09.54 | chops | sam_uk: Yeah? In that case I'd just try to fool it into working however you can :-/ |
| 20:09.55 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 20:09.56 | plb | slidesinger: the problem is I have no control over the Macs most are personal and the ones that aren't I don't have access to |
| 20:10.02 | chops | sam_uk: stew's suggesting of reinstalling python-support might help |
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| 20:10.17 | sam_uk | chops, I tried that. |
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| 20:10.24 | chops | sam_uk: :-( |
| 20:10.24 | plb | slidesinger: 99% of my problems is the inability of the professors to give me the authority I need :-P |
| 20:10.28 | stew | the only thing in debian with bootconfig/__init__.py is startupmanager but that is a pycentral package, not a pysupport package |
| 20:10.47 | slidesinger | plb: Do you have access to the boss's now that he has this problem? |
| 20:11.03 | chops | sam_uk: Are you able to remove python2.5? |
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| 20:11.35 | mntzn | Why i cant see my wireless card in iwconfig? lspci shows it, modprobe iwl3945 outputs nothing ,im thinking it works, but no wireless |
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| 20:11.42 | plb | slidesinger: not really... when I went to help it was more of me make a suggestion for him to check something which he may or may not :-P |
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| 20:12.26 | chops | !anyone |
| 20:12.26 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 20:13.58 | cahoot | mntzn: dmesg doesn't complain abut firmware? |
| 20:14.19 | stew | sam_uk: does "/usr/share/python-support/bootconfig" exist? if so, what does "dpkg -S usr/share/python-support/bootconfig" return ? |
| 20:14.25 | sam_uk | python2.5 removed |
| 20:15.11 | mntzn | cahoot: i'll check |
| 20:15.20 | cahoot | mntzn: mac80211 enabled? |
| 20:15.29 | sam_uk | stew it does not exist |
| 20:15.31 | slidesinger | plb: That can be tough, though I usually am able to get users to let me work on it while they watch. Basically, you need to let him know that the issue is definitely on his side, not on the server side. This means that if he wants you to fix it, you need access to the machine. If security is important to him, then speak to him about that as well. |
| 20:15.42 | mntzn | cahoot: yep, says ucode firmware file req failed |
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| 20:16.22 | cahoot | mntzn: IIRC you need fw from here: http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi |
| 20:16.29 | stew | sam_uk: then afaik, "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/bootconfig" shouldn't exist either. what does "readlink -f /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/bootconfig/__init__.py" return? |
| 20:17.08 | sam_uk | sam# readlink -f /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/bootconfig/__init__.py |
| 20:17.08 | sam_uk | clientname:/home/sam# |
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| 20:18.03 | stew | sam_uk: i'd just "rm -r /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/bootconfig" afaik, it shouldn't be there are all |
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| 20:18.56 | mntzn | it doesnt say on what to do |
| 20:19.06 | sam_uk | yay! well done stew |
| 20:19.11 | sam_uk | thanks all |
| 20:19.18 | mntzn | oh sry i'we found it |
| 20:19.38 | sam_uk | Unpacking replacement python-libxml2 ... |
| 20:19.38 | sam_uk | Setting up python-libxml2 (2.6.30.dfsg-3) ... |
| 20:19.42 | sam_uk | ... |
| 20:19.45 | stew | sam_uk: i'm asking an old maintainer of startupmanager if he has any idea how that ever happened |
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| 20:20.08 | stew | (assuming that startupmanager was what was repsonsible for that dangling directory) |
| 20:20.13 | sam_uk | stew I think it was my own fault |
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| 20:20.25 | Assid | hi |
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| 20:20.34 | sam_uk | I think i may have created it in the first place |
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| 20:20.35 | Assid | i need some help recompiling the debian amd64 kernel |
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| 20:20.45 | dante_2core | if yes, i'll leave again |
| 20:20.48 | Assid | ive installed the sources/headers package |
| 20:21.05 | sam_uk | trying to get a svn startupmanager working |
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| 20:21.15 | stew | sam_uk: aha! that would explain it |
| 20:21.21 | Assid | i cant seem to make menuconfig in that directory |
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| 20:21.47 | SamuraiDio | my system always stay a lot time in this part of boot (http://pastebin.com/d66ee5398 -> line 286), what could be causing this? i'm using an usb keyboard. |
| 20:21.53 | spq | jelly, i removed the files you mentioned but it didnt help :/ |
| 20:21.58 | stew | Assid: what directory did you try to run "make menuconfig" in? |
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| 20:22.17 | sam_uk | then i forgot about it, went away did something else for a month. then came back to it.. |
| 20:22.26 | Assid | stew: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5-amd64 |
| 20:22.42 | spq | and theses postfix packages are the only packages that get upgaded again and again not what is wrinnten in the bug report |
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| 20:23.00 | stew | Assid: you can build the kernel headers, you need to get a source package, "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18" which will put a .tar.bz2 in /usr/src |
| 20:23.18 | stew | Assid: why are you recomiling your kernel? |
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| 20:23.36 | Assid | stew: asterisk/zaptel needs me to change the CONFIG_HZ to 1000 |
| 20:23.56 | Assid | and i need to use the latest/src asterisk |
| 20:24.04 | stew | yeah, then you need to compile your own kernel |
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| 20:25.31 | Assid | stew: got 1/2 a mind of getting a vanilla kernel from kernel.org atm |
| 20:25.47 | Assid | everyone yelling at me :( |
| 20:26.24 | helo | Assid: YARRRRR! |
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| 20:28.04 | Assid | stew: should i just use a vanilla kernel? |
| 20:28.49 | jmd1 | My laptop's mouse pointer stopped moving. Turning the touchpad off and on had effect. Plugging in a usb mouse had no effect. Reloading the psmouse kernel module had no effect. Rebooting made the mouse work again, but also made me feel dumb for not understanding what was going on. Can anyone enlighten me or suggest what tools I should have used? |
