| 00:00.38 | illbiteyou | kakaka you screwed up your settings via that xorg configuration thing huh? |
| 00:00.48 | illbiteyou | that happened to me while i was doing nvidia drivers |
| 00:01.01 | illbiteyou | and the problem apparently was "nvidia isn't open source" |
| 00:01.11 | illbiteyou | you won't get it solved here. change everything back to normal |
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| 00:02.08 | pumpkin | switching the driver from nvidia to vesa makesto work again. I don't think the settings are that wrong. |
| 00:03.04 | cusco | pumpkin: check Xorg.log ? |
| 00:03.09 | cusco | or x.log or somethin |
| 00:03.13 | cusco | in /var/log |
| 00:03.21 | pumpkin | shows a normal startup w/o problems. |
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| 00:03.29 | cusco | pumpkin: also try nvidia driver from nvidia website, thats what worked for me |
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| 00:04.43 | pumpkin | i'm using a VGA-CRT connected via DVI-I -> VGA adapter. Can that be the problem ? |
| 00:04.53 | cusco | nope |
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| 00:05.51 | FelipeSouza | pumpkin: paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please |
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| 00:06.27 | illbiteyou | hm find rhythmbox command shows "no such file or directory" |
| 00:06.40 | illbiteyou | although it's where felipesouza said it was |
| 00:06.49 | illbiteyou | am i using the find command wrong.. |
| 00:08.09 | pumpkin | FelipeSouza: http://pastebin.ca/845948 |
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| 00:09.54 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: sudo apt-get install rhythmbox |
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| 00:11.25 | FelipeSouza | pumpkin: please also paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 00:11.31 | patagon | buenas |
| 00:11.42 | illbiteyou | ok, i just use the whereis command, it's so much better |
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| 00:12.25 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: here the nvidia driver works perfectly, open-source or not |
| 00:12.48 | pumpkin | FelipeSouza: http://pastebin.ca/845953 |
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| 00:14.13 | illbiteyou | felipesouza, if u must know i followed this wiki http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers to attempt to install my 7100gs |
| 00:14.22 | illbiteyou | and it just broke xwindows |
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| 00:16.03 | FelipeSouza | pumpkin: comment the line "Load  "dri"" and the last 3 lines |
| 00:18.05 | illbiteyou | does rhythmbox play .midi files? |
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| 00:19.39 | pumpkin | FelipeSouza, testing back in 5 min ... |
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| 00:24.18 | pumpkin | FelipeSouza: same result. black screen, no way to switch to a console. But rebooting with ctrl-alt-del works, it is not crashed. |
| 00:24.18 | illbiteyou | apparently this rhythmbox does NOT play midi files. "error opening file without setting log. This is a bug in rhythmbox" |
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| 00:26.00 | dvs | @wb |
| 00:26.01 | ravenbird | thanks, dvs. It's good to be back. |
| 00:26.13 | FelipeSouza | pumpkin: no idea, try use debian way or nvidia installer, or another driver version... |
| 00:26.32 | illbiteyou | pumpkin, give up now, i was going through the same shit you were |
| 00:26.43 | pumpkin | FelipeSouza: trying the current one from nvidia.com. |
| 00:26.52 | pumpkin | illbiteyou, what is your end result ? |
| 00:27.03 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: sudo apt-get install playmidi |
| 00:27.11 | illbiteyou | forget about installing nvidia drivers. |
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| 00:27.47 | Julia24 | how can i search a package whit apt-get |
| 00:27.52 | illbiteyou | apt-cache search |
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| 00:28.01 | pumpkin | illbiteyou, i need cuda on this server. It'snot about fun and 3D, it is about using the GPU as coprocessor. |
| 00:28.58 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: the nvidia driver didn't worked for you, but works with 99,999% of peoples, and you help people to give up |
| 00:29.00 | Julia24 | illbiteyou, thanks :) |
| 00:29.13 | Julia24 | i want to install kde-lite |
| 00:29.20 | Julia24 | exist in debian? |
| 00:29.31 | illbiteyou | felipesouza, i know that 99.999% "fact" is made up :/ |
| 00:30.28 | OlaX | 73.213% of _all_ statistics are made up . . . on the spot. :) |
| 00:30.54 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: did you try the nvidia installer? debian way? another driver version? |
| 00:30.57 | illbiteyou | i'm not a dumbass.. but i would be if I were to spend another week in addition to the 5 straight days of trying to get nvidia drivers to install and work on my computer.. |
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| 00:31.35 | illbiteyou | i d/led the nvidia installer, no go. I tried debian way, no go. |
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| 00:32.57 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: if you continue trying you will get it |
| 00:33.14 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: i was with a problem with nvidia agp, but already fixed that |
| 00:33.19 | illbiteyou | or get angry and go kill some open source proponents.. |
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| 00:33.48 | illbiteyou | agp is really old... what about pci? |
| 00:33.50 | azeem | illbiteyou: why don't you go kill some nvidia fanboys instead? |
| 00:33.58 | illbiteyou | and then what about sli |
| 00:33.59 | azeem | agp > pci |
| 00:34.13 | pumpkin | the nvidia driver downloaded from www.nvidia.com worked first go and got the fan-control right. |
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| 00:34.36 | stevie | greetings |
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| 00:34.59 | FelipeSouza | pumpkin: nice |
| 00:35.28 | illbiteyou | azeem, i meant pci express, not regular pci |
| 00:35.35 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: agp is faster than pci |
| 00:35.43 | azeem | "what you see is what I mean" |
| 00:36.00 | illbiteyou | wut about pcie ? |
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| 00:37.25 | Stevie | I just did a fresh install of lenny, and my X fonts are all microscopic |
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| 00:38.05 | Stevie | okay, now this is weird |
| 00:38.19 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: my agp is faster than my pci, and i was just using an example |
| 00:38.34 | dvs | Stevie: fresh install from where? |
| 00:38.41 | FelipeSouza | illbiteyou: if you gived up too early, no problems, but don't encourage the users to |
| 00:38.43 | Stevie | netinst |
| 00:38.46 | phogg | illbiteyou: You are not a dumbass but you could not get the nvidia drivers to work? Then you must be in miles over your head! |
| 00:38.49 | dvs | that is weird |
| 00:38.57 | Stevie | okay it gets weirder |
| 00:39.01 | Stevie | gdm and kdm are both affected |
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| 00:39.14 | Stevie | when I logged in via gdm, my gnome desktop was also affected |
| 00:39.21 | Stevie | but when I logged in via kdm, everything looked good |
| 00:41.19 | patagon | que es el mcs? |
| 00:41.27 | patagon | mcs >= 0.1 |
| 00:41.28 | patagon | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.32 | patagon | no me va la web esa |
| 00:41.35 | azeem | !es |
| 00:41.36 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:41.41 | patagon | alguien me puede decir deque va el mcs? |
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| 00:41.55 | patagon | sorry |
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| 00:43.18 | Tweak1029 | hello |
| 00:43.39 | Tweak1029 | can anybody here tell me why my ethernet card is being labeled as eth1, when it is the only ethernet card in my machine? |
| 00:44.33 | Stevie | tweak1029: what does 'dmesg | grep eth0' kick out? |
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| 00:45.40 | Tweak1029 | eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0x1d800, 00:50:8d:50:e5:68, IRQ 185. |
| 00:45.41 | Tweak1029 | eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7869 advertising 01e1 Link 45e1. |
| 00:45.59 | illbiteyou | phogg, i'm not gonna code my installation. the fact of the matter is that nvidia drivers aren't supported. |
| 00:46.28 | phogg | illbiteyou: I'm thrilled. |
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| 00:46.51 | illbiteyou | especially not for 64 bit |
| 00:46.59 | karsten | Tweak1029: Looks like you've got an eth0. |
| 00:47.01 | Megadork | How do I compile a C program in bash |
| 00:47.12 | engla | I need to reverse the function of my fn key on my laptop for the F1..F12 keys. where is this setting set? this changed "by itself" just a week ago |
| 00:47.28 | Tweak1029 | karsten: network-admin must be incorrectly labeling it then, it says i have eth1 but no eth0 |
| 00:48.06 | Stevie | hey dvs |
| 00:48.26 | karsten | Tweak1029: It's not network-admin, IIUC, it's udev. What's lspci tell you? |
| 00:48.35 | karsten | Megadork: man cc |
| 00:48.36 | Megadork | How do I compile a C program in bash, really -.- |
| 00:48.40 | Megadork | klol |
| 00:48.52 | Megadork | I'll turn on my laptop |
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| 00:49.02 | illbiteyou | gcc file.c ? |
| 00:49.10 | Megadork | ok? |
| 00:49.13 | Megadork | that sounds good too |
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| 00:49.24 | karsten | Megadork: What's the C file? Is this something you've written or source you've aquired? |
| 00:49.38 | illbiteyou | g++ if you're using c ++ |
| 00:49.44 | karsten | Megadork: Read the README in the second case. Read your class notes in the first. |
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| 00:50.06 | Megadork | 'class notes'? |
| 00:50.08 | Megadork | what class? |
| 00:50.22 | Megadork | I wish my school had a C programming class, then i could learn it |
| 00:50.24 | cafuego | Megadork: if you only have the one .c file, run 'make foo' if the file os foo.c |
| 00:50.52 | Megadork | I'll just use gcc, I guess |
| 00:51.53 | cahewson | My trivial repository is here: /home/charles/my-deb-repository/binary and contains 4 .deb files and Packages.gz created with dpkg-scanpackages. |
| 00:51.55 | cahewson | My sources.list has: deb file:/home/charles/my-deb-repository/ ./ and I get this error: Err file: ./ Packages |
| 00:51.56 | cahewson | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.58 | cahewson | Followed by several: W: Couldn't stat source package list file: ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_home_charles_my-deb-repository_._Packages) - stat |
| 00:51.59 | cahewson | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.01 | cahewson | What is wronge with sources.list statement? |
| 00:52.04 | simonrvn | this is a sorta embarrassing question... i need to quiet STDOUT but i want STDERR to be normal, in a crontab, so i get error output, and not just regular stuff |
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| 00:52.06 | karsten | Megadork: http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ |
| 00:52.12 | simonrvn | !tell cahewson -about paste |
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| 00:55.12 | simonrvn | ...so how would i do this? like: "> /dev/null" <-- that? |
| 00:55.50 | Tweak1029 | karsten: lspci gives me this line that i think is relevant: 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) |
| 00:55.52 | karsten | simonrvn: <cmd> 2>&1 1>/dev/null |
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| 00:56.14 | illbiteyou | i guess i'll switch over to ubuntu.. |
| 00:56.18 | simonrvn | karsten: ah ok |
| 00:56.28 | simonrvn | karsten: thanks bro |
| 00:56.29 | illbiteyou | i just d/led 3 different players that don't even play a .mid file |
| 00:57.00 | Tweak1029 | illbiteyou: try amarok or kaffeine, if they don't play try getting codecs |
| 00:57.02 | karsten | simonrvn: The way the shell works: 2 redirects to FD 1, 1 redirects to /dev/null. If you want both in the same place, you redirect stdout *first*. |
| 00:57.11 | karsten | simonrvn: <cmd> 1>/dev/null 2>&1 |
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| 00:57.29 | karsten | simonrvn: There's a reason behind that but I never quite grok it. |
| 00:57.38 | simonrvn | i knew, i had to do something like that, but i wasn't sure if i needed to include the 2>&1 or not |
| 00:57.41 | Stevie | "foo > /dev/null 2>&1" redirects both stdout and stderr to /dev/null |
| 00:57.57 | Stevie | "foo >/dev/null" redirects stdout and leaves stderr |
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| 00:58.22 | Stevie | "foo 2>&1 >/dev/null" redirects stdout to bitbucket and stderr to what stdout *would* have normally been |
| 00:58.24 | Nyle | rahul: ping |
| 00:58.34 | Hal9000 | how do i know if i am running debian 4.0 32 or 64 bit? |
| 00:58.37 | karsten | Stevie: .. but stderr goes to... stderr, which usually *isn't* picked up by cronjobs, IIRC. |
| 00:58.54 | Nyle | Hal9000: use uname to see which kernel |
| 00:58.56 | karsten | Stevie: Hence the: <cmd> 2>&1 1>/dev/null trick. |
| 00:59.02 | Stevie | aye. |
| 01:00.01 | Stevie | hal9k: uname -m |
| 01:00.36 | simonrvn | thank you all |
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| 01:00.46 | Nyle | simonrvn: hi |
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| 01:00.50 | Stevie | if it says 'i686' or 'i386' it's 32-bit, if it says 'x86_64' you're 64-bit, if it says 'ppc' you're 64-bit and ready to kick lots of ass |
| 01:01.04 | Nyle | !ppc |
| 01:01.04 | dpkg | ppc is, like, is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
| 01:01.13 | Nyle | pure ass kickery |
| 01:01.18 | Stevie | absolutely |
| 01:01.45 | Stevie | steel-toed ass kickery |
| 01:02.01 | Nyle | doc martins? |
| 01:02.12 | Hal9000 | Linux ****.net 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 24 18:32:57 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux <- hm... odd... why does an amd64 kernel on debian 4.0 32 bit work as x86_64? |
| 01:02.12 | Stevie | could be? |
| 01:02.13 | Nyle | apostrophe |
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| 01:02.28 | Stevie | although anything is better than x86 |
| 01:02.31 | Nyle | Hal9000: well |
| 01:02.33 | Hal9000 | this fools some scripts making them believe i run debian 64 bit |
| 01:03.03 | Nyle | amd64 is the NAME of the 64 bit port afaik, however 64bit also is for itanium, ia64 |
| 01:03.12 | Nyle | amd64/em64t == same thing |
| 01:03.29 | Nyle | you DO run a 64bit kernel |
| 01:03.35 | Stevie | x86_64 is the common name for "64-bit x86" |
| 01:03.46 | Stevie | debian calls it "amd64" cuz AMD came out with it first |
| 01:04.06 | Nyle | it works on intel w/ EMT64 an on any amd cpu |
| 01:04.06 | Hal9000 | i self compiled a kernel for an opteron and it runs as i686, but the debian amd64 packaage from the 32 bit repo runs 64 bit? odd |
| 01:04.10 | Nyle | well, not any |
| 01:04.12 | Nyle | but you know |
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| 01:04.27 | Stevie | "32 bit repo"? |
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| 01:05.02 | Hal9000 | Stevie: i meant distro |
| 01:05.10 | redwyrm | hi. if I wanted to make my own Debian live CD (with my own choice in software and drivers), what would I do? is there a howto about this? |
| 01:05.19 | Nyle | !live |
| 01:05.19 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides prebuilt Debian live system images and allows to create your own. http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ and #debian-live, or http://live.debian.net/live-webhelper/ |
| 01:05.28 | redwyrm | Nyle, thanks |
| 01:05.32 | Nyle | sure |
| 01:05.36 | Tweak1029 | http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7964/networkconfigeth0bser8.png |
| 01:05.41 | Nyle | do us a favor redwyrm too |
| 01:05.47 | Nyle | make a kickass live image :) |
| 01:05.49 | redwyrm | #debian-live doesn't exist :( |
| 01:05.50 | Tweak1029 | that's the eth0 being wrongly labeled, like i was talking about |
| 01:05.55 | Nyle | redwyrm: try oftc |
| 01:05.56 | Nyle | !oftc |
| 01:05.56 | dpkg | it has been said that oftc is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. See also <freenode> and <fact sharing> |
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| 01:06.10 | redwyrm | Nyle, the main purpose is so that I can have the Nouveau drivers on it |
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| 01:06.19 | Nyle | i dunno what that is |
| 01:06.31 | redwyrm | Nyle, it's an open source driver for nVidia cards |
| 01:06.44 | Penix | Tweak1029: it doesn't matter what it's called. just tell everything to use eth1 instead |
| 01:06.45 | Nyle | how is it diff from NV? |
| 01:06.47 | redwyrm | not the same as the Xorg ones... they started with Xorg's driver and went from there |
| 01:07.00 | Penix | Nyle: open source 3D acceleration |
| 01:07.03 | Nyle | oh |
| 01:07.07 | redwyrm | their goal is to add 3D support (as well as 2D, which they already have) |
| 01:07.18 | Nyle | now that I wouldn't mind |
| 01:07.34 | Nyle | but... I have a 7600GS. what I really need is working stable 3d/2d fglrx |
| 01:07.36 | Nyle | well, no |
| 01:07.36 | Tweak1029 | Penix: what do you mean? dhcp isn't working right so i'm having to set it up as a fixed IP and it's giving me a SLOW, unreliable internet connection |
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| 01:07.46 | redwyrm | they say that they're currently working on "deobfuscating the source we inherited from the X11 nv driver" |
| 01:08.00 | Nyle | I mean I want ati drivers, open source, with 3d for later cards, like the one I have, X1900XTX |
| 01:08.09 | Penix | Tweak1029: being dhcp or static has nothing to do with that |
| 01:08.15 | Nyle | only fglrx or vesa work on that card |
| 01:08.39 | Tweak1029 | Penix: i know that, but I'm thinking that if it were labeled correctly dhcp might work how it was before it switched names |
| 01:08.39 | Penix | Tweak1029: if dhcp isn't working because it expects eth0 to exist, tell your dhcp client to use eth1 |
| 01:09.02 | Tweak1029 | Penix: alright, i'll go look at the man/ --help page for it |
| 01:09.09 | Nyle | info is cool |
| 01:10.01 | stew | Nyle: have you checked on where avivo is? |
| 01:10.06 | Tramp | Tweak1029: Do you have /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
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| 01:10.24 | stew | Nyle: avivo being the free driver for those later ati cards |
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| 01:10.41 | Nyle | stew: eh.. still a bit too far away, I downloaded the driver and took a look... and of course it didn't make any sense to me because I don't know device driver programming, I should learn a bit |
| 01:10.43 | cizzi | i'm trying to write some code to detect a change in a list of names.. whats a good tool for this? |
| 01:10.48 | Nyle | just to understand the code maybe |
| 01:10.49 | cizzi | this is sample data |
| 01:10.50 | cizzi | http://pastebin.ca/845995 |
| 01:11.06 | redwyrm | g'night all |
| 01:11.13 | cizzi | i want to parse and output to a file without the subtotals for each user |
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| 01:11.25 | Tweak1029 | Tramp: yes, i do |
| 01:11.55 | Nyle | stew: hopefully by the time lenny goes stable maybe we might have a working driver. ATI did promise to release some specifications. The AIGLX driver is out, who knows, soon they might share how a bit of the HW works |
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| 01:12.19 | Nyle | and as soon as we have the specs, you KNOW the driver is going to get built soon |
| 01:12.23 | Tweak1029 | Tramp: i'm in nano looking at it, i see how i can change the name now |
| 01:12.41 | Tramp | Tweak1029: This is probably your problem. I'm not sure, how to fix it though. Either edit the file or remove it and rerun /lib/udev/write_net_rules - dunno. In any case, make a backup-copy of it 8) |
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| 01:13.15 | kb3llm | Where does OpenSSH log to? I want to check failed login attempts.. |
| 01:13.24 | cizzi | auth.log |
| 01:13.25 | stew | kb3llm: /var/log/auth.log |
| 01:13.31 | kb3llm | thanks :) |
| 01:13.33 | Tramp | Tweak1029: yeah, probably just change the eth1 to eth0 |
| 01:13.34 | Tweak1029 | Tramp: NAME="eth1" looks promising |
| 01:13.53 | Nyle | rahul: pin |
| 01:13.55 | Nyle | g |
| 01:14.20 | Tweak1029 | Tramp: oddly enough, it's detecting my old nic that i removed about 30 minutes ago, after a reboot or two |
| 01:14.40 | Stevie | that's called "phantom nic syndrome" |
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| 01:14.45 | Tramp | Tweak1029: that's the very point of this file. It keeps the numbering, in case itc comes back |
| 01:15.02 | Nyle | pns? |
| 01:15.05 | Nyle | kinky. |
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| 01:15.22 | Stevie | oh yeah |
| 01:15.26 | Tramp | Tweak1029: however, if it will never come back, you have to do some udev-magic (which I don't know) |
| 01:15.37 | Tweak1029 | Tramp: ok, thanks, that makes a bit more sense... I don't know much about networking on linux as this is my first encounter, so please bear with me if I make any stupid mistakes :P |
| 01:15.39 | Stevie | I forgot to use a TLA to give it the appearance of legitimacy |
| 01:15.49 | karsten | Nyle: As opposed to drinking or sleeping? |
| 01:15.57 | Nyle | i'm sorry? |
| 01:16.06 | Nyle | what? |
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| 01:16.12 | karsten | 17:12 * Nyle dances around |
| 01:16.14 | Tramp | Tweak1029: but just editing the file is probably enough. Just delete the line of the eth0 NIC and rename the eth1 to eth0 and you should be fine |
| 01:16.14 | Nyle | oh |
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| 01:16.25 | Nyle | karsten: yeh man, a bit of both ;) |
| 01:16.59 | karsten | ;) |
| 01:17.13 | Stevie | so does anyone know how to fix this? http://www.klozoff.org/pix/tiny-fonts.png |
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| 01:17.44 | stew | Stevie: what is your dpi setting? |
| 01:17.50 | Stevie | nfi |
| 01:17.54 | Stevie | how do I find out |
| 01:18.00 | stew | Stevie: run "xdpyinfo | grep resolution" |
| 01:18.14 | stew | Stevie: or from a vt, run "DISPLAY=:0 xdpyinfo | grep resolution" |
| 01:18.23 | Tweak1029 | Tramp: I just did 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' and network-admin is still telling me it sees an eth1 network card, maybe this will work after a reboot, brb |
| 01:18.25 | Nyle | afaik X would have to be launched with a -dpi switch manually in order to change it |
| 01:18.40 | Nyle | otherwise it reads from monitor values |
| 01:18.44 | Stevie | blah, what's the env var for the xauth file path? |
| 01:18.45 | stew | Nyle: its settable from gnome-control-cetner |
| 01:18.53 | Nyle | and kcontrol as well |
| 01:18.54 | stew | Stevie: XAUTHORITY |
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| 01:19.44 | Stevie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:20.10 | stew | Stevie: that should probably be closer to 100x100 |
| 01:20.27 | cy | how do I connect to a wpa enabled access point on the command line? |
| 01:20.42 | neotic | iwconfig |
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| 01:21.39 | cy | nothing in the man page about WPA |
| 01:21.49 | cy | you can do WEP, I see that |
| 01:22.07 | olczyk | Hey can anyone recommend a channel for linux developers? |
| 01:22.23 | azeem | #kernelnewbies |
| 01:22.23 | stew | Stevie: you can edit that by specifying the monitor dimensions (in mm) in the xorg.conf in the monitor section |
| 01:22.46 | Stevie | yeah, I've got the xorg.conf man page up now |
| 01:22.50 | Stevie | trying to find the specs |
| 01:22.57 | olczyk | azeem: Sorry, I meant linux application developers. |
| 01:23.04 | Stevie | (II) NV(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 110 vert.: 62 |
| 01:23.32 | azeem | olczyk: dunno |
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| 01:28.01 | Stevie | gah. |
| 01:28.17 | Stevie | stew: I put stuff into the xorg.conf for DisplaySize and it's still saying 18x24 |
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| 01:31.32 | x3on | whats the best way to install xorg, so it configures correct resolution etc? |
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| 01:35.57 | rxKaffee | is there any reason that dash would not honor ~/.profile? |
| 01:36.05 | Stevie | mrs dash? |
| 01:36.46 | rxKaffee | mrs? |
| 01:36.59 | rxKaffee | I'm talking about debians implementation of ash |
| 01:37.28 | kgoetz | rxKaffee: is it posix? |
| 01:37.36 | kgoetz | s/posix/required by posix |
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| 01:39.01 | Szeraax | hey all, is there a way to capture a few packets with wireshark then send them back over the wire? |
| 01:39.11 | Szeraax | would i need to use some raw data sender, or what? |
| 01:39.35 | Stevie | can't libpcap do that? |
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| 01:39.43 | Szeraax | i have no idea |
| 01:39.44 | GoMittGo | GOVERNOR ROMNEY: "And further, if I were fortunate enough to be elected your President, I'd call for a National Summit of Nations to create a new partnership – a Partnership for [Progress] and Prosperity." |
| 01:39.44 | GoMittGo | "This Partnership would assemble the resources of all the nations of the world to work to assure that Islamic states that are threatened with violent Jihad have public schools that are not Wahhabi madrasas; that they have micro-credit and banking, the rule of law, human rights, basic health care, and competitive economic practices." (Governor Mitt Romney, Remarks At Yeshiva University, 4/26/07) |
| 01:39.56 | Szeraax | kick him? someone? |
| 01:40.18 | rxKaffee | kzI do not know if reading of .profile is a posix requirement or not |
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| 01:40.29 | Megadork | I thoughr Romney was a candidate |
| 01:40.34 | Szeraax | he is... |
| 01:40.43 | streuner_ | GoMittGo: please stop that |
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| 01:40.43 | rxKaffee | kgoetz: sorry, that last line was for you |
| 01:40.51 | Megadork | then how is he a governor?? |
| 01:40.52 | Szeraax | any idea of how to use libpcap? |
| 01:40.57 | streuner_ | oh, s(he) left already |
| 01:40.58 | Megadork | *confused* |
| 01:41.00 | Szeraax | we was governer of Mass. |
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| 01:41.12 | Tramp | Szeraax: check tcpreplay |
| 01:41.14 | Szeraax | he* |
| 01:41.17 | azeem | Szeraax: the !ops <nick: reason> factoid is the proper way to invoke the channel operators |
| 01:41.20 | kgoetz | rxKaffee: if its not a posix requirement, dash wont feel obliged to honor it |
| 01:41.31 | Szeraax | azeem thank you |
| 01:41.37 | helo_ | what file system type should i use on my new raid1 media storage? |
| 01:41.49 | Stevie | is it on x86 hardware? |
| 01:41.50 | azeem | helo_: ext3 |
| 01:42.00 | Stevie | if so, what azeem said |
| 01:42.25 | helo_ | i usually do... one of these drives i got from work has reiser on it, so i thought i'd ask :) |
| 01:43.03 | rxKaffee | kgoetz: any idea what startup files dash does look at? man dash seems to just give me sh's manpage, which suggests .profile should be good |
| 01:43.30 | karsten | rxKaffee: It's a bourne-compliant shell, so, yes, I'd think. |
| 01:44.27 | rxKaffee | ah, bingo... I wasn't starting dash as a login shell :( now it is all better |
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| 01:44.53 | Penix | fscking stupid svn mirroring |
| 01:44.59 | Stevie | !ricerfs |
| 01:44.59 | dpkg | well, ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See <reiserfs> for real info. <ext3 vs reiserfs> |
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| 01:45.27 | x3on | Hey.. anyone know anything about using wireless between two computers without an access point, like using a crossover network cable? |
| 01:45.30 | x3on | in Linux |
| 01:45.35 | Stevie | ad-hoc networking |
| 01:45.47 | rxKaffee | x3on: pretty sure ad-hoc mode is dependent on your wifi card's abilities |
| 01:46.02 | rxKaffee | x3on: other possibility would be to use a soft-ap compatible card and create an ap on your pc |
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| 01:47.25 | zicho | As root, how do i change the password of another user? |
| 01:47.39 | rxKaffee | passwd --help |
| 01:47.41 | streuner_ | zicho: man passwd |
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| 01:49.19 | rxKaffee | as root, how do you disable another user from changing their password? |
| 01:49.29 | rxKaffee | I thought there was a flag for passwd, but seems not to be |
| 01:49.32 | streuner_ | heh |
| 01:49.42 | Stevie | it's something in /etc/passwd |
| 01:49.45 | rxKaffee | limiting access to the binary the only way? |
| 01:50.05 | Stevie | no, there's something you can do in /etc/passwd. And I'm sure there's a cmd to do it |
| 01:50.05 | rxKaffee | Stevie: ah ok, I'll look into flag changing then |
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| 01:50.22 | Zloog | Hi, is there a way to use apt-get to find out what package installed a particular file? |
| 01:50.31 | rxKaffee | dpkg -S |
| 01:50.39 | Zloog | thanks |
| 01:50.49 | rxKaffee | hmm, its not in chfn |
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| 01:52.43 | rxKaffee | nor usermod |
| 01:52.56 | rxKaffee | zicho: now look, you've got me feinding for infos :( |
| 01:53.17 | zicho | rxKaffee: Huh? |
| 01:53.29 | Stevie | ah |
| 01:53.30 | zicho | streuner_: thx |
| 01:53.31 | Stevie | hey rxKaffee |
| 01:53.38 | rxKaffee | hmmm? |
| 01:53.39 | Stevie | passwd -n 2147483647 youruser |
| 01:54.12 | rxKaffee | -n? is that in manpage there? |
| 01:54.20 | Stevie | yeah |
| 01:54.42 | Stevie | it means they have to wait 6 million years between passwd changes |
| 01:55.03 | Stevie | if your computer is still running then, they deserve to be able to change their passwd |
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| 01:55.36 | Stevie | ;-) |
| 01:55.37 | rxKaffee | ah haha, not in manpage here, but is in --help |
| 01:55.44 | Stevie | it's in my manpage |
| 01:55.45 | streuner_ | 6 million years, well, that should be enough ;-) |
| 01:55.49 | rxKaffee | I do have -m --mindays in manpage |
| 01:55.59 | rxKaffee | --help gives me -n --mindays |
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| 01:56.03 | rxKaffee | wacky |
| 01:56.07 | funbags | Anyone know of a gui (gnome) for samba config / admin? |
| 01:56.17 | rxKaffee | thanks Stevie that should do the trick nicely :D |
| 01:56.21 | helo_ | wtf type is reiser in cfdisk? |
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| 01:56.33 | rxKaffee | funbags: afaik samba still comes with an http based admin |
| 01:56.35 | azeem | helo_: are you sure you should use reise? |
| 01:56.37 | streuner_ | helo: just choose "Linux" |
| 01:56.38 | azeem | reiser* |
| 01:56.49 | helo_ | i'm resizing the reiser partition to take up the whole disk first |
| 01:56.52 | rxKaffee | helo_: cfdisk marks partition type, not filesystem type |
| 01:56.55 | streuner_ | !filesystems |
| 01:56.55 | dpkg | Journaling filesystems in a nutshell: <peterS> fast but dangerous: reiserfs. medium-speed but reliable: ext3. fast, mostly reliable, and *huge*: xfs. slow, probably reliable: jfs. unknown, probably buggy: reiser4. If you have to ask, use ext3, or see http://fsbench.netnation.com/ |
| 01:57.02 | funbags | rxKaffee, aye, i just was seeing what was out there - the http version is called swat i beleive |
| 01:57.05 | charzero | Is there some file in /proc or /sys that will show me if my network jack has something plugged into it? |
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| 01:57.16 | Stevie | apt-cache policy passwd |
| 01:57.24 | Stevie | charzero: mii-tool or ethtool |
| 01:57.32 | helo_ | then i'm giong to make a degraded array, copy the reiser data over, and then add the reiser disk into the raid1 as a new active disk |
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| 01:57.37 | rxKaffee | funbags: ah yes, swat is the one |
| 01:57.52 | Penix | "slow, probably reliable" pfft. load of shit |
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| 01:58.12 | Penix | that statement, not the fs.... |
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| 01:58.27 | streuner_ | Penix: true, i use it on my laptop, its just fine |
| 01:58.34 | Penix | been using it on everything for years |
| 01:58.35 | charzero | Stevie: thanks. |
| 01:58.50 | funbags | by any chance does anyone deal with EDI here? |
| 01:58.54 | Penix | s/reliable/unreliable/ too...I need more sleep |
| 01:59.02 | Penix | hmm. yes, I do. |
| 01:59.25 | Stevie | rxkaffee: apt-cache policy passwd -- what's that kick out? |
| 01:59.35 | funbags | Penix, do you use any of the big translators? |
| 01:59.59 | funbags | Penix, Extol / Inovis / Gentran |
| 02:00.16 | Penix | funbags: wth are you talking about? |
| 02:00.37 | rxKaffee | Stevie: oh... my manpages are on gentoo and ubuntu boxen |
| 02:00.42 | funbags | Penix, n/m thought u were responding to my EDI question |
| 02:00.46 | Stevie | rxk: ahhh |
| 02:00.48 | rxKaffee | Stevie: but on the buntu box the version is 1:4.0.18.1-9 |
| 02:00.57 | rxKaffee | I don't keep man on my deb server |
| 02:01.04 | Stevie | i c |
| 02:01.08 | Penix | funbags: ah. ok. just talking to myself |
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| 02:01.27 | Stevie | uh oh |
| 02:01.33 | Stevie | new moon. watch out for cockatrices |
| 02:02.18 | cafuego | grumpy little manses ... we hatses them... |
| 02:02.21 | rxKaffee | I gotta bounce |
| 02:02.23 | rxKaffee | thanks guys, see ya 'round |
| 02:02.48 | Penix | new moons bring 'em out? |
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| 02:04.30 | Penix | I gotta go get me a kiddie pool and a carton of beer. |
| 02:04.41 | Penix | or move to tas. or something... |
| 02:04.47 | funbags | how much of a pain is getting flash fired up on AMD64? |
| 02:04.53 | cafuego | funbags: none |
| 02:04.58 | streuner_ | none? |
| 02:05.19 | funbags | cafuego, please explain :) I havent tried yet, but was reading peoples comments |
| 02:05.20 | cafuego | Penix: Like this? http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/foto/99e532d6_elektriek.JPG |
| 02:05.33 | cafuego | funbags: You use nspluginwrapper, which works just dandy |
| 02:06.02 | Penix | cafuego: *exactly* like that |
| 02:06.02 | Megadork | is porn discussion allowed here |
| 02:06.12 | cafuego | Megadork: No. |
| 02:06.12 | Penix | Megadork: of course not |
| 02:06.22 | Megadork | why >:( |
| 02:06.29 | funbags | cafuego, ok installing the wrapper now |
| 02:06.37 | Megadork | Well I just have to say asian woman should be banned from it |
| 02:06.38 | cafuego | Megadork: This is a debian linux support channel. Porn is not debian linux. |
| 02:06.41 | Megadork | oh |
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| 02:06.43 | Penix | Megadork: because this isn't #pr0n? |
| 02:06.44 | funbags | cafuego, after that just install the flash right from adobe? |
| 02:06.45 | Megadork | i tohught i waso n defvocus |
| 02:06.48 | Megadork | * defocus |
| 02:06.53 | cafuego | !ops Megadork is a moron |
| 02:06.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: cafuego complains about: Megadork is a moron |
| 02:06.56 | Megadork | sry, namesl ook the same -.- |
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| 02:07.14 | peterS | Megadork: please fix your spacebar and your spellcheck, thanks |
| 02:07.21 | Penix | and your brain |
| 02:07.26 | streuner_ | haha |
| 02:07.29 | Stevie | well |
| 02:07.29 | cafuego | funbags: You grab the tarball from adobe, then use the nspluginwrapper script to set up symlinks. |
| 02:07.32 | GS42K0 | this is a family channel |
| 02:07.35 | GS42K0 | ;) |
| 02:07.36 | Stevie | at least his nick is accurate |
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| 02:07.53 | cafuego | funbags: It's all pretty straightforward. |
| 02:08.00 | peterS | see, I would think that technically, 'Megadork' and 'Penix' mean almost the same thing |
| 02:08.01 | GS42K0 | but do I have to make my dhclient enter-hook scripts execuutable? |
| 02:08.03 | funbags | cafuego, trying now |
| 02:08.06 | Penix | heh |
| 02:08.18 | cafuego | funbags: If there is a package in contrib or non-free, it probably automates all of that |
| 02:08.27 | funbags | hrm |
| 02:08.55 | funbags | cafuego, searching now |
| 02:09.11 | cafuego | !info nspluginwrapper |
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| 02:09.22 | cafuego | Hrm, there's no such package. |
| 02:09.31 | cafuego | Just backprot it from ubuntu |
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| 02:09.50 | stew | its in lenny and unstable in contrib |
| 02:09.50 | Megadork | Debian and Ubuntu are the same thing, just Debian looks nicer |
| 02:09.57 | funbags | lol |
| 02:09.57 | stew | Megadork: stop |
| 02:10.06 | cafuego | Just quit with the trolling already. |
| 02:10.09 | Penix | worst troll ever |
| 02:10.19 | streuner_ | heh, no :-) |
| 02:10.37 | Megadork | stop calling me a troll I'm not trolling |
| 02:10.40 | Megadork | loser |
| 02:10.42 | cafuego | Yes, 'DO YOU KNOW ANY COMMAND PROMPTS COMMANDS' was worse |
| 02:10.46 | azeem | Megadork: do you have a Debian question? |
| 02:10.54 | cafuego | And "LUNIX KERNEL NEEDS XML SUPPORT!!!!;" |
| 02:11.04 | Megadork | ya, what's XML |
| 02:11.08 | pickcoder | bwuhahaha |
| 02:11.20 | gravity | That'd be pretty easy. Write a module |
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| 02:11.31 | chodebucket | hola |
| 02:11.31 | Stevie | XML == XtreMely Lame |
| 02:11.31 | streuner_ | Megadork: dont waste our and your time, please. |
| 02:11.40 | Penix | I love that xml one |
| 02:11.52 | Penix | haven't seen 'wanna build X in to the kernel' for ages |
| 02:12.02 | gravity | Some of X is going in to the kernel |
| 02:12.04 | gravity | But only the right bit |
| 02:12.06 | Stevie | let's build all userspace apps into the kernel |
| 02:12.07 | chodebucket | whats a command to show info about a currently running mysql server from console? |
| 02:12.13 | chodebucket | like connections, etc |
| 02:12.17 | Stevie | insmod bash.ko |
| 02:12.40 | cafuego | chodebucket: you should be able to run 'show status;' in the mysql client |
| 02:12.41 | Megadork | how do I reconfigure the kernel |
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| 02:12.44 | pickcoder | one day Pick will be revered for it's hashed files |
| 02:12.52 | abrotman | HA! |
| 02:12.53 | pickcoder | once the bloat of XML is realized |
| 02:12.55 | rokra | please how to launch a gnome session using the .xsession file? |
| 02:13.07 | abrotman | /usr/bin/gnome-session |
| 02:13.07 | Stevie | how goes it, abrotman |
| 02:13.09 | abrotman | hi |
| 02:13.29 | abrotman | pickcoder: my boss was picking on a friend of his the other day about pick programming :) |
| 02:13.30 | pickcoder | watch out for the punch cards |
| 02:13.31 | chodebucket | cafuego: cool thx, thats what i was looking for |
| 02:13.44 | cafuego | woo! |
| 02:13.50 | rokra | abrotman: I tried that but I have only the desktop launched ( no button bar , no task bar...) just the desktop |
| 02:13.54 | pickcoder | abrotman: what kind of "picking" |
| 02:13.57 | pickcoder | bwuhahah |
| 02:14.21 | cafuego | chodebucket: there's also an 'mtop' I think. |
| 02:14.25 | abrotman | rokra: that's what mine is set to |
| 02:14.28 | cafuego | But your mileag emay vary on that one |
| 02:14.29 | Stevie | what is pick programming? |
| 02:14.33 | pickcoder | abrotman: seriously though.. check out Cache` |
| 02:14.41 | abrotman | Stevie: it's a language .. but not many people use it .. but those that do love it |
| 02:15.05 | pickcoder | that's not true |
| 02:15.08 | cafuego | Stevie: It's about picking a language, most people pick C ;-) |
| 02:15.13 | abrotman | they don't love it ? |
| 02:15.14 | pickcoder | you just don't know it's being used |
| 02:15.36 | funbags | cafuego, hey - you were right it was easy - I got it up and running |
| 02:15.37 | Stevie | cafuego: heh |
| 02:15.50 | Stevie | got a url, pickcoder? |
| 02:15.50 | pickcoder | www.pickwiki.org |
| 02:15.55 | rokra | abrotman: buhh :p ok I continue to analyze |
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| 02:16.01 | streuner_ | abrotman: what do you think? Both of these guys could still survive if the THING happens? http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/foto/99e532d6_elektriek.JPG |
| 02:16.02 | Stevie | Your request for http://www.pickwiki.org/ could not be fulfilled, because the domain name www.pickwiki.org could not be resolved. |
| 02:16.05 | abrotman | rokra: have you logged into gnome before ? |
| 02:16.06 | funbags | cafuego, using a flash speed test right now |
| 02:16.25 | pickcoder | abrotman: I'm forming a pick developer's society.. tell your "pick friend" |
| 02:16.28 | pickcoder | heh |
| 02:16.38 | abrotman | pickcoder: you're in the .us SW ? |
| 02:16.38 | cafuego | Stevie: it's a .com,. not a .org |
| 02:16.46 | Stevie | is this like for lotteries? pick(5) |
| 02:16.48 | pickcoder | sorry.. pickwiki.com |
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| 02:17.11 | chodebucket | mtop must not be part of a default sql install |
| 02:17.15 | Stevie | ugh |
| 02:17.15 | pickcoder | abrotman: NC specifically |
| 02:17.29 | Stevie | CamelCaseGetsOnMyNerves |
| 02:17.29 | Turno | hey, i just installed ebox, which is built on sarge... how come I can't access this machine by its hostname from other machines on my network? |
| 02:17.29 | abrotman | pickcoder: oh .. way off .. the guy i know was near philly .. now near phoenix |
| 02:17.29 | funbags | is there a irc plugin to log all of your name mentions, so if you are AFK you can review them? |
| 02:17.32 | pickcoder | it's an international association |
| 02:17.48 | abrotman | funbags: depends on your client .. but usually yes |
| 02:17.52 | pickcoder | cafuego: that's a taboo subject in Pick... |
| 02:17.54 | cafuego | funbags: Any decent client does that, afaik |
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| 02:17.59 | Stevie | turno: did you put 'send host-name "hostnamehere";' in your dhclient.conf ? |
| 02:17.59 | chodebucket | funbags: its more fun to let people talk shit about you without you knowing |
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| 02:18.03 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@201.160.144.36.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] by azeem |
| 02:18.03 | *** kick/#debian [Romney08!n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-33-192.dynamic.mnet-online.de] by azeem (you should know better) |
| 02:18.03 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 02:18.05 | pickcoder | I'm still trying to get OpenQM into Debian |
| 02:18.08 | funbags | chodebucket, lol |
| 02:18.12 | pickcoder | maybe one day.. |
| 02:18.17 | Stevie | what was that? |
| 02:18.21 | cafuego | azeem: that showed dim! |
| 02:18.25 | rokra | abrotman: no in fact this is a home folder on the entwork ( NIS/NFS) which is used for xfce session |
| 02:18.30 | funbags | what irc client you guys using? |
| 02:18.39 | Stevie | I'm using Colloquy |
| 02:18.40 | abrotman | most people use irssi or xchat i'd say |
| 02:18.41 | rokra | abrotman: I installed one machine with gnome and I would like to use this account for gnome too |
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| 02:18.54 | funbags | im using xchat now |
| 02:19.01 | streuner_ | abrotman: popcon should know *BETTER* :-) |
| 02:19.05 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:19.06 | Megadork | I wish debian had mIRC |
| 02:19.08 | rokra | funbags: irssi for me |
| 02:19.09 | chodebucket | xchat here --- but real men use telnet for irc ;) |
| 02:19.09 | chodebucket | jk |
| 02:19.15 | funbags | ha |
| 02:19.17 | Stevie | chode: I once used netcat to IRC |
| 02:19.21 | blauzahl | just grep your text logfiles? |
| 02:19.22 | rokra | Stevie: lol |
| 02:19.24 | chodebucket | i used telnet to irc a couple times |
| 02:19.25 | funbags | netcat? |
| 02:19.25 | Stevie | I can't remember why but I needed to |
| 02:19.26 | cafuego | and again with the trolling |
| 02:19.30 | chodebucket | you can find all the syntax out there |
| 02:19.32 | chodebucket | it sucks tho |
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| 02:19.41 | Stevie | there was something I needed it for |
| 02:19.46 | Stevie | what's the % do? |
| 02:19.51 | azeem | Megadork: you've been silenced for 10 minutes, please try to be more signal and less noise from now on |
| 02:20.06 | Stevie | that answers that |
| 02:20.13 | abrotman | !qotd97 |
| 02:20.14 | dpkg | well, qotd97 is [21:05:13] <MarkS> guys, just a quick poll/survey. What irc client are you using? [21:05:32] <pipeline> MarkS: Just /version #debian [21:05:54] <MarkS> oh cool... thanks pipeline. I didn't realize I could do that. |
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| 02:20.44 | lymeca | I want to get a version of a package that was in testing not too long ago but was replaced by a newer version. ie I want to get libprojectm1 version 1.01-2 but version 1.01-3 is currently in testing/unstable with NO version available in stable. |
| 02:20.56 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 02:20.56 | dpkg | sdn is, like, go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is largely lost because of harddisk problems. |
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| 02:21.23 | Stevie | immediately following: *** MarkS has quit IRC (SendQ Exceeded) |
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| 02:21.35 | pickcoder | hardisk problems? no DVD archive? |
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| 02:22.17 | funbags | anyone have vnc accessing their current open desktop when they are away? |
| 02:22.31 | Stevie | x11vnc rules |
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| 02:22.55 | funbags | Stevie, seems interesting |
| 02:23.06 | Stevie | you've never used x11vnc? |
| 02:23.10 | Stevie | I live on it |
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| 02:23.17 | Stevie | I have a linux box hooked up to my TV |
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| 02:23.22 | pickcoder | ssh is lighter... |
| 02:23.24 | Stevie | I use x11vnc to control it |
| 02:23.33 | funbags | Stevie, next - to be honest this is my linux box that isnt headless |
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| 02:23.49 | streuner_ | abrotman: did you look at the picture? |
| 02:23.49 | pickcoder | abrotman: not at home then eh? |
| 02:23.56 | Stevie | pickcoder: it has lots of DVD images on it... I use VLC to load up the ISO, vnc in, start off the movie, then close it out |
| 02:23.57 | funbags | Stevie, next = nope |
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| 02:24.04 | abrotman | pickcoder: business in atlantic city .. yay .. i think |
| 02:24.11 | abrotman | streuner_: is that you? |
| 02:24.20 | pickcoder | don't stray too far |
| 02:24.27 | streuner_ | abrotman: iam crazy, but not that much :-) |
| 02:24.35 | abrotman | uhm ... is this normal for aptitude "There are now 0 updates [-1]." |
| 02:24.42 | chodebucket | Stevie: why not just get a media center remote and use mythtv |
| 02:24.48 | chodebucket | i access all my stuff through one remote |
| 02:24.49 | pickcoder | drop a $.25 in the slots for me |
| 02:24.52 | chodebucket | instead of opening up vnc |
| 02:24.58 | abrotman | pickcoder: my dad used to live down here .. i don't gamble |
| 02:25.08 | streuner_ | hm |
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| 02:25.27 | Stevie | chodebucket: where's the fun in doing it the easy way |
| 02:25.37 | pickcoder | abrotman: it's not gambling.. it's charity |
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| 02:25.52 | abrotman | pickcoder: i suppose .. i still don't do it |
| 02:25.53 | pickcoder | unless you actually expect to win at some point... |
| 02:25.53 | GS42K0 | hi again |
| 02:25.56 | pickcoder | <g> |
| 02:26.01 | Stevie | haha |
| 02:26.07 | GS42K0 | talking about dhcp enter hooks |
| 02:26.18 | GS42K0 | do the scripts have to be executable? |
| 02:26.21 | yigal | anyone done a mass download of youtube videos it's my 1st time with for i in $(cat list-of-videos); do clive youtube.com/$i;done - that rocks |
| 02:26.36 | streuner_ | youtube-dl ? |
| 02:26.47 | abrotman | GS42K0: yes |
| 02:26.52 | GS42K0 | damn |
| 02:26.55 | streuner_ | but wait, mass download? |
| 02:26.57 | Stevie | haha |
| 02:26.58 | yigal | streuner_: clive seems to break less often |
| 02:27.05 | Stevie | kde "suggests" x-window-system-core |
| 02:27.07 | GS42K0 | are you sure abrotman? |
| 02:27.12 | Stevie | I'd like to see someone use kde w/o X |
| 02:27.14 | abrotman | i'm pretty sure .. |
| 02:27.27 | abrotman | i don't think "sh ./scriptname" will do it unless it's +x |
| 02:27.31 | GS42K0 | ok. then thats why it didnt happen as expected |
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| 02:27.47 | Stevie | abrotman: actually, it will |
| 02:27.51 | Stevie | it should anyway |
| 02:27.51 | abrotman | see .. there you go! |
| 02:27.59 | Penix | Stevie: Qt has directfb support afaik, so it's probably possible |
| 02:28.03 | abrotman | i could have verified .. i'm just lazy! |
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| 02:28.18 | Stevie | abrotman: it wil |
| 02:28.18 | Stevie | l |
| 02:28.27 | Stevie | !nopaste |
| 02:28.27 | dpkg | Remember you can not paste here, use http://nopaste.snit.ch/ and/or ask me !paste, or if you are stuck in console with no mouse, you can install nopaste: wget http://n01se.net/agriffis/nopaste/nopaste-1992 && chmod 700 nopaste-1992 && command | nopaste, ruby is required, or the homepage for nopaste is http://n01se.net/agriffis/nopaste/ |
| 02:28.31 | abrotman | GS42K0: ^^^ |
| 02:28.34 | abrotman | not the pasting |
| 02:28.42 | yigal | we should kick the bot |
| 02:28.46 | Stevie | where's the debian nopaste? |
| 02:28.52 | Stevie | the #debian nopaste |
| 02:28.58 | GS42K0 | :set paste hehe |
| 02:28.59 | pickcoder | !paster |
| 02:28.59 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
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| 02:29.02 | Penix | I like how the factoid about not pasting is so long and annoying |
| 02:29.07 | yigal | there he goes again |
| 02:29.23 | yigal | kick dpkg kick dpkg |
| 02:29.25 | streuner_ | Penix: the output is already limited... |
| 02:29.28 | yigal | ha ha |
| 02:29.30 | GS42K0 | i just wrote a great radio application |
| 02:29.34 | {Nathan} | Are there any good task manager-like apps in the repos? (preferably non-qt, but whatever works) |
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| 02:29.41 | yigal | GS42K0: what kind? |
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| 02:29.45 | Stevie | http://paste.debian.net/46382 |
| 02:29.48 | nocti | what do i google for if i want to setup apache on a home box with dhcp connection? thanks. |
| 02:29.51 | streuner_ | Penix: its up on the users HOW they ue it... |
| 02:29.57 | Stevie | ^^^ voila |
| 02:29.57 | Penix | I guess |
| 02:29.59 | streuner_ | s/ue/usee/ |
| 02:30.01 | pickcoder | nocti: eh? |
| 02:30.01 | streuner_ | use* |
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| 02:30.11 | piroko | Hey guys. Quick cups question. [cups-driverd] Unable to open PPD directory "/opt/share/ppd": No such file or directory |
| 02:30.25 | yigal | piroko: is it gunzipped? |
| 02:30.38 | piroko | yigal: Not sure... I just installed it through apt |
| 02:30.39 | abrotman | why is it looking there? |
| 02:30.44 | piroko | No clue |
| 02:30.47 | pickcoder | nocti: if you only want LAN access to Apache then DHCP is irrelevant |
| 02:31.06 | nocti | pickcoder, so i can serve webpages, but my connection is dsl dhcp, i read up on dyn dns but i dont know how to set it up correctly |
| 02:31.13 | chodebucket | nocti: http://www.ask.com/web?q=what+do+i+google+for+if+i+want+to+setup+apache+on+a+home+box+with+dhcp+connection%3F&search=search&qsrc=0&o=0&l=dir |
| 02:31.22 | chodebucket | nocti: ask JEEVES! |
| 02:31.24 | predder | Is it possible to reload group permissions (i've added myself to a bunch of groups) in an X session without restarting X |
| 02:31.25 | chodebucket | he knows all |
| 02:31.25 | Stevie | HAHA |
| 02:31.35 | yigal | piroko: one's ppds are in /usr/share/ppd ? :) |
| 02:31.48 | piroko | yigal: It seems this way |
| 02:31.54 | yigal | piroko: strange |
| 02:32.01 | nocti | pickcoder, i just want to play with a site using my home box |
| 02:32.03 | chodebucket | actually nm, jeeves su |
| 02:32.04 | pickcoder | piroko: are you sure you're running Debian? |
| 02:32.04 | chodebucket | x |
| 02:32.05 | Penix | piroko: are you sure you're using debian and debian cups packages? |
| 02:32.07 | piroko | yigal: Very. |
| 02:32.12 | GS42K0 | maybe i should release it as a debian package |
| 02:32.23 | piroko | pickcoder: Ha ha |
| 02:32.36 | funbags | Stevie, X11vnc installed - thanks man |
| 02:32.53 | piroko | Penix: Yep. The only external repositories I have set up are ones for opera, beryl, and virtualbox |
| 02:32.53 | x3on | trying to install xfce4 - 90MB ?? |
| 02:33.00 | pickcoder | piroko: you didn't compile cups from source by chance? |
| 02:33.04 | yigal | piroko: what command(s) did you issue to get the strange statement? |
| 02:33.05 | piroko | pickcoder: Nope |
