| 00:00.09 | andrew[andrboot] | @ dkr thats a bunch. ill try. |
| 00:00.16 | hon | andrew[andrboot]: aptitude reinstall apache2 might help you |
| 00:00.58 | eevkaya | burdayım |
| 00:01.01 | hon | hardcorelinux: did you use apt-get to install them or aptitude? |
| 00:01.12 | themill | andrew[andrboot]: if you manually removed the config files and the apache2 package, then you'll need to reinstall both the apache2 package and probably reinstall it with the confmiss options to get back missing config files. |
| 00:01.12 | irfaN | eevkaya... |
| 00:01.15 | mernil | Im using slackware, but nothing wrong with debian. I just dont like the installer. |
| 00:01.27 | dkr | hardcorelinux: if you aptitude remove xfce the no longer unused dependencies should also be removed |
| 00:01.33 | hardcorelinux | apt-get |
| 00:01.35 | themill | mernil: Do you not like the installer or not like apt? |
| 00:01.38 | dkr | er,no longer used |
| 00:01.39 | andrew[andrboot] | @ themill there was no configs to begin with.. and when i remove/ reinstall it doesn't get them. |
| 00:01.45 | mernil | themill: it's the same |
| 00:01.49 | hardcorelinux | hon: apt-get |
| 00:01.52 | andrew[andrboot] | @ themill option? which option |
| 00:01.53 | themill | mernil: no it's not |
| 00:01.59 | mernil | yes it is |
| 00:02.01 | themill | !tell andrew[andrboot] about confmiss |
| 00:02.03 | path_ | mernil, have you consider you're a troll? |
| 00:02.07 | themill | mernil: go away |
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| 00:02.14 | andrew[andrboot] | ty |
| 00:02.40 | hon | hardcorelinux: you should use aptitude from now on. use aptitude purge xfce to remove that. |
| 00:02.44 | themill | andrew[andrboot]: no worries. have fun ;) |
| 00:02.45 | mernil | not really, but okay. I dont like apt. |
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| 00:03.02 | path_ | ok, I dont like hamburgers |
| 00:03.08 | andrew[andrboot] | @ themill.. and if it doesnt work :p |
| 00:03.08 | path_ | but so what? :) |
| 00:03.12 | path_ | who cares |
| 00:03.15 | mernil | i like burgers :-P |
| 00:03.31 | path_ | if you feel lonely get a slut |
| 00:03.33 | dkr | what do you have against people from Hamburg? |
| 00:03.38 | themill | mernil: well we like it. So go please either go back to #slackware or ask a technical question about debian. |
| 00:03.46 | path_ | hahah funny dkr |
| 00:03.59 | mernil | themill: why so hostile? |
| 00:04.15 | themill | andrew[andrboot]: it should... you may need to reinstall both the apache2 and apache2.2-common packages that way. |
| 00:04.17 | hon | mernil: are you bored? |
| 00:04.20 | mernil | Im just here to make friends with linux guys |
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| 00:04.31 | hon | see ;) |
| 00:04.31 | mernil | hon: no, im hungry |
| 00:04.32 | dkr | this isn't a social channel |
| 00:04.57 | andrew[andrboot] | ARGH |
| 00:04.59 | path_ | you see this people need attention and they usually get it |
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| 00:05.09 | andrew[andrboot] | themill and if i still have no /etc/apache2 dir? |
| 00:05.12 | mernil | debian shold be more social i think! |
| 00:05.14 | andrew[andrboot] | doens't make sense to me. |
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| 00:05.31 | hon | mernil: people use this channel for technical questions. |
| 00:05.31 | themill | mernil: because we all have better things to do than entertain trolls who (a) aren't prepared to read background material, (b) don't want to ask technical questions and (c) should know better. |
| 00:05.36 | mernil | That would attract more older people i think. |
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| 00:05.47 | themill | mernil: if you want to be social, please join #debian-offtopic |
| 00:05.59 | dondelelcaro | mernil: please use the next 10 minutes to formulate your Debian related question. |
| 00:06.07 | dondelelcaro | mernil: or continue your discussion in #debian-offtopic. |
| 00:06.12 | hardcorelinux | mernil: what do you use |
| 00:06.22 | hon | hardcorelinux: bah! |
| 00:06.48 | andrew[andrboot] | @ themill i take it.. now would be time to do a reinstall ? |
| 00:06.57 | andrew[andrboot] | because my /etc/apache dir is still there.. |
| 00:07.01 | hardcorelinux | hon: if only got rid of the metapackage |
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| 00:07.26 | themill | andrew[andrboot]: you shouldn't need to reinstall anything other than the apache2 packages using the command given to you by dpkg in the confmiss factoid. |
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| 00:07.30 | hardcorelinux | hon: it only got rid of the metapackage |
| 00:07.35 | andrew[andrboot] | hmm. |
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| 00:08.36 | hon | hardcorelinux: I guess you are pretty much on your own. consult others here about debfoster. I am not sure if it is deprecated |
| 00:08.36 | andrew[andrboot] | yay @ themill |
| 00:08.59 | themill | andrew[andrboot]: all worked then? |
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| 00:09.16 | mythomaniac | anyone here successfully get truecrypt compiled on debian etch? |
| 00:09.31 | wols | mythomaniac: ask a sensible question |
| 00:09.32 | mythomaniac | err truecrypt 5.0 that is? |
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| 00:09.46 | mythomaniac | wols ? |
| 00:09.49 | themill | dondelelcaro: thanks :) |
| 00:10.10 | wols | mythomaniac: ask a question someone can answer and actually helps you |
| 00:10.12 | hardcorelinux | I hate debian |
| 00:10.15 | wols | !tell mythomaniac about anyone |
| 00:10.30 | wols | hardcorelinux: we hate it too. do you have a technical question? |
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| 00:11.28 | hon | reading /usr/share/doc/{bootp,pxe} made me a bit confused. what is the recommended way of a network-based debian installation? |
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| 00:11.52 | andrew[andrboot] | @ themill well.. i don't have a httpd.conf file |
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| 00:11.56 | wols | hon: ig should havb a chapter |
| 00:12.07 | hon | ig? |
| 00:12.09 | wols | andrew[andrboot]: you should, even if it's empty |
| 00:12.11 | wols | !ig |
| 00:12.11 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 00:12.12 | dondelelcaro | hon: any way that works with your computer is the recommended way |
| 00:12.19 | andrew[andrboot] | @ wols nothing @ all. |
| 00:12.31 | dondelelcaro | hon: PXE is fairly modern, but bootp works for older things. |
| 00:12.32 | themill | andrew[andrboot]: debian doesn't use httpd.conf it uses apache2.conf |
| 00:12.46 | andrew[andrboot] | well themill it still complaings how there is no httpd.conf |
| 00:13.06 | wols | then create one. man touch |
| 00:13.32 | hon | dondelelcaro: do I need the PXE package? there was something odd written in its documentation |
| 00:14.08 | dondelelcaro | hon: if you're going to pxe boot, yes; you need that or a work-a-like. |
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| 00:14.56 | mythomaniac | wols thanks, but the real question is this when compiling truecrypt 5.0 an error message happens that states /usr/lib/lb option --hash <something> invalid and errors out of the compile process. I have tracked down other issues of like that and they point to a problem in the linker of binutils. |
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| 00:16.22 | wols | !tell mythomaniac about errors |
| 00:16.23 | WrecknRoll | I am looking to install compiz on debian etch and have successfully gotten my nvidia drivers and all. This is the error I can't get around: Info: No sexy-python package found, don't worry it's optional. |
| 00:16.23 | WrecknRoll | PyGtk 2.10.0 or later required |
| 00:16.26 | hon | dondelelcaro: 2. pxe may not be necessary for a PXE boot. Ironically, some PXE |
| 00:16.27 | hon | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.30 | hon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:16.35 | hon | sorry. |
| 00:16.38 | wols | note the little word "exact" |
| 00:16.40 | mythomaniac | wols lol give me a sec |
| 00:16.59 | dondelelcaro | hon: sure, for some implementations you may not need it, but you probably want it anyway. |
| 00:17.02 | wols | !info pygtk etch |
| 00:17.10 | mythomaniac | wols now the question is this: is it bunutils or truecypt? |
| 00:17.19 | WrecknRoll | I have reinstalled compiz, ccsm, and python-gtk2 multiple times in multiple orders. Shoudl I compile a different version of python-gtk2 from source ? |
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| 00:17.34 | WrecknRoll | Can't think of why that would help, but . . |
| 00:17.34 | amphi | WrecknRoll: why? are you on etch? |
| 00:17.36 | wols | !info python-gtk2 etch |
| 00:17.40 | WrecknRoll | amphi -yes |
| 00:17.40 | dpkg | python-gtk2: (Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set), section python, is optional. Version: 2.8.6-8 (etch), Packaged size: 660 kB, Installed size: 2268 kB |
| 00:17.50 | WrecknRoll | That's the version I have installed. |
| 00:17.54 | wols | see this? do a backport |
| 00:17.58 | amphi | WrecknRoll: the pygtk on etch is too old |
| 00:18.04 | wols | 2.8.6 <= 2.10 |
| 00:18.12 | WrecknRoll | oh, yeh, duh |
| 00:18.16 | wols | info python-gtk2 lenny |
| 00:18.23 | hon | dondelelcaro: so, is it better that I try to see if it installs without, and then install pxe if it doesn't? |
| 00:18.24 | WrecknRoll | sure can download a newer source, somewhere ? |
| 00:18.30 | amphi | wols: lenny's is fine |
| 00:18.41 | wols | !tell WrecknRoll about simple sid backport |
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| 00:18.55 | wols | you don't have to use sid sources but rather, uise lenny's. it applies the same way |
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| 00:19.23 | amphi | lenny: Version: 2.12.1-1 |
| 00:19.29 | WrecknRoll | find the lenny source, add it sources.list, apt-get intall python-gtk2 ? |
| 00:19.44 | hon | do you have any recommendation for file-system partition on servers? (should I use a single partition? should use LVM?, etc.) |
| 00:19.47 | WrecknRoll | follow the instructions above |
| 00:19.50 | WrecknRoll | that makes more sense |
| 00:20.03 | wols | hon: first check if a backport of python-gtk2 exists |
| 00:20.12 | wols | you probably also need to backport gtk2 itself |
| 00:20.50 | hon | me?! |
| 00:21.15 | wols | yes you |
| 00:21.28 | wols | oops. not you. |
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| 00:21.51 | dondelelcaro | hon: up to you |
| 00:22.09 | hon | dondelelcaro: I am asking for advice :) |
| 00:22.10 | dondelelcaro | hon: It really depends how many different machines you're configuring. |
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| 00:22.38 | dondelelcaro | hon: my advice is that it doesn't matter; I'd personally set it up. |
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| 00:23.06 | hon | they are about the same. 10-20 servers of two almost similar types. |
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| 00:23.49 | dondelelcaro | hon: it's really a question of the network cards, actually |
| 00:24.51 | WrecknRoll | E: Build-dependencies for python-gtk2 could not be satisfied. |
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| 00:31.43 | amphi | WrecknRoll: perhaps you should just upgrade to testing if you want to use compiz-fusion; or live without ccsm, and use gconf-editor to configure the thing |
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| 00:33.54 | hon | I couldn't find "torque" in debian. (Seems like they have a bogus license). What job-scheduler do you recommend for a few servers? |
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| 00:34.16 | hon | is slurm the way to go? |
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| 00:35.32 | WrecknRoll | amphi - prolly a good idea |
| 00:35.48 | WrecknRoll | can't seem to get window borders, is all |
| 00:36.26 | themill | hon: there are a couple of threads on the debian-science mailing list about job schedulers in (and out of) debian that might help you. |
| 00:36.42 | hon | themill: thanks a lot. |
| 00:37.25 | Nyle | here we go |
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| 00:37.51 | Nyle | 1 more box to my addition. my 2nd AMD64 box about to be installed.. downloading amd64 netboot lenny |
| 00:37.54 | WrecknRoll | The testing most likely has that newer version of pygtk ? |
| 00:38.37 | wols | not likely. certain |
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| 00:38.48 | WrecknRoll | well , good |
| 00:39.26 | WrecknRoll | and if not, just use ubuntu gutsy again |
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| 00:43.04 | dvs | !moo |
| 00:43.05 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 00:45.34 | mythomaniac | wols the error message is this, while compiling truecrypt 5.0, /usr/bin/ld: unrecognized option '--hash-style=sysv' /usr/bin/ld: use the --help option for usage information collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [truecrypt] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 00:45.42 | amphi | WrecknRoll: try starting a decorator, if compiz is running |
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| 00:47.12 | hon | dvs: how could I get more moo's (there was something like -vvv, I vaguely remember) |
| 00:47.23 | dvs | dunno |
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| 00:47.45 | Nyle | well I am too lazy to install debian right now |
| 00:47.46 | Nyle | :( |
| 00:48.07 | Nyle | mostly because when I try to download debian, I get kicked off irc becuase of lag |
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| 00:49.51 | Nyle | really |
| 00:50.02 | liable | hon: thats for aptitude |
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| 00:50.23 | hon | can someone kick Nyle out of the internets, so that he can freely install debian :D |
| 00:50.26 | hon | liable: thanks |
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| 00:50.33 | Nyle | Bolt Thrower - Mercenary - No Guts No Glory |
| 00:50.55 | Nyle | hon: hehe |
| 00:50.56 | bolt | O.o |
| 00:51.04 | Nyle | hon: I have a very slow internet here, in my entire building |
| 00:51.22 | bolt | you own a building and you can't afford good internet? |
| 00:51.30 | Nyle | I don't think anyone in my building has internet faster than amazingly crappy 512kbit or slower dsl |
| 00:51.36 | hon | can someone please kick Nyle's entire building out of the internets then? |
| 00:51.53 | Nyle | 1) I don't own it, I live in it |
| 00:52.01 | Azar | heh if I want to buy Debian CD from 0-bits it comes "bundled" with Ubuntu CDs.. |
| 00:52.12 | Nyle | 2) even if I did own it, and were rich, I still would be only buying what is available |
| 00:52.30 | Nyle | if nothing but crap is available, how do you not expect me to buy it |
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| 00:52.36 | Nyle | thats all we got |
| 00:52.42 | Nyle | but then again, I don't pay for internets |
| 00:52.42 | dvs | no cable? |
| 00:52.51 | Nyle | I hack wep and get by for free |
| 00:53.01 | dvs | oh, if you're not paying then don't complain! ;-) |
| 00:53.06 | Nyle | so i know no one in my bilding is rich enough to afford better ineternet |
| 00:53.19 | Nyle | even IF we had better ineternet |
| 00:53.23 | Nyle | Azar: hahaha |
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| 00:54.45 | Azar | 1st debian site still offers Sarge as the stable Debian version |
| 00:54.56 | Nyle | Azar: ? |
| 00:55.01 | techouse | is there any way to view which packages I installed today? |
| 00:55.15 | techouse | like some timestamp? |
| 00:55.16 | dondelelcaro | techouse: /var/log/dpkg.log et al. |
| 00:55.18 | Azar | Nyle: trying to order Debian Etch in CD... don't have a DVD capability |
| 00:55.19 | liable | techouse: your aptitude or dpkg log |
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| 00:55.30 | cleo | i want to install synaptc driver for mouse on dell d400 |
| 00:55.34 | Nyle | techouse: aptitude keeps a log too, I don't know about timestamped |
| 00:55.37 | dondelelcaro | techouse: or if you don't have such a log, look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |
| 00:55.48 | Azar | Nyle: http://www.1stdebian.com/ |
| 00:55.52 | cleo | i want to install synaptc driver for mouse on dell d400 |
| 00:56.01 | Nyle | Azar: you know you can guy a dvd drive for like 25$ or less now |
| 00:56.06 | dondelelcaro | cleo: odds are if you've got X installed, it's already there. |
| 00:56.11 | Nyle | Azar: hell, I'll send you one if you pay shipping |
| 00:56.19 | Azar | Nyle: no time, no mood to upgrade the box... |
| 00:56.24 | themill | !tell cleo about synaptics |
| 00:56.35 | dondelelcaro | cleo: if you've done something weird, then install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics |
| 00:56.36 | Nyle | upgrade, dude it takes like 2 minutes to install a dvd drive |
| 00:56.39 | Azar | Nyle: I was thinking to ask but I was shy.... |
| 00:56.42 | cleo | but why my touch pad don't worck very good |
| 00:57.02 | Nyle | Nyle: ask what? shy? dude I'm not gonna marry you, I just think you should move into the 21st century ;) |
| 00:57.07 | Nyle | get with the times yo |
| 00:57.15 | Azar | Nyle: I am a caveman, I rarely get out "shopping" just out to work and back in the cave |
| 00:57.40 | dondelelcaro | cleo: probably because you haven't configured it to suit you; you can use whatever synaptics configuration method is appropriate for your WM of choice. |
| 00:58.03 | Nyle | oh, I got it |
| 00:58.03 | Azar | Nyle: another retarded site: http://debian.abexia.com/etch.html |
| 00:58.07 | Azar | etch-testing eh |
| 00:58.10 | cleo | ok |
| 00:58.16 | cleo | i try now |
| 00:58.17 | Nyle | I can still be online and install debian without getting effed |
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| 00:59.06 | Nyle | boot ubuntu live cd on this virgin box, ssh to it, tell my router to only give 25% bandwidth to that pc, then debootstrap over ssh and etc. etc. |
| 00:59.09 | Nyle | that way I can stay online, and still install debian |
| 00:59.16 | Nyle | yay im smart yay |
| 00:59.32 | Azar | well heck I could just simply dist-upgrade, I was just curious to see the installer |
| 00:59.48 | Azar | well I guess I will wait for lenny when it comes up |
| 01:00.07 | Nyle | I'm looking at the retarded site |
| 01:00.12 | bolt | WABAM! |
| 01:00.23 | Azar | Nyle: I guess the guys (webmasters) abandoned it |
| 01:00.34 | Nyle | Testing Release "Etch" |
| 01:00.35 | Nyle | (20 CDs) |
| 01:00.37 | Nyle | $54.99 |
| 01:00.46 | Nyle | dude... thats too friggin much |
| 01:01.03 | Azar | yeah, and for testing, you figure |
| 01:01.11 | Nyle | you could get a dvd drive for 25$ and get an etch dvd set for 15$ |
| 01:01.22 | cleo | i want to corrige my soources.list |
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| 01:01.30 | Nyle | and that would STILL be cheaper |
| 01:01.51 | Azar | I could even say downloaded and burn it if I would be skilled |
| 01:01.57 | DeFi | hi hi |
| 01:02.09 | Nyle | Azar: is english your first language? |
| 01:02.14 | Nyle | DeFi: hi |
| 01:02.21 | Azar | Nyle: no, I took my driver licence in spanish |
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| 01:02.33 | Nyle | Azar: ahhh, me too buddy, but i took in english |
| 01:02.58 | Nyle | cleo: what do you mean? |
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| 01:03.08 | Nyle | cleo: did you mess it up and you need to 'correct' it? |
| 01:03.16 | cleo | yes |
| 01:03.19 | Nyle | !tell cleo -about sources.list |
| 01:03.26 | cleo | i want a ideal source.list |
| 01:03.31 | Nyle | cleo: also take a look at /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 01:03.37 | Nyle | cleo: ideal? |
| 01:03.45 | Nyle | cleo: you can construct one using apt-spy |
| 01:04.29 | cleo | ok |
| 01:04.38 | Nyle | !info apt-spy |
| 01:04.41 | dpkg | apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-18 (sid), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 132 kB |
| 01:04.57 | cleo | debian:/home/cleo# apt-spy |
| 01:05.02 | Azar | Nyle, psst , hey I like this site: scroll down and read under Ordering section: http://www.aboutdebian.com/order.htm |
| 01:05.08 | Nyle | cleo: read the manpage of it, man apt-spy |
| 01:05.10 | cleo | debian:/home/cleo# apt-spy |
| 01:05.12 | cleo | bash: apt-spy: command not found |
| 01:05.28 | Azar | cleo: install it: aptitude install <nameofpackage> |
| 01:05.37 | Nyle | cleo: aptitude install apt-spy |
| 01:05.50 | Azar | Nyle: reat that :) |
| 01:05.54 | Nyle | reat? |
| 01:05.55 | Nyle | ok |
| 01:05.57 | Azar | read* |
| 01:05.57 | Nyle | I'll reat it |
| 01:06.00 | Nyle | no |
| 01:06.04 | Azar | yes |
| 01:06.05 | Nyle | now I'm gonan reat it |
| 01:06.15 | Azar | funkass |
| 01:06.19 | Nyle | f you, im reatin'! |
| 01:06.20 | cleo | ok now |
| 01:06.21 | Nyle | heh |
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| 01:06.31 | cleo | thanks |
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| 01:06.37 | Nyle | cleo: not you |
| 01:06.48 | Nyle | cleo: so you have to read how to use apt-spy before you can use it |
| 01:07.01 | Gun_Smoke | I can't seem to add a user to kdm? I know the user has been created but they do not show up. I'm looking in the Login Manager now. It doesn't list the user.? |
| 01:07.09 | Nyle | cleo: so type man apt-spy to read the manpage, you can scan debian mirrors by geographical locations |
| 01:07.19 | Nyle | cleo: then it will write a sources.list based on the fastest servers |
| 01:07.32 | n3kl | Oi! Where is the kernel-headers-`uname -r` package in i686? |
| 01:07.34 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: you don't add users like that |
| 01:07.42 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: you need to read the manpage of adduser |
| 01:07.51 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: man adduser, or use kuser |
| 01:08.03 | Gun_Smoke | Nyle: reading. |
| 01:08.09 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: it should be in kdeadmin metapackage, or aptitude install kuser |
| 01:08.19 | Nyle | kuser is a gui for like adduser/addgroup etc. |
| 01:08.41 | Azar | you know who I am missing lately? tarzeau ... |
| 01:08.59 | themill | !seen tarzeau |
| 01:08.59 | dpkg | tarzeau is currently on #debian, last said: 'wow CGA can be cool: http://bp2.blogger.com/_uV3uJUiszdY/Rx-rKR-sgkI/AAAAAAAAASM/Yu8Ood0CMzs/s1600-h/dt.png'. |
| 01:09.01 | Nyle | n3kl: I tihnk linux-headers or linux-source |
| 01:09.08 | Nyle | n3kl: letm e confirm |
| 01:09.09 | DeFi | i get this error even though i already installed it |
| 01:09.10 | DeFi | checking for gsasl.h... no |
| 01:09.11 | DeFi | configure: error: no SASL backend available out of: gsasl |
| 01:09.30 | Gun_Smoke | Nyle: I added the user via kuser. The user is missing from kdm. I can type the name and pwd and login, but she wants to see her name. |
| 01:09.41 | n3kl | Nyle: ah, its called linux-headers in i686, kernel-headers in amd64 |
| 01:09.44 | Nyle | n3kl: yes, search for linux-headers...etc. |
| 01:09.54 | Nyle | yes that is correct |
| 01:10.05 | themill | Gun_Smoke: in kcontrolcenter, you can change which users are visible. Perhaps you have her hidden...? |
| 01:10.18 | Gun_Smoke | Nyle: In the login manager she isn't listed. |
| 01:10.31 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: I don't smoke kde |
| 01:10.32 | Nyle | oh fuck |
| 01:10.36 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: I don't use kdm |
| 01:10.41 | Gun_Smoke | lol |
| 01:10.41 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: try in #kde as well |
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| 01:10.51 | Gun_Smoke | Nyle: will do thanks. |
| 01:10.55 | Nyle | sure |
| 01:11.01 | DeFi | any idea? |
| 01:11.06 | Nyle | well ok i can launch kcontrol now |
| 01:11.07 | Zamboli | hey, im just trying to compile an app, but i get ./configure: error: C compiler cannot create executalbes |
| 01:11.08 | Nyle | hang on |
| 01:11.28 | Zamboli | or executables |
| 01:11.30 | n3kl | ls |
| 01:12.04 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: it should be in login manager > Users tab, anything with @ won't show up to beginw with, also anything that is checked won't show up |
| 01:12.13 | Nyle | doh |
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| 01:13.47 | Nyle | !tell Zamboli -about b-e |
| 01:14.01 | DeFi | :/ |
| 01:14.12 | Nyle | DeFi: I don't know. |
| 01:14.17 | Iradieh | Does anyone know how to reset a firmware on a laptop DVD-rom? |
| 01:14.27 | DeFi | ok |
| 01:14.29 | Zamboli | wow, you know how to help |
| 01:14.31 | Zamboli | thanks nyle |
| 01:14.42 | Nyle | uhh... ok |
| 01:14.43 | Nyle | yw |
| 01:14.58 | cleo | how can i exit opened documetation on Trminal |
| 01:15.08 | Nyle | cleo: using nano? |
| 01:15.12 | themill | DeFi: do you have libgsasl7-dev installed? |
| 01:15.18 | cleo | no |
| 01:15.30 | cleo | when i have finish to read man apt-spy |
| 01:15.31 | cleo | :) |
| 01:15.37 | Nyle | cleo: which app did you open the document in |
| 01:15.43 | Nyle | cleo: man page, hit q |
| 01:15.44 | DeFi | themill: no but i just saw it in apt-cache search :P |
| 01:15.51 | Nyle | cleo: also read man man |
| 01:15.59 | cleo | lol |
| 01:16.00 | themill | DeFi: apt-file is your friend for this sort of thing. |
| 01:16.00 | Nyle | the manual page of manual page |
| 01:16.02 | cleo | thanks |
| 01:16.07 | Nyle | cleo: it shows you how to use man more properly |
| 01:16.18 | DeFi | apt-file? |
| 01:16.24 | Nyle | yes |
| 01:16.26 | cleo | lol |
| 01:16.30 | Nyle | install and read manpage |
| 01:16.35 | themill | !apt-file |
| 01:16.35 | dpkg | i guess apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file, or list files in a package, see also <auto-apt> and <pdo>, or use apt-file: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename. |
| 01:17.10 | DeFi | ahh k |
| 01:17.11 | DeFi | ty |
| 01:17.44 | themill | np |
| 01:18.55 | DeFi | oh great |
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| 01:18.57 | DeFi | now it get |
| 01:18.58 | DeFi | checking for GnuSASL version >= 0.2.14... no |
| 01:18.58 | DeFi | configure: error: no SASL backend available out of: gsasl |
| 01:20.42 | mythomaniac | anyone compile the newest truecrypt and get this error message: /usr/bin/ld: unrecognized option '--hash-style=sysv' /usr/bin/ld: use the --help option for usage information collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [truecrypt] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2; and if you did you find a way to resolve it? |
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| 01:22.36 | Azar | Nyle have you ever read the book named "The Baron Munchausen" ? |
| 01:24.53 | Nyle | nope |
| 01:25.03 | Nyle | Supaplex: twinview |
| 01:25.40 | Nyle | Supaplex: or xinerama, dual head xorg.conf. two monitors, two devices, two screens, adjust all that in serverlayout |
| 01:26.42 | Nyle | or specify option twinview 1 in device nvidia section.. although i dislike twinview, because the combined desktop resolution of two monitors gives you a shitty refresh rate of around 51hz (last I remember) |
| 01:26.43 | Supaplex | ahh, <nvidia twinview>. that's right. |
| 01:27.36 | Nyle | if you do it xinerama way you get full refresh rate on both monitors, i.e., individual control |
| 01:27.43 | Nyle | !nvidia twinview |
| 01:27.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia twinview is sharing 2 screens (scr, tv what so ever) on you nvidia card you need to have the nvidia driver installed (ask nvidia) and read /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/ README and example script |
| 01:28.06 | Nyle | ahh there is a factoid already |
| 01:28.11 | Nyle | Azar: what about the book? |
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| 01:28.48 | shawn__ | Whats a good FTP server? |
| 01:28.49 | Azar | I'm buying it, mom used to read me from it when I was a toddler |
| 01:28.54 | Nyle | vsftpd |
| 01:28.55 | Zamboli | hmm subo apt-get build-essential asks me to insert a cd-rom :\ |
| 01:28.58 | Zamboli | sudo |
| 01:29.01 | Nyle | shawn__: vsftpd |
| 01:29.22 | Nyle | Zamboli: so take out the cdrom line from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 01:29.24 | Nyle | wtf |
| 01:29.29 | Nyle | Zamboli: so take out the cdrom line from /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:29.45 | Supaplex | tab completion bite back? :) |
| 01:29.51 | Supaplex | !factinfo nvidia twinview |
| 01:29.51 | dpkg | nvidia twinview -- last modified at Mon Apr 2 17:25:40 2007 by Gnea!i=gnea@garson.six.gnea.net; it has been requested 9 times, last by Nyle, 2m 8s ago. |
| 01:29.54 | Nyle | yeh |
| 01:29.55 | Nyle | heh |
| 01:29.57 | Zamboli | i'll look into it |
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| 01:31.16 | Supaplex | interesting. all along I was using "nv" until I bought this new card. |
| 01:31.35 | Nyle | yes |
| 01:31.41 | Nyle | interesting indeed |
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| 01:32.55 | Azar | Supaplex: so you say that "nv" does not work for the new cards? |
| 01:33.12 | Nyle | nv does not support twinview |
| 01:33.20 | Nyle | since he never used nvidia, he didnt know about twinview |
| 01:33.21 | Azar | ah but ofcourse |
| 01:33.25 | Nyle | (me guesses) |
| 01:33.39 | Azar | time to get the blob then |
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| 01:34.16 | Azar | use the blob, live with guilt but indulge the temporary benefits |
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| 01:35.30 | Supaplex | ^.^ |
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| 01:37.09 | Nyle | (live) from Denver |
| 01:37.38 | Azar | ski contest? |
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| 01:37.49 | Nyle | guitar nerds |
| 01:38.12 | Nyle | Joe Satriani, his former student Steve Vai, and Yngwie Malmsteen |
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| 01:38.45 | Nyle | one day man, one day, I tell ya, I'll be able to shred like them |
| 01:38.59 | Nyle | I've only been playing 20 years or so, gimme another 10, thats all I need |
| 01:39.10 | Nyle | maybe 15 |
| 01:39.28 | Nyle | Supaplex: hey what kinda monitors do you have? |
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| 01:39.34 | Azar | told you, move in here with me, I'll try to stuff you for 2 minutes in the Letterman show.. |
| 01:39.46 | Nyle | heh |
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| 01:40.04 | Supaplex | just some crappy old 20" and 21" crts |
| 01:40.13 | Nyle | Supaplex: crt kicks ass |
| 01:40.14 | Supaplex | one's a sony tube, and the other is a viewsonic |
| 01:40.37 | Azar | forkin Cinelerra : http://www.linux.com/feature/126441 |
| 01:40.40 | Nyle | I got dell m993s and mitsubishi diamond |
| 01:40.53 | Nyle | 3200x1200 |
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| 01:41.00 | Nyle | @ 85Hz each |
| 01:41.01 | Supaplex | yeah, imo they do. the viewsonic is 21" but shows its age. the 20" sony tube is gateway branded and totally rawkz. |
| 01:41.12 | Supaplex | got em both for $10 out the door :) |
| 01:41.16 | Nyle | I only have 2x 19" flat |
| 01:41.17 | hikenboot | greetings all--hoping someone can help I have been assigned the task of finding a script for attaching a client thru ftp to connect thru TLS/SSL to a filezilla server anyone know how to do this? |
| 01:41.24 | Nyle | Supaplex: damn nice |
| 01:41.30 | icedtea | whats a good mp3 to wav convertor? |
| 01:41.48 | Nyle | icedtea: why? |
| 01:41.48 | LeGreffi3R | a decoder? |
| 01:41.58 | icedtea | i mean decoder |
| 01:42.00 | icedtea | sorry |
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| 01:42.15 | icedtea | burning some songs to cd |
| 01:42.26 | Nyle | icedtea: search google, and then look in to see if debian has it packaged and mroe than likely it would |
| 01:42.34 | Nyle | !tell icedtea -about search |
| 01:43.01 | Supaplex | hikenboot: so you want to upload/download/sync or *something* maybe just login say hi and leave, on a secure ftp (not sftp, not ssh) server? and why would filezilla matter vs generic interopability? |
| 01:43.37 | icedtea | heh I already have one on my machine |
| 01:44.03 | Nyle | you can burn mp3 to cd as audio cd |
| 01:44.07 | Nyle | you don' tneed to convert to wav |
| 01:44.23 | Nyle | icedtea: I use k3b to burn audio cds |
| 01:44.56 | Supaplex | my dvd player plays mp3s. |
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| 01:45.06 | hikenboot | just figured i would mention that it is a filezilla server..not sure if it makes a difference(never used it)...no the customer is not using SSH the customer would like to transfer files download and upload |
| 01:45.12 | Nyle | I can play mp3s with my mind! |
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| 01:46.09 | Supaplex | sounds like you need <drum roll> An ftp client. |
| 01:46.10 | Nyle | hikenboot: filezilla server is running using sftp |
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| 01:46.25 | shawn__ | I cant believe how fast wsftp IS! |
| 01:46.28 | Nyle | it sounds lik eyou need to use sftp suppoorting client |
| 01:46.28 | hikenboot | we run no linux but do run an AIX server for a progress database its a windows shop I am trying to convince them that linux is a good thing |
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| 01:46.54 | Nyle | hikenboot: don't convince until you can show them its capabilities |
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| 01:47.02 | Supaplex | omg, did windows abandon ftp? ask ##windows if it's a windows client |
| 01:47.03 | Gun_Smoke | Nyle: It was an oversight on my part with the user ID. Hers was 500... Now 1001 everything is peachy.. |
| 01:47.17 | Nyle | Gun_Smoke: great |
| 01:47.19 | hikenboot | no the customer is a linux shop |
| 01:47.48 | Supaplex | !tell hikenboot -about search |
| 01:47.59 | Supaplex | ncftp might support it, otherwise, see what dpkg says |
| 01:48.29 | hikenboot | so the normal ftp client in linux wouldnt support this I would need a SFTP client? |
| 01:48.43 | shawn__ | vsftp* |
| 01:49.11 | Supaplex | I said *might* as in, try it and see. |
| 01:49.30 | icedtea | Nyle: I'll have to give that a try |
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| 01:52.35 | |2yan | what package do i need to install for qt3? building a custom kernel |
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| 01:52.47 | |2yan | and i get an error message saying i require it |
| 01:52.50 | Azar | you know, after I will install Lenny (when it becomes stable) on a new PC I will keep this little Sarge box safe.... it is still running well and I will never replace it. |
| 01:52.56 | hikenboot | thanks guys I found this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475158 must be a package for debian and centos though |
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| 01:53.22 | Azar | 80 years from now it will be donated to a museum |
| 01:53.22 | LeGreffi3R | |2yan> you don't need qt3 to build a kernel. |
| 01:53.23 | Gun_Smoke | Well before I get out of control with the compiz how-to from dpkg.. Anyone else have it up and running on etch with kde? |
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| 01:54.06 | Azar | ..and it will still be running then as today... without a blink |
| 01:54.11 | |2yan | possibly because i want to use xconfig? i get the error when trying to make xconfig |
| 01:54.21 | twiggz | beryl runs fine on etch here....never bothered with compiz. |
| 01:54.36 | Gun_Smoke | twiggz: I head beryl is dead? |
| 01:55.11 | Azar | now thinking of it, I vaguely remember some waves back few months ago about beryl... but I never gave it importance |
| 01:55.25 | Azar | ...because is not debian |
| 01:55.44 | icedtea | use compiz |
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| 01:56.03 | |2yan | aha, libqt3-mt-dev |
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| 01:58.57 | shawn__ | How come when I star vsftpd with init.d, root is running it twice and ftp is running it once? |
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| 01:59.28 | middayc | can I ask something: I have installed debian from netinst and it starts to boot but then at some point screen gets filled with upward traveling colored horiz. lines... I thought it has something to do witg X (gui mode) but installed again without (just selected web and sql server at package selection) and it happens again |
| 01:59.52 | Supaplex | !tell middayc -about single |
| 02:00.10 | middayc | what? |
| 02:00.41 | Supaplex | try booting in single user mode |
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| 02:00.58 | middayc | aha .. thanks I will try right now |
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| 02:05.02 | middayc | I tried single user mode and I got the same green traveling lines |
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| 02:07.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | with a 2.6.18 kernel it should be possible to write onto ntfs, or not? |
| 02:07.49 | Azar | hmm beryl site looks abandoned, no news since summer 2007, some rumors they merged with compiz and changed names.. meh who cares |
| 02:08.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, I see... dpkg knows a bit more about that |
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| 02:09.38 | Azar | and this is getting strange http://wiki.beryl-project.org/ |
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| 02:09.59 | liable | its the compiz-fusion team now i think |
| 02:10.15 | Azar | liable: yes, indeed |
| 02:10.44 | Azar | it feels like a conspiration : was aero envious at beryl's success? |
| 02:11.39 | liable | it was silly forking, but due to ego's and unwillingness to play nice on the compiz devs side iirc. guess they learnt to work together |
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| 02:11.45 | krizx | hi |
| 02:11.46 | DustyBin | can linux encode a AAC file from a .wav ? |
| 02:12.06 | krizx | i'm trying to install vmware tools in debian but i've below problem.. |
| 02:12.14 | LeGreffi3R | DustyBin> yes |
| 02:12.15 | krizx | hmm |
| 02:12.31 | krizx | it asks c header files' path but there isn't |
| 02:12.34 | DustyBin | LeGreffi3R: how did linux manage to get the encoding source code? doesnt apple own it? |
| 02:12.58 | DustyBin | krizx: you need to change the path |
| 02:13.02 | krizx | i installed linux-kernel-sources pkg but now it says there isn't version.h file in usr/src/linux/include directory |
| 02:13.11 | krizx | DustyBin what's the correct path? |
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| 02:13.22 | DustyBin | you need to make sure the correct compiler is used |
| 02:13.29 | DustyBin | i cannot remember on the top of my head |
| 02:13.52 | krizx | how can i be sure :s i installed gcc |
| 02:14.05 | DustyBin | krizx: it should be there anyway |
| 02:15.23 | LeGreffi3R | DustyBin> you don't know it, but whenever you listen to an MP3 or AAC or whatever, it is re-encoded to wav to be played to your sound card... |
| 02:15.47 | LeGreffi3R | DustyBin> using mplayer : "mplayer -ao pcm foobar.aac |
| 02:15.48 | LeGreffi3R | " |
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| 02:16.49 | Azar | liable: everything is explained on this article down under "Lights out" http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/206/#more-206 |
| 02:17.17 | DustyBin | krizx: search google for gcc environment variable |
| 02:17.23 | DustyBin | and set it before you run the vmware script |
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| 02:18.01 | middayc | does anyone know why is this: I installed debian without "Desktop environment" and at some moment when it's booting (I think when it has boted because it stops reading from HD) I get a full screen of small horizontal colored traveling lines ... I would think I have bad GFX drivers, but if I didn't install desktop shouldn't I still be in text mode when it gets booted? I tried single user mode and it's the same |
