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| 00:00.16 | esteel | geoffx: i would expect a game server to use as much ram as it needs.. what do you expect it to do? |
| 00:00.39 | Almathea | I have real buggy connection, is there a way to make apt timeouts be shorter? |
| 00:01.13 | lunaphyte | what determines who can use su to become root? |
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| 00:01.33 | geoffx | esteel: ive been creating counter strike servers for years in windows, i know nad its a well known aspect that while the cs server uses more memory the smoother will run, memory needs to be increased depending on how many slots the server can hold, mine is for a tleast 15 players |
| 00:01.34 | esteel | lunaphyte: you need to know the password.. |
| 00:02.27 | lunaphyte | esteel: well, right - but besides that.. like it used to be the wheel group, but that seems to have gone away. |
| 00:02.42 | esteel | geoffx: well i never administered a CS server but this sounds weird.. if you tell the server to use more playerslots it should just do what ever it takes to accomodate.. |
| 00:03.02 | esteel | lunaphyte: not that i would know about.. maybe you mix it with sudo? |
| 00:04.00 | geoffx | esteel: yes it does, but if u give the server more ram it can process more FPS properly |
| 00:04.11 | lunaphyte | esteel: no - i know the difference. |
| 00:04.16 | Almathea | lunaphyte, debian has specialty policy regarding su, which comes from deep philosophical thoughts by Stallman. No wheel group. |
| 00:04.31 | lunaphyte | ah - it looks like /etc/pam.d/su |
| 00:04.49 | esteel | Almathea: heh |
| 00:04.57 | lunaphyte | Almathea: i think i just found what you are describing :) |
| 00:05.03 | esteel | geoffx: hmm maybe some CS forum is of more help? |
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| 00:05.41 | mbroeker | Almathea, what does stallman think about the wheel group? is there a link or similar? |
| 00:06.09 | elyN | welcome to debian |
| 00:06.10 | Almathea | mbroeker, I found it years ago, I doubt it's hard to find today. |
| 00:06.13 | lunaphyte | i'm sure i can summarize: "i know what's best for you." |
| 00:06.20 | lunaphyte | ;) |
| 00:06.30 | geoffx | esteel: the kids writing in most cs forums are retards :) |
| 00:06.58 | geoffx | well thanks anyway, ill check about that c wrapper |
| 00:07.12 | arubin | prefers having a wheel group and not allowing root to ssh in |
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| 00:09.58 | Throat | that sounds weird indeed - if the process doesn't allocate the memory, then there's no way to force it to do so |
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| 00:10.18 | elyN | my laptop is burning |
| 00:10.34 | Throat | elyN, use nosmoke.exe |
| 00:10.35 | esteel | Throat: i guess its more like a cs server setting.. but i'm not familiar with cs/hl |
| 00:10.52 | elyN | ? |
| 00:10.59 | Throat | esteel, probably... |
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| 00:11.56 | Throat | elyN, see e.g. http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/96/Jun/nosmoke.html |
| 00:12.02 | Throat | or google your own version :) |
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| 00:12.59 | lunaphyte | what is the difference between the use of * vs ! in the password field in /etc/shadow? |
| 00:13.23 | elyN | Throat that is just sad |
| 00:13.31 | Throat | lunaphyte, they're two different chars :) |
| 00:13.37 | elyN | poor guy |
| 00:14.08 | Throat | elyN, well, the guy could finally be helped... thanks to nosmoke.exe - so happy end |
| 00:14.22 | elyN | Throat I thought you meant nosmoke.exe as in "Nyle is stoned 24/7" |
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| 00:14.37 | elyN | Throat I thought you were trying to tell me something lol |
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| 00:17.44 | SexyKen | How can one check the quota version ? |
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| 00:22.21 | Throat | dpkg -l quota |
| 00:22.21 | dpkg | ii quota 3.3-12.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 00:22.31 | Throat | dpkg, shaddup |
| 00:22.31 | dpkg | fine, be that way! |
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| 00:23.12 | Eulex | dpkg -i brain.deb |
| 00:23.12 | dpkg | package brain.deb is already installed |
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| 00:23.24 | elyN | epic drama |
| 00:23.51 | elyN | rm -rf /dev/brain0 |
| 00:25.07 | Eulex | dpkg -i brain.deb |
| 00:25.07 | dpkg | installs brain.deb into eulex's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 00:25.22 | Eulex | I was more expecting that response. |
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| 00:27.27 | INternat | out of corisoty, anyone happent o know how big, the full stable repository is? |
| 00:28.59 | lunaphyte | what's the term for taking 2 network interfaces and combining them into one? |
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| 00:29.36 | Tramp | lunaphyte: bonding |
| 00:29.51 | roe | how do I check a cd against an md5 of a cd image? |
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| 00:30.01 | lunaphyte | Tramp: thanks. |
| 00:30.05 | INternat | md5sum /dev/cdrom ? |
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| 00:34.23 | roe | INternat, I tried that but I get md5sum: /dev/hdc: Input/output error |
| 00:34.25 | lunaphyte | roe: make an image of the cd and checksum that file. |
| 00:34.35 | roe | lunaphyte, I have the md5 of the image |
| 00:34.57 | lunaphyte | i understand. |
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| 00:35.44 | jebix | i have two network cards, how/who/what decides which one a program like epiphany, ping, host, etc. will use? |
| 00:35.56 | lunaphyte | once you create the cd from the image, it's no longer the same thing - the hash will be different. |
| 00:36.15 | lunaphyte | jebix: your routing table, for the most part. |
| 00:36.41 | roe | ok, so how do I ensure that the cd I just burned is good? |
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| 00:36.59 | lunaphyte | make an image of it, and checksum that image. |
| 00:37.08 | jebix | i set iptables so epiphany can only use one; this makes epiphany stop working; it insists on using the one i block with iptables |
| 00:37.41 | roe | just so I have the work flow correct, I'm starting with an image, burning it to disk, then making an image of the disk and comparing the first and last image md5sums? |
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| 00:38.01 | lunaphyte | right. seems silly, but that would be what i would do. |
| 00:40.30 | enouf | Tramp: couldn't it also be bridging? |
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| 00:42.04 | Seb | roe: isomd5sum could be your friend |
| 00:42.28 | enouf | roe: burning the iso itself many times adds padding which wil alter the md5sum |
| 00:42.29 | Seb | or maybe not |
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| 00:43.28 | enouf | roe: most installer and livecds some with a "verify" or "check disk" option at boot: prompt - see f1-f10 keys |
| 00:43.37 | enouf | s/some/come |
| 00:43.47 | Tramp | enouf: hmm ... actually yes. bridging could probably also be phrased as "combining two interfaces into one" I guess. |
| 00:44.08 | jebix | i cannot find a way to configure epiphany to use particular interface |
| 00:44.21 | Almathea | lunaphyte, where did you get that one from? /dev/cdrom will give you same thing. |
| 00:44.54 | enouf | Tramp: righto - i tend to think of "bonding" as relating more to combining 2 ISP connections (or perhaps even LAN) into one .. i stink at networking though ;-) |
| 00:45.11 | Almathea | You do dd if=/dev/cdrom, and that's supposed to be different than using md5 right on it? |
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| 00:46.09 | enouf | what exactly ends up on CD after a burn of an ISO is highly dependent upon app configuration and drive make/model sometimes |
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| 00:47.56 | Tramp | enouf: I think that would be "loadbalancing outgoing traffic", not bonding |
| 00:47.58 | enouf | some apps like k3b will even generate their own md5sum of the burn and compare after "verify" option - this many times differs from the d/l ISO md5sum from the internet |
| 00:48.59 | enouf | Tramp: heh, well load balancing implies flow control only really ;-) bonding is just making use of both connections ;-) but as i say, somethings i really such at O_o |
| 00:49.17 | enouf | s/such/suck |
| 00:50.07 | Almathea | I still can't see why dding /dev/cdrom and md5summing that image can be any different from summing it straight ahead. |
| 00:50.23 | Almathea | I never suspected dd to do any magic on that part. |
| 00:50.37 | enouf | Tramp: also, IINM, bridging is a term generally used to combine two separate subnets into (looking like) one? |
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| 00:51.28 | enouf | Almathea: what are you talking about? |
| 00:51.45 | Tramp | enouf: yes. Bonding, as I know it, refers to two interfaces in the same subnet, which are combined to create one virtual IF (for redundancy and increased throughput) |
| 00:54.57 | Tramp | enouf: so a bridge would be "serial" (packets coming in on one side, being put out on the other) while bonding would be "parallel" (packats coming in or going out on either of the bonded interfaces) |
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| 00:55.53 | enouf | Tramp: interesting defines ;-) |
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| 00:56.38 | enouf | er definitions, comparisons, differences, etc |
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| 00:56.48 | hardbop200 | evening all! question - will modass build modules against vanilla kernel sources, or do they have to be debian sources? |
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| 00:58.13 | Tramp | enouf: both, bonding and bridging, work on layer 2, while your ISP example works on layer 3 |
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| 00:58.48 | enouf | Tramp: aha! pulling in the OSI model in eh? ;-) |
| 00:59.25 | enouf | hands Tramp a slice of seven layer cake |
| 01:00.42 | Tramp | nah - not too fond of sweet bakery |
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| 01:03.23 | enouf | hardbop200: not necessarily supported but http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-out-of-tree |
| 01:05.44 | hardbop200 | enouf: thanks for the ptr to the doc, just what I needed, thanks! |
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| 01:21.35 | infinity3 | here is a weird question. whats the most efficient way to get load as a percentage from the command line? |
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| 01:21.42 | infinity3 | tricky. |
| 01:21.47 | infinity3 | in one command. |
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| 01:24.09 | cafuego | infinity3: awk '{printf("%d%%\n", $1 * 100)}' < /proc/loadavg |
| 01:24.44 | cafuego | You should really divide that by the number of CPUs as well |
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| 01:26.25 | infinity3 | cafuego: yea. you have to |
| 01:26.40 | infinity3 | you could just remove the decimal point if you do it your way |
| 01:27.10 | infinity3 | but how can you get the # of CPUs and still do it in one line? thats my problem |
| 01:27.30 | cafuego | infinity3: What is multiplying by 100 if not removing the decimal point? :-) |
| 01:27.36 | asg | infinity3: greping /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:27.54 | lunaphyte | how can i print a list of packages installed that don't have any other packages depending on them? |
| 01:28.01 | infinity3 | cafuego: same difference. |
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| 01:28.15 | infinity3 | hm |
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| 01:28.21 | asg | lunaphyte: deborphan or new-fangled aptitude stuff most likely |
| 01:28.42 | lunaphyte | asg: thanks. |
| 01:28.53 | infinity3 | expr `cat /proc/loadavg | cut -d" " -f1 ` / `cat cpuinfo |grep -c processor` |
| 01:28.58 | infinity3 | doesn't work ... |
| 01:29.00 | infinity3 | heh |
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| 01:29.14 | DustyBin | has anyone got a working 2.6.24 debian kernel i could download off them? |
| 01:29.35 | ic3weasel | is it normal for your account to completly log itself out and kcik you back to the session manager, i was browsing with iceweasel |
| 01:29.37 | ic3weasel | should i be paranoid |
| 01:29.40 | ic3weasel | or does this happen sometimes |
| 01:29.55 | infinity3 | cafuego: can you read two values into awk? |
| 01:30.07 | ic3weasel | i just hope i wasnt infected with anyhting |
| 01:30.15 | Throat | ic3weasel, of course that's completely normal... it's called windows-compatibility mode |
| 01:30.19 | DustyBin | ic3weasel: sounds like linux spyware |
| 01:30.21 | cafuego | infinity3: Ugly-ass way: echo $((`awk '{printf("%d\n", $1 * 100)}' < /proc/loadavg`/`grep processor /proc/cpuinfo| wc -l`)) |
| 01:30.46 | infinity3 | cafuego: its one line :) |
| 01:30.49 | ic3weasel | windows-compatability mode, not sure what you mean |
| 01:30.52 | ic3weasel | linux spyware |
| 01:30.53 | ic3weasel | any other takers? |
| 01:30.56 | infinity3 | cafuego: impressive |
| 01:31.05 | cafuego | infinity3: with ; and && and || you can put an infinite amount of commands on one line |
| 01:31.30 | craigevil | ic3weasel: that can happen with bad plugins and if your video drivers arent installed properly |
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| 01:32.08 | ic3weasel | what does windows have to do with any of this throat |
| 01:32.42 | Throat | ic3weasel, I thought windows users are used to constant crashing.... having it under linux also makes them feel at home :-P |
| 01:32.47 | infinity3 | cafuego: thanks ffor the tips. my way wasn't working. |
| 01:32.53 | ic3weasel | thats an ad hominim |
| 01:33.02 | cafuego | infinity3: Note, will only work in bash |
| 01:33.05 | ic3weasel | based on a faulty assertion |
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| 01:33.11 | ic3weasel | that linux does not crash, when apparently it does |
| 01:33.14 | ic3weasel | you deny this truth |
| 01:33.27 | TerrorShocked | I've had linux crash before. |
| 01:33.30 | asg | ic3weasel: your session crashed, the system itself was still running. |
| 01:33.43 | ic3weasel | so this is normal |
| 01:33.44 | amphi | ic3weasel: I haven't seen a kernel panic in a _long_ time |
| 01:33.45 | TerrorShocked | Is there any shell command that lists what host a particular user has? |
| 01:33.48 | asg | ic3weasel: no |
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| 01:34.00 | ic3weasel | i get kde crashes all the time |
| 01:34.02 | ic3weasel | but it jsut keeps goin |
| 01:34.07 | ic3weasel | i got kicked all the way to the session manager |
| 01:34.09 | ic3weasel | user logged out |
| 01:34.12 | infinity3 | cafuego: i think your way can be shrunk a bit. .hmm |
| 01:34.13 | ic3weasel | that just had me a bit worried |
| 01:34.14 | asg | ic3weasel: pick something different then |
| 01:34.20 | cafuego | infinity3: undoubtedly |
| 01:34.32 | infinity3 | cafuego: by getting rid of the * 100 and / 100 |
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| 01:34.48 | cafuego | I'm not dividing by 100 |
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| 01:35.17 | infinity3 | cafuego: oops :) |
| 01:35.20 | Throat | ic3weasel, what we're saying is, no, it's not "common", but it can happen... |
| 01:35.24 | ic3weasel | i aws just asking if it was normal to have a webbrowser crash and completly end your session |
| 01:35.24 | ic3weasel | ok |
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| 01:35.28 | ic3weasel | so its nothing to be worried about |
| 01:35.34 | ic3weasel | malware, site expoits, |
| 01:35.45 | Throat | ic3weasel, what should we know :) |
| 01:35.46 | EtherNet | hello guys, how do I start alsa on reboot? cause I have to run alsaconf every time I boot up the system. |
| 01:35.51 | craigevil | ic3weasel: i would be more worried that kde keeps crashing thats not normal |
| 01:35.55 | ic3weasel | well you're a linxu geek arent you |
| 01:35.58 | ic3weasel | dont you all watch porn |
| 01:35.59 | ic3weasel | lol |
| 01:36.10 | ic3weasel | i get kde crashes all the time |
| 01:36.14 | ic3weasel | every distro ive ever used |
| 01:36.22 | ic3weasel | jsut the crash report thing pops up |
| 01:36.23 | ic3weasel | but it keeps going |
| 01:36.33 | Throat | ic3weasel, we try to, but every time we search for porn, we end up on some stupid usless warey sites |
| 01:36.34 | asg | ic3weasel: yes, we all watch porn. Feel free to move along or choose something besides kde |
| 01:36.46 | ic3weasel | then you're just not doing it right :P |
| 01:36.49 | amphi | ic3weasel: iceweasel crashes quite a lot for me; I don't think it likes having 100+ tabs open ;) |
| 01:36.57 | Throat | s/warey/warez/ |
| 01:37.00 | cafuego | infinity3: echo $((`cut -d' ' -f1 /proc/loadavg|tr -d .`/`grep processor /proc/cpuinfo|wc -l`)) |
| 01:37.04 | ic3weasel | move along |
| 01:37.06 | ic3weasel | are you in a hurry? |
| 01:37.30 | ic3weasel | it was probably the noscript plugin |
| 01:37.33 | ic3weasel | its even worse on windows |
| 01:37.40 | cafuego | ic3weasel: But just becasue kde sucks doesn't mean Linux does. Linux and the GUIO are two entirely different things. |
| 01:37.41 | asg | ic3weasel: if you have issues with kde, try #debian-kde |
| 01:37.45 | ic3weasel | it crashes so much, thats why they have the restore previous session feature |
| 01:37.54 | ic3weasel | kde wasnt my issue |
| 01:38.04 | cafuego | If it keeps crashing, I suggest it is. |
| 01:38.07 | ic3weasel | my session completly crashed |
| 01:38.19 | ic3weasel | gosh you peple cant read |
| 01:38.20 | infinity3 | cafuego: 3 less: echo $((`cut -d' ' -f1 /proc/loadavg|tr -d .`/`grep -c processor /proc/cpuinfo`)) |
| 01:38.23 | amphi | ic3weasel: indeed - that's a life saver |
| 01:38.24 | Throat | and that's not linked to a kde process? |
| 01:38.24 | ic3weasel | someone else said something about kde |
| 01:38.25 | ic3weasel | not me |
| 01:38.31 | asg | ic3weasel: but you assume your browser crashed it because of noscript? |
| 01:38.35 | ic3weasel | you're all putting words in my mouth |
| 01:38.35 | infinity3 | cafuego: I can't come up with anything better than yours |
| 01:38.37 | infinity3 | heh |
| 01:38.39 | cafuego | 12:36 < ic3weasel> i get kde crashes all the time |
| 01:38.46 | cafuego | infinity3: Please, stop trolling. |
| 01:38.51 | cafuego | Oh sorry :-) |
| 01:38.52 | ic3weasel | try a reading comprehension course cafuego |
| 01:39.22 | Throat | cafuego, evil auto-completion, eh? :) |
| 01:39.26 | cafuego | ic3weasel: I will, as soon as you go on a 'how to ask for help in a useful way' course. |
| 01:39.30 | asg | ic3weasel: how can one read a comprehension course if one cannot comprehend? |
| 01:39.31 | cafuego | Throat: isn't it just |
| 01:39.45 | ic3weasel | that is not my problem asg |
| 01:39.56 | asg | ic3weasel: nor is it cafuego's |
| 01:40.06 | Throat | asg, who would want to read a comprehension course, if he already comprehends? |
| 01:40.11 | cafuego | ic3weasel: otoh, you can bitch about my understanding of english the moment your dutch, german and french are as good as mine. |
| 01:40.27 | ic3weasel | why in the hell would i ever want to learn dutch |
| 01:40.35 | ic3weasel | will that make me a better programmer? |
| 01:40.39 | asg | Throat: can we just get on with the ad hominem abusive bits and tell him to fuck off |
| 01:40.47 | cafuego | might broaden your mind, it seems a bit limited currently |
| 01:40.55 | ic3weasel | how so |
| 01:40.56 | cafuego | anyway |
| 01:41.00 | Throat | asg, hm - lemme see |
| 01:41.05 | Throat | !confuse ic3weasel |
| 01:41.05 | dpkg | No, how are our gouda tomorrow, ic3weasel? pants of the republic of tibet with extra cream |
| 01:41.11 | ic3weasel | can't make a coherent statement? |
| 01:41.15 | ic3weasel | 'anyway' |
| 01:41.17 | ic3weasel | you gotta justify that |
| 01:41.18 | darmi | this is a debian channel |
| 01:41.18 | ic3weasel | back up dick |
| 01:41.20 | asg | *plonk* |
| 01:41.45 | cafuego | infinity3: I'm sure it can all be done with a single awk app, but this one seems to work |
| 01:42.03 | infinity3 | cafuego: i'm not going to push it .i'll use yours :) |
| 01:42.13 | ic3weasel | how about a courtesy flush asg |
| 01:42.44 | dondelelcaro | ic3weasel: if you've got a specific problem, ask a question; otherwise please stop antagonizing people. |
| 01:42.48 | ic3weasel | i did |
| 01:42.56 | ic3weasel | but people couldnt understand it |
| 01:43.03 | ic3weasel | kept saying crap about me complaining about kde |
| 01:43.06 | ic3weasel | i said that was not my problem |
| 01:43.11 | ic3weasel | its not my fault people cant comprehend |
| 01:43.12 | dondelelcaro | ic3weasel: then asking more clearly, and please stop overusing enter. |
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| 01:43.29 | dondelelcaro | ic3weasel: spend the next ten minutes contemplating how you can make your question more clear and help us help you. |
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| 01:44.53 | asg | so, beers all around then? |
| 01:45.13 | enouf | EtherNet: man alsactl, but shouldn't be necessary |
| 01:46.56 | jetscreamer | !beer for all |
| 01:46.57 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Bornem Tripple for for all |
| 01:47.05 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 01:47.18 | Throat | hehe ... one for all of us? |
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| 01:47.54 | Throat | .oO( 1/761 ) |
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| 01:50.10 | craigevil | must be a BIG decanter |
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| 01:51.38 | enouf | what an asshole |
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| 01:52.08 | fiendishfish | enouf, would you please refrain from using such 'colorful' language. |
| 01:52.09 | enouf | those are just the kind of punk kids that need a spanking ;-) |
| 01:52.27 | fiendishfish | </joke> |
| 01:53.10 | Throat | now that was a joke I didn't get |
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| 01:54.26 | jetscreamer | there was a joke? how come i'm not laughing uproariously? |
| 01:54.31 | jetscreamer | !laugh |
| 01:54.31 | dpkg | rolls around on the floor laughing |
| 01:54.57 | Throat | lawl? |
| 01:55.14 | Throat | raffel? |
| 01:59.18 | lymeca | I'm trying to install Debian onto hard drives on an Adaptec RAID card for which drivers apparently don't exist for in etch or lenny netinst CDs |
| 01:59.38 | lymeca | This is quite frustrating...how should I go about completing this task>? |
| 01:59.58 | Throat | what drivers will you use in the end? |
| 02:00.29 | Throat | and thank god for the question, I was starting to miss the troll, silent as it was |
| 02:01.31 | lymeca | aacraid |
| 02:01.32 | lymeca | I think |
| 02:01.38 | lymeca | It's an Adaptec 31025 |
| 02:01.42 | Throat | a) you could have a look at ... wossname... kamuto, I think |
| 02:01.45 | lymeca | 12-port mixed SAS/SATA |
| 02:01.54 | lymeca | Kmuto Etch amd64 CD didn't work |
| 02:02.04 | lymeca | I tried the latest one with the 2.6.24 kernel |
| 02:02.35 | lymeca | going to the console in all cases and typing "modprobe aacraid" always returns an error saying that that module isn't found |
| 02:02.48 | Throat | else... why not install on a single harddisk, then get the raid running when the system is up and copy the whole system onto the raid |
| 02:03.26 | Throat | I mean, I guess you can just steal a disk from the raid and then add it back in lateron? |
| 02:03.28 | vvd | hello, i want my privacy back. what should i do? |
| 02:03.28 | lymeca | Throat: because the destination HDDs are SAS |
| 02:03.43 | lymeca | and my motherboard only has SATA ports |
| 02:03.59 | lymeca | jetscreamer: do you have any idea how I can install Debian? |
| 02:04.16 | jetscreamer | i know nothing of raid |
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| 02:04.24 | Throat | hm, and no spare SATA disk around for temporary use? |
| 02:04.31 | lymeca | oh |
| 02:04.32 | lymeca | well |
| 02:04.38 | lymeca | I have 8 of them in the same case |
| 02:04.44 | Throat | heh :) |
| 02:04.55 | dbastos | hi there; i wrote XTerm*VT100.metaSendsEscape: True on my ~/.Xdefaults but xterm keeps on thinking my left alt is not my meta key; any advice? |
| 02:05.02 | jetscreamer | are you trying to put / on raid? |
| 02:05.04 | Throat | vvd, close your eyes... |
| 02:05.07 | jetscreamer | the bot has a factoid about that |
| 02:05.30 | jetscreamer | !raid install |
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| 02:05.34 | jetscreamer | oh well |
| 02:05.35 | vvd | Throat: thx ;) |
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| 02:05.46 | lymeca | jetscreamer: I have a RAID-1 array with two SAS drives using an Adaptec 31025 PCI-E card which should work using the aacraid kernel module |
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| 02:06.18 | lymeca | And I want to install Debian on this RAID-1 array |
| 02:06.23 | lymeca | but d-i completely freezes |
| 02:06.36 | lymeca | blue screen of death |
| 02:06.38 | lymeca | =[ |
| 02:07.01 | lymeca | Adaptec doesn't support Debian either |
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| 02:07.13 | lymeca | I don wanna use Red Hat =[ |
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| 02:08.08 | Throat | well, I still think you would have a less hard time if you get everything running as data-disks in a non-raid installed system and then moving / over |
| 02:08.13 | Frosty- | I have an uptime of 1.x, yet I can't find why. top and htop report 99.9% cpu idle, disk light flashes once a second, what is it? |
| 02:08.17 | Frosty- | uptime = load avg |
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| 02:08.22 | enouf | lymeca: you were here earlier under a different name - didn;t you get my messages? |
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| 02:09.05 | lymeca | enouf: I got some of them at least. |
| 02:09.13 | lymeca | Don't know about all of them |
| 02:09.17 | lymeca | I got kicked out of my location |
| 02:09.25 | lymeca | had to move this box elsewhere to get it running |
| 02:10.46 | Throat | Frosty-, the system was a hell lot busy earlier, but now it's over? |
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| 02:10.56 | enouf | drp: just a guess, but at the boot prompt do; expert pci=nommconf <==from earlier lymeca |
| 02:11.05 | Frosty- | Throat, its stuck on 1.00 for 30 mins+ |
| 02:11.10 | enouf | drp: other options might be pci=routeirq, acpi=off, .. also the f1-f10 screens have some options about specific hardware, though yours might not take those args listed explicitly, it might need something similar -- could try a kmuto newer kernel (do "/msg dpkg kmuto") note; not considered official, also could ask in #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net |
| 02:11.10 | lymeca | oh I definitely did not get that one |
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| 02:11.32 | Throat | Frosty-, but isn't the load average that uptime shows you the average since start-up? |
| 02:11.36 | Xcerca | anyone know a good debian based distro that used kde by default ? |
| 02:11.56 | Throat | oh, it aint |
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| 02:12.05 | obnauticus | how do i list the installed packages i have from aptitude>? |
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| 02:12.43 | Frosty- | :) |
| 02:13.06 | Throat | obnauticus, dpkg -l |
| 02:13.07 | esteel | dpkg --get-selections ? |
| 02:13.25 | Throat | Frosty-, hm, perhaps you have 100 CPUs? :) |
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| 02:13.44 | obnauticus | does anyone here know what this error means? |
| 02:13.45 | obnauticus | Loading zaptel framework: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.18-8.1.15.el5.028stab047.1/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
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| 02:13.52 | Frosty- | load average 1.00 in google returns a few results, going through them now :) |
| 02:13.52 | obnauticus | my friend is asking how to fix it |
| 02:14.22 | martianixor | guys I tried cdrecord -dao speed\=8 myfile, I had to interrupt it cause it made my system to go extremely slow, when I killed hald I could gain control over the system again |
| 02:14.51 | esteel | Throat: JUST 100??? http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200803/errord/lots_of_processors.png :P |
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| 02:15.08 | martianixor | now although nothing seem to be using the CD Writer it's led is blinking, some of you might recognize this problem from sometime earlier |
| 02:15.08 | obnauticus | Frosty- how do you get a Load average of 1.0 |
| 02:15.09 | obnauticus | LOL |
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| 02:15.53 | martianixor | now I didn't use k3b and the problem is still there |
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| 02:16.58 | Navi | Hi, how do I change APT timeout? apt-get update keeps hanging due to slow repos and it takes a while to come out of it. |
| 02:17.04 | jetscreamer | it's YOU |
| 02:17.23 | martianixor | jetscreamer: are you singing? |
| 02:17.41 | jetscreamer | yeah that's it |
| 02:17.51 | eonblue | ive had problems with apt repositories from various locations -- i just download and compile everything like i used to |
| 02:18.02 | eonblue | apt breaks anyway |
| 02:18.09 | eonblue | tarballs ftw |
| 02:18.19 | jetscreamer | dselect is your god |
| 02:18.29 | jetscreamer | martianixor: have you tried a different burner |
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| 02:18.43 | jetscreamer | maybe that one just sucks |
| 02:18.51 | eonblue | i find the front right burner works best for me |
| 02:18.57 | eonblue | especially boiling water for pasta |
| 02:19.02 | eonblue | the back ones are finnicky lately |
| 02:19.02 | jetscreamer | that's normal |
| 02:19.06 | martianixor | jetscreamer: I can't, there's no other burner available, besides the one I have isn't that old, nor unknown |
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| 02:19.32 | jetscreamer | martianixor: how about the icky question: does it work in windows. |
| 02:19.45 | martianixor | jetscreamer: heh, I don't have windows |
| 02:19.46 | jetscreamer | or insert_os_here |
| 02:19.49 | eonblue | does anything work in windows |
| 02:19.56 | jetscreamer | yes quite a lot |
| 02:19.59 | jetscreamer | but that's ot |
| 02:20.05 | martianixor | heh |
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| 02:20.25 | eonblue | i gave up my last windows installation when i bought a macbook and a ps3 |
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| 02:21.41 | martianixor | jetscreamer: I'm just going nuts over this problem, cause I burned a CD last week using the same burner and the same installation |
| 02:22.25 | Xcerca | is there a file besides xorg.conf that says what resolutions are availialbe to nvidia-settings ? |
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| 02:22.32 | martianixor | jetscreamer: I don't think it's a burner thing, and I have a brand new power supply |
| 02:22.36 | jetscreamer | i've updated the firmware on one before and it fixed the problem it was having |
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| 02:22.41 | jetscreamer | but no idea |
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| 02:23.17 | martianixor | jetscreamer: well I'm not that experienced, how could one do that ..., I'd run a search |
| 02:23.42 | jetscreamer | martianixor: go to the makers website is how i do it |
| 02:23.59 | jetscreamer | if it's around it should be there, with instructions |
| 02:24.06 | jetscreamer | probably windows based instructions |
| 02:24.13 | jetscreamer | but no idea |
| 02:24.28 | martianixor | jetscreamer: thanks, greatly appreciated |
| 02:24.40 | jetscreamer | hth but it's my hail mary |
| 02:25.23 | jetscreamer | i usually have some old pos lying around that still works to test if it's the drive |
| 02:25.40 | jetscreamer | narrow it down |
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| 02:29.36 | lymeca | enouf: I tried pci=routeirq, acpi=off and I tried pci=nommconf and the same behavior happens (freezing 3-4 steps into d-i) even with kmuto's 2.6.24 images |
| 02:29.57 | martianixor | jetscreamer: I'll try, I'm just kind of isolated here, so there were no way to test using a friend's device at the moment |
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| 02:31.36 | lymeca | enouf: I asked in #debian-boot and am waiting a reply. I think that I need paramters like it says in the f1-f10 pages but it doesn't have anything about my specific Adaptec card |
| 02:31.44 | lymeca | enouf: How do I know how to alter it correctly? |
| 02:31.48 | enouf | lymeca: ok, you need someone more knowledgeable with your situation, see other advices ... reCheck your BIOS settings, try BOOT_DEBUG param maybe |
| 02:32.20 | enouf | lymeca: man sdparm, man bootparam, i would guess (even setpci) |
| 02:32.34 | enouf | otherwise sit tight |
| 02:32.36 | lymeca | wow |
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| 02:32.40 | lymeca | umm ok |
| 02:32.49 | enouf | it's a dev channel |
| 02:33.04 | catzilla | does anyone have experience with installing debian to a flash drive? |
| 02:33.24 | lymeca | enouf: is there a sane way to install debian elsewhere and copy it over? |
| 02:33.28 | catzilla | i got everything to work except grub install |
| 02:33.39 | lymeca | or will I experience this beyond working with d-i? |
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| 02:34.53 | arooni_ | what packages do i need to install for http://phpmotion.com/content/view/16/32/ |
| 02:35.01 | arooni_ | has a list of requirements there but no package names |
| 02:35.24 | catzilla | hmm maybe i'll try install-mbr |
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| 02:35.49 | arooni_ | ok i'll ask one @ a time |
| 02:35.55 | arooni_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.57 | arooni_ | how do i get that? |
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| 02:36.49 | arooni_ | what about - LAME MP3 Encoder |
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| 02:42.28 | arooni_ | how do i enable multiverse |
| 02:42.42 | lymeca | lol |
| 02:42.59 | lymeca | arooni_: #ubuntu please |
| 02:43.10 | eonblue | ive got multiverse |
| 02:43.11 | eonblue | in my pants |
| 02:43.22 | esteel | does that hurt? |
| 02:43.41 | lymeca | in the short term I bet it feels real nice |
| 02:43.49 | lymeca | but it corrodes your sould slowly from the insight out |
| 02:43.49 | arooni_ | i'm talking about debian |
| 02:44.13 | lymeca | arooni_: multiverse is a section for packages to go into in Ubuntu, not Debian |
| 02:44.27 | dondelelcaro | arooni_: if you're asking about the multiverse, it's nothing to do with Debian. For php, install php4-cgi; for lame, /msg dpkg debian-multimedia |
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| 02:45.17 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: You're smart. Ever worked with Adaptec RAID cards before? |
| 02:45.34 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: yes |
| 02:46.05 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: but the ones that I've worked mainly with are older ones; if you've got a new-ish one, you probably need the kmuto images. |
| 02:46.08 | arooni_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.32 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: I'm using a kmuto image with 2.6.24 |
| 02:46.38 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: and what's going on? |
| 02:46.52 | Throat | arooni_, without the leading space :) |
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| 02:47.06 | lymeca | same as with 2.6.18 etch netinst CDs |
| 02:47.14 | lymeca | d-i hangs at the 3rd or 4th step |
| 02:47.16 | Throat | !tell arooni_ about search |
| 02:47.25 | Throat | for the other stuff... |
| 02:47.27 | lymeca | I'm just choosing to boot with 'expert' though |
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| 02:47.43 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: I have a feeling I need to add boot parameters, but I have no idea which ones |
| 02:48.21 | arooni_ | W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 02:48.24 | arooni_ | is that a problem? |
| 02:48.25 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: try giving noacpi or pci=noacpi or similar. |
| 02:48.32 | arooni_ | or just a harmless error message |
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| 02:48.52 | dondelelcaro | arooni_: it's not a problem, but you'll want to install that key (it's in debian-multimedia-keyring, iirc) |
| 02:49.04 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: I tried 'expert pci=routeirq, acpi=off' |
| 02:49.04 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: they're listed on F3 or something, iirc. |
| 02:49.17 | enouf | lymeca: 31205 or 31025? |
| 02:49.19 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: yes but none specific to my card, Adaptec 31025 |
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| 02:49.34 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: if it's hanging, it doesn't really have anything to do with the card |
| 02:49.55 | lymeca | oh |
| 02:49.56 | lymeca | wait |
| 02:49.59 | lymeca | enouf you're right |
| 02:50.01 | lymeca | sorry |
| 02:50.05 | lymeca | Adaptec 31205 |
| 02:50.11 | arooni_ | ok so installed debian-multimedia-keyring; now how do i get LAME MP3 encoder installed (fi its not already) |
| 02:50.21 | dondelelcaro | arooni_: you just install it. |
| 02:50.48 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: maybe hang is the wrong word? It finishes loading modules it thinks it needs |
| 02:50.56 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: and then what happens? |
| 02:50.59 | arooni_ | should i already install/remove with aptitude |
| 02:51.00 | lymeca | blue screen |
| 02:51.01 | lymeca | no text |
| 02:51.02 | arooni_ | and not apt-get install |
| 02:51.07 | lymeca | one grey bar at the bottom |
| 02:51.10 | lymeca | nothing changes |
| 02:51.10 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: can you switch to a console? |
| 02:51.13 | lymeca | yes |
| 02:51.19 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: what are the messages on vt4? |
| 02:51.24 | lymeca | but commands usually cause the whole system to hang |
| 02:51.45 | lymeca | let me check |
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| 02:52.58 | enouf | might want to tell other concerned parties lymeca aka; drp aka; neokkrin |
| 02:53.31 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: yeah, generally the only way to figure out this kind of hanging is to see what kernel is outputing; in my experience it almost invariably is broken acpi, but it can be other things |
| 02:54.06 | arooni_ | hey folks i cant get mplayer and mencoder installed :( http://pastie.caboo.se/168581 |
| 02:54.09 | arooni_ | ideas on how to fix |
| 02:55.16 | dondelelcaro | arooni_: remove oss-compat |
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| 02:56.39 | dondelelcaro | arooni_: or better, see why you don't have /etc/modprobe.d, since Debian distributes that directory. |
| 02:56.41 | runemast1 | !pastebin |
| 02:56.41 | dpkg | Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: http://paste.lisp.org, http://rafb.net/paste/, http://pastebin.ca/, http://picpaste.com for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe> |
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| 02:58.29 | enouf | arooni_: i built lame myself and installed it, but this was a while back, not sure if that's required or what |
| 02:58.42 | dondelelcaro | enouf: it's in Debian Multimedia, so no... |
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| 02:59.02 | enouf | dondelelcaro: noacpi is not a valid option, "noapic" is |
| 02:59.08 | enouf | acpi=off is |
| 02:59.15 | arooni_ | i dont see a ffmpeg-php package in the cache .... does it exist? |
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| 02:59.25 | lymeca | enouf: so 'expert acpi=off' would do it? |
| 02:59.29 | enouf | dondelelcaro: since when? (the LAME thing) |
| 03:00.06 | dondelelcaro | enouf: since quite a long time |
| 03:00.18 | enouf | lymeca: expert chooses mode of install (all modes are shown in f2-3 or thereabouts), for ACPI to be disabled acpi=off |
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| 03:01.03 | dondelelcaro | enouf: noacpi is a valid option as well. |
| 03:01.11 | enouf | lymeca: here's the generic kernel param boot option list http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.18/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
| 03:01.13 | arooni_ | what about - GD Library 2 or higher ..... i dont see any gd lib stuff |
| 03:01.27 | dondelelcaro | (though acpi=off and pci=noacpi is probably what you actually want) |
| 03:01.46 | lymeca | dondelelcaro: the last thing alt+f4 says before freezing is "cdrom-detect: Searching for Debian installation media..." |
| 03:02.00 | enouf | dondelelcaro: pci=noacpi perhaps, but just "noacpi" is not, afaik |
| 03:02.00 | lymeca | this is true of etch or lenny or kmuto |
| 03:02.09 | dondelelcaro | enouf: noacpi [LIBATA] Disables use of ACPI in libata suspend/resume |
| 03:02.27 | enouf | dondelelcaro: must've changed very recently |
| 03:02.34 | dondelelcaro | lymeca: yeah, that sure sounds like acpi issues; try acpi=off and pci=noacpi |
| 03:02.40 | lymeca | hmmm |
| 03:03.07 | lymeca | I just tried it with 'expert acpi=pff' |
| 03:03.11 | dondelelcaro | enouf: ISTR it was a valid option before the various acpi options came about (2.4 timeframe?), though there may have been a period where it wasn't off |
| 03:03.14 | enouf | dondelelcaro: where is that documented please |
| 03:03.18 | lymeca | I guess i'll add the pci=noacpi |
| 03:03.28 | dondelelcaro | enouf: in the kernel parameters file |
| 03:03.38 | enouf | right - iirc, 2.4 did have it, it went away, making a comeback now? |
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| 03:03.56 | enouf | dondelelcaro: kernel version is? |
| 03:04.01 | dondelelcaro | enouf: well, it seems to be specific to libata now; 2.6.23 |
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| 03:04.08 | enouf | ok then |
| 03:04.11 | dondelelcaro | (just happened to be the version which I had handy) |
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| 03:04.24 | enouf | i try to jump to .18 for etch related issues |
| 03:04.37 | dondelelcaro | enouf: yeah, but he's using kmuto, so... |
| 03:04.57 | enouf | dondelelcaro: i see "libata.noacpi [LIBATA] Disables use of ACPI in libata suspend/resume" |
| 03:05.04 | enouf | in .24 |
| 03:05.19 | woanga | is there something wrong with the hp printer driver? after a recent upgrade, my print-out is in sort a monochrome greenish blue instead of black. it happens to two apps i have tried - abiword and openoffice. |
| 03:05.41 | dondelelcaro | enouf: could be they changed it again; it's that way in 2.6.23.14 |
| 03:05.48 | enouf | dondelelcaro: and then jump to .23/.24 when concerning kmuto images ;;-) |
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| 03:06.31 | dondelelcaro | but anyway, you're correct that the right option is acpi=off with pci=noacpi, I just keep remembering plain noacpi (for hysterical raisins) |
| 03:06.42 | enouf | dondelelcaro: yep, i see it in .23 now - so, ACPI's been through the wringer it seems |
| 03:07.22 | enouf | dondelelcaro: and yeah, many (those not too careful) mistakenly see noapic as noacpi (i do too sometimes) |
| 03:08.36 | icesword | how i can know which port is listening at one site ,like apache |
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| 03:09.07 | pipeline | netstat -patn |
| 03:09.13 | s | What's the base-config equivelant in AMD64 Etch? |
| 03:09.21 | s | apt-file search base-config provides no useful results for me... |
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| 03:09.27 | lymeca | enouf, dondelelcaro: okay my head hurts. which boot params should I pass to this 2.6.24 kmuto amd64 etch kernel? |
| 03:09.51 | lymeca | experty acpi=off pci=noacpi |
| 03:10.04 | lymeca | just like that? (without the extra y) |
