| 00:00.06 | azeem | lee___: and read man ifup as well |
| 00:00.08 | The-Kernel | Wyzard it isn't |
| 00:00.18 | azeem | The-Kernel: how do you know? |
| 00:00.20 | lee___ | azeem: server is unavailable when it boots (for ldap) because I'm not on-line .. |
| 00:00.28 | azeem | lee___: it's NOT BOOTING |
| 00:00.35 | The-Kernel | azeem my system isn't logging! |
| 00:00.41 | lee___ | azeem: YES IT IS. |
| 00:00.51 | The-Kernel | http://pastebin.ca/987812 |
| 00:00.52 | azeem | lee___: so wait till it finished |
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| 00:00.55 | lee___ | azeem |
| 00:00.59 | azeem | lee___: wtf do you have LDAP if you cannot setup networking in the first place? |
| 00:01.11 | lee___ | azeem: Just help me set this up, please? |
| 00:01.17 | azeem | look, I'm trying |
| 00:01.43 | azeem | is it currently working or not? |
| 00:01.47 | lee___ | azeem: No. |
| 00:01.55 | azeem | why not? |
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| 00:02.37 | icesword | WormFood, hiya,good morning. |
| 00:03.00 | ootput | hi guys, i've formulated a udev rule to automount my sony ericsson's memory stick, and with the exclusion of a particular udev rule field ATTRS{interface}==".." the rule works. Why is it that I cannot use ATTRS{interface}? |
| 00:03.17 | lee___ | azeem: When init starts all that stuff (Like apache2, etc) ldap tries to connect to the ldap server, it fails to connect, which means I can't log in. |
| 00:03.33 | azeem | lee___: I know |
| 00:03.45 | azeem | why didn't you start thing manually for now? |
| 00:03.47 | lee___ | azeem: I'm trying to get on-line, so it can connect. |
| 00:04.03 | lee___ | azeem: I don't know how to get ldap to try to reconnect to the server when I log in.. |
| 00:04.14 | azeem | lee___: who setup ldap? |
| 00:04.25 | azeem | lee___: maybe /etc/init.d/slapd restart? |
| 00:04.35 | azeem | (I know nothing about LDAP) |
| 00:05.01 | lee___ | azeem: A script from a shell servoce |
| 00:05.19 | azeem | lee___: euh |
| 00:05.27 | Nyle | good evening people of the #debian |
| 00:05.44 | icesword | Nyle, morning |
| 00:05.53 | Nyle | yes that too |
| 00:05.54 | azeem | lee___: did you ever try to run ifup rausb0? |
| 00:06.19 | Nyle | icesword, you have tried any tunnel brokers for ipv6 yet? |
| 00:06.40 | icesword | no idea |
| 00:06.43 | lee___ | azeem: It works, now how do I get it to do that when it boots, before it tries to connect to ldap? |
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| 00:06.58 | azeem | auto rausb0 |
| 00:07.03 | ruinevil | greetings |
| 00:07.06 | azeem | somewhere in /e/n/i |
| 00:07.23 | ruinevil | is there a repository of .dsc files? |
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| 00:07.31 | ootput | udevinfo for a particular partition reveals two different subsystems: scsi, usb - each in its info block. Is it possible to use one or the other? |
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| 00:08.44 | lee___ | azeem: I'm scared, I actually knew what you meant by /e/n/i :P |
| 00:09.01 | azeem | lee___: you knew? |
| 00:09.19 | lee___ | azeem |
| 00:09.20 | azeem | ruinevil: /msg dpkg deb-src |
| 00:09.24 | lee___ | When I tried auto rausb0 |
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| 00:09.44 | lee___ | "Configuring network interfaces...Ingoring unknown interface rausb0=rausb0. done. |
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| 00:10.35 | Nyle | icesword, you do know what ipv6 is ? |
| 00:11.00 | Nyle | do you* |
| 00:11.10 | akio | it's the devil! |
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| 00:11.18 | akio | all hail tor! |
| 00:11.22 | icesword | it is like something ****.****.****.****.****.**** |
| 00:11.25 | foobar8 | akio: :-) |
| 00:11.26 | icesword | i think |
| 00:11.30 | Nyle | firefox 2.0.0.14 released |
| 00:11.35 | Wyzard | IPv6 isn't really related to Tor... |
| 00:11.41 | akio | i know |
| 00:11.41 | Nyle | nice |
| 00:11.52 | Nyle | hey Wyzard |
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| 00:11.59 | Wyzard | lee___: That means you probably don't have an entry for it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:12.01 | akio | i heard that ipv6 is hashed from your mac though |
| 00:12.09 | Nyle | ummmm? |
| 00:12.18 | lee___ | Wyzard: I have "auto rausb0" |
| 00:12.19 | zinx | akio: it can be |
| 00:12.20 | akio | and apparently there are enough of these addresses to never need another |
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| 00:12.22 | Wyzard | akio: Partly true: link-local IPv6 addresses are generated from MAC addresses |
| 00:12.29 | zinx | akio: but it doesn't have to be |
| 00:12.32 | Wyzard | lee___: "auto rausb0" just means "do ifup eth0 during bootup" |
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| 00:12.42 | zinx | Wyzard: no, any /64 can use autoconfiguration |
| 00:12.52 | icesword | Nyle, what is ipv6 |
| 00:12.52 | Wyzard | lee___: oops, "do ifup rausb0 during bootup" |
| 00:12.57 | akio | so that makes me paranoid when i download dragontales episodes |
| 00:13.03 | lee___ | Wyzard: I know :s |
| 00:13.06 | Nyle | icesword, 6th version of the IP protocol suite |
| 00:13.11 | Nyle | er.. |
| 00:13.21 | Nyle | did i just say internet protocol protocl suit |
| 00:13.23 | icesword | what is the ip adress |
| 00:13.26 | Wyzard | lee___: You still need an "iface rausb0..." stanza to tell ifup what to actually *do* |
| 00:13.37 | icesword | address |
| 00:13.40 | lee___ | Oh, whoops. |
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| 00:13.46 | WormFood | Good morning icesword...I just woke up...how are you doing today? |
| 00:13.54 | Wyzard | zinx: oops, you're right; I'm mixing things up |
| 00:13.59 | icesword | WormFood, hehe,nice |
| 00:14.01 | Nyle | hey food of the worms |
| 00:14.02 | Nyle | whats up man |
| 00:14.05 | Wyzard | Link-local is just a special prefix |
| 00:14.17 | Nyle | where is morning right now? |
| 00:14.20 | Nyle | germany? |
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| 00:14.42 | WormFood | Nyle, ä¸å½ |
| 00:14.43 | azeem | Nyle: no |
| 00:14.52 | Nyle | at this time morning would be breaking where |
| 00:15.04 | WormFood | I just told you Nyle |
| 00:15.08 | Nyle | not daytime, but like early morning |
| 00:15.12 | Nyle | WormFood, you told me two boxes |
| 00:15.15 | WormFood | it is 8:15 here |
| 00:15.23 | WormFood | China |
| 00:15.26 | Nyle | oh |
| 00:15.44 | icesword | hahaha,two boxes? |
| 00:15.50 | Nyle | I am on putty |
| 00:15.57 | Nyle | using FixedSys font, can't display that shit |
| 00:16.03 | Nyle | even though I have utf tranlation on |
| 00:16.32 | WormFood | Nyle, you can probably see it if you install the right fonts |
| 00:16.40 | Nyle | I am aware |
| 00:16.41 | Nyle | too lazy |
| 00:16.45 | Nyle | temprarily on windows |
| 00:17.01 | Nyle | in fact let me check |
| 00:17.20 | jim | the .dscs are part of source packages, they come in two or three files |
| 00:17.30 | Nyle | now generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-1-686 |
| 00:17.38 | Nyle | soon my debian box shall be ready for use |
| 00:18.22 | WormFood | Nyle, there is a checkbox on winblows to install asian character support...it is real easy |
| 00:18.41 | Nyle | WormFood, it requires me to get off my ass and fine the windows xp home cd |
| 00:18.47 | jim | this is your Nyle. This is your Nyle on putty. |
| 00:18.49 | Nyle | WormFood, see above. lazy. |
| 00:18.57 | Nyle | s/fine/find |
| 00:19.05 | Nyle | lol |
| 00:19.10 | Nyle | jim, :) |
| 00:19.15 | jim | Any questions? |
| 00:19.16 | icesword | Nyle, ipv6 |
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| 00:19.38 | Nyle | I shoulda made an iso of that windows cd |
| 00:19.49 | Nyle | use deamon tools or something and install asian text |
| 00:19.51 | pawbie | kicks his MSDNAA binder. |
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| 00:19.53 | icesword | Nyle, ipv6 address looks like ****.****.****.****.****.**** ,right |
| 00:19.58 | Nyle | icesword, that is correct |
| 00:20.11 | Nyle | icesword, look it up on wikipedia |
| 00:20.14 | pawbie | icesword: ...usually semicolon delimited..... |
| 00:20.18 | pawbie | er, colon |
| 00:20.30 | icesword | hhehe,i have seen some that sort address on irc |
| 00:20.40 | Nyle | freenode supports ipv6 |
| 00:20.54 | Nyle | you need to have either an isp that gives you ipv6, or a tunnerl broker |
| 00:21.03 | Nyle | but tunneling is slow ime |
| 00:21.08 | pawbie | ISP in the US with ipv6? |
| 00:21.11 | Nyle | at least freenode on ipv6 is laggy as hell |
| 00:21.21 | Nyle | for me |
| 00:21.22 | Nyle | anyway |
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| 00:22.39 | Wyzard | I've yet to find a single firewall package for Linux that supports IPv6 |
| 00:22.52 | cafuego | ip6tables does and works fine |
| 00:22.53 | Nyle | weh |
| 00:22.57 | Wyzard | FireHOL, Shorewall, etc. don't |
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| 00:26.44 | icesword | astro76, hiya |
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| 00:28.20 | astro76 | hi icesword |
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| 00:31.14 | Nyle | wget http://www.xakep.ru/post/13889/paul_oakenfold-_hypnotised.mp3 |
| 00:31.17 | Nyle | doh |
| 00:31.20 | Nyle | my bad |
| 00:33.26 | pawbie | wget and I aren't getting along at the moment. |
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| 00:36.27 | jim | misunderstanding? |
| 00:36.37 | pawbie | Yes. |
| 00:36.53 | pawbie | wget seems to think the issue is behind the keyboard. |
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| 00:39.40 | zeitsofas | did anybody have a idea i can use shutdown and reboot from my enlightenment ? |
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| 00:41.41 | lastnode | zeitsofas: man shutdown, man reboot |
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| 00:42.51 | pawbie | I blame it all on MS. |
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| 00:43.40 | Lagbolt | hey anyone know a good howto for installing bootable debian on usb key with a chroot? |
| 00:44.00 | pawbie | Isn't there a thumbdrivelinux.com ? |
| 00:44.10 | icesword | pendrive |
| 00:45.09 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 00:45.09 | dpkg | i heard usb install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: Details in the Installation Guide http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/ch04s04.html.en , see "usb stick" section http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. (Older, outdated articles http://d-i.pascal.at/ and http://wiki.debian.org/USB-HD_Boot_Full_Debian) |
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| 00:45.54 | pawbie | I want wubi to go RC. |
| 00:46.02 | zinx | Lagbolt: any reason you need to use a chroot? |
| 00:46.24 | Lagbolt | was just curious, i found some sites doing it that way and encrypting it |
| 00:46.46 | Lagbolt | just wanted to try it out |
| 00:46.55 | icesword | pawbie, isn't there is a setup.exe in debian.iso,is that one wubi |
| 00:46.57 | zinx | Lagbolt: i have it installed non-encrypted on a flash drive.. just installed it the normal way.. you could presumably also use debootstrap or something |
| 00:47.07 | Lagbolt | yeah i did debootstrap |
| 00:47.19 | Lagbolt | just need to get all the necesary packages and what not to get it to boot properly |
| 00:47.59 | zinx | Lagbolt: installing it the more-or-less normal way.. didn't require such trickery :/ |
| 00:48.02 | pawbie | icesword: I don't know, is there? I think the wubi site gives you Xubuntu. |
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| 00:48.16 | Lagbolt | lol zink_ yeah i installed to an sdhc that way |
| 00:48.20 | icesword | pawbie, yes, i think so |
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| 00:48.28 | Lagbolt | jsust wanted to play with debootstrap, not much experience with it |
| 00:48.39 | abrotman | Lagbolt: you can do that in a chroot anywhere |
| 00:48.40 | pawbie | Sweet. I have an Etch DVD somewhere. I'll check it when I get home. |
| 00:49.46 | zeitsofas | lastnode hmm i try it with shutdown.allow but enlightenment dosnt shutdown i'm back on xdm login :( |
| 00:49.47 | Lagbolt | yeah i got the chroot to work. . . . but to make it bootable requires a lil extra work. it has grub and boots just hangs somewhere. was really late last night and i just stopped so going to boot it in a virtual machine and try to work on it |
| 00:49.53 | Lagbolt | just thought maybe there was a nice link |
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| 00:51.22 | lastnode | zeitsofas: in a cli, 'man shutdown' |
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| 00:56.10 | zeitsofas | lastnode i read it 3 times but i cant find anything to fix that problem :/ |
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| 01:13.32 | grim | anyone have any pointers for helping to finish up an itp that hasn't been touched in over a month? |
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| 01:14.25 | abrotman | append the bug .. ask about the progress .. FWIW .. some ITPs take years |
| 01:14.27 | azeem | grim: eh? |
| 01:15.03 | grim | abrotman: well the last activity is me pinging... i have no problems finishing it up, but i have no sponsor and no idea how this all works :) |
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| 01:15.15 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 01:15.15 | dpkg | mentors is, like, the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. Also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/, #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, and http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 01:15.17 | abrotman | find a sponsor |
| 01:15.26 | azeem | grim: which bug number? |
| 01:15.39 | grim | azeem: 464848 |
| 01:15.48 | azeem | !dbugs 464848 |
| 01:15.51 | dpkg | #464848:W[wnpp] ITP: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome -- Improved Xorg video driver for VIA UniChrome graphics chipsets; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:12:02 UTC |
| 01:15.51 | grim | abrotman: thanks |
| 01:15.59 | azeem | uh-oh |
| 01:16.00 | RotnApple | what is a good mp3 encoder? |
| 01:16.08 | grim | azeem: ? |
| 01:16.14 | RotnApple | due to patents it debian cannot release a package? |
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| 01:17.17 | azeem | grim: X drivers are team-maintaind |
| 01:17.21 | azeem | maintained* |
| 01:17.26 | azeem | by the X strike force |
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| 01:17.38 | grim | azeem: even out of tree drivers? |
| 01:17.47 | akio | next time somebody says something about group 46, its plugdev |
| 01:18.01 | azeem | grim: the other messages are talking about importing it into the git, no? |
| 01:18.12 | grim | azeem: yes |
| 01:18.23 | azeem | so yeah, I guess |
| 01:20.44 | azeem | grim: maybe try to ask again in #debian-x on irc.debian.org |
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| 01:21.13 | azeem | grim: if you really want to help out and not just use the thing, that is |
| 01:21.20 | grim | that's no longer a freenode server (i know it was back in the day...) |
| 01:21.30 | azeem | that's correct |
| 01:21.43 | azeem | otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered to spell out the network |
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| 01:22.41 | grim | azeem: well i'm at a point where i get the driver working for me or i buy a separate video card and play the waiting game. I've been using the svn for openchrome, and it works, but it's buggy so elisa doesn't display correctly. Ideally, i or someone with more time with fix that, but in the mean time i'd like to remove buildessentials from my htpc :) |
| 01:23.32 | grim | ack, that's just oftc which i'm already on ;) |
| 01:23.32 | azeem | grim: I really suggest you talk to the folks at #debian-x over there |
| 01:23.37 | azeem | indeed |
| 01:25.18 | grim | azeem: cool, thanks for the pointers |
| 01:25.45 | azeem | grim: no guarantee that any of them is awake right now, I think most of them are in Europe |
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| 01:26.06 | grim | azeem: 'eh i can idle ;) |
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| 01:38.25 | Haris | People! |
| 01:38.26 | Haris | I have a list in /etc/grub/menu.lst. I can't figure out which one is numbered which. The man grub and info grub are not much help. Need some insight into this. I was going through the grub manual ( http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Menu_002dspecific-commands ). Can't make out anything about numbering or configuring the options in menu.lst file |
| 01:38.31 | Haris | oops |
| 01:38.44 | Haris | that's /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 01:39.11 | azeem | they are numbered sequentially, starting with 0 |
| 01:39.49 | Haris | The first in the list from top to bottom uses a newer kernel I installed. When I rebooted, its booted with the old kernel |
| 01:39.50 | magyar | hi, how can i force a /var/log/syslog rotation? |
| 01:40.12 | Haris | the last option in the list (from top to bottom) is the option which it seems to have numbered 0 |
| 01:40.56 | Haris | magyar: make a logrotate config file. man logrotate. Then run logrotate -v -f /path/to/logrotate/config/file |
| 01:41.24 | dondelelcaro | magyar: just run logrotate -f if you need to |
| 01:41.31 | magyar | Haris: "Segmentation fault" the file is 800MB |
| 01:41.40 | Haris | for example make /etc/logrotate.d/syslog (man logrotate for more on what to put in it) and then use logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/syslog |
| 01:41.43 | dondelelcaro | magyar: uh... what version of logrotate is this? |
| 01:41.54 | magyar | dondelelcaro: etch |
| 01:41.57 | Haris | magyar: I'v rotated a log file of size 57 GB |
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| 01:42.01 | Haris | :-) |
| 01:42.30 | dondelelcaro | magyar: it should work fine, even with gigantic files |
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| 01:42.57 | dondelelcaro | magyar: so if you're getting a segfault, I first suggest reinstalling it, then if it happens again, get a backtrace |
| 01:43.00 | _ZeuZ_ | does anybody know an IRC channel for metasploit? don't want to install the SILC client.. |
| 01:43.09 | magyar | dondelelcaro: "logrotate -f /var/log/syslog" "Segmentation fault" |
| 01:43.17 | Tramp | Isn't it /etc/cron.dails/sysklogd for syslog-logfiles? |
| 01:43.22 | Haris | magyar: use it with -v to get verbose output |
| 01:43.34 | Haris | that should give you some clue on what's going on |
| 01:43.52 | _ZeuZ_ | !silc |
| 01:43.53 | dpkg | hmm... silc is Secure Internet Live Conferencing, IRC with encryption in short, see http://silc.pspt.fi/, or http://www.silcnet.org/ |
| 01:43.54 | Shadow_mil | what codec do you need to be able to play ogm files in mplayer |
| 01:44.07 | magyar | Haris: no matter what i do i get "Segmentation fault" |
| 01:44.11 | Haris | Tramp: Yes, when done through cron |
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| 01:44.40 | Haris | well |
| 01:44.49 | Haris | I would remove and reinstall logrotate |
| 01:44.59 | Haris | at this point, unless there was another way to get more info out of it |
| 01:45.26 | Tramp | I would run /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd |
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| 01:45.40 | benedikt | does tar follow symlinks with -cvvf? |
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| 01:47.37 | magyar | Tramp: that did the trick, why didn't it rotate for the past one month? |
| 01:47.51 | Haris | looks like MSN found out about Skype's ability to be signed in at multiple places :p |
| 01:48.07 | benedikt | Haris: what? is that possible in the msn protocol now? |
| 01:48.08 | Tramp | magyar: .... in doubt I blame anacron. - or is your cron running? |
| 01:48.25 | Haris | hmm.. the sysklogd cron.daily script doens't use logrotate |
| 01:48.31 | Tramp | magyar: ps -ef | grep cron |
| 01:48.40 | Tramp | Haris: that's what I just mentioned |
| 01:48.41 | Haris | benedikt: I'm logged in at multiple places ;-) |
| 01:48.46 | Haris | got the message from the IM |
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| 01:48.48 | dondelelcaro | magyar: uh... /var/log/syslog isn't a configuration file. |
| 01:48.52 | benedikt | Haris: with a free client or the offical one? |
| 01:49.01 | dondelelcaro | magyar: you want logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf; or similar. |
| 01:49.05 | Haris | The Windows live messenger |
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| 01:49.13 | Haris | I don't know which is free or official |
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| 01:49.19 | benedikt | Probably isnt possible yet with amsn or gaim |
| 01:49.22 | benedikt | sorry.. pidgin |
| 01:49.29 | Tramp | dondelelcaro: why? the cron script uses savelog, iirc. |
| 01:49.33 | Haris | well, skype has this ability |
| 01:49.42 | Haris | and MSN clearly had to have it to stick in business |
| 01:49.52 | dondelelcaro | Tramp: huh? |
| 01:49.54 | Tramp | dondelelcaro: I never understood, why debian uses different mechanisms for syslog-logs and other logs |
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| 01:50.18 | benedikt | Haris: the only good thing about msn is that almost everybody uses it |
| 01:50.21 | Tramp | dondelelcaro: /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd does not use logrotate |
| 01:50.32 | benedikt | its like toilet paper |
| 01:50.49 | Tramp | dondelelcaro: for whatever reasons - probably historical ones. |
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| 01:50.52 | dondelelcaro | Tramp: if you're using sysklogd, sure |
| 01:51.17 | Haris | Tramp: Well, anyone can use anything they like |
| 01:51.27 | dondelelcaro | (however, using syslog-ng, rsyslog are often more useful) |
| 01:51.56 | Tramp | dondelelcaro: logs=$(syslogd-listfiles) ... for logs: savelog -g adm -m 640 -u root -c 7 $LOG >/dev/null - that's my sysklogd cron script (basically) |
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| 01:52.21 | Haris | # aptitude show rsyslog |
| 01:52.21 | Haris | E: Unable to locate package rsyslog |
| 01:52.51 | benedikt | so.. anybody know if tar -cvvf would also tar the things that symlinks point to? |
| 01:53.03 | Haris | Tramp: savelog and logrotate, both work. They both get the job done. Don't get excited *laugh* |
| 01:53.09 | Tramp | Haris: yes. But it is confusing, that logrotating is done through different mechanisms |
| 01:53.16 | Haris | different? |
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| 01:54.02 | Tramp | Haris: yes. logrotate uses logrotate.conf, savelog uses a list of files generated through some obscure command. completely different mechanisms |
| 01:54.12 | Haris | benedikt: -vv is for verbose, I suppose anf -f is what file to use to archive whatever you are archiving. It doesn't tell tar to follow symlinks |
| 01:54.21 | Haris | benedikt: try it and see =) |
| 01:54.46 | benedikt | Haris: its too late and my bed looks too promising for any messing around |
| 01:54.51 | benedikt | and thanks |
| 01:55.05 | benedikt | ive never been able to figure out why there are two v's though |
| 01:55.08 | Haris | for me logrotate is much simpler. I tell it what to do, and I set the options. It gets the job done with those options. That's good enough for me. I don't want to get into obscure stuff |
| 01:55.30 | Haris | more verbosity! as I gather |
| 01:55.34 | Haris | like with tcpdump |
| 01:55.52 | Haris | you can go from -v to -vvv to get more and more details |
| 01:55.57 | benedikt | aah |
| 01:56.15 | benedikt | makes a mental note to try that on tcpdump |
| 01:56.30 | Shadow_mil | How can I upgrade ONE package to the version in unstable? |
| 01:56.43 | Penix | Shadow_mil: you don't. /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 01:56.45 | abrotman | !tell Shadow_mil about ssb |
| 01:57.04 | benedikt | Penix: nice nick. |
| 01:57.08 | Shadow_mil | There is a issue in mplayer, and the mplayer people are telling me upgrading will fix it |
| 01:57.21 | benedikt | Shadow_mil: compile from source |
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| 01:57.33 | Haris | you can use ssb |
| 01:57.38 | benedikt | i have a vague memory of the mplayer sources being large though |
| 01:57.40 | Haris | I found another way to it as well :-) |
| 01:57.50 | Haris | well, much like an extension of ssb |
| 01:58.28 | Haris | I put deb-src for sid in sources.list and used the package name from sid with aptitude and it was installed :-) |
| 01:58.41 | benedikt | is off to the bed |
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| 02:00.04 | Baldwingd | salut |
| 02:00.35 | Shadow_mil | for the ssid, would I put "lenny" or "unstable" |
| 02:00.49 | Haris | unstable |
| 02:00.57 | Haris | !sid |
| 02:00.57 | dpkg | methinks sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>" |
| 02:01.00 | simonrvn | Baldwingd: kwe kwe |
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| 02:03.45 | Haris | anyone on grub? |
| 02:03.50 | Shadow_mil | Haris, ok, so Ill keep all the source I have now.... and just add the sid... |
| 02:04.00 | Shadow_mil | is scared, never done this before |
| 02:04.25 | Shadow_mil | aptitude won't like... try to update my entire system to unstable will it? |
| 02:04.41 | abrotman | Shadow_mil: show us your sources.list before you do anything else |
| 02:04.46 | Penix | Shadow_mil: not if you do what we told you, which is build a sid package against your etch system |
| 02:04.48 | abrotman | simonrvn: you scared him! |
| 02:05.08 | simonrvn | heh. i'm used to it |
| 02:05.25 | abrotman | it's the hair |
| 02:05.36 | abrotman | or your former employer! |
| 02:05.41 | Penix | not pointy, I hope |
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| 02:06.22 | streuner_ | looks abrotman deep in the eyes: "Hey, listen to me and do what i tell YOU" |
| 02:06.32 | new2it | where can I found out how to set up the network on a new debian box? |
| 02:06.33 | Xenguy | .oO(The Illuminati? :-) |
| 02:06.44 | abrotman | !interfaces |
| 02:06.44 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client> read "man resolv.conf" for DNS also ask me about <static route> |
| 02:06.57 | abrotman | streuner_: you're creeping me out .. stop listening to The Hoff |
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| 02:07.31 | new2it | that tells me how to do it, what I want is the manual that tels me how to find that out. |
| 02:07.47 | streuner_ | abrotman: who? "the hoff" - do you talk about David? ;-) |
| 02:08.01 | abrotman | new2it: man 5 interfaces |
| 02:08.19 | abrotman | like it tells you |
| 02:08.25 | simonrvn | my former employer? canada post? |
| 02:08.35 | Shadow_mil | ok |
| 02:08.36 | Shadow_mil | http://pastebin.ca/upload.php |
| 02:08.40 | Shadow_mil | whoops |
| 02:08.42 | Shadow_mil | one sec |
| 02:08.44 | abrotman | try again |
| 02:08.50 | Shadow_mil | http://pastebin.ca/987897 |
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| 02:08.54 | abrotman | simonrvn: no .. the employer of your alter-ego |
| 02:09.10 | Penix | Shadow_mil: unstable main, not just unstable |
| 02:09.11 | abrotman | Shadow_mil: that should work |
| 02:09.14 | new2it | I want to "RTFM" but need to find the FM. any sugesstions on a good how-to? |
| 02:09.14 | abrotman | oh .. whoops |
| 02:09.19 | Shadow_mil | :\ |
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| 02:09.20 | Shadow_mil | lol |
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| 02:09.30 | simonrvn | oh, ick. i doubt it's that =) |
| 02:09.32 | abrotman | new2it: you want to know how we know that man 5 interfaces is where to look ? |
| 02:09.51 | abrotman | new2it: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/ |
| 02:09.56 | new2it | yes, I can use man if I knwo what to look for |
| 02:09.56 | abrotman | !tell new2it about grounding |
| 02:09.58 | Shadow_mil | ok, I added main, I thought that deb was for binaries and deb-src was for source code? |
| 02:10.14 | Penix | Shadow_mil: yes, it is |
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| 02:10.18 | Penix | Shadow_mil: you don't want a binary |
| 02:10.35 | Shadow_mil | So Ill have to compile mplayer? |
| 02:10.43 | Haris | the last entry in menu.lst to go with the savedefault becomes 0 ? |
| 02:10.44 | Penix | Shadow_mil: yes. that's what we told you from the start |
| 02:10.55 | Shadow_mil | ok |
| 02:10.58 | Penix | Shadow_mil: installing a sid package on an etch system will break it horribly |
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| 02:11.17 | Shadow_mil | Oh I see |
| 02:11.23 | Shadow_mil | ok... /me understands now |
| 02:11.25 | Shadow_mil | :) |
| 02:11.25 | abrotman | i thought mplayer was in etch |
| 02:11.32 | mooze | hey guys - i have an issue with my PCI express card... |
| 02:11.33 | Penix | wants a newer version IIRC |
| 02:11.38 | Shadow_mil | abrotman, I need a newer version |
| 02:11.46 | abrotman | need? |
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| 02:12.03 | Shadow_mil | abrotman, #mplayer people say I can't play ogm files in this version without having a huge headache. |
| 02:12.11 | abrotman | i'm sure they would |
| 02:12.20 | Shadow_mil | abrotman, told me if I upgrade it would fix the issue |
| 02:12.25 | abrotman | Shadow_mil: /msg dpkg dmm .. i think marillat has newer packages |
| 02:12.28 | linux_jones | so if i install just what is on the net install cds, would i be able to apt-get anything else i would need from there? in order to build the smallest system possible |
| 02:12.34 | Akuw | i change /etc/profile and add this ---> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java, export CATALINA_HOME=/usr/share/tomcat |
| 02:12.46 | Penix | linux_jones: that's the idea |
| 02:12.47 | Shadow_mil | abrotman, Ill just build it from source |
| 02:12.52 | abrotman | whatever you want ... |
| 02:12.54 | Shadow_mil | abrotman, its not a big deal |
| 02:12.56 | Shadow_mil | lol |
| 02:12.57 | abrotman | it is |
| 02:13.08 | Haris | why aren't the shutdown time messages log into syslog, daemon log or /var/log/syslog ? |
| 02:13.09 | Akuw | but when i type java that no work properly, so i have to use ./java |
| 02:13.17 | Haris | logged+ into |
| 02:13.33 | mooze | you need to have JAVA_HOME/bin in your PATH |
| 02:13.40 | Penix | Akuw: well, is the 'java' binary in /usr/share/java? |
| 02:13.45 | mooze | Akuw: you need to have JAVA_HOME/bin in your path |
| 02:13.46 | Akuw | yeah |
| 02:13.51 | linux_jones | Penix, i mean, without actually doing the net install, just the "base system" thats on the cd, sorry if this is a stupid question, i have just never tried it |
| 02:14.20 | simonrvn | afk |
| 02:14.23 | mooze | Akuw: do a java --version and check its the correct binary... |
| 02:14.41 | Akuw | but i have to reload profile file? |
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| 02:15.06 | Shadow_mil | sudo aptitude build-dep mplayer I followed the guide, but its giving me issues, saying it does not understand build-dep? |
| 02:15.06 | Penix | linux_jones: yes, you can do that. I believe it'll grab updates etc. if you specify a mirror |
| 02:15.13 | mooze | Akuw: yup - easy way to do it is to source it |
| 02:15.14 | Penix | from within the installer |
| 02:15.25 | mooze | Akuw: or you could just restart your console session |
| 02:15.48 | new2it | abortmon: Thanks for the link, Ill have to look at it later b/c my net link is flaking out and wont load it. x-b |
| 02:16.19 | linux_jones | nice, i have a new tv tuner card, and my computer is a little slugish, so im hoping if i do that and install only what i need it will run better, does that seem insane to anyone? or would anyone know if this will make any problems for me |
| 02:16.20 | Akuw | i close all console windows |
| 02:16.25 | Akuw | but is the same |
| 02:16.28 | mooze | hey anyone hear intimate with the hotplug system? |
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| 02:16.50 | mooze | Akuw: whats the "incorrect" behavior you are noticing... |
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| 02:17.12 | Penix | Akuw: ok. for a start, wth is /usr/share/java? why are you pointing JAVA_HOME to that? where did /usr/share/java come from? |
| 02:17.13 | mooze | Akuw: it would also be worth to check the java version using the command 'java --version' |
| 02:17.21 | Shadow_mil | oh its apt-get build-dep |
| 02:17.25 | Penix | Akuw: that's not where binaries are stored for anything |
| 02:17.35 | Haris | hmm |
| 02:17.43 | Haris | I still am booting with the old kernel |
| 02:17.45 | Penix | Akuw: and how did you install java? proper package? official sun bin installer? |
| 02:17.49 | Akuw | i download from sun |
| 02:18.00 | Akuw | .bin |
| 02:18.02 | Penix | Akuw: figure out where you told their installer to extract the jre/jdk to then |
| 02:18.06 | Shadow_mil | http://pastebin.ca/987905 |
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| 02:18.12 | Shadow_mil | How do I resolve this? |
| 02:18.15 | Penix | Akuw: and point JAVA_HOME there, or add the bin/ dir to your path |
| 02:18.22 | mooze | Penix: i think he installed it to /usr/share/java |
| 02:18.31 | Penix | stupid idea |
| 02:18.38 | Akuw | i put it in /usr/share/java |
| 02:18.47 | Penix | Akuw: don't next time. stick it in /usr/local or something |
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| 02:19.11 | Penix | Akuw: anyway, look inside the dir that the jre's installed to (/usr/share/java). there'll be either a 'bin' or jre/bin' dir |
| 02:19.14 | Akuw | i am installed an application and it request to do it so |
| 02:19.14 | mooze | Akuw: so is your JAVA_HOME/bin in the PATH? |
| 02:19.17 | Penix | Akuw: that's where everything is |
| 02:19.25 | Shadow_mil | Penix, any idea? |
| 02:19.40 | Shadow_mil | ideas* |
| 02:19.45 | Akuw | java version "1.5.0_15" |
| 02:20.05 | mooze | so your java is setup correctly |
| 02:20.11 | Penix | Shadow_mil: it's depending on a version of libtheora-dev that's not in etch |
| 02:20.15 | Akuw | JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java/bin |
| 02:20.25 | mooze | Akuw: aha! thats the problem |
| 02:20.38 | mooze | Akuw: JAVA_HOME should only point to /usr/share/java |
| 02:20.58 | mooze | Akuw: and then setup your PATH as PATH:JAVA_HOME/bin |
| 02:21.30 | Penix | Shadow_mil: which particular version of mplayer are you trying to build? |
| 02:21.40 | Shadow_mil | Penix, I need rc2 |
| 02:22.11 | Akuw | like this JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java |
| 02:22.11 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.13 | streuner_ | What's about xine-u, doesnt that work too? |
| 02:22.21 | streuner_ | xine-ui |
| 02:22.33 | Penix | bleh, might as well use vlc |
| 02:22.35 | mooze | Akuw: yup |