| 02:33.11 | chodebucket | x3on: i remember when xfce used to be LIGHT :) |
| 02:33.21 | cafuego | Any chance thos extra repos also happen to host cups? |
| 02:33.27 | chodebucket | x3on: of course, i remember when the linux kernel source fit on a floppy |
| 02:33.29 | piroko | yigal: I just tried to add a printer via the cups web interface. It wants to use an HPLIP driver. I then checked the error log for that message |
| 02:33.44 | yigal | piroko: are you setting up an hp printer? |
| 02:33.47 | extor | Is there some tool for mozilla which can show you the source code behind a web page while you are viewing the actual web page? |
| 02:33.50 | piroko | yigal: Yep |
| 02:33.55 | yigal | piroko: if so use hp-setup its better |
| 02:34.02 | piroko | yigal: I'll give that a try right now |
| 02:34.04 | pickcoder | extor: view source? it's in the menu |
| 02:34.05 | Penix | x3on: that's with all the libs it depends on, like gtk etc. |
| 02:34.14 | streuner_ | !hpinkjet install |
| 02:34.14 | dpkg | http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html |
| 02:34.14 | piroko | yigal: Still odd about trying to look in /opt though... |
| 02:34.21 | streuner_ | read that ^^^ |
| 02:34.26 | Penix | x3on: installing 'xfce4' with all deps already installed shouldn't be more than 20mb or something afaik |
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| 02:34.28 | piroko | streuner_: Gotcha. Thanks |
| 02:34.36 | Penix | not even that probably |
| 02:34.45 | extor | pick no |
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| 02:35.13 | extor | that gives a context menu but a while back I remember coming across a free tool where they float the html code in the page itself for you |
| 02:35.14 | yigal | piroko: don't worry if it complains about not having a qt package installed the command line is just as good |
| 02:35.30 | piroko | yigal: I'm in the gui now :) |
| 02:35.35 | x3on | Ahh.. |
| 02:35.37 | streuner_ | there is a "penixsmite" if you prefer that :-) |
| 02:35.49 | jetscreamer | i know :) |
| 02:35.51 | piroko | yigal: Success! |
| 02:35.51 | x3on | yeah makes sense, i did a netinst without any software groupings installed |
| 02:35.58 | yigal | piroko: cool, excellent |
| 02:36.04 | Penix | x3on: 90mb would include X as well |
| 02:36.14 | piroko | Thanks for your help! |
| 02:36.31 | GS42K0 | checks for |
| 02:36.32 | GS42K0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:36.34 | GS42K0 | damn |
| 02:36.35 | yigal | piroko: just spread the knowledge :) |
| 02:36.53 | x3on | Penix: i just installed xserver-xorg already |
| 02:37.00 | abrotman | 'xorg' |
| 02:37.30 | yigal | x3on: if you want light try xmonad or dwm now those are champ in my book |
| 02:37.34 | x3on | shouldnt i have installed xserver-xorg :P |
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| 02:37.48 | Penix | x3on: xfce4 depends on 'xorg' |
| 02:37.56 | Penix | x3on: so it's pulling in everything, not just xserver-xorg |
| 02:38.05 | Penix | wait |
| 02:38.06 | Penix | no |
| 02:38.12 | piroko | yigal: Of course. I'll be hanging out around here more often again. I'll help as much as I can :) |
| 02:38.15 | Penix | recommends |
| 02:39.02 | maddash | yigal: wtf is xmonad? |
| 02:39.14 | piroko | yigal: Well crap. The test page worked alright, but I still can't print via lp |
| 02:39.26 | Penix | new tiling wm isn't it? |
| 02:39.27 | maddash | answer: not in debian |
| 02:39.29 | yigal | piroko: try with sude or as root |
| 02:39.31 | GS42K0 | secret agent chmod u+x *.pl time hehe brb |
| 02:39.34 | yigal | Penix: yes |
| 02:39.48 | yigal | maddash: not in etch perhaps but its in debian |
| 02:40.01 | piroko | yigal: Still no go. This time it complained due to a filter error O_o |
| 02:40.03 | yigal | s/its/it's |
| 02:40.05 | maddash | not in lenny either, genius |
| 02:40.15 | piroko | yigal: I think it's having problems converting the pdf |
| 02:40.16 | yigal | piroko: does the printer start |
| 02:40.20 | piroko | yigal: No |
| 02:40.30 | yigal | piroko: so try and print a text file |
| 02:40.36 | pickcoder | extor: oh.. I dunno |
| 02:40.45 | yigal | maddash: you in a lovely mood I see :) |
| 02:40.57 | venger | should /etc/gettydefs already exist in debian? trying to follow http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/getty-init.html |
| 02:40.59 | GS42K0 | C-v C-[c or something :) |
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| 02:41.09 | piroko | yigal: I just tried printing from evince and it works fine. I'll just avoid the commandline I guess :P |
| 02:41.31 | yigal | piroko: that is odd, I always print from the command line, well what ever works use it :) |
| 02:41.44 | jetscreamer | there is some bsd-compatability cups package iirc but not sure |
| 02:41.46 | abrotman | pickcoder: if you were a real geek .. you'd build one :) |
| 02:41.54 | piroko | yigal: Yeah. If the shoe fits |
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| 02:42.25 | maddash | fucking ugly |
| 02:42.50 | yigal | maddash: what is? |
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| 02:43.06 | pickcoder | abrotman: you really think I have that kind of time with twin infants? |
| 02:43.18 | abrotman | pickcoder: isn't that why you got married? :) |
| 02:43.36 | Turno | how can i make my machine addressible via its hostname? |
| 02:43.36 | yigal | pickcoder: plus you can get them on a terminal at 6 months |
| 02:43.39 | pickcoder | the jets or the babies? |
| 02:43.42 | pickcoder | heh |
| 02:43.45 | abrotman | the wife! |
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| 02:44.04 | blauzahl | you got married to have time with two infants? |
| 02:44.20 | Penix | hehe. I still own root_ |
| 02:44.22 | Penix | didn't even know |
| 02:44.36 | yigal | blauzahl: I could imagine rasing infants to do my computer work |
| 02:44.47 | blauzahl | it's that easy? |
| 02:44.59 | jetscreamer | This package provides the BSD commands for interacting with CUPS. It is provided separately to allow CUPS to coexist with other printing systems (to a small degree) |
| 02:45.02 | pickcoder | blauzahl: well.. one was on the development roadmap |
| 02:45.55 | pickcoder | I got two shots at getting one of them interested in programming |
| 02:46.06 | abrotman | blauzahl: apt-spy is for finding a fast mirror |
| 02:46.08 | jetscreamer | !tell blauzahl -about experimental |
| 02:46.17 | jetscreamer | !tell blauzahl -about search |
| 02:46.29 | pickcoder | kinda ironic that apt-spy takes forever to determine that |
| 02:47.01 | funbags | anyone know of a rsync gui? |
| 02:47.07 | blauzahl | well, i know what package i want, apparently i just don't know how to properly configure my sources.list :P |
| 02:47.43 | pickcoder | abrotman: these jets actually fly and have miniature gas-turbines.. I could never afford one though. Most of the kits I've seen start around $20K |
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| 02:48.09 | Penix | !tell root_ -about root |
| 02:48.10 | abrotman | pickcoder: a guy i know was building a smaller jet or prop .. can't remember which |
| 02:48.19 | joh6nn | anybody here ever use apt-cacher? |
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| 02:48.25 | yigal | streuner_: 34 youtube videos without clicking a single mouse button or waisting my time getting flash to eat my memory lovely |
| 02:48.56 | Zloog | !tell Zloog -about root |
| 02:49.11 | abrotman | Zloog: /msg dpkg selftell |
| 02:49.38 | Zloog | lol |
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| 02:50.06 | GS42K0 | abrotman, do you remember if it's only one exit script? |
| 02:50.16 | abrotman | for what? |
| 02:50.17 | jhulst | I'm going to be moving my debian install to a new hard drive. Currently everything is under a single partition. Is it sufficient to copy everything under / over to a new drive and then reinstall grub? |
| 02:50.25 | abrotman | will someone smack him ? |
| 02:50.36 | Stevie | who are we smacking? |
| 02:50.36 | jhulst | everything minus /tmp and /proc |
| 02:50.37 | Penix | jhulst: yes. keep permissions in mind though |
| 02:50.44 | Stevie | jhulst: cp -a |
| 02:50.46 | GS42K0 | abrotman, for doing some stuff after a new dhcp lease |
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| 02:50.48 | yigal | jhulst: how did you copy ? |
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| 02:50.55 | yigal | jhulst: be very careful |
| 02:51.04 | abrotman | GS42K0: you can call anything you want .. like a script that calls other scripts ? :) |
| 02:51.10 | Stevie | cp -xz |
| 02:51.10 | jhulst | I haven't copied yet, just doing the initial planning |
| 02:51.12 | funbags | picasa2 runs pretty slick |
| 02:51.12 | Stevie | cp -xa |
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| 02:51.24 | pickcoder | jhulst: are both disks /dev/hd or /dev/sd devices? |
| 02:51.32 | Zloog | HAHA: dpkg> hmm... stallman is an arrogant self-serving hypocritical closed-minded wanker, or rms, or ask me abour rms |
| 02:51.41 | Stevie | wait |
| 02:51.48 | Stevie | someone else agrees with me on RMS's views? |
| 02:51.52 | blauzahl | ok, will changing to experimental to update these libs update everything else into experimental? or just what i want? |
| 02:51.53 | GS42K0 | yes abrot, but I thought all the scripts in exit-hooks was executed and not only one of them |
| 02:52.02 | Penix | Zloog: we've seen em all. go play in #debian-bots or in a pm with dpkg |
| 02:52.08 | jhulst | pickcoder: One is /dev/sd, I'm not sure what the other will be yet |
| 02:52.12 | Stevie | blauzahl: you might want to try backporting |
| 02:52.16 | Zloog | Ur a buzz kill |
| 02:52.23 | pickcoder | jhulst: that'd be a critical planning step |
| 02:52.31 | jhulst | pickcoder: why? |
| 02:52.32 | abrotman | GS42K0: you're being a bit vague .. |
| 02:52.36 | pickcoder | unless you expect fstab to change magically |
| 02:52.48 | abrotman | pickcoder: magic is good! |
| 02:52.55 | jhulst | pickcoder: Yeah, I planned on changing fstab if it needed |
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| 02:53.15 | GS42K0 | run_hook /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks "$@" means to execute all of them, right? |
| 02:53.17 | blauzahl | Stevie: I'm not sure I see what you mean? |
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| 02:53.26 | pickcoder | jhulst: copy everyone over and then use grub's boot prompt to load the new root |
| 02:53.48 | jhulst | pickcoder: sounds good, that was the plan from the beginning |
| 02:53.48 | pickcoder | if it works.. try the boot section then and swapping the drives |
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| 02:53.59 | Stevie | blauzahl: what you can do is get the source to the experimental version of the lib(s) and compile it against what's on your own machine |
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| 02:54.45 | Stevie | !tell blauzahl about backport |
| 02:55.03 | blauzahl | oh, ok. |
| 02:55.06 | GS42K0 | sh abrot |
| 02:55.06 | blauzahl | thanks |
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| 02:57.24 | nathan | how do I find out info about an installed package? |
| 02:57.47 | pickcoder | nathan: define info |
| 02:57.48 | jetscreamer | thing about grub is if it can't find / on hd0 or wherever it's listed in menu.lst, it will give you error17 |
| 02:57.49 | stew | nathan: dpkg -s packagename |
| 02:58.06 | jetscreamer | so if you move the hd or take one out of the chain in front of it... |
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| 02:58.16 | pickcoder | jetscreamer: grub "map" works wonders |
| 02:58.17 | jetscreamer | have a grub floppy |
| 02:58.22 | nathan | alright, that's a start |
| 02:58.29 | jetscreamer | yes, but i'm talking about the grub prompt |
| 02:58.47 | jetscreamer | you won't get one if menu.lst points at the wrong place |
| 02:58.50 | nathan | I installed the package 'debian-installer' which says it's documentation. where ... *is* this ? |
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| 02:59.01 | pickcoder | jetscreamer: that's why you test the new root before you change anything else |
| 02:59.04 | Stevie | dpkg -L debian-installer |
| 02:59.04 | dpkg | No packages found matching debian-installer |
| 02:59.08 | jetscreamer | /usr/share/docs probably |
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| 02:59.28 | nathan | your bot missing some |
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| 02:59.52 | nathan | /usr/share/docs doesn't exist here |
| 03:00.12 | stew | nathan: /usr/share/doc/$packagename |
| 03:00.15 | nathan | thanks |
| 03:00.55 | joh6nn | anyone here ever use apt-cacher? |
| 03:01.08 | GS42K0 | damn. it seems like i need to use dhclient-enter-hooks.d instead to run them all and not only the first one |
| 03:01.22 | stew | joh6nn: just ask your real question |
| 03:01.24 | GS42K0 | exit* |
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| 03:02.07 | cizzi | is a initrd.img file in the / directory required? |
| 03:02.15 | cizzi | or just in /boot |
| 03:02.19 | cizzi | where the menu.lst points |
| 03:02.44 | Stevie | I find it unlikely that something needs an initrd.img in / |
| 03:02.47 | Stevie | do you have one there? |
| 03:02.50 | cizzi | yes |
| 03:02.53 | Stevie | well |
| 03:02.58 | jetscreamer | you can put it anywhere, but you have to point whatever at it |
| 03:02.59 | stew | cizzi: which bootloader are you using? |
| 03:03.00 | abrotman | is it a symlink ? |
| 03:03.02 | jetscreamer | iirc |
| 03:03.04 | Stevie | you could try renaming it if your machine doesn't boot |
| 03:03.07 | Stevie | err |
| 03:03.08 | cizzi | and i checked on a test system i have it and has one there too thats why i thought i'd ask |
| 03:03.11 | cizzi | grub |
| 03:03.13 | nathan | it's a link |
| 03:03.18 | Stevie | you could try renaming it and see if your machine doesn't boot |
| 03:03.26 | cizzi | if it dont boot i cant get back |
| 03:03.28 | jetscreamer | the vmlinuz symlink is vestigal |
| 03:03.32 | jetscreamer | from lilo |
| 03:03.35 | x3on | how do i set up NetworkManager to work with XFCE? |
| 03:03.38 | jetscreamer | grub doesn't care aobut it |
| 03:03.48 | stew | cizzi: if you are using grub, you don't need it |
| 03:03.49 | cizzi | so its fine to remove it? |
| 03:03.50 | joh6nn | stew: i'm trying to set up apt-cacher on my lan. the install went fairly smoothly, and it seems to be running just fine. i've got Acquire::http::Proxy “http://my-apt-cacher-box:3142"; in my apt.conf.d directory. however, running apt-get update doesn't return what i expect. instead of sending all repository requests through my apt-cacher box, it only sends some of them. |
| 03:03.51 | cizzi | cool |
| 03:03.52 | cizzi | thanks |
| 03:04.04 | nathan | you can always get back in even if it wasn't |
| 03:04.10 | cizzi | oh ok |
| 03:04.40 | nathan | is there some kind of preseed configurator? |
| 03:04.54 | stew | joh6nn: can you show us your sources.list and tell us which go through apt-cacher and which don't? ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 03:08.55 | joh6nn | stew: sources.list: http://paste.lisp.org/display/53797 , apt-get update's output: http://paste.lisp.org/display/53798 |
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| 03:10.35 | stew | joh6nn: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 03:10.59 | cizzi | ok guys they are just links that point to the initrd and vmlinuz files respectively in /boot |
| 03:11.03 | joh6nn | stew: this is not a ubuntu specific question. it's an apt-cacher specific question |
| 03:11.05 | cizzi | so I can leave those there? |
| 03:11.21 | stew | joh6nn: sorry we don't support ubuntu in here. please ask in #ubuntu |
| 03:11.31 | stew | cizzi: sure |
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| 03:12.41 | lymeca | I'm trying to file a bug report |
| 03:12.52 | lymeca | But submit@bugs.debian.org is rejecting my mail. |
| 03:12.55 | christefano | stew: I bet you're saying that a lot these days |
| 03:15.12 | pickcoder | lymeca: rejection reason? |
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| 03:16.02 | abrotman | "Not a valid bug" :) |
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| 03:16.32 | lymeca | Verification failed (haha abrotman) |
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| 03:17.40 | abrotman | i'd imagine there's more than that |
| 03:17.53 | pickcoder | lymeca: shouldn't you be sending to requests@bugs.debian.org? |
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| 03:18.42 | pickcoder | or use reportbug |
| 03:19.13 | pickcoder | hm |
| 03:19.17 | pickcoder | I see two e-mail formats |
| 03:19.46 | Zloog | 321 |
| 03:21.14 | pickcoder | lymeca: does your user exist at the server that's sending the e-mail? |
| 03:21.27 | lymeca | Yes. |
| 03:21.32 | lymeca | Wait... |
| 03:21.33 | nathan | any way to generate preseed files? |
| 03:21.39 | lymeca | pickcoder: You mean locally? |
| 03:21.53 | lymeca | Will I get spam if I send to the bug report list? |
| 03:21.56 | pickcoder | I mean if the server is doing SMTP sender verification and contacts <domain> |
| 03:22.14 | pickcoder | will <user> exist? |
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| 03:22.37 | pickcoder | [not that I'm suggesting the bug server does] |
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| 03:23.43 | pickcoder | I think it does, however |
| 03:24.08 | dontpanic0 | Hi, I am trying to install debian because a friend said it would work with the raid on my new Asus motherboard (nvraid). I was wondering how to get this working. I configured it in bios but in the partitioner it still appears as 2 separate disks. Help is much appreciated. |
| 03:24.30 | abrotman | you probably want to use dmraid |
| 03:24.32 | abrotman | !nvraid |
| 03:24.45 | abrotman | afaik .. nvraid is still software raid |
| 03:24.56 | pickcoder | lymeca: if you sent the bug as <user>@<domain> then <user> had better be a valid recipient at <domain> |
| 03:25.01 | dontpanic0 | hmm, ok, I was hoping I would be able to boot off it |
| 03:25.05 | dontpanic0 | whats !nvraid mean? |
| 03:25.14 | abrotman | i was trying to trigger the bot |
| 03:25.22 | dontpanic0 | oh |
| 03:25.33 | abrotman | !hi |
| 03:25.33 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 03:25.34 | abrotman | see |
| 03:25.43 | pickcoder | you can use the nv3,4, and I think 5 now chipsets as SATA or AHCO |
| 03:25.45 | pickcoder | AHCI |
| 03:25.51 | venger | dpkg didn't response to my last two keywords but i figured it was just ignoring me |
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| 03:26.29 | pickcoder | I haven't personally tried dmraid, though |
| 03:26.41 | dontpanic0 | Ok, would I be able to get dmraid working to boot from? |
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| 03:29.44 | pickcoder | I don't know much about dmraid. AFAIK it's softRAID and you're better off with SATA mode |
| 03:30.01 | pickcoder | using the installer to setup softRAID |
| 03:30.15 | cafuego | dmraid is in-bios softraid, which is shit, unlike mdraid. |
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| 03:30.39 | nathan | any way to generate preseed files? like in kickstart configurator but for debian |
| 03:30.42 | abrotman | which is softraid .. in the software :) |
| 03:30.49 | abrotman | !preseed |
| 03:30.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, preseed is a method of doing a remote network installation, or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394, or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed |
| 03:30.53 | cafuego | abrotman: OPEN software, that is :-) |
| 03:31.02 | pickcoder | [functional] software |
| 03:31.08 | abrotman | cafuego: nit picking will get you nowhere@! |
| 03:31.20 | pickcoder | I've heard horror storries about NV RAID in various O/S setups |
| 03:31.52 | pickcoder | why not 10? |
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| 03:32.16 | cafuego | 3 disks |
| 03:32.29 | pickcoder | I guess that would a problem then |
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| 03:32.46 | cafuego | Not so much grammar |
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| 03:34.33 | pickcoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:35.10 | GS42K0 | why run-parts? |
| 03:35.12 | pickcoder | that used to look like a lot of space |
| 03:35.29 | pickcoder | now I see 750GB drives |
| 03:35.31 | abrotman | GS42K0: for cron ? |
| 03:35.41 | pickcoder | I think there's even a 1TB now |
| 03:35.51 | GS42K0 | for for script in $(run-parts --list $dir); do |
| 03:35.53 | dontpanic0 | Ok, back for more raid questions... |
| 03:36.04 | dontpanic0 | I can't get the softraid in the setup to work properly |
| 03:36.22 | GS42K0 | so run-parts are without dots lol |
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| 03:36.35 | pickcoder | dontpanic0: more info please |
| 03:36.48 | abrotman | dontpanic0: there's a section about it in the install manual |
| 03:36.56 | pickcoder | there's a manual? |
| 03:37.55 | cloakable | lmao |
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| 03:38.20 | cloakable | pickcoder: There's ALWAYS a manual, and you should read it ;) |
| 03:38.30 | dontpanic0 | Heres what I do (I have 2 sata 320gb hds): First I create a raid partition on each ("physical raid volume" (I think)). Then, I go to configure software raid, select yes, select raid1, and get an error about not having a linux raid partition. Then I select conntinue and go back to the partitioning screen and it says theres a new 320gb raid volume with a 320gb unused partition. |
| 03:38.52 | dontpanic0 | Is there a way to insert new lines in IRC? |
| 03:39.00 | abrotman | dontpanic0: hit enter |
| 03:39.06 | nathan | any way to generate preseed files? like in kickstart configurator but for debian |
| 03:39.35 | pickcoder | nathan: did you look at the link abrotman brought up? |
| 03:39.41 | abrotman | i didn't do it! |
| 03:39.44 | abrotman | oh .. yes i did |
| 03:40.05 | x3on | is it normal for Aptitude to have a more comprehensive output now? Every time i install a package, it holds back this package and conflicts with that package, and asks if i want to settle with this solution "Y/N/q" - i rmemebr it used to just install automatically, now it seems to be more articulate and verbose - normal? |
| 03:40.23 | abrotman | if there's a problem .. yes |
| 03:41.18 | nathan | yes, it's pages about preseed |
| 03:41.24 | nathan | with examples |
| 03:41.35 | pickcoder | x3on: that's normal with aptitude.. instead of botching things or just not installing it's figured out a possible solution, but you have to say "Y" I want to screw this package up... |
| 03:42.06 | pickcoder | x3on: if you pastebin a copy of the output, someone may be able to help |
| 03:42.57 | stew | x3on: this is normal and nothing new |
| 03:43.30 | pickcoder | nathan: another link: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed |
| 03:44.11 | x3on | http://pastebin.com/m3f9c93fc |
| 03:44.14 | x3on | is that normal? |
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| 03:44.30 | x3on | I mean, is there any reason i should review my apps before installing |
| 03:44.38 | pickcoder | I think you missed a char |
| 03:44.43 | pickcoder | or you forgot to paste |
| 03:45.05 | x3on | http://pastebin.com/m3f9c93ec |
| 03:45.07 | x3on | :) |
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| 03:46.29 | pickcoder | x3on: for Etch, libsasl2 is being removed.. libsasl2-2 is replacing it |
| 03:46.38 | pickcoder | apt-cache show libsasl2 |
| 03:47.03 | x3on | i dist-upgraded from etch netinst to lenny |
| 03:47.19 | pickcoder | I would probably install libsasl2-2 first |
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| 03:47.22 | pickcoder | alone |
| 03:47.32 | pickcoder | and see how the depends work out |
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| 03:48.06 | dontpanic0 | Stupid question alert!!! What partition do I want bootable flags on? |
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| 03:49.04 | stew | dontpanic0: doesn't matter |
| 03:49.15 | dontpanic0 | Well, do I want it on /boot? |
| 03:49.20 | dontpanic0 | or /? |
| 03:49.28 | stew | dontpanic0: doesn't matter. lilo / grub ignore them |
| 03:49.57 | dontpanic0 | Well, what do they mean? |
| 03:49.57 | pickcoder | and if it's mdraid they aren't real partitions anyway |
| 03:49.57 | pickcoder | grub will manage it from the MBR |
| 03:50.10 | stew | dontpanic0: they don't mean anything to grub or lilo. they will to other, more simple boot loaders |
| 03:50.26 | abrotman | dontpanic0: they're for other operating systems |
| 03:50.38 | dontpanic0 | Hmm, well I still havn't been able to set up the softraid and I was thinking thats why :S |
| 03:50.39 | pickcoder | ahh... DOS |
| 03:50.44 | pickcoder | the good ole dayz |
| 03:51.00 | dontpanic0 | Do you know the link of the help file about setting up raid in the installer? |
| 03:51.17 | nathan | any way to generate preseed files? like in kickstart configurator but for debian |
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| 03:51.43 | abrotman | pickcoder: i bet on modern hardware .. it actually is quick :) |
| 03:51.50 | nathan | not interested in links about preseed, I know already what it is what it's for how to use it and blah; I'm asking if there's a point and click gui generator |
| 03:51.52 | abrotman | nathan: we already told you .. |
| 03:52.09 | pickcoder | all it does is open COM1 and send ATH0 and ATH1 to a modem |
| 03:52.11 | nathan | i feel like im on crazy pills |
| 03:52.18 | pickcoder | easy door-lock trigger |
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| 03:53.04 | pickcoder | also a great way to re-use 14.4K modems |
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| 03:53.20 | abrotman | pickcoder: 9600 too slow? :) |
| 03:53.35 | pickcoder | nah.. I tossed those many moons ago |
| 03:53.38 | proprietarysucks | stupid internet connection |
| 03:53.54 | proprietarysucks | I'm asking about a gui preseed creator |
| 03:53.57 | abrotman | pickcoder: i think i might have a 2400 in a closet somewhere :) |
| 03:54.12 | pickcoder | I imagine it still works too |
| 03:54.18 | chodebucket | ive got a dead hooker in my closet |
| 03:54.22 | stew | the only modem i keps was a v.everything |
| 03:54.23 | pickcoder | unlike those FakeUARTs you can pick up for $12 |
| 03:54.28 | proprietarysucks | like this: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/ch-redhat-config-kickstart.html but for debian |
| 03:55.03 | abrotman | proprietarysucks: there is nothing in debian .. ask google or freshmeat |
| 03:55.04 | pickcoder | stew: does it do voice? |
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| 03:56.28 | nn64 | im testing ircd can some one join linuxmain.net channel #linuxmain so i know it works please |
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| 03:56.54 | x3on | how do I check which sound card is loaded, so i can blacklist it? |
| 03:57.06 | stew | pickcoder: i don't think so |
| 03:57.23 | pablo | hi, i am using unrar-free and it used to work ok, but now it fails on many files, any idea what can be happening? |
| 03:57.49 | stew | x3on: cat /proc/asound/modules to list the drivers, /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 03:58.45 | dbmoodb | !ntfs-3g |
| 03:58.45 | dpkg | i guess ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. http://www.ntfs-3g.org/. Available in Lenny, but not for Etch except as a backport: see the package page at http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g, backport instructions at http://www.backports.org/. |
| 03:59.29 | Blazer11 | problems starting X (EE) RADEON(0): Unable to map MMIO aperture. No such file or directory (2) |
| 03:59.29 | Blazer11 | (EE) RADEON(0): Memory map the MMIO region failed |
| 03:59.29 | Blazer11 | (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
| 03:59.35 | Blazer11 | any ideas? |
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| 04:03.42 | pickcoder | I found a patch, but no response on it working |
| 04:03.51 | pickcoder | ^^ Blazer11 |
| 04:03.53 | abrotman | for quickbasic? |
| 04:04.20 | Blazer11 | pickcoder is it a .bin? |
| 04:04.50 | pickcoder | yes |
| 04:04.56 | pickcoder | .bin |
| 04:05.47 | dontpanic0 | Do I need logical drives for raid? |
| 04:05.52 | abrotman | not likely |
| 04:05.55 | dontpanic0 | partitions* |
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| 04:06.49 | Blazer11 | i think i tried that patch it falied, du u have the link so i can check |
| 04:06.51 | pickcoder | Blazer11: the only thing I see in reference could be relating to TV-out |
| 04:06.57 | pickcoder | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-October/029199.html |
| 04:07.30 | pickcoder | 800x600 works with TV-out enabled |
| 04:07.36 | pickcoder | any other modes won't |
| 04:07.44 | pickcoder | hrm |
| 04:07.48 | pickcoder | never mind.. that's 2006 |
| 04:07.56 | Blazer11 | pickcoder someway to disable? |
| 04:08.15 | pickcoder | have you tried the vesa driver? |
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| 04:08.53 | Blazer11 | not yet, is performance an issues with vesa? |
| 04:09.21 | pickcoder | performance? |
| 04:09.56 | Blazer11 | ya dri, gl ? |
| 04:10.06 | pickcoder | dunno.. I don't use them |
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| 04:10.33 | Blazer11 | K ill try it and see thanks! |
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| 04:10.42 | pickcoder | there are media gurus here though |
| 04:10.46 | pickcoder | I'm not one of them |
| 04:10.47 | stew | Blazer11: vesa is as basic as it gets. there will be no accelleration or 3d support |
| 04:11.04 | neural | i have a laptop setup with xp on the first partition (made through xp install)... am i able to put debian on the remaining unused diskspace? |
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| 04:11.27 | pickcoder | !dual-boot |
| 04:11.30 | pickcoder | !dualboot |
| 04:11.30 | dpkg | you have two hard drives... only some rich bastard would have more then one hard drive |
| 04:11.36 | pickcoder | smartass |
| 04:11.39 | stew | neural: yes |
| 04:11.40 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 04:11.51 | abrotman | !dual boot |
| 04:11.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, dual boot is This describes a system that can boot to two different operating systems. Some OSs, such as Windows NT and OS/2, allow for dual booting when installed. Of course, you can also use other methods such as commercial programs that install a special boot partition that is capable of launching operating systems from other partitions. You can also boot to more than two operating systems on the same machine. see <dual boot guide> |
| 04:11.53 | abrotman | that? |
| 04:12.03 | Blazer11 | stew any thoughts on above error |
| 04:12.03 | neural | stew: ok cool... i wasnt sure if it would be picky having xp on the first partition |
| 04:12.05 | pickcoder | no... I was lookin for something else... |
| 04:12.09 | pickcoder | heh |
| 04:12.19 | stew | neural: debian doesn't care |
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| 04:12.34 | jhulst | Alright, I switched my hard drives, it booted up fine, but now KDE won't log in, I can ssh in fine, but after I enter my password, it just shoots me back to the login page, any ideas? |
| 04:12.38 | neural | stew: great, cheers |
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| 04:12.57 | stew | Blazer11: show us your xorg.conf that produced those errors ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 04:14.28 | x3on | how do i install manager for audio? |
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| 04:14.35 | x3on | no alsamixer installed |
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| 04:16.04 | abrotman | !installit |
| 04:16.04 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get, or aptitude |
| 04:16.45 | Blazer11 | stew http://pastebin.com/m4922516 |
| 04:20.52 | pickcoder | why is there a standard VGA device? |
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| 04:25.50 | \amethyst | {foo,bar} for alternatives |
| 04:25.53 | \amethyst | :h file-pattern |
| 04:25.56 | \amethyst | doh |
| 04:26.03 | ameyer | not that I'd want to |
| 04:26.05 | hatter | when i have two nics in a machine, how woul i determine which module belongs to which nic ? |
| 04:26.35 | pickcoder | MAC or device ID |
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| 04:26.48 | asg | ameyer: considering that many packages conflict with each other, you couldn't install *all* of Debian |
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| 04:27.15 | hatter | pickcoder, the MAC identifies which eth* it belongs to, but if i dont know which nic is which in a remote machine, how do i determine it ? |
| 04:27.34 | ameyer | asg: as much as is possible |
| 04:28.58 | Nyle | ameyer: what is the average ratio that binary packages are compressed to? how many gb in total compressed packages will you be using? how much do they unpack to, do some math and get an approx # |
| 04:29.08 | Nyle | and don't waste our time with such |
| 04:29.38 | pickcoder | hatter: /dev/crystal_ball or call someone that's physically there |
| 04:29.49 | Nyle | 1:3 is comon, if you install 1gb worth packages, it iwll proabably take 3gb |
| 04:30.05 | pickcoder | I hate dual nic boards for that fact |
| 04:30.14 | pickcoder | I usually install 2 different brand cards |
| 04:30.17 | Nyle | pickcoder: hahah crystal ball |
| 04:30.22 | ameyer | lets see, are all the packages in the DVDs/CDs? |
| 04:30.23 | Nyle | pickcoder: i usually try to have wifi/eth |
| 04:30.43 | Nyle | ameyer: no a lot of them are up my bum |
| 04:30.56 | Nyle | gah! |
| 04:31.07 | pickcoder | hatter: the physical orientation of the RJ45 jacks can be different from manuf to manuf.. so top could be #2 |
| 04:31.17 | ameyer | I think that'd be about 14 GB of binaries per architecture |
| 04:31.42 | Nyle | don't think outloud please |
| 04:31.43 | pickcoder | lspci will tell you what's there, by PCI bus |
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| 04:34.31 | pickcoder | hatter: what I usually do is disable one of the nics in BIOS and then figure out which one it physically is |
| 04:34.37 | pickcoder | then I get the devid from udev |
| 04:34.46 | ameyer | and by "binaries" I mean packages |
| 04:34.53 | pickcoder | the other is easy to guess |
| 04:35.00 | Blazer11 | pickcoder if im using modular xorg, do i still need debian xserver-xorg-core? |
| 04:35.10 | cizzi | as far as debian/linux is concerned, what advantages would it have if it runs on a "server motherboard" vs a desktop motherboard? |
| 04:35.17 | hatter | pickcoder, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net-rules says which hardware address belongs to which driver |
| 04:35.18 | Kornholijo | hello, i was trying to build latest ieee80211/ipw2200 but when trying to modprobe ipw2200 i was getting errors of ieee80211 unrecognized symbols, i tried doing all over again, i removed all modules belonging to them as said in INSTALL but it wont run, luckily i restored the modules so I can ask you now :o |
| 04:35.18 | pickcoder | Blazer11: I dunno.. stew may can answer |
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| 04:35.59 | pickcoder | 70-persistant-net-rules?? |
| 04:36.02 | pickcoder | that's a new one for me |
| 04:36.26 | pickcoder | I've always found it in z25_persistent-net.rules |
| 04:36.31 | Blazer11 | stew? wht u think if using modular xorg, do i still need debian xserver-xorg-core? |
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| 04:37.14 | hatter | pickcoder, yup, my bad, this box is a ubuntu box, all the other boxes i work on are etch |
| 04:37.33 | pickcoder | and people say they're the same.. <g> |
| 04:37.39 | Kornholijo | anyone can help me ;/? |
| 04:37.46 | hatter | those people havent used both :) |
| 04:37.55 | hatter | etch is far better imho |
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| 04:39.14 | hatter | it lists this 0x1106:0x3065 as a PCI location, how does this convert to the pci location in lspci ? |
| 04:39.16 | pickcoder | hatter: look up the manual |
| 04:39.27 | pickcoder | see if there's a port reference for the nics |
| 04:39.31 | pickcoder | #1, #2, etc |
| 04:40.02 | pickcoder | #1 should be ID'd first in lspci |
| 04:40.30 | msan | I've got a TTF font that I'd like to get added to my Debian/testing system. How do I go about doing that ? Its a single TTF file that I've downloaded from a website so that I can read news in my native language. |
| 04:41.05 | pipeline | msan: try adding it to ~/.fonts and restarting your desktop environment |
| 04:41.07 | pickcoder | gotta run for now |
| 04:41.34 | msan | pipeline: don't have a desktop environment, just plain X11/vtwm. no kde/gnome. |
| 04:42.20 | hatter | pickcoder, thx |
| 04:42.30 | Kornholijo | a |
| 04:42.30 | Kornholijo | :o |
| 04:42.55 | pipeline | msan: your loss on that one, kde and gnome can both automate fonts for you :) |
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| 04:43.48 | msan | pipeline: thanks for trying. |
| 04:43.49 | maddash | msan: add it to your /usr/share/fonts, and 'fc-cache' |
| 04:45.09 | msan | maddash: thanks. I think that might be what I'm looking for. |
| 04:45.31 | maddash | it is what you're looking for |
| 04:45.46 | maddash | though I''m not too sure about the directory |
| 04:45.58 | simonrvn | figured out my spamd problem finally... ran sa-learn --force --sync and it fixed the db time out problems |
| 04:46.22 | maddash | msan: now that I've checked, put it in with one of the subfolders in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ |
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| 04:49.55 | Steven_elvisda | !google vpn |
| 04:49.56 | msan | maddash, yes the truetype directory is where I was putting the font. |
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| 04:50.21 | msan | Would I have to restart iceweasel to get the new fonts ? hmmm lets see what happens |
| 04:51.48 | msan | yup, seems like a restart was needed. not a big deal. thanks maddash |
| 04:52.18 | maddash | ssure |
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| 04:56.20 | PiousMinion | Anyone know how I can apply a background image to my console(not xterm)? |
| 04:56.25 | digijohn | Hi; I'm creating a script /etc/init.d/gateway that I need to run on startup; how do I set it up to run at boot? |
| 04:57.05 | martian67 | put a symlink to it in the runlevel |
| 04:57.09 | martian67 | and set it to +x |
| 04:57.14 | digijohn | great, thanks. |
| 04:57.22 | digijohn | Should I name the symlink anything special or just leave it "gateway"? |
| 04:57.26 | martian67 | the numbering infront |
| 04:57.30 | martian67 | pay attention to it |
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| 04:57.39 | martian67 | it determines the execution order |
| 04:57.54 | digijohn | Ok |
| 04:58.05 | digijohn | I want it to run pretty much last, so I'll give it a high number |
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| 04:58.35 | \amethyst | S99gateway then |
| 04:58.46 | \amethyst | digijohn: does the script need to undo anything at shutdown time? |
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| 04:59.49 | bobby__ | hi |
| 05:00.04 | bobby__ | i am having issue with netfinity 5500 ... Can't install debian, i tried acpi parameters and it isn't doing much |
| 05:00.45 | digijohn | amethyst: I don't think it'll be necessary. |
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| 05:03.42 | arubin | what exactly is libgcc used for? |
| 05:04.11 | mortal1 | pardon the offtopicness of this question, but does anyone here remember just where the telnet config file is that sets the port to be used? (yes I know it's insecure) |
| 05:04.14 | arubin | basically, what is the purpose of the gcc-4.1-base package |
| 05:04.37 | mortal1 | arubin: um, compiling c code? |
| 05:04.52 | arubin | mortal: gcc itself is not installed |
| 05:05.01 | mortal1 | oh |
| 05:05.07 | arubin | this package seems to include libgcc and some files in /usr/share |
| 05:05.23 | arubin | I'm new to debian and trying to figure out what all of these packages are that are installed by default |
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| 05:10.28 | christefano | mortal1: it's in the inetd.conf I believe |
| 05:11.11 | christefano | err, make that /etc/services |
| 05:12.24 | arubin | never edit /etc/services |
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| 05:13.04 | bobby__ | anybody own a ibm netfinity 5500 server or similar? |
| 05:13.05 | Guerin | christefano: please don't guess |
| 05:13.15 | Guerin | !anyone use a ibm netfinity 5500 server or similar? |
| 05:13.15 | dpkg | No, no one uses a ibm netfinity 5500 server or similar, not even the people who use it. |
| 05:13.26 | bobby__ | dpkg weeird bot much |
| 05:13.26 | digijohn | Ok, I'm back... so now that I've got a gateway set up, I'm connecting to my VMS machine using Xnest under debian. However, some of the fonts seem to be missing or something--do you guys know what might be up? |
| 05:13.34 | christefano | Guerin: isn't it in /etc/services? besides, I said where I believed it was after nobody else answered |
| 05:13.36 | arubin | if you want to run telnet inetd is a good bet |
| 05:13.45 | arubin | but, don't run telnet |
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| 05:17.45 | Guerin | christefano: belief is for church. |
| 05:18.02 | christefano | good to know |
| 05:18.44 | K|NgGh0sT | I'm trying to unpack a .tgz file and I get the error. tar: Skipping to next header gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 05:18.47 | arubin | christefano: I suggest reading the top of /etc/services |
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| 05:18.49 | K|NgGh0sT | But I know the archive is good |
| 05:19.10 | arubin | K|NgGh0sT: what are you typing? |
| 05:19.25 | K|NgGh0sT | tar -xvzf Images.tgz |
| 05:20.06 | christefano | arubin: I think you mean mortal1 |
| 05:20.15 | arubin | no, I don't |
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| 05:20.58 | christefano | arubin: what's in /etc/services that you suggest that I read? |
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| 05:21.33 | arubin | nm |
| 05:21.57 | K|NgGh0sT | arubin, that's the right syntax right? |
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| 05:22.04 | arubin | K|NgGh0sT: appears so |
| 05:22.29 | arubin | K|NgGh0sT: what does file Images.tgz return? |
| 05:22.49 | arubin | hmm, file may not be installed by default in debian |
| 05:24.06 | K|NgGh0sT | Whatcha mean? |
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| 05:25.04 | arubin | there is a command "file" that attempts to determine what kind of file you have |
| 05:25.10 | arubin | but it doesn't appear to be installed by default |
| 05:25.44 | arubin | did you download the tarball from somewhere? |
| 05:26.01 | Guerin | !info bin/file |
| 05:26.02 | K|NgGh0sT | No |
| 05:26.08 | K|NgGh0sT | I created it before I formatted |
| 05:26.10 | Guerin | bah |
| 05:26.15 | Guerin | !find bin/file |
| 05:26.22 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/file' (9 of 22): (/usr/bin/file) in utils/file ;; (/usr/bin/file65) in devel/xa65 ;; (/usr/bin/filepp) in text/filepp ;; (/usr/sbin/filesnarf) in net/dsniff ;; (/usr/bin/file2) in misc/file-kanji ;; (/usr/bin/filelight) in kde/filelight ;; (/usr/bin/filezilla) in net/filezilla ;; (/usr/sbin/filetraq) in admin/filetraq ;; (/usr/sbin/filefrag) in admin/e2fsprogs. |
| 05:26.22 | K|NgGh0sT | if I lost this data then I'm gonna go cry |
| 05:26.31 | Guerin | info file |
| 05:26.33 | Guerin | !info file |
| 05:26.35 | dpkg | file: (Determines file type using "magic" numbers), section utils, is standard. Version: 4.21-4 (sid), Packaged size: 38 kB, Installed size: 128 kB |
| 05:27.00 | Guerin | standard, but not base. So it should be installed unless you forced aptitude to quit instead of installing useful things |
| 05:27.03 | Guerin | like file, and less |
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| 05:27.29 | arubin | well, I didn't install any of the additional packages beyond the minimum |
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| 05:27.35 | Guerin | evidently |
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| 05:28.48 | gholm | I've got a good stable install now, lots of tweaks and cron scripts running. What is my best option to back up the system, but not all my own file data (which is backed up elsewise)? |
| 05:29.11 | Guerin | gholm: depends on your needs. |
| 05:29.36 | K|NgGh0sT | Anyone know where unzip.c is stored? |
| 05:29.53 | Guerin | K|NgGh0sT: it isn't, by default, in debian. |
| 05:29.58 | mortal1 | arubin: so if i change it in /etc/services, it changes the port it gets assigned to? |
| 05:30.09 | gholm | Guerin: OK, I need a copy of my operating system as it is today, so if my system disk dies, I can reload debian from dvd and run my restore and have my system back |
| 05:30.12 | Guerin | mortal1: NO, changing /etc/services changes NOTHING |
| 05:30.23 | Guerin | gholm: bitwise or filewise? |
| 05:30.32 | K|NgGh0sT | Cause I was trying to follow http://www.gzip.org/recover.txt |
| 05:30.44 | gholm | Guerin: what's the diff? |
| 05:30.57 | mortal1 | Guerin: let me guess, it's just a list of common ports? |
| 05:31.13 | arubin | mortal: do not modify /etc/services |
| 05:31.15 | Guerin | mortal1: why guess, when you can read the same in the file? |
| 05:31.19 | arubin | mortal: ever |
| 05:31.20 | Guerin | !guess |
| 05:31.20 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, guess is a hypothesis based on nothing |
| 05:31.55 | arubin | also, do not run telnet |
| 05:32.27 | Guerin | gholm: a bitwise backup takes an image of a whole filesystem, bit-for-bit identical. THis is good if you want to restore everything back to the same media from which it came, but can weaste a lot of space. Filewise just copies the files, which you can put back however, but there are a couple of caveats. |
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| 05:33.36 | Guerin | K|NgGh0sT: this is probably beyond you. unzip.c is a source file which you edit, then build. If you're not a programmer I'd find someone who is to do it for you. |
| 05:33.37 | mortal1 | arubin: well I think the only thing i can do is change that inet conf file to pass the -debug option |
| 05:33.39 | gholm | Guerin: caveats being "if hardware changes" |
| 05:33.48 | mortal1 | and let that use 80 |
| 05:34.09 | Guerin | gholm: if the hardware changes, restoring a bitwise backup can work, but be annoying. |
| 05:34.26 | arubin | mortal: why do you want to run telnet? |
| 05:34.29 | Guerin | gholm: the caveats on the filewise method are nothing to do with hardware. |
| 05:35.13 | mortal1 | mortal because ssh is apparently blocked at the packet level on a particular network |
| 05:35.36 | K|NgGh0sT | Guerin, I know C/C++ |
| 05:35.43 | mortal1 | I usually get around that by hosting ssh on 443 so it looks like https |
| 05:35.43 | Guerin | mortal1: that's absolutely no reason at all to use hellnet, and in fact will probably get your arse fired (and rightly so) |
| 05:36.02 | Guerin | K|NgGh0sT: sweet. apt-get source gunzip, go to town. |
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| 05:36.12 | mortal1 | Guerin: I said "a network" not my job |
| 05:36.19 | mortal1 | lets just go with the theoretical |
| 05:36.37 | Guerin | mortal1: ok. Theoretically, you don't ever want to run telnet for anything, ever. |
| 05:36.46 | gholm | Guerin: OK, what caveats then? |
| 05:37.03 | mortal1 | theoretically, if ssh was blocked at the packet level, and you needed ssh, how would you do it? |
| 05:37.19 | arubin | mortal: what do you mean "blocked at the package level"? |
| 05:37.25 | arubin | you think the firewall can determine ssh traffic? |
| 05:37.35 | Guerin | mortal1: ssh can't really be blocked at packet level. |
| 05:37.43 | Guerin | it's just random streams of bytes |
| 05:37.44 | mortal1 | arubin: I'm fairly certain it does |
| 05:37.51 | mortal1 | well, i should explain |
| 05:38.11 | mortal1 | I usually host ssh on 443 so it looks like a nice little https connection |
| 05:38.27 | mortal1 | but that doesn't work on this network |
| 05:38.37 | arubin | have you tried port 80? |
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| 05:38.40 | Guerin | gholm: some files, links and such don't taske kindly to being copied and restored. You're usually good using rsync -a, cp -a or tar with the right options. You need to read a bit about backups. |
| 05:39.13 | Guerin | mortal1: start by finding out which ports will receive inbound traffic of any sort. |
| 05:39.18 | mortal1 | arubin: honestly no, but i doubt it would change things |
| 05:39.37 | mortal1 | Guerin: the open ports are 80 443 and 21 |
| 05:39.52 | arubin | so telnet isn't even available |
| 05:39.52 | Guerin | mortal1: hosting something on 443 won't be worth a damn if it's disallowing unsolicited inbound. |
| 05:40.58 | mortal1 | if i connected to an external host running ssh on 443 then it wouldn't be unsolicited would it? |
| 05:41.09 | Guerin | mortal1: i would use ssh's bind function on this - by which you ssh out to a free box which runs a daemon which forwards connections to the locked-down box. I've done this from behind a block-everything-for-any-reason firewall before. |
| 05:41.10 | gholm | Guerin: I do get basics on Backup, but I wanted to hear recommendations on Filestsm only. Would be good to compare what work I've done to the install DVD and only back up that. |
| 05:41.10 | mortal1 | pardon, i didn't mean to sound smart assy |
| 05:42.07 | Guerin | mortal1: oh, you can't make outbound connections |
| 05:42.14 | mortal1 | Guerin: correct |
| 05:42.19 | Guerin | mm, troublesome |
| 05:42.26 | mortal1 | I don't want to host a server inside the network |
| 05:42.36 | \amethyst | set up an ssh server outside the network on port 443 |
| 05:42.39 | Guerin | oh, i see |
| 05:42.39 | mortal1 | I just want to connect to my box while within the network |
| 05:42.45 | mortal1 | lol |
| 05:42.51 | mortal1 | I did that |
| 05:42.57 | \amethyst | then ssh through that and use forwarding to get to other places |
| 05:42.58 | mortal1 | still blocked |
| 05:43.03 | \amethyst | oh really? |
| 05:43.07 | mortal1 | yes |
| 05:43.11 | Guerin | i'd probably use a privoxy or something else to wash connections through |
| 05:43.43 | Guerin | i have the samething at work, but I've not bothered to circumvent it (because having ssh at work would mean I never get anything done) |
| 05:44.06 | mortal1 | which is why i believe it's blocked at packet level, i mean how else would it know that encrypted traffic on 443 is ssh and not secure http |
| 05:44.17 | Guerin | a http -> ssh gate would be nice, but horribly insecure |
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| 05:44.27 | mortal1 | Guerin: well, that's the thing, I have massive ammounts of down time at work |
| 05:44.30 | \amethyst | Guerin: not if you still encrypt stuff |
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| 05:44.50 | \amethyst | mortal1: you could try httptunnel maybe? |
| 05:44.50 | Guerin | \amethyst: i'm not talking about the crypto being insecure; I'm talking about the architecture |
| 05:44.50 | arubin | I imagine you can tell https and ssh apart by the start of the connection |
| 05:44.56 | gholm | Guerin: Webmin has a "settings" backup, which could be the go. Will test it out on a blank system and see if that's what I need. |
| 05:45.02 | Guerin | eesh |
| 05:45.07 | mortal1 | I've looked into solutions such as anyterm, but their servers are horribly slow |
| 05:45.11 | Guerin | gholm: no webmin |
| 05:45.22 | Guerin | gholm: another thing to never ever use for anything |
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| 05:45.30 | Guerin | gholm: just use tar |
| 05:45.43 | gholm | Guerin: why not webmin? |
| 05:45.53 | Guerin | gholm: because it's horribly broken and crap |
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| 05:47.14 | Guerin | mortal1: woo, anyterm looks like it might be fun |
| 05:47.20 | Guerin | you could run it on your own box |
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| 05:47.42 | mortal1 | Guerin: yes, but installing and configuring everything would be a major pita |
| 05:47.59 | mortal1 | maybe a weekend project though |
| 05:48.02 | Guerin | i dunno, you could probably have done it in the number of keystrokes you've expended here now |
| 05:48.06 | gholm | Guerin: Ok but , my experience with it has been good, serves its purpose |
| 05:48.14 | Guerin | gholm: good luck. |
| 05:49.06 | cizzi | when compiling vanila kernel versions if it normal to get many warnings? even when it compiles... ? |
| 05:49.21 | Guerin | !warnings |
| 05:49.21 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 05:49.39 | cizzi | lol |
| 05:49.41 | cizzi | allright |
| 05:49.51 | cizzi | \amethyst - hows it going? |
| 05:50.10 | mortal1 | well alrigty |
| 05:50.14 | mortal1 | nite folks |
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| 05:50.26 | Guerin | dpkg, lol is also http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/091607/every-time-you-lol.gif |
| 05:50.26 | dpkg | cannot alter locked factoids, Guerin |
| 05:50.32 | Guerin | DAMNYOUTOHELL |
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| 05:50.59 | maddash | haha |
| 05:51.17 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: can you add http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/091607/every-time-you-lol.gif to the lol factoid? I think you will observe it is righteous. |
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| 05:53.27 | lostsanity | so uh.. feel kinda stupid asking this, what's the path to the desktop? |