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| 02:18.40 | DustyBin | middayc: what gfx card is in your machine |
| 02:19.11 | middayc | ATI fire GL2 ... it's a older compaq workstation |
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| 02:19.34 | DustyBin | middayc: try unplugging and pluggins in the card and cables |
| 02:19.50 | snogglethorpe | I just checked out "epiphany-webkit", but it seems unable to render non-english text... |
| 02:20.00 | snogglethorpe | e.g., the page: http://packages.debian.org/ja/sid/arm/epiphany-webkit |
| 02:20.13 | liable | Azar: ah |
| 02:20.18 | snogglethorpe | with firefox, it renders fine, but with epiphany-webkit, all the non-ascii chars are boxes |
| 02:20.23 | middayc | DustyBin: ok .. I will go try |
| 02:20.25 | snogglethorpe | is this a known prob? |
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| 02:23.25 | amphi | snogglethorpe: perhaps it's your font; webkit renders non-roman chars ok here |
| 02:23.30 | shawn__ | 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root |
| 02:23.42 | shawn__ | Whats does that mean, root is running vsftpd? |
| 02:23.45 | liable | time to rip my laptop to bits again. |
| 02:23.51 | amphi | snogglethorpe: but I'm using svn webkit-gtk |
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| 02:24.11 | snogglethorpe | amphi: firefox renders fine, so obviously the fonts are there... |
| 02:24.29 | snogglethorpe | amphi: [and other gnome apps show japanese chars fine too] |
| 02:24.55 | middayc | DustyBin: no change.. but shouldn't it still be in the same console mode as it was when boot messages were showing (while booting) if I didn't install "desktop environment"? |
| 02:25.00 | amphi | snogglethorpe: check the font webkit is using |
| 02:25.07 | path_ | cant find 2.6.24 is it available out there ? |
| 02:25.14 | path_ | !kernel |
| 02:25.16 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.24, snapshot: 2.6.24-git15, 2.4: 2.4.36, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.24-mm1 |
| 02:26.11 | snogglethorpe | amphi: If I open the "preferences > fonts" dialog |
| 02:26.19 | snogglethorpe | and look at "Japanese", the fonts are "Default" |
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| 02:29.43 | DustyBin | Software Failure. Press left mouse button to continue. |
| 02:29.45 | DustyBin | Guru Meditation #00000025.65045332 |
| 02:30.11 | snogglethorpe | amphi: though I notice that it won't let me select any other fonts |
| 02:30.21 | snogglethorpe | amphi: so maybe the whole font system in epiphany-webkit is just fucked up? |
| 02:30.44 | amphi | maybe - what version is it? |
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| 02:31.17 | Azar | path_: depends, Debian (stable) 4.0 etch rund on 2.6.18 |
| 02:31.21 | Azar | runs* |
| 02:31.44 | amphi | snogglethorpe: revision 30057 is current |
| 02:32.45 | snogglethorpe | amphi: it's isntalled from a debian package; the debian package version is 2.20.3-1 |
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| 02:33.45 | path_ | Azar, yep but I was looking for 2.6.24 on .deb through debian mirrors |
| 02:34.01 | Azar | for Debian Etch? |
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| 02:34.17 | path_ | nope for debian lenny |
| 02:34.32 | path_ | I know etch goes up to 2.6.18 |
| 02:34.51 | Azar | path_: you could try backporting from sid "if" 2.6.24 made it to sid |
| 02:34.52 | path_ | lenny seems 2.6.23 |
| 02:35.07 | path_ | good idea :) |
| 02:35.13 | amphi | snogglethorpe: on testing, it says svn27674 - things have changed a bit since then, perhaps |
| 02:35.33 | Nyle | Azar: hi |
| 02:35.42 | Azar | meister Nyle!! hi! |
| 02:35.46 | amphi | wotcher Nyle |
| 02:35.48 | snogglethorpe | amphi: dunno, this is unstable (as of about an hour ago) |
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| 02:36.37 | amphi | snogglethorpe: I just checked out revision 30057 |
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| 02:42.35 | PythonNinja | how do i find out why a whole bunch of upgradable packages are being held back? |
| 02:42.40 | dondelelcaro | !held back |
| 02:42.41 | dpkg | i heard kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available. This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "dist-upgrade" and new packages need to be installed. To investigate, "apt-get -s install <kept-package>". Also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 |
| 02:43.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | nice one |
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| 02:44.02 | snogglethorpe | amphi: hmm ok, anyway I guess I'll report it as a bug, just wanted to see if I'd be making a fool of myself :-) |
| 02:44.08 | jamesrkept | Hey guys I am having a reall strange issue with my laptop (Acer ferrari 4000) and debian. I can't get X to work using the correct drivers. My graphics card is ATI Radeon x700 I have been using ubuntu with 'ati', 'radeon' and 'fglrx' drivers (on separate occassions) and worked fine, when using them in debian 4.0 it black screens me, I have to switch to vesa for something that I barely call useable 80 |
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| 02:44.15 | jamesrkept | 0x600 res :\ |
| 02:44.17 | snogglethorpe | amphi: thanks for the feedback |
| 02:44.40 | coondogster | is there anyway to install nvidia-glx without removing xorg? |
| 02:45.20 | \amethyst | PythonNinja: also aptitude why-not packagename to see why a package can't be installed (it might also help explain why it can't be upgraded, too) |
| 02:45.31 | PythonNinja | thanks \amethyst |
| 02:45.44 | PythonNinja | dist-upgrade upgrades every last one though ;) |
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| 02:46.18 | PythonNinja | out of curiosity, if a package is installed to satisfy dependencies, what's the command to find out what caused it to be installed? |
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| 02:48.08 | jetscreamer | does apt-rdepends recurse up? |
| 02:48.49 | DeFi | !jabberd |
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| 02:50.40 | jetscreamer | ah yes it will |
| 02:50.53 | jetscreamer | hope you notice your answer |
| 02:51.05 | PythonNinja | thanks jetscreamer |
| 02:51.10 | jetscreamer | -r |
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| 02:52.22 | JCDG | hi friends |
| 02:52.39 | se7en | why do i get full tap completion on the normal user but as su apt-g<TAB> works inst<TAB> doesn't and package search like k<TAB> does nothing as well |
| 02:53.10 | JCDG | i'm having trouble installing debian, |
| 02:53.11 | jetscreamer | hit tab many times? |
| 02:53.21 | se7en | jetscreamer: yes |
| 02:53.48 | JCDG | i gets stocked when in the isntallition progress bar says installing progrmas |
| 02:54.02 | PythonNinja | se7en: cp ~[youruser]/.bash* ~/ |
| 02:54.03 | PythonNinja | as root |
| 02:54.31 | snogglethorpe | PythonNinja: also in the interactive aptitude, in the info window (toggled by "D" command), there's a "why" display you can access |
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| 02:54.36 | JCDG | say please wait and i have 1 hour waiting |
| 02:54.37 | se7en | PythonNinja: ok let me try |
| 02:54.43 | snogglethorpe | PythonNinja: yuo can cycle though the various info display using "i" command |
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| 02:54.52 | jetscreamer | tab completion is usually turned on for root... it's probably the su'ing |
| 02:54.54 | snogglethorpe | PythonNinja: (default is package description) |
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| 02:55.06 | jetscreamer | iirc it's not a logon (shell? thing?) |
| 02:55.21 | jetscreamer | but you supply a switch and it .... |
| 02:55.27 | jetscreamer | somethingsomething |
| 02:55.58 | jetscreamer | ok i'm ready to run the nsa computers |
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| 02:56.33 | JCDG | hello, is someone tehre?? |
| 02:56.44 | se7en | cool thanks that worked PythonNinja |
| 02:56.52 | jetscreamer | -l Provide an environment similar to what the user would expect had the user logged in directly. |
| 02:56.53 | PythonNinja | np |
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| 02:57.30 | PythonNinja | jetscreamer: -l won't work in this case, since it's not an envrionment vars thing |
| 02:57.41 | PythonNinja | all -l does is consult a few more files for environment |
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| 02:57.59 | se7en | is there a way to change the font size in the terminal ctrl alt f1-6 |
| 02:58.21 | PythonNinja | se7en: look in your grub settings |
| 02:58.22 | jetscreamer | JCDG: what did you put in for a source, before you did the downloading? |
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| 02:58.35 | PythonNinja | add vga=780 to have 800x600 |
| 02:58.42 | PythonNinja | i forget the rest, google "grub vga" |
| 02:58.53 | JCDG | uhmmm |
| 02:58.57 | jetscreamer | vga=0x318 is 1024 |
| 02:59.11 | jetscreamer | i have better luck with hex |
| 02:59.20 | jetscreamer | 1024@32 |
| 02:59.29 | JCDG | look i selected only the graphic envioroment and the starndard system |
| 02:59.38 | PythonNinja | jetscreamer: i use hex, but i can remember the 800x600 one |
| 02:59.56 | JCDG | in the screen where i select the progrmas to download |
| 03:00.14 | JCDG | i got the .iso cd from a mirror of debian |
| 03:00.29 | jetscreamer | JCDG: yes, but in the preceding screen (i think it was the one just before) when it asked you what url you wanted to use as a source, what did you select? (or is the etch installer different and not ask you that) |
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| 03:00.49 | Miesco | Whats the latest linux kernel for etch? |
| 03:00.51 | jetscreamer | ftp.debian.org ? |
| 03:00.56 | jetscreamer | 2.6.18-5 i think |
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| 03:01.14 | jetscreamer | Miesco: /msg dpkg find linux-image etch |
| 03:01.34 | Miesco | I got 2.6.18-6-686 |
| 03:01.44 | jetscreamer | ok then that's probably it |
| 03:01.48 | JCDG | i'm using the unstable version |
| 03:01.49 | jetscreamer | no idea |
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| 03:01.58 | jetscreamer | JCDG: how did you manage that? |
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| 03:02.26 | Miesco | jetscreamer: Didn't tell me |
| 03:02.37 | Miesco | Okay good |
| 03:02.38 | JCDG | ok, before that screen there was a selectioin screen where i could chosse wich progrmas |
| 03:03.07 | JCDG | i wanted to install, after that y hit enter en then the bar bagn to fill |
| 03:03.17 | JCDG | but it got stuck in 5% :( |
| 03:03.17 | jetscreamer | JCDG: everytime my download failed i 'think' i had to restart the install. ok then it was before that selection screen. (that's called tasksel btw) |
| 03:03.33 | JCDG | yeah that one |
| 03:03.40 | jetscreamer | JCDG: crtl+c never worked for me but you could try... do you have windows on that box? |
| 03:03.42 | JCDG | tasksel |
| 03:03.55 | jetscreamer | the place i meant was before tasksel then |
| 03:04.12 | JCDG | nop, i'm running it on Vbox |
| 03:04.13 | jetscreamer | when it asked you for a source |
| 03:04.15 | jetscreamer | o |
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| 03:04.43 | JCDG | cause i want to learn a lot more using it, not reading about it |
| 03:04.45 | Miesco | What is wrong with the -misc-fixed- font for rxvt? Its drawing lines dont work in aptitude at all |
| 03:05.05 | DeFi | !GnuSASL |
| 03:05.09 | DeFi | :/ |
| 03:05.14 | jetscreamer | well see if you can kill that process, ctrl+c or whatever |
| 03:05.44 | JCDG | ok, it doesn't get thaht key, i'll restart the installation |
| 03:06.02 | Miesco | How do I add sources to my sources.list, like I did when I installed |
| 03:06.05 | Miesco | baseinstall? |
| 03:06.13 | DeFi | does anyone know how i can install the latest version of GnuSASL because when i aptitude install it and the lib's of it, its still too old version |
| 03:06.42 | JCDG | so, jetscreamer how did u fix that problem taht u had?? |
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| 03:07.05 | jetscreamer | JCDG: i started using goodbye-windows.com , and nightly installer images from d-i |
| 03:07.08 | jetscreamer | !d-i |
| 03:07.08 | dpkg | 4.0r0 etch is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. Lenny is now Testing! |
| 03:07.16 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 03:08.03 | jetscreamer | Miesco: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:08.08 | jetscreamer | !sources.list |
| 03:08.08 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 03:08.11 | JCDG | so i must forget that cd and burn it with gasolie?? |
| 03:08.21 | jetscreamer | JCDG: no, it seemed to work |
| 03:08.38 | jetscreamer | JCDG: it's was usually the source/url, for me.. it timed out |
| 03:08.48 | noob | on every boot i get can' set system time to a wrong time (2morrow) if i am in X i can set the right date and time but on the next boot it's wrong again including all my log files |
| 03:08.53 | jetscreamer | JCDG: and it was usually mirrors.kernel.org, back then |
| 03:09.03 | JCDG | yeah, but the system doesn't get back if that was a fali? |
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| 03:09.27 | JCDG | fail, sorry |
| 03:09.32 | jetscreamer | and mirrors.kernel.org is like first in the round robin or so... no, not for me it didn't. |
| 03:09.48 | jetscreamer | but i didn't try to figure it out |
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| 03:10.04 | jetscreamer | it really should, if it doesn't |
| 03:10.10 | JCDG | uhmm ok, let me try again the installation |
| 03:10.15 | krizx | how can i close beep sound in console? |
| 03:10.26 | jetscreamer | JCDG: if you wait somebody else might show up who knows more |
| 03:10.42 | JCDG | ok, thxs so much jetscreamer |
| 03:11.17 | noob | jetscreamer: settings --> bell in your konsole |
| 03:11.29 | noob | ups sorry jetscreamer |
| 03:11.41 | noob | krizx: settings --> bell in your konsole |
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| 03:12.03 | jetscreamer | krizx: try rmmod pc_speaker |
| 03:12.16 | jetscreamer | as root |
| 03:12.29 | DeFi | please could someone help me? :/ i cant seem to get past this |
| 03:12.30 | DeFi | checking for GnuSASL version >= 0.2.14... no |
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| 03:12.30 | DeFi | configure: error: no SASL backend available out of: gsasl |
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| 03:12.57 | krizx | thanks |
| 03:13.26 | noob | on every boot i get can' set system time to a wrong time (2morrow) if i am in X i can set the right date and time but on the next boot it's wrong again including all my log files |
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| 03:13.42 | DeFi | ive installed all the gsasl packages yet it still says its out of date? |
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| 03:16.47 | jetscreamer | i saw sasl talked about once in here, only reason i even know what it is |
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| 03:20.54 | Miesco | What font should I use with rxvt |
| 03:20.55 | pl1 | I have a 1.8TB RAID array with a 1.2TB extended partition on it. I have 600GB of virtual partitions allocated beneath the extended partition and I went back in to add a new partition and fdisk says there are "No free sectors available" |
| 03:21.08 | Miesco | misc-fixed does not work for some reason, messed up aptitude |
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| 03:21.43 | DeFi | ouch, its 5:30am already :O |
| 03:23.34 | noob | somebody know what i can do if the time and date is wrong after every reboot |
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| 03:23.48 | Miesco | Is there a package with an X font that is like the font on the console? |
| 03:23.54 | pl1 | noob: install openntpd and have it sync the time |
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| 03:26.12 | pdenapo | Hi I need to create a chrooted environment using debootstrap. I've many of the packages already downloaded. How may I tell debootstrap to use them instead of download them again? |
| 03:26.27 | midgetnat | Hello guys.. :) I'm having some issues trying to connect to my smtp server. I can do it locally but I cannot do it remotely. I verified the IPTABLES and the remote computer has access to it. What could be happening? |
| 03:27.09 | Miesco | I just inatalled all these font packages, how come there not showing up in xfontsel? |
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| 03:30.54 | noob | ok pl1 there is no man openntpd ... how do i use it |
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| 03:31.11 | pl1 | noob: ntpd -s |
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| 03:31.24 | pl1 | noob: man ntpd |
| 03:31.40 | noob | thanks |
| 03:31.59 | pl1 | np |
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| 03:35.35 | Miesco | Honestly, how do you get fonts for xfontsel |
| 03:36.25 | manu_hack | hi, after unplugging my mouse, it doesn't work any more, what command can reactivate it? |
| 03:37.00 | Supaplex | did you plug it in again? hehehe |
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| 03:37.36 | Supaplex | ps/2 mice act hotpluggable when they're really not. |
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| 03:39.32 | Supaplex | this nvidia.ko kernel oops is down right frustrating |
| 03:41.19 | moshii | manu_hack: You might have to restart X... |
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| 03:45.51 | grendal_prime | is anyone working on a fix to the brokenness of flash in kde? |
| 03:45.56 | vin` | how long would resizing a 140 GB ntfs take? d-i is still at 0% for the past 10 mins, there is disk activity but no visible progress |
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| 03:46.42 | grendal_prime | it pisses me off |
| 03:46.47 | Miesco | I fixed my font problem |
| 03:46.48 | Miesco | :) |
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| 03:48.14 | Miesco | What repository has nvidia-kernels in it |
| 03:48.21 | Miesco | Cause I dont have it |
| 03:48.29 | |2yan | is mkinitramfs a replacement for mkinitrd? |
| 03:48.38 | Miesco | Trying to do the nvidia one liner |
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| 03:49.28 | grendal_prime | who are all these people asking questions...and where are all the people with the answers!!!! |
| 03:49.48 | grendal_prime | WHERE HAVE YOU PUT THE ANSWER PEOPLE!! |
| 03:50.30 | Miesco | I need non-free!!! |
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| 03:52.44 | jetscreamer | we hid it |
| 03:52.49 | jetscreamer | nyaaah nyaaah |
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| 03:53.39 | jetscreamer | grendal_prime: try turning off transparency on your taskbar... |
| 03:53.52 | jetscreamer | maybe that was something else though |
| 03:54.13 | Nyle | jetscreamer: hi |
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| 03:54.21 | jetscreamer | none really Miesco |
| 03:54.26 | jetscreamer | sid if you're lucky |
| 03:54.39 | jetscreamer | http://linux.hfds.com/files/n-i.txt Miesco |
| 03:54.52 | jetscreamer | !tell nyle -about nyeet |
| 03:55.22 | Nyle | yes, yes I did |
| 03:56.03 | grendal_prime | jetscreamer: that fixes flash in konquror? |
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| 03:56.42 | grendal_prime | hell ill buy it...ill try anything once..well accept for those kinky things that i have tried more than once |
| 03:56.51 | noob | can someone point in the right direction where i could change the font size of the terminal /boot/grub/ but i can't find a file to change the font |
| 03:56.58 | Nyle | jetscreamer: hows the job market in houston? |
| 03:57.00 | jetscreamer | maybe that was something else though i said, grendal_prime |
| 03:57.04 | jetscreamer | Nyle: no idea |
| 03:57.10 | Nyle | jetscreamer: why not? |
| 03:57.17 | jetscreamer | i have one |
| 03:57.24 | Nyle | jetscreamer: you don't keep up with the state of texas |
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| 03:57.35 | jetscreamer | no i barely can keep up with myself |
| 03:57.42 | Nyle | so do I, but I'm trying to find one in houston |
| 03:57.43 | grendal_prime | hes young...hes got his health ..the last thing in the world he wants now is a JOB! |
| 03:57.50 | zu22 | running debian lenny with apache2, trying to locate the canonical httpd.conf , /etc/apache2/http.conf is nearly empty and /etc/apache has httpd.conf.0 httpd.conf.dpkg-dist http.conf.dpkg-old? i wish to change "ServerName" |
| 03:57.54 | Nyle | dude hes like 90 years old |
| 03:57.55 | Nyle | heh |
| 03:58.07 | grendal_prime | name the movie that line came from |
| 03:58.18 | Nyle | no one cares |
| 03:58.30 | jetscreamer | i think i just saw that one |
| 03:58.35 | jetscreamer | transformers? |
| 03:58.40 | Nyle | jetscreamer: I'm gonna get me a IT job there, and then I'm gonna move |
| 03:58.49 | grendal_prime | damn rough crowd...no...the big labowsky |
| 03:58.52 | jetscreamer | hp/compaq is big here |
| 03:58.58 | jetscreamer | never saw that one |
| 03:58.59 | Nyle | grendal_prime: where? |
| 03:59.09 | grendal_prime | dell is in texas to if i remember right |
| 03:59.15 | Nyle | fuck dell. |
| 03:59.17 | jetscreamer | austin.. and loll |
| 03:59.24 | jetscreamer | lloll |
| 03:59.31 | zu22 | i'll just add it to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf looks like debian doesn't use httpd.conf |
| 03:59.32 | Nyle | stfu with the lolasdlfjl;aksjdfl;iolololol |
| 03:59.33 | Nyle | godadmit |
| 03:59.45 | zu22 | !lolcat Nyle |
| 03:59.52 | Nyle | lulz? |
| 03:59.53 | jetscreamer | !cat nyle |
| 03:59.55 | Nyle | argh. |
| 03:59.59 | grendal_prime | i have a dell laptop..actually i have 4 of them..the all work great |
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| 04:00.16 | zu22 | grendal_prime: same here, latitude c600 |
| 04:00.17 | Miesco | (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! |
| 04:00.22 | Miesco | I got that when I did the nvidia one liner |
| 04:00.25 | jetscreamer | Miesco: see my link |
| 04:00.35 | jetscreamer | uninstall debian nvidia stuff first |
| 04:00.55 | rafuch0 | how do i set the locale for my user |
| 04:00.59 | grendal_prime | ive got the cheep ones inspiron |
| 04:01.13 | rafuch0 | root have the right lenguage but my user dont |
| 04:01.14 | Miesco | jetscreamer: I dont see it, but i'll uninstall it |
| 04:01.23 | rafuch0 | if i do export LANG=xxx it get sets |
| 04:01.35 | rafuch0 | but next login all go away |
| 04:01.51 | jetscreamer | http://linux.hfds.com/files/n-i.txt Miesco |
| 04:02.03 | jetscreamer | smooth as a baby's behind |
| 04:02.03 | Nyle | oh yeh |
| 04:02.10 | Nyle | hfds |
| 04:02.23 | Nyle | I wonder if I still have an account |
| 04:02.28 | jetscreamer | hfds is hiring .. commision only... :) |
| 04:02.34 | jetscreamer | yeah it's there |
| 04:02.37 | Nyle | cool |
| 04:02.39 | Miesco | Whats the link again |
| 04:02.40 | Nyle | you da man |
| 04:02.47 | Miesco | wait nvm |
| 04:02.47 | jetscreamer | lloll |
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| 04:02.49 | Nyle | im gonn autilize it |
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| 04:03.10 | Nyle | man im gonna go and not be depressed with life tomorrow |
| 04:03.16 | jetscreamer | just keep a local backup |
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| 04:04.12 | Nyle | I'm gonna accept the fact that I can't play music that people like, so I'll never become big. That kinda sucks. |
| 04:04.14 | Nyle | :( |
| 04:04.57 | rafuch0 | i made dpkg-reconfigure locales and root have the right one but user didint grab those settings how can do that any ideas? |
| 04:04.57 | jetscreamer | i've got to accept the fact that even though i'm awesome i'll never make it big |
| 04:04.58 | zu22 | Nyle: not everyone can be a Bach, life isn't fair, make the best of it and move on :) |
| 04:04.58 | jetscreamer | fuck that |
| 04:05.00 | jetscreamer | i'm a god |
| 04:05.04 | Nyle | jetscreamer: surely you jest |
| 04:05.07 | zu22 | jetscreamer: lol |
| 04:05.09 | jetscreamer | demigod |
| 04:05.29 | jetscreamer | jest about the never make it? maybe |
| 04:05.34 | Nyle | but after 20 years of incessant practice on my instrument, I play what only a certain crowd can dig |
| 04:05.42 | Nyle | I can't play moronic music, I'm sorry |
| 04:05.50 | zu22 | i hope someday i will see MS Windows replaced in market dominance by Linux :) |
| 04:06.04 | Nyle | zu22: that will be the day when you see me on MTV or something |
| 04:06.10 | Nyle | heh |
| 04:06.10 | zu22 | Nyle: heh |
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| 04:06.59 | Nyle | zu22: you are people, right |
| 04:07.04 | jetscreamer | !tell sco50000 -about ntfsro |
| 04:07.07 | Nyle | jetscreamer is also people |
| 04:07.09 | zu22 | i wonder what % of Windoze lusers' machines are zombies? everytime someone brings in a Winbox it has like 1,000 malware/viruses/spyware/worms lol |
| 04:07.17 | jetscreamer | !tell sco50000 -about rwvfat |
| 04:07.52 | jetscreamer | they don't really care, they just throw money at it |
| 04:08.01 | zu22 | yeah |
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| 04:08.38 | dserban_ | anyone ever get a hung flash ... eh... "artifact" of the app when your iceweasel bit it? and it just stays on your screen forevermore?.... how do I kill it without restarting x? |
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| 04:08.58 | jetscreamer | refresh/redraw the desktop |
| 04:08.58 | baloo | There's three things that I charge an extra fee that, away from customers, I call the asshole tax. |
| 04:09.27 | jetscreamer | gnome, dserban_ ? |
| 04:09.39 | jetscreamer | (beats me how in gnome) |
| 04:10.03 | dserban_ | jetscreamer, yeah gnome :( |
| 04:10.12 | baloo | 1) Asking me to use a Windows box that isn't a self-contained Windows CE platform. 2) Asking me to do business in California. 3) Making me wait around while on the clock. |
| 04:11.07 | jetscreamer | dserban_: nautilus is what does the 'desktop', just as explorer does it in windows |
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| 04:11.24 | jetscreamer | dserban_: maybe restart the running instance of naughylust |
| 04:11.29 | jetscreamer | naughtylust |
| 04:11.29 | dserban_ | yeah, but it's not on the "desktop" seems to be stuck on a "different" plane.... |
| 04:11.35 | dserban_ | :) |
| 04:11.58 | baloo | Canadians love me because I'm one of the few American businesses that will accept Canadian currency at a fair exchange rate. I love it because I can sit for a few weeks before cashing their check for a little extra money betting against the USD... |
| 04:11.59 | jetscreamer | yeah but nautilus is what's drawing all that, iirc |
| 04:12.18 | jetscreamer | that's a good idea, baloo |
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| 04:13.02 | jetscreamer | feels like i'm livin at the bottom of a grave |
| 04:13.21 | Miesco | Okay I booted with the 6.18-5 kernel or whatever and nvidia works now |
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| 04:14.56 | dserban_ | baloo, what business? |
| 04:15.59 | zu22 | baloo: commie :D |
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| 04:17.30 | ferasso | !tell ferasso -about rwvfat |
| 04:17.46 | ferasso | !tell ferasso -about unionfs |
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| 04:19.10 | jetscreamer | !tel ferasso -about msg |
| 04:19.13 | jetscreamer | !tel ferasso -about msg the bot |
| 04:19.17 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 04:19.23 | liberion | hey guys i want to update my etch to unstable ive been looking for some wiki guide but cant find any any suggestions? |
| 04:19.24 | jetscreamer | !tell ferasso -about msg the bot |
| 04:19.41 | jetscreamer | !etch->sid |
| 04:19.48 | jetscreamer | figures |
| 04:19.52 | jetscreamer | !etch->lenny |
| 04:19.52 | dpkg | First, see <apt-listbugs>. Next, edit sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny'. Save the file, then update and dist-upgrade. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. NOTE: you should be running a 2.6 kernel before trying to upgrade |
| 04:20.00 | jetscreamer | !lenny->sid |
| 04:20.08 | jetscreamer | !testing->sid |
| 04:20.12 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 04:20.18 | jetscreamer | anyway, go testing first |
| 04:20.23 | vin` | !testing->unstable |
| 04:20.23 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 04:20.27 | jetscreamer | get comfy, then go sid if you still wanna |
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| 04:21.01 | jetscreamer | testing is almost sid |
| 04:21.54 | ferasso | !etch->buzz |
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| 04:23.18 | path_ | jetscreamer, I'd say the diference between both is a week |
| 04:24.10 | ferasso | !etch->andymom |
| 04:24.25 | dserban | andy? |
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| 04:25.34 | jetscreamer | he must be andy, or an andywannabe |
| 04:25.44 | jetscreamer | he must be andy, or andywannabe |
| 04:26.07 | deejoe | wow, it seems that, if efficiency were the goal, the businesscard and netinst images would have jigdo images at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/jigdo-cd/ too |
| 04:26.25 | moshii | what happens after the toy story characters are exhausted? |
| 04:26.33 | deejoe | doom |
| 04:27.05 | jetscreamer | they just came out with a toy story spinoff |
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| 04:27.08 | jetscreamer | 'just' |
| 04:27.14 | jetscreamer | last year maybe |
| 04:27.23 | moshii | jetscreamer: is it a piss poor excuse of a film? |
| 04:27.34 | jetscreamer | i'm all for using quake instead of toy story |
| 04:27.42 | jetscreamer | moshii: i dunno i just know it exists |
| 04:28.06 | grendal_prime | well walle is comming out soon? we could just start using the charaters in it? |
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| 04:28.23 | jetscreamer | nonono... tenacious d |
| 04:28.40 | moshii | I think all relases after lenny should be called "learn how to use google or go away r?" |
| 04:28.49 | jetscreamer | we just need two editions and it will be the greatest distro in the world (forever) |
| 04:29.53 | Miesco | I got a question, if Im using aptitude -t etch-backports, will that JUST show the backport packages? |
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| 04:32.05 | deejoe | feh |
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| 04:33.47 | jetscreamer | try |
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| 04:34.55 | noob | how do i change the terminal font size |
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| 04:36.43 | jetscreamer | i thought we answered that |
| 04:36.48 | moshii | noob: framebuffer? |
| 04:36.51 | jetscreamer | you want it smaller? |
| 04:37.11 | jetscreamer | edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default vga= |
| 04:37.24 | jetscreamer | then run update-grub |
| 04:37.44 | moshii | jetscreamer: that's changing the resolution of the framebuffer opposed to the font ;) |
| 04:37.50 | jetscreamer | i personally choose vga=0x318 |
| 04:38.09 | jetscreamer | oh well i don't want to walk him through compiling a kernel to get at those fonts |
| 04:38.12 | jetscreamer | :o |
| 04:38.29 | jetscreamer | but |
| 04:38.29 | moshii | There is a kernel option to change the font.. surely. |
| 04:38.42 | jetscreamer | yes but the modules are not enabled by default iirc |
| 04:39.02 | jetscreamer | it's under the fb place in a sub menu in menuconfig |
| 04:39.09 | jetscreamer | there is something else though |
| 04:39.35 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure console.... console-something.. not data... |
| 04:39.58 | moshii | I'm sure it used to be possible to change the font in the vga line.. but that was with the amiga bootstrap thing many moons ago |
| 04:40.01 | jetscreamer | maybe console-common |
| 04:40.26 | jetscreamer | or wait i rem |
| 04:40.30 | deejoe | anyway, nice choice I've got: jigdo a full CD from a local mirror, or download a full businesscard image from .se to .us |
| 04:40.37 | deejoe | again I say "feh" |
| 04:40.57 | jetscreamer | !info console-tools |
| 04:40.59 | moshii | deejoe: whats the problem? |
| 04:41.00 | dpkg | console-tools: (Linux console and font utilities), section utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.2.3dbs-65 (sid), Packaged size: 289 kB, Installed size: 892 kB |
| 04:41.03 | jetscreamer | businesscard |
| 04:41.29 | moshii | jetscreamer: the kernel has some different fonts compiled in that you can use too though |
| 04:41.31 | jetscreamer | you can set console fonts with that package iirc |
| 04:41.41 | deejoe | moshii: neither businesscard nor netinst CD images have jigdo files |
| 04:41.45 | moshii | jetscreamer: like before any userland is present |
| 04:41.55 | deejoe | at least, so far as I've been able to find. |
| 04:41.56 | noob | moshii: framebuffer ???? |
| 04:42.10 | moshii | deejoe: those images are small, just download the iso |
| 04:42.47 | deejoe | well, that's what I'm doing. Which is why I'm pulling 50MB transatlantically, instead of from my ISP's mirror. |
| 04:42.51 | jetscreamer | moshii: yeah, but either only a couple are available, or they all are not compiled |
| 04:42.54 | moshii | noob: yar, there are a bunch of different fonts and some different sizes. I think you have to pass an option to your fb driver |
| 04:43.16 | moshii | deejoe: whats the problem? thats sort of the point of the internet |
| 04:43.36 | deejoe | oh, sure. Why bother with mirrors, I guess? |
| 04:44.08 | moshii | deejoe: I'm sure theres a mirror with the netinst images in the us,.. there are no jigdo files because theres no reason to have them |
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| 04:44.32 | jetscreamer | this one |
| 04:44.34 | jetscreamer | # CONFIG_FONTS is not set |
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| 04:44.50 | deadlyallance543 | is there a deb package to inabel the use of the fingerprint scanner on an hp laptop for login ? |
| 04:44.52 | moshii | jetscreamer: that's a debian thing? |
| 04:44.56 | jetscreamer | but CONFIG_FONT_8x8=y CONFIG_FONT_8x16=y |
| 04:45.04 | jetscreamer | yes it's a stock .24 |
| 04:45.28 | jetscreamer | if config fonts was true there would be a lot more |
| 04:45.36 | moshii | deadlyallance543: http://tuxmobil.org/laptop_fingerprint_reader_linux.html |
| 04:45.36 | jetscreamer | to choose from |
| 04:46.03 | moshii | jetscreamer: ah, I think there are more fonts configured in other archs.. |
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| 04:46.26 | deadlyallance543 | moshii thank you so much |
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| 04:47.07 | moshii | deadlyallance543: packages may be in debian for the things that page mentions, use apt-cache search finger print.. |
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| 04:48.17 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search biometrics might return something also.. think i saw something once |
| 04:48.31 | jetscreamer | nope |
| 04:48.32 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 04:48.47 | moshii | aes2501-wy - userspace software for usb aes2501 fingerprint scanner |
| 04:49.10 | moshii | I think that's the one you want. :) |
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| 05:02.18 | RyanRyan52 | how do I unlog in a user? |
| 05:02.37 | RyanRyan52 | kill a user that is ssh-ed into a system |
| 05:02.54 | Supaplex | like killall -u ? |
| 05:03.04 | Supaplex | that'll kill all their processes |
| 05:03.11 | RyanRyan52 | I just want to kill one ssh connection though |
| 05:03.21 | Supaplex | kill it by pid |
| 05:03.32 | Supaplex | pstree -p etc |
| 05:03.49 | RyanRyan52 | thanks |
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| 05:04.11 | simonrvn | !slay |
| 05:04.12 | dpkg | from memory, slay is a handy utility that sends a given signal (kill by default) to all processes of the given user(s) |
| 05:04.39 | nevyn | or to you if you don't have sufficient privs to run it. |
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| 05:06.35 | wols_ | gd shows up as what in a phpinfo()? seems I can't find it |
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| 05:07.12 | Supaplex | wols_: there's a gd plugin/module for php, is that installed to? |
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| 05:07.21 | wols_ | Supaplex: of course |
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| 05:07.38 | wols_ | but my php code complains about imagefromjpeg function not found and phpinfo soesn't show gd |
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| 05:07.54 | Supaplex | mmm dpkg -l \*php\*gd\* maybe ? |
| 05:07.56 | wols_ | ii php5-gd |
| 05:08.34 | Supaplex | Sorry, but the function imagefromjpeg is not in the online manual. Perhaps you misspelled it, or it is a relatively new function... |
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| 05:08.55 | wols_ | a1a1http://www.google.de/search?q=imagefromjpeg+gd&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
| 05:08.57 | Supaplex | from php.net/mpls.qwest.ne |
| 05:09.25 | Miesco | Whats a good smtp client? |
| 05:09.27 | Supaplex | nm my paste blob. |
| 05:09.39 | Supaplex | i meant php.net/imagefromjpeg |
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| 05:09.51 | wols_ | Fatal error: Call to undefined function imagecreatefromjpeg() in /var/www/z2/lib/util.php on line 61 |
| 05:09.57 | wols_ | is the exact error |
| 05:10.02 | nevyn | Miesco: MUA, MDA or MTA? |
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| 05:11.06 | wols_ | and phpinfo shows no god even when I have a extension=gd.so in my config files |
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| 05:12.14 | cua0 | does anyone know of a console based screensaver ? i remember bsd used to have them... i never run in X so i would like some pretty ascii pictures or something zipping around when i fall asleep or whatever |
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| 05:12.29 | wols_ | Supaplex: restart of apache2 solved it |
| 05:12.43 | Supaplex | http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.imagecreatefromjpeg.php#75184 |
| 05:12.46 | Supaplex | ahh cool |
| 05:12.55 | jetscreamer | there's a matrix one for console iirc,k cua0 |
| 05:12.58 | fysffa | hello there, i have just updated apt-get and upgraded my system and i got the message "The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-2.6-amd64 openvpn" ; can someone tell how can i see why these packages did not get upgraded ? |
| 05:13.18 | cua0 | jetscreamer: any idea if it's packaged or is it something i have to search for and compile? |
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| 05:14.32 | jetscreamer | cua0: packaged if i'm remembering correctly |
| 05:16.03 | Supaplex | hummm |
| 05:16.04 | jetscreamer | !info cmatrix |
| 05:16.06 | dpkg | cmatrix: (Console Matrix simulates the display from "The Matrix"), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.2a-2.1 (sid), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 60 kB |
| 05:16.20 | cua0 | w00t |
| 05:16.34 | Supaplex | schweet :P |
| 05:16.42 | jetscreamer | there's sure to be 50billion others |
| 05:16.48 | jetscreamer | they had screensavers for dos |
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| 05:17.00 | moshii | is it possible to enable upstarts parallel'ness in the debian version? |
| 05:17.26 | homecable | NTA 6010A with a 128mb cf card and want to run linux on it i have monowall on it atm |
| 05:17.36 | homecable | http://pastebin.ca/894701 |
| 05:17.51 | homecable | CPU: VIA C3 Samuel 2 (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) |
| 05:17.55 | Supaplex | homecable: how do you expect to fit debian on it? |
| 05:18.11 | homecable | is there a embd copy ? |