| 02:22.37 | Penix | !smite xine |
| 02:22.37 | dpkg | smites xine with a plague of punctuation characters |
| 02:22.55 | Akuw | ok, now i just close the console windows and open again? |
| 02:22.59 | Penix | Shadow_mil: I've found an rc2 package for etch |
| 02:23.01 | mooze | Akuw: i suspect the issue you're facing is starting tomcat? |
| 02:23.15 | Shadow_mil | Penix, where? |
| 02:23.22 | Akuw | yeah |
| 02:23.34 | Akuw | export JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java |
| 02:23.34 | Akuw | export CATALINA_HOME=/usr/share/tomcat |
| 02:23.41 | Penix | Shadow_mil: I'm not too sure about it, but you could atleast try building from their sources if the packages don't work |
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| 02:23.47 | Penix | Shadow_mil: http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch-backport/ |
| 02:23.52 | mooze | Akuw: thats good |
| 02:24.16 | Akuw | when i type java i got this ---> Usage: gij [OPTION] ... CLASS [ARGS] ... |
| 02:24.24 | mooze | Akuw: if that doesn't work - check and add JAVA_HOME/bin to your PATH variable... |
| 02:24.28 | Akuw | no taking profile |
| 02:24.43 | mooze | Akuw: that is because JAVA_HOME/bin is not in your path |
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| 02:24.56 | Penix | Akuw: you do know there are proper sun java packages available these days, right? |
| 02:25.09 | Penix | apt-get install sun-java5-jre |
| 02:25.11 | Akuw | ?? |
| 02:25.14 | Akuw | hummm |
| 02:25.15 | Penix | once you've enabled non-free |
| 02:25.24 | mooze | Akuw: also - you need it to preced your reg path coz you have not installed java in the regular loc |
| 02:25.31 | Shadow_mil | Penix, Ill have to -_- |
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| 02:25.44 | Shadow_mil | Penix, libtheora0_1.0~beta2-1_amd64.deb |
| 02:25.52 | mooze | Penix: jre wont work for him coz tomcat needs the javac for compiling JSPs |
| 02:25.56 | Akuw | ok, i have this if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then |
| 02:25.56 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.56 | Akuw | else |
| 02:25.56 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.56 | Akuw | fi |
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| 02:25.58 | Penix | Shadow_mil: that's not the -dev package |
| 02:26.14 | Shadow_mil | libtheora-dev_1.0~beta2-1_amd64.deb |
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| 02:26.21 | Akuw | sorry |
| 02:26.27 | Penix | Shadow_mil: try their packages first. they should work |
| 02:26.33 | Shadow_mil | They don't have i386 for the libtheora |
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| 02:26.41 | Penix | but if not, their source tarballs etc. should be right to go on an etch system |
| 02:26.44 | Penix | oh. ok |
| 02:26.48 | mooze | Akuw: you have two options |
| 02:26.58 | Akuw | http://rafb.net/p/TrWExn15.html |
| 02:27.07 | Akuw | where i ave to put what you said? |
| 02:27.19 | Wyzard | jdk is packaged too |
| 02:27.24 | mooze | Akuw: create a symlink to replace the existing java (discouraged) OR precede your JAVA_HOME/bin statement before /usr/local & usr/bin |
| 02:27.50 | Wyzard | apt-get install sun-java5-jdk |
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| 02:27.54 | abrotman | mooze: stop already |
| 02:27.57 | Penix | yeah. it'll save loads of hassle |
| 02:28.06 | Shadow_mil | [ ] Sources.gz 19-Nov-2007 16:06 1k I don't think the source is in the tarball |
| 02:28.15 | Penix | Shadow_mil: what? |
| 02:28.23 | Penix | Shadow_mil: http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch-backport/mplayer_1.0~rc2.orig.tar.gz |
| 02:28.27 | Penix | that's the source |
| 02:28.28 | mooze | hey Wyzard... |
| 02:28.37 | mooze | abrotman: stopped :) |
| 02:28.56 | mooze | Wyzard: got the new kernel working and also got the card to work |
| 02:29.06 | mooze | Wyzard: got an issue though |
| 02:29.11 | Wyzard | mooze: cool, though you didn't need the new kernel |
| 02:29.35 | Wyzard | mooze: and I'd recommend against custom-building one if you're not experienced at doing so |
| 02:29.44 | mooze | Wyzard: no - needed a newer kernel - built the ata support n everything |
| 02:29.45 | Penix | Shadow_mil: you'll need to add that repo to your sources.list like you did with the sid one, then apt-get update and apt-get build-dep etc. |
| 02:30.02 | mooze | Wyzard: got the chipset info for the card after connecting it and booting with the netinst cd |
| 02:30.20 | Wyzard | mooze: The packaged 2.6.18 already supported your SATA controller -- it worked in the installer, right? |
| 02:30.37 | Akuw | now i have this http://rafb.net/p/MXRypm26.html |
| 02:30.54 | Shadow_mil | Penix, I can't just download it and build it from there? |
| 02:30.59 | Penix | Akuw: just *give* *up* |
| 02:30.59 | mooze | Wyzard: yeah - but my guess is the modules for it didn't get installed or sumething coz when i bootup with the stock - the things doesn't get detected |
| 02:31.04 | Penix | Akuw: install sun-java5-jdk |
| 02:31.08 | abrotman | mooze: same kernel |
| 02:31.11 | Wyzard | Akuw: Stop screwing with your path and just install the supported JDK package |
| 02:31.40 | Wyzard | mooze: What driver does the controller use? |
| 02:31.48 | Penix | Shadow_mil: you can, by extracting the source tarball and applying the diff |
| 02:32.00 | Akuw | source please ? |
| 02:32.05 | Shadow_mil | alright... forget that |
| 02:32.07 | abrotman | !tell Akuw about install java |
| 02:32.10 | abrotman | !tell Akuw about contrib |
| 02:32.14 | abrotman | !tell Akuw about non-free |
| 02:32.14 | Penix | non-free |
| 02:32.17 | abrotman | !tell Akuw about sources.list |
| 02:32.18 | mooze | Wyzard: lemme grab that info |
| 02:32.19 | abrotman | Penix: I KNOW! |
| 02:32.21 | Penix | hehe |
| 02:32.28 | Shadow_mil | so I would just do: deb-src http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch-backport/ etch main |
| 02:32.31 | Shadow_mil | Add that? |
| 02:32.35 | Penix | Akuw: there you go. have fun |
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| 02:32.55 | mooze | Wyzard: sata_sil24 <-- thats the module i had to compile... |
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| 02:33.09 | Penix | Shadow_mil: probably need to be './ main' instead of 'etch main' |
| 02:33.29 | Wyzard | mooze: Does /lib/modules/2.6.18-*/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil24.ko exist? |
| 02:33.42 | Penix | Shadow_mil: then do the same as you would using the sid sources |
| 02:33.56 | Shadow_mil | Penix, then, after that, can I remove deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main or do I still need that? |
| 02:34.06 | abrotman | removce it |
| 02:34.08 | Penix | Shadow_mil: you shouldn't need it |
| 02:34.11 | Shadow_mil | ok |
| 02:34.34 | mooze | Wyzard: nupes |
| 02:34.43 | Wyzard | mooze: What's in your /lib/modules directory? |
| 02:35.13 | Shadow_mil | E: Malformed line 17 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (absolute dist) |
| 02:35.25 | Shadow_mil | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.28 | Penix | heh. maybe I'm falling behind the times ;) |
| 02:35.52 | mooze | Wyzard: directories 4 the stock & my new kernel |
| 02:36.14 | Wyzard | mooze: What's the name of the directory for the stock kernel? |
| 02:36.19 | Penix | Shadow_mil: take off main |
| 02:36.21 | Shadow_mil | Penix, maybe deb-src http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/ etch-backport main will work? |
| 02:36.24 | Shadow_mil | ok |
| 02:36.27 | Penix | Shadow_mil: http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/README.txt |
| 02:36.34 | mooze | Wyzard: 2.6.18-4-686 |
| 02:37.04 | Akuw | damm |
| 02:37.22 | Shadow_mil | Penix, would I also use deb instead of deb-src? |
| 02:37.37 | Wyzard | mooze: Under that directory you should have kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil24.ko |
| 02:37.45 | Penix | Shadow_mil: only if you want to try installing their binaries. deb-src if you want to build their package from source |
| 02:37.46 | Wyzard | mooze: If that's missing, how much of the path does exist? |
| 02:38.02 | mooze | Wyzard: got the path till scsi - also got a couple of .ko files... |
| 02:38.02 | Wyzard | mooze: btw, that kernel has been superseded by security updates -- 2.6.18-6-686 is current |
| 02:38.19 | abrotman | !find sata_sil24.ko etch |
| 02:38.20 | mooze | Wyzard: jsut not that one |
| 02:38.25 | Wyzard | mooze: hmm, maybe the -4 kernel omitted sata_sil24 |
| 02:38.29 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'sata_sil24.ko' (3 of 9): (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-k7/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil24.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.18-6-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-486/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil24.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil24.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.18-6-686. |
| 02:38.35 | Wyzard | mooze: Upgrade to the -6 one and check again |
| 02:38.35 | abrotman | can i have a prize? :) |
| 02:38.38 | Shadow_mil | W: GPG error: http://tonelli.sns.it ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F41FED8E33FC40A4 |
| 02:38.42 | Shadow_mil | Will this be a issue? |
| 02:38.55 | Penix | Shadow_mil: not for now |
| 02:38.58 | Shadow_mil | ok |
| 02:39.04 | mooze | Wyzard: anyway - thats no longer the issue, like i said - got my hdd detected with the new kern |
| 02:39.29 | Shadow_mil | Penix, ok... its claiming its installing rc2 :) |
| 02:39.38 | mooze | Wyzard: i'll upgrade to -6 later - just dont wanna reboot right now... anyway - the issue now is that if the card is connected at boot time it gets detected |
| 02:39.39 | Wyzard | mooze: Right, but your current solution isn't really the preferred one |
| 02:39.57 | Akuw | i just want to know how reload profile |
| 02:39.57 | mooze | Wyzard: but if i connect it to an already booted system - no activity... |
| 02:40.02 | Shadow_mil | Penix, you better not had put a virus up on this source ;) Ill kick your ass if I find out you did |
| 02:40.11 | Penix | Shadow_mil: heh. not my repo |
| 02:40.23 | Wyzard | mooze: Since you're not experienced with building custom kernels, the one you've built now may be working currently but you could run into other problems down the road |
| 02:40.24 | mooze | Wyzard: i'll do like the books say :) just dont wanna reboot... |
| 02:40.29 | abrotman | Akuw: install the correct java |
| 02:40.36 | Shadow_mil | Penix, Fine, Ill kick you'res and the repo's owner ass |
| 02:40.41 | Wyzard | mooze: other drivers accidentally left out (like you accidentally left out libata before), etc. |
| 02:40.47 | abrotman | yours ? |
| 02:40.48 | damog | stew: you've got mail. |
| 02:40.51 | Penix | Shadow_mil: the maintainer is a known Debian contributor |
| 02:40.59 | mooze | Wyzard: ;) got it... :D |
| 02:41.08 | abrotman | damOL ? |
| 02:41.33 | Penix | Shadow_mil: only thing you need to worry about is if rc2 actually fixes your problem. go kick the mplayer team's arse if not ;) |
| 02:41.34 | mooze | Wyzard: but any ideas on why when i connect the card to a booted system it doesn't work? or should i give it a shot with the -6 kern? |
| 02:41.48 | Wyzard | mooze: sounds like hotplug isn't working for your ExpressCard slot |
| 02:42.04 | Wyzard | mooze: could be that some necessary compile-time setting was left out, or it could be something else |
| 02:42.07 | Shadow_mil | Penix, mplayer is normally pretty good. They said the issue is that the file format is newer then rc1 |
| 02:42.21 | mooze | did an lsmod - got the pciehp module loaded - thats the module for hotplug... |
| 02:42.27 | Wyzard | mooze: I'd try the -6 kernel, but if that doesn't help then I don't know; I don't have any hands-on experience with PCI hotplug (aside from CardBus) |
| 02:42.32 | Akuw | have you any repository ? |
| 02:42.39 | abrotman | WE ALREADY TOLD YOU |
| 02:42.50 | Penix | haha |
| 02:42.58 | streuner_ | hehe |
| 02:42.58 | abrotman | like 12 freaking times |
| 02:43.04 | mooze | Wyzard: okie - will try that... |
| 02:43.11 | Akuw | damm, don get angry man |
| 02:43.16 | Penix | Akuw: then listen to us |
| 02:43.19 | Penix | Akuw: and follow instructions |
| 02:43.23 | abrotman | or at least pretend |
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| 02:44.27 | Akuw | i follow the instructions, but it give aeerors when i put that in sources.list |
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| 02:44.53 | Akuw | but don't worry, i will find by myself |
| 02:44.56 | Akuw | thanks |
| 02:45.00 | abrotman | what kind of errors? "I REFUSE TO MAKE EGGS" ? |
| 02:45.15 | abrotman | if you don't show us the errors, we can't help |
| 02:45.25 | streuner_ | !doesn't work |
| 02:45.26 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 02:45.41 | abrotman | see .. streuner_ doesn't work .. but he's on gov't cheese! |
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| 02:46.15 | Akuw | first, you have to give the repository address, you put a lot of info there |
| 02:46.31 | abrotman | show us the error |
| 02:46.32 | Penix | mmm, government cheese |
| 02:46.57 | Akuw | this right ? deb-src http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch-backport/ etch main |
| 02:47.01 | mooze | brb |
| 02:47.01 | abrotman | no |
| 02:47.08 | abrotman | Akuw: aren't you installing java ? |
| 02:47.08 | Penix | livin' in a van down by the river |
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| 02:47.15 | abrotman | Penix: i shot my baby? |
| 02:47.16 | Akuw | yeah |
| 02:47.17 | mooze | Wyzard: be back in a jiffy and will let you know if -6 helped |
| 02:47.22 | abrotman | Akuw: that line is not for you |
| 02:47.28 | Akuw | :S |
| 02:47.29 | abrotman | Akuw: take it out ... |
| 02:47.39 | abrotman | Penix: good job .. you made him think he was doing the right thing! |
| 02:47.41 | Akuw | see, is what happen |
| 02:47.51 | abrotman | Akuw: take it out .. then paste your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 02:48.00 | Akuw | o |
| 02:48.00 | Penix | glad I could help |
| 02:48.09 | Akuw | ok |
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| 02:49.07 | Akuw | hummm deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/java/debian/ unstable non-free |
| 02:49.11 | Akuw | this could be |
| 02:49.24 | streuner_ | (prolly wrong) |
| 02:49.35 | abrotman | Akuw: wrong |
| 02:49.44 | abrotman | Akuw: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 02:49.50 | Akuw | wait |
| 02:50.03 | abrotman | Akuw: if you're not going to give us the information we need .. you'll have to figure it out yourself |
| 02:50.09 | abrotman | which doesn't seem to be a great idea |
| 02:50.20 | streuner_ | seem? |
| 02:50.30 | Akuw | http://rafb.net/p/yn1wRi78.html |
| 02:50.49 | abrotman | Akuw: uhm .. that's so wrong |
| 02:51.00 | abrotman | oh well |
| 02:51.03 | Akuw | why ? |
| 02:51.11 | Akuw | i have only official repos |
| 02:51.13 | abrotman | or did you paste it badly ? |
| 02:51.26 | abrotman | why is the http.us.debian.org at the end of the CD line ? |
| 02:51.41 | Wyzard | Akuw: debian-multimedia isn't an official repo, but other than that it looks OK aside from the error abrotman mentioned |
| 02:51.55 | abrotman | Wyzard: well .. if that isn't a paste error .. he has no main source |
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| 02:52.12 | Wyzard | yeah |
| 02:52.34 | Akuw | i have this now http://rafb.net/p/t0KIDu57.html |
| 02:52.49 | Akuw | ok, i delete |
| 02:52.50 | Wyzard | That's better |
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| 02:53.09 | Akuw | no what? |
| 02:53.09 | abrotman | Akuw: at the end of the http.us line .. add a " contrib non-free" .. then paste it again |
| 02:53.24 | abrotman | (and add non-free to the last two lines) |
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| 02:55.30 | abrotman | Akuw: going to paste it ? |
| 02:55.43 | Akuw | ok, i run apt-get update and there is no error |
| 02:55.51 | streuner_ | (prolly wrong) |
| 02:55.57 | abrotman | show us your sources.list |
| 02:56.07 | Akuw | http://rafb.net/p/3eWFnr16.html |
| 02:56.23 | abrotman | bad paste .. but close enough |
| 02:56.32 | abrotman | now .. aptitude update && aptitude install sun-java5-jre |
| 02:56.41 | Wyzard | jdk, not jre |
| 02:56.44 | abrotman | or jdk .. or whatever you want |
| 02:56.53 | Akuw | i need sdk |
| 02:57.01 | abrotman | then sun-java5-jdk |
| 02:57.11 | Akuw | installing |
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| 02:57.28 | abrotman | and don't forget to fix your profile that you messed up |
| 02:57.34 | Penix | !cookie abrotman |
| 02:57.35 | dpkg | Hey penix, broadcom woody is Go to http://broadcom.com/drivers/downloaddrivers.php and get for your card(44xx or 57xx). Download and unpack that tar and the tar that has the source code. Enter the src directory, edit Makefile. Make both lines that say Linux="..." say "Linux=/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-1-386" then run make.(requires the kernel-headers-2.4.18 package). Or ask abrotman |
| 02:57.39 | Penix | wth |
| 02:57.43 | Wyzard | lol |
| 02:57.46 | abrotman | !give Penix a cookie |
| 02:57.46 | dpkg | gives Penix a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up. |
| 02:57.50 | Penix | ah |
| 02:57.56 | abrotman | !cookie penix |
| 02:57.58 | dpkg | pulls out the cookie jar and finds scare penix... watches in amazement... an army of LINKSYS ROUTERS leaps out at Penix and devours him! |
| 02:58.03 | Penix | weird |
| 02:58.21 | abrotman | the !cookie does a random from the !listvals <foo> |
| 02:58.31 | Penix | ah. ok |
| 02:58.46 | abrotman | like |
| 02:58.49 | abrotman | !cookie sing |
| 02:58.50 | dpkg | spins the wheel of knowledge and ponders... running window found... If you get this error using mozilla-thunderbird, delete ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/default/xxxxxxxx.slt/lock and smile. |
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| 02:59.24 | streuner_ | !factinfo cookie |
| 02:59.24 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as cookie, streuner_ |
| 02:59.26 | abrotman | wtf is that? |
| 02:59.50 | Akuw | the java install will add the lines in profile right? |
| 03:00.00 | Wyzard | Akuw: no |
| 03:00.07 | abrotman | did you fix your profile that you messed up ? |
| 03:00.10 | Penix | Akuw: you shouldn't need all that crap |
| 03:00.20 | Wyzard | Akuw: The Java install puts things in directories that are on the normal system path |
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| 03:00.30 | Akuw | hummmm, ok |
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| 03:00.48 | Akuw | i don't need to install tomcat again? |
| 03:00.56 | streuner_ | Who did the !cookie thingie? |
| 03:00.58 | abrotman | shouldn't have to |
| 03:01.02 | abrotman | streuner_: it's a builtin |
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| 03:01.15 | streuner_ | oh, /me raises his eyebrow |
| 03:01.24 | abrotman | <abrotman> help cookie |
| 03:01.24 | abrotman | <dpkg> I can feed your appetite with random factoids. |
| 03:02.26 | streuner_ | wondered HOW you can tell the bot about random output via listvals... |
| 03:02.33 | Akuw | damm, no when i run vrms it will tell me, You have 1% non- free |
| 03:02.47 | Akuw | ms will be unhappy |
| 03:03.02 | Wyzard | Akuw: Well, Java 7 is expected to be fully free... maybe that'll be in lenny :-) |
| 03:03.10 | abrotman | Wyzard: LOLOLOL |
| 03:03.15 | abrotman | sun made a funny |
| 03:03.19 | Akuw | humm, good |
| 03:03.50 | Akuw | i just install that because i need to test an application that is GPL |
| 03:04.05 | Akuw | is ironic, is GPL but Java is no totally free |
| 03:04.15 | benuski | did you guys see on slashdot about how sun is gonna start putting closed source stuff in mysql enterprise? |
| 03:04.30 | Akuw | damm |
| 03:04.31 | Wyzard | benuski: Read the comments on that Slashdot article... the headline is a bit misleading |
| 03:04.44 | abrotman | Akuw: java is not GPLed |
| 03:04.48 | Wyzard | but yes, they'll have some non-free extensions |
| 03:04.57 | abrotman | Wyzard: so they're not closing the core ? |
| 03:05.13 | Akuw | n ? |
| 03:05.14 | benuski | yeah, i read the article, but it still looks like they're putting some stuff in there they're not releasing to the community |
| 03:05.14 | Wyzard | They're adding a GPL backup feature to MySQL |
| 03:05.15 | Akuw | NO? |
| 03:05.25 | Wyzard | and the enterprise edition will have some non-free extensions to the backup feature, such as encryption |
| 03:05.26 | Akuw | I READ IN SUN PAGE IT USE gpl2 |
| 03:05.29 | Akuw | SORRY |
| 03:05.31 | abrotman | oh |
| 03:05.33 | Akuw | sorry |
| 03:05.40 | abrotman | Akuw: lies .. Sun hasn't fully GPLed Java yet |
| 03:05.49 | Akuw | damm |
| 03:05.49 | Penix | yeah, enterprise edition pretty much screams 'closed features' to me in that case |
| 03:06.08 | Wyzard | abrotman: and there's a big difference between "Java is not GPLed" and "Java is *mostly* GPLed but not entirely" |
| 03:06.10 | Akuw | ok, ready |
| 03:06.14 | Akuw | i have java installed |
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| 03:06.20 | Akuw | let me test tomcat |
| 03:06.32 | abrotman | Wyzard: i can't use it on a Free system .. |
| 03:06.54 | Wyzard | Most of it could be used on a Free system |
| 03:07.00 | abrotman | Wyzard: i'm not anal about it being Free/free .. i'm anal about Sun saying they're going to GPL it .. what .. 1.5 years ago ? |
| 03:07.06 | Akuw | damm, i got this when try to run /usr/share/tomcat/bin/shutdown.sh |
| 03:07.13 | Wyzard | They *did* GPL it, all the parts that they can |
| 03:07.17 | Akuw | Neither the JAVA_HOME nor the JRE_HOME environment variable is defined |
| 03:07.19 | abrotman | that's what i mean |
| 03:07.25 | Wyzard | but not the few parts that they licensed from others and don't have the rights to re-license |
| 03:07.33 | abrotman | that's what i mean! |
| 03:07.42 | Penix | oh ffs |
| 03:07.44 | Akuw | pure lies from sun |
| 03:08.09 | Wyzard | and those parts are now being rewritten |
| 03:08.24 | Wyzard | or merged from GNU's implementation or whatever |
| 03:08.26 | abrotman | woohoo .. GPLed java from Sun and Radeon specs from ATI .. we've got the sweet life now |
| 03:08.59 | Akuw | abrotman: please |
| 03:09.01 | Akuw | Neither the JAVA_HOME nor the JRE_HOME environment variable is defined |
| 03:09.07 | streuner_ | its a start |
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| 03:09.13 | Akuw | now what ? |
| 03:09.16 | abrotman | streuner_: call me a skeptic |
| 03:09.19 | Penix | Akuw: are you even using a proper debian tomcat package? |
| 03:09.34 | abrotman | Penix: rephrase "how did you install tomcat" |
| 03:09.35 | streuner_ | abrotman: realistic rather ;-) |
| 03:09.36 | Akuw | i download from web page |
| 03:09.38 | Wyzard | abrotman: You sound like you're saying Sun is a liar because they said they'd GPL Java and then didn't do anything |
| 03:09.47 | Penix | Akuw: there's your problem |
| 03:09.49 | abrotman | Wyzard: i'm saying they haven't done it .. yet |
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| 03:09.54 | abrotman | it's been a long time |
| 03:10.02 | Wyzard | abrotman: They've GPLed 95% of it and the remainder is being worked on |
| 03:10.26 | abrotman | Wyzard: right .. not 100% yet .. it may very well be in the next two months |
| 03:10.40 | abrotman | Wyzard: til then .. i'll play the evil bastard role :) |
| 03:11.10 | Wyzard | not exactly fair of you, but whatever |
| 03:48.03 | abrotman | it's perfectly fair |
| 03:48.03 | Penix | holding them to their promise |
| 03:48.03 | abrotman | they said they'd GPL it .. and as of yet, they haven't |
| 03:48.03 | Wyzard | Incidentally, I read recently (on Slashdot, I think) that Java 6 update 10 includes a new browser plugin (for Firefox 3 only) that runs the JVM in a separate process rather than within the browser's process |
| 03:48.03 | abrotman | i understand there are legal limitations |
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| 03:48.03 | abrotman | but what they said still stands |
| 03:48.04 | Wyzard | That means the in-process browser part is (presumably) much more lightweight, so maybe (*crosses fingers*) this one'll support 64-bit browsers |
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| 03:48.04 | Wyzard | abrotman: It's disingenuous to say "Sun has not GPLed Java" when they have infact GPLed nearly all of it |
| 03:48.04 | Akuw | i have still the problem and already install tomcat using apt-get ----> Neither the JAVA_HOME nor the JRE_HOME environment variable is defined |
| 03:48.04 | abrotman | it'll be nice when there is GPLed java .. and the other alternatives .. though i hope they don't die |
| 03:48.04 | abrotman | Akuw: i told you yesterday to use aptitude to install tomcat .. you ignore me |
| 03:48.04 | abrotman | Wyzard: all != nearly all |
| 03:48.04 | Akuw | damm |
| 03:48.04 | abrotman | Wyzard: it's not Free |
| 03:48.04 | cizzi | enouf - hey |
| 03:48.05 | Wyzard | abrotman: right, but you didn't say "Sun has not GPLed all of Java yet" (which is a true and fair statement) |
| 03:48.05 | abrotman | Wyzard: does Java function without the GPLed bits? |
| 03:48.05 | abrotman | erm .. without the non-GPLed bits |
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| 03:48.05 | Wyzard | abrotman: sure, just replace them with alternate implementations from elsewhere |
| 03:48.05 | Wyzard | abrotman: Install Fedora 7 and try out its icedtea packages, for example |
| 03:48.05 | abrotman | not really what i meant |
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| 03:48.06 | Wyzard | That's a working Free Java |
| 03:48.06 | abrotman | so is sable |
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| 03:48.06 | abrotman | so is kaffe |
| 03:48.06 | Wyzard | right, but icedtea is Sun's code |
| 03:48.06 | abrotman | but not the non-free bits |
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| 03:48.07 | abrotman | just sits here and waits for the sox to lose |
| 03:48.07 | abrotman | and done! |
| 03:48.07 | benuski | who'd they play tonight? |
| 03:48.08 | abrotman | yanks |
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| 03:48.08 | abrotman | ugly game |
| 03:48.08 | abrotman | i think the little leaguers were pitching |
| 03:48.08 | abrotman | night folks |
| 03:48.08 | benuski | 'night |
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| 03:48.08 | keithy4 | I'm trying to migrate "on the fly" to a software raid 1. how do I set up a raid 1 in degraded mode, using mdadm? I have a partition of type linux raid autodetect already |
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| 03:48.09 | Wyzard | keithy4: IIRC, just specify "missing" as one of the device names when creating the array |
| 03:48.10 | keithy4 | ok, will try |
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| 03:48.10 | agnur | hello,all! |
| 03:48.10 | Lagbolt | keith4, http://www.ctunion.com/node/178 <-- like this? |
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| 03:48.10 | l23twire | :D my first website ever made under linux http |
| 03:48.10 | l23twire | http://www.l33twire.net |
| 03:48.10 | Akuw | how can i search in aptitude? |
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| 03:48.56 | Wyzard | Akuw: In aptitude's interactive mode, or from the command line? |
| 03:48.56 | Akuw | interactive |
| 03:48.56 | Wyzard | Akuw: Type '/' |
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| 03:48.56 | Nyle | i think if you look on the screen |
| 03:48.56 | Akuw | but, what is the diference to install using apt-get and aptitude ? |
| 03:48.56 | Nyle | it will tell you which key to push to get help on keys |
| 03:48.56 | Akuw | i think that is not a problem |
| 03:48.56 | Nyle | don't use apt-get |
| 03:48.57 | Nyle | just stick with aptitude |
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| 03:48.57 | Akuw | the reason please? |
| 03:48.57 | Nyle | !why aptitude |
| 03:48.57 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info |
| 03:48.57 | benuski | aptitude does a better job of remembering what you install and getting rid of it when you uninstall it |
| 03:48.57 | Akuw | ok |
| 03:48.58 | Akuw | how can i remove tomcat5 using aptitude ? |
| 03:48.58 | Penix | Akuw: the same way you go with apt-get |
| 03:48.58 | Penix | s/go/do/ |
| 03:48.58 | Akuw | i am using interactive |
| 03:48.58 | Akuw | ok |
| 03:48.58 | Akuw | ready |
| 03:48.58 | Akuw | Neither the JAVA_HOME nor the JRE_HOME environment variable is defined |
| 03:48.58 | Akuw | and i installed using aptitude |
| 03:48.59 | Wyzard | Akuw: You don't necessarily need JAVA_HOME and JRE_HOME to be set |
| 03:48.59 | stew | Akuw: neither JAVA_HOME nor JRE_HOME should need to be set in most normal situations |
| 03:48.59 | Akuw | then ? |
| 03:48.59 | Wyzard | Java programs are normally launched through shell scripts that define those variables automatically if they aren't set already |
| 03:49.00 | Akuw | http://localhost:8080 is not working |
| 03:49.00 | jim | why? |
| 03:49.00 | Wyzard | Is Tomcat running? |
| 03:49.00 | Akuw | no |
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| 03:49.01 | Penix | who'da thunk it |
| 03:49.01 | keithy4 | Lagbolt: precisely like that, thanks! |
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| 03:49.09 | Akuw | damm |
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| 03:49.54 | keithy4 | wyzard: do I need a separate /boot partition, then? |
| 03:49.58 | keithy4 | or can grub boot from a raid 1? |
| 03:51.56 | Nyle | good bye people of the #debian |
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| 03:57.53 | mrnull | Anyone know how to save a playlist as m3u in xmms2-cli? |
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| 03:58.42 | Penix | surely it has a man page |
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| 04:00.08 | mrnull | Penix: It just doesn't say anything in there about it, except how to import. |
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| 04:00.21 | simonrvn | their web site? |
| 04:00.33 | simonrvn | /usr/share/doc/<packagename>? |
| 04:00.35 | Penix | list archives on google? |
| 04:00.57 | simonrvn | probably 15-20 places you could look |
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| 04:01.16 | caissara | ola |
| 04:01.19 | caissara | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.20 | Penix | or xmms2-cli --help even |
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| 04:01.41 | caissara | ola boa noite |
| 04:01.48 | Penix | caissara: engles? |
| 04:02.05 | simonrvn | that's nice. hello. i don't understand portuguese |
| 04:02.05 | caissara | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:02.15 | Penix | !portugese |
| 04:02.15 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 04:03.43 | simonrvn | i guess it wasn't important enough |
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| 04:07.13 | ftp3 | so.. I am trying to install debian 4.x on a dell vostro |
| 04:07.17 | ftp3 | i found this |
| 04:08.27 | ftp3 | http://mail.linux.ie/pipermail/ilug/2008-February/096741.html |
| 04:08.42 | ftp3 | but i have no network.. |
| 04:09.03 | Penix | ftp3: etch? |
| 04:09.05 | ftp3 | if i burn the debian 4.x dvd, will that give me the ability to get kernel source and gcc |
| 04:09.05 | ftp3 | etc |
| 04:09.11 | ftp3 | penix: yes |
| 04:09.38 | ftp3 | penix: i have tried http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 04:09.41 | ftp3 | but its not working |
| 04:10.28 | Penix | what's not working? how is it not working? |
| 04:10.55 | Penix | surely the 2.6.24 install image would have the driver |
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| 04:42.08 | new2it | is there a PDF vertion of the Debian referance and/or the FAQ? |
| 04:42.26 | dondelelcaro | new2it: of the reference, yes. |
| 04:43.05 | new2it | link? please? |
| 04:43.09 | dondelelcaro | new2it: http://qref.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:43.17 | new2it | thanks. |
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| 04:44.54 | new2it | I'm using 'sarge' (don't ask), will much have chnaged? |
| 04:47.27 | new2it | so I'm out of luck with regards to FAQ? is there any other easy way to download it for offline viewing? |
| 04:50.22 | new2it | would anyone recomend grabbing any other doc files. I'm new to admining debian but not a new linux user. |
| 04:51.10 | JyZyXEL | hmm i wonder how could you add so that command is executed when X starts |
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| 04:56.02 | Penix | JyZyXEL: /msg dpkg .xsession |
| 04:56.08 | JyZyXEL | thats it |
| 04:56.52 | JyZyXEL | i have to put it in some KDM file -.- |
| 04:57.27 | Penix | if you're using KDE, configure your session to run whatever you want |
| 04:57.40 | JyZyXEL | using xfce |
| 04:57.54 | JyZyXEL | maybe /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc |
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| 04:58.12 | Penix | then configure the xfce session manager |
| 04:58.17 | JyZyXEL | # Xstartup - run as root before session starts |
| 04:58.19 | Penix | your display manager has nothing to do with it |
| 04:58.24 | JyZyXEL | oh |
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| 04:58.40 | Penix | JyZyXEL: are you talking about running a different wm/de or just run an app along with the existing wm? |
| 04:58.45 | Penix | at startup |
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| 04:59.09 | JyZyXEL | never mind i found the xfce startup |
| 04:59.32 | agnur | hi,all, does anyone use slim to switch user in fvwm? I have read slim's manual,but I did not find the |
| 04:59.37 | agnur | method to login 2 or 3 user with slim at the same machine. |
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| 05:08.50 | jim | try xnest -query localhost |
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| 05:11.27 | agnur | ok,I'll try this night.thanks. |
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| 05:12.04 | jim | and you might read man X to see how it all fits together |
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| 05:14.34 | agnur | ok, |
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| 05:49.32 | cmanns | :-) Penix |
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| 06:08.47 | bloo | Hmm, how to set a default image viewer? |
| 06:09.16 | bloo | Found it |
| 06:09.48 | dimir | Morning! |
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| 06:11.25 | jim | it |
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| 06:16.07 | Zoup | do you know anyway to redirect stdout and stderr of 'shell script' by code inside the script to another file ? |
