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| 00:01.58 | Doug52392 | I'm online on my Debian PC now (i need X to configure the network card), how do I install all the stuff to build stuff? |
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| 00:02.50 | Doug52392 | like kernel modules, build, etc |
| 00:02.54 | pingouin | Doug52392: you can do it ( network conf card) in command line in console |
| 00:02.57 | KurtKraut | How do I create an ISO image from a CD ? |
| 00:03.05 | pingouin | KurtKraut: k3b |
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| 00:03.39 | nvz | Doug52392: apt-get install build-essential kernel-package module-assistant .. |
| 00:03.43 | pingouin | KurtKraut: k3b - A sophisticated KDE CD burning application |
| 00:03.53 | KurtKraut | pingouin: thanks |
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| 00:04.15 | nvz | Doug52392: and you do not need X to configure a network card |
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| 00:04.31 | jstephenson | How can I analyse system memory usage? |
| 00:04.45 | nvz | jstephenson: how so? |
| 00:05.15 | jstephenson | Ie, see what's using the 300MB of currently used memory. |
| 00:05.16 | nvz | I use htop or the gnome system info bar thing |
| 00:05.25 | pingouin | Doug52392: also, uname -a check the kernel version, and then, apt-cache search linux-headers-your_version |
| 00:05.34 | nvz | or gnome-system-monitor |
| 00:06.21 | jstephenson | CLI only - was using top but it can only account for a small amount of the used memory. |
| 00:06.38 | Doug52392 | My computer has a card that I need ndiswrapper, the drivers from Windows, or some custom drivers to use |
| 00:06.46 | nvz | use htop its nicer and run it as root to see everything |
| 00:06.56 | christoz | ok I've read the links tyou've sent me ...(your opinion would have been better though)...what's the difference using debian instead of ubuntu in an everyday simple use ? |
| 00:07.02 | pingouin | Doug52392: oh my god, it's and rj45 card ? |
| 00:07.11 | pingouin | or wifi stuff ? |
| 00:07.25 | pinto3 | is there a debian package or kernel patch that can map disk i/o to pid's? if i want to watch reads/writes in real time? |
| 00:07.31 | christoz | aren't there the same commands? |
| 00:07.38 | pingouin | christoz: ubuntu rely on debian, not the oposite ;) |
| 00:07.41 | nvz | christoz: sort of |
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| 00:08.00 | christoz | yes i i'm not here for argument |
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| 00:08.18 | christoz | just collecting info |
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| 00:08.35 | godfool | fron |
| 00:08.38 | pingouin | try the both and make you're own choose |
| 00:08.54 | nvz | christoz: its the difference between being a well off happy but ignorant bastard child, or a wealthy boy who knows who his real daddy is |
| 00:09.05 | pingouin | there is live cd of ubuntu i think |
| 00:09.15 | pingouin | ah ah ah nvz ;) |
| 00:09.19 | asg | pingouin: the installer is basically a live cd |
| 00:09.37 | pingouin | yeah ok, never used ubuntu |
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| 00:09.43 | pingouin | surely will never |
| 00:09.49 | V4Nelle | guys which is safer way to install debian?netinstall or from cd's? |
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| 00:09.55 | christoz | nvz i acan agree |
| 00:09.59 | christoz | *can |
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| 00:10.13 | asg | V4Nelle: is your network connection stable and supported? If so, the net install is a great way to go. |
| 00:10.18 | tesmar | hey, if I have ssh setup to only accept PUBLIC KEY, can I then setup proftpd to use passwds? |
| 00:10.18 | Tramp | pinto3: echo "1" >/proc/sys/vm/block_dump then cat /proc/kmesg |
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| 00:10.22 | pingouin | V4Nelle: there is not 'safer' way, use the one you need |
| 00:10.30 | pinto3 | thank you |
| 00:10.34 | nvz | if you could agree you wouldn't have asked the question |
| 00:10.37 | christoz | nvz but you shouldn't be so fanatic |
| 00:10.40 | pingouin | V4Nelle: if you have a good internet connexion go gor netinstall |
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| 00:10.53 | pingouin | s/gor/for |
| 00:11.07 | V4Nelle | ther is any another diffirents about those? |
| 00:11.07 | nvz | you shouldn't be so stupid, but its a basic law of human nature |
| 00:11.20 | asg | V4Nelle: no. |
| 00:11.27 | V4Nelle | ok guys.....thx |
| 00:11.30 | pingouin | some MO i guess |
| 00:11.42 | Doug52392 | how do i install libc header files? |
| 00:11.50 | tesmar | b/c I installed SSH as ONLY PK, but then proftpd is not accepting connections |
| 00:11.54 | asg | Doug52392: install build-essential |
| 00:12.02 | christoz | nvz don't tell me that |
| 00:12.03 | tesmar | and I used the chroot jail script |
| 00:12.09 | nvz | thinks he already said build-essential |
| 00:12.10 | tesmar | but just not accepting conditions |
| 00:12.40 | tesmar | any ideas on whether this will even work? |
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| 00:12.46 | pingouin | Doug52392: check what you need with apt-cache search <something> | less once located, apt-get install <what_you_found> |
| 00:12.52 | asg | Doug52392: and if you are installing ndiswrapper, just install module-assistant, run m-a prepare, then m-a a-i ndiswrapper. |
| 00:13.04 | twobitsprite | hey... what motherboard chipset is most recommended for linux? |
| 00:13.11 | pingouin | wich network board do you have Doug52392 ? |
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| 00:13.51 | nvz | I've built two cheap nvidia/sempron64 systems recently that run linux well |
| 00:14.06 | Doug52392 | I'm going to get the networking up and running once I get X up. How do I install all the kernel sources? |
| 00:14.25 | Doug52392 | Right now I'm plugged right into the router via Ethernet |
| 00:14.39 | pingouin | check my statements 8 lines yp |
| 00:14.39 | nvz | but i've got probably a million PI or PII class intell PIIX boards that run it well too |
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| 00:15.08 | twobitsprite | nvz, so nvidia or intel would work ok you're saying |
| 00:15.13 | pingouin | Doug52392: linux-headers-your_version |
| 00:15.51 | pingouin | twobitsprite: if you dont go for the most up to date one....should be ok |
| 00:15.52 | nvz | twobitsprite: for a cheap desktop I like the all nvidia approach the onboard vga is usually decent and everything is supported |
| 00:16.13 | twobitsprite | nvz: well, I'm getting a geforce for graphics |
| 00:16.35 | pingouin | there are ok too |
| 00:16.41 | nvz | the two systems I build I think had an nVidia GeForce 6100 northbridge and nForce 400 southbridge |
| 00:16.52 | pingouin | if you run the fxxxxing nvidia drivers |
| 00:16.54 | nvz | 5.1 audio, network. |
| 00:17.43 | nvz | they were both less than $200 for case, 1gb ram, mobo sempron approx 3400+ |
| 00:17.47 | pingouin | twobitsprite: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=phoronix_articles#Motherboards |
| 00:17.56 | twobitsprite | pingouin, well, of course I'm going to run the nvidia drivers :P I'm not spending $150 on a gfx card and using lame drivers :P |
| 00:18.15 | pingouin | it's not obvious...sorry ;) |
| 00:18.18 | nvz | !yinzersmite twobitsprite |
| 00:18.18 | dpkg | rode twobitsprite dahntahn ta go gall-a-vantin' da norside wif a Gian Iggle buggy like da rest of da bums. |
| 00:18.52 | twobitsprite | eh? |
| 00:19.13 | pingouin | hope nvidia will open this drivers one day and work with kernel dev |
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| 00:19.30 | pingouin | intel did, amd did, via announce to do so.... |
| 00:19.31 | twobitsprite | pingouin, it would be nice, but I'm not an open source purist.... :P |
| 00:19.34 | nvz | I hope a golden pig falls throught the roof |
| 00:19.43 | craigevil | has a crappy via mb/cpu with a nvidia 6200 runs just fine |
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| 00:20.05 | pingouin | twobitsprite: yeah me neither, but it would be more simple for everybody |
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| 00:20.15 | pingouin | installing those drivers can be painfull.... |
| 00:20.21 | craigevil | via is opening there hardware, so maybe their stuff will actually work one of these days |
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| 00:21.05 | Doug52392 | i installed the kernel sources and untared the file, but now when trying to compile NVIDIA Drivers, it says "Ther kernel header file version.h does not exist... most likely reason is kernel source files in /usr/src/linux-sources/2.6.18 have not been configured" |
| 00:21.08 | Doug52392 | what do I do? |
| 00:22.02 | pingouin | Doug52392: what kernel source did you installed/untared ?! |
| 00:22.35 | Doug52392 | 2.6.18, I ran apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18 |
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| 00:24.08 | godfool | fron |
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| 00:24.33 | pingouin | was not talking about the pain.... |
| 00:25.00 | Doug52392 | Anyone? |
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| 00:25.32 | pingouin | the uname -a and linux-sources match Doug52392 ? |
| 00:25.56 | jsubl2 | Doug52392: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 00:27.17 | Doug52392 | thanks :) |
| 00:28.19 | Doug52392 | X is up and running :) |
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| 00:28.51 | pingouin | congratulations |
| 00:28.54 | Doug52392 | Okay, now for the wireless card :| |
| 00:29.09 | pingouin | Doug52392: i can't help, i hate wireless |
| 00:29.20 | pingouin | it's not good for the health |
| 00:29.30 | pingouin | go to smoke a cigarette |
| 00:30.48 | Doug52392 | I do to, the Internet is sooo faster since I'm plugged right into the router :( |
| 00:30.51 | dniel | where is the next debconf? |
| 00:31.00 | Doug52392 | but my computer is usually in my room, far away from the router |
| 00:31.08 | dniel | is it in mar del plata? |
| 00:31.17 | pingouin | Doug52392: use cpl |
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| 00:32.14 | Doug52392 | How do I update everything? |
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| 00:32.28 | pingouin | Doug52392: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade |
| 00:32.59 | pingouin | should learn to use the replacement of apt-get.....i forgot the name |
| 00:33.16 | pingouin | aptitude or so... |
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| 00:35.21 | Doug52392 | I did that, all it did was download lists |
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| 00:35.42 | pingouin | even apt-get upgrade ? |
| 00:35.47 | Doug52392 | yes |
| 00:35.57 | pingouin | no message ? |
| 00:36.04 | pingouin | after the apt-get upgrade ? |
| 00:36.11 | jsubl2 | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 00:36.41 | pingouin | Doug52392: did you change your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 00:36.58 | s0lid | hi |
| 00:37.00 | pingouin | or it's still pointing to cd or so ? |
| 00:37.06 | pingouin | s0lid: hi |
| 00:37.11 | Doug52392 | it says Get and Ign different web sites, feached 2b in 0sec, then 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded |
| 00:37.18 | s0lid | what's should be the user for apache to make the folders be writable from websites? |
| 00:37.31 | Doug52392 | mostly http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/... |
| 00:37.54 | pingouin | Doug52392: so you're up to date i guess |
| 00:38.07 | pingouin | Doug52392: french install no ? |
| 00:38.13 | pingouin | s/french/fresh |
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| 00:38.54 | pingouin | s0lid: #apache |
| 00:39.13 | pingouin | the user who runs apache is www-data i guess |
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| 00:39.28 | Doug52392 | but isn't 2.6.24 the latest Linux kernel? i only have 2.6.18 |
| 00:39.35 | pingouin | Doug52392: :) |
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| 00:39.40 | s0lid | pingouin, there's no user apache |
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| 00:39.56 | s0lid | pingouin, oh ok |
| 00:39.58 | pingouin | s0lid: www-data on debian i think |
| 00:40.01 | s0lid | pingouin, you mean www-data |
| 00:40.25 | pingouin | but dont change directory chown to be www-date it's a bad idea i think |
| 00:40.52 | pingouin | there is directive to allow directory to be used instead of /var/www/ |
| 00:40.56 | s0lid | pingouin, why is that? |
| 00:41.12 | Doug52392 | so how do i get the latest version? |
| 00:41.17 | pingouin | Doug52392: you have it |
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| 00:41.27 | drcode | hi all |
| 00:41.43 | drcode | how can I find the largest folder size by console? |
| 00:41.44 | pingouin | Doug52392: in the debian way, you have the last version if you dont see a higher one with apt-cache search |
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| 00:42.16 | Doug52392 | oh :) |
| 00:42.44 | Doug52392 | I have a Linksys WMP54G v4.1 wi-fi card with the RaLink RT61 chipset, now I need to get that working :) |
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| 00:44.04 | asg | drcode: a combination of du(1) and sort(1) |
| 00:44.23 | Folk_Theory | peoples of the intertubes |
| 00:44.27 | Folk_Theory | I come in peace |
| 00:44.35 | Folk_Theory | take me to your lizard |
| 00:44.53 | pingouin | Doug52392: seems to be supported : http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=rt61 |
| 00:45.56 | Doug52392 | Should I install a network manager program? |
| 00:46.13 | pingouin | i dont know |
| 00:47.34 | Tramp | drcode: something like "find . -type d -execdir du {} \; | sort -n" - ymmv |
| 00:48.57 | jsubl2 | Doug52392: depends on your preference. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=17199 |
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| 00:52.37 | gonzaloaf | hi, where does debian get the locale? |
| 00:53.12 | Rhods | what is this error: "eth1:somethin wicked happened 0013" |
| 00:53.15 | gonzaloaf | hi, where does debian get the localization from? i |
| 00:53.49 | \amethyst | !locale |
| 00:53.49 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, locale is set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers) |
| 00:54.34 | Folk_Theory | wow that was surprisingly clear |
| 00:54.43 | Folk_Theory | even though it makes no grammatical sense |
| 00:56.07 | Rhods | someone knows what is this error: "eth1:something wicked happened 0013" |
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| 00:56.16 | asg | Rhods: google it |
| 00:57.05 | Rhods | thanks |
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| 00:58.00 | Doug52392 | How do I get my Linksys WMP54G with a RaLink RT61 chipset working? |
| 00:59.24 | pingouin | what did you do for it until now ? |
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| 00:59.32 | pingouin | drivers installed ? or not ? |
| 00:59.33 | fas3r | hello everybody |
| 00:59.38 | heroxbd | Hello. I'm using a USB-wireless Adapter with ndiswrapper. It's unstable. Do I have an alternative? |
| 00:59.44 | Doug52392 | I was using ndiswrapper, but I can't remeber what I did to get it working :( |
| 00:59.51 | fas3r | when i execute nrpe request ( with check_nrpe on nagios) who are execute the script on the remote machin ? |
| 00:59.51 | Doug52392 | plus there were many problems I still had |
| 00:59.53 | fas3r | it's the user nagios or it's in anonymous ? |
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| 01:00.02 | pingouin | Doug52392: you're card seem to be supported |
| 01:00.02 | Doug52392 | like it would stop working randomly |
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| 01:00.12 | Doug52392 | I don't see it anywhere |
| 01:00.29 | heroxbd | Doug52392: Yes. It breaks down during SSH sessions. |
| 01:00.32 | Coweater | why can't i edit accelerators in some applications? |
| 01:01.16 | pingouin | Doug52392: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers |
| 01:01.24 | \amethyst | Coweater: perhaps they use gtk menus instead of Gnome ones? |
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| 01:01.32 | heroxbd | Doug52392: When it stops working, all I have to do is to reboot... rmmod ndiswrapper hangs my computer |
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| 01:01.59 | pingouin | Linksys WMP54G v4 |
| 01:02.05 | Coweater | i'm not using gnome, and i have several plain gtk apps that let me edit accels |
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| 01:02.25 | \amethyst | Coweater: for example? |
| 01:02.56 | Coweater | xchat, pidgin |
| 01:03.14 | heroxbd | pingouin: Great! your hyperlink is very useful. I will read it carefully. |
| 01:03.52 | \amethyst | Coweater: hm, and what's an example of one that doesn't work |
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| 01:04.22 | Coweater | ristretto right now, i forget the others |
| 01:04.24 | Doug52392 | So where do I get the drivers? |
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| 01:04.53 | pingouin | Doug52392: apt-get install wireless-tools - Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions |
| 01:04.58 | pingouin | Doug52392: you'll need that also |
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| 01:05.47 | Doug52392 | I ran iwconfig, it says theres no network cards with wireless extensions |
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| 01:06.01 | pingouin | Doug52392: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Downloads |
| 01:06.18 | pingouin | Doug52392: but... |
| 01:06.32 | pingouin | Doug52392: maybe you need to check if there is not a driver in the kernel before |
| 01:06.42 | pingouin | Doug52392: i dont know much in wireless |
| 01:06.49 | pingouin | Doug52392: apt-get install modconf |
| 01:07.05 | heroxbd | my ndiswrapper says "Realtek RTL8187 Wireless LAN USB NIC". Maybe it's a good news. |
| 01:07.09 | lastnode | Doug52392: do lsmod | grep rt |
| 01:07.27 | pingouin | Doug52392: then go root, and modconf , then check the modules list if you have something for your card |
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| 01:08.05 | fas3r | nobody ? |
| 01:08.17 | Tramp | !tell Doug52392 about rt61 |
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| 01:08.26 | cusco | hi... |
| 01:08.35 | cusco | im using cut with e delimiter of " " |
| 01:08.36 | cusco | a space |
| 01:08.45 | cusco | now im showing fields 4 and 5 |
| 01:08.51 | cusco | cut -d " " -f4-5 |
| 01:09.09 | cusco | it shows up: field4 field5 |
| 01:09.28 | cusco | with the delimited char in there. Is there a way to leave the delimited char out? |
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| 01:10.47 | asg | cusco: the --output-delimiter option (see the manpage) |
| 01:10.49 | Tramp | cusco: --output-delimiter |
| 01:11.04 | Doug52392 | I compiled the rt61 driver, and I have rt61.ko. What do I do with the driver now? |
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| 01:12.30 | wd | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.39 | wd | ledet, i'm using sarge |
| 01:12.44 | asg | wd: smbfs |
| 01:12.56 | heroxbd | !tell cusco about enter |
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| 01:13.32 | terrin | What are some games that can be run either from the commandline or (preferably) via ssh? |
| 01:13.33 | wd | asg, ok. i'm using sarge ppc for old world nubus mac... i wanted smbfs but was told to use cifs.. samba is no more. |
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| 01:13.48 | wd | asg, i just want to mount a linux samba server. |
| 01:13.49 | thechef | kdesktop was able to lock Ctrl+Alt+F1 |
| 01:14.05 | asg | wd: you still need the smbfs tools. You'll modeprobe cifs and use mount.smbfs with the 'cifs' filesystem |
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| 01:14.18 | \amethyst | terrin: what kind of game are you looking for? |
| 01:14.24 | thechef | But that should not be able as far as i know. How can I prevent it from locking Ctrl+Alt+F1 |
| 01:14.27 | dondelelcaro | wd: you probably should upgrade to etch while you're at it, too. |
| 01:14.29 | ledet | wd: if you have cifs support, you dont need to download anything |
| 01:14.35 | terrin | Anything really. Was trying to find an oregon trails clone but seems one doesn't exist |
| 01:14.39 | ledet | wd: dont remember what's in sarge though |
| 01:14.47 | MRproblem | can i choose to install debian as a server or dns server after i chose to install it as desktop?and what packages will each opion install |
| 01:14.52 | ledet | wd: try # modprobe cifs |
| 01:14.58 | ledet | wd: and see if that goes well |
| 01:15.09 | wd | dondelelcaro, afraid to upgrade... this is a special kernel for old world nubus macs... :( |
| 01:15.12 | dondelelcaro | MRproblem: yes, but generally you should just install the specific packages that you need. |
| 01:15.25 | dondelelcaro | wd: you don't need to upgrade the kernel too |
| 01:15.31 | dondelelcaro | wd: though it usually is a good idea |
| 01:15.53 | MRproblem | dondelelcaro, thx,how ?could i know each option will install ? |
| 01:15.58 | dondelelcaro | (though there is some argument about the nubus support bitrotting, everything else for ppc works) |
| 01:16.03 | ledet | wd: oh, if it's a homemade kernel theres a possibility that you didnt include the cifs module when you built it |
| 01:16.09 | \amethyst | !faq easily |
| 01:16.09 | dpkg | easily: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 01:16.10 | \amethyst | doh |
| 01:16.31 | thechef | Because if an application is able to lock Ctrl+Alt+F1 that means that under certain circumstances an application can lock all input and make me unable to regain control of the computer which would force me to hard reset the computer and i'm never going to do that |
| 01:16.34 | dondelelcaro | MRproblem: tasksel --task-packages; or similar. man tasksel |
| 01:16.43 | ledet | wd: anyway... if you have the smbfs module, this should work too... although it may not be reliable... |
| 01:17.03 | MRproblem | dondelelcaro, thx?still curious if i could know what pal |
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| 01:17.18 | MRproblem | packages each option will install |
| 01:17.20 | cusco | thanks asg and Tramp |
| 01:17.22 | wd | ledet, ok so just get smbfs and i should be fine? |
| 01:17.23 | arooni | whats a better server distro? ubuntu || debian etch? |
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| 01:17.30 | dondelelcaro | MRproblem: yes, and that's what will tell you. |
| 01:17.34 | cafuego | arooni: yes |
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| 01:17.39 | dondelelcaro | arooni: you're in #debian. Guess what we'll tell you? |
| 01:17.42 | MRproblem | dondelelcaro, okay |
| 01:17.46 | MRproblem | heheh |
| 01:17.48 | black_13 | is possible to install debian using removeable hard drive (i dont have a cdrom on the computer) |
| 01:17.52 | dondelelcaro | black_13: yes. |
| 01:17.59 | dondelelcaro | !tell black_13 -about ig |
| 01:18.04 | black_13 | ig? |
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| 01:18.15 | dondelelcaro | black_13: installation guide. Read what dpkg told you. |
| 01:18.24 | asg | wd: if this is a linux -> linux connection, you should also look at sshfs (simpler setup, much more secure, etc) |
| 01:18.33 | black_13 | ah sorry about that |
| 01:18.46 | ledet | wd: smbfs should either be compiled into you kernel or be compiled as a module |
| 01:18.58 | ledet | wd: which means there isnt much to "get" as such |
| 01:19.15 | dondelelcaro | black_13: almost all of the common methods of installing are documented there; there are a few that aren't, but they're logical extensions of the ones that are documented there |
| 01:19.19 | cafuego | wd: Just keep in mind smbfs won't work until you install the 'smbfs' package (which contains some utils) |
| 01:19.24 | black_13 | dondelelcaro, what section of the guide discusses this |
| 01:19.33 | wd | asg, ok |
| 01:19.39 | wd | ledet, ok |
| 01:19.49 | ledet | wd: you could try installing a stock kernel and see if that works... it would make you life a whole lot easier... and if it doesnt work, you still have your old kernel |
| 01:20.00 | wd | cafuego, ok i'm getting it now.. but i'll cancel and check out sshfs |
| 01:20.13 | dondelelcaro | black_13: the "installation media" bit? |
| 01:20.17 | wd | ledet, wow.. challenging. |
| 01:20.22 | black_13 | im reading that |
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| 01:20.36 | cusco | using a bash script; does anyone know what the OR simbols is? |
| 01:20.45 | cafuego | wd: sshfs is okay, but I wouldn't use it on atrusted lan, it has cpu overhead and not very fast. |
| 01:20.46 | black_13 | but i dont see anything that pops out |
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| 01:21.03 | dondelelcaro | black_13: section 2.2.3 |
| 01:21.13 | cusco | like.. for i in $(ls *jpg) OR i in $(ls *JPG); do |
| 01:21.17 | cusco | is it ||? |
| 01:21.20 | black_13 | oh im in 5.xx |
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| 01:21.37 | dondelelcaro | cusco: it's just for in in $(ls *.jpg) $(ls .JPG); do |
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| 01:21.51 | cafuego | cusco: for i in $(ls *.[Jj[Pp][Gg]); do foo; done |
| 01:22.00 | dondelelcaro | cusco: though in this case, something like for a in *.jpg *.JPG; is saner. |
| 01:22.01 | cafuego | or ls *.jpg *.JPG |
| 01:22.02 | black_13 | Booting the installation system directly from a hard disk is another option for many architectures. This will require some other operating system to load the installer onto the hard disk. |
| 01:22.14 | cafuego | but that won't get JPg or JpG etc |
| 01:22.18 | dondelelcaro | right |
| 01:22.23 | black_13 | doesnt say how just that that it might be done |
| 01:22.27 | cafuego | and leet filenaming can be a nice sport ;-) |
| 01:22.47 | cusco | dondelelcaro & cafuego ok thanks |
| 01:22.49 | dondelelcaro | black_13: then see section 4.5? |
| 01:23.02 | wd | ledet, got smbfs and it installed samba-common and other libs... mount -t smbfs worked just like my gentoo box... yay. |
| 01:23.24 | dondelelcaro | black_13: you've got to actually try to find this stuff; it's all there, and I wouldn't tell you to look at the documentation if it wasn't |
| 01:23.31 | ledet | wd: is it a 2.6 kernel? |
| 01:23.46 | wd | ledet, 2.4 |
| 01:23.51 | black_13 | dondelelcaro, i was hoping for a step by step guide |
| 01:24.29 | heroxbd | I have a NetGear wg111v3 (USB-wireless) with Realtek 8187 chip. When I do "modprobe rt8187" nothing comes up. |
| 01:24.30 | ledet | wd: oh... in that case, all is good... i assumed you were using 2.6... i'm not sure theres a cifs module for 2.4 anyway... so smbfs is probably not too bad |
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| 01:25.38 | cafuego | heroxbd: good. no errors means it worked. |
| 01:26.37 | heroxbd | cafuego: The LED on WG111v3 is not on. and dmesg gives no clue that a "wlanX" has come up. |
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| 01:27.18 | cafuego | heroxbd: It's probably not called wlanX but ethX, try 'ifconfig -a' or 'iwconfig' |
| 01:27.29 | wd | ledet, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=19915&highlight=powerbook+1400 |
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| 01:27.42 | wd | ledet, i followed this ^^^^ |
| 01:28.02 | cafuego | wow |
| 01:28.11 | heroxbd | cafuego: no he is not there. (neither in ifconfig nor iwconfig) |
| 01:28.24 | cafuego | heroxbd: Anything about missing firmware in dmesg? |
| 01:29.11 | heroxbd | cafuego: oh? what's the firmware's use? maybe you can call the bot to tell me :) |
| 01:29.27 | dondelelcaro | black_13: uh... it is one. |
| 01:29.36 | MRproblem | dondelelcaro, like i run sudo tasksel,and i unselect desktop option and select dns server,will that uninstall desktop packages |
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| 01:29.49 | dondelelcaro | MRproblem: just use aptitude to do that if that's what you want to do |
| 01:29.50 | wd | ledet, uname -srv on nubus old world mac... Linux 2.4.30-pre1 |
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| 01:30.11 | dondelelcaro | MRproblem: it'll only remove those packages which are automatically installed, but usually that's what you actually want anyway |
| 01:30.57 | black_13 | i need to bite the bullet purchase a usb cd |
| 01:30.59 | heroxbd | cafuego: should I use firmware-ralink? ( I'm in sid) |
| 01:31.43 | heroxbd | cafuego: no.... it is not for realtek.... |
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| 01:32.19 | heroxbd | cafuego: I'll search the net first. Thank you. |
| 01:32.26 | nse | new kernel for testing folks! |
| 01:32.53 | ApOgEE- | hi all, can anyone please tell me what is mmu-less? |
| 01:34.57 | wd | ledet, did u check out the link? |
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| 01:40.35 | asg | ApOgEE-: apt-get install dict ; dict mmu |
| 01:40.49 | cafuego | heroxbd: I don't know for sure that it might need firmware, but I think checking would be a good idea. |
| 01:41.38 | cmwt | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.40 | ApOgEE- | thanks asg |
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| 01:46.58 | Doug52392 | How do I allow logon as root in GDM? |
| 01:47.42 | MRproblem | lol |
| 01:48.05 | MRproblem | in system>admin>somewhere,don't remember |
| 01:48.12 | lastnode | Doug52392: that's not recommended btw |
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| 01:52.24 | heroxbd | cafuego: According to http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187 , that is a problem not seeing wlanX after "modprobe rtl8187" |
| 01:52.50 | ampex2 | tc is surprisingly powerful as a traffic shaper |
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| 01:53.08 | ampex2 | htb works well |
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| 01:57.23 | MrKeuner | hi, can I log vino connection attempts? |
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| 02:01.26 | The-Kernel | what's the latest stable? |
| 02:01.35 | The-Kernel | the nickname that is |
| 02:01.49 | The-Kernel | lenny? |
| 02:01.50 | stew | The-Kernel: etch |
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| 02:01.59 | The-Kernel | how do i tell which on I have? |
| 02:01.59 | stew | The-Kernel: lenny will be the next |
| 02:02.05 | The-Kernel | one* |
| 02:02.11 | The-Kernel | like cat /proc/version |
| 02:02.14 | stew | The-Kernel: cat /etc/debian-version |
| 02:02.21 | pingouin | why do i have a small square box on some of yours statements heroxbd ? it's me or what ? |
| 02:02.43 | The-Kernel | it just says 4.0 |
| 02:02.49 | stew | The-Kernel: that is etch |
| 02:02.49 | The-Kernel | is there anything newer thats stable? |
| 02:02.57 | stew | The-Kernel: no |
| 02:03.02 | heroxbd | pingouin: pardon? |
| 02:03.05 | MRproblem | guys,i want to know about this,you kow when you run apt-get install something,it will download from web and put in in /apt/cache .somewhere,now i have the cd,i extract all these things to my disk,disable internet repos,then how do i link it with that dir,to make apt-get use /lenny cd /pool/ directly |
| 02:03.11 | The-Kernel | I noticed in the topic id says 4.0r3 |
| 02:03.13 | pingouin | heroxbd: french ? |
| 02:03.37 | heroxbd | heroxbd: me? I speak English and Chinese. |
| 02:03.43 | pingouin | good |
| 02:03.44 | stew | The-Kernel: yes 4.0r3 is the current revision of 4.0 |
| 02:03.58 | stew | The-Kernel: 4.0r3 would not show up in /etc/debian-version though, just 4.0 |
| 02:04.14 | cafuego | raid rebuild complete |
| 02:04.16 | pingouin | heroxbd: so i wondered why i got a small square box when you talk... |
| 02:04.25 | The-Kernel | stew how do I know if I'm up to that one? Or would it already be up to that because I do the upgrades right? |
| 02:04.28 | pingouin | somewhere in the line |
| 02:04.48 | stew | The-Kernel: do you have a security.debian.org line in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 02:04.56 | pingouin | i think it useless to paste it, as it's surely display ok on your screen |
| 02:04.57 | The-Kernel | I'll see |
| 02:05.17 | heroxbd | pingouin: small square box? maybe it connects with your IRC client... |
| 02:05.19 | The-Kernel | stew yes |
| 02:05.21 | MRproblem | guys,i want to know about this,you kow when you run apt-get install something,it will download from web and put in in /apt/cache .somewhere,now i have the cd,i extract all these things to my disk,disable internet repos,then how do i link it with that dir,to make apt-get use /lenny cd /pool/ directly |
| 02:05.31 | Doug52392 | How do I mount an LVM partition in Debian? |
| 02:05.36 | enouf | heroxbd: nah, i see it too |
| 02:05.44 | stew | The-Kernel: then as long as 'aptitude update ; aptitude upgrade' doesn't want to upgrade any packages, you are up to date |
| 02:06.00 | The-Kernel | nice |
| 02:06.02 | heroxbd | enouf: ?? like what? I am using pidgin... |
| 02:06.02 | The-Kernel | ok thanks st |
| 02:06.04 | The-Kernel | stew |
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| 02:07.07 | pingouin | heroxbd: strange.... term_charset = UTF-8 |
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| 02:07.31 | enouf | heroxbd: looks like this; Âenouf: ?? like what? I am using pidgin... |
| 02:07.35 | Doug52392 | Anyone |
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| 02:07.49 | The-Kernel | are there any extra sources I can add? |
| 02:07.51 | Bob_A_Bowie | whats a better choice, debian or gentoo and why |
| 02:08.02 | asg | Bob_A_Bowie: the former ; /msg dpkg why debian |
| 02:08.06 | pingouin | Bob_A_Bowie: ah ah ah ;) |
| 02:08.10 | enouf | but yours is a bit smaller |
| 02:08.21 | heroxbd | oh? yes I use UTF-8. but I didn't input any non-ASCII character. |
| 02:08.26 | Bob_A_Bowie | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.27 | Bob_A_Bowie | thank you |
| 02:08.40 | asg | Doug52392: does lvdisplay list your logical volumes? |
| 02:08.56 | enouf | heroxbd: well, my client see utf-8 fine, but not specific asian fonts |
| 02:09.13 | pingouin | aaaah asian fonts...there it is ? |
| 02:09.20 | pingouin | i dont display them also... |
| 02:09.27 | enouf | JIS, Big5, etc |
| 02:09.29 | enouf | Kanji |
| 02:09.41 | pingouin | sushi |
| 02:09.55 | heroxbd | enouf: I think I didn't use any asian fonts. BTW: my locale is en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 02:10.08 | \amethyst | heroxbd: there was a U+FEFF at the beginning of one of your lines |
| 02:10.18 | ma3x | someone please help me setup my usb headphones in linux? |
| 02:10.22 | enouf | heroxbd: your pidgen needs some plucking then ;-) |
| 02:10.43 | heroxbd | amethyst: I will look up what the dam code is. |
| 02:10.53 | \amethyst | heroxbd: zero-width no-break space |
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| 02:11.05 | \amethyst | heroxbd: or a byte-order mark |
| 02:11.07 | enouf | heroxbd: it's gone now |
| 02:11.26 | heroxbd | enouf: ?? does it come up randomly? |
| 02:11.47 | enouf | last time i saw it was when i showed you what it looked like |
| 02:12.07 | heroxbd | enouf: as this? |
| 02:12.18 | enouf | yes - there it is |
| 02:12.31 | enouf | so stop that, whatever it is ;-) |
| 02:12.34 | \amethyst | heroxbd: it last appeared when you said 'enouf: ?? like what? I am using pidgin...' |
| 02:12.49 | Doug52392 | yes |
| 02:12.52 | \amethyst | heroxbd: before that, it was appearing at the beginning of each line; after that, it stopped appearing |
| 02:13.00 | Doug52392 | lvdisplay shows the LVM partitions |
| 02:13.13 | \amethyst | heroxbd: oh, "enouf: as this?" also had it |
| 02:13.14 | enouf | and now; [22:07:30] <heroxbd> enouf: as this? <-- last time |
| 02:13.16 | heroxbd | enouf: and this time there isn't.... I know I can reproduce it with "copy" and "paste". If I type in the name, it won't appear. |
| 02:13.17 | \amethyst | heroxbd: what's the difference? |
| 02:13.24 | \amethyst | ahh |
| 02:13.26 | Doug52392 | How do I mount the LVM partition? |
| 02:13.49 | enouf | copy/paste? no tab completion? |
| 02:13.50 | asg | Doug52392: then mount the device listed by LV NAME to a mountpoint |
| 02:13.54 | \amethyst | sounds like it's copying and/or pasting stupid invisible characters that it shouldn't be |
| 02:14.03 | heroxbd | Maybe i need patch my clipboad |
| 02:14.04 | enouf | a tab char likely |
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| 02:14.21 | asg | Doug52392: i.e., mount /dev/volume_group_whatever_you_named_it/logical_volume_etc /mnt/profit |
| 02:14.30 | Doug52392 | It doesn't exist |
| 02:14.32 | cafuego | Doug52392: of device-mapper is running it'll be /dev/<vgname>/<lvname> |
| 02:14.42 | cafuego | s/og/if/ |
| 02:14.45 | heroxbd | enouf: there is tab completion? not pidgin.... Jeeee I am using stone aged irc client...... |
| 02:14.48 | Doug52392 | theres no /dev/VolGroup... |
| 02:14.48 | MRproblem | so shall i ln -s /lenny cd/pool/main /var/apt/cache |
| 02:14.58 | cafuego | Doug52392: So device-mapper isn't running. |
| 02:14.58 | enouf | heroxbd: type en<tab><tab> to get my nick |
| 02:15.38 | heroxbd | no not in pidgin.... I am going to find a client inside emacs and come back... |
| 02:15.47 | enouf | ok, that's nasty |
| 02:16.01 | cafuego | pidgin is an in client with an irc plugin, not an irc client. |
| 02:16.06 | enouf | might be a config option |
| 02:16.25 | enouf | "auto-complete nicks on tab completion" or someshit |
| 02:16.39 | Doug52392 | how do i start it? |
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| 02:18.29 | enouf | Doug52392: dpkg -l lvm2 | tail -1 |
| 02:18.37 | MRproblem | enouf, hi,if i extract lenny cd to a dir on disk,then ln -s /lenny cd/pool/main/ /var/apt/cache,and disable internent repos,will apt-get use that repos directly?i mean it won't copy (download) packages to /var/apt/cache/ again,thanks |
| 02:19.24 | vinboy | does debian have any commercial support option? |
| 02:19.24 | enouf | MRproblem: 1st, try adding a blank space after every comma, like this ;-) |
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| 02:19.44 | enouf | !dfsg |
| 02:19.45 | dpkg | well, dfsg is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 02:19.47 | asg | vinboy: I believe HP provides commercial support for Debian. It did at one time I know. |
| 02:19.53 | vinboy | oh ic |
| 02:20.12 | enouf | oh, my bad, i guess i misunderstood? |
| 02:20.13 | MRproblem | enouf, sir,i don't get you mean |
| 02:20.31 | enouf | enouf, sir, i don't get you mean <-- like that |
| 02:21.02 | asg | vinboy: http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 02:21.03 | MRproblem | is my command right?or no? |
| 02:21.12 | asg | vinboy: there's a large list of other options there |
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| 02:21.30 | vinboy | thanks asg |
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| 02:21.43 | enouf | MRproblem: and after any/all punctuation characters, such as '?' as well |
