| 00:00.00 | bancai | Nyle, gaim sucks :) |
| 00:00.04 | Nyle | ir pidgin w/e it is |
| 00:00.06 | Nyle | or* |
| 00:00.06 | \amethyst | yigal: ##workingset might be helpful |
| 00:00.09 | yigal | xchat ? |
| 00:00.13 | Nyle | oh, I don't use that gome bullshit |
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| 00:00.20 | Nyle | yigal: IM? |
| 00:00.20 | nollan_ | Nyle, you could try gimp but i'm pretty sure that would be a dead end :-) |
| 00:00.24 | yigal | \amethyst: thanks I'll try |
| 00:00.25 | bancai | Nyle, what do you use then? |
| 00:00.28 | yigal | Nyle: oh, I see |
| 00:00.30 | Nyle | nollan_: hehe, I meant not gimp |
| 00:00.41 | Nyle | yigal: np |
| 00:00.41 | nollan_ | Nyle, yea :-) |
| 00:00.49 | SexyKen | Hey all - I have been using debian on servers for years - and use Windows as a desktop and laptop OS - for even longer. I'm getting sick of windows and it's crashes and sluggish ways...I haven't messed with Linux as a Desktop in forever, and was wondering what you all think I'd like? Also will I be able to have bluetooth stereo just work, and things like syncing my phone? Windows can't do this simplist shit anymore. |
| 00:00.54 | Nyle | bancai: I use KDE and only KDE |
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| 00:01.01 | bancai | nollan_, there should be a plugin for gimp to use gaim ;) |
| 00:01.07 | Nyle | the only gtk2 apps I use are iceweasel, IF konqueror doesn't work. |
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| 00:01.16 | bancai | Nyle, so you use kopete too? |
| 00:01.17 | Nyle | I LOATH anything gnome/gtk |
| 00:01.17 | nollan_ | bancai, hehe yea! that'd be nice |
| 00:01.32 | Nyle | bancai: I only talk to bother/sister/girlfriend |
| 00:01.42 | bancai | Nyle, skype? |
| 00:01.42 | Nyle | mostly I use skype to call pakistan, but i use aim sometimes |
| 00:01.50 | Nyle | bancai: propriety voice chat |
| 00:01.53 | Nyle | nonfree |
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| 00:02.02 | nollan_ | bancai, i use emesene and it has an proxy setting, haven't tried it thou |
| 00:02.18 | bancai | Nyle, i want to activate my kopete, but i am afraid of the packet sniff by other on this insecure network |
| 00:02.20 | SexyKen | Nyle: So you're a KDE guy huh? |
| 00:02.21 | drwahl | SexyKen: i have used NOTHING but linux for the last 5 years or so. it can do anything you want, but you might have to do some tweaking to set it up. there are walkthroughs for just about everything though, so if you dont mind 5 minutes of googling to find the answer, linux is definately the answer |
| 00:02.29 | \amethyst | bancai: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kopete/faq.html see FAQ 8.3 |
| 00:02.36 | Nyle | bancai: well, why do you have to worry about it? |
| 00:02.47 | \amethyst | bancai: you set the proxy settings in KDE control center, not in kopete specifically |
| 00:02.48 | Nyle | bancai: don't discuss things you are not supposed to |
| 00:02.53 | SexyKen | drwahl: And you run Debian on your desktop machines, with an X interface? |
| 00:02.59 | Nyle | :) |
| 00:03.02 | bancai | \amethyst, ahhh, i use gnome :( |
| 00:03.08 | Nyle | life sucks! |
| 00:03.09 | drwahl | SexyKen: yup, and laptops |
| 00:03.25 | bancai | Nyle, they can see my email address |
| 00:03.33 | bancai | Nyle, my friends contacts etc. |
| 00:03.34 | Nyle | what network are you on? |
| 00:03.35 | nollan_ | SexyKen, i use openbsd/freebsd as desktop and i know linux has a lot more to give when it comes to enduser-stuff |
| 00:03.47 | Nyle | this is not a private network I am guessing |
| 00:04.03 | bancai | Nyle, airport, open wireless network |
| 00:04.03 | nollan_ | SexyKen, and there is also wine if you need some critical app |
| 00:04.07 | Nyle | and if this isn't your network, more than likely your security policies of the ntwork don't allow usage of IM software |
| 00:04.10 | Nyle | hmm |
| 00:04.21 | SexyKen | Would you reocmmend I install 32 or 64 bit? |
| 00:04.25 | Nyle | 32 |
| 00:04.26 | drwahl | 32 |
| 00:04.34 | SexyKen | 64bit doesn't have enough driver supportage or what? |
| 00:04.35 | nollan_ | 42 |
| 00:04.37 | Nyle | unless |
| 00:04.44 | drwahl | rofl, 42? |
| 00:04.45 | Nyle | you don't care about java browser plugin or flash |
| 00:04.55 | Nyle | if you can say FUCK OFF to those two, you are good with amd64 |
| 00:05.00 | nollan_ | drwahl, the meaning of life |
| 00:05.01 | drwahl | i'm pretty sure they never released a 42 bit kernel... |
| 00:05.07 | Nyle | other than that i have not come across anything you couldn't run under amd64 |
| 00:05.13 | craigevil | if kopete doesnt work you can always try meebo or bitlbee |
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| 00:05.23 | Nyle | and if you NEED 32bit then you can use ia32libs/chroot method or w/e |
| 00:05.31 | Nyle | its really not that hard and you might learn something too |
| 00:05.35 | drwahl | but that is a pain in the butt |
| 00:05.39 | Nyle | its actually your call, 32 vs. 64 |
| 00:05.47 | Nyle | use em both, decide, stick with one you like. |
| 00:05.56 | drwahl | there isnt enough reason to switch to 64 bit, imho |
| 00:06.08 | Nyle | reason enough for you. |
| 00:06.11 | drwahl | its a bit of a pain to get some apps/drivers working |
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| 00:06.14 | Nyle | don't speak for everyone. |
| 00:06.26 | drwahl | of course, i can only speak of my own experiences |
| 00:06.29 | drwahl | :) |
| 00:06.30 | Nyle | note: I also recommended 32bit |
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| 00:06.31 | Nyle | :) |
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| 00:06.48 | goauld | i have 64 right now and everything is working ok |
| 00:06.55 | goauld | theres no pain |
| 00:06.55 | Nyle | debian amd64 |
| 00:06.59 | goauld | yes |
| 00:07.02 | Nyle | if you can top it, bring it on motha fucka |
| 00:07.02 | Nyle | ;) |
| 00:07.09 | Nyle | aint nothing got nothin on debian |
| 00:07.21 | Nyle | maybe openbsd with its security model/audits of the code |
| 00:07.23 | Nyle | maybe. |
| 00:07.23 | goauld | pain was one year ago u had to chroot crap and do neat stuff |
| 00:07.40 | Nyle | pain was when amd64 was unstable, still under development |
| 00:07.44 | Nyle | a while ago |
| 00:07.50 | Nyle | THAT was pain, but not its very good |
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| 00:07.58 | SexyKen | So KDe is Pimp Nyle? |
| 00:08.00 | Nyle | etch is still very sketchy for me with amd64 stability, but lenny/sid is bangin |
| 00:08.04 | Nyle | SexyKen: imo yes |
| 00:08.09 | goauld | this 64 is working real nice with absolutely NO additional work compared to 32 debian |
| 00:08.11 | drwahl | goauld: my biggest issues with a 64bit on a desktop is that wine didnt compile nicely (maybe it would now) and skype didnt either |
| 00:08.21 | Nyle | s/not/now* |
| 00:08.22 | SexyKen | What do you like about it that makes you feel it is PIMP |
| 00:08.24 | Nyle | now its very good(* |
| 00:08.25 | drwahl | and the chroot was just too much of a pain to get a 10% gain at tops |
| 00:08.46 | Nyle | SexyKen: it fits my needs, its very configurable, it looks good, its not a resource hog (4gb ram, 3.5ghz core 2) |
| 00:08.59 | Nyle | I just like it after having tried EVERYTHING almost from xwinman org |
| 00:09.00 | ignu | anyone know about using wicd in fluxbox??? |
| 00:09.04 | Nyle | I used to HATE kde :) |
| 00:09.13 | Nyle | ignu: #fluxbox does |
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| 00:10.09 | Nyle | also, I dislike the gtk2 file open/save (and a few other) dialogs (the design and application of said design) |
| 00:10.46 | user__ | hi all. I'm looking for a nice GNOME based editor to create html and ph files, something like Quanta. Any suggestions? |
| 00:10.54 | Nyle | if anything, I'd ditch everything for openbox/fluxbox, but kde is still going good for me. |
| 00:10.57 | Nyle | user__: bluefish |
| 00:10.59 | nollan_ | fluxbox/blackbox is the only right choice (imho) :-) |
| 00:11.04 | user__ | Nyle, thanks :) |
| 00:11.06 | Nyle | !bluefish |
| 00:11.06 | dpkg | bluefish is probably probably a GTK+ HTML editor for linux at http://bluefish.linuxbox.com/ |
| 00:11.11 | Nyle | very nice. |
| 00:11.42 | user__ | cool thanks |
| 00:11.46 | ignu | Nyle: I installed it, but now can't figure out how to get it working? I followed the instructions at ( http://wicd.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php?id=faq ). The instructions worked fine for install, but '- Great! I've installed Wicd. Now how do I run it?' instructions aren't working for me |
| 00:11.47 | user__ | !eat Nyle |
| 00:11.52 | Nyle | also you might be interested in |
| 00:11.55 | Nyle | hmm |
| 00:12.00 | user__ | yes please? :) |
| 00:12.09 | Nyle | ignu: made me forget what I Was gonna say |
| 00:12.10 | Nyle | :( |
| 00:12.22 | user__ | lol |
| 00:12.24 | Nyle | !nvu |
| 00:12.24 | dpkg | methinks nvu is a Mozilla based website editing program, at http://www.nvu.com |
| 00:12.26 | ignu | Nyle: sorry :-) |
| 00:12.30 | user__ | ciao |
| 00:12.33 | Nyle | nvu is wysisyg one |
| 00:12.37 | Nyle | graphical |
| 00:12.40 | Nyle | user__: bye |
| 00:12.41 | user__ | oh wow |
| 00:12.43 | user__ | bye |
| 00:12.59 | Nyle | ignu: havn't used gnome since 2.8 or so |
| 00:13.02 | Nyle | no idea! |
| 00:13.14 | Nyle | ignu: try #gnome on ird.gnome.org |
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| 00:13.17 | Nyle | irc* |
| 00:13.27 | craigevil | scared him off by being too helpful, what will ppl think |
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| 00:13.33 | Nyle | who? |
| 00:13.40 | craigevil | user |
| 00:13.42 | Nyle | oh |
| 00:14.13 | ignu | Nyle: I don't understand why you're pointing me to gnome sites ... I'm trying to get away from gnome ... |
| 00:14.25 | Nyle | ignu: but you're using gnome? |
| 00:14.45 | Nyle | !wicd |
| 00:14.47 | Nyle | ? |
| 00:14.52 | ignu | I loaded debian to console, then added 'aptitude install xorg fluxbox gdm' |
| 00:15.00 | yigal | \amethyst: If I use "-j2" switch gcc creates Caustics.h.gch is this normal? |
| 00:15.06 | Nyle | did i mix people up? |
| 00:15.07 | ignu | now I'm trying to find something to manage my wifi signal |
| 00:15.16 | ignu | thought wicd would do that |
| 00:15.25 | Nyle | oh yes i did |
| 00:15.29 | Nyle | nm then |
| 00:15.36 | Nyle | ignu: you have nothing to do with gnome, lol |
| 00:15.43 | SexyKen | You use debian though right for your desktop+kde shit yea |
| 00:15.48 | Nyle | ok, wireless-tools |
| 00:15.59 | Nyle | install that pacakge and use that to do stuff |
| 00:16.08 | Nyle | for a gui wifi manager, I use kwifimanager *kde program* |
| 00:16.16 | ignu | Nyle: are you suggesting 'aptitude install wireless-tools'? |
| 00:16.21 | Nyle | yes |
| 00:16.22 | Nyle | yes I am |
| 00:16.28 | ignu | thx much ... I'll try it |
| 00:16.32 | Nyle | sure |
| 00:16.36 | Nyle | !wireless-tools |
| 00:16.41 | Nyle | !info wireless-tools |
| 00:16.54 | nollan_ | isnt there some sysctl value that'll give you the wifi signal |
| 00:16.58 | Nyle | slow ass bot |
| 00:17.08 | SexyKen | So does Ubuntu suck ass or is it all it's "cracked up" to be....Dell thinks it's worth pretty good huh |
| 00:17.09 | Nyle | he said he wants to manage his wifi signal |
| 00:17.16 | Nyle | fuck dell and fuck ubuntu |
| 00:17.24 | Nyle | you want a good product from a good company |
| 00:17.26 | dpkg | wireless-tools: (Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions), section net, is optional. Version: 29-1 (sid), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 256 kB |
| 00:17.27 | Nyle | hp + sarge ftw. |
| 00:17.36 | Nyle | hp + sarge PWNZ debian+ ubuntu |
| 00:17.41 | Nyle | any day of the fucking week. |
| 00:18.34 | Nyle | I wonder what hp will do after sarge recieves no more security updates... |
| 00:18.56 | drwahl | why would someone use aptitude instead of apt-get ? |
| 00:18.57 | nollan_ | move on to etch ? |
| 00:19.07 | Nyle | !why aptitude |
| 00:19.07 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info |
| 00:19.16 | drwahl | !why not aptitude |
| 00:19.17 | dpkg | aptitude has many bugs, such as #299009, which other APT frontends do not have. |
| 00:19.39 | Nyle | MANY good reasons. Mostly for dependency resolution, solutions |
| 00:19.40 | Nyle | etc. |
| 00:19.45 | Nyle | so |
| 00:20.03 | drwahl | it seems as though apt does it just fine. is it really THAT much better at it? |
| 00:20.10 | kgoetz | new apt versions tell you of unneeded deps too |
| 00:20.14 | ignu | Nyle: What should I do next? I just did 'aptitude install wireless-tools' then I came here and tried 'man wireless-tools' and '/msg dpkg wireless-tools' and I tried google |
| 00:20.28 | Nyle | ignu: read package documentation |
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| 00:20.37 | Nyle | ignu: how to setup wireless in linux etc. google |
| 00:20.49 | Nyle | ignu: basically wireless-tools provides the means to configure and manage your wifi |
| 00:20.52 | drwahl | ok, i'm headed home. laterz all! |
| 00:21.02 | Nyle | ignu: like ifconfig, it gives you `iwconfig' etc. |
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| 00:21.22 | Nyle | ignu: look at the package docs |
| 00:21.33 | ignu | Nyle: where do I get package docs? |
| 00:21.43 | x_link | Nyle: Hi! |
| 00:21.45 | Nyle | ignu: dpkg -L wireless-tools|grep doc |
| 00:21.48 | Nyle | x_link: hey bro |
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| 00:22.05 | Nyle | x_link: how are you? long time no see? I hope you and your family are well. |
| 00:22.11 | x_link | Nyle: I got another 2GB Crucial BallstiX PC8500 yesterday and I got a Corsair HX620 Watt today =) |
| 00:22.18 | Nyle | nice |
| 00:22.23 | x_link | Nyle: I'm just fine thanks, my family too. |
| 00:22.25 | cleo_ | any one here know realplayer? |
| 00:22.25 | x_link | And you? |
| 00:22.36 | x_link | Nyle: When I do "free -m" it only shows 3.5GB =/ |
| 00:22.40 | Nyle | I got 4gb 800mhz ram, 3.5ghz core 2 duo (ram at 1:1 fsb:dram @ 1000mhz) |
| 00:22.41 | Nyle | :D |
| 00:22.42 | x_link | Shouldn't it show 4GB RAM+ |
| 00:22.50 | Nyle | x_link: get yourself amd64 kernel |
| 00:22.51 | Nyle | OR |
| 00:23.03 | Nyle | x_link: recompile your 32bit kernel with big_mem' |
| 00:23.06 | x_link | But 32-bits is supposed to support 4GB RAM+ |
| 00:23.07 | cleo_ | any one here know realplayer? |
| 00:23.09 | Nyle | BIG_MEM option |
| 00:23.19 | x_link | Nyle: I don't know how to do that =( |
| 00:23.22 | x_link | Nyle: Is that hard? |
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| 00:23.28 | Nyle | well then I guess you beter learn |
| 00:23.37 | Nyle | not really, if you try to understand how the process works |
| 00:23.43 | x_link | Okej. |
| 00:23.52 | Nyle | of course, I have no energy to explain it, so try |
| 00:23.54 | Nyle | !kpkg |
| 00:23.54 | dpkg | it has been said that kpkg is a KDE package manager designed for handling RPM files, but can also somewhat handle debs. If you're looking for kernel-package ask me about that instead |
| 00:23.59 | Nyle | hmm |
| 00:24.00 | Nyle | tht sucks |
| 00:24.03 | Nyle | !make-kpkg |
| 00:24.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, make-kpkg is the tool that you use for compiling the kernel the Debian Way (tm). It makes a package for your custom kernel which you can install and remove easily using dpkg. See http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html, man make-kpkg and ask me about <kernel compile> <kp mantra> <kernel build-deps>. |
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| 00:24.13 | Nyle | there you go, happy reading. |
| 00:24.15 | x_link | Nyle: Okey, I will maybe as you tomorrow then =) |
| 00:24.29 | x_link | Nyle: Do you think I should change it to BIG_MEM or should I leave it as it is now? |
| 00:24.38 | cleo_ | any one here know realplayer? |
| 00:24.39 | Nyle | x_link: I wouln't worry about it |
| 00:24.44 | x_link | Nyle: Okey. |
| 00:24.45 | Nyle | !anyone |
| 00:24.45 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 00:24.50 | Nyle | cleo_: ^^ |
| 00:24.54 | cleo_ | ok |
| 00:25.06 | Nyle | !tell cleo_ -about ask |
| 00:25.16 | x_link | Nyle: I will just get a new CPU for this beast, then it's a great computer. |
| 00:25.21 | Nyle | better to just ask a question, concise, and direct, to the point |
| 00:25.30 | x_link | Well, a GPU is more important right now. I just have 7600GT right now. |
| 00:25.31 | Nyle | x_link: what u got? |
| 00:25.32 | cleo_ | so i want to install reaplayer but i don't found any pakage |
| 00:25.33 | x_link | 8800GT =) |
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| 00:25.41 | craigevil | realplayer is in the debian-multimedia.org repo |
| 00:25.41 | x_link | I will proberly get 8800GT =) |
| 00:25.47 | Nyle | cleo_: you don't need it |
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| 00:25.57 | Nyle | cleo_: mplayer + w32codecs can do realmedia just fine |
| 00:25.59 | cleo_ | how can i read |
| 00:26.01 | x_link | Nyle: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 + Intel Dual-Core E2200 2.2GHz @ 3Ghz |
| 00:26.04 | Nyle | realplayer10 is fucking bloatware |
| 00:26.09 | cleo_ | so |
| 00:26.09 | x_link | Nyle: My girlfriend bought it for me as present. |
| 00:26.09 | Nyle | !dmm |
| 00:26.10 | dpkg | i guess dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see . http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch> |
| 00:26.17 | Nyle | x_link: nice gf |
| 00:26.21 | x_link | Nyle: I'm waiting for E8400 or something. |
| 00:26.30 | x_link | Maybe Q9300/9600. |
| 00:26.35 | cleo_ | how can i install w32codecs |
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| 00:26.46 | Nyle | x_link: I'm gonna sell this pc later and get a new quad core, 8gb ram, and run several oses on it |
| 00:26.54 | anxt | is bootsplash in testing a mere .deb install? |
| 00:26.55 | x_link | Nyle: Okey =) |
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| 00:27.02 | Nyle | cleo_: on etch? |
| 00:27.13 | Nyle | cleo_: debian/etch? |
| 00:27.14 | cleo_ | yes |
| 00:27.17 | cleo_ | yes |
| 00:27.19 | craigevil | just run several OSes in vbox |
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| 00:27.21 | x_link | Nyle: I must go now, she's yelling all the damn time =) |
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| 00:27.24 | Nyle | !debian-multimedia.etch |
| 00:27.25 | dpkg | To add the debian-multimedia repository run (as root) # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update && aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring && aptitude update. For an alternative way to load Marillat's archive key, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. |
| 00:27.28 | x_link | She wants to watch a mobie. |
| 00:27.29 | Nyle | cleo_: ^^ look up |
| 00:27.32 | x_link | Nyle: See you tomorrow man! |
| 00:27.34 | x_link | Good night! |
| 00:27.36 | Nyle | see ya buddy |
| 00:27.37 | cleo_ | yes? |
| 00:27.38 | Nyle | night |
| 00:27.47 | Nyle | !tell cleo_ -about debian-multimedia.etch |
| 00:27.48 | cleo_ | how can i know that i have debian\etch |
| 00:27.57 | Nyle | cleo_: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:28.04 | cleo_ | how can i know my debian version |
| 00:28.05 | cleo_ | oik |
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| 00:28.08 | Nyle | !tell cleo_ -about version |
| 00:28.21 | Nyle | !tell cleo_ -about dpkgbot |
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| 00:29.47 | Roey | Hello, anyone here have experience using wget? I have a remote resource of the form http://www.remote.com/dirA/dirB/DIRS, and I want to download everything from DIRS on down. I tried -np, but wget still re-creates the entire dir heirarchy leading to DIRS. I tried --cut-dirs but that didn't help. What else is there? |
| 00:30.03 | tarzeau | Roey: i'd use lftp and mget * |
| 00:30.17 | Roey | hrm. |
| 00:30.19 | Roey | why lftp? |
| 00:30.22 | Nyle | lftp |
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| 00:30.57 | Nyle | !lftp |
| 00:30.57 | dpkg | lftp is probably a rockin' ncftp killer or the leet FTP client. my daddy!, or the quick lftp howto: lftp foo? get blah? cd bleh? ^z to background d/l's? jobs to list them? |
| 00:31.01 | Roey | :) |
| 00:31.06 | Roey | got it |
| 00:31.08 | Roey | thanks |
| 00:31.49 | Nyle | dpkg lftp is also http://lftp.yar.ru/ |
| 00:31.49 | dpkg | Nyle: okay |
| 00:31.58 | bwlang | i'm trying to debug why an nfs client is failing to mount exported directories... i'm using nfs-kernel-server, but i see nothing in the logs when the client attempts and fails to mount... is there somewhere to turn up logging? |
| 00:32.15 | Nyle | bwlang: portmap running? |
| 00:33.06 | Nyle | bwlang: fails to mount? errors? no errors? anything useful for us? |
| 00:33.16 | cleo_ | Nyle i have install package |
| 00:33.18 | Nyle | bwlang: server nfs logs nothing? |
| 00:33.25 | cleo_ | but i don't have mppalyer |
| 00:33.26 | Nyle | bwlang: client mount produces no errors? |
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| 00:33.35 | cleo_ | i have just totem |
| 00:33.35 | Nyle | cleo_: install mplayer |
| 00:33.39 | cleo_ | ok |
| 00:33.44 | Nyle | I don't think totem uses w32codecs |
| 00:34.08 | Nyle | it uses the xine engine and xine doesn't reference w32codecs (i have no idea except for mplayer as i don't use anything else_) |
| 00:34.11 | craigevil | doesn't totem use gstreamer |
| 00:34.15 | Nyle | it does? |
| 00:34.20 | Nyle | no idea man :( |
| 00:34.26 | cleo_ | ok |
| 00:34.27 | piju | craigevil; yes, also can use gxine |
| 00:34.30 | \amethyst | there are two different backends for totem |
| 00:34.35 | Nyle | ahh |
| 00:34.46 | Nyle | \amethyst: which? |
| 00:34.52 | craigevil | none here either never used gnome |
| 00:34.55 | \amethyst | Nyle: totem-gstreamer and totem-xine |
| 00:35.00 | Nyle | ah ok |
| 00:35.01 | Linuturk | Wisdom teeth removal hurts |
| 00:35.13 | \amethyst | Linuturk: dry socket |
| 00:35.14 | Nyle | pulled out your wisdom teeth |
| 00:35.19 | \amethyst | Linuturk: it sucks :) |
| 00:35.20 | Nyle | now he is a moron ;) |
| 00:35.21 | Nyle | :) |
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| 00:35.28 | Nyle | hahaha |
| 00:35.32 | Linuturk | I am hoping for no dry socket |
| 00:35.32 | Nyle | j/k man j/k |
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| 00:35.41 | bwlang | Nyle: it does, it says bad mount options or other problem... but i think i have it now... theclient rpc server was stuck... killed it and restarted and i can mount now. |
| 00:35.51 | Nyle | bwlang: ok |
| 00:36.21 | Nyle | hmm |
| 00:36.30 | Nyle | I think kaffeine can use either 3 of them (backends) |
| 00:36.54 | \amethyst | Linuturk: don't suck too hard then :) |
| 00:36.58 | Nyle | I don't use it, but I think I saw w32codecs listed in the kaffeine window sometime, as well as I think it can use xine and gstreamer too maybe |
| 00:37.07 | Nyle | \amethyst: ugh. |
| 00:37.11 | Nyle | sicko :) |
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| 00:37.34 | Nyle | reminded of that American Wedding movie |
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| 00:37.48 | Nyle | stifler got a bj from some old grandma |
| 00:37.52 | Nyle | lol, toothless |
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| 00:42.03 | cleo_ | Nyle i have install mplayer how can i use it? |
| 00:42.08 | cleo_ | to read .rm |
| 00:42.14 | Nyle | cleo_: easy, type mlayer filename.rm |
| 00:42.15 | Nyle | :) |
| 00:42.17 | Nyle | mplayer* |
| 00:42.27 | Nyle | cleo_: there is a gui for it too called `gmplayer` |
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| 00:42.44 | Nyle | you should have a debian/menu entry for it in your window manager |
| 00:42.52 | Nyle | if not, install menu, update-menus |
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| 00:43.24 | Nyle | cleo_: did you installed w32codecs too? |
| 00:43.28 | Nyle | you need them. |
| 00:44.03 | cleo_ | no |
| 00:44.12 | Nyle | without it you cannot run rm files |
| 00:44.16 | cleo_ | so now i read mp3 with mplayer |
| 00:44.16 | Nyle | i think |
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| 00:44.40 | Nyle | sure, after you install aptitude install w32codecs, mplayer will pretty much play anything |
| 00:44.47 | Nyle | any kinda file you can throw at it |
| 00:44.52 | cleo_ | i don't found aptitude search w32codecs |
| 00:44.56 | Nyle | well, not literally |
| 00:45.10 | Nyle | cleo_: did you added debian-multimedia repository to /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 00:45.21 | bwlang | now i'm gettting a permission denied error upon trying to switch to a directory ... the user on both systems has the same uid (1000), the permission on the directory is g+rwx and the gid on both systems is the same on both 1002.. did i forget something? The only error i see is "permission denied" with nothing in the server or client logs |
| 00:45.22 | Nyle | if you did, did you do aptitude update? |
| 00:45.22 | cleo_ | ok |
| 00:45.24 | cleo_ | ij |
| 00:45.30 | cleo_ | thanks alot |
| 00:45.38 | cleo_ | :) |
| 00:45.39 | Nyle | cleo_: the bot tells you in your /msg window what to do |
| 00:45.43 | Nyle | sure np |
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| 00:46.10 | Nyle | bwlang: how is it exported? |
| 00:46.33 | bwlang | Nyle: 192.168.10.1/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,sync,no_subtree_check) |
| 00:46.43 | Agiofws | can i connect a wifi card to 2 AP 's ? ? |
| 00:46.48 | bwlang | Nyle: i can see the root, but not the subdirectory i want |
| 00:46.48 | Nyle | hm |
| 00:47.19 | bwlang | my user can go into the subdirectory on the server - so it's isolated to an nfs issue. |
| 00:47.32 | Nyle | and how are you mounting it? |
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| 00:50.57 | bwlang | here's the call from strace ls open("moneydance/", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|0x80000) = -1 EACCES |
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| 00:51.23 | bwlang | Nyle: mounting via fstab ... like this open("moneydance/", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|0x80000) = -1 EACCES |
| 00:51.45 | bwlang | Nyle: sorry, bad paste ... strange:/home/finance /home/finance nfs user,rw,noauto |
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| 00:54.14 | bwlang | Nyle: gotta run... if you think of something i'll check the channel when i get back. - thanks for looking ;) |
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| 00:54.44 | Nyle | its a permission issue |
| 00:55.02 | Nyle | bwlang: I think its a uid/gid mapping conflict |
| 00:55.44 | Nyle | not a conflict but problem |
| 00:55.45 | Nyle | w/e |
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| 00:59.04 | Nyle | i am really very bored, do da, do da |
| 00:59.16 | Nyle | la la, la la, lalala, do da do da |
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| 01:03.46 | Sazpaimon | so like |
| 01:03.51 | Sazpaimon | I have this huge tar.gz file |
| 01:03.59 | tarzeau | Nyle: play bubbros or sauerbraten? |
| 01:04.24 | Nyle | tarzeau: really lonely in those two games are ya;) |
| 01:04.25 | tarzeau | huge tar.gz? won't impress anyone |
| 01:04.31 | Sazpaimon | and I need to extract one file from it, but I dont want to wait to go through the entire archive to get the file (which is near the end of the file) |
| 01:04.36 | tarzeau | Nyle: nah just played against a friend |
| 01:04.47 | Nyle | tarzeau: I'm busy learning some tools for work |
| 01:04.50 | Sazpaimon | is there a way to extract this file without waiting forever? |
| 01:04.50 | tarzeau | but i'm trying some nethack now, getting a good one up, then go sleep |
| 01:04.54 | Sazpaimon | or am I pretty much screwed |
| 01:05.09 | Nyle | I'm the admin, and they have some proprietary tools for remote management |
| 01:05.15 | Nyle | its not hard,just a lot of docs |
| 01:05.17 | Nyle | lot of docs |
| 01:05.32 | tarzeau | Nyle: no ssh? |
| 01:05.39 | Nyle | not *nix |
| 01:05.42 | Nyle | :( |
| 01:05.56 | tarzeau | Nyle: not every *nix rocks. debian! |
| 01:06.01 | Roey | hey all again |
| 01:06.03 | Roey | regarding lftp |
| 01:06.06 | Nyle | today I was writing some scripts my boss wanted for tape backups |
| 01:06.17 | Nyle | I just asked him why he .... but then I learned never to ask him that again |
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| 01:06.24 | Sazpaimon | I guess not :( |
| 01:06.25 | Nyle | just do what he says and shut up |
| 01:06.25 | Sazpaimon | oh well |
| 01:06.31 | Nyle | you can't tell management anything |
| 01:07.06 | Sazpaimon | I guess its kind of a useless concept to untar an archive backwards or something |
| 01:07.08 | Roey | I tried this: lftp www.resource.com:~home/misc> mirror "DIR1" "DIR2" "DIR3", But got "Mirror: Access failed: 404 Not Found (~home/misc/DIR1/subdir1)" (subdir1/ is a subdirectory of DIR1) |
| 01:07.14 | Roey | (thisis with lftp) |
| 01:07.16 | Roey | any suggestions? |
| 01:07.32 | Roey | why isn't htis mirror command recursing to lower subdirectories? |
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| 01:11.21 | Roey | hey, can anyone help me here with lftp? question was asked above. |
| 01:11.37 | bush | apparently not ;) |
| 01:12.09 | Roey | aye |
| 01:12.10 | Roey | :( |
| 01:12.11 | Roey | sigh |
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| 01:17.18 | phix | hey |
| 01:17.29 | phix | What is the commandt to update my gpg keys for dpkg? |
| 01:17.44 | path__ | !gpg |
| 01:17.44 | dpkg | gpg is, like, the GNU Privacy Guard, a free public-key encryption program available , now in main . or http://www.gnupg.org, but apt-get install gnupg |
| 01:17.53 | path__ | !apt-key |
| 01:18.04 | Nyle | phix: /topic |
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| 01:20.28 | phix | thank you Nyle |
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| 01:24.01 | babika | hi all |
| 01:24.22 | babika | i have installed apache php and mysql |
| 01:24.31 | babika | but my apache cant read php file |
| 01:24.56 | babika | can anyone help me |
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| 01:31.23 | ttyS1 | I'm trying to install nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6.18-6-686, it requires nvidia-kernel-common but it says this package is not available |
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| 01:33.19 | Agiofws | does debian support Vmware ? packages ? |
| 01:33.57 | Nyle | no |
| 01:34.22 | Asmooh | Outgoing rates: 44740.0 kbits/sec <<< thats 44mbit? |
| 01:34.45 | \amethyst | 44.74 Mbit/sec |
| 01:34.49 | Asmooh | ok |
| 01:34.50 | Asmooh | nice |
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| 01:38.46 | Agiofws | even in lenny no vmware server ? |
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| 01:39.52 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: it's not free software, nor can we legally distribute it, so no. |
| 01:42.23 | Agiofws | Agiofws: i doubt they do, as they are oss snobs and the vmware licenses aren't "good enough". |
| 01:42.25 | Agiofws | haha |
| 01:42.30 | Agiofws | anyway i need it |
| 01:43.36 | lontra | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:44.23 | Agiofws | i don;t run windows cause i don;t like it |
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| 01:46.13 | eifzon | how do I set the right tine? |
| 01:46.16 | eifzon | time* |
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| 01:46.47 | \amethyst | Agiofws: what do you need vmware for? |
| 01:47.10 | Agiofws | eifzon, man date |
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| 01:47.38 | \amethyst | Agiofws: something that xen, virtualbox-ose, and qemu don't support? |
| 01:47.46 | Agiofws | \amethyst, to connect to 2 isp's simultaneously |
| 01:47.47 | r3m0t | hello, is there a way to transfer my installation to LVM, without having a place to copy all my files to? |
| 01:48.03 | Agiofws | hm... |
| 01:48.11 | Agiofws | which one shouldi go for ? |
| 01:48.18 | \amethyst | Agiofws: why do you need two operating systems to connect to two ISPs simultaneously? |
| 01:48.33 | Agiofws | cause i will have 2 dif gateways |
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| 01:48.44 | Agiofws | and i can;t do load balancing |
| 01:48.57 | Agiofws | it just does not work |
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| 01:49.39 | \amethyst | Agiofws: any of those (also kvm) should work fine... qemu is a bit slow without the kqemu modules |
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| 01:49.59 | loquitus_of_borg | this may or may not be relevant, but I am trying to execute each line output from the following but do not know how to accomplish it?: find somedir1/ -type f -printf 'cmp "%p" "somedir2/%f"\n' |
| 01:50.23 | mop | hello all, i will use wlan in my house and is the first time to deal with pci wlan card, what should i do to configure pci wlan card, the card is netgear EG311, anyone can help me ? |
| 01:50.31 | r3m0t | loquitus_of_borg: I think you want xargs |
| 01:50.40 | r3m0t | loquitus_of_borg: or find -exec |
| 01:50.52 | loquitus_of_borg | r3m0t: exec does not let me mess with the filename |
| 01:51.13 | \amethyst | loquitus_of_borg: it does if you use a shell as the thing to exec |
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| 01:51.47 | loquitus_of_borg | amethyst: ok... |
| 01:51.58 | \amethyst | loquitus_of_borg: find somedir1 -type f -exec sh -c 'cmp "$1" "somedir2/$(basename "$1")"' -- {} \; |
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| 01:52.28 | \amethyst | loquitus_of_borg: however, that and what you originally wrote will compare somedir1/foo/bar against somedir2/bar |
| 01:52.39 | \amethyst | loquitus_of_borg: if you want to compare against somedir2/foo/bar, then: |
| 01:53.16 | \amethyst | loquitus_of_borg: find somedir1 -type f -exec sh -c 'cmp "$1" "somedir2${1#somedir1}"' -- {} \; |
| 01:53.23 | loquitus_of_borg | amethyst: there is assumed similarity in the paths of the two... |
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| 01:53.41 | obnauticus | err when i try to add a user i get the following error |
| 01:53.48 | obnauticus | groupadd: cannot rewrite group file |
| 01:53.49 | \amethyst | loquitus_of_borg: %f and basename strip off *all* the directories, not just the somedir1 part |
| 01:53.51 | obnauticus | adduser: `/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 1006 print' returned error code 10. Exiting. |
| 01:54.29 | \amethyst | obnauticus: what does ls -l /etc/group say? |
| 01:54.45 | obnauticus | srv-03:/var/lock# ls -l /etc/group |
| 01:54.46 | obnauticus | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 827 2008-02-27 17:48 /etc/group |
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| 01:56.02 | obnauticus | \amethyst i have rw :\ |
| 01:56.17 | \amethyst | obnauticus: what do getent group 1006 and getent group print say? |
| 01:56.33 | obnauticus | both say nothing |
| 01:57.05 | loquitus_of_borg | amethyst: where is basename coming from |
| 01:57.26 | \amethyst | loquitus_of_borg: it's a unix command that takes a filename and strips off the directory part |
| 01:57.33 | \amethyst | loquitus_of_borg: man basename |
| 01:57.35 | loquitus_of_borg | ah |
| 01:58.03 | \amethyst | obnauticus: are you using selinux by any chance? |
| 01:58.08 | obnauticus | no |
| 01:59.08 | \amethyst | obnauticus: and what does grep ^group /etc/nsswitch.conf say? |
| 01:59.19 | obnauticus | group: compat |
| 01:59.27 | \amethyst | obnauticus: hm, so that's right, too |
| 02:00.07 | \amethyst | obnauticus: the only thing I can think of is to try stracing the groupadd and see why it's failing |
| 02:00.12 | obnauticus | well |
| 02:00.19 | obnauticus | i can err manually modify the group file |
| 02:00.22 | obnauticus | and it writes to it |
| 02:01.28 | obnauticus | uh oh |
| 02:01.30 | obnauticus | something went wrong |
| 02:01.36 | \amethyst | obnauticus: ? |
| 02:01.41 | obnauticus | i tried writing to /etc/shadow |
| 02:01.45 | obnauticus | and for some reason it's all gone now |
| 02:01.45 | obnauticus | :\ |
| 02:01.50 | \amethyst | all gone? |
| 02:01.57 | obnauticus | there's nothing in the file |
| 02:02.00 | obnauticus | im adding lines now |
| 02:02.05 | \amethyst | obnauticus: that's bad |
| 02:02.07 | obnauticus | ya i know |
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| 02:02.37 | \amethyst | obnauticus: do you have a backup named /etc/shadow- or /etc/shadow.org or something like that? |
| 02:02.47 | obnauticus | yes |
| 02:02.49 | obnauticus | shadow - |
| 02:02.51 | obnauticus | i'll copy it |
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| 02:03.06 | obnauticus | su: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info |
| 02:03.06 | obnauticus | (Ignored) |
| 02:03.07 | obnauticus | :\ |
| 02:03.08 | \amethyst | obnauticus: you should always use vipw, vipw -s, vigr, and vigr -s when manually editing /etc/passwd shadow group and gshadow |
| 02:03.15 | \amethyst | obnauticus: do you have an open root shell? |
| 02:03.18 | obnauticus | ytes. |
| 02:03.20 | obnauticus | yes* |
| 02:03.23 | \amethyst | obnauticus: use that one then :) |
| 02:04.10 | Firefishe | I get this error when using apt-get to install the grip ripper/encoder and one of it's needed libraries: http://pastebin.ca/921488 |
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| 02:04.27 | Agiofws | \amethyst, isn't kvm gui ? |
| 02:04.45 | Agiofws | cause its giving me a command line |
| 02:05.19 | obnauticus | \amethyst thank god for having the cyclades serial console switch eh |
| 02:05.19 | obnauticus | lol |
| 02:05.25 | \amethyst | Agiofws: I don't know kvm very well unfortunately, just what it does :( |
| 02:05.45 | obnauticus | I still cannot lock the group fil |
| 02:05.45 | obnauticus | e |
| 02:05.46 | obnauticus | for some reason |
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| 02:07.02 | \amethyst | obnauticus: wait, what's the error about locking? |
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| 02:07.18 | obnauticus | groupadd: unable to lock group file |
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| 02:07.35 | \amethyst | obnauticus: do you have a copy of vigr or something running? |
| 02:07.40 | obnauticus | no |
| 02:07.43 | \amethyst | obnauticus: if not, try removing /etc/group.lock |
| 02:07.45 | obnauticus | i have a weird user running called freerad |
| 02:07.49 | obnauticus | shadow:x:42:freerad |
| 02:08.02 | obnauticus | and there is no file /etc/group.lock |
| 02:08.30 | \amethyst | obnauticus: does fuser /etc/group print anything? |
| 02:08.39 | \amethyst | freerad as in RADIUS? |
| 02:08.41 | obnauticus | nope |
| 02:08.49 | obnauticus | ya it's the freeradius user |
| 02:08.54 | obnauticus | i didn't know it was in the shadow group though |
| 02:09.17 | obnauticus | fuser /etc/group prints nothing |
| 02:09.22 | \amethyst | obnauticus: presumably freeradius needs to access the shadow file to do its authetication stuff |
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| 02:09.31 | \amethyst | obnauticus: maybe freeradius locks the group file? |
| 02:10.27 | obnauticus | dunno |
| 02:10.40 | obnauticus | i'll try killing the process |
| 02:10.40 | \amethyst | obnauticus: are there any *.lock files in /etc ? |
| 02:10.47 | \amethyst | obnauticus: gshadow.lock maybe? |
| 02:10.53 | obnauticus | srv-03:/etc# ls -la | grep .lock |
| 02:10.54 | obnauticus | -rw------- 1 root root 0 2007-07-20 17:19 .pwd.lock |
| 02:10.54 | obnauticus | -rw------- 1 root root 5 2008-02-27 17:48 shadow.lock |
| 02:11.16 | \amethyst | obnauticus: so something has your /etc/shadow locked anyway |
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| 02:11.39 | \amethyst | and .pwd.lock is probably a lock on /etc/passwd |
| 02:11.52 | obnauticus | heh |
| 02:12.01 | \amethyst | hm |
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| 02:12.03 | Firefishe | I'm getting an apt-get install error, posted *here*: http://pastebin.ca/921488 . Please note the `writerscafe' line. This is from another package's install, and has nothing to do with the current install. |
| 02:12.20 | obnauticus | \amethyst would rebooting fix it? |
| 02:12.34 | overclocker | hi, when i try to move a big file between Xen's DomU i got this error: "Disconnecting: Corrupted MAC on input.", ideas? |
| 02:13.14 | \amethyst | obnauticus: I don't know if it would or not |
| 02:13.25 | obnauticus | i'll try it anyway |
| 02:13.26 | \amethyst | obnauticus: does fuser /etc/.pwd.lock /etc/shadow.lock print anything? |
| 02:13.37 | obnauticus | n |
| 02:13.37 | obnauticus | o |
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| 02:14.35 | obnauticus | \amethyst this is weird :\ |
| 02:14.53 | \amethyst | obnauticus: running fuser as root, right? |
| 02:14.58 | obnauticus | yes |
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| 02:15.10 | anirban | HI |
| 02:15.11 | obnauticus | srv-03:/etc# fuser /etc |
| 02:15.18 | anirban | How to configure wifi |
| 02:15.24 | obnauticus | /etc: 7074c |
| 02:15.27 | obnauticus | that's the only thing going on |
| 02:15.29 | anirban | I able to setup my wifi card |
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| 02:15.32 | obnauticus | anirban `man iwconfig` |
| 02:15.38 | \amethyst | obnauticus: that's probably your shell ('c' means 'current directory') |
| 02:15.55 | anirban | and the access point in encrypted |
| 02:15.56 | \amethyst | obnauticus: (note that fuser /etc doesn't check the files in /etc) |
| 02:16.06 | obnauticus | i'll try rebooting |
| 02:16.10 | obnauticus | hopefully it will fix it |
| 02:16.16 | \amethyst | obnauticus: try stopping freerad, removing the shadow.lock, and then adding the group |
| 02:16.25 | obnauticus | k i'll try that before rebooting |
| 02:16.30 | \amethyst | if that doesn't work you can try rebooting, but I don't know what that will accomplish |
| 02:17.01 | obnauticus | useradd: unable to lock password file |
| 02:17.03 | obnauticus | hrh |
| 02:17.09 | obnauticus | adduser: `/usr/sbin/useradd -d /home/printer_username -g printer_username -s /bin/bash -u 1006 printer_username' returned error code 1. Exiting. |
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| 02:17.32 | \amethyst | obnauticus: and .pwd.lock is still the only lock file there? |
| 02:17.40 | obnauticus | yes |
| 02:17.47 | \amethyst | obnauticus: and fuser still reports no uses of that file? |
| 02:17.51 | obnauticus | yup |
| 02:18.15 | \amethyst | obnauticus: try strace -o strace.dump /usr/sbin/useradd -d /home/printer_username -g printer_username -s /bin/bash -u 1006 printer_username |
| 02:18.28 | \amethyst | obnauticus: then pastebin the strace.dump that it creates |
| 02:18.39 | \amethyst | that way we can see what exactly it's doing to check for the lock |
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| 02:18.48 | Tramp | obnauticus: for fun (and if you have lsof) you can try "lsof +D /etc" to see if this gives you some hint |
| 02:19.19 | obnauticus | what's the package that automatically pastebins your stuff with a command |
| 02:19.22 | obnauticus | to rafb.net/paste |
| 02:19.28 | obnauticus | and tralala that doesn't show anything useful. |
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| 02:19.37 | obnauticus | Tramp * |
| 02:20.46 | obnauticus | http://pastebin.ca/921509 |
| 02:20.50 | \amethyst | !pastebin pipe |
| 02:20.51 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. |
| 02:21.15 | \amethyst | obnauticus: err, that got cut off early |
| 02:21.22 | obnauticus | there's nothign else in the trace |
| 02:21.26 | obnauticus | or output file |
| 02:21.30 | \amethyst | obnauticus: it ends at the open ? |
| 02:21.34 | obnauticus | yes |
| 02:21.37 | \amethyst | ... |
| 02:21.40 | obnauticus | im not kidding |
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| 02:21.50 | obnauticus | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2022 2008-02-27 18:17 strace.dump |
| 02:22.04 | obnauticus | maybe my swapfs is messed up |
| 02:22.53 | obnauticus | im going to reboot it... |
| 02:22.57 | \amethyst | yeah, try that |
| 02:23.17 | \amethyst | hm... any chance you got rooted recently? |
| 02:24.10 | obnauticus | no |
| 02:24.20 | obnauticus | this one is local access only |
| 02:24.26 | obnauticus | the only way for this one to get rooted is for my other ones to get rooted |
| 02:24.29 | obnauticus | actually 2 other machines |
| 02:24.29 | obnauticus | lol |
| 02:24.39 | anirban | obnauticus iwconfig do not help me much |
| 02:24.45 | obnauticus | anirban how so |
| 02:24.51 | obnauticus | you asked how to configure wifi, i provided sauce. |
| 02:25.11 | anirban | I want to make the configuration such that it connects to wifi when I start my laptop |
| 02:25.12 | obnauticus | and if i did get rooted i would thank this guy, he has to be good. |
| 02:25.20 | anirban | previosly I was able to do that |
| 02:25.45 | anirban | when I was not using the encryption |
| 02:26.09 | \amethyst | obnauticus: it's just really strange that strace stopped as soon as the libc shared library was opened |
| 02:26.13 | \amethyst | even before it was mapped |
| 02:26.20 | obnauticus | ya i noticed that too |
| 02:27.17 | obnauticus | ahh |
| 02:27.20 | obnauticus | \amethyst works now |
| 02:27.22 | obnauticus | interesting |
| 02:27.33 | \amethyst | obnauticus: I'd run memtest86+ overnight |
| 02:29.50 | Firefishe | obnauticus: I feel like doing that to apt-get right now. |
| 02:29.59 | obnauticus | <3 |
| 02:30.00 | Firefishe | and synaptic *sigh* |
| 02:30.02 | CrashSys | Anyone in here ever used the SuperMicro 822 case? |
| 02:30.03 | obnauticus | calm down baby |
| 02:30.23 | obnauticus | now CrashSys but it looks verrry niice |
| 02:30.30 | Firefishe | not I CrashSys..I'm a laptop person |
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| 02:30.50 | obnauticus | I got the cheapest 4U cases I could find |
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| 02:31.46 | CrashSys | Trying to figure out if the motherboard plate in the back is part of the case or if I can replace it... to use a non-supermicro motherboard |
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| 02:32.00 | obnauticus | even if you can't you could probably do it ghetto style |
| 02:32.06 | obnauticus | that's what i did a couple days ago with my switch |
| 02:32.18 | CrashSys | Naaa... not for personal use... |
| 02:32.25 | obnauticus | so |
| 02:32.30 | obnauticus | make it look good then lol |
| 02:32.40 | CrashSys | I just hate not having an AMD option in a file server... |
| 02:32.48 | obnauticus | xeons are fine |
| 02:32.51 | obnauticus | if you get the quad cores |
| 02:33.19 | obnauticus | I have an opteron 180 though CrashSys and it's nice. |
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| 02:33.42 | CrashSys | The I/O bandwidth on the AMD's is so much nicer when you have a coulple gig-E NIC's pushing data around some hard-drive's... |
| 02:34.22 | Firefishe | <--Using debian etch. I'm having this problem with an install with apt-get: http://pastebin.ca/921488 |
| 02:34.52 | dondelelcaro | the system architecture is far more critical in such an application than the actual cpu |
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| 02:35.47 | Seldaek | howdy, how can I check the memory usage of a process ? |