| 05:53.53 | \amethyst | cizzi: going okay... classes start Wednesday here |
| 05:54.00 | K|NgGh0sT | I followed the install instructions for nvidia drivers off the forum, but they don't seem to be working. Everytime I start GDM it just errors out, can someone walk me through Nvidia driver install on sid? |
| 05:54.01 | Penix | lostsanity: what are you talking about? ~/Desktop? |
| 05:54.05 | \amethyst | lostsanity: usually ~/Desktop (where ~ represents your home directory) |
| 05:54.59 | Guerin | K|NgGh0sT: never use random interweb instructions to install nvidia |
| 05:55.06 | lostsanity | hm, that's what i thought but that doesn't seem to be working |
| 05:55.09 | Guerin | K|NgGh0sT: instead, /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 05:55.29 | lostsanity | i did something very stupid while attempting to install nvidia drivers >> |
| 05:55.37 | lostsanity | and now ave no GUI |
| 05:55.42 | lostsanity | have* |
| 05:55.49 | Penix | sucks doing stupid stuff, huh? |
| 05:55.56 | K|NgGh0sT | To be fair, it was http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=10812&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
| 05:55.57 | K|NgGh0sT | heh |
| 05:56.00 | lostsanity | indeed |
| 05:56.08 | Guerin | installing nvidia drivers in the first place is Very Stupidâ„¢ |
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| 06:03.02 | cizzi | is a chroot jail a confined shell in a directory that you populate with files/binaries you want the user to "see"/"access" ? |
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| 06:04.00 | Supaplex | !tell cizzi about chroot |
| 06:04.07 | Penix | cizzi: it can be |
| 06:04.15 | cizzi | i read on wiki |
| 06:04.19 | cizzi | but its not very detailed |
| 06:04.39 | Supaplex | the chrooted process(es) see that new location as their / |
| 06:04.50 | cizzi | like a virtual / ? |
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| 06:05.17 | Penix | cizzi: if you like |
| 06:05.19 | Guerin | but only for a single process (or shell, and its child processes) |
| 06:05.31 | simonrvn | which wiki? |
| 06:05.41 | cizzi | i typed wiki chroot in google |
| 06:05.44 | cizzi | the 1st result |
| 06:05.48 | Penix | heh |
| 06:06.01 | simonrvn | which means what to me? |
| 06:06.11 | Guerin | simonrvn: RandomWiki |
| 06:06.14 | cizzi | hang on i'll get you the link |
| 06:06.25 | cizzi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot |
| 06:06.27 | Guerin | like asking people down at the bus station for stockmarket advice |
| 06:06.36 | simonrvn | ah RandomWiki, i see... amongst thousands ;) |
| 06:07.01 | simonrvn | ah, wikipedia |
| 06:07.13 | simonrvn | thank you for clearing that up |
| 06:07.16 | cizzi | np |
| 06:07.18 | cizzi | :) |
| 06:07.51 | cizzi | is it pointless to put more than 4gb ram in a linux server? |
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| 06:08.03 | cizzi | you wouldnt be able to use it with 32bit and 64 bit is a pain |
| 06:08.13 | Penix | cizzi: if you say so |
| 06:10.55 | braindump03 | hum, any hints for converting *.img disk images to *.iso? |
| 06:11.40 | Penix | braindump03: what sort of filesystem is in the .img file? |
| 06:11.48 | Blazer11 | im getting the following error with current ati driver http://pastebin.com/m35f7227d |
| 06:11.55 | Supaplex | cizzi: as far as ram, 4gb works fine in 64bit, or works in 32bit pae (check for pae support), w/o it, you loose a few hundred mb to PCI resources (like io mmap) |
| 06:12.03 | braindump03 | Penix, i think, ufs |
| 06:12.11 | braindump03 | s/think/guess/ |
| 06:13.03 | Supaplex | braindump03: I've never see anyway, save for a mac, to convert mac .img images. |
| 06:13.43 | braindump03 | Got one at home. |
| 06:13.47 | braindump03 | But i need it NOW. |
| 06:14.02 | Supaplex | good luck :) |
| 06:14.14 | Penix | braindump03: what are you trying to do? make a magical, bootable iso out of some random img file? |
| 06:14.30 | cizzi | sup - so you're saying in 32bit if i have 4gb i will loose a few hundred mb right? |
| 06:14.33 | braindump03 | Found a way. Create a .ccd and use ccd2iso. |
| 06:14.45 | braindump03 | Penix, nope, need to mount that .img in virtualbox |
| 06:15.11 | braindump03 | Works :) |
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| 06:15.22 | Penix | cizzi: yes, your OS won't be able to see/use all 4G |
| 06:15.33 | cizzi | penix - thats still pretty good though |
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| 06:15.42 | simonrvn | 'lose' |
| 06:15.50 | cizzi | linux will perform very well with roughly 3-4 gb |
| 06:16.07 | Penix | it'll perform very well with all sorts of amounts of ram |
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| 06:16.26 | cizzi | only diff with more ram is it will load more of the os into it right? |
| 06:16.38 | simonrvn | eh? |
| 06:16.42 | BraWearerSamuel | I am a man and wear bras out in public and don't care who sees it! |
| 06:16.46 | Penix | unable to parse |
| 06:16.49 | simonrvn | it'll swap less... |
| 06:16.50 | BraWearerSamuel | I wore a bra out in public to the mall today under just a t-shirt |
| 06:16.59 | Supaplex | I have 2600284kb cached of 4gb (amd64) |
| 06:17.00 | Penix | *sigh* |
| 06:17.13 | BraWearerSamuel | I am a guy who likes to wear bras, anyone else here share the same hobby? |
| 06:17.14 | Penix | !ops BraWearerSamuel is an idiot |
| 06:17.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: penix complains about: BraWearerSamuel is an idiot |
| 06:17.19 | simonrvn | BraWearerSamuel: that's nice, now go troll somewhere else, plskthxbye |
| 06:17.49 | BraWearerSamuel | :( |
| 06:17.53 | BraWearerSamuel | nothing wrong with it... |
| 06:18.01 | simonrvn | my /opme doesn't work here ;) |
| 06:18.08 | BraWearerSamuel | well |
| 06:18.10 | BraWearerSamuel | i wear bras |
| 06:18.10 | Nyle | hey |
| 06:18.11 | BraWearerSamuel | and like it |
| 06:18.12 | BraWearerSamuel | so |
| 06:18.12 | ManuP | how save is it to install fuse and add a user to group fuse? |
| 06:18.17 | Penix | BraWearerSamuel: doesn't matter what we think. we don't care. this is #debian, not #crossdressing |
| 06:18.27 | Nyle | I just saw I am Legend and I don't know what to make of it |
| 06:18.37 | simonrvn | i wanna see that |
| 06:18.48 | Nyle | its good I guess |
| 06:18.50 | BraWearerSamuel | well |
| 06:18.55 | BraWearerSamuel | anyone know of any good bra wearing sites or chats |
| 06:19.01 | BraWearerSamuel | i am not a crossdresser i just wear bras under male clothes |
| 06:19.06 | Penix | I've been meaning to see it. I don't particularly like Will Smith though |
| 06:19.09 | cahoot | from one OT to another |
| 06:19.12 | BraWearerSamuel | crossdressers wear panties and girdles and crap like that |
| 06:19.22 | simonrvn | Nyle: someone's been reading/listening to prophecies again :P (the makers of that movie) |
| 06:19.30 | arubin | I am Legend is not worth paying movie theater prices to see |
| 06:19.31 | Nyle | simonrvn: hehe |
| 06:19.43 | Nyle | arubin: my dealer burned a dvd screener copy |
| 06:19.43 | Penix | nothing is worth paying theater prices these days |
| 06:20.01 | BraWearerSamuel | so |
| 06:20.01 | BraWearerSamuel | what are some good bra wearing sites |
| 06:20.06 | simonrvn | BraWearerSamuel: read about plonk from the bot |
| 06:20.13 | Nyle | everyone type /ignore BraWearerSamuel |
| 06:20.20 | simonrvn | !plonk |
| 06:20.20 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, plonk is the sound that a name makes when hitting the ignore list or or killfile. Plonk is British and Canadian slang for cheap wine. "Rodney, you plonker." |
| 06:20.24 | ManuP | arubin, is i am legend soo bad? |
| 06:20.31 | kloeri | BraWearerSamuel: stop trolling please |
| 06:20.36 | arubin | ManuP: it is meh |
| 06:20.38 | arubin | not really bad |
| 06:20.40 | arubin | just not really good |
| 06:20.43 | ManuP | arubin, i was in avp2... this wasnt worth :/ |
| 06:20.43 | arubin | there isn't much to it |
| 06:20.47 | Supaplex | just /ignore the twit and be done with it. |
| 06:21.08 | arubin | they are already working on a sequel |
| 06:21.21 | BraWearerSamuel | I am a guy and wear a bra as often as I can and out in public all the time |
| 06:21.23 | BraWearerSamuel | I am a man and I love wearing bras. |
| 06:21.35 | arubin | do you have man boobs? |
| 06:21.44 | ManuP | :D |
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| 06:21.52 | arubin | uh oh |
| 06:21.52 | *** mode/#debian [+b %BraWearerSamuel!*@*] by kloeri |
| 06:21.52 | simonrvn | arubin, Nyle: so what exactly is "chasing" will smith in there? they look like humans, but with some odd disease |
| 06:21.55 | *** mode/#debian [-o kloeri] by kloeri |
| 06:22.00 | simonrvn | weee, thank you |
| 06:22.14 | arubin | simonrvn: basically zombie vampires |
| 06:22.17 | arubin | and yes, it is a disease |
| 06:22.25 | arubin | it is based on a book |
| 06:22.27 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 06:22.29 | ManuP | i love zobies and vampiers |
| 06:22.40 | Nyle | i love debian |
| 06:22.41 | arubin | apparently this is about the third time a movie has been made from the book |
| 06:22.51 | Nyle | #movies |
| 06:22.55 | simonrvn | what's the book title? |
| 06:22.58 | arubin | not sure |
| 06:23.01 | Nyle | #books |
| 06:23.04 | arubin | imdb should tell you |
| 06:23.09 | Nyle | #imdb |
| 06:23.12 | simonrvn | #Nyle ;p |
| 06:23.14 | Nyle | seriously man |
| 06:23.17 | Nyle | hehe |
| 06:23.26 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 06:23.29 | Nyle | you da man |
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| 06:27.21 | arubin | well, they exist, but there are like 2 people in them |
| 06:28.37 | screamingbytes | lol |
| 06:28.52 | Penix | think of the ice cream! |
| 06:28.53 | screamingbytes | you'd rather yap about books on irc than read them ? |
| 06:29.13 | arubin | yes |
| 06:29.25 | Nyle | i think people do that in real life too |
| 06:29.25 | arubin | I quite enjoy the NPR Books podcast actually |
| 06:29.26 | elky | the irony of that nick debate blows my mind |
| 06:29.30 | Nyle | its called one of them lame book clubs |
| 06:30.06 | screamingbytes | well i did attend a book club for davinci code but that was the first and possibly the last |
| 06:30.11 | Penix | I spend more time searching for games for discontinued consoles than I do actually playing the things |
| 06:30.13 | arubin | actually NPR Books is really interesting |
| 06:30.16 | arubin | very good author interviews |
| 06:30.27 | Nyle | Anne Rice |
| 06:30.42 | Nyle | Stephen King, Poppy Z. Brite |
| 06:30.49 | screamingbytes | evolution |
| 06:30.54 | arubin | http://www.alternativereel.com/includes/top-ten/display_review.php?id=00075 |
| 06:30.56 | Nyle | and I love me some Dragonlane and Shannara |
| 06:30.57 | screamingbytes | mutt |
| 06:30.58 | arubin | I mean look at that |
| 06:31.02 | arubin | that is interesting and book related |
| 06:31.32 | Guerin | oh dear |
| 06:31.41 | Guerin | computer geeks discuss books |
| 06:32.20 | Nyle | Guerin: would you rather I discussed Shred? |
| 06:32.22 | Nyle | ;) |
| 06:32.30 | elky | Guerin, wait until they start discussing 'outside' |
| 06:32.52 | Guerin | elky: anyone can speculate about the unknown |
| 06:32.58 | elky | meanwhile, isnt this a support channel? |
| 06:33.06 | Nyle | its supposed to be |
| 06:33.12 | Guerin | Nyle: discussing shred is like dancing architecture? |
| 06:33.18 | elky | is there an offtopic or chat channel? |
| 06:33.23 | Nyle | Guerin: heh |
| 06:33.26 | Guerin | (with apologies to a musician better than any shredder who ever lived) |
| 06:33.37 | Nyle | hahaha |
| 06:34.04 | simonrvn | no one's asking questions |
| 06:34.18 | elky | dondelelcaro, heh, it doesnt show up in the channels list |
| 06:34.19 | Nyle | I can ask one if you want |
| 06:34.49 | simonrvn | no matter |
| 06:37.01 | screamingbytes | :) |
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| 06:45.24 | JeffH | I have /dev/.static/ on my debian system and rkhunter is warning about it. Anyone know what the point of /dev/.static/ is? |
| 06:46.08 | Penix | JeffH: rkhunter's obviously making a big deal about nothing |
| 06:46.29 | JeffH | probably true. Just wondering what /dev/.static/ is for? |
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| 06:47.16 | Penix | JeffH: it's the original /dev before udev mounts its dynamic stuff afaik |
| 06:48.13 | JeffH | what about /dev/.udev and /dev/.initramfs ? |
| 06:50.01 | Penix | JeffH: list their contents. seems pretty obvious |
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| 06:50.03 | simonrvn | first one is udev related the other is initrd related |
| 06:50.09 | Penix | in the .udev case anyway |
| 06:50.57 | JeffH | so there's nothing unusual about those? |
| 06:51.02 | Penix | no |
| 06:51.19 | Penix | they're supposed to be there. whether or not someone has done something evil involving them is up to you to find out |
| 06:51.32 | JeffH | good.. now I'll figure out how to tell rkhunter to ignore them. |
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| 07:02.27 | Penix | hmm. removing ram made a box faster...nice |
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| 07:02.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | thats just wtisted |
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| 07:05.29 | beowulf007 | is there a command line pdf reader? |
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| 07:06.29 | \amethyst | beowulf007: xpdf-utils contains "pdftotext", but that is of course rather limited |
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| 07:13.57 | PythonNinja | dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `mpd' in statoverride file << i've long since removed mpd, and the user mpd, where is this statoverride file? the dpkg man pages don't reference it |
| 07:13.57 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, PythonNinja |
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| 07:17.10 | PythonNinja | btw that was an error from an apt-get install, not a message aimed at the chan bot |
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| 07:19.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | PythonNinja, can you pastebin the whole error please? |
| 07:19.49 | Penix | PythonNinja: /var/lib/dpkg |
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| 07:28.17 | Penix | bah. different sticks of ram dying in different machines *has* to be because of this frigging weather |
| 07:28.43 | Penix | has nothing to do with my complete disregard for adequate cooling measures of course |
| 07:29.23 | cafuego | Blame the humidity |
| 07:29.26 | cafuego | or the cockroaches |
| 07:29.49 | Supaplex | !blame technology |
| 07:29.57 | Penix | that's the plan. didn't think of the cockroaches though. I saw a big one on the wall this morning. damn them all to hell! |
| 07:30.31 | Penix | it outsmarted my murder attempt too. better watch my back |
| 07:31.17 | Supaplex | I wonder how they react to immersion in an ultrasonic cleaner basin for a few minutes :) |
| 07:31.17 | cafuego | where Penix lives they grow to the size of house cats |
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| 07:31.28 | yang | cafuego: lol |
| 07:31.32 | cafuego | Supaplex: Same as everything else, makes them breed. |
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| 07:31.39 | Penix | and you're lucky to make it to 12 without losing a limb to one |
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| 07:32.20 | Supaplex | Penix: good news, lolroach.com is available |
| 07:32.22 | Penix | oh ffs. I've got a dead disk on my hands now |
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| 07:33.08 | cafuego | Penix: that's what bad ram will do to ya |
| 07:33.41 | Penix | all I gots is scsi drives too...stupid hba doesn't fit in this silly micro atx 'htpc' style case too |
| 07:34.18 | Penix | bleh. there's half a bottle of scotch sitting behind me. I'm off |
| 07:34.19 | Supaplex | dead hardware suxors :`( |
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| 07:35.32 | cafuego | Penix: i'll swap you that htpc case |
| 07:35.51 | cafuego | coz the large grey myth tower next to the tv looks naff |
| 07:36.08 | Guerin | http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/063007/twenty-year-old-libertarians.gif # TPFD owns you |
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| 08:00.56 | GS42K0 | ok. now I've written a dhclient-exit-hooks to avoid the sourcing . but my scripts are being run two times when I restart dhclient |
| 08:01.36 | GS42K0 | with a small delay |
| 08:01.49 | GS42K0 | max one second as it seems |
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| 08:05.20 | GS42K0 | two times are better than one but it still puzzles me hehe |
| 08:05.32 | GS42K0 | better than zero* |
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| 08:08.39 | Penix | I can't think of a single reason why spending $800 on an electric drumkit is *not* a fantastic idea |
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| 08:09.00 | Penix | I need to find some more ways to justify it |
| 08:09.01 | GS42K0 | sounds low noise |
| 08:09.14 | Penix | sounds like I'd never leave my house |
| 08:10.02 | GS42K0 | you wont need to mic it up |
| 08:10.08 | Penix | midi baby |
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| 08:11.43 | GS42K0 | good for a cheap ok quality drum studiom Penix |
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| 08:12.57 | Penix | all I've got atm is an old school '80s drum pad |
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| 08:13.12 | Penix | among all the other crap |
| 08:13.20 | wal | What is a good way to "export" a login (xterm) so you can login to your debian machine from a web browser? |
| 08:13.32 | Penix | wal: you don't do that |
| 08:13.40 | wal | other suggestions? |
| 08:13.55 | Penix | wal: is there a reason why you can't access an ssh client? |
| 08:14.07 | wal | yes. internet cafe |
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| 08:14.47 | Penix | wal: a quick google for something like 'ssh+web interface' would probably give you an idea |
| 08:15.08 | wal | not much useful stuff there |
| 08:15.16 | GS42K0 | you could print `sh $r->param('cmd')` it wal |
| 08:15.23 | GS42K0 | with CGI |
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| 08:16.17 | wal | GS: that would make it a "plain" text page...i was hoping to have it in an applet somehow |
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| 08:16.33 | GS42K0 | then get a java ssh wal |
| 08:16.33 | Penix | wal: funny, I've found ways to do what you described already. just from google |
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| 08:17.33 | wal | Penis: drop a name ? |
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| 08:18.01 | wal | GS: java ssh isn't ideal. i want everything to go over port 80 too |
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| 08:19.32 | GS42K0 | thats an option wal. to listen on port 80 instead |
| 08:19.46 | GS42K0 | can't you putty wal? |
| 08:19.47 | wal | me web server is on that port! |
| 08:20.10 | GS42K0 | oh. so you want a ssh proxy wal |
| 08:20.13 | wal | yea putty no good. want putty in an applet :D |
| 08:20.28 | GS42K0 | :D |
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| 08:20.36 | Penix | you just said java isn't 'ideal' but you want an applet now |
| 08:21.04 | wal | referring to ssh for java |
| 08:21.35 | GS42K0 | ssh1 or 2 ? |
| 08:21.49 | wal | 2 |
| 08:21.59 | GS42K0 | then you also need DSA |
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| 08:22.29 | wal | actually...how did we get onto ssh at all?? i just want the login screen to appear in a java applet |
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| 08:22.49 | Penix | wal: how do you expect 'the login screen' to appear? |
| 08:22.52 | Guerin | wal: anyterm |
| 08:22.56 | GS42K0 | without java wal? |
| 08:23.10 | wal | thanks |
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| 08:24.47 | wal | GS: 'without java wal?' are you taking the miki ? |
| 08:25.23 | GS42K0 | not optimal |
| 08:25.43 | wal | Guerin: very niaarce thanks |
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| 08:26.57 | Guerin | wal: i suggest you defuckerise your keyboard. |
| 08:27.06 | wal | done |
| 08:27.39 | Supaplex | my tired eyes groked that as deficate haha |
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| 08:31.35 | GS42K0 | ok. it's only when I restart dhclient3. when it gets a new lease it only run my exit-hooks one time :) |
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| 08:33.39 | |zeal| | hi |
| 08:34.45 | GS42K0 | hey zeal |
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| 08:35.42 | GS42K0 | reverse sh hahaha |
| 08:35.52 | perfector | how can i let sites pass without getting through privoxy? |
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| 08:36.19 | GS42K0 | just turn off your proxy settings perfector |
| 08:36.45 | GS42K0 | or make some filters |
| 08:37.23 | |zeal| | perfector: if you are using firefox, proxyfoxy will do the job |
| 08:37.25 | GS42K0 | internet explorer has filters |
| 08:37.30 | perfector | GS42K0: no just like specify in config file and privoxy does not touch it. |
| 08:38.06 | perfector | |zeal|: i only use privoxy |
| 08:38.24 | perfector | its gr8 real lightweight stuff |
| 08:38.28 | GS42K0 | so you go with the dirty label lol |
| 08:38.51 | GS42K0 | are you using tor as well perfector? |
| 08:38.56 | |zeal| | perfector: well, no idea of privoxy :P |
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| 08:39.02 | perfector | GS42K0: no tor |
| 08:39.15 | GS42K0 | only privoxy, ok |
| 08:39.26 | perfector | |zeal|: what do u use for a proxy? |
| 08:40.00 | |zeal| | perfector: to get through the great wall of our country |
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| 08:40.11 | GS42K0 | i use my browser cache perfector |
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| 08:40.35 | perfector | sites like orkut.com and cricinfo.com do an immediate redirect and privoxy does not like that? |
| 08:40.35 | |zeal| | perfector: actually, I only use tor without privoxy :P |
| 08:40.50 | perfector | |zeal|: no i meant do u use a proxy? |
| 08:40.59 | perfector | |zeal|: aha |
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| 08:41.16 | GS42K0 | giggly |
| 08:41.33 | skankster | hello together,I've a question about ip aliasing..... |
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| 08:41.41 | |zeal| | perfector: I mean I realy need a proxy outside our country to visit wikipedia |
| 08:42.05 | |zeal| | skankster: go ahead, :) |
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| 08:42.13 | perfector | |zeal|: oh... only wikipedia? y is that? |
| 08:42.17 | Guerin | |zeal|: there are plenty of open http proxies |
| 08:42.26 | Guerin | perfector: google great firewall of china |
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| 08:42.53 | GS42K0 | yes. and website proxies |
| 08:42.56 | skankster | I'm using debian lenny / kernel 2.6.22-3-686 / Do I have to recompile my kernel with ip_alias to get a IP alias working? |
| 08:42.59 | Guerin | when I lived in northeast asia, I set up a privoxy on my texas box for this very purpose |
| 08:43.03 | |zeal| | Guerin: yeah, you are right, but some times these proxies fails, tor is a longterm choice |
| 08:43.12 | Guerin | |zeal|: yes, it is. |
| 08:43.25 | Guerin | tor is the win |
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| 08:43.35 | skankster | @ zeal thanks for listening ;I) |
| 08:43.42 | perfector | Guerin: pls help me with getting a site without going thru privoxy's filters |
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| 08:44.03 | Guerin | perfector: which site? and why can't you access it normally? |
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| 08:44.23 | |zeal| | skankster: well, I did not promise I can perfectly solve your problem |
| 08:44.27 | |zeal| | lol |
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| 08:45.04 | perfector | Guerin: orkut.com cricinfo.com.. these sites do an immediate redirect which freaks out privoxy |
| 08:45.13 | Guerin | ah |
| 08:45.13 | |zeal| | Guerin: yep, tor is great, :) huge thanks to the inventor |
| 08:45.19 | Guerin | stupid redirects |
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| 08:45.57 | Guerin | perfector: anonym.to? |
| 08:46.00 | Guerin | and so on |
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| 08:46.28 | perfector | Guerin: sorry i didnt understand that |
| 08:46.40 | Guerin | oh, it's just for links |
| 08:46.42 | Guerin | ignor me |
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| 08:47.19 | skankster | @ |zeal| okay sounds good ;) / but am I right with my speculation to recompile the kernel with ip_alias? |
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| 08:48.04 | perfector | i really do not want to change my proxy to anything else.. privoxy is just too good.. |
| 08:48.15 | Guerin | run two |
| 08:48.17 | |zeal| | skankster: what kind of function do you really need, NAT or sth else ? |
| 08:48.20 | Guerin | squid might work |
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| 08:48.39 | Guerin | iu don't care for sites which do stupid trickery rather than just servin' me up mah pages |
| 08:48.41 | perfector | Guerin: squid's heavy for my machine |
| 08:48.57 | perfector | Guerin: i tried it once.. there is no question abt 2 lol |
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| 08:49.31 | skankster | I've two webservers / one is already on debian lenny / I need to get the IP of the other one as an alias on the debian lenny server... |
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| 08:50.42 | GS42K0 | perfector: maybe they use redirects for decentralized cluster maps |
| 08:51.00 | perfector | GS42K0: maybe.. |
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| 08:52.33 | |zeal| | skankster: I think you may need full_nat support |
| 08:53.04 | GS42K0 | iptables and such |
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| 08:53.20 | eth01 | gentoo has wgetpaste, what does debian have? (i can't find anything.) |
| 08:53.36 | |zeal| | !nat |
| 08:53.36 | dpkg | Network Address Translation. See also <ipmasq>, or patented by CISCO, or ipmasq is not exactly like NAT, the former is more flexible while the latter gains widely recognition. See also <netfilter docs> or $BROWSER /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1, or http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/what-nats-break.html, or configured easily with a GUI using either the 'guidedog' or 'guarddog' packages. |
| 08:54.04 | GS42K0 | or perl |
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| 08:54.44 | skankster | |zeal| : are you sure? I want to do a simple : ifconfig eth0:0 IP netmask up .... |
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| 08:55.08 | appelza | how can I convert a normal plaintext password to what'l be in /etc/passwd ? |
| 08:55.35 | GS42K0 | with the passwd tool |
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| 08:56.00 | |zeal| | skankster: well, it seems that I need to fully understand your requirement |
| 08:56.02 | bb4 | Hello all. I have a problem with my filesystem that is mounted as readonly, when I try to remount it says "block device /dev/sda5 is write-protected, mounting read-only". Where could this come from ? |
| 08:56.05 | appelza | any other way? :] |
| 08:56.22 | |zeal| | skankster: you have a machine A, a machine B and then ..... ? |
| 08:56.23 | GS42K0 | some cipher |
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| 08:56.57 | bb4 | ops, seems it's a disk problem, nervermind |
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| 08:57.30 | |zeal| | Magick211: A installed with lenny and you need it has two IPs ? eth0 and eth0:0 ? |
| 08:57.47 | |zeal| | sorry Magic211 |
| 08:57.57 | |zeal| | skankster: A installed with lenny and you need it has two IPs ? eth0 and eth0:0 ? |
| 08:58.12 | jan | bb4: external media? |
| 08:59.00 | jan | some usb sticks have switch for read only |
| 08:59.23 | skankster | |zeal| : okay I've two exactly equal Webservers / the requests on the webpage are splitted on this two / I already updatet one of them from freebsd to debian lenny / now I need to update the other one / for this / i need to redirect all requests to the debian lenny server (IP Alias) |
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| 08:59.37 | skankster | |zeal| : correct! |
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| 08:59.58 | sts | hello folks! |
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| 09:00.30 | GS42K0 | maybe you can cheat and use htpasswd for it appleza |
| 09:00.44 | sts | is there any debian util which could be used to create a small gui for a shell script asking a user some questions, to configre the script...? |
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| 09:01.14 | |zeal| | !kommand |
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| 09:02.07 | |zeal| | skankster: oh, that seems simple, if your using the official lenny kernel ,it's ok, no need to make your own kernel |
| 09:02.09 | skankster | sts: dialog |
| 09:03.27 | sts | thx |
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| 09:03.33 | GS42K0 | appelza or better yet perl -e 'print crypt "password", "sa"' |
| 09:04.13 | GS42K0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.14 | |zeal| | sts: in X other alternatives are xdialog, kdialog, zenity |
| 09:04.50 | GS42K0 | appelza, how is the file formatted? |
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| 09:04.57 | HSorgYves | morning |
| 09:05.08 | HSorgYves | can i use ls to only show the access permissions and the filename? |
| 09:05.41 | Thurisaz | hi all |
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| 09:06.31 | |zeal| | skankster: did you make the trick now ? |
| 09:07.01 | GS42K0 | appelza, probably you could say perl -ne 'print crypt $2, $1 if $_ ~= /^.*?\s.*$/' heh |
| 09:07.11 | kingsley | Is there a command line utility that can tell a modem to dial a phone number? |
| 09:07.17 | GS42K0 | with your pass file as the heh |
| 09:07.19 | cusco | HSorgYves: like ls -l |
| 09:07.36 | |zeal| | HSorgYves: Good afternoon :) |
| 09:07.42 | Thurisaz | I'm in big trouble :( I have Debian+ext2fs and I got this FS error Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs |
| 09:07.59 | HSorgYves | cusco: well that lists group/owner/date etc. as well, i only want permissions and file |
| 09:07.59 | cusco | ouch |
| 09:08.02 | cusco | why? |
| 09:08.19 | cusco | HSorgYves: you would have to use something like cut |
| 09:08.25 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: check your partition layout and make sure you've passed correct root= to boot loader |
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| 09:08.40 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: sorry, in boot loader config |
| 09:08.41 | Thurisaz | I have installed Lilo |
| 09:08.51 | HSorgYves | |zeal|: on Internet its always morning |
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| 09:09.32 | Thurisaz | now i'm using Knoppix to repair Debian |
| 09:09.37 | |zeal| | HSorgYves: Oh, I am a irc newbie, forgive me :P |
| 09:10.17 | Thurisaz | i don't have access to /dev/sda1 which is the root |
| 09:11.01 | HSorgYves | |zeal|: ;-) |
| 09:11.07 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: you have initrd? if your system is using udev , the /dev/ is empty at boot time |
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| 09:11.22 | HSorgYves | cusco: ok |
| 09:11.46 | cusco | HSorgYves: actually I tried using cut with delimiter " " but the spaces can vary from line to line |
| 09:12.05 | |zeal| | skankster: hey, are u still there, buddy ? |
| 09:12.08 | cusco | meaning.. I dunno how to use awk |
| 09:12.18 | skankster | |zeal| : tried it one more time / made a ifconfig em0 down on the freebsd system / and a ifconfig eth0:0 IP BROADCAST NETMASK up on the debian system / the second IP address is not reachable.... |
| 09:12.32 | Thurisaz | I'm thinking about fsck, but there is possible to loose data |
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| 09:13.32 | skankster | |zeal| : sorry was testing.... |
| 09:13.44 | |zeal| | skankster: sometimes you need to config route, paste the ifconfig to me pls |
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| 09:14.19 | skankster | |zeal| : of which system? |
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| 09:14.36 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: the lenny, the system you gonna put online |
| 09:15.00 | |zeal| | sorry |
| 09:15.21 | Thurisaz | i have Sarge I think |
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| 09:15.27 | |zeal| | @skankster: |
| 09:15.33 | Thurisaz | this is not mine server |
| 09:15.44 | |zeal| | skankster: the lenny, the system you gonna put online |
| 09:15.53 | skankster | |zeal| : One moment, maybe i found it / trying one more time.... |
| 09:15.59 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: sorry, I was talking to skankster :P |
| 09:16.06 | Thurisaz | ok |
| 09:16.30 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: well, ext2 will always need to fsck if it's uncleanly umounted |
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| 09:17.27 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: actually any fs needs to do that, even the so called journaled ones like xfs, |
| 09:17.59 | Thurisaz | |zeal|, do you know how to enter in single user mode via LILO? |
| 09:18.09 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: kernel .... -s |
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| 09:18.27 | yang | Does debian contain php agi package http://phpagi.sourceforge.net/ |
| 09:18.28 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: sorry, that's for grub |
| 09:18.35 | bb4 | somebody plz, what's the name of the command to check an ext3 disk ? |
| 09:18.52 | Penix | bb4: fsck |
| 09:18.55 | Thurisaz | hm, |
| 09:18.57 | Penix | or fsck.ext3 |
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| 09:19.00 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: God, I have abandon lilo for so long ..... |
| 09:19.04 | bb4 | Penix thks |
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| 09:20.38 | Thurisaz | |zeal|, I'm not a linux user more than 1 year, I have experience only with GRUB on Linux |
| 09:21.37 | harpal | whats shortcut to lock the screen? |
| 09:21.55 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: np, grub is all good, say good bye to lilo :) |
| 09:22.00 | Penix | Thurisaz: you just add single to the end of the kernel image line afaik |
| 09:22.01 | Thurisaz | I moved to FreeBSD and OpenBSD |
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| 09:22.31 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: they are both cute too :) |
| 09:22.50 | |zeal| | Thurisaz: although I never used, ha |
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| 09:23.09 | |zeal| | harpal: ctrl+alt+L |
| 09:23.33 | harpal | |zeal|, thanks |
| 09:23.46 | |zeal| | harpal: that's for KDE |
| 09:24.00 | |zeal| | harpal: don't know the effect on others :) |
| 09:24.02 | harpal | no it works on Gnome |
| 09:24.11 | harpal | I have Gnome no kde |
| 09:24.14 | GS42K0 | it works with gnome too zeal |
| 09:24.37 | |zeal| | harpal: well, at least they don't bite each other on how to lock screen :D |
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| 09:26.21 | |zeal| | Dinner time~~~, cu everybody, back in 2 hours |
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| 09:27.45 | bb4 | Then eat well and have a good time :) |
| 09:27.51 | bb4 | heheh cu all |
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| 09:29.36 | HSorgYves | cusco: |
| 09:29.54 | HSorgYves | cusco: ls -la | cut -c-10,54- |
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| 09:30.38 | pingouin | hello |
| 09:30.47 | HSorgYves | but it is not always working :-( |
| 09:30.57 | hax0red_mem | what's the command for the script to configure x in etch? |
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| 09:31.11 | hax0red_mem | i have a new graphics card, and i need to set x up again... |
| 09:31.19 | pingouin | someone can lead me to some usb wifi receipter, working easily on linux/debian ? please, thanks |
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| 09:33.09 | hax0red_mem | anyone know the command to configure x? |
| 09:33.23 | dimir | Morning! |
| 09:33.45 | streuner__ | !drxx hax0red_mem |
| 09:33.45 | dpkg | hax0red_mem: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
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| 09:33.53 | hax0red_mem | ty |
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| 09:34.05 | GS42K0 | cusco: ls -la | perl -pe 's/\s.*?:.*?\s//' works too lol |
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| 09:36.06 | GS42K0 | cusco: you can even add a space between the last // |
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| 09:36.49 | PiousMinion | Is there an easy way to have apt remove all packages from a certain repo? |
| 09:36.59 | streuner | no |
| 09:37.18 | streuner | just re-install and backup the important data first? |
| 09:37.37 | streuner | Which repo do you like not? |
| 09:38.28 | streuner | PiousMinion: there should be a chance to write a script about, but i think nobody done this yet |
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| 09:39.11 | PiousMinion | I installed compiz-fusion from the shame repo and I'm trying to make sure al of it is removed before I install stock etch compiz |
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| 09:39.36 | yang | Does debian contain php agi package http://phpagi.sourceforge.net/ |
| 09:39.53 | streuner | !+tell yang -about search |
| 09:39.55 | dpkg | told yang about search. |
| 09:40.36 | streuner | PiousMinion: search about date and compiz in dpkg.log |
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| 09:40.58 | streuner | PiousMinion: (what did you install with that too --> depends) |
| 09:41.13 | yang | streuner: i cannot find php agi hit |
| 09:42.16 | PiousMinion | thanks |
| 09:42.29 | harpal_ | some how my system roots paswords has changed so how to change that? |
| 09:42.32 | streuner | PiousMinion: apt-cache policy <package> is a chance to verify where the package comes... |
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| 09:42.43 | jetscreamer | 'somehow'? |
| 09:42.53 | jetscreamer | !i forgot root's password |
| 09:42.53 | dpkg | 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting to make one appear), 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) reboot -d -f (exec /sbin/init should work); For GRUB (e.g. etch, sarge): in step 1, press 'e' to edit the kernel setting (add init=/bin/sh to the end of it), 'b' to boot. Steps 2-6 are the same. |
| 09:43.02 | harpal_ | That I dont know how it got changed |
| 09:43.12 | streuner | .oO |
| 09:43.32 | streuner | look at rkhunter or such then |
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| 09:44.51 | jetscreamer | reboot -d -f... |
| 09:45.28 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 09:47.07 | jetscreamer | so reboot -f just restarts linux, not the computer? and so wtf is a wtmp record? |
| 09:47.33 | streuner | man wtmp |
| 09:47.40 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 09:48.54 | jetscreamer | gah |
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| 09:49.27 | jetscreamer | looks like c to me |
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| 09:51.26 | suwro | hello |
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| 09:52.29 | streuner | jetscreamer: wanna take a bath ;-) http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/foto/99e532d6_elektriek.JPG |
| 09:52.43 | streuner | (its a fake, btw) |
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| 09:53.31 | suwro | I have a silly question, I am not familiar yet with openvpn, what I want is to use openvpn for samba only on 3 pc, is it possible to set openvpn just for samba? or when i set openvpn all routing goes to master vpn ? |
| 09:54.16 | suwro | 3 subnets 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 |
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| 10:03.36 | Steven_elvisda | everyone know about linux BGP? |
| 10:04.36 | morfff | i need help with mysqld .... ( it worked before, no changes in config file - not by me :P) - anyone can help me? |
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| 10:07.36 | pingouin | someone can lead me to some usb wifi receipter, working easily on linux/debian ? please, thanks |
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| 10:10.11 | Maulkin | pingouin: http://atmelwlandriver.sourceforge.net/usbtable.html |
| 10:10.32 | Maulkin | Or http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+usb+wifi |
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| 10:13.14 | filipe__ | I've been having a booting problem for a while without a satisfactory solution. How can I select a boot disk without using device names that can change from boot to boot? |
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| 10:14.07 | Maulkin | Well, sorting your booting problem would be easier... |
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| 10:16.27 | Maulkin | Or if not, look at UUIDs |
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| 10:20.49 | badcfe | i tend to forget what package contains the man pages for dev like pselect fprintf etc.. |
| 10:22.46 | badcfe | whats the name of the package that contains man for development |
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| 10:23.19 | badcfe | is there sone debian util that could help me with this, or a web page? |
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| 10:24.15 | Knight_Lord | badcfe apt-find maybe |
| 10:24.50 | suwro | badcfe: apt-get search man development |
| 10:24.57 | suwro | oops |
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| 10:25.03 | suwro | apt-cache search man development |
| 10:25.21 | badcfe | thanks |
| 10:25.42 | badcfe | hmm. then i have enother question that is not so debian relevant |
| 10:26.06 | suwro | badcfe: is it linux relevant? then ask it! |
| 10:26.09 | badcfe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:26.38 | suwro | badcfe: make clean perhaps? |
| 10:26.42 | badcfe | how would i accomplish surch a local clean of the autoconf hell |
| 10:27.05 | badcfe | maybe its enough, but i dont think so, cause its the makefile thats created in the first place |
| 10:27.21 | badcfe | and this makefile may be outdated, since i fiddled with my sys |
| 10:27.29 | suwro | badcfe: run configure again - with your new options - it will overwrite |
| 10:27.59 | suwro | badcfe: you can always do configure --help |less |
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| 10:29.25 | peppo | is the icedove maintainer in here? |
| 10:29.36 | badcfe | suwro: thanks. i seem to not have any option for cleanup in this configure script. |
| 10:30.27 | suwro | badcfe: then youre lucky ;) - simply use configure --yournewoptions and it will overwrite your old config |
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| 10:31.44 | Maulkin | pingouin: Just ask your question. |
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| 10:32.41 | suwro | pingouin: what do you mean - plug & run device? |
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| 10:36.47 | |zeal| | !etch->lenny |
| 10:36.48 | dpkg | First, see <apt-listbugs>. Next, edit sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny'. Save the file, then update and dist-upgrade. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. NOTE: you should be running a 2.6 kernel before trying to upgrade |
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| 10:39.12 | vlt | Hello. I want to create a second PPPoE connection w/ a different DSL modem. Can I connect the new modem to the same eth device as the first one? Should I create a new virtual eth0:0 device, for example? |
| 10:39.24 | harpal | I have changed my password but I cant do login with su |
| 10:39.38 | harpal | it tells me Authentication failure |
| 10:40.15 | liable | harpal: /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 10:40.32 | liable | vlt: cant you just name the connection a different name? |
| 10:41.34 | harpal | liable, I have done that but when I reebot and do normal login and than do su in terminal than it shows me error |
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| 10:43.05 | liable | harpal: hmm, this is after an upgrade? |
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| 10:43.23 | harpal | no I havent upgrade an thing |
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| 10:44.26 | liable | can you log in as root (not su) ? |
| 10:44.41 | Lord_Devi | Hello. This is probably a common question recently, but I can not get nvidia-kernel-source from any lenny repository now, and following instructions from the forums i have tried to use nvidia-stuffs from Sid, but to no avail. Is there a solution to this? |
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| 10:45.23 | harpal | liable I can login as root on terminal but not terminal with x session |
| 10:45.43 | vlt | liable: Yes, but where does pppd know which modem to talk to? |
| 10:46.13 | liable | vlt: what do you mean? how can you have both hooked up to one ethernet card? |
| 10:46.32 | vlt | liable: An ethernet switch? |
| 10:46.33 | liable | harpal: start x without a DM and try |
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| 10:47.14 | liable | vlt: ok, then yeah, i guess an alias would be the go (dunno if you can actually do it.. but that sounds like the way to go) |
| 10:47.47 | vlt | liable: I thought the E in PPPoE stands for pure and transparent ethernet that can be switched on MAC layer ... |
| 10:48.13 | liable | vlt: dunno |
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| 10:48.25 | harpal | liable When I try to login with su in console its not working and if I login with root than it works on console |
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| 10:50.07 | liable | harpal: i am not familiar with the inner workings of pam, so I am not going to be of much help without searching about this myself, and seeing as I just got back from a week of work, I am going to leave that task to you ;) |
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| 10:50.56 | harpal | liable, ok np thanks |
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| 10:52.50 | voxluna | my ident/auth stopped working. if I use nullidentd, which uses inetd.conf, what is the proper way to restart inetd -- with /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart? |
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| 10:53.28 | liable | yep |
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| 10:54.09 | voxluna | liable, that's what I tried, but it still failed to respond (on IRC for example). I checked the router, of course, and it seems OK. and when I use oidentd, which is a daemon, it works. just not in inetd.conf. |
| 10:54.35 | Terfy | any of you use initng ? |
| 10:54.38 | voxluna | ...as a wrapper, I guess |
| 10:54.52 | liable | voxluna: hmm, does it show as running in netstat output? |
| 10:55.11 | irix | Hello there. after an upgrade from lenny to sid, synaptic has been removed and when I want to install it I got this error: http://pastebin.com/d54404e2c. Any help? |
| 10:55.27 | voxluna | no, and that was another thing I checked. very strange. at first I thought it was portsentry tampering with it (it opens all kinds of ports) but that wasn't it either. |
| 10:55.59 | liable | voxluna: run the inetd init script with bash -x, see where it fails |
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| 10:56.40 | voxluna | OK, lemme take a look, thx. |
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| 10:57.59 | liable | irix: thats what happens with sid. you need to learn how to live with it, or work around it. Thats why we don't suggest people use it if they dont have reasonable dpkg foo |
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| 10:59.10 | liable | voxluna: daemon.log may also give an error or two if its a bad config line |
| 10:59.48 | martian67 | is there a generic way to wrap a program in linux to force it to bind to a different ip than the default route? |
| 10:59.49 | irix | liable: I'm using SID at home for a while, but I didn't have this problem at home. I wonder why it happens today on my new PC at work. |
| 11:00.49 | liable | irix: if its a new install, it prolly didnt have synaptic to start with, so it wont hold the old package. thats life, use aptitude untill its fixed.. |
| 11:01.15 | liable | martian67: elaborate |
| 11:01.53 | moshii | irix: I'd suggest just using aptitude anyhow.. |
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| 11:02.52 | irix | liable: ok, thanks |
| 11:03.27 | gonzaloaf | hi, an application to make video dvds? |
| 11:03.35 | streuner | !stew++ |
| 11:04.17 | liable | gonzaloaf: dvdrip, k3b, dvdbackup, k9copy, growisofs, and probably many more.. |
| 11:04.19 | liable | streuner: why? |
| 11:04.52 | gonzaloaf | liable, does k3b allows create dvd menus? |
| 11:05.07 | liable | gonzaloaf: create or copy? |
| 11:05.23 | gonzaloaf | liable, create |
| 11:05.37 | streuner | liable: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 11:05.50 | liable | gonzaloaf: I dont think thats easy. I know its possible, but I dont think its very simple. |
| 11:06.17 | liable | streuner: eh? |
| 11:06.33 | vlt | Yesterday, someone (from .ro) in another channel suddenly told me something like "your apache version is vulnerable, you should update it, trust me!" but couldn't (or didn't want to) explain further. Any idea? |
| 11:06.49 | streuner | liable: /msg dpkg factinfo why aptitude |
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| 11:07.17 | liable | streuner: doesnt appear to have been changed significantly lately |
| 11:07.43 | voxluna | liable, hmm it doesn't do anything but run inetd using the config in /etc. and no errors in the logs, apparently. it used to work, and I didn't change anything about it AFAIK. weird. |
| 11:08.01 | voxluna | liable, it doesn't do anything with bash -x ... |
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| 11:08.19 | liable | voxluna: when you use netstat, are you searching for the port or identd, cause it will be running as inetd |
| 11:08.37 | perfector | vlt: looks like more of the apache being vulnerable jokes are getting famous |
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| 11:09.03 | voxluna | liable, maybe I'm not using it right. netstat -a -A inet? |
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| 11:09.24 | liable | voxluna: netstat -plunt (is what i use to see daemons) |
| 11:10.41 | voxluna | liable, neat. well, no inetd. maybe it's not running. the nullident is the only thing in there, so I wouldn't notice. wonder why, tho. it should show up in ps axf right? |
| 11:11.00 | liable | as inetd yeah |
| 11:11.51 | liable | voxluna: did you edit the conf yourself, or did apt add identd to inetd's conf file? |
| 11:12.16 | voxluna | well, both. this last time, apt used update-inetd I assume. |
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| 11:12.39 | liable | odd. check for bugs for both daemons i guess |
| 11:12.41 | voxluna | maybe I need start and not reload. but I dunno why it'd be dead. |
| 11:14.05 | vlt | perfector: ok :) |
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| 11:14.28 | voxluna | liable, that's the damndest thing. well, I got ident from something else, just not that daemon. thx for the ideas tho. |
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| 11:17.32 | voxluna | apt karma liable X++ |
| 11:17.32 | apt | liable x++ has neutral karma |
| 11:17.43 | voxluna | hmm, that's not right. |
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| 11:18.02 | Agiofws | hi i am using lenny |
| 11:18.18 | Agiofws | echo powersave > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor <---- anyone know why this command will not execute in rc.local ? is it in the right syntax ? is it it the right file ? do i have to make a special rc file for it ? |
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| 11:18.39 | liable | Agiofws: /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 11:18.49 | Agiofws | liable, ? |
| 11:18.54 | Agiofws | what does that do ? |
| 11:18.56 | liable | read the man page for it for syntax |
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| 11:19.32 | jelly | liable: how does one change stuff in /sys with sysctl? |
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| 11:20.02 | jelly | liable: nb, /sys, not /proc/sys |
| 11:20.36 | jubei | hello. I am trying to figure out which debian version I am running. any way to figure that out? |
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| 11:21.26 | jelly | !tell jubei -about version |
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| 11:21.52 | liable | jelly: fucked if I know, my governor setting used to be in there.. |
| 11:22.09 | ootput | hi guys, I'm just curious, are there any debian-based distros out there that have 686 compiled packages rather than 386? |
| 11:22.20 | jelly | liable: when, 2004? |
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| 11:22.42 | liable | jelly: no, last year some time |
| 11:22.50 | jubei | jelly: thanks! |
| 11:23.24 | jelly | it is somewhat amusing that sysctl does not, in fact, handle /sys (afaik) |
| 11:23.27 | jubei | I am trying to install a package in my system called ccd2iso but I really dont know how to find it. How do I find if a package like that exists for my version (etch) |
