| 00:00.12 | rasher | abrotman: That'd just be clutter, since #454777 is already there. |
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| 00:00.24 | edico | hello |
| 00:00.39 | abrotman | rasher: okay .. well you know how to fix your issue |
| 00:00.48 | edico | where I can find a tutorial for configure X fonts? |
| 00:01.07 | wols | RichiH: you will be a big company, so I wouldn't worry |
| 00:02.47 | wols | however, a hostile upload will be make him one of two things: rais a big stink with other DDs _or_ will just wash his hands of the package |
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| 00:07.25 | jelly-home | wols: some DDs are more reasonable. NMU of joe 3.1 went altogether rather well |
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| 00:09.14 | AloSmart | HI all |
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| 00:09.51 | themill | It would actually be a new package anyway, so it wouldn't strictly be an NMU. But the maintainer of the previous releases would probably feel that it should be his package. |
| 00:10.07 | AloSmart | how do u run a load balancer on debian? |
| 00:10.19 | AloSmart | like a proxy or somthing |
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| 00:10.53 | AloSmart | i have a web server in france and i would like to send the traffic from USA to the server in USA ... |
| 00:10.59 | AloSmart | how do i do that |
| 00:11.00 | AloSmart | ? |
| 00:11.52 | RichiH | abrotman: if you want on the CC, say so now |
| 00:12.10 | RichiH | abrotman: and no, i don't care if he hates me |
| 00:12.14 | abrotman | RichiH: going to a list or a bug? |
| 00:12.17 | RichiH | wols: ? |
| 00:12.20 | RichiH | abrotman: all bugs |
| 00:12.31 | abrotman | RichiH: i can read there |
| 00:12.34 | wols | RichiH: hm? |
| 00:12.41 | wols | RichiH: just tell us the bug # |
| 00:12.57 | jelly-home | RichiH: you doing a NMU, or just writing a nice reply? |
| 00:13.09 | abrotman | nice .. heh |
| 00:13.11 | jelly-home | to say, #403237 |
| 00:13.44 | RichiH | abrotman: i am pondering to CC debian-devel |
| 00:13.58 | RichiH | jelly-home: i can't do a nmu |
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| 00:14.16 | abrotman | RichiH: i'm not sure if it would be more appropriate for -devel or the tech-ctte people .. though i don't know the content of the email yet :) |
| 00:14.42 | RichiH | abrotman: it is relatively nice |
| 00:15.07 | streuner | RichiH: nmu's are very unusual, only in case the maint. isnt available |
| 00:15.13 | RichiH | ah, what the hell, i will send it to the bugs and if i feel a need, i can still send it to the lists |
| 00:15.26 | abrotman | oh .. i thouhgt there was a tech-ctte list .. but i can't find it |
| 00:15.35 | RichiH | streuner: letting a library sit there for a year+ is also unusuable |
| 00:15.46 | Dark_Apostrophe | babilen: Hey |
| 00:15.47 | abrotman | oh well |
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| 00:16.30 | Dark_Apostrophe | Can anyone help me with an NFS issue? |
| 00:16.41 | Dark_Apostrophe | I can't access external hard drives on another computer via NFS |
| 00:16.50 | jelly-home | RichiH: you could try and see if 2.8 unblocks the blocked bugs. When you have hard numbers, it'll be easier to force the issue if the need arise |
| 00:16.51 | wols | themill: are you a dd? |
| 00:17.02 | Dark_Apostrophe | when using that computer directly, I can access the drives as user |
| 00:17.20 | abrotman | oh .. it's debian-ctte: Debian Technical Committee |
| 00:17.21 | Dark_Apostrophe | But when accessing them via NFS, it claims root owns them and hence I can't access them |
| 00:17.24 | yoluca | jelly-home, xingu try this " mplayer -vf expand=:-100::2 /your_movie_file.avi" |
| 00:17.32 | themill | wols: no, but have been working on a few packages which are approaching sponsorship |
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| 00:17.38 | yoluca | hats what im talking about |
| 00:17.40 | yoluca | :) |
| 00:18.03 | RichiH | jelly-home: it blocks 7 of 7 bugs |
| 00:18.13 | RichiH | jelly-home: i will add that, thanks |
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| 00:19.54 | yoluca | jelly-home hard to belive ? |
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| 00:20.24 | Dark_Apostrophe | Can anyone give me a hand please? :) |
| 00:20.29 | maybeway36 | k |
| 00:20.34 | yoluca | just run that command and then keep your eyes on the subtitle .. see where that is :)) |
| 00:20.44 | wols | !tell Dark_Apostrophe about ask |
| 00:20.48 | yigal | is anyone here using mutt with gmail as imap and another imap server? |
| 00:20.56 | wols | !tell yigal about anyone |
| 00:21.02 | yoluca | :) |
| 00:21.03 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: I already asked the question |
| 00:21.07 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: Scroll half a page up |
| 00:21.12 | Dark_Apostrophe | Didn't wanna repeat it. |
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| 00:21.23 | yoluca | lol |
| 00:21.23 | Pelo | evening folks |
| 00:21.29 | yigal | wols: sorry |
| 00:21.38 | maybeway36 | hi |
| 00:21.38 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: your error description is worth shit all. and since you are not here for the first day, you know it |
| 00:21.43 | wols | yigal: the same goes for you |
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| 00:21.50 | Pelo | can someone walk me through doing this - > Setup a spooldirectory without printfilter. Serialport baudrate must be 9600. |
| 00:21.51 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: It's my first attempt at NFS. |
| 00:21.55 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: I'm a noob at it. |
| 00:21.57 | jelly-home | yoluca: a nice hack |
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| 00:22.06 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: you are a noob at asking sensible questions |
| 00:22.12 | yoluca | jelly-home thats nice isnt it ? |
| 00:22.26 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: and since asking questions here is nothing you are new at, it's worth commenting on |
| 00:22.26 | ryx | How do I install the nvidia-driver with a 2.6.22-kernel? |
| 00:22.33 | jelly-home | yoluca: need to figure out how to center the real picture, though |
| 00:22.34 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: When I know much about what I'm asking about, I can ask good questions. |
| 00:22.36 | yigal | I am having problems setting mutt with multiple imap servers, one server being gmail |
| 00:22.38 | wols | !tell ryx about nvidia |
| 00:23.03 | yoluca | jelly-home well i alwasy use " e and w " keys |
| 00:23.07 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: I can for example ask how to tell ALSA which model to use for a particular driver. |
| 00:23.11 | jelly-home | yoluca: it gets moved up in the fullscreen |
| 00:23.17 | RichiH | sent |
| 00:23.19 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: But I know almost nothing about NFS. |
| 00:23.34 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: Hence, asking good questions about it isn't exactly easy |
| 00:23.38 | wols | !tell Dark_Apostrophe about smart questions |
| 00:23.50 | ryx | wols: I've been that far. 2.6.22? |
| 00:23.54 | Dark_Apostrophe | You love that bot, don't you, wols? :P |
| 00:24.07 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: your ISSUE has nothing to do with NFS but inability to state a problem. now read ESR's blabbering and gaw away until you did |
| 00:24.14 | yoluca | jelly-home works fine here ... the movie its up a bit but the sub still under ... e and w does the trick |
| 00:24.15 | wols | ryx: yes |
| 00:24.27 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: ESR is a nutjob. |
| 00:24.34 | wols | ryx: you are running lenny? |
| 00:24.41 | ryx | then how do I tell aptitude not to install 2.6.18 when installing nvidia-kernel-source? |
| 00:24.44 | ryx | yes |
| 00:24.46 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: he's an idiot. you have something in common me thinks |
| 00:24.54 | Penix | heh |
| 00:24.58 | biopyte | hi folks. i have a problem mounting the usb-stick via gnome desktop <rolleyes>. the stick was mounted read-only this time, but never before. so i tried to change the mount options via the sticks preferences. however i screwed it up with a option not recognized, and now i cant mount that stupid stick at all. how can i reset this stupid behaviour? |
| 00:24.59 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: Wow... that's taking rudeness to the next level. |
| 00:25.09 | wols | ryx: what nvidia card/chip? |
| 00:25.10 | themill | Dark_Apostrophe: and yet after all the lines you have used up here, still no-one knows what you are actually asking about. |
| 00:25.14 | ryx | 8600GT |
| 00:25.31 | Dark_Apostrophe | themill: I hardly know anything about NFS - how am I supposed to know what specifically to ask? |
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| 00:25.41 | wols | ryx: that driver you're trying (from etch) won't work for you. you will need to do a backport from sid |
| 00:25.49 | wols | !tell ryx about simple sid backport |
| 00:25.51 | k-man | is there any known issues with installing the nvidia drivers with 2.6.24? |
| 00:26.04 | Dark_Apostrophe | themill: Themill, I mounted an export, which on the server is /media |
| 00:26.04 | wols | !tell k-man about bts |
| 00:26.15 | biopyte | reboot didnt help. there is no entry in fstab. where else does the gnome system store information about my usb-stick? |
| 00:26.17 | Dark_Apostrophe | themill: I did so in order to be able to access the three external hard drives I have mounted in /media |
| 00:26.36 | wols | biopyte: gnome-volume-manager somewhere |
| 00:26.45 | Dark_Apostrophe | themill: When I mount the NFS drive, I can see all the external hard drives in /media |
| 00:26.47 | biopyte | wols: aha |
| 00:26.53 | k-man | wols, do you think it would be under nvidia or the kernel package? |
| 00:26.55 | Dark_Apostrophe | But accessing them is impossible, because they're owned by root |
| 00:26.58 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: you need to export the mountpoints themselves |
| 00:27.03 | RichiH | abrotman, jelly-home, wols: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403237 |
| 00:27.07 | wols | k-man: no clue |
| 00:27.11 | Dark_Apostrophe | However, when I'm using the server directly, they are accessible by the user |
| 00:27.17 | wols | ryx: thanks |
| 00:27.19 | Penix | k-man: how old is .24? a few days? |
| 00:27.31 | jelly-home | RichiH: it presses refresh button |
| 00:27.32 | wols | Penix: sid has it |
| 00:27.33 | Dark_Apostrophe | jelly-home: But the problem with that is that I move them around, so they get different mountpoints |
| 00:27.34 | k-man | Penix, i believe so |
| 00:27.45 | wols | Penix: you're not really surprised that it'S a sid problem are you? |
| 00:27.46 | RichiH | jelly-home: 'it'? ;) |
| 00:27.49 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: you need to reexpport them. That's how nfs works |
| 00:27.58 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hrm... complicated. |
| 00:28.03 | k-man | i just compiled and installed 2.6.24, then when i tried to install the nvidia modules, it gets a compile error |
| 00:28.14 | Dark_Apostrophe | jelly-home: Ok, thanks... I'll try to figure it out. |
| 00:28.16 | jelly-home | RichiH: it's about as dumb as /me |
| 00:28.34 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: or don't move them around |
| 00:28.53 | wols | k-man: debian nvidia packages |
| 00:28.54 | wols | ? |
| 00:28.56 | Dark_Apostrophe | jelly-home: What's the point of external hard drives if not to be able to move them around? |
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| 00:29.04 | abrotman | RichiH: i suspect your house will burn tonight :) |
| 00:29.06 | k-man | wols, yeah |
| 00:29.12 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: don't move the _mountpoints_ around |
| 00:29.24 | Dark_Apostrophe | KDE does that automatically, I think. |
| 00:29.30 | themill | RichiH: nice one |
| 00:29.30 | Dark_Apostrophe | I use KDE's automounter to mount them... |
| 00:29.46 | k-man | wols, i used m-a autoinstall nvidia |
| 00:29.57 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: KDE's? Oh, you probably mean hal. |
| 00:30.02 | Dark_Apostrophe | Yep |
| 00:30.20 | RichiH | abrotman: ah, i doubt that |
| 00:30.43 | RichiH | themill: thanks. i wanted to write about two times as much, but that would mostly have been bashing him and that is not what i wanted |
| 00:30.55 | themill | :) |
| 00:30.59 | abrotman | RichiH: i still suspect nothing will happen |
| 00:31.02 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: a nice, clean way to do it would be to set up a hal rule to update /etc/exports and reload nfs-kernel-server. I have absolutely no idea how to do that. |
| 00:31.15 | Dark_Apostrophe | haha, that doesn't get me far, then :P |
| 00:31.15 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: I'd work around it with a cronjob. |
| 00:31.21 | wols | !teöö k-man about errors |
| 00:31.31 | Dark_Apostrophe | I'm far less knowledgeable than you, jelly-home |
| 00:31.32 | wols | !tell k-man about errors |
| 00:31.38 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: Swede? |
| 00:31.44 | wols | german |
| 00:32.00 | k-man | wols, i'm just about to put the error up on a pastebin... just got to find the log |
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| 00:32.14 | themill | Dark_Apostrophe: Not mounting the disks via the gui would be a better solution. Then the exports will be stable. |
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| 00:32.39 | Dark_Apostrophe | themill: But then they're only accessible by root |
| 00:33.02 | themill | Dark_Apostrophe: no they're not. Stick them in fstab |
| 00:33.05 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: general idea: set up a cronjob that runs every 5 minutes. the script would make note of stuff that is mounted in /media, update exports file and reload the service if there are changes |
| 00:33.07 | RichiH | abrotman: the last time that topic was up on debian-devel, AJ and other large apes said it should be NMU'ed and it is blocking seven packages |
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| 00:33.23 | abrotman | RichiH: and that was how long ago? |
| 00:33.24 | k-man | hmm.. is there a command line tool that can post something on pastebin.ca? |
| 00:33.25 | biopyte | wols: i checked the gnome-volume-manager, but couldnt find anything that would help with the usbstick. any idea? do you where the config fiees of the gvm are? |
| 00:33.32 | biopyte | know |
| 00:33.36 | Dark_Apostrophe | jelly-home: I hardly know basic BASH scripting... :/ |
| 00:33.38 | themill | !tell k-man about pastebin pipe |
| 00:33.46 | wols | biopyte: nope., sorry |
| 00:33.54 | k-man | is there anything that dpkg doesn't know? |
| 00:33.57 | k-man | hehe |
| 00:34.03 | wols | biopyte: what exactly is your problem with the usb? |
| 00:34.11 | themill | k-man: no ;) |
| 00:34.15 | matholio | Hi all, I'd like to generate a large file, of random data for some testing. I thought this would work : dd if=/dev/random of=rand10M bs=1M count=10 |
| 00:34.25 | matholio | but nothing seems to be created. |
| 00:34.32 | wols | k-man: it NEVER knows the future debian release dates. very annoying that |
| 00:34.33 | matholio | or at least the size is 0 bytes. |
| 00:34.36 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: you have to start somewhere, it's a goos thing to have in CV! |
| 00:34.48 | wols | matholio: use urandom instead |
| 00:34.56 | themill | jelly-home: that sounds like a horrible hack. |
| 00:35.03 | Dark_Apostrophe | jelly-home: I'm anemic... Whenever I try to learn something as tedious as a programming lingo, I tend to fall asleep. |
| 00:35.04 | wols | matholio: of course it's not really random anymore but that can't be helped |
| 00:35.19 | jelly-home | Dark_Apostrophe: pay someone to do it, dunno |
| 00:35.19 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: erythropoetin |
| 00:35.21 | Dark_Apostrophe | jelly-home: I've tried to learn bash before, along with python... |
| 00:35.28 | matholio | wols: thank, works a treat. |
| 00:35.31 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: What? |
| 00:35.33 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: what is your hematocrite (sp?) level? |
| 00:35.40 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: I don't want to use any medicine. |
| 00:35.46 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: No bleepin' clue. |
| 00:35.50 | k-man | wols, ah... so its powers are limited only to seeing into the future? |
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| 00:36.00 | biopyte | wols: it was always automounted without problems. somehow it mounte readonly today. i wanted to change that via the properties menu of the stick on the desktop. that failed. now the system refuses to automount the stick at all. |
| 00:36.00 | wols | then don't claim you're anemic but say you are lazy |
| 00:36.20 | jelly-home | themill: even if the mount points were static, he'd still have to reload nfs-kernel-server when a fs would get mounted/umounted |
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| 00:36.49 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: I'm not that severely anemic, only enough to constantly make me sleepy, and when I am asleep, cause me to wake up all the time |
| 00:36.56 | themill | jelly-home: true.... user-plugging and root-exporting are somewhat at odds with each other. |
| 00:37.06 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: My doctor said I was anemic... I'll take her word for it. |
| 00:37.37 | wols | Dark_Apostrophe: unless you have the blood samples to back it up it's a BS diagnosis |
| 00:37.41 | biopyte | wols: rebooting didnt help. somehow gnome stored the information that it will not mount the stick with the (wrong) options i passed to the preferences. |
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| 00:37.55 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: She did take a blood sample |
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| 00:37.59 | Tar-Get | hi |
| 00:38.21 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: Printed out some paper about how much iron I have in my blood and whatnot... Didn't really understand it |
| 00:38.35 | wols | iron is easy to get, very easy |
| 00:38.38 | alien | i thoguht all apostorphes were dark =) |
| 00:38.49 | abrotman | wtf |
| 00:38.54 | Dark_Apostrophe | wols: I know, I'm using iron pills, they don't do jack |
| 00:39.03 | Tar-Get | I have 2 identical network cards in my pc, one is working and the other one not |
| 00:39.05 | alien | iron pills? |
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| 00:39.19 | alien | Tar-Get: get a new one and replace non working |
| 00:39.19 | Tar-Get | I get the following error: SIOCADDRT: No such process |
| 00:39.19 | Tar-Get | Failed to bring up eth2. |
| 00:39.20 | wols | alien: yes, fun with your digestive system |
| 00:39.38 | alien | ayayyaa iron pils? i gota look up |
| 00:39.45 | wols | Tar-Get: pastebin your interfaces file, your lspci output and the output of /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 00:39.50 | alien | Tar-Get: same configs just reinserting different cards |
| 00:39.59 | alien | damn wols is full speed! |
| 00:40.34 | alien | dont iron pills mess u up? |
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| 00:41.21 | wols | no |
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| 00:41.52 | k-man | this is the error i get when i try and install the nvidia kernel module http://pastebin.ca/889572 |
| 00:41.54 | Tar-Get | wols: where can I find my interfaces file? |
| 00:42.05 | wols | man interfaces |
| 00:42.17 | alien | Tar-Get: nano /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 00:42.36 | screamingbytes | afternoon all |
| 00:42.40 | alien | if u dont know where that is, im sure its not a faulty card =) |
| 00:42.47 | alien | good day screamingbytes |
| 00:44.10 | alien | im no good with linux but i run debian server, personal =) and feed off of that |
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| 00:44.22 | Tar-Get | here is the paste of the asked output: http://pastebin.com/m13409d2d |
| 00:44.26 | alien | noooo its the craiggs list guyy |
| 00:44.48 | metaperl_ | How do I find out which sound system I am using? |
| 00:45.02 | abrotman | see which modules are loaded |
| 00:45.17 | biopyte | wols: found it. its via the 'computer' icon on the desktop. |
| 00:46.05 | RichiH | abrotman: a good month |
| 00:46.13 | RichiH | abrotman: after that, it died |
| 00:46.18 | metaperl_ | since snd_mixer_oss is loaded. I assume OSS |
| 00:46.24 | RichiH | abrotman: but repetition is key, i guess |
| 00:46.25 | abrotman | RichiH: just a month ago ? |
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| 00:46.37 | wols | Tar-Get: does it ping properly? |
| 00:46.38 | RichiH | abrotman: feel free to email the thread on debian-devel, as well |
| 00:46.46 | wols | cause from what I can see both are assigned the IPs you gave them |
| 00:46.48 | RichiH | reply to* |
| 00:46.53 | abrotman | RichiH: they'd just laugh at me |
| 00:47.03 | Tar-Get | wols: I can't get the interface up |
| 00:47.12 | Tar-Get | Failed to bring up eth2 |
| 00:47.30 | wols | metaperl_: no. you use alsa but have the emulation layer for oss loaded |
| 00:47.30 | alien | Tar-Get: show him the error aswell in pastebin |
| 00:47.41 | alien | whole 9 yards |
| 00:47.53 | wols | Tar-Get: run simply "ifconfig" |
| 00:48.03 | wols | Tar-Get: do eth1 and eth2 show then? |
| 00:48.10 | wols | also check your kernel log |
| 00:48.32 | alien | whats in the kernel log? |
| 00:48.40 | alien | most imp most updated? log of everything being done? |
| 00:48.49 | alien | id like to knwo how to get there =) |
| 00:49.05 | k-man | so anway, has anyone had an error like the following when trying to install the nvidia drivers in 2.6.24? http://pastebin.ca/889572 |
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| 00:49.16 | k-man | or have any idea how i might fix it? |
| 00:49.20 | wols | k-man: possibly try another gcc |
| 00:49.24 | wols | another gcc version |
| 00:49.35 | k-man | wols, oh? which version? |
| 00:49.42 | wols | k-man: apart from that, you run sid. aren't you supposed to solve your own problems? |
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| 00:50.18 | k-man | wols, maybe... but does that mean your not allowed to ask if anyone else has encountered it? |
| 00:50.18 | Tar-Get | here is the output of dmesg and the output of ifup -a: http://pastebin.com/m78c4396c |
| 00:50.35 | alien | lol |
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| 00:51.17 | Tailsfan | can you install KDE with the Debian DVDs? |
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| 00:51.40 | wols | Tailsfan: yes |
| 00:52.02 | Tailsfan | OK, Cool |
| 00:52.07 | wols | or wait. dunno if there is a installdvd. but there IS a install CD for kde |
| 00:52.14 | themill | !tell Tailsfan about install kde |
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| 00:52.31 | Tramp | Tar-Get: I doubt that the default-GW for eth2 can be eth1 - nor sure, but I never saw this. Also it doesn't make sense to me. I would guess the error you see comes from trying to set this weird default-GW |
| 00:53.12 | wols | Tramp: well spotted |
| 00:53.30 | wols | Tar-Get: you only have ONE default gw |
| 00:53.33 | RichiH | abrotman: and? |
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| 00:53.44 | Tramp | wols: yeah - had to check his pastebin twice 8) |
| 00:53.59 | abrotman | RichiH: it'd be justified :) .. i think the DDs that care know the situation |
| 00:54.21 | Tar-Get | indeed |
| 00:54.36 | Tar-Get | both interfaces are up now |
| 00:54.42 | Tar-Get | thanks! |
| 00:54.48 | RichiH | abrotman: so? they will probably still want moral support as there are high social barriers |
| 00:55.01 | abrotman | RichiH: the DDs will ? |
| 00:55.09 | RichiH | yes |
| 00:55.19 | RichiH | most of them are human |
| 00:55.23 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:55.31 | RichiH | some are soulless killbots of doom, granted |
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| 00:55.46 | RichiH | made of metal shavies and cookie dough |
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| 00:55.58 | wols | RichiH: you tempt me to become a DD |
| 00:56.18 | RichiH | wols: that is actually a long-term goal of mine |
| 00:56.41 | wols | becoming a soulless killbot of doom? congrats for your ambition |
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| 00:57.09 | hellues | hey |
| 00:57.13 | hellues | http://paste.debian.net/48314 |
| 00:57.18 | hellues | look at here pls |
| 00:57.38 | hellues | i cannot connect any netwerok in here |
| 00:57.46 | FiendishFish | If anyone is interested in building up the channel ##nmap, join. |
| 00:57.48 | hellues | someone has solution |
| 00:57.52 | DustyBin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT_ZGfnwDCM <-- anyone recognize this guy? |
| 00:58.28 | wols | FiendishFish: we are very uninterested in spammers. so stop it please |
| 00:58.32 | metaperl_ | any tips on boosting the sound of a microphone input? I can hear it via a Skype test call, but it is faint... |
| 00:58.42 | hellues | ??? |
| 00:59.13 | hellues | http://paste.debian.net/48314 |
| 00:59.27 | jelly-home | !tell hellues -about repeat |
| 00:59.41 | abrotman | hellues: have you heard of Ubuntu? |
| 01:00.20 | hellues | ubuntu what |
| 01:01.40 | hellues | what do you say about protwork manger nm-applet doesnt workblem in wirless and ne |
| 01:02.52 | abrotman | english please |
| 01:03.30 | hellues | abrotman, |
| 01:03.39 | hellues | pls look at http://paste.debian.net/48314 |
| 01:03.56 | abrotman | no |
| 01:04.08 | themill | !tr |
| 01:04.09 | dpkg | from memory, tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian-tr (irc.oftc.net / irc.debian.org): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
| 01:04.18 | hellues | what no |
| 01:04.26 | dejones | Is there a way I can set my fan to turn on for a lower temperature on my Toshiba laptop? |
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| 01:04.51 | amphi | dejones: look at linux-laptop.net or tuxmobil.org for laptop info |
| 01:04.58 | dejones | amphi: thanks |
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| 01:05.21 | themill | dejones: there's a set of tools called toshset (or similar too). Never used 'em though. |
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| 01:06.40 | dejones | themill: yea.. I read the website for toshset, and it appears that you need some experimental patch to use toshset with ACPI... |
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| 01:07.06 | themill | there's a debian package for it, implying that it is vaguely usable... |
| 01:07.39 | yzaLyzarC | Where can I get an easy chattbot? |
| 01:07.53 | themill | dejones: there's also toshutils that *does* need kernel support. |
| 01:08.14 | yzaLyzarC | Like the !tell yzaLyzarC about debian |
| 01:08.24 | abrotman | !tell yzaLyzarC about blootbot |
| 01:08.29 | abrotman | that's not a chatbot |
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| 01:09.06 | real0ne | i want names for AV on debian |
| 01:09.21 | abrotman | !clamav |
| 01:09.21 | dpkg | clamav is, like, a widely used free(GPL/FLOSS) antivirus software toolkit for Unix-like operating systems. It is mainly used with a mail exchange server as a server-side email virus scanner. apt-get install avscan; for a gtk+ gui. ClamAV can be configured to automatically update its list of virus definitions via the Internet. Both ClamAV itself and the updates are made available free of charge. http://www.clamav.net |
| 01:10.13 | real0ne | without it |
| 01:10.14 | metaperl_ | Is there simple app under the OSS sound system that can give graphical feedback on volume of the mic in? |
| 01:10.37 | yzaLyzarC | abrotman: What is it then? |
| 01:10.44 | abrotman | the bot just told you what it was |
| 01:10.50 | yzaLyzarC | what is its real name? |
| 01:11.06 | jelly-home | yzaLyzarC: blootbot. |
| 01:11.10 | abrotman | metaperl_: amixer i think |
| 01:11.38 | real0ne | why i have this |
| 01:11.39 | real0ne | Atteint http://ftp.fr.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Packages |
| 01:11.39 | real0ne | 18,7ko réceptionnés en 5s (3300o/s) |
| 01:11.39 | real0ne | Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait |
| 01:11.39 | real0ne | W: GPG error: http://ftp.fr.debian.org stable/non-US Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu être vérifiées car la clé publique n'est pas disponible : NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D |
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| 01:11.49 | metaperl_ | amixer sounds like an ALSA tool |
| 01:11.49 | abrotman | i can think of a few reasons |
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| 01:12.06 | yzaLyzarC | Do I have to compile anything? |
| 01:12.08 | abrotman | metaperl_: hrm .. i used to use a mixer |
| 01:12.23 | abrotman | metaperl_: ah .. aumix |
| 01:12.32 | jelly-home | real0ne: have you read the topic lately? |
| 01:12.34 | metaperl_ | amixer just gave text feedback... ok i'll try aumix |
| 01:13.00 | real0ne | ok |
| 01:13.19 | real0ne | jelly-home i have a small errors |
| 01:13.19 | abrotman | !fr |
| 01:13.20 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur irc.debian.org ou irc.freenode.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.debian.org or irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:13.27 | real0ne | i paste it to u |
| 01:13.28 | real0ne | ok? |
| 01:13.38 | jelly-home | not ok. |
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| 01:13.56 | jelly-home | use the channel for 1-2 lines; use a pastebin for more |
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| 01:14.24 | jelly-home | real0ne: use the topic to solve the "public key not available" issue |
| 01:14.33 | wols | !u |
| 01:14.33 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:14.44 | real0ne | lol |
| 01:14.50 | real0ne | i want help |
| 01:14.58 | real0ne | not blabla |
| 01:15.01 | abrotman | you just got your answer |
| 01:15.05 | m0u5e | real0ne: don't we all :( |
| 01:15.12 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.13 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 01:15.17 | jelly-home | that's what she said |
| 01:15.18 | m0u5e | bwanhahaha |
| 01:15.22 | metaperl_ | is ESD a differnt sound system? or just something to aid the use of OSS? |
| 01:15.27 | m0u5e | !stallman |
| 01:15.27 | dpkg | methinks stallman is an arrogant self-serving hypocritical closed-minded wanker, or rms, or ask me abour rms |
| 01:15.27 | abrotman | !esd |
| 01:15.28 | dpkg | esd is, like, the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox, or an EarSoreDaemon |
| 01:15.36 | m0u5e | !rms |
| 01:15.37 | dpkg | hmm... rms is Richard M. Stallman |
| 01:15.44 | m0u5e | !vrms |
| 01:15.44 | dpkg | i guess vrms is The Virtual Richard M. Stallman for Debian GNU/Linux, now included with every fresh potato! Good for sniffing out those pesky <non-free> software... apt-get install vrms, or now more accurate than the real rms in some situations such as gdb-doc and emacs21-doc :) |
| 01:15.49 | wols_ | m0u5e: stop it |
| 01:15.49 | abrotman | m0u5e: try #debian-bots |
| 01:15.55 | themill | !tell m0u5e about msg the bot |
| 01:15.55 | ``y7 | how do i tell if my hd is partioned as ext3 or ntfs? |
| 01:16.11 | jelly-home | m0u5e: esd is an addition, usually on top of oss, right |
| 01:16.12 | wols_ | ``y7: nonsensical question |
| 01:16.18 | abrotman | jelly-home: misfire |
| 01:16.32 | m0u5e | i think so? :X |
| 01:16.33 | jelly-home | fuck |
| 01:16.46 | jelly-home | metaperl_: esd is an addition, usually on top of oss, right |
| 01:17.00 | jelly-home | m0u5e: sorry for that |
| 01:17.03 | m0u5e | ``y7: type df -h |
| 01:17.16 | metaperl_ | How do I change my sound system from OSS to ALSA? Could this possibly get my microphone input working? |
| 01:17.25 | abrotman | !tell metaperl_ about alsa one-liner |
| 01:17.45 | metaperl_ | !alsa |
| 01:17.45 | jelly-home | metaperl_: if you are on etch, you're probably already using alsa. |
| 01:17.45 | wols_ | metaperl_: what debian version |
| 01:17.45 | dpkg | ALSA is the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. Debian has documentation at http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA or see <alsa install> or <alsa-checklist> |
| 01:17.45 | m0u5e | ``y7: type df -t (oops not h) |
| 01:17.51 | metaperl_ | I am on etch, |
| 01:17.59 | metaperl_ | but lsmod showed snd_oss |
| 01:18.00 | wols_ | then there is no oss for you to install |
| 01:18.02 | abrotman | metaperl_: see what the bot told you in /msg |
| 01:18.03 | m0u5e | gah, i mean T (capital) |
| 01:18.12 | wols_ | metaperl_: I already told you it'S the oss emulation from alsa |
| 01:18.16 | metaperl_ | oh |
| 01:18.17 | jelly-home | metaperl_: did lsmod show _any_ snd stuff? |
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| 01:18.19 | m0u5e | ``y7: df -T |
| 01:18.27 | m0u5e | oops :( |
| 01:18.28 | ``y7 | k, ty |
| 01:18.38 | metaperl_ | jelly-home: yes, it did... |
| 01:19.00 | metaperl_ | the listening part of my headset works fine, I just cant seem to say anything and have linux hear it? |
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| 01:20.03 | themill | metaperl_: you probably have to select the correct mic channel in the mixer. There are often separate mute switches for different inputs or even a toggle for "mic"/"front mic". |
| 01:20.03 | yoluca | where are iceweasel bookmarks saved ? |
| 01:20.11 | jelly-home | metaperl_: run alsamixer in a terminal. press F4. is there anything like "mic boost" or "front mic boot" present? |
| 01:20.29 | abrotman | ~/.mozilla/ |
| 01:20.34 | yoluca | for firefox are in ~/firefox/default .... but no iceweasel |
| 01:20.34 | abrotman | somewhere under there |
| 01:20.49 | themill | yoluca: ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.XXXXX/bookmarks.html |
| 01:21.10 | yoluca | yeah , got it thanks |
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| 01:21.36 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 01:21.57 | abrotman | does he every say anything other than hello or goodbye ? |
| 01:22.18 | abrotman | ever |
| 01:22.24 | themill | nope |
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| 01:22.54 | jelly-home | true to the form |
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| 01:23.23 | drwahl | i am working on compiling the rtl-wifi drivers for my laptop, and when i try to run 'make' it returns with the error "Nothing to be done for 'modlules'." |
| 01:23.28 | tinman | I am planning to install debian, but I have a slow connection, so I only want the basic stuff to start with and install more later, any tips where I should start reading? |
| 01:23.56 | yzaLyzarC | Why dont apt-get mysql work? |
| 01:24.04 | jelly-home | drwahl: if that's a correct paste for the error, then the Makefile has a typo |
| 01:24.16 | jelly-home | drwahl: s/modlules/modules/ |
| 01:24.55 | jelly-home | yzaLyzarC: man apt-get |
| 01:24.56 | drwahl | jelly-home: ah, the makefile came with from the svn checkout. i will see if i can manually find the error |
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| 01:25.16 | nekostar | going offline for a bit |
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| 01:26.15 | Daveman | :) |
| 01:26.17 | jelly-home | yzaLyzarC: also, /msg dpkg refcard |
| 01:27.35 | jelly-home | yzaLyzarC: you will notice that "apt-get mysql" command isn't mentioned on the reference card, or in the manual |
| 01:27.41 | drwahl | jelly-home: the makefile is rather small only containing http://pastbin.com/m3f1ced28 |
| 01:27.56 | drwahl | so i'm not sure where it is having the issue... |
| 01:28.10 | yzaLyzarC | jelly-home: I meant apt-get install mysql, but since nobody answered I asked dpkg |
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| 01:30.39 | jelly-home | drwahl: me neither, it looks sane. the "modlules" was obviously a typo on your part |
| 01:31.02 | drwahl | err, now i see what you are saying... :) |
| 01:31.07 | jelly-home | drwahl: as was "pastbin.com" btw |
| 01:31.14 | drwahl | any other ideas why it might be giving this error? |
| 01:31.34 | amphi | drwahl: did you try doing a make clean first? |
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| 01:31.43 | jelly-home | drwahl: the modules are already built? make clean; make modules |
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| 01:32.52 | drwahl | make clean returns: |
| 01:32.54 | drwahl | make -C /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/build M=/home/drwahl/bin/rtl-wifi clean |
| 01:32.55 | drwahl | make[1]: Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/build' |
| 01:32.55 | drwahl | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. |
| 01:33.06 | drwahl | and make modules still returns the same thing |
| 01:33.30 | drwahl | same thing as before that is... |
| 01:35.42 | yzaLyzarC | How do I start an mysql server? |
| 01:36.06 | maxamillion | yzaLyzarC: do you have it installed? |
| 01:36.22 | drwahl | i am trying to install the rtl driver from the instructions found at http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Installing |
| 01:36.32 | yzaLyzarC | maxamillion: I belive it is! |
| 01:36.55 | maxamillion | yzaLyzarC: then there should be an init script for it in /etc/init.d/ |
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| 01:38.02 | yzaLyzarC | How can I check if it is running+ |
| 01:38.04 | yzaLyzarC | ? |
| 01:38.14 | amphi | drwahl: the tar.bz seems to make fine here; it doesn't complete, because it won't build against my kernel, looks like |
| 01:38.18 | maxamillion | yzaLyzarC: i imagine you would just do '/etc/init.d/mysqld start' to start it (as root) |
| 01:38.50 | maxamillion | yzaLyzarC: replace 'start' with 'status' to check if its running |
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| 01:39.52 | patrick-- | Hey, ive just formatted a drive with cfdisk. somehow it now has the fs type "linux"... how do i mount that type or even get it to ext3 |
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| 01:40.27 | yzaLyzarC | ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'status' |
| 01:41.05 | maxamillion | yzaLyzarC: did you type '/etc/init.d/mysqld status'? |
| 01:41.26 | maxamillion | or just 'mysqld status'? ... because they will each to drastically different things |
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| 01:42.02 | yzaLyzarC | I did cd /etc/init.d/mysql, then mysqld status |
| 01:42.23 | limpio | i just installed fluxbox in lenny, and the right-click debian menu is not there, anybody knows how to fix it? |
| 01:42.28 | drwahl | i was first trying the svn version, but i also downloaded the tarball, and here is the output from trying to isntall from the tar.gz http://pastebin.com/m5a6c9b8d |
| 01:42.37 | yzaLyzarC | I did mysql start. mysqld isnt there |
| 01:43.03 | maxamillion | oh ok |
| 01:43.10 | maxamillion | its been a while since i ran mysql |
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| 01:43.53 | drwahl | yzaLyzarC: do: ps aux | grep mysql |
| 01:43.56 | drwahl | and see what the output is |
| 01:44.35 | yzaLyzarC | Seams like it is running |
| 01:44.43 | yzaLyzarC | How to setup root password? |
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| 01:47.33 | notMax | yzaLyzarC: you have to set a root password when you install |
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| 01:47.37 | notMax | anyhoo ... bbl |
| 01:48.50 | drwahl | amphi: which kernel are you running and which tar.gz did you download? |
| 01:49.39 | amphi | drwahl: .24, http://www.hauke-m.de/fileadmin/rtl-wifi/rtl-wifi-20070729.tar.bz2 |
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| 01:51.43 | drwahl | man, it still just keeps complaining about 'nothing to be done for modules' |
| 01:54.09 | amphi | drwahl: make clean, make, and make modules all seem to work here (except the build errors out) |
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| 01:54.55 | drwahl | that is what's bugging me... there must be something on my machine that is causing it to error |
| 01:55.13 | amphi | drwahl: you're using that same tarball? |
| 01:55.18 | drwahl | make, make clean, and make modules all error for me at pretty much the same spot |
| 01:55.25 | drwahl | ya, i grabbed the same tarball |
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| 01:57.18 | Trollinator | drwahl: what driver are you compiling? |
| 01:57.25 | drwahl | rtl-wifi |
| 01:57.31 | drwahl | the realtek wifi drivers for 8187 |
| 01:57.41 | drwahl | its an internal usb wifi nic |
| 01:57.46 | drwahl | on a gateway t1616 |
| 01:57.47 | Trollinator | have you tried a .24 kernel? |
| 01:58.46 | drwahl | apt-get dist-upgrade in sid didnt grab the .24 kernel, and i will be handing this laptop back to my sister after i get this working, so i wanted to stay with relatively stable packages |
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| 01:59.06 | drwahl | but if the .24 kernel would fix my problem, then that might be what i need to do |
| 01:59.06 | Trollinator | drwahl: wait a minute please... |
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| 02:01.07 | liable | internal usb wifi? eek |
| 02:01.16 | Trollinator | hm, it doesn't compile here, too. |
| 02:01.19 | Trollinator | with .24 |
| 02:01.29 | yzaLyzarC | notMax: how do i make a new user? |
| 02:01.41 | liable | man adduser |
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| 02:01.54 | drwahl | Trollinator: are you getting similar errors? |
| 02:02.11 | drwahl | Trollinator: or are you getting to a different part of the build? |
| 02:02.21 | ajehals | Hi, I'm having issues with DV Firewire devices under Etch, the raw1394 kernel module and corresponding /dev/raw1394 node don't seem to exist, I cant seem to find any info on how to work around this. (Usual disclaimer that I have probably missed something, and that this was working about 6 months ago..) |
| 02:02.25 | Trollinator | what are you getting |
| 02:02.46 | Trollinator | anyway, i suggest that you install a .24 kernel and try the mac80211 based version |
| 02:02.48 | drwahl | make -C /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/build M=/home/drwahl/bin/rtl-wifi modules |
| 02:02.48 | drwahl | make[1]: Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/build' |
| 02:02.48 | drwahl | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop. |
| 02:03.05 | drwahl | then it leaves the dir and errors out with Make [2] error |
| 02:03.13 | Trollinator | drwahl: huh? what weird command is that? |
| 02:03.16 | liable | does build point to your headers? |
| 02:03.26 | greenpumpkins | what is irq #7 and why would my kernel just decide to disable it? |
| 02:03.52 | amphi | greenpumpkins: did you get a 'nobody cared' message? ;) |
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| 02:04.04 | Trollinator | drwahl: who told you that command |
| 02:04.28 | Trollinator | It looks *very* weird to me. |
| 02:04.31 | greenpumpkins | amphi: not yet today |
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| 02:04.57 | drwahl | Trollinator: that is what happens when i run "make" in the main dir of the tarball |
| 02:05.26 | amphi | greenpumpkins: in the kernel log, I mean - I've seen 'irqN: nobody cared, disabling irqN' messages before |
| 02:06.01 | Trollinator | drwahl: do you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed? |
| 02:06.15 | Trollinator | anyway, try this driver instead: http://www.hauke-m.de/fileadmin/rtl-wifi/rtl-mac80211-20070729.tar.bz2 |
| 02:06.48 | Trollinator | or install the .24 kernel. It should contain the rtl driver. |
| 02:06.50 | greenpumpkins | amphi: oh. nope it says nothing about caring |
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| 02:07.06 | Trollinator | it says that here at least: http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Mac80211 |
| 02:07.20 | amphi | greenpumpkins: what's on irq7 anyway? |
| 02:07.39 | greenpumpkins | amphi: i'm not even sure |
| 02:08.04 | drwahl | Trollinator: i will try the .24 kernel first, then the mac80211 driver |
| 02:08.09 | greenpumpkins | amphi: i think i'll try booting with the irq polling optionw though |
| 02:08.11 | Trollinator | go ahead. |
| 02:08.14 | amphi | greenpumpkins: cat /proc/interrupts give any clue? |
| 02:08.26 | amphi | greenpumpkins: that's a pretty bad option, I think |
| 02:09.00 | Trollinator | drwahl: yes, my kernel contains a rtl8187.ko. |
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| 02:09.02 | greenpumpkins | amphi: not permanentlyw of course. |
| 02:09.08 | Trollinator | It should "just work" with .24 |
| 02:09.28 | drwahl | Trollinator: rofl, sounds like the place for me to continue/restart this whole mess |
| 02:09.34 | greenpumpkins | amphi: it says ehci_hcd:usb2 |
| 02:09.36 | drwahl | thanks for helping with the research! |
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| 02:09.52 | amphi | greenpumpkins: which kernel? what machine? |
| 02:11.07 | greenpumpkins | amphi: it's 2.6.24 on an amd64 dual core |
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| 02:11.44 | amphi | greenpumpkins: I had something similar on .22 on a santa rosa c2d, but 2.4 seems to have fixed it |
| 02:12.52 | rue_mohr | ok, I went from 2.4 to 2.6-386 and the system tanked not only for the 2.6, but cant get at /dev/hda1 for 2.4, there was a warning I passed up during the upgrade that got overwritten by a log message, anyone know how I untank my system? |
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| 02:15.06 | greenpumpkins | amphi: interesting. i think i'll finish installing debian on it anyway, and see how it works |
| 02:16.19 | abrotman | rue_mohr: sata ? |
| 02:16.32 | rue_mohr | no ata100 |
| 02:17.41 | rue_mohr | I think I'm gonna have to tear it outa the rack and sit down with it, havng a monitor and keyboard sitting in the walkway isn't working |
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| 02:20.00 | liable | even some ata controllers got changed to sdx when going from 2.4 to 2.6 iirc |
| 02:20.09 | liable | or in revers |
| 02:20.11 | liable | e |
| 02:21.05 | liable | rue_mohr: you can try changing your root line in grub to see if the kernel gets further |
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| 02:21.24 | abrotman | rue_mohr: you using lilo or grub? and does 2.6 support your controller |
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| 02:29.06 | drwahl | i have been working on getting the rtl-wifi driver working, and i finally installed the .24 kernel and it looks like it has the modules, but i still do not see it in iwconfig |
| 02:29.11 | drwahl | where do i go from here? |
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| 02:29.32 | Aeroraptor | is there a mirror with old images? I'm looking for netinst-sparc-3.1 |
| 02:29.32 | liable | check dmesg after loading the module |
| 02:29.58 | liable | !archives |
| 02:29.59 | dpkg | archive is, like, a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Maybe: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive or even http://snapshot.debian.net, or http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 02:30.21 | Trollinator | drwahl: have you tried modprobe rtl8187? |
| 02:30.22 | Aeroraptor | thanks |
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| 02:30.47 | rue_mohr | abrotman, lilo |
| 02:30.57 | drwahl | Trollinator: yes |
| 02:31.02 | drwahl | and it still isnt in iwconfig |
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| 02:31.18 | rue_mohr | liable, not sata, so I suspect I shouldn't need root=sdx |
| 02:31.21 | drwahl | or ifconfig for that matter |
| 02:31.28 | Trollinator | even ifconfig -a |
| 02:31.29 | Trollinator | ? |
| 02:32.10 | liable | rue_mohr: even some pata drives were sdx and got changed when certain 2.6 kernels were released |
| 02:32.21 | drwahl | even ifconfig -a does not show the interface. dmesg states that it loaded the interface with that driver, but i do not see it anywhere |
