| 00:00.39 | kgoetz | silent_: can you add the new drive in, expand the volumes to include the new drive, then shrink them off the old drive? |
| 00:00.39 | kgoetz | leOn: you can either add a new host entry into sites-enabled, or simply edit sites-available/default |
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| 00:02.22 | silent_ | kgoetz: the system is completely separate from the lvm. The lvm is a group of 3 separate hard disks. I'm moving the OS from flash disk to flash disk. |
| 00:02.58 | kgoetz | silent_: ah right. afk, company meeting |
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| 00:06.27 | leOn | kgoetz: where does that help on setting a different doc_root for suexec ? |
| 00:07.27 | Zharf | well this is weird |
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| 00:09.42 | Zharf | I put in my xorg.conf in keyboard section Option "XkbLayout" "fi,us"\nOption "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" (as instructed in http://www.xfree86.org/current/XKB-Config2.html#5), when I change to us layout, my spaces are interpreted somehow funny (irssi thinks "/me foo" is one command and can't find it)... but when I run "setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout "fi,us" -option "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"" when X is running, it works just fine... |
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| 00:11.07 | K|NgGh0sT | Hello, I'm having slow connects to FTP/SSH/etc.. and I think it may be a DNS issue. The thing is I use a typical home router and the DNS on there is fine, how can I check if this is the case? |
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| 00:24.50 | Black_Cat | www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=102371 |
| 00:24.52 | Black_Cat | what it is? |
| 00:25.43 | GhostlyDeath | How can I have gnome-terminal log in to a remote omputer via SSH? |
| 00:25.57 | avtobiff | GhostlyDeath, what do you mean? |
| 00:26.15 | avtobiff | GhostlyDeath, do you want to log in to another computer with ssh? |
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| 00:26.19 | GhostlyDeath | avtobiff: Like how theirs putty for windows |
| 00:26.20 | avtobiff | in gnome-terminal? |
| 00:26.23 | GhostlyDeath | yes |
| 00:26.27 | GhostlyDeath | it support that? |
| 00:26.29 | avtobiff | GhostlyDeath, type ssh user@host |
| 00:26.31 | avtobiff | omg |
| 00:26.42 | avtobiff | GhostlyDeath, just use ssh inside a terminal :-) |
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| 00:27.00 | GhostlyDeath | thanks |
| 00:27.16 | avtobiff | GhostlyDeath, np. |
| 00:27.25 | kestir | I have a weird question. To remote into my work network I rdp to a windows machine, then ssh to the linux box. Is there a way to skip the rdp part? |
| 00:27.41 | kestir | i have to rdp and then ssh to the 192.168 address once im inside |
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| 00:28.39 | avtobiff | kestir, make some sort of tunnel or forwarding from the windows machine |
| 00:28.49 | kestir | hmm |
| 00:28.54 | kestir | man page ? |
| 00:28.59 | avtobiff | for windows shit? |
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| 00:29.09 | kestir | i don't know...im on a linux box at home |
| 00:29.10 | avtobiff | stop using windows and then man iptables |
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| 00:29.30 | kestir | the ip address to get into the network is a windows box... |
| 00:29.32 | avtobiff | kestir, but you go youcompz -> win -> gnubox ? |
| 00:29.41 | kestir | aye |
| 00:29.48 | avtobiff | yes. then you have to make a tunnel from the *windows* *machine* |
| 00:30.00 | avtobiff | and i dont care about windows |
| 00:30.07 | bahamat | I need to debug bind, as far as I can tell it's configured properly, it just doesn't find anything |
| 00:30.11 | kestir | neither do i, lol, which is why i want to skip the rdp |
| 00:30.15 | avtobiff | besides. i bet it goes beyond this channel etc. |
| 00:30.27 | avtobiff | kestir, install debian on the winbox ^_^ |
| 00:30.42 | bahamat | does anybody know how I can do that? |
| 00:30.47 | kestir | lol...i would if i could...i've already managed to convert 3 servers to unix machines |
| 00:31.09 | kestir | the windows box i use to get in is set up for telecommuters |
| 00:31.15 | avtobiff | bahamat, several ways. |
| 00:31.18 | kestir | they wouldn't be able to handle debian :) |
| 00:31.36 | avtobiff | bahamat, check the logs (/var/log etc), use strace, use gdb |
| 00:31.48 | avtobiff | telecommuters? they commute? |
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| 00:32.04 | bahamat | avtobiff: I've tried strace, and I don't see anything even remotely interesting |
| 00:32.14 | avtobiff | bahamat, anything in some log? |
| 00:32.27 | K|NgGh0sT | Whats the command to see what DNS server my server is using? |
| 00:32.29 | bahamat | avtobiff: what I'd like, is for it to log all database lookup operations, like "I parsed the file for foo" |
| 00:32.46 | bahamat | avtobiff: I found this page: http://www.netadmintools.com/art233.html |
| 00:33.01 | avtobiff | it was some time i played around with bind |
| 00:33.07 | bahamat | avtobiff: but all it logs is that it recieved a query, it doesn't say wether it was sucessful or not |
| 00:34.28 | avtobiff | bahamat, aha. sorry i dont think that i am to any further help to you :-( |
| 00:34.46 | K|NgGh0sT | When I type host 192.168.0.2 I get Host 2.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 00:34.54 | K|NgGh0sT | COuld that mean I do have a reverse DNS issue? |
| 00:34.56 | avtobiff | i'll just go to bed now. night. |
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| 00:35.14 | lun0s | hey |
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| 00:35.39 | lun0s | when i run a shell script i get permission denied and im root |
| 00:35.49 | muramas | kestir: http://rtfm.insomnia.org/~qg/portforward.php seems to be a windows port forwarder |
| 00:35.58 | dvs | lun0s: the file does not have execute permissions |
| 00:36.22 | muramas | K|NgGh0sT: that is a reverse dns issue; are you hosting a reverse dns zone for your lan? |
| 00:36.25 | lun0s | even if im root? |
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| 00:36.43 | dvs | lun0s: you need execute permissions on the file even as root |
| 00:36.52 | lun0s | so chmod 777 |
| 00:36.55 | lun0s | ? |
| 00:36.59 | dvs | that'll work |
| 00:37.04 | K|NgGh0sT | muramas, I think my server is hosting one even though I don't want it to, but my dns should be what my home router has (4.2.2.2) |
| 00:37.05 | kestir | muramas: nice, thank you |
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| 00:37.12 | DeathWolf | is there any way in 2.6.X kernels to force release some of the cache so that applications that use mmap massively dont swap too much? |
| 00:38.27 | dkr | DeathWolf: there are lots of ways to weak the behavior of the kernel memory subsystems via /proc or sysctl |
| 00:38.34 | dkr | s/weak/tweak/ |
| 00:38.38 | DeathWolf | sysctl sounds good |
| 00:38.54 | muramas | K|NgGh0sT: if you dont want reverse dns on your lan, the above response seems appropriate |
| 00:38.55 | DeathWolf | maybe vm.swappiness |
| 00:39.17 | K|NgGh0sT | muramas, how can I tell what DNS my machine to using? |
| 00:39.27 | muramas | K|NgGh0sT: usually /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 00:40.58 | K|NgGh0sT | It is pointing to 192.168.0.1 which is right... then why the heck is SSH/FTP/etc so slow |
| 00:41.00 | DeathWolf | dkr: know of any other? |
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| 00:41.04 | DeathWolf | (sysctl switches) |
| 00:41.20 | muramas | K|NgGh0sT: do forward dns lookups hang? |
| 00:41.37 | muramas | K|NgGh0sT: long delays on "dig google.com" |
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| 00:42.51 | petemc | K|NgGh0sT: dns is going to have nothing to do with slow ssh/ftp, |
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| 00:43.18 | K|NgGh0sT | petemc, everyone seemed to think it did last night |
| 00:43.26 | petemc | well, they're wrong |
| 00:43.28 | K|NgGh0sT | I don't want to format over such a trivial thing |
| 00:43.38 | petemc | the initial connection, perhaps |
| 00:43.46 | petemc | but once the connection is established, no |
| 00:44.11 | K|NgGh0sT | Its the connection I'm having an issue with |
| 00:44.23 | dkr | K|NgGh0sT: maybe another machine has the same ip address as your machine |
| 00:44.26 | K|NgGh0sT | It takes 30 seconds for my password prompt in ssh, and ftp can't even connect in 60 mins |
| 00:44.29 | K|NgGh0sT | dkr, nope |
| 00:44.43 | dkr | DeathWolf: not offhand |
| 00:44.54 | petemc | K|NgGh0sT: thats not "slow" thats "not working" |
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| 00:44.57 | dkr | K|NgGh0sT: ifconfig show any link level errors? |
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| 00:45.20 | dkr | and try ssh -v to see at precisely which step it hangs |
| 00:45.39 | K|NgGh0sT | I didn't think I said not working |
| 00:45.53 | petemc | if you havent connected after 60 minutes.. |
| 00:46.02 | K|NgGh0sT | 60 seconds |
| 00:46.12 | K|NgGh0sT | I turned the timeout up to 2 mins and it eventually does connect |
| 00:46.15 | petemc | read up |
| 00:47.10 | K|NgGh0sT | dkr, I'm connecting via a windows machine to the linux machine so I'm using putty |
| 00:47.10 | petemc | if that is the case, what dkr said, perhaps even ssh -vvv , and you can run the target sshd in debig mode |
| 00:47.24 | petemc | s/ig/ug/ |
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| 00:48.57 | K|NgGh0sT | I don't know how |
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| 00:49.28 | petemc | if only someone had thought to write it down, somewhere |
| 00:49.48 | Nostahl | hey guys im having problems mounting my dvd rom's any idea's |
| 00:49.56 | Rahsputin74 | what does foo mean in this sentence: You can also put the gpg-key used to sign the repository into config/chroot_sources/foo.{binary,bootstrap}.gpg ( i am building a Debian CD and need some app from the MultimediaRepos which need a key ) |
| 00:50.22 | petemc | K|NgGh0sT: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 00:50.39 | shamrock | If there are any one here who uses zabbix with debian could you suggest why my zabbix server can not ping my main dev machine on the same lan? It says "Got empty string from [debian-dev] IP [192.168.0.101] Parameter [agent.ping]" |
| 00:50.42 | Rahsputin74 | is it this number :: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add |
| 00:50.49 | Rahsputin74 | 1F41... |
| 00:50.57 | K|NgGh0sT | Also I just updated my resolvconf and now the resolv.conf is empty... |
| 00:51.39 | petemc | eat the elephant in small pieces |
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| 00:53.59 | davidwong | anyone know how to make /tmp exec,? without rebooting?? |
| 00:54.06 | n_np | my site will not connect to a mysql server on a different host, how can i fix that? |
| 00:54.07 | Nostahl | is there anything special i have to do after the first bootup after i install new hardware (ie i just put in a new dvd rom) |
| 00:54.18 | Nostahl | ie i want to rebuild fstab i guess is what i need to do? somehow |
| 00:54.38 | wols_ | Nostahl: you hav to add the DVD to your fstab so you can easily mount disks from it |
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| 00:54.58 | Nostahl | wols_ how do i find out how to add it manualy |
| 00:55.06 | Nostahl | wols_is there a way to auto do it |
| 00:55.20 | wols_ | check what device it occupies (dmesg), then add it to fstab |
| 00:55.29 | wols_ | no there is no way to automaticall do it |
| 00:56.10 | Nostahl | what do i search for exactly so i can grep it |
| 00:56.44 | Rahsputin74 | maybe dmesg | grep dvd |
| 00:56.51 | Nostahl | ty |
| 00:56.53 | Nostahl | i'll try that |
| 00:56.55 | K|NgGh0sT | screw it, I'm just gonna format. This ssh/ftp slow login is gonna drive me insane |
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| 00:59.17 | wols_ | K|NgGh0sT: reformats are no answer |
| 00:59.57 | K|NgGh0sT | It wasn't doing this last week |
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| 01:00.20 | davidwong | anyone know how to make /tmp exec,? without rebooting?? |
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| 01:01.21 | Rahsputin74 | what exec ? |
| 01:01.28 | davidwong | right now its set to non exec |
| 01:01.37 | baloo | Oooh UT3 |
| 01:01.40 | Rahsputin74 | davidwong, what exec |
| 01:01.52 | davidwong | you see /tmp ext3 defaults,nosuid,nodev,noexec 1 2 |
| 01:01.57 | davidwong | i want to make it exec |
| 01:02.07 | davidwong | how do i take that out withoub rebooting |
| 01:02.23 | enouf | remount it |
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| 01:02.44 | davidwong | remount? |
| 01:02.46 | poli | davidwong: check the remount option in man mount |
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| 01:02.51 | enouf | what's df -T say? |
| 01:03.00 | enouf | what's df -T | grep /tmp say? |
| 01:03.11 | davidwong | ext3 2063536 43304 1915408 3% /tmp |
| 01:03.24 | enouf | yeah, remount |
| 01:03.32 | davidwong | hwo do i remount? |
| 01:03.37 | poli | davidwong: man mount |
| 01:03.40 | enouf | man mount |
| 01:03.41 | davidwong | mount /tmp |
| 01:03.48 | davidwong | mount -a? |
| 01:04.03 | enouf | mount -o remount .... </hint> |
| 01:04.15 | davidwong | mount -o /tmp? |
| 01:04.19 | enouf | rofl |
| 01:04.23 | davidwong | ;) |
| 01:04.29 | Rahsputin74 | ;) |
| 01:04.32 | davidwong | yes or no? |
| 01:04.51 | Maulkin | no or yes? |
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| 01:05.02 | davidwong | i got it!! |
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| 01:05.07 | davidwong | mount -o remount /tmp |
| 01:05.12 | davidwong | is that it? |
| 01:05.23 | davidwong | do i need to shut down my apache first? |
| 01:05.25 | enouf | getting warmer |
| 01:06.02 | davidwong | mount -o remount /dev/cciss/c0d0p2 /tmp |
| 01:06.03 | poli | davidwong: /tmp will never be umounted this way, you in practice just change the mount options when you use remount |
| 01:06.04 | davidwong | like that? |
| 01:06.28 | davidwong | can someone give me an example.. |
| 01:06.45 | enouf | getting warmer |
| 01:06.55 | davidwong | enouf. mount -o remount /dev/cciss/c0d0p2 /tmp |
| 01:06.59 | davidwong | that is not correct? |
| 01:07.14 | muramas | davidwong: you have to remount it with the options you want to change |
| 01:07.15 | davidwong | am I getting HOT? |
| 01:07.16 | enouf | !tias |
| 01:07.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, tias is try it and see, or what you should have done first |
| 01:07.36 | davidwong | oh i seee |
| 01:07.45 | enouf | you're getting annoying, does that count? |
| 01:08.07 | davidwong | mount -o remount,noexec /tmp |
| 01:08.07 | karsten | Ruby question: how would I go about getting/installing "trollop" as a gem, needed by sup, see: http://sup.rubyforge.org/README.txt |
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| 01:08.21 | davidwong | enouf. is that closer? |
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| 01:08.27 | poli | davidwong: didn't you want to enable exec in the first place? |
| 01:08.41 | davidwong | yeah |
| 01:08.43 | petemc | davidwong: would it not be easier just to read how the mount command works? |
| 01:08.44 | davidwong | mount -o remount,exec /tmp |
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| 01:09.07 | davidwong | poli. so mount -o remount,exec /tmp . then run my stuff. then set it back to mount -o remount,noexec /tmp |
| 01:09.16 | davidwong | what about the rest of the stuff? |
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| 01:09.28 | davidwong | do i need to include those? |
| 01:09.43 | davidwong | poli. like nosuid,nodev,noexec |
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| 01:10.00 | poli | davidwong: only what you want to change from the original mount should be enough. |
| 01:10.02 | davidwong | so you saying to do this.. mount -o remount,nosuid,nodev /tmp? |
| 01:10.05 | Maulkin | nosuid is ok. nodev is probably fine too |
| 01:10.11 | muramas | davidwong: if you're just remounting, it only changes the options you specify |
| 01:10.18 | davidwong | I see!! :) |
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| 01:10.31 | davidwong | so this will do. mount -o remount,exec /tmp |
| 01:10.48 | davidwong | do i need to stop my apache for /tmp log? |
| 01:10.57 | davidwong | or it will be seamless |
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| 01:11.24 | muramas | should be seamless, but.. do you log to /tmp? |
| 01:11.29 | davidwong | yes i do |
| 01:11.36 | davidwong | well sessions goes there |
| 01:11.38 | poli | davidwong: I already told you that: your /tmp will not be unmounted in the process. So if your application will not be caught by the exec thing, no need to stop. |
| 01:11.50 | davidwong | poli. I see thanks!! let me try |
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| 01:11.55 | davidwong | thank you so much.. |
| 01:12.17 | davidwong | whats the command to see if its exec or non exec. is it df -T? |
| 01:12.25 | rndn | how do I get a list of uninstalled packages? |
| 01:12.38 | enouf | cat /proc/mounts |
| 01:12.44 | davidwong | thanks!! |
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| 01:12.59 | davidwong | working like a charm enouf :) |
| 01:12.59 | enouf | rndn: dpkg -l | grep ^.u (perhaps) |
| 01:13.01 | davidwong | thank you sir!! |
| 01:13.53 | rndn | dpkg only seems to list installed packages (no lines have ^.u) |
| 01:13.55 | davidwong | good stuff man!! i like it |
| 01:14.00 | rndn | that is dpkg -L <-- lowercase? |
| 01:14.07 | rndn | everything it lists is ii |
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| 01:14.36 | wols_ | ii means "installed" basically |
| 01:14.37 | lun0s | hey |
| 01:14.45 | baloo | Hmm, it's not wine, UT2004 is fscking up too |
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| 01:15.04 | enouf | $ dpkg -l alsa* | grep ^.n | less <-- a tad better :-P |
| 01:15.09 | wols_ | rndn: it's "rc" when you have removed but not purged |
| 01:15.17 | enouf | er $ dpkg -l | grep ^.n | less <-- a tad better :-P |
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| 01:15.34 | fas3r | hello a MIB is based on osi model ? |
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| 01:16.11 | enouf | i guess you can also review the dpkg log or learn to use aptitude |
| 01:16.14 | rndn | perhaps -l, without any options, lists only installed packages? when I do dpkg -l '*apache*' it lists installed and uninstalled (exactly what I wanted) |
| 01:16.14 | SixT6 | You could say that, yes |
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| 01:16.42 | rndn | I was using aptitude, but searching through that with n n n n n n n... |
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| 01:17.39 | rndn | so yeah, dpkg -l '*' will list uninstalled too. |
| 01:17.44 | rndn | thanks |
| 01:18.30 | enouf | heh $ dpkg -l \* | grep ^.n | less , but it formats funny |
| 01:18.47 | lun0s | "Load the driver module to kernel and start up nic |
| 01:18.48 | lun0s | " |
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| 01:18.55 | lun0s | would some one be able to help me with that? |
| 01:19.05 | lun0s | Not sure how to load a module to the kernal |
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| 01:19.18 | SixT6 | lun0s: modprobe modulename |
| 01:19.23 | enouf | ahh |
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| 01:19.30 | enouf | heh $ dpkg -l \*.* | grep ^.n | less |
| 01:19.36 | enouf | rndn: ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 01:19.38 | lun0s | now sure how to find out the modulename |
| 01:20.03 | lun0s | SixT6: Its for a rtl8187B chipset |
| 01:20.39 | enouf | !tell lun0s -about which driver |
| 01:20.43 | rndn | I'm not nearly so efficient with my commandline. I just put ' ' around anything that might be suspect |
| 01:21.03 | rndn | how do you think so quickly that, "there's no file starting with an *. in my directory" |
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| 01:21.19 | Elive_user10 | What do you type to see the version of xorg you have? |
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| 01:21.41 | Elive_user10 | xorg -version |
| 01:21.43 | enouf | Elive_user10: you could apt-cache policy xorg |
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| 01:22.47 | lun0s | enouf:Im not using a pci |
| 01:22.54 | rndn | argh, I still can't find apxs (apache development/compilation tool) .. so do pardon me for this -- but what does it take to get this package to show up in aptitude: http://packages.debian.org/etch/apache-dev |
| 01:23.20 | asg | rndn: are you using apache or apache2? |
| 01:23.27 | enouf | that's nice lun0s |
| 01:23.31 | rndn | both |
| 01:23.50 | rndn | I was testing mod_deflate, but there doesn't seem to be a mod_gzip for apache2 unfortunately |
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| 01:23.54 | davidwong | i forgot there is a website I can go to to see which website is running what OS? anyone know?? the website |
| 01:24.05 | plb_ | netcraft |
| 01:24.06 | lun0s | enouf:dpkg is saying use lspci |
| 01:24.07 | asg | davidwong: netcraft |
| 01:24.12 | rndn | because in my tests a couple years back, mod_gzip out-compressed mod_deflate even with the highest compression settings (on mod_deflate) |
| 01:24.15 | lun0s | and lsusb once i do that what after? |
| 01:24.32 | rndn | so I was using apache2, but am going to try apache 1.3 right now |
| 01:24.40 | rndn | I need apxs for apache 1.3 |
| 01:25.02 | enouf | <lun0s> enouf:Im not using a pci <-- might beg a question |
| 01:25.22 | asg | rndn: install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search bin/apxs |
| 01:25.31 | asg | rndn: that will show you which package it's in. |
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| 01:26.02 | rndn | okay |
| 01:26.03 | enouf | davidwong: i usually just use strings and grep on /dev/mem :-P |
| 01:26.05 | rndn | thanks |
| 01:26.49 | davidwong | thanks dude.. |
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| 01:26.53 | enouf | strings /dev/mem | grep Server :-P |
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| 01:28.03 | DeathWolf | (and the total is 1GB of ram) |
| 01:28.21 | DeathWolf | it's as if it was forcing mmap to be in swap -_- |
| 01:28.41 | rndn | how do you know it's swapping, btw? |
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| 01:28.48 | DeathWolf | high io wait |
| 01:28.57 | thechef | how can i switch the entire system to UTF-8 |
| 01:28.59 | DeathWolf | (85+% |
| 01:29.14 | enouf | !locales |
| 01:29.14 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment (in Sarge) which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
| 01:29.20 | DeathWolf | Cpu(s): 5.2%us, 3.5%sy, 2.8%ni, 0.0%id, 86.7%wa, 0.7%hi, 1.2%si, 0.0%st |
| 01:29.20 | InsolitWork | can anyone tell me how to configure ssh-agent to start at boot time? |
| 01:29.26 | enouf | !utf-8 |
| 01:29.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, utf-8 is Unicode encoding and ISO 10646 characters as multibyte characters. RFC 2044. A superset of US-ASCII, can represent the full international characterset range of Unicode. See bug #214254 and http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO/howto.html, or And try <lang>_<CC>.utf8 as your LANG variable. Eg: export LANG=en_US.utf8 (for a US-centric view of things). Read ... |
| 01:29.35 | enouf | gah |
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| 01:30.18 | rndn | more more! |
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| 01:31.18 | itchi | How can i easy get the ip of eth0? I did this sad trick: |
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| 01:31.25 | rndn | DeathWolf: I don't know |
| 01:31.26 | itchi | ifconfig eth0 | sed -n 2p | sed s/' inet addr:'// | awk ' { print $1 }' |
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| 01:31.52 | enouf | i was actually thinking of UTC in /etc/default/rcS hehe |
| 01:31.52 | DeathWolf | :/ |
| 01:31.57 | aRyn | !logs |
| 01:31.58 | dpkg | logs are what you should always check when you have a problem. They live in /var/log/ |
| 01:31.58 | itchi | Should be work without the tool "ip" |
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| 01:32.34 | rndn | "my wife is upset at me... *sigh*.. cat /var/log/messages" |
| 01:32.37 | enouf | !prize iter |
| 01:32.40 | enouf | gah |
| 01:32.47 | enouf | itchi ;-) |
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| 01:33.20 | itchi | enouf: :-p |
| 01:33.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | rndn: "wife is trying to connect via ssh... last message repeated 1234253 times" |
| 01:33.39 | rndn | apt-file freezes up.. I was using my system off cdrom only, then I added debian's security and normal http stable, main, etc. repositories.. |
| 01:34.11 | rndn | then installed apt-file, updated, and apt-file wanted the cdrom inserted so I disabled the cdrom: entry in sources |
| 01:34.16 | rndn | now apt-file just sits there when I run it |
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| 01:34.26 | thechef | enouf: thanks, that helped |
| 01:34.47 | wols_ | !apt-spy |
| 01:34.47 | dpkg | somebody said apt-spy was a secret! Shh!, or like 'mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' :: apt-get install apt-spy; apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] :: when this finishes it will automatically write to your sources.list so if you have other mirrors there you'll have to "cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak" and fix your sources.list |
| 01:34.49 | rndn | CutMeOwnThroat: give her some security already |
| 01:34.52 | wols_ | rndn: run it |
| 01:35.01 | wols_ | rndn: after that, show us the results please |
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| 01:35.19 | rndn | guess I should install it first |
| 01:35.43 | rndn | ooh.. cool program, wols |
| 01:35.44 | wols_ | !tell rndn about sources.list |
| 01:35.50 | rndn | reading about it |
| 01:35.51 | wols_ | that you can use too. what contry are you in? |
| 01:36.05 | rndn | I'm in California :) |
| 01:36.06 | SixT6 | CutMeOwnThroat: Hot sausages inna bun? |
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| 01:36.48 | rndn | okay, running it on stable, N.A. |
| 01:36.50 | rndn | afk |
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| 01:37.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | itchi: well how about /sbin/ifconfig eth0 |awk '/inet addr:/ {print $2}' |
| 01:38.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | SixT6: the finest you've ever seen |
| 01:38.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | itchi: still got to get rid of the 'addr:', though |
| 01:38.53 | itchi | CutMeOwnThroat: Yeah :-) |
| 01:39.06 | aRyn | are there logs for this channel availabe? |
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| 01:39.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | sadly it's not possible to have more than one field separator (afaik) |
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| 01:39.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | else could do something like -F': ' and that'd be it |
| 01:40.18 | itchi | CutMeOwnThroat: I think there's a need to pipe him twice for satisfaction :-p |
| 01:40.31 | Sadneophyte | hi I have a slow computer and wanted to compile my own iceweasel, but i can't findthe source in the package tree, where would you look? thanks |
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| 01:40.55 | cizzi | anyone have a valid url for linux security howto? this one isnt working http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/Security-HOWTO.html |
| 01:41.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | itchi: well, would have been more impressive if I could've come up with soemthing like /sbin/ifconfig --ip ... or an extremely short awk |
| 01:41.31 | Sadneophyte | or is the unbranded iceweasel actually called icecat? |
| 01:41.33 | kgoetz | cizzi: look at debian-hardended, tehy would have links |
| 01:41.39 | cizzi | will o |
| 01:41.40 | cizzi | do |
| 01:41.41 | cizzi | thanks |
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| 01:42.39 | FelipeSouza | I'm using debian sid, processor: amd sempron 2400+, when i try "modprobe powernow_k7" i get this error: "FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k7 (/lib/modules/2.6.23-1-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k7.ko): No such device", how can i use cpu frequency scaling in my sempron 2400+? I tried a patch in net, with acpi, without acpi, my own compiled kernel, debian precompiled kernel, the result is ever the same. |
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| 01:43.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | itchi: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | perl -e 'while(<>){if(/inet addr:([0-9.]*)/){ print "$1"}}' |
| 01:43.32 | x86_ | where can I find all the networking security tools for debain? |
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| 01:44.11 | itchi | CutMeOwnThroat: If it's to keep it ugly, i leave it with sed and awk mix :-) |
| 01:44.21 | itchi | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't understand perl |
| 01:44.27 | Ugot2BkidNme | I have a stupid question can I run Postgrs and Mysql at teh same time using apt or do I need to install one seperatly |
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| 01:44.38 | itchi | CutMeOwnThroat: Thanks anyway |
| 01:44.43 | wols_ | Ugot2BkidNme: you can install both at the same time |
| 01:45.10 | houston2458 | x86: http://pauldotcom.com/ |
| 01:45.12 | x86_ | Felipe apt-get update then try apt-get powernow_k7 |
| 01:45.13 | enouf | cizzi: apt-get install harden-doc |
| 01:45.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | itchi: <> ist std-in; it searches for inet addr:, then prints everything after that which is nuber or point (regexp [0-9.]*) |
| 01:46.00 | Ugot2BkidNme | wols_ when I install one it tries ot uninstall the other |
| 01:46.36 | wols_ | strange. check their dependencies and conflicts |
| 01:46.41 | wols_ | wonder why |
| 01:47.01 | enouf | $ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 |awk '/inet addr:/ {print $2}' | cut -d: -f2 |
| 01:47.13 | enouf | no bueno? |
| 01:47.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | itchi: the main difference is, that I made the perl one output the ip with out "\n" at the end... might be more useful |
| 01:47.16 | aRyn | are there logs for this channel availabe |
| 01:47.30 | Ugot2BkidNme | OK well I am goign to scrap it and set up a new server anyway so if it isn't common than I hope I don't have that problem on the clean install of Etch |
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| 01:47.53 | FelipeSouza | x86_: this module already comes with the kernel, no need to install, and already checked, the module is there |
| 01:48.10 | x86_ | felipe did you do a ldconfig of the module? |
| 01:48.38 | itchi | CutMeOwnThroat: Well, then the sed and awk has the same amount of lenght |
| 01:49.07 | Ugot2BkidNme | thanks you very much Wols_ |
| 01:49.13 | FelipeSouza | x86_: no, but as the modules come with debian kernel, i supose the debian did |
| 01:49.28 | cizzi | with a chroot jail does that mean i can confine my users connecting via ssh to a specific dir like their home dir? |
| 01:50.05 | asg | cizzi: you probably want libpam-chroot for that |
| 01:50.13 | cizzi | asg- cool i'll look it up |
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| 01:50.38 | FelipeSouza | x86_: i tried ldconfig, same result |
| 01:50.56 | Insolit | anyone has the issue of always having a console opening in startup? (this happens in kde) |
| 01:51.01 | enouf | itchi: what i posted is no good? |
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| 01:52.38 | enouf | Insolit: well ssh-agent (your last question auto-starts with kde) - and look in ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 01:52.51 | enouf | Insolit: or whatever kcontrol says the location is |
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| 01:53.23 | Insolit | solved that installing rather keychain |
| 01:53.38 | itchi | enouf: Depend what type of medal it is :-p |
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| 01:54.18 | enouf | itchi: ? (i thought you wanted just the IP address) |
| 01:54.45 | enouf | Insolit: is it konsole that's firing up? |
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| 01:55.16 | itchi | enouf: Missed i a line? |
| 01:55.21 | enouf | Insolit: kcontrol also has that silly Reload Saved Session nonsense |
| 01:55.34 | itchi | enouf: Ohyeah, i just saw it now with /lastlog enouf |
| 01:55.38 | enouf | itchi: lay off the saki :-P |
| 01:55.40 | cizzi | i installed libpam-chroot but there's no man page for it and nothing on google.. any docs?? |
| 01:55.59 | itchi | enouf: Well, that's the problem, i don't have saki anymore :-( |
| 01:56.04 | enouf | :-/ |
| 01:56.32 | enouf | cizzi: dpkg -L pkgname |
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| 01:57.27 | cizzi | nice |
| 01:57.28 | itchi | enouf: You have used the shortest syntax |
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| 01:57.43 | cizzi | -L is always the docs for the pkg? |
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| 01:57.57 | enouf | no, man dpkg |
| 01:58.08 | davidwong | anyone know that daemon for mysql to make it run faster? is it dnj something? or djn? I forgot anyone know the mysql cache software liek that? thanks |
| 01:58.09 | enouf | man locate, install dlocate too |
| 01:58.21 | asg | cizzi: with any package, a quick look in /usr/share/doc/<pkg> will likely help as well |
| 01:58.30 | cizzi | allright |
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| 01:59.39 | enouf | sometimes the dir you want is /usr/share/<pkgname> |
| 02:00.05 | cizzi | :) |
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| 02:03.54 | hobophobe | I'm doing installgui install, and it wants to know my cdrom (didn't detect)... it's a SATA dvd drive, how can I load the appropriate module? It's a samsung sh-s203b drive. |
| 02:04.15 | hobophobe | err rather, what is the appropriate module |
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| 02:08.21 | hobophobe | Just try them all? |
| 02:09.04 | liable | the nocdrom problem is a pain in the arse, if there was a module that supported it, the installer would have used it |
| 02:09.16 | hobophobe | ah |
| 02:09.25 | liable | try booting with acpi off (worked for one person I know of) |
| 02:09.48 | hobophobe | can I do netinst, or does that still require finding the drive first? |
| 02:10.04 | liable | yeah, you need the drive working |
| 02:10.10 | hobophobe | bugger. |
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| 02:10.34 | hobophobe | thanks |
| 02:10.57 | liable | np |
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| 02:12.06 | cizzi | why would I need to run a script to create a CHROOTDIR when I want it to be their home dir |
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| 02:12.09 | cizzi | or is it not safe? |
| 02:13.24 | asg | cizzi: one they chroot, they don't have access to things outside (like /bin/ls and other utilities that aren't available via their shell) That script will likely setup such things. |
| 02:13.38 | jetscreamer | maybe there's an option to set a preexisting dir as that one |
| 02:13.53 | cizzi | well the config file is simple... username chrootdir |
| 02:14.02 | cizzi | but it lets my user roam around/ |
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| 02:14.12 | cizzi | but i didnt run their script |
| 02:14.22 | cizzi | now i read that i have to |
| 02:14.24 | cizzi | wondering why |
| 02:14.26 | hobophobe | liable, not sure if it was disabling ACPI or using 'compatibility' for the SATAs, but it now sees the optical drive :) |
| 02:14.35 | liable | hobophobe: yay ;) |
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| 02:24.31 | levander | I'm looking at running Windows with KVM on Linux. Only complication I've got is I've got a really big multimedia partition I want to share between the two. Would sharing the partition via Samba be really slow? Some people have told me to do that, but I can't imagine adding a Samba layer in between Windows and the hard disk is a good idea. |
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| 02:26.14 | cizzi | chroot not working.. do I have to insert this /lib/security/pam_chroot.so module somehow? |
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| 02:27.45 | heatman | can someone plz tell me how to set up static ip when using a wireless pci card on a etch desktop. I used "Network Settings", that can be found at Desktop > Administration > Networking. By changing the settigs with that application, it modifies my /etc/network/interfaces file and renders my wireless card not detectable. Is there a way to set a static ip using another application or by any other means? |
| 02:28.12 | axp-mobbing | heatman: man interfaces |
| 02:28.40 | kgoetz | then kill n-m |
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| 02:31.57 | KCYNICE | help: i had change my os from stable to testing,and excute apt-get update. But I had just changed back to stable.but i am not sure,how should i check my os is stable or testing,now? |
| 02:32.45 | kgoetz | why? |
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| 02:33.36 | KCYNICE | because,my x doesn't work well,now |
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| 02:33.47 | kgoetz | why did you change stable -> testing -> stable? |
| 02:34.12 | KCYNICE | i want to install miro before yesterday |
| 02:34.46 | S4nD3r | How to know if there is a user logged in my pc through internet ? |
| 02:34.51 | KCYNICE | but when i changed from stable to testing and installed miro,i found my x did not work well |
| 02:35.15 | kgoetz | S4nD3r: pardon? |
| 02:35.24 | kgoetz | KCYNICE: you idiot |
| 02:35.32 | S4nD3r | I think theres someone connected in my pc |
| 02:35.40 | S4nD3r | remotelly |
| 02:35.56 | kgoetz | S4nD3r: whys that? (use 'w' for a basic check, and 'last' and 'lastb') |
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| 02:36.14 | kgoetz | !tell KCYNICE about ssb |
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| 02:36.38 | heatman | axp-mobbing & kgoetz: http://pastebin.com/mc1127fb |
| 02:36.53 | kgoetz | !tell KCYNICE about pinning |
| 02:37.04 | S4nD3r | no |
| 02:37.08 | S4nD3r | here is online right now |
| 02:37.17 | S4nD3r | is ejecting my cdrom device |
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| 02:37.45 | kgoetz | S4nD3r: did you runthose commands? |
| 02:37.56 | kgoetz | and whats 'no' in responce to? |
| 02:38.11 | S4nD3r | yes |
| 02:38.20 | S4nD3r | i didnt see nothing different |
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| 02:38.33 | KCYNICE | if i minimized one window,all of the windows would be responseless |
| 02:38.40 | kgoetz | S4nD3r: pastebin the output of 'w' |
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| 02:38.55 | S4nD3r | pastebin? |
| 02:39.06 | kgoetz | !tell S4nD3r about pastebin |
| 02:39.32 | kgoetz | KCYNICE: past tence? has that changed? |
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| 02:39.59 | cizzi | i added "session required pam_chroot.so debug" entry to /etc/pam.d/login file but i dont think its being used |
| 02:40.14 | cizzi | it still shows pam_unix in /var/log/auth.log |
| 02:40.29 | kgoetz | cizzi: how did you log into the system? |
| 02:40.34 | cizzi | ssh |
| 02:40.35 | levander | Are we just supposed to use the Windows ext2 driver to access ext3 partitions from Windows? |
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| 02:40.50 | kgoetz | cizzi: then change the ssh pam file |
| 02:41.02 | cizzi | whats it called |
| 02:41.08 | kgoetz | ... ssh? |
| 02:41.24 | kgoetz | cizzi: /etc/pam.d/ssh - surely you can look at that for yourself? |
| 02:41.31 | cizzi | yeah |
| 02:41.48 | cizzi | so I should add it in there? |
| 02:41.53 | cizzi | the docs dont mention that |
| 02:41.57 | S4nD3r | http://pastebin.ca/859379 |
| 02:41.58 | KCYNICE | kgoetz:although i am a beginer,i would do my best to learn.Thanks.I hope my problem would go well by itself.Thanks all the same. |
| 02:42.05 | kgoetz | cizzi: what are you following? |
| 02:42.25 | kgoetz | KCYNICE: you have two options then: choose to run stable, or backup and reinstall |
| 02:42.29 | kgoetz | s/stable/testing |
| 02:42.29 | cizzi | kgoetz - /usr/share/doc/libpam-chroot/examples/README.example |
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| 02:42.56 | kgoetz | cizzi: do you have physical access to teh system? |
| 02:43.06 | cizzi | yes |
| 02:43.21 | kgoetz | cizzi: then try logging in frona console :) |
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| 02:43.24 | cizzi | allright |
| 02:43.35 | kgoetz | S4nD3r: what about 'last' and 'lastb'? |
| 02:43.36 | Genjuro | good night i have a question: what option is better? transparent proxy or normal proxy? |
| 02:43.36 | cizzi | ahh dont have the kvm yet |
| 02:43.39 | cizzi | i'll just try ssh |
| 02:43.58 | kgoetz | Genjuro: not-transparent != normal :) |
| 02:44.00 | Genjuro | do you have any ideia? |
| 02:44.06 | Genjuro | kgoetz ? |
| 02:44.08 | kgoetz | cizzi: remove the line from login first |
| 02:44.19 | cizzi | and put it in ssh |
| 02:44.19 | kgoetz | Genjuro: as for better - depends what you need the proxy to do |
| 02:44.23 | kgoetz | cizzi: yes |
| 02:44.26 | cizzi | ok |
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| 02:44.43 | S4nD3r | http://pastebin.ca/859380 - lastb |
| 02:44.54 | Genjuro | kgoetz i have a wireless server provider here in brazil... it's small now over 50 users |
| 02:45.13 | cizzi | should I restart sshd |
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| 02:45.30 | kgoetz | cizzi: not sure, i dont think you have to |
| 02:45.33 | cizzi | its a module |
| 02:45.35 | cizzi | so my guess is no |
| 02:45.58 | kgoetz | Genjuro: er... i'm not sure whats goin on :) |
| 02:45.59 | kgoetz | !br |
| 02:45.59 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:46.06 | kgoetz | Genjuro: ^^ |
| 02:46.35 | S4nD3r | http://pastebin.ca/859384 |
| 02:46.35 | S4nD3r | last -20 |
| 02:46.48 | Genjuro | kgoetz huh? |
| 02:47.09 | kgoetz | S4nD3r: do any of those look suspecious? |
| 02:47.57 | kgoetz | Genjuro: if it would be easier, as #debian-br |
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| 02:48.14 | Genjuro | kgoetz aa |
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| 02:49.48 | cizzi | kgoetz - getting there.. but as soon as i login it logs me out after entering the password but now I have info in the auth.log file |
| 02:49.56 | cizzi | maybe it still needs to be in the login file |
| 02:50.11 | cizzi | last message i get in the log file is Jan 17 21:47:38 silver1 pam_chroot[4059]: session: preparing to chroot() |
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| 02:51.23 | kgoetz | cizzi: sounds like somethings misconfigured |
| 02:51.32 | cizzi | yeah |
| 02:51.46 | kgoetz | afk. lunch |
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| 03:07.58 | S4nD3r_ | I was using wget -c ftp://beablue.selfip.net/ParallelKnoppix/download/parallelknoppix-2.7.1.iso but, in 50% the conection down |
| 03:08.05 | S4nD3r_ | now, do not restart download |
| 03:08.33 | S4nD3r_ | I will lost the downloaded part? |
| 03:09.17 | abrotman | not all ftp servers support resume |
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| 03:13.10 | jetscreamer | wget -c is resume |
| 03:13.17 | jetscreamer | just do the same command |
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| 03:16.38 | cizzi | when my user logs in the chroot it logs the user out after the password is entered |
| 03:16.42 | cizzi | what should I look at |
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| 03:16.55 | cizzi | log file doesnt give as reason, just says "setting up chroot() dir" |
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| 03:25.25 | itchi | In the man 7 regex there's noted "SEE ALSO \n regex(3)" But that man 3 regex don't exist :-( |
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| 03:26.19 | itchi | These been mean man 3 regex ? Right? I'm so tired :-p |
| 03:26.36 | abrotman | !find regex.3.gz etch |
| 03:26.43 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'regex.3.gz' (5): (/usr/share/man/man3/regex.3.gz) in doc/manpages-dev ;; (/usr/share/man/es/man3/regex.3.gz) in doc/manpages-es ;; (/usr/share/man/pt/man3/regex.3.gz) in doc/manpages-pt-dev ;; (/usr/share/man/ja/man3/regex.3.gz) in doc/manpages-ja-dev ;; (/usr/share/man/fr/man3/regex.3.gz) in doc/manpages-fr-dev. |
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| 03:26.52 | itchi | Well, yeah, gona report it tommor, i'm so tired :-) |
| 03:27.03 | abrotman | it's not a bug |
| 03:27.13 | abrotman | it's in manpages-dev |
| 03:27.23 | itchi | abrotman: Ah ok |
| 03:27.47 | itchi | abrotman: Seems not to be installed here |
| 03:27.52 | abrotman | itchi: manpages can reference anything they like .. including info pages .. apt-file <manpage>.<section>.gz |
| 03:27.57 | abrotman | erm .. apt-file search |
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| 03:28.11 | itchi | abrotman: Did dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man7/regex.7.gz |
| 03:28.23 | abrotman | no . you're looking for man 3 regex |
| 03:28.29 | abrotman | so .. that'd be regex.3.gz |
| 03:28.44 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, but 3 was missing :-) |
| 03:28.53 | abrotman | because you don't have manpages-dev installed |
| 03:29.00 | itchi | abrotman: Now yes :-p |
| 03:29.17 | itchi | Bah, why is that not installed heh |
| 03:29.24 | itchi | I mean default |
| 03:29.29 | abrotman | it's not a default install |
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| 03:30.24 | xuser | !find libipt_loga.so etch |
| 03:30.31 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libipt_loga.so' returned no results. |
| 03:30.46 | hobophobe | on netinst, I selected my packages and it went to work...downloaded through them all, and now it's just stuck saying "Retrieving file 681 of 681," ought I reboot? |
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| 03:31.30 | xuser | how long have you wait? |
| 03:31.43 | abrotman | itchi: does that make sense ? |
| 03:32.06 | hobophobe | xuser it's been at least seven minutes or so. |
| 03:33.03 | itchi | abrotman: What do you mean "it's not a default install"? |
| 03:33.26 | abrotman | manpages-dev isn't needed by everyone .. no reason to make it a base package |
| 03:34.10 | itchi | abrotman: Well, if there's some references in the base manpages to other ones, yes |
| 03:34.31 | abrotman | itchi: there are tons of references in manpages to other man pages |
| 03:34.39 | abrotman | some may be installed .. others' not |
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| 03:35.24 | itchi | abrotman: Bah, i not care, now i know ;-) Thanks to you |
| 03:35.38 | abrotman | ok |