| 02:35.53 | acidfu_ | no thunderbird with the basic sources ? |
| 02:36.05 | CrashSys | dondelelcaro: Yes, which is why I like AMD when I need to move massive amount of data around the motherboard... |
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| 02:36.07 | dondelelcaro | Seldaek: look at the ps output or similar, but such questions aren't easy to answer. |
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| 02:36.26 | dondelelcaro | CrashSys: that's like saying you look for ford when you need a fast car. |
| 02:36.34 | kgoetz | lol |
| 02:36.43 | Seldaek | dondelelcaro: well ps aux | grep * returns me weird numbers.. I mean it doesn't seem real, or I don't understand them as I should |
| 02:36.55 | dondelelcaro | Seldaek: it's the latter; what are you actually trying to figure out? |
| 02:37.02 | Seldaek | ;) |
| 02:37.23 | \amethyst | Seldaek: which column are you looking at? |
| 02:37.26 | Seldaek | well I'm running a persistent php script and just wished to see how bad GC was |
| 02:37.41 | dondelelcaro | Seldaek: well, watch the memory usage for that process over time |
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| 02:37.57 | superlinux | hi all |
| 02:38.01 | \amethyst | Seldaek: RSS (resident set size) is probably what you're looking for---that's the amount of RAM it's using. VSZ is the amount of virtual address space it's using, but that counts things like mmapped files and shared libraries |
| 02:38.42 | superlinux | i have recorded videos about installing debian gnu/linux. ftp://debian-tutorials:975008@ftp.drivehq.com/wwwhome/videos/ |
| 02:38.52 | dondelelcaro | Seldaek: checking out /proc/<pid>/smaps if you actually want to know what's going on |
| 02:38.58 | CrashSys | dondelelcaro: Ford makes fast cars... but regardless, the hyper-transport and FSB design of AMD is better then the Intel FSB design... |
| 02:39.01 | Firefishe | <--Using debian etch. I'm having this problem with an install with apt-get: http://pastebin.ca/921488 |
| 02:39.46 | Seldaek | dondelelcaro, \amethyst: okay thanks I'll manage with all that I think |
| 02:39.54 | CrashSys | PCI-E gets me dedicated bandwidth back to the northbridge... so then it becomes an issue of how much other crap goes on in the northbridge... |
| 02:39.56 | dondelelcaro | CrashSys: right, but so does just about every manufacturer; you have to talk about the chipset, the north bridge, the south bridge, what interface to the cards, the drives, etc. |
| 02:40.14 | superlinux | please everyone your opinions |
| 02:40.19 | \amethyst | Firefishe: what is this 'writerscafe' package? |
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| 02:40.46 | dondelelcaro | (and even with all that said and done, benchmarks!) |
| 02:40.49 | CrashSys | AMD doesn't use the north-bridge for memory transactions, which means it's free for pushing bus bandwidth... operates at 400mhz instead of 333... |
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| 02:41.11 | Firefishe | \amethyst: Well, therein lies the rub. It's something left over from a failed install. Problem is, it apparently left some stuff behind. Writer's Cafe is a fiction writing program. |
| 02:42.05 | Firefishe | \amethyst: It's not part of the grip install at all, but still seems to be affecting the install process, like a leftover onion still left on the counter, 3 weeks old, and now you're making steak ;) |
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| 02:43.22 | Kiirani | Hello #debian :) |
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| 02:44.26 | dondelelcaro | CrashSys: uh... I thought the FSBs were in the 1600MHz range now. |
| 02:44.34 | Kiirani | Frivolous want here, is there any version of apt-get that comes with uh, pretty colours? :P |
| 02:44.43 | \amethyst | Firefishe: and what if you remove the package? |
| 02:44.45 | tscott | Hey, can someone help me install VHCS on my Debian 4.0 server? |
| 02:44.56 | \amethyst | Kiirani: try aptitude's full-screen interface |
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| 02:46.06 | CrashSys | dondelelcaro: That's at the processor interface... the actual motherboard bus on an Intel 1333 is 333mhz x 4... On an AMD architecture it's 800 at the processor and the MB bus is 400mhz x 2... |
| 02:46.26 | dondelelcaro | CrashSys: well, intel makes 1600Mhz, so 400x4. |
| 02:46.34 | Firefishe | \amethyst: This happens: http://pastebin.ca/921524 |
| 02:46.43 | up_the_irons | i'm trying to process a latex document and it can't find aeguille.sty, does anyone know which package that'd be in? (it was generated with rst2latex.py) |
| 02:46.54 | dondelelcaro | (the Seaburg chipset supports it) |
| 02:46.55 | CrashSys | dondelelcaro: And the northbridge still handles all the memory transactions, so you have higher over-head... |
| 02:47.22 | superlinux | i have recorded videos about installing debian gnu/linux. ftp://debian-tutorials:975008@ftp.drivehq.com/wwwhome/videos/ |
| 02:47.27 | \amethyst | Firefishe: okay, edit the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/writerscafe.list find the blank line and remove it |
| 02:47.32 | CrashSys | You can see the memory/bus bottle necks on tomshardware.com if you look through the MB/CPU reviews... |
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| 02:47.35 | \amethyst | Firefishe: then try removing the package |
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| 02:47.52 | \amethyst | Firefishe: and write a nasty letter to whoever provided that package :) |
| 02:48.11 | Firefishe | \amethyst: gotcha. and ditto on the nasty letter ;) heh <eg> |
| 02:48.22 | Hiryu | My KDE desktop is off center in Debian testing (twm and windowmaker are fine), anyone else having this problem? |
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| 02:48.54 | Kiirani | \amethyst - I don't enjoy using an interface like that, I was just hoping for something other than a stream of white text when I use apt-get. |
| 02:49.26 | Kiirani | \amethyst - I'm used to emerge, you see. The colours make it incredibly readable. |
| 02:49.29 | Hiryu | seems to be related to my dual display setup but other window managers aren't affected. KDE was fine until today so looks like from a recent update :( |
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| 02:51.17 | up_the_irons | ah, it's in texlive-lang-french |
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| 02:51.30 | CrashSys | dondelelcaro: Here's two links, look at the SiSoft Sandra memory benchmarks... http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/19/toms_socket_am2_motherboard_summer_slam/page11.html http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/25/x48_motherboard_comparison/page20.html#synthetics |
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| 02:52.49 | CrashSys | The AM2 boards based on an old Nvidia 590 chipset outperform the new X48 chipset's from intel... |
| 02:53.07 | mop | i installed wlan card and when i write "iwconfig wlan0" i get > " wlan0 No such device " what should i do to enable wlan0 anyone help ? |
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| 02:53.47 | ciphernaut | info multiarch |
| 02:53.59 | ciphernaut | !multiarch |
| 02:53.59 | dpkg | somebody said multiarch was http://wiki.debian.org/multiarch and will allow Debian many improvements like a better support for systems that can run multiple binary targets, like i386 on amd64,i386 on ia64. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/05/msg00290.html |
| 02:54.05 | Firefishe | \amethyst: Success!!! :-))) And also, thanks for teaching me something new about debian gnu/linux. Now I can look for that error if I get something similar in the future. |
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| 02:55.49 | \amethyst | Firefishe: wow, I just took a look at that package... it's... really bad |
| 02:55.58 | CrashSys | dondelelcaro: But there's ways to fix that on intel, such as dedicated memory controllers to offload the bus... but those are exspensive mobo's! |
| 02:56.12 | \amethyst | Firefishe: in addition to the problem you found, it puts everything into /usr/share/writerscafe |
| 02:56.15 | \amethyst | Firefishe: even the binaries! |
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| 02:56.21 | Alt-Ox | how can I figure out the x11 version i'm using? (sorry for the stupid question) |
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| 02:56.51 | dondelelcaro | CrashSys: well, yes... those are the motherboards that I'm talking about... |
| 02:57.01 | Firefishe | \amethyst: Thta's just not good practice. It's a great piece of software, but it's definitely not working with standards. |
| 02:57.20 | Firefishe | I ended up having to install a former version out of a tarball. |
| 02:57.51 | Firefishe | \amethyst: Which *does* ask if you want global user access or just for the local user. That's all right. |
| 02:58.27 | Firefishe | \amethyst: Anyway, I'd better let them know about this. Are there any more glaring problems? |
| 02:59.13 | \amethyst | Firefishe: I stopped looking after that :) |
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| 02:59.29 | obnauticus | Is anyone here good with samba and cups integration? |
| 02:59.56 | Firefishe | \amethyst: Just as a matter of curiosity, what would prompt someone to write software like that, in that manner, out of standards? A certain type of development environment experience? |
| 03:00.05 | Firefishe | \ |
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| 03:00.38 | Firefishe | \amethyst: Also, what were you using to look at the package? I've never really done that, and I'd like to learn something new about .deb's. |
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| 03:01.23 | \amethyst | Firefishe: man dpkg-deb |
| 03:01.27 | dondelelcaro | CrashSys: but also, you have to remember that you're talking about IO, so the north bridge is still more than fast enough to saturate any pci express cards that you're going to stick in the thing |
| 03:01.53 | dondelelcaro | but anyway, probably more on topic for #hardware |
| 03:01.55 | Firefishe | \amethyst: gotcha...and thanks again, it's nice to have my grip back, and that nasty error gone. |
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| 03:03.51 | CrashSys | dondelelcaro: Sure... just depends on what you need your server to do... |
| 03:04.04 | \amethyst | Firefishe: (actually, I extracted by hand with ar x writerscafe_blah.deb then untarred the control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz files, but dpkg-deb is the preferred interface for doing that |
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| 03:04.43 | eldowan | I know this isn't debian related, but I'm not sure where I'd start to look. I'm trying to find a web browser that allows for all the values in use to be seen ( GET POST etc) and edit them en route. I'm developing some sites now, and would like to check my sites against this. Anyone know of anythign? |
| 03:05.14 | Firefishe | \amethyst: Kewlies. I'll read the manual page, figure something out, study it up a bit, rtfm some more, and *probably* ;) eek something out by the end of the week. A good study. |
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| 03:06.35 | ciphernaut | is debian multiarch mia ? |
| 03:07.13 | dondelelcaro | CrashSys: yeah, that's why most non-application specific bechmarks are kind of useless |
| 03:07.43 | CrashSys | dondelelcaro: Agreed... |
| 03:08.35 | CrashSys | I'm more interested in how two PCI-E 8-port SAS cards with full raid-5 array's and 3 gig-E cards will react when everything is churning full-blast... |
| 03:08.48 | CrashSys | Not really a benchmark i've found to tell me that yet... |
| 03:09.37 | CrashSys | Also been thinking about a 10-Gig NIC lately too... one NAS to rule them all!!! :) |
| 03:09.46 | CrashSys | or I guess it's a SAN at that point... |
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| 03:10.10 | CrashSys | damn databases |
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| 03:13.15 | dondelelcaro | CrashSys: pretty mcuh the only way to tell is to do the benchmark; any good system integrator will have systems that can be configured that you can test on |
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| 03:16.42 | Zaerath | Whenever I SSH into my machine it tells me "Connection refused" despite it being connected to my network, and locally it won't let me do any BASH commands, it tells me "TERM environment variable not set." Solutions? :/ |
| 03:18.50 | grendal_prime | i like the kde graphical greeter. the one that allows you to assign jpgs to users..so my kids can just click on there picture to load up there desktop |
| 03:19.00 | Nihilist | Zaerath: you try setting a term environment variable? |
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| 03:19.20 | grendal_prime | but i get this very simplistic login manager where i have to type in the user name and the password. |
| 03:19.40 | Zaerath | Nihilist: Yeah, if I do it tells me the same thing. If I use SET TERM=whatever, it'll tell me set is not a command, but by itself set will list variables. |
| 03:20.31 | Nihilist | Zaerath: export TERM=vt100 ? |
| 03:20.53 | Zaerath | Nihilist: I will try that now. |
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| 03:22.07 | Zaerath | Nihilist: That fixed the TERM issue, but if I try and run 'top' it'll tell me it cannot load the shared library for ncurses4. |
| 03:22.22 | Zaerath | If it helps any, I recently updated the machine (2 days ago). |
| 03:22.38 | Nihilist | sounds like your update broke some stuff |
| 03:22.49 | Zaerath | It does, but I don't really know how to fix it. |
| 03:23.15 | Nihilist | Zaerath: given the scope of the problem, you might in the long run save time if you backup your files and reinstall |
| 03:23.19 | Zaerath | It's a server machine, too, and all of its functions (MySQL, PHP, Apache2) still work, just not SSH or things such as top. |
| 03:23.24 | Nihilist | ah |
| 03:23.38 | Nihilist | does ps aux show ssh running? |
| 03:23.43 | Zaerath | Really strange behavior. |
| 03:23.43 | Nihilist | sshd* |
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| 03:24.30 | Zaerath | Nihilist: Yes it does. |
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| 03:24.45 | Zaerath | Nihilist: And I tried restarting ssh with /etc/init.d/ssh restart and rebooting the machine. |
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| 03:25.31 | Nihilist | can you ssh to the system from your newly fixed bash terminal? |
| 03:25.34 | Nihilist | ssh localhost |
| 03:26.11 | Zaerath | Nihilist: No it connection refuses me there as well. |
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| 03:27.54 | Zaerath | This is over the same network too, so ports are not an issue. |
| 03:28.02 | Zaerath | Unless iptables is blocking it, which it should not be. |
| 03:28.38 | \amethyst | Zaerath: do you have anything in /etc/hosts.allow ? |
| 03:29.24 | \amethyst | Firefishe: silly, they're made of ether :) |
| 03:29.38 | Zaerath | \amethyst: It only has the comments, nothing passed through it. |
| 03:29.43 | Firefishe | \amethyst: *bonk* But of course! |
| 03:29.51 | Firefishe | :-) hee |
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| 03:30.14 | \amethyst | Zaerath: try adding lines sshd : ALL as well as ALL : localhost and ALL : your.host.name |
| 03:30.30 | \amethyst | Zaerath: (assuming you want to allow ssh from anywhere, that is) |
| 03:30.33 | \amethyst | 7 |
| 03:30.37 | Zaerath | \amethyst: I'll try it but I never had to add anything to make it work before. |
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| 03:30.44 | Seldaek | Isn't there a simple timer command to do like "timer 60 `echo foo`" ? |
| 03:31.16 | \amethyst | Zaerath: oh wait, you probably have an empty hosts.deny too, never mind |
| 03:31.26 | eldowan | I know this isn't debian related, but I'm not sure where I'd start to look. I'm trying to find a web browser that allows for all the values in use to be seen ( GET POST etc) and edit them en route to the destination. |
| 03:31.30 | \amethyst | Zaerath: I'd check the iptables... can you pastebin your iptables -L ? |
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| 03:31.55 | Zaerath | \amethyst: I can try, is there a pastebin CLI tool because I can't ssh in? |
| 03:32.11 | \amethyst | !pastebin pipe |
| 03:32.12 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. |
| 03:32.21 | Zaerath | Ty. |
| 03:32.23 | Nihilist | Seldaek: sleep ? |
| 03:32.37 | Zaerath | I also tried the hosts.allow, no luck. |
| 03:32.50 | Nihilist | Zaerath: If you can't connect from the local system i'd question if the daemon is starting up right |
| 03:33.01 | Seldaek | Nihilist: within a loop then I guess ? |
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| 03:33.10 | Zaerath | Nihilist: I'm unsure, the daemon is up. |
| 03:33.13 | Nihilist | maybe try stopping it and run it manually sshd -vv to see the output |
| 03:33.17 | Tramp | Zaerath: what gives "lsof -nitcp:22" |
| 03:33.25 | \amethyst | Seldaek: what do you want to do, exactly? |
| 03:33.28 | Nihilist | Seldaek: Without knowing the context i dunno? |
| 03:33.31 | \amethyst | Seldaek: run a command every 60 seconds? |
| 03:33.36 | Nihilist | Seldaek: sleep 60 ; echo foo |
| 03:33.40 | Seldaek | yup |
| 03:33.48 | Seldaek | (to \amethyst ) |
| 03:33.50 | Nihilist | Seldaek: put it in a cron task? |
| 03:33.56 | \amethyst | Seldaek: watch -n 60 mycommand |
| 03:34.08 | Nihilist | that would work too |
| 03:34.10 | Seldaek | well I want the easy/fast thing Nihilist |
| 03:34.18 | \amethyst | Seldaek: however, if the command is complicated it's best to put it in a script because watch does funny things with quotnig |
| 03:34.34 | Seldaek | okay thanks |
| 03:34.37 | Seldaek | I'll try that |
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| 03:35.02 | Zaerath | Tramp: Nothing in lsof -nitcp:22, returns nothing. |
| 03:35.07 | \amethyst | Zaerath: while you're at it, it might be worthwhile to pastebin your /etc/ssh/sshd_config too |
| 03:35.21 | Tramp | Zaerath: did you change the port? |
| 03:35.23 | Zaerath | \amethyst: Iptables return nothing. I have a copy of my sshd_config. |
| 03:35.27 | Nihilist | hmm trying to setup a serial console to a system i'm trying to install.. so far i finally got output but it's not readable :( |
| 03:35.28 | Zaerath | Tramp: Nope. |
| 03:35.30 | Nihilist | .Q.Nb@aeuqNb u.AAA!iAoN-.AAA uN_AAKXe.AA.Xe.AAKXe.ANBaeAAu1/4A.A.YAA.A.YAAKXe.u |
| 03:35.48 | Tramp | Zaerath: well, it's not listening. How did you verify that it actually runs? |
| 03:35.52 | Nihilist | Zaerath: try starting sshd manually with /usr/sbin/sshd -v see if there's output? |
| 03:36.06 | Zaerath | Tramp: It shows up with aux or whatever he had me run earlier. |
| 03:36.10 | Zaerath | Nihilist: I'll try that now. |
| 03:37.24 | Zaerath | Nihilist: There is output. |
| 03:37.33 | Zaerath | Nihilist: Displays version followed by help file. |
| 03:37.42 | Nihilist | doh, must be the wrong flag |
| 03:37.54 | Zaerath | Nihilist: I'll try and start it from sbin.... |
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| 03:38.25 | Nihilist | -d |
| 03:38.29 | Nihilist | it should be -d not -v |
| 03:38.33 | Nihilist | -v is the client duh |
| 03:38.38 | Seldaek | \amethyst: sorry but watch -n 60 tmp.sh says tmp.sh command not found |
| 03:39.44 | Nihilist | Seldaek: ./tmp.sh |
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| 03:40.23 | Zaerath | \amethyst: I managed to fix top by reinstall libncurses4, however, sshd is still broken. |
| 03:40.26 | Seldaek | Nihilist: same.. well if I do that it executes it right away, and with `./tmp.sh` I get the error again |
| 03:40.56 | Seldaek | oh no |
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| 03:42.09 | Zaerath | *sigh* Sometimes I am so tempted to run Ubuntu Server Edition, Debian's support is dying. :/ This IRC channel is the only Debian support I know of now. |
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| 03:42.26 | AzMoo | Seldaek: watch -n 60 '/bin/sh tmp.sh' ? |
| 03:42.38 | Zaerath | Anyone else have suggestions on SSH connections being refused? |
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| 03:43.29 | Nihilist | Zaerath: you try runninig it with -d ? |
| 03:43.35 | Zaerath | Nihilist: About to. |
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| 03:44.45 | Malf | Zaerath: Connection refused as in you get some sort of reponse from sshd refusing your connection or? |
| 03:45.14 | Zaerath | Nihilist: Nothing, just remains blank on trying to start. No output from ssh. |
| 03:45.27 | Malf | oh |
| 03:45.34 | Zaerath | Malf: Yeah, it tells me ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused |
| 03:45.56 | \amethyst | IIRC, sshd is running but nothing is listening on port 22 ? |
| 03:45.57 | Zaerath | When I try and connect, but trying to start the daemon yields no output, for some reason. |
| 03:46.11 | Zaerath | The config file is set to listen on port 22. |
| 03:46.17 | Nihilist | Zaerath: thats odd, can you reinstall the package for ssh maybe? |
| 03:46.26 | Nihilist | you should get output |
| 03:46.28 | Zaerath | Do a remove, then an install? |
| 03:46.30 | Zaerath | I'll try. |
| 03:46.31 | AzMoo | You're not trying to run it through inetd as well, are you? |
| 03:46.34 | Nihilist | # /usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 8080 |
| 03:46.34 | Nihilist | debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_3.9p1 |
| 03:46.34 | Nihilist | debug1: private host key: #0 type 0 RSA1 |
| 03:46.34 | Nihilist | debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA |
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| 03:46.37 | Zaerath | No I'm not. |
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| 03:46.49 | Nihilist | *cough* |
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| 03:48.33 | Zaerath | Nihilist: Wow, your command fixed it. I guess it needed to regen the keys. |
| 03:48.52 | Zaerath | Thanks for all the help. |
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| 03:49.03 | k-man_ | can apt-get work through http proxies? |
| 03:49.07 | Nihilist | Err all my command did was start it with debug mode |
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| 03:49.16 | Nihilist | so.. I don't know how that could have fixed it |
| 03:49.19 | Nihilist | but.. okay whatever |
| 03:49.24 | sadas | I want to install openoffice.org-java-common but apt won't do it without installing gcj (even though I've installed Sun's java manually). How do I fool apt into thinking java is already installed? |
| 03:49.32 | \amethyst | Zaerath: wait, so that means it wasn't being started before |
| 03:49.41 | \amethyst | Zaerath: how did you start up sshd previously? |
| 03:50.37 | \amethyst | sadas: install the sun java packaeg |
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| 03:51.23 | sadas | ...oh, I didn't know debian had them now |
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| 03:51.49 | Gm4n | sadas, I think you have to add non-free to your package repositories before it'll work |
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| 03:52.21 | sadas | cool, I'll install it now (: |
| 03:52.23 | Zaerath | \amethyst: I just had it start with the machine. During our testing I was doing /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 03:52.25 | \amethyst | sadas: sun-java5-bin is in etch non-free, and sun-java6-bin in etch backports and lenny (also non-free) |
| 03:53.20 | \amethyst | Zaerath: so it sounds like something was not working with the init scripts... maybe running sh -x /etc/init.d/ssh start (while ssh isn't running) would give you more info about what's happening |
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| 03:54.00 | Zaerath | Alright I'll have to try that. Thanks. |
| 03:54.22 | Zaerath | I don't know why my init scrips are acting up, but it seems to be just that one. Apache, mysqld, etc, started up fine. |
| 03:54.52 | \amethyst | err, sorry, I meant with that particular init script |
| 03:54.58 | Zaerath | Yeah that is strange... |
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| 03:56.06 | Jester45 | does a high i/owait % mean i have a slow drive? |
| 03:57.03 | \amethyst | Jester45: it means you're doing lots of I/O |
| 03:57.16 | AzMoo | Would it braek anything if I changed my python symlink to python2.5 ? |
| 03:57.24 | AzMoo | s/braek/break/ |
| 03:58.04 | Jester45 | \amethyst, would a faster drive/raid help then |
| 03:58.53 | \amethyst | Jester45: probably, if the I/O in question is disk I/O and not (say) network |
| 03:59.07 | Jester45 | any way to tell? |
| 03:59.20 | Jester45 | i dont think my networking is maxed out |
| 03:59.28 | \amethyst | Jester45: I assume you're using iostat to see the %iowait |
| 03:59.30 | USN1520 | disk manager says 1.42 GB of swap partition is completely full, should it be that way? |
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| 03:59.49 | \amethyst | Jester45: try looking at the Blk_read/s and Blk_wrtn/s fields in the output of iowait |
| 04:00.01 | Jester45 | iowait |
| 04:00.02 | Jester45 | oops |
| 04:00.05 | \amethyst | USN1520: disk manager? |
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| 04:00.19 | \amethyst | Jester45: err, sorry, in the output of iostat, not iowait |
| 04:00.29 | Jester45 | just figured that out |
| 04:00.40 | USN1520 | desktop > Administration > Disks...I am a windows convert |
| 04:01.06 | Jester45 | USN1520, its mostlikly all cache |
| 04:01.34 | \amethyst | USN1520: I'm not familiar with the program, so I don't know what it's reporting |
| 04:01.44 | Jester45 | i got 51.81 % |
| 04:01.47 | \amethyst | USN1520: if you open a terminal and run 'free', what does the last line say? |
| 04:01.57 | USN1520 | Jester45, does it read completely full because the user cannot write to it or modify it? |
| 04:02.25 | USN1520 | \amethyst, thank you anyway it is disk utility as best I can tell |
| 04:02.46 | \amethyst | USN1520: yeah, it might just be saying that the partition is full (that is, that the entire partition is being used for swap) |
| 04:02.55 | USN1520 | Swap: 1485972 0 1485972 |
| 04:03.11 | Jester45 | your not using any swap |
| 04:03.12 | \amethyst | USN1520: okay, so your swap is actually completely unusedd :) |
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| 04:03.31 | Jester45 | hehe Swap: 4225052 92 4224960 |
| 04:03.34 | \amethyst | USN1520: and that program is just talking about how the disk partitions are allocated |
| 04:04.01 | USN1520 | right, it just shows full in the bar meter because I can't use swap for anything but swap, thanks |
| 04:04.09 | anirban | Hi |
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| 04:04.38 | anirban | I am not getting the ip from my wifi router |
| 04:04.39 | Jester45 | hi |
| 04:05.04 | anirban | I am getting Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 |
| 04:05.17 | USN1520 | any encryption |
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| 04:05.26 | mateusz | Hi\ |
| 04:05.30 | \amethyst | damn, audacious leaks like a drunken sieve |
| 04:05.53 | USN1520 | anirban, any encryption |
| 04:05.56 | mateusz | When there will be normal firefox (not so outdated "free" buggy clone) ? |
| 04:05.56 | anirban | router is using Security Mode=WEP128-bit |
| 04:06.03 | mateusz | for debian |
| 04:06.11 | mateusz | how about new firefox3 ? |
| 04:06.12 | Jester45 | \amethyst, http://pastebin.com/m11ede72c is ostat output |
| 04:06.14 | USN1520 | did you configure WEP in the terminal |
| 04:06.18 | mateusz | Any packages for debian ? |
| 04:06.20 | \amethyst | mateusz: "buggy"? |
| 04:06.32 | USN1520 | firefox3 is very buggy |
| 04:06.57 | Gm4n | mateusz, I think it's called "iceweasel" on debian, anyway |
| 04:06.57 | \amethyst | mateusz: there will not be a program named "firefox" in Debian until the Mozilla Foundation changes their trademark policy |
| 04:07.20 | mateusz | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.27 | USN1520 | \amethyst, I think we knew what he meant |
| 04:07.28 | \amethyst | unless someone wants to put it in non-free :) |
| 04:07.39 | USN1520 | you must be a purist :O) |
| 04:07.44 | \amethyst | is firefox 3 even out yet? |
| 04:07.48 | mateusz | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.59 | Gm4n | \amethyst: is there a good page where I can read about the licensing conflict that causes that (so I can understand) |
| 04:08.07 | USN1520 | anirban, where did you go? |
| 04:08.07 | mateusz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:08.13 | \amethyst | Gm4n: there's a wikipedia article on it |
| 04:08.31 | \amethyst | mateusz: I was under the impression that they still used firefox 2 |
| 04:08.58 | \amethyst | Gm4n: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel |
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| 04:09.03 | o7andrew | do you have the wikip.. page? |
| 04:09.07 | Jester45 | they dont suppy ff3 in the main repo yet |
| 04:09.12 | \amethyst | Gm4n: which redirects to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian |
| 04:09.13 | o7andrew | oh nice, mind-reader |
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| 04:09.46 | Jester45 | there are .debs for it and you can compile it your self, gentoo offers it |
| 04:09.55 | Firefishe | bye all |
| 04:10.00 | USN1520 | peace |
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| 04:11.25 | mateusz | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.44 | USN1520 | \amethyst, your thoughts on debian for i586 and up? |
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| 04:13.42 | simonrvn | Jester45: it's still beta... and they won't include ff anyway |
| 04:14.20 | AzMoo | Would it break anything if I changed my python symlink to python2.5 ? |
| 04:14.23 | USN1520 | mateusz, agree splintering only weakens the fight against that other OS |
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| 04:14.44 | Jester45 | AzMoo, whats it symlinked to right now |
| 04:14.53 | AzMoo | Jester45: python2.4 |
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| 04:15.17 | Jester45 | what do you need 2.5 for |
| 04:15.35 | yyeago | allo. I can't really get a useful response in either the #ubuntu or ##linux rooms about something. I know more knowledgable people hang out here. Could I trouble this room for an OT question? |
| 04:15.50 | ttrocal | Hello, could anyone help me resolve a missing "shared object file" bug with saods9 in testing? The bug is described here: https://launchpad.net/bugs/187111 |
| 04:15.59 | AzMoo | Jester45: Django, iPython, several language features. |
| 04:16.04 | USN1520 | yyeago, as if they could stop you |
| 04:16.05 | Ryan52 | yyeago: what distro are you using? |
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| 04:16.14 | simonrvn | yyeago: no |
| 04:16.17 | Ryan52 | yyeago: ubuntu or debian? |
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| 04:16.32 | Ryan52 | whats ot stand for? |
| 04:16.37 | simonrvn | Ryan52: guess |
| 04:16.37 | USN1520 | off topic |
| 04:16.37 | yyeago | distro is a ubuntu lab. I'm trying to interpret this preliminary doc on Fat clients. |
| 04:16.38 | Malf | off topic probably |
| 04:16.44 | Luria | on topic? |
| 04:16.44 | Ryan52 | ohh.... |
| 04:16.51 | simonrvn | !ot |
| 04:16.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ot is Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support), or return to the topic after a short while. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 04:16.51 | fsmunoz | Ryan52: Operating Thetan |
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| 04:17.01 | yyeago | haha fsmunoz |
| 04:17.26 | simonrvn | !not debian |
| 04:17.38 | yyeago | =) |
| 04:17.48 | USN1520 | you guys are funny |
| 04:17.56 | yyeago | So if anyone can msg me indicating where the client/server relationship is explained https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPFatClients, I would be much appreciative! |
| 04:17.59 | yyeago | *dips out* |
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| 04:18.43 | Luria | been meaning to play with ltsp |
| 04:18.55 | USN1520 | nighty-night all |
| 04:18.56 | Buginator | anyone know why the install gets stuck at Configuring ssl-cert ? |
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| 04:19.46 | fsmunoz | Sometimes #debian feels like the travelling agency with the good sellers and brochures where people go, and then after the advices book in flights in some low cost online joint :/ |
| 04:23.06 | streuner | hm |
| 04:24.33 | AzMoo | Luria: It's interesting. We have it set up to run internet kiosk's on a bunch of our sites. |
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| 04:28.41 | ttrocal | Any tips for forcing ds9 to use the moved library? I'm sure it's a simple fix, for someone who knows what they're doing. |
| 04:29.10 | BrianSteffens | Does anyone here use Compiz? Were you able to find some kind of control panel or settings app for it? |
| 04:29.47 | Nihilist | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:30.19 | Jester45 | compizconfig-settings-manager ? |
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| 04:31.02 | lkthomas | guys |
| 04:31.04 | BrianSteffens | Yes, do you have any idea how to install it? :p |
| 04:31.09 | lkthomas | does debian got php5-fastcgi package ? |
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| 04:31.16 | BrianSteffens | Or where it is.. or anything |
| 04:31.20 | Jester45 | BrianSteffens, apt-get isntall compizconfig-settings-manager |
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| 04:31.59 | BrianSteffens | Jester45: I don't have that in any repo and I can't find a debian repo with it |
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| 04:32.12 | Jester45 | o maybe its only in lenny |
| 04:32.35 | BrianSteffens | The lenny installer I tried today errored out >< i'll wait for another build of it lol |
| 04:32.56 | Jester45 | you could dist-upgrade |
| 04:33.07 | Buginator | lol, ok, that is nuts, a fix for the debian install is on the ubuntu forums. :S |
| 04:33.27 | wols_ | !tell BrianSteffens about nodm |
| 04:33.56 | wols_ | Buginator: why lenny? and why the installer of it? |
| 04:34.00 | BrianSteffens | Buginator: First the mother bathes her child, then the other way around :D |
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| 04:34.17 | Buginator | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4395804 Tells the story... |
| 04:34.45 | burner | i'm trying to install quesoglc.. it won't build :/ |
| 04:34.46 | burner | make[1]: *** [libGLC_la-context.lo] Error 1 |
| 04:34.49 | Buginator | and I can verify it works... just got past that blasted bug. heh |
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| 04:35.15 | wols_ | Buginator: tghat is NOT the error |
| 04:35.23 | Buginator | burner, which version of quesoGLC? .6.5 or .7.0 |
| 04:35.32 | Buginator | wols_, that was *MY* error. |
| 04:35.40 | burner | .7.0 |
| 04:35.46 | wols_ | Buginator: you are still wrong |
| 04:36.03 | wols_ | Buginator: always report the FIRST error |
| 04:36.05 | wols_ | and this wasn't it |
| 04:36.16 | Buginator | I don't think it is wrong if it fixes. And it does. |
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| 04:37.12 | Buginator | burner, I only have installed .6.5 without issue, but that was on ubuntu. |
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| 04:37.30 | burner | okay |
| 04:37.41 | burner | i'm in ubuntu.. joined the wrong channel i realize now :p |
| 04:37.59 | Buginator | what are you installing? warzone? ;) |
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| 04:39.22 | burner | Buginator, no..navit |
| 04:41.39 | wols_ | !tell vdrakov away |
| 04:41.41 | vdrakov | wols_, no estou aqui. (Auto-Away aps 20 minutos idle) HH 4.3 |
| 04:41.42 | wols_ | !tell vdrakov about away |
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| 04:42.00 | ttrocal | So, I've got an app that is expecting a certain library to be in a nonexistant directory. The library is installed, but somewhere else. Can anyone help me resolve this? |
| 04:42.15 | wols_ | make a symlink. what app? |
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| 04:42.44 | ttrocal | saods9. I actually tried making a symlink (I hope I did it correctly) and it returned a "Permission denied" error. |
| 04:42.51 | \amethyst | ttrocal: what library is it looking for, in what directory, and what directory is the library actually in? |
| 04:43.20 | ttrocal | \amethyst, It's all described here: https://launchpad.net/bugs/187111 |
| 04:43.35 | burner | Buginator, the .6.5 complained about fontconfig missing.. :P |
| 04:43.44 | burner | installed that one, and now .7.0 builds too :) |
| 04:43.46 | burner | thanks |
| 04:43.48 | wols_ | ttrocal: do it as root probably |
| 04:43.58 | Buginator | Oh.. forgot about that. Sorry I didn't mention it. |
| 04:44.09 | ttrocal | wols_, Make the symlink, you mean? I did - I tried doing it with konqueror as root. |
| 04:44.18 | BrianSteffens | Jester45: Ok I got it installed, do know what I'm supposed to run to start the tool? |
| 04:44.21 | \amethyst | ttrocal: and what version of saods9 do you have? |
| 04:44.57 | Jester45 | try typing compiz then tab 2 imes to get a list of commands that start with compiz |
| 04:45.05 | ttrocal | \amethyst, From etch, it's 4.0b7-1.4 |
| 04:45.29 | \amethyst | ttrocal: what version of tcllib? |
| 04:45.46 | BrianSteffens | compiz, compiz.real |
| 04:46.38 | ttrocal | \amethyst, Uh oh, that's not installed. dpkg didn't complain about it - should it be installed? |
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| 04:47.20 | \amethyst | ttrocal: erro, sorry, what version of libtk-img ? |
| 04:47.24 | ttrocal | \amethyst, Wait, I'm wrong, it is installed. 1.10-dfsg-2 |
| 04:47.50 | ttrocal | \amethyst, for libtm-img, 1.3-release-5 |
| 04:48.06 | \amethyst | ttrocal: those are from sid |
| 04:48.13 | \amethyst | ttrocal: is this a mixed-distribution system? |
| 04:49.12 | ttrocal | \amethyst, It's not intended to be. |
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| 04:49.34 | ttrocal | \amethyst, Are you sure? I think that's the testing version. |
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| 04:49.50 | \amethyst | ttrocal: testing and sid are at the same version of libtk-img right now |
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| 04:50.06 | \amethyst | ttrocal: wait, are you running testing? |
| 04:50.11 | ttrocal | Yes |
| 04:50.12 | Szeraax | hey all, is there any way to get grub to play nice with usb flash drives? I have a grub on the internal hard disk and i want to boot my fresh debian on a ext3 fs on a flashdrive, is there anyway to get grub to recognize it as (sd0,0)? |
| 04:50.26 | burner | hmm |
| 04:50.26 | burner | bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libILU.la: No such file or directory |
| 04:50.26 | burner | libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libILU.la' is not a valid libtool archive |
| 04:50.39 | wols_ | Szeraax: only if your BIOS regonizes it |
| 04:50.47 | \amethyst | ttrocal: then you can probably install the saods9 from sid |
| 04:50.53 | wols_ | *recognizes |
| 04:51.09 | ttrocal | \amethyst, You mean, even though I'm running testing, saods9 from Sid might work better? |
| 04:51.22 | wols_ | !ops please remove vdrakov for periodic away messages |
| 04:51.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: wols_ complains about: please remove vdrakov for periodic away messages |
| 04:51.23 | vdrakov | wols_, no estou aqui. (Auto-Away aps 20 minutos idle) HH 4.3 |
| 04:51.24 | vdrakov | dpkg, no estou aqui. (Auto-Away aps 20 minutos idle) HH 4.3 |
| 04:51.25 | \amethyst | ttrocal: better than the one from etch, yes |
| 04:51.27 | Szeraax | wols_: so there is possible program that could load the usb driver and create a layer between the actual hardware and grub to have a virtual hard dish being the drive either? |
| 04:51.32 | ttrocal | \amethyst, Ok, I'll give it a try. |
| 04:51.35 | wols_ | Szeraax: no |
| 04:51.38 | Szeraax | so there is no* |
| 04:51.47 | \amethyst | ttrocal: since the etch version is not compatible with the new versions of the tcl/tk libraries it seems |
| 04:51.53 | Szeraax | dang, ok. and will grub 2 be able to do anything with usb? |
| 04:52.10 | wols_ | Szeraax: sure. if your BIOS supports it |
| 04:52.14 | wols_ | like it already does |
| 04:52.14 | \amethyst | !why is saods9 not in testing |
| 04:52.15 | dpkg | saods9 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=saods9 |
| 04:52.24 | peterS | vdrakov: turn off your auto-away script, please |
| 04:52.25 | Szeraax | except on my old computer... |
| 04:52.33 | vdrakov | peterS, no estou aqui. (Auto-Away aps 20 minutos idle) HH 4.3 |
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| 04:52.41 | \amethyst | ttrocal: that says that the only reason it's not in testing is that it hasn't built on hppa or sparc yet |
| 04:53.02 | Szeraax | ok, thanks wols_ |
| 04:53.11 | peterS | vdrakov: you can /msg me after you have turned off your Auto-Away script |
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| 04:53.20 | \amethyst | haha, with an internal compiler error at that! |
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| 04:53.25 | wols_ | thank you |
| 04:53.52 | ttrocal | \amethyst, Progress! No more libtkimg errors, but a bunch of new ones :/ |
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| 04:54.48 | ttrocal | \amethyst, http://pastebin.ca/921641 |
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| 04:55.40 | \amethyst | ttrocal: what version of tcl8.4 do you have? |
| 04:55.58 | lkthomas | guys, for awstats, does it count www.domain.com with domain.com traffic ? |
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| 04:56.12 | ttrocal | \amethyst, 8.4.18-2 |
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| 04:58.50 | Sazpaimon | Alright, #dns is dead, maybe you guys can give me a hand. I need some tool to query a nameserver NOT currently registered under any domain name |
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| 04:59.15 | Sazpaimon | anyone know of a tool? |
| 04:59.22 | Xenguy | Sazpaimon: what about dig ? |
| 04:59.26 | kgoetz | host? |
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| 04:59.42 | enouf | nmap? |
| 04:59.48 | Sazpaimon | query was a bad word, i should have said check, much like dnsstuff can do |
| 05:00.04 | Sazpaimon | and see if it's a valid nameserver or not |
| 05:00.05 | wols_ | Sazpaimon: that makes no sense |
| 05:00.13 | wols_ | nameservers don't need a domain name |
| 05:00.20 | Sazpaimon | wols_, alright, IP then |
| 05:00.33 | Sazpaimon | im trying to register one of my domains with it and godaddy is rejecting the nameservers |
| 05:00.40 | wols_ | send a query to it see if it responds |
| 05:01.04 | Sazpaimon | using what command? dig? |
| 05:01.05 | wols_ | Sazpaimon: you don't need to do what you say you want to for that |
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| 05:01.21 | wols_ | what you say you wanna do has nothing to do with your problem, at all |
| 05:01.36 | Sazpaimon | wols_, then what is my problem |
| 05:01.50 | wols_ | your first problem is not reporting the error |
| 05:02.04 | Sazpaimon | to godaddy? |
| 05:02.13 | wols_ | no to us right now |
| 05:02.17 | wols_ | later to godaddy maybe |
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| 05:02.27 | Sazpaimon | I didnt think it was relavent :P |
| 05:02.45 | Sazpaimon | i thought it was a misconfiguration with BIND on my end |
| 05:02.47 | wols_ | exact error messages ALWAYS are |
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| 05:02.56 | wols_ | you run your own BIND? |
| 05:03.06 | wols_ | public BIND? |
| 05:03.18 | Sazpaimon | no, i have bind9 installed on my machine |
| 05:03.31 | wols_ | what has this to do with anything of your problem? |
| 05:03.42 | Sazpaimon | most of the domains on my hosting machine use everydns, but I'd like a few of them to use my own dns server |
| 05:03.56 | wols_ | you are a fool |
| 05:04.19 | Sazpaimon | what? |
| 05:04.33 | wols_ | you are inable to parse the word "fool"? |
| 05:04.37 | wols_ | *unable |
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| 05:05.03 | Sazpaimon | no, I dont understand why you're calling me a fool |
| 05:05.13 | wols_ | cause you are one? |
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| 05:05.24 | Sazpaimon | all of the domains on my machine have proper zones set up |
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| 05:05.47 | wols_ | well since you are unable to do a proper error report: man dig |
| 05:05.50 | wols_ | hand |
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| 05:12.26 | bujin | hi |
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| 05:13.59 | bujin | i do an ifconfig and i have my eth0 my ath0 and eth0:avah what is the last one for? |
| 05:14.26 | enouf | avahi-daemon? |
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| 05:16.18 | ttrocal | \amethyst, Thanks for all your help. I'm about to get going, do you have any last suggestions? |
| 05:16.26 | o7andrew | whats that enouf? |
| 05:16.57 | enouf | o7andrew: erm, it's a mDNS thingy |
| 05:16.57 | bujin | enouf, whats avahi-daemon? |
| 05:17.05 | enouf | man avahi-saemon |
| 05:17.08 | enouf | man avahi-daemon |
| 05:17.11 | o7andrew | haha |
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| 05:17.20 | o7andrew | lolo |
| 05:17.44 | enouf | as root - netstat -tunap ; lsof | egrep 'ESTAB|LIST' |
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| 05:18.31 | enouf | install harden-doc pkg |
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| 05:25.04 | Hoso001 | Help somone... i can't get my install to work right |
| 05:25.31 | Hoso001 | I am using the cd install and i am at the select packages stage |
| 05:25.43 | Hoso001 | and it will mess up randomly on certain packages |
| 05:25.57 | Hoso001 | sometimes on the first few other times at 98% |
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| 05:26.06 | Hoso001 | md5 sum checks out, i burned a few copies |
| 05:26.09 | Hoso001 | still messing up |
| 05:29.06 | Hoso001 | anyone? |
| 05:29.23 | wols_ | which installer? |
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| 05:31.35 | RyanRyan52 | E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on tzdata |
| 05:31.43 | RyanRyan52 | when I try to dist-upgrade to lenny |
| 05:31.47 | RyanRyan52 | help? |
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| 05:32.29 | wols_ | !tell RyanRyan52 about bat |
| 05:33.20 | RyanRyan52 | sorry... |
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| 05:36.38 | RyanRyan52 | http://debian.pastebin.com/m5802cac9 |
| 05:37.30 | wols_ | install tzdata alone first? |
| 05:38.00 | RyanRyan52 | ohh... |
| 05:38.02 | RyanRyan52 | that worked |
| 05:38.04 | RyanRyan52 | thanks |
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| 05:42.24 | SexyKen | Nyle |
| 05:42.27 | SexyKen | Wake your ass up |
| 05:43.41 | AzMoo | Hey, does anybody know how to change the VNC password? |
| 05:44.56 | SexyKen | Yea somebody does, but what the fuck does VNC have to do with Debian? |