| 05:18.22 | Supaplex | !emdebian |
| 05:18.22 | dpkg | hmm... emdebian is a project focused on extending Debian's reach into the embedded space; it is an independent project and not formally associated with the Debian distribution [yet]. It aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded Linux. Check out http://www.emdebian.org/ as well as http://familiar.handhelds.org/ or #emdebian on irc.oftc.net |
| 05:18.26 | moshii | you won't get base into 128 meg heh |
| 05:18.59 | Supaplex | I caved in on my 64mb box and setup openwrt. :) |
| 05:19.01 | nevyn | moshii: drop locales and you come close |
| 05:19.14 | Supaplex | I had one $*@$( of a time on a 256mb card |
| 05:19.20 | homecable | i got 256mbs of ram |
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| 05:19.24 | homecable | in there |
| 05:19.27 | moshii | nevyn: I know, I had debian running from a 256meg usb stick with kde :) |
| 05:19.41 | Supaplex | potato don't count ;) |
| 05:20.03 | moshii | nevyn: 128meg is just a bit too small to get stuff to work |
| 05:20.38 | nevyn | I used to build systems for http://www.computerbank.org.au 5 years ago.. we had early kde3 on 486's with 36mb of ram and 200-500mb disks |
| 05:20.42 | nevyn | that was tight then. |
| 05:20.44 | homecable | u have to use striped down vers |
| 05:21.13 | Supaplex | don't be suprised if you leap right out of the scope here. |
| 05:21.57 | moshii | or just rip out that 128 card and stick an inexpensive 1 or 2gb one in there |
| 05:22.07 | homecable | yeah |
| 05:22.12 | homecable | i could do that |
| 05:22.34 | moshii | CF is ata anyhow, you could attach a normal drive too :) |
| 05:22.37 | homecable | i bought this thin client off ebay for 5 bucks |
| 05:22.38 | homecable | lol |
| 05:22.46 | homecable | its too small |
| 05:22.56 | homecable | need a laptop harddrive |
| 05:23.00 | homecable | or somerthing |
| 05:23.13 | wols_ | homecable: maybe try a custom debian livecd |
| 05:23.15 | moshii | homecable: it'd be enough for a custom system with just enough stuff to run as an xterminal |
| 05:23.23 | Supaplex | i have a fistfull of small lappie drives floating around here |
| 05:23.30 | homecable | i just need it for a firewall/router |
| 05:23.45 | wols_ | homecable: use DSL |
| 05:23.48 | Supaplex | openwrt does all that |
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| 05:24.18 | Supaplex | i've got it running here :) with irssi, openwrt, iptables, you name it |
| 05:24.23 | Supaplex | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.26 | wols_ | so it might be doable with it |
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| 05:24.45 | moshii | Supaplex: openwrt runs on x86 machines now? |
| 05:24.51 | Supaplex | yup |
| 05:24.56 | Supaplex | Linux pyroclastic 2.6.22 #2 Sun Aug 5 08:25:48 MDT 2007 i586 unknown |
| 05:25.26 | homecable | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/index.xml |
| 05:25.46 | Supaplex | my only issue so far, is really, stty/tty is missing |
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| 05:26.09 | moshii | beh, you might as well run netbsd if your considering gentoo ;) |
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| 05:26.25 | homecable | gentoo takes to long to install |
| 05:26.26 | homecable | lol |
| 05:26.28 | homecable | i tryed |
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| 05:26.32 | homecable | before lol |
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| 05:27.02 | Supaplex | I even built cross compilers for all my debian boxes so the amd64 machines could pitch in with distcc :D |
| 05:27.31 | homecable | Supaplex what speed system on that openwrt |
| 05:28.01 | Supaplex | http://pyroclastic.daxal.com/specs.html |
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| 05:29.37 | wols_ | homecable: openwrt.org. there are many many different hardware platforms for it |
| 05:29.41 | wols_ | widely differing specs |
| 05:31.20 | Supaplex | even 64mb is nearly overkill for disk or ram. :) |
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| 05:32.05 | baloo | dd-wrt isn't bad either depending on what you need. |
| 05:32.08 | Supaplex | I'm using 60% ram and 33% disk (64m disk+ram) |
| 05:32.25 | homecable | Supaplex what type of box is that |
| 05:32.32 | homecable | is that a thin client ? |
| 05:32.38 | Supaplex | yes |
| 05:32.54 | jetscreamer | die large screen owner die |
| 05:32.57 | jetscreamer | or give it to me |
| 05:33.19 | homecable | mines a NTA 6010A |
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| 05:33.42 | Supaplex | mine's a noname |
| 05:33.55 | Supaplex | the soc has no heatsink :) |
| 05:34.27 | Supaplex | my wimpy 200va ups kept it on 2h+ durring the last power outage |
| 05:34.42 | mackss | if apt is telling me that the following packages hae been kept back "linux-image-2.6-686", does that mean when i apt-get upgrade it won't update the kernel? |
| 05:35.19 | Supaplex | I got some pci<->cardbus bridge adapters I'll test it on soon so I can get wireless+toys running. |
| 05:35.40 | Supaplex | mackss: dunno. any reason you can't just install them now? |
| 05:35.58 | mackss | Supaplex: there isn't i am just asking before i do |
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| 05:40.47 | mackss | Supaplex: http://pastebin.com/d5881ef0c |
| 05:41.10 | mackss | Supaplex: if you could take a look i would appreciate it. It didn't upgrade the kernel. Any idea about that? :-/ |
| 05:42.02 | mackss | when i run apt-get upgrade it still says it's being kept back. But it did upgrade the other stuff just fine |
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| 05:42.25 | mackss | :( |
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| 05:43.27 | jetscreamer | try dist-upgrade |
| 05:44.07 | jetscreamer | if it's testing or sid, you must come to expect such things |
| 05:44.20 | jetscreamer | if it's testing or sid, you must come to expect such things to happen |
| 05:44.51 | jetscreamer | they fix theirselves... what you need to look out for is when it wants to uninstall stuff when you're upgrading |
| 05:46.02 | Supaplex | i only see stable stuff on that paste |
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| 05:46.22 | valdyn | if there'S a new meta package there obviously is a _new_ kernel package, which obviousl "upgrade" wont install |
| 05:46.25 | valdyn | rtfm |
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| 05:47.17 | Supaplex | and you should change stable to etch to prevent unexpected lenny stuff from installing when it goes stable |
| 05:47.51 | jetscreamer | oh i didn't look at it |
| 05:47.51 | Supaplex | !info linux-image-2.6-686 etch |
| 05:47.56 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6-686: (Linux kernel 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.6.18+6etch2 (etch), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 8 kB |
| 05:48.14 | jetscreamer | do try dist-upgrade though |
| 05:50.58 | mackss | jetscreamer: i am running stable |
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| 05:51.34 | jetscreamer | so i heard |
| 05:51.36 | mackss | Supaplex: yes i am running stable |
| 05:51.40 | jetscreamer | do try dist-upgrade though |
| 05:52.00 | mackss | if i do that won't it upgrade me to testing? |
| 05:52.01 | mackss | or something |
| 05:52.50 | mackss | or is it that it will only dist-upgrade me to the current stable version |
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| 05:54.06 | Jygzygyzel | if you would wanna modify a TCP packet that is being sent |
| 05:54.10 | Jygzygyzel | how would you do it? |
| 05:54.27 | Supaplex | mackss: depends on your sources.list |
| 05:54.30 | Jygzygyzel | i know the packet i wanna change and i know the bits i wanna change |
| 05:54.41 | Supaplex | Jygzygyzel: with care :-D |
| 05:54.43 | Jygzygyzel | but i just don't know how to change |
| 05:54.52 | Supaplex | anyway, zzZzzZz for me. |
| 05:54.53 | mackss | Supaplex: how do i check that? |
| 05:55.03 | Jygzygyzel | there has to be somekind of monitor that monitors for all packets |
| 05:55.06 | mackss | Supaplex: i am pretty sure i only have stable links in that list though |
| 05:55.10 | Supaplex | !tell mackss -about sources.list |
| 05:55.13 | Jygzygyzel | issues a regexp |
| 05:55.24 | Jygzygyzel | and then if it matches itll replace the packet |
| 05:55.33 | Jygzygyzel | now is there a tool for this |
| 05:55.54 | Supaplex | Jygzygyzel: iptables can route stuff to userspace. |
| 05:56.08 | Supaplex | now really, /detached - good luck y'all |
| 05:56.12 | jetscreamer | dserban: over here though |
| 05:56.14 | Jygzygyzel | hmm yea |
| 05:56.32 | Jygzygyzel | so i can route the traffic based on the port |
| 05:56.40 | dserban | cygnus:~# cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 05:56.40 | dserban | /usr/sbin/gdm |
| 05:56.46 | Jygzygyzel | i could route that to script that monitors and changes |
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| 05:56.58 | mackss | Supaplex: http://rafb.net/p/YUtYI557.html looks good to me |
| 05:57.13 | Jygzygyzel | anyone know any examples for stuff like this? |
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| 05:57.45 | jetscreamer | !tell adzy_maniac -about root |
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| 05:57.51 | mackss | jetscreamer: so i should do apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 05:58.09 | jetscreamer | mackss: yes you should try it imo |
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| 05:58.35 | jetscreamer | mackss: make that aptitude dist-upgrade eh |
| 05:59.25 | mackss | ok i am going to try this tomorrow |
| 05:59.28 | mackss | it all scares me |
| 05:59.31 | mackss | :-( |
| 05:59.51 | mackss | thank you for the help Supaplex and jetscreamer |
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| 06:05.05 | noob | sorry but i still have the time problem (after every reboot time is off by 2h 1 day) i found out about hwclock but that will give me an error elect() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out |
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| 06:06.31 | Seb | are there any VRML plugins for firefox packaged by debian ? |
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| 06:12.49 | zinx | Seb: the 90s called, they want their 3d markup language back |
| 06:13.24 | zinx | Seb: there are viewers :/ |
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| 06:17.01 | ComradeHaz | hmm |
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| 06:20.19 | hon | normally, ssh HOST COMMAND runs COMMAND without a terminal. Is there a way to run a command in a terminal over ssh? (does ssh have a --use-terminal-emulator option?) |
| 06:20.39 | dserban | any chance that /etc/init.d/gdm and /etc/init.d/splashy bash scripts could be some how cross-linked? ie.... or... meh... When /etc/init.d/gdm start is called... it returns back to the command line ... and does nothing... gdm isn't even called... it just says it's starting it... throws a dot in there and the prompt is shown after the dot... |
| 06:20.55 | Seb | hon: -t ? |
| 06:21.32 | Seb | dserban: "bash -x /etc/init.d/gdm start", and see why it's not running it |
| 06:21.34 | dserban | running the script under -x and -xv shows it running some parts of /etc/init.d/splashy also shows it sourcing /lib/lsb/init-functions and calling the log_* functions which don't seem related to splashy whatsoever... |
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| 06:22.21 | dserban | Seb, http://pastebin.ca/894731 |
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| 06:22.33 | dserban | that's sh -x /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 06:22.39 | hon | Seb: thanks. for some reason that bit never caught my attention. |
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| 06:24.27 | noob | my bios time is right and hwclock --directisa gives me the right time but while boot i get the error can;t set sys time to (wrong time) and in X i have the wrong time ... please help |
| 06:25.45 | Jygzygyzel | so hey modifying TCP packets realtime? |
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| 06:26.22 | dserban | Ehh... does anyone know? |
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| 06:27.13 | moshii | Jygzygyzel: is that a question of some sort? |
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| 06:29.14 | hon | is there a packaged emacs trunk in debian unstable? |
| 06:29.28 | hon | (is emacs-snapshot still orphaned?) |
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| 06:30.42 | Jygzygyzel | moshii yes |
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| 06:32.04 | moshii | then you problably want some sort of libpcap based thing |
| 06:32.35 | hon | also, is there a snapshot package of firefox3 somewhere in debian? |
| 06:32.53 | moshii | hon: packages.debian.org |
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| 06:36.50 | hon | moshii: thanks for the effort. I have already checked there. |
| 06:37.45 | moshii | hon: if it's not there your answer is no |
| 06:37.49 | hon | there are a few *third party* places that I don't know of. |
| 06:38.04 | moshii | hon: google <what you want> debian |
| 06:38.16 | hon | thought someone in this channel might already be using one. |
| 06:38.48 | bohsain | when the debian been unactive and then reactive, the bluetooth mouse been disconnected, is there any solution? |
| 06:38.52 | moshii | if it's a snapshot theres nothing wrong with building it manually in /usr/local/ either |
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| 06:42.00 | hon | moshii: I do that on a daily basis. Before actually learning deb packaging (which I plan to do, anyways) I need to put some new snapshot stuff on a few machines. So, in the mean-time I think I can use a snapshot unofficial package if some people are actually using such. |
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| 06:42.49 | moshii | hon: if the source it's too far from what is in debian you can update the packages with uupdate very easily :) |
| 06:43.02 | moshii | hon: s/it's/isn't |
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| 06:44.16 | hon | is gitpkg actually taking off? |
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| 06:45.28 | Zoup | Hi : )got this problem when trying to reinstall all packages with aptitute : Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for dpkg |
| 06:45.33 | hon | sorry, should've asked in -devel |
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| 06:46.15 | moshii | hon: the emacs-snapshot git looks active, last commit 44hours ago ;) |
| 06:46.38 | moshii | Zoup: why are you reinstalling everything? |
| 06:46.57 | Zoup | moshii: nearly lost all symbolic links nearly |
| 06:47.12 | hon | what is emacs-snapshot git? |
| 06:47.29 | moshii | hon: http://git.debian.org/?p=users/rfrancoise/emacs-snapshot.git |
| 06:48.03 | hon | moshii: thanks a lot. |
| 06:48.06 | hon | oh! |
| 06:48.14 | hon | what is git.debian.org? |
| 06:48.21 | hon | is it actually happening? |
| 06:48.58 | hon | wow! |
| 06:49.25 | Zoup | moshii: any idea ? :) |
| 06:49.29 | moshii | there's svn too |
| 06:49.45 | hon | svn doesn't cut it ;) |
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| 06:50.10 | moshii | Zoup: What links went missing/why? |
| 06:50.20 | Zoup | moshii: all of them , due some bug in 'tar' |
| 06:50.39 | moshii | ah, broken backup |
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| 06:51.00 | Zoup | moshii: indeed , links turn into zero size files , tar maintainer has no idea |
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| 06:52.26 | moshii | Zoup: have you tried with aptitude or apt-get? |
| 06:52.37 | Zoup | moshii: both |
| 06:52.39 | Zoup | moshii: same error |
| 06:54.32 | snogglethorpe | ñ |
| 06:54.35 | moshii | Zoup: just a sec, checking something :) |
| 06:55.28 | Zoup | moshii: thanks :) |
| 06:55.59 | moshii | Zoup: have you tried reinstalling coreutils directly with dpkg |
| 06:56.19 | Zoup | moshii: dpkg -i ? |
| 06:56.27 | moshii | Zoup: pass the predends to dpkg at the same time |
| 06:56.59 | moshii | Zoup: yeah, dpkg -i coreutils.deb predepnds.deb |
| 06:57.20 | Zoup | moshii: sure give me a sec |
| 06:58.16 | moshii | Zoup: you can find the download packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ :) |
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| 07:00.01 | hon | is there a "nightly-build" against git.debian.org or do I have to build on my own? |
| 07:01.12 | moshii | hon: you might find the dd keeps builds somewhere, usually on there debian.org/people thingy |
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| 07:02.09 | moshii | s/there/their/ |
| 07:03.09 | hon | I am afraid git.debian.org leaves me no excuse for not learning (and doing) packaging. My boss will kill me just because of you guys! |
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| 07:04.32 | moshii | !newmaintainer |
| 07:04.43 | moshii | mmm I thought that was it |
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| 07:05.15 | moshii | hon: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ :) |
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| 07:09.29 | Zoup | moshii: bah :( didnt help |
| 07:09.47 | Zoup | moshii: there wasnt any predepends.deb there as well |
| 07:10.27 | moshii | Zoup: by predepends.deb I meant the packages dpkg is saying it needs as pre-depends |
| 07:10.51 | Zoup | moshii: lol im noob! |
| 07:11.10 | moshii | Zoup: I think your coreutils wants dpkg too? so if you pass the debs for both dpkg will realise that and let coreutils install |
| 07:12.14 | simonrvn | !nmg |
| 07:12.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, nmg is Debian New Maintainers' Guide, Debian Policy Manual and Debian Developer's Reference are the documents you need to read, in that order, to make packages for the Debian project. http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
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| 07:16.02 | Zoup | moshii: well , installed all predepends with -i as well , still the same error , shall i go with dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/* ? |
| 07:16.32 | moshii | Zoup: try with the pre-depended package first |
| 07:16.51 | Zoup | moshii: already did , didnt help |
| 07:17.21 | moshii | mm doing that mass dpkg -i might break stuff ;) |
| 07:17.41 | Zoup | moshii: can this mess get ever more broken ? :)) |
| 07:17.43 | moshii | Zoup: does dpkg install properly? |
| 07:17.52 | Zoup | moshii: yes |
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| 07:19.34 | tralala | I want to build only one package from a source that creates multiple packages. Can I do that? |
| 07:20.03 | moshii | Zoup: what is the error coming out of dpkg? is it still about dpkg missing? |
| 07:20.29 | Zoup | moshii: it does install properly anything |
| 07:20.47 | Zoup | moshii: no error out of dpkg |
| 07:21.21 | moshii | Zoup: what about coreutils? |
| 07:21.30 | moshii | tralala: more /usr/share/doc/debhelper/examples/rules.multi2 |
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| 07:21.59 | Zoup | moshii: same , no error |
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| 07:22.36 | moshii | Zoup: can you paste the error? I can't find it in my scroll back |
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| 07:26.21 | tralala | thanks, moshii |
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| 07:28.52 | freezer | hi |
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| 07:29.05 | freezer | how to apply a bzip2 patch? |
| 07:29.09 | Zoup | moshii: sure w8 |
| 07:29.44 | Zoup | moshii: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for dpkg, probably a dependency cycle. |
| 07:30.00 | freezer | bunzip2 patch.bzip2 > patch -p1? |
| 07:30.02 | moshii | freezer: a patch that is bzipped? |
| 07:30.07 | freezer | yes |
| 07:30.41 | moshii | bzcat <file> | patch -p1 maybe |
| 07:31.14 | cafuego | Yes |
| 07:31.17 | moshii | Zoup: I think the problem is that coreutils requires dpkg and dpkg requires coreutils |
| 07:31.44 | moshii | Zoup: but that should work as you have dpkg installed :/ |
| 07:31.44 | Zoup | moshii: lol , shall i remove coreutils then ? |
| 07:31.49 | simonrvn | dpkg -i coreutils_*.deb dpkg_*.deb |
| 07:31.59 | simonrvn | dpkg: thank you |
| 07:31.59 | dpkg | simonrvn: pas de quoi |
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| 07:32.20 | Zoup | good idea |
| 07:32.25 | liable | cafuego: how did linuxconf.au go? |
| 07:32.26 | moshii | yeah :) |
| 07:32.42 | simonrvn | ummm, you didn't think of that before? |
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| 07:33.08 | moshii | simonrvn: been a long time since I've broken a box that badly |
| 07:33.33 | simonrvn | that's not broken ;). you haven't seen broken then ;) |
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| 07:33.51 | cafuego | liable: from what i hear it all went pretty well |
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| 07:34.12 | cafuego | liable: only 2 fire alarms (1 evacuation) and 2 hospitalisations that i know of |
| 07:34.20 | moshii | mm the only machine I've really broken properly was running solaris |
| 07:34.41 | liable | hah |
| 07:34.50 | moshii | running the output of ld <some binary> is not a good idea hehe |
| 07:34.58 | cafuego | and i think all video is online by now |
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| 07:42.55 | andrboot | Hey guys.. well apache/php is working.. but it turns out mysql is screwed up :) rofl.. the "confmiss" option isn't owrking either.. |
| 07:44.32 | andrboot | mysql no longer can see /var/lib/mysql or recreate it... or even "start" before. |
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| 07:44.52 | ^shark_ | hi guys i am running etch & i am also trying to generate an openssl crl file but i am getting this error >> http://internetworkpro.org/pastebin/1805 |
| 07:44.55 | ^shark_ | can you help? |
| 07:45.44 | liable | andrboot: what did you do to /var/lib/mysql? |
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| 07:46.15 | andrboot | @ liable rm mysql -Rf.. because of some other stuff i did to it :p |
| 07:46.28 | liable | oh dear |
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| 07:46.57 | liable | reinstalling it should put the /var stuff back though |
| 07:46.58 | andrboot | @ liable well.. it didn't exactly like my "old" mysql data format from my gentoo installl.; and reinstalling doesnt.. |
| 07:46.58 | andrboot | i had the same problem with apache. |
| 07:46.58 | andrboot | *apache2 |
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| 07:47.28 | ^shark_ | some one help me with this error i am getting >> http://internetworkpro.org/pastebin/1805 |
| 07:47.49 | liable | andrboot: is the dir even there? if not make it and run with confmiss again |
| 07:48.02 | andrboot | @ liable ran it 3 times. |
| 07:48.06 | andrboot | does nothing. |
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| 07:48.13 | andrboot | hmm. i dunno |
| 07:48.14 | liable | andrboot: is the dir there though? |
| 07:48.16 | andrboot | i guessed. |
| 07:48.21 | andrboot | nope :) |
| 07:48.28 | liable | make the dir as i said |
| 07:48.29 | andrboot | actually.. i might |
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| 07:49.10 | andrboot | woops. |
| 07:49.12 | andrboot | lol. |
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| 07:49.51 | ^shark_ | solved! |
| 07:50.02 | enouf | dirmngr? |
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| 07:50.44 | andrboot | rofl @ liable .. i think im getting to tired for this crap.. i forgot i made a backup of the folder before i played iwth it. |
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| 07:50.48 | andrboot | lets see if m ysql wants to play ball |
| 07:51.11 | andrboot | rofl. |
| 07:51.23 | andrboot | ook.. now ti "import" db |
| 07:51.24 | liberion | hey guys where is a repo for e17 for unstable ive been looking for a couple of hours now |
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| 07:51.50 | liable | you inhaling nitrous or something? :P |
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| 07:52.39 | wols_ | !e17 |
| 07:52.40 | dpkg | Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17 |
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| 07:54.11 | andrboot | BULL YA |
| 07:54.11 | liberion | !e17 |
| 07:54.11 | dpkg | Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17 |
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| 07:54.19 | liberion | see DR17 |
| 07:54.51 | ^shark_ | !msg crl.pem |
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| 08:04.44 | rocketmagnet | good morning, does somone know a good tool for converting .vob into divx/xdiv so a dvd fits on a normal cd |
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| 08:05.25 | Speedism | doop9.org ? |
| 08:05.29 | Speedism | doom9.org ? |
| 08:05.35 | Speedism | grrr |
| 08:05.39 | Speedism | doom8.com |
| 08:05.40 | Speedism | or w/e |
| 08:07.11 | freezer | doom9.org |
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| 08:07.46 | marckie | hello guys: i am having problems with pam authentication. i have "files nis vas3" on my nsswitch.conf but when try and log on into my machine via nis, pam is giving me a vas error. any ideas? im working on this for 3 hours now, still i dont have any lead :( |
| 08:07.48 | marckie | http://pastebin.ca/894778 |
| 08:07.59 | enouf | rocketmagnet: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/DVD9_to_DVD5_guide |
| 08:08.03 | freezer | rocketmagnet: ProjectX |
| 08:10.19 | enouf | Project X is an open source project for educational purposes and testing. It is written in Java <-- eww |
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| 08:12.42 | liable | rocketmagnet: i think i use dvd::rip iirc |
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| 08:12.48 | liable | been a while |
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| 08:19.50 | Knight_Lord | How can I return the 3rd word in a line with a shell script? |
| 08:21.36 | js_ | awk '{print $3}' |
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| 08:31.25 | erik2 | synaptic automatically updates my computer. But I have had some serious problems after it had 'updated' the kernel. Can I exclude kernel update from the workings of sysnaptic ? |
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| 08:34.22 | liable | erik2: remove the meta package that automatically upgrades kernels |
| 08:34.33 | liable | erik2: though you should check the bts |
| 08:35.36 | erik2 | liable: where are those meta packs ? |
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| 08:35.55 | liable | erik2: probably linux-image-2.6-686 or similar |
| 08:36.02 | erik2 | ok |
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| 08:40.01 | ^shark_ | hi guys -- how do i install and configure openssl |
| 08:40.10 | ^shark_ | any guides..? |
| 08:40.57 | liable | you just install it with apt-get |
| 08:41.02 | wols_ | apt-get install <...> |
| 08:41.20 | wols_ | I never had to install it manually even, usually it gets installed as part of ssh |
| 08:41.29 | wols_ | could even be in base by now |
| 08:41.47 | ^shark_ | i also need to configure it for a CA |
| 08:42.13 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.19 | wols_ | for what client app/protocol? |
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| 08:42.53 | ^shark_ | i am trying to install a vpn solution |
| 08:43.26 | Caelum | how can adding an IP alias to a machine make it unreachable to the network? |
| 08:44.06 | liable | meh, fglrx devs cant do anything fucking right |
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| 08:44.20 | Caelum | fglrx is horrible |
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| 08:45.11 | liable | indeed, but i try it every few months to see if they have gotten their act together |
| 08:46.09 | Caelum | I spent many hours trying to figure out why it was corrupting my screen, until I found the binary patch some kind soul put in the BTS |
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| 08:51.03 | Nyle | hm |
| 08:51.05 | Nyle | why? |
| 08:51.23 | Nyle | I would spend not many hours but only half or at most 1 |
| 08:51.42 | Caelum | fglrx is the only thing that works on my card |
| 08:51.47 | Nyle | same here |
| 08:51.52 | Nyle | which card did you buy? |
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| 08:52.40 | Nyle | fglrx works great here |
| 08:52.44 | Caelum | I don't remember, some low form factor dual-head dvi one |
| 08:52.45 | Nyle | I'm still using the wonder driver |
| 08:52.52 | Nyle | 8.42.3 with aiglx |
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| 08:53.13 | Nyle | I have debian sid, compiz confusion built from git, and fglrx 8.42.3 and it is 110% stable |
| 08:53.31 | Caelum | getting xinerama to work was a PITA too, because of course fglrx uses completely non-standard options to configure that stuff |
| 08:53.47 | Nyle | Caelum: the ATI big desktop, kills refresh rates |
| 08:53.51 | Nyle | same as twinview |
| 08:54.58 | Nyle | oh boy |
| 08:55.05 | Nyle | learn a thing or two |
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| 08:55.31 | Nyle | its a piece of cake, just use ati driver installer from ati.amd.com alongside module-assistant |
| 08:55.48 | Caelum | sure, if it fucking works |
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| 08:56.22 | Nyle | tell the ati driver .run file to generate (--buildpkg Debian/sid), which will result in a few debs of the fglrx kernel source etc. |
| 08:56.36 | Nyle | install em, and tell module assistant to build fglrx |
| 08:56.55 | Nyle | it ALWAYS works, at least forme, than again I'm not a moron and I can read *or think* |
| 08:56.58 | Caelum | I'm sure there was nothing wrong with the packages in sid, they just did not fucking work on my setup, so I had to downgrade |
| 08:57.11 | Caelum | I'm not a moron, thanks |
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| 08:57.21 | Nyle | I didn't call anyone any names :) |
| 08:57.23 | enouf | bongo |
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| 08:57.45 | Nyle | enouf: bongo? |
| 08:57.46 | enouf | mania |
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| 08:57.50 | Nyle | mania |
| 08:57.53 | Nyle | bongomania |
| 08:57.59 | enouf | bingo |
| 08:58.12 | Nyle | thats a grandma game |
| 08:58.28 | Nyle | bee eye en gee oh |
| 08:58.49 | Caelum | Nyle: I have an RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] according to lspci |
| 08:58.58 | enouf | without your grandma you'd be food for flagellen in some cesspool |
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| 08:59.31 | ^shark_ | ok i apr-get remove openssl and all its files i deleted them manually -- i later apt-get install openssl but openssl.cnf was not re-installed, how do i get this back? |
| 08:59.51 | enouf | omg |
| 09:00.07 | Caelum | ^shark_: don't delete files manually, use dpkg --purge |
| 09:00.12 | enouf | do /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 09:00.29 | enouf | and next time use --purge |
| 09:00.47 | ^shark_ | msg dpkg confmiss |
| 09:00.51 | ghetto | how can i install windows services on debian, and the internet explorer 7 with the microsoft silverligh |
| 09:01.22 | Nyle | why not just run windows/ |
| 09:01.45 | ghetto | dont know how to use it |
| 09:01.49 | ghetto | always used mac |
| 09:01.49 | Caelum | Nyle: those are what is known as trolls |
| 09:02.15 | Caelum | it's not sunday yet |
| 09:02.40 | neosix | hello! |
| 09:02.45 | Nyle | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:03.44 | ghetto | wich is the best messenger program to linux |
| 09:03.45 | gordonjcp | ghetto: ies4linux? |
| 09:03.59 | gordonjcp | ghetto: "best" is a difficult question to answer |
| 09:04.01 | Caelum | ies4linux won't run 7 |
| 09:04.06 | ghetto | i was joking, love firefox :D |
| 09:04.08 | gordonjcp | Caelum: O RLY? |
| 09:04.09 | bohsain | does apple's bluetooth or usb keyboard works under linux? |
| 09:04.19 | gordonjcp | bohsain: should do |
| 09:04.36 | gordonjcp | if it just presents as a bog-standard HID interface, yes |
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| 09:04.52 | gordonjcp | ghetto: pidgin works well for me, even in KDE |
| 09:05.09 | ghetto | everyone tells me that podgin sucks |
| 09:05.11 | ghetto | :) |
| 09:05.14 | ghetto | no offense |
| 09:05.15 | gordonjcp | ghetto: otoh if you're using KDE, you might be better with Kopete |
| 09:05.19 | gordonjcp | <shrug> |
| 09:05.22 | gordonjcp | works for me |
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| 09:05.27 | gordonjcp | "sucks" is a bit subjective |
| 09:05.32 | ghetto | what abou emsn |
| 09:05.38 | ghetto | emsesne |
| 09:05.39 | gordonjcp | never tried it |
| 09:05.43 | ghetto | somthing like that |
| 09:05.48 | ghetto | ok |
| 09:06.08 | gordonjcp | I mostly use yahoo messenger and jabber, with a few MSN contacts, so both pidgin and kopete are a good fit |
| 09:06.48 | Caelum | there's that irc gateway thing, can't remember the name |
| 09:06.54 | Caelum | bitlbee |
| 09:07.06 | gordonjcp | yeah, if you use irssi and screen it's pretty good |
| 09:07.32 | SpeedyG | unless you've got a girlfriend who wants to webcam with you, or classmates that want to send you files |
| 09:07.41 | ghetto | FAIL |
| 09:07.49 | SpeedyG | (and demand it that you do it through msn :( ) |
| 09:08.19 | ghetto | will microsoft ever launch a windows under linux? |
| 09:08.27 | Caelum | no |
| 09:08.31 | ghetto | why |
| 09:08.32 | SpeedyG | there's windows under linux... X-windows :D |
| 09:08.33 | gordonjcp | ghetto: you mean Windows based on Linux? Unlikely |
| 09:08.46 | gordonjcp | ghetto: BSD though, now that's a different story |
| 09:08.57 | Caelum | all the windows stuff I need runs under either wine or crossover |
| 09:09.21 | ghetto | i mean will microsoft ever release an OS under linux |
| 09:09.26 | ghetto | based on linux |
| 09:09.27 | gordonjcp | I think I use one bit of windows software, the software for my (cheap and crappy) EPROM programmer |
| 09:09.28 | Caelum | word, visio, outlook, ie6, etc. all work |
| 09:09.42 | gordonjcp | ghetto: yes, that's fairly unlikely for licensing reasons |
| 09:09.54 | gordonjcp | I mean, never say never |
| 09:09.58 | gordonjcp | but I can't see it |
| 09:10.20 | ghetto | but isnt linux free to change, microsoft can adopt it and create whatever they want, isnt it like that |
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| 09:10.39 | Caelum | wtf, please stop feeding the trolls. KTHX |
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| 09:10.44 | gordonjcp | ghetto: Microsoft wouldn't want to use the licensing terms |
| 09:10.52 | ghetto | Caelum hack my cock sucker |
| 09:10.59 | EruditeHermit | hi, is there anything you need to do after installing openssh-server to setup sshd in debian? |
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| 09:11.13 | SpeedyG | EruditeHermit: nope |
| 09:11.13 | gordonjcp | ghetto: I can see them basing a version of Windows on (say) FreeBSD |
| 09:11.23 | gordonjcp | EruditeHermit: should "Just Work (tm)" |
| 09:11.36 | Caelum | ghetto: sure, with a hacksaw |
| 09:11.41 | ghetto | freebsd and linux are two different things then |
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| 09:12.08 | gordonjcp | ghetto: perhaps they'd release an OS with a closed-source desktop environment, a FreeBSD userland toolset and a Mach kernel |
| 09:12.33 | ghetto | wow didnt understood shit :D |
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| 09:12.46 | gordonjcp | ghetto: look at Mac OSX |
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| 09:13.24 | ghetto | and then |
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| 09:14.22 | ^shark_ | enouf: i have googled but have not got anything with confmiss .. kindly, what is the command to fix my config file for openssl |
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| 09:15.26 | ghetto | try here |
| 09:15.36 | ghetto | http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971 |
| 09:15.41 | ghetto | ROFLCOPTER |
| 09:15.42 | EruditeHermit | SpeedyG: gordonjcp any suggestions as to why its not connecting straight up? any debugging suggestions? |
| 09:17.07 | enouf | !tell ^shark_ -about confmiss |
| 09:17.18 | enouf | !tell ^shark_ -about selftell |
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| 09:18.12 | enouf | and take that stupid ^ off the front of your nick |
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| 09:18.47 | ghetto | ^shark_ try here http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971 |
| 09:18.48 | gordonjcp | EruditeHermit: I don't know what the problem is |
| 09:18.50 | ghetto | ROFLCOPTER |
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| 09:19.11 | SpeedyG | EruditeHermit: how are you testing it? |
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| 09:19.50 | ghetto | EruditeHermit u may want to check in here |
| 09:19.51 | ghetto | http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971 |
| 09:19.53 | ghetto | ROFLCOPTER |
| 09:20.22 | gordonjcp | ghetto: grow up |
| 09:20.44 | ghetto | sorry i dissapointed u gordonjcp |
| 09:20.45 | ghetto | :( |
| 09:20.48 | EruditeHermit | SpeedyG: trying to connect from one device to another using ssh user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
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| 09:20.58 | Shnoodle | why does the title say "THIS IS NOT #ubuntu"? I find this humorous because it's true on so many levels. Is there a real reason for it though? |
| 09:21.16 | ghetto | Shnoodle try here |
| 09:21.17 | ghetto | http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971 |
| 09:21.21 | ghetto | ROFLCOPTER |
| 09:21.21 | Kevin` | Shnoodle people ask questions about problems in ubuntu |
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| 09:21.39 | gordonjcp | Shnoodle: there are specific ubuntu channels ;-) |
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| 09:22.04 | SpeedyG | ghetto: please, stop the microsoft.com spam |
| 09:22.18 | Shnoodle | Oh I thought some Ubuntu message boards started directing traffic here or something |
| 09:22.19 | ghetto | SpeedyG LOL |
| 09:22.36 | ghetto | but microsoft pays me for this spamming, what should i do then |
| 09:22.37 | ghetto | :( |
| 09:22.57 | SpeedyG | ghetto: either stop it, or start doing it in #imaspammerthatsbored |
| 09:22.57 | jelly-home | ghetto: do you have a debian question? |
| 09:23.12 | ghetto | i had one |
| 09:23.12 | gordonjcp | you know, /ignore works pretty well too |
| 09:23.26 | ghetto | for ignore u guys should try here |
| 09:23.27 | ghetto | http://support.microsoft.com/ph/2971 |
| 09:23.29 | SpeedyG | EruditeHermit: does it give any errors ? |
| 09:23.29 | ghetto | ROFLCOPTER |
| 09:23.30 | SpeedyG | !ops ghetto microsoft.com spammer useless anoying |
| 09:23.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: speedyg complains about: ghetto microsoft.com spammer useless anoying |
| 09:23.52 | EruditeHermit | SpeedyG: it just waits and waits |
| 09:24.03 | SpeedyG | EruditeHermit: anything in the logs of the serverbox ? |
| 09:24.12 | EruditeHermit | let me check |
| 09:24.13 | gordonjcp | EruditeHermit: have you tried upping the verbosity? |
| 09:24.29 | gordonjcp | EruditeHermit: perhaps connecting to it with "ssh -v <host>" |
| 09:24.40 | gordonjcp | EruditeHermit: or, y'know, more v's for more verbosity ;-) |
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| 09:24.58 | ghetto | LOLCOPTER |
| 09:25.02 | ghetto | LMAOCOPTER |
| 09:25.10 | EruditeHermit | SpeedyG: where are the logs |
| 09:25.15 | EruditeHermit | gordonjcp: I'll try that too |
| 09:25.29 | ghetto | u may want to chek out here EruditeHermit www.adobe.com/windows |
| 09:25.33 | ghetto | ROFLOPTER |
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| 09:26.29 | EruditeHermit | ghetto: its just waiting at connecting to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port 22 |