| 11:23.41 | liable | jelly: i am pretty sure it does |
| 11:23.42 | |zeal| | ootput: hi, if you compiled the whole distribution to 686 , I'd love to have a try :) |
| 11:23.46 | monsieur | !tell monsieur -about version |
| 11:24.02 | jelly | liable: any idea of when they added it? |
| 11:24.10 | liable | jelly: nope |
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| 11:26.53 | Agiofws | liable, i've read the man page and read the sysctl.conf ok what do i do now ? |
| 11:27.00 | Agiofws | can you help ? |
| 11:27.46 | jubei | guys I am trying to install a package called ccd2iso but doesnt exist for etch. what do i do? |
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| 11:28.12 | liable | Agiofws: sure, as soon as i remember what I have done |
| 11:28.14 | themill | !tell jubei about simple sid backport |
| 11:28.28 | Agiofws | jubei, download compile it or use backports repositories |
| 11:28.34 | Agiofws | ok liable |
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| 11:28.54 | themill | ootput: you do, of course, realise that debian's i386 branch isn't compiled for 386 anyway, and that glibc and the kernel are both optimised for i686? |
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| 11:30.30 | liable | Agiofws: for some reason I have my governor set in the cpufrqutils init script now, though I dont remember adding it there |
| 11:30.42 | jubei | Agiofws: I will try the backports repositories but to compile it i cant since it requires a later version of glibc |
| 11:31.43 | liable | i guess the install script for that asked me. I am damn sure I used to have it in sysctl.conf last install though, and in my own init script before that.. |
| 11:32.27 | Agiofws | why does it not work though in rc.local ? |
| 11:32.36 | liable | it should |
| 11:32.43 | zamba | what's the "debian way" of enabling ip forwarding? |
| 11:32.58 | Agiofws | and i don't get a dmesg "message" in that |
| 11:32.59 | streuner | zamba: there isnt one, IIRC |
| 11:33.01 | liable | zamba: for basic internet sharing, install ipmasq |
| 11:33.09 | streuner | zamba: /msg dpkg ipmasq |
| 11:33.14 | |zeal| | I found a funny thing with dpkg in this channel |
| 11:33.18 | |zeal| | hah |
| 11:33.19 | acemi | zamba: I use shorewall and I configure it from shorewall config file |
| 11:33.22 | |zeal| | !sex |
| 11:33.22 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 11:33.34 | Agiofws | zamba, echo 1 > /proc/sys/ip/forward ... something like that and put it in rc.local ? |
| 11:34.17 | zamba | Agiofws: don't like that approach |
| 11:34.27 | |zeal| | !love zamba |
| 11:34.30 | Agiofws | lol |zeal| |
| 11:34.38 | zamba | *purr* |
| 11:34.51 | |zeal| | :D |
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| 11:36.30 | zamba | damn it.. i have lots of in_world_* and out_world_* stuff in my netfilter.. is this firehol's doing? |
| 11:36.41 | liable | jelly: indeed I am not going mad, and you can add it in sysctl.conf. The config file for it has changed since I last looked at it though |
| 11:36.58 | |zeal| | zamba: what should be |
| 11:37.08 | |zeal| | s/what/that |
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| 11:37.18 | zamba | |zeal|: never seen it before |
| 11:37.22 | zamba | new in? |
| 11:37.42 | |zeal| | zamba: you are using some new software like firewall config frontend ? |
| 11:37.56 | zamba | |zeal|: i was looking at firehol, but quickly removed it |
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| 11:38.39 | |zeal| | zamba: seems like it has already configured your system :) |
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| 11:39.14 | zamba | |zeal|: damnation :) |
| 11:39.30 | zamba | oh well, they are unused |
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| 11:40.16 | |zeal| | zamba: you can flush them out manually |
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| 11:41.33 | zamba | |zeal|: yeah, doing that now |
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| 11:43.21 | |zeal| | !love zamba |
| 11:43.34 | |zeal| | !love all |
| 11:43.41 | dimir | :-O |
| 11:43.53 | |zeal| | dpkg is soooooo strong |
| 11:44.04 | martian67 | if i assign an ip address to an interface that also is the same ip the default route is pointing to |
| 11:44.12 | martian67 | and i attempt to use it |
| 11:44.15 | liable | |zeal|: please try and refrain from abusing the bot too often |
| 11:44.17 | martian67 | will it route properly? |
| 11:44.41 | martian67 | i mean, that interface has the default route ip |
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| 11:44.47 | |zeal| | liable: ok, just a joke :P |
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| 11:45.03 | PiousMinion | what is the proper way to run fsck on my system partition? |
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| 11:45.26 | liable | PiousMinion: touch /forcefsck then reboot |
| 11:46.01 | crumblenaut | can i use the shellscript test command to test the return status of an external command? i.e. nc -w3 ? |
| 11:46.01 | |zeal| | PiousMinion: boot with a live cd and fsck is an alternative |
| 11:46.29 | dimir | crumblenaut: basically, yes. If it returns 0 on success. |
| 11:46.49 | |zeal| | crumblenaut: and non-zero on failure |
| 11:47.16 | mbroeker | martian67, if your nic has ip 192.168.178.1 and a default route of 192.168.178.1 everything is fine. you will be able to ping all hosts in the same network 192.168.178.0 but nothing more (except 127.0.0.1) |
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| 11:47.47 | martian67 | mbroeker, but if i assign that same nic an ip of 192.168.178.2 |
| 11:47.48 | dimir | crumblenaut: oh, just tested it, you can't. |
| 11:47.55 | martian67 | and attempt to use it |
| 11:48.05 | martian67 | will it route properly? |
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| 11:48.23 | martian67 | or do i need a virtual interface? |
| 11:48.25 | dimir | crumblenaut: I usually do it without test like this: if ls badfasdf; then echo OK; else echo FAILED; fi |
| 11:48.33 | crumblenaut | dimir: do you know another way i can test a connection to a server via a bash script? ping will do.. |
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| 11:49.28 | dimir | crumblenaut: if ping -c1 localhost > /dev/null; then echo OK; else echo FAILED; fi |
| 11:49.35 | crumblenaut | thanks |
| 11:49.45 | dimir | np |
| 11:49.56 | mbroeker | martian67, if your nic has ip 192.168.178.2 and a default route of 192.168.178.1 everything is fine. you will be able to ping all hosts in the same network and you can access the networks, .1/24 is connected to. |
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| 11:50.08 | martian67 | dude |
| 11:50.10 | dimir | crumblenaut: But I'd improve it to do more pings and fail only if all pings fail. |
| 11:50.12 | martian67 | thats not what im asking |
| 11:50.16 | martian67 | im asking if say |
| 11:50.34 | martian67 | i have a NON-local ip of |
| 11:50.35 | mbroeker | dont call me dude. i am serious. |
| 11:50.36 | martian67 | like say |
| 11:50.42 | clamiax | Does anyone runs FreeRadius with EAP/TLS support? |
| 11:50.45 | martian67 | 24.24.24.25 |
| 11:51.03 | martian67 | that being the default route |
| 11:51.10 | martian67 | and then i attempt to assign it 24.24.24.46 |
| 11:51.13 | |zeal| | crumblenaut: if you have ssh access to that host, you can do this : |
| 11:51.17 | martian67 | will it route properly? |
| 11:51.24 | crumblenaut | its ok the single ping will do, its only an internal network |
| 11:51.25 | jelly | dimir: hmm, if ! nc -w1 -q3 machine 5555 < /dev/null; then; exit 1; fi --- works for me |
| 11:51.45 | azeem-uni | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.47 | azeem-uni | oops |
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| 11:53.54 | |zeal| | touch /tmp/not_linked |
| 11:53.55 | |zeal| | ssh server "ssh client 'rm /tmp/not_linked' " >/dev/null 2>&1 & |
| 11:53.55 | |zeal| | sleep 10 |
| 11:53.55 | |zeal| | [ -e /tmp/not_linked ] || bababal.... |
| 11:53.55 | |zeal| | babababa..... |
| 11:53.55 | |zeal| | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:55.02 | dimir | crumblenaut: tries=3; failed=0; for ((i=0; i<$tries; i++)); do if ! ping -c1 localhost > /dev/null 2>&1; then ((failed++)); fi; done; if [ $tries == $failed ]; then echo FAILED; else echo OK [failed $failed of $tries]; fi |
| 11:57.18 | dimir | crumblenaut: http://pastebin.com/m54802de8 |
| 11:57.25 | |zeal| | touch /tmp/not_linked ;ssh server "ssh client 'rm /tmp/not_linked' " >/dev/null 2>&1 & |
| 11:57.26 | |zeal| | ; sleep 10 ; [ -e /tmp/not_linked ] || bababal.... ; babababa else..... |
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| 12:01.06 | gonzaloaf | !nvidia |
| 12:01.06 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. |
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| 12:01.37 | gonzaloaf | hi, are nvidia legacy drivers been removed from the lenny repos? |
| 12:01.50 | Madkinde1 | greetings. after system upgrade some of daemons (exim, slapd, apache2) refused to start for some reason. I them with strace and figured out that each of them hangs on futex(0xb7b66548, FUTEX_WAIT, 2, NULL |
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| 12:04.05 | Madkinde1 | does anybody have any clue what's the reason of such behavior? I tried googling and found lots of links describing similar problems but no one provided any solutions :( |
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| 12:05.52 | themill | Madkinde1: what did you upgrade? |
| 12:06.24 | Madkinde1 | I did : aptitude update && aptitude upgrade |
| 12:06.51 | Madkinde1 | as far as I know the kernel got upgraded |
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| 12:07.53 | Madkinde1 | right now I'm running 2.16.18-5-686 |
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| 12:08.54 | gkk | hey |
| 12:09.02 | gkk | is it possible to make dynamic symlinks ? |
| 12:09.21 | themill | Madkinde1: and you're running etch and your sources.list is debian etch repos? |
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| 12:09.43 | gkk | like ln -s ~/dir/<mygroup> /opt/share/<mygroup> |
| 12:09.45 | jubei | guys how can I make my etch unstable? |
| 12:09.54 | gkk | and when i change users group then link changes too |
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| 12:10.39 | Madkinde1 | themill: yes |
| 12:10.50 | jubei | the reason is that I want to run this package: http://packages.debian.org/ccd2iso and a backport doesnt exist |
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| 12:12.35 | jelly | jubei: unstable is not suitable for people not involved in fixing and maintaining debian packages. if you just want to have ccd2iso, you can do /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 12:13.23 | jubei | jelly: ok I'll try that. thanks |
| 12:13.38 | mbroeker | gkk, you cannot archive your result with softlinks. But you can experiment with hardlinks: create a testfolder, touch file1 && ln file1 file2. now edit file1, rename file1 and so on. file2 will always point to the same inode. |
| 12:13.42 | shamrock` | could someone help me debug why either php or command line fail to connect to a mysql server on a remote (lan) debian mysql server please? I get this message "Could not connect to the database:Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111". The mysql port is open. |
| 12:14.01 | Penix | weee. spending $800 is easy |
| 12:14.03 | jubei | the thing is that I'm using linux to just burn a cd, then I'll toss it, so I dont really mind. If I have to, how will I make i t unstable/testing? |
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| 12:14.31 | jelly | jubei: then just download ccd2iso source and build it |
| 12:14.47 | jelly | it's still faster than upgrading to testing |
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| 12:15.01 | gkk | mbroeker: thanks, that solves my problem too |
| 12:15.05 | jubei | jelly: requires later version of glibc than etch has |
| 12:15.07 | vlt | Hello. I got a load of "1.00 1.00 1.00" on a nearly idle machine for more than 30 hours now. This is a vmstat line "1 0 7776 79244 7980 82032 0 0 0 12 1793 735 0 0 100 0", this the output of `top`: http://pastebin.ca/844996 -- How can I find out what causes this suspicious exact load of 1.00? |
| 12:15.22 | jelly | jubei: unlikely, it's a very dumb app |
| 12:15.23 | gkk | since I have many studens and class/group directories will be changed if year ends (incresed by class) |
| 12:15.32 | gonzaloaf | hi, what could be the reason because my sata drive disappears ? how can I know if its turned off or damaged? |
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| 12:15.58 | jelly | jubei: I strongly doubt that the _source code_ has requirements on libc version |
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| 12:18.34 | shamrock` | what logs would I check to see why a connection to a debian based mysql server on the lan is failing? |
| 12:18.46 | DustyBin | I have a lot of mp3s from differenct sources, some of them contain all sorts of errors. If i re-encode all those mp3s with lame does that mean all the errors will be fixed? |
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| 12:19.34 | msn | shamrock`: check cables/hey |
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| 12:19.57 | msn | check ping then check port of mysql |
| 12:19.58 | liable | DustyBin: shit in, shit out |
| 12:20.17 | DustyBin | liable: seriously? i thought lame would sort out the errors during re-encoding |
| 12:20.38 | DustyBin | maybe i need a mp3 checker instead of re-encoding if thats the case |
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| 12:21.04 | gkk | shamrock`, : mysql logs ? |
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| 12:21.08 | liable | DustyBin: it may be able to work around them, but if theres is errors or data missing, you will just get gaps or garbled. its not a magic program |
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| 12:21.37 | shamrock` | msn: the cables work ..... |
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| 12:21.59 | gkk | shamrock`, what error does mysql client return on connecting ? |
| 12:22.02 | msn | shamrock`: check ping check mysql port and check the mysql server if its running |
| 12:22.06 | DustyBin | liable: i do understand that if you put rubbish crap quality in rubbish crap quality will come out, but im more concerned about data checksum errors etc ? |
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| 12:22.14 | liable | DustyBin: some prgrams that rip will reread cd's to try and get a good read, but with an mp3, if theres errors, your pretty much screwed i think |
| 12:22.27 | shamrock` | msn. yes the server is running. how to check the port from the remote machien? |
| 12:22.28 | msn | yup |
| 12:22.36 | msn | nmap |
| 12:22.44 | shamrock` | gkk: Could not connect to the database:Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 |
| 12:22.48 | msn | or telnet <mysqlhost> 3306 |
| 12:23.11 | DustyBin | liable: mp3check - Check mp3 files for consistency <-- this might help me? |
| 12:23.25 | msn | yup dusty-sts |
| 12:23.28 | msn | yup DustyBin |
| 12:23.32 | liable | DustyBin: maybe, can it fix them if it finds errors? |
| 12:23.34 | shamrock` | msn : telnet connection refused. |
| 12:23.35 | DustyBin | checkmp3 - Identify MP3s that do not follow the MP3 format <-- or this? |
| 12:23.46 | liable | !connection refused |
| 12:23.46 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running on the specified ip address at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
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| 12:24.04 | gkk | shamrock`, |
| 12:24.23 | gkk | edit mysql conf file |
| 12:24.25 | shamrock` | firestarter says the port is open |
| 12:24.33 | gkk | and comment bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
| 12:24.38 | liable | remove firestarter and try again |
| 12:24.44 | Dunedan | Is there a reason that there isn't a 2.6.23er kernel for k7 in Debian/unstable? |
| 12:24.58 | shamrock` | liable: remove firestarter?!?! Why on earth woudl I do that. Its only a gui. |
| 12:25.13 | liable | shamrock`: because you cant connect to your server? |
| 12:25.26 | shamrock` | liable: I have enabled the port in firestarter. |
| 12:25.37 | liable | carry on then.. |
| 12:25.38 | gkk | shamrock`, did you commented that line? |
| 12:26.13 | shamrock` | gkk: behind schedule here. will try now. |
| 12:26.14 | gkk | oh and can you connect from server ? |
| 12:26.18 | gkk | like into localhost |
| 12:26.24 | shamrock` | gkk: yes I can. |
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| 12:28.14 | gkk | comment that line and restart mysqld |
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| 12:28.19 | shamrock` | gkk: the bind line was it! thanks!!! |
| 12:28.25 | gkk | )) |
| 12:28.30 | shamrock` | liable: telling some to remove friestarter is plain stupid. |
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| 12:29.00 | jelly | Dunedan: #454777 says -k7 flavor is not built any more |
| 12:29.01 | shamrock` | woo hoo. My debain network is kicking ass now :-; |
| 12:29.12 | gkk | heh |
| 12:29.15 | Dunedan | jelly: thx for that info |
| 12:29.35 | jubei | errhmm.. how do I " Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list" . Ive been googling it but cant seem to find it |
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| 12:30.45 | shamrock` | jubei: and yet you can connect to an irc channel? :-; Do you have synaptic installed? Use that? or directly edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 12:31.08 | jelly | Dunedan: if you have a 64bit capable cpu, you can use -amd64 kernel, but using a 64bit kernel has some issues (building 3rd party modules one of them) |
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| 12:31.20 | gkk | jubei, edit /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 12:31.38 | gkk | ah shamrock` was faster |
| 12:31.55 | shamrock` | gkk: because I'm all excited about my new distributed lan :-; |
| 12:32.03 | gkk | heh |
| 12:32.11 | gkk | I'm still trying to get my samba work with LDAP |
| 12:32.13 | gkk | )) |
| 12:32.22 | shamrock` | uninstall firestarter .... |
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| 12:32.31 | gkk | yes |
| 12:32.32 | gkk | do it |
| 12:32.38 | gkk | command line mysql client ftw! |
| 12:32.49 | dev|work | hey |
| 12:32.53 | gkk | hello |
| 12:32.53 | shamrock` | i tend to use sql-mysql in emacs. |
| 12:33.02 | dev|work | got a problem: Integrated SB Live 24-bit sound card |
| 12:33.12 | dev|work | etch recognised it but i have no sound |
| 12:33.21 | jubei | gkk: I know I must do that but what line must I add, thats what I cant find :) |
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| 12:33.36 | liable | shamrock`: dont be a smart arse. if you got a connection refused from your box when you telneted, either your firewall blocked it or your server was down. uninstalling firestarter takes 10 seconds to do, and 10 to reinstall. |
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| 12:33.59 | liable | shamrock`: or you fucked up the telnet command which seems the case this time |
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| 12:35.06 | jubei | gkk: nvm I think I got it |
| 12:35.16 | gkk | jubei, deb-src http://ftp.ee.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free |
| 12:35.18 | gkk | ah ok |
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| 12:35.54 | gkk | hmm |
| 12:37.04 | gkk | how to set pam ldap secret ? |
| 12:37.07 | gkk | cant recall it anymore |
| 12:37.17 | gkk | changed my ldap pass and now all unix users are gone :D |
| 12:37.23 | gkk | ldap admin pass * |
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| 12:39.29 | db-keen | why does an apt repository need different folders for each distribution? |
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| 12:39.56 | fireba11 | ?? |
| 12:40.51 | gkk | because each distribution got different versions of programs ? |
| 12:41.04 | gkk | and because distributions are different ? |
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| 12:41.57 | fireba11 | db-keen: that's about the same as asking "why are apples and oranges in different boxes at the local market" |
| 12:41.57 | mooper | Yo, Has anyone else noticed the large volume of spam coming through the debian mailing lists |
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| 12:42.50 | mooper | fireba11: because the oranges are uppity and dont get along with the rather course apples |
| 12:42.59 | gkk | exactly |
| 12:43.09 | db-keen | I was actually thinking about debian derivatives which use a different distribution name for each release, causing a lot of duplication between releases, but in the Debian model, it's just stable, unstable and testing |
| 12:43.14 | db-keen | which are clearly separate |
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| 12:43.31 | gkk | basically why arent ubuntu and debian same ? |
| 12:44.03 | mooper | gkk, Cos ubuntu is usable |
| 12:44.11 | neotic | and debian isn't? |
| 12:44.13 | neotic | loool |
| 12:44.21 | mooper | course it isnt |
| 12:44.25 | Basher_ | Hey, check this site out, u get paid to click on sites! i make around 120$ a week doing nothing :D ---> http://adbux.org/?r=basher1 |
| 12:44.26 | mooper | thats why we all use it |
| 12:44.35 | liable | yeah, 800 odd people here agree on that.. |
| 12:44.44 | Airbottle1 | we use it because debian doesnt crash |
| 12:44.45 | gkk | Basher_, gtfo!! |
| 12:44.54 | mooper | "Ubuntu" African for "I cant configure debian" |
| 12:44.56 | liable | !ops Basher_ spam |
| 12:44.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: liable complains about: Basher_ spam |
| 12:45.14 | Basher_ | :) |
| 12:45.18 | Basher_ | its my duty to make u rich eheh |
| 12:45.27 | gouki | omfg |
| 12:45.29 | neotic | Airbottle1: debian isn't more stable than any other linux distro :) |
| 12:45.33 | gkk | Guess what |
| 12:45.35 | gkk | i have a job |
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| 12:45.40 | gkk | get one you teenage bastard |
| 12:45.49 | eth01 | don't rise to it, guys. |
| 12:45.50 | mooper | I am a pimp. I have ho's to make me money |
| 12:45.56 | liable | and get off my lawn! |
| 12:45.56 | gkk | )) |
| 12:46.02 | Basher_ | probably older then u but :) |
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| 12:46.03 | sep | neotic, try upgrading rh/fedora/ubuntu/slack/or any other between major versions and claim the same again. |
| 12:46.24 | gouki | ahaha |
| 12:46.28 | sep | this lenny bys was installed as potato :D |
| 12:46.28 | gkk | pwnt |
| 12:46.35 | neotic | sep: why upgradring? :D |
| 12:46.41 | gkk | nah |
| 12:46.42 | gkk | no need |
| 12:46.45 | gkk | potato ftw |
| 12:46.52 | fireba11 | sep : now that's hardcore :-) |
| 12:47.03 | mooper | neotic: Debian IS the stable disto. it may not be fanct, It may not have bells and whistles. you may need an advanced degree in computer science to operate it |
| 12:47.06 | gkk | i still have redhat valhalla on my firewall |
| 12:47.12 | gkk | to lazy to configure debian on it |
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| 12:47.22 | neotic | mooper: i think my gentoo boxes are as stable |
| 12:47.27 | neotic | mooper: and slack |
| 12:47.35 | sep | i wonder if anyone have a debian upgraded from buzz |
| 12:47.54 | gkk | i recommend you to upgrade distro by distro |
| 12:48.12 | sep | damn.... now i want to install buzz and see if it's possible even... |
| 12:48.17 | shamrock` | mooper: Debian is no more stable than most others IMO. "stable" as in things dont change in Etch, but the applications on it are no more bug free than other distrs. The bugs are stable and documented and that has its worth. |
| 12:48.19 | gkk | since last time when i upgraded from potato to unstable i got serious errors |
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| 12:49.06 | sep | gkk, that's expected you have to follow the releases |
| 12:49.08 | gkk | So basically to make computer stable, plug out our lan cable and leave only BIOS |
| 12:49.32 | mooper | to maek it stable you need to use beer mars where the little rubber feet are missing |
| 12:49.45 | shamrock` | lol |
| 12:49.51 | sep | shamrock`, ofcourse the bugs are the same on the same application. but atleast debian dont pull the rug under my feet by introducing new ones. |
| 12:49.51 | shamrock` | or install it on a tripod machine. |
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| 12:50.06 | shamrock` | sep: testing and unstable do. |
| 12:50.07 | sep | that it does not change without a damn good reason is golden |
| 12:50.14 | sep | shamrock`, ofcourse |
| 12:50.14 | shamrock` | sep and other distros dont make you upgrade. |
| 12:50.32 | sep | they make you reinstall :) |
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| 12:51.02 | shamrock` | I like debian. Dnot get me wrong. But there is a tendency to worship it as a false idol. Some see the difficulties in comparison to say Ubuntu as some sort of l33t badge. |
| 12:51.07 | Airbottle1 | yes shamrock` i had several programs shutting down due to errors, but the OS never crashed |
| 12:51.28 | Airbottle1 | i didn't have used many other distros so, i cannot really judge |
| 12:51.28 | gkk | Ubuntu is sad waste of resources...sorry to say, but true |
| 12:51.32 | shamrock` | Airbottle1: depends on the program. I never had a released Ubuntu or Gentoo kernel crash either. |
| 12:51.48 | Airbottle1 | but i'm absolutely sure that debian is 1000 times better than the windows i was on |
| 12:51.51 | dev|work | what was the command to filter lines with grip, for example if i want to get lines that contain word "snd" |
| 12:51.58 | sep | gkk, ubuntu have done a great job of making linux available for the mainstream. you may like it or not, but it's a great job |
| 12:52.09 | azeem | dev|work: it's grep not grip |
| 12:52.10 | gkk | i didn't say it's bad job |
| 12:52.11 | Airbottle1 | yes, i think ubuntu is a great project |
| 12:52.18 | gkk | just needs much resource |
| 12:52.20 | dev|work | azeem, yeah, sorry, spelling mistake |
| 12:52.25 | shamrock` | gkk: the Ubuntu book is reaping dividends for ALL Linux distros. A lot of the work done there will feed back in terms of usability, support etc,. |
| 12:52.36 | dev|work | for example, i want to get the lines from lsmod that contain word snd |
| 12:52.36 | shamrock` | book? I meant distro. |
| 12:52.40 | mooper | shamrock`: I agree |
| 12:52.53 | mooper | they are putting together the hard work of a lot of the community |
| 12:52.59 | mooper | into something tangiable |
| 12:53.04 | dev|work | "lsmod | grep " and what next ? |
| 12:53.09 | gkk | the only thing I like in Ubuntu is the starting splash screen |
| 12:53.13 | shamrock` | yup. Its why a lot of harcore Linux geeks hate it. It's taking away their toy. |
| 12:53.16 | liable | dev|work: lsmod|grep snd |
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| 12:53.18 | sep | gkk, usplash ? |
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| 12:53.30 | dev|work | thanks |
| 12:53.47 | gkk | sep: yes, but it's modified |
| 12:54.06 | gkk | it doesn't leave black screen between boot splash and gdm |
| 12:54.07 | liable | its not taking anyones toy, the so called hard cores just dont use it.. |
| 12:54.24 | gkk | if I want to play I use Slackware |
| 12:54.29 | sep | gkk, it's the first thing i disable so i can see the messages.... |
| 12:54.31 | shamrock` | liable: sorry. You are so very wrong. |
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| 12:55.13 | shamrock` | Ubuntu efforts are ensuring a lot of the old "only geeks know" knowledge is now under a wizard or well documented. You only need to know the basics to get something specific to work. |
| 12:55.34 | Airbottle1 | so the hard cores basically disable all the features that the ubuntu developers added to debian to make it ubuntu? |
| 12:55.42 | Airbottle1 | why dont they use debian? |
| 12:55.59 | mooper | I know a lot of hard core linux geeks that use windows |
| 12:56.09 | shamrock` | Sure, wizards are not the be all and end all, but why should someone need to learn about the interfaces file (for example) when all they want to do is connect their laptop in a coffee shop? |
| 12:56.20 | poolio | Because then people label them as nostalgic. |
| 12:56.32 | mooper | Hard core geeks than can bench press a cray |
| 12:56.46 | sep | mooper, haha :) |
| 12:57.03 | Rhizome | in the default desktop debian, there isnt some nice GUI for confing ethernet? |
| 12:57.04 | Rhizome | :P |
| 12:57.06 | sep | best definition on hard core geek i ever heard |
| 12:57.07 | shamrock` | Airbottle1: debian is going that way too. primarily because of the improvements to the Gnome/KDE (I hate KDE) sytsem config programs. |
| 12:57.16 | sep | Rhizome, there are 4 pick the one you like |
| 12:57.20 | shamrock` | heh. thats a good one. |
| 12:57.22 | mooper | To be honest, this ais all bollocks. I know geeks and non geeks alike that use/dont use ubuntu windows fedora/rehad etc etc. |
| 12:57.26 | Rhizome | thought so |
| 12:57.29 | sep | Rhizome, debian is all about choise |
| 12:57.36 | gkk | shamrock`, because I like typing and interfaces file ? |
| 12:57.38 | Rhizome | sep: O rly? :O |
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| 12:57.40 | gkk | because terminal ftw |
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| 12:58.15 | sep | having 10 tools to do the same job is a perk :) |
| 12:58.19 | shamrock` | gkk: fine. No problem there. But lots dont. If you can make it easier then why not? Personally I do all my work in emacs ... I'm no GUI fan either. |
| 12:58.49 | gkk | besides |
| 12:58.51 | gkk | dhcp wins |
| 12:59.02 | Airbottle1 | i agree with you shamrock` the advantage is that finally people are starting to use linux instead of windows because there is so little difference after the years, cant be bad in my opinion (and i hate KDE too, but i like some KDE programs :)) |
| 12:59.05 | shamrock` | anyway, thanks for the help and enjoyed the chat. gkk : thanks again for the bind hint. It had been driving me nuts. |
| 12:59.13 | gkk | ) |
| 12:59.13 | sep | boss is annoyed at me since all the documents i am forced to do in oo contains many :wq 's :/ |
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| 13:01.04 | dev|work | k, got sound working |
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| 13:02.18 | ShredZ | When I try to install mysql-server-5.0 on etch it just stays at stopping mysqld without continuing. I really need this to work :( |
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| 13:03.16 | gynterkk | what does log show ? |
| 13:03.45 | ShredZ | gynterkk, what log ? |
| 13:04.05 | gynterkk | mysql log probably |
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| 13:05.25 | ShredZ_ | gynterkk, I can do /etc/init.d/mysql stop and it will nicely stop instantly |
| 13:05.35 | ShredZ_ | gynterkk, but the installation won't proceed anyway |
| 13:05.42 | gynterkk | do you wan't to update mysql ? |
| 13:05.45 | gynterkk | from 4 to 5 ? |
| 13:05.52 | gynterkk | or what ? |
| 13:06.03 | gynterkk | or from 5 to newer 5 ? |
| 13:06.14 | ShredZ_ | initially, yes, but I removed mysql-server hoping it might help |
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| 13:06.30 | ShredZ_ | gynterkk, so now I'm just trying to get it installed |
| 13:06.32 | liable | ShredZ_: i vaguely recall someone having this issue quite a while ago. have you checked bts? |
| 13:06.42 | gynterkk | but still it stop doing nothing |
| 13:06.44 | ShredZ_ | liable, bts ? |
| 13:06.52 | ShredZ_ | gynterkk, it still just sits there |
| 13:06.53 | liable | ShredZ_: bugs.debian.org |
| 13:06.53 | gynterkk | i had same issue long time ago |
| 13:07.02 | gynterkk | can't recall how did I fix it |
| 13:07.25 | gynterkk | i think i purged everything |
| 13:07.42 | gynterkk | but don't do it without backup |
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| 13:07.58 | gynterkk | do you have backup from all your databases? |
| 13:08.47 | ShredZ_ | gynterkk, I have scripts to recreate the db, no data needs to be in it |
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| 13:09.16 | gynterkk | dpkg --purge mysql-server |
| 13:09.23 | gynterkk | but wait |
| 13:09.26 | gynterkk | backup configs too |
| 13:09.29 | gynterkk | that removes everything |
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| 13:09.53 | gynterkk | including privileges! |
| 13:09.56 | gynterkk | and users |
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| 13:13.58 | ShredZ_ | gynterkk, turned off cron and now it installed ok... stupid me |
| 13:14.57 | gynterkk | ah |
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| 13:20.22 | judaz | hey |
| 13:20.27 | judaz | i'm needing help |
| 13:20.39 | judaz | with my thinkpad 390e and debian lenny |
| 13:20.53 | judaz | the laptop has an spanish keyboard |
| 13:20.56 | sep | !tell judaz about ask |
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| 13:21.13 | judaz | but, when I do "loadkeys es" |
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| 13:21.26 | judaz | the keyboard just doesnt works as it should |
| 13:21.35 | monx | hi-heylo |
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| 13:21.51 | judaz | i mean, its obvius that "es" is not the layout for the keyboard |
| 13:21.59 | judaz | latin neither |
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| 13:22.45 | judaz | so, what can i do? |
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| 13:29.03 | et | hi, how do you find out which g++-version was used to compile the c++ stdlib, boost etc on etch? |
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| 13:29.30 | caco | Hi |
| 13:29.34 | caco | i have a question |
| 13:29.43 | cusco | fire away |
| 13:29.43 | caco | when i made apt-get install skype |
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| 13:29.54 | caco | i got two package to remove and one to install |
| 13:29.56 | cusco | there is no skype in debian repos |
| 13:30.19 | caco | i know that removing those packages the PC freezed |
| 13:30.22 | cusco | caco: that can't be |
| 13:30.24 | caco | its a debian based OS :P |
| 13:30.26 | cusco | are you using ubuntu? |
| 13:30.29 | cusco | !ubuntu |
| 13:30.29 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 13:30.35 | caco | no, the thing that comes with the EEE Pc |
| 13:30.44 | caco | debian-based |
| 13:30.53 | Penix | et: it'd be whatever version the 'g++' package is in etch I'd assume |
| 13:30.54 | caco | apt-get have in it's queue those package to remove |
| 13:30.57 | cusco | read what dpkg said |
| 13:31.03 | caco | and i need to remove those packages from the remove queue |
| 13:31.12 | Penix | et: which is 4.1.1 |
| 13:31.16 | liable | caco: see if theres a channel for that |
| 13:31.42 | et | et@eve:~> g++ --version |
| 13:31.42 | et | g++ (GCC) 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) |
| 13:32.09 | et | 4.1.2/4.1.1 shouldn't make a difference though, if you link different things together? |
| 13:32.39 | wols_ | et: it can |
| 13:32.47 | wols_ | C++ is icky |
| 13:33.15 | wols_ | caco: EEE PC uses xandros. ask them |
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| 13:35.10 | et | hmm |
| 13:35.34 | et | i don't get it, why does g++ --version say 4.1.2 and aptitude show g++-4.1 say 4.1.1? |
| 13:35.59 | liable | try dpkg -l|grep g++ |
| 13:36.02 | wols_ | apt-cache policy g++ |
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| 13:36.33 | wols_ | et: you gave your answer yourself earlier: < et> g++ (GCC) 4.1.2 ... (Debian 4.1.1-21) |
| 13:36.49 | wols_ | and all etch packages re compiled with this compiler |
| 13:36.50 | caco | xandros channel is empty :( |
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| 13:37.18 | wols_ | caco: not our problem |
| 13:37.34 | lopov | lol |
| 13:37.46 | et | wols_: well, __GNUC_PATCHLEVEL__ is 2 on this compiler, so i'm kind of confused |
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| 13:45.30 | DustyBin | would this command find all the zip files and remove them: |
| 13:45.32 | DustyBin | find /mnt/audiostore -name '*.zip' -exec rm {} \; |
| 13:45.53 | appelza | yep |
| 13:45.59 | DustyBin | aye excellent :D |
| 13:46.14 | DustyBin | appelza: does that work recursively? |
| 13:46.24 | appelza | yep :P |
| 13:46.25 | appelza | :D |
| 13:46.27 | DustyBin | :D |
| 13:46.42 | monx | damn |
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| 13:46.58 | monx | they weren't kidding when they said i should have a processor above 400Mhz |
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| 13:47.00 | monx | oi vey |
| 13:47.23 | monx | though amazingly enough, unlike anything else, (meaning linux), it IS sorta working. LOL. |
| 13:47.27 | monx | <333333 |
| 13:48.16 | monx | on what other os would you even dare to install drunkenly |
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| 13:48.51 | liable | ah, i was wondering why you werent making much sense :P |
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| 13:49.28 | mXr | could it be that cdebootstrap is broken? |
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| 13:50.01 | mXr | i tried installing lenny with the version from .. lenny. and i get the same error when trying to install ubuntu gutsy, so its probably not a repo issue |
| 13:50.39 | mXr | the process ends with http://p.0wnz.at/184 |
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| 13:52.13 | liable | mXr: i hope your joking |
| 13:52.25 | mXr | why? |
| 13:52.27 | DebianTUXX | hi. recently i have upgrated my 2.6.18 kernel to debian 2.6.22-2-686 . but /dev/pty doesnt work at all for this new kernel. what should i do? |
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| 13:54.44 | liable | mXr: because a debootstarp script shouldnt be using that host |
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| 13:55.01 | mXr | which.. host? |
| 13:55.15 | mXr | err. thats just my pastebin thingie :) |
| 13:55.18 | brubelsabs | how to install AC97 sound for a |
| 13:55.23 | brubelsabs | nforce card? |
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| 13:55.44 | brubelsabs | Since nvidia just supports SuSE+Fedora+RHEL+SLES |
| 13:55.46 | liable | mXr: oh, i thought you meant that was bootstrap output |
| 13:55.47 | mXr | the only thing i found via google that REMOTELY matches my problem is this http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg198036.html |
| 13:55.56 | mXr | whatever cowdancer is. |
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| 13:56.46 | brubelsabs | \ref http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.23.html |
| 13:57.11 | brubelsabs | does someone accomplished that with etch? |
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| 13:59.57 | wols_ | brubelsabs: don't use those drivers |
| 14:00.15 | brubelsabs | I have to, cause the one in the kernel doesn't work |
| 14:00.16 | wols_ | etch comes with drivers for both AC97 and the other hardware of your nvidia board already |
| 14:00.28 | wols_ | you are wrong |
| 14:00.36 | wols_ | what nvidia chipset is it? |
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| 14:03.23 | monx | OH DEAR sense i supposed to be making? |
| 14:03.24 | monx | oi |
| 14:03.28 | brubelsabs | the audio device is: 10de:03f0 |
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| 14:03.38 | monx | <3 |
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| 14:03.48 | brubelsabs | Chipset: NVIDIA MCP61S |
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| 14:04.40 | wols_ | brubelsabs: this is not AC97 |
| 14:04.56 | brubelsabs | yes, but there is an AC97 emulation |
| 14:05.06 | wols_ | it still isn't AC97 |
| 14:05.24 | deepak | can anyone please guide me how to configure pppoe in debian |
| 14:05.38 | lopov | deepak, pppoeconfig |
| 14:05.48 | wols_ | deepak: run pppoeconf |
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| 14:05.56 | brubelsabs | yes natively its an hda, but with nvidia's intel8x0.c it should be able to provide an ordinary AC97 |
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| 14:06.50 | wols_ | why would you want to run the wrong driver. as for nvidia's intel8x0.c, ask nvidia. not #debian |
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| 14:07.02 | avar | I just connected a usb mass storage device, how do I see where in /dev it ended up? |
| 14:07.14 | deepak | but when i run pppoeconfig it is giving command not found |
| 14:07.19 | wols_ | avar: check dmesg |
| 14:07.29 | wols_ | deepak: I told you what to rung |
| 14:07.31 | wols_ | -g |
| 14:08.01 | avar | http://sial.org/pbot/29677 <- dmesg output |
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| 14:08.24 | deepak | means i ahve type pppoeconfig in command line |
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| 14:08.29 | deepak | as superuser |
| 14:08.42 | brubelsabs | I've found a solution https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto |
| 14:08.42 | wols_ | means is the wrong fscking thing to type |
| 14:08.58 | brubelsabs | thanks woIs_ :-) |
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| 14:09.19 | stew | brubelsabs: /msg dpkg new alsa |
| 14:09.29 | sikor_sxe | hello, i wonder where dpkg-buildpackage get it's version number from? i changed the version in my configure.in file, but dpkg-buildpackage won't use this changes |
| 14:09.47 | brubelsabs | stew: whats that? an IRC command? |
| 14:10.03 | deepak | as i am totally newbie to debian |
| 14:10.27 | wols_ | sikor_sxe: version for what? |
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| 14:10.33 | deepak | i ahve installed ppp and pppoe package from dvd |
| 14:10.35 | stew | brubelsabs: yes, it will give you instructions on how to do what your url is doing in a much saner way |
| 14:10.47 | wols_ | deepak: that's fine but you need pppoeconf |
| 14:10.51 | sikor_sxe | my apps version is: 0.4.6.maemobeta1 and dpkg-buildpackage claims: "dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 0.4.6-1" |
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| 14:11.40 | sikor_sxe | and i have no clue where it gets the this "source version". i removed the old source packages dpkg-buildpackage created |
| 14:12.14 | deepak | lopov:pppoeconfig is giving command not found |
| 14:12.20 | stew | sikor_sxe: it gets the version number from debian/changelog |
| 14:12.28 | sikor_sxe | aaaaaah |
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| 14:12.37 | wols_ | deepak: for the LAST time, there exists no such command |
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| 14:12.44 | lopov | deepak, yer dont listen to me im sleepy and tht wasnt the package it was what wols said |
| 14:12.58 | lopov | deepak, run pppoeconf |
| 14:13.05 | avtobiff | deepak, the name is pppoeconf |
| 14:13.06 | stew | sikor_sxe: if its saying that the source version is 0.4.6-1 it likely menas that it can't find ../packagename_0.4.6.orig.tar.gz. did you remove this file? |
| 14:13.09 | avtobiff | not config |
| 14:13.15 | brubelsabs | bye, thank you for your help |
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| 14:14.05 | sikor_sxe | stew: thanks, now it's packaging the correct version |
| 14:14.07 | sikor_sxe | :) |
| 14:14.07 | lopov | thats why they invented auto tab complete for me :p |
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| 14:15.57 | spx2 | can apache and ssh servers be running on the same port(80) at the same time ? |
| 14:16.06 | wols_ | no |
| 14:16.24 | spx2 | wols_: a friend wants to access one of my servers from his workplace |
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| 14:16.42 | spx2 | wols_: but he has blocked almost all ports except for 80(http) |
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| 14:16.44 | wols_ | let ssh listen on port 443 |
| 14:16.55 | spx2 | wols_: why would 443 be special ? |
| 14:16.58 | Agiofws | can someone tell me what package i am missing ? |
| 14:17.02 | Agiofws | FGLRXExtensions.c:16:35: error: X11/extensions/record.h: No such file or directory |
| 14:17.04 | Agiofws | make: *** [all] Error 1 |
| 14:17.09 | happla | spx2: it's the imap ssl-port afaik |
| 14:17.13 | happla | spx2: usually open =) |
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| 14:17.27 | wols_ | happla: try again. and look in your /etc/services |
| 14:17.34 | wols_ | !tell Agiofws about search |
| 14:17.39 | deepak_kumar | avtobiff:even i have tried it but its not working |
| 14:17.50 | avtobiff | deepak_kumar, is it installed? |
| 14:17.55 | wols_ | !tell deepak about doesn't work |
| 14:18.06 | happla | wols_: it was ssl atleast =) |
| 14:18.11 | spx2 | happla , wols_ so I should first do lsof | grep "*443:" to see wich service is working on that port first? |
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| 14:18.24 | wols_ | spx2: no |
| 14:18.26 | deepak_kumar | first i have installes ppp pppoe from dvd |
| 14:18.39 | mbroeker | Agiofws, x11proto-record-dev |
| 14:18.57 | stew | sikor_sxe: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 14:18.58 | deepak_kumar | first i have installed ppp pppoe from the dvd |
| 14:19.02 | stew | spx2: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 14:19.06 | stew | sikor_sxe: nevermind that |
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| 14:19.31 | wols_ | deepak: how often have you have to be told to install pppoeconf? |
| 14:19.32 | spx2 | wols_: netstat -a ? |
| 14:19.34 | stew | deepak_kumar: install pppoeconf as well |
| 14:19.44 | stew | spx2: /msg dpkg open ports |
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| 14:20.12 | stew | spx2: but yes, netstat -a or lsof would work, they will just give you way more information than you need |
| 14:20.15 | deepak_kumar | but its giving command not found ...then what can i do then |
| 14:20.24 | stew | deepak_kumar: install the pppoeconf package |
| 14:20.56 | hamid | i have a bug on debian sid , it's this , apt API not stable yet. |
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| 14:21.24 | stew | hamid: no, a new apt was uploaded ~12 hours ago |
| 14:22.13 | deepak_kumar | stew:thanks but let me to try |
| 14:22.15 | hamid | stew, so , should i update it ? |
| 14:22.23 | spx2 | stew: yes that's why I'm using the grep |
| 14:22.41 | wols_ | spx2: are you running a https seerver? |
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| 14:22.51 | stew | hamid: /msg dpkg bts |
| 14:22.51 | SpeedyG | hey, if i've got a box with a 20GB disk, and I put in a second 20GB disk, would it be possible to put those disks in a raid-array and syncronise them somehow? |
| 14:23.02 | hamid | stew, tnx. |
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| 14:23.05 | wols_ | spx2: raid1 |
| 14:23.10 | wols_ | SpeedyG: ^^ |
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| 14:23.40 | SpeedyG | wols_: would that be doable with sw-raid even if the box is allready fully installed? (i've never done anything with raid yet) |
| 14:23.50 | stew | SpeedyG: yes, you can create a degraded raid1 array using the second disk, copy the data to the array, then add the first disk as a second disk on the array, and let the array rebuild |
| 14:24.07 | spx2 | wols_: just apache2 |
| 14:24.14 | SpeedyG | ok great:) |
| 14:24.22 | wols_ | spx2: then what is that netstat command intended to show you? |
| 14:24.25 | Cr3ature | why is my CPU load metter at full= |
| 14:24.28 | stew | SpeedyG: you can create the array with "missing" as one of the two disks in the array to tell it to build the array degraded |
| 14:24.33 | spx2 | wols_: netstat -a ? |
| 14:24.35 | Cr3ature | Why is my CPU Usage at 100% all the time? |
| 14:24.42 | lopov | Cr3ature, check top |
| 14:24.44 | wols_ | Cr3ature: cause some proces uses it |
| 14:24.45 | spx2 | wols_: all ports open by all processes |
| 14:24.54 | wols_ | spx2: but why would you do it? |
| 14:25.11 | Cr3ature | lopov: i have now suffesfully located the process that is using all the CPU |
| 14:25.13 | stew | wols_: to check that 443 is unused before he binds ssh to it, as he already told you |
| 14:25.22 | Cr3ature | it stays 99-100% |
| 14:25.23 | SpeedyG | stew: so, step by step, that'd mean 1) Built array on empty disk 2) add datadisk to the array 3) rebuilt array ? |
| 14:25.28 | Cr3ature | for that particular process |
| 14:25.30 | wols_ | stew: which is why I asked him "do you run a https server"? |
| 14:26.09 | Cr3ature | lopov: what do i do now? |
| 14:26.15 | wols_ | SpeedyG: set up a degraded array. copy over everything from disk 1 to the new disk, add disk 1 to the array, rebuild array |
| 14:26.27 | stew | wols_: why do you care? it seems like he is after the more relevant information, and if you are wanting to know if he is running an https server, you shouldn't wonder why he is trying to use netstat to check port 443 |
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| 14:26.59 | lopov | Cr3ature, if you dont need the process kill it |
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| 14:27.17 | Cr3ature | lopov: computer crashes when i kill i |
| 14:27.21 | wols_ | stew: generally you know what public services you run before you add a new one |
| 14:27.30 | Cr3ature | lopov: x server crashes if i kill it |
| 14:27.31 | lopov | Cr3ature, ohhh whts the process? |
| 14:27.39 | Cr3ature | its /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-nssxOB |
| 14:27.58 | wols_ | Cr3ature: are you runnin compiz? |
| 14:28.05 | Cr3ature | whats that? |
| 14:28.07 | stew | wols_: right. which is exactly what he is trying to do, which is why i'm wondering why you don't understand why he is using netstat |
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| 14:28.32 | wols_ | stew: I said "know", not "have to look" |
| 14:28.50 | Cr3ature | wols_: i don't know if im running it |
| 14:29.02 | wols_ | Cr3ature: the 3D desktop thingie. the eyecandy |
| 14:29.11 | stew | wols_: after he looks, he will know. |
| 14:29.37 | spx2 | wols_: I actually am not much of a sysadmin myself... |
| 14:29.47 | spx2 | wols_: I'm more inclined to coding perl then sysadmining .. |
| 14:29.55 | spx2 | *than |
| 14:30.04 | wols_ | Cr3ature: btw: stopping X doesn't crashes a computer. if it does, the computre is very broken |
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| 14:30.38 | lopov | wols_, he said it only crashed X |
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| 14:30.49 | stew | spx2: don't worry about wols_, he's just trying to belittle you for no good reason |
| 14:30.52 | wols_ | < Cr3ature> lopov: computer crashes when i kill i |
| 14:31.04 | lopov | wols_, <Cr3ature> lopov: x server crashes if i kill it |
| 14:31.08 | wols_ | stew: thanks |
| 14:31.10 | lopov | :P |
| 14:32.18 | spx2 | stew: okay :) |
| 14:32.29 | spx2 | stew: may I pm you ? |
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| 14:34.33 | DebianTUXX | why cant i execute 'MAKEDEV pty0 pty1 pty2' ? |
| 14:35.29 | wols_ | cause debian uses udev? |
| 14:36.10 | DebianTUXX | wols_: :/ |
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| 14:36.22 | wols_ | DebianTUXX: wher did you get this new kernel from? |
| 14:36.30 | DebianTUXX | wols_: apt-get install... (sid) |
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| 14:37.02 | stew | spx2: please just keep it in the channel |
| 14:37.17 | stew | DebianTUXX: what happens when you try to run MAKEDEV? |
| 14:37.42 | DebianTUXX | stew: it creates an empty /dev/pts/ |
| 14:38.05 | stew | DebianTUXX: is udevd running? |
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| 14:38.26 | patrick-- | Hey, how do i find out what sieve version my mailserver has running? |
| 14:38.36 | DebianTUXX | patrick--: yes |
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| 14:40.27 | stew | DebianTUXX: having nothing in /dev/pts could be normal. device entries are created in there dynamically if you have udev running |
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| 14:41.31 | mrec | hi, how can I pin an application to a specific core? |
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| 14:41.35 | DebianTUXX | stew: well, sorry to bother, but, how do i create them? should xterm or things like this create them when run? |
| 14:41.55 | stew | DebianTUXX: yes, if you run an xterm, one should be created in there |
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| 14:42.03 | DebianTUXX | stew: it doesnt :/ |
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| 14:42.28 | stew | DebianTUXX: is udevd running? |
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| 14:42.48 | patrick-- | DebianTUXX: what? |
| 14:42.50 | patrick-- | what yes? |
| 14:43.05 | DebianTUXX | stew: yes. i have to kernel versions, 2.6.18 and 2.6.22. in 2.6.18 it works fine |
| 14:43.14 | DebianTUXX | (i dont know if this information helps) |
| 14:43.43 | stew | mrec: google for "processor affinity" |
| 14:44.13 | stew | DebianTUXX: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 14:44.32 | DebianTUXX | 2.6.22-2-686 |
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| 14:44.48 | stew | DebianTUXX: what version of udev is installed? |
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| 14:45.28 | DebianTUXX | stew: udevinfo --version? 114 |
| 14:45.38 | themill | mrec: taskset (package schedutils) |
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| 14:45.57 | DebianTUXX | stew: package version is 0.114-2 |
| 14:46.21 | stew | DebianTUXX: do you have an xterm running now? |
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| 14:46.31 | DebianTUXX | stew: no |
| 14:46.46 | DebianTUXX | stew: neyther ssh. only tty |
