| 00:00.01 | cafuego | yep |
| 00:00.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | Austin`, debian has no edgy release |
| 00:00.19 | abrotman | Austin`: yes, it will likely die a horrible death |
| 00:00.56 | themill | feels sorry for Austin`'s box... |
| 00:02.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | wonders if tasksel is broken |
| 00:02.22 | themill | Kamping_Kaiser: imho it always has been |
| 00:02.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | i think this is the second time i've used it, and i'm not sure its doign what i asked ;| |
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| 00:05.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | ctrl:nocaps == ftw |
| 00:06.18 | nevyn | indeed |
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| 00:06.41 | WaffleMatt | I've become accustomed to hitting ctrl with the side of my hand in the corner |
| 00:06.56 | WaffleMatt | I personally use capslock to open an x terminal emulator. |
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| 00:07.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | anyone aware of a way to get the same behaviour as ctrl:nocaps in the ttys? i'm assuming i'll need to hack inittab ? |
| 00:07.30 | amphi | capslock makes a nice mod4 |
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| 00:08.54 | LimCore | amphi: but then how one can use IRC? |
| 00:09.03 | amphi | heh |
| 00:09.07 | WaffleMatt | CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL, IMHO |
| 00:09.14 | WaffleMatt | ... Except I had to hold shift. |
| 00:09.27 | LimCore | sets WaffleMatt up the bomb |
| 00:10.04 | LimCore | there should be cool keyboards with more extra keys next to alt etc |
| 00:10.30 | nevyn | what like super and meta? |
| 00:10.35 | nevyn | and hyper? |
| 00:10.44 | samducker | anyone got experience with nx server |
| 00:11.35 | cafuego | more keys == teh suck |
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| 00:12.00 | themill | bucky! |
| 00:12.09 | nevyn | bah just cause you like tiny keyboards |
| 00:12.21 | Nyle | modem |
| 00:12.43 | samducker | nx server... I'm getting connection refused |
| 00:12.47 | Nyle | LimCore, more keys for specific tasts are cool |
| 00:12.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | out of date man pages annoy me :| inittab's tells you to look at apackage which no longer exists for more details |
| 00:12.53 | cafuego | nevyn: .. yes, that means everyone else is wrong. |
| 00:12.54 | Nyle | LimCore, also, easily configurable too |
| 00:13.03 | Nyle | LimCore, you can map whatever to whatever |
| 00:13.10 | nevyn | cafuego: pm. |
| 00:13.12 | themill | !tell samducker about connection refusd |
| 00:13.22 | themill | !tell samducker about connection refused |
| 00:13.25 | abrotman | samducker: nx is NOT in debian .. ask their support channel |
| 00:13.28 | Nyle | themill, have you used kde 4 yet? |
| 00:13.34 | cafuego | nevyn: Not unless you're identified with nickserv, which you're not. |
| 00:13.34 | samducker | abrotman: do they have one? |
| 00:13.35 | Nyle | amphi, pin |
| 00:13.39 | amphi | pon |
| 00:13.40 | abrotman | !nx |
| 00:13.41 | dpkg | nx is probably http://www.nomachine.com/ NX terminal server client/server. Like VNC but faster, with security, multi-client. Partially non-free. #nx |
| 00:13.44 | Nyle | sup |
| 00:13.53 | nevyn | cafuego: bah havn't scripted that on this host. |
| 00:13.56 | themill | Nyle: no. Don't have the time or inclination to make work for myself. |
| 00:13.59 | cafuego | heh |
| 00:14.42 | Nyle | frozen plasma pwnz |
| 00:14.50 | Nyle | but its still not fully compelete |
| 00:15.10 | Nyle | another year or two before its good as a desktop imo i think |
| 00:16.16 | amphi | bah, desktop - a root window is enough for anyone |
| 00:16.32 | Nyle | amphi, yeh.. like 64kb of ram was supposed to be enough |
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| 00:16.49 | amphi | Nyle: exactly |
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| 00:16.56 | Nyle | ok |
| 00:17.00 | Nyle | you da man :) |
| 00:17.13 | amphi | well, one of them, perhaps |
| 00:17.22 | Nyle | close enough |
| 00:17.52 | Nyle | i think my laptop hdd is dying |
| 00:18.08 | amphi | but I never liked DEs myself; horrid panels, hideous icons all over my root window, ... |
| 00:18.11 | Nyle | i've got a boatload of ata errors in dmesg |
| 00:18.12 | Nyle | sucks |
| 00:18.18 | amphi | run smartctl on it |
| 00:18.24 | Nyle | amphi, nah |
| 00:18.32 | Nyle | I configure kde to a minimal desktop |
| 00:18.34 | Nyle | no desktop icons |
| 00:18.43 | Nyle | 1 tiny panel for icons, no taskbars |
| 00:18.58 | Nyle | left click on desktop == window list, right click == application menu |
| 00:19.03 | amphi | I recall smartctl giving me the happy message "disk failure predicted within 24 hours - BACK UP NOW" |
| 00:19.05 | Nyle | rest keyboard shortcuts |
| 00:19.09 | LimCore | Nyle: my died yesterday. to backup *now* |
| 00:19.17 | Nyle | amphi, headless laptop |
| 00:19.24 | Nyle | amphi, used as a server, I have not checked it in a long time |
| 00:19.31 | amphi | Nyle: heh, I've seen a few of those |
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| 00:20.01 | LimCore | RaceKondition: tere \o |
| 00:20.02 | Nyle | LimCore, I've access to a clean room and data recovery lab |
| 00:20.05 | Nyle | my friend owns a shop |
| 00:20.13 | amphi | Nyle: I don't find application menus useful at all; keybindings for specific things, and a binding for grun works best, I find |
| 00:20.16 | LimCore | Nyle: yes, that sonds easier =) |
| 00:20.25 | Nyle | but i've nothing on the disk I need really |
| 00:20.28 | Nyle | just /home junk |
| 00:20.47 | RaceKondition | LimCore: yoyo (tere ise ka) |
| 00:20.49 | Nyle | amphi, I find not what you find |
| 00:20.55 | Nyle | but I find what I find |
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| 00:21.13 | Nyle | take your rifle and fight for your right, love your platoon and enjoy your fight |
| 00:21.28 | amphi | Nyle: evidently, you're not a golfer |
| 00:21.38 | Nyle | i don't think he said evidently |
| 00:21.39 | Nyle | hang on |
| 00:21.47 | simonrvn | amphi: ha, you use grun too eh :) |
| 00:22.05 | amphi | simonrvn: yeah, it's great |
| 00:22.16 | amphi | Nyle: 'obviously', I think, on reflection |
| 00:22.18 | Nyle | he said obviously |
| 00:22.21 | Nyle | yeh |
| 00:22.28 | Nyle | i know every fucking line in that movie mn |
| 00:22.37 | Nyle | simonrvn, hi |
| 00:22.46 | simonrvn | hello |
| 00:22.53 | Nyle | simonrvn, are you a golfer? |
| 00:22.57 | simonrvn | no |
| 00:23.05 | Nyle | cool |
| 00:23.14 | Nyle | neither am I |
| 00:23.19 | simonrvn | not strenuous enough for me |
| 00:23.26 | Nyle | its a lot of work man |
| 00:23.30 | Nyle | what are you talking about |
| 00:23.34 | Nyle | you hit a ball |
| 00:23.47 | Nyle | you walk after it, and hit it agian, and walk after it some more, until you put it in a hole |
| 00:23.52 | PhrkOnLsh | Is there any command to change the backlight brightness on my laptop? |
| 00:23.53 | simonrvn | too expensive |
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| 00:24.15 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: xbacklight |
| 00:24.25 | simonrvn | PhrkOnLsh: likely. what it is, i don't know. there ya go |
| 00:24.34 | abrotman | PhrkOnLsh: apt-cache search backlight |
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| 00:24.55 | PhrkOnLsh | ah, thanks abrotman |
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| 00:26.00 | simonrvn | abrotman: hi. got some "new" hardware =) |
| 00:26.20 | abrotman | simonrvn: upgrading to a PIII eh? :) |
| 00:26.46 | tinin | hey, why debian testing hasn't got xmms? |
| 00:26.52 | simonrvn | already had a p3, got an amd athlon |
| 00:26.57 | abrotman | !info xmms etch |
| 00:27.03 | dpkg | xmms: (Versatile X audio player), section sound, is optional. Version: 1:1.2.10+20061101-1etch1 (etch), Packaged size: 2108 kB, Installed size: 6268 kB |
| 00:27.07 | simonrvn | cpu MHz : 908.950 |
| 00:27.09 | abrotman | that was easy! |
| 00:27.18 | tinin | !info xmms lenny |
| 00:27.19 | abrotman | simonrvn: does it make eggs? |
| 00:27.31 | simonrvn | actually pretty cool running |
| 00:27.49 | abrotman | tinin: try xmms2 package |
| 00:27.55 | simonrvn | 38 and 56 C |
| 00:28.04 | Nyle | goddamn |
| 00:28.07 | simonrvn | hotter than my g3 :/ |
| 00:28.10 | Nyle | 56c is a bit much |
| 00:28.20 | simonrvn | yeh, i gotta check it |
| 00:28.31 | tinin | I just need a minimal mp3 player for a lightweigt installation on a usb |
| 00:28.34 | skypce | si te sirve de ayuda prueba con "audacious" es parecido a xmms |
| 00:28.45 | abrotman | skypce: english |
| 00:28.46 | Nyle | !es |
| 00:28.46 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 00:30.18 | simonrvn | abrotman: also got some intel 1 ghz cpu... cen-something |
| 00:30.39 | abrotman | simonrvn: were you dumpster diving? |
| 00:31.17 | simonrvn | a friend of mine dumped a bunch of stuff on me, that had been |
| 00:31.32 | simonrvn | second-hand dumpster dive =) |
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| 00:32.47 | simonrvn | now i gotta get the hdd from the other box the p3, into this thing |
| 00:33.10 | simonrvn | fancy little video cards too. i'm using a radeon 9000 ATM |
| 00:33.12 | PhrkOnLsh | xbacklight is saying that "No outputs have backlight property" |
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| 00:33.52 | simonrvn | no more fucking with proprietary effing drivers |
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| 00:34.38 | susanoo | so |
| 00:34.42 | abrotman | the 9000 doesn't need the fglrx |
| 00:34.43 | susanoo | how good is debian ? |
| 00:34.51 | susanoo | is it better than ubuntu ? |
| 00:34.57 | simonrvn | abrotman: nope :). got 3d and dri working fine |
| 00:35.06 | abrotman | susanoo: you're in #debian, what do you think we'd say? |
| 00:35.16 | epifanio | guys .. the netboot worksbut at the step : install grub as boot loader it fails to install grub |
| 00:35.31 | PhrkOnLsh | define fails |
| 00:35.44 | epifanio | *failure |
| 00:35.49 | simonrvn | i like debian better... having used both. less quirks with debian than with ubuntu |
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| 00:36.11 | epifanio | it do not install grub or lilo as boot loader |
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| 00:38.09 | epifanio | have you any clue about? i tried to install grub several times, but is is freezed a t 0% ... and after some time give me di failure notification |
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| 00:39.49 | Beerded | susanoo: Debian is much better to administrate, but you need to know your way around the shell and system ;) |
| 00:42.24 | epifanio | what can i do ? the next option is : continue without a boot loader :-( |
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| 00:45.37 | epifanio | can i chose : continue without a boot loader ? |
| 00:46.15 | epifanio | and then, how can i start debian? |
| 00:46.28 | cafuego | No. Instead, see if you can get LILO to install. |
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| 00:47.17 | epifanio | no lilo too give me a failure, it stop its installation at 50% |
| 00:48.21 | epifanio | in the installer menu i see an option : launch a shall ... maybe can i use the shall to install grub ? |
| 00:48.41 | cafuego | yeah, giv that a try |
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| 00:49.05 | cafuego | you'll need to chroot into the install target dir (/target) before you can do that |
| 00:49.30 | epifanio | i never used it to install grub please can you follow me ? |
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| 00:50.33 | cafuego | I need to go into a meeting, so I can't, sorry |
| 00:50.57 | epifanio | have you a link or some suggestion about it ? |
| 00:51.28 | epifanio | i can try to follow any possible suggestion :-/ |
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| 00:54.24 | [unix] | hmph |
| 00:54.55 | [unix] | epifanio: u using separate /boot? |
| 00:55.07 | susanoo | does it require you any purchases of codecs in order to play videos on debian player |
| 00:55.08 | susanoo | ? |
| 00:55.13 | susanoo | such as vlc |
| 00:55.17 | simonrvn | what? no |
| 00:55.21 | [unix] | susanoo: no |
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| 00:55.27 | wvmac | all of my terminal apps (elinks, irssi) have a network lag, firefox is fine. disabled ipv6. running lenny |
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| 00:55.40 | epifanio | no i've only one partition |
| 00:55.47 | susanoo | am using a ps3 |
| 00:56.11 | epifanio | when the installer asched me i choose : all on one partition |
| 00:56.55 | [unix] | susanoo: then use MPlayer |
| 00:57.38 | [unix] | I deduct that w32 binary x86 codecs wont run on Cell... (somehow) |
| 00:57.49 | simonrvn | cell is ppc... |
| 00:57.59 | susanoo | how many of you browses youtube ? on their debian ? |
| 00:58.01 | [unix] | simonrvn: yes, cpt. O |
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| 00:58.20 | simonrvn | susanoo: many do. |
| 00:58.21 | [unix] | susanoo: actually, i wont 'browse it' |
| 00:58.23 | simonrvn | !polls |
| 00:58.23 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 00:58.26 | epifanio | when i tried to install lilo it asched me for : /dev/hda: master boot record or : /dev/hda1: new debian partition ; or "other" (advanced) |
| 00:58.33 | [unix] | all that i do - download video with script |
| 00:58.34 | epifanio | i tried only the first option |
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| 00:58.58 | simonrvn | youtube-dl ;) |
| 00:59.26 | [unix] | epifanio: hm |
| 00:59.44 | [unix] | PS3 BIOS may protect MBR |
| 00:59.49 | epifanio | now i selected the second option : /dev/hda1 ... but it do not |
| 01:00.38 | simonrvn | i sorta doubt it has a bios... unless they tacked a monstrosity like that onto it |
| 01:00.48 | epifanio | do you know if exists a workaround to have grub/lilo installed |
| 01:00.56 | simonrvn | google knows |
| 01:00.59 | [unix] | epifanio: sec |
| 01:01.05 | [unix] | it was on ibm-dw |
| 01:01.21 | epifanio | i'm tring to google |
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| 01:02.01 | simonrvn | don't try, do ;) |
| 01:02.59 | [unix] | slaps powerpc 'router' with a big dirty grinder |
| 01:03.11 | [unix] | that mac g3 rly sucks :( |
| 01:03.12 | epifanio | i'm on google too, but until now i can't find an answer |
| 01:03.54 | simonrvn | search engine-fu tip: use keywords, not sentences |
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| 01:04.42 | octox2 | i can run this shell script from the command line, and shouldnt this also work in cron */5 * * * * /etc/init.d/rc.flush-iptables |
| 01:05.12 | simonrvn | which cron? user's? system? |
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| 01:05.24 | simonrvn | er, which crontab, rather |
| 01:06.25 | octox2 | i think users , but for the root user |
| 01:06.33 | epifanio | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.47 | susanoo | any of you debian users here using a ps3 ? |
| 01:07.18 | [unix] | epifanio: seems u must erase entire HDD and create one new partition |
| 01:07.55 | abrotman | !ps3 |
| 01:07.56 | dpkg | methinks ps3 is a gaming console known for having a bad rep mostly because of its extreme cost.this has been fixed as of e3 2007 as sony has put in place a price drop to drop the current price to 499.99 USD.The ps3 is known for having the blu-ray drive,having storage capacities of upto 50gb,with companies currently developing 200gb discs.It utilizes the cell processor,made up of 8 ppc64 based spu's,of which do all the works of games,media,etc.7 of |
| 01:08.02 | abrotman | bah .. useless |
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| 01:11.12 | epifanio | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.58 | lykaios | hello |
| 01:12.09 | lykaios | regards from Costa Rica |
| 01:12.53 | lykaios | anyone know how to set a dhcp lease file using dhcp3 on debian |
| 01:13.18 | [unix] | epifanio: if i truely understand manual, then you must install on sdb |
| 01:13.24 | [unix] | not sda |
| 01:14.22 | cricket[b] | i just switched from ubuntu to debian and i'm having trouble setting up wifi... i used ndiswrapper and the driver is installed the wifi light is on.. however iwconfig does not list wlan0 nor does the network monitor have an "enable wireless" toggle... if anyone has any suggestions that would be great thatnks |
| 01:15.15 | abrotman | cricket[b]: what's your chipset ? |
| 01:15.16 | [unix] | cricket[b]: iwconfig? |
| 01:15.21 | [unix] | and chipset |
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| 01:16.11 | cricket[b] | 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01) |
| 01:16.57 | cricket[b] | lo no wireless extentions.... eth0 no wireless extention... sit0 no wireless extentions |
| 01:17.55 | [unix] | epifanio: or try to erase all the data on sda when partitioning disc, and create separate /boot and swap |
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| 01:19.13 | epifanio | swap size is twice the ram, what size for the /boot partition ? |
| 01:19.31 | lykaios | ? |
| 01:19.49 | [unix] | epifanio: 100-150Mb is bigger than enough |
| 01:20.08 | epifanio | ok |
| 01:20.12 | [unix] | and use ex3 fs for /boot |
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| 01:20.20 | [unix] | *ext3 |
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| 01:21.44 | Kurtism | I installed the ati drivers using the debian packages, and module-assistant, and I have installed xorg, and it all loads, however when I hit ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to console the whole system crashes.... any ideas? |
| 01:21.57 | Kurtism | could it be the console has to be configured to use the ati drivers? |
| 01:23.50 | Kurtism | anybody? |
| 01:24.00 | [unix] | Kurtism: actually, its old bug of ati drivers |
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| 01:24.05 | [unix] | dont touch console |
| 01:24.06 | Samonoske | hey |
| 01:24.16 | [unix] | or use "ati"/"radeonhd" |
| 01:24.32 | Samonoske | does anyone have any knowledge on how to use two cd/dvd drives to burn content..so that data on one cd goes to the second dvd/cd drive and burns on the blank cd. |
| 01:24.59 | Kurtism | what? |
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| 01:25.12 | Kurtism | really, is there a fix for that bug? |
| 01:25.18 | abrotman | Kurtism: what is your card? |
| 01:25.19 | [unix] | Kurtism: maybe |
| 01:25.27 | Kurtism | x800pro |
| 01:25.31 | [unix] | try download new drivers from amd's site |
| 01:25.42 | [unix] | and install by hands |
| 01:25.45 | abrotman | no |
| 01:25.47 | Kurtism | ouch |
| 01:25.56 | Kurtism | no to what? |
| 01:26.02 | abrotman | Kurtism: are you on etch ? |
| 01:26.04 | Kurtism | a fix? or install drivers by hand |
| 01:26.06 | Kurtism | I'm using lenny |
| 01:26.13 | abrotman | Kurtism: do you need 3d? |
| 01:26.18 | Kurtism | I'd like 3d |
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| 01:26.21 | abrotman | need |
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| 01:26.28 | [unix] | using lenny with hd2900xt |
| 01:26.38 | Kurtism | I couldn't get mythtv to work right, so I wanted the ati drivers |
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| 01:26.43 | Kurtism | but perhaps I can make it work without them |
| 01:26.45 | abrotman | Kurtism: the radeon driver gives you 2d .. |
| 01:26.56 | [unix] | 2d and xv |
| 01:26.58 | abrotman | Kurtism: see if the same issue happens with either radeon and/or vesa |
| 01:27.07 | Kurtism | perhaps my xv is not setup |
| 01:27.16 | Kurtism | I've heard of xv but I thought it was an nvidia only thing |
| 01:27.50 | Kurtism | I'm not 100% sure how to switch back to the 3rd party radeon 2d driver |
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| 01:28.03 | abrotman | Kurtism: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. choose the radeon driver |
| 01:28.11 | Kurtism | okiedokie |
| 01:28.41 | Kurtism | so this is a long time known bug of the ati drivers with x800s? |
| 01:28.42 | [unix] | or just write Driver "ati" insted of Driver "fglrx" in xorg.conf |
| 01:29.04 | abrotman | Kurtism: it's not just the fglrx |
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| 01:29.48 | [unix] | "but I thought it was an nvidia only thing" - actually, now it is nvidia only thing :( HD-series havent and HW support of xv |
| 01:29.56 | [unix] | but X800 have |
| 01:30.02 | [unix] | *an HW |
| 01:30.39 | rgr | I have a problem (well a few since laast lenny updates) with /dev/dvd vanishing. Someone suggested installing alsa-oss which I duly did. After a reboot /dev/dvd is still missing and I must manually link /dev/dvdrw1 to it. What gives? Any suggestions? |
| 01:31.25 | Kurtism | so is it an xorg problem? |
| 01:31.42 | abrotman | Kurtism: try the radeon driver |
| 01:31.52 | Kurtism | I googled "xorg crashes when switching to console" and that didn't work out so well |
| 01:32.06 | Kurtism | yeah I'm trying it right now.... its asking me if I want to use framebuffer mode |
| 01:32.19 | Kurtism | Use kernel framebuffer device interface? |
| 01:32.22 | abrotman | no |
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| 01:39.06 | Dummies_freelanc | hi, look this please http://rafb.net/p/oEfVe565.html |
| 01:39.39 | Dummies_freelanc | i wan compÃle kernel and execute make xconfig or make menuconfig |
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| 01:40.39 | Azar | hello honorables! |
| 01:41.31 | Azar | I wonder why my xmms running is increasing net traffic... is maybe calling home? |
| 01:41.45 | Azar | !moo dpkg |
| 01:42.01 | PhrkOnLsh | It could also be doing a plethora of other things. |
| 01:42.49 | Penix | Azar: calling which 'home' to do what? |
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| 01:43.22 | Penix | Azar: a logical explanation would be an enabled plugin connecting to something |
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| 01:43.27 | Azar | something is doing because I see it on "htop" with a strange process, why the heck would net a net connection? |
| 01:43.39 | Azar | hm |
| 01:43.43 | Penix | oh, ok. yeah, then it's certainly contacting Novell and reporting your torrent traffic |
| 01:44.00 | Azar | I only listen to mod files |
| 01:44.23 | Azar | not online, the one I have stored on my files |
| 01:44.35 | Penix | too late. the RIAA's at your door |
| 01:44.46 | Azar | there should not be any connection from that application |
| 01:44.49 | Kurtism | wow problem solved |
| 01:44.58 | Kurtism | using the ati driver I can now switch to console |
| 01:45.09 | Kurtism | interestingly enough.... fglrxinfo now works too |
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| 01:45.19 | Penix | Azar: well, you said there's a 'strange process' running that you seem to think is creating this traffic. is that xmms or not? what makes you think xmms is doing it? |
| 01:45.28 | Kurtism | before fglrxinfo didn't work at all |
| 01:45.53 | Penix | Azar: and, again, if there's a plugin enabled that uses some sort of network connection, that'd be why |
| 01:46.23 | rgr | How can I solve this package error? "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/irmp3_0.5.7pre2-1.2_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" |
| 01:46.25 | Kurtism | abrotman: do you know if this ati xorg driver can be configured to work with mythtv? |
| 01:46.39 | abrotman | nope |
| 01:46.45 | Penix | Azar: plus, what is it trying to connect to? a remote address or a local one? |
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| 01:50.00 | Azar | looking at htop it gives : 4044 root 15 0 91464 22324 78212 1 0.7 7.2 1:37 .61 /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp |
| 01:50.15 | Azar | and this only when xmms is running |
| 01:50.31 | Penix | Azar: see that process? see how it's called X? |
| 01:50.46 | Azar | usually I don't mind X |
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| 01:50.56 | Penix | Azar: just think about it for a second |
| 01:51.02 | Azar | but this time the S is a 1 in red |
| 01:51.03 | Shadow_mil | lol |
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| 01:51.42 | Mega_byte | hi, does anyone know, please, what is the equivalent of PREROUTING from iptables, in ipfw (ipfirewall)? |
| 01:51.46 | Shadow_mil | Azar, X is bad, kill it then uninstall it! LONG LIVE BASH! |
| 01:51.57 | Azar | shush pu; |
| 01:52.01 | Azar | pop |
| 01:52.23 | Azar | Im not running musing from the net |
| 01:52.27 | Azar | musik |
| 01:52.35 | Azar | damn I m drunk |
| 01:52.51 | Penix | Azar: again, what makes you think xmms has anything to do with it? the fact that X is displayed in htop? |
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| 01:53.34 | Kurtism | I wonder if mythtv can be run from framebuffer console only |
| 01:53.44 | Penix | Kurtism: probably not easily |
| 01:53.57 | Penix | Qt still has directfb support IIRC |
| 01:54.01 | Azar | man, and xmms process is listed twice in root, twice on my user, I am seeing double on both |
| 01:54.28 | abrotman | Kurtism: there is a mythtv channel |
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| 01:55.04 | PhrkOnLsh | 03:52 ( Azar) damn I m drunk <----- hmmmm :D |
| 01:55.08 | Kurtism | ja ja thank you very much |
| 01:55.16 | \amethyst | Azar: that's possibly because of multithreading. Do the extra copies disappear when you press H ? |
| 01:55.18 | Azar | Penix, right I should not bother about excess traffic, just unplug the ethernet cable and is getting low back again |
| 01:55.48 | Penix | ffs. if you can't ask or answer a question properly, don't bother at all |
| 01:55.54 | Penix | wanders off |
| 01:56.02 | Azar | \amethyst: nope |
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| 01:58.35 | |[unix]| | me plays game 'who want to be a C compiler?' |
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| 02:00.18 | PhrkOnLsh | I do! |
| 02:05.39 | [unix] | PhrkOnLsh: hm, then try to rewrite some C code in assembly :( |
| 02:05.51 | PhrkOnLsh | Maybe later. kthx |
| 02:05.52 | [unix] | actually doing some webcam driver optimizations |
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| 02:07.18 | Azar | hey, the new DPL looks nice, is he? |
| 02:07.34 | PhrkOnLsh | is banging on xbindkeys and wondering why his mouse generates the same keycodes for two different buttons |
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| 02:09.55 | n3kl | Is there any technical difference between 'tar -czf bla.tar.gz /bla' and 'tar -czf bla.tar.gz -C / bla' ? Will the outcome be the same? md5sum on the files reports different, but I am thinking that might be some sort of metadata. |
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| 02:11.49 | Synclair | hello |
| 02:11.59 | apolloliftoff | I've got a new computer that uses a sata controller that's built into the mobo. The computer can boot up the debian net install cd, but when it starts trying to load device drivers it can't find the cdrom drive. Anyone know of a help page they can point me to? |
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| 02:12.48 | abrotman | !kmuto |
| 02:12.48 | dpkg | For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 02:13.30 | Synclair | hey I have a question that it's server related |
| 02:14.29 | PhrkOnLsh | http://pastebin.ca/991501 <-- does anyone know why on earth this would happen??? |
| 02:15.32 | n3kl | PhrkOnLsh: using the right module? |
| 02:15.42 | PhrkOnLsh | evdev |
| 02:15.47 | PhrkOnLsh | so, yes |
| 02:16.07 | n3kl | I here evdev is great, so.. I'm out |
| 02:16.27 | PhrkOnLsh | me |
| 02:16.28 | PhrkOnLsh | meh |
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| 02:29.25 | NekoKun | Is there a command line torrent client? |
| 02:30.17 | Superbartt | gtf |
| 02:30.24 | abrotman | NekoKun: rtorrent is one |
| 02:30.44 | [unix] | use google and 'apt-cache search' |
| 02:31.14 | [unix] | at least one is in debian repository |
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| 02:35.01 | Dewi | anyone know how to stop chkrootkit spewing out false positives every morning? |
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| 02:35.29 | Dewi | (reacting to java, ramfs, and an "LKM trojan"...) |
| 02:35.44 | Penix | apt-get remove chkrootkit |
| 02:36.16 | Dewi | grins. |
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| 02:36.22 | Dewi | Penix: yeah that's what I'm beginning to think |
| 02:36.30 | CalJohn | a lot of texlive packages just got pushed into testing. do I really need all of them, in all the different languages? |
| 02:36.51 | CalJohn | it's nearly a gigabyte of space... |
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| 02:37.23 | biopyte | hi folks, how can i configure the gnome desktop, so that bouncing against the borders with the cursor switches to the neighbouring part of the virtual desktop. do i have to install an extra package for this? |
| 02:37.41 | abrotman | biopyte: that's your window manager .. not gnome |
| 02:37.43 | Penix | I don't think metacity supports that... |
| 02:37.54 | abrotman | hugs sawfish |
| 02:38.11 | Penix | biopyte: google for 'metacity+edge resistance' |
| 02:38.25 | Dewi | Penix: oh dear. the bugs list and upload changelog do not look encouraging |
| 02:38.27 | biopyte | abrotman: what is the wm in a standard gnome install? |
| 02:38.35 | abrotman | biopyte: you're probably using metacity |
| 02:38.40 | Penix | Dewi: chkrootkit seems to be more trouble than its worth |
| 02:39.00 | Dewi | Penix: are there any security programs in debian that aren't? |
| 02:39.08 | biopyte | ok |
| 02:39.15 | biopyte | thx |
| 02:39.32 | Penix | Dewi: to do what? |
| 02:39.40 | Dewi | Penix: next on my list is logcheck, which picked up a whole new set of things to email me about thrice daily when I upgraded sarge -> etch |
| 02:39.42 | Penix | whine about legit stuff possibly being a problem? |
| 02:40.32 | Dewi | Penix: writing regexes I can't test is problematic there... I'm not sure what engine it's meant to be using |
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| 02:48.46 | civillian | just found a folder with 13 million files in it... |
| 02:48.59 | civillian | is there a limit?? I'm using XFS |
| 02:49.47 | pinto3 | df -i might tell you |
| 02:49.55 | WormFood | hard drive space is your limit many times ;) |
| 02:50.06 | ross` | can someone help me mount a usb harddrive |
| 02:50.29 | WormFood | 13 million files....sounds like my music collection/archive/library (if put into one directory) |
| 02:50.35 | abrotman | civillian: yes there is a limit but I can't recall what the XFS limit is |
| 02:51.18 | Azar | wtf is with this files on my root? "New Distributed Computing Project Will Try To Help Retrieve The Amulet Of Yendor" |
| 02:51.29 | pinto3 | getconf FILESIZEBITS /xfs/fs might tell you the maximum file size |
| 02:51.31 | Azar | ... someone must make some jokes on me |
| 02:51.55 | WormFood | ross`, plug in drive, then "dmesg|tail", get the drive device node name, and then "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/some_mount_point" (change sda1 to whatever dmesg tells you it is) |
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| 02:52.36 | ross` | ok.. |
| 02:52.39 | ross` | thats what im trying to do |
| 02:52.46 | ross` | i get a filesystem error but i dont know what filesystem it is |
| 02:52.47 | ross` | ... |
| 02:53.09 | WormFood | you may just need to mount /dev/sda (no partition) |
| 02:53.15 | civillian | WormFood: amavis virusmails :P |
| 02:53.19 | WormFood | do you know the filesystem type? |
| 02:53.29 | civillian | no-one has checked it in ages |
| 02:53.30 | Synclair | did you try using -t ext3? |
| 02:53.37 | ross` | WormFood: I JUST SAID: i dont know what it is |
| 02:53.39 | WormFood | civillian? |
| 02:53.47 | Synclair | I see.. |
| 02:53.57 | WormFood | then how do you do know it has a file system at all on it? |
| 02:53.58 | Synclair | what about using gparted to see the type? |
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| 02:54.11 | WormFood | the partition type does not mean shit to linux |
| 02:54.17 | WormFood | also, it may not even have a partition |
| 02:54.22 | Old_Fogie | Hello all. For debian lenny on an old laptop next to me here; It's very very old, lenny wants to insert the acpi thermals, it then skips as this laptop doesnt support acpi, it boots fine and runs fine. How to disable that. I have 'vga=normal napic nolapic nacpi apm=power-off' in my grub-line. Any ideas? |
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| 02:55.12 | ross` | WormFood: i dont know if it has one |
| 02:55.27 | ross` | but when i jsut do mount /dev/sda /var/www/files |
| 02:55.32 | WormFood | ross`, I can try to help more, but later, I have to finish getting ready for work. I'm sure someone else can give you a hand, but if not, give me a shout when I come back |
| 02:55.32 | Old_Fogie | I have to also add to /etc/rc.local /sbin/modprobe apm so that when I say 'halt' it really powers off. |
| 02:55.33 | ross` | it asks for a filesuste, tpe |
| 02:55.57 | Old_Fogie | I did a netintall cd installation of bare system only, not desktop. |
| 02:56.11 | WormFood | ross`, try "strings</dev/sda|less", and that MAY give you a clue |
| 02:56.37 | Kevin` | psst, sda is the drive, not the partition |
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| 02:56.58 | WormFood | Kevin`, I know....I already said IT MAY NOT HAVE A PARTITION |
| 02:57.17 | Anon65 | Windows is awesome. |
| 02:57.18 | Kevin` | it has one |
| 02:57.23 | WormFood | also, so what if it is the drive, and not the partition, it will still give him a better chance to ID it |
| 02:57.32 | ross` | Kevin`: talk to me in baadf00d |
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| 02:57.52 | WormFood | finishes getting ready for work |
| 02:57.58 | WormFood | maybe I can get to work before noon |
| 02:58.02 | Anon65 | You suckas better take note, Windows is the bomb yo. |
| 02:58.13 | WormFood | quit trolling Anon65 |
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| 02:58.44 | Anon65 | Zink can back me up. |
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| 02:59.19 | Penix | worst. troll. ever. |
| 03:00.01 | Anon65 | Whatever penis.. |
| 03:00.28 | Anon65 | Your screen name sucks. |
| 03:00.43 | Penix | ignore list gets bigger by the day |
| 03:01.03 | Penix | I swear, trolls these days... |
| 03:01.05 | Anon65 | That guy's a tool anyway. |
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| 03:02.28 | ross` | can someone help me mount something non ro |
| 03:02.32 | ross` | i need to mount my usb dive as rw |
| 03:02.36 | Penix | mount -o rw |
| 03:02.57 | Anon65 | That penis sure has a lot of Linux commands in it's head. |
| 03:03.28 | ross` | er wtf... it worked but then i do chmod 777 * and it says.. chmod: changing permissions of `Books': Read-only file system |
| 03:03.31 | ross` | etc etc |
| 03:03.34 | ross` | for everythign |
| 03:03.41 | ross` | its not rw... |
| 03:03.58 | ross` | ls |
| 03:04.01 | Penix | !enter |
| 03:04.01 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. |
| 03:04.13 | Anon65 | Yeah. |
| 03:04.20 | Anon65 | Moron... |
| 03:04.29 | Synclair | pls, ur gonna get kicked for flooding otherwise |
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| 03:05.28 | ross` | max:/var/www# mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /var/www/files/, max:/var/www# chmod 777 files/ |
| 03:05.31 | ross` | chmod: changing permissions of `files/': Read-only file system |
| 03:05.34 | ross` | WHAT THE F |
| 03:05.59 | ross` | someone help me please |
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| 03:06.50 | blass | ntfs? |
| 03:06.53 | Anon65 | You're beyond the level at which anyone here can help you. |
| 03:06.58 | Penix | or, more likey, fat |
| 03:07.03 | WormFood | ross`, "man mount" |
| 03:07.08 | Penix | likely even |
| 03:07.08 | ross` | WormFood: i did man it |
| 03:07.13 | ross` | i dont understand it |
| 03:07.20 | Penix | ross`: there's your problem |
| 03:07.25 | WormFood | read the part about setting the permissions |
| 03:07.31 | Anon65 | Or else. |
| 03:08.46 | ross` | rw Mount the file system read-write. |
| 03:09.06 | ross` | that is what i did.. max:/var/www# mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /var/www/files can someone explain that |
| 03:09.21 | ross` | why is it not becoming read write, and why is it staying read only |
| 03:09.30 | WormFood | ntfs? |
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| 03:10.08 | ross` | WormFood: your saying i should do mount -t ntfs -o rw /dev/sda1 /var/www/files |
| 03:10.21 | WormFood | no, I'm asking if it is an ntfs filesystem |
| 03:10.26 | ross` | i have no idea |
| 03:10.27 | wwasher | ross` : he's asking what fs |
| 03:10.29 | Anon65 | What an idiot. |
| 03:10.37 | WormFood | type "mount" and see |
| 03:10.40 | ross` | Anon65: some people arnt genious's |
| 03:11.04 | WormFood | ross`, ignore Anon65 |
| 03:11.21 | ross` | :p notice i made "genious's" posessive :p |
| 03:11.44 | ross` | /dev/sda1 on /var/www/files type ntfs (rw) |
| 03:11.49 | ross` | i got that line from mount |
| 03:11.54 | WormFood | I'm walking out the door in a few minutes, if you want my help, then hurry up and answer my questions |
| 03:12.05 | WormFood | you can't write to the drive |
| 03:12.14 | WormFood | is that what you are trying to do? write to the drive? |
| 03:12.23 | WormFood | or you trying to change permissions? |
| 03:12.29 | ross` | no, im trying to make it so i can view the files online >< |
| 03:12.41 | Anon65 | Impossible. |
| 03:12.57 | WormFood | then look in the mount man page about setting permissions with the -o option |
| 03:13.05 | ross` | WormFood: i DID look there |
| 03:13.07 | Anon65 | No way. |
| 03:13.09 | ross` | it said -o rw |
| 03:13.10 | Anon65 | Yeah wormfood. |
| 03:13.13 | Penix | ross`: no |
| 03:13.13 | WormFood | you can not write to the drive with that ntfs driver |
| 03:13.19 | Penix | ross`: it says a lot of other stuff too |
| 03:13.21 | WormFood | the -o rw does not help you here |
| 03:13.26 | blass | maybe you must to use umask |
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| 03:13.28 | Anon65 | Ross don't trust him. |
| 03:13.34 | WormFood | I'm talking about permissions, not r/w access |
| 03:13.35 | Anon65 | He's lying to you. |
| 03:13.39 | WormFood | yes blass |
| 03:13.44 | ross` | im so confused >< can someone just give me the damn mount command to type |
| 03:13.54 | ross` | itll save me time, you time, and everyone from hearing us talk nooby stuff |
| 03:14.01 | Azar | ross`: start reading from chapter 4.4 : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/user/ch-files.html#s-files-devices |
| 03:14.02 | Penix | ross`: you need to mount the fs so it can be written to by a certain user/group, and you'll also need a decent rw capable ntfs driver |
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| 03:14.13 | Anon65 | Liar, ross don't trust him. |
| 03:14.18 | wwasher | ross` : wormfood is telling you that there are no commands that will allow you to do as you ask (i do so think) |
| 03:14.22 | Kevin` | he doesnt need to write to it |
| 03:14.29 | Anon65 | Ross dude, don't trust these people. |
| 03:14.37 | Penix | ah, that's right. just wants read access, despite telling us otherwise |
| 03:14.43 | Kleidersack | Sorry, does anyone have an idea, how to run grub from (hd0,5) on an MBR-System? |
| 03:14.49 | WormFood | uid=value, gid=value and umask=value Set the file permission on the filesystem. The umask value is given in octal. By default, the files are owned by root and not readable by somebody else. |
| 03:14.53 | Penix | Kleidersack: what? |
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| 03:15.10 | ross` | Kevin`: WHY THE FUCK CANT YOU JUST FUCKING HELP ME INSTEAD OF MAAKING ME WASTE FUCKING MILLIONS OF CENTURYS TALING TO THESE PEOPEL WHO DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I WANT INSTEAD YOU COULD SAVE EVERYONE TIME BY FUCKING TELLING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!1 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 03:15.13 | wwasher | wormfood: pardon me. i err. |
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| 03:15.22 | Penix | ross`: please go away if you're going to act like that |
| 03:15.24 | Penix | !caps |
| 03:15.24 | dpkg | Do not type whole lines/nicks in caps. It's bloody annoying and will make people not want to answer you. |
| 03:15.31 | ross` | TALK IN #BAADF00D NOW! |
| 03:15.36 | Penix | !ops ross` is a moron |
| 03:15.36 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: penix complains about: ross` is a moron |
| 03:15.51 | Anon65 | Penis stop talking to Ross like that. |
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| 03:16.01 | Kevin` | ross`: -o umask=222, but you don't understand what that means so you'll be asking again later :( |
| 03:16.02 | Penix | how dare we suggest someone help themselves |
| 03:16.08 | Azar | ya and Anon65 is fueling the fire |
| 03:16.42 | Kleidersack | Penix: I'm trying to run grub from the bootsector of sda5 (I think it's called logical disk - partition in an extended partition). But when I make sda5 active I just recieve "No active partition" on next boot. |
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| 03:17.11 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: install grub to sda |
| 03:17.32 | Penix | Kleidersack: tried chainloading sda5 perhaps?... |
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| 03:18.17 | Kleidersack | Kevin: I don't want loosing the generic code in the MBR, because of manufacture tools using the active flag. |
| 03:18.42 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: back it up then. |
| 03:18.44 | Kleidersack | Penix: Sorry no grub / lilo @ mbr |
| 03:19.01 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: you can use ms-sys to install a generic/stupid mbr |
| 03:19.08 | Kevin` | just put the grub code in the mbr and be done |
| 03:19.43 | Kleidersack | Kevin: Before doing that, I'll chainload it from Windows. |
| 03:19.53 | Kleidersack | Kevin: it -> Grub |
| 03:20.01 | Kevin` | windows can't chainload |
| 03:20.16 | Kevin` | you would have to put a portion of the grub code in a file in the windows partition |
| 03:20.19 | Kevin` | it's a mess to do that |
| 03:20.33 | Kleidersack | Kevin: ok, i'll extract the first sector of sda5 and put it in a file on c and let it load by the loader.... |
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| 03:20.57 | Kevin` | why not just have the more powerful bootloader run first |
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| 03:22.00 | Kleidersack | Kevin: Because dell / lenovo / other manufacturews uses the "active flag" for there recovery / diagnostic tools. If I call the hotline they will tell me to run this f*** tools... |
| 03:22.34 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: how often do you call a support hotline and actually run tools from them? |
| 03:22.47 | Kevin` | the active flag can still be set, and is ignored by grub |
| 03:22.54 | Heston | hello, i've got a fat32 partition that I mounted with read and write access, however I can not change the permisions on the mount to allow non root users to access it |
| 03:23.07 | Penix | Heston: nice nick change |
| 03:23.27 | Heston | Penix, what? |
| 03:23.50 | Kevin` | I doubt that's ross |
| 03:24.06 | Kleidersack | Kevin`: i support several machines@university and have to call dell hotline once a half year. Defect RAM can destroy ext3 @ root-part... no root-part - no grub... |
