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| 00:02.08 | sander_ | themill, abrotman: (nm-applet:3885): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. |
| 00:02.23 | abrotman | i don't play with it |
| 00:02.42 | themill | sander_: what were you trying to do? |
| 00:02.51 | Phil4 | guys, how easy is it to brute force the passwords in /etc/shadow? |
| 00:02.54 | sander_ | start nm-applet from a console |
| 00:03.06 | et | Phil4: depends on the password. |
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| 00:03.48 | Phil4 | et, I'm taking a look at a previously hacked server and would like to basic dictionary attack the other passwords to find some insecure ones |
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| 00:04.04 | Phil4 | as the reason it was hacked because someone was using a stupid password |
| 00:04.27 | abrotman | cracked |
| 00:04.35 | Phil4 | yes, cracked |
| 00:04.36 | Phil4 | haha |
| 00:04.45 | Phil4 | installed denyhosts now |
| 00:04.50 | Phil4 | but I'd like to check anyway |
| 00:04.51 | themill | and also quite unlikely unless the password and login name were both "john" |
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| 00:05.01 | abrotman | Phil4: there are a few apps to brute |
| 00:05.05 | mbroeker | in which format are your pwds stored? |
| 00:05.27 | Phil4 | mbroeker: e.g. $1$rVk0YgE0$/iTxeYbjrrN5u.3mrIg6v/ |
| 00:05.27 | kgoetz | Phil4: look at cracklib +libpam-cracklib to enforce strong passwords perhaps |
| 00:05.28 | mbroeker | md5 or crypt or something else? |
| 00:05.32 | mbroeker | crypt |
| 00:05.40 | Phil4 | is it salted? |
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| 00:05.46 | mbroeker | yes it is salted |
| 00:05.46 | kgoetz | in shadow crypt surely |
| 00:06.11 | mbroeker | $1$ salt$key |
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| 00:06.38 | Phil4 | ah, ok |
| 00:06.53 | o2T7 | hi |
| 00:06.53 | Phil4 | cracklib sounds interesting, kgoetz |
| 00:06.55 | Phil4 | will take a look |
| 00:07.01 | abrotman | Phil4: most are md5 now .. |
| 00:07.02 | o2T7 | Any wake-on-wan tool? |
| 00:08.02 | abrotman | to send or receieve ? |
| 00:08.09 | DustyBin | 00:02 < Phil4> guys, how easy is it to brute force the passwords in /etc/shadow? |
| 00:08.12 | DustyBin | install fail2ban |
| 00:08.22 | Phil4 | lemme check that out |
| 00:08.22 | abrotman | that only solves part of the issue |
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| 00:08.40 | themill | different question, but probably part of the answer... |
| 00:08.42 | abrotman | o2T7: apt-cache search WOL |
| 00:08.43 | DustyBin | Phil4: use strong random passwords |
| 00:08.54 | abrotman | wow .. way to catch on |
| 00:09.02 | DustyBin | Phil4: dont allow root access on ssh |
| 00:09.07 | Phil4 | DustyBin, not my server and it sadly is used by idiots |
| 00:09.15 | o2T7 | abrotman, i found wakeonlan and etherboot, but aren't the only for lan networks? |
| 00:09.17 | Phil4 | DustyBin, root password login was disabled |
| 00:09.26 | vinc456 | hello, does anyone know of a package that will allow you to save a process to disk? I'd like a GNU screen session to persist even after reboot |
| 00:09.26 | Phil4 | it was a non-prived user account that was hacked |
| 00:09.30 | abrotman | o2T7: are you trying to wake up the internet ? |
| 00:09.50 | Phil4 | but they downloaded 50Gb of warez and used it as a mirror for a few hours before I noticed |
| 00:10.02 | o2T7 | yes, i want to wake up a station from another internet location |
| 00:10.02 | DustyBin | Phil4: did they get root ? |
| 00:10.09 | Phil4 | DustyBin, luckily, no |
| 00:10.17 | Phil4 | from .bash_history, they looked pretty dumb |
| 00:10.24 | Phil4 | the types of command they're running etc. |
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| 00:10.37 | o2T7 | I have seen online tools, but it would be great to have an installed one |
| 00:10.37 | DustyBin | Phil4: probably a script kiddie |
| 00:10.45 | Phil4 | DustyBin, looks that way |
| 00:10.52 | Phil4 | interestingly, the username was bondster |
| 00:10.57 | Phil4 | and it was targeted directly |
| 00:11.03 | zinx | vinc456: such a thing would be difficult to implement. if you use suspend to disk, or just restart the process on reboot, that would be much better, and much easier :/ |
| 00:11.34 | DustyBin | Phil4: fail2ban can completely lock out a bot after a certain amount of attempts |
| 00:11.36 | zinx | vinc456: cron, among other things, can start processes when the computer is restarted |
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| 00:11.52 | Phil4 | DustyBin, I have just installed denyhosts for that |
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| 00:12.07 | Phil4 | slightly easier to maintain as it uses /etc/hosts.deny rather than firewall rules |
| 00:12.12 | DustyBin | Phil4: fail2ban can work on any service you choose |
| 00:12.25 | vinc456 | zinx: ok, thanks |
| 00:12.32 | Phil4 | DustyBin, denyhosts works on the major ones I need |
| 00:12.44 | DustyBin | ok |
| 00:12.52 | Phil4 | thanks for the suggestion though |
| 00:12.53 | techouse | can anyone here help me set up iptables? i've done the most, bu i think i have an error in my bash script |
| 00:12.56 | techouse | anyone? |
| 00:13.17 | petemc | techouse: what happens when you run it? |
| 00:13.32 | techouse | can i /msg you? |
| 00:13.45 | petemc | why not keep it in channel |
| 00:13.48 | techouse | i don't want everyone to see my open ports |
| 00:13.55 | techouse | :D |
| 00:14.00 | DustyBin | techouse: there is only 1 way to setup iptables if your a noob, just install: arno-iptables-firewall - Single- and multi-homed firewall script with DSL/ADSL support |
| 00:14.02 | petemc | i wouldnt worry about that |
| 00:14.06 | techouse | ok |
| 00:14.18 | zinx | techouse: if it matters, then you have already lost.. but if you do paste it somewhere, please use a pastebin |
| 00:14.22 | techouse | i've done the most, but when i load the .sh script it just gives me this error http://pastebin.com/m352b1356 |
| 00:14.28 | techouse | here's the bash script http://pastebin.com/d4ba59d5 |
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| 00:15.24 | Phil4 | hrmmmm |
| 00:15.47 | Phil4 | just installed libcrack2 and its pam support |
| 00:16.02 | Phil4 | allows me to use 'elephant' but says 'fishing' is too simple |
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| 00:16.33 | techouse | petemc: if you got any clue? i got the script from a friend who said it works for him |
| 00:16.45 | techouse | i just edited the ports myself |
| 00:18.40 | ericP | the gain on my touchpad and whatever you something-or-other stick (button between the 'G' and 'H' keys) is completely different |
| 00:19.13 | ericP | the touchpad is tonnes slower, both in gpm and (slightly less so) in X |
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| 00:21.06 | petemc | techouse: add -x to the bang line, #!/bin/bash -x , you'll see what its doing |
| 00:22.15 | techouse | heh...how do i flush iptables in 1 command? of do i have to -F all commands? |
| 00:22.46 | techouse | brb |
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| 00:23.52 | techouse | hmm |
| 00:23.53 | techouse | 1 sec |
| 00:23.56 | AARGH | aaaaaaaaargh!!!! |
| 00:23.57 | master_alvaro | hello |
| 00:24.03 | AARGH | wasted 5 hrs on compiling KDE |
| 00:24.15 | AARGH | And now I find out ALL THE TIME WAS WASTED!!!!!!!! |
| 00:24.30 | azeem | AARGH: wrong channel? |
| 00:24.31 | master_alvaro | can you check it: http://wklej.org/id/f3c47aacc2? please... i have runtime error (gcc) |
| 00:24.46 | AARGH | why the hell are the versions of apt-get source DIFFERENT of the BINARY things?!?? |
| 00:25.02 | AARGH | Oh how that sucks. |
| 00:25.14 | techouse | petemc: it does this http://pastebin.com/d29aab4c9 |
| 00:25.22 | ericP | man synaptics(5) reveals a truly awesome input device |
| 00:25.33 | ericP | i can never hope to be worthy of this piece of technology |
| 00:25.41 | AARGH | I mean, it should normally be that if I download the source for a package and then build the .deb, that APT does NOT want to upgrade |
| 00:26.04 | azeem | AARGH: what is your actual problem? |
| 00:26.15 | AARGH | that I want a self-compiled KDE. |
| 00:26.22 | petemc | techouse: read through it |
| 00:26.25 | AARGH | So I downloaded all the KDE source packages with apt-source |
| 00:26.30 | AARGH | And compiled them |
| 00:26.49 | techouse | # |
| 00:26.49 | AARGH | And now I run apt-get install xy and find out ALL the KDE packages are outdated!! |
| 00:26.49 | techouse | /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i ppp0 -p TCP -d --dport 22 -j ACCEPT |
| 00:26.49 | techouse | # |
| 00:26.50 | techouse | Bad argument `22' |
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| 00:26.51 | azeem | AARGH: so apparently you did something wrong |
| 00:26.53 | Phil4 | question... which would brute force a password quicker... p4 2.4gb with 512mb or Sempron 2500+ (1.7Ghz) with 2Gb? |
| 00:26.54 | techouse | huh? |
| 00:26.55 | themill | Well that summarises the problem...": [00:26] <AARGH> that I want a self-compiled KDE." |
| 00:27.03 | themill | !tell techouse about paste |
| 00:27.03 | techouse | is the number in the wrong format?! |
| 00:27.14 | techouse | ok...paste...it's 4 lines :D |
| 00:27.22 | azeem | AARGH: maybe KDE got uploaded between the time you downloaded the source and you were done compiling |
| 00:27.30 | AARGH | azeem: the question is WHAT i did wrong... no inconsistent shit in the sources.list |
| 00:27.30 | azeem | AARGH: /msg dpkg hold |
| 00:27.45 | petemc | techouse: -d --dport 22 |
| 00:27.47 | AARGH | for 230 packages? You're joking... |
| 00:28.06 | themill | AARGH: can you provide us with apt-cache policy <packagename> for a couple of those packages? |
| 00:28.28 | techouse | petemc: huh? it is like that |
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| 00:29.22 | AARGH | themill: should be at http://harddisk.is-a-geek.org/cache |
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| 00:29.33 | AARGH | I installed them all manually via dpkg, btw |
| 00:29.34 | petemc | techouse: -d needs an argument |
| 00:29.45 | techouse | hmm |
| 00:29.54 | techouse | i figured that |
| 00:30.02 | techouse | i'm looking for what argument |
| 00:30.11 | petemc | the destination address |
| 00:30.20 | themill | AARGH: so you're tracking testing, self-compiling things, and you're surprised when the version of kde in testing is bumped? |
| 00:30.45 | AARGH | the versions were the same before and now |
| 00:30.46 | techouse | petemc: it needs the ip |
| 00:31.21 | techouse | but the guy used a constant as ext_ip1=`ifconfig | grep 89.142|awk '{print $2}'| cut -d : -f 2`; and calls it in the script |
| 00:31.29 | going_mad | themill: anyway, how do I get rid of the dozens of -dev packages? |
| 00:31.29 | techouse | apparently something ain't working |
| 00:32.00 | themill | going_mad: btw the .de mirror is probably a better option for you than ftp.debian.org |
| 00:32.12 | techouse | petemc: carp the command needs sudo |
| 00:32.15 | going_mad | you mean for speed? |
| 00:32.24 | going_mad | at a DSL 2k line speed makes no diff ^^ |
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| 00:32.28 | techouse | if i add sudo in it will it give an error? |
| 00:32.41 | petemc | techouse: thats isnt your problem |
| 00:32.44 | petemc | s/ts/t/ |
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| 00:33.17 | themill | going_mad: if you are going to recompile the packages, then it's best to either bump the version in the changelog or put them in your own repo so that you can pin them more easily. Look at what dpkg told you about hold. |
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| 00:33.54 | going_mad | i dont want to put 200 packages to hold...i'll just stick to the precompiled stuff, that saves nerves... |
| 00:33.57 | techouse | petemc: well it sure seems like it, since ext_ip1=`ifconfig | grep 89.142|awk '{print $2}'| cut -d : -f 2`; and $ipt -A INPUT -i $if_ext -p TCP -d $ext_ip1 --dport $port -j ACCEPT |
| 00:34.30 | themill | !gentoosmite going_mad and AARGH |
| 00:34.42 | petemc | techouse: if you dont want to listen to me thats fine - good luck |
| 00:35.06 | techouse | well...i do want to listen, but you don't talk much ;) |
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| 00:35.24 | techouse | i just saw it on the 1st scan |
| 00:35.38 | petemc | techouse: its not getting an argument to -d , so presumably $ext_ip1 is empty |
| 00:35.38 | techouse | petemc: what is the problem then? |
| 00:35.39 | themill | techouse: yes, but petemc has a very high signal:noise so he doesn't need to say much... |
| 00:36.20 | petemc | shucks |
| 00:36.33 | techouse | it doesn't say anything cause ifconfig | grep 89.142|awk '{print $2}'| cut -d : -f 2 doesn't output anything, however sudo ifconfig | grep 89.142|awk '{print $2}'| cut -d : -f 2 does |
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| 00:36.47 | techouse | that's my point |
| 00:37.41 | techouse | the thing is, he made this thing for kubuntu where ifconfig doesn't requie a sudo |
| 00:37.50 | themill | bollox |
| 00:37.51 | techouse | require* |
| 00:38.03 | petemc | you just need to have it in your path |
| 00:38.12 | techouse | how then? |
| 00:38.25 | petemc | use the full path, if thats what you think the problem is |
| 00:38.59 | techouse | full path being what? |
| 00:39.07 | kgoetz | or add the path to the script |
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| 00:39.13 | petemc | that script appears to have other errors, tho |
| 00:39.22 | themill | techouse: e.g., /sbin/ifconfig |
| 00:39.46 | techouse | themill: ipt="/sbin/iptables" |
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| 00:39.49 | techouse | that? |
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| 00:42.16 | vinc456 | !fail2ban |
| 00:42.17 | dpkg | fail2ban is a small python program that runs rules when people fail to logon after a certain number of tries. By default it works with <ssh> and <iptables>, but can be extended to whatever authentication and access denial system you're using. |
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| 00:42.44 | techouse | hmm...maybe it's cause i'm the owner of the file and not root |
| 00:42.46 | techouse | 1 sec |
| 00:42.50 | techouse | lemme try this |
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| 00:43.46 | strloop | Hello, using gpg what is the way to get a public key from something key id? |
| 00:44.14 | vinc456 | !iptables |
| 00:44.14 | dpkg | iptables is probably the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: <masq>, or try #iptables for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450 |
| 00:44.54 | neant | .. hey i have a stupid question it's not really related to debian BUT.. i installed xmame-sdl with apt-get and i cant find a way to disable sound during gameplay hehe.. so if someone know pls tell me ? |
| 00:45.26 | Penix | neant: read the manual. there's bound to be a no-sound argument |
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| 00:50.03 | ferret_0567 | how is Debian Sid? |
| 00:50.20 | ferret_0567 | is it stable? because it seems to come with up-to-date software |
| 00:50.29 | ferret_0567 | I checked on DistroWatch |
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| 00:50.52 | Zharf | if you're not a developer, you should probably use lenny |
| 00:50.56 | techouse | same shit :P |
| 00:51.13 | ferret_0567 | ok... |
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| 00:51.21 | techouse | petemc: help? |
| 00:51.38 | ferret_0567 | can I manually make packages for the latest gcc and stuff? |
| 00:51.58 | ferret_0567 | the latest perl as well, all under /opt? |
| 00:52.10 | Penix | ferret_0567: no. debian doesn't use /opt |
| 00:52.14 | Penix | !tell ferret_0567 -about backports |
| 00:52.34 | Penix | ferret_0567: don't use unstable |
| 00:52.39 | ferret_0567 | !tell me about backports |
| 00:52.46 | ferret_0567 | !tell about backports |
| 00:52.51 | Penix | !tell ferret_0567 about msg the bot |
| 00:52.54 | techouse | ferret_0567: i once compiled gcc....it's like 650 MB of svn files; never do that again |
| 00:53.03 | kgoetz | how is opt relevent? |
| 00:53.07 | Penix | it's not |
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| 00:54.23 | ferret_0567 | techouse, sourcemage gnu/linux comes with at least gcc 4.2.1 |
| 00:54.27 | ferret_0567 | same as lenny |
| 00:55.02 | elmo40 | wols: is it sunday yet? |
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| 00:55.12 | ferret_0567 | ouch, and what about backporting the whole of GNOME? |
| 00:55.28 | Penix | ferret_0567: you don't do it yourself. someone else would've already done it |
| 00:55.35 | ferret_0567 | and not to mention gtk |
| 00:55.42 | ferret_0567 | Penix, why not? |
| 00:55.45 | Penix | ferret_0567: read what the bot told you and go to the site/read the docs |
| 00:55.48 | Penix | ferret_0567: why would you? |
| 00:55.56 | ferret_0567 | because I can, that's why |
| 00:56.06 | Penix | then go do it and waste your time. don't ask us for support |
| 00:56.23 | Penix | otherwise, use the site that loads of wonderful volunteers have set up with great packages |
| 00:56.36 | techouse | ferret_0567: gcc svn has 160.000files |
| 00:56.56 | HA | Question: How do I mount a .img file? Normally, with an iso file, I would just run mount -o loop -t iso9660 cdimage.iso /mnt/tmp |
| 00:56.58 | elmo40 | ferret_0567: who needs support? i dont like bra's either! ;) |
| 00:57.18 | Penix | HA: find out what sort of filesystem is inside the img file |
| 00:57.18 | ferret_0567 | Penix, there are only etch-backports |
| 00:57.36 | ferret_0567 | file <file.img> |
| 00:57.38 | ferret_0567 | try that |
| 00:57.39 | mbroeker | f^^ |
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| 00:57.47 | Penix | ferret_0567: yes. and? |
| 00:57.49 | mbroeker | too fast, i am too slow |
| 00:57.56 | HA | I have image.sub, image.img and image.ccd |
| 00:58.01 | Penix | ferret_0567: you're using lenny? what's wrong with gcc 4.2.1 and gnome 2.20? |
| 00:58.05 | ferret_0567 | I want to use Debian Lenny |
| 00:58.49 | ferret_0567 | Penix, err...Lenny "nautilus: 2.18.3" |
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| 00:59.00 | ferret_0567 | that's what distrowatch says |
| 00:59.17 | ferret_0567 | I want the latest GNOME |
| 00:59.32 | kgoetz | ferret_0567: then jhbuild it |
| 00:59.37 | Penix | stop listening to distrowatch for a start |
| 00:59.59 | ferret_0567 | Penix, ok, then what does the package layout in relation to sid really say? |
| 01:00.21 | ferret_0567 | I want as new software as possible |
| 01:00.35 | Penix | 2.20's probably slowing making its way in to lenny I'd assume |
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| 01:00.44 | Penix | lots of gnome packages are 2.20 already |
| 01:00.54 | elmo40 | ferret_0567: if you have to ask, then you dont want the latest... |
| 01:01.18 | Penix | it's not like .20 is radically different from .18 anyway |
| 01:01.22 | elmo40 | besides, 2.20.0-3 is in unstable. |
| 01:01.29 | ferret_0567 | questionable stuff: xorg, gtk, firefox |
| 01:01.42 | elmo40 | ya, who needs xorg anyways. |
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| 01:01.44 | ferret_0567 | I wonder what versions those are really at |
| 01:01.54 | Penix | ferret_0567: go find out with packages.debian.org |
| 01:02.04 | ferret_0567 | elmo40, I need it for IM, web browsing, and that's about it |
| 01:02.12 | Penix | then you don't need sid |
| 01:02.13 | HA | No idea on my issue? |
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| 01:02.33 | ferret_0567 | HA: I said try "file <filename>.img |
| 01:02.33 | HA | should I just use image.img or image.ccd? |
| 01:02.42 | HA | Never saw that one. =p |
| 01:02.47 | HA | I tried it |
| 01:02.49 | HA | I got this |
| 01:02.58 | elmo40 | ferret_0567: you dont need xorg to im, web browse. use a framebuffer! |
| 01:03.15 | Penix | more importantly, you don't need sid for any of it |
| 01:03.19 | ferret_0567 | elmo40, ew, Lynx sucks for that |
| 01:03.25 | HA | I got this: http://190.172.92.198/message.txt |
| 01:03.27 | ferret_0567 | elmo40, and so does CenterIM |
| 01:03.29 | elmo40 | then try links2 -g |
| 01:03.34 | ferret_0567 | already did |
| 01:03.36 | ferret_0567 | it sucks |
| 01:03.42 | Penix | HA: that's from you trying to mount it |
| 01:03.48 | HA | Yep |
| 01:03.53 | elmo40 | sure it does. works like a charm for me! |
| 01:03.59 | Penix | doesn't give any useful information |
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| 01:04.07 | HA | ok |
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| 01:04.16 | HA | mount -o loop -t iso9660 image.img /mnt/tmp |
| 01:04.22 | ferret_0567 | elmo40, let me guess...you don't use flash, java, or any other plugins in your web browser... |
| 01:04.24 | HA | that's what I tried, is it usefull? |
| 01:04.28 | Penix | we already know you did that |
| 01:04.40 | Penix | obviously it's not iso9660 inside the file |
| 01:04.42 | elmo40 | ferret_0567: they slow my computer down ;) |
| 01:04.44 | ferret_0567 | and you like web pages without CSS or PHP |
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| 01:04.48 | Penix | HA: find out what *is* inside it |
| 01:04.48 | HA | Ohhhh |
| 01:04.50 | ferret_0567 | elmo40, your computer sucks\ |
| 01:04.51 | HA | Now I get it |
| 01:04.55 | HA | How can i do that? |
| 01:04.56 | elmo40 | links2 handles css and (some) js |
| 01:05.03 | ferret_0567 | barely |
| 01:05.04 | ferret_0567 | hahaha |
| 01:05.05 | elmo40 | and i believe it handles php. |
| 01:05.18 | Penix | HA: like ferret_0567 said, file <file.img> for a start |
| 01:05.19 | elmo40 | ferret_0567: what do you know, you want to use nautilus! |
| 01:05.37 | ferret_0567 | elmo40, not necessarily, I just wanted to know what the version was |
| 01:05.40 | Penix | links has nothing to do with php |
| 01:05.42 | HA | image.img: data |
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| 01:05.58 | ferret_0567 | I plan on using thunar, openbox (or fvwm-crystal), conky, and root-tail |
| 01:06.12 | elmo40 | Penix: i forgot... it is only server side stuff ;) |
| 01:06.17 | Penix | HA: if it's got a ccd file involved, it might be some sort of Windows crap you need a special tool for. |
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| 01:06.18 | ferret_0567 | HA: hexdymp it |
| 01:06.27 | elmo40 | thiunar is nice. needs some more features, but still nice. |
| 01:06.29 | ferret_0567 | hexdump, I mean |
| 01:06.31 | elmo40 | *thunar |
| 01:06.34 | HA | [23:04] <Penix> HA: if it's got a ccd file involved, it might be some sort of Windows crap you need a special tool for. <----- Windows ISO, as a matter of fact. |
| 01:06.43 | HA | I want to try running a VMachine |
| 01:06.49 | ferret_0567 | oh |
| 01:06.54 | ferret_0567 | ok then |
| 01:07.28 | HA | All this ... because I want to set up a TeamFortress Classic Dedicated Server =p |
| 01:07.39 | Penix | CS? |
| 01:07.43 | elmo40 | and why openbox? why not fluxbox? or enlightenment? |
| 01:08.12 | HA | o, not CS. TFC |
| 01:08.14 | HA | Another mod. |
| 01:08.42 | Penix | why aren't you using the linux server? |
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| 01:09.09 | HA | There IS one? |
| 01:09.31 | HA | The other day I got re-directed to Debian-games asking for a UT server in linux and I NEVER got an answer |
| 01:09.42 | HA | so I figured it would be better/faster to mount a VM using windows. |
| 01:09.58 | mbroeker | HA: i never tested this piece of software and i dont know how to use it: but maybe... http://www.acetoneiso.netsons.org/ |
| 01:10.23 | HA | and forget about crying and whinning about why I can't run games.=p |
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| 01:10.29 | Penix | there seems to be a linux server according to google |
| 01:10.30 | HA | I'll try it, mbroeker. |
| 01:10.36 | ferret_0567 | it has new enough software for me |
| 01:10.52 | ferret_0567 | anything that is not the version I want I will compile from source code |
| 01:11.26 | Penix | ferret_0567: make sure you do it properly. /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 01:11.52 | taime1 | what is a good quickbooks alternative? |
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| 01:12.07 | Penix | real books |
| 01:12.13 | ferret_0567 | ah |
| 01:12.15 | taime1 | linux? |
| 01:12.48 | ferret_0567 | taime1, search freshmeat, google, and sourceforge. Otherwise...who knows |
| 01:13.14 | taime1 | doesnt openoffice have some decent accounting software? |
| 01:13.27 | kgoetz | the idea of asking for 'good" is a recomendation, not a request to be told to rtfw |
| 01:13.34 | cbr | taime1: calc? |
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| 01:16.18 | techouse | petemc: which awk should i set? |
| 01:16.29 | techouse | /usr/bin/awk? |
| 01:16.42 | kgoetz | which do you want? |
| 01:17.06 | techouse | one that works :( |
| 01:17.28 | kgoetz | none of them, thats why their in debian :p |
| 01:17.40 | techouse | ext_ip1=$(/sbin/ifconfig | /bin/grep 89.142 | /usr/bin/awk '{print $2}'| cut -d : -f 2) |
| 01:17.43 | techouse | in debian?! |
| 01:18.06 | kgoetz | why use a full path to awk? |
| 01:18.20 | kgoetz | unless your worried about gawk/mawk issues |
| 01:18.40 | techouse | cause i don't get iptables to get me the ip otherwise |
| 01:18.57 | kgoetz | no, you need a full path to ifconfig for that |
| 01:19.06 | techouse | only?! |
| 01:19.19 | kgoetz | only ifconfig gives you the ip. |
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| 01:19.41 | kgoetz | techouse: run `echo $PATH` for the user running the script please |
| 01:21.02 | techouse | memi@Mk2:~$ echo $PATH |
| 01:21.02 | techouse | /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games |
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| 01:22.11 | kgoetz | techouse: so put PATH=$PATH:/sbin at the top of the script, and you shouldnt need to specify iptables full path |
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| 01:23.34 | techouse | where exactly here then? http://pastebin.com/d4ba59d5 |
| 01:23.53 | techouse | doesn't matter only that it's above the ifconfig line? |
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| 01:24.43 | kgoetz | techouse: after this line: #!/bin/bash |
| 01:25.14 | kgoetz | holycow: hey mate |
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| 01:31.07 | holycow | kgoetz: hey dude |
| 01:31.17 | elmo40 | :/ |
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| 01:33.46 | techouse | kgoetz: didn't work; i got this error http://pastebin.com/d1c5879e5 |
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| 01:36.09 | tonsofpcs | anyone know of a good jail-shell system for sarge? |
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| 01:36.45 | TheFearsomeFufu | Is there a guide for installing the official flash plugin for iceweasel in lenny? The flashplugin-nonfree package isn't included in lenny anymore |
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| 01:37.39 | techouse | kgoetz: help? |
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| 01:38.05 | elmo40 | tonsofpcs: rssh ? |
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| 01:38.08 | kilah | hi, i have question about how to ignore upgrade xorg 1.3 to xorg 1.4.. |
| 01:38.56 | tonsofpcs | elmo40: need something that I can lock them to ~ and only allow a certain list of binaries.... |
| 01:40.39 | techouse | TheFearsomeFufu: 32bit? |
| 01:40.54 | TheFearsomeFufu | techouse: Yes |
| 01:41.03 | techouse | then it's easy :D |
| 01:41.05 | techouse | 1 sec |
| 01:41.40 | techouse | download this http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz |
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| 01:42.11 | techouse | and follow the guide on this site |
| 01:42.13 | TheFearsomeFufu | oh alright |
| 01:42.13 | techouse | http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash |
| 01:42.19 | elmo40 | tonsofpcs: maybe look into rbash. http://wiki.linux.net.nz/rbash(1) |
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| 01:42.59 | tonsofpcs | ty, looking |
| 01:44.03 | ferret_0567 | the debian lenny installer booted over the network and it is now installing over freebsd :) |
| 01:45.19 | techouse | can anyone help me with this iptables problem? |
| 01:45.32 | ferret_0567 | >##freebsd< this is the ghost of ferret_0567 in #debian...I am installing debian lenny over freebsd :-P |
| 01:45.38 | elmo40 | tonsofpcs: i dont know where to get it, though. |
| 01:45.40 | ferret_0567 | mwahahahaha! |
| 01:46.09 | techouse | <ferret_0567> >##freebsd< this is the ghost of ferret_0567 in #debian...I am installing debian lenny over freebsd :-P <-- Debian:FreeBSD 1:0 |
| 01:46.18 | kilah | hi, i have question about how to ignore upgrade xorg 1.3 to xorg 1.4.. |
| 01:46.33 | ferret_0567 | techouse, what do you mean? |
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| 01:47.06 | ferret_0567 | ah crud |
| 01:47.24 | techouse | ferret_0567: emm you're installing debbie over freebsd = debbie wins :D |
| 01:47.40 | ferret_0567 | I wonder if my computer has my complete /home partition backed up... |
| 01:47.56 | ferret_0567 | it has a b0rked Sun Microsystems monitor, so I'll brb.,, |
| 01:47.57 | ferret_0567 | ... |
| 01:49.06 | elmo40 | tonsofpcs: but i suggest you read this: http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/xfdb/8908 |
| 01:51.19 | tonsofpcs | thanks elmo40 |
| 01:51.23 | HA | What do I need to make a "shoutcast" of sorts on my Debian Server? An MP3 player and a program like icecast? |
| 01:53.14 | HA | by MP3 player I actually meant "Music Player Software" =p |
| 01:53.29 | HA | pager read 1 |
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| 01:54.40 | wols | the player software is only needed on the client |
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| 02:03.30 | HA | Great. Next question: |
| 02:04.20 | HA | I found a wonderful guide, but it doesn't answer this:must have Ogg Vorbis v1.0 or above installed |
| 02:04.41 | HA | I'm asuming I'm missing Ogg Vorbis, so I google for Debian Vorbis |
| 02:04.51 | HA | I end up installing Vorbis-tools |
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| 02:04.58 | HA | I try again ... Same error msg. |
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| 02:11.09 | kellie127 | if anyone uses godaddy for V-dedicated please msg me what I should have for MX records.... |
| 02:12.03 | pipeline | kellie127: uh, where is your mail server ? |
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| 02:13.52 | linux2 | anyone here know why mdadm would be giving me this error: mdadm: /dev/sdb1 is too small: 0K |
| 02:13.58 | linux2 | I am running this command |
| 02:14.04 | kellie127 | email server is the vded server |
| 02:14.07 | linux2 | mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=6 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 /dev/sdf1 /dev/sdh1 |
| 02:14.18 | kellie127 | i can telnet to it. |
| 02:14.28 | kellie127 | and I can send SMTP commands... and it says 'sent ok' |
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| 02:14.31 | linux2 | the drives /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc1 are 18.5GB and the others are all 9.1GB |
| 02:14.37 | linux2 | any ideas why it isn't working |
| 02:14.38 | kellie127 | but when i send from other addresses I receive bounceback |
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| 02:16.04 | predder | linux2, check the mdadm man page, if you're not using partitions that are all the same size you should implicitely declare the desired size |
| 02:16.30 | predder | although I can't imagine why you wouldn't want them to be the same size |
| 02:17.21 | linux2 | predder: if I setup this array and then format my root partition and install another distro for example, would the array be able to be rebuilt? |
| 02:17.53 | predder | so long as you don't touch the partitions the array is on - that is correct |
| 02:18.55 | predder | you would just use mdadm -A /dev/mdx /dev/sdx1 /dev/sdy1 etc to assemble the array |
| 02:19.22 | linux2 | predder: that is of course granted that I can get this to even work |
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| 02:21.05 | RodolfoRG | Hi, folks. |
| 02:21.25 | RodolfoRG | I'd like to build a new linux kernel |
| 02:21.42 | RodolfoRG | *I want to |
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| 02:22.24 | linux2 | predder: any idea how I stop the creation of a raid array? |
| 02:22.27 | RodolfoRG | looking on Debian package repository, I saw 2 files: |
| 02:22.33 | predder | linux2, what do you mean? |
| 02:22.33 | RodolfoRG | *packages |
| 02:22.40 | predder | mdadm -S /dev/mdx |
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| 02:22.56 | RodolfoRG | linux-source-2.6.18 and linux-tree-2.6.18 |
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| 02:23.35 | predder | RodolfoRG, so you'd like to rebuild your kernel from the debian source? |
| 02:24.13 | RodolfoRG | predder: yeah. I'm trying to build a device driver, but I need to compile kernel first |
| 02:24.37 | RodolfoRG | predder: I need the object-files :( |
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| 02:24.43 | linux2 | whoa, for some reason it says that one of my 16 GB hard drives is 0.00B |
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| 02:26.05 | predder | !tell RodolfoRG about mkkpkg |
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| 02:26.54 | RodolfoRG | predder: ow, sorry XD |
| 02:27.10 | RodolfoRG | dpkg knows everything =] |
| 02:27.37 | RodolfoRG | predder: but do you know what the linux-tree package is for? |
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| 02:27.58 | RodolfoRG | predder: I can't understand its description |
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| 02:29.21 | RyanRyan52 | I just had to reinstall on my laptop because I messed something up really bad. I have everything back the way it was execpt xscreensaver is not locking when I close my lid. I did some debugging and noticed that /etc/acpi/lid.sh checks the contents of /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state. If I put it in a while loop to log the contents of that file every second and close my laptop, wait a few seconds, and open it again, all my log says is open. So for some |
| 02:30.04 | predder | RodolfoRG, I don't sorry. I can only suggest apt-cache show linux-tree |
| 02:30.09 | predder | and lunch time - bye! |
| 02:30.19 | RodolfoRG | thnaks, predder |
| 02:31.16 | smacnay | Is the beagle-evolution backend working in Debian testing? |
| 02:31.36 | roe_ | not really sure where else to ask this, does anyone know of a good website link grapher? |
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| 02:38.44 | HA | How can I mount a file type image.img: data |
| 02:38.46 | HA | ? |
| 02:39.45 | HennaX | HA: you have to convert it first to the ISO format |
| 02:40.50 | HA | Is there an "easy" or "Debian" way to do it? |
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| 02:43.32 | linux2 | anyone know what filesystem my hard drive partitions should be that I am going to make into a raid array? |
| 02:44.28 | icekold | you need a partition type of Linux raid |
| 02:44.45 | HennaX | HA: the package is called ccd2iso i think |
| 02:44.51 | icekold | then once the array is cxreated, you just mkfs as usual with your desired filesystem |
| 02:44.52 | linux2 | icekold: humm, can i make that with gparted? |
| 02:45.29 | icekold | linux2: I'm not sure about gpareted, but I know fdisk works |
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| 02:47.50 | comex | When I first installed debian apt-get was excellently fast. Now that I have more stuff installed, it feels like hanging forever at "reading database" |
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| 02:49.01 | icekold | comex: just be glad you don't use yum |
| 02:49.14 | icekold | comex: also, try aptitude |
| 02:49.25 | comex | why would using a gui help? |
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| 02:50.21 | tremby | hi folks. my debian lenny server's time keeps getting updated to something incorrect |
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| 02:51.04 | icekold | comex: aptitude install <package> - that doesn't present a GUI |
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| 02:51.57 | tremby | my time problem isn't to do with rebooting -- i set the clock correctly yesterday and it hasn't rebooted since, yet the clock is just under an hour slow now |
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| 02:53.42 | linux2 | icekold: thanks |
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| 02:55.01 | tuv | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:55.21 | tremby | tuv: it is installed and set to use uk.pool.ntp.org |
| 02:55.39 | twiggz | actually i find ntpdate to be more useful. |
| 02:55.41 | tremby | tuv: i don't know how to actually use it, though -- i would have thought it ran automatically every now antd then |
| 02:56.08 | tuv | tremby, is it really running? (ps ax | grep ntp) |
| 02:56.08 | twiggz | just install ntpdate, set your time once and any time else you think it may be wrong...no reason to have a daemon run. |
| 02:56.15 | tremby | tuv: yes |
| 02:56.24 | tuv | twiggz, ntpdate doesn't fix drifting |
| 02:56.36 | tremby | twiggz: well i would like it to stay as accurate as possible since it's a webserver |
| 02:56.45 | tython | I have some question about scim. I can only use it in some applications such as epiphany web browser, but I can not use it in Iceweasel web browser. What is the problem |
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| 02:57.56 | tuv | tremby, do you have any ntpd messages in /var/log/syslog? |
| 02:58.29 | tremby | tuv: grep -i ntp /var/log/syslog gives nothing |
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| 02:59.18 | tuv | tremby, gives a lot of output here. seems like ntpd is not doing its job. did you try differnet ntp servers? |
| 03:01.13 | tremby | tuv: i just ran /etc/init.d/ntp restart and now i have some messages in there |
| 03:01.27 | tremby | tuv: though it /was/ running before -- perhaps i started it wrongly right after installing it |
| 03:01.35 | tremby | tuv: or perhaps even the installation script started it wrongly |
| 03:01.46 | tremby | my time hasn't updated yet though... |
| 03:02.09 | tuv | tremby, if your time is off by a large amount, do an ntpdate before starting ntp |
| 03:02.24 | roe_ | anyone know of a decent link graphing utility for websites? |
| 03:02.40 | RyanRyan52 | /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn is not being called when my laptop's lid is opened/closed and /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state is not being changed when the lid is closed. Can anybody help? |
| 03:03.42 | HA | Question: qemu -boot d -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda hd.img <---- How should I modify it so that I use a Mounted iso instead of a CDROM? The iso is mounted on /mnt/tmp/ |
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| 03:04.13 | tremby | tuv: done, time is now correct, and i then restarted ntp. so hopefully it'll all be ok now... i'll check tomorrow! thanks |
| 03:04.18 | tuv | HA, -cdrom cdrom.iso (not the mounted dir., but the iso) |
| 03:04.50 | tuv | tremby, np |
| 03:05.02 | HA | So it should look like: qemu -boot d -cdrom image.iso -hda hd.img ??? |
| 03:05.11 | tuv | yes |
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| 03:06.57 | HA | Sorry about this, but how do I define where -hda hd.img is? I have it on /disk2 |
| 03:07.30 | tuv | -hda /disk2/hd.img |
| 03:07.45 | HA | thank you |
| 03:07.49 | tuv | you have to create hd.img first with qemu-img |
| 03:08.13 | HA | I already created it using dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=2000000 count=0 |
| 03:08.33 | HA | (not really 2000000, just a random number) |
| 03:09.08 | tuv | HA, qemu-img can create arbitrarily large images with an image file size of the actual portion used only |
| 03:09.31 | HA | I'm trying to emulate winxp with qemu |
| 03:09.36 | tuv | i.e. disk of size 100G where only 2G is used -> file size = 2G |
| 03:09.38 | HA | so I figured I should create a bigger file |
| 03:09.43 | HA | in case I want to install stuff on it. |
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| 03:10.09 | HA | Could not initialize SDL - exiting |
| 03:10.09 | tuv | HA, and that's why "growable" disk size is perfect |
| 03:10.17 | HA | =( |
| 03:10.23 | HA | No other error msg |
| 03:10.37 | tuv | HA, read the manpage of qemu-img |
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| 03:14.01 | HA | that's for "growable" disk size, am I right? |
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| 03:16.32 | nivanson | Hi, if I make a standard install of debian with cd-1, can I then connect to wireless WEP network if the wireless card works? How do I connect to a WEP network from console? |
| 03:17.46 | linux2 | how come when I created a raid 5 array with mdadm and formatted it to an ext3 filesystem the hard drive lights are always flashing? |
| 03:18.03 | tuv | nivanson, man iwconfig. use iwconfig key to enter the wep key |
| 03:18.05 | linux2 | I'm not sending any information to the raid array but the leds just keep flashing on every drive |
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| 03:18.15 | tuv | nivanson, also look at /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools |
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| 03:19.05 | nivanson | tuv, thank you for your help! |
| 03:19.10 | limpio | hi, i can't enter the X system- user not authorized to enter the X server- what's the command? |
| 03:19.14 | tuv | nivanson, np |
| 03:19.35 | HA | qemu -boot d -cdrom winxp.iso -hda /disk2/winxpdisk.img |
| 03:19.39 | tonsofpcs | so is there a way to modify a user's bash profile to set him/her to only be able to execute binaries in . without using the full binary path? if so, wouldn't I be able to set up rbash and just put symlinks to the binaries I want to allow in ~? |
| 03:20.29 | HA | How does it recognize the "iso" file? I mean, I'm not specifying a path to it. I know it's mounted on /mnt/tmp but does Debian know which or where winxp.iso is? |
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| 03:21.26 | tuv | HA, winxp.iso should be an iso image file in the current directory. otherwise, use the correct path: e.g. -cdrom /path/to/winxp.iso |
| 03:21.38 | limpio | how do i change the .Xauthority permit so i can enter the X system? |
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| 03:23.59 | HA | So I don't need to mount the .iso file? |
| 03:24.30 | RyanRyan52 | HA, no |
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| 03:24.45 | lazylizard | hi everyone. i'm a newbie and i can't setup wireless network on my 4.0r1-driven desktop system. tired of googling for some complete RTFM for several days. could anyone please help? |
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| 03:25.09 | RyanRyan52 | lazylizard, more info plz |
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| 03:26.04 | alvarezp | lazylizard, what have you tried? what errors do you get? how is your wireless router configured? what security protocol do you use? what is your network card brand and model? |
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| 03:27.35 | HA | Sorry for still asking, but do I need to use "qemu -boot d **-cdrom** winxp.iso blabla" even though it's an iso file not a cd in a cddrive? |
| 03:27.38 | ampex | is there a way to put a disk in fstab but not have the system freak if it's not present or unmountable at boot? |
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| 03:28.21 | RyanRyan52 | ampex: add noauto after default |
| 03:28.37 | RyanRyan52 | ampex: Then it won't try to mount it be default |
| 03:28.40 | HennaX | HA: i think there is a specialized qemu channel here on Freenode |
| 03:28.58 | ampex | RyanRyan52: I want it to mount, but not for the system to go into single user mode if it can't be mounted |
| 03:29.49 | RyanRyan52 | ampex: What's ur fstab line for it? |
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| 03:30.17 | ampex | UUID="064708dd-f164-46a1-a088-07817b5fd722" /esata ext3 defaults 0 4 |
| 03:30.31 | Lewoco | I just installed apt-cacher, but I get the following error message when it starts: |
| 03:30.33 | Lewoco | Starting Apt-Cacher: apt-cacherCan't locate HTTP/Response.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/sbin/apt-cacher line 57. |
| 03:30.42 | RyanRyan52 | ampex: change the 4 to a 0 I think |
| 03:31.23 | tuv | HA, "-cdrom" -> option, "winxp.iso" -> argument for the option. so yes. you do need -cdrom. otherwise qemu won't know what to do with winxp.iso |
| 03:33.19 | ampex | does anyone know where the user crontab information is kept? |
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| 03:34.13 | tuv | ampex, /var/spool/cron |
| 03:34.15 | Tramp | ampex: /var/spool/cron/crontabs |
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| 03:35.26 | ampex | thanks guys |
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| 03:43.22 | HA | I feel stupid for asking this, but... |
| 03:43.22 | HA | I'm trying to install a windows xp using qemu |
| 03:43.27 | HA | I'm connecting to the computer via VNC |
| 03:43.29 | HA | thing is |
| 03:43.34 | HA | in the middle of the instalation |
| 03:43.43 | HA | it requires me to press F8 to agree |
| 03:43.48 | HA | I press F8 |
| 03:44.05 | HA | And it scrolls a shell from my windows pc computer |
| 03:44.16 | ericP | switching from ipw3945 to iwl3945 leaves me with an unusable (by dhclient, at least) interface |
| 03:44.18 | abrotman | ask #qemu maybe |
| 03:44.35 | ericP | error from dhclient might be a clue: receive_packet failed on eth2: Network is down |
| 03:44.44 | HA | 'k, thanks. |
| 03:45.00 | ericP | anyone here running iwl3945 and can poke around in sys to tell me what's there and what's not? |
| 03:45.16 | abrotman | firmware? |
| 03:45.40 | ericP | grabbed the firmware when my first attempt failed |
| 03:46.05 | ericP | (something in some log somewhere suggested it couldn't load the firmware so it was easy to chase) |
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| 03:46.33 | ericP | possible that now i'm left in a funny state from my earlier failure |
| 03:46.37 | Nyle | fuck! |
| 03:46.40 | Nyle | die already |
| 03:46.52 | Nyle | I hate zombies. |
| 03:47.00 | Nyle | !ppid |
| 03:47.02 | dpkg | i guess ppid is Parent Process ID, or to find the ppid of a pid, run "ps -O%P pid" |
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| 03:48.30 | Steven_elvisda | i config DNS |
| 03:48.37 | Steven_elvisda | but my named is not start |
| 03:48.44 | Steven_elvisda | where can i see message log? |
| 03:48.51 | Steven_elvisda | i already check at /var/log |
| 03:48.53 | Steven_elvisda | but did not see |
| 03:48.56 | RyanRyan52 | Steven_elvisda: /var/log/syslog |
| 03:48.58 | kgoetz | syslog |
| 03:48.59 | Steven_elvisda | any idea everyone? |
| 03:49.00 | RyanRyan52 | Steven_elvisda: /var/log/messages |
| 03:49.08 | Steven_elvisda | i already check but did not see |
| 03:49.27 | kgoetz | Steven_elvisda: what version of debian? |
| 03:50.35 | Steven_elvisda | bad name "hostmaster.xxxx.net |
| 03:50.39 | Steven_elvisda | what wrong? |
| 03:50.59 | Steven_elvisda | now i see the log |
| 03:51.19 | kgoetz | Steven_elvisda: what version of debian? |
| 03:51.55 | lazylizard | I have D-Link AirPlus DWL-G520 card, it works fine under WinXP Pro. I'm connected to a D-Link wireless router (with DHCP enabled) which is connected to internet through ADSL modem. Network authentication type is WPA-PSK and data encryption method is TKIP. All I could achieve is green boxes (good signal) in Xfce's standard wireless network indication tool (it says that the ath0 device is up). I tried utilities like wlanconfig, iwconfig, ifconfig |
| 03:52.00 | lazylizard | according to the info I could dig up. I don't quite remember what i did and i cannot access my linux right now to see and show what ifconfig and error logs say (because I'm under win). The actual problem is that i can't ping my router (destination host unreachable). I would really appreciate if someone points me to a complete noob [wireless] networking setup manual [for debian] - that's just something i couldn't find. If no, i'll answer any |
| 03:52.00 | lazylizard | questions, but I'll have to reboot to Debian first. |
| 03:52.46 | abrotman | no wired LAN ? |
| 03:53.05 | lazylizard | nope :( |
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| 03:53.39 | lazylizard | i have other computers with wired lan though. i just cannot take the wire right here where i am |
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| 03:55.16 | abrotman | any errors in dmesg or syslog or messages? |
| 03:55.17 | lazylizard | my system is 4.0r1 btw |
| 03:56.08 | abrotman | should be r2 |
| 03:56.16 | abrotman | though i doubt that makes a difference |
| 03:57.31 | lazylizard | yeah, it certainly will once i connect to internet ;) how do i get all those possible error messages quickly please? |
| 03:58.38 | Tramp | lazylizard: This should be a card with atheros chipset, supported through madwifi. If you see the ath0-device, you're halfway there. To associate you will need the wpasupplicant package |
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| 03:59.21 | RyanRyan52 | How do you upgrade to 4.0r2? |
| 03:59.55 | abrotman | RyanRyan52: mostly it's just security stuff |
| 04:00.31 | lazylizard | RyanRyan52, err, using aptitude? |
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| 04:02.08 | RyanRyan52 | So how do you know which one you have? |
