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| 00:00.24 | vxd2 | how can i only see the messages being sent out? |
| 00:00.47 | Sam1337 | vxd2: Ask your question more specifically. |
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| 00:02.28 | vxd2 | like i want to see the emails that are being sent out from this box, not those received |
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| 00:09.49 | davidc007 | anyone got experience building kernel for debian with adaptec 5405 support? |
| 00:11.40 | wols | !anyone |
| 00:11.40 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 00:12.07 | davidc007 | how can i build a usb install drive with adaptec 5405 support |
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| 00:12.24 | davidc007 | its an rpm |
| 00:12.27 | wols | !tell davidc007 about custom cd |
| 00:12.43 | wols | davidc007: when you have the kernel.deb the rest is the same like any other usb installer |
| 00:14.01 | vxd2 | what is the point of storing something under /dev/shm/ ? |
| 00:15.23 | davidc007 | thx wols |
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| 00:18.41 | d0uglas | Hi. How can I change the username to which cron stuff and other system info emails are sent? |
| 00:19.16 | markybob | add an alias for root in /etc/aliases |
| 00:19.37 | d0uglas | markybob: that seems to have already happened, i want to undo .. hmm i'll open it |
| 00:19.52 | d0uglas | bingo |
| 00:19.53 | d0uglas | thanks man |
| 00:20.00 | abrotman | d0uglas: MAILTO=foo@blah.com |
| 00:20.19 | markybob | keep in mind you need to run 'newalises' after editing that file |
| 00:20.45 | d0uglas | done, great. |
| 00:20.59 | abrotman | mine was way better |
| 00:21.12 | markybob | at least i'm not a cripple :P |
| 00:21.26 | d0uglas | i'm gonna stay away from this exchange |
| 00:21.49 | abrotman | markybob: it still hurts! |
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| 00:22.02 | markybob | i bet. i feel for ya |
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| 00:23.36 | sudobash | hey i need a good dvd version of the latest debian installation that will also allow for net install.... |
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| 00:23.57 | abrotman | sudobash: they all do ? |
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| 00:25.14 | sudobash | i guess thats why debian kicks ass? |
| 00:25.31 | pythonic | debian doesn't kick my ass |
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| 00:28.31 | vxd2 | chkrootkit reports You have 3 process hidden for ps command |
| 00:28.35 | vxd2 | how can i see them? |
| 00:28.54 | abrotman | they're hidden ? |
| 00:29.06 | cafuego | Rerun chkrootkit and see if there are still 3 hidden processes. |
| 00:30.15 | heroxbd | Hello. When I set up a partition table on an LVM lv, how can I mount the indevidual partitions? What tools made, for example /dev/sda[1,2,3,...], partitions on real hard disks have node in /dev/ ? |
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| 00:31.59 | cafuego | heroxbd: You do not make a partition table on an LVM lv. |
| 00:32.10 | cafuego | heroxbd: You make LVs via lvcreate. |
| 00:32.34 | cafuego | heroxbd: And they are named /dev/<VGNAME>/<LVNAME> |
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| 00:32.38 | vxd2 | cafuego: there are |
| 00:33.12 | cafuego | vxd2: Ok. Install rkhunter as well and give that a go |
| 00:33.14 | cafuego | vxd2: And check for weird files under /tmp and /dev |
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| 00:33.51 | cafuego | heroxbd: ... you get a listing via 'lvs' |
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| 00:34.41 | heroxbd | cafuego: Actually. I am iscsi exporting the lv, and the remote machine created partition tables on it and have various partitions. And I want to read it locally. |
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| 00:36.17 | cafuego | heroxbd: Then I'm afraid I can't help you. |
| 00:36.45 | heroxbd | cafuego: Thanks anyway. |
| 00:37.02 | vxd2 | cafuego: what should i search for in /dev |
| 00:38.28 | heroxbd | We can observe that when we plug in a USB-HDD, then the partitions on the disk can all be enumerated and nodes are created on /dev. I guess we can use the very thing on LVM lv. |
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| 00:39.25 | abrotman | that's like a drug name .. "NOW WITH MORE VITAMINS: HEROX BD!!!" |
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| 00:39.56 | cafuego | vxd2: Anything that looks out of the ordinary, files or dirs that start with a . |
| 00:41.02 | heroxbd | abrotman: Well. "XBD" pronounce like "Sinbad" in Chinese. So my name means "HERO Sinbad" :) |
| 00:41.33 | abrotman | i like mine better :) |
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| 00:44.11 | heroxbd | abrotman: I am getting used to my name now. If I can figure out a good "pure Latin" one, maybe I would like to change. |
| 00:44.28 | abrotman | bob ? |
| 00:44.37 | abrotman | and i meant my interpretation of your nick |
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| 00:46.38 | heroxbd | abrotman: bob. yeah. ok. I would think about it :) |
| 00:46.53 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:47.56 | heroxbd | Hmmm... I guess I'd better ask my question on #lvm. So see you later guys ;) |
| 00:48.06 | Saar | ab rot man - from red man |
| 00:48.33 | Saar | or exit, as of, awaye etc |
| 00:48.39 | abrotman | eh? |
| 00:48.43 | jberg | hmm, my new installation seems very slow. takes a long time when i do man etc.. is this maybe because i have a large raid? will tune2fs -O dir_index,sparse_super help or is it something else? |
| 00:48.51 | Saar | just translating your nick from german |
| 00:49.12 | Saar | since ab rot and man are valid german words |
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| 00:55.13 | wols | jberg: check the transferspeeds of each of your raid disks with hdparm |
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| 01:01.46 | davidc007 | why didn't they create the installer dialog so it could load an alternate disk driver from the detect disks section? |
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| 01:02.12 | davidc007 | i keep pressing f6 and then remember it's not windows |
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| 01:04.04 | jberg | wols: hmm okay |
| 01:04.18 | vxd2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:07.47 | markybob | vxd2, in postfix, just add "always_bcc=adminuser@yourdomain.dom" to /etc/postfix/main.cf |
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| 01:11.43 | Zobobob | can I access my debian files from windows with cygwin? |
| 01:12.24 | markybob | Zobobob, http://www.fs-driver.org/ |
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| 01:12.27 | wols | Zobobob: no. but you can with fs-driver.org |
| 01:14.06 | Zobobob | damnit, this is windows 98 and that needs nt. |
| 01:14.20 | lontra | what about using ssh? |
| 01:14.58 | Zobobob | ssh is for accessing another computer |
| 01:15.22 | lontra | yeah and you could access your files that way |
| 01:15.54 | Zobobob | I screwed up my entire ext3 partition, made every file 644 somehow |
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| 01:19.01 | abrotman | how do you think windows98 is going to fix that ? |
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| 01:20.53 | wols | Zobobob: how much RAM does the machine have? tho, the premissions snafu, only a reinstall will help |
| 01:20.56 | sudobash | is there any way to optimize debian for AMD Atlon 64 X2 dual core processors? |
| 01:21.07 | wols | sudobash: not |
| 01:21.08 | wols | -t |
| 01:21.19 | wols | you can get a kernel for your CPU and a libc6 for i686 |
| 01:21.22 | abrotman | sudobash: optimize how? |
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| 01:22.14 | vxd2 | %l -x -u mail what does that do? |
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| 01:23.14 | wols | vxd2: nothing. as it stands there it's gibberish and meainingless |
| 01:23.22 | wols | %1 is not any command |
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| 01:24.14 | vxd2 | wols: i got that from netstat -nap output |
| 01:24.43 | wols | netstat gives process/file names |
| 01:24.45 | wols | not %1 |
| 01:25.04 | ninjaslim | is there a java plugin for amd64, i know FreeBSD has a 64-bit version |
| 01:25.06 | wols | it also gives out PIDs |
| 01:25.18 | ninjaslim | if you compile from source |
| 01:25.30 | wols | ninjaslim: there is none from sun. the is a gcj based one |
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| 01:25.51 | ninjaslim | wols: i see, is the gcj one a recompiled version of the 1.6 |
| 01:25.57 | wols | no |
| 01:26.21 | ninjaslim | wols: oh how does FreeBSD have 64-bit java then |
| 01:26.22 | wols | it's not Sun java at all, gcj is from GNU and uses it's own VM and class library |
| 01:26.30 | wols | ask freebsd and not us |
| 01:26.42 | ninjaslim | no that's a rhetorical question welll didn't seem likeit |
| 01:26.48 | ninjaslim | do you know if the gcj one is stable |
| 01:26.51 | markybob | there's 64-bit java runtime, but not plugin. you're probably mixing them up |
| 01:27.00 | vxd2 | wols: it's spamd . the pid |
| 01:27.21 | wols | vxd2: so check its manpage/docs |
| 01:27.41 | ninjaslim | so how do i install the java plugin i have java-gcj and sun-java6 installed |
| 01:27.54 | wols | gcj-webplugin I think |
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| 01:30.12 | unixSnob | Anyone here try booting solid state drive instead of a hdd? |
| 01:30.22 | unixSnob | I recently got debian booting off an SD card |
| 01:30.45 | abrotman | and? |
| 01:30.51 | unixSnob | I really appeared to boot and run faster (didn't do any lengthy transfers) |
| 01:30.59 | unixSnob | s/I/It |
| 01:31.14 | markybob | ... |
| 01:31.16 | unixSnob | But it could be all in my head.. that's the effect I was expecting |
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| 01:31.48 | unixSnob | I was just wondering if many folks are booting from SDDs these days, to get faster performance |
| 01:32.52 | unixSnob | I ran "find / -type f" as a test, and it was probably done in under 4 seconds |
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| 01:33.34 | unixSnob | This is not a high end SD chip either.. just a cheapo 1GB, probably the slowest out there considering what I paid for it |
| 01:33.56 | markybob | dude, sorry to burst your bubble, but we really dont care. go to #debian-offtopic if you just like to talk |
| 01:34.24 | unixSnob | markybob: try /ignore unixSnob |
| 01:34.37 | markybob | i'm not the one who's off topic |
| 01:34.38 | unixSnob | hopefully your client supports it |
| 01:34.49 | unixSnob | no, this is a debian system |
| 01:34.58 | unixSnob | debian netinst on sdd |
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| 01:37.21 | abrotman | unixSnob: have you met nvz ? |
| 01:37.35 | unixSnob | no |
| 01:39.15 | wols | abrotman: do all morons now have to meet nvz? |
| 01:39.37 | abrotman | wols: does that bother you? |
| 01:39.45 | wols | sorta |
| 01:39.59 | wols | unless he pays my airfare |
| 01:40.12 | abrotman | we could have them talk to stoned instead :) |
| 01:40.18 | asg | wols: we are still hoping that someone will meet nvz and cancel each other out |
| 01:40.22 | wols | no! please! |
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| 01:44.34 | wols_ | is it possible to do a "daemon" ssh tunnel where ssh won't take my terminal? |
| 01:45.49 | asg | wols: -N iirc |
| 01:46.29 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.45 | wols_ | would the local bin/ssh stay open in the background? |
| 01:47.06 | wols_ | I don't care if it runs bash on the remote end. I want the local one to be invisible. just a tunnel |
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| 01:47.33 | wols_ | and not take up one of my screen windows |
| 01:47.54 | asg | wols: my understanding is that -N is used for this purpose |
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| 01:51.57 | wols_ | asg: it asks for pw and stays there then. maybe with key based auth and "nohup ssh&" it might work |
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| 01:52.20 | asg | wols_: yes, it will require key-based and nohup or '&' |
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| 02:03.19 | dudeman | hi |
| 02:03.23 | dub | wols_, if you're already using screen and you cant figure this out.. maybe you need to go see nvz |
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| 02:05.08 | wols_ | is lazy and didn't want to set up key based auth |
| 02:05.34 | dudeman | simonrvn, ping |
| 02:05.45 | asg | @pong |
| 02:05.46 | ravenbird | methinks pong is the best name on IRC eg. /ping pong |
| 02:05.58 | dudeman | asg, heh |
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| 02:21.34 | zkline | Hm. I'm a bit confused by the difference between kbd and console-tools. Any input on which I should use? |
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| 02:53.39 | SpookyET | How the fuck do you take the most stable linux distribution -- debian -- and turn into a steaming pile of buggy diarrhea -- no wonder they love brown so much? |
| 02:54.28 | snogglethorpe | SpookyET: paint? |
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| 02:54.51 | Lagbolt | SpookyET, ubuntu? |
| 02:54.52 | Lagbolt | lol |
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| 02:55.06 | snogglethorpe | must be the power of python |
| 02:55.26 | buu | At least it isn't centos |
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| 02:55.53 | wols_ | ubuntu has a connection to python? |
| 02:56.09 | SpookyET | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.14 | snogglethorpe | import diarrhea; |
| 02:56.28 | markybob | wols_, lot of their custom stuff is python. such as displaygtk-config |
| 02:56.33 | wols_ | SpookyET: xandros, knoppix, mepis, sidux, kanotix... |
| 02:56.47 | Lagbolt | wols . . . lol nice . . what about linspire? |
| 02:56.51 | SpookyET | wols_: only one is brown |
| 02:56.57 | wols_ | perl gui support is.... not so good |
| 02:57.11 | wols_ | so that means another script lang is needed. python has nice gui toolkits |
| 02:57.12 | buu | In what world? |
| 02:57.18 | gravity | python is a nice language |
| 02:57.30 | buu | wols_: Perl and Python have like, the exact same windowing tool kits. |
| 02:57.52 | wols_ | buu: no |
| 02:57.56 | markybob | problem is that it's easy to use, so a lot of clueless kiddies do a lot of shit work with it |
| 02:58.01 | wols_ | e.g. there is no wx. |
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| 02:58.08 | gravity | snogglethorpe: Python doesn't terminate statements like import with a semicolon btw |
| 02:58.13 | wols_ | markybob: could be worse, they could use php |
| 02:58.22 | pablo | hi, which is the package that contains the manpages of the c library? |
| 02:58.30 | gravity | markybob: Same can be said of *every* language |
| 02:58.30 | wols_ | !tell pablo about search |
| 02:58.50 | markybob | gravity, not really. it takes a *lot* more to make a shit gtkmm app than pygtk |
| 02:58.51 | wols_ | gravity: not really. C is harder than java for the average kiddie |
| 02:59.13 | wols_ | markybob: neither of them is a language |
| 02:59.22 | gravity | markybob: You've never seen shit C++? I don't know what sort of code you've been reading. |
| 02:59.40 | wols_ | gravity: but less kiddies _use_ C++ |
| 02:59.43 | gravity | wols_: I've seen and written shitty C code. It's absurdly easy to write bad C, so there's tons of it |
| 02:59.46 | wols_ | they all use php or vb |
| 02:59.54 | gravity | wols_: That has nothing to do with it. |
| 03:00.14 | snogglethorpe | gravity: now, now, calm down |
| 03:00.19 | gravity | Just because they can write shit code in another language doesn't mean that language makes it any easier to write shitty code. If they didn't have python they'd be overflowing buffers in C |
| 03:00.22 | wols_ | gravity: programmers are a pyramid, the farther you go up (the better they are), the less of them there are. and the bottom doesn't even start |
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| 03:00.46 | wols_ | so you have the choice of a broad base writing shitty php code or a middle area where they write shitty C or good script code |
| 03:01.05 | gravity | I'm saying blame the coder, not the language |
| 03:01.12 | gravity | Blaming Python for bad code is absurd |
| 03:01.17 | wols_ | and the peter principle shows they will write the shitty C code of course, BUT: there is a smaller absolute number. hence: less shitty code |
| 03:01.34 | wols_ | some languages make it easier to write bad code than others |
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| 03:01.37 | snogglethorpe | gravity: python picks up a lot of shit by association though |
| 03:01.41 | gravity | Especially when Python is much better about encouraging good code than languages like C |
| 03:01.43 | wols_ | looks at php |
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| 03:01.52 | gravity | snogglethorpe: Like what? To be honest most of the python coders I know are damn smart |
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| 03:02.03 | snogglethorpe | gravity: heh |
| 03:02.14 | unix_infidel | wols_: i'd imagine it's just as hard to write insecure / bad python as it is perl cgi or php |
| 03:02.16 | crweb | what the language encourages or doesn't encourages isn't important. |
| 03:02.21 | snogglethorpe | gravity: perhaps decaf? |
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| 03:02.22 | unix_infidel | erm, just as easy. |
| 03:02.27 | pablo | wols_: cant find the package with the manpages of the c library |
| 03:02.36 | wols_ | pablo: how did you look? |
| 03:02.38 | gravity | snogglethorpe: Troll somewhere else, kthxby |
| 03:02.39 | crweb | you should have people that know how to do good code in the language working on your project and reject the rest. |
| 03:03.08 | crweb | pablo: manpages-dev |
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| 03:03.12 | pablo | wols_: installed the manpages and glibc-doc |
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| 03:03.28 | lfs | Is there wine and gnash for AMD-64? |
| 03:03.30 | wols_ | pablo: installing is not searching. how did you search? |
| 03:03.47 | wols_ | lfs: wine only as a 32bit version I think, but available |
| 03:04.19 | pablo | wols_: apt-cache search manpages c |
| 03:04.32 | wols_ | pablo: use apt-file or pdo instead |
| 03:04.33 | gonzaloaf | hi, I have installed netbeans and sun-java6-jdk but when I try to run java in a terminal I receive this error: -su: java: command not found |
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| 03:04.37 | lfs | Debian:/home/lfs# apt-cache search wine |
| 03:04.37 | lfs | tellico - collection manager for books, videos, music |
| 03:04.37 | lfs | tellico-data - collection manager for books, videos, music [data] |
| 03:04.37 | lfs | wine-doc - Windows Emulator (Documentation) |
| 03:04.37 | lfs | xwine - graphical user interface for the WINE emulator |
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| 03:05.30 | pablo | crweb: great thanks, is there a similar one for c++? |
| 03:05.30 | lfs | apt-cache search wine brings no wine |
| 03:05.33 | crweb | lfs: did you enable contrib and non-free |
| 03:05.37 | wols_ | !tell gonzaloaf about search |
| 03:06.01 | lfs | For gnash also? |
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| 03:06.33 | buu | wols_: Of course there is |
| 03:06.35 | buu | wols_: Don't be silly |
| 03:06.47 | lfs | How to enable contrib and non-free? |
| 03:06.51 | wols_ | gonzaloaf: sun-java6-jre |
| 03:07.02 | wols_ | buu: what is there? |
| 03:07.04 | buu | wols_: wx |
| 03:07.17 | gonzaloaf | wols_, is it installed |
| 03:07.32 | crweb | pablo: no, there are no man pages that i know of for C++ |
| 03:07.43 | pablo | crweb: ok thx |
| 03:07.50 | crweb | pablo: there are some odd documentation packages etc. The best resource is to google free C++ docs |
| 03:08.33 | wols_ | buu: wx 2.6? |
| 03:09.11 | gonzaloaf | wols_, http://pastebin.ca/1033709 |
| 03:09.38 | Lagbolt | !contrib |
| 03:09.38 | dpkg | well, contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free). To get packages in contrib, add lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'contrib' and possibly 'non-free' on the end. Ask me about <non-free> |
| 03:10.18 | wols_ | pablo: cppreference.com |
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| 03:11.05 | pablo | wols_: ok thx |
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| 03:11.57 | gonzaloaf | what are the values for $JAVA_HOME and $PLUGIN_HOME? for sun-java6 ? |
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| 03:13.10 | lfs | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
| 03:13.10 | lfs | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
| 03:13.24 | lfs | Is this good for wine? |
| 03:13.40 | crweb | you still didn't add contrib ;) |
| 03:13.50 | crweb | deb <url> etch main contrib nonfree |
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| 03:13.53 | lfs | deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib |
| 03:13.54 | lfs | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib |
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| 03:14.06 | hark | you don't need contrib to get wine |
| 03:14.21 | crweb | hark: it doesn't show up in his search |
| 03:14.23 | lfs | I have amd-64 |
| 03:14.47 | mohadib | hello im now using dhclient 3.0.6 , but it fails to obtain an address from my dhcpserver , any ideas what could be going wrong |
| 03:14.51 | hark | lfs: that's why |
| 03:15.03 | crweb | hark: wine is availabe for amd64 |
| 03:15.07 | lfs | So no wine for amd-64? |
| 03:15.11 | hark | lfs: it's in lenny nd upwards |
| 03:15.15 | crweb | ah ok |
| 03:15.24 | lfs | What about gnash? |
| 03:15.50 | hark | lfs: try backports |
| 03:15.51 | markybob | !tell lfs about search |
| 03:15.51 | crweb | lfs: honestly if its a non-production machine I'd upgrade to lenny |
| 03:15.55 | crweb | or backports |
| 03:15.59 | crweb | markybob: ? |