| 02:22.10 | enouf | MRproblem: i have no idea what you're trying to achieve |
| 02:22.32 | MRproblem | enouf, you said earlier?it is |
| 02:22.50 | enouf | huh? |
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| 02:24.38 | enouf | MRproblem: as best i can tell, you might want apt-cdrom .. so do; /msg dpkg apt-cdrom |
| 02:25.08 | MRproblem | enouf, it is i want to disable internet repos,coz it is slow,and use packages inside lenny cd,in a word,i want to use lenny cd as a repos,and i don't want it to copy packages to /var/apt/cache/,so i ln -s /lenny cd/pool/main /var/apt/cache/.that is all |
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| 02:25.30 | inazad | someone here already spoofed his own computer on a LAN ? |
| 02:25.31 | enouf | !apt-cdrom |
| 02:25.31 | dpkg | i guess apt-cdrom is used to add new CDROMS to the apts list of available sources. Ask me about apt-cdrom_external |
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| 02:25.45 | heroxbd | I am back, armed with ERC |
| 02:26.13 | MRproblem | will it work?the point is i don't want apt-get copy packages to /var/apt/cache/, |
| 02:26.18 | enouf | heroxbd: better so far |
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| 02:26.32 | enouf | why not? |
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| 02:27.03 | heroxbd | enouf: good, I can use tab now. Seems that I have wasted quite a lot of time doing <copy> and <paste> :( |
| 02:27.22 | MRproblem | why cannot it use it directly,if i ln -s /lenny cd/pool/main/ /var/apt/cache,enouf |
| 02:27.24 | enouf | heroxbd: indeed - now, enjoy ;-) |
| 02:27.45 | enouf | MRproblem: no idea, and we never discussed this previously |
| 02:27.57 | enouf | !tias |
| 02:27.57 | dpkg | from memory, tias is try it and see, or what you should have done first |
| 02:28.00 | MRproblem | ..................... |
| 02:28.06 | enouf | ............. |
| 02:28.24 | enouf | =========D |
| 02:29.27 | enouf | MRproblem: and please read over what i mentioned about commas, punctuation and spaces - it's hard to read without them |
| 02:30.25 | MRproblem | i don' t speak english...and i even don't know what commas mean and putuation |
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| 02:30.54 | enouf | you speak english ok |
| 02:31.12 | asg | putuates enouf |
| 02:31.22 | MRproblem | somany word,i don't know the meaning, |
| 02:32.04 | enouf | basques in the sunlight of puntuitiveness |
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| 02:32.27 | asg | MRproblem: have you asked in #debian-zh? |
| 02:32.27 | enouf | MRproblem: a , is a comma |
| 02:32.43 | MRproblem | no people there |
| 02:33.35 | asg | MRproblem: on oftc.net, not freenode |
| 02:34.51 | MRproblem | kay,17 people there |
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| 02:37.49 | chickamade | which one is better, swf-player or gnash? |
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| 02:38.04 | enouf | mplayeer |
| 02:38.08 | enouf | er mplayer |
| 02:38.33 | chickamade | is there a browser plugin though? |
| 02:38.55 | shib[BNC] | trying to install libgtk2.0-0 from source and wondering what this (http://pastebin.com/m791270a) error means? |
| 02:39.18 | heroxbd | mplayer? with mozilla-mplayer plugin? |
| 02:39.50 | chickamade | i didn't know that could play flash, thanks |
| 02:40.18 | enouf | i use mplayer directly |
| 02:41.04 | chickamade | I guess that's better, albeit less convenient |
| 02:41.32 | enouf | and i don't use iceweasel/firefox/mozilla |
| 02:41.36 | shib[BNC] | er, by source i mean `apt-get source libgtk2.0-0` ... `dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b` |
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| 02:41.49 | enouf | but i guess there are plugins |
| 02:41.56 | chickamade | @enouf what do you use? opera? |
| 02:42.04 | heroxbd | enouf: Then what do you use? w3m? lynx? |
| 02:42.18 | enouf | chickamade: links2 -g |
| 02:42.26 | Tapout | anyone know how I can take postfix mail from an old server -> new server? i've got <directory>/new/* ... all filled with emails, I want to forward to the new server so that I can retire this old one |
| 02:42.56 | asg | shib[BNC]: did you run 'apt-get build-dep libgtk2.0-0' first? |
| 02:43.13 | shib[BNC] | asg, yep :) |
| 02:43.23 | asg | Tapout: that should be answered in the postfix faq |
| 02:43.37 | Tapout | asg, you know something.. I didn't even think of the FAQ .. thanks :) |
| 02:43.38 | asg | shib[BNC]: ah, hmmm |
| 02:45.06 | enouf | shib[BNC]: i thought of a missing depends possibly too - but that's an odd error - is build-essential installed? |
| 02:45.28 | heroxbd | enouf: It seems awesome! I should arm with these great packages first ;) |
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| 02:45.40 | shib[BNC] | enouf, yeah... i've been building stuff all day settling dependacy issues :p |
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| 02:46.29 | enouf | ok folks, gotta relax a bit |
| 02:46.52 | TCossuto | what is libXtst.so.6 and why can't VMWare find it when I've got libXtst installed? Along with glibc? |
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| 02:48.11 | shib[BNC] | asg, would any other information be helpful? |
| 02:49.05 | heroxbd | TCossuto: maybe you can sybolink libXtst.so.X (other than 6) to *.so.6 to dirtily tackle this. |
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| 02:49.58 | TCossuto | what does the so.X stand for? |
| 02:50.58 | TCossuto | also, /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 does exist |
| 02:51.00 | heroxbd | TCossuto: oh can you find the "libXtst.so.6" on your box? |
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| 02:51.14 | keropok | lol |
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| 02:52.03 | heroxbd | TCossuto: i c... maybe you can use strace to figure out why VMWare cannot find it. |
| 02:52.27 | vinboy | hi |
| 02:52.40 | vinboy | where can I find info about how packages go from experimental to unstable to testing ? |
| 02:52.42 | heroxbd | TCossuto: I used that successfully with Labview. Think the same trick do with VMWare |
| 02:53.13 | shib[BNC] | the weird thing about that error (http://pastebin.com/m791270a in case you're just tuning in) is that I even have directfb installed... so I don't even know why it's trying to build it? |
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| 02:53.30 | asg | shib[BNC]: I'm at a loss, sorry |
| 02:53.58 | shib[BNC] | no problem asg :) |
| 02:54.23 | mrnull | Is it possible to install the laptop base package after the initial debian install? |
| 02:55.02 | hark | mrnull: yes, run tasksel |
| 02:55.43 | mrnull | hark: how? |
| 02:57.09 | hark | mrnull: man tasksel, tasksel install laptop |
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| 02:59.16 | MrKeuner | can I log vino connection attempts? |
| 03:00.00 | lagbolt | vinboy, debian.org |
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| 03:01.27 | cyzie | hi, the colour of the video in my system suddenly changed. how can i restore the color shown in the video ? |
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| 03:02.46 | heroxbd | shib[BNC]: maybe you can ask on your package's mailing list. |
| 03:04.29 | heroxbd | cyzie: what about the color of the terminal |
| 03:04.44 | cyzie | just the same |
| 03:04.53 | cyzie | only video output from video player is different |
| 03:04.58 | shib[BNC] | heroxbd, yeah, i'm trying a few more things here then i'll have to find a ML or something... |
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| 03:09.02 | Doug52392 | How do I get my PCI Linksys WMP54G v4.1 wireless card working? |
| 03:09.56 | heroxbd | Doug52392: You are still trapped with your wireless ;) |
| 03:10.01 | Doug52392 | yes :( |
| 03:10.18 | heroxbd | Doug52392: How's it now? |
| 03:10.20 | Doug52392 | I'm more stuck than I was with Fedora, I at least got that little light on the card to turn on after 5 hours :( |
| 03:10.46 | Doug52392 | system still doesn't do anything with it, the light doesn't even turn on |
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| 03:11.15 | heroxbd | Doug52392: Can you lspci -vv to see it? |
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| 03:12.17 | Doug52392 | I can see it |
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| 03:13.45 | heroxbd | Doug52392: Hmmm.. What have you already done with it? BTW: I can see that my WG111v3 is RTL8187B, which is not offically supported yet. And I will play with with patch when I have enough time. |
| 03:14.23 | heroxbd | Doug52392: What's your chipset? Is it offically supported by the kernel? |
| 03:14.34 | Doug52392 | RaLink RT61 |
| 03:14.57 | Doug52392 | I installed: serialmonkey drivers (doesn't seem to do anything, I can't find out where to configure it), ndiswrapper (didn't take any drivers), serialmonkey rt2500, |
| 03:15.34 | heroxbd | Doug52392: You've used ndiswrapper and it was not stable, yes? |
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| 03:15.59 | Doug52392 | yes, but it at least worked :) |
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| 03:16.59 | heroxbd | Doug52392: Oh. I remember you are supposed to use rt61 firmware. |
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| 03:17.34 | Doug52392 | how do i configure the rt61 firmware? |
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| 03:20.34 | Doug52392 | w00t |
| 03:20.44 | Doug52392 | the little light is at least on now, the drivers loaded! :) |
| 03:20.58 | heroxbd | Doug52392: Wow |
| 03:21.01 | Doug52392 | yup, im getting a signel now |
| 03:21.18 | Doug52392 | now i just got to configure everything :) |
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| 03:24.45 | Doug52392 | it's working now :) |
| 03:24.59 | heroxbd | Doug52392: Good for you! |
| 03:25.25 | Doug52392 | Now I have to clean up the mess I made (bolth on the computer and the fact that everything is on the floor of the living room) |
| 03:25.31 | Doug52392 | bye |
| 03:25.37 | Doug52392 | and thanks :) |
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| 03:31.17 | Strogg | Has anyone here setup virtual users in vsftpd? I'm following through the steps in the example, but then it gets to the part where I copy their vsftp pam file over into /etc/pam.d, but debian has one there already. |
| 03:31.27 | Strogg | am I supposed to add to it? replace it? |
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| 03:32.04 | andrboot | Hi all.. can someone tell me if my tuner card has actually loaded? http://pb.udderweb.com/256 |
| 03:32.13 | andrboot | mythv isn't picking iup thats all :( lol |
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| 03:33.49 | esaym | ps aux shows a process named " -:0 " What the heck is that? |
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| 03:38.31 | Azar | thanks guys |
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| 03:38.41 | Azar | rahul, still here? |
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| 03:46.06 | mcbane | hi |
| 03:48.01 | mcbane | is there a programm that can produce ITunes/Quicktime compatible advanced mp4 files? By Advanced I mean for example with more than one audiotrack or to create chapter markers or to edit the Track names ... |
| 03:50.16 | beardy | mcbane: Those aren't compatible with much else, and proprietary crap formats, aren't they? |
| 03:51.16 | shib[BNC] | can someone spread some light as to why pkg-config would be doing this sort of behavior -> http://pastebin.com/m24250521 ? |
| 03:51.30 | vinboy | hi |
| 03:51.42 | vinboy | is there any programs that allows me to print a webpage to PDF? |
| 03:53.24 | mcbane | beardy: As far as I know Apple uses standard mp4. However there are at least 2 ways to implement chapter markers and Apple uses the more complicated one. Furthermore there is the requirenment to put some extra atoms in the file to tell quicktime /Itunes not to play all audio tracks at once. But this does not break kompatibility. |
| 03:53.42 | mcbane | beardy: But I am no expert in this area. |
| 03:54.59 | mcbane | vinboy: you could set up a pdf printer on your system. Than you could produce a pdf from everything that is printable. |
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| 03:56.09 | mcbane | vinboy: cups has support for pdf printers right builtin, I think. |
| 03:56.18 | vinboy | mcbane: i found the cups-pdf |
| 03:57.00 | beardy | vinboy: That'll do yes. Also ghostscript may have some html2ps, then ps2pdf, might be in another package though.. but yes. |
| 03:57.08 | ectospasm | anyone here try to install Eve Online on their x86_64 system? |
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| 04:00.06 | beardy | vinboy: /usr/bin/html2ps) in text/html2ps , /usr/bin/{ps2pdf|ps2pdf12|ps2pdf13|...}) in text/gs-common |
| 04:00.26 | vinboy | i actually found an easier way.. substitute kprinter for lpr |
| 04:00.34 | Strogg | hrmm how do you figureout what version of db your pam wants to use for its files? |
| 04:01.15 | beardy | vinboy: Ok, that's good. |
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| 04:08.10 | chickamade | is anyone using vlc and pulseaudio, it seems vlc take a while to start making sounds? |
| 04:11.05 | andrboot | Hi all.. can someone tell me if my tuner card has actually loaded? http://pb.udderweb.com/256 |
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| 04:15.50 | black_13 | what is a nice light weight window manager |
| 04:18.19 | Xenguy | fluxbox |
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| 04:19.41 | Cobra| | black_13: there's fluxbox, openbox, xmonad, wmii... it's a matter of taste, really |
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| 04:31.30 | fas3r | stupid question : NRPE Agent is a service in all case (linux,windows,etc ..) . It execute remote command on remote computer and return the result on the local computer. In the case where the first Agent is in Linux computer ( Agent1 ) and the client is a windows computer ( CLient1 ). what is the user who execute the command on the remote computer ? it's the Agent1(the linux account) or... |
| 04:31.32 | fas3r | ...it's the "system local account" of the windows nrpe services ? |
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| 04:47.46 | SerajewelKS | i'm having issues with bluetooth and dund. i've enabled dund, but i cannot get my Tungsten T to connect to it, and the error message is not helpful. |
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| 04:58.51 | Miesco | Any news on whether nvidia will somewhat work in lenny? |
| 05:00.17 | Miesco | Like there isn't even the source on lenny |
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| 05:09.57 | dondelelcaro | Miesco: things supported by nv will work fine |
| 05:10.48 | dondelelcaro | Miesco: otherwise, you'll have to use the versions in unstable or wait for them to propogate |
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| 05:25.45 | wildwobby | I need help... |
| 05:25.45 | wildwobby | http://wildwobby.myminicity.com/ |
| 05:26.32 | hoxu | wildwobby, don't spam here |
| 05:26.54 | wildwobby | hoxu... sorry, I think I have a virus it does that for every room I join |
| 05:27.37 | hoxu | wildwobby, Mac OS X virus? Now that's likely! How come you are on #debian then? |
| 05:27.49 | wildwobby | I use both... |
| 05:27.58 | Guerin | ... |
| 05:28.15 | hoxu | wildwobby, well, if you are aware of that, it's about time to fix it up |
| 05:28.31 | hoxu | wildwobby, like, try shooting yourself in the leg or something |
| 05:28.35 | wildwobby | Aight... I will try reinstalling |
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| 05:28.54 | hoxu | Guerin, what are the readings on the bullshit radar? :p |
| 05:29.27 | Guerin | mine is broken from overuse, but I can practically smell it |
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| 05:29.46 | hoxu | Mac OS X viruses must be nasty, registering a myminicity account for your username and then spamming it, oh the woe... |
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| 05:31.31 | black_13 | what package contains xstart? |
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| 05:32.46 | cafuego | You want startx, not xstart. |
| 05:33.03 | xtknight | that's in xinit |
| 05:33.12 | black_13 | dur |
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| 05:33.52 | black_13 | cafuego, i get the nice herringbone pattern |
| 05:34.32 | black_13 | !xorg |
| 05:34.32 | dpkg | i guess xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.3. Ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg (freenode), or ask about <drxx> to reconfigure. |
| 05:34.37 | xtknight | black_13, what video card? |
| 05:34.52 | black_13 | hang on |
| 05:34.58 | cafuego | black_13: So it starts X. That's what you want, isn't it? |
| 05:35.18 | black_13 | yes |
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| 05:35.31 | xtknight | o do u mean checkerboard standard X background or a corrupted image |
| 05:35.31 | cafuego | black_13: Add a call to your window or x session manager in ~/.xession, so startx will have something to run :-) |
| 05:35.40 | xtknight | i thoght he meant his video was crapping out |
| 05:36.04 | cafuego | xtknight: No, the grey herringbone is the X server. He just needs a client to make it be pretty and useful. |
| 05:36.17 | cafuego | Like gnome or fuxbox or whatever |
| 05:36.45 | black_13 | fluxbox works but the resolution stinks |
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| 05:43.24 | black_13 | is lspci still aplicable? |
| 05:43.59 | WormFood | lspci still does what it is supposed to do, if that is what you mean |
| 05:45.20 | black_13 | what package installs it? |
| 05:46.07 | cafuego | pciutils |
| 05:46.59 | WormFood | yeah...what cafuego said |
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| 05:48.16 | black_13 | intel 82810E graphics card |
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| 05:48.41 | peterius | I'm trying to get a battery monitor "applet" on the panel in gnome and everything I put their quits unexpectedly |
| 05:48.53 | hoxu | black_13, you can use apt-file to search for packages that install certain files |
| 05:49.01 | black_13 | thanks |
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| 05:49.10 | peterius | I tried to report the bug but the bugreporter says I need a newer version and then my email bounced back and said I needed a newer version, but its a fresh install of debian and there's no upgrades |
| 05:49.16 | hoxu | peterius, start them from a terminal and see if you get any errors |
| 05:49.34 | peterius | hoxu: how do you find them from a terminal? like battstat for instance? |
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| 05:49.57 | peterius | hoxu: one of them I found from a terminal and I think it was accessing the wrong /proc entry because it said something about file not found |
| 05:50.03 | hoxu | !search |
| 05:50.04 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'. Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org/ or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here. '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt |
| 05:50.22 | vinboy | hi |
| 05:50.24 | hoxu | peterius, are you using a debian kernel? |
| 05:50.33 | vinboy | is it possible to get color output from apt-get search? |
| 05:50.37 | peterius | that could be it, no, its a custom kernel hoxu |
| 05:50.52 | hoxu | peterius, that indeed probably explains a lot of things :) |
| 05:50.54 | peterius | hoxu: but its got all the acpi stuff in it |
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| 05:51.09 | black_13 | is there an automatic configurator for xorg? |
| 05:51.22 | peterius | hoxu: and I know that sounds like OMG, that's the problem, but I used the same kernel with an earlier install of the OS with enlightenment and a battery monitor applet all compiled from source |
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| 05:52.03 | peterius | are gnome applets binaries? |
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| 05:53.04 | peterius | I mean are they just like plugins with gtk calls? |
| 05:53.12 | killerchicken | Is there a policy for removing packages? In http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/signing-party/ there is a package versioned 0.4.9, and a package 1.0. I'm looking for 0.4.13, which used to exist in that place |
| 05:53.34 | Bowie | software raid on debian seems to take up a lot more system resources than that on centos 5 |
| 05:53.50 | Bowie | the drive appears to be constantly updating |
| 05:54.29 | Bowie | is this a known issue, or is there some way to check why my main software raid device needs to almost constantly sync? |
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| 05:54.51 | peterius | hoxu: okay, I found battstat-applet-2 the first culprit... running it from terminal seems to do nothing... so I'll strace it |
| 05:56.10 | Agiofws | i am clicking on firefox icon it is runnning but the DE thinks its a dual head system and isopening on the 2nd monitor can anyone help me with this problem ? |
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| 05:56.49 | Bob_A_Bowie | please? anyone? how do I check whats going on with software raid??? |
| 05:57.18 | peterius | bob_a_bowie: you'd think out of 800 people there would be someone who specifically knew about raid sync frequency |
| 05:57.32 | WormFood | Bob_A_Bowie, try "cat /proc/mdstats" or look for a "md" file in /proc....if that isn't the right name |
| 05:57.35 | black_13 | what happened to XF86Config ? |
| 05:58.22 | pinto3 | it got replaced somewhere between woody and etch |
| 05:59.21 | Bob_A_Bowie | hmm - this is the first time ive booted - I think its just doing a resynch on the big device and its taking a little while |
| 05:59.25 | peterius | why does my bug reporter tool say its more than 6 months old when I just installed debian a couple weeks ago? |
| 05:59.44 | black_13 | pinto3, with what? |
| 05:59.48 | Bob_A_Bowie | status is active/resyncing |
| 05:59.57 | Bob_A_Bowie | id sure like to keep that to a minimum |
| 06:00.06 | peterius | how old is debian's version of gnome? |
| 06:00.12 | pinto3 | xorg.conf or someting |
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| 06:02.15 | peterius | how stable is lenny? |
| 06:02.39 | hoxu | peterius, it's not |
| 06:02.55 | peterius | hoxu: does it have a working battery monitor? ;-) |
| 06:03.26 | peterius | hoxu: so can you execute gnome applets from terminal? |
| 06:03.26 | hoxu | peterius, it's testing, expect things to be broken occasionally, and prepare to read bts and report bugs... dunno about battery monitor, I'm pretty sure you can get one in etch, you could try a debian kernel |
| 06:03.37 | hoxu | peterius, no clue, sorry |
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| 06:04.03 | peterius | hoxu: does this stuff get any easier? |
| 06:04.14 | Agiofws | is anyone using bitlbee ? |
| 06:04.16 | hoxu | peterius, in lenny? |
| 06:04.30 | hoxu | !ask |
| 06:04.30 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 06:04.33 | peterius | hoxu: no I mean... this, everything, I feel like I've been learning to be a system administrator for ten years |
| 06:05.18 | hoxu | peterius, well, laptops are nasty animals... different from regular servers :P |
| 06:06.20 | peterius | hoxu: yeah... life goes on |
| 06:07.54 | Agiofws | i am clicking on firefox icon it is runnning i can see it in the system monitor but the DE thinks its a dual head system and is opening on the 2nd monitor but the window does not even show up in any panel !!!!!!! can anyone help me with this problem ? |
| 06:08.14 | Guerin | Agiofws: i recommend a new DE |
| 06:08.23 | hoxu | !!! |
| 06:08.24 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 06:08.24 | Agiofws | xfce works fine |
| 06:08.30 | hoxu | !!!! |
| 06:08.30 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 06:08.30 | Guerin | apparently not |
| 06:08.38 | Agiofws | something is wrong somewhere |
| 06:08.44 | Guerin | quite evident |
| 06:09.04 | hoxu | Agiofws, looks like you should adjust your keyboard's repeat rate |
| 06:09.31 | Agiofws | hoxu, ? |
| 06:10.01 | killerchicken | Agiofws: There's no need to use more than one exclamation mark. |
| 06:10.42 | hoxu | Agiofws, xset r may help against getting multiple spaces and exclamation marks and so on |
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| 06:13.00 | lymeca | So R300 is the best ATI-brand GPUs which will work fully with 3-D accel with Free Software drivers? |
| 06:13.00 | Agiofws | maybe this helps ? |
| 06:13.04 | Agiofws | agiofws@ixus:/etc/X11$paste < xorg.conf |
| 06:13.04 | Agiofws | Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/TnJVLm73.html |
| 06:13.20 | lymeca | R400/R500 is still being worked on? |
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| 06:16.14 | Bob_A_Bowie | how do I change my default mirror? |
| 06:16.34 | beardy | !sources.list |
| 06:16.35 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 06:17.16 | Bob_A_Bowie | yeah i need the list of mirrors |
| 06:17.51 | beardy | !mirrors |
| 06:17.52 | dpkg | somebody said debian mirrors was http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 06:19.16 | Bob_A_Bowie | thank you |
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| 06:22.29 | peterius | all these battery stat "applets" do is query /proc/acpi/battery, I can read the damn thing, if I could draw a battery, I could make my own applet |
| 06:22.48 | peterius | but they all say there's no support in the kernel because they look for something weird, like /proc/acpi/info which I don't have |
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| 06:26.16 | hoxu | peterius, you kind of need the battery info to show how many %s are left |
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| 06:26.40 | peterius | hoxu: I have /proc/acpi/battery/info, but I don't have /proc/acpi/info |
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| 06:27.17 | peterius | hoxu: I found a python applet on the web that just reads the info like the enlighmtent applet I used to have did, I'm not a huge fan of python but its better than nothing, except I don't know how to install python scripts into the panel |
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| 06:27.55 | peterius | hoxu: also if there is some legitimately less intensive way of doing it through libacpi I would prefer that, but apparently all those applets don't like my system... |
| 06:28.08 | hoxu | peterius, I'd recompile the kernel to see if adding anything helps if I were you |
| 06:28.47 | peterius | I just checked... the necessary ACPI stuff is there... I don't know what libacpi is accessing or how its accessing such that its telling the applets not to work |
| 06:28.59 | peterius | hoxu: maybe its trying to insmod and I have them compiled into the thing |
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| 06:29.47 | hoxu | peterius, I don't think that's the case, I have a custom kernel on my laptop running etch + backports, and I don't use modules... no problems with battery applets |
| 06:30.10 | peterius | do you know if the applets that work use libacpi? and if so what libacpi wants? |
| 06:30.34 | hoxu | sorry, no clue |
| 06:31.33 | peterius | procfs and acpi and apm options are all on in my kernel |
| 06:32.04 | hoxu | you could pastebin your config, maybe someone here has ideas |
| 06:32.58 | peterius | which config? |
| 06:33.04 | hoxu | kernel |
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| 06:39.07 | peterius | hoxu: I should get some sleep, maybe I'll paste it tomorrow |
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| 06:39.23 | hoxu | good night then :) |
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| 06:39.47 | peterius | hoxu: like someone is going to read through it and realize the one weird kernelspace call support or whatever that libacpi needs that the battery stats need |
| 06:39.51 | peterius | nothing ever works |
| 06:40.06 | hoxu | stock debian kernels usually work :P |
| 06:40.22 | peterius | hoxu: right... change NOTHING, don't even use the system, and it will "work" |
| 06:40.57 | hoxu | well, get some sleep and it'll look better, trust me :p |
| 06:41.07 | peterius | hoxu: it never does but I'll get some sleep |
| 06:41.14 | peterius | its been years already |
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| 06:43.00 | vinboy | hi |
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| 06:43.11 | hoxu | lo, how can we depress you today? |
| 06:43.15 | vinboy | if I installed a packaged from experimental (through apt pinning) |
| 06:43.27 | lonejack | I've a problem with a web cam. I know that for somebody that web cam work fine over ubuntu but not for me. is there a developer so kind to help me to understand why? On my pc I obtain a behavior (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4700766#post4700766) on the other we have another(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4704344#post4704344). please, can someone help me? Thank you, lonejack |
| 06:43.31 | hoxu | vinboy, ... you would probably be on your own :) |
| 06:43.40 | vinboy | will apt-get auto upgrade it from experimental next time? or from my standard lenny repos? |
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| 06:44.21 | hoxu | lonejack, are you using ubuntu? |
| 06:45.13 | lonejack | hoxu, yes I'm. But I think that the problem exist also over debian |
| 06:45.19 | MuffinFlavored | I Does anyone know why when I switch from an Xorg session, to a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F1), the screen becomes black (the monitor does not turn off), and I am forced to restart my system? |
| 06:46.10 | Guerin | MuffinFlavored: check you x logs |
| 06:46.14 | hoxu | lonejack, ubuntu is quite different animal from debian, you are better off asking support on #ubuntu, though I don't know about this particular case... |
| 06:47.02 | Guerin | all ubuntu queries get answered in #ubuntu, regardless of whether they also apparently exist in debian |
| 06:47.31 | lonejack | hoxu: I tryed.... thx a lot. bye |
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| 06:54.59 | ampex2 | Tapout: if you're using IMAP, I just imapsync |
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| 07:03.06 | dimir | Morning! |
| 07:03.27 | abchirk | huhu |
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| 07:10.56 | iunixan | is it possible to use regexp with "wget"? |
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| 07:13.13 | dimir | nope |
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| 07:13.58 | dimir | Unless you are making a request to a web server that supports them. |
| 07:14.14 | dimir | Supports requests like that that is. |
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| 07:15.41 | roler | how come I can go "ping alkjerlkjslke.com and I get a response from my own server? obviously this domain does not exist |
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| 07:23.00 | SerajewelKS | can ppp interfaces be added to bridges? |
| 07:23.20 | liable | dont see why not |
| 07:24.40 | Flash_ | to make them open for boats? |
| 07:25.22 | evildarknight | how to startup apps in etch??? no xinitrc file is present using icewm as wm :-D |
| 07:26.09 | SerajewelKS | liable: the only thing i can see is that i thought bridges operated at the ethernet level, and ppp operates at the ip level |
| 07:27.17 | SerajewelKS | basically what i'm trying to do is give a ppp device access to my network. i could do that with masquerading, but i'm not sure how to properly set that up and tear it down in an ad-hoc manner. (new ppp devices may spring up from nowhere) |
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| 07:31.03 | Guerin | evildarknight: make one |
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| 07:32.16 | evildarknight | ok i'll try thnx wasn't sure if it would work:-D |
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| 07:33.45 | kaje | what does it mean when a directory has a bunch of question marks where the 'd', owner, group, size, etc...? The text color of the directory name is bright red too |
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| 07:34.29 | pawbie | kaje: A broken share? |
| 07:34.29 | the_sniff | anyone knows what does kernel: journal commit I/O error mean? googling found some answers about bugfixes in RH |
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| 07:34.58 | kaje | No, it shouldn't be an SMB or NFS share or anything... it was just a regular directory on the disk |
| 07:35.38 | pawbie | kaje: Not a symlink? |
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| 07:35.38 | liable | SerajewelKS: i dont know actually. give it a try ;) |
| 07:35.38 | kaje | pretty sure it wasn't |
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| 07:51.54 | Zoup | When using Lenny and Lenny installer ( beta 1 DI ) , on installing postgresql while im still at installer , no config file at /etc/postgresql is generated , any ide a? |
| 07:51.55 | iKernel | is it possible to do a full reinstall from network, as well as by using existing .debs on hard drive, without erasing any data? |
| 07:53.05 | Guerin | Zoup: here's an idea: don't use beta installers |
| 07:53.26 | Guerin | iKernel: with good backups, certainly. |
| 07:53.46 | Zoup | Guerin: so , you mean with stable installer postgresql package will get installed perfectly ? i guess its more related to postgresql package |
| 07:54.12 | Guerin | Zoup: well, lenny IS testing. if you use the stable installer, it'll install the stable package. |
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| 07:54.27 | Guerin | Zoup: if you want to know about the lenny pgsql package, /msg dpkg bts |
| 07:54.41 | iKernel | Guerin backups would be rather complicated, because my system configuration is a little screwed |
| 07:54.55 | Guerin | iKernel: my question would be `what's the point?' |
| 07:54.56 | iKernel | Guerin that and I don't do backups |
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| 07:55.09 | Zoup | Guerin: thanks :) |
| 07:55.21 | Guerin | iKernel: then you manifestly care nothing for your data |
| 07:55.46 | iKernel | Guerin ok lets see. I edited my partition from windows using ltools, screwed the whole thing up. recovered data using e2fsck, and replaced several hundred files that got dumped in /lost+found |
| 07:56.09 | Guerin | iKernel: wtf |
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| 07:56.56 | iKernel | Guerin so most problems are fixed, except that I can't start terminal in gnome/xfce, failsafe xterm session doesn't start, I have to type in maintence password after issuing the reboot command to finish the reboot process |
| 07:56.59 | iKernel | and what else |
| 07:57.00 | Guerin | you got off lightly |
| 07:57.10 | Guerin | !reinstall |
| 07:57.11 | dpkg | hmm... reinstall is aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone>. <debian clone> |
| 07:57.16 | iKernel | ah yes, I can't seem to set my system's hostmane |
| 07:57.17 | Guerin | that might help |
| 07:57.43 | Guerin | but man, you're better off backing up shit you can't afford to lose and starting again from bare metal |
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| 07:59.50 | iKernel | thanks Guerin |
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| 08:03.56 | iKernel | what do I do when it says it wasn't able to locate the file for the mount package for aptitude reinstall '~i' |
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| 08:17.05 | iKernel | !aptitude clone |
| 08:17.06 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favorite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. See also <reinstall>. |
| 08:17.15 | iKernel | ! reinstall |
| 08:17.15 | dpkg | i guess reinstall is aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone>. <debian clone> |
| 08:17.20 | iKernel | useless piece of crap |
| 08:19.38 | iKernel | im gonna try a dist upgrade |
| 08:20.10 | iKernel | without changing to next distro along |
| 08:20.28 | iKernel | since I'm using the testing distribution, going to the next one up would mean going up to experimental |
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| 08:22.38 | Guerin | no, it shouldn't |
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| 08:23.03 | Guerin | have you given any consideration to learning a fucking thing about your OS before doing foolish things with it? |
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| 08:23.36 | iKernel | Guerin, I knew I was running a huge risk by editing the partition with ltools, and I willingly took that risk, being ready to face any consequences that may have arisin. |
| 08:23.40 | Guerin | i understand this might sound rash, but since you're someone who doesn't do backups, I figure you're used to living close to the wind |
| 08:24.04 | enouf | and farting in the wrong direction |
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| 08:24.53 | iKernel | Guerin, and I think that having restored my system to an imperfect but useable state, I was efficient at dealing with those consequences |
| 08:25.31 | Guerin | iKernel: perhaps so. But I predict that it'll never be quite the same again. |
| 08:25.53 | iKernel | oh it's just a few little it b its |
| 08:26.14 | Guerin | hm, a couple hundred files manually replaced from lsot+found doesn't seem little to me |
| 08:26.22 | Guerin | but yeah, if it works, let it |
| 08:26.46 | iKernel | eg, alsa can't be configured, have to reinstall alsa-base to get sound, can't open terminal in gui, blank host name, and reboot troubles |
| 08:27.08 | iKernel | screw it, I'm gonna just back up /home and do a reinstall |
| 08:27.38 | iKernel | in fact that was pretty much what I was planning on doing, except I don't have to redownload all those files which are already on my hard drive, which is why I asked bout reinstall |
| 08:28.11 | iKernel | since the only directory that was affected by me fucking around was /etc , maybe there's some way to restore /etc to its original state |
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| 08:28.54 | iKernel | back up all the files in etc first, restore /etc, then copy any files which are no longer there as a result of restoring /etc, and then copy over groups and shadow |
| 08:28.59 | iKernel | but how :-\ |
| 08:29.52 | Guerin | iKernel: did you try the reinstall options dpkg told you about? |
| 08:29.58 | iKernel | yep, all of them |
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| 08:30.41 | iKernel | last one does nothing, the first one it couldn't find the mount package, and the second one I got a whole bunch of broken dependicies |
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| 08:33.43 | Guerin | yeah, broken deps need worked through gradually |
| 08:34.18 | Guerin | being an apt-ninja helps, but it can be more work than just nuking the fucker from orbit |