| 04:02.12 | lazylizard | Tramp, my card is really the one you said. madwifi seemed to work well. what association do i have to do? |
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| 04:02.50 | Tramp | lazylizard: the association with your access-point (i.e. the wireless router) |
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| 04:03.19 | Tramp | lazylizard: wpasupplicant is the software, which handles the wpa-thingy |
| 04:03.56 | lazylizard | RyanRyan52, which one what? |
| 04:04.08 | lazylizard | Tramp, thanks, i'll google that! |
| 04:04.24 | RyanRyan52 | How do you know if you have 4.0r2 or 4.0r1? |
| 04:04.31 | enouf | cat /etc/{issue.net,debian_version} |
| 04:04.51 | enouf | maybe |
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| 04:05.15 | Nyle_ | oh my god |
| 04:05.17 | RyanRyan52 | It just says 4.0, but I have all updates installed |
| 04:05.19 | Nyle_ | fucking asldjf;lakjsdf |
| 04:05.26 | RyanRyan52 | lsb_release does the same |
| 04:05.31 | lazylizard | it was just said that it's 4.0r1 when i was beginning downloading the distros |
| 04:05.40 | enouf | you have a tail tonight Nyle_ |
| 04:05.42 | RyanRyan52 | ohh |
| 04:06.04 | enouf | :-P |
| 04:06.11 | Nyle | dude |
| 04:06.13 | Nyle | fuck comptuers |
| 04:06.16 | Nyle | fuck internets |
| 04:06.17 | Nyle | and fuck people. |
| 04:06.25 | enouf | </rant>? |
| 04:07.17 | techouse | night |
| 04:08.07 | ericP | awe, does someone need a hug? |
| 04:08.36 | The_PHP_Jedi | lol |
| 04:08.39 | screamingbytes | ok so im about to finally nuke my system and move it to deb etch after 3 days of busting my arse |
| 04:08.49 | screamingbytes | any tips, or dbl checks before i do? |
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| 04:09.07 | techouse | <div align="center"><hug>all of us</hug></div> |
| 04:09.23 | RyanRyan52 | screamingbytes: what do you have? |
| 04:09.28 | screamingbytes | now? |
| 04:09.32 | screamingbytes | mandriva |
| 04:09.35 | RyanRyan52 | ya |
| 04:09.47 | RyanRyan52 | I've never used that. |
| 04:09.50 | screamingbytes | i can't wait to get rid of it, 3 years old version except security upgrades |
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| 04:09.57 | screamingbytes | basically redhat |
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| 04:10.06 | screamingbytes | assume a deb system |
| 04:10.08 | techouse | evil |
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| 04:10.11 | quittt | how do I clean up my Debian menu entries? |
| 04:10.11 | screamingbytes | indeed |
| 04:10.13 | yudigadget | what is the best free NAS ? |
| 04:10.20 | yudigadget | any recommendation? |
| 04:10.26 | linux2 | screamingbytes: sounds like me a couple of years ago |
| 04:10.35 | linux2 | screamingbytes: about to switch over to fedora |
| 04:10.44 | screamingbytes | use alacarte menu editor under applications: quittt |
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| 04:11.07 | quittt | does it edit Debian menu? |
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| 04:11.36 | screamingbytes | ive been using debian on all my desktops for 4+ years, prior it was redhat (forced to fedora when i made the switch) |
| 04:11.56 | Nyle | I am so completely ticked off |
| 04:12.02 | abrotman | quittt: you uninstall stuff ? |
| 04:12.05 | RyanRyan52 | Nyle: why? |
| 04:12.14 | Nyle | I really thought that we made computer so they could make OUR lives easier |
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| 04:12.18 | Nyle | it seems with linux |
| 04:12.20 | screamingbytes | quittt: hrmm, well i use gnome desktop so i don't know what u mean by debian menu system but i edit my desktop menu's with alacarte |
| 04:12.22 | Nyle | that is impossible |
| 04:12.30 | Nyle | I think I need to go back to windows and just be a dumbass user |
| 04:12.49 | Nyle | I'm sick of this shit, configure this, configure that, hope it works and you didn't fuck anything up |
| 04:12.52 | Nyle | fuck it man |
| 04:12.54 | Nyle | I give up |
| 04:12.54 | screamingbytes | or switch to lindows :) "linspire" now |
| 04:13.08 | The_PHP_Jedi | Nyle, don't use Linux then |
| 04:13.11 | screamingbytes | ooh, maybe mac? |
| 04:13.15 | Nyle | yeh |
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| 04:13.20 | Nyle | macs are even worse |
| 04:13.24 | The_PHP_Jedi | then use Windows. |
| 04:13.26 | The_PHP_Jedi | kthxbai |
| 04:13.29 | Nyle | windows sucks |
| 04:13.32 | quittt | actually, it is not Debian... it is Ubuntu... but only a few of them use it... I'm having a problem with Debian menu here... as my language here in Portuguese, I want it on Portuguese... nonetheless, everything is messed up between portuguese and english!! like there Applications, and Aplicações |
| 04:13.32 | Nyle | more than anything |
| 04:13.32 | The_PHP_Jedi | then don't use computers. |
| 04:13.34 | quittt | it is very irritating... |
| 04:13.37 | The_PHP_Jedi | make your own OS |
| 04:13.40 | The_PHP_Jedi | get out |
| 04:13.42 | abrotman | quittt: then ask #ubuntu |
| 04:13.42 | The_PHP_Jedi | do things |
| 04:13.49 | The_PHP_Jedi | but don't come complaining in here |
| 04:13.52 | Nyle | 23:12 Ignoring ALL from The_PHP_Jedi |
| 04:13.55 | The_PHP_Jedi | we can't do shit |
| 04:13.55 | Nyle | have fun. |
| 04:13.55 | quittt | I did ask... |
| 04:13.57 | The_PHP_Jedi | lol |
| 04:14.04 | Nyle | Argh. |
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| 04:14.11 | quittt | no one answered... |
| 04:14.11 | Nyle | I just need to smoke, i'll be alright |
| 04:14.20 | quittt | abrotman, where is the menu entries located? |
| 04:14.23 | Nyle | I havne't smoked a joint all day, thats a big accomplishment for me |
| 04:14.37 | abrotman | i have no idea where they are in ubuntu .. ask #ubuntu |
| 04:14.41 | streuner | quittt: #ubuntu |
| 04:14.43 | screamingbytes | quittt: ive never used ubuntu, i know its based off of deb, but i also know there are some differences, in addiiton language issues |
| 04:14.54 | Nyle | thats probably why im pissed off |
| 04:15.10 | screamingbytes | i would try #ubuntu see if anyone can help just for starters |
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| 04:15.22 | quittt | I've used to use Debian... but I changed it because of some updating problems.... |
| 04:15.30 | Nyle | screamingbytes: major differnece.. Ubuntu actually actively sucks |
| 04:15.36 | Nyle | while debian actively tries not to suck |
| 04:15.38 | abrotman | quittt: then ask #ubuntu |
| 04:15.51 | Nyle | and in turn, it successedslkajdslkfj in not sucking |
| 04:16.03 | cizzi | if i'm root i don't need to use the fakeroot command right? |
| 04:16.05 | Nyle | ubuntu however, buggy unstable piece of shit thats never worked right 'out of the box' |
| 04:16.21 | Nyle | its a bunch of overrated hype is what ubuntu is |
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| 04:16.27 | Nyle | you want a good solid os that works, get debian |
| 04:16.34 | quittt | well |
| 04:16.40 | abrotman | quittt: then ask #ubuntu |
| 04:16.47 | Nyle | cizzi: no |
| 04:16.49 | linux2 | Nyle: so you just came in here to compliment about debian? |
| 04:16.56 | Nyle | linux2: are you a madman? |
| 04:17.10 | Nyle | read what I'm saying and then tell me if im commplaining about debian. |
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| 04:17.25 | Nyle | oh my god |
| 04:17.26 | quittt | Ubuntu is very fat |
| 04:17.28 | Nyle | you said complement |
| 04:17.29 | quittt | that's true |
| 04:17.31 | Nyle | im an idiot |
| 04:17.33 | Nyle | I seriously need to get high |
| 04:17.39 | abrotman | quittt: jesus christ .. go to #ubuntu |
| 04:17.41 | Nyle | I'm fucking going nuts. |
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| 04:17.44 | linux2 | Nyle: or you could not do that |
| 04:17.55 | quittt | abrotman, I'm not asking for help by now |
| 04:18.04 | linux2 | Nyle: my experience with debian is so so. I haven't found a distro of linux that just works |
| 04:18.07 | quittt | just talking |
| 04:18.10 | linux2 | all of them have issues from what i can see |
| 04:18.12 | Nyle | linux2: nothing just works |
| 04:18.14 | Nyle | you have to make it work |
| 04:18.16 | streuner | quittt: #ubuntu |
| 04:18.17 | abrotman | talk about ubuntu in #ubuntu |
| 04:18.36 | Nyle | computers don't magically know how to configure themselves to your liking |
| 04:18.44 | linux2 | Nyle: well i mean with debian it tends to break a lot, random issues arise from updates or sometimes just rebooting or installing new software |
| 04:18.45 | Nyle | computers can't read your mind |
| 04:18.45 | Nyle | yet |
| 04:18.50 | Nyle | so yeah, you HAVE to make it work |
| 04:18.51 | linux2 | I mean it isn't really a problem |
| 04:18.52 | Nyle | be it any os |
| 04:19.06 | linux2 | well I just would like to spend less time making things work and actually use the computer for once |
| 04:19.12 | linux2 | thats all I'm saying |
| 04:19.15 | Nyle | well |
| 04:19.17 | Nyle | its not gonna happen |
| 04:19.24 | linux2 | Nyle: I know but I can dream |
| 04:19.28 | linux2 | lol |
| 04:19.34 | Nyle | I honestly believed and grew up believing that comptuers were made to make our lives easier |
| 04:19.37 | Nyle | well |
| 04:19.38 | Nyle | bullshit |
| 04:19.47 | Nyle | this is a load of bullshit bigger than religion |
| 04:19.54 | Nyle | you know how religion is the biggest bullshit story eve |
| 04:19.58 | Nyle | well, this surpasses it |
| 04:20.07 | Nyle | computers were made to give us headahces |
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| 04:20.16 | Nyle | simple as that, im gonna go smoke and relax and not be on irc |
| 04:20.19 | Nyle | have fun guys |
| 04:20.19 | cast | Nyle stfu with your rant already |
| 04:20.24 | cast | ahh, good :) |
| 04:20.30 | streuner | Nyle: computers made life easier, but it also destroyed a lot of jobs too |
| 04:20.30 | RyanRyan52 | Nyle: That's not how they were made. That's just how they ended up. |
| 04:20.39 | streuner | Nyle: read "Rifkin" |
| 04:20.41 | Nyle | streuner: yes I've read rifkin :) |
| 04:20.45 | Nyle | hehe |
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| 04:21.11 | enouf | Nyle: harkening back to jobs' vision circa 1981? |
| 04:21.29 | Nyle | I don't have the energy man |
| 04:21.31 | Nyle | giants won the game |
| 04:21.34 | Nyle | I'm happy |
| 04:22.01 | abrotman | you could just all drop it ? |
| 04:22.43 | linux2 | abrotman: well it looks like the just might have |
| 04:23.19 | Nyle | oh god |
| 04:23.24 | Nyle | how did this asshole get off my ignore list |
| 04:23.30 | cast | hmm, which debian unstable mirror gets updates first? I'm looking for a package that went in 4 hours ago, i think, am not sure how the time line of this stuf fworks |
| 04:23.51 | Nyle | went into where? |
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| 04:24.07 | Nyle | its done been passed by the ftp master? |
| 04:24.17 | abrotman | there's a mirror status page |
| 04:24.42 | Nyle | http://mirror.debian.org/status.html |
| 04:24.47 | cast | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=22;bug=457194 well, i want that package, i presume since an autogenerated message has been created its already moved into the infrastructure |
| 04:24.51 | Nyle | this might be of some help cast |
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| 04:25.05 | linux2 | what ever happened to 3d desktop in linux |
| 04:25.08 | linux2 | it had a ton of hype |
| 04:25.11 | linux2 | and now it seems dead |
| 04:25.15 | Nyle | its going great |
| 04:25.16 | enouf | ignore via IP, e.g; /ig *!*@ip.ad.dr.es |
| 04:25.19 | Nyle | I use compiz confugions every day |
| 04:25.41 | Nyle | enouf: i got it.. somehow when i modified my irssi theme I must have done something to the ignore list |
| 04:25.48 | enouf | right |
| 04:25.54 | Nyle | I actually saw the nickname abrotman for the first time in months |
| 04:26.03 | Nyle | and again it started to irritate me automatically |
| 04:26.09 | linux2 | if I could get it to work |
| 04:26.10 | Nyle | fixed now |
| 04:26.19 | enouf | oh, hehe, didn't know whom you were trying to ig |
| 04:26.20 | linux2 | after the merge to compiz fusion it just never worked |
| 04:26.38 | Nyle | enouf: I try to stay clear of the know it all types |
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| 04:26.41 | szymon_g | hi |
| 04:27.12 | Nyle | enouf: btw, I was actually majorly pissed off at trying to flash ddwrt on a v6 wrt54g |
| 04:27.31 | Nyle | enouf: I bricked it twice, and finally today I came home after work, tried to flash it again and it worked |
| 04:27.45 | enouf | hehe, w00t |
| 04:28.01 | Nyle | I have 2 v2s and never had a problem |
| 04:28.04 | enouf | and those are not computers ;-) |
| 04:28.18 | Nyle | I didn't know v6 wouldn't take the firmware cuz the balls were cut |
| 04:28.22 | enouf | those are go go gadgets gidget |
| 04:28.32 | Nyle | v6 has half the ram of the v2 router |
| 04:28.45 | Nyle | but there are special instructions and you can get the micro ddwrt on it |
| 04:28.59 | enouf | i have a V8 in my chevy ;-) |
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| 04:31.08 | pipeline | I read that as "i have a v8 in my camry" |
| 04:31.10 | pipeline | I was quite confused |
| 04:31.23 | enouf | no ricing allowed |
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| 04:33.16 | swiceje | during boot I'm not getting an ip via dhcp.. eth0 gets an ip if I do a dhclient or restart the networking |
| 04:34.15 | streuner | and that's usually all of the time? |
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| 04:35.07 | linux2 | I just installed compiz fusion and it says on the compiz fusion website to run compiz-manager to start compiz but that program does not exist |
| 04:35.08 | linux2 | any ideas> |
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| 04:35.55 | Cr3ature | is there any information how to set up a real QoS system? |
| 04:36.03 | screamingbytes | so which to download for fresh install? bussiness card, netinst, ... ? |
| 04:36.10 | Cr3ature | like one that uses RegExp to match packets and then give priority to them |
| 04:36.13 | screamingbytes | i have dsl and don't mind the wait |
| 04:37.10 | RyanRyan52 | I'm trying to use cowbuilder but its not working. If I just run cdebootstrap myself it dies saying this last: |
| 04:37.13 | RyanRyan52 | P: Configuring helper cdebootstrap-helper-apt |
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| 04:37.15 | RyanRyan52 | E: Couldn't install system due to errors! |
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| 04:37.33 | Nyle_ | man |
| 04:37.37 | RyanRyan52 | Anybody know what is wrong? |
| 04:37.43 | Nyle_ | this lady keeps changin her wep key |
| 04:37.47 | Nyle_ | wtf |
| 04:38.11 | Nyle_ | its pissin me off, she got the fios verizon :D and weak wep |
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| 04:40.03 | RyanRyan52 | ohh..I guess this is common in sid. nvm |
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| 04:41.41 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 04:41.55 | tengulre | how to using tcpdump to filter UDP protocol? |
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| 04:43.36 | Nyle_ | um |
| 04:43.43 | Nyle_ | I have never used tcpdumb |
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| 04:43.53 | Nyle_ | sorry |
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| 04:44.38 | wols_ | Nyle: I gather you surf in FIOS right now? :) |
| 04:44.47 | Nyle | when I can |
| 04:44.54 | wols_ | naughty |
| 04:44.55 | Nyle | this lady or someone at her house has a bad habit of chaning wep weekly |
| 04:44.58 | Nyle | its pissin me off |
| 04:45.10 | Nyle | its no problem really takes like 10 minutes to hack wireless but still |
| 04:45.11 | cronorock | "/msg dpkg guidelines |
| 04:45.12 | Nyle | its an annoyance |
| 04:45.20 | Nyle | my roomate likes to not pay the internet bill sometime |
| 04:45.26 | Nyle | so they cancel it every now and again |
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| 04:45.54 | Nyle | i have to keep backups around, now that im in nyc, there are literally over 20 wifi nets in almmost every apartment building and almost every block |
| 04:45.57 | Nyle | its insane |
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| 04:46.14 | wols_ | heh |
| 04:46.19 | Nyle | its not like oklahoma |
| 04:46.20 | wols_ | how many WEP, how many insecure? |
| 04:46.20 | Nyle | lol |
| 04:46.38 | Nyle | I hav 20 weps, 7 tkips |
| 04:47.04 | Nyle | 5-6 secure, rest unsecure, more than half of them have default router passwords |
| 04:47.29 | Nyle | my roommate has the cheapest internet available |
| 04:47.42 | Nyle | like 90kb/s down and 20kb/s up or something |
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| 04:48.34 | Nyle | i can't live with that man, so I got a cheap 5$ internal broadcom wifi nic and put it in my laptop that has no screen and it just sits there acting as a server in my closet |
| 04:48.51 | Nyle | anyway, patched the bcm43xx source for 2.6.18 for packet injection and bingo |
| 04:48.58 | Nyle | im off to see the wizard |
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| 04:57.07 | truongnh | hi all |
| 04:57.19 | truongnh | everyone, can you help me |
| 04:57.35 | RyanRyan52 | truongnh: with what? |
| 04:57.35 | truongnh | I would like to ask about debian - panel |
| 04:57.46 | truongnh | I've just lost it |
| 04:58.14 | truongnh | after I login, I can not see the panel |
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| 04:58.46 | abrotman | run gnome-terminal ? |
| 04:59.12 | truongnh | I can not run it |
| 04:59.15 | webPragmatist | i have a question... i setup postfix and I am having trouble figuring out how to configure the imap servers for access |
| 04:59.34 | webPragmatist | i have received the email in my var/mail/username |
| 04:59.44 | webPragmatist | but i can't connect to view it |
| 04:59.57 | linux-user | port imap is open? |
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| 05:04.25 | webPragmatist | linux-user: yea 143 ? |
| 05:04.38 | webPragmatist | er |
| 05:04.53 | webPragmatist | yea it lists ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:imap2 |
| 05:05.07 | webPragmatist | my concern is that i don't have my dns set right? |
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| 05:05.33 | tsrk | I just installed hybserv (for use with ircd), but I can't get it to work. When I run it, it says: Unable to open SETPATH (/etc/hybserv/settings.conf). Anyone know why that might be? |
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| 05:06.22 | webPragmatist | linux-user: where it says "myhostname" in the main.cf .... that should be mail.yourdomain.com ? |
| 05:06.55 | linux-user | u must say domain name of your mx |
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| 05:07.31 | webPragmatist | so if i have an mx record "mail.domain.com" and an a record of mail for domain.com I am good? |
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| 05:24.18 | swiceje | I dont understand why I have no ip after booting is finished. dhclient3 is running, /etc/network/interfaces looks just like any other. The dhcp.leases under /var/lib/ shows me to have the ip but after doing ifconfig the interface is shown to be up but with no ip |
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| 05:26.31 | mugged | Hey guys, Does anyone have a good tutorial on hand for setting up resumable x11vnc sessions? I tried to follow one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402&page=2, i can telnet to port 5900 from my windows box by the VNC Client will never actually authenticate and log on. |
| 05:26.52 | ezc | <swiceje>: what does ifconfig say? |
| 05:27.16 | ezc | i see |
| 05:27.18 | swiceje | everything you would usually expect but without the line containing an ip |
| 05:27.31 | ezc | can you do ifdown/ifup |
| 05:27.40 | ezc | does that pickup an ip? |
| 05:27.52 | swiceje | right, ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 is fine, even ifup -a brings it up normal |
| 05:27.56 | SpecterPhoenix | I'm afraid I'll have to give up on Debian :( ....I compiled and installed kernel 2.6.23 with no problems and upon rebooting I get it to where it says some odd error about tty and sh then just sets there....I'm not having any luck with this heh |
| 05:28.38 | swiceje | and /etc/init.d/networking restart also fixes it to normal |
| 05:28.49 | ezc | hmmm |
| 05:29.04 | ezc | the only problem is on initial boot than? |
| 05:29.10 | swiceje | right |
| 05:29.36 | ezc | that's strange |
| 05:31.15 | swiceje | What about someway to have it do a networking restart right at the tail end of the boot process, any kind of fix would be acceptable till I can figure out why this is happening |
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| 05:31.54 | Gm4n | is scp more error-resistant than sftp? |
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| 05:32.21 | swiceje | scp is awesome |
| 05:32.31 | Gm4n | can scp resume, though? |
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| 05:34.08 | Gm4n | I'm using a GUI client that allows me to choose either SFTP or SCP for ssh-based file transfers, I'm trying to figure out the difference |
| 05:38.09 | pipeline | Gm4n: SFTP uses a binary to provide some services over stdin/stdout. The binary is /usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server, IIRC. SCP just uses the shell. |
| 05:38.28 | pipeline | Gm4n: they both pipe things through the ssh binary. |
| 05:38.41 | pipeline | Gm4n: Neither one of them can resume anything. |
| 05:38.42 | Gm4n | so there should be no real difference? |
| 05:38.43 | pipeline | Gm4n: Use rsync. |
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| 05:39.34 | Gm4n | true enough, I need to stop being a pansy and using a GUI for file transfers :P |
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| 05:40.44 | tengulre | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:12.02 | daurnimator | hi all |
| 06:12.09 | daurnimator | just installing debian on my pda |
| 06:12.18 | daurnimator | wondering if the business card cd has a dhcp client in it |
| 06:12.33 | daurnimator | (for arm) |
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| 06:13.01 | puff | is there a way to make apt-get re-download/re-install a package? |
| 06:13.13 | Gm4n | remove then re-install it? |
| 06:13.20 | puff | Or a way to remove a package without removing all of the dependencies? |
| 06:13.34 | Penix | removing a package doesn't remove dependencies |
| 06:13.54 | Gm4n | I think puff means remove a package without removing all the packages that depend on it |
| 06:14.13 | puff | Will --reinstall restore the binaries to their pristine post-install state? |
| 06:14.17 | puff | Gm4n: Right. |
| 06:14.32 | Penix | how would the binaries not be 'pristine' before reinstalling? |
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| 06:14.56 | Penix | you're just replacing something with itself |
| 06:14.57 | enouf | puff: you removed some configs manually? |
| 06:15.20 | puff | enouf: Yeah, a make error messed up a bunch of stuff in libc. |
| 06:15.33 | enouf | !tell puff about confmiss |
| 06:15.50 | wyclif | hey, back again |
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| 06:16.12 | enouf | make + libc? oh dear |
| 06:16.16 | moshii | Is there any reason a cross compiler built on a 32bit x86 box would produce difference binaries to one build on a 64bit x86 box? They should be the same as the target of both is arm-eabi :/ |
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| 06:16.32 | puff | enouf: It's just the binaries that are messed up, basically and deleted all the static libraries in /usr |
| 06:16.44 | enouf | nice going |
| 06:16.54 | Penix | puff: stop fscking around with it then |
| 06:17.06 | puff | --reinstall fixed it, cool. |
| 06:17.17 | puff | It's complicated. |
| 06:17.25 | puff | Penix: It's complicated. |
| 06:17.45 | puff | Thanks folks. |
| 06:18.21 | puff | Basically we're working on an embedded linux distro; the make file was supposed to run with a chrooted /usr, but it ended up running with the main /usr. |
| 06:18.24 | wyclif | using aptitude for the very first time! |
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| 06:18.35 | puff | wyclif: Congrats! |
| 06:18.36 | holycow | when i dd out an hd to a file do i haveto specify the exat bit size i want or can i just say dd this device until done? |
| 06:18.46 | holycow | dd will stop intelligently when it hits the 'end' correct? |
| 06:18.53 | RyanRyan52 | yes |
| 06:18.57 | holycow | danke |
| 06:19.24 | puff | holycow: dd will do the whole thing, though, so it'll take up as much space as the drive *could* hold. |
| 06:19.43 | moshii | puff: maybe you should do dangerous stuff with fakeroot instead? |
| 06:19.56 | holycow | puff *nod* |
| 06:19.57 | holycow | danke |
| 06:20.34 | moshii | puff: or build stuff inside debootstraped chroot so you don't go nuking your actual environment? |
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| 06:23.32 | screamingbytes | ugh, mere moments away from starting the install :) |
| 06:23.59 | puff | moshii: That's actually where the chrooted stuff came from; somebody accidentally merged it into the main trunk so it got invoked during a non-fakeroot build on a normal machine. |
| 06:24.15 | lech | can someone help me set /etc/fstab to check a mountpoint at boot? |
| 06:24.29 | lech | I'm receiving "EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended" warnings now |
| 06:24.31 | daurnimator | how can I skip apt-mirror-setup?? |
| 06:25.48 | daurnimator | (in the business card setup???) |
| 06:26.17 | streuner | daurnimator: isnt there a "manual" process or such? |
| 06:26.19 | screamingbytes | lech: man tune2fs check max-mount-counts, |
| 06:26.32 | screamingbytes | lech: turn some off in your fstab not all need to be checked |
| 06:26.38 | daurnimator | streuner: you tell me |
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| 06:27.10 | streuner | daurnimator: and using <TAB> to "Cancel" isnt possible too? |
| 06:27.22 | phix | hey, zaptel-source package is broken |
| 06:27.24 | daurnimator | there is no cancel |
| 06:27.41 | daurnimator | and I can't kill the process |
| 06:27.44 | daurnimator | not even with kill -9 |
| 06:27.52 | daurnimator | (with a different tty) |
| 06:28.26 | streuner | daurnimator: so just finish that process and edit it later if needed |
| 06:28.35 | phix | zaptel-source tries to redeclare bool and also require linux/config.h but this is deprecated. |
| 06:28.37 | daurnimator | finish it how? |
| 06:28.54 | streuner | heh |
| 06:31.01 | daurnimator | right, I've unplugged the power now :) |
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| 06:32.03 | dbmoodb | hi how do i kill a thread that just will not die |
| 06:32.05 | streuner | that was a little bit harsh, but effective :-) |
| 06:32.13 | streuner | !alien |
| 06:32.13 | dpkg | hmm... alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
| 06:32.14 | dbmoodb | killall on it isn't work nor killall -w |
| 06:32.16 | dondelelcaro | dbmoodb: depends on the state |
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| 06:32.31 | dbmoodb | well state ... |
| 06:32.36 | dbmoodb | mmm ah not sure |
| 06:32.37 | streuner | show us |
| 06:32.40 | dondelelcaro | dbmoodb: if kill -9 foopid; doesn't work, then it can't be killed. (tell us the ps axfu; output for it if you're unsure) |
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| 06:33.05 | dbmoodb | root 9171 28.4 1.1 3988 1496 ? R 16:52 3:14 lprng_certs |
| 06:33.06 | dbmoodb | root 3915 0.0 0.4 3988 592 ? R 17:03 0:00 lprng_certs |
| 06:33.25 | dondelelcaro | dbmoodb: kill -9 9171; as rooot will kill those. |
| 06:33.31 | dondelelcaro | (and 3915) |
| 06:33.31 | dbmoodb | yes |
| 06:33.34 | dbmoodb | it appears to have |
| 06:33.38 | dbmoodb | ah no 3915 died |
| 06:33.43 | dbmoodb | so what does kill -9 do ? |
| 06:33.55 | RyanRyan52 | dbmoodb: kills it |
| 06:33.55 | streuner | man kill |
| 06:33.55 | puff | Anybody managed to get lignumCAD built? |
| 06:34.03 | puff | It's not in apt, I'm thinking of trying out alien on it. |
| 06:34.05 | dondelelcaro | dbmoodb: it sends SIGKILL instead of SIGTERM |
| 06:34.06 | dbmoodb | bah but i still can't bind to that port now |
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| 06:34.44 | SerajewelKS | dbmoodb: look at "netstat -plunt" and see which process is bound to it |
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| 06:35.19 | puff | dbmoodb: kill without -9 basically asks the process to exit, which gives it a chance to clean up, etc. This is better if it works. kill -9 just yanks the rug out from under the process, which is messier, but works if the process is stuck. |
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| 06:36.05 | dbmoodb | well there is nothing on port 515 |
| 06:36.30 | dbmoodb | oh wait i might know |
| 06:36.46 | SerajewelKS | dbmoodb: is this process you want to bind to that port running as root? |
| 06:36.49 | dbmoodb | yes got it |
| 06:36.50 | streuner | apis:/home/user# grep 515 /etc/services |
| 06:36.50 | streuner | printer 515/tcp spooler # line printer spooler |
| 06:36.59 | dbmoodb | it was lpr tying it up |
| 06:37.32 | SerajewelKS | dbmoodb: ah. well for the record, only root can bind to ports < 1024. |
| 06:37.50 | dbmoodb | yes it was root, lpr was getting in the way or lpr i think |
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| 06:39.01 | daurnimator | puff: unless its in the D state, like my installer is now |
| 06:39.09 | a59 | Who knows how to HACK INTO COMPUTERS?? |
| 06:39.39 | dondelelcaro | a59: you take a double bladed ax, and a grind stone, and sharpen. then apply to computer. |
| 06:39.47 | a59 | y |
| 06:39.50 | dbmoodb | 74.52.80.210 is you |
| 06:39.56 | dbmoodb | and you are responding to ping |
| 06:40.01 | dbmoodb | !ping |
| 06:40.01 | dpkg | pong |
| 06:40.24 | dbmoodb | anyone seen a "Can not get the ticket cache for blah error before ? |
| 06:40.50 | dbmoodb | ssh don't tell him to much |
| 06:41.01 | dbmoodb | you will give the hacking away for free |
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| 06:41.23 | SerajewelKS | oh, right... |
| 06:41.26 | a59 | CAn someone PLEASE fucking teach me to hack |
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| 06:41.50 | dbmoodb | !hack |
| 06:41.59 | dbmoodb | oh too late |
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| 06:45.29 | webPragmatist | a59: yea type sudo |
| 06:45.33 | webPragmatist | that's how you hack |
| 06:46.02 | moshii | mmm, two crosscompilers built on different archs, they generate the same code apparently as assembly but then the object files that come out of gcc are smaller on one and won't link, meh |
| 06:46.33 | moshii | s/as assembly/at assembly/ |
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| 06:51.16 | cizzi | i forgot the name of the file i that loads modules at boottime |
| 06:51.26 | moshii | cizzi: /etc/modules |
| 06:51.34 | cizzi | thanks |
| 06:51.39 | moshii | cizzi: man -k can be helpfu |
| 06:51.41 | moshii | l |
| 06:51.41 | cizzi | 2am is late for me :) |
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| 06:54.20 | webPragmatist | how do you remove postfix without it asking you to install another mail service? |
| 06:54.34 | moshii | webPragmatist: you need an MTA |
| 06:54.50 | streuner | webPragmatist: or install a "light" one |
| 06:54.56 | webPragmatist | uhg |
| 06:55.07 | moshii | mullmailer or something.. |
| 06:55.38 | webPragmatist | ok how do i get postfix back to default |
| 06:55.42 | webPragmatist | lol |
| 06:55.57 | streuner | aptitude install postfix |
| 06:56.19 | webPragmatist | but it doesn't remove the config/ask again |
| 06:56.33 | moshii | webPragmatist: dpkg-reconfigure |
| 06:56.45 | webPragmatist | but that doesn't restore defaults it just asks |
| 06:56.57 | webPragmatist | lol |
| 06:57.03 | webPragmatist | (has tried everything) |
| 06:57.10 | moshii | webPragmatist: how did you break it? |
| 06:57.19 | dondelelcaro | webPragmatist: it asks you the questions which enable you to return to a working configuration |
| 06:57.23 | webPragmatist | i dunno i just wanted to start over with some other configuration |
| 06:57.49 | webPragmatist | because this how to says to hit "OK" for the install |
| 06:57.54 | webPragmatist | and ignore what it asks |
| 06:58.05 | dondelelcaro | (and it's not like it's difficult to manually change the settings at any point you want later, anyway.) |
| 06:58.26 | webPragmatist | yes but it is difficult to follow this how to maybe |
| 06:58.36 | dondelelcaro | webPragmatist: what howto are you following? |
| 06:58.49 | dondelelcaro | and why exactly are you installing postfix in the first place? |
| 06:59.08 | dondelelcaro | !real question |
| 06:59.10 | dpkg | Please tell us what the real problem is instead of wasting our time asking questions about things that you think are related to the problem. If you don't, you're just wasting your time and ours. [Far too often what you think is related to the problem actually isn't or won't help you solve your problem at all.], or see <xyproblem> |
| 06:59.22 | webPragmatist | i asked a real question :\ |
| 06:59.32 | webPragmatist | anyway |
| 06:59.49 | webPragmatist | i was going to try and follow this now.... http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier |
| 07:00.05 | streuner | webPragmatist: why? |
| 07:00.10 | webPragmatist | but they are adding like a quota patch |
| 07:00.22 | streuner | webPragmatist: do you really need to set up your own mailserver? |
| 07:00.31 | webPragmatist | wtf yes? |
| 07:00.41 | streuner | you shouldn't then |
| 07:00.54 | webPragmatist | oh ok... |
| 07:00.56 | webPragmatist | thanks |
| 07:00.56 | streuner | use "smarthost" then |
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| 07:01.16 | streuner | there are too many open relays, we dont need another one |
| 07:02.28 | webPragmatist | I want to use my own mailserver because i want to be able to create my own addresses via a db and manage their mailboxes. |
| 07:02.52 | webPragmatist | but this is some serious digression |
| 07:03.18 | moshii | webPragmatist: you can do that with debian's default exim for starters |
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| 07:03.45 | webPragmatist | as you can with postfix |
| 07:03.56 | moshii | webPragmatist: if you're going to folow howtos.. use debian-related ones, like those from debian-administration |
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| 07:06.14 | webPragmatist | uhg that website has horrid searching |
| 07:06.50 | webPragmatist | when the heck is it acceptable to get rid of the "visited" link color/style |
| 07:06.51 | moshii | it's probably best to learn how it actually works then and figure it out for yourself.. |
| 07:07.34 | webPragmatist | yea but the how to's are still informative in that way... i have it working with linux users and i understood what i did |
| 07:08.24 | moshii | webPragmatist: virtual users are a bit different to local users though |
| 07:09.06 | moshii | webPragmatist: if you just want to send a bunch of different addresses to a users mailbox use alaises |
| 07:09.09 | webPragmatist | well in theory i was using "virtual" users... but they were still based on the uid in the users |
| 07:09.41 | webPragmatist | moshii: well what i am trying to accomplish is not having a "bunch" of users on the linux box that should never exist..... |
| 07:09.56 | webPragmatist | because the users have nothing to do with that box |
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| 07:10.34 | Sazpaimon | I need to find out what on my system is causing a file to be edited |
| 07:10.43 | Sazpaimon | How do I go about doing this |
| 07:10.51 | moshii | webPragmatist: well, they do if their mail is getting collected there.. |
| 07:11.55 | webPragmatist | well still i want control of the users in a database |
| 07:12.02 | webPragmatist | because it is going to be used by several apps |
| 07:13.43 | moshii | local applications should authenticate via pam.. which you can configure to use a db as a backend |
| 07:15.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sazpaimon: you mean.. the file is changed by an application and you want to find out which one it is, I guess... that's difficult. What file is it? |
| 07:15.28 | Sazpaimon | an .htaccess file |
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| 07:15.38 | moshii | Sazpaimon: you could use inotify |
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| 07:16.27 | moshii | Sazpaimon: use one of the tools to monitor the file and you can extract the name of the offending process from the data inotify returns |
| 07:17.14 | Sazpaimon | I dont think I have inotify |
| 07:18.06 | Fuzzy | does lenny have an announcement web page somewhere? |
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| 07:18.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | moshii: ha, nice, I didn't know inotify that's useful to know |
| 07:19.25 | iateadonut | haven't been drinking coffee for a few weeks. seems my productivity has dropped - just a survey - how much coffee do hackers drink? |
| 07:19.36 | Fuzzy | none it gives me migranes |
| 07:19.49 | iateadonut | soda? |
| 07:19.51 | jetscreamer | i drink coffee 24/7 basically |
| 07:19.53 | Fuzzy | nonde |
| 07:19.56 | Fuzzy | none |
| 07:20.00 | Fuzzy | i drink tea once in a while |
| 07:20.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | jetscreamer: explains your nick :) |
| 07:20.12 | Fuzzy | but it's caffeine free |
| 07:20.14 | iateadonut | jetscreamer, what's your job? |
| 07:20.26 | moshii | iateadonut: I think I read someone people that drink coffee are no more "awake" or productive than those that don't |
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| 07:20.34 | jetscreamer | depends on what needs doing |
| 07:20.41 | moshii | s/someone/somewhere/ |
| 07:20.45 | Sazpaimon | yeah I dont have inotify |
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| 07:20.55 | webPragmatist | moshii: this PAM thing scares me.... not only does it seem rather complicating but having the possibility of a user having "shell" access just because of their permissions is frightening |
| 07:21.05 | Sazpaimon | and I don't want to have to recompile an entire kernel source to get it :/ |
| 07:21.07 | webPragmatist | their permissions in a database that is .. |
| 07:21.09 | moshii | Sazpaimon: it's a kernel feature, you need userland tools to make use of it |
| 07:21.29 | jetscreamer | well i don't have to clean stuff |
| 07:21.32 | moshii | webPragmatist: disable their shell then |
| 07:21.39 | webPragmatist | moshii: are you suggesting something like PAM-mysql ? |
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| 07:22.43 | moshii | webPragmatist: I use that so that services like imap that run in different environments can authenticate.. I wouldn't suggest it useless you know how to re-build it to enable md5 hashes though |
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| 07:23.22 | webPragmatist | oh it doesn't come with md5 capabilities? |
| 07:23.50 | moshii | webPragmatist: it isn't linked against openssl in the debian packages so the hashing functions don't work |
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| 07:25.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sazpaimon: why should you recomplie the kernel? |
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| 07:26.10 | Sazpaimon | Cueball|Laptop, according to http://edoceo.com/creo/inotify/, to get inotify, i must first patch and rebuild the kernel |
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| 07:26.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | moshii: actually, I don't see how you'd get the process id... from inotify-tool at least |
| 07:27.41 | tonsofpcs | trying to set up rbash... i sudo -u testuser bash -r and ls [no options] gives me "No such file or directory" any clues how to fix it so ls works? |
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| 07:28.48 | webPragmatist | aptitude install sudo |
| 07:29.23 | moshii | CutMeOwnThroat: mm I was sure that was one of the things your could get out of it.. |
| 07:29.39 | moshii | CutMeOwnThroat: just going to have a look at the very sparse documentation again.. |
| 07:30.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | moshii: perhaps one could use inotify to trigger fuser in the right moment... but that opens all doors wide for race-condition hell... |
| 07:30.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean inotifywatch |
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| 07:31.31 | moshii | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm sure one of the variables you can use in icrond is the process that fired the inotify event |
| 07:31.42 | moshii | CutMeOwnThroat: but it's been a while :/ |
| 07:32.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | moshii: hm, on a simpler side of that... "stat file" will return the uid of the last accessing process |
| 07:34.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sazpaimon: that's something you could try, I guess... |
| 07:34.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops |
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| 07:34.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | uid... user id |
| 07:34.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | not process id |
| 07:34.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | <---- bit tired |
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| 07:35.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | although, finding out the user could be not completely useless |
| 07:35.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well, time for bed |
| 07:35.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | !bed |
| 07:35.32 | dpkg | bed is probably a thing programmers have never heard of, ask me about shower |
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| 07:45.45 | valdyn | Sazpaimon: patching is not required, that website must be old |
| 07:46.22 | valdyn | Sazpaimon: inotify has been in debian kernels for quite a while |
| 07:46.22 | Sazpaimon | ah |
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| 07:46.57 | valdyn | 2007-02-08 - Updated for inotify in kernel >= 2.6.13, link to Linux::Inotify2 |
| 07:47.01 | valdyn | that is old |
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| 07:55.06 | KCYNICE | help!I used "apt-get install proftpd" to install ftp service.when the installation getting end,there was a error occurred:Starting ftp server:proftpd --IPv6 getaddrinfo 'localhost' error:Name of service not known. |
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| 08:02.52 | Fuzzy | KCYNICE: you need to disable ipv6 |
| 08:02.56 | Fuzzy | in proftpd |
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| 08:05.11 | KCYNICE | in proftpd.conf: UseIPv6 off, right? |
| 08:05.14 | kjs | morning |
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| 08:08.00 | valdyn | KCYNICE: is localhost defined in /etc/hosts ? |
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| 08:11.18 | KCYNICE | in /etc/hosts: ::1 ipv6-localhost ipv6-loopback \ fe00::0 ipv6-localnet .... 6 line in total |
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| 08:13.01 | valdyn | KCYNICE: no 127.0.0.1 localhost ? |
| 08:13.33 | valdyn | KCYNICE: "localhost" is never ipv6. It's not supposed to be. |
| 08:14.07 | valdyn | KCYNICE: add that line 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost |
| 08:14.57 | valdyn | KCYNICE: you shouldnt have to disable ipv6 |
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| 08:16.26 | KCYNICE | yes,no such item |
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| 08:18.09 | KCYNICE | but i found the all the lines' format is the same like "ff0x::x something" |
| 08:18.39 | SkoalMan | yeah its almost like that cocksucker wanted that fuckin thing to happen ya know? |
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| 08:19.19 | Decepticon | where do i buy a debian shirt from |
| 08:19.37 | SkoalMan | chea motherfucker, i didnt say shit to him though man |
| 08:19.38 | Decepticon | i saw a dude wearing a gray looking shirt with a big debian logo on it |
| 08:20.49 | moshii | Decepticon: google debian tshirt? |
| 08:21.08 | SkoalMan | he was grabbin my balls and shit ya know? |
| 08:21.17 | Decepticon | isnt there a official debian store? |
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| 08:21.36 | happla | Decepticon: It's called "The internets" |
| 08:21.45 | happla | Decepticon: Clog them tubes with the oss |
| 08:21.57 | valdyn | Decepticon: there's a protected and an unprotected version of debian logos |
| 08:21.59 | moshii | Decepticon: not that I know of. The guy I got a shirt from was running for project leader last time around.. so |
| 08:22.05 | KCYNICE | valdyn: i had added the line you tole me,and turn on UseIPv6.then the error occur again. |
| 08:22.05 | Decepticon | hm |
| 08:22.27 | valdyn | Decepticon: whoever sells the protected one on a shirt has to be official ( or chinese ;) ) |
| 08:22.29 | SkoalMan | cock suckers with the fuckin ya know... i didnt really want him to do that anyway |
| 08:22.42 | valdyn | !debian logo |
| 08:22.42 | dpkg | well, debian logo is the sweetest logo ever |
| 08:22.50 | Decepticon | yeah |
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| 08:24.12 | valdyn | http://www.debian.org/logos/ |
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| 08:24.39 | tarzeau | i've got a parody shop: http://www.cafepress.com/lesbianlinux |
| 08:24.51 | _Ergo_ | hello im running debian stable in vmware machine, and everything was fine on my pld pc, now i moved the vmware to another pc, and the system cant find eth0 :( any hind what can be the problem ? |
| 08:24.52 | SkoalMan | fuckin ya know..... like balls man, i got dat chit yo |
| 08:24.54 | KCYNICE | but,others also can access my ftp server |
| 08:25.16 | tarzeau | _Ergo_: build its module? it needs a kernel module |
| 08:25.28 | tarzeau | _Ergo_: or try qemu or virtualbox instead |
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| 08:26.06 | SkoalMan | dat cocksucker wit it chea fuckin a man i didnt even do dat shiiit damnn |
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| 08:26.13 | valdyn | _Ergo_: you did compile nvnet on that new machine? |
| 08:26.14 | _Ergo_ | tarzeau : : its same vmware with same configuration , ive done it before and it worked.... im a noob with that stuff :] |
| 08:26.21 | Decepticon | it looked like this one: http://www.cafepress.com/buy/debian/-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.54251894/pNo_54251894/id_12020245/opt_/fpt_/c_666/ |
| 08:26.24 | valdyn | _Ergo_: i just know that vmware has some kernel drivers it relies on |
| 08:26.27 | tarzeau | _Ergo_: same cpu? memory? |
| 08:26.50 | _Ergo_ | valdyn : - it uses bridged vmadapter |
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| 08:27.21 | _Ergo_ | but for some reason it says that no eth0 device hardware is present .... |
| 08:27.27 | moshii | Decepticon: probably got it from a debian booth at a show |
| 08:27.34 | Decepticon | moshii, ahhh |
| 08:27.36 | Decepticon | you're right |
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| 08:27.38 | valdyn | ah yea, nvnet was nvidia stuff.. ops |
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| 08:28.23 | _Ergo_ | tarzeau : : dies it make difference what hardware it uses ? its virtual machine after all |
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| 08:28.41 | moshii | Decepticon: http://www.einval.com/~steve/DebianT/ I got a shirt from here thoguugh |
| 08:29.03 | SkoalMan | yeah its almost like that cocksucker wanted that fuckin thing to happen ya know? |
| 08:29.10 | moshii | Decepticon: *though, iirc that guy was running for project leader |
| 08:29.16 | tarzeau | _Ergo_: yes kernel modules need be rebuild for different kind of kernels |
| 08:29.28 | tarzeau | _Ergo_: debian installs differently configured kernel binaries on different hardware |
| 08:29.52 | _Ergo_ | tarzeau : : but its the same system with the same hardware - the only difference is that at home i have static ip and here i use dhcp |
| 08:29.54 | tarzeau | _Ergo_: the virtual machine runs fine on most stuff, you just need the software to get running (the kernel module) |
| 08:30.06 | tarzeau | _Ergo_: aha. then i don't know sorry. try ask vmware.com |
| 08:30.26 | Decepticon | moshii that looks like it, but it wasnt on a pure black tshirt, it was a what do you call those gray/black t shirts sort of ... hm |
| 08:30.35 | SkoalMan | BALLLLS SACK |
| 08:30.43 | SkoalMan | cha cha cha cha CHEA SON |
| 08:30.56 | tarzeau | SkoalMan: penis envy? |
| 08:31.08 | SkoalMan | whats the best way to install kde4 on debian anyway? |
| 08:31.12 | _Ergo_ | is it always so fun here ?;-) |
| 08:31.16 | moshii | Decepticon: probably came from a show then ;) |
| 08:31.17 | tarzeau | SkoalMan: #debian-kde |
| 08:31.26 | tarzeau | _Ergo_: it was more fun three years ago |
| 08:31.29 | Decepticon | cool, i gotta go to one then |
| 08:31.43 | SkoalMan | is kde4 in testing, stable, experimental or what? |
| 08:31.54 | tarzeau | SkoalMan: you can check with http://packages.debian.org |
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| 08:31.55 | moshii | experimental |
| 08:32.07 | SkoalMan | interesting..... ballsack |
| 08:32.19 | SkoalMan | i use gentoo anyway so it doesnt matter to me |
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| 08:32.40 | SkoalMan | aka i have a bigger penis than you |
| 08:32.52 | tarzeau | SkoalMan: it's not like anyone cares in here |
| 08:33.00 | tarzeau | !ops SkoalMan is being off-topic |
| 08:33.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: tarzeau complains about: SkoalMan is being off-topic |
| 08:33.17 | moshii | tarzeau: I think "being a tard" is more fitting |