| 03:10.30 | enouf | lymeca: well, now, with amd64 .. er is that AMD64 CPUs? http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.24/Documentation/x86_64/boot-options.txt |
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| 03:10.41 | s | Yes. |
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| 03:12.15 | enouf | expert acpi=off is the same as pci=noacpi (or very close), might try noapic, lapic .. 1st thing is to make sure though that the controller driver is loaded though - i'm merely grasping at straws here , from past circumstantial stuff |
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| 03:13.07 | enouf | which, i personally have not seen whether or not aacraid is correct for your controller, i don't know |
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| 03:14.08 | usr_ | hello |
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| 03:14.50 | usr_ | does anyone have a quick command line way of converating rich text editor ^M line breaks into strandard unix carage returns? |
| 03:14.52 | dondelelcaro | shade369: please turn whatever that is off. |
| 03:15.16 | dondelelcaro | usr_: dos2unix |
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| 03:15.43 | pipeline | enouf: no, they're not the same at all |
| 03:15.48 | dondelelcaro | (or perl -pi -e 's/\r//g'; or perl -pi -e 's/\r/\n/g', depending on if it's mac or pc) |
| 03:15.52 | pipeline | enouf: acpi=off just means it won't use any of the "p" in acpi. |
| 03:15.52 | usr_ | dondelelcaro: ya i though that two, swear i ran the file against it and they didn't clean out. let me try it again to make sure. unless there is an argument i don't knwo about. |
| 03:16.01 | pipeline | enouf: pci=noacpi will screw with interrupt routing |
| 03:16.21 | usr_ | ahhh |
| 03:16.23 | usr_ | it was a mac |
| 03:16.25 | usr_ | thats it |
| 03:16.31 | dondelelcaro | usr_: dos2unix will rip out all \r\n; if it's just \r that you want to turn to \n, then use perl -pi -e 's/\r/\n/g' foofile; |
| 03:16.31 | usr_ | Genious |
| 03:16.32 | usr_ | thanks |
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| 03:16.50 | enouf | dammit lymeca 9005:0285:9005:02bd Adaptec 31205 (Marauder120) |
| 03:17.15 | usr_ | dondelelcaro: ya that perl line is great, i used to have it but never fomited it to memory, I apreciate it. I know i wcould i writen a line like that myself but my brain is fried right now and i just needed to do it quick.. really apreaciate the input |
| 03:17.30 | enouf | pipeline: acpi itself screws with interrupt routing |
| 03:17.53 | LEVI4TH4N | está Ouvindo: Dream Theater - The Great Debate [13:47m/192kbps/44kHz] |
| 03:17.55 | pipeline | enouf: Yes. But acpi=off does not prevent the use of acpi for interrupt routing. |
| 03:18.08 | dondelelcaro | LEVI4TH4N: please turn whatever that is off |
| 03:18.18 | wols | enouf, pipeline: are you sure it's not apic you mean about irq routing? acpi is power management |
| 03:18.45 | pipeline | wols: haha, I'm blind |
| 03:18.57 | dondelelcaro | wols: the first c is configuration, which is what is at issue here |
| 03:19.19 | dondelelcaro | (and yes, acpi does IRQ routing) |
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| 03:19.35 | enouf | they all do, noapic concerns i/o apic, lapic; local apic, and acpi, whether or not with pci= |
| 03:19.36 | dondelelcaro | s/is/may be/ |
| 03:19.45 | lymeca | err |
| 03:19.51 | arooni-mobile | how do i get dpkg to auto install depdencies .......... dpkg -i + ? |
| 03:19.58 | wols | arooni-mobile: you don't |
| 03:20.01 | dondelelcaro | arooni-mobile: use aptitude or apt-get. |
| 03:20.08 | arooni-mobile | but i gotta deb here |
| 03:20.14 | arooni-mobile | that i cant get from a repo |
| 03:20.17 | dondelelcaro | arooni-mobile: so dpkg -i foo.deb; then aptitude -f install; |
| 03:20.20 | enouf | lymeca: i overlooked the aacraid stuff many times because of your giving of wrong model number :-/ |
| 03:20.30 | lymeca | sorry enouf! |
| 03:20.35 | lymeca | does it make more sense now? |
| 03:20.54 | lymeca | disabling acpi still causes d-i to hang |
| 03:21.20 | enouf | well, is that module loading? is the BIOS set to boot from your PCIe raid array |
| 03:21.21 | enouf | ? |
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| 03:21.34 | lymeca | no |
| 03:21.40 | lymeca | the bios is set to boot from the cd drive |
| 03:21.43 | lymeca | so I can install debian |
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| 03:22.20 | prolix | hello |
| 03:22.47 | enouf | config SCSI_AACRAID tristate "Adaptec AACRAID support" depends on SCSI && PCI help This driver supports a variety of Dell, HP, Adaptec, IBM and ICP storage products. For a list of supported products, refer to <file:Documentation/scsi/aacraid.txt>. To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module will be called aacraid. |
| 03:23.02 | prolix | i was wondering how i would go about setting ntpd to query a time serve and update my system clock at each boot? |
| 03:23.08 | dondelelcaro | !set the time |
| 03:23.08 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch), dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid), and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 03:23.11 | prolix | s/serve/server |
| 03:23.12 | dondelelcaro | prolix: see above |
| 03:23.18 | enouf | lymeca: what about the HDD boot order |
| 03:23.31 | prolix | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 03:23.33 | enouf | lymeca: and or Controller recognition in Boot Order list |
| 03:23.38 | prolix | and thanks to whoever wrote that bot |
| 03:24.15 | arooni-mobile | how do i fix this issue when trying to install a debian package not in a repo: http://pastie.caboo.se/168589 |
| 03:24.42 | lymeca | enouf: Ummm I told the controller to boot my raid-1 array and ignore my raid-6 array wrt bootnig |
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| 03:25.49 | Throat | arooni-mobile, you were told? |
| 03:26.11 | arooni-mobile | Throat, i'm sorry i was disconnected a minute ago and lost scrollback |
| 03:26.21 | arooni-mobile | if i was told something before would you mind msging me or telling me again |
| 03:26.30 | Throat | <dondelelcaro> arooni-mobile: so dpkg -i foo.deb; then aptitude -f install; |
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| 03:28.14 | enouf | lymeca: that would appear to be correct - so is the module loading? try "modprobe aacraid" once booted via switching to alt-f4 perhaps |
| 03:28.22 | arooni-mobile | ok so i did that and it ended up removing php5-ffmpeg |
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| 03:28.43 | lymeca | enouf: modprobe aacraid always says module doesn't exist |
| 03:28.49 | enouf | lymeca: did you answer about the CPUs? and you're using the kmuto amd64 one now? |
| 03:29.19 | enouf | hrm, well, go back to etch kernel .. grep the config ffs |
| 03:29.51 | lymeca | I have two Opteron 2216HEs and yes I am current;y usiong kmuto 2.6.24 amd64 |
| 03:30.12 | arooni-mobile | Throat, do you know what to do given the output and given that i tried those commands? |
| 03:30.29 | lymeca | two sas drives in raid-1 and 8 sata2 drives in raid-6 |
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| 03:31.24 | enouf | heck, even my debian .16 has it |
| 03:31.24 | enouf | $ grep AACRAID /boot/config-2.6.16-2-686 |
| 03:31.25 | enouf | CONFIG_SCSI_AACRAID=m |
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| 03:31.56 | Throat | arooni-mobile, no, you havent told us what's going wrong with aptitude -f install; (if anything) |
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| 03:32.17 | enouf | lymeca: give the url i posted earlier a good going over http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.24/Documentation/x86_64/boot-options.txt |
| 03:32.20 | Throat | and I used up my clairvoyance budget for today already |
| 03:33.11 | arooni-mobile | the error messages were here: http://pastie.caboo.se/168589 |
| 03:33.23 | arooni-mobile | ok well i appreciate your help in any case |
| 03:34.18 | lymeca | okay so... |
| 03:34.39 | Throat | arooni-mobile, that's just the dpkg -i |
| 03:35.00 | lymeca | enouf: beyond disabling acpi, what other params should I be looking at specifically? |
| 03:35.01 | enouf | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ#head-c98687f3ef12e70aaec28073f7b5178fcff040a5 lymeca |
| 03:35.17 | enouf | lymeca: i'm not sure, as i noted earlier |
| 03:35.43 | s | Can uswsusp use a swapfile, or does it require a swap partition? |
| 03:35.44 | Throat | arooni-mobile, dpkg -i just installs the package, but cant do it fully, because the dependencies are not fulfilled - aptitude -f is for fixing the dependencies and should heal them afterwards |
| 03:35.54 | arooni-mobile | thorat, http://pastie.caboo.se/168594 |
| 03:36.07 | arooni-mobile | i see now ; thanks for explaining |
| 03:36.31 | Throat | arooni-mobile, hm, perhaps you have to use --nodeps (or whatever the exact option is) to the dpkg to get the package installed at all despite the failed dependencies... |
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| 03:36.48 | arooni-mobile | so i add that to the dpkg command? |
| 03:36.50 | enouf | lymeca: ignore comments about "fakraid" as yours is real hardware raid - see linux-ata.org to see some fakeraid chips (promise, highpoint, any OnBoard crap) |
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| 03:37.20 | Jckf | How does a Debian install handle being moved between two computers? |
| 03:37.46 | arooni-mobile | Throat, what is the syntax? dpkg -i --nodeps ? |
| 03:37.49 | arooni-mobile | its not workign for me |
| 03:37.51 | Throat | arooni-mobile, no, it seemed to have worked fine - you just should reject the "solution" to the problem that suggests removing the package you installed with dpkg -i and choose a solution which includes the package |
| 03:38.09 | arooni-mobile | ok so i say "No" to th esolution |
| 03:38.13 | Throat | arooni-mobile, I was wrong about that extra option |
| 03:38.25 | Throat | arooni-mobile, well... do you want the package installed, or not? |
| 03:38.29 | arooni-mobile | i do ! :) |
| 03:38.39 | arooni-mobile | but i reject every solutoin cuz they all say remove it |
| 03:38.41 | Throat | then that should answer your last question, right? |
| 03:39.04 | arooni-mobile | well sure... but i dont have any choices it seems |
| 03:39.10 | arooni-mobile | its either remove... or nothing at all |
| 03:39.22 | Throat | hm |
| 03:39.33 | Throat | I guess they can't be fulfilled |
| 03:39.34 | arooni-mobile | hmm i guess i have to install from source :( |
| 03:39.41 | Throat | because |
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| 03:39.58 | Throat | the package... is probably for testing/unstable and you're running etch |
| 03:40.06 | Throat | and testing/unstable is not in your repros |
| 03:40.13 | Throat | see here: |
| 03:40.17 | Throat | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13etch5 is installed. |
| 03:41.23 | Throat | so I guess 2.6.X is in testing/unstable, but 2.3.6 is in stable |
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| 03:41.44 | arooni-mobile | so what do you think i should do? |
| 03:41.54 | arooni-mobile | installing from source is likely to require the same dependencies |
| 03:41.56 | Throat | don't they offer a package for etch also? |
| 03:42.27 | Throat | well, not really - the dependency comes from the libc you compiled against |
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| 03:43.09 | arooni-mobile | well |
| 03:43.15 | arooni-mobile | i dont see an etch package :( |
| 03:43.38 | simonrvn | !simple sid backport |
| 03:43.38 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
| 03:43.49 | simonrvn | that's what you do |
| 03:44.04 | Throat | simonrvn, it's not a debian package |
| 03:44.22 | simonrvn | you're on your own ;) :P |
| 03:44.23 | arooni-mobile | ok so looks like i need to install from source |
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| 03:44.53 | Throat | or update to testing :) |
| 03:44.58 | arooni-mobile | oh ones |
| 03:45.01 | simonrvn | btw, even it's some deb from outside debian, that should still work ;) |
| 03:45.03 | Throat | rock <------> hard place |
| 03:45.03 | arooni-mobile | noes that sounds scary |
| 03:45.17 | Throat | ops, sorry |
| 03:45.20 | simonrvn | just mod the instructions a bit |
| 03:45.23 | Throat | rock <--- YOU ---> hard place |
| 03:47.07 | enouf | lymeca: i also mentioned trying BOOT_DEBUG= as a boot option ; http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/amd64/ch05s02.html.en#installer-args |
| 03:47.11 | Throat | my, is etch really 2.3.6 and testing 2.7.3? |
| 03:47.23 | Throat | that's an awfully huge difference |
| 03:47.29 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 03:47.31 | simonrvn | !etch |
| 03:47.31 | dpkg | Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>). |
| 03:47.42 | simonrvn | almost a year ago |
| 03:48.04 | simonrvn | saw a post in d-d-a about a beta lenny |
| 03:48.13 | simonrvn | yesterday IIRC |
| 03:48.20 | lymeca | ok so... |
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| 03:50.32 | Throat | I mean... obviously they go at least to around 6 on the last digit... so that's at least around 20 subversions and 4 minor versions within a year |
| 03:51.48 | Throat | and the average debian release is around every 4 years... so we'll be around libc version 5.7.2 around then :-/ |
| 03:53.02 | simonrvn | nah, i think debian will pretty close to target for lenny (hoping) |
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| 03:55.45 | prolix | i wish that there were a verbose version of man foo, complete with examples. |
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| 03:55.57 | prolix | because this fend for yourselfology gets frustrating at times |
| 03:56.35 | quentusrex | I had to install a package that thought it didn't have a dependancy met, but it did. How do I get apt-get to ignore this package? |
| 03:56.35 | enouf | lymeca: wait a minute! - you're not even getting to the cdrom media? try "install generic.all_generic_ide=1" |
| 03:56.46 | quentusrex | Everytime I want to do something apt-get wants to remove the package. |
| 03:57.33 | enouf | dammit! you mention some things here, somethings over there (#debian-boot on oftc.net) and all under various names .. |
| 03:58.44 | quentusrex | can someone help? how do I get apt-get to ignore the fact that it thinks one of my packages is missing a dependancy. |
| 03:59.39 | quentusrex | I misspelled the dependant package when I built the deb. I spelled it this_package-core on some and this-package-core on others. Please how do I fix this? |
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| 04:01.21 | quentusrex | anyone? |
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| 04:01.36 | quentusrex | Or, how do I fix the dependant list inside a .dep file? |
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| 04:04.17 | enouf | !equivs |
| 04:04.17 | dpkg | i heard equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also <usrlocal> |
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| 04:12.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | gah |
| 04:12.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | was saying |
| 04:12.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought target _is_ all 3-4 years :-P |
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| 04:15.26 | Jckf | How does a Debian install handle being moved between two computers? |
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| 04:15.57 | Xenguy_ | Jckf: what method? |
| 04:16.04 | Jckf | HDD swap |
| 04:16.30 | Xenguy_ | Jckf: well - boot loaders need to be dealt with I think |
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| 04:17.05 | Jckf | Both the source and target computer will end up with one drive. |
| 04:17.17 | Xenguy_ | Jckf: otherwise, linux can detect hardware well I think |
| 04:17.34 | Xenguy_ | Jckf: totally do-able |
| 04:18.30 | Xenguy_ | Jckf: not sure if you need to (as root) edit /etc/fstab) |
| 04:18.35 | SexyKen | Anyone know why 'quotaon /my/device' would return: quotaon: Too many levels of symbolic links |
| 04:22.36 | quentusrex | enouf, how can I fix the mistyped dependancy in the .dep files? |
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| 04:23.58 | lymeca | enouf: I tried typing "expert install generic.all_generic_ide=1" |
| 04:24.06 | lymeca | still hangs |
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| 04:25.24 | quentusrex | how can I fix a misspelling in a .deb file that has already been built? |
| 04:26.41 | s | quentusrex: I thought deb files were basically archives. Shouldn't you be able to open it with something like gunzip or something? (I forget which compression algorithm it uses, so take your pick =) |
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| 04:27.23 | enouf | lymeca: well, that's incorrect |
| 04:27.28 | lymeca | I tried |
| 04:27.34 | arooni-mobile | whats up with this: sudo: Can't mkdir /var/run/sudo/chasetoys: File exists |
| 04:27.37 | lymeca | expert generic.all_generic_ide=1 |
| 04:27.41 | s | enouf: Remember, the customer is always wrong! |
| 04:27.43 | lymeca | that hangs as well |
| 04:28.00 | enouf | quentusrex: dpkg -x to extract somewhere, or ar -x file.deb to extract into 3 files |
| 04:28.10 | arooni-mobile | how do i fix my sudo? |
| 04:28.48 | enouf | lymeca: well, you obviously wouldn't have even tried "expert install ..." if you so much as bothered to look at f1-f2...f-10 |
| 04:29.01 | lymeca | I know |
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| 04:29.30 | lymeca | I've read it though |
| 04:29.35 | lymeca | and now I tried it correctly |
| 04:29.38 | lymeca | expert generic.all_generic_ide=1 |
| 04:29.41 | lymeca | and it still hangs |
| 04:29.43 | enouf | the install{gui}, expert{gui} part will only matter/differ later on in installation |
| 04:29.56 | quentusrex | enouf, once it's extracted how do I rebuild it? |
| 04:30.00 | enouf | what about debug? |
| 04:30.20 | enouf | quentusrex: dpkg-buildpackage |
| 04:30.43 | enouf | quentusrex: wait |
| 04:30.48 | enouf | make a new one wtf? |
| 04:31.03 | enouf | you're attempting to be malicious? |
| 04:31.44 | quentusrex | no |
| 04:31.47 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.18 | quentusrex | the openqrm community built .deb files, but misspelled the core dependancy when they build two of the plugins |
| 04:32.29 | quentusrex | I'm trying to find out how to fix this so I have a stable system. |
| 04:32.36 | enouf | and i told you how to get around it |
| 04:33.00 | quentusrex | I have to install this one 50+ machines. I think it'd be faster to fix it. |
| 04:33.14 | quentusrex | and maybe submit the fixed dep to the community. |
| 04:33.24 | quentusrex | or submit how to fix it. |
| 04:33.36 | enouf | i don't know any qrm |
| 04:33.46 | enouf | nor is it an official deb |
| 04:34.11 | quentusrex | http://www.openqrm.org |
| 04:34.18 | quentusrex | virtualization software |
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| 04:34.29 | enouf | great, ak them to fix their mistakes |
| 04:34.33 | enouf | ask* |
| 04:35.17 | quentusrex | it's better if when I ask them, if I give them the steps to fix it. |
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| 04:37.12 | quentusrex | why is it that I installed mysql-server-5.0, but when I start /etc/init.d/mysqld start, I still get this error when trying to set the root password: error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111 |
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| 04:37.42 | quentusrex | The command ps -AF outputs this: mysql 13954 13920 0 52455 26492 0 14:31 pts/0 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --defaults-file=/opt/qrm/etc/my5.cnf --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/lib/mysql/dev |
| 04:37.53 | quentusrex | so I know it's running. |
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| 04:38.21 | quentusrex | Also this line: root 13920 1 0 920 1312 0 14:31 pts/0 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --defaults-file=/opt/qrm/etc/my5.cnf --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/lib/mysql/dev.pid --log-err |
| 04:38.34 | quentusrex | why can't I connect to the socket? |
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| 04:43.02 | enouf | i have no idea |
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| 04:44.13 | SexyKen | Anyone have any ideas yet? -bash: /sbin/quotaon: Too many levels of symbolic links |
| 04:45.00 | Tramp | quentusrex: does this socket exist? |
| 04:45.13 | quentusrex | I'm getting the mysql Error 2002 |
| 04:48.35 | enouf | SexyKen: iso9660 FS? |
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| 04:49.59 | enouf | SexyKen: oh, you're trying to employ disk quotas? no idea .. eeerm exclude thinfgs like /sys and maybe /dev/ and /proc too even |
| 04:50.28 | Hack_Z | hi |
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| 04:52.43 | Hack_Z | anyone have this problem, was using httpd and tryed setting up cgi-bin and chmod it 755 in home dir of public_html? |
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| 04:53.06 | Hack_Z | will try to make me download the .pl .cgi or .exe or whatever |
| 04:53.14 | Hack_Z | even though i edited the httpd.conf |
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| 04:53.39 | SR71-Blackbird | !beer |
| 04:53.39 | dpkg | [beer] liquid gold mate |
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| 05:11.57 | kumanderkonki | hello |
| 05:12.08 | kumanderkonki | am i in #debian? |
| 05:12.25 | Speedism | yes |
| 05:12.34 | SerajewelKS | no, you're in #ubuntu |
| 05:12.35 | SerajewelKS | hides |
| 05:12.39 | kumanderkonki | lol |
| 05:12.42 | kumanderkonki | tanks! |
| 05:12.49 | kumanderkonki | wow this thing is working - irssi |
| 05:12.59 | kumanderkonki | im chatting in terminal woot |
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| 05:13.52 | Riotblade | Hey, anyone happen to have an remote xwindows installation guide? |
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| 05:28.28 | from_downunder | How can I tell what 'configure' options that were used when compiling samba for etch. I've downloaded the samba source with apt-get, and looked at samba_3.0.24-6etch9.diff.gz. Can I assume that the configure options were per the resulting 'configure.in' file provided in the source package. Is there an easy way to confirm this? |
| 05:28.48 | stew | from_downunder: look at debian/rules |
| 05:30.01 | from_downunder | found it. thanks lots |
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| 05:30.05 | sina | hi guys |
| 05:31.21 | extor | Is there any linux/GNU package that can make or edit flash files? Would be nice |
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| 05:33.14 | sina | is it possible to err.. dist-upgrade from debian to debian64 |
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| 05:36.21 | extor | probly |
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| 05:42.13 | enouf | no, not probably, just no |
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| 05:44.48 | extor | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F4L |
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| 05:48.30 | Varanger | hello! |
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| 05:50.13 | Varanger | How can I make a custom repository for Debian packages? 'got acouple of debs that I want to use in the rest of my machines without copiyng to /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 05:51.53 | dondelelcaro | Varanger: you can do so pretty easily using apt-ftparchive |
| 05:52.07 | dondelelcaro | see http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/bin/build_archive if you're lost |
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| 05:52.54 | Varanger | !atp-ftparchive |
| 05:53.05 | RyanRyan52 | We are having issues with where to put something...we have a program that runs "lshw -xml" and uploads it to our database. We want to keep each output saved somewhere. We are currently using /tmp...is there a better place to put it? |
| 05:54.57 | Varanger | dondelelcaro: The page isn't loading :( |
| 05:55.48 | RyanRyan52 | We might want to look at this output a year later w/out having the database. So we need a place where this file can live. (w/out possibly being wiped out) |
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| 05:59.11 | RyanRyan52 | /usr/share/xml maybe? |
| 05:59.30 | RyanRyan52 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.39 | RyanRyan52 | I should read before I ask |
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| 06:02.03 | sina | hi guys, i downloaded linux-kbuild-2.6.24-1-amd64 and linux-headers-2.6.24-1-amd64 |
| 06:02.24 | sina | now im trying to do a make-kpkg kernel_image in the dir /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-1-amd64 |
| 06:02.27 | sina | and its giving me this error: |
| 06:03.00 | Varanger | bye |
| 06:03.03 | sina | scripts/Makefile.build:41 /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-1-amd64/scripts/basic/Makefile no such file or directory |
| 06:03.06 | sina | any ideas |
| 06:03.18 | sina | i have afeeling im missing something silly |
| 06:03.28 | sina | but not sure how to tie in kbuild dir to linux headers dir |
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| 06:05.37 | sina | hullo? |
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| 06:20.08 | djones_ | hi |
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| 06:31.12 | dude_ | how do i chroot X ? |
| 06:31.40 | dude_ | i got an 32 install on another partition, i want to chroot X into it |
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| 06:32.41 | devilwol1 | hi all |
| 06:34.51 | devilwol1 | i face a problem to install debian |
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| 06:34.52 | dondelelcaro | dude_: why do that? just run whatever applications you want to run in 32 bit from that chroot. |
| 06:35.16 | devilwol1 | always stop n hv error at cups system configuration =.= |
| 06:35.23 | dondelelcaro | dude_: you can bind mound /home and /tmp within the chroot so the X sockets are there, and continue on. |
| 06:35.40 | dondelelcaro | devilwol1: what's the error, and which version of Debian are you installing? |
| 06:35.51 | dude_ | i want the novelty aspect, of a fully fledge stable 32 environment, i am currently using lenny amd64 |
| 06:36.38 | monkey_ | Hi, is anyone running sendmail on debian? The configuration seems broken by default (i.e. wrong order of parameters etc.) Or have i just missed something? |
| 06:37.12 | streuner_ | !sendmail |
| 06:37.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, sendmail is a huge bloated insecure <Mail Transfer Agent>. Also me ask about <sendmail rant> and <mta comparison>. |
| 06:37.40 | streuner_ | use postfix or exim (default in Debian) |
| 06:37.45 | devilwol1 | dendelelcaro,i install until half way then CUPS Configuration error message comes out,i install version 4 netinst |
| 06:38.12 | dondelelcaro | monkey_: you've missed something. |
| 06:38.26 | SerajewelKS | dpkg: no, sendmail is a huge bloated insecure <Mail Transfer Agent>. Also me ask about <mta comparison>. |
| 06:38.26 | dpkg | okay, SerajewelKS |
| 06:39.00 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: sendmail =~ s/huge bloated insecure// |
| 06:39.01 | dpkg | OK, dondelelcaro |
| 06:39.11 | monkey_ | dondelelcaro: Ok, so apt-get install sendmail and apt-get install sendmail-bin is not enough? |
| 06:39.40 | streuner_ | dpkg: sendmail =~ s/me ask/ask me/ |
| 06:39.40 | dpkg | OK, streuner_ |
| 06:39.52 | dondelelcaro | monkey_: just installing sendmail is enough. What's the problem that you've got? |
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| 06:40.24 | naught102 | where are mysql databases stored on debian normally? |
| 06:40.42 | dondelelcaro | naught102: /var/lib/mysql |
| 06:40.58 | dondelelcaro | naught102: but that's completely configurable |
| 06:41.59 | streuner_ | monkey_: why do you think you need sendmail in the first place? |
| 06:42.36 | dondelelcaro | yeah, the general suggestion is that you run postfix or possibly exim if you don't know why you want to run sendmail |
| 06:42.37 | monkey_ | dondelelcaro: Well, first thing I got a broken mc-file: The MAILER DEFINITIONS were in the wrong place. Fixing that and running sendmailconfig (generates a couple of permission denied errors). Then starting it I get. 554 5.0.0 QueueDirectory (Q) option must be set |
| 06:42.56 | dondelelcaro | monkey_: first things first, you don't run sendmailconfig. |
| 06:43.04 | naught102 | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 06:44.25 | dondelelcaro | monkey_: and the default sendmail.mc has the mailer definitions in the right location |
| 06:44.57 | dondelelcaro | monkey_: in general, you should just be able to edit sendmail.mc appropriately, set local-host-names or anything else you need, and then just run make from /etc/mail. |
| 06:45.40 | dondelelcaro | monkey_: I'm guessing that if you're getting permission denied messages, it's because you've got configuration files that aren't from Debian's sendmail package around, and therefore aren't gid smmsp. |
| 06:45.57 | monkey_ | dondelelcaro: dondelelcaro: Yes, thats what I was hoping for:) Ok, so I'll clean out this configuration, restore the default one and try that. And I stay a long way from sendmailconfig |
| 06:46.29 | monkey_ | dondelelcaro: Allright, thanks for the pointers, should get me going again. |
| 06:46.33 | dondelelcaro | I think sendmailconfig is supposed to work, but I've honestly never used it. |
| 06:47.17 | streuner_ | monkey_: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 06:47.47 | monkey_ | dondelelcaro: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch5 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 06:49.42 | streuner_ | dondelelcaro: the sendmail factoid was ok to me, because in a newbie channel it should warn about things which are dangerous for them... |
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| 06:50.10 | dondelelcaro | streuner_: the right thing would be for it to recommend that someone consider a different MTA, not make erroneous claims about it. |
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| 06:50.30 | dondelelcaro | postfix is far larger than sendmail is, for example |
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| 06:52.49 | simonrvn | did anyone happen to notice the new emacs icon? rather nice |
| 06:53.00 | aadil | hi |
| 06:53.29 | aadil | i am having some trouble killing a process, it has PID 322 and is snmpd |
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| 06:53.44 | hoxu | aadil, kill -9? :p |
| 06:53.49 | aadil | so far, kill, killall and pkill don't help |
| 06:53.54 | dondelelcaro | simonrvn: I don't think I've got anything that displays it, so I'd never see it. |
| 06:53.58 | aadil | hoxu: didnt help either |
| 06:54.05 | dondelelcaro | aadil: what's its status? |
| 06:54.10 | hoxu | aadil, zombie then |
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| 06:54.46 | aadil | root 322 0.0 0.4 3188 2168 ? D Mar06 10:43 /usr/sbin/snmpd -s -l /dev/null |
| 06:55.00 | aadil | that;s what a ps aux give me |
| 06:55.03 | dondelelcaro | aadil: it's in uninteruptible io sleep; when it comes out of that, it will die. |
| 06:55.10 | dondelelcaro | aadil: if you want to know why, check dmesg. |
| 06:55.13 | simonrvn | i run -snapshot in "multi-tty mode", so i regularly have the gtk window open and shows a small version of it in openbox'sD[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D titlebar |
| 06:55.16 | streuner_ | dondelelcaro: specially these "erroneous claims" are sometimes important that somebody understands it... |
| 06:55.19 | simonrvn | aaaah |
| 06:55.23 | simonrvn | sorry |
| 06:55.26 | aadil | dondelelcaro: can u please enlighten me? |
| 06:55.37 | dondelelcaro | streuner_: I already fixed it appropriately |
| 06:55.40 | dondelelcaro | !sendmail |
| 06:55.40 | dpkg | sendmail is one of the older <Mail Transfer Agents>, configurable using m4 and it's own cf language. If you don't know why you want to use sendmail, consider using <postfix> or <exim> instead. Ask me about <mta comparison> for more information. |
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| 06:55.58 | hoxu | aadil, happen to use nfs? |
| 06:56.25 | aadil | hoxu: no - it is a firewall |
| 06:56.35 | dondelelcaro | aadil: it just means that that process has made a kernel call which hasn't returned; once it returns, it will stop. Check dmesg; for details. |
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| 06:57.57 | aadil | dondelelcaro: checked dmesg - only noted the usual boot messages |
| 06:58.36 | dondelelcaro | aadil: well, then you can try to attach strace to it, but that may fail; your only other option is to wait for it to stop, or restart. |
| 06:58.46 | aadil | i see |
| 06:59.42 | aadil | thank you dondelelcaro |
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| 07:06.28 | PiousMinio1 | Anyone know of anything like orb, but for linux? |
| 07:07.49 | PiousMinion-lap | VLC works sometimes, but has no easy way to change transcoding options, and tends to crap out on the smallest connection hiccup. |
| 07:07.59 | maligor | what's orb? |
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| 07:08.30 | PiousMinion-lap | It's a streaming/trnscoding server for windows with a nice web interface. |
| 07:08.40 | PiousMinion-lap | think slingbox. |
| 07:10.29 | Coweater | peercast/geekast maybe |
| 07:10.43 | maligor | there's helix dna producer too, but it's probably hellishly hard to configure and use |
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| 07:11.56 | PiousMinion-lap | peercast would only work with the peercast client if I'm not mistaken. |
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| 07:13.36 | maligor | icecast has theora support |
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| 07:15.06 | PiousMinion-lap | icecast does video? transcoding with selectable bitrate? |
| 07:15.19 | PiousMinion-lap | I will have to look that up. |
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| 07:17.37 | pilgrim | I added a group then added myself. however the groups command doesn't show the change. How do I reload the groups? |
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| 07:18.26 | Carolyna_ | Hello, play online with me , |
| 07:18.28 | Carolyna_ | http.//jugar-online.blogspot.com/ |
| 07:18.56 | Carolyna_ | Carolina Cerezuela |
| 07:18.58 | Carolyna_ | http://carolina-cerezuela.blogspot.com/ |
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| 07:22.00 | hoxu | Carolyna_, take your spam elsewhere please. |
| 07:22.15 | hark | pilgrim: logout/login or use newgrp |
| 07:23.18 | hoxu | pilgrim, if you use newgrp, note that it sets the effective group for file creations etc, so be extra careful with it |
| 07:24.52 | streuner_ | !ops Carolyna_ spams us |
| 07:24.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: streuner_ complains about: Carolyna_ spams us |
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| 07:34.03 | phorce1 | pilgrim: you can do "newgrp NEW_GROUP ; newgrp YOUR_REGULAR_LOGIN_GROUP" (your regular login groups is usually the same as your login username on Debian systems) but that will only make the new groups part of your list on the current console. |
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| 07:34.52 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: that won't work as expected |
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| 07:35.02 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: unless you mean s/;/\n/ |
| 07:35.05 | phorce1 | pilgrim: and I just noticed it appears to do strange things to your .bash_history |
| 07:35.35 | PiousMinion-lap | maligor: the icecast.org faq says it only does audio, no video. |
| 07:35.53 | phorce1 | SerajewelKS: I should have just listed it as two separate commands. I so seldom combine commands on a single line that I usually get the syntax wrong |
| 07:35.54 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: for the same reason that "bash ; bash" won't start bash inside a new instance of bash -- it will run bash once, wait for it to quit, and then start another |
| 07:36.13 | phorce1 | SerajewelKS: Ahhh |
| 07:36.16 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: the syntax is fine, it's the semantics of the newgrp command that make it not work as you expected |
| 07:37.16 | phorce1 | SerajewelKS, pilgrim: testing something else. brb |
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| 07:39.13 | phorce1 | SerajewelKS, pilgrim: I thought using su (your own username) --- then exiting back might update the groups entries too, without screwing with bash in a bad way. It doesn't. The new group shows in the su shell but is gone when you exit back. |
| 07:39.27 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: nod, that's expected |
| 07:39.42 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: there isn't a way to add to the current process' list of groups, you have to start a new process |
| 07:40.04 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: or rather there is, but it would have to be built-in to bash |
| 07:40.05 | phorce1 | I pick at this issue occasionally because I always run multiple consoles in screen and logging out/in is a big pain in the rear. |
| 07:40.08 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: and it's not |
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| 07:41.02 | phorce1 | and I usually depend on the addition of the new group in more than one console. |
| 07:41.02 | pilgrim | phorce1: same happens if you login from a console |
| 07:41.10 | pilgrim | but not gnome terminal |
| 07:41.32 | pilgrim | kind of ridiculous that we have to log out for this to take effect... |
| 07:41.41 | dimir | Morning! |
| 07:41.57 | pilgrim | G'morning! |
| 07:44.00 | pilgrim | what gets run on a login anyway? |
| 07:44.04 | phorce1 | pilgrim: it might only be screwing up my .bash_history because I'm using screen. That's a touchy area anyway |
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| 07:45.14 | phorce1 | I start ending up with lines that look like this when I use the up_arrow to scroll back in my history: |
| 07:45.24 | phorce1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:49.51 | scuq | hi |
| 07:50.00 | phorce1 | That line should be 'cd /home/gvl2/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/dvb-s' but for some reason it puts the full internal printf command that should be used to display it rather than the interpreted output. |
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| 07:50.20 | jean-patoche | hi |
| 07:51.33 | scuq | i try to make a debian package with some debconf questions, but the questions are not asked if I install the package with dpkg -i, on a dpkg-reconfigure the questions are asked, can anyone help me with this? |
| 07:52.14 | scuq | the db_input, db_go functions are called within the "config" script |
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| 07:52.29 | simonrvn_ | phorce1: using mc, aren't you? ;) |
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| 07:53.02 | Carolyna_ | Hola, juega gratis online conmigo, |
| 07:53.02 | Carolyna_ | http://jugar-online.blogspot.com/ |
| 07:53.14 | simonrvn_ | go away |
| 07:53.17 | phorce1 | simonrvn_: no, just screen. But I have mc. I'm not sure you were here for the beginning of this about the cause |
| 07:53.23 | simonrvn_ | !ops Carolyna_ spamming |
| 07:53.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn_ complains about: Carolyna_ spamming |
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| 07:53.42 | simonrvn_ | phorce1: looks exactly like what mc would do |
| 07:54.15 | phorce1 | simonrvn_: We were discussing a possible way to get a new group added without logging out/in using the newgrp command |
| 07:54.39 | simonrvn_ | though it doesn't do that for user entered cd commands, only for internally cd'ed to dirs |
| 07:54.56 | simonrvn_ | phorce1: it's doable, but very temporary |
| 07:55.10 | phorce1 | simonrvn_: It hoses up my .bash_history but that may be because I'm using screen which tends to confuse the history a bit anyway. |
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| 07:56.25 | simonrvn_ | phorce1: i think bash can share history like zsh now, but don't take my word for it. zsh has this neat feature that you can share the history between shells. you just hit enter to get the fresh list |
| 07:56.45 | phorce1 | simonrvn_: using newgrp it is permanent. just 'newgrp NEW_GROUP' then 'newgrp DEFAULT_GROUP' and the new group is added to your groups list for that login session. |
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| 07:57.13 | simonrvn_ | phorce1: for the session. that's what i meant by temporary |
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| 07:57.46 | simonrvn_ | afterwards it doesn't matter anyway ;) |
| 07:57.54 | simonrvn_ | oh shaddup you dead HDD |
| 07:58.16 | phorce1 | simonrvn_: But that is, in effect, permanent. Because when you log out it get added to your groups list at the next login anyway |
| 07:58.23 | simonrvn_ | (i have this dead ide drive in a long-running machine...) |
| 07:58.47 | simonrvn_ | phorce1: yes true. i blame being tired for my dumbness |
| 07:59.12 | phorce1 | simonrvn_: I have one that I'm trying to recover with gpart but I have no machines with gpart that will let me plug it in as a slave drive |
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| 07:59.33 | Carolyna_ | Carolina Cerezuela |
| 07:59.34 | Carolyna_ | http://carolina-cerezuela.blogspot.com/ |
| 07:59.49 | simonrvn_ | Carolyna_: go away |
| 08:00.12 | phorce1 | simonrvn_: /ignore it, I already have |
| 08:00.33 | simonrvn_ | i bet it's a bot |
| 08:00.34 | phorce1 | simonrvn_: Al I see is you telling it to go away |
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| 08:00.54 | simonrvn | /ig -replies foo |
| 08:01.05 | simonrvn | ignores replies too |
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| 08:01.29 | simonrvn | (irssi feature) |
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| 08:02.59 | phorce1 | simonrvn: re: shared history. I'd have to make my history file REALLY big because I usually have about 6 windows open in screen plus a couple outside of screen all doing different things. Would be a pain anyway to suddenly have commands from the wrong session at the "top" of my arrow-key history list. |
| 08:03.25 | simonrvn | phorce1: you get used to it :) |
| 08:03.41 | simonrvn | actually comes in handy most of the time |
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| 08:04.09 | simonrvn | mine's currently at 221K |
| 08:04.21 | simonrvn | set it to 4000 so... |
| 08:04.44 | phorce1 | simonrvn: Not when I have a console open that I've been waiting 4 days for a reply from a developer to re-test a 3-line command and I've scrolled off thousands of commands into the history file in the interim. |
| 08:04.53 | simonrvn | i also have it remove dupes, so those are unique entries |
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| 08:05.17 | simonrvn | phorce1: you can selectively turn that off |
| 08:05.40 | simonrvn | unsetopt whateveritis |
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| 08:06.11 | simonrvn | or turn it on when needed, and have it off by default |
| 08:06.14 | phorce1 | kinda wishes screen would do a .bash_history.scr.(0|1|2|3|...) |
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| 08:07.25 | phorce1 | then when I absolutely have to close out my screen session (like for a re-login to add new groups) I would have all my histories back in the correct windows when I restarted it |
| 08:07.26 | simonrvn | that would be nice... i dunno what you do with screen, but i have it start a few shells or commands, depending on which conf i call via alias |
| 08:08.11 | simonrvn | (my 'default' one starts up my emacs multi-tty ;) |
| 08:08.41 | simonrvn | oh which reminds me... |
| 08:08.44 | phorce1 | simonrvn: I use it because I randomly stat/stop projects and never really know which machine I'll be sitting at when I want to go back to working on something <grin> |
| 08:09.01 | phorce1 | s/stat/start/ |
| 08:09.06 | simonrvn | hehe :) |
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| 08:09.17 | SerajewelKS | i use it because it's better than five putty windows when i have to use a windows box |
| 08:09.45 | simonrvn | Gary: Carolyna_ is a suspected bot that keeps spamming stuff in here |