| 09:26.53 | gordonjcp | EruditeHermit: so it never even connects? |
| 09:26.59 | EruditeHermit | gordonjcp: nope |
| 09:27.10 | EruditeHermit | where are hte logs? |
| 09:27.16 | EruditeHermit | I don't see a log file in /var/log |
| 09:27.21 | ghetto | im gonna go anyway |
| 09:27.25 | ghetto | see ya guys later |
| 09:27.30 | ghetto | ROFLCOPTER |
| 09:27.43 | gordonjcp | EruditeHermit: hmm |
| 09:27.54 | gordonjcp | silly question, but is openssh actually running? |
| 09:28.01 | EruditeHermit | ps -A says so |
| 09:28.12 | EruditeHermit | sshd is running |
| 09:28.32 | gordonjcp | does nmap say it's got a port open? |
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| 09:28.42 | EruditeHermit | gordonjcp: yep it does |
| 09:28.53 | gordonjcp | hmm |
| 09:28.56 | Shnoodle | netstat -a | grep sshd says 0.0.0.0? |
| 09:29.34 | EruditeHermit | Shnoodle: it doesn't return anything |
| 09:29.35 | Shnoodle | ahh, well nmap doesn't lie |
| 09:29.42 | EruditeHermit | Shnoodle: just goes back to the prompt |
| 09:29.54 | Shnoodle | netstat -a, grep with eyeballs |
| 09:29.59 | gordonjcp | but then again, netstat -a | grep sshd says nothing on mine either ;-) |
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| 09:31.02 | EruditeHermit | Shnoodle: nothing there |
| 09:31.32 | gordonjcp | try netstat -a | grep ssh |
| 09:31.39 | gordonjcp | note "ssh" not "sshd" |
| 09:31.44 | carl | hi guys, what is the easiest way to have my nvidia drivers up to date? i dont really care if its the latest version, but i have failed to get the ones from the nvidia page to install under either 22.3 or 23.whatever the sid version is. I have the nvidia installer ones working under 22.2 but id rather use apt to make sure that i have working drivers |
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| 09:32.05 | carl | i am running lenny btw |
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| 09:33.16 | EruditeHermit | gordonjcp: it says that some things are LISTENING |
| 09:33.27 | gordonjcp | this is good |
| 09:33.38 | gordonjcp | can you even ping the box? |
| 09:33.45 | gordonjcp | I mean, first things first eh |
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| 09:33.52 | gordonjcp | also, try restarting openssh |
| 09:34.10 | EruditeHermit | gordonjcp: I did |
| 09:34.19 | EruditeHermit | gordonjcp: let me try pinging |
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| 09:35.36 | Shnoodle | gordonjcp: nmap said TCP 22 was open already, ICMP traffic might be blocked |
| 09:35.53 | EruditeHermit | gordonjcp: its not pingable |
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| 09:35.58 | gordonjcp | Shnoodle: weird |
| 09:36.00 | gordonjcp | EruditeHermit: weird |
| 09:36.17 | gordonjcp | Shnoodle: if ICMP traffic is blocked, then something is broken |
| 09:36.25 | yopyop | hello, im using sid, since a week, mplayer, xine, xmms segfault when im running them, the gnome mixer applet segfault too, but i can run aumix, kmixer, etc. any idea how to solve that ? |
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| 09:36.43 | Shnoodle | firewall there EruditeHermit? |
| 09:36.56 | EruditeHermit | Shnoodle: not that I am aware of |
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| 09:37.49 | fengor | gordonjcp: if ICMP traffic is blocked its not necessarily broken. it just might be blocked |
| 09:37.54 | Shnoodle | EruditeHermit: sorry, just got into this problem, is ifconfig and route set up alright there on the server machine? |
| 09:38.31 | Shnoodle | EruditeHermit: like, can you ping that machine from the server? |
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| 09:39.01 | gordonjcp | fengor: well, on the basis that blocking ICMP traffic breaks your network, yes, it's broken |
| 09:39.02 | EruditeHermit | Shnoodle: I can log in via ssh the other way |
| 09:39.32 | EruditeHermit | Shnoodle: both route and ifconfig work |
| 09:39.32 | fengor | tdont see how blocking icmp ping requests does that gordonjcp |
| 09:39.45 | ghetto | EruditeHermit u may wanna check www.youporn.com/linux-doublep-windowsvista |
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| 09:39.52 | gordonjcp | fengor: in much the same way as removing the driveshafts from your car breaks it |
| 09:39.54 | ghetto | ROFLCOPTER |
| 09:39.59 | gordonjcp | fengor: ICMP is there for a reason |
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| 09:40.25 | fengor | gordonjcp: there are several servers out there on the net who block icmp ping requests for a reason and they funciton just fine |
| 09:40.30 | ghetto | ROFLMAOCOPTER |
| 09:40.36 | ghetto | thats as much u can get |
| 09:40.36 | Shnoodle | gordonjcp: i agree, most ICMP is there for a reason, but some overzealous firewalls block it all |
| 09:40.41 | ghetto | a ROFLMAOCOPTEr |
| 09:40.44 | ghetto | hahahhaa |
| 09:40.47 | gordonjcp | fengor: mostly by chance |
| 09:40.56 | fengor | i dont think so gordonjcp |
| 09:41.05 | ghetto | u guys are laughing hard with my spamming |
| 09:41.05 | gordonjcp | fengor: <shrug> |
| 09:41.06 | ghetto | XD |
| 09:41.11 | gordonjcp | fengor: think what you like ;-) |
| 09:41.47 | fengor | yeah, i think we will have to agree to disagree on that matter gordonjcp ;) |
| 09:41.50 | EruditeHermit | well I have to sleep now |
| 09:41.56 | EruditeHermit | thanks for helping guys |
| 09:41.58 | fengor | btw ghetto *plonk* |
| 09:42.05 | Shnoodle | EruditeHermit: goodnight, gl on it tomorrow |
| 09:42.05 | EruditeHermit | I'll work on it tomorrow again |
| 09:42.10 | EruditeHermit | thanks |
| 09:42.11 | gordonjcp | fengor: is he still at it? |
| 09:42.15 | EruditeHermit | take care guys |
| 09:42.16 | EruditeHermit | gnight |
| 09:42.19 | fengor | yes gordon |
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| 09:42.55 | ghetto | fengor u really should try www.suckghettosdick.com/ssupportwindows |
| 09:42.58 | ghetto | ROFLTIME |
| 09:43.00 | ghetto | ROFLCOPTER |
| 09:43.03 | ghetto | ROFLMAOCOPTER |
| 09:43.10 | ghetto | IM A MACHINE BABY |
| 09:43.46 | Shnoodle | gordonjcp: well since our main topic just went to bed, how does one need ICMP? I thought it was mainly for trivial things, which is why most routers give it little priority |
| 09:44.09 | gordonjcp | Shnoodle: mostly it's for traffic management |
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| 09:44.37 | gordonjcp | Shnoodle: it's not *massively* important, but you'd miss it if it was gone ;-) |
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| 09:45.59 | amax | hello all. help me plz! how can I disable KDE Crash dialog? one app segfaulting on exit, but I want only disable this dialog.. is it possbile ? |
| 09:46.01 | gordonjcp | Shnoodle: in particular, dropping ICMP on the floor means you don't hear any "destination unreachable" packets |
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| 09:47.17 | Shnoodle | gordonjcp: just read up the wikipedia page |
| 09:47.24 | gordonjcp | amax: my first thought would be to point /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern at something else |
| 09:48.10 | gordonjcp | amax: if you don't know what that means, proceed carefully and read everything twice |
| 09:48.11 | Shnoodle | gordonjcp: TCP unreachables respond with TCP it says |
| 09:48.25 | amax | hm... |
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| 09:48.41 | amax | core_pattern=core |
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| 09:50.22 | amax | gordonjcp: I only wish disable dialog and nothing more... if there exists any settings.. |
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| 09:51.47 | ustunozgur | what is bind9 used for? as far as I understand, I can use it to create subdomains from my domain , right? so for example if I have a hostname ustun.ee.bilkent.edu.tr I can use it to create sites like abc.ustun.ee.bilkent.edu.tr etc , right? would I need other dns server to update or would the change be immediately observed? |
| 09:51.53 | Shnoodle | gordonjcp: okay, ICMP type 8 (echo requests) are for ping and traceroute. other than that I don't see why anything besides an intermediate router needs that kind of traffic |
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| 09:52.15 | gordonjcp | Shnoodle: I don't see where it says that... |
| 09:52.18 | ustunozgur | i.e. when would opendns for example know about that machine? |
| 09:53.10 | Shnoodle | ustunozgur; DNS servers are a full time job |
| 09:54.01 | Shnoodle | gordonjcp; says ping and traceroute use "type 8" which is an echo request... |
| 09:54.37 | jelly-home | ustunozgur: bind is a general purpose DNS server. It can be a primary server, or a secondary one. It can push the zone data to the secondary servers when they get updated, or the secondaries can poll it themselves every now and then. It all depends on your configuration. |
| 09:54.53 | Shnoodle | gordonjcp; and in the 'ICMP_destination unreachable' page it says TCP packets get the TCP response usually |
| 09:54.58 | ustunozgur | Shnoodle: yes and I read that even most network admins don't fully understand it, but what I want is something basic :) I installed ispconfig on the machine too so that it could serve multiple sites. |
| 09:55.56 | ustunozgur | jelly-home: hmm so it doesn't work like opendns goes and asks ustun.ee.bilkent.edu.tr "where is abc.ustun.ee.bilkent.edu.tr?" |
| 09:56.16 | jelly-home | ustunozgur: you want a nice book on how DNS works. |
| 09:56.30 | ustunozgur | jelly-home: anyway, |
| 09:56.33 | Shnoodle | ustunozgur: bind is hardcore industrial DNS |
| 09:56.37 | ustunozgur | I guess this is too hard for me :) |
| 09:56.49 | ustunozgur | I will just ask the system admin then |
| 09:57.07 | Shnoodle | ustunozgur: you can do it, but you'll need to keep on it all day long |
| 09:57.33 | jelly-home | ustunozgur: it's yet another service. Not extermely hard, but you'll spend a day or a week to figure it out |
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| 09:57.44 | Shnoodle | ahh, domain names can be bought too btw ;) |
| 09:57.52 | ustunozgur | ok, what I needed what a way so that I could easily add sites without nagging the sys admin. I am just a researcher assistant |
| 09:58.00 | ustunozgur | ok |
| 09:58.29 | ustunozgur | Shnoodle: in fact, i have tried that with a domain from no-ip.org and ispconfig site worked with it perfectly, :) |
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| 09:58.35 | vampirefrog | hi guys. how can I make konqueror use ftps? |
| 09:58.45 | vampirefrog | I need to login to a ftp site which uses AUTH TLS |
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| 09:58.57 | Shnoodle | ustunozgur: oh okay, you're in an orginization with a DNS server, better ask him anyhow :D |
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| 10:00.07 | ustunozgur | Shnoodle: one more thing, if you are familiar with ispconfig. currently it requires a different domain name for each site I create. Is this the way it is supposed to work? Or can I create sites like ustun.ee.billkent.edu.tr/site1 etc with it? |
| 10:01.06 | Shnoodle | ustunozgur: hang on |
| 10:01.20 | psycodad | a user of mine is running a cronjob with php like php5 ./bin/cron.php 2>&1 >/dev/null, however the error message from php still gets mailed, how can i avoid this ? |
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| 10:01.56 | psycodad | even if i run the command in a shell i get the output not redirected to /dev/null.. |
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| 10:03.57 | jelly-home | psycodad: and if you reverse the order of ">/dev/null" and "2>&1" ? |
| 10:04.49 | psycodad | jelly-home: youre the man ;) |
| 10:04.57 | psycodad | jelly-home: how come ?? |
| 10:05.07 | jelly-home | psycodad: bash faq. |
| 10:05.27 | psycodad | jelly-home: oki, thx a lot, saved me 1 mail per minute ;) |
| 10:05.53 | jelly-home | psycodad: it applies redirections from the right |
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| 10:07.01 | Shnoodle | ustunozgur: that's how it works, sorry, need a new domain per website |
| 10:08.07 | Shnoodle | ustunozgur: you can set up ustun.ee.billkent.edu.tr/site1in your ustun.ee.billkent.edu.tr server easily though, if you wanted to share the server environment |
| 10:08.35 | psycodad | jelly-home: i will put the oreilly bash book under my pillow this night...this has helped in other areas well lately ;) |
| 10:08.50 | Shnoodle | and it does forwarding so you can send site1 to blah.org if you wanted |
| 10:08.57 | ustunozgur | Shnoodle: can I use it in tandem with manually created web sites however? hmm ok. there was an apache-default, but it currently blocks it and says 'this domain is a shared ip. please give the individual name etc: |
| 10:08.59 | ustunozgur | ok |
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| 10:09.01 | ustunozgur | I see |
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| 10:10.34 | Shnoodle | ustunozgur: okay, gnight |
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| 10:11.04 | ustunozgur | good night. |
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| 10:15.21 | Dubphil | Hello, I have just update my debian Etch and I see that the package snmp has been updated, but what is exactly the use of this package, when I use on another server cacti, it is unable to get snmp info from my debian etch, any idea ? |
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| 10:19.46 | lero | hey, i'm trying to rpm --initdb on debian etch and getting this: http://dpaste.com/34135/ any hints? |
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| 10:22.03 | moshii | Dubphil: you need to configure snmp for it to work |
| 10:22.20 | sniff | anyone here ever worked with a checkpoint sbox? |
| 10:22.26 | sniff | scratch that |
| 10:22.28 | sniff | lol |
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| 10:22.45 | sniff | can i simulate with aptitude's |
| 10:22.52 | sniff | "graphical" interface? |
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| 10:23.38 | DustyBin | i woke up this morning and my home server looks like this: |
| 10:23.38 | moshii | sniff: simulate what? |
| 10:23.40 | DustyBin | /dev/hda7 3.0G 3.0G 0 100% /var |
| 10:23.48 | DustyBin | thankfully ive partitioned /var |
| 10:24.07 | moshii | DustyBin: big log file, cron-apt downloading packages.. |
| 10:24.16 | DustyBin | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 1203718025 2008-02-07 10:23 syslog |
| 10:24.24 | DustyBin | ^^ does that look normal o_0 |
| 10:24.35 | DustyBin | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 1203719258 2008-02-07 10:23 daemon.log |
| 10:24.48 | sniff | moshii: like aptitude -s |
| 10:24.57 | DustyBin | oh dear |
| 10:24.59 | DustyBin | Feb 7 07:40:21 server lircd-0.8.0[3213]: error reading '/dev/input/event4' |
| 10:24.59 | DustyBin | Feb 7 07:40:21 server lircd-0.8.0[3213]: devinput_rec |
| 10:25.08 | DustyBin | lots and lots and lots and lots of the same error |
| 10:25.17 | moshii | DustyBin: you want to stop pasting so much ;) |
| 10:26.52 | Dubphil | moshii: Where ? there is nothing in /etc/ and nothing in /etc/init.d |
| 10:26.55 | redeeman | hello, im having a problem, it seems that pure-ftpd-wrapper is broken when one uses pure-ftpd-mysql, as the wrapper seems to try to execute "pure-ftpd" instead of "pure-ftpd-mysql. |
| 10:27.00 | redeeman | should i just change the script? |
| 10:27.08 | jelly-home | DustyBin: sounds like this lircd thing doesn't throttle its syslog messages. Kill it. |
| 10:29.17 | sniff | would aptitde -s work for the graphical interface? |
| 10:29.42 | moshii | sniff: you mean the curses interface, read el documentationo |
| 10:29.55 | sniff | i dont see it there |
| 10:30.12 | Dubphil | moshii: about the package call "snmp" |
| 10:30.38 | sniff | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.38 | sniff | read-only mode regardless of whether you are root. |
| 10:30.47 | sniff | i dont get it if it means it will simulate :( |
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| 10:30.59 | sniff | i dont wanna kill the server :P |
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| 10:32.36 | jmut | hi, I have doc that I need xinclude to build. U just cannot find such package..and donnot which source list I might need. any pointers? |
| 10:32.53 | JarZki^ | Kinda hard to get help without pasteing :D |
| 10:34.03 | jmut | JarZki^: you mean my issue? |
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| 10:36.23 | JarZki^ | jmut: nope, just a general hint :) |
| 10:36.31 | JarZki^ | was about some stuff earlier :) |
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| 10:37.17 | JarZki^ | What is the official way to change the system wide LC_TIME locale variable? |
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| 10:40.02 | wols_ | !set the time |
| 10:40.02 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch), dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid), and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 10:40.12 | sniff` | if i have a new libc6 but old most stuff can i just upgrade to testing? |
| 10:40.37 | wols_ | if you have a new lbc6 you basically run testing or whatever |
| 10:40.43 | wols_ | what version is your libc6? |
| 10:40.49 | sniff` | but lotsa stuff is broken |
| 10:40.51 | sniff` | 2.5.1 |
| 10:41.04 | sniff` | 2.5-11 |
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| 10:41.50 | JarZki^ | hehe, we are prolly talking about the different thingie here, Im wondering about the variable LC_TIME, as you can see the difference in the variable when using ls -la for example |
| 10:41.59 | JarZki^ | Then the LC_TIME variable affects the timestamp there |
| 10:42.11 | JarZki^ | for example 2008-10-10 20:00:00 |
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| 10:42.42 | JarZki^ | and what is the official way to change the system wide variable so it affects all user on your system? |
| 10:42.55 | JarZki^ | for example from en_US to fr_FR etc |
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| 10:45.19 | laurly | hey guys need some help before i break something. Shore wall used to foward a port to my pc for ... downloading. i reinstalled my pc cant remember the port it used to foward. |
| 10:45.21 | sniff` | wols_? :s |
| 10:45.37 | wols_ | hm? |
| 10:45.39 | laurly | suprisingly i can read most of shore wall rules :) |
| 10:45.50 | wols_ | 2.5 is not lenny, or very old one |
| 10:45.53 | sniff` | wols_: should i upgrade or downgrade? |
| 10:46.00 | sniff` | wols_: its old, about 6 months |
| 10:46.03 | wols_ | just upgrade fully or not at all. don't mix stable with other branches, ever |
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| 10:46.19 | sniff` | i already did a long time ago |
| 10:46.21 | wols_ | whatever you want, but stay with lenny or etch, no mixing |
| 10:46.27 | wols_ | !Bobitt |
| 10:46.30 | wols_ | !Bobbitt |
| 10:46.30 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody (...sarge, etch), you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge, Etch, and any other debian system, "debian based distro", or the fire that is <rpm>, <alien>, etc. |
| 10:46.38 | sniff` | yeah i've read that already |
| 10:46.45 | sniff` | and i know about that |
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| 10:46.59 | sniff` | i fixed a production box with a reinstall since i killed it trying to downgrade |
| 10:47.15 | sniff` | question it what should i do? complete the upgrade or just downgrade? |
| 10:50.05 | sniff` | am i still connected? |
| 10:50.13 | idimmu | no |
| 10:50.17 | Dubphil | anyone know what is the use of the package called "snmp" in debian etch ? |
| 10:50.18 | sniff` | oh, ok |
| 10:50.20 | sniff` | :P |
| 10:50.25 | idimmu | :) |
| 10:50.43 | sniff` | Dubphil its an snmp client, probably |
| 10:51.41 | Dubphil | sniff' so I need a server in order to have my debian analysed with another server ? |
| 10:52.15 | sniff` | what do you mean analysed with another server ? |
| 10:52.39 | Dubphil | getting network information in cacti for example |
| 10:52.41 | sniff` | btw snmp - NET SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) Apps |
| 10:52.41 | sniff` | snmpd - NET SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) Agents |
| 10:52.48 | moshii | Dubphil: SimpleNetworkManagementProtocol, you need to configure it! |
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| 10:52.59 | sniff` | snmp is the server i guess, snmp is the agent that reads info |
| 10:53.07 | sniff` | moshii: got any idea for my issue? |
| 10:53.20 | Dubphil | ok so in my case I have no use of the snmp package ? |
| 10:53.25 | g-d | no |
| 10:53.30 | moshii | sniff`: I can't even remember what your issue was |
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| 10:54.13 | sniff` | moshii: i've mixed etch with lenny, long time ago |
| 10:54.18 | sniff` | now i'm trying to fix it |
| 10:54.44 | sniff` | and i wonder if i should upgrade or downgrade rather than a fresh install |
| 10:54.56 | moshii | sniff`: upgrade to lenny or reinstall |
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| 10:55.16 | brinkergurl17 | Hello All! Quick question, I installed NoMachine NX and its missing libXcomp.so.3 but its inside of /usr/NX/lib. How would I link the lib in the NX folder to /usr/lib or where ever they need to go? |
| 10:55.47 | moshii | brinkergurl17: ln -s |
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| 10:56.05 | sniff` | moshii and the upgrade will not fail? |
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| 10:56.25 | sniff` | or should not fail |
| 10:56.39 | moshii | sniff`: I can't say either way, you shouldn't have mixed, but I reckon an upgrade will go better than a downgrade will |
| 10:57.05 | moshii | sniff`: The scripts in the packages are created to deal with upgrading not downgrading if you catch my drift. |
| 10:57.20 | sniff` | yeah i know the main idea |
| 10:58.13 | sniff` | i just already had that. i screwed both servers 6 months ago, one was a production box so i did it, this one is the dev so i took my time |
| 10:58.20 | sniff` | and now i want to do it right |
| 10:58.34 | moshii | if it's a production machine, it's already broken being a mix, it might as well be running lenny proper than bits bodged in. |
| 10:58.37 | sniff` | i upgraded the one i already reinstalled but it didn't really work |
| 10:58.46 | sniff` | nah its not a production box |
| 10:58.55 | sniff` | the other one i reinstalled long ago is |
| 10:59.50 | brinkergurl17 | moshii, ln -s /usr/lib * i know it isn't correct as locate couldn't find libXcomp |
| 10:59.52 | cast | didn't anyone get the geek stereotype memo! |
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| 11:00.22 | brinkergurl17 | im inside /usr/NX/lib |
| 11:00.25 | moshii | brinkergurl17: eh, link only the lib you need not the whole lot |
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| 11:00.33 | brinkergurl17 | oh |
| 11:00.33 | sniff` | cast what? geeks don't do computers anymore :p |
| 11:01.00 | moshii | brinkergurl17: might be an idea to A; check you have the lib, B: if you're running amd64 you maybe need a 32bit version, if the software is 32bit |
| 11:01.07 | erik2 | can i apt-get ****SUN's***** jre ? |
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| 11:01.21 | moshii | erik2: package.debian.org |
| 11:01.29 | moshii | erik2: packages.debian.org |
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| 11:04.24 | HardDisk_WP | enouf, valdyn: i solved my dvd problem from yesterday, sr_mod wasn't loaded |
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| 11:06.22 | Knight_Lord | How do I figure out the UUID of a partition? |
| 11:06.33 | cast | hmm |
| 11:06.36 | cast | blkid |
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| 11:06.55 | cast | you can also cat /dev/disksomethingsomething |
| 11:07.29 | cast | or not, well, you can refer to them by /dev/disk/by-uuid/ anyway |
| 11:07.30 | Knight_Lord | cast thanks |
| 11:08.50 | ringo999 | hi. im using aptitude to manage my packages on debian etch stable. i have one package (uswsusp) that is quite "outdate" and I would like to user a more current version. However, it is only available in "unstable", but I do not want to change to unstable. Suggestions on how to get this job done in a smart way? thanks. |
| 11:09.09 | cast | !simple sid backport |
| 11:09.09 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
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| 11:10.14 | mahi | cast:i am getting error in restarting xorg as I810(0): Monitor 2 cannot be specified on single pipe devices |
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| 11:22.59 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:22.59 | dpkg | <MobyTurbo> nvz: brothels .. <nvz> I never even heard that word until last night |
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| 11:27.07 | sebastian^ | good morning folks |
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| 11:27.28 | sniff` | is libapache php5 broken in lenny?:s |
| 11:27.37 | sniff` | a dist upgrade gives me |
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| 11:28.20 | sniff` | http://rafb.net/p/e90ud266.html |
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| 11:35.26 | sniff` | anyone? |
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| 11:38.19 | gui____ | hi |
| 11:39.13 | sniff` | hi |
| 11:39.18 | gui____ | I just installed x86_64 system with ETCH debian, but I need to use mysql 5.1 ! What's the best for me to upgrade to testing version ? It's for a product server !!! |
| 11:39.30 | karmatronic | !backports |
| 11:39.30 | dpkg | hmm... backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port, http://backports.org/, http://www.apt-get.org/, ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 11:39.54 | sniff` | gui____ 5.1 isn't available for etch? and why not just install from sources? |
| 11:40.04 | gui____ | sniff`, hate sources... |
| 11:40.11 | gui____ | if want source I will not use debian :) |
| 11:40.30 | sniff` | what would you use then?:) |
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| 11:40.36 | gui____ | gentoo :) |
| 11:40.40 | gui____ | freebsd |
| 11:40.45 | gui____ | etc... |
| 11:40.47 | sniff` | how's that? |
| 11:40.54 | gui____ | that's not the question |
| 11:41.20 | sniff` | but i do wonder why is freebsd/gentoo better than debian for that :s |
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| 11:42.08 | gui____ | sniff`, the portage look at the doc |
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| 11:42.49 | sniff` | portage? |
| 11:43.53 | tdn | How can a device (partition) exist in fdisk -l but not in /dev? |
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| 11:44.02 | tdn | I am trying to mount a partition from an USB harddisk enclosure, but this is what happens: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1062.html |
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| 11:58.11 | moshii | Does debians adduser handle adding users to an ldap directory? |
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| 12:09.24 | joltcan | moshii: I think you want to do that in other ways |
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| 12:11.59 | moshii | joltcan: having now luck adding users with phpldapadmin :/ |
| 12:12.08 | joltcan | moshii: The structure of the LDAP compared to a passwd file is very different, so I think you probably want to use scripting or some other tool |
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| 12:12.23 | joltcan | moshii: Impossible to help you witout someting out of a pastebin |
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| 12:13.06 | gui____ | for 64b distribution I don't find 5.1 packet for mysql :-( |
| 12:13.15 | gui____ | the same for unstable version |
| 12:13.24 | gui____ | anyone can confirm this please ? |
| 12:13.33 | moshii | joltcan: I thought the adduser util would have some sort of wrapping for ldap systems :/ |
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| 12:18.46 | sniff` | how can i move stuff i `find` with it's direcotries? |
| 12:18.49 | sniff` | i mean |
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| 12:19.00 | sniff` | mv `find -name '*old'` /old/ |
| 12:19.04 | sniff` | with pathes? |
| 12:19.40 | RichiH | for i in `find foo`; do mv $i old/$i; done |
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| 12:20.01 | RichiH | you need to mkdir -p the directories, first |
| 12:20.09 | RichiH | which you can also do in a for loop |
| 12:20.11 | sniff` | whats -p? |
| 12:20.21 | RichiH | man mkdir :) |
| 12:20.30 | sniff` | meh |
| 12:20.30 | sniff` | lazy |
| 12:20.32 | sniff` | :p |
| 12:21.03 | RichiH | actually, i already hade the full answer typed out and decided to give youthe manpage, instead :) |
| 12:21.14 | RichiH | teach a man how to fish and all that |
| 12:22.06 | sniff` | i know how to fish, :p |
| 12:22.15 | sniff` | im just lazier |
| 12:23.02 | joltcan | moshii: Nopes. I think it can only handle regular password/shadow files |
| 12:23.53 | joltcan | moshii: Try and create an ldif file with the values you have for the new user and user ldapadd with that file. Then you will see what ever it complains about. Then you can later on make a script that uses that ldif file as a template for new users |
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| 12:24.21 | sniff` | RichiH: doesn't work :< |
| 12:24.43 | moshii | joltcan: phpldapadmin will add other objects, but a posixuser spits out 0x50 |
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| 12:25.12 | RichiH | !doesn't work |
| 12:25.12 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 12:25.50 | joltcan | moshii: Yes, and you wreally would like to know what that means. Probably some error with the schema and that the values you are inserting doesnt match |
| 12:26.00 | joltcan | moshii: But Impossible to know without some nice logging |
| 12:27.24 | sniff` | RichiH: it moved just the files inthe current dir |
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| 12:28.14 | moshii | joltcan: yeah, gong to have to turn that on in slapd me thinks |
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| 12:29.12 | gui____ | does anybody use mysql 5.1 there ? I'm searching how to install it ! |
| 12:29.37 | moshii | 5.1 isn't in even sid iirc |
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| 12:29.56 | happla | gui____: ./configure && make && make install =) |
| 12:29.59 | moshii | nope, looks like it is |
| 12:30.20 | RichiH | sniff`: then you either need the directories or you did something wrong with the find |
| 12:30.33 | RichiH | sniff`: use echo $i to check what find reports |
| 12:30.41 | RichiH | or should i say.. finds..? ;) |
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| 12:31.45 | kunsi | hi |
| 12:32.17 | tinman | Hello |
| 12:32.38 | sniff` | RichiH: http://rafb.net/p/Txok2078.html |
| 12:32.43 | sniff` | why is that? |
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| 12:33.00 | sniff` | oh |
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| 12:33.05 | sniff` | lol forget what i said |
| 12:33.15 | sniff` | when i try it with find -name '*.php' |
| 12:33.17 | sniff` | i get |
| 12:33.30 | sniff` | mv: cannot move `./a/a.php' to `b/./a/a.php': No such file or directory |
| 12:33.43 | sniff` | can't it create the dir ;(? |
| 12:34.00 | kunsi | mv doesnt create directories |
| 12:34.02 | RichiH | 13:20:01 < RichiH> you need to mkdir -p the directories, first |
| 12:34.02 | RichiH | 13:20:09 < RichiH> which you can also do in a for loop |
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| 12:34.29 | sniff` | how do i do that? i got an idea mixed in my head |
| 12:34.52 | jelly-home | shaken or stirred? |
| 12:35.03 | sniff` | what :s |
| 12:35.06 | RichiH | find -type d is your friend |
| 12:35.25 | RichiH | put that into the for loop and use echo $i to show the results |
| 12:35.36 | sniff` | i thought i could do it in one loop :s |
| 12:35.50 | sniff` | nvm, thanks |
| 12:35.53 | RichiH | well, you can |
| 12:36.22 | RichiH | use if [ ] stuff to deterimine if it's a directory of file, then execute mkdir or mv, as appropriate |
| 12:36.35 | sniff` | bah i dont know bash scripting |
| 12:37.18 | karmatronic | sniff`: could you paste your loop again ...? |
| 12:37.48 | sniff` | for i in `find -name '*.php'`; do mv $i b/$i; done |
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| 12:39.23 | jelly-home | rsync, with a nice include/exclude pattern |
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| 12:40.21 | sniff` | can i get a ... ! im so lazy :p |
| 12:40.51 | outlaw84 | has anyone else had problems with doing a dist-upgrade for i386 unstable? |
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| 12:41.46 | sniff` | im doing it now (lenny actually) |
| 12:43.30 | mmp | Hello, I'm trying to configure debian host to use LDAP as a source for 'hosts' database; despite of having LDAP server running and configured (and responding to LDAP queries), after changing nsswitch.conf I'm not able to do run ldapsearch anymore, neither use any naming service.. |
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| 12:44.12 | mmp | strace says it freezes waiting for some FUTEX.. |
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| 12:45.03 | mmp | hmm, well, ldapsearch started to work.. mysteriously... |
| 12:46.02 | outlaw84 | has there been some major event that would overload the debian apt sources? |
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| 12:47.10 | karmatronic | sniff`: for i in `find -name '*.php'`; do mv "$i" b/"$i"; done |
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| 12:48.54 | xlotlu | i have a hdd that's clicking only when i mkfs.ext3... i tried badblocks -w, no click; dd if=another hdd into it. no click.. not sure if i should suspect bad hardware or mkfs does something really weird... |
| 12:48.56 | techouse | how do i make firefox to load the appropriate app for some file extension every time? i.e. when i download a wmv and want it to open in kmplayer instead to save to disk i have to browse to /usr/bin/kmplayer every time; how do i set some defaults? |
| 12:49.38 | sniff` | karmatronic: that would also create the dirs? cause of the quotation marks? |
| 12:49.55 | xlotlu | techouse: it's kept as default after the first time you browse for it |
| 12:50.12 | techouse | nope....not with my |
| 12:50.17 | techouse | me* |
| 12:50.39 | techouse | lemme try again |
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| 12:51.41 | techouse | xlotlu: nope...it says the appropriate helper app does not exist |
| 12:51.43 | techouse | :P |
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| 12:52.30 | sniff` | how do i get new locales? |
| 12:52.56 | xlotlu | techouse: then go to preferences->content->file types and get rid of the "helper app" |
| 12:53.08 | xlotlu | techouse: and btw, there's a mozilla mplayer plugin |
| 12:53.27 | techouse | i know |
| 12:53.30 | techouse | i have it installed |
| 12:53.35 | techouse | but the wmv was on gmail |
| 12:53.41 | techouse | so i had to DL it :P |
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| 12:56.50 | techouse | strange |
| 12:56.57 | techouse | no helper app listed |
| 12:57.18 | techouse | and all files ahve their appropriate plugins |
| 12:57.19 | techouse | :P |
| 12:57.22 | techouse | have* |
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| 13:07.39 | Knight_Lord | How can I figure out the size of a sector? |
| 13:07.44 | Knight_Lord | disk sector? |
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| 13:08.11 | gui____ | is it |
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| 13:08.46 | gui____ | sorry , is it dangerous to add testing depot, install a soft (mysql) and to remove the testing depot ? |
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| 13:16.57 | Flav0r | kann mir jemand helfen einen einfachen webserver aufzusetzen der "sicher" ist und lediglich eine PNG Datei anzeigen soll? |
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| 13:18.28 | mahi | gui____:gdm not getting start after each boot,each time require to dpkg-reconfigure.. |
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| 13:18.48 | hark | gui____: look into backports instead |
| 13:18.52 | gui____ | mahi, ? |
| 13:19.12 | gui____ | nothing interessant in backport for mysql 5.1 |
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| 13:19.45 | mahi | gui____:(EE) I810(0): Monitor 2 cannot be specified on single pipe devices |
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| 13:20.03 | mahi | gui___:(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration |
| 13:20.15 | gui____ | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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| 13:21.26 | hmmhesays | Has anyone ever run into a problem where their non root user using a system call from perl won't execute a cp command? |
| 13:21.40 | hmmhesays | something is goofy with my environment settings obviously but I don't figure it out |
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| 13:29.03 | mahi | gui___:no screen found |
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| 13:30.00 | neko_ | hi people |
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| 13:36.57 | maelstrom | iceweasel ? |
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| 13:39.10 | joltcan | maelstrom: Thunderbird? |
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| 13:39.40 | joltcan | Or Firefox of curse |
| 13:39.53 | maelstrom | this is posturing right ? debian will someday call it firefox again right ? |
| 13:40.13 | fengor | nope maelstrom |
| 13:40.36 | joltcan | maelstrom: Extra extra, read more about it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian |
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| 13:43.25 | maelstrom | how silly |
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| 13:43.58 | pep | icerabbit? |
| 13:44.00 | neko__ | hi |
| 13:44.24 | enouf | HardDisk_WP: thanks atleast for the followup response (silly reason, but i suppose so - the macosx works should've been a clue to me, but i was preoccupied) |
| 13:44.39 | pep | to be frank, 'iceweasel' is a better name than firefox is not as cool as iceweasel |
| 13:44.51 | enouf | firepoop |
| 13:44.57 | pep | that is, 'iceweasel' is more cool than 'firefox' |
| 13:45.26 | pep | at least in my opinion |
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| 13:46.10 | Alexismoy | Hi |
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| 13:46.26 | Alexismoy | Someone has a howto to setup a linux from the network, because my computer doesn't have screen and keyboard |
| 13:46.34 | neko__ | how do i make a zip from a folder having is start folder the last one from the path (ex.: "zip -r my.zip /home/me/my/folder/" -> "/folder" in the zip file ) ? |
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| 13:48.36 | justin | neko__: see the examples in the zip man page |
| 13:48.50 | neko__ | yep |
| 13:48.55 | neko__ | i did |
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| 13:50.02 | justin | neko__: maybe you just want to cd /home/me/my;zip /orig/path/my.zip -r folder |
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| 13:50.27 | neko__ | yes that was i was into thinking :), i am slow brain |
| 13:50.34 | neko__ | thanks justin |
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| 14:00.21 | tinman | Anyone got random pms to join some channel in ef net? someone seems to be spamming linux related channels with pm |
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| 14:03.46 | TwistedGenius | j;jjliljluulgljfjggjgjgjgjtjuluuuouououuu ouuouuoouou uou ' |
| 14:03.52 | TwistedGenius | 0 |
| 14:04.43 | jelly-home | eloquent |
| 14:04.56 | abrotman | cat? |
| 14:05.16 | jelly-home | it's still dead |
| 14:05.32 | jelly-home | oops, wrong channel |