| 02:32.30 | rue_mohr | ok, I'll give it a try |
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| 02:32.54 | rue_mohr | but wait no, the 2.4 kernel is dieing cause it cant access 0301 |
| 02:33.01 | rue_mohr | 2.6 dies with ... |
| 02:33.13 | Trollinator | drwahl: well, that's good news. |
| 02:33.28 | tailsfan | Hello There, I'm trying to install Virtualbox's guest Additions, but I'm getting a Permission Deined error, how do I fix this? |
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| 02:33.46 | rue_mohr | "out of memeory, kill softirqd" |
| 02:33.59 | drwahl | Trollinator: its the best news thus far :) but still not quite there... |
| 02:34.03 | Trollinator | drwahl: what exactly does dmesg say, i'm just curious |
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| 02:34.47 | drwahl | usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187 |
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| 02:36.35 | Trollinator | drwahl: i think you need to set an alias for that kernel module |
| 02:36.35 | liable | rue_mohr: oh, how much memory does the box have? its not like 32MB is it? |
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| 02:37.22 | drwahl | Trollinator: that gets a bit outside of my knowledge of things... is there a walkthrough for that somehwere, or is it a simple command i can run? |
| 02:38.30 | abrotman | rue_mohr: SMP machine ? |
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| 02:39.03 | Trollinator | echo "alias wlan0 rtl8187" >> /etc/modprobe.d/aliases |
| 02:39.11 | Trollinator | that might do the trick. |
| 02:39.12 | Seb | what's the lightest binary that can play a .wav ? |
| 02:39.16 | Seb | or at least a light one :) |
| 02:39.26 | Trollinator | Seb: perhaps alsaplayer |
| 02:39.38 | Trollinator | aplay, that is. |
| 02:40.21 | Trollinator | drwahl: I don't know how you commit that setting though. So just reboot after that command. |
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| 02:41.16 | drwahl | Trollinator: will do |
| 02:41.26 | Seb | Trollinator: thx ! |
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| 02:42.53 | squisher | Hi, my vpn interface doesn't transmit broadcasts... does anyone know how I can fix that? |
| 02:44.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | Seb: "cat" ? |
| 02:44.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | like in cat x.wav >/dev/dsp |
| 02:45.14 | squisher | CutMeOwnThroat, Seb, for alsa use aplay |
| 02:46.12 | Trollinator | drwahl: if you want me to help you further, then move faster please. |
| 02:46.21 | Trollinator | that is, reboot NOW. |
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| 02:46.48 | drwahl | Trollinator: i did reboot (twice actually) and it still doesnt seem to load the device, however, it did manage to drop the touchpad :) |
| 02:47.21 | Trollinator | drop the touchpad? |
| 02:47.33 | Trollinator | Well, that is very unfortunate... |
| 02:47.39 | drwahl | yup, it was working until i added that last line to the alias file |
| 02:47.52 | drwahl | i can work around not having a mouse for the time being |
| 02:48.15 | rue_mohr | liable, 16M |
| 02:48.27 | rue_mohr | abrotman, single vpu |
| 02:48.40 | abrotman | oh |
| 02:49.02 | drwahl | Trollinator: i just commented out that line that you had me add for the rtl8187 to see if that fixes the mouse, if so, maybe there is something messed up somewhere |
| 02:49.03 | rue_mohr | aybe the vfs dosn't fit in 16M? |
| 02:49.20 | Trollinator | that would be very strange. |
| 02:49.22 | drwahl | Trollinator: and the answer is no... commenting that out didnt fix the mouse |
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| 02:49.41 | drwahl | i'll get back to the mouse though... i think i can fix that on my own |
| 02:49.45 | drwahl | maybe :) |
| 02:50.53 | liable | rue_mohr: i think you need more than that for 2.6 i dont know the exact figure though |
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| 02:51.31 | Trollinator | Hm, i don't have an idea. |
| 02:51.42 | Trollinator | i do, actually. |
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| 02:51.48 | Trollinator | Run depmod -a |
| 02:51.53 | rue_mohr | I just jacked it up to 128 |
| 02:51.58 | rue_mohr | lets see... |
| 02:52.25 | drwahl | ok, anything after depmod -a? |
| 02:52.25 | rue_mohr | yaya! it boots |
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| 02:52.26 | rue_mohr | ! |
| 02:52.31 | rue_mohr | thanks! |
| 02:52.39 | rue_mohr | gee, 2.6 is a memory hog |
| 02:52.44 | rue_mohr | huh |
| 02:53.17 | rue_mohr | go custom rolled kernels! |
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| 02:53.39 | Trollinator | drwahl: perhaps reboot again... but i don't think that did the trick :/ |
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| 02:54.04 | drwahl | Trollinator: rebooting now.. |
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| 02:54.22 | tailsfan | OK, how do I fix the Read-Only File System error |
| 02:54.22 | abrotman | rue_mohr: even a custom 2.6 won't be much less .. the debian kernels are largely modular |
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| 02:54.40 | rue_mohr | yea, when I'm custom rolling I trim alot out |
| 02:55.24 | drwahl | Trollinator: well, the touchpad works again |
| 02:55.26 | drwahl | rofl |
| 02:55.30 | Trollinator | lol |
| 02:55.45 | abrotman | rue_mohr: uhm .. modules don't take RAM unless they're loaded |
| 02:55.59 | rue_mohr | oh yea, right |
| 02:56.00 | drwahl | Trollinator: but still no sign of the nic... |
| 02:56.44 | rue_mohr | but when those stock kernels start pluggining in everything they can, it just gets stupdi |
| 02:57.07 | abrotman | they don't ? |
| 02:57.11 | abrotman | you can also blacklist |
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| 02:58.16 | drwahl | modprobe -l | grep rtl shows the exact module, and modprobe rtl8187 shows "registered new interface driver rtl8187" in dmesg, but i dont seem to have anyway to interface with it |
| 02:58.23 | drwahl | just to recap :) |
| 02:58.32 | Trollinator | yes... |
| 02:58.35 | Trollinator | that is very strange. |
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| 02:59.16 | Trollinator | drwahl: you might want to ask in #linux |
| 02:59.23 | drwahl | i will check there |
| 02:59.24 | drwahl | thanks |
| 02:59.55 | Trollinator | sorry i couldn't help you |
| 03:02.41 | abrotman | firmware ? |
| 03:03.22 | drwahl | Trollinator: no need to be sorry, you got me further than i could get on my own :) |
| 03:07.16 | screamingbytes | my $TERM is set to xterm, to get my vim colors to work right i think i want it to be linux. is the best way to do it in the .bashrc? |
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| 03:09.24 | rue_mohr | hahaha, as soon as i2c says it found an eeprom, the machine turns off |
| 03:09.36 | rue_mohr | thats awkward |
| 03:10.11 | rue_mohr | try some different runlevels |
| 03:12.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | screamingbytes: "syntax on" in /etc/vim/vimrc |
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| 03:12.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | screamingbytes: and make sure you really have vim installed and not some stripped-down version |
| 03:12.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | screamingbytes: "xterm" is fine |
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| 03:14.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | !vim syntax highlighting |
| 03:14.11 | dpkg | [vim syntax highlighting] a way to make vim highlight script or source code syntax. Install 'vim' (or 'vim-runtime' if you prefer using 'vim-tiny') and type ':syntax on' when in vim. You can have it start each time with vim by adding 'syntax on' to your ~/.vimrc file. |
| 03:14.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, not *much* more |
| 03:14.51 | screamingbytes | CutMeOwnThroat: yea i have the full blown version of vim, i removed the stripped one. I have been trying to set my cterm colors not gui. ctermfg / ctermbg etc... like ctermbg=70 etc... and its not working |
| 03:15.25 | screamingbytes | I have my .gvimrc and .vimrc files setup pretty well, my gui colors are fine now im just working on the console ones |
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| 03:16.56 | ross` | i just added some stuff to /etc/network/interfaces how do i get my server online now |
| 03:17.03 | ross` | how to i put that into effect |
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| 03:17.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | ross`: normally /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 03:17.27 | ross` | ah thank you |
| 03:17.42 | screamingbytes | ross`: i assume /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 03:17.42 | ross` | erm.. it doesnt exist |
| 03:17.44 | ross` | networking does thou |
| 03:17.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | or "ifup <interface>" |
| 03:17.48 | ross` | ah yes that exusts |
| 03:18.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | screamingbytes: ops, yes :) I always tab-autocomplete :) |
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| 03:18.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | so I think I never type more than "net[Tab]" there |
| 03:18.45 | ross` | then what |
| 03:18.45 | screamingbytes | me too :) i have to steal or write a service script like the one used in rh |
| 03:18.52 | ross` | my server isnt online yet ofor some reason |
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| 03:18.57 | ross` | is there anything else i have to do |
| 03:19.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | see above |
| 03:19.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | ---> or "ifup <interface>" |
| 03:19.11 | screamingbytes | ross`: check your interfaces see if there online |
| 03:19.18 | ross` | how screamingbytes |
| 03:19.26 | abrotman | ross`: did you make a mistake? |
| 03:19.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 03:19.30 | ross` | i just added information then restarted it |
| 03:19.32 | ross` | =/ |
| 03:19.38 | ross` | then i did ifconfig |
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| 03:20.02 | vinc456 | i just downloaded the emacs lisp intro package that was last updated in 2001 according to the aptitude description. The latest version of the manual was last updated in 2007 and I'm wondering if it will automatically update |
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| 03:20.41 | screamingbytes | ross`: does ifconfig show that the interface is up? |
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| 03:20.59 | vinc456 | it's an "info" document |
| 03:21.25 | screamingbytes | ross`: the 4th line in ifconfig output will say something like: UP BROADCAST RUNNING ... |
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| 03:21.52 | ross` | yes |
| 03:21.59 | screamingbytes | ross`: the 2nd line should reflect the IP and Subnet etc... |
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| 03:22.55 | screamingbytes | ross`: so paste your interface config file and the output of ifconfig into pastebin.ca or something and provide the link |
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| 03:23.31 | ross` | =/ i cant |
| 03:23.39 | ross` | thanks for your help thou |
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| 03:25.44 | abrotman | arrummzen: fix your internet |
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| 03:33.12 | Miesco | How do you update the Debian Menu? |
| 03:33.38 | wols | man menu |
| 03:34.04 | Trollinator | Miesco: what "Menu"? |
| 03:34.11 | Trollinator | there are lots of menues in debian. |
| 03:34.25 | Miesco | The Debian one, applications -> Debian |
| 03:34.36 | theatro | right click on the foot > edit menu |
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| 03:35.40 | Miesco | theatro: I got deleted programs in the menu, I was wondering if there is a way to refresh it so only installed programs are on it |
| 03:36.43 | theatro | if you see deleted programs on the menu, its a bug |
| 03:37.08 | Tramp | Miesco: update-menus may do. But then, it may not. |
| 03:38.20 | Trollinator | Miesco: do you use gnome? Then you can edit your menus with alacarte. |
| 03:39.02 | Miesco | Trollinator: I know |
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| 03:41.55 | rue_mohr | lmsensors is tripping the via power switch, sensors-detect just did it |
| 03:41.58 | rue_mohr | hmm |
| 03:42.01 | rue_mohr | k |
| 03:42.09 | rue_mohr | no touching that bus |
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| 03:42.59 | Trollinator | drwahl: can you tell me the output from lsusb again? |
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| 03:46.22 | Miesco | update-menus is not working... |
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| 03:46.27 | Miesco | Where is the information stored for the menu |
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| 03:47.33 | huhlig | sigh |
| 03:47.48 | huhlig | hi all |
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| 03:47.55 | Strogg | Ahoy there |
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| 03:48.35 | tvynr | So how do I tell the bot to tell me which package a file is in? |
| 03:48.49 | Strogg | tvynr: check out apt-file. it's pretty neat |
| 03:48.53 | tvynr | Oh. |
| 03:48.55 | tvynr | Cool, thanks. :) |
| 03:48.56 | wols | !tell tvynr about search |
| 03:49.08 | ChrisKnadle | or 'dpkg -S <file>' |
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| 03:49.42 | Strogg | Do I need to run a special kernel to get my box to see 2gig of memory? I only seem to have 1gig detected |
| 03:50.07 | tvynr | Oh, no, that's not the problem. |
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| 03:50.21 | tvynr | I'm trying to build the Linux Wacom drivers from source and I need some X dev library. |
| 03:50.23 | wols | Strogg: that's cause you run a -486 kernel. what cpu do you have? |
| 03:50.28 | tvynr | So I need to know which package that file's in. |
| 03:50.32 | tvynr | 'cause it's not installed right now. |
| 03:50.40 | wols | tvynr: dpkg told you what to do |
| 03:50.43 | huhlig | hey which of the two nvidia drivers currently works better |
| 03:50.47 | huhlig | nv or nvidia blob |
| 03:50.51 | tvynr | bah |
| 03:50.52 | Strogg | wols: amd64 3000+ |
| 03:50.58 | wols | huhlig: depends |
| 03:50.58 | tvynr | silly client doesn't really grab attention for PMs |
| 03:50.59 | tvynr | thanks |
| 03:51.06 | wols | Strogg: for etch, get a k7 kernel |
| 03:51.22 | Strogg | wols: hrmmm.. ok, I'll give that a shot. Thanks |
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| 03:51.24 | wols | huhlig: what nvidia chip is it? |
| 03:51.36 | huhlig | Quadra FX 360m |
| 03:51.52 | wols | that's not a chip. an I'd prefer its consumer name |
| 03:51.59 | ChrisKnadle | huhlig: the nvidia blob has 3D, the nv 2D driver generally works well |
| 03:52.16 | wols | quadras are (old) powermacs btw. not nvidia anything |
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| 03:52.34 | wols | ChrisKnadle: nv doesn't support all availabel chips |
| 03:52.35 | huhlig | wol umm |
| 03:52.50 | ChrisKnadle | wols: ok -- good to know |
| 03:52.53 | wols | kevind23: what does lspci say |
| 03:52.54 | huhlig | wols, sorry, Quadro |
| 03:52.57 | huhlig | typo |
| 03:53.00 | kevind23 | what? |
| 03:53.03 | kevind23 | k |
| 03:53.14 | wols | huhlig: what does lspci say? |
| 03:53.16 | Miesco | How do I get desklets? |
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| 03:53.37 | wols | Miesco: you search for them |
| 03:53.43 | huhlig | Quadro FX 360M |
| 03:53.48 | huhlig | just as I said |
| 03:53.57 | wols | *sigh* |
| 03:54.15 | huhlig | rev 1a |
| 03:54.16 | Miesco | wols: Whats an example of one |
| 03:54.21 | wols | well, finally sunday is upon us. yay sunday! |
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| 03:54.49 | wols | gdesklets |
| 03:55.24 | Miesco | gdesklets has a c beside it in aptitude... |
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| 03:55.37 | Miesco | Not in my repository... |
| 03:55.45 | wols | info gdesklets etch |
| 03:55.50 | wols | !info gdesklets etch |
| 03:55.52 | dpkg | gdesklets: (Architecture for desktop applets), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.35.3-4+b1 (etch), Packaged size: 463 kB, Installed size: 1896 kB |
| 03:56.01 | wols | Miesco: come again? |
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| 03:56.51 | wols | can someone please gruni's PC? any op? |
| 03:56.51 | Miesco | Im using lenny |
| 03:56.52 | Miesco | !info gdesklets lenny |
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| 03:57.13 | wols | then you are supposed to know how to backport or fix trivial problems like this. |
| 03:57.19 | wols | if you can't: run stable |
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| 03:57.45 | Miesco | wols: I will but I have to reinstall |
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| 03:58.04 | wols | Miesco: you should have thought about this before installing lenny. have fun doing it |
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| 03:58.52 | Miesco | Im going to reinstall debian (maybe even ubuntu) |
| 03:59.04 | Miesco | wols: How do I use backports? |
| 03:59.13 | wols | !tell Miesco about backports |
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| 03:59.41 | DragonD | how do i install kvm on etch? |
| 04:00.17 | Miesco | Tell Miesco about lenny backports |
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| 04:00.26 | Miesco | !tell Miesco about lenny backports |
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| 04:00.28 | wols | !tell Miesco about selftell |
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| 04:01.38 | Miesco | Im thinking about using Ubuntu so I wont have to use lenny... |
| 04:01.46 | Miesco | What do you guys think of that |
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| 04:02.35 | Miesco | I guess, what I am asking is: What kind of person is Ubuntu for and, what kind of person is Debian for? |
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| 04:04.26 | amphi | Miesco: lenny has been working well for me, FWIW |
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| 04:04.45 | amphi | Miesco: before you fall into the clutches of the Shuttled One |
| 04:04.56 | Miesco | amphi: Me too, I have not had much problems |
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| 04:05.11 | Miesco | Except right now, gdesklets does not work |
| 04:05.22 | Miesco | Is there a backport for sid? |
| 04:05.23 | amphi | Miesco: so why do consider switching? |
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| 04:05.51 | Miesco | amphi: Well nvidia isn't in lenny yet... |
| 04:06.10 | Miesco | And I have to run sh ./NVIDIA*.run everytime I reboot to run gdm |
| 04:06.11 | amphi | ah, blobbery |
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| 04:06.29 | amphi | well, that's not terribly onerous |
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| 04:06.46 | amphi | a mild punishment for blobism IMHO ;) |
| 04:06.57 | jetscreamer | Miesco: http://linux.hfds.com/files/n-i.txt for that rerun crap |
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| 04:08.00 | jetscreamer | Miesco: after that you only have to rerun after a xorg update |
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| 04:08.19 | niwt | I want some commands to be executed about 30 seconds after the computer finishes booting up. Where would be the place to put these commands? |
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| 04:08.34 | jetscreamer | !rc.local |
| 04:08.34 | dpkg | methinks rc.local is /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. if you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is considered a hack, consider writing a real init script (ask me about <init.d>). |
| 04:08.35 | jetscreamer | maybe |
| 04:08.56 | niwt | If I put in 30 or 40 second delay, with that also delay my login? |
| 04:09.20 | wols | yes |
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| 04:09.27 | Strogg | woot! |
| 04:09.29 | jetscreamer | all i know is i see stuff being executed after gdm seems to load/start .. ithink |
| 04:09.33 | Strogg | wols: worked like a charm. Thanks :) |
| 04:09.53 | Miesco | thanks |
| 04:09.54 | niwt | jetscreamer: yeah, I've seen that, too. I think it's fairly new. |
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| 04:10.31 | Miesco | amphi: Is there a sid backport? |
| 04:10.41 | amphi | Miesco: I know not |
| 04:10.57 | jetscreamer | did you see what i showed you, Miesco ? |
| 04:11.14 | niwt | It'll be something like "sleep 30 && ifdown eth1 && echo "nameserver 192.168.1.1" >> /etc/resolv.conf && ifup eth1 |
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| 04:12.24 | jetscreamer | i guess he didn't |
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| 04:13.55 | wols | niwt: that's disgusting |
| 04:14.16 | wols | Miesco: sid backports don't exist |
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| 04:14.30 | niwt | wols: no shit, but it's easier than having to open network manager to add the same dns number, every time I reboot |
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| 04:14.34 | Rothgar` | is there such thing as apt-get install-dep ? |
| 04:14.37 | wols | !tell Miesco about simple sid backport |
| 04:14.50 | wols | niwt: there are other ways to fix this |
| 04:14.52 | Rothgar` | I just want to install the dependencies as I have to manually compile the package |
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| 04:15.11 | wols | Rothgar`: yes. man apt-get |
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| 04:15.29 | niwt | wols: I'm open to suggestions - it started when I started using the onboard Marvell LAN, atl1 driver |
| 04:15.41 | Walther | what's a good desktop patch now that -ck has quit doing them? |
| 04:15.46 | niwt | with old 3com, it's no problem |
| 04:15.49 | wols | chattr +i, setting a approrpiate dhcp.conf setting, etc |
| 04:16.03 | jetscreamer | you might ask in #kernel at the same time Walther |
| 04:16.18 | wols | niwt: it's not a debian problem but a problem of what your dhcp server offers as a DNS server |
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| 04:16.30 | Rothgar` | wols: I used build-dep but the package when I manually compiled complained about missing dependencies |
| 04:16.53 | wols | !tell Rothgar` about bat |
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| 04:17.41 | jetscreamer | !lart Miesco |
| 04:17.44 | niwt | wols: well, if I put in the ip number of my router, I have internet access for about 30 seconds after boot, then resolv.conf gets emptied |
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| 04:18.52 | wols | niwt: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and why are you useing netowk-manager? |
| 04:19.00 | wols | *network-manager |
| 04:19.03 | niwt | ease |
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| 04:19.13 | niwt | hang on |
| 04:19.20 | jetscreamer | crackheads broke into my van and took my wireless pcmcia card |
| 04:19.23 | jetscreamer | :/ |
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| 04:19.58 | jetscreamer | and my change |
| 04:19.58 | jetscreamer | !pal gruni |
| 04:19.58 | wols | he should be baned |
| 04:19.58 | wols | +n |
| 04:20.00 | jetscreamer | and my laptop bag |
| 04:20.13 | jetscreamer | laptop was in my house though |
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| 04:20.51 | s[exe] | d |
| 04:21.04 | jetscreamer | e |
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| 04:21.24 | niwt | wols: http://pastebin.com/d74d0b8f1 |
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| 04:21.58 | wols | niwt: and this marvell nic is eth1? |
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| 04:22.44 | niwt | yes, I had to put in a 3com to do the install, then install the atl1 driver |
| 04:23.13 | niwt | I'm using a recent atl1 driver, not the original |
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| 04:23.34 | jetscreamer | gruni get a connect |
| 04:23.38 | jetscreamer | or quit spamming |
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| 04:24.28 | wols | niwt: uninstall network-manager |
| 04:24.44 | niwt | ok |
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| 04:24.59 | wols | and specify the nameserver in interfaces |
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| 04:25.40 | Steven_M | does anyone here use kphone? |
| 04:25.54 | wols | !tell steven about anyone |
| 04:26.09 | niwt | wols: I'll try a reboot and see what happens - anything else I should do first? |
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| 04:27.48 | niwt | brb |
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| 04:28.23 | Rothgar` | Hmm |
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| 04:28.30 | Rothgar` | Where is the kernel-source package now? |
| 04:29.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | linux-source? |
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| 04:29.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | fun guy |
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| 04:30.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | linux-source |
| 04:30.46 | Nyle | hola |
| 04:30.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | ¡ |
| 04:31.09 | jetscreamer | !tel nyle -about nyeet |
| 04:31.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
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| 04:31.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess you forgot an l there |
| 04:31.47 | jetscreamer | me? no |
| 04:31.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | gah, that guy could decide if he joins or not |
| 04:32.11 | jetscreamer | issues i guess |
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| 04:32.33 | Nyle | jetscreamer: I went and bought some milk and cereal for the morning |
| 04:32.43 | Nyle | I'm gonna force myself to eat a breakfast everyday now |
| 04:33.00 | Nyle | I only usually eat like once a day, but enough of that |
| 04:33.14 | jetscreamer | instant breakfast |
| 04:33.16 | Nyle | CutMeOwnThroat: what are you trying to do with the linux source |
| 04:33.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | nothing |
| 04:33.23 | jetscreamer | he's nt |
| 04:33.25 | jetscreamer | not |
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| 04:33.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | it was the answer to the question above |
| 04:33.37 | Nyle | oh |
| 04:33.47 | Nyle | Rothgar`: what are you trying to do with the linux source |
| 04:34.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | he's not talking |
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| 04:34.36 | wols | Rothgar`: very unlikely you need the linux source |
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| 04:34.59 | Nyle | jetscreamer: I have confirmed something |
| 04:35.15 | niwt | wols: Thanks! that worked fine |
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| 04:35.33 | Nyle | doomsday game engine, which is being worked on by this Jamie Jones who is also the upstream dev, not anymore though |
| 04:35.58 | Nyle | jetscreamer: what happened was that the future plans of doomsday engine folk are that they are going to make it dependant on vista |
| 04:36.07 | Nyle | and not much care is going into the linux port |
| 04:36.21 | Nyle | the dev who does the linux work started a fork, so it stays linux and gpl compatible |
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| 04:36.39 | Nyle | there are 3 source files in the engine which are not gpl compat, so doomsday would have wated my time anyway |
| 04:36.51 | Nyle | we're now trying to write the entire code for those 3 files from scratch |
| 04:37.01 | Nyle | so as to not have ANY code that is restric by the Rave EULA |
| 04:37.13 | dotCOMmie | I'm having some PAM problems. I've uncommented pam_access.so in login and added "- : ALL : ALL" to top of access.conf but can still login. Any ideas? |
| 04:37.23 | Nyle | http://dengng.bpa.nu/ |
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| 04:37.33 | Nyle | thats the forked engine |
| 04:37.49 | Nyle | look at the liscening on the main page, bugs #1, #2, #3 need work |
| 04:37.56 | Nyle | any doom loving programmer wanna help us out? |
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| 04:38.03 | Nyle | :) |
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| 04:40.24 | Nyle | New contributors please note a code audit uncovered several incorrectly licensed files from our mother source project, these are bugs #1, #2, and #3 - contributions which wholly replace those are much appreciated. |
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| 04:41.03 | Nyle | I will not rest until this goddamn engine is in debian |
| 04:41.08 | Nyle | blah.! |
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| 04:41.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | and Gruni agrees... |
| 04:41.51 | Nyle | ? |
| 04:42.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, he does so by quitting and rejoining |
| 04:42.07 | Nyle | what? |
| 04:42.09 | Nyle | oh |
| 04:42.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's like nodding... head up-head down |
| 04:42.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | in-out |
| 04:42.29 | Nyle | I have joins/parts/quits/modes/kicks/crap/clientcrap/ ignored |
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| 04:42.35 | jetscreamer | Vote for Gruni! YOur Next irc president!!! |
| 04:42.38 | Nyle | I only see people chatting in any channel |
| 04:42.40 | jetscreamer | dsmmit |
| 04:42.49 | Nyle | wtf do I care who joins and parts or gets kicked or banned |
| 04:42.53 | Nyle | I don't need to say that bullshit |
| 04:42.56 | jetscreamer | Vote for Gruni! Your Next IRC President!!! |
| 04:42.56 | Nyle | see* |
| 04:43.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, only if you don't care if you talk to yourself because the guy already quit |
| 04:43.16 | jetscreamer | note if you don't type, nyle won't know you're looking at him... |
| 04:43.28 | Nyle | exactly |
| 04:43.35 | Nyle | I'm like a Tyran. Rex |
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| 04:43.38 | Nyle | acute vision |
| 04:43.46 | Nyle | my vision is based on movement |
| 04:43.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | big and smells bad? |
| 04:43.54 | Nyle | hahaha |
| 04:43.58 | Nyle | smells bad, hardly |
| 04:43.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | and dead for millions of years? |
| 04:44.04 | Nyle | big, hell no |
| 04:44.13 | Nyle | if anything, I would like to gain some weight |
| 04:44.25 | Nyle | not fat though |
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| 04:45.13 | Nyle | me tokes |
| 04:45.16 | Nyle | wtf |
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| 04:45.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | eating helps |
| 04:45.29 | Nyle | ahhh boy |
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| 04:45.36 | Nyle | i hate food. |
| 04:46.09 | fantomas | Hi. What is the name of that funny tool which enhances "command line"? |
| 04:46.16 | Nyle | fantomas: ? |
| 04:46.18 | fantomas | For easy file management |
| 04:46.23 | fantomas | not MC ) |
| 04:46.32 | Nyle | like a commander type file manager? |
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| 04:46.36 | fantomas | yep |
| 04:46.37 | Nyle | like norton commander type? |
| 04:46.40 | fantomas | no |
| 04:46.43 | fantomas | not like MC |
| 04:46.48 | Nyle | well what then? |
| 04:46.52 | fantomas | was one |
| 04:46.56 | fantomas | can't remember its name |
| 04:47.02 | Nyle | wel i can't help you like this |
| 04:47.17 | Nyle | try apt-cache search filemanager or some such |
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| 04:48.28 | jetscreamer | use dselect and read every description of every package |
| 04:48.30 | Xenguy | vifm ? ;-) |
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| 04:48.35 | fantomas | vfu? |
| 04:48.38 | jetscreamer | Vote for Gruni! Your Next IRC President!!! |
| 04:48.49 | Nyle | jetscreamer: cut it out |
| 04:49.17 | jetscreamer | -_- look who's typing :) |
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| 04:49.48 | Xenguy | rootgeek, huh? |
| 04:50.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | more root than geek, it seems |
| 04:50.30 | Xenguy | heheh |
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| 04:51.20 | jetscreamer | he's never get unbanned if they ban him :) |
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| 04:52.12 | fantomas | I've found it - lfm |
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| 04:52.44 | Xenguy | !lfm |
| 04:52.52 | Xenguy | !dpkg |
| 04:52.53 | dpkg | i heard dpkg is the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". also ask me about <apt howto>, or me. |
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| 04:53.29 | jetscreamer | !info lfm |
| 04:53.35 | dpkg | lfm: (a simple but powerful file manager for the UNIX console), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.91.2-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 67 kB, Installed size: 396 kB |
| 04:54.17 | fantomas | I need a tool to simplify working @ my hosting provider's console |
| 04:54.29 | fantomas | MC stopped working somehow |
| 04:54.35 | Xenguy | dpkg lfm is a simple but powerful file manager for the UNIX console Last File Manager is a simple but powerful file manager for the UNIX console. It has been developed with the ol' good 'Midnight Commander' as model. |
| 04:54.35 | dpkg | okay, Xenguy |
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| 04:55.12 | Xenguy | dpkg forget lfm |
| 04:55.12 | dpkg | i forgot lfm, Xenguy |
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| 04:55.39 | casey-f^^ | bah. i need a faster pipe. downloading 75 gig shouldn't take 48 hours. it should take like 3 minutes. |
| 04:55.39 | jetscreamer | somehow? |
| 04:55.46 | Xenguy | dpkg lfm is Last File Manager is a simple but powerful file manager for the UNIX console. It has been developed with the ol' good 'Midnight Commander' as model. |
| 04:55.46 | dpkg | Xenguy: okay |
| 04:55.50 | jetscreamer | casey-f^^: all you need is love |
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| 04:56.31 | casey-f^^ | jetscreamer: i'm pregnant. does that count? |
| 04:57.07 | jetscreamer | not unless it's your first born and you give it up... |
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| 04:57.29 | jetscreamer | bad jetscreamer, bad |
| 04:57.59 | casey-f^^ | i just want to recursively run a command through an entire directory tree. the bash faq sucks imo. oh well. |
| 04:58.10 | jetscreamer | nyle change your nick to rumplestiltskin |
| 04:58.24 | jetscreamer | do you mean the bash faq on wooledge? |
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| 04:58.35 | casey-f^^ | jetscreamer, yes. |
| 04:58.58 | jetscreamer | well did you try #bash (my bash-fu is weak) |
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| 04:59.21 | casey-f^^ | jetscreamer: the last time i asked a simple question like that, it took me an hour to get someone to say check the faq. |
| 04:59.34 | casey-f^^ | i just need a bigger download pipe, like i said. |
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| 04:59.45 | jetscreamer | there's always #perl ... :) |
| 04:59.47 | squisher | casey-f^^, use find? |
| 05:00.26 | squisher | casey-f^^, find DIR -type d -exec some command \; |
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| 05:01.20 | jetscreamer | http://wooledge.org:8000/UsingFind#head-74828b0092e7315092bb24953bd5b6c9a8e976a0 |
| 05:01.41 | jetscreamer | i dunno more than i know |
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| 05:01.55 | squisher | jetscreamer, really? |
| 05:02.04 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 05:02.23 | jetscreamer | actually i left it like that, i was gonna |
| 05:02.24 | squisher | I totally do, just wished I could access those grey cells in my head |
| 05:02.25 | amphi | is gruni a metronome? |
| 05:02.27 | jetscreamer | i dunno, more than i know |
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| 05:03.05 | jetscreamer | amphi: a very crummy one that can't keep a beat maybe |
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| 05:05.27 | amphi | heh |
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| 05:06.28 | jetscreamer | well it does seem to take him 10 seconds exactly to 'quit' |
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| 05:07.01 | Penix | Gruni: tool |
| 05:07.29 | casey-f^^ | god. there's no intelligent way to do this. i'll just trace the directories with mc. shoot me now. |
| 05:07.51 | jetscreamer | trace? |
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| 05:08.20 | casey-f^^ | never mind. i'll spend less time doing it the stupid way. |
| 05:08.25 | jetscreamer | there's a 'recreate dir structure w/o files' faq on the bash |
| 05:08.50 | squisher | casey-f^^, hehe, you would have been done by now had you started the manual way, huh? |
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| 05:09.01 | squisher | that has happened to me waaay too many times.... |
| 05:09.08 | casey-f^^ | i want to run, eg, find . -name '*.md5' -exec md5sum -c {} \; ... the problem is that when i do this, md5sum can't read the input. |
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| 05:10.12 | squisher | casey-f^^, hmm, you need a little helper script |
| 05:10.45 | squisher | just write one which does 'cd `dirname $1`; md5sum `basename $1`' |
| 05:10.53 | squisher | then use find to execute that |
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| 05:11.07 | casey-f^^ | squisher: i guess. considering that i have about 1.5T of files to run md5sum on, i suppose i should actually sit down and do it. |
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| 05:11.24 | squisher | casey-f^^, or check out cfv... which might work a bit better (I haven't checked though) |
| 05:11.36 | squisher | it can verify md5's too, and I think it has a recursive mode built in |
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| 05:13.34 | casey-f^^ | flac needs a recursive mode too, and it doesn't have one |
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| 05:14.02 | squisher | yeah, that'd be handy |
| 05:14.28 | casey-f^^ | i've got a collection of over 1500 live recordings in flac and shn. doing a full-house verify is a HUGE pain. |
| 05:14.51 | squisher | why do you need to verify it? Did you have some corruption? |
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| 05:15.03 | liable | Gruni: what are you doing? |
| 05:15.52 | casey-f^^ | squisher: any time you do a mass move, eg dump 350 DVDs to hard drive storage, you introduce the possibility of corruption of the archive, eg missed files or something. the project has been dumping the archive from dvd to disk, and yes, there were some problems along the way. a complete file check is the next step. |
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| 05:16.33 | squisher | casey-f^^, I see, makes sense. Specially with live stuff, which I presume isn't easily recoverable... |
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| 05:17.04 | casey-f^^ | squisher: well, other traders in the community have copies obviously. i want to verify my archive to make sure that i don't trade and share corrupt copies, which pollutes the community. |
| 05:17.07 | squisher | I'd really recommend cfv, it handles all kind of hashes and does have the recursive mode built in |
| 05:17.15 | casey-f^^ | i'm looking at it now |
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| 05:18.19 | casey-f^^ | the downside for me is that my collection is ... quite large. |
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| 05:19.27 | squisher | casey-f^^, that's a lot of stuff, yeah |
| 05:19.49 | squisher | friend of mine has quite a bit of live recordings too, and spread over like 5 hdds.... and then his mobo died |
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| 05:20.01 | squisher | now he's afraid of turning it on again before he buys some newer disks to dump the stuff on :) |
| 05:20.41 | casey-f^^ | squisher: that's why i put mine on external usb drives. if they die i just plug them into another box. they're slightly more expensive to buy but way seriously easier to move around. and now i have enough drives that i'd have to buy a jbod for them all anyway, if they were bare drives. |
| 05:20.51 | casey-f^^ | usb is slower ... but for this application, way better |
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| 05:21.08 | Aeroraptor | anyone know where I might find a directory with woody ISOs |
| 05:21.11 | casey-f^^ | so i'm using my mac mini as a media server for this. can't stuff 8 drives into it. |
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| 05:21.23 | Aeroraptor | searching with the archives is no good |
| 05:21.25 | squisher | casey-f^^, true, it does give you a lot of flexibility |
| 05:21.25 | huhlig | ok |
| 05:21.31 | huhlig | can I get a moments assistance |
| 05:21.38 | squisher | I might recommend that to him, actually. |
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| 05:21.59 | huhlig | is anyone familier with the driver for an intel 3945ABG |
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| 05:22.39 | liable | whats up |
| 05:22.46 | casey-f^^ | squisher: what band? |
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| 05:23.13 | Aeroraptor | any ideas? |
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| 05:23.44 | squisher | casey-f^^, he listens to a lot of Pink Floyd, Govt. Mule |
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| 05:24.19 | casey-f^^ | squisher: suggest reminding him to mount drives by volume label, not by eg /dev/sdb1. on usb, the /dev designations can change, which will seriously jack your mounts between reboots. :-) |
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| 05:24.45 | squisher | good point! |
| 05:24.51 | casey-f^^ | Aeroraptor: is there some reason you NEED iso's for two versions ago? |
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| 05:25.02 | Aeroraptor | yep |
| 05:25.12 | Aeroraptor | the new versions won't boot on my sparcstation |
| 05:25.20 | Aeroraptor | they give an error about the root fs not being found |
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| 05:25.39 | Aeroraptor | in 4.0r2 |
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| 05:25.56 | Aeroraptor | and a friend of mine *knows* 3.x works, so i want to try it |
| 05:26.03 | liable | Gruni: stop it |
| 05:26.05 | Aeroraptor | but the ISOs seem to be... gone :( |
| 05:26.32 | squisher | liable, I'm sure he'll notice you telling him that ;-) |
| 05:26.44 | squisher | casey-f^^, what speed do you get over usb? |
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| 05:27.06 | casey-f^^ | casey-f^^, usb2. in mass file copies, i get about 10 meg/sec, which isn't awful, as measured eg by rsync |
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| 05:27.47 | squisher | casey-f^^, yup, that's pretty decent. I do wonder if firewire would be faster |
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| 05:31.39 | casey-f^^ | squisher: the times when i've tried firewire, it hasn't been significantly different, and esp since usb-only drives are much easier to get, i don't think it's worth the hassle |
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| 05:34.11 | casey-f^^ | the man page for cfv has no useful examples. bah. |
| 05:34.22 | Xenguy | oh ffs would someone ban that gruni character? |
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| 05:36.42 | squisher | casey-f^^, hmm, that's true. Have you tried just running "cfv -r -tmd5 -v ." and see if it finds your .md5 files automagically? |
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| 05:37.15 | casey-f^^ | 0 files, 0 OK. 0.001 seconds, 0.0K/s |
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| 05:37.47 | casey-f^^ | it doesn't. i get *.md5: no such file or directory with, eg, cfv -r -i -t md5 -f *.md5 |
| 05:38.18 | squisher | casey-f^^, that's because of the shell expanding the *.md5 |
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| 05:40.48 | squisher | casey-f^^, have you tried it with just 'cfv -r -i -tmd5' ? |
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| 05:41.21 | casey-f^^ | hrm. ooh. wow. it likes this. |
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| 05:43.06 | casey-f^^ | that takes care of shn apparently. now i need to learn to do flac. :-( |
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| 05:44.07 | casey-f^^ | jesus. this asshole makes me want to register this nick just to send him racially insensitive /msgs cuz he's so annoying. |
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| 05:44.40 | Yggdrasil | how can i list the names of my drives/ i just added a new one , dmesg isnt working |
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| 05:45.04 | nokaoi | fdisk -l |
| 05:45.05 | squisher | yeah, no admin around, huh? |
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| 05:45.41 | squisher | casey-f^^, flac stores the checksum in the metadata, right? |
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| 05:45.51 | casey-f^^ | ops Gruni is being a drive-by flood jerk. in, flood out. in, flood out. in, flood out. for god's sake, make it stop. (n=gruni@rootgeek.org) |
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| 05:46.15 | casey-f^^ | squisher: yes. flac -t [filename], accepts wildcards |
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| 05:46.37 | squisher | casey-f^^, that one should be easy to do with find, right? |
| 05:46.38 | casey-f^^ | yet another way flac is superior to its predicessor shn. |
| 05:46.53 | squisher | flac's my favorite for lossless, that's for sure |
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| 05:47.36 | casey-f^^ | oops, need to instal it. |
| 05:48.40 | casey-f^^ | i'm getting this: find: paths must precede expression |
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| 05:48.46 | casey-f^^ | for find . -name *.flac |
| 05:49.01 | casey-f^^ | the directory names will sometimes match the expression |
| 05:49.10 | Rothgar` | What is the syntax of /dev/sd* devices? |
| 05:49.32 | Rothgar` | like /dev/sda1 a meaining disk 1? and the 1 representing partition? |
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| 05:49.44 | casey-f^^ | Rothgar`: that's it. |
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| 05:51.34 | Miesco | How come there is 21 CD's for the net install? |
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| 05:52.09 | casey-f^^ | Miesco: because you're either looking at the wrong thing, or they're arch-specific. what url are you looking at? |
| 05:52.26 | Miesco | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 05:53.16 | Miesco | Ah I see |
| 05:53.17 | grub | Miesco, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r2-i386-netinst.iso this is the netinst iso |
| 05:53.18 | casey-f^^ | Miesco: only two of those files are netinst (businesscard and netinst). all the others are either full install (1-21), updates, or other specialty installers. |
| 05:53.21 | ampex | Miesco: only one of those is the netinst, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r2-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 05:53.35 | Miesco | Yea |
| 05:53.39 | Miesco | I just realized that |
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| 05:54.17 | casey-f^^ | maybe we should get an oper to k-line this bastard. |
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| 05:57.27 | Hilary_ | ok, I just did something incredibly stupid |
| 05:57.36 | Hilary_ | I thought sudo was installed |
| 05:57.39 | Hilary_ | and I locked root |
| 05:57.47 | Hilary_ | now I cant unlock root |
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| 05:58.09 | Luria | single user mode time |
| 05:58.18 | Hilary_ | it wont accept the password |
| 05:58.28 | Hilary_ | for "maintenance" |
| 05:58.46 | Luria | or live cd and clear passwd and associated files |
| 05:58.48 | nokaoi | boot disc, mount the drive, chroot into it, passwd |