| 03:16.07 | lfs | So just put lenny in source.list? |
| 03:16.13 | lfs | in place of etch? |
| 03:16.50 | crweb | yes, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade (will take a while and lots of downloading) |
| 03:17.03 | crweb | unless etch -> lenny is broken |
| 03:17.09 | crweb | I do not have that information. |
| 03:17.48 | hark | lfs: no, use backports |
| 03:17.54 | lfs | I think etch was testing when I installed this. |
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| 03:18.06 | crweb | lfs: i'd def upgrade ;) |
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| 03:18.07 | lfs | backports? |
| 03:18.11 | buu | wols_: MyClass.prototype.constructor = function() { MyClass.counter++} |
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| 03:18.15 | hark | !tell lfs about bpo |
| 03:18.16 | buu | wols_: Gah, stupid centos |
| 03:18.23 | buu | wols_: http://wxperl.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:18.25 | crweb | lfs: lots of amd64 changes that are very good since etch |
| 03:18.35 | jdahm | for a while I could not delete characters in a screen over ssh, is this a default setting on debian? |
| 03:19.21 | lfs | BUt if i do backports couldn't I have trouble moving to lenny? |
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| 03:21.09 | wols_ | lfs: you could |
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| 03:21.47 | wols_ | jdahm: fix your terminal emulation then |
| 03:22.33 | snogglethorpe | jdahm: default setting of what? |
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| 03:22.52 | lfs | If I can get wine going I can quit using Vista |
| 03:23.20 | jdahm | snogglethorpe: wols_ fine then it's the crappy os x terminal emulation |
| 03:23.24 | lfs | I need to play Pokerstars. |
| 03:23.41 | Gun_Smoke | lfs: Nice |
| 03:23.43 | hark | lfs: wine in backports has a lower version number than the one presently in lenny. So, it'll just upgrade it safely when you decide to dist-upgrade to lenny. |
| 03:24.06 | Gun_Smoke | How can I get the print out of the boot screen to read over it for the errors? |
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| 03:24.20 | lfs | You cant |
| 03:24.36 | hark | Gun_Smoke: /msg dpkg bootlog |
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| 03:26.23 | lfs | Do you want screen before going into OS? |
| 03:26.46 | Gun_Smoke | lfs: No, |
| 03:26.47 | jdahm | what is the difference betwene putting etch and stable in ../apt/sources.list? |
| 03:26.54 | jdahm | is it the same thing? |
| 03:27.01 | Gun_Smoke | hark: Thanks, that was what I was looking for. |
| 03:27.05 | Gun_Smoke | brb. |
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| 03:29.11 | CodeBlock | can someone give me a quick rundown on start-stop-daemon? i want to use it to start a program on boot, as a user, and probably background it. |
| 03:29.43 | lfs | What was before Etch? |
| 03:30.16 | CodeBlock | lfs: was that at me? |
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| 03:30.36 | lfs | no, just wondering |
| 03:31.04 | CodeBlock | dont know :( |
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| 03:32.18 | lunk | hello, i'm having trouble detecting the cdrom |
| 03:32.30 | lunk | it's a p35 board with a marvell chipset ide cdrom |
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| 03:33.57 | gonzaloaf | can somebody help me to setting the JAVA_HOME var? |
| 03:34.36 | lunk | gonzaloaf: http://pastebin.com/m28ecdc27 |
| 03:34.50 | lunk | that is my .bash_profile last few lines |
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| 03:35.20 | gonzaloaf | lunk, if I'm using the java6 provided debian? |
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| 03:36.14 | lunk | gonzaloaf: ah, i always use local user copies |
| 03:36.42 | Gun_Smoke | Must I configure MTA? It takes forever on boot. I don't really use anything other than Gmail. |
| 03:36.51 | gonzaloaf | lunk, you mean the sun's releases? |
| 03:37.05 | gonzaloaf | lunk, how do I tell netbeans to use this jdk? |
| 03:37.21 | dondelelcaro | Gun_Smoke: you can just use nullmailer, which takes almost no time at boot |
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| 03:39.05 | Gun_Smoke | dondelelcaro: So I've ran dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and now if I select "no configuration at this time" will that wipe any current setting? |
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| 03:42.09 | Gun_Smoke | nevermind.. I see that if I install nullmailer it will remove the current mailserver. |
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| 03:43.10 | wwasher | yikes! aptitude update returns: There are 1671 newly obsolete packages. |
| 03:43.33 | wwasher | synaptic tells me there are a dozen to update. what gives? |
| 03:44.10 | wwasher | i suppose it is fair to report also that i'm on testing. |
| 03:44.13 | gonzaloaf | where do I have to set a variable to be use for all wide users? |
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| 03:44.41 | Gun_Smoke | wwasher: Change your sources.list? |
| 03:45.50 | wwasher | Gun_Smoke: i should or did I? I haven't changed anything, but there were a slew of obsolete last time i ran aptitude |
| 03:46.08 | Gun_Smoke | You upgraded from etch? |
| 03:46.41 | wwasher | Gun_Smoke: not in months |
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| 03:47.44 | wwasher | i pull updates from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing |
| 03:47.55 | Gun_Smoke | wwasher: No idea, I've seen that after a dist-upgrade |
| 03:52.00 | Gun_Smoke | What is going on with DHCPDISCOVER? This is also taking over a minute to work through on boot? http://paste.debian.net/4648/ |
| 03:52.37 | dondelelcaro | Gun_Smoke: it's trying to get an address for your machine. |
| 03:53.19 | dondelelcaro | Gun_Smoke: if you don't have a network that uses dhcp, either don't bring up the interface, or use a static address, or similar. |
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| 03:54.41 | Gun_Smoke | dondelelcaro: I think it might be beacuse I don't use eth0. But wireless doesn't connect until after I login. |
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| 03:56.34 | dondelelcaro | Gun_Smoke: well, then don't bring up eth0; modify your /etc/network/interfaces accordingly. |
| 03:56.44 | Pulpie | Math books piss me off they never fully explain how they get the answers at the back of the book |
| 03:56.59 | dondelelcaro | Pulpie: buy a solutions guide |
| 03:57.16 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: screw that I dont even buy my math books |
| 03:57.17 | Gun_Smoke | dondelelcaro: Thanks, /etc/network/ was my next question. |
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| 03:59.58 | kelvin911 | anyone know how to install Canon MP210 all-in-one printer??? |
| 04:00.07 | jdahm | how does unstable differ from sid from testing? |
| 04:01.00 | ice63 | try printconf |
| 04:01.35 | Pulpie | jdahm: the difference from lenny and sid is that sid is extremely unstable and can be considered dangerous to the OS and lenny is unstable but the system will last longer then any windows OS still. |
| 04:01.47 | Pulpie | :P |
| 04:01.58 | gravity | jdahm: sid and unstable are the same thing |
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| 04:02.11 | Pulpie | oh wait lenny is stable now huh? |
| 04:02.12 | jdahm | Pulpie: ah, thanks! so I should use testing? |
| 04:02.22 | jdahm | oh |
| 04:02.23 | jdahm | ok |
| 04:02.27 | Pulpie | jdahm: I would use stable |
| 04:02.37 | Pulpie | !stabe |
| 04:02.39 | jdahm | Pulpie: I need things from testing and unstable though |
| 04:02.40 | Pulpie | !stable |
| 04:02.40 | dpkg | hmm... stable is the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Etch (4.0r3), or ask me about <releases>. |
| 04:02.53 | gravity | lenny isn't stable yet |
| 04:03.01 | Pulpie | what is lenny then |
| 04:03.13 | Pulpie | testing? |
| 04:03.39 | gravity | Yes |
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| 04:04.08 | dondelelcaro | Pulpie: then talk to your teachers or TAs; that's what they're there for. |
| 04:04.18 | gravity | jdahm: Packages automatically transition from unstable to testing when they've gone a certain amount of time with no new major bugs. |
| 04:04.45 | gravity | jdahm: They will still have some bugs, but most major things are caught before they reach testing |
| 04:04.56 | dondelelcaro | at least, in theory. |
| 04:05.03 | gravity | jdahm: Packages in unstable are uploaded directly by the developer, so they haven't been tested |
| 04:05.06 | gravity | dondelelcaro: ;-) |
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| 04:05.15 | gravity | jdahm: At least, not by the Debian community at large |
| 04:05.32 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: wtf are you talking about |
| 04:05.41 | Lagbolt | Pulpie, the answers are not to show you how :-p just to tease you |
| 04:06.02 | gravity | jdahm: There's all sorts of violations of these things though, like uploads directly to testing for security, or pushing packages in to transition a large number of packages in the event of something big, like a programming language upgrade |
| 04:06.10 | gravity | jdahm: But by and large, that's how it works. |
| 04:06.14 | Pulpie | Lagbolt: lol |
| 04:06.27 | wwasher | Gun_Smoke: yeah, i've seen monster obselesence like this during dist-upgrades, but I've made no such changes. Then also, why does aptitude tell me there is so much made obselete, whereas synaptic doesn't think so? |
| 04:06.28 | jdahm | gravity: ah thanks! well if I'm still at stable how can I install the b43 wireless driver? |
| 04:06.31 | jdahm | while we're at it |
| 04:06.47 | gravity | jdahm: You can probably grab a kernel from backports.org |
| 04:07.17 | gravity | jdahm: Alternately, you can roll your own kernel from kernel.org or wherever. Debian fully supports custom kernels |
| 04:07.34 | wwasher | hm - i have always thought that i was running testing; why does /etc/debian_version say "lenny/sid"? why "sid"? |
| 04:07.45 | Lagbolt | Pulpie, besides you should be able to figure it out :) G * a + y = gay |
| 04:07.49 | dondelelcaro | jdahm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Debian-package-cycle.png may be informative, too. |
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| 04:08.26 | gravity | wwasher: It's impossible to tell programmatically which of the two you're running because of the nature of the archive, so that's what people write for the development versions |
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| 04:09.13 | wwasher | gravity, I see. Thanks. At least I don't think i screwed up somehow and started running an all-Sid, all-the-time setup |
| 04:09.23 | netdaemon | hrm |
| 04:09.27 | dondelelcaro | wwasher: though lsb_release tries really hard to guess. |
| 04:09.33 | netdaemon | anyone know status of openjdk making it to debian? |
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| 04:09.35 | Pulpie | Lagbolt: yeah then why do all the newest movies suck if people are so smart? |
| 04:09.50 | Lagbolt | Pulpie, what does that have to do with movies? |
| 04:09.53 | gravity | wwasher: Yeah, your sources.list and a working knowledge of your machine's history is the best way to tell what you're running. |
| 04:10.12 | dondelelcaro | Pulpie, Lagbolt: #debian-offtopic is that way... |
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| 04:10.26 | Pascat | Hellos! |
| 04:10.29 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: which way <---> |
| 04:10.40 | Pulpie | ^ |
| 04:10.41 | Pulpie | | |
| 04:10.42 | Pulpie | v |
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| 04:11.33 | streuner | hm |
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| 04:12.43 | Pascat | I'm wondering... Does anyone 'bout here know a little program that would run in background and notify me whenever an email (Gmail would be perfect!) gets in my mailbox? >.> |
| 04:12.57 | Lagbolt | Pascat, there is one for xfce |
| 04:13.11 | Pascat | xfce? |
| 04:13.17 | Lagbolt | Pascat, sure there are others. . . . do you want it to be in a toolbar? or just popup? |
| 04:13.42 | Lagbolt | Pascat, gmail-notify - A Gmail Notifier |
| 04:13.43 | Pascat | Toolbar prefered, but popup would work as well. |
| 04:13.56 | Lagbolt | Pascat, apt-cache search mail | grep notif |
| 04:14.07 | Pascat | ... lol. |
| 04:14.29 | Lagbolt | :) Pascat i have a question. . . how hard did you look before you asked? |
| 04:14.44 | Lagbolt | Pascat, apt-cache search gmail |
| 04:15.07 | Pascat | I googled for it...but did't really search for the right words >.> |
| 04:15.12 | wwasher | good grief! it might have done the update and told me only a dozen needed upgrade (and nothing else), but it sure is taking its sweet time in marking upgrades |
| 04:15.17 | Lagbolt | Pascat, you use debian. . . apt-cache search is a great tool |
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| 04:17.25 | wwasher | nevermind |
| 04:17.29 | wwasher | grumbles |
| 04:17.30 | grndslm | what's wrong with aptitude search?? |
| 04:17.54 | dondelelcaro | grndslm: nothing; it just searches different things |
| 04:18.07 | dondelelcaro | (and is a bit slower) |
| 04:18.28 | grndslm | hmm... i wouldn't notice a speed difference, but why would it search different things? |
| 04:18.49 | grndslm | i've always heard aptitude was smarter, like it would remove all unused dependencies, etc... |
| 04:18.50 | dondelelcaro | grndslm: because aptitude search knows about the package status; apt-cache does not. |
| 04:19.47 | dondelelcaro | grndslm: you can do fun things like aptitude search '~i!~M' or aptitude search '?narrow(?repository(experimental),?status(installed))'; or similar. [last may not be exactly correct.] |
| 04:19.50 | Lagbolt | nothing wrong with aptitude search |
| 04:19.51 | Lagbolt | :) |
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| 04:20.20 | Lagbolt | grndslm, apt-get has autoremove for that . . . but aptitude def is nice for not breaking things or coming up with solutions |
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| 04:21.50 | grndslm | hmm, i'll have to look into those aptitude search terms.... |
| 04:22.18 | grndslm | for now, tho... who would i complain to about a new version of metacity?? |
| 04:22.30 | grndslm | gnome devs? |
| 04:22.42 | wwasher | grndslm : aptitude told me that i had 1600 newly obsolete packages; synaptic reports a dozen. i run testing and ive not dist-upgraded in a long while. |
| 04:23.01 | wwasher | oh, nevermind (again) |
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| 04:25.36 | grndslm | for now, tho... who would i complain to about a new version of metacity?? gnome devs? |
| 04:26.41 | grndslm | i used to hit ESC while inside the window switcher to revert back to the original window I was using before I entered the window switcher... but that's not how it works anymore |
| 04:26.49 | grndslm | real bummer for me... there was no point in changing that |
| 04:27.24 | dondelelcaro | grndslm: you shouldn't complain, but what you can do that would be really useful is to help out. |
| 04:28.12 | grndslm | i'll help out by giving my input... but i'm no good at programming! too much for my small brain to remember |
| 04:29.28 | debian2_6_24_1am | i just count my blessings i get to come home to debian after using xp at work all day |
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| 04:31.08 | dondelelcaro | grndslm: you don't need to be, actually |
| 04:31.41 | dondelelcaro | grndslm: going through and replicating bugs would be a huge help. |
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| 04:35.06 | wwasher | is there somewhere in aptitude that it tells you WHY it chooses to keep a package a particular version or not remove a package? icannot see why it wants to keep gcc at 4.3-03 and not goto 4.3-04 |
| 04:35.10 | home_ | Anyone running Lenny? |
| 04:35.11 | wwasher | er, 4.3-05 |
| 04:35.22 | Lagbolt | home_, i do |
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| 04:35.36 | Lagbolt | or was i supposed to say !any |
| 04:35.36 | Lagbolt | lol |
| 04:35.40 | home_ | Lagbolt, Stable? |
| 04:35.50 | dondelelcaro | wwasher: aptitude why; will tell you some of it. You can also use the curses interface, and hit + on that version, and see what breaks. |
| 04:35.53 | Lagbolt | home_, do you mean do i think it is stable? |
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| 04:36.17 | Lagbolt | home_, i think it is perfectly stable but i am not using packages that have huge numbers of dependencies |
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| 04:51.21 | sulo | Hello |
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| 04:51.50 | jcm | hi, running etch/2.6.18 on a KT7-RAID mainboard, i'm trying to make a Seagate SATAII hd work via a Promise SATA 300 TX2plus (sata_promise). I get disabled status after ata1.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4). |
| 04:52.38 | abusado | Im running Debian ETCH wondering what to put in the iptables rule set to protect my server against ddos attacks |
| 04:52.54 | sulo | abusado, www.netfilter.org |
| 04:53.09 | abusado | thanks solo |
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| 04:53.21 | markybob | abusado, it's not *that* simple, but there are tools for it, like http://deflate.medialayer.com/ |
| 04:53.24 | abusado | I dont really understand this iptable thing'ish |
| 04:53.39 | abusado | I already installed fail2ban |
| 04:53.49 | abusado | but i think it will only protect agains ssh bruteforce |
| 04:53.53 | markybob | i'd use deflate. it uses iptables in its backend |
| 04:55.05 | abusado | ok i'll try |
| 04:55.23 | abusado | By the way I'm running ircd.. |
| 04:55.37 | abusado | deflate does not conflict with ircd clients? |
| 04:55.46 | markybob | nope, it's fine |
| 04:56.05 | abusado | ok i'll just read the code first |
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| 04:56.19 | abusado | thanks markybob, what a coincedence my name is also mark |
| 04:56.31 | ice63 | msg dpkg nvidia |
| 04:56.47 | markybob | abusado, np :) |
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| 04:57.01 | jcm | abusado: I use shorewall.net that is a frontend to iptables |
| 04:57.56 | markybob | shorewall isnt really for ddos, though |
| 04:58.19 | abusado | markybob deflate is for debian? |
| 04:58.30 | markybob | abusado, it runs on any linux/unix |
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| 05:01.51 | dr_watson | Hi, I'm trying to install debian etch on my laptop using a custom netinstall cd, containing drivers for my intel agb3945 wireless netcard. For some reason it cannot connect to the local network, giving me "Network is down" when trying. |
| 05:04.10 | Vasistha | dr_watson: where'd you get this "custom" netinstall cd? |
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| 05:05.04 | dr_watson | Vasistha, I got it from a page called "No Cook, No Life" |
| 05:05.34 | dr_watson | http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2624-etch2.htm |
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| 05:07.21 | markybob | etch's installer has wireless-config? |
| 05:07.25 | markybob | never done a wireless install |
| 05:07.35 | BubbaT | I have a live debian CD, to which I would like to add certain packages. The problem is with dependency, there are a lot of packages. So I would like to do apt-get -d to get them all. The problem is this: for some reason this computer wont boot from the CD. Is there some way to get the computer to behave like it mounted from the iso so I can download these packages? |
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| 05:08.02 | Vasistha | dr_watson: the only advice I can really give you is to try doing your install with a WIRED connection (and preferably a regular debian netinstall) and then work on getting the wireless working once you've got the base system up and running. We can't really support these unofficial d-i's here |
| 05:08.18 | BubbaT | Short of a virtual machine that is. Virtual machines are really slow on this machine. |
| 05:08.27 | markybob | dr_watson, one thing you might wanna try is irc.oftc.org #debian-boot |
| 05:08.33 | markybob | dr_watson, that's the official installer channel |
| 05:08.51 | dr_watson | markw, thans, I'll talk to those guys |
| 05:09.04 | dr_watson | Vasistha, allright, thanks for the advice |
| 05:09.18 | jdahm | I am having trouble getting the b43-fwcutter package. I somehow can't do 'apt-get -t testing install b43-fwcutter' it says package not found. Do I have to add a line to sources.list? |
| 05:09.22 | markw | dr_watson: what guys? |
| 05:09.43 | dr_watson | Vasistha, maybe it'd be better just to download the full cd-set? |
| 05:09.51 | markybob | jdahm, do you have non-free in there? |
| 05:10.13 | jdahm | markybob: nope :P |
| 05:10.13 | Vasistha | dr_watson: well ... is it absolutely impossible to get a wired connection during your installation? |
| 05:10.13 | markybob | jdahm, ah, sorry, it's contrib, not non-free |
| 05:10.23 | jdahm | markybob: I have contrib in there though |
| 05:10.36 | markybob | jdahm, http://packages.debian.org/lenny/b43-fwcutter |
| 05:10.37 | dr_watson | Vasistha, yes |
| 05:10.44 | dr_watson | Vasistha, I'm afraid so |
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| 05:11.14 | markybob | jdahm, have you updated recently? |
| 05:11.17 | jdahm | markybob: thats in testing... should I add 'deb SOME_MIRROR testing main contrib' to my sources.list? |
| 05:11.24 | jdahm | markybob: yeah, but I'm running stable |
| 05:11.24 | Vasistha | dr_watson: if so ... you still probably really only need the 1st cd, or the 1st and 2nd cds ... you *might* even be able to make do with the base system you get from the netinst CD -- I've done several installs that way, just installing the base system from the netinst cd, then getting wireless working on that basic text-only system, and upgrading afterwards. |
| 05:11.51 | niru | echo -e "$x\n" "*tc4200*) \n. /usr/share/hotkey-setup/hp-tablet.hk \n;;" whi |