| 20:29.14 | Eulex | jmd1, did you check yout logs? |
| 20:29.21 | stew | Assid: it shouldn't make a difference. you could also grab a new source from http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.23 |
| 20:30.46 | Assid | wouldnt it be http://packages.debian.org/linux-source-2.6.23 ? |
| 20:30.59 | Assid | those seem to be the image |
| 20:31.22 | stew | Assid: yes, sorry |
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| 20:32.14 | jmd1 | Eulex: no. That's probably what I should have done, huh? |
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| 20:33.17 | HardDisk_WP | jmd1, check dmesg |
| 20:33.33 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, do you still have the modified files for the nvidia stuff? |
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| 20:35.16 | HeatHawk[AP] | Are there any tools or guides for remastering a debian install? |
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| 20:36.17 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, I do |
| 20:37.06 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, can you please diff them and send me to marco@harddisk.is-a-geek.org? that's a bit too complex for me |
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| 20:37.37 | stew | HeatHawk[AP]: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify |
| 20:37.37 | chops | HeatHawk[AP]: "Remastering"? |
| 20:38.17 | HeatHawk[AP] | stew, thanks |
| 20:38.30 | HeatHawk[AP] | chops, custom install disk :p |
| 20:38.37 | chops | HeatHawk[AP]: Ah, got it |
| 20:38.48 | maddash | !rclocal |
| 20:38.48 | dpkg | it has been said that rc.local is /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. if you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is considered a hack, consider writing a real init script (ask me about <init.d>). |
| 20:39.57 | azeem | w21 |
| 20:39.58 | azeem | oops |
| 20:41.17 | HardDisk_WP | !init.d |
| 20:41.17 | dpkg | well, init.d is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript default". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README |
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| 20:44.34 | Eulex | HardDisk_WP, ftp://eulex.zapto.org/nvidia-graphics-drivers-169.07.diff -- note that I ripped out the amd64 stuff because I did it quickly and only needed 386, and that I can't guarantee a thing about it |
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| 20:45.24 | ericpersson | have anyone tried using the new solid state disks for a workstation? was it any good? Noticeable difference? |
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| 20:46.45 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: i used a usb-stick. Yes, it is way faster.... |
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| 20:46.57 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: even on a usbstick? |
| 20:47.08 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: what parts did you put on it? |
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| 20:47.38 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: everything except home und tmp. compressed versions of usr, bin, lib, sbin, opt,.. |
| 20:47.57 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: compressed versions? |
| 20:48.14 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: squashfs. didn't fit otherwise. |
| 20:48.35 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: i got a sdcardreader on my laptop, and thought i would get something like a 8gb sdcard and put there. do you think that would give similar benefits? |
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| 20:49.20 | SaldainiS | who want free hotdog ? |
| 20:49.41 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: no. SD-card readers usually max out at 15-20MB/s and 10ms seek time. Good USB-Sticks do 40MB/s and 0.2 ms seek time. |
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| 20:50.02 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: ahh.. to bad.. |
| 20:50.21 | ericpersson | i figured it would be similar.. really would have loosed the outstanding usbstick.. |
| 20:50.28 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: you can get a very fast system using ramfs. But you need a lot of ram... |
| 20:50.38 | SaldainiS | ericpersson I need $ ! |
| 20:50.46 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: i got like 2gb, so that might be an option.. |
| 20:51.15 | ericpersson | SaldainiS: i doubt you to deliver a hotdog to where i am.. ;) |
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| 20:51.23 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: it is possible starting around 1.5GB. But with like 600MB RAM left were is not much you can do. |
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| 20:51.43 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: got any ideas on where in the bootprocess it should be done? |
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| 20:52.53 | magyar | having issues with kvm, cant browse the net with usermode network stack on Lenny |
| 20:53.12 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: it is easy to setup. You have to exchange the mount-root-system part inside the initrd-image. |
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| 20:54.41 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: aha, know what it is called, so i can google for a bit? |
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| 20:55.39 | Bladerunner05 | Hello wich is the best rescue live cd to try to recover my reiserfs disk data after a failure ? |
| 20:56.12 | {Nathan}_ | I have Debian Etch installed. I was wondering if there was a way to switch to Sid without reinstalling. I don't want to mess anything up though. (editing /etc/apt/sources.list?) |
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| 20:57.00 | stew | {Nathan}_: its possible to go from stable to testing or unstable but not the reverse |
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| 20:58.16 | {Nathan} | Alright. So I'm in testing, and I want to unstable. So how do I do that? |
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| 21:00.09 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: i always did it by hand. I don't know if there is a premade script. |
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| 21:02.50 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: yeah, but where is it done, what should i google for? |
| 21:02.53 | ericpersson | :) |