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| 06:16.14 | Zoup | do you know anyway to redirect stdout and stderr of 'shell script' by code inside the script to another file ? |
| 06:17.13 | jim | have each line append to the file in question |
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| 06:19.10 | Zoup | its a postinst script |
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| 06:20.25 | jim | is that different somehow? |
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| 06:21.08 | Zoup | well apt-get execute that not me |
| 06:22.03 | jim | didn't you say you want to alter the script to do a redirect? |
| 06:22.33 | Zoup | indeed , but i have no control over the way its executed |
| 06:22.54 | Zoup | its not possible to ./shell 2> err |
| 06:23.05 | firebird619 | Could someone help me? When I insert a disc or plug in a USB drive, etc., they are not automounted anymore. I have to go to Places --> Computer and double-click the drive to mount it. How can I fix this, I've looked on the forums and google, but found no solution as of yet anyway? |
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| 06:24.25 | Penix | firebird619: ps ax |grep gnome-volume-manager |
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| 06:28.12 | icenine | can debian's net install cd handle atheros wireless cards? |
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| 06:31.44 | magyar | hi, what would be the reason with ssh, if i can from one host two another but not vice versa? |
| 06:31.46 | dondelelcaro | icenine: not without significant effort, no. |
| 06:32.13 | dondelelcaro | magyar: could be most anything, from iptables rules to network configuration to ssh keys to host keys to... |
| 06:32.38 | icenine | dondelelcaro: thanks.. think i'm going to do an install from inside my current setup |
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| 06:33.15 | icenine | can you at least connect to the port on the other host with nc or telnet? |
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| 06:33.45 | friendlys | how can you find out if the hard drive in a server is scsi/sata ? without root access? |
| 06:34.08 | Lewoco_ | How do I make 'man' start out configured to do case sensitive searches? |
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| 06:34.39 | jim | if you don't have root on that machihe, why do you need to know? |
| 06:35.46 | magyar | dondelelcaro: iptables good, network good, hosts.deny good sshkeys are fine |
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| 06:37.11 | icenine | magyar: are the hosts both on your local network or random IPs? |
| 06:37.27 | PhrkOnLsh | hey folks, why is linux-kbuild-2.6.22 not in lenny's repo? |
| 06:37.54 | Lewoco_ | When I do 'less /etc/passwd' less starts configured to do case sensitive searches, but when I export MANPAGER=less, and do 'man man' less starts configured to do case INsensitive searches. Why? |
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| 06:38.57 | magyar | icenine: same network I get "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" |
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| 06:40.18 | dondelelcaro | magyar: look at the auth log on the other machine |
| 06:40.39 | dondelelcaro | magyar: running with ssh -vv; will also be informative. |
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| 06:42.20 | PhrkOnLsh | anyone ponder why kbuild-2.6.22-3 isn't in lenny repo? |
| 06:42.52 | dondelelcaro | PhrkOnLsh: because they're up to -4? |
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| 06:43.21 | PhrkOnLsh | kernel .22 is in repo, why'd they take out the kbuild? |
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| 06:43.29 | telexicon | whats going to cause this message?: kernel: swapper: page allocation failure. order:1, mode:0x20 |
| 06:43.56 | PhrkOnLsh | at any rate, .24 borks on my machine, so it's not as simple as updating my kernel. |
| 06:44.13 | magyar | dondelelcaro: i get "sshd[11677]: refused connect from 192.168.0.142 |
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| 06:44.21 | dondelelcaro | PhrkOnLsh: most likely it still hasn't been removed yet. |
| 06:44.37 | PhrkOnLsh | well, crup, any idears wat to do then? |
| 06:44.55 | dondelelcaro | PhrkOnLsh: fix your .24 problem and/or file a bug so it gets fixed. |
| 06:45.08 | PhrkOnLsh | well well |
| 06:45.29 | PhrkOnLsh | thanks... i think |
| 06:45.41 | dondelelcaro | (since lenny definetly is not going to release with .22) |
| 06:46.11 | jim | if it hasn't been removed how can he find it? |
| 06:46.15 | dondelelcaro | and the entire point of lenny is to be a testing ground for the next stable release; packages are removed from it all the time to make that happen. |
| 06:46.15 | PhrkOnLsh | well, the weekly built lenny netinst I have came with the kernel so it seems funny |
| 06:46.31 | dondelelcaro | PhrkOnLsh: .24 is just now going into it (as in the past couple of days) |
| 06:46.40 | PhrkOnLsh | m |
| 06:46.42 | PhrkOnLsh | hm |
| 06:46.47 | dondelelcaro | jim: if it hasn't been removed, it's in the archives; if it has, it's in snapshot.debian.net |
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| 06:47.28 | magyar | dondelelcaro: my bad /etc/hosts.deny had it by fqdn |
| 06:47.30 | magyar | bahh |
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| 06:47.39 | dondelelcaro | make that 9 days ago |
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| 06:52.16 | womble | I've just upgraded from Etch to Lenny, and suddenly my Gnome desktop isn't displaying any fonts or icons (although I've still got a display in my xterm, once I found the button). I don't suppose anyone has hit this already and can help me short-circuit the debugging process? |
| 06:52.21 | womble | crosses his fingers |
| 06:52.40 | dondelelcaro | womble: if someone has, there's likely a bug filed about it |
| 06:53.57 | magyar | damn, denyhosts keeps placing the fqdn into /etc/hosts.deny |
| 06:54.26 | womble | dondelelcaro: Google isn't giving me anything, and to be honest I have no idea which package might have a relevant bug report -- between the half-million Gnome packages on my system, and the fact that it might not be a Gnome problem, I've got a real "needle->haystack" ahead of me there... |
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| 06:56.22 | dondelelcaro | womble: most likely it's the gtk fontselection; gtk-theme-switch or the gnome control panel should show them to you; otherwise you can move away .gnome and .gtk and try again. |
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| 06:56.51 | womble | dondelelcaro: Ooooh, move away .gnome and .gtk. I'll give that a go. |
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| 06:57.23 | icenine | what's a good blocksize for a reiserfs on a desktop (40gb hdd)... Partition will be /. Not many other partitions will be used. |
| 06:57.48 | dondelelcaro | icenine: a good blocksize is to pick a different filesystem |
| 06:58.05 | Lagbolt | lol |
| 06:58.07 | icenine | any reccommendations? |
| 06:58.12 | dondelelcaro | (unless you don't care about your data on that filesystem, in which case, I've no idea) |
| 06:58.29 | Lagbolt | icenine, ext3 :) |
| 06:58.49 | womble | dondelelcaro: Just realised that isn't going to work... I get no visible username/password on the login box... so it's not user-specific. Bummer. I do see "Please enter your username", though, so perhaps not *all* my fonts are gone... |
| 06:59.55 | icenine | http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html reiserfs ftw |
| 07:00.04 | icenine | in that article, at least. |
| 07:00.06 | dondelelcaro | womble: hrm; it's probably one of the default fonts then; quite possibly one of the -themes or something similar |
| 07:00.43 | dondelelcaro | icenine: I'm not saying that it's not a fast filesystem, merely that it has a really bad record of data destruction |
| 07:00.48 | womble | dondelelcaro: I'll narrow my search down to those first; thanks. |
| 07:00.57 | icenine | ahhh |
| 07:01.01 | icenine | safety first |
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| 07:02.38 | dondelelcaro | (though in a large number of cases, ext2 is plenty fast) |
| 07:03.03 | icenine | until I need to check it ;) |
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| 07:03.54 | Lagbolt | safty first . . . safty always with data |
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| 07:05.39 | PriitM | Can debian stable to debian testing upgrade cause issues right after I have installed stable? |
| 07:05.43 | womble | dondelelcaro: Thanks for your help. It turns out, and this'll haunt me for the rest of my days, that postinst on hal hadn't run, so a couple of dependent packages hadn't configured, and that was enough to kill my fonts. Sorry for the noise, I should have sorted that out first... <grin> |
| 07:06.08 | womble | PriitM: It's worked OK for me... |
| 07:06.18 | PriitM | womble, thanks :) |
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| 07:12.04 | littlepinkdot | Any freenode staff available? |
| 07:12.11 | tarzeau | littlepinkdot: try #freenode |
| 07:12.29 | littlepinkdot | tarzeau, heh no on there, someone said look here, they like to hide :) |
| 07:12.38 | tarzeau | crazy no etch nor lenny banners yet: http://www.debian.org/banners/ |
| 07:13.03 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 07:13.03 | dpkg | <jarjar26> how can i start gnome automatically when gnome start ? |
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| 07:14.33 | tarzeau | why does firefox not show this but some other browser does? http://img.genbeta.com/2007/04/etch_released.jpg |
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| 07:17.53 | Lewoco_ | tarzeau, My firefox shows it just fine. |
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| 07:29.52 | littlepinkdot | is away: I'm busy |
| 07:32.59 | iguanna | hi all, i am studing the way to backup my full system... |
| 07:33.27 | iguanna | i was reading from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR |
| 07:33.48 | edward__ | sorry I can't help it.. :D "44805 Bogomips Total" |
| 07:33.55 | Maliuta | iguanna: what do you want to back up? full fs' or just data? |
| 07:34.02 | iguanna | and it sounds like a good way to backup my system |
| 07:34.08 | g00se | Is it possible to have two different logins to Xfce? |
| 07:34.17 | iguanna | Maliuta, full fs |
| 07:34.31 | Maliuta | iguanna: then you should be looking at dd |
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| 07:35.19 | iguanna | the link that i pasted above explains very well how backup you full system with tar |
| 07:35.20 | Maliuta | personally I don't see the value in backing up a file system, I am really only interested in the data it contains |
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| 07:35.56 | iguanna | the value is that i won't have to install and configure my software |
| 07:36.03 | iguanna | again |
| 07:36.29 | iguanna | and this is my doubt with tar |
| 07:36.45 | DirkGently | g00se: you can have as many logins as you want... do you mean sessions? |
| 07:37.12 | iguanna | if i use tar to backup my full system, i want to be sure then i will can restore my system fully |
| 07:37.37 | DirkGently | iguanna: look at image backups as well |
| 07:37.39 | iguanna | and i don't have to configure it. |
| 07:37.48 | Winkie | is there a recommended practise when building your own customised packages to extra naming etc to prevent it wanting to be updated? |
| 07:37.55 | DirkGently | like partimage |
| 07:38.13 | iguanna | DirkGently, you are talking about dd no? |
| 07:38.25 | iguanna | dd ... fo= partimage.dd |
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| 07:39.03 | DirkGently | iguanna: and tools like that, yes |
| 07:39.29 | DirkGently | partimage has a wizard |
| 07:40.01 | iguanna | well, there are a lot of tools to backup ...well tar and dd is not difficult |
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| 07:41.07 | iguanna | it almost drives me mad... |
| 07:41.33 | iguanna | and finally i have had a way, 'tar or dd' |
| 07:41.53 | iguanna | and for me i think that 'tar' is better |
| 07:42.21 | DirkGently | tar is ok for file-level backup |
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| 07:42.23 | iguanna | but are there anybody that can advise 'tar' to backup? |
| 07:42.32 | DirkGently | but then you have to build a base system first |
| 07:42.34 | iguanna | ok |
| 07:42.49 | iguanna | DirkGently, yes i know |
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| 07:43.32 | DirkGently | unless you use vmware |
| 07:43.38 | iguanna | if we suppose that my systema fall down and my hard disk is broken.... |
| 07:43.53 | iguanna | and i have a tar backup of my full system... |
| 07:44.18 | iguanna | i would have to install debian again,and then restore my tar backup, right? |
| 07:44.32 | DirkGently | right |
| 07:44.34 | tarzeau | you could automate a debian installation |
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| 07:45.02 | iguanna | a installatino debian is already automate no? |
| 07:45.41 | iguanna | tarzeau, what do you mean? |
| 07:46.24 | DirkGently | if you used dd, you could restore the image without having to automate anything |
| 07:46.52 | DirkGently | gtg... work |
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| 07:49.05 | tarzeau | iguanna: if you set it up so, yes |
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| 07:49.11 | iguanna | ok DirkGently, this chat is interesting for me but now i have to go out, could we talk about it again in awhile? |
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| 07:49.50 | iguanna | in 1 hour i will be againg here |
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| 07:53.07 | mardi | debian woooo!! |
| 07:54.14 | dimir | \o/ |
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| 07:55.44 | mardi | i started using debian lenny last week and i really like it so far |
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| 07:59.47 | prolix | hello |
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| 08:00.59 | debian | Hi i'm trying to install Apache2 ... and come accross this : |
| 08:00.59 | debian | debian@debain:~$ sudo apt-get install apache2 |
| 08:01.00 | debian | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct |
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| 08:01.58 | Nurulwai | Do what it says? |
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| 08:05.15 | PhrkOnLsh | ponders telling debian to rm his root fs... |
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| 08:07.54 | zyx386 | hi |
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| 08:08.42 | zyx386 | i don' know , why my epyphany is every time "Work Offline" |
| 08:08.43 | zyx386 | ? |
| 08:09.46 | quitte | because you clicked the work offline checkbox in the file menu? |
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| 08:09.55 | zyx386 | no |
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| 08:10.10 | zyx386 | i most every time sets manuelay |
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| 08:10.33 | zyx386 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.24 | zyx386 | https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=175896 |
| 08:11.45 | zyx386 | is bug |
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| 08:11.53 | zyx386 | quitte, :) |
| 08:11.55 | zyx386 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=437145 |
| 08:12.11 | quitte | yes. just found itin ubuntus launchpad. if thereisn't a debian bug report please... |
| 08:12.12 | quitte | ok |
| 08:13.08 | zyx386 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=437145 |
| 08:13.13 | zyx386 | that is debian bug |
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| 08:15.40 | quitte | yes. you should probably add a few lines to that report |
| 08:16.19 | dot1 | good morning |
| 08:16.20 | prolix | i just ran alsaconf and it did set up to play sound through my headphones, however, the sound from the speakers is not muted. is there a way for the speaker sound to be disabled when the headphones are plugged in? [Audio device: intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) ### 2.6.22-4-686]? |
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| 08:19.53 | needhelp | is it possible to block the network from using web msn? i can't block port 80 as it is for web surfing.. i'm using linux debian iptables |
| 08:19.55 | enouf | prolix: there might be some module parm you need or something, hrm - if a laptop, do; "/msg dpkg laptop" |
| 08:20.07 | prolix | enouf: thank you |
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| 08:20.08 | womble | prolix: It works for me OK with an ICH8... I'm running 2.6.24 though |
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| 08:20.21 | enouf | prolix: poke around at alsa-project.org as well |
| 08:20.44 | womble | prolix: There are some weirdnesses with SantaRosa chipset audio and 2.6.22 |
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| 08:21.06 | prolix | womble: thank you |
| 08:21.32 | enouf | aye, Sigmatel too http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=868053 |
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| 08:22.11 | enouf | oh, that's likely a diff issue |
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| 08:22.49 | womble | Does anyone know if it's possible to tell xrandr to keep a certain screen as the "primary"? I'm getting my panel migrating to my external monitor when I enable it, and it's annoying. I'm on Lenny, if it matters much. Is this question better served on #debian-x? |
| 08:22.55 | zyx386 | what is GConf? |
| 08:23.06 | prolix | well, it is a laptop, it's a toshiba satellite, which i haven't been able to wrangle to do my bidding just yet, but it's coming along slowly. once this is down, it's on to the wireless issue for me with the realtek usb 8187b thingy |
| 08:23.09 | enouf | !gconf |
| 08:23.09 | dpkg | from memory, gconf is a system used by the GNOME desktop environment for storing configuration settings for the desktop and applications. Changes to this system are controlled by GConfd, a daemon. GConfd watches out for changes to the database, and when they are changed, it applies the new settings to applications using it. This technology is known as "auto-apply", compared to "explicit-apply", which requires users to press an OK or Apply button to ... |
| 08:23.10 | vaenilicious | now i have downloaded the firefox package, how to install it. I have the package on my desktop |
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| 08:24.14 | enouf | womble: hrm, i don't know personally - decent tutorial about xrandr ? http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 |
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| 08:24.29 | womble | enouf: Thanks, I'm just reading through it now. |
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| 08:25.00 | vaenilicious | now i have downloaded the firefox package, how to install it. I have the package on my desktop |
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| 08:25.32 | icenine | I just followed this guide http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en to getting debian installed from inside another linux installation |
| 08:25.32 | womble | enouf: It's describing exactly what I'm seeing... and there's no solution! <pout> Thanks anyway, at least I know why it's gone crazy on me... |
| 08:25.36 | blongden | Hi all - not sure if this is a #debian or #nvidia thing - but does anyone have any idea why I would need to reinstall the nvidia drivers (from the nvidia.com website) every time I reboot my machine? I have tried installing the nvidia drivers using the apt repository but have never had much success with it (appears to be installing a really old version!) |
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| 08:25.58 | icenine | but when I try to do grub-install /dev/hda inside my chroot.. there is no /dev/hda... is this a udev thing? How can I get my /dev/hda to be there? |
| 08:26.13 | enouf | womble: aye, atleast ya know now |
| 08:26.23 | enouf | welcome |
| 08:27.19 | womble | enouf: And if I drag the panels around I can put them back... that'll work well enough for me. |
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| 08:27.30 | womble | hands enouf a virtual $BEVERAGE_OF_CHOICE |
| 08:27.32 | enouf | icenine: exit your chroot, then mount --bind /proc/ /mnt/point/proc and same for /dev |
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| 08:27.44 | enouf | icenine: then chroot, then run it |
| 08:28.05 | zyx386 | quitte, i fix it, thanx. in GConf editor |
| 08:28.10 | enouf | womble: ;-) |
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| 08:28.37 | icenine | :D |
| 08:28.39 | icenine | thanks a lot |
| 08:28.45 | enouf | (coffee right ow, danke - weee mornin' hours here - slowly awaking) |
| 08:28.52 | enouf | s/ow/now |
| 08:28.55 | zyx386 | thanx enouf to |
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| 08:29.50 | Obligatory | Not really a Debian thing, though the page mentions Debian; but major wikispam here: http://wiki.linuxhelp.net/index.php/Bttv_Setup what to do about that? |
| 08:30.17 | enouf | thinks i'll be returning to bed for an hour or so soon ;-) |
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| 08:31.58 | Obligatory | Yikes, now nothing loads from 'wiki.linuxhelp.net'... |
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| 08:32.30 | Obligatory | Wait it's back... |
| 08:33.37 | N3bunel | saluta |
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| 08:37.31 | icenine | thanks a lot for the help enouf. does anyone know why when I try to install grub I get this error sh-3.1# /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda |
| 08:37.39 | icenine | /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive |
| 08:38.01 | icenine | I tried going into the grub shell and installing.. but then I don't have the stage files |
| 08:40.02 | blongden | anyone with an nvidia card - is it right that the seemingly most recent version of the nvidia drivers in the debian repository is 100.14.11, when the most recent on the nvidia website is 169.12? Seems massively lagging behind to me ? |
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| 08:40.41 | mardi | blongden: are you using stable or testing? |
| 08:40.50 | blongden | mardi, testing |
| 08:40.55 | ninnghizidha | guys ... how to get a 686-kernel on an amd64-installation? |
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| 08:41.13 | mardi | dunno then, i use ATI :p |
| 08:41.19 | blongden | :P |
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| 08:46.34 | fireba11 | ninnghizidha: just install it .. but why ? |
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| 09:06.29 | iguanna | hi am here |
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| 09:07.08 | iguanna | DirkGently, hi friend are you? |
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| 09:07.33 | iguanna | we are talkin about backup stuff |
| 09:07.42 | iguanna | with 'dd' or 'tar' |
| 09:07.59 | iguanna | i am telling you that i prefer tar |
| 09:08.54 | ninnghizidha | fireba11, Well .. i need it for xen .... but apt-get doesnt show kernels beside the amd64-kernels |
| 09:09.02 | iguanna | although with tar i need to have installed a file system before to restore from tar backup. |
| 09:09.09 | ninnghizidha | im pretty confusedHOW to install them :-/ |
| 09:09.30 | enouf | icenine: hi; hrm where is you device (/dev/hda) mounted at? try using --recheck, or --root-directory= options with grub shell http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html use tab completion to help |
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| 09:09.50 | iguanna | while that with 'dd' it is not necessary |
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| 09:10.30 | icenine | enouf: thanks, you'vee bene vrey helpful. I opted to install lilo until I get the system to boot. I'm writing down your advice incase I need it later |
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| 09:12.24 | the_sniff | what package has mysqlcheck? |
| 09:12.24 | enouf | icenine: np ;-) if you stick with lilo remember to always alter your lilo config adnd rerun lilo whenever installing new kernels, prior to rebooting into it |
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| 09:13.06 | icenine | stick with lilo? What if someone saw my computer boot up? |
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| 09:13.41 | enouf | icenine: a bit more about those --bind mount options i mentioned http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/433 |
| 09:13.48 | fireba11 | ninnghizidha ah sorry .. yes on 64-bit system you need 64-bit kernel .. the other way round works though |
| 09:14.20 | utrrrongeeb | Any guesses as to when Lenny is released? |
| 09:14.31 | icenine | ah |
| 09:14.35 | icenine | yeah that is a cool option |
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| 09:15.52 | fireba11 | utrrrongeeb: schedule is sept 2008 |
| 09:16.17 | utrrrongeeb | fireba11: Okay, thanks! I hadn't heard that before... |
| 09:17.07 | enouf | !wir |
| 09:17.07 | dpkg | [wir] When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 09:17.37 | the_sniff | hm |
| 09:17.57 | the_sniff | i need a package for Etch that don't even have a backport |
| 09:18.03 | the_sniff | what should i do? make from sources? |
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| 09:18.32 | enouf | the_sniff: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 09:18.35 | iguanna | how do i connect a new hard disk on my system? |
| 09:18.50 | iguanna | this new hard disk is fat32 |
| 09:19.00 | enouf | jumper it correctly, plug git in correctly, use correct cables |
| 09:19.07 | enouf | s/git/it |
| 09:19.19 | enouf | modprobe -a vfat fat |
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| 09:20.14 | enouf | it's not new if it's fat32 :-P (or any other FStype) |
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| 09:20.39 | the_sniff | enouf: thanks, that won't break any lib right? since it makes against the existing libc. and btw what does ssb stand for? |
| 09:20.49 | ninnghizidha | fireba11, ... well ... so how to get a i368-kernel then? |
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| 09:21.20 | enouf | the_sniff: it says what it means, no? (simple sid backport) and no, not if you only enable 'deb-src' only |
| 09:21.24 | iguanna | enouf, it is a hard disk (new) that i bought to store backups from windows systems... |
| 09:21.44 | enouf | ninnghizidha: go to p.d.o and d/l it |
| 09:21.45 | the_sniff | nope the bot doesn't say simple sid backport |
| 09:21.57 | iguanna | and now i want to plug it to my linux system to backup it |
| 09:21.57 | the_sniff | and yeah i meand deb-src only |
| 09:21.58 | enouf | iguanna: that's nice |
| 09:21.58 | the_sniff | thanks |
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| 09:22.11 | enouf | iguanna: internal? USB enclosure? |
| 09:22.17 | iguanna | internal |
| 09:22.24 | iguanna | faster |
| 09:22.55 | enouf | sure |
| 09:23.48 | enouf | see my first comment then ;-) Once you install it correctly, boot directly into BIOS to ensure it's recognized and correct settings .. (Auto mode is usually fine) |
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| 09:24.35 | enouf | iguanna: note which bus (IDE0, or IDE1, etc), and controller you connect the drive to .. |
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| 09:24.53 | iguanna | controller? |
| 09:25.19 | iguanna | what controller? |
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| 09:25.34 | enouf | iguanna: this site has all info you could use, if you're not used to doing this kind of thing http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/op/jumpIDE-c.html |
| 09:25.55 | enouf | iguanna: lspci | grep -i controller |
| 09:26.13 | iguanna | enouf, i gonna take a look |
| 09:26.47 | enouf | iguanna: well, just lspci - and look for IDE |
| 09:27.01 | enouf | on mine, controller doesn't return useful info ;-) |
| 09:27.09 | enouf | (for IDE connections) |
| 09:27.18 | fireba11 | ninnghizidha: i suspect that won't work at all |
| 09:27.45 | enouf | ninnghizidha: are you attempting an amd64 chroot or something? |
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| 09:28.16 | enouf | !wayttd |
| 09:28.16 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do? |
| 09:28.22 | iguanna | enouf, on mine neither |
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| 09:28.46 | iguanna | neither information about ide connections |
| 09:28.50 | enouf | iguanna: old system? |
| 09:29.07 | enouf | iguanna: pastebin output of lspci and entire dmesg output |
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| 09:30.10 | enouf | iguanna: the more specific you are, the better help you can get (just an aside) |
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| 09:32.47 | buscon | Hi, how can I change some keyboard combination layout ? |
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| 09:33.11 | buscon | I mean, I'd like to write german characters with an italian keyboard layout |
| 09:33.16 | buscon | how can I modify it ? |
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| 09:39.43 | enouf | buscon: try http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html search that page for meta |
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| 09:42.45 | buscon | enouf, I take a look, thanks |
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| 09:44.13 | AcTiVaTe | Anyone that can tell me if sudo is in default Sarge repos? |
| 09:44.20 | enouf | buscon: np, some other things to note; man xmodmap, and man setxkbmap, and do; "/msg dpkg keymap" and "/msg dpkg locales" |
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| 09:44.47 | enouf | AcTiVaTe: i used sudo on sarge .. |
| 09:45.07 | enouf | !pdo |
| 09:45.08 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 09:45.25 | AcTiVaTe | Thx |
| 09:45.45 | enouf | AcTiVaTe: you are aware...sarge is oldstable |
| 09:45.57 | themill | It's not like ubuntu invented sudo... it has been around for a while. |
| 09:46.14 | the_sniff | enouf: thanks again and good day :) |
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| 09:46.19 | AcTiVaTe | enouf: It's a remote server being rented. Did not install or do anything |
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| 09:46.33 | AcTiVaTe | enouf: Just checking what I am allowed to do ;) |
| 09:47.14 | psycodad | hello, how can i make python2.5 the default python in etch ? |
| 09:47.15 | AcTiVaTe | did apt-get install sudo but got the message that it's missing, obosoleted etc. |
| 09:47.21 | enouf | themill: heh |
| 09:47.37 | themill | psycodad: you probably don't want to do that. |
| 09:47.42 | enouf | AcTiVaTe: what are you even running? cat /etc/debian_version |
| 09:48.00 | AcTiVaTe | enouf: 3.1 |
| 09:48.04 | psycodad | themill: why ? |
| 09:48.07 | enouf | bingo |
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| 09:48.29 | enouf | how about apt-cache search |
| 09:48.36 | enouf | apt-get update |
| 09:48.48 | enouf | !sources.list |
| 09:48.48 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian etch main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <etch security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 09:49.02 | themill | psycodad: Because many things in etch won't run properly under python 2.5. The python 2.4 to 2.5 transition is only just getting underway in unstable and there's still quite some work to do. |
| 09:49.12 | iguanna | i can't copy and paste text from vim, how it is? |
| 09:49.18 | iguanna | i am doing... |
| 09:49.26 | iguanna | pulse 'v' to enter in visual mode |
| 09:49.41 | AcTiVaTe | enouf: Only thing not enabled in sources.list is testing |
| 09:49.51 | iguanna | then selected the text |
| 09:49.52 | psycodad | themill: ah, ok. then ill stick with calling it by its name. Thx for the answers. |
| 09:49.56 | enouf | AcTiVaTe: /msg dpkg releases |
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| 09:50.00 | iguanna | with my cursors |
| 09:50.14 | iguanna | and then i pulse 'y' (to copy) |
| 09:50.19 | themill | psycodad: yeah, explicitly calling python2.5 in your shebang line is the best plan for now. |
| 09:50.27 | SlimeyPete | iguanna: which cursor? vim cursor or your mouse cursor? |
| 09:50.30 | enouf | AcTiVaTe: testing is now, and has been for over a year, two releases up from sarge |
| 09:50.39 | iguanna | but it is not copied inside my clipboard |
| 09:50.51 | iguanna | keyboard cursors |
| 09:51.04 | SlimeyPete | iguanna: vim has its own clipboard |
| 09:51.06 | themill | iguanna: that only copies to vim's internal clipboard |
| 09:51.13 | SlimeyPete | it won't appear in your main clipboard |
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| 09:51.55 | SlimeyPete | for that you have to use your mouse, and use the copy-paste functionality of your terminal / gvim, or use the mouse-buffer. |
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| 09:55.40 | enouf | iguanna: you could redirect output to file like so; dmesg > dmesg.saved-txt - then play/paste/copy with that file if you like - do "/msg dpkg pastebin pipe" (is an option too) |
| 09:55.52 | nikxs | Hi, exist any way howto change ctime ? touch support only atime and mtime |
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| 09:58.00 | petemc | !ctime |
| 09:58.00 | dpkg | Unix does *not* store the creation time of files. Anywhere. At all. Ever. You can't get it. You see that "ctime" field in the stat structure? It's not "creation time". It's inode (metadata) change time. It gets updated when you chmod the file, etc. |
| 09:58.32 | enouf | hrm interesting; $ man file_update_time |
| 09:59.09 | enouf | (from manpages-dev pkg - man 9 file_update_time) |
| 09:59.43 | enouf | whoops - it's in mine from ; ~$ dlocate file_update_time |
| 09:59.43 | enouf | linux-manual-2.6.21: /usr/share/man/man9/file_update_time.9.gz |
| 10:00.06 | enouf | !find man9/file_update_time.9.gz |
| 10:00.19 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'man9/file_update_time.9.gz' (1): (/usr/share/man/man9/file_update_time.9.gz) in doc/linux-manual-2.6.24. |
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| 10:01.34 | nikxs | hm, so when stat is showing: Access: 2008-04-17 11:54:20.000000000 | Modify: 2008-04-17 11:53:01.000000000 +0200 | Change: 2008-04-17 11:53:05.000000000 +0200 |
| 10:01.50 | nikxs | it's not possible "set" Change: ? |
| 10:01.59 | enouf | change the file ;-) |
| 10:02.21 | nikxs | enouf: but not to actual date |
| 10:02.23 | enouf | for one file? or many files? |
| 10:02.44 | nikxs | 20+- |
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| 10:03.12 | enouf | "but not to actual date" <-- not sure what that means |