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| 03:24.48 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: change it back to something they will understand with a boot disk first if you have to do that |
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| 03:25.01 | Kevin` | that's also one reason for having a seperate boot partition |
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| 03:26.03 | Heston | is there any reason why chmod would have no effect on a fat32 mount? |
| 03:26.17 | dondelelcaro | Heston: because fat32 has no concept of unix modes |
| 03:26.24 | Kevin` | fat32 doesn't support filesystem permissions |
| 03:26.30 | Kevin` | Heston: man mount, looking at umask |
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| 03:27.22 | Old_Fogie | haway! I got it, had to redo my initrd without acpi support, ++ |
| 03:29.15 | Kleidersack | Kevin: Placing grub into the bootsector of root (and setting the active flag) works fine for primary partitions... I just try to get this work with partitions inside an extended partition... If it doesn't work i'll have to go the longer ways... |
| 03:30.06 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: it won't work with the normal mbr code. I really think your making this harder then it has to be |
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| 03:30.52 | PiousMinion | module-assistant is asking for nvidia-kernel-source, but it doesn't seem to exist in lenny. Ideas? |
| 03:30.53 | Kevin` | what are your other 3 primary partitions and why are the primary instead of logical? |
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| 03:32.42 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: put /boot on a small (<100mb) primary partition and the rest as lvm on a logical partition (because lvm is awesome) |
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| 03:33.41 | Kleidersack | Kevin: Ok... and an extended part doesn't have an bootsector, does it? 1st - recovery, 2nd WinXP (100GB), 3rd reserved for Vista (8MB - The XP Part will get shrinked before installing Vista) and Where to place Linux? |
| 03:34.35 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: add a boot option to grub to chainload the recovery partition |
| 03:34.49 | Kevin` | and yes, an extended partition can have a bootsector |
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| 03:35.47 | Kleidersack | Kevin: the problem with chainloader begins when linux - part dies... Ok, I'l try grub-install /dev/sda4... |
| 03:36.09 | Kevin` | oh, that's what you mean. not sure if it'll work |
| 03:36.41 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: the chances of the linux part breaking are the same as any part of the filesystem or disk getting messed up, and easier to fix |
| 03:37.16 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: even more so if you make /boot seperate. then it won't get changed ever and won't get messed up |
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| 03:37.41 | nirupama | I have a class mate pc |
| 03:37.50 | nirupama | where I am trying to install debian |
| 03:38.02 | nirupama | but it hangs at the time of software installation |
| 03:38.15 | nirupama | how can I solve this |
| 03:38.44 | Kleidersack | Kevin: I'll to install GRUB to sda4... if it doen't work, I'll throw a coin - either GRUB from Windows or Windows from GRUB... |
| 03:39.17 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: grub from windows will get complicated once you install vista. |
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| 03:40.24 | Kleidersack | Kevin: Not really - there is a freeware tool for editing the boot-config of vista works fine with grub - it seems to make something like chainloading... |
| 03:42.01 | Kevin` | the extended boot record does indeed have space free for code |
| 03:42.54 | Kevin` | you'll confuse the windows/recovery tools more by making it primary then having different mbr code and leaving the primary partition as xp/vista |
| 03:43.26 | Kevin` | what happens with the xp/vista partition gets messed up, grub won't work :) |
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| 03:44.46 | Kleidersack | Kevin:oh... I see, I have tried it allready some days ago :-/ nothing happend :-) *lucky* |
| 03:45.26 | Kevin` | it's easy enough to change things back and un-confuse the tools in any case |
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| 03:46.53 | Kleidersack | Kevin: the anwser for my question was, that it doesn't work with the standard MBR-Code and no space for Boot-Code on extended-part... THX |
| 03:47.17 | Kevin` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_partition |
| 03:47.23 | Kevin` | it says here there's space for it |
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| 03:47.36 | _ZeuZ_ | Guys, does anybody know of a channel for Lintrack? |
| 03:47.40 | _ZeuZ_ | !lintrack |
| 03:47.50 | Kevin` | if you say it didn't work easily i'll just trust that though |
| 03:47.58 | Kevin` | since i've never tried |
| 03:50.13 | _ZeuZ_ | Guys, does anybody know of a channel for Lintrack? |
| 03:50.24 | Kleidersack | Kevin: It doen't work for me... But it might work somewhere else... I'll try it next time I have to reinstall a pc... I think the main problem might be the "active flag" - most tools don't set it for an extended partition... |
| 03:51.05 | WaffleMatt | _ZeuZ_, hint: I googled for "Lintrack irc" and read the results. |
| 03:51.22 | Kevin` | Kleidersack: now I want to try it in a vm :) |
| 03:51.37 | _ZeuZ_ | WaffleMatt: I can't even browse Lintrack.org |
| 03:51.45 | _ZeuZ_ | Perhaps DNS issue? could you confirm that? |
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| 03:52.25 | Kleidersack | Kevin`: good luck... :-)... I'll try it tomorow - it's almost 6 o'clock here and I have to get up in several hours... CU |
| 03:52.26 | PiousMinion | I'm torn between 2 worlds/join #ubuntu |
| 03:52.31 | PiousMinion | lol, oops |
| 03:53.21 | PiousMinion | Wow, that makes me look like an ubuntu fanboy. yuck |
| 03:54.02 | Kevin` | haha |
| 03:54.14 | simonrvn | fanboi |
| 03:54.15 | _ZeuZ_ | WaffleMatt: Confirmed, lintrack.org is down |
| 03:54.18 | simonrvn | ;p |
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| 04:03.38 | preds | I was planning on creating an fstab entry for /dev/shm so I can specify noexec, nosuid mount options for security reasons. Is there any reason why I wouldn't want to do this? |
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| 04:06.12 | cafuego | None I cn think of, offhands |
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| 04:07.01 | lkthomas | hey guys |
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| 04:07.22 | lkthomas | my phone provider data service only allows port 80 access |
| 04:07.33 | lkthomas | is it possible to tunnel all traffic to port 80 ? |
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| 04:24.51 | markybob | fucking crickets :P |
| 04:25.05 | simonrvn | *chirp* *chirp* |
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| 04:27.34 | lykaios | hi |
| 04:28.09 | lykaios | is possible to use mrtg to monitor all traffic on a interface |
| 04:28.39 | ale666 | i'm trying to send mail with my localhost but it always get blocked by a spam filter. Does anyone know why and what i can do to prevent it? Thank you so much. |
| 04:28.40 | dondelelcaro | lykaios: yes. |
| 04:29.04 | dondelelcaro | ale666: depends on the spam filters, but most obvious things are hosts not resolving, and you being on DSL or similar. |
| 04:29.59 | ale666 | well my server is not on a DSL. how to make host resolve? is there an article i can read? thank you. |
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| 04:31.20 | maxamillion | ale666: what MTA are you using? |
| 04:31.25 | ale666 | exim |
| 04:31.41 | lykaios | <dondelelcaro>: i want to use mrtg to show the interface traffic for an specific ip address |
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| 04:31.59 | ale666 | i really need to make sure emails do not end up in a spam filter. |
| 04:32.00 | lykaios | <dondelelcaro>: sorry for my english... |
| 04:32.02 | maxamillion | ale666: its possible that its a setting you need to set in exim then, i use sendmail and its a setting it the config file to tell sendmail to allow or deny unresolvable hosts |
| 04:32.33 | ale666 | do i have to setup reverse dns i guess? |
| 04:33.42 | lykaios | <dondelelcaro>: i have a debian machine as router and i need to show all traffic on my network using mrtg o another program... i need to show what are the clients with more traffic on my net (for example) |
| 04:33.58 | maxamillion | ale666: no, you shouldn't need to |
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| 04:36.19 | ale666 | maxamillion: it'd be nice if i can read something that would explain to me how to get my emais not blocked. |
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| 04:39.32 | maxamillion | ale666: if i knew more about exim i would be happy to help, but we run sendmail at work so that's what i have spent my time getting familiar with |
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| 04:41.54 | icenine | anyone know what debian package the glxinfo program is included in? |
| 04:42.04 | asperon | ale666: isn't there an #exim? id ask there |
| 04:42.17 | markybob | icekold mesa-utils i think |
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| 04:44.26 | icenine | markybob: thanks |
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| 04:44.38 | icenine | markybob: pesky video card. |
| 04:45.00 | markybob | i try not to mess with them. no need for composite or 3d here :P |
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| 04:45.20 | lykaios | <icenine>: u need the mesa-utils package |
| 04:45.32 | icenine | strace is my new bff |
| 04:45.38 | icenine | lykaios: thanks |
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| 04:46.31 | icenine | I installed debian from another linux install and I think I effed up a lot of perms while I was at it... A lot of programs give arcane descriptions of why they aren't working.. strace just tells me straight up though.. |
| 04:46.50 | icenine | I just discovered that glxgears works fine as root but not as a regular user.. time to strace ;) |
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| 04:48.30 | PhrkOnLsh | Is there any way to get xev to filter only certain events? |
| 04:49.02 | markybob | icenine your user is part of the video group? |
| 04:49.41 | icenine | markybob: my sound wasn't working.. and I discovered using strace to add myself to the audio group. |
| 04:49.49 | icenine | markybob: thanks for saving me 15 minutes |
| 04:49.58 | markybob | :) |
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| 04:50.57 | icenine | gotta login now |
| 04:51.41 | PhrkOnLsh | Is there any way to get xev to filter only certain events? |
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| 05:08.21 | linux_jones | so why are there two xorg's and two gdm's in top? |
| 05:10.30 | icenine | linux_jones: my system only started one process for X |
| 05:10.49 | PhrkOnLsh | ok, when I have a setting for my mute key (keycode 160) in my .xbindkeysrc, xev doesn't generate an event for it, but when it's not in my .xbidnkeysrc it generates a valid event? |
| 05:10.57 | icenine | linux_jones: I would guess, that you need one X process for gdm and one for X.. and that gdm uses two processes. |
| 05:11.06 | icenine | thats a guess |
| 05:11.36 | icenine | what's pidof X say? 1 or 2 processes? |
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| 05:13.50 | PhrkOnLsh | anyone know why xbindkeys sin't playing nice? |
| 05:14.43 | icenine | PhrkOnLsh: I don't mean to offer a solution, but I did read in setkeycodes (8) a day ago: The keycodes of X have nothing to do with those of Linux. Unusual keys can be made visible under Linux, but not under X. |
| 05:14.51 | icenine | I hope that's not the case |
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| 05:16.29 | PhrkOnLsh | but I just think it's strange that xbindkeys seems to grab the keycodes and just drop them (the lin I have in .xbindkeysrc doesn't get handled for example) |
| 05:17.04 | icenine | confusion |
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| 05:18.10 | icenine | I used to have some of my strange keys working under X with a special program that I added to my xinitrc |
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| 05:19.00 | PhrkOnLsh | icenine, if I handle the key in xbindkeys it drops it (just this one though) |
| 05:19.10 | PhrkOnLsh | xev doesn't get the event |
| 05:19.13 | icenine | just the mute key? |
| 05:19.17 | PhrkOnLsh | just the mute key |
| 05:19.24 | PhrkOnLsh | keycode 160 |
| 05:19.33 | icenine | but keycode 161 or 159 is ok? |
| 05:19.34 | markybob | PhrkOnLsh what happens if you reassign? |
| 05:19.47 | PhrkOnLsh | if I take it out of the rc and rerun xbindkeys it will generate the events |
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| 05:20.54 | markybob | so run xbindkeys from ~/.xsession instead |
| 05:20.58 | PhrkOnLsh | icenine: I don't think I havethose on my keyboard, but 176 (vol up) and 164 (vol down) work in my xbindkeysrc |
| 05:21.10 | PhrkOnLsh | markybob: what do you mean? |
| 05:21.22 | markybob | add it to ~/.xsession |
| 05:21.30 | markybob | it gets run when x starts |
| 05:21.31 | PhrkOnLsh | er 174 rather |
| 05:22.16 | PhrkOnLsh | markybob: will try I guess |
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| 05:24.49 | icenine | wtf! |
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| 05:25.05 | icenine | the python-opengl documentation is riddled with ^Ms |
| 05:25.33 | markybob | shit happens. file a bug report |
| 05:26.07 | icenine | I'm not actually that upset about it. |
| 05:26.36 | icenine | I took a 3-4 mo hiatus from linux. I'm just readjusting. |
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| 05:32.05 | PhrkOnLsh | markybob: .xsession broke my X :) |
| 05:32.15 | PhrkOnLsh | it kept it from starting for some reason |
| 05:32.18 | icenine | man, I swear I just felt a small earthquake. |
| 05:32.57 | markybob | icenine we had one two days ago. damn weird in IL |
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| 05:33.34 | icenine | I am sitting on a fault line in boston.. supposedly it will eventually rumble. |
| 05:34.00 | WormFood | icenine, hahaha...sucker! |
| 05:34.04 | icenine | gonna write down the time this happened and try to look it up later |
| 05:34.13 | PhrkOnLsh | why on earth is xbindkeys gonnling up the events??? |
| 05:35.11 | PhrkOnLsh | I get the events for 160 without xbinkeys or without 160 in my .xbindkeysrc so why is it gobbling them elsewise? |
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| 05:43.51 | PhrkOnLsh | xbindkeys -k > xev |
| 05:44.36 | PhrkOnLsh | hmm not even xbindkeys -k is generating a key for it |
| 05:44.39 | PhrkOnLsh | I'm filing a bug. |
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| 05:48.29 | gnaunited | Are you sure this isn't Ubuntu?!? |
| 05:49.25 | Shadow|anime | stares down gnaunited long and hard |
| 05:49.28 | Shadow|anime | What do you mean? |
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| 05:50.30 | gnaunited | Hmm, let me this of a question real fast... |
| 05:50.43 | Penix | gnaunited: if it's ubuntu related, ask #ubuntu |
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| 05:51.08 | gnaunited | No, I do have a Debian server sitting next to me. I must have at least one question. |
| 05:51.18 | Penix | then ask it |
| 05:51.29 | gnaunited | I can't remember now |
| 05:51.34 | gnaunited | Umm |
| 05:51.41 | markybob | dondelelcaro you guys should really give me op :P |
| 05:51.52 | Penix | -1 |
| 05:51.54 | Penix | ;) |
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| 05:54.11 | gnaunited | simple question, I have a dedicated server that panics when booting with acpi or apic on. When I disable either on boot then it works fine. |
| 05:54.27 | gnaunited | RUnning 2.6.18-6-amd64 |
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| 05:55.02 | markybob | gnaunited so what's the problem? boot with noapic or upgrade and see if 2.6.25 works with it with apic |
| 05:55.22 | PhrkOnLsh | .25 is out? |
| 05:55.26 | PhrkOnLsh | in lenny? |
| 05:55.51 | markybob | no. in the wonderful world of kernel.org. download and compile it |
| 05:56.05 | PhrkOnLsh | ah ha :) |
| 05:56.06 | gnaunited | I was hoping to keep using 2.6.18 because of the security updates |
| 05:56.16 | PhrkOnLsh | will wait until it's in apt :P |
| 05:57.06 | gnaunited | Anyone want to look at an lspci dump and see if there is anything that might be causing a problem? |
| 05:57.47 | markybob | gnaunited no. i'm on a laptop that doesnt work with 2.6.18. that's why i upgraded to 2.6.25. |
| 05:58.00 | markybob | either upgrade or deal |
| 05:58.57 | gnaunited | Am I going to lose some functionality if I use noapic? Using noacpi kills my hdd |
| 05:59.23 | markybob | your cpu usage will be a bit higher than if you had apic on, but besides that, not really |
| 05:59.48 | markybob | noacpi causes i/o to have more overhead |
| 06:00.03 | markybob | noapic* i meant |
| 06:00.23 | gnaunited | The dedicated server doesn't really do anything so no big deal I guess. |
| 06:01.07 | gnaunited | But back the server stting next to me |
| 06:01.36 | gnaunited | Umm |
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| 06:06.05 | stylesen | I have 3 ISP connections, I would like to do load balancing and failover of internet via these 3 ISPs for my private network, Is there any tutorials for the same to do in Debian lenny or etch? |
| 06:07.04 | markybob | stylesen http://lartc.org/ |
| 06:07.36 | stylesen | markybob: am referring this http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/nano.txt |
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| 06:10.23 | lykaios | hola |
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| 06:11.11 | gnaunited | Is it posible to set up Debin to boot into a simple command prompt like in Jurassic Park? I have a simple 90mhz laptop that I want to use for SSH access |
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| 06:11.47 | dimir | Morning! |
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| 06:12.52 | lykaios | i want to set up a debian router with mrtg monitor... i need to show all connections through this router |
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| 06:13.53 | lykaios | sorry but i'm new in Lunix... |
| 06:14.14 | PhrkOnLsh | gnaunited: apt-get install ssh? |
| 06:14.17 | preds | gnaunited: I haven't seen Jurassic Park this decade, but if you just want shell and a minimal install I suggest you download the netinst (180MB disk) and install that without adding any network mirrors |
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| 06:14.46 | gnaunited | The part I couldn't figure out is how to suppress the terminal output |
| 06:15.10 | gnaunited | Just root@box> |
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| 06:16.01 | Romina | hi |
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| 06:17.38 | civillian | gnakibded: as preds said, but I rekon use a mirror but only select 'standard system' from the tasksel menu |
| 06:17.42 | yang | How do I download files from a git depository? |
| 06:18.20 | lykaios | anyone |
| 06:18.28 | markybob | yang git clone git://address folder |
| 06:18.40 | yang | thanks |
| 06:18.59 | yang | however there is no command "git" I downloaded git package |
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| 06:20.06 | wesleysld | ey Rprp o/ |
| 06:20.14 | markybob | yang apt-get install git-core |
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| 06:20.47 | cjzjm100 | Hi guys!The latest debian has 3 dvd images,must i download all in order to install the debian? |
| 06:21.16 | markybob | cjzjm100 no. you just need the first one, unless you want some weird unpopular package |
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| 06:24.17 | cjzjm100 | markybob,so i just need to download the first dvd image'jigdo file,right? |
| 06:24.23 | Penix | cjzjm100: no |
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| 06:24.34 | Penix | cjzjm100: either the first CD image or the netinst CD image |
| 06:24.47 | Penix | cjzjm100: if you have a decent internet connection, use the netinst image |
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| 06:26.53 | markybob | cjzjm100 it depends on how many packages you want. dvd obviously has more than cd. the point being, you just need the first one, no matter what you choose. dvd or cd |
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| 06:28.54 | rrr | hi any one can point me on what should i type to get kernel-sources with apt-get install ???? |
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| 06:29.39 | Wyzard | rrr: linux-source-(version) |
| 06:29.50 | Wyzard | rrr: e.g. linux-source-2.6.18 or linux-source-2.6.24 |
| 06:30.00 | Lagbolt | rrr apt-cache search linux | grep source |
| 06:30.07 | markybob | apt-cache search kernel linux source |grep linux |grep source |
| 06:30.08 | markybob | :P |
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| 06:30.14 | Lagbolt | rrr need to learn how to do searchs |
| 06:30.35 | Wyzard | markybob: That brings things like virtualbox-ose-source too |
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| 06:30.52 | markybob | Wyzard hrm? not here |
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| 06:31.18 | markybob | (sid) |
| 06:31.36 | msan | Wyzard: not if you do the greps he has in his command line |
| 06:31.59 | rrr | ok thanks guys |
| 06:32.05 | Wyzard | oh, oops -- I meant to respond to Lagbolt's command, not markybob's |
| 06:32.13 | Wyzard | Ignore me :-) |
| 06:32.17 | markybob | :) |
| 06:32.29 | rrr | i did first option apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18 |
| 06:32.51 | msan | rrr: what version of Debian are you using ? |
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| 06:33.14 | Wyzard | rrr: If you're going to build a custom kernel, you should take a look at the "kernel-package" package |
| 06:34.05 | Lagbolt | Wyzard, yeah i wasnt doing all the work . . .was just making the point that learning to search for packages is something everyone should know |
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| 06:35.06 | rrr | im instaling asterisk and need the kernel-sources instaled in order to install zaptel lib |
| 06:35.22 | Lagbolt | rrr do you need sources? or headers? |
| 06:35.29 | rrr | sources |
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| 06:35.38 | cjzjm100 | if i just want the min debian,do i just need the first dvd image? |
| 06:35.42 | Lagbolt | if you are compiling against a packaged kern you just need the headers |
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| 06:35.51 | Lagbolt | cjzjm100, that is not min lol |
| 06:35.55 | mernil | hello debian! :-) |
| 06:35.56 | Lagbolt | get net install :) |
| 06:36.06 | djzn | hi, is it a 4GB partition really necessary for a system with 2GB RAM... I have read it RARELY gets written... if not written at all....... |
| 06:36.09 | Wyzard | rrr: Is your goal to build a third-party kernel module, or a whole new custom kernel? |
| 06:36.13 | Lagbolt | cjzjm100, and only install the base system |
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| 06:36.26 | mernil | i use slackware, but i like debian as well |
| 06:36.42 | rrr | thrid-party |
| 06:36.53 | Wyzard | rrr: then linux-source-2.6.18 is not what you want |
| 06:36.58 | Wyzard | rrr: You need a linux-headers package |
| 06:37.08 | rrr | wait |
| 06:37.24 | rrr | let me double check |
| 06:37.42 | mernil | rrr: check, check and then double check! |
| 06:37.45 | Lagbolt | lol |
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| 06:38.17 | rrr | im nor sure of that is just know that i need the kernel sources instaled in order to instal zaptel library that is used to run asterisk |
| 06:38.28 | cjzjm100 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:38.42 | Wyzard | rrr: which probably means it needs to compile a kernel module, a driver or something |
| 06:38.47 | Lagbolt | cjzjm100, sure you could but kind of a waste to download entire dvd |
| 06:38.49 | Lagbolt | but yes you can |
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| 06:39.06 | Wyzard | rrr: Run "uname -r"... does it say "2.6.18-6-686" ? |
| 06:39.08 | Lagbolt | when it asks what to install uncheck desktop and what not leaving only the minimal |
| 06:39.42 | rrr | yes |
| 06:39.52 | Wyzard | rrr: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6-686 |
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| 06:40.11 | Wyzard | rrr: That'll pull in linux-headers-2.6.18-6-686 as a dependency, and that's the one you actually need |
| 06:40.40 | Lagbolt | rrr do you have everything you need to compile? you might need "build-essential" too |
| 06:41.00 | rrr | ok, build-essential ?? |
| 06:41.19 | Wyzard | rrr: It's a metapackage that depends on the compiler and some other basic stuff |
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| 06:43.24 | Lagbolt | rrr yeah it brings in some stuff you may need to build with |
| 06:43.29 | rrr | now i most wait for make install |
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| 06:48.33 | Wyzard | rrr: There's a package called "zaptel-source" which looks like it's probably the same driver that you're currently building manually |
| 06:49.05 | Wyzard | rrr: It'd be much simpler and less error-prone to install the module-assistant package and run "module-assistant auto-install zaptel" |
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| 06:49.28 | Wyzard | rrr: which will build the driver in the zaptel-source package, make a .deb of the resulting module, and install the .deb |
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| 06:50.36 | sysadmin-lb22 | hey all svn seems to take a very looong time on etch |
| 06:50.59 | sysadmin-lb22 | I am trying to get a couple of svn sources on etch and it takes a long time..while on sarge it fetches the same sources right away |
| 06:51.29 | rrr | Wyzard: i need to get c++ |
| 06:51.49 | Wyzard | rrr: "get c++"? |
| 06:52.04 | Wyzard | rrr: If you need a C++ compiler, that's in the "g++" package |
| 06:52.22 | Wyzard | rrr: but like I said, don't build zaptel from source manually; use the packages |
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| 06:53.22 | rrr | i already build manualy cause the packages is not updated to the last version |
| 06:53.40 | rrr | now im building asterisk and need c++ |
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| 06:54.36 | rrr | im going to get it apt-get intall g++ |
| 06:54.59 | rrr | it works |
| 06:57.12 | rrr | great its working |
| 06:57.16 | idimmu | why not use a different distro? |
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| 06:57.52 | rrr | cause i want to make a demo and debian cd is the one that i have ahndly |
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| 06:57.55 | rrr | handly |
| 06:58.01 | rrr | let me relog |
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| 06:58.34 | rrr | any one tell me what command should i use to get proper identified every time i loging into the server |
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| 06:59.58 | Raiderman | rrr now name as Raiderman |
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| 07:06.31 | markybob | i find it strange that oftc' |
| 07:06.48 | markybob | has more idiots than freenode :P sorry to the double line |
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| 07:08.15 | MrMist | Hey |
| 07:08.43 | MrMist | I need boost 1.35 libraries... is there any binary release of these libs to debian ? How do I enable them in that case ? |
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| 07:08.57 | _subzero_ | Hello guys! Can you give me a piece of advice? I want to install a new version of SANE (1.0.19) from sources and I probably should uninstall the previous one (libsane 1.0.18-5), but if I uninstall libsane package in Synaptic, some packages that depend on it will also be removed. What should I do to keep the dependencies from breaking? |
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| 07:10.15 | Wyzard | !tell _subzero_ about equivs |
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| 07:13.20 | _subzero_ | Wyzard: thanks, I'll try it |
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| 07:20.29 | moun | good morning everybody. Does someone can tell me why the class SWFPrebuiltClip is not available in my etch libming0 installation? Thank you. |
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| 07:33.05 | gbp | hi all. i'm trying to upgrade my kernel and i think i'm almost done, except i'm not sure what i need to do in order for /boot/initrd.img-2.x.y-arch to be created. in the documentation i followed to this point, everything else seems ok except that. |
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| 07:33.45 | markybob | gbp you build the kernel with `make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers --rootcmd fakeroot` |
| 07:33.54 | markybob | that'll give you deb packages of your kernel and headers to install |
| 07:34.19 | keviN08 | hm, why i need the parameter --initrd? |
| 07:34.23 | keviN08 | *need i |
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| 07:34.30 | gbp | i wonder why the documentation never mentioned this at all :/ |
| 07:34.48 | gbp | initrd is fairly common isn't it? |
| 07:34.49 | markybob | because you werent reading debian documentation? |
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| 07:34.57 | markybob | for newbies, yes |
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| 07:35.53 | gbp | make-kpkg is running, going to read about it now..thanks markybob |
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| 07:39.14 | gbp | wow make-kpkg is really cool |
| 07:39.33 | gbp | how have i never used it, hiding under a rock my entire life i guess |
| 07:40.07 | markybob | shit happens |
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| 07:42.06 | gbp | markybob: say i didn't want to use make-kpkg, how would i go about creating initrd for the kernel i just compiled? |
| 07:42.42 | markybob | gdp no idea. i've used make-kpkg for 10 years :P i really dont know |
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| 07:42.52 | et | hi. i'm puzzled - the --exclude option to grep works on the command line, but when I put the same thing into $GREP_OPTIONS, it doesn't work (other options do work), what could cause that? |
| 07:42.54 | gbp | Hehe :) |
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| 07:44.48 | gbp | et: i assume you've checked that GREP_OPTIONS has what you want in it (i.e no problems with escape character etc) |
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| 07:49.49 | MrMist | Anyone awake at all? |
| 07:49.57 | MrMist | I need to use boost 1.35 in debian |
| 07:49.58 | MrMist | ... |
| 07:50.01 | gbp | markybob: successfully created new initrd with command `update-initramfs -k 2.6.25 -c -v` |
| 07:50.03 | et | if i echo it and put it into the commandline it works ... ah. that's the problem. it shouldn't work ;) i escaped two times, once with the "" around the options and once with '' around the one option ... thanks |
| 07:50.14 | gbp | et: np |
| 07:50.21 | gbp | MrMist: boost ? |
| 07:50.35 | markybob | gbp it's a c++ framework |
| 07:50.49 | gbp | *shudder* |
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| 07:51.08 | MrMist | gbp: It might as well be called THE pre-ISO C++ library |
| 07:51.10 | et | you could call it "the" framework ;) |
| 07:51.11 | MrMist | smart pointers etc |
| 07:51.16 | gbp | :) |
| 07:51.31 | MrMist | et: :) You've got it |
| 07:51.45 | gbp | i am happy to talk about STL :P |
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| 07:52.29 | MrMist | gbp: STL which isn't really called STL? like std::list std::vector etc ? |
| 07:52.36 | gbp | lol |
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| 07:55.08 | xoz | MrMist: libboost |
| 07:58.13 | MrMist | xoz: yeah... I know about libboost... but I only find 1.33 in the repositories' |
| 07:58.30 | jelly | !info libboost-dev sid |
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| 07:59.01 | jelly | dpkg, you're slow |
| 07:59.01 | dpkg | No, I'm not slow, I'm just overworked, underpaid, underappreciated and much maligned. Now STOP NAGGING ME!!!! |
| 07:59.11 | dpkg | libboost-dev: (Boost C++ Libraries development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.34.1-11 (sid), Packaged size: 1890 kB, Installed size: 28156 kB |
| 07:59.38 | markybob | i've honestly been trying to stay away from boost 1.35. breaks a few of my programs |
| 07:59.49 | MrMist | jelly: ehm... I need 1.35 |
| 07:59.51 | jelly | MrMist: seems like you'll have to build it yourself |
| 07:59.56 | MrMist | argh |
| 07:59.59 | MrMist | I'm trying to in ubuntu |
| 08:00.10 | MrMist | got lots of problems with it |
| 08:00.13 | jelly | note the channel topic ;-) |
| 08:00.15 | markybob | !based on |
| 08:00.15 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 08:00.27 | markybob | this is not #ubuntu. please go to #ubuntu |
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| 08:04.42 | MrMist | jelly: markybob: Let me explain. I'm using ubuntu as my desktop platform, however I'm moving my program to a debian system. So I'm using both. I was asking about Debian! |
| 08:05.56 | markybob | MrMist you need to be more specific. which error? what's not working? etc |
| 08:06.12 | moun | Nobody for my libming issue ? |
| 08:06.13 | jelly | MrMist: You could file a wishlist bug to include the latest, if there's no such bug at present. |
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| 08:07.30 | MrMist | Hmm... I don't know if there's a "bug" in boost. I was just asking if there might be a precompiled 1.35 version around. Which doesn't seem to be the case |
| 08:08.02 | markybob | no. if you want 1.35, you'll need to compile it. or file a report and wait |
| 08:08.11 | jelly | MrMist: you'd file a "bug" asking the maintainers to package it |
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| 08:08.56 | jelly | ... it's already there, btw |
| 08:09.09 | jelly | !dbugs 473752 |
| 08:09.13 | dpkg | #473752:W[boost] Boost 1.35 has been released; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:57:01 UTC |
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| 08:10.54 | MrMist | yay :D |
| 08:10.59 | MrMist | then I'm happy |
| 08:11.18 | MrMist | the thing is... boost 1.35 has a lib which isn't in the 1.34.1 version |
| 08:11.20 | MrMist | boost::asio |
| 08:11.39 | MrMist | platform-independent networking ;) |
| 08:13.27 | jelly | MrMist: if you read http://bugs.debian.org/473572, the maintainers seem to have an initial package in their svn |
| 08:14.15 | xoz | MrMist: etch packages are not the latest. |
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| 08:14.46 | jelly | er, http://bugs.debian.org/473752 |
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| 08:17.49 | jelly | MrMist: note that there's libasio-dev in testing and unstable, do you only need that library? |
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| 08:18.24 | lintor | hi all |
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| 08:22.32 | MrMist | jelly: Hmm... that might solve it for me, actually... |
| 08:22.41 | MrMist | I need to enable some dev repository i debian ? |
| 08:23.18 | jelly | MrMist: if you're on etch, you'll need to follow the procedure in /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 08:24.10 | jelly | ... "how to backport a package from debian unstable" |
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| 08:29.45 | gynterk | !missconf |
| 08:29.51 | gynterk | !confmiss |
| 08:29.51 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
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| 08:35.57 | Raiderman | how to reconfigure the network |
| 08:37.48 | Downer | Raiderman: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
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| 08:41.32 | mne | hi. I have a funny TV<->VGA converter cable so that I can use a regular VGA output with a TV set. However, xrandr tells me that the VGA port is "disconnected". Possibly because the converter cable does not "emulate" a real CRT. Is there a way I can force xorg/xrandr to enable the VGA output (although it thinks that no monitor is connected to it) ? |
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| 08:45.27 | alus | I have a user account on a debian box. there is a process I would like to start automatically, if the machine ever reboots. what should I do? |
| 08:45.29 | jelly | !tell Raiderman -about interfaces |
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| 08:46.23 | alus | is there a per-user init.d? |
| 08:46.37 | liable | nope |
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| 08:47.10 | alus | well. short of writing an ssh script to log in every few minutes and check or start the process... what are my options? |
| 08:47.23 | idimmu | cron? |
| 08:47.31 | alus | is there a per-user cron |
| 08:47.33 | alus | ? |
| 08:47.34 | idimmu | yes |
| 08:47.39 | alus | oh, ok. |
| 08:47.42 | idimmu | crontab -e |
| 08:48.08 | alus | and is there an easy way to say "start this if it isn't running"? I'm using screen |
| 08:48.28 | mquin | alus: you could create a crontab entry with the timespec @reboot |
| 08:48.34 | mquin | that'll run when cron starts |
| 08:48.57 | alus | oh, neat |
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| 08:50.02 | tengulre | I want touch timestamp of files in dir and subdir , how to do ? |
| 08:50.16 | Lagbolt | tengulre, recursive? |
| 08:50.30 | idimmu | find . -exec touch blah {} \; |
| 08:50.46 | mquin | tengulre: find dir -type f | xargs touch |
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| 08:53.32 | alus | well, I ran "crontab -e" and put "@reboot /home/me/thing.sh" in the file. "thing.sh" is executable. |
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| 08:53.46 | alus | I can't reboot the machine to test - does that sound right, though? |
| 08:53.55 | dhe-` | Hi my PC is very new one with SAS harddisks. The debian installer CD doesnt Recognize the harddisks. is there a way to build a debian installer cd with a own kernel? |
| 08:53.59 | tengulre | mquin: tks |
| 08:54.15 | mquin | alus: yep, that should work |
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| 08:54.21 | alus | great. thanks everyone. |
| 08:54.34 | petemc | dhe-`: tried the lenny installer? |
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| 08:54.47 | dhe-` | petemc: no it should be a stable system |
| 08:54.52 | mquin | alus: I'd advise aranging a time you can reboot it just to be sure though - better to find out on your own timetable than the next time the power fails |
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| 08:58.27 | kblin | hi folks |
| 08:59.19 | kblin | how would I best diagnose ipv6 routing trouble on my home network? the setup was working until yesterday night, but doesn't seem to be working today |
| 08:59.37 | nirupama | I have a classsmate pc whole hard disk size is 2 GB only |
| 08:59.56 | nirupama | when i load the debian os I get 0 free space available after installation |
| 09:00.04 | nirupama | how can i get space to work |
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| 09:00.24 | nirupama | i did not give swap space too |
| 09:00.33 | nirupama | as the hard disk size is too less |
| 09:00.40 | kblin | I can still ping through my ipv6 tunnel from the host running radvd, but none of the other machines seem to be able to get out |
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| 09:05.41 | gz2aa | anyone know which command to find out which package does a file belong to? |
| 09:05.53 | gz2aa | similar to "rpm -ql <file>" in redhat? |
| 09:06.04 | gz2aa | sorry I mean "rpm -qf" |
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| 09:10.38 | h0ax | i've just freshly installed Debian .. with Gnome desktop ... booted it up and as soon as the desktop half loads i get tones of errors any ideas ? |
| 09:11.50 | xoz | h0ax: try to be more specific. we cannot read your mind. what errors? |
| 09:11.58 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 09:11.58 | dpkg | <ananke> erps : here. let me rub my crystal ball. <erps> ananke, awesome, can I borrow that? :) <ananke> erps : nope. company policy, we can't give away our crystall balls. <erps> ahhh :( But I assume you let special people rub them for you? <ananke> erps : you're not that special |
| 09:12.13 | tarzeau | gz2aa: dpkg -S /path/to/file |
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| 09:13.54 | h0ax | ah sorry. well i get ... There was an error starting the gnome settings daemon ... error message : system exception: IDL:omg.org/COBRA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 |
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| 09:16.58 | xoz | h0ax: are you using sid? |
| 09:17.58 | gz2aa | tarzeai: thx |
| 09:18.19 | h0ax | I'm not sure ... it's the first time i've installed Debian |
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| 09:19.31 | xoz | h0ax: what's in the /etc/apt/sources.list? is it etch or sid? |
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| 09:19.54 | xoz | h0ax: /etc/debian_version |
| 09:20.38 | h0ax | pretty much everything on the desktop in failing |
| 09:21.11 | h0ax | it's etch ... as /proc/version tells me |
| 09:21.59 | xoz | h0ax: can you show /proc/version? |
| 09:22.08 | h0ax | i just did |
| 09:22.44 | h0ax | Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch1 |
| 09:24.09 | xoz | h0ax: apt-cache show policy... use patebin |
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| 09:24.32 | xoz | err, apt-cache policy |
| 09:26.01 | h0ax | unable to locate package policy |
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| 09:28.20 | jelly | "apt-cache policy packagename" |
| 09:28.26 | xoz | h0ax: apt-cache policy |
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| 09:29.04 | jelly | xoz: which package are you trying to get him to look up? |
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| 09:30.18 | xoz | jelly: just the policy of sources.list |
| 09:30.34 | jelly | ooh |
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| 09:31.22 | xoz | thinks h0ax is a hoax ;) |
| 09:31.37 | h0ax | well debian is installed on the other pc |
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| 09:32.19 | NateF | hay guys, i cant install Debian 4.0r3 |
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| 09:32.35 | NateF | i get the error of: Unable to Mount CD-ROM |
| 09:32.43 | h0ax | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63896/ |
| 09:32.57 | xoz | h0ax: try to purge all gnome packages... then reinstall them. |
| 09:33.26 | h0ax | how would i go about that please ? |
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| 09:35.17 | xoz | h0ax: try sudo aptitude purge libgnome2-0 |
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| 09:35.38 | NateF | i get the error of: "Unable to Mount CD-ROM" when detecting the CD in the begining, what can i do to fix this? |
| 09:35.48 | h0ax | xoz thanks |
| 09:36.53 | NateF | i get the error of: "Unable to Mount CD-ROM" when detecting the CD in the begining, what can i do to fix this? |
| 09:37.38 | h0ax | it's doing something |
| 09:37.50 | xoz | h0ax: and the aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment |
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| 09:38.24 | h0ax | will do =) |