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| 05:59.32 | nokaoi | no need to "clear passwd and associated files" |
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| 06:01.30 | Luria | fair enough |
| 06:01.37 | Luria | old habit |
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| 06:02.53 | Hilary_ | ok, curious |
| 06:03.05 | Hilary_ | for the ipw3945 driver is there a microcode package |
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| 06:03.22 | Hilary_ | or do I just grab it from their website and dump it in /lib/firmware? |
| 06:03.32 | casey-f^^ | dpkg tell hilary about enter |
| 06:03.43 | liable | Hilary: yes |
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| 06:05.10 | casey-f^^ | huhlig: if you're going to use dpkg to tell me to stfu, have the balls to do it in public. |
| 06:05.38 | huhlig | I dont need an audiance thank you |
| 06:05.52 | casey-f^^ | your vagina is showing. |
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| 06:06.43 | huhlig | and your masculin bravado is showing |
| 06:06.52 | huhlig | makes no difference to me |
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| 06:08.03 | squisher | casey-f^^, you're whole talk about verifying got me to verify a DVD I just burnt and guess what... of course I can't read back 2/12 files :-( |
| 06:08.24 | casey-f^^ | squisher: sorry. |
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| 06:08.49 | squisher | casey-f^^, yeah, that's pita... I wonder if it's media or the drive, or the burning proggy? Sigh... |
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| 06:10.14 | casey-f^^ | squisher: i sometimes find that the drive in my mac mini is unable to read some discs, but popping them into my samsung burner they read okay. you might just try another drive. |
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| 06:11.10 | squisher | casey-f^^, yeah, but I thought the drive that burned the disc should be able to read it back, no? I'll test the disc in another pc later though (don't have more dvd drives at home) |
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| 06:12.02 | RifRafT | Anyone familiar with Sans GenIII honeypots? |
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| 06:14.40 | casey-f^^ | is there an installable deb for lame somewhere? |
| 06:15.15 | jello | !tell casey-f^^ about multimedia |
| 06:15.16 | squisher | casey-f^^, I use 'deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main', which has lame or at least toolame |
| 06:16.20 | casey-f^^ | ty |
| 06:17.56 | nalioth | casey-f^^: well, now that i've caught him before he flooded off, i see what you mean |
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| 06:23.00 | casey-f^^ | squisher: check out also etree-scripts. http://forums.etree.org/viewtopic.php?t=9286 current release is buried in there, the sourceforge stuff is several years out of date. requires eg shntool, flac, lame |
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| 06:24.17 | casey-f^^ | ohoh, md5check, checks md5, flac, ffp all at once. :-) |
| 06:24.25 | cizzi | i keep getting this error "error: rageircd:8 unknown user 'Debian-rageircd' |
| 06:24.32 | cizzi | but i removed rageicrd |
| 06:24.39 | cizzi | and did dpkg --purge |
| 06:25.16 | cizzi | anacron sends me this email |
| 06:25.18 | cizzi | any ideas? |
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| 06:26.51 | casey-f^^ | oh and great, md5check's output can be redirected eg to a log file ... which means I can set it up and let it run forever, and figure out the errors later without having to make my terminal's scrollback insanely large. yay. |
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| 06:27.26 | Aeroraptor | did you guys like, take down ALL the legacy stuff from the mirrors? |
| 06:29.05 | Aeroraptor | I mean wow, even sarge is totally gone! |
| 06:30.21 | Malf | Aeroraptor: Perhaps a supervillain is at fault? |
| 06:30.36 | Aeroraptor | Malf, must be. |
| 06:30.58 | casey-f^^ | http://archive.debian.org/dists/woody/ ... considering that support for woody ended over a year and a half ago, it doesn't surprise me that it's harder to find. |
| 06:30.59 | Aeroraptor | I tried netbsd on my sparcstation, but wow was it hard |
| 06:31.12 | Aeroraptor | casey-f^^, well sarge isn't that old |
| 06:31.42 | casey-f^^ | sarge is still officially supported but also deprecated. |
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| 06:37.26 | casey-f^^ | gah. still downloading. 954 of 2204 left. 24 hours and counting. :-( |
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| 06:44.36 | jmut | hi. I am slackware user. And whant to give a shot with debian. If I see correctly ?etch? is the one with latest "stable" packages and all. question is where I can see specific packages. too see which versions...and how late they are really. php5 , apache, mysql , vim ,subversion I am interested in. Any clue how can I check without downloading first? |
| 06:45.23 | simonrvn | packages.debian.org |
| 06:45.27 | Nyle | !pdo |
| 06:45.28 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 06:45.52 | Nyle | hi mr rvn |
| 06:45.57 | simonrvn | purdy simple eh |
| 06:46.07 | simonrvn | hullows mr e |
| 06:46.17 | Nyle | e? |
| 06:46.23 | simonrvn | Nyl e |
| 06:46.27 | Nyle | lol |
| 06:46.31 | Nyle | Borger |
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| 06:46.43 | Nyle | mr borger |
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| 06:47.14 | Nyle | Mr. Nyle Borger |
| 06:47.14 | simonrvn | ORLY |
| 06:47.21 | Nyle | ? |
| 06:47.26 | simonrvn | heh |
| 06:48.07 | jmut | thanks |
| 06:48.24 | Nyle | jmut: one thing with stable |
| 06:48.32 | Nyle | its going to be older than most current versions |
| 06:48.47 | simonrvn | !etch |
| 06:48.47 | dpkg | Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>). |
| 06:49.05 | simonrvn | see release date above |
| 06:49.13 | jmut | mm..I thought etch is the one that is updated regularly? |
| 06:49.19 | Nyle | no |
| 06:49.24 | jmut | so which one I need? |
| 06:49.33 | simonrvn | with security updates |
| 06:49.33 | Nyle | you want etch |
| 06:49.52 | Nyle | etch + security updates + backports if you need them |
| 06:49.54 | Nyle | !backports |
| 06:49.54 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port, http://backports.org/, http://www.apt-get.org/, ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 06:50.14 | jmut | hm..ok need more info I guess |
| 06:50.18 | jmut | will read. thanks |
| 06:50.24 | Nyle | jmut: how experienced are you with linux? |
| 06:50.33 | Nyle | in general |
| 06:50.46 | jmut | would consider experienced. 5-6years slackware, no gui |
| 06:50.51 | Nyle | you can try debian/lenny |
| 06:51.06 | Nyle | it would be 'testing' release, not fully stable but not too old either |
| 06:51.43 | Nyle | !lenny |
| 06:51.44 | dpkg | rumour has it, lenny is the codename for the next Debian release, currently testing. Lenny is the binoculars. ask me about <etch->lenny> |
| 06:51.44 | jmut | I don't need fully stable, just frequeantly updated, in 90% it is stable as far as I know. ok will try |
| 06:52.27 | simonrvn | lenny would probably suit you then |
| 06:52.45 | jmut | thanks all |
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| 06:58.09 | Nyle | ++ |
| 06:59.46 | Nyle | whoops |
| 07:00.00 | Nyle | I was trying to pack my pipe and I gunno how I hit plus twice and enter |
| 07:00.09 | Nyle | oh... numpad |
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| 07:02.26 | jmut | about testing, should I download just DVD 1 for example http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ or it is ok to the netinstall http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst. I have the feeling netinstall is for etch only. |
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| 07:03.45 | casey-f^^ | so i have two lists of dates, eg M/DD/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY. I want to do two things: integrate the list (eg his date, her date) and sort them. the purpose is to make a pair of lists -- dates not in his list, dates not in her list. how can this be accomplished? |
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| 07:07.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, can I see on the system how many dpi the mouse has (and if so, where)? |
| 07:07.32 | cmanns_2 | mouse dpi is built into the mouse lol |
| 07:07.41 | cmanns_2 | atleast on laser/optical |
| 07:08.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 07:08.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | that doesn't mean the system doesn't know how many dpi it has |
| 07:09.32 | hoxu | CutMeOwnThroat, check lsusb -v, but I doubt it's there |
| 07:10.05 | hoxu | CutMeOwnThroat, but you can use vendor/model to google for the specs |
| 07:10.12 | Nyle | jmut: you should get the netinstaller |
| 07:10.28 | Nyle | jmut: makes no sense to download a full dvd full of stuff you don't need wasting bandwidth |
| 07:10.40 | casey-f^^ | jmut: netinst works fine for lenny. |
| 07:10.41 | jmut | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/bt-dvd/ yep found this one...just no sure If Ineed DVD 1 only or more |
| 07:10.43 | Nyle | jmut: with netinstall iso, 160ish mb |
| 07:10.59 | casey-f^^ | is there a business card for lenny? i forget, that's even smaller |
| 07:11.00 | hoxu | !absg casey-f^^ |
| 07:11.00 | dpkg | casey-f^^: abs-guide is the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide to be found at http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#abs . It is also packaged, 'apt-get install abs-guide'. |
| 07:11.03 | Nyle | jmut: it contains the base debian system, after install you can just apt-get whatever you need |
| 07:11.06 | Nyle | or aptitude install |
| 07:11.07 | Nyle | whatever |
| 07:11.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's ps/2 ... I looked in xorg.0.log, but t doesnt say |
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| 07:11.28 | Nyle | casey-f^^: yes there is |
| 07:11.36 | Nyle | it contains the debian installer but not the base system |
| 07:11.41 | casey-f^^ | even better, imo :-) |
| 07:11.42 | Nyle | in fact the base system has to be downloaded |
| 07:11.45 | Nyle | well |
| 07:11.49 | Nyle | there is a netboot image |
| 07:11.59 | Nyle | its like 5mb total with initrd I think and kernel |
| 07:12.07 | jmut | oki |
| 07:12.11 | Nyle | you tell grub to boot it, it downloads EVERYTHING off the net |
| 07:12.14 | Nyle | including the installer itself |
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| 07:12.18 | Nyle | I think |
| 07:12.29 | Nyle | !d-i jmut |
| 07:12.29 | dpkg | jmut, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ Or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (if you've got hardware that the etch installer doesn't support) for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 07:12.29 | Ezep | How could I know my own ip with ping? |
| 07:12.34 | Ezep | Im under a lan |
| 07:12.40 | Nyle | Ezep: ifconfig? |
| 07:12.47 | Nyle | with a ping? |
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| 07:13.01 | hoxu | !enter |
| 07:13.02 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 07:13.05 | Ezep | Or with other tool, i think with ping i could |
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| 07:13.16 | Ezep | Nyle: I said im under a lan |
| 07:13.18 | hoxu | CutMeOwnThroat, do you know the mouse vendor/model? :p |
| 07:13.24 | Ezep | So, my ip is 192.168.0.1 |
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| 07:13.29 | Ezep | .2 pardon |
| 07:13.32 | Nyle | Ezep: you want to know the WAN ip? |
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| 07:13.40 | Nyle | or your node IP (internal lan) |
| 07:13.41 | jmut | Nyle: yep found it . thanks a lot |
| 07:13.42 | Ezep | yes |
| 07:13.47 | Ezep | WAN op |
| 07:13.53 | Ezep | ip* |
| 07:13.54 | Nyle | hmm |
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| 07:14.35 | zarathu | during the installation, I accidentally forgot to set my resolution properly, and now I'm stuck at 1024x768. |
| 07:14.39 | zarathu | How do I resolve this? |
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| 07:14.58 | Ezep | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg zarathu |
| 07:15.04 | zarathu | thought so :] |
| 07:15.05 | zarathu | thanks |
| 07:15.09 | Ezep | nop |
| 07:17.08 | Ezep | Nyle: any suggestion? :/ |
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| 07:20.21 | hoxu | !start a distro war |
| 07:20.21 | dpkg | start a distro war is, like, Debian Rulz |
| 07:20.34 | Gnine | not that way |
| 07:20.37 | Gnine | :-P |
| 07:21.05 | Ezep | wft :| |
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| 07:21.50 | Gnine | sike |
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| 07:22.27 | Ezep | ubuntu is no longer using dpkg? :| |
| 07:22.31 | Ezep | fuck them |
| 07:22.37 | fasl | hello, how can I install openssl-devel ? |
| 07:22.50 | blahdeblah | Hi. How do i change a VFAT file system volume label on Debian? |
| 07:23.07 | Ezep | blahdeblah: gparted |
| 07:23.09 | blahdeblah | fasl: aptitude install libssl-dev? |
| 07:23.44 | blahdeblah | Ezep: Will it work on memory cards? |
| 07:23.56 | Ezep | I think... |
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| 07:24.03 | Ezep | try :) |
| 07:24.05 | blahdeblah | OK - i'll give it a shot |
| 07:24.14 | Gnine | i didnt mean that Ezep .. just for some things |
| 07:24.34 | Gnine | meep |
| 07:24.48 | Ezep | ahh, ok |
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| 07:25.27 | Gnine | dpkg will always be an option .. but there are ways around it |
| 07:25.27 | dpkg | Gnine: that's too long |
| 07:25.50 | Gnine | trippy. to talk to dpkg |
| 07:25.58 | Ezep | dpkg is the ncurses way :P |
| 07:26.11 | hoxu | !sunday |
| 07:26.11 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 07:26.35 | simonrvn | um, dpkg the command line tool doesn't use ncurses... |
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| 07:27.01 | Ezep | simonrvn: for some packages, yes |
| 07:27.07 | Penix | Ezep: no |
| 07:27.08 | blahdeblah | Ezep: Doesn't look like there is a way to do it on gparted - where should the menu option be? |
| 07:27.11 | simonrvn | uh, no. |
| 07:27.17 | Ezep | :S |
| 07:27.34 | hoxu | simonrvn, just ask them what they are smoking |
| 07:27.35 | Ezep | so dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg what is? |
| 07:27.44 | Penix | Ezep: a debconf dialog |
| 07:27.48 | Penix | using the ncurses frontend |
| 07:27.51 | simonrvn | that's not dpkg, that's debconf |
| 07:27.56 | Ezep | oh, I see |
| 07:28.20 | Ezep | indirectly, u are using ncurses, but no from dpkg :P |
| 07:28.33 | hoxu | Ezep, dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 07:28.44 | simonrvn | still doesn't make it dpkg |
| 07:28.46 | Ezep | let me see |
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| 07:29.13 | casey-f^^ | yay. only 774 more dates to check. manually. |
| 07:29.39 | simonrvn | ldd /usr/bin/dpkg | grep -i ncurses \n 31529 exit 1 egrep -i ncurses |
| 07:29.47 | Ezep | Oh, u can use gtk or qt instead |
| 07:29.55 | simonrvn | ...unsurprisingly |
| 07:30.12 | Gnine | nemo is gtk |
| 07:30.31 | simonrvn | hoxu: i doubt i'd get an honest answer |
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| 07:31.55 | blahdeblah | Ezep: Answer was to use the mlabel command in mtools package. |
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| 07:35.34 | _uplinkd_ | what's the command to display my kernel version? |
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| 07:36.35 | Ezep | _uplinkd_: uname -r |
| 07:37.32 | _uplinkd_ | Ezep: thanks D: |
| 07:37.43 | Ezep | :) |
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| 07:40.31 | doubletoker | I need some help with make, anyone know how to make a command execute before anything else |
| 07:40.39 | doubletoker | or if it's even possible |
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| 07:45.34 | stiv2k | hey if im running PowerTOP from a liveCD would it be normal that the wakeups per second is so high ??? |
| 07:46.05 | casey-f^^ | gah. my hosting company offers solaris 10. why? ick. |
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| 07:49.58 | dreammer_ | how does one list usb drives & mount one if one did not properly unmount one? |
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| 07:53.57 | Ezep | lsusb |
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| 07:56.00 | casey-f^^ | dreammer_: dmesg. stuff in /dev/disk |
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| 07:57.39 | casey-f^^ | note that mounting usb drives by eg /dev/sdb1 can be irritatingly stupid as the letter assignments may change between reboots. use volume labels for mounting instead. |
| 07:58.46 | stiv2k | hey if im running PowerTOP from a liveCD would it be normal that the wakeups per second is so high ??? |
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| 07:59.24 | cahoot | doesn't powertop tell what's keeping the system to wake up? |
| 07:59.57 | casey-f^^ | yay. another year in my date comparison is done. |
| 08:00.47 | dreammer_ | i haven't figured out the volume labels... |
| 08:01.55 | casey-f^^ | dreammer_: mkfs.ext3 -L labelhere /dev/sdb1, then mount /dev/disk/by-label/labelhere |
| 08:02.06 | casey-f^^ | i'm sure you can add a label without a reformat but i've no clue how |
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| 08:02.45 | Penix | probably tune2fs -L or something |
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| 08:02.53 | casey-f^^ | note that in my experience, getting stuff to show up in /dev/disk/by-label requries that the drive be connected when the machine is booted. hotplugging will allow you to mount but not in this manner |
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| 08:03.16 | casey-f^^ | yeah penix that sounds right |
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| 08:03.53 | dimir | Morning! |
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| 08:04.44 | iKernel | Can anybody give me a list of their files in /etc/networking/run please? |
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| 08:05.25 | iKernel | sorry, that would e a list of their files in /etc/network/run |
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| 08:05.57 | liable | ifstate |
| 08:06.03 | liable | tis all |
| 08:06.16 | iKernel | thank you |
| 08:06.27 | liable | np |
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| 08:09.45 | yang_ | I am looking for some package that activates QOS (quality of service) i need that to use VOIP phone, which package should i refer to, noting is being found as "qos"? |
| 08:11.20 | bolt | er. i have my grub timeout set to zero and my newest kernel doesn't work. how can i get the menu to stay there for a while? |
| 08:11.45 | yang_ | bolt: set "timeout 5" for a 5 seconds delay |
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| 08:12.10 | yang_ | in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 08:12.13 | bolt | yang_: yeah, but i can't get to where i do that, because it boots the newest kernel after 0 seconds |
| 08:12.27 | casey-f^^ | jesus there has to be a better way to do this |
| 08:12.28 | yang_ | if you cannot boot into linux anymore try to boot a rescue C and mount the drive there |
| 08:12.39 | yang_ | rescue CD |
| 08:12.42 | liable | maybe if you hold e down while bios posts |
| 08:12.54 | dreammer_ | how does one map from 'lsusb' to 'mount' statement? (i'm trying to mount an external hd) |
| 08:12.55 | bolt | there has to be some key i can hold down to make it stop at the menu. even lilo has that |
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| 08:14.56 | Penix | dreammer_: you don't |
| 08:15.21 | Gnine | disconnect all other hd's |
| 08:15.24 | Penix | dreammer_: figure out which device node you access the drive with, then mount it somewhere. try dmesg |
| 08:17.19 | dreammer_ | i don't understand how you go from something in 'dmesg' to a mount statement... i.e. "mount /dev/something /mnt/mount_directory -t file_sys" |
| 08:18.03 | Penix | dreammer_: by reading the output of dmesg |
| 08:18.37 | hoxu | hmm... purging any packages listed by aptitude pattern "~c!~VCANDIDATE" should be safe, right? |
| 08:18.41 | casey-f^^ | the output of dmesg will tell you what drive letter was assigned (eg sdc or something). |
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| 08:21.02 | yang_ | bolt: why not a rescue CD, you can use knoppix, or maybe debian live cd I dont know |
| 08:21.12 | bolt | yang_: no cd-rom |
| 08:21.29 | dreammer_ | I get ----> sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 <----- does that mean 'sg0' is my device? |
| 08:21.29 | yang_ | oh, then it can be complicated |
| 08:22.03 | Penix | dreammer_: probably not |
| 08:22.03 | Penix | dreammer_: dmesg |grep sd |
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| 08:22.03 | casey-f^^ | dreammer_: no. |
| 08:22.03 | liable | bolt: did you try holding e down? |
| 08:22.03 | dreammer_ | i dunno how to read the 'dmesg' output |
| 08:22.12 | bolt | i don't get how this can possibly be hard. i used to have my timeout set to zero in lilo all the time. just held down shift, and the menu would still appear. in grub, that's apparently a no-go |
| 08:22.14 | Penix | dreammer_: you look for scsi disk devices being mentioned |
| 08:22.15 | bolt | liable: yep. tried. |
| 08:22.17 | casey-f^^ | dreammer_: can you copy and paste your output to somewhere like pastebin? |
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| 08:22.27 | bfrog | no lame in debian? why oh why! |
| 08:22.32 | bfrog | its gpl'd! |
| 08:22.35 | casey-f^^ | bfrog: patents. |
| 08:22.43 | hoxu | !tell bfrog about multimedia |
| 08:23.27 | solid_liq | anyone have experience pulling copies of files off of embedded devices running embedded linux (like modems and routers) which only have a telnet interface, onto your local machine? |
| 08:23.43 | casey-f^^ | solid_liq: good luck. |
| 08:23.49 | solid_liq | heh :) |
| 08:23.55 | solid_liq | netkit-rcp doesn't seem to work :( |
| 08:24.05 | casey-f^^ | solid_liq: unless you're doing just text files, you're begging for file corruption. |
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| 08:24.35 | solid_liq | I just want to run 'strings' on a binary to see if it has other options (the binary for controlling the LEDs) |
| 08:24.37 | dreammer_ | alright --- pasted the stuff i think is relevant on channel 'pastebin' |
| 08:24.59 | casey-f^^ | you'll need to paste it again since i didn't see it |
| 08:26.51 | casey-f^^ | so mount /dev/sda1 /mnt and see what happens |
| 08:27.00 | solid_liq | isn't there a way I can cat it to a virtual file in proc or something, to output it on a port, and receive that with nc on my desktop? |
| 08:27.03 | liable | bolt: escape key |
| 08:27.07 | liable | ? |
| 08:27.43 | dreammer_ | it worked... not understanding why it didn't before tho |
| 08:27.45 | bolt | liable: it doesn't react to that either. tried pressing it repeatedly as fast as i could, as well as holding it down. seems i will be setting up a pxe environment pretty soon |
| 08:28.51 | liable | bolt: hrm, gotts be something that does it |
| 08:28.59 | dreammer_ | (it seems random... --- i spent 30 minutes trying to mount the hd... and it didn't work--- i used the exact command, as i can see from 'history' and it didn't mount.... now it magically mounts) |
| 08:29.09 | bolt | liable: yep. they hid it well, though. |
| 08:30.08 | bolt | liable: but i seriously think that's in there. anyway, once i get it running, i'll go with timeout 1 and hiddenmenu instead, so there'll just be a one second pause in booting where i will know i can press esc to interrupt, but the menu wont be showing until i do. found that in a forum post from some guy with my exact problem |
| 08:31.28 | dreammer_ | what happens if one doesn't 'umount' a drive? i'm wondering if this is part of the problem |
| 08:32.23 | liable | bolt: or use fallback option |
| 08:32.36 | bfrog | ah crap |
| 08:32.37 | casey-f^^ | dreammer_: depends on how the machine goes down. if it's an orderly shutdown, eg shutdown -r now, it'll be unmounted correctly (in theory). if it's unplugged while mounted or if the machine powers down incorrectly, when you remount the drive next time, you might get some corruption or a forced fsck |
| 08:32.51 | bfrog | can debian not install from my wireless, no iwlwifi? |
| 08:33.08 | bfrog | yar |
| 08:33.09 | liable | nope |
| 08:33.15 | liable | firmware needed |
| 08:33.53 | bfrog | I can't help it every laptop known to man needs hardware firmware because the manufacturers are stupid |
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| 08:34.00 | bolt | liable: cool. hadn't heard about that |
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| 08:34.27 | bfrog | arch and suse certainly didn't complain :-/ |
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| 08:37.46 | dreammer_ | i'm going to call it a night... many thanks for the help |
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| 08:38.39 | casey-f^^ | yay only five years to go on my date comparison |
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| 08:41.13 | bfrog | well if I nab the correct debs and use a usb stick I'm good I guess |
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| 08:41.41 | bfrog | yay for crappy hardware with firmware |
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| 08:43.08 | liable | bfrog: if you install base without net, and get the ipw modules package for that kernel and its firmware (also wireless-tools) you should be good to go |
| 08:43.23 | liable | and wpasupp if you have a wpa network |
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| 08:56.13 | Haris | !bugs |
| 08:56.15 | dpkg | error: could not parse |
| 08:56.17 | Haris | Hello people |
| 08:56.36 | Haris | How do I check status for bugs on shell? What is that cpommand/package? |
| 08:56.40 | Haris | command+ |
| 08:56.51 | casey-f^^ | depends on which shell. |
| 08:57.06 | Haris | I have installed debbugs, but I don't think this is what I used before |
| 08:57.16 | Haris | this is BASH |
| 08:57.20 | Gnine | !bug 1 |
| 08:57.25 | Haris | hmm |
| 08:57.29 | Haris | !bug 1 |
| 08:57.30 | casey-f^^ | bugs.debian.org |
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| 08:57.46 | Haris | well, I know the web interface |
| 08:57.51 | Haris | I need the shell interface |
| 08:58.23 | Haris | I'm setting up courier and its talking about vpopmail's bugs, for which it won't be on debian package list |
| 08:58.48 | casey-f^^ | !tell haris about reportbug |
| 08:58.49 | Haris | ./usr/share/doc/courier-base/README.Debian |
| 08:58.49 | evgen | reportbug? |
| 08:58.52 | Haris | aha! |
| 08:58.56 | Haris | reportbug! |
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| 08:59.32 | Haris | aptitude remove --purge does NOT completely remove the package. It still remains in the pn or rc status |
| 08:59.54 | jelly-home | there is no "aptitude remove --purge" |
| 09:00.14 | Haris | well, aptitude certainly doesn't complain about it |
| 09:00.17 | casey-f^^ | that could explain why it doesn't work in the expected manner. |
| 09:00.27 | Haris | How do I remove and purge a package completely? |
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| 09:00.46 | Eulex | Haris, you're looking for aptitude purge. but that won't work on an already removed package. |
| 09:00.47 | jelly-home | "aptitude purge" is the correct syntax. and "pn" means it's been purged. |
| 09:00.54 | Eulex | !purge |
| 09:00.54 | dpkg | methinks purge is to completely wipe away a package, including its config files. Use aptitude purge [package] or if you already removed package with apt-get remove, and forgot config files you can use 'dpkg -P <package>' to remove configs. To purge all config files of all removed packages: aptitude purge '~c', or see <confmiss> about restoring individual config files |
| 09:01.45 | Haris | First, I ran aptitude remove --purge debbugs (granted --purge doesn't work), the package status changed to rc. Now I can aptitude purge debbugs and its status changed to pn |
| 09:02.00 | jelly-home | use dpkg. |
| 09:02.01 | Haris | How can I change it to un? |
| 09:02.45 | j45on | Hi, I received an error shown (multiple times) whenever I restart or shutdown Debian. The error that appeared is 'acx: unknown EID 45 / 61 in mgmt frame at offset 196. IE: 3D 16 01 05 03...'. Previously I have successfully installed a driver for dlink dwl650+ in debian using the driver from acx100. How do I solve this error? |
| 09:02.46 | Haris | Well, the status of the package is still pn |
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| 09:02.54 | Eulex | Haris, why would you want to? |
| 09:02.56 | jelly-home | Haris: that's ok. |
| 09:02.59 | Haris | # dpkg -P debbugs |
| 09:03.00 | Haris | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove debbugs which isn't installed. |
| 09:03.17 | Eulex | Haris, pn is the correct status |
| 09:03.20 | Haris | mental satisfaction? :p |
| 09:03.26 | Haris | isn't un the correct status? |
| 09:03.28 | Eulex | Haris, and it _is_ already purged |
| 09:03.33 | Eulex | Haris, u = unknown |
| 09:03.45 | Haris | Ok |
| 09:03.49 | jelly-home | Haris: "n" is the status. "u" and "p" are "desired state" |
| 09:04.04 | Haris | Ok |
| 09:04.14 | Eulex | so it records that you wanted to purge it. |
| 09:04.24 | jelly-home | Haris: that's what the first two lines of dpkg -l output so clumsily try to show |
| 09:04.42 | Eulex | ascii art ftw |
| 09:05.12 | jelly-home | yeah, only took me 5 years to grok it. interesting w. |
| 09:05.32 | j45on | Hi, I received an error shown (multiple times) whenever I restart or shutdown Debian. The error that appeared is 'acx: unknown EID 45 / 61 in mgmt frame at offset 196. IE: 3D 16 01 05 03...'. Previously I have successfully installed a driver for dlink dwl650+ in debian using the driver from acx100. How do I solve this error? |
| 09:05.48 | Haris | why would uspporting vpopmail remove courier form debian packages? |
| 09:06.12 | Eulex | care to be a bit more specific? |
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| 09:08.22 | casey-f^^ | moving 200 gig of files from one drive to another is REALLY BORING TO WATCH. |
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| 09:09.20 | casey-f^^ | as is downloading 75g of files with rsync. |
| 09:09.57 | casey-f^^ | i think the appropriate solution here is to go play wow while the processes chug. |
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| 09:10.39 | Eulex | casey-f^^, I'd suggest covering your terminal with a game you like to play. or go do something else |
| 09:11.06 | j45on | Hi, I received an error shown (multiple times) whenever I restart or shutdown Debian. The error that appeared is 'acx: unknown EID 45 / 61 in mgmt frame at offset 196. IE: 3D 16 01 05 03...'. Previously I have successfully installed a driver for dlink dwl650+ in debian using the driver from acx100. How do I solve this error? |
| 09:12.01 | j45on | or someone propose I just move back to MS windows? |
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| 09:12.25 | Eulex | j45on, does the error actually _affect_ anything? |
| 09:12.32 | Eulex | or does it just appear? |
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| 09:12.54 | j45on | the error appears whenever I start and shutdown debian with the card still plugged in |
| 09:13.11 | j45on | it appears in a long scroll down |
| 09:13.26 | Eulex | ie many times? |
| 09:13.38 | j45on | 40-50 |
| 09:13.43 | j45on | times each. |
| 09:14.06 | Eulex | does it prevent the system from booting? does the card work anyway? |
| 09:14.12 | j45on | yes |
| 09:14.36 | Eulex | and that was an answer to which of my questions? :P |
| 09:14.49 | j45on | your question, my question is how to remove the error |
| 09:15.09 | j45on | not literally remove it. Solve it. |
| 09:15.10 | Eulex | there was two questions in the same line there |
| 09:15.26 | Eulex | so I'm asking which you said yes to |
| 09:15.26 | j45on | The main questions is how to solve the error that causes it. |
| 09:15.34 | j45on | I am not here to play grammer or learn english |
| 09:15.54 | j45on | I suppose this is #debian? |
| 09:15.55 | Eulex | without giving accurate information to us, we will not be able to help you. |
| 09:16.13 | j45on | Eulex, I repeat again. How to solve the error. |
| 09:17.16 | Eulex | my only suggestion is then to try out ndiswrapper with the windows driver. have a nice day. |
| 09:17.30 | j45on | Can you elaborate further? |
| 09:17.49 | Eulex | !ndiswrapper |
| 09:17.49 | dpkg | it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to wrap Windows drivers so that they can be used on Linux (x86 or x86-64 only). If there is a Linux driver for your card, first consider that instead; if there isn't, ask me about <ndiswrapper one-liner> to set up NDISwrapper. #ndiswrapper @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 09:18.22 | j45on | I installed and setup the acx100 driver previously. That is linux driver right? |
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| 09:18.33 | j45on | If it is a linux driver, then its not about ndiswrapper? |
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| 09:19.08 | Eulex | yes, that is a linux driver |
| 09:19.27 | j45on | so ndiswrapper cannot solve the error. Do you need further information? |
| 09:20.05 | Eulex | yes, for example whether the acx100 driver _actually_ works with your card, or whether those errors you get are harmless. |
| 09:20.10 | cahoot | j45on: a bit of googling seems to imply you've encountered a bug in the driver - if that's the case there's not much #debian can do about it |
| 09:21.16 | j45on | I see, cahoot, I also found this url, http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/Distribution_list/Debian |
| 09:21.18 | wols | j45on: why did you use ndiswrapper with a acx card? |
| 09:21.32 | j45on | wols, I did not. Eulex brough it up. |
| 09:21.55 | wols | j45on: what driver do you use then, exactly? |
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| 09:22.04 | j45on | cahoot: under the Miscellaneous section, there's something about error and solutions for it. It is available for my error? |
| 09:22.09 | j45on | acx100 |
| 09:22.15 | j45on | wols: acx100 |
| 09:23.22 | j45on | wols: more information regarding the driver http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/Distribution_list/Debian |
| 09:24.33 | j45on | cahoot: would you like to add anything about the error? |
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| 09:27.31 | j45on | Ok guys. Thank you all in #debian. Its not easy solving the error and I suppose this is why most newb prefer to stay out of linux OS-es and rather pay for Windows so they do not make enemies out of peaceful people in the open-source society. Have a nice day. |
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| 09:30.01 | gordonjcp | j45on: that error you're getting - does anything bad happen when you get it, or does the card work correctly apart from the error? |
| 09:30.11 | bfrog | ok I got my wireless card firmware and wpasupplicant on my machine now |
| 09:30.23 | bfrog | and editing /etc/network/interfaces like on the wiki |
| 09:30.49 | j45on | The card work exactly as expected when it starts up. |
| 09:30.52 | bfrog | but I can't figure out how to get debian to actually do the magic |
| 09:31.30 | bfrog | running /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart didn't do anything |
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| 09:33.10 | Eulex | j45on, well then, those errors are probably only minor problems then if the card works correctly on linux with the acx100 driver. so what prevents you from using it? |
| 09:33.26 | cahoot | bfrog: does dmesg complain about firmware when you modprobe the iwl3945? |
| 09:33.48 | bfrog | not using iwl, using ipw and the daemon, and no it doesn't |
| 09:33.55 | bfrog | this is on etch |
| 09:34.06 | j45on | Eulex, my questions is how to solve the error. Its an error! |
| 09:34.11 | liable | so set it up manually for now |
| 09:34.21 | liable | bfrog: does it appear in iwconfig? |
| 09:34.25 | bfrog | yep |
| 09:34.36 | liable | bfrog: and your ap is wpa ? |
| 09:34.42 | bfrog | yeah |
| 09:34.56 | j45on | Eulex: its not stated in the wiki that 'if you see such error, please ignore it because it is normal'. So I presume its not normal and solve-able. |
| 09:34.57 | liable | have you edited your supplicant conf file? |
| 09:34.58 | gordonjcp | j45on: Solving it could be tricky. Do you know what the error actuaully is? |
| 09:35.01 | Eulex | j45on, you should contact the acx100 guys. but if it it works correctly anyway, I wouldn't worry much |
| 09:35.02 | Element14 | j45on: why are you convicinced that it's an error?? |
| 09:35.03 | gordonjcp | -u |
| 09:35.12 | bfrog | liable: according to the wiki I don't need a .conf file for wpa |
| 09:35.20 | Eulex | j45on, do not assume that the wiki is 100% accyrate |
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| 09:35.27 | liable | bfrog: whats the url you are following |
| 09:35.39 | bfrog | http://wiki.debian.org/WPA |
| 09:35.48 | bfrog | the README.modes |
| 09:35.48 | gordonjcp | WPA is made of fail |
| 09:35.50 | bfrog | for etch |
| 09:35.54 | j45on | it's at least 99% accurate seemingly how the driver is already working except for an error. |
| 09:36.06 | gordonjcp | j45on: it doesn't sound like an error |
| 09:36.09 | gordonjcp | it sounds more like a warning |
| 09:36.20 | bfrog | gordonjcp: have a better solution? |
| 09:36.22 | Element14 | or maybe even a debug message (for the devs)... |
| 09:36.23 | gordonjcp | if the card works apart from a message every so often, I wouldn't really call that an error |
| 09:36.28 | j45on | You have got to ask the Debian OS running on the laptop, gordonjcp. |
| 09:36.47 | gordonjcp | bfrog: either WEP or no encryption, and encrypt the traffic *before* it hits the air interface |
| 09:36.49 | j45on | Warning, so it's not normal. |
| 09:37.09 | bfrog | anyone can connect then |
| 09:37.10 | gordonjcp | j45on: when did you last check the oil in your car/ |
| 09:37.12 | gordonjcp | ? |
| 09:37.15 | j45on | Are we going to have to debate on whether we should solve it when tis an error and not solve it when its a warning? |
| 09:37.21 | gordonjcp | bfrog: they might connect, they won't get anywhere though |
| 09:37.22 | Element14 | j45on: no |
| 09:37.31 | j45on | If we do, I need to be in #english instead. |
| 09:37.46 | Element14 | if you want a solution, just go edit the kernel sources and comment out the printk |
| 09:37.51 | gordonjcp | j45on: if your card is working, I wouldn't worry about it |
| 09:38.05 | Eulex | j45on, I would (1) continue using it as it is (2) alert the acx100 developers about these messages |
| 09:38.09 | bfrog | gordonjcp: well unfortunately for you, most places don't agree with that idea |
| 09:38.11 | j45on | Element14: the point is, I..sigh. |
| 09:38.14 | liable | bfrog: can you see your ap when you scan? |
| 09:38.14 | gordonjcp | j45on: if you really really want to get rid of the error, figure out what it's complaining about, and modify the driver to suit |
| 09:38.36 | bfrog | yep |
| 09:38.51 | j45on | in which I am trying to figure out what its complaining about by asking if anyone of you here know what 'acx: unknown EID 45 / 61 in mgmt frame at offset 196. IE: 3D 16 01 05 03...' is all about. |
| 09:39.03 | gordonjcp | j45on: yes |
| 09:39.08 | gordonjcp | I know *exactly* what it's about |
| 09:39.15 | j45on | what is it about? =) |
| 09:39.24 | liable | bfrog: ok, /j flood and i'll give you 4 lines to stick in a conf file to get wpasupp working |
| 09:39.25 | bfrog | my school for example, opted for a very convoluted wpa-eap ttls 802.11x setup |
| 09:39.26 | gordonjcp | the driver is seeing something in a response from a card that it doesn't know how to handle |
| 09:39.34 | gordonjcp | bfrog: I don't understand why they do that |
| 09:39.41 | Eulex | j45on, my point is that the acx100 developers are infinitely more likely to know how to 'solve' it |
| 09:39.46 | wols | j45on: I use that driver too here (with a pcmcia card) |
| 09:39.48 | wols | worked so far |
| 09:40.03 | wols | so tell us WHAT the error says |
| 09:40.16 | gordonjcp | bfrog: if your data is important enough that you need to be reasonably secure in how you access it, keep it off a wireless network |
| 09:40.21 | j45on | Eulex: thanks! that is a second solution after #debian. |
| 09:40.22 | gordonjcp | it's pretty simple |
| 09:40.48 | gordonjcp | j45on: now what you *could* do is work out where it figures out what to do with an EID |
| 09:40.49 | j45on | gordonjcp: ok I'm a little nearer to understanding it now. |
| 09:41.09 | gordonjcp | j45on: incidentally I don't have one of these cards, and I don't know what an EID is in this context |
| 09:41.12 | gordonjcp | but |
| 09:41.25 | j45on | gordonjcp and wols: i am going to restart/shutdown the laptop again and get the exact error. |
| 09:41.40 | gordonjcp | work out what the driver does with an EID, work out why it can't decide what to do with *this* EID, and add a bit of code to handle it |
| 09:41.48 | j45on | unless there's a log that keeps the warning somewhere in Debian? |
| 09:41.49 | gordonjcp | j45on: why would restarting affect it? |
| 09:41.55 | gordonjcp | j45on: probably dmesg |
| 09:41.59 | j45on | gordonjcp: so can see the error? |
| 09:42.27 | gordonjcp | j45on: now if you add a bit of code to catch the EID that it's complaining about, all that needs to be is a bit of stub code |
| 09:42.40 | j45on | where can I mine the log file? |
| 09:42.46 | gordonjcp | type "dmesg" |
| 09:42.57 | j45on | in terminal? I am in Gnome now. |
| 09:43.03 | bfrog | gordonjcp: I'd rather not let everyone and their mom on my wireless, especially since I'm right next to 3 bars and a couple cafe's |
| 09:43.07 | bfrog | I had opened it up once |
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| 09:43.18 | bfrog | in 1hr, I had ran out of dhcp addresses, all 200 of them |
| 09:43.27 | Eulex | j45on, that doesn't prevent you from opening a terminal. |
| 09:43.46 | j45on | Eulex, I'm really new to Linux and the codes. |
| 09:43.50 | j45on | =( |
| 09:44.00 | j45on | Which I wish I am not. |
| 09:44.10 | se7en | if i download a debian iso gnome is the default ... is there a kde iso ... because i don't like gnome |
| 09:44.30 | gordonjcp | bfrog: well your choices are - use WEP, which theoretically can be cracked fairly quickly by someone reasonably skilled and fairly patient, who really really has nothing better to do |
| 09:44.57 | Eulex | j45on, you should be able to open a terminal by finding and clicking at it in the accessories or system tools in the applications menu |
| 09:45.12 | gordonjcp | bfrog: or use WPA, which is slow, unreliable, difficult to get working, and completely bloody pointless unless you're doing the full 802.11x thing |
| 09:45.18 | Eulex | gordonjcp, iirc in 5 min with appropriate data flow |
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| 09:45.30 | gordonjcp | Eulex: best case |
| 09:45.44 | gordonjcp | Eulex: I've never done it in less than 15, even on really busy networks |
| 09:45.48 | gordonjcp | Eulex: and this is what I *do* |
| 09:45.52 | j45on | because of the error, it now takes 20 seconds longer to load debian. Will get the log files in a sec |
| 09:45.52 | Eulex | oh, ok |
| 09:46.06 | nevyn | se7en: debian doesn't make policy decisions on what desktop you install. |
| 09:46.11 | gordonjcp | Eulex: otoh I've seen WPA cracked incredibly quickly, although I suspect cheating may be involved |
| 09:46.29 | Eulex | gordonjcp, yeah, wpa is supposed to be quite more secure, right? |
| 09:46.32 | gordonjcp | on account of how it was a demo by a manufacturer of wireless equipment |
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| 09:46.39 | cahoot | gordonjcp: illusiondestroyer |
| 09:46.41 | nevyn | se7en: the "desktop" task is a mixture of "best of breed" software from both the debian and kde projects. |
| 09:46.48 | gordonjcp | Eulex: yes, but if you use it as a drop-in WEP replacement, it's still not that great |
| 09:46.59 | Eulex | yeah |
| 09:47.12 | j45on | ok I got it. brb |
| 09:47.19 | wols | gordonjcp: badly chosen wpa passwords iirc |
| 09:47.24 | gordonjcp | I think it's fairly safe to discount the "cracked wep in 5 mins" thing, because it was being done with one manufacturer's equipment, *by that manufacturer* |
| 09:47.46 | wols | gordonjcp: wep is cracked that fast. more or less |
| 09:47.55 | gordonjcp | ie. access to suitably kinky firmware etc |
| 09:47.56 | wols | wpa usually isn't |
| 09:48.01 | gordonjcp | wols: if anyone can be bothered |
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| 09:48.23 | wols | no, the wpa crack is real. the algorithm has some weakness that sometimes shows |
| 09:48.28 | jelly-home | gordonjcp: I haven't seen wpa to be unreliable. |
| 09:48.39 | wols | all of wireless security isn't designed very well unfrotunately |
| 09:48.45 | gordonjcp | wols: incidentally, if you look at high-end point-to-point kit, none of that has WPA |
| 09:48.53 | se7en | nevyn: ok i got that image http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/bt-cd/debian-testing-i386-CD-1.iso.torrent and it installes gnome ... i can off course apt-get install kde-desktop but my internet is not that fast so i would rather install debian kde |
| 09:48.53 | gordonjcp | it's nothing, WEP or AES |
| 09:49.08 | wols | gordonjcp: yes. ssl or ipsec is the only way to go for security |
| 09:49.15 | Eulex | I don't encrypt my wireless home network. hidden essid is enough to have kept out anyone so far. and I use encryption for all sensitive data |
| 09:49.17 | bolt | when I try to use strange ascii characters in my bash prompt (for frames and such) in the console, I get things like Ä and the plus-minus sign and such instead. Why doesn't \333 draw a square for me? |
| 09:49.17 | wols | AES is wpa |
| 09:49.35 | gordonjcp | in generally with p-to-p you're expected to either encrypt the traffic over the air before it hits the bridge, *or* not care ;-) |
| 09:49.35 | wols | WPA can use TKIP or AES |
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| 09:49.40 | gordonjcp | wols: WPA contains AES |
| 09:49.43 | Eulex | gordonjcp, isn't wpa generally done in sw? |
| 09:49.58 | wols | usually yes. it's cheaper :) |
| 09:49.59 | gordonjcp | Eulex: can do |
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| 09:50.07 | gordonjcp | that's one of the reasons I don't like it ;-) |
| 09:50.19 | bolt | Eulex: hidden ssid is only hidden until someone deauths you |
| 09:50.21 | gordonjcp | I want my CPU for doing real work, not mangling packets |
| 09:50.23 | wols | but of course AES can be put into hardware |
| 09:50.32 | gordonjcp | bolt: indeed |
| 09:50.34 | wols | hidden ssid is useless |
| 09:50.41 | gordonjcp | and also hidden ssid breaks a lot of stuff |
| 09:50.45 | gordonjcp | particularly older cards |
| 09:50.56 | gordonjcp | it "works" but mostly by chance ;-) |
| 09:51.22 | Eulex | well, someone would have to be standing at the street between this house and the other ones to even be able to connect to the network anyways, so I don't really care about it. |
| 09:51.26 | Gnine | you guys need hardware upgrades |
| 09:51.31 | gordonjcp | I use 64-bit WEP because I have one piece of kit that only supports 64-bit WEP |
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| 09:51.34 | bolt | it's like "hi bob. shush. i shouldn't say your name. let's talk about secret stuff" ... <deauth> ... "HELLO EVERYONE! I WAS TALKING TO BOB! IS BOB HERE? BOOOOOB?" |
| 09:51.36 | j45on | I cant copy files in the desktop to my pendrive. says no permission. |
| 09:51.44 | goudkov | hi guys. is there a way to install glib 2.4 on sarge? |
| 09:51.53 | Eulex | perhaps the nearest neighbours would be able to connect to it too, but that's it |
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| 09:51.58 | j45on | what is the path to desktop? |
| 09:51.59 | jelly-home | Meh. WPA works for me and does not add perceptible CPU load. |
| 09:52.35 | gordonjcp | I've never had problems with people poking my network at home, but then I don't live in an area with a high proportion of people likely to try it |