| 21:04.29 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: i last did it for a 2.6.15 kernel. No idea about the current kernels. Uncompress the stock-initrd-image and look at mount_device in initrd-image/sbin/init. It is the first methode. |
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| 21:06.35 | rahul | !penixstrike penix |
| 21:06.35 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking penix to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 21:06.37 | HardDisk_WP | Eulex, thanks, will look at it tomorrow |
| 21:06.42 | rahul | damn linksys |
| 21:07.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | {Nathan}: yes, add unstable sources to sources.list - if you didn't configure a preference for testing or unstable, that should be it |
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| 21:07.26 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: ok, will have a look.. |
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| 21:08.11 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: thanks for the input..btw, tried the sdcardreader, it was reeeeaaalllly slow.. |
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| 21:09.11 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: hmm..i have my custom compiled kernel, it doesnt have a initrd.. |
| 21:09.51 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: you can create a inited-image for almost any kernel. |
| 21:10.09 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: really, need to read up on this.. |
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| 21:12.02 | ericpersson | pumpkin0: care yo share your initrd btw? |
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| 21:15.00 | ftp3 | can i access a nfs on a public internet server? i set one up on my server, and when i try and access it from home, it says permission denied |
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| 21:16.34 | SaldainiS | Good night:* |
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| 21:17.27 | pumpkin0 | ericpersson: i can send you my /sbin/init-script by mail, yes. PM me with your email-ady. |
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| 21:18.38 | ezguy | is there a mozilla-seamonkey package available? |
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| 21:22.47 | abrotman | ezguy: iceape |
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| 21:24.40 | abrotman | !icelizard |
| 21:24.40 | dpkg | Icelizard is the collection of applications that replace popular Mozilla applications, currently listed as IceWeasel(Firefox), IceDove(Thunderbird), IceApe(SeaMonkey), IceOwl(Sunbird). |
| 21:24.50 | hughw | hi guys. I have problems using SSH from outside our internal network. From inside, I can simply SSH to the machine, no prob. Our LAN is behind a firewall (netsonic) and the firewall rule that passes SSH traffic to this machine works. It still rejects traffic from outside. Any help appreciated |
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| 21:26.22 | hughw | abrotman, ? Can you help? |
| 21:26.33 | abrotman | sounds like a router issue |
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| 21:26.51 | pumpkin0 | i have hit the "cannot open default font fixed"-error. There was a simple, how did it work again ? |
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| 21:27.10 | jelly-home | !fixed |
| 21:27.10 | dpkg | it has been said that fixed font is if X is complaining about "finding font 'fixed'" you don't have the xfonts-base package. usually this means you want to "aptitude install xorg" |
| 21:27.31 | Tramp | hughw: does "netcat <IP> 22" give you the banner of the ssh server? |
| 21:27.37 | pumpkin0 | jelly-home: thanks. |
| 21:27.45 | hughw | abrotman, I've checked the router thusly: I can direct http traffic to an IIS machine on the internal network, and it is all OK. If I direct it to the debian box, the same thing happens with apache as with sshd. I does not reply. |
| 21:27.58 | hughw | Tramp, from outside? |
| 21:28.10 | Tramp | hughw: yes |
| 21:28.18 | hughw | I'll try tramp |
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| 21:29.05 | Tramp | hughw: I mean the IP to which you would connect from outside of course |
| 21:29.45 | hughw | Tramp, no response |
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| 21:30.04 | hughw | Tramp, netcat mail.positivelywellingtonbusiness.co.nz 22 |
| 21:30.08 | Tramp | hughw: so why do you say the forwarding on the firewall works? |
| 21:30.33 | hughw | Tramp, because a similar thing happens with http. |
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| 21:30.50 | sdubois92 | how do i connect to a samba share from the command line? |
| 21:31.13 | hughw | Tramp, I can point http to the IIS machine internally, and it reposnds. Do the same thing for the Debian box: nothing |
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| 21:32.01 | Tramp | hughw: Sorry, but I cannot follow your logic. |
| 21:32.08 | hughw | what should iptables look like for a machine that accepts anything and everything? |
| 21:32.43 | hughw | Tramp, if I can redirect http traffic, then I can also redirect SSh traffic, no? |
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| 21:33.20 | hughw | Tramp, so I reckon that if I can make http work, I can make ssh work too. |
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| 21:33.39 | Tramp | hughw: yes. But the fact that you apparently got it right for machine A/protocolX does not mean you got it right for machine B/protocolY |
| 21:34.07 | Tramp | hughw: ok. You got root on the ssh-Server? |
| 21:34.15 | hughw | Tramp, sure. but setting the rule on NetSonic is a pretty simple thing |
| 21:34.22 | hughw | tramp, yes, I have root |
| 21:34.57 | Tramp | hughw: ok. Run tcpdump -envi eth0 port 22 (assuming that eth0 is the correct interface) |
| 21:35.08 | hughw | ok |
| 21:35.24 | Tramp | hughw: connect from outside and see, if you see packets (maybe connect from inside first, so you know what you should see) |
| 21:35.28 | hughw | oops, tcpdump not installed. |
| 21:35.39 | hughw | ok |
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| 21:36.46 | sdubois92 | how do i connect to a samba share from the command line? |
| 21:37.02 | hughw | !smb |
| 21:37.02 | dpkg | hmm... smb is Server Message Block or how Microsoft pulls off its networking sharing magic, or see <CIFS>, or Super Mario Brothers, or ask me about <samba> |
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| 21:37.11 | hughw | !samba |
| 21:37.11 | dpkg | [samba] a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html), or #samba on irc.freenode.net, or <samba etch5> |
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| 21:37.44 | hughw | !smbmount |