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| 03:36.46 | distatica | Is anyone experiencing slow speeds (and hangups) with http.us.debian.org for apt? I tried doing update on two different machines now, and 20 minutes later 17% on one machine, 50% on the other machine. I can't tell if it's my network, but everything else seems to be running fast. |
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| 03:37.33 | hobophobe | distatica, I'm currently doing netinstall and us debian wouldn't work for me, I went to the kernel.org mirror instead. |
| 03:37.52 | distatica | hobophobe: nice, doing the same thing. thanks. |
| 03:37.59 | abrotman | distatica: i find i have much better luck with tertiary mirrors |
| 03:38.42 | distatica | hobophobe: do you have the domain handy? I mean what I enter in place of http.us.debian.org |
| 03:38.48 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 03:38.48 | dpkg | debian mirrors is probably http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 03:38.57 | distatica | thanks |
| 03:39.00 | abrotman | distatica: what's your location ? |
| 03:39.06 | distatica | canada |
| 03:39.09 | distatica | west coast |
| 03:39.29 | abrotman | there is probably 10 .ca mirrors .. |
| 03:40.07 | distatica | there we go, thank god |
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| 03:46.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | cizzi: might have no shell or something like that... or no home directory... or.... well, these are the most likely, but in a chrooted environmet everything might be missing - some can prevent login... |
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| 03:46.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | even worse with X... I think a full disk can prevent X login.. |
| 03:46.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | fun, fun, fun |
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| 03:48.47 | cizzi | setting up a chroot jail is more work than i thought |
| 03:48.49 | cizzi | gonna have to read more |
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| 03:51.20 | mxldr | how do i get dvd's to play? |
| 03:51.24 | mxldr | hello? |
| 03:51.33 | mxldr | !dvd |
| 03:51.33 | dpkg | i guess dvd is use <xine> (xine-ui for X11 or kaffeine for KDE), <vlc> or <ogle> (or okle for KDE, supposed to be inferior to kaffeine) to play video DVDs, or ask me about <decss>, or ask me about <libdvdcss>, or to burn a DVD check <wodim> or <growisofs>. see <dvd playback troubleshooting> |
| 03:51.59 | mxldr | !libdvdcss |
| 03:51.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, libdvdcss is NOT in Debian - USA residents who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. For filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian and ask about <marillat> or <debian-unofficial> |
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| 03:54.13 | drwahl | i was tryin to test out kde4.0 (and would still like to) and it seemed to break my gui. i used the instructions from http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html . the last step i did was "sudo aptitude -t experimental install kdebase-workspace kdebase" and now when i try to run kde4, i login (with kdm) and it begins to start, but crashes half way through with "kdeinit4 not found". |
| 03:54.43 | abrotman | !kde4 |
| 03:54.43 | dpkg | it has been said that kde4 is a new and not-yet-complete version of the KDE desktop. It will not be released with Lenny as it is not expected to be stable within the lenny release cycle. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/01/msg00001.html, or see also http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html but ask about these experimental packages in #debian-kde not in #debian. see <kde4 videos> |
| 03:54.52 | drwahl | is there a way to solve this without reinstalling my whole system? even just removing and installing kde3 would work |
| 03:55.01 | danf_1979 | drwahl: #debian-kde |
| 03:55.50 | drwahl | cool, i will check there, thanks |
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| 03:56.42 | gades | hello everybody |
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| 03:59.54 | endra | hey |
| 04:00.12 | endra | I want a simple ftp server for personal use on my debian dedicated machine, what do you recommend? |
| 04:00.20 | Chris55 | I installed a netinstall of debian 4 and i'd like to install bind whats the fastest way to get it? |
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| 04:01.07 | kgoetz | Chris55: through apt |
| 04:01.15 | \amethyst | Chris55: apt-get install bind9 |
| 04:01.28 | abrotman | aptitude! |
| 04:01.33 | \amethyst | or aptitude, yes :) |
| 04:01.42 | kgoetz | dpkg+wget! |
| 04:01.48 | Chris55 | didnt work :( |
| 04:01.55 | raz | hm, how do i find a sponsor for a small utility (simple perl script) that i'm just packaging up? i'd like to submit it to debian but becoming a full blown maintainer for one package doesn't seem to be worth it :) |
| 04:01.57 | Chris55 | do i need to specify where to find the files or something? |
| 04:02.02 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 04:02.02 | dpkg | well, mentors is Please /msg dpkg mg and/or try http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ and/or try #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, or http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 04:02.06 | \amethyst | Chris55: what's the error? |
| 04:02.13 | Chris55 | raz: source forge |
| 04:02.16 | raz | abrotman, ah thx |
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| 04:02.24 | Chris55 | Reading package lists... Done |
| 04:02.24 | Chris55 | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 04:02.24 | Chris55 | E: Couldn't find package bind9 |
| 04:02.35 | \amethyst | !bat |
| 04:02.36 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run; the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages. Use http://channels.debian.net/paste or #flood to provide us with this information. |
| 04:02.49 | \amethyst | Chris55: can you pastebin your sources.list ? |
| 04:02.50 | Feral_Kid | I just upgraded to the latest version of Etch, and after a long upgrade, it looks to be working except for one small issue. I boot and get to the login window, but no matter which WM that I use, it goes to the process of starting and then drops me back to the login window... Any suggestions? |
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| 04:03.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | Feral_Kid: check if you disk is full |
| 04:04.26 | abrotman | and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. and ~/.xsession-errors |
| 04:04.33 | Chris55 | \amethyst: http://www.pastebin.ca/859461 |
| 04:04.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman: but if the disk is full, .xsession-errors wouldn't contain a lot :) |
| 04:05.13 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: you assume /home/ is full |
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| 04:05.29 | \amethyst | Chris55: that's your problem... you don't have any sources other than the CD |
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| 04:05.35 | Chris55 | oh |
| 04:05.39 | Chris55 | how do I add sources? |
| 04:05.39 | Feral_Kid | CutMeOwnThroat: No, I have have about 4G available... |
| 04:05.46 | \amethyst | !sources.list |
| 04:05.46 | dpkg | Your /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "apt-get update" after editing sources.list in order to refresh your database. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <etch security> <testing security> and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 04:05.59 | \amethyst | Chris55: ^^^ |
| 04:06.14 | webPragmatist | where can i get a serial number for debian? |
| 04:06.24 | enouf | Feral_Kid: use a DM? (g|kxdm) |
| 04:06.25 | webPragmatist | bleh |
| 04:06.26 | \amethyst | webPragmatist: |
| 04:06.39 | \amethyst | webPragmatist: `uuid` |
| 04:06.42 | \amethyst | or `uuidgen` |
| 04:06.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | Feral_Kid: ok... if /home is full, ~/.Xauthority can't be created and login fails :) |
| 04:06.44 | \amethyst | :P |
| 04:06.49 | enouf | Feral_Kid: er {g|k|xdm} ? got a ~/.xinitrc? |
| 04:07.08 | kgoetz | \amethyst: i usually use cat /dev/urandom |
| 04:07.19 | webPragmatist | dog ? |
| 04:07.26 | enouf | webPragmatist: which serial number? |
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| 04:07.49 | abrotman | webPragmatist: go play somewhere else |
| 04:07.50 | webPragmatist | was being sarcastic someone was talking about warez (where my scroll thing was) |
| 04:07.55 | webPragmatist | abrotman: oh behave |
| 04:08.02 | enouf | meh |
| 04:08.17 | abrotman | i am |
| 04:08.18 | Feral_Kid | CutMeOwnThroat: No .xinitrc |
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| 04:08.39 | enouf | i asked, but ok |
| 04:08.41 | Timo^ | Morning guys |
| 04:09.01 | Timo^ | anyone that can help me with samba config(compiled from latest tarbar) ? |
| 04:09.07 | enouf | Feral_Kid: using GNOME and gdm? |
| 04:09.17 | Timo^ | tarbal* |
| 04:09.17 | HennaX | where could i start looking for the source of the problem, that my volume control goes back to defaults after a reboot? |
| 04:09.17 | enouf | trying various WMs through gdm? |
| 04:09.40 | enouf | HennaX: are you using KDE? |
| 04:09.45 | Timo^ | #samba isn't responding. :( |
| 04:09.47 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base |
| 04:09.48 | enouf | HennaX: how about alsamixer? |
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| 04:10.12 | Feral_Kid | enouf: I have tried both gnome and kde |
| 04:10.24 | HennaX | enouf: using Gnome |
| 04:11.00 | HennaX | alsa-tools and alsa-utils are installed, the driver is compiled into the kernel |
| 04:11.03 | hark | HennaX: install alsa-utils |
| 04:11.11 | enouf | well, dpkg-reconfigure kdm{gdm|xdm} .. but i suppose your /etc/init.d/SNN{g,k,x}dm might be getting in the way |
| 04:11.13 | Timo^ | anyone knows where i can find the config files when compiled from source ? |
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| 04:11.33 | enouf | HennaX: run alsamixer, set volumes and exit |
| 04:12.06 | Feral_Kid | Although looking at .xsessions-errors, the first line says /etc/X11/Xsession.d/45xsession: line 344: /etc/sysconfig/xsession-commands: Permision denied |
| 04:12.23 | enouf | HennaX: install alsa-oss |
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| 04:13.01 | enouf | sysconfig? er |
| 04:13.08 | HennaX | enouf: both done now. should that have done the trick? |
| 04:13.40 | enouf | HennaX: unfortunately, i'm not as familiar with gnome, but perhaps yes, have you ever run alsaconf? and what abrotman suggested? |
| 04:14.02 | abrotman | dont' blame me! |
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| 04:14.22 | vinc345 | my server shut down unexpectedly while i was away at school, is there a log that will show the time and reason of shutdown? |
| 04:14.23 | HennaX | enouf: yeah but alsaconf acts all weird since i have the driver compiled into the kernel |
| 04:14.32 | enouf | HennaX: if you open alsamixer again, are the settings the same? if not, run alsactl --store |
| 04:14.38 | enouf | eww |
| 04:14.43 | enouf | :-P |
| 04:15.33 | HennaX | now for some interesting reason i did not even have linux-sound-base installed, doing that now |
| 04:15.37 | hobophobe | vinc345, probably something like /var/log/* where * is maybe syslog or dmesg or kern .log ... but if it was power failure, maybe not? |
| 04:15.46 | vinc345 | i think it might have been a power surge but i'm not sure |
| 04:15.49 | enouf | HennaX: if you have issues still look up info about how esd can mess you up (and gnome system bootup settings) |
| 04:15.52 | Timo^ | anyone ? |
| 04:16.05 | HennaX | ok, thanks a lot so far guys |
| 04:16.10 | Timo^ | am trying to fix samba on the debian pc. |
| 04:16.39 | Timo^ | try to build a CoD4 server for it must copy /main contents to the server |
| 04:16.46 | hark | HennaX: the alsa-utils init script is responsible for storing and restoring your mixer levels. |
| 04:17.15 | hobophobe | Maybe this helps Timo? http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/examples/smb.conf |
| 04:17.30 | hark | HennaX: install it |
| 04:17.56 | enouf | hark: ahh /etc/init.d/alsa-utils ? |
| 04:18.42 | hark | enouf: yeah, does the alsactl store/restore thing |
| 04:18.59 | enouf | hark: righto, i see it in there now, thanks |
| 04:19.00 | Timo^ | hobophobe : yes thats the default smb.conf but i want to know where my confs are stored normaly when i compiled it from source |
| 04:19.06 | Timo^ | i know how the smb.conf looks like |
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| 04:19.47 | Timo^ | when i locate them it only directs me to /home/user/ and /usr/share/doc/ |
| 04:20.19 | \amethyst | Timo^: you want to know where the Debian package puts the configs, or where they go when you do make install from the source? |
| 04:20.27 | cizzi | yes! i got chroot jail to work woohoo |
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| 04:22.43 | Timo^ | \amethyst : where they are stored when installed from source |
| 04:22.50 | HennaX | thanks a lot hark and enouf, cant test reboot at the moment but should have enough information now to take it further :) |
| 04:22.56 | \amethyst | Timo^: try #samba---that's not a Debian question |
| 04:23.03 | hobophobe | Timo, some redhat samba doc says they have to change the init script for samba in that case not to look at /etc/smb.conf and instead to look at /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf, YMMV? |
| 04:23.08 | cizzi | \amethyst - i hate my daytime job, i hope someday i can get a linux admin job :) |
| 04:23.10 | \amethyst | Timo^: in the future, you might consider using "checkinstall" when you are compiling from source |
| 04:23.25 | Timo^ | \amethyst : #samba isn't responding think everyone is sleeping there :/ |
| 04:23.41 | \amethyst | Timo^: read the makefile maybe? |
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| 04:23.43 | Timo^ | \amethyst i did that |
| 04:24.07 | \amethyst | Timo^: try find /usr/local -name smb.conf then? |
| 04:24.24 | cizzi | Timo^ - whats the problem? |
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| 04:25.12 | dbmoodb | hi ah i got a weird problem, i cannot nmap but i can ping |
| 04:25.14 | dbmoodb | ... |
| 04:25.19 | dbmoodb | - a host |
| 04:25.23 | dbmoodb | on my lan |
| 04:25.34 | cizzi | dbmoodb - did you try with the - options? |
| 04:25.39 | Timo^ | cizzi : i want to fix my samba server but don't know where i can't find the smb.conf when installed from source. |
| 04:25.47 | Timo^ | am running debian* |
| 04:26.01 | cizzi | Timo^ - first do "updatedb" as root |
| 04:26.07 | Timo^ | i know |
| 04:26.09 | cizzi | Timo^ - then "locate smb.conf" |
| 04:26.10 | Timo^ | and |
| 04:26.16 | Timo^ | yes |
| 04:26.20 | cizzi | what does it say |
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| 04:26.37 | kgoetz | !tell Timo^ about enter |
| 04:27.12 | Timo^ | it found 2 smb.confs and alot of default confs. from directions like /usr/share/ and /home/user/samba***/ |
| 04:27.16 | cizzi | the default path is /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 04:27.17 | dbmoodb | ? |
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| 04:27.24 | cizzi | i has to be in there |
| 04:27.37 | ErikRose | Is there any policy that apache module packages have to have "mod" in their names, as in libapache2-mod-auth-kerb? (I'm packaging CoSign.) |
| 04:27.50 | Timo^ | directory /etc/samba does not exists |
| 04:27.52 | ErikRose | Many do, some don't. |
| 04:28.04 | cizzi | timo - did you install it with apt-get install... ? |
| 04:28.10 | kgoetz | !tell ErikRose about debian policy |
| 04:28.12 | Timo^ | no |
| 04:28.14 | dbmoodb | ok this is too weird |
| 04:28.16 | cizzi | thats why then |
| 04:28.33 | cizzi | you downloaded the .gz or something? |
| 04:28.39 | kgoetz | Timo^: so you installed samba from source? |
| 04:28.57 | Timo^ | yes. i know but i thaugt i want to use the latest version it is stable though. |
| 04:28.58 | ErikRose | Thanks; I know about the policy manual. It ain't in there. |
| 04:28.59 | cizzi | kgoetz - hey how was your lunch? i got chroot to work |
| 04:29.11 | Timo^ | cizzi : yes. i did |
| 04:29.24 | kgoetz | cizzi: well done |
| 04:29.30 | kgoetz | Timo^: perhaps ask #samba |
| 04:29.33 | Timo^ | did followd this howto : http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/compiling.html |
| 04:29.34 | cizzi | timo - i recommened installing it with apt-get |
| 04:29.48 | kgoetz | ErikRose: hm. tried asking #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org? |
| 04:29.49 | Timo^ | hmm.. |
| 04:30.01 | ErikRose | kgoetz: That's an excellent idea. Thanks! |
| 04:30.06 | cizzi | kgoetz - i removed the package you recommended because i was getting weird errors I couldnt' debug, and i found a script that works very well |
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| 04:30.25 | daya | while running sound app.** WARNING **: alsa_setup_mixer(): Failed to find mixer element: PCM |
| 04:30.41 | Timo^ | why are you recommend that cizzi ? |
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| 04:30.51 | kgoetz | ErikRose: np. gl |
| 04:30.53 | ErikRose | thx |
| 04:30.54 | daya | how to get solved this error |
| 04:30.56 | cizzi | Timo^ - well apt-get packages are made for debian |
| 04:30.56 | dbmoodb | ooo ah i really have a problem here |
| 04:31.02 | kgoetz | cizzi: which package? |
| 04:31.14 | cizzi | kgoetz - none, jsut a script some guy made |
| 04:31.19 | cizzi | kgoetz - want the link? u can view the source if you like |
| 04:31.23 | kgoetz | cizzi: which did you remove |
| 04:31.35 | enouf | daya: is snd_mixer_oss and snd_pcm_oss in lsmod? |
| 04:31.35 | cizzi | kgoetz - ummm what was it libpam-chroot |
| 04:31.38 | Timo^ | http://pastebin.ca/859478 |
| 04:31.49 | Timo^ | thats what he finds with apt-cache search |
| 04:32.04 | Timo^ | which version should be installed when i install it from apt-get sources |
| 04:32.17 | kgoetz | cizzi: i think somoene else told you about that ;) |
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| 04:32.32 | enouf | yes, i recall who too O.o |
| 04:32.35 | Timo^ | and : can it be fixed only by the compiled from source version ? |
| 04:32.37 | cizzi | kgoetz - its possible.. lol long day :) |
| 04:32.49 | kgoetz | :) |
| 04:33.03 | daya | enouf, yes I have got it, |
| 04:33.03 | dbmoodb | ok ah guys i can nmap everything on the net |
| 04:33.15 | dbmoodb | but not my my other hosts on my local network |
| 04:33.20 | enouf | daya: which sound app? |
| 04:33.27 | cizzi | dbmoodb what error u getting? |
| 04:33.31 | dbmoodb | i'm not |
| 04:33.38 | cizzi | what does it say then |
| 04:33.39 | dbmoodb | i can ping them, can't nmap them |
| 04:33.41 | daya | enouf, I have used pulseaudio, But the sound get redirected in mic, instead of audio port |
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| 04:33.45 | kgoetz | dbmoodb: what version of debian? ( /exec -o lsb_release -c ) |
| 04:33.50 | dbmoodb | it doesn't just says they are down or blocking pings, but i can ping them |
| 04:33.54 | dbmoodb | and i oculd nmap them before |
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| 04:34.07 | enouf | daya: is alsa-utils, alsa-tools, alsa-oss installed? |
| 04:34.07 | Timo^ | kgoetz : #samba isn't responding :( |
| 04:34.21 | dbmoodb | how do i run that mm ? /exec -o lsb_release -c ? |
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| 04:34.26 | screamingbytes | evenin all |
| 04:34.28 | enouf | daya: are you playing with phones? |
| 04:34.28 | kgoetz | Timo^: :( you might have to wait a while |
| 04:34.35 | kgoetz | dbmoodb: run it in your irc client |
| 04:34.40 | Timo^ | ok. |
| 04:34.40 | dbmoodb | .... |
| 04:34.44 | dbmoodb | ah no |
| 04:34.51 | dbmoodb | i'm experiencing the problem on another computer |
| 04:35.06 | Timo^ | you guys are not experienced with samba config from source ? |
| 04:35.13 | screamingbytes | anyone know of any free 3d modeling software in deb packages they can recommend |
| 04:35.19 | daya | enouf, xmms and totem |
| 04:35.29 | Timo^ | apt-get is to easy though and i want to try some new feature like websharing and stuff |
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| 04:36.00 | kgoetz | screamingbytes: blender |
| 04:36.18 | daya | enouf, phones no , just some sound media files, |
| 04:36.26 | screamingbytes | prob the #samba chan would better serve u Timo^, i came into the middle of your convo so im sorry if im wrong |
| 04:36.31 | enouf | daya: maybe firefox plugin or some other app has locked your mixer? |
| 04:36.35 | dbmoodb | it debian etch ish if you want to know what debian |
| 04:36.36 | screamingbytes | kgoetz: ty |
| 04:36.38 | enouf | daya: like esd? |
| 04:36.51 | kgoetz | dbmoodb: aka ubuntu? |
| 04:36.56 | Timo^ | okay guys this is my output from locate smb.conf : http://pastebin.ca/859482 |
| 04:36.57 | enouf | daya: as root, lsof | egrep 'esd|arts' |
| 04:36.58 | dbmoodb | ? |
| 04:37.02 | dbmoodb | kgoetz |
| 04:37.04 | Timo^ | should there be more? |
| 04:37.10 | daya | enouf, How can i know it, |
| 04:37.20 | dbmoodb | what do you want me to prove ? |
| 04:37.34 | dbmoodb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.34 | dbmoodb | 4.0 |
| 04:37.42 | enouf | daya: as root, lsof | egrep 'esd|artsd|firefox' ? (or does it say iceweasel, or SWF poop) |
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| 04:38.00 | kgoetz | Timo^: is that where you installed it? |
| 04:38.14 | hobophobe | My install is frozen installing 'libicu36.' How do I tell it to try again or stop and I can fix it later, etc. ? |
| 04:38.23 | enouf | daya: any WAV files? try "aplay filename.wav" |
| 04:39.02 | Timo^ | i installed it from /home/user/samba*/ |
| 04:39.06 | Timo^ | etc. |
| 04:39.19 | screamingbytes | Timo^: not necessarily, my output from slocate smb.conf is 5 lins long, and i have a fully blown and configured smb server |
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| 04:39.36 | daya | enouf, it shows a lot |
| 04:40.08 | enouf | daya: well, start killing stuff (or close the app), use ps aux to get PID |
| 04:40.17 | dbmoodb | so no one can tell me ? |
| 04:40.41 | kgoetz | dbmoodb: my guess is that its iptables/ a router. |
| 04:40.48 | dbmoodb | eh |
| 04:40.53 | dbmoodb | ok |
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| 04:41.40 | dbmoodb | funny cuz iptables doesn't run on it |
| 04:41.48 | daya | enouf, http://pastebin.com/m731452ea |
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| 04:45.25 | aldo | spam irc.rizon.net with server address irc.hydroblunt.net |
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| 04:46.50 | enouf | daya: ok, i'm afk for ~15 mins |
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| 04:47.29 | daya | enouf, ok |
| 04:47.57 | rinite | I would like to install debian on my computer, its a pentium Dual Core and im not sure in what architecture it fits in. What version of Debian should i download? |
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| 04:48.31 | kgoetz | rinite: a core 2 duo? amd64 |
| 04:48.33 | jkitchen | aldo: no thanks. |
| 04:48.44 | drwahl | i tried installing kde4, but it failed on a package, now whenever i try to install anything (i.e. firefox, icedove, pidgin, etc.) apt gives me an error about "can't install kwrite, try apt-get -f install" so i try apt-get -f install, and the loop continues |
| 04:48.56 | drwahl | can i tell it not to install kwrite some how? |
| 04:48.57 | rinite | kgoetz its dual core. it has a virtual processor, while core 2 duo has a physicall one. |
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| 04:49.17 | rinite | kgoetz the second one, i mean. |
| 04:49.24 | ampex | hmmm, centos or debian, what should I install on my colo? |
| 04:49.49 | kgoetz | rinite: so whats the cpu actually? |
| 04:49.52 | \amethyst | rinite: Do you want 64-bit or 32-bit? |
| 04:50.12 | rinite | \amethyst: 32 bit |
| 04:50.19 | \amethyst | rinite: then you want the i386 architecture |
| 04:50.27 | \amethyst | rinite: probably with the -686 kernel |
| 04:50.44 | \amethyst | maybe with the -amd64 kernel if you want a 64-bit kernel with a 32-bit userspace |
| 04:50.56 | rinite | \amethyst: hmm, thanks |
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| 04:51.26 | \amethyst | rinite: the -686, -k7, and -amd64 kernels all support SMP. -486 does not |
| 04:51.40 | ampex | what, no 486 smp? |
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| 04:51.54 | Timo^ | screamingbytes : did you installed it from apt-get ? |
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| 04:53.57 | cizzi | how do I find out what other files /usr/bin/ftp needs to run? |
| 04:54.21 | screamingbytes | Timo^: no from source |
| 04:54.25 | \amethyst | cizzi: for the libraries, try ldd /usr/bin/ftp |
| 04:54.26 | cizzi | if I want to run ftp in a chroot |
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| 04:54.33 | cizzi | \amethyst - ty |
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| 04:54.47 | \amethyst | cizzi: to find out if it needs data files, try running it and see if it complains :) |
| 04:54.55 | cizzi | \amethyst - i did |
| 04:55.01 | cizzi | and it did complain |
| 04:55.07 | cizzi | thats why im trying to find out what it needs |
| 04:55.07 | rinite | \amethyst: im not sure which one of the torrent images of debian.org i should download. all of them? |
| 04:55.12 | screamingbytes | Timo^: its on a scratch built server, my Mdk box has roughly the same which was from rpm |
| 04:55.22 | \amethyst | rinite: what page are you looking at right now? |
| 04:55.37 | rinite | \amethyst: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 04:55.46 | kb3llm_server | i want to install linux on my old PPC Mac Mini, and dual boot with a smaller os x partition.. But i dont know exactly what i need to do. On debian.org it said partition and install os x first. What should the linux partiton be formated as? Free Space? (I'm in the disc utility right now on the install dvd) |
| 04:55.56 | screamingbytes | Timo^: and my deb box here had 4 lines output from slocate smb.conf and i installed it from synaptic, which is kinda apt-get |
| 04:56.38 | hobophobe | kb3llm_server, easiest way is to leave the space for linux free, but either way as long as you can recognize it when you go to install debian it'll be fine. |
| 04:56.52 | kb3llm_server | and after i partition and install debian, how do i dual boot? Will it install grub automatically? or what? |
| 04:57.01 | kb3llm_server | basically i want to be sure this will work out, before i do it. |
| 04:57.24 | hobophobe | Yes, exactly. Ggrub should see the OS X installed and add that as an option to its menu. |
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| 04:57.49 | kb3llm_server | ok, I will proceed then. Prolly install Linux tomorrow and let Leopard reinstall over night. |
| 04:57.53 | kb3llm_server | lol |
| 04:58.20 | Olgem | I'm trying to backport ntfs-3g, but it depends on fuse-utils and libfuse2, but those two conflict with each other. Installing one will force the other one to be removed, so I can't install ntfs-3g. How do I deal with this circular dependency problem, if thats the correct term? |
| 04:58.24 | hobophobe | My mistake installing Leopard on my parents' computer was letting it check the disk integrity. Pretty sure that took longer than the actual install. |
| 04:59.16 | kb3llm_server | hobophobe: you mean when it checks the dvd? |
| 04:59.24 | hobophobe | Yeah |
| 04:59.33 | kb3llm_server | k - i'll skip that |
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| 05:00.57 | enouf | daya: hiya, can you pastebin output of cat /proc/asound/pcm , dpkg -l alsa* | grep ^.i and ls /etc/init.d/alsa* |
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| 05:01.23 | daya | enouf, sure |
| 05:03.42 | daya | enouf, http://pastebin.com/m226bf74c |
| 05:04.11 | daya | enouf, really confused I have sound in mic port, |
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| 05:05.07 | enouf | heh |
| 05:05.24 | enouf | daya: you closed an app likelym or it timed out |
| 05:05.29 | daya | enouf, my /etc/asound.conf content http://pastebin.com/md8e2b1b |
| 05:05.42 | enouf | daya: i suspect gnome's libesd getting in the way |
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| 05:06.12 | daya | enouf, no I have not closed likelym, I even don't know about it, |
| 05:06.50 | daya | enouf, libesd, |
| 05:07.02 | enouf | install alsa-oss , alsa-tools (and if you like alsaplayer-alsa, alsaplayer-common, etc .. "apt-cache search --names-only alsa" to see all choices) |
| 05:07.27 | enouf | daya: i said ; you likely closed an app |
| 05:07.35 | enouf | er meant |
| 05:07.54 | daya | enouf, oh, enouf I am trying to use pulseaudio |
| 05:08.00 | daya | enouf, over alsa |
| 05:08.06 | enouf | do the lsof again, and compare the diff - pastebin it |
| 05:08.41 | enouf | daya: i have no idea about that - all i know is alsa uses dmix/dsnoop to do software mixing, etc |
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| 05:09.46 | enouf | if you look at the big long line 4 in your lsof pastebin you'll see all the fnome related sound-mixer sound-volume and such |
| 05:09.54 | enouf | s/fnome/gnome |
| 05:10.44 | enouf | examples --> /usr/lib/libesd.so.0.2.36mixer_app /usr/lib/libesd.so.0.2.36gnome-vol somecrap about vinno, lol |
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| 05:12.04 | olczyk | Ok stupid question, can etch talk to mp3 players? |
| 05:13.11 | \amethyst | olczyk: that would depend on the mp3 player, but usually yes |
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| 05:14.07 | olczyk | One that uses USB 2.0. The one I was thinking of is a SanDisk Sansa Clip. |
| 05:15.03 | drwahl | i have a dual monitor setup. is there anyway to get my console to stretch across both screens? |
| 05:15.11 | enouf | daya: what i would try is "pkill -2 esd" , then -15, then -9, in that order, if the formers don't work (but you might not need to do that - try if you can't do anything else) |
| 05:15.20 | daya | enouf, Ok I can't solve it, don't know whats wrong |
| 05:15.20 | drwahl | i would assume it would be a kernel option at boot time |
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| 05:16.25 | grendal_prime | how in regex do you tell it to start searching on a specific line? |
| 05:17.11 | jkitchen | grendal_prime: like with grep? or? |
| 05:17.16 | drwahl | i'm not really getting any answers in debian-kde about this, so maybe some one here can answer. does kde4 depend on kde3 being installed? |
| 05:17.49 | netdaemon | no |
| 05:17.56 | drwahl | thanks |
| 05:17.57 | enouf | daya: did you install the apps i asked? |
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| 05:18.07 | enouf | daya: erm, atleast alsa-tools |
| 05:18.19 | enouf | daya: and alsa-oss |
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| 05:19.20 | grendal_prime | jkitchen: im writing somethin in python...and i need to parse some text out, the text i need to look through always starts out on the same line number. 4 lines down |
| 05:19.45 | grendal_prime | its well its to monitor openvpn-status.log |
| 05:19.46 | sneex | heh |
| 05:20.15 | jkitchen | grendal_prime: regex can't do what you want. |
| 05:20.25 | grendal_prime | well fuk |
| 05:20.33 | jkitchen | well, I guess it *could* maybe, if you have the entire file in a single string |
| 05:20.35 | grendal_prime | oops did i type that... |
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| 05:20.58 | grendal_prime | jkitchen: i do...i already have that part worked out |
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| 05:21.02 | jkitchen | you just say like: "(.*\n){3}yourpatternhere" |
| 05:21.09 | dserban_ | either aptitude is messed up or no one likes to report bugs. gnome-splashscreen-manager: Depends: ruby (< 1.9) but 4.1 is to be installed. and ... gnome-art: Depends: ruby (< 1.9) but 4.1 is to be installed |
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| 05:22.41 | Olgem | BzFlag segfaults, is there any way to find out why? Debian Etch x86_i386. I was told to file a debian bug report but I'm not sure if its the package's problem because I compiled from source targetting my arch(i586) and it still segfaulted. :( |
| 05:24.04 | grendal_prime | ya that didnt work |
| 05:24.26 | grendal_prime | it matched everything down to and then more so of what i wanted. |
| 05:24.52 | daya | enouf, yes, I install alsa-tools and alsa-oss |
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| 05:28.09 | ShiftOnYou | hi all |
| 05:28.09 | kennae | Is it possible to set solid color wallpaper without gnome/KDE/XFCE? |
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| 05:28.26 | ShiftOnYou | can some 1 tell me how i configure wlan for debian? i can connect to a network and use it but i cant set it up, that it stars and connects on boot... (i use madwifi) |
| 05:28.26 | hoxu | kennae, yes |
| 05:28.30 | Olgem | kennae: xsetroot -solid color |
| 05:28.34 | kennae | Ah, thanks |
| 05:28.53 | enouf | daya: still no joy? read their man pages |
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| 05:29.20 | enouf | daya: try the pkill i suggested, then run lsof to check |
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| 05:30.20 | daya | enouf, ok thanks for your help |
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| 05:30.45 | daya | enouf, I will see it since pulseaudio doensn't get started |
| 05:30.45 | daya | enouf, I will reboot it, |
| 05:30.45 | daya | enouf, ok |
| 05:31.34 | Olgem | Does anyone know why libfuse2 and fuse-utils conflict but are both dependencies of libntfs-3g? |
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| 05:33.36 | \amethyst | Olgem: libfuse2 conflicts with an old version of fuse-utils, not the current one |
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| 05:37.47 | Olgem | \amethyst: thanks for the info, it helped me fix it |
| 05:37.57 | \amethyst | Olgem: cool, congrats |
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| 05:40.29 | Olgem | Awww. The backported ntfs-3g package for etch spouts out an error of a deficient linux kernel and wants me to upgrade to at least 2.6.20, but if its packaged for debian etch at 2.6.18-whatever, why would this happen |
| 05:40.56 | Olgem | This is when I try and "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/something /mnt/dsomething" |
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| 05:41.53 | Olgem | I guess I can try to force it |
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| 05:42.55 | enouf | !reboot |
| 05:42.55 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 05:43.17 | enouf | daya reference |
| 05:45.17 | CarLuva | !qotd2 |
| 05:45.18 | dpkg | <mrvn> Broadcast message from root (Sat Aug 7 05:48:42 2004): <mrvn> The system is going down for system halt NOW! <mrvn> What the fuck is dselect/dpkg doing a reboot for? <trave11er> mrvn: for changes to take effect? ;-) <StevenK> mrvn: You *had* to move the mouse, didn't you? <mrvn> StevenK: damn, yes. I accidentally pushed it. |
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| 05:52.52 | Olgem | Oh nevermind, it still mounts it, I just can't access ADS and the like |
| 05:52.58 | Olgem | I'm very pleased |
| 05:53.00 | Olgem | :] |
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| 06:07.29 | rarj | my KDE desktop is unresponsive after upgrading to lenny |
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| 06:18.17 | Zharf | is there any software which would output the name of the current layout that XKB uses? |
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| 06:24.01 | kb3llm_macbook | is there an up to date version of this? http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html |
| 06:24.07 | kb3llm_macbook | (installs on mac without a cd) |
| 06:24.11 | kb3llm_macbook | i dont have any blank cd's |
| 06:24.14 | kb3llm_macbook | *sigh* |
| 06:24.15 | \amethyst | Zharf: maybe setxkbmap -print ? |
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| 06:25.23 | Zharf | nope, it doesn't seem to output that.. |
| 06:25.40 | Zharf | I suppose I could look into xkb library and do it myself... |
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| 06:27.13 | \amethyst | Zharf: hm, setxkbmap -v 7 -print has the information |
| 06:27.23 | \amethyst | Zharf: but surely there must be an easier way |
| 06:27.57 | Zharf | \amethyst, it always says layout us for me though, I'm switching between fi and us with ctrl-shift |
| 06:28.08 | \amethyst | Zharf: oh, well, then :( |
| 06:28.11 | kb3llm_macbook | anyone? |
| 06:28.27 | \amethyst | kb3llm_macbook: you're on an intel mac? |
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| 06:29.05 | kb3llm_macbook | \amethyst: no. |
| 06:29.08 | kb3llm_macbook | PPC |
| 06:29.58 | \amethyst | kb3llm_macbook: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch05s01.html.en |
| 06:30.55 | \amethyst | kb3llm_macbook: there are sections for booting from a hard disk, a USB stick, or the network |
| 06:31.06 | kb3llm_macbook | cool. thanks. |
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| 06:32.23 | \amethyst | kb3llm_macbook: (I asked about Intel because of your nick, btw, but I guess you have more than one Mac :) |
| 06:32.34 | kb3llm_macbook | yep.. hehe |
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| 06:35.00 | Zharf | hmpf |
| 06:35.03 | kb3llm_macbook | \amethyst: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch04s05.html.en for 4.5.2 how do i find what partition number it is for the booting (next step - 5.1.2.3) |
| 06:35.04 | Zharf | stupid undocumented crap |
| 06:35.54 | \amethyst | kb3llm_macbook: that I wouldn't know... I've only done a Mac install once :) |
| 06:36.03 | kb3llm_macbook | k |
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| 06:36.50 | kb3llm_macbook | this is somewhat confusing.. |
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| 06:37.03 | kb3llm_macbook | those files go on the os x partition?? I think?? |
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| 06:37.19 | ducksdesktop | I see this line in pstree: |-anacron---run-parts---mlocate---updatedb.mlocat |
| 06:37.42 | \amethyst | Zharf: /usr/share/X11/doc/hardcopy/XKB/XKBlib.ps.gz in package xspecs |
| 06:37.45 | ducksdesktop | also, I observe harddisk acitivity, and I suspect this updatedb. thing is the cause... how do I stop it? |
| 06:37.54 | ducksdesktop | I don't want this stupid index |
| 06:38.14 | ducksdesktop | I already got one, it's called filesystem |
| 06:39.05 | ducksdesktop | oh... nvm, apt-get remove mlocate worked |
| 06:39.19 | SerajewelKS | i think the drive hosting my / is dying |
| 06:39.19 | ducksdesktop | still I wonder what installed it... heh |
| 06:39.25 | SerajewelKS | sigh |
| 06:40.39 | \amethyst | ducksdesktop: searching the index is much faster than searching the filesystem, of course :) |
| 06:40.45 | SerajewelKS | according to smart it is overheating and has had way too many seek errors |
| 06:41.06 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: do you have another disk handy? |
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| 06:41.22 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: not an empty one of the same size |
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| 06:41.35 | \amethyst | SerajewelKS: back up with rsync anyway :) |
| 06:42.21 | kb3llm_macbook | amethyst: I think its working. Thanks a lot.. |
| 06:42.23 | \amethyst | (or whatever you like for doing backups) |
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| 06:42.27 | ducksdesktop | \amethyst: it's ridiculous... the filesystem is supposed to provide this index |
| 06:42.35 | azote | morning all |
| 06:42.47 | \amethyst | ducksdesktop: yes, but the directories are not all located in the same place on disk |
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| 06:43.11 | \amethyst | ducksdesktop: so there's a lot more seeking to be done (and irrelevant data to be read) if you're searching the whole fs |
| 06:43.12 | ducksdesktop | \amethyst: yeah, ok, but then it's simply a bad filesystem implementation |
| 06:43.23 | \amethyst | ducksdesktop: find me a good one, then :) |
| 06:44.33 | SerajewelKS | \amethyst: it looks like i have enough space on another drive to tar one partition |
| 06:44.34 | azote | i need to to change kernel version on debian 4.0. im using apt to install new kernel image and install grub boot-loader instead of lilo and config grub but reboot crash. It's on server what i rent. |
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| 06:50.12 | \amethyst | azote: changing more than one thing at a time makes it difficult to debug |
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| 06:50.55 | \amethyst | azote: do you get any error messages? |
| 06:51.03 | \amethyst | azote: can you even see error messages? |
| 06:51.28 | azote | i cant see error when booting because its a remote server |
| 06:51.51 | \amethyst | azote: what can you do with it? |
| 06:52.06 | azote | i install image, reboot is ok |
| 06:52.15 | azote | i sinatll grub reboot is ok |
| 06:52.46 | azote | but when i configure grub to boot with new kernel image server dont reboot |
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| 06:54.11 | \amethyst | azote: when you installed the kernel and rebooted, did you boot to the new kernel or the old one? |
| 06:54.22 | azote | on the old |
| 06:54.31 | \amethyst | azote: did you try booting the new image with lilo? |
| 06:54.33 | azote | when im trying to configure for new reboot crash |
| 06:54.47 | azote | yes but reboot crash |
| 06:55.17 | \amethyst | azote: what version are you upgrading from/to? |
| 06:55.21 | azote | 2.6.18-5-686 is ok for core2duo on debian 32bit ? |
| 06:55.30 | \amethyst | yes, should be okay |
| 06:55.56 | \amethyst | it's probably the drive letters (or something like that) changing |
| 06:56.13 | azote | no it's dev/sda |
| 06:56.59 | \amethyst | well, without some way of seeing the errors you get when you boot the new kernel, it's going to be tough to figure out what's happenning |
| 06:57.29 | azote | yes i imagine |
| 06:58.42 | azote | because original kernel is a homemade kernel by the site where i rent my server |
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| 06:59.18 | azote | and i begin under linux and im lost with homemade kernel version :D |
| 06:59.21 | \amethyst | azote: oh... do you have the config for the old kernel? |
| 06:59.32 | \amethyst | lost? |
| 06:59.57 | azote | i dont understand tutorial etc with special kernel |
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| 07:00.07 | \amethyst | what kind of tutorials? |
| 07:00.20 | azote | because by example there is nothing in /lib/modules |
| 07:00.27 | \amethyst | oh... |
| 07:00.34 | \amethyst | what version is the old kernel? |
| 07:00.47 | \amethyst | ( uname -r will tell you ) |
| 07:01.14 | azote | yes i know but at the moment server reinstall :D |
| 07:01.25 | azote | just wait 5 minute and i will say you |
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| 07:01.53 | azote | but i think its 2.6.22..... i guess but im not sure |
| 07:02.09 | \amethyst | with no modules? |
| 07:02.22 | Nyle | hi |
| 07:02.32 | azote | i guess there is module but i dont know where |
| 07:02.43 | \amethyst | azote: other than the kernel it's debian? |
| 07:02.49 | azote | i belive there is in /sys |
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| 07:03.00 | \amethyst | no, /sys is a virtual filesystem |
| 07:03.18 | \amethyst | /sys/module/ contains information on the currently-loaded modules |
| 07:03.24 | azote | its a special kernel made by the guy where i rent server |
| 07:03.53 | azote | maybe u know ovh lol ? |
| 07:04.12 | Nyle | special kernel huh |
| 07:05.40 | azote | 2.6.21.5-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32 |
| 07:05.56 | azote | is the installed kernel |
| 07:06.30 | \amethyst | azote: is this a debian system? |
| 07:06.36 | azote | yeah |
| 07:06.39 | azote | debian etch |
| 07:06.47 | \amethyst | azote: but there's no /lib/modules ? |
| 07:07.06 | azote | ls /lib/modules |
| 07:07.06 | azote | ns27370:~# |
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| 07:08.00 | azote | ls -al /lib/modules |
| 07:08.00 | azote | total 8 |
| 07:08.00 | azote | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-04-10 15:45 . |
| 07:08.00 | azote | drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2007-04-20 15:30 .. |
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| 07:08.05 | azote | oops ;s |
| 07:08.28 | \amethyst | hm, does this kernel have everything compiled in or something? |
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| 07:08.56 | azote | dont know how to see that |
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| 07:16.30 | \amethyst | line 676 there? |
| 07:16.31 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 07:17.41 | \amethyst | ... |
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| 07:18.56 | azote | ?? |
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| 07:20.10 | methods | how do i get vim with color without installing vim-full because it requires like 5000000000 programs that no server needs |
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| 07:22.42 | \amethyst | methods: this is etch? |
| 07:22.54 | methods | yes sir |
| 07:25.13 | Element14 | methods: color? |
| 07:25.21 | methods | yea like for programming |
| 07:25.23 | methods | this is driving me nuts |
| 07:25.32 | Element14 | non-gui mode? |
| 07:25.39 | \amethyst | methods: hm... you're concerned particularly about the gtk and gnome dependencies? or the perl/python/ruby/tcl dependencies? |
| 07:25.41 | methods | yes this is a server |
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| 07:25.55 | Element14 | methods: just put the line "syntax on" in your vimrc |
| 07:25.57 | methods | i saw everything from gnome to stuff that had audio in the name |
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| 07:26.50 | winwinwin | what is debian? |
| 07:26.52 | winwinwin | how is it different from CentOS? |
| 07:26.54 | winwinwin | I am using RHEL |
| 07:26.56 | winwinwin | help me please |
| 07:27.05 | methods | kick that guy |
| 07:27.23 | methods | anyway the default rc file on slackware is even better than on debian... thats a shame |
| 07:27.38 | \amethyst | methods: you might try just the 'vim' package (not vim-tiny) |
| 07:27.52 | Element14 | isn't it called vim-basic? |
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| 07:28.00 | predder | no, it's vim-tiny |
| 07:28.11 | methods | no tiny |
| 07:28.36 | methods | i thought it was one of those things wher eyou had to have tiny or full installed and the "vim" was like base stuff |
| 07:28.43 | predder | so, methods, you've sorted it out? |
| 07:28.51 | \amethyst | methods: vim-common and vim-runtime are the base stuff |
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| 07:29.05 | methods | i coppied vimrc from /usr/share/vim and its not lit up let me try somet stuff |
| 07:29.26 | methods | synatx on did it |
| 07:29.27 | methods | :] |
| 07:29.31 | methods | wooo hoo! |
| 07:29.33 | predder | echo ":set nu\n:set tabstop=4 |