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| 14:07.23 | liable | tinman: if you are getting spammed, invoke !ops with the spammers name |
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| 14:07.30 | cesar_CR | hello : ) |
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| 14:07.53 | cesar_CR | any guide for installing a new kernel in a debian way ? |
| 14:08.12 | tralala | cesar_CR, /msg dpkg bpo |
| 14:08.18 | tinman | liable: not now, apparently several server including ef net freenode and other's "linux" related channel did |
| 14:08.21 | clusty | how can I make the computer advertise its hostname? |
| 14:08.24 | abrotman | cesar_CR: you mean compiling? |
| 14:08.32 | pep | cesar_CR: man make-kpkg |
| 14:08.33 | abrotman | clusty: to a windows machine ? |
| 14:08.38 | cesar_CR | abrotman, yes : ) |
| 14:08.41 | clusty | no\ |
| 14:08.43 | abrotman | make-kpkg |
| 14:08.43 | clusty | linux |
| 14:08.51 | clusty | now i can access by ip |
| 14:08.56 | clusty | wanna access by hotname |
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| 14:09.18 | clusty | abrotman, there was a dhcp client setting i think |
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| 14:09.28 | cesar_CR | I just want to update the kernel to the newest and keep the actual configurations abrotman |
| 14:09.35 | tralala | cesar_CR, why compile if it is already backported for you? /msg dpkg bpo or if you insist on compiling /msg dpkg kp-mantra |
| 14:09.45 | abrotman | if your dhcp server supports that |
| 14:09.45 | joltcan | clusty: That is set in the config file of the dhcp client |
| 14:09.58 | clusty | cesar_CR, you can copy the .config file into new place |
| 14:10.03 | clusty | and do make old-config |
| 14:10.09 | abrotman | cesar_CR: make-kpkg |
| 14:10.15 | abrotman | tralala: isn't bpo only at .22 ? |
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| 14:10.20 | clusty | joltcan, what is the thing i gotta set |
| 14:10.47 | joltcan | clusty: I don't know. But search for name in the config |
| 14:10.58 | cesar_CR | tralala, thats what I want... create a .deb from the latest .tar.gz of the kernel... |
| 14:11.05 | abrotman | make-kpkg |
| 14:11.16 | tralala | abrotman, it is. |
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| 14:11.42 | tralala | cesar_CR, do you really want upstream sources? |
| 14:11.59 | abrotman | cesar_CR: why do you want a newer kernel? |
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| 14:12.59 | cesar_CR | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:13.19 | pep | make-kpkg is the Debian way of compiling customized kernels |
| 14:13.20 | abrotman | cesar_CR: did you try the ntfs-3g packages at backports.org ? |
| 14:13.34 | cesar_CR | and also to know how to do it, for just in case. |
| 14:13.41 | tralala | cesar_CR, this doesn't mean you need the latest. Try .22 from backports |
| 14:14.14 | tralala | abrotman, ntfs-3g even from backports bitches about .18 |
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| 14:14.30 | adrakoa | hello |
| 14:14.45 | tralala | despite that it has worked for me so far |
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| 14:15.14 | abrotman | tralala: shouldn't it always warn "your data might disappear" :) |
| 14:16.19 | tralala | abrotman, heh ;) not according to the project. They have extensive test suite and are pretty confidednt about the reliability of the driver. |
| 14:16.35 | abrotman | sorry .. don't buy it :) |
| 14:17.12 | Jyzygzy- | whats the name for the program that gives you nice information about nic:s |
| 14:17.12 | cesar_CR | I didn't know about backports.org !!! |
| 14:17.34 | liable | Jyzygzy-: ethtool? |
| 14:18.01 | tralala | abrotman, you're welcome to prove them wrong and expose their bugs. ;) I'd take their word for the quality even if I don't plan to switch my / over ntfs. |
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| 14:18.23 | abrotman | tralala: i don't keep any personal data i care about on an NTFS partition |
| 14:18.35 | Jyzygzy- | liable thats it |
| 14:18.46 | nepbabu | !beer |
| 14:18.46 | dpkg | i heard beer is liquid gold mate |
| 14:18.47 | liable | so the donkey pr0n is on nfs? |
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| 14:19.21 | tralala | abrotman, I'm trying not to keep any data I care about without a backup so I'm not picky on file systems. |
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| 14:19.56 | abrotman | blablah .. linus-backup-method :) |
| 14:19.58 | Jyzygzy- | can you somehow see if yout interface is using jumbo frames |
| 14:20.02 | Jyzygzy- | networking interface |
| 14:20.07 | abrotman | !mtu |
| 14:20.07 | dpkg | mtu is probably Maximum Transferrable Unit.. Maximum Transmission Unit, or what tracepath (package iputils-tracepath) can find about, or can be configured in interfaces - see <interfaces> |
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| 14:20.16 | abrotman | i guess that's what he means |
| 14:20.20 | Jyzygzy- | me? |
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| 14:22.00 | gyokimae | Hi, anyone know of a C library to parse URLs? i.e., toss http://doma.in:8080/index.html as string and retrieve the protocol, domain, port, path, etc.. |
| 14:22.22 | tralala | gyokimae, ask ##c |
| 14:22.45 | gyokimae | ok.. thought one of you might know of a package. |
| 14:23.17 | tralala | gyokimae, /msg dpkg search |
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| 14:23.39 | casanovito | guys |
| 14:23.47 | casanovito | how can i register a nick on freenode? |
| 14:24.23 | nepbabu | casanovito, /ns help |
| 14:24.31 | gyokimae | tralala, thanks. I've searched through my apt-cache but didn't quite figure out the keywords to look for. |
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| 14:26.19 | adrakoa | gyokimae: it's a boot from irc protocol... perphaps your client has more info in /usr/share/* |
| 14:26.38 | abrotman | gyokimae: so ask ##c |
| 14:26.50 | gyokimae | got it. thanks, and sorry to disturb |
| 14:27.17 | adrakoa | boot==bot sorry |
| 14:28.49 | casanovito | thanks |
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| 14:49.32 | GlamGen | what is this?? |
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| 14:51.50 | amphi | what is what? |
| 14:52.15 | RichiH | is there any date for the lenny freeze set, yet? |
| 14:52.38 | abrotman | RichiH: there was an update last week |
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| 14:52.53 | RichiH | meaning? |
| 14:52.57 | abrotman | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/02/msg00002.html |
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| 14:54.24 | dererk | RichiH, hey :) |
| 14:54.43 | abrotman | !wwlr |
| 14:54.44 | dpkg | Lenny will release WIR; SIYH, hopefully in the second half of 2008. Ask me about <lenny pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/02/msg00002.html |
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| 14:57.19 | jelly-home | !info xchat testing |
| 14:57.26 | dpkg | xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.8.4-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 299 kB, Installed size: 728 kB |
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| 15:02.35 | RichiH | abrotman: ta |
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| 15:03.34 | nepbabu | !beer RichiH |
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| 15:04.40 | nepbabu | hah |
| 15:04.44 | petemc | rob schneider ? |
| 15:05.00 | RichiH | schneider aventinus |
| 15:05.10 | wols_ | schneider weie |
| 15:05.12 | nepbabu | pete the schneider |
| 15:05.15 | nepbabu | :D |
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| 15:08.28 | RichiH | http://schneiderweisse.de/down/kunden.downloads.fgk.aventinus.jpg |
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| 15:09.37 | abrotman | yummy stuff |
| 15:09.59 | nepbabu | nice! :) how much does it cost? looks expensive :/ |
| 15:10.04 | RichiH | http://www.schneiders-kaufladen.de/details.php?sid=7B1F368AF9F3E8CF955FF4EA419E86E6&id=K1038&cat=6 |
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| 15:10.18 | nepbabu | cheers! |
| 15:10.27 | vlt | Hello. When running the script http://pastebin.ca/895037 with Debian's current libapache2-mod-php5 I get an unexpected output: "A:local:/var/www/foo\nA:GLOBAL:/". Running from CLI works fine (output "A:local:/var/www/foo\nA:GLOBAL:/var/www/foo"). Can anyone reproduce this? |
| 15:11.15 | strav | Hi. I'm currently trying to add some new repositories (mainly gulus.usherbrooke.ca) to my apt source.list and I'm having some difficulties when trying to add the repository key. On the server there usually is a file name release.pgp which I think is the key. Now if I do: apt-key add release.pgp I get the error: no valid pgp data found... anyone can explain? |
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| 15:11.26 | RichiH | nepbabu: aventinus is the most expensive 'normal' wheat beer |
| 15:11.35 | abrotman | strav: what is the key ? |
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| 15:11.46 | RichiH | nepbabu: 20 * .5 l cost you a good 20 euros |
| 15:11.49 | abrotman | vlt: did you ask ##php ? |
| 15:11.55 | strav | abrotman, ain't it Release.pgp? |
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| 15:12.01 | nepbabu | RichiH, ahh i see it says 30 euros |
| 15:12.08 | strav | abrotman, http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/debian/debian/ |
| 15:12.13 | RichiH | the second link is aventinus eisbock, which is 40 euro for 10 * .33 l |
| 15:12.22 | abrotman | strav: no .. they key |
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| 15:12.26 | RichiH | never tasted that, only found about that one two days ago |
| 15:12.36 | strav | I don't know. How should I is mainly my question |
| 15:12.40 | abrotman | RichiH: what is weissbier-senf ? looks like peanut butter |
| 15:12.44 | mbroeker | RichiH, is there viagra in it? |
| 15:12.49 | abrotman | strav: doesn't it tell you ? |
| 15:12.51 | vlt | abrotman: Yes, they couldn't reproduce it -- using Apache/2.2.6 Win32 :( |
| 15:13.00 | strav | well, apparently not... |
| 15:13.04 | nepbabu | damn RichiH! 12% alcohol |
| 15:13.12 | abrotman | 12% isn't that bad |
| 15:13.26 | nepbabu | abrotman, that's like twice of what i have |
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| 15:13.39 | abrotman | nepbabu: you're 6% alcohol ? |
| 15:13.47 | nepbabu | abrotman, yeah :s |
| 15:13.49 | abrotman | strav: when you try to install it .. doesn't it spit out a hex key ? |
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| 15:14.27 | strav | though if you can give me a repository with their key for debian sid, I'd appreciate. Actually, if you check gulus.usherbrooke.ca... I wonder where is the key I can use with apt-key add etc. |
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| 15:15.09 | wols_ | official debian repos have all the same key |
| 15:15.31 | N0S3 | hello at all, debian lenny have support of security or only etch ? deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free ? |
| 15:15.41 | abrotman | RichiH: oh .. mustard |
| 15:15.47 | abrotman | N0S3: that'll work |
| 15:16.04 | twiggz | http://www.arrogantbastard.com |
| 15:16.07 | twiggz | now thats a beer. |
| 15:16.24 | strav | abrotman, here's a list of repositories... from it, where can I get the key for each listed server? |
| 15:16.25 | strav | http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/debian/debian/README.mirrors.html |
| 15:16.28 | nepbabu | heh |
| 15:17.12 | abrotman | strav: my apologies .. i thought it was unofficial |
| 15:17.22 | abrotman | strav: see /topic |
| 15:17.25 | RichiH | nepbabu: yah, i will prolly freeze a few of my bottles, soon |
| 15:17.33 | strav | abrotman, no probem. Ok, 2 secs |
| 15:17.38 | RichiH | not willing to pay that much for what is basically frozen beer |
| 15:17.46 | nepbabu | RichiH, heh |
| 15:17.53 | RichiH | abrotman: yes. the two glasses at the bottom are jelly |
| 15:18.11 | nepbabu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Bitter <=== that's a beer :P |
| 15:18.13 | abrotman | RichiH: wheatbeer mustard .. not sure about that .. but i see the sausage too :) |
| 15:18.30 | abrotman | nepbabu: why? |
| 15:18.46 | strav | abrotman, might I ask: where? |
| 15:18.47 | liable | VB ftw |
| 15:18.48 | nepbabu | it's bitter as hell |
| 15:18.55 | liable | if your a bogan.. |
| 15:18.58 | abrotman | strav: just type /topic |
| 15:19.03 | strav | abrotman, I've looked into /doc etc. |
| 15:19.06 | liable | beer is supposed to be bitter! |
| 15:19.09 | N0S3 | abrotman, sorry, i not you understand |
| 15:19.15 | nepbabu | liable, abrotman, have you tried it? |
| 15:19.24 | abrotman | nepbabu: nor would i |
| 15:19.26 | liable | nepbabu: i am drinking it as we speak.. |
| 15:19.26 | nepbabu | liable, it's bitter than the most bitter :P |
| 15:19.28 | RichiH | abrotman: well, you can put beer into pretty much everything |
| 15:19.29 | strav | oh. thanks |
| 15:19.34 | abrotman | not a big fan of ESB style |
| 15:19.37 | nepbabu | liable, wow mate :) me tooo |
| 15:19.38 | twiggz | i like arrogant bastard ale. |
| 15:19.39 | RichiH | abrotman: there are a lot of sauces where you cook beer, as well |
| 15:19.47 | abrotman | i've seen those .. |
| 15:19.55 | RichiH | btw, you all want to append &esrch=BetaShortcuts to your google queries |
| 15:19.59 | abrotman | RichiH: i tried beer in my cheerios .. fail |
| 15:20.08 | RichiH | abrotman: heh, could of told you _that_ |
| 15:20.19 | twiggz | i cook all my meat in beer when i use the oven most times, or i use beer and a few other odds and ends to marinate it when i use the grill. |
| 15:20.37 | nepbabu | heh |
| 15:20.43 | RichiH | twiggz: yah |
| 15:21.03 | liable | twiggz: what other odds and ends in the marinade? |
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| 15:21.12 | RichiH | liable: and no, beer is not supposed to be bitter. it is supposed to be malty |
| 15:21.29 | RichiH | port wine also works great for marinading stuff |
| 15:21.31 | twiggz | lemon juice, tobasco |
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| 15:21.55 | twiggz | makes great fajitas |
| 15:22.15 | RichiH | port wine, cloves, squirt of orange |
| 15:24.01 | nepbabu | RichiH, i make chappatis sometimes and curry too! :) |
| 15:24.17 | liable | RichiH: meh, i much prefer a bitter. |
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| 15:24.23 | RichiH | liable: you suck |
| 15:24.35 | RichiH | beer is where friendships end |
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| 15:24.51 | RichiH | en garde! |
| 15:25.01 | twiggz | get a 24oz cheap beer in a can..pour it halfway out and fill it back up with italian dressing and shove the whole thing up a chickens ass and sit it on the grill with a bigass pot over it....good stuff. |
| 15:25.09 | RichiH | heh |
| 15:25.29 | nepbabu | ninja fight's will do for me liable |
| 15:25.30 | strav | Now. Can anyone provide me a link where I can find a list of repositories for sid + their keys which I will simply add using apt-key add ? |
| 15:25.30 | nepbabu | :) |
| 15:25.52 | twiggz | i like to play TENCHU. |
| 15:25.57 | wols_ | there is only one sid repo (ad its many mirrors) |
| 15:25.59 | wols_ | !Mirrors |
| 15:25.59 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 15:26.01 | twiggz | great ninja game. |
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| 15:26.10 | RichiH | twiggz: wouldn't it make more sense to soak that up with bread and stuff the bread into the chicken? |
| 15:26.25 | nepbabu | heh |
| 15:26.38 | twiggz | if i wanted bread up my chickens ass, sure. |
| 15:26.41 | RichiH | !apt-spy |
| 15:26.41 | dpkg | apt-spy is probably a secret! Shh!, or like 'mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' :: apt-get install apt-spy; apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] :: when this finishes it will automatically write to your sources.list so if you have other mirrors there you'll have to "cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak" and fix your sources.list |
| 15:27.00 | RichiH | neat |
| 15:27.00 | liable | twiggz: you really stick a beer can up the chicken? |
| 15:27.05 | twiggz | yes. |
| 15:27.16 | liable | your strange |
| 15:27.17 | RichiH | though it should use a different file so i can overlay custom sources |
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| 15:29.30 | clamiax | Does anyone read the book ``Advanced Programming in the UNIX(r) Environment?'' and did the exercises? |
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| 15:30.05 | clamiax | I would like to check if my exercises is really correct or not. |
| 15:30.16 | clamiax | s/exercises/exercise/ |
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| 15:31.23 | strav | fine with the mirror list, now the damn keys. Seems like none of these server list a .asc file. |
| 15:31.29 | clamiax | Here is the relevant code: http://rafb.net/p/XUuqUP45.html |
| 15:31.41 | wols_ | strav: sid keys should be in the keyring |
| 15:31.42 | clamiax | I appreciate if anyone would comment it |
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| 15:33.15 | hon | how can I make xterm understand Shift+Up properly? |
| 15:33.24 | clamiax | sorry |
| 15:33.28 | clamiax | wrong channel |
| 15:33.33 | clamiax | :\ |
| 15:33.42 | strav | wols_, I found a file named debian_keyring.tar.gz which I uncompressed and it contained several gpg keys however, apt-key add on the main debian-keyring.gpg leads to a never ending process. |
| 15:33.50 | godling | I'm installing Debian on a laptop. It just finished installing packages (it may have done something else quickly afterwards; I wasn't paying attention to the screen), and now the display seems somewhat mangled. I can still see what looks like a progress bar and underneath it, yellow and blue-green boxes that sort of resemble the text that would change underneath the progress bar. |
| 15:33.56 | godling | Has anyone had this problem? |
| 15:34.06 | wols_ | !topicsmite strav |
| 15:34.06 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon strav. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
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| 15:34.29 | xj24 | how do you exclude directories when using find? |
| 15:34.43 | wols_ | godling: press ctrl+alt+f2 |
| 15:34.58 | RichiH | xj24: man find, search for type |
| 15:35.12 | godling | wols_: different virtual console? |
| 15:35.26 | wols_ | aayes. so you see if the lappy isn't crashed for example |
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| 15:35.39 | wols_ | you can also check with ps what the other VT is dowing |
| 15:35.43 | godling | Righto. |
| 15:35.45 | wols_ | *doing |
| 15:35.58 | godling | actually I can't because it's the same blocky character display on this vt |
| 15:36.00 | godling | :/ |
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| 15:36.39 | godling | I mean, it's different because I'm at a prompt but all the characters are like some mangled ascii block characters or something. |
| 15:37.01 | xj24 | RichiH: No, I meant, I want to search in / but want to exclude /somedirectory |
| 15:37.10 | abrotman | xj24: man find |
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| 15:38.47 | godling | Ok, I'm back at the main installation/setup menu. Would anyone be able to tell me which option is the one marked "exit"? :) |
| 15:38.59 | spx2 | what do I have to install to get dos2unix ? |
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| 15:39.10 | godling | wols_: thanks, btw |
| 15:39.14 | abrotman | spx2: /msg dpkg search |
| 15:39.45 | xj24 | I'm looking at the manual, but find / \! -path '/home' \! -path '/media' .. doesn't work, as it still searches there. |
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| 15:42.07 | godling | are there any commands I can issue on the second virtual terminal to "reset" the display or something? |
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| 15:42.24 | abrotman | ctrl-l |
| 15:42.29 | Quibus | Hi, can someone help me to stop apache2 nagging about FQDN's? |
| 15:43.15 | ServerSide | Hi, Do anyone know why my flash don't rightly displays the menu? http://elitepicturehost.com/viewpic.php?code=01f1a5424acc63a52f0cdbd9beeedec7 :/ |
| 15:43.19 | godling | bah. it didn't help. :/ |
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| 15:43.40 | godling | Now I'm stuck in the setup menu and I don't know what option to select. Damnit. |
| 15:43.45 | wols_ | godling: reset only resets the current one |
| 15:43.58 | wols_ | what options do you have |
| 15:43.59 | godling | Yeah, I figured. Crap. :/ |
| 15:44.03 | godling | I don't know. |
| 15:44.20 | godling | It's all a big bunch of garbled blocky stuff. |
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| 15:45.35 | godling | any suggestions? |
| 15:46.03 | wols_ | how far along the install were you? |
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| 15:46.28 | godling | I had just passed the package installation progress bar screen. |
| 15:46.41 | Jyzygzy- | man this is just what i hate |
| 15:46.53 | godling | So maybe it tried to configure something and the screen when wonky. I hope it's not the laptop itself. |
| 15:46.56 | Jyzygzy- | i can clearly see that there is 3 bytes wrong in that one packet |
| 15:47.01 | Jyzygzy- | and there is nothing i can do about it |
| 15:47.13 | Jyzygzy- | i can't seem to find anyone who knows how to modify packets realtime |
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| 15:47.47 | Jyzygzy- | wols_ ur a smart guy |
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| 15:48.58 | godling | oh sweet the display isn't messed up |
| 15:49.15 | godling | I just rebooted and now it 's telling me there's a missing OS, but at least the display isn't messed up. :D |
| 15:49.23 | nvz | it baffles me why sometimes when I d/l a torrent I can view files as they download, and other times I can't I've got over 60% of a torrent and all that I see is 82 files with 0 bytes *shrug* |
| 15:49.42 | nvz | where the hell is all the data going o.O |
| 15:49.49 | godling | wols_: thanks for your help |
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| 15:50.45 | bkw | I've a dependency problem with apt, http://pastebin.ca/895100 how do I solve that? |
| 15:50.54 | bkw | apt-get -f install doesn't help :( |
| 15:51.15 | goldlord | I am using sid,In my iceweasel does not play the ogg. In that javascript I am using click to play. |
| 15:51.18 | goldlord | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.19 | nvz | bkw: without reading it I would say try aptitude instead.. its got much better resolution capabilities |
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| 15:51.38 | Quibus | bkw: you don't have a dep problem |
| 15:51.49 | abrotman | !overwrite |
| 15:51.49 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-overwrite is because the package you are trying to install has files which exist in another package and does not conflict with the other package. This is *ALWAYS* a bug. Make sure a bug is filed (ask me about <bts>). If there isn't one, use reportbug to report it. Then install using the following: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <packagename> |
| 15:52.14 | yopyop | i have mplayer, xine, xmms, gnome mixer applet segfaulting without even displaying help message, i just tried to compile mplayer and that's work, anyidea how to debug it ? i tried to bt mplayer and second call before the segfault is within the libc, im running a sid. |
| 15:52.35 | Quibus | maybe 'php' is an old package |
| 15:53.55 | goldlord | My konqueror also does not play the javascript. |
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| 15:57.49 | kira | hello |
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| 15:58.25 | kira | i installed DSL on my laptop guys, a,d I can't get access to the net |
| 15:58.28 | kira | help |
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| 15:58.41 | chops | kira: You should ask the DSL people for support, then |
| 15:59.04 | kira | i know, but it is debian based |
| 15:59.15 | chops | !ubuntusmite kira |
| 15:59.31 | kira | it's about the shell thing, i am not familiar with command lines |
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| 15:59.47 | abrotman | kira: this channel is for Debian support. |
| 15:59.50 | goldlord | hi, I am using sid,In my iceweasel,Konqueror does not play the ogg files. |
| 15:59.56 | Hydroxide | kira: does the laptop run Debian itself or something based on Debian that isn't exactly Debian? |
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| 16:00.35 | kira | ok, hey guys i installed debian on my lapyop, i can't access the net |
| 16:00.48 | Hydroxide | oh, it is Debian then. |
| 16:00.54 | chops | kira: I don't believe you :-). |
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| 16:01.04 | Hydroxide | chops: easy way to find out. |
| 16:01.08 | kira | a tutorial says, that I should create a file "/etc/wvdial.conf" |
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| 16:01.18 | kira | and i should vi for that |
| 16:01.19 | Hydroxide | kira: type "cat /etc/debian_version" and tell us what it says when you put in that |
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| 16:01.37 | kira | i am in windows now |
| 16:01.54 | chops | kira: Honestly, it's very frustrating to try to help someone with a problem for half an hour only to find that it's a problem that doesn't exist in Debian, that we can't do anything about. |
| 16:01.58 | Hydroxide | aah. well it's kind of hard to help you get Debian working without you being in Debian |
| 16:01.59 | abrotman | kira: please ask #damnsmalllinux |
| 16:03.07 | kira | it's not a problem in debian, i can't apply a toturial that i saw |
| 16:03.07 | kira | that tuto works i all linux distros |
| 16:03.07 | Hydroxide | abrotman: somehow I doubt she means Damn Small Linux - I think she means she set up a Digital Subscriber Line and hooked it up to her laptop |
| 16:03.07 | grendal_prime | hey abrotman you work with vmware at all? |
| 16:03.07 | kira | i just need help with the VI editor |
| 16:03.08 | abrotman | grendal_prime: yes |
| 16:03.08 | alturiak | just a guess, but could it be th... yeah, what Hydroxide says :) |
| 16:03.15 | abrotman | kira: which linux did you install? |
| 16:03.25 | Quibus | kira: you can also use any other editor |
| 16:03.25 | kira | honnestly, debian |
| 16:03.27 | dragonfighter44 | LK |
| 16:03.31 | dragonfighter44 | LK |
| 16:03.33 | dragonfighter44 | LK |
| 16:03.35 | dragonfighter44 | LK |
| 16:03.37 | dragonfighter44 | LK |
| 16:03.39 | dragonfighter44 | LK |
| 16:03.40 | abrotman | dragonfighter44: stop |
| 16:03.41 | dragonfighter44 | LK |
| 16:03.44 | kira | ok, but i can't use in root mode |
| 16:03.45 | dragonfighter44 | LK |
| 16:03.45 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 16:03.46 | chops | !ops dragonfighter44 |
| 16:03.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: chops complains about: dragonfighter44 |
| 16:03.46 | *** mode/#debian [+o Hydroxide] by ChanServ |
| 16:03.47 | dragonfighter44 | LK |
| 16:03.49 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@72.166.224.194] by abrotman |
| 16:03.49 | *** kick/#debian [dragonfighter44!n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman] by abrotman (abrotman) |
| 16:03.53 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 16:03.57 | Hydroxide | heh, faster on the draw than me |
| 16:04.01 | *** mode/#debian [-o Hydroxide] by Hydroxide |
| 16:04.10 | wols_ | wtff? abrotman? with ops? |
| 16:04.11 | grendal_prime | we got this problem where the system goes ro (debian systems anyway) when they get moved...(now it makes sence..its just smart and thinks something werid is going on so it is defending itself) |
| 16:04.13 | jelly-home | !win abrotman |
| 16:04.13 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 16:04.23 | jelly-home | wols_: what's this world coming to! |
| 16:04.26 | kira | how to to create a file in /etc as root? pleasae guys |
| 16:04.28 | wols_ | jelly-home: armageddon is near |
| 16:04.32 | wols_ | run for the hills! |
| 16:04.37 | Superbartt | kira touch /etc/file ? :P |
| 16:04.37 | grendal_prime | thats the sytems that are running debian in vmware |
| 16:04.41 | kira | i can't do that please gelp |
| 16:04.44 | wols_ | kira: be root, then create one |
| 16:04.53 | wols_ | as root: nano /etc/file |
| 16:04.54 | grendal_prime | ever have that happen abrotman ? |
| 16:04.56 | kira | what do you mean superbartt |
| 16:04.56 | XTF | Hi. Where can I find an example of how to properly add a second static IP address to an interface (in Etch)? |
| 16:05.04 | spx2 | abrotman, you are really fucked up in the head |
| 16:05.04 | kira | how? wols_ |
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| 16:05.14 | Hydroxide | kira: to become root, type su |
| 16:05.15 | wols_ | !tell kira about grounding |
| 16:05.15 | abrotman | spx2: ? |
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| 16:05.21 | kira | i just converterd from windows guys |
| 16:05.23 | Hydroxide | kira: then put in the root password |
| 16:05.26 | liable | who the fuck gave abrotman ops! |
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| 16:05.31 | kira | ok |
| 16:05.34 | chops | XTF: man interfaces |
| 16:05.35 | kira | i did that |
| 16:05.42 | Welsh_Dwarf | Hi, I'm trying to scale up an exim setup to be able to send more than 50000 messages per hour (100 000 would be ideal), I'm running on a 2xXeon Core Duo with 4Gb ram and not much in the way of anything else using the machine |
| 16:05.43 | Hydroxide | kira: and then type nano /etc/wvdial.conf or whatever the filename is |
| 16:05.43 | spx2 | abrotman, for your information fromtodos is the package I was searching for,and if you don't know just say you don't know ... |
| 16:05.47 | wols_ | liable: whoever it was, he should get a head exam |
| 16:05.52 | Hydroxide | kira: put in the stuff you want to put there |
| 16:05.59 | abrotman | spx2: you were shown how to find out yourself .. which isn't a bad thing |
| 16:06.04 | chops | XTF: Add an interface called eth0:1 (or whatever); that'll be an aliased interface that will also run on the eth0 hardware |
| 16:06.08 | wols_ | spx2: if you are too lazy to search... |
| 16:06.12 | Hydroxide | kira: then press ctrl-X to quit and choose yes when it asks you to save |
| 16:06.17 | spx2 | abrotman, I was not "shown" , you tried lamentably to "show" |
| 16:06.18 | kira | hydroxide how to put text in there? |
| 16:06.18 | abrotman | grendal_prime: i don't use vmware for debian installs |
| 16:06.22 | Hydroxide | kira: just type |
| 16:06.28 | abrotman | spx2: please stop complaining .. you what you needed |
| 16:06.30 | grendal_prime | bummer |
| 16:06.32 | spx2 | wols_, Ive just searched google and found my answer |
| 16:06.45 | liable | wols_: no shit |
| 16:06.45 | spx2 | abrotman, you were just kicked from the channel from beeing a jackass ,fuck off |
| 16:06.48 | kira | hydroxide: you mean ctrl+x to quit after saving |
| 16:06.54 | abrotman | spx2: aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search dos2unix |
| 16:07.01 | kira | it is what I needed |
| 16:07.01 | kira | thanks man |
| 16:07.04 | Hydroxide | kira: well, ctrl+x is just to quit, but it'll give you a chance to save |
| 16:07.07 | Hydroxide | kira: no problem |
| 16:07.12 | spx2 | abrotman, couldn't you have written that as the first reply ? |
| 16:07.16 | kira | iyes, in VI editor right? |
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| 16:07.23 | wols_ | spx2: fyi, abrotman is an ops. he wasn't kicked (not lately) |
| 16:07.25 | abrotman | spx2: /msg dpkg search .. gives you multiple methods to find it |
| 16:07.31 | Hydroxide | kira: this is nano, not VI, but it serves the same purpose while being easier to use for people who are new to linux |
| 16:07.33 | liable | great, i have just discovered that a card i bought is useless.. |
| 16:07.38 | kira | VIM |
| 16:07.43 | grendal_prime | abrotman: you got bounced? doesnt make any sence |
| 16:07.44 | abrotman | spx2: packages.debian.org is another method where you can search |
| 16:07.47 | abrotman | grendal_prime: no |
| 16:07.51 | grendal_prime | anyway... |
| 16:07.51 | cahoot | playing poker? liable |
| 16:07.52 | kira | okaaaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 16:07.53 | spx2 | ok I will use those |
| 16:07.58 | Hydroxide | kira: nano is also easier than VIM for new linux users |
| 16:08.00 | kira | thanks, you are my hero |
| 16:08.00 | twiggz | Im not new to linux and I love nano. |
| 16:08.03 | gordonjcp | spx2: people in here tend not to have time to handhold you through the minutiae |
| 16:08.05 | wols_ | grendal_prime: spx is talking a lot out of his ass, that's all |
| 16:08.06 | spx2 | abrotman, thanks,sorry for disturbing and assaulting you |
| 16:08.06 | Hydroxide | kira: Vi and Vim are great, but they take getting used to |
| 16:08.07 | kira | reboooting!!!! |
| 16:08.08 | twiggz | or Joe. |
| 16:08.10 | Hydroxide | bye kira |
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| 16:08.23 | gordonjcp | spx2: what you'll find is that if you ask something, someone will give you the nudge in the right direction you need |
| 16:08.27 | XTF | chops: And then also allow-hotplug eth0:1? |
| 16:08.27 | liable | cahoot: unfortunately not, but i did win $500 on blackjack the other week :) |
| 16:08.37 | chops | XTF: Shouldn't be necessary |
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| 16:08.48 | Hydroxide | see? just be friendly and don't assume that they're in the wrong channel or otherwise being uncooperative :) |
| 16:08.54 | wols_ | XTF: auto is usually better |
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| 16:08.59 | grendal_prime | see..thats why i like this channel..you harrass...you apologize all is good.. |
| 16:09.02 | chops | XTF: I would guess that allow-hotplug is a directive that applies to the actual hardware, not the interface |
| 16:09.07 | wols_ | Hydroxide: where is the fun in that? |
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| 16:09.34 | grendal_prime | ok is there a command for checking the rw status of a partion.. |
| 16:09.37 | Hydroxide | wols_: being serious for a minute, the fun is in helping people with their problems using their debian system |
| 16:09.42 | XTF | chops: Me too, but without that I don't see the second IP address. |
| 16:09.51 | Hydroxide | wols_: that's the main purpose of this channel, after all |
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| 16:09.56 | slidesinger | php5-gd indirectly has x11-common as a dependency. How much will x11-common impact my server? |
| 16:09.59 | grendal_prime | thats a silly question actually i know that one |
| 16:10.20 | Quibus | !fqdn |
| 16:10.20 | dpkg | somebody said fqdn was Fully Qualified Domain Name, or the entire DNS identifier for a host, 'foo.example.org' |
| 16:10.25 | Hydroxide | slidesinger: pretty much not at all, other than using a trivial amount of disk space |
| 16:10.35 | slidesinger | Hydroxide: thanks. |
| 16:10.38 | Hydroxide | np |
| 16:10.47 | Quibus | Can someone help me to stop apache2 nagging about FQDN's? It says it can't reliably determine it, since a few weeks. |
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| 16:11.01 | Hydroxide | Quibus: add a ServerName directive |
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| 16:11.30 | Hydroxide | Quibus: to the config file (I think it's either /etc/apache2/httpd.conf or /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, whichever one seems like it has most of the stuff in it) |
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| 16:11.46 | Hydroxide | Quibus: it should be ServerName the.full.hostname.of.your.machine.including.domain |
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| 16:11.58 | wols_ | httpd.conf is very empty |
| 16:12.09 | Hydroxide | wols_: so it would be the other one I said |
| 16:12.32 | wols_ | slidesinger: basically not at all |
| 16:12.42 | wols_ | oops. very late |
| 16:12.58 | slidesinger | heh, I've done that. |
| 16:13.08 | chops | Hydroxide: I still believe she's running DSL, not Debian. "(10:58:35 AM) chops: kira: You should ask the DSL people for support, then" "(10:58:59 AM) kira: i know, but it is debian based" |
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| 16:13.21 | chops | Hydroxide: That said, I won't try to stop anyone else from helping her :-) |
| 16:13.29 | Hydroxide | chops: "the DSL people" == the ISP, who generally won't give support for Linux issues |
| 16:13.40 | Hydroxide | chops: that's how I interpreted it, which is at least as likely |
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| 16:14.27 | chops | Hydroxide: Hmm... looking again it looks more likely that you're right and I was hasty. |
| 16:14.46 | Hydroxide | chops: especially since it was an internet access problem :) |
| 16:14.53 | chops | Hydroxide: nod |
| 16:15.04 | jelly-home | !test |
| 16:15.04 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
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| 16:17.20 | debian__ | Can I open .bup, .ifo, or ,vob in vlc? |
| 16:17.36 | petemc | .vob, yes |
| 16:18.18 | debian__ | I got a movie from a friend, it had 5 .vob files... One at a time? |
| 16:18.46 | petemc | if you can get vlv to play more than file at a time... |
| 16:19.37 | cahoot | isn't one at a time the sensible way? |
| 16:20.00 | amphi | debian__: for i in *.vob; do mplayer "$i"; done ;) |
| 16:20.10 | Quibus | Hydroxide: thanks. There's no ServerName at all in any of the files there, is that normal? |
| 16:20.34 | nepbabu | debian__, $ mplayer dvd:// |
| 16:21.14 | hon | assume I have a machine at home. ISP does not give me static IP, so the machines IP changes quite frequently. What would you set up on it to find the IP whenever you need to ssh to it? |
| 16:21.35 | XTF | chops: It looks like it works if I also add eth0:1 to an auto line. But that's not equivalent to allow-hotplug. |
| 16:21.38 | Quibus | ah, it seems I replaced a file with an upgrade and it got the ServerName out |
| 16:21.56 | debian__ | Ok, thanks |
| 16:22.15 | amphi | hon: dyndns? |
| 16:22.18 | nepbabu | debian__, also, there's an option in vlc to read from the dvd. use that instead. |
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| 16:23.08 | Quibus | Hydroxide: problem solved by adding it to apache2/sites-available/default |
| 16:23.09 | Quibus | thanks |
| 16:23.36 | hon | amphi: what is the name of the package? is it in sid at all? |
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| 16:25.57 | cahoot | hon: https://www.dyndns.com/ |
| 16:26.03 | chops | XTF: Hm... I don't actually know what allow-hotplug does :-) |
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| 16:26.53 | tdn | How can a device (partition) exist in fdisk -l but not in /dev? I am trying to mount a partition from an USB harddisk enclosure, but this is what happens: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1062.html |
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| 16:27.35 | slidesinger | PHP Warning: Module 'gd' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 grep -r gd.so /etc/ returns /etc/php5/cli/conf.d/gd.ini:extension=gd.so /etc/php5/cli/php.ini:extension=gd.so and /etc/php5/conf.d/gd.ini:extension=gd.so, should I be commenting a couple of these out or is the error caused by something else? |
| 16:27.39 | jelly-home | tdn: it didn't exist at the time kernel tried to read the partition table? |
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| 16:28.02 | Agiofws | hi |
| 16:28.17 | Agiofws | someone tell me what to install to get this compiled |
| 16:28.17 | jelly-home | tdn: does "blockdev --rereadpt /dev/sdb" help? |
| 16:28.25 | Agiofws | svgTest.c:3:26: error: librsvg/rsvg.h: No such file or directory |
| 16:28.25 | Agiofws | svgTest.c:4:32: error: librsvg/rsvg-cairo.h: No such file or directory |
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| 16:28.34 | Agiofws | i have installed librsvg |