| 08:10.06 | simonrvn | i gtg... getting up early |
| 08:10.14 | phorce1 | l8r |
| 08:10.19 | simonrvn | see you later |
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| 08:10.47 | SerajewelKS | plus being able to disconnect and resume an arbitrary set of shells is nice |
| 08:11.27 | SerajewelKS | sometimes i use screen on my own box when e.g. transcoding a video -- then if X dies it doesn't kill the transcode off |
| 08:11.35 | phorce1 | needs to script the default screen startups on a couple of machines |
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| 08:12.43 | phorce1 | I can actually start screen and get back to "where I was before I had to log out" in under 10 seconds on all of them but it wiould be better if I just had to type "dfltscreen" |
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| 08:13.42 | Carolyna_ | Hello, play online with me , |
| 08:13.42 | Carolyna_ | http.//jugar-online.blogspot.com/ |
| 08:14.38 | Carolyna_ | Hello, play online with me , |
| 08:14.38 | Carolyna_ | http.//jugar-online.blogspot.com/ |
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| 08:19.39 | hoxu | markybob, #debian-women on oftc I think |
| 08:20.05 | markybob | of course....my bad. |
| 08:20.20 | hoxu | thanks |
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| 08:33.10 | enouf | for whomever recalls the guy with the Adaptec RAID SAS PCIe controller card trying Etch, then kmuto images, and various acpi=off, pci=nommconf, type boot params .. well, turns out it was the CD Drive -- he swapped the cdrom drive with another, reset BIOS defaults, and viola! |
| 08:34.05 | enouf | er voÃÂla |
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| 08:40.44 | mhymn | How can I realize that etch use my both CPU's, I have AMD Athlon 64 X2 that is a dual core CPU |
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| 08:41.59 | cahoot | mhymn: cat /proc/interrupts might give a hint |
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| 08:43.45 | mhymn | cahoot: yes, thanks, I think one of cores isn't in use, what should I do? |
| 08:44.35 | cahoot | make sure the kernel supports the hw? |
| 08:45.56 | mhymn | cahoot: this is my 'uname -a': Linux jnprx 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 02:43:29 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 08:47.27 | cahoot | mhymn: that should be correct - but someone else probably has more relevant help to offer |
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| 08:54.20 | mhymn | sorry everybody! etch doesn't use my both cores of CPU, what should I do? |
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| 08:58.05 | JeffH | How do I specify a password when mounting a samba share on the command line? |
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| 08:59.49 | rahsputin | Good morning everone !! I've been up all night playing around with my friends Debian install with a dead mouse using Strg/Shift Num arrows to move around :P is there a possiblity to speed up the mouse arrow... and since i use fluxbox on my machine where there is a file named .fluxbox/keys there i can edit key combos to execute apps... is there such a file in gnome to since this machne runs gnome |
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| 09:01.36 | rahsputin | such a file would be helpful since we do not have a mouse here |
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| 09:03.22 | enouf | mhymn: cat /proc/cmdline says? |
| 09:04.06 | mhymn | enouf: yes, here: root=/dev/sda2 ro |
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| 09:04.47 | ApOgEE- | JeffH, mount -t smbfs -o rw,username=abc,password=abc //sambaserv/folder /mnt/samba |
| 09:05.04 | enouf | mhymn: pastebin your entire dmesg please |
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| 09:05.13 | JeffH | thanks. |
| 09:05.26 | SparFux | Why isn't transport-smtp included in debian gnunet-server package? |
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| 09:06.56 | JeffH | anyone know what 'smbfs: mount_data version 1936941424 is not supported' means? |
| 09:07.38 | rahsputin | thanx ;) |
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| 09:07.57 | mhymn | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m57b65c89 |
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| 09:10.43 | enouf | rahsputin: poke through all that "man -k mouse" returns |
| 09:11.34 | rahsputin | i'd .... it says unknown information .... |
| 09:11.39 | ApOgEE- | JeffH, means that the symlink /sbin/mount.smbfs -> /usr/sbin/mount.smbfs is missing. |
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| 09:12.11 | JeffH | thanks. |
| 09:12.33 | enouf | mhymn: Brought up 2 CPUs <--- ? |
| 09:12.38 | DEadPuNk- | hellooo anyone tell me how to mount a partition ? |
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| 09:13.09 | DEadPuNk- | i right click on the partition and mount! but got errors |
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| 09:13.49 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, which type? |
| 09:14.03 | DEadPuNk- | its another linux partition |
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| 09:14.36 | DEadPuNk- | i need to be root to do this? but on debian4.0 cant log as root |
| 09:14.43 | ApOgEE- | how about mount -t ext2 ? |
| 09:14.53 | DEadPuNk- | how to do it with command line |
| 09:14.55 | mhymn | enouf: it says but it doesn't! I mean here is my cat /proc/interrupts. take a look please: http://pastebin.com/m2a22d8eb |
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| 09:15.40 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, how about sudo ? |
| 09:16.07 | DEadPuNk- | i just install debian ! i havent install anything on it |
| 09:16.24 | enouf | mhymn: show me cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 09:17.50 | mhymn | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m401dfd07 |
| 09:18.49 | enouf | mhymn: which is fine |
| 09:19.19 | mhymn | enouf: what do you mean? which of what?? |
| 09:19.25 | enouf | mhymn: i think you're not seeing the interrupts b/c the system I/O APIC takes care of that |
| 09:19.58 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/otherdisk |
| 09:20.03 | enouf | mhymn: which is fine == 2 CPUs shown, 0 and 1 http://pastebin.com/m401dfd07 |
| 09:20.24 | DEadPuNk- | ok ApOgEE- |
| 09:20.39 | DEadPuNk- | how to list the other partition on my HDD? |
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| 09:20.52 | ApOgEE- | sudo fdisk -l |
| 09:21.06 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, sudo fdisk -l |
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| 09:21.38 | mhymn | enouf: but when I use applications such as 'ffmpeg' just on of cores is in use! is that correct? |
| 09:21.54 | DEadPuNk- | ApEtc, mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 09:22.02 | DEadPuNk- | when i type the command mount |
| 09:22.09 | DEadPuNk- | i got this |
| 09:22.18 | DEadPuNk- | ApOgEE-, * |
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| 09:22.27 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /mnt/otherdisk |
| 09:22.32 | ApOgEE- | or ext3 |
| 09:22.33 | enouf | mhymn: yes, for single threaded applications |
| 09:22.38 | DEadPuNk- | :) thanx ApOgEE- |
| 09:23.01 | enouf | mhymn: not sure which ones are multithreaded, but many are not |
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| 09:23.06 | dA78 | How to use ipw2100 wlan card? If i want to connect with my AP => "ipw2100: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart." |
| 09:23.51 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, welcome |
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| 09:24.18 | mhymn | enouf: thanks a lot ;) |
| 09:24.30 | enouf | mhymn: ok, one second |
| 09:24.51 | enouf | mhymn: file /bin/ls says? |
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| 09:25.53 | mhymn | enouf: yes, should I paste the answer? |
| 09:26.14 | enouf | mhymn: it should be one line - right here is fine |
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| 09:27.59 | dA78 | uses someone the ipw2100 WLAN card with the driver from http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 09:28.06 | DEadPuNk- | ApOgEE-, i got this : mount: mount point /mnt/dev/hda3 does not exist |
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| 09:28.21 | enouf | !ipw2100 |
| 09:28.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, ipw2100 is a wireless driver for certain intel wireless cards: aptitude install ipw2100-modules-`uname -r` and then get the firmware from http://ipw2100.sf.net/ and drop that in /lib/firmware/ -- Also see #ipw2100 |
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| 09:28.26 | j1223 | How's the hfs support under Linux? is it trustable? |
| 09:28.43 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, create that folder |
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| 09:29.14 | j1223 | is it folks? |
| 09:29.29 | DEadPuNk- | ApOgEE-, which folder? |
| 09:29.31 | mhymn | enouf: THANX ;) |
| 09:29.44 | enouf | j1223: well, hfs is rw, hfs+ only ro, but i think someone i know says uses ntfs to share across the 3 |
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| 09:30.00 | enouf | mhymn: ? ;-) |
| 09:30.06 | j1223 | hmmm |
| 09:30.07 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, your mount point /mnt/dev/hda3 |
| 09:30.23 | j1223 | Well I got this 'elephant 250GB' drive |
| 09:30.27 | j1223 | and it's mounted as hfs |
| 09:30.33 | j1223 | I don't see any + in 'mount' |
| 09:30.46 | j1223 | should I go ahead and do the backup? |
| 09:30.52 | enouf | file -s /dev/sdaX |
| 09:30.53 | DEadPuNk- | well i want to mount the partition Hda1 and Hda2 |
| 09:31.26 | j1223 | it says data |
| 09:31.34 | enouf | ouch |
| 09:31.54 | j1223 | is that a ... |
| 09:31.58 | j1223 | nogo? |
| 09:32.00 | enouf | j1223: i really know nothing about hfs, hfs+ |
| 09:32.14 | marakesh2 | hi all. i'm trying to install wine on debian,but i get errors... |
| 09:32.16 | marakesh2 | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.9.57~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 09:32.16 | dpkg | That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster. |
| 09:32.24 | JeffH | I was talking to someone today that said that with gigabit ethernet you get better performance with cat 5e cables rather than cat 5 cables. Is that true? |
| 09:32.34 | marakesh2 | i'm pretty new to linux,so it could be something banal :D |
| 09:32.39 | marakesh2 | can anyone help? |
| 09:32.56 | j1223 | Hmmm... so best bet is ... booting up in Windows with MacDrive and doing the job? :P |
| 09:33.06 | enouf | JeffH: hrm, possible .. crap cables are a more likely failure/slow factor |
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| 09:33.09 | j1223 | The data IS sensative so, no room for experimentation |
| 09:33.11 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, for example, your partition is /dev/hda2 and your mount point /mnt/mypartition2 |
| 09:33.34 | j1223 | However something tells me it's allright to just cp -r ;/ |
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| 09:33.35 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, you have to create the folder /mnt/mypartition2 |
| 09:33.42 | JeffH | how does 18MB/s sound for a gigabit ethernet transfer? |
| 09:33.52 | DEadPuNk- | ok ApOgEE- ! |
| 09:33.52 | enouf | j1223: right, use tried and true, and research afterwards about other possible options |
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| 09:34.16 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, then mount using mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /mnt/mypartition2 |
| 09:34.32 | j1223 | Hmm, you know. I won't format the hdd. But I'll just try cp -r |
| 09:34.38 | enouf | j1223: udevinfo -q all -n /dev/sdaX |
| 09:35.15 | j1223 | hmm lots of stuff |
| 09:35.18 | JeffH | Is there anyway to have an entry in /etc/fstab for a samba share but not specify the password there? That doesn't seem very secure. |
| 09:35.29 | DEadPuNk- | ApOgEE-, done! thanx :D |
| 09:35.38 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, welcome |
| 09:35.39 | enouf | JeffH: yes, use keys |
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| 09:35.43 | j1223 | ID_FS_TYPE: hfsplus |
| 09:35.54 | enouf | erm, specific ID files, and such, one sec |
| 09:35.56 | JeffH | keys? |
| 09:36.07 | enouf | j1223: pastebin man |
| 09:36.13 | enouf | j1223: yiles |
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| 09:36.19 | enouf | hfsPLUS ;-) |
| 09:36.20 | valdyn | JeffH: you are using cifs right? |
| 09:36.20 | j1223 | :F |
| 09:36.25 | j1223 | Dayum |
| 09:36.26 | JeffH | valdyn: yes |
| 09:36.32 | j1223 | So wait is it really ro only? |
| 09:36.32 | valdyn | JeffH: and not smbfs, ok, sec |
| 09:36.34 | enouf | j1223: caught ya ;-) |
| 09:36.36 | j1223 | I just mounted as -rw |
| 09:36.43 | enouf | yep, should be |
| 09:36.46 | j1223 | and nobody told me "No!" |
| 09:36.47 | enouf | uh oh |
| 09:36.55 | j1223 | I didn't write anything :p |
| 09:36.57 | enouf | dunno |
| 09:36.57 | j1223 | :o |
| 09:37.06 | enouf | i doubt it would write then |
| 09:37.10 | j1223 | rly? |
| 09:37.11 | enouf | no matter what mount says |
| 09:37.12 | valdyn | JeffH: mount option is "credentialis=/path/to/file" |
| 09:37.16 | enouf | possible |
| 09:37.16 | valdyn | JeffH: mount option is "credentials=/path/to/file" |
| 09:37.16 | j1223 | Icee |
| 09:37.31 | j1223 | So, you linux boiz working on dem drivers still? :) |
| 09:37.36 | enouf | try touch /mnt/point/somefile |
| 09:37.42 | JeffH | valdyn: thanks. |
| 09:37.48 | j1223 | Wait a minute, Jobs should like/love Linux or something. Why doesn't he provide good drivers? |
| 09:37.48 | valdyn | JeffH: see the mount.cifs manpage |
| 09:38.05 | j1223 | He only likes *nix when it's behind MacOS? |
| 09:38.12 | j1223 | Making him the dough? |
| 09:38.27 | enouf | j1223: complain ;-) |
| 09:38.35 | ApOgEE- | ;) |
| 09:38.37 | j1223 | Damn :( |
| 09:38.50 | ApOgEE- | ... |
| 09:38.54 | JeffH | valdyn: thanks |
| 09:38.54 | j1223 | "Think different, only if it leads you to buy my stuff!" |
| 09:39.18 | marakesh2 | Unpacking wine (from .../wine_0.9.57~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb) ... |
| 09:39.18 | marakesh2 | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.9.57~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 09:39.18 | dpkg | That isn't an error, post the whole output to paster. |
| 09:39.20 | marakesh2 | anyone? |
| 09:39.30 | marakesh2 | what can be done? |
| 09:39.42 | valdyn | marakesh2: dpkg is right |
| 09:40.27 | enouf | !botsnack |
| 09:40.27 | dpkg | enouf: thanks |
| 09:40.51 | j1223 | enouf, how long have you had this nick? |
| 09:41.01 | enouf | awhile now, some years |
| 09:41.02 | marakesh2 | is right? :D what does that mean? |
| 09:41.03 | j1223 | For some reason it reminds of the 'king' in 'Zelda CDI' |
| 09:41.04 | DEadPuNk- | ApOgEE-, am running Debian4.0 and the package in my repos r a bit old! how to get new packages listed in the repos? |
| 09:41.17 | enouf | never heard of it ;-) |
| 09:41.20 | nepbabu | !stoned |
| 09:41.20 | dpkg | sits in a corner rocking singing "jingle bells, jingle bells" quietly to himself with an evil grin on his face... as he touches himself ever so slightly... http://stoned.is.dreaming.org |
| 09:41.28 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, sudo apt-get update |
| 09:41.44 | marakesh2 | ah,sorry |
| 09:41.46 | enouf | !gender |
| 09:41.46 | dpkg | I'm gay |
| 09:41.50 | valdyn | DEadPuNk-: thats the point of stable, or debian 4.0, you dont get new stuff |
| 09:41.52 | enouf | oh dear |
| 09:41.55 | marakesh2 | trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/wine/msacm32.drv.so', which is also in package libwine |
| 09:41.55 | marakesh2 | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 09:41.55 | marakesh2 | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 09:41.55 | marakesh2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:41.55 | marakesh2 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 09:42.08 | enouf | marakesh2: stop that |
| 09:42.08 | marakesh2 | damn |
| 09:42.16 | marakesh2 | sorry |
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| 09:42.26 | ApOgEE- | marakesh2, use pastebin.com |
| 09:42.27 | valdyn | marakesh2: maybe you read what you are going to paste first, |
| 09:42.38 | DEadPuNk- | valdyn, yup :) thanx |
| 09:42.48 | valdyn | marakesh2: and _then_ ask us what it means if you dont understand it |
| 09:42.59 | marakesh2 | well,i only dicovered linux a week ago,it's all klingon to me |
| 09:43.10 | marakesh2 | i'm trying to update wine in debian |
| 09:43.16 | valdyn | marakesh2: no you are not |
| 09:43.21 | marakesh2 | googled,ddn't help |
| 09:43.29 | marakesh2 | i mean,i tried,got the same error |
| 09:43.33 | marakesh2 | then i removed it |
| 09:43.37 | valdyn | marakesh2: you are trying to install a 3rd party .deb ( from winehq.com ) over your debian wine |
| 09:43.41 | DEadPuNk- | ApOgEE-, i added the repos of wine: but i got errors whiile apt-get update |
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| 09:43.51 | DEadPuNk- | Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) |
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| 09:44.01 | marakesh2 | yeah,bcs debian wine is old |
| 09:44.04 | marakesh2 | it crashes |
| 09:44.05 | DEadPuNk- | it my gzip too old? |
| 09:44.07 | ApOgEE- | DEadPuNk-, what is the error? |
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| 09:44.14 | JeffH | anyone here use Dirvish? |
| 09:44.24 | jamesxu | Hello, How can i install gcc 3.2 in debian? |
| 09:44.27 | enouf | marakesh2: see #winehq or consider upgrading |
| 09:44.36 | valdyn | marakesh2: the point is that its not an upgrade, but a different package, you need to remove all debian wine stuff first |
| 09:44.37 | DEadPuNk- | i paste it upwards |
| 09:44.41 | jamesxu | apt-cache search gcc, but the lowest version is gcc 3.3 |
| 09:44.50 | valdyn | marakesh2: "dpkg -l | grep wine", remove all that shows |
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| 09:44.57 | enouf | jamesxu: why 3.2? |
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| 09:45.01 | valdyn | marakesh2: once that is done, you can install winehq.com stuff |
| 09:45.05 | marakesh2 | ok |
| 09:45.17 | jamesxu | enouf, some lib was compiled with 3.2 |
| 09:45.21 | DEadPuNk- | wine in the debian repos is too old :( |
| 09:45.28 | j1223 | what is non-journaled read write? |
| 09:45.33 | j1223 | or journaled? |
| 09:45.35 | jamesxu | enouf, if i use 3.3 or higher, compile fail |
| 09:45.47 | enouf | jamesxu: do you know what to do with it if you do get it? |
| 09:45.48 | j1223 | what is the 'journal' in *nix filesystems? |
| 09:45.49 | valdyn | DEadPuNk-: so you want to generally stick to debian/stable and only get a new wine? |
| 09:46.00 | DEadPuNk- | yup valdyn |
| 09:46.09 | DEadPuNk- | only to get the new wine |
| 09:46.16 | enouf | j1223: see journalling FS in wikipedia ;-) |
| 09:46.23 | DEadPuNk- | i added the repos of wine |
| 09:46.44 | j1223 | Just 1 thing before that... does non-journal read/write mean like... bad? |
| 09:46.47 | jamesxu | enouf, I try to compile gcc 3.2 source code, but also fail |
| 09:47.00 | DEadPuNk- | but got an gzip error when updating the repos |
| 09:47.06 | jamesxu | enouf, now, my gcc is 4.1.3 |
| 09:47.09 | j1223 | like bad to the point of data corruption? |
| 09:47.12 | j1223 | or not at all? |
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| 09:47.27 | enouf | jamesxu: do you know what to do with it if you do get it? |
| 09:47.32 | marakesh2 | valdyn, i remove wine stuff with apt-get remove ic wine |
| 09:47.33 | valdyn | j1223: the point of a journal is to provide an undo feature if some transfer was incomplete |
| 09:47.35 | marakesh2 | for example? |
| 09:47.43 | j1223 | ahh I see |
| 09:47.50 | marakesh2 | or sudo apt-get....? |
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| 09:48.12 | j1223 | like remove the half arsed stuff that was written? |
| 09:48.14 | valdyn | j1223: so if your computer crashes during a write to disk, booting again the incomplete write will be undone instead of just remaining incomplete |
| 09:48.19 | jamesxu | enouf, Sorry, I don't know what you mean, do you mean if i install gcc 3.2.3, how shall i compile? |
| 09:48.28 | j1223 | ahh I see |
| 09:48.34 | j1223 | dealing with 'lost clusters' |
| 09:48.43 | enouf | j1223: see e2fsprogs.sf.net for an overview of ext2 and ext3 i guess |
| 09:48.46 | jamesxu | enouf, If i install gcc 3.2.3 successfully, I think i know how to use it to compile |
| 09:48.59 | enouf | jamesxu: do you know what to do with gcc 3.2 if you do get it? |
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| 09:49.14 | j1223 | ahh it's ok, knowing that is enough. |
| 09:49.23 | jamesxu | enouf, yes i do, i think |
| 09:49.36 | enouf | jamesxu: ok, then see if snapshot.debian.net has it available |
| 09:49.39 | j1223 | Apparently non-journaled read/write is possible for HFS+ under Linux |
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| 09:49.41 | valdyn | marakesh2: there'S various libwine* and wine* packages in the debian wine, while winehq.com provides everything in a single package |
| 09:49.51 | jamesxu | enouf, thanks |
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| 09:50.01 | j1223 | So if I can count on the power plant |
| 09:50.05 | enouf | j1223: better see what if anything hfsutils is up to |
| 09:50.06 | j1223 | and the wiring |
| 09:50.11 | marakesh2 | i have 2 packages showing with grep |
| 09:50.19 | j1223 | enouf, last news is from 2003 |
| 09:50.24 | j1223 | somebody over there is in a coma |
| 09:50.25 | marakesh2 | i don't know the command to remove them :D |
| 09:50.25 | enouf | right |
| 09:50.35 | enouf | hang jobs :-P |
| 09:50.38 | valdyn | marakesh2: aptitude remove <packagename> |
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| 09:51.45 | j1223 | all right, time for the boring face of Windows |
| 09:51.48 | j1223 | and MacDrive |
| 09:51.55 | j1223 | thanks a lot folks |
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| 09:54.21 | marakesh2 | did the trick! :) |
| 09:54.25 | marakesh2 | thx valdyn |
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| 09:59.32 | DEadPuNk- | can anyone tell me which repos to add ? |
| 09:59.48 | tralala | the official ones onlyh |
| 10:00.14 | DEadPuNk- | official only and stable one |
| 10:00.31 | tralala | yes |
| 10:00.38 | DEadPuNk- | anyone can give me the url to get the list of repos |
| 10:01.18 | tralala | DEadPuNk-, www.debian.org |
| 10:01.35 | valdyn | DEadPuNk-: there's no such list, unsupported 3rd party repos are totally indenependent and totally unsupported by debian |
| 10:02.01 | DEadPuNk- | well i would like to add the repos of south africa |
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| 10:02.10 | rahsputin | good morning everybody!! I do not have a mouse and would like to use the mouse at some time with the NUM Pad arrows , all work "good" except for the speed, any way to speed it up ? |
| 10:02.15 | tralala | valdyn, he probably means mirrors |
| 10:02.16 | Hyphenex | Hey, I'm trying to install a piece of software, and it says I need Java 1.6.0 or better, how do I tell if I have that? |
| 10:02.37 | valdyn | DEadPuNk-: probably ftp.sa.debian.org |
| 10:02.56 | valdyn | DEadPuNk-: its ftp.<cc>.debian.org ( cc = country code ) |
| 10:03.18 | tralala | sa is Saudi Arabia |
| 10:03.20 | DEadPuNk- | can u give me the exact format ? plz :/ |
| 10:03.28 | valdyn | !sources.list |
| 10:03.28 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 10:03.29 | fengor | wasnt za south africa? |
| 10:03.43 | valdyn | ah, yea |
| 10:04.22 | valdyn | oh well, neither ftp.sa nor za exist anyway |
| 10:04.35 | valdyn | DEadPuNk-: debian.org has a mirror list |
| 10:04.43 | DEadPuNk- | cant find the list on debian.org :/ |
| 10:04.49 | tralala | !mirrors |
| 10:04.49 | dpkg | debian mirrors is probably http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 10:04.54 | DEadPuNk- | its found in which section on the sit web |
| 10:05.13 | tralala | DEadPuNk-, if you cant navigate through a web site how do you expect to use a linux system? |
| 10:05.15 | Hyphenex | damn, apt-cache search shows sun-java5-jre, Java 1.6 is the sun-java6-jre right? |
| 10:05.25 | DEadPuNk- | lol |
| 10:05.35 | valdyn | Hyphenex: yes |
| 10:05.49 | Hyphenex | valdyn: can I get Java 1.6 with apt-get? |
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| 10:06.45 | valdyn | Hyphenex: its in testing and unstable |
| 10:07.05 | valdyn | Hyphenex: those package will probably work in etch as they are, see http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 10:07.44 | Hyphenex | valdyn: what do you mean? will work in etch as they are? how do I get the unstable versions and install them? |
| 10:08.02 | valdyn | Hyphenex: by looking at http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 10:09.01 | Hyphenex | valdyn: search returned no results |
| 10:09.30 | valdyn | Hyphenex: is that website search form to complex for you? |
| 10:09.37 | rahsputin | i think should write it out a bit better: ok, i use the NUM Pad to move my Mouse Arrow, and i would like to speed it up cause it is really really slow |
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| 10:09.52 | Hyphenex | valdyn: hmm, maybe you should try typing in java6 :P |
| 10:09.56 | Hyphenex | no results |
| 10:10.12 | valdyn | Hyphenex: yea, i wouldnt type that |
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| 10:10.34 | Hyphenex | valdyn: oahh, there in the unstable :) |
| 10:10.42 | Hyphenex | so do I just have to add unstable to my sources.lst now? |
| 10:10.53 | valdyn | Hyphenex: download the package, install it |
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| 10:11.21 | Hyphenex | valdyn: backports, lenny or sid? |
| 10:11.22 | valdyn | Hyphenex: you may want to check dependencies manually |
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| 10:11.30 | valdyn | hark: its just 4 of them |
| 10:11.36 | valdyn | Hyphenex: its just 4 of them |
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| 10:12.15 | Hyphenex | I'm going to try lenny :) |
| 10:14.29 | Hyphenex | or wait |
| 10:14.34 | Hyphenex | I want etch, don't I? |
| 10:14.36 | Hyphenex | but it's not listed |
| 10:15.00 | DEadPuNk- | am using nano to edit the sources.list.... but who to use kwrite to edit the sources.list.. try in root terminal : KWrite /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:15.06 | DEadPuNk- | but didnt work |
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| 10:15.58 | lkthomas2 | hey guys |
| 10:16.04 | lkthomas2 | I am trying to setup ipsec server on debian |
| 10:16.11 | lkthomas2 | but I can't start ipsec daemon |
| 10:16.23 | lkthomas2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.28 | lkthomas2 | anyone have idea why ? |
| 10:21.22 | Hyphenex | damn :( W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirror.pacific.net.au etch-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.pacific.net.au_linux_debian-backports_dists_etch-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
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| 10:25.53 | morenita | hello, im trying to set Alt+Shift as a shortcut for switching keyboards instead of the default Ctrl+Alt+K, but i get Alt+ISO_NEXT_GROUP. With xmodmap i cant see anything like that apart from the shift lock and modifiers... what can i do? |
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| 10:27.16 | Whisky_ | Im using VMware to install debian and ive set Vmware to NAT so it uses my host PC's IP but while configuring APT, the installation is stuck. |
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| 10:32.03 | mhymn | morenita: hi, would be a better idea to join the KDE channel :-) |
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| 10:32.46 | morenita | mhymn thnx :) |
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| 10:36.12 | Techdeck | Hey, does anyone something that can download files like download accelerator in windows? (command line) |
| 10:36.15 | Techdeck | can curl do it? |
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| 10:37.01 | wols | or wget |
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| 10:37.52 | mhymn | Techdeck: I know a 3d party program which name is 'Multiget', here: multiget.sourceforge.net |
| 10:38.06 | Techdeck | mhymn, thank you! |
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| 10:40.17 | Techdeck | oh mhymn, it seems it's not a commandline utility, I need a commandline one |
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| 10:41.44 | mhymn | Techdeck: did you test 'wget' too? |
| 10:42.19 | Techdeck | can wget do "multi" getting? |
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| 10:43.58 | mhymn | Techdeck: I don't think so, I don't use that anymore! |
| 10:44.18 | Techdeck | :( |
| 10:44.38 | Techdeck | thanks anyway |
| 10:44.41 | gregory | Techdeck: you could start 100s of them via wget url & |
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| 10:44.51 | AlexC_ | hey |
| 10:45.11 | Techdeck | gregory, that's real funny |
| 10:45.14 | AlexC_ | I'm trying to install `ibapache2-mod-fastcgi` however I get the following error: E: Package libapache2-mod-fastcgi has no installation candidate |
| 10:45.30 | AlexC_ | er, libapache2 - typo =) |
| 10:45.45 | gregory | Techdeck: so i guess i misunderstood something, sorry |
| 10:46.20 | Techdeck | gregory, by multi getting I mean it will download the same file, in (for instance) 7 different streams, each streams downloads a different part of the file, in the end it connects them all |
| 10:46.34 | gregory | Techdeck: something like torrent? |
| 10:46.55 | hark | Techdeck: aria2 |
| 10:47.08 | Techdeck | gregory, not quite |
| 10:47.15 | Techdeck | gregory, for HTTP downloading |
| 10:47.21 | Techdeck | hark, thanks, I'll look into it |
| 10:48.02 | Techdeck | w00t, that's it! thanks hark! |
| 10:48.34 | Techdeck | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:48.35 | Techdeck | heh, great |
| 10:48.40 | gregory | how does one start that thing? |
| 10:48.54 | Whisky_ | im trying to get debian work with my wireless network connection on VMWARE. What kind of connection should I choose, NAT, BRIDGED etc. ? |
| 10:49.13 | Techdeck | gregory, I'd tell you if I could install it :p |
| 10:49.24 | Techdeck | Whisky_, bridged I think |
| 10:50.04 | Techdeck | gregory, aria2c |
| 10:50.23 | gregory | Techdeck: thx |
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| 10:50.35 | Techdeck | aria2c -s 7 http://AAA.BBB.CCC/file.zip |
| 10:50.36 | Techdeck | for instance |
| 10:50.41 | Techdeck | that'll download it with 7 streams |
| 10:50.52 | lkthomas2 | does anyone setup ipsec before ? |
| 10:51.07 | wols | !tell lkthomas2 about anyone |
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| 10:51.30 | ddalton | How do I change my hostname? |
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| 10:51.39 | gregory | Techdeck: well, you just pointed my to the tool of the day ;-) |
| 10:51.45 | wols | !tell ddalton about hostname |
| 10:51.58 | Whisky_ | Techdeck, thanks :) |
| 10:52.42 | Techdeck | gregory yay :) |
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| 10:53.24 | mhymn | ddalton: type 'hostname newhost' ;-) |
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| 10:53.40 | Maulkin | safsdafsda: Then update /etc/hostname |
| 10:53.44 | Maulkin | er... ddalton |
| 10:54.15 | Techdeck | seems it's limited to 2 connections only though |
| 10:54.20 | AlexC_ | I'm trying to install `libapache2-mod-fastcgi` however I get the following error: E: Package libapache2-mod-fastcgi has no installation candidate - how can I resolve it? |
| 10:54.33 | Maulkin | Under etch? |
| 10:54.48 | AlexC_ | Maulkin, if that was to me, yes |
| 10:54.53 | Maulkin | AlexC_: apt-get update |
| 10:55.00 | AlexC_ | Maulkin, have done many times |
| 10:55.15 | wols | !info libapache-mod-fastcgi2 etch |
| 10:55.36 | Maulkin | AlexC_: ok. Can you pastebin your sources.list, and the full output of 'apt-get install libapache2-mod-fastcgi' please? |
| 10:55.43 | AlexC_ | Maulkin, sure |
| 10:56.01 | wols | !info libapache2-mod-fastcgi etch |
| 10:56.03 | dpkg | libapache2-mod-fastcgi: (Apache 2 FastCGI module for long-running CGI scripts), section non-free/web, is optional. Version: 2.4.2-8 (etch), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 196 kB |
| 10:56.06 | wols | see the non-free? |
| 10:56.09 | Maulkin | nods |
| 10:56.19 | Maulkin | I'm thinking that's the issue :P |
| 10:56.36 | AlexC_ | Maulkin, http://paste2.org/p/16801 |
| 10:57.25 | Maulkin | AlexC_: yup, there's the issue, you need to add non-free sources to your sources.list |
| 10:57.28 | Maulkin | !non-free |
| 10:57.28 | dpkg | non-free is probably a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 10:57.42 | Maulkin | AlexC_: /msg dpkg non-free sources> |
| 10:57.48 | Maulkin | errr |
| 10:57.50 | Maulkin | AlexC_: /msg dpkg non-free sources |
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| 10:58.33 | shingouz | could someone do a quick check to see if www.hotpop.com is actually up? i suspect that my isp is blocking that and a few other sites |
| 10:59.13 | Deezire | It's up |
| 10:59.25 | shingouz | thanks. time fo another screaming session :) |
| 10:59.28 | Deezire | Why would your ISP block that? |
| 10:59.40 | AlexC_ | Maulkin, excellent, thanks |
| 10:59.42 | shingouz | no idea but they have had some strange issues lately |
| 11:00.08 | Whisky_ | i just installed debian on my vmware virtual system |
| 11:00.16 | Whisky_ | how do i check if i have internet connectivity on it? |
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| 11:00.20 | Deezire | shingouz: Tried changiing dns-servers? |
| 11:00.41 | Deezire | www.opendns.org |
| 11:00.43 | Maulkin | Whisky_: ping www.google.com |
| 11:00.50 | shingouz | Deezire: yes, i am running opendns already |
| 11:00.56 | Whisky_ | yes it works :D |
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| 11:01.04 | Deezire | are you sure opendns does not bug? |
| 11:01.10 | Whisky_ | i didnt configure apt |
| 11:01.14 | Whisky_ | how do i configure it now ? |
| 11:01.34 | lkthomas2 | how come pptpd is so easy to setup while ipsec is so hard ? |
| 11:01.38 | Deezire | apt is installed even without standard system, so how did you do that? |
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| 11:01.54 | Deezire | lkthomas2: pptp is Microsoft ;) |
| 11:02.07 | Whisky_ | Deezire, i didnt CONFIGURE it for the mirrors :( |
| 11:02.13 | shingouz | Deezire: i have tried a few other dns'es but it just resolves, no connection. i also have problems with most debian.org mirrors |
| 11:02.24 | Deezire | Whisky_: nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 11:02.41 | lkthomas2 | Deezire: it took me 3mins to setup pptp |
| 11:02.43 | Deezire | shingouz: weird, time to change isp i recon :p |
| 11:02.45 | lkthomas2 | and ipsec just pain in the ass |
| 11:02.53 | Deezire | lkthomas2: Yeah, try openvpn... |
| 11:03.05 | Whisky_ | where do i get the sources URL's? :( |
| 11:03.10 | shingouz | grr... looks like easter means my isp closes all support lines until tomorrow. nice. really begins to sound like another isp for me |
| 11:03.11 | Deezire | Whisky_: google. |
| 11:03.34 | Tapout | usually how long does it take for backports to update a package? Postgresql 8.3 has a 8.3.1 release and the topic in the channel is UPGRADE ASAP! |
| 11:03.35 | lkthomas2 | WOO |
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| 11:03.41 | Deezire | !tell Whisky_ sources.list |
| 11:03.44 | lkthomas2 | Deezire: GUI INTERFACE?! wwooo! |
| 11:04.08 | Deezire | lkthomas2: openvpn has gui for wintendo, if you want, but it's a hassle to setup. |
| 11:04.30 | shingouz | Deezire: the problems begun when they "upgraded" my 10 up 10 down connection to a "nice" 24/2 adsl without my permission. now nothing works even after over a month of configuring and yelling. sonera rocks...NOT |
| 11:04.32 | lkthomas2 | Deezire: is it hard to setup on server side ? |
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| 11:04.42 | Whisky_ | !tell Whisky_ sources.list |
| 11:04.42 | Whisky_ | no message from dpkg :/ |
| 11:04.52 | Deezire | lkthomas2: Mediocre. |
| 11:04.56 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.00 | lkthomas2 | Deezire: sorry ? |
| 11:05.17 | Deezire | Above avarage hard. |
| 11:05.21 | lkthomas2 | hmm |
| 11:05.35 | wols | Deezire: what's hardwa bout it? |
| 11:05.35 | Deezire | But NSA-style secure. |
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| 11:06.01 | Deezire | wols: No actually hard, more stuff to configure. :p |
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| 11:07.57 | lkthomas2 | Deezire: if I want to allow anyone to connect vpn to my openvpn server, what should I use ? |
| 11:08.09 | Deezire | Not openvpn. |
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| 11:08.28 | Deezire | apt-cache search proxy, should do the trick! |
| 11:08.34 | wols | a vpn can't work there. you always need a cert for vpn |
| 11:09.51 | lkthomas2 | huh |
| 11:09.54 | lkthomas2 | hand on now |
| 11:09.56 | lkthomas2 | hang* |
| 11:10.07 | lkthomas2 | openvpn is using pptp or L2TP over ipsec ? |
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| 11:13.38 | Airbottle | hey, i would like to know if the problem in debian lenny (testing) with ssl-cert is solved. i tried to install debian lenny, but i got the problem that my pc hanged at configuring ssl-cert. |
| 11:13.59 | Airbottle | (that was about 3 weeks ago |
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| 11:19.09 | wols | Airbottle: it didn't hang |
| 11:19.19 | wols | Airbottle: you didn't have enough real entropy |
| 11:20.35 | PleXuS | what kernel do you need to use when you are using Dual Core cpu? |
| 11:20.41 | PleXuS | 686 ? |
| 11:20.51 | wols | yes |
| 11:21.14 | Airbottle | tried typing in terminal, and moving mouse, even after 10 minutes, i got no response... |
| 11:21.26 | PleXuS | changing from P3 to Dual Core motherboard+cpu+ddr2 .. i hope debian still works :-) |
| 11:21.38 | PleXuS | P3=Pentium3 |
| 11:21.46 | wols | PleXuS: it will. depenidng if your hdd and eth controllers are supported |
| 11:21.51 | wols | what kernel and what new mobo? |
| 11:22.15 | PleXuS | the latest stable on there is |
| 11:22.23 | wols | and what mobo? |
| 11:22.29 | PleXuS | Asus intel chipset 945 motherboard |
| 11:22.37 | wols | should work |
| 11:22.47 | PleXuS | intel gigabit lan onboard andso |
| 11:22.59 | PleXuS | i hope the onboard video chip also works :) |
| 11:23.22 | wols | it will |
| 11:23.33 | wols | intel i810 driver |
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| 11:24.27 | PleXuS | do they also work for Intel GMA950 ? |
| 11:24.39 | bohsain | what packages/tools i need to use WiFi in lenny/ |
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| 11:24.57 | wols | bohsain: depends on your wlan chipset |
| 11:25.04 | wols | PleXuS: yes |
| 11:25.33 | bohsain | wols: i use toshiba satellite a200, the wifi was working in ubuntu ... |
| 11:25.52 | wols | bohsain: that doesn't tell anyone what chipset it is |
| 11:26.16 | bohsain | wols: how can i know what is it? |
| 11:26.31 | PleXuS | wols: thanks for the information.. gonna change the hardware later this day.. need to go now :) |
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| 11:27.15 | DustyBin | can coding make you go grey and bald? |
| 11:27.19 | wols | !tell bohsain about what's my hardware |
| 11:27.27 | wols | Deezire: in less than a day |
| 11:27.52 | wols | with php, about half a day tops |
| 11:28.00 | Deezire | huh? |
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| 11:28.03 | Whisky_ | how do I install Xfce on my debian package? |
| 11:28.05 | Deezire | Aah. |
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| 11:28.24 | wols | Whisky_: like any other package |
| 11:28.56 | Whisky_ | wols, Im new to debian. Just installed the core system. havent even installed the Desktop package. |
| 11:29.07 | Whisky_ | apt-get install xfce says no package found |
| 11:29.09 | wols | !tell Whisky_ about grounding |
| 11:29.18 | wols | !tell Whisky_ about search |
| 11:30.08 | Whisky_ | I have no clue wols :S |
| 11:30.17 | wols | then read |
| 11:30.18 | DustyBin | if i wanted to enable sub-pixel hinting in freetype on debian etch, would i need to remove the existing freetype package, and re-compile it myself? |
| 11:30.29 | Airbottle | i think its xfce4 Whisky_ |
| 11:30.37 | wols | DustyBin: long time sinec I did that but afaik no |
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| 11:31.07 | Whisky_ | Airbottle, No package found. How do I search the packages i have in my list ? |
| 11:31.10 | wols | Whisky_: don't forget to install xorg |
| 11:31.20 | wols | Whisky_: dpkg just told you. READ! |
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| 11:31.39 | Hyphenex | I'm getting an error message when trying to run apt-get update... problem is it's asking me to run apt-get update :P |
| 11:31.40 | Hyphenex | W: GPG error: http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C |
| 11:31.40 | Hyphenex | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 11:31.55 | wols | Hyphenex: read backports.org instructions |
| 11:31.59 | shingouz | Whisky_: xfce4 :) |
| 11:32.21 | Whisky_ | wols, ok sorry :) |
| 11:32.43 | DustyBin | debian etch font rendering as it is, isnt impressive at all, i dont know how anyone puts up with it, if you use a LCD display you really do need sub-pixel hinting |
| 11:32.48 | Whisky_ | shingouz, No package found. Neither was xorg found. I believe I dont have any sources in my sources.list but I don't know where to get a good list. |
| 11:33.02 | wols | !tell Whisky_ about sources.list |
| 11:33.09 | shingouz | Whisky_: man apt-cache |
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| 11:33.25 | wols | shingouz: that won't help him with an empty sources.list |
| 11:33.47 | Hyphenex | wols: That's the page I'm using... I'm stuck at #2 |
| 11:33.53 | shingouz | wols: true... but how the hell did he install with an empty list is beyond me |
| 11:34.18 | wols | Hyphenex: read the FULL PAGE |
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| 11:34.25 | wols | shingouz: very easy to do |
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| 11:34.49 | shingouz | ok |
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| 11:35.18 | row | How can I deactivate a usb harddisk so it powers down and such once a backup script has finished running? |
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| 11:36.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | row, is the power connected to something the computer controls? |
| 11:37.45 | bohsain | how can i use WiFi in lenny with my Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG card? |
| 11:38.11 | wols | !tell bohsain about ipw4965 |
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| 11:45.38 | row | Kamping_Kaiser: when you remove/eject hardware in windows the hdd light goes off on this external hdd |
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| 11:45.46 | row | I want that to happen so user knows he can now unplug it |
| 11:46.47 | DustyBin | "...you might as well skip the Xmas celebration completely, and instead sit in front of your linux computer playing with the all-new-and-improved linux kernel version." -- Linus Torvalds |
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| 11:47.32 | cloakable | DustyBin: Sorry, already did that ;) |
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| 11:51.49 | Whisky_ | how do I install the base desktop on debian? What packages do I need? |
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| 11:53.38 | cloakable | Whisky_: Which base desktop? :) |
| 11:54.02 | Whisky_ | cloakable, While installing Debian i had the option for the base desktop which I unchecked. That one =) |
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| 11:54.42 | mquin | try 'gnome-desktop-environment' |
| 11:54.58 | cloakable | Or kde-desktop-enviroment |
| 11:55.10 | cloakable | Or xfce-desktop-enviroment :P |
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| 11:57.14 | Whisky_ | through apt-get install? |
| 11:57.33 | mquin | yep |
| 11:57.48 | Whisky_ | i did |
| 11:57.56 | Whisky_ | no matter what package i say it says it cannot find it |
| 11:57.57 | Whisky_ | :( |