| 09:52.40 | Gnine | not so Eulex .. unless they 'knew' stuff |
| 09:52.43 | Eulex | bolt, it's mostly to keep clueless people out |
| 09:52.51 | gordonjcp | Eulex: exactly |
| 09:52.54 | j45on | is the desktop path /home/user/desktop? Its not working. |
| 09:53.17 | gordonjcp | j45on: /home/user/Desktop |
| 09:53.18 | jelly-home | j45on: capital D |
| 09:53.36 | neofoan | i have a script for rsync backup which i called myrsync. how to make it executable from the panel? |
| 09:54.00 | casey-f^^ | networks i can see from my living room include such enlightening names as "iranigr" and "dumbass" ... i'm not seriously worried about those people poking around my wlan. |
| 09:54.11 | Eulex | Gnine, you're referring to special antennas and stuff? |
| 09:54.16 | j45on | What is the path to my pendrive? |
| 09:54.33 | bolt | neofoan: what panel? |
| 09:54.41 | jelly-home | j45on: run df and figure it out :-) |
| 09:54.52 | neofoan | bolt, the main panel, at the bottom of the screen. |
| 09:55.19 | Gnine | directional ? not really.. have a laptop pick on available local networks |
| 09:55.37 | bolt | neofoan: ... gnome/kde/other? try right-clicking and see if there's a menu. there's no one panel to put at the bottom of the screen |
| 09:55.51 | j45on | To copy paste file; # cp Unsaved Document 1 /dev/sda1 ? |
| 09:56.40 | j45on | says not a directory. )=< |
| 09:56.45 | neofoan | bolt, it is a script. i want to make an entry for it in the kde main menu. |
| 09:56.46 | jelly-home | j45on: the path is on the right side of df output. possibly something like /media/usb0 |
| 09:56.49 | Eulex | j45on, /dev/sda1 is a device file. that won't work. also, you need to escape the spaces in the file name. |
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| 09:57.32 | bolt | neofoan: i understand it's a script. what you have to realize is that when you say "panel" people wont automatically know you're using kde. try #kde |
| 09:57.47 | Eulex | Gnine, while standing on the road outside my house? :> |
| 09:57.55 | j45on | 'Unsaved Document 1' rather than Unsaved Document 1? |
| 09:58.04 | neofoan | bolt, you know nuts. |
| 09:58.14 | Gnine | if your battery life allows for such ... |
| 09:58.17 | Gnine | :-P |
| 09:58.32 | j45on | or "Unsved Document 1"? |
| 09:58.39 | Eulex | j45on, any of those |
| 09:58.50 | Eulex | j45on, Unsaved\ Document\ 1 is another option |
| 09:59.06 | bolt | seriously... if you don't understand kde, you should run mac os 9 or something. |
| 09:59.08 | bolt | :/ |
| 09:59.16 | Zharf | o.O |
| 09:59.23 | j45on | It still says not a directory |
| 09:59.33 | Eulex | j45on, where are you copying to? |
| 09:59.41 | j45on | to my pendrive |
| 09:59.55 | Eulex | well, but to what directory are you telling it to copy |
| 09:59.57 | bolt | except throwing your system folder into the garbage can, there's not really much wrong you can do in mac os 9 |
| 09:59.59 | j45on | the df also says mounted on /media/<pendrive name> |
| 10:00.34 | Eulex | j45on, /media/<pendrive name> is the directory you should attempt to copy it |
| 10:00.39 | Eulex | to |
| 10:00.51 | j45on | Tdf says /dev/sda1 7968756 7886640 82116 99% /medai/<pendrive name> |
| 10:00.55 | j45on | ok |
| 10:01.11 | Eulex | hmm, the device is full? |
| 10:01.12 | j45on | oh! |
| 10:01.19 | j45on | the deivece is a NTFS file system =( |
| 10:01.40 | casey-f^^ | that explains being unable to write to it most likely :-) |
| 10:01.43 | Eulex | you can't write to an ntfs fs from linux without special measures |
| 10:01.43 | j45on | can't copy file from linux? Its just a notepad. |
| 10:02.06 | Eulex | but you can read from it |
| 10:02.10 | Eulex | basically, you need to use ntfs-3g |
| 10:02.11 | jelly-home | j45on: writing to a ntfs filesystem, while possible, is a bit convoluted and not recommended yet. |
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| 10:02.23 | Eulex | and that's not entirely easy |
| 10:02.26 | Eulex | !ntfs-3g |
| 10:02.26 | dpkg | it has been said that ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. http://www.ntfs-3g.org/. Available in Lenny, but not for Etch except as a backport: see the package page at http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g, backport instructions at http://www.backports.org/ or ask me about <bpo>. not as stable as they claim. |
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| 10:02.33 | j45on | in this case, it's just a notepad, containing the error msg I need to show you people. |
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| 10:02.36 | j45on | lol |
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| 10:02.57 | Xaph | I am trying to install P9 [old school ircu] and am getting errors about res_mkquery. Google only shows other people having this problem with other software, rather than explaining what needs to be altered in the system configuration/library needing installation. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 10:03.10 | Eulex | j45on, perhaps connect that box to the internet? |
| 10:03.10 | jelly-home | j45on: have backups. and if you made backups, you might as well reformat to fat32 (vfat) which works nicely in both windows and linux |
| 10:03.42 | j45on | ok, i'll disable WPA (since the linux driver do not support WPA but WEP only for acx100) so the box can connect to the net. |
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| 10:03.57 | j45on | brb |
| 10:03.58 | egoleo | hello |
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| 10:04.33 | egoleo | i need acer crystal eye webcam drivers for my debian |
| 10:04.38 | egoleo | any help |
| 10:05.06 | Xaph | [i will add the note, the system i am trying to isntall it on is running debian] |
| 10:05.44 | cahoot | egoleo: usb? the usbid will probably simplify the hunt for a solution (if there is one) |
| 10:05.57 | egoleo | no |
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| 10:06.10 | egoleo | this webcam comes with the machine |
| 10:06.14 | cahoot | egoleo: not listd by lsusb? |
| 10:06.15 | egoleo | is not a usb |
| 10:06.22 | egoleo | checking |
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| 10:06.30 | jelly-home | Xaph: what is an "ircu"? |
| 10:06.30 | egoleo | yes |
| 10:06.32 | j45on | Where can I paste the code online? |
| 10:06.52 | egoleo | bcos ekiga sees it |
| 10:06.53 | Xaph | a chat server, currently used on undernet, quakenet, etc. but this is older than the current version |
| 10:07.07 | egoleo | but i want it to work with kopete |
| 10:07.24 | Ab3l_ | hi how do i force installation of packages who fails saying attempted overwrite of file xxxxxx? |
| 10:07.37 | jelly-home | Xaph: a complete error message might help, with an explanation of how you got there |
| 10:07.50 | Xaph | ok. give me a moment |
| 10:07.55 | Xaph | wheres that pastebin |
| 10:07.57 | jelly-home | Xaph: use a pastebin |
| 10:08.00 | jelly-home | !paster |
| 10:08.00 | dpkg | paster is your friendly Debian pastebot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste to have paster paste your results. Ask me about <pastebin> if you want to use another site. |
| 10:08.03 | Xaph | ta |
| 10:08.18 | j45on2 | ok here's the log http://pastebin.com/m3d95a2 |
| 10:08.19 | liable | Ab3l_: man dpkg, check the force options. not recommended unless you know what your doing |
| 10:08.30 | egoleo | i did lsusb and it gave me some plenty stuffs |
| 10:09.04 | j45on | Ok, I think I need t go. Any last pointers? |
| 10:09.11 | egoleo | http://paste.debian.net/48319 |
| 10:09.18 | egoleo | plse check for me |
| 10:09.31 | egoleo | which one is the crystal eye driver |
| 10:09.32 | egoleo | plse |
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| 10:09.37 | egoleo | and how do i know |
| 10:09.44 | egoleo | http://paste.debian.net/48319 |
| 10:09.51 | j45on | is FAT32 compatible in both WIndows and Linux? |
| 10:09.57 | jelly-home | j45on: it is. |
| 10:09.58 | casey-f^^ | j45on: yes. |
| 10:09.58 | egoleo | yes |
| 10:10.19 | j45on | ok, so I can copy files back and forth with FAT32 formated pendrive. |
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| 10:10.27 | xingu | I wish I'd been as quick on the uptake as j45on seems to be |
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| 10:10.30 | j45on | btw, anyone seen the pastebin yet? |
| 10:10.38 | j45on | hi xingu! |
| 10:10.48 | jelly-home | j45on: looks to me like "contact the acx100 driver people" |
| 10:10.51 | j45on | The driver is working already, bt some weird error came out. |
| 10:10.53 | xingu | what, a day and a half ago we were walking him through acx100 install, which was about the first time he'd touched the root cli I think:) |
| 10:11.06 | j45on | is that good news for me? |
| 10:11.15 | jelly-home | j45on: you deserve a cookie! |
| 10:11.20 | j45on | jelly-home: I will contact them then. |
| 10:11.35 | egoleo | drivers for acer crystall eye webcam |
| 10:11.39 | egoleo | anyone |
| 10:11.40 | liable | a pony, no less |
| 10:11.45 | j45on | I just hope the kid in which I am sending this laptop for a gift does not break down like me trying to use it. |
| 10:11.57 | jelly-home | j45on: but if it works, you can basically ignore it. Linux stuff is known to spew useless messages. |
| 10:12.21 | cahoot | egoleo: 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. seems to be the cam - uses the uvcvideo module |
| 10:12.25 | j45on | jelly-home: thank God Steve from MS doesn't know that. |
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| 10:12.32 | egoleo | oh ok |
| 10:12.43 | jelly-home | especially if "stuff" is "drivers in development" |
| 10:12.53 | eth01 | hiya btw |
| 10:13.01 | egoleo | so how do i get it to work with kopete or amsn |
| 10:13.05 | j45on | Got to go, thanks to Eulex and other after for keeping up to me. It must have been miserable. Have a nice day. |
| 10:13.06 | egoleo | any help on that too |
| 10:13.21 | cahoot | egoleo: if you don't have uvcvideo in place then module-assistant will help you install it |
| 10:13.28 | jelly-home | !customer |
| 10:13.28 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 10:13.54 | egoleo | so where do i get module-assistant? |
| 10:14.00 | Eulex | you apt-get it |
| 10:14.19 | jelly-home | finally used that factoid without any irony |
| 10:14.34 | cahoot | egoleo: try the info in /msg dpkg m-a |
| 10:14.38 | egoleo | it says is the newest |
| 10:16.23 | Xaph | jelly-home: Sorry, had to dart and help dad kick the printer; http://paste.debian.net/48320 is the pastebin |
| 10:16.30 | egoleo | oh sorry |
| 10:16.43 | egoleo | i am confused now cahoot |
| 10:16.49 | egoleo | i am new to linux |
| 10:17.02 | egoleo | plse any further help cahoot |
| 10:17.20 | cahoot | egoleo: ok - open a terminal, run lsmod|grep uvc |
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| 10:17.34 | egoleo | thnx |
| 10:18.06 | cahoot | egoleo: does uvcvideo show up? |
| 10:18.06 | egoleo | yes |
| 10:18.06 | egoleo | it give me some things |
| 10:18.17 | egoleo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.18 | egoleo | uvcvideo 42500 0 |
| 10:18.18 | egoleo | videodev 28160 1 uvcvideo |
| 10:18.18 | egoleo | v4l1_compat 15236 2 uvcvideo,videodev |
| 10:18.18 | egoleo | v4l2_common 25216 2 uvcvideo,videodev |
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| 10:18.19 | cahoot | egoleo: ok you can forget about module-assistant for now |
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| 10:19.41 | egoleo | cahoot |
| 10:19.45 | egoleo | i am sorry |
| 10:19.49 | cahoot | egoleo: ok you can forget about module-assistant for now |
| 10:20.06 | egoleo | ok |
| 10:20.15 | egoleo | http://paste.debian.net/48321 |
| 10:20.16 | cahoot | egoleo: you camera is recognised and the relevant 'driver' is loaded |
| 10:20.26 | egoleo | that was my output abt that command |
| 10:20.31 | egoleo | ok |
| 10:20.37 | egoleo | how do i know |
| 10:20.51 | egoleo | so how do i get it to work for amsn or kopete |
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| 10:20.55 | egoleo | any idea? |
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| 10:23.00 | cahoot | egoleo: a hasty google session seems to imply other have your probem, the solution seems to be latest possible versions of the apps you want to use |
| 10:23.00 | egoleo | thnx anyway |
| 10:23.20 | egoleo | oh ok |
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| 10:33.05 | Xaph | jelly-home: have you had a chance to go through my pastebin? I'm not the most linux-friendly person...but I usually get by.. |
| 10:33.58 | DustyBin | if you run a home server what is on 24.7, what kind of things do you check on it to make sure its running ok, and everything is going smooth as possible? |
| 10:33.59 | Xaph | i'm starting to wonder if its 'IRCDLIBS="-lcrypt "' |
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| 10:35.08 | dutchfish | DustyBin, it depends on what services you are running, manually controlling logs and or sending them to your mailbox would be a start |
| 10:35.50 | DustyBin | dutchfish: good idea |
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| 10:36.07 | DustyBin | dutchfish: i need some kind of log management systen |
| 10:36.49 | liable | logwatch |
| 10:37.07 | jintxo | DustyBin, I use munin to paint out some graphs and just look at them every once in a while. I's not terribly easy to set up but not hard either :-) |
| 10:37.23 | dutchfish | DustyBin, you already installed (by default) try to grasp its concept and tweak it to your needs, if its an important server, you could consider more sophisticated log system |
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| 10:38.30 | dutchfish | DustyBin, syslog or syslogng along with its rotating shedules |
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| 10:39.24 | ManuP | is intel core 2 duo also amd64? |
| 10:39.35 | DustyBin | aye thanks, logrotate is in action already |
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| 10:39.50 | wols | ManuP: yes |
| 10:39.59 | ManuP | thx |
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| 10:40.36 | johndoevodka | i did an aptitude full-upgrade by mistake and now i got sid instead of lenny :-/ |
| 10:40.40 | johndoevodka | how do i revert? |
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| 10:41.31 | iveqy | hi, where do I set what sessions I can choose between in GDM using debian? The /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions directory described in the gdm manual doesn't exist in debian |
| 10:42.03 | dutchfish | DustyBin, another nice tool is mon to control if all your services are up and take some predefined action if it is not |
| 10:42.46 | DustyBin | excellent ill take a look :D |
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| 10:43.08 | DustyBin | i guess logs are one of the most important things when running servers |
| 10:43.20 | Coke | Hi! I've been searching for information on Debian on laptops, but all sites seem to organize by laptop vendor rather than OS, does Debian provide anything like a compability page? |
| 10:43.33 | ManuP | i create an md5sum like this: md5sum /dev/cdrom -c foo.md5, don't i? |
| 10:43.37 | dutchfish | DustyBin, if your server is connected to the bad outside world, security is an issue too, there are many tools for that too |
| 10:43.54 | DustyBin | dutchfish: snort etc |
| 10:44.04 | jelly-home | Xaph: sorry, I was busy. man page for that function says linking with -lresolv should make it available. I don't see an immediate reason for failure |
| 10:44.14 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: not with -c |
| 10:44.41 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, ok |
| 10:44.43 | dutchfish | DustyBin, and chkrootkit, rate limiting etc etc |
| 10:44.49 | DustyBin | ok |
| 10:44.54 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: if you just want to create an md5sum and store the number in a file, try "md5sum thing_to_check > file" |
| 10:44.56 | DustyBin | what is bastion linux |
| 10:45.05 | DustyBin | is that like another clone of selinux |
| 10:45.25 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, k |
| 10:45.28 | jelly-home | Xaph: oh... I do. there is no -lresolv in the final linking step for some reason. the ./configure file didn't configure properly. |
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| 10:46.19 | simonrvn | DustyBin: selinux isn't a distro |
| 10:46.22 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, i first tryed with the -c option (which is check as see now). but there were errors on the console. so that means, i cant read the cd properly? |
| 10:46.30 | Xaph | jelly-home: understandable [that you can't answer while busy]. I appreciate you trying to help, but you're gonna have to break it down a bit more. Ok, is there anything you can think of that will fix this issue I'm having? |
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| 10:47.19 | Erik1_ | I DLed firefox and unpacked. starting FF now gives me teh error mesage that libstdc++.so.5 is missing. which package should I install then ? |
| 10:47.31 | jelly-home | Xaph: add -lresolv to linking options somewhere in the Makefile, possibly near -lcrypt |
| 10:47.44 | dutchfish | DustyBin, http://www.lurking-grue.org/writingselinuxpolicyHOWTO.html |
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| 10:48.11 | Xaph | -lcrypt isn't in the Makefile |
| 10:48.16 | DustyBin | thanks |
| 10:48.48 | jelly-home | Xaph: well, find out where it is, and add -lresolv as well |
| 10:48.54 | Xaph | ok. |
| 10:48.54 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: i'm not sure what creating an md5sum from a device node will do |
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| 10:49.07 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: is the cd mounted? |
| 10:49.25 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, of course. it simply said it cant read/open the file |
| 10:49.55 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: sounds like there's a problem with the file, possible because the cd is scratched or something |
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| 10:50.02 | Xaph | IRCDLIBS : Which extra libraries do you need [none] [-lcrypt ] (NEW) -lresolv |
| 10:50.14 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: where is the cd mounted? |
| 10:50.14 | Xaph | thats the only thing i can think of. |
| 10:50.28 | jelly-home | Xaph: a very dumb way around it would be to redo that step manually; in other words, run line 364 in the shell and add the missing library to the command line |
| 10:50.54 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, in /media/cdrom |
| 10:50.59 | Xaph | It has a config option in the building. 'make config'. I've added it in there, and doesn't error on that anymore. It shits itself in a different place now. |
| 10:51.08 | Xaph | /home/chatden/ircu2.10.08.03/ircd/s_user.c:2248: undefined reference to `crypt' |
| 10:51.34 | Xaph | hm. |
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| 10:51.49 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: hang on, i'll boot a computer with a cd drive and see what md5sum /dev/cd_node does |
| 10:52.12 | Xaph | encr = crypt(password, salt); |
| 10:52.35 | jelly-home | Xaph: man 3 crypt; add the missing include |
| 10:53.04 | Xaph | 'No manual entry for crypt' |
| 10:53.05 | Xaph | lol. |
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| 10:53.15 | Xaph | ah im not having much luck today. |
| 10:53.24 | jelly-home | install manpages-dev, repeat |
| 10:53.39 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, oh, that's nice. thanks. |
| 10:53.59 | jelly-home | Xaph: to cut it short: #define _XOPEN_SOURCE\n #include <unistd.h> |
| 10:54.37 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: okay. computer booted. creating md5sum of a small cd... |
| 10:54.59 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: well, it certainly comes back with a number that makes sense |
| 10:55.10 | jelly-home | Xaph: (\n is a new line, not two literal characters ;-) |
| 10:55.10 | Xaph | yes i have that now |
| 10:55.21 | Xaph | yes, i understand that :P |
| 10:55.37 | Xaph | i know bits and peices, just not enough |
| 10:55.57 | Xaph | char *crypt(const char *key, const char *salt); |
| 10:55.59 | Xaph | thats in the man file |
| 10:56.01 | Xaph | encr = crypt(password, salt); |
| 10:56.07 | Xaph | thats the line it craps out on |
| 10:56.23 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, the point is, that i dont know if the cd is readable correctly. might be that it has some scratches etc. whereas i cant see any big scratches. |
| 10:56.52 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, i just wondered, if the errors of md5sum are a hint for a defect cd. |
| 10:56.57 | jelly-home | Xaph: that's the function it couldn't find the declaration for, right. did you add the missing #include (and #define, it seems)? |
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| 10:56.58 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: on my system, md5sum works fine on /dev/cdrom |
| 10:57.28 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: so i'd say your suspicion is probably right. have a look at the cd to see if it's scratched maybe |
| 10:57.34 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, on mine it does too, without the -c option. |
| 10:57.54 | Xaph | it has the include at the top of s_user.c |
| 10:57.59 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: yeah, -c checks the md5sums against values stored in a file given by a path after -c :) |
| 10:58.06 | jelly-home | Xaph: but no define? |
| 10:58.13 | Xaph | but not the define. |
| 10:58.21 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: that's what "check" means here :) |
| 10:58.26 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, jeah, but i cant see any big scratches. it's only the "normal" scratches. maybe a dozen slight ones. nothing bad |
| 10:58.45 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, ah, okay.. so thats not good :( |
| 10:58.51 | jelly-home | Xaph: btw, what compels you to try building an old version of it? |
| 10:59.06 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: so if you had already created an md5sum and stored that in a file, you could check it. |
| 10:59.14 | Xaph | I was waiting for that question. |
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| 10:59.23 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, k |
| 10:59.42 | Xaph | For which, I really have no answer, except I prefer the IRCServices that came with P9, than the ones that come with P10. |
| 10:59.43 | jelly-home | !info ircu-ircd sid |
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| 10:59.53 | Almindor | hello again |
| 10:59.55 | jelly-home | !info ircd-ircu sid |
| 10:59.58 | dpkg | ircd-ircu: (Undernet IRC Server daemon), section net, is optional. Version: 2.10.12.10.dfsg1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 614 kB, Installed size: 1152 kB |
| 11:00.07 | Almindor | is it possible to re-pack an un-packed binary .deb? |
| 11:00.45 | jelly-home | Xaph: in addition, the old version might have security issues. Hopefully you won't run it on the internets. |
| 11:01.17 | Xaph | Hm. I removed encryption for passwords, and it flawlessly compiles. |
| 11:01.27 | dutchfish | Almindor, dpkg-repack foo |
| 11:01.35 | Xaph | jelly-home: it's not going to be an "come all, come all" irc network. |
| 11:01.50 | howlingmadhowie | ManuP: it's actually quite useful. first of all you create md5sums of important files and export the md5sums to a file, then you can run md5sum -c on the file and it will check to see if the files have been changed |
| 11:01.50 | Xaph | It's still being used by a few networks, with no problems |
| 11:02.19 | Xaph | however, those said networks have probably altered the code |
| 11:02.44 | johndoevodka | jelly-home do you know how to reverse effects of aptitude full-upgrade ? |
| 11:03.09 | jelly-home | johndoevodka: Yes. Restore from backups, or reinstall. |
| 11:03.16 | johndoevodka | :/ |
| 11:03.23 | Almindor | dutchfish, um.. is it possible to do this just on directories? eg: I want to unpack a .deb, fix one thing in control and then re-pack into a .deb again |
| 11:03.44 | jelly-home | Almindor: dpkg -b unpacked-dir . |
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| 11:03.53 | dutchfish | Almindor, dpkg-repack includes the changes |
| 11:03.55 | ManuP | howlingmadhowie, the md5sum thing is somehow funny. you "comprimize" any file to some dozen characters. this isn's always uniqe. so two differnt files could have the same md5sum, couldn't they? |
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| 11:04.45 | dutchfish | Almindor, or build a deb package |
| 11:04.54 | jelly-home | Almindor: basically: dpkg -x foo.deb foodir; dpkg -e foo.deb foodir/DEBIAN; do your mess; dpkg -b foodir . |
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| 11:05.20 | jelly-home | dutchfish: he doesn't want to install it, just repack |
| 11:05.30 | dutchfish | Almindor, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ |
| 11:05.53 | dutchfish | jelly-home, ok |
| 11:06.10 | Almindor | thanks |
| 11:06.57 | jelly-home | Almindor: do it in a fakeroot environment if you're not root |
| 11:07.21 | Almindor | jelly-home, aye, thanks |
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| 11:09.49 | Xaph | jelly-home: You can add me as a happy customer now :-) -- Thankyou alot. |
| 11:09.57 | dutchfish | jelly-home, how to resign it that way? |
| 11:10.30 | jelly-home | dutchfish: No idea, never needed it |
| 11:11.01 | jelly-home | Xaph: have fun with your irc notwork! |
| 11:11.08 | Xaph | it does work :-P |
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| 11:11.23 | jelly-home | It's irc. notwork by definition. |
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| 11:11.56 | Almindor | works nicely |
| 11:11.57 | Almindor | thanks again |
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| 11:16.38 | jetscreamer | wtf is update-apt-xapi |
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| 11:17.21 | jetscreamer | !find update-apt-xapi |
| 11:17.27 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'update-apt-xapi' (1): (/usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index) in admin/apt-xapian-index. |
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| 11:22.32 | ManuP | cu |
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| 11:23.27 | casey-f^^ | blah. still moving. still downloading. |
| 11:23.52 | spee_Der | At last |
| 11:24.08 | spee_Der | Debian 4.0r up and runing with IPv6. |
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| 11:24.47 | casey-f^^ | why does anybody bother. |
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| 11:25.08 | Spee_Der | Hmmm |
| 11:25.22 | Spee_Der | What to do now with the two other dvd's eh ? |
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| 11:26.10 | casey-f^^ | put them in your microwave. |
| 11:27.02 | Spee_Der | For how long ? |
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| 11:27.25 | Spee_Der | Do I remove the cat first ? |
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| 11:30.34 | Spee_Der | Cat don't wanna leave the microwave just yet..... |
| 11:30.50 | SpeedyG | turn it on... he'll want to leave eventually |
| 11:30.52 | jetscreamer | put the dog in, the cat will leave |
| 11:30.55 | SpeedyG | or have no free will in the end :D |
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| 11:32.27 | jelly-home | Spee_Der: you ... wanted ipv6? |
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| 11:33.25 | Spee_Der | I'm on IPv6 now, thank you and with the Debian 4.0 |
| 11:33.39 | Spee_Der | Thank you jelly |
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| 11:36.55 | Spee_Der | Wow. This Debian is sure quick..... |
| 11:37.05 | embkas | I have problems with playing web-tv. Each time mlayer starts downloading/buffering I get this message: stopped. System debian etch: firefox 2.0.0.10, Mplayer Mozilla Mplayer. |
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| 11:37.35 | person | hi all, does anyone have any guide for succesfull booting ANY LINUX from external usb sata hdd?? |
| 11:37.38 | jetscreamer | do you have the plugin, embkas ? did you enable contrib non-free and install it? |
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| 11:38.06 | jetscreamer | what format is the download?> |
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| 11:39.02 | jetscreamer | got codecs? |
| 11:39.20 | embkas | jetscreamer: mozilla-mplayer is the plugin - yes I have it |
| 11:39.31 | person | do you know how to set up boot for debian to boot from usb hdd ? ? ? |
| 11:39.34 | jetscreamer | got the codecs? |
| 11:40.05 | jetscreamer | person: you probably might need a kmuto installer with a late kernel |
| 11:40.24 | jetscreamer | person: but no idea.. |
| 11:40.28 | jetscreamer | !kmuto |
| 11:40.28 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 11:40.28 | embkas | jetscreamer: w32codecs |
| 11:41.00 | johndoevodka | jelly-home: how hard is it to reinstall? |
| 11:41.08 | jetscreamer | embkas: determine what format the video is and see if you have the codec is all i can think of.. or use another player to see if it works in that |
| 11:42.46 | person | I can install system on external hdd and even boot grub or lilo from this ext hdd but can't load the system |
| 11:43.26 | embkas | jetscreamer: the thing i don't understand is that it works, with the same installation on a compaq laptop, but not on my 22 teacher-laptop lenovo r61i.. |
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| 11:49.49 | Krooks | I got another linux distro on another partition. Is there a way I can start it in a vmware or xen ? |
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| 11:50.49 | jetscreamer | embkas: compare installed codecs on the 2 machines maybe |
| 11:50.55 | jetscreamer | or all packages |
| 11:51.19 | jetscreamer | dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt |
| 11:52.12 | Erik1_ | is there some apt-get command to find the full and correct name of a package to uninstall ? |
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| 11:53.46 | Bushmills | Erik1_: dpkg good enough? |
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| 12:02.24 | Facedown | how can i stop anything running on port 8000 |
| 12:02.37 | bowman | find out what it is and kill it? :-) |
| 12:02.42 | Facedown | how. |
| 12:02.51 | bowman | netstat -pan | grep 8000 |
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| 12:03.12 | Facedown | tcp 0 127.0.0.1:8000 0.0.0.0:* listen - |
| 12:03.28 | Facedown | i know its one of my django lightweight servers |
| 12:03.34 | Facedown | damn.. not sure how to stop it |
| 12:03.38 | Facedown | and django told me to go over here |
| 12:03.39 | Facedown | heh |
| 12:03.46 | petemc | you need to be root to use -p |
| 12:03.50 | bowman | right |
| 12:03.53 | Facedown | im in root |
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| 12:04.32 | petemc | does it no show the pid at the end of the line? |
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| 12:04.52 | tito__ | help with edimax rt2500 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4133/ |
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| 12:05.53 | kgoetz | dpkg: wb |
| 12:05.53 | dpkg | thanks, kgoetz. It's good to be back. |
| 12:05.57 | kgoetz | :) |
| 12:08.03 | tito__ | please help with edimax rt2500 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4133/ |
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| 12:08.39 | bowman | tito__: are you root while doing this? I think not ;) |
| 12:08.46 | kgoetz | tito__: arnt you using ubuntu? |
| 12:09.02 | tito__ | yes gutsy |
| 12:09.07 | kgoetz | tito__: try #ubuntu |
| 12:09.19 | tito__ | sorry |
| 12:09.32 | kgoetz | np |
| 12:09.36 | tito__ | and thanks |
| 12:09.41 | kgoetz | gl |
| 12:10.10 | ustun_ | hi, I am trying to clone the root partition to another. /dev/hda to /dev/hdc |
| 12:10.18 | ustun_ | would a cp -a work simply? |
| 12:10.20 | kgoetz | tito__: just FYI - you need sudo on the second command, not the first |
| 12:10.29 | ustun_ | then reinstalling grub on the new partition? |
| 12:10.30 | bowman | kgoetz: right :-) |
| 12:10.31 | kgoetz | ustun_: use dd is probably better |
| 12:10.37 | kgoetz | bowman: :) |
| 12:11.24 | ustun_ | kgoetz: other than the grub, there is no specific reference to which hd the linux is on in the filesystem, right? |
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| 12:11.52 | Bushmills | ustun_: /etc/fstab |
| 12:11.54 | kgoetz | ustun_: fstab (filesystem table) will probably contain referendces |
| 12:12.06 | ustun_ | ok :) |
| 12:12.10 | kgoetz | :) |
| 12:12.14 | Bushmills | and possibly the initrd |
| 12:12.18 | wols | what is the most windows like WM? in form of things like "start" menu only |
| 12:12.20 | dutchfish | hi, i am building a new package, i have a shell script that is run by root. What is the proper place to install this script? |
| 12:12.38 | Bushmills | dutchfish: /usr/local/sbin I'd say |
| 12:12.39 | bowman | wols: KDE? but nobody would want to use that imho |
| 12:12.39 | wols | needs to run under 128MB and be able to use iceweasel. all from a livecd |
| 12:12.56 | kgoetz | dutchfish: packaging probls should probably go to #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org |
| 12:12.56 | dutchfish | Bushmills, ok, and if its run by cron as root? |
| 12:13.07 | ustun_ | so ,would a simple dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc work? |
| 12:13.13 | kgoetz | wols: kde/icede (or whatever its called) |
| 12:13.19 | wols | icewm? |
| 12:13.20 | Bushmills | dutchfish: doesn't matter. specify path explicitely, or add to PATH in crontab |
| 12:13.23 | kgoetz | yeah, that one |
| 12:13.31 | enouf | kwm/kde wols , ime |
| 12:13.32 | kgoetz | 128mb ram... icewm probably |
| 12:13.33 | wols | guess I need to check how to create my own debian livecd |
| 12:13.34 | dutchfish | kgoetz, ok, thank you |
| 12:13.47 | kgoetz | dutchfish: enjoy |
| 12:13.48 | Bushmills | dutchfish: if it is only called by run, maybe into /etc/cron.d |
| 12:13.52 | Bushmills | by cron .. |
| 12:13.59 | dutchfish | Bushmills, yes it is |
| 12:14.00 | enouf | dutchfish: see my memo to ya? |
| 12:14.06 | wols | enouf: currently run a current knoppix on it. it even runs with 7MB free right now |
| 12:14.19 | Bushmills | or even, make as root a crontab -e |
| 12:14.22 | dutchfish | enouf, ? |
| 12:14.30 | enouf | dutchfish: /ms list |
| 12:14.37 | wols | but I still need a cx wlan driver so I basically need kernel .24 or at least create my own acx package for it |
| 12:15.01 | wols | *acx |
| 12:15.05 | dutchfish | enouf, i feel newb, how to read the memo? |
| 12:15.41 | enouf | dutchfish: i forget exactly ;-) |
| 12:15.50 | enouf | dutchfish: /help memoserv ? |
| 12:16.07 | enouf | i'll just PM the same for now |
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| 12:16.15 | bowman | xx /memoserv list etc. |
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| 12:16.54 | xerophyte | what does this status code mean un xen-hypervisor for dpkg .. i mean "un" |
| 12:17.14 | bowman | uninstalled? |
| 12:17.53 | xerophyte | ?? |
| 12:18.10 | xerophyte | bowman: i have upgade to that version from backports its shows up un |
| 12:18.13 | xerophyte | but the package is there |
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| 12:20.18 | bolt | how do I get the standard consoles (not X) to run with a nice VGA font, so I can display funny characters (squares, borders etc.) in prompts? |
| 12:20.31 | ustun_ | so, I will just do "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hda3 -bs=1m" to clone to the 3rd partition on the same device, can anyone verify that? |
| 12:21.10 | dutchfish | enouf, thank you so much! |
| 12:21.19 | enouf | dutchfish: no, thank you ;-) |
| 12:22.55 | enouf | ustun_: er if == input file, so hda3 would need to be the target to copy 3rd partition on hda |
| 12:23.13 | enouf | ustun_: and remove the - from -bs= |
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| 12:24.11 | ustun_ | enouf: sorry, I didn't understand. I am trying to copy the 1st partition to 3rd partition. |
| 12:24.19 | enouf | ustun_: my bad, you said "to clone *to*" |
| 12:24.46 | enouf | ok, then just alter -bs to bs |
| 12:24.54 | ustun_ | enouf: ok, thank you :) |
| 12:25.06 | enouf | ustun_: make sure neither are mounted |
| 12:26.04 | ustun_ | enouf: oh, why? then I should go with a live cd to do that. |
| 12:26.09 | enouf | ustun_: (i forget if it's 'm' or 'M' or doesn't matter, man dd, or info corutils dd, iirc) |
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| 12:26.39 | enouf | ustun_: i would. |
| 12:26.39 | ustun_ | because it is currently mounted, it is my root partition. |
| 12:26.47 | enouf | ewww |
| 12:26.54 | enouf | no bueno |
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| 12:27.02 | arabiannights | why is firefox so popular? canṫ you ocme up with your own linux only really good browser? firefox sucks :D thank you |
| 12:27.14 | ciphergot1 | How do you purge something whose .postrm script fails with an error message? |
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| 12:27.33 | bowman | arabiannights: try lynx |
| 12:27.44 | et | don't feed the troll ... |
| 12:28.03 | enouf | (i typoed above, it's "info coreutils dd" , added an 'e') |
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| 12:28.20 | ciphergot1 | it says "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 10" |
| 12:29.20 | arabiannights | bowman thank you |
| 12:29.42 | dutchfish | arabiannights, there are many alternatives in the debian repos, like epiphany and galeon etc etc, take your pick |
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| 12:30.38 | ustun_ | arabiannights: links2 -g |
| 12:30.39 | kgoetz | problem is most (all?) gui browsers on debian use gecko |
| 12:30.53 | kgoetz | links+konqueror being the two obviouws exceptions |
| 12:31.10 | ciphergot1 | kgoetz: epiphany as of soon |
| 12:31.15 | enouf | links2 -g ftw |
| 12:31.23 | kgoetz | ciphergot1: what about it? |
| 12:31.36 | ciphergot1 | isn't it switching away from gecko? |
| 12:31.56 | kgoetz | not afaik |
| 12:32.29 | ciphergot1 | http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=epiphany%20webkit |
| 12:32.55 | howlingmadhowie | arabiannights: elinks ftw! |
| 12:33.01 | enouf | webkit? then try midori |
| 12:33.14 | howlingmadhowie | arabiannights: but seriously, i find firefox 3.0 has solved a lot of the problems firefox 2.0 has |
| 12:33.27 | ciphergot1 | why is everyone feeding the troll? |
| 12:33.59 | arabiannights | howlingmadhowie thank you i am seriously tired of firefox how can i completely remove it from my linux? |
| 12:34.09 | enouf | !sunday |
| 12:34.10 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 12:34.19 | arabiannights | ciphergot1 please kill yourself |
| 12:34.19 | kgoetz | is one of those google links to a thing saying 'we are switching'? |
| 12:34.45 | kgoetz | keep it nice folks |
| 12:34.52 | kgoetz | (or flame properly ;)) |
| 12:35.11 | ciphergot1 | there's no "force" option to say "ignore a non-zero return code from the postrm and purge on" |
| 12:35.23 | ciphergot1 | and I can't see how to find out what's going wrong inside the postrm |
| 12:35.38 | kgoetz | ciphergot1: try the mentors channel |
| 12:35.51 | enouf | ciphergot1: add exit 0 to the top |
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| 12:35.56 | kgoetz | !tell ciphergot1 about mentors |
| 12:36.09 | ciphergot1 | I haven't written this package - I downloaded it from debian-multimedia |
| 12:36.19 | howlingmadhowie | arabiannights: the first step is not to tell other people on this forum to go kill themselves :( |
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| 12:38.02 | ustun_ | ciphergot1: b/c people don't like firefox that much? |
| 12:38.08 | ciphergot1 | howlingmadhowie: unless your purpose is to troll, in which case you can get three rewards (in the form of remarks directed at you) in return for such threats. |
| 12:38.45 | arabiannights | howlingmadhowie> :) |
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| 12:39.16 | enouf | heh, firepoop |
| 12:39.25 | hoxu | !feed arabiannights |
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| 12:40.46 | arabiannights | debian vs mandriva who would win? |
| 12:40.51 | arabiannights | haha |
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| 12:41.46 | Miten | I have regular cdrw disk (700mb) and on it I copied debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. can I use this to install on my PC. I have checked md5sum to match but may be due to bad cd surface it gives error about unable to read from media. |
| 12:41.53 | Bushmills | can't one set irc clients to also ignore replies to an someone on /ignore? |
| 12:42.10 | Bushmills | sort of annoying, seeing those dangling replies |
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| 12:42.31 | Miten | debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso is it for desktop PC regular CD media ? |
| 12:42.46 | ustun_ | Miten: did you just copy the file? or write the image itself? |
| 12:42.51 | Bushmills | maybe I should put the replyers on ignore too |
| 12:42.55 | Miten | I used NERO |
| 12:43.10 | Miten | I did image bootable |
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| 12:43.39 | ustun_ | yes, but can you see the contents when you plug the cd in in windows? or just the iso |
| 12:43.53 | enouf | Burn Image is all you need |
| 12:44.00 | Miten | let me check |
| 12:44.02 | ustun_ | imgburn? |
| 12:44.09 | enouf | you don;t need CD Boot choice |
| 12:44.41 | ustun_ | Miten: you should go to nero, then selet Open I think from File menu |
| 12:44.44 | ustun_ | find the iso file |
| 12:44.47 | ustun_ | then burn it |
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| 12:44.56 | ustun_ | you shouldn't tweak any other option. |
| 12:45.08 | enouf | Miten: you burn md5 likely won't match orig, pop the CD in and run "check integrity" or whatever it is |
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| 12:45.33 | Miten | I see bunch of files on CD in explorer |
| 12:45.40 | Miten | autorun.bat etc |
| 12:45.53 | enouf | so what's the issue? |
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| 12:46.05 | enouf | oh |
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| 12:46.13 | enouf | it won't boot? |
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| 12:46.30 | ustun_ | Miten: maybe selecting that boot etc screwed it up. see the instructions i wrote above. |
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| 12:46.42 | enouf | go back and burn it correctly |
| 12:46.51 | OXIj | how do i can emulate shift-insert press? |
| 12:46.58 | enouf | File > Burn Image == done |
| 12:47.06 | OXIj | i put something in buffer with xsel |
| 12:47.31 | OXIj | how do i can insert it into conser position? |
| 12:47.39 | OXIj | *cursor |
| 12:48.07 | OXIj | from a script |
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| 12:49.53 | Bushmills | OXIj: I use xclip to transfer from and to clipboard |
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| 12:50.00 | Bushmills | in scripts |
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| 12:50.32 | OXIj | and it can paste text into current cursor position? |
| 12:50.56 | Bushmills | what is "current cursor pos" in a running script? |
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| 12:51.05 | OXIj | in a gui |
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| 12:51.22 | OXIj | i want to run a script with a shotcut |
| 12:51.27 | Bushmills | it ins and outs to standard I/o |
| 12:51.35 | OXIj | and it should paste something |
| 12:51.43 | Bushmills | consider to look at swinput |
| 12:51.52 | Bushmills | that's a device, faking the mouse |
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| 12:53.02 | OXIj | thx |
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| 12:53.30 | winther | hi |
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| 12:53.41 | winther | is there a way to tell apt not to touch a packet? |
| 12:53.55 | Ab3l_ | strange thing: trying to erase an empty folder it says : can't erase folder %name% the file exists - options used -fr |
| 12:54.13 | Bushmills | can for example echo "you 50 > /dev/swinput to move the mouse |
| 12:54.18 | Bushmills | 'gtt |
| 12:54.28 | Bushmills | echo "u 50" |
| 12:54.52 | Bushmills | ehm... /dev/swmouse |
| 12:55.08 | wols | winther: not touch in what way? |
| 12:55.20 | winther | wols: that he does not try to update it |
| 12:55.31 | wols | !tell winther about hold |
| 12:55.35 | winther | there seems to be a problem with libxml2 in testing |
| 12:55.47 | winther | thank you wols |
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| 12:56.26 | Bushmills | OXIj: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/swinput/ |
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| 13:06.01 | OXIj | Bushmills, yy thx |
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| 13:07.26 | Miten | on boot it says boot from atapi cd rom and then says failure |
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| 13:09.16 | ali_ | linux is difficult |
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| 13:09.52 | ali_ | right? |
| 13:10.06 | ali_ | hi wfq |
| 13:10.07 | cbr | you are correct, sir |
| 13:10.27 | ali_ | me? cbr? |
| 13:10.42 | cbr | no, you |
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| 13:10.50 | ali_ | :) |
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| 13:10.53 | ali_ | any |
| 13:10.55 | ali_ | ... |
| 13:11.14 | nosrednaekim | where are the package lists stored? |
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| 13:12.21 | Ab3l_ | strange thing: trying to erase an empty folder it says : can't erase folder %name% the file exists - options used -fr |
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| 13:15.03 | Miten | hi when I boot using debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso burnt cd it fails |
| 13:15.23 | Miten | then it boots into windows and in explorer I can see cd contents fine |
| 13:15.35 | Miten | the dir tree shows up fine in explorer |
| 13:16.23 | ix | how did you burn the iso? do you get an error message? |
| 13:16.34 | Miten | no it burned fine using nero |
| 13:16.35 | Miten | on error |
| 13:16.51 | ix | disc at one and low speed? |
| 13:16.55 | cahoot | as image? |
| 13:16.57 | ix | at once* |
| 13:17.02 | Miten | I choose the as image |
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| 13:17.15 | ix | no multisesson? |
| 13:17.18 | ix | :) |
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| 13:17.27 | Miten | infact I can reburn if needed |
| 13:17.37 | Miten | but I doubt I made any mistake |
| 13:17.55 | Miten | otherwise how do I see the dir tree in cd |
| 13:17.59 | cahoot | checked md5sum of the iso? |
| 13:18.01 | Miten | input was iso image file |
| 13:18.09 | Miten | yes md5sum are matching |
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| 13:18.22 | Miten | downloaded file has same md5sum |
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| 13:18.32 | Miten | as on website |
| 13:18.36 | ix | well, the most obvious hint is it didn't work :) |
| 13:18.52 | Coke | I've been having problems with Firefox hanging when closing a tab or window that has active Flash animations in it. I have to kill it hard every time this happens (which is quite often). I have Firefox 2.0.0.11 and Flash 9 r115. My friend has the same browser and Flash version on the latest Ubuntu, I'm on Debian testing, how can I fix this problem? |
| 13:19.00 | ix | you're sure youre booting from the right device? |
| 13:19.57 | Miten | the cd shows up fine in explorer |
| 13:20.07 | Miten | with its contents in winxp |
| 13:20.35 | ix | that doesn't implicate the boot record works. |
| 13:21.03 | Miten | good question...dont know how to confirm...I have setup boot options as cdrom, c, a |
| 13:21.14 | Miten | then I have two cd rom devices |
| 13:21.28 | Miten | one is primary slave and other secondary master |
| 13:21.35 | Miten | I put cd in both... |
| 13:21.53 | ix | hmm... |
| 13:22.02 | Miten | when in primary slave it shows the booting from atapi cd rom prompt |