| 08:35.20 | iKernel | package a depends on package b package b conflicts with package c, upgraded versions of package d, e, and f depend on package c |
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| 08:35.44 | wireddd | are there versions of openssh with the hpn patches applied to them anywhere? |
| 08:36.19 | wireddd | and also, anyone actually used them? |
| 08:38.05 | prolix | are there packages which conflict with each other? |
| 08:38.11 | prolix | and if so, how? |
| 08:40.55 | xingu | ahahhaha |
| 08:41.38 | xingu | so someone _other_ that me finally noticed that openssh's implementation was a POS that rapidly rate-locked to the buffer size vs rtt |
| 08:41.50 | xingu | hoo bloody ray |
| 08:41.58 | wireddd | yeah, and they fixed it apparently |
| 08:42.05 | xingu | wireddd: bts it and get it pushed upstream thataway |
| 08:42.14 | xingu | wireddd: there's just no reason to remain that retarded |
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| 08:42.56 | wireddd | apparently this was featured on slashdot in feb |
| 08:43.07 | wireddd | so the openssh people should know about it |
| 08:43.24 | xingu | wireddd: at work I use boxes that can crypt at about 2.5GB/s and have 1GB/s lossless paths between them - on a good day and openssh tops around 6MB/s |
| 08:43.34 | xingu | wireddd: go figure |
| 08:43.46 | wireddd | yeah |
| 08:44.13 | xingu | I've been bitching on about this here and elsewhere since looking into it _back in frickin 2001_ |
| 08:44.27 | xingu | two seconds and truss told me what the problem was |
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| 08:45.01 | xingu | wireddd: back in the day the buffer was only 4KB - you don't know how painful _that_ is :) |
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| 08:46.08 | wireddd | I have lots of hosted servers on 100mbit links, and scp/sftp is painfully slow |
| 08:46.11 | xingu | wireddd: if I were an anthromorphised modern tcp stack and I were confronted with that degree of application stupidity I'd be using my spare cycles to write rude haiku about the app authors :) |
| 08:46.21 | jamesdell | Hi, is there anyone who used rpmstrap in xen? |
| 08:46.49 | xingu | wireddd: modern tcp works really really well if you just keep pushing nonblocking writes until they start returning short |
| 08:46.58 | enouf | hrm, tastes just like dialup chicken :-) |
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| 08:48.17 | xingu | wireddd: seriously, bts it, we need this in the main pool |
| 08:48.20 | wireddd | how does it take this long for someone to fix such an obvious problem? do the people that maintain openssh all have dialup or something? |
| 08:49.04 | xingu | wireddd: people just assume that things are that shite for a reason and never go looking for the reason - in my experience |
| 08:49.11 | xingu | wireddd: they stop at "it boots it builds ship it" |
| 08:50.01 | xingu | wireddd: wheras I'm the awkward arsehat that after it works and it's stable starts picking at it to find out why it's _not_ bandwidth limited already |
| 08:50.11 | wireddd | yeah, me too |
| 08:50.53 | wireddd | if my cpu or disk or ram or network isn't the bottleneck, then the software is broken |
| 08:51.02 | xingu | wireddd: if I don't see a nice deep sendq on the tx end I _know_ it's application fecundity |
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| 08:52.55 | arussel | I can configure my wifi connection using iwconfig, iwpriv and ifconfig but after each reboot all the configuration is "forgotten". What can I do ? |
| 08:53.15 | enouf | http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/hpn-v-ssh-tput.jpg |
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| 08:53.47 | wireddd | enouf: yeah, I am sick of the red bars being me |
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| 08:54.10 | enouf | ugh |
| 08:55.01 | enouf | i'm noticing the really limited 'arcfour advantage' [tm] |
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| 08:55.41 | enouf | (i mean amongst all the red bars) |
| 08:55.59 | wireddd | yeah |
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| 09:00.44 | xingu | enouf: faced with stack _starvation_, crypt efficiency won't really matter a hill of beans |
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| 09:01.19 | xingu | enouf: where crypt efficiency does come into play is where you're measuring other dimensions; throughput per thermal unit, throughput per cpu cycle, etc. |
| 09:01.24 | enouf | oh dear :-/ |
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| 09:01.38 | enouf | oh, i see what you mean |
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| 09:02.22 | xingu | enouf: ip can only really work well when the tx and rx ends are clocked in phase and are working with buffers around 2x the max bandwidth delay product |
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| 09:02.55 | enouf | xingu: just always has seen some other supposed "networking knowledgeable folk" mention to alter cypher to <name-cypher-here> to increase speed - now i see what a joke it all was |
| 09:03.07 | wireddd | yeah |
| 09:03.09 | xingu | enouf: it's a load of SHIT :) |
| 09:03.12 | wireddd | I just went through that |
| 09:03.16 | xingu | enouf: knowledgable enough for you? :) |
| 09:03.22 | enouf | xingu: haha |
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| 09:04.05 | xingu | enouf: seriously thermal and cpu efficiency can be a real issue; asking the route processor in say a 28xx-series router to move a few hundred meg a second, it matters. |
| 09:04.41 | enouf | xingu: misc posts about it, (though these are not the people i speak of) http://www.miscdebris.net/blog/2007/06/01/speed-up-ssh-x11-forwarding/ and http://samat.org/weblog/20060508-best-ssh-options-for-x11-forwarding.html |
| 09:04.41 | xingu | enouf: you know you're in shit in that dimension because your (task) runq deepens and (again task) scheduling delay/jitter goes for a moonshot |
| 09:05.39 | xingu | enouf: for instance consider a fully-cached file that you're compress+crypting; if you have a large enough file you'll bury a processor (or maybe a whole _node_ if your task is threaded) for appreciable amounts of realtime |
| 09:05.44 | xingu | enouf: and that too can be lethal |
| 09:06.33 | xingu | enouf: but by far the more common case _at this stage_ is just app brokenness - not feeding large enough data chunks quickly enough over to tcp for delivery (which it does frighteningly well) |
| 09:06.51 | enouf | gah! ;-) (you are talking way over my head, since i suck at networking, but i like hearing you talk about it ;-0) |
| 09:07.17 | wireddd | yeah, I don't understand much about things at that level either |
| 09:07.18 | xingu | enouf: if you see the tx and rx ends getting phase locked exchanging tiny tiny buffers (and 4k and 64k qualify at megabit line rates) then there's your perp right there |
| 09:07.47 | enouf | we;ve busted the "Perp" , lmao ;-) |
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| 09:08.00 | xingu | every ms that path sits idle could be moving another big hunky chunk of data |
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| 09:08.24 | maia | hello. how do I put a package on hold with apt-get? |
| 09:08.27 | xingu | (aka bandwidth delay product - how much water the hose can hold) |
| 09:08.40 | enouf | in a nutshell - really horrible efficiency |
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| 09:08.44 | xingu | yes |
| 09:09.09 | xingu | enouf: because ultimately you phase lock to _rtt_ which is usually a couple of orders of magnitude greater than total serialisation delay |
| 09:09.31 | keith | can anyone tell me why, after upgrade a box from etch to lenny, my ide disks are showing up as /dev/sd[abc] ? |
| 09:09.44 | cahoot | new kernel - sata? |
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| 09:09.51 | enouf | keith: newer libata implementation |
| 09:10.13 | keith | well, there are 2 sata disks and 3 ide disks |
| 09:10.41 | keith | coincidentally, the sata disks are fine, because they're LVM'd, and LVM is smart |
| 09:11.00 | enouf | lvm2 i hope |
| 09:11.03 | xingu | enouf: if you want to measure the effect of baking a cpu with too-efficient compress/crypt - try pbzip or l7zip letting them run one thread per cpu core |
| 09:11.25 | keith | but grub happily passed in root=/dev/hda1, and i had to go down two flights of stairs to find a console sitting at "unable to mount root filesystem" |
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| 09:11.29 | ignition11 | heyhey |
| 09:11.30 | xingu | enouf: feed enough data in, and what will happen will be your scheduling delay will increase hence your loadav stretch right out |
| 09:11.35 | enouf | xingu: very interesting indeed |
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| 09:11.42 | ignition11 | Had an accident with debian yesterday. |
| 09:11.52 | ignition11 | Somehow with aptitude.. I managed to delete my kernel. |
| 09:12.03 | keith | whoops |
| 09:12.06 | ignition11 | I'm now stuck on Vista 32-bit :( |
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| 09:12.08 | xingu | enouf: sometimes a less efficient pipeline is better; cooler cpu, shorter max scheduling delay |
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| 09:12.34 | enouf | right, clogged pipes only make things smell ;-) |
| 09:12.41 | ignition11 | Hmm, I have a way of writing to the linux partition from vista, but where can I get an amd64 kernel image from? :( |
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| 09:13.16 | keith | ignition11: probably better off booting a live CD and using chroot |
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| 09:13.24 | Eulex | ignition11, umh, don't do that. boot up a live-cd, chroot into your debian system. |
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| 09:13.39 | ignition11 | Hmm okay. I'll give that a go. |
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| 09:14.12 | wireddd | thats why I always keep an old kernel around |
| 09:14.27 | damnnazi | im looking for a lightweight xwindow system, any suggestions ? |
| 09:14.32 | ignition11 | I think I will in future :( |
| 09:14.40 | enouf | keith: a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-NEW-VERSION might sort things out for ya, though yes, if not using LABELs or UUIDs, this h|s issue can be an issue, i guess |
| 09:14.44 | Eulex | that's why you should always keep one or two old kernels around :) |
| 09:15.04 | ignition11 | Hmm an hdd image would probably suffice :) |
| 09:15.05 | ApEtc | I usually keep the default install kernel around in addition to a few old ones |
| 09:15.17 | ApEtc | For those absolute worst case "I broke everything" situations |
| 09:15.18 | delcoyote | hi |
| 09:15.21 | keith | enouf: i could almost swear that it survived one reboot with the new kernel, and that it was angry on the *2nd* reboot that I did |
| 09:15.22 | enouf | keith: that dpkg-recon.... should have ran auto upon upgrade |
| 09:15.26 | cahoot | lots of hindsight wisdom here |
| 09:15.36 | ignition11 | I'll try and log in as root less too :P |
| 09:15.36 | damnnazi | throw that old shit away you dont need it and never use it |
| 09:15.46 | ignition11 | Anywho, I'll hopefully be back in a minute on debian :) |
| 09:15.51 | enouf | keith: and many times, update-grub should as well - check out /etc/kernel-img.conf |
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| 09:16.11 | keith | yah, it did run, because it added the new kernel to the boot menu |
| 09:16.17 | enouf | turns around and looks back :-P |
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| 09:16.44 | cahoot | AKA first hand experience? |
| 09:16.59 | damnnazi | does KDE run on an 800Mhz pc |
| 09:17.00 | action099 | oy |
| 09:17.00 | keith | i mean, remotely rebooting might not be the smartest thing in the world, but i was expecting it to fail to boot after the 2.6.18 to 2.6.24 upgrade |
| 09:17.04 | maia | please, can anyone help? how do I tell apt-get to ignore a package? it wants to "upgrade" my manually installed ruby 1.8.68 with an older 1.8.4. |
| 09:17.13 | wireddd | damnnazi: I have kde on a 600mhz pc |
| 09:17.20 | wireddd | it is a little slow though |
| 09:17.27 | damnnazi | yeah |
| 09:17.30 | Eulex | !tell maia about hold |
| 09:17.38 | dutchfish | damnnazi, it even runs on 375 Mhz |
| 09:17.39 | wireddd | but not horribly |
| 09:17.53 | damnnazi | so what do say wireddd its doable ? |
| 09:18.04 | wireddd | how much ram does this system have? |
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| 09:18.22 | damnnazi | 256Mb ram |
| 09:18.35 | wireddd | yeah, that will probably be more of a problem |
| 09:19.02 | keith | how does grub decide what to put in for a new boot stanza? |
| 09:19.07 | blaamann | How can I get more information about an installed package using the command line ? I need to know what files are installed as part of the package and version of the package. |
| 09:19.15 | maia | Eulex: well, if I do "aptitude hold ruby1.8" followed by "apt-get -s upgrade", it still plans to upgrade ruby1.8 |
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| 09:20.06 | keith | blaamann: apt-file |
| 09:20.18 | keith | and dpkg -L |
| 09:20.27 | keith | depending on whether or not the package is installed |
| 09:21.54 | blaamann | keith: ty, looks like dpkg -L is what I am after for listing files. |
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| 09:22.12 | keith | blaamann: yah, but it only works on installed packages |
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| 09:23.24 | dutchfish | keith, it is stored as a config script in the kernel package see: /yourpath/yourkernelversion/debian/examples/kpkg_grub.conf |
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| 09:23.59 | blaamann | keith80403: What about finding version number ? apt-cache search packagename does not give me version number, only name. |
| 09:24.23 | keith | apt-cache show |
| 09:24.51 | blaamann | keith: ty *again* |
| 09:24.58 | maia | anyone able to help me with holding a package in apt-get? apt seems to ignore settings in aptitude. |
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| 09:25.13 | dutchfish | !pinning |
| 09:25.13 | dpkg | If you are running stable, don't pin; use a backport. Ask me about <backports> or <simple sid backport>. If you're using testing, man apt_preferences or see http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning. |
| 09:25.33 | keith | maia: say /msg dpkg hold |
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| 09:26.27 | maia | keith: I did wha dpkg said: "aptitude hold ruby1.8", but the next "apt-get -s upgrade" shows that apt-get plans to upgrade ruby1.8 |
| 09:26.38 | maia | so it's *not* holding it it seems |
| 09:26.42 | my007ms | apt-cache let me search with package name what if i need to know the version that will be install ? |
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| 09:27.00 | keith | maia: your package name probably needs to be more specific |
| 09:27.10 | keith | my007ms: apt-cache show |
| 09:27.33 | maia | keith: what's the specific package name for: "Inst ruby1.8 [1.8.4-1ubuntu1.3] (1.8.4-1ubuntu1.4 Ubuntu:6.06/dapper-updates)" |
| 09:27.48 | maia | keith: if it's not "ruby1.8"? |
| 09:27.52 | my007ms | keith thanks |
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| 09:28.00 | keith | maia: go ask in #ubuntu |
| 09:28.03 | thestonedhacker | oin #opensuse |
| 09:28.24 | maia | keith: I tried for the past 30 minutes. people kept ignoring me. /sigh |
| 09:28.46 | keith | maia: that's a little... more complicated than the typical question that they are used to, i think |
| 09:28.51 | moshii | maia: if their support is shit, thats not our problem ;) |
| 09:28.57 | maia | hehe |
| 09:29.18 | moshii | install debian and get it over and done with.. |
| 09:29.53 | maia | moshii: it's a running server, I won't reinstall everything simply because I can't find the equivalent to something like "apt-get ignore ruby1.8" |
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| 09:30.08 | keith | maia: ubuntu... on a server? what's the point? |
| 09:30.46 | maia | keith: running rubyonrails on slicehost. most of the rails docs refer to dapper. that's why. I had no personal preference at all. |
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| 09:31.07 | keith | ...most of the rail docs refer to dapper? wtf has this world come to? |
| 09:31.10 | keith | i don't believe you |
| 09:31.13 | moshii | server os with lack-luster support.. sounds fun |
| 09:31.41 | maia | well, please lets not start a flame war. |
| 09:31.56 | dutchfish | !debianlove |
| 09:31.56 | dpkg | methinks debianlove is the more i gain knowledge about linux, the more i like debian. Ask me about <whydebian> too. For more info look also at http://wiki.debian.org . |
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| 09:32.10 | Daviey | keith: all ubuntu fan boys run ubuntu on everything they can.. inc washing machine if they could :) |
| 09:32.20 | keith | shakes his head |
| 09:32.25 | keith | in sadness |
| 09:32.32 | Airbottl1 | well at least its better than vista |
| 09:32.35 | moshii | Is there some way of disabling a trackpad while you're typing?.. synclient thingy isnt a great solution |
| 09:32.46 | moshii | Airbottl1: apples and oranges. |
| 09:33.42 | Airbottl1 | apples and a lemon with bugs :p |
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| 09:40.50 | Gater | Wanna be AN IRCOP? ---> http://crazyk.sytes.net/ http://crazyk.sytes.net/ http://crazyk.sytes.net/ |
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| 09:44.18 | ELIVE1 | hi is there any driver on windows for r/w xfs ? |
| 09:44.47 | ELIVE1 | or amybe just read |
| 09:44.51 | moshii | ELIVE1: dunno, don't use windows |
| 09:44.51 | ELIVE1 | maybe* |
| 09:44.59 | moshii | ELIVE1: maybe google.com |
| 09:45.17 | moshii | ELIVE1: may #xfs |
| 09:45.26 | ELIVE1 | hmn me to no, hmn maybe willl know here someone will wait atthat time gogle is :) |
| 09:45.34 | ELIVE1 | o trying |
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| 09:47.04 | dutchfish | hi i want to know if there is any simular package in etch like harminv to to deep grahical inspection with wavelets i know of python-pywt in lenny but i have many problems with it. Can someone give me a hint? |
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| 09:48.30 | iono | Anyone knows how to install libupnp on debian? |
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| 09:51.19 | dutchfish | iono, you mean the sdk? |
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| 09:52.08 | dutchfish | iono, or libupnp0 ? |
| 09:52.11 | iono | no, a compiled and read-to-be-installed version... |
| 09:52.18 | DirkGently | libupnp2 - Intel Universal Plug And Play SDK for Linux (shared libraries) |
| 09:52.29 | iono | forgot to mention... it has to be for an arm processor |
| 09:52.49 | iono | ahhh |
| 09:52.57 | iono | so libupnp2 is the ame |
| 09:53.01 | iono | name |
| 09:53.05 | iono | I'll try that |
| 09:53.37 | iono | E: Couldn't find package libunpnp2 |
| 09:53.44 | iono | woops |
| 09:53.44 | iono | type |
| 09:53.46 | iono | typo |
| 09:54.45 | iono | I got this error: "Package libupnp2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package libupnp2 has no installation candidate" |
| 09:54.47 | dutchfish | iono, libupnp2 is >= lenny |
| 09:54.55 | iono | who is lenny? |
| 09:54.56 | iono | : |
| 09:54.58 | iono | :) |
| 09:55.32 | dutchfish | iono, you prolly want libupnp0 on etch |
| 09:55.42 | iono | I'll try that now |
| 09:56.21 | iono | ahhh, lenny is the name of the new debian |
| 09:56.30 | iono | woooo |
| 09:56.32 | iono | it installed |
| 09:56.35 | iono | thanks guys! |
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| 10:03.00 | jstephenson | How can I check if a package is installed O_O;? |
| 10:03.50 | dutchfish | jstephenson, dpkg -l | grep foo |
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| 10:04.07 | jstephenson | dutchfish: Thanks |
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| 10:06.21 | jstephenson | With package 'php5' installed, does anyone know where would I find the CLI binary I'm hunting for? |
| 10:07.23 | dutchfish | jstephenson, php5-cli |
| 10:07.44 | dutchfish | jstephenson, if you want to execute php5 script on the console |
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| 10:08.08 | Jyzygzy- | umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy |
| 10:08.13 | Jyzygzy- | how do i see processes using it? |
| 10:08.25 | Jyzygzy- | what was the command |
| 10:08.26 | DirkGently | Jyzygzy-: lsof |
| 10:08.30 | Jyzygzy- | thats it |
| 10:09.38 | dutchfish | jstephenson, or you mean the executable for php5? its located at /usr/bin/php5 |
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| 10:09.51 | Jyzygzy- | what a slow command |
| 10:10.17 | DirkGently | Jyzygzy-: is it? |
| 10:10.39 | DirkGently | mine takes a second or two at most |
| 10:10.41 | Jyzygzy- | yea takes forever to complete |
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| 10:10.54 | Jyzygzy- | takes prolly 30 seconds here |
| 10:11.03 | jstephenson | dutchfish: I get no such file/dir for /usr/bin/php5 interestingly. |
| 10:11.34 | dutchfish | jstephenson, you sure its installed? |
| 10:11.34 | DirkGently | Jyzygzy-: slow cpu? busy machine? |
| 10:11.52 | Jyzygzy- | 2.5GHz P4 and nothing happening |
| 10:12.03 | Jyzygzy- | lol funny |
| 10:12.41 | jstephenson | dutchfish: ii php5 5.2.0-8+etch10 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag |
| 10:12.46 | Jyzygzy- | also wtf is this |
| 10:12.51 | DirkGently | lsof | grep "/media" |
| 10:12.56 | Jyzygzy- | ls shows "ReadMe.txt" |
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| 10:13.04 | Jyzygzy- | i try cat ReadMe.txt |
| 10:13.13 | Jyzygzy- | and No SUch File |
| 10:13.16 | Jyzygzy- | seriosly |
| 10:13.22 | Jyzygzy- | that shouldn't be possible |
| 10:13.36 | DirkGently | Jyzygzy-: what's the full lsof line? |
| 10:13.46 | dutchfish | jstephenson, i my fault: /usr/bin/php5 is from php5-cli |
| 10:13.52 | Jyzygzy- | omg the file starts with an SPC |
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| 10:13.58 | Jyzygzy- | i didn't know you can do that |
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| 10:14.11 | DirkGently | Jyzygzy-: yep |
| 10:14.11 | Jyzygzy- | how evil |
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| 10:14.57 | DirkGently | >\ foo |
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| 10:15.13 | Jyzygzy- | or " foo" or ' foo' |
| 10:15.30 | jstephenson | dutchfish: Ahhhhh |
| 10:15.58 | DirkGently | Jyzygzy-: it's just to confuse Windoze ppl |
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| 10:17.31 | Jyzygzy- | lol |
| 10:17.41 | Jyzygzy- | ls -l owned it |
| 10:19.58 | dutchfish | jstephenson, php5 is dependent on php5-common wich has /usr/lib/php5, wich is the executable (library) |
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| 10:20.56 | dutchfish | jstephenson, there are many flavours of php5 ;) |
| 10:21.20 | jstephenson | dutchfish: Aye, as is becoming apparent :P. |
| 10:22.05 | dutchfish | jstephenson, mod-php5, cgi, fast-cgi to mention a few |
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| 10:22.44 | jstephenson | Mm |
| 10:23.05 | dutchfish | jstephenson, depends on what you exactly want with it |
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| 10:25.30 | jstephenson | dutchfish: Already got php5 hooked up with apache - just trying to get used to Debian after Gentoo :P. Burried in man pages :). |
| 10:26.26 | dutchfish | jstephenson, ah if you want lamp just google on "the perfect debian setup etch" |
| 10:26.44 | jstephenson | dutchfish: Is open right now ;P. |
| 10:27.01 | dutchfish | jstephenson, there you go, its easy ... |
| 10:27.20 | jstephenson | Well yeah |
| 10:27.26 | jstephenson | Enjoying apt so far |
| 10:27.49 | dutchfish | mumbles apt is really cool, yes |
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| 10:27.56 | jstephenson | Mm |
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| 10:29.43 | jstephenson | dutchfish: How does kernel upgrading work in Deb? |
| 10:30.16 | dutchfish | jstephenson, on stable? just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade .. to get the latest |
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| 10:30.34 | jstephenson | And how about customisation? |
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| 10:31.11 | dutchfish | jstephenson, you can build a custom kernel, however only do that if you know the merits, ask dpkg about kp-mantra |
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| 10:32.31 | dutchfish | jstephenson, if you be more precise, its easier to help ;) |
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| 10:33.07 | jstephenson | dutchfish: I see. So generally you'd just use the precompiled one with Debian :P. |
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| 10:34.24 | dutchfish | jstephenson, yes, 1st rule: on servers try always the ones that are from the debian repository, they are well mantained with security fixes, if you build your custom kernel you are on your own with sec fixes ... |
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| 10:34.39 | jstephenson | dutchfish: Mhm. |
| 10:35.05 | dutchfish | jstephenson, 2nd, if you really need a newer one use backports |
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| 10:35.33 | dutchfish | !tell jstephenson about backports |
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| 10:35.58 | moshii | jstephenson: theres no reason to use a hand-built kernel, unless you have a reason ;) |
| 10:36.30 | jstephenson | Gotcha |
| 10:36.54 | jstephenson | Just used to doing it myself with Gentoo :P. |
| 10:37.33 | dutchfish | this is not gentoo .. and ... dont burn fossil fuels on compiling kernels for no reason ;) |
| 10:38.00 | moshii | jstephenson: the debian images are a smallish kernel image with an initramfs with the modules you need to boot.. everything else is a module in /lib/modules.. so you should never need to build a kernel |
| 10:38.16 | moshii | jstephenson: unless you have funky hardware and need a patch or something special. |
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| 10:38.45 | jstephenson | moshii: Ahhhh, I see. |
| 10:38.50 | jstephenson | dutchfish: Hah :P. |
| 10:39.36 | dutchfish | jstephenson, ~0,5Kwh to build new kernel, you do the math .... |
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| 10:40.06 | jstephenson | dutchfish: Rly :P? God. |
| 10:40.14 | moshii | dutchfish: depending on your hardware, you might be burning the same amount of energy idle |
| 10:40.38 | davi | gnuherds.org The democratic FS job site. Democracy is the way to go! |
| 10:40.42 | dutchfish | moshii, if you dont use energy saving yes |
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| 10:41.03 | dutchfish | moshii, thats double bad |
| 10:41.18 | dutchfish | moshii, ;) |
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| 10:41.43 | jstephenson | moshii: How do we get _more_ modules? |
| 10:41.50 | moshii | dutchfish: if by energy saving you mean turning the machine off.. |
| 10:42.01 | moshii | jstephenson: module-assistant for out-of-tree stuff |
| 10:42.20 | moshii | jstephenson: like wifi drivers |
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| 10:42.42 | dutchfish | moshii, hehe, i dont mean that, but acpi etc etc ... use powertop |
| 10:43.18 | dutchfish | moshii, i admit on older hardware this is hard |
| 10:44.10 | dutchfish | moshii, but using our common sense here is in place |
| 10:44.10 | moshii | dutchfish: I wouldnt believe all the marketing stuff. Like that carbon-free stuff everyone is trying to sell at the moment |
| 10:44.43 | moshii | dutchfish: tweaked to hell, I get like an hour extra max out of my laptop.. so the power saving cant have that much effect |
| 10:44.49 | dutchfish | moshii, i am only concerned about useless power consumption |
| 10:45.16 | dutchfish | moshii, if everybody did that, again, do the math |
| 10:46.14 | moshii | dutchfish: totally. someone needs to start making solar laptop chargers :) |
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| 10:46.46 | jstephenson | apt-get -s upgrade - 'Conf <package>' indicated an update in just configuration? |
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| 10:47.35 | dutchfish | moshii, it will come, soon solar cells can be manufactured < 1$ per watt, then it would be benifitial |
| 10:48.01 | dutchfish | moshii, but this is all offtopic of coarse ;) |
| 10:49.01 | dutchfish | moshii, my point was simply, dont burn fossil fuels on useless kernel compilations. Thanks ;) |
| 10:49.29 | moshii | dutchfish: yup. especially if it makes zero difference. |
| 10:49.39 | dutchfish | moshii, exactly |
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| 10:54.33 | jstephenson | So what does modules.dep specify? |
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| 10:57.06 | Coke | I want to try to remove ACPI from my system, where should I look to make the kernel not load it? modprobe.d? Some blacklist? |
| 10:57.29 | maligor | acpi=off? |
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| 10:57.56 | Coke | maligor: is that a kernel option? |
| 10:58.02 | laser- | hi |
| 10:58.53 | dutchfish | Coke, kernel boot line (grub) |
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| 10:59.30 | Coke | Like this? /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-3-686 root=/dev/hda5 ro acpi=off |
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| 10:59.33 | jaggy- | do jack apps work in debian's default sound system (which is artsd right?) |
| 10:59.46 | Coke | jaggy-: you are wrong |
| 10:59.52 | dutchfish | Coke, yes |
| 11:00.08 | jaggy- | I'm trying the creox program and it's failing and all it shows is "error" so I don't know what's going on .. |
| 11:00.11 | Coke | jaggy-: jack works fine in Debian, there is no default soundsystem aside from ALSA |
| 11:00.25 | jaggy- | oh.. it does show alsa input and output. that's all i can select |
| 11:00.30 | Coke | jaggy-: in fact, if you're using Jack there's no need for any other sound server. |
| 11:00.37 | jaggy- | what's your problem, coke? (with vmlinuz) |
| 11:00.47 | Coke | jaggy-: solved already |
| 11:00.50 | jaggy- | how do I know my sound server? |
| 11:01.05 | Coke | jaggy-: ps -A | grep arts and then ps -A | grep esd |
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| 11:01.22 | Coke | Don't know if gnome/kde apps depend on esd/arts |
| 11:02.11 | jaggy- | /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f ... I don't know if that's the full line or if ps auxwf is cutting it off |
| 11:02.14 | Coke | jaggy-: I don't use any sound server |
| 11:02.20 | Coke | jaggy-: sudo apt-get remove arts |
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| 11:02.44 | Coke | jaggy-: remove the sound server, what you want to do is setup ALSA correctly instead of using high latency sound servers. |
| 11:02.50 | thrope | hi - i have a fresh debian install but it doesn't seem to have the killall command - what package do I need to install to get this? |
| 11:02.54 | Coke | The point of using Jack is to get low latency audio. |
| 11:02.57 | jaggy- | I've been pretty happy with arts I must say. I haven't had any problems, apps can play sound at the same time.. I was hating linux for two years when I had conflicting programs |
| 11:03.23 | laser- | thrope: psmisc |
| 11:03.27 | gaojinjun | /msg dpkg guidelines |
| 11:03.39 | dutchfish | thrope, psmisc: usr/bin/killall |
| 11:03.39 | Coke | jaggy-: I think ALSA already provides this with it's plugins |
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| 11:04.07 | jaggy- | I can kill artsd to test, but I'd prefer to not remove the thing right now.. |
| 11:04.22 | jaggy- | you think just get rid of it and everything will be wonderful? |
| 11:04.23 | thrope | thanks |
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| 11:05.25 | Coke | jaggy-: I'm not using any high latency sound server for two reasons: 1) I don't need them, I use ALSA dmix plugin to allow multiple writes to the sound stream, 2) I need LOW latency |
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| 11:06.12 | jaggy- | low latency is definitely preferred.. but I don't want to have to change around all the default debian apps to work.. I don't want to have to fiddle with things |
| 11:06.20 | Coke | jaggy-: http://www.thepenguin.org.uk/alsa/ |
| 11:06.24 | jaggy- | guitar maybe, but I haven't found myself much of a fiddler |
| 11:06.44 | Coke | jaggy-: I don't know if KDE apps require arts or if they can write to ALSA directly |
| 11:07.06 | jaggy- | "If I were a rich man.. ya haa de be de be de be de be de be de be do" |
| 11:07.22 | Coke | jaggy-: like I said, the only sound server I use is jack and that's to connect various audio applications with eachother |
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| 11:08.12 | thrope | where do the kernel headers live (I installed build-essential which I think pulled them in)? |
| 11:08.27 | laser- | alaska |
| 11:08.50 | cahoot | thrope: look in /usr/src |
| 11:09.02 | thrope | cahoot: theres nothing there |
| 11:09.24 | thrope | but linux-kernel-headers is at latest version |
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| 11:10.16 | jaggy- | coke, thanks |
| 11:10.34 | thrope | how can I see a list of files installed by a package? |
| 11:10.46 | hoxu | thrope, dpkg -L |
| 11:11.32 | laser- | build-essential pulled in kernel headers? oddly enough |
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| 11:12.13 | jaggy- | how do I do something like apt-cache search, but only searching installed packages? unfortunately, apt-cache's --installed option does not work with the "search" command (just depends/rdepends) |
| 11:12.16 | thrope | I have linux-kernel-headers but the are installed in /usr/include/linux |
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| 11:12.52 | babbage | Is it possible to upgrade my install from x86 to x86_64, or must I do a clean reinstall? |
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| 11:13.58 | thrope | basically - what do I need to install to build a kernel module - (vmware tools) - are the headers in /usr/include/linux for the running kernel or for c libraries? running kernel I would normally expect to be in /usr/src/linux - what do I need to install to get that ? |
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| 11:16.14 | dutchfish | on one of my servers, polish laguage is stored in mysql5 tables, if i run query on commmand line, everything is fine, but when i let php5 output it to a browser in a corretc script, letters are garbled, many ???, how can i solve this? I use utf8 for the mysql db. |
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| 11:18.36 | jstephenson | Mm ... we use 'update-rc.d' to manage init scripts then? |
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| 11:21.10 | ajasjdasdsa | Hi, I would like to know the procentage of 5/10 via bash. I tried 'expr 5 / 10' but that equals 0, since it's rounding down. How can I solve this? |
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| 11:22.44 | pinto3 | maybe try 5.0 / 10.0 |
| 11:22.50 | hoxu | ajasjdasdsa, use external program like bc |
| 11:23.10 | hoxu | bash does not do floating point stuff afaik |
| 11:23.29 | pinto3 | oh, just a guess, i'm not bash proficient yet :) |
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| 11:30.35 | mrglinux | hi how to change time for all user with bash i use => date -s "4:02" with root but change just for root |
| 11:30.54 | beardy | !set the time |
| 11:30.54 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp and adjtimex to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run tzconfig (sarge, etch), dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny, sid), and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
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| 11:32.51 | jaggy- | debian's audio has been nice up until now, when I try to do any input (mic/guitar) |
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| 11:40.09 | Downer | hm, anyone care to guess why today's "apt-get dist-upgrade" intends to install x11-common on my server (which does not have any x related stuff on it)? |
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| 11:50.21 | mooper | hullo. my hard disk is full with logs but I dont want to reboot. |
| 11:50.32 | mooper | how do I unlock the log file in question to delete it |
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| 11:51.01 | hoxu | mooper, what's the log file in question? |
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| 11:51.23 | heymr | I'm having an error with the gnome-power-manager displaying the wrong BAT. can someone help? |
| 11:51.40 | mooper | Xorg |
| 11:51.49 | mooper | Hoxu, xorg.0.log |
| 11:52.12 | hoxu | mooper, generally speaking, logrotate should take care of log rotation, I suggest tweaking it... you can probably just rm log files as well, and then restart the related services to make sure it really gets removed after nothing accesses it |
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| 11:53.08 | mooper | hoxu: there is a command that tells you whick process holds the locks on open files |
| 11:53.29 | hoxu | mooper, which processes have files open, yes, try fuser or lsof |
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| 11:54.16 | hoxu | mooper, what do you mean with the file being locked? |
| 11:55.08 | mooper | well I delete the file in question but because the file is locked (I think the wrong terminology) I cant reuse the disk space |
| 11:55.12 | mooper | unless I reboot |
| 11:55.18 | mooper | which is really annoying |
| 11:55.18 | Duddle | you can always 'echo > logfile' to clear it |
| 11:55.48 | hoxu | mooper, oh yes, that's why you need to restart (or reload in some cases) the service/process accessing it |
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| 11:56.49 | mooper | hoxu: yup its finding the service in question |
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| 11:56.58 | mooper | I didnt think X wrote logs directly |
| 11:57.04 | mooper | but it seems it does :) |
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| 11:57.44 | mooper | going to reboot :) |
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| 11:57.54 | hoxu | !reboot |
| 11:57.55 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 11:58.01 | cahoot | a simple sync won't help? |
| 11:58.43 | mooper | hoxu, X is really really slow and difficult |
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| 11:58.55 | hoxu | does "echo -n > file" on an open file free up the space immediately? |
| 11:59.08 | hoxu | mooper, what is it writing in the log then? |
| 11:59.10 | mooper | hoxu, I allready deleted the file |
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| 12:00.18 | mooper | (EE) fglrx(1): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: |