| 07:29.37 | methods | i can see again ! |
| 07:29.45 | methods | echo ? |
| 07:29.56 | predder | \n:syntax on\n:set background=dark" > ~./vimrc |
| 07:30.00 | predder | yeah, hit enter by mistake |
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| 07:30.16 | methods | was that some type of irc client exec type command ? |
| 07:30.19 | \amethyst | predder: what shell do you use? |
| 07:30.29 | predder | bash? |
| 07:30.31 | methods | i wrote my own ruby client |
| 07:30.33 | methods | for irc |
| 07:30.36 | \amethyst | predder: and did you grow up on a Unix other than Linux? |
| 07:30.41 | methods | its quirky i need like ncurses support |
| 07:30.47 | predder | no \amethyst |
| 07:30.53 | \amethyst | predder: I ask because you used \n in an echo without using echo -e |
| 07:30.58 | yang | Hm, does ebay offer tourist arrangements ? |
| 07:31.29 | predder | ahh you're right. My bad |
| 07:31.47 | methods | vim-runtime |
| 07:31.49 | methods | wtf isthat |
| 07:32.10 | predder | apt-cache show vim-runtime |
| 07:32.21 | methods | yea sorry |
| 07:32.25 | \amethyst | predder: the SysV echo does what you were expecting (automatically interpret backslashes, without needing -e). That's why I asked |
| 07:32.35 | methods | i just thought it was gonna say the same thing that apt-cache serach vim-runtime would show |
| 07:33.08 | predder | no, shows dependencies and a description of the package |
| 07:33.47 | predder | \amethyst I see. That was very diplomatic of you.. I would've expected "HA! you missed the -e n00b!" |
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| 07:34.21 | \amethyst | predder: you can go to #bash for that kind of interaction :) |
| 07:34.25 | methods | i have to say one thing i dont like about debian is that pkg maintainers get to decide what should be best for me |
| 07:34.36 | \amethyst | predder: depending on who is awake, that is :) |
| 07:34.41 | Element14 | methods: my experience is that they are usually right. |
| 07:34.48 | predder | amen |
| 07:34.55 | methods | yes sure when it comes to stuff i dotn care about |
| 07:34.59 | methods | try to customize something and omg |
| 07:35.12 | Element14 | for the rare times that they aren't, recompiling from source isn't that hard. |
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| 07:35.40 | \amethyst | methods: btw, you can talk to jamessan in #vim when he's awake. He's one of the maintainers |
| 07:36.05 | methods | i have exim built on my own and i installed cyrus... well the cyrus maintainers decided that i need any old mta as a dependency so it installed postfix !!! wtf... all i want is cyrus... its perfectly reasonable to have a imap only server |
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| 07:36.10 | \amethyst | and he's there frequently |
| 07:36.15 | methods | wasn't talking about vim |
| 07:36.19 | \amethyst | methods: ah :) |
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| 07:36.45 | \amethyst | methods: built on your own? not a debian package? |
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| 07:37.39 | methods | nope |
| 07:37.46 | methods | i have yet to learn the internals of a deb |
| 07:38.01 | predder | methods, it might be possible to install the package without the dependency |
| 07:38.06 | \amethyst | methods: maybe it just depended on mail-transfer-agent... then it saw that you don't have a mail-transfer-agent installed so picked one |
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| 07:38.41 | methods | and really i'd be happy with a simple deb for now... i tried to be mr debian and read the exim deb way of doing things... there is like a book on just exim debs!!! ffs.... and it was riddled with statements like, "we think this is the only real way anyone would ever need it setup" ffs... |
| 07:38.54 | methods | \amethyst: yes exsactly |
| 07:38.59 | methods | retarded... |
| 07:39.21 | \amethyst | methods: you can look at the package 'equivs' to generate a simple dependency-only package that says "Provides: mail-transfer-agent" |
| 07:39.24 | methods | someone told me about equives and i could build my own dumy package etc.. but thats just sloppy i think |
| 07:39.30 | \amethyst | methods: yes, it is |
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| 07:39.43 | methods | seriously cyrus should not require a mail-transfer-agent |
| 07:39.59 | \amethyst | I wonder which package it was that had the dependency |
| 07:40.09 | Element14 | methods: why did you build exim yourself? |
| 07:40.34 | methods | i mean come to think of it there is a setting in imapd.conf that asks for the path to sendmail... but for what i have no idea... since when do imap servers need access to sendmail ? |
| 07:40.41 | methods | Element14: seriously dont go there |
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| 07:41.21 | \amethyst | methods: 'checkinstall' might also be worth looking at |
| 07:41.29 | methods | unless its configured to send out warnings but thats also logged... you know... you should have a log watcher or something perhaps |
| 07:41.34 | methods | i thought it was broken now ? |
| 07:41.43 | methods | i even noticed it doesn't work right on slackware anymore |
| 07:41.49 | \amethyst | hm |
| 07:42.06 | \amethyst | I don't know, I don't use it |
| 07:42.42 | methods | i use to love it |
| 07:42.42 | \amethyst | usually when I need to change compile-time options (etc) I get the Debian source package and rebuild it |
| 07:42.42 | methods | i just wish there was something like that for deb |
| 07:42.51 | methods | now i on slack i build with a diff --prefix and then use makepkg |
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| 07:42.59 | methods | yea i wanted to do that |
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| 07:43.34 | \amethyst | methods: debian's checkinstall generates a .deb by default |
| 07:43.41 | methods | basically i fixed i need to compile my own exim-custom instead of exim-heavey or exim-light whatever they called it and then id replace exim-config with my own pkg something like exim-config-mine1 |
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| 07:44.20 | methods | \amethyst: yes i know this but last i know it was broken |
| 07:44.20 | \amethyst | methods: oh, I see, it went away temporarily in etch |
| 07:44.34 | \amethyst | and the build-dependencies are too high to do a simple backport :( |
| 07:44.35 | K_Sakura | My local network is having trouble seeing each other. (The cat5 cables are connected, and the netcards are working), just neither one seems to be able to see the other, and the one not next to the net (which this one masquerades for) can't see the internet either. |
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| 07:45.12 | methods | i mean i want to learn how to really make a nice deb though... so any helpfull docs on getting my head around deb internals would be great... i mean on slackware its so dam easy... its basically just a tar.gz with a simple install/ folder that has a doinstall.sh script and a few other things... no rocket science |
| 07:46.09 | methods | K_Sakura: well fi they cant see each other then one cant masquerade for the other |
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| 07:46.55 | Element14 | methods: there are probably more qualified people here but my method is: first, apt-get source PKG; cd PKG_DIR/; [edit stuff in debian/ which contains debian specific options]; then to build the deb run $ debian/rules binary |
| 07:46.56 | K_Sakura | This one masquerades for the other, *normally*, but it's not able to see the other right now. |
| 07:47.16 | methods | the weird thing too was that when i opened the exim deb source... the actuall source wasn't touched it looked like everyting was in debian/... whats up with that ? is there some script to apply the wizardry in there ? |
| 07:47.36 | methods | hm |
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| 07:47.46 | methods | so thats funny |
| 07:47.50 | methods | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.56 | methods | was the pun intended ? |
| 07:48.21 | methods | K_Sakura: any other pc's on the network ? is it a one to one connection or you have a switch ? |
| 07:48.22 | Element14 | haha no idea |
| 07:48.38 | K_Sakura | I have two computers, and a switch. |
| 07:48.59 | \amethyst | methods: depending on the package you might need to do something like ./debian/rules extract or ./debian/rules unpack to unpack the source |
| 07:49.26 | K_Sakura | (There is an old Mac that's 'on' the network, but it started acting strangely, so I've had it unplugged for some time.) |
| 07:50.17 | methods | what about the other ones ? |
| 07:50.24 | screamingbytes | hehe, http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/pitr/ad_linux-pitr.gif |
| 07:50.36 | methods | i mean do i have to download deb source for like exim-heavey and then modify that just to build the binary part ? |
| 07:51.26 | K_Sakura | I just remembered that I have a semi-broken laptop (with XP installed), that I was given a couple of months ago. |
| 07:51.37 | methods | K_Sakura: ok so i guess you have a hub/switch ? then that plugs into your local interface on your main pc which route/nat's for the rest of the network ? |
| 07:52.11 | methods | idk man have you checked your interfaces are up and tried to ping ? |
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| 07:52.46 | teclo- | Hello, what is the proper name for the meta-package which means "desktop computer" in aptitude isntall ? |
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| 07:53.06 | K_Sakura | The interfaces are up, and they say they are the right IP address, and Awkbix says it's default gateway is Awkbox -- so that's all normal. |
| 07:53.12 | simonrvn | screamingbytes: $partitionerOfChoice /dev/foo [I]nitialize partition table (or map) ;) |
| 07:53.24 | methods | teclo-: desktop? |
| 07:53.47 | methods | K_Sakura: i gues awkbix is the name of a pc or something ? |
| 07:53.50 | teclo- | methods: no such package, says aptitude |
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| 07:54.04 | methods | i forget |
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| 07:54.46 | amitprakash | how do i make a subscript or superscript in kate or gedit? |
| 07:55.03 | K_Sakura | Awkbox and Awkbix are the names I gave the computers in question. (Both Linux boxes.) |
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| 07:55.45 | methods | K_Sakura: whats the ip/mask on both systems ? |
| 07:55.56 | methods | how are you checking if the intefaces are up ? |
| 07:56.43 | K_Sakura | ifconfig for the interfaces, and the ip addresses are 10.16.32.1 & 10.16.32.2 respectively. |
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| 07:57.28 | methods | so 255.255.255.0 is the mask ? |
| 07:57.28 | amitprakash | methods, any ideas how do i make a subscript or superscript in kate or gedit? |
| 07:57.39 | methods | and ifconfig alone will show them up but ifconfig eth0 will show eth0 if its down anyway |
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| 07:58.20 | K_Sakura | mask 255.0.0.0. |
| 07:58.26 | methods | for both ? |
| 07:58.52 | Jaszbo | Hi room. How do I install Flash manually in Debian? As you know, it comes with iceweasel. |
| 07:58.53 | K_Sakura | for both. |
| 07:58.54 | methods | and you cant ping ? |
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| 07:59.06 | K_Sakura | And I can't ping. |
| 07:59.10 | methods | iptables ? |
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| 07:59.55 | K_Sakura | What about iptables? |
| 08:00.00 | methods | any settings ? |
| 08:00.19 | methods | in the filter table that would block stuff on the client or router |
| 08:00.47 | K_Sakura | Nope, it specifically allows all traffic on the interface in question. |
| 08:01.08 | K_Sakura | And I haven't touched the masquerading section in quite some time. |
| 08:01.23 | methods | bad cable ? |
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| 08:01.52 | enouf | this is interesting; swapoff /dev/hdc2 ; time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdc2 bs=512 skip=100 <--actually writes zeros O.o |
| 08:02.25 | K_Sakura | Could be -- need to check first. |
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| 08:03.15 | enouf | or, when i was using strings and xxd just prior to that, (strings /dev/hdc2) i am actuially viewing a VFS? |
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| 08:03.40 | enouf | (since the partition was riddled with data) |
| 08:03.53 | enouf | (so it seemed) |
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| 08:05.58 | K_Sakura | Not the cable, it seems. |
| 08:06.08 | methods | dude common |
| 08:06.09 | K_Sakura | (Testing with an otherwise new cable.) |
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| 08:06.39 | CharonX | I picked up an old server at auction. It has 6x 73.4 G(drive type a) and 2x 18.2 G(drive b) Layered(b,a,a,a,b,a,a,a) all scsi drives. Any thoughts on the raid type or what the intended setup was on this thing ? |
| 08:07.31 | joltcan | CharonX: I guess there is two scsi channals, and thats why they have splitted it equal over both |
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| 08:07.48 | happla | Has anyone ever experienced a harddrive that can write in full speed and then read 0 bytes per second? |
| 08:08.05 | joltcan | CharonX: I would probably have made it raid1 for b drives, and raid5 with hot spair for the a ones |
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| 08:08.11 | CharonX | joltcan, im wondering why the two 18G drives in each channel |
| 08:08.25 | CharonX | joltcan, hmmm |
| 08:08.25 | joltcan | CharonX: raid1, two disks. Helps with write speed |
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| 08:08.56 | CharonX | joltcan, yes... and would make a good place to load the OS. Leaving the others for DB's |
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| 08:09.11 | joltcan | CharonX: Exactly my point |
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| 08:09.22 | happla | CharonX: Each controller has a cpu, and if you read and write on a diskarea thats raided y ou want to loadbalance it over the two cpu's |
| 08:09.59 | CharonX | happla, I get that, I was just trying to organize in my head why the hard drives were layed out as such |
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| 08:10.16 | happla | CharonX: load balancing |
| 08:10.23 | CharonX | Needed to bounce it off a few minds :). Thanks guys |
| 08:10.29 | happla | CharonX: =) |
| 08:10.33 | happla | joltcan: ^5 |
| 08:10.47 | happla | joltcan: my raid had rebuilded today - shows as "good" now =) |
| 08:10.50 | happla | joltcan: only took a month |
| 08:10.52 | happla | =) |
| 08:11.02 | joltcan | happla: hooray! |
| 08:11.36 | happla | joltcan: and on a sidenote - I changed a crontab today with switches -fris and I removed the r, so it now reads -fis - so it's: system-helath -fis |
| 08:11.40 | happla | *snickering* |
| 08:11.51 | SlimG2 | Is it possible using the Debian installer to setup another disk (hdb) to mirror the bootdisk (hda) ? |
| 08:11.55 | happla | joltcan: maybe it should be -blorr |
| 08:12.15 | happla | SlimG2: just dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb |
| 08:12.23 | happla | SlimG2: if they are same size, make and model |
| 08:12.40 | joltcan | SlimG2: You want it to be in a raid1 perhaps? |
| 08:12.59 | SlimG2 | joltcan: yes, raid1 was the name :) forgot to mention |
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| 08:13.18 | SlimG2 | happla: Sorry for not mentioning the need for raid1 |
| 08:13.26 | methods | so no information on how to build debs? |
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| 08:13.31 | happla | SlimG2: ok |
| 08:13.39 | happla | joltcan: ^5 |
| 08:13.41 | joltcan | SlimG2: The raid howto describes how to setup a md as raid1 with a "faulty" drive. So read that |
| 08:13.46 | joltcan | happla: ^5 |
| 08:14.03 | porkpie | hi guys, does anyone know where pppupd is ? |
| 08:14.22 | porkpie | trying to find a package to keep a vpn connection up |
| 08:14.27 | joltcan | methods: I don't rememver from the top of my head, but check on debian.org under docs |
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| 08:15.22 | SlimG2 | joltcan: Thanks for the pointer, I'll ty to find it in the debian documentation |
| 08:15.25 | joltcan | porkpie: Can't you just ping to keep it up? (never heard of that package) |
| 08:15.26 | happla | find . -name "joltcangreatness" | wc -l |
| 08:15.32 | joltcan | 0 |
| 08:15.33 | happla | Error: Overflow |
| 08:15.35 | happla | =) |
| 08:15.36 | joltcan | baha |
| 08:16.59 | porkpie | joltcan:any ideas on the script that would do that ? |
| 08:17.01 | K_Sakura | I just remembered, Awkbox's et131x was spewing some errors a few days ago, "et131x.ko:WARNING:et131x_ioctl Unhandled IOCTL Co |
| 08:17.01 | K_Sakura | de: 0x8b01" |
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| 08:24.21 | iateadonut | how do you say, "debian" |
| 08:24.31 | enouf | deb + ian |
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| 08:25.05 | enouf | (though, for some reason when i say it, it comes out more like day-bee-an) |
| 08:26.08 | \amethyst | iateadonut: ˈdɛbiɛn says wikipedia |
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| 08:27.38 | Rev_Slid3r | anyone ever have trouble with the apache2 config not allowing for execution on .pl files in a cgi-bin |
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| 08:28.02 | \amethyst | Rev_Slid3r: are they executable? |
| 08:28.10 | Rev_Slid3r | it downloads the script instead of executing them |
| 08:28.11 | Rev_Slid3r | yes |
| 08:28.14 | Rev_Slid3r | they are |
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| 08:28.34 | \amethyst | Rev_Slid3r: how is this cgi-bin directory set up? |
| 08:28.54 | Rev_Slid3r | one sec |
| 08:29.08 | K_Sakura | Any programs to graphically (or textually) show network topography? |
| 08:29.58 | Rev_Slid3r | \amethyst: http://www.pastehere.com/?hseohg |
| 08:30.14 | Rev_Slid3r | Ive tried about every variation of that I can think of |
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| 08:30.36 | \amethyst | K_Sakura: I think cheops-ng can do that |
| 08:31.53 | \amethyst | Rev_Slid3r: and what's the URL you're trying to access? |
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| 08:32.28 | Rev_Slid3r | well tbh I changed it becuz its not secure ... it just dl's the file |
| 08:32.44 | \amethyst | Rev_Slid3r: just the part after the hostname |
| 08:33.12 | \amethyst | /cgi-bin/foo.pl ? |
| 08:33.16 | Rev_Slid3r | yes |
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| 08:34.46 | envsn | anyone know how to use apt-get whiel passing some configuration options? |
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| 08:35.19 | Rev_Slid3r | like apt-get --purge remove apache2 ? |
| 08:35.27 | Rev_Slid3r | oh wait thats just me |
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| 08:36.26 | envsn | Rev_Slid3r: haha |
| 08:36.47 | Rev_Slid3r | not so much haha tbh |
| 08:37.09 | \amethyst | Rev_Slid3r: anything in the error log? |
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| 08:37.19 | sharingos | hi |
| 08:37.23 | sharingos | c++ libraries |
| 08:37.27 | sharingos | what are? |
| 08:37.32 | sharingos | apt-get install what? |
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| 08:37.46 | K_Sakura | libcpp, IIRC. |
| 08:37.52 | Rev_Slid3r | no \amethyst it just shows a dl request for the file |
| 08:38.22 | sharingos | thanks |
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| 08:38.36 | \amethyst | sharingos: if you install g++ it should pull in the appropriate version of libstdc++ |
| 08:38.48 | sharingos | apt-get install g++? |
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| 08:39.05 | \amethyst | sharingos: the packages are libstdc++6-4.1-dev libstdc++6-4.2-dev etc. depending on which version of debian you have |
| 08:39.09 | \amethyst | sharingos: yes |
| 08:39.20 | sharingos | thanks |
| 08:39.23 | sharingos | now I try it |
| 08:39.36 | mandingo | I'm trying to mount a local /etc overlay (rw) over my ro /. The problem is that if I just put the unionfs mount in /etc/fstab, /etc isn't writable during boot. Any suggestions as to where to put the unionfs mount? |
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| 08:40.00 | \amethyst | sharingos: that will install the default version of the C++ compiler and the corresponding libstdc++6-*-dev (the standard libraries) |
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| 08:40.13 | sharingos | it says that I have it |
| 08:40.31 | \amethyst | sharingos: good :) |
| 08:40.46 | sharingos | :)) |
| 08:40.48 | sander_m | Hello. Does anyone have experience with (intel) wireless and jammers? For some days my ipw3945 keeps giving errors (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=460872). I thought it was just me but today I discovered that nobody here can find any wifi network. I suspect foul play (a jammer). Can I detect that somehow? |
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| 08:41.12 | K_Sakura | Anyone have any weird problems with et131x netcards? |
| 08:41.30 | siddharta | hello everybody |
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| 08:42.39 | simonrvn | mandingo: um.... don't put /etc/ on its own partition, that's just silly |
| 08:42.45 | ^shark_ | hi friends -- i am getting "warning, flexible rate not heavily tested" on my mpg123, how do i solve this issue |
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| 08:45.42 | simonrvn | it's a warning, not an error |
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| 08:47.40 | ^shark_ | simonrvn: how do i deal with this? |
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| 08:48.01 | streuner | ignoring? |
| 08:48.15 | ^shark_ | simonrvn: now error: giving up resync - your stream is not nice... perhaps an improved routine could catch up |
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| 08:48.24 | simonrvn | doesn't seem serious, i'd ignore it. seems to think that mp3 is a (more) variable rate than usual one |
| 08:48.53 | simonrvn | hm, you tracking a stream or something? |
| 08:49.42 | ^shark_ | simonrvn: i am trying to play an mp3 file and looks like this could be causing problem with CPU? |
| 08:49.55 | Rev_Slid3r | \amethyst: ya give up on me? |
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| 08:50.13 | Rev_Slid3r | Ive tried AllowOverride |
| 08:50.22 | Rev_Slid3r | I dunno wtf to do |
| 08:50.36 | simonrvn | something's going on. your system under high load? maybe the file is iffy? |
| 08:51.51 | K_Sakura | I'm getting 'destination host unreachable' while pinging a machine on my local subnet, ideas? |
| 08:52.10 | K_Sakura | (Likewise pinging from the other machine.) |
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| 08:52.55 | ^shark_ | simonrvn: these are the partial messages i am getting on the command prompt http://internetworkpro.org/pastebin/1683 |
| 08:53.12 | simonrvn | K_Sakura: bad route, something blocking traffic, iface not up |
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| 08:53.38 | K_Sakura | Interface is up, what could be blocking traffic? |
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| 08:54.09 | simonrvn | i don't know. find out |
| 08:55.47 | K_Sakura | So how do I go about finding out. |
| 08:55.50 | K_Sakura | ?* |
| 08:56.58 | ^shark_ | i have decided to deal away with mpg123, seems its not the best software for my music files |
| 08:57.09 | simonrvn | check route -n; check iptables (if you use it) |
| 08:57.23 | simonrvn | iptables -vnxL | less |
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| 08:58.35 | simonrvn | ^shark_: seems the file might be corrupt. try another player (like you said) |
| 08:58.43 | simonrvn | make sure it isn't |
| 08:59.33 | simonrvn | K_Sakura: some people in their ignorance block *all* ICMP, instead of rate limiting some, blocking others, or just rate limiting all of it |
| 08:59.38 | porkpie | anyone here know how I can keep a ppp connection up |
| 08:59.51 | porkpie | I need a redial script |
| 08:59.59 | simonrvn | in the config, it's well commented |
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| 09:00.26 | simonrvn | /etc/ppp/options IIRC |
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| 09:00.34 | K_Sakura | My firewall drops all icmp not originating from my subnet. |
| 09:00.53 | K_Sakura | (not relating to an established connection.) |
| 09:01.03 | troubled | !lart sim |
| 09:01.14 | troubled | bah |
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| 09:01.29 | porkpie | simonrvn:I have just worked through the options but can't seem to see that option .... I have enabled persistent |
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| 09:02.08 | porkpie | simonrvn:not sure if that is the option |
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| 09:04.06 | K_Sakura | Is there anything in testing that broke recently? (Related to networks.) |
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| 09:05.27 | moshii | K_Sakura: iproute or something was updated recently.. but to check if that broke anything you'd have to check the BTS |
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| 09:08.15 | sharingos | hi |
| 09:08.18 | sharingos | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.49 | moshii | sharingos: broken makefile.. what are you building? |
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| 09:09.59 | _bt | hello, im about to rsync my debian install over to slightly newer hardware, is there anything i should definitely or definitely not be doing? anything in particular i should watch out for? |
| 09:10.01 | sharingos | broken Makefile? what means? I'm building |
| 09:10.26 | sharingos | a simulation of a wireless sensor network |
| 09:11.02 | moshii | sharingos: there is no rule to build an object that is referenced somewhere.. |
| 09:11.15 | sharingos | uhm |
| 09:11.37 | sharingos | yes but this file: /usr/include/c++/3.3/cassert' |
| 09:11.43 | sharingos | is it a standard c++ file? |
| 09:11.48 | moshii | sharingos: make sure your build environment is complete by installing build-essential first |
| 09:11.55 | jaggz- | finally i find a lunix channel! tell me, why i use lunix n not ms word?? |
| 09:12.03 | sharingos | build essential? for example? |
| 09:12.23 | sharingos | asd lunix |
| 09:12.29 | sharingos | jaggz linux |
| 09:12.31 | moshii | sharingos: build-essential is a meta package that pulls in a working build environment |
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| 09:12.37 | jaggz- | ;) |
| 09:12.44 | sharingos | :) |
| 09:13.04 | jaggz- | bt, ? hmm.. |
| 09:13.11 | moshii | jaggz-: you can't have looked to hard, #linux.. |
| 09:13.13 | sharingos | what's its name? do you know? for exajmple |
| 09:13.27 | sharingos | I have installed g++ |
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| 09:13.34 | sharingos | apt-get install g++ |
| 09:13.37 | sharingos | and gcc |
| 09:13.40 | moshii | sharingos: yes, install the build-essential package |
| 09:13.49 | sharingos | others? |
| 09:13.50 | jaggz- | bt, it's possible there are automatically detected, by the install, things which will differ between the two. Also there is configuration of partitions, grub, boot sectors, etc. |
| 09:13.51 | sharingos | do you know? |
| 09:13.53 | wols | sharingos: that's wrong and not complete |
| 09:14.00 | sharingos | uhm |
| 09:14.02 | moshii | sharingos: it's called build-essential, install it |
| 09:14.07 | sharingos | ah okok |
| 09:14.30 | sharingos | I have it |
| 09:14.35 | sharingos | I have tried now :( |
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| 09:14.46 | sharingos | and they are updated also :( |
| 09:15.27 | moshii | sharingos: the thing is.. why does the makefile reference something outside it's tree? |
| 09:16.04 | envsn | you guys have any apt-get deb-src's? |
| 09:16.06 | jaggz- | bt, also, if you're using rsync, you obviously already have a working system up. Is it an older install? you'll end up with sloppiness in the existing packages (unless you tell rsync to delete them? I've never done that...) |
| 09:16.09 | wols | sharingos: you haven't installed the proper libstdc++ packages |
| 09:16.17 | sharingos | I don't know it.. this Makefile is of my univerisity prof :[ |
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| 09:16.30 | sharingos | uhm |
| 09:16.47 | jaggz- | sharingos, and what kind of file name is "cassert" anyway. |
| 09:17.13 | jaggz- | no extension? |
| 09:17.20 | sharingos | apt-get install libstdc++ doesn't works :( |
| 09:17.24 | wols | sharingos: go to packages.debian.org and look which package in your distro provides /usr/include/c++/3.3/cassert |
| 09:17.28 | wols | then install it |
| 09:17.35 | sharingos | uhm ok |
| 09:17.36 | wols | sharingos: you need to do a little more work |
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| 09:17.50 | sharingos | ok |
| 09:17.51 | sharingos | thanks |
| 09:17.52 | sharingos | :)) |
| 09:17.57 | jaggz- | wols |
| 09:18.08 | jaggz- | calc linux |
| 09:18.10 | jaggz- | !linux |
| 09:18.10 | dpkg | well, linux is closed |
| 09:18.11 | moshii | sharingos: the 3.3 part would mean g++ 3.3 I think too.. you might have 4.something |
| 09:18.14 | Erik1 | I use xchat-gnome here and in the left column (the names of the chatters) all names are surrounded by < and >, which two characters are again enclosed in colored squares with 4 dots in them. How can I get rid of this weird stuff > |
| 09:18.20 | wols | moshii: no |
| 09:18.22 | sharingos | ok |
| 09:18.25 | jaggz- | !unix |
| 09:18.25 | dpkg | somebody said unix was a broad definition for a very popular kind of OS or is what the Internet was built on, or sexy, or http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/otherunix.html, or http://www.unix-systems.org/, or a gift from the gods, or http://www.scarynetworkguy.net. |
| 09:18.36 | wols | !tell jaggz- about msgthebot |
| 09:18.39 | jaggz- | dpkg, unix is a linux-like operating system |
| 09:18.40 | dpkg | ...but unix is already something else... |
| 09:18.44 | streuner | jaggz-: can you stop abusing the bot, please? |
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| 09:19.08 | jaggz- | I'm not abusing the bot I'm abusing my silence, and I'm sorry and will try to avoid it. |
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| 09:20.21 | moshii | wols: well, the directories in my /usr/include seem to be in line with the gcc versions installed.. |
| 09:20.48 | wols | moshii: do what I told sharingos to do |
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| 09:23.09 | moshii | wols: yup, still no 3.3 tree |
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| 09:23.55 | wols | libstdc++5-3.3-dev |
| 09:24.35 | moshii | which requires gcc et. al 3.3 |
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| 09:24.42 | wols | moshii: >= |
| 09:26.12 | sharingos | guys |
| 09:26.13 | moshii | g++-3.3 though ;) |
| 09:26.25 | sharingos | this cassert file it seems that doesn't exists |
| 09:26.26 | sharingos | :( |
| 09:26.34 | sharingos | I have tried with apt-file |
| 09:26.37 | sharingos | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:26.39 | sharingos | but no result :( |
| 09:27.40 | moshii | sharingos: I have it here with libstdc++5-3.3-dev installed |
| 09:28.44 | sharingos | ok |
| 09:28.46 | sharingos | thanks :)) |
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| 09:30.57 | moshii | Debian can do a bsd style wheel group can't it? Where exactly do you turn it on? |
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| 09:33.08 | wols | !wheel |
| 09:33.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, wheel is n. [from slang `big wheel' for a powerful person] The traditional name of security group zero in BSD. Irrelevant in debian default configs. You can use a PAM module to allow only group wheel to su to root (as is the default in some Unices), or to allow group wheel to su to root without a password. See man pam_wheel for details. |
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| 09:34.20 | moshii | ah, pam |
| 09:36.46 | enouf | apt-file update you weenie |
| 09:36.57 | enouf | you were told twice in the other channel |
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| 09:44.52 | niklas^ | hmm what is the sources to kde4 i mean in sources.list |
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| 09:45.18 | moshii | niklas^: it's in experimental. Don't run it if you want something that works |
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| 09:49.37 | niklas^ | are kde4 in unstable ? |
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| 09:51.10 | enouf | http://debian-news.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3861 |
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| 09:53.16 | wols | enouf: it's why I always tell them to use pdo instead of apt-file: the can bork it not so easily |
| 09:54.39 | enouf | hrm, i guess so |
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| 09:55.09 | enouf | odd , simple really http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-find-missing-packages-with-apt-file |
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| 09:56.34 | ^shark_ | !mplayer |
| 09:56.34 | dpkg | mplayer is probably in Debian beginning with Etch. See README.Debian in the Debian package for details. You may want to use a player based on xine-lib or vlc instead. Unofficial packages are available on <debian-multimedia>. The Debian and mplayer FAQ is at http://people.debian.org/~mjr/mplayer.html |
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| 09:58.59 | astronaute | hello guys |
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| 09:59.07 | astronaute | can anyone tell me where to configure stdout and stderr logs on tomcat 5.5 / etch 4 |
| 09:59.29 | envsn | anyone install ffmpeg successfully on their etch box? |
| 10:00.16 | themill | envsn: a newer version is on dmm. /msg dpkg dmme |
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| 10:05.53 | envsn | wow |
| 10:05.55 | envsn | i hit an error |
| 10:05.59 | envsn | w/ liblame |
| 10:06.01 | Guerin | did it hit back? |
| 10:06.10 | envsn | no, it ran away |
| 10:06.18 | envsn | oh wait... |
| 10:06.18 | Guerin | you still get XP for it |
| 10:06.28 | envsn | it's coming back |
| 10:06.34 | Guerin | well |
| 10:06.36 | envsn | can't tell what it's holding in its hand though |
| 10:06.46 | Guerin | no point in fighting it again, you only get XP once |
| 10:06.56 | envsn | that's true |
| 10:07.03 | Penix | looks like a copy of the MP3 patent(s). run! |
| 10:07.06 | envsn | i'll just walk the other direction |
| 10:07.36 | envsn | maybe I'll find new things for XP |
| 10:07.49 | envsn | but then again, that's just a pipe dream... |
| 10:07.52 | Guerin | good point |
| 10:08.09 | Guerin | does this error stand in the way of your quest? |
| 10:08.20 | Guerin | you might have to properly vanquish it after all |
| 10:08.31 | envsn | no, but I do need it for a piece of a collection |
| 10:08.40 | Guerin | hm |
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| 10:08.49 | envsn | apparently I'm not granted full benefits until I have all aspects of the set |
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| 10:09.09 | envsn | and well, this ffmpeg isn't doing so much for me without the whole shebang |
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| 10:10.32 | envsn | haha ok, in all seriousness though |
| 10:10.39 | envsn | I had originally compiled lame from source |
| 10:10.50 | envsn | tried numerous times to compile ffmpeg w/ lame support from source, all failed |
| 10:11.03 | envsn | so I added the new dmm rep, and did a apt-get install ffmpeg |
| 10:11.09 | karmatronic | envsn: yeah i remember having pb with last compil |
| 10:11.14 | envsn | which looked like it was going over smoothly, as soon as I hit lame |
| 10:11.20 | envsn | it gave me a fatty kick in the ass |
| 10:11.41 | didar | thats for using MP3 |
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| 10:13.34 | envsn | didar: haha I know, but ffmpeg needs it for encoding |
| 10:13.51 | envsn | karmatronic: you ever reach a resolution? |
| 10:14.18 | didar | what kind of error is it? |
| 10:14.24 | karmatronic | envsn: i dont remember .... |
| 10:14.27 | didar | any message |
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| 10:15.07 | envsn | yeah, err code 1 |
| 10:15.15 | envsn | lemme pastebin this |
| 10:15.46 | envsn | http://pastebin.com/db6bbdd1 |
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| 10:16.15 | nesca | elo all :) |
| 10:16.40 | nesca | is somebody know HA and iSCSI configuration with one Storage disk?i |
| 10:16.42 | wols | envsn: where does the liblame come from and where does the package lame come from? |
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| 10:16.52 | wols | apt-cache policy will tell you |
| 10:17.12 | wols | !info lame etch |
| 10:17.17 | nesca | or how mount disk when HA start on one node? |
| 10:17.25 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:17.31 | nesca | or how use my script(bash) when node start? |
| 10:17.55 | envsn | wols: dmm |
| 10:18.07 | sharingos | hi alll |
| 10:18.09 | wols | envsn: so where does your "lame" come from? |
| 10:18.14 | sharingos | If I want install |
| 10:18.18 | sharingos | gcc 3.3 |
| 10:18.23 | wols | !enter |
| 10:18.23 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 10:18.25 | envsn | wols: the deb pkg? should be from dmm |
| 10:18.25 | sharingos | I would do? |
| 10:18.33 | sharingos | apt-get install what? |
| 10:18.34 | envsn | wols: let me remove and try apt-get -f install |
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| 10:18.57 | envsn | Get:1 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main liblame0 3.97-0.0 [186kB] |
| 10:19.01 | envsn | yep |
| 10:19.03 | envsn | same file again |
| 10:19.06 | envsn | same errors |
| 10:19.12 | wols | then why do you mix debian and dmm pacakges? |
| 10:19.28 | beware | how do i find out the installed debian version from the shell? |
| 10:19.36 | Aciid | beware: uname -a ? |
| 10:19.46 | envsn | wols: I was told to earlier? didn't know there's a diff? |
| 10:19.53 | beware | no. |
| 10:20.03 | beware | that tells the *kernel* version |
| 10:20.04 | envsn | wols: so I should be taking this out of my sources.list file? |
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| 10:20.09 | wols | !version |
| 10:20.09 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version |
| 10:20.22 | mkl1525 | Hi, AFAIR there was a way to show changes that an apt upgrade does before doing a real upgrade - any hints? |
| 10:20.32 | wols | envsn: no. you shouldn't mix lame from debian and dmm. having dmm is fine and sometimes needed (like decss) |
| 10:20.37 | beware | i mean the distribution version, not the kernel version |
| 10:20.44 | beware | ah ok |
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| 10:21.06 | envsn | wols: should I just comment out my debian repo for now? |
| 10:21.14 | envsn | wols: and leave dmm by itself? |
| 10:21.23 | beware | this provider still puts sarge on their new boxes. |
| 10:21.28 | wols | no you shouldn't necessarily |
| 10:21.38 | BarbaraSalesch | Hi. Is there possiblity to Download Packages with Depends. without install to a Folder that is located for example /home/me/PACKAGES ? |
| 10:21.47 | BarbaraSalesch | with aptitude |
| 10:21.47 | wols | beware: open happens with rootserver providers. |
| 10:22.17 | beware | what would be the best way to upgrade it? apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 10:22.27 | wols | !sarge->etch |
| 10:22.27 | dpkg | sarge->etch is read the etch release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes ; the recommended upgrade procedure for sarge->etch is no longer as simple as running "aptitude dist-upgrade", please follow the prodedure in the <release notes>. Also ask me about <security> |
| 10:22.35 | lethias | How do i upgrade my etch box's gnome version from 2.14 to the latest using the packages system? |
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| 10:22.47 | wols | lethias: not possible |
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| 10:23.09 | wols | you can look for backports but I don't think a gnome backport exists |
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| 10:23.24 | lethias | wols, so i'd have to download the source, compile it, create my own package and install it. |
| 10:23.26 | wols | envsn: why do you want to install liblame0? |
| 10:23.39 | wols | lethias: good luck there. you'll need it |
| 10:24.05 | lethias | lol just was curious, does ubuntu keep that stuff updated more? |
| 10:24.07 | envsn | wols: I don't need liblame0, but I need a version of lame that ffmpeg can compile with and use |
| 10:24.20 | envsn | wols: I tried doing a manual install of lame, but ffmpeg doesn't like that |
| 10:24.33 | envsn | wols: someone recommended that I add dmm and apt-get install ffmpeg from that |
| 10:24.37 | wols | dmm comes with ffmpeg too I think |
| 10:24.52 | sharingos | hi |
| 10:24.55 | wols | yes, it answers my you want lame. it doesn't answer why you want liblame0 |
| 10:24.57 | sharingos | I have installed gcc |
| 10:25.01 | sharingos | but it says me: kakashi:/home/dany/Desktop# gcc |
| 10:25.02 | sharingos | bash: /usr/bin/gcc: No such file or directory |
| 10:25.08 | sharingos | do you know why? |
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| 10:25.15 | wols | sharingos: dpkg -l |grep gcc |
| 10:25.21 | beware | i guess as usual etch is so recent it still comes with X1 |
| 10:25.23 | envsn | wols: apt-get install ffmpeg automatically loaded liblame0 w/ it |
| 10:25.28 | envsn | wols: as a dependency |
| 10:25.35 | envsn | wols: i really didn't have much of a choice |
| 10:25.47 | sharingos | kakashi:/home/dany/Desktop# dpkg -l |grep gcc |
| 10:25.47 | sharingos | ii gcc-3.3 3.3.6-15 The GNU C compiler |
| 10:25.47 | sharingos | ii gcc-3.3-base 3.3.6-15 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) |
| 10:25.47 | sharingos | ii gcc-3.4 3.4.6-5 The GNU C compiler |
| 10:25.47 | sharingos | ii gcc-3.4-base 3.4.6-5 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) |
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| 10:26.01 | sharingos | ops |
| 10:26.06 | wols | envsn: bu*sigh |
| 10:26.15 | wols | envsn: install your ffmpeg from dmm |
| 10:26.22 | sharingos | are them arrived (the lines of code) ? |
| 10:26.30 | envsn | wols: how can I cancel this current ffmpeg install then? |
| 10:26.32 | wols | no. and stop repeating them |
| 10:26.37 | sharingos | pl |
| 10:26.41 | envsn | wols: it's half way done, can't do anything until I do apt-get -f install |
| 10:26.43 | wols | envsn: remoev the package |
| 10:27.46 | envsn | wols: not letting me |
| 10:27.58 | envsn | wols: it failed during an upgrade and now it just wants me to finish installing |
| 10:28.16 | wols | remove all conflicting packages |
| 10:29.09 | envsn | it's going in circles |
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| 10:29.12 | envsn | haha, you gotta see this |
| 10:29.33 | wols | that's why you can remove more than one package with one operation for example |
| 10:30.00 | wols | and it's also why dpkg has all those wonderful options |
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| 10:30.55 | envsn | ok |
| 10:31.00 | envsn | i did it |
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| 10:31.12 | BarbaraSalesch | Hi. Is there possiblity to Download Packages with Depends. without install to a Folder that is located for example /home/me/PACKAGES ? |
| 10:31.15 | envsn | ok, just tried again to apt-get install fmpeg |
| 10:31.19 | envsn | after an update |
| 10:31.22 | envsn | and removing the other repos |
| 10:31.27 | envsn | same error :-P |
| 10:31.31 | envsn | gonna just give up |
| 10:31.46 | sharingos | guys |
| 10:31.51 | wols | of course it's the same error since you did the same thing exactly again! |
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| 10:32.01 | wols | you do know what the definition of insanity is? |
| 10:32.03 | envsn | wols: I thought you implied that I mixed packages? |
| 10:32.18 | wols | yes you do. and mixing them again won't help duh! |
| 10:32.21 | envsn | wols: I'm going to find out the true meaning |
| 10:32.29 | envsn | wols: what would you do in this case? |
| 10:32.42 | envsn | wols: compile from source? or attempt apt-get in anothe fashion? |
| 10:32.53 | wols | install the ffmpeg stuff only from dmm obviously. starting by installing the dmm ffmpeg... |
| 10:33.02 | wols | apt-cache policy ffmpeg |
| 10:33.12 | EvilRick | I got 2 files I used to mount with cryptoloop under sarge but now cannot mount them under etch I used to use encryption=AES256 in the mount options but its no longer supported. |
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| 10:33.30 | envsn | wols: ok, I did that, you want to see the candidateversion? |
| 10:33.34 | EvilRick | I now use losetup with -e aes and it still wont mount properly |
| 10:33.39 | envsn | Candidate: 3:20070329-0.0 |
| 10:33.39 | envsn | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.39 | envsn | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.40 | envsn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:33.43 | sharingos | I have removed gcc vers 4 package and after I have installed the version 3 of gcc but it doesn't works then I have installed build -essential with apt-get but with this installation, my apt-get has updates gcc at version 4.0 also and I wanted do it... How could I do please? |
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| 10:33.56 | envsn | sorry |
| 10:33.59 | EvilRick | I suspect I need to select some form of password has algo as well but -H is not supported |
| 10:34.07 | karmatronic | envsn: i checked , and i couls compile |
| 10:34.14 | EvilRick | anyone know what I can do? |
| 10:34.16 | wols | EvilRick: install the sarge packages you needed for it and migrate your encrypted container data to somewhere else |
| 10:34.18 | envsn | karmatronic: you have etch? |
| 10:34.29 | sharingos | no one? |
| 10:34.46 | wols | sharingos: why do you insist on gcc-3.3? |
| 10:34.59 | sharingos | because I need it |
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| 10:35.13 | wols | that as a useless answer |
| 10:35.16 | sharingos | with gcc 4 doesn't compiles |
| 10:35.23 | karmatronic | envsn: it s just a matter of identifying your missing dev libs |
| 10:35.28 | wols | !tell sharingos about doesn't work |
| 10:35.30 | karmatronic | envsn: i run lenny |
| 10:35.40 | envsn | karmatronic: no missing libraries, it was having an issue unpacking |
| 10:35.43 | moshii | wols: that thing his building seems to be linking (or at least depends via the makefile) to something in 3.3 |
| 10:35.45 | envsn | karmatronic: that or copying a file |
| 10:35.48 | envsn | karmatronic: check my log |
| 10:35.50 | wols | !paste envsn |
| 10:35.50 | dpkg | envsn: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 10:35.54 | envsn | http://pastebin.com/m23d8a744 |
| 10:36.13 | sharingos | yes |
| 10:36.14 | wols | moshii: the libstdc++ als o clealy says gcc 3.3 or greater. so 4.x should be fine |