| 16:28.42 | hon | amphi, cahoot: I see. How does that work? do I need to pay them? |
| 16:28.44 | jelly-home | Agiofws: -dev? |
| 16:28.49 | XTF | chops: I assume it brings the interface up after it has been hot plugged. ;) |
| 16:28.52 | cahoot | hon: no |
| 16:28.54 | Agiofws | installed dev aswell |
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| 16:29.08 | jelly-home | Agiofws: and apt-file doesn't help? |
| 16:29.21 | Agiofws | #include <librsvg/rsvg.h> |
| 16:29.21 | Agiofws | #include <librsvg/rsvg-cairo.h> |
| 16:29.31 | XTF | chops: Do you know which package deals with interfaces? |
| 16:29.32 | Agiofws | apt-file ? |
| 16:30.09 | slidesinger | Agiofws: you running stable, testing or SID? |
| 16:30.13 | jelly-home | Agiofws: /msg dpkg search |
| 16:30.16 | chops | XTF: I don't happen to, no... you could try setting allow-hotplug on both and see if it helps |
| 16:30.18 | simonrvn | "as well" |
| 16:30.35 | Agiofws | slidesinger, jelly-home using lenny |
| 16:30.59 | chops | Agiofws: Sounds like the software you're compiling hasn't been configured properly (not adding /usr/include/librsvg-2 to the -I path or something) |
| 16:30.59 | simonrvn | "Sid" |
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| 16:31.54 | Agiofws | ? |
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| 16:32.25 | Agiofws | #include <librsvg/rsvg.h> |
| 16:32.25 | Agiofws | #include <librsvg/rsvg-cairo.h> |
| 16:32.29 | simonrvn | chops: warning: he's already in over his head |
| 16:32.40 | slidesinger | librsvg-2 is the package you want. Check out the following page: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 16:32.47 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:~/cairo$ g++ -o svgTest `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0` svgTest.c |
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| 16:32.52 | jelly-home | Agiofws: you already said that |
| 16:32.56 | slidesinger | Agiofws: librsvg-2 is the package you want. Check out the following page: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 16:33.17 | hon | cahoot: How does that work? do I need to install a special service on my home machine? |
| 16:33.24 | jelly-home | slidesinger: no, he wants librsvg2-dev |
| 16:33.34 | chops | Agiofws: You need to add arguments to that line which enable g++ to find the include files, I suspect |
| 16:33.54 | Agiofws | librsvg2-dev is already the newest version. |
| 16:33.54 | Agiofws | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 416 not upgraded. |
| 16:34.04 | Agiofws | ok |
| 16:34.08 | simonrvn | uh |
| 16:34.11 | cahoot | hon: no it's quite simple, just register on the site |
| 16:34.11 | slidesinger | Agiofws: and -dev |
| 16:34.24 | slidesinger | Ooops, already been said. |
| 16:34.30 | Agiofws | kk |
| 16:34.32 | hon | cahoot: thanks a lot :) |
| 16:34.40 | cahoot | hon: well you probably want a small tool to autoupdate |
| 16:34.56 | jelly-home | Agiofws: in short, you need to add `pkg-config --cflags --libs librsvg-2.0` as well |
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| 16:35.21 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.23 | Agiofws | maybe |
| 16:35.31 | Agiofws | yeah |
| 16:35.35 | Agiofws | right +1 |
| 16:36.32 | jelly-home | Agiofws: also, why are you using a C++ compiler to build and link a C program? |
| 16:36.38 | hon | cahoot: is such a tool in debian? |
| 16:36.51 | cahoot | hon: yes |
| 16:36.58 | simonrvn | jelly-home: he wants to be l33t |
| 16:37.03 | hon | cahoot: great. thanks. |
| 16:37.18 | cahoot | hon: dyndns-client |
| 16:38.11 | liable | ddclient innit? |
| 16:38.39 | simonrvn | yeh. unless there's a new package named that ^^^ |
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| 16:38.56 | debian__ | Is it diffucult to setup a cluster? |
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| 16:39.31 | simonrvn | i've never done it, but i don't see why it would be hard |
| 16:39.46 | abrotman | liable: wasn't aware you had that many sheep |
| 16:39.46 | middayc | does anyone know what is wrong: I installed debian from netinst without "desktop environment" but when it stops booting screen gets filled with random horizontal upward floating lines.. If I press altctrldel it shuts down so it seems it still works backthere... what could be wrong.. I suspect somthn is wrong with gfx drivers but shouldn't I still be in cosole.. also Alt+Ctrl+F1 doesn't change anything (this is to get to console if I was in X right?) |
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| 16:40.09 | jelly-home | liable: it takes great amount of carefully applied ignorance to create a truly great CF |
| 16:40.15 | Arrick | someone give me a link to the debain netinst please? my dns is borked a the moment, so i need it to be by IP |
| 16:40.36 | petemc | Arrick: use another dns server |
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| 16:41.26 | liable | abrotman: no fair, you can tease me, and then when i tell you that you suck, you can +b me! |
| 16:42.00 | Arrick | I have the debian.org site up petemc but I cant find the cd/dvd's |
| 16:43.18 | petemc | Arrick: under getting debian, cd iso images, minimal cd, i386 |
| 16:43.50 | hon | liable: what is clusterfucks? do you do clusters? |
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| 16:43.57 | debian__ | Would an network card loose transfer speed after a few years? |
| 16:44.09 | liable | hon: heh, no. i just do fuckups :) |
| 16:44.21 | Arrick | either I am missing something or thats nowhere to be found on debian.org petemc ? |
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| 16:44.28 | liable | debian__: if its tubes get blocked i guess.. ;) |
| 16:44.33 | hon | heh. so do I. |
| 16:44.40 | petemc | Arrick: you're missing something, i told you what you need to click on |
| 16:44.42 | Arrick | grr my bac |
| 16:44.43 | Arrick | bad |
| 16:44.48 | Arrick | i had debain |
| 16:44.49 | Arrick | lolo |
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| 16:45.11 | Arrick | thats where I was wrong petemc sorry |
| 16:45.23 | petemc | that doesnt make much sense, but ok |
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| 16:45.46 | Arrick | I had a typo petemc of debain instead of debian |
| 16:45.51 | salvin | can i set xorg background? |
| 16:46.03 | hon | xsetroot ? |
| 16:46.08 | salvin | no |
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| 16:46.19 | debian__ | I cant seam to get more than a few hundred kbps form the 10mbps card... |
| 16:46.44 | salvin | hon, first |
| 16:47.02 | hon | what? |
| 16:47.24 | Pete_B | Hi. I have a Sarge print server where CUPS has disappeared. CUPS' error.log says "Full reload is required" and "LoadDevices: Backend did not respond within 30 seconds!", no "LoadPPDs..." and "Full reload complete". Anyone have any ideas please? |
| 16:47.30 | salvin | without X process |
| 16:47.48 | hon | debian__: is your card broken? are you sure it is operating system related? |
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| 16:48.09 | Arrick | debian__, thats typical |
| 16:48.17 | debian__ | hon: Dont know if it is broken, it is only too slow. |
| 16:48.26 | Quibus | see you later |
| 16:48.27 | Arrick | is that when you are trying to DL something? |
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| 16:48.39 | debian__ | Arrick: I shouldnt manage to get more than 500kbps from a 10mbps card? |
| 16:48.44 | Arrick | if so, its probably limits on the site you are DL'in from |
| 16:48.46 | salvin | hon, another question |
| 16:48.55 | Arrick | depends on what you are connecting to |
| 16:48.58 | debian__ | Arrick: Transfer stuff over local nettwork! |
| 16:49.00 | salvin | can xorg start with another background? |
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| 16:49.25 | Arrick | check the cabling, and the other card, and the switch, and the length between them debian__ ? |
| 16:49.25 | cahoot | debian__: cabling/connector? |
| 16:49.49 | hon | salvin: you want to change the default background of xorg, or want to change the background in an already running one? |
| 16:50.22 | debian__ | I have this setup debian-box->homeplug->router->wireless[54mbps]->another debian-box. |
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| 16:50.30 | cahoot | salvin: what do you mean by xorg? sure you don't have some wm avtive? |
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| 16:50.59 | Arrick | check the wireless signal debhelper ? |
| 16:51.01 | spal | the dpkg bot is gone? |
| 16:51.02 | Arrick | debian__, ^ |
| 16:51.03 | salvin | hon, the default background of xorg |
| 16:51.14 | spal | sorry, it's there |
| 16:51.17 | salvin | another background than grey grid |
| 16:51.41 | cahoot | salvin: so start a window manager |
| 16:51.44 | hon | salvin: do you have a session manager, e.g. gdm? |
| 16:51.58 | salvin | hon, entrance |
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| 16:52.22 | salvin | and first i see xorg background... |
| 16:53.00 | petemc | xorg background? |
| 16:53.06 | petemc | wouldnt that be twm or something? |
| 16:53.15 | salvin | entrance is the e17 desktop manager |
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| 16:53.26 | salvin | petemc, uff |
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| 16:53.37 | hon | salvin: do you compile it yourself? |
| 16:53.42 | debian__ | How can I get rid of all screensavers that locks sessions? |
| 16:53.52 | salvin | hon, i use debian |
| 16:53.57 | salvin | not gentoo :) |
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| 16:54.25 | hon | salvin: enlightenment dr17 is not released yet. are you using e16? |
| 16:54.55 | salvin | i use e17 cvs |
| 16:54.59 | hon | see. |
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| 16:55.30 | hon | first of all, I recommend you to use gdm at the moment. entrance is not in a good shape right now. |
| 16:55.37 | salvin | ah, compile enlightenment |
| 16:55.45 | middayc | which linux distro supports widest array of hardware. I am trying to install multiple variations of debian and ubuntu on compaq w6000 workstation since yesterday without any luck |
| 16:55.51 | salvin | no, i use debian repository |
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| 16:56.12 | hon | salvin: which debian repository? it is not in any *official* repository. |
| 16:56.25 | salvin | unofficial :) |
| 16:56.32 | salvin | edevelop.org |
| 16:57.01 | Pete_B | middayc: Debian Etch works fine on my w6000 |
| 16:57.13 | Pete_B | middayc: what's the problem? |
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| 16:58.18 | middayc | debian installed without problems but after the bot procedure is done Screen gets filled with random green lines that float up (like it would be in gfx mode) |
| 16:58.18 | hon | salvin: well, again, I recommend you to use gdm at the very moment. Don't you use any other gtk applications? |
| 16:58.49 | salvin | hon, however, is it possible that there isn't a config file for change the xorg root? |
| 16:58.57 | middayc | but I installed it with and withouth "desktop environment" |
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| 16:59.23 | middayc | and I tried alt ctrl F1 to get to console in case I was not in it.. |
| 16:59.33 | hon | salvin: there is this file: e17/apps/entrance/data/config/build_config.sh.in |
| 16:59.42 | Pete_B | middayc: are you saying that as soon as you first boot into the graphical interface the screen looks all wrong? |
| 16:59.44 | salvin | hon, yes, but i haven't gnome libs |
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| 17:00.38 | middayc | no I try to boot to console (I didn't install "desktop env").. and when the booting is done screen goes to that random lines floating mode.. |
| 17:00.41 | hon | if you need, you can get the cvs version, modify that file, and rebuild entrance_config.cfg |
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| 17:01.13 | Pete_B | middayc: I don't know what that is |
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| 17:01.32 | hon | well, there was an entrance_<something> for editing entrance settings |
| 17:01.57 | Pete_B | middayc: why don't you install a desktop environment, is it to be a server? does it do this with both Debian and ubuntu? |
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| 17:02.13 | salvin | hon, yes, entrance_edit |
| 17:02.40 | salvin | but entranced call Xsession |
| 17:02.51 | Skept | Hi, when I tried to mount an iso, I got this error "mount: Not a directory" and dmesg says "Interleaved files not (yet) supported/.File unit size != 0 for ISO file (363648)." What does it mean? |
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| 17:03.01 | salvin | where can i modify the xroot? |
| 17:03.06 | Heavy-D | Hey guys silly question... any idea how to make an ip address change take affect? I changed the configuration in /etc/network/interfaces and then did a "/etc/init.d/networking restart" but that didn't seem to work. Any ideas? |
| 17:03.06 | hon | salvin: well, you should ask in #e about modifying entrance_config |
| 17:03.10 | middayc | Pete_B: I installed it with DE at first but it was exactly the same as when I then reinstalled withouth desktop |
| 17:03.28 | salvin | hon, ok, i try |
| 17:03.33 | hon | salvin: I don't have entrance to check it now. |
| 17:03.45 | Pete_B | middayc: sounds like the video setting is too high for the monitor, tho I can't explain how that could be if you've done a standard install |
| 17:04.05 | Skept | Heavy-D: Try ip addr fl dev eth0 ; then ip addr add and ip ro add |
| 17:04.27 | hon | salvin: but please take this as advice, that entrance is not very well at the moment, unlike the rest of e17. |
| 17:04.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | Heavy-D: that should have done it... but you can also do ifdown <interface> ; ifup <interface> |
| 17:05.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... which should do the same.. |
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| 17:05.16 | middayc | Pete_B: ubuntu doens't do this with screen but doesn't install (or boot from live CD), it stops somewhere in the middle.. and waits... I tried server and desktop edition v7 and v6 |
| 17:05.27 | daya | My vi editor doesn't highlight syntax, and words . How do I change the setting to do it |
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| 17:05.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | !vim |
| 17:05.45 | dpkg | i heard vim is the only true editor, or does syntax highlighting, has graphical X interface. Extremely popular vi clone that does syntax highlighting or don't forget to get .vimrc file from http://www.vim.org or the best thing since sliced bread, an editor that rocks your socks!!!, or something very cool, said because we need to have as long a block of text as the <emacs> factoid, or see <vim syntax highlighting> |
| 17:05.52 | Pete_B | middayc: try a different monitor. I give up. |
| 17:06.12 | Heavy-D | CutMeOwnThroat: Thanks i'll give that a shot next time |
| 17:06.13 | middayc | Pete_B: just to be sure.. how do I get from X to console mode in case I am somehow in X while that lines float? |
| 17:06.39 | Pete_B | middayc: Ctrl+Alt+F1 through to F6, F7 being where X is |
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| 17:06.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: so... can you log in or not? |
| 17:07.12 | Pete_B | middayc: but if it happens when in X but not console you want to be trying Ctrl+Alt+- to lower the screen resolution |
| 17:07.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | even if there is no image, you should be able to type username+password if you are on the console |
| 17:07.33 | middayc | no, I see the normal boot procedure but when it stops scractching the disc I get those lines , no login or anything |
| 17:07.44 | middayc | aha .. I wil try thjat |
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| 17:08.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: that's not what I meant... see above |
| 17:08.38 | Pete_B | middayc: or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf's resolutions. Ctrl+Alt+- / + will only cycle thru those you have entered in that file. |
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| 17:09.33 | middayc | but if I didn't choose desktop envir. I think I don't have xorg even installed .. |
| 17:09.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: Ctrl-G should make a beeping sound when you're logged in - not on a login screen, though |
| 17:10.06 | middayc | (I meant didn't choose when I was installing debian) |
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| 17:10.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: on the other hand, when you boot into console, by default nothing changes anything about text output |
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| 17:11.32 | middayc | yes that is what's strange to me ... because it shouldn't change any display modes I imagine |
| 17:11.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: so either you get a hang unrelated to graphics/text output, which would mean you have faulty hardware, or it starts X |
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| 17:12.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: you should try if you can login "blind" over the console, and/or over network |
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| 17:13.05 | whyx | hi |
| 17:13.35 | whyx | i've installed debian etch with netinstall iso |
| 17:13.39 | middayc | I tried nad I think I could login .. |
| 17:14.02 | whyx | and i've a problem with gnome: System exception: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 |
| 17:14.21 | whyx | can you help me please? |
| 17:14.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: does ctrl-G produce a beep? also - does echo ctrl-v ctrl-g produce a beep when you hit return? |
| 17:15.04 | abrotman | whyx: how did you install gnome? |
| 17:15.16 | middayc | I saw now.. Last thing I see before it changes to this is "starting portmap (server - I think)" |
| 17:15.28 | whyx | abrotman, with netinstall Desktop Ambient |
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| 17:16.06 | middayc | aha ... after I blindly login it beeps on ctrl G , before not |
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| 17:16.14 | abrotman | whyx: what is Ambient? |
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| 17:16.41 | xuser | was the correct way to downgrade a pkg in sid? |
| 17:16.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: if yes, you're probably logged in - you could try SVGAtextmode then (probably needs to be installed 1st, though) |
| 17:17.23 | whyx | abrotman, sorry :D |
| 17:17.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: apt-get install svgatextmode |
| 17:17.27 | abrotman | whyx: normally you aptitude install gnome |
| 17:17.35 | whyx | abrotman, Desktop Environment |
| 17:17.39 | middayc | should I type apt-get install SVGAtextmode to isntall it? .. aha you already said |
| 17:18.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | middayc: and need to type y :) |
| 17:18.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | or at least one more enter |
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| 17:19.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | just calling SVGATextMode without options resets graphics card... normally it's used to switch console to higher text resolution... |
| 17:19.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | need to be root to use SVGATextMode, it seems |
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| 17:21.16 | middayc | I tried but I am not sure if I installed it or not... I will login as root |
| 17:21.45 | middayc | (thanks a lot for helping me, I hope I am not taking too much of your time) |
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| 17:24.55 | middayc | uh ... I need to disconnect here to connect that comp to net to apt-get.. I will be back THANKS! |
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| 17:29.39 | arcticpenguin380 | how often is a new release of debian released |
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| 17:35.33 | xand | arcticpenguin380: when they're ready |
| 17:35.37 | xand | every few years maybe |
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| 17:35.45 | middayc_ | nothing happened ... I don't know maybe I didn't manage to isntall it .. I tried few times but had no clue what was going on |
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| 17:36.47 | neo2k | so, you guys use etch or lenny for your desktop needs ? |
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| 17:37.27 | simonrvn | who's "you guys"? |
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| 17:37.44 | neo2k | well, could be you |
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| 17:38.13 | arcticpenguin380 | so packages could get REALLY old in debian? |
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| 17:38.25 | simonrvn | no, couldn't. i'm not here. |
| 17:38.45 | snacky | me neither |
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| 17:39.07 | simonrvn | arcticpenguin380: #define OLD |
| 17:39.07 | dondelelcaro | arcticpenguin380: the stable release stays as it is except for security fixes until the next stable release. |
| 17:39.23 | dondelelcaro | arcticpenguin380: in general, if you're actually doing something mission critical with your machine, that's what you want. |
| 17:39.45 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: or stable & 1/2 |
| 17:39.47 | RichiH | ;) |
| 17:40.04 | RichiH | simonrvn: thouroughness? ;) |
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| 17:40.23 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: the etch-and-a-half release is most likely just going to be a new installer, new kernel, and a couple of packages. |
| 17:40.31 | eimajenthat | hello, I'm remastering a Knoppix to perform a very specific task (run a single script I've written), and I'm stripping out all the packages I don't need (most of them), but somewhere along the way, I accidentally removed the ability to resolve DNS, so I can't ping any domain names anymore. What package do I need to put back to fix this? Is it dnsutils? Or another? |
| 17:41.19 | simonrvn | RichiH: heh :). rules file ran build target and now running binary target :/. kind of a waste if it's the same stuff... and debuild ignore my ccache settings |
| 17:41.49 | simonrvn | ignores* |
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| 17:42.14 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: i know. but more than just security |
| 17:42.53 | dondelelcaro | it's also not clear whether etch-and-a-half will involve changes in the archive |
| 17:42.56 | simonrvn | what's this "etch-and-a-half" stuff? i read something on l.d.user earlier about something having to do with this |
| 17:43.01 | RichiH | simonrvn: that's it! you defined a negative cache, everything got deleted & now it needs to rebuild |
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| 17:43.21 | RichiH | simonrvn: very roughly, it is a new kernel so etch will support more & newer hardware |
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| 17:43.43 | simonrvn | oh that's all? probably a newer udev too |
| 17:44.31 | RichiH | simonrvn: nothing that would require larger changes in the rest of etch |
| 17:44.43 | RichiH | simonrvn: the chunks that are really really needed will be upgraded, though |
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| 17:54.16 | aboyz | anyone know why my machine is using swap, when my real memory is not used up? I assigned 80% of my memory into mysql. Here is what I'm getting from NAGIOS. Ram : 86%, Swap : 90% : 99, 90 : CRITICAL ? anyone know why my RAM is 86% and swap is 90% why is it using swap? if I still have like 14% left on my real memory. |
| 17:55.07 | simonrvn | caching. completely normal. |
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| 17:56.32 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: if a process is not being used actively, swaping it out is the way to go. |
| 17:56.49 | dondelelcaro | (or really, memory page isn't being used actively) |
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| 17:57.00 | simonrvn | yuppers |
| 17:57.03 | aboyz | dondel . what do you mean?? |
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| 17:57.16 | aboyz | simonrv. why is it normal. but its hitting almost 99% swap |
| 17:57.20 | aboyz | and my swap is only like 1G |
| 17:57.30 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: then you probably don't have enough swap. |
| 17:57.31 | aboyz | I got 16G real memory |
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| 17:57.59 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: and yes, if you've got 16G of real memory, you should have on the order of 8-16G of swap. |
| 17:58.11 | aboyz | I see what YOu mean |
| 17:58.16 | aboyz | but they already partition it |
| 17:58.24 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: so use a swapfile |
| 17:58.40 | simonrvn | ugh, 15 GB swapfile |
| 17:58.44 | sp | aboyz: also, you can use multiple swap files/partitions |
| 17:58.46 | madclicker | hi, how can i make grub to boot from an md device? |
| 17:58.53 | simonrvn | (i'd split that up) |
| 17:58.59 | aboyz | dondel. how do i creat a swap file? |
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| 17:59.32 | simonrvn | madclicker: with / in raid? gotta use an initrd |
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| 17:59.47 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: dd if=/dev/zero of=fooswapfile count=whatever; mkswapfs fooswapfile; swapon fooswapfile; |
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| 18:00.14 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: then edit /etc/fstab to add the swapfile on boot. |
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| 18:00.25 | aboyz | do I need to reboot my server? |
| 18:00.25 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 18:00.29 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: no. |
| 18:00.35 | simonrvn | no |
| 18:00.40 | aboyz | I see thanks!! |
| 18:01.01 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: the only reason you need to reboot is if you change kernels. (and with kexec, even that is changing) |
| 18:01.21 | aboyz | so the best way is to add more swap? |
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| 18:01.25 | aboyz | how many more swap should I put in? |
| 18:01.36 | madclicker | simonrvn, i got a md0 = /boot md1 = / |
| 18:01.38 | salvin | hon, solved :) |
| 18:02.37 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: don't you need a special cpu to do that? (switching kernels over with no reboot) |
| 18:02.45 | madclicker | simonrvn, initrd? |
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| 18:02.54 | simonrvn | yes |
| 18:03.03 | sp | madclicker: grub should work fine with those, however, you need to run grub-install for both devices in the array to have a working bootloader in case one drive fails |
| 18:03.03 | simonrvn | !initrd |
| 18:03.03 | dpkg | somebody said initrd was initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230, or make-kpkg --initrd |
| 18:03.43 | dondelelcaro | simonrvn: there's no inherent reason why you would, but it's possible that the current implementation requires it |
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| 18:04.16 | simonrvn | like virtualisation support for instance |
| 18:04.28 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: that would be neat, tbh |
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| 18:05.23 | Led_Zeppelin | does anyone know how to ignore alias looks up using host? I have a alias, and I want it to do a PTR lookup |
| 18:05.57 | dondelelcaro | Led_Zeppelin: so do -t PTR or whatever |
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| 18:07.41 | el_alexluna | Hi all! |
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| 18:12.05 | el_alexluna | how i know with which options is compiled a package? |
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| 18:14.18 | dondelelcaro | el_alexluna: the canonical way is to look at the source package and see directly. Otherwise, occasionally it's documented in /usr/share/doc/<package> |
| 18:14.57 | el_alexluna | i need to download the source of the package? |
| 18:15.06 | dondelelcaro | el_alexluna: depends; what package do you want to know about? |
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| 18:15.15 | el_alexluna | freeradius |
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| 18:19.18 | dondelelcaro | el_alexluna: and what options in particular did you want to know about? |
| 18:19.41 | Cratos | After my motherboard got switched my NICS are found as eth0 and eth1 and after a few seconds they are known as eth2 and eth3, how do I prevent that? |
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| 18:20.10 | dondelelcaro | Cratos: change /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persitent-net.rules (or whatever it's called) appropriatley. |
| 18:20.26 | Cratos | Thanks! |
| 18:21.39 | simonrvn | !z25 |
| 18:21.39 | dpkg | i heard z25 is as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. If you don't want udev to touch your interface names, remove that file and z45_persistent-net-generator.rules in the same directory. See <forcedeth mac> |
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| 18:23.19 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: z25 =~ s/If you don't want udev to touch your interface names, remove that file and z45_persistent-net-generator.rules in the same directory.// |
| 18:23.19 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
| 18:23.42 | erik2 | tar, cryptic: what does this mean: tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 18:23.45 | dondelelcaro | you always want udev to deal with them. |
| 18:24.09 | dondelelcaro | erik2: that means there was an error, but tar kept working until it got to the end of the archive. |
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| 18:24.19 | dondelelcaro | erik2: there should be the actual error somewhere above it. |
| 18:24.25 | erik2 | ok |
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| 18:25.18 | erik2 | dondeelcar: correct. it scrolled off, of course :-) ty |
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| 18:27.59 | cesar_ | hello people |
| 18:28.22 | Nuxis_ | someone know what to do? I got NVIDIA GeForce 6200, and I installed the driver on the debian way. I got this message; http://pastebin.com/m78bd701b |
| 18:28.25 | cesar_ | have a problem with login kdm in ltsp |
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| 18:29.17 | cesar_ | I try login from client terminal server and I can see kdm |
| 18:29.45 | cesar_ | I type user and password and try loginng |
| 18:29.50 | cesar_ | but |
| 18:30.17 | cesar_ | kdm login is present |
| 18:30.20 | jetscreamer | Nuxis_: that's a new one |
| 18:30.36 | jetscreamer | Nuxis_: did you check the docs like it says? |
| 18:30.41 | cesar_ | I can't logging in kde |
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| 18:30.53 | cesar_ | in the log |
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| 18:31.10 | cesar_ | tailf /var/log/kdm.log |
| 18:31.31 | cesar_ | this is the message |
| 18:31.34 | cesar_ | Xlib: extension "XInputExtension" missing on display "ltsp.local:1.0". |
| 18:31.36 | Nuxis_ | jetscreamer: yea, it say that it it conflict with a other device |
| 18:31.36 | jetscreamer | you need to enable xforwarding or some other word i can't remember cesar_ ...NO |
| 18:31.39 | jetscreamer | no paste |
| 18:31.47 | cesar_ | Failed to get list of devices |
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| 18:32.01 | Nuxis_ | and I need to change the card to a other slot. but I dont have a other slot ;! |
| 18:32.04 | jetscreamer | Nuxis_: then it has an irq conflict |
| 18:32.18 | Nuxis_ | yea jetscreamer but dunno how to solve it |
| 18:32.19 | cesar_ | where I need xfordwarding? |
| 18:32.19 | jetscreamer | Nuxis_: what you probably need to do is move one of the other cards |
| 18:32.35 | jetscreamer | cesar_: i'm not up on it, but i think you need something like that |
| 18:32.38 | cesar_ | in sshd_config? |
| 18:32.38 | Nuxis_ | jetscreamer: its an agp card. And I only have 1 slot |
| 18:32.47 | jetscreamer | Nuxis_: no, the other cards.. pci |
| 18:33.01 | Nuxis_ | lemme check there is one ;1 |
| 18:33.26 | jetscreamer | Nuxis_: or set the irq usage in bios, check the bios settings, check for apic (apic == more irq's) et al |
| 18:33.27 | cesar_ | mmm... I'm not shure... but I think that not is the problem |
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| 18:33.30 | Nuxis_ | jetscreamer: the only card in the computer is that AGP graphic card |
| 18:33.42 | Nuxis_ | k jetscreamer I reboot and check it |
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| 18:33.58 | jetscreamer | what chipset is the mb |
| 18:34.12 | jetscreamer | but i gtg |
| 18:34.15 | nwm165 | hello. when I try to boot the debian4.0r2-x386 CD1 it shows some booting lines and then my screen turns black/blank and nothing happens.. whats wrong? |
| 18:34.45 | cesar_ | anyway |
| 18:35.05 | jetscreamer | hit f2 and try adding vga=normal at the end of the boot: line, nwm165 |
| 18:35.22 | jetscreamer | iirc f2 works |
| 18:35.26 | cesar_ | I will see xforwarding |
| 18:35.29 | cesar_ | :-) |
| 18:35.30 | nwm165 | jetscreamer: thx Ill try |
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| 18:35.47 | jetscreamer | nwm165: recent ati or nvidia? |
| 18:36.13 | nwm165 | I have an integrated intel X3100 |
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| 18:36.22 | jetscreamer | recent... |
| 18:36.32 | dryrot | im at the Reiser trial |
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| 18:36.39 | jetscreamer | might help, might not.. it's helped me with that |
| 18:36.50 | nwm165 | ok well its worth trying thx |
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| 18:37.09 | jetscreamer | 'believes' |
| 18:37.18 | jetscreamer | and there is no spoon |
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| 18:43.35 | xingu | is there a sexy way of finding out why a package thinks it wants to be removed during an upgrade? |
| 18:43.59 | xingu | I can easily see _what_ packages are going to be removed; but I want to know _why_, without doing the donkey work myself |
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| 18:45.30 | Jyzygzy- | Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ? |
| 18:45.37 | Jyzygzy- | That sounds preposterous to me! |
| 18:45.49 | Jyzygzy- | http://www.danielandrade.net/2008/01/29/funny-story-user-dont-believe-linux-can-run-without-windows |
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| 18:49.28 | aboyz | i just installed debian etch. i installed mysqld, but when i try to telnet from another company to it telnet Ip 3306. i get a connection refuse. why is that? by default is there a firewall when i did the base installation? i did a iptables --flush . still connection refuse. any way to see what firewall is still running? |
| 18:50.15 | abrotman | aboyz: i believe mysql does not listen to tcp by default |
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| 18:51.44 | hark | xingu: try aptitude why-not/why foo |
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| 18:53.11 | xingu | hark: cheers |
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| 18:54.06 | jmut | anyone used xinclude..I miss this bin and no idea in which package I can find. dpkg -l '*xinclude*' says no matches |
| 18:54.10 | aboyz | abrotman it does |
| 18:54.21 | abrotman | aboyz: netstat -an | grep 3306 |
| 18:54.25 | abrotman | i think tha'ts the right port |
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| 18:54.52 | aboyz | i'm getting this tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 18:55.01 | abrotman | that's localhost .. not the eth0 |
| 18:55.04 | click170 | Could anyone point me to anything related to porting apps for/to MIPS? Or porting in general for that matter, if porting to MIPS is too specific? |
| 18:55.05 | aboyz | hummm |
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| 18:55.15 | aboyz | so how do i connect to it on an other server? |
| 18:55.17 | minus198 | Hi.. Can someone guide me how I manually partition the drive with the GUI installer? I want a separate partition for /home/ and a separate for / |
| 18:55.29 | minus198 | How big should the / partition be? |
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| 18:56.30 | minus198 | If I do the "Guided - Use entire disk" and "separate home partition". The installer recommends 7 GB for the / partition. Is that enough? |
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| 18:56.47 | nollidj | minus198: are you putting /opt, /var, /usr, ... on the filesystem with / ? |
| 18:56.51 | xingu | click170: openwrt tends to target mips |
| 18:56.56 | abrotman | !ig |
| 18:56.57 | dpkg | I heard "ig" is Installation Guide...see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0 stable, or http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1). Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 18:57.05 | minus198 | nollidj, I guess so.. |
| 18:57.07 | nollidj | minus198: it will depend on what you are using the machine for |
| 18:57.14 | minus198 | nollidj, workstation |
| 18:57.41 | nollidj | if you have not checked the installation guide, then I would do so. I think it would do you find. The issued if you want to install a lot of heavyweight games or something similar outside of /home |
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| 19:01.08 | Nyle | ok |
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| 19:01.09 | Nyle | hi |
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| 19:01.30 | ailgarb | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.43 | chemokid | any mysql admins using ext3 as their file system? i'm trying to decide on what mkfs.ext3 options would be best for a server using myisam and innodb. |
| 19:01.44 | aboyz | abortoman |
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| 19:01.49 | aboyz | how do i make mysql listen to all IP |
| 19:01.51 | aboyz | instead of localhost |
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| 19:01.56 | aboyz | is that in my.cnf? |
| 19:02.35 | amphi | abortoman? |
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| 19:02.48 | Nyle | lol |
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| 19:02.56 | Faragd | hi |
| 19:03.11 | Faragd | is it possible to list all files over 100 Mb from a folder? |
| 19:03.21 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: yes |
| 19:03.28 | Faragd | dondelelcaro: how? :D |
| 19:03.32 | Faragd | dont say man find |
| 19:03.37 | Faragd | or man ls |
| 19:03.40 | Faragd | please |
| 19:03.40 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: you guessed it. man find. |
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| 19:03.46 | Faragd | find |
| 19:03.46 | nollidj | Faragd: info find |
| 19:03.47 | Faragd | ? |
| 19:03.49 | Faragd | really |
| 19:03.52 | phorce1 | I use one site that REALLY doesn't like FF based browsers. What's a good one in the Debian repository that is NOT based on the FF engine? |
| 19:04.03 | Nyle | letme take a guess at what 'find' does |
| 19:04.04 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: I'll even give you a hint. You're looking for the -type and -size options. |
| 19:04.06 | amphi | w3m ;) |
| 19:04.07 | chemokid | konqueror? |
| 19:04.12 | Nyle | it _finds_... things? |
| 19:04.12 | abrotman | phorce1: dillo ? |
| 19:04.15 | bragliozzo | elinks? |
| 19:04.23 | nollidj | wget |
| 19:04.29 | jmut | where can I read about disabling services... |
| 19:04.29 | abrotman | phorce1: if you have testing/untsable .. you can use webkit |