| 12:00.18 | mooper | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.02 | hoxu | mooper, ATI? |
| 12:01.06 | mooper | yup |
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| 12:01.16 | mooper | I think I need to researt x to fix this |
| 12:01.23 | mooper | so I might as well reboot |
| 12:01.37 | hoxu | restarting X is much faster :p |
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| 12:01.51 | pjv | i'm trying to have guake start up when i log in, how can i make this so? |
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| 12:03.15 | hoxu | mooper, google with those error messages, I think you might find some help |
| 12:03.25 | mooper | hoxu, very little |
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| 12:03.46 | hoxu | pjv, what desktop environment? |
| 12:03.53 | pjv | gnome |
| 12:04.10 | pjv | compiz |
| 12:04.16 | larsemil | what debian should i use on my home desktop? 4.0) |
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| 12:04.35 | LaicepS | is there a way to read wmp stream ? |
| 12:04.54 | hoxu | larsemil, stable, etch at the moment |
| 12:05.27 | larsemil | hoxu: huh? what is etch? |
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| 12:05.41 | LaicepS | i disagree, lenny is better for home desktop |
| 12:06.10 | hoxu | LaicepS, good, you just volunteered for supporting larsemil when he runs into problems |
| 12:06.47 | hoxu | !topic |
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| 12:06.59 | LaicepS | hoxu, he will have more problems running etch because packages are not recent enough. |
| 12:07.39 | LaicepS | he will probably meet dependencies issue with glibc |
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| 12:08.09 | hoxu | what dependencies issue? |
| 12:09.29 | LaicepS | most recent packages that he may want to install from sources will require one of the last glibc release. |
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| 12:10.24 | LaicepS | i used to run under etch but it was often hard to get some package work properly, and since i upgraded to lenny, i never had any issue. |
| 12:11.41 | hoxu | does not mean other people won't have issues |
| 12:11.56 | LaicepS | yes. |
| 12:12.35 | LaicepS | Ok, i guess it is better to start with etch, but you must not hesitate to upgrade to lenny. |
| 12:12.42 | hoxu | !upgrade path |
| 12:12.42 | dpkg | i heard upgrade path is install <stable> first, then use <backports.org> if you need newer software, then maybe <simple sid backport>, upgrade to <testing>, use <pinning>, and when you want to abandon all hope, go for <unstable> |
| 12:12.45 | larsemil | i will go for lenny. |
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| 12:17.36 | Nielsen | loves alsa and surround7 setup as 4 seperate sound cards |
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| 12:18.05 | psychodealiq | loves alsa too ) |
| 12:18.23 | larsemil | pulseaudio.. <3 :) |
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| 12:23.46 | rocketmagnet | hi, what's a good debian music converter ? |
| 12:23.54 | rocketmagnet | sox tells me he does not support mp3 =( |
| 12:24.12 | Airbottl1 | isn't there an mp32ogg converter? |
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| 12:24.29 | Airbottl1 | i'm not sure what the name is, but i used it once, worked very well |
| 12:25.16 | rocketmagnet | Airbottl1: but i need ogg2mp3 |
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| 12:26.13 | Airbottl1 | ah ok |
| 12:26.27 | rocketmagnet | but can't find it |
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| 12:27.18 | ix | mp322ogg, oggconvert, |
| 12:27.40 | ix | s/mp322ogg/mp32ogg/ |
| 12:27.46 | ix | hm, still seems like a sparse list |
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| 12:32.40 | rocketmagnet | there is not debian tool to get ogg to mp3 ?????? |
| 12:32.43 | rocketmagnet | that must be a joke |
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| 12:32.59 | rocketmagnet | i'm using also the non-free repos |
| 12:33.03 | ix | rocketmagnet: I have no idea what you are talking about. What version of debian are you running? |
| 12:33.14 | ix | I am running lenny and I can find at least TWO. |
| 12:33.27 | magentax | whats the easiest way to revert a file installed with dpkg back to its original version? |
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| 12:33.56 | hoxu | !tell rocketmagnet about non-free |
| 12:33.59 | hoxu | !tell rocketmagnet about !!! |
| 12:34.19 | rocketmagnet | etch |
| 12:34.27 | rocketmagnet | sox does not let me convert ogg to mp3 |
| 12:34.43 | rocketmagnet | he means it's disabled or something, do i need a special version of sox ? |
| 12:34.44 | Airbottl1 | did you try soundconverter |
| 12:34.48 | Airbottl1 | its in my synaptic |
| 12:34.53 | Airbottl1 | i never used it though |
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| 12:35.42 | rocketmagnet | Airbottl1: also shows mp3 for converting, but can't select it |
| 12:35.51 | ix | rocketmagnet: mp32ogg should exist in your repository. |
| 12:36.03 | Airbottl1 | did you install w32codecs? |
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| 12:36.41 | rocketmagnet | but does only from mp3 TO ogg - i need the other side around |
| 12:36.47 | cahoot | rocketmagnet: IIRC you need lame to make mp3 - not in debian per se - debian.multimedia |
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| 12:37.42 | hoxu | !multimedia |
| 12:37.42 | dpkg | dmm is probably Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see . http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <debian-multimedia.etch> |
| 12:38.17 | Airbottl1 | idd it says in the description that lame is required |
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| 12:40.01 | Airbottl1 | i can select mp3 outputformat, i installed soundconverter, lame, and gstreamer-lame (the plugins) |
| 12:40.51 | cahoot | speaking debian here? |
| 12:41.14 | Airbottl1 | btw, is there a way to convert .ape to ogg in debian? |
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| 12:52.48 | psychodealiq | Airbottl1: you can conver ape to wav |
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| 12:53.03 | psychodealiq | then wav into ogg |
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| 12:53.41 | Airbottl1 | i searched google for a while once, and there was some codec that i had to download, but it wasn't available on the site anymore |
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| 12:55.17 | psychodealiq | Airbottl1: ape codec is in additional repository debian-multimedia |
| 12:56.03 | psychodealiq | look into http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
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| 12:58.56 | Airbottl1 | ok, thanks psychodealiq |
| 12:59.53 | psychodealiq | thought there's no packages for stable distro... but i'm using sid so that's not problem for me |
| 13:00.20 | Airbottl1 | i downloaded it from the site, but it requires libc6 > |
| 13:00.29 | Airbottl1 | i'll see what i can force :) |
| 13:01.11 | psychodealiq | monkeys-audio package? |
| 13:01.32 | cammoblammo | Airbottl1: Why aren't you doing it through apt? |
| 13:01.39 | Bac9 | anyone seen tali around? |
| 13:02.21 | asg | !seen tali |
| 13:02.22 | dpkg | asg: i haven't seen 'tali' |
| 13:03.10 | psychodealiq | cammoblammo: maybe because he's using etch, but that package depends on newer libc |
| 13:03.18 | Airbottl1 | it doesn't seem to be in the repository cammoblammo (in etch) |
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| 13:04.52 | cammoblammo | Airbottl1: Ah. Good luck then...! |
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| 13:05.32 | stew | Airbottl1: you don't want to force anything. if you want something that is depending on a newer libc6, you should be recompiling it: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 13:06.10 | bolt | watermelons! |
| 13:06.21 | Bac9 | asg: thank you... guess he hasn't come here in a while |
| 13:06.43 | DaveDorm | hmm |
| 13:06.51 | DaveDorm | anyone seen Lagbolt? |
| 13:07.11 | Airbottl1 | thanks stew, i'll try that |
| 13:07.11 | cahoot | missing persons day? |
| 13:07.18 | DaveDorm | must be |
| 13:07.32 | DaveDorm | :) I just wanted to thank him for his assistance |
| 13:07.44 | DaveDorm | I was able to get those stoopid partitions resized |
| 13:07.52 | DaveDorm | all is right wit hthe universe |
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| 13:07.59 | DaveDorm | except my typos |
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| 13:08.44 | jaggy- | windows explorer is cool the way it recognizes file-types and displays the different columns/fields with their information |
| 13:08.58 | jaggy- | looks at konquerer |
| 13:09.22 | DaveDorm | I actually prefer Dolphin |
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| 13:09.31 | Airbottl1 | yes dolphin is fast and cool :) |
| 13:09.50 | DaveDorm | I want to make it my default in KDE, have not figured out how |
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| 13:11.22 | DaveDorm | I mean there's gotta be a way |
| 13:11.24 | DaveDorm | :P |
| 13:12.42 | psychodealiq | Airbottl1: it seems that ffmpeg from etch can convert ape -> wav(can't check at moment is this true) |
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| 13:15.36 | jaggy- | dolphin eh |
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| 13:16.02 | jaggy- | iceweasel crashes a lot |
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| 13:16.15 | katsumi | hi there |
| 13:16.16 | jaggy- | it doesn't even crash so much as it vanishes when I change desktops and back |
| 13:16.25 | jaggy- | dave, what pops up dolphin? |
| 13:16.42 | jaggy- | except for other smooth dolphins |
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| 13:17.23 | Doug52392 | hi |
| 13:17.32 | jaggy- | hi! |
| 13:17.47 | Doug52392 | all my kernel modules just deleted themselves! |
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| 13:18.08 | Doug52392 | I can't even start X because the nvidia kernel module is gone |
| 13:18.15 | jaggy- | Doug, were they the secret spy type of kernel modules? |
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| 13:18.33 | torrrr | My lan card is 1000Mbps, and it only does 10Mbps |
| 13:18.34 | jaggy- | I wonder how they would have disappeared.. package accidentally removed? |
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| 13:19.10 | jaggy- | torr, if the driver and hw are capable.. there's a program for setting that live which I used to mess with but I don't recall its name |
| 13:20.26 | Doug52392 | every kernel module is gone, when I booted I noticed in the feedback while booting it said "FATEL error loading module ..." |
| 13:20.33 | torrrr | jaggy-, I think I tried that once and it didn't help, the setup is 1Gbps, but it doesn't work |
| 13:20.36 | Doug52392 | and I can't compile these modules anymore either |
| 13:20.54 | DaveDorm | jaggy-: ah, found it |
| 13:21.31 | DaveDorm | jaggy-: you gotta change file associations and make Dolphin come up instead of konq |
| 13:21.37 | Doug52392 | WHat do I do? |
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| 13:22.12 | jaggy- | Dave, cool.. |
| 13:22.22 | jaggy- | doug, you compiled them yourself? |
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| 13:23.26 | Doug52392 | I don't know, I installed everything yesterday |
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| 13:23.48 | Doug52392 | only a few modules I compiled, the rest where there by default |
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| 13:24.01 | Doug52392 | But I can't even load modules that are built into the kernel now |
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| 13:24.46 | jaggy- | dolphin doesn't seem to have a tree-view |
| 13:25.21 | jaggy- | doug, better to ask again when more useful people are around than I |
| 13:25.30 | jaggy- | on this topic :) |
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| 13:27.14 | joako | hi, i just buy a sandisk player , and would like to know , how can i transfer my mp3 ? any app? |
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| 13:28.03 | stew | joako: you can mount it just like a hard drive, but you might have to switch the usb mode in the player's settings before it will be recognized |
| 13:28.15 | stew | Doug52392: what modules are you having trouble with? |
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| 13:29.00 | joako | ok i change to usb mode in the player and then have to modify fstab? |
| 13:29.06 | Doug52392 | everything |
| 13:29.27 | stew | Doug52392: give me an example |
| 13:29.38 | Doug52392 | none of the modules for my wireless card load, none of the display modules load, not even built in modules like "plip" load |
| 13:29.56 | stew | Doug52392: what do you mean by a "built in module"? |
| 13:30.07 | katsumi | my server died and now i tried debian on new one, but running pdns it says: Unable to load module '/usr/lib/powerdns/libgmysqlbackend.so' < any idea? google doesn'T help |
| 13:30.10 | Doug52392 | the ones that are there by default |
| 13:30.11 | dvs | joako: pmount should mount it. |
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| 13:30.18 | stew | Doug52392: what does that mean? |
| 13:30.36 | stew | Doug52392: the ones that are where? what do you mean by "default"? |
| 13:31.03 | stew | katsumi: is pdns-backend-mysql installed? |
| 13:31.12 | joako | yes i did !! thanks my friend |
| 13:31.18 | dvs | np |
| 13:31.29 | dvs | pumount to unmount |
| 13:31.35 | katsumi | stew: thx i will try |
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| 13:32.44 | katsumi | stew: great ! that was what i was lookin for :) |
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| 13:32.53 | Doug52392 | I can not load any modules, ones i installed that worked yesterday (nvidia), drivers for hardware (rt61) |
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| 13:34.00 | Doug52392 | when i tried insmod nvidia.ko, i get a bunch of errors, like nvidia: unknown symbol agp_bind_memory, agp_enable, etc |
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| 13:34.11 | stew | !insmod |
| 13:34.11 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
| 13:34.22 | nvz | woot! online with wifi in debian! |
| 13:34.43 | stew | katsumi: "/msg dpkg apt-file" for info on how to have found this yourself |
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| 13:35.09 | stew | Doug52392: what happens when you run "modprobe rt61"? |
| 13:35.29 | stew | Doug52392: or what happens when you run "modprobe plip"? |
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| 13:36.48 | nvz | the hawking hi-gain usb wireless-g dish adapter is an Atheros 5007, works great with etch kernel zd1211rw module and zd1211-firmware package. |
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| 13:37.09 | Doug52392 | it says "FATAL: Module rt61 not found" |
| 13:37.11 | leOn | howdy ... when making a package, is it possible to specify multiple "Provides" definitions ? |
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| 13:37.18 | stew | Doug52392: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 13:37.53 | stew | leOn: you can have one Provides with a comma separated list of package names |
| 13:38.14 | Doug52392 | 2.6.18-6-i686 |
| 13:38.24 | Doug52392 | no i |
| 13:38.42 | stew | Doug52392: you built rt61 with module-assistant? or what? |
| 13:38.58 | leOn | stew: thanks, i was missing the comma part .. had already tried space separated and multiple Provides definitions |
| 13:39.02 | Doug52392 | with module-assistant |
| 13:39.52 | stew | Doug52392: show us the output of "dpkg -l \*2.6.18-8\*" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 13:43.04 | Doug52392 | it says "No packages found matching *2.6.18-6 |
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| 13:44.13 | stew | Doug52392: show us the output of "dpkg -l \*2.6.18-8\*" |
| 13:44.40 | stew | Doug52392: you didn't type the entire command |
| 13:45.36 | Doug52392 | "No packages found matching *2.6.18-8*" |
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| 13:46.06 | stew | Doug52392: bah, i meant -6 not -8 |
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| 13:48.50 | Doug52392 | Theres a list of stuff, I can't get online on that computer so I have to type it |
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| 13:50.19 | Doug52392 | kernel-image-2, linux-headers-2.6.18.dfsg-1 (3 times), linux-modules-, rt25000-2.6.18-, rt2500-modules |
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| 13:50.46 | dvs | Doug52392: no rt61 ? |
| 13:50.57 | Doug52392 | no |
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| 13:51.08 | Doug52392 | but i'm more worried about X just starting right now :) |
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| 13:52.43 | Doug52392 | I tried running the nvidia setup again, but it failed to build the modue with errors like "nvidia: unknown symbol agp_bind_memory" (and a few other ones) |
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| 13:53.39 | stew | Doug52392: is there a rt61-modules-2.6.18-6-686 package installed? |
| 13:54.33 | Doug52392 | no |
| 13:54.34 | katsumi | stew: Apr 13 15:53:58 gmysql Connection succesful |
| 13:54.34 | katsumi | Apr 13 15:53:58 Done launching threads, ready to distribute questions |
| 13:54.54 | katsumi | thx a lot |
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| 13:56.14 | stew | Doug52392: what command did you use to install the rt61 modules? |
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| 13:56.29 | Doug52392 | i think it was module-assistant |
| 13:56.39 | stew | Doug52392: the entire command |
| 13:56.41 | Doug52392 | but everything was working fine after i instlaled them |
| 13:56.59 | stew | Doug52392: do you see the package you built in the output of dpkg -l ? |
| 13:57.03 | JyZyXEL | what was that command again to display what resources are proccesses using |
| 13:57.21 | Cromag | top |
| 13:57.21 | Cromag | ? |
| 13:57.25 | stew | JyZyXEL: ps? |
| 13:57.26 | JyZyXEL | no |
| 13:57.27 | JyZyXEL | noi |
| 13:57.45 | stew | JyZyXEL: vmstat? |
| 13:57.56 | JyZyXEL | no |
| 13:57.56 | poncha | guys, anyone here installed vmware esx server ? |
| 13:58.02 | stew | JyZyXEL: be more specific then |
| 13:58.10 | JyZyXEL | umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy |
| 13:58.19 | stew | JyZyXEL: fuser -m /media/cdrom0 |
| 13:58.33 | JyZyXEL | no |
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| 13:58.41 | stew | lsof |
| 13:58.47 | JyZyXEL | yes |
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| 13:58.53 | kqrl | i want to backup my usb mass storage device (it's a small one, 256 megabytes), and i run dd if=/dev/sdc of=/home/kqr/usbdrive.img (sdc is the device)... though i want to see it was made correctly, so i try mounting the image file, but i do not know what type i should use, which is it? |
| 13:58.53 | dvs | !prise stew |
| 13:58.53 | dpkg | stops stew from molesting that sheep |
| 13:59.01 | dvs | heh |
| 13:59.02 | stew | JyZyXEL: "fuser -m /media/cdrom0" would tell you what you need to know |
| 13:59.13 | Doug52392 | it was make && make install to build the serialmonkey drivers, but i just went and typed "insmod rt61.ko" and now everythings frozen |
| 13:59.19 | Doug52392 | but it looked like it loaded the module |
| 13:59.25 | dvs | !insmod |
| 13:59.25 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
| 13:59.40 | Doug52392 | but i loaded it from the folder where I built (~/Desktop), not where the module is |
| 14:00.07 | stew | kqrl: mount -o loop /path/to/img /mountpoint |
| 14:00.42 | kqrl | stew: it says i must specify filesystem type, and vfat is not correct either :p |
| 14:00.49 | stew | Doug52392: does "find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name rt61.ko" return a match? |
| 14:01.03 | Doug52392 | hang on, i'm rebooting :) |
| 14:01.05 | stew | kqrl: was the device partitioned? |
| 14:01.10 | beardy | !reboot |
| 14:01.10 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 14:01.39 | kqrl | stew: it has one partition, sdc1, which was fat-formatted |
| 14:03.05 | stew | kqrl: if it is patitioned then you are going to have to feed an 'offset' to mount to tell it where the partition starts |
| 14:03.55 | Doug52392 | yes, the modules are still here, the find command found 2 |
| 14:04.16 | stew | Doug52392: try running "depmod -a ; modprobe rt61" |
| 14:04.19 | kqrl | stew: hmm, which means? :P |
| 14:04.22 | stew | 2? |
| 14:04.42 | Doug52392 | it loaded! |
| 14:04.54 | Doug52392 | my wireless card is up! |
| 14:04.59 | Doug52392 | now i hope nvidia works |
| 14:05.00 | stew | kqrl: you need to run a command like "mount -o loop,offset=1234 /path/to/image /mountpoint" where 1234 is the offset in bytes into the file where the first partition starts |
| 14:05.15 | Doug52392 | yay thanks :) |
| 14:05.39 | Doug52392 | everything works fine now. What caused that anyway? |
| 14:05.53 | dvs | Doug52392: that's why we dont use insmod |
| 14:05.56 | kqrl | stew: how can i find out the offset? :P |
| 14:06.09 | Snadder | What debian package should I install.. to get this java based game working in iceweasle?: http://glenn.sanson.free.fr/v2/ |
| 14:06.22 | Doug52392 | oh :) |
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| 14:08.03 | stew | that's not why you don't use insmod, that is why you don't run broken 3rd party installers instead of using module-assistant |
| 14:08.29 | stew | kqrl: by looking at the partition table for the block offset and multiplying by 512 |
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| 14:18.58 | dokma | hi guys. I just noticed some strange hosts connecting to my machine in the iftop output |
| 14:19.06 | dokma | is there some way to tell what is happening? |
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| 14:19.26 | dokma | I know the ports and hostnames |
| 14:19.29 | dokma | and thats about it |
| 14:19.36 | stew | dokma: what ports? |
| 14:19.48 | asg | dokma: you could tcpdump the traffic and analyze it with wireshark |
| 14:19.49 | dokma | 33385 on my machine |
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| 14:20.03 | dokma | 45602 on the other host |
| 14:20.08 | dokma | tcpdump |
| 14:20.12 | dokma | will see into that |
| 14:20.20 | stew | dokma: do you have anything running on port 33385? (/msg dpkg open ports) |
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| 14:21.30 | dokma | stew: netstat -plunt does not display 33385 as open |
| 14:22.00 | dokma | how do I use tcpdump to view what is going on with that port? |
| 14:22.18 | jstephenson | Hmmm. In terms of shared hosting, would it be sensible for users to belong to the www-data group (Apache's group) so permissions of 775 would allow rwx to Apache? |
| 14:22.18 | kqrl | stew: it still says http://pastebin.com/m6347d1ed after i try setting an offset |
| 14:22.23 | hikenboot | greetings all can anyone tell me where I would find the source to a package called xclients its not a debian package and I think its a small xclient from the distribution it came from I am building linux from scratch..its too generic a name to find on google |
| 14:23.14 | stew | dokma: what about "netstat -planut"? does that show anython on 33385? |
| 14:23.16 | kqrl | stew: nevermind, i see now i made a mistake :P |
| 14:23.27 | kqrl | seems to work now thanks for the help :) |
| 14:23.52 | dokma | stew: it does :) |
| 14:23.54 | dokma | it's skype |
| 14:24.00 | dokma | weird |
| 14:24.10 | dokma | the hostname ends with .ru |
| 14:24.21 | dokma | and I am not conversing with noone in russia atm |
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| 14:30.02 | azeem | what's the best way to clone a Linux partition to another, if the target partition is smaller than the source one, but has enough space for the data anyway? |
| 14:30.21 | azeem | something using tar, I guess, but I didn't find a good command |
| 14:30.34 | ma3x | if i copy fonts to ~/.fonts and then run fc-cache -fv will that enter them into the system? |
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| 14:30.50 | Dave_is_sexy | Hi all. Can someone tell me how to say "check what drives are connected" please. I seem to have lost one. Have tried /dev/hda-everynumber |
| 14:30.50 | asg | azeem: dump / restore may also be an option |
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| 14:33.08 | azeem | hrm |
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| 14:33.33 | Dave_is_sexy | Anyone? It doesn't seem to be in the manual |
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| 14:34.20 | Enforcer_ | Hi, I installed linuxlogo, but when I type linuxlogo to run it I get "Command not found" |
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| 14:36.25 | Dave_is_sexy | s'ok i've got it. part of the ls command |
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| 14:38.25 | jetscreamer | Enforcer_: path |
| 14:38.46 | jetscreamer | updatedb && locate linuxlogo |
| 14:39.13 | jetscreamer | or, the executable is named differently |
| 14:39.17 | Enforcer_ | path? |
| 14:39.34 | jetscreamer | user's path is usually not the same as root's, esp if you use gdm |
| 14:39.57 | jetscreamer | so it's 'probably' not in your path |
| 14:40.25 | jetscreamer | !path |
| 14:40.25 | dpkg | PATH is the environment variable that tells the OS where to look for programs. It's defined in /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile (for sh-like shells) or ~/.login for csh-like shells. |
| 14:40.43 | Enforcer_ | ok I done updatedb && locate linuxlogo |
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| 14:40.52 | Enforcer_ | now what? |
| 14:40.53 | jetscreamer | did it tell you where it is? |
| 14:41.08 | jetscreamer | if so, supply the full path |
| 14:41.17 | Enforcer_ | ./etc/init.d |
| 14:41.35 | jetscreamer | then it's not something you just run, it's a startup script or so |
| 14:41.46 | Enforcer_ | it doesn't work though |
| 14:41.49 | Enforcer_ | its not starting up |
| 14:42.07 | jetscreamer | dmesg to find out why maybe |
| 14:42.16 | jetscreamer | or something in /var/log |
| 14:42.24 | Enforcer_ | bah |
| 14:42.28 | jetscreamer | humbug |
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| 14:43.49 | jetscreamer | !info linuxlogo |
| 14:43.54 | dpkg | linuxlogo: (Color ANSI System Logo), section misc, is extra. Version: 4.14-5 (sid), Packaged size: 61 kB, Installed size: 232 kB |
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| 14:45.02 | Enforcer_ | ahuh |
| 14:45.06 | jetscreamer | ok so what does it do |
| 14:45.13 | Enforcer_ | I found /etc/init.d/linuxlogo start |
| 14:45.20 | jetscreamer | or what is it supposed to do rather... bootsplash? |
| 14:45.23 | Enforcer_ | then I done display and it showed me |
| 14:45.40 | jetscreamer | ok so it's like a bootsplash when you start your computer? |
| 14:45.42 | Enforcer_ | just a ascii picture showing cpu, ram, os ect |
| 14:45.49 | jetscreamer | o |
| 14:45.56 | jetscreamer | well it works i guess eh |
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| 14:46.25 | Enforcer_ | I dunno if it will work when booting up |
| 14:46.31 | Enforcer_ | im about to findout |
| 14:46.42 | Enforcer_ | there is no bootsplash for debian is there?> |
| 14:46.46 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 14:46.55 | jetscreamer | a few different implementations |
| 14:47.02 | jetscreamer | usplash is the one i got working |
| 14:47.06 | jetscreamer | there are others |
| 14:47.13 | Enforcer_ | thats the only thing debians missing |
| 14:47.20 | jetscreamer | !bootsplash |
| 14:47.20 | dpkg | [bootsplash] http://www.bootsplash.org/ see also gensplash, or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdeskhks/chapter/hack08.pdf, or download kernel sources, apply bootsplash patches to it, enable frambuffer and disable "bootup logo", compile the kernel, install bootsplash package, patch initrd image with "splash", update boot manager and reboot |
| 14:47.30 | Enforcer_ | nice bootspash and good res in console |
| 14:47.43 | jetscreamer | vga=0x318 |
| 14:47.50 | jetscreamer | i like it |
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| 14:47.52 | Enforcer_ | how do I sewt that |
| 14:48.16 | Enforcer_ | hmm I need to make my box do /etc/init.d/linuxlogo start on bootup |
| 14:48.16 | jetscreamer | edit /boot/grub/menu.lst look for kopts= .. read the comments in the file! |
| 14:48.17 | Enforcer_ | how? |
| 14:48.40 | jetscreamer | ls /etc/rc2.d it should be in there, if it is you're good to go |
| 14:48.52 | jetscreamer | a symlink should be in there |
| 14:49.02 | jetscreamer | that points to the script in /etc/init.d |
| 14:49.18 | Enforcer_ | S99linuxlogo |
| 14:49.24 | Enforcer_ | its not starting though |
| 14:49.25 | jetscreamer | goodtogo |
| 14:49.27 | Enforcer_ | or showing me |
| 14:49.29 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 14:49.43 | jetscreamer | no idea then |
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| 14:50.05 | jetscreamer | are you using xorg and gdm or kdm or xdm? |
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| 14:50.21 | jetscreamer | if so gdm may be loading before it has a chance |
| 14:50.30 | jetscreamer | just a guess |
| 14:50.47 | streuner | Don't guess, know! ⢠|
| 14:50.52 | arussel | I can configure my wifi interface but the configuration is lost after each reboot. How can "keep" it ? |
| 14:51.08 | Enforcer_ | # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 |
| 14:51.09 | Enforcer_ | # Default-Stop: 0 6 |
| 14:51.10 | Enforcer_ | wtf |
| 14:51.12 | streuner | /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 14:51.14 | jetscreamer | i knew that factoid once |
| 14:51.23 | Enforcer_ | no none |
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| 14:51.25 | Enforcer_ | this is a server |
| 14:51.28 | Enforcer_ | with no gui |
| 14:51.33 | nvz | my wifi doesn't work until I run dhclient for some reason |
| 14:51.35 | Enforcer_ | or wm dm |
| 14:51.39 | jetscreamer | k |
| 14:51.48 | jetscreamer | well that's about all i'm good for |
| 14:51.53 | streuner | arussel: if the driver use interfaces |
| 14:51.53 | nvz | if I try run iwconfig without running something like dhclient first it says eth1 no such device |
| 14:51.54 | jetscreamer | turns it over to streuner |
| 14:52.00 | streuner | NO |
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| 14:52.09 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 14:52.28 | nvz | I'd have to figure out why the card isn't fully initalizing before I could even worry about saving settings :-p |
| 14:52.29 | streuner | arussel: third party driver? |
| 14:52.47 | arussel | streuner: I don't think it does. I am using rt61, I just recompiled it for the new kernel but no conf was ever written in interfaces |
| 14:52.55 | arussel | streuner: from serialmonkey |
| 14:53.01 | streuner | !rt61 |
| 14:53.01 | dpkg | The legacy driver for Ralink RT2561 (rt61) chipsets is at http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/IS_Linux_STA_6x_D_1.1.1.0.tar.gz, enhanced legacy driver is at http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt61-cvs-daily.tar.gz. Note that firmware is required for the enhanced driver: http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/RT61_Firmware_V1.2.zip. Also ask me about <rt2x00>. |
| 14:53.21 | streuner | arussel: read the README again form the tar.gz |
| 14:53.37 | arussel | streuner: i know, I got it and it works. It just forget its conf at each reboot |
| 14:53.39 | streuner | its different to configure (not interfaces), IIRC |
| 14:53.43 | Enforcer_ | theres no kopts |
| 14:53.45 | Enforcer_ | just this |
| 14:53.59 | streuner | arussel: well, blame them then :-) |
| 14:54.01 | jetscreamer | !paste |
| 14:54.01 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 14:54.03 | Enforcer_ | ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro |
| 14:54.04 | Enforcer_ | ## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro |
| 14:54.04 | Enforcer_ | ## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro |
| 14:54.04 | Enforcer_ | # kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro |
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| 14:54.08 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 14:54.18 | jetscreamer | kopts, kopt, wth |
| 14:54.21 | streuner | !+tell Enforcer_ -about paste |
| 14:54.21 | Enforcer_ | what do I need to do |
| 14:54.22 | dpkg | told Enforcer_ about paste. |
| 14:54.31 | jetscreamer | it's kopt |
| 14:54.33 | arussel | streuner: well, they did a good enough driver, can't blame them. |
| 14:54.39 | jetscreamer | do not uncomment it, like the file says |
| 14:54.56 | jetscreamer | just add vga=whatever-you-like to it |
| 14:54.58 | Enforcer_ | ok |
| 14:55.08 | Enforcer_ | whats a good one? |
| 14:55.10 | jetscreamer | 0x318 gives me 1024@24bit |
| 14:55.13 | Enforcer_ | for a 14" monitor |
| 14:55.15 | Enforcer_ | ok |
| 14:55.17 | jetscreamer | do hwinfo --framebuffer |
| 14:55.22 | jetscreamer | !hwinfo |
| 14:55.22 | dpkg | hwinfo is, like, your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
| 14:55.31 | jetscreamer | install it |
| 14:55.45 | Enforcer_ | canit |
| 14:55.47 | Enforcer_ | cant |
| 14:55.50 | larsemil | hoxu: hey. i have some problems with lenny... |
| 14:55.53 | Enforcer_ | that box is not on the net |
| 14:56.01 | jetscreamer | sneakernet it |
| 14:56.03 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 14:56.09 | Enforcer_ | ? |
| 14:56.09 | jetscreamer | or just use 0x318 |
| 14:56.14 | larsemil | hoxu: just kidding.. :) working fine |
| 14:56.14 | ma3x | if i copy fonts to ~/.fonts and then run fc-cache -fv will that enter them into the system? |
| 14:56.21 | jetscreamer | cp it from floppy, memstick, et al... |
| 14:56.25 | jetscreamer | sneakernet |
| 14:56.46 | jetscreamer | (use your feet) |
| 14:57.09 | jetscreamer | it might be on the dvd if you have it, or the cd |
| 14:57.11 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 14:57.11 | hoxu | !lart larsemil |
| 14:57.11 | dpkg | overclocks larsemil until larsemil burns out |
| 14:57.38 | Enforcer_ | # kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro |
| 14:57.38 | Enforcer_ | # kopt=vga=0x318 |
| 14:57.43 | Enforcer_ | does that look alright? |
| 14:57.48 | jetscreamer | no just add it to the line |
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| 14:58.10 | jetscreamer | you might look at root=UUID= too long as you're in the area |
| 14:58.10 | Enforcer_ | # kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro vga=0x318 ?? |
| 14:58.15 | jetscreamer | yeah |
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| 14:58.29 | jetscreamer | http://linux.hfds.com/files/menu.lst iirc |
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| 14:59.02 | ma3x | jetscreamer, u know where to copy fonts from windows? |
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| 14:59.17 | ma3x | (to what directory on linux)? |
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| 14:59.39 | jetscreamer | o i put mine in defoptions so it wouldn't be in the single entries |
| 14:59.47 | jetscreamer | just the default |
| 15:00.00 | Enforcer_ | hmm looks no different |
| 15:00.06 | jetscreamer | ma3x: do you have msttcorefonts installed? |
| 15:00.19 | ma3x | jetscreamer, yes but i want to copy more fonts from windows and i don't know where |
| 15:00.23 | jetscreamer | Enforcer_: yeah you had it good |
| 15:00.36 | jetscreamer | Enforcer_: that link was more to show you the UUID= thing |
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| 15:01.17 | jetscreamer | Enforcer_: but in kopt, it will be in every menu entry... in def options, just the default one |
| 15:01.28 | jetscreamer | iirc... read the comments in the file, it's well commented |
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| 15:01.32 | Enforcer_ | jetscreamer, the font is no bigger |
| 15:01.40 | jetscreamer | font? |
| 15:01.44 | jetscreamer | o |
| 15:01.58 | jetscreamer | you have to actually get it to work |
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| 15:02.00 | Enforcer_ | well what was that command to do? |
| 15:02.04 | eps | where is the dep fix for openoffice in sid? the package group has been broken for two weeks now |
| 15:02.10 | Enforcer_ | get what to work? |
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| 15:02.18 | jetscreamer | framebuffer |
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| 15:02.20 | Enforcer_ | oh |
| 15:02.22 | jetscreamer | !framebuffer |
| 15:02.22 | dpkg | framebuffer is probably a region of memory into which "frames" of graphical data are drawn. if you're looking for the framebuffer console, see <fbcon>. X is also a framebuffer system, as is berlin. <blacklist> to negate it. |
| 15:02.30 | jetscreamer | !fbcon |
| 15:02.30 | dpkg | [fbcon] a graphics driver built into the kernel that accesses the video cards memory directly in a linear io, framebuffered X is just a way of using that kernel's framebuffer for graphics instead of the application itself having to know how the card works.. executive summary: it's hardware abstraction of the video, or slow, slow, slow... ask me about <fbcon resolution> |
| 15:02.34 | Enforcer_ | I thoguth that was to change the fond when debian loads up |
| 15:02.38 | Enforcer_ | how do I do that |
| 15:02.41 | jetscreamer | yeah in console |
| 15:02.44 | jetscreamer | just the font? |
| 15:02.54 | jetscreamer | or the resolution? |
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| 15:03.00 | Enforcer_ | resolution |
| 15:03.07 | jetscreamer | vga= |
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| 15:03.14 | Enforcer_ | I done that |
| 15:03.18 | Enforcer_ | its still big |
| 15:04.36 | Enforcer_ | jetscreamer? |
| 15:05.11 | jetscreamer | there is a framebuffer module (or two) but i can't swear you have to load them explicitly, i ass-u-me-d that they would autoload on boot |
| 15:05.21 | jetscreamer | vga16 or so, iirc |
| 15:05.24 | jetscreamer | et al |
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| 15:05.37 | jetscreamer | i can't look atm |
| 15:05.54 | Enforcer_ | vga=vga16? |
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| 15:05.59 | jetscreamer | nono |
| 15:06.20 | Enforcer_ | forget about framebuffer for now |
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| 15:06.26 | jetscreamer | vga16(or so i can't remember the name off the top of my head) would be a kernel module |
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| 15:06.39 | lvh | hello. Could anyone enlighten me as to which packages I need for the NX _server_? |
| 15:06.42 | lvh | I have qtnx. |
| 15:06.44 | Enforcer_ | I just want to make the standard console res better |
| 15:06.48 | jetscreamer | that i can't swear if you need to explicitly have it loaded via /etc/modules |