| 09:38.46 | chris_abyi | hey. It seems as if my debian lenny system doesn't echoICMP-Echo-Requests.. how-to enable this feature? |
| 09:39.00 | xoz | h0ax: are you using mac hardware? |
| 09:39.23 | h0ax | possibily =P |
| 09:40.06 | xoz | h0ax: also, you can delete the cdrom source in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:40.29 | jelly | chris_abyi: it should, by default. Do you have a firewall set up? |
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| 09:47.33 | bloon1 | can anyone recomend a good book for learning linux? I've used linux a little bit befor, but nothing advanced.. and I wanna learn how things realy work.. all the basics :) |
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| 09:48.20 | h0ax | Any modern Debain ebook most probanly =) |
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| 09:49.11 | liable | !typosmite h0ax |
| 09:49.11 | dpkg | makes h0ax raed alll fo "Wra and Paece" in rnadm ordr. |
| 09:49.29 | h0ax | ? |
| 09:49.33 | h0ax | oh |
| 09:49.34 | h0ax | lol |
| 09:49.36 | tarzeau | bloon1: man man? |
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| 09:50.21 | Penix | bloon1: O'Reilly's sure to have something suitable |
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| 09:51.24 | bloon1 | k |
| 09:51.29 | bloon1 | I'll check it out |
| 09:51.31 | bloon1 | thanks :) |
| 09:51.37 | xoz | bloon1: what linux? shell programming? administration? network? you have to prioritize. |
| 09:51.51 | pif | hi, any openbox user here ? |
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| 09:52.04 | xoz | pif: ask |
| 09:52.33 | pif | I no longer have menus when cliking on the desktop |
| 09:52.35 | xoz | openbox in etch works well... not in sid |
| 09:52.43 | pif | ah, I'm in sid |
| 09:52.55 | xoz | pif: forget it |
| 09:53.18 | pif | not that I really need these menus, just wondering what the bug is |
| 09:53.34 | Penix | you use sid and haven't checked the bts? |
| 09:53.58 | pif | nothing there... |
| 09:54.56 | xoz | pif: try another window manager |
| 09:55.16 | pif | throwing the baby with the bathwater? |
| 09:55.48 | pif | what would you suggest as replacement? |
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| 09:57.04 | moshii | Can't find anything in the BTS,.. konq 3.5.9 randomly chooses not to load css files here :/ |
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| 09:58.22 | xoz | pif: apt-cache search window manager. just a suggestion if the bug is caused by the window manager |
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| 09:58.43 | xoz | pif: but sid is sid if you know what i mean. |
| 09:58.59 | pif | I love sid |
| 09:59.20 | Assassin5 | I've just seen the light. I've dumped ubuntu and come back to debian...... I feel much better now. |
| 09:59.21 | xoz | pif: it would be more logical to use etch and run sid inside openbox of etch |
| 09:59.51 | pif | *parse error* |
| 10:00.27 | idimmu | that is fantastic news Assassin5 i shall slaughter a fatted calf for the prodical son has returned |
| 10:00.36 | xoz | thinks openbox as a virtual OS... me wrong |
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| 10:00.44 | h0ax | LOL |
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| 10:00.46 | moshii | Assassin5: that's nice for you. You want a medal? |
| 10:01.05 | Penix | pif: find out which version of the package is screwed up and install an older one that you know works |
| 10:01.06 | xoz | pif: try fluxbox |
| 10:01.51 | Assassin5 | funny.... it's been a while thats all and I just remembered that everything works properly. |
| 10:02.13 | h0ax | xoz: aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment ... doesn't do anything |
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| 10:03.53 | xoz | h0ax: what about gnome-office? |
| 10:03.58 | pif | heard there's a free bj for switching back from ubuntu -> debian |
| 10:04.41 | h0ax | quickly installs ubuntu |
| 10:04.59 | xoz | h0ax: or aptitude install gnome |
| 10:04.59 | h0ax | xoz ... that's doing something =P |
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| 10:05.36 | h0ax | ergh ... could not resolve ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 10:05.43 | PythonNi1ja | my harddrive is buggered, and has remounted itself ro, how do i remount / rw without rebooting the system? |
| 10:05.47 | Penix | h0ax: what's "doesn't do anything" mean? drops you back at a shell prompt? |
| 10:05.59 | Penix | PythonNi1ja: mount -o rw |
| 10:05.59 | PythonNi1ja | umount / && mount /dev/hda2 / sounds like trouble.. |
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| 10:06.06 | PythonNi1ja | ah k, thanks peni |
| 10:06.08 | PythonNi1ja | x |
| 10:06.14 | pif | PythonNi1ja: mount -o remount,rw / |
| 10:06.19 | PythonNi1ja | ah |
| 10:06.24 | Penix | err, yeah ;) |
| 10:06.31 | PythonNi1ja | urgh |
| 10:06.35 | xoz | PythonNi1ja: mount -o remount,rw / |
| 10:06.40 | pif | dupe |
| 10:06.40 | PythonNi1ja | now it says it's rwrite protected... |
| 10:06.53 | PythonNi1ja | that disk is so knackered! |
| 10:07.03 | Penix | don't try to boot from it then |
| 10:07.11 | xoz | PythonNi1ja: init 1 first. then remount |
| 10:07.13 | Penix | start rescuing |
| 10:07.16 | pif | PythonNi1ja: there goes your pr0n collection... |
| 10:08.07 | PythonNi1ja | nah it's the media box... don't care about what's on that disk... all the movies/music are on a seperate one.. i just want to bloody watch a movie.. everything i need is in memory at the mo, except the alsa config :( |
| 10:08.20 | PythonNi1ja | init 1 would be a mistake, has no keyboard/mouse all ssh |
| 10:08.59 | Penix | why do you need rw access then? |
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| 10:09.04 | liable | eh |
| 10:09.05 | PythonNi1ja | to configure alsa |
| 10:09.25 | Penix | oh, just wanna use the broken system? |
| 10:09.30 | pif | shutdown, take disk out, put in other system, boot with live cd and repair/rescue/restore |
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| 10:13.03 | h0ax | xoz do i need to do anything else after the installation of the gnome desktop |
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| 10:15.59 | moshii | oo another SDFie |
| 10:16.32 | syntrx | small world :) |
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| 10:17.53 | h0ax | indeed it is ;) |
| 10:18.33 | Meaw | hey guys after i ran fsck, i got an error like /sbin/init: 432: cannot create /dev/null: directory nonexistent |
| 10:18.57 | Meaw | and /sbin/init :432 : cannot open /dev/console : no such file. |
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| 10:19.13 | Meaw | kernel panic: attempt to kill init. |
| 10:19.28 | Meaw | is it possible to fix it? |
| 10:20.07 | moshii | Meaw: what did fsck say,... maybe your /dev is munged |
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| 10:20.48 | Meaw | I ran fsck in recovery mode, but now im not able to get in console to see what is missing |
| 10:20.49 | Meaw | :/ |
| 10:21.09 | moshii | Meaw: I'd boot a d-i disc up and use the rescue mode |
| 10:22.19 | h0ax | how would i go about installing fluxbox ... apt-get install fluxbox ? |
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| 10:22.47 | Meaw | moshii, i've the installation cd, so should i boot from it? but i dont know what command to do to rescue mode. |
| 10:22.59 | moshii | h0ax: apt-cache search fluxbox first to get an idea of what packages you'll need |
| 10:23.34 | moshii | Meaw: type rescue at the intial prompt,.. it'll do the hardware detection stages then ask which fs you want to chroot into |
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| 10:28.29 | man_in_shack | waves |
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| 10:29.11 | man_in_shack | how do you reset persistant udev names? |
| 10:31.00 | liable | net? |
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| 10:31.44 | man_in_shack | actually, it's for my dvd burners |
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| 10:32.07 | liable | check the persistent_cd_rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 10:32.16 | liable | or something similar ;) |
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| 10:33.58 | crumblenaut | hi, is there a quick and sexy way to tell if a DSA needs to be applied to a system? |
| 10:34.18 | liable | yes, run upgrade |
| 10:34.41 | crumblenaut | nah i mean a scriptable way |
| 10:34.51 | crumblenaut | i.e. i get a list of DSA numbers from security.debian |
| 10:34.59 | crumblenaut | and i need to figure out with a script which ones need to be applied |
| 10:36.03 | h0ax | how can i make xfce4 my defualt session on boot ? |
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| 10:37.41 | ustunozgur | h0ax: you should select it under gdm |
| 10:37.56 | man_in_shack | liable, thanks for the tip |
| 10:37.57 | h0ax | i had problems with Gnome and have installed XFCE4 now ... but on boot i get a basic login screen .. and cannot select a session there |
| 10:37.58 | man_in_shack | all working now |
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| 10:38.52 | basanta | what package to install to bring debian menu? |
| 10:39.18 | man_in_shack | menu, menu-xdg |
| 10:39.21 | man_in_shack | probably one of them |
| 10:40.06 | h0ax | ustunozgur: apt-get install gdm ? |
| 10:40.33 | h0ax | my login screen is a grey basic one ... |
| 10:40.36 | ustunozgur | h0ax: it should be in the bottom left, maybe the screen resolution is not correct there, and you can't see it. |
| 10:40.39 | ustunozgur | hmm |
| 10:40.43 | ustunozgur | ok try installing gdm |
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| 10:41.12 | crumblenaut | where are the debian security advisories for testing? |
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| 10:41.26 | crumblenaut | /lenny |
| 10:43.21 | basanta | man_in_shack, I have both but not comming |
| 10:43.27 | h0ax | ustunozgur: gdm is the gnome desktop manager ... does it make a differnce from xdm ? |
| 10:43.37 | crumblenaut | all the DSA pages, http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1550 for example, only list fixes for stable/etch and unstable/sid... what about testing? |
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| 10:44.33 | PerfDave | Hey fluffle |
| 10:44.39 | fluffle | hai2u dave :) |
| 10:44.41 | ustunozgur | h0ax: it is gnome desktop manager but it allows login for other wm's too. I haven't used xdm, but i suppose it doesn't offer a gui for changing the default one |
| 10:45.04 | PerfDave | Yo other #debian homies |
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| 10:46.18 | ustunozgur | h0ax: also for xdm I guess it is dpkg-reconfigure xdm |
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| 10:46.55 | h0ax | MUHAHAHA |
| 10:46.57 | h0ax | fixed =D |
| 10:47.40 | h0ax | sexy |
| 10:47.46 | h0ax | debian system up and running on PPC |
| 10:47.47 | h0ax | =) |
| 10:48.42 | iguanna | ntfs-3g /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 --> ntfs-3g: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: version `FUSE_2.5' not found (required by ntfs-3g) |
| 10:49.15 | iguanna | what's the matter if it is installed ok by apt-get ? |
| 10:49.29 | iguanna | was installed i meant |
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| 10:50.19 | ustunozgur | h0ax: congrats. then I suggest the agualemon under window manager settings of xfce. it is mac like |
| 10:50.49 | Helljawz | I'm having som e problems with dhcpd |
| 10:51.16 | Helljawz | how can I change listening interface? |
| 10:51.27 | liable | dhcpd.conf? |
| 10:51.38 | h0ax | ustunozgur i hate mac OSX |
| 10:51.41 | h0ax | hence the nix ;) |
| 10:51.48 | Helljawz | liable no |
| 10:51.58 | Helljawz | It's doesn't ther |
| 10:52.34 | liable | Helljawz: i would be suprised if its not in that file. have yoy checked man dhcpd.conf? |
| 10:52.36 | Helljawz | http://dpaste.com/46075/ liable |
| 10:52.46 | Helljawz | yeah |
| 10:53.20 | Helljawz | liable It's listining the interface eth1 and sending to eth1 too |
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| 10:54.43 | liable | Helljawz: seeing as i dont have it installed, i can only guess. check .etc/defualt and also its docs in /usr/share/doc/ |
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| 10:57.20 | Helljawz | liable in /etc/default/dhcp, INTERFACE is as eth0 |
| 10:57.29 | Helljawz | but it's doesn't work |
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| 10:59.31 | petemc | Helljawz: works fine for me with dhcp3-server |
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| 10:59.41 | liable | Helljawz: you retstarted it? |
| 10:59.55 | Helljawz | liable yes... |
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| 11:00.09 | Helljawz | petemc I will try dhcp3 |
| 11:00.11 | Helljawz | thanks |
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| 11:00.48 | Deepa | How do I send a message to all users who are logged in? |
| 11:00.50 | Deepa | even to those on SSH |
| 11:00.56 | PerfDave | Deepa: wall? |
| 11:01.11 | Helljawz | Deepa |
| 11:01.22 | Helljawz | write ttyX user |
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| 11:01.58 | Deepa | ttyx? |
| 11:01.59 | mib_e93cidp1 | iguanna: are you sure? I use ntfs-3g in lenny,and I can't find libfuse.so.2 in /usr/lib. but ntfs-3g works fine for me! |
| 11:02.43 | Helljawz | Deepa yes.... type "w" in console... |
| 11:02.48 | sChaaa | hola |
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| 11:03.07 | Deepa | Except that users on SSH do not get a tty |
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| 11:04.31 | PerfDave | Deepa: I do |
| 11:04.37 | pflanze | Hello. I'm having networking problems, my ISP not handing out a dhcp lease, and suspect this could be because of ipv6 being enabled; how can I disable it (short of rebooting with a kernel w/o ipv6 support)? |
| 11:04.43 | Deepa | I don't, I get a pts |
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| 11:05.02 | PerfDave | Deepa: Well, wall works. |
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| 11:22.02 | Meaw | moshii, hi, in the cd bootup i got only F1 for help, Enter to boot: |
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| 11:22.10 | Meaw | where can i do the command rescue? |
| 11:22.58 | idimmu | Meaw: at that prompt |
| 11:23.37 | PerfDave | Meaw: Did you press F1 for help? |
| 11:23.56 | Meaw | PerfDave, yes |
| 11:24.04 | PerfDave | Meaw: Did you read it? |
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| 11:24.10 | Meaw | sure. |
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| 11:24.53 | liable | boot line, rescue |
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| 11:25.51 | Meaw | boot: linux rescue? |
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| 11:33.58 | Meaw | ok im in boot methods. |
| 11:34.08 | Meaw | there's expert26 |
| 11:34.10 | Meaw | and expert |
| 11:34.22 | Meaw | but theres nothing about rescue |
| 11:34.29 | liable | which installer are you using? sound like sarge |
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| 11:34.41 | Meaw | yes it is sarge |
| 11:34.55 | liable | then you will have to manually mount and chroot |
| 11:35.25 | Meaw | weird, not too expert to do that |
| 11:35.31 | liable | it uses devfs too, so that makes it more fun |
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| 11:35.58 | Meaw | do you know what is my problem? you can read above |
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| 11:36.18 | rgr | This morning I had to add a udev rule to get a /dev/dvd device link. Why is this? Why did Lenny not have it? It *did* have it in the past. |
| 11:36.39 | Meaw | something like kernel panic attempt to kill init. and /dev/console no such file. |
| 11:37.52 | liable | Meaw: get an etch netinst cd (approx 200MB) it has rescue mode. |
| 11:38.50 | Meaw | i just downloaded lenny, but im not able to burn it :( |
| 11:39.03 | Meaw | something is wrong with my dvd/cd |
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| 11:44.38 | wathek | hello all I've an RTL8185 wifi card and I'm using Debian Etch with kernel 2.6.18-6 and when I try to load the module to use with the wireless card I get this error FATAL: Error inserting r8180 (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/kernel/net/r8180.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 11:44.58 | wathek | and this is what dmesg says : |
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| 11:45.22 | wathek | http://paste.debian.net/1241/ |
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| 11:45.56 | gynterk | is there a way to specify port in slapd.conf? |
| 11:46.40 | zErOaCid | i have a webserver, when i try to download a certain file through the webserver it will gradually decrease to 3Kbps .. but my other box gives me 40Kbps with same file downloaded |
| 11:47.10 | liable | wathek: have you tried a reboot? did you build from source or install a binary module? |
| 11:47.48 | tarzeau | does anyone use http://members.verizon.net/~gerald.evenden/proj4/ ? |
| 11:48.10 | wathek | liable, I've tried once the rtl-wifi driver but when I try to configure my card the systeme freeze |
| 11:48.16 | wathek | liable, gonna try a reboot |
| 11:48.47 | liable | wathek: see what happens. |
| 11:48.53 | wathek | yep |
| 11:49.16 | PerfDave | Reboot? What are we, Windows users? :) |
| 11:49.48 | wathek | PerfDave, lol no but I've added some modules to the kernel |
| 11:50.05 | PerfDave | wathek: modprobe is your friend. |
| 11:50.34 | liable | PerfDave: removing the miriad of ieee modules is a pita even when you *do* know what your doing ;) |
| 11:50.40 | PerfDave | Anyway, I need to do work, not support Debian people. |
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| 11:51.23 | wathek | liable, I've rebooted and tried modprobe r8180 still getting the same error juste in dmesg I've less message than before |
| 11:51.28 | wathek | less lines |
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| 11:52.31 | liable | wathek: ok, then we probably need the make log. i would be guessing you are using the wrong version of the tarball for your kernel. |
| 11:53.01 | wathek | liable, you mean that I've to use the rtl-wifi driver ? |
| 11:53.01 | liable | wathek: make sure you follow the install file properly. |
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| 11:53.07 | liable | yep |
| 11:53.23 | wathek | liable, it seems that r8180 is a default module in the kernel |
| 11:53.49 | wathek | I think that it's not necessary to install it |
| 11:54.05 | liable | wathek: oh, and you had built another driver? |
| 11:54.06 | wathek | but is there any way to check the kernel installed files with apt ? |
| 11:54.14 | wathek | liable, yes |
| 11:54.43 | liable | wathek: see if the other module has a make uninstall, then reinstall your kernel (or dpkg-reconfigure it) |
| 11:54.52 | wathek | ok |
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| 11:58.05 | ReKlipz | what do i need to do to install ati drivers for my integrated graphics chip? |
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| 11:58.32 | [BT]JaC | hi i get this error |
| 11:58.34 | [BT]JaC | gaming:~# mysql -u root |
| 11:58.36 | [BT]JaC | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) |
| 11:58.38 | [BT]JaC | can you help? |
| 11:59.59 | iguanna | help, ntfs-3g /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 --> ntfs-3g: /usr/lib/libfuse.so.2: version `FUSE_2.5' not found (required by ntfs-3g) |
| 12:00.00 | iguanna | iguanna what's the matter if it is installed ok by apt-get ? |
| 12:00.00 | iguanna | iguanna was installed i meant |
| 12:00.57 | Penix | iguanna: what version of libfuse is installed? it's clearly checking for 'FUSE_2.5' |
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| 12:01.26 | zErOaCid | [BT]JaC: try to check if you mysql is running |
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| 12:02.00 | k-man__ | can i make nfs force the permissions of files created to something? |
| 12:02.01 | [BT]JaC | it is |
| 12:02.11 | [BT]JaC | zErOaCid its definately running |
| 12:02.20 | Penix | ReKlipz: /msg dpkg fglrx one liner |
| 12:02.42 | zErOaCid | [BT]JaC: you've just installed it ? |
| 12:02.43 | k-man__ | currently, when i make files on my nfs share, files are made with mode 644 but i want to have them created with 664 |
| 12:02.49 | [BT]JaC | zErOaCid yes |
| 12:03.10 | Penix | k-man__: umask? |
| 12:03.10 | ReKlipz | Penix: thanks much |
| 12:03.19 | zErOaCid | [BT]JaC: try restarting it |
| 12:03.43 | k-man__ | Penix, is that an nfs option? |
| 12:03.44 | themill | iguanna: libfuse2 > 2.5 (and ntfs-3g) are both on backports.org |
| 12:04.02 | k-man__ | Penix, can't see it in the exports man page |
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| 12:04.08 | [BT]JaC | zErOaCid still doesnt work |
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| 12:05.21 | Poisson_Pilote | Is the loss of stability huge between etch and lenny ? |
| 12:05.41 | Poisson_Pilote | I was using etch till now, but I'm getting a lot of compatibility problems so I reckon I'd better upgrade |
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| 12:05.49 | Penix | k-man__: it'd be up to the server to set the permissions etc. |
| 12:05.51 | zErOaCid | [BT]JaC: i have the same problem a while ago .. that's what i did .. |
| 12:05.55 | themill | [BT]JaC: the debian mysql server doesn't use /tmp/mysql.sock, it uses /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock. Have you fiddled with your config files? Or accidentally picked up an old ~/.my.cnf? |
| 12:06.06 | Penix | k-man__: the nfs server hosting the exported filesystem/dir |
| 12:06.21 | [BT]JaC | i dont think so? |
| 12:06.29 | [BT]JaC | how can i fix it themill |
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| 12:07.49 | Penix | k-man__: setting the appropriate user's umask or using ACLs are the only thing I can think of... |
| 12:08.40 | themill | [BT]JaC: try: mysql --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock -u root |
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| 12:08.49 | [BT]JaC | ok |
| 12:08.54 | [BT]JaC | worked |
| 12:08.56 | [BT]JaC | :D |
| 12:09.14 | zErOaCid | when i try to download a certain file to my webserver, it says it's completed, but when i tried to unzipped it .. it says it's corrupted. .. i know this file is ok because i have the file on my desktop. Download speed will gradually decrease from 40kbps - 3Kbps |
| 12:09.36 | themill | [BT]JaC: Excellent. So you have a config file somewhere with a bad value for "socket". Do you have a file .my.cnf in your home directory? |
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| 12:10.00 | iguanna | themill, i know that |
| 12:10.04 | ustunozgur | zErOaCid: try with wget |
| 12:10.13 | wathek | strange when I do iwlist scan I get this wlan1 Failed to read scan data : Operation not permitted |
| 12:10.20 | iguanna | themill, i installed it from there |
| 12:10.39 | [BT]JaC | themill no |
| 12:10.48 | liable | wathek: is it up? |
| 12:10.51 | Nyle | wathek, maybe you need to have more permissions... try as root/sudo |
| 12:10.55 | themill | iguanna: so what's the output of "apt-cache policy libfuse2"? (pastebin it) |
| 12:11.13 | wathek | liable, iwconfig it shows me the card |
| 12:11.18 | wathek | Nyle, I'm connected as root |
| 12:11.23 | iguanna | themill, and when i do apt-get install ntfs-3g, linux tell me ntfs-3g is already installed in its version newer. |
| 12:11.36 | liable | wathek: did you bring it up with ifconfig? |
| 12:11.55 | wathek | liable, euh |
| 12:12.01 | wathek | liable, no |
| 12:12.03 | Nyle | iwconfig |
| 12:12.05 | Nyle | not if |
| 12:12.08 | zErOaCid | ustunozgur: it's still the same .. it will give me less 3Kbps .. i let my friend download the file still the same .. |
| 12:12.10 | liable | no |
| 12:12.11 | themill | iguanna: Please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy libfuse2" |
| 12:12.13 | Nyle | its wireless extentions liable innit? |
| 12:12.14 | liable | ifconfig |
| 12:12.22 | wathek | yes |
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| 12:12.42 | liable | Nyle: the actuall interface isnt up, most cards wont scan untill its up. |
| 12:12.42 | zamolxes | what package would you use for implementing domain keys with postfix in debian? |
| 12:12.48 | wathek | arrrrg what I hat with the rtl wifi driver is that when I do ifconfig wlan1 up everything stop working |
| 12:12.53 | [BT]JaC | themill how can i fix it |
| 12:12.57 | Nyle | liable, obviously :) |
| 12:12.57 | wathek | and the system freezes :'( |
| 12:13.25 | zErOaCid | ustunozgur: i have a test box where my webserver is residing .. tried downloading it and it gives me 40kbps download rate .. which is my normal |
| 12:13.29 | Nyle | liable, but, what I am asking is... would you not use iwconfig? |
| 12:13.41 | liable | wathek: then you need to get the oops and send in a bug report, using netconsole can be good for that. |
| 12:13.50 | Nyle | you can manually set |
| 12:13.52 | Nyle | instead of scan |
| 12:13.53 | themill | [BT]JaC: can you pastebin the output of "grep -r socket ~/.my.cnf /etc/mysql/" for me? |
| 12:14.01 | liable | Nyle: not to bring the interface up, even wifi needs to be brought up with ifconfig. |
| 12:14.02 | Nyle | I dunno, you can scan if you'd like |
| 12:14.17 | Nyle | liable, but you had him bring it up already? |
| 12:14.19 | Nyle | or no? |
| 12:14.22 | liable | oh, you can set, but it wont do anything untill its up anyway. |
| 12:14.22 | iguanna | themill, http://pastebin.com/m6c0c2bcf |
| 12:14.29 | liable | nope |
| 12:14.31 | Nyle | liable, oh its not started |
| 12:14.32 | Nyle | ohhh |
| 12:14.33 | Nyle | nm |
| 12:14.46 | [BT]JaC | yes |
| 12:14.52 | Nyle | sorry I jumped in the middle of the support there |
| 12:14.54 | Nyle | my bad |
| 12:14.54 | themill | iguanna: wtf is sarge2linex1? |
| 12:15.12 | [BT]JaC | themill http://pastebin.com/m6c462a27 |
| 12:15.23 | themill | iguanna: is that your own backported package? |
| 12:15.29 | iguanna | themill, take it easy :) |
| 12:15.53 | liable | wathek: if you do all that stuff on vt1 (not x) you may be able to see some output of the oops |
| 12:16.07 | wathek | liable, gonna try that ;) |
| 12:16.15 | Nyle | or how about xsession errors file |
| 12:16.21 | iguanna | is only that my system is based on debian,i know about the problems of asking here, but i assume them |
| 12:16.52 | themill | [BT]JaC: when you get this socket error, are you running mysql as root? or as your normal user? |
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| 12:17.17 | iguanna | themill, answering your 2nd question: nop, the package comes from backport of debian url. |
| 12:17.35 | zyx386 | hi, how can i create fontpackage .deb? |
| 12:17.37 | liable | Nyle: sounds like an oops, wont be in any x log file |
| 12:18.03 | Nyle | I have no idea m;an |
| 12:18.06 | Nyle | I'm just fuckin |
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| 12:18.08 | Nyle | I need to shut up |
| 12:18.11 | liable | wathek: it may have logged to syslog |
| 12:18.14 | Nyle | and read the whole problem heh. |
| 12:18.18 | [BT]JaC | root themill |
| 12:18.24 | wathek | liable, I've installed an other driver it seems to be the rtl-wifi a patched version |
| 12:18.37 | zyx386 | can everone tell me about that? |
| 12:18.53 | wathek | liable, ifconfig wlan1 works no problem with that but what's strange now is that it doesn't detect my wireless network lol |
| 12:18.55 | Nyle | zyx386, you want to create a pckage with fonts? |
| 12:19.01 | wathek | wlan1 No scan results |
| 12:19.07 | liable | wathek: keep scanning. |
| 12:19.09 | themill | iguanna: There is absolutely nothing we can do here to help you with dependency problems of something that is not debian. "Based on debian" doesn't mean debian and definitely means that #debian cannot help you with dependency problems (because they are not our problems, they are your derived distro's problems). Also note that sarge no longer has security support. Feel free to come back when you're running etch (or lenny). |
| 12:19.16 | liable | wathek: is the ssid hidden? |
| 12:19.22 | wathek | liable, no |
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| 12:19.32 | zyx386 | Nyle, yes 32 fonts in .deb package |
| 12:19.49 | Nyle | zyx386, you can build a pcakge sure |
| 12:19.53 | Nyle | !nmg |
| 12:19.53 | dpkg | methinks nmg is Debian New Maintainers' Guide, Debian Policy Manual and Debian Developer's Reference are the documents you need to read, in that order, to make packages for the Debian project. http://www.debian.org/devel/, or ask me about <package basics>, <mentors> and <mg> |
| 12:20.00 | Nyle | !package basics |
| 12:20.01 | dpkg | well, package basics is The Basics of the Package Management System, Package format, and how to make packages. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html or see Debian New Maintainers' Guide at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 12:20.26 | zyx386 | i found this http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts/PackagingPolicy but that for one fonts |
| 12:20.26 | [BT]JaC | themill any ideas? |
| 12:20.29 | zyx386 | thanx |
| 12:20.40 | Nyle | the new maint guide has all you need |
| 12:20.40 | themill | [BT]JaC: hang on... can only type so fast! |
| 12:20.59 | zyx386 | thanx Nyle |
| 12:21.00 | Nyle | it requires a bit of reading though |
| 12:21.04 | Nyle | sure good luck |
| 12:21.22 | themill | [BT]JaC: well, I have no idea where mysql is picking up that dodgy socket location from. You could insert the following into your ~/.my.cnf and that would probably solve it though: http://pastebin.com/m7cf0446 |
| 12:21.24 | [BT]JaC | lol ok |
| 12:21.30 | Nyle | themill, tsk tsk.. I can type faster ;) |
| 12:21.31 | themill | [BT]JaC: ^^ that's inelegant but should work |
| 12:21.32 | liable | wathek: have you checked the linuxwireless.org site? it has compat tarballs for the latest versions of wifi drivers if your kernel is > .20 |
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| 12:21.48 | wathek | liable, gonna check there |
| 12:21.50 | themill | Nyle: I was also looking up mysql conf file syntax and creating a sample config file.... |
| 12:21.53 | [BT]JaC | so where is the .my.cnf |
| 12:21.53 | Arafangion | $ rm -rf deleteme/ |
| 12:21.53 | Arafangion | rm: cannot remove directory `deleteme//deleteme2': Input/output error |
| 12:22.01 | Nyle | themill, you're special :) |
| 12:22.03 | Nyle | hehe |
| 12:22.04 | iguanna | themill, ok i understand, i need to update to debian (lenny) but first i need to finish the ver. 1.0 of my app. |
| 12:22.05 | [BT]JaC | take the / off the end |
| 12:22.16 | [BT]JaC | Arafangion take the / off the end |
| 12:22.44 | Arafangion | [BT]JaC: Why should that pose a problem? |
| 12:22.47 | Nyle | I can only really multitask with instruments |
| 12:22.55 | [BT]JaC | it auto adds the / |
| 12:22.56 | iguanna | and asking here i always resolve the problems before than in my distro :) |
| 12:22.58 | themill | [BT]JaC: create the file in your home directory .my.cnf (so it will be /root/.my.cnf) |
| 12:23.06 | [BT]JaC | ok |
| 12:23.07 | zyx386 | Nyle, but the fonts are with GPL license , how can i publish it in debian package source |
| 12:23.22 | themill | !tell zyx386 about mentors |
| 12:23.44 | Nyle | zyx386, you want the package to be uploaded to debian main someday? |
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| 12:23.48 | Nyle | or is this for private use? |
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| 12:24.15 | [BT]JaC | themill now i get ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| 12:24.19 | Arafangion | [BT]JaC: Removing the '/' does not appear to make any difference. |
| 12:24.27 | Nyle | if private, fuck lisences... just use it.. if you want to publish it for the public in debian, then you need to comply with policy and you need a mentor |
| 12:24.30 | zyx386 | yes Nyle |
| 12:24.39 | [BT]JaC | Arafangion try using the full path EG /home/user/dirname |
| 12:24.42 | zyx386 | ok |
| 12:24.50 | themill | iguanna: yes, it frequently will, but when it comes to dependencies, that's a very distro-specific problem. |
| 12:25.06 | themill | [BT]JaC: well that's an improvement :) |
| 12:25.15 | Nyle | has anyone explained to him what based on debian means? |
| 12:25.16 | [BT]JaC | themill yeah |
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| 12:25.22 | Nyle | !based on debian |
| 12:25.22 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it unlikely lives up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 12:25.26 | [BT]JaC | themill phpmyadmin wont work either is says |
| 12:25.35 | [BT]JaC | themill #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured) |
| 12:26.01 | themill | [BT]JaC: what's the history of this box? is it a fresh etch installation? |
| 12:26.07 | [BT]JaC | yes |
| 12:26.10 | Arafangion | $ rm -rf -- /mnt/snuffleupagus/junkdir/deleteme |
| 12:26.10 | Arafangion | rm: cannot remove directory `/mnt/snuffleupagus/junkdir/deleteme/deleteme2': Input/output error |
| 12:26.38 | Nyle | junkie elephant on sesame street |
| 12:26.40 | themill | Arafangion: fat32 over usb? |
| 12:26.43 | Nyle | needlefreak |
| 12:26.44 | [BT]JaC | Arafangion are you sure its debian, not BSD? |
| 12:27.03 | XTZGZoReX | What's a simple way to prompt a user for input in a bash script, and then save it to a variable? |
| 12:27.25 | themill | XTZGZoReX: "read" -- at the bash prompt, type "help read" |
| 12:27.46 | Arafangion | [BT]JaC: I'm trying to troubleshoot a friend's machine, normally I'm quite good with Debian but this is stumping me. It turns out that this is a Samba system, and he's tried moving it, but it always "comes back", which is rather peculiar, but an important clue. |
| 12:27.53 | Arafangion | Or rather, this is a samba /client/. |
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| 12:28.08 | [BT]JaC | strange :/ |
| 12:28.10 | [BT]JaC | looks at themill |
| 12:28.18 | themill | who me? |
| 12:28.28 | [BT]JaC | yau |
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| 12:28.49 | [BT]JaC | 13:25
[BT]JaC: themill #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured) |
| 12:28.57 | Nyle | uhm |
| 12:28.58 | Nyle | guys |
| 12:29.03 | Nyle | my mouse/keyboard don't work |
| 12:29.05 | Arafangion | [BT]JaC: He's trying to delete it's parent now. |
| 12:29.05 | Nyle | wtf |
| 12:29.17 | Nyle | what the hell is this |
| 12:29.19 | themill | [BT]JaC: well, I'm thoroughly confused with your mysql problem... For some reason, mysql clients are trying the wrong socket. I can't tell you why... |
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| 12:29.56 | Nyle | oh |
| 12:30.06 | Nyle | wireless ps/2 reciever not plugged in |
| 12:30.07 | Nyle | oops |
| 12:30.29 | themill | [BT]JaC: I'd suggest asking over in #mysql, as it seems that the client is ignoring your config file(s). They might have an idea why. |
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| 12:32.02 | XTZGZoReX | themill: Does it have to load it into an array? |
| 12:32.10 | XTZGZoReX | themill: Can't it load a string into a var? |
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| 12:32.46 | themill | XTZGZoReX: it can just read a string into a var. Try it: read FOO ; echo $FOO |
| 12:33.06 | Nyle | arrays? |
| 12:33.12 | Nyle | who uses arrays anymore? |
| 12:33.12 | XTZGZoReX | themill: How do I make it say what it wants the user to input? With an echo just before it? |
| 12:33.12 | XTZGZoReX | =o |
| 12:33.19 | Nyle | get past the arrays |
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| 12:33.24 | Nyle | thats oldschool shit ;) |
| 12:33.28 | XTZGZoReX | Uh? |
| 12:33.32 | XTZGZoReX | arrays are dead useful, matey |
| 12:33.33 | XTZGZoReX | :) |
| 12:33.38 | Nyle | bah |
| 12:33.38 | XTZGZoReX | although, not for this |
| 12:33.43 | Nyle | there are much better ways to handle data |
| 12:33.46 | XTZGZoReX | PHP + arrays = instant win |
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| 12:34.03 | knoxy | I'm have installed a libxt6.. how I do to update the list of libraries? |
| 12:34.06 | themill | XTZGZoReX: you can do that, or read "help read" more carefully. Have a look at the bash advanced scripting guide etc. |
| 12:34.33 | XTZGZoReX | themill: K, I just found that help page a bit confusing. Thanks anyway :) |
| 12:35.05 | themill | XTZGZoReX: read -p "Please say something profound: " FOO ; echo $FOO |
| 12:35.42 | XTZGZoReX | ahh :) |
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| 12:36.10 | themill | !tell XTZGZoReX about bash faq |
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| 12:37.10 | _milligan | I've set up a debian box, with postfix, spamassassin and clamav. Virus scanning seems to be working nice and dandy. However, my anti-spam is struggeling. It seems that the X-HEADERs for spam aren't being added. Anyone got any experience with that ? |
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| 12:38.03 | Nyle | fine and dandy |
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| 12:38.48 | _milligan | With sa/amavis/postfix that is, not my poor grammar. |
| 12:39.16 | Nyle | not grammar, the expression you used, was incorrect. |
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| 12:39.29 | liable | dude |
| 12:39.48 | Nyle | and I can't help you, I don't setup antivirus servers |
| 12:39.55 | _milligan | antispam |
| 12:39.56 | Nyle | I rely on gmail for that |
| 12:40.06 | _milligan | as stated, my antivirus is working :) |
| 12:40.10 | Nyle | fantastic |
| 12:40.31 | nkuttler_ | _milligan: well, do your mail pass through spamassasin? you have to configure your mta |
| 12:40.33 | Nyle | antispam then, google is the best. I once setup avg server for a client |
| 12:40.35 | Nyle | but that was it |
| 12:41.15 | _milligan | nkuttler_, yes, I think so. The log has entries likes "passed as SPAMMY" and "passed as CLEAN" etc etc. Those are SA's doing, aren't they ? |
| 12:41.17 | Nyle | I can help you get spam, on the other hand. |
| 12:41.46 | jelly | Nyle: can you get me some spam in mxscan-too@iskon.hr? |
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| 12:42.22 | Nyle | i am moving |
| 12:42.25 | XTZGZoReX | Err. |
| 12:42.35 | Nyle | rahul is gonna help me move this weekend |
| 12:42.40 | Nyle | im gonna make him work |
| 12:42.47 | XTZGZoReX | if (bootmangos == "y") then <- isnt that supposed to be correct? |
| 12:42.51 | _milligan | nkuttler_, I think the problem might be that I haven't defined domains as local domains ... I need to fill the @local_domains_acl .. but that sucks, considering I have a virtual setup? |
| 12:42.54 | XTZGZoReX | where bootmangos is a variable |
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| 12:42.58 | themill | XTZGZoReX: in bash? no |
| 12:43.03 | Nyle | XTZGZoReX, what are you tring to do? |
| 12:43.07 | Nyle | bash scripting? |
| 12:43.10 | XTZGZoReX | Yeah. |
| 12:43.20 | XTZGZoReX | I might've misread the bash faq though |
| 12:43.21 | Nyle | have you looked at any bash scripting howtos? |
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| 12:43.25 | nkuttler_ | _milligan: not sure about the headers, what log are you reffering to? |
| 12:43.27 | Nyle | screw the faq |
| 12:43.31 | XTZGZoReX | =X |
| 12:43.34 | _milligan | if [var eq "r"] afair |
| 12:43.35 | Nyle | start with scripting howto and cripting tutorials |
| 12:43.39 | Nyle | with examples |
| 12:43.42 | _milligan | nkuttler_, /var/log/mail.log |
| 12:43.47 | Nyle | tons of good ones, and also look at bash scripts |
| 12:44.02 | XTZGZoReX | erm. |
| 12:44.03 | XTZGZoReX | =X |
| 12:44.07 | Nyle | best way to learn how to code, is to look at code (and then try to figure out what it means) while you go through the lessons |
| 12:44.10 | XTZGZoReX | guess he'll have to open firefox |
| 12:44.25 | nkuttler_ | _milligan: that should have lines like spamd: processing message etc |
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| 12:45.01 | _milligan | nkuttler_, it has lines saying that amavis is working the message, yes. (Amavis invokes SA, ClamAV etc) |
| 12:45.17 | guilladm | hi all, i am using debian wih eximon a server and I would like to the 'mail' commande line not to use the user root (root@mydomain.org) to send emails, where am I supposed to change that?? |
| 12:45.36 | nkuttler_ | _milligan: ah, no idea then |
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| 12:47.05 | _milligan | nkuttler_, modular configs seemed like a good idea. At the moment, I'm still liking gentoos config of the setup :P |
| 12:47.31 | _milligan | guilladm, log in as another user when you send the email. |
| 12:47.43 | guilladm | oh |
| 12:48.00 | _milligan | guilladm, su user | mail test@domain.tld hello. |
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| 12:49.16 | guilladm | thanks |
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| 12:49.27 | MrMist | Hey |
| 12:49.46 | MrMist | I want the openssh-server on my system, but I don't want it to start automatically when starting up |
| 12:49.53 | MrMist | any ideas how to accomplish this ? |
| 12:50.01 | Penix | MrMist: sysv-rc-conf or something similar |
| 12:50.38 | MrMist | Penix: Hmmm... can't find anything like that on my machine |
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| 12:50.53 | Penix | MrMist: update-rc.d also |
| 12:51.26 | Penix | !tell MrMist about update-rc.d |
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| 12:52.30 | _milligan | MrMist, /etc/rc2.d/ .. Is there a script in there that refferences your program?In the case of yes, you could move that script. |
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| 12:53.41 | cunzhang | is there anybody using hpc with mvapich and infiniband? |
| 12:54.01 | _milligan | nkuttler_, yep, I was right. Adding the domain to the _acl file did the trick. Pretty stupid solution, but it works. |
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| 12:54.19 | Penix | _milligan: no, you use update-rc.d instead, or a frontend like sysv-rc-conf |
| 12:54.29 | _milligan | Guess I have to write a script that does a mysql lookup for local domains. |
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| 12:56.14 | cunzhang | hpc configuration under debian is so hard :( |
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| 12:59.41 | themill | dpkg: be an hpc configuration barbie |
| 12:59.41 | dpkg | editing config files by hand is so HARD! |
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| 13:03.21 | Nyle | come on barbie, lets go party, ah ah ah yeaaah |
| 13:03.39 | Nyle | I'm a barbie girl |
| 13:03.41 | Nyle | in a debian world |
| 13:04.04 | themill | Doesn't scan. Bad luck. |
| 13:04.12 | _milligan | Hello Barbie, Hi Debian. Wanna go for a ride? Sure. Hop in! |
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| 13:05.06 | Nyle | can mplayer dump the the first 5 minutes of an mpeg video to mp3 audio? extract 5 minutes of audio from the video clip? |
| 13:05.15 | Nyle | mplayer CAN transcode to mp3? |
| 13:05.22 | Nyle | or one still needs lame or something? |
| 13:05.29 | Nyle | LAME* |
| 13:06.23 | Penix | I'd assume you'd use mencoder instead |
| 13:06.30 | Nyle | yup |
| 13:06.35 | Nyle | I've done transcoding before |
| 13:06.45 | Nyle | just not sure if what I asked specifically is supported |
| 13:07.04 | Penix | might be an audio/video output module that spits stuff out in to a file |
| 13:07.24 | zamuro | !barbie |
| 13:07.24 | dpkg | Reading the manual is HARD! Let's go shopping. |
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| 13:07.41 | zamuro | !barbie debian |
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| 13:08.46 | Nyle | Marcellus Wallace |
| 13:08.54 | Nyle | Zedd |