| 05:45.35 | AzMoo | SexyKen: Well, it's a debian installation that has VNC, and different distributions screw with things. |
| 05:45.37 | Xenguy | SexyKen: ummm, why wouldn't it? |
| 05:46.07 | SexyKen | Oh I see, so that means I should start asking about gimp here now? |
| 05:46.19 | SexyKen | Or perhaps ask about a CD-Rom drive - as long as I have a debian CD in it? |
| 05:46.20 | Xenguy | SexyKen: oh knock it off |
| 05:46.23 | AzMoo | SexyKen: If it's got configuration specific to debian, I would expect yes. |
| 05:46.23 | Xenguy | sheesh |
| 05:46.38 | SexyKen | Changing a fucking password for VNC is Debian specific? |
| 05:46.52 | AzMoo | It is if it doesn't work the way I would normally do it on BSD. |
| 05:46.56 | Xenguy | go piss in somebody else's cornflakes FFS |
| 05:47.11 | SexyKen | AzMoo: How do you do it in BSD? |
| 05:47.34 | Xenguy | .oO(but BSD here is *way* on topic! :P ) |
| 05:47.50 | AzMoo | SexyKen: I type in vncpasswd, it prompts me, and it's changed. I did it in debian and it's not changed. |
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| 05:50.37 | AzMoo | I noticed there's a file called /etc/vncpass (which is not standard), but I'm hesitant to point vncpasswd at it, because this is a (very) remote machine and I'm afraid I won't be able to get back into it. |
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| 05:51.09 | SexyKen | http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/man/vncpasswd.html |
| 05:53.10 | AzMoo | ffs man, I've read the man page. |
| 05:53.38 | SexyKen | Okay, -- |
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| 05:54.40 | enouf | Hoso001 grab a more recent copy |
| 05:55.20 | enouf | Hoso001 , but could be a RAM issue, fault RAM, reseat it atleast, and check all connections, cables |
| 05:55.22 | SexyKen | How does this look: vnc4passwd /etc/vncpass |
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| 05:59.32 | azote | hi all |
| 05:59.41 | SexyKen | Hey baby. |
| 05:59.43 | SexyKen | How you doin'? |
| 05:59.55 | AzMoo | SexyKen: That looks more like it. Where'd you find that info? |
| 06:00.27 | SexyKen | http://docs.xensource.com/XenServer/4.0.1/guest/guest.html - section 4.7.3 |
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| 06:02.52 | azote | im trying to mount a ntfs disk. Actually i do fdsik to change type to 7 (HPFS/NTFS), after i do mke2fs /dev/sdb4, mkntfs /dev/sdb4, and to finsh ntfsmount /dev/sdb4 /mnt/test. But when i mkdir i dont see dir in windows on hdd after reboot |
| 06:04.06 | AzMoo | SexyKen: Ahh, Xen specific, not debian specific. So you were originally right, it was technically irrelevant to #debian ;) Thanks. |
| 06:04.11 | azote | is the good command to create NTFS on linux ? |
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| 06:05.43 | streuner | azote: NFTS5? |
| 06:06.31 | SexyKen | So you are using Xen, eh? :-) |
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| 06:07.27 | azote | streuner what ?? yes im trying to mount NTFS partition |
| 06:07.52 | wols_ | why can't you create your NTFS under windows? |
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| 06:08.02 | AzMoo | SexyKen: Apparently so. I knew it was Virtualization, but I didn't know what type. |
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| 06:09.46 | douglas_h | !ping |
| 06:09.46 | dpkg | pong |
| 06:09.47 | ladybot | [Ping Reply for douglas_h]: 1 Second(s) |
| 06:10.18 | RyanRyan52 | ladybot: hi |
| 06:10.29 | RyanRyan52 | !ping |
| 06:10.29 | dpkg | pong |
| 06:10.35 | ladybot | [Ping Reply for RyanRyan52]: 4 Second(s) |
| 06:10.49 | RyanRyan52 | !hi |
| 06:10.49 | dpkg | hello, ryanryan52 |
| 06:11.38 | wols_ | RyanRyan52: stop abusing the bot |
| 06:12.10 | wols_ | ladybot: please leave. your bot is not allowed esepcially with ! triggers |
| 06:12.24 | douglas_h | sorry |
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| 06:12.51 | douglas_h | is the script |
| 06:13.02 | wols_ | then stopit |
| 06:13.13 | douglas_h | ok |
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| 06:14.43 | wols_ | douglas_h: is ladybot yours? |
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| 06:15.11 | douglas_h | yes its mine |
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| 06:25.10 | ftp3 | anyone have a recomendation for a raid card that will work well with debian x64? (i just need raid 1) |
| 06:26.53 | nevyn | ftp3: 3ware have good linux support |
| 06:27.42 | abchirk | Does anyone of you got an creative live webcam pro? |
| 06:28.06 | ftp3 | nevyn, ty |
| 06:28.07 | abchirk | I want to buy this and found a driver on a website, but want to go sure if it really works. :) |
| 06:28.37 | xsdg | ftp3: hardware for RAID-1? |
| 06:28.45 | xsdg | ftp3: why would you want to do that? |
| 06:29.01 | ftp3 | ouch, 3ware is expensive |
| 06:29.05 | ftp3 | xsdg, why not? |
| 06:29.14 | RyanRyan52 | ftp3: u can use linux software raid |
| 06:29.27 | ftp3 | xsdg, wouldnt their be less load, etc if I use hardware? |
| 06:29.34 | RyanRyan52 | ftp3: mdadm |
| 06:29.34 | xsdg | ftp3: if you do software RAID, you're not tied to a hardware vendor, and you can boot off the individual disks liek normal |
| 06:29.48 | xsdg | ftp3: not noticeably, no |
| 06:30.06 | xsdg | ftp3: especially since RAID-1 doesn't do any real computation (like RAID-5 does) |
| 06:30.34 | xsdg | ftp3: the big thing is that if something happens to your machine, you can just stick the drives in another machine and get rolling |
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| 06:30.47 | xsdg | ftp3: if something happens to your RAID card, you're SOL until you get another one |
| 06:31.13 | christefano | darn, opensoressoftware.com was just registered 8 days ago. :( |
| 06:31.39 | xsdg | ftp3: and if your RAID card has a weird bug, you're either stuck with it, or you have to recreate the filesystems with replacement hardware (assuming a different manufacturer) |
| 06:32.01 | ftp3 | in the debian install, i did not notice a "raid" |
| 06:32.03 | ftp3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:32.46 | xsdg | ftp3: I'm pretty sure I saw one when I was using the "expert" option on the etch installer. I would imagine the normal one allows you to do it as well (it's in the partitioning section) |
| 06:32.47 | BubbaT | Hey guys. I'm using etch. Is there any reason why I would still need gcc-2.9x installed? |
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| 06:33.02 | xsdg | BubbaT: 2.9? I'm pretty sure not |
| 06:33.10 | xsdg | (I presume you mean 2.95.2 or something like that) |
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| 06:33.39 | BubbaT | Both the 2.4, 2.6 kernels now compile under newer gcc's right? |
| 06:33.54 | xsdg | BubbaT: dunno about 2.4, but why would you want to use 2.4 still? |
| 06:34.09 | xsdg | BubbaT: 2.6 is working for me with gcc-4.3 |
| 06:34.17 | RyanRyan52 | BubbaT: if nothing depends on it, then no |
| 06:35.17 | xsdg | RyanRyan52: BubbaT is referring to odd kernel dependencies that used to exist on certain versions of compilers |
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| 06:35.41 | RyanRyan52 | I know...I typed before he said that |
| 06:36.26 | ^shark_ | hi guys i am getting this error >> Error: Catalog images directory is not writeable: |
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| 06:44.36 | Anoninon | Ah I can breath again. Debian is so lovely. |
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| 06:48.15 | Anoninon_ | Hrm... I just switched to from tty1 now I can't get back..Any suggestions ? |
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| 06:48.58 | Anoninon_ | I can only seem to get tty2, tty5 and tty6, but not tty2. |
| 06:49.14 | Anoninon_ | *not tty1, where my original irssi session is. |
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| 06:52.00 | Supaplex | Anoninon_: turn the monitor around? hehe. back where? |
| 06:52.07 | Supaplex | awww he quitored. |
| 06:52.13 | Anoninon | Wow that was embarassing lol. |
| 06:52.27 | Anoninon | I didnt know it was just alt+f1, I thought it was ctrl+alt+f1 |
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| 06:53.09 | Anoninon | So weird, I can get to tty2, tty5 and tty6 via ctrl+alt+F(#) but not the other ttys.. |
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| 06:57.18 | Anoninon | Does apt-get have some sort of "search" feature that's CLI friendly ? |
| 06:57.28 | Anoninon | I didn't see it in the man. |
| 06:57.52 | wols_ | aptitude |
| 06:58.04 | Anoninon | Thanks |
| 06:58.12 | wols_ | more is |
| 06:58.21 | wols_ | and less is part of the "standard" tasksel setting |
| 06:58.29 | Anoninon | excellent, thank you again. |
| 06:58.59 | ApOgEE- | hi all.. i got problem with my TS-ARM... i can't use my ttyAM2 (COM3) in this debian. any suggestion? |
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| 07:00.11 | Anoninon | Wow the choice between icewm and xfce is a no brainer when it comes to disk space. XFCE4 meta package is about 80mb bigger. |
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| 07:01.25 | Haris1 | Hello people |
| 07:01.28 | enouf | Anoninon: using ctrl with alt-fn shouldn't matter- youre keymaps must be funky |
| 07:01.30 | Haris1 | Can we make vlans using debian? |
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| 07:02.02 | enouf | Anoninon: not to mention, it's [Left] ctrl-alt |
| 07:02.14 | enouf | (atleast here) |
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| 07:03.36 | enouf | you should only need ctrl added to drop from X to-> console |
| 07:06.39 | enouf | ApOgEE-: does grep serial /proc/ioports show 3 entries? |
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| 07:10.59 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:16.27 | ApOgEE- | enouf, root@ts7000:/# cat proc/ioports |
| 07:16.27 | ApOgEE- | e0010000-e001ffff : EP9312_Eth |
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| 07:17.14 | enouf | wow - you're missing like 25 lines |
| 07:17.42 | ApOgEE- | enouf, Device: 6h/6d Inode: 7 Links: 1 Device type: cc,12 |
| 07:17.54 | enouf | that looks like an iomem output too |
| 07:17.58 | enouf | not ioports |
| 07:18.05 | ApOgEE- | i see... |
| 07:18.18 | ApOgEE- | enouf, how can i fix it? |
| 07:18.45 | enouf | cc,12 seems wrong too |
| 07:18.46 | enouf | http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.18/Documentation/devices.txt#L2742 |
| 07:19.34 | enouf | [02:19:03] LadyBot is n=xgoogle@190.154.96.46 (LadyBot search Engine by #XGoogle) |
| 07:19.41 | enouf | nice |
| 07:22.24 | ApOgEE- | root@ts7000:/# grep serial /proc/iomem |
| 07:22.24 | ApOgEE- | 808c0000-808c003f : serial_amba |
| 07:22.24 | ApOgEE- | 808d0000-808d003f : serial_amba |
| 07:22.24 | ApOgEE- | 808e0000-808e003f : serial_amba |
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| 07:23.04 | ApOgEE- | sorry... |
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| 07:24.54 | jim | Hi, can you specify a name server and domain in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 07:25.29 | ApOgEE- | enouf, http://paste.debian.net/50078 |
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| 07:25.54 | Haris1 | WHERE! does debian! keep amavis' config!?!? |
| 07:26.19 | jim | sentence. did not. end there... |
| 07:26.34 | ApOgEE- | enouf, can you please point me on how to fix the problem? |
| 07:26.53 | jim | first determine the problem |
| 07:26.54 | enouf | ApOgEE-: i'd love to, if i knew |
| 07:27.05 | Haris1 | amavis is saving virus mails in 25+ GBs in a matter of hours |
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| 07:27.22 | Haris1 | How! do I stop it? |
| 07:27.31 | ApOgEE- | enouf, thank you, i'm still srugling to fix the problem |
| 07:27.42 | enouf | ApOgEE-: i never asked for iomem, are you sure what you posted earlier came from ioports? |
| 07:28.00 | enouf | help: go fuck yourself |
| 07:28.17 | ApOgEE- | enouf, yes.. it is from ioports |
| 07:28.28 | help | enouf, no estou aqui. (Auto-Away aps 20 minutos idle) HH 4.3 |
| 07:28.48 | ApOgEE- | enouf, is the iomem and ioports output switched? |
| 07:29.10 | enouf | ApOgEE-: then i know nothing about ARM, mine looks like this 03f8-03ff : serial |
| 07:30.05 | ApOgEE- | i managed to make the ttyAM0 and ttyAM1 working... but only this one more |
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| 07:30.28 | jim | help: !ops I have an autoaway message |
| 07:30.42 | enouf | help is n=vdrakov@189.27.98.207.adsl.gvt.net.br (drakov) <-- kick his ass |
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| 07:31.08 | jim | let him kick his own ass... he needs the stretch anyway |
| 07:31.41 | enouf | ApOgEE-: no idea really |
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| 07:31.53 | tralala | jim, you can configure the nameserver from interfaces if you install resolvconf. I'm not quite sure what you mean by domain. |
| 07:32.05 | enouf | ApOgEE-: your /dev/ Major and Minor are wrong too http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.18/Documentation/devices.txt#L2742 |
| 07:32.07 | jim | err, search |
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| 07:32.21 | jim | tralala: sorry about before btw |
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| 07:33.08 | tralala | jim, eh? |
| 07:33.19 | ApOgEE- | enouf, can u please explain, what will that mean? |
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| 07:34.25 | tralala | ApOgEE-, wt do u m33n? Y cn't u wr1t3 n0rmly? |
| 07:34.39 | jim | tralala: ok, so you're saying resolvconf is a package... will it add syntax to network/interfaces? |
| 07:34.42 | enouf | [02:19:03] LadyBot is n=xgoogle@190.154.96.46 <----somebody ban that piece of shit too |
| 07:34.48 | tralala | jim, yes |
| 07:35.01 | liable | spammer? |
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| 07:35.25 | enouf | yes |
| 07:35.28 | enouf | PM too |
| 07:35.37 | jim | ok, cool... that explains why the syntax was not in the interfaces man page |
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| 07:36.10 | jim | there are interesting looking women in las vegas... |
| 07:36.49 | genbuntu | Hi, My pc (on lan) starts having 'high ping' whenever another pc starts using the wireless connection (everything on home network). Does anyone know whats going on? |
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| 07:37.10 | andrboot | o |
| 07:37.18 | jim | e |
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| 07:38.44 | ApOgEE- | tralala, i'm having problem with my TS-ARM... enouf says, my dev major and minor is wrong i don't know what was wrong with it... |
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| 07:40.16 | jim | dondelelcaro, just so you know... help is back... |
| 07:40.40 | enouf | ApOgEE-: grep type < <(stat /dev/ttyAM[012]) says? Use a pastebin |
| 07:40.51 | liable | oddly his ip is the same.. |
| 07:41.05 | alvarezp | hello, is there a way for tcpdump -A to show ONLY the payload of the tcp/udp packet? |
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| 07:42.22 | ApOgEE- | enouf, http://paste.debian.net/50081 |
| 07:42.27 | enouf | [02:19:03] LadyBot is n=xgoogle@190.154.96.46 (LadyBot search Engine by #XGoogle) <== that POS Pm |
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| 07:42.59 | enouf | er PM'd me some crap about don't spam with some funk-assed unlegible chars |
| 07:43.11 | enouf | like the help b0z0 uses |
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| 07:44.00 | enouf | [02:18:31] -LadyBot- .No Spam enouf estas avisado una ma y te vas <== that. but with the rectangles removed ;-) |
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| 07:46.25 | br34k7 | hi all |
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| 07:47.14 | br34k7 | someone know how to change the if address of debian through php or someting cgi script ? |
| 07:47.29 | br34k7 | ip address :p |
| 07:47.31 | enouf | ApOgEE-: i have no idea what cc is there |
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| 07:47.53 | br34k7 | cc? whereis -b cc |
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| 07:49.34 | enouf | should be 204,16 through 204,31 |
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| 07:51.21 | ApOgEE- | enouf, do i have to change it? how? |
| 07:51.43 | enouf | ApOgEE-: well, i don;t see why if the 1st 2 work ;-) |
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| 07:52.06 | enouf | ApOgEE-: udev rules usually take care of all that |
| 07:52.15 | ApOgEE- | enouf, i don't even know what the cc is for |
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| 07:52.35 | enouf | me neither |
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| 07:53.12 | enouf | which release of Debian are you running? |
| 07:53.21 | ApOgEE- | enouf, is it documented anywhere? |
| 07:53.47 | enouf | ApOgEE-: which release of Debian are you running? |
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| 07:54.11 | enouf | try googling 'cc' , rofl |
| 07:54.46 | ApOgEE- | enouf, Linux ts7000 2.4.26-ts11 #1 Tue Nov 14 13:55:04 MST 2006 armv4l GNU/Linux |
| 07:55.11 | enouf | .... |
| 07:55.14 | Penix | !spank ApOgEE- |
| 07:56.42 | Haris1 | I set $QUARANTINEDIR = undef; tried setting $QUARANTINEDIR = "undef"; also tried $QUARANTINEDIR = ""; nothing works. amavis still saves a copy of the virus mails |
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| 07:57.00 | Haris1 | in /etc/amavis/conf.d/20-debian_defaults |
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| 08:03.07 | ApOgEE- | enouf, sorry, that's on uname -a... /etc/debian_version is 3.1 Sarge |
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| 08:03.46 | enouf | ApOgEE-: i still have no idea - and that still is not a debian kernel ;-) |
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| 08:11.03 | lymeca | How can I force installation of a package regardless of unmet dependencies? |
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| 08:11.03 | cryndes | lymeca: man apt-get |
| 08:11.08 | cryndes | !man |
| 08:11.08 | dpkg | [man] a little guy that knows everything about linux... just do man <commandname> and he will teach you all about <commandname>,a Municipal Area Network (city), or check ASD @ http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/asd/ |
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| 08:13.37 | lymeca | cryndes: apt-get --force-yes install libprojectm2 did not work |
| 08:13.53 | lymeca | It still complained that there is an unavailable depency and fails to install. |
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| 08:15.15 | Penix | lymeca: man dpkg |
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| 08:17.14 | tralala | lymeca, /msg dpkg equivs |
| 08:17.59 | up_the_irons | how i find out if a package, say, 'bash', is part of which repo? (main, universe, gutsy, etc...) |
| 08:18.10 | Penix | up_the_irons: you ask #ubuntu |
| 08:18.12 | up_the_irons | programmatically |
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| 08:18.49 | tralala | up_the_irons, there isn't univers, gutsy, etc in debian |
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| 08:18.52 | up_the_irons | Penix: pretend i said (sarge, etch, etc...) |
| 08:18.56 | Penix | up_the_irons: no |
| 08:18.58 | up_the_irons | tralala: ^^ |
| 08:19.02 | Penix | up_the_irons: ask #ubuntu |
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| 08:19.20 | up_the_irons | what's wrong with you ppl jesus |
| 08:19.24 | Penix | up_the_irons: we don't know about ubuntu's repo layouts. that's what |
| 08:19.49 | up_the_irons | Penix: they use the exact same packaging systems -- dpkg, apt/aptitude, etc... |
| 08:19.57 | Penix | *sigh* |
| 08:20.01 | up_the_irons | Penix: you're saying there's no way using those tools to find out which repo a package came from? |
| 08:20.06 | Penix | !based on |
| 08:20.06 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 08:20.09 | tralala | up_the_irons, what's wrong with asking in #ubuntu? |
| 08:20.57 | up_the_irons | tralala: nothing, but this is a packaging related question, and the package system used by debian, and ubuntu, came from debian, so i figure this channel is more appropriate |
| 08:21.01 | up_the_irons | let's start over |
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| 08:21.07 | tarzeau | Penix: do you know penis.istheshit.net ? |
| 08:21.08 | up_the_irons | I have an etch server |
| 08:21.12 | Penix | up_the_irons: no, it's not a packaging question |
| 08:21.22 | Penix | up_the_irons: it's a question about where a package is in ubuntu's repo |
| 08:21.30 | Penix | they use a different way to set up their repos |
| 08:21.32 | up_the_irons | Penix: nevermind that question |
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| 08:22.14 | Penix | tarzeau: heh. you've got too much time on your hands ;) |
| 08:22.31 | up_the_irons | Penix: i have a package, say bash, on etch. I have this in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ etch main contrib |
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| 08:22.52 | up_the_irons | Penix: is there a way to find out which repo that package came from? (etch, main, or contrib) ? |
| 08:23.00 | Penix | up_the_irons: a simple apt-cache show <package> will tell you |
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| 08:23.02 | up_the_irons | this question goes to anyone of course |
| 08:23.10 | Penix | Filename: pool/main/b/bash/bash_3.2-0ubuntu11_i386.deb |
| 08:23.16 | Penix | I'm sure there's a more elegant way |
| 08:23.24 | up_the_irons | Penix: ok thanks, that's all i needed to know |
| 08:23.38 | kgoetz | anyone else having problems with etch freezing when it hits xorg? i think it might be my laptops ram working its way lose, but i thought i'd check (as i have no screwdriver handy) |
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| 08:25.07 | Penix | am I the only one who's had 'LadyBot' notify spam them? |
| 08:25.25 | kgoetz | Penix: i havent seen it |
| 08:25.45 | Penix | hmm. saw this when I replied to a question |
| 08:25.48 | Penix | [19:18] -LadyBot(n=xgoogle@190.154.96.46)- .No Spam Penix estas avisado una ms y te vas |
| 08:25.49 | enouf | Penix: no, the butch spammed me too |
| 08:25.57 | enouf | [02:18:31] -LadyBot- .No Spam enouf estas avisado una ma y te vas <== that. but with the rectangles removed ;-) |
| 08:26.06 | Penix | !ops LadyBot is spamming |
| 08:26.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: penix complains about: LadyBot is spamming |
| 08:27.11 | kgoetz | look at the /topic of the channel in its /whois |
| 08:27.21 | kgoetz | bbs (i hope) |
| 08:29.21 | Penix | I love serial consoles and net booting |
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| 08:52.43 | waspius | hi.. can someonem tell me why when i try to remove ekiga or evolution it needs to remove gnome-desktop-environment? |
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| 08:53.20 | eusto | hi, i have a problem with a debian net installer: my network card has a RTL 8211B chip which is not recongnized by the debian installer. Apart from buing a network card...do i have any other options? |
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| 08:55.12 | dondelelcaro | eusto: use one of the nightly d-i installers. |
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| 08:56.09 | bkw | do I need any specific support to run NAT on 2.6.24? when I load my iptables rules I get iptables v1.3.6: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) |
| 08:57.29 | Penix | bkw: do you have any netfilter related modules loaded at all? |
| 08:57.45 | bkw | I do have netfilter support builtin |
| 08:57.47 | urv | waspius: because gnome-desktop-environment depends on those package |
| 08:58.31 | urv | waspius: apt-cache show gnome-desktop-environment (look at de Depends tag) |
| 08:58.41 | Penix | bkw: and all the various features are builtin as well? |
| 08:58.51 | waspius | urv: so there is no way to remove them? |
| 08:59.04 | waspius | i dont need them |
| 08:59.26 | urv | waspius: you don't but gnome-desktop-environmnt does |
| 08:59.40 | Penix | bkw: ie. 'Full NAT' etc. |
| 08:59.46 | dondelelcaro | bkw: are you using Debian's 2.6.24 kernels? If not, then you probably haven't built in nat support. |
| 08:59.59 | waspius | urv: k...thanx |
| 09:00.00 | Penix | bkw: modprobe iptable_nat IIRC |
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| 09:00.38 | bkw | FATAL: Module iptable_nat not found. |
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| 09:00.58 | Penix | bkw: so, is it a custom kernel or a debian one? |
| 09:01.03 | bkw | dondelelcaro: I've compiled my own 2.6.24 |
| 09:01.08 | Penix | bkw: then then your config |
| 09:01.11 | Penix | check rather |
| 09:01.20 | nerdsquad3210 | is the new freeBSD kernel in debian ? |
| 09:01.27 | Penix | nerdsquad3210: 7.0? yes |
| 09:01.34 | nerdsquad3210 | roflol |
| 09:01.40 | Penix | packages.debian.org/kfreebsd-7 |
| 09:01.43 | nerdsquad3210 | nice nick name |
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| 09:02.34 | Penix | don't worry about the log in mine. get that speck |
| 09:03.31 | nerdsquad3210 | Penix: are you a dick ? |
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| 09:04.02 | Penix | new addition to the ignore list |
| 09:04.04 | waspius | in order to get non-free apps do i add in all the repos at the end non-free? |
| 09:04.20 | Penix | waspius: yes. if the repo has non-free available |
| 09:04.39 | waspius | Penix: how will i know if it does? |
| 09:04.40 | bkw | http://pastebin.ca/921768 that's my .config I've selected netfilter |
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| 09:05.18 | Penix | waspius: if it's an official debian mirror, it most likely does. if it's an unofficial one, load up the repo URL(s) in your browser and have a look around |
| 09:05.37 | waspius | ok..thank you |
| 09:05.47 | Penix | waspius: or just apt-get update and wait for one of them to reject your request for a non-free Packages file etc. |
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| 09:06.45 | bkw | dondelelcaro: have I missed building any support? :( |
| 09:07.40 | Penix | bkw: just grep CONFIG_NF_NAT .config in your source dir, so we don't have to trawl through all that |
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| 09:08.43 | Penix | stupid pastebin pages are wigging when I try to find something on the page |
| 09:10.14 | bkw | Penix: nothing on that in .config |
| 09:10.40 | bkw | Penix: Are there any doc available that describes what support I need to get standard nat working with 2.6.24? |
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| 09:11.44 | Penix | bkw: you don't need docs. run menuconfig, go to Networking options->Netfilter->IP: Netfilter configuration |
| 09:12.05 | Penix | and enable FULL NAT and anything it requires |
| 09:13.09 | Penix | like Packet filtering, Iptables support and Masquerade I guess |
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| 09:13.44 | AlexC_ | I've got a problem with proFTP and Debian Etch - everytime I connect it keeps saying 'Failed to retrieve directory listing' and then times out. What could be causing this? |
| 09:14.10 | bkw | Penix: I think menus have changed |
| 09:14.25 | Penix | I'm looking at a 2.6.23 one right now |
| 09:14.33 | Penix | I can't imagine an overhaul since then... |
| 09:14.34 | bkw | http://pastebin.ca/921775 |
| 09:14.56 | Penix | IP: Netfilter Configuration ---> |
| 09:14.58 | Penix | like I said |
| 09:15.33 | Penix | bkw: any reason for not using a debian kernel btw? |
| 09:15.50 | bkw | everything in there are checked as modules |
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| 09:16.00 | lkthomas | guys |
| 09:16.01 | bkw | yes, support for sata controller on mobo |
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| 09:16.16 | lkthomas | how could I scp with dir premission as well ? |
| 09:16.17 | Penix | bkw: then you *should* have some sort of iptable_* modules |
| 09:16.52 | Penix | bkw: look in /lib/modules/YOURKERNELVERSIONHERE/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter |
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| 09:19.47 | bkw | Penix: http://pastebin.ca/921776 hmm, I don't see any nat |
| 09:20.11 | sw | hi, i need to make a dist-upgrade of sarge to debian.. i just want to download packages for now.. will the -d work ? i don't wanna mess up the system now |
| 09:20.17 | sw | to etch* |
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| 09:20.29 | Penix | sw: yes |
| 09:21.45 | bkw | Penix: You know the name of the module I shall load? |
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| 09:22.05 | Penix | bkw: yes, I already told you, but from looking at your config file, you haven't enabled NAT |
| 09:22.22 | Penix | if there's no mention of it in your config, then it's not there |
| 09:22.41 | Penix | you should atleast have something like CONFIG_NF_NAT=m or =y |
| 09:22.51 | bkw | <M> IP tables support (required for filtering/masq/NAT) <- is there |
| 09:23.01 | Penix | bkw: I already told you, you need more than that |
| 09:23.13 | Penix | try listening to me, and we might be able to get through this |
| 09:23.20 | bkw | okey, sorry |
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| 09:23.47 | waspius | is sun-java-jre needed for java support or will sun-java-plugin suffice? |
| 09:23.59 | bkw | Penix: I've selected it as (*) built in |
| 09:24.03 | Penix | enable Full NAT, MASQUERADE and IP Tables support in the 'IP: Netfilter configuration' dialog |
| 09:24.19 | Penix | bkw: AS WELL AS the one you've already enabled |
| 09:24.48 | Penix | waspius: java support for what? browser applets? |
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| 09:25.05 | waspius | browser applets yes |
| 09:25.36 | bkw | Penix: sorry but I'm not following <*> IP tables support (required for filtering/masq/NAT) is selected now. Anything more I should build in? |
| 09:25.43 | Penix | I've never even heard of a sun-java-plugin package |
| 09:25.52 | Penix | Oh for fuck's sake |
| 09:26.02 | Penix | bkw: I'll say it again: enable Full NAT, MASQUERADE and IP Tables support in the 'IP: Netfilter configuration' dialog |
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| 09:26.16 | waspius | well that is what i have been using..anyway from what i see it is enough.. |
| 09:26.43 | Penix | waspius: should do the job, whatever it is. jre should only be needed for full blown Java apps |
| 09:27.01 | Penix | or maybe its required for browser stuff too I guess |
| 09:27.07 | waspius | ok |
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| 09:27.48 | Penix | bkw: don't forget IPv4 connection tracking |
| 09:28.26 | waspius | Penix: do you know how i can format my external hard drive in a format that is recognised by windows?i.e fat32? |
| 09:28.48 | Penix | waspius: console? man mkfs.vfat |
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| 09:29.07 | Penix | bkw: 'Packet filtering' too probably |
| 09:29.16 | waspius | thanx i will check it |
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| 09:30.26 | waspius | Penix: i have no manual it says |
| 09:30.29 | dad | hey! where's apache2_mod_access? ,od_order? |
| 09:30.42 | dad | oops mod_order |
| 09:30.50 | Penix | waspius: install dosfstools |
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| 09:31.01 | waspius | thanx |
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| 09:31.59 | bkw | Penix: isn't that what I did by changing from <M> to <*> on IP tables support (required for filtering/masq/NAT) and <*> Netfilter connection tracking support |
| 09:32.43 | Penix | bkw: I don't know what you're doing. just do what I told you. enable all the options I mentioned as either modules or builtin (M or *) |
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| 09:33.41 | jetscreamer | don't fuck with the networking ones unless you know what you're doing |
| 09:34.03 | dad | i just installed apache2, debian testing, and can't find mod_order or <oops> mod_alias |
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| 09:34.46 | jetscreamer | !tell dad -about search |
| 09:34.50 | jetscreamer | !tell dad -about apt-file |
| 09:35.01 | jetscreamer | hth |
| 09:35.17 | Penix | jetscreamer: they're yours now. later ;) |
| 09:35.26 | jetscreamer | heh |
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| 09:38.43 | waspius | where are the desktop backgrounds located? |
| 09:39.09 | dad | jetscreamer: i looked closely in packages.debian.org/testing - no luck there. |
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| 09:39.59 | bkw | when running make xconfig it complains about qt required. I've installed qt4-dev-tools but I still get that error |
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| 09:41.38 | hark | !xconfig |
| 09:41.38 | dpkg | xconfig is probably a graphical Linux configuration tool which requires libqt3-mt-dev. |
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| 09:42.16 | hark | waspius: try /usr/share/images/desktop-base/ |
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| 09:42.44 | bkw | ah, ok |
| 09:43.25 | waspius | hark: thanx!! |
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| 09:44.03 | clusty | hey |
| 09:44.16 | clusty | does gmailfs still work? |
| 09:44.30 | clusty | i am getting error 400 bad request message |
| 09:45.04 | waspius | how do you copy all files from one folder without needing to write them all individually? |
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| 09:45.24 | tarzeau | waspius: rsync -av ./here/ /there/ |
| 09:45.29 | niru | does debian support SATA hadisk |
| 09:45.35 | tarzeau | niru: yes |
| 09:45.36 | niru | if no how to solve this |
| 09:45.39 | waspius | tarzeau: thanx |
| 09:45.49 | tarzeau | niru: debian supports whatever upstream supports (generally) |
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| 09:45.58 | tarzeau | niru: i'm not sure for gnu/hurd, but kfreebsd and linux do |
| 09:46.24 | niru | tarzeau, which package does that |
| 09:46.37 | tarzeau | linux-image* ? |
| 09:46.37 | waspius | tarzeau: command not found |
| 09:46.45 | tarzeau | !install |
| 09:46.46 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 09:46.49 | tarzeau | !installit |
| 09:46.49 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get, or aptitude |
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| 09:47.53 | niru | tarzeau, how I will come to know that wherther the distro I have selected has Sata harddisk support and which is responsible for that?is it kernel |
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| 09:49.32 | tarzeau | niru: etch does, you just install it |
| 09:49.40 | tarzeau | niru: if you can't, it doesn't see your harddisk |
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| 09:55.48 | AlexC_ | I've got a problem with proFTP and Debian Etch - everytime I connect it keeps saying 'Failed to retrieve directory listing' and then times out. What could be causing this? |
| 09:56.15 | frankie | AlexC_: you need to use passive mode |
| 09:56.18 | bkw | hm, I get nothing with NAT in my .config even thou I've selected it in the menuconfig :/ |
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| 09:56.34 | AlexC_ | frankie, it is using passive mode, well that's what it seems to be connecting as |
| 09:56.52 | frankie | AlexC_: so check the server fw |
| 09:57.00 | AlexC_ | Response:227 Entering Passive Mode (foobar). |
| 09:57.12 | niru | tarzeau, I actually a flavour of debian |
| 09:57.18 | AlexC_ | frankie, its set to allow connections on port21 |
| 09:57.20 | frankie | AlexC_: if the server is natted you need masqueradeaddress |
| 09:57.27 | frankie | AlexC_: it is not sufficient |
| 09:57.33 | AlexC_ | frankie, can you explain more on that please? |
| 09:57.33 | niru | tarzeau, and it is unabke to detect sata |
| 09:57.33 | tarzeau | !flavour |
| 09:57.39 | tarzeau | niru: which flavour? |
| 09:57.45 | niru | tarzeau, so what can I do to solve it |
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| 09:57.55 | tarzeau | niru: i don't know of debian flavours. what do you really have? |
| 09:58.09 | tarzeau | niru: if you take the original it will work. just take the original, no cheap plastic imitations |
| 09:58.14 | niru | tarzeau, you know BOSS(bharat operating system solutions) .http://www.bosslinux.in |
| 09:58.18 | Davo_again | http://rafb.net/p/IFwDra60.html What am I doing wrong here? |
| 09:58.18 | frankie | AlexC_: http://www.proftpd.de/Active-Passive-Dokumentation.35.0.html |
| 09:58.22 | tarzeau | niru: no i don't know it |
| 09:58.28 | AlexC_ | frankie, thanks =) |
| 09:58.37 | tarzeau | niru: you think you can merry heidi klum with a cheap plastic diamond ring? |
| 09:58.43 | niru | tarzeau, its an Indian version of linux |
| 09:58.50 | tarzeau | niru: it's not debian |
| 09:59.03 | waspius | when u connect a digital camera to your pc and the message saying it has been detected shows up..and you click the option import photos...where exactly do they go? |
| 09:59.05 | tarzeau | niru: there is debian and there's other stuff. here debian is supported |
| 09:59.06 | niru | tarzeau, its based on debian and we use higher version kernel |
| 09:59.10 | tarzeau | !based on |
| 09:59.11 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 09:59.28 | tarzeau | niru: one can even configure a newer kernel worse than debian |
| 09:59.37 | tarzeau | niru: higher is not equal to better |
| 10:00.29 | AlexC_ | frankie, so I need to open up ports 21 to 1024? |
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| 10:00.54 | expose | Why is this channel logged on irclinux.org? |
| 10:01.02 | niru | tarzeau, we use 2.6.21 |
| 10:01.25 | tarzeau | niru: we use 2.6.24.2 |
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| 10:01.39 | tarzeau | expose: where else? |
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| 10:02.21 | bkw | shouldn't the .config store anything about nat then it is built in to kernel? |
| 10:02.42 | expose | Where else? Dunno. But it seems like irclinux.org stopped it's freaky operations on 3rd of january |
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| 10:03.25 | ltlekvar | dpkg: coffee? |
| 10:03.26 | dpkg | it has been said that coffee is the reason the net exists, the drug of choice for a GNU generation, http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/coffee.el, /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Coffee.html, geiseri's favorite beverage, smells better than it tastes |
| 10:03.38 | ltlekvar | (clearnig throat politely) |
| 10:03.40 | ltlekvar | dpkg: meth? |
| 10:03.41 | dpkg | well, meth is better then coffee. no worse. no, better. worse! better! worse! better! worse! better! worse! WORSE!!! |
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| 10:05.23 | ltlekvar | Thoughts anyone? |
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| 10:09.20 | pauldoo | I'm planning to upgrade my boot disk soon. Normally I just do this by using 'dd' to copy over the entire drive to the new one. Get myself booting from the new drive (normally works first time), then extend the partitions I want to extend into the extra space. I assume this will work fine with grub.. ? |
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| 10:11.54 | ltlekvar | vs...? |
| 10:12.43 | pauldoo | well I've done this with lilo before and it worked. Will it work equally with grub? |
| 10:14.16 | jelly-ho | pauldoo: why not? But formating anew and copying the files gives you defragmentation! |
| 10:14.43 | pauldoo | jelly-ho: it does, but then I need to re-run grub because the kernel image will almost certainly have moved |
| 10:14.48 | ltlekvar | i think you're onto one of those "it should but trying it would be educational" things here |
| 10:14.52 | jelly-ho | pauldoo: of course |
| 10:15.01 | ltlekvar | what do you have to lose by trying? |
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| 10:15.27 | jelly-ho | not just run grub, but grub-install (or install it manually) |
| 10:15.28 | gordonjcp | ltlekvar: the contents of your disk? |
| 10:15.44 | phorce1 | wow, I remember when "make modules" was a 5 minute thing, even on a p-266. XMMS is making it's way through the 3rd 5 minute long Killers song and "make modules" looks nowhere near complete. And I'll probably have to do this 20 or 30 times over the next few days. |
| 10:15.46 | pauldoo | jelly-ho: is that easy?, when the drives will getting dd'd on a different machine from the one that I'm upgrading? (the machine being upgraded only has space for 1 disk) |
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| 10:16.05 | phorce1 | Any way to limit WHICH modules a full kernel tree rebuilds? |
| 10:16.15 | ltlekvar | gordonjcp: the contents of HIS disc ;) |
| 10:16.20 | gordonjcp | well yeah |
| 10:16.28 | pauldoo | gordonjcp: I won't lose the contents of the disk, if the worst comes to the worst I just put the original one back.. |
| 10:16.35 | gordonjcp | ytue |
| 10:16.37 | gordonjcp | true, even |
| 10:16.44 | pauldoo | gordonjcp: unless of course I get my arguments to dd the wrong way round... :( |
| 10:16.49 | jelly-ho | pauldoo: it's not very hard. Boot from a livecd, mount the root partition, chroot to it, run grub-install /dev/sda (or whatever) |
| 10:16.54 | gordonjcp | well there is that |
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| 10:17.39 | pauldoo | jelly-ho: hmmm.. the machine I'm upgrading is a different arch from the machine I'll be doing the dd on. So I doubt the grub-install will run properly within the chroot |
| 10:18.36 | pauldoo | jelly-ho: I'll mess about and give it a shot though, there must be some way of doing it. and like you say, it'll give me a defrag |
| 10:19.25 | jelly-ho | pauldoo: remember to pick the right options for cp/rsync. You'll probably want to keep the hardlinks, sparse files, etc as-is |
| 10:20.03 | pauldoo | jelly-ho: I believe cp -a is all I'll need. but I'll check |
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| 10:22.46 | pauldoo | dpkg: coffee |
| 10:22.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, coffee is the reason the net exists, the drug of choice for a GNU generation, http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/coffee.el, /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Coffee.html, geiseri's favorite beverage, smells better than it tastes |
| 10:22.53 | pauldoo | I don't have that mini howto... |
| 10:23.40 | pauldoo | it's no longer in the mini subfolder... someone should tell dpkg |
| 10:24.15 | pauldoo | dpkg: coffee is the reason the net exists, the drug of choice for a GNU generation, http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/coffee.el, /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Coffee.html, geiseri's favorite beverage, smells better than it tastes |
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| 10:24.49 | pauldoo | dpkg: coffee |
| 10:24.49 | dpkg | well, coffee is the reason the net exists, the drug of choice for a GNU generation, http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/coffee.el, /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Coffee.html, geiseri's favorite beverage, smells better than it tastes |
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| 10:25.12 | pauldoo | hmmm - didn't work |
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| 10:27.38 | ltlekvar | computers are mainly an excuse to drink coffee |
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| 10:28.26 | phorce1 | heh -- I only have the text HOWTO's installed here and I just glanced at it. --- Uhhh, am I a geek if I *DO* have remote control of my coffee maker? (Using X-10 hardware) |
| 10:28.40 | phorce1 | section 3 |
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| 10:31.38 | phorce1 | hmmm,I also have a serial port controlled 110VAC relay I could use for that since the computer I was using it for is no longer in use (funky bios required power-down for a hard reset and I needed remote reset) |
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| 10:34.46 | adinc | i've php pear package Net_Socket installed which I can see when looking with pear search socket, but the files like Socket.php are not accessible when debian package php-net-socket is not installed, not it seems that i've both installed, is there a policy behind it? |
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| 10:46.06 | Malok | hello |
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| 10:46.42 | Malok | is there any specific channel i can get help with amavis/spamassassin or should i try here ? |
| 10:46.42 | yaboo | stupid question installed libapache2-mod-php, but somehow apache does not recognise .php files |
| 10:47.00 | yaboo | what has screwed up with the installation, or how do I get back on track |
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| 10:47.38 | JustSoul | What kernel version support intel 945 chipset? |
| 10:48.07 | liable | the lenny one at least |
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| 10:51.38 | Malok | i have amavis with spamassassin but i cant get it to place headers in emails, could anyone help me with that ? |
| 10:51.39 | adinc | i'm trying to install pecl ssh2 package which asks for libssh2 library, unfortunately i can't find this package in the debian package list, does someone know how this is called? |
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| 10:52.33 | et | Malok: your best bet is asking in your MTAs channel |
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| 10:55.13 | Malok | how do i actually do that ? |
| 10:55.36 | Blapto | Malok: are you using exim, or what? |
| 10:57.59 | Malok | hmm not familiar with the term, i use postfix, amavis, clamav and spamassassin, i know all works (it blokes test spam) it just dont want to put headers in messages |
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| 10:59.10 | Blapto | join #postfix |
| 10:59.50 | Malok | of cheers m8 |
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| 11:06.18 | yaboo | how do I do a force remove of a package |
| 11:07.59 | cleo_ | i have remove Grub |
| 11:08.09 | cleo_ | so how can i install it now :) |
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| 11:09.26 | qiyong | is it a good idea to enable quota on /var ? |
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| 11:10.20 | gold44 | debian have sun java? i don't see it in apt-cache |
| 11:10.32 | eth01 | ping |
| 11:10.56 | cleo_ | yes |
| 11:11.00 | cleo_ | Gold44 |
| 11:11.01 | gold44 | will i need to compile it myself? ubuntu has sun java in repostitory |
| 11:11.06 | cleo_ | there is java |
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| 11:11.17 | gold44 | cleo_: sun java, not gcj |
| 11:11.22 | cleo_ | yes |
| 11:11.26 | cleo_ | sun Java |
| 11:11.31 | cleo_ | for web |
| 11:11.33 | nimbat | yaboo: dpkg --force-all -r <package> |
| 11:11.34 | gold44 | what package name? |
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| 11:11.45 | yaboo | nimbat thanls |
| 11:13.53 | gold44 | Package: sun-java5-jre (1.5.0-14-3) [non-free] <---how can i get that? i downloaded 4 dvd isos. but it only has main and contrib. |
| 11:14.08 | amphi | !non-free |
| 11:14.08 | dpkg | somebody said non-free was a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 11:14.17 | gold44 | it's for a non-internet macihe |