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| 11:58.44 | cloakable | Whisky_: Try gnome-desktop :) |
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| 11:58.55 | cloakable | That's the one I never use :) |
| 12:00.18 | Whisky_ | same, couldnt find :( |
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| 12:02.38 | lunaphyte_ | what is the linux equivalent to freebsd's watch? |
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| 12:03.08 | bertvdp | hi, I want to know if this is possible and how: computer A has internet, computer B hasn't, can computer B get internet through A via USB ? |
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| 12:06.58 | valdyn | bertvdp: sure |
| 12:07.01 | valdyn | !usbnet |
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| 12:07.52 | bertvdp | !usbnet doesn't exist aparantly |
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| 12:09.01 | Fujiosan | how to install debian on windows plese |
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| 12:13.09 | from_downunde1 | Fujiosan: cygwin will give a linux like experience on windows. Debian can be run on a machine that has windows, as a dual boot machine |
| 12:13.21 | Fujiosan | what about andLinux? |
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| 12:13.45 | Fujiosan | i mean debiand |
| 12:13.49 | Fujiosan | via andLinux |
| 12:13.59 | Whisky_ | no matter what package i try to install, apt tells me it couldnt find it :( |
| 12:14.17 | from_downunde1 | Dunno. There goes my theories on how it all works :) |
| 12:14.29 | from_downunde1 | Whisky, what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 12:14.53 | Fujiosan | so is ubutonta also debiand? |
| 12:15.57 | Fujiosan | has debian have the live cd for me to trie? |
| 12:16.21 | wols | Fujiosan: no |
| 12:16.35 | wols | ubuntu is NOT debian, it's only based on debian like many others |
| 12:16.41 | Whisky_ | from_downunde1, http://i28.tinypic.com/2rf9g75.jpg |
| 12:16.45 | mquin | Fujiosan: http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 12:16.54 | Fujiosan | ty |
| 12:16.56 | from_downunde1 | relationship between debain and ubunto : http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian |
| 12:17.04 | wols | mquin: that is not yet released and at most beta. don't tell new people about it |
| 12:17.29 | hoxu | !start a distro war |
| 12:17.30 | dpkg | Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'. |
| 12:18.02 | Fujiosan | lol |
| 12:18.07 | mquin | wols: it's top google hit on 'debian live cd', I'm hardly breaking a secret by mentioning it in here |
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| 12:18.21 | cahoot | hehe |
| 12:18.34 | Fujiosan | wols its ok i am not that new |
| 12:18.45 | Whisky_ | from_downunde1, help :o |
| 12:18.46 | wols | Fujiosan: your questions say otherwise |
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| 12:18.54 | Fujiosan | wols i have been a long time people |
| 12:18.57 | from_downunde1 | whisky ... looking |
| 12:19.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | from_downunde1, gday :) |
| 12:19.05 | Fujiosan | ask my mom wols |
| 12:19.08 | Fujiosan | i am not new |
| 12:19.09 | valdyn | Whisky_: you do not have any sources in your sources.list that provide alot of packages |
| 12:19.17 | valdyn | Whisky_: you only have security and the netinstall there |
| 12:19.29 | Whisky_ | i want sources that can give me every darn package on the planet :D |
| 12:19.37 | valdyn | !sources.list |
| 12:19.37 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 12:19.41 | RepairMaster | how can i install grub ? |
| 12:19.58 | valdyn | Whisky_: and non-US is pointless |
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| 12:20.07 | wols | RepairMaster: grub-install |
| 12:20.17 | RepairMaster | aha , thanks |
| 12:20.27 | wols | valdyn: I already gave him that factoid long ago. he likes to ignore it |
| 12:20.31 | Whisky_ | valdyn, I dont get a word of what dpkg is saying....where do i get the sources.list lines? |
| 12:20.42 | wols | Whisky_: right there in the factoid |
| 12:20.42 | valdyn | Whisky_: from what dpkg said |
| 12:21.07 | SzArAk | RepairMaster: you just have to run it once. after changes in config files it update by it self |
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| 12:21.29 | valdyn | Whisky_: pay a consultant if reading is to hard. Or ask a specific question on what you do not understand. |
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| 12:21.38 | Whisky_ | also see MIRRORS |
| 12:21.40 | Whisky_ | that :) |
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| 12:21.58 | allix | hello |
| 12:21.59 | valdyn | Whisky_: that means you can "/msg dpkg mirrors" |
| 12:21.59 | wols | !tell Whisky_ about mirrors |
| 12:22.10 | allix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:22.18 | allix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:22.35 | Whisky_ | okay thanks, looking |
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| 12:35.16 | DustyBin | how do i activate acpi power saving on debian etch ? |
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| 12:35.37 | DustyBin | thinks about the environment |
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| 12:36.25 | adp_1 | hi |
| 12:36.49 | adp_1 | I tried using the map_static option in /etc/exports but the nfs daemon in debian doesn't recognize it |
| 12:36.58 | adp_1 | is there an alternative for uid mapping in nfs on debian? |
| 12:37.10 | DEadPuNk- | helloo! which best player to play dvd ?? |
| 12:37.25 | DEadPuNk- | something that can play most DVD |
| 12:37.28 | SzArAk | DEadPuNk-: any. mplayer, totem, xine |
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| 12:37.36 | SzArAk | all of them play all dvd's |
| 12:37.42 | DEadPuNk- | i need codec? |
| 12:37.42 | DEadPuNk- | :) |
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| 12:37.52 | linuxfreak | hi folks |
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| 12:38.00 | DEadPuNk- | which one ine needed to play most dvd |
| 12:38.18 | SzArAk | xine can display dvd menu, afaik mplayer can't |
| 12:38.50 | DEadPuNk- | dont need to install anything else? |
| 12:39.29 | SzArAk | just install the program, for instance apt-get install mplayer |
| 12:39.52 | DEadPuNk- | ok vlc also works fine? |
| 12:39.58 | SzArAk | yes ;p |
| 12:40.05 | DEadPuNk- | :) thanx |
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| 12:42.39 | Ace2016_ | Hi all |
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| 12:43.28 | Ace2016_ | i need help with wicd, network > hidden network, then typed in my ssid, and nothing happened |
| 12:43.34 | Nik0la0s | is gOS the same as ubuntu and debian? |
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| 12:44.24 | ApOgEE- | shutting down!! |
| 12:44.24 | Eulex | Nik0la0s, something that is not debian is not debian :) |
| 12:44.43 | Nik0la0s | but both gOS and ubuntu are debian based |
| 12:44.49 | Ace2016_ | so anyone here use wicd? |
| 12:45.01 | Eulex | sure, but they're not debian, nor the same as debian |
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| 12:45.20 | Ace2016_ | gOS is based on ubuntu |
| 12:45.22 | Nik0la0s | what makes the difference? |
| 12:45.25 | Nik0la0s | the ocre its the smae |
| 12:45.31 | Eulex | no |
| 12:45.42 | Nik0la0s | no? |
| 12:45.52 | abrotman | they're also OT in here |
| 12:45.54 | Nik0la0s | what the difference betwween debian and ubuntu thenm? |
| 12:46.03 | wols | Nik0la0s: also OT |
| 12:46.11 | Nik0la0s | whats OT ? |
| 12:46.15 | wols | !ot |
| 12:46.15 | dpkg | i heard ot is Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support), or return to the topic after a short while. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 12:46.42 | Eulex | Nik0la0s, ubuntu takes stuff from debian, changes it, and releases it as ubuntu. note the 'changes it' part. |
| 12:46.43 | DEadPuNk- | when i insert a dvd : it doesnt mount automatically! |
| 12:46.49 | DEadPuNk- | where the prob? |
| 12:47.13 | Eulex | DEadPuNk-, well, have you got an automounter? |
| 12:47.14 | wols | DEadPuNk-: not enough info |
| 12:47.21 | DEadPuNk- | nope Eulex |
| 12:47.29 | Nik0la0s | so ubuntu "stealing stuff" from debian |
| 12:47.34 | Nik0la0s | and then alter it? |
| 12:47.49 | Eulex | DEadPuNk-, how do you then expect it to be automatically mounted then? something must do the mounting. |
| 12:47.50 | DustyBin | no such thing as 'stealing' in the GPL world |
| 12:48.01 | Eulex | Nik0la0s, except that they don't steal; the license permits it |
| 12:48.11 | Nik0la0s | how you mean then they alter it? |
| 12:48.13 | DEadPuNk- | before it was mounted automatically and not it crashes |
| 12:48.18 | from_downunde1 | Welcome to the GPL. I'ts not sealing. Providing they let (man + dog) know what changes they have made, then they are allowed to |
| 12:48.20 | wols | Nik0la0s: you are OTG |
| 12:48.23 | Nik0la0s | i mean they take soemthign that works and what they do with it? |
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| 12:48.29 | wols | -G |
| 12:48.36 | Eulex | Nik0la0s, whatever they want? |
| 12:48.45 | wols | Nik0la0s: don't ask us we don't alter it. ask someone else |
| 12:48.51 | Whisky_ | xfce4 is setup |
| 12:48.52 | wols | e.g the ones who do alter it |
| 12:48.54 | Nik0la0s | so one cant expect same stability with ubuntu or gOS as with debian? |
| 12:48.55 | Whisky_ | now how do I run it :| |
| 12:49.03 | Eulex | Nik0la0s, no. |
| 12:49.05 | wols | Whisky_: have you installed xorg? |
| 12:49.21 | Whisky_ | doing now |
| 12:49.24 | Whisky_ | what does Xorg do? |
| 12:49.29 | Eulex | Nik0la0s, also, note that ubuntu pulls packages from _unstable_ and releases it as _stable_ |
| 12:49.38 | yacc | Hmm, what package provides the current i810 X11 server in lenny? |
| 12:50.10 | Eulex | yacc, eh, xserver-xorg, just as for all other graphics cards? |
| 12:50.26 | Nik0la0s | so you advise me to install debian instead of ubuntu and gOS? |
| 12:50.45 | Eulex | Nik0la0s, well, would you expect anything else in #debian? :) |
| 12:50.50 | wols | Nik0la0s: take a long, hard look at the channel's name you're in |
| 12:50.52 | Nik0la0s | :) |
| 12:51.15 | Nik0la0s | somoen etol me that ubuntu is debian with more ease and fancy stuff |
| 12:51.17 | wols | Eulex: xserver-xorg doesn't provide any videodrivers |
| 12:51.19 | yacc | Well, when I do an apt-get install xerver-xorg, it wants to deinstall xserver-xorg-video-i810 without offering anything with i810 in the name as a replacement. |
| 12:51.21 | Nik0la0s | and it is exacltly the smae |
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| 12:51.30 | Eulex | wols, right, he was asking for the server |
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| 12:51.44 | DEadPuNk- | Eulex, ok how to install the automount? |
| 12:51.47 | stew | Nik0la0s: ubuntu is off-topic. if you want to discuss ubuntu, go to #ubuntu, if you want to compare various distros, perhaps try ##linux |
| 12:51.56 | DustyBin | i run a small home server: postfix, mythtv, zoneminder, heyu all on the same box, is it possible to put the machine to sleep if there is no activity with ACPI ? |
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| 12:52.03 | Eulex | DEadPuNk-, what desktop environment are you running? |
| 12:52.08 | stew | DEadPuNk-: /msg dpkg automount |
| 12:52.09 | DEadPuNk- | KDE |
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| 12:52.17 | [gnubie] | hello all.. |
| 12:52.19 | pobega | Hello #debian -- Without going all the way and installing k3b, what is a good CD burning program (GUI is options) to create audio CDs? |
| 12:52.33 | Eulex | DEadPuNk-, sorry, no idea then, but kde should surely have some automounter daemon |
| 12:52.38 | [gnubie] | is there any way i can install firefox on debian etch? |
| 12:52.49 | abrotman | [gnubie]: iceweasel |
| 12:52.50 | stew | [gnubie]: /msg dpkg iceweasel |
| 12:52.51 | wols | !tell Gnurdux about iceweasel |
| 12:52.56 | Eulex | [gnubie], yes, you install iceweasel. they're the same. |
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| 12:53.02 | DEadPuNk- | ok Eulex thanx :) |
| 12:53.04 | yacc | Eulex: so I'm slightly wary of allowing that upgrade when I might end up without a video driver ;( |
| 12:53.10 | [gnubie] | abrotman: yes, i know about iceweasel |
| 12:53.24 | SzArAk | [gnubie]: so what's the problem? |
| 12:53.27 | abrotman | [gnubie]: if you want mozilla firefox .. ask them, not us |
| 12:53.39 | yacc | Ok, it's video-intel now :) |
| 12:53.59 | [gnubie] | everytime i access my webmail hosted by google apps, it doesn't recognize iceweasel |
| 12:54.04 | yacc | [gnubie]: you download the tar.bz2, unpack it, and run it. |
| 12:54.12 | Eulex | yacc, -i810 is deprecated, use -intel |
| 12:54.27 | yacc | [gnubie]: gmail.com recognizes iceweasel2 fine. |
| 12:54.33 | abrotman | [gnubie]: i use epiphany with mail.google and it works fine |
| 12:54.52 | [gnubie] | so, there's no .deb package for firefox already |
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| 12:55.01 | yacc | Eulex: do I need to change my driver setting in XFConfig-4 too? |
| 12:55.03 | abrotman | you'd have to ask them |
| 12:55.15 | Eulex | yacc, I'm not sure. I'd do it. |
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| 12:55.25 | [gnubie] | gmail.com works but google apps always informs me that it's not supported |
| 12:55.32 | [gnubie] | ok |
| 12:55.45 | Eulex | [gnubie], you can change the useragent sent by the browser |
| 12:56.02 | [gnubie] | Eulex: how? |
| 12:56.23 | Eulex | [gnubie], google it. it's somewhere in about:config, I don't remember exactly where. |
| 12:56.31 | wols | uagent switcher |
| 12:56.34 | wols | it'S an extension |
| 12:56.39 | Eulex | or that |
| 12:56.43 | [gnubie] | Eulex: ok. thanks. |
| 12:56.49 | Eulex | but a full extension is a little overkill, imho |
| 12:56.54 | yacc | Eulex: X :2 comes up, now how can I check if I have "hardware" GL? |
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| 12:57.04 | Eulex | yacc, glxinfo|grep direct |
| 12:57.12 | CharminTheMoose | i'm trying to install acpid on debian testing and when i try and install it I get: acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy. anyone know why /proc/acpi/event is busy? |
| 12:57.31 | wols | CharminTheMoose: maybe something else has it open already? |
| 12:57.50 | TuxCrafter | hi guys |
| 12:58.24 | TuxCrafter | i have a for me major issue that i cant seem to solve i have been working on it for a few months now |
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| 12:58.39 | sheva_7_mek_1394 | hallo |
| 12:58.42 | sheva_7_mek_1394 | =) |
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| 12:59.05 | stew | CharminTheMoose: does "fuser /proc/acpi/event" return anything? |
| 12:59.12 | sheva_7_mek_1394 | wer hat keine bande oder will bandenbündniss? |
| 12:59.13 | sheva_7_mek_1394 | ^^ |
| 12:59.17 | stew | !de |
| 12:59.17 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de) |
| 13:00.01 | sheva_7_mek_1394 | wer hat keine bande oder will bandenbündniss? |
| 13:00.22 | abrotman | sheva_7_mek_1394: #debian.de |
| 13:00.35 | abrotman | sheva_7_mek_1394: english here |
| 13:00.35 | wols | abrotman: he clearly has no debian question. ban him already |
| 13:00.44 | abrotman | i don't even know what he's saying |
| 13:00.49 | wols | all he will do is troll #debian.de |
| 13:00.51 | sheva_7_mek_1394 | aso^^ |
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| 13:00.58 | wols | abrotman: doesn't make any sense in german either |
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| 13:01.50 | TuxCrafter | i cant get my secondary selection clipboard buffer working, i have installed: x11-apps, xcliboard, autocutsel, but when i start xcliboard and select text it does not appear in my buffer, how can i debug and solve my problem. |
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| 13:02.16 | DEadPuNk- | Eulex, i have install the automount for kde! now how to use it? |
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| 13:02.41 | Eulex | DEadPuNk-, I don't know, I don't use kde. but an 'automounter' is supposed to be automatic. |
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| 13:02.51 | Eulex | DEadPuNk-, if it's enabled, that is. |
| 13:02.57 | Ace2016_ | Any kde users here? what network manager do you use? |
| 13:02.58 | DEadPuNk- | ok Eulex :) |
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| 13:04.51 | clasico | hola |
| 13:04.59 | zamuro | !es |
| 13:04.59 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:05.00 | clasico | alguien de Cuba ? |
| 13:05.03 | zamuro | !es |
| 13:05.18 | zamuro | !tell clasico about es |
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| 13:06.12 | clasico | /join #debian-es |
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| 13:07.32 | clasico | friends, sorry, but i'm use the transport irc with a jabber server |
| 13:07.38 | zamuro | This cannot be possible!!! |
| 13:08.06 | zamuro | clasico: log out again and join #debian-es next time |
| 13:08.17 | clasico | why ? |
| 13:08.41 | zamuro | Well... if you want to get supported in spanish. |
| 13:08.54 | zamuro | If you don't care about speaking english, that's fine... |
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| 13:09.41 | clasico | ok ok, my english is not good |
| 13:09.45 | clasico | our see |
| 13:09.51 | zamuro | Then join the spanish channel |
| 13:10.20 | clasico | bye |
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| 13:15.17 | frapzzt | hi i have a sun e220r with an qlogic 2340 and it runs qith the qla2xxx module |
| 13:15.19 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 13:15.31 | frapzzt | but i need to throttle the card form 2 gbits down to 1gbits |
| 13:15.40 | frapzzt | anyone an idea how i can do this ? |
| 13:15.43 | pobega | Can anyone help me? What's a good Audio CD burning program besides K3B? |
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| 13:17.38 | abrotman | frapzzt: read the documentation for the driver? |
| 13:17.50 | abrotman | pobega: in etch? GUI/CLI? |
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| 13:18.14 | abrotman | and what's wrong with k3b .. most say it's the best thing since sliced bread ... or something |
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| 13:18.18 | frapzzt | abrotman: ye i did but its only for x86 oder solaris sparc but not linux spark |
| 13:18.22 | cyberjames | pobega: gnome baker |
| 13:18.30 | aleksanteri | pobega, cdrecord for cli, and yeah what's wrong with k3b? |
| 13:18.38 | abrotman | frapzzt: i meant the linux driver documentation |
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| 13:18.56 | pobega | abrotman: Either works, but CLI has to be easy to figure out because I need the CDs soon |
| 13:19.04 | pobega | cyberjames: I've tried GNOME-Baker, it always seems to crash |
| 13:19.06 | frapzzt | abrotman: you mean modinfo qla2xxx ? there is no throttling as option |
| 13:19.11 | Fox_1_ | people does anyone have flashplayer.xpt in version 9 it isn't in archive (tar)? |
| 13:19.21 | abrotman | frapzzt: i meant reading the source ? |
| 13:19.23 | pobega | aleksanteri: KDE libs...I don't wanna 300MB for one program on my system |
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| 13:19.33 | aleksanteri | pobega, you're on gnome? |
| 13:19.37 | muh2000 | does dhcpd3 have ldap support out of the box ? |
| 13:19.50 | pobega | aleksanteri: Xfce4 |
| 13:19.53 | aleksanteri | ah |
| 13:20.00 | frapzzt | abrotman: no i didn't read the source i am not good at source code reading |
| 13:20.16 | abrotman | i don't mean the source .. the documentation in the source |
| 13:20.39 | aleksanteri | pobega, well for gui i'd say use gnomebaker and for cli there's cdrecord |
| 13:21.15 | abrotman | pobega: gtoaster? |
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| 13:21.41 | pobega | gtoaster...I'll look into that one. But do you know if it'll burn oggs directly, or would I have to convert? |
| 13:21.57 | abrotman | pobega: brasero is in etch also |
| 13:22.03 | abrotman | admitttedly .. an early version |
| 13:22.21 | pobega | Oh, I'm in Lenny. It seems that gtoaster is Etch only, as it wants me to downgrade a lot of libs |
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| 13:22.43 | aleksanteri | !info gtoaster lenny |
| 13:22.45 | Eulex | pobega, right. |
| 13:22.49 | abrotman | pobega: so try brasero |
| 13:22.54 | aleksanteri | "Package 'gtoaster' does not exist." |
| 13:23.09 | pobega | Okay, trying Brasero now -- Thanks a lot for all the suggestions. |
| 13:23.28 | adp_1 | I have have a directory on an nfs server declared rw but when I mount it and try to write a file it says it's a readonly filesystem |
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| 13:24.00 | adp_1 | even though the mount point dir says I (remote user) own the directory |
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| 13:25.26 | efaistos | I have a LCD monitor that I would like to use with my laptop and it works but when I close the laptop the screen switches off ... is there a way to use it closed ? |
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| 13:26.05 | Fox_1_ | people does anyone have flash player 7 version? |
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| 13:28.44 | abrotman | Fox_1_: ask your real question |
| 13:29.09 | Fox_1_ | I just need flash player version 7 tar archive |
| 13:29.32 | stew | Fox_1_: flash.com |
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| 13:29.40 | Fox_1_ | there only 9 version |
| 13:29.53 | SzArAk | cos 9 is current. |
| 13:30.02 | kiko_ | any (ex/hybrid) gentoo user here? |
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| 13:30.10 | SzArAk | kiko_: why? |
| 13:30.12 | abrotman | Fox_1_: so use it .. |
| 13:30.25 | Fox_1_ | but I can't install 9 under 64bit OS |
| 13:30.47 | abrotman | nor 7 |
| 13:30.53 | abrotman | !tell Fox_1_ about nspluginwrapper |
| 13:30.56 | stew | Fox_1_: nobody else can legally give you flash |
| 13:30.57 | kiko_ | SzArAk: i'm about to move to debian from gentoo. and have a question. |
| 13:31.12 | SzArAk | kiko_: ask a question ;p |
| 13:31.34 | Fox_1_ | I know about nspluginwrapper, but it doesn't work with 9 version |
| 13:31.53 | stew | Fox_1_: how about gnash? |
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| 13:32.05 | kiko_ | SzArAk: actual quesiton is, sid is called unstable, is it like activate ~x86 flag globally in gentoo? |
| 13:32.38 | abrotman | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/ |
| 13:32.40 | abrotman | !sid faq |
| 13:32.41 | dpkg | http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html or http://weda.mine.nu/sidfaq.html (backup) |
| 13:32.48 | stew | kiko_: what does "activate ~x86 flag globally in gentoo" mean? |
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| 13:33.27 | kiko_ | stew: unstable :) they mark stable release as x86, and unstable ~x86 |
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| 13:33.45 | kiko_ | i'll read faq first and come back |
| 13:33.47 | SzArAk | kiko_: kind of. it's using newer versions of packeges, but possibly broken |
| 13:33.48 | stew | kiko_: it sounds like you are answering your own question |
| 13:34.09 | stew | kiko_: in debian 'unstable' just means 'constantly changing' |
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| 13:40.57 | kiko_ | stew: thanks. install with debian-testing-netinst.iso then rewrite sources.lst to sid, $aptitude upgrade. This will be whole (so called) unstable system? |
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| 13:41.27 | stew | kiko_: why do you want unstable instead of testing? |
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| 13:42.14 | abrotman | kiko_: you shoujld stick with stable or testing until you learn your way around debian ... |
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| 13:42.17 | s0l5 | I'm a bit Stuck im trying to run Debian or virtual server but its not working its saying the Host OS does not support it.. the host os is server 2k3... |
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| 13:43.00 | kiko_ | honestly i don't know why. :) hm so keep testing(or even stable) and find a way to install some packages from sid. |
| 13:43.18 | kiko_ | Is this possible, i guess? |
| 13:43.19 | abrotman | kiko_: no .. no one said that |
| 13:43.30 | abrotman | kiko_: why do you want stuff from unstable so badly? |
| 13:44.00 | stew | kiko_: its possible to mix packages from unstable with testing, but not with stable without recompiling (but many have been recompiled for you): /msg dpkg backports |
| 13:44.03 | TuxCrafter | hi guys, i installed debian sid with a clean debootstrap and i cant get my secondary selection clipboard buffer working, i have installed: x11-apps, xcliboard, autocutsel, selected text does not appear in my buffer, how can i test if my primary and secondary buffers are working and debug and solve my problem. What packages do i need and do i need to run a daemon i am not aware of, or use some xset option to set it all up? please help. thi |
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| 13:45.23 | kiko_ | abrotman: i like to keep stable system as base, just only few apps like acpi, multimedia, i prefer newer builds. |
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| 13:45.33 | dcnoye | what is the command to move a folder from one server to the next using ftp ? |
| 13:45.38 | echo-area | Hi |
| 13:46.07 | echo-area | I have an ibm external usb burner, but can't get work with my debian system |
| 13:46.08 | abrotman | kiko_: try testing .. it might work well for you |
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| 13:46.20 | SzArAk | dcnoye: in ftp you can't move folders. |
| 13:46.22 | stew | kiko_: in that case you'll need to use backports |
| 13:46.25 | echo-area | it is not detected |
| 13:46.27 | abrotman | kiko_: point your sources at lenny |
| 13:46.32 | joaop | my notebook is crashing all the time with a clean debian instalation, debian 4.0r3 (amd64) kernel 2.6.18, what can i do to debug ? |
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| 13:46.35 | dcnoye | thanks SzArAk |
| 13:46.35 | echo-area | how to install it correctly? thanks |
| 13:46.50 | Hyphenex | how do I make X11 and Skype open on startup, but without a WM? |
| 13:46.52 | stew | dcnoye: it depends on which client you are using, since such an action isn't directly supported by ftp |
| 13:47.06 | dcnoye | but is there a script the can cycle thru a folder ? |
| 13:47.18 | dcnoye | stew: command line clent |
| 13:47.26 | SzArAk | Hyphenex: eg.: startx /path/to/skype |
| 13:47.27 | abrotman | i think ncftp can |
| 13:47.27 | stew | dcnoye: which command line client? |
| 13:47.30 | stew | ncftp can |
| 13:47.52 | Hyphenex | SzArAk: won't that start a Window manager as well? |
| 13:47.56 | TuxCrafter | hi guys, i installed debian sid with a clean debootstrap and i cant get my secondary selection clipboard buffer working, i have installed: x11-apps, xcliboard, autocutsel, selected text does not appear in my buffer, how can i test if my primary and secondary buffers are working and debug and solve my problem. What packages do i need and do i need to run a daemon i am not aware of, or use some xset option to set it all up? please help. thi |
| 13:48.00 | dcnoye | what is the syntax tho ? |
| 13:48.05 | SzArAk | Hyphenex: try ;) |
| 13:48.05 | TuxCrafter | how sorry |
| 13:48.09 | TuxCrafter | dubbple past |
| 13:48.10 | dcnoye | is there a good example some where |
| 13:48.14 | TuxCrafter | same question |
| 13:49.24 | stew | dcnoye: put -R localdir remotelocation |
| 13:49.40 | kiko_ | thank you guys being so kindly helpful. i really appreciate it. i'm gonna check out about backport and compare my current installed program versions to what testing release offers. |
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| 13:49.53 | nepbabu | !moron |
| 13:49.53 | dpkg | well, moron is someone that types long lines starting with "dpkg", or a person whose brain needs to be on more |
| 13:50.01 | dcnoye | stew: so its ncftp host --- then put -R localdir remotelation ? |
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| 13:50.34 | stew | dcnoye: yes, and its 'ncftp -u username host' unless you want it to log you in anonymously |
| 13:50.54 | dcnoye | thanks stew |
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| 13:54.09 | SpookyET | hi |
| 13:54.22 | kiko_ | okay, looks like even lenny is a little ahead than what i'm using now. ^^; |
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| 13:54.34 | SpookyET | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.14 | abrotman | kiko_: just an FYI .. ask Lenny gets closer to release, it will stop getting package updates |
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| 13:57.06 | action09 | yo |
| 13:57.22 | kiko_ | abrotman: oh that means Lenny will be stable? |
| 13:57.33 | abrotman | kiko_: at some point, yes |
| 13:57.57 | abrotman | of course you can dist-upgrade to lenny+1 when that happens if you want |
| 13:58.05 | kiko_ | so if i'm on Lenny, there will be major update to be on testing. |
| 13:58.16 | kiko_ | i see |
| 13:59.21 | stew | kiko_: at the point at which lenny is released, and becomese stable, a new testing is created which will start off identical to lenny, as time goes on, lenny and the new testing will diverge more and more |
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| 14:02.46 | Whisky_ | I installed Xfce4 and XORG. When I type "X", X starts but there's just the cursor nothing else |
| 14:03.07 | abrotman | startx ? |
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| 14:03.18 | Whisky_ | how do i exit to the command line? |
| 14:03.35 | azeem | try ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 14:03.36 | kiko_ | stew: thanks. that clear my wonder. :) |
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| 14:06.14 | Whisky_ | it gets me to the same screen. Startx or X both get me to the screen with JUST the cursor :( |
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| 14:09.28 | abrotman | Whisky_: you have to set your .xsession to use xfce |
| 14:09.36 | Whisky_ | how do i do that? |
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| 14:10.51 | Eulex | Whisky_, try startxfce4. |
| 14:10.53 | Supaplex | humm 'exec openbox' in the last line in my .xinitrc |
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| 14:11.47 | Whisky_ | yes that worked |
| 14:11.51 | Whisky_ | THANKS =) |
| 14:12.05 | Supaplex | Whisky_: looks pretty easy. apropos xsession. ahh cool, all set. enjoy :) |
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| 14:16.24 | helo | what is the best way to see if a module is loaded in a startup script? |
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| 14:17.22 | Supaplex | helo: what for? sounds like /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 14:17.26 | erle- | is there a way to rebuild the data base of dpkg? |
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| 14:17.45 | helo | because i need to make sure a device is plugged in before i start a program that will be using it |
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| 14:20.10 | abrotman | okay .. don't wait for an answer |
| 14:20.18 | phlax | hi - ive setup a fresh etch box with raid1 partitions. When grub boots it drops me into busybox. I have root=/dev/md0 in my grub kernel line - is there anything else i need - or an obvious reason why its not finding my partitions? |
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| 14:22.04 | Supaplex | phlax: how'd you set it up? is /boot on raid1? did the initrd get loaded too? |
| 14:23.02 | phlax | Supaplex : no separate /boot, but / on raid1 - im reckoning that initrd must get loaded as it drops into initramfs |
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| 14:24.19 | Justin | phlax: how did you setup the raid? |
| 14:24.20 | Supaplex | phlax: the mystery is where that magic initramfs came from. |
| 14:24.46 | Supaplex | phlax: cat /proc/partitions - is md0 there? |
| 14:25.31 | phlax | justin: using the etch installer |
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| 14:25.38 | vinc456 | what should i be looking into if i need to manage high-volume e-mail from a mailing list? |
| 14:26.01 | phlax | Supaplex: strangely /dev/md1 is there but no sign of /dev/md0 |
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| 14:26.27 | iateadonut | is anyone using lenny? |
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| 14:26.28 | Supaplex | vinc456: manage in what way? your subs to mailing lists? you're the admin of one? |
| 14:26.31 | abrotman | vinc456: are you looking for a mailing list manager, an email client, or an email server |
| 14:26.35 | abrotman | iateadonut: lots of people .. just ask |
| 14:26.39 | Supaplex | !anyone use lenny |
| 14:26.39 | dpkg | No, no one uses lenny, not even the people who use it. |
| 14:27.16 | iateadonut | !anyone use water |
| 14:27.16 | dpkg | No, no one uses water, not even the people who use it. |
| 14:27.20 | vinc456 | i don't know what i'm looking for. I wanted to begin contributing bug patches and updating the wiki on wxPython this summer so i've begin to lurk around the community |
| 14:27.31 | vinc456 | i joined their mailing list but i'm getting a lot more e-mails than i expected |
| 14:27.44 | Hansiste | hy, when i copy data from my external usb-mass-storage-device (USB 2.0) to my PC (USB 1.1) my PC freezes every 5 seconds for maybe half a second. it is mounted via |
| 14:27.44 | Hansiste | /dev/sda1 /extern vfat uid=hansi,gid=hansi,user 0 0 |
| 14:27.44 | Hansiste | in fstab. can i change priority of copying, mount another way or something like that to stop that? or is it maybe a problem of too little ram? |
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| 14:28.05 | vinc456 | presently i'm using mutt to read all my mail, but all the wxPython mail is getting in the way of my personal mail |
| 14:28.38 | abrotman | vinc456: you could use procmail to put it in folders for you |
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| 14:29.01 | vinc456 | so that would be like sorting/filtering? |
| 14:29.02 | vinc456 | that would work |
| 14:29.09 | vinc456 | how do mailing list managers work? |
| 14:29.13 | Supaplex | Hansiste: fat32 isn't a very scaleable filesystem... how many files are adding/changing in directories when you do? |
| 14:29.22 | abrotman | vinc456: that's to manage mailing list subscribers |
| 14:29.27 | abrotman | !mailman |
| 14:29.28 | dpkg | i heard mailman is an excellent Python-based mailing list manager. http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ |
| 14:29.31 | abrotman | like that ... |
| 14:29.34 | abrotman | but that's not what you want |
| 14:29.52 | vinc456 | ah ok, i will try procmail then |
| 14:30.00 | vinc456 | thanks Supaplex and abrotman! |
| 14:30.07 | Supaplex | np vinc456 |
| 14:30.41 | Hansiste | Supaplex: maybe 100? but it is from the fat-system to ext3 |
| 14:30.42 | phlax | Supaplex: if i try to mount /dev/md1 from busybox, i get XFS: bad magic number |
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| 14:30.56 | Justin | Hansiste: cat /proc/mdstat ? |
| 14:31.07 | Meaw | I've got these messages in console then the server crashed see: |
| 14:31.08 | Meaw | http://www.pastebin.ca/951423 |
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| 14:31.47 | Hansiste | Justin: not found |
| 14:32.28 | Justin | Hansiste: well, that isn't a good sign |
| 14:32.33 | Justin | Hansiste: does your initrd have mdadm? |
| 14:32.35 | abrotman | Meaw: looks like squid threw up and took the box with it ? |
| 14:32.52 | Meaw | abrotman, you are right im running squid |
| 14:33.00 | Hansiste | Justin: sorry? |
| 14:33.13 | Meaw | it's a proxy server.. but what is the problem? |
| 14:33.24 | abrotman | Meaw: does it happen often ? |
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| 14:33.43 | Justin | Hansiste: mdadm |
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| 14:33.56 | Meaw | abrotman, this is the second time it happens |
| 14:34.01 | Meaw | in 24 hour |
| 14:34.32 | abrotman | Meaw: i'd probably do some hardware checking |
| 14:34.45 | Meaw | like? |
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| 14:34.52 | abrotman | RAM for starters |
| 14:35.00 | Supaplex | Meaw: or use an etch kernel (production box?) |
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| 14:35.19 | Gatonegr1 | Hello! Does anyone know how to force Gnome to automount my HFS+ iPod in read-write mode? |
| 14:35.38 | Meaw | Supaplex, I have lenny on this box, it comes with kernel 2.6.x |
| 14:36.02 | Meaw | abrotman, do you have an idea about how to test the memory? I've installed memtester |
| 14:36.20 | Supaplex | !tell Meaw -about memtest86 |
| 14:36.27 | abrotman | Meaw: how many passes? |
| 14:36.35 | abrotman | Gatonegr1: don't think you can |
| 14:36.49 | Supaplex | Meaw: all I'm saying is, I hope that box isn't a production one. (use stable for that) |
| 14:36.51 | Meaw | when i run memtester got messages: |
| 14:36.52 | Meaw | pagesize is 4096 |
| 14:36.52 | Meaw | pagesizemask is 0xfffff000 |
| 14:36.53 | Meaw | need memory argument, in MB |
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| 14:37.14 | Meaw | oh sorry.. thought three lines doesnt count as "flood" |
| 14:37.19 | Gatonegr1 | abrotman: I get a message in dmesg about "write access to a journaled filesystem is not suppoerted, use the force option at your own risk"... |
| 14:37.25 | Hansiste | Justin: raid? no i don't have |
| 14:37.29 | Gatonegr1 | abrotman: That implies there is a force option, no? |
| 14:37.32 | abrotman | Gatonegr1: which version of debian ? |
| 14:37.45 | Supaplex | Gatonegr1: ohhh beware of that. there's a high risk of losing data if your force that. |
| 14:37.48 | Justin | Hansiste: oh, derr, I meant phlax :) |
| 14:37.58 | Justin | phlax: cat /proc/mdstat ? |
| 14:38.04 | mquin | Gatonegr1: make sure you've got a complete backup before you go anywhere near the force option |
| 14:38.04 | NiLon | what was that command to check if remote machine do have port blocked by isp? netcat or somekind ipdump it was but I'm not sure |
| 14:38.21 | abrotman | nmap ? |
| 14:38.22 | Justin | NiLon: telnet will do fine |
| 14:38.25 | Gatonegr1 | Supaplex: Hum... I thought so. But anyway, how can I give it a try? |
| 14:38.30 | Hansiste | justin: no problem :) |
| 14:38.34 | Gatonegr1 | abrotman: Sid. |
| 14:38.40 | NiLon | Justin hmm good idea :) |
| 14:38.53 | abrotman | Gatonegr1: then read the docs for man mount .. see what the options are |
| 14:38.58 | Gatonegr1 | mquin: I have a backup, don't worry. But thanks for the warning. :) |
| 14:39.21 | Gatonegr1 | abrotman: I know how to force the option with manual mount... I'd just like to do it automatically. |
| 14:39.31 | abrotman | Gatonegr1: man fstab ? |
| 14:39.35 | Gatonegr1 | Just like it mounts the device whenever I p0lug it in. |
| 14:40.23 | vinc456 | Gatonegr1: i use gnome-volume-manager to do that with my USB flash drives, i don't know if it works with ipods |
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| 14:40.40 | phlax | Justin: md1: active raid1 sda[0] sdb[1] |
| 14:41.03 | Gatonegr1 | vinc456: gnome-volume-manager is what I want to use, but I don't know how to configure it to use the force option. |
| 14:41.06 | Supaplex | Gatonegr1: I'm not sure how. try manually first. |
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| 14:41.38 | Justin | phlax: that's a good sign |
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| 14:42.17 | Justin | phlax: though normall it is sda1[0] sdb1[1] or such, not sure if that is your problem.. maybe the isntaller set things up differently |
| 14:42.27 | abrotman | Gatonegr1: there is a gnome channel on irc.gnome.org |
| 14:42.40 | Justin | phlax: I think maybe you have a partitioned raid device? or maybe you are using lvm? |
| 14:42.55 | Meaw | abrotman, im not next to the box to boot memtest up, any other way to check memory? |
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| 14:43.07 | joaop | there is some problem using linux without swap ? |
| 14:43.10 | abrotman | Meaw: you can run memtest in the shel |
| 14:43.16 | abrotman | joaop: not unless you use all your RAM |
| 14:43.17 | phlax | Justin: yep i have a partitioned raid device with ext3 /, and xfs /usr /var etc |
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| 14:44.00 | Meaw | abrotman, I have memtest86 installed but when i type: memtest in console it says command not found. |
| 14:44.23 | abrotman | Meaw: dpkg -L memtest86 |
| 14:44.25 | Justin | phlax: ah, that explains why you can't mount /dev/md1 directly |
| 14:44.28 | abrotman | see what the binary name is |
| 14:44.31 | Justin | phlax: does dmesg mention anything about it? |
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| 14:45.03 | Hansiste | Supaplex: to me it seems that my pc fills ram with the data from the usb-disk and then copys everything to the local harddisk... and for that it needs all the cpu... is it possible and is it possible to change that? maybe by priority-stuff? |
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| 14:46.16 | Meaw | abrotman, it's in /boot /boot/memtest86.bin |
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| 14:46.41 | Meaw | abrotman, but i have memtester and ive already post what it says when i run it |
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| 14:46.47 | Supaplex | Hansiste: what priority-stuff? |
| 14:46.53 | phlax | Justin: dmesg says that /dev/md1 is not clean and that its going to reconstruct it and then its stops md0,md2+ |
| 14:46.59 | abrotman | Meaw: uh .. that's not what i meant |
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| 14:47.41 | Meaw | abrotman, what you mean |
| 14:47.43 | abrotman | hrm |
| 14:47.51 | abrotman | i thought you could run it from the shell |
| 14:48.04 | abrotman | though there is memtester |
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| 14:48.20 | Hansiste | Supaplex: i don't know. isn't there any way to tell the cpu what priority every process has? do downgrade cp... |
| 14:48.25 | Meaw | abrotman, yes memtester can be run in shell |
| 14:48.32 | Meaw | abrotman, memtester says like : pagesizemask is 0xfffff000 |
| 14:48.38 | Meaw | need memory argument, in MB |
| 14:48.47 | Hansiste | Supaplex: to downgrade cp |
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| 14:49.55 | lunaphyte_ | i'm reading about bonding ethernet interfaces together - there are references to adding a line such as "alias bond0 bonding" to /etc/modprobe.d/arch/i386 - is that the right place to do that? also, what if i have 2 more interfaces and want to have 2 bonded interfaces? |
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| 14:50.56 | Justin | lunaphyte_: you probably don't have to do that |
| 14:51.43 | lunaphyte_ | i don't |
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| 14:51.47 | lunaphyte_ | ? |
| 14:52.03 | Supaplex | Hansiste: 'nice/renice' - but it only marginally affects disk i/o. there are some i/o scheduling stuff in recent kernels, but I haven't played with it much. |
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| 14:53.01 | Hansiste | Supaplex: thx, i'll test it |
| 14:53.18 | stew | lunaphyte_: check the docs in the ifenslave-2.6 package if you haven't already |
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| 15:02.46 | aguai | http://rafb.net/p/4aIL6026.html <- it seems like my apt-listenchange is crashed |
| 15:03.05 | aguai | any idea about this? |
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| 15:03.26 | vvd | how random is /dev/random? |
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| 15:03.49 | cahoot | varies |
| 15:03.54 | aguai | vvd: /dev/random? |
| 15:03.58 | micols | which debian cd are blackbox, bbkeys and gimp on? |
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| 15:04.13 | _KavOOr_ | Hi, my etch (build 17 feb) installation is failing. says cannot load module for CDROM |
| 15:04.18 | azeem | aguai: http://bugs.debian.org/469221 |
| 15:04.42 | cloakable | vvd: it's slow but reliable, AFAIK |
| 15:04.49 | vvd | when i write 160GB from /dev/randowm, will there be repeating data? |
| 15:04.57 | stew | vvd: very random. it is based on environmental factors, and will refuse to give data if it doesn't have enough random data. /dev/urandom is less random, it will be more willing to give less random data |
| 15:05.01 | azeem | vvd: that's a very stupid idea |
| 15:05.13 | azeem | vvd: it'll take a month or so |