| 13:09.12 | Nyle | good god how/why did I just think of pulp fiction, thats was a disturbing scene |
| 13:09.18 | Nyle | shakes his head |
| 13:09.40 | XTZGZoReX | How can I set my own PID for a screen session? |
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| 13:09.48 | Penix | XTZGZoReX: what? |
| 13:09.51 | Nyle | you can do that? |
| 13:10.10 | udarnik | is this the right channel for questions about preseeding auto-installs? |
| 13:10.13 | XTZGZoReX | I dont know, but im sure i saw someone do it before |
| 13:10.15 | Penix | !ask |
| 13:10.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:10.16 | Nyle | udarnik, yes |
| 13:10.36 | stew | XTZGZoReX: you can't set the pid, but you can set the name (which you can use for things like -r and -x) using -S name |
| 13:10.40 | Penix | XTZGZoReX: what are you talking about? and why? pid's are random |
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| 13:11.02 | XTZGZoReX | err well |
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| 13:11.13 | XTZGZoReX | i want to make it so i know what my screen is named, so i can close it |
| 13:11.17 | udarnik | thanks; can I use preseed.cfg to pick my own local mirror (on etch) without replacing choose-mirror? |
| 13:11.18 | XTZGZoReX | from a script |
| 13:11.23 | Penix | it's called screen |
| 13:11.28 | zinx | Penix: no, pids are predictably assigned, but it is the OS that does the assignment |
| 13:11.39 | Penix | zinx: depends which OS |
| 13:11.55 | zinx | Penix: hi, welcome to #debian |
| 13:12.06 | Nyle | haha |
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| 13:12.08 | Nyle | :) |
| 13:12.14 | XTZGZoReX | lol zinx |
| 13:12.17 | XTZGZoReX | Well |
| 13:12.18 | Nyle | that |
| 13:12.20 | Nyle | was a burn. |
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| 13:12.33 | XTZGZoReX | Any way I can name my screen something specific and then terminate it later on with that name? |
| 13:12.38 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: you want -S, as someone mentioned |
| 13:12.38 | thrope | hi - does anyone know how to get sudo to use kerberos... ksu works fine, but I would like to be able to use sudo with my kerberos ticket |
| 13:12.49 | XTZGZoReX | zinx: Indeed, but what's the termination command? |
| 13:13.11 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: like, terminate completely, or just detach? |
| 13:13.14 | brubelsabs | hi, does someone know how to ping an arp address? (the device has no hostname nor IP address (yet)) |
| 13:13.18 | XTZGZoReX | zinx: completely |
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| 13:13.37 | Penix | brubelsabs: arping |
| 13:13.49 | brubelsabs | Penix: requires an hostname or IP address |
| 13:13.58 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: dunno that screen allows you to do that |
| 13:14.06 | XTZGZoReX | hmm |
| 13:14.07 | XTZGZoReX | how about |
| 13:14.15 | XTZGZoReX | send an "exit" cmd to the screen? |
| 13:14.20 | Nyle | brubelsabs, you want 'arp-scan' |
| 13:14.28 | Penix | brubelsabs: on the client side? |
| 13:14.34 | brubelsabs | Nyle: nope, this requires an IP or host too |
| 13:14.38 | Nyle | brubelsabs, wait... you want |
| 13:14.38 | Nyle | yeh |
| 13:14.40 | Nyle | i just read that |
| 13:15.34 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: you can use -X kill apparently |
| 13:15.42 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: or, better, -X quit |
| 13:15.51 | brubelsabs | to be more exactly: I want to ping a MAC address which having no IP nor hostname |
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| 13:16.03 | Petaris | Hello |
| 13:16.14 | XTZGZoReX | zinx: so screen -A -d -m -t -S some_screen some_screen; screen -X some_screen quit? |
| 13:16.40 | brubelsabs | Penix: yes, the client has to have an IP or hostname |
| 13:16.49 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: screen some_screen -X quit |
| 13:17.03 | XTZGZoReX | zinx: K, thanks, let's see if this wants to work :) |
| 13:17.07 | brubelsabs | Penix: but this device has nothing but an MAC yet. |
| 13:17.33 | Petaris | I am having an issue with apt. When I run apt-get update I get the following errors: Reading Package Lists... Error! |
| 13:17.33 | Petaris | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 13:17.33 | Petaris | E: Error occured while processing postfix (NewVersion1) |
| 13:17.33 | Petaris | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 13:17.33 | Petaris | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
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| 13:17.34 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: or screen -r some_screen -X quit, i guess |
| 13:17.55 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: you may need to detach first, as well.. depending on your setup |
| 13:18.11 | XTZGZoReX | well zinx |
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| 13:18.16 | XTZGZoReX | How can I make a screen |
| 13:18.19 | XTZGZoReX | that simply holds a bash session? |
| 13:18.33 | liable | !tell Petaris about mmap |
| 13:18.41 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: screen -S foo will create a screen named 'foo' with the default shell |
| 13:18.50 | dcnoye | is there a howto for setting up multiple subdomains for debian out there, or some that could tell me how to do so |
| 13:18.56 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: and attach it - you can create it detached, though |
| 13:19.02 | XTZGZoReX | zinx: screen -A -d -m -t -S some_screen some_screen too? |
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| 13:19.21 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: that will try to run some_screen |
| 13:19.28 | XTZGZoReX | Er |
| 13:19.31 | XTZGZoReX | but |
| 13:19.32 | XTZGZoReX | -t = title |
| 13:19.33 | XTZGZoReX | so |
| 13:19.35 | XTZGZoReX | yeah |
| 13:19.46 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: supply arguments directly after the option |
| 13:19.52 | XTZGZoReX | Ohh. |
| 13:20.04 | XTZGZoReX | So screen -A -d -m -t some_screen -S some_screen? |
| 13:20.18 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: assuming those are the correct options, sure (too lazy to look 'em up :P ) |
| 13:20.29 | XTZGZoReX | lol |
| 13:20.35 | XTZGZoReX | worked, it seems |
| 13:20.40 | XTZGZoReX | lets see if it wants to terminate ;) |
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| 13:21.07 | halflife08 | dcnoye: dns-howto ? |
| 13:21.28 | Petaris | liable: That didn't work |
| 13:21.37 | Petaris | I tried that before I came here |
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| 13:21.41 | XTZGZoReX | zinx: Yup, screen -r some_screen -X quit killed it :) |
| 13:22.18 | dcnoye | halflife08: looking for more of the apache side of the setup then bind, |
| 13:22.23 | liable | Petaris: did you increase it or decrease your sources.list repos? how many you got in there? |
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| 13:23.34 | Petaris | liable: I wasn't sure how to increase it, I only have five sources in sources.list |
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| 13:24.10 | XTZGZoReX | zinx: How can I determine if a screen with name "some_screen" is open? :) |
| 13:24.48 | zinx | XTZGZoReX: with -list, but you can use some -d -r some_screen -X quit to always kill it, if that's what you want |
| 13:24.51 | Petaris | liable: I put that in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00Cache |
| 13:25.03 | Petaris | What is that size? |
| 13:25.06 | Petaris | bytes/ |
| 13:25.08 | Petaris | ? |
| 13:25.17 | XTZGZoReX | zinx: just wanted to return something that I could evaluate to find out if the screen is open :o |
| 13:25.28 | liable | Petaris: change the first digit to 2 i spose. I havent personally run into the problem, but i guess its talking bytes |
| 13:26.16 | Petaris | liable: that did it |
| 13:26.19 | Petaris | Thanks |
| 13:26.20 | Petaris | :) |
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| 13:26.31 | liable | its an odd number the factoid uses.. |
| 13:26.45 | liable | wonder where the author pulled that from. |
| 13:26.55 | halflife08 | dcnoye: you are looking for help on virtual hosting of domains ? |
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| 13:27.09 | Petaris | ok, I just didn't want to change it since I didn't know what it was using, bits, bytes, or kb |
| 13:28.11 | liable | ya, if it was a round number it would prolly be less confusing. |
| 13:28.26 | dcnoye | halflife08: not really, just subdomains for an existing domain, |
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| 13:28.57 | Petaris | Anyway, thanks again liable! :) |
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| 13:29.15 | Petaris | oh, and sorry about the flood before |
| 13:29.19 | Petaris | :( |
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| 13:30.52 | helo_ | flash exploit? |
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| 13:33.15 | jelly | flash? AAaaaargh! |
| 13:35.01 | idimmu | XTZGZoReX: ps aux | grep <name of screen> |
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| 13:35.45 | justin | screen -ls doesn't work? :-P |
| 13:35.56 | XTZGZoReX | idimmu: can i use that in a script? |
| 13:36.13 | idimmu | yes you can use it in a script |
| 13:36.22 | Nyle | flash |
| 13:36.24 | Nyle | exploit? |
| 13:36.35 | Nyle | you're kidding right? |
| 13:36.38 | idimmu | flash |
| 13:36.40 | Nyle | </sarcasm> |
| 13:36.41 | idimmu | woohoo? |
| 13:36.50 | idimmu | saviour of the universe! |
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| 13:37.42 | XTZGZoReX | idimmu: well, i mean, to save it to a var whether the screen is open or not(true/false) |
| 13:38.01 | idimmu | VAR=`ps aux | grep <screen name>` |
| 13:38.02 | idimmu | go learn bash |
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| 13:38.41 | XTZGZoReX | lol |
| 13:41.41 | Bushmills | i think $( ... ) is preferred over `...` |
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| 13:43.37 | knoxy | I'm have installed a libxt6.. how I do to update the list of libraries? running ldconfig? |
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| 13:44.04 | idimmu | $() lets you do lots of funky string stuff but i think you lose that when executing system shizzle |
| 13:45.00 | Bushmills | possibly you mean ${ } rather than $( ) ? |
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| 13:45.33 | Bushmills | $( ) is substituted against output of executed command which it brackets, like ` ` |
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| 13:48.54 | idimmu | ah yeah my bad |
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| 13:50.56 | _milligan | My smtp server requires authentication to relay email (smtp). however, if I telnet in, and try to relay to a local receipient, it lets me.. In theory that means a spammer could bomb my server by sending to a local account... how can I prevent this? My config says that it requires auth for smtp |
| 13:51.47 | Bushmills | _milligan: "sending to" is not same as "sending from" |
| 13:52.07 | twobitsp1ite | hmm... is anyone else having problems with net-snmp or libsnmp-base? I see a bug has been filed against it, but its marked as fixed and I'm still having problems... |
| 13:52.27 | _milligan | Did my poor formulation make you not understand my problem? |
| 13:52.29 | Bushmills | _milligan: i work around smtp auth config by connecting over vpn to mail server, having set the vpn address range to "ournet" |
| 13:53.09 | Bushmills | _milligan: probably, you sound like because you can send from local, anybody sending mail to local account can |
| 13:53.25 | Bushmills | at least that is what i understand was worrying you from what you asked |
| 13:53.59 | _milligan | Bushmills, I think you might have understood. If I telnet from a remote machine, do an ehlo domain.tld, mail from: <random@domain2.tld> rcpt to: <localaccount@domain.tld> .. it will accept the relay. |
| 13:54.07 | knoxy | Hi all.. I've installed new libraries on my debian box using aptitude. I'm trying to install vmware, but the new libraries not found to vmware. How can I do to update the list of libs to vmware works? |
| 13:54.34 | twobitsp1ite | knoxy: what is your error? |
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| 13:55.07 | Bushmills | _milligan: ah. you telnet to port 25. that wasn't clear. i thought you telnet over port 23, and then send mail from local. |
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| 13:55.21 | _milligan | My bad :) |
| 13:55.21 | rysiek | hi guys |
| 13:55.42 | knoxy | twobitsp1ite libX11.so.6 => not found.. but this lib is installed! |
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| 13:56.04 | rysiek | what is The Good Way of removing unnused packages (i.e. I have a lot of different packages installed, but I onlu use/need a few of them) |
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| 13:56.13 | Bushmills | _milligan: ok. relaying != accepting mail for local recipient |
| 13:56.14 | _milligan | nvm Bushmills .. I was thinking wrongly. |
| 13:56.20 | rysiek | done deborphaning already ;) |
| 13:56.29 | Bushmills | try to send to external address |
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| 13:56.59 | knoxy | twobitsp1ite master:/etc/ld.so.conf.d# find / -name libX11*: /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 |
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| 13:57.05 | knoxy | right? |
| 13:57.23 | twobitsp1ite | knoxy: your username is master? :P |
| 13:58.02 | twobitsp1ite | so... is vmware complaining during install, or is it already installed? |
| 13:58.22 | knoxy | twobitsp1ite my hostname is master.. |
| 13:58.25 | XTZGZoReX | phpBB tells me my config.php is unwritable - what permissions should I set on it? |
| 13:58.30 | XTZGZoReX | And what'd the chmod command look like? |
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| 13:59.19 | twobitsp1ite | XTZGZoReX: it should be either user or group writable by the user which is running phpBB, usually it's 'apache' or 'httpd' |
| 13:59.21 | Bushmills | XTZGZoReX: last time i looked, it looked like an elf executable with lots of opcodes in it, |
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| 13:59.27 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: check under what user your weberver is running |
| 13:59.42 | XTZGZoReX | apache, afaik. |
| 13:59.46 | _milligan | Bushmills, yeah, I was totally thinking wrong :P Ofc the server accepts email it's ment to deliver locally :P |
| 13:59.59 | rysiek | Bushmills: there are some strings there, too |
| 13:59.59 | knoxy | twobitsp1ite during install... |
| 14:00.01 | twobitsp1ite | then there you go... make it writable by apache |
| 14:00.16 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: well, you have answared yourself |
| 14:00.17 | Bushmills | rysiek: yes, and number of other literals |
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| 14:00.27 | XTZGZoReX | So. |
| 14:00.31 | XTZGZoReX | chown -R apache config.php? |
| 14:00.38 | twobitsp1ite | knoxy: you could try putting /usr/lib in LD_LIBRARYPATH (is that right?) |
| 14:00.44 | rysiek | Bushmills: and numers! will someone *please* think of the numbers! |
| 14:00.44 | twobitsp1ite | XTZGZoReX: -W |
| 14:00.47 | roe_ | as much as I like debian, I wish there wasn't a falling out between them and mozilla over the art work |
| 14:01.04 | XTZGZoReX | Invalid option -- W |
| 14:01.06 | knoxy | twobitsp1ite where? in /etc/ld.so.conf ? |
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| 14:01.09 | rysiek | -_-' |
| 14:01.17 | twobitsp1ite | Xteven: er.... man chmod |
| 14:01.18 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: man chown |
| 14:01.23 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: man chmod |
| 14:01.29 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: it's all there :) |
| 14:01.36 | XTZGZoReX | gee |
| 14:01.42 | XTZGZoReX | that really helps when im in a hurry :< |
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| 14:01.52 | pmjdebruijn | hi |
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| 14:02.04 | pmjdebruijn | I'm building image in a chroot |
| 14:02.06 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: chown apache /path/to/config.php; chmod u+w /path/to/config.php |
| 14:02.21 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: there. but you won't learn *anything* from that |
| 14:02.28 | XTZGZoReX | I know |
| 14:02.30 | XTZGZoReX | I'll read up later. |
| 14:02.32 | pmjdebruijn | DebConf still asks me questions about certain packages... Is it possible to preseed the DebConf answers? |
| 14:02.38 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: hope you do |
| 14:02.43 | XTZGZoReX | Although, apparently "apache" isn't the user. So how'd I find out? |
| 14:02.49 | twobitsp1ite | famous last words: I'll read the manual later |
| 14:02.59 | XTZGZoReX | Erm. |
| 14:03.02 | XTZGZoReX | I was serious in that. |
| 14:03.03 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: ps aux | grep apache2 |
| 14:03.06 | XTZGZoReX | T_T |
| 14:03.23 | XTZGZoReX | lolwut |
| 14:03.24 | XTZGZoReX | www-data |
| 14:03.24 | XTZGZoReX | >_> |
| 14:03.25 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: see? now you hurt his feelings. you happy now? |
| 14:03.43 | XTZGZoReX | K that made it |
| 14:03.43 | XTZGZoReX | lol |
| 14:03.45 | twobitsp1ite | knoxy: anywhere... it just needs to be set and exported in the environment in which the installer is being run |
| 14:03.45 | XTZGZoReX | Thanks guys. |
| 14:03.53 | rysiek | no prob |
| 14:04.05 | rysiek | hopes someone will help him, too ;) |
| 14:04.13 | XTZGZoReX | oh, whats it? |
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| 14:04.36 | rysiek | removing unnused packages - The Good Way |
| 14:04.44 | XTZGZoReX | apt-get clean? =o |
| 14:04.51 | XTZGZoReX | or thats not the good way? =P |
| 14:05.00 | rysiek | nay, that will only remove unnused downloaded package files |
| 14:05.04 | gangsterlicious | anyone got autofs to work? |
| 14:05.19 | XTZGZoReX | Oh I see. |
| 14:05.19 | knoxy | twobitsp1ite ? |
| 14:05.21 | XTZGZoReX | Ugh. |
| 14:05.22 | rysiek | XTZGZoReX: I need a Good Way of removing *installed* packages |
| 14:05.26 | XTZGZoReX | Then I'm not really sure. |
| 14:05.33 | XTZGZoReX | Hmm. |
| 14:05.56 | twobitsp1ite | knoxy: export LD_LIBRARYPATH="$LD_LIBRARYPATH:/usr/lib"; vmware-installer-cmd |
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| 14:06.17 | XTZGZoReX | I don't know then. =X Sorry. |
| 14:06.23 | twobitsp1ite | rysiek: besides aptitude remove --purge PKG ? |
| 14:06.31 | rysiek | it's more like "run aptitude, mark all packages as *something*, then do *something_other*, and then browse through the packages and mark all that you actually need, as *something*" |
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| 14:07.05 | rysiek | "...and then, you jyst hit *something*" and go get yourself a nice cup'o'tea" |
| 14:07.15 | Bushmills | !tell gangsterliciousabout ask |
| 14:07.19 | XTZGZoReX | =X |
| 14:07.31 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: ^^^^^^^^^^^ plus I need the *soething*s ;) |
| 14:07.31 | Bushmills | oops |
| 14:07.37 | twobitsp1ite | rysiek: I believe the tui interface will let you mark whole trees of packages as something... but I haven't used it in a long time... |
| 14:07.43 | Bushmills | !tell gangsterlicious about ask |
| 14:08.17 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: ah, so it's actualy 'something'? ;) |
| 14:08.45 | twobitsp1ite | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:08.57 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: precisely |
| 14:09.00 | twobitsp1ite | remove? |
| 14:09.11 | rysiek | won't it remove them right away? |
| 14:09.23 | gangsterlicious | so like i followed this guide (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127) and i don't see any mountpoints. |
| 14:09.31 | twobitsp1ite | i.e., mark them all remove, then mark the ones you need/want as install/keep/whatever |
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| 14:09.51 | twobitsp1ite | rysiek: it shouldn't do anything until you tell it to 'go' |
| 14:10.05 | Bushmills | gangsterlicious: "won't see"? |
| 14:10.13 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: oh, right. that makes sense |
| 14:10.18 | Bushmills | it "synthesizes" them |
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| 14:10.29 | twobitsp1ite | rysiek: now... my advice comes with no warrenty whatsoever ;) |
| 14:10.36 | Bushmills | and when it did, you should be able to refer to them, |
| 14:10.38 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: and I tell it to "go" - how? ;) |
| 14:10.42 | twobitsp1ite | warranty& |
| 14:10.49 | cpn42 | Hello everybody |
| 14:10.55 | gangsterlicious | Bushmills: right. so i attached an USB key and dmesg see the outputs. still nothing in autofs homedir |
| 14:11.08 | twobitsp1ite | rysiek: in the aptitude tui, I think the key is 'g' ... but try 'h' first :) |
| 14:11.31 | gangsterlicious | n/m. i failed |
| 14:11.31 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: man, I am using Linux The Permament Beta(tm) for a loong time. no need for warranties, I trust fellow penguins ;) |
| 14:11.33 | gangsterlicious | see it now |
| 14:11.39 | twobitsp1ite | yes, in fact, when you start aptitude's tui at the top is a key-map ;) |
| 14:11.39 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: great, thanks a bunch |
| 14:11.41 | Bushmills | try to change to the dir, or make an ls. you'll see those only after they have been referred to |
| 14:11.42 | twobitsp1ite | np |
| 14:11.51 | Bushmills | ("used" or "accessed") |
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| 14:12.26 | Bushmills | not the plugging in is what automounts them, but the attempt of accessing them |
| 14:12.27 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: heh, 'g' is used for marking the packages... Polish translation is a bit... ambiguous here ;) |
| 14:12.38 | rysiek | twobitsp1ite: thanks again, aptitude'in |
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| 14:12.52 | twobitsp1ite | rysiek: my aptitude says this on the second line: C-T: Menu ?: Help q: Quit u: Update g: Download/Install/Remove Pkgs |
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| 14:13.00 | knoxy | twobitsp1ite not found... I dont know why the list of libraries are not updated... |
| 14:13.16 | twobitsp1ite | knoxy: sorry, I don't know |
| 14:13.43 | cpn42 | yop MrMopi |
| 14:13.45 | Orangebat | How would I find out which package cd contains abiword for i386? (or could someone tell me) |
| 14:14.02 | streuner | !cd contents |
| 14:14.02 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. Also ask me about <cd contents sarge>. |
| 14:14.18 | Orangebat | streuner: thank you |
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| 14:18.36 | davis | i recently installed debian on a new computer. I removed gdm and gnome. Then I installed blackbox. now when I start X, it simply shows a screen with black and white hatching. no blackbox and know windows. Just a cursor. Any idea what to do? |
| 14:19.08 | Bushmills | davis, that's the default X background |
| 14:19.21 | Bushmills | probably you don't start blackbox |
| 14:19.29 | davis | that is what I think. |
| 14:19.33 | Bushmills | try startx $(which blackbox) |
| 14:19.46 | davis | I did a dpkg-reconfigure X and blackbox but it still does not work. |
| 14:19.53 | davis | i'll try tht. |
| 14:20.40 | Eskimo | hi, could someone help me solve/report a problem on my laptop : I get an error when I try to boot it unplugged (ie on battery power). I just get a message ending with "[end trace f190...]" |
| 14:20.51 | davis | that works |
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| 14:21.30 | Eskimo | i'm using lenny, BTW |
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| 14:23.02 | Eskimo | other than that, the console prints a list of processes and some hexagesimal code |
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| 14:27.07 | Eskimo | or does anyone know where I can find a log of what the computer displays on boot ? |
| 14:27.23 | Bushmills | Eskimo: dmesg |
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| 14:28.04 | Bushmills | also, /var/log/dmesg |
| 14:28.11 | fas3r | hello everybody |
| 14:28.19 | Eskimo | Bushmills> thanks, I'll try that :) |
| 14:28.48 | fas3r | i need to search in textfile .. but i don't know the folders ? it's possible with grep and find to search in files in folders ? |
| 14:29.14 | Bushmills | Eskimo: chances are if the hexadecimal numbers are a register and stack dump, and the problem a kernel oops, that the log won't be written completely |
| 14:29.35 | maligor | fas3r, grep text * -R |
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| 14:31.06 | fas3r | thank maligor ;) |
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| 14:33.23 | Eskimo | Bushmills> I guess the /var/log/dmesg only contains the last log ? |
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| 14:33.43 | Bushmills | Eskimo: /var/log/dmesg.0 |
| 14:33.47 | Bushmills | dmesg.1.gz |
| 14:33.48 | Bushmills | etc |
| 14:34.01 | Eskimo | oh, thanks :) |
| 14:34.04 | talexb | I'm using configure in preparation for building a .deb but it seems I can't specify an empty string for one of my parameters, and I'd like to. |
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| 14:35.24 | talexb | configure --with-this_symbol="" means that @THIS_SYMBOL@ is not replaced by "" -- it leaves @THIS_SYMBOL@ in place. |
| 14:35.44 | talexb | Not sure where else to ask this question. |
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| 14:36.07 | Bushmills | talexb: try to subst against "\ " or " " (space char) |
| 14:36.35 | talexb | Bushmills I tried "''" already, but I'll try that as well. Thanks. |
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| 14:37.31 | Haris1 | \amethyst: I hope you received my message last night |
| 14:37.54 | Haris1 | Is there a newer than 2.6.24-1 kernel snapshot out ? |
| 14:38.02 | talexb | Bushmills Nope .. still comes through as '<ommitted>' :( |
| 14:38.24 | talexb | Or rather, I tried "\\"\\"" |
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| 14:38.52 | Bushmills | Haris1: 2.6.24-6 |
| 14:39.03 | dozorny | http://s4.bitefight.sk/c.php?uid=26294 could you help us? |
| 14:39.29 | talexb | And "\"\"" doesn't do it either. |
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| 14:41.12 | Eskimo | OK, i've managed to get the error message in kern.log |
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| 14:42.17 | Haris1 | There are 905 bugs for linux-image-2.6. How can I dump them all in a file to review? |
| 14:42.31 | Haris1 | can I do this via reportbug? |
| 14:43.29 | Haris1 | #375149: Linux kernel IPv6 : random TCP connection failure |
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| 14:46.51 | Kurt2x | is there a sid type deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:47.07 | themill | Kurt2x: no |
| 14:47.09 | Kurt2x | when I type sid it doesn't work and when I type unstable it doesn't work |
| 14:47.47 | themill | Kurt2x: sid security updates are normally handled through the upload of a new upstream version of the package. (Same for lenny most of the time) |
| 14:47.55 | Kurt2x | ok |
| 14:47.55 | Bushmills | there are no security patches for sid |
| 14:48.01 | Kurt2x | thanks |
| 14:48.06 | Eulex | Kurt2x, you should know this if you run sid. |
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| 14:48.21 | hoxu | Eulex, bleh ! |
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| 14:48.35 | Eulex | ? |
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| 14:48.53 | Kurt2x | I kinda figured it, but I thought I'd ask to be sure |
| 14:49.02 | hoxu | Eulex, what you said is true, but sid wouldn't get new testers if people didn't start from somewhere :P |
| 14:49.31 | Kurt2x | I just changed all my sources from lenny to sid, and I did an aptitude update and now an aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 14:49.37 | Kurt2x | I'm crossing my fingers |
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| 14:50.24 | Joelito | I got a question, I'm trying to install the Virtual pdf printer in my new Debian lenny box.. |
| 14:50.36 | Haris1 | Bushmills: 24-6 is not listed in snapshots, sid, backports or any other source |
| 14:51.01 | Bushmills | haris, there is a kernel source patch to 2.6.24-6 in sid |
| 14:51.19 | Joelito | I know the steps about how to add it, but seems that in my model list, doesn't appear "postscript"..any ideas? |
| 14:51.43 | Bushmills | actually, kernel sources too |
| 14:51.57 | Bushmills | linux-source-2.6.24 2.6.24-6 Linux kernel source |
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| 14:53.16 | joebrunner | who #m1710 |
| 14:53.21 | joebrunner | oops |
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| 14:54.45 | Eskimo | so, I think my laptop problem has something to do with "kacpi_notify", could someone have a look at my kern.log ? |
| 14:54.52 | Joelito | anyone? :( |
| 14:55.17 | themill | Joelito: have you installed the cups-pdf package? |
| 14:55.26 | Bushmills | Eskimo: old notebook? |
| 14:55.31 | Joelito | themill: Yes |
| 14:55.48 | Eskimo | Bushmills> 1 year old, toshiba L30-105 |
| 14:56.14 | themill | Joelito: The device URI is "cups-pdf:/" |
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| 14:56.27 | Bushmills | not really old. i.e. not too old for ACPI |
| 14:56.41 | fas3r | i have install and remove (with option --purge) apache2. When i reinstall it why it doesn't recreate default configuration in /etc ? |
| 14:56.45 | winux | hi,who has compiled the ofed at debian ? |
| 14:56.50 | themill | !tell fas3r about confmiss |
| 14:57.03 | Eskimo | Bushmills> ok |
| 14:57.23 | fas3r | themill: ok thank ;) |
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| 14:58.06 | Bushmills | Eskimo: try to disable ACPI at the boot prompt |
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| 14:58.36 | Eskimo | Bushmills> ok |
| 14:58.56 | buggmaster | hrph, no systat on this os, how does one get the hd activiry info on debian? |
| 14:59.09 | fas3r | themill: hum .. it doesn't recreate conf file ...i do : " apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install apache2 " |
| 14:59.39 | themill | fas3r: iirc, config file is in the -common package |
| 14:59.40 | amphi | I have a UUID entry in /etc/fstab to mount a usb device; I can mount it as $USER with 'mount /media/foo', I cannot umount it as $USER; I get "umount: /media/foo mount disagrees with the fstab" |
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| 15:00.13 | themill | !find etc/apache2/apache2.conf etch |
| 15:00.20 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'etc/apache2/apache2.conf' (1): (/etc/apache2/apache2.conf) in net/apache2.2-common. |
| 15:00.26 | themill | fas3r: ^^ |
| 15:00.38 | enouf | amphi: hrm, you should probably leave removable/external devices from /etc/fstab |
| 15:00.42 | fas3r | it's good :p |
| 15:00.48 | fas3r | thank a lot :) |
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| 15:00.59 | fas3r | why i haven't look with apt-cache show .. :s |
| 15:00.59 | enouf | amphi: especially when using /media as mount dir ;-) |
| 15:01.04 | fas3r | thank :) |
| 15:01.11 | amphi | enouf: yeah, I use pmount normally - I was just experimenting |
| 15:01.28 | enouf | amphi: usually, you make a udev rule .. or.. |
| 15:01.43 | enouf | is that not present ? ;-) |
| 15:01.47 | themill | fas3r: for that sort of thing, apt-file search is better. /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 15:02.00 | amphi | enouf: a udev rule to do what? |
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| 15:02.35 | amphi | enouf: the advantage of the fstab entry is not needing to know the device name to mount |
| 15:02.38 | enouf | amphi: to mount a hotpluggable device, and always at the same mount point and/or LABEL name |
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| 15:03.00 | enouf | amphi: the UUID or LABEL should overcome any of that |
| 15:03.28 | Sam___ | hi when restarting mysql I get |
| 15:03.29 | Sam___ | ns1:~# sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 15:03.30 | Sam___ | Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld. |
| 15:03.42 | Sam___ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.59 | Sam___ | so I'll need to expand the /var/ partition I'd assume |
| 15:04.04 | Sam___ | how do I go about doing this |
| 15:04.15 | Sam___ | I can only remotly connect to the machine via ssh |
| 15:04.20 | Sam___ | \I have root access |
| 15:04.20 | Bushmills | amphi: through an udev rule you can create a symlink from device name (constant) to mount point (variable) |
| 15:04.29 | Bushmills | amphi: i think that's even done by default |
| 15:04.44 | enouf | Bushmills: it is, on many devices |
| 15:04.48 | Bushmills | but i forgot where the directory with symlinks to mounted devices is |
| 15:05.03 | themill | Sam___: you can probably free up space on /var by running apt-get clean |
| 15:05.13 | Sam___ | themill: ok |
| 15:05.22 | Eskimo | Bushmills> with acpi disabled, it's working :) |
| 15:05.28 | enouf | example -- /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-cd.rules:ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", SUBSYSTEMS=="ide", KERNELS=="1.1", SYMLINK+="dvd1", ENV{GENERATED}="1" |
| 15:05.57 | Sam___ | themill: now I get |
| 15:05.59 | Sam___ | ns1:~# apt-get clean |
| 15:05.59 | Sam___ | ns1:~# sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 15:05.59 | Sam___ | Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld. |
| 15:05.59 | Sam___ | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! |
| 15:06.00 | Bushmills | i have modified the udev rule, to place symlinks into the /media directory instead |
| 15:06.11 | amphi | enouf: that's what I thought would occur with the fstab entry; AFAICS umount complains because /etc/mtab contains '/dev/sdb1 /media/foo' and the fstab entry has a UUID rather than device name |
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| 15:06.25 | Haris1 | How does one delete multiple lines in pico? |
| 15:06.27 | themill | Sam___: well that's an improvement :) (please don't paste into the channel though, please use a pastebin) |
| 15:06.42 | Sam___ | themill: I thought around 3 lines was ok |
| 15:06.43 | Sam___ | sorry |
| 15:07.02 | Bushmills | amphi: so the result is looking somewhat like this: http://forthfreak.net/snap/1208790399835611933.png |
| 15:07.19 | Sam___ | themill: whats our next coarse of action? |
| 15:07.32 | zshzn | cough drops. |
| 15:07.33 | enouf | amphi: makes sense - i guess .. excuse me if i appear a bit .. out of it ;-0 |
| 15:07.51 | PleXuS | hi all.. got some problems with my mdadm (soft raid) seems to not working anymore.. i just added device wich came in place of the old device name sda.. so now the raid is going to sdb and sdc .. i adjusted that on mdadm.conf but still seems to get error :| anyone any idea what this could be? |
| 15:08.04 | themill | Sam___: that's OK. just with your first line that was 5... it just adds to the noise in the channel and makes it harder to follow. Any clues as to why it failed? Check in /var/log/mysql.err (or .log) |
| 15:08.15 | amphi | enouf: I never tried this UUID lark before, so I probably don't make much sense either |
| 15:08.26 | PleXuS | can't mount the md0 device :| |
| 15:08.27 | amphi | Bushmills: uhuh |
| 15:08.38 | roe_ | I'm looking for away to fire a script either right before or after log rotate does it's thing on a specific log file |
| 15:08.51 | Sam___ | themill: well I was trying to install nxclient.. and azureus last night but failing mind |
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| 15:09.34 | enouf | amphi: did you try also adding a symlink in /dev/disk/by-uuid -> ../../sdb1 ? .. oh nm |
| 15:10.21 | enouf | amphi: anyway, udevinfo -q all -n /dev/sdb1 will show you any uuids/labels/symlinks |
| 15:10.32 | amphi | enouf: heh - my trifling purpose was to be able to mount the thing to a consistent mount point without having to know or care what device it was manifesting as |
| 15:10.42 | Sam___ | themill: theres nothing in .err or .log |
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| 15:12.07 | samducker | themill: I think it might be working again can you go to http://watsound.co.uk and check |
| 15:12.18 | samducker | as I'm not sure if its my cache why the sites working again |
| 15:12.20 | PleXuS | anyone got some experience with mdadm? |
| 15:12.23 | samducker | or.. if its actually working |
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| 15:12.44 | mquin | PleXuS: a little, what's your question? |
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| 15:13.46 | Absolute0 | Can I set a proxy in qemu? |
| 15:13.52 | PleXuS | mquin, i added a sata device.. and now my existing soft raid don't work anymore.. but what did happened ---> sda1 and sdb1 where the soft raid before.. now the new disc became sda1 and the soft raid discs sdb1 and sdc1 |
| 15:14.07 | PleXuS | mquin, any idea why it now don't want to work :| |
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| 15:14.17 | Bushmills | PleXuS: http://popcon.debian.org |
| 15:14.27 | PleXuS | mquin, i adjusted the device list in mdadm.conf but still not working |
| 15:14.37 | PleXuS | Bushmills, gonna check :) |
| 15:15.02 | mquin | PleXuS: could you pastebin the contents of /proc/mdstat ? |
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| 15:15.11 | PleXuS | ok |
| 15:15.18 | Bushmills | PleXuS: don't bother, that was a reply to your initial question |
| 15:15.20 | Eskimo | Bushmills> should I fill a bug report about my problem ? |
| 15:15.22 | enouf | amphi: thanks, now my head is spinning with circular recursion like some misfit celebrity deathmatch between Psychotic Stepford wives and Peyton Place denizens |
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| 15:16.30 | Bushmills | PleXuS: and i should have given you this link: http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=mdadm |
| 15:16.50 | PleXuS | mquin, http://pastebin.com/db47c4fd |
| 15:17.19 | Bushmills | Eskimo: not sure - ACPI problems are often due to the BIOS manufacturer not implementing the acpi tables faithfully or completely. |
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| 15:17.44 | PleXuS | Bushmills, what your saying with the statistics? |
| 15:17.48 | halflife08 | PleXuS: mdadm has a scan option that you can use to identify the raid devices and assemble them again \ |
| 15:18.13 | Bushmills | PleXuS: you asked whether anyone has any experience. the stats should answer that |
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| 15:18.25 | PleXuS | Bushmills, lol haha :) |
| 15:18.33 | PleXuS | halflife08, hmm gonna check it :) |
| 15:19.00 | Eskimo | Bushmills> I think it worked on sarge |
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| 15:19.27 | mquin | PleXuS: okay, is this a raid1 array? |
| 15:19.42 | PleXuS | mquin, no raid0 |
| 15:20.37 | amphi | enouf: heheh |
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| 15:23.19 | PleXuS | halflife08, mdadm: --scan does not set the mode, and so cannot be the first option. |
| 15:23.28 | PleXuS | so it won't work with scan :| |
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| 15:24.42 | halflife08 | PleXuS: read the man page again. |
| 15:24.52 | Haris1 | damned! long bugreport |
| 15:24.58 | PleXuS | halflife08, ok no need anymore ;) fixed lol |
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| 15:25.06 | halflife08 | PleXuS: okay |
| 15:25.10 | mquin | PleXuS: what was the solution? |
| 15:25.11 | PleXuS | thanks you all for helping me out anyway! :) |
| 15:25.16 | halflife08 | np |
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| 15:25.23 | PleXuS | mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 |
| 15:25.27 | PleXuS | this fixed my problem |
| 15:25.42 | PleXuS | pretty easy to now when i see it :- |
| 15:25.44 | PleXuS | :) |
| 15:25.56 | mquin | cool |
| 15:26.13 | PleXuS | i was little bit scared to destroy my software :) |
| 15:26.15 | halflife08 | PleXuS: using the scan option u can even dump the config to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf so that you dont have make changes |
| 15:26.50 | talexb | Bushmills, Thanks for your help earlier .. I've gone the route of just removing the config file insteading of trying to pass in a null string. |
| 15:27.09 | PleXuS | halflife08, where do i get the scan option? is it some extra package that i need to install? |
| 15:27.12 | talexb | Hmm, s/config file/config parameter/ |
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| 15:27.43 | enouf | PleXuS: is / fs on that raid? |
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| 15:28.17 | PleXuS | enouf, nope.. thats a seppareted hardisk ;) |
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| 15:28.31 | enouf | righto - that's what makes it easy ;-) |
| 15:28.33 | PleXuS | running on old pata 120gb disc :) |
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| 15:29.03 | PleXuS | enouf, the raid is just all my download files :) |
| 15:29.47 | mquin | PleXuS: --scan is an option to --assemble |
| 15:30.06 | PleXuS | halflife08, you mean that it won't happen again when there has been added a new device with scan? |
| 15:30.12 | halflife08 | PleXuS: the use of scan option is documented in the man page. i believe you need to use -Q or -q or something like that as the first option to scan a disk. i don't have a sw raid to try and let you know. |
| 15:30.47 | Haris1 | dammit |
| 15:30.48 | Haris1 | ! |
| 15:31.01 | Haris1 | BTS is busy :p or its mail server is slow. I get a report within 3mins. |
| 15:31.06 | Haris1 | :p |
| 15:31.07 | enouf | ~$ rgrep -i "\--scan" /usr/share/doc/mdadm/ |
| 15:32.03 | halflife08 | PleXuS: every time you the device id's change and you need to recover you can scan the raid block of the disk and identify which software raid array it belonged to. from that you can assemble the disks |
| 15:32.06 | PleXuS | mdadm --assembly --scan that way its working :) |
| 15:32.41 | PleXuS | halflife08, yeah but there is allready a booting script running of mdadm i think |
| 15:32.56 | PleXuS | how do i add that to it then? or do i need to make my own one :) |
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| 15:34.20 | mardi | hiya debianians! |
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| 15:35.20 | halflife08 | PleXuS: yes there is a init script /etc/init.d/mdadm if i recollect correctly |
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| 15:36.33 | msan | What is a good program to create a photo gallery with besides Gallery2 ? |
| 15:36.54 | enouf | there's also /etc/default/mdadm, but doesn;t really apply in this case, since / is not on raid |
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| 15:44.14 | cahoot | msan: album is one (perl) |
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| 15:47.47 | remote | Howdy |
| 15:48.49 | remote | I'm attempting to mount my LUKS partitions on a live Ubuntu cd-rom but cannot see my LVM (eg: /dev/mapper/ does not contain what I'm looking for), it was created using a dm-crypt LUKS with debian-installer, could someoen push me around ? |
| 15:49.16 | Haris1 | How can one tell if a LVM partition went bad? |
| 15:49.40 | halflife08 | remote: #ubuntu |
| 15:49.56 | _CASE_ | ubuntu is debian |
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| 15:50.24 | remote | i feel there are more knowledgable people in this channel |
| 15:50.27 | _CASE_ | plus, debianers know more ;) |