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| 14:47.01 | stew | DebianTUXX: what happens when you start an xterm? |
| 14:47.11 | spx2 | stew: can I use iptables to forward all packets that come to port 443 to port 22221 and all packets that come out 22221 to port 443 ? |
| 14:47.32 | minus198 | Where do I put programs that I've installed myself? |
| 14:47.44 | minus198 | /opt/ right? |
| 14:47.48 | spx2 | stew: what I mean is 1)packet goes into machine in port 443,and is forwarded to port 22221 |
| 14:47.49 | DebianTUXX | stew: nothing happens. konsole or yakuake says that it cannot open pseudo-teletype (tty :P ) |
| 14:47.59 | stew | spx2: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 443 -j DNAT --to your.ip.add.ress:2221 |
| 14:48.13 | spx2 | stew: 2)packet comes out of port 22221 and is captured and gets out from port 443 instead |
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| 14:48.32 | spx2 | stew: can that be done only for certain packets ? |
| 14:48.48 | spx2 | stew: can iptables recognize the packet , if it is a ssh packet or a http packet ? |
| 14:49.23 | stew | spx2: no |
| 14:50.09 | spx2 | stew: ok,thanks allot :) |
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| 14:51.40 | spx2 | stew: don't I need to specify also the interface ? |
| 14:51.41 | DebianTUXX | stew: isnt ther any plugins for iptables like ftp forward (dont remember the name in english) ? |
| 14:51.48 | stew | spx2: no you don't |
| 14:51.58 | DebianTUXX | stew: this way he could do something like this |
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| 14:52.32 | stew | DebianTUXX: there are connection trackers that will monitor ftp and irc and such that use multiple ports so that the two ports can be related, but that isnt' going to help him |
| 14:52.45 | DebianTUXX | stew: ok... |
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| 14:53.18 | stew | spx2: theoretically two ssl applications (like https and openssl) could share one port if there was some program up front doing the negotiation, but i don't know that anyone has ever implemented such a thing |
| 14:54.13 | DebianTUXX | stew: im looking for udev configuration, but i dont know a bit of it |
| 14:54.44 | wols_ | any suggestion for a "stress test" under debian for a PC? |
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| 14:55.05 | stew | DebianTUXX: you could try /msg dpkg fresh udev config |
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| 14:56.43 | wols_ | stew: couldn't any two rptocols "share" a port like this if one had written the proper "gateway app" to distinguish between them? e.g. like apache has one master process listening at the port, handing over the connections to its children |
| 14:56.50 | Ward1983 | i'm currently running debian stable on my pda, but now i would like to try out EABI, and thats only in unstable, does someone know how i can do this? |
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| 14:57.07 | wols_ | !tell Ward1983 about simple sid backport |
| 14:57.15 | Ward1983 | thnx wols_ |
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| 14:58.11 | Ward1983 | wols_, is EABI an actual deb? |
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| 14:59.32 | Penix | Ward1983: you need to read about what the EABI is obviously |
| 14:59.55 | Ward1983 | Penix, i know what it is, but i don't know how to enable it |
| 15:00.03 | Penix | Ward1983: you don't 'enable' it |
| 15:00.12 | Ward1983 | Penix, you know what i mean... ffs |
| 15:00.14 | Penix | Ward1983: you upgrade every single package from oabi to eabi |
| 15:00.34 | Penix | if it's possible to do it that way without reinstalling... |
| 15:00.54 | patrick-- | How do I find out what version of sieve server im running? |
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| 15:01.06 | minus198 | So I've downloaded songbird, and I want it to be possible to exec from the terminal. So what I remember from earlier, you put the files in /opt/ and the the exec itself somewhere. Where do I put the executable? |
| 15:01.14 | minus198 | in /usr/local/bin? |
| 15:01.17 | leumaS | Icedove suddenly started misbehaving... if I get HTML-mail and click the "load images" button. It tries to load them all in Iceweasel... and it loads every image in a separate tabb. any ideas? din't see anything about it on google |
| 15:01.18 | DebianTUX | stew: thanks man! workd :) |
| 15:01.23 | Penix | patrick--: check the package version for whatever sieve is |
| 15:01.51 | patrick-- | done, its not a package as it seems |
| 15:01.54 | patrick-- | any other idea? |
| 15:01.56 | leumaS | BTW running Debian testing and I think the Icedove version is 2.0.0.9 |
| 15:02.21 | Penix | patrick--: then you've installed it yourself. you should know which version it is I guess |
| 15:02.30 | patrick-- | Penix: i havent |
| 15:02.32 | Ward1983 | Penix, how can i do this? update every package to EABI? just add sid to my sources.list but then what? |
| 15:03.06 | Penix | Ward1983: I'm not even sure it can be done like that |
| 15:03.35 | Penix | Ward1983: the debian eabi port is a completely different arch IIRC |
| 15:03.42 | Penix | armel isn't it? |
| 15:04.02 | Ward1983 | i think so |
| 15:04.03 | Penix | and arm or something is the old oabi |
| 15:04.13 | Ward1983 | but i also read EABI supports OABI ? |
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| 15:04.24 | patrick-- | Penix: is there any other way of finding out? |
| 15:04.32 | Penix | Ward1983: you can have an EABI kernel with some OABI backwards compatibility |
| 15:04.32 | Ward1983 | lol well i'm just gonna give up then |
| 15:04.43 | Penix | Ward1983: I don't know if it's stable enough to support what you want |
| 15:05.01 | Penix | Ward1983: long story short, probably need to replace your oabi system with an armel install |
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| 15:05.10 | DebianTUX | stew: now is the microsoft pptp vpn strugle :P |
| 15:05.11 | Ward1983 | Penix, i'm just gonna wait untill someone at the forum for the linux port for my pda is posting a tutorial then |
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| 15:10.39 | patrick-- | I have a problem with timsieved v2.1.18. it will not send any emails like away notes or any notification emails. what could be wrong? it does move emails to folders though.. |
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| 15:12.34 | Agiofws | is anyone using debian lenny ona 2 duo core processor preferably a laptop ? |
| 15:12.36 | wols_ | patrick--: checked your MTA logs? |
| 15:12.43 | wols_ | !anyone |
| 15:12.43 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 15:14.44 | themill | Agiofws: lots of people. What's your real question? |
| 15:15.48 | patrick-- | wols_: i did check logs... nothing unusal there |
| 15:15.52 | Agiofws | i just overwritted my blacklist file with echo foo > blacklist can i get a duplicate ? |
| 15:16.09 | wols_ | patrick--: do those forwarding mails show up in the logs? |
| 15:16.14 | patrick-- | no |
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| 15:16.53 | wols_ | Agiofws: no you can't. what would other people's blacklist help you anyways? |
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| 15:17.18 | chops | Agiofws: And what does that have to do with what CPU or form factor other people are using? :-) |
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| 15:18.05 | Agiofws | i suppose the same arcH AND system will have the same modules blaclisted |
| 15:18.12 | Agiofws | or similar |
| 15:18.20 | wols_ | not a good supposition |
| 15:18.24 | Agiofws | for who knows my system might not even boot |
| 15:18.49 | wols_ | I don't get why one would need a blacklist at all most times |
| 15:18.57 | chops | Agiofws: It has more to do with your exact peripherals than with your CPU or what shape your computer is. Even the same model of laptop may have a different blacklist from one person to another. |
| 15:19.12 | patrick-- | wols_: they dont show up in the log |
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| 15:19.19 | chops | Agiofws: FWIW, I've never fooled with the blacklist to my at all that I can remember, or needed to. |
| 15:19.29 | patrick-- | should sieve Away notification mails show up in the mail.log*? |
| 15:19.32 | Agiofws | so whats my option |
| 15:19.33 | wols_ | patrick--: means MTA never sees them so the error is somewhere with timesieved or its config |
| 15:19.36 | Agiofws | ? |
| 15:19.51 | Agiofws | well i do cause i like to unload modules that i don;t need |
| 15:19.52 | wols_ | andything that gets sent by the MTA should show up there |
| 15:19.56 | wols_ | *anything |
| 15:20.05 | patrick-- | wois_: should sieve Away notification mails show up in the mail.log*? |
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| 15:20.34 | wols_ | Agiofws: what kind of modules do you unload? |
| 15:20.40 | wols_ | or rather: prevent from loading |
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| 15:21.59 | Agiofws | wols_, onces that just use up memory .. |
| 15:22.07 | Agiofws | or ones i just don;t need |
| 15:22.10 | Agiofws | a=ATM |
| 15:22.32 | Agiofws | example firewire |
| 15:22.33 | chops | Agiofws: Like which ones for example? |
| 15:22.43 | Agiofws | but system had default stuff blacklisted aswell |
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| 15:22.54 | Agiofws | an many of them |
| 15:23.00 | Agiofws | like 20-30 modules |
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| 15:24.48 | chops | Agiofws: Hm, it looks like /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is provided as a conffile by udev... you could restore it from there to get the default. |
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| 15:26.27 | patrick-- | wois_: should sieve Away notification mails show up in the mail.log*? |
| 15:26.49 | Agiofws | chops, how do i do that ? |
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| 15:27.47 | chops | Agiofws: Delete the empty blacklist file, and run apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install udev |
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| 15:28.34 | Agiofws | chops, you're sure it won't break anything ? |
| 15:28.58 | chops | Agiofws: FWIW, I don't think that blacklisting modules you don't feel are necessary is a good use of your time, but it's up to you of course :-) |
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| 15:29.28 | chops | Agiofws: I don't see why it would break anything (unless you've deleted other udev conffiles that you want to stay deleted). |
| 15:29.51 | patrick-- | where is the password to sieveshell specified? |
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| 15:31.06 | Agiofws | chops, its done |
| 15:31.12 | Agiofws | :> |
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| 15:31.43 | Agiofws | hope it works i it generated an initrd file in boot but i don;t use one i have a vanila kernel |
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| 15:35.11 | teclo- | Hum, it appears acidrip is missing in Debian lenny... aptitude search acidrip show nothing... any idea ? |
| 15:35.22 | minus198 | How do I install things in the /opt/ dir? I mean, how do I make it possible to exec from the terminal? Where do I put the executable? I guess I have to make some symlinks or somethings |
| 15:35.30 | karrotx_ | teclo-: non-free needed? |
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| 15:37.11 | themill | teclo-: it's in debian-multimedia.org. /msg dpkg dmm |
| 15:37.23 | hans-rudolf | !dpkg iptables |
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| 15:37.35 | hans-rudolf | dpkg iptables |
| 15:37.35 | dpkg | iptables is probably the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: <masq>, or try #iptables for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450 |
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| 15:37.52 | teclo- | themill: ah, I forgot to add the debian-multimedia sources... |
| 15:38.07 | themill | minus198: What are you trying to do? |
| 15:38.15 | Yggdrasil | hello, i havea question. I have a linux box that i installed a large raid array on. I was wondering if there is a way that i can use it as a file server under active directory . |
| 15:38.17 | minus198 | themill, I |
| 15:38.26 | minus198 | enter sux |
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| 15:39.43 | minus198 | themill, I've downloaded Songbird. And stuff that isn't in the repo, I've heard are supposed to put there.. |
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| 15:41.02 | themill | minus198: if you are compiling from source, then something like "./configure --prefix=/opt && make && make install" is usually what you want. You can also use /usr/local instead of /opt. |
| 15:41.17 | minus198 | Nope.. it wasn't from source.. |
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| 15:41.27 | minus198 | It was already compiled. |
| 15:41.34 | Gh0sTeE | . |
| 15:42.04 | teclo- | 9;5~hum I did put deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main |
| 15:42.15 | teclo- | in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:42.19 | teclo- | it still can't find acidrip |
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| 15:42.47 | themill | did you aptitude update? |
| 15:44.09 | lilalinux | lol: From the smb.conf man page: To specify an argument use the syntax SOME_OPTION = VALUE for example SO_SNDBUF = 8192. Note that you must not have any spaces before or after the = sign. |
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| 15:44.16 | lilalinux | Does that make any sense? |
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| 15:44.56 | crumblenaut | is there a way to resource-limit cgi scripts, if the resource problem is related to mysql activity? |
| 15:45.14 | petemc | lilalinux: it does appear as tho the example contradicts the text |
| 15:45.16 | chops | lilalinux: No, it doesn't |
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| 15:45.18 | lurch | hi im having a problem with debain vms on a dell poweredge 2900 they keep detecting multiple disks and when the vm goes to boot up debain keeps saying spinning up disks any ideas? |
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| 15:45.34 | teclo- | damnit, even with debian-multimedia it won't find acidrip |
| 15:45.43 | teclo- | and now I have packages with {a} |
| 15:45.44 | chops | crumblenaut: nice or ulimit might do what you want |
| 15:45.53 | petemc | lurch: what kind of virtualisation? |
| 15:46.08 | lurch | petemc: im using vmware server on suse 10.3 |
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| 15:46.28 | lilalinux | gotit: actually they meant: socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 (No spaces before and after the rhs equals |
| 15:47.53 | teclo- | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "acidrip" |
| 15:47.53 | teclo- | The following packages have been kept back: libmime-perl{a} |
| 15:48.04 | teclo- | what does that {a} mean please ? |
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| 15:48.27 | chops | teclo-: Automatically installed (as a dependency of something else), rather than because you requested it explicitly |
| 15:48.41 | Ricoshady | anyone know the difference between the emacs package and emacs21? |
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| 15:49.23 | teclo- | chops: thank you... |
| 15:49.30 | chops | teclo-: np |
| 15:49.41 | chops | Ricoshady: apt-cache show emacs |
| 15:49.42 | teclo- | chops: but, I still can't find acidrip, and I've added the line for debian-multimedia... is acidrip "dead" in lenny ? |
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| 15:50.12 | chops | teclo-: I don't know, sorry. |
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| 15:55.33 | lurch | petemc: any ideas? |
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| 15:56.32 | petemc | lurch: none |
| 15:56.57 | petemc | lurch: i would suspect vmware rather than anything else tho |
| 15:57.35 | lurch | petemc: i got into the system and checked the fstab and theres nothing in there except the hds i setup so i agree probably vmware |
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| 16:02.37 | shamrock` | is there a simple way to temporarily disable all cron tasks e.g while copying things around that cron might interfere with? |
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| 16:02.42 | epsas | hello |
| 16:02.48 | epsas | i have a tricky installation situation |
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| 16:03.04 | epsas | i have a laptop which requires ndiswrapper for it's wifi |
| 16:03.14 | SpeedyG | shamrock`: i'd try /etc/init.d/cron stop |
| 16:03.19 | SpeedyG | not sure if that'd work tho |
| 16:03.27 | epsas | however, i do not have a wired ethernet to do that install |
| 16:03.53 | epsas | is there a utility for batch downloading packages (and their requirements) for installation on another system? |
| 16:04.08 | epsas | as I can reach the internet via my ubuntu partition |
| 16:04.30 | shamrock` | SpeedyG: doh. So easy. I should have looked. |
| 16:04.39 | SpeedyG | shamrock`: my thought exactly :D |
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| 16:06.00 | chops | epsas: Try http://batmat.net/apt-offline/index.html |
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| 16:06.45 | epsas | chops - thanks a million |
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| 16:08.01 | chops | epsas: np |
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| 16:09.46 | eSPyeL | I've got a major problem. I stupidly moved my /lib to another partition. Now none of my binaries will run so I can't even move it back. Is there an environment variable that tells binaries where /lib is located? |
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| 16:10.18 | oramirez | does anyone know where are the bacula scripts of the debian packages? |
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| 16:13.46 | ShredZ_ | any reason why a hard drive won't mount because target is supposedly busy ? |
| 16:14.29 | xand | eSPyeL: /lib is located at /lib |
| 16:14.36 | xand | eSPyeL: that's all programs care about |
| 16:14.48 | stew | oramirez: dpkg -L bacula |
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| 16:17.34 | SamuraiDio | why do my boot stay almost two minutes on this highlightened line (http://pastebin.com/d645e5cb0)? may it be because of my usb keyboard? |
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| 16:18.07 | eSPyeL | xand: so my only option is to boot a live cd and move it back? |
| 16:18.55 | xand | eSPyeL: I don't see what you mean, the programs shouldn't care what partition /lib is on... |
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| 16:19.06 | xand | do you mean /lib is missing or empty? |
| 16:19.58 | eSPyeL | xand: i moved /lib to /home/lib with the intentions of making a symlink to point /lib to /home/lib |
| 16:20.08 | xand | do that then |
| 16:20.14 | xand | doesn't it work? |
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| 16:20.29 | xand | or you mean you can't run ln? |
| 16:20.31 | oramirez | stew, thanks. |
| 16:20.40 | justin | eSPyeL: ah, that is easy to fix |
| 16:20.59 | petemc | someone i know ran "chmod -x /bin/chmod" |
| 16:21.00 | justin | spx2: try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/lib mv /home/lib / |
| 16:21.43 | stew | eSPyeL: you can't have /lib on a separate partition than / |
| 16:21.49 | justin | petemc: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /bin/chmod +x /bin/chmod :-) |
| 16:21.56 | petemc | justin: correct :) |
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| 16:22.22 | deconvolution | hi, I am configuring my ldap for user management. For a user in my ldap directory, finger command can correctly read out the user profile. However, as I have added pam_ldap.so to /etc/pam.d/common-* files, I still cannot login the system by such user. Could an expert give me a suggestion? |
| 16:22.22 | stew | eSPyeL: you need libraries in /lib in order to be able to mount /home, so you have a chicken and egg problem with /lib being on a different partition |
| 16:22.25 | spx2 | justin: talkin to me ? |
| 16:22.36 | justin | spx2: oops :) |
| 16:22.47 | justin | eSPyeL: try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/lib mv /home/lib / |
| 16:22.59 | eSPyeL | justin: tried it and.... -bash: /bin/mv: No such file or directory |
| 16:23.02 | xand | mmm |
| 16:23.03 | petemc | justin: are you justin of yore, or a new justin? |
| 16:23.33 | petemc | cool beans :) |
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| 16:23.57 | petemc | perhaps 5 or so years ago there was a smart but fairly cantankerous justin |
| 16:24.05 | justin | O:-) |
| 16:24.06 | petemc | in this channel.. |
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| 16:24.14 | minus198 | how do you remove links? |
| 16:24.20 | petemc | rm |
| 16:24.40 | eSPyeL | justin: i also thought setting ld_library_path would work, but it doesn't for some reason....there has to be another environment variable... |
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| 16:24.56 | anapivirtua | Hi world |
| 16:24.57 | justin | eSPyeL: you do have /bin/mv, right? |
| 16:25.02 | monx | hello |
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| 16:25.03 | jelly | eSPyeL: LD_PRELOAD? |
| 16:25.07 | eSPyeL | justin: correct |
| 16:25.19 | SQLDb | Is it possible, to install debian to another hard drive, from a machine running debian already? |
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| 16:25.36 | darrh00 | A silly question:How to reuse standard input?ie: to pass standard input to next command in the pipe? |
| 16:25.44 | stew | SQLDb: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 16:25.48 | justin | eSPyeL: what does LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/lib/ ldd /bin/mv say? |
| 16:25.53 | SQLDb | stew: thanks :) |
| 16:25.58 | jelly | ... wtf, ldd `which mv` is eight lines long |
| 16:26.27 | justin | yeahh, what are the arguments against static /bin again? :) |
| 16:26.28 | _Krieger_ | i have /etc on separate partition. i have problem, because linux says there`s no /etc/inittab. is GRUB capable to mount partitions somehow? Or any other suggestions? |
| 16:26.35 | eSPyeL | justin: -bash: /usr/bin/ldd: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 16:26.53 | jelly | justin: one static shell is enough |
| 16:27.02 | justin | ooh, ldd is a shell script.. |
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| 16:27.07 | jelly | something like busybox or sash |
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| 16:27.58 | justin | eSPyeL: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/lib/ LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 /home/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /bin/mv should work :) |
| 16:28.17 | minus198 | I cant get my symlinks to work.. I did "ln -s lol /test/lol" |
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| 16:28.34 | minus198 | And when I do "cat /test/lol" it doesn't show anything.. |
| 16:28.40 | justin | minus198: you're backwards |
| 16:28.49 | minus198 | huh? |
| 16:28.50 | eSPyeL | justin: yes that worked.... |
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| 16:29.17 | justin | minus198: touch original;ln -s original link; ls -l original link |
| 16:29.33 | justin | eSPyeL: were any not found? |
| 16:29.55 | eSPyeL | justin: linux-gate.so.1 looks like it wasn't found |
| 16:30.02 | stew | minus198: what does "ls -l lol" return? |
| 16:30.04 | justin | eSPyeL: ooh, does LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/lib/ /home/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /bin/mv work? |
| 16:30.37 | minus198 | stew, minus@neon:~/test/test2$ ls -l |
| 16:30.38 | minus198 | total 0 |
| 16:30.38 | minus198 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 minus minus 3 2008-01-08 17:30 lol -> lol |
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| 16:30.45 | eSPyeL | justin: you are the man! |
| 16:30.51 | minus198 | sorry for paste. |
| 16:31.01 | stew | minus198: right, so "cat /test/lol" doesn't show anything becuase /test/lol is a symlink to lol and lol doesn't contain anything |
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| 16:31.26 | monx | ok, i think this might be a very easy question to answer. (/me crosses his fingers) How do I mount a Drive connected to this laptop via USB>? |
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| 16:31.43 | minus198 | well.. /lol contains "roflmao". And I did "ln -s lol test/lol" |
| 16:31.53 | justin | minus198: touch original;ln -s original link; ls -l original link |
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| 16:32.04 | stew | minus198: then you should have run "ln -s /lol test/lol" not "ln -s lol test/lol" |
| 16:32.15 | minus198 | ah.. /lol |
| 16:32.35 | streuner | monx: /msg dpkg usb storage |
| 16:32.45 | monx | danke |
| 16:32.46 | chops | monx: Probably something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk" |
| 16:33.06 | streuner | !usb storage |
| 16:33.06 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. ask me about <automount> |
| 16:33.20 | justin | !+factinfo usb storage |
| 16:33.20 | dpkg | usb storage -- created by resiak <n=will@unaffiliated/resiak> at Sun Sep 4 17:38:24 2005 (855 days); it has been requested 158 times, last by streuner, 14s ago. |
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| 16:33.46 | averule | hi i am having problem for tasksel package customization ..how to make print-server by default install without display |
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| 16:34.01 | _Krieger_ | i have /etc on separate partition. i have problem, because linux says there`s no /etc/inittab. is GRUB capable to mount partitions somehow? Or any other suggestions? |
| 16:34.05 | monx | dpkg usb |
| 16:34.06 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, usb is (Universal Serial Bus) A technology that has replaced the way that some peripheral devices connect to a computer. It is much faster than serial and parallel communications. It is also much more flexible: it will be able to connect to many devices simultaneously. http://www.linux-usb.org, or http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html |
| 16:34.12 | monx | ack |
| 16:34.14 | justin | _Krieger_: you can't have /etc/ on a separate partition |
| 16:34.36 | justin | _Krieger_: technically you could use an initrd to mount / and then /etc, but why bother? |
| 16:34.48 | monx | lsusb |
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| 16:35.33 | lindenle | anyone know if the condor guys have an IRC channel |
| 16:35.42 | monx | update-usbids |
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| 16:35.49 | monx | dang it all, silly terminal |
| 16:35.51 | averule | dpkg ,can you help me for tasksel package customization |
| 16:36.04 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 16:36.04 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
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| 16:36.09 | Ronin | umm averule dpkg is a bot not a person |
| 16:36.36 | LimCore | Ronin: but he graduated accademy and got medals |
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| 16:36.42 | LimCore | or wait, was it other one |
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| 16:37.16 | averule | Roniin: i want to customize tasksel package such that some task has not to display but get installed by default |
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| 16:37.58 | monx | well then... so far no sucess |
| 16:38.47 | monx | after finally getting commands into terminal... Running Antix, Mepis, dunno if that has anything to do with the failure. First time really trying very much on linux period, and debian in specific |
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| 16:39.06 | bolt | user: "should i run that command now?" (2 seconds) user: "i ran that command and it crashed the machine" me: "..." |
| 16:39.09 | bolt | i mean, why even ask? |
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| 16:40.13 | chops | monx: Antix is not Debian, it's "based on" Debian |
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| 16:40.23 | monx | ok |
| 16:40.30 | monx | my apologies. |
| 16:40.34 | monx | shows how much i know |
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| 16:44.10 | monx | well, there is an improvement. Least it is showing up in lsusb now. Wasn't before. So how to actually get into it? Tried /dev/sda* and it aint a go... bouncing around while i still have juice, trying to transfer this resume, quicklike, why I am buggin a lil, |
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| 16:44.37 | helo_ | lspci shows this laptop's sound to be intel 82801G ich7... snd_hda_intel loaded automatically, but sound doesn't work... normal users (in group 'audio') get errors about no audio device. root can run audio programs (and change volumes in alsamixer) but no sound comes out... any clues? |
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| 16:45.23 | artagnon | I'm unable to unload one of my kernel modules since it's in use |
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| 16:45.26 | Dantix | hi, I'm on my first try with ipvsadm and have a doubt: just configured a virtual server with its realservers etc.. I should be see a listening port for it on netstat -an? |
| 16:45.27 | RhinoAK | What command can I use to show the path to my kernel |
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| 16:46.01 | justin | RhinoAK: /boot? |
| 16:46.03 | artagnon | it's not in use by any other kernel modules... how do I find out what is using it? |
| 16:46.08 | artagnon | I want to free it |
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| 16:47.07 | monx | or, looks like there is a kernel in /boot. thanks for the help guys. |
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| 16:47.33 | justin | monx: are you sure the drive isn't already mounted? |
| 16:47.47 | monx | yeah, i think it is, but i still can't seem to browse it |
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| 16:48.13 | RhinoAK | has anyone had any success with the Madwifi dirvers |
| 16:48.26 | monx | i feel so stupid in this linux world, though trying my best to stay on the upside and positive and all that carp |
| 16:48.51 | RhinoAK | as far as compiling it to work on Debian box |
| 16:49.00 | monx | might not be assssss freaked if i actually knew how long the battery on the lappy had left to it. |
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| 16:49.19 | justin | monx: acpi will tell you that |
| 16:49.47 | monx | I don't know how to open '/dev/disk/by-id/usb-LaCie_BigDisk_AAC5B6743E1E-0:0-part1' |
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| 16:50.49 | monx | acpid? |
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| 16:52.38 | justin | monx: nah, if you just run acpi you should get the battery info |
| 16:53.08 | lurch | when i go to restart the networking service all i get is reconfiguring network interfaces..done and then it kicks back to command prompt what causes this? |
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| 16:53.30 | monx | yeah, seems it is now mounted, but when trying to go through using the gui, or even the terminal, seems I am in need of a bit more info, go to /dev/disk/bypath and others, it shows, but it aint goin all the way. Reminds me of my girlfriend. |
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| 16:54.06 | monx | no go on /media |
| 16:54.44 | monx | when I go to mnt looks like my home folder pretty much. |
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| 16:55.34 | RhinoAK | trying to compile a make file for Madwifi on my Debian box |
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| 16:55.46 | RhinoAK | when I type make at the prompt I get |
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| 16:55.54 | stew | monx: can you show us the output of "mount" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 16:56.00 | monx | and i am pretty sure this is a fairly easy thing for |
| 16:56.03 | stew | RhinoAK: /msg dpkg madwifi-install |
| 16:56.05 | RhinoAK | Makefile.inc:81: *** Cannot detect kernel version - please check comiler and KERNELPATH. Stop |
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| 16:56.28 | monx | oh dear |
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| 16:56.46 | monx | now to tackle copy/pasting from terminal into the gui. /me blushes. |
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| 16:57.19 | stew | monx: run "mount > /tmp/somefile" then upload /tmp/somefile to http://paste.debian.ent or http://pastebin.ca/upload.php |
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| 16:57.36 | stew | monx: or skip mount and just upload /etc/mtab |
| 16:57.40 | RhinoAK | Stew: no file or directory when I enter /msg dpkg madwifi-install |
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| 16:57.45 | MaximusBrood | Hello |
| 16:57.53 | stew | dpkg: tell RhinoAK about madwifi-install |
| 16:57.53 | Ronin | RhinoAK: here in channel |
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| 16:58.14 | monx | AHA! |
| 16:59.01 | RhinoAK | yes |
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| 16:59.16 | RhinoAK | Ronin |
| 16:59.38 | MaximusBrood | I'm renting a dedicated server, but it only offers Gentoo and SuSe by default. It has a rescue system which enables me to change stuff on all harddrives (that rescue system is also debian-based). Is there a possibilty I can install debian in this way? |
| 16:59.56 | RhinoAK | going straight off the steps from madwifi.org |
| 17:00.07 | monx | hmmmm, or not... |
| 17:00.16 | stew | RhinoAK: we'd recommend you not use those instructions and instead use the instructions that dpkg told you |
| 17:00.21 | RhinoAK | and I've confirmed my wireless nic is compatible |
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| 17:00.31 | monx | thought maybe it was to be found in proc |
| 17:00.41 | stew | monx: what was to be found in proc? |
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| 17:02.45 | mdales | anyone got any thoughts on why when apt-get is doing an update from my own repository it's getting a 416 for Packages.gz? does it try and do anything fancy when it downloads files? |
| 17:02.46 | monx | a whole lotta stuff. But not quite what I was looking for. I mean, seems you can find files concerned with uptime, a whole buncha stuff in proc, ((guessing to do with the ((processor)))) |
| 17:02.56 | lurch | how do you use dkpg to rebuild the networking module? |
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| 17:03.26 | stew | monx: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 17:03.39 | stew | lurch: which networking module? |
| 17:03.57 | monx | trying to get into the files on the now (mounted?) usb druive |
| 17:03.59 | monx | -u |
| 17:04.21 | monx | yet i don't know how to actually get at the files, I am that new to the whole thing here, including the terminal, and other such things |
| 17:04.35 | lurch | stew: to rebuild networking im having a problem where when i do a /etc/init.d/network restart it just says reconfigureing ...done and then kicks me back to command line |
| 17:04.37 | stew | monx: where is it mounted? |
| 17:04.41 | monx | exactly |
| 17:04.51 | monx | I am not sure |
| 17:04.52 | lurch | stew: it doesnt actully go and refresh based on the interfaces file |
| 17:05.05 | monx | all i know is that I sucessfully mounted it, it would seem |
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| 17:05.16 | stew | monx: that's why i was asking for the output of 'mount' or the contents of /etc/mtab, since they would say where it is mounted |
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| 17:05.24 | monx | ok |
| 17:05.30 | monx | i nanod mt |
| 17:05.32 | monx | mtab |
| 17:05.52 | stew | lurch: can you show us your /etc/network/interfaces ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 17:05.55 | RhinoAK | thanks Stew |
| 17:05.59 | RhinoAK | and dpkg |
| 17:06.14 | monx | where i now fail is actually copying from terminal and pasting into ... OH! |
| 17:06.17 | monx | one sec |
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| 17:07.06 | |xianai| | stew: cat /proc/mounts for double sure, sometimes mtab is not the true story |
| 17:07.34 | monx | tmpfs /lib/init/rw tmpfs rw,nosuid,mode=0755 0 0 |
| 17:07.34 | monx | proc /proc proc rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 |
| 17:07.34 | monx | sysfs /sys sysfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 |
| 17:07.34 | monx | procbususb /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 |
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| 17:07.50 | monx | dammit |
| 17:07.52 | monx | sorry |
| 17:07.57 | themill | !tell monx about paste |
| 17:08.06 | monx | i though i had pasted to dpkg |
| 17:08.19 | themill | there's no point in pasting things to the bot... |
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| 17:08.29 | monx | but it appears this aint working like my typical. |
| 17:08.30 | monx | ok |
| 17:08.32 | lurch | stew: cant pastebin the file no way to get on the internet |
| 17:09.07 | |xianai| | who to change my nick ? |
| 17:09.13 | |xianai| | s/who/how |
| 17:09.23 | monx | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:09.27 | monx | without the space |
| 17:09.42 | DebianTUX | do some one knows how to configure a ipsec linux(client)->windows(server) vpn? |
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| 17:09.49 | |xianai| | monx: dont work :( |
| 17:09.52 | monx | and far as I know you can still register nicks with freenode? |
| 17:10.02 | monx | already taken? |
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| 17:10.25 | |zeal| | ur right |
| 17:10.29 | |zeal| | done :) |
| 17:10.39 | |zeal| | zeal is taken |
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| 17:11.17 | badcfe | how do i get color ls on debian? |
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| 17:11.43 | stew | badcfe: color where? |
| 17:11.49 | |zeal| | badcfe: export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto -p' |
| 17:11.56 | badcfe | stew: on the filenames listed |
| 17:12.26 | badcfe | |zeal|: ah ok, so its integrated in the basic ls |
| 17:12.27 | stew | badcfe: edit ~/.bashrc and uncomment the line that says: alias ls='ls --color=auto' |
| 17:12.59 | badcfe | stew: oh okay, i use zsh, but its shurely about the same as in the bashrc sample .. |
| 17:12.59 | |zeal| | badcfe: yep |
| 17:13.36 | |zeal| | badcfe: y zsh ? anything special ? |
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| 17:14.25 | stiv2k | hello |
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| 17:14.53 | monx | oi vey |
| 17:14.55 | monx | http://rafb.net/p/O5HMMz51.html |
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| 17:15.07 | stew | badcfe: yes, the same alias works in .zsh |
| 17:15.10 | stew | rc |
| 17:15.14 | monx | that took longer then i shou8lda. LOL. But there be mtab for ya if ya still round stew |
| 17:15.34 | monx | forgot i could combine the world of the gui with the files i was trying to acess in the term |
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| 17:15.50 | |zeal| | !tell monx about lol |
| 17:16.13 | monx | though i think i need to swap out the cable and plug back into my lappy before she unjuices completely |
| 17:16.13 | stew | monx: what type of device are you looking for? how is it attached? |
| 17:16.39 | monx | <Muahahahahahahhahahahahah) @ dpkg & |zeal| |
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| 17:16.50 | monx | better? ;) |
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| 17:16.55 | queuetue | Hi. If I want to switch a machine from amd64 to 686, do I have to reinstall all of the userspace stuff, or just change kernels? |
| 17:17.04 | monx | it's a usb device |
| 17:17.20 | |zeal| | monx: brilliant :D |
| 17:17.36 | monx | but i think for now i must disconnect it, seeing as the power is about to blank out on the lappy |
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| 17:17.47 | monx | and only have one cable for both the usb device and the laptop |
| 17:17.53 | monx | lappy == laptop. |
| 17:18.06 | stew | monx: and you are booted from the internal drive on the laptop |
| 17:18.15 | monx | yessir |
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| 17:18.21 | stew | monx: then your usb drive isnt' mounted |
| 17:18.26 | monx | hmmm |
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| 17:18.31 | monx | but it is seeing it, no? |
| 17:18.38 | stew | monx: yes |
| 17:18.52 | stew | monx: you can mount it with "mount /dev/whatever /path/to/desired/mountpoint" |
| 17:18.53 | |zeal| | monx: what's the problem, I missed your context, maybe I can help :) |
| 17:18.56 | monx | cause it is now seeing a usb device, a lacie big dickl |
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| 17:18.59 | stew | monx: or /msg dpkg automount |
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| 17:19.00 | twobitsprite | hello |
| 17:19.02 | monx | disk |
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| 17:19.17 | twobitsprite | why aren't any of the iso images on debian.org compressed? |
| 17:19.22 | |zeal| | monx: will you describe it again ? |
| 17:19.36 | monx | |zeal| ? |
| 17:20.03 | |zeal| | monx: I mean seems like you have some trouble with your disk ? |
| 17:20.10 | monx | i think for now i will give up on the dual mission to grab porn and my resume from this disk |
| 17:20.12 | monx | lol |
| 17:20.12 | Maulkin | twobitsprite: erm... what? |
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| 17:20.15 | |zeal| | what's the problem ? |
| 17:20.16 | monx | brb |
| 17:20.33 | |zeal| | monx: Porn !!! LOL |
| 17:20.34 | twobitsprite | Maulkin: ya know... zipped, gzipped, etc? they're all just .iso |
| 17:20.42 | Yanomami | why i have to run a command using a program ./ ? |
| 17:20.42 | monx | be right back, gonna finish off this pizza in the oven, then try and deal with this |
| 17:20.46 | twobitsprite | at least, all of the torrents |
| 17:21.00 | Yanomami | how can i install ser2net |
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| 17:21.33 | beardy | Yanomami: ./ means the current directory |
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| 17:22.04 | Arelis | How stable is Debian Lenny? |
| 17:22.06 | twobitsprite | !tell Yanomami about path |
| 17:22.06 | Yanomami | yeah i know but why to run the program i need to do that ? |
| 17:22.08 | chops | Does anyone have a recommendation for which of the bizarre profusion of IPSEC implementations for Debian I should use? |
| 17:22.08 | |zeal| | twobitsprite: the compress ratio for binary is low, no need to compress a iso |
| 17:22.26 | |zeal| | Arelis: I used it every day |
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| 17:22.41 | SlayerXP | chops: depends what you want, exactly |
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| 17:23.03 | chops | SlayerXP: I'm connecting as a client to a Cisco IPSEC server |
| 17:23.04 | Arelis | |zeal|, while updating resently? |
| 17:23.11 | Maulkin | twobitsprite: |
| 17:23.12 | Maulkin | -rw-r--r-- 1 maulkin maulkin 126322688 2003-10-30 09:48 TJ25-TJ35_CD.iso |
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| 17:23.14 | edulix | hi! |
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| 17:23.17 | Maulkin | -rw-r--r-- 1 maulkin maulkin 111M 2003-10-30 09:48 TJ25-TJ35_CD.iso.gz |
| 17:23.21 | Maulkin | That's probably why |
| 17:23.22 | SlayerXP | |zeal|: umm, nonsense. if a file within an iso images is 400Mb of zeroes, it'll compress just fine |
| 17:23.32 | Arelis | |zeal|, err, recklessly? |
| 17:23.46 | |zeal| | Arelis: sure, |
| 17:23.53 | gustavonarea | Hello. I often get this message "You have new mail in /home/myuser/Maildir/" in the console... How do I read it? Thanks in advance. |
| 17:24.01 | Maulkin | twobitsprite: and that's not even on a cd image. Most of the stuff on there is compressed already |
| 17:24.04 | Yanomami | i know about path |
| 17:24.11 | ShredZ_ | how would one go about fsck on the root filesystem when the machine is only accessible via ssh ? |
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| 17:24.27 | Yanomami | but when i create a new compiled file why i have to use ./ |
| 17:24.28 | twobitsprite | Yanomami: . is not in your path |
| 17:24.30 | _AusTiN_ | hi to all there |
| 17:24.43 | SlayerXP | ShredZ_: one wouldn't |
| 17:24.47 | _AusTiN_ | help plz - i need glibc-dev package, but apt dont see it |
| 17:24.53 | _AusTiN_ | what i need to do? |
| 17:25.02 | twobitsprite | _AusTiN_: did you update? |
| 17:25.08 | _AusTiN_ | apt-get update? |
| 17:25.12 | twobitsprite | yeah |
| 17:25.25 | _AusTiN_ | yes, just update |
| 17:25.30 | _AusTiN_ | updated* |
| 17:25.33 | stew | _AusTiN_: aptitude install build-essential |
| 17:25.38 | _AusTiN_ | already |
| 17:25.43 | edulix | I've got debian woody (well, DSL) and it has a version mismatch of perl(5.6, wants perl-base 5.6) and perl-base-5.8 installed |
| 17:25.47 | |zeal| | SlayerXP: can you give me an example on when a file in an debian iso is 400mb of zeroes ? |
| 17:25.57 | stew | edulix: please go to #damnsmalllinux for help with DSL |
| 17:26.02 | twobitsprite | edulix: DSL != debian |
| 17:26.07 | SlayerXP | |zeal|: a pre-allocated database |
| 17:26.13 | _AusTiN_ | stew: already installed |
| 17:26.14 | themill | SlayerXP: how many debian install images will have lots of nulls in them? given that the files are all .debs which contain either gz or bz2 files? |
| 17:26.22 | edulix | stew: uhm but the problem is with debian woody repositories |
| 17:26.26 | stew | _AusTiN_: then you have libc6-dev which is the glibc developement package |
| 17:26.42 | edulix | deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ woody main contrib non-free |
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| 17:26.50 | stew | edulix: sorry we are not able to help you, we don't support DSL |
| 17:26.59 | twobitsprite | edulix: it's still DSL and not supported here... mixing distros usually isn't a good idea |
| 17:27.02 | SlayerXP | the point is an ISO file will often compress, saying otherwise is just nonsense. |
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| 17:27.39 | _AusTiN_ | ../../../src/shared/Database/QueryResultMysql.h:29:19: error: mysql.h: No such file o r directory |
| 17:27.43 | _AusTiN_ | what i need to do? |
| 17:27.46 | mbuf | how can i check the .config values for the installed Debian kernel? |
| 17:27.49 | _AusTiN_ | this is make progress |
| 17:27.56 | twobitsprite | _AusTiN_: sounds like you need the mysql headers |
| 17:27.57 | stew | _AusTiN_: what are you trying to compile? |
| 17:28.02 | _AusTiN_ | MaNGoS |
| 17:28.09 | _AusTiN_ | yes, but how i can get them? |
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| 17:28.14 | themill | mbuf: /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 17:28.14 | stew | mbuf: its /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 17:28.24 | edulix | twobitsprite: it's not mixing distros, DsL uses debian woody, i'm not on crack |
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| 17:28.32 | mbuf | themill, stew, thanks |
| 17:28.34 | |zeal| | SlayerXP: well, I've never seen ONE iso compressed, even the stupid M$ disks |
| 17:28.39 | _AusTiN_ | twobitsprite: how i can get 'em ? |
| 17:28.39 | twobitsprite | edulix: have you tried asking the DSL channel? |
| 17:28.46 | edulix | twobitsprite: of course |
| 17:28.51 | twobitsprite | _AusTiN_: I don't know... try mysql-dev |
| 17:28.52 | stew | _AusTiN_: apt-cache search -n lib mysql dev |
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| 17:29.11 | _AusTiN_ | libghc6-hsql-mysql-dev - Multi-Database Interface System for Haskell |
| 17:29.11 | _AusTiN_ | libgnademysql-dev - GNat Ada Database Environment - MySQL programming interface |
| 17:29.11 | _AusTiN_ | liblua5.1-sql-mysql-dev - luasql development files for the lua language version 5.1 |
| 17:29.11 | _AusTiN_ | libmysql++-dev - mysql C++ library bindings (development) |
| 17:29.11 | _AusTiN_ | libmysql-ocaml-dev - OCaml bindings for MySql |
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| 17:29.16 | twobitsprite | edulix: plenty of distros are based on debian and I don't know about DSL, but most of them change things |
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| 17:29.27 | _AusTiN_ | oops XD |
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| 17:29.34 | _AusTiN_ | libmysql++-dev -- already installed |
| 17:29.42 | itchi | Someone already took a look to "vuurmuur"? A nice ncurse firewall setup. Not yet in Debian :-( |
| 17:29.52 | _AusTiN_ | libmysqlclient15-dev -- installed too |
| 17:30.04 | Maulkin | edulix: Debian uses the linux kernel. I don't expect lkml to know how to configure apache. Derived distros aren't on topic here, please see the link off /topic, and head over to #damnsmalllinux. Thanks. |
| 17:30.10 | edulix | twobitsprite: okay, but i tell you the version mismatch is in woody repositories. i don't have any other apt repositories |
| 17:30.38 | itchi | Well there's some install deb's on the website of it. But i wonder why this nice tool is not yet included in the repo |
| 17:30.45 | edulix | but if you don't want to help me that's fine, thanks anyway |
| 17:30.47 | Maulkin | edulix: Additionally, woody is no lonfer supported. |
| 17:30.56 | twobitsprite | edulix: if you think the problem is in woody then check the bug tracker... if you don't see it there, install woody (in a VM or something) and check there to make sure before filing a bug |
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| 17:30.58 | stew | edulix: no the version mismatch is on your system, not in the woody repositories. or else it would have been fixed sometime in the last 4 years since woody was released |
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| 17:31.05 | chops | Huh, I'm going to try ipsec-tools then, since it seems that they're based on the standard kernels instead of requiring a patch. Plus, they have a canonical-sounding name :-) |
| 17:31.12 | edulix | Maulkin: that's good to know, i was wondering if it was supported |
| 17:31.21 | Maulkin | edulix: it hasn't been for a couple of years. |
| 17:31.38 | Maulkin | #damnsmalllinux may be abel to support you. |
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| 17:32.18 | _AusTiN_ | so,anybody can help me with damn mysql headers? |
| 17:32.28 | stew | _AusTiN_: did you try installing the mysql development package? |
| 17:32.37 | |zeal| | itchi: set up your own rules, do not count on frontends :) |
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| 17:33.16 | themill | _AusTiN_: the package is libmysqlclient15-dev. You might need to tell ./configure where the mysql include files are (/usr/include/mysql not just /usr/include) |
| 17:33.16 | _AusTiN_ | stew: yes, it is installed --- libmysql++-dev && libmysqlclient15-dev |
| 17:33.34 | stew | _AusTiN_: what is the error you are getting? |
| 17:33.45 | itchi | |zeal|: I have wrote my own firewall script for my gateway, one for my clients too. But honesty, it's pain in the ass to manage it. A nice, and preferable firestarter replacement for my workstations may be vuurmuur... if it was packaged :-p |
| 17:33.52 | _AusTiN_ | ../../../src/shared/Database/QueryResultMysql.h:29:19: error: mysql.h: No such file o r directory |
| 17:34.22 | itchi | |zeal|: I like vuurmuur because it's to do in cli mode :-) |
| 17:34.38 | stew | _AusTiN_: what does "ls -l /usr/include/mysql/mysql.h" return? |
| 17:34.39 | itchi | Or are there any cli iptables front-end ? |
| 17:34.40 | _AusTiN_ | configure --prefix=/home/mangos --sysconfdir=/home/mangos/etc --enable-cli --enable-ra --datadir=/home/mangos |
| 17:34.48 | _AusTiN_ | this is my configure command |
| 17:34.52 | _AusTiN_ | ls ? sec |
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| 17:35.07 | _AusTiN_ | wow-server:/trunk# ls -l /usr/include/mysql/mysql.h |
| 17:35.07 | _AusTiN_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33723 2007-11-20 07:09 /usr/include/mysql/mysql.h |
| 17:35.07 | _AusTiN_ | wow-server:/trunk# |
| 17:35.14 | |zeal| | itchi: well, maybe you can compile out your love vuurmuurlove :) |
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| 17:35.33 | itchi | |zeal|: There are deb's on the website of vuurmuur |
| 17:35.36 | Tchinkatchuk | hi all |
| 17:35.37 | edulix | Maulkin: you're right. how can i install (downgrade) a specific version of a package with apt-get? |
| 17:35.45 | stew | _AusTiN_: so you mysql.h is installed, buy your makefile isn't finding it. perhaps you need to tell it the location of mysql (which is /usr), try "./configure --help". or read README or INSTALL |
| 17:35.57 | stew | edulix: for the last time, please go to #damnsmalllinujx |
| 17:36.06 | stew | err #damnsmalllinux |
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| 17:36.12 | |zeal| | itchi: oh, that's sweat, can you tell me the url, maybe I need it too |
| 17:36.20 | themill | _AusTiN_: your --prefix option is probably telling make to look in /home/mangos/include/mysql/mysql.h or something stupid like that |
| 17:36.31 | |zeal| | s/sweat/sweet |
| 17:36.35 | Tchinkatchuk | I have an issue using iptables. I am working with an etch debian. it was working and no one change something. Now I have : iptables v1.3.6: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) |
| 17:36.37 | itchi | |zeal|: I'm just wondering why this nice tool is not yet included in the repo. And i'm not alone http://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls |
| 17:36.42 | stew | nah, --prefix is install prefix |
| 17:36.45 | Maulkin | edulix: you don't downgrade. You want #damnsmalllinux |