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| 10:04.21 | nikxs | enouf: set "change" date to yesterday for example |
| 10:04.23 | enouf | nikxs: easiest would be, AFAIK, to chmod as dpkg told you, then chmod it back |
| 10:04.49 | enouf | nikxs: haha you want to play with your system date then perhaps ;-) |
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| 10:05.09 | enouf | !wayttd |
| 10:05.10 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do? |
| 10:05.21 | enouf | well, i mean what for |
| 10:05.24 | nikxs | enouf: doing security analyze |
| 10:05.29 | nikxs | and question is |
| 10:05.35 | enouf | dunno offhand then |
| 10:05.43 | nikxs | if could be this dates changed |
| 10:06.25 | vampirefrog | hi guys. I'm having trouble with cdrom automount in lenny. I insert a cd/dvd but it doesn't get mounted. before (some time ago), it got mounted automagically and the icon appeared on the gnome desktop. now I have to click the 'cd/dvd drive' icon in 'Computer' to mount it... Any hints? i think it has to do with hal |
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| 10:06.45 | themill | !gnome-volume-manager |
| 10:06.45 | dpkg | it has been said that gnome-volume-manager is a package for gnome users that will automount removable volumes. aptitude install gnome-volume-manager pmount ; adduser username plugdev ; you will have to log out and back in before it works |
| 10:07.02 | enouf | vampirefrog: something to do likely with gnome's automount / volume mount features |
| 10:07.17 | vampirefrog | ok will try |
| 10:07.24 | enouf | vampirefrog: poke about in gconf, man gnome-<tab><tab> |
| 10:07.37 | enouf | vampirefrog: is the drive listed correctly in /etc/fstab ? |
| 10:07.54 | themill | vampirefrog: ^^ The other thing that happens is if you have upgraded hal, hal gets restarted and often your existing session can't talk to the restarted hal so you have to log out and log back in. |
| 10:08.03 | themill | enouf: for automounting, the drive should not be in fstab |
| 10:08.17 | enouf | themill: never used gnome ;-) |
| 10:08.18 | vampirefrog | i haven't restarted hal, this has been going on for months :) |
| 10:08.38 | CoolCold | jelly: |
| 10:08.39 | themill | vampirefrog: aptitude update && aptitude upgrade will often restart hal :( |
| 10:08.39 | enouf | themill: but i know gnome-volume-manager is buggier than a roach motel ;-) |
| 10:08.43 | vampirefrog | themill: I'm actually interested in doing this independent of gnome |
| 10:08.46 | CoolCold | finally i've awaked that box |
| 10:08.49 | CoolCold | and updated driver |
| 10:09.03 | themill | vampirefrog: /msg dpkg automount for other ideas |
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| 10:09.13 | vampirefrog | ok |
| 10:09.15 | CoolCold | looks like e1000 8.01 doesn't work |
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| 10:09.43 | enouf | vampirefrog: if it's sn internal cdrom drive, /etc/fstab should have an entry |
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| 10:10.41 | vampirefrog | I guess there's an entry only for one of the drives, and not for the other |
| 10:10.45 | enouf | vampirefrog: are you in the 'cdrom audio' groups? |
| 10:10.55 | vampirefrog | yes |
| 10:10.56 | enouf | vampirefrog: try 'groups' to tell |
| 10:10.57 | enouf | ok |
| 10:10.59 | vampirefrog | yes I am |
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| 10:11.10 | enouf | oh, well add the correct entry |
| 10:11.23 | themill | vampirefrog: there's also hal device polling that you may have disabled. |
| 10:11.36 | vampirefrog | themill: yes that might be it, how do I enable it? |
| 10:11.42 | enouf | vampirefrog: ps aux | grep hal should show you that info |
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| 10:12.03 | vampirefrog | about 6 processes |
| 10:12.05 | themill | vampirefrog: ummm.. I never have, but I know powertop always tells me that I should... |
| 10:12.10 | enouf | BTW, that's another really buggy item |
| 10:12.26 | vampirefrog | hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc (every 2 sec) |
| 10:12.28 | enouf | vampirefrog: root 28736 0.0 0.1 3168 512 ? S Apr08 0:09 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdb (every 2 sec) |
| 10:12.32 | vampirefrog | hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdd (every 2 sec) |
| 10:12.34 | enouf | is my CDRW drive |
| 10:12.39 | vampirefrog | yeah |
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| 10:12.41 | vampirefrog | :) |
| 10:12.44 | vampirefrog | I guess it is |
| 10:12.54 | enouf | ~$ grep hdb /etc/fstab |
| 10:12.55 | enouf | /dev/hdb /media/cdrom iso9660,udf ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 10:13.26 | vampirefrog | /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 10:13.30 | enouf | the noauto there only concerns boot time auto mounting |
| 10:13.43 | vampirefrog | should I add ",udf" ? |
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| 10:13.51 | enouf | vampirefrog: if you want |
| 10:13.54 | vampirefrog | k |
| 10:16.12 | themill | vampirefrog: is your cd drive actually hdb? |
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| 10:16.19 | vampirefrog | I have two |
| 10:16.21 | themill | erm hdd |
| 10:16.26 | vampirefrog | one is hdc and the other is hdd |
| 10:16.30 | vampirefrog | I'm not sure which is which |
| 10:16.35 | vampirefrog | but neither works for automount |
| 10:16.38 | vampirefrog | let me try it again |
| 10:17.02 | vampirefrog | one is a CDRW and the other is a DVDRW |
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| 10:17.15 | themill | vampirefrog: they still are those devices? They haven't changed name recently with a new kernel or some such? (Does mounting from the command line work) |
| 10:17.28 | nikxs | enouf: btw, thnx. |
| 10:17.34 | AcTiVaTe | Would there be any good reason for an admin not to install sudo on Sarge? Or was it just laziness? |
| 10:18.11 | magthe | has anyone tried installing vmware 6.5 on Debian Sid? |
| 10:18.13 | vampirefrog | themill: yes, mounting from the command line works. hdc is the DVDRW |
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| 10:18.39 | enouf | vampirefrog: make sure ls -l /dev/disk/by-* lists those drives correctly, check out what /etc/blkid.tab says. remove any stale entriesd |
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| 10:18.57 | enouf | vampirefrog: is udevd running? ps aux | grep udevd |
| 10:19.11 | dfas | hey all how can I set set time interval for deffered emails in postfix |
| 10:19.17 | Theodor | hello, what's the difference between ssh_config and sshd_config? |
| 10:19.30 | enouf | the latter is the daemon |
| 10:19.34 | vampirefrog | yes udevd --daemon |
| 10:19.39 | enouf | vampirefrog: ok |
| 10:19.56 | vampirefrog | <device DEVNO="0x0700" TIME="1189281314" LABEL="home" TYPE="iso9660">/dev/loop/0</device> |
| 10:19.58 | vampirefrog | oops |
| 10:19.58 | enouf | vampirefrog: i think your gnome settings are borked somehow |
| 10:20.04 | vampirefrog | that's /etc/blkid.tab |
| 10:20.13 | vampirefrog | yes prolly 8-| |
| 10:20.13 | enouf | vampirefrog: yeah, see, once loop mounted, hal breaks |
| 10:20.45 | enouf | i notified the cdrkit folks about it some weeks back, but never heard anythng more |
| 10:20.45 | vampirefrog | It's quite possible that gnome is broken |
| 10:20.47 | Theodor | is there a way to know if sqlite3 is installed? |
| 10:20.57 | vampirefrog | I've had several problems with it |
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| 10:21.11 | vampirefrog | I guess I'll remove ~/.gnome stuff and start from scratch |
| 10:21.30 | enouf | vampirefrog: create a brand new system user, try and see if their gnome is also not working |
| 10:21.35 | vampirefrog | enouf: can I fix /etc/blkid.tab though? |
| 10:21.36 | enouf | well, user |
| 10:21.48 | enouf | vampirefrog: you can actually mv that file out of the way |
| 10:21.54 | vampirefrog | k |
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| 10:22.16 | enouf | vampirefrog: IIRC, man blkid .. |
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| 10:22.38 | vampirefrog | brb |
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| 10:22.43 | iguanna | well, my vim is not compiled to support -xterm-clipboard |
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| 10:24.14 | enouf | iguanna: ls -l /etc/alternatives/vim |
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| 10:27.52 | iguanna | my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m489536d6 and my lspci: http://pastebin.com/m2ccfb165 |
| 10:28.01 | enouf | hrm gnome-mount - wrapper for (un)mounting and ejecting storage devices |
| 10:28.08 | iguanna | enouf, it goes for you :) |
| 10:28.17 | enouf | iguanna: aye ;-) |
| 10:28.56 | enouf | iguanna: heh, some sort of slug? |
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| 10:30.12 | vampirefrog | shucks, it's not gnome either |
| 10:31.12 | enouf | iguanna: heh. your dmesg has sevarl IDE and hda errors, and your lspci is not showing any ide controller ;-) |
| 10:31.42 | gynterk | uhmh |
| 10:31.57 | gynterk | krb5_newrealm just hangs on "Loading random data" |
| 10:32.21 | enouf | you also left out your top of dmesg showing Kernel - and further down is 244. - Kernel Version : 2.6.16-2-586 |
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| 10:32.34 | enouf | i doubt you're even running debain though |
| 10:33.02 | enouf | vampirefrog: you either - with that loop mounting /home on an iso9660 fs :-P |
| 10:33.35 | vampirefrog | yes yes |
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| 10:34.09 | enouf | iguanna: perhaps just making sure that the IDE Controller in the BIOS is "Enabled" |
| 10:34.48 | enouf | the kernel sees it 110. SIS5513: SiS 962/963 MuTIOL IDE UDMA133 controller |
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| 10:34.57 | gynterk | nevermind, got working |
| 10:35.45 | enouf | iguanna: ahh, and addin Card 106. SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:02.5 |
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| 10:38.32 | vampirefrog | enouf: I guess I'll figure it out eventually :) |
| 10:38.34 | vampirefrog | gtg |
| 10:38.36 | vampirefrog | thanks |
| 10:38.37 | vampirefrog | bye |
| 10:38.43 | enouf | ok |
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| 10:44.20 | gynterk | how to test if kerberos works? |
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| 10:44.46 | Penix | you've set it up haven't you? you should know how to use it |
| 10:48.31 | portablejim_ | I have heard about debian support being through mailing lists. Has this moved mostly to the forums? |
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| 10:50.31 | iguanna | enouf, sorry i had to go out |
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| 10:50.50 | iguanna | yes my system is based in debian |
| 10:51.33 | iguanna | and then to plug my new hard disk (fat32) ? |
| 10:51.52 | iguanna | to plug, make sure that it is enable in bios, and reboot? |
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| 10:52.47 | Penix | portablejim_: no |
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| 10:53.09 | iguanna | and i can to handle this hard disk? to copy my 'tar' backup there. |
| 10:53.30 | sixty6murph | hi, trying to remove portmap but can't stop daemon, or is at least taking very long. |
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| 10:57.15 | sixty6murph | tried killing portmap (successfully) but apt still tries to stop the daemon and freezes |
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| 10:58.56 | enouf | iguanna: lines 106 - 123 or so, show all good for your HDD and CD Drives - but 197 -213 or so show troubles .. seems your swsuspend/hibernate is borking things - but this is #debian, we only support Debian here, not Based-On-debian .. so please ask elsewhere - try ##linux maybe |
| 10:59.02 | andrboot | Hi; anyone help me with this http://pastebin.com/m67b6ebfc to make my thtv tunercard work? |
| 10:59.27 | Haris1 | Hello people |
| 10:59.29 | Haris1 | I have a problem |
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| 10:59.45 | tonyb486 | Don't we all |
| 11:00.14 | dfas | hey all what is the story behind Linux using a penguin as the logo |
| 11:00.47 | Penix | dfas: look it up with google. there's plenty of info around |
| 11:01.03 | themill | !tux |
| 11:01.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, tux is a like, a cute cuddly penguin. Worship him. the logo of Linux, or the linux logo because once, while on vacation in the southern hemisphere, Linus Torvalds was bitten on the hand by a penguin! http://www.gnomemeeting.org/images/Carlos-PenguinEkiga.png |
| 11:01.13 | Haris1 | I have 1x builtin and 3x NIC hooked into a box. Whenever I run /etc/init.d/networking restart, it says eth1 failed to become up. All other interfaces become up. Furthermore, it pings its own interface IP on eth1, but if I try to ping anything after it, it says network is unreachable. I thought it was routes, but its not routing. Even if I try to set a route, it tells me network is unreachable |
| 11:01.18 | Penix | and his hand started growing feathers |
| 11:01.35 | Haris1 | This effectively makes me need to reboot the box whenever I have to restart networking |
| 11:02.28 | enouf | Penix: ever seen him walk? he waddles now :-P |
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| 11:03.35 | mib_1q4snkd7 | hi |
| 11:04.16 | Haris1 | when I run ifconfig eth1 up, it says its up |
| 11:04.24 | Haris1 | but I get the same Network is unreachable message |
| 11:04.38 | iguanna | well, the fails maybe doubt to a fall down, i am going to plug my hard disk and try thanks |
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| 11:05.39 | Haris1 | Is there a way to check what is causing this. I don't get any messages in syslog that give me a clue |
| 11:05.54 | sixty6murph | is there a way of forcing removal of a package? |
| 11:06.27 | Haris1 | sixty6murph: aptitude purge package-name |
| 11:06.30 | sixty6murph | misbehaving/broken package, apt keeps freezing trying to stop/remove it. |
| 11:06.55 | Haris1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:07.13 | Haris1 | sixty6murph: aptitude -f purge package-name |
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| 11:08.42 | mib_1q4snkd7 | why do "start mta" take very long time when booting? |
| 11:08.44 | sixty6murph | Haris1: tried but failed, prob is the portmap daemon doesn't want to be stopped, so apt-get stuck. |
| 11:08.59 | sixty6murph | i mean aptitude -f .... |
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| 11:09.44 | themill | mib_1q4snkd7: is your network up at that point? It can be waiting for dns calls. Is this exim? |
| 11:09.49 | Haris1 | sixty6murph: can you stop it manually? |
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| 11:11.09 | mib_1q4snkd7 | themill:no yes,it is exim4. |
| 11:11.27 | sixty6murph | Haris1: i don't know how, apart from killing it. |
| 11:12.43 | themill | mib_1q4snkd7: if you reconfigure exim with the "minimise dns lookups option" that will help a lot. dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 11:12.57 | sixty6murph | ok, i have tried stopping it properly via init.d |
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| 11:14.23 | sixty6murph | same story as apt, just "Stopping portmap daemon...", doing nothing else. |
| 11:15.15 | Haris1 | I have no other suggestion, but to kill it, unless you are using it for something |
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| 11:15.23 | Haris1 | One more thing guys |
| 11:15.33 | themill | sixty6murph: do you have nfs shares mounted? |
| 11:15.43 | sixty6murph | Haris1: yeah i'll just keep hammering at it. cheers. |
| 11:15.43 | Haris1 | The new kernel I installed from sid, its installed and configured in /boot/grub/menu.lst but its not being shown in the boot menu |
| 11:15.48 | Haris1 | What could be causing this? |
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| 11:16.11 | sixty6murph | themill: no, i have no use whatsoever for portmap, it's not being used by anything else |
| 11:16.21 | mib_1q4snkd7 | themill: I tried and it does works,Thanks! |
| 11:16.27 | Haris1 | I stop portmap as soon as my box boots |
| 11:16.28 | themill | mib_1q4snkd7: excellent. |
| 11:17.28 | sixty6murph | i'm (hopefully) gonna be attemping a kernel rebuild soon so it doesn't really matter so much. |
| 11:17.38 | Haris1 | How can I debug/check why eth1 is failing to come up? |
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| 11:20.35 | larsemil | Haris1: maybe dmesg? |
| 11:21.02 | Haris1 | larsemil: well, it is up when the box boots |
| 11:21.09 | Haris1 | so, that's not going to help |
| 11:21.11 | themill | dpkg: exim boot stall is <reply>If your network is not up when exim tries to start at boot time then the "Starting mta..." step can take a long time because exim is waiting for DNS lookups to time out. Reducing the number of queries can help this: run "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" and say yes to "Keep number of DNS-queries minimal". |
| 11:21.11 | dpkg | okay, themill |
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| 11:21.17 | enouf | Haris1: your /etc/kernel-img.conf might be not up to date, concerning the lines; postinst_hook = /usr/sbin/update-grub postrm_hook = /usr/sbin/update-grub |
| 11:21.43 | Haris1 | hmm |
| 11:22.09 | enouf | Haris1: oh, i misunderstrood - you likely are seeing the wrong menu.lst |
| 11:22.17 | Haris1 | enouf: well, its set |
| 11:22.18 | enouf | Haris1: i had that issue once ;-) |
| 11:22.22 | Haris1 | hmm |
| 11:22.35 | Haris1 | I hope you remember the fix :D |
| 11:22.43 | enouf | i bet you have atleast 2 HDDs with grub installed |
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| 11:23.05 | Haris1 | yep, this box has 2 scsi hard drives, with raid0 disk mirroring |
| 11:23.20 | enouf | Haris1: well, the wrong menu.lst is appearing , which means the wrong one is loading |
| 11:23.34 | Haris1 | I need to rebuild the raid array? |
| 11:23.56 | enouf | how about /boot ? |
| 11:24.00 | enouf | are they raided? |
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| 11:24.50 | Haris1 | well, I just ran update-grub and it said it found two images and updated menu.lst |
| 11:24.52 | Haris1 | yes |
| 11:24.56 | Haris1 | software raid |
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| 11:25.17 | enouf | but /boot is on separate partitions from / .. right? |
| 11:25.21 | Haris1 | ./boot is no / with is -> /dev/md0 31G 9.1G 20G 32% / |
| 11:25.30 | Haris1 | no=on |
| 11:25.49 | enouf | well, see if that update-grub did it |
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| 11:25.58 | enouf | if not try drli |
| 11:26.21 | enouf | dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-VERSION |
| 11:27.50 | Haris1 | Running postinst hook script /sbin/update-grub. |
| 11:27.50 | Haris1 | You shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub instead! |
| 11:27.59 | Haris1 | it completed its work |
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| 11:29.27 | enouf | dpkg: drliv is dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-VERSION ; ask me about <update-grub> and <etch upgade kernel> , or perhaps <sid upgade kernel>, or <lilo->grub> |
| 11:29.27 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
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| 11:31.21 | mib_1q4snkd7 | How to auto mount a NTFS partition when booting? Now I have to use ntfs-3g mount that partition everytime I access it. |
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| 11:31.50 | acemi | add a line in /etc/fstab |
| 11:32.11 | Haris1 | In lsmod's output, I see -> e100 32232 0 |
| 11:32.24 | Haris1 | In dmesg's output, I see eth0, eth1, eth2 as e100 |
| 11:32.32 | Haris1 | Isn't this is a very big contrast |
| 11:32.33 | Haris1 | ? |
| 11:32.33 | enouf | dpkg drliv is also ask me about <initramfs> or <blacklist-initramfs> |
| 11:32.34 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
| 11:32.41 | iguanna | i am mounting another hard disk doing: mount -t HPFS/NTFS /dev/hdc1 /mnt but it tells me: unknown filesystem type! |
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| 11:33.21 | debian | Hello |
| 11:33.31 | the_sniff | anyone happen to know the config field for postfix to limit smtp to certain ips? |
| 11:33.36 | debian | When will the next release be done? |
| 11:33.46 | enouf | !wir |
| 11:33.46 | dpkg | i guess wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 11:33.54 | the_sniff | !RSN |
| 11:33.54 | dpkg | i guess rsn is Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh" |
| 11:34.04 | the_sniff | !SIYH |
| 11:34.04 | dpkg | i guess siyh is Sooner If You Help. How? http://qa.debian.org http://wiki.debian.org/BSP |
| 11:34.10 | the_sniff | hehe |
| 11:34.22 | debian | Wery helpfull information. |
| 11:34.26 | debian | Very* |
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| 11:35.11 | abuyazan | hello |
| 11:35.14 | mib_1q4snkd7 | iguanna: the type of /dev/hdc1 is NTFS? |
| 11:35.37 | abuyazan | i want to define a host in hosts file, but it still resolve it from the DNS , how can i do it ? |
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| 11:36.05 | iguanna | well i tried this: mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/anywhere and worked fine |
| 11:36.17 | vsd | anyone using monit? does it require to run a client daemon on the remote node in order to watch for their services? |
| 11:37.04 | enouf | dpkg drliv =~ s/VERSION/VERSION - running this will update your initrd/ |
| 11:37.04 | dpkg | OK, enouf |
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| 11:37.35 | iguanna | the name right of my type i don't know what is? to find out i did: fdisk -l and it displayed HPFS/NTFS |
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| 11:39.03 | enouf | iguanna: file -s /dev/hdc1 |
| 11:39.54 | enouf | and iguanna ; please do; "/msg dpkg based on debian" in your irc client |
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| 11:41.55 | mib_1q4snkd7 | iguanna: HPFS/NTFS is the type NTFS,maybe you can try using ntfs-3g to mount it instead. |
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| 11:42.51 | abrotman | don't think he needs ntfs-3g if he just wants to read |
| 11:42.58 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 11:42.58 | dpkg | <Zap-W> what is DD <greycat> ~DD <dpkg> it has been said that dd is a Debian Developer <Zap-W> KK <Zap-W> why the abriviation <lazarus> Zap-W: why any abbreviation? to shorten! <Zap-W> lazarus: it alienates ppl <greycat> Zap-W: you can't complain about abbreviations AND THEN USE THEM in the same sentence. <Zap-W> suck bananas <asg> ~fruitsmite Zap-W * dpkg smites Zap-W with a dozen pineapples |
| 11:43.49 | mib_1q4snkd7 | maybe |
| 11:44.57 | debian | ~fruitsmite debian |
| 11:44.57 | apt | ACTION smites debian with a pair of pears |
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| 11:48.21 | enouf | !be apt barbie |
| 11:48.21 | dpkg | But apt is soooooo hard! :`( Ken, call me a waaaaahbulance *cry* |
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| 11:49.08 | Haris1 | when I run reportbg and am done with viewing bugs for a certain package, how do I check bugs for another package without exiting reportbug? |
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| 11:49.08 | Haris1 | reportbug+ |
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| 11:49.27 | Coke | How can I make gdm display a chooser (instead of login) that has only one predefined host and does not scan for other xdmcp hosts? |
| 11:49.37 | enouf | hrm, i forget offhand - try apt-listbugs pkg? |
| 11:49.38 | Haris1 | Is there an older kernel that can be used on etch, that doesn't have problems with ip_conntrack? |
| 11:49.42 | iguanna | iguannago is the same person |
| 11:49.50 | iguanna | than iguanna |
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| 11:50.06 | Haris1 | I have scsi hard drives with software raid, 4 NIC, nothing fancy in this box |
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| 11:50.13 | Haris1 | ..O and SMP |
| 11:50.17 | enouf | Coke: gdm-conf? |
| 11:50.36 | Haris1 | and I need cifs (large file and large number of files) support |
| 11:50.45 | Coke | enouf: haha. funny. |
| 11:50.53 | enouf | Haris1: kmuto imagesa are newer, but only slightly altered |
| 11:51.09 | mmc | how can I extract the Version from debian/changelog ? Or even better, how can I obtain the list of .debs created by running "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" |
| 11:51.27 | iguannago | mib_1q4snkd7, i need also write on my hard disk recently mounted |
| 11:51.35 | enouf | Haris1: or just take etch sources and roll your own |
| 11:52.39 | themill | mmc: there should be a .changes file created by dpkg-buildpackage |
| 11:52.50 | iguannago | it's weird because when i do: mount, i can see this harddisk mountes (rw) |
| 11:53.04 | iguannago | it means that i can read an write no? |
| 11:53.14 | enouf | mmc: man grep-status might be able to help, but i'm not too familiar with it |
| 11:53.15 | iguannago | but i can only read |
| 11:55.23 | mib_1q4snkd7 | iguannago: ntfs-3g can do both read and write.it seems use mount you can't write to a NTFS partition except reading from it. |
| 11:55.34 | testi | Which kernel versions on kernel.org receive security updates? |
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| 11:56.29 | iguannago | then i can try with: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdc1 /mnt ? |
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| 11:58.28 | mib_1q4snkd7 | first you should install ntfs-3g use apt,then use sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hdc1 /mnt to mount it. |
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| 12:00.35 | iguannago | mib_1q4snkd7, can not i mount it through 'mount command' ? |
| 12:00.48 | iguannago | to read/write ? |
| 12:00.54 | abrotman | mib_1q4snkd7: etch doesn't have ntfs-3g unless you use backports.org |
| 12:01.19 | Coke | I'm looking to configre gdm, kdm or xdm to make logins via XDMCP to a specific remote host instead of defaulting to host chooser or local login. Is this possible? |
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| 12:03.40 | mib_1q4snkd7 | ntfs-3g is a command like mount so... BTW I use lenny,do you use etch? |
| 12:04.16 | azeem | Coke: I think you'd rather just configure X to query the remote gdm/kdm etc. |
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| 12:04.46 | Coke | azeem: mm. ok |
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| 12:05.31 | enouf | Coke: kdm has a file:///etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess |
| 12:05.48 | enouf | # Xaccess - Access control file for XDMCP connections |
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| 12:07.45 | enouf | Coke: just a fyi, "dpkg-reconfigure ?dm" to set which is the default if you install a few |
| 12:08.03 | Coke | azeem: thanks, that worked splendidly. |
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| 12:08.48 | |bb7| | how can I tell to the dns tool "dig" it should use a special nameserver? |
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| 12:09.42 | JyZyXEL | how do i make so that eth1 is not automatically in any case bringed up |
| 12:09.50 | JyZyXEL | only when i manually ask for it |
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| 12:10.10 | enouf | Jimbalaya: allow-hotplug? |
| 12:10.19 | enouf | !interfaces |
| 12:10.20 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client> read "man resolv.conf" for DNS also ask me about <static route> |
| 12:10.28 | Jimbalaya | enouf: wrong person |
| 12:10.35 | enouf | gah |
| 12:10.39 | enouf | sorry |
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| 12:10.43 | Jimbalaya | it's ok |
| 12:10.50 | enouf | JyZyXEL: see above |
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| 12:11.16 | mib_ll2rkv9u | |bb7|: dig @server name type , server is the name or IP address of the name server to query. |
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| 12:13.24 | JyZyXEL | i wonder if DHCP client can ask for some spesific IP-address |
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| 12:13.36 | the_sniff | yeah, it's called static ip |: |
| 12:13.41 | JyZyXEL | like what it would prefer |
| 12:13.50 | JyZyXEL | oh |
| 12:14.01 | JyZyXEL | could you make interface first try static and then DHCP |
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| 12:15.03 | mib_ll2rkv9u | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:15.32 | JyZyXEL | i don't relly understand how static IP addressing works |
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| 12:15.53 | A_I_ | hello |
| 12:16.15 | A_I_ | does someone know a place where I can find a .deb for clamav-0.93 ? |
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| 12:17.21 | mib_ll2rkv9u | maybe you can see the Wikipedia entry for it. |
| 12:18.15 | JyZyXEL | don't get it why one of my boxes randomly crashes with every operating systems |
| 12:18.32 | mquin | I'm pretty sure you can send a DHCPREQUEST with any address you like |
| 12:18.37 | JyZyXEL | gonna do week of memory testing |
| 12:18.51 | mquin | if it's available for assignment the server should acknowlege it |
| 12:19.25 | mquin | I'm not sure how many clients would let you do that in an arbitry fashion though |
| 12:19.40 | the_sniff | JyZyXEL in static, you request a specific one |
| 12:20.02 | the_sniff | but you can configure a DHCP server to give you the same IP each time using your MAC address to set an IP for it |
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| 12:20.55 | the_sniff | JyZyXEL it's probably h/w issues :s |
| 12:21.27 | the_sniff | JyZyXEL see if the box gets warm |
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| 12:22.24 | fAkiE | hi |
| 12:22.31 | fAkiE | i've got a question to dmraid under kanotix live-cd |
| 12:22.36 | fAkiE | raid is looking for the module under the old name. is there a possibility to rename the module or to load the old module into the kernel? |
| 12:22.40 | stew | fAkiE: ask #kanotix |
| 12:22.53 | fAkiE | i'm trying to activate my raid5-volume. but dmraid doesn't find the raid45 module. the module is called raid456 now. but dmraid is looking for the module under the old name. is there a possibility to rename the module or to load the old module into the kernel? |
| 12:23.07 | JyZyXEL | the_sniff ionno :\ |
| 12:23.07 | fAkiE | thx, but nobody is answering in #kanotix |
| 12:23.13 | JyZyXEL | so hard to know |
| 12:23.19 | azeem | fAkiE: then try again later |
| 12:23.22 | stew | fAkiE: try a kanotix mailing list or web forum then |
| 12:24.03 | fAkiE | thx.. but i thought it could be a general debian-based question how to rename a module or load an old module into the kernel |
| 12:24.44 | fAkiE | isn't it? |
| 12:25.06 | the_sniff | try #linux then :s |
| 12:25.12 | abrotman | ##linux |
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| 12:25.58 | the_sniff | wouldn't it auto redirect? |
| 12:26.15 | the_sniff | i never got the double # |
| 12:26.24 | the_sniff | i remember reading something about it :s |
| 12:26.41 | Schmidt | non-official channel. |
| 12:27.04 | Schmidt | and/or not F/LOSS |
| 12:27.36 | the_sniff | F/LOSS? |
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| 12:27.50 | the_sniff | ph |
| 12:27.51 | the_sniff | oh |
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| 12:27.59 | the_sniff | thanks |
| 12:30.30 | mib_ll2rkv9u | does anybody know how to automount a NTFS partition when booting? |
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| 12:31.00 | Schmidt | mib_ll2rkv9u, add them to your /etc/fstab |
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| 12:33.22 | mib_ll2rkv9u | the type is NTFS or somthing else? |
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| 12:34.22 | Schmidt | try ? |
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| 12:37.53 | mib_ll2rkv9u | is it safe to try?I mean the data there. |
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| 12:38.32 | abrotman | !ntfsrw |
| 12:38.33 | dpkg | ntfsrw is, like, available starting with lenny with <ntfs-3g>, or with ntfsmount from ntfsprogs. |
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| 12:39.43 | mib_ll2rkv9u | how can I use it? |
| 12:40.08 | abrotman | in etch? |
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| 12:40.36 | mib_ll2rkv9u | using lenny. |
| 12:40.56 | abrotman | !find ntfs-3g lenny |
| 12:41.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'ntfs-3g' (3): (/usr/lib/{libntfs-3g.so.24|libntfs-3g.so.24.0.0}) in libs/libntfs-3g24 ;; (/sbin/mount.ntfs-3g, /usr/share/doc/ntfs-3g, /usr/bin/{ntfs-3g|ntfs-3g.probe}) in otherosfs/ntfs-3g ;; (/usr/lib/libntfs-3g.so, /usr/share/doc/libntfs-3g-dev, /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libntfs-3g.pc) in libdevel/libntfs-3g-dev. |
| 12:41.29 | abrotman | !info ntfs-3g lenny |
| 12:41.33 | dpkg | ntfs-3g: (read-write NTFS driver for FUSE), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1:1.2310-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 92 kB |
| 12:42.49 | mib_ll2rkv9u | I have installed it.how can i use it to automount the NTFS partition when booting? I mean not manually. |
| 12:43.19 | delcoyote | hi |
| 12:43.19 | abrotman | man mount .. man fstab |
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| 12:52.30 | mib_ll2rkv9u | I still can't figure it out. when booting does the system use mount or ntfs-3g to mount a NTFS partition? |
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| 12:55.35 | mib_ll2rkv9u | NICK Ivan |
| 12:55.44 | mib_ll2rkv9u | ? |
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| 13:16.39 | vsd | is there a benchmark for cpus that i can try? |
| 13:16.43 | vsd | with bash |
| 13:17.26 | asg | vsd: compiling a kernel is generally very effective |
| 13:17.37 | vsd | not that time consuming |
| 13:18.06 | cire | Hi, always when starting iceweasel I get this "iceweasel is already running" error. Googled around a bit, but the only solution (changing APPLICATION_ID) won't work for me, since it was set correctly to "firefox". Do you have any ideas? |
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| 13:18.34 | clmar | hi |
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| 13:18.53 | magthe | can I somehow get Samba to deal with the DFS-crap? |
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| 13:18.56 | clmar | there is an free sw alternative to vmware esx? |
| 13:19.30 | magthe | clmar: I believe Xen is the closest thing... I'be been known to be wrong in the past though :) |
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| 13:20.23 | clmar | magthe: but you can have a windows guest with xen? |
| 13:20.25 | themill | cire: probably because iceweasel is already running.... ps ax | grep firefox .... failing that, it has crashing in a cruel and unusual way. |