| 05:11.58 | Vasistha | dr_watson: downloading the whole set of 17 or whatever is almost definitely a waste of time and bandwidth. The 1st cd is probably sufficient |
| 05:12.00 | niru | echo -e "$x\n" "*tc4200*) \n. /usr/share/hotkey-setup/hp-tablet.hk \n;;" will echo the statememnt |
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| 05:12.01 | markybob | jdahm, sorry. dont know why i thought you said testing. /msg dpkg ssb for instructions |
| 05:12.07 | niru | I wna to append that to a file |
| 05:12.10 | niru | how to do that |
| 05:12.37 | dr_watson | Vasistha, ok, that would be fine. However, I can't configure my net as it is, just booting from the cd. Do you think it'd be any different if I installed the base system? |
| 05:12.37 | Vasistha | niru: >>filename-to-append |
| 05:13.27 | niru | Vasistha, ok |
| 05:13.36 | Vasistha | dr_watson: absolutely. I wouldn't dream of trying to get wireless working on my lappy on a cd boot, but it's no problem once I've got the base system |
| 05:14.07 | niru | Vasistha, and how to append that line exactly after another line which is already present |
| 05:14.07 | dr_watson | Vasistha, that sounds good. I'll go and try that. thanks for your time |
| 05:14.35 | Vasistha | dr_watson: well, okay, it was a little problem, but I eventually got it. I'd definitely want to have another computer handy where I could access the net and get support chat as well as download stuff and transfer with a pen drive if needed |
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| 05:15.16 | Vasistha | dr_watson: but ... getting that base system installed opens all sorts of doors for making things work that are just not possible with a cd boot. Anyway, good luck! We'll see you later :) |
| 05:15.32 | Vasistha | niru: in the middle of the file or the end? |
| 05:15.50 | jdahm | markybob: does that upgrade the whole system to testing or just that package? |
| 05:15.52 | niru | Vasistha, there is a line Hewlett-packard*) |
| 05:15.59 | dr_watson | Vasistha, yeah, well, what I do have is a working linux installation (the one I'm currently on) on the same computer. So in worst case, it's rebooting into that one again. |
| 05:16.08 | niru | Vasistha, and I want to add *tc4200*) |
| 05:16.09 | dr_watson | Vasistha, cheers! |
| 05:16.13 | markybob | jdahm, it builds that package for you to be able to install in your system without having to upgrade anything else |
| 05:16.14 | Vasistha | dr_watson: yeah, that can be time consuming |
| 05:16.17 | niru | and two more lines below that |
| 05:16.49 | Vasistha | niru: alright, uhm, let me just ask ... what are you trying to do? Like, what is the larger task at hand? Why do you want to add this line after that line? :) |
| 05:17.18 | niru | Vasistha, its for enabling some functionalities in Hp tc 4200 laptops |
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| 05:18.28 | Vasistha | niru: are you trying to enable this functionality in your own hp laptop, or are you trying to write some sort of script that other people can use, or, ...? |
| 05:19.19 | niru | Vasistha, yes so that other people can use |
| 05:19.43 | Vasistha | niru: is there some reason you don't just hand-edit this script instead of trying to inject stuff into it? |
| 05:20.14 | niru | Vasistha, yes its a learning time too |
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| 05:21.06 | niru | Vasistha, may i know what for so many questions.Is the way i asked the question wrong :) |
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| 05:21.32 | niru | Vasistha, or was that a foolish question |
| 05:21.42 | niekie | Hi, just wondering if Debian etch is affected by the samba vulnerability that hit Slashdot. |
| 05:21.46 | Vasistha | niru: it's just that it looks as if you are trying to edit a file, and your approach is rather awkward and raises alarm-bells :) |
| 05:22.14 | markybob | niekie, dont trust people about exploits. see for yourself. http://www.debian.org/security/ |
| 05:22.36 | niru | Vasistha, ok |
| 05:22.58 | niru | Vasistha, so what is the soltuion for my query |
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| 05:23.29 | Vasistha | niru: sed can do what you want, but it's rather awkward. You could also just append the stuff to the end with >> and then open a text editor and move it into the proper place ;) |
| 05:24.00 | niru | Vasistha, can you tell me with sed how to do that |
| 05:24.09 | niru | the second way is too manual |
| 05:24.16 | PiousMinion | Hello, I'm forced to use kernel 2.6.22-3-686 in lenny because of a bug in 2.6.24. Anyway, I'm trying to get kqemu working. There is no precompiled module for that version and linux-headers-2.6.22-3-686 requires linux-kbuild-2.6.22 which doesn't exist. What are my options? |
| 05:24.28 | niru | Vasistha, I used sed but did not get the output |
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| 05:24.49 | markybob | !snapshot |
| 05:24.49 | dpkg | [snapshots] an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. |
| 05:24.59 | markybob | PiousMinion, --^ |
| 05:25.05 | Vasistha | niru: how much experience do you have with sed? :P it is not very intuitive |
| 05:25.18 | niru | Vasistha, not much |
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| 05:25.36 | PiousMinion | markybob: I'll check it out, thanks |
| 05:25.55 | Vasistha | niru: what's the reason you need to do so much automated stuff? If you can give me an idea of the bigger picture of what's going on, I can probably give you a more appropriate recommendation of how to proceed. |
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| 05:28.12 | smultron | how do i feed a command a text file so it shows up as stdin to the command? |
| 05:28.20 | PiousMinion | markybob: no luck with snapshot. 2.6.22 has been updated since then and no linux-kbuild was created. :/ |
| 05:28.25 | Blast_Hardcheese | cat file | command |
| 05:28.25 | markybob | smultron, cat foo |command |
| 05:28.35 | fengor | argh markybob |
| 05:28.37 | fengor | dont do that |
| 05:28.40 | Vasistha | smultron: command <textfile |
| 05:28.51 | smultron | Vasistha: thanks, i'll try that |
| 05:29.34 | Vasistha | smultron: that "cat" thing could also work, but it is a "UUOC" (useless use of cat) |
| 05:30.02 | smultron | heh |
| 05:30.09 | smultron | sounds like something i would do too ;) |
| 05:30.11 | Blast_Hardcheese | cat doesn't sit on my lap or purr loudly |
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| 05:30.25 | Vasistha | is that a complaint? :) |
| 05:30.25 | Blast_Hardcheese | therefore it's a perfectly reasonable use of cat |
| 05:30.29 | Blast_Hardcheese | yes |
| 05:31.50 | Vasistha | I could actually argue that it's a perfectly reasonable use of cat -- as a stepping stone towards understanding bash while the syntax is still foreign |
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| 05:32.27 | smultron | hm... still can't get it to work. i don't suppose anyone's familiar with using ctl_mboxlist to import a database from a text file (cyrus)? :) |
| 05:32.36 | fengor | Blast_Hardcheese: http://partmaps.org/era/unix/award.html#uucaletter |
| 05:33.53 | jdahm | markybob: hmm well it installed something into /lib/firmware but I don't know how to modprobe that |
| 05:34.21 | markybob | jdahm, the driver (what you modprobe) is different than the firmware (which is in /lib/firmware) |
| 05:34.31 | markybob | jdahm, modprobe b43 should load the driver which uses the firmware :) |
| 05:34.54 | jdahm | markybob: so that still needs to be built into hte kernel? |
| 05:35.14 | markybob | jdahm, yes, the firmware is just one part |
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| 05:36.08 | jdahm | markybob: when I downloaded source code for 2.6.25.4 and looked under that section is said DEPRECATED by the b43 Broadcom stuff |
| 05:36.19 | jdahm | should I still include it in? |
| 05:36.24 | markybob | jdahm, b43xx is deprecated, b43 is the new one |
| 05:36.46 | markybob | jdahm, you need to build b43, not b43xx :) attention to details on that one |
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| 05:37.21 | jdahm | markybob: there's only an option for b43xx in the kernel config, but I guess I can edit the .config file :P |
| 05:37.22 | markybob | it might be called bcm43xx instead of b43xx. cant remember. but b43 is *definitely* what you want |
| 05:37.30 | jdahm | ok |
| 05:37.57 | markybob | jdahm, CONFIG_B43 is what you want |
| 05:38.18 | markybob | jdahm, the other one in the config file is called CONFIG_B43LEGACY |
| 05:39.21 | markybob | jdahm, also, for that to build, you *need* mac80211 support enabled |
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| 05:39.35 | markybob | that might be why you didnt see b43, if mac80211 wasnt enabled |
| 05:39.36 | DanDare | Hello all. Im trying to configure some wireless NIC on Etch but dont know where´s 'iwconfig' command. Wich package i must install ? It cames with etch ? |
| 05:39.47 | markybob | DanDare, wireless-tools |
| 05:39.58 | DanDare | markybob, thank you |
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| 05:46.26 | Vasistha | hum. is there no jigdo for netinst cds? |
| 05:46.50 | DanDare | I have some (I think its a driver) located at /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-686/extra/rt73.ko, but when i do 'insmod rt73.ko' system returns "insmod: can´t read 'rt73.ko' : No such file or directory". There´s a possibly that a failure occured when i compiled the driver ? |
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| 05:48.32 | Vasistha | you may need to either specify the full path, or have that .ko file sitting in a specific directory |
| 05:49.03 | markybob | DanDare, depmod -a && modprobe rt73 |
| 05:50.36 | DanDare | markybob, what this above do? It just returned nothing (aparently) |
| 05:51.16 | Vasistha | hehe |
| 05:51.20 | Vasistha | lsmod | grep rt73 |
| 05:51.41 | DanDare | lsmod | grep rt73 |
| 05:51.45 | DanDare | oh sorry |
| 05:51.49 | Vasistha | hehe |
| 05:52.15 | DanDare | it returned some values that i cant understand :p |
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| 05:54.10 | DanDare | if i go directly to the 'r73.ko' directory and do 'insmod rt73.ko' it returns "insmod: error inserting 'rt73.ko': -1 File exists. This means that it´s already loaded or something that´s just up ? |
| 05:54.22 | DanDare | sorry for maybe dumb questions |
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| 05:54.53 | Vasistha | DanDare: lsmod lists the modules that are presently installed in the kernel. "grep" looks for something. So if lsmod | grep rt73 returned something, then chances are the module is installed in the kernel and working ;) |
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| 05:55.41 | DanDare | Vasistha, ok thanks |
| 05:56.15 | Vasistha | DanDare: so what's your next step? or do you know? :) |
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| 05:56.43 | DanDare | Vasistha, i think yeah. I will run some script right now bringing the NIC up |
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| 05:57.02 | markybob | DanDare, telling us there's an output you didnt understand and not tell us what that output is...well, we're not psychics |
| 05:57.16 | DanDare | sorry |
| 05:57.56 | markybob | i'm not, anyway. someone in here might be :P |
| 05:58.11 | Vasistha | DanDare: you can also try ifconfig -a # to see if the interface has appeared |
| 05:58.19 | vlt | Hello. What package do I need to install to enable the PHP function imageantialias() on Debian Etch? |
| 05:58.25 | Vasistha | is a physicist! :D |
| 05:58.28 | PiousMinion | Is there no "force" or "ignore deps" option for apt-get? |
| 05:59.04 | Vasistha | but not a good enough psychic to guess the output of lsmod | grep rt73 |
| 05:59.15 | DanDare | markybob that returned "rt73207756 0" and "usbcore 112644 3 rt73,uhci_hcd" |
| 05:59.24 | markybob | ok, then you're good |
| 05:59.29 | DanDare | :) |
| 05:59.31 | markybob | iwconfig/ifconfig and set it up |
| 05:59.33 | Vasistha | PiousMinion: man apt-get will show you some thing that may be unwise. What are you trying to do? |
| 05:59.33 | PiousMinion | ignore me, I'm an idiot |
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| 05:59.46 | PiousMinion | Vasistha: thanks, was having a blonde moment |
| 06:00.24 | Vasistha | let's hope it doesn't continue, because you haven't actually DONE anything stupid yet :D |
| 06:00.25 | DanDare | Vasistha, i can identify the wireless with ifconfig -a... but cant identify what is sit0 one o.O |
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| 06:00.54 | Vasistha | DanDare: well, I have a wifi0, but I use it by bringing ath0 up |
| 06:00.55 | PiousMinion | hehe |
| 06:01.02 | DanDare | i know what´s eth0 eth1 lo rausb0 but not this sit0 |
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| 06:01.14 | DanDare | here its rausb0 |
| 06:01.55 | Vasistha | DanDare: okay, nice, so you can probably bring it up now! |
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| 06:02.58 | DanDare | Vasistha, fact is... i managed to put it working but weird... after a while i cant ping the NIC anymore from another computer |
| 06:03.24 | DanDare | so i started checking where i find to check :( |
| 06:04.06 | Vasistha | DanDare: well, that's sucky. unfortunately, some of these wireless cards have closed chipsets and the drivers just aren't that good. I used to use one that had some nasty problems. |
| 06:04.36 | Vasistha | I'm very happy to have an atheros-based card now! |
| 06:05.02 | DanDare | Vasistha, cool. The driver im using i got from chip manufacturer |
| 06:05.16 | DanDare | ralink |
| 06:05.30 | DanDare | wait |
| 06:06.51 | DanDare | www.ralinktech.com/ralink/home/support/linux.html |
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| 06:07.40 | markybob | DanDare, dont. you should be using the driver from these guys http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ |
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| 06:08.03 | markybob | the ralink one isnt supported. rt2x00 is still actively developed |
| 06:08.08 | loner269 | hi all |
| 06:08.08 | DanDare | markybob, nice tought.... I will try that |
| 06:08.27 | DanDare | ahhh so if ralink is not supportes good deal :( |
| 06:08.34 | DanDare | *supported |
| 06:08.53 | loner269 | anyone use elive? |
| 06:09.19 | DanDare | here rt2571 |
| 06:10.11 | DanDare | ok, i have some leds blinking again will switch to the damn wireless to see what happens.. again |
| 06:10.13 | DanDare | thanks |
| 06:10.14 | loner269 | ok then ill be quiet lol hi all |
| 06:10.21 | PiousMinion | I've tried every relevant option in man apt-get, but apt-get absolutely refuses to install a package with missing dependencies. Ideas? |
| 06:11.06 | markybob | PiousMinion, it never will. you can do it with dpkg --force-all or use equivs |
| 06:11.41 | PiousMinion | markybob: if it never will then why are there commanline options for it? lol |
| 06:12.01 | markybob | which are obviously doing exactly what you want |
| 06:12.07 | loner269 | so you ask lol i thought it was funny |
| 06:12.28 | loner269 | can you tell im bored? |
| 06:12.30 | DawnLight | is it possible to configure hal to use ntfs-3g? |
| 06:12.41 | Lagbolt | dawnlight yes |
| 06:12.50 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: any docs on this? |
| 06:12.51 | Lagbolt | in um let me find it |
| 06:13.09 | Lagbolt | you put a file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy |
| 06:13.20 | Lagbolt | hmm i can pastebin mine for y |
| 06:13.22 | markybob | gentoo's wiki is good for this. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NTFS_write_with_ntfs-3g |
| 06:13.29 | Lagbolt | yeah thats the website :) |
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| 06:13.39 | Lagbolt | thanks markybob |
| 06:14.02 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: i'd like that. is it etch? |
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| 06:14.22 | loner269 | iceweasle hates me on here |
| 06:14.59 | loner269 | i see almost all words but in mechquest when i fight someone the weponds words aint there i cant figure out why |
| 06:15.13 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, http://pastebin.com/m9475317 |
| 06:15.38 | fengor | loner269: i suspect rather your flash plugin than iceweasel |
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| 06:15.44 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: is it for etch? |
| 06:15.53 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, it will work for etch |
| 06:16.28 | loner269 | i dont know this stuff well enough i went to get flash but it had rpm tar an yummy i dont know how to do any of those |
| 06:16.43 | loner269 | if synapt dont got it i try not to mess with it |
| 06:17.02 | loner269 | an i got what synapt has for it |
| 06:17.45 | loner269 | fengor, im runnin elive |
| 06:17.53 | loner269 | if it matters any |
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| 06:18.07 | fengor | !tell loner269 about not debian |
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| 06:18.45 | loner269 | nice fengor |
| 06:18.59 | loner269 | but i had same problem with knoppix too |
| 06:19.08 | fengor | knoppixisnt debian as well |
| 06:19.15 | fengor | you might try #elive though |
| 06:19.39 | loner269 | well excuse me for tryn to follow directions |
| 06:19.54 | loner269 | it says its debian based |
| 06:20.08 | loner269 | sorry ill go wow sometimes i hate linux |
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| 06:20.14 | markybob | !debian based |
| 06:20.14 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
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| 06:20.26 | markybob | too bad. just missed him |
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| 06:22.03 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: it still mounts with ntfs and not 3g. i've done /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal restart . do i need anything else? i'm using kde, are you too? |
| 06:23.47 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, didnt work eh? |
| 06:23.54 | Lagbolt | did you restart dbus? |
| 06:24.00 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: nope |
| 06:24.08 | Lagbolt | i cant remember, i think i restarted dbus |
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| 06:25.21 | abusado | markybob |
| 06:25.28 | abusado | are you there? |
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| 06:25.55 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: still just ntfs |
| 06:26.03 | DawnLight | does it make sense? |
| 06:26.27 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, is this for usb device? |
| 06:26.33 | Lagbolt | or not? |
| 06:26.46 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: usb |
| 06:27.21 | Lagbolt | and the file you made? you put it where, what is the file called |
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| 06:29.16 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ntfs-3g-jake.fdi |
| 06:29.58 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, can you use ntfs-3g mount from command line? |
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| 06:30.03 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: yes |
| 06:31.01 | markybob | abusado, yeah? |
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| 06:31.08 | Lagbolt | can you pastebin the fdi file. . . just want to double check |
| 06:31.23 | haxality | hello, I was wondering how to set up multi-head support |
| 06:31.30 | haxality | I'm using XFCE in Etch |
| 06:31.56 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: i'm double checking myself. it is without the first two lines of your paste |
| 06:32.27 | Lagbolt | so you have 9 lines? |
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| 06:32.27 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: shit, i don't have ntfs-3g installed |
| 06:32.32 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, :) |
| 06:32.37 | Lagbolt | that is a problem |
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| 06:33.44 | cmanns | Can anyone guide me on how to use iptables rate limiting? I'm being ddos'd really really bad I suppose |
| 06:33.54 | cmanns | netstat -s says this http://rafb.net/p/Ei8PFd50.html |
| 06:33.55 | cmanns | bad? |
| 06:34.37 | hifi | rate limiting at your end probably does no good |
| 06:34.38 | xsdg | cmanns: err... you might want to talk to your ISP |
| 06:34.44 | xsdg | s#might#probably# |
| 06:34.59 | cmanns | My isp wont do nothin |
| 06:35.13 | cmanns | I gues I'll go the next route, directing the botnet to their owner XD |
| 06:35.58 | hifi | even if you block all traffic from iptables the packets still bounce at your end and will eventually block all your traffic |
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| 06:36.02 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: i can mount via command line using ntfs-3g and i've restarted dbus and kded but still it uses ntfs |
| 06:36.07 | cmanns | ah |
| 06:36.19 | xsdg | hifi: not really |
| 06:36.29 | xsdg | hifi: iptables can drop packets on the floor |
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| 06:36.46 | hifi | but they still go trough your bandwidth |
| 06:36.48 | Lagbolt | dunno, that is all i did on all my machines. . . . are there logs? |
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| 06:37.14 | xsdg | hifi: yeah, I was going to say something, but I realized most people don't have SDSL |
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| 06:37.49 | hifi | I always use "block in drop all" style configuration but of course it can't handle a ddos |
| 06:38.11 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: no logs, afaics |
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| 06:38.35 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: what version of hal? |
| 06:38.55 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, maybe hal in etch doesnt support it . . i use 0.5.11~rc2-1 |
| 06:39.40 | DawnLight | Lagbolt: thanks. i'll check #hal or the hal mailing list |
| 06:39.52 | Lagbolt | there are other ways . . . i think you can make a symlink to do it |