| 15:50.35 | _CASE_ | see?? :P |
| 15:50.37 | remote | hah! |
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| 15:51.29 | remote | i don't know much about lvm except that it's what they use to contain the LUKS dm-crypt'd partitions during my install |
| 15:52.04 | remote | i used to have /dev/mapper/workstationName-home, /dev/mapper/workstationName-opt, etc. but now (on Ubuntu live CD) i'm only seeing /dev/mapper/control |
| 15:53.46 | _CASE_ | remote is dmraid loaded? |
| 15:53.59 | remote | i loaded a few raid modules but let me confirm... |
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| 15:54.49 | remote | here for a 3 liner: |
| 15:54.50 | remote | FATAL: Module dmraid not found. |
| 15:54.50 | remote | root@ubuntu:~# apt-cache search dmraid |
| 15:54.50 | remote | root@ubuntu:~# find /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ -iname "*dmraid*" |
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| 15:55.11 | abrotman | _CASE_: DO NOT DO THAT |
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| 15:55.15 | abrotman | remote: ask #ubuntu |
| 15:55.20 | _CASE_ | do no do what?? |
| 15:55.31 | _CASE_ | don't yell, friend |
| 15:55.39 | abrotman | don't tell people that ubuntu is debian |
| 15:55.39 | enouf | buh bye |
| 15:55.45 | _CASE_ | but it is |
| 15:55.48 | abrotman | no .. it' snot |
| 15:55.54 | _CASE_ | it's a fork |
| 15:55.57 | remote | abrotman: i am |
| 15:55.57 | abrotman | it's NOT debian |
| 15:56.02 | remote | this is pointless |
| 15:56.08 | remote | i could be asking in #slackware |
| 15:56.12 | abrotman | or ##linux |
| 15:56.18 | remote | stop plz |
| 15:56.41 | enouf | and dmraid is not lvm |
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| 15:56.59 | remote | well i know debian-installer used dm-crypt |
| 15:57.05 | msan | cahoot: thanks |
| 15:57.13 | abrotman | remote: go to #ubuntu .. we do not support Ubuntu here |
| 15:57.24 | remote | and i know what i need is to see my luks partitions in /dev/mapper/ |
| 15:57.25 | idimmu | politix |
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| 15:57.33 | enouf | try wiki.debian.org maybe - we have no idea how or what a ubuntu cd does |
| 15:57.40 | Xteven | remote: you need to load raid1 or raid0 |
| 15:57.43 | Xteven | or raid456 |
| 15:57.54 | remote | abrotman: i'm not on ubuntu anymore, I'm in debian and i wiped /etc, single user mode |
| 15:57.55 | Xteven | or whatever raid you need |
| 15:58.45 | remote | Xteven: i tried a few already maybe i'll load them all but i doubt this will do anything |
| 15:58.51 | PleXuS | is there a guid how to make deb packages from source build? |
| 15:59.05 | Xteven | apt-get build I think |
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| 16:00.02 | halflife08 | PleXuS: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html scroll down to 7.13 |
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| 16:01.13 | themill | !tell PleXuS about nmg |
| 16:02.54 | riot | hi |
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| 16:03.00 | remote | hello |
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| 16:03.05 | riot | are there any known problems with 1 TB Samsung SATA2 disks? |
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| 16:03.14 | riot | i plugged two in yesterday and the kernel wouldn't boot :( |
| 16:03.37 | riot | it detected the hdds and had some problems. Sadly, i don't have the error-message right now. |
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| 16:04.07 | Bushmills | remote: maybe they know on #linspire? |
| 16:04.25 | remote | :) |
| 16:04.31 | Bushmills | because, afaik, ubuntu = linspire |
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| 16:04.40 | ehird | Package emacs-snapshot-gtk is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 16:04.52 | remote | arf |
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| 16:09.00 | enouf | riot: are they being hooked into a sata1 capable mobo/chipset only? |
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| 16:09.26 | dhe-` | Is there a way to build a own debian etch installer kernel, because the one on the cd doesnt detect my SAS hardisks? |
| 16:09.54 | enouf | riot: sometimes there's a jumper to enable/disable sata2 mode |
| 16:09.58 | stew | dhe-`: /msg dpkg custom d-i ; /msg dpkg kmuto |
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| 16:10.19 | ehird | What does it mean? |
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| 16:11.22 | stew | ehird: there is some package declaring some kind of relationship to the emacs-snapshot-gtk package (could be something like "suggests" or "depends" or "enhances"). however, there is no longer a package named emacs-snapshot-gtk in debian |
| 16:11.32 | StuckMojo | ummmm...what's the apt-get option that makes it always ask for confirmation? anyone remember off hand? |
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| 16:11.35 | ehird | stew: Helpful |
| 16:11.43 | ehird | stew: Why is emacs-snapshot-gtk not there any more? :-) |
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| 16:12.11 | stew | ehird: its maintainer wanted to maintain it outside of debian because he is unhappy that debian moved the emacs documentation to non-free |
| 16:12.27 | ehird | stew: Fun. |
| 16:12.31 | dhe-` | stew: this files are more than outdated |
| 16:12.38 | ehird | Looks like I need to get my gtk goodness elsewhere then |
| 16:12.41 | riot | enouf: oh, i'd guess the abit ix38 quad gt should have sata2.. And i don't remember any jumpers on there. |
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| 16:12.52 | ehird | Where is it maintained? |
| 16:13.08 | riot | enouf: yet, i'm gonna check out. So, this could probably be a sata/sata2-compatibility-problem |
| 16:13.11 | stew | dhe-`: how so? |
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| 16:14.08 | stew | ehird: http://emacs.orebokech.com/ |
| 16:14.39 | dhe-` | stew: its for sarge or something before. the cd tree is a complety other |
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| 16:15.15 | Knight_Lord | If my mount would be segfaulting while mounting an NFS partition what do you think i should od? |
| 16:15.26 | stew | dhe-`: try kmuto |
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| 16:17.06 | fas3r | i have problem with phpmyadmin .. my sql file is as bigger than accept size ... it's possible in command line to execute the .sql file ? |
| 16:17.08 | enouf | riot: is that an up and running debian system? if not, then you likely need a newer kernel than etch to support your newer hardware - do; /msg dpkg kmuto in your irc client |
| 16:17.28 | Haris1 | fas3r: There are multiple ways to do it |
| 16:17.37 | Haris1 | fas3r: shell is one of them |
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| 16:17.58 | fas3r | Haris1: i remember i have do it in past but i don't remember the good synthax |
| 16:18.08 | Meaw | in bootup i got only : grub> |
| 16:18.09 | Meaw | why? |
| 16:18.12 | Haris1 | fas3r: mysqldump --help |
| 16:18.22 | fas3r | Haris1: ok thank ;) |
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| 16:20.57 | halflife08 | Meaw: that happens when grub is not able to find information about boot records of partitions to boot. |
| 16:21.18 | themill | fas3r: phpmyadmin will also accept compressed sql files which might help you. From the command line, something like: mysql -p --user root < file.sql |
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| 16:21.28 | protoloco | could i use a hp server (blade) with gentoo? |
| 16:21.36 | fas3r | themill: it's ok i have do it in command line ;) |
| 16:21.48 | Bushmills | protoloco: ask in #suse |
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| 16:22.19 | enouf | Meaw: looks like a grub shell prompt to me |
| 16:22.22 | SlayerXP | protoloco: no, sorry, you can't |
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| 16:22.36 | enouf | Meaw: got a grub floppy or cd in the drive?? |
| 16:22.48 | vanksi | protoloco, might not be the right channel to ask that |
| 16:22.58 | halflife08 | protoloco: #gentoo |
| 16:23.39 | Bushmills | or #bsd |
| 16:23.59 | protoloco | could i use a hp server (blade) with debian? |
| 16:24.07 | protoloco | :p |
| 16:24.10 | enouf | heh |
| 16:24.11 | SlayerXP | protoloco: yes, you have our permission to do so |
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| 16:24.16 | protoloco | im thinking to use both.. |
| 16:24.19 | protoloco | oks.. |
| 16:24.23 | emdete | hi, i have problems translating spca5xx with module-assistant. it complains about using CFLAGS and a missing header linux/config.h - does someone know a solution? |
| 16:24.49 | enouf | emdete: have your kernel headers installed? |
| 16:25.16 | emdete | enouf: yes. module-assistant does that. there is no config.h in that dir... |
| 16:25.30 | emdete | enouf: was it renamed recently? |
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| 16:25.42 | enouf | no idea |
| 16:26.20 | enouf | !spca5xx |
| 16:26.31 | enouf | whatever that is |
| 16:27.04 | emdete | enouf: you are a very unfriendly guy today ;) |
| 16:27.07 | protoloco | if i have 250 mail users in Debian.. using postfix + scalix.. What could be a good server ?? |
| 16:27.14 | protoloco | opteron ? |
| 16:27.59 | enouf | protoloco: general harwdare questions are probably best asked in #hardware |
| 16:28.45 | enouf | emdete: not really, though i can tell you this - it wouldn't take much ;-) |
| 16:28.55 | stew | protoloco: serving 250 mail user wouldn't require anything in particular in the way of a CPU choice |
| 16:29.09 | fas3r | someone use spip ? |
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| 16:29.54 | rysiek | guys, can I resize a ro-mounted partition? |
| 16:30.09 | rysiek | I have to make more swap space on a running Debian etch server |
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| 16:30.20 | rysiek | and I'd rather not taking it down ;) |
| 16:31.01 | stew | rysiek: if it is ext2 or ext3 you can make the filesystem larger while mounted, but not smaller |
| 16:31.08 | rysiek | darn |
| 16:31.15 | WormFood | you don't need to use a swap partition, why not make a swap file? |
| 16:31.32 | enouf | online resizing isn't smart - you should've considered lvm2 perhaps - oh, but you can create another swap partition or file if you like, if all you need is more swap |
| 16:31.33 | rysiek | because Oracle says so :/ |
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| 16:31.45 | rysiek | hmm |
| 16:31.53 | rysiek | file might just do the tric |
| 16:31.56 | rysiek | *trick |
| 16:31.59 | WormFood | it will |
| 16:32.06 | WormFood | I've done it before |
| 16:32.13 | WormFood | only drawback is speed (or lack of speed) |
| 16:32.18 | rysiek | WormFood: ok, how. :) |
| 16:32.24 | rysiek | and what do I need |
| 16:32.35 | WormFood | RTFM, I don't remember off the top of my head, and I'm going to bed now |
| 16:32.42 | Bushmills | protoloco if everyone of your 250 users receives 10000 mails per day, you'd need a different server than if everyone got 1 mail per week |
| 16:32.44 | enouf | dd a file full of zeros, mkswap on it |
| 16:32.44 | rysiek | g'night then |
| 16:32.53 | rysiek | ok |
| 16:32.59 | rysiek | that makes sense |
| 16:33.04 | WormFood | goes to bed |
| 16:33.08 | enouf | then swapon it |
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| 16:34.21 | enouf | once it shows in cat /proc/swaps the system is using it (afaict) |
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| 16:34.38 | enouf | (rather, it's available to the system) |
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| 16:35.11 | stew | WormFood: the performance of a swapfile verses a swap partition should not differ |
| 16:35.12 | rysiek | does dd |
| 16:35.36 | enouf | only in relation to placement on disk |
| 16:35.39 | stew | WormFood: unless you mean, perhaps the speed it takes to actually run "swapon" and not the it takes to actually use the swap |
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| 16:35.56 | pinto3 | i understood the swap partition to be more orderly and easier to access sequentially, vs a possibly fragmented directory |
| 16:36.03 | WormFood | stew, it should, because if your swap file is scattered all over the drive, it will be slower |
| 16:36.17 | stew | and if its not, it wouldn't |
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| 16:36.40 | enouf | there's no inherent difference from what i've read - again, inner/outer part of disk is the only factor really - priority can be set etc |
| 16:36.48 | samducker | hi how do I give read + write access to a specfic user for a specfic dir |
| 16:37.01 | samducker | as I want to give a user to be able to use ssh with /var/ |
| 16:37.12 | samducker | as well as his home and all the standard places he can edit an access |
| 16:37.12 | stew | samducker: /msg dpkg permissions |
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| 16:37.39 | stew | samducker: you don't want to give a user permission to all of /var/ i don't think |
| 16:38.04 | Bushmills | samducker: consider to allow specific tasks in var |
| 16:38.06 | samducker | well /var/www/virtual/watsound.co.uk/ would do |
| 16:38.08 | rysiek | hmmm. I can even combine swap partition and file |
| 16:38.10 | rysiek | neat |
| 16:38.12 | Bushmills | samducker: enable those through, for example, sudi |
| 16:38.14 | Bushmills | sudo |
| 16:38.27 | samducker | Bushmills: I don't want to give them the root password |
| 16:38.33 | pinto3 | i don't think i've touched my swapfile with 2 gigs of ram since i installed linux |
| 16:38.35 | enouf | WormFood: unlike windows' swapfile which grows and shrinks, a swapfile made in linux is one contiguous chunk which does nt |
| 16:38.38 | Bushmills | samducker: no need to doso |
| 16:38.49 | themill | stew: istr that the performance of swapfiles used to be substantially slower (but I'm talking 2.0 or maybe even a 1.mumble kernel here). Is that no longer the case? If not, why would anyone use a swap partition anymore and not just make a swapfile on install? |
| 16:38.54 | samducker | Bushmills: .... how so |
| 16:39.10 | Bushmills | samducker: look at sudo. its configuration. |
| 16:39.18 | samducker | I just need to know the command for adding read write access for adding a dir to a user |
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| 16:39.29 | samducker | that would be the best |
| 16:39.38 | Bushmills | you can set it up to allow specific users, or users knowing a specific password, to di specific things |
| 16:39.44 | rysiek | themill: I think it's just what WormFood said |
| 16:39.46 | stew | themill: the kernel makes a map of swapfile offsets to actual blocks on disk, it shouldn't matter if those blocks were allocated by a filesystem or not after swapon is done |
| 16:39.55 | Bushmills | not just become root with root password |
| 16:39.58 | rysiek | themill: a file is scattered around the disk, for one |
| 16:40.20 | samducker | Bushmills: how do I use sudo config then |
| 16:40.24 | stew | samducker: make that user the owner with chown, change them permissions with chmod. alternativly, make the files/directories owned by a group that contains the user |
| 16:40.37 | Bushmills | samducker: you edit it according your taste or preference |
| 16:40.39 | themill | stew: so why the preference for swap partitions still? |
| 16:40.40 | rysiek | themill: besides, swap space. in a file. it has BAD IDEA written all over |
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| 16:40.50 | stew | themill: i dont' know |
| 16:40.55 | themill | :) |
| 16:41.10 | twobitsp1ite | why does dpkg-buildpackage mark my package as unstable, and how do I get it not to? |
| 16:41.16 | rysiek | stew: because it's much harder to delete a swap partition than file? ;) |
| 16:41.18 | stew | samducker: you don't need sudo, the user doesn't need to access anyone elses privileges, you just need to give him access to the files |
| 16:41.34 | SlayerXP | rysiek: not really, if the file isn't fragemented there's little performance impact, and ext2/3 actively prevent fragmentation |
| 16:41.38 | samducker | stew: so what are the commands I need to do |
| 16:41.38 | stew | twobitsp1ite: the changelog |
| 16:41.43 | Bushmills | stew, write access. whole var tree? |
| 16:41.52 | samducker | stew: I want anyone with a shell account to be able to access /var/www/virtual/watsound.co.uk/ |
| 16:41.54 | themill | twobitsp1ite: it uses whatever is in the changelog |
| 16:41.55 | enouf | rysiek: you can use dd with bs=32M count=nn if you like to allocate large contiguous blocks of space that do not become fragmented |
| 16:41.56 | stew | Bushmills: no, to the specific directory in var he is talking about |
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| 16:42.04 | twobitsp1ite | stew: I see it in there, but how do I get dpkg-buildpackage to not put that in there? I don't see an option in the manfile |
| 16:42.06 | enouf | rysiek: or larger or smaller |
| 16:42.17 | rysiek | enouf: ok, I am in the dark on that in that case |
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| 16:42.46 | themill | twobitsp1ite: you put it in the changelog yourself. Use an editor or dch from the devscripts package. |
| 16:42.56 | stew | twobitsp1ite: dpkg-buildpackage isn't putting that in htere |
| 16:42.56 | twobitsp1ite | themill: ok, thanks |
| 16:43.09 | Bushmills | oh, right. specific dir. missed that, |
| 16:43.10 | twobitsp1ite | stew: ahh... right, dh_make put it there... ok, cool |
| 16:43.26 | samducker | stew: ... ? |
| 16:43.32 | samducker | stew: I want anyone with a shell account to be able to access /var/www/virtual/watsound.co.uk/ |
| 16:43.41 | paparsifal | samducker: create a group (for exemple : webusers) |
| 16:43.56 | themill | samducker: by "access" I presume you mean "edit files in"? |
| 16:43.59 | paparsifal | give the group read/write access to your dir |
| 16:44.06 | paparsifal | put your users in that group |
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| 16:44.15 | samducker | themill: yes |
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| 16:44.31 | samducker | paparsifal: done... now how do I add users to that group and make that group the owner of said directory |
| 16:44.58 | paparsifal | chown root.webusers mydir |
| 16:45.09 | paparsifal | chmod g+s mydir |
| 16:45.09 | stew | samducker: adduser username groupname |
| 16:45.10 | themill | samducker: adduser username groupname |
| 16:45.16 | themill | *snap* |
| 16:45.22 | samducker | stew the user already exists |
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| 16:45.33 | AnyFile | How can I install a new font? (or how can convert it from ttf to a supported format. And where I have to put the font?) |
| 16:45.34 | stew | samducker: good, then run "adduser username groupname" to add them to a different group |
| 16:45.35 | themill | samducker: yes. See man 8 addser |
| 16:45.42 | paparsifal | adduser user group |
| 16:47.09 | riot | enouf: that system runs very fine, even with just a 750 GB Samsung. Only the 1TB disks are causing problems. Both of them together and both alone. I'm running unstable 2.6.24 on the box. |
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| 16:47.24 | samducker | stew , themill now my site can't be viewed :( |
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| 16:47.56 | stew | samducker: show us the output of "ls -l /path/to/some/file" for a file you can no longer view |
| 16:48.14 | paparsifal | samducker: maybe your files must be owned by the nobody user |
| 16:48.24 | stew | no |
| 16:48.35 | paparsifal | samducker: or the apache user |
| 16:48.37 | stew | no |
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| 16:49.01 | themill | paparsifal: please stop guessing |
| 16:49.05 | samducker | paparsifal: no its alright I had to chmod abit more |
| 16:50.43 | enouf | riot: perhaps they are connected to a different SATA Controller (3rd party chip) you only would need to modprobe the required modules then |
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| 16:51.59 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:53.06 | enouf | riot: play with the BIOS boot drive order to solve that - there are other ways as well |
| 16:53.46 | enouf | <riot> it detected the hdds and had some problems. <--not sure what that means .. |
| 16:54.25 | rdkl18 | hey what's the fastest filesystem for usb external drives....specifically for write operations? I'm dealing with vmdk files so a recommendation for block size would be cool too. |
| 16:56.13 | enouf | might ask in #vmware |
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| 16:56.22 | rdkl18 | ya, im there. |
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| 16:58.50 | claudy | hmmmrrrr |
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| 16:59.03 | Bushmills | rdkl18: my guess is that it would be xfs, as xfs does aggressive memory caching, in combination with write-behind. |
| 16:59.28 | abrotman | i can't imagine xfs on an external drive would be a smart choice |
| 16:59.29 | Bushmills | rdkl18: but you want to be sure to use it on flash devices with wear balancing only |
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| 16:59.55 | Bushmills | abrotman: i'd agree that it would be at least an unusual choice |
| 16:59.56 | amphi | xfs works well on my usb disk |
| 17:00.07 | abrotman | Bushmills: i meant because of power failure concerns |
| 17:00.09 | Bushmills | but if the objective is speed, |
| 17:00.12 | anirban | Hi |
| 17:00.19 | anirban | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.23 | Bushmills | yes. no meta data journalling; |
| 17:00.28 | anirban | and found that it is already in testing |
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| 17:00.58 | abrotman | anirban: it is? |
| 17:00.59 | anirban | aptitude search kde4 |
| 17:01.01 | anirban | returns |
| 17:01.08 | anirban | kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 |
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| 17:01.19 | Bushmills | anirban: kde4 is not considered stable enough yet, |
| 17:01.29 | anirban | but I think not other packages are installed |
| 17:01.29 | Bushmills | there is a live cd which is a sort of preview |
| 17:01.46 | flami | i think KDE4 is only complete in experimental |
| 17:01.47 | Bushmills | some kde4 libs are i sid atm. but not complete kde4 |
| 17:01.49 | abrotman | !tell anirban about kde4 |
| 17:01.54 | anirban | I am using it from experimental |
| 17:01.56 | anirban | it is okay |
| 17:02.20 | anirban | but since I found it is also in testing I though installing it from testing |
| 17:02.41 | themill | anirban: as dpkg just said, please ask in #debian-kde |
| 17:02.53 | Bushmills | kde4 in testing? *raising eyebrows* |
| 17:03.34 | themill | !info kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 lenny |
| 17:03.37 | dpkg | kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4: (core binaries for the KDE 4 base runtime module), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:4.0.2-1+b1 (lenny), Packaged size: 61 kB, Installed size: 228 kB |
| 17:04.34 | pgpkeys | waves |
| 17:04.45 | riot | enouf: my original boot drive is hda. I tried the hdds on a windows box (eew) and they are working. |
| 17:04.59 | claudy | windblows.... |
| 17:05.01 | riot | enouf: and the 750 gig hdd was connected to the same controller - i just swapped the drives |
| 17:05.07 | claudy | yuke :D |
| 17:05.35 | enouf | 750GB PATA drive? |
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| 17:06.01 | claudy | hi! |
| 17:06.26 | riot | enouf: no, SATA.. like i said, i just took out the 750GB hdd and put a 1TB in its place, same power and sata cables. |
| 17:06.37 | claudy | i was wondering, how can i update xchat to a later version ? |
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| 17:07.02 | claudy | as the current version thats in the package manager is 2.6.8 o.o |
| 17:07.33 | stew | claudy: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 17:07.46 | enouf | riot: you confused me without clarifying what hda was .. anyways, make sure bios sees it all ok |
| 17:08.11 | kali_mibbit | hey everyone. i just bought a usb hard drive. is it possible to have it automount in a specific folder in my filesystem? |
| 17:08.21 | abrotman | !automount |
| 17:08.21 | dpkg | Ask me about <gnome-volume-manager>, <kde automount>, <ivman>, <autofs> or <thunar-volman>. |
| 17:08.30 | RocketGib | Hello.. I am using Ubuntu 7.10 Server and I am apparently unable to install the zlib package through apt-get |
| 17:08.38 | RocketGib | suggestions? |
| 17:08.38 | riot | enouf: yes, it does. Even the same channel as the 750. The hda is an old 80 gig ibm with unstable on it. |
| 17:08.40 | themill | !tell RocketGib about ubuntu |
| 17:08.44 | abrotman | RocketGib: ask #ubuntu |
| 17:08.50 | Bushmills | RocketGib: had you used debian, you may no have had that problem :) |
| 17:09.03 | kali_mibbit | i'd guess it is then, thanks |
| 17:09.11 | claudy | ty stew :) |
| 17:09.26 | enouf | riot: so what exactly happens when you boot? |
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| 17:09.43 | epsilon | in lenny/gnome, where's the setting for the screensaver? (or dommand to load that?) |
| 17:10.04 | Bushmills | epsilon: xscreensaver-demo |
| 17:10.11 | abrotman | should be in the Preferences |
| 17:10.53 | ron-e | Hello! I'm about to upgrade a server from sarge to etch and I'd like to remove xfree86 first (don't know why it's installed) - any hints on how to remove all related packages? |
| 17:11.07 | enouf | riot: erm, perhaps your fstab entries and boot drive are expecting different UUIDs, not to mention partition and FS layouts .. IOW, don't swap them, just add them |
| 17:11.23 | Eulex | !remove x |
| 17:11.23 | dpkg | from memory, remove x is "aptitude remove x11-common" will remove X. use "purge" instead of remove if you want it to also remove X's configuration. |
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| 17:11.47 | enouf | riot: not to mention hal and drive serial numbers and such.. etc |
| 17:12.06 | Haris1 | Hello people |
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| 17:12.35 | Haris1 | I'm building the 2.6.9 kernel. Is it possible to have debian changes to the kernel for 2.6.24-x added into it? |
| 17:12.43 | Haris1 | from source+ |
| 17:12.51 | pgpkeys | only if you pull out the patches |
| 17:12.59 | XTZGZoReX | What's the best command to clear all logs on Debian? |
| 17:13.01 | stew | Haris1: why would you want a 2.6.9 kernel? |
| 17:13.05 | Eulex | Haris1, it is, but only with _a lot_ of blood and sweat |
| 17:13.14 | pgpkeys | you can get them either from the deb itself or off the packages.debian.org. plus the newest kernel is 2.6.24 iirc |
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| 17:13.33 | Haris1 | stew: to have transparent proxy work! |
| 17:13.37 | Haris1 | Eulex: Pardon? |
| 17:13.47 | XTZGZoReX | Haris1: as in, hard. |
| 17:13.49 | XTZGZoReX | :) |
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| 17:13.53 | stew | Haris1: why wouldn't transparant proxy work with a 2.6.24 kernel? |
| 17:13.57 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: ? |
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| 17:14.04 | riot | enouf: nah, it just detects the sata-ports, has a look at the hdd's which brings out some error-message claiming a 5 sec timeout-retry.. does that, for both. Then continues booting until it runs over the cdrom driver and then has some more errors from which it doesn't seem to recover. Sorry, i have no error messages right now - i don't have internet at home currently :( |
| 17:14.13 | Haris1 | stew: Let me give an example |
| 17:14.15 | Eulex | Haris1, the kernel interfaces and internals have changed a lot between 2.6.24 and 2.6.9. |
| 17:14.15 | XTZGZoReX | Can I safely do rm -rf * in /var/log? |
| 17:14.25 | stew | XTZGZoReX: no |
| 17:14.30 | hellues | are there a debian kinds that has sid kernel 2.6.24-1-686-bigmem |
| 17:14.42 | twobitsp1ite | XTZGZoReX: look into logrotate |
| 17:14.44 | Haris1 | stew: It has problems in TCP stack |
| 17:14.50 | pgpkeys | Haris1 - as I said, you can either extract the patches from the deb itself, OR you can go online to packages.debian.org and pull down the patches from the kernel package page, AND so you know the latest kernel is 2.6.24 |
| 17:14.51 | Haris1 | stew: ..both for ipv4 and ipv6 |
| 17:15.08 | stew | XTZGZoReX: you can't remove the driectories. you can remove the files. if you remove the files without restarting things writing to them, then things writing to them will still be writing the the now removed files, so things they are logging would be removed |
| 17:15.12 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: I'm actually having a hard time understanding how I would do that. Still going through it though |
| 17:15.31 | Haris1 | stew: |
| 17:15.32 | Haris1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:15.34 | XTZGZoReX | oh, there are dirs.. |
| 17:15.44 | Haris1 | this is for linux-image-2.6.24-1-686 |
| 17:15.45 | XTZGZoReX | well stew, i thought there was a simple command to remove logs |
| 17:15.53 | twobitsp1ite | XTZGZoReX: if your log files are getting big, you need to look into logrotate |
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| 17:15.55 | Haris1 | stew: I have the same problem for ipv4 |
| 17:16.11 | Haris1 | stew: iptables sometimes doesn't REDIRECT packets --to-ports squid |
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| 17:16.23 | Haris1 | stew: connections are sometimes not accepted |
| 17:16.29 | hellues | are that a debian lenny that use sid kernel |
| 17:16.38 | Haris1 | stew: ..at random. I'v been discussing this issue here for the past few weeks |
| 17:16.38 | pgpkeys | Haris1 - OK. it's been quite some time since I've used debian (i borrow a laptop to get online and it's windows XP cause MY system crapped the bed) but the dpkg manpage should say how to do that. and I do not remember how you get the sources to a debian package. *I* would have to read up myself. |
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| 17:16.47 | Eulex | hellues, mine does. |
| 17:17.05 | hellues | hmm |
| 17:17.12 | hellues | what is the address so |
| 17:17.14 | pgpkeys | Haris1 - the things I told you are just things I remember of how debian packages work |
| 17:17.18 | themill | pgpkeys: he has no chance of applying kernel packages from 2.6.24 to the 2.6.9 kernel. |
| 17:17.23 | XTZGZoReX | Where's the logrotate config by default? |
| 17:17.31 | Haris1 | stew: Right now, I'm running the box with 2.6.24-1-686. I installed it yesterday, and I got complaints with the same problem today |
| 17:17.43 | pgpkeys | themill - I realize that, which is why i told him there is a newer kernel version |
| 17:17.44 | Eulex | Haris1, why are you sure that a 2.6.9 kernel will solve it? is it just for testing? |
| 17:17.51 | Haris1 | themill: Ok, so that means, its not possible? |
| 17:18.00 | Haris1 | 2.6.9 was in RHEL WS3 |
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| 17:18.11 | Haris1 | ..and that OS works seemlessly for transparent proxying |
| 17:18.20 | Eulex | Haris1, debian sarge had a 2.6.8 kernel. you might want to try it. |
| 17:18.21 | Haris1 | so the kernel version SHOULD on debian as well |
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| 17:18.35 | Haris1 | Eulex: Does it have builtin pppoe support? |
| 17:18.41 | Haris1 | I found 2.6.13 and later didn't |
| 17:18.48 | pgpkeys | Haris1 - then the 2.6.24 kernel should work just fine for you then. there really is no reason to stick with such an older kernel |
| 17:18.49 | Haris1 | so I need to rebuild it manually from source |
| 17:18.53 | themill | Haris1: transparent proxying is deeply evil at the best of times anyway. Don't do it. It breaks HTTP cache control and makes a mess of things in general. |
| 17:19.05 | Haris1 | themill: How? |
| 17:19.14 | Eulex | Haris1, emh, you need pppoe support built but not as modules? |
| 17:19.37 | Haris1 | Eulex: for 2.6.13, I can have it as mods? How? |
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| 17:19.53 | hellues | Eulex do ya have an address that has debian with sid kernel,and its sources and headers so on |
| 17:20.11 | pgpkeys | uhh, a straight vanilla kernel from kernel.org worked with transparent proxying. I've several friends that do it with no problems. (no patch additions. I know this because I wrote the build script for a couple of them) |
| 17:20.11 | Eulex | Haris1, I have no idea, I was trying to understand what you were saying. |
| 17:20.32 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: what version? 2.6.24 ? |
| 17:20.34 | blaab | how to unzip .7z? (a) |
| 17:20.43 | Eulex | hellues, there is no such thing. get yourself a sid kernel package, dpkg -i it. |
| 17:20.46 | Haris1 | I don't understand 'vanilla' |
| 17:20.47 | pgpkeys | blaab - unzip should do it |
| 17:20.55 | themill | Haris1: If a browser knows that it is talking to a proxy it will issue cache control instructions so that you can request newer versions of the page. If there is a transparent proxy between it won't issue those instructions and you will be fed stale versions of pages and will have no way of requesting newer versions. Use explicit proxying instead. |
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| 17:21.04 | pgpkeys | Haris1 - vanilla as in a kernel tar.bz2 from kernel.org |
| 17:21.15 | pgpkeys | that is the central linux kernel repository for all things linux |
| 17:21.20 | blaab | pgpkeys: tried, some error that it cannot find zip file :s |
| 17:21.23 | Haris1 | themill: Well, that doesn't happen here. I know from experience =) |
| 17:21.25 | pgpkeys | and actually it was 2.6.23 |
| 17:21.27 | hellues | Eulex oki doki |
| 17:21.30 | Haris1 | recent+ experience |
| 17:21.40 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: ah, I see |
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| 17:22.01 | pgpkeys | blaab - hrmm, weird. a 7z is just a zip using a generic zip container. not sure why it's not working |
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| 17:22.05 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: I'm not saying it doesn't work |
| 17:22.20 | themill | Haris1: If you have transparent proxying in place then I can guarantee it's a problem. Read the HTTP specs. Any experience to the contrary is just luck. |
| 17:22.23 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: The problem is with not accepting connections ramdomely as in -> |
| 17:22.23 | Haris1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.23 | Haris1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.33 | ick_ | Is 512 MB too little memory to run Gnome? |
| 17:22.52 | zinx | no |
| 17:22.58 | valdyn | ick_: no |
| 17:23.06 | pgpkeys | Haris1 - listen to themill as he speaks the truth in the matter. you do realize that transparent proxying does NOT follow RFC for http packets right? |
| 17:23.06 | ick_ | Or is there some option to reduce memory usage. It seems to be running a bit sluggish when compared to Windows XP. |
| 17:23.07 | Haris1 | themill: So far, my first priority is, to make browsing stable and loose all the daily complaints that it doesn't work. After that I'll be happy to improve on it |
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| 17:23.21 | ick_ | s/./? |
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| 17:23.29 | valdyn | ick_: why do you think that the sluggishness is related to memory usage? |
| 17:23.34 | Haris1 | guys! |
| 17:23.40 | Haris1 | please stop about it not being standard |
| 17:23.48 | Haris1 | I do understand and don't need to care about it right now |
| 17:23.49 | ick_ | valdyn: because it seems the swap is being used. |
| 17:23.51 | Haris1 | please! |
| 17:23.58 | themill | Haris1: things that are standard work, things that are not don't. |
| 17:24.01 | valdyn | ick_: how so? |
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| 17:24.07 | ick_ | valdyn: there are also long stalls occasionally. |
| 17:24.09 | unsolo_ | yo |
| 17:24.11 | valdyn | ick_: we dont need to guess, swap usage can be looked at |
| 17:24.14 | Haris1 | themill: You'r talking about your society, not ours |
| 17:24.16 | ick_ | valdyn: because I can hear the hard drive. |
| 17:24.27 | unsolo_ | so how do i boot a debian install cd on a 960g chipset ? |
| 17:24.30 | valdyn | ick_: thats a pretty bad measure for swap usage |
| 17:24.33 | ick_ | valdyn: (and updatedb is not running) |
| 17:24.36 | pgpkeys | Haris1 - hey then don't wonder when it breaks on more than a few occasions. if it happened to work right before, it was purely luck or the application you used was written to care about the spec as much as humanly possible |
| 17:24.38 | ick_ | valdyn: I agree. |
| 17:24.42 | valdyn | ick_: run "free" |
| 17:24.46 | ick_ | valdyn: I already did |
| 17:24.49 | Haris1 | themill: You are right. I understand. But please! I don't want to do the 'standard' way right now |
| 17:24.54 | Eulex | ick_, look at the last line then |
| 17:25.01 | valdyn | ick_: what does that program show about swap usage? |
| 17:25.09 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: This was not luck |
| 17:25.14 | ick_ | valdyn: 0 0 0 |
| 17:25.23 | valdyn | ick_: there you go |
| 17:25.24 | themill | Haris1: can you reproduce this problem if you enable explicit proxying? |
| 17:25.27 | ick_ | valdyn: but... I didn't login yet. |
| 17:25.29 | pgpkeys | yeah right. OK. nm, go about your wat |
| 17:25.30 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: I don't see any ISP without a transparent proxy in place in their infrastructure |
| 17:25.37 | TapoutT | so I did... cat file | psql -a <-- it's going ok, but I want to stop it AFTER the current line finishes, is there a clean way to halt it? |
| 17:25.42 | Eulex | ick_, umh, thus you have no swap |
| 17:25.51 | Eulex | ick_, and your machine can by definition not swap |
| 17:25.55 | Haris1 | themill: That would make me have the clients use proxy in browsers. That's detestable! |
| 17:26.08 | Haris1 | I want to have them use the default gateway |
| 17:26.15 | unsolo_ | is there still a #debian-amd64 |
| 17:26.38 | valdyn | unsolo_: why ask us? |
| 17:26.48 | ick_ | Eulex: yes, I am sure I configured swap a long time ago, though. |
| 17:26.54 | ick_ | Eulex: I will fix that first |
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| 17:27.03 | Eulex | ick_, then it's not enabled. |
| 17:27.09 | pgpkeys | Haris1 - actually most ISPs put a squid on port 80 and redirect port calls to squid which pulls it into the cache, expiring anything along the way within it's timeframe. |
| 17:27.21 | unsolo_ | valdyn: good question |
| 17:27.27 | pgpkeys | I've seen that used in more ISPs than any other single 'proxying' situation |
| 17:27.28 | unsolo_ | im having a issue with the etch livecd |
| 17:27.33 | Haris1 | redirect port calls? |
| 17:27.33 | unsolo_ | on amd64 |
| 17:27.47 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: Give me an example |
| 17:27.50 | unsolo_ | it goes into kernel panic |
| 17:27.53 | pgpkeys | i just freakin did! |
| 17:27.53 | stew | pgpkeys: this is actually what more than half of internet service providers do? |
| 17:28.05 | stew | pgpkeys: that i find very hard to believe |
| 17:28.08 | Micha_Btz | hi there, i have got working 3d withe the radeon and the ati driver with an radeon 9600SE |
| 17:28.12 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: that's plain BS |
| 17:28.13 | valdyn | pgpkeys: nonsense |
| 17:28.22 | Haris1 | pgpkeys: if squid is listening on port 80, it doesn't need any redirection |
| 17:29.03 | Micha_Btz | but my opengl version is 1.3 - to test savage i need 2.1 - it is possible to upgrade them? |
| 17:29.07 | ick_ | Eulex: swapon /dev/sda7 says it's an illegal argument |
| 17:29.20 | ick_ | Eulex: file /dev/sda7 says it |
| 17:29.23 | pgpkeys | OK, tell that to localnet, buffnet, above.net, portions of time warner on their roadrunner, and several others. your belief is not required. |
| 17:29.33 | ick_ | Eulex: 's "block special 8/7" |
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| 17:29.56 | Eulex | ick_, is it a swap partition? |
| 17:30.07 | Haris1 | themill: as far as I understand, in transparent proxying, there are specific configs in squid that break it. If you don't make those config changes, it doesn't. I have seen squid complain about breaking the http bla bla in logs |
| 17:30.24 | Haris1 | themill: generally, it doesn't complain on transparent proxy |
| 17:30.40 | ick_ | Eulex: it should be, yes |
| 17:30.47 | Haris1 | Damn! my Q has started a debate. |
| 17:30.47 | Eulex | ick_, it isn't, 8/7 is a normal file partition. 8/6 is a linux swap partition. |
| 17:30.48 | Haris1 | :( |
| 17:30.53 | \amethyst | Eulex: err |
| 17:31.03 | Eulex | yeah, the other way around |
| 17:31.06 | \amethyst | Eulex: 8/7 means sda partition 7 |
| 17:31.06 | Haris1 | Can I patch 2.6.9 with debian modifications to newer kernels, or is it impossible? |
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| 17:31.15 | \amethyst | Eulex: it has nothing to do with the filesystem type |
| 17:31.16 | valdyn | paritition type id is irrelevant to swapon |
| 17:31.20 | Eulex | argh, yeah, I'm totally wrong |
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| 17:31.38 | ick_ | Eulex: I added a harddisk some time ago, that might have changed something. |
| 17:31.40 | \amethyst | ick_: if you're sure sda7 is right, try mkswap /dev/sda7 then swapon again |
| 17:31.47 | Eulex | ick_, fdisk -l |
| 17:31.50 | valdyn | heck, swapon doesnt even need a block device |
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| 17:32.10 | Haris1 | has anyone else noticed random TCP connection failures in the latest kernels? |
| 17:32.31 | Haris1 | I'v noticed problems even with FTP protocols in 2.6.25 being discussed on kernel lists |
| 17:32.36 | Eulex | \amethyst, thought I was seeing a correspondence bertween partition id and what file was outputting :) but it wasn't... |
| 17:32.49 | Haris1 | protocol+ |
| 17:32.49 | valdyn | Haris1: you really want to be more specific, theres no general issue "with recent kernels" |
| 17:32.49 | Haris1 | that's a shame! |
| 17:33.01 | Micha_Btz | should i install fglrx to have support for 2.1?# |
| 17:33.13 | valdyn | Micha_Btz: what is 2.1?# |
| 17:33.17 | Haris1 | valdyn: I'v noticed in my transparent proxy setup, that tcp connections are .. randomely not accepted by this box |
| 17:33.26 | ick_ | Eulex: sda6 is the swap. I will change that in fstab. |
| 17:33.29 | Haris1 | valdyn: iptables redirecting part to squid doesn't work |
| 17:33.31 | unsolo_ | is there a manual on installing debian from other than debian distributions ? |
| 17:33.37 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 17:33.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, debootstrap is <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/debootstrap, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a <chroot>. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html, or see http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap, or key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System. See to the release specific Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide for more details. |
| 17:33.41 | Haris1 | valdyn: its as if the box never got that connection |
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| 17:33.44 | unsolo_ | thanks |
| 17:33.45 | valdyn | Haris1: netfilter issues? |
| 17:33.49 | Haris1 | valdyn: I checked with telnet |
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| 17:34.12 | ick_ | Eulex: swapon worked now. I assume it will work on boot now too. |