| 17:36.56 | itchi | |zeal|: http://www.vuurmuur.org/trac/ |
| 17:37.16 | _AusTiN_ | themill - so if i will put my mysql.h at path you given, maybe it will compiles? |
| 17:37.26 | stew | _AusTiN_: no, don't move mysql.h |
| 17:37.29 | themill | _AusTiN_: unlikely. |
| 17:37.41 | _AusTiN_ | stew: what i need to do? help me...plz.. |
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| 17:37.49 | stew | _AusTiN_: so you mysql.h is installed, buy your makefile isn't finding it. perhaps you need to tell it the location of mysql (which is /usr), try "./configure --help". or read README or INSTALL |
| 17:37.51 | themill | _AusTiN_: as stew said, look at the output of ./configure --help and see what else you can do |
| 17:37.54 | |zeal| | itchi: hmm, thankx :) |
| 17:38.09 | monx | yes |zeal|, pron. LOL. And my resume. It is amazing the things that will lead man into getting things done, like the storage of said scintillating material on the same storage medium as that which stores ones resume |
| 17:38.12 | monx | oi vey |
| 17:38.24 | itchi | |zeal|: All other tools are just some "scripts". vuurmuur is a nice cli interface who is able to produce a final script too |
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| 17:38.30 | themill | _AusTiN_: it's likely that you either have an --mysql-location=/usr option or use --exec-prefix=/home/magnos rather than --prefix=... |
| 17:38.36 | itchi | |zeal|: |
| 17:38.38 | edulix | stew, Maulkin: so you have never done such a thing? now i'm using dsl, but i have other machines with ubuntu, and others with debian. all of them have apt, and i wonder how to do such a thing in debian,ubuntu,dsl or anything that runs apt |
| 17:38.38 | stew | monx: were you not able to mount the partition using the mount command? |
| 17:38.57 | _AusTiN_ | stew: http://pastebin.org/14571 |
| 17:39.01 | _AusTiN_ | can you look this? |
| 17:39.12 | itchi | |zeal|: vuurmuur is a interactive tool. Set the rules, apply and there you go ... |
| 17:39.22 | _AusTiN_ | i have never compiled soft before |
| 17:39.41 | |zeal| | itchi: hmm, sounds great, I will have it :) |
| 17:39.51 | itchi | vuurmuur == firewall. Literal translation Dutch - English |
| 17:40.10 | Maulkin | !tell edulix about downgrade |
| 17:40.41 | Maulkin | edulix: you don't downgrade. |
| 17:41.21 | |zeal| | monx: :), so what's your problem when dealing with your porn and resume at the same time |
| 17:41.37 | monx | nm |
| 17:41.41 | monx | i need to head to this interview |
| 17:41.54 | |zeal| | your disks start to tremble when seeing your porn lol |
| 17:41.58 | chops | Hm, so I have an old sarge system, and 'aptitude dist-upgrade' wants to install a very large number of packages ('aptitude upgrade' just gives me the security updates, as I'd expect). Is there an easy way to tell aptitude not to install any of these packages it wants to install? |
| 17:42.24 | themill | _AusTiN_: try running "CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/mysql ./configure" |
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| 17:42.38 | stew | chops: is your sources.list pointing to sarge? |
| 17:42.40 | msan | edulix: read about the prefrences file for apt. Its called "pinning". There is information in one of the online Debian manuals. I forget which one. I've done it before where I wanted to keep some things at a particular version. |
| 17:42.47 | themill | _AusTiN_: (that's a capital i, btw) |
| 17:42.48 | |zeal| | itchi: I have no idea of dutch, but I heard that It's much harder to learn than English, |
| 17:42.55 | chops | stew: It is |
| 17:43.02 | chops | Ronin: Sorry :-) |
| 17:43.02 | _AusTiN_ | themill: just run at the shell your rext? |
| 17:43.07 | _AusTiN_ | text* |
| 17:43.16 | chops | stew, Ronin: As I said, 'aptitude upgrade' gives only the security upgrades, as I'd expect. |
| 17:43.25 | stew | chops: becuase unless the machine is in-between releases, a dist-upgrade shouldn't be doing anything than an upgrade doesn't |
| 17:43.29 | Maulkin | chops: please pastebin your sources.list somewhere... |
| 17:43.30 | itchi | |zeal|: I'm Flemisch. That a very little variant of Dutch. |
| 17:43.34 | themill | _AusTiN_: yeah, in the same directory you last ran ./configure |
| 17:43.39 | stew | chops: can you show us what it wants to upgrade? |
| 17:43.48 | themill | _AusTiN_: but add in the rest of your options at the end of that too :) |
| 17:43.52 | _AusTiN_ | )) |
| 17:43.58 | _AusTiN_ | ok, i'll try now |
| 17:45.11 | |zeal| | itchi: I see, :) I'm Chinese, it takes me ten years learning English to be able to chat with you guys, so I just can not imagine another ten years with a second languange :D |
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| 17:45.36 | itchi | |zeal|: :-p |
| 17:45.48 | edulix | msan: thanks |
| 17:45.53 | chops | Maulkin, stew: http://pastebin.com/m491f391a |
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| 17:46.29 | tofaffy | !ubuntu |
| 17:46.29 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
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| 17:46.43 | cnadevelop | I am trying to do a search and replace thru a directory of html files I got this so far [ sed -e 's/src="..\/..\/..\/img\//src="/ig' *.html ] how do I make this output back in to the file it is reading? |
| 17:46.58 | chops | cnadevelop: -i |
| 17:46.59 | edulix | Maulkin: ok, so i use dpkg -i. but how can i download a specific version of a package with apt-get ? |
| 17:47.02 | chops | cnadevelop: Be careful :-) |
| 17:47.15 | stew | edulix: wrong channel |
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| 17:47.18 | cnadevelop | chops thx |
| 17:47.19 | _AusTiN_ | themill: so, my configure command looks so: |
| 17:47.21 | _AusTiN_ | [ /configure --prefix=/home/noob/mangos --sysconfdir=/home/noob/mangos/etc --enable-cli --enable-ra --datadir=/home/noob/mangos CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/mysql ./configure" |
| 17:47.26 | _AusTiN_ | yes? |
| 17:47.29 | themill | no |
| 17:47.40 | chops | _AusTiN_: Can you pastebin the output of './configure --help'? |
| 17:47.42 | stew | _AusTiN_: is there a README or INSTALL that might tell you what you should do? |
| 17:47.43 | Maulkin | chops: That's... odd |
| 17:47.49 | chops | Maulkin: It is |
| 17:47.58 | _AusTiN_ | chops: http://pastebin.org/14571 |
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| 17:48.09 | chops | Maulkin: I have a feeling that this system never had the post-install run of dselect/aptitude that it was supposed to have |
| 17:48.11 | themill | _AusTiN_: CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/mysql ./configure --prefix=/home/noob/mangos --sysconfdir=/home/noob/mangos/etc --enable-cli --enable-ra --datadir=/home/noob/mangos |
| 17:48.13 | |zeal| | itchi: Fortunately, computer language is much easier to learn, it won't take me more than 1 month to learn a new computer lanuage now :D |
| 17:48.15 | Maulkin | edulix: you can't. Get it from DSL. |
| 17:48.23 | _AusTiN_ | oh,thanks |
| 17:48.24 | _AusTiN_ | ^^ |
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| 17:48.37 | edulix | Maulkin: thanks for the info |
| 17:48.37 | Maulkin | chops: ahh, ok... that may make more sense... |
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| 17:48.51 | edulix | stew: there's no #apt channel |
| 17:48.58 | stew | edulix: no, there isn't |
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| 17:49.19 | chops | Maulkin, stew: Under the assumption that that's what's going on, is there a way to set aptitude's preferred set of packages to install to only what's currently installed? |
| 17:49.21 | |zeal| | !love itchi |
| 17:49.43 | edulix | stew: so apt questions go here |
| 17:49.45 | _AusTiN_ | themill: wow-server:/trunk# CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/mysql ./configure" --prefix=/home/noob/mangos --sysconfdir=/home/noob/mangos/etc --enable-cli --enable-ra --datadir=/home/noob/mangos |
| 17:49.45 | _AusTiN_ | > |
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| 17:50.03 | _AusTiN_ | after executing this line system shows ">" char |
| 17:50.14 | `Abo | how do I install tcl on debian? |
| 17:50.14 | Maulkin | edulix: No they don't. They go to whomever you got apt prom, so not us! |
| 17:50.17 | _AusTiN_ | (as if it is waiting for such data) |
| 17:50.19 | chops | Maulkin, stew: FWIW, dselect does not do that. I can go through update/select/install and it doesn't attempt to install anything. |
| 17:50.19 | themill | _AusTiN_: get rid of the " in the command |
| 17:50.30 | _AusTiN_ | oh,damn |
| 17:50.31 | _AusTiN_ | ^^^ |
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| 17:50.34 | stew | edulix: damnsmalllinux questions do not go here, only debian end-user support. you are not running debian. so please go to #damnsmalllinux. i'm sorry, but the topic of this channel is not negotiable |
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| 17:51.04 | _AusTiN_ | all ok, thx ^ |
| 17:51.11 | _AusTiN_ | now i'll try to make |
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| 17:51.43 | stew | chops: run "aptitude" then go the actions menu and try "clear pending actions" or whatever it is called |
| 17:51.58 | _AusTiN_ | http://pastebin.org/14573 |
| 17:51.59 | _AusTiN_ | wtf? |
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| 17:52.07 | _AusTiN_ | last approx 15 lines |
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| 17:52.54 | chops | stew: Hm, all I see is "Forget new packages" |
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| 17:53.05 | |zeal| | stew: you are the op ? |
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| 17:53.12 | screamingbytes | mornin |
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| 17:53.23 | CNU | hmm i don't really use debian (i'm on gentoo), but i wrote some really crap c++ code and now some people (most of them using debian) wants like binary packages :F can i make debian things from my non-debian machine? |
| 17:53.31 | stew | |zeal|: I am one of the channel ops here, if that is what you are asking. |
| 17:53.40 | chops | CNU: Basically, no |
| 17:53.54 | beardy | Why not? |
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| 17:54.09 | |zeal| | stew: Admire :) |
| 17:54.10 | \amethyst | CNU: you can set up a debian chroot and build the package there |
| 17:54.21 | stew | CNU: the best thing would be to create a small debian chroot that you could use for building. debootstrap (which i believe gentoo ships) would help you do this |
| 17:54.23 | _AusTiN_ | http://pastebin.org/14574 |
| 17:54.23 | CNU | hmm okay, i'll consider it |
| 17:54.32 | _AusTiN_ | what again? |
| 17:54.35 | CNU | thanks! |
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| 17:54.51 | screamingbytes | CNU: what software |
| 17:55.02 | screamingbytes | CNU: rather what crappy c++ code :) |
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| 17:55.14 | |zeal| | CNU: debootstrap --> chroot --> change configs --> apt-get kernel --> install grub --> reboot |
| 17:55.17 | CNU | it's a logging thing for znc (an irc bouncer). like one .so file |
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| 17:55.36 | themill | _AusTiN_: that looks like it completed properly |
| 17:55.39 | stew | CNU: the other option is to file a RFP (==request for packaging) in debian's bug tracker, /msg dpkg rfp ; /msg dpkg wnpp ; and hope that someone else packages it |
| 17:56.20 | CNU | oh, someone doing the most boring stuff for free. cute! |
| 17:56.30 | themill | only if it scratches an itch |
| 17:56.45 | _AusTiN_ | themill: it is OK - such lines of code? |
| 17:56.52 | |zeal| | maybe itchi should RFP for vuurmuur :) |
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| 17:57.35 | |zeal| | CNU: have fun with lenny |
| 17:57.54 | CNU | i will (when i find out what/who lenny is :p) |
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| 17:58.16 | |zeal| | !tell CNU about lenny |
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| 17:59.10 | themill | _AusTiN_: it's just telling you each step of the compilation procedure so you know what it did. |
| 17:59.11 | |zeal| | stew: How can someone become a op ? :) |
| 17:59.41 | LeGreffi3R | |zeal|> when an op make him an op. |
| 18:00.22 | |zeal| | LeGreffi3R: I c :) I wish I could be an op |
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| 18:00.53 | LeGreffi3R | |zeal|> the best way to become one , is to not ask for it... |
| 18:00.57 | Maulkin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.59 | LeGreffi3R | neither talk about it. |
| 18:01.19 | simonrvn | when they're annointed as such :P |
| 18:01.19 | LeGreffi3R | (good things come to those who waits) |
| 18:01.28 | chops | stew: Well, _now_ I know more or less the way to go :-/ |
| 18:01.29 | LeGreffi3R | -s |
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| 18:01.48 | chops | stew: Go to aptitude, hit 'g', go to 'Packages to be installed' and hit _, go to 'Packages to be removed' and hit + |
| 18:01.50 | chops | stew: :-) |
| 18:01.56 | |zeal| | LeGreffi3R: OMG, My dream collapses :¡ã |
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| 18:01.58 | stew | there you go |
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| 18:02.09 | stew | chops: perhaps forget new would do it? |
| 18:02.17 | chops | stew: Naw, tried that |
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| 18:03.05 | chops | stew: It looks like I may have done something wrong -- my way wound up removing a ton of libraries and other dependency-y things that I didn't want anyway, which I didn't mean to do. But anyway, 'aptitude dist-upgrade' now does nothing exactly like I want it to. |
| 18:03.17 | chops | Maulkin, stew: Thanks for your help |
| 18:04.58 | |zeal| | stew: please don't kick me, I promise to be a good good boy, answering questions as best as I can :) |
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| 18:05.58 | |zeal| | and not asking boring questions. ;) |
| 18:06.17 | Maulkin | |zeal|: you don't apply to be an op, you get invited. It's a VERY long wait. You're best off learning about Debian, packaging something, getting it sponsored, going through NM to be a DD and being one of the core teams. At that point, you may get ops |
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| 18:07.11 | |zeal| | Maulkin: oh, seems a long long way :) |
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| 18:07.48 | Guerin | but probably not |
| 18:08.03 | stew | Maulkin: can i become DD plz |
| 18:08.08 | dutchfish | hi, i am trying to get connected to a drac card with ipmitools, however the system freezes completely, any suggestions? |
| 18:08.17 | Maulkin | stew: not until I get a pony |
| 18:08.20 | |zeal| | I always think one should contribute to community |
| 18:08.24 | Guerin | !nopony Maulkin |
| 18:08.24 | dpkg | Maulkin: http://sc.tri-bit.com/images/2/23/pony.jpg |
| 18:08.29 | stew | !pony Maulkin |
| 18:08.30 | Judge-- | Hello guys. Could anyone help me with the grep command? I need to find the files that contain a specif word (like in here this::is::myword::here () ), and I'm using the grep with the following parameters grep -i -G -n -H *word*, but it doesn't works... |
| 18:08.39 | simonrvn | so that's why... figured as much |
| 18:09.09 | Maulkin | http://loldebian.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/pony-small1.png?w=400&h=534 |
| 18:09.24 | Guerin | Judge--: you've not explained exactly what you want. You want the names of all files containing myword? |
| 18:09.30 | themill | |zeal|: if being an op is something you want, then #debian probably doesn't want you to be an op. It's not a pleasant task and doesn't exactly have the romance attached to it that you might think. |
| 18:09.49 | Judge-- | Guerin Yes. I need to find in wich file a function was defined and written |
| 18:10.04 | Guerin | Judge--: rgrep myword /some/path |
| 18:10.28 | Judge-- | Guerin in will include the cases::like::this? |
| 18:10.36 | |zeal| | themill: Well, actually I am making more fun to this channel :P, I'd love to chat and joking , that's enough,hah |
| 18:10.37 | Guerin | Judge--: sure will. |
| 18:10.47 | Judge-- | ok, thank you. |
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| 18:11.15 | Guerin | Maulkin: pwnied |
| 18:11.23 | themill | dpkg: nickometer |zeal| |
| 18:11.24 | dpkg | '|zeal|' is 26.000% lame, themill |
| 18:11.29 | thedoc2097 | Hi people there! I need some help! I have problems with the grub bootloader |
| 18:11.30 | pleed | Is it possible to encrypt a file with gpg with a symmetric key from a file instead of a passphrase? |
| 18:11.32 | themill | |zeal|: ahh.. well, that's a problem too |
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| 18:11.53 | Guerin | pleed: that's a very bad idea indeed. |
| 18:12.06 | pleed | Guerin: i know. is it possible? |
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| 18:12.22 | Guerin | pleed: anything's possible. I don't know HOW possible this is, though. |
| 18:12.26 | |zeal| | themill: :) |
| 18:12.39 | pleed | Guerin: me not too. that s why i m asking. |
| 18:12.39 | themill | !rot 13 |
| 18:12.39 | dpkg | 13 |
| 18:12.44 | themill | :( |
| 18:12.44 | Guerin | pleed: i'd just bencode it or something |
| 18:12.54 | pleed | bencode? |
| 18:13.02 | Guerin | pleed: encode it to base64 |
| 18:13.33 | Guerin | looks like encrypted, but isn't really random. Since security clearly isn't a concern. |
| 18:14.14 | |zeal| | Well, actually I am thinking is that I am daily benifiting from others' labor, and I should do sth to help others, and that makes me feel good. |
| 18:14.22 | themill | or you could bzip2 it with a password... |
| 18:14.33 | Guerin | |zeal|: 1. lurk in here and help 2. change your nick so it doesn't start with | |
| 18:14.35 | themill | because *that's* secure ... |
| 18:15.06 | |zeal| | Guerin: well, I want to be zeal, but 'zeal' is already taken |
| 18:15.19 | Guerin | NOFP |
| 18:15.26 | Guerin | we just don't like nicks which are effort to type |
| 18:15.39 | Ronin | |zeal|: so add something after zeal, the | is a pain to start with |
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| 18:16.09 | Ronin | ya we're lazy typers :) |
| 18:16.26 | pleed | Guerin: why shall i encode what to base64? |
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| 18:16.50 | Guerin | pleed: because it sounds like you want it to be sort-of encrypted, but don't much care about security |
| 18:16.54 | zealo | Ronin: hmm, I thinks it's better now :) |
| 18:17.01 | Eulex | I believe it's called 'irony' ;P |
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| 18:17.18 | themill | dpkg: nickometer zealo |
| 18:17.19 | dpkg | 'zealo' is 0.000% lame, themill |
| 18:17.25 | themill | much better :) |
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| 18:17.43 | pleed | Guerin: you mean because entering a passphrase is more secure not? |
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| 18:18.08 | zealo | Guerin: sort-of encrypted, but don't much care about security......... |
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| 18:18.12 | Guerin | pleed: i mean storing your passphrase in a file and using it that way is not secure. |
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| 18:19.16 | zealo | base64 is not for encryption, only seems like encrypted |
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| 18:19.28 | pleed | i m confused now |
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| 18:19.37 | themill | dpkg: confuse pleed |
| 18:19.37 | Guerin | pleed: you were confused before, I think. |
| 18:19.37 | dpkg | Yes, where is our ferret yesterday, pleed? shirts of the democracy of mongolia with extra herring |
| 18:19.52 | ferret | o.o |
| 18:19.52 | pleed | i just would like to know how to encrypt a file symmetrically using a keyfile with GPG |
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| 18:20.13 | Guerin | the only benefit of gpg is cryptographic security. If you store the key locally, you lose that. |
| 18:20.21 | Guerin | hence: use something else |
| 18:20.27 | bart[nothere] | Hi there .. I have a debian server and for some reason last night I could no longer accept emails from out-side sources. What can be causing this? |
| 18:20.35 | bart[nothere] | Emails from within the same domain are working fine |
| 18:20.43 | zealo | pleed: I dont think GPG is for symmetric encryption |
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| 18:20.57 | \amethyst | pleed: do the various --passphrase* command-line options not work for you? |
| 18:20.58 | exks | heyo, anyone here ever heard of the (toy) app "slow locomotive"? |
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| 18:21.04 | exks | I'm looking for it |
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| 18:21.14 | moldy | hi |
| 18:21.20 | moldy | where does openldap store its database on debian? |
| 18:21.34 | \amethyst | moldy: /var/lib/ldap |
| 18:21.35 | dutchfish | bart[nothere], postfix? |
| 18:21.45 | moldy | \amethyst: which files do i copy for a backup? |
| 18:21.55 | pleed | \amethyst: didnt know there is one... i think a --passphrase 'cat keyfile' will do the job |
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| 18:22.02 | zealo | lostsanity: the one-way hash fucntion used by PKI is not symmetric |
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| 18:22.42 | zealo | sorry, lostsanity |
| 18:22.54 | zealo | that's @pleed: |
| 18:23.16 | trumpen | I have installed ntop (a network traffic analyzer) and I access to its reports by pointing the browser to localhost:3000. Is there a different way of using it? A cli command maybe? |
| 18:23.18 | \amethyst | pleed: NO |
| 18:23.26 | spq | how can i determine why a process hangs? |
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| 18:23.37 | spq | with strace -p <pid> it does not hanganymore |
| 18:23.40 | \amethyst | pleed: --passphrase-file is a lot more secure than that |
| 18:23.50 | screamingbytes | is anyone aware of a file name length limit when using scp? |
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| 18:24.01 | \amethyst | pleed: the problem is, if you do --passphrase whatever anyone who can run ps on your system can see your passphrase |
| 18:24.20 | \amethyst | pleed: whereas with --passphrase-file they also have to be able to read the file |
| 18:24.31 | zealo | \amethyst: yeah, ur right, that's the problem |
| 18:24.31 | bart[nothere] | dutchfish - What do you mean by postfix? |
| 18:24.37 | pleed | \amethyst: ah thanks you re right |
| 18:24.50 | dutchfish | bart[nothere], is your receiving mailserver postfix, or what? |
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| 18:25.25 | bart[nothere] | I'm not too familiar with it .. how can I find this out? (Note I am using DirectAdmin control panel) |
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| 18:25.44 | Guerin | bart[nothere]: scrap directadmin, read the logs. |
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| 18:26.05 | Guerin | bart[nothere]: either that, or hire a competent admin. |
| 18:26.26 | dutchfish | bart[nothere], no idee, but if i am correct it uses qmail, also check if a firewall in front blocks port 25, ask the directadmin support |
| 18:26.44 | \amethyst | moldy: the best way to make a backup is to generate an ldif |
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| 18:27.14 | moldy | \amethyst: i did that |
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| 18:27.31 | moldy | \amethyst: i wanted to have an additional binary backup just in case... i just copied the whole dir now |
| 18:27.32 | bart[nothere] | Guerin - No need for that kind of comments .. I am doing this as a project to learn |
| 18:27.44 | \amethyst | moldy: that's probably sufficient |
| 18:27.53 | Lunar_Lamp | I just deleted a very large file, 42gb, and I don't appear to have the space reclaimed that I should have done by deleting it (i.e. no extra space) |
| 18:28.04 | zealo | dpkg: nickometer bart[nothere] |
| 18:28.05 | dpkg | 'bart[nothere]' is 10.000% lame, zealo |
| 18:28.19 | themill | Lunar_Lamp: is that file still open by anything? |
| 18:28.22 | \amethyst | Lunar_Lamp: is the file currently open ? |
| 18:28.44 | Lunar_Lamp | \amethyst, themill, aha! Probably. Thanks, heh, it's always the obvious answer! |
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| 18:29.07 | Guerin | bart[nothere]: cool! The only way to learn is to do things right; viz: read the logs, scrap the control panel, and get to know your system. |
| 18:29.11 | \amethyst | an open FD counts as a link for the purposes of unlink freeing the data |
| 18:29.15 | themill | Lunar_Lamp: np :) |
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| 18:34.00 | bart[nothere] | Ok .. checking the logs, for sure only emails internally are going through |
| 18:35.06 | Guerin | bart[nothere]: ok. Look at ther logs for a remote server and see why they're being rejected/deferred/etc. |
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| 18:36.23 | zealo | logs rocks |
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| 18:44.50 | screamingbytes | wholy crud what happened |
| 18:44.56 | screamingbytes | net split? |
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| 18:45.50 | screamingbytes | i hate nut splitz |
| 18:46.13 | Ronin | screamingbytes: ignore joins parts quits |
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| 18:48.04 | SamuraiDio | how can i decompress a *.sit file? |
| 18:48.24 | zealo | SamuraiDio: file *.sit and see what type |
| 18:48.34 | \amethyst | zealo: stuffit I'd imagine |
| 18:49.07 | SamuraiDio | animals.sit: StuffIt Archive (data) : T! |
| 18:49.34 | SamuraiDio | zealo, i havent find a free linux app to extract its contents |
| 18:49.40 | SamuraiDio | is there someone? |
| 18:49.40 | Guerin | SamuraiDio: buy a mac |
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| 18:49.54 | zealo | \amethyst: well, no idea, either :( |
| 18:50.05 | SamuraiDio | Guerin, its not as easy on brazil, a little expensive here :( |
| 18:50.19 | Guerin | SamuraiDio: same everywhere! |
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| 18:50.47 | zealo | SamuraiDio: install a cracked OS X on pc ? :P |
| 18:50.55 | \amethyst | SamuraiDio: maybe you can get this to work http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/tex/CTAN/archive-tools/unstuff/ |
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| 18:51.02 | SamuraiDio | zealo, its not a good ideia |
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| 18:51.08 | bluevenom | I am trying to install debian on a biostar p4m900 mobo |
| 18:51.15 | bluevenom | its not detecting the hd |
| 18:51.16 | SamuraiDio | \amethyst, tnx |
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| 18:51.25 | Guerin | SamuraiDio: i'd just return it to the person who made it saying `please convert this to a non-shit format' |
| 18:52.04 | zealo | Guerin: that's a good choice,hah |
| 18:52.20 | zealo | I mean your right |
| 18:52.24 | bluevenom | I am assuming the moo supports serial ata 2 since it has a serial ata 2 connection |
| 18:52.31 | bluevenom | mobo |
| 18:52.39 | Guerin | bluevenom: what branch of debian? |
| 18:53.05 | screamingbytes | Ronin: tyvm, i wasnt aware of that cmd, -CRAP and -CTCPCRAP or whatever i have on already |
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| 18:53.17 | zealo | bluevenom: as long as your kernel support it..... |
| 18:53.24 | bluevenom | Guerin: etch |
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| 18:53.32 | Ronin | screamingbytes: cuts down nicely on the nice, especially those damn bot floods we get |
| 18:53.39 | Guerin | bluevenom: /msg dpkg kmuto, see if one of those installers will work. |
| 18:53.46 | Guerin | bluevenom: they have newer kernels. |
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| 18:54.13 | screamingbytes | Ronin: indeed, i am already pleasantly enjoying hte difference :) |
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| 18:55.09 | zealo | what's the best irc client in debian ? |
| 18:55.22 | mjd- | sx1 |
| 18:55.33 | Guerin | !best irc client |
| 18:55.34 | dpkg | [irssi] the best irc client ever, or found in the irssi-text package on sarge, or irssi on etch |
| 18:55.35 | sep | !better |
| 18:55.35 | dpkg | methinks better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 18:55.55 | Ronin | zealo: the one you like of course |
| 18:55.58 | sep | zealo, if you want a pointy-clickety thing, try xchat2 |
| 18:56.01 | screamingbytes | Ronin: im forcing myself to learn irssi, im tired of xchat, so windows and splitting, swithcing logging etc are all very new to me right now |
| 18:56.12 | Guerin | what's to learn? |
| 18:56.29 | SamuraiDio | \amethyst, isnt there packed soources for it? |
| 18:56.30 | Guerin | it has one input field |
| 18:56.41 | zealo | thanks all |
| 18:57.02 | screamingbytes | Guerin: yes same as xchat, but it is signifigantly more configureable |
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| 18:57.28 | seisen | weechat is easier to setup than irssi is |
| 18:57.30 | glutes | Q: I am running Debian etch, when I plugged in a usb device such as DV or USB mass storage or mobile phone, most of the time, it did not response. "lsusb" did not list the device too. after a reboot with the device plugged in will be helpful, but I don't like reboot. Any advise for me? |
| 18:57.30 | Guerin | welll ... not really. If it was like xchat it'd be shit |
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| 18:58.15 | screamingbytes | Guerin: i have a cpl of split windows one for hilights only, 2 channels im watching, and quit a few more things im still learning. It is much more powerful and nicer in the end. Logging is awesome |
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| 18:58.44 | screamingbytes | its nothign at all like Xchat, except that its an irc client |
| 18:58.49 | bluevenom | Guerin: how can I get a cd with the latest kernel ? |
| 18:58.54 | zealo | glutes: do you have HAL and udev installed |
| 18:59.13 | bluevenom | ie.. my internet isnt working using a windows laptop connected to friends wireless accross the street |
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| 18:59.43 | glutes | zealo: yes. I am using KDE. |
| 19:00.36 | zealo | glutes: sometimes there is access control in hal events, do kde pop up dialogs when you connect your usb disk ? |
| 19:00.37 | sep | bluevenom, use the kmuto images ? (ask dpkg about kmuto) |
| 19:01.13 | zealo | bluevenom: apt-cache search linux image |
| 19:01.13 | kenjy | I change a domain and a ip in my /etc/hosts but my debian its taking the dns server info, is there a dns cache and if it is true how can I clean it? |
| 19:01.34 | glutes | zealo: I think it's not the HAL problem. because "lsusb" list nothing. |
| 19:02.01 | zealo | glutes: hmm, make sense. dmesg ? |
| 19:02.39 | glutes | usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 |
| 19:02.39 | glutes | usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice |
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| 19:03.09 | glutes | zealo: sorry, the paste automatically add a return code. |
| 19:03.27 | zealo | !tell glutes about paste |
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| 19:03.59 | zealo | glutes: I am leaving , maybe someon else can help you out, really sorry :) |
| 19:04.08 | glutes | zealo: thanks a lot |
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| 19:04.26 | J_P | hi all |
| 19:04.31 | zealo | glutes: np :) |
| 19:06.19 | J_P | people, I have one server with RAID1 (md0 = /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1) via software on debian and I would like passa fsck to see if there are some badblocks. My question is: I will go to linux single (init 1) and I need run fsck on /dev/md0 or in /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 ? |
| 19:06.31 | kenjy | how can I overlay the /etc/hosts info to the dns info? |
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| 19:07.59 | \amethyst | kenjy: are you running nscd ? |
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| 19:08.21 | \amethyst | kenjy: also, how are you looking up the domain? |
| 19:08.35 | fas3r | it's possible to use perfparse with centreon ? |
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| 19:09.26 | kenjy | \amethst: no, I have a domain domain.org with a ip1, I need to change it ip1 to ip2 in one machine, I tryed ussing /etc/hosts but it don't work, it take the DNS server info |
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| 19:09.37 | MegaPucko | is a intel core quad cpu considered a ia64 of i386? |
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| 19:09.58 | \amethyst | kenjy: how are you testing whether it works? |
| 19:10.15 | \amethyst | kenjy: what does getent hosts domain.org say? |
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| 19:12.29 | kenjy | amethst: domain.org have the ip 132.247.1.55, I get it from the DNS but I need to test another server so I just edited /etc/hosts/ in my PC to do a test with the new IP but after editing it If I use firefox I browse the domain and 132.247.1.55 its answering |
| 19:12.40 | \amethyst | MegaPucko: i386 or amd64 if it's 64-bit |
| 19:12.48 | \amethyst | MegaPucko: ia64 is itanium |
| 19:13.16 | MegaPucko | so amd64 works for intels 64bit? |
| 19:13.41 | \amethyst | MegaPucko: yes. Intel copied AMD's instruction set architecture |
| 19:13.47 | MegaPucko | ok |
| 19:13.58 | kenjy | amethyst: domain.org have the ip 132.247.1.55, I get it from the DNS but I need to test another server so I just edited /etc/hosts/ in my PC to do a test with the new IP but after editing it If I use firefox I browse the domain and 132.247.1.55 its answering |
| 19:14.04 | MegaPucko | oh, is a intel core2 quad, any difference? |
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| 19:14.06 | kenjy | \amethyst: domain.org have the ip 132.247.1.55, I get it from the DNS but I need to test another server so I just edited /etc/hosts/ in my PC to do a test with the new IP but after editing it If I use firefox I browse the domain and 132.247.1.55 its answering |
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| 19:14.27 | \amethyst | kenjy: I saw it the second time, but thanks |
| 19:14.37 | \amethyst | kenjy: what does getent hosts domain.org say? |
| 19:14.51 | kenjy | \amethyst: sorry (your nick its hard to type xD) |
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| 19:16.09 | kenjy | \amethyst: getent hosts domain.org show the new ip but host domain.org show the old ip |
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| 19:16.34 | namit | for some reason when i send email from cront it coming from root@org can anyone tell me why this is happening? |
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| 19:17.21 | k1ckn1ck | Hi, curretnyl running debian, after checking phpsysinfo, it appears my linux server is running memory using 98% of 512mb, is there anyway to check what is hammering it |
| 19:17.33 | GhostInTheShell | namit: what is in the /etc/mailname? |
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| 19:17.50 | namit | GhostInTheShell: namit.org |
| 19:17.52 | \amethyst | kenjy: hm... host is supposed to show the old IP, because it doesn't look at /etc/hosts |
| 19:17.58 | GhostInTheShell | hmm |
| 19:18.04 | \amethyst | kenjy: what about ping domain.org ? does that use the new IP? |
| 19:18.28 | namit | GhostInTheShell: the cron is running logwatch |
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| 19:19.24 | namit | k1ckn1ck: run top |
| 19:19.35 | GhostInTheShell | namit: when you send a mail from root to other user through "mail" command does it also appears from root@org? |
| 19:20.00 | GhostInTheShell | or only from cron? |
| 19:20.03 | \amethyst | hmm |
| 19:20.38 | screamingbytes | doesn't the crontab mail entry override all others? if there is one |
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| 19:20.45 | lurch | what kernel do i have to install for 2 processor support and 8 gigs of ram and how do i do it? |
| 19:20.45 | namit | GhostInTheShell: yes when I send it from mail it also is root@namit.org |
| 19:21.03 | SaldainiS | Hello people :* |
| 19:22.23 | kenjy | \amethyst: tnks it works |
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| 19:22.58 | \amethyst | kenjy: hm, so is firefox still being dumb and ignoring hosts? |
| 19:23.05 | \amethyst | kenjy: it might have been caching the lookup itself |
| 19:23.09 | k1ckn1ck | what commands do i use with either top or htop |
| 19:23.12 | \amethyst | web browsers do silly things like that |
| 19:23.45 | GhostInTheShell | namit: i'm out of ideas at the moment |
| 19:23.46 | \amethyst | k1ckn1ck: press capital M in top or htop to sort by memory usage |
| 19:24.16 | namit | GhostInTheShell: k thanks will look about and see |
| 19:24.33 | \amethyst | k1ckn1ck: hm... what does it say about "buffers" and "cache"? |
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| 19:25.24 | k1ckn1ck | buffer 3% |
| 19:25.27 | k1ckn1ck | cache 47% |
| 19:26.09 | \amethyst | k1ckn1ck: so only half (98% - (47+3)%) of your memory is really "in use" |
| 19:26.35 | \amethyst | k1ckn1ck: the other half (47% + 3%) is being used as disk cache |
| 19:26.52 | \amethyst | k1ckn1ck: that memory will be automatically freed as programs need more memory |
| 19:27.18 | \amethyst | k1ckn1ck: Unused memory is wasted memory :) |
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| 19:28.01 | Davey | anyone know, off the top of their head, the package in which apxs2 resides? |
| 19:28.27 | \amethyst | Davey: apache2-*-dev |
| 19:28.32 | \amethyst | !apt-file |
| 19:28.32 | dpkg | apt-file is probably a utility used to find which package owns a given file, or list files in a package, see also <auto-apt> and <pdo>, or use apt-file: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename. |
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| 19:29.37 | Davey | \amethyst: OK, new question, how do I find out the *current* apache2 package installed? :) |
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| 19:30.17 | \amethyst | Davey: dpkg -l apache2-mpm-* | grep ^.i |
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| 19:31.04 | \amethyst | Davey: (I'm assuming your question was about how to know which which MPM you're using and not just which version of apache) |
| 19:31.28 | \amethyst | though it will show you the version, too |
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| 19:32.39 | Davey | \amethyst: actually, it revealed both |
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| 19:36.11 | seisen | why can't I access the cups web interface remotely on my laptop, the printer server is running debian and I have changed the settings |
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| 19:39.09 | themill | seisen: remote access to the cups web interface is disabled by default. see /etc/cups/cupsd.conf |
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| 19:40.14 | seisen | i changed the settings so it should allow me to do |
| 19:41.07 | \amethyst | seisen: could you put your cupsd.conf in a pastebin? |
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| 19:41.13 | seisen | ya |
| 19:41.29 | Aleksander-pl | Hello. Is there Adobe Reader package for Debian AMD64? |
| 19:42.24 | themill | Aleksander-pl: if there is, it will be on debian-multimedia.org |
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| 19:43.32 | \amethyst | Aleksander-pl: Doubtful---last I heard Adobe hadn't released a 64-bit version yet... you could get the 32-bit version to run under nspluginwrapper maybe (in lenny, probably not etch), but it would be a pain |
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| 19:43.42 | nadal | hello |
| 19:44.00 | nadal | can somebody tell me which package is the one shipping Xfbdev or Xvesa? |
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| 19:44.22 | \amethyst | Aleksander-pl: Have you tried some of the free PDF readers like evince, xpdf, gv ? |
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| 19:45.09 | spx2 | is there any site/program that can tell in wich package there is a certain file ? |
| 19:45.09 | Ronin | too slow \amethyst |
| 19:45.09 | spx2 | is there any application who can search through .debs ? |
| 19:45.40 | spx2 | nadal: http://www.google.ro/search?hl=ro&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=kgz&q=xfbdev+deb+package&btnG=C%C4%83utare&meta=lr%3Dlang_en |
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| 19:45.53 | \amethyst | spx2: apt-file |
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| 19:46.18 | nadal | oh thanks spx2, I hadn't tried that... |
| 19:46.21 | spx2 | nadal: use apt-file |
| 19:46.41 | muhoo | how do i make icedove see the java JRE i installed into /usr/local/jre1.6.0_03 ? |
| 19:46.47 | seisen | \amethyst: http://pastebin.com/d4885187d |
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| 19:47.22 | badcfe | muhoo: make a symlink from icedove plugin dir. |
| 19:47.29 | \amethyst | seisen: and what IP are you trying to connect from? |
| 19:47.29 | spx2 | muhoo: you don't ,use opera instead |
| 19:47.46 | muhoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.02 | muhoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.12 | stew | muhoo: is there a reason that you are installing the jre into /usr/local instead of installing it using apt-get/aptitude |
| 19:48.19 | seisen | well my laptop is wireless so what ever the dhcp gives it which I believe is 192.168.0.100 |
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| 19:48.38 | muhoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.38 | \amethyst | seisen: ohm, this is a problem |
| 19:48.45 | \amethyst | seisen: # |
| 19:48.46 | \amethyst | Listen 192.168.0.*:631 |
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| 19:49.03 | \amethyst | seisen: that should be the local IP address of the server |
| 19:49.22 | muhoo | huh, oh wow, the sun version *is* in debian! cool! |
| 19:49.34 | stew | muhoo: yes, the sun version is pacakged: http://packages.debian.org/sun-java6-plugin |
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| 19:49.35 | \amethyst | seisen: I don't think you can use wildcards like that---either just *:port or the whole ip:port |
| 19:49.45 | stew | muhoo: no, its not in debian, but debian provides packages for it |
| 19:49.54 | muhoo | cool, i'll do that then |
| 19:50.14 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 19:50.24 | teclo- | hmmm... sorry but, where the hell did acidrip go ? I did add http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main to my /etc/apt/sources.list .. still aptitude acidrip says it can't find the package.... |
| 19:51.07 | seisen | thanks \amethyst that worked, I think Ubuntu fried my brain |
| 19:51.10 | \amethyst | seisen: likewise, for the Allow lines, I think you need: Allow 192.168.0.0/24 and Allow localhost on separate lines |
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| 19:52.07 | Ronin | teclo-: non-free perhaps |
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| 19:52.33 | teclo- | Ronin: uhhh but with which repository ? |
| 19:52.36 | \amethyst | teclo-: did you do aptitude update ? |
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| 19:52.41 | Ronin | !why is acidrip not in testing |
| 19:52.41 | dpkg | acidrip is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=acidrip |
| 19:52.53 | teclo- | \amethyst: several times. And I added the debian-multimedia-keyring |
| 19:52.54 | \amethyst | Ronin: it's from debian-multimedia |
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| 19:53.22 | \amethyst | teclo-: what architecture/distribution? |
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| 19:53.41 | teclo- | \amethyst: x86, lenny |
| 19:53.59 | \amethyst | teclo-: acidrip isn't in the debian-mulitmedia Lenny i386 archive |
| 19:54.04 | \amethyst | teclo-: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/ |
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| 19:54.36 | \amethyst | teclo-: it's in their Etch archive |
| 19:55.03 | \amethyst | teclo-: and, from the looks of the dependencies, you should be able to get that version working in lenny---the dependencies aren't particularly tight |
| 19:55.08 | \amethyst | teclo-: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/package/acidrip.php |
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| 19:56.08 | teclo- | \amethyst: indeed, perl, libgtk2, lsdvd, mplayer |
| 19:56.12 | teclo- | and mencoder |
| 19:56.27 | teclo- | \amethyst: would be easier if someone could create an acidrip package for lenny heh :) |
| 19:56.30 | \amethyst | teclo-: and all the versioned dependencies are >= rather than < |
| 19:57.24 | teclo- | \amethyst: yeah but I know nothing about the building of packages |
| 19:57.25 | \amethyst | teclo-: this version probably works in lenny.... if os they'd just have to copy the package to the other dists on debian-multimedia.org |
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| 19:57.57 | teclo- | \amethyst: yeah I guess I should write to the fellows at debian-multimedia.org about it... hm... let's try to find the email |
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| 19:58.04 | \amethyst | teclo-: try downloading the .deb (the "direct package download" link) and installing with dpkg -i |
| 19:58.11 | \amethyst | teclo-: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/a/acidrip/acidrip_0.14-0.2_all.deb |
| 19:58.55 | teclo- | \amethyst: hmmm I don't think I'm gonna do that, I don't wanna break stuff on this nice lenny install :) |
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| 19:59.24 | \amethyst | teclo-: you can remove the package if it causes any problems |
| 20:00.26 | \amethyst | teclo-: since every package and version it depends on is also in lenny, you don't have to worry about it dragging in broken conflicting package versions |
| 20:00.48 | \amethyst | s/in lenny/in lenny or debian-multimedia's lenny repo/ |
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| 20:01.09 | ignition_machine | hi alli |
| 20:01.13 | ignition_machine | all* |
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| 20:02.06 | dserban | could someone tell me what to check if a program that uses opengl opens to a larger screen resolution than the actual viewport? I'm using fluxbox wm, latest debian packages for the nvidia driver and of course... running sid. |
| 20:03.10 | simonrvn | tell it to make it smaller, most of those you can set the window size |
| 20:03.19 | dbe | How can I check the version of ncurses? |
| 20:03.40 | simonrvn | with dpkg |
| 20:04.11 | \amethyst | dbe: dpkg -l libncurses? | grep ^.i |
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| 20:05.06 | dbe | Thanks |
| 20:05.14 | trombo | hi is there a command line tool to test pop3s, something like swaks for smtp? tia |
| 20:05.27 | ignition_machine | i'm having quite a problem: want to install debian on a compaq pentium 1 laptop. probably from 1995 or so. no cd-rom drive, but a floppy drive. netinstall via floppy images fails because it can't find the appropriate NIC driver. the card is a PCMCIA ethernetcard: xircom is the brand. actually i see xircom drivers in the list where i can choose from but still it doesn't recognize the NIC. is there _any_ way to get debian onto this machin |
| 20:05.43 | muhoo | fuck |
| 20:05.53 | muhoo | there *is* no java plugin in the debian java packages! |
| 20:06.05 | muhoo | libjavaplugin_oji.so ? no such thing |
| 20:06.09 | stew | !info sun-java6-plugin |
| 20:06.11 | \amethyst | muhoo: sun-java6-plugin ? |
| 20:06.12 | dpkg | sun-java6-plugin: (The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6), section non-free/web, is optional. Version: 6-03-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 80 kB |
| 20:06.19 | stew | muhoo: which package did you install? |
| 20:06.35 | muhoo | "Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 20:06.39 | muhoo | " |
| 20:06.55 | \amethyst | muhoo: what architecture? |
| 20:06.59 | muhoo | amd64 |
| 20:07.01 | \amethyst | muhoo: oh |
| 20:07.08 | \amethyst | muhoo: there is no 64-bit plugin |
| 20:07.11 | stew | muhoo: there is no sun java plugin for amd64 |
| 20:07.12 | muhoo | FUCK! |
| 20:07.14 | muhoo | goddammit |
| 20:07.31 | muhoo | i am so tired of this shit |
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| 20:07.36 | muhoo | :-( |
| 20:07.38 | ignition_machine | muhoo it would be nice to watch the language in here if you expect help i guess |
| 20:07.44 | stew | muhoo: there is gcjwebplugin |
| 20:07.52 | stew | muhoo: or there is nspluginwrapper |
| 20:08.12 | muhoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.14 | \amethyst | getting nspluginwrapper to work might be a bit difficult |
| 20:08.27 | muhoo | i tried nspluginwrapper a long while ago, with no success |
| 20:08.34 | \amethyst | because you'd still have to install a 32-bit java on amd64, which probably requires your own packaging work |
| 20:08.34 | muhoo | to get flash working. i just gave up on flash |
| 20:08.39 | stew | i've never tried it (or had an interest) |
| 20:08.49 | stew | \amethyst: right |
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| 20:08.58 | ignition_machine | muhoo why don't you check if sun provides an origin installer, distro-independant |
| 20:09.01 | stew | muhoo: you can install a 32 bit chroot |
| 20:09.05 | stew | ignition_machine: they don't |
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| 20:09.16 | ignition_machine | ok ok don't shoot the messenger :) |
| 20:09.31 | muhoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.04 | chops | muhoo: The people who told you that were right :-) |
| 20:10.08 | ignition_machine | muhoo debian'ers ofcourse prefer their own packaging system |
| 20:10.16 | muhoo | i prefer debian's packaging system too |
| 20:10.22 | ignition_machine | for me it's ok as long as i get it working |
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| 20:10.39 | muhoo | but, getting jerked back and forth is kind of annoying. |
| 20:10.43 | ignition_machine | anyway does somebody have an idea to my question posted? |
| 20:10.50 | stew | muhoo: who is jerking you back and forth? |
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| 20:11.02 | jelly-home | too bad debian's late with packaging java updates |
| 20:11.07 | muhoo | use the debian package. no wait, use the sun package. grrr. |
| 20:11.20 | stew | muhoo: don't use the sun packages |
| 20:11.23 | muhoo | i doubt if the sun package has amd64 plugin |
| 20:11.28 | muhoo | but i'll look |
| 20:11.29 | stew | muhoo: it doens't |
| 20:11.41 | ignition_machine | muhoo I was it who is suggeesting the original package. but that's just my way... |
| 20:11.49 | stew | muhoo: ignore ignition_machine |
| 20:12.09 | ignition_machine | :) |
| 20:12.25 | muhoo | nope, it doesn't |
| 20:12.29 | stew | jelly-home: it's not legally redistributable though |
| 20:12.32 | muhoo | icedtea? |
| 20:13.04 | jelly-home | stew: well, a common end user wouldn't care |
| 20:13.12 | muhoo | is there some way to run java applets without a browser? |
| 20:13.31 | stew | muhoo: yes, the jre comes with appletviewer |
| 20:13.43 | muhoo | nope |
| 20:13.46 | stew | muhoo: yes |
| 20:13.49 | muhoo | it comes with appletproxy, but no appletviewer |
| 20:14.13 | stew | !find bin/appletviewer |
| 20:14.17 | muhoo | there is a gappletviewer in debian though, maybe i'll try that |
| 20:14.21 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/appletviewer' (3): (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/bin/appletviewer) in non-free/devel/sun-java6-jdk ;; (/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-4.2-1.5.0.0/bin/appletviewer) in devel/java-gcj-compat-dev ;; (/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.13/bin/appletviewer) in non-free/devel/sun-java5-jdk. |
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| 20:14.35 | muhoo | see? |
| 20:14.37 | muhoo | it's not in the jre |
| 20:14.39 | muhoo | it's in the JDK |
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| 20:14.40 | stew | muhoo: sorry it comes with the jdk |
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| 20:15.03 | muhoo | maybe i'll try my luck with gappletviewer. it sounds gnomeilicious |
| 20:15.43 | stew | muhoo: then why not just use gcjwebplugin? |
| 20:15.49 | \amethyst | muhoo: the g there is for "GNU" or "gcj", not GNOME |
| 20:15.54 | muhoo | i don't know what gcjwebplugin is |
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| 20:16.03 | muhoo | hm, cool |
| 20:16.05 | muhoo | ok, will try that |
| 20:16.18 | stew | muhoo: its the browser plugin that user the gnu java implementation instead of suns |
| 20:16.26 | jelly-home | ah. I don't recommend, in any way, to try these: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ubuntu/gutsy/ ./ |
| 20:16.44 | \amethyst | can gcj and gij work to full effect with the Sun class library? |
| 20:16.47 | stew | no |
| 20:16.50 | Eulex | people.ubuntu.com *shudder* |
| 20:17.09 | \amethyst | stew: do they work at all with Sun's class library? |
| 20:17.35 | muhoo | gcjwebplugin requires cacao, classpath-common, etc |
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| 20:17.38 | stew | \amethyst: i don't know |
| 20:17.44 | muhoo | so it comes with its own, looks like |
| 20:18.00 | stew | muhoo: yes, its a complete rewrite of java |
| 20:18.08 | stew | err |
| 20:18.28 | enouf | sort of like .NET? <shudders> |
| 20:18.29 | stew | i mean complete as in completely rewritten from scratch. it is not actually complete however |
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| 20:18.52 | \amethyst | enouf: with the aim of compatibility with Java, so not like .NET |