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| 11:15.28 | amphi | you could download the package on another machine, and transfer it to the destination machine by sneakernet perhaps |
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| 11:15.54 | gold44 | amphi: dependence problem? |
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| 11:16.14 | amphi | gold44: I have no idea what the deps are, if any |
| 11:16.22 | amphi | gold44: apt-cache would tell you |
| 11:16.26 | gold44 | amphi: dependence problem? so much packages to down load, don't know which one is needed, beside theone i just pasted |
| 11:17.07 | gold44 | amphi: i ve no debian box connected to internet. apt-X no work |
| 11:17.30 | amphi | ah |
| 11:17.42 | Maulkin_ | gold44: packages.debian.org |
| 11:17.50 | Maulkin_ | Or download the CDs |
| 11:17.56 | gold44 | perhaps apt-get install will warn me, if sun-java-xxx.deb is not enough |
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| 11:18.20 | gold44 | Maulkin_: i got all the CDS. 4 dvd iso in my deb box now |
| 11:18.45 | gold44 | 20 cd=12gb. 4 dvd=12gb |
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| 11:22.21 | gold44 | http://packages.debian.org/etch/sun-java5-jdk will that last link "i386" give me all those dependences? |
| 11:23.08 | gold44 | why it's only 4MB? i remember when i installed it in slackware, it was 70-150MB in size |
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| 11:24.31 | amphi | slackware is bloated |
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| 11:25.27 | gold44 | amphi: no it's not. it has nothing to do with slackware. i downloaded the executable |
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| 11:25.42 | amphi | gold44: I was joking |
| 11:25.51 | gold44 | that execuatable will work on all platform |
| 11:26.18 | Maulkin | There you go then |
| 11:26.23 | gold44 | shouldn't joke like that, some people who are new here, might get confused |
| 11:26.24 | Maulkin | There's the difference |
| 11:26.32 | Maulkin | Go download the package |
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| 11:26.53 | gold44 | i just downloaded the 4mb sun-xx.deb. |
| 11:27.17 | gold44 | hope it has everything. if i get directly from sun.com, it should be 70-150mb |
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| 11:27.53 | Maulkin | gold44: You have a list of dependancues on that page |
| 11:28.13 | gold44 | yeah, http://packages.debian.org/etch/sun-java5-jdk shows it. Maulkin |
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| 11:28.30 | Maulkin | Then download the ones you don't have. |
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| 11:29.20 | amphi | gold44: you can't connect the debian box to the 'net, temporarily? it might be a lot simpler |
| 11:29.23 | gold44 | those dependence is probably on those 4 dvd iso, which i already mounted on /mnt/here1 |
| 11:29.44 | gold44 | amphi: no, i can't. |
| 11:29.50 | gold44 | wait... i can, i guess |
| 11:30.14 | gold44 | i have to route it. using cross over cable |
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| 11:30.36 | XoX | is it necessary to put /proc file system in /etc/fstab in etch/ |
| 11:30.44 | gold44 | but i am not going to unplug all cables and move machine down stairs |
| 11:30.47 | XoX | or do the init scripts already mount /proc automatically |
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| 11:31.54 | gold44 | XoX: i dont' see /proc on my fstab |
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| 11:32.31 | amphi | I do here, but this is Leonard - "proc /proc proc defaults 0 0" |
| 11:32.55 | gold44 | i have etch |
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| 11:33.27 | behrad | how can i config diffrent ip address , hostname and etc. in chroot enviroment? |
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| 11:33.53 | XoX | brb |
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| 11:35.28 | gold44 | hey, what's the deal with open office 2.0 on etch? etch release3 was like 2 weeks old. ubuntu 7.10 has 2.3 open office. and that distro is 5 months old |
| 11:35.47 | petemc | stable doesnt get new software |
| 11:36.15 | gold44 | petemc: i f i get unstable , i can upgrade to 2.3? |
| 11:36.20 | gold44 | via apt-get? |
| 11:36.25 | AEX | hi all |
| 11:36.46 | amphi | gold44: you probably don't want unstable |
| 11:36.49 | gold44 | shit, i probablly need to compile my own openoffi 2.3 anyway |
| 11:36.53 | petemc | gold44: unstable has newer software and is updated regularly - but as the name suggests, it can break |
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| 11:37.09 | aep | greetings. |
| 11:37.23 | XoX | is it safe to do automatically updates in etch |
| 11:37.26 | amphi | gold44: testing appears to have 2.3 |
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| 11:37.28 | gold44 | my debian box is non-internet connected |
| 11:37.39 | XoX | automatic updates |
| 11:37.41 | aep | i'm missing a device node after formating. /dev/sdb is formated to have one partition /dev/sdb1, unfortunatly i cant see it. even after reboot |
| 11:38.02 | petemc | aep: how did you create the partition? |
| 11:38.06 | aep | cfdisk |
| 11:38.13 | aep | it's there. says cfdisk and dmesg |
| 11:38.14 | gold44 | amphi: OOffice 2.3 is stable. perhaps it's not stable in debian? |
| 11:38.30 | petemc | aep: and what happens when you try to mount it? |
| 11:38.30 | amphi | gold44: eh? |
| 11:38.34 | aep | mesg | grep sdb1 |
| 11:38.34 | aep | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:38.42 | aep | petemc: i cant. there is no device node |
| 11:39.35 | gold44 | http://download.openoffice.org/index.html <-- amphi, 2.3 stable |
| 11:40.00 | waspius | this is my grub menu.lst http://paste.debian.net/50086 i want to change my boot image but it is not working.can you please ckeck and tell me what i am doing wrong?thank you |
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| 11:41.18 | gold44 | waspius: perhaps you would like to paste it again wiht "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst|grep -v" |
| 11:41.30 | gold44 | waspius: perhaps you would like to paste it again wiht "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst|grep -v "#" " |
| 11:41.43 | aep | petemc: oh and dmesg says "md: bind<sdb>" |
| 11:41.49 | aep | but i didnt set up md |
| 11:42.00 | Maulkin | !doesn't work |
| 11:42.00 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 11:42.17 | gold44 | !no workie |
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| 11:43.16 | amphi | gold44: what are you telling me? I just told you that 2.3 is in the testing branch of debian |
| 11:43.56 | waspius | gold44: what do you mean..i run the commande but i get < |
| 11:44.10 | gold44 | amphi: never mind. i said the app is stable. but not stable under debian. debian have not test it yet |
| 11:44.29 | gold44 | waspius: le t me try |
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| 11:45.05 | gold44 | cat /boot/grub/menu.lst|grep -v "#" |
| 11:45.11 | gold44 | waspius: taht |
| 11:45.35 | petemc | uuoc |
| 11:45.51 | waspius | permission denied??and i did it as root |
| 11:45.56 | berzerka | i have emacs21 installed. because i want the python major mode i want to move to emacs22. how do you suggest to make a smooth transition? just uninstall the old and install the new? the other way around? |
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| 11:46.02 | petemc | aep: do you see other stuff in dmesg about assembling arrays? |
| 11:46.12 | AlexC_ | hey, how can I enable iptable modules? |
| 11:46.23 | petemc | same as other modules |
| 11:46.28 | waspius | gold44: permission denied??and i did it as root |
| 11:46.36 | gold44 | cat /boot/grub/menu.lst <--how about this denied too? |
| 11:46.52 | kubitz | Hello I have a problem using samba between Fedora 8 and Debian boxes. The Debian share can't be accessed from the Fedora system. It actually looks like the problem is with Fedora's smb client because the my windows system can see both linux systems and Debian can access both systems. Anyway my first question is where should I ask this? And if it's here how do I go about a finding a solution |
| 11:46.54 | waspius | gold44: no |
| 11:47.01 | gold44 | cat /boot/grub/menu.lst|grep -v "#" |
| 11:47.07 | gold44 | just copy and paste that |
| 11:47.09 | aep | oh that problem ocures with debian only (4.0. didnt test any other version) |
| 11:47.26 | aep | and blacklisting md does nothing. it loads it anyway |
| 11:47.29 | waspius | gold44: ok worked |
| 11:47.42 | amphi | gold44: right - they just packaged it and hoped for the best |
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| 11:48.07 | waspius | gold44: http://paste.debian.net/50087 |
| 11:48.42 | aep | petemc: yes. lots |
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| 11:49.10 | petemc | aep: it sounds like you have software raid |
| 11:49.24 | kubitz | But my main issue is because this involves three separate things where do I ask about it? |
| 11:49.32 | aep | petemc: http://rafb.net/p/u1N1au15.html |
| 11:49.37 | aep | petemc: i didnt set up any raid |
| 11:49.42 | petemc | kubitz: #samba mught be safe bet |
| 11:49.44 | aep | it came with the default install them |
| 11:49.48 | petemc | no, it doesnt |
| 11:49.48 | berzerka | kubitz: #samba or #fedora maybe.. |
| 11:49.50 | petemc | //rafb.net/p/u1N1au15.html |
| 11:49.50 | aep | how can i remove it? |
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| 11:50.06 | aep | blacklisting the md modules doesnt help |
| 11:50.25 | gold44 | waspius: tell your problem again |
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| 11:50.46 | JustSoul | I'm replace network card. I have DHCP. How to config network? |
| 11:50.51 | waspius | gold44: i want to change my boot image but this fails for some reason |
| 11:50.53 | kubitz | so it's safe to safe if windows and Debian can access each other fine then the problem is with the Fedora system? |
| 11:51.26 | gold44 | waspius: change like #29 or #30 |
| 11:51.26 | petemc | kubitz: samba has very good logging |
| 11:51.35 | berzerka | JustSoul: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-dhcp |
| 11:51.45 | gold44 | waspius: change liNe #29 or #30 |
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| 11:51.57 | waspius | gold44: ok i will try,..thanx |
| 11:52.04 | berzerka | JustSoul: look at "high level interface configuration" below. |
| 11:52.16 | aep | petemc: yeah, you're right. /proc/mdstat shows sdb1 |
| 11:52.21 | aep | so how can i remove it? |
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| 11:52.32 | kubitz | petemc yeah I've just downloaded the full samba manual but I was tring to get a shortcut - my first impressions of Fedora are not as good as Debian :( |
| 11:52.35 | gold44 | waspius: chnage boot image dangerous, someone once warned me |
| 11:52.35 | JustSoul | berzerka: thx |
| 11:52.43 | petemc | aep: unassembling software raid is not something ive ever done |
| 11:53.00 | aep | well i dont have an active raid. i hope |
| 11:53.03 | Thumann | :D hey guys, may i post a question i really should be posting in #apache (and have done so) regarding .htaccess files :P |
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| 11:53.10 | aep | md just swallows sdb |
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| 11:53.25 | waspius | gold44: well i had done it before with no probs |
| 11:53.34 | aep | i cant remove it either. i dont seem to have any package installed that contains md |
| 11:53.36 | gold44 | waspius: ok, if u say so |
| 11:53.42 | waspius | but thanx |
| 11:53.56 | kubitz | thanks |
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| 11:54.56 | behrad | can i config diffrent ip address , hostname and etc. in chroot enviroment? |
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| 11:56.15 | SpAc | I'm having trouble figuring this out. How do I use ntop to find out what process(es) are using the internet? |
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| 11:56.36 | JustSoul | berzerka: Is it piossible to change eth1 to eth0? |
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| 11:57.09 | liable | JustSoul: do you have two ethernet cards? |
| 11:57.11 | berzerka | JustSoul: do you have 2 network cards and want to interchange their naming? |
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| 11:58.28 | JustSoul | liable: berzerka: no, I change one card to another |
| 11:58.54 | liable | !z25 |
| 11:58.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, z25 is as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac> |
| 11:59.15 | liable | JustSoul: remove that file and reload your cards module. |
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| 11:59.55 | liable | or you can edit it.. |
| 11:59.58 | berzerka | hey, nice.. :) |
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| 12:00.16 | JustSoul | liable: thx ver much |
| 12:00.20 | liable | np |
| 12:00.28 | phw_ | in what package does usleep reside? |
| 12:00.41 | liable | phw_: /msg dpkg search |
| 12:00.41 | petemc | phw_: /msg dpkg search |
| 12:00.44 | petemc | damn! |
| 12:00.50 | liable | !win me |
| 12:00.53 | petemc | :) |
| 12:01.05 | liable | dpkg: wake up! |
| 12:01.22 | liable | must have gone to the can.. |
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| 12:02.51 | Thumann | http://pastebin.ca/921835 | anyone know why my blog links wont work? forum ones do. (.htaccess rewrite rule) like, http://onewish.wowrankings.org/forum/blog/antileahs-blog/ should show this blog : http://onewish.wowrankings.org/forum/index.php?action=blog;sa=view_blog;name=antileahs-blog |
| 12:03.05 | Thumann | sorry for OT'ish question, not much help in #apache |
| 12:03.31 | phw_ | liable: when i search over apt-cache it does not find it... |
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| 12:03.53 | liable | phw_: you need to install apt-file, use the bot, or p.d.o |
| 12:04.32 | phw_ | liable: apt-file search usleep does not return anything = |
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| 12:05.19 | delcoyote | aardvarq, hi XD |
| 12:05.32 | phw_ | aw |
| 12:05.35 | phw_ | my mistake |
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| 12:10.38 | aep_ | great. i deinstalled mdadm, and of course it had to regenerate the default kernel image. leaving an unbootable system |
| 12:10.54 | aep_ | and i cant get xen to boot anymore |
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| 12:11.45 | phw_ | thank you liable ! |
| 12:12.43 | liable | phw_: yw |
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| 12:15.37 | aep_ | why does debian always assume everyone is a retard, and then breaks everything with its automated "helpers" |
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| 12:16.46 | azeem | aep_: arguments with "always", "everyone" and "everything" are always bullshit |
| 12:17.09 | aep_ | s,everyone is,i am |
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| 12:17.25 | aep_ | s,everything,things that would work if debian scripts just left it alone |
| 12:17.50 | aep_ | ok anyway. sorry |
| 12:18.16 | aep_ | now i just need to find out why the heck my grub.conf is ignored. |
| 12:18.33 | liable | grub.conf? |
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| 12:18.53 | aep_ | menu.lst |
| 12:19.25 | aep_ | root@ibcsolutions:/boot/grub# cat /proc/cmdline |
| 12:19.25 | aep_ | auto BOOT_IMAGE=Standardkernel ro root=802 |
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| 12:19.33 | aep_ | thats nothing from menu.lst |
| 12:19.36 | aep_ | i didnt enter that |
| 12:19.41 | aep_ | so wtf is going on? |
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| 12:20.01 | liable | thats odd |
| 12:20.02 | azeem | maybe the Grub in MBR is pointed to another partition with /boot on it? |
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| 12:20.23 | aep_ | um. there is no other partition |
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| 12:20.28 | azeem | aep_: is this your own server or some hosted thing? |
| 12:20.28 | liable | azeem: is that a vhost or something? |
| 12:20.29 | aep_ | there are two, and one is empty |
| 12:20.31 | liable | er |
| 12:20.34 | liable | aep_: ^^ |
| 12:20.38 | aep_ | azeem: my own. but i cant access it physicaly |
| 12:20.54 | aep_ | ie. dedicated server |
| 12:21.16 | azeem | maybe they screwed you and thought you wouldn't notice |
| 12:21.28 | azeem | aep_: is this a standard Debian install? |
| 12:21.32 | aep_ | heh. you mean its not a real machine? |
| 12:21.36 | aep_ | azeem: yes |
| 12:21.40 | aep_ | from the etch install cd |
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| 12:22.02 | azeem | then even if you pass it a custom menu.lst, it wouldn't have the above cmdline |
| 12:22.15 | azeem | eh, passed it a custom menu.lst it ignored, |
| 12:22.23 | netcrash | Hello , Trying to install hearbeat-2 but crm_mon says "requires ncurses to be available during the build process" |
| 12:22.32 | netcrash | tryed installing ncurses but did not solve |
| 12:22.36 | aep_ | well the script from the mdadm uninstallation mentioned "installing Standardkernel *" |
| 12:22.37 | azeem | so yeah, the suspicion might be that this is not a real machine |
| 12:22.44 | azeem | aep_: hrm |
| 12:22.52 | azeem | dunno about mdadm |
| 12:22.53 | netcrash | also writing crm_mon on the term gives nothing with auto complete |
| 12:22.58 | aep_ | so actually i suspect some installer script |
| 12:23.03 | aep_ | beeing "smart" |
| 12:23.52 | aep | yee now it doesnt boot anymore |
| 12:23.57 | aep | great |
| 12:24.02 | aep | and its a production system |
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| 12:25.02 | phorce1 | netcrash: install libncurses5-dev |
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| 12:25.38 | afaict | Hi folks! I've used to use debian installed in a usb stick of 8gb. I used XFS and it worked really well. Now i would like to try another FS. What do you suggest ? Don't say ext2/ext3 please |
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| 12:25.56 | azeem | afaict: why do you want to try another file system? |
| 12:26.02 | azeem | afaict: what do you use the system for? |
| 12:26.54 | afaict | azeem i use as my desktop only. i would like to try a faster filesystem when it's about usb flash disk. |
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| 12:27.53 | wifigeek | hey guys, i have a question. in etch release, if i download debian kernel sources, are they already patched for the latest kernel vulnerabilities? |
| 12:27.54 | eifzon | How can I get hddtemp to work in phpsysinfo? |
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| 12:28.02 | azeem | afaict: faster for which operations? |
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| 12:28.42 | liable | wifigeek: yes (or the patches are in the source package and applied at build time, not sure which) |
| 12:28.53 | wifigeek | kk |
| 12:28.55 | wifigeek | ty |
| 12:29.01 | afaict | azeem i had no problem using as my desktop with XFS. but when i run apt-get update / apt-get dist-upgrade it uses a lot of read/write and XFS is not so good for this operation |
| 12:29.22 | azeem | afaict: and ext3 is worse? |
| 12:29.40 | phorce1 | wifigeek: yes, if youdownload the source package it is patched to the latest debian released version |
| 12:29.48 | wifigeek | kk |
| 12:29.52 | afaict | azeem i haven't tried. i've used ext3 for some years but right now i trust in XFS. |
| 12:30.03 | afaict | azeem all my new servers i use XFS. |
| 12:30.05 | wifigeek | i just wanted to make sure before i build my new kernel, since my current one is vulnerable to the latest 2.6 exploits |
| 12:30.18 | afaict | azeem and the speed is quite surprising compared with ext2/ext3. |
| 12:30.22 | azeem | afaict: personally, I don't think the file system matters for anything except big servers or very special setups |
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| 12:30.35 | eifzon | Anyone knows? |
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| 12:31.07 | phorce1 | wifigeek: and maybe more (in lenny anyway --- the current linux-image is 2.6.22-3 and the linux-source is 2.6.22-10) |
| 12:31.27 | afaict | azeem ok but i had A SIGNIFICANT difference when i use apt-get update/dist-upgrade using REISER FS and when i use with xfs ... in my pendrive.. i can see the difference |
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| 12:31.34 | wifigeek | im using etch |
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| 12:33.36 | netcrash | phorce1: I think the package did not install correctly |
| 12:34.27 | phorce1 | wifigeek: when you grab the source package look at the top line in ./linux-source-2.6.18/debian/changelog to see the revision number of that tree |
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| 12:34.51 | wifigeek | kk |
| 12:35.12 | wifigeek | i dont have that /debian folder |
| 12:35.35 | wifigeek | i used apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18 |
| 12:35.37 | phorce1 | netcrash: It's not something I'm familiar with but when a package tells you it needs "xx" available while *building* then it needs the -dev of "xx" |
| 12:36.02 | amphi | afaict: reiser may be fast, but sooner or later you will come to hate it ;) |
| 12:36.08 | wifigeek | phorce1, should i be using linux-tree-2.6.18 instead? |
| 12:36.10 | eifzon | Någon här som har fått HDDTEMP att fungera i phpsysinfo? |
| 12:36.43 | afaict | i will try now... the following: /boot - EXT2 ... / - XFS and /usr - ZFS. |
| 12:36.51 | afaict | and see if i get more speed |
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| 12:36.54 | wifigeek | version.debian reports 2.6.18-18etch1 |
| 12:37.11 | phorce1 | wifigeek: may have to run "make-kpkg debian" from inside ./linux-source-2.6.18/ to get that. I've already done that and don't recall if it was there before |
| 12:37.17 | wifigeek | aah |
| 12:37.18 | wifigeek | k |
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| 12:38.08 | eifzon | how do I set so my /dev/hda shows its temperature in phpsysinfo? |
| 12:38.18 | wifigeek | phorce1, nothing in it, it says its just a stub file |
| 12:38.21 | phorce1 | wifigeek: AHA -- that file has the info too. Forgot about that. Since I'm on lenny and wanted to work with the same version as linux-image I've screwed around with my source directory a lot. |
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| 12:38.31 | wifigeek | ah k |
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| 12:38.42 | afaict | thanks all who participated. |
| 12:38.53 | afaict | see you folks |
| 12:39.19 | phorce1 | crap -- make modules blew up as I suspected it would. Getting this DVB-S card working is going to be a royal pain. |
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| 12:44.21 | possie | i removed my eth0 from my device, and now i would like to rename eth1 to eth0, how can i do this? |
| 12:44.39 | Jester45 | tried with sudo/root power? |
| 12:44.46 | Jester45 | o wait |
| 12:44.52 | liable | !z25 |
| 12:44.52 | dpkg | it has been said that z25 is as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac> |
| 12:44.56 | Jester45 | lol my window didnt scroll down |
| 12:45.00 | liable | remove that file, reload modules |
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| 12:46.21 | netcrash | phorce1: I have two servers one on debian and another with ubuntu , ubuntu is the one complaining, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding , tank you for the help anyway . |
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| 12:47.01 | possie | liable, thanks man |
| 12:47.07 | liable | np |
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| 12:51.45 | smallGnome | I figured out how to change resolution on the fly with xrandr, but how can I change color depth? Starcraft runs slowly in wine on this box, and I get some messages saying xrandr fails to change color depth to 8. How can I do this manually? |
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| 12:56.50 | gui____ | hi |
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| 12:57.18 | gui____ | I'm searching tools to help me to make a graph about what program take the most load average ? |
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| 12:59.49 | o2T7 | hi. I need to clone an entire sata hd due to errors in it. I had to `tune2fs -c 1 /dev/sda` it, because it increments the number of new errors each session. I don't know if a simple dd would work when there are certain errors |
| 13:00.41 | petemc | dd_rescue |
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| 13:01.35 | o2T7 | gui___: #1 repeatedly use underscores in nick is ugly ;) #2 there are several graphical interfaces to top |
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| 13:01.47 | o2T7 | petemc: Thank you |
| 13:01.50 | petemc | np |
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| 13:03.59 | alex12 | gui____, look at zabbix |
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| 13:05.59 | gui____ | alex12, ok |
| 13:06.34 | eth01 | is there a wgetpaste thing for debian btw? |
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| 13:07.25 | waiter | hello |
| 13:07.38 | petemc | many of the paste sites provids distribution agnostic scripts for submission |
| 13:07.48 | petemc | s/ds/de/ |
| 13:08.10 | aindilis` | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.14 | eth01 | .. |
| 13:08.31 | aindilis` | Suppose someone developed a piece of software that calculated which software you depended on the most. |
| 13:08.52 | tarzeau | aindilis`: popularity-contest ? |
| 13:08.54 | aindilis` | And then you could say pay $80 and it would send it to the appropriate people. |
| 13:09.11 | tarzeau | bam bam bam ba ba bam |
| 13:09.19 | waiter | i have install pdo_oci on my debian and now i have a problem on strating apache, in my log /usr/sbin/apache2: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/pdo_mysql.so: undefined symbol: php_pdo_get_dbh_ce |
| 13:09.23 | aindilis` | It would divide the money you gave to the appropriate teams/people. |
| 13:09.36 | aindilis` | So that way you could easily pay for free software to help encourage it. |
| 13:09.48 | petemc | thats a shit idea |
| 13:09.53 | aindilis` | okay, just wondering |
| 13:10.19 | petemc | well, its a nice sentiment... |
| 13:10.31 | aindilis` | I mean you would choose the amount, but it seems laborious to try to calculate yourself |
| 13:10.40 | tarzeau | petemc: shit idea? as in hard to make real? |
| 13:10.48 | tarzeau | petemc: i'd take alternative paying methods |
| 13:10.50 | petemc | just silly |
| 13:11.00 | tarzeau | like from georgeous 90-60-90 blonde women |
| 13:11.07 | gui____ | alex12, I'll try it thank you |
| 13:11.34 | alex12 | gui____, welcome |
| 13:11.41 | alex12 | it has a lowish overhead |
| 13:11.44 | alex12 | around1% cpu |
| 13:12.18 | gui____ | I search to isolate the most used software on a medium period |
| 13:12.36 | aindilis` | well I'm going to start to develop it, and you can bet that I'm going to screw with the function that allocates $$$ :) |
| 13:12.47 | aindilis` | ;) |
| 13:13.18 | aindilis` | so, popularity contest, any other ideas? |
| 13:13.27 | aindilis` | to get data |
| 13:13.38 | tarzeau | aindilis`: download log files? |
| 13:13.45 | aindilis` | of? |
| 13:13.47 | tarzeau | aindilis`: popcon.debian.org ? you know it? |
| 13:13.52 | tarzeau | aindilis`: the software projects |
| 13:14.01 | aindilis` | oh, I see changelogs, etc. |
| 13:14.55 | aindilis` | where should I hawk this idea? |
| 13:15.00 | aindilis` | I rather like it |
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| 13:15.24 | aindilis` | I'll try #$gnu |
| 13:15.25 | aindilis` | bye |
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| 13:27.05 | InsomniaCity | Hi! My debian box doesn't seem to have any NTPd or settings by default - what do I need to install to keep its clock syncd? |
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| 13:30.12 | mohamed_ | hi, i have "Access Point" connected to router, is it possible for the access point to work as dhcp server, because i need the network connected to access point to be different than connected to the router, anyone can help ? |
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| 13:31.16 | OXIj | anybody with xmonad and dzen2 here? |
| 13:31.21 | petemc | mohamed_: does the "Access Point" run debian ? |
| 13:32.09 | mohamed_ | petemc, Access point is netgear, but because i work with debian this is why i ask here :) |
| 13:32.10 | OXIj | i wish to know how to print current tag in xmonad somwhere on dzen bar |
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| 13:34.49 | aep | so the default debian installation as well as my hosters rescue system (debian too) mount sdb into a raid by default. how can i deativate that? |
| 13:34.56 | aep | i want to access sdb myself. without raid |
| 13:35.06 | aep | unfortunatly i cant uninstall mdadm form the rescue system |
| 13:35.22 | petemc | the debian installer doesnt do that by defauly |
| 13:35.28 | petemc | s/ly/lt/ |
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| 13:35.47 | aep | well.... ok i see |
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| 13:38.48 | chops | Is there any plan for which kernel lenny will ship with? The lenny release plan I've seen indicates a soft freeze in March, and lenny's currently got 2.6.22... is it a fair guess that lenny may ship with 2.6.22, then? |
| 13:40.39 | RichiH | chops: the goal is .24, the fallback is .22, iirc |
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| 13:41.59 | chops | RichiH: k, thanks |
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| 13:42.35 | jelly | InsomniaCity: possibly /msg dpkg ntp |
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| 13:44.41 | dutche- | My machine has now 2gb RAM, its showing on BIOS, but my debian only shows me 1 gb, when I run 'free -m' |
| 13:45.00 | tarzeau | dutche-: which kernel do you have? |
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| 13:45.18 | dutche- | tarzeau, 2.6.22-3-486 |
| 13:45.24 | tarzeau | chops: it's often not hard to build your own kernel and run it |
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| 13:46.16 | dutche- | I run a Sempron 2800+ processor |
| 13:46.16 | Sebi | hi, can you tell me where i can find a timeline to get lenny stable? |
| 13:46.20 | tarzeau | dutche-: maybe you need one with -bigmem ? |
| 13:46.31 | liable | or even a 686 i think |
| 13:46.45 | chops | tarzeau: Yep, I know. I'm just dealing with a kernel bug that's fixed upstream in more recent versions, and I'm wondering how it might be dealt with for the lenny release (the "fix" that works for me is too big to make it into the 2.6.22 stable releases, which would have been the easiest way :-( ). |
| 13:46.46 | tarzeau | that too |
| 13:46.48 | amphi | -686 should be good for up to 4GB IIRC |
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| 13:47.03 | chops | !tell Sebi about wwlr |
| 13:47.04 | tarzeau | chops: which kernel bug is that? |
| 13:47.06 | martian67 | amphi, 54 gigs accually |
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| 13:47.09 | martian67 | *64 |
| 13:47.15 | chops | tarzeau: #466954 |
| 13:47.40 | amphi | martian67: no, I don't think so; HIGHMEM4G is set but not HIGHMEM64G IIRC |
| 13:47.55 | amphi | or whatever the CONFIG_ option is |
| 13:47.56 | hark | martian67: that's -bigmem |
| 13:48.00 | tarzeau | Sebi: well, http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 13:48.06 | tarzeau | Sebi: when the green line hits the ground |
| 13:48.21 | tarzeau | Sebi: it happens once every few years |
| 13:48.28 | chops | tarzeau: Basically, the fix that worked for me locally was to install a whole new version of the open-iscsi modules, which seems rather invasive for a Debian-specific patch. Also, the "fix" breaks infiniband completely. |
| 13:48.40 | Maulkin | !wwlr |
| 13:48.40 | dpkg | Lenny will release WIR; SIYH, hopefully in the second half of 2008. Ask me about <lenny pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/02/msg00002.html |
| 13:48.41 | amphi | martian67: I'm on a 64bit machine here ATM, so I can't check |
| 13:48.52 | smallGnome | I figured out how to change resolution on the fly with xrandr, but how can I change color depth? Starcraft runs slowly in wine on this box, and I get some messages saying xrandr fails to change color depth to 8. How can I do this manually? |
| 13:49.12 | tarzeau | Maulkin: second half of 2008 already? |
| 13:49.14 | Sebi | thanks |
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| 13:49.32 | Maulkin | Does it look like the second half of 2008? |
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| 13:49.46 | tarzeau | Maulkin: not at all |
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| 13:50.25 | chops | tarzeau: And the upstream has said that the new open-iscsi version is too invasive to go back into the 2.6.22 stable series, which would be the most obvious way of getting it into lenny |
| 13:50.39 | tarzeau | chops: i'm glad i don't need open-iscsi :) |
| 13:50.49 | tarzeau | chops: i'm waiting for openafs fixes for my kernels |
| 13:50.57 | tarzeau | nvidia and virtualbox work... |
| 13:51.08 | Maulkin | Lenny isn't currently slated to be released with 2.6.22 |
| 13:51.30 | Maulkin | Considering etch½ is 2.6.24... |
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| 13:51.57 | chops | tarzeau: Yeah, it's kind of a mess. The maintainer is very responsive and is very explicit about it not being stable yet, but it's sort of tantalizingly close to stable on my system at least. I'm putting it into production, at least, is what I'm saying :-). |
| 13:52.01 | tarzeau | any of you tried debian gnu/kfreebsd? |
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| 13:52.16 | tarzeau | chops: what do you use it for exactly? |
| 13:52.40 | chops | tarzeau: I have an external storage appliance (http://www.dell.com/MD3000i) |
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| 13:52.55 | tarzeau | chops: how much terabytes? |
| 13:53.03 | chops | tarzeau: So far 3 |
| 13:53.12 | tarzeau | chops: not too much. and what did it cost? |
| 13:53.14 | chops | tarzeau: But I've only filled 5 of the 15 bays |
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| 13:53.21 | chops | tarzeau: $7000 or so |
| 13:53.22 | tarzeau | chops: and how fast is it reads? writes? gbit? |
| 13:53.54 | chops | tarzeau: Yeah, gigabit. I haven't switched to jumbo frames yet (waiting to make sure it's stable without them :-), but I get about 50-70 MB/s in practice |
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| 13:54.23 | Haris1 | That's half |
| 13:54.35 | tarzeau | chops: what network card? |
| 13:54.47 | chops | tarzeau: I seem to be bottlenecked on the network except when simultaneously reading and writing (it's RAID5); then I get about 20-30 MB/s on each |
| 13:54.59 | tarzeau | Haris1: i've also noticed the nvidia gbit adapters on kfreebsd only give me 50mb/s, while the intel gbits on linux give me 100mb/s |
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| 13:55.16 | chops | tarzeau: bnx2 |
| 13:55.58 | chops | tarzeau: Yeah, something seems wonky about the network adapters in this machine. I've not been able to pin it down in the "Aha! _That's_ it performing slowly!", but I have a consistent feeling that the performance is not what it could be |
| 13:56.31 | tarzeau | chops: lotsa big files or many small ones? |
| 13:56.40 | tarzeau | chops: big files perform much better than lotsa small ones |
| 13:56.55 | chops | Haris1: I say I'm bottlenecked on the network because I have a similar RAID5 array internal to the machine that performs much better (more like 150 MB/s) |
| 13:57.00 | chops | tarzeau: It's mostly big files |
| 13:57.01 | tarzeau | chops: iptraf can show framesizes |
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| 13:57.46 | chops | tarzeau: I'm using iostat and just assuming that request sizes are indicative of the type of load (read-y or seek-y) |
| 13:57.58 | chops | tarzeau: By that metric, my reads are generally plenty big |
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| 13:58.13 | n_np | werd |
| 13:58.19 | n_np | what is the command to configure pppoe / |
| 13:58.21 | n_np | ? |
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| 14:03.36 | cryndes | !pppoe |
| 14:03.37 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pppoe is ppp over ethernet, apt-get install pppoe pppoeconf and read /usr/share/doc/pppoe/README.Debian This is rp-pppoe, but with the scripts rewritten. For PPPOE support in 2.4 kernels enable EXPERIMENTAL Features and go to Network Device Support |
| 14:04.36 | n_np | tnx |
| 14:04.46 | n_np | but becoz my pppoe wasn't working i dont think it has the apt database |
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| 14:07.33 | DawnLight | how can i see current traffic rates in network interfaces? |
| 14:07.56 | n_np | so then wat i would really like to know is how the heck am i supposed to download and install pppoe if i dont have pppoe? |
| 14:07.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | iftop? slurm? |
| 14:08.34 | abrotman | DawnLight: jnettop/ntop |
| 14:08.47 | n_np | gr |
| 14:09.21 | DawnLight | thanks |
| 14:09.57 | n_np | What is the command to get into the debian configuration things? |
| 14:10.02 | n_np | like 'setup' or something like that? |
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| 14:10.38 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure ? |
| 14:11.02 | n_np | i need to get into netconfig |
| 14:11.11 | n_np | i need to set up pppoe or something similair |
| 14:11.14 | n_np | and its just not working |
| 14:11.20 | n_np | I'm wondering how I got this to work in the first place! |
| 14:13.13 | DawnLight | n_np: what do you need to do? |
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| 14:14.02 | chops | n_np: apt offline is a way to install pppoe if the lack of pppoe is preventing you from installing it currently |
| 14:14.13 | n_np | but how? |
| 14:14.19 | n_np | I just need to install my pppoe connection |
| 14:14.30 | liable | get the deb and put it on a usb stick |
| 14:14.45 | DawnLight | n_np: get the pppoeconf package using a web browser |
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| 14:15.36 | DawnLight | n_np: and it's dependencies that you don't have installed |
| 14:15.47 | n_np | my flash disk contains a trucrypt volume |
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| 14:16.01 | n_np | will deb be able to access that? |
| 14:17.01 | Fougner | what's usually missed, when I try to compile, and it tells me a package is missing ? |
| 14:17.12 | Fougner | apt-get install build-essential, and some others? |
| 14:17.31 | chops | Fougner: Use apt-get build-dep |
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| 14:18.50 | Fougner | well, that requires a package, which I want to see dependencies from, right? |
| 14:18.53 | Fougner | chops |
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| 14:19.17 | chops | Fougner: Yes. Installing the dependencies so you can compile a package requires you to specify which package you're trying to compile. |
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| 14:19.43 | chops | Fougner: build-essential is only the most essential packages; it basically gives you a working C/C++ compiler |
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| 14:19.49 | Fougner | ok |
| 14:20.05 | Fougner | chops: thanks.. will see if I can find .. |
| 14:20.05 | Kalisto | gcc tells me /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsocket, what debian package is that in? |
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| 14:20.30 | chops | Kalisto: What package are you trying to compile? Also, /msg dpkg search |
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| 14:21.04 | Kalisto | chops, i have some c socket code. using the flag -lsocket |
| 14:21.23 | Haris1 | any answer for the amavis Q? |
| 14:21.45 | chops | Kalisto: apt-file search socket.so? |
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| 14:24.06 | chops | Kalisto: Hm, I don't see it... aren't sockets just part of libc6? |
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| 14:24.37 | Kalisto | yea it compiles ok just not with the -lsocket flag.. lemme check something |
| 14:25.07 | chops | Kalisto: So if it compiles ok without -lsocket, don't use -lsocket :-) |
| 14:25.41 | sohmestra | I'm attempting to get vsftp + tls working, and thus far, I've had zero success. Plain FTP works just fine, but when I enable_ssl=YES, it breaks. The logs give no indication of an error, I've tried it without any firewall rules on the host or anywhere in between (I control all hops). No dice. Is there anything that I'm missing? |
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| 14:26.33 | sohmestra | err, ssl_enable=YES, rather. |
| 14:26.37 | chops | sohmestra: You could try wireshark and see what stage of the connection is failing |
| 14:26.54 | chops | sohmestra: What error does the client give you? |
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| 14:27.55 | sohmestra | chops: displaying 234 proceed with negotiation, I get: |
| 14:27.56 | sohmestra | ftp3: SSL_connect error error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0) |
| 14:27.56 | sohmestra | : Success |
| 14:28.14 | sohmestra | after a long period of hanging |
| 14:28.15 | chops | sohmestra: Well, that's a client bug, whatever else is going on :-) |
| 14:28.21 | edthefox | hey, i just installed clamav and the clamtk virus scanner, now... How do update the antivirus definitions?? |
| 14:28.59 | Daejeo | any master?? I save iptables on CentOS "/etc/init.d/iptables save active". how can I save on debian? |
| 14:29.27 | sohmestra | chops: hmm. I'll try filezilla, and see if that works any better |
| 14:29.40 | sohmestra | chops: I've been trying ftp-ssl |
| 14:29.43 | amphi | Daejeo: iptables-save > some_file perhaps |
| 14:29.52 | chops | sohmestra: No, I mean I think there is a genuine problem with the connection, but that behavior by the client is not correct whatever else happens |
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| 14:30.34 | Daejeo | amphi: can u elaborate little bit more |
| 14:31.00 | Daejeo | do I need to save in a file? |
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| 14:31.33 | Noboru | hi guys,i need help please, i run 'top', there are too many apache processes,any idea ? |
| 14:31.47 | streuner | Daejeo: man iptables-save |
| 14:33.04 | streuner | Noboru: show us a screenshot |
| 14:34.10 | Noboru | streuner, please wait |
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| 14:35.06 | Noboru | streuner, i dont know how to show you the pic |
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| 14:35.18 | streuner | Noboru: imageshack.us |
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| 14:37.59 | kvm_help_needed | quick question how would I would boot an existing windows installation if it is on a seperate physical drive |
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| 14:38.30 | Noboru | streuner, sorry |
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| 14:38.57 | streuner | Noboru: heh? |
| 14:39.06 | Noboru | streuner, i was contacting the data-centre ,they told me the server is being attcked |
| 14:39.10 | Noboru | attacked |
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| 14:39.32 | streuner | could be, i dont see something in top about apache and its running here too |
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| 14:40.18 | Noboru | streuner, i had too many of them and the cpu usage was 20% |
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| 14:40.37 | Noboru | streuner, now they enabled hardware firewall on that IP of my server |
| 14:40.48 | Noboru | streuner, cpu usage is down to 3% |
| 14:40.55 | Noboru | streuner, they told me syn-170 ack-34 udp-0 icmp-0 rawip-0 frg-0 rst-0 |
| 14:41.03 | Noboru | syn attack ? |
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| 14:42.55 | AWysis | Hi. any good wireless detection program besides knetworkmanager or kwifimanager ? |
| 14:43.13 | abrotman | T_T-noobtears: grub works |
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| 14:43.32 | Noboru | streuner, i mean, how would i found out the source IPs in this matter attcking my server ? |
| 14:43.40 | innocuou1 | How can I find the creation time of a file? |
| 14:43.48 | abrotman | stat maybe |
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| 14:44.02 | abrotman | oh .. nope |
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| 14:44.32 | Zap-W | hey |
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| 14:44.43 | Zap-W | anyone know something like GFS , only for wind0ws |
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| 14:45.37 | Noboru | i hate those attackers. very boring |
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| 14:45.50 | Noboru | and i like the hardware firewall,they do work :) |
| 14:45.53 | dv_ | gfs = girlfriendsex? |
| 14:45.54 | Noboru | thanks streuner . |
| 14:46.02 | T_T-noobtears | Zap-W: have you tried virtualization? |
| 14:46.22 | streuner | Noboru: ask #apache |
| 14:46.28 | Zap-W | T_T-noobtears, yes it runs slow |
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| 14:46.42 | Noboru | streuner, okay :) thanks anyway. |
| 14:46.44 | Zap-W | T_T-noobtears, you mean something like Vbox? |
| 14:46.48 | Zap-W | or vmware |
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| 14:46.57 | T_T-noobtears | vmware |
| 14:47.07 | Zap-W | yes , it's slow atleast vbox is |
| 14:48.29 | abrotman | Zap-W: refresh my memory .. GFS is the filesystem that is basically a SAN? |
| 14:48.34 | abrotman | !gfs |
| 14:48.34 | dpkg | methinks gfs is The Global File System (GFS): it allows multiple Linux machines to share storage devices over a network. See http://www.redhat.com/software/rha/gfs/ or http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/gfs/ |
| 14:48.39 | Zap-W | like SAN filesystem |
| 14:48.50 | abrotman | Zap-W: but you want to access or store on windows ? |
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| 14:49.15 | eifzon | Anyone here got proftd? what to choose within the install to get the service being on 247 |
| 14:49.15 | Zap-W | what you mean |
| 14:49.31 | Zap-W | abrotman, |
| 14:49.47 | abrotman | do you want to access GFS from windows .. or have a GFS-like system on windows ? |
| 14:49.48 | Zap-W | abrotman, store files from windows to a GFS like filesystem |
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| 14:49.52 | eifzon | anyone knows? |
| 14:50.07 | Zap-W | is it possible to access GFS from windows? |
| 14:50.13 | abrotman | Zap-W: uhm .. share it out via samba ? |
| 14:50.14 | Zap-W | just access |
| 14:50.25 | innocuou1 | abrotman: stat does not seem to return creation |
| 14:50.35 | Zap-W | ah yes, but i want to use something like ISCSI or Ata over ethernet |
| 14:50.39 | abrotman | innocuou1: i said that right after i mentioned it |
| 14:50.53 | abrotman | Zap-W: AFS maybe? no idea .. ask ##windows how they do it |