| 13:20.44 | mquin | clmar: yes, but it depends on your CPU having VM extensions |
| 13:21.12 | cire | no, there's no such process in "ps ax". Checked that before... |
| 13:21.27 | cire | perhaps reinstalling will help |
| 13:21.58 | mquin | otherwise I think virutalbox is the closest |
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| 13:22.04 | magthe | clmar: yes, I believe you can |
| 13:22.22 | magthe | never tried it myself though... not the FLOSS version of Xen anyway |
| 13:22.24 | halflife08 | cire: nah u don't have to reinstall |
| 13:22.41 | themill | cire: have a look in ~/.mozilla/firefox/ there will be a lock and .parentlock files. Deleting them should fix it up. |
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| 13:24.00 | cire | damn, this worked. Searched for lock-files in .mozilla, but thought .parentlock would be sth other... Thanks guys. |
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| 13:29.40 | IvanShi | is there any LiveCD of Debian? |
| 13:30.00 | debian | IvanShi: Many |
| 13:30.25 | IvanShi | such as... |
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| 13:31.53 | themill | !live |
| 13:31.53 | dpkg | methinks live is The Debian Live project provides prebuilt Debian live system images and allows to create your own. http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ and #debian-live on oftc.net (irc.debian.org), or http://live.debian.net/live-webhelper/ |
| 13:32.48 | clmar | nice |
| 13:33.07 | ronr | is there any app in debian that can lint some javascript (I did find a cli app called js but it suffers from a serious lack of documentation) |
| 13:33.14 | Trevelyan` | also http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ but i know nothing about it |
| 13:33.26 | clmar | I'll use in production environment with w2003 server I'll search for docs about that:) |
| 13:33.28 | Trevelyan` | oh its the same. |
| 13:34.24 | magthe | clmar: yes... I know there's some black magic involved under the bonnet of Xen in order for it to run Windows... I sincerely hope that's included in the FLOSS version |
| 13:35.04 | IvanShi | can I install it to the hard disk from the LiveCD like Ubuntu? |
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| 13:35.28 | clmar | citris acquires xensource! |
| 13:35.30 | clmar | citrix |
| 13:35.40 | azeem | clmar: last autumn |
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| 13:36.04 | maxigas | how do i make a password protected tar or zip file uninteractively? |
| 13:36.20 | testi | How can I compile the xine package, so that it's invulnerable to the countless buffer overflow exploits? |
| 13:38.10 | themill | testi: Are the packages in debian vulnerable? |
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| 13:40.29 | Ted` | http://ircx.forum0.info/ <--- plz register :) thanx |
| 13:40.34 | testi | themill: I don't know, but I can read almost daily about xine security flaws, so i just want to go sure and compile it with range checking options etc. |
| 13:40.39 | stew | testi: do you have mitre IDs for these vulnerabilities? (they would be numbers starting with CVE-)? |
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| 13:41.00 | themill | stew: thanks |
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| 13:43.01 | simonrvn | ty stew |
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| 13:43.49 | testi | stew: No. But since xine had too many flaws in the last time I don't think that it's a library designed with security in mind, so I think I should use safe compiler options on that library. |
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| 13:47.03 | stew | testi: /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules ; i'd recommend seeing if these bugs are fixed first before I wasted too much time recompiling it needlessly though |
| 13:48.24 | testi | thanks |
| 13:48.26 | Trevelyan` | testi, apt-get source libxine; cd into it and make your changes, possibly in debian/rules |
| 13:48.46 | VAENILICIOUS | Why it say "Done : | :" for my friend when he login on his computer ? |
| 13:48.49 | Trevelyan` | then dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot -b =) |
| 13:49.26 | mark_s | hi all, I have a qusetion not related to debian. But here I get always very solid and good reply. We look for a new provider since we want to offer our customer an ftp download of there files. We do not necesseraly need http. Space should be around 50 GB. So far I found midphase and startlogic, but are they any good. Or do you know a good provider? Thank you. |
| 13:49.31 | justin | VAENILICIOUS: :|: looks like remnants of a fork bomb |
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| 13:50.12 | VAENILICIOUS | justin: how to fix that ? |
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| 13:50.39 | iateadonut | what is the best room to go to to discuss crm's? |
| 13:50.57 | Trevelyan` | check is login scripts, eg .bashrc .bash_profile .profile .login, etc... |
| 13:50.58 | justin | VAENILICIOUS: does grep ':|' .* find anything? |
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| 13:51.36 | Trevelyan` | | has special meaning to grep |
| 13:52.43 | justin | not in that case |
| 13:53.09 | stew | Trevelyan`: it has special meaning to grep -E or egrep. however you can use 'fgrep' to search for strings instead of patterns if you prefer |
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| 13:56.21 | Romik | hi, I'm use Lenny, and sometimes have problems with pidgin, here is strace output: http://pastebin.com/m5554a7d3 I'm run pidgin, his starting, show contact list with members, after few times not responded |
| 13:56.42 | Romik | whe can I send bug report? |
| 13:56.42 | Romik | * where |
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| 13:58.27 | FordCortina | how do you cat a log file and have it update the screen? |
| 13:58.41 | FordCortina | i can't remember if cat is the command now |
| 13:59.00 | justin | FordCortina: tail ? |
| 13:59.02 | mans | tail -f /var/log/logname? |
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| 14:00.10 | FordCortina | ah tail |
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| 14:00.17 | FordCortina | thanks |
| 14:00.19 | mans | np |
| 14:00.21 | beerNcoffee | ok |
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| 14:00.39 | beerNcoffee | I look for debeian EEE |
| 14:00.43 | beerNcoffee | ? |
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| 14:00.58 | beerNcoffee | love the timer 1000 bit |
| 14:00.59 | themill | !eeepc |
| 14:00.59 | dpkg | http://debian-eeepc.alioth.debian.org/, or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC, or #debian-eeepc @ irc.oftc.net |
| 14:01.21 | themill | !tell linuxcbon about root |
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| 14:01.27 | deufrai | I'm considering using openLDAP as a central authentication facility. before going any further, a simple question : Is it possible to set user's shell within the LDAP directory ? |
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| 14:01.43 | beerNcoffee | I havent used Irc in 20 years ... am using gaim and cant connect |
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| 14:02.55 | Penix | beerNcoffee: can't connect to what? |
| 14:03.23 | beerNcoffee | the chat room debeian eee irc |
| 14:03.31 | beerNcoffee | using gaim |
| 14:03.40 | Penix | beerNcoffee: /j #debian-eeepc |
| 14:03.55 | Penix | beerNcoffee: after you've connected to the oftc server |
| 14:03.57 | beerNcoffee | /;] |
| 14:04.38 | beerNcoffee | laterz |
| 14:04.51 | Penix | !aolify beerNcoffee |
| 14:04.51 | dpkg | whispers 'pls stfu kthx' in beerNcoffee's ear |
| 14:05.14 | beerNcoffee | welcome I think |
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| 14:08.10 | Joelito | Hi all, I ned to confirm this: |
| 14:08.10 | st1650 | Does AMD64 offers any performance increase over i386 for a lamp server which has less than 2 gig of ram? |
| 14:08.25 | simonrvn | deufrai: yes, and a lot more. www.openldap.org and the various rfcs |
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| 14:08.47 | Joelito | debian etch + xfce4, doesn't have the "Time and Date" menu entry in xfce->System? |
| 14:08.49 | deufrai | simonrvn: ok, thanx. reading my way out, then |
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| 14:09.17 | simonrvn | server? i'd do 64b anyway |
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| 14:10.04 | simonrvn | !tell CaspeR_Bz -about root |
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| 14:13.35 | themill | !tell CaspeR_Bz about root |
| 14:13.54 | themill | !win simonrvn |
| 14:13.54 | dpkg | Congratulations, simonrvn! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 14:14.11 | simonrvn | some people just don't care |
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| 14:14.29 | simonrvn | i just love r00ted boxen. not |
| 14:16.05 | themill | simonrvn: some routers and irc clients have silly idents so it's not necessarily a root user; just 90%+ of the time it is. |
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| 14:16.47 | mbuf | for debian source packages, if we have multiple src/ directories, we can have only one debian/rules file? |
| 14:17.00 | simonrvn | i'm aware of that, i do that anyway, for that 90-95%+ |
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| 14:17.05 | CruX | hello |
| 14:17.26 | mib_ll2rkv9u | does anybody use Xfce? does it use less RAM? |
| 14:17.43 | CruX | what is the name of new filesysttem from nokia which should replace JFFS2 ? |
| 14:17.52 | Joelito | mib_ll2rkv9u: Yes, less ram. |
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| 14:19.25 | hjb | Does anyone knows a good bookmark merging tool (for firefox) ? |
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| 14:19.58 | mib_ll2rkv9u | is it difficult for a newbie to use Xfce? |
| 14:20.04 | hjb | It's "Import" function is really stupid regarding handling of folders |
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| 14:20.20 | Faze | Hello, When im logging into my user in a terminal its says Done - | - , whats the problem ? |
| 14:20.22 | Joelito | mib_ll2rkv9u: Nop, easly :) |
| 14:20.34 | htmlolz | Faze: it appears it's done. :P |
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| 14:22.33 | Faze | Anyone here ? |
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| 14:22.57 | Leeuw | is there an easier way to install nvidia drivers than the one mentioned in nvidia readme (on the website), like a .deb package or so ? |
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| 14:23.16 | Leeuw | or through synaptic, like in ubuntu ? |
| 14:23.18 | edwin_quijada | Hi! |
| 14:23.38 | edwin_quijada | How can I know when a user was created and by who? |
| 14:24.11 | halflife08 | edwin_quijada: only root can create users unless you have a wrapper written around it |
| 14:24.13 | mib_ll2rkv9u | Joelito: really? how can I install it in Gnome? cause my PC is very old,and it is very slow to use Gnome. |
| 14:24.28 | edwin_quijada | Somebody created a user in my system and I wanna know the account was |
| 14:25.02 | htmlolz | chances are it was root... |
| 14:25.09 | htmlolz | or someone using a wrapper like sudo |
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| 14:25.12 | halflife08 | edwin_quijada: a look /etc/passwd can help |
| 14:25.18 | htmlolz | oh whoops seems like halflife08 already said it :) |
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| 14:25.38 | Joelito | mib_ll2rkv9u: Sure, but you'll have to change the session entry so you can log into xfce |
| 14:25.57 | abrotman | edwin_quijada: you could look at the create date of their $HOME directory |
| 14:26.12 | abrotman | wait .. nevermind |
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| 14:26.33 | edwin_quijada | halflife08: I saw the passwd but doesnt tell me about the user |
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| 14:26.55 | mib_ll2rkv9u | really? how can I install it in Gnome? cause my PC is very old,and it is very slow to use Gnome. Joelito: from gdm? |
| 14:27.02 | stew | edwin_quijada: it must have been created by root. you should be able to get some clues about who has gained root access by looking for logins to root, su to root and sudo in /var/log/auth.log |
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| 14:27.09 | themill | Faze: pastebin your ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc |
| 14:27.11 | halflife08 | edwin_quijada: eh?? what info do you need about the user? does the user not exist in /etc/passwd is that you are saying ? |
| 14:27.21 | mib_ll2rkv9u | Joelito: from gdm? |
| 14:27.36 | Joelito | mib_ll2rkv9u: apt-get install gnome |
| 14:27.45 | Pryon | Installation of some programs will cause a user to be added (again, by root). What's the username? |
| 14:27.47 | Joelito | you can also try see what's in gnome-core |
| 14:27.57 | Joelito | or in gnome-desktop-environment |
| 14:28.16 | junix|work | how do i setup user accounts so that the first thing it does is ask them to change their password? |
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| 14:28.37 | edwin_quijada | halflife08:I need just when was created and by who |
| 14:28.53 | edwin_quijada | I saw passwd but it doesnt me |
| 14:29.02 | stew | edwin_quijada: "it doesnt me" ? |
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| 14:29.26 | htmlolz | a'ight that's better |
| 14:29.36 | mib_ll2rkv9u | use apt-get install gnome to install xfce? i want to switch to xfce instead gnome. |
| 14:29.45 | halflife08 | edwin_quijada: okay , what is the username you are reffering to? one can possibly eliminate between usernames added by packages/default usernames added by debian vs usernames of people |
| 14:30.04 | Faze | I cleaned my .bashrc and now its works :D |
| 14:30.22 | Joelito | ah |
| 14:30.23 | Joelito | sorry |
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| 14:30.33 | Joelito | apt-get instal xfce4 |
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| 14:31.35 | htmlolz | lol |
| 14:31.45 | htmlolz | (oh wait sorry I'm not supposed to lol :P) |
| 14:32.23 | mib_ll2rkv9u | Joelito: ok. then what? is it over? |
| 14:32.57 | Pryon | You'll proably need to log out and then choose xvfce in your session manager when you log back in |
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| 14:33.08 | Pryon | s/v// |
| 14:33.10 | junix|work | hi, i am trying to setup my users accounts so that when someone logs in for the first time it prompts them to change their passwords, how do i go about doing this? |
| 14:34.34 | esteel | is there actually a way to make debian use sudo instead of (gk)su? |
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| 14:35.26 | htmlolz | umm type sudo instead? lol |
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| 14:37.51 | esteel | haha funny.. |
| 14:38.11 | mib_ll2rkv9u | lol |
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| 14:39.52 | stew | esteel: what are you doing now that is 'making debian' use gksu or su or whatever? |
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| 14:40.57 | samtc | hi |
| 14:41.28 | themill | stew, esteel: I presume you are talking about things like the desktop shortcut for synaptic which has in it "Exec=gksu -u root /usr/sbin/synaptic" |
| 14:41.34 | esteel | stew: like clicking on System/Administration/Printer on gnome.. |
| 14:41.49 | samtc | How can I block installation of a specific package (i'm running on testing and I would like to block installation of python2.4) |
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| 14:42.15 | esteel | themill: exactly.. but i take it its hard to change then for all kind of things :( |
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| 14:42.48 | vsd | i hit dhclient |
| 14:43.02 | n3ksus | Hey, quick question, when i try and open a .php file, it keeps on opening heaps of new web browsers. I have installed php5 and all required files. just wondering on how to fix it |
| 14:43.10 | vsd | and it changed my ip |
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| 14:44.20 | themill | esteel: you can't change gksu to gksudo in the same way you can't change su to sudo -- they're syntactically different commands. There was a proposal a while ago to try to do something via alternatives, but I think it died because of this. Pity. |
| 14:44.23 | Pryon | junix|work: chage -d0 username |
| 14:44.49 | junix|work | Pryon: do i put that in the .profile? |
| 14:45.13 | esteel | themill: hmm yeah using alternatives for this would be a nice way. actually i rather add some people to the sudoers then tell them the root password :) |
| 14:45.18 | stew | n3ksus: how are you trying to open a php file? are you talking about pointing your browser at your webserver? |
| 14:45.22 | Pryon | No, you run that as root. |
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| 14:45.44 | n3ksus | i just double click on it |
| 14:45.44 | junix|work | Pryon: i need this to be done at the user level when they login, is there a way to do that? |
| 14:45.45 | Hoxzer | AS R00t |
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| 14:45.55 | n3ksus | then it opens iceweasel 100thousand times |
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| 14:50.13 | junix|work | Pryon: ?? |
| 14:50.40 | Leeuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.43 | Pryon | junix|work: I'm not aware of any, but I haven't researched it thoroughly. Is there a problem with aging the password when the account is created? That's not done at user level. |
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| 14:55.23 | ArtVandalae | Hi guys, i've noticed (according to packages.debian.org) that Debian has gstreamer-plugins-bad. Now, I'm unsure does Debian package things that are affected by patents (e.g. MP3?) I was always under the impression that they didn't. |
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| 14:55.59 | azeem | ArtVandalae: Debian has always shipped mp3 decoding |
| 14:56.04 | azeem | no mp3 encoding though |
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| 15:00.06 | aixenv | hey i need to run a script via cron at midnight est im at pst... so im thikning 3hrs ahead of me.. would this be the right cron? * 3 * * * * ? |
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| 15:00.30 | aixenv | to run at 3am everyday |
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| 15:00.39 | FreezeS | hey guys |
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| 15:00.57 | FreezeS | how can I configure the apt sources in etch by using a wizard ? like apt-config |
| 15:01.01 | Pryon | 3AM in PDT is 6AM in EDT |
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| 15:01.09 | aixenv | pryon he wants it midnight |
| 15:01.14 | Pryon | right. |
| 15:01.14 | aixenv | so 3am my time |
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| 15:01.28 | aixenv | oh crap |
| 15:01.30 | aixenv | its too early |
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| 15:01.33 | aixenv | i got it backwards |
| 15:01.34 | aixenv | lol |
| 15:01.39 | FreezeS | anyone ? |
| 15:01.40 | Pryon | If you want it to run at 00:00 EDT, you will need it to run 09:00 PDT |
| 15:01.43 | Pryon | erwww |
| 15:01.45 | Pryon | 21:00 |
| 15:01.47 | Pryon | SORRY |
| 15:01.49 | aixenv | so instead 221 |
| 15:01.51 | aixenv | 21 |
| 15:01.55 | FreezeS | or how can I restart the setup process (like base-config, also removed) ? |
| 15:01.55 | Pryon | right |
| 15:01.56 | aixenv | lol my bad dude sorry just woke up |
| 15:02.01 | aixenv | so * 21 * * * * ? |
| 15:02.06 | Pryon | I have no suche excuse :-) |
| 15:02.29 | aixenv | well i fail at simple math so ya i should go back to sleep hah |
| 15:02.37 | dutchfish | aixenv, man 5 crontab |
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| 15:03.26 | aixenv | 0 = midnight right? |
| 15:03.47 | Pryon | I believe so, yes |
| 15:04.01 | Pryon | You may have one too many '*' there |
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| 15:04.26 | aixenv | you'r right i do.. should be 3 after the # |
| 15:04.35 | warjest | Does EtchAndAHalf support the intel dg33fb motherboard? |
| 15:04.45 | dutchfish | aixenv, its min - hour - day of month - month - day of week |
| 15:05.07 | Pryon | as dutchfish recommends, man 5 crontab has plenty of good examples |
| 15:05.10 | aixenv | so if 0 = midnight.. i want * 21 * * * |
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| 15:05.32 | aixenv | thx |
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| 15:05.52 | Pryon | aixenv: Another option, if this machine is used by users in a particular timezone exclusively, is to set that machine's timezone appropriately. |
| 15:06.03 | themill | !tell aixenv about cron tutorial |
| 15:06.13 | aixenv | im lookin at the cron manpage thanks :P |
| 15:06.31 | aixenv | everyones always so quick to rtfm someone |
| 15:06.39 | aixenv | thanks for your help pryon |
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| 15:07.35 | themill | wtf? the cron tutorial is full of helpful examples... in no way was that rtfm :( |
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| 15:08.50 | Penix | how dare you offer helpful examples! |
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| 15:09.42 | themill | sulks in the corner |
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| 15:12.19 | abrotman | themill: did you know that some people are really lazy? :) |
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| 15:12.37 | themill | I had noticed. |
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| 15:13.34 | dutchfish | abrotman, themill however it took me quite some time before i actually could fully grasp the use of manpages ... ;) |
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| 15:15.17 | themill | dutchfish: you mean you do now? wow. |
| 15:15.24 | themill | bows at the feet of dutchfish |
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| 15:15.29 | dutchfish | themill, at the end .. yes |
| 15:15.40 | vaenilicious | is someone from sweden here ? |
| 15:15.48 | themill | !se |
| 15:15.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, se is Svensktalande debian-användare hittar du i #debian.se på FreeNode (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 15:16.11 | dutchfish | themill, specially the man x foo ... statement (watch the x) |
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| 15:16.22 | dutchfish | themill, ;) |
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| 15:17.15 | vaenilicious | but there's no one in debian.se |
| 15:17.21 | dutchfish | themill, till i finally did man man ... a new world appeared to me ;) |
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| 15:18.15 | vaenilicious | do someone have a swedish or finnish keyboard here then ? |
| 15:18.20 | themill | dutchfish: the trouble with most documentation is that it's either (a) written by experts who find it trivial and not really in need of documentation or (b) wrong because it is written by non-experts who contribute it to ubuntuforums. |
| 15:18.52 | vsd | how do i set a static ip with ifconfig? |
| 15:18.54 | dutchfish | themill, yes, but you finally learn to read netween the "thin" lines |
| 15:19.03 | beardy | !interfaces |
| 15:19.04 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client> read "man resolv.conf" for DNS also ask me about <static route> |
| 15:19.06 | dutchfish | s/netween/between |
| 15:19.10 | themill | vaenilicious: also try ##debian.se and #Debian.se |
| 15:19.10 | beardy | vsd: ^^^ |
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| 15:19.47 | keropok | !apt |
| 15:19.47 | dpkg | apt is probably Advanced Packaging Tool, a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, most notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude. see also <apt-get> <apt-cache> |
| 15:19.55 | keropok | !aptitude |
| 15:19.56 | dpkg | aptitude has many bugs, such as #299009, which other APT frontends do not have. Aptitude, like apt-get in lenny/sid, also installs "Recommended" packages that are usually required but you have the option not to install them. Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> |
| 15:20.01 | keropok | !dselect |
| 15:20.01 | dpkg | it has been said that dselect is a wonderful UI for package management. or really more powerful than apt-get or the only thing that provides FULL data when making decisions on whether to install a package. most people should not hate dselect but some seem to have been told to. just read the help screens, or <Ozzie> is there a dselect howto? - Yes there is: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/dselect-beginner/ Also ask me about <aptitude>. see ... |
| 15:20.05 | vaenilicious | themill: everyone is afk |
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| 15:20.47 | vaenilicious | !x |
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| 15:21.02 | vaenilicious | how to reconfigure X? |
| 15:21.10 | stew | vaenilicious: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 15:21.17 | stew | keropok: you can /msg the bot |
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| 15:21.18 | dutchfish | vaenilicious, dpkg-reconfigure xservr-xorg ? |
| 15:21.28 | vaenilicious | ty |
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| 15:22.24 | vaenilicious | it's something wrong with X |
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| 15:22.46 | stew | vaenilicious: be more specific if you want more help from us |
| 15:22.48 | rgr | which nvidia driver package in synaptic should I use for Lenny if I want dual screen working? Currently I use the nvidia driver and compile it myself but am sick of it then not working when the kernel changes. |
| 15:22.57 | catskul | why is it that "-dev" packages generally are not versioned? Im trying to revert to a previous version dev package and cant figure out how... : P |
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| 15:23.08 | vaenilicious | how do i know my keyboard model ? |
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| 15:23.21 | vaenilicious | keyboardtype |
| 15:23.34 | vaenilicious | i guess, i don't really know |
| 15:25.05 | rgr | does anybody know which debian supported nvidia driver I can use which will continue to work if the kernel changes? |
| 15:25.28 | stew | rgr: the free one, nv |
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| 15:26.08 | rgr | stew: and that supports dual screen and HW acceleration? |
| 15:26.16 | stew | rgr: no |
| 15:26.25 | rgr | dual screen? |
| 15:27.02 | rgr | stew: so pretty useless unfortunately. I guess I'm stuck with the NVidia one. |
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| 15:27.27 | vsd | how do i change the bcast value? |
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| 15:27.45 | stew | rgr: i don't know about dual screen. you wont' get hardware accelleration without a non-free kernel driver |
| 15:28.00 | stew | vsd: which value? |
| 15:28.22 | Pryon | vsd: according to the interfaces man page (hint, hint), it's 'broadcast broadcast-address' |
| 15:28.32 | stmaher | Hi guys.. weird NFS issue.. |
| 15:28.41 | rgr | I find it amazing though that theres no decent driver that I can use where I dont have to manually recompile after hitting a broken X after kernel upgrades. |
| 15:28.43 | stmaher | when I mount a remote drive.. I cannot browse /home/ |
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| 15:28.57 | stmaher | i can look at any other directory.. other than /home |
| 15:29.00 | stmaher | im exporting / |
| 15:29.07 | beardy | stmaher: Then you must have mounted it at the wrong location. |
| 15:29.08 | stmaher | and permissions seem fine.. |
| 15:29.17 | stmaher | beardy, thanks.. but im mounting / |
| 15:29.26 | beardy | stmaher: At /home? |
| 15:29.45 | stmaher | beardy, Im mounting remote machine / on another machine.. |
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| 15:29.48 | gusnan | rgr. thats the joys of closed source... |
| 15:30.01 | stmaher | beardy, the client machine should have access to everything including /home |
| 15:30.04 | beardy | stmaher: Answer. Where do you mount / from another machine? |
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| 15:30.37 | stmaher | beardy, on server i have / 10.1.109.11(ro) |
| 15:30.48 | vaenilicious | how do i download and install amarok ? |
| 15:30.53 | stmaher | on client i have 10.1.120.10:/ /mnt/taliesin/ nfs ro,auto,hard,intr 0 0 |
| 15:30.54 | beardy | !installit |
| 15:30.55 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get, or aptitude |
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| 15:31.15 | beardy | vaenilicious: aptitude install <packagename> |
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| 15:31.20 | vaenilicious | ty |
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| 15:31.45 | beardy | stmaher: I see. So you can not list /mnt/taliesin/home you mean? |
| 15:31.51 | stmaher | yep |
| 15:31.53 | stmaher | its blank |
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| 15:32.06 | stmaher | beardy, the files exist on server tho.. |
| 15:32.10 | stmaher | but nothing on client |
| 15:32.11 | beardy | stmaher: That might be because it is mounted on the other machine, and that mounts are not exported recursively. |
| 15:32.20 | stmaher | cygne:/mnt/taliesin/home# ls |
| 15:32.21 | stmaher | cygne:/mnt/taliesin/home# |
| 15:32.22 | beardy | If they aren't, apparently not. |
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| 15:32.47 | beardy | stmaher: /home on the other machine is on another filesystem, I mean. |
| 15:32.50 | stmaher | beardy, no.. its part of the filesystem |
| 15:32.58 | beardy | stmaher: Ok, no idea then. |
| 15:33.00 | stmaher | beardy, /dev/sda7 on the machine |
| 15:33.11 | vaenilicious | and if i have a package on my desktop. How do I install it ? |
| 15:33.21 | stmaher | vaenilicious, dpkg -i package |
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| 15:34.01 | stmaher | ls |
| 15:36.18 | vsd | what should be the broadcast address at the case of static ip? |
| 15:37.14 | stew | vsd: unless you know what you are doign and are doing something very non-standard, you should never have to worry about the broadcast address, and you should never be specifying it. it will be calculated for you automatically |
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| 15:40.19 | humbolto | how to import my evolution contacts into thunderbird? |
| 15:41.16 | vaenilicious | someone know how to install ventrilo ? |
| 15:41.48 | st1650 | yes |
| 15:41.52 | st1650 | takes like 20 secs |
| 15:41.55 | vaenilicious | how ? |
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| 15:42.10 | st1650 | We're talking about the server right? |
| 15:42.15 | vaenilicious | no, client |
| 15:42.21 | st1650 | ooops |
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| 15:42.24 | st1650 | nevermind |
| 15:42.24 | vaenilicious | :) |
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| 15:43.13 | st1650 | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9832 |
| 15:43.34 | vsd | stew, i can ping the host from the server that has the same bcast and netmask but not from others |
| 15:43.42 | vsd | stew, what could be the cause |
| 15:44.31 | stew | vsd: show us the output of "ifconfig ; route -n" from the involved machines ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 15:44.35 | vaenilicious | do someone know how to install ventrilo 2.1.4 client ? |
| 15:44.50 | hoxu | vaenilicious, it's not in debian, so not supported here I'm afraid |
| 15:44.55 | st1650 | vaenilicious: You'll have to use wine |
| 15:45.02 | st1650 | vaenilicious: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9832 |
| 15:45.19 | vaenilicious | that's for ubuntu ? |
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| 15:46.12 | st1650 | vaenilicious: Well the howto is for ubuntu but it should be the same for debian (alsa, wine, etc) |
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| 15:46.38 | vaenilicious | k, but im not that good on debian yet. |
| 15:47.30 | hoxu | uh-huh |
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| 15:48.32 | vsd | stew: stew this is urgent. i accidentally typed dhclient on a server that had a static ip. so now i restored the ip on the lost server but the route differs between the two |
| 15:48.37 | vsd | what should i do? |
| 15:49.27 | keith4 | is nagios 3 backported to etch? |
| 15:49.27 | jetscreamer | you could fix it |
| 15:49.27 | hoxu | vsd, ifdown/ifup the interface? |
| 15:49.27 | keith4 | more importantly, how can I found out if it is, without asking? |
| 15:49.27 | stew | keith4: "http://packages.debian.org/nagios3" should tell you |
| 15:49.27 | jetscreamer | you could find out at ... |
| 15:49.27 | keith4 | thanks stew |
| 15:49.31 | stew | vsd: route differs between the two what? |
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| 15:50.48 | vsd | stew, between the two servers |
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| 15:51.31 | vsd | hoxu, i did nothing |
| 15:51.35 | stew | 11:43 < stew> vsd: show us the output of "ifconfig ; route -n" from the involved machines ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 15:51.38 | hoxu | vsd, did you read what stew said about pasting output of ifconfig/route? |
| 15:52.07 | jetscreamer | lotta semidejavu goin on here |
| 15:52.36 | hoxu | !qotd0 |
| 15:52.37 | dpkg | from memory, qotd94 is <rich_> One time I asked my grandma why she never smiled and she said that people who find everyrthing funny have a screw loose. <da_> grandma != debian lol |
| 15:52.55 | vsd | also i have RX packets:449063279 errors:0 dropped:5823 overruns:0 frame:0 |
| 15:53.06 | vsd | the dropped part |
| 15:53.11 | jetscreamer | !paste |
| 15:53.12 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 15:53.42 | hoxu | !friday |
| 15:53.43 | dpkg | friday is probably tardsday eve eve |
| 15:53.43 | vsd | i cannot paste, it's company info |
| 15:53.51 | jetscreamer | ok |
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| 15:54.12 | jetscreamer | today is thursday isn't it'? |
| 15:54.27 | hoxu | jetscreamer, I'm figuring it's tardsday eve eve eve today |
| 15:54.28 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 15:54.30 | jetscreamer | o |
| 15:54.34 | jetscreamer | scared me |
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| 15:56.25 | anirban | Hi |
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| 15:56.33 | jetscreamer | are you? |
| 15:56.37 | anirban | I am trying to upgrade from etch to lenny |
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| 15:56.44 | anirban | I need a good server |
| 15:56.47 | jetscreamer | !etch->lenny |