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| 08:33.22 | SkoalMan | !ops yo |
| 08:33.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: skoalman complains about: yo |
| 08:33.31 | tarzeau | moshii: you know calling people tard here get's you kickbanned without warning |
| 08:33.35 | tarzeau | moshii: but i agree |
| 08:33.53 | SkoalMan | !ops tarzeau and moshii called me a retard when i asked a question |
| 08:33.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: skoalman complains about: tarzeau and moshii called me a retard when i asked a question |
| 08:34.04 | Penix | SkoalMan: stop abusing the bot |
| 08:34.08 | tarzeau | !ops SkoalMan that's a lie, please check your backlogs before you act! |
| 08:34.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: tarzeau complains about: SkoalMan that's a lie, please check your backlogs before you act! |
| 08:34.20 | SkoalMan | !ops yeah check those backlogs you'll see |
| 08:34.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: skoalman complains about: yeah check those backlogs you'll see |
| 08:34.26 | SkoalMan | !ops they both called me a retard |
| 08:34.26 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: skoalman complains about: they both called me a retard |
| 08:34.27 | elky | tarzeau, giving them ammo isnt the best way to quell the situation |
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| 08:34.32 | Penix | oh ffs |
| 08:34.35 | tarzeau | elky: i wonder why he's still here |
| 08:35.05 | elky | tarzeau, because you told someone who called him out that they could be banned, so he's now milking that |
| 08:35.05 | SkoalMan | well for one, im still using gentoo and still compiling my packages with better optimizations than you can get from debian |
| 08:35.15 | moshii | SkoalMan: you're an idiot, you obviously have some sort of special needs |
| 08:35.15 | Penix | we don't care |
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| 08:35.17 | Penix | go tell #gentoo |
| 08:35.20 | simonrvn | SkoalMan: hehehee. riiight. |
| 08:35.23 | Ramattack | Hi |
| 08:35.32 | Ramattack | what's the difference between doing halt and shutdown? |
| 08:35.37 | SkoalMan | ever hear of USE flags? wheres the debian equivlant of that |
| 08:35.44 | simonrvn | wow, i stroll in, and i get some comdey. nice |
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| 08:35.46 | tarzeau | elky: look if you read the channel faq, people that act retarded they get out of here, that simply |
| 08:35.56 | Penix | simonrvn: you missed most of his moronic behaviour |
| 08:35.58 | SkoalMan | and what about compiler flags..... you guys dont even get to touch that shit.... you people are at a windows level |
| 08:36.00 | tarzeau | elky: either that, or the channel faq should be updated |
| 08:36.06 | simonrvn | oooh, USE flags are so 1337 |
| 08:36.07 | moshii | SkoalMan: beh, if you actually knew what you were talking about... |
| 08:36.16 | Penix | he wouldn't be here |
| 08:36.18 | SkoalMan | ive used gentoo for 8 years now, i think i know |
| 08:36.27 | Penix | makes sense |
| 08:36.29 | moshii | gentoo has existed that long? |
| 08:36.31 | elky | tarzeau, i was referring to you telling moshii what you did |
| 08:36.34 | SkoalMan | yeah |
| 08:36.53 | simonrvn | SkoalMan: go try that on people who don't know. oh, and please leave, or get banned |
| 08:37.08 | simonrvn | SkoalMan: actually don't. ignorance is ignorance. |
| 08:37.14 | tarzeau | elky: can you copy paste what you mean? |
| 08:37.17 | SkoalMan | im just trying to save you guys... theres a better life on the gentoo side |
| 08:37.24 | Penix | we don't care |
| 08:37.27 | simonrvn | !ops SkoalMan trolling |
| 08:37.27 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn complains about: SkoalMan trolling |
| 08:37.32 | Gary | SkoalMan, please don't troll |
| 08:37.44 | tarzeau | simonrvn: we need a /vote kickban system |
| 08:37.46 | elky | tarzeau, may i PM you to do that? |
| 08:37.49 | troubled | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.51 | tarzeau | elky: please, sure |
| 08:38.05 | SkoalMan | GENTOO FO' LIFE YO WWW.GENTOO.ORG WOOO WOOOO |
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| 08:38.20 | Penix | go do your homework |
| 08:38.23 | Penix | literally |
| 08:38.26 | SkoalMan | its easy: apt-get remove debian..... apt-get isntall gentoo |
| 08:38.33 | simonrvn | tarzeau: interesting thought. easy to abuse. :/ |
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| 08:38.47 | troubled | Gary: you got my vote |
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| 08:39.01 | SkoalMan | !ops they are no help |
| 08:39.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: skoalman complains about: they are no help |
| 08:39.07 | *** mode/#debian [+o Gary] by ChanServ |
| 08:39.09 | Penix | ignore time |
| 08:39.18 | tarzeau | hi Penix btw :) |
| 08:39.20 | *** mode/#debian [+b SkoalMan!*@*] by Gary |
| 08:39.21 | elky | hahaha |
| 08:39.26 | elky | op, flee |
| 08:39.26 | Penix | ban his IP |
| 08:39.30 | Penix | tarzeau: wenas |
| 08:39.32 | simonrvn | SkoalMan: that can get you a kline doing that. stupid idiot |
| 08:39.42 | simonrvn | oh poo he left |
| 08:39.48 | *** mode/#debian [-o Gary] by Gary |
| 08:39.50 | moshii | legged it haha |
| 08:39.51 | troubled | simonrvn: not really |
| 08:40.07 | troubled | klines are reserved for the worst of cases from what ive seen |
| 08:40.16 | simonrvn | troubled: yes i know |
| 08:40.22 | _Ergo_ | btw. i have the eth0 back .... |
| 08:40.48 | _Ergo_ | i reloaded the VMware VM machine files, and iported it keeping the old identifier.... WTF :/ |
| 08:41.07 | simonrvn | Gary: ban by ip, like tarzeau said. the way you did it he can just change his nick and get in |
| 08:41.43 | Gary | simonrvn, and thats ban evasion, which is another matter |
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| 08:41.53 | simonrvn | yes it is |
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| 08:42.02 | troubled | i love when they telll staff how to do their job :) |
| 08:42.17 | simonrvn | Gary: you new around here, or old "face" with new nick? |
| 08:42.29 | elky | simonrvn, well, if he ban evades.... |
| 08:42.39 | Gary | anyways, he/she is gone, please ignore the troll |
| 08:42.47 | troubled | gary has been around for months simonrvn |
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| 08:42.56 | simonrvn | ok |
| 08:43.07 | troubled | least i think its been months now :) |
| 08:43.23 | troubled | Gary: werent you the latest addition to the family? |
| 08:43.37 | troubled | old fart :) |
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| 08:43.54 | simonrvn | chan owner/founder |
| 08:44.02 | usn_work | ChanServ :P |
| 08:44.08 | Penix | wonder what happened to fooz... |
| 08:44.16 | simonrvn | (usually) here's i dunno who now |
| 08:44.29 | simonrvn | er, s,'s,, |
| 08:44.40 | simonrvn | fooz? haven't seen him in years |
| 08:44.55 | troubled | wasnt fooz on the ban list still along with mwilson or somehtin? |
| 08:45.02 | simonrvn | !fooz |
| 08:45.09 | troubled | !seen fooz |
| 08:45.09 | dpkg | fooz <n=chatzill@ip68-227-49-68.lv.lv.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 284d 5h 7m 41s ago, saying: 'do you still have the testing line in?'. |
| 08:45.14 | simonrvn | !zoof |
| 08:45.14 | dpkg | not zoof. fooz. |
| 08:45.24 | Penix | dpkg: you zoof |
| 08:45.25 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 08:45.38 | simonrvn | that's it! :) |
| 08:45.52 | troubled | its scary when you get a bunch of us old timers in here at the same time ;) |
| 08:46.25 | simonrvn | gets fricking nutty ;) |
| 08:46.41 | troubled | aye |
| 08:47.10 | troubled | lunaphyte: incogneato are we? |
| 08:47.14 | simonrvn | i recognise your nick |
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| 08:47.43 | lunitik | troubled: Also, how much of an old timer can you be when you haven't even figured out your IRC clients auto-complete ;) |
| 08:47.44 | troubled | bah, you all look the same to me >:) |
| 08:47.57 | simonrvn | lunitik: hehe |
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| 08:48.26 | troubled | not sure i follow ya |
| 08:48.38 | troubled | ahh oops :) |
| 08:48.45 | troubled | lunaphyte: sorry, wrong nick |
| 08:49.04 | lunitik | lunaphyte never actually talks... I feel bad for them though :( |
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| 08:49.57 | troubled | he must be one of our thousands of logging only bots on freenode |
| 08:50.05 | simonrvn | xchat's completion sucks ;) |
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| 08:50.31 | lunitik | simonrvn: It's actually pretty neat... it just has crappy defaults... |
| 08:50.32 | alinux-lb22 | hi i have a command that takes a lot of time to process how can I send it to the background to continue processing there |
| 08:50.56 | troubled | aindilis: ctrl-z |
| 08:51.03 | troubled | then "bg" |
| 08:51.15 | simonrvn | was on it the other month, must've been the ancient version |
| 08:51.16 | troubled | well, bg 2>&1 > /dev/null |
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| 08:51.21 | streuner | hm, "Alzheimer" is very strong |
| 08:51.26 | lunitik | simonrvn: It's possible to make it list in order of last spoken... and if you set the completion setting via /set high enough, it'll actually work |
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| 08:51.34 | troubled | alinux-lb22: better yet, just install "screen" :) |
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| 08:51.42 | simonrvn | lunitik: ah ok |
| 08:51.53 | simonrvn | or nohup |
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| 08:54.22 | usn_work | Is there anything special in Lenny to check, just in case that an old debian user wants to test it? |
| 08:54.40 | tarzeau | usn_work: it can be broken |
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| 08:54.57 | tarzeau | usn_work: the user is old, or the user is using debian since a long time? |
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| 08:56.24 | mosno | usn_work: there's a bunch of packages missing from testing right now, but it really depends what you're using it for and if you know how to work-around |
| 08:56.46 | Maulkin | What the hell?! |
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| 08:59.10 | Maulkin | Gary: thanks :) |
| 08:59.25 | simonrvn | Maulkin: hellos |
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| 09:00.18 | simonrvn | Maulkin: i did the first one, the troll did the second :/ |
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| 09:01.36 | troubled | simonrvn: umm, you missed about 10 !op s before that i think |
| 09:01.43 | Gary | Maulkin, you can clear my badly made ban if you like |
| 09:01.51 | simonrvn | icky. and yes i did |
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| 09:03.16 | ^shark_ | hi guys -- |
| 09:03.36 | ^shark_ | how do i convert .mp3 to .wav in etch |
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| 09:04.11 | ^shark_ | i have tried mpg321 -b 10000 -s songname.mp3 | sox -t wav -r 44100 -s -w -c 2 - songname.wav & mpg321 -w file.wav newfile.mp3 but no luck |
| 09:04.40 | ^shark_ | sorry its >> mpg321 -w file.mp3 newfile.wav |
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| 09:07.29 | ferret_0567 | how do I get the nvidia legacy driver on Debian Lenny? |
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| 09:14.02 | psycodad | hi, i have a etch box (updated some time ago from sarge). Now yesterday I've found that the box misteriously always boots a kernel that is imho not there (2.6.18-4). I purged all kernels until only 2.6.18-5 was in /boot and dpkg -l. No success still booting 2.6.18-4 from wherever. Now meanwhile by messing with grub i shot both my feet off and am wondering for tips to recover this box. |
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| 09:15.57 | psycodad | cause actually it yields grub error 15 (vmlinuz not found). I have booted into etch installer but couldn't see the raid and now i have booted into sysrescd and wait for grub to start. Any tips, links to read ? Thanks a lot, its our terminal server and people start to really *hug* the shit out of me ... |
| 09:16.56 | DarnOldDuck | The phrase 'up a creek' comes to mind. |
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| 09:17.18 | DarnOldDuck | Is that root on raid? |
| 09:17.33 | lunitik | psycodad: It's still booting to the grub terminal? |
| 09:17.42 | psycodad | DarnOldDuck: sorry my english is not good enough but it sounds like i feel ;) |
| 09:17.53 | psycodad | DarnOldDuck: yes, /boot and / are on raid |
| 09:18.12 | lunitik | psycodad: If you're sure you actually have a vmlinuz and initrd to match, you can tell grub manually where they are... |
| 09:18.44 | lunitik | psycodad: Then correct the menu.lst after... |
| 09:18.59 | psycodad | lunitik: i am currently in sysrescd's grub, i tried supergrub without success. After supergrub I got the grub menu, yes and i possibly could launch the grub shell from there i guess |
| 09:19.16 | psycodad | first, how do i mount the md devices manually ? |
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| 09:19.49 | marco_ | hi all |
| 09:19.56 | ferret_0567 | how do I get the nvidia legacy driver on Debian Lenny? |
| 09:20.09 | lunitik | !info nvidia-glx |
| 09:20.15 | dpkg | nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary Xorg driver), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 169.07-2 (sid), Packaged size: 4920 kB, Installed size: 14528 kB |
| 09:20.29 | lunitik | Umm, I thought that was the legacy drivers? |
| 09:20.40 | marco_ | I upgraded to lenny and now my vim-latexsuite does not work anymore. Has anybody heard about that problem? |
| 09:21.33 | lunitik | marco_: You check bts? |
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| 09:21.51 | lunitik | marco_: I'd guess anyone that knows about it discussed it there |
| 09:21.52 | jetscreamer | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.07/README/appendix-a.html |
| 09:22.03 | jetscreamer | Supported NVIDIA GPU Products |
| 09:22.10 | aes2 | When I run man ls (or any other command) I don't get any output. No error message. Nothing. What can this be? |
| 09:22.23 | ferret_0567 | lunitik: too new |
| 09:22.24 | lunitik | aes2: bad? |
| 09:22.32 | marco_ | lunitik: bts? |
| 09:22.33 | ferret_0567 | I have a NVIDIA GeForce 4 |
| 09:22.41 | lunitik | !tell marco_ about bts |
| 09:22.47 | jetscreamer | something iirc |
| 09:22.50 | Fuzzy | is there a specific room for lenny questions? |
| 09:22.51 | moshii | psycodad: you should be able to mount your md devices normally, if the kernel supports them it should detect them automagically |
| 09:22.53 | jetscreamer | 93.something |
| 09:22.53 | ferret_0567 | !info nvidia-glx-legacy |
| 09:22.55 | dpkg | nvidia-glx-legacy: (NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (71xx legacy version)), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7185-4 (sid), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 16 kB |
| 09:22.59 | lunitik | Fuzzy: Here |
| 09:23.06 | jetscreamer | read the link luke |
| 09:23.18 | marco_ | lunitik : ah ok, thanks I gonna have a look |
| 09:24.09 | jetscreamer | 96.43.xx |
| 09:24.15 | Fuzzy | i'm trying to install xen into a fresh lenny install. I've got everything installed except a xen enabled kernel, which i'm not seeing anywhere. I'm reading down the developers mailing list for xen and i'm not seeing any answers to this question (amd64) |
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| 09:24.22 | jetscreamer | so whatever you can find up to that in debian sources |
| 09:24.39 | aes2 | apt-file search /usr/bin/man does not find a package containing /usr/bin/man |
| 09:24.52 | psycodad | moshii: it seems the etch installer didn't see them, neither does sysrescd. However I was able to run grub now in sysrescd and did root(hd0,0) setup (hd0) |
| 09:25.09 | aes2 | Why doesn't it just function like it should? |
| 09:25.17 | jetscreamer | it does |
| 09:25.20 | moshii | psycodad: you put grub on all your devices I guess?? |
| 09:25.23 | jetscreamer | unless it's broke |
| 09:25.43 | psycodad | moshii: i have sda and sdb as members of the raid, and i did the above analogous to hd1 |
| 09:25.45 | moshii | Fuzzy: I don't think there are xen kernels in lenny for some reason.. |
| 09:25.57 | Fuzzy | that doesn't make sense |
| 09:25.59 | jetscreamer | and wouldn't you apt-file show man ? |
| 09:26.07 | psycodad | is / or /boot the partition i should setup grub on/against ? |
| 09:26.17 | Fuzzy | there needs to be a xen enabled kernel or this won't work |
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| 09:26.26 | jetscreamer | !xen |
| 09:26.27 | dpkg | somebody said xen was an open source virtual machine monitor, developed by the University of Cambridge. It is intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. Operating systems must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). This enables Xen to achieve high performance virtualization without special hardware support. try #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net |
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| 09:26.47 | jetscreamer | ask there maybe |
| 09:26.49 | moshii | Fuzzy: there need to be patches to apply to the source to generate those kernels.. there is a reason the images aren't there |
| 09:27.26 | Fuzzy | yea i guess i go there next |
| 09:27.32 | moshii | factoid is a bit wrong.. you can run unmodded systems if you have hardware support |
| 09:27.37 | jetscreamer | !info linux-image-2.6.23-1-xen-686 |
| 09:27.39 | aes2 | jetscreamer: That returns tons of results and I already know what I am looking for in the first place: /usr/bin/man, no? |
| 09:27.40 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6.23-1-xen-686: (Linux 2.6.23 image on i686), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.6.23-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1232 kB, Installed size: 1252 kB |
| 09:27.47 | Fuzzy | moshii: you can't hvm your dom0 |
| 09:27.51 | Fuzzy | from what i've seen |
| 09:28.01 | jetscreamer | err |
| 09:28.02 | moshii | Fuzzy: why would you want to? |
| 09:28.09 | Fuzzy | your the one that just suggested it |
| 09:28.13 | jetscreamer | that's the only one afaict |
| 09:28.26 | jetscreamer | nothing amd64 specific.. compile one |
| 09:28.33 | moshii | Fuzzy: no, you can runn un-modded oses, domu's.. |
| 09:28.34 | jetscreamer | maybe there are issues |
| 09:28.56 | Fuzzy | moshii: we were never talking about domU's i'm not sure why you even went on that tangent |
| 09:29.10 | moshii | Fuzzy: uh, I was talking about the factoid |
| 09:29.17 | Fuzzy | thanks jetscreamer |
| 09:29.35 | moshii | Fuzzy: 09:27 < moshii> factoid is a bit wrong.. |
| 09:30.11 | aes2 | !info /usr/bin/man |
| 09:30.26 | jetscreamer | no package by that name eh |
| 09:31.22 | aes2 | dpkg already told me that, I just don't know the interface to dpkg to tell me all the packages containing /usr/bin/man |
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| 09:31.36 | aes2 | I will find it somewhere else. |
| 09:31.49 | jetscreamer | apt-file show man |grep usr/bin ? |
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| 09:32.59 | aes2 | This also doesn't show it: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=man&mode=exactfilename&suite=testing&arch=any |
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| 09:33.49 | aes2 | jetscreamer: no, it doesn't list it. |
| 09:34.02 | ferret_0567 | 71xxx legacy version?!?! |
| 09:34.10 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:34.12 | ferret_0567 | but there is a 96xx out now |
| 09:34.33 | jetscreamer | ok well use whichever you can get working |
| 09:34.40 | aes2 | jetscreamer: symbolic links are not indexed? |
| 09:34.55 | ferret_0567 | and err...there is no nvidia-glx-legacy package |
| 09:35.00 | jetscreamer | apparently not by apt-file |
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| 09:35.10 | aes2 | jetscreamer: who thinks of these systems? ........ |
| 09:35.16 | lunitik | aes2: symlinks aren't technically files... they're filesystem pointers... |
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| 09:35.38 | jetscreamer | !tell ferret_0567 -about pdo |
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| 09:36.23 | aes2 | lunitik: it depends on your notion of what a file is. Your statement has no meaning whatsoever and does not contain information. |
| 09:36.36 | jetscreamer | or does it |
| 09:36.42 | lunitik | aes2: Could be the post or pre inst script simply creates the link, but it's not actually in the package |
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| 09:37.52 | aes2 | lunitik: what do I care about that as a user? It (apt-file or the Debian system) is simply a design that hasn't been thought through. It's a completely basic operation to ask where a file originated. |
| 09:37.54 | lunitik | aes2: By that use, a file is a block on the physical media containing info... |
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| 09:37.58 | ferret_0567 | well...there is no nvidia-glx-legacy there, either |
| 09:38.23 | ferret_0567 | argh! can't I get a package from somewhere? |
| 09:38.43 | ferret_0567 | and dircolors is horribly broken |
| 09:38.54 | aes2 | lunitik: the fact that there is a symbolic link needs to be stored on the physical media too. That it takes less space doesn't really matter. |
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| 09:39.04 | psycodad | could somebody check this and tell me what could happen here: http://pastebin.ca/867302 ? thx a lot. |
| 09:39.19 | ferret_0567 | dircolors -b:LS_COLORS=''; |
| 09:39.21 | ferret_0567 | export LS_COLORS |
| 09:39.43 | ferret_0567 | dircolors -p prints a database though :(. I don't get it |
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| 09:40.21 | rgr | psycodad: thats a pretty vague request. What are you expecting? What did you change? |
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| 09:40.31 | themill | ferret_0567: one question at a time, please. Are you running etch? |
| 09:40.33 | ferret_0567 | wtf? TERM=linux dircolors -b works |
| 09:40.37 | ferret_0567 | themill: lenny |
| 09:40.49 | ferret_0567 | I'm using TERM=screen for GNU Screen |
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| 09:41.46 | ferret_0567 | there is no nvidia-glx-legacy package for lenny |
| 09:41.53 | psycodad | rgr: i didn't do anything special... I upgraded the box some months ago to sarge, yesterday i wanted to compile fuse modules with m-a and found I run a kernel, that I have no clue where it comes from and I am also unable to update/install other kernels (well i am actually) and they end in /boot but the system always boots that f*cking 2.6.18-4 |
| 09:41.55 | ferret_0567 | I need one of the 96xx variety |
| 09:42.48 | moshii | psycodad: you haven't fixed you bootloader? |
| 09:42.52 | psycodad | and even find / -name *2.6.18-4* doesnt find this kernel anywhere. |
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| 09:43.16 | themill | ferret_0567: /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 09:43.28 | psycodad | moshii: i was able to 'fix' grub from sysrescd with the commands i wrote some minutes ago, now i'm back at the problem that made me mess with grub at first place |
| 09:43.30 | moshii | psycodad: you're not on a vm or something are you? |
| 09:43.40 | psycodad | moshii: nope. |
| 09:44.03 | themill | ferret_0567: the wiki page gives instructions about lenny packages |
| 09:44.10 | riganta | Hi Guys, I have installed and configured my DNS server but when i run named-checkzone mydomain.com db.mydomain.com i get the error message "loading master file db.mydomain.com: file not found" anyone has any clue because I am stuck here |
| 09:44.15 | moshii | psycodad: when you boot you get a grub menu? |
| 09:44.34 | moshii | psycodad: you ran update-grub to regenerate the menu.lst? |
| 09:44.54 | psycodad | moshii: yes, and the grub menu even offers me a 2.4x kernel that is gone long ago (not on disk anymore, at least from what i can say) |
| 09:45.33 | psycodad | moshii: my menu.lst is at http://pastebin.ca/867302, it looks ok to me. |
| 09:45.43 | aes2 | I reinstalled man-db, but it doesn't help anything. |
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| 09:46.23 | themill | aes2: what's the actual problem |
| 09:46.28 | Arv3n | Hello! |
| 09:47.06 | tarzeau | and is any of you in berlin? |
| 09:47.08 | Arv3n | Is there a way to use the netinstall from the Etch KDE install cd? I ask because I am planning on upgrading to lenny and don't want to download updated packages, then actually install etch, then upgrade to lenny. |
| 09:47.11 | moshii | psycodad: do you a menu when the machine boots? |
| 09:47.24 | Arv3n | waste of time imo. |
| 09:47.29 | Arv3n | especially when my internet is slow. |
| 09:47.58 | Arv3n | is there some type of boot command? |
| 09:48.01 | aes2 | themill: the problem is that I want to be able to do man ls and see the man page for ls. |
| 09:48.06 | moshii | s/ponder/ponders |
| 09:48.07 | Arv3n | ***moshii, ? |
| 09:48.15 | moshii | Arv3n: you mean etch disc 1? |
| 09:48.19 | Arv3n | yes. |
| 09:48.20 | Arv3n | kde version. |
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| 09:48.32 | moshii | such a thing exists? |
| 09:48.33 | aes2 | themill: the current result is man ls => <newline> $ |
| 09:48.43 | Arv3n | moshii, i dont know, i was asking. |
| 09:48.56 | aes2 | themill: (the program has no output) |
| 09:49.15 | moshii | Arv3n: I presume you mean etch disc 1 or do you have some funky custom thing? |
| 09:49.21 | Arv3n | no. |
| 09:49.23 | Arv3n | etch disk 1. |
| 09:49.25 | aes2 | themill: I also ran strace on it, but I don't see anything odd. Running it as root also has no effect. |
| 09:49.34 | Arv3n | there is a kde version and a gnome version of debian etch. |
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| 09:49.41 | Arv3n | of cd 1. |
| 09:49.48 | Arv3n | there may even be an xfce edition. |
| 09:49.52 | moshii | Arv3n: in any case, your best bet is just to google for debian-installer and download a recentish snapshot |
| 09:49.53 | usn_work | tarzeau, the user is using debain since Sarge became testing |
| 09:50.02 | Nathan1_ | I'm trying to run a new install of Debian (desktop). Everything seems to be set up but that the video displays a blank screen after post. |
| 09:50.04 | themill | aes2: do you have a localised manpages-XX package installed? |
| 09:50.06 | Arv3n | moshii, i have nothing installed and im on a livecd. |
| 09:50.08 | psycodad | moshii: yes, i get grub menu, showing me 2 kernels that aren't there really: 2.4-xx and the mysterious 2.6.18-4 |
| 09:50.43 | aes2 | themill: no |
| 09:50.54 | Nathan1_ | I can shift-ctrl-f1 into command prompt, but don't know what to run in order to change video settings. |
| 09:50.55 | tarzeau | !debain |
| 09:50.55 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 09:51.04 | psycodad | moshii: even in /lib/modules i only have the 2.6.18-5 stuff... I have no clue where this 2.6.18-4 comes from... I start to believe there is a hidden partition or whatever somehwere |
| 09:51.15 | moshii | Arv3n: you mean debian live then? you could do an install via debootstrap |
| 09:51.16 | tarzeau | Nathan1_: textmode or framebuffer? |
| 09:51.22 | tarzeau | Nathan1_: there's svgatextmode and fbset |
| 09:51.29 | themill | Arv3n: all the install cds are the same installer (business card, netinstall, full full-kde) they just have different packages on the cd. You can just to a minimal install and then upgrade to lenny. |
| 09:51.43 | Nathan1_ | tarzeau: What do you recommend? |
| 09:51.45 | ferret_0567 | ok, I'm reading the wiki |
| 09:51.51 | moshii | psycodad: I'm guessing you have a rogue version of grub/a boot partition with some kernels that you can't remember hanging around |
| 09:52.00 | Arv3n | themill, yes, but what is the command on bootup for doing that? |
| 09:52.06 | Arv3n | thats what im looking for. |
| 09:52.10 | Nathan1_ | tarzeau: I think I have Gnome running, but I can't see it. |
| 09:52.13 | tarzeau | Nathan1_: i prefer textmode, since the framebuffer stuff is really coded bad (=slow), for x86/amd64, the rest mostly don't have real textmode memory addressing |
| 09:52.15 | Arv3n | all i need is a cli systemt o start with. |
| 09:52.22 | tarzeau | Nathan1_: x11 is different |
| 09:52.27 | themill | Arv3n: you don't need one. Just don't select any tasks when you get to the tasksel stage |
| 09:52.34 | tarzeau | Nathan1_: if you mean x11, check xorg.conf in /etc/X11 and try xvidtune |
| 09:52.34 | Arv3n | what? |
| 09:52.40 | themill | Arv3n: In particular, don't select "desktop" :) |
| 09:52.42 | Arv3n | does that involve booting up in expert mode? because ive never seen that. |
| 09:52.43 | tarzeau | Nathan1_: for the other to find out try www.linuks.mine.nu/people/vgafun/ |
| 09:52.50 | Arv3n | never seen it. |
| 09:52.51 | themill | Arv3n: no. that's in the normal installer |
| 09:52.55 | tarzeau | Nathan1_: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/vga/ actually |
| 09:52.56 | Arv3n | OH. |
| 09:52.58 | Arv3n | it asks that? |
| 09:53.03 | moshii | Arv3n: if you can't work out how to install lenny are you sure you should be running it? |
| 09:53.04 | themill | aes2: have you tried reinstalling coreutils? |
| 09:53.06 | tarzeau | the vgamode.c will tell you what you have if run as root and in console |
| 09:53.08 | psycodad | moshii: i just saw that the raid has only one drive...i guess that could be one reason for the effects i see... |
| 09:53.20 | Arv3n | moshii, installing it is no hard thing for me. |
| 09:53.29 | themill | aes2: and more importantly, does /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz exist |
| 09:53.30 | Arv3n | i just dont want to download it all over again, which will involve installing another distro. |
| 09:53.38 | Nathan1_ | tarzeau: How do I change video settings? what is this. |
| 09:53.49 | Nathan1_ | Wha do I type, thanks. |
| 09:53.53 | moshii | psycodad: you're running from a disk that once was in the array? |
| 09:53.53 | themill | Arv3n: have you read the release notes or install guide? the talk about exactly this. |
| 09:53.55 | aes2 | themill: no, yes |
| 09:54.02 | Arv3n | themill, no. |
| 09:54.15 | Arv3n | themill, do i just start up the cl installer, then it'll give me a choice with what packages i want to install? |
| 09:54.39 | aes2 | themill: I cannot select reinstall in Synaptic for coreutils. |
| 09:54.42 | moshii | Arv3n: if you don't tell it to install anything extra than the base system it won't |
| 09:54.46 | aes2 | themill: is it possible to do that on the console? |
| 09:54.59 | Arv3n | moshii, i have the kde cd. |
| 09:55.01 | psycodad | moshii: no, its sda and sdb and currently only sdb is member of the raid, so I assume i get the kernel from sda which the doesn't make it into the raid and therefor doesn't get synced to the 2.6.18-5 stuff. I bet I have all that crap in /boot on sda |
| 09:55.11 | themill | Arv3n: it will give you a set of "tasks" (almost at the end iirc) you can select. They are things like "desktop" "web server" "laptop". Don't chose any of them and be happy. |
| 09:55.20 | themill | !tell Arv3n about ig |
| 09:55.29 | moshii | Arv3n: you have a debian-live cd that contains kde.. that's not a debian install cd |
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| 09:55.43 | Arv3n | i DONT THINK YOU UNDERSTAND. |
| 09:55.46 | Arv3n | i am using the KDE LIVE CD. |
| 09:55.50 | ferret_0567 | Package nvidia-kernel-source is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 09:55.52 | Arv3n | i mean, install cd. |
| 09:55.56 | Arv3n | it DOESNT give me that option. |
| 09:56.02 | moshii | Arv3n: There is no kde install cd |
| 09:56.03 | Arv3n | ive already said that, and the fact that im using the kde install cd many times. |
| 09:56.04 | ferret_0567 | argh! |
| 09:56.07 | Arv3n | are you kidding me? |
| 09:56.13 | Arv3n | its cd 1 of the debian repo cds or we/. |
| 09:56.16 | Arv3n | *w/e. |
| 09:56.16 | Arv3n | sec. |
| 09:56.23 | moshii | Arv3n: you have a disc that boots into kde? |
| 09:56.35 | Arv3n | .. |
| 09:56.35 | Arv3n | yes. |
| 09:56.43 | Arv3n | second. |
| 09:56.49 | ferret_0567 | why is this? |
| 09:56.51 | moshii | Arv3n: that's not an install disc then, that's a "live cd" |
| 09:56.59 | ferret_0567 | Package nvidia-kernel-source is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 09:57.01 | alinux-lb22 | hi all I do have a php script that is executed from webserver using a URL, the script contains a bash script, this bash scripts telnets to a unix server and performs some commands then exits...this script is working fine on my debian server however on my RHEL4 it is not working fine I checked full path, permissions etc..on the RHEL server it connects successfully but then it disconnects without performing it;s functions ...any ideas what might have |
| 09:57.02 | Arv3n | debian-40r2-i386-kde-CD-1.iso 02-Jan-2008 14:53 624M |
| 09:57.05 | alinux-lb22 | gone wrong here ? On the debian server there are no special settings it runs out of the box |
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| 09:57.12 | Arv3n | that. |
| 09:57.15 | themill | moshii: there is a debian install cd that has kde as the default wm not gnome. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r2-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 09:57.16 | Arv3n | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 09:57.22 | jetscreamer | ferret_0567: if you get tired of that, http://linux.hfds.com/files/n-i.txt |
| 09:57.23 | Arv3n | my god. |
| 09:57.24 | Arv3n | >.> |
| 09:57.30 | Arv3n | and i want to do a netinstall from it. |
| 09:57.35 | Arv3n | thats what ive been trying to say. |
| 09:57.54 | Arv3n | all 10+ minutes ive been here, lol. |
| 09:57.55 | moshii | Arv3n: ok, well, you can only do an etch netinstall from that |
| 09:58.01 | Arv3n | -.- |
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| 09:58.17 | Nathan1_ | How do I fix video in my Debian install. After it posts the screen goes funky and hard to see what I'm looking at. |
| 09:58.28 | moshii | Arv3n: well, maybe those 10 minutes would have been better spent reading the documentation that people have written? |
| 09:58.33 | ferret_0567 | I need the legacy source though |
| 09:58.45 | Arv3n | moshii, i did a google search for around 30 minutes the other day. |
| 09:58.46 | jetscreamer | try to add vga=normal in your boot line |
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| 09:58.59 | Arv3n | i thought irc would be faster, and i was right. however it did take a while. |
| 09:59.11 | Nathan1_ | vga=normal, ok how do I get to change my boot line. thanks. |
| 09:59.15 | ebw | How can I deactivate my mouse in X.org (preferrably temporarily) |
| 09:59.20 | Arv3n | Nathan1_ |
| 09:59.22 | moshii | Arv3n: um, google != documentation |
| 09:59.28 | jetscreamer | hit e at the grub prompt, then e again on the kernel line |
| 09:59.40 | Arv3n | moshii, google is better than documentation. |
| 09:59.45 | Arv3n | google leads to documentation and other things. |
| 09:59.52 | themill | aes2: "aptitude reinstall coreutils" would do that, but if you have the man page already, then that's not a problem so don't worry about it. From a terminal, as root, /etc/cron.daily/man-db |
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| 09:59.53 | jetscreamer | hit esc once, then the b |
| 09:59.58 | jetscreamer | b for boot |
| 10:00.12 | jetscreamer | esc to stop editing the line.. |
| 10:00.13 | Nathan1_ | Arv3n: Yes? |
| 10:00.19 | moshii | themill: that disc is just a installer with the kde packages I'm guessing? |
| 10:00.33 | themill | moshii: yes. |
| 10:00.55 | themill | Arv3n: what I have said will work... what's the problem? |
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| 10:01.08 | ferret_0567 | I need the legacy source for the nvidia legacy kernel module |
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| 10:03.11 | aes2 | themill: I executed that command, but man ls still gives the same results. |
| 10:03.33 | themill | aes2: :( |
| 10:03.35 | ferret_0567 | I can't get it, wtf? |
| 10:03.35 | Nathan1_ | jetscreamer: Thanks for the help, I get the same exact result though. |
| 10:03.40 | Nathan1_ | :( |
| 10:03.45 | themill | aes2: do any other man pages work? |
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| 10:03.57 | jetscreamer | :/ |
| 10:04.04 | ferret_0567 | I have "main contrib non-free" in all the repository lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:04.19 | ferret_0567 | argh! |
| 10:04.19 | jetscreamer | it's not in testing |
| 10:04.34 | jetscreamer | for many moons |
| 10:04.51 | themill | ferret_0567: as the wiki page said, you'll need a lenny/sid mix to get it working |
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| 10:04.55 | ferret_0567 | well, how do I make a new nvidia legacy installation into a new deb package then |
| 10:04.55 | jetscreamer | you can probably just get the sid packages |
| 10:05.01 | ferret_0567 | themill: ok |
| 10:05.06 | jetscreamer | or just follow that link i gave you |
| 10:05.11 | Nathan1_ | jetscreamer: I went back and checked my boot line and it's back to the way that it was. I don't think esc saves that changes I make. |
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| 10:05.13 | aes2 | themill: no |
| 10:05.25 | aes2 | themill: random tries don't, anyway. |
| 10:05.32 | jetscreamer | Nathan1_: the changes are not saved at all except for the one boot |
| 10:05.39 | Nathan1_ | ok |
| 10:05.49 | Nathan1_ | Well it didn't work. |
| 10:05.52 | ferret_0567 | can't get the mix to work |
| 10:05.54 | jetscreamer | :/ |
| 10:06.06 | ferret_0567 | the webpage with the info won't load! |
| 10:06.24 | jetscreamer | the gods are angry |
| 10:06.44 | jetscreamer | make sacrifice to the god Xorg and the subgod NVIDIA |
| 10:08.04 | themill | aes2: does this work: man -l /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz |
| 10:08.20 | jetscreamer | their paypal address is..... |
| 10:08.26 | themill | heh |
| 10:08.39 | aes2 | themill: no |
| 10:08.43 | themill | wtf? |
| 10:08.45 | aes2 | themill: no output |
| 10:09.05 | jetscreamer | i lthought you had to zless the .gz manpages |
| 10:09.09 | jetscreamer | or soi |
| 10:09.11 | aes2 | themill: man dasdasdas does return No manual entry... |
| 10:09.11 | jetscreamer | so |
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| 10:09.53 | themill | aes2: "LANG=C man -l /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz" |
| 10:09.53 | jetscreamer | or was that readmes |
| 10:10.19 | themill | jetscreamer: you do, but man -l will format a specified file rather than go through the search path |
| 10:10.28 | themill | jetscreamer: man man :) |
| 10:10.50 | aes2 | themill: same |
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| 10:11.11 | ruben_ | Hello, what is the way to obtan xdnd? wich package contains that? |
| 10:11.26 | jetscreamer | !tell ruben_ -about search |
| 10:12.16 | jetscreamer | !dict which |
| 10:12.18 | dpkg | Dictionary 'which' (3 of 12): Note: The which was formerly often used for which. The expressions which that, which as, were also sometimes used by way of emphasis. ;; The temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. --1 Cor. iii. 17. ;; 4. A compound relative or indefinite pronoun, standing for any one which, whichever, that which, those which, the . . . which, and the like; as, take which you will.. |
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| 10:12.55 | ruben_ | jetscreamer: returns nothing |
| 10:13.08 | jetscreamer | might not be in debian? |
| 10:13.21 | ruben_ | do you known wich package have it? |
| 10:13.24 | ruben_ | has |
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| 10:13.51 | themill | aes2: hrm.... and you said that you'd reinstalled man-db. (BTW are you running etch?) |
| 10:13.59 | aes2 | themill: testing |
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| 10:14.16 | jetscreamer | never heard of it ruben_ |
| 10:14.22 | dimir | Morning! |
| 10:14.31 | ruben_ | jetscreamer: it's drag & drog |
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| 10:15.16 | themill | isn't xdnd a window manager protocol? |
| 10:15.40 | jetscreamer | :) |
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| 10:16.01 | jetscreamer | ruben_: ask in #xorg ? |
| 10:16.16 | themill | is there a #debian-x on oftc? |
| 10:16.38 | jetscreamer | oftc isn't in my autoconnect |
| 10:17.06 | themill | (there is :) |
| 10:17.47 | themill | aes2: is /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz a real file or is it a symlink? (ls -l /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz) |
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| 10:21.38 | aes2 | themill: real file |
| 10:21.49 | yaboo | whats the apt-setup command, been a while since I used debian |
| 10:21.57 | jetscreamer | deprecated |
| 10:22.03 | yaboo | ok |
| 10:22.03 | themill | !wayttd yaboo |
| 10:22.03 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, yaboo? |
| 10:22.06 | jetscreamer | !mirrors |
| 10:22.06 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 10:22.20 | jetscreamer | apt-spy was broke, back it up before you use it if you do |
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| 10:22.45 | yaboo | trying to setup my apt to collect packages from a source |
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| 10:23.02 | alinux-lb22 | hi all I do have a php.ini file in my apache/conf/ dir and another on in /etc/php/ ..what is the diff between the two ? |
| 10:23.58 | deStone_ | hey -- i dropped connection to a server i was shelled in on ... |
| 10:24.02 | deStone_ | but i had an app running |
| 10:24.11 | deStone_ | can i get back and get console msgs anyway? |
| 10:24.17 | PuckCh | hi all |
| 10:25.08 | PuckCh | I'm using enlightenment with Debian, and since the last dist-upgrade, it seems that e17 is now the default |
| 10:25.12 | PuckCh | right ? |
| 10:26.10 | themill | aes2: :( No idea then. Does it work from a different terminal? How about if you set PAGER=/usr/bin/less first: LANG=C PAGER=/usr/bin/less man -l /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz |
| 10:26.33 | aes2 | themill: when I use emacs and Woman, I can see the manpage. |
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| 10:26.56 | themill | that's why I'm interested in your use of /usr/bin/see as your pager |
| 10:27.01 | aes2 | themill: a different pager works |
| 10:27.26 | themill | aes2: so it's either a bug in /usr/bin/see or a config problem with your mailcap |
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| 10:27.38 | bren | hey, ive got a problem while trying to mount usb drives on half-thin clients. CD's mount ok but usb drives are found yet not mounted, 'no info.callout.add found'. i havent access to the server right now but any tips would be appreciated. |
| 10:27.59 | themill | !tell bren about automount |
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| 10:28.07 | aes2 | themill: what should the mailcap entry be? |
| 10:28.10 | aes2 | themill: currently text/plain maps to emacs. |
| 10:28.32 | aes2 | themill: or rather: what is the mime type of man pages. |
| 10:28.51 | themill | aes2: nfi... always hated that black magic (well, never tried to work it out). manpages aren't plain text once they're formatted though. |
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| 10:29.23 | aes2 | themill: I figured out how mailcap works, though. |
| 10:29.35 | aes2 | themill: it can use a better UI, but otherwise, it's fine. |
| 10:30.46 | aes2 | themill: I now just export the PAGER variable and it is fine too. |
| 10:30.48 | aes2 | themill: thanks |
| 10:31.10 | themill | np |
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| 10:40.17 | happla | Verifying ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso |
| 10:40.20 | happla | I feel dirty =( |
| 10:40.52 | themill | ewww |
| 10:41.12 | themill | !ubuntusmite happla |
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| 10:46.29 | ferret_0567 | in Debian, how do you remove a service from a runlevel so that init(8) doesn't start it on boot? |
| 10:46.51 | Penix | man update-rc.d |
| 10:46.53 | ferret_0567 | and wtf is up with ifconfig not showing as a normal user? |
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| 10:47.12 | Penix | ferret_0567: it's /sbin/ifconfig. probably not in the user's path |
| 10:47.13 | mosno | i'm looking at buildd.debian.org for the bulid log of a certain packages and am wondering, for a given package: a) why there are no logs; b) wondering why the logs are so old -- can anyone help shed some light? |
| 10:47.13 | themill | ferret_0567: one question at a time.... :) |
| 10:47.21 | themill | !tell ferret_0567 about path |
| 10:47.32 | ferret_0567 | on yeah! |
| 10:47.34 | ferret_0567 | oh yeah! |
| 10:47.37 | ferret_0567 | I see |
| 10:47.57 | ^shark_ | ferret_0567: use sudo |
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| 10:49.01 | themill | ferret_0567: what were you planning on replacing init with? |
| 10:49.28 | ferret_0567 | themill: nothing |
| 10:49.40 | ferret_0567 | unless maybe upstart is faster.. |
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| 10:49.47 | Penix | don't bother |
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| 10:50.15 | ferret_0567 | I can do whatever I want with MY machine; if I break it, it's MY fault |
| 10:50.59 | Penix | alright. calm down |
| 10:51.01 | Penix | geez |
| 10:51.05 | ferret_0567 | it would take some time to convert all the init scripts and make it good enough for daily use though |
| 10:51.13 | ferret_0567 | I'll forget about it for now |
| 10:51.18 | RichiH | there is something like webmin which does not suck as hooribly. what is its name, again? |
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| 10:51.29 | elky | ssh |
| 10:51.30 | RichiH | and no, i do not plan on using it myself :p |
| 10:51.55 | RichiH | elky: that is what i would use, yes. i am tasked to find a web front-end, though. |
| 10:51.58 | themill | ferret_0567: init isn't really replaceable in that way. Init is defined in a kernel commandline parameter (not through update-rc.d) |
| 10:53.09 | elky | RichiH, i know what you're thinking about, but for the life of me i cant remember either |
| 10:53.50 | RichiH | elky: heh |
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| 10:54.34 | bren | themill: automount is correctly mounting cds but not mounting usb drives at all. |
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| 10:55.08 | ferret_0567 | init=/sbin/init.upstart |
| 10:55.11 | ferret_0567 | simple :) |
| 10:55.35 | ferret_0567 | and fix all the init scripts and init subsystem maintenace programs while your at it, too |
| 10:56.24 | y7 | do i have to install apt-get or does it come with the i386 version? |
| 10:56.50 | lunitik | y7: Uhh... it's pre-installed |
| 10:57.00 | y7 | so why doesn't apt-get BitchX work? |
| 10:57.05 | lunitik | y7: Debian basically IS apt/dpkg/etc |
| 10:57.08 | y7 | i mean apt-get install BitchX |
| 10:57.21 | lunitik | y7: apt-get install install bitchx |
| 10:57.26 | lunitik | y7: case matters |
| 10:57.36 | lunitik | uhh... only one install |
| 10:57.41 | y7 | ya, i thought it mattered to, that's why i used cap B and X |
| 10:57.50 | y7 | i had to use cap B and X for my redhat 6.2 version |
| 10:58.00 | lunitik | y7: yeah... no... use lower case |
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| 10:58.10 | y7 | k, thx |
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| 10:58.46 | lunitik | y7: Actually, apparently it's not even in lenny/testing |
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| 10:59.13 | y7 | "warning: /usr/lib/xll/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory" |
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| 10:59.19 | lunitik | y7: Try irssi if you want a console based app... or xchat for gtk, and konversation for gtk |
| 10:59.21 | y7 | i get that error msg when installing bitchx |
| 10:59.22 | ferret_0567 | mwahahahaha! I am a evil mad GENIUS! I installed nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-spource from Sid and procedded to build it wih m-a on Lenny |
| 10:59.42 | lunitik | y7: Does it still install? |
| 10:59.50 | y7 | how do i check? |
| 11:00.08 | lunitik | y7: Does it finish? Can you run bitchx? |
| 11:00.17 | y7 | yes, it installed |
| 11:00.25 | themill | !dbugs 451373 |
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| 11:00.27 | lunitik | y7: k... then I wouldn't worry about it |
| 11:00.28 | dpkg | DONE:#451373:N[ftp.debian.org] RM: ircii-pana -- RoQA; security issues, abandoned upstream, unmainted; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:09:02 UTC |
| 11:00.35 | themill | bitchx ^^ |
| 11:00.38 | ferret_0567 | how do I build this sorurce package out of sid though? Source Package: nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-96xx (96.43.01-2) [non-free] |
| 11:00.39 | y7 | root is bad i guess ;\ |
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| 11:01.11 | y7 | [MonJan21-05:58:49] <lunitik> y7: Actually, apparently it's not even in lenny/testing |
| 11:01.14 | y7 | what's that mean? |
| 11:01.19 | ferret_0567 | y7: of course it is! |
| 11:01.28 | themill | ferret_0567: no it's not |
| 11:01.29 | lunitik | y7: I don't use stable |
| 11:01.31 | ferret_0567 | it's r00t, the destroyer of hard drives |
| 11:01.57 | lunitik | y7: If you don't know the difference, you're probably running etch/stable |
| 11:02.00 | ferret_0567 | and everything else inside your computer |
| 11:02.08 | TapoutT | on a console that has a panic, is there a way to scroll up? I hit scroll lock and it won't let me go up .. |