| 21:37.44 | dpkg | i guess smbmount is 'smbmount //HOST/SHARE PASS -c 'mount MOUNT_POINT'' |
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| 21:38.26 | justin | !+factinfo smbmount |
| 21:38.26 | dpkg | smbmount -- created by xk <Tdho2k@reggae-10-35.nv.iinet.net.au> at Tue Jun 6 14:37:11 2000 (2771 days); it has been requested 26 times, last by hughw, 42s ago. |
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| 21:38.37 | justin | yeahhh, pretty sure that factoid needs an update |
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| 21:42.05 | hughw | Tramp, ssh packets arriving at the machine would have the firewall's IP address as the src, correct? |
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| 21:42.25 | hughw | Tramp, (trying to lessen the amount of stuff in the TCP dump) |
| 21:42.33 | justin | hughw: no |
| 21:42.34 | Tramp | hughw: no, unless the firewall proxies |
| 21:42.51 | ozzy | I have a AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 processor. I have been using the linux-image-2.6.22-2-k7 kernel. Is this correct? |
| 21:42.51 | Tramp | what it should not do for ssh |
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| 21:44.01 | Tramp | hughw: are there that many connections to this ssh server? |
| 21:44.13 | justin | hughw: tcpdump -n port 22 and not host 'ip address you logged in from' |
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| 21:44.48 | hughw | so tcpdump `port 22 and not net 10.1.1.0` should work? |
| 21:45.16 | justin | hughw: tcpdump -n port 22 and not host 10.1.1 |
| 21:45.18 | Tramp | yes. But please use flags "envi" |
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| 21:45.44 | hughw | ok |
| 21:46.13 | justin | tcpdump understands that these days as not net 10.1.1.0/24 |
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| 21:48.02 | hughw | Tramp, yep, it's listening. You're right, nothing arrives. So much thanks, I now have the tools to do what I need. ciao. :0 |
| 21:48.10 | usr_ | what is the 'sy' line in top reading, kernel load? Ho can I get more info on this, any utility recomendations |
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| 21:48.23 | Tramp | hughw: ok, np. |
| 21:48.38 | Fackamato | what's the difference between swfdec-mozilla and libflash-mozplugin ? |
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| 21:48.52 | abrotman | apt-cache show <pkg> .. read the description ? |
| 21:49.01 | chuck | if i want to set quotas for users, what packages should i install? quota and quotatool? |
| 21:49.10 | Fackamato | abrotman, they both have the same description |
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| 21:49.23 | samo | hi, i have just setup a new machine based on a ASRock motherboard with nvidia chipset. I don't know which/how to install the drivers (right now, i'm running the default vesa driver with limited resolution) |
| 21:50.08 | chops | samo: For the open source drivers, you should already have them; the vendor drivers are more difficult to install. /msg dpkg nvidia for more about them. |
| 21:50.26 | ozzy | anyone here know about what is the correct kernel for turion64 processor? |
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| 21:51.13 | samo | chops, thanks for the information |
| 21:51.18 | chops | samo: np |
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| 21:53.54 | pumpkin | freahly installed etch with packages from lenny: running apt-get update gives me "W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org etch Release: Unknown error executing gpgv". Should i be worried ? |
| 21:54.57 | abrotman | !bts |
| 21:54.57 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of sid and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for sid and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges . |
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| 22:01.25 | thc | !kingsleysmite abrotman |
| 22:01.25 | dpkg | Citizen Volunteer abrotman: Your Productivity* Rating has fallen below 0.311920049638626! This is unacceptable. Please report to http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/ for immediate termination! |
| 22:01.39 | thc | which file in /etc do i need to edit to stop console logging |
| 22:01.51 | thc | i need to add a kernel.printk line and i don't remember which file |
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| 22:01.59 | justin | thc: /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 22:02.04 | thc | that's it! |
| 22:02.06 | thc | cheers |
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| 22:02.33 | vinvin | hi |
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| 22:04.01 | abrotman | hi |
| 22:04.05 | cizzi | is there a way for the 'diff' command to only ouput the actually differences and nothing else? i tried man diff but couldnt find anything |
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| 22:04.21 | cizzi | so if file a has an extra word than file b just output that word nothing else |
| 22:04.21 | chops | cizzi: What format do you want the actual differences in? :-) |
| 22:04.29 | cizzi | ascii |
| 22:04.31 | cizzi | just plain etxt |
| 22:04.32 | cizzi | text |
| 22:04.32 | slump | anyone know what's this? /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory |
| 22:04.41 | chops | cizzi: What if file b has an extra word than file a? |
| 22:04.53 | cizzi | only file b will have extra stuff |
| 22:04.54 | cizzi | in all cases |
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| 22:05.20 | cizzi | my goal is to get the diff and increment my database |
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| 22:06.01 | slump | i'm trying to compile something on a debian woody with some sarge packages +_+ |
| 22:06.14 | slump | don't know what guy have done this. |
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| 22:06.15 | slump | hehehe |
| 22:06.17 | cizzi | right now diff adds stuff like 15,16c17,18 |
| 22:06.22 | slump | s/have/has |
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| 22:07.57 | chops | cizzi: diff -u a b | grep '^\+' | sed 's/^\+//' |
| 22:08.00 | chops | cizzi: Maybe :-) |
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| 22:08.04 | cizzi | thanks |
| 22:08.06 | chops | cizzi: Anyway, gtg, gl |
| 22:08.35 | cizzi | later |
| 22:08.48 | Assid | stew: you still around? |
| 22:09.09 | Assid | after make; make modules_install; make bzImage how do i make the initrd file ? |
| 22:09.14 | Assid | thats causing some issues for me |
| 22:09.24 | Assid | i tried mkinitramfs -o filename |
| 22:09.32 | Assid | but i dont think its working |