| 15:05.18 | aguai | azeem: thx |
| 15:05.30 | vvd | azeem: 21 h :) |
| 15:05.39 | vvd | 2,1 MB/s |
| 15:05.55 | azeem | vvd: is this for some top-secret business server? |
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| 15:06.31 | vvd | stew: ah ok, then i can speed it up by moving the mouse? |
| 15:06.53 | azeem | moving the mouse for 19 hours, yes |
| 15:06.54 | vvd | azeem: top-secret desktop pc |
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| 15:07.29 | vinc456 | hmmmm, i think one of my friends tried to keep the cpu by sorting /dev/random. eventually once the computer ran out of RAM it started to swap on disk which i thought was pretty cool. Later on in one of my classes i learned that this was a famous sorting algorithm used in many database applications but i've forgotten what it's called |
| 15:07.35 | stew | vvd: its not likely to stay at 2.1 MB/s, yes. you can watch /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail to see how much random data is available |
| 15:08.22 | vvd | stew: is that in MB? |
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| 15:08.47 | azeem | vvd: no, bytes AFAIK |
| 15:09.10 | azeem | or kb, dunno |
| 15:09.11 | lydgate | can anyone recommend a good local spam solution? my mailserver already uses spamassassin |
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| 15:09.34 | stew | vvd: its in bits afaik |
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| 15:10.01 | wols | lydgate: dspam? |
| 15:10.17 | hellop | Hello. Is netselect-apt working for anyone else? |
| 15:10.17 | lydgate | (i use fdm + mutt) |
| 15:10.18 | wols | lydgate: SA is good already. if bloaty |
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| 15:10.55 | wols | !tell lydgate about volatile |
| 15:11.30 | lydgate | wols: yeah, SA I dunno if they don't update it or what, it's letting some through so i'm thinking what to run on my machine |
| 15:11.30 | lydgate | last i checked DSPAM was a real pain to set up -- is that still true? |
| 15:11.33 | hellop | I searched the web and edited it, as described, replacing the check for '\n\n' with '<br><br>' That made it actually see the list of mirrors, but then it stops, and exits. |
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| 15:12.33 | Airbottle | can i get a list of all installed programs on my debian install? |
| 15:12.43 | hellop | Airbottle, dpkg -l |
| 15:12.48 | hellop | little ell |
| 15:12.50 | azeem | Airbottle: dpkg -l | grep ^ii |
| 15:12.58 | Airbottle | thanks! |
| 15:12.58 | stew | Airbottle: ls /bin /usr/bin /sbin /usr/sbin |
| 15:14.02 | stew | vvd: yeah, according to random(4), it is bits, so divide by 8 million to get MB |
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| 15:15.37 | hellop | doesn't anyone use netselect-apt to find the fastest server? |
| 15:15.54 | torrr | hi |
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| 15:16.45 | Deezire | hellop: Most guys know where the fastest mirror is |
| 15:16.46 | torrr | I have this link that works only in windows http://www2.geo.uib.no/hovercraft/ and not in my debian linux even with telnet it works only in windows |
| 15:16.52 | wubrgamer | hey guys, quick question |
| 15:16.52 | wubrgamer | how do I download a *deb directly from the mirror through , say firefox ? |
| 15:16.54 | vvd | stew: mine is around ~150 (+/-10) all the time |
| 15:16.58 | wubrgamer | I know it's possible |
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| 15:17.09 | Deezire | Visit the mirror? |
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| 15:17.15 | torrr | now I asked in web and someone told me that with FC it works fine |
| 15:17.21 | Airbottle | azeem, can i echo the output in a textfile? |
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| 15:17.26 | vvd | +/-20 |
| 15:17.30 | torrr | so it may be a debian problem? |
| 15:17.32 | jetscreamer | wubrgamer: pool directory |
| 15:17.36 | hellop | can someone try to apt-get netselect-apt and see if it works for them? |
| 15:17.40 | jetscreamer | ftp |
| 15:18.05 | hoxu | wubrgamer, why do you think you need to do that? |
| 15:18.07 | wubrgamer | where is the pook directory, seriously, could I get a link? |
| 15:18.08 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 15:18.08 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 15:18.20 | jetscreamer | and d/l them |
| 15:18.29 | wubrgamer | I'm trying to DL is from that |
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| 15:18.51 | jetscreamer | go to ftp.debian.org and browse |
| 15:18.56 | jetscreamer | pool directory |
| 15:19.12 | Airbottle | oh, i got it already |
| 15:19.21 | wubrgamer | ftp.debian.org isn't responding |
| 15:19.27 | abrotman | so use a mirror |
| 15:19.34 | wubrgamer | could you link me ? |
| 15:19.37 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 15:19.37 | dpkg | hmm... debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 15:20.01 | abrotman | wubrgamer: what are you really trying to do? |
| 15:20.51 | hoxu | my question... |
| 15:20.54 | wubrgamer | ubuntu doesn't have obmenu as a .deb yet |
| 15:20.54 | wubrgamer | and I want to try the debian package before rolling my own |
| 15:21.00 | abrotman | haha |
| 15:21.07 | hoxu | ._. |
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| 15:21.28 | wubrgamer | why yeah, I know ubuntu isn't debian, but I did a cmd line only install of *buntu, and was hoping that at this level it's still be compatible |
| 15:21.28 | wubrgamer | wouldn't it be ? |
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| 15:22.01 | hoxu | wubrgamer, well, you may be lucky, but don't cry if it screws up your system and eats the cookies :p |
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| 15:22.33 | jetscreamer | you'll find locales the largest problem, locales the package |
| 15:22.44 | wubrgamer | it won't ! |
| 15:22.45 | wubrgamer | anyway, how do I install a package from cmd line ? |
| 15:22.46 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:22.53 | wubrgamer | I always used that gui in *buntu |
| 15:22.57 | hoxu | wubrgamer, dpkg -i |
| 15:22.59 | jetscreamer | you do it manually |
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| 15:23.12 | jetscreamer | you should already know that |
| 15:23.14 | wubrgamer | duh, I was asking for the comnmand jetscreamer |
| 15:23.24 | jetscreamer | duh i noticed |
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| 15:23.40 | wubrgamer | dude, people don't come to support forums "already knowing", assume I'm stupid |
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| 15:24.06 | vvd | is it possible to watch a file in realtime (without reopening it every time)? |
| 15:24.09 | wubrgamer | and it worked ! thanks everyone ! debian rocks |
| 15:24.10 | jetscreamer | i don't have to assume you said what you are trying to do... :) j/k sorta |
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| 15:24.15 | hoxu | vvd, define "watch" |
| 15:24.27 | vvd | hoxu: like i want to see it in a terminal |
| 15:24.35 | hoxu | vvd, tail -f perhaps? |
| 15:25.06 | jetscreamer | watch it grow in size ? |
| 15:25.08 | vvd | hoxu: tail: /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail: file truncated |
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| 15:25.37 | vvd | watch it contents :) |
| 15:25.47 | hoxu | vvd, uhh, watch cat? |
| 15:25.53 | helo | if /sbin/lsmod|grep -q modulename; then echo found device; fi |
| 15:25.58 | vvd | cat opens, shows and closes again |
| 15:26.11 | hoxu | vvd, yes, watch cat? :p |
| 15:26.30 | jetscreamer | !watch |
| 15:26.30 | dpkg | checks his watch. The time is 15:27:01 |
| 15:26.34 | vvd | hehe, i wanted it with no reopening every time) |
| 15:26.38 | hoxu | harhar |
| 15:26.39 | jetscreamer | darn |
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| 15:26.45 | jetscreamer | !info watch |
| 15:26.55 | jetscreamer | darn |
| 15:27.12 | jetscreamer | get a timex? |
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| 15:27.38 | hoxu | vvd, find out whether something supports inotify... or core something of your own, I don't honestly see the point though |
| 15:27.43 | hoxu | *code |
| 15:28.18 | vvd | hmm, just to see how the entropy pool develops over time? :> |
| 15:28.37 | hoxu | vvd, and the problem of the file being closed is...? |
| 15:28.45 | vvd | hoxu: its ugly |
| 15:28.58 | vvd | and not realtime |
| 15:29.05 | hoxu | really. |
| 15:29.06 | vvd | i could miss some values in between |
| 15:29.33 | vvd | :p |
| 15:29.40 | hoxu | !rack vvd |
| 15:29.40 | dpkg | pushes a server rack slightly and makes it fall on vvd leaving a large wet spot |
| 15:29.43 | hoxu | !next |
| 15:29.43 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
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| 15:30.54 | mugwort13 | anyone have experience running "apt-build world"? every so often "Unable to find source information for <pkg-name> at /usr/bin/apt-build line 482." |
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| 15:31.39 | robin_sz | evening ppl, I want to run some sort of VNC client on a windows laptop and some sort of vnc server on Debian, to give me a remote X screen ... i have vnc4server on the debian box, cant seem to find a windblows client ... any other suggestions? |
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| 15:32.19 | peleg | Hi. I have made a nice cronjob that operates as an alarm - it calls "mplayer -really-quiet -shuffle -playlist /home/peleg/.alarm-playlist" every morning. My problem is: how do I make it stop? currently I have mplayer running on the "backgroun", and the only way I see to stop it is by killing its process. what do you say? |
| 15:32.31 | mquin | robin_sz: http://www.realvnc.com/ |
| 15:32.38 | jetscreamer | fg? |
| 15:32.53 | jetscreamer | !fg |
| 15:32.53 | dpkg | fg is, like, foreground, or friendly grin |
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| 15:32.59 | robin_sz | mquin, i have that, but the windows realvnc client wont seem to connect to vnc4server on debain |
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| 15:33.53 | hellop | If I run this perl, netselect-apt can parse the mirrors list, but netselect itself hangs: perl -pi -e 's/<BR><BR>/\n\n/ig' mirrors_full |
| 15:33.55 | peleg | I mean: why don't I see the mplayer on my gnome panel? |
| 15:34.08 | mquin | robin_sz: it should do |
| 15:34.16 | robin_sz | oh, hmmm |
| 15:34.22 | Cobra^^ | peleg: why not just killall mplayer? |
| 15:34.25 | hellop | Can anyone verify that netselect-apt or just this command: "netselect debian.org" works on thier system? |
| 15:34.38 | cahoot | peleg: using mplayers --endpos option? |
| 15:34.45 | peleg | Cobra^^: I thought it is probably unhealthy to kill processes all the time. |
| 15:34.53 | wols | robin_sz: ultravnc is nice: it's GPLed. but any vnc client will do. is the vnc server listening? |
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| 15:35.00 | wols | robin_sz: can you connect with telnet? |
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| 15:35.09 | Cobra^^ | well, basically it's just like pressing ctrl+c |
| 15:35.15 | peleg | cahoot: "Unknown option on the command line: --endpos" |
| 15:35.17 | robin_sz | it says its listneing on ports 5901 and 6001 |
| 15:35.27 | Cobra^^ | i also have an alarm with mpg123, i kill it with killall |
| 15:35.29 | cahoot | peleg: man mplayer |
| 15:35.31 | JeffH | does anyone know where I can get a debian package for ddclient v3.7.1? |
| 15:35.37 | wols | robin_sz: and how are you connecting via realvnc viewer EXACLTY? |
| 15:35.50 | wols | !tell JeffH about search |
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| 15:36.52 | matrix | hi |
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| 15:36.54 | matrix | i need debian stable version name |
| 15:36.54 | robin_sz | ummm, well, yes i can telent, I get some connection accepted and a string like "RFB 003.008" |
| 15:37.27 | Pabl0Escobar | matrix: etch |
| 15:37.27 | hoxu | matrix, etch |
| 15:37.34 | robin_sz | wols: and on the xp box i just run the view, give the ip addy and it fails to connect, there is no option other than IP address to set from wat I see |
| 15:37.34 | wols | robin_sz: and what is the reavnc options you use. what full host string do you use? |
| 15:37.37 | matrix | debian etch ? |
| 15:37.37 | Pabl0Escobar | hoxu: 1 sec. faster :D |
| 15:37.46 | hoxu | Pabl0Escobar, depends on where you are standing... |
| 15:37.48 | robin_sz | ahh, host string? |
| 15:37.56 | robin_sz | like host:port? |
| 15:37.59 | wols | robin_sz: you ocnnect to the wrong port. by default first port is 5900. since you use 5901 you need to tell the viewer that |
| 15:38.03 | matrix | Can you say me pls link ? |
| 15:38.07 | matrix | download .iso link ? |
| 15:38.07 | robin_sz | righty |
| 15:38.15 | hoxu | !d-i |
| 15:38.15 | dpkg | 4.0r3 etch is now the "Stable" debian release (April 8, 2007) see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Sarge is still available at http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. IRC: oftc.net: #debian-boot. |
| 15:38.16 | wols | !tell matrix about stable |
| 15:38.19 | mquin | robin_sz: try hostname:1 |
| 15:38.29 | wols | mquin: no |
| 15:38.46 | robin_sz | awesome!! |
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| 15:38.53 | mquin | wols: you've got a great way with words |
| 15:38.53 | robin_sz | just needed a pot number on the end |
| 15:38.55 | robin_sz | I thnak you |
| 15:38.58 | matrix | is it stable version ?http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/i386/iso-dvd/debian-40r3-i386-DVD-1.iso |
| 15:39.00 | robin_sz | youo are all lovely |
| 15:39.05 | matrix | sould i download it ? |
| 15:39.06 | wols | matrix: yes |
| 15:39.08 | robin_sz | marry me and have my babies |
| 15:39.10 | matrix | thank youu |
| 15:39.12 | peleg | found a solution: now I will call "mplayer -gui -really-quiet -shuffle -playlist /home/peleg/.alarm-playlist" instead (added -gui) - cahoot, thanks. |
| 15:40.04 | hoxu | matrix, that's DVD iso, you could use a smaller image (CD/netinst) for install if you have network connectivity |
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| 15:40.39 | mquin | wols: for info the windows viewer accepts either a display number or port number, so hostname:1 and hostname:5901 will both work |
| 15:41.02 | hellop | Is it possible to install a small .deb package from an earlier debian release like sarge on my etch system? |
| 15:41.12 | wols | mquin: which of the 20 different available readers? |
| 15:41.24 | wols | hellop: usually yes |
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| 15:41.36 | mquin | wols: the one robin_sz was using |
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| 15:43.15 | brahman | good afternoon, anyone have any news on the sky2 driver and if it's still as buggy? |
| 15:44.42 | abrotman | as buggy as what/when ? |
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| 15:44.54 | abrotman | hellop: sometimes |
| 15:45.31 | brahman | abrotman: sorry i assumed it was common knowledge that it had major problems with the Marvell Yukon NIC's |
| 15:46.01 | abrotman | brahman: those changes are upstream .. you probably want #kernel |
| 15:46.06 | abrotman | brahman: or read the LKML |
| 15:46.43 | brahman | when I use the onboard NIC, my connection drops very often.. I have bought a PCI NIC to replace it... |
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| 15:46.52 | brahman | will ask on #kernel |
| 15:47.03 | jetscreamer | why would it be common |
| 15:47.13 | abrotman | brahman: sometimes that kernel uh .. crap .. let me find it |
| 15:47.26 | abrotman | brahman: kerneltrap.org has tidbits like that |
| 15:47.45 | hellop | wols, abrotman, I searched and found, "dpkg -i" which automatically installed the "new lower version" but I would like to install the version from a previous relase. Any suggestions on what I search for the find out how? maybe.. use a temp sources.list? |
| 15:48.06 | abrotman | hellop: packages.debian.org ? |
| 15:48.14 | helo | is there an xmessage-like tool that will let me specify the font size? |
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| 15:49.11 | stew | helo: perhaps xmessage and specify a font via resources? |
| 15:49.34 | abrotman | too bad KT died off |
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| 15:51.59 | robin_sz | hmmm, ok, so I have vnc connected, but win foo.exe which normally works a treat on that box, fails to find an xserver to display its stuff on |
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| 15:52.32 | stew | robin_sz: what is the error you are getting? |
| 15:53.22 | helo | is there a lightweight x11 image viewer that comes with xorg? |
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| 15:53.58 | azeem | helo: what comes with xorg is really lightweight, yes |
| 15:54.01 | abrotman | helo: comes with .. no .. but feh and eog are pretty lightweight |
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| 15:54.18 | robin_sz | stew: run from an xterm in vnc: glxcmds.c:343: CreateContext: Assertion `mode != ((void *)0)' failed. |
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| 15:54.45 | hellop | abrotman, according to this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=451889 There is a bug in netselect with Debian Stable. So, I would like to use apt-get -t to choose "Sarge" but it seems I can only choose "Stable", "testing" etc.. |
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| 15:56.28 | robin_sz | stew, what Im TRYING to do is run a wine app, via VNC on a debian box, so I can start it / run it without having to have a poxy monitor and kb/mouse in the server room |
| 15:56.47 | abrotman | hellop: TBH .. i think i'd rather backport the one from lenny/sid than try to use sarge's |
| 15:56.56 | wols | robin_sz: does the windows ap need glx? |
| 15:57.24 | robin_sz | wols: unsure ... it does run OK from wine locally |
| 15:57.40 | wols | what app is it? |
| 15:57.44 | robin_sz | some crappy old fox-pro db shite |
| 15:58.00 | hellop | abrotman, it seems that unstable uses the same broken version as stable |
| 15:58.02 | robin_sz | proprietary horror I wish I had never seen |
| 15:58.31 | abrotman | hellop: packages.debian.org/netselect-apt says otherwise |
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| 15:58.38 | abrotman | hellop: as does that bug page |
| 15:58.49 | hellop | oh I guess my -t didn't work, thanks |
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| 15:58.55 | puchu | hi |
| 15:59.07 | stew | robin_sz: i believe that is a known problem with wine. check wine's bugtracker |
| 15:59.21 | stew | robin_sz: the debian bts mentions known problems with wine and vnc |
| 15:59.22 | puchu | how can i downgrade my apt-get cache to an older version? |
| 15:59.31 | robin_sz | ahh |
| 15:59.32 | puchu | in lenny dnsmasq seems to be broken |
| 15:59.33 | robin_sz | kk |
| 15:59.35 | robin_sz | thnaks |
| 15:59.35 | stew | puchu: what do you mean? |
| 15:59.49 | puchu | stew i need an older version of dnsmasq |
| 16:00.09 | puchu | dnsmasq-base seems to be broken |
| 16:00.45 | stew | puchu: what version do you have now? how is it broken? |
| 16:01.05 | puchu | i removed the old one because i thought it was bloking dnsmasq-base |
| 16:01.13 | puchu | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 16:01.13 | puchu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.13 | puchu | ead: Broken packages |
| 16:01.28 | puchu | apt-get install dnsmasq |
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| 16:01.35 | stew | puchu: show us the output of "apt-cache policy dnsmasq dnsmasq-base" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 16:01.50 | stew | puchu: plesae don't paste directly into the channel, use a pastebin |
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| 16:01.59 | brahman | in #kernel |
| 16:02.03 | brahman | joiin #kernel |
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| 16:02.21 | brahman | Am having a BAD day!! hehehe |
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| 16:02.37 | robin_ | . |
| 16:02.50 | puchu | stew: pasted it |
| 16:02.55 | stew | puchu: where? |
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| 16:03.17 | puchu | use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 16:03.36 | stew | dpkg: tell puchu about pastebin |
| 16:03.59 | puchu | stew: http://rafb.net/p/zqyzrd73.html |
| 16:05.06 | stew | puchu: have you run apt-get update or aptitude update recently? |
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| 16:05.14 | puchu | stew yeah |
| 16:05.15 | stew | !info dnsmasq-base lenny |
| 16:05.18 | dpkg | dnsmasq-base: (A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP/TFTP server), section net, is optional. Version: 2.41-2 (lenny), Packaged size: 228 kB, Installed size: 596 kB |
| 16:05.19 | puchu | a few minutes ago |
| 16:05.26 | stew | puchu: you should be seeing ^^ that version, i dont' know why you wouldn't be |
| 16:05.43 | stew | puchu: what arch are you on? |
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| 16:05.52 | puchu | mipsel |
| 16:05.59 | SexyKen | Hey guys, when I try to turn quotaon using 'quotaon /exports/filer', the error pops up: quotaon: Mountpoint (or device) /exports/filer not found. - But that is 100% a mountpoint |
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| 16:06.14 | stew | puchu: oh, that explains it |
| 16:06.17 | puchu | stew how can i force a resync of the apt-get cache? |
| 16:06.38 | puchu | or how can i install the version 2.40-1 |
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| 16:06.51 | puchu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.51 | puchu | doesnt seem to work |
| 16:07.23 | stew | puchu: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 16:08.03 | stew | puchu: it would be "apt-get install dnsmasq=2.40-1" however, that is not an available version according to "apt-cache plicy dnsmasq" (and you have no available versions of -base) |
| 16:08.20 | stew | puchu: "apt-get update" forces a resync of the apt-get cache |
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| 16:08.55 | wfq | hello |
| 16:10.51 | puchu | stew and going back to a lenny snapshot of the apt-cache about one week ago isnt possible? |
| 16:10.52 | wfq | I am getting this error: iwlwifi-4965-1.ucode firmware failed reason -2 but I have that file in /usr/lib/firmware and the option in the kernel is |
| 16:11.02 | wfq | so does anyone have an idea what could be going on? |
| 16:11.04 | stew | puchu: no |
| 16:11.20 | stew | puchu: and the packages it would point to are no longer availble from your mirror anyway |
| 16:11.22 | cahoot | wfq: /lib/firmware I'd say |
| 16:12.16 | puchu | stew thanks |
| 16:12.27 | puchu | for oyur help |
| 16:12.29 | puchu | your |
| 16:12.42 | stew | puchu: did you get it from sdn? |
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| 16:13.05 | wfq | Cahoot, thanks. Checking |
| 16:13.31 | puchu | stew no |
| 16:13.36 | puchu | stew the version there is too old |
| 16:13.43 | puchu | id like to use 2.41 |
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| 16:13.51 | gigo | hi |
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| 16:14.43 | gigo | in my sound icon in the notification panel, there is a cross. when I click on it, it says, "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.". Could someone please help me in troubleshooting this? |
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| 16:14.49 | stew | puchu: the other options is to try building it yourself: /msg dpkg source |
| 16:15.01 | puchu | okay thanks |
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| 16:15.32 | stew | puchu: sdn has 2.41-2 |
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| 16:17.43 | puchu | stew how can i add libs to dnsmasq so apt-get nows that this libs are only a dependency of dnsmasq? |
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| 16:17.57 | puchu | libdbus-1-3 for example |
| 16:18.14 | puchu | somethink like --onshot in gentoo |
| 16:18.14 | stew | puchu: i don't understand what you are asking |
| 16:18.20 | puchu | oneshot |
| 16:18.26 | stew | i don't know what that does |
| 16:19.12 | stew | puchu: i'm recommending that you add "deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool dnsmasq" to your sources.list, apt-get update, then "apt-cache policy dnsmasq dnsmasq-base" and see what versions are available |
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| 16:19.19 | puchu | dnsmasq depends on some libs and when i remove dnsmasq i get a list of libs that where installed as a dependency |
| 16:19.47 | stew | puchu: that happens automatically assuming you use aptitude (which is recommended) or apt version 0.70 or better |
| 16:19.47 | beardy | Use aptitude. |
| 16:19.50 | beardy | DO IT. |
| 16:20.01 | stew | puchu: since you are on lennny, i'm assuming that your apt is tracking that stuff |
| 16:20.07 | puchu | yeah |
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| 16:20.22 | puchu | so i dont have to tell it to install the lib in a specifiy way? |
| 16:20.36 | puchu | i wanted to isntall the deb package with dpkg -i |
| 16:20.37 | stew | puchu: "apt-get autoremove" would uninstall things that were only installed to satisfy a dependency and are no longer needed |
| 16:20.43 | wubrgamer | hey guys, why is it that ubuntu can use the debian logo...nearly everywhere in it's distro ??? seriosly, isn't that like...trademark infrigement ? |
| 16:20.46 | jelly-home | stew: however, all the packages installed before apt=0.70 won't be marked auto |
| 16:21.02 | stew | wubrgamer: it depends on which logo, the swirl is freely usable |
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| 16:21.15 | stew | jelly-home: right, he's asking about something he's about to install though |
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| 16:21.27 | beardy | wubrgamer: It's laziness more likely, things they haven't, or don't know how to, change. |
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| 16:21.42 | beardy | Like the default apache page, and so on. |
| 16:22.01 | stew | puchu: "dpkg -i foo.deb" will exit with an error because of the dependencies, then "apt-get -f install" or "aptitude -f install" will install the dependencies, and mark them as "auto-installed" which will allow them to be autoremoved later |
| 16:22.22 | jelly-home | stew: would be nice to have something like debfoster, only not to actually remove stuff but mark them |
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| 16:22.46 | puchu | stew but can i mark them auto-installed manually? |
| 16:22.58 | stew | puchu: yes, with apt-mark |
| 16:23.04 | puchu | cool thanks |
| 16:23.06 | wubrgamer | seriously, I just booted up into the gnome chooser, the basic one |
| 16:23.12 | Dewi | puchu: or aptitude markauto |
| 16:23.38 | wubrgamer | and I had a giant debian logo blaring at me, it made me think for a second that I still had debian installed on this junker |
| 16:23.54 | stew | wubrgamer: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 16:24.08 | puchu | stew thanks it works again |
| 16:24.10 | wubrgamer | it's just a comment...I'm not asking how to change it |
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| 16:24.23 | wubrgamer | I was just wondering how this channel felt about it I guess ? idk |
| 16:24.33 | jelly-home | wubrgamer: *shrug* |
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| 16:25.26 | stew | wubrgamer: ubuntu is off-topic here. see http://debian.org/logos to see that the logo is "open use" |
| 16:26.18 | wubrgamer | okay, peace |
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| 16:27.22 | [gnubie] | gtg now.. |
| 16:27.23 | [gnubie] | waves |
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| 16:27.40 | RepairMaster | how can i install deb package ? |
| 16:28.22 | puchu | RepairMaster dpkg -i doo.deb |
| 16:28.58 | RepairMaster | i think should deb nameompackage.deb |
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| 16:32.36 | matrix | how can i use deppacke with internet |
| 16:32.37 | matrix | no cd ? |
| 16:33.00 | lunk | are there any browsers that have a smaller memory footprint than firefox? |
| 16:33.19 | robin_sz | lynx |
| 16:33.22 | lunk | i don't need plugins, just decent html viewing that doesn't thrash my swap |
| 16:33.31 | lunk | well, a gui app ;) |
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| 16:33.51 | abrotman | lunk: amaya ? |
| 16:33.59 | lunk | never heard of it! |
| 16:34.11 | stew | lunk: "apt-cache showpkg www-browser" in the "reverse provides" section |
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| 16:34.17 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/ |
| 16:34.34 | Pabl0Escobar | lunk: epiphany |
| 16:34.34 | prahal | hi is there an audio thumbnailer for nautilus (as there used to be gstreamer-player-nautilus ?) |
| 16:34.41 | lunk | stew: thank you sir |
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| 16:34.48 | lunk | Pabl0Escobar: will check it out, thanks everyone |
| 16:34.50 | abrotman | Pabl0Escobar: that's not really any smaller |
| 16:35.04 | Pabl0Escobar | abrotman: not in my opinion :) |
| 16:35.26 | matrix | iwant o aptitude but it using cd |
| 16:35.29 | matrix | i dont want to it . |
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| 16:35.34 | abrotman | Pabl0Escobar: try them both .. same rendering engine |
| 16:35.38 | matrix | i want to it use the internet .. |
| 16:35.44 | abrotman | matrix: comment out the CD sources in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:35.49 | Pabl0Escobar | abrotman: yes,but less bloat at epiphany |
| 16:35.57 | abrotman | hardly |
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| 16:36.06 | Pabl0Escobar | phaidros: mpg123 or mpg321, AFAIR |
| 16:36.21 | Pabl0Escobar | grrr |
| 16:36.45 | Pabl0Escobar | prahal: ^^ |
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| 16:37.00 | beardy | matrix: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, add a mirror to use after commenting out your discs. |
| 16:37.02 | lunk | iceweasel destroys my laptop for some reason |
| 16:37.04 | lunk | :/ |
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| 16:38.29 | abrotman | prahal: what do you mean thumbnailer? |
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| 16:40.33 | matrix | how can i install sshd ? |
| 16:40.49 | stew | matrix: aptitude install openssh-server |
| 16:40.51 | edistar | matrix: apt-get install openssh-server |
| 16:40.59 | edistar | stew: heh |
| 16:41.06 | drwahl | i'm still a little foggy about X11 stuff in linux and most of the articles i pull up are all for xfree86. does anyone have a link for good documentation of how X works? i want to understand how it talks with the kernel and decides to draw windows and interacts with the driver |
| 16:41.23 | stew | drwahl: try #xorg |
| 16:41.31 | drwahl | stew: will do, thanks |
| 16:42.00 | matrix | packet cant find error |
| 16:42.38 | stew | matrix: have you run "aptitude update" or "apt-get update" recently? |
| 16:42.56 | hellop | nevermind.. you click all |
| 16:43.16 | prahal | abrotman, sound "preview" as is told by nautilus preference. |
| 16:43.33 | matrix | stew : i did but same error |
| 16:43.38 | stew | matrix: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 16:43.44 | mot | how do i change the mouse settings/scroll speed in fluxbox? =\ |
| 16:44.15 | vvd | can i pause a dd process? |
| 16:44.30 | abrotman | prahal: i'd think you'd want to use totem .. ask #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
| 16:44.32 | stew | mot: xset should work regardless of window manager |
| 16:44.39 | stew | vvd: sure, why not? |
| 16:45.01 | matrix | i have just link it s security.debian.org ? |
| 16:45.04 | vvd | stew: maybe some side effects, dunno |
| 16:45.08 | matrix | in source.list |
| 16:45.14 | matrix | stew |
| 16:45.46 | prahal | Pabl0Escobar, I have both mpg123 and mpg321 install . I believe I have to build the "thumbnailer" script myself (though I have read mails back from 2005 from user telling they had it working by just installing them .... I am a bit lost right now ... I am also struggling with gconf to define thmbnailer for ogg as audio/x-vorbis+ogg does not translate easely in a gconf key ... / becomes @ but + becomes something that nobody seems to kno |
| 16:45.46 | prahal | ws about |
| 16:45.54 | stew | matrix: you need to add a main mirror as well. security.debian.org only contains security updates, not everything, /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 16:47.01 | prahal | abrotman, sure totem seems like the right application I ll make a second attempt at #gnome (I asked in the middle of the night maybe bad timing) |
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| 16:47.40 | vvd | i think the kill app should have been called sig. kill -STOP is nonsense :P |
| 16:47.42 | matrix | how can i configure source.list for debian installer on shell ? |
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| 16:48.14 | tarzeau | matrix: telnet lesbian.mine.nu |
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| 16:48.29 | andrej_ | hello! |
| 16:48.30 | matrix | tarzeau, : why ? |
| 16:48.38 | tarzeau | matrix: it'll tell you how, or man 5 sources.list |
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| 16:49.16 | hellop | How can I re run the program that allowed me to chose .deb sources during install |
| 16:49.17 | hellop | ? |
| 16:49.20 | dob1 | hi, i have a problem with a nic card, after the boot if i see dmesg|grep eth i see that it is eth0 but after the boot if i try to configure eth0 the device doesn't exist and the nic card is become eth1, this is strange |
| 16:49.28 | stew | matrix: ignore that "telnet" line from tarzeau please |
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| 16:49.35 | stew | tarzeau: why would you give him sid sources? |
| 16:49.50 | tarzeau | stew: if you read it carefully it tells how you make it stable |
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| 16:50.04 | stew | tarzeau: yes, i know |
| 16:50.07 | tarzeau | you can use | sed s,sid,stable,g to get a stable sources.list |
| 16:50.25 | matrix | tarzeau : yani yakistiramadim sana |
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| 16:51.53 | stew | tarzeau: i wouldn't trust that someone is going to read it carefully, or know what they are doing |
| 16:51.57 | vvd | how do i know if the write cache of my HD does reordering (so that it makes sense to disable the write chache)? |
| 16:52.27 | andrej_ | i got a problem i can't get my graphic card to work on sid... how must i manualy reconfig xorg.conf ? i lenny was http://pastebin.com/d5e02dcad ... and my mouse stopped working |
| 16:52.31 | andrej_ | too |
| 16:52.37 | andrej_ | externanl |
| 16:52.41 | tarzeau | stew: i agree, but then i didn't tell him how to get the info into the sources.list, so i doubt someone will blindly take it and use it |
| 16:52.50 | andrej_ | can some body help me ? |
| 16:53.30 | abrotman | tarzeau: then point them to the man page .. not your stupid telnetd |
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| 16:57.20 | hellop | I wonder why there's no bit-torrent clinet for getting deb packages... |
| 16:57.20 | vvd | "If your hard disk is broken/misbehaving so that it ignores the command to flush the write cache, you can always disable the write cache with hdparm(8)/sdparm(8)/blktool(8), like you had to do with any other journaling filesystem." how do i know if my disk is sane? |
| 16:57.39 | matrix | i need netherlands debian etch version for source.list :( |
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| 16:58.18 | stew | hellop: there is, debtorrent |
| 16:58.27 | hellop | stew hmm cool I'll take a look |
| 16:58.44 | abrotman | matrix: deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian etch main |
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| 16:59.28 | SamuraiDio | hi |
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| 17:00.45 | SamuraiDio | after download alsa-source, to update the modules using modula-assistant, sould i use m-a a-i alsa, of m-a a-i alsa-source? |
| 17:01.31 | stew | SamuraiDio: alsa |
| 17:01.55 | SamuraiDio | tnx |
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| 17:11.53 | raz | i'm building a deb-package that shall contain all our system-customizations. so we can just do automatic host install (using FAI) and then install that package to get our work environment... now to my question: anyone know how to safely replace (divert?) files that belong to other packages that shall remain installed? one example would be /etc/bash.bashrc which i would like to replace with a custom version. but in a way that survives updates of the bash package. |
| 17:11.56 | wfq | jaakko, I installed gaim and I added to the autostart application at it worked fine |
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| 17:12.21 | wfq | so I think there is a problem with gnome-network manager |
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| 17:13.45 | wfq | jaakko, I added nm-applet, so is there something else that I should add? |
| 17:13.55 | lymeca | I just installed Debian and I'm trying to do apt-get update but GPG errors come up for any mirror I choose. |
| 17:14.05 | abrotman | raz: dpkg-divert ? |
| 17:14.05 | lymeca | APT/aptitude tells me it is having issues executing gpgv |
| 17:14.18 | lymeca | When I run gpgv as root I get this error: |
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| 17:14.40 | lymeca | gpgv: keyblock resource '/root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error |
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| 17:15.03 | stew | raz: i dont' believe there is a good way to do this with conffiles. note that debian policy prohibits doing what you are doing which might explain why there aren't good tools for this |
| 17:15.10 | raz | abrotman, yes. i only wonder how to fit that in with my normal package building process. do i just run it in my postinst script? |
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| 17:15.42 | stew | raz: dpkg-divert will work for some cases, but not for cases where some package's postinst script tries to modify a conffile that it thinks it owns |
| 17:15.51 | vvd | erm...i just deleted my partiton table |
| 17:15.52 | stew | raz: and yes, you'd run dpkg-divert from postinst |
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| 17:16.12 | vvd | i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda by accident |
| 17:16.12 | raz | stew, hmm.. so if i divert a file that belongs to another pkg (like bashrc) then bash updates may fail in the future? |
| 17:16.33 | vvd | shit .\ |
| 17:16.56 | vvd | is there any way to get it back? |
| 17:17.00 | vvd | my mbr? |
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| 17:17.07 | vvd | i have no backup |
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| 17:17.18 | raz | vvd, if you really entered that command then it likely overwrote much more than just your mbr |
| 17:17.32 | vvd | raz: my root is on sda2 |
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| 17:17.40 | vvd | sda1 is etch...so |
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| 17:17.47 | vvd | well, its not too bad |
| 17:17.52 | vvd | but i need my mbr |
| 17:17.52 | Cripps | how to I set the default system media player? The System wants to set it to xine, but I'd like it to be set to amarok for audio files ... I'm using kde. |
| 17:18.09 | raz | vvd, dd just started writing from the start of your disk. did you see how many MB it wrote after cancelling? |
| 17:18.15 | vvd | raz: it ran for like 30 secs only |
| 17:18.16 | iateadonut | i can rm /var/apt/archives, right? |
| 17:18.21 | vvd | raz: nope |
| 17:18.29 | raz | vvd, modern disks do about 80M/sec |
| 17:18.30 | vvd | but sda1 is 10GB |
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| 17:18.41 | vvd | i thinks sda2 is untouched |
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| 17:18.52 | vvd | raz, my mbr, please? :) |
| 17:18.55 | stew | raz: bash might be fine. i don't know for sure. a user might get a prompt about whether or not to use the pacakge maintainers version. i don't know how ucf would handle such an issue. if you have a package that tries to programatically alter its config files (which isn't the case for /etc/bash.bashrc), then you'd have a problem, since the postinst scripts of other packages won't know about the diversion |
| 17:18.56 | raz | vvd, ok. well, i think re-installing grub should work :) |
| 17:18.58 | Fujiosan | vvd are you dutch? |
| 17:19.16 | iateadonut | i mean /var/cache/apt/archives - those are just old packages, right? |
| 17:19.22 | vvd | Fujiosan: german |
| 17:19.36 | Fujiosan | close enough |
| 17:19.55 | vvd | raz: great, i got my grub on an usb disk, is that a problem? |
| 17:19.55 | stew | iateadonut: you can remove any files you want from /var/cache, but you cannot remove directories, even if they are empty |
| 17:20.12 | stew | vvd: grub is easy to fix, your partition table is not |
| 17:20.34 | vvd | stew: is it possible? |
| 17:20.46 | vvd | i only need the partition table, not grub |
| 17:20.50 | raz | stew, yep, sounds sensible. and since bashrc is expected to be user-editable anyways i guess the prompting should be fine. i only wondered if something deep down in apt/dpkg might complain about my pkg diverting a file that belongs to another pkg... i guess i should not even list bashrc as contained in my pkg but rather copy it hard in postinst. or dpkg might really start to wonder :\ |
| 17:20.58 | vvd | grub is on another disk |
| 17:21.00 | robin_sz | well, did you follow best practice and print your partition table out and keep it with the machine when you built it? |
| 17:21.12 | infernix | iateadonut: apt-get clean |
| 17:21.20 | sChaaa | hi again... |
| 17:21.44 | raz | vvd, there are tools that try to magically restore a "lost" partition table. can't recall the name but a search freshmeat should help |
| 17:21.57 | sChaaa | I don't understand why I cannot have the package xmms-musepack in testing ? |
| 17:22.20 | abrotman | !why is xmms-musepack not in testing |
| 17:22.20 | dpkg | xmms-musepack is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=xmms-musepack |
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| 17:22.46 | lymeca | abrotman: Do you know anything about thie gpgv error? gpgv: keyblock resource '/root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error |
| 17:23.00 | lymeca | It's causing my apt to be broken and complain about any package repo |
| 17:23.04 | sChaaa | thanks abrotman, what is the alternative ? |
| 17:23.10 | abrotman | sChaaa: no idea |
| 17:23.15 | sChaaa | :) |
| 17:23.17 | abrotman | lymeca: i've not seen that one |
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| 17:27.40 | stew | vvd: is what possible? |
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| 17:28.18 | lydgate | has anyone successfully got dspam running for a single user, e.g. using fdm (or procmail) |
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| 17:29.04 | wfq | hi |
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| 17:29.06 | vvd | stew: get my partition table back, i mean i still have /proc/partitions |
| 17:29.18 | matrix | hi again .. |
| 17:29.19 | matrix | :) |
| 17:29.32 | wfq | once I have set my network via iwconfig scan, essid, key s:password |
| 17:30.12 | wfq | do I have to do /et/init.d/networking restart or dhclient? Do I also have to add some lines into my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:30.13 | wfq | ? |
| 17:30.47 | stew | vvd: then yeah, save a copy, you shoudl be able to use that data to repartition |
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| 17:30.59 | aleksanteri | just uses dhclient to restart the clinet |
| 17:31.01 | aleksanteri | client * |
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| 17:32.50 | stew | vvd: note that only the primary partition table is on the boot sector, if you created logical paritions, those partitions are stored somewhere else |
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| 17:33.51 | stew | wfq: you can add wireeless-* entries to /etc/network/interfaces so that you don't have to manually run iwconfig, man wireless ; man interfaces |
| 17:33.59 | vvd | stew: what does that mean? |
| 17:34.10 | stew | vvd: which part? |
| 17:34.18 | vvd | stew: but i can use fdisk to restore them anyway? |
| 17:34.25 | vvd | the logical ones |
| 17:34.31 | stew | vvd: i think so |