| 11:02.09 | y7 | i chose the stable over the beta or whatever it offered ;) |
| 11:02.11 | themill | y7: bitchx is vulnerable, unmaintained and no-one is looking after it. It has been removed from future versions od debian. |
| 11:02.17 | ferret_0567 | themill: of course it is, in the wrong hands... |
| 11:02.24 | y7 | so xchat? |
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| 11:03.00 | ferret_0567 | !about source |
| 11:03.00 | themill | ferret_0567: it has 3 CVEs against it and they are unfixed. Wrong hands isn't the problem. |
| 11:03.06 | lunitik | y7: XChat is a better solution, sure... if you chose "desktop environment" you likely ended up with Gnome |
| 11:03.19 | ferret_0567 | I need help about building source packages |
| 11:03.38 | y7 | yes, i think gnome is already installed |
| 11:03.52 | ferret_0567 | I must build this out of Sid to go with the nvidia-kernel-source-95xx package I build with m-a out of Sid: Source Package: nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-96xx (96.43.01-2) [non-free] |
| 11:03.54 | y7 | does it bog down the OS with more stuff installed or just takes up more hdd space? |
| 11:03.59 | lunitik | y7: k... then install xchat... it is the best gnome based client |
| 11:04.12 | ferret_0567 | err...95 should be 96 |
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| 11:07.08 | y7 | is there anywhere that i can find a lit of commonly used commands and how to use them? |
| 11:07.19 | y7 | IE: shortcuts so i don't have to click through the menus to open a terminal |
| 11:07.34 | themill | !general cli tutorial |
| 11:07.35 | dpkg | rumour has it, general cli tutorial is http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ |
| 11:07.37 | ferret_0567 | any ideas about building source packages? |
| 11:07.45 | ferret_0567 | I need userland libs to go with my kernel module |
| 11:07.56 | y7 | thx guys |
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| 11:24.10 | enouf | ferret_0567: you have non-free in your sources.list? if not follow the link, it shows the depends |
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| 11:26.27 | TapoutT | my debian machine has been panic'n over a period of a month. I gotta go reboot it. Is there a way to scroll up on the panic window so I can see what is causing it? scroll lock doesn't let me toggle the up arrow to see it |
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| 11:37.22 | PingFloyd | TapoutT: try checking logs |
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| 11:42.44 | blahdeblah | Hi. In the GNOME preferences system, how does "Removable Drives and Media Preferences" determine what's a digital camera and what's just a removable drive? When i put my camera's SD card in, the camera script runs, and i want it to run when i put any old SD card in. |
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| 11:45.52 | giorgian | hi. is there a way to get information about a socket listed in /proc/pid_of_some_process/fd in the form of socket:[140996857]? |
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| 11:48.42 | Ab3l | how do one set x11vnx to respawn? |
| 11:48.50 | hoodlum_ | when i performed a dist-upgrade, mdadm stopped detecting my raid5 config, and now on startup i have to perform 'mdrun' to get it back up and running... i noticed the mdadm.conf has last all noticeable values.. |
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| 11:50.38 | ribasushi | hi |
| 11:51.12 | ribasushi | is there a way currently to build an initramfs for a monolithic kernel? |
| 11:51.45 | ribasushi | I need it for root on LVM, but want everything that is on the system (i.e. non-modular) to be compiled in |
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| 11:54.58 | hoodlum_ | hrmm |
| 11:58.22 | hoodlum_ | would it just make sense to build the array again, and hope the data is still there to be accessed? |
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| 12:00.35 | Whitman | I'm wanting to put together a kiosk like system with just 2 big icons on the desktop, no panels or ability to run other apps other than those from the icons. Any suggestions as to which desktop environment/window managers to go for? |
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| 12:02.53 | DawnLight | Whitman: fluxbox perhaps |
| 12:03.09 | DawnLight | or does it not have desktop icons... |
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| 12:04.06 | Whitman | I don't think it does icons, haven't used it for a while though |
| 12:04.26 | ribasushi | fbdesk is an addon that does icons |
| 12:04.34 | ribasushi | I believe |
| 12:04.47 | ribasushi | have it in a chroot alongside your two apps |
| 12:04.48 | Whitman | yea, just seen that on the fb website |
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| 12:04.52 | ribasushi | and let them click away |
| 12:05.01 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'ardour-gtk' returned no results. |
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| 12:06.32 | jamei | hi, can anyone help me troubleshoot playing a DVD in debian? |
| 12:06.40 | petemc | Whitman: apt-cache searcj kiosk |
| 12:06.48 | petemc | s/j/h/ |
| 12:07.12 | Whitman | petemc, will do, thanks |
| 12:07.14 | jamei | i have installed libdvdcss2, however Totem says that "it does not have the appropriate plugins" |
| 12:07.27 | petemc | theres stuff for kde and gnome |
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| 12:09.55 | themill | jamei: you'll need decss and such things from debian-multimedia.org /msg dpkg dmme |
| 12:10.32 | jamei | themill: thx, i'll check that out |
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| 12:16.05 | codestr0m | I apologize for this random message, but I'm trying to find out logical information to shut this troll(s) up on a non-deb users ml.. bottom line. What's the current version of tomcat available and if the package maintainer is here.. is there any explicit reason for it not being updated to the 6.x series? |
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| 12:19.00 | tralala | codestr0m, packages.debian.org |
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| 12:19.39 | themill | 5.5 seems to be the most recent |
| 12:21.29 | themill | !dbugs 413906 |
| 12:21.33 | dpkg | #413906:W[wnpp] RFP: tomcat6 -- servlet container; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:45:02 UTC |
| 12:22.45 | codestr0m | themill: I'm going to look in a sec, but is there a reference URL for #413906 |
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| 13:10.44 | PetoKraus | okey :) that's great |
| 13:10.47 | Maulkin | Estimated. |
| 13:10.54 | Kreiser | eth01: after restarting the network for the tenth time, it's working now |
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| 13:11.06 | Maulkin | E&OE, YMMV, IANAL. |
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| 13:13.17 | abrotman | Maulkin: RE topic in -devel .. is there an email thread to quote ? |
| 13:13.26 | XTZGZoReX | What is the add user command, again? |
| 13:13.28 | joltcan | Anthro: Apparently use ::portnr after the IP to the smarthost |
| 13:13.30 | abrotman | adduser |
| 13:13.34 | XTZGZoReX | Ok. |
| 13:13.49 | XTZGZoReX | Uh. |
| 13:13.51 | XTZGZoReX | What's the format? |
| 13:13.52 | Anthro | joltcan: Yup, dpkg-reconfigure gave good instructions on exactly that. But thanks. |
| 13:13.57 | XTZGZoReX | Parameters. |
| 13:14.02 | joltcan | Anthro: Goodie |
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| 13:14.18 | joltcan | XTZGZoReX: adduser --help |
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| 13:14.30 | XTZGZoReX | Oh, thanks. :) |
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| 13:14.35 | joltcan | XTZGZoReX: (almost all commands in *nix takes --help or -h as argument) |
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| 13:14.41 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 13:14.45 | XTZGZoReX | Oh. |
| 13:14.48 | XTZGZoReX | :o |
| 13:14.58 | Maulkin | abrotman: see release annoucements sent to d-d-a |
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| 13:15.16 | abrotman | hrm .. i checked yesterday and didn't see it .. /me checks again |
| 13:15.24 | Maulkin | abrotman: sent in the past :) |
| 13:15.43 | abrotman | oh .. that old thing! ... i thought there was new information .. thanks :) |
| 13:15.48 | pdenapo | Hi, I would like to ask a question: how may I tell apt-get/aptitude to keep my own version of a package (compiled by hand from the sources) instead of trying to upgrade it to a version from the Debian archive? |
| 13:16.25 | Anthro | pdenapo: Mark it as hold. |
| 13:16.49 | pdenapo | in /etc/apt/preferences ? |
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| 13:17.07 | XTZGZoReX | Mm. |
| 13:17.08 | XTZGZoReX | addgroup [--gid ID] GROUP |
| 13:17.12 | XTZGZoReX | What exactly does that mean? |
| 13:17.26 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: it adds a group with name GROUP and id ID |
| 13:17.27 | Anthro | pdenapo: Simple, commandline way: echo <packagename> hold | dpkg --set-selections |
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| 13:17.48 | XTZGZoReX | Oh. well, only current group is "root", so should I set the ID to 1 or 2? |
| 13:17.54 | Anthro | pdenapo: There's a way to do it from within aptitude as well, I think, but I don't use aptitude. |
| 13:18.02 | pdenapo | many thanks |
| 13:18.12 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: Debian has many groups by default. I seriously doubt root is the only group. |
| 13:18.21 | XTZGZoReX | Oh. How can I list them then? |
| 13:18.29 | XTZGZoReX | I just typed "groups". |
| 13:18.38 | XTZGZoReX | And it gave me "root", nothing more. |
| 13:18.56 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: cut -d: -f1 /etc/grou |
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| 13:19.06 | ayers | getent group |
| 13:19.08 | phogg | er, /etc/group |
| 13:19.16 | XTZGZoReX | oh.. what |
| 13:19.16 | XTZGZoReX | lol |
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| 13:19.20 | joltcan | XTZGZoReX: Group returns the groups you are in |
| 13:19.20 | XTZGZoReX | loads of groups |
| 13:19.24 | XTZGZoReX | oh |
| 13:19.42 | XTZGZoReX | err |
| 13:19.45 | XTZGZoReX | irc group = for what? |
| 13:22.41 | XTZGZoReX | anything specific, or? |
| 13:22.41 | ayers | getent passwd irc |
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| 13:31.46 | phogg | this has a chilling effect on discourse |
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| 13:31.47 | phogg | this looks like a day for oftc |
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| 13:31.48 | abrotman | XTZGZoReX: getent or cat /etc/group |
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| 13:31.51 | XTZGZoReX | abrotman: Does that show permissions? |
| 13:31.51 | abrotman | uh .. no |
| 13:31.51 | Kreiser | May I ask something not related? |
| 13:31.51 | Kreiser | What's best, Gentoo or Debian? |
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| 13:31.51 | fengor | Kreiser: chocolate of course |
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| 13:31.52 | abrotman | !why debian |
| 13:31.52 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 13:31.58 | felipec | how can I print all the information about an installed package? I'm interested in the category |
| 13:32.05 | Kreiser | !why gentoo |
| 13:32.18 | fengor | stop trolling please Kreiser |
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| 13:33.10 | Kreiser | fengor: I'm just curious, pardon me if I'm bothering... also: how do I launch the !why command? |
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| 13:34.13 | abrotman | Kreiser: the bot doesn't know "why gentoo" .. |
| 13:34.13 | tralala | Kreiser, /msg dpkg help |
| 13:34.16 | Eulex | Kreiser, dpkg's fact database only contains stuff that has been added |
| 13:34.17 | phogg | Kreiser: it's not a generic command, it's an info lookup. 'why debian' is one known bit of info |
| 13:34.20 | Eulex | !gentoo |
| 13:34.20 | dpkg | methinks gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ or ask me about <greenhouse>. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg, or #gentoo @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 13:34.24 | abrotman | Kreiser: you're in #debian .. the bot doesn't care much about gentoo |
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| 13:34.35 | XTZGZoReX | People. |
| 13:34.40 | abrotman | WHERE?! |
| 13:34.42 | \amethyst | Kreiser: you can /msg dpkg listkeys why to get a partial list of commands containing "why" |
| 13:34.44 | kqrl | hey this might be a little off-topic but i'm going to install linux on a laptop, and right now the choice is between fedora and debian... thing is the laptop is pretty old, with a ~750MHz processor and about 384 megs of ram, which distro is fastest? is there any other distro recommended? (i need one quite easy to use, preferably with some equality to yum/apt-get) |
| 13:34.45 | XTZGZoReX | Is there a place with an example of the "adduser" command? |
| 13:34.54 | abrotman | XTZGZoReX: man adduser ? |
| 13:35.07 | XTZGZoReX | Bare with me )P I'm new to this. Thanks. |
| 13:35.09 | XTZGZoReX | =P* |
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| 13:35.30 | abrotman | kqrl: you'll porbably just want to try them both |
| 13:35.34 | tbf | what's the rationale behind installing .la files? they only cause trouble! |
| 13:35.46 | gynterk | does wget downloads a file if it already exists in directory? |
| 13:35.46 | tralala | XTZGZoReX, you can substitute adduser with any other command you're interested in. |
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| 13:36.04 | XTZGZoReX | =o |
| 13:36.06 | Sal | hello |
| 13:36.12 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: if you're that new at this go use a graphical utility to manage users. |
| 13:36.16 | tralala | gynterk, yes |
| 13:36.33 | gynterk | any flags to deny it? |
| 13:36.35 | Sal | i'm running debian.exe on my laptop and i get an error: "Error: resolving hostname" |
| 13:36.38 | gynterk | like no overwritting |
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| 13:36.45 | gynterk | if file exists then don't download again ? |
| 13:36.47 | gynterk | like that |
| 13:36.48 | Eulex | tbf, because they're often needed for building against the library? |
| 13:36.55 | tralala | gynterk, yes, as promptly descirbed in the manual |
| 13:36.58 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: I'm on SSH. |
| 13:37.08 | phogg | kqrl: Debian is always better for numerous reasons. |
| 13:37.12 | kqrl | now another problem... i downloaded the debian xfce-cd and installed, now i don't know, but it seems like at least a few repos is missing |
| 13:37.31 | tbf | Eulex: afaik they never are needed, but get into your way when working on FOSS |
| 13:37.32 | kqrl | i can't seem to install, eg, madwifi |
| 13:37.46 | kqrl | and that one _should_ be in the repos according to another debian user |
| 13:37.53 | tbf | Eulex: what do you believe they are needed for on linux? |
| 13:37.55 | Sal | can someone help please? |
| 13:38.07 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: ssh -X |
| 13:38.09 | abrotman | tbf: why do they get in your way ? |
| 13:38.18 | \amethyst | gynterk: look at the -nc option in man wget. it doesn't typically overwrite |
| 13:38.24 | abrotman | Sal: what is debian.exe ? |
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| 13:38.43 | \amethyst | gynterk: (unless you're doing -r, in which case -nc tells it not to overwrite) |
| 13:38.44 | Penix | kqrl: -tools and -source seem to be in etch. so a default sources.list should be fine |
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| 13:38.55 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: ? What? |
| 13:39.08 | kqrl | Penix: can you explain a little more, please? didn't get all of that ;P |
| 13:39.11 | tbf | abrotman: i have development code from gnome trunk in /opt/gnome and regularly get build failures, cause stupid libtool uses the information from /usr/lib, instead from /opt/gnome/lib |
| 13:39.17 | phogg | abrotman: isnt it that goodbye microsofr debian boostrapper? |
| 13:39.28 | abrotman | phogg: NFC .. never used that |
| 13:39.33 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: forward X over ssh |
| 13:39.42 | abrotman | tbf: seems like the proper thing to do .. but ok |
| 13:39.47 | Eulex | tbf, http://rafb.net/p/ZWkBKi88.html ? |
| 13:39.48 | phogg | abrotman: neither have I, but iirc that was the binary name |
| 13:39.50 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: I don't exactly get what you mean |
| 13:39.56 | Eulex | tbf, are your paths correct? |
| 13:39.56 | Penix | kqrl: madwifi-source and madwifi-tools exists in etch. are you running etch? |
| 13:40.19 | tbf | abrotman: its not the proper thing if you set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and even specified -L |
| 13:40.22 | abrotman | tbf: why not uninstall the other ones ? |
| 13:40.25 | kqrl | Penix: i think so, i downloaded the last |
| 13:40.30 | tbf | abrotman: -L/opt/gnome/lib |
| 13:40.35 | \amethyst | tbf: LD_LIBRARY_PATH does not affect linking |
| 13:40.37 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: ssh -X user@remotehost, then on the remote host open up a GUI user management program. It will display on your local X display. |
| 13:40.50 | felipec | why libpurple0 doesn't have any section? |
| 13:40.54 | tbf | Eulex: the contents of this file seems to be nonsense to me |
| 13:41.16 | gynterk | thanks |
| 13:41.21 | Penix | kqrl: google for debian+madwifi or something similar. madwifi-source and madwifi-tools would be what you want I'm guessing. |
| 13:41.28 | Penix | kqrl: might need non-free enabled... |
| 13:41.33 | tbf | Eulex: i suspect one of the libtool hackers had an oversized ego, when writing that... |
| 13:41.37 | \amethyst | felipec: it shows as section net here |
| 13:41.38 | abrotman | felipec: it does for me |
| 13:41.38 | kqrl | Penix: i think i have enabled non-free |
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| 13:41.51 | kqrl | Penix: i have also downloaded the source, but it's something missing |
| 13:41.52 | Penix | kqrl: then you should be able to install both packages with a default sources.list |
| 13:42.01 | Eulex | tbf, insulting people will not get you anywhere |
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| 13:42.11 | kqrl | Penix: hang on a second, i'll try to post up my sources.list |
| 13:42.25 | phogg | Sal: Did you get the debian.exe from goodbye-microsoft.com ? |
| 13:42.25 | Sal | abortman, its a program that lets you isntalld ebian from windows |
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| 13:42.33 | Penix | kqrl: only if its one line |
| 13:42.49 | Sal | http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
| 13:42.51 | phogg | Sal: That is not officially supported by Debian |
| 13:42.53 | Sal | yes, from there |
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| 13:42.55 | Penix | kqrl: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian/MadWifi btw |
| 13:43.02 | Sal | oh |
| 13:43.16 | abrotman | Sal: you've tried other browsers? |
| 13:43.19 | Sal | ok, listen then.. i have a laptopn conencted wireless to internet |
| 13:43.25 | kqrl | Penix: you take it easy, i won't spam the channel ;) |
| 13:43.27 | Sal | how can i install debian on it? |
| 13:43.28 | Eulex | tbf, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=37338 |
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| 13:43.51 | gynterk | is there a way to take case sensitive file name detection off in wget ? |
| 13:43.58 | kqrl | Penix: http://pastebin.com/mc42fad |
| 13:43.59 | Sal | abrotman, what browsers? i'm not using browsers |
| 13:44.03 | \amethyst | gynterk: what do you mean? |
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| 13:44.20 | phogg | Sal: Using debian.exe wont help there unless your wireless card is supported by Linux. If it is you could just as easily use an official Debian installation disc. |
| 13:44.22 | abrotman | Sal: yeah .. it's pretty obvious i've not used it :) |
| 13:44.26 | gynterk | so like it doesn't read same filenames differend if there are difference in lower/upper case letters (a.k.a currently MYfile and myFILE are different) |
| 13:44.29 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: It's a remote machine so I can't do anything at its end. |
| 13:44.33 | jaggz- | ssh'ing to my new debian system and I get some weird chars |
| 13:44.34 | Penix | kqrl: you haven't got non-free enabled for your normal repo |
| 13:44.37 | jaggz- | is it because it's in UTF-8? |
| 13:44.42 | Penix | kqrl: only security updates |
| 13:44.48 | kqrl | Penix: would that be needed? |
| 13:44.56 | kqrl | Penix: what did you mean by the last? |
| 13:44.58 | Sal | phogg, hmmm, don't think its supported |
| 13:45.02 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: Being remote has nothing to do with it. But whatever, learning the command line way is never a bad idea. |
| 13:45.04 | jaggz- | like, in a compile I get a normal error: error: redefinition of âstruct vsetâ |
| 13:45.07 | tbf | Eulex: thanks for that link. was fighting the with bug databases right now, to find a related bug report |
| 13:45.08 | jaggz- | what are the a-hats? |
| 13:45.08 | Penix | kqrl: if you want to be able to install the madwifi packages from the mirror you've specified |
| 13:45.13 | \amethyst | gynterk: you want wget http://domain.com/MYfile to find myFILE instead? or do you mean for downloads? |
| 13:45.15 | Sal | i had problems installing ubuntu... had to put the windows driver on ubuntu |
| 13:45.25 | Eulex | Sal, what wireless chipset? |
| 13:45.30 | phogg | Sal: you don't have an ethernet port on your laptop? |
| 13:45.32 | Penix | kqrl: look at the security line. it has non-free, your sunet.se one doesn't |
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| 13:45.50 | kqrl | Penix: ah see that now, will try making a change |
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| 13:45.52 | Eulex | Sal, also, if you have so much problems, just install with ethernet plugged in. |
| 13:45.54 | Kreiser | Guys, could anybody gimme a clean official repositorie of SID? I'm having problem with mine (ftp.rediris.es) |
| 13:46.03 | Eulex | !mirrors |
| 13:46.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 13:46.25 | gynterk | if i have a file in my dir called MYfile, and i use -nc to get file called myFILE it still DL-s it |
| 13:46.28 | Sal | phogg, yes, but i don't have a long ethernet cable |
| 13:46.30 | gynterk | since wget is case sensitive |
| 13:46.38 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: Soo.. where could I go for a guide or something similar on this? |
| 13:46.45 | kqrl | Penix: when i add non-free to sunet it seems to generate an error/warning |
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| 13:46.57 | kqrl | Penix: couldn't stat source package [...] |
| 13:46.58 | \amethyst | gynterk: I don't think there's any way to change that, other than downloading to a case-insensitive filesystem |
| 13:47.01 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: on which? |
| 13:47.06 | gynterk | hmm |
| 13:47.08 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: GUI |
| 13:47.09 | gynterk | ok |
| 13:47.15 | Eulex | gynterk, the internet in general is case-sensitive |
| 13:47.23 | Eulex | or well, most protocols |
| 13:47.25 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: or, did you mean that its not possible over pure SSH? |
| 13:47.26 | \amethyst | gynterk: it does have the behaviour you are looking for when downloading to a DOS filesystem |
| 13:47.34 | Kreiser | lol thanks |
| 13:47.39 | Penix | kqrl: what did you do? add non-free to the end of line 6 of that output? |
| 13:47.48 | Penix | kqrl: and apt-get update? |
| 13:47.59 | kqrl | Penix: ah, after update it didn't generate any error, sry ;P |
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| 13:48.10 | kqrl | Penix: but still, when i try to apt-get install madwifi-tools |
| 13:48.14 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: I mean that if you want to use a graphical program you don't have to be local to do it. |
| 13:48.25 | Sal | anyway, whats the easiest linux for a newbie? |
| 13:48.25 | kqrl | Penix: it complains about package madwifi-tools has no installation candidate |
| 13:48.40 | Sal | i heard that ubuntu is good, but some say that mandriva is better |
| 13:48.59 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: Ok, so where can I learn how do use a GUI remotely? |
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| 13:49.05 | Sal | and i also heard that debian isn't that simple as a first linux installation |
| 13:49.11 | psycodad | moshii, enouf & others that helped: i solved my problem: it turned out the raid started only with the sdb as member after a power failure (and booted the kernel from sda which was not synced). Thats why I saw a kernel in uname that wasn't on my disk (basically the raid was just out o sync). thx for tips and help! |
| 13:49.36 | alinux-lb22 | hi all I am using expect to open a telnet connection to UNIX and execute some commands, I wrote a expect script and I am executing it using shell_exec in php it works from command line but when executed on the apache server from the browser it only echos my commands and I checked the telnet server the cilent is not logging in..any ideas ? |
| 13:49.38 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: http://www.cag.lcs.mit.edu/~wentzlaf/faq/ssh_X.html |
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| 13:49.59 | Penix | kqrl: madwifi-tools seems to be in contrib |
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| 13:50.14 | Penix | kqrl: which you'll also need to enable |
| 13:50.23 | kqrl | Penix: i'll just enable that one as well |
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| 13:50.40 | Penix | kqrl: after that, try the module-assistant installation method |
| 13:50.44 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: OK, will read up. Thanks. |
| 13:50.45 | Penix | sounds pretty simple |
| 13:50.55 | kqrl | Penix: which is what? |
| 13:51.12 | Penix | kqrl: in the URL I pasted earlier. also /msg dpkg madwifi install |
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| 13:51.46 | phogg | Sal: Debian is the best. If you find it too intimidating you can try Ubuntu and switch later. I would recommend against fedora, mandrake, suse or any other distribution not using apt and dpkg. |
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| 13:53.13 | Sal | phogg, ok for debian. but then maybe i should download a version that installs from cd |
| 13:53.26 | Sal | and then try to setup the wireless |
| 13:53.35 | phogg | Sal: That's worth a try. |
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| 13:53.48 | Sal | where can i get the cd |
| 13:53.51 | Sal | or dvd |
| 13:53.59 | Sal | is there a torrent that i could download? |
| 13:54.08 | Penix | Sal: debian.org. google.com |
| 13:55.13 | Sal | my wireless is a Broadcom 802.11g |
| 13:55.13 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 13:55.13 | dpkg | Etch 4.0r0 is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now Testing! |
| 13:55.14 | Penix | !tell Sal -about d-i |
| 13:55.18 | Penix | heh |
| 13:55.21 | Sal | are there any drivers for it? |
| 13:55.45 | jelly | drivers for what? |
| 13:56.11 | abrotman | there are .. but not in the netinst |
| 13:56.13 | Penix | Sal: you'd probably need to configure that after installing |
| 13:56.25 | Sal | ok |
| 13:56.33 | abrotman | not on the CDs or DVDs |
| 13:56.36 | \amethyst | !bcm43xx |
| 13:56.37 | dpkg | bcm43xx is a driver for Broadcom's wireless chipsets (http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/) included in kernels since 2.6.17-rc2, "modprobe bcm43xx" in Etch. Firmware required to be loaded before operation, ask me about <bcm43xx-fwcutter>. Replaced with <b43legacy> in kernels 2.6.24 and later. USB devices are not supported. |
| 13:56.54 | Sal | my lap is a amd turion 64. do i have to choose the amd64 dvd? |
| 13:57.16 | Penix | Sal: you can use i386 or amd64 |
| 13:57.32 | jelly | that reminds me... I need to make a custom installer with a load of firmware |
| 13:57.49 | \amethyst | Sal: do you need flash and java plugins for your browser? If so, i386 might be easier to get working |
| 13:58.14 | Sal | ok |
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| 13:58.56 | Kreiser | is kernel 2.6.24 out yet for Debian? |
| 13:59.19 | \amethyst | Kreiser: http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.24 says no |
| 13:59.20 | Penix | it hasn't even been released officially yet |
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| 14:00.01 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: that guide, i did what it said, but it says that "xterm" is an unknown command |
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| 14:00.29 | Eulex | Kreiser, you may compile an rc of it yourself if you need it |
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| 14:01.18 | Notch-1 | hi all |
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| 14:01.41 | Eulex | XTZGZoReX, install xterm? |
| 14:02.21 | XTZGZoReX | Eulex: How? Does Debian have yum or something similar? |
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| 14:02.57 | Eulex | XTZGZoReX, of course it has. |
| 14:02.59 | Eulex | !apt-get |
| 14:02.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, apt-get is "apt-get install synaptic" for gui "apt-get install aptitude" for curses or just use apt-get command line. apt-get is a program part of the apt package used as a simple command line tool to libapt. apt-get is the most used front-end for apt. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ see also <apt> <apt-cache> <synaptic> <aptitude>, or unsoftware |
| 14:03.06 | abrotman | !tell XTZGZoReX about grounding |
| 14:03.12 | abrotman | !tell XTZGZoReX about refcard |
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| 14:03.55 | XTZGZoReX | egh |
| 14:03.56 | XTZGZoReX | eh |
| 14:03.58 | XTZGZoReX | im confused lol |
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| 14:04.46 | ganesh | help me to create a live cum install cd |
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| 14:05.44 | Notch-1 | I have a debian etch installed 5 min ago, i still get "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 500" when i try to mount a ntfs patition, but if i do that manually with umask=022 it works... I'm in plugdev group, off course. And with other fs it works, even automatically... help :D |
| 14:07.17 | XTZGZoReX | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s |
| 14:07.17 | XTZGZoReX | xterm: DISPLAY is not set |
| 14:07.20 | XTZGZoReX | MM, what does that mean? |
| 14:08.08 | Penix | XTZGZoReX: are you running it from within X? |
| 14:08.10 | phogg | the environment variable DISPLAY tells X programs which X display they should connect to |
| 14:09.09 | XTZGZoReX | @Penix: what is "X"? |
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| 14:09.36 | Cobra^^ | XTZGZoReX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System |
| 14:09.42 | Penix | XTZGZoReX: do you have a bunch of pretty, shiny panels and buttons and icons and stuff on your screen? |
| 14:09.51 | Eulex | XTZGZoReX, did you pass the -X command line option to your ssh command? |
| 14:10.14 | Eulex | XTZGZoReX, his accessing the box running debian via ssh |
| 14:10.17 | Eulex | *he's |
| 14:10.26 | XTZGZoReX | Err. |
| 14:10.28 | XTZGZoReX | :S |
| 14:10.57 | Penix | why would you use ssh -X to run an xterm? |
| 14:11.19 | XTZGZoReX | and Penix, no i dont |
| 14:11.20 | Eulex | emh, that last sentence should've been directed at Penix |
| 14:11.51 | themill | Penix: why not... :) -Y ftw |
| 14:11.55 | Eulex | Penix, it's an example in the howto he was referred to |
| 14:12.28 | Penix | sounds like this 'howto' did more harm than good |
| 14:12.37 | Penix | bed time anyways.... |
| 14:12.40 | XTZGZoReX | :x |
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| 14:13.09 | Notch-1 | help pleeeeze :P |
| 14:13.54 | XTZGZoReX | Guys. |
| 14:14.00 | XTZGZoReX | I'm using PuTTY. |
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| 14:14.08 | Sal | omg 3 dvd!!!!! nothing smaller? |
| 14:14.09 | XTZGZoReX | So could you give me any advice on configuring it correctly? |
| 14:14.20 | Sal | it will take me 3 days to download them |
| 14:14.41 | SlayerXP | Sal: use a netinst image. it's about a 130Mb download |
| 14:14.50 | phogg | XTZGZoReX: do you have an X server running on your local machine? |
| 14:15.02 | XTZGZoReX | phogg: I wouldn't brag about that =P |
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| 14:15.10 | phogg | ... |
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| 14:16.04 | Sal | SlayerXP, i can't i'm connected wireless |
| 14:16.20 | themill | !wayttd XTZGZoReX |
| 14:16.20 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, XTZGZoReX? |
| 14:16.30 | SlayerXP | Sal: well, if you were sensible, you bought a properly supported wireless card. |
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| 14:16.47 | Sal | i'm talking about a laptop |
| 14:16.57 | Eulex | Sal, can't you move your laptop to a place in your house where you can connect the laptop wiredly and conduct the installation there? |
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| 14:17.32 | XTZGZoReX | themill: Run xterm |
| 14:17.36 | Sal | Eulex, the lap is conencted wireless with a home pc that has a usb modem |
| 14:17.46 | lexoplex | SlayerXP: BTW, where is a list of those supported cards? |
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| 14:17.50 | themill | XTZGZoReX: but why |
| 14:17.55 | XTZGZoReX | For the GUI |
| 14:17.56 | Eulex | Sal, ad hoc? |
| 14:18.04 | themill | XTZGZoReX: what can you do in an xterm that you can't do in putty? |
| 14:18.14 | Sal | Eulex, whats that? |
| 14:18.19 | SlayerXP | lexoplex: if only someone came up with a way of searching for stuff on the internet |
| 14:18.26 | XTZGZoReX | themill: I don't know, but these guys in here told me to do it. |
| 14:18.28 | SlayerXP | some kind of engine for indexing websites..... |
| 14:18.36 | lexoplex | SlayerXP: :-P |
| 14:18.41 | XTZGZoReX | themill: So I suppose it's a good idea :) |
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| 14:19.01 | Blackshell | can somebody help me with a Simple Bash Script? |
| 14:19.07 | Blackshell | http://pastebin.com/d61c0fa08 |
| 14:19.13 | Blackshell | It doesnt stop when i enter a q |
| 14:19.32 | Eulex | Sal, that the wireless card in the home pc is acting as an access point. anyways, I'd suggest getting a proper router. if possible. getting a proper modem that you connect to via ethernet might also be a priority. |
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| 14:20.02 | Eulex | Sal, but in any case, if you want to install debian with your current situation, you should know that most common software is on the first CD |
| 14:20.07 | themill | XTZGZoReX: what are you actually trying to achieve though? running an xterm isn't a profound step, there must be a reason why you are doing that. |
| 14:20.11 | Sal | ok, so that means no linux for now |
| 14:20.15 | Sal | damn! |
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| 14:20.34 | Sal | everytime i decide to change to linux, i always find something that stops me |
| 14:20.41 | XTZGZoReX | themill: It provides a GUI, no? |
| 14:21.02 | lexoplex | SlayerXP: When I try to google *this*, I get tons of stuff that don't help, so I thought maybe there's an official list somewhere that everybody knows (but me). |
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| 14:21.33 | themill | XTZGZoReX: an xterm is just like your putty window, only it will be drawn by your linux box and sent over the network, rather than being drawn by your windows machine. (Approximately) |
| 14:21.43 | harpal | Blackshell, try to ask on #bash you will get answer |
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| 14:22.15 | mbroeker | can someone paste a public dns server name? |
| 14:22.23 | Eulex | Sal, not really. even the netinst will give you a working base system (but no gui and just the most basic tools). the cd1 (one of them; the gnome, xfce or kde one) will give you a basic gui. you probably won't need more than the first 2-3 cds alternatively the first dvd, if you do not require quite rare tools. the most commonly installed packages are on the first cd, the least are on the last. |
| 14:23.39 | XTZGZoReX | themill: I'd still like to try it out, though. |
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| 14:23.58 | _Krieger_ | what can be the simpliest way to add my own module (to make it build with all stuff) to sources tree that is compiled by ./configure && make? to add rules to Makefile manually looks to be very hard |
| 14:24.30 | XTZGZoReX | themill: So might you want to help me? |
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| 14:24.37 | sep | mbroeker, 217.115.138.24 http://www.tech-faq.com/public-dns-servers.shtml |
| 14:24.38 | themill | XTZGZoReX: ok. You will need to install an X server on your windows machine then. There are free ones available including from cygwin.com. |
| 14:24.45 | XTZGZoReX | Ok. |
| 14:24.45 | mbroeker | sep thx |
| 14:24.48 | XTZGZoReX | I'll check that. |
| 14:25.10 | XTZGZoReX | themill: What should I look for? |
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| 14:26.41 | Sal | eulex... anyway... maybe i just have to realize that linux isn't for me. i don't have all that time to download, install, search drivers, and setup apps. |
| 14:27.15 | Sal | anyway, thanks for your time |
| 14:27.24 | Sal | i think i'll stay with windows |
| 14:27.27 | Sal | bye |
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| 14:27.46 | Eulex | XTZGZoReX, download the installer, let it install a basic cygwin environment but search for and add an xorg server to the list of what it should install. |
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| 14:28.36 | XTZGZoReX | Eulex: Cygwin or CygwinX? |
| 14:29.06 | Eulex | no idea |
| 14:29.46 | XTZGZoReX | Ill try X. |
| 14:29.49 | XTZGZoReX | Seems more promising. |
| 14:29.49 | XTZGZoReX | =P |
| 14:29.50 | Eulex | I always only installed cygwin, but you could read up on what the difference is |
| 14:29.56 | XTZGZoReX | well. |
| 14:30.05 | XTZGZoReX | It says Cygwin X is a port for Microsoft Windows.. like.. what. |
| 14:30.06 | XTZGZoReX | lol |
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| 14:30.43 | joltcan | Yes, it is |
| 14:30.58 | Eulex | oh, seems cygwin/x 'only' is a port of X. cygwin is more. |
| 14:31.07 | Eulex | so, you do only need cygwin/x. |
| 14:31.11 | DustyBin | are there still a lot of bugs to resolve before unstable xen goes into testing ? |
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| 14:32.20 | XTZGZoReX | Eulex. |
| 14:32.23 | XTZGZoReX | During setup. |
| 14:32.29 | Eulex | DustyBin, consult http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ |
| 14:32.29 | XTZGZoReX | Should I pick, just, everything? |
| 14:33.04 | Eulex | I mentioned a few lines up that I've never installed neither used Cygwin/X |
| 14:33.24 | XTZGZoReX | Well, the modules/whatever is probably the same as Cygwin, don't you think? |
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| 14:33.47 | chops | XTZGZoReX: For cygwin, you should _not_ pick everything. Not sure about cygwin/X. The Xorg server is the main thing you need. |
| 14:33.50 | \amethyst | DustyBin: you mean 3.0 I guess? |
| 14:33.52 | themill | it's the same installer |
| 14:34.07 | DustyBin | \amethyst: aye |
| 14:34.07 | XTZGZoReX | chops: OK. Can I change my installation later? |
| 14:34.15 | chops | XTZGZoReX: For cygwin, you can. |
| 14:34.33 | Eulex | XTZGZoReX, just re-run the installer (if it's the same as for cygwin) |
| 14:34.36 | themill | XTZGZoReX: ^^ just choose "X server" or similar in the packages list. (long time since I used it) |
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| 14:34.56 | XTZGZoReX | Okay. |
| 14:34.59 | rootborn | how to make my wireless to work on my laptop? |
| 14:34.59 | \amethyst | DustyBin: xen-unstable is deliberately kept from release (bug #395332) |
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| 14:35.16 | \amethyst | DustyBin: lenny does have 3.1 |
| 14:35.34 | DustyBin | \amethyst: lenny doesnt have any xen kernels ? |
| 14:36.26 | tralala | rootborn, /msg dpkg wireless |
| 14:36.30 | tralala | rootborn, /msg dpkg laptops |
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| 14:36.49 | kqrl | hmm i've installed madwifi on the debian xfce, but it can't recognise any commands like iwlist, iwconfig or such |
| 14:37.14 | aalhamad | when do debian upgrade their gnome Desktop? |
| 14:37.15 | tralala | kqrl, you need wireless-tools |
| 14:37.38 | chops | aalhamad: What release of Debian, and what version of the gnome desktop? |
| 14:37.50 | kqrl | tralala: if that is it, thanks a lot, i'm installing them right now we'll see how it goes |
| 14:37.55 | themill | XTZGZoReX: X11 -> xwinwm should be sufficient. But you should ask the cygwin people on #cygwin or #cygwinx not us. |
| 14:38.08 | kqrl | tralala: thanks :) seems to work better now |
| 14:38.11 | tralala | kqrl, that's it. You're welcome |
| 14:38.52 | XTZGZoReX | themill: Got it. |
| 14:38.55 | aalhamad | chops, well I have the lastest, just download it. The gnome i have is 2.14.3 |
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| 14:39.31 | aalhamad | now its 2.18 |
| 14:39.32 | tralala | aalhamad, stable doesn't get upgrades. You'll have a newer gnome with the next debian release. |
| 14:39.43 | chops | aalhamad: sid has 2.20 |
| 14:39.43 | themill | XTZGZoReX: if you run the cygwin X server (should be an icon in your start menu), then tick the box for "x forwarding" in putty, it should work. |
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| 14:39.57 | chops | !tell aalhamad about releases |
| 14:40.42 | XTZGZoReX | themill: Already ticked that :D. |
| 14:40.56 | XTZGZoReX | Haha, I did something right. =P |
| 14:41.18 | Notch-1 | excuse me, what is system:/ precisely? who create and handle it? |
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| 14:41.41 | tralala | Notch-1, sounds like kde stuff |
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| 14:41.57 | Notch-1 | sure |
| 14:42.25 | XTZGZoReX | themill: Can this X thing transfer files? |
| 14:42.33 | chops | XTZGZoReX: Use scp |
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| 14:43.07 | XTZGZoReX | K. |
| 14:43.16 | tralala | Notch-1, as in kde specific, as in "who knows what they're doing" |
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| 14:43.58 | Notch-1 | ? |
| 14:44.03 | themill | XTZGZoReX: please read the wiki page you were given earlier about X. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System |
| 14:44.18 | tralala | Notch-1, ask #debian-kde or #kde |
| 14:44.25 | Notch-1 | tnx |
| 14:44.29 | tralala | wc |
| 14:45.05 | XTZGZoReX | themill: Roger that. |
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| 14:46.24 | themill | Notch-1: system:/ is a virtual protocol that allows access to different parts of the filesystem in a simpler way. Sort of. It will evolve a fair bit for Kde 4.x, I suspect. It can give easy access to shared resources, remote file storage etc. |
| 14:47.27 | Notch-1 | themill: thanks, do you know how i can i configure it? |
| 14:47.46 | Notch-1 | i need to add some now features... |
| 14:48.00 | Notch-1 | and i don't know where to start... |
| 14:48.03 | chops | Notch-1: You'll have better luck asking in #kde than here, since it's a KDE thing |
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| 14:48.34 | Notch-1 | done, i'm waiting 4 reply :D |
| 14:49.02 | themill | Notch-1: you can probably poke around with either rc files or making directories somewhere in your .kde/ but I don't have the details. |
| 14:49.22 | PeterKraus | heya guys... my suspend to ram used to work quite well, but now, out of some mysterious reason, i can't get it to work - even the option is disabled, also, gnome-power-management doesn't provide me with that option |
| 14:49.29 | Notch-1 | nice, thanks |
| 14:49.38 | PeterKraus | can you tell me what packages should i check for? |
| 14:49.52 | Notch-1 | the problem is that my new features involves hal :D |
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| 14:50.36 | Notch-1 | so i exlect A LOT of throuble |
| 14:50.40 | Notch-1 | expect |
| 14:50.43 | chops | PeterKraus: If you're running sid or (I think...) testing, make sure you've got uswsusp installed |
| 14:51.01 | tralala | PeterKraus, the kind of mysteries you're describing usually are connected to testing/unstable. Does this sound about right? |
| 14:51.07 | PeterKraus | nope |
| 14:51.09 | PeterKraus | etch |
| 14:51.21 | PeterKraus | i just uninstalled some packages by accident |
| 14:51.33 | PeterKraus | removed python-gnome2-desktop |
| 14:51.44 | PeterKraus | and i think, that since then it just doesn't work |
| 14:51.45 | chops | PeterKraus: Reinstall those packages? :-) |
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| 14:51.54 | PeterKraus | i don't know which are these |
| 14:51.58 | chops | PeterKraus: You can look in /var/log/dpkg.log to see exactly what was uninstalled |
| 14:52.09 | tralala | PeterKraus, install uswsusp |
| 14:52.20 | PeterKraus | that's why i am asking which ones i need to install for successful.... okey guys, i'll try it out |
| 14:52.32 | PeterKraus | does the log survive after reboot? |
| 14:52.37 | PeterKraus | or is it deleted? |
| 14:52.43 | tralala | it is not deleted |
| 14:52.53 | PeterKraus | cool. I'll check it when i get home |
| 14:52.57 | PeterKraus | cheers guys, :) |
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| 14:56.22 | Haris | I'm rebuilding the box |
| 14:56.49 | themill | why do I get a chill down my spine hearing this |
| 14:56.58 | chops | tralala: You're right; I didn't realize that uswsusp was used as far back as etch. |
| 14:57.04 | abrotman | themill: because it's windy? |
| 14:57.06 | Haris | A 5GB partition on each of the 2 disks for raid0 on software raid, would that help squid's cause? |
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| 14:59.15 | abrotman | cause? |
| 14:59.28 | Haris | cause=performance |
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| 15:01.35 | lexoplex | I want to buy a new wireless card for my laptop and make sure it's supported by the Etch kernel. I'm not sure where I should start looking. The whole chipset/driver/module stuff confuses me. Can anyone here recommend a brand/model that just works in Etch? |
| 15:01.41 | abrotman | Haris: it might .. you'll have to test it |
| 15:01.50 | Haris | Not very re-assuring |
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| 15:01.54 | abrotman | lexoplex: in the kernel or just drivers available ? |
| 15:01.56 | themill | !puncsmite Haris |
| 15:02.18 | abrotman | Haris: yes .. test it .. how the hell would we know .. it's a reasonable expectation .. but you won't know until you test it |
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| 15:02.33 | Haris | That's what I did yesterday, hehe |
| 15:02.35 | lexoplex | abrotman: In the kernel, I guess (sounds easier...) |
| 15:03.31 | abrotman | lexoplex: it is .. but it really limits your choices |
| 15:03.40 | abrotman | to mostly 11b cards |
| 15:03.53 | lexoplex | abrotman: My current one does work with ndiswrapper, but it's making my laptop crash. That's why I want one that's properly supported. |
| 15:04.03 | abrotman | what is your current one ? |
| 15:04.20 | lexoplex | Netgear/WG511 |
| 15:04.24 | themill | ewww |
| 15:04.24 | abrotman | chipset |
| 15:04.42 | lexoplex | How do I check that? |
| 15:04.47 | salvin | does the command "make-kpkg kernel_image" call the target clean everytimes? |
| 15:04.53 | abrotman | it's madwifi |
| 15:05.10 | abrotman | !madwifi install |
| 15:05.10 | dpkg | it has been said that madwifi-install is ask me about <non-free>, then as root: "apt-get update ; apt-get install module-assistant ; m-a prepare ; m-a a-i madwifi". You should now have madwifi installed. Note: Atheros = ath0, NOT eth0. |
| 15:05.26 | abrotman | unless it has different revisions with different chipsets |
| 15:05.36 | abrotman | is it a v2 ? |
| 15:05.48 | lexoplex | abrotman: Hm, v3.00 I think. |
| 15:06.07 | abrotman | oh ... so it's Marvell ? |
| 15:06.11 | salvin | who use make-kpkg here? |
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| 15:06.20 | abrotman | lots of people.. just ask |
| 15:06.22 | themill | no-one |
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| 15:07.28 | lexoplex | abrotman: The Windows driver is calles WG511v300 |
| 15:07.30 | abrotman | lexoplex: i'd guess the easiest 11g stuff is the intel stuff or the madwifi/atheros stuff .. but neither are in the etch kernel |
| 15:07.34 | XTZGZoReX | What's a good SSH based IRC client? |
| 15:07.44 | abrotman | CLI? |
| 15:07.46 | abrotman | irssi |
| 15:07.47 | salvin | abrotman, read up |
| 15:07.53 | gordonjcp | XTZGZoReX: what do you mean by "SSH based"? |
| 15:07.53 | XTZGZoReX | What's ebtter? |
| 15:07.57 | XTZGZoReX | Well. |
| 15:08.01 | XTZGZoReX | I run it through SSH. |
| 15:08.14 | abrotman | irssi |
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| 15:08.27 | abrotman | salvin: i think it does |
| 15:08.33 | XTZGZoReX | Alright, thanks, abrotman. |
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| 15:09.02 | lexoplex | abrotman: Does madwifi always mean recompile the kernel? |
| 15:09.11 | abrotman | !madwifi install |
| 15:09.12 | dpkg | well, madwifi-install is ask me about <non-free>, then as root: "apt-get update ; apt-get install module-assistant ; m-a prepare ; m-a a-i madwifi". You should now have madwifi installed. Note: Atheros = ath0, NOT eth0. |