| 13:22.07 | Miten | and then says failure |
| 13:22.38 | Miten | when cd is in secondary master it does not even display message of booitng from atapi... |
| 13:22.45 | Miten | goes straight into xp |
| 13:22.57 | Miten | can I just run the cd while in xp ? |
| 13:23.07 | Miten | so it starts the install :-) |
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| 13:23.40 | cahoot | you expect XP to suicide? |
| 13:23.53 | Miten | gues |
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| 13:25.15 | Miten | 80mm cd is what is used by netinst |
| 13:25.24 | Miten | I hope I have downloaded correct iso |
| 13:26.08 | Miten | other available is business card cd...which I felt is not what I need |
| 13:26.17 | Miten | hopefully I have made right choice |
| 13:26.37 | Krooks | I got another linux distro on another partition. Is there a way I can start it in a vmware or xen ? |
| 13:29.13 | hoxu | Krooks, dunno about those, but user-mode linux could perhaps run it, not sure if some files would have to be modified though... |
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| 13:29.51 | Krooks | ok thanks |
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| 13:30.32 | jokull | what is the best way to get mod_python to run python2.5? recompile? |
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| 13:30.58 | enouf | Miten: other boot cds work? |
| 13:31.19 | enouf | Miten: is that an old PC? like a 586 |
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| 13:32.06 | Miten | yes |
| 13:32.16 | Miten | its old pentium mmx |
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| 13:32.48 | enouf | Miten: file -s /dir/image.iso and file -s /dev/cdrom should show you bootability, not to mention isoinfo (genisoimage pkg) |
| 13:32.52 | enouf | Miten: ahh |
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| 13:33.18 | Miten | intel pentium 2 233 |
| 13:33.39 | enouf | Miten: i have that issue too - only an OEM win98 CD, and an old DSL one will boot - recent grml.org, knoppix, debian all fail |
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| 13:33.56 | enouf | oh.. that's right on the cusp - my p2 350 boots anything though |
| 13:34.05 | enouf | the one i mean is an old AT p150 |
| 13:34.20 | Bushmills | me thinks gobby/sobby (collaborative editor) would be a great alternative to pastebins |
| 13:34.22 | enouf | it's a isolinux issue, afaict |
| 13:34.32 | Miten | what could be done then ? |
| 13:34.46 | enouf | Miten: you could try smartbootmanager on floppy then boot/load cdrom from there |
| 13:34.59 | Miten | well floppy does not work |
| 13:35.04 | Miten | I have usb |
| 13:35.17 | enouf | Miten: if your mobo can Netboot or USB boot you can do that too |
| 13:35.32 | enouf | usb boot though, which i doubt you have |
| 13:35.45 | enouf | not many usb 1.1 did boot also |
| 13:35.46 | Miten | I doubt since bios setup does not show any usb boot option |
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| 13:36.01 | enouf | right, not even my p2 does, though it can netboot |
| 13:36.19 | daidalus13 | hello. I want to see if mysqld is running. Anybody knows the command? |
| 13:37.06 | enouf | Miten: some generic SBM info http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Downloading_FAQ |
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| 13:37.38 | person | how can I add rootdelay option to kernel command line ? ? |
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| 13:38.25 | daidalus13 | hello. How can I see if mysqld is running? |
| 13:38.35 | ustunozgur | daidalus13, pgrep mysqld |
| 13:38.37 | asdf547 | top? |
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| 13:39.26 | daidalus13 | ustunozgur : its returns nothing. does this mean that it is NOT running? |
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| 13:42.11 | Spee_Der | I'd have a look using htop, it works in a terminal window rather *nicely* |
| 13:42.33 | Spee_Der | When in htop, you can scroll down the list of running applications. |
| 13:44.09 | ustunozgur | daidalus13, are you running as root? |
| 13:44.22 | enouf | Miten: guess you could debootstrap, or even do http:/goodbye-windows.com ;-) |
| 13:44.32 | enouf | er, add a / |
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| 13:45.34 | daidalus13 | ustnozgur: yes |
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| 13:47.17 | jokull | are there any rouge packages for mod_python that use python2.5 out there? (btw hello I'm new to the Debian channel : ) |
| 13:48.38 | ustunozgur | daidalus13, then probably not. |
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| 13:50.21 | daidalus13 | ustunozgur: thanks |
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| 13:55.43 | jelly-home | jokull: rouge? |
| 13:56.04 | xand | red |
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| 13:56.07 | xand | in french |
| 13:56.11 | jokull | not in the official package repository because they all rely on 2.4 (default python in debian) |
| 13:56.24 | jokull | rogue ? sorry |
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| 13:58.47 | Yarcanox | why does Nautilus STILL hide files from me when I tell it to SHOW all the hidden files? |
| 13:58.57 | Yarcanox | this strongly reminds me of windows, but even windows shows them when I tell it explicitely to do this |
| 13:59.18 | Yarcanox | why do I need to open a shell window, browse to the directory and do "ls" to find out that it still hides some bla.c~ backup files of the text editor?? |
| 13:59.22 | Yarcanox | I think you should really change that behaviour! |
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| 13:59.36 | Yarcanox | I'm not some dumb user, I chose linux to see what's going on and not to have it behave like windows |
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| 14:00.18 | themill | Yarcanox: ~ files aren't hidden files, they are backup files. (hidden files start with a dot). There's probably a separate option for that in nautilus. |
| 14:00.35 | Yarcanox | now in effect, they are hidden to me atm |
| 14:00.42 | Yarcanox | although I told it to show the hidden files |
| 14:01.04 | themill | yes, but they are not called Hidden Files and you asked to see Hidden Files, not files that were hidden. |
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| 14:01.27 | themill | Yarcanox: you could just use konqueror and kde instead.... ;) |
| 14:01.34 | Yarcanox | this is ridiculous, I think everyoone expects to see all the files when he turns that switch on |
| 14:01.51 | themill | Yarcanox: send patches or file bugs. Don't tell us. |
| 14:01.58 | BrNN | lol |
| 14:02.02 | Yarcanox | in the preferences, there's an extra switch, just discovered it. but this is really weird, even windows doesn't need TWO switches to haev it show all the files |
| 14:02.02 | xuser | Yarcanox: complain in #gnome |
| 14:02.33 | themill | Yarcanox: windows does. It has a show hidden files and a show system files as two separate switches too. |
| 14:02.56 | Yarcanox | hm ok, that's right. but linux isn't supposed to be windows |
| 14:03.07 | themill | Yarcanox: send patches or file bugs. Don't tell us. |
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| 14:03.56 | Yarcanox | themill I already joined ##gnome |
| 14:03.57 | Cr3ature | how do you see open sockets? |
| 14:04.04 | BrNN | Yarcanox and it's not windows, it has it's own ways of doing things, you just DONT KNOW. so quit being stupid since you already know how to solve your problem |
| 14:04.06 | hoxu | if you have problems with usability of gnome, maybe you ask Linus for commentary on solving the problem |
| 14:04.17 | hoxu | Cr3ature, lsof, netstat |
| 14:04.23 | themill | hoxu: :) |
| 14:04.47 | enouf | heh |
| 14:05.04 | Yarcanox | BrNN yes hoxu got the point :) I have problems with usability of gnome |
| 14:05.16 | themill | so use kde |
| 14:05.30 | enouf | !start a de war |
| 14:05.32 | Yarcanox | hm but kde seems slower to me :/ |
| 14:05.38 | themill | bullshit |
| 14:05.38 | enouf | !start a desktop war |
| 14:05.39 | dpkg | KDE is better than GNOME, period. |
| 14:05.53 | themill | dpkg: thanks |
| 14:05.54 | dpkg | gern geschehen, themill |
| 14:05.59 | et | !start an editor war |
| 14:06.00 | dpkg | nano sucks |
| 14:06.14 | Yarcanox | dpkg was that just something you heard from someone or do you speak German? :) |
| 14:06.15 | themill | Well, dpkg is running 2/2 so far ;) |
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| 14:06.21 | enouf | export EDITOR=dpkg O.o |
| 14:08.26 | hoxu | enouf, looks like there's a bright future ahead of you, as a MS server admin |
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| 14:10.13 | enouf | and you can be my lackey |
| 14:12.14 | johndoevodka | i did an upgrade from lenny to sid with aptitude. how do i revert? |
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| 14:13.18 | enouf | !downgrade |
| 14:13.19 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. |
| 14:13.57 | johndoevodka | OMG |
| 14:15.45 | johndoevodka | let me rephrase the question. I have all the old packages(lenny ones) source codes, whats the easiest way to put them back? can it be done automatically for all, or do i have to do them 1 by 1? |
| 14:16.59 | johndoevodka | i know im annoyin, but sid is just too buggy for me |
| 14:18.24 | themill | You can always just change your sources.list back to lenny and wait for packages to migrate to lenny and you will eventually end up with something like a lenny system. |
| 14:18.34 | themill | Alternatively, /msg dpkg reinstall |
| 14:18.39 | johndoevodka | thanks |
| 14:19.21 | johndoevodka | thats weird as all my repos are lenny |
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| 14:22.20 | johndoevodka | when reinstalling how do i 'force' old versions? |
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| 14:28.38 | jelly-home | you can't "reinstall" an old version. What you can do (if you have to), is install a specific version. |
| 14:29.03 | jelly-home | apt-get install foo=1.3-37 |
| 14:29.31 | jelly-home | apt-cache policy foo would show versions available for installation |
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| 14:30.10 | DDave | Is 78€ for a wrt54gl-eu a good price? |
| 14:30.29 | DDave | wrong channel :/ sorry |
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| 14:31.24 | mogggee | DCC SEND lololol_epicfail_lololololol 0 0 0 |
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| 14:31.45 | jelly-home | _epoch fail_ |
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| 14:32.30 | RichiH | abrotman, jelly-home, wols: if you care, oftc's #d-d is just having a discussion, atm |
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| 14:33.53 | themill | RichiH: your stirring didn't seem to help at all... |
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| 14:38.05 | dom_ | Moin! |
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| 14:38.57 | dom_ | Is there any script to convert a xpi mozilla extension to an debian package? We have to install quite a lot of them and it would be really helpfull to get at least a skeleton package |
| 14:39.32 | dom_ | I would script it mysqlf otherwise, but i just want to be sure that there is noc framework for exactly that in the moment |
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| 14:45.12 | wAndyw78 | Hi, what was the program, which could print stdout to stdout AND to a file. Something like: "myprogram --debug |split mylog" |
| 14:45.31 | asg | wAndyw78: tee |
| 14:45.35 | wAndyw78 | aah, thanks |
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| 14:46.08 | wAndyw78 | Thank you very much |
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| 14:47.14 | bolt | I am going to change the console font to one where VGA is supported. Which of the fonts in /usr/share/consolefonts looks the most like the "standard" font in the console, while supporting VGA? |
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| 14:56.11 | jokull | system hangs on boot when trying to start kernel log daemon (/etc/init.d/klogd start) ... anyone know what's up? |
| 14:56.40 | SpeedyG | hm, whats the name of tuxracer in debian ? |
| 14:57.08 | Maulkin | ppracer? |
| 14:57.25 | Maulkin | tuxracer is sort of dead, the new version is ppracer I think |
| 14:57.32 | SpeedyG | ah yeah, ppracer idd |
| 14:57.33 | themill | !info planetpenguin-racer etch |
| 14:57.45 | themill | dpkg: you're slow |
| 14:57.45 | dpkg | No, I'm not slow, I'm just overworked, underpaid, underappreciated and much maligned. Now STOP NAGGING ME!!!! |
| 14:57.55 | SpeedyG | dumb question anyway, google gave me the answer in a sec |
| 14:57.56 | SpeedyG | :| |
| 14:58.22 | Yarcanox | :p |
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| 14:59.14 | dpkg | planetpenguin-racer: (another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin), section games, is optional. Version: 0.3.1-8 (etch), Packaged size: 279 kB, Installed size: 740 kB |
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| 15:04.36 | metaperl_ | now to try to add this AIP video camera to etch... |
| 15:04.41 | metaperl_ | aiptek that is |
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| 15:08.56 | omes | i have a slow ipv6 connection to the internet, is there any way i can make all applications prefer ipv4? |
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| 15:15.05 | Spee_Der | Dang. My dsp won't share nicely..... |
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| 15:19.48 | Spee_Der | Ciao for now. Time for re-boot |
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| 15:23.39 | ``y7 | im trying to install debian and during bootup it stalls on an apic error. so i hit f3 on the installation screen and told it to installgui apic=off. now the screen is just all black. any ideas? |
| 15:23.54 | wAndyw78 | noapic |
| 15:23.57 | ``y7 | k |
| 15:24.09 | ``y7 | ty |
| 15:24.33 | wAndyw78 | perhaps acpi=off noapic |
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| 15:29.06 | d0uglas | i got two two headed nvidia cards. with twinview, will i be able to use all four screens or is that not a linux thing? |
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| 15:33.05 | d0uglas | hi |
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| 15:39.58 | Gnu_Raiz | anyone care to venture why I need to download the sun-java6.doc if java is supposed to be open? |
| 15:40.34 | Gnu_Raiz | I can install the sun-java6.deb, but a suggestion is sun.doc which you have to download. |
| 15:40.47 | Gnu_Raiz | seems strange. |
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| 15:41.43 | themill | Gnu_Raiz: sun java is not (yet) open except in the press releases they put out. |
| 15:41.49 | moshii | Gnu_Raiz: maybe that isn't "free" |
| 15:42.02 | Gnu_Raiz | its in non-free |
| 15:42.04 | themill | Gnu_Raiz: where is this sun-java6.deb from? |
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| 15:42.26 | DragoraN | hi |
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| 15:42.29 | Gnu_Raiz | but you used to have to download that was well. |
| 15:42.43 | DragoraN | how can I add gre tunnel interface to bridge (brctl) ? |
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| 15:44.12 | moshii | Gnu_Raiz: none of the java6 stuff here suggests a doc package.. |
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| 15:46.31 | DragoraN | please anyone? |
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| 15:47.14 | moshii | DragoraN: have you googled for this at least? |
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| 15:47.33 | DragoraN | yes |
| 15:48.02 | sebastian^ | hey all |
| 15:48.09 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 15:48.38 | limpio | hi all, i just installed fluxbox and menu in lenny, but the menu does not come out when i right click, any solutions for this? |
| 15:48.57 | moshii | DragoraN: Don't you just do it normally.. a brige acts like a normal interfaces iirc |
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| 15:50.49 | DragoraN | hmm, any idea? |
| 15:53.00 | moshii | DragoraN: http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Adv-Routing-HOWTO-5.html |
| 15:53.28 | moshii | DragoraN: using your bridge interface as the dev.. |
| 15:53.44 | DragoraN | hmm |
| 15:53.50 | DragoraN | how do you mean "as the dev" |
| 15:54.28 | DragoraN | IPinIP supports multicasts? |
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| 15:55.44 | moshii | actually looking at this,.. the gre stuff doesn't bind to an interface as such, it uses the routing table to route traffice |
| 15:55.56 | moshii | s/traffice/traffic/ |
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| 15:57.53 | frog | hi, i'm trying to get my qc messenger work, but it fails. could someone help me http://www.pastebin.ca/890225 |
| 15:57.54 | moshii | DragoraN: I presume you know how this stuff works otherwise you wouldn't be trying to set it up.. |
| 15:58.01 | DragoraN | but also IPinIP does not want to add to bridge :( |
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| 16:00.21 | d0uglas | i have four hard drives which i want to raid into one big drive (no redundancy). is that raid0? and do I want the post-cmos pre-boot raid manager engaged or just tell lenny to take care of it with mdadm? |
| 16:00.38 | daniele_982 | hello all someone with a laptop sony vaio fz series?? |
| 16:00.51 | moshii | !anyone |
| 16:00.51 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 16:01.10 | moshii | d0uglas: you could use raid0 or lvm |
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| 16:01.59 | d0uglas | moshii: so i toss on ext3 plus swap onto the first drive, then configure the rest as lvms (logical or primary?) and leave the cmos triggered thing off? |
| 16:02.05 | daniele_982 | dpkg: this's a problem only for vaio FZ series . Brightness and fn-keys |
| 16:02.49 | Free-Thinker | lol |
| 16:03.16 | moshii | d0uglas: the cmos thing would be for hardware raid no? |
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| 16:03.23 | d0uglas | right |
| 16:03.43 | d0uglas | but i think it may be confusing debian |
| 16:04.00 | moshii | if you're not using it turn it off.. |
| 16:04.04 | d0uglas | intended to work with intel's matrix (windows) |
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| 16:04.34 | d0uglas | is it too late to change my partitions on the other three drives to lvm or do i need to reinstall? |
| 16:05.05 | pumpkin0 | daniele_982: dpkg is the local bot. It will not answer to normal text. And your problem is well know, but since sony is a bit problematic on solution is available. |
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| 16:06.05 | moshii | d0uglas: if you have the other 3 disks spare you can do a conversion easy enough |
| 16:06.26 | miss3 | i'm trying to setup a smtp relay with authentication. i've failed miserably to get any tutorials to work with thunderbird remotely (when the server is not on the same network as the client) does anybody have any suggestions for tutorials that will work? |
| 16:06.43 | d0uglas | okay, could you suggest an app for that please? |
| 16:06.59 | moshii | miss3: with exim |
| 16:07.06 | moshii | miss3: ? |
| 16:07.10 | miss3 | *i have had kmail working remotely. just thunderbird always fails. |
| 16:07.37 | miss3 | moshii i don't care what i use. i just need something to guide me along the way. |
| 16:07.41 | d0uglas | would parted be good for this moshii? |
| 16:07.46 | moshii | d0uglas: just create the lvm array on the 3 disks, copy the system there, boot from that and then lvm and add the first disk to the stack |
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| 16:08.26 | daniele_982 | pumpkin0: so no solution for my problem |
| 16:08.32 | moshii | miss3: well, I need to know what you're using, setting up smtp auth won't be the same between mta's will it |
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| 16:08.41 | pumpkin0 | daniele_982: just workarounds. |
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| 16:08.45 | d0uglas | wouldn't that have mirroring hard drives? i want one bigass unsafe / |
| 16:08.57 | miss3 | moshii i'm not using anything at the moment. starting from scratch. |
| 16:09.32 | daniele_982 | pumpkin0: for example. i don't know anything |
| 16:09.55 | moshii | miss3: you're prbably running exim then, look in more /etc/exim4/conf.d/auth/30_exim4-config_examples for an idea |
| 16:10.16 | miss3 | moshii i don't have anything installed* |
| 16:10.28 | moshii | miss3: you have an mta, it's required |
| 16:10.29 | pumpkin0 | daniele_982: you can the volume keys working by catching the ACPI-events. But i have never seen a working solution for the brightness. |
| 16:10.54 | moshii | miss3: if you don't know what that is I suggest you investigate that before going further. ;) |
| 16:10.54 | daniele_982 | pumpkin0: ok ok my volume is ok |
| 16:11.05 | et | http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ |
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| 16:12.11 | moshii | et: People that don't understand these things shouldn't do it imho.. |
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| 16:13.46 | soussou | hi all |
| 16:14.01 | soussou | I have a box with broadcom wireless |
| 16:14.03 | et | well, they'll do it anyway, so imo they better have a document that tells them not to setup an open relay ;) |
| 16:14.07 | frog | hi, i'm trying to get my qc messenger work, but it fails. could someone help me http://www.pastebin.ca/890225 . skype see only bt878 video |
| 16:14.08 | soussou | I was able to switch it on |
| 16:14.18 | soussou | using bcm43xx module |
| 16:14.48 | soussou | I also was able to select an essid and provide it with a wep key |
| 16:14.54 | soussou | but I am stuck now |
| 16:14.59 | soussou | what do I do next? |
| 16:15.03 | moshii | et: or they could just use their isp's relay |
| 16:15.11 | soussou | I tried "dhcpcd eth1" |
| 16:15.28 | soussou | but it says dhcpcd unknown command |
| 16:15.33 | moshii | soussou: stop flooding. ask your real question |
| 16:15.44 | soussou | anybody knows what I should do? |
| 16:15.53 | soussou | moshii: I am not flooding |
| 16:16.04 | soussou | I am providing as much info I can think of |
| 16:16.15 | moshii | soussou: you should run dhclient .. note client not server |
| 16:16.32 | soussou | moshii: can u please give me a command? |
| 16:16.42 | soussou | my card is identified as "eth1" |
| 16:16.52 | moshii | soussou: man dhclient |
| 16:16.59 | moshii | soussou: man -k dhcp |
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| 16:17.24 | soussou | those manual files are not written for humans |
| 16:17.36 | soussou | they are meant for some other galaxy aliens |
| 16:17.40 | hoxu | !enter |
| 16:17.41 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
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| 16:17.54 | moshii | soussou: if you can't read, buy a mac |
| 16:18.18 | soussou | moshii: I have a mac, but I am trying to make this other laptop to work |
| 16:18.25 | moshii | soussou: most network commands are very very simple... <command> <interface> |
| 16:18.29 | amphi | soussou: dhclient eth1 |
| 16:18.39 | soussou | cool, thanks a lot guys |
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| 16:21.30 | soussou | woow, it actually worked, thanks a LOT dudes |
| 16:21.35 | hoxu | how do you start a screen session for another user, as root? |
| 16:21.51 | hoxu | soussou, man 5 interfaces to make it run at startup |
| 16:21.55 | hoxu | ... |
| 16:21.57 | hoxu | !next |
| 16:21.57 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 16:22.21 | hoxu | I reserve the privilege of stabbing in the face with a rusty fork, when he comes back crying |
| 16:22.26 | petemc | hoxu: chown user `tty` ; su - user ; screen -x |
| 16:23.04 | petemc | hoxu: theres probably a better way than that, tho it does work |
| 16:23.30 | hoxu | petemc, something seems awry about that... and I mean starting, not attaching (although being able to do that is certainly nice;) |
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| 16:26.43 | hoxu | petemc, it seems to work, I'll give it that :P |
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| 16:31.37 | ktwilight[m] | is there a backport for debian etch installer? my pc requires 2.6.22+ |
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| 16:31.56 | Sheogorath | Hello everybody. |
| 16:32.07 | Sheogorath | I need some help about glx. |
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| 16:33.16 | Sheogorath | I installed TA Spring and successfully playing with it, but after one party, a error message appears : "Could not set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual" |
| 16:34.06 | Eulex | Sheogorath, very likely means that you haven't got 3d acceleration. glxinfo|grep direct ? |
| 16:34.41 | Eulex | !tell ktwilight[m] about kmuto |
| 16:35.01 | yang_ | Which is the iceweasel flash plugin ? |
| 16:35.03 | Sheogorath | Eulex: sirius@debian:~$ glxinfo|grep direct |
| 16:35.04 | Sheogorath | direct rendering: Yes |
| 16:35.11 | Eulex | Sheogorath, eh, odd |
| 16:35.20 | Eulex | Sheogorath, is glxgears running ok? |
| 16:35.39 | Sheogorath | Eulex: Yes, around 19000 frames per second. |
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| 16:36.07 | valdyn | !etch 2.6.22 |
| 16:36.13 | valdyn | !kmuto |
| 16:36.13 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 16:36.15 | DragoraN | anyone configured igmpproxy? |
| 16:36.26 | valdyn | ktwilight[m]: ^^ |
| 16:36.28 | Eulex | Sheogorath, do you happen to know what resolution it is trying to set? |
| 16:36.47 | ktwilight[m] | thanks Eulex and valdyn :) |
| 16:37.09 | Sheogorath | Eulex: I thing 1152 x 864, like my desktop resolution. |
| 16:37.14 | Sheogorath | think* |
| 16:37.23 | pumpkin0 | Sheogorath: did you switch to compiz? |
| 16:37.41 | Sheogorath | Ah it still runs. |
| 16:38.12 | Sheogorath | I'm trying to switch off and restart. |
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| 16:38.18 | yang_ | flashplugin-nonfree doesnt exist anymore? |
| 16:38.25 | webmin | Hi all |
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| 16:38.39 | Eulex | yang_, not currently in testing |
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| 16:39.15 | Sheogorath | Eulex, pumpkin0: Same error even if compiz disabled. |
| 16:39.33 | yang_ | Eulex: so there is no way to use my icewesel with flash?* |
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| 16:39.46 | Eulex | !tell yang_ about simple sid backport |
| 16:39.49 | pumpkin0 | Sheogorath: did you edit the xorg.conf to get compiz working ? |
| 16:39.52 | valdyn | yang_: flashplugin-nonfree is never going to be in lenny, use the sid package |
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| 16:40.29 | limac | hello, well I want a OS for animation (blender, you know creating movies and stuff) and for programming (is debian good for those)? |
| 16:40.39 | Sheogorath | pumpkin0: Not really. I'm under debian since 2002. I suppose that some options like composite or glx are enable in. |
| 16:40.44 | Eulex | limac, yes. |
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| 16:41.10 | hoxu | limac, do you really expect a different answer here? :P |
| 16:41.28 | webmin | I want to install debian etch in my notebook... i'm planning a network install, but how can i do that? |
| 16:42.01 | Sheogorath | pumpkin0: Do you want further informations ? |
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| 16:42.05 | Eulex | webmin, basically, just make sure that the netinstaller supports your network card (and sata chipset if any) and then just use it |
| 16:42.14 | limac | Eulex hoxu: :P well but is it rock solidly stable, coz I am looking for an OS to create and animated fil on |
| 16:42.27 | limac | film |
| 16:42.44 | hoxu | limac, if debian stable isn't stable, I don't know what is |
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| 16:42.56 | yang_ | valdyn: it comes in .tar.gz form |
| 16:42.57 | pumpkin0 | Sheogorath: i'm out of ideas. I got spring working after following the compiz-tutorials. They told me to enable composite which made spring happy. |
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| 16:43.24 | valdyn | yang_: the sid package comes in .tar.gz form? |
| 16:43.25 | Eulex | limac, it is in most cases. in those cases that it isn't, the fault is the fault of drivers. but if linux distros in general work, debian will work. |
| 16:43.30 | yang_ | yes |
| 16:43.36 | valdyn | yang_: bullshit |
| 16:43.42 | valdyn | yang_: its a .deb |
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| 16:43.44 | webmin | Eulex: i have an iso image on my desktop and i want to use this iso to install... can you put me in the right direction? =] |
| 16:43.45 | yang_ | http://packages.debian.org/source/unstable/flashplugin-nonfree |
| 16:43.52 | valdyn | yang_: that is a source package |
| 16:43.55 | yang_ | ah |
| 16:43.57 | Eulex | webmin, burn it.... boot from it? |
| 16:44.01 | valdyn | yang_: mind the source in the url |
| 16:44.19 | webmin | Eulex: my dvd burner is screwd |
| 16:44.33 | Sheogorath | pumpkin0: But the game already runs with compiz enable and no glx options are altered between the two launches. x) |
| 16:44.42 | limac | hoxu Eulex: ty :) |
| 16:44.49 | yang_ | valdyn: won't it break lenny if i try to install it....so many dependancies |
| 16:44.57 | valdyn | yang_: umm? |
| 16:45.02 | Eulex | webmin, perhaps use hd-media or install from an usb stick? |
| 16:45.19 | pumpkin0 | Sheogorath: brrr... ask the spring forum. |
| 16:45.27 | msm | I have usb keyboard support disabled in bios. I am unable to boot using any linux (debian, redhat) cd on my old pentim II 233 MHZ. I guess the iso images are not supported with this bios. should I be able to copy debain floppy disk images to usb memory and then boot using it ? |
| 16:45.35 | yang_ | valdyn: i am using lenny |
| 16:45.36 | valdyn | yang_: those depends are hardly versioned and hardly need anything that is not in lenny |
| 16:45.53 | Sheogorath | pumpkin0: Somebody do it before me, still no answer (Yes, I know to use "search" command on forums :3) |
| 16:46.01 | webmin | Eulex: my usb stick has only 2gb |
| 16:46.16 | valdyn | yang_: flash is binary only software, its hardly "compiled for sid" and you cant recompile it for lenny either |
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| 16:48.00 | valdyn | msm: cd booting works by the bios mapping a certain part of the CD as a floppy, that is not different on ANY pc |
| 16:48.22 | valdyn | msm: so either you did something wrong burning or your old pc supports no booting of cdrom |
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| 16:49.34 | msm | valdyn: enouf said that old pc has problem with iso images. I tried using red hat cd that comes with book and also tried debain netinst |
| 16:49.37 | msm | both fail |
| 16:49.47 | valdyn | msm: /nod |
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| 16:50.17 | valdyn | !ig |
| 16:50.17 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 16:50.46 | webmin | Eulex: i mean, is there a way to extract the iso files in my FAT or EXT3 partition of my desktop and boot it from my notebook using lan? |
| 16:51.15 | Eulex | webmin, not afaik, you need to lookup hd-media then |
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| 16:51.37 | webmin | Eulex: what's this? |
| 16:51.43 | Eulex | !hd-media |
| 16:51.43 | dpkg | To install debian without any removable media read this: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en You can get the vmlinuz and initrd.gz from here: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ (note these are for etch on i386) |
| 16:52.38 | webmin | Eulex: this is the internet installing, right? |
| 16:52.48 | Eulex | I believe so |
| 16:52.57 | heroxbd | webmin: usually called "netboot" |
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| 16:53.44 | Eulex | webmin, note that I haven't used it; I can just refer to the documentation like above |
| 16:54.13 | yang_ | valdyn: you know i tried all sorts of alternatives - libflash-mozplugin, gnash nothing will display shockwave flash |
| 16:54.18 | Erik1_ | what is a handy backup-on-DVD prog in debian ? |
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| 16:55.03 | valdyn | yang_: you only need to install the flashplugin-nonfree package from sid, i already told you that. |
| 16:55.08 | yang_ | ok |
| 16:55.41 | valdyn | yang_: no backporting, nothing, just dpkg -i file.deb ( and if that is even possible that a depend is missing, apt-get -f install or aptitude -f install after that ) |
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| 16:55.56 | yang_ | ok |
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| 16:56.25 | Erik1_ | do I need this HP printer stuff ? I use CUPS and turboprint for my CanonIP4200.... |
| 16:56.55 | yang_ | otherwise when backporting is deb-src sid line simply added on the bottom under deb-src lenny line, or must sid line be a substitute for lenny line? |
| 16:57.43 | heroxbd | Erik1_: try "$ apt-cache search DVD backup" It gives several reasonable results. |
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| 16:58.14 | ``y7 | i went to lunch while debian was installing and it froze on the "configure the package manager" screen. should i just reboot and restart the process or is there something i can do to get past this screen? |
| 16:58.35 | heroxbd | yang_: I am sorry. I can not quite understand you. |
| 16:59.03 | valdyn | yang_: you can jsut add that line |
| 16:59.14 | valdyn | yang_: though backporting the flash package is totally pointless |
| 16:59.37 | Erik1_ | heroxbd: thnx |
| 16:59.53 | webmin | there is one weird thing to... i'm connecting at my server using ssh and trying to download debian iso using "wget -c" but it's downloading only 10% of iso image and shows like downloaded 100% |
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| 17:00.47 | valdyn | webmin: a dvd image? |
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| 17:00.58 | webmin | valdyn: yeah |
| 17:01.03 | valdyn | webmin: change mirror |
| 17:01.04 | heroxbd | webmin: Why ssh for downloading an ISO? Any strong reasons? |
| 17:01.10 | DragoraN | what does this mean? Warn: The source address 147.175.66.151 for group 239.255.255.250, is not in any valid net for upstream VIF. |
| 17:01.16 | yang_ | valdyn: good i did what you suggested simply dpkg -i - http://openpaste.org/en/4957/ |
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| 17:01.37 | valdyn | webmin: "old" apache does not support large files, that mirror probably runs an old apache server without large file support |
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| 17:01.57 | webmin | heroxbd: I'm at my home and i will use my job internet to download... i ssh'd to my job server and wget from there |
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| 17:02.07 | ross` | um hi, i created a public shell server and i was wondering |
| 17:02.14 | ross` | how do i set space limits |
| 17:02.15 | valdyn | yang_: now apt-get -f install |
| 17:02.23 | ross` | so a person can only use certain amount of sace |
| 17:02.28 | valdyn | yang_: ( as i told you already....) |
| 17:02.40 | webmin | valdyn: 2.2.6 don't support that? |
| 17:03.12 | valdyn | webmin: its a matter of one support libarary, not the server itself |
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| 17:03.20 | webmin | oh yeah |
| 17:03.30 | webmin | valdyn: do you know any mirror with the new lib? |
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| 17:03.48 | ross` | can someone help me..? |
| 17:03.49 | heroxbd | webmin: O i c |
| 17:03.51 | valdyn | webmin: no idea, i dont download debian dvds |
| 17:04.18 | douglas | i activated nvidiafb in modconf, now everything's crazy.. can't unload because it's in use. how do i stop it? |
| 17:04.25 | valdyn | !quota |
| 17:04.25 | dpkg | from memory, quota is a Debian package for managing disk space quotas. It can be made to cap space usage by certain uids or gids; see /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Quota.gz (in the "doc-linux-nonfree-text" package) for a (slightly out-of-date) introduction. |
| 17:04.46 | ross` | ok so.. |
| 17:04.49 | ross` | that;s the only way |
| 17:04.51 | ross` | =/ |
| 17:04.57 | ross` | i didn't wanna use quota |
| 17:05.01 | heroxbd | valdyn:awesome... :) |
| 17:05.28 | webmin | heroxbd: what's O i c? |
| 17:05.37 | valdyn | !oic |
| 17:05.37 | dpkg | well, oic is pronounced like it is spelled "oh i see" |
| 17:05.45 | webmin | nice |
| 17:06.05 | heroxbd | valdyn: :) I have never seen such a cool stuff! |
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| 17:07.19 | douglas | need |
| 17:07.38 | heroxbd | douglas: Last time I did a reboot :( |
| 17:08.01 | douglas | heroxbd i tried that .. but it loads the thing on boot |
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| 17:09.11 | heroxbd | douglas: How about # rmmod nvidiafb or # modprobe -r nvidiafb? |
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| 17:09.13 | douglas | modprobe -r nvidiafb gives this - FATAL: Module nvidiafb is in use. |
| 17:09.21 | douglas | will try rmmod |
| 17:09.34 | douglas | same thing |
| 17:09.58 | douglas | in which file might i find a line to start the module? |
| 17:10.37 | heroxbd | douglas: I am not quite sure... How did you enabled it? |
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| 17:11.26 | ubd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:11.49 | douglas | herox: in modconf |
| 17:11.54 | heroxbd | douglas: #/etc/modprobe.d ? I can see a "blacklist" in it. What about a try? |
| 17:12.01 | moshii | ubd: wireless interfaces act the same as wired ones in most regards |
| 17:12.01 | douglas | k |
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| 17:12.24 | ubd | how can i search for them and select to connect moshii |
| 17:12.27 | screamingbytes | morning all |
| 17:12.58 | moshii | ubd: iwconfig and iwlist |
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| 17:13.12 | ubd | allright |
| 17:13.25 | napo | good morning |
| 17:13.32 | ubd | thanks ill try |
| 17:13.58 | douglas | thanks herox, gonna reboot |
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| 17:14.21 | napo | I just installed debian 4.0, anyone know if it comes with irc? |
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| 17:14.30 | heroxbd | douglas: good luck |
| 17:14.39 | SixT6 | napo: Depends which packages you installed with it |
| 17:15.01 | Gun_Smoke | New to aptitude.. I'm running lenny, and after adding sid main contrib non-free to install virtualbox following a how-to I've found, aptitude safe-upgrade wants to upgrade a whole bunch of stuff. If I do it.. I be running lenny with a bunch of packages from sid correct? |
| 17:15.07 | napo | hmm |
| 17:15.08 | Gun_Smoke | napo: Yes. |
| 17:15.22 | SixT6 | Gun_Smoke: No, you'll be running sid |
| 17:15.29 | SixT6 | =P |
| 17:15.35 | SixT6 | Or worse than sid |
| 17:15.44 | ktwilight[m] | Gun_Smoke, install virtualbox using the packages compiled from their site is best. |
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| 17:15.47 | msm | any one knows what CD image to download since existing debian iso images netinst gives error |
| 17:15.56 | jelly-home | Gun_Smoke: you'd be running testing/unstable in the truest sense |
| 17:15.57 | ktwilight[m] | msm what error? |
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| 17:16.07 | msm | my pc is old pentium II 233Mhz |
| 17:16.12 | Gun_Smoke | ktwilight[m]: Whats wrong with the virtualbox in the repos? |
| 17:16.13 | napo | i don't know which packages i installed, just downloaded the iso and burned it :/ |
| 17:16.25 | heroxbd | Gun_Smoke: If you only want Vbox and don't want Sid, You can download a deb pkg directly from VirtualBox.org |
| 17:16.33 | ktwilight[m] | Gun_Smoke, can't remember, but my installation wasn't that great using deb's repos |
| 17:16.34 | Gun_Smoke | jelly-home: Thats what I was thinking. |
| 17:16.38 | SixT6 | napo: Did you install base system, desktop environment, server package, and so on? |
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| 17:16.43 | ktwilight[m] | msm, what's the error message? |
| 17:16.45 | napo | desktop |
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| 17:16.52 | d0uglas | herox: thanks it worked |
| 17:17.05 | msm | ktw: some disk error 80 |
| 17:17.11 | SixT6 | napo: Then open a terminal window and run the following command: irssi |
| 17:17.12 | Gun_Smoke | ktwilight[m]: My first install is failing to load the driver. |
| 17:17.18 | ktwilight[m] | msm, run a diagnostic check on your hdd. |
| 17:17.28 | ktwilight[m] | Gun_Smoke, which driver? |
| 17:17.29 | jelly-home | napo: if you have network connectivity on that machine, you can install irssi for terminal, or, say, xchat for the gui. Both Gnome and KDE also have their own IRC clients, but I don't know how nice those are. |
| 17:17.32 | Gun_Smoke | napo: gnome correct. |
| 17:17.44 | msm | ktw: I am loading from cd iso |
| 17:17.49 | heroxbd | d0uglas: :) |
| 17:18.10 | Gun_Smoke | ktwilight[m]: Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root (I have and still nothing) |
| 17:18.24 | napo | cool, i know i updated it throught the internet while installed from cd |
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| 17:18.32 | napo | installing* |
| 17:18.50 | msm | ktw: I have two hdd and one is good while one is bad ....but it should not fail just for that |
| 17:19.12 | napo | do i need a backslash before i type irssi? |
| 17:19.18 | SixT6 | No |
| 17:19.21 | SixT6 | Just irssi |
| 17:19.22 | msm | bad one goes undetected in bios boot check |
| 17:19.27 | napo | k, nothing |
| 17:19.30 | Gun_Smoke | napo: You'll have either Gaim or Pidgin. |
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| 17:19.42 | napo | ok |
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| 17:19.43 | ktwilight[m] | msm, it's unlikely to be etch's installer. i have a p2 and it worked perfectly |
| 17:19.43 | Gun_Smoke | napo: no |
| 17:19.45 | SixT6 | Then type this: sudo aptitude install irssi xchat |
| 17:20.05 | ktwilight[m] | Gun_Smoke, you need to allow your user to be part of vboxusers |
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| 17:20.07 | ktwilight[m] | group |
| 17:20.15 | ubd | hello again |
| 17:20.19 | msm | ktw: actually redhat also failed |
| 17:20.47 | heroxbd | msm: Can you give the error message in detail? |
| 17:20.49 | napo | hmm, i don't see pidgin here or gaim under applications/internet/, ubuntu had pidgin... |
| 17:20.53 | Gun_Smoke | ktwilight[m]: new to me.. I haven't run across anything mentioning that. |
| 17:20.54 | hayalci | Hi there, I have an 64 bit system, running under xen. I wanted to test cracklib. Selected `zwieback' from american word list(wamerican). When I tried to change may password to 'zwieback', PAM segafulted ! Does it happen to anybody else, can you test it? If the answer is yes I'll investigate more and file a bug report. |
| 17:20.59 | napo | so your saying i gotta install it huh |
| 17:21.05 | ubd | looks like debian doesnt see my wireless card whichs intel 4965 i have the debian testing so latest version of kernel |
| 17:21.21 | SixT6 | napo: They are optional applications, you have to install them if you want them |
| 17:21.26 | Eulex | msm, actually, you could try an older debian release. like sarge. to see if it makes a difference.. |
| 17:21.31 | Gun_Smoke | napo: I guess.. |
| 17:21.33 | msm | currently i have xp installed no old pc on which I want to install debian. XP shows the iso debain image cd fne |
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| 17:21.42 | napo | cool thx |
| 17:21.56 | Eulex | ubd, you need the iwlwifi drivers and the appropriate firmware to go with it |
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| 17:22.15 | msm | eulex: redhat I tried is 7.1 |
| 17:22.21 | Gun_Smoke | ktwilight[m]: If I modprobe as suggested I get: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found. |
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| 17:22.27 | ktwilight[m] | o |
| 17:22.55 | ktwilight[m] | Gun_Smoke, can't remember :) but i know the deb repos wasn't working as expected. ya best off with vbox's site's package |
| 17:22.57 | Eulex | msm, that doesn't tell me anything, I haven't ever used redhat |
| 17:23.35 | ktwilight[m] | ubd, install the firmware, and make install the drivers from the iwlwifi site. |
| 17:23.47 | Gun_Smoke | ktwilight[m]: I was going to try to follow this how-to. http://chirale.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/virtualbox-ose-debian-install-howto/ |
| 17:24.01 | ktwilight[m] | msm, you're not following instructions to help yourself. ;) |
| 17:24.06 | Eulex | ktwilight[m], they are included with newer debian kernels. not sure about 2.6.22, but the debian 2.6.23 kernel includes it |
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| 17:24.21 | ktwilight[m] | Eulex, strange, my lenny doesn't :/ |
| 17:24.22 | msm | ktw: which one...I fail to notice |
| 17:24.47 | ktwilight[m] | Eulex, ah, my bad, i meant .22, not .23. lenny doesn't have .23 AFAIK |
| 17:24.48 | Eulex | /lib/modules/2.6.23-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwl4965.ko |
| 17:24.51 | Eulex | *shrug* |
| 17:25.03 | Eulex | ktwilight[m], I don't believe so either no |
| 17:25.13 | ktwilight[m] | :) |
| 17:25.19 | ubd | my kernel has to have it |
| 17:25.29 | ubd | still do i have to install |
| 17:26.08 | Eulex | ubd, you do, if you have a debian kernel older than 2.6.23 |
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| 17:26.31 | luca | hi, can someone please have a look at my conf and tell me what am i doing wrong ? http://pastebin.ca/890313 |
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| 17:26.40 | ubd | ok then thanks |
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| 17:27.40 | napo | so do i gotta do everything from terminal "install/uninstall/mount/unmount? |
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| 17:28.14 | Gun_Smoke | napo: Installed etch? |
| 17:28.33 | napo | whats that? lol |
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| 17:29.00 | Gun_Smoke | what release of Debian have you installed? 4.0 is Etch. |
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| 17:29.20 | napo | 4.0 |
| 17:29.26 | luca | i cannot access a shared directory from vista (the shared directory its a ntfs mounted on my debian machine) ... any other shared directoryes that i have works great except the mounted ntfs hdd any idea ? |
| 17:29.28 | napo | dec 2007 |
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| 17:29.32 | Gun_Smoke | gnome or KDE? |
| 17:29.37 | napo | gnome |
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| 17:29.49 | briantumor | hi |
| 17:29.58 | heroxbd | luca: maybe you should check the permissions. |
| 17:30.04 | dutchfish | !tell luca about ntfs3g |
| 17:30.17 | briantumor | wth.. why is there 813 people? |
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| 17:30.29 | Eulex | briantumor, because debian is popular |
| 17:30.31 | briantumor | slackware only has 264 |
| 17:30.38 | heroxbd | dutchfish: the bot didn't work? |
| 17:30.41 | wald0 | is there any reason that jahshaka is not in debian ? |
| 17:30.44 | luca | heroxbd i did ... its same as i have for all directorys that i share |
| 17:30.46 | Gun_Smoke | napo: Then no. It should automount most things for you. As for installing stuff.. I only do that from the command line. |
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| 17:30.52 | dutchfish | heroxbd, yes it did |
| 17:31.08 | briantumor | anyway, what's the kernel source package called? |
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| 17:31.15 | luca | heroxbd it might be because that share its not part of the debian os itself ... like i said its a mounted ntfs hdd |
| 17:31.15 | napo | weird, my slave drive says not mounted |
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| 17:31.23 | briantumor | apt-get install kernel-source? |
| 17:31.32 | luca | dutchfish whats your point ? |
| 17:31.44 | heroxbd | dutchfish: the bot privately told luca? |
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| 17:32.17 | napo | do you guys use epiphany? |
| 17:32.29 | heroxbd | napo: I do |