| 10:36.18 | moshii | sharingos: you need to tell however made that app not to reference out of tree stuff in the make file |
| 10:36.32 | moshii | wols: it depends on g++-3.3 packages |
| 10:36.38 | envsn | http://paste.debian.net/47136 |
| 10:36.43 | sharingos | make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/c++/3.3/cassert', needed by `CLOCK_GENERATOR.o'. Stop. |
| 10:36.44 | wols | EvilRick: I didn't ask for that |
| 10:36.46 | envsn | that's the apt-cache policy |
| 10:36.52 | sharingos | Makefile says it |
| 10:36.55 | sharingos | :| |
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| 10:37.42 | sharingos | kakashi:/usr/include/c++# ls |
| 10:37.43 | sharingos | 3.4 4.1 4.1.2 |
| 10:37.46 | sharingos | I have not 3.3 |
| 10:37.47 | wols | moshii: no it does not: g++-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.6-15) |
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| 10:38.10 | sharingos | I have an IDEA |
| 10:38.19 | efaistos | I have an amule version in testing but apparently it doesnt work .... any idea? I cant update the server names list |
| 10:38.21 | sharingos | g++ is not gcc doesn't? |
| 10:38.22 | moshii | wols: yes, g++3.3 bigger or equal to 3.3.6-15 |
| 10:38.25 | blahdeblah | Hi - anyone know if there's an IRC channel for ISC dhcpd? |
| 10:38.41 | petemc | blahdeblah: if you use it on debian, you can ask here |
| 10:38.43 | wols | moshii: g++ 4.0 is bigger |
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| 10:38.52 | Element14 | apt-get uprade on testing seems to be a minefield.... for every dozen packages i wnat ot upgrade there's one which says there's a serious bug (from apt-listbug) |
| 10:38.57 | wols | envsn: and why is liblame0 installed? |
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| 10:39.13 | wols | Element14: that'S why it's TESTING |
| 10:39.17 | envsn | wols: it's not |
| 10:39.25 | moshii | wols: but packaged as g++-4.x and doesn't provide anything to statisfy that dependency |
| 10:39.28 | jetscreamer | dammit wols i was gonna say that |
| 10:39.42 | jaggz- | if I have a list of files (in a file.txt), how do I make a package out of it? |
| 10:39.59 | envsn | check this: http://paste.debian.net/47138 |
| 10:39.59 | wols | moshii: so g++ 4.0 is not g++ >= 3.3? |
| 10:39.59 | Element14 | wols: yeah i know... |
| 10:40.00 | wols | moshii: interesting math |
| 10:40.08 | sharingos | uhm |
| 10:40.10 | jaggz- | they're already in their /paths/ |
| 10:40.49 | moshii | wols: not as far as dpkg is concerned, the two are different things, one is gcc-3.3 xxx and the other is g++-4.x xxx |
| 10:41.02 | jaggz- | also, how does checkinstall "watch" the files that are being installed? |
| 10:41.04 | wols | moshii: doh! |
| 10:41.08 | wols | mea culpa |
| 10:41.24 | wols | jaggz-: it creates a basic .deb. it doesn't do it. dpkg does |
| 10:41.25 | moshii | aren't there abi changes between 3.x and 4.x that'd fuck that up any how.. hence all the gcc versions in debian |
| 10:41.33 | karmatronic | efaistos: god of metal,i use amule re and it works |
| 10:41.43 | wols | moshii: yes, C++ ABI evilness |
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| 10:42.18 | jaggz- | how does dpkg do it? |
| 10:42.21 | envsn | ok |
| 10:42.23 | wols | sharingos: use gcc-3.3 to compiler. set CC and C++ |
| 10:42.25 | blahdeblah | petemc: Not on the server i'm having problems with - all my Debian dhcpds work fine. ;-) |
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| 10:42.31 | envsn | so I'm guessing no one here can help me out w/ this one |
| 10:42.35 | jaggz- | does it do an strace-type thing to look for all fopen()'s?? |
| 10:42.37 | sharingos | uhm |
| 10:42.39 | wols | jaggz-: by tracking each file in a DB |
| 10:42.45 | wols | jaggz-: no |
| 10:42.48 | themill | jaggz-: yes/ |
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| 10:42.58 | wols | envsn: do what dpkg told you |
| 10:43.04 | sharingos | I think that I have to isntall g++ 3.3 |
| 10:43.11 | moshii | sharingos: you should ask whoever made it not to put silly stuff in the makefile |
| 10:43.12 | karmatronic | envsn: what s your error message ? |
| 10:43.13 | sharingos | do you know the exact name of this package? |
| 10:43.28 | sharingos | apt-get install what? |
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| 10:43.32 | wols | !tell sharingos about search |
| 10:43.37 | wols | sharingos: finally learn about it! |
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| 10:43.45 | sharingos | apt-cache search too files |
| 10:43.46 | jaggz- | sharingos, look on packages.debian.org .. I recently had to also install an older gcc |
| 10:43.46 | sharingos | .. |
| 10:43.48 | themill | wols, jaggz-: checkinstall does an equivalent of strace (it highjacks libc to trace file copies); dpkg uses a database to track things and you politely tell it what you're doing. |
| 10:43.53 | petemc | blahdeblah: oh, well i suspect theres no dhcpd specific channel |
| 10:44.06 | blahdeblah | There doesn't seem to be on freenode... |
| 10:44.28 | themill | wols, jaggz-: I think you were answering different questions... sometimes irc needs an RTS/CTS flag.... |
| 10:44.31 | jaggz- | maybe it's irc.dhcpd.org :D |
| 10:44.39 | jaggz- | lol mill |
| 10:44.41 | sharingos | found |
| 10:44.42 | wols | blahdeblah: what distro do you run on the dhcpd problem server? |
| 10:44.45 | envsn | wols: I don't know wha tyou're talking about, dpkg didn't tell me anything |
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| 10:44.51 | jaggz- | good point |
| 10:44.51 | blahdeblah | wols: SLES |
| 10:44.56 | envsn | karmatronic: http://paste.debian.net/47138 |
| 10:44.56 | jaggz- | maybe xml-irc |
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| 10:45.02 | blahdeblah | Not that it think the distro makes any difference. |
| 10:45.05 | wols | !tell envsn about bat |
| 10:45.06 | jaggz- | </checkinstall-file-tracking> |
| 10:45.11 | wols | blahdeblah: then ask #suse? |
| 10:45.36 | envsn | I already did that |
| 10:45.38 | envsn | http://paste.debian.net/47138 |
| 10:45.38 | wols | and doesn't SLES have support by novell? |
| 10:45.40 | themill | jaggz-: heh |
| 10:45.45 | blahdeblah | Yeah, except its really an ISC dhcpd-specific question and the distro doesn't affect it |
| 10:45.45 | jaggz- | okay, so then back to <create-deb-from-file-list-question> |
| 10:45.46 | envsn | do you need more info? |
| 10:46.01 | blahdeblah | wols: You've obviously never tried to call Novell support... ;-) |
| 10:46.16 | jaggz- | this is an easy web search probably.. n/m |
| 10:46.17 | moshii | blahdeblah: I don't think #debian is really the place you want to be |
| 10:46.19 | wols | no, I rather stay with debian. I want quality software, not sellouts : |
| 10:46.21 | wols | :P |
| 10:46.27 | moshii | blahdeblah: maybe google.com? |
| 10:46.28 | themill | jaggz-: the new maintainers guide will help you with that. /msg dpkg nmg |
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| 10:46.36 | blahdeblah | moshii: been there, googled that |
| 10:46.49 | Penix | blahdeblah: if they can't offer the support you pay for, don't buy their stuff |
| 10:47.02 | envsn | ok |
| 10:47.03 | blahdeblah | Penix: Who said i bought it? |
| 10:47.05 | envsn | i fixed it |
| 10:47.14 | Penix | there we go then. #suse it is |
| 10:47.18 | moshii | blahdeblah: if you can't find it on google, why presume the nice people of #debian know? |
| 10:47.24 | dimir | Morning! |
| 10:47.44 | moshii | blahdeblah: if it's not on the google, it doesn't exist ;) |
| 10:47.46 | blahdeblah | moshii: Because of their higher than average knowledge of all things Linuxy? ;-) |
| 10:47.58 | wols | !suse |
| 10:47.58 | dpkg | suse is probably a linux distribution that can be found at http://www.suse.com, or german, open source, *nix. . . you do the math. the root of all that is wrong and evil, or #suse, or see http://www.omahns-home.co.uk/downloads/sles9.png |
| 10:48.02 | themill | jaggz-: dh_install will take the files from an "install" file which maps source files to a target filesystem. Else, use a script to copy the files into a directory and use dpkg-deb to build the archive. |
| 10:48.13 | blahdeblah | Penix - let me try that emphasis again: "who said *I* bought it" :-) |
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| 10:48.29 | blahdeblah | Anyway i'll stop annoying the nice people of #debian now. Thanks guys. |
| 10:48.32 | petemc | blahdeblah: http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/dhcp/dhcp-lists.php |
| 10:48.33 | Penix | I could still say the same thing |
| 10:48.47 | wols | blahdeblah: you've been told where to look for help now long enough. we already established here is not that place. thank you |
| 10:48.54 | jaggz- | thanks |
| 10:48.57 | sharingos | Hi |
| 10:48.58 | Penix | if you don't buy an enterprise edition piece of software, deal with it yourself |
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| 10:49.12 | sharingos | doesn't exists build essential of version 3.3? |
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| 10:49.22 | wols | sharingos: no |
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| 10:49.30 | moshii | themill: I thought dh_install just ran make install in a safe way within and dh_make'd tree? |
| 10:49.31 | wols | sharingos: and it'S not necessary either |
| 10:49.36 | Penix | sharingos: install gcc 3.3 and tell <foo> to use it |
| 10:49.47 | sharingos | uhm |
| 10:49.53 | wols | Penix: won't help when he needs g++ 3.3 |
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| 10:50.13 | wols | Penix: and he's too lazy to read the search factoid that's been given him several times by now |
| 10:50.23 | moshii | sharingos: you could always de-break that code so that it'll build proper.. |
| 10:50.26 | Penix | ah. shouldn't have bothered as usual ;) |
| 10:50.29 | efaistos | karmatronic: it works well ? are you in lenny ? |
| 10:50.43 | sharingos | uhm |
| 10:50.51 | sharingos | I have installed gcc 3.3 |
| 10:50.56 | sharingos | but it doesnt' works!! |
| 10:51.03 | sharingos | apt-get install gcc-3.3 |
| 10:51.09 | wols | !enter |
| 10:51.09 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 10:51.15 | moshii | sharingos: you're building cpp code no? |
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| 10:51.32 | sharingos | If I do: apt-get install build essential it updates gcc to version 4.x too |
| 10:51.37 | sharingos | yes |
| 10:51.44 | moshii | shingouz: you need g++, you also need to tell the build system to use g++-3.3 instead of the default one |
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| 10:51.52 | sharingos | uhm |
| 10:51.58 | sharingos | yes but installing gcc |
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| 10:52.07 | sharingos | sorry |
| 10:52.10 | themill | moshii: no. dh_install is generally run from the rules file to help copy across other crud that hasn't been copied by make install. Things like .desktop files are often installed like this. Sometimes make install is horribly broken so you use dh_install instead. |
| 10:52.10 | wols | moshii: he doesn't even have g++ 3.3 installed and is too lazy to foolow !search |
| 10:52.29 | moshii | shingouz: the multiple versions of gcc/g++ can live and play in the same environment fine, you have to tell you code if you want to build with a different compiler |
| 10:52.34 | wols | sharingos: gcc and g++ are two different compiler packages. different compilers |
| 10:52.44 | sharingos | I have not undestood why if I type gcc it doesn't find it even if I have installed it |
| 10:53.07 | wols | cause gcc is a symlink. and your constant installing and removing gcc packages BROKE it |
| 10:53.07 | sharingos | ah ok |
| 10:53.15 | sharingos | then to compile a cpp code |
| 10:53.17 | themill | shingouz: are you running debian or ubuntu? |
| 10:53.23 | sharingos | I have to use g++ instead of gcc? |
| 10:53.35 | moshii | theroue: yeah, just read the man page now.. dh_make is too clever, never needed to really read the docs for it |
| 10:53.39 | wols | themill, moshii: don't abuse poor shingouz :) |
| 10:54.08 | moshii | themill: see above, bad tab completion ;) |
| 10:54.18 | sharingos | debian |
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| 10:54.20 | themill | sharingos: if you want g++ then I'd try running g++ not gcc. I'd also consider installing gcc-doc (from non-free) and reading info g++ ... |
| 10:54.29 | jaggz- | basically, I have files I installed v x.1-0-1 of, and I messed up -- it's supposed to be x.1-0 .. so I'd like to satisfy the broken dependencies of x.1-0 |
| 10:55.00 | sharingos | If I do: apt-get install build-essential.. why it wants install the newest version of g++ and gcc????? |
| 10:55.07 | jaggz- | (there is no real x.1-0 in existence anymore, just x.1-0-1) |
| 10:55.10 | sharingos | I want build-essential only :/ |
| 10:55.22 | wols | jaggz-: the proper way is to rebuild the package with correct version. the cheap workaround is using something like equivs |
| 10:55.31 | moshii | sharingos: because it depends on that to create an complete build environment |
| 10:55.40 | sharingos | yes |
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| 10:55.45 | wols | sharingos: cause those are the proper dependencies of build-essential and you lack them |
| 10:55.52 | moshii | sharingos: build-essential doesn't actually contain *anything* |
| 10:55.53 | sharingos | but I have gcc and g++ boh |
| 10:55.59 | sharingos | *both at version 3.3 |
| 10:56.07 | wols | moshii: don't rhetorical questions it confuses him |
| 10:56.14 | jaggz- | you might need to get an older build-essential which uses 3.3 then? |
| 10:56.20 | sharingos | moshii: ok, but if I do apt-get it wants install them |
| 10:56.21 | themill | sharingos: any code that doesn't compile under g++-4.x but does compile under g++-3.3 is buggy and should be fixed. |
| 10:56.27 | wols | sharingos: but gcc 3.3 is not the right dependency for build-essential and totally irrelevant in your case |
| 10:56.27 | krzychu | folks, in vim when in 'insert mode' I press cursor keys ... instead of moving cursor I see single letters :/ anyone know how to turn off this? |
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| 10:56.39 | moshii | sharingos: yes, you can have both 3.3 and 4.x without any problems |
| 10:56.41 | wols | themill: I doubt he has the knowledge to do so |
| 10:56.49 | Penix | krzychu: ask #vim |
| 10:56.54 | sharingos | uhm |
| 10:56.55 | jaggz- | wols, I'm looking for cheap.. this is just to get my system in line for now.. I'll be doing a full install of 4.0 sometime in the future -- just have to get this system working again so I can get some development done |
| 10:56.56 | sharingos | ok |
| 10:57.03 | themill | krzychu: you are running in vi mode not vi mode. |
| 10:57.04 | wols | jaggz-: cheap is equivs |
| 10:57.24 | themill | krzychu: You need to create a .vimrc file and run it as vim not vi. That should solve the problem. |
| 10:57.40 | jaggz- | going to get it.. thanks :) |
| 10:57.43 | moshii | themill: its a broken make that's refering to some external object instead of checking library dependencies properly |
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| 10:58.25 | jaggz- | vi mode doesn't take cursor keys? :/ |
| 10:58.31 | themill | moshii: so it's a buggy makefile *and* buggy C++ code. Lovely. |
| 10:58.39 | themill | jaggz-: not in insert mode. |
| 10:58.41 | sharingos | thanks for the advice |
| 10:58.43 | sharingos | *advices |
| 10:58.44 | krzychu | themill thanks :D with vim everything works great :-D |
| 10:58.47 | jaggz- | fine some C/C++ code that's NOT buggy |
| 10:58.50 | sharingos | I have solved |
| 10:58.53 | sharingos | :)) |
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| 10:59.16 | themill | krzychu: I have "alias vi=vim" in my ~/.bash_profile to solve this problem permanently... :) |
| 10:59.29 | efaistos | some amule users ? I cant download the server.met file with the little button with the arrow ... any idea ? |
| 10:59.30 | jaggz- | sharing, advice is singular and plural I think :) |
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| 10:59.55 | themill | jaggz-: tab-completion not working well for you today at all, I see ;) |
| 10:59.58 | jaggz- | your hand bone's connected to your, arm bone.. |
| 11:00.11 | jaggz- | themill, lol |
| 11:00.19 | jaggz- | not in the habit of using it in chat.. good point.. I should be. |
| 11:00.27 | jaggz- | I think I don't like sticking colons after everyone's name.. |
| 11:00.31 | BarbaraSalesch | is there a way using the command $ sudo aptitude download mplayer-nogui to dowload the pependencies also ? |
| 11:00.37 | BarbaraSalesch | depend. |
| 11:00.46 | themill | jaggz-: most clients do it for you automagically. |
| 11:01.40 | themill | helps keep track of conversations on a busy channel (and this doesn't count as busy for #d... it gets much busier over the US summer) |
| 11:01.42 | wols | BarbaraSalesch: aptitude install mplayer-nogui and the dependencies will be downloaded |
| 11:01.44 | jaggz- | themill: yeah.. and it puts this colon. I prefer commas I think |
| 11:02.09 | jaggz- | no matter.. I'm just anal I guess ;) |
| 11:02.33 | BarbaraSalesch | i have the package already installed , but i was wanting it seperatly with depends. for another use |
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| 11:02.54 | wols | you already have them. /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 11:02.59 | themill | jaggz-: The comma would often be syntactically correct, but often not. Think scripts for a play or film for the use of the colon... |
| 11:03.16 | themill | !tell BarbaraSalesch about apt-zip |
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| 11:03.40 | wols | yes that's probably a better solution for there. dependencies are always machine specific |
| 11:04.05 | themill | heh... I'm just making my usual wild guesses about what someone is *really* trying to do.... |
| 11:04.08 | ShredZ | I have a system with hot-pluggable hard drives in raid 1, one failed so I replaced it, can I force debian to resync the new drive ? |
| 11:04.08 | themill | !xyproblem |
| 11:04.09 | dpkg | [xy problem] that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are looking too closely at a problem: they have got stuck at a particular point (Y) doing something (X) and so ask about step Y, not realising that there is an easier or better way to do X in the first place. See http://wooledge.org/mywiki/XyProblem and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem |
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| 11:05.14 | moshii | ShredZ: add the drive to the array and it'll rebuild onto it |
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| 11:05.43 | moshii | ShredZ: I'm guessing you're using the kernels md stuff here.. |
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| 11:06.03 | ShredZ | moshii, it's not a software raid |
| 11:06.32 | moshii | ShredZ: Well, that'll depend on what your card does then |
| 11:06.38 | liable | so much good info left with the departure of greycat |
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| 11:07.03 | themill | liable: ? |
| 11:07.14 | moshii | liable: where did he go? |
| 11:07.36 | sharingos | make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/asm-i386/errno.h', needed by `C LOCK_GENERATOR.o'. Stop. |
| 11:07.47 | sharingos | asm-i386 |
| 11:08.04 | sharingos | I have try in packages.debian.org |
| 11:08.16 | sharingos | but I have not find result |
| 11:08.17 | sharingos | :( |
| 11:08.21 | themill | sharingos: apt-file search include/asm-i386/errno.h |
| 11:08.22 | sharingos | any solution? |
| 11:08.42 | sharingos | nothing |
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| 11:08.50 | themill | sharingos: bollox |
| 11:09.04 | ShredZ | moshii, so if the controller handles all this and linux only sees 1 disk, what would one do (preferably avoiding a reboot) ? |
| 11:09.30 | liable | themill: the dude who owns wooledge.org |
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| 11:09.35 | themill | sharingos: your program is also looking in the wrong place for headers, and it's using headers that it probably shouldn't be using if it's a user-space program. WTF is this thing that you're compiling? |
| 11:09.49 | moshii | ShredZ: shouldn' the controller just rebuild automagically then? |
| 11:09.50 | liable | moshii: mostly just #bash afaik |
| 11:10.00 | Whitman | Can I use grep with tail -f? I only want to see certain lines from logs. |
| 11:10.00 | themill | liable: yes, I know that much... we've met on #d-ot and cross swords on #bash.... |
| 11:10.23 | ShredZ | moshii, that's what I thought, but I assume there's no way to check this from linux then ? |
| 11:10.26 | liable | themill: so why the ? |
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| 11:10.39 | kjs | Is sarge currently still supported? |
| 11:10.43 | themill | Whitman: try it.... "tail -f logfile.txt | grep foobar" and be pleasantly surprised |
| 11:10.48 | liable | kjs: atm, yes |
| 11:10.57 | themill | liable: wondering what you meant by "left" and that we lost information |
| 11:10.59 | sharingos | uhm |
| 11:11.04 | moshii | ShredZ: depends if there are tools/support for it.. check dmesg, your driver might pump some info out |
| 11:11.19 | sharingos | themill is a thing very complex |
| 11:11.21 | sharingos | systemc code |
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| 11:11.43 | sharingos | with an iss that is the client |
| 11:11.50 | sharingos | wirless sensor networks simulation |
| 11:11.57 | astronaute | can anyone tell me where to configure stdout and stderr logs on tomcat 5.5 please ? |
| 11:12.03 | Whitman | themill, thanks, I feel silly now. Was sure I had read somewhere that using it like that didn't work. |
| 11:12.13 | liable | themill: he was a regular here for a long time, and left due to some changes in the way some ops decided to run the channel. My personal opinion is that he was a wealth of information, but didn't tolerate fools |
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| 11:12.58 | BarbaraSalesch | in /var/cache/archives are the packages already set with depends or are they also scattered around there ? |
| 11:12.58 | liable | themill: when you call ops, the ':(' is where his name used to be |
| 11:13.05 | moshii | sharingos: complex and broken (not very portable) |
| 11:13.16 | sharingos | yes :D |
| 11:13.17 | BarbaraSalesch | are the deps scattereed |
| 11:13.19 | BarbaraSalesch | ? |
| 11:13.26 | sharingos | however do you know where could I find it? |
| 11:14.03 | themill | liable: Ahh. He knows his stuff, but he's often overly blunt. He has a little flamey fan-club on #bash and seems happy there... If #bash is what #d used to be like then I can see why there was a desire for a change of culture. |
| 11:14.13 | moshii | sharingos: looks like it's looking for kernel headers.. |
| 11:14.59 | sharingos | yes |
| 11:15.02 | moshii | sharingos: i386 assembly pieces.. eek |
| 11:15.02 | sharingos | kernel headers |
| 11:15.51 | themill | sharingos: apt-file search include/asm-i386/errno.h |
| 11:15.59 | kjs | if i am going to rsync one box to another, what sort of dir's should I exclude? /proc ? |
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| 11:16.12 | themill | sharingos: seriously... start to pay attention to what people are saying to you here. |
| 11:16.45 | sharingos | uhm |
| 11:16.46 | moshii | themill: to be honest, I don't think that things ever going to build properly |
| 11:17.00 | themill | nod |
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| 11:17.11 | sharingos | themill apt-file search include/asm-i386/errno.h -> no answer |
| 11:17.26 | themill | sharingos: have you ever run apt-file update? |
| 11:17.32 | sharingos | yes |
| 11:17.35 | liable | themill: #debian wasn't quite as bad as #bash, but it was quite blunt, and seemed more interesting in the quality department back when he and others were around. |
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| 11:18.13 | themill | sharingos: could you please paste the exact command that you ran? |
| 11:18.17 | sharingos | ah noooo |
| 11:18.21 | sharingos | now I have find it |
| 11:18.22 | sharingos | :))) |
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| 11:18.43 | liable | themill: it certainly was more fun than answering questions about sources.list 10 times a day.. |
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| 11:19.06 | sharingos | it says me: kakashi:/usr/include# apt-file search include/asm-i386/errno.h |
| 11:19.07 | sharingos | libklibc-dev: usr/lib/klibc/include/asm-i386/errno.h |
| 11:19.07 | sharingos | linux-headers-2.6.18-5: usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5/include/asm-i386/errno.h |
| 11:19.20 | sharingos | then I have to do: apt-get install libklibc-dev? |
| 11:19.47 | liable | headers i would imagine |
| 11:20.02 | sharingos | ok |
| 11:20.13 | moshii | sharingos: the problem is that somewhere in that sources it's looking /usr/src/include/asm-i386 |
| 11:20.20 | themill | liable: heh |
| 11:20.28 | moshii | sharingos: which shouldn't ever really exists.. |
| 11:20.29 | sharingos | yes but maybe it is correct |
| 11:20.30 | wols | sharingos: no, not libklibc-dev please look more carefully |
| 11:20.52 | sharingos | moshii: my prof has now tell me that this code is a work of years |
| 11:20.54 | moshii | sharingos: also wtf is it doing if it needs have kernel headers.. |
| 11:21.03 | wols | sharingos: no it'S not correct. whoever wrote this software did a very bad job |
| 11:21.10 | sharingos | uhm ok |
| 11:21.16 | sharingos | my prof sucks then :D |
| 11:21.28 | wols | he does. no clue about writing and packaging software |
| 11:21.29 | moshii | sharingos: probably on the same machine with lots of hand-crated bits of bustedness |
| 11:21.56 | wols | I'm sure it all works fine on his machine but it's not suitable for distribution |
| 11:21.57 | moshii | s/hand-crated/hand-crafted/ |
| 11:22.11 | sharingos | ok |
| 11:22.22 | sharingos | understood |
| 11:22.23 | sharingos | :) |
| 11:23.00 | liable | you can always link /src to /build |
| 11:23.43 | liable | if its after erno.h, and its in headers, but its looking for src, just link src to where the headers are also |
| 11:23.50 | sharingos | I have installed the headers but nothing |
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| 11:24.35 | liable | though then you'll prolly just another error later in the build |
| 11:24.42 | themill | !nothing |
| 11:24.42 | dpkg | [nothing] the most important thing ever. |
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| 11:25.09 | liable | sounds like it wants a fully configured and made kernel source |
| 11:25.28 | themill | most likely... |
| 11:25.41 | riftman | Hi, how can I change the language of the system after it has been installed |
| 11:25.47 | themill | liable: /usr/src/linux/ ftw ... |
| 11:26.20 | themill | !tell riftman about locales |
| 11:26.32 | liable | install the source, copy config, make prepare |
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| 11:27.41 | moshii | sharingos: ask your lecturer for some binaries.. |
| 11:27.55 | liable | thats cheating |
| 11:28.18 | moshii | I'm guessing the source won't even build against a modern kernel tree too.. |
| 11:28.25 | wols | liable: alternatively he could ask for some non broken source |
| 11:28.28 | themill | no, ask him to compile on a machine other than his own and under a different distro |
| 11:28.58 | liable | wols: or fix it. i am guessing this is some kind of computer class.. |
| 11:29.07 | themill | !homework |
| 11:29.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, homework is something you should do yourself |
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| 11:29.48 | moshii | One of my lecturers was a dd.. if you're source didn't compile, you failed |
| 11:29.58 | moshii | s/you're/your |
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| 11:30.05 | themill | moshii: heh... your grade is "FTBFS" |
| 11:30.18 | DawnLight | hello. i want a crazy graphical effects window manager so i'm trying compiz but... the etch compiz just freezes my X so i can't use that. the bpo compiz needs a newer nvidia driver than the etch one but that, in turn requires a newer X! so i don't know what to do. |
| 11:30.58 | liable | DawnLight: give up. thats what most sane people do when they try and get compiz working on debian |
| 11:31.06 | wols | liable: you've seen him here. I doubt he can fix it on his own |
| 11:31.28 | moshii | liable: compiz works, It just makes your computer feel 1000x slower |
| 11:31.28 | liable | unfortunately, debian really doesn't seem to care about compiz |
| 11:31.49 | wols | DawnLight: while the newer nvidia does say it needs a newer X, it lies |
| 11:32.00 | DawnLight | but i want compiz.... /me weeps! |
| 11:32.09 | liable | moshii: i used it ages ago with xgl which I had to compile the whole damn xserver, and it was as snappy as normal x |
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| 11:32.13 | DawnLight | wols: so there is hope! |
| 11:32.15 | wols | DawnLight: you can backport it yourself adjusting the depencncies and install 10x.x nvidia on etch fine |
| 11:32.36 | wols | DawnLight: I wouldn't say there is: etch has an old compiz version and lacks ccsm or similar |
| 11:32.41 | liable | moshii: but i got sick of compiling it everytime x libs changed |
| 11:32.48 | themill | liable: well, when compiz knows what compiz is, *then* debian might care about it... |
| 11:33.03 | moshii | liable: pretty easy to get going under sid.. just not as stable as you would like a window manager sort of thing to be |
| 11:33.27 | liable | themill: not really, its been working fairly well on several distros for around a year now |
| 11:33.32 | DawnLight | wols: i've some experience with backporting but never dealt with the source myself. always apt-get -b source. so i don't know how to build a debian source |
| 11:33.55 | moshii | I like having to find another machine to ssh in with to restart compiz because it's died and left me in the shit |
| 11:34.34 | liable | you could always press the button.. |
| 11:34.37 | DawnLight | perhaps i should wait until lenny is stable for compiz... |
| 11:35.07 | moshii | DawnLight: if you want compiz, you probably want a newer version of it than is in etch anyhow |
| 11:35.30 | DawnLight | moshii: it backports easily |
| 11:35.44 | liable | backport it then |
| 11:35.57 | DawnLight | and there is a backport already |
| 11:36.04 | moshii | uupdate would probably be able to do it.. |
| 11:36.20 | moshii | but you also want a newer xorg and kernel/drivers for your shiney hardware |
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| 11:36.40 | liable | DawnLight: the problem with that, is that you will inevitably end up with dependancy hell at some point in time |
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| 11:37.21 | liable | although on etch, your likely safe |
| 11:37.21 | up365 | DawnLight,might find some help here http://shame.tuxfamily.org/repo/ |
| 11:37.31 | liable | safer* |
| 11:37.54 | wols | DawnLight: apt-get source <stuff> and then dpkg-buildpackage |
| 11:38.01 | up365 | DawnLight, beryl is very stable on etch |
| 11:38.12 | wols | but you need to edit the dependencies first before dpkg-buildpackackage this time |
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| 11:38.21 | DawnLight | up365: it is?? wow, thanks. i'm going to try it |
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| 11:39.07 | DawnLight | what are oaps? |
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| 11:39.10 | LoneTech | I thought it didn't, but had its own compositing. |
| 11:39.21 | up365 | DawnLight, I have Beryl on etch helped from here http://lunapark6.com/debian-40-etch.html |
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| 11:39.32 | moshii | old age pensioner |
| 11:40.07 | themill | moshii: hey.... be nice about campers..... |
| 11:40.52 | liable | hippy? |
| 11:41.05 | moshii | thinking about campers.. makes me want to go back to the uk. boohoo |
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| 11:41.13 | liable | pikey! |
| 11:42.17 | themill | liable: working on it... but mrs themill and I are a bit young to really count as hippies. I did want a vw bus but they're overpriced. |
| 11:42.30 | liable | combi? |
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| 11:42.57 | themill | yeah... that's what I wanted. With a big purple flower on the side or some such... |
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| 11:43.29 | jelly | themill: and a lsd lab inside? |
| 11:43.34 | moshii | s/Japan/Japanese |
| 11:43.38 | liable | i used to work out of a combi, the gear stick had about two feet of play in it, no lie |
| 11:43.55 | themill | hmmm... |
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| 11:44.31 | liable | though the length of the thing makes it more noticable |
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| 11:47.59 | moshii | alinux-lb22: I think you can disable caching in the config fairly easilly.. |
| 11:48.17 | moshii | s/easilly/easily/.. |
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| 11:48.52 | alinux-lb22 | moshii, so lets say I do so..at that time squid will not write anymore files to my hdd right ? |
| 11:49.00 | Thanatermesis | !seen stew |
| 11:49.00 | dpkg | stew <i=1413@unaffiliated/stew> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 10h 6m 44s ago, saying: 'bwwww: then key="volume.fstype" might not be matching'. |
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| 11:49.39 | moshii | alinux-lb22: if you disable caching it won't cache anything.. it might write locks and stuff though |
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| 11:54.06 | jaggz- | hmm.. how do I get rsync to copy full paths, like /full/path to dest:/backup/ so it creates "dest:/backup/full/path/" instead of just "dest:/backup/path/" |
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| 12:04.15 | jaggz- | ah, -R |
| 12:04.41 | BarbaraSalesch | !paste |
| 12:04.41 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
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| 12:06.28 | themill | dpkg: wb |
| 12:06.29 | dpkg | thanks, themill. It's good to be back. |
| 12:07.43 | jaggz- | okay.. gonna go let this finish backing up |
| 12:07.50 | jaggz- | oh |
| 12:07.59 | jaggz- | when is a new debian due to come out? |
| 12:08.22 | themill | !when will lenny release |
| 12:08.22 | dpkg | Lenny will release WIR; SIYH. Ask me about <lenny pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. |
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| 12:09.58 | jaggz- | !wir |
| 12:09.58 | dpkg | [wir] When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 12:10.09 | nios | hey, my crontab doesnt seems to work, anything wrong 1 * * * * mkdir /home/nios/test |
| 12:10.28 | jaggz- | hmm.. did apt-spy give me some unusable repositories? W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirror.peer1.net stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.peer1.net_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 12:10.35 | jaggz- | trying to install apache1.3 |
| 12:10.45 | jaggz- | nios, when do you want that to be done? |
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| 12:10.58 | themill | jaggz-: did you aptitude update after changing your sources.list? |
| 12:10.58 | nios | jaggz-: just seems if works like mkdir |
| 12:11.10 | jaggz- | mill, no |
| 12:11.32 | jaggz- | nios, what? |
| 12:11.38 | nios | mkdir hello_world |
| 12:11.46 | moshii | nios: you need to explain what you mean by doesn't work |
| 12:11.56 | nios | it doesnt mkdir |
| 12:12.08 | nios | what more to say |
| 12:12.11 | moshii | and unless you changed something you should get a mail with the output.. and why it failed |
| 12:12.21 | jaggz- | did you see the error output? |
| 12:12.32 | nios | nah where to find the output error? |
| 12:12.33 | jaggz- | is this your personal user crontab (crontab -e) or /etc/crontab, or.. |
| 12:12.57 | nios | i got in crontab -e 1 * * * * mkdir /home/nios/test |
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| 12:13.06 | nios | and i can see it with crontab -l |
| 12:13.13 | jaggz- | okay, and did you wait until the first minute of the hour? |
| 12:13.22 | nios | ah |
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| 12:13.28 | nios | isnt it every 1 minut |
| 12:13.34 | moshii | nios: you need */1 iirc |
| 12:13.39 | jaggz- | * * * * * |
| 12:13.42 | kunsi | */1 == * |
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| 12:14.09 | moshii | kunsi: I was trying to show the format of these things ;) |
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| 12:14.30 | nios | oki |
| 12:14.39 | jaggz- | */5 * * * * echo 'Every 5 minutes' > /dev/console |
| 12:14.41 | Element14 | i purged my gconf and all the speed problems in gtk went away :-/ |
| 12:14.53 | Element14 | s/gconf/.gconf\// |
| 12:14.57 | jaggz- | nios: man 5 crontab |
| 12:15.32 | jaggz- | "further detail is beyond the scope of this text and is left as an exercise to the reader" |
| 12:16.12 | jaggz- | how did you purge your gconf, element? |
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| 12:17.25 | nios | works fine now ;) |
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| 12:22.35 | jaggz- | I wish I could use berkeley XML db.. |
| 12:22.55 | jaggz- | just because the heiarchial db structure seems so much more .. real.. than tables. |
| 12:22.59 | jaggz- | I mean, who in the world has a table anyway? |
| 12:23.02 | jaggz- | noone has tables |
| 12:23.31 | jaggz- | everyone has desks with drawers, containers on top of the surface, etc. |
| 12:23.34 | jaggz- | tables are so.. wrong. |
| 12:23.37 | jaggz- | I hate tables. |
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| 12:23.55 | jaggz- | </frustration> |
| 12:24.15 | jaggz- | bahadunn |
| 12:24.45 | Penix | that's it. vent |
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| 12:26.01 | jaggz- | lol |
| 12:26.21 | war9407 | how do I get the stats of a package? |
| 12:26.24 | war9407 | ?lenny mailgraph |
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| 12:26.37 | war9407 | mailgraph used to be in testing |
| 12:26.41 | war9407 | but it has disappeared |
| 12:26.43 | Penix | war9407: dpkg -s |
| 12:26.48 | war9407 | dpkg -s mailgraph |
| 12:26.48 | dpkg | Package: mailgraph: Status: install ok installed |
| 12:26.52 | Penix | heh |
| 12:26.53 | war9407 | dpkg -s mailgraph -t testing |
| 12:26.53 | dpkg | Package: mailgraph -t testing: Status: install ok installed |
| 12:27.04 | war9407 | i mean there is a !cmd for dpkg (IRC) that tells you the URL where to look |
| 12:27.16 | Penix | war9407: thought you meant something else. check p.d.o |
| 12:27.35 | liable | !why is mailgraph not in testing |
| 12:27.35 | dpkg | mailgraph is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=mailgraph |
| 12:27.41 | war9407 | bingo |
| 12:27.41 | war9407 | thanks! |
| 12:28.21 | themill | war9407: http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mailgraph/news/20071027T223920Z.html |
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| 12:29.33 | war9407 | oh my |
| 12:29.54 | war9407 | that's horrible |
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| 12:37.00 | wfq | hello |
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| 12:38.55 | Fangorn | hi |
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| 12:39.12 | teclo- | what is the command that gives "top" in colour with progress bars on the top ? |
| 12:39.19 | amphi | teclo-: htop |
| 12:39.24 | teclo- | amphi: thank you |
| 12:40.06 | wfq | my debian sarge threw up an error sayin zlib 1.2 could have a securit hole. I went through the http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/z/zlib/zlib_1.2.2-4.sarge.2/changelog#versionversion1:1.2.2-4.sarge.2 and it seems to be that http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-1849 |
| 12:40.58 | wfq | to be honest, I can not understand that fine. Does that mean this security hole is still remaining? |
| 12:41.25 | wfq | for that version of library of course? |
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| 12:42.16 | tombombadil | htop it's great :D |
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| 12:44.02 | amphi | wfq: FWIW, in stable, security fixes are backported to the version in stable, rather than bumping the version, if the fix is in a new upstream version |
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| 12:45.06 | wfq | amphi, I saw also sarge said the new version had been revised that error and it is now fixed but my repositories has not that package and I am not the administrator |
| 12:45.35 | moshii | wfq: any reason you're still running sarge? |
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| 12:46.06 | wfq | moshii, it is a server and I am not the administer nor the owner |
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| 12:46.13 | amphi | wfq: then there's not much you can do, other than prod the admin ;) |
| 12:46.25 | crashanddie | hey guys, how can I find out which PCI version is supported on my motherboard ? |
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| 12:46.49 | war9407 | crashanddie: the motherboard manual will tell you that |
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| 12:46.57 | wfq | amphi, I just wanted to make sure I am right and it is not possible to fix the error but installing the new version |
| 12:47.01 | moshii | wfq: it's just security support is going to end on sarge soonish |
| 12:47.04 | crashanddie | yeah but it's a pretty old computer, I wouldn't be asking if I had the manual would I ? |
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| 12:47.35 | moshii | crashanddie: I think there is some difference with the slots too isn't there? or was that voltage support.. |
| 12:48.02 | moshii | crashanddie: also it's your fault you don't have the manual/can't google to find a pdf of it so don't get pissy |
| 12:48.07 | crashanddie | moshii: I don't know, it might be a voltage issue, the thing is, I'm trying to get a pretty special PCI card to work, and it isn't even detected in lspci |
| 12:48.36 | moshii | crashanddie: doesn't the bios give a read out of the devices it can see at post? |
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| 12:48.55 | moshii | crashanddie: also check dmesg, it may say something about it |
| 12:49.07 | crashanddie | no, dmesg doesn't give any info... |
| 12:49.27 | crashanddie | I guess I have my answer though... If it doesn't show up, the PCI rev on the mobo must be too old :/ |
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| 12:50.38 | moshii | crashanddie: or it's not plugged in correctly.. or you have some irq/resources issue that is stopping the card from working |
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| 12:52.10 | jelly | crashanddie: a) what's so special about it? b) try a different slot, some motherboards are espically buggy |
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| 12:52.35 | jelly | s/spic/speci/ |
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| 12:55.09 | crashanddie | jelly: the card requires pci 2.2... I don't even know when that rev came out :/ |
| 12:55.27 | crashanddie | also, it has an external power supply |
| 12:55.43 | jelly | crashanddie: I won't suggest wikipedia or google. |
| 12:55.45 | jelly | oops |
| 12:55.53 | crashanddie | yeah |
| 12:55.58 | crashanddie | like I didn't try that :/ |
| 12:56.08 | crashanddie | anyway, thanks for your help, and what ever |
| 12:56.20 | moshii | crashanddie: have you tried using the smbios tools.. |
| 12:56.26 | moshii | oh, fuck it. |
| 12:57.43 | jelly | I don't see join/part messages, but figure it out by TAB not working |
| 12:58.18 | moshii | jelly: slow shell, was already typing, doing too many things at once |
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| 12:58.44 | enouf | jakub_: bingo |
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| 12:58.52 | enouf | er jelly |
| 12:58.59 | enouf | same here |
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| 12:59.23 | enouf | !seen cydork |
| 12:59.23 | dpkg | cydork <n=vihang@unaffiliated/cydork> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 42d 57m 54s ago, saying: '!newbie'. |
| 12:59.41 | enouf | forty two days .. wtf? |
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| 13:02.02 | x_link | enouf: Hi man! Long time no see =) |
| 13:02.07 | x_link | enouf: Everything okey? |
| 13:02.35 | amphi | enouf!!! |
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| 13:02.49 | enouf | amphi: !! |
| 13:03.01 | enouf | x_link: !!! |
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| 13:03.19 | liable | !aww |
| 13:03.20 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
| 13:03.33 | amphi | how goes the life of the curmudgeon? ;) |
| 13:03.45 | enouf | PCI revision 2.2; released 1998; minor clarifications / enhancements. <-- http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_PCI.html |
| 13:03.48 | wfq | what about if I have a version of a package which has a security hole and the next brach fixed? |
| 13:03.57 | enouf | how silly that kid was |
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| 13:04.16 | wfq | Could I download that package and the dependeces to upgrade my system? |
| 13:04.25 | enouf | amphi: not too shabby, and you? how's that fine-feathered friend? |
| 13:04.25 | wfq | what about mixing two different branches |
| 13:04.45 | jetscreamer | you can just d/l full dvd's and use those as sources |
| 13:04.55 | liable | wfq: its a bit like mixing drinks, not recommended |
| 13:05.03 | jetscreamer | sure i mix testing and sid all the time.. i wouldn't till later though if i was you |
| 13:05.17 | enouf | liable: didn't you and cydork used to date or something? |
| 13:05.38 | amphi | enouf: he went back to his own people - I still see him from time to time |
| 13:05.54 | liable | heh, if I wasn't full of beer right now, i would prolly !lart you ;) |
| 13:05.59 | enouf | liable: i had caught those greycat refs, reminded me, i hadn't seen cy in awhile |
| 13:06.12 | jetscreamer | if you don't have internet, who cares about the security hole? if you do, use security sources and update regularly? |
| 13:06.17 | enouf | amphi: well that's good then, yes? |
| 13:06.19 | liable | amphi: his own people? |
| 13:07.37 | jetscreamer | i miss mwilson's wit |
| 13:08.05 | enouf | doesn't he still bop in ? |
| 13:08.15 | liable | i sat on the fence for mwilson, but he was smart nontheless |
| 13:08.19 | liable | enouf: permaban |
| 13:08.27 | enouf | ahh, right |
| 13:08.52 | enouf | from entire network? ..well, he must be hanging somewhere :-P |
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| 13:09.06 | amphi | enouf: yes, excellent IMHO |
| 13:09.07 | liable | he was a cranky asshole, but did have good advise on occasions |
| 13:09.13 | jetscreamer | he's in #bash a lot iirc |
| 13:09.19 | liable | ya |
| 13:09.20 | amphi | liable: his crow family |
| 13:09.21 | jetscreamer | greycat is like god of #bash |