| 06:40.03 | cmanns | They arnt using much bandwidth |
| 06:40.07 | cmanns | Only 2mbyte/s or so |
| 06:40.16 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, ln -s /usr/bin/ntfs-3g /sbin/mount.ntfs :) |
| 06:40.26 | hifi | cmanns: then you are on the green zone |
| 06:40.28 | Lagbolt | DawnLight, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NTFS_write_with_ntfs-3g |
| 06:40.36 | cmanns | They're clogging up my server though..... |
| 06:40.41 | cmanns | 14million tcp connections :S |
| 06:41.01 | hifi | cmanns: when you get ~200Mbit/s worth of packets trough your dsl line you are screwed |
| 06:41.13 | xsdg | cmanns: try turning on TCP syncookies |
| 06:41.30 | cmanns | xsdg, Whats that? |
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| 06:42.02 | xsdg | http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap5sec56.html |
| 06:42.04 | cmanns | hifi, it's multihomed bandwidth 2 100mbit lines to my colo'ers switch and I play with that bandwidth hehe |
| 06:42.22 | hifi | :) |
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| 06:43.46 | cmanns | They're just doing so many connections my clients websites wont load, I got 2 botnets attacking one of the sites I host |
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| 06:47.48 | cmanns | xsdg, How'd I apply the setting? |
| 06:47.52 | cmanns | restart network interfaces? |
| 06:48.38 | xsdg | cmanns: no, the echo command does it |
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| 06:48.49 | xsdg | cmanns: do you know what sort of packets the machine is getting? |
| 06:49.27 | cmanns | xsdg, It's http flood for a php website... both botnets are requesting the website so I'm not sure what sort of packet it'd be |
| 06:49.56 | felosis | just a tcp packet requesting a webpage :) classic |
| 06:50.01 | Jemt | Greetz. I have just found out that there is a tool available called gnome-randr-applet, which enables me to switch resolution - Great! But does it make any modifications to my system or is the setting I choose temporary? I switch monitor a lot and I would like to be able to start my system on an old monitor, if I have previously used my computer on a very new monitor with a very high resolution that the old one can't use |
| 06:50.37 | xsdg | cmanns: ok; well if they're actually setting up the TCP connection, there's not much you can do easily, I don't think |
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| 06:50.46 | hifi | http://rafb.net/p/XsypDy24.html any hints why the acpi battery isn't detected? |
| 06:51.01 | xsdg | cmanns: can you put part of `netstat -nltap` on a paste site somewhere? |
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| 06:51.45 | BubbaT | basic script question. I have a file and I want to print it out one word per line. |
| 06:52.09 | cmanns | Yes xsdg |
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| 06:53.14 | cmanns | xsdg, doesnt show any of the attackrs ips just mine and localhost |
| 06:54.21 | xsdg | cmanns: does it have connections? |
| 06:54.34 | cmanns | yeah established and time_wait |
| 06:54.38 | abusado | who knows ddos deflate here? |
| 06:54.38 | cmanns | mostly eastablished |
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| 06:55.17 | xsdg | cmanns: yeah, established means that they're actually setting up the connections, which means that TCP SYN cookies won't help |
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| 06:55.26 | cmanns | ah i see |
| 06:55.36 | DawnLight | how do i make a new page in the debian wiki? |
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| 06:56.04 | cmanns | #lighttpd guys said make a script to ban ip's that hit a the site many tiems every 10 sec |
| 06:56.12 | cmanns | but i dunno how to code or even do that :( |
| 06:56.32 | Blast_Hardcheese | That's a bad idea |
| 06:56.42 | felosis | yea that can get ugly |
| 06:56.47 | cmanns | Why? |
| 06:56.58 | Blast_Hardcheese | you could end up banning legit users |
| 06:57.08 | felosis | the only thing you can do is wait it out, or tell the guy who pissed off the scriptkiddy to knock it off lol |
| 06:57.11 | simonrvn | very easily in fact |
| 06:57.22 | cmanns | Blast_Hardcheese, how would I be banning legit users? |
| 06:57.32 | cmanns | The sites GONE, if I put it up all my php servers would be using 400% cpu |
| 06:57.49 | cmanns | It's just a bank html to save bandwidth, the 404 lighttpd sends was using over 6mbyte/s |
| 06:57.51 | simonrvn | or null route the fucker... yeh still pounding the network, but at least they're not pounding the box. |
| 06:58.11 | cmanns | simonrvn, I was gonna null route the ip but it's my primary ip the sites on |
| 06:58.13 | Blast_Hardcheese | cmanns: Oh, I apologize, I didn't see the beginning of your problem |
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| 06:58.20 | cmanns | It's fine Blast_Hardcheese |
| 06:58.25 | xsdg | simonrvn: can't null route with a DDOS |
| 06:58.36 | cmanns | Anyone hammering one page more than 10 times per second would be worthy of a drop |
| 06:58.39 | simonrvn | oh, ddos. icky. |
| 06:58.43 | cmanns | Ok guys, I got the attackers ip's |
| 06:58.47 | cmanns | RIPE Net |
| 06:58.55 | cmanns | Amsterdam |
| 06:59.02 | felosis | lol |
| 06:59.06 | cmanns | They ddos'd my box's before, I contacted RIPE and they said they wouldn't do anything :S |
| 06:59.15 | felosis | yea thats the IP holder not where the attack is coming from |
| 06:59.18 | simonrvn | ripe wouldn't... |
| 06:59.31 | cmanns | Well yeah they are the ip holder |
| 06:59.40 | cmanns | How could I find which dc their in? |
| 06:59.45 | simonrvn | that's the org that hands out the blocks, not the provider |
| 06:59.48 | cmanns | http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=86.136.182.1 |
| 06:59.48 | felosis | msg me a ip cmanns |
| 06:59.54 | simonrvn | you want the latter. |
| 06:59.56 | cmanns | felosis, right there :-) |
| 07:00.00 | felosis | or that works |
| 07:00.18 | cmanns | Shes hitting my box's with her own box's and zombies :S this must be a careless datacenter shes in? |
| 07:00.26 | felosis | BT INternet Please send abuse reports to abuse@btbroadband.com |
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| 07:00.35 | simonrvn | oh, bt? fuck. |
| 07:00.43 | cmanns | What about bt? |
| 07:00.47 | simonrvn | good luck |
| 07:00.50 | cmanns | isnt that a cable provider? |
| 07:00.56 | felosis | thats the isp holding the ip attacking you |
| 07:00.57 | cmanns | Shes got tons of ip's on this netblock |
| 07:00.57 | Vasistha | how do I use an MD5SUMS.sign file to verify authenticity, and what am I verifying? |
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| 07:01.15 | cmanns | felosis, theres multiple ips in this netbock shes using... She has dedicated servers |
| 07:01.15 | felosis | bt owns 86.136.0.0 - 86.141.255.255 |
| 07:01.20 | BubbaT | cmanns where do you live? |
| 07:01.21 | simonrvn | Vasistha: run md5sum on the file in question |
| 07:01.25 | cmanns | BubbaT, usa |
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| 07:02.03 | Vasistha | simonrvn: that much reported OK. I'm just wondering what to do with this GPG signature file |
| 07:02.03 | BubbaT | if your attacker is using hacked computers to attack you, I would call the FBI. |
| 07:02.06 | opoftheuniverse | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:02.07 | felosis | cmanns: the attacker more then likely has zombie pcs on that ip range, i doubt the attacks are originating from a isp that would be kind of stupid :) |
| 07:02.18 | xsdg | BubbaT: err... FBI won't do anything |
| 07:02.26 | xsdg | BubbaT: not unless there's a lot of money involved |
| 07:02.29 | felosis | BubbaT: the fbi will not do anything unless damages exceed over 100,000$USD |
| 07:02.31 | cmanns | felosis, the first ip is the one shes used on my site since june of last year.... |
| 07:02.36 | simonrvn | Vasistha: check it |
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| 07:02.56 | cmanns | she signed up on another account to spam the site with and its a different ip, and theres a few 86 ips |
| 07:02.56 | BubbaT | xsdg, not about ddos but about hacking the computers. |
| 07:03.19 | Vasistha | simonrvn: against what? :P |
| 07:03.45 | simonrvn | check to see if it's a valid sig |
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| 07:04.19 | xsdg | BubbaT: as we said |
| 07:04.29 | felosis | cmanns: it happens onlything you can do is complain to any isps hitting the websites and hope and pray to god they notify the customer or cut them off due to a compromised machine |
| 07:04.54 | xsdg | BubbaT: this is peanuts for the FBI; they won't get involved unless there is a lot of money involved (~$100,000 of damages) |
| 07:04.59 | simonrvn | BubbaT: they won't fucking care |
| 07:05.41 | yang | Is phpbb3 a recommended forum platform? |
| 07:05.47 | cmanns | I think their botnets are using my DNS!! |
| 07:05.50 | cmanns | SWEET |
| 07:05.57 | felosis | yea the case per personal civilian machine is about $50 to $100 to clean then properly protect, so its nothing and the user is more then likely not an adult so theyll slap their hands and let them on their way |
| 07:06.04 | cmanns | I changed my a record to a guys ip address and the attack is slowly leaving my server |
| 07:06.17 | felosis | yang: phpbb3 is wonderful as a forum platform once setup how you want it :) |
| 07:06.18 | cmanns | Is it illegal for me to use fbi.gov's ip ROFL i"m sure they would do something about it then haha |
| 07:06.45 | felosis | cmanns: ive done it several times :) |
| 07:07.04 | cmanns | woah |
| 07:07.10 | cmanns | It's almost completely done |
| 07:07.19 | cmanns | but the guy who I put the ip as a record is still on msn :S |
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| 07:07.32 | opoftheuniverse | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.34 | cmanns | oh but he doesnt run httpd |
| 07:08.04 | felosis | opoftheuniverse: you shouldnt have to :) |
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| 07:08.24 | opoftheuniverse | felosis: i install all from source |
| 07:08.32 | opoftheuniverse | felosis: so its needed right? |
| 07:08.40 | simonrvn | opoftheuniverse: why? |
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| 07:08.56 | opoftheuniverse | simonrvn: the client requires that |
| 07:08.57 | simonrvn | as in, wth did you install that from source? |
| 07:09.23 | simonrvn | mutters something about useless |
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| 07:09.31 | geronimo89 | hello. is there a command to check how much your battery is charged? |
| 07:11.02 | Jemt | Is it possible to have update-notifier ignore kernel-updates? I want to install the kernel manually using a program i've written so it dosn't mess up my Grub configuration |
| 07:11.31 | xsdg | geronimo89: I use `acpitool` (which is in its own package) |
| 07:11.46 | geronimo89 | you could backup your grupconfig and replace it after installing the new kernel jemt |
| 07:11.55 | geronimo89 | xsdg: I'll try, thank you |
| 07:12.07 | Vasistha | geronimo89: if you want to be really hardcore you can run cat on the entries in /proc/acpi/battery..... |
| 07:12.11 | simonrvn | wonders if geronimo89 is apache... |
| 07:12.34 | markybob | i am the great apache warrior |
| 07:12.36 | Vasistha | geronimo89: I personally prefer a nice little gui icon that shows a visual bar |
| 07:12.36 | Jemt | geronimo89: Unfortunately not - I want to to ensure that my _users_ do not install new kernels actually |
| 07:12.42 | markybob | i will lead these great people into freedom |
| 07:12.59 | geronimo89 | Jemt: I see |
| 07:13.08 | felosis | Jemt: dont give your users admin privledges |
| 07:13.09 | markybob | then hold/pin |
| 07:13.17 | markybob | or change root |
| 07:13.22 | Jemt | felosis: They should be able to update their own system :p |
| 07:13.39 | Jemt | .. just not the kernelr |
| 07:13.42 | Jemt | kernel |
| 07:13.43 | felosis | lol |
| 07:13.44 | geronimo89 | Vasistha: I prefer some little guis too, like conky, but I can't get my config from my server right now, so I just wanted some quick method to see it in a shell |
| 07:14.06 | felosis | i remember theres a way to exclude kernel updates in with apt i just dont remember how |
| 07:14.08 | cmanns | Sweet guys! |
| 07:14.14 | cmanns | The dns change migrated the attack |
| 07:14.15 | Vasistha | geronimo89: if you just want to look once, right now ... I'd cd into /proc/acpi and poke around for something to cat :) |
| 07:14.21 | felosis | cmanns: haha thats awesome |
| 07:14.25 | Jemt | felipe: Uh, nifty. Google might have the answer. Thanks |
| 07:14.32 | cmanns | yeah dude a 2k botnet read for my usage rofl |
| 07:14.40 | cmanns | Now I gotta think carefully where to point it |
| 07:14.46 | simonrvn | cmanns: nifty |
| 07:14.48 | Vasistha | geronimo89: you can probably do it as the nonpriveledged user, so there isn't any chance of accidentally doing any harm |
| 07:14.48 | cmanns | Someoine I dont like or the botnet owner? |
| 07:14.53 | geronimo89 | Vasistha: I've done that, found the state file, that shows the remaining capacity |
| 07:15.02 | simonrvn | cmanns: yes, themselves |
| 07:15.09 | cmanns | Kay, now I gotta think |
| 07:15.14 | cmanns | They're connecting via 2 bt ips |
| 07:15.19 | cmanns | They prolly got 2 modems |
| 07:15.27 | cmanns | Gotta choose wisely on which to hit |
| 07:15.32 | felosis | cmanns: pointing ddos attacks to sources such as DOD is always a classic |
| 07:15.41 | cmanns | DOD? |
| 07:15.48 | simonrvn | dept. of defense |
| 07:15.53 | felosis | ^yea |
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| 07:16.04 | cmanns | but I doubt they'd do shit |
| 07:16.05 | geronimo89 | acpitool is perfect Vasistha |
| 07:16.05 | pythonic | department of destruction |
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| 07:16.13 | simonrvn | indeed |
| 07:16.14 | Vasistha | geronimo89: hum, I'm happy to report that my battery has been gradually getting fuller and fuller charges -- when I first got it, it was charging to 32 Wh, now it's up to 45 Wh |
| 07:16.16 | cmanns | department of boobs |
| 07:16.23 | pythonic | department of death |
| 07:16.31 | Vasistha | still not up to the design capacity of 71 Wh :( |
| 07:16.44 | felosis | cmanns: ive seen some attacks stop fairly quickly *halo* |
| 07:17.00 | cmanns | Whats DOD's ip? |
| 07:17.04 | geronimo89 | Vasistha: my capacity is like half of the design capacity by now :/ |
| 07:17.06 | pythonic | 127.0.0.1 |
| 07:17.15 | simonrvn | !slap pythonic |
| 07:17.15 | geronimo89 | Vasistha: 3 years of excessive use :> |
| 07:17.15 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across pythonic's face |
| 07:17.27 | felosis | 155.7.40.239 |
| 07:17.28 | cmanns | pythonic, that wouldnt be innfecient |
| 07:17.38 | cmanns | See if I redirect it, they'll notice and just use my server ip |
| 07:17.49 | cmanns | Then I'll be back in boat 1 but iwont beable to redirect it |
| 07:17.55 | Vasistha | geronimo89: sorry to hear that :P well, batteries are ... batteries. They're just not that great. But they sure are great. |
| 07:18.07 | felosis | cmanns: true |
| 07:18.08 | Vasistha | heh. I think I should go to bed soon. |
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| 07:18.33 | geronimo89 | Vasistha: Yeah, you're right. I'm not bragging, I know how it came to this loss of capacity :> |
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| 07:19.40 | Vasistha | I still marvel at how my 10-year-old compaq battery still gives me a full 2 hours ... I used it mostly as a desktop system, but still ... I *sometimes* discharged the thing, and it's been 10 years! |
| 07:19.58 | felosis | Vasistha: thats pretty impressive |
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| 07:20.21 | heavensrevenge | hello? |
| 07:20.22 | Vasistha | of course it doesn't actually "still" give me much, because I don't actually "use" it anymore :) |
| 07:20.28 | felosis | hehe |
| 07:20.33 | markybob | pretty impressive...that's pretty bullshit |
| 07:20.36 | Vasistha | but I did 6 months ago! |
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| 07:21.51 | heavensrevenge | im getting a "dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `deejayd' in statoverride file /n E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)" what is a statoverride file?? and can anybody help me let dpkg proceed past that error message? |
| 07:22.15 | BubbaT | I have a list of packages i want to download. Can I get apt-get to download them even if theya re already installed. |
| 07:22.38 | Vasistha | BubbaT: I think there's a download-only option, check man apt-get |
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| 07:22.49 | markybob | BubbaT, for x in `cat listfile`; do apt-get install $x; done |
| 07:23.07 | simonrvn | means it can't find that user; your dpkg-statoverride is screwed up, you need to re-add that user to the system, or fix your nss. |
| 07:23.44 | cmanns | I just forwarded the attack to one of the sites owned by one of the botnet owners. |
| 07:23.46 | BubbaT | Vasistha, of course there is -d ( doh!) but it won't do anything if they are already installed. |
| 07:23.58 | simonrvn | cmanns: cool |
| 07:24.01 | cmanns | Also contacting efnet where 1 botnet is hosted :-) Gotta take these kids downnnn |
| 07:24.26 | simonrvn | way to go :) |
| 07:24.55 | cmanns | all netop's are idle but hopefully I get it resolved soon |
| 07:25.10 | heavensrevenge | lol |
| 07:25.13 | Vasistha | BubbaT: heh, you could try --reinstall |
| 07:25.20 | BubbaT | cmanns, I would try to write a script that takes one of the bots and redirects it to the last bot attacking. |
| 07:25.27 | g00se | Anybody managed to connect to BTOpenzone wireless in UK by any chance? |
| 07:25.37 | felosis | BubbaT: rofl that would be funny |
| 07:25.39 | cmanns | BubbaT, I'm changing my sites dns to ip's I want their bot to attack |
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| 07:25.48 | cmanns | I'd need to do ip soofing to do that |
| 07:27.56 | heavensrevenge | im just looking up statoverride file's dorectly |
| 07:28.24 | heavensrevenge | ill come back and ask for somehow help if im still lost, thanks tho :) |
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| 07:32.53 | felosis | man i better get my check for a project i did or imma go apeshit |
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| 07:34.50 | geronimo89 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:34.57 | geronimo89 | whoops, accident |
| 07:36.03 | geronimo89 | how do you put your mind into the programmers way of thinking? I have difficulties with that actually and then I mess up some syntax shit and I'm getting frustrated again ^^ |
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| 07:37.47 | FalscherHase | hi all. can i use 'mirror' or 'mirrordir' to synchronize a local directory tree *to* a remote ftp server? what other program could i use? |
| 07:38.22 | fengor | apt-cache search mirror |
| 07:38.35 | geronimo89 | what's wrong with using rsync? wasn't that for syncing? |
| 07:38.51 | fengor | optionally with a | less if apt-cache returns too many entires |
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| 07:40.54 | symbolics | FalscherHase, lftp has a mirror command |
| 07:41.09 | FalscherHase | geronimo89: can rsync use ftp? i thought it would use rsh/ssh or it's own protocol |
| 07:41.36 | fengor | well ftp is the devils spawn anyway FalscherHase ;p |
| 07:41.48 | FalscherHase | fengor: ok, but how do i find out which of these can use ftp |
| 07:41.58 | FalscherHase | fengor: yesyes i know :) |
| 07:42.17 | symbolics | and lftp can mirror up or down |
| 07:42.48 | markybob | i wonder if breaking a leg on stage is really a good thing |
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| 07:42.51 | H2S04 | hello |
| 07:43.01 | fengor | remember that your username and password gets transmitted in the clear FalscherHase |
| 07:43.16 | markybob | feitingen, and? |
| 07:44.00 | FalscherHase | symbolics: thanks, that looks good! |
| 07:44.24 | fengor | FalscherHase: thse with ftp in the name would be a good guess |
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| 07:44.43 | FalscherHase | fengor: i'm aware of that. but i have no influence what service the remote site runs :( |
| 07:44.45 | markybob | no admin whould run anything other than postfix |
| 07:45.20 | Vasistha | markybob: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break_a_leg |
| 07:45.21 | fengor | dont they offer scp or something FalscherHase ? |
| 07:45.33 | BubbaT | geronimo89, you either have the programmer gene or you don't. Sounds like you don't. |
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| 07:50.47 | apol|work | how can I use lsbc++ on debian? lsb-cxx package doesn't install it :S |
| 07:50.57 | Vasistha | geronimo89: one good way to learn to program is to learn with a language that has strong typing and helpful syntactic checking. I don't think I ever could have learned to program if I had started with, say, PHP or bash instead of with pascal as I did |
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| 07:51.55 | Vasistha | geronimo89: I've heard some people say that python is an excellent learning language, and after learning it myself and completing a small project with it, I'm inclined to agree |
| 07:52.33 | felosis | Vasistha: do you have any recommended websites for python? i wanted to take a look at it and my friend wants to learn it |
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| 07:55.48 | Vasistha | felosis: the official python site has a great tutorial |
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| 07:56.25 | Vasistha | felosis: http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html :) |
| 07:56.54 | felosis | Vasistha: thanks |
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| 07:58.30 | Vasistha | np |
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| 07:59.49 | H2S04 | If I have a linux server I'm trying to convert into a router/proxy and I add another card to it and set its address netmask and bcast up properly can I use a straight cat cable even if it's not autosensing or do I need to use crossover to go nic > nic |