| 17:32.32 | metaperl_ | everytime I come back to my debian/etch box, it prompts me for my password, I want to disable this |
| 17:32.35 | dutchfish | luca, you have to mount it properly before you can share it |
| 17:32.38 | dutchfish | heroxbd, yes |
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| 17:32.43 | metaperl_ | i do... but I'm a debian desktop neophyte :) |
| 17:32.48 | luca | heroxbd in vista i can see both the /home/luca and the /media/sda1 but i can only access the /home/luca directory ....they both have same config |
| 17:32.50 | briantumor | apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r) ...does that work? |
| 17:32.56 | metaperl_ | firefox is available for linux |
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| 17:33.01 | napo | i like debian, seems pretty cool |
| 17:33.05 | metaperl_ | i like gnome |
| 17:33.10 | dutchfish | luca, rw support through ntfs3g |
| 17:33.14 | metaperl_ | and linux is blinding fast compared to my windows machine upstairs |
| 17:33.26 | metaperl_ | too bad I am not a true linux guru so I need my xp crutch |
| 17:33.32 | heroxbd | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.44 | metaperl_ | i have an aiptex digital camcorder, not sure if I could get it to work on linux |
| 17:33.46 | pipeline | luca: The kernel NTFS support doesn't implement permissions. You have to mount with an apporpriate umask to give users permissions, otherwise only root can use it. |
| 17:33.48 | metaperl_ | dont even know where to start |
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| 17:33.56 | heroxbd | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.58 | pipeline | metaperl_: The only way to find out is to plug it in and see what happens. I've had good luck. |
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| 17:34.05 | luca | dutchfish ok i will have a look |
| 17:34.07 | metaperl_ | anyway, how do I get rid of that screen that locks the screen and requires password entry? |
| 17:34.25 | pipeline | metaperl_: uninstall xscreensaver, I suppose. |
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| 17:34.31 | ross` | my server can't connect to the internet and idk why everything checks out |
| 17:34.36 | pipeline | metaperl_: By "see what happens" I mean watch dmesg, btw |
| 17:34.42 | ross` | i checked interfacted it was all good then i restarted networking |
| 17:34.44 | luca | but the think is that i do have write permission with the user the way it is mounted now ... so i dont know what else i can do |
| 17:34.49 | ross` | i did ifconfig eth0 up |
| 17:34.53 | ross` | it should work |
| 17:34.55 | luca | heroxbd dutchfish ^ |
| 17:34.57 | grendal_prime | is there anyway to see how much memory x is using...i mean this is a shared memory video card..i told it to use 128 megs of memory on the board.. |
| 17:35.08 | grendal_prime | but like a dri command to see what its actually useing? |
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| 17:35.25 | metaperl_ | Package xscreensaver is not installed, so not removed |
| 17:35.38 | heroxbd | grendal_prime: try "$ top$ |
| 17:35.40 | pipeline | grendal_prime: No, you can't monitor that. You can, however, see how much it allocated to the video card, by reading the verbose output. (/var/log/Xorg.0.log ?) |
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| 17:35.49 | xingu | grendal_prime: there's xrestop; but that's not exactly what you're after either. |
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| 17:36.22 | luca | dutchfish any idea ? |
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| 17:37.03 | ross` | bah |
| 17:37.08 | heroxbd | luca: you can create file on your ntfs partition? |
| 17:37.13 | luca | yeah |
| 17:37.14 | luca | sure |
| 17:37.59 | luca | create , delete ... anything ..read/write permission works fine |
| 17:38.15 | luca | wonder why i cannot have write permission while i access it from vista ... |
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| 17:38.27 | grendal_prime | (**) I810(0): Will alloc AGP framebuffer: 128770 kByte |
| 17:38.34 | ross` | my server can't connect to the internet and idk why everything checks out |
| 17:38.37 | ross` | i checked interfacted it was all good then i restarted networking |
| 17:38.43 | grendal_prime | would that be the line in the x11org log im looking for? |
| 17:38.46 | ross` | i checked interfacted it was all good then i restarted networking |
| 17:38.51 | wald0 | is there any reason that jahshaka is not in debian ? |
| 17:38.55 | napo | k so i got a slave which is formatted in ntfs, any way to mount that since it's not auto mounting? |
| 17:38.56 | ross` | i did ifconfig eth0 up |
| 17:39.02 | Eulex | wald0, nobody packaged it? |
| 17:39.03 | ross` | it should work |
| 17:39.27 | wald0 | Eulex: i wonder why are not in official debian repositories |
| 17:39.33 | wald0 | maybe a license problem or something like that ? |
| 17:39.34 | heroxbd | luca: I can't see your home configuration in your paste. |
| 17:39.39 | Eulex | wald0, perhaps. |
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| 17:40.43 | luca | heroxbd http://pastebin.ca/890330 its same |
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| 17:40.46 | daidalus13 | hi. I did an aptitude update and then an upgade on Sun the 27/1 and apparently this was upgraded for mysql: " mysql-common 4.0.24-10sarge2 -> 5.0.32-7etch4" as well as the client " libmysqlclient12 4.0.24-10sarge2 -> 4.0.24-10sarge3". Mysqld does not start since then. I noticed that there is no mysqld program in my /usr/bin/ directory and mysql_safe cannot start anything. I also noticed that although I am running sarge the packag |
| 17:41.24 | enouf | msm: hi, i guess you were nicknamed "Milten" before - yes, older isolinux images worked a bit differently as far as emulating a floppy as valdyn kind of eluded to; but he said it's either/or (Boot from CDROM) which is incorrect - that said; i explained also what your workaround choices were and USB booting wasn't one, since you said your BIOS doesn't support that (also i mentioned likely it wouldn't). |
| 17:41.31 | enouf | msm: So, again i suggest a) SBM (w/memdisk) + CDROM boot b) netboot through your NIC (if you can, check BIOS), c) try debootstrap, or easier is http://goodbye-windows.com .. also, please try and use the same (hopefully registered) nickname |
| 17:41.32 | pipeline | daidalus13: Something's wrong with your sources.list, I think. |
| 17:42.13 | daidalus13 | pipeline: hmmm.. do you have any suggestions then? |
| 17:42.18 | pipeline | daidalus13: yes, your sources.list is fucked. It probably says "stable" instead of "sarge". |
| 17:42.31 | pipeline | daidalus13: My suggestion would be to port your application to MySQL 5, and upgrade the whole system to etch :) |
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| 17:42.58 | daidalus13 | pipeline: upgrading to etch is easy? |
| 17:43.00 | pipeline | daidalus13: MySQL 4.0 is so goddamned awful, I don't know how you would use it anyway. MySQL 4.1 at least adds some faux-ACID support to make it halfway usable, and if you're going to do that much work, might as well move to 5.0 |
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| 17:43.10 | metaperl_ | did someone say something to me? |
| 17:43.15 | pipeline | daidalus13: Upgrading to etch is easy, yes. Debian is always upgradable to at least one version. |
| 17:43.21 | pipeline | metaperl_: use /lastlog |
| 17:43.21 | metaperl_ | xchat is not so good at highliting responses |
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| 17:43.36 | wfq | hi |
| 17:43.36 | heroxbd | enouf: How about LiveCD? |
| 17:43.37 | pipeline | daidalus13: What might not be so easy is getting whatever application you have designed for 4.0 to run on 5.0 :) |
| 17:43.51 | metaperl_ | oh thanks pipeline |
| 17:43.54 | jelly-home | daidalus13: upgrading the system should not be hard. Making your apps work with newer versions of everything can be _very_ hard. |
| 17:44.03 | Blafasel | Hi there. Is this a place where I can ask an exim on debian question as well? The exim channel is dead for ~ 3 hours now |
| 17:44.05 | enouf | heroxbd: can/is debian-live now installable too? if so, sure |
| 17:44.49 | daidalus13 | pipeline: getting the application run on mysql 5 will be ok. upragding to etch should be done by just changing my sources.list. Is that right? |
| 17:45.12 | pipeline | daidalus13: well, that's what got you into this problem |
| 17:45.19 | pipeline | daidalus13: You apparently had "stable" instead of "sarge" in your sources.list |
| 17:45.25 | yzaLyzarC | How can I make irssi use less ram? I'm in a lot of channels 24/7 and the ram is running out. |
| 17:45.32 | pipeline | daidalus13: So you're going to upgrade to etch the next time you run an "apt-get dist-upgrade" wheter you like it or not. |
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| 17:45.45 | pipeline | yzaLyzarC: That shouldn't be happening. |
| 17:45.51 | daidalus13 | pipeline: I 'll check that.. |
| 17:45.56 | pipeline | yzaLyzarC: irssi uses very little RAM |
| 17:46.07 | yzaLyzarC | But the text from the channels uses a lot. |
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| 17:46.29 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: set the buffer lower? logging amount too |
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| 17:47.17 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: i have about 3 hours of scrollback in each of the 9 channels i'm in, and i have only 320MB ram installed on an old p2 |
| 17:47.24 | yzaLyzarC | enouf: Can I manually get rid of the text in a channel? |
| 17:47.39 | pipeline | yzaLyzarC: It shouldn't. |
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| 17:47.51 | yzaLyzarC | enouf: I have about 3days in about 10 channels |
| 17:47.52 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: and i'm not even using irssi ;-) i'm using some old kde-based GUI client ;-) |
| 17:47.54 | pipeline | yzaLyzarC: irssi's non-library uses should be like, 2M |
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| 17:48.38 | yzaLyzarC | but the box is using about 300M and 100M swap. |
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| 17:49.10 | yzaLyzarC | how do I confirm that it is irssi? |
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| 17:49.31 | dutchfish | yzaLyzarC, you could try sync && sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches |
| 17:49.42 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: why are saving 3 days of each channel in memory .. sure some channels i'm in are slow, but actually my client can be adjusted by how many lines (i think it's set to 1000 or so, maybe more) .. but sure, the slow channels can be 3 days to create even 500 lines .. so YMMV |
| 17:50.19 | daidalus13 | pipeline: my sources.list has the following three lines "deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free" - "deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free restricted" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib". Is it this third one that did the damage? |
| 17:50.30 | enouf | dutchfish: good one, i use that too now and again |
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| 17:50.54 | yzaLyzarC | If I get into an accident, I would like too know what happened while I was gone... |
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| 17:52.27 | napo | i can't access my slave ntfs drive, when i tried to mount it, terminal told me i was not in the sudoers file, how can i fix that? |
| 17:52.29 | screamingbytes | meh |
| 17:52.30 | heroxbd | daidalus13: I think so. |
| 17:52.54 | screamingbytes | napo: put yourself in the sudoers file |
| 17:53.00 | yzaLyzarC | napo: Use su - |
| 17:53.01 | screamingbytes | napo: use visudo |
| 17:53.04 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: a lot of good info about irssi can be found scrounging through this http://linuks.mine.nu/irc/irssi/irssi.log.html |
| 17:53.23 | napo | ok |
| 17:53.59 | enouf | napo: username ALL=NOPASSWD:ALL <--add that |
| 17:54.02 | napo | k now it says Debian:-# that mean i'm in? |
| 17:54.04 | daidalus13 | heroxbd: thx. So, if I change anything that says sarge to etch in my sources list and run aptitude upgrad-dist, I should be able to upgrade my system to etch. Right? |
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| 17:55.00 | heroxbd | daidalus13: exactly |
| 17:55.46 | yzaLyzarC | Where is the sudoers file? |
| 17:56.29 | heroxbd | yzaLyzarC: /etc/sudoers .. r u asking about this? |
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| 17:57.00 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: for example "lastlog -clear will clear all the lastlogs from the buffer" |
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| 17:57.06 | pipeline | daidalus13: Probably. |
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| 17:57.10 | yzaLyzarC | ok |
| 17:57.14 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: also "/lastlog -file outfile.log is also very useful if you don't have auto-loggin turned on" |
| 17:57.58 | daidalus13 | heroxbd+pipeline: man aptitude does not have anything like upgrade-dist as an option... or os this not an option? |
| 17:58.00 | yzaLyzarC | So I can make it log it to a file instead of to ram? |
| 17:58.14 | heroxbd | daidalus13: dist-upgrade |
| 17:58.25 | metaperl_ | I tried typing "/lastlog metaperl" but nothing came back |
| 17:58.27 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: my bad, all commands are preceded with a / .. so my 1st one above "/lastlog -clear .." was missing it |
| 17:58.37 | napo | enouf: do i enter the root username or ? |
| 17:58.37 | daidalus13 | heroxdb: you are right |
| 17:58.53 | enouf | napo: for sudo, you enter user passwd |
| 17:58.54 | metaperl_ | how can I get rid of being prompted for my password on my debian box... i want it to remain open when it goes idle |
| 17:59.14 | enouf | napo: for su, su-, you enter root's passwd |
| 17:59.19 | pipeline | metaperl_: uninstall xscreensaver |
| 17:59.24 | napo | k |
| 17:59.26 | metaperl_ | thatis not installed pipeline |
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| 17:59.32 | enouf | gah .. i mean 'su' , or 'su -' |
| 17:59.58 | metaperl_ | wajig uninstall xscreensaver - Package xscreensaver is not installed, so not removed |
| 18:00.04 | napo | i see |
| 18:00.06 | metaperl_ | remove |
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| 18:00.09 | metaperl_ | not uninstall |
| 18:00.13 | pipeline | metaperl_: apt-cache search xscreensaver |
| 18:00.22 | daidalus13 | has anybody upgraded distribution? I don;t want to sound sunny but I mean, it sounds too good to be true! Just an aptitude dist-upgrade with a new source.list and I get the next verion? |
| 18:00.38 | metaperl_ | yeah, it's there in apt-cache |
| 18:00.42 | yzaLyzarC | Are lenny ready? |
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| 18:01.13 | heroxbd | daidalus13: Yes, I have an old Sarge Cd. I installed it and upgraded to Etch and then Lenny, and the Sid |
| 18:01.18 | SixT6 | daidalus13: Yes, it's that easy, until you get a lot of errors because you're using the testing/unstable distro instead of stable |
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| 18:01.36 | heroxbd | daidalus13: Takes a lot of time though. |
| 18:01.50 | daidalus13 | SixT6: good comment. I 'll make sure I get only stable |
| 18:02.06 | SixT6 | Stable is etch |
| 18:02.10 | daidalus13 | heroxdb: what is a 'long time' ? |
| 18:02.21 | SixT6 | Took me 3-4 minutes |
| 18:02.24 | SixT6 | Including reboot |
| 18:02.27 | DragoraN | .j videolan |
| 18:02.31 | metaperl_ | pipeline: it was easy... Desktop -> Preferences -> Screensaver -> uncheck require password... that should work |
| 18:02.32 | yzaLyzarC | So lenny is unstable? |
| 18:02.34 | SixT6 | But I have a minimalist system |
| 18:02.42 | SixT6 | yzaLyzarC: No, lenny is testing |
| 18:02.46 | SixT6 | sid is unstable |
| 18:02.49 | heroxbd | daidalus13: because I installed many packages and dist-upgraded 3 times. |
| 18:02.54 | metaperl_ | sid is always unstable.... |
| 18:02.56 | enouf | !releases |
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| 18:03.08 | metaperl_ | lenny can be different things... the Debian FAQ explains that |
| 18:03.14 | SixT6 | !release |
| 18:03.16 | enouf | dpkg are you sleeping? |
| 18:03.20 | SixT6 | =& |
| 18:03.22 | enouf | ~releases |
| 18:03.33 | apt | releases are Look at http://www.debian.org/releases/ ! There is a website for a reason! |
| 18:03.33 | enouf | @releases |
| 18:03.33 | napo | Is hdb1 a slave or could that also be another partition? |
| 18:03.34 | enouf | heh |
| 18:03.34 | SixT6 | !dokg hello |
| 18:03.43 | SixT6 | !dpkg hello |
| 18:03.50 | heroxbd | :) |
| 18:03.59 | enouf | she's out, getting NOOKIE! |
| 18:03.59 | SixT6 | enouf: We're free from his terror, run while you can |
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| 18:04.40 | daidalus13 | heroxbd,pipeline: ok guys. I 'll try this and see what happens. Thz for the help. Will be back here later |
| 18:05.01 | enouf | the NSA hasn't quite stitched up their undersea spy cable splicings yet O_o |
| 18:05.04 | heroxbd | daidalus13: good luck |
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| 18:05.45 | enouf | napo: ? |
| 18:05.48 | napo | yo |
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| 18:06.06 | rocketmagnet | hi |
| 18:06.40 | enouf | napo: your HDDs are either named sdX or hdX (or scdX, or sgX, or many others) BUT, sdaN, hdaN are partitions |
| 18:06.43 | Nyle | hi |
| 18:06.46 | Nyle | sueprbowl sunday |
| 18:06.50 | napo | you talking bout the illegal spying they were doing? |
| 18:06.51 | damog | Nyle: sup, buddy. |
| 18:06.57 | pipeline | napo: Partitions are going to be numbered, unless they're a solaris/freebsd disklabel. |
| 18:06.58 | Nyle | damog: hey man! its superbowl1 |
| 18:07.00 | Nyle | ! |
| 18:07.06 | damog | Nyle: go giants! :b |
| 18:07.11 | rocketmagnet | i am setting up my old pc to be a debian firewall and want the x-server to be accessable by my windows station, how can i make gnome not start on the server with login etc ? so i only have x running in the background so i can connect from the windows machine ? |
| 18:07.14 | Nyle | damog: hell yeah :) |
| 18:07.18 | napo | ok |
| 18:07.18 | enouf | napo: hda is 1st IDE HDD, hdb is 2nd IDE HDD, and so on |
| 18:07.29 | Nyle | damog: you busy atm? |
| 18:07.29 | damog | Nyle: joining the debian nyc get-together later this month? |
| 18:07.31 | napo | gotcha |
| 18:07.35 | enouf | napo: so hda1 is 1st drive, 1st partition |
| 18:07.40 | Nyle | damog: yes sure I would love to |
| 18:07.43 | Nyle | damog: details please? |
| 18:07.54 | rocketmagnet | hi enouf |
| 18:08.01 | napo | yeah i have ubuntu and debian on 1st idea drive |
| 18:08.07 | enouf | napo: though note, sda could be 1st drive, that all depends on types of drives and BIOS mapping order set |
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| 18:08.25 | Nyle | damog: you got my number, if you don't see me on here, just call and leave me a message to text me |
| 18:08.27 | enouf | or any other, like scsi, etc |
| 18:08.28 | damog | Nyle: nothing has been decided right now, still under discussion (it seems the archives for the mailing list are down :() |
| 18:08.31 | heroxbd | rocketmagnet: You don't need to start X |
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| 18:08.38 | napo | min is seagate ata |
| 18:08.41 | Nyle | s/to/or |
| 18:09.01 | damog | Nyle: will do, it's gonna be on either the 7th or the 21st |
| 18:09.05 | rocketmagnet | heroxbd: i don't need it on the firewall, i just want the output on another client in the network, but not on the firewall |
| 18:09.05 | Nyle | damog: yeh i havne't had any emails from them |
| 18:09.09 | Nyle | damog: cool |
| 18:09.25 | rocketmagnet | heroxbd: so i have to gnome in my window |
| 18:09.28 | Nyle | damog: hows the old lady doin? day hey to her for me |
| 18:09.43 | heroxbd | rocketmagnet: Yes. You need to run the X server on your Windows mechine. |
| 18:09.52 | damog | Nyle: just fine, will do. we're about to leave to downtown for some shopping |
| 18:10.02 | enouf | napo: dmesg | less (hit 'q' to quit), cat /proc/partitions, sudo fdisk -l will help you sort stuff |
| 18:10.14 | Nyle | damog: hey have fun, go buy me something too :) haha |
| 18:10.25 | damog | :) |
| 18:10.37 | heroxbd | rocketmagnet: I am using Xming for that. |
| 18:11.04 | napo | enouf: cool, thanks |
| 18:11.15 | Nyle | Xming is great |
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| 18:11.35 | Nyle | Xming + plink == desktop icon you just double click to start pre defined apps open in single windows |
| 18:11.43 | Nyle | OR, you can launch a full session |
| 18:11.46 | Nyle | its beautiful |
| 18:11.59 | heroxbd | Nyle: I agree. |
| 18:12.25 | rocketmagnet | heroxbd: i don't realy understand this, i thought Xming is just a x-client |
| 18:12.40 | rocketmagnet | so i can have the output of my linux machine from x11 on my windows box |
| 18:12.50 | amphi | Nyle: icon? ugh ;) |
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| 18:13.02 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: Xming == GO GOOGLE IT |
| 18:13.04 | Nyle | :) |
| 18:13.16 | rocketmagnet | it's an x-window-server |
| 18:13.27 | Nyle | amphi: well, its convenient, you can setup .xlaunch files (xming files that have predefined settings stored) |
| 18:13.31 | heroxbd | Guys, Is there a bot command explaining X server and client? ;) |
| 18:13.37 | Nyle | I got one for konqueror, one for konsole et. etc. |
| 18:13.42 | moshii | wow, some of the stuff going through my tor endpoint is scary |
| 18:13.47 | amphi | Nyle: ah, this is an xserver for legacy OSes? |
| 18:13.49 | pipeline | moshii: Dude. No. |
| 18:13.53 | Nyle | amphi: just google it |
| 18:13.54 | Nyle | dude |
| 18:14.00 | amphi | Nyle: I will not |
| 18:14.04 | Nyle | dude |
| 18:14.09 | Nyle | im gonna hurt you |
| 18:14.13 | pipeline | moshii: Why would you make yourself a tor endpoint ? |
| 18:14.30 | moshii | pipeline: load testing |
| 18:14.32 | amphi | Nyle: at this stage, I doubt you can crawl across the floor ;) |
| 18:14.33 | rocketmagnet | now i know, but i don't understand the stuff behind it, why don't i need to have x running on my linux machine ?? how can Xming give me the output of linux if i don't connect to my linux machine ? |
| 18:14.40 | Nyle | amphi: no its a opensource/free Xserver for widows |
| 18:14.45 | Nyle | !xming |
| 18:14.47 | Nyle | hm |
| 18:14.52 | amphi | for widows, heh |
| 18:14.53 | moshii | pipeline: someone's looking at some really dodgy chinese porn hahaha |
| 18:14.59 | SixT6 | Nyle: dpkg isn't here anymore |
| 18:15.05 | Nyle | hm |
| 18:15.14 | Nyle | &xming |
| 18:15.19 | yzaLyzarC | How can I check how mych ram irssi is using= |
| 18:15.25 | Eulex | apt: xming |
| 18:15.30 | Nyle | yzaLyzarC: top/htop |
| 18:15.41 | heroxbd | pipeline: As a tor endpoint You can help people in China to get on some websites otherwise not available. |
| 18:15.42 | yzaLyzarC | htop |
| 18:16.01 | moshii | heroxbd: yup, tons of them hitting mine |
| 18:16.03 | rocketmagnet | i want to have and x-client for windows, so i can get the linux output (my gnome). so it runs as a background process on the server |
| 18:16.16 | rocketmagnet | and i use it like the vnc stuff |
| 18:16.18 | moshii | heroxbd: I was they'd access dodgy porn over ssl though |
| 18:16.22 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming |
| 18:16.25 | rocketmagnet | or does i have missunderstood something |
| 18:16.32 | Eulex | rocketmagnet, you don't get X output at the client, you get it at the server |
| 18:16.32 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: for help with xming on windows, try ##windows |
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| 18:16.52 | rocketmagnet | i have some basic understanding problem here |
| 18:16.55 | Nyle | ok |
| 18:17.02 | Nyle | then please do this |
| 18:17.05 | napo | enouf: could i mess up data on the slave if i mount it wrong? |
| 18:17.07 | heroxbd | rocketmagnet: You ssh into your Linux box, telling him "Hey, there is a X server out there, use that!", then the X app in your Linux box output to your X server on Windows |
| 18:17.10 | Nyle | ~sshx |
| 18:17.10 | apt | Enable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config), you can use ssh -X on the client side. Both server and client need the xauth program, which is in the xbase-clients package. ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or ... |
| 18:17.15 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: ^^ |
| 18:17.33 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: install Xming on windows, and use putty, very easy.. if you google for a tutorial or guide you'll find one |
| 18:17.39 | Nyle | or consult ##windows |
| 18:17.53 | rocketmagnet | heroxbd: ahhhhh |
| 18:17.56 | rocketmagnet | ty ^^ |
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| 18:18.25 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: well if you had just... tried to look for yourself you would have found that out |
| 18:18.28 | enouf | napo: it won't mount if you do it wrong ;-) |
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| 18:18.47 | pipeline | heroxbd: Somehow I doubt that's the primary use... and I'm not afraid of people using my bandwidth to find chinese market porno. There are much less pleasant things. |
| 18:18.52 | napo | enouf: aight hehe |
| 18:18.53 | heroxbd | moshii: poor people.... |
| 18:18.57 | rocketmagnet | i'm actualy reading "making debian secure for firewall usage" |
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| 18:19.05 | enouf | napo: talk in /dev/hdb terms, and mention filesystem types |
| 18:19.08 | rocketmagnet | and they have mentioned it, but not enouth so i understand |
| 18:19.42 | Nyle | ravenbird: hi |
| 18:19.42 | ravenbird | tan'si, nyle |
| 18:19.43 | yzaLyzarC | Nyle: Where should I write top/htop? |
| 18:19.49 | Nyle | aptitude is not here |
| 18:19.54 | Nyle | yzaLyzarC: console |
| 18:20.01 | Nyle | yzaLyzarC: apt-get install htop && htop |
| 18:20.04 | moshii | heroxbd: there's someone booking escorts too. crazy people |
| 18:20.05 | Nyle | read the manpage too |
| 18:20.14 | rocketmagnet | heroxbd: so my windows box acts as x-server for my firewall linux applications running x, and where can i setup the pannels and x11 settings ? with Xming ? |
| 18:20.18 | Nyle | badgers is not here |
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| 18:20.29 | Nyle | ravenbird: apt: |
| 18:20.30 | ravenbird | Nyle: are you using Windows? |
| 18:20.31 | enouf | apt is though Nyle |
| 18:20.37 | heroxbd | pipeline: True... |
| 18:20.42 | Nyle | hmm what other bots are here besides the two backup |
| 18:20.42 | damog | zomg, #ubuntu is the most crowded FN channel now |
| 18:20.49 | Nyle | has don been notified? |
| 18:20.51 | Nyle | or hilighted? |
| 18:20.55 | heroxbd | rocketmagnet: Yes. |
| 18:21.09 | Nyle | dondelelcaro: don_inlab: dpkg is down |
| 18:21.11 | enouf | don't know |
| 18:21.25 | jelly-home | dead dpkg, duh |
| 18:21.25 | heroxbd | damog: there is also hundreds of debian people on OFTW |
| 18:21.38 | enouf | oftc.net ? |
| 18:21.41 | Nyle | damog: of course it is |
| 18:21.48 | jelly-home | !test |
| 18:21.48 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 18:21.59 | Nyle | hey its back |
| 18:22.02 | Nyle | !hi |
| 18:22.02 | dpkg | hello, nyle |
| 18:22.03 | enouf | dpkg: where were you? |
| 18:22.03 | dpkg | I was getting some action with the botchicks! WooYEAH! I got me some NOOKIE! |
| 18:22.10 | Nyle | ? |
| 18:22.15 | damog | hah |
| 18:22.22 | Nyle | ok, at tiems dpkg will spank someone on HER thigh |
| 18:22.23 | yzaLyzarC | Nyle: something named blootbot wrote a lot of coloured text on my screen! |
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| 18:22.31 | fabio | hi guys |
| 18:22.38 | Nyle | and sometimes she gets action with chics |
| 18:22.38 | damog | hi fabio |
| 18:22.41 | heroxbd | moshii:maybe like me in the past.... |
| 18:22.44 | Nyle | so... logically concluding |
| 18:22.46 | Nyle | dpkg is a lesbian |
| 18:22.47 | Nyle | ? |
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| 18:22.58 | fabio | i have a problem removing the core files of openoffice...this is my problem: |
| 18:22.59 | enouf | dpkg: sex |
| 18:22.59 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install diaphram; mount; fsck; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge diaphram; make clean; sleep |
| 18:22.59 | fabio | dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of openoffice.org-core03u: |
| 18:23.00 | fabio | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.00 | Jon_ | Best linux media player?(Music) |
| 18:23.03 | enouf | er |
| 18:23.07 | enouf | !gender |
| 18:23.08 | dpkg | I'm not sure |
| 18:23.10 | Nyle | lol |
| 18:23.14 | SixT6 | I still haven't got the X11 forwarding to work =/ |
| 18:23.15 | enouf | hah |
| 18:23.17 | Hoxzer | Jon_: xmms2 |
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| 18:23.18 | jelly-home | !best |
| 18:23.18 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 18:23.20 | fabio | i have core01 core02...core09....but now i can't remove it. |
| 18:23.25 | fabio | anyone can help me? |
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| 18:23.41 | Nyle | Jon_: mplayer, vlc, smplayer (mplayer gui) |
| 18:23.42 | yzaLyzarC | Nyle: I came to the conclusin the coloured text was what you wanted me to install... |
| 18:23.51 | Nyle | yzaLyzarC: I don't recall |
| 18:23.51 | damog | omfg, dpkg is so SEXIST, she should be shot and never allowed on the debian world anymore |
| 18:24.09 | pipeline | ?? |
| 18:24.12 | Nyle | heh |
| 18:24.19 | jelly-home | Nyle: for _music_ ... mplayer & vlc? |
| 18:24.19 | pipeline | dpkg is a blootbot. Everything it says was submitted by users. |
| 18:24.26 | fabio | no one can help me? |
| 18:24.31 | Nyle | jelly-home: oh |
| 18:24.31 | damog | pipeline: you are not getting it :p |
| 18:24.35 | enouf | missing g in diaphragm :-p |
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| 18:25.26 | Nyle | jelly-home: amarok, exaile, quod libet, xmms, songbird |
| 18:25.26 | Nyle | ? |
| 18:25.26 | rocketmagnet | nice !!! wikipedia has also documented the hole x-window-system stuff =) |
| 18:25.26 | yzaLyzarC | I have about 50 proceses using 0.5M ram that is aoache2 www-data or something. What is it? |
| 18:25.26 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: there ya go |
| 18:25.27 | heroxbd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:25.27 | rocketmagnet | also xlib and stuff is explained |
| 18:25.27 | yzaLyzarC | 29260 www-data 35 10 225M 2452 1156 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start |
| 18:25.27 | enouf | nice hole rocketmagnet |
| 18:25.27 | yzaLyzarC | like that |
| 18:25.28 | jelly-home | Nyle: not me, him Jon_ over there |
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| 18:25.44 | rocketmagnet | enouf: what do you mean ? |
| 18:25.44 | Nyle | jelly-home: I know |
| 18:25.47 | rocketmagnet | security hole =) ? |
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| 18:25.56 | fabio | heroxbd: they are a package for openoffice |
| 18:26.09 | heroxbd | rocketmagnet: mem hole I guess.. |
| 18:26.09 | Nyle | yzaLyzarC: apache web server |
| 18:26.20 | enouf | rocketmagnet: nothing much, just 'hole' should've been 'whole' when you said it :-) |
| 18:26.21 | jelly-home | fabio: please pastebin apt-cache policy openoffice.org-core03 ... these don't look like packages from Debian |
| 18:26.24 | Nyle | yzaLyzarC: you can probably use ps to see |
| 18:26.25 | yzaLyzarC | Nyle: What is it doing? |
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| 18:26.37 | Nyle | yzaLyzarC: there must be some ps switch that lets you also see memoryuse |
| 18:26.44 | Nyle | I'm not fully awake, read the man page for ps |
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| 18:27.01 | Nyle | you could probably use the switch to see used memory by pid and grep for irssi |
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| 18:27.24 | yzaLyzarC | So what was the name of text based browser? |
| 18:27.27 | enouf | htop , look at the F buttons ;-) |
| 18:27.31 | heroxbd | yzaLyzarC: have you tried "top"? |
| 18:27.41 | Nyle | he has been told of all those things |
| 18:27.43 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: there's a few, links2 is both |
| 18:27.44 | jelly-home | yzaLyzarC: links2, elinks, w3m, lynx |
| 18:27.48 | Nyle | he is still confused and my patience is running thin |
| 18:27.53 | Nyle | ya'll handle it |
| 18:28.01 | jelly-home | !tell Nyle -about enter |
| 18:28.05 | jelly-home | :-P |
| 18:28.11 | Nyle | why you.... |
| 18:28.13 | Nyle | hehe :) |
| 18:28.43 | fabio | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/d30a440dc |
| 18:29.07 | heroxbd | !tell heroxbd -about enter |
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| 18:29.21 | jelly-home | fabio: where did you download and installed that packages from? It doesn't exist in Debian. |
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| 18:29.48 | fabio | from openoffice.org |
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| 18:30.40 | fabio | jelly-home: i solved with dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/openoffice/{ print $2 }') |
| 18:30.54 | rocketmagnet | heroxbd: so Xming plays the server for my remote linux applications using X11, but i've seen by a friend that he also has desktop icons and stuff like this, i can't find this in Xming |
| 18:30.56 | jelly-home | fabio: heh. |
| 18:31.23 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: read xming docs |
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| 18:31.29 | Nyle | its RIGHT THERE, fully explained |
| 18:31.31 | yzaLyzarC | Where is apache installed? |
| 18:31.36 | rocketmagnet | Nyle: k |
| 18:31.43 | heroxbd | rocketmagnet: Xming is only an X11 server alternative. There is surely other applications with the same funcion. |
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| 18:31.47 | Nyle | yzaLyzarC: dpkg -L apache2 |
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| 18:31.51 | yzaLyzarC | Where is document root? |
| 18:31.52 | Nyle | I dunno whatever the package name is |
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| 18:32.05 | Nyle | i think /var/www |
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| 18:32.18 | Nyle | I have no idea |
| 18:32.30 | Nyle | I dunno nothin bout nothin |
| 18:33.53 | Spee_Der | /usr/share/doc I think |
| 18:34.19 | Nyle | no |
| 18:34.23 | Spee_Der | o |
| 18:34.23 | Nyle | absolutely no |
| 18:34.26 | Nyle | that I know for sure :) |
| 18:34.39 | heroxbd | Ahh. How can I make use of the old disks? some blocks are slow and some are not responding. I used mhdd to check and it worked for 6 months and failed again. |
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| 18:34.46 | Spee_Der | i cam in late on that one, sri. |
| 18:34.47 | rocketmagnet | heroxbd: i'm just a bit confused that i have to run the x-server on my machine, i allways though i need only an x-client for win32 |
| 18:34.54 | Nyle | np |
| 18:35.17 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: clients are your x applications on your linux machine |
| 18:35.26 | heroxbd | rocketmagnet: You did not understand the meaning of X server and X client. |
| 18:35.30 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: usually an xserver runs on localhost so you can see your local clients |
| 18:35.37 | jelly-home | yzaLyzarC: grep -ri documentroot /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ? |
| 18:35.39 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: X server can run anywehre, even on the internet somehwere |
| 18:36.19 | Nyle | rocketmagnet: X clients (apps) connect to the Xserver (on linux or windows or anywhere for that matter (when you tell it) |
| 18:36.25 | rocketmagnet | ok, but then what's gnome |
| 18:36.33 | Nyle | its a desktop environment |
| 18:36.43 | jelly-home | rocketmagnet: if you want your display to be able to show X applications, you need an X server. |
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| 18:36.48 | wfq | Hi |
| 18:36.50 | rocketmagnet | and when i want to be able to get this output to my windows box ? |
| 18:36.53 | Nyle | its includes a desktop manager, a window manager, panels, menus, buttons, etc. etc. |
| 18:36.59 | heroxbd | rocketmagnet: you can also have a look at here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System |
| 18:37.02 | Decepticon | how do i get the latest version of a program i already have an older version of via the command line, and only that program only? |
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| 18:37.03 | DragoraN | hi |
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| 18:37.05 | rocketmagnet | : jelly-home: ty |
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| 18:37.16 | Eulex | !tell Decepticon about simple sid backport |
| 18:37.21 | DragoraN | is there a way how to create gre tunnel on windows? (like iptunnel in linux) |
| 18:37.38 | wfq | What's wrong with this WEP configuration please? |
| 18:37.39 | wfq | http://pastebin.com/m384323a9 |
| 18:37.41 | Decepticon | do i just do apt-get install <package> and expect it to udpate to latest one? |
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| 18:37.55 | Nyle | Decepticon: yes |
| 18:38.03 | Nyle | Decepticon: but in stable you only get security updates, if any |
| 18:38.11 | rocketmagnet | something like this: http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/ |
| 18:38.34 | wfq | without WEP the wireless network card is working fine |
| 18:38.36 | heroxbd | I have found some package that can make use of old and bad mem. Is there a similar package that can handle bad HDDs -- Our budget is limited.... |
| 18:38.48 | DragoraN | please anyone |
| 18:39.07 | Nyle | DragoraN: ask in ##windows |
| 18:39.23 | Nyle | DragoraN: why would you even join a linux channel to ask a windows question |
| 18:39.28 | Nyle | think for fucks sake. |
| 18:39.36 | FrozenDawn | a generic linux doubt: if I do a "cat <dev>" where <dev> is the device of a working mouse, moving the mouse should cause output to the screen, right ? |
| 18:39.45 | rocketmagnet | again thanks for you help mates |
| 18:39.49 | rocketmagnet | !! |
| 18:39.49 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 18:40.00 | Nyle | !!! |
| 18:40.00 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 18:40.05 | Nyle | bah |
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| 18:40.09 | danand | FrozenDawn - should do |
| 18:40.09 | rocketmagnet | hehe |
| 18:40.18 | rocketmagnet | see you later |
| 18:40.25 | rocketmagnet | i've to read the security docs |
| 18:40.39 | heroxbd | :) There is kernel-patch-badram that serve the similar thing. Is there something for HDD? |
| 18:40.44 | amphi | !!!! |
| 18:40.44 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
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| 18:42.06 | ix | "I agree!!!" :p |
| 18:42.07 | FrozenDawn | danand: thanks |
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| 18:42.56 | enouf | heroxbd: badblocks? |
| 18:43.24 | Nyle | badram? |
| 18:43.28 | enouf | heroxbd: you really don't want to use bad HDDs nor bad ram , imo |
| 18:43.49 | Nyle | when stuff goes bad |
| 18:43.57 | amphi | the badram patch was a nice idea |
| 18:44.00 | Nyle | you can't just say ok, I'm going to not use the physically bad memory locations |
| 18:44.03 | enouf | use it for skeet shooting |
| 18:44.08 | Nyle | stick will go bad sooner or later |
| 18:44.14 | heroxbd | enouf: Yes, I agree. But can I use it for cache |
| 18:45.19 | wols | heroxbd: there are smaretmontools |
| 18:45.27 | enouf | amphi: who would've guessed many popular apps use a 512MB stick each :-P |
| 18:45.38 | FrozenDawn | danand: and if it does not, what could be wrong ? |
| 18:45.41 | Nyle | only for smart capable drives |
| 18:46.03 | enouf | amphi: besides 640K ought to be enough for anyone! O.o |
| 18:46.03 | amphi | enouf: indeed - makes you wonder about the populus ;) |
| 18:46.04 | heroxbd | enouf: I am running a apt-cacher-ng on campus and the cache is running low. I find myself with 3 bad HDDs at hand. |
| 18:46.14 | Nyle | enouf: haha |
| 18:46.20 | Nyle | enouf: in fact, that hasn't changed |
| 18:46.23 | enouf | amphi: i don't wonder anymore ;-) |
| 18:46.30 | Nyle | we still primarily address the base 640k |
| 18:46.35 | Nyle | everything else is fucking extended |
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| 18:46.40 | Nyle | retarded 386 arch |
| 18:46.42 | danand | FrozenDawn - was just thinking - how do you tell which of the listings in /dev/ is your mouse?? :) |
| 18:46.57 | wols | Nyle: you can't find any drive not smart capable |
| 18:46.57 | Nyle | from back in the day |
| 18:46.57 | heroxbd | wols: ThX, I'll check that. |
| 18:47.06 | Nyle | wols: you wan some, I got a ton |
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| 18:47.23 | danand | FrozenDawn - I take it your mouse is not working at the mo? |
| 18:47.58 | FrozenDawn | danand: to tell you the truth, I tryed all the options dpkg-reconfigure for devices, so as to try to find out which my mouse was |
| 18:48.18 | FrozenDawn | danand: dpkg-rec xorg =P |
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| 18:48.42 | FrozenDawn | danand: (mo ?) it is not working at all |
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| 18:49.10 | danand | FrozenDawn - mo = moment |
| 18:49.25 | wols | Nyle: what sizes? |
| 18:49.28 | danand | FrozenDawn - is it ps/2 or usb mouse |
| 18:49.32 | wols | cause I have 4GB ones here that have smart |
| 18:49.39 | wols | shitty smart but smart |
| 18:49.49 | FrozenDawn | nope, it is not (not the hardware though, for it works on windows) |
| 18:49.53 | FrozenDawn | ps/2 |
| 18:50.06 | enouf | i know my 1.2GB WD doesn't O.o |
| 18:50.23 | jeffwheeler | I'm not sure where to ask this, but it seems that the "Master" volume (according to the GNOME Volume Controller) does not affect the "Headphone" audio, which is what is sent to the speakers... is there something I should be doing so that my speaker volume is controlled by the keys on my keyboard? |
| 18:50.28 | enouf | (in my babyAT) |
| 18:50.33 | Nyle | i know my 80mb hdds don't have shit |
| 18:50.38 | jeffwheeler | (Which, of course, change the "master" volume rather than the "headphones" volume.) |
| 18:50.38 | Nyle | my 40mb hdds don't have shit |
| 18:50.40 | Nyle | lets see |
| 18:50.42 | Nyle | what else |
| 18:50.52 | Nyle | I could go on but i'd have to go look in the closet |
| 18:51.19 | FrozenDawn | danand: ps/2 |
| 18:51.27 | jeffwheeler | Perhaps PulseAudio makes this more natural than the standard GNOME daemon (I think it's esd by default)? |
| 18:51.51 | danand | FrozenDawn - was gonna suggest modprobe usbhid if it was a usb mouse - now i don't know what could be wrong :( |
| 18:52.04 | enouf | as root lsof | egrep 'esd|artsd' for starters |
| 18:52.10 | heroxbd | enouf: .... OK I'll throw them into dustbin and apply for shiny new ones |
| 18:52.21 | enouf | heroxbd: attaboy |
| 18:52.44 | danand | FrozenDawn - have you tried cat /dev/psaux ?? |
| 18:52.53 | FrozenDawn | danand: yep |
| 18:53.03 | danand | FrozenDawn - nothing?? |
| 18:53.19 | enouf | should be /dev/input/mice ? |
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| 18:53.47 | FrozenDawn | danand: nothing |
| 18:53.49 | Nyle | Approximately 30% of failures can be predicted by S.M.A.R.T.[2] Work at Google on over 100,000 drives has shown little overall predictive value of S.M.A.R.T. status as a whole |
| 18:54.01 | Nyle | ... |
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| 18:54.17 | enouf | FrozenDawn: what cat /proc/bus/input/devices say ? mouse and keys showm? |
| 18:54.34 | enouf | FrozenDawn: tried /dev/input/mice ? |
| 18:54.36 | Nyle | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Monitoring,_Analysis,_and_Reporting_Technology#History_and_predecessors |
| 18:54.54 | enouf | FrozenDawn: lsmod | grep mouse. is psmouse and mosuedev loaded? |
| 18:55.00 | danand | enouf, FrozenDawn - both cat /dev/psaux and cat /dev/input/mice works on my system and I have a ps/2 mouse |
| 18:55.27 | Tramp | Nyle: the important point is, that Smart Failure implies drive failure, but the opposite is not true (i.e. drives may fail without smart complaining in advance) |
| 18:55.40 | danand | FrozenDawn - silly question but do you try and move the mouse when running cat /dev/psaux |
| 18:55.53 | enouf | danand: same here, ps/2 also |
| 18:56.00 | FrozenDawn | danand: yep |
| 18:56.03 | enouf | need to be root too |
| 18:56.21 | Nyle | wow |
| 18:56.28 | Nyle | I still have 40 and 80mb hdds |
| 18:56.50 | Nyle | quite a few of them too |
| 18:56.59 | enouf | heh, weaponology |
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| 18:57.22 | heroxbd | Nyle: My first HDD is 10G |
| 18:57.37 | Nyle | I remember being SOOOO happy when I got my first 512 MB hdd |
| 18:57.41 | Nyle | that was awesome |
| 18:58.04 | enouf | wow, these Mars Rover photos are cool |
| 18:58.08 | Nyle | oh and a joystick |
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| 18:58.35 | heroxbd | Nyle: I was soooo happy when I found in my primary school that on of 60+ 386 box have a hard disk! |
| 18:58.36 | enouf | got the project engineer talking all about it on c-span3 |
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| 18:58.49 | enouf | w/photos, explaining everything |
| 18:58.50 | Nyle | heroxbd: haha |
| 18:59.02 | Nyle | don't care about mars |
| 18:59.13 | Nyle | wanna find more habitable planets |
| 18:59.23 | Nyle | like earth, with water and some vegetation |
| 18:59.24 | heroxbd | heroxbd: Then I did backup all my 30+ floppies there ;P |
| 18:59.28 | danand | FrozenDawn - did you try enouf's suggestion ala lsmod | grep mouse? |
| 18:59.29 | enouf | Nyle: make them |
| 18:59.38 | Nyle | enouf: make planets? |
| 18:59.43 | enouf | Nyle: you motto == Fly Me |
| 18:59.46 | Nyle | enouf: can I please have some of what you're smoking. |
| 18:59.51 | mhall | A question for all of the US users out there. I am trying to file my fucking tax return but those idiots over at TurboTax have succeeded in making their Web UI completely nonfunctional on my Debian box even after I spoof the user agent to Firefox 2.x.x.x on Windows. Any advice on a working tax site? I am tired of giving my money to assholes who can't make things work on many browsers because the interface is too fucking cute. |
| 18:59.52 | enouf | sure |
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| 18:59.56 | Nyle | heh |
| 19:00.03 | enouf | Nyle: find more habitable ones? lol |
| 19:00.30 | enouf | oh, non-solar system ones? |
| 19:00.31 | Nyle | mhall: ummm I give my sister 20$ to do it for me |
| 19:00.40 | mhall | Nyle: accountant? |
| 19:00.42 | Nyle | mhall: she knows how, and she gets it done in less than half hour |
| 19:00.45 | Nyle | nope |
| 19:00.49 | Nyle | detective for state |
| 19:00.53 | mhall | Nyle: lol... is she hot? |
| 19:00.55 | enouf | omg .. now .. step back from the keys and put dow the bong |
| 19:00.57 | mhall | Nyle: and single? |
| 19:00.58 | Nyle | dude. |
| 19:00.59 | mhall | Nyle: bwahaha |
| 19:01.11 | mhall | Nyle: hey man... i just couldn't not ask :-P |
| 19:01.23 | Nyle | matt, imma smack you |
| 19:01.25 | Nyle | shaddup |
| 19:01.26 | Nyle | :) |
| 19:01.29 | mhall | Nyle: lol |
| 19:01.36 | Nyle | anyway wher eyou been for a long while man |
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| 19:01.46 | Nyle | I hardly ever seee you around except every once in a whil |
| 19:01.53 | mhall | Nyle: well hating my new manager at my job |
| 19:01.59 | mhall | Nyle: he's made my life a living hell |
| 19:02.13 | mhall | Nyle: so i'm looking to move to a small company so i don't have to deal with assholes like him |
| 19:02.23 | mhall | i need to be in a place which is more output driven |
| 19:02.33 | Nyle | you should be comfortable |
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| 19:02.43 | hoxu | ... |
| 19:02.45 | hellues | hey |
| 19:02.52 | hellues | i have probllem in my soundcard |
| 19:02.55 | Nyle | hi hellues |
| 19:03.01 | Nyle | hellues: ask |