| 13:09.23 | enouf | amphi: sweet, good to hear |
| 13:09.25 | jetscreamer | or something |
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| 13:09.54 | liable | amphi: i'm lost, crow? like indian or something? |
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| 13:11.10 | amphi | liable: no; I rescued a young carrion crow earlier in the year; it thrived, and some time after it could fly well, it went back to the other crows |
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| 13:11.31 | enouf | liable: hint, fine-feathers :-P |
| 13:11.45 | liable | amphi: hah, i thought you were talking about cydork :) |
| 13:12.02 | amphi | heh |
| 13:12.36 | liable | i hate crows, smart birds as they are. fuckers sit in trees above my bedroom a "aaaaaark" every fucking morning |
| 13:12.56 | jetscreamer | pellet gun |
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| 13:13.09 | liable | feathers are too thick |
| 13:13.13 | Kevin` | eat yourself some bird |
| 13:13.22 | jetscreamer | not bb gun |
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| 13:13.28 | jetscreamer | a pump pellet rifle |
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| 13:13.51 | enouf | [06:19:02] <sharingos> my prof sucks then :D <--lmao |
| 13:14.00 | liable | they are damn smart too, see you with a gun, and they'll fly away, come out with a brrom stick acting as a gun and they'll "aaaaark" at you |
| 13:14.24 | jetscreamer | i won't teach you to hunt |
| 13:14.34 | liable | 22's dont even kill em |
| 13:14.38 | jetscreamer | least not over the internet |
| 13:14.45 | liable | bb gun has no fucking chance |
| 13:14.51 | enouf | heh |
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| 13:14.58 | Blackshell | Hello all |
| 13:15.23 | jetscreamer | you don't have to kill them |
| 13:15.30 | jetscreamer | just disturb them enough |
| 13:16.14 | liable | oh no, then they'll get all their mates and annoy the shit out of you |
| 13:16.37 | enouf | they were dino decendants though, they're like crocs/gators and las cucharachas :-P , ...aint going anywhere |
| 13:16.40 | liable | we had a shopping centre that had a crow in a cage that could talk |
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| 13:17.00 | jetscreamer | ok well i guess you'll just have to let the birds do you any which way they want :) |
| 13:17.29 | liable | they are without a doubt, smat fucking birds, you never see one dead on the side of the road, they'll watch you coming in a car and hop three steps away and watch you go past |
| 13:17.40 | liable | s/smat/smart/ |
| 13:17.54 | jetscreamer | coulda been a boston accent... |
| 13:17.58 | jetscreamer | smaaaht |
| 13:18.07 | liable | hah |
| 13:18.11 | enouf | must've been really noisy 65-300million yrs ago .. no wonder why there were no humans, we couldn't get any friggin sleep O.o |
| 13:18.36 | jetscreamer | we had to wait for the oil |
| 13:18.42 | liable | big problems in .jp apparently with them |
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| 13:19.46 | enouf | you got your rodents under control finally down there? |
| 13:20.10 | liable | which rodents? |
| 13:20.15 | enouf | mice |
| 13:20.43 | enouf | kangaroos aren't exactly foxes :-P |
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| 13:21.30 | enouf | nm |
| 13:21.38 | enouf | cheers |
| 13:22.00 | liable | did i mention mice recently, cause i just caught one yesterday actually |
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| 13:23.57 | enouf | wow, heh |
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| 13:24.14 | enouf | .22? rofl |
| 13:24.36 | liable | whats so funny about that? |
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| 13:24.56 | enouf | how'd you 'catch' it? |
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| 13:25.07 | enouf | with your rifle? |
| 13:25.14 | azeem | enouf, liable: why don't you continue in #debian-offtopic? |
| 13:25.17 | liable | mouse trap? |
| 13:25.24 | enouf | liable: figures |
| 13:25.48 | liable | azeem: be fair, the channel is dead atm |
| 13:26.04 | liable | and #ot sucks |
| 13:26.20 | azeem | maybe everybody left because they thought they were in the wrong chan :P |
| 13:26.29 | liable | heh |
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| 13:29.29 | liable | uncomfortable silence... |
| 13:29.35 | liable | ;) |
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| 13:30.19 | kgoetz | almost as if it was trrue... :O |
| 13:30.21 | kgoetz | ;) |
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| 13:30.48 | cisko | /dev/hdb1 on /media/160 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) |
| 13:31.07 | cisko | are those enough for samba to let write there? |
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| 13:31.43 | enouf | liable: last word about it, i forget if it was mice or rabbits that were a huge huge problem (not enough small meat eaters, like coyotes, foxes, etc) http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2647 |
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| 13:31.46 | kgoetz | no |
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| 13:31.57 | cisko | so samba canno't write there? |
| 13:32.18 | liable | enouf: rabitts, but there have been mice plagues at various times in the grain growing areas |
| 13:32.43 | kgoetz | cisko: configure samba to edit shares, the drive perms are mostly irrelevent (once its rw) |
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| 13:33.38 | enouf | liable: righto, thought so, as i'm not that offended, or bothered by too many rabbits, per se, but sure, they could dessimate massive amounts of vegetables being grown .. ok thanks |
| 13:33.49 | alinux-lb22 | dansguardian slows down my browsing alot when I use it ..I have searched a lot it seems a common issue with no solution ..anyone had this issue before ? |
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| 13:35.47 | enouf | is that a firewall? i use a router |
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| 13:36.26 | enouf | alinux-lb22: what does it do for you, perhaps it's time to learn iptables |
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| 13:37.15 | alinux-lb22 | enouf, dansguardian is a web content filter it filters p0rn ..etc etc..gambling sites |
| 13:37.17 | Merphy | hi every body |
| 13:37.23 | alinux-lb22 | enouf, iptables no good here. |
| 13:37.28 | gynterk | is there some analogue program on linux like Netstumbler on windows |
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| 13:37.35 | gynterk | basically wifi networks monitoring |
| 13:37.41 | enouf | alinux-lb22: oh, i see .. hrm |
| 13:37.51 | liable | gynterk: analogue? kismet for wifi sniffing |
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| 13:38.00 | Merphy | I want to set up local repo! guide me plz |
| 13:38.14 | liable | !own repo |
| 13:38.14 | dpkg | Custom-Package-Repository-HOWTO: [1, as root] apt-get install dpkg-dev; [2, as user] mkdir -p ~/public_html/foo; cd ~/public_html/foo; [3] cp /your/packages.deb .; [4] dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz; [5, as root] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./"; [OR, if no local web server set up] echo >> /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:///home/username/public_html/foo ./"; |
| 13:38.43 | Merphy | thanks |
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| 13:39.03 | enouf | alinux-lb22: this might sound silly, but being that the internet is over 50% porn, you might want to think about a few connections and brdige/bond/load balance them .. hrm |
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| 13:39.18 | Merphy | I want to local web server (writeable w-data) |
| 13:39.28 | gynterk | kismet, yes exactly |
| 13:39.32 | gynterk | thanks liable |
| 13:39.42 | liable | np |
| 13:40.08 | alinux-lb22 | enouf, this is for an internal company to prevent employess from ..bla bla bla |
| 13:40.09 | enouf | alinux-lb22: i mean, if dansguardian is open source, you can find out how it's doing what it's doing and track it that way .. though, i'm sure you're not a dev, and neither am i |
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| 13:40.18 | enouf | oh |
| 13:40.23 | liable | kismet shits on netstumbler too |
| 13:40.37 | alinux-lb22 | enouf, yeah no dev here.... |
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| 13:41.02 | enouf | so .. it;s acting as a proxy? have you tried ##networking? |
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| 13:41.12 | Merphy | I waant to it make available to others as well! |
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| 13:41.28 | mynullvoid | hello |
| 13:41.55 | mynullvoid | how do i check what app made that my desktop is filled by shortcut to my partition |
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| 13:42.41 | mynullvoid | such as |storage_serial_3KW4WKT5_1.desktop and others |
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| 13:43.11 | mynullvoid | the problem is that the shortcut is not correct, it can only show ext2 content only |
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| 13:44.29 | liable | mynullvoid: can you explain a little more verbosely? |
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| 13:44.44 | saintiss | hi all |
| 13:45.03 | saintiss | any reason why smbclient of a volume would work, but smbmount would give permission denied? |
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| 13:45.16 | saintiss | note that smbmount links to mount.cifs |
| 13:45.23 | enouf | alinux-lb22: also try ##linux maybe .. is that what christianubuntu uses? |
| 13:45.45 | mynullvoid | everytime I reboot my machine, i see a symlink to my partitions |
| 13:45.49 | liable | i see samba hasn't gotten any saner since the last time i used it. |
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| 13:46.16 | liable | mynullvoid: gnome? |
| 13:46.19 | mynullvoid | meaning that on my desktop I can see a file |storage_serial_3KW4WKT5_1.desktop |
| 13:46.26 | mynullvoid | liable: enlightenment |
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| 13:46.54 | cesar_CR | hi guys |
| 13:46.57 | mynullvoid | the symlink came from .e/e/fileman/favorites/.... |
| 13:47.07 | enouf | gynterk: airsnort-ng? |
| 13:47.20 | liable | mynullvoid: eh, i didn't think enlightenment would do such things |
| 13:47.31 | alinux-lb22 | enouf, really duno about chrisitianubuntu..but is a fine piece of software..but slow dunno why |
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| 13:47.46 | cesar_CR | any opinions about ntop vs nagios ??? |
| 13:47.48 | liable | mynullvoid: you have ivman installed? |
| 13:48.06 | enouf | alinux-lb22: dansguardian is? wel, sorry i can't really be of help |
| 13:49.01 | enouf | alinux-lb22: i mean, i nkow nothing about it really, suggest some email lists, usenet, googlegroups, etc, if you can't find anything on freenode, try other networks as well |
| 13:49.07 | mynullvoid | even with or without ivman, I got the same issue |
| 13:50.08 | liable | its prolly slow waiting for an omniprecient being that doesn't exist |
| 13:50.36 | enouf | mynullvoid: gnome-volume-manager? gnome-volume-p<something> ? |
| 13:51.04 | mynullvoid | enouf: how to know? |
| 13:51.23 | enouf | run those tools, actually, man gnome-<tab><tab> |
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| 13:51.48 | liable | man doesnt do tabs |
| 13:51.51 | JeremyTheKing | Exotics Adult Forum ::: http://exotics.heavenforum.com/index.htm ! |
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| 13:52.00 | enouf | mynullvoid: i don't have any gnome stuff installed (well maybe a few minor gtk things but) |
| 13:52.08 | enouf | liable: what? lol |
| 13:52.21 | enouf | liable: get with the proggie n00b ;-) |
| 13:52.35 | mynullvoid | enouf: I got gome-eject gnome-mount gnome-umount gnome-keyring-daemon gnome-open |
| 13:52.46 | yypanic | hi~~~ |
| 13:52.55 | mynullvoid | every time I delete the shortcut it will come back |
| 13:52.58 | enouf | liable: i hope you know about /etc/bash.bashrc and the last 3 lines (usually in) ~/.bashrc |
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| 13:53.20 | enouf | mynullvoid: is that all? |
| 13:53.21 | wiedenmann | How can I see the number of hardlinks pointing to a file? |
| 13:53.31 | mynullvoid | when I gnome-tab |
| 13:53.44 | liable | enouf: i have always resorted to apropos. and its shitted me |
| 13:53.48 | enouf | mynullvoid: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=gnome-volume-manager&btnG=Google+Search |
| 13:53.53 | mynullvoid | I am not using gnome, but I use enlightenment |
| 13:53.55 | enouf | liable: yikes |
| 13:54.05 | liable | exactly |
| 13:54.09 | enouf | liable: man update-<tab><tab> \o/ |
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| 13:54.37 | liable | i *do* feel like a newb |
| 13:55.16 | liable | though i have never actually looked for a workaround, i just used what i knew |
| 13:55.49 | enouf | wiedenmann: something like this, for f in `ls -i /bin/uncompress | cut -d' ' -f1`; do find /bin -inum $f; done |
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| 13:56.47 | vlt | Hello. I'm looking for a tool to do the following: Showing presentation slides in fullscreen while controlling audio playback independently. The slides are partially animated but I could convert that sequences to video before if neccessary. For audio playback I need a "skip" button that crossfades the next track in. The xfade duration should be editable (two global values for fade in and fade out are enough). Any idea? |
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| 13:56.52 | enouf | wiedenmann: that scope is narrow (note the "; do find /bin") , use find / to search all |
| 13:57.05 | wiedenmann | enouf: shouldnt be it possible to see the properties of an inode where the count of hardlinks is saved? |
| 13:57.24 | enouf | wiedenmann: if there is, you tell me ;-) |
| 13:57.28 | yypanic | vlt,you can use power point |
| 13:57.37 | enouf | wiedenmann: OH.. the count? |
| 13:57.38 | enouf | ok |
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| 13:57.43 | enouf | it's in ls -l output |
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| 13:58.21 | enouf | wiedenmann: see the 4 below? |
| 13:58.22 | enouf | $ ls -l /bin/uncompress |
| 13:58.22 | enouf | -rwxr-xr-x 4 root root 53984 2006-12-21 11:17 /bin/uncompress |
| 13:58.25 | liable | yypanic: i think he means a gnu program |
| 13:58.33 | enouf | wiedenmann: directly after the permissions |
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| 13:59.55 | enouf | wiedenmann: then if you run that prio command (the for loop) it will confirm that count on that particular filename/inode |
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| 14:00.25 | Rada | Ohai |
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| 14:00.59 | Rada | Can someone point me in the right direction for renaming or "creating an alias" for a network interface? I've tried some googling, but to no avail. |
| 14:01.35 | Rada | The problem is that I have an interface named bond0.103 and bond0.106 - but vmware-server only supports interface names 8 chars or shorter, and as you see, those two interfaces are 9 chars long. |
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| 14:01.48 | Rada | vmware doesn't have a fix for this issue, so I hoped to work around it. |
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| 14:02.18 | liable | what made bond0.106 et al? |
| 14:02.25 | Merphy | thank for your reply! but I want to copy all the pks from debain to my local system (also want to keep it updated wity debian) and to provide it as repo server (ports server) to people in my area |
| 14:02.34 | Rada | liable: first interface bonding, then vlan'ing. |
| 14:02.35 | liable | just do a ifconfig eth0:1 up |
| 14:03.00 | Rada | What would that do? |
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| 14:03.12 | liable | Rada: i have no clue what vmware does, but making aliases in debian is trivial |
| 14:03.16 | zignig | bleh! |
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| 14:03.36 | Rada | liable: Well, I mean, I need to access the interface bond0.106 by an other name. |
| 14:03.42 | liable | Rada: you need to ask vmware people i think |
| 14:03.48 | Rada | eth0 and eth1 are "slaves" to bond0.. |
| 14:04.11 | zignig | Rada: what was your question ? ( i do vmware and just joined ) |
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| 14:04.52 | Rada | zignig: My question is that I have an interface that is called bond0.106, but vmware doesn't support interface names over 8 chars long, so I hoped to "rename" the interface in debian so vmware can use it. |
| 14:05.09 | abrotman | ifrename |
| 14:05.24 | vlt | yypanic: On Debian? |
| 14:05.37 | zignig | why are you using a bonded interface on a vm? it's not like you have a real failover path for bonded interfaces. |
| 14:05.44 | abrotman | !info ifrename etch |
| 14:05.48 | dpkg | ifrename: (Rename network interfaces based on various static criteria), section net, is extra. Version: 28-1 (etch), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 104 kB |
| 14:05.52 | Rada | zignig: I do. |
| 14:06.00 | zignig | how? |
| 14:06.08 | Rada | zignig: Each interface is connected to a different network switch. Active failover. |
| 14:06.19 | zignig | in vmware or in the virtual |
| 14:06.22 | zignig | ?> |
| 14:06.24 | liable | i dunno if ifrename is the answer. making whatever the hell makes bond0, make a sane name would be a better start |
| 14:06.33 | Rada | zignig: On the vmware server, ie the host. |
| 14:06.53 | abrotman | it's an option perhaps |
| 14:07.05 | zignig | so... vmware has 2 interface that failover if they lose link ? |
| 14:07.41 | Rada | zignig: Yep. |
| 14:08.02 | zignig | the vSwitch with handle the path change smoothly. |
| 14:08.11 | Rada | zignig: Not "vmware". My real, physical hard-metal-and-plastic server has two interfaces :) |
| 14:08.40 | zignig | you are better having two virtual ethernet access ports ( rather than trunk ) on your vDebian box and just let vmware handle the frame path. |
| 14:08.47 | zignig | 2.5 or 3.0.X ? |
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| 14:09.03 | Rada | debian 4.0 |
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| 14:09.11 | enouf | heh |
| 14:10.01 | zignig | I came across this same problem last year, the bonded interface on a virtual machine just increases complexity. |
| 14:10.10 | AtoZ | Hi all... |
| 14:10.23 | Rada | Forget the virtual machines, for christ sakes... >_< |
| 14:10.34 | porkpie | hi guys .... I am trying to get a pptp server work but I get this message in the log when trying to connect in PTY read or GRE write failed (pty,gre)=(6,7) |
| 14:10.40 | xuser_ | !tell rada z25 |
| 14:10.51 | AtoZ | this sites indonesian debian community http://debian-id.org |
| 14:10.53 | vlt | liable: Yes, I don't know Power Point. Maybe I'm looking for two programs: One for the slides/videos part and one for playing back the audio tracks, but which I can control while the presentation program is in full screen mode ... |
| 14:11.01 | vlt | liable: Do you know such tools? |
| 14:11.03 | zignig | Rada: huh ? , you are asking a vmware question ? |
| 14:11.09 | xuser_ | !tell Rada z25 |
| 14:11.11 | Rada | zignig: No. No I'm not. |
| 14:11.17 | porkpie | I have run this test root@radius:/var/log# modprobe ppp-compress-18 && echo success |
| 14:11.17 | porkpie | success |
| 14:11.24 | xuser_ | hmmm |
| 14:11.33 | themill | xuser_: the syntax is: !tell <nick> about <factoid> |
| 14:11.41 | zignig | Rada: you are running debian as the vmware host ? |
| 14:11.46 | xuser_ | themill: thx :) |
| 14:12.05 | xuser_ | !tell Rada about z25 |
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| 14:12.23 | xuser_ | Rada: maybe that helps |
| 14:13.17 | Rada | zignig: Exactly. And the Debian real bare-metal server (not virtual) is having with proprietary-POS-software that the software doesn't support an interface name longer than 8 chars long (forget vmware at all... it's just "proprietary-POS-software" now). |
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| 14:13.39 | Rada | I'll look at xuser_'s suggestion. Thanks :) |
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| 14:15.10 | zignig | Rada: ah, ok. :) |
| 14:15.18 | zignig | Rada: mis understanding then . |
| 14:15.41 | Rada | np ;) sorry if I seemed like an asshole right there. |
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| 14:20.10 | zignig | Rada: that's cool , computers make everyone cranky :P |
| 14:20.32 | Rada | Especially when one uses proprietary software on them... =/ |
| 14:20.40 | pumpkin0 | little problem with Asus Q-Fan here: the fan should spin up if the temperature is above level X. Q-Fan should be managed by the BIOS. But it does not spin the fan faster even if the temperatures are well above the maximum. Any idea why the BIOS stop managing the fan ? |
| 14:20.44 | zignig | Rada: have a look at http://www.debianadmin.com/rename-network-interface-using-udev-in-linux.html |
| 14:20.56 | Rada | zignig: Already trying that =) |
| 14:21.18 | DustyBin | anyone recommend a desktop script/code editor what features colour hi-lighting and folding ? |
| 14:21.34 | zignig | DustyBin: scite |
| 14:21.41 | DustyBin | aye thanks :D |
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| 14:22.28 | zignig | Rada: do you need to name them bond0.XXX , or is the vlanning defined in the interfaces file ? |
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| 14:24.55 | Rada | zignig: The vlan app calls them *.106/103 based on the vlans name... Older versions of vlan allowed you to name them whatever you wanted, but now apparently not. |
| 14:26.04 | zignig | Rada: HMMM, spew. does the bond have to be called bond then ? can you name the bonded intrface 'b' |
| 14:26.21 | SpeedyG | hey, i've got this composite stuff enabled now, but it seems like it's only using CPU to draw and not my gfx-card, isnt the gx-card supposed to handle that ? |
| 14:26.54 | Rada | Yeah... good idea. I'm trying right now to rename the entire bond+vlan interfaces (bond0.106) to v106/v103 right now, if that doesn't work, I'll try the other. |
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| 14:27.06 | zignig | Rada: :0 |
| 14:27.19 | zignig | Rada: hehe |
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| 14:37.00 | beware | is there an easiest way to upgrade sarge to etch assuming i do *not* have to preserve anything at all |
| 14:37.22 | abrotman | !tell beware about sarge->etch |
| 14:37.28 | beware | i know about the release notes |
| 14:37.34 | tumik | Is the cdimage server offline ors smth? |
| 14:37.36 | beware | but it assumes you need to preserve stuff |
| 14:37.39 | abrotman | tumik: ? |
| 14:37.50 | abrotman | beware: well .. i mean you could reinstall .. but that seems silly :) |
| 14:37.50 | beware | and this may be unnecessarily complicated for my situation |
| 14:37.55 | beware | yes, i could reinstall |
| 14:37.59 | msan | beware: simple way to do it is to update your /etc/apt/sources.list to include etch in it, then do 'aptitude update' followed by 'aptitude dist-upgrade' |
| 14:38.06 | petemc | tumik: there does seem to be an issue, yes |
| 14:38.19 | abrotman | tumik: which image are you looking for? |
| 14:38.28 | beware | i considered it, then people told me its a bad idea. but maybe when i haven't changed any config files it *does* work? |
| 14:38.38 | tumik | Jigdo for etch 32-bit |
| 14:38.44 | tumik | dvd 1 |
| 14:39.03 | abrotman | http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/ |
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| 14:39.16 | beware | its a fresh install from a server provider |
| 14:39.22 | msan | beware: I had made changes to my config files, and I did the upgrade from sarge to etch using the method I mentioned. I didn't run into much problems. |
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| 14:39.29 | beware | ok |
| 14:39.36 | raz | hum.. anyone happen to know what reprepro means when it says: ".changes put in a distribution not listed within it!" after "reprepro include etch mypkg.dsc"? this is the first pkg i'm building so i'm not sure what i did wrong. i first thought i should mention "etch" somewhere in the debian/control file but none of the examples tell to do that. |
| 14:39.40 | beware | i can always push the button and get a new sarge install |
| 14:40.26 | msan | or a new etch install. |
| 14:40.33 | beware | problem: they don't offer it |
| 14:40.36 | beware | or i wouldnt be doing this |
| 14:40.53 | dcnoye | how do i configure eth1 for dhcp upon boot ? |
| 14:41.05 | beware | in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:41.12 | dcnoye | beware: thanks ! |
| 14:41.17 | beware | yw |
| 14:41.39 | beware | related is my desire to strip a system down to what i need |
| 14:41.45 | beware | in terms of unnecessary installed packages |
| 14:41.46 | PingFloyd | beware: just do a good backup and go for it |
| 14:42.01 | beware | im already going at it. the "backup" is a sarge reinstall |
| 14:42.01 | cyzie | where does firefox store the flash file? |
| 14:42.03 | msan | beware: can't you just download it from debian.org and then install etch that way even if the provider you're dealing with doesn't offer it ? |
| 14:42.21 | beware | that would mean dealing with a remote installation procedure |
| 14:42.34 | beware | you know, where you install onto the swap etc. ive done it before |
| 14:42.39 | beware | but i dont feel like it if it can be avoided |
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| 14:42.56 | beware | debootstrap. |
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| 14:43.09 | msan | yeah. |
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| 14:43.59 | helo | man... my girlfriend hates linux |
| 14:44.04 | helo | it just pisses her off... she gets so angry |
| 14:44.08 | themill | raz: it's looking at the changelog entry. If you upload to "etch" you should have "etch" in the changelog not unstable. You probably have "unstable" in the changelog (that is normally the case), hence the complaint. |
| 14:44.10 | amphi | helo: get a new one |
| 14:44.18 | helo | hah, not worth it by any means ;) |
| 14:44.32 | helo | i think it must hate her too... |
| 14:44.37 | beware | i feel so alone when it seems even everyone in a linux channel can even get one |
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| 14:45.07 | helo | she was doing homework in openoffice last night, and it locked up... i had to xkill it, and then the recovery feature didn't recover anything since her last save |
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| 14:45.25 | beware | it shouldnt have locked up |
| 14:45.29 | beware | i understand it annoys her |
| 14:45.31 | helo | i've had issues like that with openoffice since it started... |
| 14:45.40 | moshii | helo: that's not really linux's fault.. linux being a kernel, not and offic suite |
| 14:45.42 | PingFloyd | helo: mine used to also |
| 14:45.47 | raz | themill, ah thx, that's it |
| 14:45.57 | helo | moshii: perception is 9/10ths of existence |
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| 14:46.01 | moshii | s/and/an office suite |
| 14:46.18 | msan | I've never had openoffice lock up on me. even when running on PPC. |
| 14:46.30 | moshii | helo: you should have pistol whipped her and corrected her mistake |
| 14:46.34 | helo | hehehe |
| 14:47.03 | PingFloyd | helo: have her use abiword |
| 14:47.10 | moshii | helo: and then taught her how to do a backtrace and submit bug reports instead of whining |
| 14:47.10 | msan | he would have ended up outside on the streets ... lol |
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| 14:48.15 | StereoSkit | hi all, i have a question, how can i set the proper values to my network card to work fullduplex and to change the media to 100baseT? |
| 14:48.24 | StereoSkit | couldnt find it bu googling |
| 14:48.47 | themill | raz: np. BTW #debian-mentors on oftc (irc.debian.org) is usually a better place to ask packaging related questions, especially if this channel is very busy doing user support things. #d-m can be pretty quiet, but you'll get an answer eventually :) |
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| 14:50.20 | petemc | StereoSkit: ethtool |
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| 14:50.42 | porkpie | guy's does this mean ppp_mppe is enable ? ppp_mppe 11400 0 |
| 14:50.42 | porkpie | ppp_async 16640 1 |
| 14:50.42 | porkpie | crc_ccitt 6656 1 ppp_async |
| 14:50.43 | porkpie | ppp_generic 35232 6 ppp_mppe,ppp_async |
| 14:50.43 | porkpie | slhc 11520 1 ppp_generic |
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| 14:51.09 | porkpie | sorry about that |
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| 14:52.44 | themill | !paste |
| 14:52.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
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| 14:54.18 | tt_ | hi |
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| 14:54.36 | tt_ | Anyone know any web broswer that uses lib64?! |
| 14:56.52 | cyzie | where does firefox store the flash file? |
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| 14:57.42 | msan | cyzie: you mean the plugin itself or the Flash file it downloads ? |
| 14:57.51 | porkpie | let me try again .... does this mean ppp_mppe is enabled in the kernel http://pastebin.com/m7a6e73ab |
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| 14:58.32 | themill | porkpie: yes, should do. VPN? I either use network-manager or pptpconfig for that. |
| 14:58.33 | screamingbytes | mornin all |
| 14:58.37 | moshii | porkpie: if you have the module loaded, yeah, doesn't mean it'll work |
| 14:58.48 | jez9999 | Could anyone help me? I can't seem to get my FTP server to work in active mode when my APF (iptables-wrapper firewall) egress filtering is enabled; my FTP client issues the LIST command but gets no response from the server. This is despite the fact that I've configured it to allow outbound connections on port 20. Any ideas what might be wrong? |
| 14:58.57 | porkpie | moshii:hhm! |
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| 14:59.08 | screamingbytes | has anyone dl'd the xserver-xorg-core update? if so any problems with it? |
| 14:59.23 | porkpie | moshii:I am having a problems connecting in ? |
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| 14:59.47 | screamingbytes | jez9999: u need port 21 open as well |
| 15:00.07 | screamingbytes | jez9999: depends on wether your ftp connection is passive or active |
| 15:00.12 | jez9999 | 21 is already open for ingress |
| 15:00.22 | StereoSkit | petemc: tnx |
| 15:00.26 | jez9999 | i'm talking about egress, as I think that's the problem. the server does accept the port 21 incoming connection |
| 15:00.30 | moshii | porkpie: If you're not sure if you're having a problem connecting.. how do we help? ;) |
| 15:00.32 | jez9999 | it's active |
| 15:01.17 | beware | i hate how all server providers provide an "extra deluxe" debian install |
| 15:01.23 | beware | with 9999999 packages, including half a X window system |
| 15:01.33 | beware | im definitely going to have to debootstrap |
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| 15:01.45 | porkpie | moshii:maybe you could tell me what the problem is Jan 18 15:17:57 radius pptpd[13326]: CTRL: PTY read or GRE write failed (pty,gre)=(6,7) |
| 15:01.45 | porkpie | Jan 18 15:17:57 radius pptpd[13326]: CTRL: Reaping child PPP[13329] |
| 15:01.50 | themill | beware: ? |
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| 15:02.23 | beware | the provider installs a big install with lots of packages and lots of own modification to the config |
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| 15:02.51 | cyzie | msan, the flash file it download |
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| 15:04.22 | themill | beware: eww... you can always remove packages that you don't want. And that's scriptable with dpkg --set-selections. |
| 15:04.33 | Barone-BirRa | good morning, i have a problem with lenny's netinst cd..when i must partitioning the hard disk debian doesn't find old partition |
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| 15:06.11 | beware | well, i simply dont trust the state anymore after a big, custom, provider install/config change *and* a dist upgrade |
| 15:06.20 | beware | i trust debian's package maintainers more than my provider |
| 15:06.52 | themill | :) |
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| 15:07.44 | screamingbytes | jez9999: what about the >1023 ports post connection? |
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| 15:10.47 | screamingbytes | jes9999: you also need inbound connections for active ftp on port 20 from ports >1023 |
| 15:11.15 | cyzie | is it possible to see the content for .dat file? |
| 15:11.22 | moshii | beware: you should run something like tripwire on the machine .. |
| 15:11.26 | beware | can one point me at a url for an etch debootstrap? |
| 15:11.38 | themill | cyzie: use less? depends what the .dat file really is. |
| 15:12.38 | moshii | cyzie: use file on the .dat to find out what it is before feeding it to less |
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| 15:13.34 | cyzie | themill, moshii just say data |
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| 15:14.05 | screamingbytes | beware: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/426 |
| 15:14.07 | moshii | cyzie: cat will pump out the contents of the file.. maybe breaking your console |
| 15:14.30 | themill | cyzie: if it's a text file, the you can look at it using less. You might be able to open it in openoffice.org calc |
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| 15:15.45 | cyzie | moshii, themill it is actually a flash file, a game file |
| 15:15.57 | S4nD3r | Id like to find which are open ports of my internet connection. How to do ? |
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| 15:16.14 | moshii | cyzie: if you want to see what strings are instead use strings on it.. |
| 15:16.34 | robboplus_ | R. Fisher passed away today :( |
| 15:16.35 | themill | S4nD3r: as root, netstat -pant |
| 15:16.54 | cyzie | moshii, great, i think a lot of plain text |
| 15:16.59 | moshii | cyzie: it's going to be a "binary" so what you can parse from it will be limited, there is a tool to extract bitmaps etc out of them though |
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| 15:17.16 | Danker | Hi |
| 15:17.42 | Danker | Is there any command line tool to calculate how much space does directory take with it's contents? |
| 15:17.53 | S4nD3r | themill: I will try it |
| 15:17.57 | moshii | I hate to do an "anyone" question, but does anyone have a scope that they use with debian and would recommend? |
| 15:18.01 | cyzie | moshii, waht tools i that? |
| 15:18.14 | moshii | Danker: du |
| 15:18.16 | screamingbytes | Danker: du -sh <dirname> |
| 15:18.27 | Danker | Thanks |
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| 15:18.37 | moshii | cyzie: google for them, I don't think they're in debian |
| 15:18.46 | NickBurnsSNL | greetings all ... |
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| 15:19.46 | NickBurnsSNL | my question: Just upgraded total mem from 2GB to 4GB, but upon first boot, meminfo only shows 3GB total. BIOS is showing 4GB on the hardware side though ... Do I need to make a change somewhere else? |
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| 15:20.25 | moshii | NickBurnsSNL: are you sure you have a chipset that doesn't munge 4gig of memory to start with.. |
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| 15:21.13 | NickBurnsSNL | <moshii> Hmm, not sure on that .. Optiplex745.. |
| 15:21.16 | moshii | NickBurnsSNL: some intel chipsets have the pci address space just after 3.25gig, so that's all you can use of you're 4gig |
| 15:21.31 | moshii | s/you're/your/ |
| 15:21.34 | NickBurnsSNL | Aaahh ... that does make sesnse .. |
| 15:22.05 | raz | themill, thx for both hints. :) just one more question while i have you on the line (you seem to have done this before). reprepro now accepts the package and it installs just fine, but how do i get rid of the "not authenticated" warning by apt-get? i added my signing public key to /etc/apt/trusted.gpg and changed it to "ultimate trust", but i still get the warning. hm |
| 15:22.10 | NickBurnsSNL | moshii, thanks , I think that clears it up. |
| 15:22.27 | moshii | NickBurnsSNL: if you do an lspci on your box you should be able to work out what chipset is on your board and go from there |
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| 15:22.45 | NickBurnsSNL | doing that right now .. |
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| 15:22.53 | Romik | dpkg tell about vegastrike in lenny |
| 15:23.04 | moshii | NickBurnsSNL: also, you'll need a 64bit kernel to address 4gig of memory + other address spaces |
| 15:23.24 | themill | raz: are you signing the packages and the packages file? |
| 15:23.37 | AbsintheSyringe | out of sudden my external hdd is saying that it's read-only, I tried changing permissions, nothing really helped, it's vfat, on windows it works fine, I'm out of ideas, anyone? |
| 15:23.41 | themill | !why is vegastrike not in testing |
| 15:23.41 | dpkg | vegastrike is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vegastrike |
| 15:23.42 | NickBurnsSNL | ah, OK, and I def do not have 64bit proc, so that would be out |
| 15:23.48 | themill | Romik: ^^ |
| 15:24.18 | Romik | themill, thanks |
| 15:24.43 | moshii | NickBurnsSNL: ah, well that'll probably be it then.. you can only address 4gig total, ram + everything else that is memory mapped |
| 15:24.43 | NickBurnsSNL | moshii: thanks again. |
| 15:24.46 | themill | raz: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286 |
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| 15:25.41 | NickBurnsSNL | Wonder if I pull one of the 1GB's out, since it's not being used anyway |
| 15:25.57 | moshii | NickBurnsSNL: you shouldn't feel too bad, there are 64bit machines out there (core2 macs among them) that have 64bit procs but 32bit chipsets.. :( |
| 15:26.00 | raz | themill, thank you. i didn't have "SignWith" etc. in my conf/distributions. my mirror generally wasn't set up properly for signed packages, i'm fixing that right now |
| 15:26.04 | dfas | hi all I have a php script that does a shell_exec('bin/sh mysh.sh') it does work when I execute php -q phpscript.php from CLI but it does not work when I call this script on apache from a webbrowser any ideas ? I did a chmod a+x mysh.sh |
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| 15:26.25 | themill | raz: np |
| 15:26.30 | moshii | NickBurnsSNL: if you're using dual channel or sometihng you'll need it in there |
| 15:26.52 | NickBurnsSNL | moshii: hehe ... yea, that _would make me feel bad if I owned that, and _paid that, and did not take advantage of it. And yes, you are correct, it is dual channel , so I'll just leave it there. |
| 15:27.29 | cisko | does anyone remember how to execute command over SSH straight from command line |
| 15:27.32 | cisko | like with one command |
| 15:27.43 | moshii | NickBurnsSNL: ah, you can use it if you enable PAE too.. but I can't remember how that is done |
| 15:27.48 | themill | dfas: ewww..... do you really really really need a shell script in your php? Try specifying a full path for sh and also for the shell script. And there's a chance that your php config has disabled shell_exec and/or the path to sh is not allowed. |
| 15:27.52 | wols | !tell AbsintheSyringe aout vfatrw |
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| 15:28.20 | NickBurnsSNL | moshii: I do not know either, I'd have to google that one ... |
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| 15:28.39 | moshii | NickBurnsSNL: lots coming back now.. you need to find out what chipset you have to find out exactly what hack you need if there is one. *) |
| 15:28.49 | dfas | themill, yes this script access a remote daemon using telnet and executes a remote command on it, full paths used , shell_exec('hostname') works and the file is within the html folder |
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| 15:29.31 | NickBurnsSNL | moshii: `k, thanks, put's me in the right direction |
| 15:29.33 | xerophytev | how can i find if my linux is 64 or 32 bit when i do uname -a it sasy i686 Gnu/linux does that means 32 bit and if that says x86_64 .. is there any good way to clear find out which bit |
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| 15:30.50 | AbsintheSyringe | wols, you mind repeating that one? |
| 15:30.57 | hark | install a bigmem kernel for PAE |
| 15:30.59 | themill | dfas: there are so many other ways of accomplishing that without a shellexec... |
| 15:31.16 | blubberdiblub | NickBurnsSNL: highmem support in the kernel (if configured for 64GB) turns on PAE support. for 4GB, PAE shouldn't be needed. are you sure the remaining 1Gig is not mapped to highmem? what does "free" say for total mem? |
| 15:31.17 | hark | xerophytev: dpkg-architecture |
| 15:31.18 | moshii | there we go :) |
| 15:31.35 | xerophytev | hark: thx |
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| 15:32.34 | NickBurnsSNL | blubberdiblub: here it is: |
| 15:32.38 | dfas | dfas, I need to accomplish this from within a php script that can be executed from a web interface I have done it before on other servers..but how could I do it otherwise anyhow ? |
| 15:32.44 | moshii | blubberdiblub: PAE doesn't work around bad chipsets though does it? |
| 15:32.57 | NickBurnsSNL | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:32.59 | NickBurnsSNL | Mem: 3106904 424128 2682776 |
| 15:33.00 | NickBurnsSNL | -/+ buffers/cache: 128296 2978608 |
| 15:33.04 | themill | dfas: what does the shell_exec return? And have you tried it without /bin/sh and just a full path to the script? |
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| 15:33.15 | NickBurnsSNL | sorry, I didnot want to past too much here .. |
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| 15:33.37 | blubberdiblub | moshii: well, i'm not sure about that. can't the mem be mapped to some arbitrary address? |
| 15:33.52 | dfas | dfas, it does only return the line tilll escape caracter is ']' |
| 15:34.09 | minus198 | how do I convert a textfile from utf8 to iso-8859-15? |
| 15:34.11 | dfas | themill, no I have not tried without /bin/sh |
| 15:34.26 | wiedenmann | enouf: thank you for the inode help |
| 15:34.40 | moshii | blubberdiblub: I think the problem is the memory controllers in some intel chipsets can only address 32bit's worth, so there isn't enough there for memory + everything else.. |
| 15:34.58 | NickBurnsSNL | moshii: I'm reading this now, to get some idea ... http://kerneltrap.org/node/2450 |
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| 15:35.30 | moshii | blubberdiblub: I suppose it depends exactly where PAE happens,.. |
| 15:35.35 | themill | dfas: if it's marked as executable and starts with #!/bin/sh then that should be sufficient. |
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| 15:35.52 | themill | dfas: You should, however, specify the full path to the script. |
| 15:36.22 | blubberdiblub | moshii: you're probably right. well, using a kernel configured for 64GB highmem would be worth a try anyways, i guess (<- NickBurnsSNL) |
| 15:36.24 | Y0da^ | anyone had any luck using the new KDE on etch? |
| 15:36.32 | dfas | themill, this script logs on to a unix system using telnet does it differ if it startsa with #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash ? |
| 15:36.37 | themill | !tell Y0da^ about kde4 |
| 15:36.37 | Y0da^ | I was thinking about trying it out |
| 15:36.45 | moshii | blubberdiblub: I'm interested in this too, because I want to stick 4gig in my macbook |
| 15:37.03 | NickBurnsSNL | blubberdiblub: got it, yes, that would be .. |
| 15:37.14 | themill | dfas: if it's running on a default debian install then either should be fine unless you use particular bashisms that sh doesn't support. |
| 15:37.24 | happla | moshii: your macbook should work fine with 4Gi |
| 15:37.27 | dfas | nope nothing special |
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| 15:38.22 | moshii | happla: nah, it's not the latest generation, was 50,000 yen cheaper that way, so it has the shit chipset :/ |
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| 15:39.50 | vin` | !greetings |
| 15:39.51 | dpkg | hello, vin` |
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| 15:41.41 | happla | moshii: ok |
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| 15:41.50 | happla | moshii: yen? 50k? Monopolymoney? |
| 15:42.02 | happla | moshii: =) |
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| 15:43.57 | moshii | happla: 700 quid vs 900 quid for exactly the same spec -400mhz +40gig of hd, I went for the 700 quid one ;) |
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| 15:44.57 | moshii | blubberdiblub: reading up on this stuff, it seems 32bit pae enabled kernels can access the extra gig with a slight performance drop, but 64bit kernels can't gah |
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| 15:46.31 | blubberdiblub | moshii: ugh ... that's strange |
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| 15:48.32 | moshii | blubberdiblub: It's hard to find anything either way. But maybe the page size can be adjusted in 32bit mode, so you can ramp up the page size and get to the other gig. but a 64bit cpu isn't expect to need that, so can't do it, and then you have a memory controller that can only address 32bits natively and pci etc address spaces to fit in. |
| 15:49.28 | blubberdiblub | moshii: sounds dim :( |
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| 15:49.34 | moshii | would be nice if the onboard graphics code steal that un-usable memory instead :/ |
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| 15:51.10 | tdn | Is there a package that I can remove in order to remove *all* graphical applications (X)? |
| 15:51.32 | xerophytev | i have server which has mrtg installed, and it starts so many cron based mrtg process every 5 minutes to generate graphs .. when it does the load goes so high .. how can i fix this issue |
| 15:51.53 | moshii | tdn: removing the xlibs will probably make all that stuff fall out |
| 15:52.30 | jelly | is there a graphical mail client with mutt-like display filter capabilities (pipe the mesasge thru arbitrary program before displaying it)? |
| 15:52.31 | tdn | moshii, ok. Thank you. |
| 15:52.50 | moshii | jelly: kmail can do that.. |
| 15:53.27 | jelly | nice, I'd been checking out kmail a while ago, when I considered using KDE |
| 15:53.35 | tdn | moshii, any particular package that is "parent"? Or just all packages with name of libx*? |
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| 15:54.40 | moshii | tdn: if you find something that depends on x with aptitude, it'll depend on some x libs.. remove those and lots of stuff will break, everything that uses X.. maybe some other things too, so be careful what you remove |
| 15:54.42 | SamuraiDio | ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! |