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| 14:54.29 | Zap-W | abrotman, is it possible to boot linux from ISCSI or ATA over ethernet , on a device using GFS? |
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| 15:00.43 | DawnLight | what is gfs... |
| 15:01.28 | abrotman | DawnLight: scroll up .. the bot linked it |
| 15:01.32 | abrotman | Zap-W: no idea |
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| 15:05.16 | DawnLight | Zap-W: check the etherboot project |
| 15:05.51 | DawnLight | it can do magic |
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| 15:08.05 | innocuou1 | 09:43 < abrotman> innocuou1: i said that right after i mentioned it |
| 15:08.09 | innocuou1 | Sorry, was away |
| 15:08.13 | abrotman | s'alright |
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| 15:08.36 | norc | Hello. I didn't get much of an answer in ##linux, so I'm asking here. |
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| 15:08.55 | norc | I have a rss feed with the following uri: foo.org/bar |
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| 15:09.08 | norc | unfortunately my application only accepts uris with a .xml extension |
| 15:09.29 | abrotman | use another application? |
| 15:09.31 | norc | So is there a way to add an alias via the hosts file perhabs so I can enter foo.org/bar.xml but in reality access foo.org/bar ? |
| 15:09.35 | norc | abrotman: without using a httpd ;) |
| 15:09.40 | norc | or another application |
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| 15:09.55 | abrotman | do you control foo.org ? |
| 15:09.59 | norc | nope. |
| 15:10.04 | norc | otherwise I wouldnt be sitting here. |
| 15:10.07 | norc | or rather asking |
| 15:10.28 | abrotman | norc: care to share the URL? |
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| 15:10.43 | norc | abrotman: unfortunately I cant really as this is more private. :| |
| 15:10.52 | ruied | I need mp3lib how can I search for a package that has mp3lib ? |
| 15:11.01 | tarzeau | norc: you can /msg me the url |
| 15:11.11 | abrotman | norc: are you sure it's not foo.org/bar/somethign.xml ? |
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| 15:12.05 | norc | abrotman: actually its more like foo.org/bar.php?lots_of_params |
| 15:12.22 | norc | but this is static for each user |
| 15:12.33 | abrotman | i think your XML reader sucks :) |
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| 15:12.45 | norc | abrotman: indeed, I'm just looking for a workaround :| |
| 15:13.29 | sohmestra | arrgh. vsftp + tls/ssl is broken. |
| 15:13.36 | sohmestra | or i am, one of the two |
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| 15:14.01 | abrotman | norc: use another webserver to do redirects? |
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| 15:14.59 | JP | what the heck is a udeb an what's the command to install it? |
| 15:15.02 | sohmestra | has anyone here ever set up vsftp with ssl successfully? I'd just like to be sure that I'm not completely wasting my time. |
| 15:15.07 | norc | abrotman: I already thought about that, but I'd prefer a way without using a httpd |
| 15:15.12 | norc | just because its not really nice :| |
| 15:15.30 | abrotman | norc: neither is your reader |
| 15:16.03 | abrotman | !udev |
| 15:16.03 | dpkg | udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ or/and http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html. Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of <DevFS>, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.15 in testing and unstable, or if you're having read-only problems with udev, read this for the solution: http://bugs.debian.org/383555, or ask me about <z25>, or <udev rules> |
| 15:16.03 | abrotman | !udeb |
| 15:16.03 | dpkg | udebs are microdebs, "regular debian packages that are not policy compliant. They are used by the new debian-installer project, to build up the actual system that then installs debian." -- thus spake Joey Hess, the great debian genius |
| 15:16.25 | JP | so then netcfg should allready be installed? |
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| 15:17.01 | JP | man |
| 15:17.04 | JP | what the heck |
| 15:17.05 | JP | just tell me |
| 15:17.22 | innocuou1 | Lawl. |
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| 15:19.18 | abrotman | JP: what are you trying to do? |
| 15:19.21 | asarch | Hi guys! |
| 15:19.22 | asarch | There is an application that is for GNOME what KPlato is for KDE, do you know its name? |
| 15:19.28 | abrotman | what is kplato? |
| 15:19.37 | asarch | A project management software |
| 15:19.47 | asarch | It is now part of KOffice |
| 15:19.49 | abrotman | uhm .. |
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| 15:20.13 | asarch | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOffice#KOffice_components |
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| 15:20.35 | abrotman | asarch: Gnome Planner i think is what you mean |
| 15:20.42 | asarch | Yes! |
| 15:20.47 | asarch | Thank you abrotman |
| 15:20.49 | asarch | :-) |
| 15:23.12 | DawnLight | could it be that a smarthost such as gmail would give out an smtp error after the SMTP FROM bacuase it is something other then the user's address? |
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| 15:33.35 | ^shark_ | msg dpkg cisco |
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| 15:34.29 | MolePrince | Howdy, I'm curious if anyone here has Debian running on a handheld device [PDA, umpc, or such]? |
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| 15:35.30 | abrotman | !emdebian |
| 15:35.30 | dpkg | it has been said that emdebian is a project focused on extending Debian's reach into the embedded space; it is an independent project and not formally associated with the Debian distribution [yet]. It aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded Linux. Check out http://www.emdebian.org/ as well as http://familiar.handhelds.org/ or #emdebian on irc.oftc.net |
| 15:35.36 | abrotman | maybe |
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| 15:36.34 | MolePrince | Oh nifty :) |
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| 15:36.58 | Fougner | humph! now I'm tired of this. =( can't find pthread! |
| 15:37.13 | Fougner | that's soo weird |
| 15:37.21 | MolePrince | I'm pondering building a new machine to bring to Layer One this spring ^_^ |
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| 15:38.20 | chebyte | anyone know the system used in kde-look, is a free cms? |
| 15:38.39 | helo | is there some way i can start x extremely early? |
| 15:38.47 | helo | in the init sequence, that is |
| 15:38.58 | Blapto | Just change the number in the name of the script? |
| 15:39.13 | helo | what is the earliest possible time i could start X when booting? |
| 15:39.27 | MolePrince | Hm, the familiar.handhelds.org site doesn't want to load. |
| 15:39.38 | Fougner | MolePrince: I agree ^^ |
| 15:40.33 | chebyte | anyone know the system used in kde-look, is a free cms? |
| 15:41.09 | helo | for example: if some deusche wants to use debian for an embedded device, and would rather the device display its graphical interface early, before everything else in the system has started, what might he do? |
| 15:41.51 | Blapto | Use something like gdb? |
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| 15:42.26 | abrotman | helo: you probably want to look at some of the newer init systems that do dependency checking |
| 15:42.38 | Blapto | gdm, sorry |
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| 15:43.39 | enouf | unusable graphical interface? use a logo :-P |
| 15:43.49 | Blapto | Or bootsplash |
| 15:44.55 | enouf | splashy, whatever the heck that junk is called |
| 15:45.04 | heatman_ | Hello. If i want to install debian on an intel MacBook i should download ia64 or is there actaully a version of debian which support those intel macs? |
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| 15:45.11 | enouf | no no no |
| 15:45.14 | enouf | !ia64 |
| 15:45.14 | dpkg | it has been said that ia64 is (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. see http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's amd64 |
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| 15:45.36 | enouf | heatman_: use i386 or amd64 arch |
| 15:45.38 | MolePrince | I'm tempted to spring for an Asus EEE and try that instead. Has anyone had any luck with those? 2GB hdd seems a bit cramped.. |
| 15:46.04 | enouf | heatman_: see wiki.debian.org/MacBook |
| 15:46.08 | zinx | there are 8GB models |
| 15:46.21 | enouf | and 4, iinm |
| 15:46.34 | zinx | but if you're trying to use it as a desktop replacement, you're trying to use it for the wrong reason |
| 15:46.38 | zinx | and will likely be disappointed |
| 15:46.41 | heatman_ | enouf, ok tyvm |
| 15:46.47 | enouf | np |
| 15:47.53 | MolePrince | zinx: Not at all. I use my laptop as a typewriter and netstumbler primarily. |
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| 15:48.49 | zinx | it'll work for that |
| 15:49.12 | zinx | though the keyboard is small, might take some getting used to ;) |
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| 15:50.56 | expose | When running a linux kernel under xen or some other form of virtualization i am not able to use X11 DRM anymore, right? |
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| 15:51.57 | petemc | drm has multiple meanings |
| 15:52.06 | mmlj4 | all of them bad, I presume |
| 15:52.11 | petemc | no |
| 15:52.15 | petemc | !drm |
| 15:52.15 | dpkg | methinks drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Restrictions Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp |
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| 15:52.30 | expose | Well - that is why i wrote X11 as well |
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| 15:53.10 | expose | i am talking about the hw acceleration of the drivers for intel onboard gfx. |
| 15:53.31 | wad | Where is some good documentation about how "make" works? |
| 15:53.47 | azeem | wad: in the make manual |
| 15:53.50 | mmlj4 | well, i'd say probably not |
| 15:54.10 | mmlj4 | wad: "man make" |
| 15:54.31 | azeem | actually, the make manual is probably better suited |
| 15:54.38 | wad | azeem: "man make", seriously? I've found that the man pages are great for showing you technically how to use a command, but are shy on teaching you how you should use it. |
| 15:54.50 | enouf | expose: i don't even think VMware does 3D acceleration |
| 15:55.10 | Fougner | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.10 | Fougner | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.10 | Fougner | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.19 | Fougner | what's the problem? :P |
| 15:55.19 | wad | !make |
| 15:55.19 | dpkg | hmm... make is a tool to build your project. The dependencies to build your project is specified usually in a Makefile. Makefile may have targets, which can be invoked by make <targetname>. e.g. make love. For more, man make. |
| 15:55.26 | azeem | wad: install make-doc (possibly from unstable), run "info make" |
| 15:55.29 | azeem | eh |
| 15:55.30 | expose | enouf: so there is no floss virtualization that could do that, right? |
| 15:55.31 | azeem | possibly from non-free |
| 15:55.34 | wad | ah! Thanks, azeem |
| 15:55.39 | enouf | nor USB 2.0 for that matter - maybe the $$$ version? |
| 15:55.57 | azeem | Fougner: you're trying to install a Ubuntu package on Debian |
| 15:56.07 | enouf | expose: well, not that i'm aware of |
| 15:56.34 | wad | Ah, this looks perfect. Thanks, azeem! |
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| 15:57.29 | Fougner | azeem, woops, am I ? |
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| 15:57.41 | azeem | Fougner: apparently so |
| 15:57.44 | Fougner | well,, maybe should try compiling.. |
| 15:57.47 | azeem | Fougner: which command did you run? |
| 15:57.54 | Fougner | aptitude install verlihub |
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| 15:58.29 | azeem | post the output of "apt-cache policy verlihub" to a pastebin |
| 15:58.30 | azeem | !paste |
| 15:58.30 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 15:58.34 | expose | enouf: Good. And the only hypervisor that comes with vanilla at this time is kvm? |
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| 15:59.10 | enouf | expose: hrm, not sure - try ##kernel, but i know i've seen lguest and xen options in vanilla |
| 15:59.56 | expose | Okay. thanks |
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| 16:00.07 | Fougner | azeem, http://paste.debian.net/50104 |
| 16:00.14 | enouf | likely yes though, is my best guest http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_24#head-c21c5d9ec19c484ff4c789d1b8f509d196adce09http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_24#head-c21c5d9ec19c484ff4c789d1b8f509d196adce09 |
| 16:00.16 | enouf | gah |
| 16:01.04 | azeem | Fougner: so apparently the packages provided by the verlihub project are for Ubuntu and not for Debian |
| 16:01.06 | enouf | http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_23 for xen and lguest info |
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| 16:04.05 | expose | enouf: thanks |
| 16:04.30 | Fougner | azeem, that's weird.. well, when I compile from source, I get this message |
| 16:04.31 | Fougner | checking whether pthreads work with -mt... no |
| 16:04.31 | Fougner | Sorry, cannot currently work without pthreads |
| 16:05.16 | mmlj4 | wait... I thought this was #NetBSD for a minute |
| 16:07.50 | gentgeen__ | I am a bit confused and hope someone can help me out... my /etc/logrotate.conf shows "weekly" and "rotate 4" which (from the comments) tells me keep 4 weeks worth |
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| 16:08.03 | wtf | hiho |
| 16:08.07 | gentgeen__ | but the oldest syslog.*.gz is syslog.6.gz and is dated 7 days ago |
| 16:08.17 | gentgeen__ | ??? |
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| 16:09.37 | Polleke | gentgeen__, syslog logs are not done through logrotate. Bit confussing yes |
| 16:09.58 | Polleke | gentgeen__, check your /etc/cron.* |
| 16:09.58 | gentgeen__ | Well... that makes sense then |
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| 16:10.12 | gentgeen__ | thanks |
| 16:10.14 | gentgeen__ | will do |
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| 16:12.16 | ferret_0567 | dpkg: find linux/config.h |
| 16:12.27 | ferret_0567 | thank you! |
| 16:12.43 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'linux/config.h' (2): (/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux/config.h) in devel/ruby1.8-dev ;; (/usr/i386-uclibc-linux/include/linux/config.h) in libdevel/libuclibc-dev. |
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| 16:12.51 | wtf | I'm in trouble, near dead... when I exec compiz I get that theres no manageable screen. I've been looking for this error and I've found out that its caused if xserver-glx is missing(in ubuntu). Currently Im over lenny and there's no package with this name. Finally I have 3d accel and Im over ppc. |
| 16:14.16 | helo | can you have two gateway routes that serve the same destinations, so that if one of them stops working the other will be used? |
| 16:14.35 | chops | ferret_0567: What are you trying to do? Using those files will lead you astray for 90% of what you might want linux/config.h for... |
| 16:15.03 | Maulkin | helo: look at vrp |
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| 16:15.16 | Polleke | wtf, remote guess: it might be libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 16:15.31 | Maulkin | helo: and try ##networking |
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| 16:15.58 | chops | ferret_0567: Sorry, please retype if you answered me while I was away |
| 16:16.07 | wtf | I've it installed |
| 16:16.08 | wtf | : / |
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| 16:16.47 | debian-is-me | Hello |
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| 16:17.24 | Roge | debi, oh debi .. wont you ease my restless mine, debi oh debi, tell me you are mine |
| 16:18.21 | wtf | :D |
| 16:19.08 | netcrash | Hello , Trying to install hearbeat-2 but crm_mon doesn't get installed where should this path be ? |
| 16:19.40 | Roge | netcrash |
| 16:19.42 | Roge | just sing |
| 16:19.46 | Roge | debi, oh debi .. wont you ease my restless mind, debi oh debi, tell me you are mine |
| 16:20.00 | debian-is-me | I have ssh to my debian box, its screen is messed up |
| 16:20.03 | debian-is-me | Howtofix? |
| 16:20.38 | chops | debian-is-me: Do you know what happened when the screen stopped working? What is "messed up"? What Debian release? What video card? |
| 16:20.48 | chops | debian-is-me: Is there anything interesting in the kernel or X log? |
| 16:20.51 | drwahl | debian-is-me: "the screen is messed up" is a little vague... |
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| 16:21.07 | wtf | thanks 4 all |
| 16:21.07 | debian-is-me | chops: Nvidia, etch, it says signal out of range and som strangte numbers. |
| 16:21.08 | drwahl | debian-is-me: also, is there anything in dmesg that may point to the issue? |
| 16:21.08 | wtf | c u |
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| 16:22.00 | debian-is-me | chops: I guess I was carying it or something... |
| 16:22.16 | chops | debian-is-me: Binary driver or free? |
| 16:22.31 | debian-is-me | chops: Not completly sure... |
| 16:22.40 | chops | debian-is-me: What resolution is it attempting to set (you can see from the X log)? |
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| 16:22.49 | chops | debian-is-me: Or, what are the "strange numbers"? |
| 16:23.02 | chops | debian-is-me: Carrying it? |
| 16:23.25 | Enverex | Hrm, when I plug in my Flash card reader, it used to "just work" and mount itself. Now it just says "Access denied" when I plug it in saying something about HAL, DBus and Freedesktop. Is there a quick fix for that? |
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| 16:23.56 | debian-is-me | chops: It is 8Ak and 97hz |
| 16:24.13 | debian-is-me | chops: Moving the screen and or computer, not sure... |
| 16:24.28 | chops | debian-is-me: Is the cable hooked up properly? Is the monitor set to the correct input? |
| 16:25.01 | debian-is-me | I shoved it up the right hole if thats what youre thinking of... |
| 16:25.19 | chops | debian-is-me: Who moved the computer? You or someone else? |
| 16:25.28 | debian-is-me | me |
| 16:25.38 | chops | And you don't remember which thing you picked up and moved? :-) |
| 16:25.51 | debian-is-me | No, have lots of computers. they lookalike |
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| 16:27.14 | debian-is-me | What proceses to kill? |
| 16:27.30 | chops | debian-is-me: I don't think killing processes will help... I've asked a few questions that you still haven't answered. |
| 16:27.40 | abrotman | typical ... |
| 16:27.47 | debian-is-me | Witch ones? |
| 16:27.57 | debian-is-me | abrotman: regular problem? |
| 16:28.07 | chops | (11:24:23 AM) chops: debian-is-me: Is the monitor set to the correct input? |
| 16:28.16 | chops | (11:22:34 AM) chops: debian-is-me: What resolution is it attempting to set (you can see from the X log)? |
| 16:28.26 | debian-is-me | chops: Yes |
| 16:28.42 | debian-is-me | chops: Where? |
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| 16:29.27 | chops | debian-is-me: I don't happen to know offhand. One second. I'll shell into my home machine and check what the output looks like. |
| 16:29.28 | debian-is-me | xorg.conf? |
| 16:29.32 | chops | debian-is-me: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 16:30.23 | chops | debian-is-me: Hm, for me there's a line "(II) intel(0): Output VGA using initial mode 1024x768"; for you it may be different |
| 16:30.23 | Falkon | Am I correct in seeing that lenny CD install is currently broken? |
| 16:30.41 | debian-is-me | Link to pastebin? |
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| 16:31.54 | chops | !tell debian-is-me about pastebin |
| 16:31.57 | debian-is-me | (II) NV(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) |
| 16:32.07 | debian-is-me | Is that important? |
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| 16:32.31 | chops | debian-is-me: It's not; you want to look for the line for the resolution that it _is_ using |
| 16:32.52 | debian-is-me | It was about 2 pages like that! |
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| 16:33.52 | abiazon | #debian |
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| 16:34.10 | debian-is-me | chops: Cant find it |
| 16:34.20 | abiazon | opa... pessoal alguem conhece um client da novell para usar com o kde ? |
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| 16:34.47 | ceil420 | where's the inittab file where i can change the default runlevel? |
| 16:35.08 | SlayerXP | ceil420: where do most system configuration files lives? |
| 16:35.10 | Polleke | ceil420, at a very suprising place |
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| 16:35.31 | debian-is-me | abiazon: Españole? |
| 16:35.31 | ceil420 | SlayerXP, Polleke, i'm on Xubuntu, my friend's on Debian. Ubuntu doesn't have /etc/inittab |
| 16:35.47 | debian-is-me | ceil420: Then ask in #ubuntu |
| 16:35.53 | abiazon | portugues ! |
| 16:35.58 | ceil420 | debian-is-me, my friend is the one that needs to know |
| 16:36.01 | ceil420 | else i would |
| 16:36.23 | ceil420 | is it /etc/inittab in Debian? |
| 16:36.51 | Polleke | ceil420, it is... how hard is that to check? |
| 16:37.06 | ceil420 | Polleke, excrutiatingly, seeing as i don't have access to his system |
| 16:37.35 | petemc | ceil420: /etc/inittab does exist in debian, but changing runlevels might not have the effect you think it will |
| 16:37.55 | grendal_prime | in aptitude usually under the tasks/end_user/ there is a kde-desktop section. For some reason its not there now. is there a way to get the tasks section updated? |
| 16:38.06 | ceil420 | petemc, i want it to start up in CLI instead of X, as per nvidia's instructions when installing a new driver |
| 16:38.13 | debian-is-me | chops: http://paste.lisp.org/display/56566 There is the logfile! |
| 16:38.17 | petemc | ceil420: thats not how debian works |
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| 16:38.27 | petemc | thats for red hat clones |
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| 16:38.35 | ceil420 | oh :x |
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| 16:38.41 | ceil420 | well how is it done in debian? |
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| 16:38.47 | petemc | ceil420: are you using debian or ubuntu? |
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| 16:38.59 | ceil420 | my friend is using Debian; i'm relaying instructions to him |
| 16:39.10 | ktwilight[m] | i've got a machine that doesn't have internet connection, and would like to install minimum debian including extra admin tools onto it, would downloading CD1 sufficient? or should i get the entire DVD pack? |
| 16:39.28 | petemc | ceil420: tell your friend to read the debian wiki page that covers nvidia |
| 16:39.42 | Falkon | Does anyone know about SSL-cert not configurng on current Lenny install? |
| 16:39.59 | petemc | !cd contents |
| 16:40.00 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. Also ask me about <cd contents sarge>. |
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| 16:40.11 | Polleke | Falkon, define "not configuring" |
| 16:40.18 | ktwilight[m] | petemc, aha, thanks :) was looking at the wrong place |
| 16:40.30 | debian-is-me | http://paste.lisp.org/display/56566 Any errors inside this? |
| 16:40.31 | petemc | Falkon: others have mentioned the issue in the past few days |
| 16:40.33 | Falkon | Just hangs saying "Configuring ssl-cert" every time |
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| 16:41.12 | Falkon | The testing install is currently broken, so I'm downloading a minimal stable and updating. It's going to take forever, but whatever works |
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| 16:42.04 | eifzon | hmm, I got my vsftpd up and running today, and I want to do so the User just can access my /var/ftp folder, i have uncommented chroot_list_enable=YES and chroot_local_user=YES, what have I done wrong? |
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| 16:42.27 | debian-is-me | chops: Still here? |
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| 16:42.56 | grendal_prime | in aptitude usually under the tasks/end_user/ there is a kde-desktop section. For some reason its not there now. is there a way to get the tasks section updated? |
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| 16:44.05 | chops | debian-is-me: Yes. So it looks like you're using 1024x768 ("Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024)"), which any monitor should be able to support. If you reboot, does the problem go away? Can you see the boot process and BIOS screen and whatnot? |
| 16:44.11 | smr | just installed lenny and xen. where do I find dom0 kernel? |
| 16:44.21 | scruffy_ | nothing I find in google is letting me successfully convert a .mov to .avi or .mpeg. I've got mplayer and ffmpeg installed. With ffmpeg, I get Unsupported codec (id=86018) for input stream #0.0. |
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| 16:44.40 | debian-is-me | Testing a cold reboot. |
| 16:45.03 | scruffy_ | note, from dpkg -l -> ii w32codecs |
| 16:45.08 | debian-is-me | Nothing on the screen exsept the stupid warning! |
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| 16:45.53 | debian-is-me | What should I do? |
| 16:46.07 | debian-is-me | This is my once exspencive crt screen! |
| 16:46.12 | chops | debian-is-me: If you don't see the BIOS boot up screen, your problem is unrelated to Debian |
| 16:46.37 | debian-is-me | Can debian fix it or is my computer downgraded to an server? |
| 16:46.40 | chops | debian-is-me: Check your cables again, check that your monitor is displaying the correct input. |
| 16:46.48 | debian-is-me | How do I start samba? |
| 16:46.54 | chops | debian-is-me: Can Debian fix your BIOS boot screen not displaying? No. No, it cannot. |
| 16:47.53 | eifzon | anyone here that has big knowledge about vsftpd and could help me with my question? |
| 16:48.19 | debian-is-me | chops: How do I start samba? |
| 16:48.24 | ruied | I've installed postgresql-8.1 but when I start the service /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.1 start the service is not listening to a port... is this normal? |
| 16:48.37 | chops | debian-is-me: /etc/init.d/samba start |
| 16:48.37 | zamuro | !tell eifzon about anyone |
| 16:49.09 | SlayerXP | ruied: yes |
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| 16:50.45 | debian-is-me | can I make an non cryptic command do it? |
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| 16:51.30 | ruied | Slap_Stick, how can I set postgres to listen to a port ? the postgres.conf has already the port 5433 |
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| 16:52.07 | alex12 | ruied, isnt there a postgres channel? |
| 16:52.17 | chops | debian-is-me: Yes. Put 'alias Please_Start_Samba_For_Me="sudo /etc/init.d/samba start"' in your bash profile |
| 16:52.25 | alex12 | ruied, #postgres |
| 16:52.39 | ruied | alex12, postgres channel? |
| 16:52.39 | ruied | ok |
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| 16:54.27 | BUMBACL0T | This sort of network installation process requires Internet access via Ethernet or wireless (possibly using a PCMCIA card in your laptop). Unfortunately, it does not support internal ISDN cards. |
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| 16:54.52 | BUMBACL0T | does that mean integrated/built-in cards aren't supported? |
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| 16:56.11 | BUMBACL0T | nvm |
| 16:56.20 | jim | BUMBACL0T: you use isdn?! |
| 16:57.36 | BUMBACL0T | no, i missread that, sorry |
| 16:58.07 | jim | ok, so would you now have a different question? |
| 16:58.27 | BUMBACL0T | no, clicked on the wrong link |
| 16:58.40 | jim | ahh, gotcha. installing today? |
| 16:58.54 | BUMBACL0T | yeah, in vmware though |
| 16:59.15 | BUMBACL0T | haven't touched debian in a while |
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| 16:59.31 | jim | how does vmware provide networking to a vmware client? |
| 16:59.44 | BUMBACL0T | 4 months to be exact, and im missing it |
| 17:00.06 | jim | what were you doing for that time? |
| 17:00.14 | BUMBACL0T | nothing |
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| 17:00.35 | BUMBACL0T | downloading the netinstall iso right now |
| 17:00.36 | BUMBACL0T | :D |
| 17:01.33 | BUMBACL0T | i just want to challenge myself again, because windows makes you forget stuff, you know |
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| 17:02.04 | jim | yeah well... linux can be challenging... |
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| 17:03.06 | lkthomas | anyone use haproxy ? |
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| 17:03.36 | SlayerXP | lkthomas: no, no-one has, can or will ever use haproxy. |
| 17:03.58 | jim | even the chickens and eggs that use haproxy |
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| 17:05.02 | lkthomas | I want to know how to define an exclude dir on haproxy ? |
| 17:05.15 | lkthomas | I got a dir which will mess up on load balancing situation |
| 17:05.18 | lkthomas | so I have to exclude it |
| 17:05.20 | lkthomas | any idea ? |
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| 17:05.45 | jim | not me personally |
| 17:05.53 | jim | oops, gotta move the car |
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| 17:11.14 | Laney | eifzon: Don't suppose you got anywhere? I think I'm having the same problem as you |
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| 17:11.32 | Haris | Hello people |
| 17:11.33 | eifzon | Laney: really? |
| 17:11.42 | Haris | How do I totally reset my network communication? |
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| 17:12.12 | Haris | one of my interfaces is configured and up, but when I do a ifdown on it, I get; |
| 17:12.12 | Haris | # ifdown eth1 |
| 17:12.12 | Haris | ifdown: interface eth1 not configured |
| 17:12.18 | jim | I've seen /etc/network/interface files which specify dns servers... how would I go about that if the interface in question is dhcp? |
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| 17:12.39 | Justin | Haris: configured manually, or with /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 17:12.46 | abrotman | jim: just put them in your resolv.conf and set the dhclient not to get dns |
| 17:13.09 | Haris | Justin: Normal, through /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:13.29 | jim | I installed resolvconf package, not sure what that does yet |
| 17:13.39 | Laney | eifzon: No sorry it wasn't you, haha. It was sohmestra! |
| 17:13.40 | Haris | This is a nat box with 2 ISPs comming to it |
| 17:13.53 | Justin | Haris: try ifdown eth1;ifconfig eth1 down;ifup eth1 |
| 17:13.55 | jim | abrotman: well I could do that... |
| 17:14.06 | eifzon | Laney: lol |
| 17:14.10 | jim | that would be the simplest approach I suppose |
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| 17:15.07 | jim | but still I'm curious about how the syntax of the interfaces file can be extended |
| 17:15.13 | Haris | Justin: That! (ifconfig eth1 down) did something |
| 17:15.23 | Laney | sohmestra: Did you manage to get anywhere? |
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| 17:15.28 | Haris | checking (seems to be ok now) |
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| 17:16.31 | Haris | Ok |
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| 17:18.42 | jim | abrotman: here is my assumption so far: since nothing is mentioned in the man page for interfaces about specifying dns and I've seen examples of interfaces files which do specify dns, it's either an undocumented feature of the interfaces file (therefore a documentation bug), or it's possible to extend the syntax of that file |
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| 17:18.59 | abrotman | jim: did you check the SEE ALSO ? |
| 17:19.09 | jim | (man 5 interfaces on my system claims it's from 2004) |
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| 17:20.33 | jim | well it turns out that I only saw the first paragraph of the SEE ALSO... |
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| 17:21.13 | abrotman | what does that mean ? |
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| 17:23.02 | netcrash | How can I determine if the system is using UTC or GMT ? |
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| 17:25.52 | abrotman | netcrash: type 'date' ? |
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| 17:25.55 | ApOgEE- | yo piju |
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| 17:26.02 | jim | abrotman: that I didn't (until you suggested it) read the paragraphs following the first one... I just got finished reading the examples |
| 17:26.25 | abrotman | oh |
| 17:26.44 | jim | nothing about specifying dns server there. |
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| 17:27.02 | netcrash | abrotman: date in the system is ok , but using date function from php I get a hour late |
| 17:27.12 | netcrash | "late" one more hour |
| 17:27.30 | ruied | I've installed postgres (apt-get install postgres-8.1) but it doesn't listen to port 5432. Is this normal in debian? I would like to have postgres to listen to it's default port... |
| 17:27.39 | abrotman | netcrash: sounds like a ##php question .. maybe it has a different setting |
| 17:28.00 | abrotman | ruied: by default .. yes .. it's in one of the conf files to listen on external IP |
| 17:28.01 | piju | ApOgEE-; :) |
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| 17:28.27 | netcrash | abrotman: will try, thanks |
| 17:28.30 | jim | ruied: if you have more than one version of postgres installed from debian packages, it will bump the port |
| 17:29.07 | ruied | abrotman, but it should listen to localhost... and it isn't... |
| 17:29.18 | abrotman | ruied: it's listening on sockets .. which is fine |
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| 17:30.13 | jim | (example... you install pg default, probably 7.4.something, it assigns port 5432, you then install pg 8.whatever, it sees 5432 already taken, it then uses 5433) |
| 17:30.51 | jim | ruied: besides, you can create logins for applications that set PGPORT |
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| 17:32.01 | gentgeen__ | Back to my logrotate.conf question.... if I have a section for "/var/log/mail.log" that has "daily" and "rotate 28" that will keep 28 days worth of logs around right? |
| 17:32.20 | abrotman | jim: did you actually read the question? |
| 17:32.27 | abrotman | gentgeen__: should .. yes |
| 17:32.32 | gentgeen__ | correction.. worth of mail.log logs |
| 17:32.33 | ruied | abrotman, jim shouldn't it be listening on localhost 5432? my hpa_conf has: host all all 127.0.0.1/32 md5 |
| 17:32.41 | gentgeen__ | abrotman, great ... thanks |
| 17:32.48 | abrotman | ruied: netstat -an | grpe 5432 .. is it there ? |
| 17:32.51 | abrotman | grep |
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| 17:33.22 | jim | not sure, maybe |
| 17:33.27 | Lectus | can the debian KDE CD be used to do net inst too? |
| 17:34.04 | jim | abrotman: yes, I guess I responded with the most typical problem in that area |
| 17:34.07 | abrotman | choose http sources |
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| 17:34.12 | abrotman | jim: uh .. you sure about that? |
| 17:34.19 | jelly-ho | Lectus: yes |
| 17:34.21 | jim | well it was for me :) |
| 17:34.27 | ruied | hmm??? now I have it running... didn't know what happened.... nmap now shows the port... |
| 17:34.38 | ruied | abrotman, netstat also displays the port... |
| 17:34.40 | jim | what did you do? :) |
| 17:34.59 | ruied | sill didn't know what went wrong... |
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| 17:35.15 | jim | btw, did you alter your hpa_conf? |
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| 17:35.46 | amimusa | hello, i just installed a new debian and instead start the system i have the grub command line .... what can i do ? |
| 17:35.47 | amimusa | thanks |
| 17:36.22 | ruied | no, not running... wrong ssh window, my ubuntu laptop has this running, but not the debian one.... |
| 17:36.28 | jim | amimusa: you could start by trying to boot it manually... is this a separate computer? |
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| 17:37.05 | ruied | abrotman, no 5432 port in netstat... |
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| 17:37.32 | jim | ruied: did you restart pg within say the last 3 mins or so? |
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| 17:38.06 | abrotman | ruied: is it even running ? |
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| 17:38.19 | amimusa | no i am in the box |
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| 17:38.26 | amimusa | grub > |
| 17:38.28 | abrotman | ruied: netstat -an | grep 5432 on my system returns two lines |
| 17:38.33 | amimusa | waiting i type something |
| 17:38.35 | jim | amimusa: so you see that right now? |
| 17:38.45 | jim | ok, type: root ( |
| 17:38.47 | amimusa | why is not linux start ? |
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| 17:38.52 | jim | don't hit enter |
| 17:39.00 | jim | but hit tab a coupla times |
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| 17:39.19 | jim | amimusa: not configured properly |
| 17:39.32 | jim | yet :) |
| 17:39.34 | amimusa | i have hd0 hd1 and hd2 |
| 17:39.38 | abrotman | !es |
| 17:39.38 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:39.45 | ^shark1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.54 | amimusa | root(hd0, ... no options jim |
| 17:39.57 | jim | ok, cool. |
| 17:40.07 | abrotman | ^shark1: does it run debian ? |
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| 17:40.15 | jim | so if you put root (hd0, |
| 17:40.20 | jim | and hit tab, |
| 17:40.23 | amimusa | i have no option |
| 17:40.27 | jim | how many partitions do you see? |
| 17:40.31 | jim | none?? |
| 17:40.32 | amimusa | none |
| 17:40.36 | ^shark1 | abrotman: yes my vmware machine is ion etch |
| 17:40.54 | jim | ok, so we need to figure out your device map and where your stuff is |
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| 17:41.10 | amimusa | wow jim u have a good knowledge |
| 17:41.17 | jim | well |
| 17:41.20 | amimusa | if u know how to di this ... |
| 17:41.21 | ruied | abrotman, 0 lines... I'me removing and purging everything related to postgres... installing again... |
| 17:41.24 | jim | it's just that I use grub :) |
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| 17:41.35 | jim | you kinda have to have some knowledge |
| 17:41.48 | jim | the thing is, the tab key in the grub shell is SO useful |
| 17:42.00 | abrotman | ^shark1: i meant the phone |
| 17:42.09 | amimusa | grub thinks there is any partition |
| 17:42.19 | amimusa | but i don't know why the installation fails |
| 17:42.29 | ruied | argh... not working... |
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| 17:42.41 | ^shark1 | its a cisco 7912g Ip phone and #cisco cant help |
| 17:43.10 | jim | ruied: just a small word of caution which can be ignored if you don't have data in those databases yet... be careful and make some dumps |
| 17:43.46 | jim | amimusa, hmm, the installation failed? |
| 17:43.53 | amimusa | grun at least |
| 17:43.55 | amimusa | grub |
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| 17:44.15 | amimusa | can u help me to install grub ? |
| 17:44.17 | decan | hi everybody |
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| 17:45.03 | jim | amimusa, did it say something when you installed? |
| 17:45.29 | amimusa | all was apparently normal |
| 17:45.35 | jim | amimusa: you have grub installed, and it's booting... |
| 17:45.42 | amimusa | just it says there is only one OS |
| 17:45.42 | ruied | jim, I don't have any data in postgres... thanks for the advice anyway! ;) |
| 17:45.47 | amimusa | yeah i keno |
| 17:45.48 | amimusa | mistake |
| 17:45.50 | decan | please help me: I'm trying to install debian ,but in the middle of the instalation there is an error: segmentation fault, why?? |
| 17:45.52 | jim | in fact it's successfully getting to the command line |
| 17:45.52 | amimusa | i mean the system |
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| 17:46.05 | jim | I can't at this moment |
| 17:46.07 | jim | but |
| 17:46.15 | maligor | decan, what installer are you using? |
| 17:46.36 | decan | maligor, default |
| 17:46.42 | maligor | decan, you mean stable? |
| 17:46.56 | jim | you have to find out what partitions are on which drive (you have three drives?) |
| 17:47.10 | decan | maligor, yes |
| 17:47.29 | maligor | decan, does it repeat at the exact same point? |
| 17:47.58 | jim | amimusa: your system is there and installed... it's just that it doesn't boot automatically at the moment |
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| 17:48.27 | amimusa | ok, can u help me to achieve this ? |
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| 17:48.37 | decan | maligor, this time happens at the 23%, when is installing base system, |
| 17:48.49 | maligor | hmm.. interesting, could be an io error |
| 17:48.55 | jim | amimusa: for now, I can only suggest you play with the grub command line and ask specific questions as they come up |
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| 17:49.14 | jim | someone here can help most likely, there is also #grub |
| 17:49.20 | maligor | decan, or faulty memory I guess, dunno how random a read only would be tho |
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| 17:49.52 | maligor | decan, does it give any other errors in the log? |
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| 17:50.23 | craigevil | decan: hardware, memory or perhaps even a bad burn, i would try a livecd and run memtest |
| 17:50.52 | decan | maligor, no, only that, so before this the system is bloqued. Maybe something related to HD or the Motherboard? |
| 17:51.35 | decan | craigevil, yes I did, with a liveCD but didn't work.. |
| 17:51.44 | dutchfish | decan, if you disk support smart you can use smartmontools too find out |
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| 17:52.02 | abrotman | decan: maybe try another mirror ? |
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| 17:52.15 | craigevil | decan: memtest wouldnt run? |
| 17:52.26 | SexyKen | Hey guys - What is the "standard system" in tasksel - it's just base, or is it additional? |
| 17:52.43 | amimusa | this is not too much help jim |
| 17:52.57 | decan | craigevil, uhmm I'll try a memtest |
| 17:53.07 | BudgetDedicated | Hi I was wondering if anyone knows how to connect a real serial port (like /dev/ttyS0) to ajaxterm to make the console interactive via a webinterface. I'm trying to combine ajaxterm with socat but so far had not any working results |
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| 17:54.10 | decan | dutchfish, what smartmontools is for? |
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| 17:55.31 | dutchfish | decan, to detect diskerrors in time |
| 17:55.39 | dutchfish | BudgetDedicated, http://rubyforge.org/projects/ruby-serialport/ |
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| 17:56.14 | decan | dutchfish, I'll try this too, |
| 17:56.49 | decan | thanks guys for your help........see ya soon |
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| 17:58.01 | BudgetDedicated | dutchfish: that looks promissing although we do not use ruby, but it may be worth the effort of doing so |
| 17:58.31 | Slap_Stick | with ssh, what's the default file for key exchange? i.e. say i want to have 4 different keys for different boxes from this machine, when i execute ssh from this local machine, what is the file it reads? id_rsa ? |
| 17:58.48 | dutchfish | BudgetDedicated, or maybe this one: http://rubyforge.org/projects/termios/ |
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| 17:59.35 | kshah | var/lib/dpkg is locked, I don't know why. I read the channel topic and I tried to install the keyring, but I get the same error |
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| 17:59.58 | kshah | I am getting the no_pubkey error as well |
| 18:00.05 | kshah | warning rather |
| 18:00.13 | drwahl | kshah: ps aux | grep apt |
| 18:00.43 | kshah | drwahl: two processes, apt-get update, and grep apt |
| 18:00.47 | kshah | you want me to kill the first? |
| 18:01.03 | Slap_Sti1k | anyone? can i append new key files generated to id_rsa ? |
| 18:01.16 | mmlj4 | sure |
| 18:01.21 | Slap_Sti1k | cool |
| 18:01.22 | mmlj4 | use '>>' |
| 18:01.25 | drwahl | the reason dpkg is locked is because apt-get update is trying to use dpkg to do something. (the second process is the command you just ran) |
| 18:01.30 | mmlj4 | or, wait |
| 18:01.47 | mmlj4 | you want to append them to the file id_rsa? |
| 18:01.53 | drwahl | if you kill it, you might interupt something |
| 18:01.55 | mmlj4 | i overparsed your question |
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| 18:02.27 | mmlj4 | i'm thinking of other files in ~/.ssh |
| 18:02.41 | \amethyst | Slap_Sti1k: why do you want to do that, exactly? |
| 18:02.43 | Slap_Sti1k | i just want to have several keys for different boxes to remote to from this box? so i have ran ssh-keygen 4 times, with 4 different keys and pub keys key1 key1.pub key2 key2.pub etc |
| 18:03.08 | mmlj4 | over my head, sorry |
| 18:03.09 | kshah | drwahl: that would make sense I think, I just ran upgrade / update, since I haven't updated this box in a bit |
| 18:03.11 | \amethyst | Slap_Sti1k: id_rsa should contain only one private key |
| 18:03.11 | Slap_Sti1k | i want to put key1.pub in the authorized keys file on server1, key2.pub on server 2 etc |
| 18:03.15 | drwahl | kshah: but if you know it is ok, then go ahead |
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| 18:03.27 | Slap_Sti1k | ok well i dont want to specify each key file every time i ssh to a particular server |
| 18:03.28 | jim | you could put the keys in different files... |
| 18:03.53 | Slap_Sti1k | i want to just type ssh -l user servername and it do the key exchange automatically and log me in |
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| 18:04.07 | \amethyst | Slap_Sti1k: list multiple IdentityFile entries in your ssh_config |
| 18:04.10 | drwahl | kshah: ya, apt is the one that has dpkg locked up, which is fine. it will release it when its done (if all goes as planned) |
| 18:04.18 | \amethyst | Slap_Sti1k: then it will try them in order |
| 18:04.21 | Slap_Sti1k | ok |
| 18:04.31 | drwahl | kshah: if you are able to, just let apt finish its thing (it might be prompting for something, so keep an eye on it) |
| 18:04.31 | Slap_Sti1k | cool thanks, is there no other way - what if you didn't have root to the box? |
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| 18:04.42 | Slap_Sti1k | i mean i do, but i was wondering |