| 07:59.50 | H2S04 | ? |
| 08:00.19 | felosis | id say crossover |
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| 08:00.37 | H2S04 | The computers were seeing each other but they're not anymore :X |
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| 08:01.07 | Surfer7 | Visit http://www.FakeMagazineCover.com (upload pic make mag) - http://www.SillyWebcam.com (play with webcam online) - http://www.Is-A-Jerk.com (insulter/anon email) - http://www.ComedySearchEngine.com (fun) - http://www.BodySwitcher.com (put your face on funny body) - http://www.MedChecker.com (health) - http://www.Canuckster.com (Canada eh) - http://www.Nerdful.com (geeks) |
| 08:01.08 | felosis | H2S04: few nics will autosense properly :) its easier and more likely better to use a crossover |
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| 08:01.21 | H2S04 | felosis: I'll just throw it in a switch :P |
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| 08:01.32 | felosis | H2S04: that always works too |
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| 08:01.54 | H2S04 | felosis: I don't want to make a 25 ft cross over cable :P |
| 08:02.06 | felosis | H2S04: oh come on |
| 08:02.35 | H2S04 | With autosensing can one card just have it ie. connecting an older nic to a new one with a straight through cable. |
| 08:02.47 | H2S04 | felosis: I'm low on RJ45's :p |
| 08:02.51 | felosis | H2S04: in theory yes but i wouldnt rely on it |
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| 08:03.05 | H2S04 | felosis: Yeah I think it's causing problems.... |
| 08:03.42 | felosis | wow fedora fracked up this pc im working on bad lol |
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| 08:04.26 | H2S04 | felosis: Fedora 9 == fail |
| 08:04.40 | H2S04 | felosis: A friend of mine said I should try it and I wanted to punch him in the throat. |
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| 08:05.16 | felosis | a client of mine has a son that installed it on his pc and to make the story simple they want xp back on it but i c ant get anything to boot off cd now :) |
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| 08:05.46 | cmanns | How do is ee how many ips connected to my server |
| 08:07.22 | sep | cmanns, netstat |
| 08:07.37 | cmanns | That shows all of them, theres a way to show a # if I recall |
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| 08:09.42 | the-dude | ifconfig -a |
| 08:10.45 | cmanns | no no |
| 08:10.48 | cmanns | Number of ips connected |
| 08:10.54 | cmanns | its netstat -something |
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| 08:11.43 | sep | cmanns, -s for statistics ? and man netstat should show you that |
| 08:12.07 | g00se | cmanns: how about something like netstat -t | wc -l |
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| 08:12.26 | cmanns | thx g00se |
| 08:14.01 | g00se | cmanns: make sure it's precise enough for you beforepiping into wc ;-) |
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| 08:14.34 | felosis | wow i thought id never say this, but vista (the dvd) saved the day rofl |
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| 08:15.52 | the-dude | netstat -tan |
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| 08:18.43 | thid | hello, does anyone know how to block webpage by iptables? I'm trying to block name of a page not IP |
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| 08:20.03 | felosis | i think you really have to deal with ip (hence ip tables) |
| 08:20.23 | felosis | thid: you can try using a service such as opendns which will allow you to block for example *.domain.com |
| 08:20.44 | felosis | thid: as well as other categories for websites (pron, violence, ect) |
| 08:21.52 | the-dude | or try dansguardian |
| 08:22.09 | felosis | that works too |
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| 08:30.26 | thid | hmm....about that iptables, how can I block pool of IP |
| 08:30.28 | thid | ? |
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| 08:32.32 | the-dude | define block? |
| 08:32.36 | Nibbler | hi |
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| 08:32.56 | Nibbler | for recent intel CPUs i'll use an ia64 image? |
| 08:33.10 | fengor | no |
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| 08:33.15 | fengor | amd64 |
| 08:33.16 | simonrvn | amd64 |
| 08:33.16 | Ergo^ | morning |
| 08:33.21 | fengor | ia is for the itanium line |
| 08:33.22 | simonrvn | fengor: hee :) |
| 08:33.38 | Nibbler | i somehow remembered ia64 wasn the right to chose, but AMD sounded sooo wrong... |
| 08:33.42 | Nibbler | so thanks :D |
| 08:33.49 | fengor | no prob ;) |
| 08:34.05 | g00se | thid: Something like iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.100.0/24 -j DROP |
| 08:34.17 | Ergo^ | i was thinking about using debian for a server i was plainning to get... what are the best control panels for this OS ? |
| 08:34.22 | Ergo^ | (hosting control panels) |
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| 08:34.40 | Nibbler | Ergo^, whathosting? |
| 08:34.44 | groton | is there a netinstall cd for lenny version? |
| 08:34.52 | Vasistha | does a "good" hosting control panel even exist? |
| 08:35.01 | Vasistha | groton: yes, there is! |
| 08:35.03 | the_sniff | anyone knows the default password for thwe safe@office? |
| 08:35.13 | Nibbler | http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ @ groton |
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| 08:35.41 | groton | Vasistha, thanks a few |
| 08:35.56 | groton | Nibbler, thanks a lot! which path am i missing to that page? :) |
| 08:36.25 | Ergo^ | Nibbler: something like ispCPOmega, or Cpanel thingie.... |
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| 08:36.30 | Nibbler | i was searching exactly this 1h ago, too. now i tried again and suddenly found it :D |
| 08:36.59 | groton | Nibbler, lol, thanks again :) |
| 08:37.35 | Vasistha | thanks a few :D hehehe |
| 08:38.20 | Ergo^ | Nibbler: im looking dor something that would allow for reselling capabilities |
| 08:38.22 | fengor | !tell Ergo^ about free whcp |
| 08:38.38 | Vasistha | the_sniff: a friend of mine once told me a story about people trying to guess at a safe password, and they ended up calling in a professional, and the guy tried a standard default password and it worked ... don't remember what it was, though :) |
| 08:38.50 | Nibbler | Ergo^, no idea then |
| 08:39.14 | Ergo^ | fengor: thanks, but im lost now.. |
| 08:39.35 | Ergo^ | DTC - by default install its set up in a way one user can read other users files with php |
| 08:39.47 | fengor | dpkg should have told you some free webhostign panels. just check their urls for a feature lsit to see which suits you |
| 08:39.47 | dpkg | fengor: You are moron #31 |
| 08:40.00 | fengor | and if none suits you there is still confixx or ples ig uess (both commercial) |
| 08:40.10 | Ergo^ | ispCP Omega - found horrible security bug they are not willing to fix |
| 08:40.26 | Ergo^ | thought there would be something more that is secure :] |
| 08:40.36 | the_sniff | Vasistha lol |
| 08:40.46 | simonrvn | stays FAR away from "control panels" like that |
| 08:41.07 | fengor | hehe well i dont use them overly. |
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| 08:41.48 | Ergo^ | well seems there is only Plesk for debian that has good reputation |
| 08:42.00 | Ergo^ | i was hoping i can get something free :P |
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| 08:43.31 | alcohol | I have an ssh question. In the past, when I ssh'ed from the main machine to our db as root, I was never asked for a password. Now a days I am. What could have caused this change, and can I revert it? |
| 08:44.02 | Ergo^ | 1,400$ usd for Plesk permanent license :D |
| 08:44.36 | simonrvn | Ergo^: you may need to change some settings - a friend of mine installed it once, and i didn't like the defaults - but i was mildly impressed with it. |
| 08:45.01 | Ergo^ | well, im not sure, right now i have lenny VPS with ispCP Omega on it |
| 08:45.18 | Ergo^ | it would rock, but there are security flaws :( |
| 08:45.24 | Ergo^ | in php code i mean |
| 08:45.31 | felosis | Ergo^: yea the licenses for that stuff is nuts but *shrug* not a plesk fan, new cpanel stuff is kinda border line crappy and over bloated, beware of ispCP unless you like being owned :) |
| 08:45.34 | simonrvn | i wouldn't use it then. |
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| 08:46.11 | felosis | alcohol: if you were using ssh keys to authenticate yourself that would normally do that :) |
| 08:46.21 | Ergo^ | well, i have to use "something" since i suck at machine administration |
| 08:46.34 | alcohol | Does nobody have an answer to my question? It is bugging me quite a bit, especially since a script I use now fails cause it cannot connect without being asked to specify a password. |
| 08:46.58 | felosis | Ergo^: use cpanel it costs money but if youre going to do something might as well use that |
| 08:47.12 | alcohol | Well I'm putty'd to the main machine, and from there I ssh to the database machine. So they key would be on the main machine, not my pc here at work right? |
| 08:47.13 | Ergo^ | but it doesnt support debian |
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| 08:47.22 | simonrvn | you'll keep sucking at it until you get down and dirty. just my opinion. |
| 08:47.48 | thid | cpanel works pretty well on debian etch :P |
| 08:47.50 | feitingen | alcohol: right |
| 08:47.54 | thid | same as directadmin |
| 08:48.00 | alcohol | feitingen: how could I get it to recreate a key? |
| 08:48.03 | felosis | alcohol: no the key would be on your pc because its something setup to work from your local machine if you hold on i can find you a guide but you should talk to whoever set it up for you |
| 08:48.16 | Ergo^ | thid cpanel works on debian ? i could not find a single information on that |
| 08:48.19 | alcohol | Hrm. |
| 08:48.25 | feitingen | alcohol: ssh-keygen or something like that |
| 08:48.25 | Ergo^ | (direct admin looks nice too ) |
| 08:48.26 | alcohol | So why does my script also require the password now? |
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| 08:48.47 | feitingen | alcohol: if your key requires a password, then your script does too |
| 08:48.52 | Dewi | alcohol: ssh clients forward keys as well |
| 08:48.53 | simonrvn | feitingen: yes; has a man page |
| 08:48.55 | felosis | alcohol: i couldnt explain that as i did not setup your workstation the way it used to be |
| 08:49.00 | Dewi | alcohol: so maybe it is on your workstation in putty |
| 08:49.10 | simonrvn | g'night/day/whatever |
| 08:49.11 | Dewi | alcohol: that's where all mine are |
| 08:49.15 | felosis | feitingen: he was using a ssh key to authenticate himself to the box so he didnt have to type/know the root password |
| 08:49.33 | thid | Ergo^ I have using cpanel with my friend, we also tested directadmin |
| 08:49.35 | alcohol | Yea, but the script is executed by cron. |
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| 08:49.50 | felosis | alcohol: maybe the root password was changed :) |
| 08:49.52 | Dewi | alcohol: root cron? |
| 08:49.53 | feitingen | felosis: that sounds horribly insecure |
| 08:49.53 | alcohol | How do I setup a key for cron? |
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| 08:49.59 | alcohol | Nope, password is still the same. |
| 08:50.01 | Dewi | alcohol: cron runs as any user you want |
| 08:50.07 | felosis | alcohol: or the ssh key was regenerated (there was a security flaw) |
| 08:50.07 | Dewi | alcohol: and that's all that matters |
| 08:50.08 | alcohol | I know, it runs this script as root. |
| 08:50.13 | thid | Ergo^: if your looking for some free panel you can check ispcp or webmini |
| 08:50.28 | thid | or vhcs |
| 08:50.30 | Ergo^ | thid: is direct admin good ? the gui looks nice ,and the pricing is only 300$ for lifetime license |
| 08:50.33 | Dewi | alcohol: in that case /root/.ssh/id_rsa or identity or id_dsa |
| 08:50.36 | alcohol | I'd rather not specify the login password for root in my script. |
| 08:50.41 | Ergo^ | vhcs and ispcp have security bugs.... |
| 08:50.52 | felosis | alcohol: i bet your ssh_key was regenerated due to the recent security issue so yea your going to have to get that reset up by whoever did it, or research it via google |
| 08:50.54 | alcohol | Dewi: how would I recreate the key? |
| 08:51.00 | Dewi | alcohol: and the private key goes on the server at ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 08:51.09 | Dewi | alcohol: you don't, that would be very secure would it |
| 08:51.13 | Dewi | wouldN'T |
| 08:51.30 | thid | Ergo^: almost all panels have security bugs :) ispcp is open source si it;s easier to find bug |
| 08:51.38 | Dewi | alcohol: but are you missing the private key on the client side, or the private key on the server side? |
| 08:51.43 | alcohol | Dewi: Recreate the key, or specify the password you mean? (the latter is not an option no) |
| 08:51.49 | Dewi | argh, server side is *public* I mean |
| 08:51.52 | felosis | Dewi: they are missing it on the client side |
| 08:51.53 | alcohol | Dewi: Not sure which one is missing. |
| 08:52.00 | thid | about directadmin it's quite cool. I like it more then cpanel. Easy for users and admins |
| 08:52.15 | Dewi | alcohol: you can't recreate a private key, that's the whole point of them |
| 08:52.31 | the-dude | uses diretadmin |
| 08:52.44 | Dewi | alcohol: if it really is lost you will need to generate a new private key, and ship its public key to the server side's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file |
| 08:52.55 | Dewi | alcohol: they come in pairs |
| 08:53.39 | felosis | alcohol: http://gentoo-wiki.com/SECURITY_SSH_without_a_password |
| 08:53.48 | felosis | alcohol: Warning: It is unwise to have keys without passphrases, if someone just copies the keyfile he/she will have access to all accounts that allow that key. |
| 08:53.52 | Dewi | alcohol: note of course that you need to be very careful to keep the private key secret. In fact openssh will refuse to use a private key unless its permissions are close to no access for group/other |
| 08:53.59 | Dewi | alcohol: so that could also be your issue |
| 08:54.09 | Dewi | alcohol: you need to check |
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| 08:54.31 | alcohol | Well it used to work flawless in the past, and it still works on all webservers. It's just the database server that started asking for a pwd suddenly. |
| 08:54.36 | felosis | Dewi: you can do it as root its just not recommended :) but that guide will get alcohol back up to where they were |
| 08:55.02 | Dewi | alcohol: yet another note - private keys that are not encrypted by a passphrase are slightly less bad if you limit the capabilities of that particular key on the server side using prefixes on the line in authorized_keys; see man sshd |
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| 08:55.21 | dbmoodb | ... debian admin site is down... anyone know why ? |
| 08:55.22 | felosis | alcohol: as noted before, someone must have updated the ssh package and thus new keys would have regenerated and made your previous setup null and void |
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| 08:55.26 | dbmoodb | -- not any official sites |
| 08:55.33 | dbmoodb | http://www.debian-administration.org/ |
| 08:55.45 | nevyn | Dewi: better still if you restrict the actions of the user to a limited set |
| 08:55.55 | felosis | dbmoodb: no idea was wondering the same :) |
| 08:56.01 | dbmoodb | it is responding to ping ... |
| 08:56.07 | Dewi | felosis: or maybe the server side was older, and fine, and it is alcohol's client machine that had an upgrade that trashe keys |
| 08:56.23 | dbmoodb | felosis: sucks i wanted an article.. |
| 08:56.27 | Dewi | felosis: the upgrade certainly checks for bad private keys, I'm not sure what it does if it finds them |
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| 08:56.37 | felosis | Dewi: well thats what im saying, when you setup your ssh client like that if the keys are regenerated on the server they will no longer work |
| 08:56.54 | dbmoodb | ... felosis you have to change em ? |
| 08:56.57 | Dewi | felosis: alcohol is saying many other client machines are fine though |
| 08:57.07 | Dewi | felosis: so it's more likely to be an invalidated private key if that is true |
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| 08:57.14 | felosis | Dewi: the upgrade forces you to regenerate the ssh keys, me and my friend had to do this at his work, about 50 deb machines all with new ssh keys |
| 08:57.37 | alcohol | Well no, not clients. We connect from the office to one main machine at the server park. From that machine we can ssh to any other machine (but only from that machine). |
| 08:57.47 | felosis | Dewi: when the update is installed it acts like sshd has never been installed and generate keys |
| 08:57.58 | alcohol | So there is one client, and multiple servers. |
| 08:58.01 | Dewi | felosis: sigh. Key pairs for auth are commonly generated on the client side, so their security or otherwise isn't always related to the server at all |
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| 08:58.09 | felosis | alcohol: by client machine we mean the machine you are using to gain access |
| 08:58.21 | alcohol | So the one at the office, or the main one at the server park? |
| 08:58.24 | Dewi | felosis: (caveat: sniffing sessions involving good keys talking to a bad server can break good keys) |
| 08:58.25 | felosis | alcohol: not that clients are using it ;) |
| 08:58.30 | alcohol | Cause here at the office I just use windows. :/ |
| 08:58.37 | devurandom | Hi! |
| 08:58.46 | felosis | alcohol: yea putty was a dead give away hehe |
| 08:58.55 | alcohol | I know ^^ |
| 08:59.03 | felosis | alcohol: check out that guide itll get ya back to where you were |
| 08:59.09 | microtux | hi |
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| 08:59.12 | alcohol | I do that on the main machine at the park? |
| 08:59.22 | felosis | alcohol: yes do that on the machine you putty into |
| 08:59.31 | alcohol | k, thanks (: |
| 08:59.34 | devurandom | I would like to install Debian on a remote machine in a chroot. What would you recommend? Is there a tarball containing a minimal system I could chroot to? |
| 08:59.38 | felosis | alcohol: no problemo |
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| 09:00.19 | the-dude | devurandom: check out makejail |
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| 09:02.10 | devurandom | The docs sound as if it will copy files from outside the jail into the chroot? |
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| 09:03.13 | alcohol | Weird.. it still keeps asking for a password. |
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| 09:03.26 | alcohol | Even though I created the new key file and did the copy to the server. |
| 09:03.40 | the_sniff | i dont have logs on my bind |
| 09:03.43 | the_sniff | and its urgen |
| 09:03.43 | the_sniff | t |
| 09:03.50 | the_sniff | and no one from #bind answers :< |
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| 09:05.41 | felosis | the_sniff: ask your question if someone knows they will answer, if not google is your friend :) |
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| 09:10.24 | feitingen | my default password for stuff that dont have to be secure is "password" |
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| 09:11.18 | psycodad | moin, how can i find out remotely which device an external usb disc is ? (dmesg is overwritten with other stuff) |
| 09:11.35 | devurandom | Found something using the famous search machine: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html |
| 09:11.49 | devurandom | Thanks for the tip anyway! |
| 09:12.11 | feitingen | psycodad: randomly try to mount it, it is usually /dev/sd<insert letter here> |
| 09:12.26 | sep | psycodad, lsusb -v ? |
| 09:12.37 | sep | oh device :P |
| 09:12.46 | psycodad | sep: ;) |
| 09:12.59 | sep | psycodad, cat /proc/partitions ? or are it one from many ? |
| 09:13.00 | psycodad | feitingen: i was thinking there should be a more elegant way... |
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| 09:13.41 | alcohol | felosis: Do I have to restart the sshd? I would assume not.. |
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| 09:14.31 | psycodad | sep: thx, but i only see sda and sdb which are both systemdisks and part of md, im sure i don't want to mount any of these ;) |
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| 09:17.28 | feitingen | psycodad: what else starts with an s? on my setup, usb stuff sometimes show up as scd or something worse |
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| 09:18.18 | Jemt | Greets. Is it possible to have apt-get ignore new kernel-images ? |
| 09:18.21 | Jemt | .. when upgrading |
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| 09:18.41 | Dewi | Jemt: don't install the metapackages |
| 09:18.49 | Jemt | Dewi: Huh ? |
| 09:19.10 | Dewi | Jemt: things like 'linux-image-2.6-686' will upgrade, if you install a specific package I don't think it will |
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| 09:19.20 | Dewi | Jemt: alternatively you could just hold the package. 'hold' or '=' in the GUI |
| 09:19.24 | Dewi | iirc |
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| 09:19.42 | Jemt | In the GUI ? |
| 09:19.46 | Jemt | apt-get is a command line tool |
| 09:19.48 | Dewi | Jemt: text gui |
| 09:19.52 | Dewi | Jemt: I meant. Aptitude |
| 09:19.59 | Jemt | I don't use Aptitude :p |
| 09:20.03 | psycodad | feitingen: i suspect i don't see it since vmware has the disc probably used in one of the running vms. I instructed the user to shutdown all vms on that debian host at noon and then i'll be able to recheck. I bet I see it as sdc then. Thx so far. |
| 09:20.07 | Dewi | don't blame me :) |