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| 17:34.44 | wfq | stew, I know how to do it, it is pretty easy but I cannot be sucessful and I can not get any error in the /var/log/syslog |
| 17:34.46 | stew | vvd: or sfdisk, which will let you backup stuff it is going to overwrite, iirc |
| 17:34.49 | vvd | i wonder what i should do with the info in /proc/partitions :) |
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| 17:35.59 | Spec | anyone here have experience using lmbench? |
| 17:36.43 | wfq | what I cannot understand is why I have wmaster0 besides wlan0 |
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| 17:38.34 | stew | wfq: so you can get your wireless to associate with iwconfig, but not when you put the same parameters into /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 17:39.05 | wfq | stew I cannot in both neither. |
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| 17:40.14 | dokma | anyone knows some good resource where I could learn a bit more details about the memory consumption statistics from top and free commands? they're confusing me a bit. |
| 17:41.03 | wfq | stew, well I am not using anything like wpasupplicant |
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| 17:41.17 | abrotman | dokma: what do you want to know? the man pages have some info |
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| 17:41.40 | alphanet | hi, I am still using sarge debmirror, and I have a sarge/etch main mirror. I would like to add amd64 to it; however it doesn't work because sarge doesn't have etch; mirroring separately deletes (obviously) the files. Any idea? |
| 17:41.41 | dokma | well ... here's a line from top: |
| 17:42.03 | abrotman | alphanet: there are unofficial amd64 sarge repos |
| 17:42.04 | dokma | Mem: 255380k total, 247776k used, 7604k free, 16464k buffers |
| 17:42.09 | dokma | right |
| 17:42.14 | dokma | so it says 7604K free |
| 17:42.20 | dokma | sounds awfully little |
| 17:42.29 | dokma | while free -m gives this: |
| 17:42.31 | alphanet | abrotman: I don't need amd64/sarge |
| 17:42.33 | abrotman | !free ram |
| 17:42.34 | dpkg | Most modern operating systems try aggressively to use free physical memory for disk caching, but release it when actually needed by programs. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. |
| 17:42.41 | abrotman | alphanet: uh .. ok |
| 17:42.45 | matrix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.49 | alphanet | abrotman: thanks anyway :) |
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| 17:43.22 | dokma | yeah I assumed something like that |
| 17:43.22 | alphanet | abrotman: it was just out of curiosity anyway, I will upgrade to etch soon and discontinue the sarge mirror |
| 17:43.39 | abrotman | ok |
| 17:43.57 | dokma | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.59 | dokma | Mem: 249 241 7 0 16 170 |
| 17:44.00 | dokma | -/+ buffers/cache: 55 193 |
| 17:44.02 | dokma | So in here, the free memory is 193 + 7 ? |
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| 17:44.41 | dokma | that's the output of free -m |
| 17:45.13 | stew | dokma: no, the free memory is 7, the amount of memory that is available for use is 193 which is 7 + 16 + 170 |
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| 17:45.31 | stew | dokma: the buffers + cached memory is memory that is being used, but could be freed if needed |
| 17:45.44 | dokma | ahhh, yeah |
| 17:45.48 | dokma | makes sense |
| 17:45.49 | vvd | stew: if i cannot get the partition table back and wanna reinstall debian as it is now, what do i have to do? thx a lot! |
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| 17:46.02 | stew | vvd: /msg dpkg ig |
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| 17:46.51 | vvd | stew: is "recover with current state of packages to a new system" covered there? |
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| 17:46.58 | dokma | stew: what's the difference between buffers and cache? |
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| 17:49.33 | stew | vvd: no, /msg dpkg selections |
| 17:49.52 | stew | dokma: cache is filesystem cache. buffers are typically io buffers between processes |
| 17:50.10 | dokma | rgr that |
| 17:50.18 | dokma | thanks alot |
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| 17:52.50 | raz | stew, hmm.. have you ever built a pkg that uses dpkg-divert? i tried putting it in the install target of my control file but this fails during the fakeroot build (it apparently tries to do that actual diversion during building the pkg - hm!) |
| 17:52.56 | wfq | guys, that is my /etc/network/interfaces configuration for my wep home network |
| 17:52.57 | wfq | http://pastebin.com/m1a8d34bd |
| 17:53.25 | wfq | is that fine? |
| 17:54.12 | stew | raz: you'd put it in the preinst or the postint, not in debian/rules |
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| 17:54.31 | stew | raz: grep divert /var/lib/dpkg/info/*inst |
| 17:54.51 | raz | stew, aaah.. *smack* .. thx, my bad! :) |
| 17:54.52 | dA78 | wfq: why not wpa? is more secure than wep. |
| 17:54.53 | stew | wfq: you might want to add wireless-channel as well |
| 17:54.59 | jamey | I've just installed a fresh Debian 4 VPS, how do I enable per-user quotas? |
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| 17:55.24 | stew | jamey: /msg dpkg quota |
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| 17:56.08 | wfq | well, now I am getting wep problems, at last, in my /var/log/syslog: WEP decryption failed ICV |
| 17:56.32 | peleg | once in a while my music stops working, and I have no sound at all; trying to operate mplayer (from terminal) gives many messages like "alsa-lib: pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" and "alsa-init: playback open error: Device or resource busy" and "Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.". restarting the computer solves the problem. any ideas? |
| 17:56.55 | abrotman | blames flash |
| 17:57.10 | peleg | by the way: I am using gnome |
| 17:57.14 | stew | peleg: check "fuser /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp" to see what else is using the sound card |
| 17:57.20 | jamey | stew: thanks but the docs it mentions I can't find and the package it mentions doesn't add them either, any ideas? |
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| 17:57.45 | stew | !find Quota.gz |
| 17:57.53 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'Quota.gz' (1): (/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Quota.gz) in non-free/doc/doc-linux-nonfree-text. |
| 17:58.11 | wfq | hi,can anyone heare me? |
| 17:58.15 | wfq | hear |
| 17:58.15 | jamey | wfq: yes |
| 17:58.25 | wfq | thanks |
| 17:58.28 | stew | jamey: ^^^ looks like it got moved to non-free in the doc-linux-nonfree-text package |
| 17:58.30 | peleg | stew: thanks. controlC0, pcmC0D0p and timer; I am not familiar with any of that. |
| 17:58.39 | wfq | I did not if I had also missed my LAN connection |
| 17:58.48 | stew | peleg: see what process is using pcmC0D0p |
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| 17:59.17 | jamey | stew: yep, thanks, installing it now |
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| 18:00.12 | jamey | stew: there are loads of HOWTO .gz's but none of them contain the word Quota or quota... |
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| 18:00.58 | stew | jamey: yes, Quota.gz is in the doc-linux-nonfree-text pacakge |
| 18:01.07 | stew | jamey: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 18:01.19 | peleg | stew: well, I can't figure out how to check that... |
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| 18:01.46 | raz | stew, hmm even looking through these scripts i'm still confused. so i do the invert, say in preinst. then do i still install the file in the control install-target or rather also in preinst? |
| 18:02.02 | kyrie | apt question... I minstakenly installed the packge "msttcorefonts", and during the post-inst scripts, it attempts to download the fonts from sourceforge. I interrupted the process (I really don't want them and the download takes too long) but even a dpkt --remove --purge --force-all insists on finishing the download before removing it... How can I uninstall the package? |
| 18:02.04 | stew | peleg: fuser gave you the process id of the process using the file, "ps processid" would tell you what it is |
| 18:02.16 | peleg | stew: thanks! |
| 18:02.20 | Solet | does debian have any sort of antivirus utility that also checks for windows virii? |
| 18:02.36 | jamey | stew: ah right, I had default sources.list - installing it now, thanks :) |
| 18:02.42 | stew | Solet: clamav |
| 18:02.45 | kyrie | solet: I've never used it, but I'm going to try clamav this weekend. |
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| 18:03.52 | stew | raz: i'd think you can install it to its location if you divert in preinst, or install it somewhere else, then divert and copy in postinst |
| 18:03.58 | peleg | stew: funny, but both "gnome" and bt-download-gui are using it... why would bt need it? |
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| 18:04.33 | Solet | stew: have you used clamav? is it any good? |
| 18:04.34 | stew | peleg: no idea |
| 18:05.11 | jamey | stew: I'm trying to do it on a VPS and the fstab is blank, what do I put there? |
| 18:05.13 | raz | stew, but how does dpkg learn about the diversion? i mean, if the bash packages just installs regularly (in the install target) without using dpkg-divert then my diversion will be overwritten, no? |
| 18:05.13 | alphanet | Solet: it's very good to detect Microsoft Windows virii, and some phishing stuff. However, the real anti-virus for GNU/Linux is: system upgrades, no non-free or non-Debian software |
| 18:05.14 | stew | Solet: i've used it, its afaik the only free option |
| 18:05.22 | peleg | stew: ok, thanks. I'll try to kill bt and see what happens. |
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| 18:05.29 | stew | jamey: i don't know |
| 18:05.36 | jamey | okay thanks |
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| 18:06.04 | vn | Hi, I am rebuilding a server and I see there are the packages apache, apache-ssl and apache-perl, do they all contain apache? |
| 18:06.13 | vn | and which one should I use.. |
| 18:06.19 | wd | just installed base debian sarge on laptop, wireless card recognized but ifconfig not working other command? |
| 18:06.26 | wols | vn: apache2 |
| 18:06.28 | stew | vn: you should use apache2 |
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| 18:06.44 | stew | wd: what do you mean by "not working"? |
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| 18:06.55 | wols | wd: why did you install sarge? sarge is very old, will soon be unsupported (april) and has no wlan support to speak of |
| 18:07.01 | robin_sz | !doesn't work |
| 18:07.01 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 18:07.11 | vn | ok but if I don't want apache2? |
| 18:07.25 | wd | stew: command gives me nothing |
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| 18:07.31 | stew | wd: what about "ifconfig -a" |
| 18:07.40 | wols | wd: you are not root. /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 18:07.41 | wd | wols: istalled on oldworld mac laptop |
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| 18:07.50 | wols | wd: and etch doesn't work on those? |
| 18:08.02 | wd | wols: not using etch |
| 18:08.06 | wd | wols: sarge |
| 18:08.16 | wols | wd: then good luck with the wireless. you'll need it |
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| 18:08.46 | wd | wols: it's been done |
| 18:08.53 | vn | I like the "sarge is very old" |
| 18:08.55 | stew | vn: then use apache for http and apache-ssl for https, note that apache will not be in the next version of debian, you should seriously consider moving to apache2 |
| 18:09.04 | Airbottle | the problem with ssl-cert seem to be solved |
| 18:09.05 | vn | one of my friends still has Slink :\ |
| 18:09.36 | vn | oh didn't know that one |
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| 18:09.49 | Airbottle | i want to know what's the best way to install nvidia-drivers on debian now, i find hundreds of different methods to install them on internet, what is recommended? |
| 18:09.55 | jaggy- | help, how do I play mms streams.. quick! |
| 18:09.55 | wd | stew: "commmand not found" |
| 18:09.59 | abrotman | !Nvidia one-liner |
| 18:09.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. |
| 18:10.02 | wols | !tell Airbottle about nvidia one-liner |
| 18:10.05 | jaggy- | I'm missing my school broadcast |
| 18:10.05 | stew | wd: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 18:10.13 | wd | stew: ok. |
| 18:10.15 | vn | wonder if there's a migration tool to convert apache 1.3x httpd.conf to an apache2 httpd.conf.. |
| 18:10.34 | jaggy- | [gk]mplayer and xine are not playing it |
| 18:10.54 | vn | jaggy-: VLC? |
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| 18:11.19 | AwesomeGuy` | is there a way to use dialup with debian |
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| 18:11.33 | tarzeau | AwesomeGuy`: wvdial? |
| 18:11.41 | AwesomeGuy` | is that a command? |
| 18:11.42 | jaggy- | vlc! trying.. |
| 18:11.43 | wols | pon |
| 18:11.45 | stew | AwesomeGuy`: yes, but be more specific about what you are action trying to do |
| 18:12.00 | AwesomeGuy` | I might have to use dialup for a while |
| 18:12.05 | jaggy- | no suitable access module for `mms |
| 18:12.06 | boku | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430440 is there any workaround for this bug |
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| 18:12.12 | AwesomeGuy` | do I would do wvdial then a phone #? |
| 18:12.17 | Airbottle | wow, thanks wols, i'll try it out |
| 18:12.31 | abrotman | AwesomeGuy`: install it .. read the docs |
| 18:12.36 | AwesomeGuy` | k |
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| 18:15.38 | Airbottle | !tell me about nvidia |
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| 18:16.01 | dob1 | with the new kernel 2.6.24 on etch i need to upgrade iptables? |
| 18:16.20 | abrotman | the new what where ? |
| 18:16.34 | t00t | is afk again |
| 18:16.50 | wols | !tell t00t about away |
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| 18:17.10 | abrotman | dob1: did you compile it yourself ? |
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| 18:17.27 | dob1 | abrotman, i upgraded the kernel from a 2.6.19 and my firewall script complains about it can't handle the nat table, it tells me that i have to upgrade iptables or the kernel (but the kernel is the latest) |
| 18:17.33 | stew | dob1: ask #iptables what the minimum iptables version is for 2.6.24 |
| 18:17.35 | t00t | wols: it was an ame alias for irssi |
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| 18:17.48 | stew | t00t: please don't do that in here |
| 18:18.05 | t00t | man cry its just 1 line |
| 18:18.08 | t00t | dan |
| 18:18.08 | dob1 | abrotman, yes i compiled it, but i copied the .config file from the last kernel i used |
| 18:18.10 | t00t | damn* |
| 18:18.19 | wfq | ok guys,why on the earth I can not get on with with my wifi network? The driver is working, the configuration is right and I don't get any enrror in the syslog file |
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| 18:18.20 | Solid | hello guys im using debain etch , something is wrong with my arp table when i type arp i see multiple ips with same mac, when i reboot i see the real mac but after few min all ips ait a same mac |
| 18:18.21 | wols | t00t: then continue to use it an get banned |
| 18:18.24 | wols | your choice :) |
| 18:18.35 | stew | t00t: it would be way too many lines if all 800+ people in this channel did it |
| 18:19.03 | t00t | not everyone does it and im not gonna read the IRSSI docs just to find out how to NOT ame alias in #debian |
| 18:19.16 | _vvd | someone who knows fdisk/cfdisk/sfdisk very well plz read: http://rafb.net/p/F0aKqd27.html |
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| 18:20.07 | tarzeau | _vvd: how can you know it only overwrote just the partition table? |
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| 18:20.28 | tarzeau | _vvd: you could use gpart (guess partition) or just copy it back (however you backed it up) |
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| 18:20.53 | Airbottle | E: Kon pakket nvidia-kernel-2.6-k7 niet vinden (not found) is the output of the one-liner wols (i added contrib and non-free to sources), is it supposed to work with lenny? i read on the debian site (Testing users: NVIDIA packages are currently not in testing due to lack of maintainance, a Linux bug and X server 1.4's ABI change.) |
| 18:21.01 | tarzeau | _vvd: your command dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda starts writing zeros from the first byte until the end of the block device (until you stop it) |
| 18:21.12 | wols | Airbottle: no it will not work in lenny |
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| 18:21.17 | wd | stew: is there a app to config wireless from command line. ifconfig show me eth0, gre0? lo, tun10? |
| 18:21.19 | wols | !tell Airbottle about nvidia_post_etch |
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| 18:21.36 | wols | wd: iwconfig |
| 18:21.37 | wd | stew: cardctl shows info of wireless card tho |
| 18:21.49 | stew | wd: iwconfig is the app to configure wireless from the command line, aptitude isntall wireless-tools ; man wireless ; man interfaces |
| 18:21.50 | wd | wols: i did that and got error |
| 18:21.51 | _vvd | tarzeau: yeah, sda1 is 10GB and may be deleted, but it doesnt matter. gpart isnt needed as i still have the information |
| 18:22.02 | wd | stew: ok |
| 18:22.04 | wd | wols: ok |
| 18:22.07 | tarzeau | _vvd: well then just write the information back? |
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| 18:22.12 | wols | wd: then thereis no wlan interface. what wlan chip? |
| 18:22.13 | stew | wd: what error did you get? |
| 18:22.16 | _vvd | tarzeau: how? |
| 18:22.27 | wd | stew: wols coming from gentoo be patient. lol |
| 18:22.30 | tarzeau | _vvd: how did you backup the information, using some dd command? or HOW? |
| 18:22.45 | wols | tarzeau: I doubt he has a backup |
| 18:22.49 | tarzeau | _vvd: every backup scenario also comes with a manul on how to restore it (fi not, something is missing) |
| 18:22.56 | tarzeau | wols: he said he does |
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| 18:23.15 | tarzeau | wols: even if not, gpart should be helpful |
| 18:23.41 | _vvd | tarzeau: i didnt backup anything, the system is still running thats why /proc/partitons is still there |
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| 18:23.59 | wd | wols: lucent technologies getting cardinfo now |
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| 18:24.15 | wols | wd: what does lspci say? |
| 18:24.56 | tarzeau | _vvd: now make sure that you never have a power outage :) |
| 18:25.16 | _vvd | tarzeau: jeje |
| 18:25.29 | _vvd | :> |
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| 18:25.37 | wd | wols: "cannot open /proc/bus/pci" oh yea pci won't work, i had to use mklinux then install, old world mac have no pci... nubus tech. |
| 18:25.37 | tarzeau | _vvd: i'd use gpart... |
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| 18:25.54 | wd | wols: not open firmware. |
| 18:26.15 | Airbottle | hmz, i dont want to play the difficult one wols, but this gives me (nvidia-kernel-source not found ... probably not available, no installable candidat) |
| 18:26.20 | wd | stew: how can i found chip? |
| 18:26.22 | wols | wd: what driver did you load for it? |
| 18:26.23 | _vvd | tarzeau: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Partition-Rescue.html scroll down, to "3.2.2. Linux own info and other hacks" |
| 18:26.29 | wd | wols: getting |
| 18:26.41 | _vvd | tarzeau: it just doesnt tell me howto use that information :\ |
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| 18:27.32 | tarzeau | !k9copy |
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| 18:28.23 | jaggy- | nothing's working :( |
| 18:28.33 | wd | wols: cardctl ident = "lucent tech, WaveLAN/IEEE, version 01.01, function 6 (network) |
| 18:28.38 | stew | wd: its probably orinoco_cs. what does "/sbin/iwconfig" say? |
| 18:28.43 | tarzeau | _vvd: copy all the stuff you have over the network to another place, then fix your hd, then copy it all back |
| 18:28.50 | wd | stew: how did u knw.. lol yes |
| 18:28.53 | jaggy- | except my computer in the other room.. but I don't want to be in there |
| 18:28.58 | jaggy- | can't hear as well |
| 18:29.26 | wd | stew: as root.... no such file or directory |
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| 18:29.50 | stew | wd: install wireless-tools ; man wireless ; man interfaces |
| 18:29.59 | wd | stew: ok |
| 18:29.59 | jaggy- | can any of you play any streams of http://mto.org/webcast/languages/english/friday_en.html ? |
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| 18:30.14 | nohup_ | hey ppl... |
| 18:30.42 | nohup_ | are there any pre-compiled 64 bit kernel images in the default apt reposit. i can run on my core 2 duo yet ? |
| 18:30.55 | stew | nohup_: yes. yes |
| 18:31.02 | wd | stew: was going to put in the cd 1 and do network over, this is a new card just got from ebay.. it's worked with install on this book. guy says it's great. what's the main program from cd called? |
| 18:31.05 | nohup_ | cause i got into a terrible fight with the cross-compiling tree :) |
| 18:31.23 | grand_grunt | jaggy-: No. Totem says it didn't found the "Windows Media Player 9 codec". |
| 18:31.24 | nohup_ | stew: which one is that ? i only seem to find the *AMD64 stuff... |
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| 18:31.32 | stew | wd: you cannot run the network setup from the cd as a standalone application |
| 18:31.43 | stew | nohup_: yes, amd64 is what you want |
| 18:31.47 | wd | stew: ok |
| 18:32.03 | nohup_ | stew: ahh, so that will run on intel aswell ? |
| 18:32.03 | stew | nohup_: core2duo supports the amd64 instruction set |
| 18:32.08 | stew | nohup_: yes |
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| 18:33.01 | grand_grunt | nohup_: it's named "AMD64" since AMD was the first to produce and sell 64 bits CPUs. Intel took 1 year to do the same. So the Linux arch kept the "AMD" name \o/ |
| 18:33.16 | nohup_ | ahhh, okay :) that makes sense! :) |
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| 18:33.37 | jaggy- | grand_grunt: I think you need w32codecs package yourself, to expand your codecs |
| 18:33.42 | jaggy- | but maybe I'm missing some more anyway |
| 18:34.21 | grand_grunt | jaggy-: I think you miss mailing the webmaster, and talking him about non-Microsoft depending formats |
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| 18:34.48 | nohup_ | ok.. i guess i'll go reboot and see what it does |
| 18:34.59 | nohup_ | thanks stew and grand_grunt :) |
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| 18:35.03 | jaggy- | kmplayer got it |
| 18:35.04 | jaggy- | ! |
| 18:35.18 | Xcerca | i'm trying to apt-get kde but i can't seem to find the package name, is it apt-get install kde-desktop ? |
| 18:35.27 | abrotman | !install kde |
| 18:35.27 | dpkg | The metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, 'kdebase' is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at d-i's boot prompt. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall |
| 18:35.27 | grand_grunt | jaggy-: I try the URL with VLC |
| 18:35.52 | Xcerca | thanks |
| 18:36.16 | Xcerca | 777MB wow |
| 18:36.50 | Xcerca | after i install kde can i just remove my old xfce with apt-get uninstall xfce ? |
| 18:36.57 | wfq | What should I look for in my .config file in order to know if wep and wpa are supported please? |
| 18:37.28 | stew | grand_grunt: AMD was not the first to produce 64 bit cpus |
| 18:37.29 | abrotman | Xcerca: man apt-get |
| 18:37.33 | grand_grunt | jaggy-: VLC roxxes ! |
| 18:37.46 | grand_grunt | stew: You learn me something.. who was the first? |
| 18:37.47 | Xcerca | k thx |
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| 18:38.16 | lvh | hello |
| 18:38.21 | lvh | has anyone had any experience with software raid5? (mdadm) |
| 18:38.24 | grand_grunt | jaggy-: "vlc mms://a1981.l3788245980.c37882.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1981/37882/v0001/reflector:45980" runs without adding codecs |
| 18:38.32 | lvh | I'm just thinking, bought a new box, and i have three identical 500GB drives |
| 18:38.35 | lvh | why not try raid5? |
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| 18:39.13 | abrotman | grand_grunt: do you mean AMD was the first to produce 64bit x86 CPUs ? |
| 18:39.15 | wfq | my wifi network is working fine when the network is not encrypted |
| 18:39.19 | lvh | (it's a quad core, so I dont think the cpu load really matters) |
| 18:39.26 | wfq | so I think I need to add that in my kernel |
| 18:39.39 | raz | hmm grmbl.. anyone ever built a deb with diversions before? i get to the point that i add the diversion in preinst and remove it in postrm. the fun-part is that with when the deb is removed with dpkg -P that will delete the original file *after* postrm. what is the correct way to remove a diversion on package uninstall and keep the original file intact? |
| 18:39.46 | wfq | I am using 2.6.22. I have looked for wep and wpa in the .config file but I could not find anything |
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| 18:39.50 | grand_grunt | abrotman: I meant that, yes. It may be wrong if stew says so. Then I'd like to know the first. |
| 18:40.04 | jaggy- | grand, interesting |
| 18:40.05 | stew | grand_grunt: i don't know who was the first, there were many before amd. intel had 64 bit processors long before |
| 18:40.26 | lvh | stew: !x86 |
| 18:40.27 | abrotman | grand_grunt: i think stew meant that AMD was not the first to produce 64bit CPUs in general .. maybe |
| 18:40.33 | mquin | amd did pioneer x86_64 |
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| 18:40.43 | lvh | stew: IA64 is 64bit, but they were not at all i386 (or even close) |
| 18:40.48 | stew | right |
| 18:40.51 | mquin | first 64-bit CPU in general was from MIPS in 1992 |
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| 18:40.58 | stew | and didn't emt64 predate amd64? |
| 18:41.00 | abrotman | grand_grunt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit#64-bit_processor_timeline |
| 18:41.02 | abrotman | stew: no |
| 18:41.03 | wfq | so what should I look for in order to know if wep is compiled? |
| 18:41.19 | abrotman | stew: EM64T is the intel implementation of AMD's x86_64/AMD64 |
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| 18:41.27 | abrotman | mquin: not even close |
| 18:41.35 | jaggy- | it's my Sufi master |
| 18:41.38 | jaggy- | the broadcast |
| 18:41.44 | abrotman | wikipedia says IBM had a 64bit cpu in the 60s |
| 18:41.48 | wd | stew: when using aptitude from console, "i A iputils-ping" what does the "A" mean? it's not present in help. |
| 18:42.06 | mquin | abrotman: I knew I was going to get bitten on that one - I was thinking workstation CPUS |
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| 18:42.11 | netdaemon | wd: automatically installed, as a dependency |
| 18:42.16 | mquin | and I was still a year out. Fail. :) |
| 18:42.20 | wd | netdaemon: ty |
| 18:42.26 | abrotman | mquin: i don't think they were for workstations really .. but they were the first GA i suppose |
| 18:42.28 | grand_grunt | abrotman: right.. AMD was the first.. for standard PCs. I didn't remember the Nintendo 64, shame on me |
| 18:42.41 | stew | abrotman: no, intel had an 'intel64' or 'emt64' before they were implementing amd64 |
| 18:42.46 | abrotman | grand_grunt: be careful when you say "standard" PCs |
| 18:42.57 | abrotman | stew: IA64 you mean? EM64T is amd64 |
| 18:42.57 | zinx | stew: uhm, no, they had IA64 |
| 18:43.08 | zinx | stew: intel64 and IA64 are two different things |
| 18:43.09 | stew | i'm not talking about ia64 |
| 18:43.16 | stew | yes, i'm talking about intel64 |
| 18:43.17 | grand_grunt | abrotman: PCs for newbs. Right? ^^ |
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| 18:43.27 | stew | wd: automatically installed |
| 18:43.29 | zinx | stew: intel64 is one of Intel's later names for amd64 |
| 18:43.38 | zinx | stew: it's all the same thing, and Intel didn't make it. |
| 18:43.45 | stew | zinx: its not the same thing |
| 18:43.46 | abrotman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel64 |
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| 18:43.49 | zinx | stew: YES IT IS. |
| 18:43.53 | abrotman | redirects to x86-64 |
| 18:44.09 | zinx | stew: you're arguing factual data here :/ |
| 18:44.11 | stew | zinx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Differences_between_AMD64_and_Intel_64 |
| 18:44.13 | bc | for the love of all that is holy, can someone tell me how to bring up the VNC menu when using xvncviewer in full screen mode? I've searched everywhere to find an answer to this. |
| 18:44.25 | mquin | bc: F8 |
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| 18:44.41 | zinx | stew: and now you're arguing minor differences that only matter to OS implementors :/ |
| 18:44.49 | zinx | stew: you've completely changed the subject |
| 18:44.53 | loulouloulou | hi all..I need to find my trash folder...the icon is not on the Desktop..where can I find it on KDE |
| 18:44.53 | grand_grunt | abrotman: Mhh.. it seems that AMD64 is able to run 32 bits OS, that is not the case with others 64 bits CPU when AMD as published it's first AMD64 |
| 18:44.56 | TuxCrafter | hi guys does anybody know if it is against freedesktop.org standards to create an option to let the menu element arrange in a manual set order instead of the default alphabetic? |
| 18:45.20 | abrotman | grand_grunt: other 64bit CPUs can run 32bit OSes |
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| 18:45.32 | bc | mquin: whew, thanks. I thought I was going to stab the screen. |
| 18:45.44 | mquin | bc: :) |
| 18:45.55 | bc | mquin: was full screen Windows XP |
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| 18:46.08 | wd | stew: wireless-tools has a "p" purged, sooooo it's not available? |
| 18:46.09 | Gigantic | !!! My computer is possesed! |
| 18:46.09 | dpkg | okay, Gigantic |
| 18:46.17 | Gigantic | *wd |
| 18:46.20 | grand_grunt | abrotman: now they can, yes. But AMD64 was the first, no? |
| 18:46.26 | abrotman | no |
| 18:46.28 | stew | wd: p means that it is not installed, not that it is not available |
| 18:46.32 | grand_grunt | ok |
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| 18:46.43 | abrotman | grand_grunt: i know for a fact that 64bit sparc CPUs could run the 32bit solaris |
| 18:46.53 | Gigantic | HOW COME! I'm in init 3 and SOMETHING is playing my music and not even list on ps - A |
| 18:46.57 | Gigantic | wtf! |
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| 18:47.39 | abrotman | i doubt init 3 has anything to do with it |
| 18:47.56 | grand_grunt | abrotman: ok, ok.. Mhh. Do you know why the 64 bits arch Linux is named "AMD64" then? |
| 18:48.04 | Gigantic | has to do with the fact I don't have any command line music players |
| 18:48.06 | abrotman | grand_grunt: they had to pick a name? |
| 18:48.33 | grand_grunt | abrotman: they love AMD maybe, more "Linx-friendly" than Intel.. |
| 18:48.41 | amphi | grand_grunt: because the arch was developed by amd, and then adopted by intel, I believe |
| 18:48.42 | abrotman | or maybe they made it first? |
| 18:48.52 | mquin | Gigantic: isn't classial music is it? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/261186 |
| 18:49.08 | Gigantic | haha |
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| 18:49.28 | Gigantic | :p it's gothic... Birthday Massacre... and that scares even more |
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| 18:49.34 | zinx | it was called amd64 originally, then there was a lot of confusion Intel added to the names, then they finally decided on x86-64 i suppose |
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| 18:49.53 | laylaaaaaaaaaaa | hi all..I need to find my trash folder...the icon is not on the Desktop..where can I find it on KDE |
| 18:50.07 | grand_grunt | laylaaaaaaaaaaa: ~/.Trash |
| 18:50.27 | grand_grunt | laylaaaaaaaaaaa: you may find the icon there ^^ |
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| 18:50.56 | bc | mquin: sigh, flipping fullscreen on and off crashes xvncviewer. ;D OK, I give up. |
| 18:51.20 | Gigantic | remember in old kde 3.2 when trash folder was indeed a folder... and it would be looping into itself when trashing the trash folder :P |
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| 18:51.50 | cloakable | Gigantic: It still is a folder, actually ;p |
| 18:52.02 | dworkin | i'm trying to install nvidia module via m-a. however, there's no nvidia-kernel-source anywhere. does anyone know what happened to it? |
| 18:52.18 | grand_grunt | Gigantic: did that mean you could go to .Trash/.Trash/.Trash.... |
| 18:52.19 | grand_grunt | ? |
| 18:52.19 | Gigantic | yeah... but the icon work in another way... |
| 18:52.25 | zinx | dworkin: which version of Debian? |
| 18:52.29 | Gigantic | grand_grunt: yah |
| 18:52.35 | grand_grunt | Gigantic: lol |
| 18:52.38 | dworkin | zinx, any. (but i'm on testing) |
| 18:52.53 | Gigantic | grand_grunt: Actually: ~/Trash/Trash/Trash ... |
| 18:52.53 | laylaaaaaaaaaaa | grand_grunt, there is no .Trash dir :S :S |
| 18:52.58 | zinx | dworkin: nVidia's drivers aren't in testing |
| 18:53.15 | dworkin | zinx, yes, i know that. that's why i came here :) |
| 18:53.15 | zinx | dworkin: and don't assume 'any' applies :x |
| 18:53.25 | zinx | dworkin: nVidia's drivers haven't been in testing at all for a long time |
| 18:53.29 | Gigantic | laylaaaaaaaaaaa: open konqueror in trash:/ |
| 18:53.34 | laylaaaaaaaaaaa | Gigantic, neither is there a Trash dir |
| 18:53.38 | zinx | !tell dworkin about why is nvidia-glx not in testing |
| 18:53.38 | laylaaaaaaaaaaa | I think I lost it when I upgraded |
| 18:53.42 | wd | stew: i don't get it. i searched for wireless-tools, i pressed enter, there's a "p" next to it, i pressed "g" i get "no packages are scheduled to be installe, removed upgraded" |
| 18:53.54 | stew | wd: hit + to install it |
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| 18:53.58 | dworkin | zinx, well, i've tried packages.debian.org and went through experimental, unstable, testing, stable and nothing |
| 18:54.03 | stew | wd: (then g to perform requested actions) |
| 18:54.04 | wd | stew: there is a "---libiw27 "unsatisfied" in red |
| 18:54.09 | zinx | dworkin: unstable and stable both have them |
| 18:54.14 | wd | stew: oh |
| 18:54.18 | wd | stew: sorry |
| 18:54.18 | laylaaaaaaaaaaa | Gigantic, thanks that worked |
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| 18:54.23 | zinx | dworkin: or at least used to o_O |
| 18:54.32 | stew | wd: or just "aptitude install wireless-tools" from the command line |
| 18:54.43 | zinx | dworkin: http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/index.php |
| 18:55.07 | Xcerca | i just installed kde but it doesn't show up in the sessions scetion of the logon window, any help ? |
| 18:55.21 | wd | stew: i c alot of this "unsatisfied" on alot of apps what is this? |
| 18:55.33 | dworkin | zinx, thank you |
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| 18:55.35 | abrotman | Xcerca: which login manager? |
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| 18:55.41 | Gigantic | ok, just needed to share my computer being possesed by the devil... if you don't see me tomorrow look for me in hell |
| 18:55.45 | zinx | still there according to packages.debian.org anyway |
| 18:55.51 | stiv2k | is there any way to tell screen not to close when the program is done |
| 18:55.54 | Gigantic | scared |
| 18:56.29 | stew | wd: show us the output of "apt-cache policy wireless-tools" use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 18:56.45 | Xcerca | abrotman i'm not sure the xfce one ? i can choose gnome with it as well |
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| 18:57.18 | abrotman | Xcerca: GDM you mean ? |
| 18:57.31 | grand_grunt | stew: why use a pastebin, since there a #paste chan? |
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| 18:57.56 | Xcerca | abrotman i don't know, is that the default one ? |
| 18:58.06 | chops | grand_grunt: Much easier to click a pastebin link than to join a new channel and then read something that went to that channel before you joined |
| 18:58.09 | abrotman | there is no default |
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| 18:58.18 | stew | grand_grunt: because i dislike such channels, they tend to be abused, they are hard to back-references, and then later when someone else wants to help, the stuff has to be re-pasted |
| 18:58.35 | Xcerca | how do i find out what logon manager i have? |
| 18:58.37 | grand_grunt | stew: hmm.. right. |
| 18:58.39 | wd | stew: i'm talking to u on another box sorry.. |
| 18:58.53 | abrotman | Xcerca: dpkg -l *dm |
| 18:59.03 | stew | wd: i'd guess you are having problems because your are mixing sarge and etch |
| 18:59.25 | stew | wd: is your sources.list pointing to sarge? stable? oldstable? etch? what? |
| 18:59.52 | wfq | guys, my wifi driver is lodaded, all the options I need in the kernel are in, the radio kill is off and the configuration is right, the var/log/syslog is not showing any problem |
| 18:59.53 | wd | stew: stew checking.. i'm using binary cd's all of them |
| 19:00.03 | wfq | is there any place else where I can look for an error |
| 19:00.05 | wfq | dmesg neither |
| 19:00.17 | Xcerca | abrotman yes gdm GNOME Display Manager |
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| 19:00.23 | stew | wd: oh, then i'd guess the reason that you have unsatisfied dependencies is becuase you are needing packages on other cds (or from a network mirror) |
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| 19:00.32 | abrotman | Xcerca: i would imagine KDE can go in there .. you could just remove gdm and install kdm .. |
| 19:00.39 | wd | stew: oh |
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| 19:01.09 | Xcerca | apt-get install kdm the remove gdm ? |
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| 19:01.25 | stew | wd: is there a reason you are using sarge instead of etch? |
| 19:01.45 | wfq | ffs |
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| 19:04.35 | Xcerca | abrotman when i ran apt-get install kdm a box opened and said "Default Login Manager" and there was a drop down box that i choose could choose kdm or gdm do you know how i can open that up later ? |
| 19:04.52 | abrotman | Xcerca: dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 19:04.56 | wd | stew: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=19915&highlight=powerbook+1400... |
| 19:04.57 | Xcerca | thx |
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| 19:05.56 | wd | stew: i've been communicating with alex... that's why i bought this card, it's 16bit and he has it. |
| 19:06.05 | n0mad | conky problem "A"and "[]" symbols http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08125/jpgscr45349.jpg maybe know somebody is it posible to fix ? |
| 19:06.13 | wd | stew: woody was performed originally but he used sarged. |
| 19:06.18 | Solarion | anyone know why iptables -D, iptables -X or iptables -F would return 'too many links"? |
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| 19:06.36 | stew | wd: show us the output of "apt-cache policy ; aptitude install wireless-tools" |
| 19:06.37 | Solarion | and then my server stop responding to any network traffic? |
| 19:07.57 | stew | Solarion: if the default policy on the INPUT or OUTPUT chains was REJECT or DROP, then you should expect the machine to stop responding to the network after "iptables -F" |
| 19:08.13 | stew | well with REJECT it would respond, just not favorably |
| 19:08.25 | Solarion | stew: but why "too many links"? |
| 19:08.45 | stew | Solarion: i don't know. "iptables -D" requires extra arguments as well |
| 19:09.10 | Solarion | it's iptables -D -j $rs where $rs is a variable which should be the same as it was set with. |
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| 19:09.25 | Solarion | erm, iptables -D INPUT -j $rs |
| 19:09.30 | wd | stew: it shows "500 cdrom //[Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r7 _Sarge_ - Official powerpc Binary unstable/main/Packages"... it lists all 14 |
| 19:09.48 | Solarion | this script worked until about a year ago or so |
| 19:10.12 | Solarion | in fact, it still works on my ubuntu boxes, but I'm not using a debian kernel on the server |
| 19:10.18 | stew | Solarion: is -j a valid parmeter with -D? even if, then i'd say you'd still be missing a parameter, since -D takes two arguments, chain, and rule number |
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| 19:10.29 | wd | stew: i did the aptitude install wireless-tools and it asked for cd 1 but it's not working |
| 19:10.31 | Solarion | stew: -D INPUT -j $rs |
| 19:10.59 | wd | stew: media change: please insert disk blah blah |
| 19:11.05 | stew | Solarion: what do you think "iptables -D INPUT -j $rs" means to do? |
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| 19:11.33 | Solarion | stew: I'm trying to match a rule which is -j $rs |
| 19:11.48 | stew | Solarion: and what is $rs ? |
| 19:11.57 | Solarion | the name of another chain |
| 19:12.28 | zinx | it runs said other chain at that point in the INPUT chain |
| 19:13.04 | stew | Solarion: oh, you are trying to delete a rule that was added as "iptables -A INPUT -j $rs", sorry i was confused |
| 19:13.10 | Solarion | stew: yes |
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| 19:13.32 | Solarion | like I said, this works on ubuntu, but it's possible my custom kernel on the (debian) server is misconfigured |
| 19:13.35 | zinx | Solarion: delete it by line number |
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| 19:13.46 | zinx | Solarion: iptables -L INPUT -n |
| 19:13.52 | zinx | Solarion: iptables -D INPUT n |
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| 19:14.23 | Solarion | zinx: is all well and good, but I'd rather not have to figure out the line number myself. |
| 19:14.44 | zinx | Solarion: complain to the iptables maintainers? |
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| 19:15.47 | Solarion | zinx: not sure it's their fault |
| 19:16.04 | Solarion | what I'm trying to do is figure out why I keep ending up locking me out of my server. |
| 19:16.07 | zinx | Solarion: they're the ones who decide which options work which way :x |
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| 19:16.33 | stew | Solarion: you are trying to delete a chain that is still being referred to by other chains |
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| 19:16.47 | Solarion | stew: ah. So I need to switch the order? |
| 19:17.12 | stew | Solarion: perhaps, look here: http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter-devel/2007-August/029037.html |
| 19:17.28 | jeward | Hi, I just upgraded a Dell 1550 from sarge to etch and it gives all kinds of SCSI errors when booting from the etch kernel, but still boots fine from the sarge (2.4) kernel. Any idea what I did wrong or how to fix it? |
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| 19:19.32 | Solarion | stew: taht should be in sid, no? |
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| 19:20.21 | Jabka | why does tmfs is mounted under /tmp ? or how can i increase that |
| 19:20.59 | wfq | guys, why my wifi network could work without encription fine and when I set it up it doesn't. I can not see any error in the syslog when I turn on the encrypting |
| 19:21.14 | stew | Solarion: no idea. i don't know if this patch was actually applied |
| 19:21.20 | reaper21_ | ex-chat |
| 19:21.36 | Solarion | stew: I'm gonna have to give this more attention. Thanks for the help. tho |
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| 19:21.58 | wfq | I have seen I have any module I need in my kernel |
| 19:22.10 | chops | Jabka: Edit the parameter in /etc/fstab |
| 19:22.11 | wfq | how could I debug that deeper please? |
| 19:22.33 | chops | Jabka: Or just don't mount a tmpfs there if you prefer it to use your hard disk's main storage instead of having to resize it if you want it bigger |