| 19:03.06 | mhall | hellues: what'd you say? i couldn't hear you... :-P |
| 19:03.21 | hoxu | !tell hellues about alsa checklist |
| 19:03.39 | FrozenDawn | danand: psmouse is loaded |
| 19:03.57 | FrozenDawn | danand: (sorry for the delay. Had to boot the machine that has the problem) |
| 19:03.58 | hellues | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.06 | hellues | my sound card |
| 19:04.19 | hellues | no sound how can i fix |
| 19:04.19 | enouf | FrozenDawn: how about mousedev ? |
| 19:04.46 | enouf | FrozenDawn: what's cat /proc/bus/input/devices say ? mouse and keys showm? |
| 19:04.54 | danand | FrozenDawn - no prob - thats all i get on my system too ie no mousedev |
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| 19:05.09 | Nyle | its a module |
| 19:05.12 | Nyle | modprobe it |
| 19:05.32 | enouf | mine needs it |
| 19:05.46 | Nyle | !mouse |
| 19:05.46 | dpkg | well, mouse is if you're having trouble with mice in XFree 4.0.2, go read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.mouse.gz, or a small furry rodent found in many parts of this world. http://www.jahns-arpke.de/Privat/Bautagebuch_/Bautagebuch_mit_Fotos/15_05_2004/Maus.JPG, or http://www.experiencescompany.com/SentImages/Bless%20This%20Mouse.jpg |
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| 19:06.04 | Nyle | old factoid |
| 19:06.09 | hellues | no suported pnp or pci |
| 19:06.10 | FrozenDawn | enouf: no mousedev |
| 19:06.12 | hellues | what does that mean |
| 19:06.18 | hellues | i make alsaconf |
| 19:06.21 | enouf | (or is using it, or whatever) |
| 19:08.09 | enouf | FrozenDawn: what's cat /proc/bus/input/devices | grep Name say ? <-- 3rd and last time, 3 strikes you're out! |
| 19:08.29 | FrozenDawn | enouf : http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~lucasmmg/dump |
| 19:08.49 | FrozenDawn | there is the result of cat /proc ... |
| 19:09.12 | enouf | oh brother |
| 19:09.20 | FrozenDawn | enouf: sorry about the delays =P |
| 19:09.29 | hellues | i build latedst alsa driver |
| 19:09.29 | enouf | esta ok |
| 19:09.33 | hellues | alsa 1.0.16 |
| 19:09.37 | mhall | man, the people in ##linux are a bunch of gnarly douche nozzles |
| 19:09.39 | hellues | then i made alsaconf |
| 19:09.40 | enouf | Macintosh emulation? |
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| 19:10.09 | enouf | mhall: sure can be, especially on weekends, alot of kids too |
| 19:10.21 | hellues | than i added me to audio |
| 19:10.26 | mhall | enouf: dude... totally |
| 19:10.33 | enouf | ahh.. and the channel douchebag :-) |
| 19:10.38 | mhall | enouf: they don't even totally read what you type |
| 19:10.45 | danand | FrozenDawn - I have that on my system too (mac emulation) but also a listing for my mouse |
| 19:11.00 | enouf | i know |
| 19:11.28 | enouf | mhall: using Konq? or Firefox as yuor browser? |
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| 19:11.53 | FrozenDawn | danand: ok ... That is odd ... i'll try to modprobe mousedev |
| 19:12.11 | stoned | I told you to do that like 5minutes ago |
| 19:12.22 | mhall | enouf: firefox, with forged firefox XP user agent |
| 19:12.22 | enouf | FrozenDawn: yes, modprobe mousedev |
| 19:12.29 | stoned | 14:03 < Nyle> its a module |
| 19:12.31 | stoned | 14:03 < Nyle> modprobe it |
| 19:12.34 | mhall | enouf: it seems like the first part was broken but the rest is now working |
| 19:12.38 | FrozenDawn | enouf: module not found =P |
| 19:12.39 | mhall | enouf: i'll see how far i can get |
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| 19:13.22 | enouf | mhall: whenever i absolutely need to deal with that crap javashit stuff, i fire up konq (it has whitelists/blacklists etc for Java and Javascripts, also cookies naturally) |
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| 19:13.26 | chance2105 | I've just downloaded a Lenny install CD. How do I verify it's a "good" CD, and hasn't been tampered with (is there a signed md5sum somewhere)? |
| 19:13.29 | enouf | mhall: oh, ok |
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| 19:13.33 | danand | enouf, FrozenDawn - i only have psmouse when i lsmod | grep mouse ... but modprobe mousedev worth a try |
| 19:14.03 | enouf | danand: i noticed you had said that |
| 19:14.12 | enouf | FrozenDawn: is that a powerpc? |
| 19:14.29 | FrozenDawn | enouf: nope |
| 19:14.36 | FrozenDawn | enouf: its intel |
| 19:15.06 | enouf | macintel macbook? |
| 19:15.24 | enouf | seen http://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro?highlight=%28macbook%29 ? |
| 19:15.38 | enouf | is that even applicable? |
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| 19:16.34 | enouf | touchpad? Desktop? wtf? |
| 19:16.35 | danand | enouf - my pc is intel/i686 - not sure what that "macintosh" stuff is all about! |
| 19:17.13 | enouf | i know they went from PPC Cpus (IBM made) to Intel and that's about all i know |
| 19:18.14 | enouf | chance2105: sure .. same diryou got the image from |
| 19:18.47 | enouf | chance2105: and you should d/l the Etch CD and use it's installer |
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| 19:19.23 | Pelo | good afternoon folks , can anyone teach me how to "Setup a spooldirectory without printfilter. Serialport baudrate must be 9600." |
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| 19:19.24 | FrozenDawn | enouf: could you run a "modinfo mousedev" for us ? |
| 19:19.52 | FrozenDawn | (in the machine that has the mouse working, I dont have that module either ...) |
| 19:19.55 | ServerSide | why iceweasel don't allow me to download more than 2 files at the same time? .. that's annoying |
| 19:19.56 | enouf | mhall: ya know, though i haven't been, there's #linuxhelp , also ##linux-coders channels |
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| 19:20.27 | enouf | mhall: i have been to the latter one, it's small, many times off topic, sometimes useful |
| 19:21.24 | simonrvn | ohnoz it's the end of the world!!111oneone!! can't download more than 2 files at once |
| 19:21.28 | jelly-home | Pelo: sounds like homework |
| 19:21.34 | enouf | FrozenDawn: i'm using a .16 kernel |
| 19:21.35 | danand | FrozenDawn - i don't have mousedev module either! |
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| 19:21.50 | enouf | psmouse 34248 0 mousedev 10368 1 |
| 19:22.14 | Pelo | jelly-home, the instructions I have to do this are too slim to give me much headstart or even much of a direction, so I'm trying to get atleast someone to shove me in the correct direction |
| 19:22.16 | chance2105 | enouf: Is the Lenny installer scary or something? |
| 19:22.22 | danand | FrozenDawn - are you 100% certain is ps/2 mouse - not serial |
| 19:22.28 | jelly-home | Pelo: assuming you're talking LPR, the best thing to do is install lprng, then dig into the printcap documentation |
| 19:22.28 | simonrvn | jelly-home: it does sound like homework |
| 19:22.56 | enouf | FrozenDawn: http://pastebin.ca/raw/890444 and http://pastebin.ca/raw/890447 |
| 19:23.11 | mhall | enouf: They need to make one where you have to pass a multiple choice POSIX application development test to get access. |
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| 19:23.18 | enouf | chance2105: it's meant for testing only to fix broken things |
| 19:23.20 | jelly-home | Pelo: or you could tell the powers that be that everyone uses cupsys these days, and devise a solution using that |
| 19:23.23 | Pelo | jelly-home, someone in another channel just summarize my problem to "trying to spool to a serial port" which is exactly what I am trhying to acheive |
| 19:23.30 | enouf | mhall: haha |
| 19:23.35 | mhall | enouf: To make sure that if you are a douche nozzle, you at least have some knowledge to justify it. |
| 19:23.41 | jelly-home | Pelo: "spool" what? |
| 19:23.54 | Pelo | jelly-home, the instructions I have are from the openprinting database, it's for a old pen plotter |
| 19:24.01 | Pelo | http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=CalComp-Artisan_1023_penplotter |
| 19:25.07 | chance2105 | enouf:The Lenny install image has no signed md5sums, but I see them in the stable directories. Bleh. |
| 19:25.32 | FrozenDawn | danand: oh my god ! Sorry for the HUGE waste of time ... -- it is serial |
| 19:25.44 | FrozenDawn | danand: (damn ...) |
| 19:25.48 | enouf | lmao |
| 19:25.54 | enouf | !spank FrozenDawn |
| 19:26.05 | simonrvn | !eat enouf |
| 19:26.18 | enouf | yeow .. ;-) |
| 19:26.21 | jelly-home | Pelo: so you have a printer connected on serial. You need to set up a raw spool (raw = no filter) for it. install lprng. read the docs. google for LPRNG and/or LPR docs. |
| 19:26.25 | danand | FrozenDawn - lol :D - I'm always doing things like that |
| 19:26.41 | Pelo | jelly-home, thanks |
| 19:26.46 | danand | FrozenDawn - try modprobe sermouse |
| 19:26.50 | simonrvn | mhall: hello there |
| 19:26.51 | enouf | danand: you do? remind me to stay far away :-P |
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| 19:27.21 | danand | enouf - :) - poor brain |
| 19:27.32 | enouf | heh |
| 19:27.53 | FrozenDawn | danand: ok |
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| 19:30.02 | FrozenDawn | danand: the module got loaded, but still neither input/mice nor ttyS0 gives output |
| 19:30.10 | danand | FrozenDawn - then try cat /proc/bus/input/devices - or less |
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| 19:30.47 | cizzi | i'm following this howto to enable users web pages in their home dir.. but its wrong.. is it different for debian? i'm using apache2 http://www.opensourcehowto.org/how-to/apache/setup-apache2-with-access-to-home-directories.html |
| 19:30.55 | enouf | FrozenDawn: for serial, i think you want /dev/psaux , also in Xorg.conf |
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| 19:31.58 | enouf | i cannot believe a macintel would use serial at all though |
| 19:32.05 | dr_strangelove | how can I set the umask for scp? I tried to put "umask 002" in .profile and .bashrc but the files are still created without group-write rights |
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| 19:32.16 | FrozenDawn | danand: psaux also gives no output |
| 19:32.26 | danand | enouf, FrozenDawn - agree - just how old is that machine?? |
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| 19:32.33 | enouf | they're too new .. i mean many mobos don't even have serial ports anymore |
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| 19:33.13 | enouf | danand: i still don't know if it's a laptop or desktop :-P |
| 19:33.14 | wols | emil|k: they pretty much all do still. just they connectors are not on the atx slots anymore |
| 19:33.28 | FrozenDawn | danand: damn old |
| 19:33.33 | enouf | danand: too much latency from mr freeze O.o |
| 19:33.40 | FrozenDawn | danand: but I am sure the mouse works =P |
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| 19:33.47 | enouf | that's not Intel,! WTF? |
| 19:34.12 | enouf | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 19:34.33 | danand | FrozenDawn - wow |
| 19:35.12 | danand | FrozenDawn, enouf - No wonder we have latency issues !! :) |
| 19:35.13 | enouf | [14:10:53] <FrozenDawn> enouf: its intel <-- really? mwahahahaha .. Steeeerike 3 .. You're OUT! |
| 19:35.17 | FrozenDawn | danand: no change on /proc/bus/input/devices |
| 19:35.30 | enouf | !pebkac |
| 19:35.31 | dpkg | i heard pebkac is Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair, or PEBCAK. PEBMAC, PICNIC. PEBRHAL, or http://pebkac.ubergoth.net/ |
| 19:35.47 | osmosis | how can I see what fs format a mounted partition is using ? |
| 19:35.59 | enouf | osmosis: file -s /dev/hdaX |
| 19:36.08 | wols | osmosis: "mount" |
| 19:36.10 | enouf | osmosis: mounted? df -hT |
| 19:36.24 | danand | osmosis - su -c 'fdisk -l' may work for you |
| 19:36.32 | enouf | danand: type only |
| 19:36.46 | osmosis | mount works |
| 19:36.47 | enouf | partition ID i should say |
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| 19:36.53 | danand | enouf - fair one |
| 19:37.06 | danand | Catch you all later - dinner time |
| 19:37.12 | Dunstkreis | hi everbody, ive got a new flat-server (newest debian, cups, samba, apache...). bevor this install i had a ubuntu on an other machine. but now my problem (and i didnt find anything on google) is that there is a beep in the speakers after (nearly) every page, send to the printer. Does anybody know how to turn off this annoying beep? (it hurts in the ears, while listening musik...) |
| 19:37.29 | danand | FrozenDawn - luck with that mouse! |
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| 19:37.38 | FrozenDawn | danand: yep |
| 19:37.52 | enouf | FrozenDawn: try some sunlight O.o |
| 19:37.53 | FrozenDawn | danand: I am about to try a change of kernel =P |
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| 19:38.25 | FrozenDawn | thanks, guys. I'll tell you if I ever get it to work =P |
| 19:38.30 | ``y7 | in my last 4 attempts to install debian 4.0, the computer has froze during installation. does this indicate a hardware failure of some sort? |
| 19:38.33 | Dunstkreis | FrozenD: danand is disconnected... |
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| 19:39.10 | enouf | ``y7: not again .. ugh .. please remove those annoying `` too :-) |
| 19:39.27 | y7 | sorry, it resets when i disconnect/reconnect |
| 19:39.32 | enouf | gracias ;-) |
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| 19:40.04 | enouf | now, when and how does it 'freeze' exactly? |
| 19:40.24 | y7 | all four times have been at different spots. the latest it has frozen at "configuring uswsusp" |
| 19:40.29 | enouf | what's your hardware? which debian iso are you using? |
| 19:40.31 | nollidj | i have a system running testing, and a number of packages that i would like to have (enigmail, ogle-mmx) are available in stable for my arch (x86-64) but not in testing |
| 19:40.32 | Dunstkreis | y7, did u run a memtest? |
| 19:40.41 | y7 | Dunstkreis, no |
| 19:40.58 | enouf | uswsusp? |
| 19:41.01 | y7 | i installed this same version on this box about 1 week ago and it worked fine with "installgui noapic" |
| 19:41.01 | enouf | wtf? |
| 19:41.29 | enouf | y7: you likey used pci=noacpi or acpi=off |
| 19:41.29 | nollidj | i've taken to installing the stable packages manually with dpkg, but i would like to be installing them through apt if i can. is the solution here to add stable repos below my testing repos in sources.list ? |
| 19:41.51 | nollidj | or should i avoid doing that for some reason (whether it's the differing versions of libc or something else) |
| 19:41.53 | enouf | y7: noapic deos help sometimes but more rarely |
| 19:41.56 | Dunstkreis | i had some crapy ram moduls last week... so so try a test. its finished in about 3 minuts. if there appers too much red, u should change the ram.... |
| 19:41.59 | wols | nollidj: yes |
| 19:42.04 | y7 | i used noapic, somebody in here told me to use that instead of the acpi=off because it kept stopping during installation with a noapic error |
| 19:42.13 | nollidj | wols: alright, then. i'll take your word for it :-) |
| 19:42.23 | enouf | answer other questions |
| 19:42.24 | y7 | would you like me to retry with acpi=off? |
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| 19:42.35 | y7 | let me read up and see what i missed |
| 19:42.45 | y7 | debian 4.0, amd cpu |
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| 19:43.04 | enouf | and it's a laptop? |
| 19:43.10 | y7 | no, desktop |
| 19:43.13 | enouf | amd cpu what? |
| 19:43.20 | y7 | mp 3200+ |
| 19:43.21 | enouf | athlon? amd64? |
| 19:43.25 | y7 | athlon |
| 19:43.33 | enouf | even though they're athlons as well |
| 19:43.45 | enouf | mp? .. hrm |
| 19:43.52 | y7 | multiple processor |
| 19:43.55 | y7 | made for dual cpu mobos |
| 19:43.57 | enouf | wtf is that? am2? |
| 19:44.00 | y7 | pretty much the same as xp |
| 19:44.05 | y7 | am2, yes |
| 19:44.12 | enouf | ok |
| 19:44.15 | enouf | so ddr2 |
| 19:44.16 | y7 | sorry, 2000+ |
| 19:44.22 | enouf | wtf? |
| 19:44.34 | y7 | amd athlon(TM) XP 2000+ is what bios reads |
| 19:44.36 | y7 | but it's an MP |
| 19:44.44 | enouf | 2000? there ain't no am2 2000\ |
| 19:44.45 | y7 | so i don't know what bios displays XP |
| 19:45.01 | y7 | AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+ |
| 19:45.05 | enouf | are you talking the olde 1xx, 2xx, 8xx models? |
| 19:45.26 | enouf | that's a k7 - forget mp |
| 19:45.38 | enouf | er |
| 19:45.43 | nollidj | wols: the few web sites i found mentioned some problems with running a mixed system. are you aware of these and what actual issues there may be? |
| 19:45.43 | y7 | A7M266-D socket A motherboard |
| 19:45.45 | enouf | unless it's a socket 940 |
| 19:45.53 | enouf | gah |
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| 19:46.21 | yoluca | hi all |
| 19:46.34 | yoluca | when is lenny due to came out ? |
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| 19:46.36 | wols | nollidj: this applies mainly to people on stable who want packages from testing or unstable |
| 19:46.43 | simonrvn | !wir |
| 19:46.44 | dpkg | methinks wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 19:46.46 | nollidj | wols: makes sense, and what i hoped to hear. thanks |
| 19:46.49 | yzaLyzarC | I want to kill a user of my box, how? (like remove every prosess they own). |
| 19:46.55 | nollidj | yzaLyzarC: slay |
| 19:47.08 | yzaLyzarC | ok |
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| 19:47.18 | yzaLyzarC | !patebin |
| 19:47.36 | simonrvn | !tell yzaLyzarC -about msg the bot |
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| 19:49.40 | yoluca | its gnash better then adobe flash ? i heard there is a issue with the adobe flash , is that right ? should i got for gnash to avoid any problems (crash..) |
| 19:49.54 | wols | yoluca: you should not |
| 19:50.00 | wols | !tell yoluca about gnash |
| 19:50.23 | yoluca | yeah already read that bit |
| 19:50.49 | enouf | y7: yeah, an older style mp, i see now, found the manual/pdf |
| 19:50.49 | yoluca | so adobe should be ok ... last time i had there was a problem with it ... iceweasel was crashing a lot |
| 19:50.55 | y7 | enouf, after about 20 seconds, it'll give me a solid black screen if i use installgui acpi=off. when i use noapic, i at least get in to the gui and get it somewhat installed |
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| 19:51.06 | enouf | y7: try both |
| 19:51.12 | y7 | ok |
| 19:51.21 | enouf | y7: try just install - forget gui |
| 19:51.26 | sunny | where does one find installer ISO's of previous versions of debian ? |
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| 19:51.36 | simonrvn | yoluca: the adobe crap will crash if you have sound enabled in ff/iceweasel |
| 19:51.41 | y7 | too late, the gui is going. you want me to continue or reboot? |
| 19:51.47 | enouf | y7: do you have 2 CPUs installed? |
| 19:51.50 | y7 | no |
| 19:51.56 | enouf | nah, let it go and try |
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| 19:52.12 | enouf | y7: but the mobo has 2 sockets and one is missing? |
| 19:52.14 | yzaLyzarC | What is the wall command? |
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| 19:52.19 | y7 | enouf, yes |
| 19:52.28 | y7 | the mobo is the a7m266-d |
| 19:52.30 | Eulex | yzaLyzarC, there are man pages. use them. |
| 19:52.34 | enouf | 25K/sec from ftp.asus.com, lol |
| 19:52.44 | simonrvn | yoluca: system-wide broadcasts... used only when there's actually a need for it |
| 19:52.48 | enouf | oops, 16k now, roflmao |
| 19:52.50 | yoluca | simonrvn well watching movies on youtube without sound its shit :) |
| 19:52.56 | simonrvn | yoluca: sorry, meant y7 |
| 19:53.05 | yoluca | np |
| 19:53.10 | simonrvn | yoluca: that's why i use other browsers |
| 19:53.13 | delire | i don't use a desktop environment, only a window manager. on my new Lenny install - as opposed to previous installs - i have terrible problems with 'sticky' entries in my copy buffer that can only be got rid of using something like xclipboard. any strategies to remedy this? |
| 19:53.15 | enouf | y7: i got that, ok |
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| 19:53.41 | enouf | y7: waiting for pdf, lol, slow as shit, plus asus' site sucks large ass |
| 19:53.47 | yoluca | simonrvn like ? what would be a good one after firefox ? |
| 19:53.53 | expose | I want to remotely mount disk as secure as possible. Suggestions? (sshfs, webdav+https are known so far) |
| 19:54.00 | y7 | it got past the black screen and is attempting to detect hardware now. so i'll let you know if it freezes again |
| 19:54.05 | enouf | y7: have you toyed with bios options? |
| 19:54.15 | y7 | i just don't understand why installgui noapic worked 1 week ago and yet it's freezing up now... nothing has changed |
| 19:54.17 | simonrvn | i often use galeon for multimedia like youtube, it doesn't have such issues |
| 19:54.22 | y7 | enouf, they are default |
| 19:54.41 | yzaLyzarC | Eulex: I just wanna know what it is, not how to usei |
| 19:54.43 | yzaLyzarC | it. |
| 19:55.05 | enouf | y7: well, you could've bumped a cable or DIMM or anything, altered bios settings, damaged something - maybe Mobo caps are bad |
| 19:55.31 | simonrvn | expose: those are pretty nice, also nfsv4 (kerberos+encryption), though i hear it's a bit slower than nfs v3 |
| 19:55.47 | yoluca | simonrvn ok ... i`ll give it a try |
| 19:55.58 | Eulex | yzaLyzarC, man pages say that too. "wall - write a message to users" |
| 19:56.00 | simonrvn | also have sfs |
| 19:56.07 | yzaLyzarC | ok |
| 19:56.14 | Eulex | "Wall displays the contents of file or, by default, its standard input, on the terminals of all currently logged in users." |
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| 19:58.02 | Dunstkreis | does anybody know why my speakers beep after a page is sent to the printer? |
| 19:58.02 | expose | simonrvn: then the traffic as such is unencrypted, but the data is still protected because of the on-disk encryption, right? |
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| 19:58.35 | simonrvn | expose: well for v4, there's 2 levels of security, one is just kerberos authc/authz, and the other is that plus traffic encryption |
| 19:58.55 | enouf | y7: do you have registered RAM or unbuffered in there? and how much? |
| 19:59.10 | y7 | 1gig and i don't know if it's registered or unbuffered |
| 19:59.26 | simonrvn | in your case the data itself would be safe... the encryption part of the nfsv4 is the slower part i mentioned |
| 19:59.33 | enouf | y7: well, as long as you BIOS does the detect correctly, you better know |
| 19:59.50 | expose | simonrvn: nfs4 encrypts traffic? nice. how save is that in the end if no further encryption of the data is done? |
| 19:59.53 | enouf | y7: 2GB tops of unbuffered, 3.x GB tops for registered |
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| 20:00.07 | Dunstkreis | but also if bios detects correctly, some chips could be damaged! |
| 20:00.19 | enouf | y7: here ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socka/760mpx/a7m266-d/a7m266d-103.pdf |
| 20:00.31 | simonrvn | expose: i'm not understanding the question |
| 20:00.55 | enouf | indeed Dunstkreis run memtests86+ |
| 20:01.02 | enouf | i concur |
| 20:01.05 | y7 | enouf, if the ram was no good, would it have installed fine the first time? |
| 20:01.16 | enouf | well, maybe you fried it :-P |
| 20:01.29 | y7 | seems unlikely considering it's 5 years old ;\ |
| 20:01.43 | enouf | or bumped it (need reseating) - but yeah, bad ram can be real flakey |
| 20:02.02 | mhall | Man. I really got raped on my taxes this year. I was a few bucks short of having to pax state AMT. o_O O_o |
| 20:02.07 | y7 | ok, well i have a spare 512mb stick that i can put in there |
| 20:02.16 | y7 | i'll give that a shot and if that works, we'll know the ram was the issue |
| 20:02.25 | enouf | stop postponing the inevitable - or try ioher distros too |
| 20:02.40 | enouf | y7: whoa |
| 20:02.42 | expose | simonrvn: well...if i have a regular ext3, nothing extra, nfs3 will be unencrypted, nfs4 could encrypt. right? if i also add disk-encryption, like dm-crypt, is the de/encryption done on the server or client? thus, is the data sent encrypted once or twice? |
| 20:02.51 | enouf | y7: make certain they're the same type! |
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| 20:03.02 | y7 | im going to take the other sticks out and put this one in alone |
| 20:03.08 | y7 | they are both 184pin |
| 20:03.13 | enouf | y7: you should try with only 1 stick installed |
| 20:03.17 | enouf | so what |
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| 20:03.25 | enouf | both 184 pin, lmao |
| 20:03.32 | y7 | =\ |
| 20:03.39 | y7 | one set is ecc the other non-ecc |
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| 20:03.43 | y7 | both are ddr 266 |
| 20:03.47 | Dunstkreis | i had an install working fine with damaged ram, but strange probs while runing the system, next install with this ram failed, and i runed a memtest86+ and figured out: nothing there from 512 to 1024!!! :) i returned the modul, got a new one, and everything was fine! |
| 20:03.48 | enouf | y7: registered have 1 more chip per DIMM |
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| 20:03.59 | wfq__ | hi |
| 20:04.02 | y7 | ok, well the ones that are in the computer are registered then |
| 20:04.04 | mhall | expose: If both ends are Unix you should consider a safer more modern file sharing protocol than NFS. |
| 20:04.05 | y7 | my spare one is not |
| 20:04.21 | expose | mhall: for instance? |
| 20:04.25 | enouf | <y7> one set is ecc the other non-ecc <-- whoa .. what? |
| 20:04.33 | enouf | oh "set" .. ok |
| 20:04.35 | y7 | they are not both installed |
| 20:04.36 | enouf | so a Pair |
| 20:04.41 | y7 | set meaning 2 512mb |
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| 20:05.07 | wAndyw78 | Is there a way to postprocess a postscript/pdf with ocr? Hint: We have an old CAD program which could only print. Therefore we use a postscript printer to create pdfs, but these cannot be searched |
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| 20:05.52 | y7 | currently in the computer are 2x512mb 9chips per side ddr 266mhz 184pin. my spare ram chip is an 8 chip per side of ram with ddr266mhz 184pin |
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| 20:07.01 | xingu | mhall: ouch |
| 20:07.18 | enouf | y7: installed are double sided? or single? (though shouldn't matter) .. more importantly, the BIOS sees them as Registered dimms? |
| 20:07.30 | mhall | expose: Coda or Lustre |
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| 20:08.11 | expose | mhall: thanks |
| 20:08.11 | mhall | expose: NFS is kind of an infamously dangerous protocol. |
| 20:08.11 | y7 | hold on a sec, ima open the case and look |
| 20:08.11 | jelly-home | y7: I don't think you can mix ECC (9-chip) and non-ECC (8-chip) memory |
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| 20:08.11 | y7 | jelly-home, you can't |
| 20:08.17 | y7 | thus, i would take the ecc out and put the non-ecc in |
| 20:08.18 | mhall | expose: I think there might be some way to encrypt iSCSI also but that is probably too lowlevel for whatever you are doing. |
| 20:08.18 | expose | mhall: yes, i know for older version, am not aware of what v4 brings. but...new versions of dangerous stuff is seldomly far better |
| 20:08.54 | mhall | expose: On that note you could also consider IPSEC / PPTP / SSL VPN type solutions. |
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| 20:09.00 | expose | mhall: basically, i want to access my data in a secure and convenient (--> mounting) way while i travel with the notebook. |
| 20:09.16 | mhall | xingu: yeah, no kidding |
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| 20:09.28 | mhall | expose: yeah for that you might find VPN works best |
| 20:09.40 | mhall | expose: you can get a cheap VPN router and plug it to your home broadband |
| 20:09.43 | expose | mmm...that would be yet another tunnel :-) |
| 20:09.48 | y7 | enouf: double-sided |
| 20:10.00 | mhall | expose: upside of it would be you could even use telnet and it'd be safe |
| 20:10.07 | enouf | y7: ok, should be fine, it was working with those one week ago, yes? |
| 20:10.07 | expose | and besides - i want some inside-the-tunnel security as well. the more levels you build, the better. |
| 20:10.22 | mhall | expose: also ssl vpn is good at getting past strict firewalls you might find on hotspots |
| 20:10.25 | wols | wanting to delete old linux kernel files in ~. what is wrong with this command "adlatus:~# rm linux * |
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| 20:10.30 | wols | ? :) |
| 20:10.32 | enouf | y7: you are certain each one inserted is the SAME, yes? |
| 20:10.36 | y7 | enouf, yes. somebody tried to get me to update to lenny and apparently my cpu or video card wasn't compatible, so i figured i'd start over again |
| 20:10.50 | y7 | enouf, yes, they are a pair of kingston ram chips that have the same stickers on them |
| 20:10.58 | enouf | y7: ok, great |
| 20:11.09 | enouf | y7: just check your BIOS settings |
| 20:11.13 | y7 | before debian, i was running win2k on them for 5 years ;) |
| 20:11.15 | enouf | (when you can) |
| 20:11.16 | mhall | expose: lustre might be a good choice since it is designed to have a lot of caching / ha / replication ability |
| 20:11.17 | y7 | ok |
| 20:11.27 | y7 | what do you want me to look for specifically in the bios settings? |
| 20:11.27 | freeall | hello. what's the command to list the files installed from a specific package? |
| 20:11.28 | mhall | expose: these things could be helpful when remote |
| 20:11.41 | mhall | wols: you put an extra space |
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| 20:12.04 | mhall | wols: the second most infamous mistake involving the kleene star operator |
| 20:12.05 | enouf | y7: the RAM settings specifically - (also an aside while case is open look at Capacitors |
| 20:12.18 | mhall | wols: first most infamous being using it in the wrong directory |
| 20:12.21 | expose | mhall: that seems to be good. |
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| 20:12.44 | mhall | wols: hence why it's good to put the directory in your prompt |
| 20:12.47 | enouf | y7: Bus Speed, Timings, all that |
| 20:12.52 | mhall | wols: so you don't @#$% yourself like that |
| 20:13.00 | mhall | wols: and make sure you read and reread every rm |
| 20:13.30 | mhall | expose: a lot of big fancy places deploy it, it's a pretty hardcore FS |
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| 20:13.34 | mhall | expose: maybe even overkill |
| 20:13.44 | mhall | expose: so coda could be better... just depends |
| 20:13.53 | enouf | !tell freeall -about grounding |
| 20:14.39 | enouf | freeall: er, well dpkg -L <pkgname> |
| 20:14.42 | Tramp | mhall: in this context "*" is not a Kleene star, it's a wildcard |
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| 20:14.58 | freeall | enouf: thanks |
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| 20:15.21 | y7 | the capacitors all look fine... installation is ~30% complete |
| 20:16.25 | xingu | someone needs to get off their arse and write dm-cache - local block cache, lazy commit. |
| 20:16.58 | expose | mhall: thanks. i'll check them out |
| 20:17.20 | mhall | Tramp: yeah you are right... my bad |
| 20:17.29 | Tramp | np |
| 20:17.31 | xingu | well bugger me, 2s and google, and it already exists |
| 20:17.54 | mhall | Tramp: i always get the two confused because when I write my fs code i usually tend to use regex.h matching instead of glob.h |
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| 20:18.03 | mhall | Tramp: glob.h is too inflexible for the stuff i do, lol |
| 20:18.50 | mhall | xingu: yeah don't nominate me for FS stuff. not my thing. |
| 20:19.06 | wfq__ | I am having problems to get my network card working with WEP |
| 20:19.22 | wfq__ | Could anyone please put me over the clue to fix it ? http://pastebin.com/m456a5e8c |
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| 20:19.29 | mhall | xingu: if it was network application development or network management standards (sFlow/SNMP/RFC????) that'd be a very different story |
| 20:19.35 | mhall | epoll to the rescue, bwahahaha |
| 20:19.46 | FrozenDawn | enouf: got the mouse to work ! in the end, it turns out that cat /dev/ttyS0 does not output text ... |
| 20:20.04 | FrozenDawn | enouf: thanks for the aid |
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| 20:21.01 | alaya | hi, anything other than linux-image-2.6-amd64 and amd64-libs that should be installed for a core2duo CPU? (not running amd64 port) |
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| 20:22.32 | wfq__ | anyone knows something that I am missing? |
| 20:22.53 | daidalus13 | hi. I am about to upgrade from sarge to etch. On debian.org is mentioned that the upgrade should NOT be done "from an X session managed by xdm, gdm or kdm". I am running gnome. How can I access a "a textmode virtual console" that is also suggested on debian.org? |
| 20:23.12 | Eulex | ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 20:23.55 | Tramp | wfq__: what happens, if you ifup your card? what is the output of iwconfig? |
| 20:24.45 | daidalus13 | EUlex:thanks. |
| 20:24.56 | Eulex | yw |
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| 20:27.01 | yzaLyzarC | Any good text based debian games? |
| 20:27.24 | Aciid | nethack?!? |
| 20:27.25 | ApTek | tetris? :) |
| 20:27.31 | amphi | yzaLyzarC: there's a z-machine interpreter for infocom-style games |
| 20:28.06 | yzaLyzarC | can you explain what the do? |
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| 20:29.06 | yzaLyzarC | installing nethack, is the package named tetris= |
| 20:29.08 | yzaLyzarC | ? |
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| 20:30.03 | amphi | yzaLyzarC: 'interactive fiction' is another name for them |
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| 20:30.22 | yzaLyzarC | Dont understand nethack |
| 20:30.34 | yoluca | Failed to start Volume Control: Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory) gnome-volume-manager its installed if this is what i need |
| 20:31.57 | y7 | enouf, i did do one thing differently. i selected ftp.us.debian.org instead of ftp.debian.org. this doesn't seem like it could be the difference maker, but is there any way at all that that could be my problem? |
| 20:32.01 | yoluca | gnome-media is what i need :)) |
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| 20:32.47 | yzaLyzarC | 21:29 < amphi> yzaLyzarC: there's a z-machine interpreter for infocom-style games |
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| 20:36.45 | xlotlu | how could i create a lvm-ready cross-arch initrd? |
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| 20:40.29 | enouf | y7: was afk .. and erm, you never got that far before, i thought |
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| 20:43.01 | enouf | y7: you said prior something about uswsusp, why/how is that even in the installation choices? i mean, forget all that crap at first, it's not like it's a laptop anyway |
| 20:43.55 | jelly-home | enouf: he'd said the boot sequence stopped at various places, one of them being uswsusp (which is in initrd by default afair) |
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| 20:44.44 | enouf | y7: one more thing .. in your situation , i would try "lapic" option, not noapic, however, since the other cpu is non-existant, maybe noapic is correct |
| 20:45.02 | enouf | jelly-home: hrm, in the initrd? |
| 20:45.19 | enouf | really odd to me if it is |
| 20:45.28 | yzaLyzarC | Is 202 tasks a lot to be running while the computer is doing nothing? |
| 20:45.38 | yoluca | W: GPG error: http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C |
| 20:45.56 | yoluca | apt-get update doesnt solve the problem |
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| 20:46.13 | jelly-home | enouf: uswsusp has an early-userspace part that detects the hibernated image, unpacks and tries to resume if it exists. |
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| 20:46.25 | biz | yoluca: aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring |
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| 20:46.52 | biz | yoluca: sorry, misread your question |
| 20:46.54 | enouf | yzaLyzarC: tasks? try as root lsof | grep unix | wc -l |
| 20:47.15 | yoluca | ok |
| 20:47.15 | yzaLyzarC | enouf: What does it do? I used htop. |
| 20:47.25 | biz | yoluca: wget -O - http://backports.org/debian/archive.key | apt-key add - |
| 20:47.32 | enouf | jelly-home: yuck .. maybe there should be a depends on laptop-mode install for that |
| 20:47.56 | hark | yoluca: there's a backports keyring too |
| 20:48.02 | jelly-home | enouf: ? it has nothing to do with laptop-mode |
| 20:48.13 | yoluca | biz thanks |
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| 20:48.22 | yoluca | hark solved , thanks |
| 20:48.29 | jelly-home | desktops are perfectly capable of hibernation |
| 20:48.42 | enouf | jelly-home: right, but it should imo, i know they are, and it's fucken stupid |
| 20:49.03 | enouf | it should be added afterwards with acpi crap |
| 20:49.29 | jelly-home | might be true; but then you'd need to regenerate initrd |
| 20:49.59 | jelly-home | the initial one has everything afaik, it's a huge monster |
| 20:50.09 | enouf | right, installation of kernel does that, so a script can easily run update-initramfs (or whatever) |
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| 20:52.00 | dmg | is there a dh-make-perl equivalent for python? or more specifically, I know the Debian way for python is to install into .../site-packages, but what's the 'proper' way to do that with setup.py? |
| 20:52.17 | enouf | i wonder how much less of a hitch that install would go with both cpu slots populated, if much better and without a hitch, well then it's a rare circumstance and buggy bios, since it is a workstation machine though, considering and install on a one CPU MP machine shouldn't be a bear |
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| 20:52.23 | dutchfish | dmg, yada |
| 20:52.53 | enouf | hrm .. i recall a CPU= option now, oh ffs |
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| 20:53.12 | dmg | dutchfish: but a random python package I grab off the web isn't likely to have a debian/packages file. |
| 20:53.35 | enouf | ahh maxcpus= option |
| 20:53.52 | Hadaka | latest nvidia package causes X to segfault, what gives? |
| 20:54.02 | enouf | n=0 is a special case, it is equivalent to "nosmp", which also disables the IO APIC |
| 20:54.02 | y7 | enouf, it made it farther than it's currently at before. so we'll see what happens. i do the basic installation as far as leaving everything default on setup. |
| 20:54.08 | enouf | y7: look up |
| 20:54.35 | enouf | y7: did you ever check the mobo caps? how about ram settings? |
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| 20:55.19 | enouf | y7: ever get to "tasksel" yet? (standard, desktop, file server, mail server, web server, etc choices) ? |
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| 20:56.24 | jelly-home | y7: stupid idea: have you tried kmuto images with newer kernels? |
| 20:56.38 | y7 | enouf, i made it past that tasksel each time. i selected the desktop/standard which is preselected and left the mailserver, webserver fileserver, etc unchecked |
| 20:56.41 | enouf | heh, which installer is he using anyways? |
| 20:56.57 | y7 | jelly-home, i have no idea what kmuto images are ;\ |
| 20:57.03 | jelly-home | !kmuto |
| 20:57.03 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 20:57.05 | y7 | i386 debian 4.0 |
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| 20:57.20 | enouf | y7: ok, that's standard, try deselecting Desktop (spacebar) |
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| 20:57.50 | y7 | the only thing i changed with the installation from when it worked to now, is that i changed the ftp.debian.org to ftp.us.debian.org |
| 20:57.56 | jelly-home | y7: just normal stable debian netinst images, but with updated kernel on them. Last time I took a look, there were images with 2.6.22 and 2.6.23 available |
| 20:57.57 | enouf | hrm - jelly-home yeah, might help, even though it's an 2001/02 motherboard |
| 20:58.06 | jelly-home | enouf: oh. |
| 20:58.39 | jelly-home | enouf: in that case I suspect hw. :-) |
| 20:58.39 | enouf | jelly-home: he did a .24 recently too for an eeepc friend |
| 20:58.39 | y7 | hw? |
| 20:58.39 | enouf | hardware |
| 20:58.39 | jelly-home | hardware |
| 20:58.40 | y7 | roger |
| 20:58.44 | jelly-home | moore |
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| 21:00.24 | enouf | y7: fwiw, the kernel params are listed here http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.24/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt note the "maxcpu=" option .. just a thought, to try maybe - listen, i'll be nearby over the next minutes but busy, then i have to split for a while |
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| 21:00.47 | Gun_Smoke | I can't seem to figure out why I have no sound, or access to external storage devices in my gf's account. I think possible running alsaconfg under her account should correct the sound issue. But the access to the x-hd and the mp3 player confuse me. I believe it must be some permission issue regarding her user. I used to know how to give her account the same permissions as mine in gnome and I've just started to figure my way around k |
| 21:01.14 | y7 | the current install is still going, should i cancel and try fwiw? |
| 21:01.27 | enouf | y7: note that's the .24 options, so all those listed won't apply, locaste the .18 options, whatever - i know "maxcpus=" and 95-98% of he others did for .18 |
| 21:02.00 | dutchfish | Gun_Smoke, is the user in the audio grioup? |
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| 21:02.53 | enouf | y7: nah, let it go, now's a good time to open the case and look for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague |
| 21:03.24 | enouf | y7: IIRC, around the time/era was the plague |
| 21:03.39 | Gun_Smoke | dutchfish: in the KDE User Manager? Just selecting sound group should do it? |
| 21:03.44 | y7 | ok |
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| 21:03.54 | bolt | Is there a way to easily print all the \<insertnumberhere> character codes? trying to create some ascii |
| 21:03.58 | Gun_Smoke | err audio |
| 21:04.12 | bolt | a console program |
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| 21:04.45 | dutchfish | Gun_Smoke, or editing /etc/group and adding this user to the audio griup |
| 21:05.07 | dutchfish | Gun_Smoke, group* (damn keb) |
| 21:05.48 | Gun_Smoke | dutchfish: Any reason not to have a user belong to all groups minus root? |
| 21:06.05 | dutchfish | Gun_Smoke, security |
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| 21:06.22 | bond007 | say i set up a samba print server using cups, and am able to print stuff with it on windows boxes, but am unable to find a way to allow my debian systems to access/print to it - can anyone help me? |
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| 21:06.52 | Gun_Smoke | dutchfish: It's just the 2 of us. And not overly concerned with security.. There is nothing important on the box. |
| 21:07.13 | bitmonster | can anyone help me to setup an ati mobility radeon 7500 for dual head usage? |
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| 21:07.57 | peter__ | Hi, im looking for a package the contains login.c anyone know what package it is in? |
| 21:08.18 | dutchfish | !tell peter__ about apt-file |
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| 21:12.37 | xlotlu | what happened with frewire eth? it used to work with ohci1394, but now it's firewire-ohci, and it only creates a /dev/fw0, no interface.. |
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| 21:13.13 | enouf | xlotlu: maybe raw1394? |
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| 21:14.01 | enouf | xlotlu: oh eth? my bad |
| 21:14.03 | xlotlu | enouf: nothing like that |
| 21:14.08 | enouf | try eth1394 maybe |
| 21:14.20 | cizzi | how do you test for an empty string variable in bash? |
| 21:14.25 | cizzi | i tried if $a= " " |
| 21:14.26 | xlotlu | enouf: everything *1394* is gone |
| 21:14.42 | enouf | even from lspci? |
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| 21:14.54 | enouf | xlotlu: and which kernel? |
| 21:15.08 | xlotlu | enouf: i mean kernel modules. (.23) |
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| 21:15.26 | enouf | modprobe -l | grep 1394 |
| 21:15.37 | enouf | well, who built it? |
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| 21:15.54 | jetscreamer | cizzi: http://wooledge.org:8000/BashFAQ .. see also #bash |
| 21:15.55 | xlotlu | the debian kernel team did :) |
| 21:16.04 | cizzi | thanks jet |
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| 21:16.12 | jetscreamer | cizzi: [[ ]] |
| 21:16.14 | enouf | ok |
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| 21:16.22 | enouf | check the changelogs |
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| 21:23.01 | y7 | enouf: it appears to have frozen on "configuring libxineramal" this time. im not sure if it made it farther or not. the bar is about at the same place |
| 21:23.28 | y7 | i'll try what you suggested above. but im tired of dealing with it right now, so ima go rest and try again tomorrow. thx for the help. |
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| 21:24.00 | jetscreamer | y7: remember the term dpkg --configure -a |
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| 21:24.19 | jetscreamer | you may need it if you kill that upgrade |
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| 21:24.40 | enouf | y7: ok, you still have quite a few things to ccheck, a) memtest86+ (i told you try with one stick only to narrow that down) .. b) bad caps, BIOS settings .. c) other (various) kernel params at boot prompt - i'd likely try "maxcpus=0 lapic" .. but ok |
| 21:24.42 | y7 | i can't just reformat if i kill that upgrade? |
| 21:25.10 | enouf | sure, i gotta go real soon too |
| 21:25.22 | y7 | ok, thanks for the help guys |
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| 21:26.05 | enouf | y7: use your registered nick (when here), in case maybe someone sends you a /memoserv |
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| 21:28.18 | ross` | can someone tell me what to do now? i installed debian then edited /etc/network/interfaces and stuck in the right stuff. then i did ifconfig eth0 up then i did /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 21:28.23 | ross` | what did i forget |
| 21:29.13 | Eulex | ross`, you haven't given us any info about what is wrong... |
| 21:29.23 | ross` | im not online |
| 21:29.43 | Eulex | what does ifconfig eth0 output, does it have an ip? |
| 21:30.12 | ross` | lookup failure type --help blah blah blah |
| 21:30.16 | ross` | oh wait |
| 21:30.20 | ross` | don't actually type output |
| 21:30.21 | ross` | one sec |
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| 21:30.41 | ross` | no put it says up broadcast running |
| 21:30.58 | ross` | all i need to do is ifconfig eth0 theipaddress |
| 21:31.02 | ross` | and itll be good to go? |
| 21:31.13 | Eulex | do you use dhcp? |
| 21:31.21 | ross` | no |
| 21:31.33 | ross` | i didn't do dchp on install |
| 21:31.35 | Eulex | then you should fill in your ip in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:31.40 | ross` | ii did that |
| 21:31.48 | Eulex | how does that file look? |
| 21:31.52 | ross` | i did iface eth0 inet static |
| 21:32.04 | ross` | address 192.168.182.71 |
| 21:32.07 | ross` | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 21:32.16 | ross` | gateway 192.168.182.3 |
| 21:32.25 | ross` | and my friends router forwards the external static |
| 21:32.29 | ross` | from that lan |
| 21:32.33 | ross` | that's jsut how he has it setup |
| 21:32.40 | ross` | so externally its a static |
| 21:32.44 | ross` | so anyway |
| 21:32.49 | ross` | all i have to do then |
| 21:32.54 | ross` | is ifconfig eth0 ipaddress/ |
| 21:32.56 | ross` | ? |
| 21:33.02 | Eulex | a tab begins the address, netmask and gateway lines, right? |