| 19:04.31 | jelly-home | phorce1: how good does it need to be? |
| 19:04.37 | phorce1 | apt-cache search web browser brings back a LOT of pages |
| 19:04.37 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: midori, etc. |
| 19:04.42 | Nyle | ff doesn't have an engine |
| 19:04.48 | Nyle | its based on mozilla/gecko |
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| 19:04.50 | phorce1 | jelly-home: seldom will use |
| 19:04.58 | Nyle | s/an/its own |
| 19:05.01 | jelly-home | phorce1: Konqueror could be acceptable |
| 19:05.07 | Nyle | I like links2 graphical |
| 19:05.26 | phorce1 | jelly-home: but the site is graphics/php intensive and I have no idea whats on the backend that crashes iceweasel |
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| 19:05.51 | jelly-home | phorce1: um... try and see what works |
| 19:06.56 | jelly-home | phorce1: there's also a well known nonfree browser, not available in Debian, but a free download. |
| 19:06.57 | phorce1 | I was looking for the names of the actual browsers to sort out of apt-cache search. Y'all have helped a great deal. I wanted to avoid loading another FF engine based browser |
| 19:07.05 | Faragd | dondelelcaro: but isn't the size prefix giving only the files that are exactly the sizr? |
| 19:07.06 | Faragd | e? |
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| 19:07.16 | phorce1 | opera |
| 19:07.19 | jelly-home | aye |
| 19:07.27 | phorce1 | I haven't played with opera in years |
| 19:07.39 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: no |
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| 19:08.02 | Faragd | find -size M[100] so this command should find all files over 100Mb |
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| 19:08.09 | Faragd | i get an error with ti |
| 19:08.16 | nollidj | jmut: check /etc/init.d/README , try installing and reading docs for sysv-rc-conf, and check also docs for tcpd and inetd/xinetd if you are using one of them |
| 19:08.24 | phorce1 | abrotman: running etch |
| 19:08.27 | Faragd | oh |
| 19:08.30 | Faragd | its an expression |
| 19:08.33 | jmut | nollidj: thanks |
| 19:08.34 | abrotman | phorce1: konq or dillo |
| 19:08.44 | jelly-home | Faragd: +100M |
| 19:08.53 | phorce1 | Nyle: too many graphics for links to do it justice I think |
| 19:09.02 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: find -size 100M would find files that are exactly 100M; however, you need to read the TESTS section of the find manpage, and read how numericals > and < or = are specified. |
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| 19:09.27 | Faragd | so find -size >100M |
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| 19:09.43 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: no. |
| 19:09.50 | Nyle | well I'm trying to pay some parking tickets online, but online it shows $150, but they send me in mail a paper saying the reduced it to $85. Thier system is not updated, and the ticket is due today! |
| 19:09.54 | Nyle | oh boy |
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| 19:09.57 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: find -size +100M; read the section of the manpage that I pointed out |
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| 19:10.06 | Nyle | thats a huge amount of ... LAG |
| 19:10.18 | Nyle | phorce1: konqueror is my main bruiser |
| 19:10.30 | Nyle | I use iceweasel for sites konq. can't display |
| 19:10.32 | abrotman | phorce1: another you might try .. though it usually doesn't work so well is amaya |
| 19:10.39 | phorce1 | Nyle: Pick up the phone and call it in. They should take the card over the phone for the reduced amount |
| 19:10.46 | Nyle | finally |
| 19:10.47 | Nyle | brb |
| 19:11.04 | Faragd | dondelelcaro: I know I might learn best if I searched myself but really, I'm in a quite of a hurry because I got to get some beer and someone is getting a massive email on our server |
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| 19:11.14 | phorce1 | abrotman: I played with amaya a while back and was pretty much intentionally avoiding it ;-) |
| 19:11.20 | abrotman | okay |
| 19:11.31 | nollidj | hotjava? cello? |
| 19:11.57 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: we're here to help you learn; if you need someone to do it for you, you can hire a consultant. |
| 19:12.13 | abrotman | nollidj: i don't think hotjava is developed anymore .. and it was *awful* |
| 19:12.26 | nollidj | i... used it... :( |
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| 19:12.31 | nollidj | (it was awful, though) |
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| 19:12.52 | abrotman | nollidj: i was saw it render a page in reverse order |
| 19:12.59 | abrotman | i once saw |
| 19:13.55 | nollidj | it was about as stable as netscape 4.5 in debian way back when, so i would alternate whenever i got sick of NS |
| 19:14.17 | abrotman | it was way worse than that |
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| 19:14.33 | nollidj | my memory may be foggy, but iirc that's why i used it |
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| 19:15.52 | Faragd | lol |
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| 19:16.44 | Faragd | haha |
| 19:16.49 | Faragd | what's wrong with this now |
| 19:16.49 | Faragd | find -size +100[M] |
| 19:17.19 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: brackets mean optional; you do't use them. |
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| 19:17.29 | Faragd | lol |
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| 19:17.35 | dondelelcaro | Faragd: compare what you've got with what I and jelly-home said about 30 lines ago |
| 19:17.38 | Faragd | yep |
| 19:17.44 | Faragd | I had head up my ass |
| 19:17.46 | Faragd | it works now |
| 19:17.55 | Faragd | thanks, I think I will remember that command for a long time |
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| 19:18.40 | phorce1 | iceweasel/FF restore session is cool. Every time I click a link on that site the browser crashes. I restore and discover that whatever I clicked worked (like posting a message to someone) but just causes the browser to crash before completing the page-reload. Installing konq and dillo now. |
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| 19:20.31 | chops | phorce1: I went through a similar cycle with galeon back in the day. I started it, it crashed after a bit, and I found the auto-restore. "Badass!", I thought. I was happy with galeon. |
| 19:20.48 | chops | phorce1: ... and then over the course of the next few days, I discovered that it had that feature because IT CRASHED ALL THE DAMN TIME. |
| 19:20.51 | chops | phorce1: :-) |
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| 19:22.44 | akuwamari | how can i use Crack command ? |
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| 19:23.06 | chops | phorce1: That said, I've found iceweasel to be quite stable with occasional exception for flash sites. You don't have any proprietary plugins installed, do you? |
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| 19:24.13 | phorce1 | chops: That's what I've found. Stable except for a very few sites. I think I installed the flash plugin but the site in question isn't using flash which is intriguing. |
| 19:24.29 | chops | phorce1: How do you know it isn't using flash? |
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| 19:25.52 | phorce1 | chops: Not unless it's buried deep in the .php. Not *obviously* using flash would be more appropriate. |
| 19:26.31 | chops | phorce1: Removing the flash plugin and trying again would be the first thing I'd try. Of course, if konq works for you, all the better... |
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| 19:28.51 | phorce1 | chops: I was just proven wrong. konq started raising cain about no flash plugin when I went to the site. I'll see how well the site works without it |
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| 19:29.38 | chops | phorce1: I understand gnash is supposed getting halfway usable nowadays (though I've never tried it myself) |
| 19:29.51 | chops | phorce1: But at least then you could have the satisfaction of filing a bug if your browser crashes :-) |
| 19:30.12 | mackss | it says my linux kernel is being held back from upgrade. Why would it be doing this? I am running debian sarge stable. |
| 19:30.24 | mackss | err etch!!!! not sarge sorry |
| 19:30.26 | chops | mackss: What are you doing when you get that message? |
| 19:30.32 | mackss | apt-get upgrade |
| 19:30.38 | chops | mackss: Tried dist-upgrade? |
| 19:30.52 | mackss | chops no, should i? |
| 19:31.01 | chops | mackss: Try it |
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| 19:31.16 | \amethyst | mackss: because it would have to uninstall some package (maybe modules?) in order to upgrade the kernel package |
| 19:31.35 | chops | mackss: Generally stable security upgrades don't change the set of packages that are installed (they'll only upgrade packages to newer versions without installing or removing anything), but for the few that do you need to do dist-upgrade instead |
| 19:31.47 | \amethyst | mackss: and apt-get upgrade will never remove existing packages |
| 19:31.48 | mackss | \amethyst: in that case should i use aptitude dist-upgrade ? |
| 19:31.56 | chops | mackss: E.g. if you have nvidia drivers installed, it may want to remove them since they're not compatible with the new kernel |
| 19:32.04 | \amethyst | mackss: yes, that's the difference, dist-upgrade will remove packages if it needs to |
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| 19:32.32 | mackss | chops: i have no idea. I don't use a monitor on it. It's only a server |
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| 19:33.49 | mackss | \amethyst, chops: http://pastebin.com/d57cb3ec6 |
| 19:33.55 | mackss | does that look ok? |
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| 19:34.11 | chops | mackss: That looks correct, yes |
| 19:34.28 | chops | mackss: You're getting a new kernel because the security upgrade changed the ABI number of the kernel is my interpretation |
| 19:35.06 | mackss | ah ok |
| 19:35.08 | mackss | i hit Y |
| 19:35.13 | mackss | and am crossing fingers |
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| 19:36.17 | mackss | chops, \amethyst: http://pastebin.com/d14209eff |
| 19:36.26 | mackss | it seems to have worked i now have a bash prompt |
| 19:37.01 | mackss | is line 15-17 ok? it kinda scares me |
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| 19:37.26 | phorce1 | chops: Ugly without flash. Guess i'll have to play and see if I can get flash working in konq then see if that starts causing konq to crash. |
| 19:37.41 | expose | I bought a camera. It should be supported. I get this output: http://paste.frubar.net/7512 but the device doesnt produce any output if i "cat /dev/video0" and applications also don't work. Hints? |
| 19:38.10 | chops | mackss: That's okay |
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| 19:38.24 | mackss | chops: is it normal that it isn't telling me to reboot? |
| 19:38.41 | chops | mackss: It is scarier than it needs to be; that just means that you don't have kernel source installed |
| 19:38.41 | mackss | every other time i do kernel updates it gives me the reminder |
| 19:38.56 | mackss | ah |
| 19:38.59 | chops | mackss: In this case it's not as essential, because it didn't replace the modules appropriate to your existing kernel |
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| 19:39.12 | mackss | oh i got lucky :D |
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| 19:39.23 | chops | mackss: You still need to reboot to get the security update, but your current kernel's functionality hasn't been impacted in any way (which is _not_ true of updates that don't change the ABI) |
| 19:39.43 | chops | mackss: Does that all make sense? |
| 19:40.02 | mackss | yes |
| 19:40.12 | chops | phorce1: My strong feeling is that it will get konq to crash. Good luck though. |
| 19:40.21 | mackss | weird, this may just be a coincidence but my server is being VERY slow over ssh |
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| 19:42.04 | mackss | chops, "shutdown -r now" would be a proper reboot command to get the security update right? |
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| 19:42.57 | chops | mackss: That should work, yes |
| 19:43.23 | chops | mackss: If you haven't rebooted in a while it might be best to make sure you're prepared in case something odd goes wrong |
| 19:43.38 | chops | mackss: In general rebooting works... but on a remote server sometimes you get surprises |
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| 19:43.58 | mackss | chops ya |
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| 19:46.12 | mackss | chops, seemed to have worked thanks |
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| 19:46.13 | mackss | bbiab |
| 19:46.23 | chops | tictac: uptime is in procps |
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| 19:47.21 | tictac | chops: thats not what im referring to. on some systems you have a timelog on the far left that shows you how long it takes to boot your system |
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| 19:47.41 | chops | tictac: Part of a graphical boot system you mean? |
| 19:47.56 | tictac | no. text based. |
| 19:48.07 | chops | tictac: Hm, I've never seen that, sorry... |
| 19:48.17 | tictac | :-\ |
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| 19:48.30 | hi__ | hello, i have an mp3 player, when plugged (usb) the uuid given by blkid is: /dev/sdc1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="0000-0000" TYPE="vfat". is there a way to give a uuid to this device? |
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| 19:53.26 | minus198 | wtf? Cant grub read from ReiserFS? |
| 19:55.54 | mbroeker | minus198, works fine with reiserfs |
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| 19:57.10 | minus198 | mbroeker, not here.. |
| 19:57.15 | minus198 | mbroeker, error17 |
| 19:57.20 | minus198 | GRUB error. |
| 19:57.33 | vlt | minus198: It already has to be reiserfs when installing grub ti mbr ... |
| 19:57.36 | vlt | to* |
| 19:57.52 | minus198 | what? |
| 19:58.02 | minus198 | what do you mean? |
| 19:58.25 | mbroeker | rub> root (hd0,0) |
| 19:58.26 | mbroeker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:59.06 | vlt | minus198: I think when you change the partition's fs type later grub possibly isn't prepared to read the new fs. |
| 19:59.22 | ks | why apt-cache search libvirt returns nothing for debian4 ? |
| 19:59.47 | minus198 | vlt, well.. its a completly new install.. how can it not be prepared to read resierfs? |
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| 20:00.49 | vlt | minus198: Ok, then it must something else ... What if you re-install grub? Still fails? |
| 20:01.25 | minus198 | vlt, I don't know.. I'm gonna reinstall the whole system and have a separate /boot partition |
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| 20:02.11 | eldowan | does intel's VT technology work with etch? |
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| 20:04.04 | vlt | Hello. When running the script http://pastebin.ca/895037 with libapache2-mod-php5 I get an unexpected output: "A:local:/var/www/foo\nA:GLOBAL:/". Running from CLI works fine (output "A:local:/var/www/foo\nA:GLOBAL:/var/www/foo"). Can anyone reproduce this with current Debian? |
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| 20:06.35 | antum | Hi, I'm not very good at bash scripting and I need to write a backup script... should I pursue it in here or would I be best to go somewhere like elance? |
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| 20:07.46 | nollidj | antum: can you use bash at all? how complicated a script are we talking? |
| 20:08.17 | petemc | antum: there are many, many backup scripts already |
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| 20:08.56 | antum | nollidj I've done some basic scripting before... i need a few folders compressed, a mysqldump and then i need it ftp'd to a backup server.... and then delete the old backup... |
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| 20:10.25 | chops | antum: Check out amanda if you haven't already |
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| 20:11.00 | antum | chops cool thanks! |
| 20:11.31 | rektide | can someone nslookup rektide.voodoowarez.com and tell me if it resolves? i just updated my bind9, and nslookup rektide.voodoowarez.com - localhost works, but for some reason it doesnt work when i omit the - localhost. why would my dns server, 4.2.2.2, be trying to resolve subdomains? |
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| 20:11.51 | rektide | i thought the subdomains would be handled by my own dns server, which has the new record |
| 20:11.53 | petemc | amanda seemed kinda complicated to me, same for bacula |
| 20:12.12 | eldowan | rektide: warez? I'm not sure thats in good taste |
| 20:12.27 | rektide | its a joke there is no illegal software available |
| 20:12.30 | rektide | a name is but a name |
| 20:12.34 | minus198 | Ok.. so I reinstalled after grub error 17. And now I get grub error 15 |
| 20:12.45 | eldowan | rektide: resolves 72.9.xxx |
| 20:12.47 | minus198 | I now have a /boot partition with ext3 |
| 20:12.52 | rektide | frankly it does WONDERS for my hit count. |
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| 20:23.11 | tarzeau | azeem-uni: why? |
| 20:23.21 | tarzeau | azeem-uni: that was for Azar |
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| 20:25.22 | abrotman | heh |
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| 20:32.44 | jorgenpt | Hi, anyone know a good way to upgrade chroots that're meant to be booted over PXE or whatnot? Just using chroot ... then aptitude upgrade isn't always as good, because it fails installing some packages that want to restart certain packages (like openssh, apache, console-setup, atd, etc) - because something is already listening on their port on the machine that hosts the chroot. |
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| 20:34.02 | xingu | jorgenpt: debian live? |
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| 20:34.41 | jorgenpt | xingu: no, is it better for these purposes? |
| 20:34.53 | jorgenpt | I currently use a debootstrapped system with pxelinux |
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| 20:35.45 | mkz | general question regarding memory limitations. It's been said that a 32-bit CPU is limited to accessing 4 GB of RAM per core. Is that statement true? |
| 20:36.16 | chops | mkz: In general, no. Many modern 32-bit processors have PAE, which allows >4GB of memory to be accessed by the kernel. |
| 20:36.26 | chops | mkz: You're still limited to 4 GB of memory per process, of course. |
| 20:37.05 | chops | mkz: Also, there's nothing per-core about the address space limitation; it's for all cores or none |
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| 20:37.33 | xingu | jorgenpt: just a stray thought; 1/ it is designed for building a target image on a build-host; 2/ it does its thing using a chroot; 3/ it caches and retains the build-time config |
| 20:37.40 | mkz | ok, so, 4GB per processor, which is a direct result of the number of addressable bits being 2^32 or 4,294,967,296 |
| 20:37.51 | chops | mkz: No, not per processor |
| 20:37.54 | rha_ | hi all |
| 20:37.58 | xingu | jorgenpt: it'd be a slight change to your design - you'd be rebaking, essentially reinstalling your chroot rather than upgrading it per-se |
| 20:37.58 | mkz | core, please clarify |
| 20:38.03 | chops | mkz: Not per core |
| 20:38.08 | xingu | jorgenpt: but with a bit of thought it could work reasonably well |
| 20:38.21 | chops | mkz: It has nothing to do with CPUs. It has to do with _process_es, which are a software-level abstraction. |
| 20:39.01 | chops | mkz: Each process can only access 4 GB of addressible memory |
| 20:39.21 | mkz | chops: hmm... I'm having a tough time with this distinction. Might there be more information somewhere that I could read up on (as opposed to expecting you to hold my hand through a discussion)? |
| 20:39.44 | chops | mkz: http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/UnixAndC/Unix/Processes.html |
| 20:39.45 | mkz | I was under the impressiong that a multi-core processor was simply multiple processors bound to a single chip |
| 20:39.56 | chops | mkz: It has nothing to do with CPUs, cores, or processors. |
| 20:39.59 | mkz | chops: thanks |
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| 20:41.10 | jorgenpt | xingu: Okay, thanks |
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| 20:41.36 | mkz | ok, then to restate - a single 32-bit process is limited to address space of 4GB, is that a correct statement? |
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| 20:41.54 | centyx | Hi. How can I start applications automatically in my xsession ( using gdm ) if my window manager has no method for doing so? |
| 20:42.03 | edico | why libc6 doesn't install the standard C library and I need libc6-dev for that? |
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| 20:42.58 | abrotman | edico: not everyone compiles stuff |
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| 20:44.44 | nvz | centyx: what I do is use the "Default Session" which is in the session menu of gdm or such. this utilizes the local config files such as ~/.Xsession where you can specify your session type |
| 20:45.22 | centyx | nvz: ah, ok |
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| 20:45.28 | nvz | centyx: you just put everything you want to start in the file, if the command stays running you need to background it with &, then put your wm last in the foreground and when it exits it will logout |
| 20:45.41 | nvz | centyx: for example: |
| 20:45.48 | centyx | nvz: I went ahead and created /usr/bin/openbox-session and changed /usr/share/xsessions/openbox to use that |
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| 20:46.23 | nvz | centyx: xset s off \n gnome-panel & \n sawfish |
| 20:46.33 | centyx | but that is good to know |
| 20:46.35 | centyx | thanks |
| 20:46.50 | nvz | centyx: commands like xset which exit immediatly don't need to be backgrounded |
| 20:46.57 | centyx | ah ok |
| 20:47.18 | nvz | centyx: gnome-panel for example would or else sawfish wouldn't run until it exited |
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| 20:48.05 | centyx | yea |
| 20:48.19 | nvz | I still do all my stuff this way as I like gnome, but I don't use their session manager or any of that fancy crap |
| 20:48.35 | nvz | I loathe megashitty wm |
| 20:48.58 | yulisita | sg |
| 20:49.15 | nvz | usually thats how you add startup programs, in your session manager program |
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| 20:49.28 | nvz | I see no need for one in my usage |
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| 20:51.11 | weirdo1 | hi, |
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| 20:51.53 | weirdo1 | nettinstal will work on a usb key with an adsl connection ? |
| 20:52.12 | petemc | adsl connection is rather vague |
| 20:52.14 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 20:52.14 | dpkg | i guess usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ or http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian |
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| 20:52.29 | weirdo1 | yes he can |
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| 20:55.33 | deb_user | what is the command for copying all files from a directory, including subdirectories? |
| 20:55.49 | eldowan | I've got a HP nc8430 and am having problems with booting. I can boot fine with the power cord attached, but to boot on battery power I have to add acpi=off in grub. Is there a way qround this? |
| 20:55.52 | chops | deb_user: cp -r |
| 20:55.53 | eldowan | deb_user: cp -r |
| 20:55.59 | deb_user | thanks |
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| 20:56.29 | eldowan | By booting with acpi=off, I can no longer use the wlan, so this is not an option. |
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| 21:00.18 | fignew | eldowan: what happens when you don't use acpi=off |
| 21:00.40 | eldowan | fignew: lockup on boot, acpi=off, booting using battery power |
| 21:00.52 | fignew | where does it stop? |
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| 21:02.18 | eldowan | fignew: various places from about 5 seconds in to X. but if it gets as far as loading X, it locks up there. |
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| 21:02.45 | xingu | eldowan: in your shoes I'd test with a very recent kernel. |
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| 21:02.59 | xingu | eldowan: like, 2.6.23 or 2.6.24 |
| 21:03.27 | xingu | eldowan: I _wouldn't_, however, hose my whole system getting from wherever you are currently to where you need to be to do so |
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| 21:03.49 | bert_ | hi, does anyone know a nice program to record your desktop ? |
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| 21:04.49 | nvz | bert_: there is a nice set of programs for this I forget what they are called offhand. |
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| 21:05.19 | bert_ | I tried recordmydesktop + gtk frontend to it but they record it very messy |
| 21:05.31 | nvz | bert_: do you just want to record as in video or as in macros that you can play back? |
| 21:05.39 | bert_ | video |
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| 21:05.47 | bert_ | doesn't matter which format |
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| 21:05.59 | nvz | !info istanbul |
| 21:06.03 | bert_ | but it should play at the actual speed (not first go fast, then slow, then fast) |
| 21:06.04 | dpkg | istanbul: (Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 72 kB, Installed size: 616 kB |
| 21:06.08 | eldowan | xingu: sorry, Its using etch, 2.6.18-6-686 |
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| 21:06.25 | bert_ | I'll have a look at istanbul, thx |
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| 21:07.50 | tarzeau | how we eat at my workplace: http://menu1.oinkzwurgl.org/ |
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| 21:09.49 | EvolutionCrazy | debian kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 21:09.58 | EvolutionCrazy | is that an error known to somebody? :( |
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| 21:10.51 | debian__ | rtorrent hung up, it is in a screen, i killde the prosess, what should I do? it wont restart! |
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| 21:10.57 | EvolutionCrazy | here part of the log: |
| 21:10.58 | EvolutionCrazy | http://pastebin.ca/895469 |
| 21:11.06 | EvolutionCrazy | debian__ pid? |
| 21:11.18 | EvolutionCrazy | lock files... or things like that left around? |
| 21:11.26 | EvolutionCrazy | what error is it giving while refusing to start? |
| 21:11.43 | debian__ | EvolutionCrazy: rtorrent: Could not lock session directory: "/home/debian/session/", held by "Debian-Box:+6044". |
| 21:12.01 | debian__ | It is in a screen, the prosess was killed, dont want to kill screen. |
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| 21:12.18 | EvolutionCrazy | cd /home/debian/session/ |
| 21:12.26 | EvolutionCrazy | is there some file named "lock" or something? |
| 21:12.51 | techouse | lol the wine .diff.gz is larger than the orig.tar.gz |
| 21:13.03 | techouse | 2x larger |
| 21:13.23 | Nyle | hey |
| 21:13.27 | techouse | ho |
| 21:13.27 | Nyle | tarzeau: !! |
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| 21:13.34 | EvolutionCrazy | debian__ i google... |
| 21:13.35 | Nyle | hi buddy longo time no see |
| 21:13.45 | EvolutionCrazy | from what i understand there should be a file named "rtorrent.lock" that is blocking you |
| 21:13.51 | EvolutionCrazy | move (delete?) it |
| 21:13.55 | EvolutionCrazy | and see what happens ;) |
| 21:14.02 | tarzeau | Nyle!! |
| 21:14.18 | abrotman | EvolutionCrazy: your system isn't happy with your NIC ... i'm guessing it's actually not up ? |
| 21:14.19 | Nyle | I got a job interview for a sysadmin position for an IT company |
| 21:14.20 | Nyle | yay |
| 21:14.25 | EvolutionCrazy | abrotman it is |
| 21:14.31 | EvolutionCrazy | but died 10 mins ago |
| 21:14.36 | EvolutionCrazy | a softreboot fixed the problem |
| 21:14.39 | EvolutionCrazy | I'm new to debian |
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| 21:14.47 | tarzeau | Nyle: hm, congratulations? earning 10k dollars? and only working 5 days/week, 8 hours/day? |
| 21:14.51 | EvolutionCrazy | this is etch 64bit, any help would be appreciated :( |
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| 21:14.56 | abrotman | EvolutionCrazy: a lot of network activity? |
| 21:14.58 | Nyle | tarzeau: I know man |
| 21:15.03 | Nyle | tarzeau: its a shitty fucking deal |
| 21:15.09 | Nyle | tarzeau: we work 5 days, to enjoy 2 off |
| 21:15.17 | Nyle | shittiest life we've made for ourselves |
| 21:15.17 | EvolutionCrazy | abrotman no less then 1gb/day |
| 21:15.24 | EvolutionCrazy | all the traffic is UDP tho :( |
| 21:15.27 | Nyle | but what can ya do eh, use debian and forget about the world |
| 21:15.27 | EvolutionCrazy | (gameservers) |
| 21:15.42 | SeicherlBoB | i got troubles setting my sys-time. i've set upc=no but the system still adds one hour to the bios-time. when i now run ntpdate the clock is set but after reboot the clock is again wrong... upc=no and timezone is correct... any suggestions? |
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| 21:16.03 | tarzeau | Nyle: you can work on it. make it better |
| 21:16.05 | valdyn | SeicherlBoB: what the hell is upc? |
| 21:16.13 | tarzeau | Nyle: don't use computers? :) |
| 21:16.13 | Nyle | tarzeau: so where have you been hiding? |
| 21:16.15 | EvolutionCrazy | abrotman can I pm you? :* |
| 21:16.25 | SeicherlBoB | valdyn: lol i mean utc |
| 21:16.30 | Nyle | upc |
| 21:16.31 | Nyle | lol |
| 21:16.33 | Nyle | HAHA |
| 21:16.34 | Nyle | omg |
| 21:16.37 | Nyle | thats priceless |
| 21:16.39 | tarzeau | Nyle: 8 days of no internet, no computers, no radio, no tv. just snow, ski, snowboarding, party, sun, and women |
| 21:16.43 | Nyle | the upc code |
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| 21:16.52 | Nyle | universal product code == barcode type |
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| 21:17.14 | Nyle | tarzeau: women |
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| 21:17.16 | Nyle | mmmm |
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| 21:18.10 | SeicherlBoB | when i try to read the bios-time with hwclock, the operation times out. dont know why |
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| 21:18.28 | Nyle | SeicherlBoB: hmm that is beyond me |
| 21:18.38 | Nyle | I can't seem to think of anything |
| 21:18.41 | debian__ | Did anyone come with an soulution to the rtorrent lock thing? |
| 21:18.45 | heian | jenna |
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| 21:18.54 | debian__ | I used slay on my user so I got kicked out... |
| 21:18.55 | Nyle | I dunno, usually deleting a lock file helps |
| 21:18.57 | EvolutionCrazy | debian__ delete the .lock file |
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| 21:19.01 | heian | list |
| 21:19.03 | debian__ | ok |
| 21:19.13 | EvolutionCrazy | (f it's there) |
| 21:19.20 | jinzo | that's the only channel for debian ? I'm looking for some indepth package voodoo |
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| 21:19.29 | Nyle | jinzo: what do you need |
| 21:19.36 | Nyle | ask and if need be, we'll redirect you |
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| 21:19.56 | jinzo | Nyle, I'm wondering, are the module debs used by debian installer buid with DKMS support ? |
| 21:19.59 | badcfe | i add a iface eth0:1 inet static in network/interfaces, but it dont get configured on boot. how do i setup that? |
| 21:20.11 | Nyle | jinzo: I have no earthly idea |
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| 21:20.17 | jinzo | :] |
| 21:20.21 | petemc | badcfe: auto eth0:1 |
| 21:20.23 | ServerSide | how can I change my console charset? |
| 21:20.24 | Nyle | you mean the udebs? |
| 21:20.25 | eldowan | badcfe: there is a way you can edit your /etc/network/interfaces line |
| 21:20.34 | Nyle | what are module debs? |
| 21:20.46 | Nyle | eldowan: yo G |
| 21:20.56 | Nyle | eldowan: I'm soon gonna be doing what you doin hopefully, sys admin |
| 21:20.57 | Nyle | :) |
| 21:21.01 | eldowan | nyle: sup. Nice on that 10k job. |
| 21:21.12 | Nyle | word |
| 21:21.15 | jinzo | Nyle, the ones that provide a specific kernel module, for example reiserfs ( http://packages.debian.org/etch/reiserfs-modules-2.6.18-5-amd64-di ) |
| 21:21.23 | Nyle | ahh |
| 21:21.24 | eldowan | jizno |
| 21:21.34 | eldowan | jinzo: reiser-tools IIRC |
| 21:21.41 | Nyle | no eldowan |
| 21:21.45 | Nyle | he asked a diff q |
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| 21:21.59 | eldowan | aah, I might need to read once in a while. oops |
| 21:22.03 | Nyle | are the kernel module debs (w/e) are build with dkms? |
| 21:22.07 | Nyle | wtf is dkms, i dunno |
| 21:22.14 | Nyle | then again, I dunno anything |
| 21:22.17 | jinzo | Dynamic Kernel Modules Support |
| 21:22.24 | Nyle | oh good god |
| 21:22.31 | jinzo | that means that you can use one module on more ( different) kernel versions |
| 21:22.33 | Nyle | of course |
| 21:22.39 | Nyle | thats what that is |
| 21:22.47 | Nyle | I was thinking something along thos elines |
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| 21:22.52 | jinzo | :) |
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| 21:23.03 | jinzo | quite a nice idea, and I'm doing some woodoo :D |
| 21:23.09 | Nyle | voodoo |
| 21:23.17 | tictac | bah. vmware stopped working with 2.6.24 w/ pavirt. :| |
| 21:23.21 | abrotman | EvolutionCrazy: as you might tell .. i'm somewhat busy .. best to keep it in the channel |
| 21:23.27 | chemist | I have started minicom in the background (minicom &). Now I cant kill it with kill pid or killall minicom |
| 21:23.31 | jinzo | on centos actually, but need the debian kernel working :) |
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| 21:23.37 | abrotman | chemist: you have to wait for it to disconnect |
| 21:23.40 | abrotman | IIRC anyways |
| 21:23.48 | abrotman | EvolutionCrazy: which driver is your card using ? |
| 21:23.50 | badcfe | petemc, but i dont get it .. my eth0 is coming up without adding auto to it .... |
| 21:23.53 | Nyle | chemist: kill the parent pid if you need to |
| 21:23.58 | Nyle | or wait it out |
| 21:24.00 | Nyle | hopefuly |
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| 21:24.15 | petemc | badcfe: that would be strange, as its the auto part that tells debian to bring the interface up |
| 21:24.32 | Nyle | jinzo: though I don't really kow |
| 21:24.33 | EvolutionCrazy | abrotman no idea... mmm how can i check that? :( |
| 21:24.38 | ServerSide | do someone know how can I change my console charset? |
| 21:24.39 | Nyle | jinzo: you could try #debian-devel I think |
| 21:24.40 | abrotman | ethtool |
| 21:24.42 | EvolutionCrazy | kk |
| 21:24.46 | jinzo | Nyle, tnx |
| 21:24.55 | Nyle | jinzo: or try the debian kernel mailing list |
| 21:25.13 | badcfe | petemc: i am positive i had _no_ auto for eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces file, but it come up still |
| 21:25.20 | Nyle | jinzo: from my experience, NO |
| 21:25.30 | antum | Why does this: "tar -c ./abrown/ | lzop - > abrown2.tar.lzo" do a much better job than just this: "tar -cvvf abrown.tar ./abrown/" ? Is it double-compressing or something? |
| 21:25.40 | chemist | Nyle: excuse my ignorance, but how do I know what the parent process is? |
| 21:25.47 | Nyle | jinzo: I know that if I compile fglrx/nvidia or any other module on say kernel a.b.c, it will not work on a.b.d |
| 21:25.53 | valdyn | antum: or not compressing at all |
| 21:25.57 | justin | antum: tar -cvvf does not compress at all |
| 21:26.01 | Nyle | chemist: ppid |
| 21:26.03 | antum | oh!! |
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| 21:26.05 | Nyle | !ppid |
| 21:26.05 | dpkg | ppid is, like, Parent Process ID, or to find the ppid of a pid, run "ps -O%P pid" |
| 21:26.06 | justin | antum: try tar cvzf or cvjf |
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| 21:26.16 | EvolutionCrazy | abrotman: driver: 3c59x |
| 21:26.35 | EvolutionCrazy | http://pastebin.ca/895482 |
| 21:26.38 | Nyle | jinzo: does that make sense? |
| 21:26.43 | badcfe | seems i must place auto lo and auto eth0:1 as lines in interfaces file, but can skip auto eth0 as its coming up anyway ... why? |
| 21:27.02 | antum | justin thanks :) |
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| 21:27.14 | antum | valdyn thanks! |
| 21:27.31 | badcfe | so it would be normal for me to add a line with "auto eth0" ? is that kind of conform to do? |
| 21:27.32 | Nyle | is there an ncurses gui for like a file compression utillity like ark/file-roller etc. |
| 21:27.47 | Nyle | I like cli, but just curious |
| 21:27.53 | valdyn | Nyle: mc |
| 21:27.56 | jinzo | Nyle, there are more ways of compiling a kernel, one is like you said, another is dkms... :) |
| 21:27.59 | Nyle | mc, something commander? |
| 21:28.08 | valdyn | Nyle: yea |
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| 21:28.12 | Nyle | jinzo: not the whole kernel mate, just the module |
| 21:28.14 | techouse | what da? what app do i need for git origin url.... |
| 21:28.21 | techouse | i installed git and nothing |
| 21:28.22 | techouse | :P |
| 21:28.34 | Nyle | techouse: read git docs |
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| 21:28.47 | Nyle | I figured out how to use it and build compiz-confusion just by reading |
| 21:28.49 | jinzo | Nyle, both actually :P |
| 21:28.50 | valdyn | techouse: im sure git doesnt do "nothing" |
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| 21:29.03 | jinzo | Nyle, but yes, I meant module there :P |
| 21:29.05 | Nyle | jinzo: hmm |
| 21:29.11 | techouse | git clone url.git |
| 21:29.15 | Nyle | jinzo: I am not very skilled when it comes to kernels |
| 21:29.16 | madphysics | Hi, Does anyone have experience of using debian on motorola MVME boards by any chance? |
| 21:29.18 | techouse | bah...i found a cvs link :D |
| 21:29.19 | Nyle | I know enough to get by |
| 21:29.39 | Nyle | jinzo: I'll have to read up on this though, it sounds very interesting |
| 21:29.42 | techouse | Nyle: does compiz work faster if compiled? |
| 21:29.47 | EvolutionCrazy | abrotman this is the lspci output: http://pastebin.ca/895486 |
| 21:30.25 | techouse | <-- made his Debian look like OS X Leopard |
| 21:30.41 | valdyn | techouse: my pity |
| 21:31.01 | techouse | valdyn: i had the vista look for 5 months; i got sick of it |
| 21:32.55 | Nyle | jinzo: I immagine you've tried ,.,,, |
| 21:32.57 | Nyle | shit! |
| 21:33.05 | Nyle | I just got another call, one more sysadmin interview next week |
| 21:33.06 | Nyle | damn! |
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| 21:33.14 | Nyle | thas what I'm talking about |
| 21:33.25 | Nyle | yea baby, yea baby /me dances |
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| 21:33.36 | antum | with tar can you compress multiple directories into the same file? like with tar -cf? |
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| 21:33.58 | chops | antum: Exactly like with tar -cf :-) |
| 21:34.19 | EvolutionCrazy | :D |
| 21:34.35 | antum | chops do i use the -f flag? I though that was only for files? |
| 21:34.51 | chops | antum: -f indicates that you want your output to go to a file, not to stdout |
| 21:34.57 | chops | antum: It has nothing to do with the input |