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| 09:20.35 | Jemt | I have just installed update-notifier to make it easier for my users to update their computers. I'm not sure, but I think it just uses apt-get. I don't want the users to be able to update the kernel image as it messes up the GRUB configuration |
| 09:21.13 | DawnLight | i'm about to purchase a cell phone but i don't know which will be able to synch with the linux tools (i don't know which linux tools also) through bluetooth. is this synchronization through bluetooth standardized by the bluetooth standard or is it a proprietary layer upon bluetooth? |
| 09:21.44 | Dewi | Jemt: hmm... fair enough. A couple of observations: 1) you should fix your grub defaults, it's pretty powerful, I drive it and my fstab off filesys labels; 2) sometimes kernel upgrades contain critical security fixes |
| 09:21.52 | Dewi | anyway I gotta go... gonna miss my train |
| 09:22.14 | Jemt | Dewi: Thanks |
| 09:22.39 | Jemt | The users are still provided with a kernel update - just using another tool I designed myself |
| 09:22.55 | rezd | Does anyone know of a guide or resources for commands in Red Hat based systems (RHEL, CentOS and Fedora) and their equivalent commands in Debian based systems (Debian and Ubuntu)? |
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| 09:26.04 | Jemt | Okay, how do I exclude a package from being installed when I do: apt-get update ? |
| 09:26.29 | Jemt | upgrade* |
| 09:26.50 | petemc | !hold |
| 09:26.51 | dpkg | hold is a status flag which tells apt (or aptitude) not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package, 'echo pkgname hold|dpkg --set-selections', or 'aptitude hold package', or use = in aptitude's curses interface. You can ignore a hold by using apt-get install foopkg; or by using + in aptitude's curses interface. [Note that this is *NOT* the same as packages which have been "held back" for dependency reasons.] |
| 09:27.27 | Jemt | Thanks |
| 09:28.16 | petemc | np |
| 09:29.55 | Jemt | How do I grep anything that does not equal? ie: dpkg --get-selections | !grep install |
| 09:30.09 | Jemt | That should give me all lines where "install" does NOT exist |
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| 09:30.11 | fengor | grep -v |
| 09:30.16 | Jemt | Oh, fancy. Thank you |
| 09:30.35 | susanne-- | so i have a drive (/dev/sdb) that has bad sectors on it. how do i map the bad sectors? data preservation isn't an issue. |
| 09:32.03 | Jemt | susanne--: UltimateBootCD (.com) might contain tools useful for that. |
| 09:32.21 | susanne-- | jemt: no console access. sorry, didn't mention that. |
| 09:32.29 | wols_ | susanne--: smartmontools |
| 09:32.38 | Jemt | susanne--: Oh, okay |
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| 09:33.10 | wols_ | Jemt: regex |
| 09:33.19 | Suprano | lol. wput segfaults for me |
| 09:33.23 | Suprano | grm,l |
| 09:33.31 | Jemt | wols_: Thanks, but grep -v did it :) |
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| 09:36.22 | Jemt | Hm, how do I hold back all packages that has something to do with the kernel-image ? TP-X31:/home/jemt# dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image |
| 09:36.22 | Jemt | linux-image-2.6-686 install |
| 09:36.22 | Jemt | linux-image-2.6.18-6-686 install |
| 09:36.47 | Jemt | I have to execute a command that will hold back all packages. Something like dpkg --set-selection linux-image* hold |
| 09:37.00 | Jemt | Wrong syntax |
| 09:37.19 | Jemt | echo linux-image* hold | dpkg --set-selections |
| 09:37.25 | Jemt | Is that possible ? |
| 09:37.45 | Jemt | I don't want to just try it as I may mess up the selections. It dosn't seem possible to remove items |
| 09:37.51 | Suprano | omg |
| 09:37.52 | Suprano | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 09:37.52 | Suprano | 0xb7ee1203 in strlen () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 |
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| 09:37.58 | Suprano | wput that is |
| 09:38.16 | FabParma | What program to configure delay etc in grub? I used a program time a go, but i cant remember the name. Thanks |
| 09:38.41 | Jemt | FabParma: It's easier to just modify /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 09:39.14 | FabParma | Jemt: Thanks, but i'd prefer a gui interface |
| 09:39.21 | Jemt | FabParma: Find "timeout x" (x=seconds) |
| 09:39.28 | wols_ | !tell FabParma about search |
| 09:39.33 | Jemt | FabParma: Overkill in this situation :) |
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| 09:45.35 | Jemt | FabParma: You may modify the fine in gedit (a GUI text editor): Using Gnome? If, do this: 1) ALT+F2 2) type in 'gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' and press ENTER 3) Find section with "timeout5". (5 is how long my GRUB waits until booting the default". Just change it to another number and press the Save button |
| 09:45.39 | Jemt | fine = file |
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| 09:46.10 | Jemt | Again, the timeout is in seconds |
| 09:46.21 | Jemt | FabParma: Dosn't get much easier then that |
| 09:46.25 | Wuher | So I'm doing an install on a live server using debootstrap/chroot, and when I try to apt-get install openssh-server, it errors out with Stopped: `/usr/bin/chage -M 99999 sshd' returned error code 1. Exiting. - haven't found anything helpful via google, anyone seen this before? |
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| 09:46.46 | Jemt | FabParma: And yes, you will be prompted to enter your root-password as it requires root privileges to modify that file |
| 09:46.47 | FabParma | Jemt: I use KDE |
| 09:47.10 | Jemt | Okay |
| 09:47.22 | acemi | kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 09:47.36 | Jemt | Thanks, acemi :) |
| 09:47.40 | acemi | :) |
| 09:48.02 | FabParma | I am sure that there is an utility for boot loader config in gui mode. No one know the name? |
| 09:49.14 | FabParma | acemi: If i dont find the gui tool I have to use "kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst" |
| 09:49.38 | acemi | kwrite is a gui |
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| 09:50.48 | dave12 | do you know any application that sync apps of debian in other pc |
| 09:51.10 | acemi | rsync |
| 09:51.39 | dave12 | I use rsync |
| 09:51.44 | ktwilight[m] | dave12, if you have vserver setup, you can easily clone a vserver guest into another pc. or, if you're using vmware or virtualbox, or similar, you can just copy and paste the image |
| 09:52.08 | ktwilight[m] | if you have no virtualisation whatsoever, then rsync may partially do it, but i doubt completely, since you're talkin about apps installed. |
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| 09:52.26 | dave12 | I rsync all /usr |
| 09:52.35 | dave12 | but some apps runs an d other not |
| 09:52.40 | utrrrongeeb | beardy: About vi/vim from yesterday... |
| 09:52.42 | dave12 | I had used rsync |
| 09:53.23 | ktwilight[m] | there's also /etc |
| 09:53.38 | ktwilight[m] | maybe /var |
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| 09:59.10 | Jemt | FabParma: http://www.debianadmin.com/configure-grub-and-usplash-settings-using-simple-gui-interface-in-ubuntu.html |
| 09:59.22 | Jemt | As wols_ suggested - a simple Google search |
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| 10:01.27 | FabParma | Jemt: Thank You, before to ask here I searched on APT and Google, but i was unable to find it. Thank You very much |
| 10:01.49 | dave12 | I sync /var7etc/home |
| 10:02.01 | dave12 | and /usr and there applications that don't run |
| 10:02.27 | Jemt | FabParma: Welcome :) |
| 10:03.21 | jelly | Jemt: ugh, it's a .tar.gz. Have you verified this thing works on a Debian installation? |
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| 10:05.47 | Jemt | jelly: Would be strange if debianadmin.com contained software incompatible with debian :) |
| 10:06.15 | jelly | why? The title clearly says "... in ubuntu" |
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| 10:06.42 | felosis | jelly: it can work in debian as ubuntu is debian based but use at your own risk |
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| 10:07.04 | jelly | felosis: oh, you've tried it? |
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| 10:07.25 | felosis | jelly: no i dont run debian with a gui so i dont use usplash :) |
| 10:07.38 | jelly | felosis: how do you know it can work, then? |
| 10:07.55 | jelly | is confused |
| 10:07.59 | ootput | hi guys, i recently implemented authpf + openvpn on my home wireless network. besides pinging the vpn server's address, how do i check to make sure the setup is functioning correctly (ie encrypted packets)? |
| 10:08.16 | simNIX | tcpdump ? |
| 10:08.40 | felosis | jelly: as said ubuntu is based on debian, it can work, though more then likely it will not work without some effort, if you are not comfortable with "messing" with your system its not adviseable to try to do ubuntu guides on debian :) |
| 10:08.51 | Jemt | jelly: Sorry, I didn't notice that. I'm not sure whether it works in Debian or not |
| 10:09.11 | Jemt | BBL :) |
| 10:09.47 | ootput | simNIX: pardon? |
| 10:09.48 | jelly | felosis: right, now _that_ I can agree with. |
| 10:10.10 | felosis | jelly: i did though use ubuntu for quite a bit until they started breaking my laptops network support with various patches so ive just said f it and moved on, but there was alot of debian guides being used in ubuntu and vice versa that did work :) |
| 10:10.15 | ootput | simNIX: oh, u mean check to see if the udp port (for openvpn) is currently sending/transmitting packets? |
| 10:10.48 | simNIX | and if its encrypted - yes |
| 10:11.09 | felosis | and now its time for me to disappear |
| 10:11.17 | felosis | AL GORE AWAY *vrooooom* |
| 10:11.28 | jelly | !info startupmanager |
| 10:12.01 | dpkg | startupmanager: (Grub and Splash screen configuration), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.9.11-1 (sid), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 1020 kB |
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| 10:12.56 | spiekey | hello |
| 10:13.05 | spiekey | how can i install x11 and gnome on debian? |
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| 10:13.40 | mquin | spiekey: "apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment" |
| 10:13.41 | jelly | !tell spiekey -about install x |
| 10:13.46 | jelly | !tell spiekey -about install gnome |
| 10:14.06 | spiekey | gnome-desktop-environment is already the newest version. |
| 10:14.42 | spiekey | ~# X |
| 10:14.43 | spiekey | X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting. |
| 10:15.01 | Suprano | i don't get it.. i provided tha CFLAGS -O0 -g and gdb still says "no debugging info" .. does dpkg-buildpackage strips the file after the build? i try to get a debug version of wput |
| 10:15.01 | jelly | spiekey: have you followed the "install x" advice? |
| 10:15.40 | Suprano | can i check for debugging symbols in a binary somehowà |
| 10:16.04 | spiekey | jelly: i am not sure what to do with "install x" :) |
| 10:16.13 | spiekey | is it a command or a bot help? |
| 10:16.23 | spiekey | oh, yes...a bot... |
| 10:16.27 | spiekey | sorry |
| 10:16.52 | jelly | spiekey: dpkg should have told you something, possibly in a separate irc tab/window |
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| 10:17.10 | spiekey | !tell spiekey -about set up x |
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| 10:18.34 | spiekey | it only helps me about etch or later |
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| 10:18.39 | spiekey | but i am running sarge |
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| 10:23.24 | spiekey | anyone? |
| 10:23.32 | spiekey | installing X on sarge cant be that hard |
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| 10:23.44 | hark | spiekey: install x-window-system or x-window-system-core |
| 10:24.15 | hark | spiekey: why not etch? |
| 10:24.21 | EsTEx | anyone know of a kernel patch to reduce latency in multimedia playback? |
| 10:24.30 | jelly | spiekey: is there a special reason for you running an unsupported old release? |
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| 10:25.32 | EsTEx | anyone? |
| 10:25.39 | spiekey | jelly: yes. Its a production system 500 miles away behind 2 firewalls. I do not really want to upgrade right now :P |
| 10:25.54 | jelly | spiekey: wtf do you need X and Gnome on it? |
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| 10:26.48 | spiekey | jelly: for some application that has a gui |
| 10:27.02 | jelly | spiekey: and you need to run it on the console? |
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| 10:27.50 | spiekey | jelly: no, in X. Why would i want to install X otherwise? :P |
| 10:27.56 | spiekey | anyway...i think i fixed it. |
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| 10:28.21 | jelly | spiekey: you don't need an X server installed to run X apps. |
| 10:28.31 | jelly | !tell spiekey about sshx |
| 10:28.50 | spiekey | i dont have X here. I run Vista on my desktop :) |
| 10:29.07 | spiekey | ok...i could get cygwin...but this is sooo slow remotly |
| 10:29.07 | jelly | spiekey: to be more precise, you don't need an X server on the remote machine. Most apps work with a local X server and ssh + X11Forwarding |
| 10:29.19 | spiekey | i prefer x11vnc |
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| 10:30.22 | jelly | spiekey: ... you have a weird way of doing things. vnc has its own X server, no need to run the real one |
| 10:30.33 | jelly | ... and x11vnc on top of it |
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| 10:31.49 | spiekey | oh...yes...you are actually right. |
| 10:31.56 | spiekey | well, there is x11vnc and vncserver |
| 10:32.15 | jelly | x11vnc is used to attach to a running X server |
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| 10:49.03 | Juventino | guys, does iwconfig support WPA2? |
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| 10:51.28 | FabParma | I just installet Debian/Kde version in dual boot with xp. Problem is that i cant change the config of grub in gui mode. Does exist a program to do that? Thank You |
| 10:53.12 | Juventino | FabParma, not that i know of, |
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| 10:53.17 | Juventino | but try #grub |
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| 10:53.46 | Suprano | i don't get it.. i provided tha CFLAGS -O0 -g and gdb still says "no debugging info" .. does dpkg-buildpackage strips the file after the build? i try to get a debug version of wput |
| 10:53.47 | Suprano | can i check for debugging symbols in a binary somehowà |
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| 10:54.35 | lbt | !xen |
| 10:54.35 | dpkg | i guess xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. OSs must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). Xen achieves high performance virtualisation without special hardware support. For detailed help, ask in #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net or see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
| 10:57.30 | wols_ | Suprano: yes it does usually |
| 10:57.58 | wols_ | Suprano: try to strip it: if you can't it hasn't symbols |
| 10:58.06 | wols_ | Suprano: edit your debian/ files instead of cflags |
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| 10:59.34 | Suprano | wols_, i edited the debian/rules |
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| 11:03.16 | DawnLight | i've asked http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2008/05/msg00442.html <- this question and i was asked to attach the patch w/ changelod entry etc.. what is this changelog entry thing? and what would be the etc? i'm sorry, i'm not familiar with the terms used in the packaging system |
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| 11:12.05 | xexe | hi all who is print list hardware server? |
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| 11:12.44 | wols_ | !tell xexe about hcl |
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| 11:13.30 | titii | Hello friends, I would like to ask you, is there some DC++ client for debian for console? No graphic interface |
| 11:13.50 | xexe | how print hardware list my server ? |
| 11:14.06 | mquin | xexe: lshw |
| 11:14.31 | wols_ | !tell titii about search |
| 11:14.48 | xexe | mquin: command not found |
| 11:14.49 | xexe | (( |
| 11:14.58 | mquin | xexe: apt-get install lshw |
| 11:15.42 | titii | wols_ ??? wtf. so for mtf is that channel? omg |
| 11:15.55 | wols_ | !tell titii about fish |
| 11:16.30 | titii | wols_ if you are as well or just go home for a weekend to relax :) |
| 11:16.47 | wols_ | english please |
| 11:17.15 | xexe | mquin: alternative comand ? |
| 11:17.33 | titii | wols_ i just have to go home for relax my friend |
| 11:17.39 | titii | sorry you! |
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| 11:18.09 | mquin | xexe: lspci will give you some limited info, or just poke around in /sys |
| 11:18.25 | mquin | dmidecode might be useful as well |
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| 11:18.34 | wols_ | !tell xexe about what's my hardware |
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| 11:18.44 | titii | hey friends, what is the Fish shell? |
| 11:18.51 | Blast_Hardcheese | Fish is awesome |
| 11:18.58 | Blast_Hardcheese | It's a shell |
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| 11:18.59 | xexe | mquin: Oooo senx |
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| 11:19.16 | wols_ | there is a FSCKING link in that factoid. get off your lazy butt! |
| 11:19.38 | FabParma | how to discover if im using gdm or kdm? |
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| 11:20.22 | tralala | FabParma, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 11:20.24 | wols_ | FabParma: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S???dm |
| 11:20.29 | wols_ | or that |
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| 11:22.22 | yllar | hi, i'm having problems with cron.d ltarce shows that cron only sees /etc/cron.d/php5 and /etc/cron.d/anacron :-/ other files, like munin are not executed |
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| 11:23.14 | yllar | permissions are same |
| 11:23.44 | tralala | yllar, do they have valid names for run-parts? |
| 11:24.27 | yllar | tralala, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 506 7. aug 2007 munin-node |
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| 11:29.14 | pozic | see separated\ by\ spaces.pdf will result in opening pdf reader on separated, by, and spaces.pdf. Can I change that somewhere so that it does the right thing? |
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| 11:30.01 | telemachus | clear |
| 11:30.15 | Juventino | guys, does iwconfig support WPA2? |
| 11:30.29 | tralala | Juventino, wpa_supplicant does |
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| 11:32.38 | Juventino | hmm |
| 11:32.52 | pozic | Never mind. |
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| 11:33.47 | Juventino | but wpa_supplicant works only with iwp, but i got iwl driver |
| 11:34.18 | likevinyl | Floresta: Mujer y su hijo atropellados. Nene de 4 anios muere. |
| 11:34.20 | likevinyl | _ |
| 11:35.10 | wols_ | !es |
| 11:35.11 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 11:35.42 | likevinyl | la base marambio no es la mas fria |
| 11:35.52 | likevinyl | La plata -6 grados |
| 11:35.53 | likevinyl | _ |
| 11:36.03 | wols_ | !tell likevinyl about es |
| 11:36.07 | likevinyl | Ezeiza -5 grados |
| 11:36.22 | likevinyl | wols_ wtf |
| 11:36.24 | likevinyl | _ |
| 11:37.32 | miksuh | likevinyl: english |
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| 11:40.58 | rmop | hi all |
| 11:41.07 | wols_ | hi you |
| 11:41.13 | N1ghtCrawler | Hello, when i tryes to boot my server i get the message mounting /dev/hdb1 on /root failed: no sutch device |
| 11:41.23 | DawnLight | :( i don't know which cell phone to purchase. my only wish is that it will synchronize with my computer :( |
| 11:41.39 | N1ghtCrawler | theproblem is that he should mount hda1 on root i beleave |
| 11:41.45 | zomgoblinz_ | nokia n80 |
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| 11:43.13 | wols_ | DawnLight: aren't there tons of reviews out there? |
| 11:43.42 | DawnLight | wols_: i don't find any |
| 11:43.48 | N1ghtCrawler | do i need to change grub to fix my problem? |
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| 11:44.10 | DawnLight | nvrpunk: do you have one? |
| 11:44.15 | tralala | N1ghtCrawler, most likely fstab |
| 11:44.22 | wols_ | DawnLight: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=RRi&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=mobile+phone+linux+synchronizing&spell=1 |
| 11:44.24 | yllar | n80 is buggy phone and nokia is not making it anymore |
| 11:44.27 | nvrpunk | DawnLight, pm ok? |
| 11:44.40 | N1ghtCrawler | tralala how do i change that from the rescue shell?= |
| 11:45.04 | wols_ | DawnLight: http://tuxmobil.org/phones_survey_ericsson.html |
| 11:45.25 | miksuh | yllar: try Nokia N95 instead :) |
| 11:45.39 | miksuh | I have one and it works wery well |
| 11:45.56 | yllar | miksuh, i dont have n80 but it was suggested |
| 11:46.08 | tralala | N1ghtCrawler, use a text editor |
| 11:46.24 | wols_ | DawnLight: make a shortlist from various manufacturer and then check there to see which ones are supported |
| 11:47.22 | N1ghtCrawler | tralala just "vi /etc/fstab" I dont need to mount any drives first? |
| 11:47.40 | miksuh | I don't know about synchronizing with evolution etc, but |
| 11:48.30 | tralala | N1ghtCrawler, if your /etc is on your root partition, yes - only vi |
| 11:48.40 | miksuh | N95 works just great with Gnome bluetooh obex stuff etc |
| 11:48.49 | miksuh | Lenny has those gnome bluetooth tools |
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| 11:49.11 | N1ghtCrawler | tralala /etc/fstab is empty :S |
| 11:49.16 | miksuh | It's really easy to send file to phione and receive files from phone |
| 11:49.27 | miksuh | phione = phone |
| 11:49.44 | DawnLight | miksuh: /msg? |