| 15:56.47 | dpkg | First, see <apt-listbugs> and lenny release notes. Edit sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny'. Save the file, then update and dist-upgrade. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. |
| 15:56.59 | hoxu | anirban, mirror you mean? |
| 15:57.02 | twobitsp1ite | how do you extract a .deb ? I'm looking for an example debian package becuase I'm trying to build my own |
| 15:57.13 | anirban | I was using ftp.se.debian.org |
| 15:57.13 | twobitsp1ite | by extract, I don't mean install... |
| 15:57.19 | anirban | but it is not responding |
| 15:57.28 | hoxu | !tell twobitsp1ite about nmg |
| 15:57.34 | jetscreamer | !round robin |
| 15:57.36 | anirban | yes |
| 15:57.44 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 15:57.47 | hoxu | !tell anirban about mirrors |
| 15:58.03 | jetscreamer | ftp.se is a round robin |
| 15:58.12 | anirban | I tried one mirro in tiwan |
| 15:58.13 | jetscreamer | ftp.<cc> |
| 15:58.15 | twobitsp1ite | hoxu: thanks, but I'm currently reading that already... I don't see anything about extracting .debs |
| 15:58.18 | anirban | cause I am from Indian |
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| 15:58.27 | anirban | but it was also not responding |
| 15:58.44 | maligor | twobitsp1ite, dpkg -x |
| 15:58.45 | hoxu | twobitsp1ite, man dpkg, -c and -x |
| 15:59.12 | jetscreamer | india!=indian |
| 15:59.32 | twobitsp1ite | maligor, hoxu: thanks |
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| 16:04.04 | vsd | if i don't have an entry in route(1) having default, it means my setup is wrong? |
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| 16:09.05 | eevar | any openbox, or other-box, users in here? I want a clock on my screen at all times; do I have to install some tray manager and add it to that, do I use the openbox dock, or..? |
| 16:09.50 | stew | vsd: if you don't have a default, you can only talk to your subnet, you cannot talk to anybody outside your subnet |
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| 16:10.27 | BulBulRed | hello |
| 16:10.31 | BulBulRed | how do i use backports? |
| 16:10.39 | hoxu | !bpo |
| 16:10.40 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions ask me about <backports>. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free. Once you've added that line, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 16:10.44 | jetscreamer | !tell BulBulRed .. nm |
| 16:11.35 | jetscreamer | eevar: you coulod always use something like gkrellem... iirc there's a clock module... i don't know *box though |
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| 16:12.38 | hoxu | eevar, had a look at fluxbox? |
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| 16:13.00 | jetscreamer | flux is very pretty |
| 16:13.05 | eevar | tried that first. openbox looks sweeter tho |
| 16:13.49 | eevar | only thing i'm missing is a clock |
| 16:14.01 | jetscreamer | !info gkrellem |
| 16:14.26 | jetscreamer | doesn't seem to now the name of the package |
| 16:14.41 | maligor | gkrellm |
| 16:15.01 | jetscreamer | ya |
| 16:15.14 | eevar | reading package info now |
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| 16:16.19 | jetscreamer | isn't there an xclock? |
| 16:16.42 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.44 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'clock' (15 of 30): aclock.app ;; asclock ;; asclock-themes ;; bclock ;; binclock ;; buici-clock ;; cairo-clock ;; dclock ;; gkrellm-alltraxclock ;; glunarclock ;; gpe-clock ;; grandfatherclock ;; gworldclock ;; kworldclock ;; nvclock. |
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| 16:17.46 | eevar | jetscreamer, yea. if i could just add xclock to some panel/dock thingy in my gui, that would work too |
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| 16:25.50 | hoxu | !qotd0 |
| 16:25.50 | dpkg | somebody said qotd193 was "<reply>22:42 <mortal5> ah ah! 22:42 * mortal5 hits ^c 22:42 <mortal5> lol it started verifying everything 22:42 <mortal5> ...it even asked for my green card" |
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| 16:32.38 | vsd | i cannot ping google though i can be pinged from the internet. why? |
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| 16:33.10 | azeem | vsd: can you ping 209.85.137.147? |
| 16:33.22 | vsd | azeem: what is that? |
| 16:33.39 | azeem | an IP addrees |
| 16:33.41 | gusnan | Anyone know of any gtk2 alternative to gman? |
| 16:33.50 | hoxu | !lart azeem |
| 16:33.50 | dpkg | blasts azeem with a huge firehose then strangles azeem with it |
| 16:33.54 | hoxu | vsd, seems to be google's IP |
| 16:34.02 | azeem | hoxu: what |
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| 16:35.36 | vsd | hoxu, yes i can |
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| 16:35.46 | vsd | hoxu: /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 16:35.49 | azeem | yes |
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| 16:39.36 | DawnLight | hello. after i reduce the size of an ntfs filesystem with ntfsresize, can i now use cfdisk to delete the partition and make a new one, smaller than the original? |
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| 16:39.57 | DawnLight | or need i do something in addition to that? |
| 16:40.45 | twobitsp1ite | is dh |
| 16:40.47 | twobitsp1ite | er |
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| 16:41.08 | twobitsp1ite | is dh_perl supposed to find perl module depends, or just the depend on perl itself? |
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| 16:46.07 | fannagoganna | hi, how do I find which repository a given debian package came from? |
| 16:46.28 | stew | fannagoganna: you can't |
| 16:46.33 | fannagoganna | really?? |
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| 16:47.01 | stew | fannagoganna: really |
| 16:47.27 | stew | fannagoganna: you could see what repository it is available from NOW with "apt-cache policy packagename" |
| 16:47.52 | fannagoganna | ah ok |
| 16:47.54 | blubberdiblub | DawnLight: yes, you can, but make extra sure that the new partition entry's size does encompass the complete shrunk partition and doesn't miss a couple of blocks at the end. if in doubt, make it a bit larger |
| 16:48.12 | DawnLight | blubberdiblub: thanks |
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| 16:48.42 | hoxu | DawnLight, don't forget to backup the old partition table, and I'd recommend data too :P |
| 16:49.04 | DawnLight | hoxu: how do i backup the partition table? |
| 16:49.14 | fannagoganna | thanks stew, that's what i wanted to see |
| 16:49.18 | DawnLight | with dd perhaps? |
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| 16:49.38 | hoxu | DawnLight, man sfdisk, -d should do it |
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| 16:49.46 | dutchfish | stew, i thought it was searchable in the installer log? (i could be wrong) |
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| 16:50.36 | stew | dutchfish: /var/log/aptitude doesnt' seem to have it. if you mean /var/log/dpkg then certianly not, since dpkg has no idea where a package might have come from |
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| 16:52.10 | OBcecado | hello, is there any reason why qemu won't start with 2gb allocated to a vm ? |
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| 16:52.19 | Phil4 | ok, I'm having some major issues here... |
| 16:52.39 | dutchfish | stew, i gues you are right, i was glaring at /var/log/installer/status |
| 16:52.43 | Phil4 | something (probably lighttpd) chgroup'ed by entire /etc/ to www-data |
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| 16:53.15 | Phil4 | I'm luckily logged in as root from a previous session however su is broken |
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| 16:53.37 | stew | Phil4: does lighttpd run with root privileges? |
| 16:53.38 | Phil4 | I have restored the chgroup'ing of the dir to root and changed the group of /etc/shadow to shadow but su is still no go |
| 16:53.42 | Phil4 | am I missing something |
| 16:53.45 | Phil4 | stew, no |
| 16:53.48 | Phil4 | only the init script |
| 16:53.55 | hoxu | Phil4, any warning messages? |
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| 16:53.57 | stew | Phil4: then lighttpd didn't do it |
| 16:54.05 | pablo` | hi, when i reboot my pc, where it says killing all remaining processes it always fails, is this normal? why is this happening? |
| 16:54.15 | Phil4 | either way |
| 16:54.22 | blubberdiblub | DawnLight: use "ntfsinfo -m /dev/yourpartition" to print out the size, and calculate VolumeSizeInClusters * ClusterSize / 512 to get the number of 512-byte-sectors. in cfdisk, use the "u" key to switch through the units in order to check how many sectors the entry is going to occupy. add a good couple of sectors, to be on the safe side |
| 16:54.25 | Phil4 | hoxu, not on the shell when I su |
| 16:54.29 | Phil4 | nor in /var/log/auth |
| 16:54.32 | Phil4 | where else might they be? |
| 16:54.41 | stew | Phil4: what happens when you su? |
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| 16:54.56 | Phil4 | stew, su: Authentication failure |
| 16:55.16 | hoxu | Phil4, that thing sounds fishy, I'd consider the box unsafe at this point... /msg dpkg compromise check |
| 16:55.25 | stew | Phil4: but nothing goes into /var/log/auth.log? |
| 16:55.38 | Phil4 | it's not compromised |
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| 16:55.50 | hoxu | really, how do you know? |
| 16:55.51 | stew | Phil4: you get authentication failure when running su as root? |
| 16:55.55 | Phil4 | it's likely webmin or lighty that's broken it |
| 16:56.10 | dutchfish | !webmin |
| 16:56.10 | dpkg | [webmin] a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 16:56.16 | Phil4 | stew, no |
| 16:56.20 | Phil4 | only as a regular user |
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| 16:56.30 | Phil4 | but the regular user gets failure when su'ing to any account |
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| 16:57.54 | hoxu | Phil4, strace su to see what fails perhaps? |
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| 16:58.26 | DeliPenguen | hi |
| 16:58.27 | Phil4 | open("/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/shadow.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 16:58.27 | Phil4 | open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/shadow.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 16:58.27 | Phil4 | open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/shadow.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 16:58.29 | Phil4 | hrmmmm |
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| 16:58.43 | Phil4 | that's directly before the error |
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| 16:59.07 | DeliPenguen | i have a dvd-rw [Optiarc ][DVD RW AD-5170A ][1.11] |
| 16:59.11 | DeliPenguen | i cannot mount it |
| 16:59.12 | pablo` | hi, when i reboot my pc, where it says killing all remaining processes it always fails, is this normal? why is this happening? |
| 17:00.39 | DeliPenguen | it says bad superblock |
| 17:00.47 | DawnLight | thanks blubberdiblub |
| 17:00.49 | DeliPenguen | look at dmesg etc.. |
| 17:01.04 | DeliPenguen | and dmesg says |
| 17:01.11 | DeliPenguen | attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 17:01.12 | DeliPenguen | hde: rw=0, want=68, limit=4 |
| 17:01.12 | DeliPenguen | isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hde, iso_blknum=16, block=16 |
| 17:01.12 | halflife08 | DeliPenguen: u mean you are not able to mount a cd in your drive ? |
| 17:01.32 | DeliPenguen | yes |
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| 17:01.48 | halflife08 | DeliPenguen: does it happen with all cd's or just this cd |
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| 17:02.07 | DeliPenguen | i didnt try a cd. im using dvds |
| 17:02.17 | DeliPenguen | all dvds are like this |
| 17:02.20 | DeliPenguen | data or movie |
| 17:02.36 | aboyz | Anyone know of a program that let you centralize all your password?, I was thinking of using NIS+ or LDAP. What I want to do is when I create a username, it will centralize to all my server. I need it to centralize to MYSQL, LINUX SERVER. I know I can use NIS+ to do the linux server but how do i do it with MYSQL? |
| 17:02.44 | DeliPenguen | i can't also write data to blank dvds |
| 17:02.59 | jetscreamer | are you in the cdrom group? |
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| 17:03.09 | MaliutaLap | aboyz: there is a pam module for mysql |
| 17:03.10 | DeliPenguen | im root |
| 17:03.13 | blubberdiblub | DawnLight: if i would do that, i'd probably add at least 300 sectors. that's about 150kB, thus quite affordable ;) |
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| 17:03.29 | aboyz | malitualp there is? |
| 17:03.37 | aboyz | maliutalap know the name? |
| 17:03.38 | bucko | Hey guys, I just installed Debian but it seems to have broken half of my keyboard map. |
| 17:03.46 | aboyz | does that work with NIS? |
| 17:04.05 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure console-data maybe bucko |
| 17:04.08 | bucko | Basically, the left side of the keyboard is OK, and most of the numpad is, but the cursors and pgdn etc all don't work. |
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| 17:04.15 | ma3x | hello |
| 17:04.16 | Phil4 | any ideas, stew? |
| 17:04.16 | MaliutaLap | aboyz:libpam-mysql |
| 17:04.17 | ma3x | i can't get speedstep to work |
| 17:04.21 | bucko | jetscreamer: It's actually fine in the console. It's X. |
| 17:04.25 | ma3x | FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k7 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-1-686/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k7.ko): No such device |
| 17:04.29 | DeliPenguen | any idea with this dvd problem? |
| 17:04.33 | MaliutaLap | aboyz: you need to look at the docs for pam |
| 17:04.36 | aboyz | maliutalap how does that work? |
| 17:04.41 | MaliutaLap | aboyz: it's really powerful |
| 17:04.47 | aboyz | muliutalap does pam with with NIS? |
| 17:04.52 | MaliutaLap | aboyz: the same way you do LDAP auth |
| 17:04.53 | bucko | jetscreamer: xev gives me keycodes which I presume are correct, so it's not something eating them. |
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| 17:04.55 | ma3x | /usr/share/doc/powernowd/README.Debian says i need speedstep_centrino but there is no such module in my 24-1 precompiled kernel |
| 17:05.00 | MaliutaLap | aboyz: forget nis |
| 17:05.02 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe bucko |
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| 17:05.13 | bucko | That's so going to devour my config. :/ |
| 17:05.15 | aboyz | muliatual don't use nis? |
| 17:05.15 | halflife08 | DeliPenguen: what version of debian are you running ? what is the tool you are using ? |
| 17:05.21 | jetscreamer | or just edit the file |
| 17:05.23 | MaliutaLap | aboyz: you don't need it |
| 17:05.30 | DeliPenguen | debian etch |
| 17:05.36 | jetscreamer | sudo someeditor /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 17:05.50 | DeliPenguen | for writing dvd im using k3b |
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| 17:05.55 | bucko | jetscreamer, Want me to PM my keyboard section? |
| 17:06.12 | jetscreamer | no i don't feel good |
| 17:06.27 | jetscreamer | !paste |
| 17:06.27 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 17:06.46 | pablo` | hi, does anyone has the problem of killing remaining processes failed while turning off the pc? |
| 17:06.58 | jetscreamer | pablo`: it happens to me sometimes |
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| 17:07.25 | f1shcus40 | need to limit my eth0 to 30mbit, there is a way? |
| 17:07.43 | stew | Phil4: have you checked /etc/pam.d/su ? |
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| 17:07.55 | dutchfish | f1shcus40, trickle |
| 17:07.58 | ma3x | !speedstep |
| 17:07.58 | dpkg | [speedstep] the frequency scaling feature found on some Intel mobile processors. Ask me about {cpufreq}. |
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| 17:08.00 | ma3x | !speedstep centrino |
| 17:08.02 | Phil4 | for what, stew? |
| 17:08.15 | bucko | http://rafb.net/p/QWIKLL77.html <-- my X config |
| 17:08.15 | jetscreamer | !msg |
| 17:08.15 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 17:08.35 | stew | Phil4: misconfiguration |
| 17:08.56 | DeliPenguen | !solve my dvd problem please |
| 17:08.58 | MaliutaLap | aboyz: pam is "Pluggable Authentication Modules" it is how all auth is done. how it gets it's information is heavily configurable |
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| 17:09.07 | bucko | I apologise for the stupidly named mouse, evdev was making me cry when I tried to configure two Logitech mice. In fact, even just one. : |
| 17:09.08 | bucko | :/ |
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| 17:09.19 | f1shcus40 | dutchfish thanks i will read about |
| 17:09.27 | ma3x | jetscreamer: Starting powernowd: required sysfs objects not found! |
| 17:09.27 | ma3x | Read /usr/share/doc/powernowd/README.Debian for more information. |
| 17:09.28 | ribnitz | hiyas. |
| 17:09.52 | hikenboot | greetings! does anyone know if its possible to use busybox build environment to build for X86-64 bit amd/intel platform when working on an intel environment based on X86 32 bit ? |
| 17:10.12 | ribnitz | Any particularities with WLAN (IEE802.11b,g,h,n)? |
| 17:10.25 | twobitsp1ite | hikenboot: busybox has a build environment? |
| 17:10.32 | bucko | You know, looking at that X config, it's probably worth running dpkg over it again. |
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| 17:11.20 | hikenboot | from what I am reading its a chroot environment for building is this wrong...is there a better way of doing this? |
| 17:11.44 | Phil4 | aha, stew |
| 17:11.45 | hikenboot | I want to build my own distro which is for 64 bit computers based on uclibc |
| 17:11.54 | Phil4 | reinstalled the login package |
| 17:11.58 | Phil4 | seems to have done the trick |
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| 17:12.03 | pablo` | jetscreamer: do you know the reason for that? |
| 17:12.04 | Phil4 | now to track down wtf broke it |
| 17:12.56 | bucko | Man, xorg-server really enjoyed deleting every bit of my config file. |
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| 17:13.30 | justin | bucko: if dpkg modified it, it should have made a backup |
| 17:13.41 | jetscreamer | restore from that backup you made right before you ran it |
| 17:13.43 | bucko | justin: I still had it open in vim anyway. |
| 17:13.47 | ma3x | why does nobody help on this channel anymore? |
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| 17:14.03 | jetscreamer | because i don't do speedstep |
| 17:14.07 | jetscreamer | et al |
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| 17:14.19 | jetscreamer | fuck i'm sick |
| 17:14.26 | abrotman | we knew that |
| 17:14.42 | jetscreamer | yeah but i'm also physically ill |
| 17:14.45 | jetscreamer | atm |
| 17:14.55 | stew | ma3x: did you read /usr/share/doc/powernowd/README.Debian |
| 17:15.10 | ma3x | stew: yes it told me to load speedstep centrino but that module doesnt exist |
| 17:15.14 | ma3x | jetscreamer: what you ill from? |
| 17:15.24 | ma3x | jetscreamer: cold? |
| 17:15.30 | jetscreamer | nose stuff .. yeah |
| 17:15.44 | ma3x | then don't abandon your bed |
| 17:16.02 | jetscreamer | seems to me speedstep might be deprecated in favor of powernowd but i don't know |
| 17:16.10 | stew | !find speedstep-centrino.ko |
| 17:16.10 | jetscreamer | i'm at work oh boy |
| 17:16.35 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'speedstep-centrino.ko' (2 of 4): (/lib/modules/2.6.24-1-486/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.24-1-486 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.24-1-686/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.24-1-686. |
| 17:16.55 | stew | ma3x: that modules should exist. see above. does "/lib/modules/2.6.24-1-686/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko" exist? |
| 17:17.04 | bucko | Right, I tore aout everything I didn't know what it was. Let's see how I far. |
| 17:17.06 | bucko | Fare. |
| 17:17.16 | ma3x | stew: yes it does |
| 17:17.43 | stew | ma3x: what is the output when you run "modprobe speedstep-centrino" ? |
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| 17:17.55 | jetscreamer | as root |
| 17:17.56 | ma3x | FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.24-1-686/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): Device or resource busy |
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| 17:18.12 | macpower | hi how are you? |
| 17:18.12 | dpkg | macpower: pretty good. how about you? |
| 17:18.16 | jetscreamer | wonders about lsmod |grep speedstep |
| 17:18.18 | ma3x | stew see above |
| 17:18.22 | macpower | fine |
| 17:18.24 | macpower | thanks |
| 17:18.26 | ma3x | jet nothing |
| 17:18.42 | stew | ma3x: what did you mean by "but that module doesnt exist"? |
| 17:18.45 | stew | i'm confused |
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| 17:19.05 | ma3x | stew: i didn't see it |
| 17:19.20 | macpower | i have installed debian 4.0r3, and i use a converter usb serial |
| 17:19.23 | stew | ma3x: you didn't see what? what did you change that made the module start existing/ |
| 17:19.27 | nox-Hand | For a P4 laptop, should I get 686 or 486 kernel? |
| 17:19.34 | stew | nox-Hand: 686 |
| 17:19.38 | macpower | so i normal that it's mounted to ttyUSB0 |
| 17:19.46 | nox-Hand | Cheers |
| 17:19.57 | macpower | but i use an application that use ttyS0 |
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| 17:20.22 | macpower | so i'm doing au symlink ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyS0 |
| 17:20.24 | ma3x | stew: i dont know i installed powernowd ... |
| 17:20.29 | ma3x | stew: but why is it busy? |
| 17:20.32 | macpower | but, it's a virtual link |
| 17:21.06 | macpower | but, it's possble to use usb serial on ttyS0 native ? please |
| 17:21.08 | bvk | ma3x: maybe some other module (powernowd?) could be conflicting with speedstep ? |
| 17:21.28 | bvk | ma3x: can u paste dmesg output ? |
| 17:21.38 | stew | ma3x: show us the output of lsmod ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 17:21.40 | PriitM | Hi, how could I boot into console instead of X in Debian? I'm going to install nvidia drivers? :) |
| 17:21.56 | stew | macpower: yes, but why not have the application you are using look at ttyUSB0 instead? |
| 17:21.58 | MaliutaLap | PriitM: try another run level |
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| 17:22.11 | MaliutaLap | PriitM: like going to single |
| 17:22.14 | stew | PriitM: /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 17:22.22 | stew | PriitM: why do you care if X is running? |
| 17:22.23 | bucko | Still no luck - my arrow keys still map to the wrong things. |
| 17:22.26 | ma3x | stew http://paste.debian.net/993/ |
| 17:22.27 | bvk | PriitM: if u want just for once, add single to grub kernel command line |
| 17:22.35 | bucko | Is there a package I can purge and then install to maybe fix? |
| 17:22.40 | PriitM | thanks, I'll try those suggestions out |
| 17:22.45 | MaliutaLap | stew: that wasn't the question, he wanted to know how to boot into a non-x environment |
| 17:22.58 | stew | MaliutaLap: yes, but there is no reason for him to do so |
| 17:22.59 | justin | bucko: what are they mapped to instead? |
| 17:23.05 | macpower | stew : my application don't use ttyUSB0, it use ttyS* |
| 17:23.06 | bucko | justin: Various. |
| 17:23.09 | PriitM | basicly I can't install nvidia drivers when X is running |
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| 17:23.21 | MaliutaLap | stew: you know that, I know that ... but he asked a specific question |
| 17:23.29 | MaliutaLap | PriitM: bull |
| 17:23.30 | bucko | Print, Super_R, ISO_Level3_Shift, ... |
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| 17:23.43 | stew | macpower: why not have the application use ttyUSB0? |
| 17:23.47 | MaliutaLap | PriitM: you have to restart X for them to take effect though |
| 17:23.53 | bucko | justin: Some have NoSymbol, seems to be no real pattern. It's like something's corrupted. |
| 17:24.04 | macpower | it's not configurable, this is a programation |
| 17:24.09 | stew | PriitM: there is no reason to reboot in any case. you can stop X without rebooting |
| 17:24.17 | PriitM | :o |
| 17:24.19 | macpower | this software is use for programming |
| 17:24.20 | stew | macpower: why not fix the program |
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| 17:24.28 | macpower | it's impossible |
| 17:24.34 | stew | macpower: its not free? |
| 17:24.38 | macpower | no |
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| 17:25.18 | macpower | in debian , it's possible to mount my converter to ttyS* by udev or another? |
| 17:25.26 | stew | macpower: yes |
| 17:25.28 | macpower | thanks |
| 17:25.42 | macpower | stew : what's solution please |
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| 17:26.48 | bucko | I have a number of keyboards plugged in, but all have exactly the same weird mapping issues. |
| 17:27.06 | dutchfish | macpower, i had simular problem with an EEPROM programmer, i solved it by use of qemu wich easely let you pipe the port to another. (i used qemu beacuse i dont trust closed software) |
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| 17:27.41 | macpower | dutchfish : ok |
| 17:27.46 | stew | macpower: something like: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*" SYMLINK+="ttyS0" |
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| 17:27.57 | macpower | ok thanks stew |
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| 17:28.22 | macpower | i add this line in udev.rules? it's right, but on what's line?please |
| 17:28.36 | PriitM | just wanted to say thanks, I got those drivers working :-) |
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| 17:28.49 | aboyz | How do I centralize all my username and passwrod from one location? For Example, If i created a username and password it will get centralize to all my servers & mysql? I can centralize all servers using NIS. But how do I centralize mysql? anyone know. SAy I created a user on one mysql, the 2 mysql will get added also. |
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| 17:29.10 | leonardo | hi all, anyne got install google earth 4.3 on debian? |
| 17:29.23 | leonardo | here install but doesn't login on server |
| 17:29.33 | bucko | Could any of this be due to using unstable? (I used to use it years ago back when it was basically just latest Debian; I didn't realise it'd gone nuts, and before I'd installed very much I switched to testing, but I guess I still have some unstable...) |
| 17:29.50 | leonardo | say error code:29 |
| 17:30.12 | bucko | Is there a way to get a list of packages I installed from unstable rather than testing? |
| 17:30.18 | themill | !info googleearth-package |
| 17:30.20 | dpkg | googleearth-package: (utility to automatically build a Debian package of Google Earth), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.5.3 (sid), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
| 17:30.22 | macpower | dutchfish : qemu is more big, i have only 32Mo of memory |
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| 17:30.26 | stew | bucko: try apt-show-versions |
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| 17:30.42 | dutchfish | macpower, ok, then it wont fit |
| 17:30.47 | macpower | thank for all, i will go back this night, i'm french, bye |
| 17:31.08 | aboyz | i just want to centralize my mysql? is that possible?? |
| 17:31.21 | stew | aboyz: you can replicate one mysql server to another, if that's what you mean |
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| 17:31.55 | bucko | Hmmm, 99 packages, 41 of which are X server. |
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| 17:32.43 | joltcan | aboyz: I don't think there are any built-in functionallity for this, but you can make a script that syncs the user table to other systems |
| 17:32.49 | bucko | CAn I force a downgrade via apt, or must I apt-get remove/apt-get install every package? |
| 17:33.30 | themill | stew: I think aboyz is asking if it's possible to manage the mysql.users table through ldap or something similar. (or the reverse...) So that the user can be authenticated using the same system by login, ssh, apache, imapd, etc, and mysql |
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| 17:34.14 | aboyz | themill. i guess it is impossible :) |
| 17:34.32 | aboyz | i wish someone would make a 3rd program for that :) |
| 17:34.41 | aboyz | isn't there is a program that will let you do that :) |
| 17:34.59 | aboyz | like you add in as many as mysql IP you want |
| 17:35.04 | aboyz | and it'll go there and add it fo ryou |
| 17:35.09 | YodaYoda | bucko: Edit /etc/apt/preferences http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning |
| 17:35.09 | themill | aboyz: As far as I know, yes. Unless you use some sort of syncing script as joltcan suggested. Or unless you based your other authentication requirements around the mysql.users table. |
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| 17:35.28 | aboyz | themill. or i can write a script to adduser to each mysql ? |
| 17:35.30 | stew | anything is possible, something are just a lot harder than others |
| 17:35.49 | aboyz | and write another script to remove that user from all mysql :) |
| 17:35.51 | aboyz | that is one way? |
| 17:35.54 | dutchfish | what about pam with mysql? |
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| 17:36.13 | bucko | YodaYoda: Isn't that just for /new/ packages? |
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| 17:36.17 | aboyz | let me ask mysql expert see if they know |
| 17:36.26 | bucko | I already have 99 packages installed. |
| 17:36.31 | themill | dutchfish: I don't know that I'd want to point anything else at mysql's own users table though. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. |
| 17:36.39 | stew | aboyz: do you want to do more than have multiple mysql databases which are kept in sync? |
| 17:36.50 | YodaYoda | bucko: "Note that a priority above 1000 will allow even downgrades no matter the version of the prioritary package. This means that you can use priority 1001 for a stable source if you want to downgrade to the stable versions of the packages you have installed (let's say from testing) on the system." |
| 17:36.59 | bucko | Oh, I didn't see that. |
| 17:37.00 | aboyz | stew. yes |
| 17:37.03 | dutchfish | themill, ok, i misunderstood the q |
| 17:37.04 | stew | ok |
| 17:37.07 | stew | yeah, me too |
| 17:37.15 | aboyz | stew, you got the same issues? |
| 17:37.25 | aboyz | stew, how are you doing this? adding it one by one? |
| 17:37.26 | stew | aboyz: i don't know what the issues are |
| 17:37.34 | themill | At least, I *think* I understand the question... only because I've wondered the same thing myself recently. |
| 17:37.38 | stew | i don't know what 'this' is |
| 17:37.58 | aboyz | cuz right now its a pain for me, going to each mysql server and add each user in |
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| 17:38.32 | themill | aboyz: perhaps you could ask in #mysql if they've got a way of doing this. And if they do, come back and let us know because it sounds interesting. |
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| 17:38.47 | aboyz | I'm asking.. no one know :) |
| 17:38.48 | dutchfish | aboyz, so you want your system users added into mysql users table? |
| 17:38.58 | stew | seems like something replication could do. but doing replication with mysql's user table sounds like a recipe for disaster |
| 17:38.58 | aboyz | dutchfish. yes is that possible? |
| 17:39.12 | themill | dutchfish: system users as well as mysql users. |
| 17:39.13 | aboyz | stew. yeah i don't like to do the replication of the user table |
| 17:39.15 | stew | oh system users are involved? yeah, i clearly still don't get it |
| 17:39.42 | aboyz | someone gotta know a way to do this.. |
| 17:39.52 | aboyz | like if i create a users, it get sync in to all my stuff |
| 17:39.54 | stew | bucko: there is no automated way to downgrade. |
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| 17:40.42 | aboyz | is openldap work nicely with unix system? |
| 17:40.50 | aboyz | i'm so use to nis |
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| 17:41.23 | rgr | which cpu scaling module should I use on Lenny for a Core 2 Duo? I currently use acpi_cpufreq. |
| 17:41.26 | bucko | YodaYoda: I set testing to priority 1100 and unstable to -50, then tried to install a package to downgrade, but it just tells me "newset version" and says "119 packages not upgraded" (I don't know if that's testing->unstable or unstable->testing). |
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| 17:42.06 | stew | bucko: what are you trying to downgrade? |
| 17:42.17 | bucko | stew: A load of unstable packages. I have 99. |
| 17:42.24 | bucko | Or 119, possibly. |
| 17:42.37 | bucko | I'm trying to see if it'll fix my stupid keyboard brokenness. |
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| 17:42.54 | stew | bucko: what exactly is broken about your keyboard? |
| 17:42.55 | ribnitz | heyas. |
| 17:43.04 | ribnitz | Is 2.6.25 out yet? |
| 17:43.15 | stew | ribnitz: check http://kernel.org |
| 17:43.20 | cyberagent | ribnitz, yes. |
| 17:43.34 | bucko | stew: All of the buttons not on the main letter area and numpad are mapped apparently completely at random. One's mapped to ISO_Level3_Shift, which I didn't know existed until now. |
| 17:43.39 | ribnitz | stew: I meant: Avaialble for "bleeding edge"? |
| 17:43.42 | bucko | Rebooting and restarting X do not help. |
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| 17:43.51 | stew | ribnitz: i dont' know what that means |
| 17:44.02 | ribnitz | stew: sif+experimental? |
| 17:44.08 | amphi | ribnitz: it's out, and appears to work |
| 17:44.10 | ribnitz | er sid.. |
| 17:44.12 | stew | ribnitz: check http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.25 |
| 17:44.19 | themill | aboyz: the questions you are asking in #mysql are completely different to the ones you were asking here, so clearly none of us have any idea what you really want to know. |
| 17:44.36 | stew | bucko: run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if the problem persists |
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| 17:45.17 | ribnitz | stew: nope. |
| 17:45.19 | aboyz | themill. i ask the same thing but no one answer |
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| 17:45.33 | bucko | I did. It completely destroyed my config file, tearing out all multimonitor support, all configured modes and left the keyboard section exactly as-is. |