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| 19:23.34 | Jabka | chops , thank you |
| 19:23.36 | wfq | anyone? |
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| 19:23.50 | stew | wfq: which type of encryption? |
| 19:24.01 | wfq | stew, WEP |
| 19:24.04 | simonrvn | anyone left 2 weeks ago |
| 19:24.22 | wfq | but never mind, I could use whatever, I just want to know why it does not work when I set up any |
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| 19:24.45 | Jabka | chops i looked in /etc/fstab but it dosn't mention any tmfs |
| 19:24.55 | stew | wfq: i don't know other then making sure you are really using the right form of wep and are specifying the key the right way |
| 19:25.12 | stew | wfq: like making sure that you are not confusing a hex number with a string |
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| 19:25.28 | wfq | stew, I am using key s: decimalpassword |
| 19:25.37 | wfq | sorry, alphanumeric password |
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| 19:26.08 | Jabka | when i run mount command it says that overflow is mounted at /tmp |
| 19:26.15 | elia_ | is this the chann i was 20sec before?? |
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| 19:26.29 | stew | wfq: perhaps try a higher level tool, like network-manager? i dunno |
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| 19:26.41 | elia_ | yeah i think so |
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| 19:27.10 | elia_ | so i did the ndiswrapper -l thing and it tells me this elia@elia-laptop:~$ ndiswrapper -l |
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| 19:27.12 | wfq | stew, I tried :) but I can not get it working over xfce. a lot of problems |
| 19:27.13 | wfq | http://pastebin.com/m35d74e73 |
| 19:27.13 | elia_ | bcmwl5 : driver installed device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) |
| 19:27.16 | elia_ | elia@elia-laptop:~$ |
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| 19:27.28 | stew | elia_: i don't think you were in this channel |
| 19:27.34 | elia_ | uh |
| 19:27.37 | wfq | this is my basic configuration for my wep wifi network |
| 19:27.39 | elia_ | fuck |
| 19:27.54 | elia_ | hum |
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| 19:28.00 | pngwn | elia_, #xubuntu |
| 19:28.07 | elia_ | ok |
| 19:28.10 | elia_ | thks |
| 19:28.22 | wfq | stew, do you see something wrong in there? |
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| 19:28.34 | simonrvn | elia_: first time i've seen you here |
| 19:29.24 | stew | wfq: i don't. assuming that you realize that -key is commented out |
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| 19:30.12 | edison04 | Help when i use my TV tuner with xawtv i get a great picture but when i use mplayer i get an green picture ? I don't understand how mplayer use the setting of gama ... |
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| 19:30.42 | wfq | stew, yes, I have it now commented out because I set down my encryption given I can not have internet with it |
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| 19:31.51 | stew | edison04: you'd probably have a better chance of getting help in #mplayer |
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| 19:32.58 | chops | Jabka: If /etc/fstab doesn't mention tmpfs... how is it getting mounted? Are you running a rescue CD or a standard Debian system? |
| 19:33.00 | jeward | I'm having trouble with Adaptec AIC-7899P under etch. |
| 19:33.16 | Jabka | standart cd |
| 19:33.19 | Jabka | pc |
| 19:33.27 | infernix | anyone by chance familiar with parsing 2GB XML files with an xslt processor? |
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| 19:34.10 | jeward | My system won't boot under etch kernel with Adaptec AIC-7899P SCSI cards. |
| 19:34.23 | infernix | im parsing a log with saxon. it (java) eats 8GB ram but still goes out of memory. talk about memory hungry. |
| 19:34.37 | MaNsOnR | good evening |
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| 19:35.42 | stew | infernix: you'd be much better off using a sax parser to at least split it into more manageble chunks |
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| 19:37.28 | chops | infernix: (I'm not familiar with saxon) does that build a DOM, or does it iterate over the file calling your callbacks? |
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| 19:37.42 | infernix | yeah, i guess i don't really have a choice but to split it up. i guess i could convert it to sql, insert it into mysql and query that. but i'd rather not. |
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| 19:38.23 | infernix | chops: i have no idea. i just tested various xslt processors, and xsltproc and xalan were dead slow. took >20 minutes on a 33MB file. saxon did it in ~5 seconds |
| 19:38.39 | chops | infernix: :-( |
| 19:39.04 | chops | infernix: Welcome to the brave new world. It's all DOCTYPEs and coffee breaks now. |
| 19:39.08 | jeward | Can anyone help me get etch working with Adaptec AIC-7899P? |
| 19:39.18 | infernix | its xslt 1.0 though. and probably not a very efficient xsl template either, but i am clueless when it comes to this |
| 19:39.21 | abrotman | jeward: i think you need a kmuto image |
| 19:39.44 | jeward | abrotman: A whut-whut? |
| 19:39.52 | infernix | all i want is some nice reports from a 6 hour jmeter stress test, but i guess i will have to split it up. |
| 19:39.52 | abrotman | !tell jeward about kmuto |
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| 19:40.28 | abrotman | !tell tuxx about root |
| 19:40.34 | jeward | abrotman: It works fine with the sarge 2.4 kernel? |
| 19:40.43 | abrotman | jeward: i know .. |
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| 19:41.20 | jeward | abrotman: So... I need a kmuto kernel? |
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| 19:41.34 | abrotman | jeward: the installer .. i believe so |
| 19:42.41 | jeward | abrotman: So, if the box is already etch... how do I use the installer to get the new kernel on? |
| 19:43.04 | abrotman | jeward: ah ... didn't realize it was already installed .. you're trying to add the controller ? |
| 19:43.16 | jeward | abrotman: Can I just install the kmuto kernel from the sarge kernel booted over the net maybe? :) |
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| 19:43.45 | jeward | abrotman: Here's the whole story: |
| 19:43.46 | abrotman | oh .. i love stories |
| 19:43.52 | abrotman | gets popcorn |
| 19:44.06 | jeward | abrotman: upgraded to etch from sarge, won't boot the etch kernel, but it will the sarge 2.4 kernel. |
| 19:44.13 | jeward | abrotman: :) |
| 19:44.19 | abrotman | worst story .. ever |
| 19:44.27 | jeward | abrotman: :( |
| 19:44.28 | craigevil | too short |
| 19:44.35 | abrotman | jeward: boot the sarge 2.4 .. grab the 2.6.22 from backports.org .. see if that will boot |
| 19:44.48 | jeward | abrotman: Okie. |
| 19:44.52 | jeward | Thanks! |
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| 19:48.21 | jeward | E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.22-6-686 |
| 19:48.45 | jeward | abrotman: Is that not the correct package name? |
| 19:49.04 | abrotman | couldn't find where? |
| 19:49.19 | jeward | root@kw42:~# apt-get -t etch-backports install linux-image-2.6.22-6-686 |
| 19:49.30 | jeward | Am I holding my mouth wrong? |
| 19:49.35 | abrotman | did you apt-get update ? |
| 19:49.37 | jeward | Si. |
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| 19:49.48 | jeward | And installed the backports keyring. |
| 19:49.49 | abrotman | apt-cache search linux-image .. what do you see ? |
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| 19:50.23 | abrotman | or apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.22 |
| 19:50.41 | jeward | linux-image-2.6.22-4-686 |
| 19:50.46 | jeward | I typoed. :) |
| 19:50.50 | n0mad | hello have conky problem http://pastebin.com/d2a289eb0 veird symbols after temperatures, posible to fix somehow (anu ideas)? |
| 19:50.51 | abrotman | sounds right |
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| 19:52.01 | jeward | abrotman: Booting into new kernel... |
| 19:53.13 | infernix | ugh. kernel panic while doing bootup fsck on my laptop >.< |
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| 19:54.01 | abrotman | jeward: working or floundering ? |
| 19:54.05 | infernix | cries |
| 19:54.17 | infernix | its not my day. i guess i'll have to resort to mario galaxy |
| 19:54.31 | abrotman | infernix: you say that like it's a bad thing |
| 19:54.46 | jeward | abrotman: Floundering I'm afraid,. |
| 19:54.53 | abrotman | jeward: hrm .. |
| 19:54.59 | infernix | oh, then it didn't came out right. lets retry |
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| 19:55.17 | infernix | its not my day. i guess i'll have to resort to mario galaxy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111oneeleven!!11one |
| 19:55.23 | infernix | better? |
| 19:55.24 | MrRoland | hey, is there a way to find all invalid symlinks on the system? |
| 19:55.31 | jeward | abrotman: What to try next? |
| 19:55.38 | abrotman | jeward: the other aic modules perhaps ? |
| 19:55.43 | jeward | Let me look at my other etched Dell 1550. |
| 19:55.55 | jeward | abrotman: What do you mean? |
| 19:56.03 | jeward | abrotman: From backports? |
| 19:56.09 | abrotman | jeward: no .. the other ones in the kernel |
| 19:56.31 | infernix | waves byebye to all the KVM virtual machines with illegal blocks in their inodes |
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| 19:58.49 | jeward | abrotman: You mean tell it to load a different one? |
| 19:59.44 | jeward | abrotman: Okay, I have another 1550 with the same hardware. |
| 19:59.48 | abrotman | jeward: on my system with a .22 kernel i've got an aic7xxx and aix7xxx-old and aix79xx |
| 19:59.49 | jeward | And it orks fine. |
| 19:59.56 | jeward | works |
| 20:00.07 | abrotman | jeward: and it's running etch ? |
| 20:00.08 | jeward | abrotman: Okay, I have a meeting, but thanks! |
| 20:00.11 | jeward | Yep! |
| 20:00.15 | abrotman | jeward: check slots/bios |
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| 20:00.39 | Airbottle | hey, whats the recommended procedure to install nvidia-drivers in lenny? the one-liner solution doesn't work because nvidia-kernel-source is not available |
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| 20:06.09 | muramasa | Heya guys :-) I'm wondering, if there is a small howto on how to get a microphone to function in debian? I have no clue as of where to start :-( |
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| 20:06.46 | alephant | Hi aa! |
| 20:06.49 | alephant | all, evn |
| 20:06.51 | alephant | even |
| 20:06.53 | alephant | wtf keyboard |
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| 20:07.02 | Airbottle | isnt a microphone supposed to plug into an audio jack at the back of the computer muramas? |
| 20:07.02 | stew | muramasa: does sound work? |
| 20:07.38 | alephant | I have a .deb which I want to install (dpkg) but I want to pull down all dependencies from the net (apt-get)... is there a way to do that in one swell foop? |
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| 20:07.43 | muramasa | stew: sound works indeed |
| 20:07.53 | Airbottle | what connector is it? |
| 20:07.57 | stew | muramasa: is the microphone level turned up AND the microphone unmuted? |
| 20:07.57 | Airbottle | standard audio jack? |
| 20:08.06 | muramasa | Airbottle: yes |
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| 20:08.19 | muramasa | stew: alsamixer does not provide any options for microphone, and I dont know how to add it |
| 20:08.28 | muramasa | (bare with me, still newbish) |
| 20:08.29 | stew | alephant: dpkg -i foo.dpkg ; which will exit with an error about dependencies, then run "aptitude -f install" or "apt-get -f install" to install the dependencies |
| 20:08.31 | Airbottle | double click loudspeaker on the bar |
| 20:08.40 | neosix | hello! I installed splashy with apt-get. Do I need some manually work now? |
| 20:08.41 | stew | muramasa: hit tab |
| 20:08.41 | Miesco | How would I change the gtk engine theme? |
| 20:08.46 | alephant | stew: tq |
| 20:08.51 | stew | muramasa: (which will switch from playback to capture) |
| 20:09.08 | gigo | in my sound icon in the notification panel, there is a cross. when I click on it, it says, "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.". Could someone please help me in troubleshooting this? |
| 20:09.09 | alephant | Alternately I could just distribute the dependencies :-) |
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| 20:09.59 | alephant | Or heck, since the dependent only has one binary linked to only like libio, I can just add that binary to the .deb |
| 20:10.01 | alephant | Thanks! |
| 20:10.01 | neosix | so can anybody tell me about splashy |
| 20:10.29 | muramasa | stew: that brought it up indeed. there's no option to mute it, like there is with playback. [MM] or green box that is |
| 20:10.42 | gigo | $ alsamixer => alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device - Please help |
| 20:10.48 | alephant | waves byebye. |
| 20:11.11 | stew | gigo: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 20:11.22 | stew | muramasa: how are you trying to record sound? |
| 20:11.40 | muramasa | stew: tried with KRec and also Skype |
| 20:11.52 | muramasa | perhaps it's the input source that needs to be changed |
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| 20:12.02 | bravvv1 | hi |
| 20:12.09 | stew | muramasa: try arecord first |
| 20:13.23 | muramasa | stew: is that CLI only? |
| 20:13.35 | bravvv1 | how can i configure my modem zte zxdsl 831 as router |
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| 20:14.37 | stew | muramasa: yes |
| 20:15.07 | bravvv1 | how can i configure my modem zte zxdsl 831 as router,am newbe |
| 20:15.35 | pgpkeys | read the documentation for that model |
| 20:15.45 | pgpkeys | that's not a debian or even a linux issue |
| 20:16.27 | grand_grunt | pgpkeys: The modem may run Linux, even if it's not the matter to configure it |
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| 20:17.59 | muramasa | stew: I can't quite figure out how to use arecord, even with man arecord. are there some basic command I can write to test it quickly? |
| 20:18.00 | pgpkeys | grand_grunt: that's usually an embedded version which i have yet to see any irc channel over the years cover except for *specific* model related channels. |
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| 20:18.17 | bravvv1 | there is documentation for windows but not for linux |
| 20:19.19 | xuser | It doesn't matter what it runs, what he needs is some networking knowledge. |
| 20:20.33 | bravvv1 | even i can not access to hi page,http |
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| 20:21.24 | prolix | hello |
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| 20:22.47 | prolix | i'm trying to ask my machine to query an ntp server at boot to adjust the time. i've added a time server to the /etc/ntp.conf file, but it won't work. i was wondering which field i had to populate with a server in order for it to run at boot? |
| 20:22.58 | bravvv1 | then can any one tell me how to cofigure router under debian |
| 20:23.29 | abrotman | bravvv1: why are you trying to configure a router? |
| 20:23.37 | prolix | doesn't your router have a home address of 192.168.1.1? |
| 20:23.48 | mbroeker | muramasa, arecord -f cd -Dhw:0 -d 10 test.wav # records 10 secs to testwav on a little endian machine |
| 20:24.01 | bravvv1 | not working 192... |
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| 20:24.26 | micols | a friend of mine i tried to help configure his ubuntu and setup a static ip did try to take 255.255.255.256 as subnet mask :) |
| 20:24.47 | grand_grunt | micols: 256 at end? |
| 20:24.48 | bravvv1 | am realy new be |
| 20:24.52 | micols | yes |
| 20:25.07 | muramasa | mbroeker: thanks! |
| 20:25.12 | muramasa | stew: ok, seems like it works with arecord |
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| 20:25.23 | bravvv1 | how to configure subnet mask |
| 20:25.33 | xuser | ... |
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| 20:25.44 | pgpkeys | xuser: ok, i'll say it. you were right |
| 20:25.56 | tchaska | anybody knows how to do a manual uninstall of vmware? |
| 20:25.59 | prolix | in /etc/ntp.conf would i have to uncomment the example server and substitute a real time server in order for the machine to correct the time at boot each time? |
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| 20:26.46 | xuser | pgpkeys: I know :P |
| 20:26.53 | bravvv1 | no ntp conf |
| 20:26.56 | pgpkeys | bleh :) |
| 20:27.14 | ddm | On a intel c2d (8400) cpu and 2gb mem, what recommended 32 or 64 bit linux? |
| 20:27.34 | zinx | 64bit |
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| 20:27.47 | zinx | 'amd64' is the name of the debian port |
| 20:27.58 | tchaska | anybody knows how to do a manual uninstall of vmware? |
| 20:27.59 | prolix | bravvv1: what does your browser say when you enter http://192.186.1.1? |
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| 20:28.08 | stew | ddm: what are you going to use the machine for? |
| 20:28.21 | ddm | stew: server/htpc |
| 20:28.24 | prolix | bravvv1: wait. that should read: http://192.168.1.1 |
| 20:28.51 | muramasa | stew: this is odd, skype works after doing arecord |
| 20:28.53 | Eulex | ddm, 32-bit, if you ever want to run sun java or flash on it |
| 20:28.58 | abrotman | tchaska: ask #vmware |
| 20:29.05 | tchaska | thanks |
| 20:29.17 | micols | anybody having/had problems with 24bit and geforce2 go ? (i tried both chipset and driver agpgart without success), its very slow compared to 16bit |
| 20:29.21 | tchaska | anybody knows how to do a manual uninstall of vmware on debian:? |
| 20:29.27 | abrotman | tchaska: ask #vmware |
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| 20:29.33 | bravvv1 | not fined |
| 20:29.37 | micols | i also tried appending various fastwrite etc parameters to nvidia module. |
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| 20:29.49 | micols | cannot get fastwrite enabled on it either, no matter what i do. |
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| 20:29.58 | ddm | Eulex: I have no need to run java or flash on that machine... |
| 20:30.01 | prolix | bravvv1: can you use the internet at all? |
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| 20:30.04 | micols | but it says sba and fastwrite -is- supported. |
| 20:30.15 | bravvv1 | no answar from server |
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| 20:30.35 | bravvv1 | i have to reconfigurate it avery time |
| 20:30.36 | Eulex | ddm, or any other proprietary software only available for x86. otherwise, it should be safe to use a 64-bit OS. |
| 20:31.04 | izigo | first. sorry. this is a nub question. How do i install sendmail on debian? apt-get sendmail? |
| 20:31.11 | ddm | Eulex: The only think I will install that might no be available in debian is mythtv... |
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| 20:31.46 | stew | izigo: yes, although there are other MTAs we'd recommend using instead of sendmail |
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| 20:32.00 | micols | use postfix instead of sendmail, its a standin replacement |
| 20:32.02 | stew | izigo: unless you are already very familiar with sendmail that is |
| 20:32.07 | prolix | apt-get install foo |
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| 20:32.27 | micols | i use postfix, its much more secure, although not perfect |
| 20:32.50 | stew | micols: you know of security vulnerabilities with sendmail? |
| 20:33.11 | micols | none current stew , but when one happens you have root access. |
| 20:33.22 | micols | thats not as likely with postfix |
| 20:33.30 | prolix | man |
| 20:33.34 | micols | you could always jail it, but its a pain in the ass |
| 20:33.35 | prolix | what is going on with my time clock |
| 20:33.41 | abrotman | micols: sendmail8 you mean ? |
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| 20:34.00 | bravvv1 | prolix:i tried to configurate it onece,and i have this problem |
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| 20:34.19 | micols | no the original sendmail abrotman |
| 20:34.31 | abrotman | micols: really .. which year was that? |
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| 20:34.58 | prolix | bravvv1: what did you do to configure the router? did you clone the mac address? |
| 20:35.08 | izigo | well i need it for a very simple thing and that is to send mail on a php form basicly. |
| 20:35.10 | nohup_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 20:35.10 | nohup_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.16 | prolix | does the bot have any information on using ntp? |
| 20:35.18 | micols | i just changed my sendmail (not exim) a few months ago abrotman , in etch |
| 20:35.19 | nohup_ | that shouldn't happen, should it ? :) |
| 20:35.23 | micols | to postfix |
| 20:35.24 | izigo | but ofcourse i want safe and secure.. and i dont want spammers to be able to use it. |
| 20:35.28 | nohup_ | (that was apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.22-3-amd64) |
| 20:35.32 | bravvv1 | i don't remember |
| 20:35.35 | abrotman | just ignores micols |
| 20:35.42 | abrotman | izigo: try postfix or exim |
| 20:35.49 | prolix | !ntp |
| 20:35.50 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 20:36.04 | izigo | micols to install postfix i basicly just need to do a apt-get install postfix. and the "default" settings will work for apache to send mails? |
| 20:36.29 | pgpkeys | haha love the name of the new ubuntu beta. hardy heron |
| 20:36.32 | micols | i wouldnt count on it |
| 20:36.41 | micols | you probably have to setup some domain |
| 20:36.47 | izigo | i am new to debian but not new to some other *nix. but always very cautious and afraid when going into a new OS :P |
| 20:36.49 | micols | or your relay server |
| 20:36.50 | chops | izigo: Depends on your local configuration... if you can send mail directly via SMTP, then I would think so |
| 20:37.36 | izigo | micols and chops. all i want is apache to be able to send email. and at the same time know that spammers cant use it as a open relay :) |
| 20:37.40 | abrotman | izigo: is it a real mail server? or just forwarding to a real server? |
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| 20:37.58 | chops | izigo: If you have to use a smarthost, then it may take some configuration. It'll probably either prompt you for what you need to fill in, or it'll be pretty straightforward to configure that way. |
| 20:38.15 | prolix | bravvv1: i don't know what to tell you. if i were you, i would reset my router to the default settings, browse to it via http://192.168.1.1 and clone the mac address. that's how i set mine up |
| 20:38.17 | chops | izigo: It's pretty difficult to accidentally configure the Debian MTAs as an open relay, I believe |
| 20:38.27 | izigo | chops thats nice to hear :). |
| 20:38.27 | micols | what is nice about postfix is that you have all those small processes with own UID , - so if there is a flaw one can only gain permission of that UID.. i.e. iirc only one process is root and its very small and secure (master process) |
| 20:38.38 | chops | izigo: It won't install that way by default or anything ridiculous like that :-) |
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| 20:39.06 | bravvv1 | prolix:it did not work |
| 20:39.06 | micols | with sendmail you're instant root if there's a security flaw :) |
| 20:39.11 | prolix | there really should be a #debian-beginner channel |
| 20:39.15 | dondelelcaro | izigo: are you receiving mail at that machine or just sending it? |
| 20:39.16 | izigo | abrotman its a webserver serving a few websites that have simple php sites that just need to send mail. |
| 20:39.21 | izigo | prolix totaly agree :) |
| 20:39.25 | dondelelcaro | prolix: this channel is fine for beginning questions |
| 20:39.26 | izigo | dondelelcaro just sending. |
| 20:39.35 | dondelelcaro | izigo: do you have a relay that you can use? |
| 20:39.36 | pgpkeys | prolix: there was on efnet. |
| 20:39.38 | abrotman | izigo: yes, but do you have a real mail server to use with it, or is that machine the real mailserver? |
| 20:39.38 | micols | izigo: dont use sendmail then |
| 20:39.42 | prolix | i've been asking the same question for days now, dondelelcaro |
| 20:39.48 | prolix | with only a reference to the bot |
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| 20:39.53 | izigo | dondelelcaro no. |
| 20:40.02 | bravvv1 | than bye and thanks i will go there |
| 20:40.05 | dondelelcaro | izigo: ok, then use postfix. If you do, use nullmailer. |
| 20:40.12 | dondelelcaro | prolix: well, try asking again. |
| 20:40.15 | prolix | bravvv1: good luck, man/woman/thing |
| 20:40.23 | pgpkeys | prolix: sometimes answers are slow to come. depends on if people can or desire to answer. provide copious details though |
| 20:40.31 | izigo | okey i will dig in and aptget postfix :) |
| 20:40.38 | micols | i remember the great days when sendmail enabled relaying by default |
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| 20:40.43 | prolix | dondelelcaro: ok. in /etc/ntp.conf, which field do i have to adjust for my machine to query an ntp server and adjust my system time? |
| 20:40.54 | dondelelcaro | prolix: you shouldn't need to edit it at all, actually. |
| 20:41.17 | dondelelcaro | prolix: it's server, though, if for some reason you want to change the defaults (which are pretty sane and use the pool servers) |
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| 20:41.25 | prolix | dondelelcaro: i did an install without an internet connection, so a lot of the things that are normally there during installation aren't there |
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| 20:41.33 | dondelelcaro | prolix: that doesn't matter |
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| 20:41.40 | SparFux | chronyc sets my clock wrongly! |
| 20:41.42 | dondelelcaro | prolix: anything that isn't there you can just install |
| 20:41.44 | matrix | how can i add secondary i |
| 20:41.49 | matrix | ip on debian =? |
| 20:41.59 | dondelelcaro | matrix: to an interface? or a second interface? |
| 20:42.06 | prolix | i had to ask someone for the correct servers for my sources.list before i could install. |
| 20:42.10 | SparFux | matrix: that's easy. |
| 20:42.21 | matrix | how is it ? SparFux |
| 20:42.23 | dondelelcaro | matrix: for the first, add an eth0:1 stanza (or whatever) to /etc/network/interfaces, for the latter, add the appropriate stanza. |
| 20:42.31 | dondelelcaro | matrix: man 5 interfaces; for details |
| 20:42.38 | prolix | gcc wasn't even installed. but that's neither here nor there. my question is why doesn't it adjust the time at boot? |
| 20:42.39 | micols | eth0:1 matrix |
| 20:42.43 | abrotman | prolix: that's normal |
| 20:42.45 | matrix | hmm oki |
| 20:42.47 | micols | man for virtual interfaces |
| 20:42.49 | abrotman | prolix: the gcc part i mean |
| 20:42.53 | SparFux | matrix: check out /etc/network/interfaces. |
| 20:42.56 | abrotman | prolix: which ntp package did you install ? |
| 20:43.04 | dondelelcaro | prolix: it actually will when it first starts up, assuming the network is up |
| 20:43.11 | prolix | abrotman: i did apt-get install ntp |
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| 20:43.57 | abrotman | prolix: i think you want ntpdate |
| 20:44.04 | dondelelcaro | prolix: if not, you can use ntp with the -g option, or ntpdate. |
| 20:44.08 | SparFux | matrix: or use command: "ip ad add dev eth0 192.168.2.1/24 broadcast 192.168.2.255 |
| 20:44.13 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: ntpdate shouldn't be needed anymore, actually. |
| 20:44.22 | prolix | abrotman: thank you |
| 20:44.24 | prolix | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 20:44.25 | abrotman | doesn't 'ntp' install a daemon ? |
| 20:44.31 | SparFux | abrotman: I installed chrony! |
| 20:44.31 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: right, which is what you want |
| 20:44.35 | abrotman | or it's not a listening daemon ? |
| 20:44.39 | abrotman | SparFux: that works too |
| 20:44.52 | SparFux | abrotman: mine gets one hour difference all the time! |
| 20:44.53 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i mean an ntpd that other machines can sync to |
| 20:45.02 | prolix | E: Couldn't find package ntpd |
| 20:45.02 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: well, it's a full fleged ntp server too, but that's secondary to it's primary function |
| 20:45.03 | abrotman | SparFux: chrony does? |
| 20:45.07 | abrotman | prolix: ntpdate |
| 20:45.09 | SparFux | yes! |
| 20:45.16 | prolix | abrotman: ok |
| 20:45.17 | SparFux | And that's really strange! |
| 20:45.18 | abrotman | SparFux: is your UTC and timezone correct? |
| 20:45.24 | dondelelcaro | SparFux: if you've got a one hour difference, you probably don't have your timezone set properly. |
| 20:45.32 | dondelelcaro | SparFux: see what date -u outputs, and what date; outputs. |
| 20:45.32 | SparFux | my timezone is correct and the hwclock should use utc. |
| 20:45.48 | prolix | ntpdate is already the newest version. |
| 20:45.54 | SparFux | dondelelcaro: date -u give utc time. |
| 20:46.18 | prolix | where would i adjust the timezone? |
| 20:46.29 | SparFux | no no, relaly timezone is correct. central european time CET and the hwclock should be in utc! |
| 20:46.33 | abrotman | !set the time |
| 20:46.33 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch), dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid), and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 20:46.42 | SparFux | prolix: tzselect |
| 20:46.55 | prolix | SparFux: thank you |
| 20:47.20 | dondelelcaro | SparFux: what is the exact output from date -u? |
| 20:47.35 | SparFux | Fri Mar 21 20:46:45 UTC 2008 |
| 20:47.45 | SparFux | well, now I sat clock manually! |
| 20:47.56 | SparFux | this is why I got the right time now. And crhonyc is off! |
| 20:47.58 | dondelelcaro | your clock is about a minute off, but that's ok. |
| 20:48.08 | dondelelcaro | SparFux: ditch chrony then, and use ntp insteaad. |
| 20:48.10 | SparFux | that's because chrony is off. |
| 20:48.13 | prolix | when i use tzselect and go through the options, it gives me the current (which is wrong) time as the local time |
| 20:48.16 | prolix | ugh |
| 20:48.18 | SparFux | dondel: hm... |
| 20:48.37 | SparFux | I better like chrony, I have to admit. |
| 20:49.01 | SparFux | dpkg: I have no package ztdata! |
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| 20:51.39 | SparFux | I suspect stupid windows sets my clock, even though it never did. perhaps some fucking update shit! |
| 20:51.55 | izigo | all you who helped me a few minutes ago. THANK YOU. :). much appreciated. |
| 20:52.01 | izigo | it works like a charm. |
| 20:52.10 | izigo | postfix i did and postfix i got :) |
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| 20:52.44 | SparFux | dondelelcaro: What is you time now? |
| 20:52.56 | kstar | Hi... I'm trying to preseed the Debian installer. Is there some way by which I can execute interactive post install tasks? |
| 20:52.56 | bsd | hi, friends! |
| 20:52.57 | SparFux | Fri Mar 21 20:52:12 UTC 2008 |
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| 20:54.05 | prolix | comparing clocks (this will take 70 sec)... |
| 20:54.10 | prolix | that was 3 minutes ago |
| 20:54.24 | prolix | i must've downloaded the cursed version |
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| 20:55.04 | dondelelcaro | kstar: yes |
| 20:55.04 | ubu | hello, how do i import gpg keys for apt in command line |
| 20:55.07 | ubu | ? |
| 20:55.09 | CSlime | Help eradicate poverty, war and racism by joining our campaign!!!!!Help eradicate poverty, war and racism by joining our campaign!!!!!Help eradicate poverty, war and racism by joining our campaign!!!!!Help eradicate poverty, war and racism by joining our campaign!!!!! Barack the Magic Negro will end all injustice! Barack the Magic Negro will end all injustice!Barack the Magic Negro will end all injustice! Barack the Magic N |
| 20:55.11 | dondelelcaro | ubu: man apt-key |
| 20:55.14 | CSlime | egro will end all injustice! Barack the Magic Negro will end all injustice!Barack the Magic Negro will end all injustice! Barack the Magic Negro will end all injustice! Barack the Magic Negro will end all injustice! |
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| 20:55.21 | ubu | dondelelcaro, thanks |
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| 20:55.34 | kstar | dondelelcaro: How do I do that? |
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| 20:55.40 | dondelelcaro | Fri Mar 21 20:55:40 UTC 2008 |
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| 20:56.15 | SparFux | Fri Mar 21 20:55:39 UTC 2008 |
| 20:56.18 | bsd | I'm trying to split a package which contains a libX.so.N.0.0, now how do I make the dpkg_shlibdeps work for other sub-packages for the same |
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| 20:56.31 | SparFux | crhony is now ok. I am almost positive windows screws my hwclock up by one hour. |
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| 20:56.58 | SparFux | Can I make grub display the BIOS time on startup? |
| 20:57.23 | chops | SparFux: Is one OS or the other possibly set to a non-DST time zone? Or are you 1-2 hours off from GMT and Linux is not set to use local time for the BIOS clock? |
| 20:57.53 | dondelelcaro | bsd: just call dh_makeshlibs and dh_shlibdeps, or call dpkg-shlibdeps with the proper -S option |
| 20:58.44 | kstar | dondelelcaro: How do I get interactive post install tasks working? |
| 20:58.51 | SparFux | chops: gmt is 2100 now, and my time is 2200. my false time would be 2300 and htis might be caused by a stupid os and my linux thinking hwclock is still gmt! |
| 20:59.03 | bsd | dondelelcaro: I'm using cdbs, please elaborate a bit more |
| 20:59.27 | chops | SparFux: Ah, that makes sense. Try setting UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS |
| 20:59.29 | dondelelcaro | bsd: I don't use cdbs, so I can't help you. |
| 20:59.34 | dondelelcaro | bsd: try asking in #debian-mentors |
| 20:59.46 | izigo | micols stew prolix abrotman and chops : thanks for the help before. much apreciated :). i thought it was "that easy" but.. i wanted to ask someone first ;). thanks |
| 20:59.51 | bsd | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 21:00.02 | dondelelcaro | you probably need to load some makefile snippet or something, but I really don't know. |
| 21:00.11 | SparFux | chops: Yes, but I WANT utc in hwclock. I will have to hack windows to not touch my clock without being asked to! |
| 21:00.14 | chops | izigo: np |
| 21:00.19 | dondelelcaro | cdbs is impenetrable onc you actually start doing anything remotely complicated |
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| 21:00.46 | kstar | dondelelcaro: You mean into the installer source itself? |
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| 21:01.17 | chops | izigo: Much better the "I want to do this and am being careful that it won't cause problems" approach than the "No I don't care about [important issue] I just want [odd, vaguely silly desire] (time passes) OMG MY COMPUTER IS BROKEN DEBIAN IS TEH SUCK" approach |
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| 21:01.24 | dondelelcaro | kstar: no, you don't need to muck with the installer source. You just need to pass scripts to call using the preseed methods |
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| 21:01.46 | kstar | dondelelcaro: Yeah.... but can the scripts be interactive and still run in-target? |
| 21:01.47 | SexyKen | Hey guys - firstly - I know software RAID sucks - but when someone tells you to use it for their application, you can't do much about it. So here is the question; I have a drive that is bad /dev/sdb2 - which is in RAID 1 software RAID. Do I just power down the server, pull the drive and insert a new one? |
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| 21:02.08 | prolix | i just want my time to be correct, is that so silly? |
| 21:02.12 | plb | it possible to have 2 versions of gtk2 installed?...trying to build the newest in my home directory |
| 21:02.21 | stew | SexyKen: software RAID doesn't suck. its often faster than hardware raid |
| 21:02.27 | dondelelcaro | kstar: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs05.html.en |
| 21:02.29 | chops | SparFux: I don't know if Windows can be convinced to do that... I'd recommend just configuring Debian to use local time for the BIOS clock (or installing ntpdate and letting them fight), but it's up to you ultimately |
| 21:02.34 | subsume | Can someone please tell me how to get the startup messages of a thin client onto the DHCP server? |
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| 21:02.56 | SparFux | chops: Yes, you are really right. But I am quite stubborn ;-) |
| 21:03.01 | SexyKen | stew: fair enough :-) So how does one replace a drive in a software raid environment? |
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| 21:03.09 | chops | SexyKen: Also, you can port your data over to new hardware without having a total nightmare (which has saved me one time when the old server's HDD controller died and I could just grab a new server and move the SWRAID array over) |
| 21:03.09 | dondelelcaro | kstar: you should be able to yes, but people in #debian-boot on OFTC will know precisely how to do it |
| 21:03.19 | dondelelcaro | kstar: howevever, the general rule of thumb is that you shouldn't be asking questions |
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| 21:03.37 | kstar | dondelelcaro: Ok. Thanks |
| 21:03.45 | dondelelcaro | kstar: if worst comes to worst, you can do it by causing custom udebs to be loaded, which will definetly work. |
| 21:04.01 | kstar | dondelelcaro: Ok. |
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| 21:05.32 | SexyKen | Do you know how to replace a bad drive in a software RAID environment? |
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| 21:06.17 | chops | SexyKen: If your disks are not hot-swappable, you'll have to power down the machine to do it; other than that, just add the replacement drive to the array and resync, same as with HW RAID |
| 21:06.58 | jelly-home | ... wouldn't it be nice to take out the failed devices out of the raid first? |
| 21:07.05 | chops | SexyKen: Interestingly enough, the HDD controller that died was on the machine that one of our techs had earlier decided to "hot-swap" a drive on by yanking the IDE cable out of the motherboard without even bothering to unmount the filesystem |
| 21:07.12 | chops | SexyKen: I do not believe that this is a coincedence |
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| 21:07.42 | xsdg | chops: IDE? heh |
| 21:07.52 | SexyKen | In software raid, do the drives have to be the same exact model /manufacturer? |
| 21:07.58 | xsdg | SexyKen: no |
| 21:08.04 | chops | SexyKen: Nope, just same size (well, it's okay not, but you'll waste space) |
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| 21:08.08 | xsdg | SexyKen: you can do a RAID between a hard drive and a ramdisk if you want |
| 21:08.20 | xsdg | SexyKen: you should do RAID on partitions rather than entire devices, though |
| 21:08.47 | xsdg | (so that if the sizes don't line up, you can potentially use the extra space on the larger device(s)) |
| 21:08.49 | SexyKen | Well it appears that the software raid already did that, I think |
| 21:09.01 | SexyKen | there are hdb1-7, hda1-7 and md1-7 |
| 21:09.34 | chops | xsdg, SexyKen: Another reason to use partitions is so that it's obvious (if you set the partition type) what's going on to someone who's encountering your setup without having you around to explain everything |
| 21:09.45 | xsdg | chops: true |
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| 21:10.55 | jelly-home | xsdg: a corollary: never use full drive space in a cheap-raid environment. The replacement 200GB disk might be a bit smaller or larger. |
| 21:11.12 | frankr | What should be in my xorg.conf if I have a Radeon 7000 agp for the driver name? "ati"? |
| 21:11.29 | abrotman | that's fine |
| 21:11.41 | nohup_ | another question |
| 21:11.45 | jeward | abrotman: No, you were saying... slots and what? |
| 21:11.48 | nohup_ | is there a 64 bit xserver in apt ? |
| 21:11.57 | jeward | abrotman: s/No/Now/ |
| 21:11.59 | abrotman | jeward: check slots/bios |
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| 21:12.15 | jeward | abrotman: Slots how? |
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| 21:12.43 | stew | freespac1: yes, either ati or radeon |
| 21:12.47 | stew | frankr: ^^^ |
| 21:12.49 | stew | nohup_: yes |
| 21:13.11 | nohup_ | cool :) |
| 21:13.13 | abrotman | jeward: just compare between machines |
| 21:13.14 | nohup_ | i can't find it :) |
| 21:13.27 | jeward | abrotman: Check. |
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| 21:13.38 | stew | nohup_: you are running 64 bit debian? |
| 21:13.46 | xsdg | jelly-home: indeed |
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| 21:14.09 | stew | nohup_: 'xorg' is the name of the metapackage that install the xserver |
| 21:14.16 | gemidjy | are there beta versions of Iceweasel 3 (pre beta5 or so..) ? |
| 21:14.31 | nohup_ | stew: well.. i FINALLY got the nvidia installer compiling the kernel module in 2.6.22... cause debian's 2.6.24's headers seems messed-up |
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| 21:14.38 | grand_grunt | stew: isn't it xserver-xorg? |
| 21:14.49 | WP-Gast410 | Could you please freenode me? |
| 21:14.49 | nohup_ | stew: but now Xorg is complaining about drivers not being the right ELF class |
| 21:14.56 | stew | gemidjy: not in debian |
| 21:15.06 | nohup_ | dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 |
| 21:15.07 | nohup_ | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so |
| 21:15.10 | stew | grand_grunt: that is one of the things that the xorg meta-package installs. |
| 21:15.11 | gemidjy | stew: thanks |
| 21:15.13 | matrix | i cant add eth0:1 |
| 21:15.16 | matrix | :( |
| 21:15.21 | stew | matrix: why not? |
| 21:15.24 | WP-Gast410 | Could you please freenode me? |
| 21:15.25 | prolix | is there supposed to be a .profile folder in the home directory by default? |
| 21:15.38 | grand_grunt | stew: I've allways used aptitude install xserver-xorg.. what more installs xorg? |
| 21:15.40 | stew | WP-Gast410: what are you talking about? do you have a debian related question? |
| 21:15.40 | nohup_ | matrix: maybe you have interface aliassing disabled in the kernel ? |
| 21:15.46 | xsdg | stew: is there any reason it's not packaged? or just "because it's not"? |
| 21:16.04 | WP-Gast410 | I don´t know!!! |
| 21:16.18 | WP-Gast410 | But please fuck with your mother! |
| 21:16.21 | stew | grand_grunt: xorg also installs the other things needed to run x, like xbase-fonts, xbase-clients |
| 21:16.23 | matrix | i dont know |
| 21:16.27 | matrix | how can i learn it ? |
| 21:16.35 | abrotman | WP-Gast410: do you have a Debian question? |
| 21:16.39 | nohup_ | stew: i don't have debian 64... just the kernel and libc and all that... |
| 21:16.47 | stew | xsdg: i dont' know. check to see if there is a bug filed against iceweasel |
| 21:16.54 | nohup_ | looks like everything works fine, except X |
| 21:16.58 | stew | nohup_: you are running a 32 version of debian? |
| 21:17.02 | matrix | and i can use manuel ifconfig eth0:1 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0 |
| 21:17.09 | WP-Gast410 | akldklsaölkds |
| 21:17.16 | nohup_ | stew: yes, only just updated the kernel to 64 bit |
| 21:17.17 | stew | matrix: there are examples in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
| 21:17.19 | matrix | but it s not work with interface conf |
| 21:17.20 | jelly-home | kban it already |
| 21:17.24 | nohup_ | and libc |
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| 21:17.37 | grand_grunt | stew : they seem to be also installed by KDE and gnome metapackage, since I got them |
| 21:17.40 | jelly-home | thank you verra much |
| 21:17.46 | stew | WP-Gast410: you've been silenced for 10 minutes, in the future, please keep it on topic |
| 21:17.49 | matrix | how can i read it /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz ? |
| 21:17.51 | chops | nohup_: How did you "upgrade" libc6 to 64-bit? |