| 18:04.44 | \amethyst | Slap_Sti1k: ~/.ssh/config |
| 18:04.47 | kshah | drwahl: it instructed me to dpkg --configure -a, which I did, it restarted apache which was updated |
| 18:04.47 | Slap_Sti1k | cool |
| 18:04.48 | Slap_Sti1k | thanks |
| 18:04.51 | \amethyst | Slap_Sti1k: man ssh_config |
| 18:04.55 | Slap_Sti1k | cheers |
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| 18:05.10 | kshah | drwahl: so now I can install the keyring, i hope? |
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| 18:05.44 | kshah | damned, gave me the same backports error |
| 18:05.46 | \amethyst | Slap_Sti1k: if each identity is used for one remote machine, you can name the files after the machines (like host1.domain.com.rsa) then use IdentityFile %h.rsa |
| 18:05.46 | drwahl | kshah: the no_pubkey is not a HUGE deal. it means that one of the repos you have has not been signed, so the packages MAY be bad (just as anything on the internet MIGHT contain a virus) |
| 18:05.57 | kshah | I see |
| 18:06.00 | \amethyst | Slap_Sti1k: that way it will only try the one named after the machine, instead of all of them |
| 18:06.09 | kshah | okay, it was in the chan topic so I thought it was some current issue |
| 18:06.23 | Slap_Sti1k | ahh crafty, thanks ;-) good idea |
| 18:06.28 | \amethyst | Slap_Sti1k: (you'd probably want another IdentityFile entry after that for your default identity, in case there wasn't a host-specific identity) |
| 18:06.36 | drwahl | kshah: security is always a current issue :) |
| 18:06.40 | kshah | hehe, true |
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| 18:09.04 | kshah | drwahl: does dpkg -a --configure check for install packages that couldn't be configured or started and then try again? |
| 18:09.47 | ruied | now I'm installing postgresql and debian isn't adding the conf files in /etc/postgresql/ the directory is empty... what can I do to create those files? |
| 18:10.04 | kshah | drwahl: Because I installed nginx, it couldn't start because apache was there, I removed apache, and ran that command under that assumption, and nginx started.. i'll check the man |
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| 18:10.10 | drwahl | kshah: i'm not an expert on this, but afaik.... when apt-get grabs packages, it queues them in dpkg to install. if an error occurs, they stay in the queue. when you dpkg -a, it will try to configure all the packages that are still in the queue |
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| 18:10.31 | kshah | yeah, that sounds like what I think happened |
| 18:10.32 | kshah | cool |
| 18:11.00 | kshah | thanks drwahl |
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| 18:11.26 | ruied | apt-get install postgresql-8.1 errors: "http://paste.uni.cc/18410" |
| 18:11.47 | ruied | it's not creating the conf files... what can I do... |
| 18:11.51 | ruied | ? |
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| 18:14.12 | kshah | ruied: perhaps the conversation that I just had could help, you could try running dpkg -a --configure |
| 18:14.30 | kshah | then again i have no idea what i'm talking about |
| 18:16.27 | drwahl | kshah: np |
| 18:17.42 | drwahl | ruied: it looks like apt-get installed it just fine, but there were issues configuring it |
| 18:18.00 | drwahl | ruied: you will probably get more help from the manpages than anyone in here :) |
| 18:18.18 | drwahl | unless someone is more experience with it |
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| 18:18.56 | drwahl | !test |
| 18:18.56 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 18:18.59 | drwahl | ... |
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| 18:19.17 | OXIj | how to get cursor position in X? |
| 18:19.29 | OXIj | i need it in a sh script |
| 18:19.36 | greatauk | Does anyone know how to change the default user that runs a script in init.d? |
| 18:19.39 | azeem | OXIj: please ask in a X programming channel |
| 18:19.50 | greatauk | so, instead of having www-data run apache I'd like root to run it |
| 18:19.56 | greatauk | (only using www-data as an example) |
| 18:19.58 | OXIj | azeem, where it is? |
| 18:20.00 | ruied | drwahl, it seems some permissions problem... going to check... |
| 18:20.05 | azeem | OXIj: I don't know, but not here |
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| 18:23.05 | chops | greatauk: root runs all init scripts. apache is what drops the permissions (once it's opened ports) to become www-data. |
| 18:23.19 | chops | greatauk: I doubt that apache will be willing to run as root, but I could be wrong. |
| 18:23.57 | greatauk | chops, ah, you've pointed me towards the right track anyway ... its not apache I'm trying to manipulate but a system monitoring package called monit |
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| 18:23.59 | chops | greatauk: Actually, I know there was a person in this channel recently whose apache was refusing to run as root. |
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| 18:25.18 | greatauk | What I'm trying to do is run chown user:group and getting a permission denied on the group, even if the user running the command belongs to that group |
| 18:25.25 | greatauk | so I figure I gotta have root privileges |
| 18:25.43 | chops | greatauk: chown requires root privileges, yes |
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| 18:26.10 | beardy | If you don't own the files. |
| 18:26.49 | chops | beardy: Even if you do. I can't chown my big data file to dave's user and fill up Dave's quota instead of my own (just one example of possible abuse) |
| 18:27.06 | OXIj | may be now somebody know how to get X cursor position in shell script? |
| 18:27.24 | azeem | OXIj: your question is off-topic |
| 18:27.30 | OXIj | why? |
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| 18:27.34 | beardy | Yes, why? |
| 18:27.45 | OXIj | im using debian after all |
| 18:27.46 | azeem | because this channel is not about general programming advise |
| 18:27.47 | greatauk | chops, it's weird that I can't change permissions so that something belongs to a group I already belong to |
| 18:28.01 | OXIj | its not about programming |
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| 18:28.13 | chops | greatauk: You saw about 5 lines above where I gave an example of the abuse that that would allow, didn't you? |
| 18:28.18 | OXIj | its about scripting |
| 18:28.33 | azeem | OXIj: probably the answer involves "write a helper C program which outputs the position" |
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| 18:28.46 | HSorgYves | morning |
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| 18:28.49 | greatauk | chops, yeah, but that's changning the _user_, not the group ... If I already belong to the group and I'm not trying to change the user ... that should be ok, right? |
| 18:29.08 | OXIj | azeem, thats a bad answer) i want kinda standart tool |
| 18:29.35 | greatauk | so a file I have belongs to myself:keepitreal and I want to change it to myself:sellouts ... that should work |
| 18:29.57 | HSorgYves | which partition schema do you recommend for a hosting server? all in one partition for most flexibility, different partitions with different file systems (raw for innodb, jfs/xfs for data, ext3 for boot, ...)? |
| 18:30.00 | beardy | OXIj: There most likely is no simpler way. But let us know if you find one. |
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| 18:30.24 | OXIj | )) |
| 18:30.34 | chops | greatauk: _That_ you can do. You mentioned 'chown user:group'. Try using chgrp. |
| 18:30.42 | beardy | But offtopic, it is not. |
| 18:30.52 | greatauk | chops, ah ... ok ... thanks :) |
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| 18:34.00 | ruied | drwahl, unistalled and removed all files/directorys in /etc/posgres/ and /var/lib/postgres... installed again and it worked... |
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| 18:34.33 | drwahl | ruied: sweet. musta been some wierd quirk. glad it works now anyhow |
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| 18:34.55 | ruied | drwahl, just uncommented the localhost in postgresql.conf and it's working like a charm... :) |
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| 18:36.06 | greatauk | chops, thanks for the help :) |
| 18:36.13 | chops | greatauk: np |
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| 18:39.01 | cheetahw26 | i changed the nic card in my machine, how can i reconfigure the new nic? or name it correctly? right now eth0 references the old one |
| 18:39.19 | chops | cheetahw26: Why not just refer to the new one by eth1? |
| 18:39.26 | chops | cheetahw26: Is the old card still in the machine? |
| 18:39.30 | cheetahw26 | thats fine... how do i do that |
| 18:39.34 | cheetahw26 | no old card is gone |
| 18:39.43 | cheetahw26 | i dont care what its called, but i forgot how to name it |
| 18:39.49 | cheetahw26 | or to find out what it is currently named |
| 18:39.58 | chops | cheetahw26: Why do you say that eth0 references the old one, then? If there's only one card in the machine, it will be called eth0 (in general) |
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| 18:40.22 | beardy | !interfaces |
| 18:40.22 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client> read "man resolv.conf" for DNS also ask me about <static route> |
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| 18:40.25 | beardy | !ifrename |
| 18:40.26 | dpkg | from memory, ifrename is a utility which sets interface names based on parameters such as MAC address. Very handy if different kernels or kernel modules assign different identifiers to your interfaces, or just to make your firewall rules more readable. http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3586546 |
| 18:40.50 | chops | Isn't ifrename obselete, to be replaced by the z25 udev rules? |
| 18:41.05 | beardy | Update the factoid or write a better one then. |
| 18:41.06 | cheetahw26 | because if i type; ifup eth0 it reads SIOCSIFADDR: no such devices |
| 18:41.18 | chops | cheetahw26: Are you using a Debian vendor kernel? |
| 18:41.26 | cheetahw26 | debian etch |
| 18:41.36 | chops | cheetahw26: Do you happen to know what kernel module is the driver for the new card? What kind of card is it? |
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| 18:41.52 | chops | cheetahw26: But it's the etch kernel, right? Not one you compiled yourself? |
| 18:42.28 | cheetahw26 | its vmware machine... so nic is supported ... its amd one or something |
| 18:42.36 | cheetahw26 | right not one self compiled |
| 18:43.02 | chops | cheetahw26: ifconfig -a doesn't list anything interesting, does it? (i.e. no eth0) |
| 18:43.03 | cheetahw26 | i upgraded from vmware 1 to vmware 2.beta and the nic is different... its generic one i believe... |
| 18:43.10 | cheetahw26 | right ... only ... lo |
| 18:43.20 | chops | cheetahw26: Wait, so you didn't change anything about the physical machine? |
| 18:43.30 | cheetahw26 | correct |
| 18:43.31 | chops | cheetahw26: And the NIC that isn't showing up is provided by vmware? |
| 18:43.39 | cheetahw26 | but debian is the virtual machine... |
| 18:43.41 | chops | cheetahw26: I would debug your vmware setup before looking at Debian, then |
| 18:43.56 | chops | cheetahw26: If Debian didn't change, and vmware did, and now something doesn't work that used to... well, you do the math :-) |
| 18:44.02 | cheetahw26 | the virtual network adapter has changed |
| 18:44.15 | cheetahw26 | so debian... reads this is a new different nic |
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| 18:44.43 | chops | cheetahw26: If you're dead set on "fixing" something in the Debian system, you can find out what kernel module Debian is supposed to be using to drive the new virtual adapter, make sure it's loaded, see if it outputs any interesting messages... I would look first at the vmware setup, though. |
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| 18:45.23 | chops | cheetahw26: If Debian were reading it as a new, different NIC, you'd see something in 'ifconfig -a' besides lo. Debian isn't seeing a NIC at all (either because it doesn't have the right kernel module loaded or because vmware isn't properly providing one to it). |
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| 18:45.32 | cheetahw26 | there is nothing wrong with the vmware setup... when i create a new debian vm with the new vmware version.. and different nic it works fine.. |
| 18:45.50 | cheetahw26 | really ? |
| 18:45.58 | chops | cheetahw26: You can try looking at 'lsmod' in the old Debian setup and the new one, then, and see if there's a module loaded in the new one that's not in the old one |
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| 18:46.13 | chops | cheetahw26: You could try installing udev if it's not currently installed in the non-working Debian system, also |
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| 18:46.28 | cheetahw26 | so definitively... in debian.. if i take out and old nic and replace it... and debian has the driver, it will always show if i type ifconfig -a |
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| 18:47.26 | chops | cheetahw26: Correct. 'ifconfig -a' shows all the interfaces Debian is aware of, even if they're not configured or up or anything. |
| 18:47.35 | cheetahw26 | ok... |
| 18:47.45 | cheetahw26 | must be something else than. |
| 18:48.54 | cheetahw26 | oh wait... |
| 18:49.06 | cheetahw26 | i do see an interface.. .sorry my screen was too small |
| 18:49.16 | cheetahw26 | eth2 shows when i type ifconfig -a |
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| 18:49.28 | eifzon | shall I run a sh script as root or user? |
| 18:50.02 | cheetahw26 | my apologies |
| 18:50.05 | cheetahw26 | thank you for your help |
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| 18:50.54 | chops | cheetahw26: np |
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| 18:52.01 | Ward1983 | does anyone have a asus p5b deluxe mainboard by any chance? |
| 18:52.02 | hayalci | Hi, In my new server, I can get users from LDAP, but groups are a problem. "getent password MYNAME" shows my ldap user details, but "getent group MYGROUP" shows nothing. |
| 18:52.17 | chops | !anyone |
| 18:52.18 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 18:52.21 | hayalci | I do not have nscd running now, the results are not cached, I have "ldap" in "groups:" line of nsswitch.conf, still passwd works and group does not. |
| 18:52.48 | Ashfire908 | Is there a libpurple, pidgin, or finch package(s) for debian? |
| 18:52.51 | Ward1983 | lets hate each other |
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| 18:53.11 | JP | What is the way to configure ppp ? |
| 18:53.27 | JP | I mean, ethernet- i want to change the ip address for my debian box to be the dhcp client |
| 18:53.40 | hayalci | Any ideas about this "group hating" ldap client issue? My other servers work fine with the same settings, This one is a fresh etch install. |
| 18:53.42 | beardy | !tell JP -about interfaces |
| 18:54.33 | Ashfire908 | I looked with apt-cache and aptitude, but i'm not familiar with using them (i'm not familiar with debian either) so i don't know if i just missed it |
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| 18:55.09 | SexyKen | Hey guys, if I want to install Debian with KDE using a Net Install Disk (4.0r3) - what do you recommend I install at the time of initial installation? |
| 18:55.11 | jim | Ward1983: if you want to get a pretty good answer, ask a pretty specific question... |
| 18:55.22 | drwahl | beardy: dpkg is down last that i checked |
| 18:55.24 | drwahl | !test |
| 18:55.24 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 18:55.24 | hayalci | Ashfire908: if you are using debian stable, there is "gaim" which is the previous name of pidgin. |
| 18:55.51 | beardy | drwahl: Last was too long ago. |
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| 18:56.17 | beardy | SexyKen: Whatever you need to do what you want. |
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| 18:56.40 | beardy | SexyKen: cowsay, figlet, bsdgames, filters |
| 18:56.53 | jim | SexyKen: I almost always just install the base and reboot, from there, I install the big stuff |
| 18:57.20 | SexyKen | Like a simple "apt-get install kde" and let it choose the deps? |
| 18:57.25 | bolt | ooh |
| 18:57.27 | bolt | big stuff |
| 18:57.28 | Ward1983 | i have a asus p5b deluxe mainboard, where can i find out if its compatible? |
| 18:57.39 | Ward1983 | and zhat parts are compatible |
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| 18:57.48 | stevil | hi all |
| 18:57.54 | jim | SexyKen: right, but you'll also need an x server and maybe kdm or xdm |
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| 18:58.10 | possie_ | hi stevil |
| 18:58.17 | Ashfire908 | hayalci: so the newer pidgin is not available as a package? |
| 18:58.29 | JP | hey guys |
| 18:58.32 | JP | when i edit resolv.conf |
| 18:58.35 | JP | ifup eth0 |
| 18:58.39 | JP | changes it back to some bullshit |
| 18:58.41 | SexyKen | I've got a bit of a problem though. |
| 18:58.41 | JP | how do i fix that? |
| 18:58.50 | jim | find out what's changing it |
| 18:58.59 | BUMBACL0T | what's the minimum hard disk requirement for stable? desktop w/ X ? |
| 18:59.00 | possie_ | stevil, long time no see |
| 18:59.00 | SexyKen | the net Install recognized my ethernet adapter just fine, but now that I have the base install of debian on the computer, eth0 doesn't work. |
| 18:59.02 | jim | also consider conserving use of enter key |
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| 18:59.15 | hayalci | Ashfire908: It is available in etch-backports, testing (lenny) and unstable(sid) distributions. see http://packages.debian.org/pidgin |
| 18:59.17 | SexyKen | ifup eth0 - produces SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth0: ERROR WHILE GETTING INTERFACE FLAGS: no such device |
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| 18:59.42 | Ashfire908 | hayalci: ok |
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| 18:59.48 | BUMBACL0T | is 4GB enough ? |
| 18:59.49 | jim | SexyKen: ifconfig eth0 produce a paragraph? |
| 18:59.52 | Ashfire908 | hayalci: thanks. |
| 18:59.54 | jim | well probably |
| 18:59.56 | possie_ | stevil, good news? |
| 19:00.19 | SexyKen | Jim, it says "eth0: error fetching interface information: device not found" |
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| 19:00.32 | SexyKen | But like I said, the net install configured the device fine. |
| 19:00.42 | jim | ok, so you don't have a net card driver installed and/or inserted |
| 19:00.47 | jim | hmm, |
| 19:01.14 | SexyKen | Which seems to be quite odd to me.... |
| 19:01.39 | SexyKen | Never had to manually install / insert a net card driver on other machines |
| 19:01.41 | SexyKen | Not since 1990 |
| 19:01.48 | jim | can you pick out the second word of each line beginning with "iface" in /etc/network/interfaces and put em on a line? |
| 19:02.06 | SexyKen | It's set for dhcp |
| 19:02.17 | SexyKen | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 19:02.52 | jim | haven't changed your kernel or anything? |
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| 19:03.02 | SexyKen | Nope complete stock install, haven't even used apt yet |
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| 19:03.14 | jim | hmm, rebooted into it tho? |
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| 19:03.23 | SexyKen | Yes, rebooted from netinstall at it's prompt. |
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| 19:03.46 | BUMBACL0T | jim, how do you boot with 2.6> kernel again? |
| 19:03.46 | jim | and logged into it successfully after rebooting? |
| 19:04.02 | SexyKen | Yup. |
| 19:04.20 | SexyKen | I did a "grep net /var/log/messages" and see the following line: |
| 19:04.27 | jim | BUMBACL0T: etch should have 2.6 by default... could you give better clues as to what youmean? |
| 19:04.36 | BUMBACL0T | nvm, you're right |
| 19:04.40 | bolt | moo. |
| 19:05.02 | SexyKen | audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) and the next line is: forcedeth.c: Reverse engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.56 |
| 19:05.18 | jim | oh, you have that on your mobo? |
| 19:05.38 | SexyKen | Yes, I have an nvidia chipset I believe |
| 19:05.46 | jim | ok... |
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| 19:06.12 | jim | ifconfig -a will give all known interfaces... which interfaces does it know? |
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| 19:06.32 | SexyKen | You're on to something ;-) |
| 19:06.33 | SexyKen | eth3 |
| 19:06.38 | jim | hehe |
| 19:06.40 | SexyKen | and of course, lo |
| 19:06.42 | SexyKen | How odd is that. |
| 19:06.43 | jim | wonder why it does that |
| 19:06.54 | peleg | hey: anyone knows about a GUI for grep? |
| 19:07.10 | peleg | (on gnome) |
| 19:07.28 | jim | maybe find needs a gui |
| 19:07.29 | drwahl | peleg: why do you need a gui for grep? |
| 19:07.32 | jim | or cat |
| 19:07.43 | jim | hey I know, let's make a gui for echo! |
| 19:07.46 | SexyKen | Well figure, adding eth3 to interfaces and ifup eth3 worked like a charm. |
| 19:08.02 | SexyKen | But now I feel like something isn't right becuase it's eth3 when it should be eth0 |
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| 19:08.07 | peleg | drwahl: why not? might be easier to see the results; instead of seeing these in a long list. |
| 19:08.12 | SexyKen | I only have a single nic in this puppy |
| 19:08.13 | jim | well that doesn't make me feel particularly good (exactly) |
| 19:08.27 | peleg | where double-click will open the listed file that is found, etc... |
| 19:08.28 | mbroeker | peleg, there is a kregexpeditor for kde which does the job. but i haven't heard anything about such things for gnome right now... |
| 19:08.30 | drwahl | peleg: huh? does... not... compute.... |
| 19:08.44 | jim | maybe looking thru dmesg will offer clue as to what happened during initialization |
| 19:09.09 | drwahl | peleg: you can pipe grep outputs to a file that you can use something like gedit to view |
| 19:09.13 | drwahl | what more would you need? |
| 19:09.20 | jim | macosx has a really nice gui for diff |
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| 19:09.40 | peleg | drwahl: grep gives you a long list of files; but not a nice list with colours and links and stuff like that. |
| 19:09.59 | peleg | mbroeker: thanks.. I will have a look at it. |
| 19:10.01 | jim | peleg: here's a scripting opportunity for you |
| 19:10.11 | jim | maybe you can create a web application |
| 19:10.24 | drwahl | peleg: it sounds like you want more than what grep actually is meant for :) good luck on a search for Gods grep command |
| 19:10.27 | drwahl | lol |
| 19:10.27 | peleg | Jim: ha? I'm good only with PHP |
| 19:10.48 | jim | will you be good only with php forever? |
| 19:10.53 | mbroeker | peleg, it installs approx. 100 mb on dependencies. overhelmed for it. install amarok first lol |
| 19:10.58 | peleg | Jim: :-) |
| 19:11.22 | jim | I have a better idea... |
| 19:11.32 | SexyKen | Hrm |
| 19:11.34 | beardy | SexyKen: And you will use aptitude instead of apt-get. |
| 19:11.40 | peleg | mbroeker: thanks |
| 19:11.40 | jim | learn unix commands, learn the shell |
| 19:11.49 | SexyKen | beardy: really? apt-get no good? |
| 19:11.56 | peleg | jim: yes, good idea. maybe some day. |
| 19:11.59 | lkthomas | guys, I am setting up debian to send syslog to remote server |
| 19:12.06 | lkthomas | but debian itself wouldn't send anything |
| 19:12.13 | jim | peleg: no time like the present :P |
| 19:12.17 | lkthomas | instead of that, it log into local file |
| 19:12.36 | beardy | SexyKen: It is, but aptitude is better, and is recommended since etch. |
| 19:12.36 | mbroeker | lkthomas, thats a config option. |
| 19:12.38 | SexyKen | Jim: Check this out: forcedeth: Using HIGHDMA then the next line: 0000:00:07.0: Invalid Mac Address detected: 0d:62:20:21:19:00 Please complain to your hardware vendor. Switching to a random MAC |
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| 19:12.43 | SexyKen | That's gotta be why it moves to eth3 |
| 19:12.55 | lkthomas | lighttpd.access.domain.com.log @domain.com |
| 19:12.58 | jim | yeah, that looks kinda weird |
| 19:13.00 | lkthomas | I add it already |
| 19:13.32 | SexyKen | And I'm not the first one, jim ;-) |
| 19:13.32 | SexyKen | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-amd64@lists.debian.org/msg23421.html |
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| 19:13.53 | jim | what mobo is that, btw? |
| 19:13.56 | lantius | hello, I'd like to have a variable like $PATH, I mean a variable which could be called from every script of the system. I've read about export, but I don't think it could solve my problem. |
| 19:14.09 | lkthomas | jim: any idea about my case ? |
| 19:14.12 | lkthomas | also, mbroeker ? |
| 19:14.14 | beardy | lantius: I think it would. |
| 19:14.38 | jim | I can't pageup right now |
| 19:14.40 | jim | brb |
| 19:14.40 | beardy | lantius: man bash, man 5 profile, and so on. |
| 19:14.50 | SexyKen | shoot |
| 19:14.54 | SexyKen | I dont remember, Jim .... |
| 19:14.59 | SexyKen | Hrm |
| 19:15.28 | mbroeker | lkthomas, printf "*.*\t\t@some_remote_host\n" >> /etc/syslog.conf ? |
| 19:15.29 | beardy | lantius: If you want one like $PATH, your .bashrc is where to add it. |
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| 19:16.14 | lantius | beardy thanks, I am going to read and probe. |
| 19:16.23 | lkthomas | not *.* |
| 19:16.34 | lkthomas | only two log is what I need |
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| 19:17.02 | beardy | lantius: You just add "export VARIABLE="something". |
| 19:17.13 | mbroeker | lkthomas, sorry but i am not your hero. i am mbroeker. |
| 19:17.29 | lkthomas | huh ? :) |
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| 19:18.07 | jim | as far as the ui for grep thing, you're in a catch-22 situation: on the one hand, you're asking for it because you're new and not used to the rawness of its output... on the other hand, people who know something won't find it useful to make one, so they won't |
| 19:18.08 | lantius | beardy But I am going to use this variable in scripts which are executed at the starting of the system. is there no problem? |
| 19:18.28 | HardDisk_WP | hi all |
| 19:18.45 | HardDisk_WP | i have an exim4 with courier-imap on debian lenny system |
| 19:18.52 | lantius | beardy I know about export and how to use it, but all examples I've seen is about scripts after the system has started, and executed by users, not by root. |
| 19:18.53 | chops | lantius: Out of curiosity, what are you trying to do? There's often a better way of doing what you describe than an environment variable |
| 19:19.01 | HardDisk_WP | how do i set up that the emails to vm@domain.de go to marco@domain.de? |
| 19:19.44 | chops | HardDisk_WP: Add that to /etc/aliases on the machine that handles mail for domain.de (if it's still using standard Unix mail handling and not virtual mboxes or anything) |
| 19:19.58 | HardDisk_WP | chops, it uses this Maildir stuff |
| 19:20.03 | lantius | chops I need a variable which is HOMENET=192.168.1. or 192.168.0. or, what ever, because If i need to change firewalls, apache configurations, and more over, I only have to change this variable. do you understand me? |
| 19:20.06 | jim | because you're not used to it, you're probably not yet skilled at unix itself (without gui)... in order to do what you're asking for, you'll have to gain the skills... once you do that, you'll see the reason why it's not really worth the effort (ok, so that part is my judgement, but probably you'll see it more clearly when you try) |
| 19:20.24 | beardy | lantius: Then it's something else yes. Tell us more exactly what you are trying to do. |
| 19:20.29 | drwahl | !test |
| 19:20.29 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 19:20.51 | drwahl | !ping |
| 19:20.51 | dpkg | pong |
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| 19:22.05 | SexyKen | jim: Do you use a gui with linux on any machines? |
| 19:22.11 | jim | sure |
| 19:22.20 | SexyKen | What's your choice? |
| 19:22.27 | jim | but I don't need a gui for grep, cat or echo :) |
| 19:23.08 | kunsi | SexyKen: im using xfce |
| 19:23.16 | SexyKen | Oh I know - I was just curious to know how to get kde installed properly ;-) |
| 19:23.18 | kunsi | but im also using kde and gnome |
| 19:23.34 | jim | presently kde, but I see the gui in linux as a sideline, just like on windows the gui was originally built as a sideline to dos |
| 19:23.42 | chops | lantius: You could put that in /etc/localnetvars and have all the shell scripts that use it have '. /etc/localnetvars' at the top |
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| 19:23.52 | jim | so I'm not so happy with it as I could be |
| 19:24.10 | jim | I was using gnome before, that's ok |
| 19:24.14 | chops | lantius: That's better than exposing it to all the users (and having all the scripts depending on it being set by the systemwide mojo, which might not be true if you're running single-user/early in init/migrated to a new system/whatever) |
| 19:24.20 | beardy | lantius: Have a file containing it instead. /usr/local/etc/homenet or what you like, containing "HOMENET=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx", and then "source /usr/local/etc/homenet" in your script. It seems a bit odd though, if you will edit all startup scripts, but as long as you know what you are doing. |
| 19:24.25 | lantius | chops That sounds really good. |
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| 19:24.30 | jim | I'm using kde now, it's ok... |
| 19:24.35 | SexyKen | I'm on the stock install, and I'm about to install kde to give it a shot (that's the purpose of this machine) will a simple aptititude install kde do the trick |
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| 19:25.18 | beardy | SexyKen: /msg dpkg install kde, but yes. |
| 19:25.27 | jim | yes it will, but remember you will also need an x server (x-window-system-core should do it) |
| 19:25.39 | serzan | hi all |
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| 19:25.55 | serzan | I'm running testing but would like to install a kernel from unstable |
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| 19:26.12 | SexyKen | jim: So you're saying that kde wont install the x server as a dependancy? |
| 19:26.17 | jim | no |
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| 19:26.24 | chops | serzan: Does it work just to install it directly from unstable? testing and unstable are often pretty close to each other. |
| 19:26.25 | serzan | I've added unstable in apt-sources.conf and APT::Default-Release set to "testing" |
| 19:26.39 | jim | and for a pretty comprehensive "why is that", read man X |
| 19:26.53 | SexyKen | Well hear goes nothing, I hope that mirrors.kernel.org is a fast enough :-) |
| 19:26.53 | serzan | chops: no the 2.6.23 kernel is only in unstable |
| 19:27.03 | lantius | thanks beardy and chops |
| 19:27.04 | beardy | serzan: Just download the package and install using dpkg to save you from messing it up. |
| 19:27.09 | drwahl | SexyKen: i haven't read the whole chat, but to get kde working from a base install: apt-get install xserver-xorg xorg kdebase |
| 19:27.20 | chops | serzan: No, I mean "close to each other" in that installing packages from unstable will generally not change that much about your testing system |
| 19:27.20 | beardy | lantius: You're welcome. |
| 19:27.30 | serzan | beardy: sounds good |
| 19:27.35 | drwahl | SexyKen: then if you want a login manager, you can: apt-get install kdm |
| 19:27.39 | chops | serzan: (Not that you shouldn't be careful; if it wants to upgrade libc6, you should be aware that you might be entering a land of brokenness) |
| 19:28.02 | serzan | I just find it strange that default release doesn't seem to be honored |
| 19:28.04 | SexyKen | drwahl: So you say install xserver-xorg instead of x-window-system-core? |
| 19:28.12 | drwahl | SexyKen: yes |
| 19:28.20 | SexyKen | Any particular reason? |
| 19:28.21 | serzan | as I do apt-get upgrade and it seems to want to upgrade everything to unstable (even though default release is set to testing) |
| 19:28.38 | jim | SexyKen: that would also do it... I do like having xbase-clients tho |
| 19:28.47 | drwahl | SexyKen: and xorg. the only reason is becauase i know those packages are needed, and i do not know what is contained in thhe x-wind* |
| 19:28.57 | chops | serzan: Don't upgrade. Just add sid to sources.list, aptitude install linux-image-whatever, and then remove sid from sources.list |
| 19:29.00 | SexyKen | And why kdebase rather than kde? |
| 19:29.16 | SexyKen | Ah you're sayin gxserver-xorg and xorg will install far less than x-window-system-core or whatever |
| 19:29.17 | drwahl | SexyKen: its about 150MB smaller |
| 19:29.37 | Eulex | chops & serzan, I'd go a step further; download the .deb from packages.debian.org and dpkg -i it |
| 19:29.39 | SexyKen | jim: What is an xbase-client? |
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| 19:30.33 | jim | it's got xauth xhost and some other very basic clients, meant for stuff like running x programs on one machine and having them display on another |
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| 19:30.55 | jim | and also for more general basic tinkering |
| 19:31.00 | SexyKen | Ah so basically could use an xclient on my windows laptop to connect to my linux desktop? |
| 19:31.10 | jim | yes |
| 19:31.20 | SexyKen | And that is included in x-window-system-core? |
| 19:31.35 | serzan | chops: I'll try dpkg -i but I'm intrigued that the default release setting in preferences (or apt.conf) doesn't work |
| 19:31.48 | jim | (and that's the main reason x servers (and associated libs) are independent of x clients (and their libs)) |
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| 19:32.15 | drwahl | SexyKen, jim: i'm almost 100% sure those are included in the xorg package |
| 19:32.22 | jim | I think x-window-system-core does depend on it |
| 19:32.24 | jim | no |
| 19:32.57 | jim | drwahl: no, as I just said, server stuff is separated from client stuff, that way you can have a box with ONLY clients |
| 19:33.27 | SexyKen | Grr hehee!!! Now what do I issue to aptitiude |
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| 19:33.54 | SexyKen | aptitude install kde xserver-xorg xorg kdm OR: aptitude install kde x-window-system-core kdm |
| 19:33.58 | drwahl | jim: interesting... well, i have built my desktop and server both by: "apt-get install xserver-xorg xorg kdebase kdm" and i am able to forward apps to my laptop from both, so i must be grabbing it from somewhere |
| 19:34.23 | chops | serzan: I've never understood how pinning or default releases work. I imagine that it's working "correctly" but in a way that's surprising to you. |
| 19:34.26 | drwahl | SexyKen: it sounds like either will work. just give it a shot |
| 19:34.28 | jim | why not start by getting your x server working? aptitude install xserver-xorg and make sure that much works first |
| 19:34.45 | drwahl | SexyKen: either way you will only be an apt-get away from fixing it :) |
| 19:35.01 | jim | once you know it displays properly and the mouse moves when you move the mouse, then install the rest |
| 19:35.23 | jelly-home | !test |
| 19:35.23 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 19:35.23 | SexyKen | Okay I did the x install - it's done now what hehehe |
| 19:35.35 | jim | drwahl: one data point, kdm and everything in kde (and kdebase) are x clients |
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| 19:35.47 | jim | no x servers in the bunch, none at all |
| 19:35.54 | serzan | chops: thanks; I'm sure it's me, but it stills seems to be something non-obvious, anyway |
| 19:36.05 | drwahl | jim: so i wonder where i am getting my xserver stuff from |
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| 19:36.16 | SexyKen | uh-oh I ran "X" and I dont see shit. |
| 19:36.19 | SexyKen | Just a big black screen |
| 19:36.22 | jim | xserver would come from xorg and xserver-xorg |
| 19:36.26 | drwahl | SexyKen: run "startx" |
| 19:36.26 | chops | serzan: It is. Like I said, I've never bothered to understand exactly how it works; it didn't work like I expected it to and after a rather minimal effort I stopped trying to understand it :-) |
| 19:36.39 | jim | SexyKen: with an X in the middle? |
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| 19:36.50 | drwahl | jim: ah, ok. that makes sense i guess, since it has the word "server" in it :) |
| 19:36.58 | SexyKen | No - no X just a big black blank screen |
| 19:36.59 | nebM0ft | What tool can I use to add a line after every line having some regexp "xxxx" |
| 19:37.01 | nebM0ft | ? |
| 19:37.03 | SexyKen | And I can't get back to my term |
| 19:37.07 | jim | drwahl: he's not quite ready for startx yet |
| 19:37.17 | jim | SexyKen: ctrl-alt-backspace |
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| 19:37.42 | drwahl | jim: i'll stop putting my input in then. i think i might be confusing him by giving him extra stuff. he's all yours :) |
| 19:37.45 | SexyKen | ctrl alt backspace no work...you didnt mean ctrl alt del right? |
| 19:37.53 | jim | nope |
| 19:38.05 | drwahl | SexyKen: Ctrl+Alt+F1 |
| 19:38.06 | jim | hmm. so it's not taking any keyboard input? |
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| 19:38.34 | SexyKen | Ctrl Alt F1 no go either |
| 19:38.43 | drwahl | odd |
| 19:38.48 | junix|work | hi, i am having a problem getting a script to run in my .profile for other users, i'm not sure why, but i've just added users to the system |
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| 19:38.53 | jim | left-ctrl left-alt F1? |
| 19:38.59 | jim | left-ctrl left-alt backspace too? |
| 19:39.27 | jim | stupidly, I think it might matter |
| 19:39.33 | SexyKen | Tried both sides. |
| 19:39.46 | jim | is it on your internal net? |
| 19:39.52 | SexyKen | Yea |
| 19:40.02 | jim | and the machine you're talking to us on is also? |
| 19:40.11 | jim | see if you can ping it |
| 19:40.16 | jim | see if you can ssh in |
| 19:41.00 | SexyKen | Pingable but no ssh I believe |
| 19:41.10 | jim | ssh isn't installed from the base tho, that's probably why |
| 19:41.11 | SexyKen | Actively refusing SSH |
| 19:41.34 | jim | so it's alive if you can ping it right now |
| 19:41.38 | SexyKen | Yea |
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| 19:42.22 | jim | who did you run X as btw? |
| 19:42.30 | SexyKen | Hrm root |
| 19:42.37 | jim | that should be fine |
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| 19:42.48 | jim | so it's misconfigured or something |
| 19:43.09 | SexyKen | Actually I did a install last night, and I had desktop selected in the tasksel |
| 19:43.14 | SexyKen | And this is what it did after boot |
| 19:43.17 | jim | (this is -just- the server, you don't have anything else at the moment, no clients, nothing) |
| 19:43.18 | SexyKen | So I did a reinstall without desktop |
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| 19:43.34 | jim | oh, so this has a history :) |
| 19:43.35 | SexyKen | Should I restart this fucker? |
| 19:43.38 | Lectus | where can i get a list off apps that come with debian-40r3-i386-kde-CD-1.iso? |
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| 19:44.07 | SexyKen | Hrm |
| 19:44.10 | jim | you mean reboot? or reinstall? I'd try a reboot, and then install ssh on it |
| 19:44.14 | SexyKen | Control + Alt + Del issued a sot reboot |
| 19:44.24 | jim | sot? |
| 19:44.28 | SexyKen | soft |
| 19:44.32 | jim | oh nice |
| 19:45.22 | jim | so you can install kde and all that stuff after the reboot if you want to, but you still have some kind of issue with X |
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| 19:45.39 | SexyKen | So what would that mean then? |
| 19:46.01 | jim | whether you do or you don't install the rest of what you want now (your choice), you still have to figure out what's wrong |
| 19:46.13 | SexyKen | Well I'd rather fix this problem first lol |
| 19:46.18 | SexyKen | I have sshd installed now |
| 19:46.22 | SexyKen | and I'm sitting at a prompt |
| 19:46.45 | SexyKen | What do you recommend? |
| 19:46.48 | jim | ok, first thing to try is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xort |
| 19:46.54 | jim | err |
| 19:47.01 | jim | xserver-xorg |
| 19:47.08 | SexyKen | Okay - attempt to autodetect video hardware? |
| 19:47.17 | SexyKen | (I have 2 video cards, one onboard, one not) |
| 19:47.18 | jim | sure, why not :) |
| 19:47.20 | balibalo | how can i modify the partition s size ? |
| 19:47.36 | SexyKen | Aha! |
| 19:47.39 | chops | balibalo: gparted is generally considered a good wya |
| 19:47.40 | chops | *way |
| 19:47.42 | SexyKen | No X server known for your video hardware |
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| 19:48.23 | jim | back up partition, delete partition, create partition, write partition table, reboot, format partition, restore, mount |
| 19:48.37 | SexyKen | There is either no video hardware installed on this machine (E.g. serious console only), or the "discover" program was unable to determine which X server is appropriate for the video hardware. This could be due to incomplete information in discover's hardware database, or becuase your video hardware is not supported by the available X servers. |
| 19:48.53 | chops | balibalo: Following jim's advice will destroy the data currently on the partition |
| 19:48.56 | jim | (-approximately-; and know most of those things are dangerous, lots of pitfalls) |
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| 19:49.18 | nebM0ft | How can I append a line of code after every line with some pattern? |
| 19:49.19 | jim | make -sure- you back up properly if you're going to do that |
| 19:49.24 | jim | including the partition table |
| 19:49.33 | jim | you could also try: |
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| 19:49.41 | nebM0ft | sed -i 's/catch.*\n/&e.printStackTrace();/g' file2 doesn't do anything |
| 19:49.41 | AVRS | Hello. |
| 19:49.44 | SexyKen | It told me it couldn't find any video hardware, but now it's asking for the X server driver I want to use? |
| 19:49.54 | balibalo | thank s |
| 19:49.59 | AVRS | How do I know what ink is over in a printer? |
| 19:50.01 | balibalo | for the methods |
| 19:50.18 | jim | AVRS: ummm... taste it? |
| 19:50.23 | jim | I dunno! |
| 19:50.26 | AVRS | though, probably, there is something else missing… it’s CX3700, should CUPS tell me? |
| 19:50.41 | jim | over? |
| 19:50.53 | AVRS | no more ink of some color |
| 19:50.53 | SexyKen | jim: What X server driver is one supposed to use? |
| 19:51.08 | jim | well which card do you have |
| 19:51.11 | SexyKen | Is nv short for nvidia? |
| 19:51.15 | jim | yes |
| 19:51.23 | SexyKen | Both cards are nvidia chipsets |
| 19:51.25 | SexyKen | So I'll try that |
| 19:51.25 | jim | that's the 2d one |
| 19:51.29 | SexyKen | oh |
| 19:51.30 | SexyKen | Hrm |
| 19:51.36 | SexyKen | Well what the heck then |
| 19:51.39 | SexyKen | Why would I want 2d |
| 19:51.46 | Rat409 | nv=xorg nvidia driver,nvidia= proprietary driver |
| 19:51.48 | jim | so try it for now, we'll get the 3d one working presently |
| 19:51.49 | AVRS | because it is the free driver |
| 19:52.08 | Rat409 | vesa works usually for a failsafe |
| 19:52.25 | AVRS | “nv” is slow, though; a newer driver is being made, which will support 3D at least on some cards, and is already faster. |
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| 19:52.59 | SexyKen | It's asking me for the freaking BusID |
| 19:53.05 | Rat409 | i use the proprietary normally,and the sweet nvdock from google-code |
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| 19:53.12 | Tramp | nebM0ft: matching newlines in sed is tricky. They are only present in the pattern- or holdspace if added explicitely (or by adding lines to the space) but not in normal operation |
| 19:53.14 | AVRS | SexyKen: isn't it optional? |
| 19:53.17 | AVRS | IIRC, it is |
| 19:53.28 | SexyKen | I think so - but I have 2 video cards, so hrm |
| 19:53.41 | AVRS | … |
| 19:53.47 | nebM0ft | Tramp: can I use any other tool instead? |
| 19:53.54 | Rat409 | SexyKen: just hit enter till you can actually select driver use defaults if in doubt |
| 19:54.48 | mutante | why does installing Flash plugin always have to be so complicated, this time its on Lenny, amd64, have "non-free" in sources, have libflash-mozplugin installed, still no Youtube in Iceweasel, google more, people say "try flash-plugin" in non-free", and "add non-free to sources" , i do have non-free in there, and "flash-plugin" cant be found ... |
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| 19:55.27 | AVRS | mutante: does Gnash not support Youtube? |
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| 19:55.30 | SexyKen | It can't detect my video hardware, but it detected my monitor just fine |
| 19:55.32 | chops | mutante: flash plugin (and java too) in amd64 is a pain in the ass |
| 19:55.49 | Tramp | nebM0ft: from the example you give, I'm not really sure, what you are trying to do. The combination of \n and "g" for global looks strange to me. |
| 19:56.01 | SexyKen | Okay I ran the config |
| 19:56.04 | SexyKen | should I give it a shot now? |
| 19:56.06 | xsdg | chops: not really; though it is more of a pain than on i386 |
| 19:56.16 | xsdg | chops: (I can't say anything about java, though) |
| 19:56.23 | chops | xsdg: On i386 it's not a pain at all. aptitude install, the end. |
| 19:56.33 | jim | SexyKen, lspci | grep -i vga | wc -l |
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| 19:56.44 | mutante | AVRS: hmm,i will try |
| 19:56.56 | nebM0ft | Tramp: append the line "e.printStackTrace();" right after every line that has "catch" in it |
| 19:56.56 | chops | AVRS: The last gnash I tried totally botched youtube :-( |
| 19:56.58 | SexyKen | "2" is the result of that command, Jim |
| 19:57.16 | xsdg | mutante: have you tried installing flashplugin-nonfree? |
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| 19:57.30 | jim | the wc -l counted the number of text lines produced by the prev pipe |
| 19:57.44 | chops | xsdg: That package doesn't exist on amd64 last I heard... |
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| 19:57.45 | mutante | Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 19:57.46 | jim | that is, the number of lines that came out of the grep |
| 19:57.47 | xsdg | mutante: I currently am using Adobe Flash with nspluginwrapper (which it looks like flashplugin-nonfree will do for you) |
| 19:57.55 | xsdg | chops: it does currently |
| 19:57.57 | SexyKen | Right...so 2 lines for vga |
| 19:58.12 | xsdg | chops: and depends on nspluginwrapper and ia32libs, which suggests it'll do the right thing |
| 19:58.13 | jim | take off the "| wc -l" and take a look at the two yourself |
| 19:58.14 | Tramp | nebM0ft: ah, so you don't want to replace the "catch..." - that's what the s/// implied. hang on a minute then.... |
| 19:58.26 | chops | xsdg: Oh, rock and roll. It didn't do that for etch. |
| 19:58.32 | SexyKen | Yup, their both nVidia |