| 17:45.42 | ribnitz | aboyz: perhaps they all don't know? |
| 17:45.50 | twobitsp1ite | ok, so I've discovered dh-make-perl... but it blindly assumes that my perl package has a MakeFile.PL, which it doesn't and I don't see any options to not look for it |
| 17:46.01 | bucko | I didn't actually try using said crippled config file, but I severly doubt it's the problem. |
| 17:46.06 | stew | bucko: by "completely destroyed" you mean "backed up", right? |
| 17:46.20 | bucko | stew: I replaced its one with my backup after. |
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| 17:46.29 | aboyz | Is there a third party software I can purchase, to do the centralization? |
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| 17:46.55 | dutchfish | aboyz, i would delve into source of this http://packages.debian.org/etch/libpam-mysql |
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| 17:47.31 | aboyz | ok thanks.. |
| 17:47.41 | stew | bucko: try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and take all the defaults (just keep hitting enter). and see if you have the same issues with that xorg.conf |
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| 17:47.57 | stew | bucko: if you take all of the defaults, you would't end up with your current keybaord config |
| 17:47.57 | Haris | Hello people |
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| 17:48.24 | stew | aboyz: we don't know what you mean by centralization |
| 17:48.29 | bucko | stew: I found a way to auto downgrade everything. I'm trying that first. I severly doubt X will even start at the dpkg config though. I think it used nv on my 8000 series card. |
| 17:48.45 | stew | bucko: why do you doubt that X will start? |
| 17:48.55 | bucko | stew: IIRC nv can't interface newer cards. |
| 17:49.09 | bucko | Maybe ATI I'm thinking of though. |
| 17:49.15 | stew | bucko: did the xorg.conf mention xv? |
| 17:49.16 | stew | err |
| 17:49.17 | stew | nv? |
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| 17:49.27 | bucko | I forget, I overwrote it. :) |
| 17:49.29 | Haris | iftop!!!! |
| 17:49.37 | stew | bucko: then what does nv have to do with it? |
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| 17:50.10 | bucko | Dunno. |
| 17:50.15 | dutchfish | stew, if i understand aboyz correctly, he want mysql as a backend for all his authorisations |
| 17:50.42 | aboyz | dutch. NO i don't |
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| 17:50.55 | aboyz | i one a place where i have a centralize username and password |
| 17:51.03 | dutchfish | aboyz, ok hit me |
| 17:51.14 | stew | aboyz: how is that different than what dutchfish is talking about? |
| 17:51.17 | aboyz | slaps dutchfish around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:51.24 | dutchfish | aboyz, thanks |
| 17:51.46 | aboyz | it doesn't have to be a mysql backend |
| 17:51.52 | aboyz | any other program will do :) |
| 17:52.00 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: ldap is the typical way you do what you're talking about, but there are other methods. |
| 17:52.04 | aboyz | Can someone develop the program :) |
| 17:52.17 | themill | aboyz: What services do you want centralised to this backend? |
| 17:52.39 | aboyz | I need a place where I can add users and it'll centralize to all my servers and mysql |
| 17:52.40 | dutchfish | aboyz, noone will be able to develop a proggi, if you ar enot crsyal clear what you need |
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| 17:52.57 | aboyz | dutch, which part are you not getting? |
| 17:53.01 | dondelelcaro | aboyz: if it has to be mysql, there are various nss and pam mysql interfaces. |
| 17:53.20 | themill | dondelelcaro: it's for centralising the *mysql* users |
| 17:53.26 | themill | (as well as other users) |
| 17:53.38 | aboyz | themill. <<<--- correct |
| 17:53.40 | stew | i think he's saying he wants pam and mysql to both use _____ as a place to authenticate against |
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| 17:54.13 | aboyz | ldap and NIS will both work for cetnralizing unix account |
| 17:54.13 | tombs | anyone facing problems with gnome on testing? |
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| 17:54.26 | themill | he needs a way of getting mysql to authenticate it's internal db users against something other than the mysql.users table. |
| 17:54.49 | dondelelcaro | themill: AFAIK that's the only way to authenticate with mysql |
| 17:54.51 | stew | or he needs to point pam or nss at mysql.users |
| 17:54.58 | aboyz | themill. maybe there is a plugins for NIS or ldap |
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| 17:55.15 | stew | which would require altering the mysql.users table structure, which is somehting i'd be reluctant to do |
| 17:55.17 | dondelelcaro | (though it would be trivial if you were using postgresql to write a few PL/perl modules to interface the two) |
| 17:55.21 | aboyz | let me search if there is a plugins for NIS or ldap that will sync up with mysql |
| 17:55.29 | themill | aboyz: http://forge.mysql.com/wiki/PluggableAuthenticationSupport |
| 17:55.48 | stew | aboyz: libpam-mysql and libnss-mysql |
| 17:56.01 | dutchfish | stew, yes |
| 17:56.06 | themill | dondelelcaro: really? That sounds interesting... got a pointer to that somewhere? |
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| 17:56.32 | bucko | Yay I'm now running testing. |
| 17:56.36 | bucko | Restarting X. |
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| 17:59.30 | bucko | Yay, keyboard fixed. ^.^ |
| 17:59.38 | bucko | Now I must go. :) |
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| 18:03.43 | yigal | Is it possible to tell screen to set the TERM parameter to rxvt-unicode while in X and linux while on a tty? |
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| 18:06.22 | dondelelcaro | themill: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/static/auth-methods.html + libpam-pg or similar will do it |
| 18:07.41 | themill | dondelelcaro: nice. Looks like hacky-script-glue isn't even required if posgresql can do PAM auth on its own anyway. |
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| 18:09.57 | dondelelcaro | themill: yeah; was thinking that a custom table interface needed to be made, but nope. |
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| 18:10.37 | dutchfish | mumbles, there are not many things in linux that arent already done |
| 18:11.16 | dondelelcaro | dutchfish: there are tons of things, but they often tend to be niche or odd |
| 18:11.28 | themill | dondelelcaro: I guess the access restrictions part is still kept inside the db tables, so you can't express GRANTs (or whatever the pg syntax is) through the remote auth services. Having that in ldap too would be rather sweet. |
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| 18:11.59 | dutchfish | dondelelcaro, agree |
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| 18:14.05 | Haris | is it possible to control per session bandwidth on etch? |
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| 18:15.13 | dondelelcaro | Haris: use trickle or similar |
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| 18:17.27 | Bombo | hi, i'm using debian/etch and i want to use xsane to scan through a usb device as a user (works as root) /dev/bus/usb/001/002 is unfortunately in group root, so i get permission denied as a normal user, how do i fix that? |
| 18:18.29 | stew | Bombo: adduser username scanner |
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| 18:18.39 | Bombo | the group should be scanner, when its turned on, the user is in group scanner |
| 18:19.09 | Bombo | stew: it is, but the /dev/bus/usb/001/002 isnt in grp scanner, but root |
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| 18:20.21 | stew | !find z60_libsane.rules etch |
| 18:20.21 | stew | don't know if libsane added that yet in etch |
| 18:20.24 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'z60_libsane.rules' returned no results. |
| 18:20.29 | stew | guess not |
| 18:21.18 | Bombo | so only way to fix that is add the user that should only be allowed to scan into group root |
| 18:21.40 | slidesinger | I am discovering that not all the world is bash, but rather you can run into csh, ksh, and even zsh. Is there a command common to all shells that you can use to ID which shell you've got? |
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| 18:22.01 | cloakable | echo $SHELL |
| 18:22.06 | stew | Bombo: check /usr/share/doc/libsane/README.Debian if it exists. the lenny packages of libsane add lots of udev rules to do this |
| 18:22.31 | cloakable | slidesinger: echo $SHELL |
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| 18:22.41 | Bombo | /usr/share/doc/libsane/README.Debian: No such file or directory |
| 18:23.16 | TwinX | Bombo try: sudo gpasswd -a username scanner |
| 18:23.34 | cloakable | Bombo: Might be README.Debian.gz |
| 18:23.37 | TwinX | username is the user you want to add Bombo |
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| 18:24.29 | Bombo | TwinX: doesnt help if the usb device is not in grp scanner |
| 18:24.41 | Bombo | cloakable: *reading* ;) |
| 18:24.47 | TwinX | hmm |
| 18:24.53 | stew | Bombo: do you know the vendor/product IDs for this device? |
| 18:25.05 | stew | Bombo: if so, we can add a udev rule for this particualr device |
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| 18:25.40 | stew | Bombo: hopefully 'lsusb' would tell you |
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| 18:26.09 | cloakable | Bombo: cool :) |
| 18:26.10 | nse | is java free now? |
| 18:26.23 | abrotman | free-ish |
| 18:26.25 | superlinux | nse i think yes |
| 18:26.30 | abrotman | it's not fully GPLed yet |
| 18:26.35 | stew | nse: getting there |
| 18:26.50 | superlinux | abrotman thats why i said "i think" |
| 18:26.50 | nse | does this make its way into debian? |
| 18:27.03 | abrotman | nse: it's already in non-free |
| 18:27.03 | Bombo | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04f9:0169 Brother Industries, Ltd |
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| 18:27.51 | superlinux | abrotman do u know the layer7-filter from netfilter? it's not on the list of APT |
| 18:28.26 | Bombo | stew: its a printer/scanner/copier all-in-one machine 'Brother DCP-110C' |
| 18:28.47 | slidesinger | cloakable: That's cool, it identified the shell on the freebsd box, the mac, the fedora box, the aix box and my very own debian box. Thanks! |
| 18:28.53 | superlinux | any one of u in NSW australia? |
| 18:29.00 | stew | Bombo: we'd want the vendor/device IDs which would look something like "1234:1234" |
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| 18:29.38 | cloakable | slidesinger: Happy to help :) |
| 18:30.19 | dutchfish | stew, is there a special place to report new ID in that way? |
| 18:30.45 | stew | dutchfish: i don't knwo |
| 18:30.56 | abrotman | dutchfish: report to who ? |
| 18:31.01 | Bombo | stew: sorry prefix was missing: 20:27 <Bombo> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04f9:0169 Brother Industries, Ltd |
| 18:31.08 | dutchfish | like this: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 03f0:1016 Hewlett-Packard Jornada 548 / iPAQ HW6515 Pocket PC |
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| 18:31.38 | slidesinger | cloakable: It's another one of those things that works everywhere except Redmond. |
| 18:31.44 | Bombo | stew: so i now put this line in /etc/udev/libsane.rules SYSFS{idVendor}=="04f9", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0169", MODE="664", GROUP="scanner" |
| 18:32.00 | Bombo | stew: right? anything else? |
| 18:32.05 | stew | Bombo: looks good to me |
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| 18:32.14 | cloakable | slidesinger: Bit like my workstation :) Redmond doesn't like that either. |
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| 18:32.48 | Bombo | stew: do i need to restart the udev to see if it worked? or complete reboot? |
| 18:33.05 | Bombo | i'm not sure how to just restart the usb stuff |
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| 18:33.36 | macafe | Exist any way to execute something in other host using ssh and retrieve result? Example: ssh user@host -p 111 -XXX "svn up /var/www/" |
| 18:33.44 | stew | Bombo: i'd think restart udev |
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| 18:34.05 | Bombo | $ /etc/init.d/udev restart |
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| 18:34.14 | stew | macafe: yes, you don't need the quotes around the command |
| 18:34.24 | Bombo | crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 1 Apr 17 20:18 /dev/bus/usb/001/002 |
| 18:34.28 | Bombo | hmm |
| 18:34.29 | cloakable | Bombo: try reload instead |
| 18:34.34 | stew | Bombo: you'd have to replug the device |
| 18:34.42 | twobitsp1ite | !ping |
| 18:34.42 | dpkg | pong |
| 18:34.58 | Bombo | stew: physically? |
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| 18:35.11 | Bombo | i'm just connected through ssh right now ;) |
| 18:35.12 | stew | Bombo: yeah |
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| 18:35.16 | stew | Bombo: hmm |
| 18:35.21 | macafe | stew, ual.. |
| 18:35.35 | macafe | stew, Sorry for my ignorance :D |
| 18:35.37 | Bombo | can't i just restart the usb scan process |
| 18:35.50 | stew | Bombo: you could unload and reload the usb drivers |
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| 18:38.37 | Selveste1_ | Hey - I whont to try Debian out, but when I am in the download page on debian.org there is 4 DVD-iso do I need to download all the ISO's ore just one of them ? |
| 18:39.14 | Bombo | stew: worked ;) |
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| 18:39.58 | Mantaar | I fucking **hate** Java. Guys, I have that "gray window" problem again... using a tiling windowmanager... I knew there where workarounds, but what exactly was it? |
| 18:40.06 | Pawbie | Selveste1: You technically only need the netinst. |
| 18:40.20 | Mantaar | ... there was one option of exporting a toolkit variable, but I would like to check out alternatives... |
| 18:40.35 | Bombo | stew: thanks for the help |
| 18:40.48 | Bombo | i hope it still does the printing ;) need to check that |
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| 18:41.26 | Pawbie | Which: usplash or splashy? |
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| 18:44.00 | ale666 | I'm using my localhost to send outgoing mail only. However most of the time this mail gets wrongly caught by gmail spam filter. Does anyone know why? Thank you. |
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| 18:46.41 | Pawbie | ale666: What are you relaying through? |
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| 18:52.16 | DirkGently | ale666: something in the email is triggering the filter... a friend of mine has the same problem... my SA traps it... |
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| 18:53.57 | el_mexicano | hi there, what do I wrong? I got just von mirror in my sources list wich is configured for SARGE if I do an dist upgrade apt downloads just Etch Packets :-( For in migration simulation I need en clean Sarge Server, what can I do? I am using "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free" as mirror. |
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| 18:54.11 | rahul | !sarge |
| 18:54.11 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the previous stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended at 03/31/2008. sarge users should upgrade to etch, ask me about <sarge->etch> |
| 18:54.27 | rahul | oh |
| 18:54.32 | rahul | el_mexicano: it's "oldstable" |
| 18:54.34 | rahul | !oldstable |
| 18:54.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, oldstable is the previous stable version of Debian GNU/Linux, currently Sarge (3.1). Previously, Woody. Get old Sarge ISO's here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r7/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 18:54.56 | rahul | grr... I tihnk it's only on certain mirrors |
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| 18:55.34 | Petur_ | Hi, im looking for an administration font written in php for BIND. |
| 18:55.39 | Petur_ | font -> front |
| 18:55.44 | abrotman | el_mexicano: paste your sources.list somewhere |
| 18:56.22 | abrotman | Petur_: might have more luck in #bind |
| 18:56.22 | trench | el_mexicano: you should change that to etch |
| 18:56.30 | abrotman | trench: he's trying to install sarge |
| 18:56.35 | vlt | Hello. From dur.xxx.net.uk (xx.81.6.37) icmp_seq=22 Packet filtered" What does that mean? |
| 18:57.00 | vlt | This is the answer to `ping` |
| 18:57.01 | trench | abrotman: there is no security updates for sarge anymore |
| 18:57.02 | el_mexicano | i need sarge to simulate an old productive server wich need to be migrated |
| 18:57.23 | abrotman | trench: i'm aware of that .. thanks |
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| 18:58.29 | trench | el_mexicano: check the links on that mirror maybe it points to etch? |
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| 19:00.13 | stew | el_mexicano: sarge is no longer supported. why would you want sarge instead of etch? |
| 19:00.36 | rahul | stew: he's testing migration |
| 19:00.47 | trench | stew: read up :) |
| 19:01.06 | rahul | el_mexicano: wouldn't it be better to test migration of the exact disk image that the server is running with? |
| 19:01.20 | rahul | take a recent backup of the server and try to upgrade that |
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| 19:01.59 | stew | el_mexicano: upgrades from sarge to etch have been tested many times. why do you need to also test it? |
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| 19:02.11 | el_mexicano | it's a different hardware, it's a RootServer |
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| 19:03.29 | stew | RootServer? |
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| 19:03.50 | gusnan | How do I make "dwww ls" actually open the ls(1) page? As it is now, it opens Package:coreutils, where ls(1) is listed. |
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| 19:04.39 | abrotman | like .. a "." server? |
| 19:04.44 | justin | gusnan: if it's anytthing like man, dwww 1 ls |
| 19:05.11 | gusnan | justin: that gives "Documentation related to 1"... :( |
| 19:05.12 | stew | abrotman: somethign makes me suspect not |
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| 19:05.24 | abrotman | stew: no kidding :) |
| 19:05.37 | rrbox | what packages do i need for festival, without using gnome or kde ? |
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| 19:06.42 | stew | rrbox: "aptitude install festival"? |
| 19:07.22 | rrbox | yeah, i'm wondering how to use festival without kde/gnome tho |
| 19:07.29 | rrbox | i'm on e16 |
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| 19:07.53 | stew | rrbox: man festival |
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| 19:08.30 | helo | serial port |
| 19:08.55 | rrbox | k stew |
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| 19:29.32 | action09 | oy |
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| 19:32.02 | private_meta | yo... i have a small question. it's a little general, but its for linux-debian: how can i tunnel all traffic on a certain port (80) over a debian-server i have? i want that the public IP-Address i have at my local computer is the one of my server |
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| 19:35.31 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 19:35.32 | dpkg | methinks iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: <masq>, or try #iptables (irc.freenode.net) for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450 |
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| 19:45.35 | abrotman | waits for hoxu |
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| 19:49.50 | stew | !flw |
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| 19:51.18 | Empoleon | www.kefche.com |
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| 19:51.38 | LassieTheBrave | I have just recived a iCON 225 USB 3G/GPRS modem which supposedly is functional with a module called 'option' or "hso" or "usbserial" but none of these seem to give me the expected /dev/ttyUSB* or /dev/ttyHSO* (I do use usb_modeswitch to change the modem from mem stick to modem) what am I missing? |
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| 20:00.06 | LassieTheBrave | Nobody with experience setting up 3G/GPRS modems using the hso / option / usbserial drivers? |
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| 20:02.02 | Saar | shutdown seems to not allow to set a date, just a time hh:mm, how to set a date? if possible |
| 20:02.46 | \amethyst | Saar: maybe use at instead |
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| 20:03.42 | \amethyst | Saar: like echo 'shutdown -h now' | at '18:00 2008-04-19' |
| 20:03.43 | Saar | yeah or cron, but i was thinking i was missing something since other shutdowns do allow for a date |
| 20:03.53 | Saar | right |
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| 20:05.33 | Saar | it'll have to do, thanks |
| 20:07.04 | \amethyst | Saar: You could also use shutdown -h +$(( ($(date -d '2008-04-19 18:00' +%s) - $(date -d now +%s))/60 )) I guess :) |
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| 20:07.41 | LassieTheBrave | Support is telling me to ndiswrapp the .inf:s is there any chance that might work for this modem thingy (I'd like too keep my system clean if possible...) |
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| 20:07.53 | gangsterlicious | is nfsv4 still experienmental in linux? |
| 20:08.04 | rrbox | got festiva --tts "file" but anyone know for a console paste to speach ? |
| 20:08.12 | rrbox | festival* |
| 20:10.22 | Saar | \amethyst: ack ;-) |
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| 20:17.14 | LassieTheBrave | So usb_modeswitch seems to do it's job atleast... no memory stick showing up now... however still none of the drivers different people according to my googling has used to get this thing to work is giving me the expected ttyUSB / ttyHS*; Help? please? |
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| 20:30.12 | filemon | evening! Could anyone help me, please? I've installed debian etch. It's a dualboot machine now. Everything's ok but I cannot seem to get access to my "c:/windows/Documents and Settings/user" directory. In fact, it's not even visible in debian. |
| 20:30.44 | dmcmorris_esi | !mount |
| 20:30.44 | dpkg | [mount] a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem |
| 20:30.46 | filemon | oh, c:/Docum...... |
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| 20:32.28 | filemon | the partition is mounted. My user directory in Win is the only directory that's not visible |
| 20:33.09 | heatman | In etch, what file needs to be modified so that apache2 redirects to my html instead of the /apache2-default/ located in /var/www/ |
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| 20:33.49 | dondelelcaro | heatman: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
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| 20:34.12 | heatman | dondelelcaro: ty |
| 20:34.16 | BramuS | how can i optain the LIBSSL.SO.6 files? |
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| 20:34.35 | dondelelcaro | BramuS: uh... you mean libssl.so.6? |
| 20:34.41 | BramuS | did an update for DirectAdmin and suddenly it doenst start anymore telling me it cant find the libssl.so.6 files |
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| 20:34.44 | BramuS | yes dondelelcaro |
| 20:35.35 | azeem | BramuS: which version of DebianÂ? |
| 20:35.47 | BramuS | 3.?? |
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| 20:36.04 | filemon | nobody can help?:-( |
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| 20:36.05 | azeem | BramuS: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:36.21 | BramuS | hmm lol 4.0 x) |
| 20:36.28 | BramuS | my bad |
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| 20:36.46 | azeem | there's no libssl.so.6, anywhere |
| 20:36.56 | azeem | BramuS: where do you have DirectAdmin from? |
| 20:37.02 | BramuS | directadmin.com |
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| 20:37.08 | azeem | so ask them about it |
| 20:37.09 | BramuS | yes legal |
| 20:37.30 | azeem | BramuS: maybe it'd help if you could pastebin the full error you get |
| 20:37.32 | azeem | !paste |
| 20:37.32 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 20:37.46 | BramuS | azeem yeah sure 1 moment |
| 20:38.21 | BramuS | http://paste.debian.net/1004/ |
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| 20:38.45 | BramuS | btw azeem |
| 20:38.46 | BramuS | http://www.directadmin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21695 |
| 20:38.59 | BramuS | i found that, but i dont have the libssl.so.4 or libssl.so.5 file |
| 20:39.06 | Lethalman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:40.48 | azeem | BramuS: that's the worest advice evah |
| 20:41.06 | BramuS | found it by google (a) |
| 20:41.18 | BramuS | but do you have any idea how to fix this? |
| 20:41.20 | azeem | just because you found it by google doesn't mean it's good advice |
| 20:41.25 | azeem | BramuS: 22:35 < azeem> BramuS: maybe it'd help if you could pastebin the full error you get |
| 20:41.34 | BramuS | (22:38:17) (BramuS) http://paste.debian.net/1004/ |
| 20:41.35 | enouf | didn't there used to be a pkg called "mcompress" in debian? not "mscompress" <(all i can seem to find) |
| 20:41.47 | azeem | BramuS: sorry |
| 20:41.51 | BramuS | no problem |
| 20:42.03 | BramuS | glad you are trying to help ;) |
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| 20:43.44 | heatman | dondelelcaro: is there a reason why changing the location from /apache2-default/ to something else brings the page to /apache2-default/ nonetheless? |
| 20:44.18 | azeem | BramuS: well no idea, Fedory seems to have some compatibility symlink for libssl.so.6 in their RPM |
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| 20:44.36 | azeem | BramuS: I suggest you complain to user support from where you got that binary(?) |
| 20:45.31 | BramuS | i did just send an e-mail to support [a] directadmin . com |
| 20:45.47 | BramuS | some one else in an other debian chan told me: BramuS: libssl-dev |
| 20:45.47 | azeem | good |
| 20:45.51 | BramuS | is that smart? |
| 20:45.53 | BramuS | to do |
| 20:46.05 | azeem | why not, they don't seem to support Debian |
| 20:46.15 | azeem | BramuS: did you download a .deb or some install script or what? |
| 20:46.28 | BramuS | no, directadmin has an button updating |
| 20:46.41 | BramuS | there are several verison, debian, freebsd, centos and fedora |
| 20:46.56 | BramuS | when you buy a license you need to enter your operating system and the license will check this |
| 20:47.10 | BramuS | i installed directadmin about 2 months ago and it was running perfectly |
| 20:47.19 | BramuS | could restart what i want it was just coming back up |
| 20:47.23 | azeem | well, seems they broke it |
| 20:47.54 | stew | BramuS: libssl-dev isn't what you need. it is for compiling things, which you dont' seem to be doing. it would, however depend on a runtime ssl, which would provides libssl.so.0.9.8. another alternatives that your version of debian provides libssl.so.0.9.7. who knows which version you need. debian has no libssl.so.6 |
| 20:47.55 | enouf | aha! found it - it's Ncompress --> ncompress - Original Lempel-Ziv compress/uncompress programs Do'H |
| 20:47.58 | BramuS | and three days ago, directadmin released an update with some bug fixes for bandwidth checking and some other things, so i waited a few days and did check some Host forums to check for problems, but not mutch to find, so i thought lets update |
| 20:48.03 | enouf | ncompress - Original Lempel-Ziv compress/uncompress programs |
| 20:48.19 | enouf | gah, apologies, wrong channel :-p |
| 20:48.27 | azeem | stew: Fedora's 0.9.8 seems to ship a .6 symlink or so |
| 20:48.31 | BramuS | and after the update it just stopped |
| 20:48.43 | azeem | BramuS: it's obviously not Debian's fault |
| 20:48.48 | BramuS | it even did e-mail me the services was stopped |
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| 20:48.56 | BramuS | ok thanks for the support azeem |
| 20:49.04 | BramuS | hope directadmin gets in touch with me very fast |
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| 20:49.49 | azeem | BramuS: what does "ls -l /usr/lib/libssl.so.*" say? |
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| 20:50.30 | BramuS | /usr/lib/libssl.so |
| 20:50.30 | BramuS | /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 |
| 20:50.50 | dubby | hey anyone whats the apt for the default american repos? |
| 20:51.03 | stew | dubby: there are many: /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 20:51.32 | dubby | thank you |
| 20:51.46 | cloakable | dubby: probably ftp.us.debian.org |
| 20:52.03 | cloakable | just a guess, though :P |
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| 20:53.59 | Caemyr | hiya |
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| 20:54.37 | Caemyr | what settings does kernel use to update grub\menu.lst when new core is installed? |
| 20:55.05 | stew | Caemyr: what? what do you mean by "new core"? |
| 20:55.28 | Caemyr | when you compile your own kernel for example |
| 20:55.34 | Caemyr | and it is added to grub menu |
| 20:55.54 | stew | Caemyr: read the comments surrounding the kopt= line in menu.lst |
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| 20:57.16 | LassieTheBrave | So Option iCon 225 with the "option" driver does not give me any nice new tty:s does ANYBODY have ANY ideas; please? |
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| 20:58.20 | Caemyr | # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=771 |
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| 20:58.26 | Caemyr | it would make sense... |
| 20:58.41 | Caemyr | doesnt single # mean it is commented out? |
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| 20:59.31 | stew | Caemyr: it is a comment as far as grub is concerned, but it is a comment which is used by update-grub. don't remove the # |
| 20:59.54 | Caemyr | so this line is actually used byt update-grub?? |
| 20:59.59 | stew | Caemyr: yes |
| 21:00.02 | Caemyr | ah |
| 21:00.06 | Caemyr | finaly! |
| 21:00.11 | Caemyr | thanks guys! |
| 21:00.29 | Caemyr | it really was a pain in my ass |
| 21:00.31 | Caemyr | bye! |
| 21:00.32 | LassieTheBrave | Wath |
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| 21:01.01 | LassieTheBrave | What is /dev/ttyS* all about? |
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| 21:02.42 | cusco | hey dudes... |
| 21:02.54 | cusco | I have got this script being ran as root: http://rafb.net/p/Opy7Ci77.html |
| 21:03.09 | cusco | sorry, being run on root's crontab |
| 21:03.21 | stew | LassieTheBrave: /dev/ttyS* are names typically given to rs232 serial ports |
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| 21:03.39 | cusco | the echo comand writes to cron.log but the bash one doesn't! (nor runs the script) |
| 21:03.45 | ttf | hi.. what are *.ucf-dist files? |
| 21:04.01 | cusco | I don't understand why I cant seem to run ddclient on the crontab |
| 21:04.01 | LassieTheBrave | So they couldn't hae anything to do with the usbserial driver or mayhaps the option module then? |
| 21:04.11 | azeem | cusco: is /usr/local/sbin/ipupdate a bash script? |
| 21:04.20 | cusco | azeem: yes do you want to see its contents? |
| 21:04.25 | Eulex | cusco, you mean dhclient? |
| 21:04.27 | azeem | I'd rather not |
| 21:04.33 | cusco | Eulex: no, I mean ddclient |
| 21:04.42 | azeem | cusco: why don't you run it directly anyway? |
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| 21:04.49 | stew | ttf: ucf is one of the tools debian packages use to upgrade config files. .ucf-dist file is one that would be created when you have made changes to a config file that a pacakge is trying to update, but it doesn't want to overwrite your local changes. man ucf |
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| 21:05.06 | cusco | azeem: it runs perfectly directly from the command line but not from the cron |
| 21:05.16 | cusco | so I made that little thingie to see if the cron was running |
| 21:05.25 | ttf | stew: okay - thanks for the good explanation :) |
| 21:05.27 | cusco | only the echo command wirtes to cron.log |
| 21:05.45 | cusco | azeem: the /usr/local/sbin/ipupdate is a fairly simpe 3 lines script |
| 21:06.07 | azeem | maybe it just doesn't do any output |
| 21:06.21 | stew | LassieTheBrave: usb serial would typically be named /dev/ttyUSB* not /dev/ttyS* |
| 21:06.24 | cusco | but running it from comand line does optput a lot |
| 21:06.36 | cusco | 9specially with -verbose -noquiet and -debug) |
| 21:06.50 | azeem | you don't specify those |
| 21:06.51 | LassieTheBrave | stew : so i figured... just hoping... desperatly... |
| 21:06.55 | cusco | \lseo it doesnt update the ip, as it does when ran from the command line |
| 21:06.58 | cusco | also |
| 21:07.15 | cusco | azeem: I do in the script |
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| 21:07.25 | stew | cusco: does the bash script rely on environment variables that might not be set when being run by cron? |
| 21:07.35 | azeem | cusco: so pastebin the script |
| 21:07.45 | cusco | http://rafb.net/p/rjp1hM71.html |
| 21:08.30 | cusco | I used to have cron point to it directly but nothing hapened that is why I made up the first script |
| 21:08.40 | azeem | cusco: why don't you execute that directly in the cron script? |
| 21:08.45 | azeem | hrm |
| 21:08.46 | cusco | try to see if cron was running it, it is btu the ddclient doesn't run |
| 21:08.50 | cusco | no effect happens |
| 21:08.56 | cusco | no ouptut |
| 21:09.03 | cusco | I dunno how to look into it |
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| 21:09.20 | azeem | cusco: maybe it's outputting everything at stderr |
| 21:09.38 | azeem | cusco: try to run it manually like "ddclient -debug -verbose -noquiet -use=web -file /etc/ddclient.conf 2> /dev/null" |
| 21:09.43 | cusco | ok |
| 21:10.14 | cusco | all the debug output came |
| 21:10.25 | azeem | ok, no idea then |
| 21:10.26 | cusco | and the normal importand output too "SUCCESS: updating tretas.eu: IP address set to 86.27.146.23 (201: No records need updating.)" |
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| 21:11.45 | cusco | anybody else care to trow some thoughts? |
| 21:11.52 | cusco | :-( |