| 15:09.19 | abrotman | you don't have to recompile the kernel on etch at all |
| 15:09.22 | salvin | abrotman, isn't it a bug? |
| 15:09.28 | abrotman | salvin: no? |
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| 15:10.20 | salvin | imho it's a bug |
| 15:10.25 | abrotman | lexoplex: i would probably buy the hardware at a place you could return it if you can't make it work |
| 15:10.29 | abrotman | salvin: then file a bug |
| 15:10.52 | thiagomz | !apt-setup |
| 15:10.52 | dpkg | apt-setup was a means of adding a Debian mirror to your APT sources. To install from a cd-rom ask me about <apt-cdrom>. apt-setup is no longer available as a .deb (usable on an installed system) in etch and later since base-config was removed (http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html). <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> can be used instead. |
| 15:11.06 | salvin | ok |
| 15:11.13 | lexoplex | abrotman: Ok, thanks, I got confused by something on the madwifi site. |
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| 15:11.30 | abrotman | lexoplex: those are their instructions .. in debian we have super-spiffy instructions :) |
| 15:11.43 | abrotman | salvin: there's no option? |
| 15:11.48 | abrotman | salvin: or a current bug? |
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| 15:12.51 | Pirate-King | hello |
| 15:13.46 | Pirate-King | how do you add this line-->"<username> ALL=(ALL) ALL " to su |
| 15:13.46 | abrotman | salvin: i don't see anything in the man page to suggest it does call clean each time ... |
| 15:13.46 | Pirate-King | I do visudo |
| 15:13.48 | Pirate-King | can't edit it |
| 15:13.56 | abrotman | Pirate-King: in ubuntu ? |
| 15:14.22 | Pirate-King | nope in debian no desktop environment |
| 15:14.39 | Pirate-King | command line |
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| 15:14.41 | keith4 | how is it possible to have posgres 7.4 and 8.1 coexisting?? |
| 15:14.41 | Plouj | hi |
| 15:14.41 | ``y7 | i want screen installed on my box, and i type apt-get install screen and it doens't work. how would i figure out what screen is called to fetch and install it? |
| 15:14.45 | abrotman | did you run visudo as root ? |
| 15:14.49 | Pirate-King | yeah |
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| 15:14.57 | Plouj | what's the name of the file that specifies what's printed right before the logon prompt on a virtual console? |
| 15:15.01 | abrotman | ``y7: it's called screen |
| 15:15.10 | keith4 | what's that factoid about "doesn't work"? |
| 15:15.11 | abrotman | Plouj: /etc/issue is part of it |
| 15:15.14 | salvin | abrotman, exactly |
| 15:15.17 | Plouj | thanks |
| 15:15.18 | abrotman | !doesn't work |
| 15:15.18 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 15:15.24 | vinc456 | cat /etc/issue |
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| 15:16.20 | themill | Pirate-King: Tarantara! tarantara! |
| 15:16.33 | Pirate-King | what? |
| 15:16.34 | salvin | abrotman, instead it calls clean each time |
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| 15:16.44 | abrotman | salvin: you mean instead of building ? |
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| 15:16.55 | asdzcx | hi |
| 15:16.55 | abrotman | salvin: or in addition to ? |
| 15:17.00 | themill | Pirate-King: oh dear... with a nick like that, you really should know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirates_of_Penzance |
| 15:17.05 | salvin | abrotman, in addition |
| 15:17.17 | asdzcx | how can i 'force' any ftp client to use different network interface than it is using ? |
| 15:17.26 | abrotman | salvin: and this is bad ? |
| 15:17.27 | salvin | it compile everything each time |
| 15:17.33 | abrotman | salvin: and? |
| 15:17.37 | asdzcx | i tried ftp, gftp and ncftp but there's nothing about this in man |
| 15:17.50 | ``y7 | i was't root ;( |
| 15:17.58 | abrotman | doh |
| 15:17.59 | Pirate-King | thanks themill |
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| 15:18.12 | Pirate-King | I came for help |
| 15:18.25 | asdzcx | it is always useing eth0:1 and i want to use eth0 |
| 15:18.28 | Pirate-King | and I get that |
| 15:18.38 | abrotman | isn't <username> (all)=(all) .. roughly the same as just using "su" ? |
| 15:18.44 | abrotman | or whatever the syntax is |
| 15:18.45 | salvin | abrotman, then make is useless? |
| 15:18.52 | Pirate-King | not as a user |
| 15:18.52 | themill | Pirate-King: I know... I just couldn't help it. You said you couldn't edit the sudoers file. What's the error? |
| 15:18.55 | nazgjunk | hi there, I just tried changing my hostname (changed /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts) but now apache gives out a warning while starting about not being able to reliably determine the fqdn |
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| 15:19.11 | nazgjunk | does anyone know how i can fix this? |
| 15:19.12 | Pirate-King | 1 sec going to paste bin |
| 15:19.13 | abrotman | salvin: i'm not sure how it's useless .. but file a bug if you think it is one .. i disagree .. but i'm crazy :) |
| 15:19.29 | XTZGZoReX | How do I search for a folder/file? |
| 15:19.43 | abrotman | !tell XTZGZoReX about grounding |
| 15:19.59 | XTZGZoReX | :x |
| 15:20.10 | themill | !tell XTZGZoReX about man find |
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| 15:20.23 | themill | !tell XTZGZoReX about general cli tutorial |
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| 15:21.11 | asdzcx | how can i 'force' any ftp client to use different network interface than it is using ? |
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| 15:22.32 | neotic | asdzcx: default-route? |
| 15:22.43 | asdzcx | neotic default route is set to eth0 |
| 15:22.51 | opensrcguru | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#servername |
| 15:23.02 | asdzcx | neotic but all FTP clients are connecting through eth0:1 |
| 15:23.21 | asdzcx | and for example nmap is correcltly connecting through eth0 |
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| 15:24.33 | loesh | any known problems with going from etch to testing? |
| 15:25.15 | lunitik | loesh: aptitude and apt-listbugs will let you know |
| 15:25.39 | lunitik | loesh: (install apt-listbugs prior to upgrade... although it sometimes has annoying bugs itself) |
| 15:25.45 | abrotman | loesh: it's testing |
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| 15:25.57 | loesh | ok... |
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| 15:26.13 | abrotman | loesh: but do make sure you use aptitude ... |
| 15:26.21 | asdzcx | neotic any other ideas ? |
| 15:26.27 | themill | !tell loesh about etch->lenny |
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| 15:28.49 | lunitik | loesh: Oh, one thing that keeps annoying me about that upgrade... you'll need to explicitly install libsasl2-2, as it has an extra dep that no dist-upgrades pay attn to |
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| 15:29.51 | lunitik | loesh: Other than that, it's the luck of the draw really... packages might have broken deps due to being upgraded at that moment, sometimes you get lucky... |
| 15:29.51 | vinc456 | !usb |
| 15:29.51 | dpkg | [usb] (Universal Serial Bus) A technology that has replaced the way that some peripheral devices connect to a computer. It is much faster than serial and parallel communications. It is also much more flexible: it will be able to connect to many devices simultaneously. http://www.linux-usb.org, or http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html |
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| 15:30.06 | lunitik | vinc456: /msg the bots |
| 15:30.43 | lunitik | loesh: the libsasl issue has been there for a few months though |
| 15:30.53 | vinc456 | how do i do that? I tried "/msg dpkg !usb" |
| 15:31.03 | lunitik | vinc456: /msg dpkg usb |
| 15:31.39 | lunitik | vinc456: the '!' is just a trigger, lets the bot know it's being called on |
| 15:32.03 | vinc456 | dpkg isn't responding to my message |
| 15:32.06 | loesh | lunitik, ok, thanks.. im trying to gather some information before i try.. i could use a bit newer packages for my desktop than etch provides.. and i dont feel like installing ubuntu.. |
| 15:32.11 | themill | dpkg: test |
| 15:32.11 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 15:32.21 | ``y7 | can i run pop3 and imap? |
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| 15:32.41 | lunitik | ``y7: umm, sure... |
| 15:32.44 | opensrcguru | i can. can u? |
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| 15:32.55 | ``y7 | ok, just making sure :) |
| 15:33.21 | Haris | What's a good choice when needing more IPs on LAN? Use /16, /8 or supernet the /24 netblock? |
| 15:33.50 | vinc456 | themill: is the bot down for private messages or is the error on my part? |
| 15:34.04 | abrotman | vinc456: /msg dpkg foo |
| 15:34.13 | lunitik | vinc456: It's responding to me |
| 15:34.20 | lunitik | vinc456: Maybe it doesn't like you yet? |
| 15:34.31 | vinc456 | hmmm it might be my irc client |
| 15:34.32 | themill | vinc456: nothing wrong with the bot |
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| 15:34.46 | opensrcguru | Haris: all depends on ur needz. |
| 15:34.51 | asdzcx | how can i 'force' any ftp client to use different network interface than it is using ? |
| 15:35.02 | Haris | I want to have peace of mind |
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| 15:35.44 | opensrcguru | asdzcx: set routing up according to destination via interface. |
| 15:35.49 | Haris | I want to allocate 50 IPs / department, so I don't have any headaches of IP conflicts. Especially at the time I add a new box or rebuild one in a dept. |
| 15:35.55 | opensrcguru | Haris: dont we all ;) |
| 15:36.01 | abrotman | Haris: dhcp ? |
| 15:36.09 | lunitik | Haris: For peace of mind, go with regular subnets and stick the whole thing behind some kind of router... |
| 15:36.28 | asdzcx | opensrcguru there's no other solution ? any command line switch ? |
| 15:36.38 | Haris | damnit! |
| 15:36.45 | Haris | 192.168/16 IS private |
| 15:36.45 | asdzcx | opensrcguru many apps have for example '-i' so you can choose interface |
| 15:36.51 | Haris | why am I looking at bigger IP ranges |
| 15:36.54 | asdzcx | opensrcguru no FTP client has this ? |
| 15:37.25 | Haris | lunitik: Everything IS behind a linux box, atm. |
| 15:37.26 | opensrcguru | Haris: not that im aware of. if possible, i'd imagine that would be mentioned in your ftp client docs |
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| 15:38.28 | suppaman | pls oh pls someone gives me the name of a cli ftp client that manages recursive upload |
| 15:38.35 | suppaman | I'm getting crazy |
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| 15:38.41 | kqrl | "couldn't find package pidgin" what source is needed for that one? or is it in the repos? |
| 15:38.43 | opensrcguru | ncftp |
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| 15:39.02 | asdzcx | opensrcguru can you tell me the switch name ? i didn't find it in man |
| 15:39.04 | lunitik | kqrl: It'll be gaim still if you're using etch |
| 15:39.15 | opensrcguru | begging is not necessary |
| 15:39.15 | kqrl | lunitik: aha thanks :) |
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| 15:39.26 | kuribas | I moved my windows 98 partition to a new disc. How can I make it bootable again? |
| 15:39.39 | hoxu | is there any debian howto about what can be done about power saving? |
| 15:39.40 | Haris | suppaman: lftp |
| 15:39.52 | Haris | I wish lftp has some documentation |
| 15:39.55 | Haris | had+ |
| 15:39.55 | lunitik | kuribas: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and point it at the new drive? |
| 15:40.02 | hoxu | suppaman, ncftp or lftp as Haris said |
| 15:40.12 | abrotman | hoxu: there's a website for power saving linux |
| 15:40.35 | abrotman | http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/Ecology-HOWTO/ecology-howto-appendix-a-3.html |
| 15:40.38 | abrotman | that's not it .. but let me find it |
| 15:40.48 | suppaman | thanks I'm getting them |
| 15:40.59 | abrotman | hoxu: http://www.lesswatts.org/ |
| 15:41.00 | suppaman | nc like ncurses ? |
| 15:41.01 | hoxu | abrotman, yeah, now that you mention it, I remember something about a campaign by some company |
| 15:41.01 | Haris | lftp has help, that helps |
| 15:41.13 | hoxu | suppaman, no |
| 15:41.19 | Haris | lftp has this neat mirror -R command, through which I upload complete trees of folders ;) |
| 15:41.30 | kuribas | linux2: It's not possible with lilo? |
| 15:41.39 | hoxu | abrotman, yeah, that's the one |
| 15:41.55 | kuribas | lunitik: It's not possible with lilo? |
| 15:41.59 | hoxu | dpkg, power saving is http://www.lesswatts.org/ http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/Ecology-HOWTO/ecology-howto-appendix-a-3.html |
| 15:41.59 | dpkg | okay, hoxu |
| 15:42.08 | abrotman | more useless factoids! |
| 15:42.13 | hoxu | useless? -_- |
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| 15:42.20 | abrotman | _-_ |
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| 15:42.29 | kuribas | lunitik: I have lilo pointed at it, but I get an error, cannot load from disk. |
| 15:42.30 | hoxu | !comfort abrotman |
| 15:42.30 | dpkg | There, there, abrotman. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 15:42.42 | vinc456 | when i bootn gnome and plug in my usb key the data can be accessed in /media, but when i try a different window manager i can't find the mount |
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| 15:42.49 | gigo | what is the package name for man pages such as strlen(), etc.? |
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| 15:42.57 | hoxu | look abrotman, useless factoids don't kill people, other people do ! |
| 15:42.57 | abrotman | gigo: manpages-dev |
| 15:43.11 | XTZGZoReX | What's a fast way to install PHP? |
| 15:43.14 | abrotman | hoxu: what if you were crushed by the mysql DB that holds them all ? |
| 15:43.25 | lunitik | hoxu: I'm sure the factoids help though! |
| 15:43.28 | abrotman | XTZGZoReX: aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 15:43.31 | lunitik | hoxu: wait, wrong joke |
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| 15:43.39 | vinc456 | any idea what could be going on? |
| 15:43.58 | slaeshjag | UNder the setup, how long time does it usually prepare libc6? |
| 15:44.06 | lunitik | vinc456: The other window manager sucks? |
| 15:44.54 | XTZGZoReX | abrotman: With that said, can I also install an FTPd along with Apache and MySQL? |
| 15:45.05 | XTZGZoReX | lol luntik |
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| 15:45.06 | Eulex | slaeshjag, shouldn't really take very long compared to the other packages. check tty4 (or whichever tty it was) for error messages |
| 15:45.07 | hoxu | abrotman, interesting idea. Let me add a cmd factoid for being crushed by the factoid database... |
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| 15:45.34 | abrotman | XTZGZoReX: have you read any documentation .. at all? |
| 15:45.46 | Eulex | vinc456, a window manager doesn't do automounting, and gnome isn't a window manager either. |
| 15:46.19 | XTZGZoReX | abrotman: I was lost in the Debian site :z |
| 15:46.22 | slaeshjag | Eulex, it seems like it asked a question there ;D |
| 15:46.28 | lunitik | vinc456: Out of curiosity, what is the other window manager? |
| 15:46.35 | vinc456 | Eulex: i see, i'll look into doing it manually then |
| 15:46.41 | Eulex | slaeshjag, oh |
| 15:46.46 | vinc456 | ratpoison |
| 15:46.59 | lexoplex | vinc456: Yay for that :) |
| 15:47.17 | Eulex | vinc456, what is doing it in gnome is gnome-volume-manager. running that is not restricted to gnome; you can run it with any window manager. gnome's window manager is metacity, btw. |
| 15:47.32 | slaeshjag | Damn, missed the text above >.< "answer no to the question below" |
| 15:47.54 | lunitik | vinc456: Yeah, the desktop environment (gnome) has mechanisms to auto-mounting... technically, udev is supposed to handle it, and pmount should let you mount it... but it doesn't always work like that, in which case you have to know the device location in /dev |
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| 15:49.06 | linux2 | anyone know how I can compress all of my hidden folders into a tar.bz2 file? when i do tar -cvjf hidden.tar.bz2 /home/will/.* It just does everything in my home dir. Any ideas> |
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| 15:49.45 | vinc456 | wow gnome-volume-manager is very easy to use |
| 15:49.55 | lunitik | Umm... hal gets its info from udev... udev discovers the device, and lets dbus know... gnome-volume-manager provides pretty little buttons that let you think you know what you're doing, but allows you to do nothing at all |
| 15:49.58 | hoxu | linux2, are you saying "ls ~/.*" lists all the files in ~, not just hidden? |
| 15:50.54 | hoxu | linux2, nevermind, there was a setting for that... |
| 15:51.08 | lunitik | (pmount allows the device to be mounted as a non-root user, and also provides auto-mounting much like autofs or whatever back in the day) |
| 15:51.30 | linux2 | hoxu: well because .. means to go back a dir which it does |
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| 15:52.10 | vinc456 | i simply type gnome-volume-manager and the drive magically appeared in /media :) |
| 15:52.11 | hoxu | linux2, that's wrong, but "ls ~/.*" really does list the normal files as well |
| 15:52.34 | linux2 | yeah |
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| 15:54.47 | HA | Hello, how can I "check" what's my connection setup via shell? (I need to check IP and gateway) |
| 15:54.59 | hoxu | HA, ifconfig or ip |
| 15:55.06 | abrotman | don't laugh at him |
| 15:55.14 | HA | -bash: ip: command not found |
| 15:55.15 | Superbartt | lmao :P |
| 15:55.23 | HA | that's why I'm asking |
| 15:55.32 | hoxu | don't HA me :( |
| 15:55.35 | abrotman | route and ifconfig can be used also |
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| 15:55.45 | HA | ipconfig won't work either |
| 15:55.50 | hoxu | HA, ifconfig, 'f' |
| 15:55.52 | HA | route did |
| 15:56.10 | HA | oh, ok |
| 15:56.14 | hoxu | ipconfig is another typo when copying stuff to the windows world, like '\' etc |
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| 15:56.29 | hoxu | ;) |
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| 15:56.33 | suppaman | bye |
| 15:57.12 | biopyte | hi. weeks ago i installed two desktop boxes with lenny. however, i havent set up any iptables rules, yet. do you think this is problematic? can you recommend a website with basic iptables rules for the desktop? |
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| 15:57.55 | hoxu | linux2, apologies, you were right, and I was wrong |
| 15:58.12 | karrotx_ | i'm getting a "no public key" error for etch-backports |
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| 15:58.17 | linux2 | hoxu: ehh np. It didn't do what I expected either |
| 15:58.17 | karrotx_ | how do i fix this? |
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| 15:58.20 | hoxu | What's the bash setting/command/whatever for expanding '.*' into just hidden files, excluding '.' and '..'? something in shopt? |
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| 15:59.15 | orveldv | linux2: /join #bash |
| 15:59.39 | HA | God, I hate networks. |
| 15:59.51 | abrotman | karrotx_: read the instructions at the website |
| 15:59.56 | HA | I'm using qemu to setup a little winxp instalation inside debian |
| 16:00.02 | RockaBaby | good evening... i have noticed that when i install debian i.e. with business card that my /root directory is set rw -->user r-->group r-->others |
| 16:00.06 | HA | and I need to give it internet access. |
| 16:00.32 | RockaBaby | how come ? |
| 16:00.38 | HA | Oh, btw: Is there a way to actually "copy/move" files between the qemu SO and my actual Debian SO? |
| 16:00.47 | karrotx_ | abrotman: ah, thanks |
| 16:01.17 | HA | I'm using a randomname.img file the Win Drive. |
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| 16:01.56 | HA | No idea? |
| 16:03.07 | nazgjunk | how do i configure my networking in such way that i get a static ip? |
| 16:03.32 | karrotx_ | ..? |
| 16:03.33 | jelly | (how) can I force rsync to use delta-based transmission even for local files? |
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| 16:04.05 | themill | HA: if you're using a qemu "raw" image, then they are mountable as a loopback filesystem on your debian box which lets you do that. If they are qcow or vmdk or other formats, you can't do that. |
| 16:04.14 | Pirate-King | how do you make it so you can copy off a web site and paste in putty |
| 16:04.16 | Pirate-King | ? |
| 16:04.46 | themill | Pirate-King: => #putty |
| 16:04.50 | RockaBaby | !offtopic |
| 16:04.51 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. please join #debian-offtopic |
| 16:04.53 | HA | dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=2000000 count=0 <------ I used that, so I'm guessing I'm done for. |
| 16:04.55 | Pirate-King | ok |
| 16:05.21 | themill | Pirate-King: I think putty allows you to paste by clicking the middle mouse button. |
| 16:05.36 | themill | Pirate-King: But it's a long time since I used it for any more than 2 minutes. |
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| 16:06.47 | jelly | Pirate-King, themill: it's configurable to X-style or right-click paste or something else afair |
| 16:06.52 | hoxu | linux2, export GLOBIGNORE='.:..'; echo .* |
| 16:07.16 | linux2 | hoxu: thanks |
| 16:07.22 | themill | jelly: sounds plausible/familiar/etc :) |
| 16:07.45 | karrotx_ | does apt-get or aptitude have a staging option? i want to edit the new config before i install it |
| 16:08.06 | linux2 | Pirate-King: your nick wouldn't have anything to do with the 1982 pirate movie, would it? |
| 16:08.19 | themill | ooo arrr! |
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| 16:09.31 | Pirate-King | that middle button works |
| 16:09.33 | Pirate-King | nope |
| 16:09.34 | RockaBaby | good evening... why is when i install debian i.e. with business card that my /root directory is set rw -->user r-->group r-->others ? |
| 16:10.03 | Pirate-King | I used to copy steal everything |
| 16:10.06 | HA | Ok, THIS will be a stupid question: but how do I kill the qemu process? =S I'm stuck at my windows emulation and I'm scared of it. =/ |
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| 16:11.02 | linux2 | HA: there are many different ways to do it. just do killall qemu |
| 16:11.13 | HA | great, thanks. |
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| 16:11.27 | linux2 | HA: that is granted the qemu process is called qemu |
| 16:11.32 | linux2 | I wouldn't actually know myself |
| 16:11.36 | themill | HA: Ctrl+Alt to get out of the emulator |
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| 16:12.38 | Pirate-King | how do you make it so you can copy off a web site and paste in putty...middle button doen't work |
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| 16:13.20 | linux2 | Pirate-King: i believe you have to ctrl-c the text you want to copy and then right click in putty to paste |
| 16:13.27 | Eulex | Pirate-King, putty windows right-click by defrault |
| 16:13.31 | linux2 | or something similar to that, haven't used putty in a year |
| 16:13.31 | Eulex | but that can be changed |
| 16:13.33 | soldierboy | It seems that gawk was created for programmers, I am having a tough time understanding it. I just read the massive documentation for gawk and am no closer to doing what I want to do, just more confused. Anyways: I have a text file that lists all of debian's packages; |
| 16:13.49 | soldierboy | it is in the format: packageName description; |
| 16:14.22 | soldierboy | i simply wish to use gawk to remove the description from each line, leaving me just the package name, one per line |
| 16:14.47 | themill | soldierboy: cut -f1 -d\ filename |
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| 16:16.10 | themill | soldierboy: pls keep it in the channel. msg bots not people. |
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| 16:19.10 | grendal_prime | hey guys im having a hard time with flash in konqueror. it appears to be a problem with the latest version. Im trying to downgrade to the previouse version..cant seem to find it though |
| 16:20.21 | techouse | just use iceweasel :D |
| 16:20.28 | grendal_prime | the crashing one is flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.115.0.1 and im trying to get flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.48.0.3 |
| 16:20.41 | themill | grendal_prime: that has known vulns |
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| 16:21.06 | techouse | why don't you just get the flas from macromedia.com and execute the script to install it? |
| 16:21.25 | grendal_prime | ya thats all fine and good accept i have machines that run strictly kde apps |
| 16:21.36 | grendal_prime | techouse: i used the script installer |
| 16:21.59 | techouse | hmm |
| 16:22.00 | grendal_prime | it does download it from adobe and install it |
| 16:22.03 | techouse | no clue |
| 16:22.21 | techouse | no |
| 16:22.23 | techouse | not that |
| 16:22.25 | techouse | wait |
| 16:22.48 | themill | !tell techouse about enter |
| 16:22.54 | grendal_prime | it downloads the same version techouse its a version bug that is know |
| 16:23.14 | techouse | themill: oh..c'mon....i'm not spamming with 3 enters :P |
| 16:23.34 | themill | 5, but who's counting.... |
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| 16:23.46 | techouse | grendal_prime: as here? http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash |
| 16:23.51 | themill | grendal_prime: because the older version has known security holes, you will struggle to find it to download. |
| 16:23.57 | grendal_prime | flash will iwork fine in iceweasel but like i say i have several machines at the office that ..(certain people use) and they dont understand why there are two browsers if i have two installed. |
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| 16:24.15 | techouse | oh...crap: Browser: Firefox, Mozilla, SeaMonkey |
| 16:24.15 | grendal_prime | ya |
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| 16:24.50 | techouse | then just remove konqueror and install dolphin and firefox |
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| 16:24.58 | grendal_prime | well..i guess ill have to just install moz on those machines then...import there shortcuts... |
| 16:25.25 | grendal_prime | what is dolphin by the way? |
| 16:25.35 | techouse | file browser |
| 16:25.36 | grendal_prime | !dpkg dolphin |
| 16:25.41 | themill | !info dolphin |
| 16:25.45 | stopher | Morning. I put in Name Based Virtual Hosts into the sites-enabled file...and getting an Internal Server Error 500 from it. |
| 16:26.12 | stopher | Do I need to enabled anything other than the changes made to sites-enabled and a2ensite? |
| 16:26.15 | themill | !info dolphin etch |
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| 16:26.17 | dpkg | dolphin: (file manager for KDE focusing on usability), section kde, is optional. Version: 0.7.0-1 (etch), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 1120 kB |
| 16:26.20 | techouse | imho it sucks, but if you don't wich to have 2 net beowsers installed, that's a way to fix it |
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| 16:26.39 | grendal_prime | konq replacement? |
| 16:26.51 | grendal_prime | does it work with the kio server? |
| 16:26.53 | techouse | dolphin is a kde copy of nautilus, at least so it appears and i hate nautilus cause it has no targetbar |
| 16:27.19 | techouse | !info kio |
| 16:27.34 | techouse | !google kio |
| 16:27.40 | techouse | :P |
| 16:28.34 | Haris | Ok! |
| 16:28.35 | techouse | grendal_prime: i don't know what kio is, but i can tell you that kubuntu 7.10 (latest) uses dolphin intead of konq. |
| 16:28.36 | Haris | My box is setup |
| 16:28.52 | Haris | I gave squid 5GB of raid0 and the rest to the main hdd on raid1 |
| 16:28.59 | Haris | Let's see how the cache hold's up |
| 16:29.54 | soldierboy | ah, that cut program is sweet |
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| 16:30.17 | grendal_prime | looks like it is just a local file browser. hmmm |
| 16:30.49 | grendal_prime | no web addresses allowed...seperates out the web browser and the filebrowser that way...probably a good idea realy |
| 16:30.50 | themill | soldierboy: :) A good toolkit for these things is: cut, grep, find, xargs and then later sed, awk and perl. |
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| 16:31.51 | soldierboy | themill: yeah, i often forget about the "old tools" that have been around since linux's foundation, however they still prove to be useful, thanks again, later |
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| 16:32.09 | themill | np |
| 16:32.13 | themill | !next |
| 16:32.13 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 16:33.17 | chops | Heh |
| 16:33.37 | chops | He has some still to learn if he thinks Linux's foundation is "old" in Unix terms :-) |
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| 16:35.36 | Haris | Guys! |
| 16:35.41 | Haris | What does this mean? |
| 16:35.43 | Haris | -> Jan 21 11:29:46 localhost mdadm: DeviceDisappeared event detected on md device /dev/md1, component device Wrong-Level |
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| 16:37.13 | Haris | ? |
| 16:37.42 | msan | Haris: I would guess that it means the system couldn't see /dev/md1. Do you have a similar message saying it saw the device ? |
| 16:38.06 | chops | Haris: If I had to guess I would say that one drive of your software RAID array is no longer found for some reason (and therefore can't be added to the array). |
| 16:38.32 | Haris | Nope, only that it disappeared |
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| 16:39.07 | Haris | squid is on md1 |
| 16:39.08 | porkpie | hi guy's is there anyone here who could help me with a pptp server issue |
| 16:39.24 | hoxu | !ask-to-ask |
| 16:39.25 | dpkg | i heard ask-to-ask is Don't ask to ask...just ask. The Ask-To-Ask Protocol v 1.0 wastes more bandwidth than any version of the Ask Protocol |
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| 16:39.48 | porkpie | I have been trying to workout why the inbound vpn connection will not work |
| 16:39.50 | Haris | How, can a hdd go away? The main partition (md0) is is also made up of that disk |
| 16:39.54 | Haris | in raid1 |
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| 16:40.04 | jelly | oh $DEITY why is dpkg -S so SLOW |
| 16:40.11 | Haris | ./dev/md1 4.6G 138M 4.3G 4% /var/spool/squid |
| 16:40.35 | Haris | Is there a way to test a raid partition? |
| 16:40.36 | porkpie | another question is are there any other VPN servers for debian ? |
| 16:40.47 | themill | dpkg: you're slow |
| 16:40.47 | dpkg | No, I'm not slow, I'm just overworked, underpaid, underappreciated and much maligned. Now STOP NAGGING ME!!!! |
| 16:40.54 | themill | jelly: ^^ there you go... |
| 16:41.02 | jelly | themill: wrong dpkg |
| 16:41.10 | themill | I know... |
| 16:41.16 | Haris | That was me, saying that |
| 16:41.17 | Haris | hehe |
| 16:41.28 | jelly | Haris: what do you mean by test? verify the parity? |
| 16:41.43 | themill | jelly: I always use apt-file as that's not slow at all |
| 16:41.48 | Haris | verify if the raid partition md1 is sound |
| 16:41.52 | Haris | and well, to be used |
| 16:42.00 | jelly | themill: apt-file is reverse, innit |
| 16:42.17 | jelly | themill: and :-) for apt-file not being slow |
| 16:42.29 | chops | porkpie: openvpn is by far the best if some other isn't required for compatibility/client-side requirements (IMHO) |
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| 16:42.57 | porkpie | chops:OK .... I will install it |
| 16:43.24 | jelly | Haris: well, take a look at /proc/mdstat if all the used devices are in ok state... eg. if you have a raid1 with two mirrors, you ought to see [UU] |
| 16:43.30 | themill | jelly: apt-file will match both installed and not-installed filenames so it should return a superset of the output as dpkg -S. It's usually good enough. |
| 16:43.47 | porkpie | chops:will it clash with pptp-client I have running at the moment |
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| 16:47.22 | chops | porkpie: You can run both simultaneously; the client software for them is totally different. They won't interfere with each other nor will a client for one work with the other. |
| 16:48.00 | porkpie | chops:all I am looking for is an inbound connection to a server |
| 16:48.30 | chops | porkpie: Are you running the server, or the client? |
| 16:48.31 | porkpie | chops:a vpn client connecting into the openvpn server |
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| 16:48.59 | porkpie | chops:I am running the server |
| 16:49.00 | Haris | Another Q: http://www.pastebin.ca/867364 |
| 16:49.07 | Haris | Why do I get these errors? |
| 16:49.18 | Haris | while running apt-get update; aptitude update |
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| 16:49.35 | chops | porkpie: k |
| 16:49.43 | jaggz- | is efence outdated or am I searching for it wrong? I can't find the package. |
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| 16:49.54 | porkpie | chops:can I do that with openvpn |
| 16:50.05 | chops | porkpie: Yes |
| 16:50.12 | porkpie | cool |
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| 16:50.33 | chops | porkpie: Presumably you're looking for an inbound connection to a server _and_ its associated network... right? |
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| 16:50.58 | themill | Haris: have you run "aptitude update" recently? |
| 16:51.21 | themill | Haris: and please replace "stable" with "etch" in your sources.list |
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| 16:51.32 | Haris | themill: Yep |
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| 16:51.35 | Haris | Ok |
| 16:51.39 | porkpie | chops:the server is a radius server and I need the radius server to be able to see the remote nas |
| 16:52.38 | chops | porkpie: I'm not familiar with Radius servers |
| 16:52.45 | Haris | neat. Its multiplexing the download in aptitude update |
| 16:52.46 | porkpie | chops:currently the radius has a pptp-client connected to a vpn server at the other end but this is causing problems because it will on stay up .... |
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| 16:53.10 | chops | porkpie: Are you controlling the VPN server? Or just connecting to it? |
| 16:53.21 | chops | porkpie: Do you know why it won't stay up? |
| 16:53.30 | porkpie | chops:I am controlling both ends |
| 16:53.51 | chops | porkpie: k |
| 16:54.16 | porkpie | chops:the logs are not showing alot ..... it can stay up for 2-5 days but when it drops it will not come backup on it's own |
| 16:54.23 | chops | porkpie: If you want to make the investment to switch VPN server and client software, openvpn is generally better than pptp. |
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| 16:54.55 | goauld | !java |
| 16:54.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun partially released its Java implementation under the GPL on 2006-11-13. There are other implementations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>. |
| 16:54.59 | chops | porkpie: You could also ask for help here with your pptp problems, though I'm not familiar with pptp and so can't help you :-( |
| 16:55.03 | porkpie | chops:I am willing to swap to openvpn, just need a doc on how to setup |
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| 16:55.09 | chops | porkpie: google |
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| 16:55.35 | msetim | hello |
| 16:55.38 | goauld | damnit |
| 16:55.48 | goauld | im running debian 64bit and i want java |
| 16:56.02 | goauld | still need the stupid chroot thing ? |
| 16:56.03 | msetim | How can I install php5 from apt-get with --enable-pcntl option enabled? |
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| 16:57.41 | goauld | how can i instll java in my icedove im running debian 64bit |
| 16:57.57 | Maulkin | msetim: it's already built in in the cli version |
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| 16:58.14 | bahadunn | java sucks |
| 16:58.18 | goauld | i installed sun-java6bin and sun-java-jre, but doesnt work |
| 16:58.40 | Maulkin | !doesn't work |
| 16:58.40 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
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| 16:58.52 | goauld | i agree with u, but i need charts displayed in my browser in certain web pages whose are writen in java |
| 16:59.36 | goauld | ok, i intalled those packages and when i put "about:plugins" in my browser, java is not showed there |
| 16:59.38 | Thermite | MAKE SURE YOU WATCH THIS VIDEO - YOUR FUTURE DEPENDS ON IT - http://www.stage6.com/user/Udedenkz/video/1863997/Zeitgeist |
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| 17:00.08 | goauld | i mean, djava not displayed present in browser when "about:plugins" |
| 17:00.23 | msetim | Maulkin, okie dokie :) thanks |
| 17:01.39 | Maulkin | goauld: What browser? |
| 17:01.47 | goauld | icedove |
| 17:02.03 | goauld | its based on firefox |
| 17:02.21 | chops | goauld: icedove is an email client |
| 17:02.38 | Maulkin | goauld: do you mean iceweasel? |
| 17:02.40 | Haris | Why would people flood crap on freenode? |
| 17:02.42 | Haris | o_o |
| 17:02.43 | goauld | yes |
| 17:02.45 | goauld | iceweasel |
| 17:02.50 | Maulkin | goauld: /msg dpkg java plugin |
| 17:03.05 | HockeyInJune | Haris, its a good documentary |
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| 17:03.19 | Haris | HockeyInJune: What about |
| 17:03.29 | riganta | HI Guys, |
| 17:03.34 | goauld | yes, i already have sun-java6-plugin installed |
| 17:03.49 | HockeyInJune | Corruption of government, and religion, mostly |
| 17:03.51 | chops | Maulkin: He's on amd64 |
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| 17:03.56 | Maulkin | Oh lovely |
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| 17:04.01 | Haris | hmm.. |
| 17:04.04 | Haris | interesting! |
| 17:04.14 | riganta | how would i qualify my DNS Server with twi NICS in the file db.mydomain.com |
| 17:04.18 | goauld | yes, im amd64 |
| 17:04.22 | Haris | these SCSI drives are slow, or either its my HDD |
| 17:04.34 | Haris | I'm only getting 2184 MB/s |
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| 17:05.17 | HockeyInJune | How do I change the TZ for my whole machine? |
| 17:05.24 | chops | HockeyInJune: tzconfig |
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| 17:05.32 | HockeyInJune | thnx |
| 17:05.34 | riganta | one of the host has one nic and I have no problem qualifying that host but the server has got 2 nics. Do I pick one or put both?? |
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| 17:06.31 | chops | Haris: You're not getting 2184 MB/s reading from the disk, unless disk technology's changed a lot without me noticing |
| 17:07.06 | techouse | how can i view which ports applications are using? |
| 17:07.13 | chops | techouse: netstat |
| 17:07.16 | Haris | oops |
| 17:07.18 | techouse | tnx |
| 17:07.20 | Haris | That's 2184 KB/s |
| 17:08.02 | Haris | On bootup, I see it saying hdd1 is 160 MB/s and hdd2 is 80 MB/s disk |
| 17:08.19 | chops | Haris: What operation is getting 2184 kb/s? |
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| 17:08.36 | chops | Haris: Don't say "reading from the disk" :-). What exactly are you doing? |
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| 17:14.33 | FordCortina | ive just (tried to) install a newer linux kernel on my system. However I get "cannot open root device "sda5" or unkown block (0,0)" whenever I boot the new kernel now. My old kernel works fine. Can anybody guess what the problem is> |
| 17:14.34 | FordCortina | ? |
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| 17:15.47 | SlayerXP | FordCortina: how did you install the kernel? |
| 17:16.00 | FordCortina | SlayerXP: I used make-kpkg |
| 17:16.19 | FordCortina | then obviously dpkg -i |
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| 17:16.58 | FordCortina | specifically fakeroot make-kpkg --revision 10.00.custom kernel_image kernel_headers |
| 17:17.02 | SlayerXP | no idea then, I don't mess around with custom kernels |
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| 17:17.30 | aredhel | FordCortina, did you include the driver for your disk, when you configed the kernel? |
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| 17:17.56 | FordCortina | id did make oldconfig first, pressed enter and closed my eyes |
| 17:18.03 | Nenillo | hi, is there any app to generate load charts? |
| 17:18.15 | FordCortina | the fs driver is there, im not sure about the disk |
| 17:19.13 | aredhel | FordCortina, that is a good way to make it not work. |
| 17:19.26 | FordCortina | heh |
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| 17:19.50 | FordCortina | make oldconfig should just pick up /proc/.config no? |
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| 17:21.24 | wols | FordCortina: no |
| 17:21.47 | aredhel | FordCortina, it uses the .config file from the kernel source. |
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| 17:22.15 | [dive] | hi all. tell me please, why somebody have a perception that sid lenny stable? what truth? |
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| 17:22.22 | FordCortina | aaahhhh! ... not so useful |
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| 17:22.34 | Muisje | hey abrotman :P I totally screwed up RAID :p but after using my brain a little i now understand how |
| 17:22.47 | protoloco | Hello, i have a social network in LatinoAmerica that is growing faster.. so the competition have realized about it.. and is doing some spyware or 'arp Poisoning' and some times.. if somebody goest to Our social network.. it redirect to their social network... what can i do? demand them ? |
| 17:22.52 | Muisje | Got it working again |
| 17:23.20 | The_PHP_Jedi | protoloco, you could sue them if there are laws in place against malware |
| 17:23.25 | wols | !tell [dive] about sid faq |
| 17:23.29 | The_PHP_Jedi | and obviously against disruption of business |
| 17:24.04 | Muisje | i'd sue bill gates for being a rich person that uses windows |
| 17:24.11 | protoloco | The_PHP_Jedi, is it mal ware ? i think is Arp Poisoning |
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| 17:24.23 | The_PHP_Jedi | arp poisoning where? |
| 17:24.30 | The_PHP_Jedi | local network? |
| 17:24.36 | The_PHP_Jedi | (not big on network security, sorry) |
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| 17:24.47 | [dive] | wols: thanx, but I want live means. |
| 17:24.49 | protoloco | mm.. some user lan network. |
| 17:24.52 | protoloco | oh. |
| 17:24.54 | aredhel | FordCortina, and if you use a debian .config file blindly, you may need to make and install a initram disk. |
| 17:25.03 | The_PHP_Jedi | protoloco, that could be considered malware in a sense, and in any case, it's still disrupting your service |
| 17:25.08 | The_PHP_Jedi | so you can sue |
| 17:25.13 | protoloco | it doesnt happen in my area.. but in other states.. does.. |
| 17:25.14 | The_PHP_Jedi | consult a lawyer |
| 17:25.18 | protoloco | oh. |
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| 17:25.25 | psycodad | protoloco: you're not giving near enough detail on the wrong channel. this is neither #law_advice_sa nor ##security |
| 17:25.31 | The_PHP_Jedi | that's true :P |
| 17:25.45 | protoloco | oh sorry |
| 17:25.50 | protoloco | i didnt know where to go :p |
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| 17:26.12 | psycodad | while people might be willing to help/point you, you should be clearer about what your problem is |
| 17:26.20 | FordCortina | oh that might be it.... i totally forgot about the initrd (its been a while since i did this heh) |
| 17:26.26 | psycodad | currently we only have 'my network is sick, whats bad ?' |
| 17:26.32 | epsas_ | protoloco - what country are you in? |
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| 17:26.41 | epsas_ | and who is your competitor? |
| 17:26.47 | protoloco | Mexico |
| 17:27.17 | The_PHP_Jedi | lol |
| 17:27.26 | psycodad | protoloco: so what is your exact problem now ? |
| 17:27.30 | protoloco | epsas_, sonico |
| 17:27.33 | protoloco | sonico.com |
| 17:27.42 | protoloco | even hi5.. sometimes redirects to sonico.com |
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| 17:29.03 | psycodad | protoloco: so you're having dns problems ? |
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| 17:29.17 | protoloco | not our problems.. |
| 17:29.27 | protoloco | DNS poisoning.. or some kind of malware.. |
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| 17:29.43 | psycodad | so you know whats the problem ? |
| 17:29.52 | protoloco | psycodad, not really.. |
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| 17:29.56 | protoloco | im just thinkin- |
| 17:30.01 | protoloco | what could be |
| 17:30.05 | protoloco | or sue them |
| 17:31.20 | psycodad | aha, maybe see your local laywer for this ? I guess (but I might be wrong) we can't sue somebody, somehwere for doing something like maybe arp poisoning, maybe malware, maybe even dns cache poisoning... |
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| 17:31.59 | protoloco | i think is dns cache poisoning |
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| 17:32.27 | protoloco | but if our page is redirecting to our competition ? |
| 17:32.30 | The_PHP_Jedi | protoloco, what's your site? |
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| 17:33.08 | protoloco | query |
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| 17:34.01 | psycodad | protoloco: then you have to find the reason why your page is redirecting there. Maybe cache poisoned on client side, maybe typed wrong url, maybe your web is 0wN3d... |
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| 17:34.58 | protoloco | psycodad, i dont is owned |
| 17:35.06 | protoloco | i dont think is owned |
| 17:35.07 | protoloco | pardon me |
| 17:35.24 | protoloco | ours DNS tables are cool. |
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| 17:35.44 | shamrock | abrotman: could you repost the link you gave yesterday for info on building a debian based router please. I lost my reminder text. |
| 17:35.55 | Inconnu23687 | hello, on my server on which am using debian etch os when i do "nmap localhost" i can see port 700 open , this is displace as "7000/tcp open afs3-fileserver" how can i see which process is opening this port please? or how i can locate it ? |
| 17:36.07 | psycodad | shamrock: are you looking for voyage ? |
| 17:36.29 | The_PHP_Jedi | yeah, all DNS records are fine |
| 17:36.34 | The_PHP_Jedi | I checked |
| 17:36.44 | The_PHP_Jedi | at least on root level |
| 17:37.09 | googlix_ | you can use lsof -i :700 |
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| 17:38.42 | psycodad | googlix_: nice, didnt know, netstat -anp | grep 700 would probably be helpfule too |
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| 17:39.12 | NiCeBoY | hello, on my server on which am using debian etch os when i do "nmap localhost" i can see port 700 open , this is displace as "7000/tcp open afs3-fileserver" how can i see which process is opening this port please? or how i can locate it ? |
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| 17:39.42 | googlix_ | psycodad: yes :D |
| 17:40.05 | netjunkie | NiCeBoY: try "netstat -nlp" |
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| 17:42.52 | lightstep | hello, i have a question about printing |
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| 17:43.24 | themill | !just ask |
| 17:43.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 17:44.27 | lightstep | (sorry, i type slowly) i added a samba printer with the CUPS wizard, and whenever i try to print with it, my windows xp server gets the job and starts waiting indefinitely for the rest of the job |
| 17:44.47 | lightstep | cups reports the page as sent, and doesn't think there is any problem |
| 17:45.04 | lightstep | is this common? is there a way to fix it? |
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| 17:46.39 | SkoalMan | has anyone been able to get kde4 working in debian? |
| 17:46.43 | lightstep | my printer model is hp psc 1315, and i tried both the driver from foomatic-db-hpijs and from linux-printing.org |
| 17:46.46 | wols | !kde4 |
| 17:46.47 | dpkg | i guess kde4 is a new and not-yet-complete version of the KDE desktop. It will not be released with Lenny as it is not expected to be stable within the lenny release cycle. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/01/msg00001.html, or see also http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html but ask about these experimental packages in #debian-kde not in #debian. see <kde4 videos> |
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| 17:52.17 | NiCeBoY | hello, on my server on which am using debian etch os when i do "nmap localhost" i can see port 700 open , this is displace as "7000/tcp open afs3-fileserver" how can i see which process is opening this port please? or how i can locate it ? |
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| 17:52.38 | cahoot | lsof -i ? |
| 17:52.54 | Matty42 | Is anyone using KDE4 in debian right now? |
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| 17:53.54 | porkpie | chops:are you still here |
| 17:53.58 | themill | NiCeBoY: [17:40] <netjunkie> NiCeBoY: try "netstat -nlp" |