| 15:54.52 | SamuraiDio | my pidgin keeps gimming this messagem |
| 15:55.04 | SamuraiDio | and i'm not using kde |
| 15:55.18 | SamuraiDio | this is my debug: http://pastebin.com/d2108fbb0 |
| 15:55.26 | tdn | moshii, what do you mean? Is it not safe to remove, say, libx11-data ? |
| 15:55.51 | tdn | moshii, this computer does not even have a monitor, so X programs are not needed. |
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| 15:56.16 | moshii | tdn: some apps that create graphs depend on font libs that depend on x libs.. |
| 15:57.04 | tdn | moshii, yes, I know. But are there any *vital* packages that depend on X? |
| 15:57.25 | moshii | tdn: nothing that's going to stop your box booting |
| 15:57.59 | tdn | moshii, ok. |
| 15:58.22 | tdn | moshii, I have a package called: acpi-support. It sounds vital? |
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| 15:58.42 | moshii | tdn: it's not vital.. |
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| 15:58.53 | moshii | I wonder why it depends on xlibs though |
| 15:58.54 | mmu_man | hmm the last update for etch broke vlc |
| 15:59.01 | moshii | you probably want acpi-base instead |
| 15:59.10 | tdn | moshii, ok. |
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| 16:02.34 | wols | !tell AbsintheSyringe about vfatrw |
| 16:02.50 | AbsintheSyringe | tnx |
| 16:03.01 | Nyle | yo |
| 16:03.14 | Nyle | that ntfs 3d fuse bullshit totally fuxed with my drive |
| 16:03.35 | jelly | Nyle: GREAT bug report there! :-P |
| 16:03.36 | mosno | can you mirror your LVM logical volume onto another physical volume WITHOUT hardware or software (md) raid? |
| 16:03.42 | Nyle | I hadn't booted windows in months, just been on debian, I never noticed, but ntfs03g has been deleting my files |
| 16:03.45 | Nyle | at random |
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| 16:03.51 | Nyle | like like random songs from full albums are gone |
| 16:03.56 | Nyle | documents, pics, movies |
| 16:03.57 | mosno | ie. to make a backup. as i understand it, the snapshot depends on the existence of the original lv |
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| 16:04.00 | Nyle | wtf man |
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| 16:04.09 | wols | Nyle: huh? |
| 16:04.15 | Deepa^Laptop | anyone happen to know what drivers I need to install for my Compaq 6510b to be able to use 3D? |
| 16:04.17 | jelly | Nyle: which version? Have you read their faq? |
| 16:04.23 | moshii | Nyle: that's why the kernel driver is ro.. |
| 16:04.24 | Nyle | wols: i know man, that is exactly what I mean |
| 16:04.25 | wols | Deepa^Laptop: lspci will tell you |
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| 16:04.33 | Nyle | jelly: well i had to boot into windows to try and do some data recovery |
| 16:04.38 | Nyle | but fuck it, I have a mirror image drive |
| 16:04.43 | Deepa^Laptop | Display Controller? |
| 16:04.50 | Nyle | jelly: been using for a very long time |
| 16:05.01 | abrotman | lspci | grep VGA |
| 16:05.03 | Nyle | never seemed to give me trouble |
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| 16:05.12 | Nyle | moshii: i know |
| 16:05.14 | mmu_man | hmm I found the previous deb for libxfont, but not xserver-code |
| 16:05.16 | jelly | Nyle: ah. I fsck my usb ntfs every now and then in a virtualized XP machine |
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| 16:05.24 | Nyle | jelly: heh |
| 16:05.25 | wols | !tell mmu_man about sdn |
| 16:05.26 | mmu_man | xserver-xorg-code |
| 16:05.43 | Deepa^Laptop | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) |
| 16:05.44 | mmu_man | ah thx :) |
| 16:06.01 | wols | Deepa^Laptop: i810/intel |
| 16:06.03 | grub | ntfs-3g deleting files at random? :o |
| 16:06.15 | Nyle | yup |
| 16:06.22 | raz | hum.. anyone know a sane way to create man-pages without futzing with the arcane syntax? i'm looking for some kind of docbook -> man converter or so but haven't found anything yet |
| 16:06.23 | jelly | Nyle: only needs a XP license; gratis virtualbox does USB2 |
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| 16:06.32 | Deepa^Laptop | I used the i810 drivers, and it said no device found |
| 16:06.50 | Nyle | i had hunted down every single black metal album by the God known as Varg Vikernes, aka Burzum.... took me a very long time, and if i hadn't mirrored my drive, I woulda lost it now |
| 16:07.00 | Nyle | thats it I learned my lesson |
| 16:07.18 | Nyle | I'm gonna get off my lazy ass and setup a network share, which I should've done from the getgo |
| 16:07.31 | jelly | Nyle: hey, free software written with no specs, you figure it out |
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| 16:07.36 | Nyle | exactly |
| 16:07.44 | Nyle | I am not complaining or crying, just saying.. beware! |
| 16:07.53 | Nyle | use this ntfsrw shit at your OWN risk |
| 16:07.57 | jelly | ^5 for having a backup! |
| 16:08.03 | moshii | reverse engineered fs.. not something I'd trust |
| 16:08.04 | Nyle | oh definitely |
| 16:08.24 | Nyle | I been collecting burzum music, orignals, interviews, tribute albums and god knows what since 1995 |
| 16:08.33 | moshii | ms like to change how ntfs works too much also.. |
| 16:08.34 | Nyle | 96 actualy |
| 16:08.43 | jelly | moshii: note that samba works rather well, and it's all reveng-ed |
| 16:08.48 | Nyle | i can't afford to lose that |
| 16:08.54 | Nyle | samba ftw |
| 16:09.30 | Nyle | I have an nfs I just need to find a nfs mount driver or just mount bind it in somewhere and share that over samba |
| 16:09.43 | Nyle | i duno i'll figure something out, but seriously, fuck ntfs3g |
| 16:10.09 | jelly | Nyle: did you have the known issue with directory depth > 4 ? |
| 16:10.24 | Nyle | I don't know about it |
| 16:10.24 | moshii | jelly: network protocols are nicer because you can sniff the protocol, ntfs.. you'd have to start looking at the bits on the disk and dis-assembling the windows kernel |
| 16:10.32 | Nyle | jelly: if i did I didn't notice it |
| 16:10.53 | jelly | Nyle: it's a known bug, it doesn't work well with too many nested dirs |
| 16:11.02 | Nyle | eh |
| 16:11.33 | jelly | so D:\mp3\sorted\Artist\Album\CD-1\ -> teh lose |
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| 16:11.58 | Nyle | d:\music\black\burzum --- completely empty |
| 16:12.02 | Nyle | I had 29 subdirs |
| 16:12.19 | Nyle | interviews, videos, music videos, ilke 10 original albums, tributes and god knows what |
| 16:12.23 | Nyle | I NEVER DELETED IT |
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| 16:12.30 | Nyle | I swear i never that stupid high, but its ntfs3g |
| 16:12.31 | jelly | could be it, I don't remember if it was > 4 subdirs or >= 4 subdirs |
| 16:12.44 | Nyle | because my other music albums, are missing one two maybe upto 4 songs randomly |
| 16:12.47 | Nyle | not in sequence either |
| 16:12.53 | Nyle | but random stuff just benig deleted |
| 16:13.04 | Nyle | i booted windows to chkdsk |
| 16:13.13 | Nyle | well.. that was fine, no fs errors |
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| 16:13.37 | jelly | it also matters very much that you run the newest ntfs-3g |
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| 16:14.02 | Nyle | that too |
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| 16:14.53 | jelly | basically one really needs to read http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html before using |
| 16:15.10 | Daemonik | When I run xsane is run as root on this system a connected epson scanner is detected. When run as a normal user it is not. How can I find what device in /dev represents the scanner to adjust the permissions so it can be used by a normal user? |
| 16:15.10 | AbsintheSyringe | ok, I think my vfat is just fscked, cuz I just wrote something to my vfat card |
| 16:15.30 | Nyle | jelly: i did |
| 16:16.03 | Nyle | jelly: after losing that 6 year old sid box, I backup everything like a madman |
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| 16:16.50 | jelly | ... yeah, you really need that first disaster to learn about making backups ;-) |
| 16:17.16 | jelly | (testing restores is maybe even more important) |
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| 16:17.31 | Nyle | true |
| 16:18.16 | jelly | I backup the home machine to an USB drive, and USB doesn't have SMART or anything ;-) |
| 16:18.24 | Nyle | lol |
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| 16:18.36 | Nyle | I back up everything important on gmailfs |
| 16:18.42 | jelly | heh. |
| 16:18.47 | Nyle | :) |
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| 16:18.57 | jelly | google ownz ur dataz |
| 16:18.59 | Nyle | lol |
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| 16:19.07 | Nyle | google is the new umbrella corporation of the net |
| 16:19.19 | Nyle | google will take over the world one day |
| 16:19.35 | Saeck | one day, you mean it hasn't already? |
| 16:19.48 | Saeck | coulda fooled me... |
| 16:19.49 | Nyle | of coruse not |
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| 16:20.11 | Nyle | its like cartman and his trapper keeper |
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| 16:20.21 | Nyle | google hasn't fully taken over yet |
| 16:20.27 | moshii | Nyle: it's not called the net anymore.. it's called the myspace |
| 16:20.31 | abrotman | Daemonik: look in /etc/groups .. see if any of them might apply |
| 16:20.41 | Nyle | hahahahahaha |
| 16:20.45 | Nyle | moshii: that was great |
| 16:21.23 | Nyle | I use myspace once every few weeks to see if any of my mates got anything goin on |
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| 16:21.46 | Nyle | family stuff too |
| 16:21.50 | Saeck | I haven't got into that stuff yet, I guess I'm not that well connected |
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| 16:22.03 | mmu_man | ahhhh |
| 16:22.06 | Saeck | I normally use e-mails, etc. |
| 16:22.07 | mmu_man | much better |
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| 16:22.14 | mmu_man | I was getting BadAlloc from vlc |
| 16:22.17 | mmu_man | now it starts again |
| 16:22.23 | Nyle | I like mplayer over vlc |
| 16:22.31 | Nyle | though mplayer can't do dvd w/menu |
| 16:22.41 | Nyle | pisses me off majorly, unless someone knows or has a patch for it |
| 16:22.43 | mmu_man | that's not a reason to break vlc :p |
| 16:22.58 | Nyle | huh? |
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| 16:23.16 | Nyle | no I'm saying, I use vlc becaue of dvd w/ menu, otherwise mplayer is just fine |
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| 16:23.57 | mmu_man | so something in libxfont1 1:1.2.2-21etch1 or xserver-xorg-core 1:1.1.1-21etch2 broke it |
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| 16:24.12 | Nyle | on etch? |
| 16:24.15 | mmu_man | yes |
| 16:24.17 | Nyle | hmmm time to report a bug |
| 16:24.20 | mmu_man | let's freeze those |
| 16:24.33 | Nyle | or at least check the bts |
| 16:24.41 | mmu_man | hmm I didn't copy the vlc error |
| 16:25.03 | mmu_man | I'll retry later maybe |
| 16:26.10 | mmu_man | it's in the bts already |
| 16:26.17 | mmu_man | #461410 |
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| 16:26.29 | themill | !dbugs 461410 |
| 16:26.33 | dpkg | #461410:S[xserver-xorg-core] xserver-xorg-core: BadAlloc after security upgrade to 2:1.1.1-21etch2; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:15:01 UTC |
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| 16:27.28 | mmu_man | seems there is a fix (disable shm) |
| 16:28.47 | mmu_man | now, what did I want to do today before being NMI-ed |
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| 16:31.53 | Nyle | mi? |
| 16:31.55 | Nyle | nmi? |
| 16:34.04 | mmu_man | non-maskable-interrupt |
| 16:34.17 | mmu_man | I couldn't watch tv cause I couldn't start vlc :p |
| 16:34.27 | mmu_man | Bénie soit la Freebox |
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| 16:38.52 | manu_hack | on my machine vi doesn't work as before, how to get it back? |
| 16:39.40 | manu_hack | i have vim-full installed |
| 16:39.42 | themill | manu_hack: run it as vim not as vi (and create a ~/.vimrc) |
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| 16:40.50 | manu_hack | themill: but sometimes (like visudo) vi is needed |
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| 16:42.15 | themill | manu_hack: visudo respects the $EDITOR and $VISUAL env variables. |
| 16:42.51 | screamingbytes | gaim is missing / removed from etch isn't it? |
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| 16:43.18 | themill | manu_hack: I also have alias vi=vim as root which also helps. |
| 16:43.21 | wols | !gaim |
| 16:43.21 | dpkg | hmm... gaim is an AIM clone for UN*X (http://gaim.sf.net/). It's graphical (it uses Gtk+), and uses the TIK/TOC protocol as well as Oscar. If gaim can't sign on, try the cvs version - http://gaim.sf.net/cvs.shtml, or really meant for AIM, but now with plugins supports ICQ, MSN and Yahoo!, or to get the cvs version, add "deb http://people.debian.org/~robot101/gaim unstable cvs" to your sources.list. a shit irc client Gaim an I.M. see <pidgin> |
| 16:43.42 | themill | manu_hack: actually, I have $EDITOR set so it might be that.... not bothered to check. |
| 16:44.10 | Maulkin | Gaim is in etch |
| 16:44.14 | spq | i have big .nfs* files in some exported dirs what do they do? |
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| 16:44.26 | spq | some are 500+mb |
| 16:44.26 | screamingbytes | visudo uses the mini vi package and has a lock file/syntax checker enhancement |
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| 16:45.05 | screamingbytes | Maulkin: ive searched for it before, lemme look again |
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| 16:45.40 | screamingbytes | Maulkin: hmm, apt-cache shows it |
| 16:45.44 | manu_hack | themill: I have EDITOR set too but visudo fails to run, it said the command vi not found, annoying |
| 16:45.48 | screamingbytes | Maulkin: i don't think synaptic did |
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| 16:46.13 | Maulkin | screamingbytes: Dunno about synaptic, don't use it. |
| 16:46.42 | screamingbytes | manu_hack: are you root? or using sudo u can't use visudo as a user ( i am stepping into the middle of your conversation ) |
| 16:46.54 | themill | manu_hack: "EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim visudo" certainly works. hell... even putting kwrite there works ;) |
| 16:47.09 | screamingbytes | Maulkin: apt and synaptic are kinda the same synaptic is a limited gui for apt interface |
| 16:47.58 | screamingbytes | Maulkin: there are other software installers, can't rem their names, but they don't use apt so they cross on what packages are installed and what not |
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| 16:48.46 | Maulkin | screamingbytes: no... they all use the dpkg database. |
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| 16:49.04 | manu_hack | themill, screamingbytes: opps, my bad, that should work |
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| 16:49.49 | screamingbytes | manu_hack: use 'su -' then visudo, your comment of "command not found" tipped me off |
| 16:50.30 | screamingbytes | Maulkin: Debian Bible or Deb from no starch press said they don't so ive never messed with anything other then apt-? or synaptic |
| 16:50.36 | Gge | !java |
| 16:50.36 | dpkg | i guess java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun partially released its Java implementation under the GPL on 2006-11-13. There are other implementations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>. |
| 16:51.25 | Gge | !install java |
| 16:51.26 | dpkg | Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". If you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main) then install sun-java5-plugin or sun-java6-plugin from non-free. If you are running amd64 then you'll need a 32bit chroot and browser for the java plugin. |
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| 16:52.56 | themill | screamingbytes: fyi, visudo uses $VISUAL or $EDITOR or /usr/bin/editor (in that order), where editor is set through the debian alternatives system. It has no dependency on vi/vim/vim.tiny at all and iirc on an etch system will end up using nano if you don't do something different with one of those options. |
| 16:53.49 | konadr_ | how good is mbmon? is there a better package to use? just trying to find some temp info on a supermicro |
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| 16:53.52 | Gge | humm "java-virtual-machine" is not part of Debian package in Lenny |
| 16:54.25 | Gge | may i miss something ? |
| 16:54.37 | themill | Gge: it's a virtual package |
| 16:54.43 | donkdonk | ok, i need some help with maintaing repos. |
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| 16:55.18 | Gge | Themill , Virtual package ? |
| 16:55.22 | donkdonk | i have signed my Release file but apt-get still complains that its not a valid package |
| 16:55.39 | themill | !tell Gge about virtual package |
| 16:55.52 | azeem | donkdonk: what is "its" |
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| 16:56.26 | Gge | !virtual package |
| 16:56.26 | dpkg | well, virtual package is a package that doesn't really exist but represents a function which several real packages fulfill, which appears in the Provides control file field of another package. The effect is as if the package(s) which provide a particular virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual package name appears. To find which package(s) provide a foo virtual package, use $ apt-cache showpkg foo; |
| 16:56.28 | donkdonk | azeem: its would be a custom package i have in my local repo. |
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| 16:57.22 | themill | !wayttd Gge |
| 16:57.22 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Gge? |
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| 16:59.20 | Gge | themill, Ephphany brower does not support java , so i try to add java plugin |
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| 16:59.32 | Gge | in my system |
| 16:59.40 | screamingbytes | themill: that is entirely possible considering i don't use anything other than vi, i just thought i remembered reading in Debian Systems (nsp) that it used a compiled in tiny version of vi, no themes, syntax stuff etc... |
| 16:59.45 | biloti | Hi guys. I'm trying to compile gcc-4.2.2 in my Debian etch (AMD64) machine and always get "skipping incompatible ... -lc" error. Any clue or hint? |
| 17:00.23 | Gge | themill , apt-cache search give some results |
| 17:00.25 | screamingbytes | themill: im more than willing to admit i have not looked into it, never had a reason to, so i will trust your statement more than my memory |
| 17:00.37 | themill | screamingbytes: read man visudo or look at the source... that tends to be a little more definitive than some random book :) |
| 17:00.40 | biloti | in a chrooted 32-bit environment, it works |
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| 17:02.08 | themill | Gge: follow the instructions from /msg dpkg install java. If you are running lenny, all you need to do is aptitude install sun-java6-plugin (with non-free in your sources.list: /msg dpkg non-free sources) |
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| 17:04.12 | Gge | themill , thx , what about sablevm present in lenny |
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| 17:04.47 | themill | Gge: I've never had much luck with any of the free javas. You might be luckier than me. |
| 17:05.20 | Gge | ok i'll try and then will come back with "install-java" |
| 17:05.28 | Gge | if it fails |
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| 17:05.56 | hoxu | isn't sun's java free enough nowadays? :p |
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| 17:07.41 | themill | hoxu: no. not yet. sort of. it's complicated.... just like ati's drivers... :) |
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| 17:08.40 | hoxu | I guess it's in sitting in non-free for a reason, but what was the point in making it GPL then -_- |
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| 17:09.37 | themill | hoxu: they haven't made all of it gpl. Only the bits they own. And they're trying to gpl more of it. |
| 17:09.39 | themill | !icedtea |
| 17:09.39 | dpkg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea, or http://icedtea.classpath.org |
| 17:09.43 | themill | hoxu: ^^ |
| 17:09.54 | DawnLight | what is the command to print a directory's total size? |
| 17:10.02 | themill | du |
| 17:10.15 | DawnLight | thanks |
| 17:11.03 | hoxu | themill, interesting, thanks |
| 17:11.09 | themill | np |
| 17:11.12 | smoser | is there some mechanism other than /etc/network/interfaces by which you can be notified of an interface going up or down ? |
| 17:11.20 | themill | Anyway... it's beer o'clock. See you all! |
| 17:11.32 | hoxu | DawnLight, try "du -csh", and as a homework, open the manual from page 23 and see what the options do |
| 17:11.44 | smoser | the reason I ask is I have a badly behaving vpn client that doesn't us ifup or ifdown, and I cant figure out a way to determine when it has brought interfaces up and down |
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| 17:12.08 | hoxu | !later themill |
| 17:12.09 | dpkg | See you later $1! |
| 17:12.13 | hoxu | oops :P |
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| 17:12.42 | smoser | it just invokes ifconfig (or ip... some manner) manually |
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| 17:15.29 | NiCeBoY | Hello, i am using debian etch with kernel 2.6.18-5-686, i have notice that this kernel version has several vulnerabilities and am suffering from many problem, what can i do to fix the kernel problems please? by patching the kernel or what please? |
| 17:16.15 | BarbaraSalesch | i am using lenny : is it possible to change my repos to etch just to do a $ sudo aptitude download ... and then switching back to original without messing up my system ? |
| 17:16.38 | cahoot | no |
| 17:17.18 | swirling_vortex | @Barbara: There are methods, but most of them don't work. If you wish to downgrade, I would just re-install etch. |
| 17:17.33 | NiCeBoY | BarbaraSalesch lenny is not good? |
| 17:17.38 | swirling_vortex | see forums.debian.net for more info as the question has been asked before |
| 17:17.51 | NiCeBoY | swirling_vortex cahoot please do u have a solution for my problem pleae? |
| 17:18.06 | screamingbytes | themill: as a rule i would agree, but im pretty choosy about my books, i.e. books by Bruce Perens take a front seat to potentially incomplete or manpages in general which don't always contain as much insight as a book can. This particular book was written by madduck / Martin F. Krafft a very involved developer/maintainer in debian, who got his PhD by writing his disert on Deb. So i trust his insights. man pages i have f |
| 17:18.27 | BarbaraSalesch | no downgrade... just want to dl some .deb and deps from etch without install |
| 17:18.32 | swirling_vortex | @Niceboy: Can you give a more specific error as to what's causing the problem? |
| 17:18.39 | screamingbytes | themill: in the case of visudo i am not disagreeing with you, as i said i trust what you mentioned over my memory |
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| 17:19.47 | NiCeBoY | swirling_vortex after some hours |
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| 17:20.22 | NiCeBoY | it can be 2 or 3 or 15 hours i lost connection of my server completely it stop to respond, no ssh, no web.. and nothing but i can still ping the ip.s but cant connect to it. |
| 17:21.05 | swirling_vortex | sorry guys, I have to go to class. ttyl |
| 17:21.32 | BarbaraSalesch | i just want to: change repos to etch /home/meee $ sudo aptitude update && aptitude download <packages> and then change repos back to lenny and $ sudo aptitude update is that possible without messing my system up... i wouldnt be installing anything. |
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| 17:24.10 | NiCeBoY | any idea please for me? |
| 17:24.11 | BarbaraSalesch | NiCeBoY, lenny is good, but thats was out of the guestion ---> i just want to: change repos to etch /home/meee $ sudo aptitude update && aptitude download <packages> and then change repos back to lenny and $ sudo aptitude update is that possible without messing my system up... i wouldnt be installing anything. |
| 17:24.28 | linux_jones | would lowering my screen resolution make video more smooth? |
| 17:24.39 | BarbaraSalesch | NiCeBoY, what was your guestion ? |
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| 17:25.21 | NiCeBoY | BarbaraSalesch Hello, i am using debian etch with kernel 2.6.18-5-686, i have notice that this kernel version has several vulnerabilities and am suffering from many problem, what can i do to fix the kernel problems please? by patching the kernel or what please? , swirling_vortex after some hours it can be 2 or 3 or 15 hours i lost connection of my server completely it stop to respond, no ssh, no web.. and nothing but i can still ping the ip.s but cant connec |
| 17:25.27 | NiCeBoY | BarbaraSalesch check it for me please. |
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| 17:30.16 | strav | hey. Quickly, something just broke with my ftp client (filezilla) and strangely, removing |
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| 17:31.13 | BarbaraSalesch | linux_jones, try it out |
| 17:31.14 | chops | !tell NiCeBoY about security |
| 17:31.20 | BarbaraSalesch | NiCeBoY, Dont know |
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| 17:31.30 | strav | ~/.filezilla and well, everything related to it plus reinstalling it dosen't change anything so I'm willing to try another ftp client. Any advice on what might be the most stable/efficient? (I would prefer one with gui) |
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| 17:32.04 | screamingbytes | strav: what desktop do you use? |
| 17:32.13 | screamingbytes | strav: window manager, sry |
| 17:32.17 | strav | enlightenment |
| 17:33.06 | strav | (if you're wondering on why did my filezilla broke, yes error report says it's X related but I don't mind much...) |
| 17:33.09 | screamingbytes | strav: do you have gnome libraries installed? i use gftp |
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| 17:33.12 | chops | NiCeBoY: FWIW, 2.6.18-5-686 is the most up-to-date kernel ABI (which corresponds to several kernel versions); say 'dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 | cat' to see if you actually have the most up-to-date kernel package or not |
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| 17:33.51 | maxamillion | does anyone know if the currently daily build of the lenny installer has the partman bug fixed? |
| 17:33.56 | maxamillion | current* |
| 17:34.15 | screamingbytes | strav: if it crashed you might have a lurking lock file or something preventing a full reinstall, try synaptic and mark file-zilla for a full removal it should clean up everything |
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| 17:34.39 | strav | screamingbytes, I have all gtk stuff installed and used gftp a while ago and found it to be quite unstable (connection loss on multiple factors)... |
| 17:34.52 | screamingbytes | connection drops a lot yes |
| 17:35.01 | strav | screamingbytes, I already did apt-get remove --purge filezilla |
| 17:35.06 | screamingbytes | strav: i can't find a keep alive in the preferences |
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| 17:36.00 | screamingbytes | strav: i get around it by making a book mark and if i havn't used gftp in about 30 sec's i click the book mark before trying to transfer files |
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| 17:36.12 | screamingbytes | strav: it is annoying i agree, but i can live with it |
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| 17:36.34 | NiCeBoY | !pastebin |
| 17:36.35 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
| 17:36.48 | BarbaraSalesch | Hello, I am using Lenny, can I change my repos to etch /home/meee $ sudo aptitude update && aptitude download <packages> and then change repos back to lenny and $ sudo aptitude update is that possible without messing my system up... i wouldnt be installing anything. |
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| 17:37.14 | chops | BarbaraSalesch: I don't believe that that will mess anything up, no. |
| 17:37.16 | AtoZ | what this error? |
| 17:37.19 | strav | screamingbytes, I can only recommend you filezilla if it you're willing to try. Anyways, that's pretty certain I'm not going back to gftp... is there anything on the qt side? |
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| 17:37.33 | NiCeBoY | chops please check the output here please for me " http://pastebin.ca/860323 " |
| 17:37.55 | chops | NiCeBoY: Please do the "| cat" part as well |
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| 17:38.09 | chops | NiCeBoY: That ensures that you'll get the entire version number |
| 17:38.51 | kuribas | My network doesn't work after I reboot the computer, but it works when I manually type modprobe forcedeth and dhclient. Does anyone now why that is so? |
| 17:39.05 | BarbaraSalesch | chops, i dont believe also, but just want to be sure, since i have heard from many ends that it would :D |
| 17:39.11 | chops | kuribas: Can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:39.15 | chops | kuribas: ? |
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| 17:39.31 | NiCeBoY | chops check it back here for me pleae " http://pastebin.ca/860325 " |
| 17:39.50 | kuribas | chops: yes |
| 17:40.51 | chops | BarbaraSalesch: Even if you're about to do something bad with apt, it'll describe what's going to happen (removing package X, downgrading package X) and ask for confirmation first... it won't say "THIS IS ABOUT TO MESS ALL YOUR PACKAGES UP ARE YOU SURE", but if you keep your brain on it'll be fine :-). |
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| 17:41.10 | chops | NiCeBoY: You're up-to-date on your security updates. Why do you say your kernel has vulnerabilities? |
| 17:41.27 | kuribas | chops: http://pastebin.ca/860357 |
| 17:41.56 | chops | kuribas: Argh, I need lunch. I meant /etc/network/interfaces. Sorry about that. :-/ |
| 17:42.36 | NiCeBoY | chops because i notice the vulnerabilities of this version of kernel and seems to be as if am being affected and thats why i would like to upgrade the kernel version. |
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| 17:42.59 | kuribas | chops: note that my network worked before, but I changed to a new motherboard and pc. |
| 17:43.14 | kuribas | chops: cpu I mean. |
| 17:43.33 | chops | NiCeBoY: http://www.debian.org/security/faq#version |
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| 17:44.28 | chops | kuribas: Hm, is the forcedeth module loaded when you first boot? I guess the answer is probably "no"... |
| 17:44.48 | kuribas | chops: I don't know, I have added it to /etc/modules. |
| 17:45.02 | kuribas | Isn't that the right place? |
| 17:45.03 | chops | kuribas: You can check by running 'lsmod' on a fresh boot. |
| 17:45.15 | chops | kuribas: I believe that's the right place. Also, can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces please? |
| 17:45.29 | kuribas | http://pastebin.ca/860361 |
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| 17:46.02 | chops | kuribas: Hm, that looks right. I would guess that forcedeth isn't being loaded on boot; you can check by booting and running 'lsmod | grep forcedeth'. |
| 17:46.08 | chops | brb, lunch |
| 17:46.15 | kuribas | Ok, I'll try, thanks. |
| 17:46.42 | raz | hum.. i just added 8G ram to my box (4x 2G modules) but "free -m" only shows 6925 (Mb) total. anyone have an idea what my be eating a full gigabyte of my precious ram? :\ |
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| 17:46.55 | raz | s/my/may/ |
| 17:47.42 | Maulkin | Is your graphics card stealing it? |
| 17:47.49 | Maulkin | What does dmidecode say? |
| 17:48.14 | raz | Maulkin, hm, dmidecode says a lot, what args do i need to track this down? |
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| 17:48.43 | orveldv | any idea, are there still some packages creating hard links at their installation? I'm going to clone a debian installation by simply copying the files and I need to know what to do |
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| 17:50.17 | raz | Maulkin, i'd have to re-check bios but i'm sure that i have assigned the smallest possible value for graphics memory (this is a headless server anyways) |
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| 17:51.18 | NiCeBoY | chops what you advice me to do to solve my problem please? |
| 17:51.35 | Maulkin | raz: --type memory ? |
| 17:51.42 | deadcat | hmm. i installed kde 5:47 but when i startkde it starts 3.5. i dont think i have 3.5 |
| 17:52.01 | Maulkin | orveldv: I don't know of any that do, or that have in the past |
| 17:52.15 | raz | Maulkin, http://rafb.net/p/3N3zOE46.html |
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| 17:53.09 | dcnoye | how do you send a process to the background so that you don't see the out put from it as well ? |
| 17:53.13 | orveldv | Maulkin: great then ; there were some about 3 or 4 years ago, something core system related but I don't recall exactly |
| 17:53.14 | pumpkin0 | i want to try undervolting (P965 board, Core 2 CPU), but PHC looks so inactive. Any other projects to check ? |
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| 17:53.19 | deadcat | i thought kde 5? was in sid. only kde kde-core kde-amusements are 5:47 and everything is still 4? what the f |
| 17:53.29 | pumpkin0 | deadcat: kde4, not 5. |
| 17:53.38 | deadcat | oh |
| 17:53.52 | amphi | pumpkin0: phc is inactive? last time I looked, it seemed they had core 2 support |
| 17:53.53 | deadcat | pumpkin0: so is 4 in sid yet or not? i read it somewhere it is |
| 17:53.54 | Eulex | the 5:47 package version number has nothing to do with the version of kde |
| 17:54.03 | deadcat | k |
| 17:54.05 | Eulex | basically, it's the debian revision of it. |
| 17:54.11 | pumpkin0 | deadcat: KDE 4 is the new sexy, one. no idea about sid ... |
| 17:54.13 | kuribas | chops: Ah, problems solved. For some reason the network card on my new motherboard is eth1, not eth0. |
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| 17:54.22 | deadcat | pumpkin0: k thanks |
| 17:54.25 | Eulex | kde4 is in experimental iirc |
| 17:54.52 | Gge | !install java |
| 17:54.52 | dpkg | Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". If you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main) then install sun-java5-plugin or sun-java6-plugin from non-free. If you are running amd64 then you'll need a 32bit chroot and browser for the java plugin. |
| 17:55.02 | pumpkin0 | amphi: they use speedstep_centrino for my CPU. But the speedstep_module is more-or-less deprecated. |
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| 17:55.29 | pumpkin0 | amphi: and i don't see any infos on Core 2 Q vs Core 2 D CPUs. |
| 17:55.57 | Eulex | my c2d uses the acpi_cpufreq driver |
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| 17:56.26 | amphi | Eulex: that's what I thought, and phc has a patch for that IIRC |
| 17:56.37 | Ace2016 | Can someone name a gtk1 app |
| 17:56.41 | Eulex | c2q-specific? |
| 17:56.43 | Eulex | Ace2016, xmms |
| 17:56.47 | Ace2016 | ty |
| 17:57.29 | Ace2016 | i want to make a gtk1 pixmap theme |
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| 17:57.54 | amphi | Ace2016: how timely ;) |
| 17:58.06 | Ace2016 | timely? |
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| 17:58.27 | Ace2016 | i copped a theme i found but its messed up, and even test theme is messed up |
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| 17:59.34 | orveldv | Ace2016: gtk-theme-switch should have a "switch" command for gtk1 |
| 17:59.42 | Ace2016 | thats the problem |
| 17:59.47 | Ace2016 | its translucent bright white |
| 17:59.57 | Ace2016 | even though the theme is completely normal |
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| 18:00.11 | Ace2016 | Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) |
| 18:00.11 | Ace2016 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.11 | Jargoyle | hi |
| 18:00.22 | Ace2016 | when the theme was on xmms failed tos tart and said taht |
| 18:00.39 | Jargoyle | hey, I need to remove thousands of small files and folders but when I run rm the load averages jump to 15-20 |
| 18:00.52 | Jargoyle | is there a way to run the rm so that the load average cant go above 3 |
| 18:01.12 | pumpkin0 | Jargoyle: run it in a nice-jail. |
| 18:01.33 | justin | nice probably won't help, it is all the IO |
| 18:01.33 | Jargoyle | pumpkin0: wanna help me a bit :> I've never even heard that |
| 18:01.35 | Jargoyle | of that |
| 18:01.38 | Ace2016 | why not just renice the process? |
| 18:01.44 | Jargoyle | renice? |
| 18:01.46 | ItchyHobo | Hi, I use LAN at office with DSL. Is there someway I can hog all the bandwidth for myself; or get priority over other users in the workgroup? |
| 18:02.01 | pumpkin0 | Eulex, amphi: i didn't realise PHC had a second branch, alway got my updates via svn. Thanks. |
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| 18:02.34 | Jargoyle | Ace2016: ? |
| 18:02.39 | justin | Jargoyle: if you don't care how long it takes, make a script that deletes them in batches of 1000 or so with a pause in between |
| 18:02.40 | pumpkin0 | Jargoyle: nice <command> makes the command less important to the CPU. It will not block the CPU. But the IO will be a problem. |
| 18:03.09 | Ace2016 | Renice alters the scheduling priority of one or more running processes. |
| 18:03.22 | Jargoyle | yeah, isnt it weird that it takes so much processing power? It must be the hw-raid that's slowing the deleting process like hell |
| 18:03.43 | justin | Jargoyle: it isn't |
| 18:03.52 | justin | Jargoyle: load != cpu |
| 18:03.54 | Ace2016 | hardware raid wouldn't slow it down, software raid would |
| 18:03.58 | ItchyHobo | any ideas anybody? |
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| 18:04.14 | Jargoyle | yeah, software-raid i mean |
| 18:04.31 | Ace2016 | unless its a fake hardware raid masquerading as hardware raid |
| 18:04.40 | pumpkin0 | Jargoyle: let my guess: RAID5 in software ? |
| 18:05.02 | Jargoyle | no, just 2 hdd's, should be sw-raid 1 |
| 18:05.21 | pumpkin0 | Jargoyle: SATA, IDE, SCSI ,... ? |
| 18:05.27 | Jargoyle | sata |
| 18:05.29 | Jargoyle | sata2 |
| 18:05.37 | pumpkin0 | Jargoyle: and you did enable AHCI ? |
| 18:05.44 | Jargoyle | AHCI? :> |
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| 18:06.39 | pumpkin0 | Jargoyle: SATA can run in 2 modes: with and w/o AHCI. It is faster with AHCI, but less compatible with windows (so some borads disable AHCI by default...). |
| 18:07.41 | ItchyHobo | i wanna watch Obama on the tube? (Others office ppl are mostly republicans) |
| 18:08.15 | wols | hehe |
| 18:08.23 | Ace2016 | man republicans are going to loose badly, no point even wasting votes on them |
| 18:08.49 | ItchyHobo | so can anybody help me hog bandwidth at my office?? |
| 18:08.58 | ItchyHobo | it is a simple workgroup? |
| 18:09.01 | wols | ItchyHobo: do you have admin statis on the router? |
| 18:09.11 | ItchyHobo | yep |
| 18:09.21 | ItchyHobo | the admin left the router at default setting |
| 18:09.22 | wols | lartc.org then |
| 18:09.32 | ItchyHobo | almost everybody knows |
| 18:09.34 | ItchyHobo | thanks man |
| 18:09.46 | wols | does the route run debian? |
| 18:09.52 | pumpkin0 | ItchyHobo: total deb-mirror for all archs and releases ? |
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| 18:10.14 | ItchyHobo | y |
| 18:10.59 | screamingbytes | strav: i have filezilla i just prefer gftp, just a flavor thing i suppose, filezilla is far more developed with more options agreed. |
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| 18:13.42 | Jargoyle | lol |
| 18:13.53 | Jargoyle | I leave my winscp to delete the files for a while |
| 18:14.03 | Jargoyle | haha it must take weeks to delete 10% of the files |
| 18:14.08 | Jargoyle | but the load averages are fine |
| 18:14.24 | NiCeBoY | cahoot in my kernel.log i have this message "kernel: ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 15582577" what it means please? |
| 18:14.34 | bogor | I am able to play mp3 files in my debain etch with totem movie player (no error messages), but i am not able to hear any sound. What could be wrong? |
| 18:14.59 | cahoot | NiCeBoY: unclean shutdown? |
| 18:15.37 | NiCeBoY | cahoot i lost connection of the server then i restarted it. |
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| 18:16.27 | screamingbytes | strav: the only other ftp client ive ever used mainly is igloo |
| 18:16.32 | xuser_ | bogor: unmute it? |
| 18:16.36 | cahoot | NiCeBoY: that's probably why |
| 18:16.59 | NiCeBoY | cahoot and this one "server kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 89.123.105.162:55260/8801 shrinks window 3264665513:3264668012. Repaired." ? |
| 18:17.35 | cloakable | o.o |
| 18:17.52 | bogor | xuser_ , it is in unmute state |
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| 18:19.07 | xuser | bogor: in alsamixer? |
| 18:20.10 | Saeck | real quick, I'm trying to increase my screen resolution and adding higher res's in the xorg.conf doesn't seem to help, any suggestions? |
| 18:20.50 | NiCeBoY | cahoot ? |
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| 18:21.05 | cahoot | NiCeBoY: no idea |
| 18:21.08 | zwox | o/ |
| 18:21.26 | NiCeBoY | cahoot seems weird again i lot connection with the server :( |
| 18:21.34 | NiCeBoY | cahoot but after restart i get back connection |
| 18:21.54 | bogor | xuser, settings in alsamixer looks fine. |
| 18:22.09 | mot | anybody know where to get ahold of the msttcorefonts package? |
| 18:22.16 | zwox | did someone already try to connect a sandisk sans view and put music on it please ? |
| 18:22.35 | bogor | xuser, is there any way to test the sound card. I mean whether it is properly detected by debian ? |
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| 18:24.17 | cahoot | bogor: lspci? |
| 18:24.17 | xuser | well you said you can play MP3s so its working. |
| 18:24.25 | zwox | i don't understand how to make mtp device to be reconized |
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| 18:24.43 | zwox | i get error when using mtp-tools mtp-detect command |
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| 18:24.51 | xuser | bogor: lsmod and check if the modules for you card are loaded |
| 18:25.07 | bogor | xuser,yes i can play mp3, but i do not hear any music. |
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| 18:25.59 | cahoot | bogor: run speaker-test in a terminal |
| 18:25.59 | xuser | its working then |
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| 18:26.22 | bogor | cahoost, how? |
| 18:26.37 | bogor | cahoost, how |
| 18:26.44 | cahoot | bogor: open a terminal, type speaker-test, hit return |
| 18:26.57 | bogor | cahoot, thanks |
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| 18:28.30 | bogor | cahoot, no sound from speaker-test |
| 18:28.36 | cahoot | no error? |
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| 18:29.29 | bogor | cahoot, i get this over & over again "Time per period = 2.986654 0 - Front Left" |
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| 18:29.37 | artagnon | what environment variables are valid in a sudo environment? how do I set them? |
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| 18:30.07 | Fizkah | How do I unpack a .tar.bz2 file? :D |
| 18:30.19 | cahoot | bogor: that implies alsa is content |
| 18:30.24 | abrotman | tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 |
| 18:30.26 | artagnon | Fizkah: tar xvf <filename> |
| 18:30.30 | artagnon | xvf |
| 18:30.31 | artagnon | sorry |
| 18:30.53 | Heavy-D | Hey guys, what apps (MTA, etc) would you recommend for installing on Debian for a basic small business mail server? |
| 18:31.38 | orveldv | Heavy-D: postfix + dovecot seems to be easiest |
| 18:31.39 | zwox | bogor: thanks, but my probleme is to detect the mtp device and put music on it |
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| 18:32.04 | Heavy-D | orveldv: Okay I know what postfix is, but what is Dovecot? |
| 18:32.08 | bogor | cahoot, any fix, will reboot solve the problem |
| 18:32.10 | zwox | using mtp-detect it return device busy, can i know what process handle it with fuser ? |
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| 18:32.27 | orveldv | Heavy-D: pop3, imap and some other things |
| 18:32.39 | cahoot | bogor: what sound card is this? a hda-intel device? |
| 18:33.05 | Heavy-D | orveldv: Is Dovecot the recommended one or is there others that are just as good? I hear about courier, is it any good? |
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| 18:34.19 | orveldv | Heavy-D: I think so, recently I installed only dovecot and it was _very_ easy ; about 2 years ago I went for courier and it seemed a bit harder |
| 18:34.23 | bogor | cahoot, soundmax intel |
| 18:35.03 | cahoot | bogor: what does: cat /proc/asound/modules return? |
| 18:35.15 | chops | NiCeBoY: Still there? |
| 18:35.54 | Heavy-D | orveldv: Okay cool... and BIND for DNS Server? |
| 18:36.00 | bogor | cahoot, 0 snd_hda_intel |
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| 18:36.49 | cahoot | bogor: ok I'm guessing here - probably need a later alsa-version |
| 18:36.57 | orveldv | Heavy-D: I never used bind so I don't know, I use dnsmasq for DNS + DHCP |
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| 18:37.34 | orveldv | Heavy-D: dnsmasq does them both |
| 18:37.37 | Heavy-D | orveldv: dnsmasq eh... okay cool thanks for your help. It's much appreciated |
| 18:37.45 | chemist | I have just made all my ip's static, I can browse web from windows clients but not from debian |
| 18:38.11 | NiCeBoY | chops yes |
| 18:38.24 | cahoot | chemist: look at /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:38.26 | bogor | cahoot, update manager says there my system is up to date |
| 18:38.30 | wakizashi | hi, hopefully someone might be able to help me - i installed a hauppage HVR 1100 tv card in my box, and now that gets detected as the sound card instead of the onboard card |
| 18:38.42 | cahoot | bogor: what does: cat /proc/asound/version return? |
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| 18:38.58 | orveldv | Heavy-D: you're welcome |
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| 18:39.25 | bogor | cahoot, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 13:55:50 2006 UTC) |
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| 18:39.28 | SexyKen | If I create an init script using php as the interpreter - and I run 'exec' within php which runs ifconfig - will it work - or does init not have enough privileges...that is the question. |
| 18:39.40 | cahoot | bogor: that's pretty old |
| 18:39.47 | chemist | cahoot: its blank |
| 18:39.55 | wakizashi | so now when KDE starts up, I get an artsmessage sayign that the default device couldn't be opened for playback |