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| 11:51.41 | tralala | N1ghtCrawler, that's really bad |
| 11:52.03 | yllar | but does anyone knows why /etc/cron.d scripts are ignored ? run-parts --lsbsysinit --verbose /etc/cron.d doesn't show any errors |
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| 11:52.56 | N1ghtCrawler | but i am in some kind of rescue shell, "(initramfs)" it's not the bootup image i am watching? |
| 11:53.32 | wols_ | N1ghtCrawler: before the shell came there was an error message |
| 11:53.35 | tralala | N1ghtCrawler, it is. Try to rescue boot the debian installer. |
| 11:53.36 | wols_ | several probably |
| 11:54.02 | wols_ | !tell N1ghtCrawler about rescue |
| 11:54.41 | N1ghtCrawler | i have no cd rom :( |
| 11:55.14 | tralala | then you really are out of luck |
| 11:55.25 | wols_ | N1ghtCrawler: run "mount" |
| 11:55.32 | N1ghtCrawler | and now i'm stuck in vi... Cant get out. vi+ swedish keyboard+english keybardlayout settings sucks |
| 11:55.36 | wols_ | might work if you are lucky. also what are the errors? |
| 11:56.07 | wols_ | esc, shif<key right of l", q! |
| 11:56.10 | wols_ | that should do it |
| 11:56.36 | N1ghtCrawler | did it the hard way, Powerbutton :D |
| 11:57.13 | wols_ | N1ghtCrawler: so what's in your fstab? was it hdb or hda? |
| 11:57.22 | wols_ | or sda/sdb? |
| 11:57.49 | N1ghtCrawler | wols_ win i run "vi /etc/fstab" in my rescue shell it showed up nothing |
| 11:57.58 | N1ghtCrawler | just empty |
| 11:58.00 | wols_ | cause nothing was mounted |
| 11:58.24 | wols_ | when you are back in the rescue shell: cat /proc/partitions |
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| 11:59.05 | N1ghtCrawler | yep, he lines upp all my drives there |
| 11:59.38 | wols_ | and what does it say? |
| 12:00.11 | N1ghtCrawler | 3 0 <lots of numbers> hda1 |
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| 12:00.25 | N1ghtCrawler | and so on, i've got six drives in that machine |
| 12:00.33 | wols_ | a hdb1? |
| 12:00.42 | N1ghtCrawler | yepp |
| 12:00.54 | wols_ | the 3rd number on every line is the size in kB |
| 12:01.06 | wols_ | so which one matches your linux /? |
| 12:01.15 | wols_ | hda1 or hdb1 or another one? |
| 12:01.23 | N1ghtCrawler | i beleave it should be the hda1 |
| 12:01.33 | wols_ | ok |
| 12:01.57 | wols_ | mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt (if it's ext3 and /mnt exists) |
| 12:02.18 | N1ghtCrawler | i picked up php sys info before rebbot to chek my uptime and it says "/ext3/dev/hda1" |
| 12:02.40 | wols_ | ok, so mount it |
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| 12:04.44 | N1ghtCrawler | it only says invaild argument |
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| 12:06.23 | N1ghtCrawler | this is why i never reebot this machine.. It always fucks up.. |
| 12:08.47 | wols_ | N1ghtCrawler: does /mnt exist? |
| 12:09.34 | N1ghtCrawler | wols_ yepp |
| 12:09.44 | N1ghtCrawler | but i belave it's related to grub |
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| 12:10.12 | N1ghtCrawler | cus when i change the grub boot command he says he cant boot hda1 now. |
| 12:10.14 | wols_ | N1ghtCrawler: do you get the grub menu? |
| 12:10.40 | N1ghtCrawler | yepp |
| 12:10.53 | wols_ | then select your kernel with cursor keys and press "e" |
| 12:11.10 | wols_ | then edit the root=/dev/hdb1 there to root=/dev/hda1 |
| 12:11.25 | wols_ | if it's the fstab you MUST mount the partition and change it there |
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| 12:12.42 | N1ghtCrawler | yeah, thats what i did, i changed hdb1 to hda1 and when i did that i got the same message as befor but he complaned about hda1 instead |
| 12:12.47 | N1ghtCrawler | "No sutch device" |
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| 12:14.06 | N1ghtCrawler | The problem occurs after he says "Mounting root filesystem..." |
| 12:14.29 | N1ghtCrawler | Running local scripts ... premount" |
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| 12:15.29 | N1ghtCrawler | mounting /dev/hda1 (or hdb1) on root failed: ni sutch device |
| 12:15.52 | DustyDingo | hm, after a xorg upgrade theres no xset. is it still included in one package? |
| 12:15.58 | wols_ | N1ghtCrawler: dmesg |
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| 12:16.23 | wols_ | also if /proc/partitions has a hda1 then there is a hda1, end of story |
| 12:16.23 | stew | DustyDingo: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 12:16.31 | wols_ | check your /dev/hda1 |
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| 12:17.02 | N1ghtCrawler | chek my hda1 how? I got errors mounting? |
| 12:17.39 | wols_ | the /dev entry for it |
| 12:17.52 | g00se | Anybody managed to connect to BTOpenzone wireless in UK? |
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| 12:18.36 | N1ghtCrawler | wols_ when i do an "ls /dev | grep hd" all the drives show up |
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| 12:19.07 | wols_ | N1ghtCrawler: hda1 not "hd" |
| 12:19.08 | E-bola | Hi all, i have a serious problem on 1 single of my debian servers. Regardless of how many times i delete the host keys |
| 12:19.16 | E-bola | they are always shown as blacklisted |
| 12:19.24 | E-bola | ive tried reconfigurering openssh-server 4 times now |
| 12:19.24 | N1ghtCrawler | wols_ hda1 shows up to |
| 12:19.31 | E-bola | and all the keys it makes are blacklisted |
| 12:19.32 | wols_ | check your ssl lib there. version and so |
| 12:19.34 | E-bola | what can cause this |
| 12:19.44 | wols_ | E-bola: a non update sll lib |
| 12:19.49 | stew | E-bola: you need to upgrade openssl and libssl0.9.8 |
| 12:19.52 | E-bola | wols: but i just updated it |
| 12:19.55 | E-bola | with apt-get |
| 12:20.00 | wols_ | E-bola: check |
| 12:20.11 | wols_ | compare versions, filesizes, filedates, etc |
| 12:20.17 | stew | E-bola: show us the output of "apt-cache policy libssl0.9.8 openssl" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 12:20.27 | QinJia | Hello,anyone,I have one question! About wireless connect for debian and windows xp, Who have tried this ? |
| 12:20.38 | wols_ | !tell QinJia about anyone |
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| 12:20.45 | stratos_ | Hi all, howto create symlink /dev/tape --> /dev/nst0 with udev |
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| 12:20.53 | stew | E-bola: most people who have this problem have at some point installed openssl from testing and then tried to switch back to stable and therefore its no longer updating correctly |
| 12:21.01 | DustyDingo | hm, x11-xserver-utils should include the file /usr/bin/xset |
| 12:21.11 | DustyDingo | the package is installed, but the file isn't |
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| 12:21.50 | QinJia | Who have tried to connect debian with windows xp by wireless? Who can help me? |
| 12:22.13 | wols_ | QinJia: no one if you ask like that |
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| 12:23.19 | QinJia | wols_: no, i hava a notebook with debian, but other one uses windows xp |
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| 12:23.29 | QinJia | sorry |
| 12:23.37 | lvh | hey |
| 12:23.50 | lvh | a bit ot, but has anyone come across any wiki software that's easy to set up with SF.net project webspace? |
| 12:24.13 | E-bola | ok my output of apt-cache policy libssl0.9.8 openssl > http://paste.lisp.org/display/61458 |
| 12:24.41 | E-bola | i dont spot any errors there? |
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| 12:25.21 | E-bola | The only difference with this server and all my other etch servers, are that this one is a vmware virtual server, but i dont see how that has anything to do with it |
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| 12:27.15 | QinJia | I have a pcmcia wireless card, buffalo , and I have install debian etch. It looks the wireless card work fine, but it can't connect to anonther notebook which install windows xp sp2. Who know why like this ? |
| 12:27.18 | E-bola | stew / wols: is there anything wrong with the output i pasted? |
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| 12:28.10 | stew | E-bola: it looks ok |
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| 12:28.31 | stew | E-bola: how are you trying to regenerate the host keys? |
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| 12:28.50 | drkwolf | QinJia: can you ping your windos machine ? |
| 12:28.59 | E-bola | stew: by running dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server |
| 12:29.08 | stew | E-bola: are you removing the old keys first? |
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| 12:29.27 | wols_ | drkwolf: XP has a firewall that block icmp |
| 12:29.35 | E-bola | stew: yes -> compaq:/etc/ssh# rm ssh_host_* |
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| 12:30.06 | E-bola | It keeps claiming they are blacklisted... |
| 12:30.11 | QinJia | drkwolf:no,i can7t |
| 12:30.19 | QinJia | drkwolf:i can't |
| 12:30.28 | khaleel5000 | I am intending of buying Nvidia fx5500 PCI (not PCI EXPRESS ,just PCI) card i have debian etch, is there any known problem with pci cards on motherboards with AGP and PCI slot in linux? |
| 12:30.31 | QinJia | wols_:the firewall has closed |
| 12:31.04 | wols_ | khaleel5000: no |
| 12:31.53 | mbroeker | khaleel5000, but the fx 5x00 series is slow and the 6x00 series is much more faster |
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| 12:32.27 | QinJia | wols_: I want to know , how can i see wheather the wireless works well? |
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| 12:32.52 | E-bola | is so tired of this ssl bug |
| 12:33.45 | khaleel5000 | mbroeker: yeah i wanted to buy 6 or 7 series but i cant get one here. |
| 12:34.26 | khaleel5000 | wols_: hey!. thanks, you are always prompt and helpful. |
| 12:35.04 | mbroeker | khaleel5000, i think it's better to wait for a cheap 6800lt card for approx 45⬠with 128 MB Ram than the slow 5x00 series whith 256 MB Ram. |
| 12:35.10 | wols_ | khaleel5000: mbroeker is right. and with a PCI slot you could buy a GF4MX and not really lose perofmance |
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| 12:35.28 | wols_ | khaleel5000: what will the card be used for? |
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| 12:36.18 | devurandom | unstable is more stable than testing, right? |
| 12:36.25 | wols_ | no |
| 12:36.26 | stew | devurandom: no |
| 12:36.35 | devurandom | Other way round? |
| 12:36.38 | wols_ | !tell devurandom about sid |
| 12:36.47 | stew | devurandom: yes |
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| 12:37.39 | fairway | hi all |
| 12:37.42 | fairway | does anyone know vlc? |
| 12:38.02 | devurandom | Can I "unmask" a specific package so I get the testing version instead of the stable one? |
| 12:38.08 | khaleel5000 | mbroeker: wols_ I am not in Europe or North America, I am in pakistan i totally agree with mbroeker but I cant get a new 6/7 series AGP card here.[I bought used 6800 gt went dead after 2 months, no significant tech suppor tso I cant sove it |
| 12:38.15 | JyZyXEL | what was that commandline tool to handle video? |
| 12:38.18 | JyZyXEL | video coding |
| 12:38.20 | JyZyXEL | decoding |
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| 12:38.30 | devurandom | (In this particular case there exists no stable version yet.) |
| 12:38.52 | khaleel5000 | wols_: basically i had a discrete graphic card (5600fx) so now I am kind of irritated with onbord wone |
| 12:39.01 | khaleel5000 | its via chrome sr |
| 12:39.03 | khaleel5000 | s3* |
| 12:39.26 | devurandom | Or do I have to import the whole testing repository? |
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| 12:40.07 | E-bola | wols: i have now compared filesize and date of all the files in the libssl0.9.8 package, they all match with another debian server |
| 12:40.20 | E-bola | So thats probably not whats wrong... What else can i do? |
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| 12:40.57 | E-bola | Could ssh-vulnkey be wrong in thinking the keys are vunerable? |
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| 12:41.10 | wols_ | E-bola: any other libssl there? /usr/local/ maybe? |
| 12:41.31 | wols_ | !tell devurandom about ssb |
| 12:41.47 | wols_ | JyZyXEL: mencoder |
| 12:42.11 | JyZyXEL | ffmpeg was what i was looking |
| 12:42.22 | E-bola | wols: not as far as i can tell... |
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| 12:42.47 | wols_ | E-bola: maybe the new key elswhere and copy it over, then test |
| 12:42.50 | wols_ | on a server that works |
| 12:43.12 | devurandom | wols_: That means I cannot use one package from testing, if the rest of the system runs stable? |
| 12:43.17 | E-bola | you mean generate it ona nother server and copy it over? to the server with the problem? |
| 12:43.28 | flami | Hi, Im trying to get samba/nfs sharing to work in kde , It says that i need to configure file sharing , which I did several times now, but it still wont let me share. And im out of ideas where to look for the error |
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| 12:43.57 | E-bola | wols: mm i have some files from the 0.9.7 lib installed, is that a problem? |
| 12:44.09 | JyZyXEL | i need to find application that will take audio track out of 200 .flv files |
| 12:44.11 | E-bola | /usr/lib/i486/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 |
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| 12:44.17 | DustyDingo | hm, any idears what happened to 'xset'? it's not included in the x11-xserver-utils anymore |
| 12:44.26 | DustyDingo | (testing) |
| 12:44.51 | XTZGZoReX | I accidentally deleted some files, however, they were in use when I did it |
| 12:44.56 | XTZGZoReX | Is there any way to reverse it? |
| 12:45.33 | b_jonas | DustyDingo: 'dpkg-query -S $(type -p xset)' says 'xbase-clients: /usr/bin/xset' for me |
| 12:45.49 | b_jonas | (this is on etch, and xset does work for me) |
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| 12:46.49 | DustyDingo | b_jonas: etch isn't relevant |
| 12:47.29 | b_jonas | DustyDingo: ok, so do you have that package installed? |
| 12:47.40 | DustyDingo | b_jonas: yes |
| 12:48.02 | b_jonas | and it didn't install /usr/bin/xset for you? |
| 12:48.19 | DustyDingo | than it would be installed, wouldn't it |
| 12:48.33 | DustyDingo | *then |
| 12:48.49 | b_jonas | well, you said only "it's not included in the x11-xserver-utils anymore" |
| 12:48.59 | XTZGZoReX | Anyone have an idea, please? =X |
| 12:49.03 | b_jonas | so whatever |
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| 12:55.29 | crazyfrog | in a debian box(192.168.1.200), i installed xserver-xorg-core ,and after issue "X -query 192.168.1.100",it get this error message,what problem it should be? |
| 12:55.34 | crazyfrog | in a debian box(192.168.1.200), i installed xserver-xorg-core ,and after issue "X -query 192.168.1.100",it get this error message,what problem it should be? |
| 12:56.01 | crazyfrog | AUDIT: Thu Jan 6 06:10:18 2000: 2864 X: client 1 rejected from IP 192.168.1.100 |
| 12:56.01 | crazyfrog | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.01 | crazyfrog | AUDIT: Thu Jan 6 06:10:33 2000: 2864 X: client 1 rejected from IP 192.168.1.100 |
| 12:56.01 | crazyfrog | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.01 | crazyfrog | AUDIT: Thu Jan 6 06:10:48 2000: 2864 X: client 1 rejected from IP 192.168.1.100 |
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| 12:56.05 | E-bola | hmm so i guess i gotta accept i cant generate keys on this server... |
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| 12:57.40 | zamaliphe | i have get new MB the asus p5kpl with G31 express chipset and after i installed it i trayed to run my installed ver of debian but it filled to boot i sayed its ok and tray to re instll debian but it didnot reconiz my network card ?waht to do ? |
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| 12:58.19 | NetNiet | Is someboy here working with PowerDNS ? |
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| 12:59.32 | DustyDingo | that's on my system (lenny): http://phpfi.com/320749 and that's how it should be: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/x11-xserver-utils |
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| 13:00.34 | crazyfrog | i installed xserver-xorg-core in a debian box(192.168.1.200),and when i issue "X -query 192.168.1.100",it gets the error message http://rafb.net/p/MH3Ikq21.html .what problem it should be? |
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| 13:02.22 | dave12 | what is it fcsk died level 8 |
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| 13:02.40 | b_jonas | crazyfrog: try to paste the full log, the error is often more up |
| 13:02.48 | b_jonas | I'm not sure it is in this case as well though |
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| 13:03.39 | JyZyXEL | any idea how you print unique url's from a list that has a \n delimiter? |
| 13:03.43 | b_jonas | dave12: did it not print any error message? |
| 13:03.57 | JyZyXEL | or might even be \r\n im not sure |
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| 13:04.11 | DustyDingo | no one with testing and xorg here? |
| 13:04.20 | streuner | !info urlview |
| 13:04.25 | dpkg | urlview: (Extracts URLs from text), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.9-18 (sid), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 100 kB |
| 13:04.39 | iateadonut | how do i check which process is using a specific device? |
| 13:04.42 | wols_ | JyZyXEL: %0D or such |
| 13:04.51 | wols_ | iateadonut: lsof |
| 13:04.54 | JyZyXEL | what |
| 13:05.04 | JyZyXEL | %0D is the name of some tool? |
| 13:05.06 | crazyfrog | the full log:http://rafb.net/p/0s1TFd22.html |
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| 13:05.59 | dave12 | yes |
| 13:05.59 | crazyfrog | http://rafb.net/p/0s1TFd22.html |
| 13:06.05 | dave12 | fcsk died level 8 |
| 13:06.07 | dave12 | fial |
| 13:06.09 | dave12 | fail |
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| 13:06.58 | stew | crazyfrog: /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie |
| 13:08.01 | b_jonas | crazyfrog: wow, I haven't seen x crash with such a short log except when I accidentally compiled linux without sysV ipc support |
| 13:08.07 | zamaliphe | what to do if debian installer didnot find my network card ? |
| 13:08.16 | dave12 | anyone knows how to solve the problem |
| 13:08.16 | DustyDingo | hm, it seems that i have a complete fucked up x11-xserver-utils package |
| 13:08.29 | b_jonas | zamaliphe: it's not sarge, right? |
| 13:08.41 | iateadonut | i don't see this in the man for ps. |
| 13:08.56 | iateadonut | ps is not the correct command to see which process is using a specific device? |
| 13:08.57 | b_jonas | dave12: read the manpage |
| 13:09.01 | DustyDingo | can anyone with an up to date testing can post a dpkg-query -L x11-xserver-utils please? |
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| 13:09.46 | zamaliphe | b_jonas no it is testing |
| 13:10.04 | mbroeker | DustyDingo, http://rafb.net/p/KEuiIm79.html |
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| 13:10.09 | DustyDingo | thx |
| 13:10.10 | live | how can I install .deb packages? |
| 13:10.25 | iateadonut | dpkg |
| 13:10.27 | microtux | . |
| 13:10.41 | DustyDingo | mbroeker: mbroeker when have you updated the last time? |
| 13:10.49 | __ne2k | live: dpkg --install |
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| 13:10.53 | s14ck | -es |
| 13:10.53 | mbroeker | dustybin, for 20 minutes |
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| 13:10.57 | iateadonut | live: at a terminal window, type "man dpkg" |
| 13:11.14 | DustyDingo | strange |
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| 13:11.20 | mbroeker | DustyDingo, for 20 minutes, ok |
| 13:11.29 | __ne2k | JyZyXEL: you could use |sort |uniq |
| 13:11.38 | DustyDingo | is there a way to deinstall a package without removing packages, which depend on it? |
| 13:11.51 | stew | DustyDingo: you know, you can also get a package list from http://packages.debian.org/$packagename or probably from /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list |
| 13:12.01 | __ne2k | DustyDingo: why would you want to? the dependencies are there to protect you from breaking your system |
| 13:12.04 | stew | DustyDingo: why would you want to? |
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| 13:12.17 | b_jonas | live: or, if you want a gui app, you can use aptitude, though it's a bit difficult to learn to use |
| 13:12.35 | live | is " dpkg -i openoffice.org-core01_2.4.0-12_i386.deb" right? |
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| 13:12.47 | iateadonut | looks correct. |
| 13:12.52 | iateadonut | but, why aren't you using apt-get? |
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| 13:12.55 | stew | live: why would you do that instead of using apt-get or aptitude? |
| 13:12.57 | __ne2k | live: looks good to me. obviously it assumes that that file is in the current direcory |
| 13:12.59 | DustyDingo | stew: i know |
| 13:13.17 | stew | DustyDingo: you know what? |
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| 13:13.29 | live | stew: apt-get says broken package |
| 13:13.38 | __ne2k | stew: presumably he wants to install a package that has been released by a software author, but hasn't made its way into the repository yet |
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| 13:14.04 | DustyDingo | i simply want to reinstall and download the x11-xserver-utils package without reinstalling the entire xorg stuff |
| 13:14.05 | stew | __ne2k: i wouldn't presume that. if i had to guess he just wants to reinstall |
| 13:14.16 | stew | DustyDingo: aptitude reinstall x11-xserver-utils |
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| 13:14.24 | stew | live: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 13:15.01 | zamaliphe | stew what to do if debian installer didnot find my network card ? i must have the nework card you know |