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| 21:35.03 | antum | chops woops my bad! |
| 21:35.09 | chops | antum: No worries |
| 21:35.17 | chops | antum: I didn't mean that to sound rude :-). Just explaining. |
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| 21:36.17 | Daveman | what package is required for all the standard C libraries? |
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| 21:36.40 | chops | Daveman: What are you doing? libc6-dev is one possible answer... |
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| 21:37.09 | antum | chops yeah i know :) stupid internet not being able to convey true meaning of sentences :P |
| 21:37.48 | Daveman | such libraries are missing on this system, e.g. strftime, strptime, and friends :P |
| 21:38.10 | Pete_B | if you have 3 disks, RAID 5 mdadm, LVM; and you update the kernel and hence GRUB, should you do grub-install hd0 && grub-install hd1 && grub-install hd2 to make sure they all get the MBR change, or does the fact that when you issue one of thse command GRUB mentions 'hd0) /dev/sda / (hd1) /dev/sdb / (hd2) /dev/sdc' mean that GRUB is on the case? |
| 21:38.28 | justin | Daveman: those aren't libraries, those are library functions.. if you were missing the library that provides them your system wouldn't boot |
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| 21:38.36 | justin | Daveman: sounds like you are missing the build-essential package thugh |
| 21:38.59 | justin | Pete_B: upgrading the kernel doesn't upgrade grub |
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| 21:39.31 | Daveman | justin, except it's installed :P |
| 21:39.36 | Pete_B | justin: upgrading the kernel updates menu.list and runs grub-install or similar |
| 21:39.44 | Daveman | whatever, strange |
| 21:39.53 | valdyn | Pete_B: you dont need to do a grub-install |
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| 21:39.56 | justin | Pete_B: it doesn't re-run grub-install |
| 21:39.57 | Faragd | hi |
| 21:40.09 | Faragd | hey, I need to upgrade only clamav from my server but I don't know how |
| 21:40.14 | chops | Daveman: Can you pastebin the exact problem you're having (source, and then the compile and the error message you get when it fails)? Also the output of 'apt-cache policy build-essential' |
| 21:40.20 | valdyn | Pete_B: you merely need to do do nothing else but install a proper debian kernel, everything else is automagic |
| 21:40.30 | Faragd | when I type apt-get upgrade I get 54 pending updates, how can I update only clamav? |
| 21:40.41 | justin | Faragd: apt-get install it |
| 21:40.42 | chops | Faragd: aptitude install clamav |
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| 21:41.30 | Pete_B | justin: thanks (I was worried the RAID sync mightn't keep up with the MBR update on one of the disks) |
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| 21:41.41 | valdyn | Pete_B: there is NO mbr update |
| 21:41.46 | abrotman | EvolutionCrazy: update-pciids |
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| 21:42.12 | Pete_B | valdyn: then how does the GRUB menu on boot get the 2.6.18-4, -5 and -6 added to it? |
| 21:42.24 | valdyn | Pete_B: by reading /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 21:42.26 | Arrick | hey, the current distro is version 2.2.x right? |
| 21:42.36 | Pete_B | valdyn: ahh, I never knew that was available to it at that point |
| 21:42.57 | valdyn | Pete_B: it certainly cant be on a raid5 |
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| 21:43.07 | valdyn | Pete_B: which is why some of your info must be wrong |
| 21:43.23 | Faragd | damn, for some reason I've got 2 clamscan processes running and they both take about 50 % of my processor |
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| 21:43.37 | Arrick | ones a virus Faragd ;'P |
| 21:43.45 | Faragd | Arrick? |
| 21:43.49 | Arrick | im kidding |
| 21:43.51 | Faragd | shit |
| 21:43.55 | Pete_B | valdyn: hmm, I'm not so sure of myself now then, will have to think about it |
| 21:43.58 | Faragd | I almost crapped my pants |
| 21:44.01 | Arrick | lol |
| 21:44.04 | fractal | Sup all? I just did an upgrade to 4.0 but it removed KDE on me. Now when I do apt-get install kde I get "kde: Depends: kde-core (>= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed" etc |
| 21:44.09 | fractal | Any ideas how to fix that? |
| 21:44.17 | Faragd | Arrick: ever heard of this kinda problem? |
| 21:44.32 | Arrick | Faragd, I cant believe you are asking *me* questoins about linux |
| 21:44.38 | chops | fractal: What do you mean 'upgrade to 4.0'? |
| 21:44.39 | tictac | bah. xen still fails to work in 2.6.24 vanilla. |
| 21:44.40 | Arrick | I *might* be able to list 4 folders in / |
| 21:44.56 | Faragd | bah |
| 21:45.03 | Arrick | hey, is the current 4.0 version 2.2.x or is it 2.6.x? |
| 21:45.08 | fractal | chops - Er I did an apt-get dist-upgrade and my debian_version now says 4.0 |
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| 21:45.18 | roler | what file trims the logs in /var/log? it's rotatelogs right? |
| 21:45.19 | Asmooh | 2.6 |
| 21:45.35 | dkr | roler: logrotate |
| 21:45.41 | Arrick | thanks Asmooh I want to install the correct version in the vmware workstation lol |
| 21:45.48 | Asmooh | ah ok |
| 21:45.58 | chops | fractal: Can you pastebin your current sources.list, the output of 'apt-cache policy libc6', 'apt-cache policy kde', and 'apt-cache policy kde-core'? |
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| 21:46.12 | roler | what happens when logrotate doesn't work ? I have 100meg+ log files |
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| 21:46.15 | chops | fractal: In general the upgrade procedure to 4.0 is more complex than 'dist-upgrade'; it's possible that you have an incomplete upgrade |
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| 21:46.49 | Pete_B | valdyn: yes, you're right, I've checked my notes and "grub cannot boot from RAID5 so an additional partition separate from the RAID5 had to be created for this purpose" so I made a RAID 1 boot partition |
| 21:46.59 | fractal | chops - Sure thx a lot one sec |
| 21:47.23 | Tramp | roler: its either logrotate or a cron.daily job (sysklogd) |
| 21:47.24 | chops | roler: I think you just answered your own question :-) |
| 21:47.34 | itchi | Need i to do somethings special to get secured http working with apache2? I loaded the module and when i go on https://localhost i get as error: localhost has sent an incorrect or unexpected message. Error Code: -12263 |
| 21:47.40 | chops | roler: Is your logrotate not running at all, or not on the right files, or just not often enough? |
| 21:48.03 | roler | chops; doesn't seem to be running at all... I tried running /etc/cron.daily/logrotate manually and it did nothing |
| 21:48.19 | Tramp | roler: which file(s) is/are affected? |
| 21:48.23 | Pete_B | valdyn: but because GRUB installs to MBR on hd0 I thought hd1 and hd2 might not sync with hd0 before I rebooted. Tell me I'm wrong. |
| 21:48.26 | chops | roler: logrotate will refuse to run more than once a day IIRC |
| 21:48.34 | chops | roler: Why do you say it's not running at all? |
| 21:48.42 | roler | mail.log and auth.log, syslog are all over 100megs in size |
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| 21:48.58 | Tramp | auth.log and syslog are not handled by logrotate |
| 21:49.09 | justin | Tramp: they aren't? |
| 21:49.10 | chops | roler: What's the timestamp on them and on the most recent rotated copy? Also, see what Tramp said |
| 21:49.18 | Tramp | justin: no. |
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| 21:49.21 | chops | roler: Also, what's in them? They may just be growing very quickly. |
| 21:49.21 | itchi | Pete_B: /boot can't be on a stripped one |
| 21:49.30 | fractal | chops - http://pastebin.com/m16ab2f87 |
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| 21:49.45 | justin | Tramp: what rotates them then? |
| 21:49.48 | althaser | where can I see the log system beyond the /var/log/syslog ?? when I boot my system freeze and only rest me reset button :S |
| 21:49.59 | chops | fractal: You should replace 'stable' with 'etch' in sources.list, to avoid this problem in the future (accidental stable->stable upgrade) |
| 21:50.00 | Tramp | justin: as I just wrote: /etc/cron.d/sysklogd |
| 21:50.08 | justin | i see:) |
| 21:50.12 | Tramp | justin: cron.daily/... that is |
| 21:50.16 | roler | well for instance, mail.log has entries from 2007 the date is from today though |
| 21:50.23 | fractal | chops - OK thx done |
| 21:50.46 | chops | fractal: Can you pastebin the whole output of 'aptitude install kde'? |
| 21:50.50 | Pete_B | itchi: so, each disk is wrotten to concurrently with RAID1? |
| 21:50.58 | Tramp | roler: if your mailer logs via syslog, it may also be the cronjobs job. Is the script I mentioned working? |
| 21:51.19 | itchi | Pete_B: Make in sort that /boot has RAID1 or not RAID at all |
| 21:51.39 | fractal | chops - http://pastebin.com/m70aefb68 |
| 21:51.49 | roler | tramp, don't think so. the mail.log.xxx files are from march, 2007 |
| 21:51.56 | fractal | Interesting.. Never heard of aptitude before.. Should I press Y at that prompt? |
| 21:52.05 | itchi | Pete_B: I don't have much experiences with RAID5 |
| 21:52.06 | Tramp | roler: run it manually, check what it does |
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| 21:52.19 | roler | Tramp; what script again? |
| 21:52.28 | Tramp | I will not write it a third time |
| 21:52.30 | chops | fractal: Wait -- you have kde installed already. |
| 21:52.42 | itchi | Pete_B: Take a look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID |
| 21:52.57 | itchi | Pete_B: Especially to "Standard levels" |
| 21:53.01 | abrotman | EvolutionCrazy: please don't /msg me |
| 21:53.02 | garotosopa | Hi. `top` says that 60% of cpu is being used to service hardware IRQ. How do I get more datails on what is requesting this much? |
| 21:53.11 | chops | fractal: Oh, I see, no. Run 'aptitude update' and try 'aptitude install kde' again. Sorry. |
| 21:53.15 | Pete_B | itchi: I'm right there already. got it. thanks. "in real time" is the bit i needed to know |
| 21:53.18 | roler | tramp; okay got it. it's sysklogd |
| 21:53.24 | Pete_B | thanks itchi, valdyn, justin |
| 21:53.29 | fractal | chops - ok will try that thx |
| 21:53.43 | roler | tramp; I just ran it manually, from /etc/cron.daily and it took care of it. herm |
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| 21:53.49 | Nebukadneza | hi |
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| 21:54.18 | Nebukadneza | where have the mutt-ng packages gone to? :( |
| 21:54.24 | Tramp | roler: then you have to check, why it is not run. Is this sysstem up 7/24? |
| 21:54.27 | fractal | chops - Same output as apt-get install kde :( "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." |
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| 21:54.35 | chops | fractal: Can you pastebin that output? |
| 21:54.43 | roler | tramp; yes. 12:43:13 up 334 days, 22:16, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.31, 0.44 |
| 21:54.52 | itchi | Pete_B: Why do you choice for RAID5? |
| 21:54.53 | Nebukadneza | it was in debian earlier, but ... somehow its not there anymore |
| 21:55.06 | abrotman | EvolutionCrazy: DO NOT MSG ME |
| 21:55.21 | abrotman | EvolutionCrazy: in the channel .. i will not respond to you in msg |
| 21:55.21 | itchi | EvolutionCrazy: /msg dpkg :-p |
| 21:55.27 | mbroeker | Nebukadneza, what is the diff between mutt && mutt-ng? |
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| 21:55.30 | fractal | chops - sure: http://pastebin.com/m44bcadd4 |
| 21:55.40 | chops | roler: You're missing some kernel security updates |
| 21:55.46 | itchi | mbroeker: New Generation |
| 21:55.47 | Tramp | roler: hmm. weird. activate cron-logging in syslogd.conf and see if it gives you some insight. Also make sure that anacron is not installed |
| 21:55.52 | Pete_B | itchi: to cope with drive failures (in a server) |
| 21:56.01 | Nebukadneza | mbroeker: there are some quite handy enhancements, the biggest of which (at least for me) is a sidebar to quick-switch mailboxes |
| 21:56.15 | mbroeker | Nebukadneza, a i see |
| 21:56.18 | roler | tramp; okay thanks ;) |
| 21:56.23 | Tramp | roler: np |
| 21:56.27 | roler | tramp; I just restarted cron for the heck of it too |
| 21:56.37 | rha_ | hi all |
| 21:56.52 | rha_ | is there a kernel developer there ? |
| 21:57.08 | chops | fractal: Can you pastebin 'dpkg -l | grep ^h'? |
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| 21:57.28 | Tramp | roler: yeah. May have crashed during this long uptime. For productive servers I recommend regular scheduled reboots. |
| 21:57.44 | fractal | chops - No output |
| 21:58.21 | chops | fractal: Hm |
| 21:58.31 | fractal | chops - There is output for "dpkg -l |grep kde" though... Looks like you might be right that I have (part of?) kde instlled already? |
| 21:58.35 | chops | fractal: Does 'aptitude dist-upgrade' do anything interesting? |
| 21:59.03 | fractal | Oh wow |
| 21:59.04 | fractal | 205 packages upgraded, 534 newly installed, 128 to remove and 33 not upgraded. |
| 21:59.07 | fractal | Need to get 500MB of archives. After unpacking 455MB will be used. |
| 21:59.11 | chops | fractal: Aha |
| 21:59.16 | fractal | I guess I should do that :) |
| 21:59.18 | chops | !tell fractal about sarge->etch |
| 21:59.28 | chops | You've already done part of the upgrade, so not all of the installation guide might apply |
| 21:59.40 | chops | But it's better to follow the guide than to just dist-upgrade and cross your fingers :-) |
| 22:00.03 | fractal | Fair enough I will give that shot. Thx for all your help |
| 22:00.19 | tictac | anyone running xen w/ 2.6.24? |
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| 22:02.00 | fractal | Well it's running.. Guess it's time to go for lunch :) |
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| 22:04.23 | rainbow | кто тут с КНИиТА?? |
| 22:04.53 | mbroeker | ? ru |
| 22:04.59 | mbroeker | ?ru |
| 22:05.08 | rainbow | не поял |
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| 22:05.34 | mbroeker | dpkg, ru |
| 22:05.34 | dpkg | somebody said ru was Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 22:07.00 | badcfe | is it possible with netfilter to alter source port as well as destination port for routed udp packets that is being nat redirected. |
| 22:07.09 | abrotman | badcfe: ask #iptables |
| 22:07.22 | badcfe | abrotman: thanks |
| 22:07.34 | bolt | argh |
| 22:07.48 | rainbow | o my god! it's foreigh chat???)) |
| 22:08.06 | bolt | People who come into a channel with an english topic and start speaking their own language just piss me off. Can't help it. |
| 22:08.18 | rainbow | или я чего не понимаю?? |
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| 22:09.09 | grendal_prime | hey i need to just be able to run firefox..or greasweasel or whatever it is...on this box..but i dont want a desktop..what is the minimum x i need for something like that? |
| 22:09.09 | bolt | i totally agree, rainbow |
| 22:09.35 | bolt | grendal_prime: you need xorg and you need ratpoison |
| 22:09.40 | bolt | doesn't get any smaller than that |
| 22:09.55 | grendal_prime | all of xorg thoug? |
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| 22:10.36 | bolt | xserver-xorg-core |
| 22:10.40 | bolt | and whatever that includes |
| 22:10.44 | bolt | i think |
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| 22:13.42 | rainbow_ | #debian-russian |
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| 22:14.41 | bolt | rainbow_: try /join in front of that |
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| 22:16.32 | alphawolf83 | somebody know how to get a config-File in .wine? i have 3 .reg files but no config-File i need to switch off the graphic option off wine to run a console windows emu only. Can somebody please help? |
| 22:16.45 | mbroeker | rainbow_, Имеется помощь на русском языке в *debian-russian. |
| 22:17.30 | abrotman | alphawolf83: ask #winehq |
| 22:17.42 | alphawolf83 | thx |
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| 22:19.02 | mbroeker | i think that dpkg needs an update for his russian link... |
| 22:19.22 | dkr | mbroeker: I tried doing it once, he had issue with the utf-8 encoding |
| 22:19.41 | mbroeker | dkr, ok. |
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| 22:19.49 | dkr | (I actually tried koi8-r and utf8, and both) |
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| 22:27.49 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 22:32.39 | laurly | hey guys. one of the hard drives on my servers been runing like crazy for 20 min can i see whats accessing it? |
| 22:33.08 | Obligatory | Hi, I'd like to hear what folks Favorite FAX GUIs are... |
| 22:33.47 | Obligatory | laurly, 'man lsof' |
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| 22:34.24 | Obligatory | ...'htop' might help too. |
| 22:34.31 | zinx | !tell Obligatory about popcon |
| 22:34.37 | laurly | ohhh nice one |
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| 22:35.32 | Obligatory | zinx, I used to run popcon... OK so where do I look up popcon FAX stuff? |
| 22:36.03 | abrotman | Obligatory: for windows or linux or what? i've been using PylaFax for win32 clients to interact with a hylafax server |
| 22:36.22 | zinx | Obligatory: search popcon for fax? |
| 22:36.28 | Obligatory | abrotman, Debian of course. |
| 22:36.40 | Obligatory | zinx, uh how do I search popcon? |
| 22:36.48 | zinx | Obligatory: or apt-cache search fax and find those packages on popcon :/ |
| 22:37.05 | zinx | Obligatory: presumably by using your browser's search feature |
| 22:37.23 | zinx | there may be some easier methods, but i don't use popcon so i don't know |
| 22:37.37 | Obligatory | zinx, I already did that. Right now I'm using 'efax-gtk' and it's kinda nasty, or rather it makes me deal with CUPS which is extremely nasty. |
| 22:37.37 | laurly | crap to much info :) |
| 22:37.47 | abrotman | Obligatory: apt-cache search fax client |
| 22:37.56 | Obligatory | laurly, 'grep' it. |
| 22:37.58 | zinx | Obligatory: erh, CUPS is pretty much what you get for Linux printer support |
| 22:38.16 | Obligatory | does anyone really like CUPS? |
| 22:38.25 | nevyn | I like cups |
| 22:38.27 | zinx | i don't see anything horrible wrong with it |
| 22:38.29 | laurly | im not even sure what im looking for. |
| 22:38.31 | zinx | erh, horribly |
| 22:38.43 | zinx | and i tend to dislike stuff that isn't any good :P |
| 22:38.44 | laurly | its just crunching like somethings copying or complieling. |
| 22:39.54 | nevyn | zinx: so how do you feel about openoffice? |
| 22:39.58 | laurly | who would show me if anyone else was loged in on the server but its only showing me. |
| 22:40.02 | Obligatory | laurly, try 'htop', sort by CPU. |
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| 22:40.22 | zinx | nevyn: it's an office suite. |
| 22:40.43 | zinx | nevyn: me, being primarily a programmer, has very little use for it :) |
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| 22:41.21 | laurly | so it cant be compliling becouse nothings hiting the cpu. |
| 22:42.44 | Obligatory | We need a util to sort by immediate disk activity. Say take a 10-60 second sample, and sort. |
| 22:43.07 | abrotman | htop ? maybe |
| 22:43.28 | Obligatory | abrotman, can 'htop' do that? |
| 22:43.30 | laurly | used top before this is my first time trying htop |
| 22:43.34 | abrotman | eh .. maybe not |
| 22:43.47 | abrotman | !atop |
| 22:43.54 | laurly | F6 will sort but some stuff |
| 22:43.59 | xingu | laurly: blktrace |
| 22:43.59 | abrotman | hrm .. i need to have Wyzard or jelly remind me of the thing to do that |
| 22:44.03 | Obligatory | I like htop, the keys are right there. |
| 22:44.14 | Obligatory | abrotman, maybe atop would but... how? |
| 22:44.22 | abrotman | it needs a proc setting to do it |
| 22:44.28 | abrotman | and i can't recall what it is |
| 22:45.04 | laurly | mem usage seams to only be mysql and apachie |
| 22:45.18 | abrotman | laurly: what time is it at your locale? |
| 22:45.29 | abrotman | laurly: ps aux | grep find |
| 22:45.30 | laurly | 23:45 i want to go to bed :) |
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| 22:46.00 | laurly | root 20378 0.0 0.3 2016 648 pts/0 R+ 00:19 0:00 grep find |
| 22:46.08 | abrotman | nope .. nto it |
| 22:46.09 | abrotman | not it |
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| 22:46.19 | Obligatory | CUPS cups cups... well maybe I'm using the wrong front-end. |
| 22:46.32 | laurly | learning to admin a server my self :) |
| 22:47.09 | laurly | scary half the time. |
| 22:47.40 | Obligatory | abrotman, 'man atop' says it needs a kernel patch to do disk stuff. First DESCRIPTION para. |
| 22:47.41 | xingu | abrotman: blktrace will do what it says on the tin; but there's also proc/sys/vm/block_dump |
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| 22:47.52 | laurly | will who show everyone accessing the server? ssh ftp? |
| 22:48.11 | xingu | abrotman: blktrace depends on BLK_DEV_IO_TRACE which debian kernels build with |
| 22:48.14 | laurly | what about like incomming connections.... i |
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| 22:48.32 | abrotman | xingu: then that works |
| 22:48.39 | abrotman | xingu: oh .. that's the proc setting i think |
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| 22:48.57 | abrotman | Obligatory: but there's also a proc setting |
| 22:49.01 | xingu | abrotman: it's probably block_dump you're thinking of. |
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| 22:49.17 | xingu | abrotman: but blktrace is more useful in the long term sense, though block_dump will suffice here |
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| 22:49.30 | abrotman | bah .. whatever |
| 22:49.43 | Obligatory | abrotman, I'm confused. Got a one-liner command line thingee for 'atop'? |
| 22:49.51 | Obligatory | I'll try blktrace... |
| 22:50.00 | abrotman | Obligatory: i think it's what xingu said .. but i'm not sure .. i honestly can't remember .. blktrace seems more useful here |
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| 22:50.18 | r0tu | hey, I am setting up an old Netwinder 1u I found thrown out.. trying to get debian on it... first time using TFTPD, I got it installed (Server), but cannot find where I configure the directory and access, etc for the server |
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| 22:52.05 | laurly | hmm it stoped |
| 22:52.24 | abrotman | now you'll never know! |
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| 22:52.50 | laurly | im tempted to totaly reinstall the server so that i can learn from the start. |
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| 22:56.03 | JoeThomas | Hi, is there something on debian like 'sys-rc-conf' in fedora? |
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| 22:56.18 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 22:57.32 | the_empty | ok this is driving me mad... Excel exported an xls to a csv and now EVERY character has an ^@ character between when I look in nano... Is there some way to strip those? |
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| 22:58.10 | the_empty | tried opening it in oocalc and resaving it with no effect |
| 22:58.33 | Obligatory | OK I have blktrace, but "/sys/kernel/debug does not appear to be a debug filesystem". Argh. |
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| 22:59.09 | Obligatory | Debian 2.6.24~rc7-1~experimental.1~snapshot.10109 -- life on the bleeding edge. |
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| 22:59.30 | abrotman | Obligatory: 2.6.24 is in sid already |
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| 22:59.44 | laurly | night guys. |
| 22:59.49 | cleo | it's very dificullt to use apt-spy |
| 22:59.53 | Obligatory | abrotman, THANKS! |
| 22:59.55 | laurly | thanks for the help |
| 23:00.00 | cleo | can any one write me exmeple |
| 23:00.00 | abrotman | !apt-spy |
| 23:00.01 | dpkg | apt-spy is probably a secret! Shh!, or like 'mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' :: apt-get install apt-spy; apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] :: when this finishes it will automatically write to your sources.list so if you have other mirrors there you'll have to "cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak" and fix your sources.list |
| 23:00.06 | cleo | i have read all |
| 23:00.26 | abrotman | there's an example right there |
| 23:00.29 | cleo | ok |
| 23:00.31 | cleo | thanks |
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| 23:00.32 | cleo | :) |
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| 23:00.40 | abrotman | you'll have to change it for your needs .. but it's enough to get you going |
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| 23:01.43 | Obligatory | abrotman, I'm running 'sid' but I can't find 2.6.24, other than the experimental version. Is my 'sources' file screwy? |
| 23:01.58 | abrotman | Obligatory: aptitutude update |
| 23:02.07 | abrotman | !info linux-image-2.6.24-1-686 sid |
| 23:02.11 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6.24-1-686: (Linux 2.6.24 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.6.24-3 (sid), Packaged size: 18618 kB, Installed size: 54140 kB |
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| 23:02.26 | kjs | Ahh. some weird stuff going on with this debian install... after every reboot the eth device changes number, it started on eth2 now every time i reboot the box it increases! |
| 23:02.32 | abrotman | !z25 |
| 23:02.32 | dpkg | somebody said z25 was as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac> |
| 23:02.33 | kjs | current on eth6 after 4 reboots. |
| 23:03.03 | Obligatory | abrotman, yeah it's updated. Oh wait, there it is... guess 'dglob -a' isn't thorough. |
| 23:03.26 | kjs | Obligatory: he has left |
| 23:03.56 | Obligatory | kjs, crossed in the mail. |
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| 23:04.25 | kjs | ahh |
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| 23:05.08 | Obligatory | Well, off to hateful faxing, bye. |
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| 23:08.54 | cleo | i have dell d400 and i want to install wifi and bluetooth plz |
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| 23:11.16 | jon_high9000 | hello. my ethernet card on my pc was fried by an electrical storm. fortunately, i have a low end powerpc (466 Mhz G4) and am interested if it can still work Debian 4.0? |
| 23:12.17 | nevyn | jon_high9000: that'll work. |
| 23:12.22 | jon_high9000 | fyi: i am using Jaguar 10.2.8 on it |
| 23:12.29 | jon_high9000 | at present |
| 23:12.40 | techouse | if i want to compile wine i need freetype2-dev and freetype2 but it conflicts with libfreetype6 and libfreetype6-dev; what should i do? |
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| 23:13.18 | jon_high9000 | i installed 500+ mb of memory as well |
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| 23:16.43 | tvn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:16.49 | tvn | what else do I need to do ? I can't access http://localhost/dokuwiki -- my web server apache works fine. |
| 23:17.09 | edico | hello |
| 23:17.23 | edico | where is local.conf in debian? |
| 23:18.01 | dryrot | you mean rc.conf / rc.local ? |
| 23:18.13 | cafuego | local.conf? What does that do when its at home? |
| 23:18.30 | jon_high9000 | nevyn: im really glad to see that. i was really concerned that it might too old. |
| 23:18.40 | edico | local.conf for fonts |
| 23:19.17 | cafuego | edico: You just throw fonts into the font dir and be done with it, afaik. |
| 23:20.36 | edico | yes I followed some tutorials but the font are the same, I installed defoma and x-ttcidfont-conf |
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| 23:21.10 | edico | and put the paths in xorg.conf |
| 23:21.19 | bolt | How can I disable the pc speaker beep in the console? (without pulling the pc speaker buzzer off the motherboard) |
| 23:21.28 | tarzeau | x or console? |
| 23:21.30 | tarzeau | !beep |
| 23:21.30 | dpkg | beep is probably /exec -o echo -ne "\007". A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port |
| 23:21.55 | cafuego | edico: If the fonts are just for you, put the files in ~/.fonts/ and run fc-cache -f |
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| 23:22.37 | edico | cafuego, and if I want make them global settings for all users? |
| 23:23.26 | cafuego | edico: You plonk them in a subdir of /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/ and do same (afaik) |
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| 23:23.37 | cafuego | edico: I have /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/local |
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| 23:25.02 | edico | I have var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID and /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType |
| 23:25.11 | cafuego | So make a new dir and put your fonts in |
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| 23:26.21 | AddyK-L32 | Is there any way to install firefox with apt-get? |
| 23:26.30 | AddyK-L32 | under debian? :) |
| 23:26.40 | cafuego | Just add an Ubuntu repository ;-) |
| 23:26.46 | dkr | AddyK-L32: aptitude install iceweasel |
| 23:27.27 | salvin3 | AddyK-L32, apt-get install iceweasel |
| 23:27.29 | AddyK-L32 | Yes. dkr that's what I've been using :D but for some reason when installing google toolbar it asks for firefox, which is weird. |
| 23:27.34 | salvin3 | dkr, :P |
| 23:27.42 | AddyK-L32 | thanks salvin3 :) |
| 23:28.06 | AddyK-L32 | It's weird because iceweasel is so like firefox... |
| 23:28.23 | dkr | AddyK-L32: iceweasel is the same software. just a different name/logo due to licensing dispute |
| 23:28.46 | salvin3 | AddyK-L32, iceweasel is firefox with a different name and logo |
| 23:29.11 | fignew | AddyK-L32: In case you didn't know... iceweasel is just like firefox |
| 23:29.14 | AddyK-L32 | Yes... that is what I thought too after seing it... |
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| 23:29.44 | AddyK-L32 | my problem is that google toolbar I wanted to install... |
| 23:29.55 | AddyK-L32 | it thinks I'm not using firefox (o.O) |
| 23:30.11 | AddyK-L32 | That's the weird thing... |
| 23:30.14 | goauld | u cant trick it |
| 23:30.20 | AddyK-L32 | :| |
| 23:30.29 | salvin3 | AddyK-L32, but the google toolbar is useless in firefox... |
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| 23:30.36 | cafuego | AddyK-L32: Yeah, Debian is a bit retarded that way <heh> I'd just grab a firefox package named foirefox from a different distro (OR fix the Google Toolbar add-on) |
| 23:30.56 | goauld | addyk-l32 use "about:config" in address bar |
| 23:31.01 | goauld | find "version" |
| 23:31.15 | goauld | and change it to firefox 1.xxxxxx |
| 23:31.19 | goauld | it works |
| 23:31.32 | goauld | u will be able to install g toolbar |
| 23:31.37 | AddyK-L32 | OK... lets check... |
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| 23:32.16 | edico | cafuego, the fonts for the browser is my real big problem |
| 23:32.27 | goauld | find the string "general.useragent" |
| 23:32.32 | goauld | thats the trick |
| 23:33.03 | goauld | im using iceweasel i have set Firefox/2.0.0.11 |
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| 23:34.15 | AddyK-L32 | Worked like a charm, thanks :D |
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| 23:35.20 | goauld | now we need google talk ported to debian too |
| 23:35.31 | dreamer | I'm having some issues on my server (running an old kernel btw: 2.4.27-3-386 ), since 1-2 days 1) bitlebee can't connect to msn and 2) an mpd-script I use for irssi to /np my currect song can't connect to my desktop. anyone know how these could be related and perhaps resolved? (afaik nothing has been done to the configuration of the server) |
| 23:35.41 | bolt | How can I disable the pc speaker beep for errors in the console? (without pulling the pc speaker buzzer off the motherboard) |
| 23:36.45 | asg | bolt: /msg dpkg bell |
| 23:36.55 | bolt | thanks |
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| 23:37.58 | goauld | wow |
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| 23:38.15 | goauld | dpkg is the smarter |
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| 23:38.44 | eldowan | I've just installed etch on a laptop that is having acpi issues only o battery power. I'm thinking of giving lenny a shot, hoping that a newer kernel would work better. Is etch->lenny recommended, or should I wipe and install lenny from scratch? |
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| 23:40.43 | cloakable | :D |
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| 23:41.53 | cafuego | hrm |
| 23:42.05 | cafuego | !petasmite abrotman |
| 23:42.09 | abrotman | heh |
| 23:42.17 | cloakable | o.o |
| 23:42.21 | eldowan | sweet, loves the petasmite |
| 23:42.24 | yy | I'm getting a lot of emails at root from CRON about a permissions error... I changed the permissions to 777 on the folder in question but I'm still getting them. |
| 23:42.30 | cafuego | Well well, that factoid still lives eh? :-) |
| 23:42.48 | cafuego | yy: What folder and what SPECIFIC error? |
| 23:42.51 | abrotman | yy: and the error is? |
| 23:43.03 | minus198 | Damn the Windows EXT3 readability has increased.. |
| 23:43.10 | cafuego | Changing random folders to be mopde 777 is not normally a good idea. |
| 23:43.29 | yy | cp /var/www/munin <-- access denied |
| 23:43.29 | eldowan | minus198: hows that? |
| 23:43.47 | abrotman | yy: the full error |
| 23:43.48 | cafuego | yy: you *CERTAINLY* don't want that to be 777! |
| 23:43.56 | minus198 | eldowan, Last time I tired to use some "Read EXT3 drives in windows" the performace was really poor.. |
| 23:44.06 | minus198 | and now its just as fast as any drive.. |
| 23:44.19 | eldowan | minus198: hmm. nice. which app/driver are you using? |
| 23:44.26 | yy | subject is "Cron <munin@li-144> if [ -x /usr/bin/munin-cron ]; then /usr/bin/munin-cron; fi" |
| 23:44.36 | yy | "cp: accessing `/var/www/munin/': Permission denied" |
| 23:45.07 | minus198 | eldowan, http://www.fs-driver.org/ |
| 23:45.14 | cafuego | And you've set /var/www/munin to be mode 777? |
| 23:45.24 | yy | cafuego -- just to see if it would go away, but it didn't. |
| 23:45.31 | minus198 | eldowan, Its even implemented in the Windows Shell |
| 23:45.38 | eldowan | nice |
| 23:45.46 | minus198 | so its just to go to Computer and find the drive.. |
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| 23:46.01 | cafuego | yy: In other words, the permissions on a directory above /var/www/munin are not set correctly for munin to work |
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| 23:46.21 | cafuego | yy: What are the perms on /var and on /var/www ? |
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| 23:46.58 | minus198 | eldowan, 24 MB/s is the current transferrate.. |
| 23:47.27 | minus198 | eldowan, So its really good :D (I currently run Vista 64-bit after Debian failed me :() |
| 23:47.27 | eldowan | minus198: I'm going to have to give that a shot. it looks good. |
| 23:47.59 | eldowan | I've just installed etch on a laptop that is having acpi issues only o battery power. I'm thinking of giving lenny a shot, hoping that a newer kernel would work better. Is etch->lenny recommended, or should I wipe and install lenny from scratch? |
| 23:48.24 | minus198 | eldowan, I highly recommend that.. |
| 23:48.26 | dryrot | is there a lenny live cd you can try |
| 23:48.33 | cafuego | eldowan: You can always just build and try a vanilla kernel without wiping anything. |
| 23:48.42 | minus198 | dryrot, I think so.. hang on, gonna find a link |
| 23:48.52 | abrotman | eldowan: just dist-upgrade . if it fails .. try again |
| 23:48.54 | cafuego | or grab a lenny kernel package and install that |
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| 23:49.00 | dryrot | minus198: oh i dont care, tell eldowan |
| 23:49.16 | cafuego | There's no reason to upgrade the entire system just to see if a newer kernel would work. |
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| 23:49.30 | minus198 | dryrot, Ow.. Your sentence sounded a bit like a question |
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| 23:50.26 | yy | cafuego -- yes but I'm not really sure what that means, exactly. |
| 23:50.29 | andrew[andrboot] | Hi; i did a stupid thing the other day an rm'd my mysql data folder.. now when i remove it and install it again(via apt) it doesn't recreate that folder.. and myqsl doesn't run if i manually create and install the db's... any ideas? |
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| 23:50.38 | minus198 | cafuego, Well.. On laptops: I'd recommend to use the latest..(At least newer laptops) |
| 23:50.39 | yy | cafuego -- how could 777 access give a permissions error? maybe /var/ or /www/, eh? |
| 23:50.48 | eldowan | cafuego: I thought the lenny kernels were build with a different libc or somesuch. |
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| 23:51.13 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: does it give an error ? |
| 23:51.23 | andrew[andrboot] | @ abrotman yeap |
| 23:51.35 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: going to share it? |
| 23:51.49 | andrew[andrboot] | yea.. 1 sec >< |
| 23:52.07 | andrew[andrboot] | http://pb.udderweb.com/150 |
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| 23:52.22 | cafuego | eldowan: kernels do not depend on anything, except possibly mkinitrd, and even that isn't strictly necessary. |
| 23:52.43 | cafuego | yy: That's what i said |
| 23:52.47 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: i meant when you install |
| 23:52.56 | andrew[andrboot] | oh @ abrotman no install errors. |
| 23:53.06 | andrew[andrboot] | except when i do a mysql_db_install |
| 23:53.09 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: does /var/lib/mysql/ exist? |
| 23:53.09 | andrew[andrboot] | then it complanis hard. |
| 23:53.12 | eldowan | cafuego: ooh, nice. Thanks for that. I've started a dist-upgrade. How can I stop that, and flush the packages already downloaded? |
| 23:53.30 | andrew[andrboot] | @ abrotman i recreated it manually. |
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| 23:55.11 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: does the init script or postinst script want to create DBs ? |
| 23:55.54 | cizzi | whats /lib64 directory used for? i allrady have a /lib dir, and i'm running etch on a p3 |
| 23:55.57 | andrew[andrboot] | @ abrotman ?? |
| 23:55.58 | ravenbird | abrotman is also known as abortman |
| 23:55.59 | andrew[andrboot] | dunon. |
| 23:56.02 | abrotman | heh |
| 23:56.27 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: you can check /etc/init.d/mysql and /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.postinst |
| 23:57.08 | andrew[andrboot] | shite.. closed my home serv >< lol. |
| 23:57.17 | Fizzel | if you create a new kernel, do you select only one I0 Scheduler or many? (Deadline I/o scheduler |
| 23:57.30 | andrew[andrboot] | @ abrotman they are there.. when i run /etc/ini.dmysql start it failes. |
| 23:57.30 | ravenbird | okay, andrew[andrboot] |
| 23:57.43 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: stop using @ |
| 23:57.50 | andrew[andrboot] | lo. |
| 23:57.51 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: read them .. see which creates the initial DBs |
| 23:58.04 | abrotman | ravenbird: forget abrotman they |
| 23:58.05 | ravenbird | abrotman: i forgot abrotman they |
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| 23:58.48 | abrotman | andrew[andrboot]: what is the error if you /etc/init.d/mysql start ? |
| 23:59.05 | andrew[andrboot] | it just gives me dots then fails. |
| 23:59.17 | abrotman | ok |