| 15:06.53 | balzac5000 | Kind Folks, I'm upgrading from sarge to etch on a machine with an Adaptec 29160 card in it. I've followed the release notes for the upgrade, purged hotplug and installed udev and initrd-tools and watched myinitrd create a new initrd image but I'm getting a kernel panic on reboot into linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem - the last error complains about the smp_apic_timer_interrupt - any clues? |
| 15:06.55 | Enforcer_ | like when the system is loading |
| 15:06.58 | Enforcer_ | and when I login |
| 15:07.10 | jetscreamer | vga=779 or 774 ... you can also try vga=ask |
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| 15:07.19 | jetscreamer | 779==0x318 iirc |
| 15:07.28 | asg | balzac5000: try booting the kernel with 'noapic nolapic' and see if that helps |
| 15:07.32 | jetscreamer | 774 is 16bit i believe |
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| 15:07.52 | jetscreamer | you would probably benefit greatly from doing hwinfo --framebuffer |
| 15:08.15 | jetscreamer | time for me to fly |
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| 15:08.23 | balzac5000 | asg: thanks for the response! Would that be interactively from the grub menu - or by editing the grub file? |
| 15:08.33 | Enforcer_ | # kopt=root=/dev/hdb1 ro vga=774 |
| 15:08.37 | Enforcer_ | look ok? |
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| 15:08.55 | asg | balzac5000: either works, just add those two at the end of the kernel line (If it does help, add it to your grub file after booting) |
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| 15:09.16 | balzac5000 | I'll try it and let you know what happens - I appreciate the help! |
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| 15:11.54 | jetscreamer | yeah |
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| 15:12.34 | jetscreamer | maybe hit e at the grub menu and make it vga=ask |
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| 15:13.07 | jetscreamer | bails |
| 15:13.34 | balzac5000 | asg: Ok - I added "noapic nolapic" to the end of the "kernel /vmlinuz.." line at the gurb menu. I'm afraid now it spontaneously reboots right after the "waiting for /dev to be populated" message |
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| 15:16.41 | ommpa_loompa | Hi everybody |
| 15:18.32 | asg | balzac5000: hmmm, you might try adding 'nosmp' also to see if you can get it to boot. Otherwise, I'm not sure; sounds like udev isn't playing nice. |
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| 15:19.28 | jetscreamer | balzac5000: you don't have root=UUID= in there do you |
| 15:19.32 | jetscreamer | just root= |
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| 15:20.07 | balzac5000 | asg: Yeah. During the upgrade procedure described in the release notes I noticed a message about hotplug - which I ended up removing by hand and installing udev and initrd-tools manually |
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| 15:20.34 | ommpa_loompa | do any of you guys know a good apache module to limit bandwidth usage on virtual host on a monthly basis? |
| 15:20.36 | balzac5000 | jetscreamer: thanks for chiming in! Are you talking about in the "kernel" line of the grub file? |
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| 15:21.03 | ommpa_loompa | I am self hosted and share my bandwidth with 3 other people so I need to limit all 3 of us |
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| 15:23.01 | balzac5000 | jetscreamer: I do have a "root=/dev/hda2" in the "kernel" line... |
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| 15:25.04 | balzac5000 | asg: Got a little further with "nosmp" - now I get a kernel Oops "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request" |
| 15:25.31 | balzac5000 | Boots the pre-2.6.18 kernel just fine so I'm really scratching my head on this one... |
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| 15:27.12 | quitte | Tapout: you don'T have non-free in your sources.list, maybe? |
| 15:27.46 | rks | #flood |
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| 15:46.11 | dada | i get this infamous"could not open default font 'fixed'" |
| 15:46.13 | balzac5000 | Hmmm - I'm still trying to get my sarge > etch upgrade to boot in the new kernel. I thought maybe reinstalling initramfs-tools might help and when I tried to purge it I got this series of messages http://www.pastebin.ca/983690 |
| 15:46.18 | dada | google is full of it |
| 15:46.27 | dada | but i'm still searching |
| 15:46.28 | valdyn | !fixed |
| 15:46.28 | dpkg | fixed font is probably if X is complaining about "finding font 'fixed'" you don't have the xfonts-base package. usually this means you want to "aptitude install xorg" |
| 15:46.40 | balzac5000 | What's the best way to proceed here? |
| 15:46.58 | balzac5000 | Uninstall everything that's BROKEN and try again? |
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| 15:48.23 | dada | yes i have xfonds-bas |
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| 15:49.12 | dada | sorry xfonts-base ;) |
| 15:49.27 | stew | balzac5000: i'd recommend trying to get initramfs-tools to work instead of trying to use yaird. i'd recommend reinstalling initramfs-tools then running "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.18-6-686-bigmem" in order to force it to create a new initrd. |
| 15:49.38 | stew | balzac5000: what exactly is the problem you are trying to solve? |
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| 15:49.58 | stew | dada: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 15:50.22 | dada | updated from lenny to sid |
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| 15:50.42 | stew | dada: show us your xorg.conf ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 15:51.01 | balzac5000 | stew: I appreciate the help. I"m upgrading from sarge to etch and everything's gone great except the boot to the udev-enabled kernel. It either freezes on a kernel oops or reboots spontaneously. I've tired adding "nosmp noapic nolapic" at boot with no difference |
| 15:51.18 | balzac5000 | SO "yaird" is an alternative to initrdfs-tols? |
| 15:51.31 | dada | stew: yes, wait a moment |
| 15:51.36 | stew | balzac5000: yes, its an alternative that exists mostly for people that dont' want udev |
| 15:51.58 | balzac5000 | If Debian folks day it's cool, I'm all for udev |
| 15:52.00 | balzac5000 | =8^) |
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| 15:52.27 | kakashi_ | I want to convert a djvu document to pdf |
| 15:52.28 | stew | balzac5000: its becomming increasingly hard to avoid udev |
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| 15:52.43 | kakashi_ | is there any package that can help me |
| 15:52.44 | balzac5000 | Hey - I'm the anti-salmon here, I go WITH the flow |
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| 15:53.12 | dada | stew: sorry don't get this pastebin from text console, how? |
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| 15:53.35 | balzac5000 | I'll try a "aptitude reinstall initramfs-tools" and then a "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.18-6-686-bigmem" and let you know what I get! |
| 15:54.18 | stew | !pastewithoutx |
| 15:54.19 | dpkg | i heard pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
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| 15:54.43 | stew | balzac5000: if you are getting kernel oops and reboots that are seeming unpredicatble, you might also give memtest86+ a whirl |
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| 15:54.49 | pihhan | hello |
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| 15:55.11 | Haris | Hello people |
| 15:55.21 | balzac5000 | stew: I'm tempted, but this is a production box that's been running 2.6 kernels for quite a while with no errors |
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| 15:55.27 | Haris | does debian have a package for -> http://rtg.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 15:55.33 | stew | Haris: /msg dpkg search |
| 15:55.38 | Haris | can't find it in apt-cache search rtg |
| 15:55.44 | pihhan | anyone knows what i need to modify in exim, if i want accept one sender address in my domain, where sender account does not exist? |
| 15:56.01 | Haris | hmm, no reply |
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| 15:56.14 | linxxer | pihhan: Virtual user? |
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| 15:56.37 | Haris | dpkg doesn't reply for rtg *laugh* |
| 15:56.43 | ^Nikiforos^ | hi |
| 15:56.43 | Haris | touchy! |
| 15:57.06 | Haris | the /proc/sys/net/core/somaxconn didn't help in the problem as well |
| 15:57.16 | pihhan | linxxer, it is smsd user, but that user is on another machine, and relayed to mail server, where smsd does not exist. but relaying fails, as sender account does not exist on relay server |
| 15:57.17 | Haris | for my other problem |
| 15:57.30 | Haris | the tcp_max_syn_backlog hasn't helped either |
| 15:57.35 | balzac5000 | stew: Still spontaneously rebooting but it seems to be doing so after the "agppart" command - do I need to uninstall drivers? There's no GUI on this machine... |
| 15:57.56 | stew | balzac5000: agpgart? you might try blacklisting it: /msg dpkg blacklits |
| 15:58.02 | stew | balzac5000: err /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 15:58.25 | stew | balzac5000: "/msg dpkg bootlog" is probably going to come in handy as well |
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| 15:58.43 | ^Nikiforos^ | i have a problem with /dev after installing updates on debian lenny |
| 15:58.51 | ^Nikiforos^ | it stacks on boot |
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| 15:59.06 | dena | I have a laptop on my home network and I want to permanently mount a share. I can mount it with this command: mount -t smbfs -o password = //laptop/share /home/dena/share. Will this always stay mounted even when my laptop leaves and comes back? or do I need to mount it in fstab as well somehow? |
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| 15:59.21 | balzac5000 | stew: Huh - issue those at a bash prompt? |
| 15:59.31 | dada | how do i put something on pastebin from text console? |
| 15:59.33 | pihhan | dena, no, it wont, you have to use fstab |
| 15:59.37 | stew | balzac5000: no, from your irc window |
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| 15:59.45 | stew | balzac5000: (dpkg is a bot here full of information) |
| 15:59.55 | balzac5000 | I'm booting in the old 2.6.4. kernel now |
| 15:59.55 | dena | pihhan, and how do I do that? I've never done fstab stuff |
| 15:59.55 | stew | dena: you'd need to put it into fstab |
| 15:59.55 | balzac5000 | AH |
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| 16:00.30 | Dave_is_sexy | Hey everyone. Debian has stopped noticing USB devices completely. ls /dev/sd* returns nothing at all. Is there a module I can probe to shake it up a bit? |
| 16:00.37 | acu | what is the difference between daily and weely Lenny ? - I found out that NVIDIA does not work on AMD64 with the kernel 2.6.24 and thinking if I install from clean I have a better shot at it |
| 16:00.38 | pihhan | dena, //laptop/share /home/dena/share cifs credentials=/home/dena/.smbpasswd |
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| 16:01.11 | ^Nikiforos^ | waiting for /dev to be fully populated.... does anyone knows why stack here on boot ? |
| 16:01.18 | pihhan | dena, put that to fstab, and create /home/dena/.smbpasswd with username on first line, password on second line |
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| 16:01.32 | pihhan | dena, check man smbmount for details |
| 16:01.53 | jeff07 | hello every body, i would like to active gnome evenments sounds on etch, but nothing i don't know why... all sounds are good with all applications, can u help me? thank u |
| 16:01.58 | dena | pihhan, what about if there is no password? should I just give it a blank? or do i even need to specify? |
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| 16:02.44 | pihhan | dena, put there guest instead credentials |
| 16:03.05 | pihhan | dena, and without path to file of course, only guest as options |
| 16:03.06 | JEIMS | CIAO A TUTTI |
| 16:03.10 | dena | pihhan, so would i just put guest on top line and anything on the second line? |
| 16:03.32 | pihhan | dena, no, dont create that file anyway |
| 16:04.09 | dena | pihhan, so just touch the file and that's it put nothing in it... |
| 16:04.11 | pihhan | dena, you may put username=username also, if you have some user, but without password |
| 16:05.16 | dada | sid "could not open default font 'fixed'" |
| 16:05.28 | dena | pihhan, so what if when my computer comes up the laptop isn't on yet? will it still mount it when I try to access it? |
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| 16:05.50 | pihhan | dena, if you dont need password, then you dont need another file, only line in fstab |
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| 16:06.57 | acu | can I install two different Debians on the same box ? |
| 16:07.05 | pihhan | dena, i dont know, it will try mount on boot, dont know how it does handle failure |
| 16:07.27 | pihhan | acu, yes, if you have more than one partitions |
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| 16:07.39 | dada | acu: yes, put them in different partitions |
| 16:07.52 | dena | pihhan, ok i'll try it now thx |
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| 16:08.38 | ^Nikiforos^ | :(((((((( |
| 16:09.00 | acu | dada - pihan -great I have it ready |
| 16:10.07 | dada | what font packages to install to get font 'fixed'? |
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| 16:10.36 | acu | one more question: usually I install trough the network and I am tired of burning CDs - I want to install it from USB - I just want to know what files I do need to have on the uSB - I want daily |
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| 16:11.09 | stew | acu: /msg dpkg usb-install |
| 16:11.10 | dada | acu: there is an installer for usb sticks |
| 16:11.21 | charls | hi |
| 16:11.45 | charls | i have a little but bothering problem |
| 16:11.51 | charls | with ubuntu |
| 16:11.59 | charls | i am in the right place? |
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| 16:12.21 | DirkGently | charls: try #ubuntu |
| 16:12.21 | stew | charls: no, please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 16:12.38 | charls | oh ok, thanx anyways |
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| 16:13.17 | ^Nikiforos^ | does anyone knows why stack on waiting for /dev to be fully populated.... ? |
| 16:13.26 | ^Nikiforos^ | i have debian lenny |
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| 16:15.35 | balzac5000 | Can anyone deduce why my 2.6.18 kernel freezes at boot? Here's a boot log when booting 2.6.4 http://www.pastebin.ca/983757 Do I have a module problem? |
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| 16:16.45 | dada | so if i say '/msg dpkg pastebin' i should receive an answer from the bot? |
| 16:16.56 | hesco | Which man page describes pinning a package? |
| 16:17.02 | stew | dada: yes |
| 16:17.05 | stew | hesco: apt_preferences |
| 16:17.10 | hesco | thanks |
| 16:17.26 | stew | balzac5000: another option is for you to try a newer kernel (like 2.6.22 or 2.6.24) from bpo: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 16:17.41 | dada | stew: but i don't (or don't see it, using erc) |
| 16:18.28 | \amethyst | balzac5000: do you get an error message when it freezes? |
| 16:18.35 | balzac5000 | stew: interesting idea |
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| 16:19.28 | balzac5000 | \amethyst: usually something referring to smp_apic_interrupt_timer, but I've tried adding "noapic nosmp nolapic" at boot with no difference. |
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| 16:20.48 | balzac5000 | It seems to reboot RIGHT after trying to deal with agpgart, and I've already blacklisted that |
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| 16:21.18 | dada | stew: found the message from dpkg |
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| 16:22.05 | mboman_ | I get error when I try to update the initrd |
| 16:22.35 | stew | mboman_: what is the error? |
| 16:22.36 | mboman_ | It has problem doing the gzip bit |
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| 16:22.54 | muddd | when i go to install etch the cd integrity check says my cd is bad... i downloaded the i386 cd using bittorrent twice on 2 different computers... wth |
| 16:23.13 | mboman_ | stew: basically it just dumps out how to execute gzip |
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| 16:24.27 | mboman_ | stew: Building cpio /tmp/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic.new initramfs |
| 16:24.38 | mboman_ | stew: usage: gzip [-cdfhlLnNtvV19] [-S suffix] [file ...] |
| 16:25.02 | stew | mboman_: whta version of intiramfs-tools? |
| 16:25.31 | muddd | crap bbl |
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| 16:25.59 | mboman_ | stew: 0.85eubuntu20 |
| 16:26.18 | stew | mboman_: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 16:27.14 | acu | is any way to play flash (youtube) on an AMD64 ? |
| 16:27.28 | stew | acu: gnash version 0.80 or better |
| 16:27.56 | mboman_ | stew: sorry, I thought I went there.. sorry |
| 16:28.46 | JyZyXEL | god damn where is the manual for bandwidthd |
| 16:28.50 | JyZyXEL | can't find it with google |
| 16:29.55 | \amethyst | JyZyXEL: you mean man bandwidthd and man bandwidthd.conf ? |
| 16:30.11 | JyZyXEL | don't have it installed |
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| 16:30.53 | JyZyXEL | ah found it from the CVS o.o |
| 16:31.02 | JyZyXEL | hey this CVS thing |
| 16:31.07 | JyZyXEL | how do i learn about it? |
| 16:31.32 | hoxu | JyZyXEL, you read the manual |
| 16:31.42 | JyZyXEL | manuals hardly are for learning |
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| 16:32.01 | maligor | acu, you can also use nspluginwrapper with the adobe plugin |
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| 16:32.09 | maligor | it sometimes goes berserk however |
| 16:32.11 | JyZyXEL | oh wikipedia ofc |
| 16:32.12 | hoxu | JyZyXEL, knowing that, I believe you are perfectly capable of crafting a google query to find something better :p |
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| 16:32.33 | hoxu | JyZyXEL, and well, while you are at it, just go for SVN right away, CVS is obsolete |
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| 16:33.03 | lilkid | what's the command to read the documentation of software? [sorry new to linux] |
| 16:33.10 | hoxu | lilkid, man |
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| 16:33.18 | hoxu | lilkid, man man for starters :P |
| 16:33.21 | maligor | info |
| 16:33.33 | lilkid | :P thanks |
| 16:33.37 | hoxu | maligor, surely you want them to kill their fingers while figuring the keybindings? |
| 16:33.44 | acu | maligor, thanks I am so afraid when I see wraper there |
| 16:33.53 | maligor | well, some documents are only available in info |
| 16:34.13 | maligor | you can use Yelp in gnome to browse them too |
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| 16:34.44 | hesco | On an update/upgrade after adding a pin in /etc/apt/preferences, and adding a sid repository to /etc/apt/sources, I get following error: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. |
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| 16:34.52 | maligor | which provides a very nice info-browser :) |
| 16:35.11 | hesco | what does that mean and what is its remedy. df -h says I have plenty of headroom on all partitions. |
| 16:35.14 | maligor | yelp also has Man pages |
| 16:35.25 | stew | hesco: /msg dpkg mmap |
| 16:35.35 | hesco | thanks stew, will do |
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| 16:39.08 | Doug52392 | Hi |
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| 16:40.36 | stew | 10:04 < Doug52392> everything works fine now. What caused that anyway? |
| 16:40.49 | stew | Doug52392: running a broken 3rd party kernel module installer of some sort |
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| 16:41.20 | Doug52392 | ? |
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| 16:43.09 | hikenboot | greetings guys here's an off the wall question if you think I would be better asking elsewhere let me know ---anyone have any luck building an xserver /xdesktop based on XCB http://xcb.freedesktop.org/ D-BUS Cairo XCL http://varkhan.free.fr/software/xcl/XCLE/index.php and Xserver http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Xserver? |
| 16:44.36 | hesco | so I tried everything that /msg dpkg mmap suggested, but no change of error. Is there something I need to restart to make apt see its config files anew? |
| 16:44.41 | stew | hikenboot: perhaps #freedesktop |
| 16:44.49 | hikenboot | thanks stew |
| 16:45.14 | stew | hesco: "/msg dpkg mmap" tells you how to fix it. usually it means you have more sources than you need in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:45.22 | Givvade | when I try to burn a mixed mode (audio and data) CD wit k3b, I always get the following errors... http://pastebin.com/m3b9c9cd7 |
| 16:45.30 | Givvade | does someone here know a solution to that? |
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| 16:46.28 | \amethyst | Givvade: maybe you can turn CD-text off? I don't know k3b, so I'm not sure how |
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| 16:47.13 | Nyle | #k3b |
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| 16:47.32 | hesco | I want grub from sid, but stable for everything else on this production server. I want to pin this choice so I don't have to remember that I made this choice. I have 4 listings in my present sources.list: binary and source for etch and sid main branches. |
| 16:47.39 | \amethyst | Givvade: hmm, there isn't an answer there, but you're not the first person to encounter this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=474231 |
| 16:47.56 | stew | hesco: you should not mix unstable and stable, use a backport: /msg dpkg backports |
| 16:47.59 | hesco | I guess I could give up source. I'm not doing that sort of development on this server |
| 16:48.07 | hesco | ok |
| 16:48.11 | Nyle | hesco, you should build a backported grub for etch then |
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| 16:48.28 | Givvade | yes, thats exactly the problem I have, too... |
| 16:48.31 | Nyle | why do you need grub from sid? any particular reason |
| 16:48.32 | hesco | thanks Nyle. |
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| 16:48.43 | hesco | sid from etch appears broken |
| 16:48.51 | Nyle | what?! |
| 16:48.51 | stew | hesco: "sid from etch"? |
| 16:48.57 | Nyle | stew, hi man |
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| 16:49.06 | hesco | rather from stable |
| 16:49.18 | Nyle | whats going on with the stew |
| 16:49.27 | adv | does debian stable have a patch for the vmsplice root exploit? |
| 16:49.28 | Nyle | hesco, it still makes no sense |
| 16:49.33 | Nyle | adv, yes |
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| 16:50.34 | anabain_ | hi, I think I've screwed up my system after entering ALT+PRTSCR+R+S+E+I+U+B. I'm having a kernel panic. Moreover, when I enter with puppylinux or knoppix and chroot, commands issue strange messages about missing commas, ARGV, and other stuff. Any ideas? |
| 16:50.37 | henr1 | Hello everybody, I have a question about Evolution, I'm trying to print (to pdf) my calendar (a complete week). The output only show me the resume, not the detailled content. |
| 16:50.37 | henr1 | I already asked on #gnome but no answer, do you have any idea ? |
| 16:50.38 | Nyle | stew, you ignorin me? |
| 16:50.58 | hoxu | Nyle, stop that |
| 16:51.07 | Nyle | hoxu, stop what? |
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| 16:51.37 | adv | what is the recommended way of taking full system backups? |
| 16:51.55 | Nyle | hoxu, what am I stopping? |
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| 16:52.09 | hoxu | adv, depends on your needs really, you could even use tar |
| 16:52.19 | Givvade | adv: perhaps with dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/sda1/hda.iso ? |
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| 16:53.07 | kasper | Givvade: it sould be an offline sulotion |
| 16:53.38 | strikov | Hi! I've read a lot of articles bout netinstall with pppoe but there is no pppoe-setup/pppoeconf in NI iso :/ |
| 16:53.40 | ma3x | is ntfs-3g dangerous for read/write? |
| 16:53.58 | strikov | ma3x: IMHO no |
| 16:54.04 | Doug52392 | I'm looking for one of those programs that monitors the status of your computer and puts it on the desktop, like hard drive/RAM usage, processor usage, net useage, etc |
| 16:54.11 | adv | Givvade: doesn't that copy /proc /sys etc that are not wanted? |
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| 16:54.26 | Snadder | How can I forward source ips from 192.168.0.20 to 192.168.0.40 with iptables?.. /sbin/iptables -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.0.20/255.255.255.???? -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.1 |
| 16:54.41 | anabain_ | If I decide to reinstall the system, which has a /home partition separated from the other dirs, will the debian installer overwrite the user's stuff which is at /home, or will it respect it? I mean when the installer says you must create a new user... |
| 16:54.52 | Nyle | Doug52392, well there might be good looking system panels for the DE you use |
| 16:54.58 | aris | hello, I have a sarge/x86 system. I need more recent toolchains but I have to keep linux 2.4. Will the 2.4 kernel work with etch ? |
| 16:55.09 | Nyle | Doug52392, there are lots in superkaramba in kde, some generic gtk2 ones for gnome, some xbased ones |
| 16:55.17 | Doug52392 | I use GNOME |
| 16:55.17 | Nyle | Doug52392, most popular I think is gkrellm |
| 16:56.30 | Nyle | aris, i don't think so |
| 16:56.40 | Nyle | not without a lot of work |
| 16:57.19 | aris | because some release note says they left 2.2 support, and that some applications 2.6-dependant may not work |
| 16:57.58 | Nyle | hoxu, I would still like to know why you asked me to stop? stop what? |
| 16:58.09 | adv | can i backup the full system with dd? afaik /proc and some other dirs shouldnt be backed up. |
| 16:58.22 | Nyle | adv, google for, how to backup a linux system |
| 16:58.37 | aris | http://www.debianhelp.org/node/8480 hmm debian's view is that it may work |
| 16:59.17 | anabain_ | anything alive? :) |
| 16:59.34 | Doug52392 | How do I get gkrellm on my desktop? |
| 16:59.39 | kasper | none |
| 16:59.44 | agnitio_ | wich init-script controls networkmanager in etch? |
| 16:59.44 | anabain_ | (anybody), excuse me! |
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| 17:02.07 | cusco | Doug52392: how about installing it? |
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| 17:02.26 | mib_c7sip79d | hello |
| 17:02.56 | XtypeWriter74 | hello |
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| 17:03.12 | mib_c7sip79d | anyone konw chinese |
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| 17:03.27 | XtypeWriter74 | not yet |
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| 17:03.41 | mib_c7sip79d | yeah it's OK |
| 17:03.59 | mib_c7sip79d | i have to use a web login |
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| 17:04.09 | mib_c7sip79d | my mirc dont work |
| 17:04.40 | \amethyst | !zh |
| 17:04.40 | dpkg | i guess cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
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| 17:05.17 | mib_c7sip79d | o really? thank you |
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| 17:05.39 | WormFood | last time I tried, #debian-zh was empty |
| 17:05.46 | Nyle | zh is chinese? |
| 17:05.51 | WormFood | yes |
| 17:05.56 | \amethyst | bas: { program1; program2; program3; } > myfifo |
| 17:05.57 | \amethyst | doh |
| 17:06.00 | Nyle | then what the hell is .ch? |
| 17:06.02 | curtmack | Okay, so Lenny isn't the stable distribution, but it's not like "your computer will crash every 10 seconds" unstable, right? |
| 17:06.03 | Nyle | !.ch |
| 17:06.03 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, .ch is NOT China, .ch is Switzerland. China is .cn |
| 17:06.11 | Nyle | what kinda shit is this |
| 17:06.17 | WormFood | yes, china is .cn |
| 17:06.19 | Nyle | how the hell is ch switzerland |
| 17:06.24 | WormFood | and canada is .ca |
| 17:06.28 | Nyle | and ge or gr is not germanay |
| 17:06.30 | Nyle | but its de |
| 17:06.35 | \amethyst | Nyle: Confederatio Helvetica |
| 17:06.44 | Nyle | where they did come up with these two letter country codes |
| 17:06.44 | kasper | i doubt you can go there if you are not using utf8 |
| 17:06.46 | curtmack | I find that confusing though, that cn is China and zh is the language code for Chinese |
| 17:06.47 | \amethyst | err, ConfÅderatio |
| 17:06.50 | WormFood | china is ä¸å½ |
| 17:06.57 | mib_c7sip79d | just crashed |
| 17:06.59 | curtmack | Nyle: They're the actual names of the countries |
| 17:07.08 | mib_c7sip79d | how can you type chinese |
| 17:07.09 | WormFood | the first word in china is "Zhong" |
| 17:07.13 | Nyle | curtmack, in their respective languages then |
| 17:07.14 | kasper | china is a pain in the ass |
| 17:07.14 | WormFood | that is why it is "zh" |
| 17:07.15 | Nyle | ohhhhhhh |
| 17:07.19 | Nyle | I get it |
| 17:07.22 | mib_c7sip79d | the last is GUO |
| 17:07.23 | curtmack | in German for example, they call themselves "Deutsh-land" |
| 17:07.30 | curtmack | (not sure on spelling though) |
| 17:07.32 | WormFood | zhong = ä¸ |
| 17:07.42 | Nyle | its the name of the country usedas a country code, but not in english, just whatever the country is in its own langauges enlicized |
| 17:07.43 | WormFood | mib_c7sip79d, install scim to type in chinese ;) |
| 17:07.48 | Nyle | alright then |
| 17:07.56 | mib_c7sip79d | china = "zhong guo" |
| 17:07.59 | WormFood | that is what I use to type chinese |
| 17:07.59 | streuner | Nyle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-level_domain |
| 17:08.08 | Nyle | streuner, already on it mate |
| 17:08.09 | Nyle | thank you |
| 17:08.19 | kasper | it's a indian's name -- zhong guo |
| 17:08.26 | \amethyst | Nyle: Switzerland's official name is in Latin probably because it has four different official languages |
| 17:08.26 | curtmack | although Japan is jp even though the Japanese word is nihon (or, more traditionally, nippon) |
| 17:08.27 | kasper | i saw this |
| 17:08.39 | mib_c7sip79d | how?indian? |
| 17:08.41 | Nyle | PK for Pakistan! |
| 17:08.46 | WormFood | zhong guo is pinyin (roman alphabet for chinese) |
| 17:08.47 | kasper | this guy was working in ti |
| 17:08.54 | mib_c7sip79d | yes' |
| 17:09.01 | Nyle | kasper, its not an indian name |
| 17:09.07 | Nyle | kasper, it could be the namne of an indian sure |
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| 17:09.10 | Nyle | but its NOT an indian name |
| 17:09.15 | curtmack | did anybody answer my question? I got caught up in this discussion |
| 17:09.15 | mib_c7sip79d | NO |
| 17:09.20 | kasper | he is the maker of the calc command |
| 17:09.22 | mib_c7sip79d | it can't be |
| 17:09.34 | Nyle | !unstable |
| 17:09.34 | dpkg | somebody said unstable was the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>. |
| 17:09.39 | Nyle | !sid faq |
| 17:09.39 | dpkg | http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html or http://weda.mine.nu/sidfaq.html (backup) |
| 17:09.41 | Nyle | !dnuts |
| 17:09.41 | dpkg | from memory, dnuts is Do Not Upgrade To Sid - or Deez Nuts - see <sid upgrade>, or see </msg dpkg sid faq> |
| 17:09.44 | Nyle | curtmack, ^^ |
| 17:09.47 | kasper | do you know of bc or calc? |
| 17:10.00 | curtmack | I'm talking about Lenny, not Sid |
| 17:10.01 | WormFood | heh...sid is all I use...or as I call it "unusable" ;) |
| 17:10.22 | Nyle | 01:05 < curtmack> Okay, so Lenny isn't the stable distribution, but it's not like "your computer will crash every 10 seconds" unstable, right? |
| 17:10.33 | Nyle | thought you were talking bout unstabl ein the last part of your query |
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| 17:10.44 | lontra | how would i check this out? http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-main-menu/ |
| 17:10.54 | WormFood | mib_c7sip79d, if you want to type chinese, install SCIM...it appears to act just like winblows chinese input |
| 17:10.57 | Nyle | curtmack, testing is fairly stable |
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| 17:11.08 | Nyle | what about Arabic input |
| 17:11.10 | curtmack | okay, thanks |
| 17:11.11 | Nyle | or Urdu input |
| 17:11.13 | WormFood | scim too |
| 17:11.15 | Nyle | ok |
| 17:11.17 | mib_c7sip79d | OK thanks |
| 17:11.19 | Nyle | !scim |
| 17:11.25 | Nyle | hm |
| 17:11.36 | curtmack | Or you could use leim+emacs, but leim can sometimes be... well, just what it sounds like |
| 17:11.37 | kasper | the debian stable bench = sid? |
| 17:11.37 | WormFood | scim for all types of input that is not using "normal" alphabet |
| 17:11.45 | curtmack | for example, no one else being able to read what you type |
| 17:11.51 | WormFood | kasper, sid = unstable |
| 17:11.59 | kasper | s/bench/branch |
| 17:12.02 | curtmack | because the character encoding is emacs exclusive |
| 17:12.06 | Nyle | hey |
| 17:12.17 | Nyle | I have a legitimate question somewhat indirectly related to debian |
| 17:12.22 | Nyle | what exactly do worms eat? |
| 17:12.27 | WormFood | dirt |
| 17:12.27 | Nyle | thanks |
| 17:12.31 | WormFood | and dead bodied |
| 17:12.33 | WormFood | bodies |
| 17:12.39 | WormFood | when you're 6 feet under :P |
| 17:12.39 | kasper | what are the testing and the stable? |
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| 17:12.49 | Nyle | !testing |
| 17:12.50 | dpkg | hmm... testing is a release/suite between <stable> and <unstable>. testing currently points to <lenny>. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. Ask me about <etch->lenny>, or a few days old glorified unstable with missing packages |
| 17:12.51 | evo_ | hi. does someone know a good proxy server with sql authentication? |
| 17:12.54 | Nyle | !stable |
| 17:12.54 | dpkg | from memory, stable is the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Etch (4.0r3), or ask me about <releases>. |
| 17:12.57 | kasper | ??? -> sid -> ??? |
| 17:12.59 | mib_c7sip79d | ãã |
| 17:13.00 | Nyle | kasper, /msg dpkg dpkgbot |
| 17:13.02 | curtmack | kasper: Stable is Etch. Testing is Lenny |
| 17:13.11 | Nyle | www.debian.org |
| 17:13.19 | Nyle | !releases |
| 17:13.19 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, releases is See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. see <release history> for prior releases. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 17:13.21 | kasper | lenny -> sid -> etch |
| 17:13.32 | kasper | updated its information |
| 17:13.40 | curtmack | Sid is bleeding edge |
| 17:13.42 | Nyle | lenny sid etch? |
| 17:13.46 | Nyle | are you barking mad are you |
| 17:13.56 | WormFood | !sid |
| 17:13.56 | Nyle | etch -> lenny -> sid |
| 17:13.56 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>" |
| 17:13.59 | Nyle | etch -> lenny -> sid |
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| 17:14.00 | Nyle | oops |
| 17:14.12 | kasper | ??? |
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| 17:14.32 | Nyle | stable <-- testing <-- unstable |
| 17:14.32 | kasper | testing -> unstable -> stable, i think |
| 17:14.36 | Nyle | no |
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| 17:14.40 | kasper | ? |
| 17:14.55 | WormFood | no kasper, testing is between unusable and stable |
| 17:14.58 | kasper | unstable -> testing -> stable? |
| 17:15.00 | Nyle | from unstable to testing, from testing to stable, from stable to oldstable to obsolete |
| 17:15.03 | WormFood | correct kasper |
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| 17:15.34 | curtmack | Yes. Testing is the one that is actively being worked on that will probably work but still has a few kinks. |
| 17:15.43 | WormFood | do not run unstable unless you are willing to fix your machine every time you update |
| 17:15.49 | curtmack | Unstable is just bleeding edge |
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| 17:15.57 | Nyle | bleeding |
| 17:16.09 | Nyle | profusely |
| 17:16.17 | Nyle | on the edge |
| 17:16.19 | curtmack | Anyway, yeah, I need to reinstall Debian for some reason I don't quite understand, so I figured I might as well go Lenny :P |
| 17:16.28 | Nyle | why reinstall? |
| 17:16.29 | WormFood | I still won't run anything but sid....everything else is just too outdated for me |
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| 17:16.40 | Nyle | WormFood, yes, you are leet |
| 17:16.46 | Nyle | we are aware ;) |
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| 17:16.51 | kasper | i forgot these dang debian cluture... |
| 17:16.53 | curtmack | Nyle: I'm having difficulties installing fglrx, me and one of the guys on #ati spent an entire week trying to figure out what to do |
| 17:16.53 | WormFood | it has nothing to do with being leet :P |
| 17:16.59 | hesco | My attempts to install grub from sid leads to unresolved dependencies for grub-common due to its dependency on unifont-bin. Suggestions? |
| 17:17.00 | curtmack | all that's left is a total reinstall |
| 17:17.00 | Nyle | WormFood, of course it doesn't |
| 17:17.19 | lontra | why do i keep getting this -> E: Build-dependencies for gnome-main-menu could not be satisfied. .... i have sid and testing sources |
| 17:17.20 | Nyle | I am the resident fglrx guy |
| 17:17.22 | Nyle | or they say |
| 17:17.28 | Nyle | whats the problem |
| 17:17.36 | Nyle | unless you want to save both our time and reinstall, which is fine too |
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| 17:18.00 | Nyle | lontra, apt-get build-dep gnome-main-menu |
| 17:18.04 | Nyle | lontra, try after that |
| 17:18.10 | curtmack | Okay, hypothetically suppose I meet every requirement listed on every website ever, and everything is configured correctly, yet no matter what amount of tinkering I try, the driver simply does not install |
| 17:18.21 | lontra | that's what i get when i issue that command |
| 17:18.24 | Nyle | curtmack, you install it how? |
| 17:18.33 | kasper | iirc, the unstable is dangerous, you might have to fix the toolchain |
| 17:18.34 | curtmack | the installer given on ati.com |
| 17:18.36 | WormFood | id that is the case curtmack, then I doubt reinstalling debian would help |
| 17:18.38 | Nyle | curtmack, because if you don't know how to install it, doesn't matter how many times you reinstall |
| 17:18.53 | Nyle | it aitn gonna work |
| 17:19.04 | Nyle | curtmack, don't use the install on ati.com |
| 17:19.06 | kasper | the unstable might screw you |
| 17:19.08 | Nyle | curtmack, here follow this |