| 19:58.39 | jim | which one do you want to try getting to work first? |
| 19:58.47 | xsdg | chops: aah, ::nod:: |
| 19:59.01 | SexyKen | They appear to be the same, except for a device id |
| 19:59.09 | xsdg | chops: I installed stuff manually before someone mentioned the package to me, so I have no idea if it actually works or not |
| 19:59.12 | jim | interesting |
| 19:59.14 | mutante | xsdg: can i do something about "E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate" |
| 19:59.21 | nebM0ft | Tramp: sed '/.*catch.*/ae.printStackTrace();/g' file2 <--Worked :) |
| 19:59.31 | chops | mutante: He's talking about a later release of Debian than you have |
| 19:59.35 | jim | precisely the same? model and everything? |
| 19:59.37 | xsdg | mutante: sorry, it might not exist in branches older than sid |
| 19:59.44 | SexyKen | They're called "Unknown" |
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| 19:59.54 | mutante | uhm, ok, i just upgraded from etch to lenny |
| 20:00.04 | jim | that's not particularly good news... |
| 20:00.27 | jim | but |
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| 20:00.47 | jim | let's see how to get the device number into the right format |
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| 20:01.12 | lepton | trying to netinst etch. installer hangs every time at 38% of "starting up partitioner". wtf? |
| 20:01.16 | SexyKen | I'm not sure I understand? |
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| 20:01.33 | peleg | what "s" means in permissions? |
| 20:01.34 | jim | if you look at the device numbers from lspci |
| 20:01.43 | jim | set(something)id |
| 20:01.43 | peleg | i.e.: drwxr-sr-x 5 root svn 1024 Feb 28 14:31 db |
| 20:01.46 | mutante | i also cant find results on "apt-cache search gnash"...:( trying the ndiswrapper method .. |
| 20:01.53 | jim | setgroupid |
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| 20:02.07 | xsdg | mutante: s#ndiswrapper#nspluginwrapper# |
| 20:02.14 | xsdg | mutante: ndiswrapper has nothing to do with flash |
| 20:02.18 | peleg | jim: but what does that mean? |
| 20:02.24 | innocuou1 | xsdg: what a horrid delimiter! |
| 20:02.34 | xsdg | innocuou1: why? |
| 20:02.35 | SexyKen | Jim: one line looks just like this: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation unkown device 03d1 (rev a 2) |
| 20:02.57 | SexyKen | The other is: 02:00.0 VGA Compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unkown device 0421 (rev a 1) |
| 20:02.59 | mutante | xsdg: oh,sure, that was a typo, googled the right thing |
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| 20:03.05 | xsdg | mutante: :o) |
| 20:03.41 | SexyKen | Should I use the "nvidia-xconfig" package? |
| 20:04.06 | innocuou1 | xsdg: I don't know, I think it's just where the # is relatively huge to something like / |
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| 20:04.35 | jim | oh, so one of your cards is a 0421 and the other is a 03d1 |
| 20:04.49 | xsdg | innocuou1: well, when you start doing replacements on URLs and UNIX paths, it makes sense to use something that's not "/" |
| 20:04.52 | SexyKen | I suppose?? Hehe :-\ |
| 20:05.01 | jim | those are the model numbers in lspcispeek |
| 20:05.01 | SexyKen | I didn't realize X was this hard to get rgoing |
| 20:05.02 | innocuou1 | xsdg: yeah, I forget when I tend to do that |
| 20:05.18 | jim | well it's just your video card at the moment |
| 20:05.25 | SexyKen | It's really an 8500 though |
| 20:05.26 | mutante | heh, or i could try "alien" on the official Adobe rpm |
| 20:05.29 | SexyKen | GeForce 8500GT |
| 20:05.34 | xsdg | mutante: you won't enjoy that |
| 20:05.42 | SexyKen | The other onboard is just some random something or other |
| 20:06.06 | xsdg | mutante: alien will make the rpm installable, but it won't necessarily do the right thing or put files in the right places |
| 20:06.39 | jim | how do you get lspci to output bus ID numbers in the form accepted by the configuration script? |
| 20:06.57 | xsdg | jim: something other than `lspci -n`? |
| 20:07.01 | jim | "by the xserver-xorg configuration script" |
| 20:07.20 | xsdg | jim: oh, xorg.conf just wants the number on the far left |
| 20:07.31 | xsdg | jim: (possibly without the .0 or something) |
| 20:07.54 | jim | SexyKen: from the two lines, show the bus id strings |
| 20:08.00 | mutante | "Copy the libflashpalyer.so and flashplayer.xpt to" ,bah, there is no .xpt file in the Adobe tar.gz anymore |
| 20:08.03 | SexyKen | Ther eis no bus id? |
| 20:08.19 | xsdg | in my case, BoardName "G72 [GeForce 7300 SE]" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" |
| 20:08.21 | SexyKen | 00:0d.0 and 02:00.0 you mean? |
| 20:08.27 | jim | yeah |
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| 20:08.40 | peleg | ok, I do (again and again) 'chmod -R g=rwx /var/www/freeall.org', but still I get 'drwxr-sr-x 5 root svn 1024 Feb 28 14:31 db' - I can't understand what this "s" doing there... |
| 20:08.43 | SexyKen | Why does yours look so much more proper than mine? |
| 20:08.47 | xsdg | SexyKen: PCI:2:0:0 maps to 02:00.0 on my machine |
| 20:08.55 | xsdg | SexyKen: it's a trivial transformation |
| 20:09.06 | dondelelcaro | peleg: that's g+s; nothing terribly exiting ther.e |
| 20:09.21 | SexyKen | Is that on board or pci-x? |
| 20:09.23 | xsdg | peleg: `man chmod` |
| 20:09.29 | xsdg | SexyKen: pci express |
| 20:09.43 | dondelelcaro | !tell peleg -about permissions |
| 20:09.45 | xsdg | (which is different than pci-x; not sure if you were aware or not) |
| 20:09.46 | SexyKen | Okay so that means the 02:00.0 should be my pci-x and the 00:0d.0 should be m onboard? |
| 20:09.51 | peleg | thanks you all |
| 20:10.00 | SexyKen | Yea, that's true |
| 20:10.03 | SexyKen | pci-e |
| 20:10.19 | xsdg | SexyKen: well, 00: will be onboard off of the PCI bus, I believe |
| 20:10.39 | SexyKen | I dont get what I'm supposed to do now, jim? |
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| 20:11.01 | jim | start by doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 20:11.06 | jim | use nv driver |
| 20:11.18 | jim | and configure -one- of the cards for now |
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| 20:11.48 | jim | (the idea is get you going initially, once you do that you can figure out how to get different things going later) |
| 20:12.15 | SexyKen | So what is my card's bus identifer |
| 20:13.00 | SexyKen | PCI:2:0:0 |
| 20:13.01 | SexyKen | ? |
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| 20:14.26 | jim | I guess that would be the external one |
| 20:15.08 | peleg | dondelelcaro: ok, still - that's not good enough for me, because it mean that I can't force that folder be writable by the group... |
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| 20:15.32 | dondelelcaro | peleg: that's why you chmod g+w foodir; |
| 20:15.43 | jim | peleg: try chmod g+w that-folder |
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| 20:16.17 | holst | Hi! I have made a debian package which has a /etc configuration file for a specific pacakge (openafs-client) |
| 20:16.18 | BUMBACL0T | how can i edit X config by hand so i can add a resolution |
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| 20:16.46 | holst | how can I integrate my package in such a way, so apt-get does not ask for config but uses my package for config? |
| 20:16.46 | SexyKen | Okay ran the thing and now I have a black screen again |
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| 20:16.54 | SexyKen | and I killed Xorg from ssh, and it's still black |
| 20:17.01 | BUMBACL0T | !dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:17.01 | dpkg | somebody said dpkg-reconfigure was a tool used to reconfigure packages |
| 20:17.18 | dondelelcaro | holst: it will always ask whether you want to replace the configuration if the administrator has made changes to conffiles. |
| 20:17.23 | dondelelcaro | holst: not doing so is insane. |
| 20:17.23 | xsdg | SexyKen: ssh in, then as root run `chvt 2` |
| 20:17.30 | peleg | dondelelcaro: thanks.. |
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| 20:18.05 | SexyKen | I ran that - nothing happened really |
| 20:18.11 | SexyKen | Just gave me a new bash line |
| 20:18.24 | holst | dondelelcaro: yes but some packages has bugs |
| 20:18.26 | holst | like openafs |
| 20:18.31 | holst | it overwrites the conf files |
| 20:18.49 | holst | but can i put them in BEFORE all other packages in some way? |
| 20:18.56 | holst | like install my package before anything else? |
| 20:19.05 | dondelelcaro | holst: it better not be overwriting configuration files |
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| 20:19.48 | dondelelcaro | holst: if it is, file a bug at severity serious. Just mark your configuration files as conffiles, and dpkg will do the right thing. |
| 20:19.55 | holst | I have already done so |
| 20:19.59 | holst | (filed a bug) |
| 20:20.05 | jim | SexyKen: and the display is still "crashed"? |
| 20:20.21 | holst | but I have still this isseu, how can I apt-get my config files into the system? |
| 20:20.54 | dutchfish | holst, why not alter and repack the faulty package? |
| 20:20.58 | holst | I can make my package install AFTER all the other packages by putting them in pre-depends |
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| 20:21.10 | dondelelcaro | holst: lets back up here. You mean you want to install a deb package which causes your special configuration to be installed? |
| 20:21.20 | xsdg | holst: what config file? |
| 20:21.25 | holst | yes, thats it. openafs, kerberos, ldap, cups, ... |
| 20:21.34 | SexyKen | Yea, still. |
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| 20:22.19 | holst | I am just very unsure about how I can do this *correctly* |
| 20:22.20 | xsdg | SexyKen: I think there may be a misunderstanding here. Do you have a login prompt? can you type at it? |
| 20:22.38 | holst | and not break everything possible to break :) |
| 20:22.38 | SexyKen | No - only if I SSH in.... |
| 20:22.42 | dondelelcaro | holst: there's no way of doing it correctly, because packages are prohibited by policy with altering the configuration of other packages. |
| 20:22.48 | xsdg | SexyKen: aah, :o( |
| 20:23.00 | SexyKen | If I run X locally, at the console, it give sme a big black screen |
| 20:23.02 | SexyKen | No commands work |
| 20:23.04 | SexyKen | you cant see anything |
| 20:23.05 | SexyKen | but black |
| 20:23.09 | SexyKen | But you can ssh in just fine |
| 20:23.15 | holst | dondelelcaro: so? how can I do this? I cannot use deb files for a customization? |
| 20:23.31 | mutante | xsdg: meanwhile i have shockwave flash listed in about:plugins and YouTube doesnt show the "You dont have Flash" message anymore, but it also doesnt play anthing and Iceweasel crashes.. buhuu |
| 20:23.45 | dondelelcaro | holst: however, since this is presumably you're doing this for local consumption, you can simple put your special configuration in some directory somewhere, and in your postinst call ucf or otherwise cause the configuration files to be replaced. |
| 20:24.11 | holst | ucf, ok |
| 20:24.11 | dondelelcaro | holst: or better, you can use one of the many tools that put configuration files under a VCS, and use them instead. |
| 20:24.26 | holst | hmm? |
| 20:24.30 | holst | that sounds interesting |
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| 20:24.55 | holst | dondelelcaro: can you make openafs package for instance use a VCS instead of the shipped /etc/openafs/ files? |
| 20:25.18 | holst | that would be awesome |
| 20:25.21 | xsdg | mutante: do you see anything on the console? |
| 20:25.33 | holst | best debian install ever :) |
| 20:25.43 | holst | ldap, kerberos and vcs config files |
| 20:26.02 | jim | under arch/tla :) |
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| 20:26.47 | mutante | xsdg: "LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /home/mutante/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [/home/mutante/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32]" :/ |
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| 20:27.01 | cottima | Hello, I am trying to do an netinstall, but my campus uses Cisco Clean Access. I cannot login onto it unless I have a browser. |
| 20:27.04 | mutante | xsdg: i see, this is cause i have amd64 |
| 20:27.30 | xsdg | mutante: do you have npwrapper.libflashplayer.so in .mozilla/plugins/ also? |
| 20:27.42 | lkthomas | 56 23 * * * <-- guys, is it means this cronjob will run @ 23:56 everyday ? |
| 20:27.49 | jim | cottima: do you have the net istall cd? |
| 20:27.55 | dondelelcaro | holst: no, you'd just install it, then push the config files over the top of it. |
| 20:27.59 | xsdg | lkthomas: I believe so, yes |
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| 20:28.10 | lkthomas | ok, thanks |
| 20:28.16 | mutante | xsdg: yes |
| 20:28.23 | cottima | jim, yes I do. |
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| 20:28.45 | xsdg | mutante: what do filename and version say for the flash plugin? |
| 20:28.49 | jim | cottima: start by installing from it; tell it to not configure the net at this time |
| 20:28.51 | shib | what the heck is the glib2.0 default etch package called?! |
| 20:29.15 | shib | (trying to install GTK... getting this error: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.13.5... |
| 20:29.15 | shib | *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.14.5, but GLIB (2.12.4)) |
| 20:29.37 | shib | so... the old glib is still on here somewhere... but i can't find it in synaptic... |
| 20:29.41 | xsdg | shib: do you have a glib in /usr/local? |
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| 20:29.54 | lkthomas | guys, if I did log rotate daily, does it means at 0000 log will start to rotate ? |
| 20:29.59 | Eulex | shib, what, why are you compiling gtk? |
| 20:30.03 | jim | cottima: get the base installed, boot into it, at least you'll be in a better position |
| 20:30.04 | shib | xsdg, nope |
| 20:30.23 | mutante | xsdg: File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115 |
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| 20:30.39 | shib | i have a /usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include though |
| 20:30.51 | xsdg | shib: :o) |
| 20:30.57 | cottima | jim, sorry, I should be honest, mine is only 9.1MB, and it is for ubuntu. I was just wondering if anyone knew about netinstalls and clean access. |
| 20:31.21 | Eulex | shib, and why do you have 2.14.5 on etch? etch has 2.12.4. upgrading _will_ cause problems. |
| 20:31.32 | cottima | jim, I tried to boot other live cds and they fail, because they cannot find the cd root after hitting enter. |
| 20:31.35 | dondelelcaro | holst: see etckeeper |
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| 20:32.09 | Eulex | shib, if you don't upgrade the other programs too to lenny/sid versions, in which case you're not on etch anymore... |
| 20:32.32 | shib | nah, don't want sid, just a few new apps |
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| 20:32.36 | xsdg | mutante: hmm... not sure what to say |
| 20:32.44 | Eulex | shib, are they in sid? |
| 20:32.56 | shib | yep, but i don't want all of sid |
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| 20:32.57 | xsdg | mutante: are you sure you've got no instances of iceweasel running? |
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| 20:33.31 | Eulex | !tell shib about simple sid backport |
| 20:33.36 | Eulex | shib, and downgrade your glib. |
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| 20:34.04 | jim | cottima, I don't know how those work. but I do know you would need a netinstall medium which contains (1) all of the installer and (2) all of the base |
| 20:34.06 | shib | Eulex, ristretto needs gtk 2.10+ |
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| 20:34.21 | shib | and i'm sick of having to open all my images in gimp, when i just want a quick look |
| 20:34.21 | jim | anyway, gotta go |
| 20:34.28 | mutante | xsdg: while executing the nspluginwrapper commands? uhmm ,no |
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| 20:35.05 | Eulex | shib, there are other simple image viewers. and I repeat, upgrading gtk or glib on etch _will_ cause problems. |
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| 20:35.23 | shib | such as? |
| 20:35.27 | daybot | hey, i just installed vncserver on my debian machine, and can connect to it fine from a remote machine, but the problem is that my desktop is just a blank gray screen |
| 20:35.28 | shib | after recompiling xfce to use it |
| 20:35.53 | heatman_ | Can someone tell me what the max amount of screen that etch can handle at the same time? ie: WinXP Pro is 7 if im not mistaken |
| 20:35.57 | xsdg | mutante: no, just since running them |
| 20:36.18 | xsdg | mutante: if iceweasel died, though, then you're probably fine (though I have no idea why it wouldn't be working properly) |
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| 20:36.20 | cottima | Thank you Jim! |
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| 20:37.08 | Eulex | shib, well, new gtk/glib versions do change the api slightly. programs were not made for this. every time a new gtk/glib version comes out, often many programs will not work 100% correctly with it. they will have to be fixed. the programs in etch have often not been tested thoroughly with newer gtk versions than what is in it, which is 2.8. |
| 20:37.09 | holst | dondelelcaro: thanks a million for your help |
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| 20:37.32 | Flav0r | hi |
| 20:37.37 | HSorgYves | morning, if i want to use a partition under Debian for InnoDB, how to format it? |
| 20:37.41 | Flav0r | wie heißt nochmal der kommandozeilen editor für debian |
| 20:37.46 | Flav0r | arg |
| 20:37.47 | shib | well then include an image viewer for us poor shlubs on xfce |
| 20:38.04 | Flav0r | wrong channel |
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| 20:38.36 | Eulex | shib, there are many. qiv, gqview, etc. |
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| 20:38.47 | mutante | xsdg: unfortunately i can repeat it also after "killall iceweasel". so does "wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32" mean its cause i am not i386? is there ELFCLASS64 too? |
| 20:38.57 | Eulex | shib, I'm on xfce too, and I use qiv. |
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| 20:39.22 | eifzon | is nopaste avaible for debian? |
| 20:39.28 | xsdg | mutante: it's complaining about one of the two files in the plugins directory; you can ignore the warning |
| 20:39.38 | xsdg | eifzon: just use a pastesite and copy the resultant url (for instance, rafb.net/paste/) |
| 20:39.57 | streuner | eifzon: paste.debian.net ;-) |
| 20:40.16 | eifzon | streuner: but I wanna write like nopaste configname in terminal |
| 20:40.54 | mutante | xsdg: there was also no .xpt file in the .tar.gz from Adobe, like the tutorial mentioned, so i only copied the .so file .. but shrug,, thanks for trying |
| 20:41.14 | shib | Eulex, yeah... do you have anything that could maybe rotate a picture? some other basic stuff? |
| 20:41.23 | shib | qiv's not terrible... but it's close! :D |
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| 20:41.26 | xsdg | mutante: yeah, I just have two .so files (one with the nspluginwrapper. prefix, one without), and it just works for me |
| 20:41.37 | amphi | shib: gthumb is not bad |
| 20:41.42 | Eulex | shib, :D try pressing k and l while viewing an image |
| 20:41.47 | xsdg | mutante: notably, I set this up some time ago, so my version is 9.0r48 |
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| 20:41.50 | digits | can i run several sites on one php fastcgi thread or do i have to have one for each site? |
| 20:41.53 | shib | noooooooo keyboard shortcuts only plx!!! |
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| 20:42.16 | drwahl | !test |
| 20:42.16 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 20:42.16 | shib | amphi, i'm on xfce |
| 20:42.39 | amphi | shib: I run a standalone wm - what's your point? |
| 20:42.39 | xsdg | shib: gqview |
| 20:42.54 | Eulex | gthumb can be used nevertheless. you'll just have to live with the little extra hdd space the gnome libs use. |
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| 20:43.05 | xsdg | shib: it's not being developed currently, which is a shame, but it works great |
| 20:43.05 | streuner | eifzon: sorry, can you rephrase your question? |
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| 20:43.26 | Eulex | there's also pornview, if you can stand the name |
| 20:43.37 | Eulex | and the icon |
| 20:43.48 | mutante | xsdg: open dsp: No such file or directory , Segmentation fault . Maybe i should try setting up sound first :p |
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| 20:43.50 | shib | xsdg, nice one :) |
| 20:43.53 | eifzon | streuner: is there a application so I can be avaible to post configs threw terminal? |
| 20:43.54 | streuner | eifzon: you want a website where you can paste stuff from a config-file, right? |
| 20:43.56 | eifzon | a easy way |
| 20:44.00 | shib | pornview? sounds fun :D |
| 20:44.00 | eifzon | streuner: no |
| 20:44.08 | xsdg | shib: hmm? |
| 20:44.14 | xsdg | mutante: ooh, yeah |
| 20:44.15 | shib | gqview |
| 20:44.19 | shib | is good |
| 20:44.26 | xsdg | shib: aah, ::nod:: |
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| 20:44.59 | amphi | xsdg: me too; it's not in lenny though |
| 20:45.13 | Pete_B | What syntax do I use to 'mv -ui directoryA directoryB' to move all files from directoryA into directoryB where each have the same sub-directory structure and a lot of the same files? |
| 20:45.25 | xsdg | amphi: aww :o( |
| 20:45.33 | streuner | eifzon: cut and paste should be available via gpm |
| 20:45.42 | eifzon | streuner: I am sshing |
| 20:45.47 | amphi | xsdg: indeed |
| 20:45.53 | eifzon | streuner: just got a terminal to use :P |
| 20:46.12 | xsdg | eifzon: gpm? |
| 20:46.33 | eifzon | xsdg: my friend had a program so he wrote like nopaste /path/to/file and he got a url |
| 20:46.36 | eifzon | :) |
| 20:46.46 | amphi | xsdg: it's in sid, it seems |
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| 20:47.01 | xsdg | amphi: yeah, no idea why it's not in lenny; maybe an RC bug? |
| 20:47.10 | amphi | yeah, buggery |
| 20:47.18 | SexyKen | Well I guess I have to install fucking windows now dammnit |
| 20:47.46 | drwahl | SexyKen: wait... what? i totally missed the last 30-45 min. why do you have to switch? |
| 20:48.04 | danhs | hey, I have a rather simple question.....if I want to move a config file, vsftpd, in this case...what's the best way to make /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf the active config file instead of /etc/vsftpd.conf? |
| 20:48.04 | danhs | I realize I can just monkey around in /etc/init.d/vsftpd, but I figure that would screw up the apt-get settings and all that |
| 20:48.04 | danhs | my real motivation here is that I'd like to put my ftp ssl keys into the /etc/vsftpd/ directory....which I think is a good place to store them |
| 20:48.18 | SexyKen | drwahl: X wont work - it just delivers a black screen |
| 20:48.29 | SexyKen | My nvidia cards are showing up as "Unkown" devices |
| 20:48.40 | streuner | SexyKen: lspci -v | grep -i vga |
| 20:48.43 | SexyKen | And I can't even get a valid bus id from them |
| 20:48.44 | SexyKen | I did that |
| 20:48.45 | xsdg | SexyKen: I don't think that's a problem |
| 20:48.46 | drwahl | SexyKen: what card(s) do you have? |
| 20:48.47 | Eulex | SexyKen, what nvidia cards? |
| 20:48.54 | abrotman | SexyKen: update-pciids |
| 20:49.03 | xsdg | SexyKen: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 01d3 (rev a1) |
| 20:49.03 | drwahl | As you can see, we are all trying to keep you away from the dark side :) |
| 20:49.04 | streuner | SexyKen: do what abrotman told you |
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| 20:49.11 | xsdg | SexyKen: that's mine, and I have no problems |
| 20:49.12 | streuner | haha |
| 20:49.15 | SexyKen | 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 03d1 (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
| 20:49.28 | chops | danhs: You could try modifying the init script and also using dpkg-divert to tell dpkg to put the file in a different place |
| 20:49.35 | streuner | SexyKen: did you do what abrotman told you before? |
| 20:49.40 | chops | danhs: Of course, there's no guarantee that postrm scripts and such will still behave correctly |
| 20:49.46 | SexyKen | Yea I just ran it...what now? |
| 20:49.48 | abrotman | xsdg: update-pciids! |
| 20:49.49 | danhs | postrm? |
| 20:49.52 | SexyKen | Woah! |
| 20:49.56 | xsdg | abrotman: I'm lazy |
| 20:49.57 | abrotman | SexyKen: lspci | grep VGA |
| 20:49.58 | chops | danhs: But making a symlink to the the diverted location would help a lot I bet |
| 20:49.59 | SexyKen | 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6100 nForce 405 (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) |
| 20:50.08 | streuner | here we go |
| 20:50.09 | xsdg | abrotman: thanks for the tip, though |
| 20:50.12 | abrotman | xsdg: "I would, but i'm too busy preparing to graduate" :) |
| 20:50.31 | Eulex | SexyKen, update-pciids? |
| 20:50.32 | danhs | chops: that helps. thanks....by init location you mean /etc/init.d, right? just want to make sure I'm on the same page |
| 20:50.42 | FordCortina | for some reason aptitude update is always complaining about debian-unofficials pubkey, when ive added it with apt-key... any ideas what to do? |
| 20:50.43 | streuner | Eulex: he already did |
| 20:50.45 | danhs | chops: putting ssl key and cert in the /etc/vsftpd is a good location, right? |
| 20:50.48 | SexyKen | But now dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg still says No X server known for your video hardwware |
| 20:50.50 | Eulex | oh, still no go? |
| 20:50.56 | chops | danhs: The best thing to do will be to stick with the Debian defaults IMHO |
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| 20:51.05 | Eulex | SexyKen, tried the nv driver? |
| 20:51.08 | SexyKen | Yea |
| 20:51.15 | danhs | chops: okay.....there's no *default* place to put certificate and keys tho..... |
| 20:51.20 | danhs | but I understand what you mean |
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| 20:51.22 | Pete_B | FordCortina: maybe it ran out |
| 20:51.25 | streuner | SexyKen: try "VESA" |
| 20:51.32 | Eulex | SexyKen, do you have any idea yourself what model your nvidia card is? is it new or old? |
| 20:51.33 | chops | danhs: But you can put them in /etc/vsftpd without moving the .conf file, right? |
| 20:51.42 | SexyKen | Now it's asking for "Video Card's bus identifier" |
| 20:51.43 | streuner | SexyKen: and choose low resultions |
| 20:51.44 | chops | danhs: In /etc/vsftpd strikes me as a fine place to put them, yes |
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| 20:51.52 | streuner | SexyKen: no |
| 20:51.56 | SexyKen | Defaults to PCI:0:13:0 .... |
| 20:52.03 | FordCortina | Pete_B: apt-key says: [expires: 2009-02-01] |
| 20:52.04 | streuner | just hit enter |
| 20:52.06 | danhs | chops: fair enough. I guess I had it in my head that I wanted the certs tied to the program install in case I want to remove it or something.... |
| 20:52.18 | alech | hi, I am trying to set up SASL with postfix. SASL complains about not being able to open /etc/sasldb2, even though I've set it to use PAM. Any ideas? |
| 20:52.29 | Pete_B | FordCortina: what is its complaint? |
| 20:52.30 | xsdg | SexyKen: aah, that makes sense (note that "0xD" in hexadecimal is "13" in decimal) |
| 20:52.56 | chops | Would people object to me adding a statement "see also z25 for the preferred approach" to the ifrename factoid? |
| 20:53.04 | FordCortina | Pete_B: W: GPG error: http://ftp.tiscali.nl testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 394D199524C52AC3 |
| 20:53.07 | Eulex | SexyKen, ah, sorry, I did miss the message where you had updated your pci-ids... |
| 20:53.10 | chops | To me z25 > ifrename, but I'm not sure that that's universal here... |
| 20:53.19 | SexyKen | Then what would this one be in hex: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8500 GT (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) |
| 20:53.21 | FordCortina | Pete_B: its the same with the "official" mirror |
| 20:53.24 | abrotman | FordCortina: aptitude install debian-keyring |
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| 20:53.26 | xsdg | SexyKen: yup |
| 20:53.26 | streuner | FordCortina: use an official debian mirror |
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| 20:53.36 | SexyKen | xsdg: What would that one be? |
| 20:53.38 | streuner | FordCortina: ftp.nl.debian.org |
| 20:53.55 | xsdg | SexyKen: that would still be 2:0:0 |
| 20:54.03 | Pete_B | FordCortina: I don't know. may be worth checking the web site of whomever's key it is, see if there's a message about it |
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| 20:55.22 | chops | !ifrename |
| 20:55.22 | dpkg | ifrename is probably a utility which sets interface names based on parameters such as MAC address. Very handy if different kernels or kernel modules assign different identifiers to your interfaces, or just to make your firewall rules more readable. ifrename is semi-deprecated in favor of z25; see <z25> for more. http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3586546 |
| 20:55.33 | SexyKen | I think I know what's happening |
| 20:55.37 | SexyKen | it's trying to configure the onboard driver |
| 20:55.37 | Lectus | is this http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ an official debian installer? |
| 20:55.47 | SexyKen | with settings for my 24" monitor, which is not connected to the onbard video card |
| 20:55.57 | SexyKen | The onboard isconnected toa small 19" |
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| 20:56.39 | Pete_B | What syntax do I use to 'mv -ui directoryA directoryB' where each has the same sub-directory structure and a lot of the same files? |
| 20:57.14 | SexyKen | When I change the bus id to 2:0:0 |
| 20:57.19 | SexyKen | It says |
| 20:57.23 | SexyKen | a couple errors |
| 20:57.35 | chops | Pete_B: From the source directory: |
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| 20:57.59 | SexyKen | NV: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:13:0) found No devices detected |
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| 20:58.25 | DaniloCesar | faw, Hi there |
| 20:58.29 | chops | Pete_B: for x in `find . -type d`; do mkdir -p thedestinationdir/"$x"; done; for x in `find . -type f`; do mv -i "$x" thedestinationdir/"$x"; done |
| 20:58.38 | chops | Pete_B: Caution: I typed those above without testing them. |
| 20:58.53 | faw | DaniloCesar, geeee |
| 20:59.04 | faw | DaniloCesar, you should actually _talk_ with me |
| 20:59.06 | Pete_B | chops: jeez... thankyou. seems a tad over complicated for just copying and replacing only if newer |
| 20:59.17 | SexyKen | It's not workign at all |
| 20:59.20 | SexyKen | This is so frustrating |
| 20:59.26 | chops | Pete_B: That's not copying, that's moving |
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| 20:59.35 | DaniloCesar | faw, I'm a nerd.... I don't talk LOL =) |
| 20:59.38 | chops | Pete_B: There's probably a set of cp options to do the copy only if newer |
| 20:59.47 | Pete_B | chops: yeah, move, sorry |
| 20:59.51 | streuner | SexyKen: ok, dude, now we going the easy way :-) |
| 21:00.00 | Pete_B | chops: nice one for dragging that out of your head |
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| 21:00.12 | streuner | SexyKen: download grml - live CD and just copy the config |
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| 21:00.29 | chops | Pete_B: It's really not that complex... shell syntax looks mystifying if you're not used to it, but those lines are actually very simple. |
| 21:00.33 | streuner | SexyKen: or knoppix - both are surely using VESA |
| 21:00.49 | chops | Pete_B: "Make directories in the target for all directories in the source; move all the files in the source to the target" |
| 21:00.54 | chops | Pete_B: Easy peasy :-) |
| 21:01.11 | Pete_B | chops: I guess if I were to see it with indentation it would be striaght forward |
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| 21:01.21 | chops | Pete_B: Probably more so, yeah |
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| 21:02.07 | Pete_B | chops: why can't I do 'mv -ui directoryA/*.* directoryB/ -R'? |
| 21:02.08 | SexyKen | huh, Streuner? |
| 21:02.36 | streuner | SexyKen: its more frustrating that you give up that fast |
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| 21:02.47 | SexyKen | But nothing is working. |
| 21:02.54 | chops | Pete_B: Because * doesn't work like that -- it's expanded by the shell in a way that's often surprising |
| 21:03.08 | chops | Pete_B: See also the Unix Hater's Handbook chapter on the shell and how much it sucks :-) |
| 21:03.11 | SexyKen | And it makes aboslutely no sense that it doesn't. |
| 21:03.24 | Pete_B | chops: thanks, I will |
| 21:03.24 | drwahl | streuner: he has been working on this for a few days, so he's not JUST giving up. but i still think he should continue he pesuit |
| 21:03.28 | drwahl | *persuit |
| 21:03.46 | xsdg | drwahl: "pursuit" :o) |
| 21:03.51 | streuner | drwahl: thats even more sad |
| 21:03.51 | drwahl | thanks |
| 21:03.53 | drwahl | :) |
| 21:04.09 | streuner | SexyKen: why didnt you just use a LIVE-CD then? |
| 21:04.19 | drwahl | meh... i'm at work and cant worry about spelling! there are trouble tickets that need my attention! lol |
| 21:04.22 | junix|work | hi, i am having a problem getting a script to run in my .profile for other users, i'm not sure why, but i've just added users to the system |
| 21:04.23 | SexyKen | What do you mean ? |
| 21:04.41 | streuner | drwahl: and even more frustrating that he didnt even update his pci db... |
| 21:04.52 | streuner | !grml |
| 21:04.52 | dpkg | grml is a bootable CD (Live-CD) originally <based on> Knoppix and Debian. grml includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of texttools and system administrators. grml provides automatic hardware detection. You can use grml for example as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ |
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| 21:05.07 | chops | Pete_B: There's a python-based shell called hotwire (IIRC) that tries to have a more logical syntax, but IMHO they stuff it all up by abandoning the principle of communicating via plain text between functional pieces. You might want to check it out as a (not-yet-mature) alternative to bash for complex tasks, though. |
| 21:05.09 | streuner | SexyKen: download the iso and use it ^^^ |
| 21:05.19 | Tramp | Pete_B: what you are trying to do looks like a use-case for rsync to me anyways |
| 21:05.26 | SexyKen | Why would I want to run off of a CD when I have hard drives? |
| 21:05.30 | SexyKen | you're confusing me now |
| 21:06.02 | Pete_B | chops: great I'll check that out too, could be a useful tool for odd situations |
| 21:06.28 | chops | Pete_B: Once you get used to shell programming, you'll find the "odd" situations become more and more common :-) |
| 21:06.30 | Pete_B | Tramp: maybe so, but this is just a one-off |
| 21:06.35 | chops | Pete_B: And your tasks often get done faster... |
| 21:06.39 | chops | Pete_B: Nod |
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| 21:07.04 | Tramp | Pete_B: it is possible to use rsync only once 8) |
| 21:07.36 | Pete_B | Tramp: I was imagining having to install it and learn its syntax but I see it's already on my system |
| 21:07.52 | Pete_B | chops: there's no hotwire in debian |
| 21:07.54 | chops | Pete_B: rsync is also a very good solution |
| 21:08.19 | chops | !info hotwire sid |
| 21:08.21 | dpkg | hotwire: (Extensible graphical command execution shell), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.710-1 (sid), Packaged size: 203 kB, Installed size: 1162 kB |
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| 21:08.47 | Pete_B | chops: sorry I should have looked at p.d.o. |
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| 21:10.07 | Pete_B | rsyncs looking good |
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| 21:11.01 | Tramp | Pete_B: check on the "--update" and "--remove-source-files" options (given your requirements and the fact that you wanted to mv, not cp). Check with --dry-run first. |
| 21:11.31 | Pete_B | Tramp: thanks |
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| 21:14.14 | agiofws_ | hi has anyone installed vmware on debian ? |
| 21:14.31 | Superbartt | which vmware? |
| 21:15.01 | chops | agiofws_: Someone has, certainly. |
| 21:15.44 | abrotman | agiofws_: ask a better question |
| 21:16.08 | agiofws_ | ok |
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| 21:16.13 | agiofws_ | sorry guys |
| 21:16.17 | Superbartt | or don't ask any question at all :] |
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| 21:16.56 | Luck | hey, im trying to install vmware tools and when i do it tells me that gcc is missing |
| 21:17.11 | Eulex | !b-e Luck |
| 21:17.11 | dpkg | Luck: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 21:17.14 | Superbartt | install gcc! |
| 21:17.38 | Luck | word, i was looking for that |
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| 21:20.01 | Luck | !one-liner |
| 21:20.14 | Luck | !o-l |
| 21:20.16 | digits | i want turn off apache2 from auto-starting, should i use update-rc.d apache2 remove for that? |
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| 21:20.41 | abrotman | Luck: do you need help? |
| 21:20.47 | abrotman | digits: yes |
| 21:20.55 | digits | abrotman: thanks |
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| 21:21.03 | Pete_B | for anyone that was reading along at home: rsync -avz --update --remove-source-files directoryA/ directoryB |
| 21:21.14 | Luck | abrotman: how do i make this bot answer me |
| 21:21.17 | Luck | via pm |
| 21:21.28 | abrotman | Luck: you have to ask it something it knows about .. |
| 21:21.44 | abrotman | and one-liner is not something it knows about |
| 21:21.54 | Eulex | Luck, try listkeys keyword or listvalues keyword |
| 21:22.01 | abrotman | Luck: what do you need help with? |
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| 21:22.34 | Luck | one-liner for reconfiguring xserver |
| 21:22.43 | abrotman | !drxx Luck |
| 21:22.43 | dpkg | Luck: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
| 21:23.11 | Luck | thanks |
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| 21:23.42 | Tramp | digits: But if you do it this way, read "man update-rc.d" first and search for "administration error" |
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| 21:24.31 | fedya | what was the best way for finding the closest mirror? |
| 21:25.08 | chops | fedya: netselect |
| 21:25.49 | digits | Tramp: read that, i like to read manuals - thus i can't blame anybody for my wrong-doings... but it helps to be absolutely sure, i'm not the best sys-admin (wannabe) in the world |
| 21:25.52 | digits | :P |
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| 21:27.14 | fedya | what's the other one netselect didnt work for me last time i remember |
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| 21:31.19 | holst | etckeeper wasnt trivial, I wont have time to figure it out. but it seems very promesing |
| 21:31.19 | vanksi | i need to setup a temp remote backup over the internet, about 8 hosts to 1 backup server, is scp the way to go? |
| 21:31.25 | vanksi | or ftp |
| 21:31.36 | holst | I will just have to revert to a sucky tarball extraction |
| 21:32.00 | vanksi | the amount of data that will be transferred is about 30GB/night over a 10MBit line |
| 21:32.05 | eth01 | !ftp |
| 21:32.06 | dpkg | hmm... ftp is (File Transfer Protocol) This is a method of moving files from system to system using TCP/IP. There are three sane kinds of ftp: anonymous, encrypted and unprivileged (non-unix users). Unencrypted ftp using unix users will get your box pwn3d as fast as running windows on your firewall machine. |
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| 21:34.00 | eifzon | hmm, how can I fix so my ftp user is just avaible to access the ftp folder? using (vsftpd) |
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| 21:34.18 | XoX | anyone know what .ICEauthority is , and why i can't use xauth merge with it? |
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| 21:35.26 | Catsceo | I have a long question so I put it in a pastebin, please read: http://pastebin.ca/922564 |
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| 21:37.36 | my007ms | i use wget to get all file from internet |
| 21:37.47 | my007ms | i need to use lftp but i missing |
| 21:38.02 | my007ms | this report that say what speed was |
| 21:38.19 | my007ms | is there somehow make me know what speed of my ftp connection |
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| 21:40.13 | chops | my007ms: wget should report what speed it got downloading the file(s) |
| 21:40.20 | tacit | my007ms: My little sister can divide numbers on a sheet of paper. |
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| 21:41.02 | my007ms | chops but lftp don't |
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| 21:41.26 | chops | my007ms: Does it tell you how long it took to download? How many files are you downloading? |
| 21:41.33 | moshisushi | my computer freezes randomly and i get this message: EIP: [<e088bb64>] e100_exec_cb+0x65/0xcb [e100] SS:ESP 0068:dfd67a44.. and then "Kernal panic - not syncing Fatal exception in interrupt" |
| 21:41.46 | moshisushi | i reinstalled debian and it's still the same |
| 21:41.58 | chops | moshisushi: What kernel? Any binary modules (e.g. nvidia driver)? |
| 21:42.05 | tacit | moshisushi: e100 looks like your ethernet card |
| 21:42.10 | my007ms | chops no it's not like this report |
| 21:42.10 | diafic | Gotta run, battery |
| 21:42.21 | moshisushi | tacit: oh |
| 21:42.30 | chops | my007ms: Well, it's not the same code... |
| 21:42.39 | abrotman | moshisushi: uname -a |
| 21:42.48 | my007ms | what version u have ? |
| 21:43.23 | chops | my007ms: If lftp doesn't report the statistics you want... then, well, lftp doesn't have the statistics you want. There might be a way to make it output them, or you might be able to do some math and get the same information. |
| 21:43.30 | moshisushi | 2.6.18-5-686 |
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| 21:43.50 | chops | moshisushi: You might check your memory (memtest86) |
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| 21:44.10 | moshisushi | chops: nopes, i'll try it |
| 21:44.19 | vanksi | is it possible to change ssh 'connect from' port? i'm working in an environment where i only got http ports open and i need to ssh/scp out |
| 21:44.26 | vanksi | so the ssh connection should go out let's say the port 80 to destination port 22 |
| 21:44.32 | tacit | chops: RAM? Hmm. It sais interrupt and if it's the same error all over? |
| 21:45.39 | wols_ | vanksi: that is BS |
| 21:45.55 | wols_ | a webbrowser never uses port 80 as a outgoing port |
| 21:45.56 | abrotman | moshisushi: for starters .. your kernel is out of date |
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| 21:46.05 | HardDisk_WP | vanksi, that not possible, switch the ssh daemon to listen on 80 |
| 21:46.20 | streuner | heh |
| 21:46.24 | wols_ | and the firewall doesn't restrcint outgoing ports. it only allows connections to port 443 and 80 to go through |
| 21:46.29 | wols_ | so run your webserver on port 80 |
| 21:46.34 | chops | tacit: He didn't say it was the same error, he said it was still a problem when he reinstalled |
| 21:46.38 | wols_ | oops. run your ssh server on port 80 |
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| 21:47.50 | eldowan | does linux-image-2.6.24-1-amd64 work with the 32bit world? |
| 21:47.59 | chops | eldowan: Yes |
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| 21:48.05 | eldowan | wonderful. Thanks. |
| 21:48.14 | vanksi | wols_, yeah, it's the servers where i need to connect FROM |
| 21:48.22 | vanksi | so that's why they are so tightly firewalled |
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| 21:48.39 | moshisushi | sorry, stupid question, but how do i run memtest86? |
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| 21:49.02 | streuner | moshisushi: read the docs |
| 21:49.04 | DawnLight | moshisushi: run update-grub after you install it and reboot |
| 21:49.10 | chops | moshisushi: Install it, it should become a bootloader entry. Reboot into it. |
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| 21:51.10 | eldowan | I've noticed some newer machines/laptops have memtest86 on ROM. It was a nice supprise |
| 21:51.18 | jim | I got cups working no problem... but now I need to reconfigure it, the web interface was nice. can I get that again? |
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| 21:51.29 | jim | s/get/connect to/ |
| 21:51.41 | eldowan | jim http://localhost:631 |
| 21:51.46 | TodoEnEsteMundoE | x)Si le Ubiese Dado Otra Chanse a Nuestro Amorrrrrrrrrrrrrrr(x |
| 21:51.47 | jim | thank you |
| 21:51.53 | TodoEnEsteMundoE | x)hello(x |
| 21:51.54 | TodoEnEsteMundoE | x):D(x |
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| 21:52.22 | chops | !es |
| 21:52.23 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 21:52.32 | jim | TodoEnEsteMundoE: hi. you're sending extra stuff, I can't read what you're saying very well |
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| 21:52.46 | TodoEnEsteMundoE | x)jajaj(x |
| 21:52.49 | TodoEnEsteMundoE | x)Espaol(x |
| 21:52.53 | TodoEnEsteMundoE | x)Ingles Ceroo(x |
| 21:52.53 | TodoEnEsteMundoE | x):D(x |
| 21:52.56 | abrotman | !es |
| 21:52.57 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:53.01 | abrotman | TodoEnEsteMundoE: english only here |
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| 21:53.15 | TodoEnEsteMundoE | x)Aguante Argentina(x |
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| 21:53.21 | jim | ke7baf: oregon? washington? |
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| 21:54.08 | streuner | !beer abrotman |
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| 21:55.08 | jim | abrotman: you probably know I got pretty burnt and aggressive in the job you now hold... |
| 21:55.21 | streuner | heh |
| 21:55.26 | streuner | jim: you were op here? |
| 21:55.28 | fedya | netselect says that traceroute is being blocked, i can't remember the alternative to netselect |
| 21:55.35 | jim | absolutely |
| 21:55.37 | abrotman | jim: are you trying to egg me on? :) |
| 21:55.53 | drwahl | anyone have a quick description for the differences between bash and zsh? |
| 21:55.54 | vanksi | ok, so i need to transfer files from a host that only has ports 80/443 open in both directions, is it possible, i tried setting ssh up on port 80 on the remote host where i need to copy the files to but that didn't help, just got an error that the connection was terminated |