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| 21:18.00 | karrotx__ | what's the echo_success equivalent for debian? |
| 21:18.11 | nohup_ | chops: they seem to live happily next to eachother :) |
| 21:18.16 | nohup_ | hmmm |
| 21:18.20 | stew | nohup_: there is not a 64 bit x server in the 32 bit repositories, nor would it be easy to get one running, but that shouldn't really matter |
| 21:18.21 | chops | nohup_: I mean how did you perform the upgrade? |
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| 21:18.32 | nohup_ | stew: okay... |
| 21:18.48 | nohup_ | chops: apt-get install libc6-amd64 ? :) |
| 21:19.00 | xsdg | stew: #470643, no response yet |
| 21:19.10 | xsdg | stew: (ftr, it's from 9 days ago) |
| 21:19.16 | nohup_ | stew: so basically with a 32 bit system on a 64 bit kernel.. everything works, except X ? |
| 21:19.23 | nohup_ | but that's just... so incredibly strange |
| 21:19.25 | chops | nohup_: Ah, okay |
| 21:19.33 | micols | how do i get gimp from testing when i run etch, as it requires libc6/testing and i dont want to upgrade libc6, genereally all testing programs requires testing libc6 and i dont want to upgrade it? |
| 21:19.41 | chops | !tell micols about backports |
| 21:19.44 | micols | is my only choice compiling the programs i want from testing? |
| 21:19.44 | stew | nohup_: in general, 32 bit x works fine with a 64 bit kernel |
| 21:19.49 | nohup_ | yeah... |
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| 21:19.56 | nohup_ | oh well |
| 21:20.07 | nohup_ | i'll send 1GB dram to poor kids in africa then |
| 21:20.11 | nohup_ | and reboot to linux 32 |
| 21:20.13 | chops | nohup_: Oh, how did you install your nvidia driver? |
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| 21:20.46 | nohup_ | chops: with alot of swearing and eventually downgrading from 2.6.24 to 2.6.22... then sh NVIDIA_blabla_64_blabla.run |
| 21:21.02 | micols | thanks a lot chops , this is where i go wrong everytime with debian.. i suddenly get the urge to upgrade my libc6 etc to get some testing apps :) |
| 21:21.12 | xsdg | nohup_: I admittedly don't see how memory is a reason to run 64-bit, unless you've got more than 4 gigs |
| 21:21.13 | micols | backports seems like a nice solution |
| 21:21.15 | nohup_ | which gave me a bunch of warnings about 32 bit and 'emulation' and all kinds of crap that sounded scary to me |
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| 21:21.45 | nohup_ | xsdg: cause HIGHMEM doesn't work, i have 4G, so in 32 bit mode i can't use all my ram (32 bit addressing) |
| 21:21.47 | chops | nohup_: Ah, okay. Your nvidia driver seems to be compiled incorrectly; you should contact nvidia to tell them their installer isn't working properly. If you try the Debian way and it has the same problem (besides the current problems in testing last I checked) you can also file a separate bug against the Debian nvidia installer. |
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| 21:21.57 | nohup_ | xsdg: on a 64bit kernel i can |
| 21:22.01 | chops | micols: Yeah, that's not the way to go. |
| 21:22.07 | stew | nohup_: with a bigmem kernel you could as well |
| 21:22.10 | nohup_ | but i rather miss out on about 800MB... than having to work in console mode :) |
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| 21:22.30 | xsdg | nohup_: ::nod:: |
| 21:22.35 | nohup_ | chops: what is 'the debian way' ? |
| 21:22.43 | chops | !tell nohup_ about nvidia |
| 21:22.44 | nohup_ | stew: no, with a bigmem kernel i can't :) |
| 21:22.48 | prolix | are all of the profiles stored in /etc/? |
| 21:22.50 | nohup_ | i tried, it bugs |
| 21:22.52 | chops | nohup_: What doesn't work about the highmem kernel? |
| 21:23.03 | stew | nohup_: what do you mean "it bugs"? |
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| 21:23.07 | nohup_ | googled... and it seems not to work with alot of people :) |
| 21:23.14 | xsdg | chops, stew: the kernel takes the top ~1gig of memory in the address space |
| 21:23.15 | nohup_ | stew: as in it changes nothing :) |
| 21:23.20 | chops | nohup_: What bugs? (Also, you're running a binary nvidia driver, so you're sort of on your own as far as kernel problems) |
| 21:23.25 | izigo | chops haha thanks. i aint a BIG nub if i am thrown into centos.. and i shouldnt be with debian to but. i aint experianced with debian so. |
| 21:23.27 | izigo | :) |
| 21:23.31 | xsdg | chops, stew: so it's a 32-bit address space problem, not an available-memory problem |
| 21:23.33 | _vvd | i have my partition table back :> |
| 21:23.37 | chops | izigo: No worries |
| 21:24.01 | nohup_ | chops: yeah.. but the free nvidia driver makes Xorg use 50% resources whe i'm idling... and in a xterminal i can almost type faster than X can display it... so that's a big big no-go |
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| 21:24.15 | chops | xsdg: I thought that highmem kernels were able to map a full 4 GB to each process. Even if they can't, though, the kernel can still use all the memory (even if any particular process can't). |
| 21:24.21 | nohup_ | yeah.. the highmem kernel uses EXTRA paging |
| 21:24.22 | chops | nohup_: nod |
| 21:24.26 | SiftinDotCom | seeking user feedback |
| 21:24.27 | nohup_ | so, even if it would work |
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| 21:24.32 | nohup_ | your memory access would get slower |
| 21:24.47 | stew | chops: by highmem, are you referring to a -686 |
| 21:24.49 | nohup_ | or atleast context switches probably will.. so i prefered a 64 bit kernel anyways |
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| 21:25.08 | chops | nohup_: It's a bad situation. Tell nvidia to support the free driver as intel's been doing for their hardware. |
| 21:25.09 | stew | chops: by highmem, are you referring to a -686 kernel that has the highmem4g option, or a -686-bigmem kernel with the highmem64g option (or both)/ |
| 21:25.12 | xsdg | chops: in my experience, that is not the case. And if you want a process to be able to use more than 3 gigs, you're out of luck without magic |
| 21:25.41 | prolix | ok. that makes sense |
| 21:25.49 | chops | stew: I was referring to the -686-bigmem kernel |
| 21:25.58 | nohup_ | chops: i'd rather have them fix their 64bit binary installer :) |
| 21:26.06 | chops | nohup_: nod |
| 21:26.08 | nohup_ | if i see what that free driver does, it seems like a lost-cause |
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| 21:26.15 | nohup_ | cause a few years ago it was 'workable' |
| 21:26.19 | WP-Gast624 | why |
| 21:26.20 | xsdg | stew, chops: I should note that the machine I was on had 16 gigs of memory, and was thus using highmem64g |
| 21:26.22 | chops | nohup_: That one might actually get done, too, unlike support for a good free driver :-( |
| 21:26.29 | nohup_ | now my computer feels like a 386 when running it |
| 21:26.35 | xsdg | chops: never heard of bigmem, though |
| 21:26.57 | chops | xsdg: What was your experience with it? Your kernel wasn't able to access all memory, or it was slow, or what? |
| 21:27.01 | xsdg | stew: *cough* |
| 21:27.01 | varconto | why |
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| 21:27.19 | nohup_ | but anyways |
| 21:27.19 | xsdg | chops: I could allocate more than ~3.1 gigs of memory in a single process |
| 21:27.30 | nohup_ | i'll just give up on this and send nvidia an email or smth |
| 21:27.33 | nohup_ | and try again in a few months |
| 21:27.34 | chops | has never used a 32-bit kernel on any machine with more than 1 GB of memory |
| 21:27.37 | xsdg | chops: couldn't* |
| 21:27.44 | nohup_ | chops: 3G will still work |
| 21:27.50 | xsdg | anyway, I need to jet |
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| 21:27.53 | xsdg | adieu |
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| 21:28.03 | chops | xsdg: Hm, makes sense. I thought that you could get the full 4 GB, but you seem to know better than I :-). |
| 21:28.05 | nohup_ | but once your main mem + IO mem > 4G -=> fucked |
| 21:28.05 | WP-Gast629 | -b |
| 21:28.05 | nohup_ | :) |
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| 21:28.23 | prolix | is there a way for someone to sync the clock on my machine through a remote connection? |
| 21:28.27 | cloakable | chops: I use 32bit with 2gb |
| 21:28.35 | WP-Gast629 | kldsaustla |
| 21:28.37 | nohup_ | but i'll just go back to 32 bit and be happy with 'only' 3300MB ram |
| 21:28.47 | chops | prolix: ssh prolix@host 'sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate start' is one way |
| 21:29.08 | prolix | chops: thank you |
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| 21:29.48 | chops | prolix: np |
| 21:29.52 | nohup_ | ok |
| 21:29.53 | nohup_ | reboot |
| 21:30.09 | prolix | i don't understand why my sudoers file didn't save the NOPASSWD argument from lastnight? |
| 21:30.26 | prolix | i feel like an idiot, but it's humbling |
| 21:30.33 | prolix | afk |
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| 21:35.55 | distatica | I was hoping someone could help me out here, I'm trying to read a document and don't quite understand what they are saying. Under "Server Interface IP Address" they say 192.168.0.1 is a good pick. However I took this section to mean the IP of the server on it's LAN. Where 192.168.0.1 is often the gateway. Here's the page: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/ppp-ssh/installation.html#PLANNING |
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| 21:38.02 | wfq | hi |
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| 21:38.43 | prolix | are there specific difficulties with maintaining debian on a dual boot system? |
| 21:38.56 | wfq | at last I reached to run the network manager but I can't still log on encrypted wifi networks |
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| 21:39.51 | samo | hi, setting up a new machine i ran into a pb. i installed xp then debian and even thogh i answered yes to the grub install question, the system keeps booting back in xp. |
| 21:40.20 | samo | i have now rebooted using the debian install cd and went into console but dont know how to use grub-installer... |
| 21:40.32 | maligor | rescue mode I guess? |
| 21:41.01 | dondelelcaro | samo: did you install grub to the MBR? |
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| 21:41.45 | dondelelcaro | samo: in any event, it's just a matter of chroot'ing to the mounted debian install, and running grub-install /dev/hda or grub-install /dev/sda; |
| 21:41.47 | samo | dondelcaro, i aswered yes to the grub to mbr question during setup |
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| 21:42.03 | prolix | samo: are you asking how to install grub from the terminal? |
| 21:42.17 | samo | prolix, i guess... |
| 21:42.43 | samo | dondelcar, when i type grub- and tab, it suggests grub-installer but not grub-install |
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| 21:43.26 | samo | debian / partition is on /dev/sda7 and windows (partition witht he boot according to fdisk -l) is on /dev/sda! |
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| 21:43.37 | samo | on /dev/sda1 sorry |
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| 21:44.14 | prolix | samo: there's a how to on how to get that done |
| 21:44.14 | maligor | it should be named grub-install |
| 21:44.32 | maligor | samo, did you use the rescue mode or installer and switched to a console? |
| 21:44.50 | prolix | samo: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#installing-GRUB-natively |
| 21:44.50 | samo | maligor, i lauched the install and after hardware detection went into console |
| 21:44.56 | samo | prolix, thanks |
| 21:45.01 | prolix | samo: you're welcome |
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| 21:47.13 | maligor | samo, oh, the rescue mode just automatically chroots to it |
| 21:47.22 | maligor | samo, that's probably why it's not finding grub-install |
| 21:47.44 | maligor | I just used it to fix my mbr a hour ago or so :P |
| 21:47.45 | wfq | does anyone on the earth know what WEP decrypt failed means? |
| 21:48.12 | samo | maligor, so i should i procede? |
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| 21:49.09 | maligor | samo, well, since I don't have a intimate knowledge of the installer contents, I recommend you reboot it and type 'rescue' in the boot prompt |
| 21:49.24 | maligor | it'll configure it automatically for rescue operations |
| 21:49.30 | enouf | samo: there's a few ways |
| 21:49.40 | samo | maligor, ok thanks i try that out |
| 21:49.50 | enouf | samo: from within "rescue" cd boot, use grub-installer |
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| 21:50.18 | enouf | samo: natively is another way the url shows |
| 21:50.27 | enouf | samo: and then you have this way |
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| 21:50.32 | enouf | !fixmbr |
| 21:50.32 | dpkg | So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub" |
| 21:50.51 | maligor | jeez |
| 21:50.56 | maligor | rescue is simpler |
| 21:51.04 | enouf | native is simplest |
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| 21:51.32 | enouf | !8ball 3 for the price of 1? |
| 21:51.33 | dpkg | Please ask again. |
| 21:51.42 | enouf | !8ball 3:1? |
| 21:51.43 | dpkg | I'm not sure. |
| 21:51.46 | samo | enouf, thanks for the info |
| 21:52.15 | enouf | np |
| 21:52.25 | samo | enouf, maligor, the rescue mode asks me for my root fileyse, should i pick the partition i used as / for debian ? |
| 21:52.32 | samo | or the one windows is on? |
| 21:52.33 | enouf | yes |
| 21:52.36 | enouf | no |
| 21:52.36 | samo | ok |
| 21:52.39 | amphi | heh |
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| 21:53.39 | maligor | the one for debian |
| 21:53.47 | samo | maligor, thanks |
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| 21:53.59 | maligor | windows has no root, there is no tree. |
| 21:54.03 | enouf | wintendo has no / |
| 21:54.20 | enouf | there is no spoon |
| 21:54.25 | maligor | it just has branches floating in midair |
| 21:54.49 | zinx | maligor: isn't that the most logical way to design a tree? |
| 21:55.02 | enouf | that fixmbr is easy as pie, no idea why people think you need a Phd to run a few bash commands :-p |
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| 21:55.45 | maligor | why does the fixmbr hfirst install grub and then update the configuration file? |
| 21:56.09 | maligor | or doesn't have have any say in the blob that's installed? |
| 21:56.55 | samo | maligor, i device.map, grub has hd0 /dev/hda and hd1 /dev/sda |
| 21:57.11 | samo | i want to boot on the sda, should i make it first? |
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| 21:57.26 | maligor | first? |
| 21:57.33 | samo | should i make it hd0? |
| 21:57.39 | maligor | those have no real say in boot order |
| 21:57.46 | maligor | it's just grub's way of identifying them |
| 21:58.01 | maligor | the bios decides what boots first |
| 21:58.04 | samo | ok |
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| 21:59.14 | muramasa | Has anyone any experience with HP Laptop webcams? I can't figure out how get it to function |
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| 21:59.35 | Solarion | ah-HA |
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| 21:59.50 | Solarion | for whatever reason, I was creating two sets of rules with the exact same target |
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| 22:00.30 | Solarion | this apparently caused the horkage! |
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| 22:01.57 | Solarion | nope, it's still whining at me |
| 22:02.28 | enouf | samo: the #groot= entry and the various root (hd0) lines determine the disk grub will look for it's files |
| 22:02.47 | samo | enouf, i used grub-install |
| 22:02.58 | samo | now i do have grub at boot up but neither debian or windows run |
| 22:03.18 | samo | windows lacks its ntdlr file and debian says : error 22 no such prtition |
| 22:03.30 | enouf | where's debian? sda or hda? |
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| 22:03.49 | samo | on /dev/sda |
| 22:03.57 | enouf | ok, so hd1 |
| 22:04.02 | samo | enou, yes |
| 22:04.12 | enouf | (according to your device.map) |
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| 22:04.20 | Solarion | ah, just had to re-rearrange something (-D -j <chain> *before* -X <chain>) |
| 22:04.34 | enouf | so alter menu.lst to say that in the #groot= entry and your root (hd1) lines |
| 22:04.42 | enouf | wintendo needs chainload +1 |
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| 22:05.46 | discoqueen | hey.. i followed this plan: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=17719 - but i get FATAL module ndiswrapper not found when i try to modprobe ndiswrapper. what is wrong? |
| 22:05.57 | discoqueen | i followed all the steps |
| 22:06.52 | lymeca | So I'm reading http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing and I'm very sad to see all of these non-DFSG free blobs in the kernel package in main in etch. |
| 22:07.06 | lymeca | Is there a guide specifying how to recompile to kernel to remove these blobs? |
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| 22:07.35 | tarkus | what do you guys think of this idea? let me know if you would use it if it was well implemented: http://dpaste.com/40492/ |
| 22:08.58 | maligor | presentation and browsing for something like that is hard |
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| 22:10.37 | enouf | samo: if your / debian is on sda1, #groot=(hd1,0) and "root (hd1,0)" is correct root line - make sure kernel lines say "...root=/dev/sda1 .." -- you could alter the #kopts=root= too eventually |
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| 22:12.25 | enouf | lymeca: you're the Adaptec RAID 31205 PCIe SAS, Opteron guy? |
| 22:12.34 | lymeca | Yup |
| 22:12.34 | lymeca | =] |
| 22:12.39 | enouf | :-P |
| 22:12.41 | lymeca | gpgv is broken |
| 22:12.44 | lymeca | which is sad |
| 22:12.50 | cleone | i don't remamber the name of the codec "win32codec" or what ???any one know the name of this codec |
| 22:12.55 | lymeca | because any package repo I choose it says it is untrusted |
| 22:13.14 | enouf | lymeca: if it's that much of a concern, build your own kernel |
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| 22:13.28 | enouf | !w32codecs |
| 22:13.28 | dpkg | w32codecs is probably a <non-free> package that is not distributed by Debian due to legal issues. The package provides codecs for several multimedia formats, such as AVI, Realmedia, and Windows Media. To get w32codecs, ask me about <debian-multimedia> |
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| 22:13.39 | lymeca | enouf: Yeah I guess I should do that. |
| 22:13.47 | lymeca | now the question is... |
| 22:13.56 | lymeca | vanilla kernel.org or Debian-way? |
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| 22:14.33 | enouf | well, i do both, but for specific reasons, like patching |
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| 22:14.51 | enouf | or, i use debian's kernel ;-) |
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| 22:15.14 | cleone | !debian-multimedia |
| 22:15.14 | dpkg | somebody said dmm was Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see . http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch> |
| 22:15.46 | enouf | !tell cleone -about selftell |
| 22:15.57 | cleone | lol |
| 22:16.00 | cleone | i know it |
| 22:16.01 | enouf | ;-) |
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| 22:16.26 | cleone | i want driver for my wifi |
| 22:16.26 | enouf | lymeca: see /topic |
| 22:16.35 | enouf | about gpg keys |
| 22:16.48 | discoqueen | how can i install the latest kernel and headers for unstable? |
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| 22:18.00 | lymeca | eounf: the gpg errors persist |
| 22:18.11 | lymeca | When I run gpgv as root: |
| 22:18.18 | lymeca | gpgv: keyblock resource '/root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error |
| 22:18.21 | enouf | gpgv? |
| 22:18.27 | enouf | why root? |
| 22:18.39 | lymeca | umm |
| 22:18.43 | enouf | i never run that stuff as root |
| 22:18.45 | lymeca | because that's what I run apt-get update as |
| 22:19.06 | enouf | just to install the key, i do as sudo |
| 22:19.10 | lymeca | well the same error happens for normal user |
| 22:19.12 | samo | enouf, after fixing the lines you told me about, it look s like debian might boot |
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| 22:19.15 | enouf | !apt-key |
| 22:19.19 | samo | enouf, i will test out windows right after |
| 22:19.28 | samo | enouf, maligor, thanks so much for your help |
| 22:19.45 | enouf | samo: np |
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| 22:20.03 | lymeca | Now tar is complaining about the time being in the future |
| 22:20.04 | lymeca | haha |
| 22:20.15 | lymeca | I've never had this many problems with Debian before. |
| 22:20.17 | lymeca | This is weird. |
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| 22:20.31 | enouf | read |
| 22:20.34 | enouf | done |
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| 22:21.02 | foncused | evenin |
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| 22:22.08 | tarkus | maligor, where you tlaking to me? |
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| 22:22.24 | foncused | any ebox users here today? |
| 22:22.43 | samo | enouf, windows doest boot... here is what it says : root (hd1,0) \n savedefault \n makeactive \n map (hd0) (hd1) \n map (hd1) (hd0) n chainloader +1 |
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| 22:24.24 | enouf | samo: no idea, either you need rootnoverify instead, or remove the map lines, and/or alter hd1,0 to hd0,0 |
| 22:24.35 | enouf | http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm samo |
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| 22:26.06 | enouf | mine is simply This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS \n on /dev/hda1 \n title Windows 98 \n root (hd0,0) \n chainloader +1 |
| 22:26.06 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:27.13 | enouf | actually, two empty lines before the last; savedefault and makeactive |
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| 22:27.52 | SexyKen | What does it mean when I have like 50 connections in netstat saying SYN_SENT |
| 22:27.57 | wfq | hi guys |
| 22:28.17 | wfq | How could I know what driver has been compiled for my intel graphic card? |
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| 22:29.02 | enouf | wfq: /msg dpkg which driver |
| 22:29.29 | samo | enouf, yep, i edited the grub commands using 'e' and it worked, now i just ahve to fix that menu.lst file for good. Thanks again ;-) |
| 22:29.53 | wfq | enouf, yes I know but I meant what driver has been matched to my current installation? Vesa, etc.. |
| 22:29.56 | enouf | SexyKen: stop simutaneously posting across multiple channels please |
| 22:30.05 | enouf | simul |
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| 22:30.21 | enouf | samo: beauty |
| 22:31.11 | wfq | I think I have my current setting in 800x600 or something so |
| 22:31.34 | enouf | i have no idea what you're asking |
| 22:31.35 | SexyKen | enouf: I'm looking in channels that can help wtf |
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| 22:35.52 | prolix | so i just read and confirmed that in dual boot systems that there is a problem with recognizing UTC as the correct local time. could that be why i can't seem to set the time in 4.0? |
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| 22:37.40 | enouf | !set time of day |
| 22:37.44 | enouf | !set time |
| 22:37.44 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch), dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid), and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 22:38.11 | prolix | enouf: thank you |
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| 22:38.25 | enouf | np |
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| 22:42.21 | prolix | enouf: :) |
| 22:43.06 | prolix | enouf: thank you to you and whoever wrote/contributed to that bot |
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| 22:46.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, actually this factoid fails to mention hwclock |
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| 22:47.25 | Seb | how does one actually "reload" the udev permanent rules ? |
| 22:47.29 | Seb | without rebooting, that is |
| 22:47.53 | cleone | how can i install jeva runtime |
| 22:48.12 | Seb | cleone: apt-cache search sun-java |
| 22:48.20 | Seb | cleone: and install the corresponding one |
| 22:49.00 | cleone | idon't have it on source.list |
| 22:49.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | !udev rules |
| 22:49.03 | dpkg | file:///usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html, or or read it online at http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
| 22:49.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | 2nd url, 'Putting your rules into action' should tell you |
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| 22:51.34 | Tazpa | cleone: sun-java packages are in non-free, not in main |
| 22:51.50 | cleone | so a need to add a line |
| 22:52.03 | cleone | on source/list |
| 22:52.08 | cleone | on source.list |
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| 22:57.39 | cleone | i don't found the package of java |
| 22:57.41 | cleone | Tazpa |
| 22:58.57 | Tazpa | cleone: etch? |
| 22:59.22 | ponyofdeath | anyone know of something similar to http://www.atlassian.com/software/fisheye/ thats GPL? |
| 22:59.32 | abrotman | !tell cleone about install java |
| 22:59.35 | abrotman | !tell cleone about nonfree |
| 22:59.58 | cleone | yes i have etch |
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| 23:05.06 | muramasa | Hello all. I'm trying to get my webcam to work, but I can't figure out what chipset it's using. Are there any ways to accomplish this? I know the idVendor and idProduct, if that helps |
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| 23:05.22 | enouf | Seb: udevcontrol reload_rules |
| 23:05.39 | hellop1 | Hello. Can someone help me figure out apt-get? When I do: apt-get install xserver-xorg, I get 30 drivers, I don't need like: s3, trident, savage, tseng. I just need vesa. How do I prevent the extra stuff from being installed? |
| 23:06.11 | Seb | enouf: ah nice |
| 23:06.14 | Seb | enouf: thx a lot |
| 23:06.24 | enouf | np |
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| 23:06.33 | Seb | the init.d script doesn't do that though ? |
| 23:07.04 | enouf | the init.d script starts and stops udev |
| 23:07.19 | wols | hellop1: you don't |
| 23:09.14 | hellop1 | . |
| 23:09.22 | valdyn | hellop1: by first installing the one you need manually |
| 23:09.38 | valdyn | hellop1: mind, just xserver-xorg and what it pulls wont get you a functional X |
| 23:10.00 | loulouloulou | hi all I have setup bind with recursion and I am using it as my only DNS server..but I can not ping any outside domains...what could the problem be ? thx |
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| 23:11.08 | valdyn | loulouloulou: ping does name lookup _and_ use network, one of both may not work, tells us what, or what ping's output is |
| 23:11.13 | Xcerca | i downloaed a program and it is a .deb , how do you install it ? |
| 23:11.27 | muramasa | http://pastebin.com/m21bceff6 does this provide any information on to what chipset my webcam uses? |
| 23:11.30 | hellop1 | val, yes I already installed icewm, and also doing xfonts-75dpi.. that should be all I need. But, when you say first, you mean I just install xserver-xorg-video-vesa then it won't install s3virge? |
| 23:11.31 | opensrcguru | !dpkg |
| 23:11.31 | dpkg | dpkg is, like, the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". also ask me about <apt howto>, or me. |
| 23:11.44 | valdyn | hellop1: yes, like that |
| 23:12.16 | hellop1 | herm... ok val let me try |
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| 23:13.16 | opensrcguru | loulouloulou: does your gateway allow icmp request/replies? |
| 23:13.32 | opensrcguru | opensrcguru: does 'host' or 'nslookup' work? |
| 23:13.35 | loulouloulou | opensrcguru, yes |
| 23:13.39 | loulouloulou | opensrcguru, |
| 23:13.40 | loulouloulou | C:\>nslookup gmail.com |
| 23:13.40 | loulouloulou | *** Can't find server name for address 192.168.1.4: Non-existent domain |
| 23:13.40 | loulouloulou | *** Default servers are not available |
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| 23:13.49 | hellop1 | val, that didn't work, just installing xserver-xorg-video-vesa, installs every driver, intel i810, ark, tseng... I deffinately don't have a 2mb ark video card. |
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| 23:14.01 | loulouloulou | sorry |
| 23:14.06 | hellop1 | Why does it do this and how do I tell it to stop? with a force no-deps? |
| 23:14.14 | abrotman | no |
| 23:14.34 | opensrcguru | loulouloulou: what are your forwarders? have you verified they work? |
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| 23:15.01 | valdyn | hellop1: no, you dont do that |
| 23:15.15 | valdyn | hellop1: you should be able to just remove the superflous drivers afterwards |
| 23:15.41 | valdyn | hellop1: the dependency is an OR, ( all or just one ), literally:"xserver-xorg-video-all | xserver-xorg-video-2" |
| 23:15.44 | hellop1 | val, I'm thinking install xserver, startx, then purge all those 40kb extraneous drivers |
| 23:16.58 | valdyn | hellop1: yea, that might work |
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| 23:17.27 | valdyn | hellop1: xserver-xorg is just a meta package btw |
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| 23:17.30 | hellop1 | valdyn, you you mean if I do a apt-cache show, then this line: Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.1.1-11), xserver-xorg-video-all | xserver-xorg-video-1.0, xserver-x org-input-all | xserver-xorg-input, tells me the deps and specifies "OR" |
| 23:17.40 | heroxbd | I am trying to use fxload(I use it to load firmware into Cypress 68013) on sid. But fxload is part of hotplug, which was replaced by udev in sid. What would you suppose me to use? udev or HAL? |
| 23:17.54 | hellop1 | so, if I satisify one of each of the or's first then it won't install any deps automatically? |
| 23:18.05 | valdyn | hellop1: it looks like that yes |
| 23:18.14 | valdyn | hellop1: but you dont even need the xserver-xorg package either |
| 23:18.34 | hellop1 | valdyn, yeah I'm trying to figure out "meta-package", like why installing kde installs a note taking program... |
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| 23:19.07 | hellop1 | valdyn, that's news. don't need xorg for icewm? |
| 23:19.20 | valdyn | hellop1: xserver-xorg is not "xorg2 |
| 23:19.21 | valdyn | hellop1: xserver-xorg is not "xorg" |
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| 23:19.44 | loulouloulou | opensrcguru, ...hmm..thx for the forwarders hint |
| 23:19.49 | loulouloulou | I will try that right away thx again |
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| 23:20.13 | valdyn | hellop1: im not sure what you think that xorg is, but complete xorg is all libraries + all drivers |
| 23:20.28 | valdyn | hellop1: most of which no one all needs at a time on the same computer |
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| 23:21.26 | hellop1 | valdyn, I just want to install a "kde" application, with a minimal as possible install, while having a taskbar, start-menu, time... |
| 23:21.39 | Jabka | how can i set icedove to get mails from local mailbox ? |
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| 23:21.41 | hellop1 | trying to fit it on a 1gb usb stick |
| 23:21.42 | enouf | stop trolling |
| 23:22.08 | abrotman | just kde .. |
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| 23:22.32 | hellop1 | valdyn, I dunno.. I thought xorg, was the replacement for XFree86, that specifies my I/O devices for X |
| 23:23.22 | enouf | and who's val? |
| 23:23.33 | abrotman | he can't nicktab |
| 23:24.04 | muramasa | Is it possible to disable the pc-speaker sounds? (guessing it's the pc-speaker, makes noise when trying to backspace when there's nothing to delete etc) |
| 23:24.11 | enouf | sounds about right ab |
| 23:24.14 | enouf | :-p |
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| 23:24.39 | enouf | !bell |
| 23:24.39 | dpkg | i guess bell is "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc, or or in konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell |
| 23:25.00 | enouf | i blacklisted mine though ;-) |
| 23:25.08 | Jabka | !mail |
| 23:25.09 | dpkg | hmm... mail is a great program for sending mail, or mutt can send mail from the command line with attachments, or elm rewarded the best emailer of 1999. Pine is out. |
| 23:25.26 | muramasa | I have no clue how to blacklist stuff heh |
| 23:25.39 | enouf | muramasa: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 23:25.49 | Jabka | auramasa : vim /etc/modp... |
| 23:25.57 | hellop1 | muramasa, like they said, man xset is what U want. yes I said U |
| 23:26.00 | abrotman | muramasa: google "etch blacklist pcspkr" |
| 23:26.24 | opensrcguru | muramasa: could unplug the pc speaker ;) |
| 23:26.36 | enouf | as root; echo "blacklist pcspkr" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 23:26.49 | abrotman | IIRC that's not enough |
| 23:26.59 | enouf | modprobe -r pcspkr priorthough, iirc |
| 23:27.19 | enouf | worked for me, maybe not in etch (shrug) |
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| 23:27.27 | dvs | enouf: I think you have to blacklist it from the boot option |
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| 23:27.41 | enouf | dvs: initrd? or /etc/modules? |
| 23:27.56 | dvs | enouf: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 23:28.09 | enouf | huh? |
| 23:28.11 | muramasa | oh, lots of highlighting at the same time heh. thanks everyone for that quick help ;) |
| 23:28.21 | enouf | kernel option? no wai |
| 23:28.59 | dvs | enouf: /msg dpkg installer blacklist |
| 23:29.09 | hellop1 | anyways, valdyn, I've been trying to minimalize this install for a week or so... occasionally deleting a bin dir here and there. Thanks for trying to help me. The whole OR thing really shed some light. tks |
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| 23:29.52 | enouf | dvs: i know all that, but pcspkr isn't one of those, and that's during installation anyway |
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| 23:30.01 | svalkii | http://www.svalki.info/index.php |
| 23:30.03 | svalkii | http://www.svalki.info/index.php |
| 23:30.07 | svalkii | http://www.svalki.info/index.php |
| 23:30.08 | Joelito | Got a questions: |
| 23:30.09 | svalkii | http://www.svalki.info/index.php |
| 23:30.09 | enouf | dvs: /msg dpkg blacklist-initramfs |
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| 23:30.38 | Joelito | a) Why is gnome-core bigger in testing than in stable? |
| 23:30.47 | abrotman | more stuff |
| 23:30.55 | enouf | Joelito: ask #gnome, or irc.gnome.org |
| 23:31.05 | abrotman | enouf: it has nothing to do with #gnome |
| 23:31.16 | Joelito | enouf: Is with debian repos |
| 23:31.26 | enouf | hrm |
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| 23:31.38 | Joelito | abrotman: Do you know some magic to reduce this :)? |
| 23:31.48 | enouf | !pal Joelito |
| 23:31.48 | dpkg | points at Joelito and laughs |
| 23:32.04 | enouf | gah .. wtf happened to hysterically? |
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| 23:32.24 | Joelito | b) Why some packages are bigger using aptitude than apt-get? |
| 23:32.40 | abrotman | Joelito: why ? if oyu want smaller .. don't use gnome |
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| 23:32.42 | abrotman | !install gnome |
| 23:32.42 | dpkg | To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <set up x>. |
| 23:33.32 | Joelito | abrotman: Actually, I want the gnome the same download size that in stable |
| 23:34.06 | abrotman | Joelito: SoL |
| 23:34.09 | abrotman | erm .. SOOL |
| 23:34.19 | enouf | abrotman: it's an early sunday .. enjoy |
| 23:34.42 | Joelito | abrotman: SOOL? |
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| 23:34.48 | abrotman | !sool |
| 23:34.48 | dpkg | [sool] see <sol>. |
| 23:34.50 | abrotman | !sol |
| 23:34.50 | dpkg | sol is probably Shit Outta Luck. Sex On Legs. Earth's star, or the note that precedes La, or but really straight out of luck, or a shit beer |
| 23:35.02 | dvs | oooooo. I like the second one! |
| 23:35.12 | Joelito | me too, :p |
| 23:35.14 | dan2 | sup abrotman |
| 23:35.17 | abrotman | hi dan2 |
| 23:35.26 | Joelito | ok, I understand |
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| 23:35.49 | dan2 | abrotman: you still living in KoP? |
| 23:35.51 | abrotman | Joelito: packages get bigger .. the metapackage may have more deps .. not much you can do about it |
| 23:35.59 | abrotman | dan2: i never lived there .. but i still live around there .. yes |
| 23:36.10 | dan2 | k |
| 23:36.11 | enouf | Joelito: some other options can easily be seen with apt-cache search x-window-manager |
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| 23:36.22 | dan2 | abrotman: I certainly would have thought you would have moved before I did |
| 23:36.28 | dan2 | abrotman: I moved to Houston in November |
| 23:36.34 | abrotman | dan2: you moved? or your dad moved? |
| 23:36.38 | dan2 | I did |
| 23:36.43 | abrotman | and i have a job here |
| 23:36.56 | abrotman | dan2: now you can hang out with jetscreamer |
| 23:37.07 | enouf | !8ball abrotman works? |
| 23:37.07 | dpkg | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 23:37.08 | dan2 | I am an independent contractor, currently working 2 contracts right now |
| 23:37.18 | muramasa | Ok... back again with another problem. I'm trying to compile linux-uvc, but get this error when doing 'make'. http://pastebin.com/m6a1b05dd |
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| 23:37.30 | abrotman | dan2: go to college |
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| 23:37.35 | muramasa | I understand the problem, with the non-existing folder, but I have no clue what I should do to fix it. Any ideas? |
| 23:37.43 | abrotman | !tell muramasa about search |
| 23:37.45 | ddalton | I get this error when connecting my phone to my computer. How do I stop linux from rejecting it? |
| 23:37.51 | dan2 | abrotman: and do what? |
| 23:37.53 | ddalton | usb 1-2.1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7 usb 1-2.1: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power usb 1-2.1: no configuration chosen from 1 choice |
| 23:37.58 | abrotman | dan2: nevermind |
| 23:38.16 | dan2 | abrotman: do beautiful women of course ;) |
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| 23:39.03 | enouf | ddalton: hi , how are you? it seems your host bus has no power, or not enough than your device requires |
| 23:39.21 | s0l5 | Has anyone tried using Windows Server 2003 as a base OS and then using VMware to install debian or fedora? |
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| 23:40.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, that would be like using a C64 to simulate a cray :-P |
| 23:40.29 | _vvd | i need it every day / i blame it on you / you always have control / now i don't |
| 23:40.38 | abrotman | dan2: no .. you're right .. ignore your childhood .. work til you die .. have fun |
| 23:40.57 | abrotman | s0l5: i'm sure someone has .. |
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| 23:41.10 | s0l5 | abrotman is it possible? |
| 23:41.15 | dan2 | abrotman: what childhood? |
| 23:41.17 | s0l5 | Mine keeps saying host os does not support it :S |
| 23:41.23 | abrotman | s0l5: ask #vmware |
| 23:41.27 | s0l5 | thanks |
| 23:41.29 | abrotman | dan2: yeah ... that was your fault |
| 23:41.29 | enouf | muramasa: as root, do this; modprobe -r pcspkr && echo "blacklist pcspkr" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 23:41.37 | Vambo | what's a good wireless signal strength monitor for etch? |
| 23:41.42 | J0N47H45 | hi people.. I use XFCE here.. and I installed KDE. After that, GDM started giving me an error message, saying I should change permissions in a file called .dmrc, so it is 755. I've done that already, but the error is still there.. I tried deleting the file, and the same error happens.. anyone have an idea? |
| 23:41.43 | abrotman | iwlist ? |
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| 23:42.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | Vambo, swscanner? |
| 23:42.58 | Vambo | CutMeOwnThroat, looking.... |
| 23:43.07 | enouf | J0N47H45: try dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 23:43.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's not anything else really, that I have seen |
| 23:43.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | so "only" == "best" |
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| 23:43.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell Vambo -about search |
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| 23:44.05 | Vambo | :-) |
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| 23:44.11 | enouf | J0N47H45: these are the perms for ~/.dmrc Access: (0600/-rw-------) Uid: ( 1000/user) Gid: ( 1000/user) |
| 23:45.08 | enouf | J0N47H45: try update-alternatives --config x-session-manager as well (as root) |
| 23:45.28 | J0N47H45 | thanx.. I'll try it |
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| 23:47.32 | enouf | J0N47H45: here's a few more X related; |
| 23:47.33 | enouf | x-cursor-theme x-session-manager x-terminal-emulator x-window-manager x-www-browser |
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| 23:50.30 | wd | jus config eth0 wireless using iwconfig/ifconfig.. i have network info present but cant ping. |
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| 23:53.20 | wols | wd: what does iwconfig say? |
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| 23:53.40 | enouf | muramas: heh, and yet another way; if alsa is setup correctly, and alsa-utils installed, in "alsamixer" is a pc speaker control :-P |
| 23:54.05 | wd | wols: u still here.. alright. thanks. it says |
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| 23:54.13 | enouf | hrm muramas == muramasa ? |
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| 23:55.12 | wd | wols: lo, tunl0, gre0 "no wireless extensions" but eth0 shows IEEE,ESSID AP everything |
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| 23:55.33 | aliumalik | does anyone know how I can get kde to install in sid? I am getting a lot of "depends on but will not be installed" errors |
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| 23:55.43 | abrotman | !install kde |
| 23:55.44 | dpkg | The metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, 'kdebase' is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at d-i's boot prompt. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall |
| 23:55.54 | abrotman | start smaller .. don't use sid if you don't know how to make it work |
| 23:56.33 | aliumalik | abrotman: I am trying to get a sid vm running on windows...that is why experimenting a bit |
| 23:56.35 | wd | wols: i entered all manually. i have dhcp but couldn't get it going so i entered next avail ip my router offered into the config file. |
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| 23:57.06 | _vvd | does debootstrap install all "standard"-packages? |
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| 23:57.16 | aliumalik | but I get errors like kdebase depends on konqueror but that package will not be installed |
| 23:57.25 | wd | wols: how can i check my services runnig? rc-status -a not working here. |
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| 23:58.54 | odla | does anyone know how i can remove one of the networks that network-manager automatically connects to? |
| 23:59.11 | enouf | !debootstrap |
| 23:59.11 | dpkg | hmm... debootstrap is <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/debootstrap, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a <chroot>. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html, or see http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap, or key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System. See to the release specific Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide for more details. |
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