| 20:18.58 | enouf | aye |
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| 20:19.26 | muhoo | this whole adventure really wasn't worth the time, now that i think about it. |
| 20:19.31 | muhoo | i can live without java |
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| 20:19.38 | muhoo | just like i live without flash |
| 20:19.39 | enouf | attaboy \o/ |
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| 20:19.52 | muhoo | when i need to run something flash, i run windoze98 inside of qemu :-) |
| 20:19.59 | muhoo | works great |
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| 20:20.13 | chops | muhoo: You know about 32-bit chroot, right? |
| 20:20.25 | enouf | muhoo: there's a youtube-dl package, or just use mplayer |
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| 20:20.30 | muhoo | i had a look at it. it was complicated |
| 20:20.30 | lurch | how do you make it when you start a process it sends it to the background so it doesnt take up your terminal? |
| 20:20.36 | muhoo | i *love* youtube-dl |
| 20:20.42 | muhoo | but not everything flash is youtube :-) |
| 20:20.49 | stew | gnash (sort of) works with youtube |
| 20:20.50 | muhoo | there's myspace, f'rinstance |
| 20:20.57 | enouf | yeah, i loathe flash |
| 20:20.58 | muhoo | and EVERY SINGLE GODDAMNED BAND's website to9o |
| 20:21.08 | stew | you just can't fast-foward, rewind, replay |
| 20:21.10 | muhoo | and, a lot of idiotic media companies |
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| 20:21.17 | muhoo | some retailers too |
| 20:21.20 | jelly-home | What software can I use to fetch a mpeg2 5Mbps stream, transcode it on the fly to some codec that looks nice at 1Mbps (mpeg4 based?), and broadcast it back (so that I can access it from a machine that has less than 5Mbps available bandwidth)? |
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| 20:22.01 | muhoo | i have clicked on way too many websites, to see a BIG white square WITH A stupid fucking little green puzzle piece in the center of it |
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| 20:22.16 | pumpkin | While compiling i get "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcutil". Any ideas what .so is missing ? |
| 20:22.27 | \amethyst | jelly-home: vls can probably do that, but I haven't used it |
| 20:22.30 | muhoo | nothing else, just a square, and "Click here to download plugin." |
| 20:22.31 | jelly-home | muhoo: this is why I run i386 |
| 20:22.35 | muhoo | this is why my language is foul |
| 20:22.36 | dserban | sorry I stepped away from the computer. I should make it clear that the program I'm using, I'm asking it to go to full screen. But draws its graphics larger than the screen itself. ie. it looks like it's outputting a 1280x960 window whereas my resolution is set to 1024x768 to which I cannot change as it's hooked up to a TV. |
| 20:22.42 | enouf | muhoo: heh, all i see sometimes is [EMBED] tags |
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| 20:22.59 | muhoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.20 | \amethyst | muhoo: you could run a 32-bit chroot and do your web browsing there |
| 20:23.28 | hyper__ch | hiho, small question about the correct syntax. Is it "apt-get remove --purge package" or "apt-get --purge remove package"? |
| 20:23.30 | jelly-home | muhoo: I heard other distro have better biarch integration |
| 20:23.38 | jelly-home | distros*, even |
| 20:23.44 | stew | hyper__ch: either |
| 20:23.58 | muhoo | debian does well with biarch. just not with apps that don't deal with that. |
| 20:24.04 | hyper__ch | stew: which one is it then? |
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| 20:24.06 | enouf | jean_n: dinno offhand, tall order there - but maybe something helps here http://linux-sound.org/netaudio.html |
| 20:24.08 | stew | hyper__ch: both work |
| 20:24.12 | enouf | bah |
| 20:24.18 | hyper__ch | stew: sorry, I read "neither" ^^ |
| 20:24.21 | hyper__ch | stew: thsx |
| 20:24.22 | enouf | i meant jelly-home , not jean_n |
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| 20:24.32 | muhoo | heh, thanks for gcwebplugin, works so far! |
| 20:24.37 | muhoo | though it is loud: |
| 20:24.39 | muhoo | "HOSTILE APPLETS WILL STEAL AND/OR DESTROY YOUR DATA!" |
| 20:24.40 | jelly-home | muhoo: biarch as in "run only amd64 binaries?" :-) |
| 20:24.43 | muhoo | ooh, scary! |
| 20:25.01 | muhoo | biarch as in, if i need 32-bit libs. theyre right there in /usr/lib32 :-) |
| 20:25.04 | muhoo | seems logical enough |
| 20:25.22 | LaimioOkas | :) |
| 20:25.30 | stew | i'm figuring that biarch in debian will be like anything else in debian. we are going to get the best implementation, we are just going to have to wait the longest |
| 20:25.38 | karrotx_ | can i set the files in a group to be group owned by the group owner of the directory? |
| 20:25.41 | muhoo | hahahaha! |
| 20:25.51 | muhoo | gcjwebplugin puts up a GRAY box instead of a white one! |
| 20:25.53 | muhoo | and nothing else! |
| 20:25.57 | muhoo | whoo hoo, progress! |
| 20:26.05 | muhoo | useless. |
| 20:26.14 | LaimioOkas | :)) |
| 20:26.17 | stew | karrotx_: set the directory g+s |
| 20:26.32 | Ace2016 | anyone know where i can play tetris online against other people? |
| 20:26.40 | stew | karrotx_: (that will at least take care of newly created files) |
| 20:26.41 | Ace2016 | oh wait wrong channel, nvm |
| 20:26.42 | muhoo | sudo apt-get remove cacao classpath classpath-gtkpeer classpath-common gcjwebplugi |
| 20:26.43 | Ace2016 | sry |
| 20:26.45 | muhoo | :-P |
| 20:26.54 | karrotx_ | stew: ya, that's what i wante |
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| 20:26.54 | stew | Ace2016: apt-cache show netris |
| 20:26.55 | karrotx_ | want* |
| 20:27.03 | chops | So I want to redirect TCP connections from one port to another -- I tried just dropping "tcpd nc host port" into /etc/inetd.conf, which almost works, but it seems that the connection stays open indefinitely. I'm now using "tcpd nc -q 1 host port", which seems okay, but feels wrong. |
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| 20:27.17 | karrotx_ | stew: thanks a lot! |
| 20:27.17 | stew | muhoo: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 20:27.20 | LaimioOkas | who want listen radio? |
| 20:27.23 | muhoo | sid |
| 20:27.30 | muhoo | i'm a sid kinda guy |
| 20:27.31 | stew | LaimioOkas: do you have a debian related question? |
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| 20:27.35 | enouf | jelly-home: but i guess sure, mp4 (XviD) with mencoder perhaps for transcoding |
| 20:27.49 | LaimioOkas | what?:) |
| 20:27.53 | Ace2016 | any way to increase the increase the repeat rate? |
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| 20:28.01 | stew | muhoo: then just "apt-get remove gcjwebplugni" should also removed the stuff it pulled in, like cacao, classpath... |
| 20:28.03 | Ace2016 | and also get rid of the delay between key presses |
| 20:28.08 | chops | Is there a simpler way to do this, perhaps? Or an option to nc that will make it do what I want? I have to assume that the client program I'm using closes the connection before the server closes it, and that causes the problem... |
| 20:28.13 | stew | LaimioOkas: do you have a debian related question to ask? if not, please just move on |
| 20:28.21 | Ace2016 | i find that somethimes the piece does not move fast enough to the left/right |
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| 20:28.28 | funky | hi people |
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| 20:28.33 | LaimioOkas | stew von |
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| 20:28.35 | jelly-home | enouf: vlc almost works, if not for Debian's ffmpeg being crippled due to patents |
| 20:28.37 | lurch | how do you start a process in the background |
| 20:28.42 | LaimioOkas | funky hi |
| 20:28.45 | funky | is there any updated backports repository? |
| 20:28.53 | LaimioOkas | yes |
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| 20:29.01 | stew | funky: /msg dpkg bpo ; /msg dpkg volatile |
| 20:29.05 | enouf | jelly-home: ugh, patents |
| 20:29.05 | funky | backports.org seems a bit outdated |
| 20:29.12 | funky | stew: ok, thanks |
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| 20:29.20 | geek | hello alla |
| 20:29.35 | stew | funky: volatile is more up-to-date (and officially maintained), but will fewer packages |
| 20:29.36 | jelly-home | enouf: "oh hey, we'll ship ffmpeg that isn't actually capable of encoding mpeg!" |
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| 20:29.43 | funky | I'm using etch, and I'm looking for gnash without pinning to testing |
| 20:29.47 | LaimioOkas | geek hello :) |
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| 20:30.00 | seisen | anybody have any idea why printer drivers that I installed are not showing up in cups web interface |
| 20:30.03 | funky | thank you stew |
| 20:30.10 | geek | i want to mount a kernel image with initrd µ...there is a quick way to do it |
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| 20:30.42 | stew | funky: you do NOT want to install testing/unstable gnash onto stable directly, "/msg dpkg simple sid backport" instead |
| 20:30.45 | deepak | can anyone guide me how to configure net in debian |
| 20:30.58 | stew | geek: what do you mean by "mount a kernel image" |
| 20:31.00 | funky | stew: I know |
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| 20:31.24 | stew | deepak: man interfaces |
| 20:31.24 | geek | stew: i mean , mount to have the tree of ir |
| 20:31.53 | enouf | geek: erm you can feed the kernel an initrd boot param - or is that not what you mean? |
| 20:31.55 | stew | geek: the initrd? |
| 20:32.07 | deepak | stew:i have configured pppoe but even i unable to get it connected |
| 20:32.15 | badcfe | is echo /usr/local/lib >/etc/ld.so.conf && ldconfig the way to do it? |
| 20:32.20 | enouf | geek: you want to see your initrd's contents |
| 20:32.21 | enouf | ? |
| 20:32.47 | stew | deepak: can you connect pppoe using "pon"? |
| 20:32.48 | thedoc2097 | Does anybody know wy my grub bootloader gives me the output "Error 26 (too many symbolic links) " |
| 20:32.53 | justin | badcfe: >> ? |
| 20:32.55 | thedoc2097 | I get slowly crazy with that |
| 20:32.55 | geek | yes , really question :) i want to extract what is in initrd and his kernel , which come from dell cd server assistant |
| 20:32.55 | LaimioOkas | http://server.laikrodis.net:8030/listen.pls |
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| 20:33.17 | \amethyst | thedoc2097: sounds like there's some cyclic symbolic link like /vmlinuz -> /vmlinuz or something |
| 20:33.18 | stew | geek: what does "file /path/to/initrd" say the file is? "gzip compressed data"? or "cramfs"? |
| 20:33.20 | enouf | geek: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/24/inspecting-the-content-of-an-initrd-file/ see "initramfs type of file" section |
| 20:33.24 | geek | enouf: ,stew : the real word is extract it |
| 20:33.30 | deepak | stew:it shows connected but i could not ping any site |
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| 20:33.41 | funky | fucking spammers |
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| 20:33.52 | geek | i think is cramfs stew cause i can't gunzip -d on it |
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| 20:34.00 | \amethyst | funky: not a good idea, you'll get VD |
| 20:34.03 | enouf | wow - i saw that spamming prick over in ##linux just like an hour ago |
| 20:34.06 | thedoc2097 | amethyst: the string is " /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ......is this wrong |
| 20:34.11 | deepak | stew:pon dsl-provider i have used to connect it |
| 20:34.13 | funky | \amethyst: sorry? what's VD ? |
| 20:34.21 | muhoo | haha!! |
| 20:34.24 | funky | \amethyst: btw what's a bad idea? |
| 20:34.28 | muhoo | and... gappletviewer locks up the whole machien! |
| 20:34.34 | muhoo | no mouse, no keyboard, no nothing |
| 20:34.38 | simonrvn | enouf: was in #perl too |
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| 20:34.43 | funky | \amethyst: to install gnash ? or what? |
| 20:34.44 | stew | muhoo: why not just use appletview from sun's jdk? |
| 20:34.46 | \amethyst | funky: fucking spammers is a bad idea, because you'll get venereal (sexually transmitted) disease |
| 20:34.49 | binfalse | not sure |
| 20:34.54 | funky | ah, ok :P |
| 20:34.54 | enouf | simonrvn: figures |
| 20:34.55 | muhoo | because i'd have to install the jdk |
| 20:35.08 | muhoo | and, at this point, i'm just uninstalling everything java and saying, to hell with it |
| 20:35.10 | AnyFile | I have to compile a program that required the alut library. I have installed the following packages (all the one I have found with that name); libghc6-openal-dev libopenal-dev libopenal0a libopenalpp-cvs1 , but the configure program still complains that it is unable to find alutInit. WHat package should I install? |
| 20:35.12 | enouf | simonrvn: i think that person actually asked me how to register too O.o |
| 20:35.12 | muhoo | i just don't need it that much |
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| 20:35.31 | muhoo | thanks though, it was fun |
| 20:35.33 | enouf | simonrvn: obviously prior to the spam ;-) |
| 20:35.37 | Yggdrasil | how do i configure samba for no password/username access ? |
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| 20:35.54 | simonrvn | now i'm glad i warned people in here |
| 20:36.18 | \amethyst | muhoo: BTW, from what I've heard (I run i386 myself) nspluginwrapper in lenny has improved recently in its ability to run flash |
| 20:36.50 | stew | deepak: did it set a default route? |
| 20:36.56 | stew | geek: what does "file" say it is? |
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| 20:37.16 | deepak | stew:yah i think so |
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| 20:37.17 | \amethyst | muhoo: but if you do decide you need java and flash plugins you might consider debootstrapping an i386 chroot and running iceweasel there |
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| 20:37.24 | geek | stew: i can't see extension of thoses files , there appear green and without extension |
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| 20:37.31 | stew | geek: what files? |
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| 20:37.37 | geek | stew: name of them is SA.1 and SA.2 (initrd) |
| 20:37.56 | geek | stew: SA.1 (kernel) SA.2 (initrd) |
| 20:37.59 | marc123 | what is the difference between these two permissions: -rwxrwx--- and -rwxrws--- |
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| 20:38.10 | stew | geek: where are you seeing this? |
| 20:38.12 | marc123 | the second one is flashing yellow |
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| 20:38.18 | suppaman | hi |
| 20:38.21 | stew | deepak: how did you check that it set a default route? |
| 20:38.22 | \amethyst | muhoo: you can mount --bind your /home inside the chroot so it shares your home directory, iceweasel configuration, etc |
| 20:38.28 | geek | stew: i can see this in isolinux.cfg from CD |
| 20:38.42 | stew | geek: which cd? |
| 20:38.44 | geek | so there is a link of this , wait |
| 20:38.44 | deepak | stew:using plog command |
| 20:38.46 | \amethyst | marc123: the second one has the sgid bit set |
| 20:38.48 | suppaman | I safe-upgraded lenny today and now I can't reach my password samba share anymore, is anyone else having issues with samba on lenny ? |
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| 20:38.57 | marc123 | whats that mean? |
| 20:39.07 | marc123 | can it be written to by apache |
| 20:39.15 | marc123 | its my error.log file |
| 20:39.31 | ozzilee | Hey all, I've got a number of "error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }" messages from dmesg, so I guess that means bad sectors. I don't care, because this is just a dev server, but I'd like to use it for some things yet today before I put a new HD in it. |
| 20:39.33 | stew | deepak: can you show us the output of "ifconfig ; route -n" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 20:39.36 | \amethyst | marc123: that's strange....log files shouldn't be executable at all |
| 20:39.38 | geek | stew: this CD : http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/dtk/2.4/UG/dtkugc9.htm |
| 20:39.39 | marc123 | somehow its empty but access.log isnt when i get an error |
| 20:39.56 | ozzilee | Can anyone tell me how to get debian to route around the bad sectors? |
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| 20:40.13 | \amethyst | marc123: what is the entire output of ls -l error.log ? |
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| 20:40.36 | stew | geek: so you said you tried to run "gunzip -d" on the file. right? so you actually do know where the file is located? can you run "file" on it and tell us what kind of file it is? |
| 20:40.40 | marc123 | should i delete it and make another one with same permissions as access.log |
| 20:40.44 | marc123 | -rwxrws--- 1 root root 0 Jan 8 20:23 error.log |
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| 20:40.57 | marc123 | damn what its also done is used my root user |
| 20:40.57 | marc123 | not my user |
| 20:41.07 | AnyFile | How can I have a list of all the packages installed (to install the same package on another computer)? |
| 20:41.11 | marc123 | i think thats wrong too |
| 20:41.15 | \amethyst | ozzilee: ext2/3 ? |
| 20:41.22 | simonrvn | pointless to have a regular file setgid |
| 20:41.32 | ozzilee | Yeah, ext3 I'm pretty sure. |
| 20:41.38 | ozzilee | It would be whatever debian defaults to. |
| 20:41.45 | stew | AnyFile: /msg dpkg debian clone |
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| 20:41.58 | geek | stew: i can see where is located , but my problem is how can i extract this kernel image named on CDROM SA.1 , and his initrd image named SA.2 |
| 20:41.58 | \amethyst | marc123: it should have the same ownership and permissions as the access.log, probably |
| 20:42.18 | marc123 | yeah i think so too anyone here used apache2 and know the score? |
| 20:42.20 | stew | geek: what kind of file is the initrd? |
| 20:42.35 | stew | geek: please run "file /path/to/initrd" and tell me what is returned |
| 20:42.37 | geek | stew: this is the problem how can i see this ? |
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| 20:42.48 | geek | stew: ok 2s |
| 20:42.51 | stew | ... |
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| 20:44.21 | dserban | my dmesg long scrolled by, what command shows me the exact memory in the box? free is... wrong... or I don't believe that the system has 500mb :) |
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| 20:44.46 | geek | stew: SA.2: gzip compressed data, was "build.initramfs", from Unix, last modified: Mon Mar 26 02:35:18 2007 |
| 20:44.47 | stew | dserban: cat /proc/meminfo |
| 20:45.09 | geek | stew: file SA.1 |
| 20:45.09 | geek | SA.1: Linux kernel x86 boot executable RO-rootFS, root_dev 0x908, Normal VGA |
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| 20:45.13 | enouf | i can't even tell what that dellio thing is - is that for 2.4 kernels? |
| 20:45.15 | stew | geek: what happened when you tried to gunzip it? |
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| 20:45.49 | geek | stew: gunzip -d SA.2 |
| 20:45.50 | geek | gunzip: SA.2: unknown suffix -- ignored |
| 20:46.10 | enouf | add a suffix of .gz |
| 20:46.19 | leafwiz | Is there a way to remotely access the console on a box? |
| 20:46.24 | geek | enouf: i should rename it ? |
| 20:46.25 | stew | geek: mkdir /tmp/initrd ; cd /tmp/initrd ; zcat /path/to/SA.2 | cpio -i |
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| 20:46.30 | stew | geek: don't bother renaming it |
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| 20:46.37 | geek | ok stew |
| 20:47.05 | leafwiz | not the pts, but the one that is connected to the keyboard.. |
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| 20:47.26 | stew | leafwiz: what exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 20:48.01 | mt | hello |
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| 20:48.38 | mt | is it possible to exlude a certain file from package upgrades? |
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| 20:49.20 | leafwiz | stew: I am trying to type in an keyfrace to unlock a sertificate when'ever the server boots up. But now I have to do it by the keyboard console. |
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| 20:49.27 | mt | in my case a patched suexec file for apache. i'd like to use apt-cron but don't want to shoot my foot |
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| 20:49.40 | \amethyst | !hold |
| 20:49.40 | dpkg | hold is a status flag which tells apt (or aptitude) not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package, 'echo pkgname hold|dpkg --set-selections' or use = in aptitude's curses interface. You can ignore a hold by using apt-get install foopkg; or by using + in aptitude's curses interface. [Note that this is *NOT* the same as packages which have been "held back" because they require packages that are not currently (or tri |
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| 20:49.56 | geek | ok cool stew thx a lot ;) |
| 20:49.58 | linux_jones | samba or nfs? |
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| 20:50.09 | \amethyst | mt: ^^ that was for you |
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| 20:50.48 | geek | stew: i should do same thing for SA.1 ? |
| 20:51.16 | enouf | geek: that look like a bzimage, so no |
| 20:51.31 | stew | geek: what do you intend to do with the kenel? |
| 20:51.33 | stew | kernel* |
| 20:51.35 | enouf | geek: IOW, your kernel itself |
| 20:51.47 | AKX | Um, quick bash script question. I'm iterating through all the .flac files in a directory, and I need to replace the .flac part with .mp3 (transcoding). If the "something.flac" string is in $FILE, how do I build $TARGET the easiest? |
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| 20:52.02 | stew | leafwiz: do you perhaps just want to not have that certificate be password protected? |
| 20:52.14 | geek | stew: i mean extract it too , like initrd image . |
| 20:52.15 | mt | ok i got the point but id like to have an automated update that just don't touch this certain file. maybe i should go with immutable flages? |
| 20:52.40 | geek | stew: so on it , there is html page which i need |
| 20:52.51 | stew | AKX: TARGET=${FILE%.mp3}.flac (assuming you are using bash or zsh (and not /bin/sh)) |
| 20:53.01 | AKX | Okay, thanks :) |
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| 20:53.13 | stew | geek: just copy it with cp |
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| 20:53.26 | leafwiz | stew: Yeah, of course I could to that. But it would be nice to get remote access to the system console |
| 20:53.26 | genioreal | has someone work with ejbca on debian? |
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| 20:53.39 | jelly-home | with zsh, $foo:s/.mp3/.flac/ ;-) |
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| 20:53.51 | stew | leafwiz: why does it need to be the terminal? |
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| 20:54.06 | stew | leafwiz: what process is waiting for input? /etc/init.d/apache2 start? |
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| 20:54.33 | sarthor | HI, Using ubuntu Hardy, In GUI, my network manager need to be unlocked, How to unlock, i am new. PLEASE DONT TELL ME TO ASK THERE IN UBUNTU |
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| 20:55.10 | jelly-home | sarthor: ok, I won't tell you. |
| 20:55.12 | Supaplex | sarthor: ok, don't ask in ubuntu. but stop asking offtopic ubuntu questions in debian. |
| 20:55.21 | stew | sarthor: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu. your questions are offtopoic in here. also please don't use caps |
| 20:55.33 | autin | hi! anyone miss problem after apt-get dist-upgrade as me? any reason? sid distro |
| 20:55.34 | jelly-home | have we been trolled? |
| 20:55.35 | leafwiz | stew: it'ts the /bin/sh /root/ispconfig/httpd/bin/apachectl startssl |
| 20:55.51 | deepak | stew: my output of route -n goes like this |
| 20:56.00 | stew | deepak: use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 20:56.24 | sarthor | i can only say ok, oo and kk was in caps but Stew warnned me |
| 20:56.25 | stew | leafwiz: that should want to interect with whichever tty ran that program, not some specific tty like /dev/tty1 |
| 20:56.27 | sarthor | thank you |
| 20:56.31 | suppaman | stew: offtopoic, what a greeky taste... |
| 20:57.06 | suppaman | autin: miss problem? do you have lack of problems ? |
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| 20:57.57 | stew | autin: you'll have to be more specific. and you should check the bts about whatever pacakges you are having problems with: /msg dpkg bts |
| 20:58.13 | karrotx_ | hmm, if i want umask to be drw-r----- but i also need the directory to be g+s how can i do this? |
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| 20:59.01 | suppaman | karrotx: does umask contain the suid bits too ? |
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| 20:59.13 | karrotx_ | not that i'm aware of |
| 20:59.24 | genioreal | has someone work with EJBCA on debian? |
| 20:59.50 | zinx | suppaman: you can put them in there, but SUID stuff isn't generally created - usually normal files are created with 0666, and directories with 0777 |
| 20:59.51 | deepak | stew:i am not getting #debian channel there |
| 20:59.57 | karrotx_ | i basically need every file created inside of a directory to be 640 but it also has to take the group ownership of the parent directory |
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| 21:00.39 | netdaemon | how do i get rid of the annoying messages popping up in my tty? |
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| 21:01.01 | stew | karrotx_: if a directory is g+s, newly created subdirectories will inherit g+s |
| 21:01.05 | netdaemon | tried commenting out line in /etc/syslog.conf but didn't work.... |
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| 21:01.10 | stew | netdaemon: which annoying messages? |
| 21:01.27 | netdaemon | stew, i'm getting some bcm43xx irq messages popping up in the middle of my screen sessions |
| 21:01.29 | karrotx_ | stew: ok, how can i make sure files are created 640? |
| 21:01.53 | enouf | umask 0022 for users? |
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| 21:02.33 | stew | karrotx_: make sure umask is 026 |
| 21:02.35 | karrotx_ | enouf: 0022? what's that? |
| 21:02.47 | sam__ | could anyone help me with a BCM4312 wifi card? I am trying the free software route but I am stuck. http://pastebin.ca/847184 |
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| 21:02.59 | karrotx_ | how are you guys getting this? there's no man for umask and the page i'm using for doc doesn't have 026 or the like |
| 21:03.00 | stew | karrotx_: 0022 would be the umask to make file 644 |
| 21:03.13 | geek | there is a way to listen with headset bluetooth on debian ? |
| 21:03.16 | netdaemon | sam__, if your card is supported all you need to do is install bcm43xx-fwcutter and tell it to fetch the firmware for you |
| 21:03.17 | sam__ | actually it is a BCM4310 |
| 21:03.21 | stew | karrotx_: 666-026 = 640 |
| 21:03.32 | simonrvn | info chmod for one |
| 21:03.41 | netdaemon | then load the bcm43xx module |
| 21:03.42 | stew | karrotx_: and directories would be 777-026 = 750 |
| 21:04.05 | enouf | yeah, i'm of today, mine are 644 i guess, i thought they were 640 |
| 21:04.06 | RichiH | to backup grub before installing windows, do you need to save the first 512 or 1024 bit? |
| 21:04.08 | karrotx_ | and they'll inherit g+s? |
| 21:04.12 | enouf | s/of/off |
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| 21:04.23 | sam__ | netdaemon, i have bxm4x-fwcutter how should i tell it to get firmware? |
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| 21:04.30 | karrotx_ | also, how do i set the umask? |
| 21:04.36 | karrotx_ | is it just umask 026 /dir? |
| 21:05.01 | enouf | it's a user trait, umask --help |
| 21:05.09 | stew | karrotx_: no, umask is a session variable, you can't force a umask on a directory |
| 21:05.10 | zinx | karrotx_: they'll inherit the group if the directory is g+s |
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| 21:05.20 | netdaemon | sam__, dpkg-reconfigure bcm43xx-fwcutter may do it |
| 21:05.24 | enouf | i suck tofay |
| 21:05.29 | stew | RichiH: 512 is the mbr AND the partition table |
| 21:05.31 | enouf | help umask, lol |
| 21:05.55 | deepak | stew:http://paste.lisp.org/display/53850 i have pasted it there |
| 21:06.06 | sam__ | netdaemon, ERROR 404: Not Found. |
| 21:06.27 | netdaemon | sam__, just a moment |
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| 21:06.46 | stew | deepak: i don't see any ppp interfaces |
| 21:07.14 | monx | stew, just to let ya know, finally got my usb external device to mount, ended up mkdir a new dir and then mounting it at that point. I think ya mighta even told me to do exactly the same thing. Dunno why it took me sooooooooo damn long to actual grok it though. lol |
| 21:07.22 | deepak | stew:do u need output of ifconfig |
| 21:07.57 | sam__ | i have already downloaded wl_apsta.o |
| 21:07.57 | sam__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.12 | monx | but thanks for getting me pointed in the right dir stew. |
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| 21:08.14 | netdaemon | cd to /lib/firmware |
| 21:08.15 | stew | deepak: sure |
| 21:08.16 | RichiH | stew: that is what i thought, yah |
| 21:08.40 | enouf | RichiH: and volume descriptor and 2 bytes of Active Boot flag (last -- being 55 AA) |
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| 21:08.49 | stew | RichiH: so, as long as you aren't chanign one of the 4 primary parittions, 512 is good. if you are planning to change partitions in windows, i'm not sure what the right thing is |
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| 21:08.58 | netdaemon | and i think its bcm43xx /path/to/firmware |
| 21:09.24 | Erik1 | can I use .ttf files in Etch ? if so, how ? |
| 21:09.29 | karrotx_ | stew: is there anyway to guarantee any file created will be 640, something like g+s? |
| 21:09.39 | karrotx_ | regardless of creator |
| 21:09.46 | stew | karrotx_: no |
| 21:09.49 | enouf | RichiH: one thing i learned about Vista, is it starts partitions at 2048 sectors, not the usual after the usual 63 hidden |
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| 21:10.09 | sam__ | netdaemon, OK that seemed to work. What next? |
| 21:10.22 | gonzaloaf | hi, why does my partition editor is not able to make fat32 filesystems? |
| 21:10.32 | stew | karrotx_: you can change the default umask on the box in /etc/profile though. but you can't keep a user from later changing his umask again |
| 21:10.34 | netdaemon | sam__, load the module |
| 21:10.36 | enouf | RichiH: that should affect your MBR , except for where the partition layout is concerned |
| 21:10.40 | netdaemon | sam__, modprobe bcm43xx |
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| 21:10.46 | stew | gonzaloaf: what partition editor are you using? |
| 21:10.50 | karrotx_ | ok |
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| 21:10.57 | gonzaloaf | stew, I think gparted |
| 21:11.08 | karrotx_ | i'll just make a script that chmod's all of /users/mail 640 |
| 21:11.08 | gonzaloaf | stew, yes gparted |
| 21:11.11 | karrotx_ | that'll be a trip |
| 21:11.37 | gonzaloaf | stew, gparted 0.3.3 the one the comes with debian |
| 21:11.46 | stew | karrotx_: that's a quick one liner to write. if you don't immediately know how to do it, ask a more specific question |
| 21:11.51 | sam__ | netdaemon, Ok that seemed OK. but I still see no ap in iwconfig |
| 21:12.00 | karrotx_ | stew: no, i know how to write it |
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| 21:12.04 | karrotx_ | i just dont want to run it every minute |
| 21:12.11 | sam__ | Mode:Managed Access Point: Invalid |
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| 21:12.41 | stew | karrotx_: the problem is that files are being created 644 and you need 640? |
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| 21:12.57 | animaCCo | hi, a proxy expert ? i need to configure my portable, i wanna navigate at work |
| 21:13.16 | karrotx_ | stew: almost, files are either 644 or 600 and they need to be 640 |
| 21:13.33 | netdaemon | sam__, might take a sec |
| 21:13.46 | enouf | RichiH: fwiw - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923332 |
| 21:14.06 | netdaemon | sam__, try rmmod bcm43xx && modprobe bcm43xx to reload the module, just in case its already loaded |
| 21:14.26 | netdaemon | sam__, if it dosn't work after that, i'd have to say its not going to work with your card =\ |
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| 21:15.10 | sam__ | naa still not working :( back to ndiswrapper then i guess |
| 21:15.23 | monx | but ended up su ing then mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mnt/foo and she be accessible.... |
| 21:15.31 | enouf | gonzaloaf: partition editors don't mkfs |
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| 21:15.56 | gonzaloaf | enouf, yes they do |
| 21:16.01 | enouf | no they don't |
| 21:16.21 | enouf | a partitionID is NOT a File System |
| 21:16.40 | gonzaloaf | enouf, I was missing dosfstools |
| 21:16.45 | gonzaloaf | solved! |
| 21:16.50 | enouf | mkdosfs |
| 21:16.56 | enouf | mkfs.vfat |
| 21:17.22 | MaximusBrood | Does Debian have a graphical installer by default? If so, how can I make it text-based? |
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| 21:17.45 | enouf | install = not installgui - read F1-F10 |
| 21:17.45 | stew | enouf: gparted creates filesystems too |
| 21:17.49 | stew | err parted... |
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| 21:19.57 | MaximusBrood | enouf: What do you mean? I'm booting the net-install files, but since SSH doesn't support grapical installers I'm trying to turn it off. |
| 21:20.24 | enouf | boot prompt; install |
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| 21:21.01 | MaximusBrood | I still don't get it. |
| 21:21.02 | enouf | or 'expert' |
| 21:21.12 | enouf | do you get a boot prompt? |
| 21:21.17 | deepak | stew:http://paste.lisp.org/display/53852 pasted the output there |
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| 21:22.00 | MaximusBrood | enouf: No, the one-but-last line is: "initrd (hd0,0)/boot/newinstall/initrd.gz" (then an indented line with the filesize, but then it really stops) |
| 21:22.38 | enouf | get a boot prompt; then type install, hit enter; done |
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| 21:24.11 | RichiH | enouf: i don't plan to ever install vista |
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| 21:24.20 | MaximusBrood | I don't get that boot prompt. I'll try to fiddle with the terminal settings a bit then. |
| 21:24.21 | enouf | RichiH: thank goodness \o/ |
| 21:24.35 | stew | deepak: the reason you can't ping things via ppp is that you are not connected via ppp |
| 21:24.40 | RichiH | enouf: i could install at least 30 windows boxen, legally, as ms throws licences at students |
| 21:24.45 | RichiH | but i don't care :p |
| 21:24.50 | enouf | MaximusBrood: are you using netboot? you said netinstall |
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| 21:25.17 | foobarbuu | Hi |
| 21:25.18 | stew | my new laptop came with vista pre-installed. i ran vista up until the point that they wanted me to agree to a EULA then erased it |
| 21:25.20 | AnyFile | If I am on etch is there a way to install a package that it is only for sid? |
| 21:25.24 | enouf | RichiH: right, but it's good to know that they agian 'changed the rules of the game' |
| 21:25.28 | stew | AnyFile: /msg dpkg backports |
| 21:25.36 | chops | !tell AnyFile about backports |
| 21:25.40 | foobarbuu | trying to compile LAME, getting following error: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH |
| 21:25.46 | foobarbuu | But gcc/g++ is installed, what to do ? |
| 21:25.55 | deepak | stew:actually i use only username and password to connect net...ie i have XDSL connection ...via cable line |
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| 21:26.08 | enouf | foobarbuu: wrong version |
| 21:26.10 | enouf | ? |
| 21:26.25 | foobarbuu | hm |
| 21:26.29 | foobarbuu | How can I find that out |
| 21:26.43 | enouf | read the builkd requirements |
| 21:26.48 | stew | deepak: you are asking about the connection that you are starting with "pon dsl-provider" right? |
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| 21:27.10 | deepak | stew:yah |
| 21:27.21 | stew | deepak: that connection is not currently active |
| 21:27.27 | deepak | stew:right |
| 21:27.29 | RichiH | enouf: skimming over the KB article, i get back to a conclusion i had recently.. |
| 21:27.45 | enouf | foobarbuu: then see which version you have installed and which version ls -l /usr/bin/gcc points to |
| 21:27.46 | deepak | stew:how to make it active |
| 21:27.52 | stew | deepak: pon dsl-provider |
| 21:27.56 | RichiH | not everything MS does is bad, they have a few really good ideas. they just suck at implementing and communicating |
| 21:28.15 | MaximusBrood | enouf: According to the instal manual (if I read it correctly): vmlinuz from hd-media, initrd.gz from netboot and linux from netboot. Then grub loads: "kernel vmlinuz; initrd initrd.gz" (proper paths of course; the files are found). But it stops after it loads initrd.gz. |
| 21:28.20 | enouf | RichiH: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=379835 tell us about it ;-) |
| 21:28.23 | deepak | stew: i have also tried that |
| 21:28.32 | RichiH | streuner: :) |
| 21:28.38 | foobarbuu | enouf, currently using gcc 4.1 |
| 21:28.47 | streuner | RichiH: trust me, everything is BS what they doing ;-) |
| 21:28.56 | foobarbuu | But can't find out the build requirements |
| 21:28.59 | foobarbuu | where can I find them |
| 21:29.00 | enouf | MaximusBrood: i'm not entirely familiar with the netboot process of installation - sry |
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| 21:29.22 | enouf | foobarbuu: in you source code somewhere |
| 21:29.22 | deepak | stew:after using pon ...i could not ping |
| 21:29.52 | enouf | foobarbuu: 4.1 should be fine though - maybe you need build-essential pkgs - or you build PATH is worng |
| 21:30.08 | jim_uk | when i install new kernels they are not listed in my grub menu. They are listed in boot/grub/menu.lst but even after update-grub do not appear on my book screen. I have several OS's installed on different partitions. |
| 21:30.16 | enouf | foobarbuu: yeah, your $PATH is off |
| 21:30.18 | streuner | RichiH: its still on my laptop (Vista), the laptop has 512 MB RAM and 1.6 Celeron, its that slow you cannot even work with that |
| 21:30.27 | foobarbuu | my PATH is /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 21:30.37 | foobarbuu | an gcc is in /usr/bin |
| 21:30.38 | enouf | ugh, root? |
| 21:30.50 | foobarbuu | y |
| 21:30.50 | MaximusBrood | enouf: Fiddling with the terminal settings worked :D |
| 21:30.57 | deepak | stew: even after using pon ...pinging to any site 100% data loss |
| 21:31.01 | enouf | foobarbuu: no need to be root to build |
| 21:31.09 | enouf | foobarbuu: only to install |
| 21:31.12 | foobarbuu | ok |
| 21:31.16 | enouf | MaximusBrood: cool |
| 21:31.17 | justin | jim_uk: you have multiple menu.lst's then |
| 21:31.19 | foobarbuu | but I anyway cant configure :p |
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| 21:31.28 | \amethyst | foobarbuu: can you pastebin the contents of config.log ? |
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| 21:31.39 | trincamckee | greetings |
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| 21:31.54 | trincamckee | im installing for the first time debian |
| 21:31.55 | streuner | RichiH: well, i still that, because a "Buchhaltungsprogramm" only work under windows... |
| 21:31.56 | Marbug | I have made a change in crontab with crontab -e |
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| 21:32.04 | streuner | RichiH: need* |
| 21:32.08 | trincamckee | i am installing netinstall cd |
| 21:32.15 | trincamckee | can i configure pppoe? |
| 21:32.29 | Marbug | how can I make the crontab so it would work, and use all the modified stuff? |
| 21:32.36 | jim_uk | justin, and how should i resolve that please? |
| 21:32.42 | deepak | stew:http://users.pandora.be/Asterisk-PBX/PPPoE.htm i have refFerd this site to configure |
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| 21:32.53 | JW | Hey I've got a new comp from Dell and it has a SATA CD-ROM (DVD) drive, and the net-inst CD boots but can't find the CD-ROM. Any way to make it detect the CD? |
| 21:32.57 | stew | deepak: becuase pon is failing to actually get you connected. read /var/log/syslog and see if you can figure out why |
| 21:33.07 | foobarbuu | oh I see |
| 21:33.09 | foobarbuu | it works now |
| 21:33.09 | RichiH | streuner: wine? |
| 21:33.10 | foobarbuu | 0_o |
| 21:33.11 | justin | jim_uk: merge them together? |
| 21:33.12 | foobarbuu | strange |
| 21:33.16 | foobarbuu | but thx for your help |
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| 21:33.35 | enouf | JW: go into BIOS and enable AHCI under sata drive config area |
| 21:33.42 | jim_uk | justin, just cut'n paste? |
| 21:34.03 | streuner | RichiH: vista is fast enough to run that app. in case of emerceny... |
| 21:34.09 | enouf | JW: if you only see [IDE] and [RAID] choices, choose raid |
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| 21:34.27 | streuner | RichiH: i didnt test that app. with wine yet |
| 21:34.44 | enouf | JW: and can you tell me your make/model ? |
| 21:35.06 | enouf | foobarbuu: what was wrong? |
| 21:35.17 | justin | jim_uk: that would work |
| 21:35.18 | foobarbuu | I dont now |
| 21:35.25 | enouf | haha |
| 21:35.28 | foobarbuu | Just tried again the ./configure and now it works |
| 21:35.28 | foobarbuu | :D |
| 21:35.42 | Erik1 | are Linux .TTF files any different from Windoze ones ? |
| 21:35.45 | enouf | you switched from root to user ? |
| 21:35.50 | enouf | foobarbuu: ? |
| 21:36.01 | JW | enouf: Dell Vostro 200n. No AHCI, trying RAID now, we'll see what happens in a minute . . . |
| 21:36.11 | enouf | JW: yes, known issue |
| 21:36.21 | enouf | JW: RAID, it is |
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| 21:36.45 | enouf | (in order to get ahci to work .. dmaned dellio oem cheap crap) |
| 21:36.55 | foobarbuu | enouf, no |
| 21:36.58 | twobitsprite | This is probably off topic, but can someone please seed the testing-i386-DVD-1 torrent? :) |
| 21:37.04 | foobarbuu | but I switched now to do all again |
| 21:37.13 | enouf | foobarbuu: oh, well then we'll blame it on cosmic forces :-P |
| 21:37.13 | foobarbuu | but its strange |
| 21:37.22 | foobarbuu | self-repaired :p |
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| 21:37.36 | foobarbuu | maybe my box has a AI ?! |
| 21:37.45 | JW | enouf: BIOS now reports "Boot from AHCI cd rom" while booting (or something like that, it went by fast) |
| 21:37.51 | enouf | yes |
| 21:37.57 | JW | enouf: known and documented where? I couldn't find it with Google. |
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| 21:38.32 | enouf | heh, i found it after much searching , here for ex; but my buddy just went through this with an Inspiron 530 (?) |
| 21:38.34 | JW | enouf: seems better already |
| 21:38.54 | enouf | JW: one ex; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590931 |
| 21:38.55 | JW | enouf: bah, now it can't find the network driver. |
| 21:38.57 | JW | thanks |
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| 21:38.59 | enouf | heh |
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| 21:39.05 | enouf | modprobe e1000 |
| 21:39.19 | stew | anyone know how i can ssh -X into a remote box, then chroot on the remote box, and still get x connections forwarded out of the chroot? i tried --bind mounting /tmp/.X11-unix into the chroot which works locally, but not over ssh |
| 21:39.22 | enouf | er, not sure about that though JW |
| 21:39.36 | JW | worth a try |
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| 21:39.53 | chops | stew: Copy ~/.Xauthority? |
| 21:40.14 | enouf | yeah, your lspci output (hence hardware) will likely be different, though not sure |
| 21:41.01 | MaximusBrood | In which file in Debian is the default gateway mentioned? |
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| 21:41.18 | chops | MaximusBrood: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:41.27 | MaximusBrood | I feared so. |
| 21:41.34 | chops | MaximusBrood: Why? |
| 21:42.06 | MaximusBrood | The installer is not autodetecting the default gateway. Can I while being in the install safely creat /etc/network/interfaces with the correct info? |
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| 21:42.10 | stew | chops: no, i'm not getting that far: "_X11TransSocketINETConnect() can't get address for localhost:6010: Name or service not known" |
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| 21:42.31 | chops | stew: ! |
| 21:42.43 | FelipeSouza | I'm using debian sid, i have an "amd semprom", i included the options for cpu frequency scaling as "y" in kernel, and the option "AMD Mobile Athlon/Duron PowerNow!", but isn't working (according to the lack of the folder cpu-freq in /sys/devices/...), any ideas? |
| 21:42.44 | chops | stew: Silly question: Does 'ping localhost' from in the chroot work? :-) |
| 21:42.48 | enouf | stew: there's also the /tmp/.X0-lock file? |
| 21:43.36 | dkr | any idea why aptitude install build-essential would be trying to fetch libc6-dev_2.3.6.ds1-13etch2_i386.deb and getting a 404 because the actual file on the mirror is libc6-dev_2.3.6.ds1-13etch4_i386.deb? |
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| 21:43.41 | Dole2k | hey dkr |
| 21:43.42 | Dole2k | you fuck |
| 21:43.48 | Dole2k | unban be from ##politics |
| 21:43.49 | Dole2k | you fuck |
| 21:43.50 | dkr | wth? |
| 21:43.53 | Dole2k | yeah |
| 21:43.54 | Dole2k | you |
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| 21:44.06 | dkr | oh, that guy. had to ban him last week |
| 21:44.09 | chops | dkr: Well, that was entertaining :-) |
| 21:44.13 | enouf | lol |
| 21:44.15 | chops | dkr: Do an aptitude update? |
| 21:44.21 | stew | DOH, "echo 127.0.0.1 localhost > /etc/hosts" |
| 21:44.26 | dkr | chops: duh. thanks |
| 21:44.45 | chops | I can't imagine why he would have gotten banned from a nontechnical channel with a lot of heated arguments :-) |
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| 21:45.39 | trincamckee | i just finished the netinstall instalation |
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| 21:45.52 | trincamckee | i dont have ntework configured |
| 21:46.00 | trincamckee | i use pppoe |
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| 21:46.18 | trincamckee | im trying to use pppoeconf but it does not work |
| 21:46.24 | trincamckee | "command not found" |
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| 21:46.28 | mvfeinstein | I am getting this error in my apache log does anyone know how I can figure out what is causing it [notice] child pid 16933 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) |
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| 21:46.37 | trincamckee | whar can i do? |
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| 21:46.42 | trincamckee | *what |
| 21:46.51 | foobarbuu | when i change the /etc/hostname, can there appear some consequenting errors? |
| 21:47.11 | streuner | sure |
| 21:47.16 | chops | mvfeinstein: Run apache under gdb, with -F? |
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| 21:47.49 | chops | mvfeinstein: Er, also -X. Then cause the seg fault and try to determine from the stack trace what module(s) are at fault |
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| 21:49.30 | seisen | anybody got the drivers for the pixma ip1500 printer working in debian |
| 21:49.47 | trincamckee | I just finished the netinstall instalation, i didnt configure network because i use pppoe, now im logged tryied pppoeconf and the command is not found, what can i do, i want a complete desktop... |
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| 21:51.47 | chops | trincamckee: Are you able to get any network without having pppoe installed, or do you need it first? |
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| 21:52.14 | chops | trincamckee: (Also, silly question: are you trying pppoeconf as root?) |
| 21:52.16 | trincamckee | i need it first chops :/ |
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| 21:52.26 | trincamckee | yes of course |
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| 21:53.16 | chops | trincamckee: k. Look at http://batmat.net/apt-offline/ch3.html to see how to install software by downloading it on a separate machine. You'll need to install pppoe via that process. |
| 21:53.34 | trincamckee | ok |
| 21:53.37 | trincamckee | thanks |
| 21:53.41 | chops | trincamckee: np |
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| 21:54.01 | enouf | FelipeSouza: just guesses without more detailed info - but is ACPI support enabled? is PowerNow enabled in the BIOS? read through these i guess, http://lxr.linux.no/linux/Documentation/cpu-freq/ i would suspect there's something in your config missing, i heard about the /proc/acpi structure being removed/deprecated .. |
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| 21:55.33 | Marbug | if you changed something with "crontab -e" how you can do it that the new changements takes effect? |
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| 21:58.05 | FelipeSouza | enouf: sorry by my lack of informations, i included the acpi, the generic driver, the k7 driver, and most options |
| 21:58.13 | simonrvn | Marbug: they just do, cron re-reads it on the next minute |
| 21:58.37 | simonrvn | Marbug: tail your syslog before you edit your crontab, you'll see it in action |
| 21:58.45 | mvfeinstein | chops, I have never used gdb anything idea where I can find good directions on how to use it? |
| 21:59.46 | jolt^d4__ | mvfeinstein: gdb program |
| 21:59.50 | jolt^d4__ | then "run" in gdb |
| 21:59.54 | Absolute0 | i am trying to patch the alsa driver to get my hda intel audio card working, I am following this guide:http://www.score5.org/content/linux/debian-linux-install-dell-latitude-d830 when i run the patch command i get this error: 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c.rej |
| 21:59.56 | jolt^d4__ | and see if it crashes again |
| 22:00.12 | Absolute0 | any suggestions to what i am doing wrong? |
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| 22:00.18 | enouf | FelipeSouza: but where are you seeing this error? --> "but isn't working (according to the lack of the folder cpu-freq in /sys/devices/...)" |
| 22:00.39 | Marbug | k simonrvn I'mm search the logs :) |
| 22:01.01 | simonrvn | Absolute0: you, nothing, as long as it matches your current kernel closely enough, means the patch needs fixing |
| 22:01.06 | rockzman | How do I tar all files of machine with X name? |
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| 22:01.24 | Knight_Lord | Can anyone tell me why my swap partition doens't have UUID? |
| 22:01.31 | simonrvn | !tar |
| 22:01.31 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory", or goes with feathers |
| 22:01.39 | simonrvn | and shell globbing |
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| 22:01.44 | Absolute0 | simonrvn: any clue which part of it needs fixing? :) |
| 22:01.50 | simonrvn | Knight_Lord: it does |
| 22:02.01 | Knight_Lord | simonrvn: how can i check it? |
| 22:02.14 | simonrvn | Absolute0: no, i'm not a mind reader, i can only tell you the whole patch failed |
| 22:02.17 | rockzman | simonrvn, thanks for try to help is a bit different situation |
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| 22:02.27 | enouf | Knight_Lord: file -s /dev/nameX ? |
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| 22:02.42 | simonrvn | Knight_Lord: tbh i dunno, but they all have an uuid, or yeh try what he said |
| 22:02.47 | rockzman | simonrvn, i want all files with X name to be on the tar |
| 22:02.57 | Knight_Lord | enouf: i don't have such thing |
| 22:03.17 | Knight_Lord | nothing in /dev/disk/by-uid also |
| 22:03.20 | enouf | Knight_Lord: my bad, i mean $ sudo /lib/udev/vol_id /dev/hdc2 |
| 22:03.25 | simonrvn | rockzman: in, and use shell globbing |
| 22:03.37 | enouf | Knight_Lord: also ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 22:03.58 | rockzman | simonrvn, ? |
| 22:04.04 | Knight_Lord | enouf: that only shows my root partition |
| 22:04.24 | enouf | Knight_Lord: well alter hdc2 to correct /dev/nameN |
| 22:04.25 | Knight_Lord | /lib/udev/vol_id -u /dev/sdn2 |
| 22:04.25 | Knight_Lord | botticelli:~# |
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| 22:04.34 | Absolute0 | How can I enable CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL in the kernel in debian, some dude suggested it to make HDA work? |
| 22:04.37 | Knight_Lord | vol_id returns nothing |
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| 22:04.48 | enouf | sdn2 Knight_Lord ? |
| 22:04.57 | Knight_Lord | that's my swap partition |
| 22:05.06 | simonrvn | rockzman: man bash; search for globbing |
| 22:05.11 | enouf | you have 13+ HDDs? lol |
| 22:05.16 | chops | mvfeinstein: Hm, it may be difficult then. You might have more luck disabling modules one by one and seeing when the segfaults get resolved. |