| 17:54.07 | FordCortina | turns out it was the lack of an initrd that was stopping my new kernel from booting |
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| 17:54.22 | Matty42 | is anyone using kde4 in debian right now? I just want to make sure its gonna work before i try to install it |
| 17:54.23 | themill | !tell Matty42 about kde4 |
| 17:54.29 | jeffwheeler | What's the most convenient way to setup authentication with NFS? I don't think I want to setup NIS or LDAP on my entire network just for this. |
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| 17:54.43 | FordCortina | which was suprising because there's nothing fancy about my root partition.... |
| 17:54.51 | RegFe | hi.. can someone explain if its possible to install kde4? |
| 17:55.04 | themill | !tell RegFe about kde4 |
| 17:55.36 | EndiaC | im having problems installing KDE4... whats the best way to go about it, compile from scratch? |
| 17:55.50 | themill | !tell EndiaC about kde4 |
| 17:56.08 | lightstep | can anyone tell me something about kde4? |
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| 17:56.15 | themill | geez... do we have bots in here asking about kde4 |
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| 17:56.49 | lightstep | i wondered if you were a bot |
| 17:57.07 | themill | hmmmph |
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| 17:57.26 | elmo40 | tonsofpcs: did you get your secure shell working? |
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| 17:57.55 | chops | porkpie: I've just returned |
| 17:58.34 | porkpie | chops:have you ever setup openvpn |
| 17:58.38 | jeffwheeler | Hmm, regarding my above question (avoiding using NIS or LDAP with NFS), would map_static be the best solution? It's not supported by the kernel-space package, but is by the user-space one. |
| 17:58.46 | chops | porkpie: I have |
| 17:58.57 | jeffwheeler | It seems like a non-ideal solution, but I'm thinking it's what I'll have to do. |
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| 17:59.13 | porkpie | chops:can I pm you |
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| 17:59.47 | AdamY2k | from experience... has anyone been able to get kde4 up and running yet? |
| 17:59.54 | wols | !anyone |
| 17:59.55 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 18:00.04 | chops | porkpie: If you really want to... in general it's better to ask publicly so other people can help |
| 18:00.06 | wols | AdamY2k: please stop |
| 18:00.26 | AdamY2k | stop what? i just want to know if anyones got kde4 running? |
| 18:00.29 | Eulex | AdamY2k, apparently, I doubt the developers would release it if even they couldn't get it to run |
| 18:00.37 | AdamY2k | !anyone kde4 |
| 18:00.40 | twiggz | kde4 looks like a fat ugly bitch anyway. someones started a group on gnome-look called kde 3.5 is better than kde4 .. |
| 18:01.02 | porkpie | chops:I was wondering if you could setup the server for me ..... I can pay you. I am really under pressure to get it done but don't have the time |
| 18:01.06 | wols | AdamY2k: "anyone" questions are simply stupid as dpkg pointed out to you. also kde4 is not in debian and therefore not supported |
| 18:01.09 | AdamY2k | ummm but its in the experimental branch... thats why i ask |
| 18:01.16 | [dive] | does anyone have a problem with kernel, such as "hda: drive not ready for command" with IDE cdrom at notebook? i post some bugreports about this, but bug is in lenny too. |
| 18:01.21 | wols | neithre sid not experimental are supported |
| 18:01.25 | chops | porkpie: Sorry. I've got my day job to do right now :-( |
| 18:01.34 | chops | porkpie: You may be able to find someone else in here though |
| 18:01.41 | AdamY2k | so then why keep an experimental branch..... its like the bastard son that no one likes |
| 18:01.43 | porkpie | OK ... |
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| 18:01.59 | Eulex | AdamY2k, for people to test stuff on their own risk |
| 18:02.00 | wols | cause it has to go into debian somewhere |
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| 18:02.10 | elmo40 | chops: day job? you mean #debian support isnt a full time endeavor? ;) |
| 18:02.14 | wols | and for people who know what they are doing and don't need to ask questions |
| 18:02.15 | porkpie | chops:I am not sure what the ifconfig parameter should be? |
| 18:02.18 | Eulex | AdamY2k, also note that stuff in experimental generally needs stuff in unstable |
| 18:02.28 | AdamY2k | how do i load the experimental branch.... i typed emerge experimental and it didnt work |
| 18:02.37 | themill | AdamY2k: dpkg has already told you several times about kde4. Please read. |
| 18:02.40 | techouse | can anyone tell me why my additional mouse buttons arn't recognised by xev anymore? |
| 18:02.41 | wols | AdamY2k: this is debian. there is no "emerge" |
| 18:02.42 | chops | AdamY2k: Hehe |
| 18:02.48 | themill | ffs |
| 18:02.59 | themill | AdamY2k: are you deliberately trolling? |
| 18:03.03 | AdamY2k | i use debian, but im using portage for my package system.... does that matter? |
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| 18:03.09 | AdamY2k | no im not |
| 18:03.10 | elmo40 | porkpie: what do you need setup? (sorry, just rolled in here) |
| 18:03.12 | Eulex | AdamY2k, I'd advice to learn how debian works before even going near the experimental repos, or even unstable or testing |
| 18:03.19 | wols | AdamY2k: you cannot use debian and use portage at the same time. |
| 18:03.31 | porkpie | elmo40:openvpn |
| 18:03.37 | AdamY2k | wols: well then... how am i doing it now then? |
| 18:03.44 | wols | and if someone hacks it that way, we certainly don't support it |
| 18:03.50 | wols | !tell AdamY2k about kde4 |
| 18:03.59 | Eulex | AdamY2k, you don't |
| 18:04.00 | elmo40 | porkpie: and you cant set that up? |
| 18:04.20 | porkpie | elmo40:not can't just don't have the time |
| 18:04.20 | Matty42 | hey guys.... whats the deal with kde4, does it work yet? |
| 18:04.23 | wols | AdamY2k: if you really use portage, you are not using debian. end of story |
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| 18:04.35 | wols | !tell Matty42 about kde4 |
| 18:04.40 | themill | AdamY2k: If you don't understand how to use the experimental packages and you don't know to read documentation and use google to work out how to do something yourself, then you should not use the experimental packages as you are clearly not experienced enough to use it. |
| 18:04.49 | elmo40 | porkpie: pm me |
| 18:04.56 | chops | porkpie: See 'man openvpn' |
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| 18:05.00 | Eulex | AdamY2k, you could at most be using something that is 'debian-based' but doesn't use the same packaging use. I really fail to see how that could be debian-based, but that's not debian at least. |
| 18:05.04 | chops | porkpie: The ifconfig option is documented there |
| 18:05.09 | themill | wols: AdamY2k == Matty42 == troll. /ignore |
| 18:05.20 | AdamY2k | Eulex: i installed linux using the debian cd... hence its debian |
| 18:05.30 | AdamY2k | but then i installed portage on it, so its still debian |
| 18:05.45 | wols | ´!ops please make AdamY2k troll less |
| 18:05.49 | wols | !ops please make AdamY2k troll less |
| 18:05.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: wols complains about: please make AdamY2k troll less |
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| 18:06.04 | AdamY2k | i dont even know what a troll is |
| 18:06.12 | Eulex | AdamY2k, no. you're mixing distros. sorry, but neither debian nor gentoo will provide support for you. |
| 18:06.41 | AdamY2k | Eulex: the guys at gentoo provide plenty of support.... its you COCKSUCKERS who dont want to help FUCK ALL YAS |
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| 18:06.45 | themill | AdamY2k: so when you "emerge" something, where does it download the source from? |
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| 18:07.07 | themill | Matty42: would you please leave too. Thanks. |
| 18:07.14 | birdhouse | http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576 |
| 18:07.15 | birdhouse | http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576 |
| 18:07.16 | birdhouse | http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576 |
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| 18:07.23 | Matty42 | FreeIphone people! |
| 18:07.26 | Matty42 | freeeeeeiphone |
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| 18:07.29 | Matty42 | woooooo |
| 18:07.31 | lightstep | !tell lightstep about kde4 |
| 18:07.37 | lightstep | !popcon |
| 18:07.37 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff, or the basis for what packages appear on the first few cds/dvds etc (by rank) |
| 18:07.41 | Matty42 | guys, whats the deal with kde4 these days? |
| 18:07.44 | wols | !tell lightstep about selftell |
| 18:07.44 | themill | !ops Matty42 is still trolling |
| 18:07.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: themill complains about: Matty42 is still trolling |
| 18:07.51 | RichiH | klined |
| 18:07.52 | Matty42 | !ops no im not |
| 18:07.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: matty42 complains about: no im not |
| 18:08.07 | Matty42 | !ops im trying to get answers about kde4 but they arnt helping |
| 18:08.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: matty42 complains about: im trying to get answers about kde4 but they arnt helping |
| 18:08.15 | RichiH | Matty42: stop that |
| 18:08.24 | Matty42 | !ops and RichIH is telling me to stop |
| 18:08.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: matty42 complains about: and RichIH is telling me to stop |
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| 18:08.43 | wols | evolution in action |
| 18:08.46 | wols | thanks RichiH |
| 18:08.48 | themill | RichiH: thanks for your help |
| 18:08.50 | RichiH | np |
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| 18:09.14 | themill | wonder how long until he'll be back |
| 18:09.15 | chops | wols, RichiH: I think that was what he was going for, actually |
| 18:09.41 | themill | now he can go and complain about how nasty #d is. |
| 18:10.07 | fengor | how many times was he banned today? |
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| 18:10.54 | themill | By my counting, he's still got at least two nicks in here. |
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| 18:13.15 | jeffwheeler | Hmm, maybe it is best to just setup an NIS server on my small local network; I can't find any other convenient way to run NFS. |
| 18:13.27 | plb | I want to allow a set of users to restart a service (tomcat 5.5) without allowing them to be root. Is selective sudoing the best option? Or is there a better way to do it? |
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| 18:14.16 | zmotok | hello, does anyone here have a problem with (debian's sid) synaptics driver not recognising a laptop's touchpad? and any ideas on why it does that? thanks |
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| 18:14.43 | tsrk_ | Hi, how can I add myself to a group with the command line? |
| 18:14.58 | zmotok | tsrk_: add tsrk_ groupname |
| 18:15.02 | Eulex | adduser user group |
| 18:15.05 | zmotok | adduser* |
| 18:15.09 | opensrcguru | zmotok: ive had issues after reboot (not power off) before, but not so bad as to not respond..... |
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| 18:15.26 | themill | plb: yes, either put them in a unix group or name them individually in sudoers. That's quite a reasonable way of doing it. |
| 18:15.28 | tsrk_ | Doesn't that create a new user though? |
| 18:15.37 | zmotok | opensrcguru: the touchpad works, it's just that in xorg's log, the synaptic drivers says it hasn't found the hardware |
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| 18:15.42 | themill | tsrk_: not when used that way. man adduser |
| 18:15.47 | tsrk_ | k |
| 18:15.51 | Eulex | zmotok, are you pointing it at the right device? |
| 18:16.09 | tsrk_ | Thanks so much, it worked I think |
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| 18:16.10 | zmotok | Eulex: yup, as just about everybody on the net /dev/input/psaux |
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| 18:16.30 | Tsarin | I'm running stable, sources list is simple, 2 lines: http://pastie.caboo.se/141550 - I need to run Postgres8.x which is not in stable |
| 18:16.45 | Tsarin | Can someone help walk me through how to do this? |
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| 18:17.14 | Tsarin | I've tried running non stable things several times but it always seemsto get hosed |
| 18:17.17 | Eulex | zmotok, there's no /dev/input/psaux. there's a /dev/psaux, though. also, cat the device file and touch the touchpad and see if you get lots of crap in your terminal. if so, it's the right device. |
| 18:17.57 | zmotok | Eulex: yes, yes /dev/psaux, i've tried it with /dev/input/mice and mouse0 and tp0, sorry for the mixup |
| 18:17.58 | themill | !tell Tsarin about bpo |
| 18:18.05 | grummund | hi, fsck found errors at boot, i entered root passwd to go to maintenance mode. do i now need to remount / as ro? if so how pls? |
| 18:18.13 | themill | Tsarin: it's on backports.org |
| 18:18.21 | Tsarin | ok |
| 18:18.23 | Tsarin | I'll look there |
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| 18:18.51 | Eulex | zmotok, some touchpads use one of /dev/input/mouse* |
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| 18:20.13 | zmotok | Eulex: i've tried it right now with and chars appear on the console by cat-ing mouse0 and ts0 and mice and psaux, i'll try restarting xorg with mouse0 as the device path, br right back |
| 18:20.13 | opensrcguru | grummund: / is probably already mount ro. just go through the fscking and exit the shell when done..... check the output of `mount` to verify though. if its not already mounted ro, "mount -o remount ro /"....maybe. |
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| 18:20.52 | gigo | till yesterday, I was able to play MP3 files with xine. but today when I play it, I get this error: could not find demux for <filename>. but I am able to play it with vlc. this is the file type:- Audio file with ID3 version 23.0 tag, MP3 encoding Plese Help. |
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| 18:21.28 | grummund | opensrcguru: fsck warns of partition is rw |
| 18:22.39 | opensrcguru | mount -o remount ro / |
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| 18:23.08 | opensrcguru | grummund: that is if other fs's are not already mounted...... |
| 18:23.13 | Tsarin | so will the command "apt-get -t etch-backports install postgresql" take care of all the currently installed postgresql packages I have? |
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| 18:24.02 | gigo | please help me with my MP3 problem |
| 18:24.23 | Tsarin | so now I have a bunch of 7.4 stuff: http://pastie.caboo.se/141550 |
| 18:24.26 | lightstep | !paste |
| 18:24.26 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. |
| 18:25.10 | zmotok | back.. and no, still getting "no synaptics event device found" even though i know the laptop has one and tpconfig says it can see it (found synaptics touchpad, firmware 8.96 multiple-byte mode) |
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| 18:25.32 | gigo | do I have to install any package for that? |
| 18:25.33 | themill | Tsarin: that *should* upgrade you to 8.2.6. Yes. And btw, you should change your sources.list from "stable" to "etch". |
| 18:26.00 | flowolf | I just moved from gentoo to debian sid |
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| 18:26.12 | flowolf | I had a problem with a bugged video driver on gentoo |
| 18:26.13 | flowolf | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201519 |
| 18:26.14 | Tsarin | ok |
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| 18:26.24 | flowolf | and I fixed it using an older driver on gentoo |
| 18:26.36 | flowolf | how can I do the same on debian? |
| 18:26.48 | flowolf | does aptitude support older packages versions? |
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| 18:26.58 | chops | flowolf: snapshot.debian.net |
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| 18:27.23 | flowolf | thank you |
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| 18:28.02 | Tsarin | that explains a lot actually |
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| 18:28.16 | Tsarin | why my whole system started going batshit when etch came out |
| 18:28.22 | themill | eep |
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| 18:28.29 | themill | !tell Tsarin about sarge->etch |
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| 18:29.35 | jbt | how to extend an ext3 FS on debian, this is on top of LVM, can 't find the ext2online tools |
| 18:30.13 | sepski | jbt, was it made with etch's installer ? |
| 18:30.17 | sepski | or did you make it manually ? |
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| 18:31.37 | sepski | jbt, resize2fs is in e2fsprogs |
| 18:31.51 | jbt | sepski, LVM was setup on install but manually partition is what you mean? |
| 18:32.15 | jbt | sepski,thanks I also found in on http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410 |
| 18:32.22 | sepski | jbt, if you made the fs in debians installer (or made it with the resize_inode option) you can grow the ext3 fs while it is mounted |
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| 18:33.24 | jbt | sepski, Oh I see, I not aware of that option on rhel but I can do resize it on the fly starting rhel 4 though |
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| 18:34.52 | flowolf | chops: gentoo's package.mask looks a better way... |
| 18:35.04 | chops | !tell flowolf about apt pinning |
| 18:35.12 | chops | Er |
| 18:35.21 | Tsarin | how do I remove a package listed as "rc" that has no files in it? |
| 18:35.30 | chops | !tell flowolf about pinning |
| 18:35.48 | chops | brb |
| 18:35.49 | gigo | what are the packages that must be present so that xine can play mp3 files? |
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| 18:35.59 | flowolf | thank you |
| 18:36.02 | flowolf | rebooting X |
| 18:36.26 | jetscreamer | rc? |
| 18:36.43 | Tsarin | when I do dpkg -l |
| 18:36.51 | techouse | has anyone here got an mx1000? |
| 18:36.53 | jetscreamer | you could try dpkg --purge <packagename> |
| 18:36.54 | Tsarin | the left most column lists "rc" |
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| 18:37.13 | jetscreamer | or aptitude purge <packagename> is the preferred method |
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| 18:37.27 | jetscreamer | purge, remove... one of the two |
| 18:37.32 | Tsarin | thanks |
| 18:37.35 | jetscreamer | purge takes the conffiles though |
| 18:37.40 | techouse | or apt-get remove [pkgname] --purge |
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| 18:38.16 | _Badmanh | does anyone know how to change a users pw on proftd? |
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| 18:38.46 | ServerSide | !tar |
| 18:38.46 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory", or goes with feathers |
| 18:39.02 | Tsarin | hmm, well for reference moving from 7.4 to 8.2 on postgresql using backports blows away your databases and your user configurations |
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| 18:39.17 | lord_rob | Hi ! I'd like to transfer all my thunderbird emails and account settings from one PC to another. How do I do this ? Any hint ? |
| 18:39.22 | gigo | do I need to install any gstreamer packages to play mp3 with totem, vlc or xine? |
| 18:39.23 | flowolf | uhm, I am not after a stable debian with some unstable packages |
| 18:39.33 | Tsarin | thank god for nightly backups |
| 18:39.36 | flowolf | I want an unstable debian with just few packages a little bit olders |
| 18:39.45 | ServerSide | :list |
| 18:39.47 | Tsarin | really, "thank you GOD" |
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| 18:40.10 | Tsarin | I've seen the light! |
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| 18:40.21 | Tsarin | that being the little LED on the external drive |
| 18:40.24 | jetscreamer | lord_rob: it's under user/.mozilla-thunderbird or so... me i just cp the files. youcan also just cp the files to windows and it will work |
| 18:40.32 | opensrcguru | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.42 | jetscreamer | firefox, thunderbird.... both work. even passwords. |
| 18:40.51 | jetscreamer | now that's convienent |
| 18:40.59 | themill | Tsarin: eww.... if that's the case, that should be well documented. Actually, it's probably a bug... |
| 18:40.59 | jetscreamer | jsut cp the buggers |
| 18:41.02 | lord_rob | nice thanks jetscreamer |
| 18:41.33 | hark | Tsarin: it shouldn't affect the existing 7.4 database, read /usr/share/doc/postgresql-8.2 for notes on upgrading |
| 18:41.35 | lord_rob | I'll scp the folder then |
| 18:42.22 | jetscreamer | yeah there's .mozilla and .mozilla-thunderbird |
| 18:42.33 | FordCortina | does debian have doc packages for opengl? |
| 18:42.38 | jetscreamer | iceweasel is under the .mozilla |
| 18:42.51 | jetscreamer | (ice/ff same, cp w0rks) |
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| 18:42.54 | FordCortina | if so what are they called? can't seem to find anything.... |
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| 18:43.20 | jetscreamer | mesa maybe is the word you want FordCortina ... not positive |
| 18:43.54 | _Badmanh | does anyone know how to change a users pw on proftd? |
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| 18:44.27 | fengor | for regular shell users just change their normal login passwd |
| 18:44.31 | Tsarin | maybe it is just looking in a different place |
| 18:44.34 | Tsarin | working on it |
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| 18:44.46 | Tsarin | nothing was that important on this machine |
| 18:44.46 | _Badmanh | fengor, i did says incorrect pw |
| 18:45.07 | FordCortina | jetscreamer: thanks im looking it, up not sure its quite what i wanted tho |
| 18:45.12 | fengor | what says the log? what authentication mechanism do you have configured? |
| 18:45.17 | HardDisk_WP | how do I forward X11 connections via ssh? |
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| 18:46.38 | jetscreamer | i know mesa supplies the opengl for xorg |
| 18:46.48 | jetscreamer | unless it's nvidia :) |
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| 18:47.35 | flowolf | HardDisk_WP: ssh -Y/-X |
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| 18:48.23 | HardDisk_WP | flowolf, doesnt this need some extra stuff in the sshd config? |
| 18:48.44 | flowolf | check the manual |
| 18:49.09 | themill | HardDisk_WP: you need to have 2 |
| 18:49.20 | themill | erm .... "X11Forwarding yes" |
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| 18:50.10 | jeffwheeler | Hmm; is there any way to quickly disale iptables to see if it's really blocking something I think it may be? Alternatively, are there any convenient logs I can watch? |
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| 18:50.52 | _Badmanh | fengor, there is no log |
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| 18:50.55 | FordCortina | jetscreamer: ive found the docs i wanted on the web finally |
| 18:50.56 | wols | jeffwheeler: flush |
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| 18:51.27 | fengor | _Badmanh: then comeback when you configured your proftpd correctly |
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| 18:51.48 | EnterUserName | hello. I need help building a debian package. I am currently using grep in one of my uninstallation scripts to check something and its erroring out with error level 1 because it cant find it |
| 18:51.53 | fengor | my crystal ball is kinda cloudy today |
| 18:51.53 | jeffwheeler | wols: that won't permenantly screw anything up, will it? |
| 18:51.59 | EnterUserName | because of this the whole package errors out and wont uninstall |
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| 18:52.22 | chops | EnterUserName: "Can't find it"? What do you mean by that? |
| 18:52.23 | EnterUserName | how cna i tell the debian package to successfully uninstall even if grep error level is 1? |
| 18:52.26 | _Badmanh | fengor, i should be in /etc/proftd right? |
| 18:52.29 | _Badmanh | *it |
| 18:52.37 | chops | EnterUserName: "|| true" is one standard way |
| 18:52.42 | EnterUserName | Ok. I do an egrep -v "string to check" |
| 18:52.46 | EnterUserName | ahh thank you chops |
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| 18:53.21 | fengor | _Badmanh: /etc is for config logs go under /var/log normally |
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| 18:53.37 | wols | jeffwheeler: you need to reaload your iptables of course to make it work again |
| 18:53.52 | jeffwheeler | wols: okay; hmm, I'll try it out; thanks |
| 18:54.20 | wols | don't try it. read the docs about it first |
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| 18:55.26 | kantor | is there a program with witch I can add or change fat32 file system labels ? |
| 18:55.43 | jetscreamer | does label work on vfat? |
| 18:55.55 | jetscreamer | vfat==fat32 |
| 18:55.57 | jetscreamer | well mostly |
| 18:56.31 | _Badmanh | how do i give a user perms to execute? |
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| 18:56.57 | fengor | man chmod |
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| 18:58.04 | fengor | ok have to go now. sorry if i have been a bit rude in the beginning _Badmanh but i hope you will solve your problem |
| 18:58.07 | fengor | later all |
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| 18:59.02 | jetscreamer | err mlabel |
| 18:59.14 | jetscreamer | !info mlabel |
| 18:59.30 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 18:59.36 | jetscreamer | !find mlabel |
| 18:59.43 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mlabel' (6 of 11): (/usr/bin/mlabel) in otherosfs/mtools ;; (/usr/bin/ppmlabel) in graphics/netpbm ;; (/usr/sbin/amlabel) in utils/amanda-server ;; (/usr/sbin/amlabel-cdrw) in utils/cdrw-taper ;; (/usr/include/facturalux/mlabelobject.h) in devel/facturalux-dev ;; (/usr/lib/xen-3.1-1/lib/python/xen/xm/rmlabel.py) in misc/xen-utils-3.1-1. |
| 19:00.41 | g0rAngA | I have an ext3fs on a raid5 array, accessible on my local network via a samba share. when I copy large files to it, it maxes out the cpu. the 2 main cpu hogs are md0_raid5 and pdflush. this has only started to happen recently. anyone have any idea what's up? |
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| 19:01.21 | EnterUserName | thank you very much chops |
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| 19:01.31 | EnterUserName | thats a good solution. never thought of using that. |
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| 19:02.24 | chops | EnterUserName: np |
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| 19:03.34 | slaeshjag | Anyone here with proftpd knowlage? |
| 19:03.42 | _Badmanh | i need help with it too |
| 19:03.52 | _Badmanh | i cant change a users password.. |
| 19:04.04 | slaeshjag | Do that with passwd? |
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| 19:04.27 | _Badmanh | even though the password is the same as the shell, it wont login |
| 19:04.33 | chops | _Badmanh: Depending on how you have the auth set up, you may be able to do it by modifying the appropriate passwd file with htpasswd |
| 19:04.42 | opensrcguru | slaeshjag: are the pw's local or in a db somewhere like ldap/nic/etc/...? |
| 19:04.42 | \amethyst | _Badmanh: password is same as the shell? |
| 19:04.52 | \amethyst | _Badmanh: oh, sorry, misunderstood |
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| 19:05.01 | chops | _Badmanh: You can pastebin your config and the exact error if you need more exact information |
| 19:05.14 | _Badmanh | uh |
| 19:05.17 | _Badmanh | holdon then |
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| 19:06.17 | slaeshjag | I think I got the same problem... Some users get in and some don't. |
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| 19:09.44 | slaeshjag | Hmm... The logs suggest I've got a permission problem... |
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| 19:15.58 | slaeshjag | Ok, I've got BIG permission problems |
| 19:16.09 | eth01 | !ask |
| 19:16.09 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 19:16.45 | jetscreamer | !enter |
| 19:16.45 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 19:17.30 | eth01 | you do realise that you just made your extremely annoying pet-hate worse? |
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| 19:17.45 | eth01 | so much for being a freenode catalyst, heh. |
| 19:18.16 | eth01 | and that's directed at this idiotic freenode user, jetscreamer. |
| 19:18.56 | slaeshjag | I'm running Debian etch 4.0r2, and I think why i screwed it up. I've put all users in /home and given www-data permission to /home, but now I'm unable to give the users permission to thier own home folders. When i run chown user:usersgroup /home/user -Rv, everything is fine. But bash and everything else are not allowed to access the files when the users log on. Anyone have a clue of what migth be the problem? |
| 19:19.23 | jetscreamer | i love you too |
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| 19:19.31 | jetscreamer | !lart eth01 |
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| 19:20.15 | eth01 | can't you do any better than that? |
| 19:20.16 | eth01 | ;) |
| 19:20.20 | jetscreamer | why bother |
| 19:20.35 | eth01 | then don't start your childish crap with me sunshine. |
| 19:20.44 | jetscreamer | -_- |
| 19:21.10 | jetscreamer | btw the enter factoid was intended to compliment your !ask |
| 19:21.26 | eth01 | jetscreamer, I really couldn't care what your justifications are. |
| 19:21.34 | jetscreamer | ok and your point is... |
| 19:21.47 | themill | eth01, jetscreamer: we're bored now |
| 19:21.49 | eth01 | * Added jetscreamer*!*@* to ignore list |
| 19:21.53 | jetscreamer | yay |
| 19:22.12 | psycodad | slaeshjag: and what are your permissions and user:group on home right now ? and the individual home dirs ? |
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| 19:22.21 | jetscreamer | dpkg say jetscreamer covers ears and hides in corner |
| 19:22.21 | dpkg | jetscreamer covers ears and hides in corner |
| 19:22.33 | jetscreamer | dpkg say :p |
| 19:22.33 | dpkg | :p |
| 19:22.55 | Eulex | should I say !botabuse? |
| 19:23.05 | themill | !botspank |
| 19:23.06 | dpkg | oi, stop that |
| 19:23.20 | jeffwheeler | I think _that_ is bot abuse. |
| 19:23.26 | jetscreamer | kinky |
| 19:23.34 | eth01 | i think you people need to move on. |
| 19:23.40 | bahadunn | its not like it is illegal to abuse the bot |
| 19:23.46 | jetscreamer | someone tell him we did |
| 19:23.55 | bahadunn | it is not as if the police will hunt you down for that |
| 19:24.01 | jetscreamer | if you do it enough you can have your bot access removed |
| 19:24.09 | eth01 | too many people like you, take IRC seriously, and that is why, IRC has such a bad name. |
| 19:24.09 | bahadunn | oh no |
| 19:24.14 | bahadunn | not my bot access |
| 19:24.19 | bahadunn | please not that |
| 19:24.20 | jetscreamer | and you could get banned from here if it was bad enough |
| 19:24.21 | jeffwheeler | Actually, that would suck. |
| 19:24.32 | bahadunn | oh no |
| 19:24.33 | jetscreamer | that's like banned from google |
| 19:24.35 | bahadunn | banned? |
| 19:24.41 | bahadunn | I am so scared now |
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| 19:25.03 | bahadunn | themill: its too late for that |
| 19:25.08 | john_scrotum | Mark J. Freiman, Commission Lead Counsel |
| 19:25.08 | jetscreamer | you should also watch out for the 'moving up in the human sacrifice list' deterrent |
| 19:25.11 | eth01 | themill, don't start |
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| 19:25.38 | themill | !tell jaime123 about root |
| 19:25.39 | bahadunn | maybe another #d channel should be started that would be like the old days of this channel |
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| 19:25.42 | jetscreamer | !tell jaime123 -..nm |
| 19:25.42 | bahadunn | that would be cool |
| 19:25.50 | john_scrotum | Commission of inquiry into the investigation of Air India flight 182 |
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| 19:26.14 | rootborn | what shoud I do to make my wireless work? |
| 19:26.17 | simonrvn | someone +q john_scrotum please |
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| 19:27.02 | ServerSide | !ipw3945 |
| 19:27.02 | dpkg | If you're running a recent version of Debian (etch or greater), do the following: add <contrib> and <non-free> entries in your sources.list, "aptitude update && aptitude install ipw3945-modules-$(uname -r) firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d && modprobe ipw3945". |
| 19:27.11 | wols | rootborn: reading http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc is a great start |
| 19:27.14 | john_scrotum | Martin Rudner, Carleton University |
| 19:27.21 | alvarezp | rootborn, it depends onwhat the problem is and how your wireless devices are configured. |
| 19:27.21 | eth01 | themill, just because the ident of jamie123 is root, doesn't mean that he's IRC'ing in root? ;) |
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| 19:27.26 | rootborn | wols, thanx |
| 19:27.35 | eth01 | I've often used that ident, innocently. |
| 19:28.18 | jeffwheeler | Ugh, I give up. Sharing AFP from Debian to OS X 10.5 is impossible. |
| 19:28.24 | jeffwheeler | (same goes for NFS) |
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| 19:28.47 | rootborn | alvarezp, I don't know I tried with madwifi but it din't work |
| 19:28.54 | john_scrotum | jeffwheeler: Netatalk and NFS are easy! Easiest thing ever! |
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| 19:29.25 | john_scrotum | jeffwheeler: Don't give up! You'll figure it out! Read the man pages... then google! |
| 19:29.29 | rootborn | althaser, I don't know how to see if it work or not, the thing is that my wireless its seen like eth1 wich is wirred |
| 19:30.03 | jeffwheeler | john_scrotum: I'd think so, but 10.5 doesn't even see the computer; get error 1069 ("server doesn't exist") consistently, and haven't ever gotten past that. |
| 19:30.13 | jeffwheeler | john_scrotum: and with NFS, it just hangs, searching |
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| 19:30.49 | jeffwheeler | I have to assume it's something about firewalls or some such thing -- it feels like 10.5 doesn't even go look for the server, and just responds instantly. |
| 19:31.09 | _Badmanh | how do i make a user able to execute any command ? |
| 19:31.18 | _Badmanh | cause im erroring when trying to compile |
| 19:31.18 | psycodad | jeffwheeler: afaik leopard has some sort of nasty but useless firewall turned on by default |
| 19:31.23 | jetscreamer | add them to sudoers |
| 19:32.14 | jetscreamer | jeffwheeler: i always had the best luck getting nfs et al to work w/o a firewall, then set up the fw... course you would want that to be local net |
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| 19:32.50 | _Badmanh | jetscreamer, i dont want them as root |
| 19:33.04 | _Badmanh | the thing i need to run needs them on a non root accnt |
| 19:33.04 | jetscreamer | man sudoers |
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| 19:33.27 | jeffwheeler | psycodad and jetscreamer: yeah, I'm trying to do that; 10.5 has "Allow all incoming connections" (and I see no option to turn it off further), and I just flushed the iptables on the Debian machine; still not trusting that it's going and looking for the server |
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| 19:33.52 | jetscreamer | but you could, but would you want to, chmod +s whatever |
| 19:33.53 | Phlo | how could I find files that have corrupted chars due to change to utf8 system? |
| 19:33.56 | chops | jeffwheeler: Packet sniffing one end or the other may help you here |
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| 19:34.22 | rootborn | can some one help me please with my wireless ? |
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| 19:34.45 | psycodad | jeffwheeler: if you're behind some nat router, i'd recommend to disable both firewalls completely and as jetscreamer said then reenabling *after* it worked once |
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| 19:35.09 | alvarezp | rootborn, you are not providing any info. People here don't know anything about your problem yet. Thus, we have absolutely no idea where to start from. |
| 19:35.27 | jetscreamer | !tell rootborn -about ask |
| 19:35.33 | jetscreamer | err |
| 19:35.39 | jetscreamer | maybe smartquestions |
| 19:35.40 | jeffwheeler | psycodad: is there any way to completely disable iptables? I asked earlier, and was told to just flush the rules. |
| 19:36.27 | themill | eth01: but 99 times out of 100, an ident of root means a login name of root. If your ident is root, I don't think you have voice in #d either. At least, I think that used to be the case. |
| 19:36.32 | rootborn | I have a problem with my wireless it's seen as eth1 |
| 19:36.53 | psycodad | jeffwheeler: i don't use them in any debian hosts, but i guess there should be a way to disable iptables completely. |
| 19:36.56 | jetscreamer | do you need it to be seen as anything else? does it matter? |
| 19:37.02 | rootborn | and I don't know how to make my wireless card to be seen |
| 19:37.29 | simonrvn | themill: still is, /bans |
| 19:37.39 | EmleyMoor | rootborn: What kind is it? |
| 19:37.43 | jetscreamer | you probably want something like gnome-network-manager or so... a nice easy gui |
| 19:37.52 | jetscreamer | not sure dude :/ |
| 19:37.55 | alvarezp | rootborn, brand/model, security scheme... |
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| 19:38.27 | rootborn | EmleyMoor, I have it work fine but I reinstall my sistem and I forget how I did it last time |
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| 19:38.47 | EmleyMoor | Yes, but what exactly is it? |
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| 19:39.07 | rootborn | its in to my laptop |
| 19:39.07 | Cosmo` | sorry guys, really brief and easy question, is amd64 the correct arch for EMT64 supporting Intel CPU's ? |
| 19:39.27 | simonrvn | !amd64 |
| 19:39.27 | dpkg | hmm... amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. It also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64. For flash on amd64, ask me about <nspluginwrapper> |
| 19:39.42 | Cosmo` | thanks, i missed that |
| 19:39.50 | simonrvn | !ia64 |
| 19:39.51 | dpkg | it has been said that ia64 is (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. see http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's amd64 |
| 19:39.59 | Eulex | I believe the following is a more relevant factoid: |
| 19:39.59 | alvarezp | rootborn, different laptops have differente cards. Try "lspci" and identify yours. |
| 19:40.01 | Eulex | !emt64 |
| 19:40.01 | dpkg | em64t is, like, Intel's clone of AMD Athlon64/Opteron architecture - provides 64-bit extensions to i386 architecture. Use AMD64 Debian (/msg dpkg amd64), or Sarge with a -em64t-p4 kernel. Found only on Nocona and Irwindale Xeons, or the latest Extreme Edition Pentiums |
| 19:40.09 | simonrvn | ^^^ |
| 19:40.09 | simonrvn | (sorry for bot spam) |
| 19:40.15 | Cosmo` | great, so i'll use AMD64 for my Nocona based Xeons |
| 19:40.29 | themill | rootborn: can you pastebin the output of lspci -n |
| 19:40.38 | Eulex | that factoid is out of date, though |
| 19:40.48 | rootborn | 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) |
| 19:40.51 | EmleyMoor | rootborn: No, WHAT is it? What brand/chipset |
| 19:40.51 | _Badmanh | argh |
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| 19:41.05 | EmleyMoor | Ah... |
| 19:41.09 | _Badmanh | i need to make a user able to compile without root. |
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| 19:41.19 | Eulex | it's also found on core 2-based's and iirc some, but not all core-based |
| 19:41.22 | jeffwheeler | ah, wow; is there any way to do a TCP dump on a machine connected via SSH, without getting an infinitely increasingly amount of data being sent, regarding the SSH traffic? |
| 19:41.23 | EmleyMoor | I am not sure - I think there may be modules to support that readily available |
| 19:41.48 | rootborn | my wireless is seen as eth1 |
| 19:42.07 | psycodad | jeffwheeler: and not port ssh ? |
| 19:42.18 | rootborn | i had a look in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:42.19 | alvarezp | rootborn, eth1 is not necesarily wrong. |
| 19:42.22 | Eulex | jeffwheeler, make it ignore port 22? |
| 19:42.31 | alvarezp | rootborn, try "iwconfig" and see if it includes wireless extensions. |
| 19:42.34 | rootborn | last time whas someting else |
| 19:42.38 | jeffwheeler | Eulex: that'd do the trick; I'll check the man |
| 19:42.41 | simonrvn | _Badmanh: you don't compile stuff as root anyway. what's the problem? |
| 19:42.42 | chops | jeffwheeler: Redirect to an output file, or filter out port 22 |
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| 19:43.23 | rootborn | http://pastebin.com/m49e1d32f |
| 19:43.31 | Aiden|Asleep | help?? --> http://pastebin.com/m7edc0746 <---- came up during an apt-get install of eggdrop |
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| 19:43.41 | Aiden|Asleep | via webmin I think |
| 19:43.48 | alvarezp | rootborn, iwlist eth1 scan |
| 19:43.50 | jetscreamer | webmin? |
| 19:43.58 | jetscreamer | !webmin |
| 19:43.58 | dpkg | from memory, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 19:43.59 | rootborn | that power thing is off |
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| 19:44.04 | PetoKraus | hello guys, i was here in the afternoon, regarding that weird suspend-to-ram problem... i have usrswp and acpi and acpi-utils installed |
| 19:44.12 | rootborn | shoudn't it be on? |
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| 19:44.27 | PetoKraus | though, for some unknown reason, suspend ceased to work, or even be available as an option |
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| 19:44.44 | psycodad | jeffwheeler: i told you: and not port ssh, or if you like tcpdump hostA and hostB and not port ssh |
| 19:44.50 | Aiden|Asleep | if he downloads the deb file it's dkpk -install Package right? |
| 19:44.52 | bjwebb | is the sid repo borked, or is it just me |
| 19:45.00 | jetscreamer | just you |
| 19:45.03 | Aiden|Asleep | oops |
| 19:45.13 | jetscreamer | i did an update a few hours ago worked fine |
| 19:45.17 | Aiden|Asleep | dpkg -install package |
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| 19:45.20 | jetscreamer | dpkg -i |
| 19:45.23 | Aiden|Asleep | right? |
| 19:45.25 | jetscreamer | or --install |
| 19:45.26 | Aiden|Asleep | thanks |
| 19:45.28 | jetscreamer | iirc |
| 19:45.30 | alvarezp | rootborn, no, that's just power management (as in energy saving) |
| 19:45.36 | jetscreamer | try apt-get -f install Aiden|Asleep |
| 19:45.40 | alvarezp | rootborn, try "iwlist eth1 scan". |
| 19:45.49 | DawnLight | _Badmanh: use fakeroot. don't make any user able to execute any command! |
| 19:45.53 | DawnLight | whats wrong with you |
| 19:45.55 | jetscreamer | but looks like the webmin is borked |
| 19:45.56 | jeffwheeler | psycodad: oh, I'm sorry; didn't realize you meant those were arguments; I thought you were just speaking English |
| 19:45.56 | alvarezp | rootborn, and look for your network there. |
| 19:46.08 | jeffwheeler | psycodad: that works great; thanks |
| 19:46.17 | psycodad | jeffwheeler: nah, i know my english sucks big time, but its not as bad as that ;) |
| 19:46.25 | bjwebb | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 19:46.25 | bjwebb | E: Error occurred while processing zsh (NewVersion1) |
| 19:46.25 | bjwebb | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 19:46.28 | bjwebb | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 19:46.30 | bjwebb | E: Couldn't rebuild package cache |
| 19:46.37 | jetscreamer | !dynamicmmap |
| 19:46.41 | rootborn | http://pastebin.com/m27e7b5c8 |
| 19:46.48 | jetscreamer | !dynamicnmap |
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| 19:47.00 | jetscreamer | !listkeys dynamic |
| 19:47.01 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'dynamic' by key (8): _default dynamic dns ;; dynamic mmap ;; dynamics ;; dynamic dns ;; dynamic-mmap ;; #debian dynamic mmap ;; _default dynamic mmap ;; quantum bogodynamics. |
| 19:47.15 | jetscreamer | !dynamic-mmap |
| 19:47.15 | dpkg | see dynamic-mmap |
| 19:47.22 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 19:47.26 | jetscreamer | !dynamic mmap |
| 19:47.26 | dpkg | Getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get? Put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . If you still get the same error, increase the value. If that file doesn't exist, add it, or put that line in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ You can also possibly get rid of this error by deleting entries from your sources.list that you don't actually need. |
| 19:47.29 | Tramp | jetscreamer: you can e.g. check the factoids in a /msg with dpkg before trying all combinations in the channel |
| 19:47.44 | jetscreamer | yes i know.. i'm lazy and inconsiderate |
| 19:47.47 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 19:47.58 | simonrvn | !pal jetscreamer |
| 19:48.02 | bjwebb | jetscreamer: thanks |
| 19:48.02 | XTZ | Hey, |
| 19:48.02 | XTZ | hs_moo.o: could not read symbols: Bad value |
| 19:48.06 | XTZ | That is a font error, no? |
| 19:48.11 | simonrvn | :P |
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| 19:48.21 | jetscreamer | today is my day |
| 19:48.59 | bjwebb | jetscreamer: so by default is there a limit to the amount of packages or repos you can have? |
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| 19:49.20 | jetscreamer | basically |
| 19:49.21 | XTZ | How do you set permissions on a user so they can compile? |
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| 19:49.34 | jetscreamer | i've had that error... fixed it both ways at one time or another |
| 19:49.44 | jetscreamer | use fakeroot |
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| 19:49.59 | bjwebb | jetscreamer: thanks |
| 19:50.13 | bjwebb | is there any risk by increasing the limit? |
| 19:50.15 | alvarezp | rootborn, what security suite do you use in your router? WPA? WEP? or not at all? |
| 19:50.19 | jetscreamer | not afaik |
| 19:50.24 | bjwebb | rite |
| 19:50.41 | rootborn | alvarezp, no ideea |
| 19:50.44 | jetscreamer | of course, why do you need all those entries is a thought |
| 19:50.49 | bjwebb | jetscreamer: so you run sid do you? |
| 19:50.53 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 19:50.54 | XTZ | Erm would anyone here happen to know how to apply permissions so a user can compile stuff? |
| 19:51.02 | DawnLight | what does "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL" mean? |
| 19:51.15 | bjwebb | jetscreamer: well, im on lenny, but some stuff is only in etch and i want some latest stuff from sid |
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| 19:51.24 | jetscreamer | testing is the best compromise |
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| 19:51.44 | chops | XTZ: Users can compile things without any special permissions |
| 19:51.54 | jetscreamer | mixed with assorted sid items |
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| 19:52.15 | chops | DawnLight: Probably that a GL library (mesa?) is not installed |
| 19:52.29 | DawnLight | thanks chops |
| 19:52.44 | chops | DawnLight: np |
| 19:52.48 | Aiden|Asleep | ummmm |
| 19:53.00 | jeffwheeler | Hmm; that's good. 10.5 does seem to be sending a request to connect, and atalkd seems to be working too (on startup of it on Debian, I get packets on 10.5). |
| 19:53.07 | Aiden|Asleep | can't remove webmin comes back with error 1 |
| 19:53.08 | alvarezp | rootborn, we need to know that info |
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| 19:53.31 | chops | Aiden|Asleep: Debian does not provide webmin packages, and we recommend that you not use the ones you're using. |
| 19:53.50 | rootborn | alvarezp, how can I have that info ? |
| 19:53.54 | AidenCade | ok |
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| 19:54.01 | jetscreamer | AidenCade: try d/l'ing the packages manually from pdo, install them, then remove --purge them ? |
| 19:54.05 | AidenCade | Sorry trying to fix an issue one buddies sys |
| 19:54.14 | jetscreamer | but you might need to fix the script thing |
| 19:54.24 | chops | jetscreamer: He's using webmin packages, which aren't in Debian hence not on pdo |
| 19:54.28 | simonrvn | removing webmin would help in fixing it |
| 19:54.37 | AidenCade | how do I do that? |
| 19:54.41 | chops | jetscreamer: Or are there stub packages on pdo? |
| 19:54.48 | jetscreamer | sarge? |
| 19:54.53 | jetscreamer | i mean the sarge repo |
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| 19:55.09 | jetscreamer | it's on pdo eh... oldstable |
| 19:55.22 | AidenCade | he's using srage site ftp |
| 19:55.26 | AidenCade | sarge |
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| 19:55.53 | XTZ | Guys, |
| 19:55.54 | XTZ | 20:52:46 [_Badmanh] install -m 700 services /root/services/services |
| 19:55.54 | XTZ | 20:52:46 [_Badmanh] install: cannot remove `/root/services/services': Permission denied |
| 19:55.58 | chops | AidenCade: Can you pastebin 'apt-cache policy webmin'? |
| 19:56.02 | XTZ | That is the error we receive. |
| 19:56.09 | XTZ | How can I set the correct permissions? |