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| 22:10.22 | stew | Assid: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 22:10.49 | stew | Assid: it woudl be recommended to compile with make-kpkg and use the --initrd parameter |
| 22:11.12 | stew | Assid: what is the actual mkinitramfs command you are running and are you getting an error? |
| 22:11.40 | Assid | well id dint get any error while running it .. |
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| 22:11.54 | stew | Assid: what exact command did you run? |
| 22:12.30 | Assid | mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd-img-2.6.18 |
| 22:12.53 | stew | Assid: what kernel were you running when you ran that? |
| 22:13.09 | Assid | -amd64 |
| 22:13.15 | stew | Assid: the debian kernel? |
| 22:13.19 | Assid | yes |
| 22:13.31 | Assid | but i was in the source directory |
| 22:13.51 | stew | Assid: you need to specify the kernel version to mkinitramfs, it defaults to the current running kernel, but you were trying to build an initrd for a different kernel |
| 22:14.12 | stew | Assid: and the kernel version should match the directory name in /lib/modules which contains that kernel's modules |
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| 22:15.27 | chuck | how do i enable quotas? |
| 22:15.37 | chuck | i tried installing quota and quotatool, but i get this error: |
| 22:15.42 | Assid | make-kpkg --initrd 2.6.18 that doesnt work |
| 22:15.43 | chuck | (when i try to use quotatool) |
| 22:15.48 | xlotlu | does reportbug work for packages outside the official repo? i.e. ... will it send an e-mail to the maintainer? |
| 22:15.56 | chuck | quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such process |
| 22:15.57 | ericpersson | chuck: just fill up the hard drive until you got just enough space.. ;) |
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| 22:18.58 | chuck | no one knows? |
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| 22:19.16 | ericpersson | chuck: never tried it.. sorry for the bad joke.. :) |
| 22:19.35 | cusco | chuck: I installed quotas allright but I followed some tutorial |
| 22:19.41 | redspike | Hi all, i have alway calc my swap at all server * 1.5 RAM but now i have a server with 14G ram, humm how mutch swap should i give it? |
| 22:19.51 | chuck | yeah all the tutorials i saw needed recompiling the kernel :-[[ |
| 22:20.16 | cusco | chuck: not the one I followed |
| 22:20.21 | chuck | really? |
| 22:20.25 | cusco | yes |
| 22:20.26 | Assid | stew: pm ok? |
| 22:20.26 | chuck | i'll keep looking for one then |
| 22:21.20 | pumpkin | is flashplugin-nonfree still broekn in etch or is the dpkg-factoid outdated ? |
| 22:21.33 | ericpersson | chuck: sometimes replacing linux with debian in googling brings up lots of better info.. |
| 22:21.42 | cusco | chuck: google returned me this - www.debian-administration.org/articles/47 -- I previously followed that site's tuturials sucessfully |
| 22:22.21 | N0S3 | some package for edition of pdf ? |
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| 22:26.23 | acemi | chuck: grep -i quota /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 22:26.42 | acemi | chuck: is there quota support in your kernel |
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| 22:30.28 | th1 | hi, in fact this question is for Kubuntu but none there seemed to be able to help, I wonder if anyone here can: can anyone help on how to connect to WLAN (with WPA-PSK) at boot time instead of after I log in to KDE and KNetworkManager connects me? |
| 22:30.58 | azeem | th1: ask #kubuntu, please |
| 22:31.06 | th1 | I did |
| 22:31.07 | azeem | th1: network setup is different on Debian |
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| 22:31.25 | azeem | th1: then wait a couple of hours and ask later and/or ask on some mailing list or webforum |
| 22:31.26 | th1 | ok.. is there any way in Debian to do what I want? Might just override it with that.. |
| 22:32.24 | azeem | th1: you shouldn't mix recipes from one distro for another |
| 22:32.33 | azeem | who knows what else you break |
| 22:32.57 | th1 | well, the networking is fairly similar and I'm not a newbie so I'll take the chance, the only thing is that I don't know much about WPA.. if it was WEP I'd just set it in interfaces manually |
| 22:33.13 | th1 | but apparently for WPA it is more complicated with a daemon needed etc. |
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| 22:35.02 | cafuego | wpasupplicant, yes. |
| 22:35.07 | cafuego | Still not very hard though |
| 22:35.25 | th1 | in the man page for wpa_supplicant it is noted that it's "now integrated in ifupdown" but I can't find any info on how to set it in interfaces |
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| 22:36.18 | Assid | http://assid.pastebin.com/d77295fa5 |
| 22:36.24 | Assid | im trying to compile from source |
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| 22:37.07 | vinvin | how can I know if my motherboard supports fan speed changing ? |
| 22:37.17 | boulbul | hi, I want to install any debian like version on a palm tungsten t3... do you know if there is any one out there , thanks for the help |
| 22:37.21 | justin | th1: wpa-foo bar |
| 22:37.33 | kgoetz | th1: its still OT in debian. |
| 22:37.49 | kgoetz | Assid: tell us what you trying to compile, and how its not working. people wont check random pastebins for fun |
| 22:38.39 | Tramp | th1: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian |
| 22:39.10 | Assid | its the kernel - compiling from sourcr |
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| 22:39.35 | pickcoder | th1: I don't recommend what you're attempting to do if you live in KDE with kwifi running |
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| 22:41.00 | Tramp | th1: either put all options in /etc/network/interfaces or, as I did it, use a config-file for wpasupplicant and use "wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf" in interfaces. |
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| 22:42.16 | Ronin | Assid: why arent you using a stock debian kernel? |
| 22:42.35 | Assid | Ronin: src usage of asterisk / zaptel is forcing me to recmpile |
| 22:42.41 | Assid | i need 1000hz |
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| 22:42.46 | Assid | defalt is 250hz |
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| 22:43.21 | th1 | pickcoder and Tramp thanks :) I'll put it in interfaces for now and when I have time I'll set up wpa_supplicant.conf properly, and no longer use kwifi/knetworkmanager :) |
| 22:43.40 | UltraNav | Acutally Ubuntu, but I hope there are some experts here: I can use python for cgi script but not bash - how can I fix this ? |