| 18:39.55 | justin | SexyKen: wtf would you write an init script in php for? |
| 18:40.09 | cahoot | chemist: you want your nameservers there |
| 18:40.12 | SexyKen | justin: becuase that's what I know :-) |
| 18:40.15 | chops | NiCeBoY: I advise that you read the documentation I sent you. You don't have a kernel vulnerability problem at present. |
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| 18:40.23 | chemist | cahoot: thanks |
| 18:40.27 | SexyKen | And why not really - it's not so bad. |
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| 18:40.46 | bogor | cahoost, how to fix |
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| 18:40.58 | NiCeBoY | cahoot here there are vulnerabilities of this kernel version : http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/2993/ |
| 18:41.00 | cahoot | bogor: you run sarge? |
| 18:41.12 | bogor | cahoot, i run etch |
| 18:41.14 | wakizashi | any ideas as to how I get my onboard sound card to be detected as the audio device? |
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| 18:41.30 | cahoot | bogor: I'd upgrade the kernel |
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| 18:42.19 | bogor | cahoot, so apt-get upgrade kernel should fix the problem ?? |
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| 18:42.51 | ShereKhan | I am having some priviledge problems with Samba and Windows. I have shared both /home/[user] and /home/shared, the latter being a folder for multiple users. [user] obviously should have read/write access to his own home-partition, as well as the shared folder. But for somehow I am unable to write to my own share from any Windows client. The shared-share works just fine. Any hints? |
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| 18:42.55 | AtoZ | \quit |
| 18:42.57 | ShereKhan | The server is running Deb 4.0. [user] folder has rights rwxr-xr-x, and is owned by [user]:[user]. shared folder has rights rwxrwx---, and is owned by root:users. [user] is a member of the users group. |
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| 18:43.17 | cahoot | bogor: what does uname -r return? |
| 18:43.52 | bogor | cahoot, 2.6.18-5-k7 |
| 18:44.32 | SexyKen | Thanks for the help Justin! |
| 18:44.36 | cahoot | bogor: I see - you might have to resort to an upgrade simply of alsa-driver |
| 18:45.42 | bogor | cahoot, you mean compile kernel from source ? |
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| 18:47.07 | cahoot | bogor: no |
| 18:47.21 | ace | hello there, is there a channel to talk about debian package creation and maintenance? |
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| 18:47.52 | bogor | cahoot, then ? |
| 18:48.32 | \amethyst | ace: #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org perhaps |
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| 18:49.34 | ace | thx |
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| 18:50.29 | cahoot | bogor: actually I'm not sure how one should manage this on etch |
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| 18:51.40 | cahoot | bogor: possibly by using alsa-source from lenny - but don't know if that's compatible with your kernel |
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| 18:51.45 | bogor | cahoot, i found somewhere on interenet that latest stable kernel version is 2.6.22 while mine is 2.6.18 . If i fix that, then that should help , right ? |
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| 18:52.03 | cahoot | bogor: I'd try that |
| 18:52.19 | cahoot | if etch offers that option |
| 18:52.43 | wald0 | i need to put my hostname in 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts ? |
| 18:53.43 | bogor | cahoot, Thanks for the help |
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| 18:54.01 | NiCeBoY | cahoot does fsck check hard disk and recover bad sectors please? if i do it on ssh i just type fsck ? |
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| 18:54.45 | cahoot | NiCeBoY: you don't run fsck on mounted partitions |
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| 18:56.26 | chops | NiCeBoY: fsck does not recover bad sectors (badblocks does). Do you believe you have bad sectors? |
| 18:56.41 | chops | NiCeBoY: (Well, badblocks doesn't "recover" bad sectors... but it detects them.) |
| 18:57.17 | NiCeBoY | oh ok |
| 18:57.36 | NiCeBoY | what can i do to check my hard disk then pleaE? |
| 18:58.15 | chops | NiCeBoY: Why do you want to check your hard disk? |
| 18:58.28 | chops | NiCeBoY: What kind of failure are you trying to detect, and why do you suspect that sort of failure? |
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| 18:59.38 | NiCeBoY | chops the real problem am gettng is : i am using debian etch with kernel 2.6.18-5-686, i have notice that this kernel version has several vulnerabilities and am suffering from many problem, what can i do to fix the kernel problems please? by patching the kernel or what please? , after some hours it can be 2 or 3 or 15 hours i lost connection of my server completely it stop to respond, no ssh, no web.. and nothing but i can still ping the ip.s but cant connec |
| 19:00.22 | chops | NiCeBoY: So your problem is that you lose ssh and web connection but can still ping the server? What are the other problems you have? |
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| 19:01.27 | NiCeBoY | chops on kernel i log i have these 2 weird lines : "kernel: ext3_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 8732679" and "kernel: TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 89.123.105.162:54829/8801 shrinks window 620466762:620469471. Repaired." |
| 19:02.25 | NiCeBoY | any idea chops ? |
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| 19:04.15 | chops | NiCeBoY: I would try memtest86 |
| 19:04.27 | chops | NiCeBoY: It could be a flaky drive, but I'd assume memory first |
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| 19:04.50 | chops | NiCeBoY: It does sound a lot like flaky hardware, though, yeah. |
| 19:05.03 | NiCeBoY | chops how can i do the memtest plz? |
| 19:05.19 | GhostlyDeath | Does GIMP have a line tool? |
| 19:05.52 | NiCeBoY | my supply told me he has tested hhardware and no issues about hardware.. then i think it sould be the kernel which is causing problem? |
| 19:05.59 | NiCeBoY | *supplier |
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| 19:07.22 | Asmooh | how do i restart the inetd superserver? |
| 19:07.44 | epsas_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.45 | dmilith | Asmooh: do You even know what is that? |
| 19:07.49 | epsas_ | or inetd restart even |
| 19:07.52 | \amethyst | Asmooh: depends on which version you're using |
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| 19:08.22 | Asmooh | xinetd ist on /etc/init.d |
| 19:08.38 | Sadneophyte | wht is the sysVinit editor program that debian uses? |
| 19:08.51 | Asmooh | i need to restart it becase my ftp isnt running anymore |
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| 19:09.37 | opensrcguru | sysv-rc-conf is one.... |
| 19:09.40 | chops | NiCeBoY: As I said, I think your problem is likely hardware and not the kernel version, regardless of what your supplier says. Google for 'memtest86' to find a tool you can use to test your memory. You can also use 'badblocks' on the disk to find out if there are problems with the disk. |
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| 19:10.04 | chops | NiCeBoY: You'll want to run fsck on the disk after whatever problems have been corrected (if you find any problems), but running it before won't get you much of anywhere is my guess. |
| 19:10.21 | NiCeBoY | ok |
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| 19:11.08 | NiCeBoY | chops what should i fo please" badblocks -t "? |
| 19:11.12 | Yanomami | what is Universe repository? |
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| 19:11.28 | cahoot | Yanomami: ubuntuspeak |
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| 19:13.12 | Sadneophyte | there is a nice X or gtk sysvinit runlevel editor, but i forgot it's name. Can anyone help me? |
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| 19:15.06 | chops | NiCeBoY: You can run 'badblocks /dev/sda' (or whatever) from a running system. NEVER run "badblocks -n" on a running system, or you may cause disk corruption (and as I say, I'd recommend running a memory test as the first thing to investigate). |
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| 19:16.57 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
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| 19:17.10 | Ace2016 | how do i make a custom desktop environment out of bits of apps i've found? |
| 19:17.32 | Ace2016 | just start compiz-fusion and run a couple of my startup scripts thats it |
| 19:18.39 | rEph | What is the best method for getting an apt tree to a networkless box, I was looking at aptoncd however, I have no gui nor ability to have a gui on the box I need to mirror from |
| 19:19.43 | justin | rEph: apt-zip ? |
| 19:19.51 | rEph | apt-zip... thanks lemme look at that |
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| 19:20.27 | wald0 | my hostname on /etc/hosts is suposed to be set on 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.1.1 ? is 127.0.1.1 the new way ? |
| 19:20.59 | chops | wald0: 127.0.0.1 |
| 19:21.12 | chops | rEph: google apt-online |
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| 19:21.20 | chops | rEph: Er apt-offline rather :-) |
| 19:21.29 | screamingbytes | 127.0.0.1 is local host, 127.0.1.1 is fqdn |
| 19:21.52 | rEph | its an odd situation justin ;). I have a networkless box, that has network...it's coloc'd ...but the "network" it's on is a vlan that will and cannot ever have internet access, only connected on a backend to a box we have access to that I'd like to use to make a mirror'd repository of heh... it's screwy... but I think apt-zip may work |
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| 19:23.10 | Jiraya | plz i want to install debian from usbkey |
| 19:23.20 | Jiraya | plz send me the file what i need |
| 19:23.55 | pumpkin0 | i need a CPU tester like prime95, but the prime95 ftp-site is down. Any other tools i could use for a quick check ? |
| 19:24.07 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 19:24.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ or http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian |
| 19:24.15 | abrotman | pumpkin0: test for what? |
| 19:24.25 | karsten | pumpkin0: Build a kernel a few time. |
| 19:24.51 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: errors in calcualtions. the volt-setting on my laptop and nuts and things crash. |
| 19:24.56 | abrotman | pumpkin0: just stress it? or actually get useful results? |
| 19:25.14 | Jiraya | yes i know all this abrotman |
| 19:25.25 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: check if the CPU/FPU are returning correct results. |
| 19:25.28 | screamingbytes | Jiraya: plz read and download your architecture from here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 19:25.30 | Jiraya | i need file for i386 |
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| 19:26.03 | abrotman | pumpkin0: apt-cache search cpu test ? |
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| 19:26.49 | ricosecada | How do I add memtest to the grup menu on debian? I have tried "kernel /usr/bin/memtest", but that wont boot. |
| 19:27.08 | jetscreamer | you set the memtest=true or so in menu.lst |
| 19:27.19 | jetscreamer | then run update-grub |
| 19:27.31 | jetscreamer | read the file it's heavily commented |
| 19:27.35 | jetscreamer | make a backup first |
| 19:27.38 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: thanks. stress looks good. |
| 19:27.41 | ricosecada | I did try that, but then memtest=true just gets re-commented out |
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| 19:27.55 | jetscreamer | read the file |
| 19:27.56 | Jiraya | i copie all this tree files into my usb???http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
| 19:27.59 | jetscreamer | you don't remove the # |
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| 19:28.09 | jetscreamer | just turn the word false to true |
| 19:28.16 | jetscreamer | ## is a comment in this case |
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| 19:28.28 | ricosecada | jetscreamer thank you very much..! |
| 19:28.30 | bahadunn | anyone know why apache ReadmeName in Etch does not seem to work? |
| 19:28.32 | jetscreamer | np |
| 19:28.36 | jetscreamer | read the file |
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| 19:29.36 | abrotman | pumpkin0: i've used cpuburn .. but i did actually kill a mahcine with that |
| 19:29.41 | screamingbytes | Jiraya: you read the installation instructions about 1" below the download link |
| 19:29.42 | Jiraya | i copie all this tree files into my usb???http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
| 19:29.47 | Jiraya | ok |
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| 19:29.57 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: this box is more or less toast anyway. |
| 19:30.05 | dooooo | hi all , some programs (like azureus and vlc) are failing to start with this error |
| 19:30.08 | dooooo | The program '.' received an X Window System error. |
| 19:30.08 | dooooo | This probably reflects a bug in the program. |
| 19:30.08 | dooooo | The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. |
| 19:30.08 | dooooo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.08 | dooooo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:30.20 | disposable | i have a HP laptop with i915 graphics card and trying to set up a dualhead system, however I keep getting the same picture on both screens instead of one big desktop. can anybody tell me what's wrong with my xorg.conf? http://pastebin.com/d5b7cc952 |
| 19:30.34 | pdb | hey if i have two 100mbit nics in my server, how would I make it so the server used them both simultaneously |
| 19:30.56 | pdb | thus making me 200mbit |
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| 19:32.45 | tralala | pdb, /msg dpkg lartc |
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| 19:34.03 | cahoot | disposable: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html |
| 19:34.18 | chops | pdb: In general it's hard |
| 19:34.24 | tralala | pdb, you might be able to use shorewall for the real setup |
| 19:34.30 | chops | pdb: The term is 'bonding' |
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| 19:35.10 | disposable | cahoot: thank you, will check |
| 19:36.36 | tralala | with lartc you can do load balancing on the two lines. No idea what bonding is and how it works. |
| 19:37.36 | jelly-home | !info ifenslave |
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| 19:37.43 | dooooo | hi all , some programs (like azureus and vlc) are failing to start with this error: |
| 19:37.44 | _Umi_ | hi |
| 19:37.45 | dpkg | ifenslave: (Attach and detach slave interfaces to a bonding device), section net, is optional. Version: 2 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 4 kB |
| 19:37.45 | dooooo | The program '.' received an X Window System error. |
| 19:37.45 | dooooo | This probably reflects a bug in the program. |
| 19:37.45 | dooooo | The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. |
| 19:37.47 | _Umi_ | is it possible to get list of last updates in debian? |
| 19:37.50 | _Umi_ | it screwed some of my X lib dammit |
| 19:37.56 | dooooo | (Details: serial 471 error_code 11 request_code 148 minor_code 5) |
| 19:37.56 | dooooo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.56 | dooooo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.06 | dooooo | To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line |
| 19:38.06 | dooooo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.06 | dooooo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.07 | pdb | thanks for your help on that, I will read up that website and see what i can do |
| 19:38.20 | HardDisk_WP | how do I add the debian sid repository to a lenny system, so that it uses the lenny repo ONLY for nvidia-* packages? |
| 19:38.35 | jelly-home | tralala: bonding is link-layer stuff, usually needs support at switch-side |
| 19:38.45 | _Umi_ | hm |
| 19:38.48 | dooooo | Any ideas why I'm having this problem ? |
| 19:38.48 | _Umi_ | thank you :) |
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| 19:41.24 | karsten | What user should rpc.statd run as? I've got it runnign w/ a numeric UID on a recovered box. |
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| 19:41.37 | karsten | Eg: restored from backup. |
| 19:41.56 | karsten | /sbin/rpc.statd itself isn't SUID. I don't see any config options for it. |
| 19:41.59 | \amethyst | dooooo: what are the limits printed by ulimit -d -n -v -m ? |
| 19:42.02 | karsten | ... being applied at runtime. |
| 19:42.17 | \amethyst | dooooo: default would be open files: 1024 and the rest unlimited |
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| 19:42.55 | jelly-home | karsten: statd 3049 1 0 Jan13 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/rpc.statd |
| 19:43.05 | dooooo | data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited |
| 19:43.06 | dooooo | open files (-n) 1024 |
| 19:43.06 | dooooo | virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited |
| 19:43.06 | dooooo | max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited |
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| 19:43.30 | jelly-home | karsten: statd is uid 112, gid 65534 (nogroup) |
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| 19:43.45 | dooooo | data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited |
| 19:43.45 | dooooo | open files (-n) 1024 |
| 19:43.45 | dooooo | virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited |
| 19:43.50 | dooooo | max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited |
| 19:44.14 | jelly-home | karsten: grep statd /v/l/d/i/*nfs*.postinst will probably show which package adds the user, I'm betting on nfs-common |
| 19:45.33 | jelly-home | karsten: or just restore your /etc/passwd as well ;-) |
| 19:45.33 | karsten | jelly-home: I don't think I've got it ;-) |
| 19:45.36 | karsten | jelly-home: clamav also got hit. |
| 19:46.08 | jelly-home | yeah, I know for a fact clamav adds a system user |
| 19:46.12 | karsten | jelly-home: I've got a user statd, uid 103. |
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| 19:46.39 | jelly-home | karsten: um, restart all the /etc/init.d/nfs* thingies? |
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| 19:47.15 | karsten | jelly-home: Tried that. Even straced it. |
| 19:47.19 | karsten | Seems to fork as another user. |
| 19:47.29 | jelly-home | karsten: you have a process that's been running since before the fuckup/restore? |
| 19:48.04 | jelly-home | rpc.* suggests it's been run from prtmap |
| 19:48.19 | jelly-home | being* portmap* blah* |
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| 19:48.48 | karsten | jelly-home: Nope. |
| 19:48.51 | karsten | jelly-home: clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0xb7df86f8) = 22984 |
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| 19:49.06 | karsten | jelly-home: ... from strace. Looks like a process clone (fork) w/ a setid. |
| 19:49.15 | jelly-home | reboot! :-D |
| 19:49.16 | karsten | Gotta run for lunch, back for more later. |
| 19:49.26 | karsten | jelly-home: Yeah, it's part fo portmap stuff. |
| 19:49.28 | wald0 | screamingbytes: what is fqdn ? |
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| 19:50.14 | jelly-home | wald0: hostname + "." + domain |
| 19:50.18 | jelly-home | !fqdn |
| 19:50.19 | dpkg | [fqdn] Fully Qualified Domain Name, or the entire DNS identifier for a host, 'foo.example.org' |
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| 19:51.15 | jetscreamer | yay they fixed the no save games in warzone2100 |
| 19:51.27 | jetscreamer | you should check it out if you like that kind of stuff |
| 19:51.29 | jetscreamer | good game |
| 19:51.34 | jetscreamer | in sources |
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| 19:51.56 | jetscreamer | i beat it on normal |
| 19:52.25 | jetscreamer | shoulda started on hard |
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| 19:54.25 | archpollux | hi |
| 19:54.43 | xif | Can / should I use apt to remove a package by fully-qualified name (python-qt4_4.3-2ubuntu7.1_i386.deb)? |
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| 19:54.53 | archpollux | if i want to help with the multiarch distro, how would i go about doing it? |
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| 19:55.25 | archpollux | xif: apt uses package names, what you have there is a full deb file |
| 19:55.43 | xif | archpollux: so I should use dpkg, right? |
| 19:55.57 | beware | what is considered to be an optimal swap size for a 512 mb system |
| 19:55.58 | jetscreamer | python-qt4_4.3-2ubuntu7.1 probably |
| 19:56.07 | jetscreamer | dpkg -l python-qt4 |
| 19:56.07 | dpkg | ii python-qt4 2.8-2.2 jetscreamer's private porn collection |
| 19:56.12 | archpollux | xif: what jetscreamer |
| 19:56.14 | archpollux | said |
| 19:56.28 | archpollux | haha |
| 19:56.34 | jelly-home | beware: 1GB should suffice |
| 19:56.39 | archpollux | how does it know? |
| 19:56.41 | archpollux | :P |
| 19:56.48 | beware | the provider allocated 2 GB for it. on a 20 GB disk. im considering repartitioning that drive |
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| 19:57.07 | jelly-home | beware: if you don't _really_ need that 1GB, don't bother |
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| 19:57.44 | beware | right now it doesnt matter, im about to reinstall it anyway |
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| 19:59.43 | Acxty123 | how can I access the a network machine from the bash. For example a computer that have some music share, I want to play the songs from there without any need to copy using mpg123 |
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| 20:00.08 | holycow | what is the name of the command line internet browser again? |
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| 20:00.26 | jetscreamer | lynx links elinks links2 |
| 20:00.30 | jetscreamer | et al |
| 20:00.32 | holycow | oh danke! |
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| 20:00.55 | jetscreamer | you would use samba or nfs or somelthing |
| 20:01.07 | jetscreamer | !samba |
| 20:01.07 | dpkg | [samba] a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html), or #samba on irc.freenode.net, or <samba etch5> |
| 20:01.12 | archpollux | holycow: apt-cache search helps too :) |
| 20:02.00 | Acxty123 | jetscreamer, I already have samba configure. I can access the network machine, I use smbclient but I see you can only transfer files, what I want to do is to use does files without the need of copying them to my computer |
| 20:02.01 | davi | Does Debian compiles its packages to AMD 64? I am not sure if buy Intel 64 or AMD 64. |
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| 20:02.16 | beware | EM64T is the same as AMD64 |
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| 20:02.48 | davi | beware, I will google for EM64T |
| 20:02.48 | articpenguin380 | is debian better than ubuntu |
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| 20:02.57 | beware | articpenguin380, depends on what for |
| 20:03.06 | davi | articpenguin380, I prefer Debian. I have used both |
| 20:03.10 | beware | em64 is intel's implementation of amd64 |
| 20:03.17 | beware | em64t* even |
| 20:03.20 | davi | beware, ah! |
| 20:03.33 | jetscreamer | mount the samba share, it's like you mount some local partition |
| 20:03.35 | ktwilight[m] | am trying to compile nvidia-glx in lenny, by grabbing the source, edit control.in, dpkg-buildpackage, and install the necessary files to do a m-a a-i nvidia. however, i got stuck at m-a a-i nvidia, where it says "The source tarball could not be found" referring to nvidia-kernel-source (which i have installed from what dpkg-buildpackage built for me). the error also has "find: /usr/src/modules: No such file or directory" at |
| 20:03.36 | ktwilight[m] | the end of it. am stuck now, what is the solution for this? |
| 20:03.38 | beware | if they had guts they'd have called it amd64 |
| 20:03.40 | articpenguin380 | !ubuntu |
| 20:03.41 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 20:03.50 | davi | beware, Is there an CD/DVD ISO for AMD64? |
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| 20:04.29 | screamingbytes | wald0: fqdn = fully qualified domain name |
| 20:04.32 | abrotman | !tell archpollux about multiarch |
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| 20:04.50 | articpenguin380 | !jfs |
| 20:04.50 | dpkg | hmm... jfs is Journaled File System from IBM, licensed under the GPL. Check http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/ It improved a lot performance-wise since 2003! Give it another try... Maybe worth it! |
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| 20:04.53 | articpenguin380 | !reiserfs |
| 20:04.53 | dpkg | [reiserfs] a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See <ext3>, <xfs>, or <jfs> for safer filesystems. Like the DHARMA Initiative: government-sponsored, highly scientific and secretive. <ext3 vs reiserfs> |
| 20:04.59 | beware | davi, yes there is |
| 20:05.02 | ktwilight[m] | !nvidia-glx |
| 20:05.04 | ktwilight[m] | :( |
| 20:05.16 | beware | http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
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| 20:05.29 | beware | choose one of the mirrors |
| 20:05.31 | beware | and use the amd64 arch |
| 20:05.35 | davi | beware, I have got it http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ [amd64] Thanks |
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| 20:05.47 | articpenguin380 | reiserfs is deafd |
| 20:05.47 | beware | its a way too |
| 20:05.50 | ktwilight[m] | so, um, no one has installed nvidia-glx on lenny? |
| 20:06.01 | twiggz | so is hans reisers wife. |
| 20:06.46 | articpenguin380 | namesys is dead too so no more reiser |
| 20:07.12 | archpollux | abrotman (dpkg): i know that, all i want to know is how i can help |
| 20:07.41 | wald0 | screamingbytes: jelly-home, then is better to put it on .1.1 instead of .0.1, correct ? its the same compatible in my debian system ? |
| 20:08.10 | NiCeBoY | HELLO, how can i see the hard disk connected to my mainboard please? |
| 20:08.22 | beware | open your pc case. |
| 20:08.31 | archpollux | NiCeBoY: yeah, take a look inside :P |
| 20:08.38 | NiCeBoY | no no |
| 20:08.40 | archpollux | NiCeBoY: in other words, be more explicit |
| 20:08.48 | NiCeBoY | i dont have psysical acces to the server |
| 20:08.52 | NiCeBoY | it a dedicated erver |
| 20:08.55 | NiCeBoY | hosted in a datacenterman :P |
| 20:09.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 886] by debhelper |
| 20:09.02 | beware | "df" shows mounted partitions |
| 20:09.12 | beware | and from the names you can tell the names of any hdd's |
| 20:09.14 | NiCeBoY | its not already mounted |
| 20:09.19 | articpenguin380 | !ext4 |
| 20:09.20 | dpkg | it has been said that ext4 is a filesystem that is backward compatible with <ext3>, but also adds new features such as support for volumes up to 1 exabyte (1024 petabytes) and added extent support. Currently not supported by e2fsprogs (see bug #425477). |
| 20:09.26 | screamingbytes | if u have a dns name like wald0.com and your machine is named whereis, then 127.0.1.1 would be whereis.wald0.com |
| 20:09.41 | jelly-home | wald0: I've seen debian use 127.0.1.1 for the fqdn (127.0.0.1 being traditionally reserved for localhost), it makes some sense |
| 20:09.45 | Tramp | !tell articpenguin380 about selftell |
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| 20:10.00 | screamingbytes | wald0, otherwise no, just put your machine name in there no domain name or tld |
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| 20:10.15 | jelly-home | wald0: I use the real IP address for the fqdn |
| 20:10.28 | screamingbytes | wald0: but 127.0.0.1 is always localhost |
| 20:10.47 | wald0 | in what one i should set my hostname name then ? :/ |
| 20:11.05 | screamingbytes | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 20:11.14 | screamingbytes | 127.0.1.1 <hostname> |
| 20:11.18 | wald0 | ook |
| 20:11.20 | wald0 | thx :) |
| 20:11.49 | articpenguin380 | ext3 fragments |
| 20:12.13 | wald0 | screamingbytes: like this is good ? 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost |
| 20:12.19 | wald0 | or just localhost ? |
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| 20:12.39 | beware | the provider im on uses cd-rom for the rescue interface |
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| 20:12.54 | beware | so, whenever someone files rescue mode there's some guy walking to a box and inserting a cd. fun. |
| 20:13.05 | bjwebb | how do i restart alsa on debian? |
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| 20:13.08 | screamingbytes | just localhost, the 1.1 would be localhost.localdomain |
| 20:13.12 | NiCeBoY | hello, what is the ssh command to check for unmounted hard disks on my system please? |
| 20:13.14 | abrotman | archpollux: i'm not sure much has been done on it in quite awihle |
| 20:13.17 | screamingbytes | localhost.localdomain = fqdn |
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| 20:14.02 | beware | NiCeBoY, no idea if it helps, but try fdisk /dev/hda |
| 20:14.09 | beware | and then try this for all sensible names |
| 20:14.12 | beware | and see which ones are accepted |
| 20:14.40 | beware | as a bonus you can see the partitions |
| 20:14.50 | justin | I think yo umean /dev/hda1 or such |
| 20:14.55 | beware | no |
| 20:14.55 | abrotman | or -l |
| 20:15.02 | beware | i mean the name of the hdd |
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| 20:15.04 | abrotman | but just running fdisk doesn't seem good |
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| 20:15.55 | ManuP | hi. if i run mplayer in fullscreenmode, the video still is small - rest of screen black. how do i get it to fullscreen? |
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| 20:16.09 | Nostahl | hi all |
| 20:16.12 | bert | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:16.42 | screamingbytes | bert: does it auto mount your cdrom? |
| 20:16.42 | ktwilight[m] | am trying to compile nvidia-glx in lenny, by grabbing the source, edit control.in, dpkg-buildpackage, and install the necessary files to do a m-a a-i nvidia. however, i got stuck at m-a a-i nvidia, where it says "The source tarball could not be found" referring to nvidia-kernel-source (which i have installed from what dpkg-buildpackage built for me). the error also has "find: /usr/src/modules: No such file or directory" at |
| 20:16.43 | ktwilight[m] | the end of it. am stuck now, what is the solution for this? |
| 20:16.49 | archpollux | abrotman: yeah, that's why i'm asking, since, proposals date from 2004 |
| 20:17.30 | bert | screamingbytes, aparantly it isn't, could it have to do something with the updates I just did ? |
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| 20:18.14 | bert | it isn't automounting anything :s |
| 20:18.21 | Nostahl | is it possible to install debian on a new tower i just got over the network (it dosnt have a cd rom) |
| 20:18.58 | archpollux | Nostahl: yes, also even easier, check out the debootstrap package |
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| 20:19.42 | Ace2016-KDE3 | Anyone have an initng guide for debian? |
| 20:19.50 | abrotman | archpollux: and #multiarch on OFTC is dead ? |
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| 20:19.58 | Nostahl | how do i start the installation without a cd |
| 20:19.59 | bjwebb | how do i restart alsa? |
| 20:20.06 | screamingbytes | bert: possibly, start by checking your fstab, then check the deb site for auto mount scsi devices and see if your setup correctly. |
| 20:20.27 | screamingbytes | Nostahl: netinstall, grab an image from the debian site |
| 20:20.28 | bert | okey, thx screamingbytes, I'll do that ;) |
| 20:20.35 | cahoot | bjwebb: try alsa force-reload |
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| 20:20.46 | sepski | Nostahl, boot on network/usb/floppy. or move the HD to a working machine and install it there. |
| 20:21.06 | bert | does this look right: /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0 ??? |
| 20:21.29 | opensrcguru | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:21.45 | beware | can i get a "script" for debootstrap etch, because the debootstrap i have here doesn't have it |
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| 20:22.04 | screamingbytes | Nostahl: http://www.debian.com/distrib/netinst take your pick and select your architecture |
| 20:22.06 | archpollux | abrotman: OFTC? |
| 20:22.19 | abrotman | irc.oftc.net |
| 20:22.23 | Nostahl | those are for burning to cd's i thouht |
| 20:22.39 | abrotman | archpollux: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/multiarch-devel/2006-May/thread.html |
| 20:22.42 | bahadunn | seems like ReadmeName and HeaderName which is used in debian mirror sites is broken in etch |
| 20:23.06 | screamingbytes | Nostahl: the link i just posted had a section called "Tiny CD's, floppy disks, USB sticks, etc..." read a bit farther down |
| 20:23.17 | screamingbytes | s/had/has |
| 20:23.47 | ManuP | whats the package name for oms (open media system)? |
| 20:23.56 | Ace2016 | rc-update -s > sysinitv.all <<< whats the equivalent of that for debian? its from the gentoo initng wiki |
| 20:24.01 | arussel | I aptitude installed virtualbox but don't have the vboxdrv file, do I have anything else to do ? |
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| 20:24.55 | ServerSide | Do someone know how I can move my konversation channel bar from bottom to left? |
| 20:25.07 | danf_1979 | arussel: try getting virtualbox 1.5.2 from virtualbox website... I had the same problem :/ |
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| 20:25.18 | Ace2016 | ServerSide: #kde might now |
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| 20:25.46 | arussel | danf_1979: you mean the .deb ? |
| 20:25.53 | danf_1979 | yes |
| 20:26.06 | Ace2016 | ServerSide: Settings > Configure Konversation > Interface > Tabs, then pick left from the dropdown |
| 20:26.18 | arussel | danf_1979: thanks |
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| 20:26.45 | ManuP | ? |
| 20:27.05 | ServerSide | Ace2016: Thanks a lot :) |
| 20:27.15 | Ace2016 | np |
| 20:27.49 | Ace2016 | ManuP: search here packages.debian.org |
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| 20:28.31 | ManuP | Ace2016, k |
| 20:29.25 | grendal_prime | hey i hae a php app that is sending pages off via mail. Where would that likely be loged (if it is) i assumed it would be exim |
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| 20:31.57 | bahadunn | anyone know how to build apache modules in debian? |
| 20:32.15 | xuser_ | aptitude? |
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| 20:32.23 | bahadunn | oh brother |
| 20:32.26 | xuser_ | :P |
| 20:32.36 | bahadunn | modlayout is not available for apache2 |
| 20:32.42 | bahadunn | thus I need to build it manually |
| 20:32.47 | danf_1979 | grendal_prime: checked /var/log/mail.info ? |
| 20:32.53 | bahadunn | I need apxs for that but I do not know what package it is in |
| 20:33.14 | xuser_ | bahadunn: well, i'm sure apache.org has very good instructions on how to build it. |
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| 20:36.18 | dutchfish | hi, after > 1 year working flawless, vlc now barks at me with : The program '.' received an X Window System error. The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. (Details: serial 149 error_code 11 request_code 144 minor_code 5), anybody has a solution to fix this? |
| 20:37.17 | dutchfish | version: VLC media player 0.8.6a Janus |
| 20:37.21 | asg | dutchfish: iirc, it is a known issue due to the recent xorg-core update. Check the bts. |
| 20:37.44 | vlt | Hello. How can I check my own ssh fingerprint? |
| 20:37.49 | dutchfish | asg, oh, wow thx for the hint, already tried compiling from source with same results ... |
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| 20:38.05 | dutchfish | asg, is there a fix? |
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| 20:38.47 | valdyn | bahadunn: why dont you try 'apt-cache search apxs' ? |
| 20:39.37 | dutchfish | vlt, check /etc/ssh |
| 20:39.54 | bahadunn | valdyn: I did that yesterday and I got nothing |
| 20:39.59 | bahadunn | valdyn: now I get something |
| 20:40.01 | bahadunn | weird |
| 20:41.17 | valdyn | grendal_prime: that app might easily have its own mta |
| 20:41.29 | valdyn | grendal_prime: it wouldnt be logged then if not by that app |
| 20:41.42 | asg | dutchfish: not sure, the bts will list one if there is one |
| 20:42.02 | dutchfish | asg, searching right now, but thx mate! |
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| 20:42.56 | asg | dutchfish: |
| 20:43.04 | asg | dutchfish: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=461410 |
| 20:43.17 | asg | dutchfish: fix appears to be at the bottom (or at least a workaround) |
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| 20:44.02 | dutchfish | asg, thank you very much :) |
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| 20:45.30 | dutchfish | asg, ah ic, eclipse is affected too, good to know |
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| 20:46.56 | grendal_prime | valdyn: actually it does get loged in exim |
| 20:47.05 | grendal_prime | i found it... |
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| 20:47.54 | grendal_prime | now next question, where do you adjust the signiture of stuff sent through exim..i need it to send from the hostname of the box..not the domain. |
| 20:48.31 | grendal_prime | do i dpkg-reconfigure exim ? |
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| 20:50.45 | valdyn | grendal_prime: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config, if anything |
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| 20:51.04 | lurch | hi, im wondering how i can make it so when i sftp files from my user accout the group on the files on the server is set to a group i had made rather than just my user name? |
| 20:51.29 | chops | lurch: Make the incoming directory on the server g+s |
| 20:51.34 | chops | lurch: (setgid) |
| 20:51.51 | chops | lurch: You may have to adjust the umask on the server if you'd like the files to be group-writable or anything |
| 20:52.26 | lurch | chops: well i want to add www-data to the group as well so when i upload files the webserver will show them |
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| 20:52.37 | lurch | chops: right now keep getting access denied then i have to change the permissions |
| 20:52.58 | chops | lurch: Ah, okay. Yeah, setgid on the directory(ies) where the files go should work fine for you then |
| 20:53.16 | \amethyst | assuming they're created as group-readable |
| 20:53.32 | xif | how do I get the fully qualified name for an apt package, so that I can remove it? |
| 20:53.33 | lurch | chops: setgid is not a command it says |
| 20:53.45 | chops | lurch: chmod g+s |
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| 20:53.50 | \amethyst | lurch: chmod g+s directory; chown www-data directory |
| 20:53.54 | \amethyst | err |
| 20:54.01 | \amethyst | lurch: chmod g+s directory; chgrp www-data directory rather |
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| 20:54.12 | chops | xif: What package? |
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| 20:54.23 | chops | xif: "apt-cache search" is generally a good way |
| 20:54.35 | dutchfish | asg, yes, that solved it for both the package from repo, and my own compiled version of vlc (workaround) |
| 20:54.48 | xif | chops: I tried "$ apt-cache policy python-qt4" |
| 20:55.13 | xif | chops: got specific version numbers, but not the fully qualified name. |
| 20:55.35 | chops | xif: What do you mean by, "fully qualified name"? python-qt4 is the full name of the package. |
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| 20:55.50 | chops | xif: You may remove it with 'aptitude remove python-qt4'. |
| 20:55.56 | xif | chops: http://pastebin.com/m1033db32 |
| 20:56.06 | xif | I don't want to remove all python-qt4 packages |
| 20:56.17 | xif | just a specific version of the package. |
| 20:56.18 | Acxty123 | do you know a video to mp4 converter for debian |
| 20:56.24 | lurch | chops: the folder now has the right permissions but the files within it only get -rwx------ |
| 20:56.26 | xif | (as you can see, I have several installed) |
| 20:56.29 | valdyn | Acxty123: a WHAT? |
| 20:56.42 | chops | xif: (a) this is not #ubuntu, BTW (b) if you try to remove python-qt4 and it wants to remove more packages, it's because those packages depend on python-qt4 and won't work if you remove python-qt4. |
| 20:56.46 | Acxty123 | valdyn, a converter to convert avi, mpg to mp4 format |
| 20:56.58 | valdyn | Acxty123: you're confused, ok |
| 20:57.02 | dutchfish | Acxty123, transcode |
| 20:57.06 | valdyn | Acxty123: avi is a container format |
| 20:57.16 | valdyn | Acxty123: mp4 is JUST the same, a container format |
| 20:57.18 | HardDisk_WP | !nvidia one-liner |
| 20:57.18 | dpkg | i heard nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. |
| 20:57.19 | chops | xif: Saying 'aptitude remove python-qt4' will only remove python-qt4, not any other packages with related names, _unless_ the packages in question depend on python-qt4, which sounds like it's the case for you. |
| 20:57.30 | chops | lurch: You should adjust the umask for the FTP server then |
| 20:57.31 | valdyn | Acxty123: converting is rather pointless. |
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| 20:57.51 | lurch | chops: im not ftp im sftp ftp is not running |
| 20:57.53 | chops | lurch: See the documentation for the FTP server's configuration file; probably there's a 'umask' directive or similar |
| 20:58.03 | Acxty123 | some sony walkman don't reproduce avi, mpg only mp4 |
| 20:58.05 | chops | lurch: sftp server then |
| 20:58.16 | xif | chops: thanks, but the situation right now is that I have several versions of python-qt4 installed, and I just want to remove one of them. |
| 20:58.18 | valdyn | Acxty123: ok, alright, hold on |
| 20:58.22 | chops | xif: ? |
| 20:58.36 | terver | hello, if i have added "deb" for debian-multimedia in source.list, how do i sure that for example mplayer will be installed from DM rather than usual repo? |
| 20:58.37 | chops | xif: Why do you believe you have several versions of python-qt4 installed? |
| 20:58.49 | xif | chops: that paste says I have 4.3-2ubuntu7.1 and 4.3-2ubuntu7, no? |
| 20:59.00 | chops | xif: no |
| 20:59.02 | Asmooh | *offtopic* Honda Powerrrr !!! |
| 20:59.02 | xif | (under "Version table:") |
| 20:59.16 | valdyn | Acxty123: try 3gpwiz |
| 20:59.20 | chops | xif: That says that those are the versions available in one repository or other. The one with the "***" is the one that's actually installed. |
| 20:59.51 | xif | chops: ah, I see. so what's the best way to remove 4.3-2ubuntu7.1 and install 4.3-2ubuntu7? |
| 20:59.56 | chops | terver: apt will always install the most recent available version. You can use 'apt-cache policy' to examine which versions of a package are available. |
| 21:00.00 | chops | xif: Why do you want to do that? |
| 21:00.07 | terver | chops, thanks |
| 21:00.12 | chops | terver: np |
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| 21:00.52 | Acxty123 | valdyn, Already try to copy some 3gp files but still it don't play them, the only one is a mp4 |
| 21:01.06 | valdyn | Acxty123: 3gpwiz can convert to mp4 |
| 21:01.51 | valdyn | Acxty123: but that is not enough, you need to know which actual codecs for video and audio your device supports |
| 21:02.41 | valdyn | Acxty123: i already told you that mp4 is only a container and can contain anything, most of which your player wont be able to play |
| 21:03.07 | Acxty123 | ok, let me find out |
| 21:03.07 | xif | chops: I'm developing a python-qt4 app, and the more recent version breaks one of the APis |
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| 21:03.27 | vlt | Hello. I got some rsa/dsa pub keys here in /etc/ssh. How can I get their fingerprints? |
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| 21:03.41 | valdyn | Acxty123: its probably one of mpeg4 and h.263, both of which is supported by 3gpwiz, for the video data |
| 21:03.48 | valdyn | Acxty123: audio i'd guess mp3 or aac |
| 21:04.01 | valdyn | Acxty123: all within the mp4 container |
| 21:04.11 | Acxty123 | ok |
| 21:04.12 | chops | xif: What API was broken by that update? That looks like a backported security update or something to me; I'd be surprised if it wasn't a very small change. |
| 21:05.02 | xuser_ | if you choose desktop enviroment during installation what will it install? |
| 21:05.07 | xuser_ | this is the netcd |
| 21:05.20 | xif | chops: QtCore.pyqtRemoveInputHook was removed. |
| 21:05.22 | chops | xif: If you really want to, you can take gutsy-updates out of your sources.list and do 'aptitude reinstall --allow-downgrade python-qt4' or something (don't remember the exact syntax). |
| 21:05.26 | chops | xif: By that update? |
| 21:05.30 | xif | yes. |
| 21:05.54 | xif | chops: thanks a lot for your help, I'll look it up :-) |
| 21:06.00 | chops | xif: I don't believe you. You can do the downgrade and see how it works for you, though. Cheers. |
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| 21:06.16 | xif | chops: I didn't believe it myself at the beginning :-) |
| 21:07.24 | xif | this morning (~5 hours ago) the package was pushed via auto-update, and then the application stopped working. |
| 21:08.49 | xif | `Traceback (most recent call last): ... QtCore.pyqtRemoveInputHook() ... AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'pyqtRemoveInputHook'` |
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| 21:09.48 | vlt | I want to connect to my own ssh server. How can I check if the ssh fingerprint is correct? |
| 21:11.05 | beware | strictly, the only reliable way is to verify it through another channel than the ssh connection goes over |
| 21:11.16 | beware | such as phone, snail mail, or physical access |
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| 21:12.27 | chops | xif: You could check the changelog. I'd be more inclined to suspect that something went wrong with the installation of the new package than that a point packaging release removed a function from the API. |
| 21:12.41 | chops | xif: You could also ask in #ubuntu, where someone might happen to know something about that specific package. |
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| 21:14.17 | xif | chops: I agree, something weird happened there, but maybe because it's a security release something was actually removed (temporarily?) |
| 21:14.19 | vlt | beware: I _have_ access. I just don't know how to read out the fingerprint from the key files. |