| 22:05.20 | Knight_Lord | enouf: yes why? |
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| 22:05.32 | enouf | no biggy, just not typical |
| 22:05.57 | enouf | Knight_Lord: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid | grep sdn |
| 22:06.02 | Knight_Lord | the disks on the raid controllers also don't seem to have UUID for some reason |
| 22:06.08 | mvfeinstein | chops, already tryed that with no luck |
| 22:06.17 | Knight_Lord | enouf: only sdn1 shows up i already told you |
| 22:06.19 | chops | mvfeinstein: It still segfaults with no modules? |
| 22:06.19 | enouf | oh, raid |
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| 22:06.28 | Knight_Lord | enouf: software raid |
| 22:06.29 | mvfeinstein | chops yep |
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| 22:06.34 | simonrvn | disks don't get one, partitions do |
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| 22:06.36 | ribnitz | heyas. |
| 22:06.59 | enouf | so /dev/md0 , see /etc/mdstats ? and /proc/mdstat, iirc |
| 22:07.00 | Knight_Lord | simonrvn: ok that explains it |
| 22:07.09 | ribnitz | Is http://pastebin.com/d69e8d158 worth a bug? (current sid/experimental as of today)? |
| 22:07.09 | chops | mvfeinstein: Is there particular content that seems to cause the seg faults? Does debsums report that the packages are okay? |
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| 22:07.20 | Knight_Lord | But still sdn2 doesn't have any UUID |
| 22:07.22 | enouf | er /etc/mdadm/* |
| 22:07.32 | Knight_Lord | /lib/udev/vol_id -u /dev/sdn2 doesn't return anything |
| 22:07.42 | Knight_Lord | empty UUID |
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| 22:08.06 | simonrvn | that's weird |
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| 22:08.13 | enouf | Knight_Lord: is the swap partition part of the RAID? maybe it's using a LABEL |
| 22:08.17 | ribnitz | abrotman: heya. dp you think http://pastebin.com/d69e8d158 is worth a bug? |
| 22:08.20 | mvfeinstein | chops its the same page the causes it every time I am running debsums now |
| 22:08.26 | cizzi | do x38 chipset motherboards work under linux? |
| 22:08.27 | enouf | Knight_Lord: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label | grep sdn |
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| 22:08.32 | cizzi | or too new? |
| 22:08.35 | Knight_Lord | enouf: no it's not part of the raid, and I don't care if it's using label or not, I want UUID |
| 22:08.45 | enouf | heck ls -l /dev/disk/* |
| 22:08.53 | enouf | that's nice |
| 22:08.56 | Knight_Lord | enouf: it's not using label |
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| 22:09.08 | enouf | maybe it doesn't exist |
| 22:09.08 | simonrvn | mdadm might be able to tell you the raid bits' uuids |
| 22:09.13 | abrotman | ribnitz: i'd ask #debian-oo on OFTC |
| 22:09.16 | lurch | what is the name of the kernel for debain that supports multiple cpus is it smp? |
| 22:09.33 | simonrvn | they're all smp now |
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| 22:09.41 | enouf | i told you 5 times now how to check |
| 22:09.54 | Knight_Lord | /dev/sdn1 1 608 4883728+ 83 Linux |
| 22:09.54 | Knight_Lord | /dev/sdn2 609 1216 4883760 82 Linux swap / Solaris |
| 22:09.59 | mvfeinstein | Is this a probelm or can I just ignore it debsums: no md5sums for php5 |
| 22:10.09 | dacs | how can i look channel /list is not working for me |
| 22:10.11 | lurch | way to many people in this channel to see responses without using lurch: |
| 22:10.11 | enouf | fstab doesn't mean you made it correctly |
| 22:10.24 | Knight_Lord | enouf: that's fdisk not fstab |
| 22:10.25 | enouf | run mkswap on it |
| 22:10.29 | enouf | even fdisk |
| 22:10.32 | ribnitz | abrotman: what IRC server? 446014 looks vaguely similar. |
| 22:10.33 | enouf | doesn't matter |
| 22:10.47 | enouf | dmesg will show you if it's up |
| 22:10.47 | Knight_Lord | enouf: I see so it might not be formated |
| 22:10.54 | enouf | ciorrect |
| 22:10.57 | abrotman | ribnitz: irc.oftc.net .. but only 6 there |
| 22:10.58 | enouf | cat /proc/swaps |
| 22:11.09 | simonrvn | dacs: /list is for channel listing, you want /names or /nicks |
| 22:11.11 | enouf | man mkswap |
| 22:11.14 | lurch | simonrvn: how do i check for both cpus? |
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| 22:11.20 | Knight_Lord | enouf: I know it's not used |
| 22:11.34 | simonrvn | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 22:11.48 | dacs | simonrvn: i am trying to see if there is a channel called (e.g ccna) so i did /list ccna |
| 22:11.51 | Knight_Lord | enouf: thanks a lot |
| 22:11.58 | enouf | ok |
| 22:12.02 | Knight_Lord | enouf: seems like for some reason I had forgoten to format it |
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| 22:12.15 | enouf | yeah, sometimes an oversight |
| 22:12.17 | simonrvn | or to make it interesting, tac /proc/cpuinfo |
| 22:12.18 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 22:12.41 | simonrvn | dacs: easier to just ask chanserv that stuff, it accepts globs too |
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| 22:13.34 | simonrvn | dacs: /msg chanserv list *foo* , for examples |
| 22:13.35 | lurch_ | simonrvn: which kernel do i have to install to be able to use both dual xeon quad core cpus? |
| 22:13.41 | simonrvn | s,s,, |
| 22:14.01 | simonrvn | not showing up? what is it running now? |
| 22:14.15 | lurch_ | just 1 cpu is present |
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| 22:14.33 | abrotman | lurch_: in etch? |
| 22:14.40 | abrotman | lurch_: uname -a .. show us what you're using |
| 22:14.41 | dacs | simonrvn: thanks |
| 22:14.48 | lurch_ | yes etch |
| 22:15.19 | simonrvn | i asked you 2 questions, i'm waiting on the second |
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| 22:15.49 | dacs | simonrvn: who me? |
| 22:15.53 | lurch_ | simonrvn: currently 1 cpu shows up , im running etch with kernel 2.6.18-5-686 SMP |
| 22:15.58 | simonrvn | no, lurch_ |
| 22:16.06 | abrotman | lurch_: where does only one show up? |
| 22:16.14 | simonrvn | thanks for answering |
| 22:16.17 | simonrvn | odd, it should be showing up |
| 22:16.19 | enouf | dacs: IINM, you need to use *ccna* <-- notice the |
| 22:16.26 | lurch_ | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 22:16.37 | abrotman | lurch_: which is the last that is counted? 1 or 0 ? |
| 22:16.43 | simonrvn | should see cpu0 and cpu1 at least |
| 22:16.46 | dacs | enouf: what do you mean |
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| 22:16.57 | dacs | IINM?! |
| 22:16.57 | abrotman | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor |
| 22:17.05 | simonrvn | enouf: s'ok, i covered that ;) |
| 22:17.11 | enouf | dacs: when doing /msg Chanserv list #*channelname* |
| 22:17.22 | MaximusBrood | Sight, I need to learn to trust debian more. It gave me a suggested default gateway, but I discarded it and tried other addresses for over 15 minutes. Turns out the suggested one is corrent -.- |
| 22:17.33 | enouf | yeah, but i added the # simonrvn ;-) |
| 22:17.35 | lurch_ | ok they are there just needed to not cat gets cut off |
| 22:17.45 | abrotman | lurch_: huh ? |
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| 22:17.55 | simonrvn | won't matter with the prefixed glob |
| 22:17.58 | lurch_ | abrotman: both cpus are there 0 and 1 |
| 22:18.00 | patrick-- | Hey, anyone fermilliar with the "sieve" mailfilter? |
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| 22:18.07 | abrotman | lurch_: but you said it was a dual quad core ? |
| 22:18.09 | patrick-- | The mailfilter does stuff like moving the mail to other folders and also denying them, but when it comes to sending mails, like vacation notes, or notification mails, sieve just wont send... |
| 22:18.09 | enouf | dacs: oh, hehe, iinm == if i'm not mistaken |
| 22:18.16 | filemon111 | hi |
| 22:18.19 | simonrvn | your cat got cut off? |
| 22:18.27 | abrotman | it was a bloody mess |
| 22:18.28 | lurch_ | abrotman: i have 2 quad core xeon 2.0gh processors |
| 22:18.35 | simonrvn | patrick--: i haven't used sieve with sendmail stuff, but it rocks |
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| 22:18.40 | abrotman | 2*4=8 ? |
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| 22:18.51 | enouf | 8 cores ftw |
| 22:18.54 | patrick-- | simonrvn: well, it doesnt for me |
| 22:18.59 | simonrvn | should have 8 in cpuinfo, no? |
| 22:18.59 | lurch_ | 8 cores but only 2 cpus |
| 22:18.59 | filemon111 | where can i find 64bit debian for intel core2?? |
| 22:19.16 | enouf | what kernel is he using? |
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| 22:19.23 | simonrvn | filemon111: on the website |
| 22:19.29 | enouf | filemon111: the amd64 arch |
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| 22:19.34 | aizen | is it normal for firefox to use up 230MB in virtual memory? |
| 22:19.37 | lurch_ | 2.6.18-5-686 SMP |
| 22:19.44 | simonrvn | 0-7 |
| 22:19.58 | simonrvn | aizen: yes, it's a fricking hog |
| 22:19.59 | enouf | odd, must be missing HT support or something |
| 22:20.01 | abrotman | aizen: depends how long it's been running |
| 22:20.07 | aizen | simonrvn: agreed |
| 22:20.07 | filemon111 | amd64 arch work on intel core 2?? |
| 22:20.14 | abrotman | filemon111: it will yes |
| 22:20.17 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 22:20.17 | dpkg | i guess amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. It also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64. For flash on amd64, ask me about <nspluginwrapper> |
| 22:20.19 | stew | aizen: no, it usually uses much more |
| 22:20.22 | aizen | abrotman: doesn't it free memory? It has been running for a long time |
| 22:20.26 | enouf | filemon111: yes |
| 22:20.31 | abrotman | aizen: it will free it when you close it :) |
| 22:20.34 | aizen | not very nice since I have 128MB phys memory |
| 22:20.41 | enouf | filemon111: see what dpkg said above about it ^^^^ |
| 22:20.48 | patrick-- | My sieve mailfilter does stuff like moving the mail to other folders and also denying them, but when it comes to sending mails, like vacation notes, or notification mails, sieve just wont send... |
| 22:20.57 | filemon111 | thx |
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| 22:21.16 | chops | aizen: You may want to look into dillo. Also, FWIW, apparently a lot of the problem is not that it actually leaks memory per se, but just that it fragments memory very badly |
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| 22:21.25 | simonrvn | filemon111: yes |
| 22:21.25 | simonrvn | i've seen ff use 350 VMB VM |
| 22:21.30 | aizen | abrotman: that is stupid, why doesn't it free memory by itself? But thanks, I will close it now to free my precious memory |
| 22:21.33 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: you do need a newer kernel but i'm not sure which one. It's not a HT issue i think |
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| 22:21.40 | enouf | aizen: i use links2 -g .. ftw ;-) |
| 22:21.46 | stew | the 3.0 release of firefox is supposed to fix a lot of the memory hogging |
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| 22:21.46 | simonrvn | damn laggy irssi. time to "reboot" it |
| 22:21.48 | abrotman | aizen: uhm .. it isn't a great browser? :) |
| 22:21.49 | BudgetDedicated | somehow one of our webservers (debian stable) has a broken php5 setup. The php version is partially at 5.2.0-10, but in the stable with update this should be 5.2.0-8+etch9. How could this be did the mirrors do something bad lately? I've checked and it does not seem to be comming from testing which has 5.2.4. |
| 22:21.53 | chops | aizen: http://www.canonware.com/~ttt/2007/11/firefox-fragmentation.html |
| 22:21.54 | lurch_ | khight_lord: ok |
| 22:21.57 | stew | stew 3446 0.4 17.4 867176 359096 pts/7 Sl 2007 145:11 /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin -a firefox |
| 22:22.00 | stew | yow |
| 22:22.04 | lurch_ | knight_lord: ill keep searching |
| 22:22.12 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: just install a new one |
| 22:22.21 | chops | BudgetDedicated: Installed from sid or ubuntu perhaps? |
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| 22:22.26 | abrotman | aizen: someone posted a line in here a few weeks ago .. FF was using 1GB or maybe more |
| 22:22.27 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: you can even try to grab one from sid to check if ti works |
| 22:22.29 | BudgetDedicated | chops no |
| 22:22.29 | enouf | whoa </neo> |
| 22:22.33 | lurch_ | knight_lord: theres like 10 to choose from |
| 22:22.46 | abrotman | enouf: you mean </joeyFromBlossom> ? |
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| 22:22.55 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: take the latest |
| 22:23.05 | aizen | abrotman: haha, great browser. Versions before 2 ran fine for me, but this is unacceptable. |
| 22:23.22 | lurch_ | Knight_Lord: there are different ones for the amount of cpus and ram though |
| 22:23.28 | chops | aizen: I have 256 phys memory at home, so I feel your pain. Everything works fine except firefox and dpkg :-( |
| 22:23.33 | aizen | chops: thanks I'll check it out |
| 22:23.34 | enouf | abrotman: no, hehe, i meant keanu, ala matrix ;-) |
| 22:23.39 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: just take 486 smp |
| 22:23.41 | simonrvn | stew: i've used v 3.x beta/alpha watever, and it is not so bad |
| 22:23.45 | chops | aizen: It's an issue that some people are taking a good hard look at |
| 22:23.56 | simonrvn | wh* |
| 22:23.56 | chops | aizen: But that doesn't do much for you today, obviously :- |
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| 22:23.58 | chops | :-( |
| 22:24.02 | simonrvn | %^((*%&&^R** lag! |
| 22:24.07 | ribnitz | ok. back. |
| 22:24.21 | aizen | chops: no, but it is nice that they look into it anyway :) |
| 22:24.31 | BudgetDedicated | chops the webserver has been online for almost two years as a production server, the server never changed the sources list to anything but stable |
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| 22:25.02 | stew | BudgetDedicated: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php5.html that version of php5 hit unstable in march and testing in april |
| 22:25.05 | enouf | abrotman: that wasn't a yosemite sam; "When i says a woah, i means a Woah!" :-P |
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| 22:25.10 | stew | BudgetDedicated: what version of libc6 is installed on that machine? |
| 22:25.23 | abrotman | enouf: i think so |
| 22:25.30 | aizen | There aren't many things that are more boring than sitting and waiting for the computer to swap like all its physical memory |
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| 22:25.59 | cafuego | aizen: Pffft. |
| 22:26.31 | cafuego | aizen: Back when we had 8Mb ram and 16Mb swap you didn't hear us complain (unless we tried to run emacs) |
| 22:26.40 | enouf | heh |
| 22:26.55 | aizen | cafuego: haha :) |
| 22:26.57 | BudgetDedicated | stew 2.3.6.ds1-13etch4 |
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| 22:26.58 | samo | hi all, i have accidentely removed files from a fat partition , the drive that holds this partition is inside a debian running machine. Does anyone know of a software i could use to recover this data ? |
| 22:27.03 | Pi3rrot | hi all ! |
| 22:27.05 | RichiH | cafuego: heh |
| 22:27.12 | ribnitz | aizen: I am in the peculiar sitation, I have less swap than memory. |
| 22:27.33 | Pi3rrot | i want to compile lirc on my debian 64, but i have this message : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51264/ anyone know how to compile? |
| 22:27.46 | ribnitz | samo: If it is a fat partition any dos undelete tools will do.. |
| 22:27.56 | simonrvn | chops: that graph is crazy |
| 22:28.03 | BudgetDedicated | stew I do not see any mention of 5.2.0-10 in the page you gave me |
| 22:28.04 | samo | ribnitz, thanks, is there ay free tool to do the job ? |
| 22:28.11 | stew | BudgetDedicated: i do |
| 22:28.22 | enouf | lurch_: so you see only 2 CPUs in cpuinfo output? (cpu0 and cpu1) ? |
| 22:28.25 | stew | BudgetDedicated: i see it entering unstable in march and migrating to testing in april |
| 22:28.37 | lurch_ | enouf: yes |
| 22:28.46 | enouf | lurch_: have you got APIC, ACPI, AHCI enabled in the BIOS? |
| 22:29.03 | enouf | though ahci, not so much |
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| 22:29.13 | lurch_ | enouf: its a vm i can check sec |
| 22:29.26 | enouf | er.. not sure about VMs |
| 22:29.40 | BudgetDedicated | stew right |
| 22:29.51 | ribnitz | samo: I dont know any offhand; but I dont use fat partitions.. |
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| 22:30.07 | lurch_ | enouf: dont see any of those settings in bios |
| 22:30.10 | chops | simonrvn: I suspect that most real-world apps display a similar pattern when you analyze them in detail. Memory allocation is really hard to do well and really easy to sweep under the rug. |
| 22:30.20 | samo | ribnitz, thanks anyay, i m sure google can help |
| 22:30.27 | enouf | lurch_: they must be there - also check dmesg for APIC, IOAPCI, LAPCI |
| 22:30.32 | enouf | gah' |
| 22:30.38 | enouf | lurch_: they must be there - also check dmesg for APIC, IOAPIC, LAPIC |
| 22:30.42 | BudgetDedicated | stew so it was at one time in testing, and somehow ended up on a stable system. I found out just now because I wanted to install an additional php5 module |
| 22:31.20 | enouf | samo: http://www.guzu.net/linux/datarecovery.php |
| 22:31.29 | enouf | samo: look there for fat rcovery tools |
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| 22:31.44 | samo | enou: thanks for the link |
| 22:31.45 | BudgetDedicated | stew I'll run a check to see if any other packages on the system are at the wrong version. Problem is that for instance the lbc6 is at the current etch version as it should be |
| 22:31.51 | simonrvn | chops: and people are getting sloppier about it |
| 22:32.18 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: why would you have the 8 cpus available in the vm? |
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| 22:32.29 | chops | simonrvn: After all, memory's cheap! |
| 22:32.29 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: are you really sure you exported them all? |
| 22:32.42 | simonrvn | chops: to some people |
| 22:32.53 | cafuego | chops: rdram costs an arm and a leg, liar. |
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| 22:33.27 | Agiofws | is there a link to 3d desktop in lenny ? |
| 22:33.39 | lurch_ | Knight_Lord: i should have the 2 quad cores available |
| 22:33.40 | ribnitz | Agiofws: 3d desktop? |
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| 22:33.41 | Agiofws | !3d |
| 22:33.41 | dpkg | it has been said that 3d is You need to compile kernel support for your card. Plus u need DRI + GLX support in X |
| 22:33.44 | chops | simonrvn: It's _very_ cheap if you're a developer and the memory is in the end-user's machine :-) |
| 22:33.56 | chops | simonrvn: You could even say it's free. |
| 22:33.58 | at0m|c | Agiofws, 3ddeskd, 3ddesk |
| 22:34.07 | Agiofws | ribnitz, i have all that already |
| 22:34.19 | Agiofws | i need the app that produces the effects |
| 22:34.20 | BudgetDedicated | any options available to check the versions installed against the versions in the repository? |
| 22:34.25 | simonrvn | chops: ha! ;) |
| 22:34.28 | lurch_ | enouf: there all in dmesg except ioapic |
| 22:34.30 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: so you exported 8 cpus to the vm? |
| 22:34.33 | chops | BudgetDedicated: apt-cache policy packagename |
| 22:34.48 | Agiofws | ? |
| 22:34.56 | Agiofws | apt-get install beryl ? |
| 22:35.25 | lurch_ | Knight_Lord: what do you mean exported them to the vm? |
| 22:35.30 | ribnitz | When I log out of my (xfce) session I get loads of odd blinking chars instead of the xdm again; which package is broken? |
| 22:35.38 | stew | BudgetDedicated: yeah, it looks like that version of php5 would have been compiled against 2.3.6.ds1-13 which was the current sid version at the time that version hit unstable so its not suprising that your libc6 is ok |
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| 22:35.41 | enouf | lurch_: well, as i said, no sure about VM stuff, but without APIC, and ACPI many times fewer cores/cpus are seen - i can only talk about real boot, not VM booting |
| 22:35.45 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: you have to define how many CPUs to give to each VM right? |
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| 22:36.13 | abrotman | simonrvn! |
| 22:36.16 | lurch_ | Knight_Lord: i gave it 2 which are quad core xeon 2.0ghz processors |
| 22:36.26 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: that's your mistake |
| 22:36.45 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: a 2 quad core xeon is not a 2 CPU machine but an 8 cpu machine |
| 22:36.59 | lurch_ | Knight_Lord: i only have the option for 2 |
| 22:37.23 | jthomas | when I use tightVNC from a windows machine (server) to my debain box, the refreshrate is horrible; is there any way I can lower the quality or something with my 'xtightvncviewer -listen' to speed it up? |
| 22:37.26 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: that could be a limitation of the VM or the host OS |
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| 22:37.47 | Knight_Lord | h |
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| 22:37.56 | Knight_Lord | jthomas: what about decreasing the color depth? |
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| 22:38.14 | enouf | Agiofws: a Window manager is compiz that handles that .. |
| 22:38.25 | lurch_ | Knight_Lord: my host vm has cpus 0-7 |
| 22:38.28 | Knight_Lord | jthomas: flat background and simple window manager (say windowmaker) also helps |
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| 22:38.48 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: so you exported them all to the vm? |
| 22:38.54 | jthomas | Knight_Lord: that's what I am looking for, looking into it now, thanks... i coulda RTFM first, sorry guys... i just like some contact now and again ;) |
| 22:39.36 | lurch_ | Knight_Lord: i cant export them all the most vmware server lets me do is 2 |
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| 22:39.50 | enouf | lurch_: curious what are you using? vmware? xen? |
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| 22:39.56 | Knight_Lord | lurch_: that's a limitation of the vmware then |
| 22:39.58 | enouf | ahh |
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| 22:40.57 | Knight_Lord | jthomas: some vnc clients allow you to change resolution on the client side |
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| 22:41.19 | pikudo | jthomas: freenx + rdesktop is far more quicker.... |
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| 22:42.36 | BudgetDedicated | stew, it seems not to be that bad though. most packages (even some php5 stuff) is at the right etch version. I do not quite get how it happened, I'll ask my colleague tommorrow if he ever tried to fetch some stuff from testing manuallt |
| 22:42.54 | BudgetDedicated | thank you |
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| 22:43.21 | stew | BudgetDedicated: yeah, that php5 is old enough that it was before etch and sid diverged very much, which is why things are not so bad. do you need help sorting it out? |
| 22:43.58 | BudgetDedicated | stew, no I'll manage I know my way around this stuff, I just could not figure out how this could have happened |
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| 22:44.38 | JymmmEMC | I edited the "default" options in grub to have vga=791 but when I reboot it doesn't take, what did I miss? |
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| 22:45.07 | jthomas | pikudo: I don't think FreeNX runs on Windows... this is a Windows server, Debian client (usually my customers run the Windows) |
| 22:45.42 | simonrvn | jthomas: running update-grub |
| 22:45.48 | simonrvn | JymmmEMC: ^^^ |
| 22:45.54 | simonrvn | jthomas: sorry mis-tabbed |
| 22:46.04 | JymmmEMC | simonrvn: ok, will try |
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| 22:46.23 | jthomas | I tried -depth 16 and -rgb233 and -quality 0 but I don't see any major differences, but this is two local machines testing right now... I'll have to test it more with remote connections... |
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| 22:47.29 | JymmmEMC | simonrvn: on the nose =) TY. |
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| 22:48.09 | JymmmEMC | simonrvn: You wouldn't know by chance how to get it to prepend the microtime for each item it's starting do you? |
| 22:48.13 | farhat | hi all |
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| 22:48.25 | ribnitz | hello |
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| 22:49.15 | simonrvn | JymmmEMC: no, but it's documented in the kernel docs |
| 22:49.25 | enouf | JymmmEMC: i think that's a kernel compile in option only, not sure |
| 22:49.41 | jthomas | hello ribnitz! |
| 22:49.52 | JymmmEMC | simonrvn enouf ok, thank you. Not a biggy, just personal pref =) |
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| 22:50.51 | JymmmEMC | It's not worth the trouble as ubuntu-server had given me with crap and sshd |
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| 22:51.54 | Nyle | hi |
| 22:52.09 | simonrvn | hullo |
| 22:52.19 | cheetahj25 | would debian be a good choice to use for my uncle... he has a; 566Mhz/128MB Ram pc... all he really needs is internet, print capabilities, and super easy to use CD burner |
| 22:52.20 | streuner | Nyle: huhu |
| 22:52.30 | Nyle | le hoo hoo? |
| 22:52.40 | farhat | I need to build the mozart package, but I can't find in the upstream sources the debian directory, where can I find these scripts to build it? can you help me? |
| 22:52.44 | Nyle | cheetahj25: debian would be a fine choice |
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| 22:52.52 | cheetahj25 | is there like a pre-packaged super small version of debian, or can i install only certain things using the net-install |
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| 22:53.18 | cheetahj25 | any recommendation on the cd software... he is used to like drag and drop |
| 22:53.20 | Nyle | cheetahj25: you should run him debian base system, X11, firefox or whatever, xfce, or some other window manager |
| 22:53.39 | Nyle | hm yehhhhh |
| 22:54.03 | ribnitz | cheetahj25: k3b |
| 22:54.08 | dkr | cheetahj25: if you don't choose any server/desktop options from the netinst takes about 200MB for the basic install |
| 22:54.10 | Nyle | well not debian there are debian based distros for old pcs |
| 22:54.31 | Nyle | but debian works fine if you just install it |
| 22:54.48 | Nyle | and then install whatever else you need on top of it, it work sout better that way cuz you dont' isntall crap you don't need |
| 22:54.49 | cheetahj25 | i originaly installed puppy-linux... but the cd burner software was too complicated for him |
| 22:55.00 | ribnitz | cheetahj25: xfce4, plus a few selected apps, web browser (firefox), thunderbird (imap/pop3 mail), ooffice... |
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| 22:55.13 | Nyle | k3b is a good software, if you like you can purchase nero for linux |
| 22:55.17 | cafuego | ooffice on 128Mb? Are you insane? |
| 22:55.19 | Nyle | if he is familiar with nero |
| 22:55.23 | Nyle | cafuego: i've done it! |
| 22:55.27 | cheetahj25 | i was thinking of installing dsl, but then i was thinking maybe just small distro of debian is better |
| 22:55.29 | cafuego | You're insane! |
| 22:55.32 | ribnitz | cafuego: oh.. ;) |
| 22:55.33 | Nyle | i know |
| 22:55.40 | cafuego | Something like gnumerci adn abiword would be a better bet. |
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| 22:55.47 | Nyle | of course |
| 22:55.50 | simonrvn | and runs like crap |
| 22:55.57 | Nyle | i did on 128mb ram, 866mhz p3 |
| 22:56.06 | ribnitz | cafuego: I was thinking about the usual letter-writing-app.. |
| 22:56.15 | cafuego | ribnitz: vim? |
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| 22:56.18 | farhat | someday when i had 128 Mb, ran office too |
| 22:56.20 | Nyle | i had kde, firefox, ooo, k3b, bunch of other kde apps i use a lot and god knows what else |
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| 22:56.28 | ribnitz | cafuego: for non-programmers? |
| 22:56.31 | Nyle | all on 128mb ram |
| 22:56.36 | cafuego | ribnitz: sure! |
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| 22:56.44 | cheetahj25 | k3b only works with kde ? |
| 22:56.47 | Nyle | no |
| 22:56.48 | cafuego | cheetahj25: no |
| 22:56.52 | cheetahj25 | oh ok.. |
| 22:57.08 | ribnitz | cafuego: I got used to a bloatware called eclipse; I rarely write any letters.. |
| 22:57.16 | cafuego | ribnitz: eep |
| 22:57.22 | ribnitz | cheetahj25: it needs some libs. |
| 22:57.39 | Nyle | kdelibs |
| 22:57.43 | cheetahj25 | i will try - thank you |
| 22:57.46 | ribnitz | cheetahj25: but works fine in xfce4 just fine. |
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| 22:59.00 | cafuego | arrgh, sneezing fit |
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| 23:10.29 | bronaugh | hmm, any idea why g++ on amd64 would create binaries with invalid instructions in them? |
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| 23:12.41 | Agiofws | how do you install xgl on lenny |
| 23:13.15 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:~$ compiz |
| 23:13.17 | Agiofws | Checking for Xgl: not present. |
| 23:13.17 | afaikafaik | I followed this guide: http://www.score5.org/content/linux/debian-linux-install-dell-latitude-d830 to get my hda audio working but now the sound card is even recognized, i ran alsaconf rebooted and still no help alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 23:13.19 | Agiofws | No whitelisted driver found |
| 23:13.21 | Agiofws | aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity |
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| 23:13.44 | ucro | ah dkr |
| 23:13.50 | ucro | you seek presence here |
| 23:13.56 | ucro | while you ban me in ##politics |
| 23:14.02 | ucro | you realizre |
| 23:14.04 | ucro | you realize |
| 23:14.09 | chops | !ops ucro |
| 23:14.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: chops complains about: ucro |
| 23:14.12 | Ronin | take it else where please ucro |
| 23:14.12 | ucro | that's the ONLY channel on freenode |
| 23:14.23 | ucro | ronin - |
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| 23:14.29 | ucro | tell dkr to unban me in ##politics |
| 23:14.31 | Ronin | !ops ucro is taking a different channel fight here |
| 23:14.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: ronin complains about: ucro is taking a different channel fight here |
| 23:14.41 | ucro | you bet ronin |
| 23:14.44 | ucro | I'll never give up |
| 23:14.45 | Maulkin | Right |
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| 23:14.48 | ucro | I'll waste day and night |
| 23:14.51 | Maulkin | ucro: go elsewhere for this |
| 23:14.52 | ucro | ban me - gline me |
| 23:14.54 | ucro | I BIKED with LILO |
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| 23:14.57 | ucro | and fuck ya all |
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| 23:15.00 | Maulkin | Ok, will do |
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| 23:15.05 | tomaw | :) |
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| 23:15.13 | Ronin | wow children are on irc in force this week |
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| 23:15.29 | chops | Ronin: I have a feeling that was the same child that was upset about dkr previously |
| 23:15.45 | Ronin | chops: most likely |
| 23:15.55 | tomaw | Indeed it was. |
| 23:16.02 | cafuego | It's the same child that always spams all freenode channels. |
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| 23:16.22 | cafuego | For the ugly truth is: there is only ONE troll! |
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| 23:16.27 | Maulkin | Someone waah at a oper will ya? My battery is almost dead |
| 23:16.34 | DieFledermaus | !qotd |
| 23:16.34 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". at 204 (2008-01-04) |
| 23:16.36 | tomaw | Maulkin: I already got him |
| 23:16.39 | Maulkin | ta tomaw |
| 23:16.40 | Dave2 | Maulkin, we're watching |
| 23:16.54 | stew | tomaw: Dave2: cheers |
| 23:17.01 | Maulkin | See, you should be on the staff channel on <--- network, then I'd know to pester you :P |
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| 23:17.55 | Dave2 | mmm, beer |
| 23:17.58 | Dave2 | Maulkin, hm? |
| 23:18.02 | deepak | stew:i cannot debug the problem in configuring pppoe |
| 23:18.04 | Maulkin | Dave2: never mind :) |
| 23:18.21 | stew | wang |
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| 23:19.13 | bronaugh | hmmm, this is kind of wierd / irritatingc. |
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| 23:20.09 | bronaugh | amd64 + debian sid + binutils 2.18.1~cvs20080103-1 + g++ 4.2.2-5 |
| 23:20.23 | bronaugh | g++ creates binaries containing invalid instructions. |
| 23:20.48 | bronaugh | anyone have any idea why this might be? |
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| 23:21.20 | zmitya | hi all |
| 23:21.22 | Decepticon | debian package manager says that i should update these packages: bsdutils, libfreetype6, mount, util-linux.... my question is if i update, will my hdds get dismounted? will stuff happen to my computer with its currently functionning condition, like i dont want it to dismount all my hdds or something and remount them |
| 23:21.24 | zmitya | quick question |
| 23:21.29 | Decepticon | does anyone know what im saying |
| 23:21.41 | zmitya | whet I do sudo bash, I cannot set up root's PATH somehow |
| 23:21.43 | Decepticon | not just mount, but any other packages |
| 23:21.47 | zmitya | how can I set that ? |
| 23:21.50 | Ronin | Decepticon: didnt unmount for me when i did that |
| 23:21.58 | karsten | Does csh/tcsh allow setting the terminal window string in a shell prompt as bash does? |
| 23:22.02 | zmitya | env_keep does not work :( |
| 23:22.06 | jolt^d4__ | Decepticon: Nothing will unmount or get rebooted until you do it yourself |
| 23:22.13 | bronaugh | karsten: in all probability, it does. read the man page. |
| 23:22.14 | deepak | anyone help me configuring XDSL connection in debian |
| 23:22.32 | Decepticon | ok that was my concern |
| 23:22.33 | zmitya | env_keep does keep everything but $PATH :( |
| 23:22.33 | themill | zmitya: try sudo su - or sudo bash -ls. But what are you really trying to do? |
| 23:22.47 | karsten | bronaugh: I'm doing that, plus howtos and googling. It's a bit obscure. |
| 23:22.49 | JymmmEMC | Other than using aliases, is there a way to set a subnet of ips'? Like 0.0.0.0/28 as example? |
| 23:22.53 | zmitya | themill: I need sudo bash for some reason |
| 23:23.08 | zmitya | I just need to set up a dir to root's $PATH after sudo bash |
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| 23:23.20 | bronaugh | karsten: you sure it's not just PS1? |
| 23:23.24 | envisean | anyone here know what the pkg name is for mysql-devel? |
| 23:23.53 | jolt^d4__ | envisean: apt-cache search mysql dev |
| 23:24.11 | karsten | bronaugh: Yes. |
| 23:24.17 | bronaugh | http://www.freebsddiary.org/prompt-tcsh.php |
| 23:24.20 | themill | envisean: libmysqlclient15-dev |
| 23:24.21 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: Setting in what? |
| 23:24.32 | bronaugh | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.35 | bronaugh | http://www.nparikh.org/unix/prompt.php |
| 23:24.37 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:24.38 | bronaugh | plenty of info. |
| 23:24.39 | karsten | bronaugh: The question isn't "what is the shell prompt" (it's $prompt, BTW), but how to code in ANSI sequences to set xterm title bars. |
| 23:24.53 | bronaugh | karsten: that's coding in ANSI sequences. see wikipedia |
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| 23:25.05 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: you mean setting it on an interface like ethX? |
| 23:25.16 | karsten | bronaugh: That page doesn't include tcsh or csh, found it already. |
| 23:25.18 | bronaugh | karsten: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code |
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| 23:25.33 | suppaman | hi |
| 23:25.36 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: I'm trying to figure out what you actually want to do |
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| 23:26.07 | karsten | bronaugh: Thanks, that's not particularly helpful though. |
| 23:26.22 | bronaugh | karsten: STFW. |
| 23:26.43 | karsten | bronaugh: I think this may be a bashism -- the \[content\] sequence says "ignore this" to bash. I don't see similar for tcsh. |
| 23:26.48 | karsten | bronaugh: HAND. |
| 23:26.48 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: Yes, I have a range of ip's 0.0.0.0 - 0.0.0.255, instead of having eth0:0 - eth0:255 I'd like to have something like eth0: 0.0.0.0/24 |
| 23:27.20 | suppaman | bronaugh: stfw ? |
| 23:27.36 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: Why on earth do you want to do that? |
| 23:27.39 | JymmmEMC | suppaman: stfw = search the fscking web |
| 23:27.51 | suppaman | wtf is lackign that one.. |
| 23:27.56 | suppaman | lacking* |
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| 23:28.03 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: so I dont have to have 255 entries in interfaces |
| 23:28.09 | bronaugh | suppaman: Search The Fine Web |
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| 23:28.19 | \amethyst | karsten: the tcsh equivalent to bash's \[...\] in PS1 is %{...%} in prompt |
| 23:28.23 | suppaman | mm, how polite |
| 23:28.24 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: Yes, but why do you want to have that many IPs on a single interface? |
| 23:28.38 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: vhosting (ssl) |
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| 23:29.08 | happla | =) |
| 23:29.16 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: different domains? |
| 23:29.22 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: yes |
| 23:29.24 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: as subdomains then? |
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| 23:29.34 | suppaman | can you suggest me a very light bittorrent client ? |
| 23:29.34 | bronaugh | karsten: also: http://kung-foo.tv/ansi.html |
| 23:29.41 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: Or totally different domains? |
| 23:29.42 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: no, all different domains |
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| 23:29.49 | twiggz | suppaman: transmission |
| 23:29.51 | Ronin | suppaman: wow deja vu, rtorrent and google.com |
| 23:29.54 | twiggz | or rtorrent |
| 23:30.15 | karsten | bronaugh: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/xterm-title-bar-manipulations.html describes the nitty-gritty for bash. My answer (this is an internal support question) would tend towards "just use bash, it's better", but wee're sort of legacy here. |
| 23:30.16 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: Ah. In that case you should do a script that creates those IPs and call it from an "up" statement on the eth0 interface |
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| 23:30.22 | karsten | \amethyst: Thanks, that looks useful. |
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| 23:30.34 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: k |
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| 23:30.57 | suppaman | twiggz: didn't knew transmission was multiplatform.. |
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| 23:31.12 | twiggz | sure, i use it on freebsd and linux. |
| 23:31.34 | twiggz | its in apt |
| 23:31.35 | suppaman | twiggz: I do on OS X |
| 23:31.39 | suppaman | how nice thanks |
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| 23:31.56 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: like "for i in $(seq 1 255); do ifconfig eth0:$i 10.0.0.$ 255.255.255.0 ; done" or something similar. I don't know the exact syntax from the top of my head |
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| 23:32.08 | suppaman | I was using bittornado but I can't manage speed while it's running |
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| 23:32.38 | twiggz | i think transmission is great. |
| 23:32.41 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: But shouldn't that be possible to solve with vhosts in apache? It works for wildcard certs anyway |
| 23:32.48 | bronaugh | I think no one knows what the hell my question was. |
| 23:32.52 | suppaman | twiggz: oh so transmission is not written in obj-c, now I get why simbl plugins aren't working |
| 23:32.59 | garotosops | Is it possible to pass two commands to find -exec? like find -name \*.py -exec echo {} \; cat {} \; or is there anything else that could achieve this result? |
| 23:33.10 | suppaman | twiggz: indeed it is |
| 23:33.33 | suppaman | I'll definitely switch to gui if there's transmission available |
| 23:33.34 | dkr | garotosops: -exec foo -exec bar |
| 23:33.57 | twiggz | its available from my sources. i use etch. |
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| 23:34.00 | garotosops | dkr, nice. thank you. |
| 23:34.12 | suppaman | twiggz: I'm on stable too |
| 23:34.18 | suppaman | I'm aptinstalling it |
| 23:34.28 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: But you still need to bind the ip's to an iface before apache touches them =) |
| 23:34.41 | suppaman | twiggz: no I was wrong this box is on lenny |
| 23:34.54 | suppaman | whatever |
| 23:34.58 | twiggz | shouldnt matter. |
| 23:34.59 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: SSL requires it's own ip address, as it use http/1.0 not 1.1 |
| 23:35.03 | suppaman | it doesn't |
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| 23:35.17 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: Not for wildcard certs |
| 23:35.21 | suppaman | I was just confusing it with debian on ibook |
| 23:35.31 | pickcoder | wilcard certs only work for subdomains |
| 23:35.31 | JymmmEMC | jolt^d4__: each domain will have it's own cert |
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| 23:35.42 | twiggz | Im thinking of making my wife beat my stepdaughter with a length of garden hose. she needs it. |
| 23:35.44 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: Ok. Then use the script solution |
| 23:35.50 | twiggz | little pill. |
| 23:35.57 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: Then you don't have to have thousands of entries in your interfaces file |
| 23:36.11 | karsten | Here we go: e% set prompt = '%{\033]0;titlebar% \007%}shell prompt% ' |
| 23:36.13 | enkidu_ak | I am attempting to install mplayer compiled from source and made into a deb using fakeroot. When I attempt to install the deb using dpkg -i, I receive a message stating that the upgrade has been refused. Why would I receive this emssage? |
| 23:36.16 | karsten | Works in tchs... |
| 23:36.22 | karsten | tcsh, rather. |
| 23:36.26 | suppaman | twiggz: stepdaughter? |
| 23:36.32 | twiggz | yes. |
| 23:36.45 | themill | enkidu_ak: why not just use mplayer from debian-multimedia.org ? |
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| 23:36.47 | suppaman | ok I got it |
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| 23:37.09 | enkidu_ak | themill: It's not build with amr-nb support. |
| 23:37.13 | suppaman | twiggz: I never heard the word before |
| 23:37.24 | suppaman | twiggz: but I have Oxford American Dictionary widgets ;-) |
| 23:37.36 | twiggz | lol |
| 23:37.36 | astro76 | you're welcome ;) |
| 23:37.43 | astro76 | damn |
| 23:37.48 | enkidu_ak | themill: Apparently the mplayer engine has to be compiled with amr-nb implicitly enabled. It's annoying, but that's life. |
| 23:37.50 | suppaman | is there a dashboard-like on Xorg? |
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| 23:38.21 | themill | enkidu_ak: so are you using marillat's source packages and just changing the compile options? |
| 23:38.47 | venger | i have my iptables script in if-up.d but see htat it runs it for both interfaces (obviously), 2 times consecutively on boot. should I be doing something different or is there a way to get it to run for a specfic interface (external)? |
| 23:38.47 | enkidu_ak | themill: No, I'm using the rc2 svn source and building it with fakeroot |
| 23:38.49 | karsten | More useful and close to my bash prompt: set prompt = '%{\033]0;%n@%m:%~\007%}[%n@%m:%~]% ' |
| 23:39.00 | twiggz | does anyone use AWN on etch? |
| 23:39.03 | enkidu_ak | themill: It compiled without issue |
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| 23:39.38 | pickcoder | venger: use the env variable "$IFACE" to run only for the one in question |
| 23:39.43 | themill | enkidu_ak: did you give it a sensible version number? that's most likely to be the problem if you are getting an error message like that. |
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| 23:40.18 | jolt^d4__ | JymmmEMC: Another ugly hack would be to have different servers on different ports and iproute it I guess |
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| 23:40.30 | bronaugh | ok, this happens with both g++ 4.1 and g++ 4.2, and both the known-good and the unknown version of binutils |
| 23:40.30 | bronaugh | and I still get SIGILL |
| 23:40.35 | bronaugh | it's always at exactly the same spot, too. |
| 23:40.36 | cafuego | suppaman: No. |
| 23:40.37 | venger | pickcoder, logic against the setting in my script and exit or run as appropriately? |
| 23:40.46 | enkidu_ak | themill: I didn't supply a version number, actually. I'll try rebuilding the package and specifying one. |
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| 23:40.49 | cafuego | suppaman: It would be a window manager function, not an X function. |
| 23:40.51 | protoloco | Hey i need ultramonkey for debian ETCH, i just see debian SARGE... >( |
| 23:41.21 | suppaman | cafuego: or even a standard program, that's why I used a generic "on Xorg" |
| 23:41.23 | enkidu_ak | themill: I'm still learning my way around dpkg and apt-get. It's an interesting transition from Slackware. |
| 23:41.27 | pickcoder | venger: yeah. I normally exit for "lo" up top |
| 23:42.06 | cafuego | suppaman: I think gnome and the new KDE have something along those lines. |
| 23:42.06 | venger | pickcoder, good idea thanks for the tip and i didn't know about $IFACE |
| 23:42.06 | cafuego | suppaman: Don't know about anything else. |
| 23:42.06 | pickcoder | you can also set your own env vars |
| 23:42.06 | suppaman | cafuego: I don't care about the software arch, just what it's meant to |
| 23:42.06 | pickcoder | and check then whenever the iface comes up or goes down |
| 23:42.14 | xlotlu | any idea how i can dial a number on a UTMS/3G modem? (that is, not connect to the provider's APN) |
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| 23:42.42 | venger | pickcoder, since that is in ifup.d i would assume it would be comming up |
| 23:42.59 | pickcoder | venger: correct |
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| 23:43.32 | {Nathan} | How can I tell Debian that my system clock is _not_ set to UTC? |
| 23:43.50 | venger | pickcoder, are you running the same script on if.down but deleting tables, etc? |
| 23:44.05 | pickcoder | venger: no I use init |
| 23:44.15 | xlotlu | i tried something like AT+CGDATA="PPP"; AT+CGDCONT=1,"PPP","phone number"; ATD*99***1# -- but i get no carrier |
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| 23:44.38 | pickcoder | but I have done that before, yes |
| 23:45.06 | suppaman | xlotlu: I think 3g devices has a AT compliant modem too |
| 23:45.06 | suppaman | have* |
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| 23:45.06 | protoloco | what happens if i have debian ETCH, and i install a package (ultramonkey) that is in SARGE.. could i have troubles? |
| 23:45.06 | venger | pickcoder, just trying to understand the need to check up or down, at least in my case |
| 23:45.12 | deepak | how to play .dat file in Mplayer in debian? |
| 23:45.12 | cafuego | deepak: rename it to .mpg (I assume it's a VCD) |
| 23:45.12 | bronaugh | if it's just a VCD you can use mplayer to play it directly. |
| 23:45.12 | bronaugh | try renaming it to .iso if anything. |
| 23:45.12 | deepak | i do install it but it unable to play it |
| 23:45.12 | bronaugh | if it's a bin/cue file combination, you could use bchunk to extract the image. |
| 23:45.12 | deepak | do extension change make it decode by mplayer |
| 23:45.26 | bronaugh | extensions are an input to mplayer's decoder choices. |
| 23:45.40 | protoloco | HELLO!? |
| 23:45.42 | pickcoder | venger: if you want the tables to be at the whim of ifconfig, then that's the way to do it. A script for ifup.d and one for ifdown.d |
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| 23:46.14 | suppaman | xlotlu: I've no clue, sorry |
| 23:46.21 | venger | pickcoder, alright we were on the same page it seems. thanks for the tips. |
| 23:46.23 | pickcoder | if-up.d / if-down.d to be specific |
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| 23:47.09 | bronaugh | ok, no use in me being here. |
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| 23:47.32 | enkidu_ak | themill: What issues might I be faced with if I compile and install it the regular way (make; make install) instead of building a deb package and using dpkg? |
| 23:47.35 | xlotlu | suppaman: yeah, for AT+CGDCONT=? i get IP, PPP and IPV6... but i can't figure out how to actually configure it |
| 23:48.03 | pickcoder | enkidu_ak: depends problems? |
| 23:48.23 | pickcoder | which you can fake, but still it's no the right way to install something if it's already packaged |
| 23:48.30 | tarzeau | peterS: can you reproduce #162492 ? |
| 23:48.31 | pickcoder | s/no/not |
| 23:48.50 | tarzeau | peterS: wait if it's lua, it's elinks... reassigning |
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| 23:49.21 | suppaman | xlotlu: again, no clues |
| 23:49.21 | suppaman | g'night I'm off to sleep |
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| 23:49.21 | netdaemon | hm |
| 23:49.59 | pickcoder | protoloco: you probably won't be able to install it |
| 23:50.11 | pickcoder | protoloco: look at the depends list first |
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| 23:50.39 | MkS | Hi |
| 23:50.42 | MkS | I got a question |
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| 23:52.32 | pickcoder | protoloco: I can't find a package called ultramonkey |
| 23:53.02 | protoloco | pickcoder, u need to add some source.. |
| 23:53.10 | protoloco | is for clustering |
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| 23:53.19 | protoloco | pickcoder, lots of dependecies :S |
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| 23:53.25 | pickcoder | then it's not an official package? |
| 23:53.33 | protoloco | i think not :S |
| 23:53.43 | pickcoder | verify the depends against what's in Etch |
| 23:54.09 | pickcoder | or try to find a newer package for Etch |
| 23:54.12 | protoloco | oks.. |
| 23:54.15 | protoloco | :) |
| 23:54.16 | protoloco | thanks |
| 23:54.18 | karsten | \amethyst: Waht's the tcsh equivalent of a bash case/esac? I'd like to test $TERM and only set prompt if it's xterm or equivalent. |
| 23:54.25 | MkS | Hello |
| 23:54.49 | MkS | i can make a RAID1 with 2 diferent sizes drives ? |
| 23:55.04 | MkS | Soft raid in debian off course |
| 23:55.09 | happla | MkS: yes, the raid will be the size of the smaller of the drive |
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| 23:55.37 | karsten | MkS: What happla said. |
| 23:55.46 | mosty | MkS, yes. if the sizes differ a lot, you can partition so as to have a non-raided partition for the leftover |
| 23:55.48 | pickcoder | unless you partition the bigger drive and make 2 identical paritions |
| 23:55.52 | karsten | MkS: You can also play with LVM + RAID if you'd like. |
| 23:55.55 | pickcoder | one on each drive |
| 23:56.01 | MkS | Its any different in HW RAID ? |
| 23:56.05 | MkS | or its the same ? |
| 23:56.09 | karsten | MkS: Nope. |
| 23:56.13 | MkS | Yeah the config its in LVM |
| 23:56.15 | pickcoder | not even close |
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| 23:56.33 | MkS | I mean: i have a RAID 1 in HW controller |
| 23:56.46 | pickcoder | some HW and Linux gurus I know would beg to differ on performance |
| 23:56.47 | MkS | now i want to replace one HDD with another of bigger size ... |
| 23:56.51 | karsten | MkS: For anything but RAID0, the usable space on any disk in an array is restricted to the smallest disk. |
| 23:57.09 | pickcoder | MkS: you can only get safe hot-swap with a RAID controller |
| 23:57.26 | karsten | MkS: software raid allows you to construct arrays using partitions on disks, so you could use the leftover space _outside_ of the array, but dpeending on how you do that you may affect performance, reliability, or both. |
| 23:57.28 | MkS | and eventually replace the smaller one with other bigger, in fact the same size as the previous |
| 23:57.44 | karsten | MkS: I'd LVM on top of RAID in that case. |
| 23:58.02 | karsten | MkS: ... and even then I'd be very reluctant to break the array, swap drives, rebuild, and extend. |
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