| 22:43.49 | kgoetz | UltraNav: ask #ubuntu |
| 22:44.09 | UltraNav | kgoetz: thanks for the hint |
| 22:44.27 | Tramp | th1: note that the advantage of a config-file is, that you can start/debug wpa_supplicant manually - but ymmv. |
| 22:44.30 | th1 | UltraNav, you also want to think 100 times before you use a bash cgi script, its insecure as hell |
| 22:44.46 | th1 | Tramp, yes I'll try it if it doesn't work straight away with interfaces :) |
| 22:44.47 | stew | th1: Tramp: please take it to #ubuntu or #kubuntu |
| 22:44.58 | th1 | stew, this is identical to debian |
| 22:45.06 | stew | th1: it's off-topic |
| 22:45.18 | Tramp | stew: I'm talking about, how to configure wpa_supplicant in Debian - how is that offtopic please? |
| 22:45.19 | th1 | it'd apply to debian as well.. which I also use |
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| 22:45.38 | stew | Tramp: becuase th1 is a kubuntu user not a debian user |
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| 22:46.05 | stew | th1: the topic in this channel is not up for negotiation, sorry we are unable to help you |
| 22:46.10 | th1 | stew, I use more debian systems than I do (k)ubuntu |
| 22:46.21 | th1 | stew what are you some militant from outer space? |
| 22:46.28 | UltraNav | pffffffffft... only l33t hax0rs here... |
| 22:46.33 | stew | th1: i don't care, please drop it. go to #kubuntu for help with kubuntu |
| 22:46.46 | th1 | stew or you drop it, im just going to ignore you now |
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| 22:47.47 | kgoetz | :) |
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| 22:52.17 | jelly | stew: in private msg, I suppose? |
| 22:52.22 | stew | yes |
| 22:52.24 | flami | Hi, I want to get my remote working with lirc . I have this : http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/pinnacle_systems/PCTV_USB_STICK remote control , what driver do i need to choose in the configuration ? |
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| 22:53.37 | Ronin | everyone raise thier hand if they didnt see that kick coming, heh |
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| 22:55.52 | samo | hi again, i am trying to setup my nvidia driver following the instructions here : http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers, when i restarted Xorg, i got a black screen, how can i check my setup and find out what i messed up ? |
| 22:56.09 | kgoetz | samo: look in the xorg log file |
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| 23:00.49 | samo | kgoetz, i cant find the error message there, how can i know if the nvidia module is correctly installed ? |
| 23:01.10 | azeem | samo: lsmod |
| 23:01.45 | samo | azeem, thanks, nvidia is in the list |
| 23:01.52 | engla | anyone know how to reverse fn key behavior? It was default to F1..F12 keys when I first setup debian (testing) and now suddenly it defaults to "fn on", so special keys are active by default and fn-F1 sends the F1 keycode.. I didn't do any *large* updates of my system |
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| 23:04.57 | alephant | Hi all |
| 23:05.06 | alephant | How can I view the log of package update/installation? |
| 23:05.13 | alephant | does such a thing exist? |
| 23:05.26 | alephant | oh wow, I'm a dummy |
| 23:05.28 | alephant | /var/log/dpkg |
| 23:05.31 | azeem | indeed |
| 23:05.35 | magyar | Hi, using lenny and kvm/qemu, I cant get the host to access the internet with "usermode" tcp settings. Was able to a few weeks ago. Can anyone on Lenny verufy? |
| 23:05.36 | azeem | it's pretty verbose though |
| 23:05.40 | magyar | verify? |
| 23:05.51 | azeem | magyar: you mean the guest? |
| 23:06.11 | magyar | azeem, yes |
| 23:06.25 | azeem | magyar: what does /sbin/ifconfig eth0 say in the guest? |
| 23:07.11 | magyar | azeem, ipconfig (windows) IP address: 10.0.2.15 Gateway: 10.0.2.2 DNS: 10.0.2.3 |
| 23:07.21 | azeem | sounds fine |
| 23:07.29 | azeem | can you ping 10.0.2.2 ? |
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| 23:09.35 | magyar | azeem, yes |
| 23:09.56 | azeem | magyar: and "wget www.debian.org"? |
| 23:10.53 | magyar | azeem; nope |
| 23:11.17 | azeem | magyar: does "ping www.debian.org" show an IP? |
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| 23:12.35 | magyar | azeem, nada, its like DNS or ping to an external is not working at all even by ip |
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| 23:12.54 | azeem | magyar: well, ping is supposed to not work in QEMU |
| 23:13.01 | azeem | DNS lookups should work though |
| 23:13.10 | azeem | magyar: so maybe the host's DNS resolver is bad? |
| 23:13.43 | magyar | azeem, how do i fix that? |
| 23:13.50 | azeem | magyar: dunno |
| 23:14.02 | azeem | magyar: what's in the host's /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 23:14.30 | FelipeSouza | What kernel configurations are needed to iptables work? I marked iptables support (IP_NF_IPTABLES) as "y", but the iptables program says that the kernel hasn't support for it. I'm using debian sid |
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| 23:20.46 | magyar | azeem, nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
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| 23:21.33 | azeem | magyar: and "host www.debian.org" works fine on the host? |
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| 23:23.16 | magyar | azeem, www.debian.org has address 194.109.137.218 |
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| 23:27.23 | azeem | magyar: well, no idea, sorry |
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| 23:28.08 | skyy1 | hi |
| 23:28.22 | skyy1 | i i have a problem with debian.. |
| 23:28.40 | skyy1 | with the nvidia driver |
| 23:28.53 | Cripps | hello. I am running lenny on an Acer Travelmate 5610, x86, kernel 2.6.22-2 . I am trying to get my bluetooth up so that I can play with my iPaq (and iPaq linux) ... the bluetooth mod is listed in lsmod, and the bluetooth device appears to be initialized (output of dmesg|grep Bluetooth) ... it's just that my laptop's bluetooth is neither sending nor receiving. Will somebody please help me to get it running? |
| 23:29.18 | Ronin | skyy1: more information please |
| 23:29.32 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: what's the problem? |
| 23:30.34 | skyy1 | Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel |
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| 23:31.23 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: what debian are you running? what kernel version? are trying to compile it from nvidia installer or from debian packages? |
| 23:31.30 | FelipeSouza | s/are/are you |