| 21:14.55 | xif | chops: any idea where I can find that changelog? it's probably not on the PyQt website, as it seems to be an Ubuntu security update... |
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| 21:15.06 | xif | (#ubuntu is not of much help) |
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| 21:15.46 | chops | xif: /usr/share/doc/python-qt4/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 21:15.50 | chops | xif: Or something |
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| 21:16.04 | Kervan | Hi. I have a problem at Update Manager On "Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-17" On Gnome. Allways I see "There is 3 Updates Available" And I'm installing updates And I see the same updates Again. I'm installing the updates I see them again. Can you help me please How can I fix this problem... |
| 21:16.19 | dogwater | Howdy, is anyone aware if something has been changed in the ole structure of the stable release in the last 2 hours? |
| 21:16.41 | dogwater | I did a net install earlier today and now every time i try to do one it tells me it cant download package libss on multiple platforms |
| 21:16.46 | vlt | beware: I tried to create md5 and several sha sums from that files but nothing matches the shown fingerprint on the client ... |
| 21:17.01 | TheOnly | it's probably not the most correct channel to ask in, however, i'd be glad if anyone could assist me with some DNS configs for bind9 (it all seems to be operation, yet it is far from it) |
| 21:17.22 | dogwater | TheOnly: Pm me |
| 21:17.58 | xif | chops: thanks, looking into it. |
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| 21:18.20 | chops | Kervan: What 2 updates are they? |
| 21:18.25 | chops | Kervan: *3 updates |
| 21:20.05 | Kervan | chops: 1- comerr-dev 2-e2fsprogs 3-initscripts |
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| 21:21.36 | chops | Kervan: Can you pastebin 'apt-cache policy comerr-dev'? |
| 21:21.48 | chops | Kervan: Also, is there any error output from the update manager or anything? |
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| 21:22.26 | Kervan | chops: I don't see any error while update. Let me paste the output. |
| 21:23.28 | chops | Kervan: pasteBIN |
| 21:23.29 | chops | !tell Kervan about paste |
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| 21:24.01 | Kervan | chops: http://pastebin.com/m4ca26309 |
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| 21:25.38 | chops | Kervan: *blink* |
| 21:25.52 | vlt | I want to connect to _my own_ ssh server. How can I check if the ssh fingerprint is correct? I have access to /etc/ssh/ |
| 21:26.01 | chops | Kervan: Try 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade' |
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| 21:26.55 | chops | Kervan: That's a very odd output from apt-cache policy to me |
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| 21:28.08 | Kervan | chops: Its updating some packets. Why it is odd can you tell me if possible I want to know. |
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| 21:28.37 | chops | Kervan: Because the available version is the same as the installed version, but it's displaying them as if they were different |
| 21:28.43 | chops | Kervan: What packages is it updating? |
| 21:28.50 | s-andy | hi! is there any alternative for grsecurity which can be used in debian? |
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| 21:30.36 | grendal_prime | good god..i cant find anything on emableing rewrite.. in exim |
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| 21:31.50 | Kervan | Chops : I have closed the window. But I saw an text like "xserver-core" and some others I can't remember. But I think I have a problem too. please see : http://pastebin.com/m67219fbf |
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| 21:33.08 | chops | Kervan: What's 'apt-cache policy comerr-dev' say now? |
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| 21:33.27 | ShiftOnYou | hi all |
| 21:33.28 | chops | Kervan: Also, you should change 'stable' to 'etch' in /etc/apt/sources.list to avoid a nasty surprise when lenny releases |
| 21:34.04 | chops | Kervan: As for the NO_PUBKEY problem |
| 21:34.05 | Kervan | Chops : Update manager disabled now. And there is not any other update. This is new pastebin : http://pastebin.com/m5af915ae |
| 21:34.07 | ShiftOnYou | is there any good tutorial how i can setup my wlan on boot? if i config it... i only get error for wireless request "set mode".... |
| 21:34.09 | chops | !tell Kervan about etch key |
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| 21:34.17 | chops | Kervan: Ah, that's much better |
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| 21:34.53 | chops | Kervan: I have no idea how your packaging system could have gotten in such a state (actually, I thought of one possible way -- locally-compiled packages with the same version as the security updates could have been installed). |
| 21:34.59 | chops | Kervan: But anyway, it should be better now |
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| 21:36.32 | Kervan | chops: I think that I can understand now. I compiled "pptp" manually and I tryed to install it via aptitude. Thans It is working great now. |
| 21:36.49 | chops | Kervan: Makes sense |
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| 21:36.55 | sander_m | Hello. Does anyone have experience with mdadm software RAID? I am trying to find out the chunk size of an existing array. Unfortunately `mdadm --details /dev/md0` does not list that... |
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| 21:38.20 | kennae | Damn, no cairo-lcd and libxft-lcd packages for debian |
| 21:38.27 | kennae | Those look great on LCD-display |
| 21:38.34 | Kervan | OK chops Thanks a lot. |
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| 21:39.22 | Agiofws | is anyone using Vms-erver ? |
| 21:39.26 | RealityGone | MonaLisa[gambler == spambot |
| 21:39.48 | chops | Kervan: np |
| 21:39.52 | chops | !tell Agiofws about anyone |
| 21:40.05 | wols | RealityGone: onjoin or how? |
| 21:40.27 | RealityGone | not sure, just got a PM for free porn a moment ago. seemed a bit after i joined. maybe a timed onjoin |
| 21:40.45 | lurch | chops: im not finding where to add the umask tried in the ssh config but its not likeing that you know of any docs that have it? |
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| 21:42.29 | chops | lurch: Hm |
| 21:42.38 | Kervan | chops: can you take a look again : http://pastebin.ca/861492 There is stilla GPG error that I can't fix. |
| 21:42.45 | chops | lurch: I don't happen to, no :-( |
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| 21:42.57 | chops | lurch: I know umask is a command _in_ an sftp session... but that's not a very good solution. |
| 21:43.34 | lurch | chops: ok ill keep searching |
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| 21:45.50 | chops | Kervan: Try 'apt-get update' one more time. Do you get the error again? |
| 21:46.33 | xif | heh, the Debian package python-qt4-gl-dbg depends on python-opengl-dbg, which doesn't exist. |
| 21:47.28 | Kervan | chops: Yes I get the same error. |
| 21:48.05 | chops | xif: s/Debian/Ubuntu/? http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-qt4-gl-dbg does not mention python-opengl-dbg. |
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| 21:49.55 | xif | chops: yes, you are correct. seems to be something quite recent, done in the Ubuntu package alone. |
| 21:50.20 | xif | looks like there's a defect in the most recent python-qt4 package. |
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| 21:55.06 | xif | what do you guys do when you need to develop using particular libraries, and you don't want them to be auto-updated by apt? |
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| 21:55.31 | xif | (while you do want auto-updates for everything but those particular libraries) |
| 21:55.47 | Aciid | hello |
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| 21:55.52 | OhMyGod | hi |
| 21:55.56 | Aciid | when I try to change my password on debian it says |
| 21:55.58 | Aciid | passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. |
| 21:56.05 | Aciid | passwd: password unchanged |
| 21:56.06 | OhMyGod | how do I tell apt-build to build ALL xserver-xorg packages? |
| 21:56.11 | OhMyGod | it doesnt know Regexpes |
| 21:56.19 | embrik | I'm not able to open folders in konqueror - where do I read konqueror's log or any other logs telling me what's going on? |
| 21:56.43 | wols | OhMyGod: get the source, run dpkg-buildpackage on it |
| 21:57.07 | OhMyGod | not good...i want to go 2 bed now and let kde/xorg compile over night |
| 21:57.16 | OhMyGod | without big effort.. so not possible? |
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| 21:57.36 | wols | why is it not good? |
| 21:57.52 | OhMyGod | apt-build is good. but its not good that this isnt possible^^ |
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| 21:58.26 | embrik | I'm in trouble: I've got a lot of latops to distribute to some teachers. My problem is that Konqueror doesn't open home, nor filesystem |
| 21:58.29 | wols | I didn't mention apt-build |
| 21:59.00 | Aciid | hello why can't I cahnge my password? |
| 21:59.03 | Aciid | passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. |
| 21:59.14 | lurch | anyone know how to apply a umask so when i sftp files the permissions i want stick |
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| 21:59.22 | OhMyGod | wols: do you know something for apt-build then?^^ |
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| 21:59.52 | wols | OhMyGod: since you ignore what I type I ignore you too. HAND |
| 22:00.16 | dkr | have another nice doughnut? |
| 22:00.26 | OhMyGod | heh lol going the manual way is too complex for me |
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| 22:01.38 | tralala | OhMyGod, a single source package can produce multiple binary packages. I assume that's the case with xorg so if you give it a try you might discover dpkg-buildpackage is everything you need |
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| 22:01.52 | OhMyGod | hm |
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| 22:02.26 | helo | omg there is an open source subspace client! |
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| 22:02.40 | exes | any ideas on how to determine when a package was installed? |
| 22:02.50 | OhMyGod | tralala: hm...the input modules are in separate source pkg |
| 22:03.13 | helo | exes: you can look at the date in /var/cache/apt/archives/package.deb if you didn't wipe the archives out |
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| 22:03.24 | helo | (and if you installed with apt) |
| 22:03.32 | exes | :D |
| 22:03.37 | tralala | exes, and if you did you can check the timestamps in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 22:03.38 | exes | what if I did accidentally lol |
| 22:03.42 | helo | that will be when it downloaded |
| 22:03.52 | exes | great tralala |
| 22:03.58 | helo | you can look at the modification time for any files the package installed probably |
| 22:04.09 | helo | there you go :) |
| 22:04.19 | \amethyst | exes: also /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 22:04.58 | OhMyGod | *rant* weird shit... |
| 22:05.13 | tralala | OhMyGod, well another option is to use pbuilder - it's fully automated (I think) |
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| 22:05.17 | OhMyGod | why can't apt-build also build the dependencies -.- |
| 22:05.41 | OhMyGod | tralala: i take a look at it |
| 22:05.53 | embrik | On my new latop, and on the rest of the 21 latops for my colleagues: Konqueror stops when trying to open home-folder - anyone? |
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| 22:06.06 | bahram | HI all, my server is debian 4, Linux osp.ir 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 26 17:17:36 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linu |
| 22:06.34 | bahram | please help for run "tun" mod, error : FATAL: Module tun not found. |
| 22:06.35 | OhMyGod | embrik: what do you mean with "it stops" |
| 22:06.48 | OhMyGod | !pbuilder |
| 22:06.49 | dpkg | well, pbuilder is a package which creates a chroot for building packages which are optionally targetted at releases other than the currently installed release. It is useful for checking that a package has the correct build-dependencies as well. apt-get install pbuilder && pager /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/README.Debian |
| 22:07.32 | tralala | bahram, paste the output of modprobe -l | grep tun to http://rafb.net/paste |
| 22:07.39 | embrik | OhMyGod: it hangs, dies, stops - wont open the home folder - installed nautilus - works, but not konqueror - I must have konqueror |
| 22:07.42 | OhMyGod | tralala: i dont think that is the right thing for me |
| 22:08.01 | bahram | tralala, is empty ! |
| 22:08.21 | OhMyGod | embrik: checked if there is any shit in the home folder and if you can see other directories in kq |
| 22:08.30 | OhMyGod | run konqueror / and tell me if this also hangz |
| 22:08.33 | tralala | bahram, a custom built kernel? |
| 22:08.51 | embrik | OhMyGod: no shit - and no other directories |
| 22:09.02 | OhMyGod | also not in /? |
| 22:09.11 | xuser_ | after upgrading to sid, libsas and the kernel have been kept back, what is the correct way to upgrade them? |
| 22:09.20 | bahram | tralala, no!, install published distro of debian! |
| 22:09.21 | OhMyGod | dist-upgrade |
| 22:09.24 | \amethyst | bahram: is the package linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 installed? |
| 22:09.27 | OhMyGod | and you shall not upgrade to sid |
| 22:09.38 | OhMyGod | if you do not know what you do^^ |
| 22:09.45 | danf_1979 | embrik: try renaming ~/.kde and see if it works again (or ~/.kde4 if you have kde4) |
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| 22:10.39 | xuser_ | OhMyGod: I already did, should i run dist-upgrade again? |
| 22:11.16 | bahram | \amethyst, no, thanks |
| 22:11.46 | Timo^ | Hi. |
| 22:11.52 | Timo^ | how are ya guys ? |
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| 22:12.10 | OhMyGod | no then |
| 22:12.15 | OhMyGod | no idea for you |
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| 22:14.49 | |karma| | hi, How do I configure my default Java runtime environment to be sun-java-jre version 5? I have the correct sun java 5 packages installed, but I believe GCJ is set to be default. How do I switch it to Sun Java 5? |
| 22:15.02 | Timo^ | i got a question. i have installed samba on my debian computer and i got a problem installed it from tarbal (source) and i want to know how i can start it. #samba isn't responding at all and i thaugt maybe you guys know. (i hope) compiled it into /etc/samba/ |
| 22:15.15 | Timo^ | any of you guys know ? |
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| 22:16.58 | embrik | what do I do to find out if my hd is corrupt? |
| 22:17.13 | OhMyGod | Timo^: apt-cache search samba |
| 22:17.18 | OhMyGod | embrik: scan with badblocks |
| 22:17.30 | OhMyGod | embrik: maybe disable SATA NCQ |
| 22:17.36 | dkr | embrik: look for i/i errors in system logs |
| 22:17.42 | dkr | i/o that is |
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| 22:18.15 | Timo^ | lol. |
| 22:18.19 | dkr | |karma|: what distro? likely you need to run update-alternatives java |
| 22:18.23 | Timo^ | i don't want it to install from apt sourceas |
| 22:18.26 | Timo^ | though |
| 22:18.34 | Timo^ | OhMyGod*. |
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| 22:19.04 | embrik | ok, thanks - I've got 22 laptops IBM R61i. I installed a prototype and the dealer ghosted them for me. Something is wrong. Could that have happened in the ghosting operation? |
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| 22:20.03 | OhMyGod | embrik: yes |
| 22:20.20 | Timo^ | anyone knows how i can start the samba from source ? |
| 22:20.21 | OhMyGod | for example, if the disk image is corrupted. reinstall debian |
| 22:20.40 | OhMyGod | Timo^: why do you not want to run debian samba |
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| 22:21.41 | Timo^ | cuz i want to run 3.28 |
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| 22:21.49 | Timo^ | not a'n older version |
| 22:21.52 | OhMyGod | any specific need for this? |
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| 22:22.19 | embrik | OhMyGod: I use debian-edu - can I reinstall that without touching screen and wireless settings - screen and wireless gave me some problems |
| 22:22.40 | OhMyGod | heh lol no idea |
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| 22:22.52 | OhMyGod | sorry |
| 22:23.41 | bahram | \amethyst, thanks, install package and run tun but "ifconfig tun0" output is : tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found |
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| 22:24.07 | chops | !tell Timo^ about simple sid backport |
| 22:24.13 | embrik | OhMyGod: what logs do i look in to find error-messages? |
| 22:24.21 | OhMyGod | dmesg |
| 22:24.25 | OhMyGod | run this command |
| 22:24.29 | OhMyGod | dmesg|less |
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| 22:25.19 | pdb | does ps tell you how long a process has been running for |
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| 22:25.33 | Timo^ | !tell me about backports |
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| 22:27.43 | Chrom_ | greets guys |
| 22:27.49 | s[exe] | I think I changed my xorg.conf when I was trying to get my multiple monitors displaying the way I want to, but now that I've gone back to my original setup, I think my synaptics touchpad driver isn't loading properly. I've tried reinstalling the package to no avail... |
| 22:28.05 | OhMyGod | s[exe]: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 22:28.06 | chops | pdb: ps -Afw will tell you when a process was started |
| 22:28.38 | s[exe] | OhMyGod: i'll try that, thanks |
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| 22:29.31 | ezguy | hi, can you create filesystem on swap partition? |
| 22:29.32 | s[exe] | Do I want to use kernel framebuffer interface? |
| 22:29.58 | pdb | thanks |
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| 22:30.30 | pdb | how do i see what my load average is with ps? |
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| 22:31.08 | enouf | s[exe]: generally no |
| 22:31.20 | Chrom_ | you mean cpu load? |
| 22:31.25 | dkr | pdb: the same way you check your oil with top |
| 22:31.32 | enouf | s[exe]: not for X, it's slow |
| 22:31.41 | streuner_ | "Didn't your mother tell you to answer, when you're greeted?" is that correct? |
| 22:32.09 | dkr | streuner_: unnecessary comma |
| 22:32.11 | enouf | "reply", might be better than answer |
| 22:32.20 | Chrom_ | you don't see with ps but with top or htop |
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| 22:32.32 | dkr | or uptime |
| 22:32.38 | dkr | or cat /proc/loadavg |
| 22:32.39 | enouf | "respond", might even bet better still |
| 22:32.51 | streuner_ | enouf: so whats the whole sentence? |
| 22:33.11 | Timo^ | chops : i got this error when i insert the backports repos : http://pastebin.ca/861549 |
| 22:33.19 | Chrom_ | or by snmp query |
| 22:33.21 | enouf | "Didn't your mother tell you to respond when greeted?" (removed unnecessary you're) |
| 22:33.23 | streuner_ | enouf: s/answer/respond/? |
| 22:33.25 | s[exe] | enouf: My monitor's resolution/refresh rate combination isn't listed on the list |
| 22:33.30 | trumpen | dkr: what is the meaning of the fourth and fifth fields in /proc/loadavg ? |
| 22:33.31 | streuner_ | enouf: ah, thanks. |
| 22:33.32 | dkr | streuner_: "Didn't your mother tell you to speak when spoken to?" |
| 22:33.35 | chops | Timo^: samba 3.0.28 on sarge? |
| 22:33.39 | chops | Timo^: Oy vey |
| 22:33.42 | enouf | "Didn't your mother tell you to respond upon being greeted?" <-- better IMHO |
| 22:33.50 | chops | Timo^: You probably want to compile your own backport, or (much better) upgrade to etch |
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| 22:34.12 | chops | Timo^: Also, "/msg dpkg no public key" to find out about the public key problem |
| 22:34.14 | s[exe] | Hm. |
| 22:34.27 | s[exe] | What's the command to check what hardware is using what driver? |
| 22:34.33 | s[exe] | if such a command even exists... |
| 22:34.48 | enouf | streuner_: are you looking for the ever popular "didn't you're mother teach you any manners?" phrase? |
| 22:34.51 | Timo^ | chops : samba 3.0.28 on etch! |
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| 22:35.02 | Timo^ | i am running latest debian os. |
| 22:35.05 | chops | Timo^: Use etch-backports, then, not sarge-backports |
| 22:35.09 | dkr | trumpen: 5th looks like uptime. not sure about 4th |
| 22:35.10 | streuner_ | enouf: not me, friend of mine need to know |
| 22:35.15 | Timo^ | okay. |
| 22:35.16 | chops | Timo^: Was there a factoid that referred you to sarge-backports? |
| 22:35.20 | trumpen | dkr: thanks ;) |
| 22:35.26 | Chrom_ | with lsmod you see running kernel modules |
| 22:35.31 | Timo^ | google whas |
| 22:35.31 | Timo^ | ;p |
| 22:35.37 | chops | Timo^: Which page? |
| 22:35.40 | Chrom_ | this can be a starting point |
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| 22:36.07 | s[exe] | thanks ChanServ |
| 22:36.08 | s[exe] | er |
| 22:36.10 | s[exe] | ChanServ: |
| 22:36.12 | s[exe] | damnit |
| 22:36.13 | s[exe] | Chrom_: |
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| 22:36.18 | enouf | streuner_: i see .. that phrase is usually invoked whenever someone behaves immorally/unethically/inappropriately in social situations ;-) |
| 22:36.23 | Chrom_ | np |
| 22:36.44 | Timo^ | chops : when i search on backports.org on etch-backports i only find this : http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=samba&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=etch-backports |
| 22:36.45 | Timo^ | :( |
| 22:36.53 | Timo^ | did i do anything wrong out here? |
| 22:36.58 | Chrom_ | then you can use fuser to see what process is using a device |
| 22:37.07 | chops | Timo^: :-( |
| 22:37.10 | chops | Timo^: Looks right to me |
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| 22:37.12 | opensrcguru | if output of dmesg isn't too cluttered witH otHer stuff, tHe dirver will appear tHere wHen a pice of Hardware is initialized. |
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| 22:37.19 | chops | Timo^: You can still do a simple sid backport and see if it works for you |
| 22:37.26 | enouf | s[exe]: er, which driver? lspci -n | grep VGA |
| 22:37.33 | Chrom_ | for example /fuser /dev/modem |
| 22:38.17 | Chrom_ | sorry of course the first / is not needed |
| 22:38.30 | s[exe] | enouf: Well, my synaptics driver for my touchpad on this laptop isnt working |
| 22:38.32 | enouf | when dmesg is too cluttered with junk, look at /var/log/dmesg |
| 22:38.54 | enouf | s[exe]: i saw you mentioned something about monitor resolution |
| 22:38.58 | s[exe] | Oh |
| 22:39.01 | s[exe] | yeah |
| 22:39.08 | s[exe] | my xorg.conf is messed up |
| 22:39.16 | enouf | s[exe]: synaptic, i'm not sure |
| 22:39.18 | s[exe] | I was fooling around with multi-mon, and lost my original xorg |
| 22:39.38 | Timo^ | !tell me about simple sid backport |
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| 22:39.41 | s[exe] | it's not loading synaptics |
| 22:40.13 | s[exe] | the touchpad works, but the scrolly thing at the side and stuff doesnt, and I cant control sensitivity, etc. |
| 22:40.20 | enouf | s[exe]: check in /etc/X11/ xorg.conf-20080115 .. look for something like that - notice the date on the ls -l output |
| 22:40.36 | Timo^ | chops : Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) which one should i add ? it is not been backported though... ? |
| 22:40.51 | enouf | s[exe]: i'm not even sure i know what synaptics is o.O |
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| 22:41.10 | chops | Timo^: It's in sid. Add a deb-src line for sid, and you'll get the source of the current sid version. |
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| 22:41.31 | s[exe] | enouf: it's the touchpad driver for laptops :P |
| 22:41.40 | s[exe] | enouf: there's a backup there that I didnt notice before |
| 22:41.46 | s[exe] | enouf: I'll try that -- thanks a lot |
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| 22:41.57 | enouf | s[exe]: xrandr, hwinfo --monitor, grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log should be helpful |
| 22:42.07 | enouf | as far as 'resolution' |
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| 22:42.18 | enouf | not to mention your Manu monitor specs/manual |
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| 22:42.53 | Timo^ | chops: sid ? |
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| 22:42.59 | enouf | s[exe]: make sure that backup isn't from just now running drxx O.o .. that's the only time backups are auto made |
| 22:43.17 | screamingbytes | probably a stupid question but if i made a cdrom from iso using cdrecord, i can read it on linux but not windows anyone know why that might be? |
| 22:43.18 | chops | Timo^: sid == unstable |
| 22:43.23 | enouf | (generally) |
| 22:43.26 | chops | !tell Timo^ about grounding |
| 22:43.38 | enouf | screamingbytes: no -J ? |
| 22:43.45 | enouf | screamingbytes: no Joliet? |
| 22:43.55 | screamingbytes | i did not use -J |
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| 22:44.25 | screamingbytes | harumph, another coaster :) |
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| 22:44.39 | enouf | screamingbytes: see what isoinfo -d dev=/dev/cdrom says about that |
| 22:44.39 | screamingbytes | thanks enouf |
| 22:44.56 | screamingbytes | i did, and "No Joliet present" |
| 22:45.00 | enouf | screamingbytes: not guaranteeing anything though ;-) is it just data? |
| 22:45.07 | screamingbytes | yea just files |
| 22:45.08 | enouf | yep |
| 22:45.10 | enouf | ok |
| 22:45.30 | samo | hi all, i have a postfix courrier setup with sasl authentification and when trying to send an email i get the following message in auth.log : sql_select option missing |
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| 22:45.45 | samo | does someone know what i am doing wrong ? |
| 22:46.31 | s[exe] | Got it working |
| 22:46.34 | s[exe] | Thanks a lot for your help :) |
| 22:46.50 | enouf | cool s[exe] - always use drxx for reconfiguring X |
| 22:47.09 | s[exe] | enouf: I was using nvidia-settings to setup multimon |
| 22:47.26 | enouf | eww . proprietary? O.o |
| 22:47.30 | s[exe] | lol |
| 22:47.35 | s[exe] | it worked |
| 22:47.37 | s[exe] | just not the way I wanted |
| 22:47.38 | enouf | ok then |
| 22:47.47 | embrik | OhMyGod: how do I upgrade kde? I'm using etch |
| 22:47.48 | s[exe] | (and also my touchpad stopped working properly...>_>" |
| 22:47.52 | enouf | even more remarkable then :-P |
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| 22:48.51 | enouf | embrik: to what? |
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| 22:50.15 | fedya | i'm putting a swap on a separate disk, how big should it be for 1Gb ram? |
| 22:50.23 | abrotman | depends on what the system does |
| 22:50.26 | enouf | embrik: pastebin output of $ apt-cache policy kdebase |
| 22:50.41 | fedya | gonna try to put a couple small vmware appliances on it |
| 22:50.42 | enouf | embrik: and your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:51.02 | fedya | small dns/dhcp server, sip proxy, and nagios |
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| 22:51.19 | fedya | hopefully those 3-4 boxes can run on vmware without using too much mem :0 |
| 22:51.50 | phz | fedya: vmware will require quite a bit of RAM, so around 1 GB of swap I would say. But it's always hard to tell |
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| 22:52.06 | phz | fedya: If it runs too slow then more RAM is the only cure |
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| 22:53.52 | fedya | ok cool |
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| 22:54.07 | fedya | it's an extra 18 gig scsi disk so i guess it will ahve some wasted space for now |
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| 22:55.30 | kb3llm | umm -- is there a flash player that works on the PPC version of Debian? |
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| 22:55.43 | phz | kb3llm: Don't think so. Blame Adobe |
| 22:55.53 | amphi | kb3llm: gnash perhaps |
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| 22:56.10 | kjs | doing an "nsdc update" i get nsd-xfer: error: error response 2 |
| 22:56.17 | kjs | Any ideas? |
| 22:56.18 | phz | amphi: Yeah, that's true, haven't tested that one for ages |
| 22:56.27 | kjs | on the secondary dns server. |
| 22:56.35 | kb3llm | amphi: will gnash work with FF? |
| 22:56.50 | amphi | phz: nor I - I've been meaning to try it again |
| 22:56.58 | amphi | kb3llm: I believe so |
| 22:57.00 | abrotman | kjs: you might want to ask #dns or #bind .. but i'd check the syslog on both systems |
| 22:57.03 | abrotman | or messages |
| 22:57.16 | kjs | Also what is the command to reconfigure apt mirrors? |
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| 22:57.25 | abrotman | there isn't one anymore |
| 22:57.28 | abrotman | !sources.list |
| 22:57.28 | dpkg | [sources.list] the list of repositories for installing packages. /etc/apt/sources.list should have a line like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 22:57.30 | kjs | abrotman: will do, its not bind it's NSD :p |
| 22:57.38 | enouf | kb3llm: i use mplayer for the occassional .flv from youtube |
| 22:57.43 | abrotman | kjs: /msg dpkg mirrors .. to get the URL for mirror lists |
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| 22:57.50 | enouf | no browser plugin crap |
| 22:57.52 | kjs | abuzor: thanks |
| 22:58.16 | kb3llm | enouf: actually: |
| 22:58.16 | kb3llm | http://www.linux-sxs.org/multimedia/mplayermozplug.html |
| 22:58.28 | amphi | enouf: apropos browsers, have you tried midori? |
| 22:58.31 | enouf | right, plugin crap ;-) |
| 22:58.48 | enouf | amphi: haven't heard |
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| 22:59.15 | enouf | kb3llm: i don't need no stinking firepoop ;-) |
| 22:59.34 | kb3llm | the worlds coming to an end.. someone just put down Firefox. |
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| 22:59.42 | enouf | amphi: who makes it? where'd it come from? |
| 22:59.43 | amphi | enouf: webkit-gtk based browser, quite incomplete, but usable - escape from gecko! |
| 22:59.56 | enouf | kb3llm: i have much more to say about other apps too ;-) |
| 23:00.16 | amphi | enouf: http://software.twotoasts.de/?page=midori |
| 23:00.16 | enouf | amphi: ain't no geckos here ;-) |
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| 23:00.23 | Radish | I am running a server and I have up till now never used the usb ports.. today I plugged a webcam in and it said "Disabling IRQ #11" and no longer responded to ssh, http or anything.. I checked /proc/interrupts and it says IRQ #11 is eth0 |
| 23:00.32 | amphi | enouf: heh |
| 23:00.37 | enouf | amphi: cool, looking |
| 23:01.17 | \amethyst | Radish: hmm... did USB show up in /proc/interrupts ? |
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| 23:02.00 | xand | moo! |
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| 23:02.05 | xand | I am arrived. |
| 23:02.09 | Radish | no, amethyst |
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| 23:02.18 | kb3llm | xand: no -- apt-get moo!!! |
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| 23:02.46 | enouf | amphi: hrm, XBEL? lol wtf is that? i'm pretty happy with my super-fast links2 -g .. but perhaps, i |
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| 23:02.56 | themill | !moo |
| 23:02.57 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 23:03.06 | enouf | i'll bookmark, maybe play with it ;-) (depending upon amount of depends) |
| 23:03.17 | amphi | enouf: webkit is the big one |
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| 23:03.23 | enouf | ahh |
| 23:03.25 | amphi | enouf: svn is _slow_ |
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| 23:03.34 | enouf | heh |
| 23:04.20 | amphi | also webkit-gtk still depends on qmake and moc, which is a PITA |
| 23:05.05 | amphi | I had to get and build a bunch of qtopia crap for those |
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| 23:07.04 | karmatronic | hi there |
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| 23:07.49 | karmatronic | since last lenny s upgrade and gnome to 2.20, i lost the possibility to switch off the computer in my gnome session, does it ring a bell ? |
| 23:08.06 | embrik | enouf: I didn't se your posting - I'm reinstalling.. |
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| 23:09.51 | phz | karmatronic: When you say "lost the ability" do you mean the button is gone or it doesn't work? |
| 23:10.53 | karmatronic | phz: the button s gone .... |
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| 23:11.47 | karmatronic | phz: there s an opened bug report for what i see...their solution is as simple as "remove compiz" :) |
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| 23:12.35 | phz | karmatronic: You can switch off the computer with "shutdown -h now" in a terminal also |
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| 23:12.37 | bpun | mind me asking what module takes care of memory sticks (trying to format a handheld memory module)? |
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| 23:12.54 | lun0s | hey |
| 23:12.57 | enouf | bpun: depends, mmc ? |
| 23:13.01 | karmatronic | phz: of course, but that s not really user friendly |
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| 23:13.11 | karmatronic | phz: anyway , i think i found it |
| 23:13.17 | enouf | bpun: /sbin/modprobe -l |
| 23:13.21 | enouf | bpun: /sbin/modprobe -l | grep mmc |
| 23:13.32 | screamingbytes | enouf: that was all it took, along with -D and -joliet-long for the other whiney windows crap |
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| 23:13.49 | enouf | screamingbytes: you da man ;-) |
| 23:13.57 | screamingbytes | ty for the reminder |
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| 23:14.02 | enouf | np |
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| 23:14.26 | bpun | enouf, i modprobed mmc_core and mmc_block successfully ,, i tried fdisk-l and still doesnt show any other than /dev/hda.. |
| 23:14.49 | seto1 | does someone know a way to say to my acpi fan to start the fan only if the proc go up that 70 degre ? |
| 23:14.56 | enouf | bpun: your device might be a POS - is usb_storage and scsi_mod and sr_mod loaded? |
| 23:15.17 | ServerSide | ok i've a big problem: |
| 23:15.18 | ServerSide | When I'm not on my pc(idle'ing), my connection begins to be very slow and my irc-client begins to reconnect to irc servers because of the ping. But after that part, all the internet is slowing down, and i finally can't get any web page. I already tryed many things, restarting network-manger, modprobe -r ipw3945 & modprobe ipw3945 (that's my wlan(wifi) driver), but when i do that, my console crashs. The only way to get internet again is rebooting |
| 23:15.18 | ServerSide | computer(lame :/), and I sometimes have to push down on the OFF button because halt have problems with shutdowning network interface... Any help will be appreciated ;) |
| 23:15.20 | phz | seto1: Maybe (probably) fancontrol can help you |
| 23:15.55 | phz | seto1: I'm just trying to find out what the package name is... :-) |
| 23:16.06 | enouf | bpun: nothing like /dev/mmcblk0 or /dev/mmcblk0p1 in dmesg | tail ? |
| 23:16.40 | themill | !tell ServerSide about multiple ask |
| 23:16.41 | enouf | bpun: run udevmonitor as root and plug/unplug - any /dev/names created? |
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| 23:16.59 | seto1 | phz: yes I read the doc of fancontrol .. but my fan isn't detected with sensord (lm-sensor detect) .. |
| 23:17.33 | phz | seto1: Ah, OK, then I don't know. What software can detect you temperatures then? |
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| 23:18.01 | seto1 | the acpi command (and in /proc/acpi/thermal |
| 23:18.08 | dokma | hi. is there some command line util to detect text file encoding? |
| 23:18.21 | bpun | enouf, there's usb-storage i just loaded.. can't find scsi_mod or sr_mod |
| 23:18.26 | enouf | bpun: figure out what you have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_memory_cards and http://www.addonics.com/products/flash_memory_reader/images/aeiudd_solution.gif |
| 23:18.51 | screamingbytes | enouf: for some weird reason, i re-read the output info on the mkisofs and avg burn speed was 12x with just -r (rock ridge) when i did -r -D -J (long directories, and Joliet) it burned at avg 28x speed |
| 23:18.51 | enouf | !usb |
| 23:18.51 | dpkg | usb is, like, (Universal Serial Bus) A technology that has replaced the way that some peripheral devices connect to a computer. It is much faster than serial and parallel communications. It is also much more flexible: it will be able to connect to many devices simultaneously. http://www.linux-usb.org, or http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html |
| 23:18.55 | enouf | bah |
| 23:19.01 | phz | seto1: Well, a script that reads the temperature and acts accordingly and then running it with cron should do the trick |
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| 23:19.15 | phz | seto1: If you know a command for changing the fan speed that works |
| 23:19.34 | enouf | bpun: lsmod doesn't show it? scsi_mod 122220 1 usb_storage |
| 23:19.38 | screamingbytes | phz: just unplug the fan it will slow way way down |
| 23:19.45 | bpun | enouf, the type of card is a lexmar memory stick duo pro with magic gate... i have a sony vaio laptop with a builtin memory stick port |
| 23:19.46 | seto1 | phz: but I don't know how to change the speed .. maybee it's not possible |
| 23:19.48 | fedya | hm here's an interesting one, vmware installer can't find command killall on your computer, |
| 23:19.49 | screamingbytes | so slow it will appear that its almost not even moving |
| 23:19.51 | enouf | bpun: are you on debian? using a debian kernel? |
| 23:19.53 | fedya | can't seem to apt-get it |
| 23:20.05 | seto1 | I have a toshiba old laptop (a10 s811) |
| 23:20.06 | phz | seto1: Maybe not, if it can't be detected with lm-sensors |
| 23:20.37 | enouf | bpun: this is all i know about them, sorry - maybe google, or "/msg dpkg laptop" can help as well |
| 23:20.39 | bpun | enouf, i'm using a spare laptop that has this port .. hold on let me check something |
| 23:21.14 | enouf | bpun: i know some need Adapters to work |
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| 23:21.48 | phz | seto1: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ACPI_fan_control_script might help you |
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| 23:22.00 | bpun | enouf, do they all have like a /dev/mmc name even though some memory sticks are not made from mmc? |
| 23:22.16 | bpun | i mean sandisk |
| 23:22.24 | enouf | screamingbytes: well , it'll start slower and burn faster towards outer part of disk, you can pass the -speed= option |
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| 23:24.26 | enouf | bpun: see http://www.lanana.org/docs/device-list/devices-2.6+.txt (179) run "update-pciids" as root, SD cards are more IDE than USB no? |
| 23:24.53 | enouf | bpun: 179 block MMC block devices 0 = /dev/mmcblk0 First SD/MMC card 1 = /dev/mmcblk0p1 First partition on first MMC card 8 = /dev/mmcblk1 Second SD/MMC card |
| 23:25.35 | enouf | screamingbytes: there's also a dummy option (for testing ;-), trial run) |
| 23:25.47 | enouf | screamingbytes: using wodim? you should be ;-) |
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| 23:26.27 | fedya | how do i get killall on this thing? |
| 23:26.27 | enouf | screamingbytes: wodim{cdrecord} -prcap dev=/dev/name |
| 23:26.50 | enouf | fedya: try #vmware |
| 23:27.05 | fedya | killall is a linux program... |
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| 23:27.22 | enouf | no it's not, it's a GNU program |
| 23:27.34 | enouf | and neither is vmware |
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| 23:29.45 | fedya | sorry gnu program, nothing to do with vmware, killall being missing is something specific to debian distro hense why im asking here |
| 23:29.57 | The_PHP_Jedi | anyone had the /dev/dsp not available/found error in vmware? |
| 23:30.08 | The_PHP_Jedi | (when trying to use audio) |
| 23:30.14 | seto1 | and if I upgrade my bios ? .. hmm no |
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| 23:30.24 | The_PHP_Jedi | bah wrong chan |
| 23:30.37 | \amethyst | enouf: psmisc isn't GNU software AFAIK |
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| 23:34.12 | Gigantic | Hi, what do you think would be the best option, a AMD FX or a X2 ? |
| 23:34.27 | Gigantic | This for playing games with wine mainly |
| 23:34.29 | kennae | Intel indeed |
| 23:34.36 | Gigantic | Nah no intel |
| 23:34.59 | Gigantic | Evil inside |
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| 23:36.13 | cizzi | any of you guys know generators? i got one for my linux server... it dies when i remove the choke.. what happens if you run it with the choke on? |
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| 23:39.30 | fedya | how do you install current kernel headers? |
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| 23:40.43 | \amethyst | fedya: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 23:40.53 | Gigantic | yups |
| 23:41.05 | Gigantic | ap-get search whatever Also helps :p |
| 23:41.06 | fedya | thx |
| 23:41.10 | fedya | ah |
| 23:41.45 | fedya | where does it put them? /usr/src/linux/include? |
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| 23:42.33 | p1l6r1m | isn't it "apt-cache search"? |
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| 23:42.33 | themill | !search |
| 23:42.33 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'. Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org/ or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here. '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
| 23:42.33 | fedya | that would give you the packages downloaded on your computer i think |
| 23:42.44 | pdb | how fast do 7200rpm hard drives generally transfer data? |
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| 23:43.05 | aiss | Hello EVerybody. Is there anyone that can answer me on this error "ssl connection handshake failure" This is error is from my Firwall(VPN) what can cause this??? |
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| 23:44.31 | Gigantic | mm, bad certificate |
| 23:44.44 | Gigantic | expired, or communications interferred |
| 23:45.15 | Gigantic | check the certificate is valid before |
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| 23:45.25 | aiss | Gigantic, do you think it is the certificate? |
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| 23:45.42 | Gigantic | one possiblility |
| 23:45.45 | aiss | but other clients is working fine. But only client have this problem |
| 23:46.11 | enouf | \amethyst: yeah, my bad, nut it ain't the kernel ;-) (anyways. .. i gotta run) |
| 23:46.13 | Gigantic | maybe somebody hacked your station :p |
| 23:46.17 | enouf | a/nut/but |
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| 23:46.33 | vezult | I'm attempting to use xen 3.1 in lenny (amd64). However, when attempting to start xend, I get told that there is no hypervisor info in sysfs, which I assume means that my kernel does not have xen support. |
| 23:46.39 | lymeca_ | Why are there only sid sections of kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, and hurb-i386? |
| 23:47.00 | vezult | additionally, there are no linux-image-*-xen images or xen-system-* packages available. |
| 23:47.14 | vezult | how is one supposed to use xen in lenny? |
| 23:47.34 | Gigantic | Lenny? |
| 23:47.37 | Gigantic | again |
| 23:47.41 | lymeca_ | vezult: As I recal, there are no Xen kernel packages for lenny. |
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| 23:47.55 | lymeca_ | vezult: You could try downgrading to etch's 2.6.18 Xen kernel. |
| 23:48.15 | vezult | lymeca_: got it. I'll try that |
| 23:48.18 | lymeca_ | Not ideal but I'm fairly certain I had a lenny system running the etch Xen 2.6.18 kernel at one point,and it worked. |
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| 23:48.55 | Gigantic | unless you are a developer, don't touch Lenny >.< |
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| 23:49.12 | Guerin | Gigantic: no need to overreact |
| 23:49.18 | themill | !tell B-ker about away |
| 23:49.18 | Gigantic | ;p |
| 23:49.21 | Gigantic | srry |
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| 23:49.38 | Guerin | Gigantic: Lenny is for people who are intermediate to advanced users and want a more up-to-date system than Etch provides. |
| 23:49.52 | vezult | lymeca_: or maybe I'll just build my own |
| 23:50.00 | themill | and who don't mind a moving target... |
| 23:50.01 | Zharf | sid for developers :) |
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| 23:50.34 | maddash | how ironic is that? |
| 23:51.16 | lymeca_ | vezult: That's ideal honestly |
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| 23:52.30 | Gigantic | Well, I can't decide, X2 or FX.... will go make a few research |
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| 23:53.04 | wols | Gigantic: neither |
| 23:53.07 | vezult | lymeca_: if nothing else, it's an excuse to put my new dual-core through its paces. does make -j work when building a kernel? |
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| 23:53.31 | wols | vezult: of course |
| 23:53.49 | lymeca_ | vezult: Mmm, I got a dual-core Opteron running Debian Etch as a domain0 host with the Xen 2.6.18 etch kernel |
| 23:53.50 | Gigantic | I'm not going to change my motherboard! |
| 23:54.04 | wols | Gigantic: what mobo? S939? |
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| 23:54.18 | Gigantic | A8N32 SLi |
| 23:54.23 | Gigantic | Asus |
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| 23:54.57 | wols | at least you already have a PCI-E videocard |
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| 23:55.48 | Gigantic | yups, will get 2 8000 soon |
| 23:55.56 | Gigantic | but first will upgrade cpu |
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| 23:56.18 | wols | a 8800 will be cpulimited on your mobo |
| 23:56.45 | wols | not to mention any AMD CPU > 2GHz will be very expensive if you can even get it |
| 23:57.15 | Gigantic | X2 4600 costs 300 bucks here |
| 23:57.25 | cloakable | heh |
| 23:57.30 | cloakable | that's cheap |
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| 23:57.45 | wols | for that money you get a C2D, RAM and mobo and are still cheaper |
| 23:57.54 | wols | and faster at the end of course too |
| 23:57.57 | Gigantic | and Intel is way more expensive |
| 23:58.02 | wols | no |
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