| 17:19.33 | WormFood | unstable is not "dangerous" per se, it is just in active development |
| 17:19.38 | kasper | i don't think it's easy to fix the toolchain to a newbie |
| 17:19.42 | WormFood | and unstable may fix your problems |
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| 17:19.59 | WormFood | do not run unstable unless you are a linux geek, and willing to fix problems |
| 17:20.05 | curtmack | well I'm probably going to reinstall anyway because the hard drive was transfered to a new computer, so there are a bunch of issues its been having anyway |
| 17:20.19 | kasper | i am not a geek, just a newbie |
| 17:20.28 | \amethyst | curtmack: you can at least fix the ethernet card issue |
| 17:20.29 | hoxu | kasper, start with stable then |
| 17:20.29 | \amethyst | !z25 |
| 17:20.29 | dpkg | z25 is probably as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac> |
| 17:20.36 | \amethyst | curtmack: (if you haven't already) |
| 17:20.43 | curtmack | amethyst: doesn't have an ethernet card... |
| 17:20.46 | Nyle | curtmack, 1) download installer from ati. 2) run it with --listpkg and then chose the distro you have, and run it again with --buildpkg Debian/testing (or whatever). 3) it will generate some .deb packages. Install them, and then install module-assistant & m-a prepare & m-a a-i fglrx |
| 17:20.49 | \amethyst | curtmack: oh, well then :) |
| 17:20.54 | WormFood | goes to bed |
| 17:20.56 | kasper | i have been a newbie for a long long time |
| 17:20.58 | WormFood | see you all later |
| 17:21.11 | \amethyst | curtmack: I mentioned it because that's one of the most common problems encountered when moving a Debian install to another box |
| 17:22.11 | curtmack | Nyle: Okay, I'll remember that |
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| 17:22.23 | curtmack | my computer is upstairs and doesn't have internet though |
| 17:23.17 | curtmack | so I have to use my MP3 player to transport packages a lot |
| 17:23.21 | curtmack | it gets kinda old... |
| 17:24.08 | petemc | so run a wire, use wireless, or even try the powerline stuff |
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| 17:25.56 | xingu | rfc1149 |
| 17:26.18 | petemc | heh |
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| 17:26.32 | kasper | xingu: could you mention us what rfc1149 is? |
| 17:26.38 | xingu | jfgi |
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| 17:26.46 | kasper | ? |
| 17:27.08 | Monobi | just freakin google it? |
| 17:27.12 | Maulkin | kasper: go to www.google.com |
| 17:27.21 | Maulkin | Type in rfc1149 into the little box. |
| 17:27.29 | Monobi | In nicer terms :P |
| 17:27.39 | kasper | Maulkin: i have lots of links about rfc database |
| 17:27.39 | Maulkin | Magically, thanks to rfc1149, the thing will appear! |
| 17:28.09 | kasper | what will appear? |
| 17:28.18 | Bac9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.32 | Maulkin | Then. Use. Them. |
| 17:29.01 | Maulkin | Probably, a web page will appear. |
| 17:29.12 | Nyle | Bac9, /msg dpkg ask |
| 17:29.22 | Nyle | Maulkin, lol |
| 17:29.27 | Nyle | probably eh |
| 17:29.31 | Bac9 | Nyle: no |
| 17:29.39 | Nyle | !anyone |
| 17:29.40 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:29.56 | Nyle | !ask |
| 17:29.57 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 17:30.32 | Superbartt | is it a known problem that compiz from testing sometimes crashes and could take down the whole X server? |
| 17:30.50 | Maulkin | If it's known, it's in the BTS |
| 17:30.51 | Nyle | its possible |
| 17:31.01 | Superbartt | BTS? |
| 17:31.04 | Maulkin | !bts |
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| 17:31.04 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of sid and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for sid and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges . |
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| 17:31.19 | Superbartt | ah ok ^^ |
| 17:31.47 | Nyle | i think it was a super nintento game called super bart |
| 17:31.53 | Nyle | simpsons video game, right |
| 17:31.58 | Superbartt | lol ^^ |
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| 17:34.12 | Nyle | Maulkin, what are you working on these days mate? |
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| 17:35.07 | Nyle | Maulkin, how did that pdf stuff come through, you know the one with where you generated a virus signature from the 'infected' files etc. |
| 17:35.46 | Nyle | rahul, ping |
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| 17:35.56 | Maulkin | Nyle: dunno, didn't get a reply from you :) |
| 17:36.00 | Nyle | heh |
| 17:36.06 | Nyle | I told you man I'm too lazy for that shit |
| 17:36.11 | Nyle | :) |
| 17:36.50 | Nyle | i like software toys |
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| 17:36.59 | Nyle | they are fun, given you are not as lazy as I |
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| 17:38.49 | Nyle | Maulkin, I'm actually semi-officially working on the localization of the debian installer in my language |
| 17:39.21 | Maulkin | Stoner? |
| 17:39.25 | Nyle | Maulkin, I'm paranoid as hell, and bubulle wants my real name before he puts me in the translators list |
| 17:39.30 | Nyle | in fact I AM the list |
| 17:39.45 | Nyle | everyone else left, progress has been halted for several years |
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| 17:39.57 | Nyle | shit, I left, I stopp working on it 2 years ago |
| 17:40.00 | Nyle | I got lazy |
| 17:40.13 | Shadow_mil | Is there a debian cloak for debian users? |
| 17:40.19 | Nyle | I guess since for a while I have not advertised that I'm a stoner, I could give debian my real name |
| 17:40.39 | Nyle | the #debian-boot people don't know stoned from Nyle |
| 17:40.42 | Nyle | ;) |
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| 17:41.13 | Nyle | Shadow_mil, no |
| 17:41.20 | Shadow_mil | Nyle, :( |
| 17:41.23 | Nyle | but if you register your nickname |
| 17:41.26 | Nyle | you can get a free one |
| 17:41.40 | Nyle | go to #help or #freenode or something |
| 17:41.57 | Nyle | ask there, they will link you to a freenode page that explains how to reg nick and setup it |
| 17:42.08 | Nyle | then they will give you a cloak when you're done |
| 17:42.19 | Nyle | or you can always donate to frenode as active pdpc supporter |
| 17:42.44 | Nyle | you can afford $10/mo? |
| 17:43.06 | Nyle | 5? |
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| 17:43.11 | Nyle | 1?... |
| 17:43.21 | enouf | phigh dolla? |
| 17:43.21 | Nyle | .50? |
| 17:43.25 | Nyle | enouf, hi |
| 17:43.32 | enouf | hola |
| 17:43.33 | Shadow_mil | Nyle, I have a cloak |
| 17:43.39 | enouf | native tongue? |
| 17:43.44 | Shadow_mil | Nyle, but I am not part of silentflame anymore |
| 17:44.12 | enouf | silently flames Shadow_mil ' |
| 17:44.18 | enouf | there, better? |
| 17:44.31 | Nyle | enouf, Salam-u-alaikum(peace be upon you). Kaifa Haluk(how is your condition, iow "how are you") |
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| 17:44.46 | Nyle | arabic. |
| 17:45.03 | Nyle | but... I have been called spanish ocne, I kinda look hispanic |
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| 17:45.19 | enouf | ahh - i asked b/c i habg there in -boot sometimes and see bubbelle uploading many l10 related things ;-) |
| 17:45.38 | Nyle | oh heh |
| 17:46.02 | Nyle | yeh i should register my nick on oftc |
| 17:46.18 | Nyle | enouf, you're just white right? |
| 17:46.25 | Nyle | like a regular ol' white dude? |
| 17:46.28 | enouf | lmao |
| 17:46.35 | Nyle | you speak anything but American English? |
| 17:46.47 | Nyle | enouf, whats funny man :) |
| 17:46.56 | enouf | corn cobbed claun from moster truck rally-ville :-P |
| 17:47.02 | Nyle | hahahahaha |
| 17:47.14 | Nyle | awe is your neck red tinted? |
| 17:47.16 | Nyle | hahaha |
| 17:47.24 | Nyle | no seriously though, you speak any other languages? |
| 17:47.25 | enouf | yes - it is here too ;-) |
| 17:47.37 | enouf | Nyle: not fluently, though i should |
| 17:47.59 | Nyle | what is today? |
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| 17:48.02 | Nyle | oh sunday |
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| 17:48.09 | Nyle | cool |
| 17:48.09 | enouf | bingo ;-) |
| 17:48.12 | Maulkin | Aww, bless. One of the colonials. |
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| 17:48.23 | Maulkin | smiles sweetly |
| 17:48.55 | Nyle | hey you know what I think that was kinda funny now that look back at it |
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| 17:48.58 | xingu | Nyle: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24085625/ |
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| 17:49.04 | Nyle | 01:46 < Nyle> enouf, you're just white right? |
| 17:49.06 | Nyle | lol |
| 17:49.13 | enouf | haha |
| 17:49.18 | Nyle | I just .. meant.. like.. nevermind man |
| 17:49.18 | Nyle | lol |
| 17:49.26 | Nyle | is crackin up ... oh boy |
| 17:49.31 | Nyle | xingu, ok |
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| 17:50.26 | Nyle | A group of University of Iowa scientists is looking for marijuana smokers to help gain insight into the drug's effects. |
| 17:50.30 | Nyle | what a bunch of morons |
| 17:50.41 | BRAZIL_25 | hello |
| 17:50.43 | cahoot | they probably smoke |
| 17:50.44 | Nyle | all they need to do is to roll up a few phatties, get a few bongs and throw down |
| 17:50.47 | Nyle | BRAZIL_25, hi |
| 17:50.59 | Nyle | that would be insightful |
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| 17:51.36 | Nyle | man I have a very clean mind now that I have been sober for almost a month |
| 17:51.53 | BRAZIL_25 | hi nyle |
| 17:51.55 | Nyle | I can think clearly now, and remember where I put my keys |
| 17:52.07 | Nyle | BRAZIL_25, so how is the debian community in brazil? |
| 17:52.09 | BRAZIL_25 | your from city? |
| 17:52.18 | Nyle | BRAZIL_25, lot of debian users in brazil there? |
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| 17:52.58 | rafuch0 | debian comunitys are everywhere :D |
| 17:53.10 | Nyle | I found one in Lahore Pakistan! |
| 17:53.16 | enouf | Nyle: i'm actually of Itaian heritage, but i'm a 3rd generation .. and it used to mean something to have your children learn english, so they could go to college, etc ;-) (both my parents (can) speak dialects still, well one more than the other) |
| 17:53.35 | rafuch0 | i am from venezuela |
| 17:53.36 | enouf | er s/Itlian/Italian |
| 17:53.55 | BRAZIL_25 | speak portuguese? |
| 17:54.16 | rafuch0 | brigado? |
| 17:54.37 | rafuch0 | agora! ^^ |
| 17:54.59 | BRAZIL_25 | e ai rafuch0 |
| 17:55.19 | rafuch0 | garota :D |
| 17:55.21 | Nyle | enouf, I'm 3rd as well. My grandfather is from India, my grandmother is scottish, my father was born in pakistan, my mother is jordanian arab, I speak Hindi, Urdu, Punjabi, Arabic, English fluently, other local languages of indian/pakistan not so fluently but I can hold a conversation poorly. Pushtu, Sirayki, Gujrati, Balochi, Sindhi |
| 17:55.27 | Nyle | !br |
| 17:55.28 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 17:55.31 | Nyle | BRAZIL_25, ^^ |
| 17:55.57 | rafuch0 | fine fine is all good :) |
| 17:56.24 | BRAZIL_25 | your pics? nyle |
| 17:56.29 | Nyle | dude... |
| 17:56.30 | Nyle | what? |
| 17:56.46 | enouf | Nyle: your family got around i see ;-) |
| 17:57.07 | enouf | Nyle: it's actually way cool you can speak that many languages |
| 17:57.22 | Nyle | enouf, yup |
| 17:57.37 | Nyle | enouf, I've only lived in pakistan for 3 years of my life, from 17 to when I was 20 |
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| 17:57.48 | Nyle | UK and US is where I grew up |
| 17:57.53 | makmibad | hi ! |
| 17:57.55 | rafuch0 | pakistan |
| 17:57.57 | Nyle | still, I know the languages, amazing isn't it |
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| 17:58.07 | rafuch0 | dudee that is far awy |
| 17:58.15 | Nyle | im in usa |
| 17:58.20 | Nyle | if i dig a hole where I'm sitting |
| 17:58.22 | makmibad | I would like to start using debian how can I proceed ? |
| 17:58.28 | enouf | Nyle: for fear of turning #debian into myspace or someshit, let me ask one last question - has knowing those languages helped you when visiting ech of those corresponding geographic locations? or have you still yet to visit them all? |
| 17:58.29 | Nyle | and go all the way to the other side of the planet |
| 17:58.44 | Nyle | enouf, I've visited |
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| 17:58.54 | enouf | nice |
| 17:58.55 | Nyle | enouf, its really doesn't matter that much but it does later on |
| 17:59.09 | zamuro | rafuch0: trolling around in foreign languages? :P |
| 17:59.10 | Nyle | enouf, but what is cool is that you learn to think in many languages |
| 17:59.19 | Nyle | enouf, I still struggle with english as its not my first lanauge |
| 17:59.26 | rafuch0 | makmibad, go to debian.org and download an .iso of the system burned and that i all |
| 17:59.31 | Nyle | sure I grew up in the west, but my household still spoke native |
| 17:59.45 | makmibad | rafuch0: yes but there 3 dvd !!!??? |
| 17:59.47 | enouf | Nyle: me too, and it is my 1st lanaguage O_o |
| 17:59.52 | Nyle | enouf, it makes your brian sharper, you can express yourself more fully, verbally and physically |
| 17:59.53 | BRAZIL_25 | speak portuguese |
| 17:59.58 | rafuch0 | zamuro, you knowwww is all good :D |
| 18:00.15 | Nyle | enouf, you get to recognize how diff people and diff languages still have the common fundamentals of human communication |
| 18:00.20 | maligor | makmibad, you can use the netinst images also |
| 18:00.26 | maligor | makmibad, they should be a bit above 100 mb |
| 18:00.35 | Nyle | enouf, you notice diff betwee the way diff cultured women respond to which kind of stimuli |
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| 18:00.43 | rafuch0 | zamuro, you can find me also in debian-fr and ubuntu-fr :) |
| 18:00.50 | Nyle | everything is great man, its awesome to go to another country and learn a diff language and diff people |
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| 18:00.54 | Nyle | its a real eye opener |
| 18:00.56 | enouf | Nyle: now you're talking :-) |
| 18:00.56 | Nyle | im one rambling now |
| 18:01.01 | Nyle | done* |
| 18:01.03 | makmibad | maligor: but are there a simple DVD which only contains main packages ? |
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| 18:01.18 | SamuraiDio | hi |
| 18:01.34 | SamuraiDio | how do i include ~/bin to PATH? |
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| 18:01.41 | rafuch0 | makmibad, you can just download the netisntall and go from there |
| 18:01.50 | maligor | makmibad, debian doesn't fit |
| 18:01.51 | enouf | SamuraiDio: see ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc |
| 18:01.53 | rafuch0 | makmibad, is no difficult try it |
| 18:02.09 | makmibad | rafuch0: ok thks a lot !! |
| 18:02.12 | makmibad | all ! |
| 18:02.16 | rafuch0 | np bro |
| 18:02.21 | enouf | SamuraiDio: just uncomment the relevant line |
| 18:02.25 | enouf | lines(s) |
| 18:02.26 | maligor | might be able to install debian with the first dvd too, never tried tho |
| 18:02.50 | enouf | ofcourse |
| 18:02.52 | maligor | always used the netinstall images |
| 18:03.19 | enouf | just more software available oh the optical media the larger it is |
| 18:03.24 | enouf | s/oh/on |
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| 18:03.49 | maligor | they also don't make much sense if you intend to use testing or unstable |
| 18:03.59 | Nyle | if you have fast internet |
| 18:04.06 | Nyle | and stable connection all the time |
| 18:04.11 | Nyle | you don't need a dvd or iso really |
| 18:04.20 | Nyle | netinst is the way to go, minimal netinst like netboot kernel/initrd |
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| 18:04.23 | Nyle | not even the iso |
| 18:04.27 | enouf | makmibad: each/all debian installer will ask you whether you desire also contrib and non-free repos in your sources.list |
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| 18:04.52 | Nyle | enouf, with debian_priority=high? |
| 18:04.58 | Nyle | think again |
| 18:05.01 | enouf | Nyle: it should be default |
| 18:05.04 | Nyle | unless that behavrious changed |
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| 18:05.17 | maxigas | i have a laptop (g3 clamshell key lime). i installed etch without problems. but when i try to dist-upgrade to lenny it brakes at tzdata with segmentation fault. |
| 18:05.20 | maxigas | any tips? |
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| 18:05.31 | enouf | Nyle: if it's not, someone better get to editing the DFSGs ;-) |
| 18:06.13 | Nyle | enouf, afaicr you must chose a priority lower than "high" in order to see the prompts for that |
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| 18:06.24 | Nyle | or maybe I was very high at that time I can't recall |
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| 18:06.31 | Nyle | but I've installed debian a few hundred times at least |
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| 18:06.42 | Nyle | I don't recall it unless you did specify a lower priority |
| 18:06.46 | BRAZIL_25 | nyle You have photos its? |
| 18:07.06 | Nyle | BRAZIL_25, if you are not a hot chic that lives in new york city, don't bother |
| 18:07.35 | Nyle | i don't care if your a chic, still, even hot, but if you are not in my city, how does that help me to look at you or you to look at me |
| 18:07.41 | Nyle | don't ask people for thier pics man |
| 18:07.43 | Nyle | what the hell |
| 18:07.50 | Nyle | almost freaks out |
| 18:08.58 | enouf | Nyle: (here's a little embarrassing tale), up above i wrote of italian heritage, i had to use heritage there b/c i forgot offhand if 'decent', or 'descent' is correct spelling there :-P .. and i'm too lazy to look it up :-) |
| 18:09.13 | Nyle | decent is nice |
| 18:09.17 | Nyle | descent is down |
| 18:09.22 | Nyle | so latter means heritage |
| 18:09.31 | Nyle | handed down, down, spiraling downward etc. |
| 18:09.56 | Nyle | very easy to remember, nice guys don't have much, decent is nice, add an s, and its too much, and you get heavy and fall down |
| 18:09.57 | enouf | i know, like desert and dessert ;-) |
| 18:09.59 | Nyle | descent |
| 18:10.13 | Nyle | we as kids used to make up little things to remember these things by |
| 18:10.13 | enouf | but it was too late, i remembered afterwards |
| 18:10.21 | Nyle | visual clues sounds music etc. etc. |
| 18:10.31 | BRAZIL_25 | It would like to know women? |
| 18:10.32 | BRAZIL_25 | It would like to know women? |
| 18:10.33 | BRAZIL_25 | It would like to know women? |
| 18:10.35 | BRAZIL_25 | It would like to know women? |
| 18:10.37 | BRAZIL_25 | It would like to know women? |
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| 18:10.39 | BRAZIL_25 | It would like to know women? |
| 18:10.40 | Nyle | oh god |
| 18:10.41 | BRAZIL_25 | It would like to know women? |
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| 18:10.52 | Nyle | BRAZIL_25, that is not appropriate behaviour |
| 18:11.03 | Nyle | BRAZIL_25, please kindly don't do that again |
| 18:11.03 | enouf | when you stop using things, and your brain gets older, it kind of files those things in lost+found, and there's no alphabetizing ;-) |
| 18:11.14 | zamuro | Can anyone take care of this lil fella? |
| 18:11.23 | Nyle | zamuro, he has stopped |
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| 18:11.39 | zamuro | Nyle: Hope he will. |
| 18:11.57 | zamuro | Well... there's ignores after all :P |
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| 18:12.04 | Nyle | yes there are |
| 18:12.04 | zamuro | ignore** |
| 18:12.29 | zamuro | Gee... I'm spelling like a champion today :P |
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| 18:12.30 | maxigas | i have a laptop (g3 clamshell key lime). i installed etch without |
| 18:12.30 | maxigas | problems. but when i try to dist-upgrade to lenny it brakes at |
| 18:12.30 | maxigas | tzdata with segmentation fault. |
| 18:12.37 | maxigas | can anyone help with this? |
| 18:12.50 | Nyle | g3? ppc |
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| 18:12.53 | BRAZIL_25 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.58 | zamuro | Anyway... |
| 18:13.03 | maxigas | yes it's with pcc |
| 18:13.04 | Sero | Au! I have a major problem, my system just went full -- 50Gb of data created somewhere in no time, how can I find the file causing this? |
| 18:13.16 | Nyle | !tell BRAZIL_25 -about guidelines |
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| 18:13.32 | Nyle | !tell maxigas -about ppc |
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| 18:13.42 | enouf | Sero: possibly some DVD/CD updating it's log software - but that's a wine / windows thing |
| 18:13.49 | zamuro | I tried installing lenny from netinstall last week, but seems like pata_via module is not included on the image... Any alternative to that? |
| 18:13.55 | kanzure | Are there any online sources to the apt family of software packages? |
| 18:14.03 | jllitvay | ae |
| 18:14.21 | Nyle | via chipsets of all sorts are supported afaik |
| 18:14.24 | kanzure | dpkg: apt |
| 18:14.25 | dpkg | apt is, like, Advanced Packaging Tool, a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, most notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude. see also <apt-get> <apt-cache> |
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| 18:14.27 | enouf | Sero: i've seen a nasty bug from one of those (like maybe Asus CD/DVD drive's software or someshit) about that, google it |
| 18:14.29 | kanzure | dpkg: apt sources |
| 18:14.30 | dpkg | apt sources is, like, a list of unofficial sources for apt. The URL is http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/apt-sources/ |
| 18:14.33 | Nyle | I could be wrong, but almost all pata controllers by via are supported |
| 18:14.35 | kanzure | Argh. |
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| 18:14.38 | Sero | I'm du -h'ing my log dir and the last entry sais 62G . -- but I can't find a that big logfile anywhere |
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| 18:14.46 | Nyle | zamuro, which controller is it |
| 18:14.49 | zamuro | Nyle: They should. I neved had problems with via chipsets before. |
| 18:14.51 | Nyle | specifically |
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| 18:15.29 | enouf | maxigas: did you read the release notes/changelogs as mentioned in the etch->lenny factoid? hrm |
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| 18:15.58 | Nyle | I sill have sarge/testing on my powerbook 3400c |
| 18:15.59 | Nyle | :D |
| 18:16.02 | maxigas | enouf: no. where are they? i don't understand "factoid" |
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| 18:16.09 | Nyle | !dpkgbot |
| 18:16.09 | dpkg | well, dpkgbot is Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. |
| 18:16.28 | Nyle | maxigas, ^^ |
| 18:16.43 | zamuro | Nyle: Didn't have time to figure that out. I've installed arch, and worked at first shot. So i left it that way. Maybe i'll check tomorrow and let you all know. What i did check was that module pata_via was loaded and wasn't on lenny netinstall cd. |
| 18:16.48 | maxigas | ok i check it. |
| 18:17.11 | enouf | zamuro: kmuto images is an option, or you can try booting with "generic.all_generic_ide=1" as boot option |
| 18:17.12 | Nyle | !factoid |
| 18:17.12 | dpkg | [factoid] something resembling a fact or unverified (often invented) information that is given credibility because it appeared in print or a brief (usually one sentence and usually trivial) news item, or often-repeated info, stored to keep people from having to repeatedly explain something This thing you're reading right now is called a "factoid". |
| 18:17.16 | Nyle | maxigas, ^^ |
| 18:17.19 | Mazingaro | opening OBEX file transfer for a connected device gave me only question mark icons for directories |
| 18:17.19 | Sero | Wow, seems to be MySQL -- I have dozens of 101Mb logfiles in the mysql directory -- can I just delete them? |
| 18:17.25 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 18:17.27 | Mazingaro | please helpe |
| 18:17.29 | Mazingaro | opening OBEX file transfer for a connected device gave me only question mark icons for directories |
| 18:17.33 | enouf | maxigas: it's in the /topic |
| 18:17.34 | Nyle | !repeat |
| 18:17.34 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:17.37 | zamuro | enouf: Does that work on sata drives? |
| 18:17.44 | enouf | zamuro: not sure |
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| 18:17.57 | zamuro | I'll give it a shot tomorrow and let you know. |
| 18:18.10 | Nyle | OW! |
| 18:18.16 | Nyle | bit my tung |
| 18:18.39 | Nyle | ok ok, not gonna cry |
| 18:18.52 | Nyle | ow goddamit it hurts |
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| 18:19.40 | SamuraiDio | enouf, but it works only on terminal, may i need to re-login on an X session? or can i make it another way? |
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| 18:19.48 | Nyle | oh man, I've been eating for 27 years, by now you'd think I got chewing down to a T right, but no, still make mistakes |
| 18:20.07 | enouf | zamuro: likely not, but you never know - if the module isn't there/present in the image, not much you can do about it, except perhaps something like this, http://lackof.org/taggart/hacking/d-i-tricks/ -- or put the drive on a diff sata controller if you have one (or enable AHCI in BIOS) |
| 18:20.20 | Nyle | well time for moi to go fix some coputers |
| 18:20.23 | Nyle | make that dough |
| 18:20.35 | Nyle | peace! |
| 18:20.46 | enouf | zamuro: one specific kmuto image (.23) page info http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2623-etch.htm |
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| 18:21.39 | enouf | SamuraiDio: you can try "source ~/.bash{_profile,rc}" or you need to login again |
| 18:21.44 | zamuro | enouf: I actually thought on using a flashdrive, since that box got no floppy... |
| 18:22.02 | enouf | zamuro: lots of choices |
| 18:22.23 | zamuro | I'll take a read about that. Thanks, dude. |
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| 18:22.40 | enouf | np |
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| 18:22.53 | defunct | heya, is there an easy way to kill off defunct processes? I've got about 4,000 |
| 18:23.05 | ma3x | i dont undestand the syntax of lftp, can anyone help me - to local sync it's mirror. what about remote sync? |
| 18:23.05 | SamuraiDio | enouf, tnx |
| 18:23.13 | ma3x | ie. to sync files from local to remote |
| 18:23.48 | balzac5000 | Gang: I'm upgrading from sarge to etch and the etch kernel seems to be having a hard time with my Adaptec SCSI card module. I've watched depmod run when installing the new kernel - am I missing something? |
| 18:24.10 | enouf | np |
| 18:26.22 | enouf | balzac5000: hrm, have you looked about for info on wiki.debian,org, or debian-boot mailing list achives? "/msg dpkg dbse" to learn about some diffs between the two and "/msg dpkg sarge->etch" |
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| 18:27.38 | ma3x | how do you sync files from local to remote? |
| 18:27.40 | balzac5000 | enouf: thanks for the response! I hit Google pretty hard and those sites popped up intermittently. What's odd is that the box boots 2.6.8-4 just fine. It seems to be when udev enters the picture that there's problems |
| 18:28.11 | enouf | balzac5000: sure, i can see that being an issue .. i know nothing offhand about it though |
| 18:28.26 | balzac5000 | I've reinstalled udev and made SURE hotplug is all gone. |
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| 18:29.42 | enouf | balzac5000: do you know if "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-ETCH-VERSION" is being run? if not, i suggest you try running it, if you can |
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| 18:31.08 | balzac5000 | Good call, and done. I've even used backports for an newer kernel version (linux-image-2.6.22-4-686-bigmem) and made suer to dpkg-reconfigure it. It either freezes on boot or gets in a boot loop. |
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| 18:32.17 | enouf | hrm .. i recall reading about AIC7xxx changes or whatever it is, but i never followed up on what those are exactly |
| 18:32.50 | balzac5000 | When one activates boot.log does it only write a file if the boot completes? |
| 18:33.41 | enouf | balzac5000: well, it starts early, but stops only just before the login stage, so .. |
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| 18:35.33 | enouf | balzac5000: yep, just before i see Debian GNU/Linux in tty from startup on tty1, i see Stopping boot logger: bootlog |
| 18:35.37 | peterius | why would I have a /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info but no /proc/acpi/info, what creates the latter? |
| 18:35.48 | enouf | balzac5000: you could hook up a serial console |
| 18:35.55 | balzac5000 | Hmm. Makes a certain amount of sense, but also makes it difficult to capture the errors. |
| 18:36.10 | balzac5000 | Yeah, that's true... |
| 18:36.49 | enouf | balzac5000: http://en.opensuse.org/Serial_Null_Modem_Connection (thanks to xand for that and to taggart earlier) |
| 18:36.54 | enouf | whoops |
| 18:37.11 | enouf | balzac5000: i mean; http://xand.co.uk/debianSerialConsole.php |
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| 18:38.07 | balzac5000 | enouf: thanks for the reference - I hope I won't have to get that hard core. I already updated the BIOS on this board hoping that was it, but no joy |
| 18:38.15 | enouf | i guess the "console=ttyS0,9600" could als be "console=ttyS0,9600,n,8" |
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| 18:39.11 | markybob | anyone else having problems with alt+tab not working anymore in sid? |
| 18:39.13 | enouf | ok, well, hopefully one of those roads mentioned leads to a resolution ;-) |
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| 18:39.50 | enouf | markybob: firefox? xterm?, console? all of the above? |
| 18:39.59 | markybob | x. all apps in x |
| 18:40.30 | enouf | peterius: b/c it's being removed or has been replaced via /sys equivs |
| 18:40.53 | enouf | peterius: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.24/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt |
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| 18:41.50 | torrrr | I have two nics in my machine, and one is 1gbps, but for some reason all the traffic goes through the 10mbps |
| 18:42.08 | lastnode | torrrr: man route |
| 18:42.10 | enouf | peterius: (unless ofcourse, you tell your kernel you want those options enabled (/proc/acpi/ entries) still, during compile time) |
| 18:42.23 | peterius | enouf: what's the option for that? |
| 18:42.38 | peterius | enouf: I don' tthink it matters, I've decided to edit the battery applet that isn't working to ignore that missing file |
| 18:43.02 | enouf | peterius: there's one or more, look under the relevant areas, find the ones that say (deprecated) or similar - read the ? about each |
| 18:43.05 | markybob | lastnode something like `route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth1` |
| 18:43.18 | lastnode | markybob: you need to tell torrrr that :) |
| 18:43.22 | lastnode | torrrr: see what markybob just said |
| 18:43.29 | markybob | oops |
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| 18:43.57 | enouf | torrrr: use ethtool <iface> to see what's up with each iface |
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| 18:43.57 | torrrr | I see |
| 18:44.07 | enouf | oh |
| 18:44.26 | stew | torrrr: are both nics on the same subnet? |
| 18:44.38 | torrrr | stew : yes |
| 18:45.42 | torrrr | route looks the same for both |
| 18:45.59 | stew | torrrr: then your options are to setup your default route so that all traffic goes out on one or the other, or you could bond two so that traffic is split between them |
| 18:47.01 | enouf | torrrr: so you have (1) 10mbps NIC and (1) gigE NIC? no 10/100-BaseT nics? |
| 18:47.27 | torrrr | stew: each has a different IP address, cant that decide how traffic is chosen? |
| 18:47.36 | enouf | (that would be quite odd) |
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| 18:47.58 | torrrr | enouf, the 1gbps can do 10/100 |
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| 18:48.17 | enouf | sure, it should be capable of 10/100/1000 |
| 18:48.18 | stew | torrrr: possibly by adding a second routing table and using 'ip rule..." to select a routing table based on source address |
| 18:48.47 | stew | torrrr: lartc.org is the place to read about setting up multiple routing tables |
| 18:49.14 | smacnay | For the totem media player, which back-end is recommended - xine or gstreamer? |
| 18:49.35 | torrrr | my original problem was a Marvel Yukon, so I added a 10mbps, now I compiled the marvel drivers, and want to test the 1gbps, but all traffic goes through the 10mbps |
| 18:49.47 | enouf | 10/100 PCI NICs can be had for 5-10$ USD sometimes, oh nm |
| 18:50.32 | torrrr | ok , thanks, I will read a bit. |
| 18:50.44 | torrrr | at least now I know why I get only 10mbps |
| 18:50.57 | enouf | smacnay: i hear gstreamer is quite powerful and versatile, but i'm partial to xin and never used gstreamer, nor totem |
| 18:51.25 | smacnay | enouf, thanks - I am maybe going to play with both |
| 18:51.35 | enouf | smacnay: take a look over this; http://wiki.transmission.cc/index.php/FOSS_Codecs_For_Online_Video:_Usability_Uptake_and_Development_1.2 |
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| 18:59.42 | quentusrex | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.50 | torrrr | stew, which package is 'ip'? |
| 18:59.50 | quentusrex | I'm using openvpn |
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| 19:01.17 | simonrvn | !tell torrrr -about search |
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| 19:03.10 | torrrr | simonrvn, in this case there are too many results |
| 19:03.42 | simonrvn | do "bin/ip" or something; ask dpkg for it |
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| 19:09.57 | black_13 | how do install vmware workstation 6.0 on debian etch/lenny? |
| 19:10.38 | markybob | black_13 download the tarball and run the installer |
| 19:10.55 | vins | hi, I'm trying to install my laptop microphone but it doesn't work. With alsamixer, my sound level is ok... Do you have an idea ? |
| 19:11.06 | black_13 | markybob, which tarball? |
| 19:11.33 | black_13 | i actually have the setup tarball |
| 19:11.34 | Eulex | !vmware |
| 19:11.34 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported. Ask me about <vmware support> and <vmware-package>. |
| 19:11.43 | Eulex | !vmware-package |
| 19:11.43 | dpkg | vmware-package is a Debian <contrib> package - available for lenny and sid - which provides a 'make-vmpkg' utility. This utility can create Debian packages of various VMware products and related software. See also <vmware support>. |
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| 19:13.18 | vins | no idea for my micro ? :) |
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| 19:18.44 | nufun | hi, anyone who can help me to understand if my network card is broken? |
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| 19:20.12 | md70 | nufun i guess not until you give some details of the prob |
| 19:20.15 | simonrvn | torrrr: did you find it? |
| 19:20.21 | mbroeker | nufun, is lspci able to find the card, is the proper module loaded? |
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| 19:20.39 | torrrr | simonrvn, yes |
| 19:20.55 | simonrvn | torrrr: cool |
| 19:21.00 | nufun | md70, the real problem is that it has been working fine till yesterday... |
| 19:21.08 | vins | please someone to help me to configure a microphone a my lenny, I would like to play some guitar :)) |
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| 19:22.10 | vins | if the sound level is ok where can be the mute problem ? |
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| 19:22.11 | nufun | today when I tried to connect I could not get an IP address |
| 19:22.26 | nufun | even trying to setting a static one.. |
| 19:22.33 | simonrvn | vins: alsamixer |
| 19:22.38 | torrrr | simonrvn, Thanks. I used synaptic , and it is in iproute. I was confused because the document I read mention iproute2 which I didn't find, but in the comments of iproute it was written that it is also called iproute2 |
| 19:22.40 | cahoot | vins: this might be of use: http://home.cfl.rr.com/infofiles/record.html |
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| 19:22.54 | vins | all is ok in alsamixer |
| 19:22.55 | Eulex | vins, if you have the right channels unmuted and the volume turned up, I do assume that you have a driver problem. |
| 19:23.15 | vins | ok |
| 19:23.32 | vins | how can I know if my micro is well installed ? |
| 19:23.32 | Eulex | or that the program that is supposed to do the recording isn't setup correctly. |
| 19:24.09 | vins | I've tried with two programs so I think this isn't a program bug |
| 19:24.12 | md70 | nufun but do you have another box to try connecting and see if a static IP config works? |
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| 19:24.44 | nufun | of course.. I tried to connect it to the computer I'm using now.. |
| 19:25.13 | nufun | but the strange thing is that I cannot see any activity... leds are all turned off.. |
| 19:25.34 | dclarke | is there a way to install the Mozilla or SeaMonkey browser ? When I try to run the linux installed it give me a nasty error : error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:25.48 | dclarke | sorry .. that should say "linux installer" |
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| 19:26.08 | md70 | nufun, try switching off the box, removing the card with care for static charges, wait 5 mins, reinsert. |
| 19:26.08 | HardDisk_WP | hi all |
| 19:26.18 | markybob | dclarke apt-get install iceweasel |
| 19:26.30 | Talemon | does debian support tablet pcs? can i use my tablet laptop with intuo screen with debian? |
| 19:26.32 | HardDisk_WP | i need some command to write a text to a serial device via ttyUSBS0, with a given baud-rate |
| 19:26.33 | nufun | I even tried to change slot.. but nothing happened.. |
| 19:26.34 | dclarke | iceweasel ... is not seamonkey |
| 19:26.35 | \amethyst | dclarke: it's much easier to use iceweasel (Debian's firefox) or iceape (Debian's seamonkey) |
| 19:26.38 | mbroeker | vins, try this: arecord -f cd -d 10 test.wav && mplayer test.wav |
| 19:26.39 | HardDisk_WP | how do I control the baudrate |
| 19:26.44 | dclarke | or .. is it .. |
| 19:26.51 | craigevil | dclarke: apt-get install iceape |
| 19:26.52 | dclarke | I guess that is what it is .. mmmkay |
| 19:26.58 | md70 | nufun, have you tried another box? |
| 19:27.02 | craigevil | iceweasel is firefox, iceape is seamonkey |
| 19:27.05 | dclarke | and how does one get the latest Java pl;ugins for that ? |