| 23:31.30 | Ronin | skyy1: so install the kernel source |
| 23:31.46 | screamingbytes | skyy1: did u look in /usr/src/? |
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| 23:32.04 | skyy1 | i'm new for debian.. |
| 23:32.20 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r` |
| 23:32.25 | FelipeSouza | in a terminal |
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| 23:32.33 | screamingbytes | skyy1: sometimes there is no linux link pointing to the source and scrips for apps look for /usr/src/linux not /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18 |
| 23:32.40 | skyy1 | ok.. |
| 23:32.58 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: what debian are you running? what kernel version? are trying to compile it from nvidia installer or from debian packages? |
| 23:33.14 | stew | screamingbytes: apps that are expecting source to be in /usr/src/linux should be fixed |
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| 23:33.26 | illbiteyou | bleh i'm looking for a thing to play audio files |
| 23:33.35 | illbiteyou | i went to the debian website and found something called decibel-audio-player |
| 23:33.37 | screamingbytes | in what way stew? |
| 23:33.42 | illbiteyou | but i apt-gettted it and it doesn't work |
| 23:33.45 | screamingbytes | isn't that the standard? |
| 23:33.48 | illbiteyou | can't find it. |
| 23:33.49 | stew | screamingbytes: if you know of any, please point their authors to the README in the linux source that specifically says not to make a /usr/src/linux symlink |
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| 23:34.20 | stew | screamingbytes: no that is specifically deprecated, /lib/modules/$version/source is the correct location |
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| 23:35.00 | screamingbytes | stew: im not a developer, mostly just a long time user, and thats the way ive always seen it done, for my etification what should be there instead? should the dir name be changed |
| 23:35.04 | Agiofws | hi |
| 23:35.05 | skyy1 | i do "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18-5-686" |
| 23:35.05 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: sox for console playing, xmms for X playing, bmp for gtk playing, and many others |
| 23:35.08 | Agiofws | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.23.12' |
| 23:35.08 | Agiofws | make: ctags: Command not found |
| 23:35.13 | stew | screamingbytes: nothing should be there |
| 23:35.19 | Agiofws | what do i need to apt-get ? |
| 23:35.20 | skyy1 | but can't find linux-source-2.6.18-5-686 |
| 23:35.33 | Agiofws | ? |
| 23:35.38 | stew | skyy1: linux-source-2.6.18 |
| 23:35.45 | FelipeSouza | Agiofws: ctags |
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| 23:36.03 | illbiteyou | felipesouza, which one do i use? i think ihave a gnome thingy |
| 23:36.20 | screamingbytes | stew: apps are supposed to use some intelligence now to figure it out? |
| 23:36.21 | FelipeSouza | Agiofws: but i compiled the linux here, and it wasn't necessary |
| 23:36.39 | screamingbytes | stew: like making use of uname and parseing it |
| 23:36.58 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: the one of your choice, i use rhythmbox, but there're bmp, xmms, use the one that you like |
| 23:37.23 | stew | screamingbytes: yes, they should use "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/source" as the location for the source of the running kernel or "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build" as the location of the headers |
| 23:37.27 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: try sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18 |
| 23:37.44 | skyy1 | i do and this do.. |
| 23:37.47 | screamingbytes | that is beautiful |
| 23:37.48 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: rhythmbox comes with gnome by default |
| 23:37.52 | screamingbytes | finally :) |
| 23:38.21 | Cripps | So, I have a bluetooth device, I just don't know how to turn on/off the sending/transmitting functions of the device ... would somebody mind giving me a hand figuring this out? (google had some information for me, but not enough to get me running, and /msg dpkg bluetooth didn't yeild helpful results either). |
| 23:38.21 | skyy1 | i try "sh NVIDIA-linux.........run" |
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| 23:38.44 | illbiteyou | kek.. nvidia drivers and debian are incompatible.. i learned the hard way |
| 23:38.53 | illbiteyou | and everyone blames nvidia for being closed source |
| 23:38.56 | skyy1 | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... |
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| 23:39.02 | Cripps | illbiteyou, It's all about the intel cards ;) |
| 23:39.08 | sussudio | Cripps: unplug it? |
| 23:39.15 | Cripps | sussudio, it's onboard. |
| 23:39.20 | biopyte | hi folks, i need to install a http-server for internal use, not meant for internet connections. can you recommend a lightweight and secure one? there are so many ... mini-httpd, lighttpd ... |
| 23:39.24 | sussudio | Cripps: use a hammer. |
| 23:39.33 | illbiteyou | but.. nividia video cards are better than the ones that intel doesn't make :/ |
| 23:39.39 | Cripps | I just bought this lappy a few months ago ... |
| 23:39.43 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: you can use the debian nvidia packages: 1) sh NVIDIA... --uninstall 2) sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-4-686 nvidia-glx nvidia-settings |
| 23:39.56 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: very easier |
| 23:39.59 | skyy1 | ok i try.. |
| 23:40.04 | work | algum brasileiro pode me ajudar |
| 23:40.07 | Cripps | besides bluetooth and the SD card reader, everything on it works PERFECTLY under linux ^_^ |
| 23:40.07 | sussudio | Cripps: can't you just unload the module? |
| 23:40.11 | sussudio | !br |
| 23:40.11 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:40.28 | work | uhauhauh |
| 23:40.30 | work | putz |
| 23:40.37 | Cripps | ERROR: Module bluetooth is in use by hidp,rfcomm,l2cap ... hm. |
| 23:40.37 | FelipeSouza | work: i can, but go to #debian-br |
| 23:40.38 | sussudio | !texugo work |
| 23:40.38 | dpkg | work: texugo texugo texugo texugo texugo cogumelo cogumelo texugo texugo texugo texugo texugo texugo serpeeente oooh serpeenteeeee! |
| 23:41.04 | illbiteyou | where does everything install to when you use apt-get? |
| 23:41.07 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: debian and nvidia cards incompatible? here works 100% |
| 23:41.19 | sussudio | illbiteyou: your harddisk? |
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| 23:41.25 | stew | illbiteyou: "dpkg -L packagename" will tell you |