| 17:34.18 | Haris1 | valdyn: I'v been told, iptables only fiddles with kernel features to provide the service. There's nothing that is a problem in itself |
| 17:34.28 | Eulex | ick_, as long as it's in fstab. |
| 17:34.35 | ick_ | Eulex: free also reports there is a swap now |
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| 17:34.49 | valdyn | Haris1: it works fine here, 2.6.25-rc4 -> transparently proxied on a host running 2.6.25 |
| 17:34.53 | Eulex | Haris1, thus he said 'netfilter' which is the actual name of the firewall in the kernel |
| 17:35.44 | Haris1 | there is no netfilter package in debian |
| 17:35.58 | Haris1 | Eulex: valdyn: Are you suggesting an upgrade to iptables? |
| 17:36.02 | Eulex | ...because it is in the kernel |
| 17:36.04 | valdyn | Haris1: no |
| 17:36.14 | ick_ | Is it possible that having no swap caused X to crash? |
| 17:36.24 | valdyn | Haris1: what is the version of your iptables? |
| 17:36.24 | Haris1 | valdyn: I know tranparent proxy works. The issue is where it randomely doesn't accept connections .. or randomely tcp connections fail |
| 17:36.34 | valdyn | ick_: thats a silly question, ask what the real issue is |
| 17:36.45 | Haris1 | # iptables -V |
| 17:36.46 | Haris1 | iptables v1.3.6 |
| 17:36.58 | valdyn | Haris1: upgrade iptables afaik |
| 17:37.04 | Micha_Btz | valdyn: i search for opengl 2.1 support, the ati and the radeon driver seems to be only 1.3 |
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| 17:37.11 | valdyn | Haris1: at least you should for other reasons |
| 17:37.18 | Juanjo-sfe | hi |
| 17:37.26 | Haris1 | how does one upgrade a single package? |
| 17:37.28 | Juanjo-sfe | I have a mod_python package build agaisn pyton 2.4 |
| 17:37.37 | Juanjo-sfe | canI rebuild it to use 2.5? |
| 17:37.59 | ick_ | valdyn: I assume that giving the same input to a program returns the same. That doesn't happen. I give username and password to gdm then X crashes after a few seconds. Then I try it again, and it works. I had this situation two times now. |
| 17:38.00 | stew | Juanjo-sfe: not trivially |
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| 17:38.06 | stew | Haris1: aptitude install packagename |
| 17:38.10 | Eulex | Haris1, apt-get install it. assuming there is a newer version available for your debian branch. |
| 17:38.16 | ick_ | valdyn: I will see whether there is something in the logs. |
| 17:38.22 | Micha_Btz | valdyn: but i don't know how it is, only install a new lib for 2.1 or musst i rebuild the drivers? |
| 17:38.24 | Juanjo-sfe | stew: is the proccess documented anyplace? |
| 17:38.34 | valdyn | ick_: i do not think that is related to swap as 512 mb ram is sufficient to run X with gnome |
| 17:38.44 | valdyn | ick_: but, feel free to "dmesg" |
| 17:38.53 | Haris1 | I'm on etch r2 |
| 17:38.58 | Haris1 | can't say there's one |
| 17:39.00 | unsolo_ | so debbootstrap is a script ? |
| 17:39.03 | valdyn | ick_: or "dmesg | grep -i oom" |
| 17:39.07 | ick_ | valdyn: I got a backtrace. |
| 17:39.08 | Haris1 | I have backports, snapshot, unstable in sources |
| 17:39.10 | ick_ | valdyn: signal 11 |
| 17:39.18 | Haris1 | testing as well |
| 17:39.19 | valdyn | ick_: thats not useful |
| 17:39.28 | stew | Juanjo-sfe: i doubt it. you'd have to either repackage it yourself to speically build against python2.5 by changing the makefile used for building it, or you have to backport all of python from unstable |
| 17:39.34 | Haris1 | that's for deb-src though |
| 17:39.56 | ick_ | valdyn: pasting the backtrace would not be useful? |
| 17:40.09 | Haris1 | valdyn: Have you noticed random tcp connection fail for ipv4/6 |
| 17:40.18 | valdyn | ick_: signal 11 isnt, im not qualified to debug X from a backtrace |
| 17:40.25 | valdyn | Haris1: no |
| 17:40.28 | Haris1 | This happens even if there's one client behind it |
| 17:40.48 | valdyn | Haris1: i know that transparent proxieing does not work for all sites, but that is a year-old issue |
| 17:40.48 | Haris1 | this box's kernel is built with 8K FDs |
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| 17:40.55 | valdyn | s/year/years/ |
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| 17:41.14 | Juanjo-sfe | stew, we are using unstable |
| 17:41.20 | Juanjo-sfe | just 2 weeks old |
| 17:41.26 | Haris1 | valdyn: Again, its not transparent proxying that doesn't work. Its that tcp connections to/through the box fail at random |
| 17:41.54 | ick_ | valdyn: ok, thanks for your help. |
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| 17:42.13 | stew | Juanjo-sfe: then you should just need to make sure that libapache2-mod-python is the current version. python just switched from 2.4 to 2.5 very recently in unstable |
| 17:42.39 | Haris1 | I'v had many people look at my ifconfig; iptables-save; routing tables, but no one can find a problem anywhere. So what's left? -> the kernel |
| 17:42.47 | zshzn | lol |
| 17:42.51 | Haris1 | I'v changed NICs |
| 17:42.59 | Haris1 | I'v even changed between squid versions |
| 17:42.59 | Juanjo-sfe | stew, thanks |
| 17:43.04 | Haris1 | thus far, in vain |
| 17:43.07 | valdyn | Haris1: you really want someone to read the actual error, your network traffic |
| 17:43.20 | stew | Juanjo-sfe: 3.3.1-3+b1 should do it, the +b1 is becuase the package was recently built with 2.5 as the default python |
| 17:43.24 | zshzn | Haris1: if the kernel is so broken, why don't you go back to the 2.6.9 RHEL box that works? since that's apparently what you want |
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| 17:43.50 | Haris1 | zshzn: (Well, this is not constructive criticism. I'll let it pass) |
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| 17:44.00 | Haris1 | valdyn: hmm, how can I do it? |
| 17:44.08 | Haris1 | tcpdump can give me a clue? |
| 17:44.15 | valdyn | Haris1: and get the layering straight, tcp connections failing isnt a userspace issue |
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| 17:44.32 | Haris1 | valdyn: ..then? |
| 17:44.36 | Haris1 | valdyn: ..its kernel space? |
| 17:44.39 | valdyn | Haris1: unless you have a userspace program ( squid ) do something actively |
| 17:44.56 | Haris1 | valdyn: well, I'm not sure what it could be. I need a deeper look. |
| 17:45.00 | Haris1 | How can I do it |
| 17:45.02 | valdyn | Haris1: how should i know? you are only telling us "tcp connection issue", you're not giving the actual network traffic |
| 17:45.21 | Haris1 | valdyn: Network traffic? -> vpn, cvs, email, browsing, some ftp |
| 17:45.24 | abrotman | thinks ntop has some serious deficiencies detecting the OS |
| 17:45.35 | valdyn | Haris1: iows you just think that its "tcp connection failing", but you know nothing about it really |
| 17:45.48 | Haris1 | valdyn: Ok, tell me about it. |
| 17:46.08 | jetscreamer | my tcp connection fails... as i drive away :) |
| 17:46.35 | Haris1 | valdyn: Let me add, that I'v also noticed this when iptables was not redirecting traffic to squid and it was just accepting connections to be NAT'ted out |
| 17:46.49 | valdyn | Haris1: you noticed WHAT? |
| 17:46.53 | stew | Haris1: which part of the TCP handshake fails? |
| 17:47.00 | stew | Haris1: or is it after the handshake? |
| 17:47.15 | Haris1 | stew: ..how can I tell? tcpdump/wireshark? |
| 17:47.24 | stew | Haris1: yes |
| 17:47.30 | Haris1 | valdyn: Connection failure |
| 17:47.33 | Haris1 | stew: Let me check |
| 17:47.53 | stew | Haris1: what do you mean by "Connection failure"? |
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| 17:48.27 | Haris1 | stew: A sends telnet www.cnn.com 80 > B in path (transparent proxy) doesn't answer the call |
| 17:48.31 | Haris1 | story ends |
| 17:48.34 | Haris1 | connection timeout |
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| 17:48.47 | Haris1 | telnet+ connection timeout |
| 17:48.50 | lobak | hello there |
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| 17:49.18 | rvsjoen | hmm... anyone have suggestions when 90% of the processes go into <defunct> after rebooting ? :p |
| 17:49.19 | Haris1 | B is A's default gateway |
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| 17:49.22 | doki_pen | I want to create a debian package. what is the best way to setup a development box |
| 17:49.26 | stew | Haris1: sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't? |
| 17:49.28 | Haris1 | B has ip forwarding on |
| 17:49.41 | lobak | im currently using xfce 4.3..how can i update it to xfce 4.4?im using etch by the way |
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| 17:49.50 | Haris1 | stew: Yes. Some people are able to browse through it, yet others at the same time, aren't |
| 17:49.57 | jetx | crap... my tcp connection failed :) |
| 17:49.59 | doki_pen | does a default debian install contain all the tools i need? |
| 17:50.02 | pgpkeys | doki_pen - read the debian developers handbook, there's a bot entry for the order of the 3 books to read |
| 17:50.06 | pgpkeys | s/books/manuals/g |
| 17:50.15 | rvsjoen | I tried running an upgrade but ut trashed udev, and now I cant do anything with dpkg/apt becuse it crashes when trying to fix udev |
| 17:50.17 | jetx | should park in the next space |
| 17:50.19 | pgpkeys | stew - know the bot entry for that? |
| 17:50.26 | doki_pen | wow! I have to read 3 books just to make one package!! |
| 17:50.47 | pgpkeys | no, the debian developers handbook describes that |
| 17:50.53 | valdyn | doki_pen: why do you think that creating a package is ANYTHING remotely trivial? |
| 17:50.54 | doki_pen | ok, ty pgpkeys |
| 17:51.09 | pgpkeys | you asked how to set up a proper dev box in order TO make packages. |
| 17:51.22 | doki_pen | ok, don't get defensive, I'm just surprised |
| 17:51.28 | pgpkeys | and as a package creator you need to know exactly what and how Debian Project expects things |
| 17:51.39 | pgpkeys | err + done |
| 17:52.01 | abrotman | !mg |
| 17:52.01 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) lynx /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). Also ask me about <nmg>. 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
| 17:52.10 | stew | doki_pen: you should read the new maintainer's guide. /msg dpkg mg ; it is availbe as the "maint-guide" package, "apt-cache search maint-guide" it will tell you what additional tools you need |
| 17:52.19 | doki_pen | do you think it would be better for me to find a debian developer to maintain my package? |
| 17:52.31 | doki_pen | *try* |
| 17:52.32 | doki_pen | lol |
| 17:52.34 | abrotman | doki_pen: you can file an RFP if you think that would be better/easier |
| 17:52.39 | pgpkeys | doki_pen - nope. just things you need to learn first |
| 17:52.43 | stew | Haris1: and someone that is able to browse through it can browse through it consistently? and the people that can't will fail to browse through it consistently? |
| 17:53.02 | abrotman | doki_pen: but the RFPs are when a DD/DM thinks it is a worthy addition |
| 17:53.14 | abrotman | and/or has time |
| 17:53.16 | Haris1 | stew: 'consistently' ? No for short periods, random periods, from a few seconds, to hours |
| 17:53.44 | doki_pen | abrotman: but if I find a debian user, that is interested in my package, perhaps they would do the package maintanence |
| 17:53.50 | \amethyst | Haris1: have you tried looking at a packet dump to see what's happening when some people can't get through? |
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| 17:54.10 | doki_pen | it's a trac distribution for multi-projects geared towards consulting firms |
| 17:54.13 | stew | Haris1: so are there people that are never able to use the proxy? |
| 17:54.18 | stew | Haris1: are there people that are always able to use the proxy? |
| 17:54.18 | abrotman | doki_pen: that's another possibility |
| 17:54.26 | pgpkeys | doki_pen - /msg dpkg nmg for the book order I was talking about. (had to wait for abrotman to speak out the bot entry for one part so I could get you the one I was pushing to you |
| 17:54.26 | doki_pen | http://code.optaros.com/trac/oforge |
| 17:54.29 | pgpkeys | ) |
| 17:54.31 | Haris1 | stew: 'never' ? No |
| 17:54.42 | doki_pen | ok |
| 17:54.46 | abrotman | pgpkeys: eh? mg no? |
| 17:54.48 | doki_pen | I'll take a look. |
| 17:54.52 | pgpkeys | abrotman - nmg |
| 17:55.09 | abrotman | oh .. but mg has the walkthru |
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| 17:55.54 | pgpkeys | right. I didn't know either entry, but I knew there was an order to the *manuals* I'd referenced to him. |
| 17:56.02 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 17:56.05 | Haris1 | tcpdump -i eth0 -vv not tcp port 22 and host 192.168.0.21 <- I'm now checking for traffic from a specific box |
| 17:56.46 | Haris1 | stew: I'm sorry. Always, well, most of the people haven't complained. Today only 2 did |
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| 17:57.06 | pgpkeys | abrotman - which is the one to search for a specific entry? factinfo |
| 17:57.13 | Haris1 | WARNING: Short packet. Try increasing the snap length <- ? |
| 17:57.22 | pgpkeys | aka if I know a certain word is contained in an entry, how would I search that in the bot? |
| 17:57.26 | abrotman | pgpkeys: listkeys or listvals |
| 17:57.29 | pgpkeys | would make it easier for me to give info. |
| 17:57.30 | pgpkeys | thanks |
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| 17:57.37 | abrotman | pgpkeys: /msg dpkg help |
| 17:57.52 | pgpkeys | i did, I just couldn't remember which of the returned keywords was it |
| 17:58.04 | doki_pen | can any of you guys review my package when I'm done? |
| 17:58.07 | stew | pgpkeys: i have a webpage you can use for searching too: http://dpkg.vireo.org |
| 17:58.11 | Haris1 | How can I check tcp handshakes? |
| 17:58.15 | \amethyst | Haris1: that's just tcpdump telling you it didn't log enough stuff |
| 17:58.20 | pgpkeys | stew - that'd work too. thankis |
| 17:58.22 | abrotman | !tell doki_pen about mentors |
| 17:58.24 | stew | pgpkeys: abrotman still needs to enhance this page though |
| 17:58.25 | pgpkeys | err s/is/s/g |
| 17:58.25 | doki_pen | (or girls) |
| 17:58.31 | unixSnob | What does the debian netinst distro use as a download app? wget? |
| 17:58.32 | abrotman | stew: it really is partially done :) |
| 17:58.42 | abrotman | unixSnob: apt has its own downloader |
| 17:58.43 | \amethyst | Haris1: you can use tcpdump -s 200 to increase the amount logged per packet to 200 bytes (from the default of 68) |
| 17:59.01 | doki_pen | alright, ty peeps |
| 17:59.16 | abrotman | feels like a marshmallow |
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| 17:59.26 | unixSnob | abrotman: thanks... is it a robust one, that can handle a crappy 1xRTT connection that dies frequently? |
| 17:59.29 | Haris1 | \amethyst: Thankyou! |
| 17:59.30 | Haris1 | How can I check tcp handshakes? |
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| 17:59.57 | pgpkeys | hrmm. that page isn't returning anything. I used Maintainer (which is part of the word Maintainers obviously) and selecting Factoid Value and got nothing in return |
| 18:00.05 | unixSnob | i need to make sure it's persistent, and can resume from failures |
| 18:00.15 | pgpkeys | have to be an *exact* word match? |
| 18:00.18 | abrotman | unixSnob: it has the ability to resume if a download stops .. and has md5summing for the download to verify integrity |
| 18:00.24 | abrotman | pgpkeys: *search* |
| 18:00.30 | Haris1 | ? |
| 18:00.38 | stew | pgpkeys: http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=*Maintainer*&term=value |
| 18:00.47 | unixSnob | abrotman: thanks for the info! |
| 18:00.58 | pgpkeys | ahhh. so I need the wildcard |
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| 18:01.06 | stew | yeah, i should change that |
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| 18:01.19 | abrotman | pgpkeys: it tells you that |
| 18:01.27 | pgpkeys | yeah I was an idiot ;) |
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| 18:02.39 | stew | pgpkeys: http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=maintainer&term=value now works |
| 18:02.45 | unixSnob | downloading debian netinst now.. hoping apt's resume feature works non-interactively |
| 18:02.59 | pgpkeys | would be nice if the return was ordered alphabetically. too much to ask for? |
| 18:03.05 | abrotman | pgpkeys: that's the enxt version! |
| 18:03.07 | abrotman | next |
| 18:03.18 | Haris1 | ? |
| 18:03.19 | pgpkeys | nice :) |
| 18:03.22 | abrotman | stew: maybe i should add a defaulted checkbox to do a wild card search ? |
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| 18:03.38 | efaistos | do you know from where dh-make-perl is taking your email address ? |
| 18:03.42 | abrotman | maybe i should just finish it up and give it to stew already ... |
| 18:03.52 | pgpkeys | stew - thanks. wasn't necessary. twas my fault for glossing over the statement on the page about using the * but thanks for the quick ID10T management :) |
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| 18:04.15 | stew | pgpkeys: i do the same thing all the time, and i wrote it, so it clearly needed to be changed :) |
| 18:04.19 | pgpkeys | hehe |
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| 18:04.49 | pgpkeys | i like the page over the bot search directly though. more ordered on the return |
| 18:04.56 | stew | Haris1: read what a tcp 3 way handshake looks like (i'll give you a hint, there are three packets involved) see which of the three packets are sent |
| 18:04.58 | pgpkeys | not a visual data overload |
| 18:05.12 | Haris1 | stew: SYN, SYN_ACK and bla bla, right? |
| 18:05.21 | Haris1 | stew: The Q is how do I capture the moment? |
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| 18:05.32 | stew | Haris1: with tcpdump |
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| 18:06.19 | pgpkeys | doesn't netcat also show you the raw returns? |
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| 18:06.34 | pgpkeys | to interject for a moment :) |
| 18:06.35 | phycho | hi guys, does the debian unicorn package actually work? |
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| 18:06.43 | phycho | gives me nothing but compile errors with kernel 2.6.24 |
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| 18:07.44 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:08.12 | Haris1 | tcp-fin, tcp-syn, tcp-rst, tcp-push, tcp-ack, tcp-urg! |
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| 18:09.46 | n3kl | Anyone kow of a windows password cracker for linux? |
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| 18:09.59 | abrotman | vi? :) |
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| 18:11.12 | cahoot | vim |
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| 18:12.03 | n3kl | Something else. |
| 18:12.06 | remote | is it impossible to remount root with a different partition instead ? :) |
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| 18:12.39 | stew | remote: man pivot_root |
| 18:12.45 | salvin | abrotman, the windows password is clear? |
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| 18:13.02 | n3kl | salvin: no |
| 18:13.08 | abrotman | salvin: it was joke |
| 18:13.25 | Haris1 | tcpdump -i eth0 -vv not tcp port 22 and host 192.168.0.21 and 'tcp[tcpflags] & (tcp-syn|tcp-ack) == (tcp-syn|tcp-ack)' |
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| 18:13.35 | pgpkeys | abrotman - gonna have to start doing <joke></joke> hehe |
| 18:13.57 | Haris1 | is that the way? :p |
| 18:14.10 | hopecon | What's an easy to way to convert a directory of m4as to mp3? |
| 18:14.20 | Al-Khouli | Hi guys, i am trying to run this binary file and i am facing this error: "./lmgrd: relocation error: ./lmgrd: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference ". it seems that the program has been linked with a version of glibc older than 2.3. Newer versions of glibc no longer provide errno as a global variable to allow its thread-safe usage. How could i solve this problem ( I don't have the source code to |
| 18:14.20 | Al-Khouli | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.44 | n3kl | hopecon: man lame |
| 18:14.49 | balzac5000 | I've recently upgraded from sarge to etch and now my Dlink quad port network card won't come up - even though the tulip module is loading and the aliases file looks correct. Any clues? |
| 18:14.57 | pgpkeys | Al-Khouli - you'd need a package built against 2.3 then |
| 18:15.21 | Al-Khouli | pgpkeys, no other way? i can't get that package! |
| 18:15.22 | balzac5000 | ifconfig eth0 up gives me "No such device" |
| 18:15.23 | Kurt2x | how come after doing a dist-upgrade to sid, when I do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I am no longer asked about my video driver or my monitor? |
| 18:15.39 | stew | Kurt2x: becuase it detects it at runtime |
| 18:15.41 | pgpkeys | Al-Khouli - I don't believe there is. |
| 18:15.44 | Kurt2x | I was at lenny before |
| 18:15.47 | Eulex | Al-Khouli, you could run a linux distro with a sufficiently old glibc. |
| 18:15.55 | pgpkeys | abrotman - can you install multiple glibc versions S-by-S |
| 18:16.10 | remote | stew: using pivot_root, can I expect to have the ability of changing from one system's partitions to another one with success ? I understand some processes might be confused but don't care, my concern is more about the kernel related stuff |
| 18:16.21 | Eulex | Al-Khouli, perhaps a chroot would work |
| 18:16.24 | hopecon | balzac5000, dmesg|grep eth |
| 18:16.30 | Eulex | pgpkeys, no |
| 18:16.32 | pgpkeys | ok |
| 18:16.45 | Al-Khouli | Eulex, i don't get ur point |
| 18:17.03 | pgpkeys | thought you could pass a var on the make line to tell it to install to a different location like /usr/local allow that to take place |
| 18:17.03 | Eulex | Al-Khouli, do you know what a chroot is? |
| 18:17.11 | Al-Khouli | Eulex, yes |
| 18:17.34 | balzac5000 | hopecon: stand by - have to drop that to floppy... |
| 18:17.37 | stew | remote: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 18:18.24 | stew | remote: if you pivot to another root you'd no longer be able to load any kernel modules until you did soemthing to make the modules from the running kernel availble. (if i'm understanding what you are trying to do) |
| 18:18.24 | remote | use the currently running kernel with entirely different partitions |
| 18:18.34 | stew | remote: you can just chroot |
| 18:18.34 | pgpkeys | hrmm, I gotta find out wtf is causing firefox 2.0.0.14 to ask me for the master password 3 times before it takes it |
| 18:18.40 | stew | remote: man chroot |
| 18:18.54 | Eulex | Al-Khouli, perhaps try getting woody in a chroot with debootstrap. I don't know whether that has a libc6 that is old enough, though |
| 18:19.15 | n3kl | remote: are you trying to move the root? |
| 18:19.20 | remote | well, that was my first idea, only networking seems to be a pain and i'm thinking there might be problems for accessing other devices as well, like for running xorg |
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| 18:19.37 | stew | remote: why is netowrking a pain? |
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| 18:20.00 | remote | isn't it? |
| 18:20.05 | buggmaster | how to show the memory in system, dmesg outputs soem wierd crap lol |
| 18:20.11 | stew | remote: no? |
| 18:20.16 | remote | i get no /proc access, at least the chroot man page wasn't very informative |
| 18:20.21 | stew | buggmaster: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 18:20.24 | buggmaster | ty |
| 18:20.28 | balzac5000 | hopecon: http://www.pastebin.ca/992247 |
| 18:20.31 | stew | remote: mount /proc |
| 18:20.54 | stew | remote: you might want to --bind mount /dev into the chroot before chrooting, and also mount /sys |
| 18:20.54 | remote | . |
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| 18:21.44 | remote | --bind as in a chroot option? it doens't seem to exist |
| 18:21.57 | n3kl | remote: bind is a mount option |
| 18:22.01 | stew | remote: mount --bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev |
| 18:22.03 | remote | right sorry |
| 18:22.05 | balzac5000 | hopecon: here's the complete relevant dmesg info: http://www.pastebin.ca/992248 |
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| 18:25.00 | remote | thanks stew that was the best way to go for me |
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| 18:26.49 | limpio | hi, anybody knows an app that will give information about CPU, ram, etc that i can put on my taskbar? |
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| 18:28.13 | hoxu | limpio, gkrellm no good? |
| 18:28.22 | tarzeau | limpio: bubblefishymon |
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| 18:28.36 | balzac5000 | I've recently upgraded from sarge to etch and now my Dlink quad port network card won't come up - even though the tulip module is loading and the aliases file looks correct. Any clues? |
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| 18:29.17 | limpio | hoxu, thx, i want it to show on the taskbar... |
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| 18:29.44 | limpio | tarzeau, i'll check it |
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| 18:30.25 | brick_ijigg | isn't there a way to attempt upgrade of a single package past the version of the whole system? (i want to run gnuplot 4.2 on etch, but it's only in lenny/sid). |
| 18:30.29 | hoxu | tarzeau, uh... |
| 18:31.06 | tarzeau | !simple sid backport |
| 18:31.07 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. |
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| 18:31.46 | limpio | tarzeau, nope, the one i'm looking for is just plain text in the taskbar |
| 18:31.53 | unsolo_ | any other way that bootstrapping to get a livecd booted on a platform not yet supported by the etch livecd ? |
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| 18:32.24 | tarzeau | ustunozgur: what platform? |
| 18:32.34 | tarzeau | unsolo_: i meant you |
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| 18:32.46 | unsolo_ | its a amd64 dual core on a jetway 694 |
| 18:32.57 | unsolo_ | etch just pukes out on boot |
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| 18:33.02 | tarzeau | unsolo_: what live cd do you use? |
| 18:33.08 | unsolo_ | netinst |
| 18:33.12 | tarzeau | unsolo_: i have a livecd based on lenny that you could try? |
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| 18:33.23 | brick_ijigg | thanks tarzeau, reading up |
| 18:33.39 | unsolo_ | tarzeau: if it comes with a link fine |
| 18:33.44 | tarzeau | unsolo_: http://livecd.gnustep.org (even in 64bit linux version) |
| 18:33.50 | unsolo_ | but can i still isntall etch from that ? |
| 18:33.55 | tarzeau | unsolo_: yes sure |
| 18:34.07 | tarzeau | unsolo_: using cdebootstrap, there's even an install.txt linked on that page |
| 18:34.16 | tarzeau | just put etch in there where it says lenny or sid |
| 18:34.38 | jim_p | how can i install one and only package from etch? i use testing and the package is filezilla |
| 18:34.53 | tarzeau | jim_p: you download the .deb and say dpkg -i the.deb |
| 18:34.56 | twobitsp1ite | reprepro can't find my public key to import my package... do I need to put it in a reprepro config or something? I've looked all over the docs and they don't say anything about any key cludgery I have to do... |
| 18:35.12 | tarzeau | jim_p: if you're lucky it'll just work, otherwise get the source package from etch and build it for your testing |
| 18:35.44 | unsolo_ | err |
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| 18:35.49 | unsolo_ | wheres the cd image link |
| 18:35.51 | unsolo_ | iso ? |
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| 18:36.18 | jim_p | tarzeau: how can i "locate" that package in the repo? |
| 18:36.29 | asn | How can I add extra languages in kmail's spell checker? I tried installing my language's aspell/myspell package but it won't allow me to use it to spellcheck. |
| 18:36.39 | tarzeau | jim_p: via http://packages.debian.org or apt-cache search |
| 18:37.25 | unsolo_ | nothings easy |
| 18:37.29 | unsolo_ | sigh.. |
| 18:37.40 | LoRez | can vixie cron deal with multiple MAILTO's in a crontab? |
| 18:38.10 | hoxu | !be a debian barbie |
| 18:38.10 | dpkg | Aww, debian is HARD! Let's go shopping, hoxu |
| 18:38.13 | jim_p | tarzeau: no no. I need the .deb file, but where is it? |
| 18:39.21 | \amethyst | jim_p: search packages.debian.org for the package and you'll find a link |
| 18:39.39 | unsolo_ | hmm |
| 18:40.01 | unsolo_ | tarzeau: sorry for asking where is that livecd ? |
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| 18:40.07 | unsolo_ | i only see the gnustep one |
| 18:40.07 | protoloco | Hello, i will handle a mail server with 250 mail clients... what could be a good server to handle that? |
| 18:40.23 | unsolo_ | pentium 2 with 128 mb ram |
| 18:40.35 | pinto3 | there's an option to download only too, -d , then the .deb would be in /var i think |
| 18:40.56 | protoloco | unsolo_ are you talking to me ? |
| 18:41.06 | tarzeau | unsolo_: http://livecd.gnustep.org/ ? |
| 18:41.18 | tarzeau | unsolo_: you mean how to download it? |
| 18:41.18 | \amethyst | yes, in /var/cache/apt/archive |
| 18:41.23 | tarzeau | unsolo_: that IS the live cd? |
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| 18:41.34 | jim_p | \amethyst, tarzeau: thanks |
| 18:41.38 | tarzeau | unsolo_: it was built based on debian lenny with live-helper on a debian system (including only debian packages)? |
| 18:41.49 | unsolo_ | ahh |
| 18:42.03 | unsolo_ | i was looking for something small with a working kenel.. |
| 18:42.08 | unsolo_ | s/kenel/kernel |
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| 18:44.22 | balzac5000 | Can anyone think of a reason why a quad port network card would work fine under sarge but not under etch? |
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| 18:45.28 | balzac5000 | I've made sure the entires in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules are correct and the tulip module is loading correctly... |
| 18:46.31 | abrotman | argh .. 2.6 .. tulip |
| 18:47.39 | balzac5000 | abrotman: Is there a back story I'm missing here? |
| 18:47.52 | abrotman | i've had issues with 2.6 and tulip based cards |
| 18:48.01 | quentusrex | If I have dhcp3 deamon running on my router, how can I get a list of all the computers on the lan that requested dhcp ip addresses? |
| 18:48.34 | valdyn | quentusrex: /var/log/messages |
| 18:48.38 | balzac5000 | abrotman: Hmm. I've got for quad-port cards that worked great under 2.4.27 |
| 18:48.51 | quentusrex | thanks valdyn |
| 18:49.18 | valdyn | quentusrex: or /var/lib/dhcp3/dhcpd.leases* |
| 18:49.50 | quentusrex | wow, awesome |
| 18:50.08 | quentusrex | thanks again valdyn |
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| 18:51.02 | abrotman | balzac5000: yeah .. kind of the same thing i had .. i had a bunch of DEC tulip/de4x5 that worked great on woody/2.4 sarge/sometimes 2.6 sarge .. basically useless in etch .. i'll send you mine if you want them :) |
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| 18:51.23 | abrotman | balzac5000: and no .. i don't know why, never cared enough to really investigate |
| 18:51.37 | abrotman | mine weren't 4port, so it was just easier to replace them with something else |
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| 18:53.50 | balzac5000 | abrotman: You funny. =8^) Well, I'll keep picking at this and make a blog post somewhere if the answer becomes obvious. Hard to believe the 2.6 kernel would trash this kind of card wholesale... |
| 18:53.55 | roh | balzac5000 take a look if the sun-gem quadport cards work. if not, update to something with 2.6 |
| 18:54.37 | roh | personally i dunno anybody running 2.4 anymore seriously and maintained |
| 18:54.44 | quentusrex | I'm trying to write an init.d script, but it currently isn't working. I have started with the skeleton. Currently I can't get the program to run properly. What is the best way to debug the issue? such as a test command? |
| 18:55.00 | balzac5000 | roh: Well, I'm *trying* to run the 2.6 transitional kernel in etch. And I appreciate the suggestion but that's not really an option with four servers each having D-Link DFE-570TX cards in them... |
| 18:56.03 | roh | balzac5000 the cards are great. dec tulip is imho one of the best 100mbit nics (besides e100) but there are zillions of similar, yet different layouts |
| 18:56.09 | balzac5000 | abrotman: What's bizarre is that both Ubuntu and CentOS are all happy with the card... |
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| 18:56.27 | roh | balzac5000 do you have a kernel which works well with it? if yes, diffing out where it broke is a better chance |
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| 18:56.32 | abrotman | balzac5000: you could try the 2.6.24 etch kernels (not officially supported, yet) |
| 18:56.52 | abrotman | balzac5000: does the box have network currently? |
| 18:57.00 | balzac5000 | roh: seems the placement of the EEPROM chip on the card at least *used* to make a difference and one could pass a "reverse_probe" to the modules |
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| 18:57.28 | balzac5000 | abrotman: No net on the box right now and after the conversion from 2.4 of course that won't boot now |
| 18:57.34 | roh | eeprom for mac addresses? |
| 18:57.48 | balzac5000 | roh: http://www.pastebin.ca/992248 |
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| 18:58.11 | asperon | hi guys, i am getting "too many iterations (6) in |
| 18:58.11 | asperon | > nv_nic_irq. |
| 18:58.22 | balzac5000 | abrotman: I may tank this drive and do an fresh install of etch just to see how IT deals with it out of the upgrade process |
| 18:58.23 | asperon | and then my network starts actiing up |
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| 18:58.53 | asperon | i read somewhere that i can feed max_interrupt_work=15 as an option to the forcedeth driver, where would i add this option? |
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| 19:00.05 | xbeanx | Can I use dpkg to get a list of packages that have been removed but have lingering config files on my system? |
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| 19:00.40 | roh | asperon add 'options quickcam max_interrupt_work=15' to /etc/modprobe.d/options |
| 19:01.03 | roh | eh sorry.. s/quickcam/forcedeth/ |
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| 19:01.48 | asperon | roh: ok, done, now i reload the module with modprobe, or? |
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| 19:02.19 | stew | xbeanx: dpkg -l | grep ^.c |
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| 19:02.42 | asperon | roh: or do i need to reboot? |
| 19:03.00 | abrotman | balzac5000: there are unofficial etch netinst ISOs with newer kernels |
| 19:03.14 | abrotman | balzac5000: you could download one and use it to upgrade the kernel |
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| 19:04.56 | xbeanx | thx stew |
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| 19:05.35 | asperon | roh? |
| 19:05.43 | roh | asperon reload the module and see if it helps |
| 19:06.08 | balzac5000 | abrotman: Hmm. Good idea! I actually downloaded one of those a few weeks ago - thanks! |
| 19:06.19 | roh | asperon modprobe -r forcedeth && modprobe forcedeth |
| 19:07.11 | asperon | well, that killed the nic atleast, ill go over there and have a look :) |
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| 19:12.22 | asperon | roh: well, cant really say that it helped, any way to make sure that it took the option? |
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| 19:13.24 | abrotman | balzac5000: it may have been updated since then .. it would have a .24 kernel now |
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| 19:14.00 | balzac5000 | abrotman: You're definitely right on that one. I appreciate the tip! |
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| 19:15.24 | davis | any reason why i don't have the man page for "init_module" routine? |
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| 19:15.59 | abrotman | davis: manpages-dev installed? |
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| 19:16.06 | davis | i think so, let me check. |
| 19:16.39 | davis | yes, its installed |
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| 19:17.45 | abrotman | davis: is modutils installed ? |
| 19:17.47 | themill | davis: it's in modutils |
| 19:17.59 | themill | modutils: usr/share/man/man2/init_module.2.gz |
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| 19:18.30 | davis | ok. I don't have that installed. |
| 19:18.51 | davis | is module-init-tools the 2.6 kernel tools and modutils is the 2.4 kernel tools? |
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| 19:20.15 | keith4 | is there a tgz'd base system anywhere that I can use for serving diskless clients? or is there an easy way to tell debian "install a fresh net-inst in /export/diskless/" ? |
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| 19:20.36 | Eulex | keith4, debootstrap? |
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| 19:21.33 | themill | keith4: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/559 |
| 19:21.35 | arussel | I got a shell (I am using zsh question): I got lines like "Changed Author bob". |
| 19:21.42 | keith4 | thank you, sirs |
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| 19:21.49 | arussel | With the author being different from line to line. |
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| 19:22.17 | arussel | I want to know how many times (in how many lines there is bob), how can I do that ? |
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| 19:22.44 | zyx386 | what is recommended aptitude or apt-get to install the programme ? |
| 19:23.08 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 19:23.08 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info |
| 19:23.31 | stew | arussel: fgrep -c "Changed Author bob" |
| 19:24.09 | zyx386 | /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README |
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| 19:24.56 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 19:25.02 | arussel | stew: sorry, I didn't ask my question well. The author are different, I want to know how many lines per author. |
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| 19:25.31 | Mazingaro | hi, please I got this problem with xine: X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) |
| 19:25.31 | abrotman | arussel: can you give us a sample line ? |
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| 19:26.01 | arussel | "Last Changed Author: arussel" (it is grep from svn info command) |
| 19:26.09 | abrotman | cat file | awk '{print $4}' | sort | uniq -c |
| 19:26.52 | abrotman | i guess you can just awk the file instead of catting it |
| 19:27.20 | arussel | abrotman: thanks a lot, I always think I need to learn awk. |
| 19:27.20 | JyZyXEL | where do i see all the supported processor architechtures |
| 19:27.23 | JyZyXEL | by linux |
| 19:27.29 | abrotman | arussel: at least the basics |
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| 19:27.37 | themill | hands abrotman the useless use of cat award |
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| 19:27.44 | Tomsik | hi |
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| 19:27.53 | stew | and an off-by-one award |
| 19:28.00 | themill | :) |
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| 19:28.08 | Tomsik | I'm trying to install debian from netinst cd |
| 19:28.11 | abrotman | it wasn't off by one |
| 19:28.21 | Tomsik | but installer says it couldn't find the hdd |
| 19:28.36 | abrotman | awk starts counting at 1 .. separated by " " .. it was $4 |
| 19:29.03 | Tomsik | the drive is a hitachi SATA HDP725025GLA380 |
| 19:29.17 | stew | abrotman: echo "Changed Author bob" | awk '{print $4}' |
| 19:29.18 | JyZyXEL | linux support ARM11? |
| 19:29.21 | abrotman | !tell Tomsik about kmuto |
| 19:29.24 | abrotman | stew: see his sample line |
| 19:29.40 | dondelelcaro | you really want awk -F': ' '{print $2}'; though. |
| 19:29.43 | abrotman | !tell JyZyXEL about ports |
| 19:29.44 | JyZyXEL | !arm11 |
| 19:29.48 | Tomsik | I've tried to use few of the drivers on the list |
| 19:29.57 | stew | oh, i just saw: I got lines like "Changed Author bob" |
| 19:30.01 | JyZyXEL | ?? |
| 19:30.04 | Tomsik | but none of them worked(including all starting with "sata_") |
| 19:30.05 | themill | abrotman: this one: [20:21] <arussel> I got a shell (I am using zsh question): I got lines like "Changed Author bob". |
| 19:30.07 | JyZyXEL | !tell JyZyXEL about arm11 |
| 19:30.11 | abrotman | themill: see his sample! |
| 19:30.14 | JyZyXEL | damn u bot! |
| 19:30.16 | themill | abrotman: heh ;) |
| 19:30.58 | hoxu | !rack abrotman |
| 19:30.58 | dpkg | pushes a server rack slightly and makes it fall on abrotman leaving a large wet spot |
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| 19:32.40 | rcbarnes | Does anyone else using lenny (fully up-to-date) have issues with massive instability of iceweasel? I sometimes get crashes within two or three page opens (and this is with all extensions disabled). |
| 19:33.07 | arussel | abrotman: you were right on. thanks again :-) |
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| 19:33.57 | themill | !win abrotman |
| 19:33.57 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 19:34.04 | abrotman | and you all thought i was crazy! |
| 19:34.11 | nascentmind | hi... in debian my laptop seems t heat up.. is there any way i can lower it? |
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| 19:34.34 | Nurulwai | Hey, why do you guys have a boner for exim? |
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| 19:34.49 | Nyle | rcbarnes, check the bts on iceweasel |
| 19:34.57 | abrotman | Nurulwai: what's your real question? |
| 19:35.19 | Nyle | Nurulwai, you can have a boner for whatever you want. you dont have to use exim |
| 19:35.51 | Nurulwai | Well you try and get procmail or some shit and it goes HEY DUDE YOU WANT EXIM RIGHT |
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| 19:36.07 | Nurulwai | So fuck that noise try maildrop HEY DUDE EXIM IS REALLY GREAT OKAY |
| 19:36.08 | abrotman | that's not a question |
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| 19:36.22 | Nurulwai | How do I say "no fuck off install what I fucking asked for"" to apt? |
| 19:36.30 | abrotman | it is installing what you asked for |
| 19:36.43 | Nyle | and you really don't have to bitch.. you could ask... "how do I use X instead of Y" |
| 19:36.46 | nascentmind | anybody? |
| 19:36.46 | Nyle | or something |
| 19:36.48 | roh | asperon does it print anything sensible? |
| 19:36.58 | Nurulwai | No it popped a boner and wanted to install exim |
| 19:36.59 | abrotman | nascentmind: acpi shouhld turn on the fans |
| 19:37.00 | Symbi0nt | Hi there, can someone recommand a tool/util what is like webmail or so? Something I can (mostly) easy install and I can create email accounts and so forth? |
| 19:37.02 | stew | Nurulwai: please lose the caps and try to keep it more constructive. if you want a different MTA other than exim, just install it, for instance, "apt-get install maildrop postfix" |
| 19:37.04 | themill | Nurulwai: please stop shouting and swearing and ask a carefully worded question. Pastebin the output of your apt-get session would help. |
| 19:37.09 | abrotman | Nurulwai: ask a question like a normal person |
| 19:37.13 | roh | asperon with forcedeth people are mostly happy if it works at all.. crappy undocumented nvidia shit |
| 19:37.18 | nascentmind | abrotman, but does acpi screw up the hard disk? |