| 19:27.17 | dclarke | and how does one get the latest Java plugins for that ? |
| 19:27.32 | vins | ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0' |
| 19:27.32 | vins | ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 19:27.32 | vins | ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings |
| 19:27.32 | vins | ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
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| 19:27.42 | dclarke | because the Java JRE/JDK plugins seems to be for Mozilla nad SeaMonkey but not something called iceweasel |
| 19:27.43 | \amethyst | dclarke: apt-get install sun-java5-plugin |
| 19:27.53 | craigevil | dclarke: apt-get update && apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin [or -jdk, for dev-work] ; then do: update-alternatives --config java |
| 19:27.53 | \amethyst | dclarke: (from non-free) |
| 19:28.07 | \amethyst | dclarke: or if you need java6, you can get sun-java6-plugin from backports |
| 19:28.25 | nufun | md70, I have just another box but it craps.. |
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| 19:28.32 | dclarke | what I *need* is the latest JDK/JRE which is a production release .. |
| 19:28.41 | vins | sorry for that |
| 19:28.46 | nufun | md70, do yo think it's enought to check if it works? |
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| 19:29.14 | md70 | nufun, i'd consider it dead, if that's what you mean |
| 19:30.45 | dclarke | I'll go look at JDK 6 Update 5 and see if that can be used as a plugin for ice rat or whatever its called |
| 19:31.11 | craigevil | dclarke: yes you can always install it from Sun's site |
| 19:31.11 | nufun | md70, I think so.. but what i really don't understand is why leds turn them on when I press the power button.. |
| 19:31.31 | markybob | dclarke iceweasel is the same thing as firefox. any plugin that works for it will work in iceweasel |
| 19:31.31 | dclarke | craigevil: yeah .. they have an rpm for Linux x64 Platform - Java SE Development Kit 6 Update 5 |
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| 19:31.41 | dclarke | but be damned if I know what to do with an rpm |
| 19:31.50 | craigevil | dclarke: it should be in backports as well |
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| 19:32.17 | dclarke | craigevil: sorry .. I don't know what "should be in backports" means |
| 19:32.19 | \amethyst | dclarke: you have an amd64 install? |
| 19:32.28 | md70 | and they turn off before or after init scripts start loading? |
| 19:32.28 | mbroeker | vins, try a .asoundrc file: http://rafb.net/p/lFVtGd90.html |
| 19:32.42 | dclarke | mercury:~# cat /proc/version |
| 19:32.43 | dclarke | Linux version 2.6.18-6-amd64 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch1) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 17:50:19 UTC 2008 |
| 19:32.50 | vins | mbroeker, your command works but hen no sound is registrerd |
| 19:32.59 | md70 | init scripts are those funny text things debian insists on showing after the boot loader |
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| 19:33.19 | vins | it's ok I've made another alsaconf which fix the problem |
| 19:33.48 | vins | but when I listen to the .wav there is no sound :( |
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| 19:34.25 | nufun | md70, I know.. I was checking.. |
| 19:34.28 | black_13 | markybob, will the vmware-server allow me to run xorg in the guest os |
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| 19:34.31 | admin_ | Hey guys, I'm trying to load a game disk (specifically GTA:Vice City, then emulator under wine), but if I put the disk in the drive, it'll spin for a bit, but nothng ever comes up. I tried other disks, and they're mounted and shown. Any idea? |
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| 19:35.27 | cr3 | if I want to specify a proxy for apt, what priority should I give it under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d? |
| 19:36.07 | nufun | md70, no.. it seems like there is no activity even while booting.. could it be a bios setting? |
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| 19:37.04 | md70 | nufun strange that the bios started rejecting the card on one box and doesnt like it in another |
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| 19:38.10 | Talemon | asking again: does debian support tablet pcs? can i use my tablet laptop with intuo screen with debian? |
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| 19:38.45 | nufun | md70, no sorry.. I still didn't change box.. I was trying to see if there was even a small life sign... today there was before init script, but it seems now there is nothing.. |
| 19:38.55 | vins | audacity detect seems to detect my micro, it's written ALSA : HDA Intel: AD198x Analog (hw:0,0) |
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| 19:39.00 | nufun | md70, so I think it's dead.. |
| 19:39.06 | dvs | jim |
| 19:39.30 | md70 | nufun requiescat in pacem, ping. |
| 19:39.40 | vins | but I can't register nothing |
| 19:39.42 | nufun | md70, amen.. |
| 19:39.58 | md70 | nufun but try it in another box if you didn't |
| 19:40.14 | nufun | md70, I'll do it now.. |
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| 19:41.10 | \amethyst | dclarke: ah, http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695 seems to indicate that there isn' |
| 19:41.28 | \amethyst | dclarke: ah, http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695 seems to indicate that there isn't a Java plugin for 64-bit linux |
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| 19:42.00 | vins | thanks for help I must go :) |
| 19:42.00 | dclarke | oh hell |
| 19:42.04 | dclarke | that can not be right |
| 19:42.07 | markybob | !nspluginwrapper |
| 19:42.08 | dpkg | nspluginwrapper is, like, a wrapper allowing you to use 32-bit browser plugins in a native x86_64 browser. It is known to work with <Adobe Flash> and a few others. Debian packages are in the <contrib> archive for lenny and later; ask me about <backports.org> for etch packages. |
| 19:42.09 | dclarke | it says : Submit Date 14-JAN-2003 |
| 19:42.15 | dvs | oops |
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| 19:42.26 | \amethyst | dclarke: it also says "This RFE has fianaly been comitted to the dolphin (JDK 1.7) release" |
| 19:42.29 | HardDisk_WP | how do I manipulate the baudrate of a ttySX via commandline? |
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| 19:42.39 | dclarke | it does doesn't it ? |
| 19:42.43 | cahoot | setserial? |
| 19:42.48 | \amethyst | dclarke: oh |
| 19:42.48 | HardDisk_WP | tries |
| 19:42.56 | lilkid | if i install a program- e.g. thunderbird with apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird , where would it be installed to- like, how do i actually run it? |
| 19:43.03 | \amethyst | dclarke: We have not only commit this RFE to JRE 7, but also JRE 6 update release. The date for JRE 6 update release which has this 64bit JRE support will be early 2009. |
| 19:43.09 | dclarke | I mean .. how the heck can Sun run around yakking up 64-bit and 64-bit that and have no 64-bit stuff for Linux on Debian ? |
| 19:43.14 | dclarke | smacks head |
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| 19:43.39 | \amethyst | dclarke: they have 64-bit java, just not a plugin |
| 19:43.40 | dvs | smacks dclarke |
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| 19:43.58 | \amethyst | dclarke: you can use nspluginwrapper with the 32-bit version of Java, if you can get that installed |
| 19:44.01 | dclarke | yeah well .. that was what I meant |
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| 19:44.08 | dclarke | but 32-bit should work here |
| 19:44.13 | dclarke | or at least .. it better |
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| 19:44.51 | markybob | apt it smart. it installs via nspluginwrapper automagically |
| 19:44.52 | apt | So we want to be stupid, right, smart. it installs via nspluginwrapper automagically ? Fine, pushups, right now. OK, side straddle hops, right now. OK, run in place, right now. I didn't say stop! |
| 19:45.07 | markybob | oops :P |
| 19:45.19 | dvs | apt is dumb! |
| 19:45.22 | nufun | md70, dead... absolutly and defenitly dead... :-( |
| 19:45.34 | md70 | sorry |
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| 19:45.42 | enouf | apt: you should get out more often dearie ;-) |
| 19:46.00 | dclarke | so confused ... and sligtly dizzy |
| 19:46.02 | HardDisk_WP | cahoot, doesn't work |
| 19:46.08 | enouf | !doesn't work |
| 19:46.09 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 19:46.12 | HardDisk_WP | the ttyUSB0 is a prolific adapter |
| 19:46.15 | nufun | don't worry.. life goes one.. :-) |
| 19:46.18 | HardDisk_WP | MyNameIsSLUG:/tmp# setserial /dev/ttyUSB0 baud_base 2400 |
| 19:46.19 | HardDisk_WP | Cannot get serial info: Invalid argument |
| 19:46.20 | nufun | on |
| 19:46.42 | \amethyst | dclarke: Debian has (in sid, and in etch backports) ia32-sun-java6-bin (32-bit Java 6 for 64-bit debian), but it doesn't seem to have the plugin. You might be able to do something with that package and the 32-bit plugin .so (extracted manually from the 32-bit Debian package or something) |
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| 19:46.49 | enouf | that's not ttySX, lmao |
| 19:46.53 | \amethyst | dclarke: (and nspluginwrapper, of course0 |
| 19:46.54 | md70 | one life goes :) |
| 19:47.06 | HardDisk_WP | enouf, so no hope for the USB-to-serial thing? |
| 19:47.20 | enouf | no idea offhand, i'm sure there's something |
| 19:47.21 | \amethyst | dclarke: Adobe and Sun, like many commercial software vendors, seem to have problems supporting new architectures :) |
| 19:47.34 | nufun | md70, thanks a lot! see you! |
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| 19:47.37 | md70 | 32 bits should be enough for anybody. |
| 19:47.55 | md70 | welcome :) |
| 19:47.58 | enouf | stty < /dev/ttyUSB0 9600 .. oh nm (ignore me) |
| 19:47.59 | Eulex | so should 8 bits |
| 19:48.21 | enouf | hurls 640K of tuna upon md70 |
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| 19:48.39 | enouf | ;-) |
| 19:48.47 | Doug52392 | Hi |
| 19:48.52 | md70 | HEH |
| 19:48.56 | HardDisk_WP | enouf, heh, that works |
| 19:48.58 | HardDisk_WP | thanks |
| 19:49.06 | Doug52392 | What's the best IDE to program in C++? |
| 19:49.12 | enouf | heh |
| 19:49.37 | dvs | xxgdb? |
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| 19:50.14 | phorce1 | buying my first XT class machine -- salesman "You want a WHOLE MEG of RAM in it? You know it can only use 640K and even that is way overkill, right?" |
| 19:50.25 | dvs | heh |
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| 19:51.02 | enouf | takes phorce1 to navarone for holiday ;-) |
| 19:51.06 | phorce1 | hmmm 27 help packages in Lenny. and /me doesn't feel adventurous today. |
| 19:51.22 | phorce1 | err s/help/held/ |
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| 19:52.16 | robboplus | hm is there such thing as 2>> ? |
| 19:52.21 | enouf | phorce1: weren't you and i discussing telephone poles are pilings (for a structure of some sort) way back when? |
| 19:52.28 | TCossuto | whats that command where you link a program to a dummy file? |
| 19:52.28 | enouf | s/are/for |
| 19:52.39 | TCossuto | like making command 'shit' use 'unrar' |
| 19:52.42 | enouf | how the heck did 'are' get in there, lmao |
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| 19:53.00 | phorce1 | enouf: yes. But that project got way sidetracked. You logged in to offtopic? |
| 19:53.00 | enouf | TCossuto: help alias |
| 19:53.13 | enouf | phorce1: oh, forgot, now i will ;-) |
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| 19:53.46 | md70 | robboplus, try it with a command that is sure to send stuff to stderr |
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| 19:54.45 | TCossuto | huh alias? isn't there also symlink? |
| 19:54.47 | TCossuto | or somethin like that |
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| 19:55.26 | \amethyst | TCossuto: you could do it with something like ln -s /usr/bin/unrar /usr/local/bin/shit |
| 19:55.26 | markybob | TCossuto yes. ln -s unrar shit |
| 19:55.28 | V4Nelle | guys if a compile a kernel 2.6.22 i must download and kernel-headers pron synaptic? |
| 19:55.30 | V4Nelle | from* |
| 19:55.54 | TCossuto | thanks! |
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| 19:56.19 | markybob | V4Nelle `make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers` will compile your kernel and make image and headers files for you to install |
| 19:57.20 | V4Nelle | and will cover the old headers? |
| 19:57.40 | markybob | i have no idea what you mean |
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| 19:58.01 | V4Nelle | i must remove old headers before install the new or not? |
| 19:58.08 | markybob | no |
| 19:58.21 | V4Nelle | ok markybob ....thx |
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| 20:00.08 | adv | which is a nagios alternative? |
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| 20:01.17 | markybob | adv http://www.opennms.org/index.php/Main_Page |
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| 20:02.24 | asg | adv: Zenoss, Hyperic-HQ, monin |
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| 20:02.49 | ColdBeer | hi |
| 20:02.56 | ColdBeer | is anyone alive in hear? |
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| 20:03.46 | V4Nelle | ColdBeer, everybody is alive.... :p |
| 20:03.49 | asg | ColdBeer: no, we are all dead |
| 20:04.02 | V4Nelle | asg really? :p |
| 20:04.05 | markybob | ...are cylons considered alive? |
| 20:04.12 | asg | V4Nelle: indeed |
| 20:04.17 | adv | asg: which do you prever? |
| 20:04.22 | adv | prefer |
| 20:04.41 | adv | markybob: i would appreciate your input too |
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| 20:06.13 | asg | adv: it was a stupid question, it deserved a stupid answer |
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| 20:07.53 | adv | asg: hm? |
| 20:08.13 | md70 | asg the question has deep philosophical implications. are debian users really alive? I prefer to say simply that i'm up? |
| 20:08.47 | md70 | and are windows users already dead and in hell? well this is a simple one. |
| 20:08.53 | hesco | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.24 | simonrvn | sounds more religious than philosophical... |
| 20:09.38 | hesco | s/grub/grub2/ |
| 20:10.15 | kanzure | What is xapien? |
| 20:11.56 | md70 | simonrv well windows managed to instantiate hell without dependencies in the transcendent IMHO |
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| 20:14.58 | vlt | Hello. I want to add an iproute2 filter for PPPoE traffic. Does anyone know the proto name for `tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: prio 0 protocol ...`? |
| 20:15.06 | md70 | hesco iirc you build source packages with an apt-get -b or dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 20:15.34 | asg | vlt: if nobody in here knows, try ##networking or lartc.org |
| 20:15.50 | md70 | hesco and is there a peculiar reason for using grub2? |
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| 20:18.27 | vlt | asg: Thank you. |
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| 20:25.44 | maxigas | how do i find out which packages are on hold? |
| 20:25.58 | maxigas | i've put them on hold with aptitude but now i don't know which ones. |
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| 20:33.06 | Envite | can somebody help me with m-a ? |
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| 20:39.22 | shingouz | maxigas: the easiest way is to apt-get upgrade --simulate and see what packages are set on hold. there are other methods too of course |
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| 20:42.06 | maxigas | shingouz: is that the same as packages set on 'hold' in aptitude? |
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| 20:45.20 | torrrr | what does 200 mean in: echo 200 John >> /etc/iproute2/rt_tables |
| 20:45.23 | torrrr | ? |
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| 20:46.01 | Envite | can somebody help me with module-assistant ? |
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| 20:46.17 | shingouz | maxigas: i suppose so, never have been using aptitude on a real system |
| 20:46.38 | shingouz | Envite: ask your question and maybe someone answers it |
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| 20:47.52 | Envite | compilation fails |
| 20:47.59 | Envite | I have system in spanish |
| 20:48.19 | JyZyXEL | wtf |
| 20:48.28 | Envite | ¡Ha fallado la compilación del paquete ipw3945-source! |
| 20:48.29 | JyZyXEL | everytime i do "aptitude upgrade" it install something new |
| 20:48.33 | JyZyXEL | completely random |
| 20:48.45 | JyZyXEL | why doesn't it just install all upgrades at once |
| 20:48.58 | JyZyXEL | do i have to put the "aptitude upgrade" to a loop |
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| 20:49.05 | moshii | !enter |
| 20:49.05 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 20:49.07 | shingouz | Envite: check the logs, afaik m-a logs the failures somewhere |
| 20:49.31 | JyZyXEL | seriosly wtf is that? |
| 20:50.09 | shingouz | JyZyXEL: do not |
| 20:50.12 | shingouz | JyZyXEL: use |
| 20:50.18 | shingouz | JyZyXEL: enter like this :) |
| 20:50.23 | JyZyXEL | but im so mad |
| 20:50.25 | moshii | JyZyXEL: if you have a real question, ask it. if you're just being a whining bitch, go away |
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| 20:52.27 | LimCore | JyZyXEL: probably some bug. if you think you are unlucky because you hit a bug in a linux distro, then think again |
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| 20:53.03 | LimCore | JyZyXEL: if it's actually a bug then report it. And it will got fixed. Well, ...eventually. |
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| 20:54.45 | Baloo | wonders what the deal is getting nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx set up on an amd64 kernel. |
| 20:56.36 | moshii | Baloo: I'd say there's a good chance it doesnt work... ;) |
| 20:56.39 | Envite | My module assistant fails compiling ipw3945: make[3]: se ingresa al directorio `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-1-686' |
| 20:56.40 | Envite | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.40 | Envite | /usr/src/modules/ipw3945/ipw3945.c: In function âipw_print_rx_config_cmdâ: |
| 20:56.40 | Envite | /usr/src/modules/ipw3945/ipw3945.c:2729: error: implicit declaration of function âMAC_ARGâ |
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| 20:57.19 | moshii | Envite: you have all the right headers installed right? |
| 20:57.25 | Envite | I hope |
| 20:57.29 | Envite | i did m-a prepare |
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| 20:58.37 | moshii | Envite: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=462546 |
| 20:58.48 | deb_user | hello, how do I make grub my default boot loader? |
| 20:58.48 | moshii | Envite: read the reply to the bug |
| 20:58.56 | Envite | thanks, reading |
| 20:58.57 | deb_user | I have already done a install-grub |
| 20:59.01 | moshii | deb_user: install it into the mbr |
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| 20:59.10 | deb_user | moshii: a clue or two? |
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| 20:59.21 | deb_user | haven't been able to google it down |
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| 21:00.18 | Baloo | moshii: Shit. Oh well, 32-bit works, is just not as sexy. |
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| 21:00.38 | valdyn | deb_user: "grub-install /dev/<disk>", usually |
| 21:00.40 | Envite | moshii: i can not find that |
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| 21:03.37 | robboplus | hm can someone in here please tell me if people outside USA have to pay tax when ordering dedicated server from US company? |
| 21:03.57 | Envite | I can not find replacement module to ipw3945 |
| 21:03.58 | robboplus | or actually those 2 taxes |
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| 21:08.30 | deb_use2 | moshii: actually, I did install it on the mbr |
| 21:08.38 | deb_use2 | but it still defaults to lilo |
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| 21:12.27 | Envite | How to make Intel 3945 to work in Debian on a 2.6.24 kernel? |
| 21:14.19 | Shadowcat | is there an open source driver for it? |
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| 21:14.50 | Envite | I think it is in the same state than ipw3945 but without regulatory daemon |
| 21:15.06 | Shadowcat | in that case read the documentation |
| 21:15.17 | Envite | can't find it |
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| 21:15.35 | Shadowcat | !google ipw3945 linux driver |
| 21:15.37 | pkcahier | -!- http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:15.42 | Shadowcat | should be there |
| 21:15.58 | Envite | ipw3945 is NOT what i'm asking for |
| 21:16.14 | Envite | i said 2.6.24 |
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| 21:17.29 | JyZyXEL | gem update --system is disabled on Debian. RubyGems can be updated using the official Debian repositories by aptitude or apt-get. |
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| 21:17.36 | Shadowcat | if there isn't a patch for that particular kernel |
| 21:17.38 | Shadowcat | you can't use it |
| 21:17.49 | JyZyXEL | did i full upgrade |
| 21:17.51 | Shadowcat | but shouldn't those modules be included in those recent kernels by default? |
| 21:17.59 | Shadowcat | JyZyXEL: to what release? |
| 21:18.01 | Shadowcat | unstable? |
| 21:18.05 | JyZyXEL | testing |
| 21:18.08 | Envite | Shadowcat: ipw3945 is dead, and just waiting to be buried |
| 21:18.18 | Penggu | hi all. can someone help me with this: i can't find kernel sources in the latest stable aptitude list - any ideas? |
| 21:18.24 | Shadowcat | so what's the replacement project? |
| 21:18.26 | Shadowcat | sorry, kind of been out of the loop for a while |
| 21:18.34 | Envite | so I'm asking about how to make the NEW driver work |
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| 21:18.43 | Shadowcat | link to site please |
| 21:18.46 | Envite | how to install it and how to make it work |
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| 21:18.55 | JyZyXEL | i should get the rubygems for unstable? |
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| 21:19.03 | Penggu | linux-kernel-headers are installed... |
| 21:19.08 | Shadowcat | JyZyXEL: try that, with extreme caution though |
| 21:19.16 | Shadowcat | lots of stuff is broken in testing right now |
| 21:19.22 | Penggu | kernel-package has unstatisfied deps |
| 21:19.31 | Envite | Shadowcat: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=462546 |
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| 21:20.50 | Shadowcat | http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi |
| 21:20.56 | Shadowcat | it should be buried somewhere on that page |
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| 21:21.17 | Dynalon | does sb. know if there exist ipv4 tunnel broker just as the dozen of ipv6 broker there are out there? i just mean a provider to which you can establish your v4 tunel over dialup, and have an exclusive ipv4 address |
| 21:21.46 | Envite | i searched that |
| 21:21.53 | Envite | nothing specific about debian |
| 21:22.12 | Shadowcat | and the generic instructions do not work? |
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| 21:22.22 | Shadowcat | did you try with a vanilla kernel? |
| 21:22.31 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 21:22.31 | Shadowcat | i.e. compile from scratch? |
| 21:22.33 | Envite | it is a debian vanilla kernel |
| 21:22.38 | Envite | well... |
| 21:22.42 | Shadowcat | Envite: www.kernel.org |
| 21:22.45 | Envite | a debian kernel as-is |
| 21:23.09 | Shadowcat | try recompiling the whole thing |
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| 21:23.18 | Shadowcat | and if that doesn't work, do it from the original sources over at kernel.org |
| 21:23.21 | Shadowcat | yes, it's gonna be a bitch |
| 21:23.22 | Envite | linux-image-2.6.24-1-686 |
| 21:23.27 | Envite | which thing? |
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| 21:23.33 | Envite | the whole kernel? |
| 21:23.36 | Shadowcat | yes |
| 21:23.42 | Envite | i do not want to do that |
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| 21:23.57 | Shadowcat | sometimes you have to to get to the bottom of these things |
| 21:23.58 | Envite | i just want my card working, as it were in 2.6.18 |
| 21:24.22 | ribnitz | Am I correct: the latest widely supported WLAN standard is 54mbit/s (802.11g); 108MBit/s is a hack, and the 300 MBit/s (802.11n) is currently not a standard? |
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| 21:24.58 | Shadowcat | ya |
| 21:25.02 | janis | hi there!! what is the best way to acquire a 32bit version of a library in x86_64 distibutions, to avoid chrooting? |
| 21:25.16 | Envite | Shadowcat: debian did the things easy in 2.6.18 with a specific package for the driver and another one for the daemon |
| 21:25.30 | Shadowcat | .... |
| 21:25.38 | Envite | later it did easy to use module-assistant to get the driver |
| 21:25.38 | Shadowcat | there's a reason upgrades break things |
| 21:25.55 | Shadowcat | Envite: all I know is, that I'd compile my own kernel to solve it |
| 21:26.12 | Envite | now, i can not use module-assistant and there is no precompiled kernel |
| 21:26.13 | Shadowcat | because I assume you've pretty much dragged every bit of info about that driver out of dpkg already |
| 21:26.17 | Shadowcat | and not found anything |
| 21:26.19 | Shadowcat | am I correct? |
| 21:26.30 | Envite | more or less |
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| 21:26.44 | Shadowcat | gives Envite a biohazard suit |
| 21:26.47 | Shadowcat | have fun |
| 21:26.56 | Envite | btw recompiling the kernel will not solve anything if there is no driver to compile |
| 21:27.13 | Shadowcat | if there isn't a driver for the latest driver, you need to downgrade the kernel |
| 21:27.16 | Shadowcat | that's how this game is played |
| 21:27.28 | Shadowcat | and if .23 isn't available in the official repository, you know what that means |
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| 21:27.50 | Shadowcat | personally I run hardware that got supported at the .16 stage |
| 21:28.01 | Shadowcat | so I haven't had to deal with these things for quite a while |
| 21:28.22 | Shadowcat | but back in the day I had no choice but to compile my own kernels because back then module assistant didn't exist |
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| 21:28.32 | Envite | Shadowcat: I'v been compiling kernels since the old 1 series, I do not need biohazard suits |
| 21:28.50 | Shadowcat | Envite: kind of still do :/ |
| 21:28.51 | Envite | I just want my favorite distro not to break things |
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| 21:30.45 | ruied | Hi! I'm trying to make a debian installer from the USB stick... I've made an USB partition and installed grub. the usb partition (sdb1) has the /boot and /boot/grub... I've copied the initrd and vmlinuz do sdb1 boot partition... the sistem boot's from the usb an the installer starts ok... but then I have an error, th debian installer is searching the cdrom... but I've copied all the cdrom files to the sdb1 '/' partition... |
| 21:31.40 | ruied | what can I do now to installer read my USB instead of trying to mount the cdrom? |
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| 21:35.42 | jaggy- | I can't figure out (or find a page yet) on mounting my dvd.. says wrong. when I mount /dev/hda is says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/dvd" (dvd is linked to hda which dmesg shows as the dvd/cd drive) |
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| 21:38.03 | jaggy- | does anything change when you install user-space fs support? |
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| 21:38.18 | Envite | no |
| 21:38.28 | jaggy- | I might have installed sshfs (which depends on user-space fs support..) after I'd mounted this dvd before |
| 21:38.48 | Envite | if it says wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/dvd it is one of these three reasons |
| 21:39.08 | jaggy- | hmm.. iso9660 is proper for a standard data dvd right? |
| 21:39.09 | Envite | how does it look the line of /etc/fstab with which you mount it? |
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| 21:39.31 | Envite | maybe not |
| 21:39.55 | Envite | try hand-mounting with filesystem type auto |
| 21:39.59 | jstephenson | After removing a package, is there any command to automatically remove various libraries and things that were installed as dependencies at the time, provided they're not in use by anything else? |
| 21:40.09 | Envite | jstephenson: yes |
| 21:40.21 | jaggy- | there's a line for /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 21:40.34 | Envite | typically it works only with libraries |
| 21:40.50 | Envite | install package deborphan and run command deborphan |
| 21:41.01 | Envite | it gives a list of unneeded packages |
| 21:41.18 | Envite | be careful not to uninstalling optimized system libraries |
| 21:41.21 | jaggy- | jstephenson: perhaps someone can complete this: They recommended I use aptitude to install my things in the first place, for it handles dependencies nicer than "other" package installation utilities, including the handling of all "automatically installed" packages. |
| 21:41.53 | jaggy- | deborphan is good to know.. I installed a lot of things before I knew this aptitude-thing. However, I think I'll just resize my linux partition :) |
| 21:41.59 | Envite | jaggy-: yes, but that does only work if you used aptitude from the first time |
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| 21:42.09 | o2T7 | Hi. Perhaps I have a wrong config on my repositories file, but I can't find the linux-kbuild-2.6.22 package. Isn't it available in the official repositories? Note: I am using etch |
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| 21:42.33 | Envite | another clue: try to mark as autoinstalled with aptitude all the libraries |
| 21:42.44 | Envite | it will autoremove all the inneeded ones |
| 21:42.50 | jstephenson | Envite: 'eh? |
| 21:43.06 | jaggy- | Envite: mount: you must specify the filesystem type ... I've been doing it by hand |
| 21:43.21 | Envite | jstephenson: aptitude markauto libthis libtheotherone etc |
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| 21:43.36 | Envite | jaggy: use -t auto |
| 21:43.44 | Envite | and let's see if it autodetects |
| 21:43.46 | jaggy- | that's what gave the last msg |
| 21:44.12 | Envite | well, try -t iso9660 |
| 21:44.16 | jaggy- | same |
| 21:44.32 | Envite | same which? |
| 21:45.10 | jaggy- | jstephenson: I have a python script which lists pckgs with dates.. piped | sort and you can see packages which you might want to work with |
| 21:45.48 | jaggy- | what's the alternative to uninstalling them all and reinstalling by hand? or marking all as auto then re-selecting which are not auto? |
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| 21:46.10 | jaggy- | same "wrong fs type..." |
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| 21:46.57 | Envite | jaggy: maybe the filesystem is not recognized at all |
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| 21:47.01 | jaggy- | yikes.. errors in log/messages |
| 21:47.18 | Envite | do a dump of the start of the disc and run 'file' on ot |
| 21:47.22 | Envite | on it |
| 21:47.56 | jstephenson | Mm, just read a quick article bigging up aptitude against apt-* and the various other utilities. Is aptitude commonly used over apt-* etc then? |
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| 21:48.19 | Envite | jstephenson: it is preferred actually |
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| 21:48.29 | Envite | it is a frontend |
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| 21:49.41 | Envite | what I use to do in my system is just to markauto all packages i see around |
| 21:50.21 | Envite | if they try to deinstall automatically, then I try to remember if I installed them consciusly or are dependences of deleted packages |
| 21:50.36 | peleg | do you know how can I record and apply macros in SciTE ? |
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| 21:51.39 | jstephenson | Envite: But if installed with aptitude, will purging the package attempt to remove orphaned dependencies too? |
| 21:51.47 | Envite | yes |
| 21:51.57 | jstephenson | Envite: Just checking through manpages etc ... but missing the point of markauto? |
| 21:52.14 | Envite | if it was installed with aptitude, the dependencies installed at the same time were marked as markauto |
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| 21:52.57 | Envite | and deinstalling the package causes aptitude to ask you if you're sure to deinstall it and the dependences |
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| 21:53.14 | JammedCisco | I disabled KDE using command "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove", How do I enable it back? |
| 21:53.51 | Envite | try dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 21:54.23 | epsilon | probably: update-rc.d kdm defaults |
| 21:54.40 | Envite | it probably works too |
| 21:54.40 | JammedCisco | thanks! |
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| 21:55.01 | jstephenson | Envite: Gotcha. So if you were to change to aptitude after having been using apt-get for example, packages that were installed as deps for other packages with apt-get would need to be marked manually as markauto? |
| 21:55.18 | Envite | exactly |
| 21:55.41 | Envite | but you do not need to do it on one shot |
| 21:55.59 | Envite | you can live comfortably without doing it at all |
| 21:57.07 | rahsputin | Hello, I run Debian on a Laptop that uses Xvesa. Does anybody here have expierence with Xvesa, for i would like to log start ICEWM with user priveleges, and not root |
| 21:57.32 | jaggy- | I'm disturb-bed! |
| 21:58.05 | jaggy- | I can't find my other dvd package this software came with.. I'm 99% sure it came with two DVD cases each with 2 dvd's. |
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| 22:00.52 | jstephenson | Envite: Apt does oneshot? |
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| 22:04.37 | Monobi | how do I send a system message? |
| 22:05.48 | \amethyst | Monobi: what do you mean by a system message? |
| 22:05.50 | mbroeker | Monobi, wall? |
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| 22:06.02 | Monobi | thanks |
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| 22:08.21 | andrboot | Hi i was wondering, i have 3 machnies running debian lenny.. and eveytime tehre is updates i have to update 3 machines manually.. is there a simple way fto setup for one machine to download it and for the rest to grab it of that machine? |
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| 22:08.51 | themill | !apt-proxy |
| 22:08.51 | dpkg | hmm... apt-proxy is a cool proxy for lots of Debian machines on a network together. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/237, or see also <apt-cacher> |
| 22:08.54 | black_13 | has anyone her install vmware workstation on debian lenny ? |
| 22:09.09 | quentusrex | for a 1U server with 4 hot swap drives and the server can do raid 0/1/5. Would it be better to use debian software raid or the hardware raid? |
| 22:09.47 | Ryan52 | quentusrex: software raid is nicer imo. dont use raid 5. its EXTREMELY slow! |
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| 22:10.18 | jaggy- | Envite: file says it's "data". I presume it's possible InDesign keeps a plain data dvd for its own access methods ... I don't know how strange that would be though. I can't find my other pack of DVD's to see if there's a different disk #1 (this one is not numbered so I am not sure what else I have) |
| 22:10.29 | quentusrex | Ryan52, I haven't heard it was 'that' much slower... |
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| 22:11.13 | Ryan52 | quentusrex: anything with parity is slower. |
| 22:11.16 | jaggy- | I'm using a 4-drive raid-5 array (Perc 5/i controller in a dell system) with a 5th drive for hot-spare |
| 22:11.34 | bolt | shoes |
| 22:11.49 | quentusrex | I'll have all 4 drives in the raid 5 array, and I'll have a cold spare |
| 22:12.31 | jaggy- | maybe this is a cold spare.. it sounds better and hot-spare bothers me |
| 22:12.35 | jaggy- | it is asleep right? |
| 22:12.46 | quentusrex | cold spare isn't plugged in |
| 22:12.47 | jaggy- | it's not like the drive is sitting there spinning? |
| 22:12.55 | Ryan52 | the organization I sysadmin at banned raid 5 :D |
| 22:13.00 | jaggy- | ah.. this will be plugged in so it'll kick in automatically -- colocated server. |
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| 22:13.16 | quentusrex | no, a hot spare is in the system a cold spare is sitting next to the system. |
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| 22:14.10 | jaggy- | dell didn't support raid 6 I think |
| 22:14.58 | andrboot | Ryan52 what are they using instead? |
| 22:15.17 | quentusrex | jaggy, the only difference between raid 5 and 6 is that 5 can only survive one drive failure at a time, and raid 6 can survive more |
| 22:15.47 | peleg | anyone here uses macros on SciTE? |
| 22:15.57 | Ryan52 | raid 10 |
| 22:16.00 | Ryan52 | or raid 1 |
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| 22:16.09 | jaggy- | can I share a raw device over samba so I this unique-filesystem can be mapped on our XP system? :) |
| 22:16.09 | ruied | Hi! I'm trying to make a debian installer from the USB stick... I've made an USB partition and installed grub. the usb partition (sdb1) has the /boot and /boot/grub... I've copied the initrd and vmlinuz do sdb1 boot partition... the sistem boot's from the usb an the installer starts ok... but then I have an error, th debian installer is searching the cdrom... but I've copied all the cdrom files to the sdb1 '/' partition... |
| 22:16.14 | ruied | what can I do now to installer read my USB instead of trying to mount the cdrom? |
| 22:16.22 | jaggy- | s/over samba/over the network/ |
| 22:16.48 | gusnan | peleg: If you mean simple Lua stuff, yes... |
| 22:17.38 | peleg | gusnan: would you mind to give me a hint of how to do that? all I want is simple stuff like whenever I press "alt-ctrl-f" I will have a specific string written, etc. |
| 22:17.39 | Ryan52 | I have a package that I made that depends on "emacs21-nox | emacs21 | emacs22-nox | emacs22". If I make it depend on emacsen, how can I say "if there are no emacsen installed install emacs21-nox" |
| 22:17.59 | peleg | I have tried to learn how to do that by the help of google, and couldn't... :-) |
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| 22:18.39 | xand | 6/in 88 |