| 23:41.26 | illbiteyou | a while back i tried to install 7100 gs drivers |
| 23:41.36 | Yanomami | how can i decompress a .tar.bz2 file |
| 23:41.37 | illbiteyou | and had to do this funny kernel update thing |
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| 23:41.50 | illbiteyou | and it ended up not working and everyone i asked blamed nvidia for not making it open source. |
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| 23:42.14 | illbiteyou | as the source of my problems :/ |
| 23:42.15 | work | Could not fetch modules/03modlist.data.gz |
| 23:42.15 | work | Going to write /home/denise/.cpan/Metadata |
| 23:42.15 | work | Warning: Cannot install Request.pm, don't know what it is. |
| 23:42.16 | work | Try the command |
| 23:42.16 | work | i /Request.pm/ |
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| 23:42.23 | work | desculpa |
| 23:42.26 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: did you try nvidia installer? try debian packages |
| 23:42.28 | pickcoder | I have nv and ati cards, but I run them in console mode |
| 23:42.39 | pickcoder | well.. 1 or two have a desktop |
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| 23:43.33 | FelipeSouza | work: i'm brazilian, go to #debian-br, and then i can help you |
| 23:43.43 | work | [FelipeSouza]: ok |
| 23:43.55 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: the apt-get is installing ok? |
| 23:44.03 | pickcoder | looks like a b0rked perl install |
| 23:44.07 | Yanomami | ? |
| 23:44.11 | pickcoder | I had that problem a few days ago |
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| 23:44.21 | illbiteyou | felipeSouza, i tried the nvidia installer sh nividainstallername.sh and it didn't wokr |
| 23:44.27 | illbiteyou | i tried the "Debian way" that didn't work |
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| 23:44.45 | skyy1 | with sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-4-686 |
| 23:44.45 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: what happened when you tried the debian way? |
| 23:44.56 | illbiteyou | i read this fucking 5 + page "debian way" wiki |
| 23:44.59 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: yeah |
| 23:45.02 | skyy1 | dont'find nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-4-686 |
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| 23:45.09 | illbiteyou | and all it did was make me angry. |
| 23:45.23 | illbiteyou | cuz following the directions didn't do anything useful |
| 23:45.45 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.18" and then press [TAB][TAB] (yes, 2 times) |
| 23:46.01 | Yanomami | answer: tar -xvjf pidgin-2.3.1.tar.bz2 |
| 23:46.23 | illbiteyou | felipesouza, where would this rhythmbox be installed on my file system? |
| 23:46.59 | skyy1 | don't find |
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| 23:47.00 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: /usr/bin/rhythmbox |
| 23:47.08 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: if it isn't, sudo apt-get install rhythmbox |
| 23:47.35 | Asmooh | C:\programm files\itunes? :P |
| 23:47.39 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: please, tell-me the result of: cat cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 23:48.03 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: ops, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:48.19 | skyy1 | 4.0 |
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| 23:49.19 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: and: cat /proc/cpuinfo | head -n 3 | tail -n 1 |
| 23:49.28 | acemi | skyy1: apt-cache search nvidia-kernel |
| 23:50.07 | skyy1 | cpu family :6 |
| 23:50.18 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-5-686 |
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| 23:50.57 | newb | hi |
| 23:51.05 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 23:51.24 | Cripps | so, I have a bluetooth device, it gets initialized, using the acerhk approach doesn't work, and "hcitool dev" returns no devices. Does anybody have any other ideas for my bluetooth endeavor? |
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| 23:52.19 | newb | how do i add the system tray area to the panel(KDE), i deleted it by accident :( |
| 23:52.49 | Cripps | newb, right click and select "Add Applet to panel" |
| 23:52.57 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: if the last command didn't work, please try: apt-cache search nvidia-kernel |
| 23:53.27 | Cripps | newb, there *should* be a "system tray" applet in there. |
| 23:53.29 | newb | yes, and the name of the applet? I couldn't locate it there |
| 23:53.42 | newb | ah ok found it |
| 23:53.47 | luas | [20:51:10] -ChanServ- An access level of [10] is required for [UNBAN] on ##debian-br |
| 23:53.49 | luas | :( |
| 23:53.54 | newb | why it is there now Oo |
| 23:54.05 | luas | algum brasileiro |
| 23:54.08 | luas | pode me ajudar |
| 23:54.27 | newb | i better lock the panel now.. |
| 23:54.34 | FelipeSouza | !br |
| 23:54.34 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:55.20 | FelipeSouza | luas: /j #debian-br2 |
| 23:55.32 | cusco | 2? |
| 23:55.41 | skyy1 | apt-cache search nvidia-kernel => nvidia-kernel-common |
| 23:55.49 | cusco | ah |
| 23:55.49 | skyy1 | apt-get nvidia-kernel-common |
| 23:55.56 | cusco | luas: tenta #debian-pt |
| 23:56.03 | FelipeSouza | cusco: doesn't exist ^^ |
| 23:56.05 | skyy1 | apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common |
| 23:56.19 | newb | ah, you have to reopen the 'Add Applet' window, too recover it in the list |
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| 23:56.41 | skyy1 | it's already installed and updated |
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| 23:56.59 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: it should show more packages than nvidia-kernel-common, please, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood |
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| 23:57.28 | Cripps | offhand, does anybody have any ideas why my bluetooth gets initialized on boot, but "hcitool dev" says there's no bluetooth devices, and I can't seem to find any way to turn on the freaking transmitter? |
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| 23:59.06 | FelipeSouza | skyy1: you need to include "contrib non-free" after the main in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:59.40 | pumpkin | i installed my nvidia-drivers (fresh install with kernel from lenny) with nvidia_post_etch. X starts but shows a black screen. ctrl-atl-F1 does not change that. Any ideas what to check ? |