| 19:37.23 | abrotman | screw up? |
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| 19:37.35 | abrotman | (is this that ubuntu kills my HDD thing?) |
| 19:37.40 | nascentmind | abrotman, yes |
| 19:37.48 | Nyle | roh, what is undocumented? |
| 19:37.52 | abrotman | nascentmind: NFC .. my HDD is still working fine |
| 19:38.00 | roh | Nyle nvidia hw in general. |
| 19:38.12 | Nyle | roh, but what specifically |
| 19:38.13 | roh | abrotman ubuntu doesnt kill your hdd.. neither does debian. |
| 19:38.21 | abrotman | roh: i'm aware of that .. |
| 19:38.23 | nascentmind | abrotman, are you sure? |
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| 19:38.27 | roh | they just do not touch power-settings for the disk if not told to. |
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| 19:38.29 | abrotman | nascentmind: am i sure my HDD still works? |
| 19:38.46 | nascentmind | no.. that on others hdd it works fine. |
| 19:39.03 | meng_ | when i modprobe the e1000 driver and it returns invalid checksum information. What is wrong? |
| 19:39.14 | themill | Nyle: nvidia network cards often need interesting incantations to get them to work. For example, some will come up with a different MAC address each time you modprobe. |
| 19:39.17 | abrotman | it hasn't killed my laptop HDD yet .. and it's been running some variation of debian for years |
| 19:39.18 | Nurulwai | I don't want a damn mailserver. I'm using getmail to grab my shit from a pop3 server, dovecot to give me a nice imap interface to what it grabs. All I'm after is a way to filter my shit without a 10-foot exim boner getting in the way. |
| 19:39.27 | roh | meng_ thinkpad? |
| 19:39.32 | nascentmind | abrotman, oh k |
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| 19:39.57 | meng_ | no, 1u server |
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| 19:40.12 | themill | Nurulwai: You have failed once again to ask your question sensibly and maturely and we are still struggling to work out what you are really trying to do as a result. |
| 19:40.25 | meng_ | it was work before until i replaced the mobo. |
| 19:40.33 | azeem_ | Nurulwai: so don't install the Recommends: |
| 19:40.41 | Nurulwai | it's not a sodding reccomends |
| 19:40.58 | stew | Nurulwai: it is a recommends, "apt-cache show procmail" |
| 19:40.59 | Eulex | Nurulwai, but it is. |
| 19:41.34 | Nurulwai | Then wheres the "no fuck off" button? |
| 19:41.38 | themill | Nurulwai: Enough with the passive-aggressive stuff too. All you are doing is putting people off from helping you. |
| 19:41.45 | stew | Nurulwai: please use less emotive speach |
| 19:41.46 | azeem | Nurulwai: please keep it on topic |
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| 19:41.52 | abrotman | button? |
| 19:42.34 | Nurulwai | As in, what do I push to say "just install what I asked for" |
| 19:42.44 | azeem | Nurulwai: what program are you using? |
| 19:42.52 | abrotman | to install |
| 19:42.54 | Nurulwai | apt-get. |
| 19:43.03 | azeem | Nurulwai: please understand that Debian tries to protect you from being too stupid |
| 19:43.11 | azeem | Nurulwai: man apt.conf |
| 19:43.12 | \amethyst | Nurulwai: does getmail use your .procmailrc ? |
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| 19:43.44 | zyx386 | !wlan |
| 19:43.44 | dpkg | [wlan] Wireless LAN, or see <wlan-ng>, or <wireless> |
| 19:43.47 | Nurulwai | \amethyst: I can throw my shit through procmail from getmail and it'll dump it in the right maildir when it's finished filtering it. |
| 19:43.56 | abrotman | Nurulwai: stop with the cursing |
| 19:44.01 | zyx386 | wlan-ng |
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| 19:44.05 | gutz|work | hello |
| 19:44.06 | azeem | Nurulwai: or try apt-get install procmail nullmailer; apt-get remove nullmailer |
| 19:44.07 | \amethyst | Nurulwai: you might want to look at, e.g, junkfilter |
| 19:44.19 | unsolo_ | so gentoo cd booted on this to become a debian box amd64 thing |
| 19:44.20 | zyx386 | !wlan-ng |
| 19:44.21 | dpkg | methinks linux-wlan-ng is an opensource module for wireless LAN cards which can be found at http://www.linux-wlan.org, or ask me about <linux-wlan-ng install>. http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz |
| 19:44.28 | gutz|work | i want to compile my own mail server on debian. how can i remova the packaged one then tell dpkg that i have a mail server isntalled but not to install over it |
| 19:44.32 | themill | !tell zyx386 about msg the bot |
| 19:44.56 | abrotman | !tell gutz|work about equivs |
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| 19:45.51 | zyx386 | ok, how can active my wireless? |
| 19:46.07 | \amethyst | Nurulwai: you can also call e.g. spamassassin from your procmailrc |
| 19:47.00 | \amethyst | Nurulwai: and there are filtering POP3 and/or IMAP clients and/or proxies like mailfilter and spambayes |
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| 19:47.14 | Nurulwai | \amethyst: Not too fussed about spamfilterage - I'm pretty lucky and get sod all, just sorting mail from x into directory y. Thanks all the same though. :-) |
| 19:47.35 | \amethyst | Nurulwai: oh, then procmail is perfect |
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| 19:48.40 | tclineks | can screen automatically cycle through windows? |
| 19:48.44 | Nurulwai | The pop3 server I grab my shit from has a pretty good spamfilter tacked onto it, I just want to imap it so I'm not lugging mail around on a laptop that I'll probably drop or stand on or otherwise break. |
| 19:48.57 | Nurulwai | \amethyst: Ta muchly, you've been rather helpful. As have you, azeem. |
| 19:49.06 | zenwryly | I'm trying to install some cmmi software for which I can't find a deb. I know I found some easy documentation for making a deb from a source distro before, but now I can't find it. The only things I'm finding are oriented towards debian maintainers. Any hints? |
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| 19:49.53 | \amethyst | zenwryly: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make are the basic steps for debianizing a package |
| 19:50.40 | zenwryly | \amethyst: yeah, I found that, but I thought I'd found something else previously |
| 19:50.46 | zenwryly | oh well :) |
| 19:50.53 | zyx386 | how to active wireless in debian? |
| 19:51.19 | stew | zyx386: which wireless card do you have? |
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| 19:51.31 | zyx386 | 43xx stew |
| 19:51.41 | themill | zenwryly: perhaps you're looking for something like checkinstall? |
| 19:52.31 | stew | zyx386: /msg dpkg bcm43xx |
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| 19:52.55 | stew | zyx386: after you get the driver + firmware working, you'll want to install the wireless-tools package and man wireless ; man interfaces |
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| 19:54.18 | zyx386 | stew, thanx, but that is'nt new for me |
| 19:54.26 | daft_ | is there an apt-get remove <package> that leaves my system quite basic again? (im running debian sid after 5 years is kinda bloated) |
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| 19:55.01 | zenwryly | themill: I'll look into that |
| 19:55.21 | stew | zyx386: why not? |
| 19:55.55 | stew | daft_: i'd recommend trying debfoster, or using the aptitude frontend |
| 19:55.59 | themill | daft_: not really. but deborphan and debfoster might help clean up unneeded libraries. You could also look for any packages in the "locally installed/obsolete" section in aptitude |
| 19:56.08 | zyx386 | because that not answer that is all info about wireless, i will install how to! |
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| 19:56.26 | zenwryly | themill: awesome! thanks |
| 19:56.27 | stew | zyx386: then install wireless-tools and "man wireless " |
| 19:56.31 | daft_ | :o aptitude front end. never tought about that -O_ |
| 19:56.36 | \amethyst | daft_: maybe aptitude purge ~poptional ~pextra |
| 19:57.02 | \amethyst | daft_: that removes all packages with priority 'optional' or 'extra' |
| 19:57.06 | themill | zenwryly: it's handy for hacky one-off packages. But it doesn't do dependencies well. It's also not in etch. |
| 19:57.21 | \amethyst | daft_: note: that includes Gnome, X, etc. |
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| 19:57.49 | sls_ | I am using apt cacher, but how do I get debian to use it? I have added the: d-i mirror/http/hostname string http://10.0.0.202:3142 |
| 19:57.57 | zyx386 | stew, is no package with wireless-tools |
| 19:58.02 | daft_ | yea i tought of that |
| 19:58.11 | stew | zyx386: are you running debian? |
| 19:58.30 | zyx386 | yes Lenny |
| 19:58.31 | sls_ | But the /var/log/apt-cacher/access.log is empty |
| 19:58.37 | stew | !find wireless-tools lenny |
| 19:58.38 | sls_ | help |
| 19:58.40 | daft_ | but i apt-get installed toyed around with sid for like 5 years now. (never had a reinstall) |
| 19:58.44 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'wireless-tools' (1): (/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools, /etc/network/if-post-down.d/wireless-tools) in net/wireless-tools. |
| 19:59.02 | themill | !info wireless-tools lenny |
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| 19:59.04 | \amethyst | zyx386: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/wireless-tools |
| 19:59.04 | stew | zyx386: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" |
| 19:59.09 | dpkg | wireless-tools: (Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions), section net, is optional. Version: 29-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 256 kB |
| 19:59.15 | stew | zyx386: use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 19:59.46 | daft_ | \amethyst, that will keep my /etc/ files right |
| 19:59.50 | daft_ | :o purge nm |
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| 20:00.15 | \amethyst | daft_: yeah, use remove rather than purge if you want to keep them |
| 20:00.28 | zyx386 | stew, i install the wireless-tools but man-wireless i find any package! |
| 20:00.50 | stew | zyx386: run this command "man wireless" |
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| 20:01.13 | zyx386 | and! |
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| 20:01.45 | stew | zyx386: and read it |
| 20:01.51 | daft_ | well echo "aptitude purge ~poptional ~pextra" >> /dev/tty1 and go to console and see what hapes |
| 20:02.11 | zyx386 | stew, is debian 3.0 this info |
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| 20:02.28 | stew | zyx386: you are running debian 3.0? |
| 20:02.38 | zyx386 | no lenny |
| 20:02.41 | unsolo_ | hmm |
| 20:02.50 | stew | zyx386: i dont' understand your question then |
| 20:02.55 | unsolo_ | what do i do when the gnustep graphical didnt show up on the display |
| 20:03.00 | unsolo_ | and the console is useless |
| 20:03.21 | zyx386 | stew, the info in man wireless is about debian 3.0 not Lenny |
| 20:03.22 | stew | unsolo_: how did you try to start gnustep? |
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| 20:03.29 | unsolo_ | enter.. |
| 20:03.39 | unsolo_ | maybe i should choose options |
| 20:03.44 | unsolo_ | does it support raid in the kernel |
| 20:03.47 | unsolo_ | md raid |
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| 20:03.52 | daft_ | \amethyst, 3GB data but no yes do as i say so i think it will work out |
| 20:03.53 | peleg | I have installed a new font - a hebrew font, and since then my Firefox shows all hebrew sites in that font. that font is not readable, really, so I can't read hebrew on most of the hebrew websites now. uninstalling the font will repair the situation; but I need that font. how can I force firefox to use another font by default, and not this font? |
| 20:03.55 | stew | zyx386: it applies to lenny as well |
| 20:04.29 | stew | unsolo_: how did you try to start gnustep? did you run "startx" from a commandline? did you login to a graphical login? |
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| 20:04.55 | zyx386 | stew, thanx that is not new for me to, i chose the how to install or active |
| 20:04.58 | zyx386 | thanx |
| 20:05.23 | valdyn | peleg: you need that font even though you cant read that font? how does that make sense? |
| 20:05.23 | \amethyst | peleg: edit->preferences, Content, Fonts&Colors->Advanced, select Hebrew from the drop-down list, then pick your fonts |
| 20:05.58 | \amethyst | valdyn: it's probably a display font---designed for headings, etc rather than blocks of text |
| 20:06.02 | msan | Whats the best way to search for directories and files with spaces in their names and to change the spaces to an underscore ? |
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| 20:06.14 | vjoe | hello |
| 20:06.15 | \amethyst | msan: on an entire directory tree? |
| 20:06.27 | unsolo_ | stew: just booted the cd |
| 20:06.30 | msan | \amethyst: yes |
| 20:06.33 | stew | unsolo_: which cd? |
| 20:06.34 | justin | msan: with the rename program |
| 20:06.42 | unsolo_ | the amd64 gnustep cd |
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| 20:06.51 | stew | msan: find /parentdirectory -name \*\ \* -print0 | xargs -0 rename 's/ /_/g' |
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| 20:07.13 | \amethyst | msan: find directory -depth -exec sh -c 'mv "$1" "${1// /_}"' -- {} \; |
| 20:07.27 | unsolo_ | http://livecd.gnustep.org/ |
| 20:07.27 | \amethyst | oh right |
| 20:07.32 | \amethyst | I forgot the -name '* *' |
| 20:07.33 | keith4 | how do I call a ircop to a channel? (not this one) |
| 20:07.33 | stew | unsolo_: wrong channel. you should find a channel specific to whatever distribution you are running |
| 20:07.54 | stew | keith4: please ask in #freenode for help with the network or "/stats p" to find an on-duty staff member |
| 20:08.02 | keith4 | stew: thanks |
| 20:08.10 | \amethyst | stew: someone here told him to use that |
| 20:08.34 | \amethyst | stew: tarzeau I think |
| 20:08.35 | unsolo_ | stew: im trying to install debian |
| 20:08.36 | stew | \amethyst: ok |
| 20:08.40 | unsolo_ | etch livecd is to outdated |
| 20:08.55 | unsolo_ | so someone suggested using the above |
| 20:09.04 | stew | unsolo_: someone gave you bad advice |
| 20:09.12 | unsolo_ | stew: thats also possible |
| 20:09.16 | unsolo_ | so whats a good advice |
| 20:09.23 | stew | unsolo_: did you try one of the kmuto cds? |
| 20:09.52 | unsolo_ | gentoo boots fine to console.. im happy with that if i can simply fetch a bootstrap script from somewhere.. |
| 20:10.37 | \amethyst | unsolo_: isn't debootstrap available for gentoo? |
| 20:10.41 | \amethyst | http://packages.gentoo.org/package/dev-util/debootstrap |
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| 20:10.42 | stew | unsolo_: yes, afaik, gentoo includes debootstrap. however installing with debootstrap requires doing a lot by hand. you'd be better off using a debian installer |
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| 20:11.09 | unsolo_ | stew: well i already made a load of raid devices by hand |
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| 20:11.18 | unsolo_ | is there a lot more to it as well |
| 20:11.49 | unsolo_ | its not a ill fetch you a minimal running debian system then you chroot in and do the rest type of scripts |
| 20:11.54 | unsolo_ | ? |
| 20:11.56 | stew | unsolo_: off the top of my head, you have to setup /etc/fstab /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/netowrk/interfaces /etc/hostname |
| 20:12.08 | unsolo_ | thats not an issue |
| 20:12.13 | stew | unsolo_: and you have to install a kernel, and a bootloader |
| 20:12.39 | unsolo_ | not an issue either as the debian installer doesnt install grub to all the raid mirrors by default |
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| 20:13.16 | unsolo_ | so i have to do that il manual anyways. |
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| 20:14.11 | stew | unsolo_: have you tried a kmuto image? |
| 20:14.29 | unsolo_ | no |
| 20:14.44 | stew | unsolo_: that would be our recommendation. /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 20:14.57 | zyx386 | stew i nstall the bcm43xx-fwcutter package but i can't active my wireless |
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| 20:15.17 | stew | zyx386: why not? |
| 20:15.32 | n3kl | Here is thre freaking question. How do you move into a job that require s credentials that you don't have the time to study for? |
| 20:15.55 | lostson | like most ppl at my company just lie |
| 20:16.05 | lostson | then get them after you already have the job |
| 20:16.17 | n3kl | lostson: I hate when pelple come work with me and they have lied on their resume though |
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| 20:16.32 | zyx386 | stew, i do'nt know, why? |
| 20:16.37 | \amethyst | n3kl: find a job that requires fewer credentials |
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| 20:16.59 | \amethyst | n3kl: then use the money you make in that job to pay for your studies and credentials |
| 20:17.10 | nkuttler_ | n3kl: find a company that is serious about their business... |
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| 20:17.15 | n3kl | \amethyst: yeah =| |
| 20:17.18 | unsolo_ | stew: thanks |
| 20:17.24 | unsolo_ | that should make it easier |
| 20:17.26 | unsolo_ | ;) |
| 20:17.32 | Haris | stew: \amethyst: valdyn: I'm getting nothing in tcpdump's ( tcpdump -i eth0 -vv not tcp port 22 and host 192.168.0.244 and 'tcp[tcpflags] & (tcp-syn|tcp-ack) == (tcp-syn|tcp-ack)' ) output when I load one URL right now |
| 20:17.36 | n3kl | Anyone do system admin on debian for a living? |
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| 20:17.49 | zamuroff | n3kl: I am |
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| 20:18.07 | zamuroff | I do** |
| 20:18.26 | n3kl | Tips for getting into the field? |
| 20:18.32 | runa | hey :) I have an ext3 FS with around 100k files. do you have any tips for me? |
| 20:18.38 | zyx386 | stew, help |
| 20:18.41 | zyx386 | :( |
| 20:18.49 | flalateepaot | I'm having trouble using the ascii art library with mplayer in console --- testing --- any help? |
| 20:18.56 | Bushmills | runa, yes. backup it periodically |
| 20:19.13 | runa | Bushmills: :) something else? what about the dir_index opt in ext3? |
| 20:19.18 | unsolo_ | btw when is lenny coming out ? |
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| 20:19.50 | Bushmills | runa, don't bang the hard disk against the wall |
| 20:19.57 | streuner | unsolo_: wir |
| 20:20.05 | flalateepaot | when i run 'mplayer -vo aa' i get Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. |
| 20:20.08 | unsolo_ | = |
| 20:20.11 | stew | zyx386: what is the problem? |
| 20:20.13 | unsolo_ | ? |
| 20:20.17 | streuner | !wir |
| 20:20.18 | dpkg | i guess wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 20:20.23 | Haris | sorry, this instance is invalid for it |
| 20:20.25 | ron-e | I have just finished an upgrade from sarge -> etch. What's the debian way of updating /vmlinuz, /initrd and /etc/lilo.conf? 'dpkg-reconfigure lilo' doesn't do it. |
| 20:20.30 | stew | unsolo_: when the number of RC bugs is zero: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical |
| 20:20.36 | unsolo_ | ok |
| 20:20.45 | Bushmills | runa, and, find some more files to put on that it won't be that sparsely populated :) |
| 20:20.48 | unsolo_ | well i guess since this is a big mail server |
| 20:20.50 | zyx386 | stew, i install all, but i can't active the wirless |
| 20:20.52 | unsolo_ | i should stick to etch |
| 20:20.55 | stew | zyx386: why not? |
| 20:21.13 | \amethyst | n3kl: find a small business with computer problems who could use debian, convince them that Debian will solve their problems, and that you can set it up for them. Use their positive recommendations from the experience to find more, similar business |
| 20:21.16 | stew | unsolo_: you should definately stick to stable for a mailserver |
| 20:21.18 | unsolo_ | its actually one of two clustered mail servers.. |
| 20:21.33 | stew | Haris: what is 192.168.0.244? |
| 20:21.40 | zyx386 | stew, i press the wlan button on my laptop, but is unactive |
| 20:21.42 | unsolo_ | so as the etch guides are there i should use that for what it is worth :) |
| 20:21.54 | stew | zyx386: did you load the driver for your card? |
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| 20:22.07 | zyx386 | wich driver? |
| 20:22.14 | Haris | stew: A box on lan behind the debian box |
| 20:22.26 | zyx386 | stew, i install this bcm43xx-fwcutter |
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| 20:22.54 | stew | zyx386: i don't know which driver. i would have thought bcm43xx, but you said that it is not for you, so i don't know |
| 20:23.00 | stew | Haris: a lan that is making a request? |
| 20:23.27 | zyx386 | bcm43xx, is my wireless, but wich driver? stew |
| 20:23.40 | n3kl | \amethyst: good stragety. Looking through dice right now in my area, but all the jobs look like they need ccna and all that. I have the skills, but no papers. Lovely job market. Welcome to the real world huh. |
| 20:23.42 | stew | zyx386: i don't know which driver. i would have thought bcm43xx, but you said that it is not for you, so i don't know |
| 20:23.56 | Haris | stew: A (on lan) > B (debian box, which is A's default gateway) > internet |
| 20:24.04 | Haris | that box = A |
| 20:24.14 | stew | Haris: where are you running tcpdump? |
| 20:24.19 | Haris | on B |
| 20:24.25 | zyx386 | stew, who can i find driver for bcm 43xx? |
| 20:24.31 | Haris | in this case, it is ok |
| 20:24.39 | Haris | that's not a valid case of the problem |
| 20:24.45 | Haris | it was vpn traffic and vpn wasn't connected |
| 20:24.46 | stew | zyx386: /msg dpkg bcm43xx |
| 20:25.03 | adama | how to rename all files in a folder to lower case? |
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| 20:25.43 | stew | adama: rename '$_=lc $_' * |
| 20:25.52 | zyx386 | stew that is info about the website, but in the website is no driver for download |
| 20:25.55 | n3kl | adama, install renamexm |
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| 20:26.45 | stew | zyx386: /msg dpkg b43legacy |
| 20:27.01 | stew | zyx386: depending on your kernel version. did you read the entire factoid? |
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| 20:28.10 | stew | actually i guess "rename '$_=lc' *" is enough |
| 20:28.20 | zyx386 | yes stew |
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| 20:28.37 | justin | stew: or copy and paste the example from the rename man page :-P |
| 20:28.43 | Kurt2x | ok, so I did a dist-upgrade to sid, and it grabbed the latest kernel packages and installed them.... now I had ndiswrapper installed from source and that broke, so I reinstalled it, and it all went well, except when I load ndiswrapper nothing it appears to load fine and the iwlan1 comes up, however I can't ping anything and if I use dhcp it won't obtain an ip address from the router... if I reboot and use my old kernel it works fine.... |
| 20:29.17 | jelly-ho | justin: that example doesn't work for weird locales. |
| 20:29.40 | Kurt2x | 2.6.24-1 is the kernel it installed |
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| 20:30.09 | Kurt2x | I even tried module-assistant and that didn't work either... though it did work under the old kernel |
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| 20:30.40 | adama | stew: thanks! what you said didn't work but I got it |
| 20:30.49 | stew | it didn't? |
| 20:31.07 | hugleo | http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/screenshots/verScreenshot.php?codigo=12321 |
| 20:31.12 | n3kl | Anyone got any job openings? |
| 20:31.17 | stew | n3kl: wrong channel |
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| 20:31.27 | Kurt2x | hmmmmm |
| 20:31.28 | n3kl | heh |
| 20:31.42 | zyx386 | stew, that is correct b43-fwcutter thanx is now Active, thanx again |
| 20:31.45 | zyx386 | :) |
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| 20:32.02 | Kurt2x | anybody know why upgrading to a new kernel would disallow my networking stuff |
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| 20:32.33 | Kurt2x | do I need to reinstall wireless tools or something, or did the kernel wext stuff not get installed? |
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| 20:34.21 | zyx386 | Kurt2x, wich wlan have you? |
| 20:34.27 | Kurt2x | wlan1 |
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| 20:34.40 | Hotbird | hi |
| 20:34.42 | Kurt2x | wlan0 doesn't ever appear for me, it always says "renaming wlan0 to wlan1" |
| 20:34.55 | zyx386 | wireless? |
| 20:34.57 | Kurt2x | but that happened even under the old kernel when it worked |
| 20:34.59 | Kurt2x | yep wireless |
| 20:35.06 | Kurt2x | ndiswrapper is my module |
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| 20:35.49 | zyx386 | paste the output from "lspci" her |
| 20:35.55 | Hotbird | i have a problem with a realtech alc662 hda intel in debin unstable.I have sound but i cannot manage to have 5.1 |
| 20:36.05 | stew | no, don't paste here |
| 20:36.10 | Kurt2x | I completely removed the ndiswrapper I installed from svn and actually got the module-assistant packages, I can't paste it I have no network connectivity to the box downstairs |
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| 20:37.05 | Kurt2x | I logged back into the old kernel and installed ndiswrapper using module assistant there and it worked perfectly.... could ping and everything... but as soon as I log back into the new kernel boom wireless refuses to work |
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| 20:37.29 | Kurt2x | something is missing and I have no idea what |
| 20:37.46 | Kurt2x | but its got to do with the kernel somehow. |
| 20:37.57 | Kurt2x | does wireless tools need to be reinstalled or something? |
| 20:38.10 | stew | Kurt2x: no |
| 20:38.16 | stew | Kurt2x: i doubt it |
| 20:38.38 | stew | Kurt2x: can you give us more information, does "iwconfig" show the card? does it show it as being associated? |
| 20:38.46 | Kurt2x | yes iwconfig shows the card |
| 20:38.53 | multi_io | why does this happen: |
| 20:38.54 | multi_io | # iptables -t filter -A INPUT -m state --state 'ESTABLISHED,RELATED' -j ACCEPT |
| 20:38.54 | multi_io | iptables: Unknown error 4294967295 |
| 20:38.55 | Kurt2x | it shows even the scanned access point info |
| 20:39.00 | multi_io | ? |
| 20:39.07 | Kurt2x | iwlist scan will give me all the info of my wireless router |
| 20:39.13 | multi_io | is the "state" module deprecated or something? |
| 20:39.23 | multi_io | the above line is how I always configured iptables to let packets belonging to an open TCP connection get through |
| 20:39.38 | stew | multi_io: ask #iptables |
| 20:39.43 | Kurt2x | I've never manually configured iptables |
| 20:39.48 | multi_io | stew: thanks |
| 20:39.49 | stew | Kurt2x: then it doesn't sound like there is a problem with the userspace tools |
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| 20:40.19 | Kurt2x | stew: yeah something else is wacky.... it must be to do with the new kernel 2.6.24-1 package |
| 20:40.19 | stew | Kurt2x: is your interface manually or dynamically configured? |
| 20:40.24 | vvd | ctrl-alt-shift+x "short"-cuts. funneh |
| 20:40.46 | Kurt2x | stew: manually.... however when I used dhcp it refused to obtain an IP from the router |
| 20:41.04 | Kurt2x | stew: the second I reboot into the older kernel dhcp works fine. |
| 20:41.45 | Kurt2x | perhaps it has something to do with encryption |
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| 20:45.15 | Kurt2x | it totally looks like the ndiswrapper and its binary driver gets loaded and installed there are no oddities in dmesg or syslog, that's what boggles my mind right now.... it looks like it should be working fine but it doesn't. |
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| 20:48.12 | abrotman | wonders if there is a 1x version of Kurt2x |
| 20:48.20 | Kurt2x | haha |
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| 20:48.23 | Kurt2x | negative |
| 20:49.01 | Kurt2x | they accidentally deleted all of the 1x branch and were stuck with me |
| 20:49.23 | abrotman | mmm .. evil parents! |
| 20:49.45 | abrotman | uh .. that was a joke |
| 20:50.00 | Kurt2x | :D |
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| 20:50.31 | Kurt2x | have you ever seen a problem where one can no longer get their network up after upgrading to the new kernel? |
| 20:50.41 | Kurt2x | even though I've reinstalled the modules |
| 20:51.09 | unsolo_ | hmm for a mail server what file system is good |
| 20:51.27 | unsolo_ | xfs or jfs or raiserfs ? |
| 20:51.33 | Kurt2x | I totally uninstalled the old modules and then totally reinstalled ndiswrapper and the bugger still don't work |
| 20:51.41 | blizzow | The sarge installer automagically puts me at stable, but I need to do some testing on sarge and want aptitude running. What should my source.list file look like if I want to install Sarge and keep it there? I replace the word stable with sarge in the sources.list file, but keep getting "W: Couldn't stat source package from...." messages when I run aptitude update |
| 20:51.42 | Kurt2x | unsolo_: I just use ext3 |
| 20:51.43 | abrotman | unsolo_: something against ext3 ? |
| 20:51.52 | abrotman | blizzow: s/stable/sarge/ |
| 20:52.00 | abrotman | !archive |
| 20:52.00 | dpkg | hmm... archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Maybe: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive or even http://snapshot.debian.net, or http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 20:52.01 | unsolo_ | no not really |
| 20:52.29 | unsolo_ | but i have experienced running out of "files" on ext3 |
| 20:52.40 | unsolo_ | generated to many you see |
| 20:53.04 | Kurt2x | I hear jfs is good for super large files |
| 20:53.18 | Kurt2x | I dunno about number of files though |
| 20:53.20 | blizzow | abrotman: do I need to replace sarge/updates with s/stable/sarge for the security.debian.org line too? |
| 20:53.37 | vvd | ive read that ext3 is loosing some performance with time (defragmentation?) whereas xfs and jfs have constant performance over time |
| 20:53.38 | Kurt2x | blizzow: yes |
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| 20:54.19 | hramrach | Hello |
| 20:54.22 | vvd | fragmentation |
| 20:54.25 | vvd | lol |
| 20:54.27 | vvd | :)) |
| 20:54.51 | hramrach | How do I make apache2 do SSL *and* non-SSL ? |
| 20:55.02 | stew | hramrach: a2enmod ssl |
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| 20:55.21 | unsolo_ | what about reiserfs |
| 20:55.22 | stew | unsolo_: you might have run out of inodes. you can change the number of inodes when you create the filesystem |
| 20:55.30 | unsolo_ | ok |
| 20:55.34 | abrotman | blizzow: uhm .. that might work |
| 20:55.42 | unsolo_ | well guess i will take that when it comes to it |
| 20:55.42 | larsemil | whats the name of the package for the java-plugin in debian? |
| 20:55.46 | stew | unsolo_: reiserfs has very bad track record for being buggy |
| 20:55.57 | unsolo_ | in general all my non ext3 experience is bad.. |
| 20:56.06 | stew | larsemil: gcjwebplugin in lenny and sid, there isn't one in etch |
| 20:56.13 | hramrach | stew: it says Module ssl is already enabled! |
| 20:56.14 | unsolo_ | just good to recap from time to time |
| 20:56.20 | blizzow | abrotman: definitely didn't work. Got tons of cound't stat source package errors. |
| 20:56.37 | abrotman | blizzow: paste your sources somewhere |
| 20:56.52 | larsemil | stew: using lenny, but it says there is no installation candidate |
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| 20:57.36 | nascentmind | i am getting really small fonts in iceweasel.. i.e. inside the web browser.. how can i increase the font size? |
| 20:57.40 | stew | larsemil: ahh, yeah, looks like it was removed |
| 20:57.46 | nascentmind | this is the same even inside eclipse editor. |
| 20:57.59 | bkw- | Is is possible to get %wa for ever process when running top? |
| 20:58.04 | larsemil | stew: :/ so i'd rather install ubuntu then? :D |
| 20:58.27 | stew | larsemil: you could also install sun's java plugins where are in non-free |
| 20:58.47 | stew | larsemil: sun-java5-plugin or sun-java6-plugin (assuming you are on i386) |
| 20:58.48 | nascentmind | its problem with all gtk apps. |
| 20:59.04 | larsemil | stew: ah will see to activate the non-free repository then |
| 20:59.15 | stew | larsemil: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 20:59.15 | Bushmills | unsolo_: and reiser handles the situation of running out of disk space worst of xfs, ext3, and reiser |
| 20:59.21 | stew | nascentmind: 'switch2' alters the default gtk2 fonts |
| 20:59.28 | unsolo_ | Bushmills: ahh ok |
| 20:59.34 | Bushmills | oops. s/xfs/jfs/ |
| 20:59.37 | unsolo_ | crap |
| 20:59.45 | unsolo_ | well guess i can fix that part later.. |
| 20:59.56 | blizzow | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/d67a4046 is where my sources.list file is. |
| 21:00.03 | unsolo_ | so is cfs usable ? |
| 21:00.13 | abrotman | blizzow: uhm .. you messed up the security line |
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| 21:00.30 | Kurt2x | hmmm |
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| 21:00.36 | abrotman | blizzow: s/stable/sarge/ means to substitute stable for sarge |
| 21:00.55 | abrotman | blizzow: http://pastebin.com/m5822b559 |
| 21:01.03 | Bushmills | unsolo_: if you really need an alternative for ext3 which is jouirnalling and writes meta data (what xfs doesn't) then you might want to look at jfs |
| 21:01.14 | nascentmind | stew, it alters the window font sizes and stuff.. but inside the window.. the editor fonts all are very small.. |
| 21:01.16 | stew | abrotman: subtitute sarge for stable, you mean :) |
| 21:01.39 | unsolo_ | well actually when i think of it i need a cluster file system on this thing |
| 21:01.39 | abrotman | stew: no .. he's trying to run a sarge testing box .. i assume to test an upgrade |
| 21:01.47 | unsolo_ | i just cant remember which ones are free |
| 21:01.47 | nascentmind | like in xchat.. all the window menu fonts are big.. but the chat editor has small fonts. |
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| 21:01.53 | Bushmills | i mean, does not only write meta data |
| 21:02.02 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 21:02.09 | stew | abrotman: s/stable/sarge/ doesn't mean substitute stable for sarge |
| 21:02.15 | vvd | apt-get source icewm: "E: Unable to find a source package for icewm" with "deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main" in my sources.list. any idea? |
| 21:02.30 | yassine | how do i create a directory structure recursively ? mkdir -? /new/directory/test ? |
| 21:02.32 | Lagbolt | abrotman, its backwards |
| 21:02.33 | stew | nascentmind: edit -> prefernces -> content -> fonts |
| 21:02.40 | streuner | !info icewm lenny |
| 21:02.42 | dpkg | icewm: (wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.35-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 675 kB, Installed size: 1652 kB |
| 21:02.59 | Lagbolt | no wait thats right |
| 21:03.09 | unsolo_ | anyone here familiar with cluster file systems ? |
| 21:03.10 | abrotman | stew: oh .. yeah .. but he knows what i meant! |
| 21:03.10 | streuner | vvd: show us your sources.list in paste.debian.net, please |
| 21:03.18 | abrotman | Lagbolt: it's 5pm .. brain is toast! |
| 21:03.41 | Lagbolt | abrotman, its 5pm and i am just getting up lol |
| 21:03.47 | stew | nascentmind: if its a problem with app applications, perhaps your DPI is not correct |
| 21:03.55 | blizzow | abrotman: Thanks for the help. Looks like it's working! |
| 21:04.13 | Bushmills | stew. i'll go with abrotman in this matter |
| 21:04.21 | abrotman | with me?! |
| 21:04.28 | streuner | hehe |
| 21:04.29 | abrotman | has a date! |
| 21:04.30 | vvd | streuner: http://paste.debian.net/1286/ |
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| 21:04.35 | Bushmills | s/old/new/ |
| 21:04.37 | nascentmind | stew, kde fonts look great.. even the contents in the editor are fine.. but gtk apps the editor contents are small.. |
| 21:04.39 | abrotman | oh |
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| 21:04.43 | hramrach | I can configure ssl on the default apache2 site but it then refuses to talk non-ssl. Or I can not configure it and it then talks plain even on the ssl port |
| 21:04.44 | stew | Bushmills: that's going with me |
| 21:05.27 | VulcanRidr | Anyone know how large the full Debian feed is? Ballpark. |
| 21:05.51 | streuner | vvd: you have only testing/lenny sources (exept one deb-src line for lenny), what do you expect then? |
| 21:05.56 | blizzow | maybe I spoke too soon. I still get a bunch of couldn't stat source package list. Is mirros.xmission.com an ok place to run sarge from? |
| 21:05.58 | Bushmills | stew, sry. abrotman " s/stable/sarge/ means..", stew: " subtitute sarge for stable" |
| 21:06.00 | stew | VulcanRidr: feed of what exactly? |
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| 21:06.19 | vvd | streuner: the icewm sources of debian lenny |
| 21:06.33 | streuner | vvd: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 21:06.35 | hramrach | How do I Make apache talk both SSL and plain? Or do I need a separate serverfor each? |
| 21:06.40 | unsolo_ | CXFS CODA SANErgy GFS (3 of them) Fusion PVFS GPFS Inter-mezzo Any of those usable |
| 21:06.53 | VulcanRidr | stable/testing/unstable/experimental for, say, i386, ia64 and sparc. |
| 21:06.58 | streuner | vvd: and comment the lenny/testing deb-src line in that sources.list |
| 21:07.00 | Bushmills | unsolo_: coda is interesting |
| 21:07.04 | VulcanRidr | Trying to size a machine for it. |
| 21:07.06 | abrotman | blizzow: you probably want the archive.debian.org |
| 21:07.12 | nascentmind | stew, any ideas? |
| 21:07.23 | \amethyst | VulcanRidr: http://www.debian.org/mirror/size |
| 21:07.37 | vvd | streuner: so lenny has no sources for icewm? im a bit confused.. |
| 21:07.39 | abrotman | blizzow: nope .. it's not there yet |
| 21:07.47 | abrotman | blizzow: did you use the sources.list i posted ? |
| 21:07.47 | streuner | vvd: sure |
| 21:07.49 | stew | nascentmind: none besides the 3 i gave you already |
| 21:07.50 | unsolo_ | well im mostly interested in something that syncs all servers |
| 21:08.03 | streuner | vvd: you want newer icewm, right? |
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| 21:08.08 | unsolo_ | that is redundant |
| 21:08.13 | fas3r | do you know pastebin but for image :) ? |
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| 21:08.16 | vvd | streuner: yeah, the lenny version |
| 21:08.22 | abrotman | blizzow: and that xmission still has sarge |
| 21:08.30 | Bushmills | unsolo_: you would want to use coda when the connection is not robust. |
| 21:08.30 | streuner | vvd: line 11 is wrong too... |
| 21:08.57 | Kurt2x | stew |
| 21:08.58 | unsolo_ | Bushmills: its a robust connection |
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| 21:09.08 | streuner | vvd: you need only (primary) official lines, one for an official mirror and one for security (etch/stable) |
| 21:09.08 | stew | VulcanRidr: i'd guess between 100 and 200 gigabytes |
| 21:09.09 | Bushmills | unsolo_: what's wrong with nfs then? |
| 21:09.12 | Kurt2x | I checked the syslog and it says "no ipv6 routers available" |
| 21:09.17 | blizzow | abrotman: yeah, I tried the version in your pastebin. Still got a couple couldn't stat package errors. |
| 21:09.22 | unsolo_ | Bushmills: only one server has the data |
| 21:09.34 | abrotman | blizzow: paste your sources.list and the errors |
| 21:09.35 | unsolo_ | power failure on that server equals downtime |
| 21:09.37 | Kurt2x | which makes me wonder if this 2.4.24-1 kernel doesn't have the right network modules installed |
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| 21:09.53 | Kurt2x | what's kernel-wlan-ng? |
| 21:09.56 | unsolo_ | if two servers are synced using cluster mysql + cluster file systems. |
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| 21:10.04 | Bushmills | unsolo_: "something that syncs all servers" how would it be on one server only if you sync the others? |
| 21:10.20 | vvd | streuner: so either stable OR testing? |
| 21:10.27 | streuner | vvd: according to http://packages.debian.org/icewm icewm isn't in backports.org (bpo), so just use <simple sid backport> |
| 21:10.33 | unsolo_ | Bushmills: its for a ha cluster |
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| 21:10.50 | vvd | streuner: why isnt "# |
| 21:10.54 | unsolo_ | you have virtual servers on the backend but instead of relying on a san sollution with nfs. |
| 21:10.54 | vvd | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main" |
| 21:11.00 | vvd | ...working |
| 21:11.05 | unsolo_ | you have a cluster file system |
| 21:11.30 | Bushmills | unsolo_: multiple initiator/controller scsi, maybe? |
| 21:11.43 | Bushmills | i.e. same set of disks on different controllers in different machines |
| 21:11.50 | streuner | vvd: well, you could use lenny/testing sources too, but just use sid simple backport, they are the same... |
| 21:12.26 | unsolo_ | Bushmills: that is an option |
| 21:12.41 | unsolo_ | however there is other ways |
| 21:12.48 | streuner | vvd: AND comment all non-official lines in your sources.list, you don't need them |
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| 21:13.41 | vvd | streuner: i could but i get "E: Unable to find a source package for icewm" |
| 21:13.59 | vvd | though i have the deb-source line and updated |
| 21:14.18 | streuner | vvd: show us your (edited) sources.list again |
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| 21:16.05 | zamuroff | xauth is getting to my very last nerve... is there a way to overide it or give root access to xorg without tearing xorg.conf or xdm apart? |
| 21:16.07 | vvd | streuner: well, i have two, one sources.list and one in sources.list.d |
| 21:16.19 | streuner | show us, don't tell |
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| 21:18.30 | vvd | streuner: http://paste.debian.net/1289/ |
| 21:18.36 | streuner | deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 21:18.39 | Kurt2x | so you guys ever see wireless extentions get disabled after upgradding your kernel? |
| 21:18.45 | streuner | add this to your sources.list |
| 21:19.28 | vvd | ok |
| 21:19.41 | abrotman | Kurt2x: depends on the driver i'd say |
| 21:19.57 | streuner | and why the hell is the file /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/64studio.list? |
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| 21:20.55 | vvd | E: Unable to find a source package for icewm |
| 21:21.05 | Kurt2x | my driver is ndiswrapper |
| 21:21.06 | streuner | vvd: comment line 17 too |
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| 21:21.32 | blizzow | abrotman: Here's my updated sources.list and the errors I get when trying to update during sarge. http://pastebin.com/d3f93368f |
| 21:21.43 | vvd | streuner: i need that |
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| 21:23.28 | vvd | brb |
| 21:23.40 | abrotman | blizzow: try apt-get update |
| 21:23.45 | streuner | vvd: wait |
| 21:23.58 | streuner | hm, too late... |
| 21:24.06 | abrotman | he'll be dead by morning! |
| 21:24.12 | streuner | hehe |
| 21:24.34 | streuner | with THAT sources.list he's going to get that to work in 50 years... ;-) |
| 21:25.02 | blizzow | abrotman: apt-get update didn't like it. |
| 21:25.22 | blizzow | same kinds of errors. |
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| 21:26.10 | zyx386 | what is actually kernel version in Lenny? |
| 21:26.24 | streuner | zyx386: use pdo (packages.debian.org) |