| 22:18.42 | xand | ffs |
| 22:19.02 | jaggy- | raid 10 looks good |
| 22:20.00 | jaggy- | I mean, I use raid 1 at home.. but for having more drives in a system 10 seems like a bright idea. More wasteful on space than 5, but the failure handling is wise. |
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| 22:21.07 | quentusrex | I need somethign that is redundant, and can read files really fast |
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| 22:21.14 | quentusrex | writing isn't an issue... |
| 22:21.19 | jaggy- | raid 1 is good |
| 22:21.28 | quentusrex | with 8 drives? |
| 22:21.32 | jaggy- | it's just a mirror, but reading can be faster by distributing reads |
| 22:21.33 | torrrrr | can someone help me with my route table? |
| 22:21.36 | jaggy- | ooh, 8 drives |
| 22:21.44 | torrrrr | (I've messed it up) |
| 22:21.45 | jaggy- | dunno |
| 22:21.46 | quentusrex | 8 1TB drives |
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| 22:22.16 | jaggy- | you want to maximize read-speed? |
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| 22:22.30 | quentusrex | yes, and space, with redundancy |
| 22:22.36 | jaggy- | can you have 8 drives in a raid mirror? :) |
| 22:23.44 | Ryan52 | quentusrex, jaggy-: raid 10 can do 8 drives. 4 raid 1 arrays and then 1 raid 0 array over that. (I think) |
| 22:24.06 | Ryan52 | so that would give you 4TBs total |
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| 22:24.40 | Ryan52 | or you could do 4 raid 0 arrays with a raid 1 over them...same thing. |
| 22:24.43 | quentusrex | 4 out of 8 |
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| 22:24.46 | Ryan52 | yes |
| 22:24.50 | quentusrex | :( |
| 22:24.59 | quentusrex | raid 6 sounds good.... |
| 22:25.05 | Ryan52 | raid 1/10 gets you have of the space. your gonna loose space if you want to be redundant. |
| 22:25.17 | Ryan52 | s/have/half/ |
| 22:26.34 | quentusrex | raid 6 has no read penaltes... |
| 22:26.39 | quentusrex | penalties* |
| 22:26.51 | quentusrex | which is more along the lines of what I think I'll need.... |
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| 22:27.14 | jstephenson | Trying to find somewhere that documents the different letters next to packages after an 'aptitude search php' for example. 'i' for installed ... but 'p', 'c' etc ... |
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| 22:28.32 | Ryan52 | jstephenson: v for virtual, p for purged/never installed, c for installed but then removed and not purged. |
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| 22:28.50 | Ryan52 | jstephenson: purged means removed and config files removed |
| 22:28.50 | jstephenson | Ryan52: virtual? |
| 22:28.59 | Ryan52 | jstephenson: virtual package. |
| 22:29.22 | themill | !virtual package |
| 22:29.22 | dpkg | virtual package is probably a package that doesn't really exist but represents a function which several real packages fulfill, which appears in the Provides control file field of another package. The effect is as if the package(s) which provide a particular virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual package name appears. To find which package(s) provide a foo virtual package, use $ apt-cache showpkg foo; |
| 22:29.59 | jstephenson | Ahh |
| 22:30.01 | Ryan52 | dpkg types faster than me :P |
| 22:30.07 | jstephenson | Haha |
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| 22:30.49 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 22:30.49 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
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| 22:35.49 | akio | hello |
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| 22:37.50 | ma3x | why the hell my clock moves sometimes 2 hours forward and then reverses automatically? |
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| 22:38.19 | xand | distortions in the spacetime continuum |
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| 22:41.54 | akio | umm im running lenny and i need an etch-backport package? |
| 22:42.06 | streuner | no |
| 22:42.23 | streuner | backports are usually for etch/stable |
| 22:42.35 | akio | i don't want to send my packages through the mix but i have a package dependency that can't be filled |
| 22:42.50 | themill | akio: what are you looking for? |
| 22:42.54 | streuner | sounds like bobbitt :-) |
| 22:43.13 | akio | linux-kbuild-2.6.22 |
| 22:43.32 | themill | akio: the current kernel in lenny is 2.6.24. |
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| 22:43.51 | akio | im running linux-kbuild-2.6.22 |
| 22:43.55 | akio | oops |
| 22:44.04 | akio | 2.6.22-3-amd64 |
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| 22:44.44 | akio | am i not getting something? |
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| 22:45.31 | themill | akio: because that's no longer the current kernel in lenny, the kbuild package is not available. You can either look on snapshots for it, or upgrade your kernel. |
| 22:45.35 | themill | !sdn |
| 22:45.35 | dpkg | rumour has it, sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is largely lost because of harddisk problems. |
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| 22:46.44 | akio | i think i might upgrade |
| 22:46.56 | akio | but i was trying to keep it from being sid |
| 22:47.06 | akio | i think they are pretty much the same |
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| 22:49.16 | themill | akio: lenny has 2.6.24 itself... you're not pulling the package from sid. |
| 22:49.34 | akio | then what is sid running |
| 22:50.21 | themill | akio: the same. |
| 22:50.38 | akio | i don't think i understand the differences between sid and lenny |
| 22:50.42 | andrboot | themill when using apt-proxy thingy.. the deb source isn't working.. any idea why? |
| 22:51.10 | themill | akio: Once a package in sid proves to be stable enough and all its dependencies are available, it is "copied" into lenny for wider testing. |
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| 22:52.04 | themill | andrboot: I've never used it... I just know it exists and can point you to it and the docs :) |
| 22:52.21 | andrboot | kk fiar enough :) |
| 22:53.05 | akio | is xcompmanager dead? |
| 22:53.23 | akio | im just looking |
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| 22:54.14 | gravity | akio: For all intents and purposes, yes |
| 22:54.21 | gravity | akio: It was mainly a learning experiment |
| 22:54.26 | magyar | hi, I have a dell monitor with sd card readers on the side that attach with a usb cable to the PC. If the usb cable is attached to the PC my 2.6.24 kernel crapps out with "mounting root file system" If I unplug the usb cable it works OK. The problem is not thre with 2.6.23 kernel |
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| 22:55.25 | themill | magyar: that's what happens when you have overly fancy hardware and try to make everyone else jealous of it :) |
| 22:55.45 | andrboot | lol |
| 22:56.20 | akio | my dell has two usb on the side, its one of those corporate dell lcds |
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| 22:57.12 | token_macguy | magyar: does it boot into recovery console? are you able to ls /dev/sd*? |
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| 22:58.05 | fmaq | he actually only speaks spanish ;) |
| 22:58.12 | aki1 | haha |
| 22:58.16 | aki1 | killed him |
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| 22:58.25 | Nyle | hola boys n girls |
| 22:59.33 | magyar | token_macguy: yes it does |
| 22:59.42 | jstephenson | Ryan52: How's about a big A for an installed package (i A) |
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| 23:00.46 | themill | magyar: do you specify your root filesystem as /dev/sd* or by UUID? |
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| 23:02.00 | magyar | themill: /dev/sd* |
| 23:02.02 | fmaq | pa mi eso es un bot |
| 23:02.43 | aki1 | is their any way to keep the nvidia kernel module script happy by switching to gcc 4.1? |
| 23:03.04 | themill | magyar: I'm just wondering if the presence of the usb disks is changing which disk is /dev/sda, sdb etc. Mounting by UUID would get around that. (I've not heard of this problem with 2.6.24 though) |
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| 23:03.39 | themill | !tell aki1 about nvidia compiler fix |
| 23:03.56 | streuner | !factinfo nvidia compiler fix |
| 23:03.57 | dpkg | nvidia compiler fix -- last modified at Tue Jan 29 14:24:41 2008 by themill!n=stuart@phoenix.chm.bris.ac.uk; it has been requested 3 times, last by themill, 17s ago. |
| 23:04.13 | magyar | themill: this problem has been since sarge. In that case the problem was with SCSI and SATA |
| 23:04.14 | streuner | hm, big suprise :-) |
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| 23:04.43 | streuner | themill: i hope, you warn people about nvidia installers? |
| 23:04.54 | themill | streuner: check the factoid.... |
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| 23:04.58 | streuner | hm |
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| 23:05.32 | streuner | themill: fine |
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| 23:05.54 | magyar | hi, is there a way to prevent USB subsystem to load before the SATA/IDE with init-ramfs? |
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| 23:06.17 | themill | streuner: :) If I see something come up more than a couple of times, I normally stash it into dpkg and try to link it in to other places. That one's not currently linked though... might do that now. |
| 23:06.19 | akio | themill: i have dual monitors and the newest nvidia-settings handles them properly |
| 23:06.44 | akio | gdm keeps popping up on the wrong monitor |
| 23:06.56 | streuner | themill: i would just use <gcc> |
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| 23:07.15 | streuner | themill: it seems enough to fix that |
| 23:07.25 | themill | streuner: CC= doesn't work on nvidia stuff (apparently) |
| 23:07.32 | akio | so the nvidia-glx is the one i want right? |
| 23:07.35 | streuner | oh, didn't know that |
| 23:07.49 | themill | streuner: same with vmware's crappy installer thing. |
| 23:08.14 | streuner | themill: so i would just tell people nvidia-installer sucks... |
| 23:08.32 | themill | indeed. |
| 23:08.43 | themill | but some people are persistent. |
| 23:08.43 | paxcoder | streuner: yeah, but beats radeon's installation procedure |
| 23:08.55 | paxcoder | i still don't have 3d |
| 23:09.06 | themill | streuner: at least, I gather that doesn't work from the dozens of people who have come in here, someone has suggested exactly that and they've said that it didn't work. |
| 23:09.22 | streuner | themill: they should search somewhere else, where and HOW they can shoot in there own foot ;-) |
| 23:10.14 | streuner | themill: discussions were pretty stopped, when we told them about <nvidia-installer sucks> in the past... |
| 23:10.29 | akio | i don't see nvidia-glx in lenny |
| 23:10.43 | streuner | well, its not in lenny actually |
| 23:11.10 | themill | streuner: it's usually at this point that people crack the shits with the debian way and go back to the installer.... |
| 23:11.12 | streuner | /msg dpkg nvidia and read wiki.debian.org |
| 23:11.53 | paxcoder | why don't you guys make an easy radeon driver installation procedure |
| 23:12.08 | paxcoder | i know it's non-free, but what else is there? |
| 23:12.14 | paxcoder | accept 2d |
| 23:12.37 | akio | well i'm running just openbox and it still isn't as smooth as i'd like |
| 23:12.47 | akio | and i have a geforce 7800 |
| 23:13.10 | akio | right now im running in text |
| 23:13.40 | akio | using links/finch/aptitude |
| 23:13.42 | paxcoder | akio: probably hard to jump over capitals, eh? |
| 23:13.53 | themill | paxcoder: what do you mean? "aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-ati" seems pretty easy to get the radeon driver to me. |
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| 23:13.56 | akio | ? |
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| 23:14.09 | paxcoder | trying suggested |
| 23:14.15 | akio | oh! |
| 23:14.17 | akio | haha |
| 23:14.20 | akio | very funny |
| 23:14.22 | akio | not... |
| 23:14.30 | paxcoder | it's ok, i'll try again |
| 23:14.32 | akio | that was supercorn |
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| 23:17.03 | paxcoder | themill: still no 3d |
| 23:17.04 | torrrrr | anyone know how to setup a gateway for ip route? |
| 23:17.46 | torrrrr | stew: are you here? |
| 23:17.50 | themill | paxcoder: do you know if the radeon driver supports 3D for your card? |
| 23:17.55 | timonator | what's the motivation behind forbidding a user to chgrp a file they own to a group they're not a member of? |
| 23:18.01 | paxcoder | torrrr: i guess nobody knows |
| 23:18.28 | SerajewelKS | is there a friendly openssl frontend that i can use to generate e.g. a CA and some keys signed by it? |
| 23:18.42 | paxcoder | themill: actually, no. I am on some lists, on some... no |
| 23:18.50 | themill | timonator: the same reason as you can't chown a file in that way. There are group quotas as well as user quotas. |
| 23:18.56 | paxcoder | the mill: i mean my card |
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| 23:19.24 | akio | what about module-assistant? |
| 23:19.27 | timonator | oh, i thought quota only refers to "you can only use up 10 MB for your home directory" or something like that |
| 23:19.29 | paxcoder | themill: the driver works for 2d, but it's mesa instead of the other thingy |
| 23:19.39 | paxcoder | *so no 3d |
| 23:19.55 | paxcoder | i've been tryin stuff, and i'm tired of it. |
| 23:20.13 | themill | SerajewelKS: have a look at make-ssl-cert from package ssl-cert |
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| 23:20.32 | themill | paxcoder: you might need the fglrx driver for your chipset. /msg dpkg fglrx |
| 23:20.38 | SerajewelKS | themill: i was thinking more along the lines of GUI |
| 23:20.48 | streuner | !listvals ssl-cert |
| 23:20.50 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'ssl-cert' by value (2): apache mod-ssl ;; apache2-ssl-certificate. |
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| 23:20.59 | ma3x | hello |
| 23:21.00 | streuner | !apache mod-ssl |
| 23:21.01 | dpkg | somebody said apache mod-ssl was How can I create and use my own Certificate Authority CA http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#cert-ownca, or or see the package make-ssl-cert. |
| 23:21.09 | ma3x | streuner: have you had any experience on debian with usb headphones |
| 23:21.34 | streuner | ma3x: no, but just ask here in channel |
| 23:21.44 | paxcoder | themill: yes, i heard about it. can you tell me how to install it over binaries, if possible? |
| 23:21.47 | ma3x | streuner: i bought these usb headphones to learn german |
| 23:21.55 | ma3x | and they work perfect in windows |
| 23:21.56 | streuner | heh |
| 23:22.00 | paxcoder | themill: i mean, i tried, but no success |
| 23:22.01 | ma3x | debian detects them too |
| 23:22.05 | ma3x | but when i mix up the volume i hear nothing |
| 23:22.13 | streuner | oh gods, i hate "it worked in some other OS" |
| 23:22.21 | ma3x | streuner: but it really works |
| 23:22.29 | ma3x | i mean what's wrong with linux then? |
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| 23:22.42 | ma3x | does it not have the necessary drivers/modules or what? |
| 23:22.55 | tolecnal | streuner: yes, but the fact is that it working in another OS is totally irrelevant when trying to get stuff working under Linux |
| 23:22.56 | themill | paxcoder: follow dpkg's instructions and it works. If for some reason you have trouble, come back and ask *specific* questions and have the *exact* error messages to hand not some vague "it didn't work" bollox. |
| 23:23.09 | tolecnal | streuner: what does dmesg/syslog tell you when you plug it in |
| 23:23.18 | streuner | tolecnal: not me :-) |
| 23:23.26 | streuner | its ma3x |
| 23:23.27 | ma3x | tolecnal: I'm just pointing out that the headphones is sane (working) |
| 23:23.28 | paxcoder | themill: ok |
| 23:23.37 | tolecnal | ahahah, sorry streuner :) late at night |
| 23:23.44 | themill | !coffee tolecnal |
| 23:23.44 | dpkg | decants a fine broth of Jamaican Blue Mountain for tolecnal, courtesy of themill |
| 23:23.59 | akio | that is some good stuff |
| 23:23.59 | tolecnal | thanks themill :) |
| 23:24.05 | themill | np |
| 23:24.09 | SerajewelKS | streuner, tolecnal: it's relevant in the sense that it shows that the hardware is ok, or at least not too damaged |
| 23:24.12 | akio | i had some from nicaraugua |
| 23:24.19 | torrrrr | humm I did ifdown ifup and now everything is OK |
| 23:24.19 | ma3x | streuner: any help dude? |
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| 23:24.39 | Nyle | torrrrr, /etc/init.d/networking restart too |
| 23:24.41 | streuner | !any ideas |
| 23:24.41 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of string, a little vegemite, and 42 rabid goats. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few hours! |
| 23:24.57 | Nyle | dude |
| 23:25.02 | Nyle | that is a sick idea |
| 23:25.08 | tolecnal | ma3x: again, it doesn't really tell much other than it works somewhere else. which is not where you are trying to get it working. one assumes that new hardware works, but then comes the factor of hardware support. is the hardware supported, and if so, from which kernel version, from which kernel module, does it need special parameters etc etc. |
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| 23:25.55 | ma3x | tolecnal: you are too complicated man |
| 23:26.04 | paxcoder | themill: should i use "kernel's framebuffer device interface"? |
| 23:26.08 | ma3x | i'm just a usual debian user |
| 23:26.13 | tolecnal | ma3x: no, i'm not.. i'm going down the path one should think when trying to get something to work |
| 23:26.15 | ma3x | i don't want to get too much into this stuff |
| 23:26.19 | ma3x | i just want to get my headphones working |
| 23:26.20 | paxcoder | ma3x: so you're that guy |
| 23:26.29 | ma3x | why do i have to be an expert in debian to get them working? |
| 23:26.29 | paxcoder | how about that? nothing? |
| 23:26.39 | Nyle | ma3x, wow |
| 23:26.42 | ma3x | pax what guy |
| 23:26.46 | streuner | cannot hardly resist to insult someone :-) |
| 23:26.49 | Nyle | I taught a monkey how to compile a kernel |
| 23:26.55 | Nyle | seriously |
| 23:26.56 | Nyle | it is possible |
| 23:26.56 | themill | paxcoder: normally, say no to that. |
| 23:26.57 | tolecnal | ma3x: i didn't imply that you had to be an expert. this stuff is actually rather basic stuff to be quite honest |
| 23:27.01 | paxcoder | ma3x: ahh, no matter |
| 23:27.02 | Nyle | ma3x, you're smarter than a monkey I think |
| 23:27.03 | Nyle | :) |
| 23:27.08 | paxcoder | themill: ok, thx |
| 23:27.11 | ma3x | tolecnal: prove it it's simple! |
| 23:27.14 | ma3x | it ain't simple at all |
| 23:27.26 | ma3x | i've spent 3 days googling this stuff, lead me nowhere |
| 23:27.37 | tolecnal | ma3x: in all fairness, just because you're not getting it to work doesn't mean it's not simple |
| 23:27.39 | streuner | Nyle: no, he is a lazy bastard who wants that someone read for him ;-) |
| 23:27.46 | Nyle | oh |
| 23:27.47 | tolecnal | ma3x: again, i've told you where to start looking |
| 23:27.48 | akio | what is the sources.list line for that debian snapshots thing? |
| 23:27.49 | Nyle | hes THAT guy |
| 23:27.54 | themill | ma3x: have you had something continuousply playing and tried fiddling with the levels, mutes and switches in alsamixer? |
| 23:28.01 | Nyle | !sdo |
| 23:28.02 | themill | !tell akio about sdn |
| 23:28.05 | torrrrr | it has reset my |
| 23:28.07 | Nyle | oops |
| 23:28.10 | torrrrr | 'ip route" |
| 23:28.12 | torrrrr | :( |
| 23:28.20 | ma3x | themill: i had radio playing, and played with alsamixer, no effect |
| 23:28.34 | torrrrr | are IP route setting not permanent? |
| 23:28.35 | ma3x | as i told you debian detects it and loads usb sound module |
| 23:28.38 | Nyle | pull your head out of the computers ass |
| 23:28.41 | ma3x | but no sound on the head phones |
| 23:28.43 | Nyle | go smoke a cig or take a break |
| 23:28.48 | themill | ma3x: what chipset do you have? |
| 23:29.03 | ma3x | themill: they're crappy german headphones how would I know what chipset? |
| 23:29.10 | akio | i think sdn i dead |
| 23:29.16 | tolecnal | ma3x: lsusb? |
| 23:29.16 | streuner | hm |
| 23:29.17 | ma3x | "dp" digital publishing |
| 23:29.17 | paxcoder | themill: keyboard variant? how do i know (not eng), is there a way? |
| 23:29.19 | akio | is* |
| 23:29.50 | themill | paxcoder: I have no idea what sort of keyboard is in front of you. |
| 23:29.54 | paxcoder | themill: why isn't it just reading info from the old xorg config |
| 23:29.59 | ma3x | tolecnal: lsusb doesnt list it |
| 23:30.09 | themill | akio: http://snapshot.debian.net/ is working quite well... |
| 23:30.11 | ma3x | input: HID 0d8c:000c as /class/input/input11 |
| 23:30.11 | ma3x | input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.00 Device [HID 0d8c:000c] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2 |
| 23:30.14 | paxcoder | themill: i realize that, but can i find out somehow? (ie command) |
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| 23:30.30 | akio | i fat finger, i have no clipboad! |
| 23:31.06 | torrrrr | Nyle: why were my ip route tables deleted? |
| 23:31.09 | ma3x | I mean it's night time |
| 23:31.17 | ma3x | I wanna listen to some music and not wake up my neighbors |
| 23:31.17 | Nyle | torrrrr, how should I know? |
| 23:31.19 | torrrrr | Nyle: how can I keep them? |
| 23:31.26 | torrrrr | ok |
| 23:31.26 | paxcoder | themill: i can change that, right? |
| 23:31.27 | ma3x | and it's so shitty, already the 10th day I gotta sleep |
| 23:31.28 | ma3x | so dull |
| 23:31.30 | streuner | iptables-save |
| 23:31.40 | Nyle | ma3x, what are you on about? |
| 23:31.49 | ma3x | Nyle: trying to get the usb headphones work |
| 23:31.53 | ma3x | or the normal ones! |
| 23:31.53 | Nyle | ma3x, stop bying hw that doesn't work with linux |
| 23:31.58 | torrrrr | streuner: can I save backups? |
| 23:32.05 | ma3x | when i plug in the normal ones, then I still listen the sound on the laptop |
| 23:32.06 | Nyle | ma3x, onboard or pci? |
| 23:32.07 | themill | paxcoder: you can change it easily enough later by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf or by rerunning dpkg-reconfigure. |
| 23:32.08 | ma3x | it should stop |
| 23:32.19 | ma3x | Nyle: laptop stuff, I dunno if onboard or pci |
| 23:32.24 | streuner | torrrrr: man iptables-save |
| 23:32.27 | Nyle | ma3x, so sound works |
| 23:32.30 | themill | ma3x: these are usb headphones? |
| 23:32.30 | paxcoder | themill: easily enough, right :-) |
| 23:32.38 | Nyle | ma3x, does any headphone jack work in your laptop |
| 23:32.41 | ma3x | themill: no, the other ones with the green and red output |
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| 23:32.58 | themill | paxcoder: you can also change the kb mapping at runtime with xmodmap. |
| 23:32.58 | Nyle | ma3x, what about external speakers, plug that into the headphone jack on laptop |
| 23:33.11 | ma3x | Nyle: I do that, but then the external sound of the laptop still comes out |
| 23:33.17 | themill | is really confused |
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| 23:33.23 | ma3x | it should stop and I should be able to listen solely on the headphones |
| 23:33.27 | mib_eu33qqvz | hi |
| 23:33.27 | Nyle | ma3x, have you tried to boot a live cd like ubuntu or knoppi |
| 23:33.28 | ma3x | why the laptop speakers still play? |
| 23:33.32 | ma3x | Nyle: no |
| 23:33.39 | ma3x | I mean yes but didn't play anything thru there |
| 23:33.40 | Nyle | ma3x, try that, and test sound, then come back |
| 23:33.42 | themill | ma3x: why were we running lsusb if these are a set of analogue earphones? |
| 23:33.44 | Nyle | ma3x, if possible try inn windows too |
| 23:33.48 | Nyle | ma3x, I doubt its your software |
| 23:33.56 | Nyle | ma3x, it could be the headphone jack itself |
| 23:34.02 | ma3x | themill: because i have usb headphones too! plus analogue ones |
| 23:34.13 | ma3x | Nyle: in windows both work |
| 23:34.15 | themill | ma3x: one problem at a time. |
| 23:34.18 | Nyle | ma3x, both headphones no sound, laptop always sounds |
| 23:34.22 | Nyle | ? |
| 23:34.23 | ma3x | headset 1 (usb) works |
| 23:34.37 | ma3x | headset 2 (analogue) works too and disabled external speakers when plugged in |
| 23:34.46 | mib_eu33qqvz | i have a question, my hdd doesnt wanna boot anymore all of the sudden. It had Denbian installed. Any troubleshooting ideas? |
| 23:34.48 | paxcoder | themill: oh, i just remembered a question i wanted to ask. when booting, i get: *Couldn't set clock, that time synchronisation pulse or whatever was waited for for too long |
| 23:34.54 | ma3x | which doesn't happen in linux ( external ones still play) so I'll wake my neighbours |
| 23:34.57 | paxcoder | something like that... twice |
| 23:35.02 | mib_eu33qqvz | i get the error "Non-System disk or disk error" |
| 23:35.04 | Nyle | mib_eu33qqvz, where does it fail during boot |
| 23:35.23 | Nyle | mib_eu33qqvz, check bios settings and make sure boot order is correct, and select first the one that has debian |
| 23:35.23 | torrrrr | streuner: the output of iptables-save doesn't look like an ip route |
| 23:35.24 | mib_eu33qqvz | right before the loading of operating system |
| 23:35.35 | ma3x | themill: ok first lets try with the analogue ones! when I plug them in they work, but I still get the external sound from the laptop integrated speakers ( I want to stop that and listen only on the headphones ) |
| 23:35.40 | mib_eu33qqvz | i did its a western digital |
| 23:35.44 | Nyle | mib_eu33qqvz, make sure the bios can see the hdd |
| 23:35.48 | mib_eu33qqvz | i saw it there.. but still doesn;t boot |
| 23:35.50 | streuner | torrrrr: you usually set routes in Debian via /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:36.04 | mib_eu33qqvz | maybe the masterboot record got corrupted? |
| 23:36.04 | Nyle | mib_eu33qqvz, does the drive spin up? |
| 23:36.05 | themill | ma3x: so what chipset do you have? |
| 23:36.11 | mib_eu33qqvz | yes it does |
| 23:36.11 | streuner | mib_eu33qqvz: well, it seems to me, your mbr is gone |
| 23:37.00 | ma3x | themill: of the external headphones or internal laptop speakers? |
| 23:37.00 | mib_eu33qqvz | can i remake one? |
| 23:37.00 | Nyle | mib_eu33qqvz, did you install windows or something? |
| 23:37.00 | streuner | sure |
| 23:37.00 | ma3x | themill: or the usb speakers? |
| 23:37.00 | Nyle | how did you wipe the mbr |
| 23:37.00 | themill | ma3x: of your sound card |
| 23:37.00 | torrrrr | streuner: I have two nics on the same subnet, I was told to use 'ip route' |
| 23:37.00 | mib_eu33qqvz | nope its a development server.. we were working |
| 23:37.00 | Nyle | !fixmbr |
| 23:37.00 | dpkg | So you installed windows after debian, huh? Tssk. Boot to your debian install disk or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (alt-f2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; grub-install /dev/hda && update-grub" |
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| 23:37.00 | torrrrr | streuner: and 'ip rule' |
| 23:37.00 | Nyle | hm |
| 23:37.00 | mib_eu33qqvz | and all sudden stopped rebooted and that error |
| 23:37.03 | Nyle | this is a livecd chroot |
| 23:37.08 | eegore | does I have an old nec z1 that was given to me, I was wondering what is small and light enough to install to it? I was considering an ealy version of debian |
| 23:37.10 | ma3x | themill: which one - the laptop or the usb one? |
| 23:37.22 | Nyle | mib_eu33qqvz, get a live cd, boot, mount hdd, chroot into it, install grub |
| 23:37.44 | ma3x | themill: of the usb headset 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) |
| 23:37.46 | mib_eu33qqvz | what is grub? |
| 23:37.50 | Nyle | !grub |
| 23:37.50 | dpkg | i guess grub is the Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes, understands many filesystems (including <reiserfs> and <XFS> since 0.97), but see http://bugs.debian.org/grub. For an install guide, see http://linuxjournal.com/4622, or "aptitude install grub grub-doc". To reinstall, ask about <fixmbr> or <grub.errors> |
| 23:38.17 | themill | ma3x: what kernel are you running? |
| 23:38.28 | ma3x | themill: 24-1 |
| 23:38.29 | mib_eu33qqvz | when u say live cd you meant to download and burn a debian isntallation disk? |
| 23:38.50 | Nyle | mib_eu33qqvz, who put you in charge of the development server? |
| 23:39.01 | twobitsprite | Nyle, now you're getting somewhere |
| 23:39.02 | mib_eu33qqvz | ehm :) |
| 23:39.26 | themill | ma3x: I'd suggest that you go and talk to the guys in #alsa then since you're using a recent kernel. They can be slow to respond depending on who is actually around, but they will be able to help more than we can with this. |
| 23:39.53 | mib_eu33qqvz | actually is one project me and my buddy are working.. but we dont have much unix experience.. just basics install things apache php etc.. lol |
| 23:40.03 | mib_eu33qqvz | but now iam stuck with this hdd failure |
| 23:40.16 | Nyle | !dsl |
| 23:40.16 | dpkg | well, dsl is Digital Subscriber Line, the wonder technology the telcos will nevertheless find a way to turn into a con, or better than cable. http://www.dslreports.com or Damn Small Linux, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/, or for Damn Small Linux related questions, see #damnsmalllinux @ irc.freenode.net (ask me about <based on debian>) |
| 23:40.22 | Nyle | 50mb |
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| 23:40.31 | mib_eu33qqvz | so u say boot from a debian cd and mount the hdd |
| 23:40.35 | Nyle | download, burn, boot with it, mount hdd, chroot into it, install grub. |
| 23:40.41 | akio | snapshots worked like a charm!! |
| 23:40.43 | mib_eu33qqvz | awesome thanks |
| 23:40.46 | Nyle | mib_eu33qqvz, you really ought to read |
| 23:40.56 | Nyle | damn small linux |
| 23:41.04 | Nyle | !livecd |
| 23:41.04 | dpkg | livecd is probably an operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue cd or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian may one day have its own LiveCD http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-live/ or http://live.debian.net/ or #debian-live on oftc |
| 23:41.29 | twobitsprite | dpkg is out of date on that... debian does have a live cd |
| 23:41.39 | Nyle | !live |
| 23:41.39 | dpkg | live is, like, The Debian Live project provides prebuilt Debian live system images and allows to create your own. http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ and #debian-live on oftc.net (irc.debian.org), or http://live.debian.net/live-webhelper/ |
| 23:41.41 | adv | which backup tool should i use? |
| 23:41.52 | Nyle | twobitsprite, officially, no. |
| 23:41.59 | twobitsprite | ok, I see |
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| 23:42.56 | paxcoder | just a little more help |
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| 23:43.20 | paxcoder | i can't get higher refresh rate, so my picture is blurry, what to do? |
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| 23:43.52 | paxcoder | anyone? |
| 23:43.54 | Nyle | specify vert/horiz freq. in xorg.conf, and on the modes line, append @XX |
| 23:44.07 | Nyle | example "1024x768@85" |
| 23:44.09 | paxcoder | it's set on 70, and i can get it only up to 60 |
| 23:44.13 | paxcoder | oh |
| 23:44.15 | paxcoder | wait |
| 23:44.29 | paxcoder | i have no @'s whatsoever |
| 23:44.39 | paxcoder | only: |
| 23:44.39 | paxcoder | HorizSync30-70 |
| 23:44.39 | paxcoder | VertRefresh50-160 |
| 23:44.45 | Nyle | look up your monitors refresh rates on google and put them in the monitor section of xorg.conf |
| 23:44.51 | Nyle | ok |
| 23:44.53 | Nyle | thats good |
| 23:44.57 | Nyle | leave it like that |
| 23:45.15 | Nyle | only if you are sure it is correct |
| 23:45.23 | Nyle | double check anyway. |
| 23:45.39 | paxcoder | will do. thx. trying now... |
| 23:46.17 | roe_ | any idea when iceowl will hit the repos? |
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| 23:46.38 | simonrvn | !find iceowl etch |
| 23:46.54 | roe_ | lenny and sid |
| 23:47.02 | simonrvn | wir |
| 23:47.07 | Nyle | Mr. rvn |
| 23:47.07 | themill | !info iceowl lenny |
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| 23:47.16 | themill | dpkg: you're slow |
| 23:47.16 | dpkg | No, I'm not slow, I'm just overworked, underpaid, underappreciated and much maligned. Now STOP NAGGING ME!!!! |
| 23:47.22 | alanic | hi, i'm looking for information on how to use iptables on debian. debian definitely makes things different and there has to be documentation somewhere. anyone know one? |
| 23:47.28 | dpkg | iceowl: (Standalone Calendar Application), section web, is optional. Version: 0.7-2 (lenny), Packaged size: 7742 kB, Installed size: 22760 kB |
| 23:47.33 | Nyle | !iptables |
| 23:47.33 | dpkg | well, iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: <masq>, or try #iptables (irc.freenode.net) for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450 |
| 23:47.47 | alanic | Nyle: thanks |
| 23:47.52 | Nyle | yup |
| 23:48.12 | Nyle | the mill |
| 23:48.32 | Nyle | llimeht |
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| 23:48.42 | Nyle | nvrnomis |
| 23:48.48 | themill | Nyle: ? |
| 23:48.51 | paxcoder | ok, that was it, thanks |
| 23:48.53 | Nyle | bored :( |
| 23:49.00 | simonrvn | heh |
| 23:49.01 | Nyle | paxcoder, yp |
| 23:49.03 | Nyle | yup |
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| 23:49.32 | Nyle | hey simonrvn check out your name backwards |
| 23:49.44 | paxcoder | trying 3d |
| 23:49.46 | paxcoder | .. |
| 23:50.01 | Nyle | nvr no mis... never no miss ... never miss.. always on target |
| 23:50.07 | simonrvn | nvrnomis, almost a word |
| 23:50.07 | Nyle | simonrvn, thats cool man :) |
| 23:50.21 | simonrvn | heh |
| 23:50.57 | curtmack | oh boy |
| 23:51.03 | curtmack | "Waiting for root file system..." |
| 23:51.12 | curtmack | Let's suppose, hypothetically, Lenny hangs at that point... |
| 23:51.14 | andrboot | Hi; i recently have had a problem with mythtv.. with the install of it.. http://pb.udderweb.com/262 anyone have any idea's on how to fix? |
| 23:51.30 | curtmack | what would one do to resolve that? |
| 23:52.25 | Nyle | curtmack, when did this happen |
| 23:52.29 | Nyle | curtmack, on a reboot |
| 23:52.31 | akio | is there a way i can only pull the nvidia-glx kernel module from sid without touching anything else but its dependencies? |
| 23:52.38 | curtmack | Nyle: yeah |
| 23:52.43 | soblue | I use an alternate keyboard layout (Esperanto) once in a while; it removes some English alphabet characters and replaces them with Esperanto characters. This is fine normally, since I can switch with the "Keyboard Indicator" in GNOME, but when I'm in "Epo" mode, if I let my screen saver lock my keyboard, there's no way to change the layout (that I see). Any ideas? |
| 23:52.52 | Nyle | curtmack, system doesn't know where your root fs is |
| 23:52.53 | Nyle | ! |
| 23:52.55 | themill | !waiting for the root filesystem |
| 23:52.55 | dpkg | If you've recently upgraded your kernel and your system hangs at "waiting for the root filesystem", this may be from the libata transition. /dev/hd? disks might now be known as /dev/sd?. At the grub menu, press e to edit the entry, change the ROOT= part, then press b to boot. You need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and perhaps also your /etc/fstab. Also ask me about <can't mount root> |
| 23:53.00 | themill | curtmack: ^^ |
| 23:53.04 | Nyle | awe |
| 23:53.09 | Nyle | already a factoid |
| 23:53.14 | curtmack | andrboot: try running 'dpkg --configure --pending' as root |
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| 23:53.44 | paxcoder | ok, it works. thanks nyle, themill (although you weren't especially nice :-), but still) and dpkg maintainers |
| 23:53.45 | curtmack | okay thanks |
| 23:53.49 | Nyle | curtmack, you know what to do? |
| 23:53.53 | curtmack | yeah |
| 23:53.59 | Nyle | curtmack, pass the root= kernel param |
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| 23:54.10 | paxcoder | off to bed now... |
| 23:54.16 | Nyle | paxcoder, night |
| 23:54.21 | andrboot | curtmack: http://pb.udderweb.com/263 |
| 23:54.24 | themill | !congratulate paxcoder |
| 23:54.24 | dpkg | Yay paxcoder, you did it! |
| 23:54.29 | Nyle | what? |
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| 23:54.37 | curtmack | I change ROOT=/dev/hda1 to ROOT=/dev/sda1, right? |
| 23:54.38 | Nyle | themill is usually nice |
| 23:54.46 | paxcoder | ok, this is creepy, i think dpkg is developing AI |
| 23:54.54 | paxcoder | oh. |
| 23:54.55 | paxcoder | hmmm |
| 23:54.59 | paxcoder | bye all |
| 23:55.05 | soblue | I ask because my password happens to contain one of the characters that get mapped away from themselves, so I can't type my password at the screen saver unlocking prompt. |
| 23:55.10 | curtmack | andrboot: That is... bizarre... |
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| 23:55.30 | andrboot | btw.. mythtv is installed and works lol |
| 23:55.34 | andrboot | well.. somewhat |
| 23:55.38 | curtmack | okay |
| 23:55.51 | andrboot | but those error's are pissing me off |
| 23:55.51 | curtmack | then just run 'dpkg --configure --pending --force-depends' |
| 23:55.52 | andrboot | lol |
| 23:56.00 | curtmack | it'll print out a bunch of warnings but should configure right |
| 23:56.10 | andrboot | kk |
| 23:56.11 | andrboot | nope |
| 23:56.13 | torrrrr | how do I make it so 'ip route' commands are not lost after restarts? |
| 23:56.15 | curtmack | and it won't bug you about unconfigured packages anymore |
| 23:56.19 | curtmack | oh, it didn't work? |
| 23:56.28 | andrboot | curtmack: http://pb.udderweb.com/264 |
| 23:57.06 | curtmack | oh that's interesting... |
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| 23:57.16 | curtmack | wow, no idea what to tell you |
| 23:57.19 | themill | soblue: I understand your pain... I make sure that the keys I use are in the same place on both uk and us keyboards for similar reasons. |
| 23:57.21 | curtmack | oh yeah, fixing my computer now |
| 23:57.24 | curtmack | brb |
| 23:58.05 | themill | andrboot: where are these mythtv packages from? |
| 23:58.28 | andrboot | http://www.debian-multimedia.org |
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| 23:59.09 | curtmack | grrrr |
| 23:59.15 | themill | andrboot: hmmm.. because I see version 0.21-0.11etch1 of mythtv-common on that site not 0.20.2.svn20080126-0.1 (for etch, at least) |
| 23:59.40 | curtmack | whoever designed the GRUB installation part of the Debian installer can come to my house right now and fix my computer because they failed to verify the password |
| 23:59.43 | andrboot | how to fix :p |
| 23:59.54 | curtmack | I typoed my password >:( |