| 19:56.15 | jetscreamer | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=webmin&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 19:56.46 | jetscreamer | just if the install/update is borked, one usually needs to complete installation before removing, no? |
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| 19:57.24 | AidenCade | chops : Command to do so pls? |
| 19:57.27 | RyanRyan52 | XTZ: are you root? |
| 19:57.39 | XTZ | @RyanRyan52: no. |
| 19:57.42 | XTZ | well. |
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| 19:57.43 | chops | AidenCade: Run the command I gave you, and copy-and-paste the output into a pastebin |
| 19:57.46 | XTZ | I got a root account of course. |
| 19:57.51 | chops | !tell AidenCade about pastebin |
| 19:57.52 | RyanRyan52 | XTZ: you have to be root |
| 19:57.53 | XTZ | But the compile needs to be done on a normal user. |
| 19:58.04 | chops | XTZ: sudo make install |
| 19:58.08 | RyanRyan52 | XTZ: make as a user |
| 19:58.09 | AidenCade | I haven;t used debian in a while and never had an issue with apt |
| 19:58.13 | RyanRyan52 | XTZ: make install as root |
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| 19:58.17 | john_sack | What's cpac? There's no man page and I can't find anything on google. |
| 19:58.18 | AidenCade | sorry I know how to Pastebin |
| 19:58.23 | jetscreamer | fakeroot |
| 19:58.24 | AidenCade | was looking for the other command |
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| 19:58.48 | XTZ | I'll try some of those methods. |
| 19:58.49 | XTZ | Sec. |
| 19:58.53 | jetscreamer | you mean pebkac, john_sack ? |
| 19:59.03 | simonrvn | fakeroot is pretty only used to make debs |
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| 20:00.13 | simonrvn | pretty much* |
| 20:00.14 | XTZ | Guys, update: |
| 20:00.14 | XTZ | 20:59:31 [_Badmanh] we cant install as a root |
| 20:00.14 | XTZ | 20:59:36 [_Badmanh] it CANT BE RUN ON IT |
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| 20:00.32 | simonrvn | do mind not pasting here... |
| 20:00.33 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 20:00.39 | jetscreamer | !kp-mantra |
| 20:00.39 | dpkg | i heard kp mantra is make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 20:00.44 | simonrvn | arg, do you* |
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| 20:00.57 | AidenCade | chops: http://pastebin.com/d66e1b747 |
| 20:01.01 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 20:01.10 | AidenCade | that has the original log and the info you requested |
| 20:01.14 | alvarezp | rootborn, check your router configuration. |
| 20:01.20 | simonrvn | !tell XTZ -about sudo |
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| 20:01.40 | Haris | Hello people |
| 20:01.41 | Haris | I have 2 IPs on one NIC. How do I send traffic from ssh to server from a specific IP? |
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| 20:02.07 | simonrvn | XTZ: chops already said this to you |
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| 20:02.13 | rootborn | althaser, it did work fine last time and it work fine on windows |
| 20:02.18 | XTZ | simonrvn: ? |
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| 20:02.36 | chops | AidenCade: You don't have webmin installed. |
| 20:02.40 | avenger__ | hello |
| 20:02.40 | simonrvn | pay attention instead of running around with like chickens with their heads lopped off |
| 20:02.43 | AidenCade | He did |
| 20:02.50 | XTZ | 21:01:22 [XTZGZoReX] and sudo cant do it? 21:02:05 [_Badmanh] no <- well, he says sudo cant do it |
| 20:02.54 | chops | AidenCade: That's why all the various webmin-blahblah packages aren't installing correctly |
| 20:02.55 | AidenCade | I know cause I accessed it |
| 20:03.00 | AidenCade | I see |
| 20:03.00 | riganta | Guys, I set up my DNS server but now I cannot connect to my isp my email. Would it be linked to a DNS config? |
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| 20:03.05 | chops | AidenCade: The Debian package of webmin is not installed |
| 20:03.09 | chops | AidenCade: Install it |
| 20:03.11 | AidenCade | ok |
| 20:03.28 | chops | AidenCade: Actually, for preference, don't... but installing it will fix this particular problem in addition to giving you a big pile of new ones |
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| 20:04.33 | jetscreamer | actually you can probably use dselect and get rid of it |
| 20:04.37 | jetscreamer | w/o installing |
| 20:04.49 | jetscreamer | probably the aptitude front end also |
| 20:04.55 | simonrvn | XTZ: stop pasting crap, and respond to what's been asked, and read what the bot has told you. |
| 20:04.57 | jetscreamer | but i don't even know what it looks like |
| 20:04.57 | Haris | got it |
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| 20:05.04 | AidenCade | lol chops: http://pastebin.com/d543cb83f |
| 20:05.09 | simonrvn | fuck this |
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| 20:05.12 | grendal_prime | grrrrr |
| 20:05.13 | AidenCade | I can't install it |
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| 20:05.20 | jetscreamer | or aptitude purge webmin* |
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| 20:05.28 | AidenCade | thanks |
| 20:05.39 | chops | AidenCade: You still aren't trying to install _webmin_. |
| 20:05.45 | AidenCade | aptiue works in console? |
| 20:05.50 | grendal_prime | this is insane..i need an app that scans a network and returns the results ither into a database, or well that would be the ideal |
| 20:05.50 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 20:05.54 | AidenCade | ok |
| 20:05.57 | chops | AidenCade: The problem with all those webmin-* packages is that webmin isn't installed (it looks like). |
| 20:06.11 | chops | AidenCade: How did you even get into this situation? |
| 20:06.13 | avenger__ | ? |
| 20:06.20 | AidenCade | It's not my situation |
| 20:06.22 | jetscreamer | it's a buddy of his he said |
| 20:06.32 | AidenCade | I am ssh'd to his box |
| 20:06.37 | jetscreamer | yeah ... 'a friend of mine has this problem...' :) |
| 20:06.43 | jetscreamer | j/k |
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| 20:06.52 | twiggz | ppls friends suck. |
| 20:07.13 | AidenCade | Damnnit! |
| 20:07.16 | grendal_prime | and blow |
| 20:07.18 | AidenCade | Purge failed too |
| 20:07.18 | jetscreamer | dselect |
| 20:07.19 | chops | AidenCade: It takes a certain amount of --force or something to get webmin-* installed without webmin |
| 20:07.30 | AidenCade | lol |
| 20:07.34 | jetscreamer | chops: he said it was sarge |
| 20:07.36 | kawd | http://pastebin.com/m2a38f639 |
| 20:07.36 | grendal_prime | at the same time somtimes...thats called blucking by the way |
| 20:07.41 | AidenCade | I am sure it's a Linux Newbie thing |
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| 20:07.59 | AidenCade | I am currently using sabayon |
| 20:08.01 | kawd | I tried to compite a .c file and it didn't go through, why? can I make it successful in any way? |
| 20:08.02 | kawd | http://pastebin.com/m2a38f639 |
| 20:08.15 | chops | AidenCade: Well, that's the thing... you have to know what you're doing enough to use --force or whatever, but not know enough not to do it. |
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| 20:08.32 | AidenCade | should I tell him to re-install Debian? |
| 20:08.41 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 20:09.01 | AidenCade | He can't use apt/aptitude or synaptic |
| 20:09.01 | jetscreamer | yeah could just install etch instead of sarge |
| 20:09.10 | RyanRyan52 | kawd: Is this something you are writing? |
| 20:09.15 | jetscreamer | try dselect |
| 20:09.22 | jetscreamer | use the _ to purge |
| 20:09.25 | AidenCade | command not found when he tried |
| 20:09.27 | kawd | RyanRyan52, what you mean? |
| 20:09.28 | jetscreamer | o |
| 20:09.32 | jetscreamer | ?? |
| 20:09.35 | beware | on a debian system, when i'm in vi, in the type mode (after pressing i), pressing arrow keys produces A, B, C, D characters |
| 20:09.40 | chops | AidenCade: What happened when you tried to install webmin? |
| 20:09.41 | RyanRyan52 | kawd: Where did you get this c file? |
| 20:09.44 | beware | instead of what i'd expect, moving the cursor |
| 20:09.50 | kawd | RyanRyan52, on the net/ |
| 20:09.53 | AidenCade | same errors as before |
| 20:09.59 | chops | AidenCade: What errors are those? |
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| 20:10.06 | AidenCade | staus 2 and stauts one with a failed to install |
| 20:10.08 | beware | why, and how do i fix this |
| 20:10.11 | AidenCade | I dunno |
| 20:10.18 | chops | AidenCade: The only errors I've seen from you have been errors related to webmin-* packages, not webmin itself. |
| 20:10.18 | RyanRyan52 | kawd, did it give instrctions on how to compile it? |
| 20:10.20 | jetscreamer | AidenCade: dpkg --purge webmin and all the other webmin* |
| 20:10.25 | kawd | RyanRyan52, no :/ |
| 20:10.43 | jetscreamer | i don't think you can dpkg --purge webmin* but you can try |
| 20:10.49 | RyanRyan52 | kawd, it probably requires that you link to a library or something. Post the file to pastebin and ask in ##c |
| 20:10.54 | enouf | kawd: try gcc? |
| 20:11.12 | jetscreamer | another thing you could try is touch that post-inst script |
| 20:11.15 | RyanRyan52 | enouf, there the same thing...aren't they |
| 20:11.16 | enouf | kawd: also ask in ##linux-coders maybe |
| 20:11.17 | kawd | How can I link it to a library? it comes with a lib |
| 20:11.20 | jetscreamer | that it can't find |
| 20:11.28 | kawd | RyanRyan52, How can I link it to a library? it comes with a lib |
| 20:11.41 | RyanRyan52 | kawd, I forgot, ask in ##c |
| 20:11.45 | AidenCade | chops: http://pastebin.com/d2d3cff54 |
| 20:11.47 | kawd | Ok thanks |
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| 20:12.17 | jetscreamer | uh |
| 20:12.26 | jetscreamer | no i mean enter the names manually |
| 20:12.32 | jetscreamer | or try webmin* |
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| 20:12.55 | jetscreamer | is that a bash moment? |
| 20:12.58 | enouf | RyanRyan52: depends how the symlinks and the /alternatives are setup |
| 20:13.07 | RyanRyan52 | ohh |
| 20:13.11 | AidenCade | oops |
| 20:13.13 | AidenCade | lol |
| 20:13.18 | AidenCade | he is just gonna start over |
| 20:13.41 | jetscreamer | AidenCade: goodbye-windows.com if he has windows |
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| 20:14.23 | jetscreamer | or dvd#1 or businesscard |
| 20:14.28 | AidenCade | lol |
| 20:14.50 | RyanRyan52 | kawd, gcc file.c -o file.o; ld file.o the_lib_goes_here -o file |
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| 20:15.04 | beware | i have a problem with vi |
| 20:15.07 | AidenCade | just gonna tell him to restart the whole shabang |
| 20:15.13 | RyanRyan52 | kawd, ooh, nvm |
| 20:15.19 | Tramp | beware: no idea why, but use nvi or vim |
| 20:15.20 | jetscreamer | tell him to install etch or lenny |
| 20:15.25 | beware | this is in vim |
| 20:15.25 | jetscreamer | AidenCade: ^^ |
| 20:15.25 | AidenCade | it seems most of his issues are dependecies |
| 20:15.33 | AidenCade | he installed etch |
| 20:15.42 | AidenCade | but was using sarge for reposits |
| 20:15.45 | jetscreamer | where did sarge come.. ah |
| 20:15.49 | enouf | sudo update-alternatives --list cc and "readlink -f /usr/bin/cc ; readlink -f /usr/bin/gcc" can show |
| 20:15.53 | jetscreamer | there is why |
| 20:15.54 | AidenCade | lol |
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| 20:16.50 | riganta | Guys, Evolution has become edgy since I have installed my DNS server. It doen't recognize my passwords to connect to my email accounts anymore. Anyone could help here?? |
| 20:16.52 | AidenCade | I just noticed that |
| 20:17.02 | AidenCade | although I never had an issue with it really |
| 20:17.11 | jetscreamer | it's just the webmin |
| 20:17.23 | AidenCade | but I used synapic mainly and it auto selected the one for Depends |
| 20:17.34 | AidenCade | well webmin never ran for me in Deb |
| 20:17.52 | AidenCade | thought it was designed for Mandrake based systems |
| 20:17.54 | jetscreamer | !info webmin etch |
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| 20:18.07 | jetscreamer | [14.19.27] <dpkg> Package 'webmin' does not exist. |
| 20:18.15 | themill | !webmin |
| 20:18.15 | dpkg | it has been said that webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 20:18.19 | AidenCade | thanks |
| 20:18.22 | jetscreamer | yeah i already did that |
| 20:18.27 | themill | :) |
| 20:18.35 | rootborn | can some one help me with my wireless to make it work ? |
| 20:18.49 | Agiofws | ixus:/etc# apt-cache search xorgsetup |
| 20:18.49 | Agiofws | ixus:/etc# |
| 20:18.59 | themill | rootborn: what's the output of uname -r |
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| 20:20.03 | rootborn | 2.6.22-14-generic |
| 20:20.08 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 20:20.15 | jetscreamer | rootborn: #ubuntu |
| 20:20.21 | DawnLight | will anyone help with a compile time error of building a debian source? seems like some missing library but i don't know which. http://pastie.org/141606 |
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| 20:20.33 | Agiofws | someone tell me what package conatains xorgsetup ? |
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| 20:20.38 | Agiofws | or xorgconfig ? |
| 20:20.41 | rootborn | jetscreamer, what about it? |
| 20:20.50 | Eulex | Agiofws, you don't need it, use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 20:20.53 | themill | !tell rootborn about ipw3945 |
| 20:20.58 | Agiofws | i do |
| 20:20.59 | Agiofws | Eulex, |
| 20:21.02 | themill | !tell rootborn about ubuntu |
| 20:21.02 | RichardRoma | When I start my debian machine... it boot right into X and to a GUI logon.... how do I disable this GUI logon, what do i uninstall? |
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| 20:21.10 | Agiofws | i have driver screen issues |
| 20:21.18 | Eulex | !tell RichardRoma about nodm |
| 20:21.29 | Eulex | Agiofws, with what driver and such as... ? |
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| 20:21.42 | Agiofws | ati driver |
| 20:21.50 | themill | rootborn: you are running ubuntu and we can't help you with that. Ask the #ubuntu people about help with your intel 3945 card. Ask about ipw3945 and iwl3945. |
| 20:21.51 | arcticpenguin | is it true packages get real old in debian |
| 20:22.00 | jetscreamer | RichardRoma: chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm (or kdm or whatever) or backup and empty out /etc/default-display-manager ... no need to uninstall the package like that factoid says |
| 20:22.01 | Agiofws | hello i posses an ATI HD 2600 on a laptop but sometime i get these symptoms http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onepc4.jpg its like a very HIGH contrast desktop I AM CONCERNED that its a HARDware problem on the laptops screen 1) the faulty backlight 2) the faulty graphics card 3) faulty software could any one help the laptop is quite new asus f3sa .... atm i am using a dual head display but the high contrast image onl |
| 20:22.02 | Agiofws | Agiofws y exists on the laptops... screen can anyone give me some advice |
| 20:22.02 | RyanRyan52 | DamnLight: install all the build dependancies in debian/control |
| 20:22.17 | tremby | my debian lenny server's date keeps getting set to an incorrect time. ntp is installed and set up to use uk.pool.ntp.org but doesn't seem to be functioning. running ntpdate uk.pool.ntp.org fixes the problem until i check the next day and the date's off again. what's going on? |
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| 20:22.28 | jetscreamer | arcticpenguin: not in testing/sid |
| 20:22.29 | Eulex | Agiofws, fglrx? |
| 20:22.30 | rootborn | I know that |
| 20:22.37 | Agiofws | yes |
| 20:22.43 | arcticpenguin | but in debian 4 |
| 20:22.56 | jetscreamer | in the stable? yes |
| 20:23.00 | Agiofws | i just need a tooll that produces anothet kind of xorg.conf file |
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| 20:23.13 | jetscreamer | arcticpenguin: but there are backports |
| 20:23.13 | RichardRoma | my name is RICHARD ROMA PEOPLE CMON |
| 20:23.22 | jetscreamer | !tell arcticpenguin -about backports |
| 20:23.24 | Agiofws | with right screen depths maybe X canots set the right depth when it happens i dont know |
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| 20:23.42 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.51 | beware | tremby, try something with ntpq |
| 20:23.53 | RichardRoma | lenny, sid.... who the hell are these debian versions named after? |
| 20:23.55 | Agiofws | will i have to install fglrx again compile ? |
| 20:24.02 | Eulex | Agiofws, there's not much we can do, fglrx is one big binary blob. I can only advice you to try out the free radeonhd driver to see if that fixes it |
| 20:24.11 | themill | !tell RichardRoma about releases |
| 20:24.13 | googlix_ | Has anybody had any issue with a Sony LDC Tv with Debian? I'm using etch and when I'm using my TV the screen keeps shuddering... |
| 20:24.16 | tremby | beware: i don't know how to use it |
| 20:24.22 | Agiofws | Eulex, i wind't have 3d Acc |
| 20:24.24 | Eulex | Agiofws, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only reconfigures X. you will not need to reinstall fglrx. |
| 20:24.25 | themill | RichardRoma: "toy story" characters |
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| 20:24.27 | beware | i dont know either but look it up on google |
| 20:24.27 | Eulex | Agiofws, right. |
| 20:24.36 | Tramp | beware: huh. Only had this in plain vi, never in vim. Maybe this helps: http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=550 |
| 20:24.46 | Eulex | Agiofws, but it would be a way of finding out whether it's a hardware or driver issue. |
| 20:24.48 | RichardRoma | ummmm i thought ubnoobtu and the likes were named after toy story characters |
| 20:24.51 | beware | thanks |
| 20:24.53 | Agiofws | ok so i will back up xorg.conf |
| 20:25.06 | Eulex | RichardRoma, they aren't |
| 20:25.10 | RyanRyan52 | Agiofws, it will |
| 20:25.13 | jetscreamer | RichardRoma: debian is, ubuntu is just a clone |
| 20:25.25 | RichardRoma | i thought cloning was illegal |
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| 20:25.26 | enouf | take a hike b0z0 |
| 20:25.37 | jetscreamer | RichardRoma: depends on where you are |
| 20:25.40 | beware | slink, potato, woody, sarge, etch, lenny |
| 20:25.42 | RichardRoma | touche |
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| 20:26.19 | RichardRoma | isnt debian gonna run out of toy story characters eventually |
| 20:26.28 | beware | is sarge a toy story character? |
| 20:26.33 | Eulex | beware, yes |
| 20:26.34 | jetscreamer | there's always the credits |
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| 20:26.48 | Notch-1 | and etch ?? |
| 20:26.53 | RichardRoma | i suggest that debian starts picking out names from my movie: glen garry glen ross... |
| 20:26.54 | beware | the first thing sarge makes me think of is quake 3 |
| 20:26.56 | jetscreamer | the etch a sketch |
| 20:27.00 | RichardRoma | the next build should be called RichardRoma |
| 20:27.14 | beware | RichardRoma do you have some personality issue? |
| 20:27.17 | DawnLight | RichardRoma: nah, not before the world ends |
| 20:27.20 | Notch-1 | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, tnx jetscreamer :DD |
| 20:27.21 | jetscreamer | richard roundtree> RichardRoma |
| 20:27.27 | Eulex | beware, sarge is the commander of the green toy soldiers |
| 20:27.28 | RichardRoma | ummmm have you guys ever seen the movie? |
| 20:27.35 | RichardRoma | Glen Garry Glen Ross |
| 20:27.49 | RichardRoma | it has a lot to do with debian |
| 20:27.50 | Notch-1 | not entirely, and before using debian :D |
| 20:28.13 | Notch-1 | i need to rewatch :D |
| 20:28.46 | guk | hi ... im running kernel 2.6.22-2-686 and I can't seem to find the header files for it ... I can find 2.6.22-3-686 but not 2.6.22-2-686 ... is there a place I can go to get it (apt can't find it) |
| 20:28.47 | RichardRoma | well it stars al pachino who plays richard roma... hes a computer hacker who invents a distrubution to battle debian and the likes... stallman is a serial killer |
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| 20:29.14 | jetscreamer | guk apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 20:29.38 | jetscreamer | guk: but if sid it may not be there anymore if you waited |
| 20:29.46 | jetscreamer | it will be in testing though |
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| 20:29.50 | dkr | RichardRoma: rms is no serial killer, he just wants love: http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/bos/533096562.html |
| 20:29.53 | jetscreamer | jsut add a testing source |
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| 20:30.03 | Eulex | guk, but you should really upgrade to 2.6.22-3-686 if possible |
| 20:30.07 | samad909 | hi, i think something is up with my installation, after installing the program 'an' and trying to remove it, i cant install any apps as aptitude and apt-egt both fail by saying Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 20:30.09 | jetscreamer | or that |
| 20:30.37 | Eulex | guk, if you wanna keep 2.6.22-2-686, I'd suggest downloading the .deb of the headers from packages.debian.org |
| 20:30.49 | Sam1337 | Does Lenny have the proprietary Nvidia drivers in the non-free repository yet? |
| 20:30.54 | jetscreamer | no |
| 20:30.56 | jetscreamer | not for months |
| 20:30.57 | guk | okay ... I think I looked there ... but got some bad links ... i'll come back if I find anything |
| 20:31.00 | guk | thanks |
| 20:31.21 | jetscreamer | Sam1337: you can usually just use whatever's in sid |
| 20:31.23 | googlix_ | has anyone ever used Debian with an LCD TV? I getting problems with the display... it keeps shuddering... |
| 20:31.25 | jetscreamer | ymmv |
| 20:31.32 | Eulex | http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx |
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| 20:32.04 | Sam1337 | Eulex: Thanks for the linky. |
| 20:32.09 | Eulex | googlix_, I assume that that is specific to your X driver. and yes, somebody has very probably already used debian with an lcd tv. |
| 20:32.13 | johnny132 | Y HELO THERE.... HAI CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE TO DOWNLOAD LATEST LINUX KERNEL? |
| 20:32.16 | jetscreamer | i wish this 'do not call list' thing would kick in... |
| 20:32.29 | jetscreamer | !tell johnny132 -about caps |
| 20:32.29 | guk | Eulex: nothing ... I can't find anything ... just some squashfs modules and a buncha other non related items |
| 20:32.34 | guk | someone must have this kernel header somewhere |
| 20:32.35 | Eulex | johnny132, kernel.org |
| 20:32.39 | jetscreamer | johnny132: kern.. |
| 20:32.44 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 20:32.47 | johnny132 | WHAT IS KERN? |
| 20:33.04 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 20:33.05 | johnny132 | WHATS WITH THE BZ2 FILES.... WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, AND WHY DONT THEY PUT THEM IN ZIPS |
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| 20:33.27 | jetscreamer | !caps |
| 20:33.27 | dpkg | Don't write words all in capital letters unless they're abbreviations. To emphasize words put an underscore( "_" )_ on both sides of them. |
| 20:33.37 | Eulex | guk, oh. try snapshot.debian.net then. |
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| 20:34.05 | Sam1337 | emphasise* |
| 20:34.08 | googlix_ | Eulex: humm got it.. do you have any idea where I can find some useful information? I've tried google for awhile but couldn't find anything... |
| 20:34.14 | johnny132 | HAI CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY DEBIAN DOESNT USE BZ2 FILES???? |
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| 20:34.34 | Sam1337 | zomg |
| 20:34.47 | Eulex | johnny132, it does. and please go away, troll. |
| 20:34.56 | asperon | can anybody recommend a good pvr solution that runs under debian, pref handeled via cli or web interface? |
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| 20:35.05 | Eulex | googlix_, sorry, I'm not sure |
| 20:35.11 | guk | Eulex: thanks ... Ive never had any issues with apt like this but thanks alot ... your help is appreciated |
| 20:35.14 | guk | :D |
| 20:35.26 | Eulex | guk, you should upgrade to -3-, though |
| 20:35.41 | Eulex | guk, or do you value your precious uptime? ;) |
| 20:35.51 | DawnLight | will anyone help with a compile time error of building a debian source? seems like some missing library but i don't know which. http://pastie.org/141606 |
| 20:35.55 | jetscreamer | !dpkg say eth01 jet said to tell you he loves you and has to go now |
| 20:35.56 | googlix_ | ok... thank you anyway :D |
| 20:36.11 | themill | jetscreamer: fail |
| 20:36.16 | jetscreamer | :/ |
| 20:36.21 | jetscreamer | ciao |
| 20:36.27 | guk | Eulex: my uptime ... :D and I don't upgrade what doesn't give me issues ... I know I _should_ just reboot ... but no ... |
| 20:36.30 | guk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.31 | guk | :D |
| 20:36.32 | jetscreamer | !say eth01 jet said to tell you he loves you and has to go now |
| 20:36.32 | dpkg | eth01 jet said to tell you he loves you and has to go now |
| 20:36.41 | AidenCade | lol |
| 20:37.05 | Eulex | asperon, mythtv? |
| 20:37.07 | AidenCade | !dkpg say Moooooo |
| 20:37.12 | RichardRoma | i installed a program a while back in debian that takes all those shitty runlevels (rc0, rc1) and puts them into one file.... anyone know what that program is called? |
| 20:37.18 | asperon | Eulex: id prefer a gui less one |
| 20:37.24 | asperon | ie, web if at all possible |
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| 20:37.49 | AidenCade | oh well I tried |
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| 20:38.36 | Eulex | DawnLight, I'd say that you're missing the opengl dev files |
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| 20:38.54 | themill | dl d |
| 20:38.57 | themill | urgh |
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| 20:39.32 | Eulex | DawnLight, either that or that build script is messing with your paths, but I doubt that. |
| 20:39.50 | kalila | Some network gurus here? How to disable wide internet connectivity, but leave local ethernet connectivity |
| 20:40.00 | DawnLight | Eulex: which package should that be, do you know? |
| 20:40.15 | wols | kalila: remove the default gateway |
| 20:40.21 | Eulex | DawnLight, the one that contains libGL.so. I'm not exactly sure which. |
| 20:40.33 | guk | Eulex: hmm ... I can't seem to find these headers ... I found the headers for -1 but not -2 |
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| 20:40.43 | wols | Eulex: the dev package has no libGL.so file... |
| 20:40.46 | wols | it has header files |
| 20:41.17 | guk | http://snapshot.debian.net/package/linux-headers-2.6.22-2-686 |
| 20:41.30 | themill | libgl1-mesa-dev <-- isn't that what is needed |
| 20:41.30 | guk | this is the link ... but nothing that I need ... how do you just lose a file ... I don't get it someone must have it somewhere |
| 20:41.32 | \amethyst | wols: err, here it says libgl1-mesa-dev contains the libGL.so symlink |
| 20:41.42 | Eulex | wols, well, yeah, symlink |
| 20:41.45 | wols | amee2k: mea culpa |
| 20:42.07 | Eulex | dev packages usually contain such symlinks. |
| 20:42.21 | wols | why is libGL only a symlink? |
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| 20:43.06 | themill | it's not. It's a versioned symlink. |
| 20:43.32 | themill | libGL.so -> .so.1 -> .so.1.2 |
| 20:44.57 | Eulex | guk, indeed, it appears to have the source files for 2.6.22-2 though. but that is a pain to build. if you attempt to do it, make sure to edit the build files so it only builds the packages you want; otherwise it will built all variants of images and headers etc etc for your arch. |
| 20:45.14 | guk | ah ... wiked I think I might have found it tho thanks alot eh ... |
| 20:45.15 | DawnLight | Eulex: thanks! |
| 20:45.15 | guk | :) |
| 20:45.27 | detoxifier | Where can I get rebuild? |
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| 20:48.56 | orveldv | can someone help a poor new debian user who wants to know for how many years he can run debian without reinstalling, just sticking with "stable" and doing incremental updates (+ dist-upgrade), and without fearing glibc or gcc C++ ABI changes or other nasty things? |
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| 20:49.05 | rootborn | http://pastebin.com/m442f6725 |
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| 20:49.24 | wols | you can upgrade forever |
| 20:49.27 | dkr | orveldv: forever |
| 20:49.44 | themill | rootborn: If you are still using ubuntu, then you need to ask in #ubuntu |
| 20:49.50 | wols | but C++ ABI and glibc will probably periodically change. depending on how gcc folks do it |
| 20:49.54 | dkr | if old libs need they can be kept |
| 20:49.58 | wols | it's no job or want of debian to change those |
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| 20:50.29 | rootborn | themill, :) are you rasist? |
| 20:50.34 | themill | orveldv: there are sometimes some extra simple steps to do for major upgrades though. But it's all fairly straight forward. Look, for example, at the release notes for etch which tell you about upgrading from sarge. |
| 20:50.48 | Eulex | !tell rootborn about based on debian |
| 20:50.52 | wols | rootborn: are you daft? |
| 20:50.53 | streuner | rootborn: #ubuntu |
| 20:51.03 | rootborn | Eulex, I know that |
| 20:51.09 | rootborn | I had debian until yesterday |
| 20:51.17 | themill | rootborn: We can't help you with ubuntu because ubuntu is not the same as debian. We would be guessing and we would make problems for you. |
| 20:51.17 | wols | rootborn: we do not support ubuntu, we support debian ONLY. ubuntu is not debian, therefore we don't support it |
| 20:51.21 | AidenCade | some people and some nicks.. |
| 20:51.29 | Radhad8549 | hi all |
| 20:51.32 | streuner | rootborn: well, then its time to join another channel |
| 20:51.34 | wols | rootborn: you run ubuntu right now |
| 20:51.42 | AidenCade | isn't ubuntu deb based? |
| 20:51.43 | rootborn | streuner, cool |
| 20:51.45 | Radhad8549 | which package must I install for the svn command line tool ? |
| 20:51.57 | rootborn | that really helped me alot |
| 20:51.58 | wols | !tell Radhad8549 about search |
| 20:52.04 | Eulex | !tell AidenCade about based on debian |
| 20:52.05 | streuner | Dont ever call somebody of Debian an rassist! |
| 20:52.12 | spersaud | Radhad8549 : sudo apt-cache search subversion |
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| 20:52.27 | wols | streuner: I'm sure there are tons of people using debian who are racists |
| 20:52.34 | orveldv | dkr, wols, themill: sounds well, thank you ; I knew about the release notes, I was just fearful that something may break at some point |
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| 20:52.44 | AidenCade | sorry was just askin |
| 20:52.58 | streuner | wols: dude, i dont know nobody and iam some years in serveral Debian channels! |
| 20:52.59 | AidenCade | I liked Debs Apt-get |
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| 20:53.12 | Eulex | AidenCade, sorry, misunderstood |
| 20:53.16 | Eulex | AidenCade, and yes it is |
| 20:53.19 | wols | streuner: small amount of people are in #debian channels |
| 20:53.19 | Radhad8549 | thx spersaud |
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| 20:53.35 | wols | recently I saw a (former) DDs fundamentalist christian website |
| 20:53.35 | AidenCade | Eulex: what is the ratio usually for based on?? |
| 20:53.49 | Eulex | AidenCade, what do you mean? |
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| 20:54.02 | xerophytev | with egrep if i want to do or i can use '( | )" how can i use the and ? |
| 20:54.14 | Eulex | AidenCade, 'based on' is more of a claim of the creators of the derivative distro, they can change as much as they want |
| 20:54.18 | wols | xerophytev: & perhaps? |
| 20:54.20 | AidenCade | not just for Deb.. I mean is there a specific amount of the sys that has to be used for it to be considered baesed on? |
| 20:54.30 | Eulex | AidenCade, or are you asking how many are using them? |
| 20:54.37 | xerophytev | wols: i tried that didn't work |
| 20:54.41 | AidenCade | no you anaswered |
| 20:54.43 | AidenCade | thanks |
| 20:54.50 | wols | astro76: it has to be installed from debian media and no significant changes done |
| 20:54.54 | AidenCade | was just wonderin about that |
| 20:55.07 | wols | AidenCade:^^^ |
| 20:55.21 | streuner | wols: those people who ever think about arent too long in Debian, trust me on that on ;-) |
| 20:55.24 | AidenCade | cause I know you can use something Like LFS but tht could include all distros pkgs right |
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| 20:55.53 | AidenCade | I mean you would have to intall apt and rpm etc |
| 20:55.56 | chops | AidenCade: You _could_ do anything you want to... but you shouldn't ask for support for such a setup from #debian |
| 20:56.02 | wols | streuner: a KKKI member doesn't have to should "nigger" 100% of the time |
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| 20:56.08 | AidenCade | I am not askin was observin |
| 20:56.11 | axp-mobbing | hi |
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| 20:56.45 | AidenCade | regarding q about how much actually constitutes based on.. |
| 20:56.49 | spersaud | wow Gnome 2.20 is awsome way better than before |
| 20:56.58 | spersaud | I never used to like gnome user interface ... |
| 20:57.09 | wols | AidenCade: not really that you can point a % on it |
| 20:57.11 | AidenCade | I am still a Kde man nmostly |
| 20:57.21 | chops | !start a wm war |
| 20:57.22 | dpkg | GNOME blows goats! |
| 20:57.27 | jelly-home | it sure does! |
| 20:57.37 | badcfe | heh the epoch changed from 1100 million to 1200 million last week |
| 20:57.37 | AidenCade | lol |
| 20:57.39 | spersaud | anyone know the packages for an hp 5150 deskjet and how to install that ? |
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| 20:57.42 | dkr | gnomes are the right height for that |
| 20:57.51 | AidenCade | I see wols |
| 20:57.54 | ricosecada | Any recommendations on web application vulnerability assessment tools? |
| 20:58.03 | jelly-home | !cups |
| 20:58.03 | dpkg | hmm... cups is a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999, or making loads of trouble if you try to use it, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see <cups-unstable>, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see <cups setup> |
| 20:58.14 | AidenCade | was just a curiosty thing.. Considering how many distros are based upon others |
| 20:58.14 | twiggz | i prefer gnome to kde anyday. |
| 20:58.16 | jelly-home | spersaud: cups, and probably hplip |
| 20:58.20 | wols | ricosecada: easy: don't use php :P |
| 20:58.21 | twiggz | kde is a slow fat bitch. |
| 20:58.43 | AidenCade | I find they both are with 256 MB ram |
| 20:58.45 | AidenCade | lol |
| 20:58.50 | dkr | ricosecada: if you need a professional certification (e.g. for PCI compliance) I've found scanalert.com decent |
| 20:58.56 | streuner | wols: trust me, there is nobody in Debian who ever thin about racism, for sure! |
| 20:59.18 | jelly-home | streuner: except those fuckin niggaz |
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| 20:59.49 | streuner | wols: and those who are, they arent very long in Debian then! |
| 20:59.50 | wols | streuner: it's interesting to see how you know about the thoughts of 800 people |
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| 21:00.18 | dkr | ricosecada: there is also http://www.metasploit.com/ |
| 21:00.34 | streuner | wols: i know many in IRC, they would kill you then :-) |
| 21:00.54 | AidenCade | I think that just digressed about 1000 notches |
| 21:01.07 | zmotok | hey, how do you rebuild modules under debian? (i have the debian kernel source, i have it compiled and now i had to edit a modules' source and i just want to rebuild and install that one) |
| 21:01.10 | dkr | we introverted computer geeks often make the mistake of assuming everyone else thinks the way we do. :p |
| 21:01.11 | ricosecada | dkr, thanks |
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| 21:01.42 | jelly-home | zmotok: if the module sources are packaged, using module-assistant |
| 21:01.44 | wols | streuner: would you have thought abrotman was wallowing in a pigstye? constantly? |
| 21:01.49 | jelly-home | !m-a |
| 21:01.49 | dpkg | i heard module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install .deb packages with them, or aptitude install module-assistant build-essential && m-a prepare |
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| 21:02.16 | streuner | wols: you didnt unterstand right now... |
| 21:02.25 | zmotok | jelly-home: it's not an.. external module, it's the kernels' alps.c touchpad driver |
| 21:02.42 | wols | streuner: then we're two |
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| 21:03.05 | jelly-home | zmotok: so rebuild the kernel just like you always do |
| 21:03.27 | jelly-home | hopefully using make-kpkg |
| 21:03.30 | streuner | wols: i know many here since '99, trust me... |
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| 21:03.42 | AidenCade | Gah |
| 21:04.02 | wols | streuner: you certaily don't know if I'm a racist or not |
| 21:04.10 | wols | and I'm in #d for quite a long time. |
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| 21:04.13 | zmotok | jelly-home: yeah, i thought there might be another way, god i hope i didn't make-kpkg clean.. |
| 21:04.17 | AidenCade | amsn is so bloated now it's not even funny... and yet.. only seems to be an issue in Nix.. LOL |
| 21:04.19 | twiggz | Im not racist, I own 3 color tvs. |
| 21:04.24 | zmotok | jelly-home: thanks |
| 21:04.36 | jelly-home | zmotok: you can do it the dirty way |
| 21:04.46 | jelly-home | oh well |
| 21:05.18 | streuner | wols: if you are, then quit here, we dont like racists |
| 21:05.31 | jelly-home | We need to PRUNE all the extremists. |
| 21:05.44 | wols | jelly-home: we're in debian. it |
| 21:05.48 | wols | it's "purge" |
| 21:06.07 | jelly-home | wols: i was thinking of feeding with bad prunes |
| 21:06.13 | jelly-home | s/with // |
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| 21:07.23 | jelly-home | streuner: not the Debian takes very good care not to impose restrictions for usage. Racists are welcome to use it. |
| 21:07.28 | jelly-home | note* |
| 21:07.30 | jelly-home | blah |
| 21:07.54 | jelly-home | that's some bad English :-( |
| 21:07.57 | wols | streuner: are sexists unweclome too? |
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| 21:08.11 | streuner | wols: sure :-) |
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| 21:08.24 | jelly-home | and vegans too? |
| 21:08.29 | wols | former inhabitants of #d-o won't like that I guess |
| 21:08.29 | streuner | nah :-) |
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| 21:08.53 | jelly-home | wols: those sexist pigs! |
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| 21:11.51 | wols | jelly-home: they're sexists. who cares about them? |
| 21:11.54 | streuner | wols: and another thing, you wouldnt survive long in freenode - not only in #debian if you are an racist... ;-) |
| 21:12.08 | thunder_storm | hi everybody |
| 21:12.14 | jelly-home | wols: I sure don't! |
| 21:12.49 | streuner | wols: the same in OFTC |
| 21:12.58 | thunder_storm | i have a error, if i compile a source with gcc 4.1 (debian etch) - error: extra qualification 'xx' on member 'xy' |
| 21:13.06 | wols | streuner: I can derogate krauts, kikes, polaks, spicks, goatfuckers, etc all day. as long as I do it in a channel where no one cares |
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| 21:14.00 | thunder_storm | i find out, that gcc 4.1 no more ignore these error "extra-qualification" |
| 21:14.00 | chops | thunder_storm: pastebin the exact error |
| 21:14.00 | wols | thunder_storm: ##C |
| 21:14.00 | thunder_storm | no problem |
| 21:14.05 | thunder_storm | sh make_precompiled_header.sh |
| 21:14.27 | chops | !tell thunder_storm about paste |
| 21:14.47 | thunder_storm | its only this line: MBBot.h:74: error: extra qualification ‘MBBot::’ on member ‘GetModal’ |
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| 21:15.33 | chops | thunder_storm: I'd remove the "MBBot::", then :-) |
| 21:15.52 | thunder_storm | i must remove these value? |
| 21:16.10 | chops | thunder_storm: That strikes me as the correct solution (you might want to let upstream know also) |
| 21:16.19 | chops | thunder_storm: Of course, I haven't seen the code in question |
| 21:16.37 | protoloco | where can i get the nslookup _ |
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| 21:16.37 | protoloco | ? |
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| 21:17.14 | thunder_storm | i find these line in the program-code: uint32 MBBot::GetModal(Player *plr, uint32 MBid); |
| 21:17.45 | chops | thunder_storm: Inside the MBBot class declaration, right? |
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| 21:18.15 | thunder_storm | yes, right |
| 21:18.29 | thunder_storm | so if i see |
| 21:18.59 | chops | thunder_storm: Yeah, that sounds reasonable for gcc to reject to me. That said, there's probably an -f option to allow that kind of declaration. |
| 21:19.11 | orveldv | I'm still a little confused, let's say that I upgrade from Sarge to Etch, and both have the same version of "myapplication-x.y.z" in the repo, but compiled with different gcc's ; aptitude or synaptic won't upgrade "myapplication" because it has the same version, however there have been some ABI changes; can this be a real world scenario that can break things? |
| 21:19.45 | azeem | orveldv: no |
| 21:19.47 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: How is it going today... Still having misadventure with the orinoco card... When I boot, it seems like every possible modules loads and the machine locks up... And if I try to insert the card after I boot, the system locks up... Good thing I have my D-Link G730 device... |
| 21:19.57 | limbeaux | how would i go about deleting files that are 14 days or older without deleting 1 file at a time? |
| 21:20.07 | abrotman | Feral_Kid: how long did you wait ? |
| 21:20.12 | abrotman | limbeaux: man find |
| 21:20.16 | streuner | limbeaux: via find |
| 21:20.18 | thunder_storm | what can i do now? please forgive me, I dont have seen before a c++ code :-) i know php, but not more :-) |
| 21:20.34 | azeem | thunder_storm: how is this related to Debian? |
| 21:20.50 | azeem | thunder_storm: if you need general programming advise, ask in an appropriate channel |
| 21:21.00 | streuner | limbeaux: find -mtime +14 -exec rm -f {} \; |
| 21:21.03 | azeem | thunder_storm: if you want to compile random code, ask their authors, maybe |
| 21:21.10 | abrotman | streuner: rm -i ? |
| 21:21.17 | orveldv | azeem: that's good ; but why not? |
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| 21:21.34 | wols | thunder_storm: and if you need an earlier gcc version to compile: install gcc 3.3 from debian for example |
| 21:21.36 | streuner | abrotman: the question was how to delete files older than 14 days... |
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| 21:21.46 | abrotman | streuner: -f seems hasty |
| 21:21.47 | thunder_storm | yes, thats absolute correct, azeem - but i want to know, can i use a parameter, that i don't have these error? |
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| 21:22.01 | streuner | abrotman: -i is better, sure |
| 21:22.03 | azeem | orveldv: because packages with the same (debian) version are actually identical binaries |
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| 21:22.24 | azeem | thunder_storm: 22:13 < wols> thunder_storm: ##C |
| 21:22.25 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: I walked away from the machine and a hour it was still locked... When I boot, it loads the yenta module, then madwifi kicks in, and I see wifi0, then I see the hermes driver try to start and that is when it hangs... |
| 21:22.25 | abrotman | streuner: or he could feed the list to a file and double check it |
| 21:22.29 | wols | thunder_storm: you are OT here. ask in ##c or ##c++ |
| 21:22.32 | jelly-home | orveldv: if the apps breaks that badly it needs to be rebuilt, it will be (and the package versions and dependencies will be updated) |
| 21:22.44 | streuner | abrotman: sure, say that to him... |
| 21:22.47 | abrotman | Feral_Kid: why is it loading madwifi if it's atheros ? |
| 21:23.28 | orveldv | azeem, jelly-home: ok I see now, thank you |
| 21:23.28 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: I don't have the slighest idea, and the card is an orinoco set... |
| 21:23.29 | protoloco | where can i get the nslookup |
| 21:23.31 | protoloco | package |
| 21:23.32 | protoloco | command |
| 21:23.41 | wols | abrotman: cause madwifi is the driver for atheros chips? |
| 21:23.45 | abrotman | Feral_Kid: you would have had to install the madwifi stuff |
| 21:23.51 | wols | !tell protoloco about search |
| 21:23.53 | abrotman | wols: erm .. he's orinoco :) |
| 21:23.59 | abrotman | wols: brain fart |
| 21:24.04 | jelly-home | protoloco: you can also use "host" instead... package "bind9-host" or "host" |
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| 21:24.15 | wols | abrotman: yesh, can smell it up to here. bad abrotman :P |
| 21:24.26 | jelly-home | or even getent hosts www.example.com, I guess |
| 21:24.28 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: I never added any any additional things from the time the cd finished loading... |
| 21:24.28 | DawnLight | protoloco: apt-cache search nslookup |
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| 21:24.44 | abrotman | Feral_Kid: you're sure it's loading madwifi ? |
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| 21:24.52 | wols | Feral_Kid: debian doesn't come with madwifi on CDs |
| 21:25.03 | limbeaux | streuner where do i put the path to the files? |
| 21:25.29 | streuner | limbeaux: that command just start in which folder you put it... |
| 21:25.41 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: Yep, I have looked at it several times... Wouldn't madwifi create wifi0 as the interface? |
| 21:25.49 | abrotman | madwifi would create ath0 |
| 21:25.53 | streuner | limbeaux: and it recursivly delete every file then... |
| 21:26.10 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: Then what creates wifi0? |
| 21:26.22 | abrotman | orinoco on my system creates eth1 |
| 21:26.39 | streuner | limbeaux: but use the advice of abrotman and put in first on a filelist and decide then if you really want use it |
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| 21:27.29 | limbeaux | ok, i wanting to make a cron job that will delete files in a temp dir that are older than 14days. thanks for the help |
| 21:27.33 | streuner | limbeaux: these commands are really heavy, you should know what you doing... |
| 21:27.41 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: That is what is recognized it as when I was installing of the netinst CD... Once I booted the system, then I started having issues with the orinoco card... |
| 21:28.11 | abrotman | Feral_Kid: i'd guess you're having pcmcia issues |
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| 21:28.50 | larstr | Hi! I'm trying to get X11 forwarded in an ssh session working. I've set X11Forwarding and X11DisplayOffset in sshd_config and I'm connecting using ssh -X, but the $DISPLAY is not set |
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| 21:29.03 | larstr | anyone know where I can start looking for a solution? |
| 21:29.37 | Vamps | export DISPLAY=:0 . |
| 21:29.38 | Vamps | ? |
| 21:29.45 | chops | larstr: Got xbase-clients installed on the ssh server/X client? |
| 21:30.01 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: So should I remove the pcmcia stuff and re-install it, or is there some dpkg-reconfigure command that I can re-run? |
| 21:30.02 | larstr | chops: checking... |
| 21:30.19 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 21:30.19 | dpkg | i guess laptop is All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ and also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad> |
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| 21:30.41 | jelly-home | larstr: reloaded sshd? |
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| 21:30.58 | larstr | jelly-home: yes |
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| 21:31.54 | orveldv | larstr: ssh -Y doesn't work either? |
| 21:32.35 | larstr | orveldv: -Y don't do anything different for $DISPLAY |
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| 21:33.10 | valdyn | larstr: maybe you didnt restart the servers sshd, maybe you edited ssh_config instead of sshd_config |
| 21:33.50 | larstr | valdyn: ssh has been restarted and sshd_confnig was configured at the server side |
| 21:34.01 | AidenCade | q |
| 21:34.21 | AidenCade | which do you find is better?? Firefox or Opera in nix? |
| 21:34.36 | wols | !survey |
| 21:34.36 | dpkg | somebody said survey was Don't ask whether 'somebody uses <app>' unless conducting a survey. Ask the question that you want to ask. |
| 21:34.40 | valdyn | larstr: only real way to not have DISPLAY set then is if you dont have DISPLAY set in the terminal where you run ssh |
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| 21:34.46 | streuner | AidenCade: iceweasel :-) |
| 21:35.01 | AidenCade | tha's firefox for Deb I know |
| 21:35.12 | dkr | "...at night the iceweasels come" |
| 21:35.30 | chops | !iceweasel |