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| 21:13.47 | dazoe | i have a server dunning debian and i'd like to setup a free website hosting service that would have apache/php/mysql and i was thinking of using vmware to keep it isolated from the rest of the server and it would also make backup/restoring eiser using the snapshots... any thoughts? |
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| 21:13.58 | amikrop | How googleearth-package is used? |
| 21:14.40 | g0rAngA | dazoe: my first thought would be to use chroot |
| 21:14.59 | stew | amikrop: read /usr/share/doc/googleearth-package/README.Debian |
| 21:15.15 | amikrop | stew: ok. thx. |
| 21:16.26 | dazoe | g0rAngA: chroot? you can chroot apache but not mysql... |
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| 21:18.24 | LassieTheBrave | So GPRS/3G modem Option icon 225 using the option driver or maybe the hso driver or even the usbserial driver wich all have been succesfull on this model according to bundles of people doesn't bring me any new devices does anyone care to inform me of the next step in my quest for connection, please? |
| 21:19.07 | g0rAngA | dazoe: just a first thought. incidentally, I didn't know that. but to me, using vmware seems like overkill |
| 21:19.30 | dubby | ok anyone what would be the apt line for adding this repository http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ? |
| 21:19.55 | streuner | dubby: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 21:20.33 | dubby | etch |
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| 21:21.09 | dazoe | g0rAngA: it's just i have a lot running on that server websites for clients that i admin my self and well i'm just a little worried about a hosting service because allowing people to write php can lead to unforseen security issues |
| 21:21.19 | azeem | dubby: then you don't have Debian, it should start with "ii..." |
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| 21:22.59 | dubby | ii libc6 ? |
| 21:23.51 | streuner | dubby: what distro are you running actually? |
| 21:23.59 | dubby | agh fine im running ubuntu |
| 21:24.05 | dubby | but its missing a lot of cool programs |
| 21:24.10 | dubby | i wanted to add the debain repos |
| 21:24.23 | azeem | dubby: that's not gonna work |
| 21:24.29 | azeem | dubby: please ask in #ubuntu anyway |
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| 21:30.07 | g0rAngA | dazoe: well, that seems fair enough. I see the problem. have you considered mysql sandbox? |
| 21:30.39 | dazoe | sandbox? |
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| 21:32.48 | g0rAngA | http://mysql-sandbox.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:33.01 | g0rAngA | it looks like more of a testing thing than anything else, though |
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| 21:37.04 | g0rAngA | sorry, dazoe. must fly. bye |
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| 21:37.16 | dazoe | l8 |
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| 21:46.54 | dazoe | hmmm, virtualbox or vmware? |
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| 21:51.36 | jelly-home | dazoe: both have heavy resource penalties. for web hosting you might want to look at vserver |
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| 21:52.41 | vjoe | hey |
| 21:52.49 | vjoe | how can I install Google Earth? |
| 21:53.03 | streuner | hm, there is a script in Debian |
| 21:53.04 | vjoe | I've already installed the googleearth-package and I'm downloading the .bin from the offical site |
| 21:53.13 | streuner | !find google |
| 21:53.15 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'google' (10): google-sitemapgen ;; googleearth-package ;; libgdata-google1.2-1 ;; libgdata-google1.2-dev ;; libgoogle-perftools-dev ;; libgoogle-perftools0 ;; libnet-google-perl ;; libwww-google-calculator-perl ;; opensync-plugin-google-calendar ;; python-pygooglechart. |
| 21:53.26 | streuner | !info googleearth-package |
| 21:53.27 | dpkg | googleearth-package: (utility to automatically build a Debian package of Google Earth), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.5.3 (sid), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
| 21:54.01 | streuner | that should it automaticially |
| 21:54.05 | streuner | do* |
| 21:54.16 | vjoe | i've tried googleearth and googleearth-package in the shell be the command wasn't found |
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| 21:55.26 | PhrkOnLsh | has anyone been able to build rtl818x-newstack (from rtl-wifi.sf.net) under 2.6.24-1? |
| 21:55.40 | vjoe | http://blog.irwan.name/?p=103 |
| 21:55.41 | vjoe | hm |
| 21:55.58 | PhrkOnLsh | the tkip module (which I don't particularly need) errs with undefined "proc_net" or so |
| 21:56.36 | cellofellow | I'm having some trouble with my Prism2.5 (Netgear MA311) |
| 21:56.37 | cellofellow | http://paste.debian.net/1013/ |
| 21:57.25 | streuner | vjoe: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 21:57.44 | vjoe | ii libc6 2.7-10 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 21:57.53 | vjoe | did you check the link I pasted? |
| 21:57.57 | streuner | streuner: unstable? |
| 21:58.04 | vjoe | make-googleearth-package outputs nothing |
| 21:58.04 | vjoe | :s |
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| 21:58.24 | cellofellow | I'm using etch. |
| 21:58.35 | dazoe | jelly-home: is there a tutorial for setting up and using vserver on debian? |
| 21:58.41 | streuner | vjoe: what does BTS say about? |
| 21:58.58 | vjoe | BTS? |
| 21:59.11 | streuner | !+tell vjoe -about bts |
| 21:59.11 | PhrkOnLsh | hmmm, it's also erring on the ieee80211 stack.... |
| 21:59.12 | dpkg | told vjoe about bts. |
| 21:59.12 | jelly-home | dazoe: I don't know of one, sorry |
| 21:59.39 | dazoe | jelly-home: k no biggy i'll figure it out and maybe use my other computer for testing |
| 22:00.20 | cellofellow | has someone looked at my paste? |
| 22:00.27 | vjoe | hm, none of the bugs are related to what's happening with me |
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| 22:03.48 | Bagoor | I was in Debian Installer (Lenny), and my graphic resolution changed (after installing all packages, and it's in the package configuration step) and I can only see colory boxes instead of texts. I have access to terminals, anyone knows how can I change resolution ? or restart the resolution stuff ? (It's text mode, not X) |
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| 22:06.41 | streuner | vjoe: Did you try the -force option? |
| 22:07.22 | vjoe | trying now, it's "loading" |
| 22:07.24 | dahlia | is there a plain svn command line client available in aptitude? all I can find are libraries and graphical ones and all I want is the command line svn |
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| 22:08.11 | darksk1ez | dahlia: subversion |
| 22:08.14 | stew | dahlia: the subversion pacakge |
| 22:08.18 | dahlia | k ty |
| 22:08.32 | vjoe | streuner, it worked!! |
| 22:08.33 | vjoe | :D |
| 22:08.36 | vjoe | thanks |
| 22:08.43 | streuner | np |
| 22:08.48 | vjoe | but it's strange that the other command gave no output |
| 22:09.01 | keith4321 | so, I'm trying to run IBM raid monitor... and it dies complaining about libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 |
| 22:09.14 | keith4321 | ldd indeed shows that it can't find that library. any ideas? |
| 22:09.24 | vjoe | just one more question, how do I uninstalla package installed through "dpkg -i"? |
| 22:09.25 | dahlia | found it thanks :) |
| 22:09.36 | keith4321 | dpkg -r |
| 22:09.39 | vjoe | i only install software through apt or the source code |
| 22:09.51 | vjoe | keith4321, thanks |
| 22:10.49 | vjoe | oh great.. |
| 22:10.50 | vjoe | Failed to load "/lib/libIGGfx.so" because "/lib/libIGGfx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 22:10.54 | vjoe | when I try to start it |
| 22:11.15 | vjoe | google has nothing :s |
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| 22:11.27 | darksk1ez | keith4321: eek, perhaps theres a more suitable pkg to download? or src? |
| 22:11.48 | keith4321 | darksk1ez nah, it's a binary off of the IBM cd |
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| 22:12.16 | darksk1ez | keith4321: must be something else that does the same thing. |
| 22:12.48 | keith4321 | if you can find me something that will talk to an IBM ServeRaid, let me know |
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| 22:16.08 | streuner | vjoe: well, that file doesnt even exist in Debian... |
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| 22:16.29 | PiousMinion | I love it. kernel 2.6.22-3-686 came with lenny and has since been replaced with 2.6.24-1-686... which refuses to boot. Not only that but the 2.6.22 header packages are gone so I can't compile new modules. What are my options? |
| 22:17.20 | Agrajag- | expand on "refuses to boot"? my lenny box with 2.6.24 works fine |
| 22:17.38 | vjoe | streuner, damn :s |
| 22:17.39 | darksk1ez | PiousMinion: thanks for "testing" :) |
| 22:17.42 | keith4321 | what happens when you try to boot 2.6.24? |
| 22:17.54 | vjoe | I have posted in the forum, maybe someone knows how to solve it |
| 22:17.55 | vjoe | bed time, cya |
| 22:17.56 | keith4321 | i have plenty of machines running lenn with 2.6.24 |
| 22:17.57 | PiousMinion | I'll try to catch the text and type it out here. |
| 22:17.58 | vjoe | bye |
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| 22:19.17 | PiousMinion | Loading, please wait... \n hdc: drive not ready for command \n BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s! [modprobe:814] ...............and it repeats this over and over. |
| 22:19.28 | Sebboh | Hi. I've been using exim4 to listen on smtp on my LAN and send any email that needs to go to the internet out via a 3rd party mail server (Google Apps). I think that exim4 is overkill.. And my configuration keeps breaking when I apt-get upgrade. Is there something more simple? |
| 22:19.32 | PiousMinion | I don't even get a full screen of text before this. |
| 22:20.07 | keith4321 | Sebboh: nullmailer |
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| 22:20.27 | keith4321 | PiousMinion: what's at /dev/hdc? |
| 22:21.26 | Sebboh | keith4321, hmm, that might be just what I need! I'll try it. Thanks. |
| 22:21.40 | keith4321 | \quit |
| 22:21.44 | keith4321 | shit |
| 22:21.46 | keith4321 | i hate bitchx |
| 22:21.59 | PiousMinion | keith4321: hdc is my sony dvd burner. |
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| 22:22.05 | azeem | keith4321: so use irssi |
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| 22:23.54 | PiousMinion | ok, so after an astonishing amount of time it eventually boots, but damn is that slow. |
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| 22:26.40 | cellofellow | I'm trying to upgrade the firmware in my Prism2.5 and I get this when running prism2_srec |
| 22:26.42 | cellofellow | Could not read wlan PDA. This requires PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT definition in |
| 22:26.42 | cellofellow | driver/module/hostap_config.h. |
| 22:26.56 | cellofellow | do I need to build hostap from source? |
| 22:27.00 | elif | hi, in testing there is another package for an audio (radio) listenning other than xmms2 ? I loved xmms, but seems its out of testing |
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| 22:27.28 | cellofellow | elif: audacious maybe |
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| 22:27.56 | cellofellow | elif: xmms2 is an all-new spin, and so is BMPx, but Audacious is the currently-maintained version of the old xmms. |
| 22:28.05 | \amethyst | no |
| 22:28.11 | cellofellow | no? |
| 22:28.12 | \amethyst | Audacious is a fork of BMP |
| 22:28.25 | damnnazi | i got two video card that dont work simultaneously |
| 22:28.39 | elif | hum, I'll check out about audacious... |
| 22:28.42 | cellofellow | so is BMPx, and BMP is not developed anymore nor is XMMS, which BMP and XMMS2 are forks of. |
| 22:28.43 | \amethyst | it is based on XMMS code |
| 22:28.44 | elif | thks the tips |
| 22:28.58 | cellofellow | XMMS -> BMP -> Audacious |
| 22:29.04 | \amethyst | but the authors don't like it when you compare it too closely with XMMS, for some reason |
| 22:29.07 | damnnazi | one cards works just fine right now |
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| 22:29.18 | elif | Nothing against xmms2, but to me I would stay with just xmms. |
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| 22:29.30 | sputnick | hi there |
| 22:29.30 | cellofellow | XMMS -> XMMS2, XMMS -> BMP -> BMPx |
| 22:30.12 | \amethyst | of those, XMMS2 and BMPx are rewrites, while BMP and Audacious inherit the XMMS codebase |
| 22:30.14 | cellofellow | elif: honestly Audacious is a great player that feels a lot like xmms and is still maintained and developed. |
| 22:30.14 | damnnazi | its one intel chipset video card and one virge s3 |
| 22:30.16 | sputnick | is anybody have apache broken since last upgrade ? "Server version: Apache/2.2.8 (Debian)" |
| 22:30.30 | damnnazi | the virge s3 works fine and so does the intel video card |
| 22:30.42 | damnnazi | but together |
| 22:30.48 | damnnazi | its a mess |
| 22:31.00 | cellofellow | S3 Virge on Debian works? I've always had problems with S3 Virge cards on Debian and Ubuntu. |
| 22:31.13 | damnnazi | cellofellow: then dont help me ok |
| 22:31.24 | damnnazi | so |
| 22:31.31 | cellofellow | sorry, was suprised |
| 22:31.41 | damnnazi | when i put these two cards together i get one scrambled screen |
| 22:32.02 | enouf | hi guys; there's some quirk i recall about .htaccess file on apache2 .. what was it? i mean has that file been superseded by another? or which dir does it need to be placed in ? |
| 22:32.03 | damnnazi | the intel card just scrambles the screen |
| 22:32.09 | \amethyst | when you say S3 Virge, we're talking a mid-to-late-90s card? |
| 22:32.14 | zinx | blames intel |
| 22:32.29 | damnnazi | yeah that might very well be amthyst |
| 22:33.08 | damnnazi | im not a very good sponsor of the economy |
| 22:33.20 | \amethyst | graphics adapters of that era didn't always support having multiple graphics adapters |
| 22:33.31 | enouf | cellofellow: ii xserver-xorg-video-s3virge 1:1.9.1-3 X.Org X server -- S3 ViRGE display driver |
| 22:33.46 | cellofellow | spending isn't what makes the economy go, it's saving. Down't listen to those Keynsians who say otherwise. |
| 22:34.02 | cellofellow | well, saving and investing savings, really, |
| 22:34.14 | azeem | cellofellow: please keep it on topic |
| 22:34.20 | cellofellow | ok |
| 22:34.26 | damnnazi | nah i got one built-in intel video card that works fine on its own but when i stick the s3 virge in a pci slot its not doing anything positive |
| 22:34.35 | damnnazi | just scrambles the screen |
| 22:34.41 | damnnazi | in X mode that is |
| 22:34.48 | damnnazi | text is just fine |
| 22:35.03 | \amethyst | damnnazi: can you disable the on-board card, and if so does the S3 work? |
| 22:35.14 | cellofellow | I recall it doing that sort of thing with an S3 Virge and a RIVA TNT2 together, but it was the S3 that went nuts. |
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| 22:35.28 | damnnazi | the S3 is in the pci slot right now and its working fine without any problem |
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| 22:35.49 | \amethyst | damnnazi: I'm wondering if maybe it's scribbling over the intel card's video memory |
| 22:35.54 | damnnazi | and no i cant disable the built-in card in the BIOS i checked it already |
| 22:36.06 | enouf | i'll never get all these names correct http://openchrome.org/ |
| 22:36.38 | damnnazi | its a strange problem |
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| 22:36.58 | enouf | but hehe - i have a mobo with teh k8m800 w/onboard graphics, but haven't put the box together yet |
| 22:37.00 | damnnazi | but it should work |
| 22:37.14 | damnnazi | cause they both work independantly |
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| 22:38.16 | cellofellow | this just sucks. I can't get my PCI Prism2.5 to update the firmware with prism2_srec or prism2dl. prism2dl just gives my unhelpful operation not supported errors |
| 22:38.23 | damnnazi | thats not 100% precise , the intel built-in card doesnt work as soon as i insert the S3 Virge into a slot |
| 22:38.35 | cellofellow | any slot?? |
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| 22:38.42 | damnnazi | pci slot |
| 22:39.10 | peter25 | hi, if I have a package for i386 is there any way to get it to run on amd64 kernel? |
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| 22:39.46 | cellofellow | peter25: chroots of some kind |
| 22:40.10 | damnnazi | i got myself an 200Watt amplifier |
| 22:40.15 | damnnazi | thats nice :) |
| 22:40.46 | damnnazi | the old speakers are still way better than the new 5.1 surround stuff |
| 22:41.12 | damnnazi | the old speakers vibrrrrate the walls |
| 22:41.58 | peter25 | i need to install a i386.deb (it's only available as i386) on a system with amd64 kernel, is there a way? |
| 22:42.03 | damnnazi | now if i can get this xinerama going then im happy |
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| 22:43.03 | \amethyst | damnnazi: you really might need a somewhat newer video card to be able to dual-head. I had this problem back in 1998 or so |
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| 22:43.18 | damnnazi | \amethyst: you had it too ? |
| 22:43.18 | cellofellow | I tried xinerama with a TNT2 and an S3 Virge and just never got it working too well. |
| 22:43.30 | \amethyst | damnnazi: I don't remember if it was an S3V |
| 22:43.40 | keith4__ | what paths are checks for libs? |
| 22:44.09 | damnnazi | \amethyst: and how did you fix it ? dont say you just bought another videocard |
| 22:44.27 | \amethyst | damnnazi: got two Matrox cards :( |
| 22:44.33 | damnnazi | ai |
| 22:44.49 | \amethyst | damnnazi: get a five-year-old PCI videocard and you should be fine |
| 22:44.56 | \amethyst | just not a ten-year-old one :) |
| 22:45.02 | damnnazi | eheh |
| 22:45.18 | damnnazi | well im not gving up yet |
| 22:45.28 | damnnazi | but i keep it in mind \amethyst |
| 22:45.43 | cellofellow | they aren't expensive, PCI vid cards. A friend of mine got a GeForce 5700 or something like that for $15. |
| 22:45.56 | damnnazi | its not about the money cellofellow |
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| 22:46.12 | \amethyst | keith4__: depends on when you're asking about |
| 22:46.19 | \amethyst | keith4__: at run time, or at link time ? |
| 22:46.45 | damnnazi | cellofellow: its about making it work |
| 22:47.28 | keith4__ | runtime |
| 22:47.29 | cellofellow | S3 Virge not worth your time. |
| 22:47.34 | \amethyst | keith4__: man ld.so |
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| 22:47.59 | damnnazi | k lets see what scroogle can tell me |
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| 22:48.05 | \amethyst | keith4__: 1. $LD_LIBRARY_PATH 2. the stuff listed in ld.so.cache 3. /usr/lib 4. lib |
| 22:48.24 | keith4__ | not usr/local/lib? |
| 22:48.26 | \amethyst | keith4__: ld.so.cache gets built by ldconfig based on the directories listed in /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 22:48.40 | \amethyst | keith4__: /etc/ld.so.conf, or one of the files it includes, probably contains /usr/local/lib |
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| 22:48.50 | keith4__ | okay, thanks |
| 22:48.52 | keith4__ | i'll check it out |
| 22:49.08 | \amethyst | keith4__: man ldconfig (in addition to ld.so) |
| 22:49.17 | damnnazi | (EE) S3VIRGE(1): Cannot read V_BIOS |
| 22:49.44 | damnnazi | thats the error i got from /var/log/X.org |
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| 22:51.10 | keith4__ | \amethyst: how do I regenerate the cache? |
| 22:51.42 | \amethyst | keith4__: with ldconfig |
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| 22:52.20 | keith4__ | grumbles |
| 22:52.32 | keith4__ | doesn't seem to be finding this lib |
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| 22:52.56 | keith4__ | ah, i'm an idiot |
| 22:53.31 | keith4__ | nope, still not working |
| 22:54.11 | damnnazi | besides |
| 22:54.26 | damnnazi | i do have the S3 Virge videocard working properly |
| 22:54.35 | damnnazi | its the built-in intel card |
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| 22:55.59 | cellofellow | strange, that seems backwards, cause when I did it, my AGP RIVA TNT2 worked fine but the PCI S3 Virge went crazy. |
| 22:55.59 | Soskel | hi |
| 22:56.06 | keith4__ | \amethyst: i made a new conf in /etc/ld.so.conf.d, which contains "\usr\local\lib\foo", I put a lib (that came with this package) in \usr\local\lib\foo\, ran ldconfig, but I get "./arcconf: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 22:56.12 | Soskel | how can I have root and another use have full access to a directory? |
| 22:56.30 | damnnazi | cellofellow: yeah thats why im repeating it again cause you were confusing me |
| 22:56.52 | keith4__ | Soskel: root has access to everything. just chown the dir to the user |
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| 22:57.02 | k-man__ | hello |
| 22:57.18 | Soskel | keith4__: i'm sorry, but what's the command? |
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| 22:57.35 | k-man__ | software suspend used to work for me, then i did an apt-get upgrade and now swsusp segfaults when i try and resume |
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| 22:57.56 | k-man__ | any ideas how to track down why its not working? |
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| 23:00.07 | cellofellow | well, I hope building hostap-utils from the source package works form this Prism card. |
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| 23:01.38 | Soskel | keith4__: ?? |
| 23:01.45 | damnnazi | Soskel: you want the chown command ? |
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| 23:02.14 | Soskel | damnnazi: yes please |
| 23:02.27 | damnnazi | Soskel: chown |
| 23:02.34 | \amethyst | Soskel: man chown will tell you how to use it. generally chown user file |
| 23:02.42 | Sebboh | keith4__, nullmailer doesn't listen for incoming SMTP. |
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| 23:02.57 | \amethyst | Soskel: as keith4__ said, root will always have access, so you don't need to do anything about that |
| 23:02.59 | cellofellow | to edit a source package, I can just untar the tarball and edit the files, and then retar it? |
| 23:03.16 | Sebboh | I need to accept mail from machines on my LAN.. and forward it out to the real mail server. |
| 23:03.23 | \amethyst | Soskel: a file can have only one owner at a time, but it also has a group, that can be used to give permissions to multiple users |
| 23:03.31 | \amethyst | !permissions |
| 23:03.31 | dpkg | For more information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions' and http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions or http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html - for even further info see these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod, or follow the setuid and setgid links found in the wikipedia pages, or http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
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| 23:04.11 | Soskel | thanks |
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| 23:04.32 | damnnazi | to the website builder that run windowz the advice is chmod 777 |
| 23:04.40 | keith4__ | Sebboh: no. nullmailer on the machines that have to *send* mail |
| 23:05.02 | damnnazi | those people just dont get it |
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| 23:05.14 | dondelelcaro | ugh. anyone who even thinks about using 0777 is braindead |
| 23:05.47 | damnnazi | yeah then try explaining the proper way to use permissions to a windowz webbuilder |
| 23:05.54 | \amethyst | it's funny too |
| 23:06.03 | \amethyst | because Windows has had ACLs longer than Linux has |
| 23:06.03 | joako | hi, i just install us-splash in my sid and now after reboot it show me the progress bar but dont start gnome anymore |
| 23:06.10 | Sebboh | keith4__, oh, hell. Not an option. :) |
| 23:06.11 | \amethyst | if you count NT, anyway |
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| 23:06.49 | damnnazi | nice one joako you broke it |
| 23:06.57 | keith4__ | Sebboh: if you don't like exim (I don't) you could always use postfix |
| 23:07.00 | joako | jejeje yes. |
| 23:07.19 | joako | anyway to fixed? |
| 23:07.22 | damnnazi | joako: man update-rc.d |
| 23:07.32 | joako | ok thanx |
| 23:07.44 | damnnazi | joako: to fix the startup links to gnome |
| 23:08.20 | damnnazi | joako: can you start gnoma manually ? |
| 23:08.27 | damnnazi | gnome* |
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| 23:08.53 | joako | no, when the progress bar completed, my screen goes black , like dead |
| 23:08.57 | Sebboh | I need to build a mail server that will receive mail via SMTP (from a java web application) and relay it on to the Google Apps mail servers.. I had exim4 configured to do this before, but some automagic config file upgrade voodoo ate my config files. (My fault, I'm sure.) |
| 23:09.45 | damnnazi | then the gnome startup links are still in place likely |
| 23:10.17 | joako | yes i think so... |
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| 23:11.04 | joako | any other idea? |
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| 23:12.23 | keith4__ | Sebboh: nullmailer is a fine replacement for sending mail from a single host |
| 23:12.56 | dondelelcaro | Sebboh: why isn't the java web application just running /usr/lib/sendmail? |
| 23:15.05 | joako | ey gotta a question , if i mount my second partition(ext3), and make a chroot, everything than i install by apt its gonna be installed in my second partition system? |
| 23:15.07 | Kruser | hi |
| 23:15.45 | Soskel | http://clome.net/stuph/screens//debian_%28irc.freenode.net%29-20080417-191829.jpg |
| 23:15.46 | damnnazi | joako: yes |
| 23:16.05 | Kruser | i´m looking for a traffic limitation, and/or usermanagement system vor linux server |
| 23:16.17 | damnnazi | joako: you chroot into your second system and then when you use apt get in that chroot its updating only the chrooted system |
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| 23:16.31 | joako | so i can uninstall us-splash from my working system |
| 23:16.39 | joako | cooll |
| 23:16.45 | joako | thanx my friend |
| 23:17.10 | Soskel | http://clome.net/stuph/screens//debian_%28irc.freenode.net%29-20080417-192001.jpg |
| 23:17.14 | damnnazi | joako: ok maet |
| 23:17.19 | damnnazi | mate* |
| 23:17.25 | cellofellow | why isn't the ability to flash firmware built in to hostap-utils? |
| 23:17.37 | Kruser | the traffic @server is tunnled through a vpn, and routet over a sqid proxy, i need a tool, to limit the bandwith and traffic vor users, or ip/adresses |
| 23:17.49 | damnnazi | i wanted to ask another question |
| 23:17.58 | cellofellow | the binary, it's there in the source code somewhere, if only I can find it. |
| 23:18.12 | damnnazi | i found this memstick |
| 23:18.40 | damnnazi | its an usb memstick and i wanted to know how i can use it |
| 23:19.06 | damnnazi | im textonly mostly so forget those X tools |
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| 23:19.13 | asg | damnnazi: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 23:19.18 | damnnazi | thnks |
| 23:19.51 | damnnazi | damn now my alt key is broken |
| 23:20.25 | damnnazi | !dpkg usb-storage |
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| 23:21.02 | damnnazi | !tell damnnazi about usb-storage |
| 23:21.24 | damnnazi | how the hell did i break my alt key anyways |
| 23:21.40 | damnnazi | its probably this openbox |
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| 23:22.31 | damnnazi | asg: how can i msg the bot in the channel ? |
| 23:22.48 | asg | !usb-storage |
| 23:22.48 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. ask me about <automount> |
| 23:22.49 | cellofellow | I'm trying to follow these steps but it just isn't working. |
| 23:22.51 | cellofellow | http://linux.junsun.net/intersil-prism/ |
| 23:23.18 | cellofellow | I did apt-get source hostap-utils, but that isn't the package I'm looking for. I need the driver source, where is that? |
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| 23:24.35 | damnnazi | did you add a deb-src line to your sources.list |
| 23:25.01 | cellofellow | that part works, I just don't know where the hostap kernel drivers are, not the userland utils I was just mucking around in. |
| 23:25.46 | cellofellow | do I have to download and compile the whole kernel to get this wireless card working? |
| 23:27.10 | keith4__ | you can install kernel source, buddy |
| 23:27.11 | keith4__ | relax |
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| 23:27.51 | cellofellow | huh? |
| 23:28.18 | cellofellow | I just need to make one little change to the hostap driver, and then I'm set. So, what do I download? |
| 23:28.33 | keith4__ | the hostap driver is in the kernel tree? |
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| 23:28.43 | prolix | hello debian-o-philes |
| 23:28.48 | cellofellow | it's a module, but I'm not sure what package |
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| 23:29.02 | keith4__ | install the kernel source package |
| 23:29.14 | cellofellow | how do I tell what package a file comes from? there's a dpkg command for that somewhere, right? |
| 23:30.02 | cellofellow | keith4_: apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r`? |
| 23:30.56 | abrotman | aptitude |
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| 23:31.02 | abrotman | oh.. nevermind |
| 23:31.09 | cellofellow | haha |
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| 23:31.52 | cellofellow | I know there's some switch to dpkg to have it say what package a file comes from. |
| 23:32.02 | cellofellow | What is it? dang, I hate it when I forget these things. |
| 23:32.23 | cellofellow | -S! |
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| 23:33.59 | cellofellow | keith4_: you were right. I'll just download that source code and wait half an hour for it to do that. |
| 23:34.28 | cellofellow | keith4_: then what? |
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| 23:35.13 | tuckerm | I freshly installed debian and my default screen refresh rate is 76hz and I can't change it to 6ohz (my lcd moniter is that). |
| 23:35.31 | prolix | i just finished running the instructions on how to install the rtl8187 driver for my machine which runs 2.6.22-4-686 and i'm stumped. if anyone could be so kind as to give me a hand, i'd greatly appreciate it. i've pasted what i think to be the information relative to my problem here: http://rafb.net/p/dshPEE64.html |
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| 23:36.00 | abrotman | prolix: uname -a returns ? |
| 23:36.04 | lost_soul | bbl, enjoy everyone |
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| 23:36.49 | tuckerm | Anyone? |
| 23:36.56 | prolix | abrotman: uname -a Linux freedom 2.6.22-4-686 #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 16:29:32 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linu |
| 23:37.13 | abrotman | erm .. i meant cat /proc/version :) |
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| 23:37.21 | abrotman | prolix: if you're on lenny/sid .. your kernel is out of date |
| 23:37.21 | prolix | heh. ok. |
| 23:37.28 | prolix | abrotman: i'm on etch |
| 23:37.34 | abrotman | lovely |
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| 23:37.49 | abrotman | prolix: are you sure the version of that driver in etch supports your device? |
| 23:38.07 | epsilon | tuckerm: give fix rate in xorg.conf or try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (select advances setting of display setting) |
| 23:38.19 | prolix | abrotman: here's the out put to cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.22-4-686 (Debian 2.6.22-6~bpo40+2) (nobse@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 16:29:32 UTC 2008 |
| 23:38.24 | abrotman | ok |
| 23:38.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | is there something in debian that makes and removes the softlinks to the init.d scripts in the different runlevels in debian? |
| 23:38.49 | asg | CutMeOwnThroat: update-rc.d |
| 23:38.52 | prolix | abrotman: according to the instructions on the site with the instructions, it should work with the 62 version whatever that means, so i entered the appropriate line for svn |
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| 23:39.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | asg: thanks |
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| 23:39.40 | abrotman | prolix: let me look at the instructions |
| 23:39.44 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: also rcconf |
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| 23:39.51 | prolix | abrotman: ok |
| 23:40.12 | prolix | abrotman: and thank you |
| 23:40.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman: ah, that's more what I had in mind, thanks |
| 23:41.13 | abrotman | prolix: did you get all those .ko's created? |
| 23:41.52 | prolix | abrotman: yes, i did. |
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| 23:42.53 | abrotman | prolix: and removed all the others? |
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| 23:43.58 | prolix | abrotman: my knowledge of the situation is restricted to what's on that site. i did: rm -r /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/ieee80211 |
| 23:44.32 | prolix | abrotman: that was prior to running 'make' |
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| 23:44.46 | abrotman | prolix: paste the output of lsmod |
| 23:44.57 | prolix | abrotman: ok. one moment, please |
| 23:46.07 | prolix | abrotman: http://rafb.net/p/HTuKlA34.html |
| 23:46.09 | tuckerm | epsilon: how do i give a fixed rate, where at |
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| 23:48.24 | abrotman | prolix: nope .. seems normal .. check in #wireless .. see if they have an idea |
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| 23:48.33 | abrotman | prolix: at least seems normal based on that website |
| 23:48.47 | prolix | abrotman: will do. thank you kindly for your time :) |
| 23:49.41 | abrotman | prolix: did you do the full install bit yet? |
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| 23:50.07 | icesword | WormFood, hiya, how are you doing yesterday |
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| 23:54.49 | dacs | how can identify my modem |
| 23:55.19 | cizzi | lspci |
| 23:55.26 | cizzi | will list devices |
| 23:57.27 | icesword | !tell dacs about hwinfo |
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| 23:59.32 | abrotman | !whats my hardware |
| 23:59.33 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! |