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| 21:33.33 | edico | hi guys |
| 21:33.33 | ross` | yes Eulex |
| 21:33.47 | edico | what libraries I need here http://pastebin.com/m79f92e35 ? |
| 21:33.57 | Eulex | ross`, ah, do you have auto eth0 in that file? |
| 21:33.58 | screamingbytes | ross': http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html every possible option for dhcp/static config specific to deb, examples, file examples, and commands for troubleshooting, testing, and bringing the iface up and down. |
| 21:34.07 | ross` | auto eth0..? |
| 21:34.15 | ross` | it says auto lo |
| 21:34.21 | Eulex | ross`, makes /etc/init.d/networking automatically setup eth0 |
| 21:34.32 | ross` | and iface lo inet loopback |
| 21:34.37 | ross` | but nothing is below that |
| 21:34.41 | Eulex | ross`, you could change it to auto lo eth0 , then it would automatically set up both lo and eth0 |
| 21:34.44 | ross` | so change auto low to auto eth0 |
| 21:34.47 | ross` | and delete that second line? |
| 21:34.52 | Eulex | ross`, lo is localhost aka 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:34.57 | ross` | do i want it to set up lo? |
| 21:34.58 | Eulex | you want to keep it |
| 21:35.01 | ross` | k |
| 21:35.01 | Eulex | yes |
| 21:35.07 | ross` | ill add eth0 then restart network? |
| 21:35.07 | Tramp | !tell edico about menuconfig |
| 21:35.11 | Eulex | ross`, yes |
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| 21:35.50 | ross` | sweet im online |
| 21:35.51 | ross` | thanks |
| 21:35.59 | ross` | atleast i think |
| 21:36.00 | abrotman | RichiH: what was the outcome ? |
| 21:36.04 | ross` | lets see how much packet loss i have from google |
| 21:36.16 | ross` | woah |
| 21:36.20 | ross` | 25%!? |
| 21:36.31 | ross` | isnt that alot? |
| 21:36.32 | edico | I installed ncurses-base |
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| 21:37.05 | Eulex | ross`, it is |
| 21:37.28 | Eulex | ross`, I'd suggest using mtr to find out where the packet loss is originating from |
| 21:38.08 | Tramp | edico: what exactly was unclear in the information dpkg gave you? |
| 21:38.25 | ross` | i think its ok now |
| 21:38.55 | ross` | i added the 2 lines for ftp.us.debian.org/debian in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:38.59 | ross` | i should be good to go |
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| 21:39.32 | ServerSide | Do anyone know how can gnome start apps at boot that was running just before the shutdowning? |
| 21:39.42 | ross` | Eulex: could you help me install quota as this is a public server |
| 21:39.44 | ross` | i read the man file but.. |
| 21:39.48 | ross` | im having issues |
| 21:39.52 | ross` | thats the reason i reinstalled this server |
| 21:40.05 | Eulex | ross`, sorry, I never used quotas |
| 21:40.06 | ross` | cause following the driections i installed quota's bad |
| 21:40.32 | ross` | =/ |
| 21:40.53 | ross` | can someone here help me with quotas |
| 21:41.02 | RichiH | abrotman: ron is not happy with, but willing to accept a parallel 2.8 upload. i emailed everyone who showed an actual interest in packaging about this. side note, ron deleted all blocking bugs from his bugs |
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| 21:41.26 | abrotman | RichiH: i'm not sure if this is good or bad .. but at least he's willing to cooperate i suppose |
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| 21:41.36 | stefanix | ciao da roma |
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| 21:42.05 | abrotman | RichiH: and honestly .. if 2.6 and 2.8 coexist in sid .. people can try to use 2.8 and if it proves buggy and their apps work with 2.6 then they can depend on 2.6 |
| 21:42.07 | abrotman | !it |
| 21:42.08 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana, prova il canale #debian-it, oppure #linux-it. |
| 21:42.11 | DustyBin | does linux recognize 1TB SATA hard drives ok? |
| 21:42.21 | jetscreamer | RichiH: this is ron the 'nice guy' eh |
| 21:42.36 | RichiH | abrotman: he is not ;) |
| 21:42.40 | RichiH | jetscreamer: aye |
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| 21:42.54 | jetscreamer | i read that link last night with the mailing list thing... |
| 21:42.56 | jetscreamer | sheesh |
| 21:42.59 | abrotman | RichiH: oh .. so he's allowing a group to NMU it ? |
| 21:43.35 | RichiH | abrotman: not willingly, but yes |
| 21:43.57 | abrotman | RichiH: well .. i guess that's a good thing .. did he give an ETA for 3.0 ? |
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| 21:44.46 | screamingbytes | ross`: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Quota.html |
| 21:45.27 | jetscreamer | DustyBin: recent kernels do, you need that large block device enabled.. and it it in recent ones |
| 21:45.38 | jetscreamer | and it is... |
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| 21:46.16 | vorpal | does anyone know if it is safe to format compact flash with ext2? |
| 21:46.19 | peter__ | hmm, where can i find the source files for the binaries in /bin ? |
| 21:47.08 | ross` | how do i make it so taht only root can change passwds |
| 21:47.17 | ross` | so taht normal users can't do passwd |
| 21:47.26 | jmdc | peter__: apt-get source <pkg> |
| 21:47.32 | peter__ | ross`: probably change permissions on passwd file |
| 21:47.33 | vorpal | ross`: just change permissions |
| 21:47.49 | ross` | how do i do that |
| 21:47.51 | vorpal | not on the passwd file, but on the passwd program |
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| 21:47.55 | ross` | how do i block the command passwd |
| 21:47.59 | ross` | from normal user |
| 21:48.09 | vorpal | ross`: man chmod |
| 21:48.14 | vorpal | !man chmod |
| 21:48.23 | ross` | please just tell me what in chmod i have to type |
| 21:48.25 | ross` | please |
| 21:48.29 | vorpal | OMG |
| 21:48.32 | ross` | :) |
| 21:48.36 | ross` | chmod what passwd? |
| 21:48.37 | ross` | i think? |
| 21:48.39 | ross` | im not sure |
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| 21:48.44 | peter__ | chmod oug-rxw /usr/bin/passwd |
| 21:48.46 | peter__ | :) |
| 21:48.47 | screamingbytes | ross`: seriously, you need to learn mor about debian before you run a public server |
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| 21:48.52 | vorpal | ross`: jesus, you need to learn some unix basics, if you're going to sysadmin |
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| 21:48.58 | ross` | is /etc/passwd and the command passwd the same? |
| 21:49.06 | ross` | look please just tell me |
| 21:49.10 | ross` | =/ |
| 21:49.12 | vorpal | no |
| 21:49.16 | RichiH | abrotman: no |
| 21:49.18 | vorpal | go read the manual page |
| 21:49.19 | ross` | wow.. |
| 21:49.25 | ross` | you realize you could save me hours right |
| 21:49.31 | ross` | by telling me what the root permission is |
| 21:49.33 | Eulex | !tell ross` about permissions |
| 21:49.33 | screamingbytes | ross`: i don't help ppl who havn't tried to help themselves first, and the help i receive is the same |
| 21:49.34 | ross` | that's not very helpful |
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| 21:49.41 | RichiH | abrotman: best thing i can offer is 'i wrote email to the people who showed interest in packaging 2.8' |
| 21:49.42 | abrotman | RichiH: yeah .. see that makes it hard IMO to hold up 2.8 when 3.0 has no ETA at all |
| 21:49.43 | vorpal | ross`: we've all put the time in to learn. |
| 21:49.59 | abrotman | RichiH: even if it is badly buggy .. but whatever |
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| 21:50.15 | ross` | can you cmhod commands |
| 21:50.19 | ross` | or just files |
| 21:50.21 | vorpal | man chmod |
| 21:50.27 | abrotman | he could put 2.8 in experimental .. and allow packages that depend on 2.8 to stay there |
| 21:50.30 | ross` | and is the file /etc/passwd the same as the command passwd |
| 21:50.32 | ross` | I AM READING IT |
| 21:50.34 | screamingbytes | ross`: maybe you should install fedora or mandriva and get someone to hold your hand through this stuff |
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| 21:50.36 | vorpal | man passwd |
| 21:50.41 | jmdc | seq and /usr/bin/seq aren't behaving the same, but I've looked in every directory in my path and the only other file named seq, /usr/bin/X11/seq behaves exactly the same as /usr/bin/seq. AFAIK seq is not a bash built-in? Take a look at what I'm looking at here: http://paste.debian.net/48360 |
| 21:50.44 | peter__ | jmdc: thx, it worked :O! |
| 21:50.45 | Eulex | ross`, 'commands' have files |
| 21:50.51 | abrotman | ross`: yes .. but you normally don't want to .. changing permissions on files/commands is usually a bad idea . |
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| 21:50.56 | vorpal | man file |
| 21:50.58 | vorpal | man man |
| 21:51.03 | abrotman | ross`: and FYI .. almost everything in linux is technically a file |
| 21:51.06 | Eulex | ross`, I'd suggest looking in /bin and /usr/bin |
| 21:51.08 | Free-Thinker | hello. how can i run a script automatically after resume from sleep/hibernate? thanks. |
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| 21:51.24 | ross` | this is so unhelpful its not even funny im not getting anythign outa this chmod manual.. |
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| 21:51.31 | abrotman | Free-Thinker: /etc/acpi/ .. try looking in there |
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| 21:51.41 | vorpal | http://google.com/q=unix+tutorial |
| 21:51.46 | abrotman | vorpal: you can stop now |
| 21:51.55 | vorpal | abrotman: just trying to help him |
| 21:51.59 | abrotman | he left |
| 21:52.03 | vorpal | oh, right |
| 21:52.04 | vorpal | sorry |
| 21:52.06 | Tramp | jmdc: what gives "type seq" ? |
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| 21:53.02 | lbc | Did the 2.6.23 kernel get dissaproved by the Project ? |
| 21:53.04 | jmdc | Tramp: oh, this interesting. seq is a function |
| 21:53.12 | abrotman | lbc: it get replaced in unstable by .24 |
| 21:53.17 | Tramp | jmdc: that's what I thought. |
| 21:53.24 | jmdc | Tramp: thanks, I should have thought of that. |
| 21:53.24 | abrotman | lbc: testing still has .22 |
| 21:53.27 | jetscreamer | lbc: i heard it got replaced so quick it didn't even make it into testing |
| 21:53.34 | lbc | ok, thanks |
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| 21:54.01 | abrotman | jetscreamer: AIUI .. .23 was fairly buggy also |
| 21:54.15 | jmdc | interestingly, the function is horribly broken. I mean seq 1 5 gives the integers from 1 to 6? |
| 21:54.22 | abrotman | screamingbytes: is it a cheeseburger? |
| 21:54.34 | lbc | hmm.. could the different device node assignment scheme be one of the cause for that abrotman ? |
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| 21:54.43 | Free-Thinker | abrotman: thx. the problem is actually a bit strange. i'm loosing my wi-fi connection when i resume (the interface is down). when boot regullary, the wpasupplicant configures fine and i get exactly whats configured in configs. but when i resume, the iface is down and i need to run wpa supplicant manually, which is annoying. so, i searched and found that u can uncomment the network lines in hibernate config so it brings up and down |
| 21:54.43 | Free-Thinker | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.43 | abrotman | jmdc: it gies 1 2 3 4 5 |
| 21:54.50 | screamingbytes | abrotman: a double cheeseburger w/ bacon at that |
| 21:55.04 | abrotman | lbc: i don't know what you're referring to |
| 21:55.26 | Free-Thinker | so i wrote a script to run wpa supplicant... i see this as the only way to not do it manually after resume |
| 21:55.29 | Tramp | jmdc: well. Blame whoever wrote the function then. |
| 21:55.30 | abrotman | Free-Thinker: your driver might be crashing on suspend .. you might have to remodprobe the driver and then run the config stuff |
| 21:55.30 | lbc | abrotman : for example , a /dev/sda turning into a /dev/sdc |
| 21:55.38 | abrotman | lbc: that might be udev |
| 21:56.03 | jmdc | Tramp: yeah, it wasn't me. I guess this is what I get for using ubuntu on some machines... |
| 21:56.16 | chemist | what command can I issue to view all teh drives, including unmounted ones? |
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| 21:56.22 | Eulex | jmdc, umh, well, ubuntu isn't supported in here |
| 21:56.26 | Free-Thinker | abrotman: hmm... but i dont need to modprobe it if i run wpa manually.... |
| 21:56.34 | Eulex | chemist, fdisk -l |
| 21:56.42 | chemist | Eulex: thanx |
| 21:56.49 | RichiH | abrotman: he did not have too many people agree with him |
| 21:56.57 | RichiH | abrotman: now it's down to 'someone needs to do it' |
| 21:57.06 | abrotman | RichiH: so if no one steps up .. tough shit? |
| 21:57.25 | abrotman | Free-Thinker: see /etc/acpi/resume.d/ perhaps ? |
| 21:57.45 | abrotman | Free-Thinker: i'd guess all +x scripts in that dir are run when the system is resumed |
| 21:57.52 | jmdc | Eulex: I prefer the quality of the advice around here to #ubuntu, but have no expectation that their weirdness would be supported |
| 21:57.56 | lbc | abrotman, yeah, I spent the afternoon learning about it and trying to create rules for it, but my understanding is that udev works on top of the kernel, which first assigns nodes to the devices it detects... apparently in .23 the order in which my host bus adapters were detected changed |
| 21:58.03 | RichiH | abrotman: yes |
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| 21:58.09 | abrotman | RichiH: well .. that's lovely :) |
| 21:58.16 | abrotman | RichiH: sounds like you're on your way to becoming a DD :) |
| 21:58.26 | abrotman | lbc: /msg dpkg z25 |
| 21:58.30 | Free-Thinker | abrotman: thanks. ill check it out |
| 21:58.39 | abrotman | lbc: that might be related |
| 21:58.40 | Cr3ature | how do you see process nice |
| 21:58.41 | RichiH | abrotman: i don't need it that badly ;) |
| 21:58.47 | Cr3ature | ps aux won't display nice |
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| 21:59.21 | Eulex | jmdc, right, but could you please refer to #ubuntu when asking about problems experienced on boxes running ubuntu? we can't possibly support ubuntu. there are differences, and the advice we give might end up breaking your system. |
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| 21:59.58 | abrotman | RichiH: and i think that's the same thing he's seeing from other people .. they all want it but no one wants to take responsibility .. which sucks for everyone i suppose |
| 22:00.23 | lbc | abrotman, nah, that's for network adapters... it's easier to create rules for them simply based on their MAC addy, but for host bus adapters (SATA/PATA/SCSI controllers) I couldn't find an equivalent to that ... |
| 22:00.29 | RichiH | abrotman: there are several packages of it and a git repo on alioth |
| 22:00.34 | RichiH | abrotman: some people care |
| 22:01.09 | abrotman | lbc: i'd really tihnk udev does that .. but i've not had a ton of issues with udev |
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| 22:01.29 | abrotman | RichiH: hopefully it won't take too long then |
| 22:01.33 | Cr3ature | how do you see the nice |
| 22:01.36 | Cr3ature | for process |
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| 22:02.15 | Eulex | Cr3ature, top will show it |
| 22:02.24 | Eulex | Cr3ature, NI columnt |
| 22:02.27 | Eulex | -t |
| 22:02.27 | Cr3ature | k |
| 22:02.35 | jetscreamer | can some/any dhcp server serve up 2 different ip's per nic? just curious/wondering |
| 22:02.35 | abrotman | Eulex: man ps .. i believe there's an optoin |
| 22:02.41 | Tramp | Cr3ature: e.g. "ps -e -o pid,cmd,ni" - for details "man ps" |
| 22:02.46 | Eulex | Cr3ature, ^^ |
| 22:03.02 | jetscreamer | simple yes/no |
| 22:03.05 | coopsh | I'm using Debian Etch and I really need git-1.5.4. What can you recommend me? (adding experimental?) |
| 22:03.07 | jetscreamer | no details needed |
| 22:03.17 | jetscreamer | !backports |
| 22:03.17 | dpkg | it has been said that backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port, http://backports.org/, http://www.apt-get.org/, ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 22:03.34 | abrotman | the -l also shows it |
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| 22:03.48 | lbc | abrotman : the problem I coudln't overcome is that I wish to assign fixed nodes (/dev/sdXY) based on the hard drive controller... the only way I found to uniquely identifying a controller is through it's ID_PATH data (things like pci-0000:00:0a.0-scsi-1:0:0:0). But udev can't understand rules that use data from more than one parent device , and since ID_PATH is compounded from different levels of devices ... |
| 22:04.05 | ross` | im llloking at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Quota-3.html#ss3.3 |
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| 22:04.13 | ross` | and a step before editing fstab says |
| 22:04.19 | ross` | 3.4 Modify your system init script to check quota and turn quota on at boot time |
| 22:04.19 | ross` | Here's an example: |
| 22:04.26 | ross` | and add a script or whatever |
| 22:04.30 | ross` | where is taht file i need to edit |
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| 22:06.05 | ross` | or does quota automatically start anyway.. |
| 22:06.13 | Eulex | ross`, the init scripts are in /etc/init.d , I assume that's what they mean |
| 22:06.16 | ross` | can i skip this step |
| 22:06.25 | Eulex | !init.d |
| 22:06.25 | dpkg | somebody said init.d was where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript default". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README. Also ask me about <bootmisc><rc.local><runlevel> |
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| 22:06.38 | ross` | ahh |
| 22:06.38 | Eulex | ross`, "# Check quota and then turn quota on. " |
| 22:06.41 | ross` | well can i skip this step? does debian automatically load quota without this anyway? |
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| 22:07.30 | Eulex | ross`, 'probably'. I'm not sure. I'd check the contents of the quota package to see if it has an init script. |
| 22:07.42 | ross` | i did apt-get install quota |
| 22:07.48 | abrotman | see /usr/share/doc/quota/ |
| 22:07.51 | ross` | the guide im reading your supposed to be manually installing it |
| 22:07.54 | ross` | so i skipped that step |
| 22:07.59 | ross` | cause i did apt-get install quota |
| 22:08.07 | ross` | so i guess i can skip this step too |
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| 22:09.05 | jetscreamer | !guess |
| 22:09.05 | dpkg | guess is, like, an hypothesis based on nothing |
| 22:09.09 | jetscreamer | bah |
| 22:09.18 | jetscreamer | !assume |
| 22:09.18 | dpkg | Don't assume, just KNOW |
| 22:09.58 | Gun_Smoke | SuperBowl anyone?? NE by 7!!!!!!!! |
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| 22:10.28 | jetscreamer | oh yeah that superbowl thing is on |
| 22:11.29 | ross` | when i rebooted my system its still on checking quotas... |
| 22:11.34 | ross` | and its been like that for like 2 minutes |
| 22:11.38 | ross` | is it supposed to take this long |
| 22:11.39 | ross` | ? |
| 22:11.50 | ross` | its still goin |
| 22:11.53 | ross` | o.O |
| 22:11.53 | jetscreamer | i dunno |
| 22:11.58 | Gun_Smoke | I'm not a big football fan.. But the SB is always worth watching.. I wonder if Apple will have a big commercial this year. |
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| 22:12.09 | jetscreamer | maybe it takes longer first time |
| 22:12.11 | jetscreamer | maybe not |
| 22:12.16 | screamingbytes | all day deathwish on AMC |
| 22:12.21 | abrotman | Gun_Smoke: wrong channel ? |
| 22:12.27 | screamingbytes | deathwish 1-5 or something like that |
| 22:12.36 | jetscreamer | ooo |
| 22:12.36 | jelly-home | ross`: depends on how many files you have on the filesystems with quota on. It can take a long time. |
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| 22:13.01 | ross` | k |
| 22:13.03 | ross` | it worked |
| 22:13.04 | ross` | finally |
| 22:13.05 | ross` | :) |
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| 22:13.19 | Gun_Smoke | abrotman: no.. bit offtopic I know.. I'm watching whats going on in here. |
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| 22:13.57 | ross` | my last question is |
| 22:14.05 | ross` | adter i do edquota -u user |
| 22:14.10 | ross` | and it pops up that file with |
| 22:14.18 | ross` | Disk quotas for user ross (uid 1000): Filesystem blocks soft hard inodes soft$ /dev/hda1 16 0 0 4 0$ |
| 22:14.24 | ross` | do i then just put in the limits |
| 22:14.26 | jetscreamer | zomfg the stuporbowl is an american requirement like apple pie and electricity!! how could it be off topic??? :) |
| 22:14.26 | ross` | for soft |
| 22:14.27 | ross` | hard |
| 22:14.29 | ross` | or whatever |
| 22:14.33 | ross` | and 0 means no limit? |
| 22:14.39 | jetscreamer | !tell ross` -about paste |
| 22:14.45 | ross` | i know about paste |
| 22:14.47 | ross` | please jsut tell me |
| 22:14.50 | ross` | i need to hurry here >< |
| 22:14.58 | abrotman | STOP HITTING ENTER |
| 22:15.01 | ross` | that was 3 lines |
| 22:15.05 | jetscreamer | oh yeah that too |
| 22:15.09 | jetscreamer | !tell ross` -about enter |
| 22:15.11 | ross` | dpkg just said no more then 3 lines.. |
| 22:15.13 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 22:15.19 | ross` | STOP HAVING HIM TELL ME STUFF I KNOW!!! ITS ANNOYING |
| 22:15.31 | jetscreamer | ok i won't do it again if you don't.. :) |
| 22:15.36 | valdyn | !capslock |
| 22:15.36 | dpkg | i heard capslock is "dumpkeys | sed 's/58 = Caps_Lock/58 = Control/' | loadkeys" turns capslock into control for all vc's. MY REDHAT KEY SEEMS TO BE STUCK |
| 22:15.44 | jetscreamer | should.. dammit! |
| 22:15.56 | jetscreamer | i was gonna do the caps factoid!!! |
| 22:15.57 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 22:16.10 | ross` | anyway, can you tell me if i jsut have to set numbers for those things or what? and if it says 0 does that mean no limit? |
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| 22:17.36 | jetscreamer | probably , but i've never read it |
| 22:17.46 | jetscreamer | 0 sounds correct to me though |
| 22:17.54 | Firestarter- | is there a way to trick web pages into thinking you have IE instead of firefox? |
| 22:18.02 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 22:18.12 | jetscreamer | what's that thing called? |
| 22:18.34 | Firestarter- | I once had a plugin but can't remember the dang name of it |
| 22:18.34 | jetscreamer | Firestarter-: it's in about:config |
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| 22:18.46 | jetscreamer | you change the .... the... |
| 22:19.07 | jetscreamer | that thing that says 'mozilla/IE4.0 or something like that |
| 22:19.13 | ugah | hello. does anybody know why the 'lame' package is not on the unstable distribution? |
| 22:19.31 | jetscreamer | !tell ugah -about debian-multimedia |
| 22:19.34 | hark | !lame |
| 22:19.34 | dpkg | Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder. Debian does not distribute LAME due to patent and infrastructure issues. Binary packages are available from <debian-multimedia> or <rarewares>. Upstream sources, with build instructions for Debian at http://www.mp3dev.org/ or http://lame.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:19.56 | hark | Firestarter-: useragent |
| 22:20.02 | jetscreamer | yeah that's it |
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| 22:20.34 | jetscreamer | Firestarter-: about:config in the iceweasel addressbar |
| 22:20.37 | snaqo | humm. i think i have the debian-multimedia repository. lemme check |
| 22:20.42 | hark | the extension is useragent switcher iirc |
| 22:21.10 | Firestarter- | found the plugin user agent switcher |
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| 22:21.33 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 22:21.38 | jetscreamer | yay hark |
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| 22:22.31 | snaqo | man, forget it.. i must have forgot to add the debian-multimedia repository. its there, 'lame' ;) |
| 22:22.34 | snaqo | i guess i'm lame heh |
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| 22:24.13 | jetscreamer | halt is another word for lame |
| 22:24.19 | jetscreamer | go figure |
| 22:25.20 | jetscreamer | very old iirc |
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| 22:26.47 | jetscreamer | halt: to walk or proceed lamely |
| 22:27.17 | Eulex | same in swedish |
| 22:27.20 | Eulex | 'halta' |
| 22:27.58 | Eulex | you english borrowed a lot of words from danish a thousand years ago |
| 22:28.17 | jetscreamer | ripped of latin too iirc |
| 22:28.28 | Eulex | yes, and so did we. |
| 22:28.38 | Eulex | oh, and the french and the german, don't forget them |
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| 22:30.20 | gwiziwg | Good afternoon all. After upgrading a server from woody to sarge (I know, a bit late) I'm able to read files but not write. log.smbd shows this repeated error: Authentication for user [jeff] -> [jeff] FAILED with error NT_STATUS_WRONG_PASSWORD |
| 22:30.32 | gwiziwg | I've updated the password (smbpasswd), but not sure whether this updates the .tdb file also |
| 22:30.40 | gwiziwg | I've also reverted back to the plain smbpasswd config, with no improvement |
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| 22:33.11 | jetscreamer | gwiziwg: it 'might' be easier for you to back up your configs and install etch, if that is the end goal |
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| 22:33.25 | jetscreamer | !woody->sarge |
| 22:33.25 | dpkg | First, "apt-get install aptitude". Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" to "sarge". Then, "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade". consider installing hotplug and discover1 if you're not confident with linux hardware management. see <sarge release notes>, or serious breakage for around 30% of users according to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00006.html |
| 22:33.34 | jetscreamer | !sarge->etch |
| 22:33.34 | dpkg | sarge->etch is read the etch release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes ; the recommended upgrade procedure for sarge->etch is no longer as simple as running "aptitude dist-upgrade", please follow the prodedure in the <release notes>. Also ask me about <security> |
| 22:33.55 | jetscreamer | or, that |
| 22:34.30 | snaqo | thank you guys |
| 22:34.49 | jetscreamer | but i know nothing of smb |
| 22:35.00 | piko | Hi, I have strange bash scripting problem (this may be offtopic for debian, but still) I do: DATE=date echo $DATE gives nothing, could anyone help to explain? |
| 22:35.10 | gwiziwg | jetscreamer: I'm on my way there... everything else in the upgrade was manageable...but haven't gone to a 2.6 kernel yet so etch is a bit in the future for now |
| 22:35.20 | piko | I expected to have date in stadard format, but, nothing happened |
| 22:35.31 | nevyn | piko: try DATE=$(date) |
| 22:35.36 | jetscreamer | piko: maybe #bash or http://wooledge.org:8000/BashFAQ |
| 22:36.02 | jetscreamer | or that |
| 22:37.13 | piko | nevyn: strange, but nor this one helps, even DATE=`date` gives noting |
| 22:37.24 | nevyn | #bash then |
| 22:37.37 | piko | jetscreamer: nevyn ok, will try, thanks |
| 22:37.39 | nollidj | piko: piko try DATE=$(date) && echo $DATE |
| 22:38.28 | gwiziwg | sounds like the etch upgrade is a minefield |
| 22:38.39 | nollidj | i'm not sure on the semantic differences and such, but i suspect it has something to do with echo being a shell builtin of some sort... |
| 22:38.56 | nollidj | (or not being a shell builtin, as there is a /bin/echo but also a bash built-in |
| 22:38.59 | piko | nollidj: yes, this one works, thanks, but I do not see why as CC=... make ... usually works ok |
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| 22:39.15 | piko | gwiziwg: What is wrong with etch upgrade? |
| 22:39.37 | nollidj | piko: i'm as confused as you! i could cogitate on it a bit more, but i'm pretty sure it has to do with the builtin thing |
| 22:39.46 | gwiziwg | piko: just looking over the upgrade recommendations in release notes |
| 22:39.50 | nollidj | for example, DATE=foobar perl -e'print "$ENV{DATE} |
| 22:39.50 | nollidj | "' does print 'foobar' as expected |
| 22:41.12 | piko | nollidj: it is even stranger as DATE=$(`date`) produces error as if date returned expected value :) |
| 22:41.32 | piko | I will ask bash guys |
| 22:42.06 | nollidj | piko: i don't think it's an issue of `date` not giving you the output of the date command. rather, it has something to do with how echo is interpreting the environment |
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| 22:42.36 | screamingbytes | piko: you arn't putting those commands on the same line are you |
| 22:42.49 | screamingbytes | piko: they should be on two different lines |
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| 22:44.41 | piko | nollidj: I know |
| 22:44.52 | napo | anyone know how i can make a mount point? |
| 22:45.09 | piko | screamingbytes: I do because I know that eg. formake, CC it works |
| 22:45.21 | piko | napo: every directory can serve as mountpoint |
| 22:45.22 | Optic | napo: mkdir :) |
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| 22:45.34 | napo | alrighy |
| 22:45.37 | screamingbytes | piko: if you #!/bin/bash |
| 22:45.46 | screamingbytes | piko: DATE=`date` |
| 22:45.54 | screamingbytes | piko: echo $DATE |
| 22:46.03 | screamingbytes | piko you will get the expected result |
| 22:46.08 | gwiziwg | hmm... looks like aptitude again wants to remove exim4-daemon-heavy and replace it with exim4-daemon-light to satisfy dependencies, but the dependency list also shows exim4-daemon-heavy as satisfying those dependencies... |
| 22:46.11 | piko | screamingbytes: yes, this one is ok, my question is about one line |
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| 22:46.17 | el_isma | Hello. I'm using Debian Lenny (i386) on a laptop with an Intel Graphics media accelerator 900 and it is generally buggy. I don't have 3D acceleration and just now I got a system freeze switching between two X sessions. Any idea what might be wrong? What do I have to do to get 3D back? |
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| 22:46.52 | napo | yeah, i tried to mount my ntfs hdd1 but it said i needed a mount point :/ |
| 22:47.02 | piko | screamingbytes: you know sometimes you need to use it CC=/usr/bin/gcc-2.95 make |
| 22:47.05 | nevyn | el_isma: what video driver are you using? |
| 22:47.10 | gwiziwg | napo: man mount? |
| 22:47.23 | el_isma | nevyn: "intel" |
| 22:47.25 | jelly-home | napo: well, mount was right. |
| 22:47.31 | napo | gwiziwg: manual mount? YES |
| 22:47.34 | napo | err yes |
| 22:47.44 | nevyn | el_isma: what's your log file say? |
| 22:48.05 | gwiziwg | napo: mount <device> <mount point> <flags and options> |
| 22:48.33 | el_isma | nevyn: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? about what? the driver? |
| 22:48.49 | gwiziwg | napo: device is the partition name |
| 22:48.51 | nevyn | el_isma: ok from an x session run glxinfo|grep irect |
| 22:49.01 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 22:49.03 | napo | ok |
| 22:49.12 | el_isma | nevyn: no direct rendering |
| 22:49.39 | napo | ./dev/hdd1? |
| 22:50.02 | nevyn | el_isma: the xorg.0.log will say why ... you may need to modify your xorg.conf to tell it to use more ram or something |
| 22:50.09 | screamingbytes | piko: then why don't you just echo `date` if it must be on one line? im not understanding why it must be on one line in your script |
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| 22:50.37 | gwiziwg | napo: if I recall correctly, that would be IDE drive #4 (slave on channel 2), correct? |
| 22:50.58 | gwiziwg | well, slave is probably a misnomer, but you get the idea |
| 22:51.06 | napo | gwizwg: i don't know |
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| 22:51.36 | napo | i just installed debian for the first time. |
| 22:51.37 | napo | :P |
| 22:52.04 | gwiziwg | napo: which partition of which drive do you want to mount? |
| 22:52.13 | Tramp | piko: "$foo" requests a parameter expansion. This is performed before the commandline is further digested (i.e. before the assignment at the beginning of your simple command) |
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| 22:52.48 | napo | gwizwg: my slave drive, it's ntfs. |
| 22:53.00 | jetscreamer | !ntfsro |
| 22:53.00 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 22:53.03 | jetscreamer | !ntfsrw |
| 22:53.03 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs-3g is a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. http://www.ntfs-3g.org/. Available in Lenny, but not for Etch except as a backport: see the package page at http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g, backport instructions at http://www.backports.org/ or ask me about <bpo>. not as stable as they claim. |
| 22:53.50 | jetscreamer | sounds like /dev/hdd1 or /dev/sdd1 to me btw |
| 22:53.53 | jetscreamer | or so |
| 22:54.09 | gwiziwg | or /dev/hdb1 or /dev/sdb1? |
| 22:54.22 | napo | how can i tell? |
| 22:54.42 | napo | i was here earlier, isn't there a cmd to type in terminal to find out? |
| 22:54.51 | themill | fdisk -l will list all partitions on all known disks |
| 22:55.29 | napo | cool |
| 22:55.34 | el_isma | nevyn: any way to assign more ram to the device? I found the problem is that I had set the virtual size way to big (I was using it to support multiple monitors with xrandr), but I'd like to keep that ability and 3D! |
| 22:55.42 | \amethyst | napo: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id |
| 22:56.00 | piko | Tramp: I supposed you mean `foo` |
| 22:56.06 | nevyn | ok |
| 22:56.26 | nevyn | el_isma: the MAXIMUM virtual size while continuing to have DRI is 2048x2048 |
| 22:56.31 | nevyn | it's as big as the chip goes. |
| 22:56.41 | themill | piko: no, Tramp meant exactly that. |
| 22:56.42 | napo | interesting |
| 22:56.43 | gwiziwg | themill... that doesn't work here |
| 22:56.45 | Tramp | piko: no. I refer to "foo=bar echo $foo" |
| 22:56.57 | piko | Tramp: oh, ok |
| 22:57.02 | nevyn | el_isma: and yes this is badly documented |
| 22:57.14 | Tramp | piko: Here the expansion (i.e. lookup of $foo) is done mostly before anything else |
| 22:57.20 | nevyn | some new chips may go as high as 4096x4096 |
| 22:57.26 | nollidj | Tramp: thanks |
| 22:57.30 | nollidj | i was wondering, too |
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| 22:57.47 | el_isma | nevyn: Argh... I've got widescreen and got it set to 2304 (thats like my widescreen+1024)... Is this a hardware limit or a driver issue? |
| 22:57.52 | Tramp | nollidj: np. Processing-order of bash is, aeh, complicated 8) |
| 22:57.59 | piko | BTW, I asked on #bash and was told to do DATE=`date` *;* echo $DATE which acts as export (so it is kept in environment) |
| 22:58.07 | piko | s/asked/told/ |
| 22:58.26 | nollidj | yes... i tried to find a quick reference for operator preference and got nuthin' |
| 22:59.58 | Tramp | piko: IMHO they should have told you to do $(date), not backquotes. Backquotes are evil. |
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| 23:00.43 | techouse | guys, i have a big problem; debian won't start up, not even in single user mode |
| 23:00.44 | techouse | http://pastebin.com/m38c9a035 |
| 23:00.53 | techouse | this is what i get and then it stops |
| 23:01.04 | techouse | i waited 15 min...nothing :P |
| 23:01.24 | piko | techouse: you use suspend or something...? |
| 23:01.34 | napo | well i should have mounted it in the install huh? |
| 23:01.37 | techouse | not to my knowledge |
| 23:02.17 | piko | techouse: what is your grub record like? You can read it after pressing e |
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| 23:02.20 | techouse | piko: i just upgraded lenny and installed the latest sid nvidia driver and made the nvidia-kernel |
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| 23:02.30 | techouse | grub record? hmm |
| 23:02.40 | techouse | where is it...maybe i can get through it with windows |
| 23:03.00 | amphi | techouse: that way madness lies ;) |
| 23:03.12 | nollidj | techouse: when you are booting, you get a list of OSes to start, right? |
| 23:03.19 | techouse | yep |
| 23:03.28 | techouse | brb....gotta run to the WC |
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| 23:03.29 | piko | after having grub blue screen, navigate to your kernel line and press e |
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| 23:03.41 | techouse | in a sec |
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| 23:06.46 | xuser | In a laptop, how can i make X only use the external monitor? |
| 23:07.36 | nollidj | xuser: two questions: what is your video card, how is the external monitor connected? |
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| 23:09.16 | themill | !tell BoobL about rootirc |
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| 23:11.31 | BobboL | f |
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| 23:11.56 | techouse | piko: restarting now |
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| 23:13.20 | xuser | nollidj: its an ati |
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| 23:15.33 | amphi | xuser: radeontool perhaps? |
| 23:15.37 | nollidj | xuser: what i have done with my video card (intel 950) is to have two serverlayout sections in my xorg.conf, one for when the laptop is plugged into an external monitor and one for when it isn't. these layouts use two different screens, which themselves define different monitor devices as being on or off |
| 23:15.54 | nollidj | xuser: something ati-specific is probably more up your alley, but you could probably always revert to doing what i have to |
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| 23:19.20 | xuser | amphi: I'll check it out |
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| 23:20.35 | techouse | piko: http://pastebin.com/d2e08e861 |
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| 23:21.00 | techouse | i get this when pressing e in grub |
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| 23:25.24 | techouse | http://www.thekip.nl/2007/12/18/kinit-no-resume-image-fixed/ |
| 23:25.26 | techouse | ? |
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| 23:25.32 | colera | !java |
| 23:25.32 | dpkg | i guess java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun partially released its Java implementation under the GPL on 2006-11-13. There are other implementations available in Debian such as 'free-java-sdk' for use with applications like Eclipse. The Sun JRE/JDK is in non-free. Also, ask about <install java>. |
| 23:25.49 | abrotman | colera: msg the bot |
| 23:26.00 | colera | abrotman: i know i'm sorry |
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| 23:27.08 | ross` | someone hacked my debian server with a normal shell account in 2 minutes and ruined my server |
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| 23:27.14 | ross` | is debian really that patheticc? |
| 23:27.38 | mavhc | yes |
| 23:27.40 | nevyn | yep. |
| 23:27.44 | ross` | -_- |
| 23:27.51 | ross` | why isnt it mroe secure |
| 23:27.54 | ross` | so peopel can't hack it |
| 23:27.55 | techouse | ross: set up iptables to allow only your pc access through ssh |
| 23:27.57 | ross` | i thought that was the point |
| 23:27.59 | ross` | if your not root.. |
| 23:28.22 | nevyn | any system is only as secure as the sysadmin. |
| 23:28.29 | RA3OR | true |
| 23:28.34 | abrotman | ross`: cracked it how? |
| 23:28.46 | mavhc | techouse: pfft that's easy to hack with cosmic rays and butterflies |
| 23:28.55 | nevyn | even with a "perfect" system a incompetent or even just ignorant sysadmin can make it very very insecure. |
| 23:28.56 | techouse | well...yeah |
| 23:29.07 | techouse | pico: http://pastebin.com/m2e793cfb <-- my fstab |
| 23:29.44 | techouse | errors=remount-ro ?! |
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| 23:29.57 | abrotman | Kevin`: who is ross` ? |
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| 23:30.24 | RA3OR | who can crack a sarge? |
| 23:30.26 | SixT6 | He's the thin guy in Friends |
| 23:30.32 | abrotman | not funny |
| 23:31.24 | RA3OR | thats deb 3.x |
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| 23:31.51 | techouse | jesus...can't anyone help me? i'm in real trouble being stuck with windows ::P |
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| 23:33.23 | RA3OR | format windows |
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| 23:33.42 | techouse | no...debian won't start up |
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| 23:34.00 | techouse | pastebin.com/m38c9a035 |
| 23:34.04 | techouse | brb |
| 23:36.26 | jetscreamer | tell him to use UUID= |
| 23:36.26 | screamingbytes | with ross` configuring it im sure any script kiddie can crack a public server |
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| 23:36.58 | jetscreamer | and tell him yeah, errors=remount |
| 23:37.26 | screamingbytes | im actually amazed that he was suprised it was hacked |
| 23:38.07 | themill | I'm amazed he noticed.... which probably makes him smell of troll. |
| 23:38.48 | screamingbytes | he was probably told it was hacked by logfile output, and someone saying that means you were hacked |
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| 23:39.40 | abrotman | themill: you mean because there's another user in here from the same hostmask ? |
| 23:39.42 | screamingbytes | i feel for him, but he needs to stop being an impatient windows user and learn debian/linux before setting up a public server. at a minimum stop announcing its a public server and posting all of its data |
| 23:40.38 | Tramp | Regarding the previous exchange, I'd not be surprised if he "ruined" his server himself and just assumes it was cracked |
| 23:40.39 | themill | abrotman: yep. and it would seem that (patience * IQ) < shoe size |
| 23:40.49 | piko | screamingbytes: tell us something more ... |
| 23:41.01 | screamingbytes | i like cheeseburgers |
| 23:41.09 | screamingbytes | and french fries |
| 23:41.30 | piko | :) |
| 23:41.57 | piko | screamingbytes: no, I mean ross' way of being admin |
| 23:42.12 | abrotman | uh |
| 23:42.19 | screamingbytes | nah |
| 23:42.39 | screamingbytes | piko: im not ripping on him behind his back, check your logs i told him while he was on directly |
| 23:42.45 | abrotman | he's still here |
| 23:43.37 | screamingbytes | said he logged off last i saw, doesn't matter either way |
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| 23:43.55 | screamingbytes | i just got back to my keyboard |
| 23:44.00 | abrotman | screamingbytes: there is someone here from the same host |
| 23:44.27 | screamingbytes | is kewl with me, as i said, i said it to him directly and i will again if he asks |
| 23:44.27 | themill | abrotman: it's the l33t haxor that got him |
| 23:44.37 | abrotman | yeah |
| 23:45.04 | screamingbytes | abrotman: your here enough to know i don't talk smack behind ppl's backs |
| 23:45.10 | abrotman | you're |
| 23:45.18 | screamingbytes | lol |
| 23:45.20 | screamingbytes | kk |
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| 23:45.34 | screamingbytes | abrotman: you're here enough to know i don't talk smack behind ppl's backs |
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| 23:47.14 | screamingbytes | abrotman: are you an english professor? |
| 23:47.49 | themill | screamingbytes: you know you're in trouble when an American is correcting your English... :) |
| 23:48.10 | screamingbytes | abrotman: im just curious because of all of you're passion for spelling? |
| 23:48.19 | screamingbytes | s/?/. |
| 23:49.04 | screamingbytes | i just use a lot of homemade shorthand and abrotman catches me on it all the time |
| 23:49.29 | peppe1 | screamingbytes: "who spells bad, thinks bad" |
| 23:49.33 | abrotman | screamingbytes: that's not spelling. that's stupidity :) |
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| 23:50.13 | mavhc | I heard a theory that if we all used the same words to mean the same things we could be understood by each other |
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| 23:50.53 | screamingbytes | well i heard if do less typing then there's less of a chance of me getting carpal tunnel |
| 23:51.09 | Bushmills | mavhc: think of poor babelfish. |
| 23:51.24 | screamingbytes | u = you, your = you're, i = SHIFT i, etc... |
| 23:51.27 | techouse | nothing helps :P |
| 23:51.31 | Bushmills | having cause more wars than anything else because suddenly people understood each other |
| 23:51.34 | Bushmills | caused |
| 23:51.35 | techouse | :( |
| 23:51.49 | techouse | i don't wanna reinstall debian cause of this :P |
| 23:51.51 | jetscreamer | techouse: use UUID= |
| 23:51.52 | mavhc | screamingbytes: you just spent longer explaining all this than you've saved in a month |
| 23:52.01 | techouse | jetscreamer: how? |
| 23:52.02 | jetscreamer | techouse: what is your exact error? |
| 23:52.06 | jetscreamer | in fstab |
| 23:52.09 | mavhc | write a program to expand your abbr. client side |
| 23:52.14 | screamingbytes | mavhc: i doubt that, but point taken |
| 23:52.26 | techouse | pastebin.com/d2e08e861 |
| 23:52.33 | jetscreamer | UUID=e56ffbde-0944-4e92-bc2d-6d89d24e544a / jfs defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 23:52.36 | jetscreamer | also in menu.lst |
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| 23:53.14 | screamingbytes | either way, I respect abrotman's approach to proper spelling and language |
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| 23:53.31 | jetscreamer | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24.2 root=UUID=e56ffbde-0944-4e92-bc2d-6d89d24e544a ro vga=0x0318 |
| 23:53.49 | jetscreamer | techouse: your uuid will of course be different |
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| 23:53.58 | jetscreamer | techouse: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 23:54.08 | jetscreamer | techouse: but what is the error, what is the problem? |
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| 23:54.42 | jetscreamer | i wasn't paying attention when you stated it |
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| 23:55.07 | jetscreamer | [17.36.52] <techouse> no...debian won't start up <--doesn't do much for me |
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| 23:55.45 | techouse | damn irc :P |
| 23:55.50 | jetscreamer | resume: Could not read the image |
| 23:55.50 | techouse | what was that again? |
| 23:55.57 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 23:55.57 | lazylizard | Hello everybody. Could anyone please tell me how to make nice system tray icon for Opera? I'm in fresh "plain" Xfce4 installation so far. Are there common methods for making system tray icons anti-aliased? |
| 23:55.59 | techouse | yes |
| 23:56.10 | jetscreamer | techouse: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 23:56.24 | jetscreamer | techouse: nm |
| 23:56.28 | techouse | jetscreamer: i'm in windows, linux doesn't load |
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| 23:57.00 | jetscreamer | shouldn't there be a noresume directive? hmm |
| 23:57.02 | themill | techouse: have you tried noresume as a kernel argument? |
| 23:57.09 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 23:57.10 | themill | *snap* |
| 23:57.15 | abrotman | you waht? |
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| 23:57.28 | techouse | themill: at boot i enter some options? |
| 23:57.33 | techouse | how? |
| 23:57.34 | jetscreamer | techouse: hit e to edit .. yeah |
| 23:57.46 | techouse | edit and type what? |
| 23:58.00 | jetscreamer | e to edit, highlight the line, hit e again, then add noresume at the end of the kernel line |
| 23:58.08 | techouse | aha |
| 23:58.08 | techouse | ok |
| 23:58.20 | jetscreamer | then b to boot |
| 23:58.24 | techouse | ok |
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| 23:58.31 | techouse | anything else before i restart? |
| 23:58.39 | techouse | it's quite annoying :P |
| 23:59.02 | techouse | ok...restarting |
| 23:59.06 | jetscreamer | you want to be sure you're loading the correct / |
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