| 21:35.30 | dpkg | i guess iceweasel is the name of a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian starting from Etch. It is different from GNU's version of Firefox, which formerly had the same name but is now known as IceCat (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/). To learn about the reasons for the fork, ask me about <why iceweasel>. |
| 21:35.35 | chops | Aw |
| 21:35.39 | orveldv | larstr: you could also do "xhost +the.server.ip" , then ssh, then export the DISPLAY to the client IP |
| 21:35.42 | AidenCade | I was just wonderin cause mozilla runs slow for me so I wanna find another one that may not be as slow |
| 21:35.54 | abrotman | AidenCade: opera isn't in debian |
| 21:35.54 | jelly-home | icecat! |
| 21:36.02 | chops | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. -- Matt Groening, "Life in Hell" |
| 21:36.10 | streuner | AidenCade: i use iceape personally, its just fine for me... |
| 21:36.21 | abrotman | streuner: you do? |
| 21:36.28 | streuner | abrotman: sure |
| 21:36.34 | larstr | orveldv: I don't think I can do that since the server don't have access to the client through the firewall |
| 21:36.35 | abrotman | o.kay |
| 21:36.42 | AidenCade | brb |
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| 21:38.17 | bioe007 | hi all. new to debian, I get no cli output from glxgears? |
| 21:38.27 | karrotx_ | anyone know where the tcsh history file is stored? |
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| 21:39.24 | Zharf | !tell bioe007 -about glxgears |
| 21:40.25 | bioe007 | huh? |
| 21:40.43 | abrotman | !glxgears |
| 21:40.43 | dpkg | glxgears is, like, an opengl demo. it is not a good benchmark, in fact in recent versions of glxgears you must pass it the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark flag in order to get it to report fps information. now located in the mesa-utils package. |
| 21:41.26 | larstr | chops: ah.. thanks alot!! xbase-clients did it! :-) |
| 21:41.35 | chops | larstr: np |
| 21:41.55 | bioe007 | dpkg: much better answer thanks. is there any alternative? |
| 21:41.57 | dpkg | okay, bioe007 |
| 21:42.34 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: Ok, I decided to add modules directly to /etc/modules... So beside orinoco, what else should I add to support the orinoco? |
| 21:42.50 | abrotman | pcmcia.. maybe ? |
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| 21:43.39 | orveldv | and the last question, I promise: besides the common application bugs, should there be some more problems if I stick with "testing" forever? |
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| 21:44.04 | abrotman | stuff that gets removed and/or broken stuff |
| 21:44.16 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: I have, that, I was just checking for orinoco related modules... Like do I need at orinoco-cs or anything else besides the basic orinoco. If figure by doing it this way, I can blacklist anything else that might cause issues... |
| 21:44.20 | abrotman | sometimes when there is a migration .. it gets ugly |
| 21:44.42 | abrotman | Feral_Kid: you might need orinoco-cs .. i don't use it because mine is pci |
| 21:45.10 | orveldv | abrotman: I see ; then I'll stick with stable instead. Thank you |
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| 21:45.39 | abrotman | orveldv: FWIW .. i track lenny currently .. and will after its release until the first major influx of packages into testing |
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| 21:46.37 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: Alright, I will give that a try and see what that does for me... |
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| 21:48.18 | orveldv | abrotman: ok then maybe it would be a better solution for me to track lenny too, and much later to jump from one stable to another |
| 21:48.54 | abrotman | orveldv: lenny is planned to be released this year .. so at some point stuff will freeze and get more stable .. |
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| 21:49.22 | Swat2 | If i have 2 hdds in a raid1 (hda1 & hdb1) and in dmesg i have errors relating to hda1, why the hell would mdadm degrade hdb1 and leave hda1 running?!?!! |
| 21:49.51 | orveldv | abrotman: yep ; thank you |
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| 21:52.05 | wols | Swat2: how should mdadm know which one is bad? |
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| 21:53.11 | BigS | hi all |
| 21:53.30 | BigS | i have a question about aptitude and source.list |
| 21:53.34 | doudou | Hi, i saw in wikipedia that exists a python shell to replace bash? Can i get it on my etch1? |
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| 21:54.10 | doudou | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_shells |
| 21:54.34 | Swat2 | wols: http://www.pastebin.ca/867757 |
| 21:54.34 | BigS | the thing is, i want to install http://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx |
| 21:54.40 | doudou | i always found so stupid perl and bash programs |
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| 21:54.45 | wols | doudou: name? |
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| 21:54.52 | BigS | but when i type aptitude -s install nvidia-glx-legacy |
| 21:54.58 | BigS | it wont find the pagacke |
| 21:55.07 | BigS | i added the unstable source to my source.list |
| 21:55.18 | wols | Swat2: hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 21:55.20 | doudou | wols, name??? |
| 21:55.33 | wols | !tell BigS about non-free |
| 21:55.40 | wols | doudou: of the shell |
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| 21:55.47 | wols | !tell doudou about search |
| 21:55.51 | Swat2 | wols: but, hda has errors too? |
| 21:56.05 | Eulex | AidenCade, or are you asking how many are using them? |
| 21:56.07 | doudou | wols, seems to be python shell, i gave the like to wiki article |
| 21:56.15 | Eulex | arfg, sry |
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| 21:56.34 | Eulex | BigS, do you want to upgrade to unstable? |
| 21:56.35 | BigS | wols: this is my source.list: http://paste.debian.net/47390 |
| 21:56.40 | BigS | i added non-free |
| 21:56.57 | doudou | i would like to know how to install it in debian, if i would get rid of all bash scripts to have instead python programs? |
| 21:57.01 | BigS | no i just want to install that package fomr the unstable repos |
| 21:57.33 | Eulex | !tell BigS about default-release |
| 21:57.38 | doudou | because i know that python loves me |
| 21:57.49 | wols | BigS: non-us does not exist. and do not mix testing and unstable deb. for what you want only deb-src is needed |
| 21:57.51 | BigS | sorrry, i fortog to mention that i used the -t option |
| 21:58.08 | BigS | aptitude -s -t unstable install ... |
| 21:58.09 | aptitude | There is no record of a -t unstable install ... package |
| 21:58.23 | Eulex | BigS, set a default-release for testing |
| 21:58.26 | chops | doudou: Using one tool for all jobs is often a sign of erroneous thinking. bash would love you too, if only you'd let it. |
| 21:58.39 | BigS | it doesnt work with the -t option? |
| 21:58.43 | Eulex | BigS, that way your next dist-upgrade won't upgrade your box to unstable |
| 21:58.52 | doudou | chops, bash is too old to love anymore |
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| 21:59.12 | wols | !info nvidia-glx-legacy sid |
| 21:59.14 | dpkg | nvidia-glx-legacy: (NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (71xx legacy version)), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7185-4 (sid), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 16 kB |
| 21:59.15 | Eulex | BigS, and follow wols' advice |
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| 21:59.32 | Eulex | !tell BigS about simple sid backport |
| 21:59.46 | BigS | ok, i'll try, thx |
| 21:59.52 | Eulex | !tell BigS about simple sid backport? |
| 21:59.57 | wols | BigS: is uni essen an official debian mirror? |
| 22:00.02 | doudou | chops, using python is not using one tool, it is using one super-tool |
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| 22:00.23 | Eulex | argh, I'm so sorry, my up arrow is where my right shift key usually is |
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| 22:00.30 | wols | !info ipython etch |
| 22:00.32 | dpkg | ipython: (enhanced interactive Python shell), section python, is optional. Version: 0.7.2-5 (etch), Packaged size: 1057 kB, Installed size: 2364 kB |
| 22:00.39 | doudou | chops, anyway can i have this python-shell? i dont understand why wiki mention it |
| 22:00.45 | wols | doudou: that's it |
| 22:00.46 | BigS | wols, when i installed debian that mirror was in the list |
| 22:01.10 | doudou | !info ipython etch |
| 22:01.13 | dpkg | ipython: (enhanced interactive Python shell), section python, is optional. Version: 0.7.2-5 (etch), Packaged size: 1057 kB, Installed size: 2364 kB |
| 22:01.13 | Eulex | BigS, also, did you run apt-get/aptitude update after modifying your sources.list? |
| 22:01.41 | chops | doudou: I mean, you can set your shell to /usr/bin/python if you like |
| 22:02.01 | chops | doudou: What page was it that mentioned this python shell? |
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| 22:02.10 | doudou | wols, so aptitude install ipython, thats all? did you test it? it will makes strange system to boot? |
| 22:02.15 | BigS | Eulex, hmm, not after the last change, i guess this mayy the problem |
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| 22:02.26 | doudou | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_shells |
| 22:02.40 | BigS | just received this error: http://debian.uni-essen.de testing/non-US/non-free Sources |
| 22:02.41 | BigS | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.01 | BigS | so this mirror semms to have no unstable part |
| 22:03.11 | doudou | chops, i would like to read all bash programs, like all the booting scripts, everything under python? |
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| 22:03.49 | chops | doudou: You would like python to interpret your bash scripts for you? |
| 22:04.09 | chops | doudou: That page seems to simply be referring to the 'python' program, which is an interactive shell. |
| 22:04.18 | chops | doudou: It also mentions ipython as an alternative. |
| 22:05.10 | wols | chops: no it doesn't. IPython is different |
| 22:05.28 | wols | tho they might have integrated it into the interpreter or soon will. could be |
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| 22:07.33 | grendal_prime | im getting no response in #openvpn..does anyone here know how to enable a --client-connect script ini openvpn?? |
| 22:07.46 | grendal_prime | cause im about ready to kill something |
| 22:07.54 | AngusRF | I had to move my system to another partition and I've been using cp. Genious as I am, I forgot to use --preserve, now all files have either permission 700 or 600. You can guess the system won't work anymore. Is there a way to apply some default permissions for the whole file system? Would it be very bad to just do chmod go+rX -R /? |
| 22:08.20 | chops | wols: Yes, it does. "Tab completion: Yes (provided by the rlcompleter module or IPython)" |
| 22:08.55 | Eulex | BigS, you just got told a few screens up that non-us does not exist anymore. |
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| 22:09.06 | wols | chops: IPython still/is was a different thing |
| 22:09.23 | wols | !non-us |
| 22:09.23 | dpkg | methinks non-us is where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01355.html |
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| 22:09.44 | chops | wols: Correct. If it wasn't, there wouldn't be much point in mentioning it separately :-). |
| 22:09.44 | wols | BigS: see this "post woody" part? |
| 22:09.46 | doudou | is there a project of a distrib with only python shell and python programs to replace all scripts of bash, like in rc.d and else? |
| 22:10.01 | wols | doudou: ask in ##linux |
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| 22:10.15 | wols | but I never saw an init system with python |
| 22:10.20 | wols | would be very dumb too |
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| 22:10.48 | chops | doudou: You should embark on such a project -- I have a feeling you'll discover why it's a bad idea along the way. |
| 22:10.51 | wols | the closest is gentoo I guess: portage is python |
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| 22:14.08 | Swat2 | wols: do you think its perculiar that both hard drives had problems at the same time, do you think this could of been a power fluctuation? i removed hdb from the raid and run a full fsck over it with no errors or errors in dmesg.. |
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| 22:14.46 | wols | fsck is useless. smartmontools |
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| 22:15.10 | wols | fsck is for checking filesystems, not for checking media defects |
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| 22:15.35 | kuribas | I have copied a windows disc to a partition on my other disc, but I cannot boot windows from this new partition. Any idea how to make that possible? I am using lilo. |
| 22:15.44 | kuribas | I don't know why it doesn't work. |
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| 22:15.57 | kuribas | Shouldn't lilo be able to boot windows? |
| 22:16.09 | chops | kuribas: Are you using the chainloader functionality? |
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| 22:16.19 | chops | kuribas: lilo does not boot Windows like lilo boots Linux |
| 22:16.38 | chops | Swat2: It's certainly possible for disk controllers and motherboards to fail... |
| 22:16.44 | kuribas | chops: I don't know, I'll paste my lilo.conf. |
| 22:17.00 | chops | kuribas: If you don't know, I suspect you've not set it up correctly :-) |
| 22:17.14 | chops | kuribas: You need to set up a booting Windows system without lilo, and then get lilo to chain-load the Windows bootloader |
| 22:17.17 | chops | kuribas: IIRC |
| 22:17.39 | Swat2 | chops: i just find it odd that both hdds reported errors at exactly the same time |
| 22:17.52 | kuribas | chops: Do I install the booting system on my mbr? (/dev/hda) |
| 22:17.56 | chops | Swat2: Not odd... informative. |
| 22:18.08 | chops | Swat2: Are they both on the same controller or both connected directly to the mobo? |
| 22:18.29 | Swat2 | same controller |
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| 22:19.01 | chops | Swat2: That's the first place I would suspect a failure then |
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| 22:19.08 | Swat2 | mmm |
| 22:19.36 | phorce1 | I had a drive fail while I was preparing another to back it up. 10 years worth of data. I replace(d) the drive every 2 or 3 years. I just finished wiping the old backup in preparation to do a new full backup and pfffttt!!! partition table gone for some reason. No backup table in sight and I can't figure out a way to rebuild it cleanly. |
| 22:20.05 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: you could try gpart |
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| 22:21.06 | Enron | how can I download kernel sources for debian, I need to recompile snapapi26 for acronis backup agent |
| 22:21.32 | phorce1 | SerajewelKS: it doesn't see anything there to edit. And I tried a low-level recovery tool and it says there is one big partition on the disk (which I know isn't true. I haven't let anything write back to the drive yet, I'm still hopeful that one day ... |
| 22:21.40 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: gpart != gparted |
| 22:22.18 | phorce1 | SerajewelKS: really? I'll go look for gpart (without the (ed) |
| 22:22.28 | SerajewelKS | !info gpart |
| 22:22.30 | dpkg | gpart: (Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.1h-4.1 (sid), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
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| 22:23.09 | Enron | how can I download kernel sources for debian, I need to recompile snapapi26 for acronis backup agent |
| 22:23.18 | SerajewelKS | !tell Enron about repeat |
| 22:24.02 | \amethyst | Enron: you don't really need the full source to compile a module---just the headers |
| 22:24.14 | \amethyst | Enron: try aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 22:24.40 | Enron | ty |
| 22:25.05 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: I was almost going to give up and keep dragging around my G730 around... But with perseverance and some pointers from you, the problem has been solved... I am now wireless again... :) |
| 22:25.22 | abrotman | Feral_Kid: it all worked out ? |
| 22:26.48 | chops | phorce1: FWIW, if you lose a partition table (and JUST the partition table) you can recreate an identical one and still access the data |
| 22:26.56 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: I was on the track about blacklisting... So I booted again, and although it locked up, I noticed that there was two modules that I didn't need: ieee80211_crypt and hostap_cs (which was creating the wifi0 interface)... Blacklisted both of those and I am good to go! |
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| 22:27.40 | chops | phorce1: Try it out sometime on a scratch disk. Create a partition, make a filesystem, fool around with the FS, delete the partition and write to disk, verify that the partition's not accessible anymore, recreate the partition and observe that all your old data from the FS is still there. |
| 22:28.14 | chops | phorce1: I saved my boss from what looked to be an impending full-on panic attack once with that trick :-) |
| 22:28.28 | abrotman | Feral_Kid: ah ... that makes sense now .. that was quite a battle for you |
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| 22:29.50 | lacrost | 4 |
| 22:30.25 | lacrost | 8 |
| 22:30.31 | lacrost | 15 |
| 22:30.35 | abrotman | !ops lacrost again |
| 22:30.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: abrotman complains about: lacrost again |
| 22:30.39 | Feral_Kid | abrotman: Very much so... I am wondering why it was thrown in the mix the NETINST CD should have just passed over the same parameters that I used to boot the CD.... Weird... That and the problem I was having with the modules not loading... Something to go in my notebook.... |
| 22:30.45 | jelly-home | wtf |
| 22:31.09 | lacrost | bye |
| 22:31.10 | themill | Is it sunday or is it tards 'n' trolls day or something? |
| 22:31.25 | lacrost | im bored |
| 22:31.32 | jelly-home | It's always Sunday somewhere in the world! |
| 22:31.38 | tomaw | lacrost: take it elsewhere, please |
| 22:32.02 | abrotman | tomaw: repeat offender |
| 22:32.20 | themill | ahhh .... public holiday in the US.... that'd do it. There's a lot of trollness waiting to be unleashed upon the world there... |
| 22:32.41 | abrotman | themill: he's not in .us |
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| 22:32.59 | jelly-home | he's us in the heart? |
| 22:33.08 | lacrost | how can you know that? |
| 22:33.21 | themill | abrotman: true... some of the others have been though. |
| 22:33.35 | themill | lacrost: you have no idea how much we all know about you already. |
| 22:33.41 | abrotman | jelly-home: there are stupid people everywhere :) |
| 22:33.57 | lacrost | how much? |
| 22:33.57 | jelly-home | abrotman: !!true |
| 22:34.19 | Enron | where is the kernel source kept |
| 22:34.24 | themill | !confuse lacrost |
| 22:34.25 | dpkg | No, who was our weasel today, lacrost? breeches of the monarchy of tibet with extra anchovies |
| 22:34.46 | lacrost | i'm venezuelan not indian |
| 22:34.54 | themill | we know |
| 22:34.59 | jelly-home | Jan 20 04:53:26 ---mentor sets ban on *!?=lacrost*@* |
| 22:35.01 | lacrost | how? |
| 22:35.06 | Enron | \amethyst I need to point the dkms to kernelsourcedir where would this be located |
| 22:35.10 | abrotman | jelly-home: he messed up :) |
| 22:35.26 | \amethyst | Enron: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 22:35.37 | Enron | muchos gracius |
| 22:35.59 | jelly-home | lacrost: thank you for playing. *plonk* |
| 22:36.07 | lacrost | enron: english please |
| 22:36.37 | jelly-home | lost sucked anyway |
| 22:36.44 | abrotman | lacrost: do you have a debian question or not? |
| 22:37.06 | lacrost | yes |
| 22:37.10 | abrotman | lacrost: do NOT msg me |
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| 22:37.38 | The_PHP_Jedi | man I swear the noobs are going wild since yesterday afternoong |
| 22:37.44 | Enron | \amethyst I used this dkms build -m snapapi26 -v snapapi26-0.7.10 -k 2.6.18-5-686 --config /boot/config-2.6.18-5-686 --arch i686 --kernelsourcedir /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686 , but dkms errors Error! DKMS tree does not contain: snapapi26-snapapi26-0.7.10 |
| 22:38.00 | themill | The_PHP_Jedi: there must me something in the water |
| 22:38.10 | The_PHP_Jedi | :-/ yeah |
| 22:38.12 | jelly-home | The_PHP_Jedi: it's the most depressing day in the year.. and someone has to make it depressing |
| 22:38.20 | The_PHP_Jedi | heh |
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| 22:38.34 | The_PHP_Jedi | man but some of them have really been pissing me off :-/ |
| 22:38.47 | abrotman | you could /part |
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| 22:38.52 | themill | dpkg: vogonsmite lacrost |
| 22:38.52 | dpkg | lacrost: Oh freddled gruntbuggly, / Thy micturations are to me / As plurdled gabbleblotchits / On a lurgid bee. / Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes / And hooptiously drangle me / with crinkly bindlewurdles, / Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon / See if I don't. |
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| 22:39.22 | phorce1 | I was off reading the gpart man page when chops noted that a partition table can be rebuilt by hand. Yes, but that requires remembering the partition layout that one set up 2 years ago. I've started saving my partition tables to files an 3 different machines in folders labeled "partbackup" with filenames like "anyanka.sda.seag.40.partback" (machine name, drive, maker, size) |
| 22:39.33 | jelly-home | The_PHP_Jedi: you're into php... must have masochistic tendencies anyway |
| 22:39.42 | fishy | Debian-mips problem.. using testing/main/installer-mips/current/images/r5k-ip32/netboot-boot.img on a 180MHz IP32 O2, fdisk partitions SGI label OK, mkfs.ext3 formats partition OK, but debian-installer keeps telling me "No partitions were found" |
| 22:40.11 | jelly-home | phorce1: that's decent practice. |
| 22:40.25 | The_PHP_Jedi | haha |
| 22:40.45 | azeem_ | lacrost: do you have a debian question? |
| 22:40.58 | phorce1 | 'dd if=/dev/hda of=filename bs=512 count=1' then copy out to the backup folders |
| 22:41.03 | fishy | does anyone have an idea how i might work around that "No partitions.." problem? |
| 22:41.40 | jelly-home | phorce1: that won't save logical partitions. Use something like sfdisk -d /dev/hda |
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| 22:42.15 | jelly-home | phorce1: you can pipe that output directly back into sfdisk /dev/hda |
| 22:42.47 | phorce1 | jelly-home: thanks. I mostly shy away from logicals but I know some drives have them. |
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| 22:43.38 | phorce1 | fishy: You'll probably have to look for an SGI or mips specific group to ask (is there a #debia-sgi or #debian-mips?) |
| 22:43.48 | jelly-home | !mips |
| 22:43.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mips is (Million Instructions Per Second) This is a rating of how quickly a processor can process instructions. A processor rated at 100 MIPS can process 100,000,000 instructions per second. or a port of linux to computers equiped with MIPS processors. or Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed, or a processor commonly found in video game console systems, and some computers, for more information, join #MIPSLinux. |
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| 22:44.15 | fishy | phorce1: umm, no, not as I can see... at least not on freenode :( |
| 22:44.48 | Opentux | hi , i moved from etch to lenny , in the sources.list file of etch there is 2 apt-get for sarge( in the original etch sources.list) |
| 22:45.07 | Opentux | should i comment those lines |
| 22:45.15 | original_lacr | yes you can |
| 22:45.26 | phorce1 | fishy: might checj OFTC though there seems to be a bit less participation overall there (just a bit less, it's getting more active slowly) |
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| 22:45.33 | Opentux | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.57 | Opentux | ok thx original_lacr |
| 22:46.03 | jelly-home | Opentux: if you moved to lenny, in general you don't need anything older in sources.list |
| 22:46.19 | original_lacr | who is lenny? |
| 22:46.20 | xst | Do I need to recompile the kernel in order to use 4GB ram in etch or does it just work out-of-the-box? |
| 22:46.28 | original_lacr | is he linving with you? |
| 22:46.45 | abrotman | xst: the -686 kernels support 4GB |
| 22:46.57 | jelly-home | !ops original_lacr evading /ignore |
| 22:46.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly-home complains about: original_lacr evading /ignore |
| 22:46.57 | Opentux | I have one more question, i am using icedove with enigmail ( it was working great under etch) but is not working under lenny what do i have to do? |
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| 22:47.31 | xst | abrotman: ok. But how can I see which kernel that is going to be installed when running the installer from CD? Is it possible to choose the kernel manually? |
| 22:47.34 | fishy | phorce1: trying :P |
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| 22:48.10 | abrotman | xst: it's likely the -486 which only supports 960MB ... |
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| 22:48.44 | original_lacrost | ayudar gnome |
| 22:48.59 | Opentux | jelly-home: is there any new package under lenny for mozilla-enigmail to use pgp encryption with icedove? |
| 22:49.03 | original_lacrost | i'm bilingual you don't |
| 22:49.03 | azeem_ | original_lacrost: do you have a debian question? |
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| 22:49.10 | jelly-home | Opentux: I have no idea |
| 22:49.19 | Opentux | ok |
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| 22:49.28 | streuner | thanks tomaw |
| 22:49.37 | tomaw | np |
| 22:49.37 | Opentux | thanks anyway jelly-home |
| 22:49.39 | Opentux | :) |
| 22:49.58 | jelly-home | azeem_: you're too careful! :-) |
| 22:50.02 | bkw | Is 2.6.18 the latest available etch kernel packages that are available? I would like to install a later kernel, ie 2.6.23, but I guess there's no way to get debian packages with later kernels? |
| 22:50.30 | twiggz | you could try building your own kernel the debian way... |
| 22:50.30 | abrotman | officially yes .. but see backports.org and read the instructions |
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| 22:51.27 | azeem_ | jelly-home: I'm just disinclined to ban people if 50% of the lastlog is regulars making fun of them |
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| 22:51.53 | streuner | azeem_: in this case its pretty clear, it was a troll |
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| 22:52.35 | xst | abrotman: But the -686 kernel can be post installed after the base installation through apt-get? |
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| 22:52.46 | abrotman | xst: via aptitude .. yes |
| 22:52.57 | jelly-home | azeem_: let grep work for you! |
| 22:53.01 | abrotman | azeem_: the other 50% is random flooding ? |
| 22:53.58 | bkw | linux-image-2.6.22-3-686 does exist for etch on backports.. but now I've to findout if the bcm4311 support was added already in .6.22 or .23 |
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| 22:54.21 | xst | Is it generally recommended to use a "home compiled" kernel when running a server with Etch? -Or is the -686 kernel from the repo typically sufficient? |
| 22:54.27 | abrotman | bkw: bcm43xx ? |
| 22:54.40 | bkw | yep |
| 22:54.47 | xst | (e.g. can the 686 kernel utilize a dual core?) |
| 22:54.54 | abrotman | !bcm43xx |
| 22:54.54 | dpkg | bcm43xx is a driver for Broadcom's wireless chipsets (http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/) included in kernels since 2.6.17-rc2, "modprobe bcm43xx" in Etch. Firmware required to be loaded before operation, ask me about <bcm43xx-fwcutter>. Replaced with <b43legacy> in kernels 2.6.24 and later. USB devices are not supported. |
| 22:55.13 | abrotman | xst: unless you have special needs .. most are fine with -686 |
| 22:55.22 | themill | bkw: do you have an lspci -n for that card? "/msg dpkg hcl" and try the kmuto hardware checker |
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| 22:55.30 | xst | abrotman: also for dual cores? |
| 22:55.37 | abrotman | xst: sure .. why not? |
| 22:55.56 | Asmooh | sangria [L] |
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| 22:56.26 | xst | abrotman: I thought I remembered some "enable multi processor" option in the kernel config once |
| 22:56.44 | abrotman | xst: sure .. but that's been done for you |
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| 22:56.56 | xst | super |
| 22:56.57 | abrotman | Linux mycomp 2.6.22-3-686 #1 SMP Mon Nov 12 08:32:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 23:00.04 | kjs | abrotman: evening |
| 23:00.09 | fishy | since there is no #debian-mips or #debian-boot on freenode, and OFTC is fairly dead, I am reposting my question... |
| 23:00.42 | fishy | annyone know how to get around a "No partitions were found" from debian-installer, when disks actually _are_ recognized ? |
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| 23:00.57 | azeem_ | fishy: eh, there's #debian-boot on oftc |
| 23:01.25 | streuner | fishy: daily built? then #debian-boot |
| 23:01.37 | azeem_ | fishy: you might have to wait a couple of hours for a useful response |
| 23:02.10 | phogg | bloody users |
| 23:02.16 | streuner | oh, debian-mips and he already asking in #debian-boot |
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| 23:02.25 | streuner | oh god |
| 23:03.18 | streuner | phogg: Who has an idea abou mips?... |
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| 23:04.33 | jelly-home | fishy: create partitions manually in the console? |
| 23:05.02 | phogg | streuner: sorry, no speaka the english. |
| 23:05.06 | phogg | s/english/mips/ |
| 23:05.35 | streuner | phogg: iam asking myself who doing mips in Debian... |
| 23:06.05 | azeem | ths |
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| 23:06.45 | streuner | only a handful, ML isnt a bad idea |
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| 23:07.36 | vivre | wer kann deutsch sprechen? |
| 23:07.44 | Cromag | !de |
| 23:07.44 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de) |
| 23:07.52 | The_PHP_Jedi | ooh, a German speaking bot :P |
| 23:08.03 | azeem | fishy: why don't you just file a bug. And is there a reason you don't install etch? |
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| 23:12.10 | abrotman | viv145: stop it already .. it's not funny |
| 23:13.12 | abrotman | i wonder if he's harassing #gentoo also |
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| 23:13.48 | mbroeker | vivre, a few guys are still there. |
| 23:14.21 | abrotman | mbroeker: it's the troll again |
| 23:15.03 | themill | our ops are being just far too nice tonight |
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| 23:15.40 | azeem | I don't want to be called sexist afterwards |
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| 23:16.28 | Duggie | Does anyone have any idea if the ATI 3850HD card will work with linux? |
| 23:17.04 | viv145 | it doesn't work |
| 23:17.22 | twiggz | ati sucks. |
| 23:17.22 | themill | Duggie: ignore viv145 |
| 23:17.23 | Duggie | so is the 2900 the next best for it? |
| 23:17.26 | twiggz | nvidia is the ticket. |
| 23:17.35 | abrotman | twiggz: that doesn't answer his question |
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| 23:17.56 | twiggz | i wasnt trying to answer his question. |
| 23:17.57 | viv145 | because linux dont have support for high definition |
| 23:17.57 | twiggz | lol. |
| 23:18.06 | Duggie | nvidia is definately nice and what i have always used, but i tried the 3850 in xp to see if i can get h264 and mpeg4 to work smooth |
| 23:18.26 | abrotman | Duggie: according to ati.com (where you should have checked) .. the support only goes up to the 2900 |
| 23:18.34 | abrotman | viv145: shut up already |
| 23:18.35 | Duggie | yeah im lookin at that page now |
| 23:18.50 | Duggie | just wondered if anyone had input that said otherwise |
| 23:19.01 | viv145 | my country is a free country |
| 23:19.03 | abrotman | azeem: really? |
| 23:19.08 | viv145 | and internet is expression free |
| 23:19.09 | fishy | azeem: no, there is no reason why I don't... so I will defenitely try that... |
| 23:19.21 | viv145 | you are not the owner of inernet |
| 23:19.24 | abrotman | Duggie: i mean .. i'm sure support is coming .. but only ATI can know for sure |
| 23:19.35 | azeem | fishy: it's pretty well known the testing installers are quite broken right now |
| 23:19.38 | Duggie | alright ill go from there, thanks |
| 23:19.39 | abrotman | Duggie: maybe ask #ati if they know any different |
| 23:19.53 | azeem | fishy: so unless you send patches to fix the bugs you encounter along the way, use etch |
| 23:19.58 | fishy | azeem: and, I might really file two bugs now... as parted actually wiped my entire SGI disklabel :( |
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| 23:20.05 | viv145 | it does exist a #dick |
| 23:20.12 | viv145 | or #fuck |
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| 23:20.14 | abrotman | oh come on |
| 23:20.18 | afaict | hi folks |
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| 23:20.37 | abrotman | !beer azeem |
| 23:21.07 | fishy | jelly-home: creating partitions on the console worked fine (until the label was wiped, now fdisk wont even let me recreate..) but the installer did'nt see them.. |
| 23:21.13 | afaict | can anyone suggests me how to capture video from analog card? i'm trying to use mencoder but without success... with tvtime i can see the image but when i try with mplayer the image is bad |
| 23:21.31 | azeem | I was actually busy identifying with nickserv |
| 23:21.35 | abrotman | heh |
| 23:22.17 | fishy | azeem: the fdisk in testing seems to know nothin about the Xpert mode for SGI labels, but I hope etch does? |
| 23:22.47 | azeem | fishy: is if I knew |
| 23:22.56 | jelly-home | fishy: I know nothing about mips details, but testing d-i are often broken |
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| 23:24.00 | arcticpenguin380 | what kernel is in debian 4 |
| 23:24.18 | abrotman | 2.6.18 officially |
| 23:24.24 | streuner | arcticpenguin380: 2.6.18 and in backports.org something newer |
| 23:24.45 | fishy | azeem: :D |
| 23:24.51 | fishy | jelly-home: ditto... |
| 23:25.12 | jelly-home | and there be newer kernels on http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ too |
| 23:25.15 | fishy | well, I still have the option of creating the disk-label with te SGI install disks |
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| 23:26.23 | arcticpenguin380 | whats defualt DE?/ |
| 23:26.25 | arcticpenguin380 | gnome |
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| 23:26.46 | gonzaloaf | hi I have a problem... I was installing the debian bootsplash project, no I want to uninstall a package but I cant there is the error: http://pastebin.ca/867883 any clue? |
| 23:26.47 | abrotman | there isn't one |
| 23:26.49 | jelly-home | arcticpenguin380: there are installation images with kde and xfce as well |
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| 23:28.29 | arcticpenguin380 | and defualt fs is ext3 |
| 23:28.49 | abrotman | whatever you choose |
| 23:29.06 | arcticpenguin380 | reiser4 |
| 23:29.23 | abrotman | i don't think that was in 2.6.18 |
| 23:29.27 | abrotman | and it's a poor choice anyways |
| 23:29.51 | arcticpenguin380 | thats what im using |
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| 23:30.49 | jelly-home | it's your data. |
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| 23:31.01 | themill | for the time being |
| 23:31.09 | gonzaloaf | hi I have a problem... I was installing the debian bootsplash project, no I want to uninstall a package but I cant there is the error: http://pastebin.ca/867883 any clue? |
| 23:31.21 | abrotman | it's been like three minutes .. chill out |
| 23:31.36 | arcticpenguin380 | wats wrong with reiser4 |
| 23:31.49 | arcticpenguin380 | my computer is more fast |
| 23:31.54 | abrotman | faster |
| 23:32.00 | abrotman | faster != better |
| 23:32.01 | jelly-home | fastest! |
| 23:32.04 | themill | it will be even faster with no data on it to slow it down. |
| 23:32.11 | themill | Red ones are fastest. |
| 23:32.22 | themill | !reiserfs |
| 23:32.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See <ext3>, <xfs>, or <jfs> for safer filesystems. Like the DHARMA Initiative: government-sponsored, highly scientific and secretive. ... |
| 23:32.29 | abrotman | i think you wanted |
| 23:32.31 | abrotman | !ricerfs |
| 23:32.31 | dpkg | i guess ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See <reiserfs> for real info. <ext3 vs reiserfs> |
| 23:32.38 | jelly-home | um, reiser4 != reiserfs |
| 23:32.50 | arcticpenguin380 | !reiser4 |
| 23:32.51 | dpkg | it has been said that reiser4 is If you want Reiser4, why are you using debian? |
| 23:32.55 | \amethyst | jelly-home: yeah, reiser4 is even less tested :) |
| 23:32.56 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 23:33.06 | jelly-home | but still, the new one still doesn't have a working fsck and expects you to have an UPS |
| 23:33.07 | arcticpenguin380 | i only use for my / |
| 23:33.11 | arcticpenguin380 | not /home i use jfs |
| 23:33.12 | abrotman | only |
| 23:33.22 | jelly-home | *snicker* |
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| 23:33.38 | gonzaloaf | please, can somebody helping me to remove a pkg when there is this error: ' subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1' ? |
| 23:33.49 | arcticpenguin380 | !murderfs |
| 23:33.50 | \amethyst | arcticpenguin380: you should at least keep good backups of /etc and maybe part of /var then |
| 23:33.55 | jelly-home | arcticpenguin380: I hope you have working backups. |
| 23:34.09 | abrotman | jelly-home: he backs up to ntfs! :) |
| 23:34.12 | arcticpenguin380 | i have backups of my /home |
| 23:34.30 | themill | arcticpenguin380: you're free to use whatever filesystem you want. It's just that the only people we see in here who have fs problems are using reiser filesystems. |
| 23:34.47 | arcticpenguin380 | what bout jfs and xfs |
| 23:35.06 | arcticpenguin380 | do i have to patch debian to use reiser4 |
| 23:35.17 | themill | gonzaloaf: where did this package from from? |
| 23:35.30 | jelly-home | arcticpenguin380: reiser4 isn't in the mainline kernel, so yes. |
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| 23:36.00 | arcticpenguin380 | i might switch to jfs then i dont feel like patching the kernel again |
| 23:36.25 | gonzaloaf | themill, http://bstheme.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 23:37.09 | themill | gonzaloaf: you probably should ask them what's wrong with their package :) |
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| 23:37.58 | gonzaloaf | themill, what should a debian user has to do when the installation of a package breaks in the middle of the process? |
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| 23:38.18 | arcticpenguin380 | how often is a new release of debian made |
| 23:38.29 | abrotman | arcticpenguin380: when it is finished |
| 23:38.35 | abrotman | !release history |
| 23:38.35 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06) and Etch (4.0; 2007-04-08). The next release will be Lenny. See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
| 23:38.53 | arcticpenguin380 | not timed based releases like ubuntu every 6months |
| 23:38.54 | themill | gonzaloaf: in the meantime, you could look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/bstheme-common.postrm and see what it is doing to try to see if you can fix it by hand. Or add "exit 0" to the top. |
| 23:39.20 | abrotman | arcticpenguin380: nope |
| 23:39.22 | themill | gonzaloaf: and then work out what files it has destroyed and reinstall those packages. |
| 23:39.47 | themill | gonzaloaf: use apt-file to work out what packages contain the files that it has been playing with. (sysv-rc for example) |
| 23:39.53 | arcticpenguin380 | what kde versions in debian 4 |
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| 23:40.10 | themill | !tell arcticpenguin380 about search |
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| 23:40.52 | archangel7863 | I have written custom LSB compliant scripts. In order for me to make my scripts work I put my scripts in /etc/init.d. However on RHEL and SuSE based systems I have to run a command called chkconfig to activate the scripts. Do I need to do anything like that on Debian based distros? |
| 23:41.03 | themill | gonzaloaf: and tell them that their packages such. patching init scripts from postinst and postrm is pretty evil. |
| 23:41.12 | swiceje | a program I'm trying to compile wants the kernel sources of the kernel I'm using. What's the approximate name of the package I should install? I already have the kernel headers package installed |
| 23:41.16 | abrotman | archangel7863: update-rc.d |
| 23:41.34 | abrotman | swiceje: linux-image-`uname -r` |
| 23:41.39 | archangel7863 | abrotman, thanks a million |
| 23:41.43 | abrotman | erm .. linux-source |
| 23:41.56 | afaict | can anyone suggests me how to capture video from analog card? i'm trying to use mencoder but without success... |
| 23:41.56 | abrotman | ergh .. still not right |
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| 23:42.37 | abrotman | swiceje: it's linux-source-2.6.18 or something like that .. apt-cache search linux-source |
| 23:42.53 | baconisgood | out of the box, debian 4.0r2 doesn't have great looking fonts like Kubuntu does. i installed msttcorefonts thinking this would help. what else should i do? |
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| 23:42.55 | kfogel | Is this a good place to report a minor problem on a debian.org web page, or should I just follow the book and contact the webmaster at debian-www@? |
| 23:42.59 | themill | afaict: lwn.net had an article on that a couple of weeks ago with some reviews and thoughts on capture. |
| 23:43.09 | abrotman | kfogel: there's a package you can file a bug against |
| 23:43.09 | gonzaloaf | themill, ok let me try |
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| 23:43.24 | jelly-home | archangel7863: packages.debian.org -> type in kde in the package search -> click on the "etch (stable)" link -> you get to http://packages.debian.org/etch/kde/ where you see a lot of packages and versions, and a lot of versions have "3.5.5" as their part |
| 23:43.29 | jelly-home | rats |
| 23:43.36 | jelly-home | arcticpenguin380: packages.debian.org -> type in kde in the package search -> click on the "etch (stable)" link -> you get to http://packages.debian.org/etch/kde/ where you see a lot of packages and versions, and a lot of versions have "3.5.5" as their part |
| 23:43.38 | abrotman | kfogel: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=www.debian.org;dist=unstable |
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| 23:44.00 | kfogel | abrotman: thanks |
| 23:44.03 | themill | afaict: http://lwn.net/Articles/261820/ |
| 23:44.22 | abrotman | kfogel: what'd you break ? |
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| 23:45.06 | swiceje | THanks abrotman, this package should suffice |
| 23:45.07 | kfogel | abrotman: at bottom of packages.debian.org/ipmitool, where the translation languages are listed, it says: |
| 23:45.11 | kfogel | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.26 | abrotman | what's wrong with that? |
| 23:45.30 | msan | how do i get rid of stuff in /usr/share/locale for locales that i don't care for ? |
| 23:45.33 | kfogel | The correct romanization would be either "Zhongwen" or possibly "Zhongyu". |
| 23:45.38 | abrotman | oh |
| 23:45.40 | kfogel | abrotman: the "zu" is wrong. |
| 23:45.52 | abrotman | i thought you meant the unicode stuff |
| 23:45.52 | kfogel | the "wen" matches the characters, but "yu" would be fine, it just would be a synonym. |
| 23:45.59 | kfogel | abrotman: no, I can read it, it's just wrong :-). |
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| 23:46.15 | zinx | feesh |
| 23:46.16 | kfogel | abrotman: should I still report the bug, or are you on it? |
| 23:46.18 | abrotman | kfogel: i would assume a native speaker did that .. but okay :) |
| 23:46.23 | abrotman | kfogel: i can't change it .. file a bug |
| 23:46.47 | abrotman | kfogel: i'd guess that's a "Minor" bug |
| 23:46.53 | kfogel | abrotman: well, if it's a native speaker, it's one with a very heavy accent (native Chinese actually tend to get romanizations wrong *more* often than foreigners who have learned Chinese as a second language, for reasons that are probably obvious in retrospect) |
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| 23:47.00 | kfogel | abrotman: very minor, yes |
| 23:48.01 | karsten | msan: localepurge |
| 23:48.10 | abrotman | kfogel: isn't it like that at the bottom of all pages ? |
| 23:48.19 | msan | karsten: thanks. |
| 23:48.25 | karsten | msan: NP |
| 23:48.33 | abrotman | oh .. i guess not |
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| 23:49.59 | fairway | hi all |
| 23:50.04 | fairway | is there a debian media center edition? |
| 23:50.17 | abrotman | ah .. no ? |
| 23:50.27 | abrotman | what would it have different than the normal version ? |
| 23:50.31 | themill | !tell fairway about dmm |
| 23:51.02 | swiceje | not finding the sources... hmm. softlink it to something? |
| 23:51.11 | abrotman | what isn't finding ? |
| 23:51.17 | abrotman | did you unpack them ? |
| 23:51.18 | kfogel | abrotman: I couldn't find another page with Chinese listed, so I don't know. |
| 23:51.33 | abrotman | kfogel: it seems any package page ... packages.debian.org/kde |
| 23:51.43 | karsten | abrotman: Inclusion of patent-encumbered multimedia codecs. As in Marillat. |
| 23:51.55 | abrotman | kfogel: or http://packages.debian.org/etch/coreutils |
| 23:52.02 | abrotman | karsten: who would use those?! |
| 23:52.06 | karsten | fairway: What themill told you. |
| 23:52.23 | karsten | abrotman: Lusers and old married folk. |
| 23:52.26 | swiceje | make for zaptel drivers, etch on ppc |
| 23:52.26 | abrotman | kfogel: that last one actually has zh-cn and zh-tw |
| 23:52.54 | kfogel | abrotman: Oh, I can't send mail at the moment (for complex reasons involving a particular server being slashdotted, sigh). The mail I would have sent is here: http://pastebin.ca/867908 |
| 23:52.56 | karsten | abrotman: Irony: we've got one Windows, one Mac, and one Linux lappy at home. Movies get watched on Linux. |
| 23:52.59 | kfogel | abrotman: I'll check that kde page and see |
| 23:53.20 | kfogel | I mean coreutils. |
| 23:53.22 | abrotman | karsten: that's cause those macs get hot! |
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| 23:53.48 | karsten | kfogel: We can freenode it as well ;-) |
| 23:53.49 | abrotman | kfogel: i don't pretend to understand intricacies of the chinese language .. i can barely order wonton :) |
| 23:54.08 | abrotman | and i still can't damog to eat the peking duck :) |
| 23:54.10 | karsten | abrotman: Actually, it's 'coz I've got 1) better rez. and 2) a working DVD drive. |
| 23:54.15 | kfogel | abrotman: they both should say "wen" instead of "zu" (China and Taiwan use the same language, at least formally, and increasingly in practice as well) |
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| 23:54.28 | karsten | abrotman: If you get a double-order, it's twoton. |
| 23:54.36 | gonzaloaf | themill, thanks worked putting the exit 0 on the top of the prerm file |
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| 23:55.01 | swiceje | /usr/src/linux would be like the most likely spot for sources to be sitting right? |
| 23:55.05 | jetscreamer | ah so that just exits wherever it encounters it |
| 23:55.08 | jetscreamer | no |
| 23:55.14 | jetscreamer | /etc/apt/ |
| 23:55.15 | themill | gonzaloaf: ok. So now you've got *some* of that junk off your machine. But you're going to need to fix the stuffed up files. |
| 23:55.23 | jetscreamer | unless you mean linux-source |
| 23:55.34 | swiceje | I do mean that |
| 23:55.37 | karsten | kfogel: And conveniently enough, MSG gives me headaches. |
| 23:55.40 | jetscreamer | /usr/src |
| 23:56.06 | jetscreamer | you usually have to unbzip it if you just installed the package |
| 23:56.07 | kfogel | karsten: same here. And they use it everywhere in China, too; it was one of the first things I learned how to say. |
| 23:56.22 | gonzaloaf | themill, how do I know what files have been stuffed up? |
| 23:56.30 | swiceje | i just did that, think I should soft link the directory to /usr/src/linux ?? |
| 23:56.37 | karsten | kfogel: I know how to say "ATM" in Chinese. |
| 23:57.09 | jetscreamer | you can, i never 'need' to though |
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| 23:57.47 | kfogel | abrotman: when my mail-sending setup is back on line I'll send that mail. |
| 23:57.51 | swiceje | did your proxima bulb just blow abrotman? |
| 23:57.52 | kfogel | thanks for your guidance |
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| 23:59.44 | fishy | partition-problem @ mips-install fixed. Thanks to all that helped! |