| 21:26.45 | zyx386 | streuner, lol thanx |
| 21:26.49 | streuner | latest version in lenny is 2.6.24, IIRC |
| 21:27.22 | abrotman | blizzow: are you absolutely sure that's your sources.list? it appears to be trying to get security updates from xmission |
| 21:27.24 | zyx386 | how can upgrade it to anew kernel |
| 21:27.38 | abrotman | "it" being? |
| 21:28.53 | streuner | vvd: http://paste.debian.net/1290/ |
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| 21:29.24 | blizzow | abrotman: I've double checked and re-posted my sources.list... http://pastebin.com/d147c82d5 |
| 21:29.25 | dennisonicc | Hi |
| 21:29.36 | peleg | hey \amethyst - are you there? |
| 21:29.50 | maxt3r | hey need help 2 nvdia on debian lenny, i go for sh Nvidia and the installer starts but i get error whit gcc |
| 21:30.00 | streuner | vvd: use that for your sources.list and it should work |
| 21:30.03 | dennisonicc | Which image should I download for a firewall/router box with gnome/kde? |
| 21:30.08 | \amethyst | peleg: yes |
| 21:30.17 | \amethyst | peleg: did changing the font preferences work? |
| 21:30.25 | peleg | \amethyst: thanks for your reply, I just had to leave suddenly |
| 21:30.47 | peleg | anyway, of course I have done that (before I asked here) - it didn't change anything |
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| 21:31.03 | vvd | any ideas for my "apt-get source whatever" results in "E: Unable to find a source package for anything" problem? (it worked before, i have a deb-src entry and updated the repos) (streuner: it should work with my config too, it did before) |
| 21:31.30 | \amethyst | peleg: oh, hm. Then I don't know :( |
| 21:31.31 | streuner | vvd: use the URL above what we paste you |
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| 21:31.41 | streuner | vvd: http://paste.debian.net/1290/ |
| 21:31.52 | peleg | I have 4 fonts to choose (proportional, serif, sans-serif, and Mitra Mono, and non of them is "Tombic", which is the "bad" font) |
| 21:31.54 | vvd | streuner: you commented out my distri repos |
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| 21:32.03 | vvd | streuner: that makes no sense |
| 21:32.15 | streuner | vvd: i commented out all useless stuff :-) |
| 21:32.24 | vvd | streuner: i need those ^^) |
| 21:32.42 | \amethyst | peleg: you use gnome? |
| 21:32.47 | streuner | vvd: hm, not in order to get newer icewm :-) |
| 21:32.51 | peleg | \amethyst: indeed |
| 21:33.47 | abrotman | blizzow: yeh .. it's wrong |
| 21:33.56 | \amethyst | peleg: are any of the Gnome default fonts this 'Tombic' thing, by any chance? |
| 21:34.01 | abrotman | blizzow: http://pastebin.com/m3f3a302f .. notice line #10 |
| 21:34.30 | ale666 | hi guys. I have two servers at my hosting provider. i want to able to use rync or scp without having to type the ip address of the dest machine. i would prefer to simply type the name of the destination machine. how can i set this up? thnak you. |
| 21:34.31 | peleg | \amethyst: why should it? how can I check it? in the rest of the system it looks like it uses normal fonts. |
| 21:35.00 | peleg | \amethyst: for example, with evolution the hebrew is ok |
| 21:35.09 | blizzow | abrotman: so security updates always have to come from security.debian.org? |
| 21:35.10 | \amethyst | peleg: that's probably not it, then, but it's in the control center (either under Fonts or Appearance depending on which version of Gnome) |
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| 21:35.18 | vvd | streuner: ive used that config to backport a current seq24, so.. |
| 21:35.36 | \amethyst | peleg: The only other thing I can think of are font substitutions, and I know nothing about those |
| 21:35.46 | abrotman | blizzow: mostly .. after awhile there'll be a new point release of "stable" and it will get rolled up .. but you're using sarge, and that's now "final" |
| 21:35.55 | peleg | \amethyst: ok, thanks. I will do some more research, then come here again. cheers. |
| 21:36.03 | dennisonicc | Does this image http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/i386/jigdo-cd/debian-40r3-i386-CD-1.jigdo contain all neccessary tools to set-up a firewall/router?? |
| 21:36.33 | Zelta | Which channel is official: this one or the one on irc.debian.org? |
| 21:36.36 | streuner | dennisonicc: if your NIC is supported and your sources.list is ok, it should |
| 21:36.40 | \amethyst | Zelta: the other one |
| 21:36.42 | vvd | are there any special packages required to use "apt-get source"? yesterday i removed some stuff and now apt-get source isnt working anymore!? |
| 21:36.47 | streuner | Zelta: OFTC |
| 21:36.48 | abrotman | Zelta: neither |
| 21:36.57 | blizzow | it works! Thanks abrotman! |
| 21:36.59 | stew | Zelta: neither |
| 21:37.07 | \amethyst | irc.debian.org is OFTC |
| 21:37.15 | abrotman | but ti's not an official channel |
| 21:37.22 | \amethyst | oh |
| 21:37.25 | streuner | neither? irc.debian.org points to OFTC, according to that OFTC is official |
| 21:37.45 | \amethyst | is #debian-mentors/oftc official? |
| 21:38.00 | streuner | Who cares? |
| 21:38.02 | abrotman | streuner: ftp.us.debian.org points to mirrors.kernel.org .. but we also use hurd and bsd kernels .. |
| 21:38.41 | streuner | We are all Debian users, and we support Debian, who cares where and when we support...? |
| 21:38.51 | streuner | Debian* |
| 21:39.03 | quentusrex | what's the command to add a new init.d script to the start up process? |
| 21:39.03 | Zelta | I'm just wondering which is "official" |
| 21:39.11 | stew | quentusrex: man update-rc.d |
| 21:39.16 | Zelta | I got four different answers: both, neither, irc.debian.org, and this one lol |
| 21:39.35 | abrotman | Zelta: neither are official |
| 21:39.58 | \amethyst | http://wiki.debian.org/IRC seems to indicate that they are official, but then again it's a wiki so maybe shouldn't be trusted |
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| 21:40.13 | ashdkjahksdas | free mp3 http://www.pc10.com.br |
| 21:40.21 | streuner | wtf |
| 21:40.26 | WaffleMatt | Tasty, spam! |
| 21:40.46 | abrotman | \amethyst: clearly .. i'm not in the list of ops :) |
| 21:40.46 | peleg | I just can't find any information about "font substitutions" of gnome in google. does anyone here know anything about it? |
| 21:40.50 | lostson | spam caserole |
| 21:40.55 | streuner | sure |
| 21:41.25 | \amethyst | peleg: I might have the terminology wrong, so you might explain the problem again, and the steps you've already taken |
| 21:41.37 | peleg | \amethyst: :-) |
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| 21:42.51 | \amethyst | blizzow: ( printf '%s\n' bsulzer mysekritpass y | vpnclient connect hsr_remote ) & |
| 21:42.54 | \amethyst | doh |
| 21:42.58 | \amethyst | sorry, wrong complete and chennel |
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| 21:43.05 | vvd | "E: Unable to find a source package for bash" help!? |
| 21:43.11 | vvd | :( |
| 21:43.34 | streuner | vvd: what do you want, switch to lenny/testing? |
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| 21:43.46 | streuner | or why do you need to upgrade bash too? |
| 21:43.49 | peleg | I have installed a new font - a hebrew font, and since then my Firefox shows all hebrew sites in that font. that font is not readable, really, so I can't read hebrew on most of the hebrew websites now. uninstalling the font will repair the situation; but I need that font. how can I force firefox to use another font by default, and not this font? I have tried to change firefox properties to many different fonts, but it looks lik |
| 21:44.06 | vvd | i cant get any sources |
| 21:44.10 | streuner | hm |
| 21:44.15 | streuner | you don't need to |
| 21:44.27 | vvd | but i want to |
| 21:44.29 | streuner | bash is fine in etch/stable |
| 21:44.44 | vvd | it doesnt matter |
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| 21:44.57 | \amethyst | sid has a more up-to-date bash on most architectures |
| 21:44.58 | streuner | well, you need to switch to lenny/testing then (/msg dpkg sid faq) and read that first |
| 21:45.02 | vvd | i want at least to be able to download and look at it |
| 21:45.08 | \amethyst | not i386 though |
| 21:45.15 | \amethyst | !deb-src |
| 21:45.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, deb-src is 'deb-src http://http.<CC>.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free' (example) where '<CC>' is the Country Code, replace with your own for a local mirror - ask me about <source> or <apt-build> for some info about how to build stuff, make sure "build-essential" is installed, ask me about <module-assistant>. Might need to have linux-headers-`uname -r` (if using a debian kernel) and "libc6-dev" installed. |
| 21:45.26 | vvd | i know that |
| 21:45.32 | vvd | it doesnt work |
| 21:45.36 | \amethyst | vvd: did you do an apt-get update ? |
| 21:45.36 | vvd | :P |
| 21:45.38 | streuner | well, you don't know nothing |
| 21:45.43 | vvd | yes \amethyst |
| 21:45.52 | \amethyst | vvd: what is the exact deb-src line you used? |
| 21:46.14 | vvd | deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main |
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| 21:46.21 | streuner | vvd: you aren't able to use a working sources.list, why the hell you think you need testing? |
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| 21:46.54 | abrotman | blizzow: everythign humming now? |
| 21:47.08 | streuner | if you aren't able to edit your sources.list, you should't use testing/lenny or unstable/sid. |
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| 21:47.22 | vvd | streuner: plz, you aint helping here.. |
| 21:48.09 | vvd | streuner: wtf are you talking |
| 21:48.11 | vvd | lol |
| 21:48.19 | streuner | vvd: no, you aren't able to unterstand sources.list and how Debian works |
| 21:48.24 | vvd | :)) |
| 21:48.53 | streuner | so, just use etch/stable now and get some expierences first... |
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| 21:49.34 | \amethyst | streuner: what's wrong with that sources.list line? |
| 21:49.36 | vvd | *sigh* |
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| 21:50.10 | vvd | nothing, \amethyst, ive backported stuff from testing before. with the same sources.list |
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| 21:50.21 | vvd | im using etch |
| 21:50.24 | \amethyst | vvd: and what command failed? |
| 21:50.40 | vvd | none |
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| 21:50.48 | \amethyst | so what's the problem? |
| 21:50.49 | Kurt2x | is it possible for ipv4 support to be disabled after upgrading with dist-upgrade? |
| 21:51.00 | vvd | \amethyst: now it doesnt work anymore |
| 21:51.06 | Kurt2x | from lenny and a custom vanilla compiled kernel |
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| 21:51.24 | vvd | apt-get source gives me "E: Unable to find a source package for" any package |
| 21:51.26 | stew | vvd: what arch are you on? |
| 21:51.37 | vvd | i386 |
| 21:51.57 | fas3r | someone know pastebin for image ( photo ) ? |
| 21:52.24 | abrotman | !paste |
| 21:52.24 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
| 21:52.29 | \amethyst | vvd: so apt-get source has worked in the past but has stopped working now |
| 21:52.29 | \amethyst | ? |
| 21:52.34 | amphi | fas3r: picpaste.com |
| 21:52.37 | vvd | \amethyst: correct |
| 21:53.02 | stew | vvd: show us the output of "apt-get update" |
| 21:53.04 | \amethyst | vvd: did anything change? can you connect to the server by hand? have you run apt-get update recently? |
| 21:53.08 | stew | vvd: use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 21:53.30 | vvd | \amethyst: update had no errors from any source |
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| 21:54.19 | vvd | stew: http://paste.debian.net/1291/ |
| 21:54.46 | stew | oh, not debian |
| 21:54.55 | vvd | stew: its etch |
| 21:54.59 | vvd | :D |
| 21:55.09 | vvd | please |
| 21:55.11 | stew | its studio64 |
| 21:55.11 | abrotman | vvd: no .. that's not debian |
| 21:55.18 | vvd | bah |
| 21:55.26 | vvd | to me it is |
| 21:55.40 | vvd | well, what can i do |
| 21:55.40 | abrotman | to us it's not :) |
| 21:55.40 | streuner | vvd: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 21:55.53 | zyx386 | can Gnash play every Vedio from Youtube ? |
| 21:55.56 | zyx386 | 100% |
| 21:56.05 | abrotman | zyx386: try it and let us know |
| 21:56.06 | stew | vvd: what does "cat /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Sources | grep -c Package" return? |
| 21:56.13 | vvd | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch5 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 21:56.18 | zyx386 | ok |
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| 21:56.33 | vvd | stew: 11913 |
| 21:56.39 | streuner | zyx386: gnash is beta and it doesn't work in any case... |
| 21:56.47 | abrotman | streuner: uh ... |
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| 21:57.20 | stew | zyx386: yes, it works for youtube somewhat. you can't fast-forward, rewind, or replay. i haven't watched 100% of the videos on youtube yet |
| 21:57.46 | streuner | vvd: why not just using our sources.list? |
| 21:57.54 | abrotman | !studio64 |
| 21:57.57 | zyx386 | thanx stew |
| 21:58.07 | streuner | vvd: you could add other lines later then... |
| 21:58.14 | vvd | !64studio maybe? |
| 21:58.37 | streuner | maybe, but its not supported here |
| 21:58.41 | ManuP | i created keys on PCA and wrote id_rsa.pub to .ssh/authorized_keys of PCB. i disabled rootlogin and disabled password in sshd_config on PCB. but i can not log from PCA to PCB: i get "Permission denied (pubkey)". what's wrong? |
| 21:58.46 | stew | vvd: what package are you trying to get the source for? |
| 21:58.59 | streuner | stew: icewm |
| 21:59.00 | vvd | stew: icewm, but i get that error for any package |
| 21:59.03 | \amethyst | vvd: anyway, you can download the source package (.orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz, and .dsc) from packages.debian.org |
| 21:59.18 | streuner | stew: we already told him a correct sources.list... |
| 21:59.37 | \amethyst | his deb-src line looks good |
| 21:59.40 | stew | streuner: the sources.list he is using is correct |
| 21:59.55 | \amethyst | and Get:5 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Sources/DiffIndex [2023B] |
| 22:00.03 | streuner | hm |
| 22:00.10 | streuner | lenny and sid are the same... |
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| 22:00.22 | streuner | (version) |
| 22:00.36 | stew | streuner: no, they are not |
| 22:00.45 | stew | vvd: what does "fgrep "Package: icewm" /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources" return? |
| 22:01.05 | vvd | vvd@miqu:~$ fgrep "Package: icewm" /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources |
| 22:01.05 | vvd | Package: icewm |
| 22:01.06 | vvd | Package: icewm-themes |
| 22:01.19 | streuner | stew: http://packages.debian.org/icewm |
| 22:01.28 | stew | streuner: thanks |
| 22:01.38 | streuner | stew: no worries :-) |
| 22:01.58 | stew | vvd: does "apt-get showsrc icewm" work? |
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| 22:02.14 | vvd | E: Invalid operation showsrc |
| 22:02.27 | stew | vvd: sorry, apt-cache showsrc icewm |
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| 22:02.53 | vvd | yupp, that returns info like aptitude show icewm |
| 22:03.00 | vvd | kinda |
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| 22:03.11 | vvd | vvd@miqu:~$ apt-cache showsrc icewm |
| 22:03.11 | vvd | Package: icewm |
| 22:03.13 | vvd | ... |
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| 22:03.26 | stew | vvd: try "apt-get source icewm" again. |
| 22:03.27 | \amethyst | vvd: did apt-get source icewm report an error, or just do nothing? |
| 22:03.31 | ManuP | ssh connection works with password if i activate PasswordAuthentification. but i want it to work with keys. |
| 22:03.38 | jaggy- | I moved a single file to trash in Konquerer and the progress bar/dialogue is just sitting there... |
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| 22:03.42 | vvd | vvd@miqu:~$ apt-get source icewm |
| 22:03.42 | vvd | Reading package lists... Done |
| 22:03.42 | vvd | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 22:03.42 | vvd | E: Unable to find a source package for icewm |
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| 22:04.02 | streuner | ... |
| 22:04.08 | \amethyst | ManuP: you want it to use only keys, to allow either keys or passwords, or to require both a key and a password? |
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| 22:04.33 | ManuP | \amethyst, only key. for backup... |
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| 22:04.52 | \amethyst | ManuP: and you don't want to be able to log in with a password at all? |
| 22:04.58 | vvd | :) |
| 22:05.02 | vvd | sorry |
| 22:05.17 | ManuP | \amethyst, yeah. maybe i need it later, but not atm |
| 22:05.17 | vvd | did the message arrive with error? |
| 22:05.34 | stew | !tell vvd about paste |
| 22:05.54 | \amethyst | ManuP: then PasswordAuthentication no ChallengeResponseAuthentication no and PubkeyAuthentication yes |
| 22:05.57 | streuner | fuck, you don't want tell us there is no sources in lenny for icewm |
| 22:06.14 | Bushmills | ManuP: be aware that ssh servers are frequently subjected to dictionary password attacks. |
| 22:06.28 | streuner | who has lenny installed and can use that? |
| 22:06.28 | stew | no, as evidenced by his "apt-cache showsrc iceewm" finding some... |
| 22:06.39 | vvd | stew, \amethyst : http://paste.debian.net/1293/ |
| 22:06.42 | dhunter | Wholly shit. I installed dash and changed the link /bin/sh to point to /bin/dash and everything is like 100 times faster. I think bash is fucked up. I almost gave up on debian |
| 22:06.47 | Bushmills | (means, there is a good reason to disable password login alltogether) |
| 22:06.59 | ManuP | Bushmills, yeah. that's because i am using (only!) pubkeys. |
| 22:07.18 | joltcan | Use fail2ban for all those ssh-scans |
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| 22:07.53 | Bushmills | joltcan: there are more reasons to disable password login |
| 22:07.54 | joltcan | fail2ban can also take care of http bruteforces |
| 22:07.58 | streuner | vvd: what happens if you use our sources.list? |
| 22:07.59 | ManuP | \amethyst, yeah. i got that already. i recheckt and restarted ssh. |
| 22:08.01 | dhunter | Is using /bin/dash as /bin/sh going to screw me later |
| 22:08.20 | ManuP | \amethyst, still the error: Permission denied (publicckey). |
| 22:08.28 | joltcan | Bushmills: Yes, but sometimes that is not an option. I prefer OpenVPN and not having anything else open at all |
| 22:08.28 | WaffleMatt | I don't know how compatible dash is with bash, so there might be bugs |
| 22:08.29 | streuner | vvd:http://paste.debian.net/1290 |
| 22:08.31 | ManuP | \amethyst, did i do sth. wrong with the keys?? |
| 22:08.43 | stew | dhunter: it shouldn't. if it does it is an error that should be reported and fixed quickly |
| 22:09.16 | ManuP | \amethyst, i created on client the keys, then cat id_rsa.pub >> HOST/User/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 22:09.26 | \amethyst | ManuP: permissions are important |
| 22:09.48 | stew | dhunter: anything that is expecting /bin/sh to be bash and not dash or posh is broken. people have been actively looking for such bugs for some time now, there could be some left, but they should be rare. ubuntu has /bin/sh as dash, and have therefore found many of these bugs |
| 22:09.52 | dhunter | stew I kid you not. I was pulling my hair out. Something has to be wrong with bash. |
| 22:10.01 | ManuP | \amethyst, i gave .ssh in the userdir 600 as i did with authorized_keys |
| 22:10.08 | stew | dhunter: why does something have to be wrong with bash? |
| 22:10.21 | \amethyst | ManuP: oh, that's your problem. the directory should be 700, the file 600 |
| 22:10.23 | ManuP | \amethyst, .ssh has 700 for permissions |
| 22:10.38 | \amethyst | ManuP: what are the permissions on the home directory? |
| 22:10.39 | dhunter | stew: It's so slow. |
| 22:10.42 | stew | vvd: do you have an /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 22:10.51 | vvd | stew: yeah |
| 22:10.59 | stew | dhunter: its extremely large and featureful. what you are describing is expected and well known |
| 22:11.01 | snewp | i tried ftp from my box and it says: ftp: bind: Address already in use? |
| 22:11.05 | stew | vvd: please put it into a pastebin |
| 22:11.20 | vvd | stew: its empty though |
| 22:11.26 | dhunter | Even on freebsd bash is like ten (at least) times faster. |
| 22:11.26 | ManuP | \amethyst, 755 i guess... rwx rx rx |
| 22:11.44 | vvd | stew: weird, i thought i had something in there... |
| 22:11.56 | stew | vvd: how about /etc/apt/apt.conf ? |
| 22:12.07 | stew | vvd: what version of apt is installed? |
| 22:12.08 | vvd | APT::Default-Release "stable" |
| 22:12.21 | vvd | may that be the problem? ;) |
| 22:12.30 | vvd | plz say yes |
| 22:12.30 | stew | vvd: try apt-get -t testing source icewm |
| 22:12.38 | streuner | oh god |
| 22:12.46 | vvd | stew: !!!! YES! |
| 22:12.52 | vvd | its downloading |
| 22:12.52 | \amethyst | ManuP: hm, then that's fine. maybe try turning up the verbosity on both the server and the client |
| 22:12.56 | ManuP | \amethyst, diff key-nb.pub /mnt/madk/.ssh/authorized_keys tells that the key is correctly in the file... |
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| 22:13.24 | vvd | stew: you are gorgeous or whatever it is called :) thank you |
| 22:13.36 | stew | heh, i actually had this problem on another box and never figured out why :) |
| 22:13.50 | ManuP | \amethyst, i only need the keys on the client (where do i define in which directory?) and the pub-key in the file authorized_keys on server? |
| 22:13.56 | vvd | hooray |
| 22:14.00 | dhunter | stew: No. On freebsd, or Openbsd it is alot faster. On debian it makes me want to gaudge my eyes out. |
| 22:14.05 | \amethyst | ManuP: keys on the client go in ~/.ssh/ |
| 22:14.15 | streuner | stew: we didnt expect something other :-P |
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| 22:14.30 | ManuP | \amethyst, and the name is unimportant? |
| 22:14.40 | ManuP | \amethyst, ahhhhh |
| 22:14.42 | braydon | hi, i am having a problem when I boot my machine (macbook pro) that the trackpad will sometimes not work at all. any recommendations to fix this? |
| 22:15.00 | streuner | vvd: don't use pinning |
| 22:15.01 | ManuP | \amethyst, here we go: i renamed the file.... but i am not allowed to do so ^^ |
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| 22:15.11 | \amethyst | ManuP: if it's not the default id_dsa.pub and id_dsa you have to use ssh -i basename |
| 22:15.42 | ManuP | \amethyst, k. that's the thing i missed. |
| 22:15.43 | \amethyst | actually, the location of the pubkey on the client doesn't matter, only the private |
| 22:15.45 | dhunter | stew: I would login and see the message of the day and wait for my bash prompt. |
| 22:15.49 | \amethyst | ManuP: search for -i in man ssh |
| 22:16.06 | stew | dhunter: do you have bash_completion enabled? |
| 22:16.18 | ManuP | thanks \amethyst a lot |
| 22:16.27 | \amethyst | also, if you do man authorized_keys you can find out how to make a key good for only one specific command |
| 22:16.41 | \amethyst | since you mentioned that this was for backup, you might find that more secure |
| 22:16.42 | dhunter | stew: even on arch linux bash is alot faster. It's a fresh install. |
| 22:17.07 | stew | dhunter: is bash_completion being sourced? |
| 22:17.25 | \amethyst | (e.g. you don't have to feel as bad about leaving the key unencrypted, since it can only be used to run a backup anyway) |
| 22:17.29 | dhunter | Is that the default? |
| 22:17.37 | streuner | abrotman: ! |
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| 22:17.58 | streuner | hm |
| 22:18.02 | streuner | !seen abrotman |
| 22:18.02 | dpkg | abrotman <n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 20m 8s ago, saying: '!studio64'. |
| 22:18.34 | stew | dhunter: i believe so. which means there is a 9k script (/etc/bash_completion) which is being run when you login. its likely that freebsd isn't doing this |
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| 22:20.01 | Kitsune | Hi. I'm running Ubuntu Feisty Fawn and I have an annoying problem. Whenever I click and drag any icon on my desktop, it makes a (copy) of it O_o |
| 22:20.23 | Bushmills | Kitsune: try #linspire |
| 22:20.28 | streuner | Kitsune: #ubuntu |
| 22:20.53 | ManuP | \amethyst, that is a good point. i thougt of creating a special key for backup only. but i didnt think that it was possible. |
| 22:20.56 | Bushmills | or a gnome specific channel |
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| 22:21.23 | chumpalump | Hello All, I'm having trouble building linux-wlan-ng, madwifi, and kvm on 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
| 22:21.24 | dhunter | stew: that's a negative. freebsd,openbsd,archlinux all use bash completion. Script execuption is magnatudes fatser. |
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| 22:22.28 | chumpalump | for example linux-wlan-ng fails with /p80211mod.c:59:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory |
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| 22:23.04 | stew | dhunter: how did you check if they use bash_completion? |
| 22:23.27 | enouf | !find linux/config.h etch+half |
| 22:23.37 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'linux/config.h etch+half' returned no results. |
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| 22:24.14 | stew | Bushmills: please don't misdirect people to random other distro channels |
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| 22:25.00 | chumpalump | enouf: is there a FAQ for #debian bot usage? |
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| 22:25.17 | stew | chumpalump: "/msg dpkg help"? |
| 22:25.30 | chumpalump | ahh, cool |
| 22:25.39 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 22:25.41 | Bushmills | stew, if debian is considered same as ubuntu by ubuntu users, linspire is ubuntu too. |
| 22:25.48 | themill | !tell chumpalump about dpkgbot |
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| 22:25.59 | stew | chumpalump: http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot |
| 22:26.09 | Bushmills | but, more desktop oriented, as ubuntu us |
| 22:26.19 | stew | Bushmills: debian is not the same as ubuntu. ubuntu is not the same as linspire |
| 22:26.21 | dhunter | stew: Anyway stew. The point is I changed the /bin/sh to point to /bin/dash and now everything runs a shitload (technical term) faster. like not kidding at least ten times. |
| 22:26.23 | Bushmills | so, linspire = ubuntu |
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| 22:26.40 | stew | Bushmills: please stop. and please direct users to the proper channels |
| 22:27.26 | chumpalump | <bzzz> I know jiu jitsu ;-) |
| 22:27.39 | erimar77 | i know fujitsu |
| 22:27.53 | erimar77 | 3 day seminar ;) |
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| 22:28.42 | enouf | last night, i had tae kwan doe :-P |
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| 22:29.59 | ManuP | \amethyst, i don't have man authorized_keys |
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| 22:31.12 | dhunter | stew: Like i said, I was ready to give up on debian becouse it felt so slow. Now it rocks. bash is messed up on the default install. I've used Linux and bash for years. |
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| 22:33.13 | dondelelcaro | dhunter: messed up in what way? |
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| 22:34.40 | stew | dhunter: its going to be tough for debian to ever select defaults that please everyone when trying to find a balance between features and startup speed. you never told me how you figured out how much of the completion is enabled in freebsd, but i'll bet its less than /etc/bash_completion that debian provides |
| 22:35.01 | \amethyst | ManuP: then it's in man sshd |
| 22:35.10 | \amethyst | ManuP: under "AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT" |
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| 22:36.00 | enouf | apt-file search authorized_keys |
| 22:36.00 | enouf | openssh-server: usr/share/man/man5/authorized_keys.5.gz |
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| 22:36.40 | dondelelcaro | bash_completion is only ever enabled on interactive shells anyway (and it's only enabled by default for user shells) |
| 22:36.51 | enouf | (it's in pica as well) |
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| 22:37.08 | enouf | (gah. not the man page ;-)) |
| 22:37.08 | dhunter | dondelelcaro: Takes forever to get prompt. take forever launch exacutable. |
| 22:37.23 | dondelelcaro | dhunter: a prompt where? which executables? |
| 22:37.40 | enouf | dhunter: not here |
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| 22:38.28 | dondelelcaro | I mean, if bash is taking a noticeable time to actually execute something, something is seriously wrong. [That said, there are lots of things which take a while to actually show the user anything, but that's got nothing to do with bash] |
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| 22:38.44 | ziyax | Hello, I need to know if there is a way block connection with iptables which is over than some limit like 18000byte |
| 22:38.58 | themill | dhunter: sounds more like something really odd with your .bash_profile then. No problems here with every bash completion thing I can find enabled because I use them a lot and I like them. |
| 22:39.25 | nevyn | ziyax: for a single tcp connection that's doable. |
| 22:39.33 | nevyn | ziyax: but what are you trying to achieve? |
| 22:39.52 | enouf | remote login 'time to obtain prompt' is yet another issue, non-bash related - as is any MOTD issues |
| 22:40.10 | ziyax | nevyn, there is a exploit attacking gameservers it sending more than 18k byte via tcp |
| 22:40.18 | ziyax | there is no patch for it and i want to block it |
| 22:40.27 | ziyax | normal bytes in game not more than 18k |
| 22:40.29 | dhunter | dondelelcaro: Are you using stable? |
| 22:40.43 | ziyax | btw nevyn its single tcp |
| 22:40.50 | dondelelcaro | dhunter: and unstable, yes. |
| 22:41.03 | dondelelcaro | (and some machines running testing too) |
| 22:41.11 | nevyn | ziyax: oh ok as long as you're not dealing with traffic that's lots of connections (like bittorrent) |
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| 22:41.37 | ziyax | nevyn: no dude, we are serving some flash game and server paraboom |
| 22:41.58 | ManuP | \amethyst, right. |
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| 22:42.20 | ziyax | nevyn: is there any example for it? |
| 22:42.21 | dondelelcaro | ziyax: you mean a dos with packets for your gameserver which are larger than 18k? |
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| 22:42.30 | ziyax | dondelelcaro: yes |
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| 22:42.50 | ziyax | dondelelcaro: and i want to block it with iptables be4 it comes to server |
| 22:42.58 | dondelelcaro | ziyax: use --length then |
| 22:43.14 | ziyax | dondelelcaro: im not good at iptables can u give me exact example? |
| 22:43.23 | maxt3r | i have alsa in, and can hear music, but its very low, i have run alsamixer and turn it all up |
| 22:43.25 | dhunter | dondelelcaro: Ok. I login on the console or xterm(default install stable) at least one minute to get a bash prompt. Change my shel to csh and 2 secaonds. |
| 22:43.35 | maxt3r | how do i turn i more up |
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| 22:44.36 | dondelelcaro | dhunter: uh... that sounds like you've got a problem with your .bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc or similar |
| 22:44.37 | up365 | http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2008/01/ |
| 22:44.50 | dhunter | I can switch to a terminal running top and watch bash consume almost all cpu. |
| 22:44.52 | ziyax | iptables v1.3.6: Unknown arg `--length' :/ |
| 22:45.02 | dondelelcaro | dhunter: strace bash when you start it, then. |
| 22:46.04 | maxt3r | i have alsa in, and can hear music, but its very low, i have run alsamixer and turn it all up, how do i turn more up |
| 22:47.19 | dhunter | Ok. I've got to run. I'll come back later and talk about htis. See ya. |
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| 22:48.09 | infinity0 | is it recommended to upgrade from grub to grub2? |
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| 22:48.58 | grendal_prime | hey guys i want to play "beyond the thin red line" on my laptop. Unfortunatly there are Nvidia and ATI drivers with the game itself..I have an intel 810 on my laptop..any sort of ...translator sort of deal for opengl? |
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| 22:49.02 | Azar | hello honorables! |
| 22:49.02 | benjamindees | maxt3r, are you using the line-out jack? |
| 22:49.33 | maxt3r | i thing, have just my headfone on the backside off the computer |
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| 22:49.42 | Azar | awesome, they have irssi for windows too |
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| 22:54.07 | rysiek|pl | hi again |
| 22:54.36 | rysiek|pl | guys, I need some pointers on iptables. google + manpages don't dig it |
| 22:54.57 | rysiek|pl | thing is: I have a "home" machine, then Teh Intertubes |
| 22:55.17 | ManuP | is it possible to sync only a specific file of a directory with unison? |
| 22:55.34 | rysiek|pl | then there is a "gateway" and behind it - a "server" that has some ports (e.g. 20001) open on gateway |
| 22:56.01 | rysiek|pl | and in the same network as serwer - there's a "target" box |
| 22:56.06 | infinity0 | er, people, is it recommended to upgrade from grub to grub2? |
| 22:56.25 | rysiek|pl | now, the idea is to make server redirect all tcp packets it gets on tcp:20001 to target:2020 |
| 22:56.38 | rysiek|pl | infinity0: no, I don't thinks so |
| 22:56.46 | rysiek|pl | infinity0: unless you need the features |
| 22:56.49 | infinity0 | oh, ok |
| 22:56.54 | infinity0 | not ready/stable yet? |
| 22:57.19 | WaffleMatt | grub2 is still in development, from what I can tell |
| 22:57.20 | rysiek|pl | infinity0: hmmm... what "recommended" were you asking aboot? :) |
| 22:57.47 | rysiek|pl | infinity0: "recommended" == "grub1 is considered old and obsolete, move to grub2" |
| 22:57.47 | benjamindees | ManuP, -ignorenot file |
| 22:57.48 | infinity0 | well, "keeping up to date with software progress", i guess |
| 22:58.05 | rysiek|pl | infinity0: I am sure you can stay with grub1 if it works OK for you |
| 22:58.14 | infinity0 | yeah, kk |
| 22:58.29 | rysiek|pl | infinity0: it's definitely being actively supported (bugfixes, etc) if that';s what you're asking about |
| 22:58.48 | infinity0 | yeah, i noticed the grub2 package appearing, that's why |
| 22:59.01 | infinity0 | just was curious why my grub hadn't been marked for an automatic upgrade yet |
| 22:59.11 | ManuP | benjamindees, you mean ignore * and then ignorenot file? |
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| 23:00.29 | benjamindees | ManuP, yes, unison -ignore dir -ignorenot dir/file |
| 23:00.56 | benjamindees | or add similar to your profile |
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| 23:01.54 | ManuP | benjamindees, let me try.... |
| 23:01.58 | elif | that's strange iceweasel (in testing) seems to be more slowly than firefox 2.0.0.14, and I say much more slowly... |
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| 23:03.16 | elif | I thought it shoud be the contrary... anyone had experienced this ? |
| 23:03.40 | zinx | iceweasel is firefox, what version is in testing? |
| 23:05.23 | elif | zinx: yeah I know, but ultimately fitted for debian, but answering you iceweasel is 2.0.0.12 in testing |
| 23:05.52 | ziyax | nevyn, are you there? |
| 23:06.00 | benjamindees | elif, what video card do you use out of curiosity? |
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| 23:07.02 | elif | benjamindees: I have an very old one: sis 630. |
| 23:07.13 | elif | my pc is very old: p3 750. |
| 23:08.12 | rysiek|pl | meh. my home server is Celeron 333 |
| 23:08.15 | rysiek|pl | beat this ;) |
| 23:08.43 | rysiek|pl | anywhoo, any iptables gurus around? |
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| 23:09.03 | lintor | hi all |
| 23:09.09 | lintor | what is the interactive mode? |
| 23:09.40 | ManuP | benjamindees, thank you. works fine. |
| 23:09.49 | rysiek|pl | lintor: of what? aptitude? your home washing machine? |
| 23:10.42 | lintor | rysiek|pl: in Linux. The interactive mode of the Linux kernel. |
| 23:10.51 | rysiek|pl | ah |
| 23:10.58 | rysiek|pl | no idea |
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| 23:16.59 | ulrik | reportbug bailed on some smtp error. And wrote the whole report to /tmp. _but_, reportbug doesn't have any --resume option (?). It would be handy if it helped me out here and would just try the file again.. |
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| 23:20.50 | fas3r | i have create dump of one schema and it's posssible i restore it in other schema ? |
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| 23:22.01 | Wyzard | fas3r: What sort of "schema" are you talking about? |
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| 23:22.40 | fas3r | sorry database .. (who containt all table) |
| 23:22.51 | fas3r | of website for example |
| 23:23.13 | Wyzard | depends on what the schema differences are |
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| 23:23.24 | rysiek|pl | guys, is there a way to forward packets with iptables? |
| 23:23.46 | rysiek|pl | i.e. all packets comming to port 20001 to be forwarded to some_ip:2020 |
| 23:24.01 | Wyzard | If the only difference is that nullable or defaulted columns were added, you should be able to load the old data (which will have nulls or default values in the new columns) |
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| 23:24.07 | hell-jack | hey |
| 23:24.10 | fas3r | if you prefer i want to duplicate it to do test |
| 23:24.19 | hell-jack | i have hp deskjet 5740 |
| 23:24.25 | hell-jack | i am using debian lenny |
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| 23:24.44 | hell-jack | how to recognize this to system |
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| 23:25.43 | hell-jack | anyone here |
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| 23:26.04 | unseensoul | hi |
| 23:26.38 | icesword | unseensoul, hiya |
| 23:26.48 | unseensoul | icesword: :) |
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| 23:27.08 | fas3r | Wyzard: if you want i have database test1 .. and i want to copy it and create Test2 with all date in test1 |
| 23:27.18 | icesword | unseensoul, shouldn't you suppose to be sleeping now |
| 23:27.59 | hell-jack | i installed hplp 2.0.4 |
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| 23:28.07 | unseensoul | I have no lectures tomorrow :P |
| 23:28.16 | hell-jack | but i cannot work because it says you have no gcc |
| 23:28.17 | icesword | :p |
| 23:28.27 | hell-jack | what can i do |
| 23:28.33 | Wyzard | fas3r: Just copying a database to one with a different name isn't a schema change |
| 23:29.09 | themill | !b-e hell-jack |
| 23:29.09 | dpkg | hell-jack: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 23:29.10 | fas3r | Wyzard: ok and it's possible i do this ? |
| 23:29.17 | themill | (whatever hplp is...) |
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| 23:31.25 | Wyzard | fas3r: Yes, just run the dump script on the new database |
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| 23:31.40 | fas3r | hum .. |
| 23:31.40 | unseensoul | my laptop is working pretty great with linux on it, except I can't get the memory stick reader working... any ideas? |
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| 23:32.02 | Wyzard | fas3r: It depends on how you've created your dump, since most database dump tools let you choose whether the output should contain commands for things like creating the tables |
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| 23:32.48 | Wyzard | fas3r: If your dump script begins with commands to actually create the *database*, you'll need to edit it to create it with the new name |
| 23:33.00 | icesword | unseensoul, how do you it isn't working |
| 23:33.03 | icesword | know |
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| 23:33.09 | Wyzard | fas3r: Otherwise, the script expects to be run against an existing (presumably empty) database, so just run it against the new one instead of the old one |
| 23:33.42 | fas3r | i have test to edit the dump file and change the " use "database_name" but it don't work |
| 23:36.22 | unseensoul | icesword: it isn't recognised when I insert the card in... |
| 23:37.20 | icesword | unseensoul, maybe your auto mount is not turned on, attach it, run mount in terminal, see where it is mounted to |
| 23:38.26 | hell-jack | my system doesnt recognize hp deskjet 5740 |
| 23:38.39 | hell-jack | how can i recognize this printer to system |
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| 23:39.18 | unseensoul | icesword: it is impossible to run mount in terminal because there's no dev "file" :\ |
| 23:39.38 | icesword | lsusb |
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| 23:41.43 | Gruelius | Hey all, is the latest version of samba on the debian repo's 3.0.24? |
| 23:42.22 | unseensoul | icesword: it isn't an usb device but a built-in one. It is possible to see the card when running lspci... |
| 23:42.41 | themill | Gruelius: for etch, 3.0.24-6etch9 |
| 23:42.42 | stew | Gruelius: http://packages.debian.org/samba |
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| 23:42.53 | Gruelius | thanks |
| 23:43.02 | Gruelius | im trying to figure out why my samba is a bit bugged |
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| 23:44.03 | ziyax | Hello, I need to know if there is a way block connection with iptables which is over than some limit like 18000byte |
| 23:44.15 | icesword | unseensoul, don't know, sorry |
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| 23:45.19 | unseensoul | icesword: thanks any way ;) |
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| 23:50.51 | hell-jack | i have to download python-devel |
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| 23:51.03 | hell-jack | but i can not find this pkg in standard repo |
| 23:51.12 | hell-jack | how can i downlad and install that |
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| 23:51.26 | Zelta | hell-jack: CUPS doesnt work? |
| 23:51.30 | Zelta | for the printer |
| 23:52.00 | hell-jack | hmm |
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| 23:52.16 | hell-jack | cups doesnt work yes |
| 23:52.27 | hell-jack | my system doesnt see my printer |
| 23:52.38 | hell-jack | my printer is hp deskjet 5740 |
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| 23:53.49 | icesword | www.print.org, hope you will find a solution there |
| 23:54.35 | hell-jack | check it out |
| 23:54.39 | hell-jack | thanks |
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| 23:55.31 | icesword | also see this, http://www.openprinting.org/ |
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| 23:57.59 | vrv | Hello :) i have 3 serial disk and depending on some boot circumstances it could registered under different names in /dev/sdX. am i have any options fix it? |
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| 23:59.32 | Zelta | reinstall |