| 21:56.23 | jim | nope, I just want to say that it took me about maybe 1-2 years to get to that state, and probably because I took no breaks |
| 21:56.38 | abrotman | breaks from what? |
| 21:56.44 | jim | opping here |
| 21:57.00 | abrotman | yeah .. i like my sleep :) |
| 21:57.05 | jim | or even just being here |
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| 21:57.16 | abrotman | jim: i think you're here more than me now ... |
| 21:57.48 | chops | vanksi: Does connecting to that port from a machine outside your current firewalled environment work at all? |
| 21:57.49 | jim | well that could be. but I'd like to propose that you check in with yourself every 2-6 months |
| 21:57.55 | abrotman | fedya: to do what ? |
| 21:58.04 | abrotman | jim: but i've been doing this for awhile .. |
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| 21:58.12 | jim | and take vacations where you're not here. at all |
| 21:58.16 | chops | vanksi: There are web sites that can run an ssh client for you -- you can try to connect with one of those on the non-standard port, and see if you get the username prompt or "connection refused" |
| 21:58.17 | jim | yes I get that |
| 21:58.34 | chops | vanksi: Though I wouldn't recommend actually typing your password into those sites unless you're desperate |
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| 21:59.32 | \amethyst | (or sending them your private key) |
| 21:59.36 | jim | abrotman: totally separate from that, you handle yourself very well |
| 21:59.46 | chops | vanksi: How did you connect to the remote site to configure the ssh server without having working outbound ssh? |
| 21:59.47 | abrotman | jim: vacations are for managers! :) |
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| 21:59.58 | jim | then become one for the vacations! |
| 22:00.02 | balibalo | what its the expression to search the last modified file on www ? |
| 22:00.11 | streuner | abrotman: what are vacations? :-P |
| 22:00.25 | Tramp | vanksi: easiest way is, to talk to the security responsible of these hosts / the network, explain your problem and discuss a solution |
| 22:00.32 | abrotman | streuner: don't ask me |
| 22:00.34 | jim | vacations are what vacuum cleaners make |
| 22:00.50 | abrotman | balibalo: you want to sort by modified? |
| 22:00.56 | SexyKen | Okay now I'm trying to boot this fuckin' server with a live cd to see what happens. |
| 22:01.08 | abrotman | server? nvidia? X ? |
| 22:01.10 | SexyKen | grml |
| 22:01.21 | jim | sgml? |
| 22:01.21 | streuner | good luck |
| 22:01.32 | streuner | jim: /msg dpkg grml |
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| 22:01.53 | vanksi | chops, with bouncing the connection through a host that has ssh access |
| 22:01.59 | abrotman | jim: odd that you hit the "ban on sight" state :) |
| 22:02.16 | vanksi | but i can't bounce the file transfers through the same host the same way |
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| 22:02.43 | abrotman | vanksi: can't you just run apache on each machine and pull ? instead of push ? |
| 22:02.50 | jim | well I did hit that, and I got fairly pissed at a few dds who in my view failed to be more cooperative |
| 22:02.54 | balibalo | abrotman: yes, I want to sort by last time of modification on www |
| 22:03.16 | drwahl | balibalo: ls -ralt |
| 22:03.19 | drwahl | err |
| 22:03.20 | drwahl | nm |
| 22:03.27 | abrotman | balibalo: do you konw which directory? or you want to scan them all ? |
| 22:03.29 | drwahl | you want http code for it, dont you? :) |
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| 22:04.04 | SexyKen | streuner: What window manager should I start? |
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| 22:04.31 | streuner | SexyKen: any you are familiar with |
| 22:04.33 | balibalo | I want to scan them all, no it s not for http code, but a crazy mess with an editor |
| 22:04.34 | SexyKen | awesome, dwm, evilwm, flxubox, fvwm, fvwm2, fvwm-crystal, openbox, pekwm, ratpoison, twm, w9wm, windowlab, wmii, wm-ng |
| 22:04.50 | SexyKen | Haven't used any of these, you just told me to downlaod and boot the cd to copy something. |
| 22:04.52 | abrotman | balibalo: ls -lrt will show one directory |
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| 22:05.02 | vanksi | abrotman, nope, too insecure |
| 22:05.09 | streuner | SexyKen: just use fluxbox or openbox then |
| 22:05.12 | abrotman | vanksi: 443 .. https ? |
| 22:05.19 | balibalo | thank s I go trying |
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| 22:05.32 | vanksi | actually i just noticed that 443 isn't open on all the hosts |
| 22:05.39 | vanksi | 80 is open on all of them |
| 22:05.49 | SexyKen | Well Well Well - it's loading. |
| 22:05.54 | vanksi | but that doesn't seem to work with ssh |
| 22:06.03 | SexyKen | It worked...wtf |
| 22:06.13 | streuner | sure, why not? :-) |
| 22:06.16 | abrotman | vanksi: are they also running apache? |
| 22:06.20 | SexyKen | Well why wont debian work then? |
| 22:06.26 | vanksi | abrotman, most of them not |
| 22:06.35 | vanksi | some of them are |
| 22:06.41 | jim | SexyKen: probably some kernel/driver issue |
| 22:06.43 | abrotman | vanksi: if they're running apache .. they can't run sshd on the same port |
| 22:06.44 | streuner | SexyKen: rhetoric question, grml is based on Debian (sid) :-) |
| 22:07.03 | vanksi | abrotman, i'm trying to ssh OUT from the firewalled environment |
| 22:07.08 | abrotman | oh |
| 22:07.11 | vanksi | i have full control of the destination |
| 22:07.11 | SexyKen | Okay - excuse my french, but what the fuck do I do now |
| 22:07.19 | abrotman | vanksi: and it only allows 80 and 443 out ? |
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| 22:07.24 | abrotman | that seems .. useless |
| 22:07.32 | vanksi | abrotman, only 80 out mostly |
| 22:07.33 | streuner | SexyKen: just look for the config-file |
| 22:07.51 | SexyKen | What's it called? |
| 22:08.07 | jim | so in the initrd of a kernel there would be a script that loads needed modules, right? |
| 22:08.07 | streuner | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 22:08.08 | beardy | What's the difference between linux-image-2.6-xen-vserver-amd64 and linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64, I take it the linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64 is for the xen host. What I want is the kernel to run in my xen guest. |
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| 22:08.36 | Tramp | abrotman: he's not only firewalled, he's proxied. And what he's trying to do probably violates the policy of the place he is in |
| 22:08.40 | bush|werk | beardy: what do the package descriptions say? |
| 22:08.57 | streuner | SexyKen: just paste the whole xorg.conf into paste.debian.net |
| 22:09.05 | abrotman | Tramp: yay Uni policies! |
| 22:09.10 | jim | beardy: you can guess that... one enables xen support, one enables vserver support, one enables both (you can get each of their config files and diff em) |
| 22:09.28 | beardy | bush|werk: Exactly the same. |
| 22:09.30 | vanksi | Tramp, you talking about me? |
| 22:09.37 | Tramp | vanksi: yes |
| 22:10.11 | vanksi | i'm not in any way proxied, and i have 'control' of the firewall on the remote site but it takes about 2 days to get them to open the darn port and i need it working like right now |
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| 22:10.31 | vanksi | i got root (legally) on all of the boxes i'm working on |
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| 22:10.44 | abrotman | vanksi: so what ports do the other systems listen on? |
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| 22:10.50 | moshisushi | hmm my memtest86 run froze at 39% |
| 22:10.53 | Tramp | vanksi: you don't control the local site and you are proxied because running sshd on port 80 did not work, as you stated previously |
| 22:11.08 | moshisushi | isn't that _extremely_ bad? :) |
| 22:11.09 | streuner | moshisushi: bad |
| 22:11.37 | streuner | doesnt run memtest a whole day? |
| 22:11.39 | moshisushi | but well, e100 is definitely my ethernet adapter |
| 22:11.52 | streuner | or over night? |
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| 22:12.07 | vanksi | Tramp, well it did work but when the connection was initiated it gave the following error and reseted the connection: fatal: Read from socket failed |
| 22:12.11 | beardy | jim: I see.. I guess I should have checked what vserver actually is first, thought it was something to do with xen aswell. My second thought a few seconds ago was that user mode linux was the same as vserver, but apparently not. |
| 22:13.00 | Lectus | how to install my native language in debian? |
| 22:13.02 | Tramp | vanksi: this probably means, you could connect with the proxy, but since you did not speak http the connection was terminated |
| 22:13.25 | abrotman | !pt |
| 22:13.26 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 22:13.32 | beardy | !locale |
| 22:13.32 | dpkg | locale is probably set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers) |
| 22:13.41 | vanksi | abrotman, the box where i need to copy to listens on what ever port i want, some of the boxes don't listen on any port and only 80 is allowed out |
| 22:13.41 | beardy | Lectus: ^^^ |
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| 22:14.15 | Tramp | vanksi: you could try on 443 or use software to tunnel through http - like httptunnel. If your network-admin finds out about it, you may be in trouble |
| 22:14.16 | vanksi | Tramp, that would be really strange since i have not set any proxies anywhere and i know that i'm not behind any "forced" proxies |
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| 22:15.14 | SexyKen | Okay so now I restart and I copy the xorg.conf file over on mine? |
| 22:15.30 | Tramp | vanksi: any halfway modern firewall is using stateful inspection and/or proxies any traffic |
| 22:15.34 | streuner | just show us the config-file first |
| 22:15.54 | vanksi | maybe i'll just order port to be opened and hope nothing bad happens in the meanwhile |
| 22:16.05 | SexyKen | http://paste.debian.net/50129 |
| 22:16.07 | vanksi | but thanks anyhow |
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| 22:17.48 | streuner | fine, very fine, grml using nv :-) |
| 22:17.54 | streuner | not VESA |
| 22:18.00 | streuner | SexyKen: yeah |
| 22:18.35 | chops | vanksi: How did you connect to the host that you bounced the connection off of? |
| 22:18.55 | SexyKen | Okay file copied. |
| 22:19.10 | SexyKen | I got an error |
| 22:19.12 | fedya | anyone ever use memtest32? ive been testing registered ram and it all seems to come up bad... |
| 22:19.27 | SexyKen | NV: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:13:0) found |
| 22:19.31 | SexyKen | No devices detected |
| 22:19.39 | vanksi | chops, vpn |
| 22:19.48 | chops | fedya: Why not memtest86? |
| 22:19.51 | Lectus | beardy: Thanks. My language is already set in /etc/default/locale, but KDE is still in english. |
| 22:19.56 | fedya | that's what i meant :) |
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| 22:20.01 | Lectus | Do I need to download any package? |
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| 22:20.41 | SexyKen | See that streuner? |
| 22:21.06 | beardy | Lectus: No, probably not. Just set it in the Control Center or what they call it. |
| 22:21.17 | balibalo | please humans, if I want to find the modified file this 5 last minutes in all the folder www, with find, how can I do it ? |
| 22:21.32 | streuner | SexyKen: yes, i still dont unterstand, its not defined in grml config file (BusID) |
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| 22:21.49 | beardy | balibalo: Have you read the find manual or info page? |
| 22:21.52 | Lectus | beardy: no option for my language there. just us english :( |
| 22:22.01 | SexyKen | Correct. |
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| 22:22.08 | balibalo | yes |
| 22:22.17 | balibalo | and I am lost |
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| 22:22.29 | balibalo | totally |
| 22:22.29 | beardy | Lectus: Then search for the package for your language plus kde. What is your language? |
| 22:22.59 | abrotman | balibalo: use find and ls |
| 22:23.01 | SexyKen | I did a direct copy |
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| 22:23.18 | Tramp | balibalo: use the "cnewer" option of find and "touch" a file with the reference time (using the --date-option for touch) |
| 22:23.25 | abrotman | balibalo: or just use find if you know it was in the last five minutes |
| 22:23.26 | Laser | http://bgflash.com/details.php?image_id=2058 |
| 22:24.01 | abrotman | Laser: please don't spam us |
| 22:24.20 | Laser | abchirk: it's a joke. im not spamming. |
| 22:24.31 | SexyKen | Would you like me to paste the log file? |
| 22:24.39 | abrotman | Laser: it's spam |
| 22:24.41 | beardy | Lectus: kde-i18n-ptbr is the package you want |
| 22:24.42 | Lectus | beardy: brazillian portuguese (pt_br) |
| 22:24.47 | Lectus | yes |
| 22:24.49 | streuner | SexyKen: sure |
| 22:24.59 | Laser | abchirk: it's a joke, man |
| 22:24.59 | Lectus | thanks... I'll take a look |
| 22:25.06 | abrotman | balibalo: find /var/www/ -mmin -10 .. or something like that |
| 22:25.28 | balibalo | thank s I try it |
| 22:25.41 | Lectus | beardy: btw... I download debian with KDE... is there any way of using it with gnome? I'm currently running it in virtual box, but I want to install it soon |
| 22:25.43 | Tramp | oh, mmin. Didn't know that ... |
| 22:25.49 | SexyKen | http://paste.debian.net/50130 |
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| 22:25.56 | beardy | Lectus: Of course, just install it. |
| 22:26.05 | Lectus | beardy: should I go for netinst instead? |
| 22:26.15 | Lectus | and then apt-get install gnome? |
| 22:26.17 | mikey- | hi |
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| 22:26.20 | mikey- | tokyo:/home/mikey/build# mount original.iso -o loop,rw /mnt |
| 22:26.20 | mikey- | tokyo:/home/mikey/build# rm /mnt/README.TXT |
| 22:26.20 | mikey- | rm: cannot remove `/mnt/README.TXT': Read-only file system |
| 22:26.32 | mikey- | anybody has any idea why this is hapenning? |
| 22:26.44 | beardy | Lectus: If you planned on downloading dvd images anyway, that is, have the bandwidth, yes, go with netinst. |
| 22:26.51 | abrotman | mikey-: it's an ISO ? |
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| 22:26.58 | mikey- | abrotman: yep |
| 22:27.10 | beardy | Lectus: Use aptitude instead of apt-get. |
| 22:27.25 | beardy | Lectus: But yes, then you just install it. /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 22:28.12 | SexyKen | So what do you think about that there, streuner? |
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| 22:28.54 | chemist | i am trying to build a cross-compiler following http://wiki.debian.org/BuildingCrossCompilers |
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| 22:28.58 | streuner | SexyKen: just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and use the value fo grml WITHOUT BusID |
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| 22:29.20 | SexyKen | Not sure what you mean? I'm running the exact copy of the grml file |
| 22:29.26 | streuner | SexyKen: s/value fo/values of/ |
| 22:29.27 | chemist | but after entering sudo dpkg -i binutils-$ARCH-linux-gnu_VERSION_HOSTARCH.deb |
| 22:29.40 | DawnLight | mikey-: it is a read only filesystem |
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| 22:30.02 | streuner | SexyKen: well, it doesnt like BusID, so just make sure it doesnt use it :-) |
| 22:30.16 | streuner | !drxx SexyKen |
| 22:30.16 | dpkg | SexyKen: To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier), dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, and ask me about xmd5sum if you've changed XF86Config-4 yourself. |
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| 22:30.59 | SexyKen | Okay I just did that - and I got the same exact result |
| 22:30.59 | chemist | i get this error http://pastebin.ca/922642 |
| 22:31.04 | SexyKen | busid is not defined |
| 22:31.05 | SexyKen | period |
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| 22:31.50 | mikey- | DawnLight: yep, i can see that :) I'm wondering if there's a way to mess around inside iso, without extracting files and making another iso with mkisofs |
| 22:32.01 | SexyKen | it is simply saying No devices detected |
| 22:32.03 | SexyKen | which is such shit |
| 22:32.06 | SexyKen | I have 2 fucking devices |
| 22:32.07 | DawnLight | mikey-: not that i know of |
| 22:32.11 | mikey- | i think it was the default behaviour earlier |
| 22:32.17 | mikey- | but i may be wrong |
| 22:32.26 | streuner | SexyKen: just disable the onboard chip then |
| 22:32.52 | streuner | SexyKen: in BIOS |
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| 22:34.00 | Supaplex | what things in /etc/ are $ARCH specific? My amd64 box was mistakenly fed a partial rsync of /etc from another etch machine running i386. |
| 22:34.11 | SexyKen | What do you mean show you the result of what? |
| 22:34.22 | chops | Supaplex: I wouldn't expect it to be all that much... but it would still be good to restore from backup whatever's possible. |
| 22:34.37 | chops | Supaplex: (Nice use of the passive voice, BTW :-) |
| 22:34.56 | streuner | SexyKen: lspci should show all devices (as long as they are PCI) |
| 22:35.30 | Supaplex | backups would be so nice. but I got lazy on my desktop. :P I only have /home backed up heh. |
| 22:35.54 | SexyKen | It does show the devices. |
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| 22:36.13 | Supaplex | oh gorsh. fstab is hosed. crap. yay /proc/mounts. <3 |
| 22:36.18 | Nihilist_Nerd | I have deleted a user then added it again with useradd and yried to make sure its password was correct. I did this from a failsafe terminal. These are the commands I used: su; useradd -m -p <password> ed-debian; usermod -p <password> ed-debian Now unfortinately, I cannot log in from GDM, but I can in single user mod in bash. I said ls at my home directory, and there were few configuration files - mainly just the bash ones, . and .. |
| 22:36.24 | streuner | SexyKen: lspci -v | grep -i vga show ONE device, right? but not the second? |
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| 22:36.52 | SexyKen | Anyway, I disabled the onboard gpu - this time when I run the dpkg-reconfigure, it actually selects the 'nv' driver automatically and names my card nvidia, I go through the config and then try to run "X" and it still says "No devices found" |
| 22:37.28 | Onyx | I've just formatted a new hard drive, and I want users to be able to read and write to the drive without issue. The drive has been formatted with the ext3 filesystem, but I cannot seem to get the right option for users to have full access to the drive. Here's my fstab line: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/media ext3 user,auto,rw,sync 0 2 |
| 22:37.53 | streuner | SexyKen: did you reboot? |
| 22:37.56 | drwahl | SexyKen: what bus does 'lspci | grep vga' show the card on? |
| 22:38.06 | SexyKen | Reboot after reconfig? no.... |
| 22:38.09 | abrotman | grep -i vga |
| 22:38.15 | SexyKen | 02:0-0.0 |
| 22:38.18 | SexyKen | 02:00.0 |
| 22:38.25 | drwahl | and what does xorg have it on? |
| 22:38.34 | SexyKen | 02:00.0 |
| 22:38.41 | drwahl | should be in /var/log/Xorg.log or something |
| 22:38.43 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.50 | drwahl | that might be the issue |
| 22:39.00 | SexyKen | But it's commented out |
| 22:39.11 | drwahl | i know the last time i was messing with this, xorg wanted the 00:20.0 when the buss was 02:00.0 |
| 22:39.17 | drwahl | err.. you know what i mean :) |
| 22:39.20 | streuner | drwahl: http://paste.debian.net/50130 |
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| 22:39.29 | SexyKen | So I should do 00:20.0 |
| 22:39.30 | SexyKen | It wont accept |
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| 22:39.46 | drwahl | sorry, it hsould be 00:02.0 |
| 22:39.58 | drwahl | streuner: thanks for the linky |
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| 22:41.18 | Tramp | Onyx: mount the drive and chmod 777 the top-level directory. E voila, everybody can write to it |
| 22:41.45 | SexyKen | It still says no device detected |
| 22:41.48 | drwahl | SexyKen: did you get that? it was supposed to be 00:02.0, _NOT_ 00:*20*.0 |
| 22:41.49 | drwahl | ah |
| 22:41.50 | drwahl | ok |
| 22:41.51 | SexyKen | 1:0:0 |
| 22:41.52 | SexyKen | etc |
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| 22:42.03 | SexyKen | I tried 00:02.0 |
| 22:42.08 | drwahl | ok |
| 22:42.20 | eifzon | Anyone can help me with my vsftpd problem? |
| 22:42.26 | eifzon | Ok, I have uncommented the three options, chroot_local_user=YES, chroot_list_enable=YES and chroot_list_file=/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list, in the vsftp.chroot_list I added a user that has access to all the directories. If I use the other user that shall be "restricted" to be in any other folder then /var/ftp it dont work, I still can make directories/remove etc with the other user. |
| 22:42.36 | streuner | SexyKen: what happens if you leave that field blank? |
| 22:42.59 | akuwamari | abrotman: how are you |
| 22:43.02 | SexyKen | Same error |
| 22:43.06 | akuwamari | in the past i was reiser |
| 22:43.44 | DawnLight | i was a frog |
| 22:43.58 | drwahl | lol, good one DawnLight :) |
| 22:43.59 | abrotman | i was someone that cared |
| 22:44.13 | SexyKen | No matter what it is giving me that bullshit No devices detected |
| 22:44.15 | DawnLight | nah, you were mean |
| 22:44.26 | DawnLight | SexyKen: what device? |
| 22:44.38 | drwahl | SexyKen: you still running grml? |
| 22:44.43 | streuner | SexyKen: well, you are pretty fast. you dont need much time for disable that other device in BIOS and reboot |
| 22:44.49 | SexyKen | No grml ran fine |
| 22:44.53 | SexyKen | I am back into debian now |
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| 22:44.59 | drwahl | k |
| 22:45.07 | SexyKen | I already disabled the onboard gpu |
| 22:45.17 | eifzon | Anyone can answer my question? |
| 22:45.22 | akuwamari | ok, what i need to install a mail server so when i configure my local network, i can send mails only in my LAN, without internet connection |
| 22:45.34 | drwahl | eifzon: sorry, i'm not very familiar with vsftpd |
| 22:45.46 | eifzon | ok |
| 22:45.50 | drwahl | eifzon: check the permisions on the folder |
| 22:46.01 | eifzon | drwahl: what folder? |
| 22:46.22 | DawnLight | akuwamari: exim4 |
| 22:46.27 | drwahl | /var/ftp who does it belong to? what are the rwx permision? |
| 22:46.37 | DawnLight | akuwamari: bbe prepared to do some reading |
| 22:46.54 | eifzon | drwahl: that doesen't matter? I can write and all in that folder, I just the ftp user to dont be outside that foulder |
| 22:46.58 | eifzon | if you understand |
| 22:47.15 | akuwamari | and what about Qmail ? |
| 22:47.20 | SexyKen | Uhm |
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| 22:47.41 | DawnLight | akuwamari: exim4 is the default in debian |
| 22:47.45 | streuner | !qmail |
| 22:47.45 | dpkg | qmail is, like, a Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) written by D.J. Bernstein. Because it is illegal to distribute binaries built from modified sources, Debian considers it non-free. For documentation about qmail, see http://www.qmail.org/ and http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html. There were no qmail releases since 1998, and a truckload of features and security measures needed for a MTA in use on today's Internet must be patched in by external patches, invalida |
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| 22:48.07 | akuwamari | hummmm, ok |
| 22:48.13 | drwahl | eifzon: hmm... ya, this is way beyond my knowledge :) maybe some one else more knowledgable about vsftp will hear you cries for help |
| 22:48.17 | shamrock | how does one search the repositors to see which package includes a certain physical file? |
| 22:48.34 | DawnLight | shamrock: apt-cache search <file> |
| 22:48.37 | eifzon | Ok, I have uncommented the three options, chroot_local_user=YES, chroot_list_enable=YES and chroot_list_file=/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list, in the vsftp.chroot_list I added a user that has access to all the directories. If I use the other user that shall be "restricted" to be in any other folder then /var/ftp it dont work, I still can make directories/remove etc with the other user. |
| 22:48.42 | DawnLight | shamrock: and files aren't physical |
| 22:48.42 | drwahl | SexyKen: is there a paste of your xorg.conf file somewhere? |
| 22:48.48 | SexyKen | Uhm |
| 22:48.53 | SexyKen | I just got it to work.... |
| 22:49.02 | shamrock | DawnLight: why the comment on files? |
| 22:49.05 | SexyKen | Tried vesa now, with the onboard turned off.... |
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| 22:49.10 | SexyKen | ...and it worked |
| 22:49.16 | SexyKen | But vesa doesn't work when onboard is turned on |
| 22:49.19 | SexyKen | And nv doesn't work at all |
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| 22:49.25 | SexyKen | So what's that mean? |
| 22:49.25 | DawnLight | shamrock: because i'm in such a mood |
| 22:49.49 | drwahl | SexyKen: an irq problem? |
| 22:49.56 | drwahl | maybe |
| 22:50.06 | SexyKen | An irq problem is going to make the nv driver not work? |
| 22:50.10 | SexyKen | but the vesa driver will? |
| 22:50.18 | SexyKen | irq problems should be independent of drivers |
| 22:50.28 | DawnLight | SexyKen: tell the bios you're using a non-plug and play os |
| 22:50.30 | drwahl | ... *blinks* maybe? :) |
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| 22:52.02 | Supaplex | !/etc/ld.so.cache |
| 22:52.31 | eifzon | drwahl: you think it can have anything to do with the chmod something? |
| 22:52.42 | mick_home | hey, i remember laurence lessig had a video on copyright (and it showed the video from disney -- steam boat willie and the history etc etc) -- anyone have a link? |
| 22:52.51 | mick_home | i was on lessig.org and i didn't find it |
| 22:53.14 | mick_home | i remember watching it before -- wish i could remember the name |
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| 22:53.35 | mick_home | i figure since there are a lot of free culture people in #debian, someone might know what i'm talking about |
| 22:54.02 | azeem | mick_home: isn't he like about always talking about copyright? |
| 22:54.14 | mick_home | there was a video that he did |
| 22:54.16 | drwahl | eifzon: it might. that is what i was asking about (the rwx). eifzon to ensure that it is not an issue of permisions, do: "chmod -r 777 /var/ftp" HOWEVER, be careful, because this can cause a security risk and i would really only suggest it for testing |
| 22:54.23 | rdz | hi all. my laptop has a builtin IR-DA. how can i find out if it is recognized by debian and on which device i can access it? |
| 22:54.23 | azeem | that'd be like "hey, i remember RMS wrote a mail about Free Software..." |
| 22:54.26 | eifzon | drwahl: I will check, sec |
| 22:54.29 | mick_home | it was half interview half instructional video |
| 22:54.37 | SexyKen | Hey |
| 22:54.42 | SexyKen | Does the nv driver not support GeForce 8500 GT? |
| 22:54.43 | drwahl | hi |
| 22:54.46 | drwahl | ah |
| 22:54.51 | drwahl | maybe... |
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| 22:54.53 | abrotman | SexyKen: doubtful .. why is your server running X ? |
| 22:55.00 | SexyKen | It's not a server |
| 22:55.03 | SexyKen | It's a desktop machine |
| 22:55.20 | eifzon | drwahl: how to check? ;P? |
| 22:55.24 | Supaplex | how can I regenerate /etc/ld.so.cache from scratch? |
| 22:55.42 | abrotman | mick_home: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=lessig+steamboat&btnG=Google+Search |
| 22:55.54 | drwahl | eifzon: "ls -al" will output something that looks like -rw-r--r-- 1 drwahl drwahl 36973 2008-02-26 12:33 httpd.conf |
| 22:56.02 | SexyKen | I dont see the my model in here: http://www.xfree86.org/current/nv.4.html |
| 22:56.04 | SexyKen | Anyone else? |
| 22:56.08 | drwahl | and the "-rw-r--r--" part is the part you need |
| 22:56.24 | drwahl | SexyKen: checking... |
| 22:56.32 | drwahl | SexyKen: have you concidered the non-free driver? |
| 22:56.39 | eifzon | drwahl: drwxr-xr-x 3 |
| 22:56.42 | SexyKen | Nope - not sure how to install it |
| 22:56.56 | mick_home | abrotman: it was a video |
| 22:57.01 | mick_home | http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=lessig+steamboat&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv <--- nada |
| 22:57.05 | streuner | Supaplex: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 75555 28. Feb 11:19 /etc/ld.so.cache |
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| 22:57.39 | drwahl | eifzon: what is just after the 3? it should be something like "eifzon users" or "root root" |
| 22:57.46 | eifzon | eifzon eifzon |
| 22:57.48 | eifzon | it says after |
| 22:58.04 | drwahl | eifzon: ok, that means that only you can write to that directory |
| 22:58.16 | drwahl | eifzon: try running chmod -r 777 on /var/ftp |
| 22:58.24 | eifzon | as root? |
| 22:58.27 | drwahl | eifzon: and see if that allows other users to write to that dir |
| 22:58.30 | Supaplex | streuner: my amd64 box has the copy from the i386 box (accidental partial rsync of /etc) |
| 22:58.33 | drwahl | eifzon: it shouldnt matter |
| 22:59.00 | streuner | Supaplex: seems to me, that it created after i reboot |
| 22:59.12 | eifzon | that cmd doesent work drwahl |
| 22:59.22 | SexyKen | Wow |
| 22:59.23 | SexyKen | Imagine that |
| 22:59.31 | SexyKen | The nvidia non-free version worked without a hitch. |
| 22:59.39 | drwahl | eifzon: try running chmod -R 777 /var/ftp |
| 22:59.57 | drwahl | SexyKen: when was that card released? |
| 23:00.04 | eifzon | now it got; drwxrwxrwx 3 eifzon eifzon |
| 23:00.15 | drwahl | SexyKen: http://www.xfree86.org/current/nv.4.html was last updated last august |
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| 23:00.25 | SexyKen | 1.5 years ago maybe |
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| 23:00.36 | drwahl | eifzon: can you use ftp now to write to that folder? |
| 23:00.47 | drwahl | SexyKen: hmm... i would imagine it would be on there then... |
| 23:00.48 | eifzon | i have could before |
| 23:00.56 | eifzon | I just dont want it to be able to sneek around in other folders |
| 23:01.01 | SexyKen | Okay now I'm going to do a completely fresh install and just install the non-free driver |
| 23:01.04 | eifzon | so its like "locked" to the home folder |
| 23:01.07 | drwahl | eifzon: arg... i'm an idiot.... |
| 23:01.11 | drwahl | eifzon: lol |
| 23:01.15 | eifzon | drwahl: have I done anything wrong+:P |
| 23:01.23 | eifzon | or you know how to fix it? |
| 23:01.28 | drwahl | eifzon: you probably need to do chroot, but i'm not very good with chroot |
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| 23:01.40 | drwahl | eifzon: maybe abrotman could assist? he is the brains of the channel |
| 23:01.50 | eifzon | abrotman: could you? :o |
| 23:02.22 | abrotman | vsftpd + chroot ? |
| 23:02.29 | drwahl | eifzon: you have done nothing wrong... i was just troublshooting the wrong symptom (because i did not read :) |
| 23:02.40 | drwahl | abrotman: ya. he doesnt want users to be able to ftp outside of /var/ftp |
| 23:02.48 | drwahl | abrotman: would he use chroot to set that? |
| 23:02.55 | eifzon | and /var/ftp is my home folder |
| 23:03.01 | abrotman | i'm sure vsftpd has some chroot setting .. |
| 23:03.04 | abrotman | read the vsftpd docs |
| 23:03.10 | eifzon | abrotman: have done whole night |
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| 23:03.19 | abrotman | eifzon: did it wrong ? |
| 23:03.24 | eifzon | abrotman: no |
| 23:03.31 | abrotman | then it works .. problem solved |
| 23:03.56 | eifzon | huh? |
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| 23:04.00 | eifzon | it doesen't work.. |
| 23:04.09 | abrotman | what doesn't work about it ? |
| 23:04.22 | drwahl | users can still write outside of /var/ftp |
| 23:04.25 | eifzon | eifzon:x:1001:1001:,,,:/var/ftp:/bin/bash |
| 23:04.32 | eifzon | abrotman: it does say like that in my /etc/passwd file |
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| 23:05.20 | drwahl | eifzon: what is your native language? |
| 23:05.25 | eifzon | swedish |
| 23:05.31 | eifzon | :P |
| 23:05.32 | abrotman | eifzon: did you actually setup vsftpd correctly ? |
| 23:05.38 | eifzon | abrotman: yes. |
| 23:05.48 | drwahl | did you try the debine-se channel? (or whatever it is...) |
| 23:05.54 | drwahl | blarg! |
| 23:05.57 | drwahl | typos! |
| 23:05.59 | eifzon | debian.se yes |
| 23:05.59 | eifzon | :P |
| 23:06.29 | eifzon | I googled for chroot and it said I should change in the /etc/passwd file |
| 23:06.38 | abrotman | which options did you enable ? |
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| 23:07.01 | eifzon | let me show you |
| 23:07.24 | drwahl | eifzon: there should be settings in /etc/vsftp/vsftpd.conf that define things like "where can users read/write" |
| 23:07.53 | eifzon | chroot_local_user=YES, chroot_list_enable=YES, chroot_list_file=/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list abrotman |
| 23:07.57 | frog | hi, sorry for beeing stupid, but.. is it true, that when i have an extra sata disc in my box, it needs more ... ram? |
| 23:08.01 | abrotman | passwd_chroot_enable=YES |
| 23:08.15 | eifzon | there is no option in the vsftpd that says like that abrotman |
| 23:08.22 | abrotman | add it ? |
| 23:08.44 | eifzon | anywhere in the config? |
| 23:09.07 | abrotman | man vsftpd.conf |
| 23:09.31 | drwahl | eifzon: i had vsftp working once. here is the config i used for it. it will REQUIRE editting to make it work for you, mainly the user stuff, but it should just require the user to change and then work |
| 23:09.35 | drwahl | http://pastebin.com/m390f624a |
| 23:09.47 | eifzon | drwahl: lets try :) |
| 23:10.02 | eifzon | first I will uncomment annoymous_enable :P |
| 23:10.26 | streuner | Supaplex: man ldconfig |
| 23:10.45 | drwahl | eifzon: line 61 in that file is the one that i believe requires your attention |
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| 23:11.05 | eifzon | drwahl: ok |
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| 23:11.51 | streuner | Supaplex: are you using nvidia-glx? |
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| 23:12.23 | agiofws_ | tell me how to check if a package is installed ? |
| 23:12.31 | agiofws_ | give agiofws ! |
| 23:12.54 | SexyKen | Is it going to be hell for me to get my secondary monitor working with linux? |
| 23:13.06 | abrotman | !version |
| 23:13.06 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version |
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| 23:13.34 | Superbartt | SexyKen for you: probally yes! :p |
| 23:13.40 | agiofws_ | SexyKen, no |
| 23:13.44 | agiofws_ | what card ? |
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| 23:13.47 | drwahl | SexyKen: nah, its not bad |
| 23:13.57 | agiofws_ | tell me how to check if a package is installed ? |
| 23:14.37 | abrotman | !tell agiofws_ about version |
| 23:14.43 | drwahl | SexyKen: there are a lot of documents out there give you a good walkthrough |
| 23:14.49 | SexyKen | Well I have it working with my pci card, which is GeForce 8500 GT, but now I want to add my onboard to the mix which is GeForce 6600 |
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| 23:16.13 | Supaplex | streuner: I'm using the upstream plain nvidia driver |
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| 23:16.42 | streuner | Supaplex: i have nvidia-glx installed and its the only entry in /etc/init.d/* |
| 23:17.08 | streuner | Supaplex: seems that one entry "ldconfig" create that file then |
| 23:18.05 | fedya | how do you install the ssh server?? |
| 23:18.07 | streuner | aptitude install ssh |
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| 23:18.08 | SexyKen | How do I install the kernel source tree? |
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| 23:18.39 | Tramp | fedya: if you only want the server, it's openssh-server |
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| 23:19.21 | streuner | !info ssh |
| 23:19.25 | bancai | after using tcpdump to sniff packet, is there any packet analyzer except wireshark which can analyze the .cap file? |
| 23:19.26 | dpkg | ssh: (secure shell client and server (metapackage)), section net, is extra. Version: 1:4.7p1-4 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
| 23:19.41 | SexyKen | streuner you know about that, how to install kernel source? |
| 23:20.06 | Supaplex | I can ssh to the router by ip only, but nc host 22 -vv works just fine. ssh -vvvvvvv isn't of any help. |
| 23:20.11 | fedya | it just says that ssh package doesnt exist, im using etch |
| 23:20.15 | Supaplex | streuner: ssh: pyroclastic: Name or service not known |
| 23:21.11 | drwahl | SexyKen: apt-get install kernel-headers |
| 23:21.11 | streuner | for what for? |
| 23:21.15 | drwahl | SexyKen: or something like that |
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| 23:21.58 | Supaplex | fedya: is your sources.list setup? aptitude update? |
| 23:22.14 | streuner | !info ssh etch |
| 23:22.17 | drwahl | SexyKen: apt-cache search 'uname -r' headers |
| 23:22.21 | dpkg | ssh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is extra. Version: 1:4.3p2-9 (etch), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
| 23:22.37 | drwahl | SexyKen: ah... ok: apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r' |
| 23:23.04 | streuner | fedya: do you have a securtiy line in your sources.list? |
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| 23:23.19 | drwahl | SexyKen: gah... lets try one last time... apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 23:23.24 | fedya | i believe so |
| 23:23.46 | streuner | Dont believe, know! :-) ™ |
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| 23:24.38 | jim | SexyKen: you're in good hands... he's going to help you build drivers that go with the kernel you have |
| 23:24.52 | fedya | oh great |
| 23:24.56 | fedya | my sources.list is blank |
| 23:25.03 | fedya | awesome, thanks apt-spy |
| 23:25.09 | drwahl | lol |
| 23:25.13 | fedya | ill take care of this tomorrow, thanks |
| 23:25.22 | streuner | no worries |
| 23:26.14 | Supaplex | gah. apt-get is acting the same way as ssh. at least I don't have to trouble myself with a debug package of openssh-client. (seeing as how nc worked. odd) |
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| 23:26.59 | DynV | is there a program to generate regular expressions ? possibly with a nice interface ? |
| 23:27.21 | eifzon | think I got it to work no drwahl |
| 23:27.36 | eifzon | drwahl: now I cant download any files etc :) but I can still go around in the folders but I cant remove or add anything to |
| 23:28.19 | Supaplex | !tell DynV -about search |
| 23:28.37 | Supaplex | DynV: literal 'regex' pulls up a few good looking matches. |
| 23:29.28 | DynV | Supaplex: I'm already searching it but I'd like your suggestions |
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| 23:29.52 | Supaplex | I have none. I know most of regex land w/o using a reference or a tool. |
| 23:30.23 | Supaplex | s/most/enough for my needs/ |
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| 23:32.04 | cjones | what are possable problems if evey time you try to log in to root in gnome i get a error window that goes a way so fast i cant read it |
| 23:32.32 | Daveman | :p |
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| 23:33.46 | frog_ | are there any extra processing running, while having exta sata disc connected? |
| 23:33.47 | eifzon | abrotman: got it to work now, almost :P |
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| 23:34.19 | Cpudan80 | Hello all |
| 23:34.25 | Cpudan80 | I've got a problem with my xorg.conf file |
| 23:34.25 | drwahl | eifzon: that config is from about 6 years ago, so it might have some old stuff in it |
| 23:34.27 | eifzon | abrotman: how do I set permission for the user to the specific directories? |
| 23:34.33 | eifzon | drwahl: I didn't use your :P |
| 23:34.42 | Supaplex | cjones: it's a shy error. it's afraid of root. |
| 23:34.42 | Cpudan80 | Basically -- I want to setup dual displays (it's a laptop) --- the laptop panel should display at 1024x768, the external should use 1280x1024 --- they both should "mirror" the actual desktop (ie. no extensions). It's an ATI Mobility 7500 with radeon drivers |
| 23:34.50 | DawnLight | why do MTA websites look so ugly? |
| 23:34.51 | drwahl | eifzon: ah, good :) |
| 23:34.51 | Cpudan80 | So far, I have the internal display and external display showing the correct resolutions --- but on the external display, the desktop (and GDM window) are shoved in the upper left corner (taking up 1024x768 pixels) ---- I can drag windows beyond this to take up the full space available on the monitor --- but I really shouldn't have to do that |
| 23:35.06 | Cpudan80 | http://www.pastebin.ca/922583 is the xorg.conf file |
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| 23:35.41 | Tramp | cjones: grep -i root /etc/gdm/gdm.conf - assuming that you use gdm |
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| 23:36.15 | abrotman | DawnLight: because they write MTAs .. not websites |
| 23:36.33 | DawnLight | abrotman: bad excuse |
| 23:36.44 | drwahl | Cpudan80: what is your DE? kde? gnome? or??? |
| 23:36.49 | abrotman | DawnLight: okay .. so volunteer your time to make a better website |
| 23:36.50 | Cpudan80 | Gnome |
| 23:37.14 | cjones | tramp it allows me to login as failsafe and i was abel to compleat the task but thank you |
| 23:37.17 | Supaplex | DawnLight: yeah, |
| 23:37.17 | drwahl | it might be a better question for #gnome. it seems as though it is a DE problem, not so much a debian problem |
| 23:37.19 | Supaplex | !sucks |
| 23:37.19 | dpkg | Blow me! oh my bad. Were you considering contributing a patch, or filing a wishlist bug for that? http://kevininscoe.com/pub/whaaambulance.jpg |
| 23:37.47 | Cpudan80 | drwahl: Like the gnome panels and stuff --- they extend 1024 pixels out from the upper left corner --- and 768 pixels down from the left corner (on the display with the higher res), so there is a lot of "dead space" |
| 23:38.19 | DawnLight | i do feel like i need a waaaahmbulance |
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| 23:39.03 | drwahl | Cpudan80: ya, i think i understand the issue, but i think that other dekstop managers would handle it differently. the people in #gnome will understand how gnome handles that better than people round these parts |
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| 23:40.07 | ignu | what is the lightest weight web browser in debian packages (including contrib and non-free)? |
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| 23:40.30 | Supaplex | you dirty little nsswitch.conf. HAH found it. |
| 23:40.30 | azeem | ignu: lynx |
| 23:40.40 | drwahl | bah... beat me to it :) |
| 23:40.43 | ignu | thx azeem ... I'll try it :-) |
| 23:40.49 | azeem | ignu: have fun :) |
| 23:41.52 | Supaplex | streuner: FIXED! \o/ |
| 23:42.12 | Supaplex | -hosts: files dns |
| 23:42.12 | Supaplex | +hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 |
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| 23:43.45 | blueyed | Why does apt-get pull in the -386 kernel image, if the -generic image is already installed (graph: http://codeprobe.de/tmp/vb-ose-mods-depends.svg). It goes the -386 path instead of the -generic one.. |
| 23:44.16 | abrotman | blueyed: which architecture? |
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| 23:47.13 | DynV | Can someone suggest a program to generate regular expressions for dummies ? Visual Regexp is the way the go but not handholding enough |
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| 23:49.12 | JonkoPA | can someone reach http://arvind.gotdns.org |
| 23:49.17 | nevyn | DynV: kregexeditor wfm |
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| 23:49.36 | drwahl | http://arvind.gotdns.org = yes |
| 23:49.38 | DynV | nevyn: can I run it in gnome ? |
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| 23:50.27 | shamrock | can anyone running Debian tell me if they see a proper logon dialog here http://www.freechess.org/Login/jin/applet.php and whether they can click on the "login" button (Its FICS the free internet chess server). |
| 23:50.40 | JonkoPA | drwahl, great :) could you test if ssh and ftp works? |
| 23:50.51 | JonkoPA | (all are default ports) |
| 23:50.58 | DynV | nevyn: it does, thanks ! great suggestion |
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| 23:51.12 | holycow | hey guys ... when i tail syslog and i plug in a usb key i don't get any kernel activity at all ... |
| 23:51.22 | holycow | are there any settings that can turn usb on or off by chance? |
| 23:51.49 | drwahl | JonkoPA: ssh = yes ftp = yes |
| 23:52.12 | JonkoPA | cheers. bye |
| 23:52.18 | drwahl | blarg... it wont let go of my telnet... |
| 23:52.18 | abrotman | shamrock: which browser ? |
| 23:52.18 | drwahl | rofl |
| 23:53.03 | fsmunoz | shamrock: iceweasel with java seems to work |
| 23:53.27 | fsmunoz | shamrock: just logged as guest,the game appears |
| 23:53.45 | shamrock | abrotman: incrweasel: the entry fields are only 2 pix wide on mine and I can not click login. |
| 23:53.53 | shamrock | iceweasel |
| 23:54.06 | abrotman | shamrock: in epiphany (lenny) .. looks fine |
| 23:54.12 | shamrock | what java do you guys use |
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| 23:54.56 | abrotman | the one in debian ? |
| 23:54.57 | fsmunoz | j2re1.5 |
| 23:55.07 | abrotman | Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0-b105 |
| 23:55.15 | fsmunoz | shamrock: I use a different one, but should be the same as the regular one |
| 23:55.46 | shamrock | same happens in epiphany here (lenny too) |
| 23:55.48 | fsmunoz | shamrock: J2RE 1.5.0 IBM build |
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| 23:56.18 | ForkedSpoon | Agprs |
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| 23:56.44 | ForkedSpoon | MrITR: like what ? |
| 23:57.00 | MrITR | yo |
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| 23:57.27 | ForkedSpoon | say something mr.. |
| 23:57.53 | azeem | ForkedSpoon, MrITR: Do you have a Debian question? |
| 23:58.13 | MrITR | i do not at the moment, but may soon |
| 23:58.35 | azeem | then please keep it on topic in the meantime |
| 23:58.46 | ForkedSpoon | We run by gprs, azeem: i gave you the nick. we are not for you to care about |
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| 23:59.21 | eifzon | dooh, I still don't get this to work |
| 23:59.26 | ForkedSpoon | Your work here is good enough but you should do better |
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| 23:59.38 | abrotman | ForkedSpoon: are you a bot? |
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| 23:59.50 | ForkedSpoon | No, i hate those |
| 23:59.57 | Skaag | Are you a hate bot? |
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