| 13:15.05 | __ne2k | DustyDingo: there is a force reinstall command to apt-get, as far as I know. you could manually delete the package from /var/cache/apt/packages if you suspect it is corrupted |
| 13:15.20 | stew | zamaliphe: what network card? |
| 13:15.24 | knoxy | hi all.. My maildrop is not delivery my emails to maildir.. How can I do to fix it? I use postfix + maildrop + mailscanner + spamassassin + clamav + bitdefender + mysql + courier-imap + courier-authdaemon + courier-pop.... I cut my master.cf and maildroprc in this file to example: http://pastebin.ca/1034036 |
| 13:15.36 | stew | DustyDingo has no reason to force anything |
| 13:15.42 | DustyDingo | ah |
| 13:15.49 | DustyDingo | the package was corrupt indeed |
| 13:16.06 | __ne2k | stew: sorry -- I'll stay out of it, I must have missed some history :) |
| 13:16.17 | DustyDingo | after reinstalling it with aptitute it lists the files as espected |
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| 13:17.41 | zamaliphe | stew it is ich7 of the MB asus p5kpl G31 express chipset |
| 13:17.49 | DustyDingo | but that worries me alot, i should do a clean installation from scatch, who knows if other packages aren't corrupt too |
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| 13:19.11 | stew | DustyDingo: debsums would tell you |
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| 13:19.49 | stew | zamaliphe: i don't know what any of that means. if it is a new motherboard you could try an installer with a newer kernel: /msg dpkg kmuto ; /msg dpkg etchnhalf |
| 13:19.59 | Juventino | hello |
| 13:20.08 | stew | zamaliphe: if you could find out which kernel module supports the card you could try modprobing it by hand |
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| 13:20.30 | stew | zamaliphe: if you could find out the vendorid:deviceid from lspci -n for that card, we could help you figure out which kernel support it |
| 13:20.42 | Juventino | guys, since i updatd to etchnhalf, i got that error: |
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| 13:20.58 | Juventino | Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 22 |
| 13:20.59 | Juventino | of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 20. |
| 13:20.59 | Juventino | Some things may be broken... |
| 13:21.03 | Juventino | sorry for the flood |
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| 13:21.05 | XTZGZoReX | err |
| 13:21.15 | XTZGZoReX | anyone have a clue why i suddenly cant connect to my sftp server over ssh? |
| 13:21.38 | XTZGZoReX | says something like "wrong protocol" |
| 13:21.38 | XTZGZoReX | =/ |
| 13:21.59 | stew | Juventino: sounds like you'd need to install wireless-tools from backports.org: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 13:22.00 | microtux | hi |
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| 13:22.17 | Juventino | thnx stew |
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| 13:22.43 | microtux | i want some help on how tu use ndiswrapper to install my usb wireless on debian |
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| 13:23.41 | wols_ | !ndiswrapper |
| 13:23.41 | dpkg | ndiswrapper is, like, a way to wrap Windows drivers so that they can be used on Linux (x86 or x86-64 only). If there is a Linux driver for your card, first consider that instead; if there isn't, ask me about <ndiswrapper one-liner> to set up NDISwrapper. #ndiswrapper @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 13:24.41 | fbn | hi, is there a way to delete remove files on a ftp server from a shell script? something like rsync does? |
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| 13:25.54 | wols_ | fbn: ncftpput -W |
| 13:25.59 | wols_ | fbn: read its manpage |
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| 13:28.56 | fbn | wols_: thanks |
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| 13:30.35 | JyZyXEL | how to delete duplicate files from directory |
| 13:33.36 | __ne2k | JyZyXEL: you can't have more than one file of the same name in a directory -- what do you mean? |
| 13:33.56 | JyZyXEL | __ne2k apt-get install fdupes solved the problem |
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| 13:34.10 | __ne2k | JyZyXEL: whut? |
| 13:34.20 | streuner_ | !info fdupes |
| 13:34.22 | dpkg | fdupes: (identifies duplicate files within given directories), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.50-PR2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 80 kB |
| 13:34.37 | __ne2k | streuner_: whut? |
| 13:34.46 | __ne2k | streuner_: what does it mean? |
| 13:35.02 | streuner_ | i have not the slidest idea |
| 13:35.41 | Eulex | files with the same _contents_, not the file names. |
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| 13:35.51 | streuner_ | yeah |
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| 13:37.22 | konadr | is there a way to specify an interface to use in the apt-mirror configuration ? |
| 13:37.33 | __ne2k | why does the default debian installation create an apt.sources file which refers to the distribution by dynamic name (stable, testing, etc.) rather than by its fixed name (etch, sid, woody, etc.)? I often install servers and leave them running for two years before I go back and want to do something new on them, and when I run apt-get install blah the "stable" has actually moved up a gear, so... |
| 13:37.34 | __ne2k | ...everything has changed! |
| 13:38.24 | wols_ | cause if you don't regularly update servers (and "stable" helps with this), it gets insecure. we don't want to |
| 13:38.27 | wols_ | *that |
| 13:38.49 | wols_ | e.g. the only supported version right now is stable, not sarge, not woody |
| 13:39.03 | wols_ | and stable is etch, nothing else |
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| 13:40.28 | ipstatic | put what if you are running a machine that is not the current version of stable, but it has the dynamic name of stable, and you do an apt-get upgrade |
| 13:40.46 | ipstatic | you will be somewhere in between right? |
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| 13:41.31 | Juventino | guys, if there's a computer running windows with file sharing on the same network as a Debian running PC, if i use samba on it, will that allow me to fetch files through file sharing? |
| 13:41.47 | wols_ | Juventino: no |
| 13:41.50 | wols_ | smbfs will tho |
| 13:42.03 | wols_ | samba is the server only |
| 13:42.20 | JyZyXEL | hmm any commandline tool that could combine lots of .mp3 files together as a one song? |
| 13:42.27 | Juventino | well can i fetch from windows if i have samba installed? |
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| 13:43.31 | Tapout | problem: the mysql server version available won't support 4GB+ buffer sizes for key_buffer_size. It has been fixed in 5.0.52 and later. Should I aptitude remove, source compile? What would you guys do to get to a later version of mysql. I don't mind 5.0 or 5.1 branch... |
| 13:44.03 | alcohol | I thought the 4gb was a system limit? 32bit? |
| 13:44.19 | Tapout | No, limit imposed in <5.0.52 |
| 13:44.30 | alcohol | You're better off asking in #mysql |
| 13:44.37 | Tapout | nah this is debian specific |
| 13:44.47 | xsdg | JyZyXEL: look at the "quelcom" package |
| 13:44.48 | alcohol | Why? |
| 13:44.57 | JyZyXEL | xsdg ok thanks |
| 13:45.22 | Tapout | I wanna know how to proceed; should I remove the old package and source compile... or is there secondary locations for newer versions? |
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| 13:45.32 | Traveler | http://www.FakeMagazineCover.com - Upload photo to fake magazine cover templates |
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| 13:45.41 | Traveler | http://www.SillyWebcam.com - Play with webcam online (games, take pics, effects) |
| 13:45.47 | Traveler | http://www.Is-A-Jerk.com - Random Insults/Anon Email |
| 13:45.48 | ivant | Hello. I need to use g++-3.2, but the earliest version of gcc/g++ available in repositories now is 3.3. Where do I find the older gcc (and all the dependencies)? |
| 13:45.48 | xsdg | !ops Traveler |
| 13:45.48 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: xsdg complains about: Traveler |
| 13:45.54 | Traveler | http://www.VirtualHolyBible.com - Holy Bible, online version |
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| 13:46.00 | Tapout | !ops traveler |
| 13:46.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: tapout complains about: traveler |
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| 13:46.03 | JyZyXEL | xsdg its just what i needed, thank you! |
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| 13:46.18 | xsdg | JyZyXEL: cool; np |
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| 13:49.16 | LOOP` | hi people |
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| 13:50.45 | Tapout | can you put experimental packages on etch? |
| 13:51.04 | wols_ | Tapout: on your own risk if you know what you are doing |
| 13:51.21 | Juventino | Tapout, but then you'll have a mixed up system, which is generally not recommended |
| 13:51.26 | abrotman | since you just had to ask ... |
| 13:51.34 | abrotman | chii: hi |
| 13:51.41 | abrotman | chii: what are you? |
| 13:51.46 | LOOP` | I've a problem with my debian etch, I must use a canonscan lide20, but when I do in bash scanimage -L bash return me this error: loop@asus:~$ scanimage -L |
| 13:51.46 | LOOP` | device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname stk11xx virtual device |
| 13:51.46 | LOOP` | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.48 | hifi | get firefox 3 from experimental to unstable :) |
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| 13:52.15 | Tapout | what method would you guys use to get latest 5.1 or 5.0 mysql server on your box... source compile or use experimental on etch? |
| 13:52.27 | papat | if I can connect to a wireless LAN via AP and then I scan the network and the output says all ports filtered on the AP, which has not a firewall embedded, what's going on? Any ideas? |
| 13:52.30 | abrotman | create your own package? |
| 13:52.35 | Tapout | abrotman, if I knew how :0 |
| 13:52.45 | Tapout | abrotman, maybe I should read how somewhere ;) |
| 13:52.49 | abrotman | Tapout: /msg dpkg mg |
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| 13:53.16 | Tapout | abrotman, thx |
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| 13:55.45 | nfred | anyone has already tested Intel Microcode Update |
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| 13:56.55 | wols_ | nfred: kinda doubt there is such a thing in debian |
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| 13:57.16 | nfred | there is an entry in the kernel... |
| 13:57.16 | Juventino | hmm |
| 13:57.26 | Juventino | i think i'm having a problem with GLX |
| 13:59.11 | nfred | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:59.22 | nfred | in Processor type and features |
| 13:59.32 | Eulex | wols_, "intel-microcode - Processor microcode data file for Intel CPUs" -- are you sure? :) |
| 13:59.36 | Eulex | nfred, ^^ |
| 13:59.59 | Eulex | only in non-free in lenny and sid, though |
| 14:00.04 | nfred | nope |
| 14:00.10 | nfred | etch too |
| 14:00.28 | nfred | (i'm curently compling a etch kernel) |
| 14:00.30 | Eulex | that package is not in etch. |
| 14:00.41 | Eulex | the kernel interface may be, though. |
| 14:00.42 | nfred | it's not a package |
| 14:01.08 | Eulex | the data file is in a package. does not come with the kernel. |
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| 14:01.56 | Eulex | also, there's microcode.ctl which can apply such a file |
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| 14:02.07 | LOOP` | I've a problem with my debian etch, I must use a canonscan lide20, but when I do in bash scanimage -L bash return me this error: loop@asus:~$ scanimage -L. Anyone can Help me? |
| 14:02.29 | Eulex | you can probably find the data file somewhere else and use microcode.ctl to apply it, as it is in etch. |
| 14:02.52 | xsdg | LOOP`: I think you might be missing a line, because there was no error in what you printed |
| 14:03.07 | Eulex | I don't think he's missing a line |
| 14:03.12 | LOOP` | ou sorry the output error is: device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname stk11xx virtual device |
| 14:03.14 | Eulex | and that's not an error |
| 14:03.20 | philsf | hello, how can I create an (/etc/)alternative for a program for which the packaging system does not provide? |
| 14:03.22 | Eulex | ah |
| 14:03.34 | LOOP` | xsdg: sorry device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname stk11xx virtual device this is my error |
| 14:04.01 | xsdg | LOOP`: what is `scanimage -L` supposed to do? |
| 14:04.03 | philsf | I want to create an alternative between pine and alpine |
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| 14:04.40 | xsdg | philsf: man update-alternatives |
| 14:04.42 | LOOP` | xsdg: I do scanimage -L to verify that the scanner work with xsane |
| 14:04.45 | Juventino | i'm using, HP 530 notebook, with 945GM/GMS/GME, and intel driver, any idea how to get proper glx working?? |
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| 14:05.20 | xsdg | LOOP`: but does it just tell you it can see it? does it list devices? |
| 14:05.43 | JyZyXEL | are .wav files what usually? |
| 14:06.12 | LOOP` | xsdg: yes if I do lsusb i find Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04a9:220d Canon, Inc. CanoScan N670U/N676U/LiDE 20 |
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| 14:06.36 | wols_ | Eulex: but it's non free |
| 14:06.47 | Eulex | it is |
| 14:06.53 | xsdg | JyZyXEL: `file` can tell you what a certain wave file is, as can `extract` |
| 14:07.06 | nfred | Eulex, of course the data doesn't come with debian |
| 14:07.13 | xsdg | LOOP`: no, I'm asking about `scanimage -L`. What output are you expecting to see? |
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| 14:07.36 | microtux | anyone knows wher the 'ndiswrapper' module is ? |
| 14:07.45 | microtux | # modprobe ndiswrapper |
| 14:07.46 | microtux | FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. |
| 14:08.09 | nfred | but i don't know the goal of this function |
| 14:08.16 | nfred | that's why i'm asking |
| 14:08.16 | nfred | :) |
| 14:08.27 | Eulex | microtux, you need to compile the kernel module. it does not come with the kernel. |
| 14:08.50 | microtux | Eulex, ok thank you |
| 14:09.21 | microtux | Eulex, i guess that i have to do : apt-get source ndiswrapepr ; then compil it |
| 14:09.30 | Eulex | microtux, it can be done with module-assistant and the ndiswrapper-source package |
| 14:09.32 | Eulex | microtux, no |
| 14:09.33 | o2T7 | Any well-known solution for server redundancy (for use just in case of failure) ? |
| 14:09.34 | LOOP` | xsdg: I'm expecting device 'plustek:libusb:001:004' is a Canon LiDE25 USB flatbed scanner |
| 14:10.21 | xsdg | LOOP`: maybe you need to specify the device? it might be checking the first device it sees (that's just a guess) |
| 14:10.29 | microtux | Eulex, they are already installed |
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| 14:11.00 | LOOP` | xsdg: I try also specify device. now I paste the error that bash return |
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| 14:11.24 | LOOP` | xsdg: loop@asus:~$ scanimage -T -d plustek:libusb:001:004 |
| 14:11.25 | LOOP` | scanimage: open of device plustek:libusb:001:004 failed: Error during device I/O |
| 14:11.35 | xsdg | hmm... |
| 14:11.45 | xsdg | LOOP`: maybe try unplugging and replugging the scanner? |
| 14:11.57 | kdubois | as for as packaging goes is there some intelligent way to merge conffiles? i cant figure out how to use ucf and all i can do is make its prompt if the user wants to replace the conffile... |
| 14:12.02 | xsdg | LOOP`: also, check `dmesg` to see if there are any more informative errors |
| 14:12.14 | Eulex | microtux, then you use module-assistant to compile the ndiswrapper module. a tip is that the auto-install action of module-assistant is very convenient, it fetches, unpacks, builds, packages, and installs the module for you. |
| 14:12.30 | xsdg | kdubois: I'm probably wrong, but I don't think you're allowed to touch a conffile if it's been modified |
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| 14:12.46 | xsdg | kdubois: but you should try #debian-devel on irc.oftc.net |
| 14:12.58 | LOOP` | xsdg: I try to unpluggin and repluggin more time but do not resolve. Now chech with dmesg |
| 14:13.10 | brewmaster | anyone know any good web hosting companies (for dedicated server) near Montreal, Canada, that offers debian? |
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| 14:13.22 | brewmaster | i'm with iweb.ca right now, and they STINK. |
| 14:13.27 | xsdg | LOOP`: oh... |
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| 14:13.37 | xsdg | LOOP`: your scanner is 001:003, not 001:004 |
| 14:13.41 | microtux | Eulex, seems to work, i run module-assistant, i found ndiswrapper in a list of modules, installed it, seems to work but makes me remember Windows :P |
| 14:13.45 | microtux | Eulex, ;) |
| 14:14.24 | Pav5088 | Anyone with experience installing Funambol here? I'm looking to install the DS Server under the Debian version of Tomcat 5.5 (Lenny) |
| 14:14.39 | Pav5088 | Need some help. |
| 14:15.14 | Eulex | microtux, ah, hah, never knew module-assistant had an interactive mode. it can all be done by running module-assistant auto-install ndiswrapper |
| 14:15.45 | LOOP` | xsdg: now is Bus 001 Device 005: ID 04a9:220d Canon, Inc. CanoScan N670U/N676U/LiDE 20 but i try loop@asus:~$ scanimage -T -d plustek:libusb:001:005 |
| 14:15.45 | LOOP` | scanimage: open of device plustek:libusb:001:005 failed: Error during device I/O |
| 14:15.45 | LOOP` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:16.31 | xsdg | LOOP`: have you tried as root? |
| 14:17.32 | JyZyXEL | hmm i wonder if there are some better programs like quelcom |
| 14:17.35 | LOOP` | xsdg: maybe it's start as root, now I try with xsane |
| 14:17.35 | microtux | Eulex, thank you |
| 14:17.45 | JyZyXEL | this thing lacks any real documentation |
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| 14:18.59 | LOOP` | xsdg: xsane return me often a error impossible to start, invalid argument |
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| 14:19.45 | LOOP` | xsdg: is possible that xsane do not have a priviledge to run canonscan? |
| 14:20.00 | Katty | morning |
| 14:21.39 | xsdg | LOOP`: not sure; I haven't used canonscan before |
| 14:21.48 | xsdg | LOOP`: try the scanimage -T thing as root, though |
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| 14:23.18 | LOOP` | xsdg: scanimage -T by root function perfectly. I try to call xsane by root and select device and it's work fine, I must find how change device in xsane how user |
| 14:23.29 | LOOP` | xsdg: thanks for your help |
| 14:23.30 | LOOP` | :D |
| 14:23.42 | xsdg | LOOP`: np |
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| 14:26.42 | codazoda | Hi. I have apache2 installed. I've also got PHP5 installed, both using apt-get. In /etc/apache2/mods-enabled I have php5.conf and php5.load. Everything looks okay, but apache won't process PHP scripts (instead I get the typical download dialog). Ideas? |
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| 14:27.56 | abrotman | codazoda: clear browser cache and restart the browser and try again |
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| 14:28.32 | dbmoodb | hi there |
| 14:28.49 | dbmoodb | hi i have never configured a modem with linux how do i do this... |
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| 14:29.00 | dbmoodb | one is a wireless one - the other internal |
| 14:29.11 | dbmoodb | prod_id(1): "Navini" (0x5742a5db) |
| 14:29.11 | dbmoodb | prod_id(2): "Wireless-Modem" (0x1c616494) |
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| 14:30.10 | codazoda | abrotman: Thanks. I had no inclination that it was on the browser side... |
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| 14:30.41 | xsdg | dbmoodb: it's been a while, but I think you want the "ppp" and "pppconfig" packages (this knowledge might be outdated :o) |
| 14:31.15 | dbmoodb | oh |
| 14:31.29 | dbmoodb | pppconfig ? |
| 14:31.50 | dbmoodb | i don't know which device or even it is being mapped to a device atm my modems are ... |
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| 14:32.37 | xsdg | dbmoodb: if the internal one is detected, it'll likely be one of /dev/ttyS{0,1,2,3} |
| 14:32.49 | dbmoodb | and the pcmcia one ? |
| 14:32.52 | xsdg | dbmoodb: you can try playing with it with ckermit or minicom |
| 14:32.56 | dbmoodb | i think its /dev/ttyS3 |
| 14:32.59 | abrotman | probably the same naming |
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| 14:33.04 | xsdg | dbmoodb: pcmcia, check /var/log/dmesg |
| 14:33.07 | abrotman | there's also wvdial |
| 14:33.10 | dbmoodb | xsdg: i am in there |
| 14:33.14 | dbmoodb | i am familiar with minicom |
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| 14:34.11 | microtux | . |
| 14:34.15 | xsdg | dbmoodb: well, if you want to try by hand (you won't get internet, but you can probably set up a connection), the relevant command is "ATD (phone number)" |
| 14:34.40 | xsdg | and then "+++" followed by something I forget to hang up |
| 14:35.30 | dbmoodb | wait how ? |
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| 14:35.41 | dbmoodb | so if i go minicom /dev/ttyS0 and it is the modem what should i see ? |
| 14:36.13 | xsdg | dbmoodb: if you're talking to the modem, you'll be able to hit <enter> and see "OK" as a response |
| 14:36.24 | dbmoodb | which program ? |
| 14:36.29 | xsdg | in minicom |
| 14:36.33 | dbmoodb | ok i did |
| 14:36.39 | xsdg | dbmoodb: if you hit <enter> and see some garbage, you're probably at the wrong baud rate |
| 14:36.48 | dbmoodb | ok... |
| 14:37.04 | xsdg | dbmoodb: did you get an OK? |
| 14:37.18 | dbmoodb | one sec |
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| 14:37.37 | dbmoodb | trying to change the /dev |
| 14:37.43 | Dewi | xsdg: ATH0 or H0 I think |
| 14:37.53 | Dewi | xsdg: after the escape code to hang up :P |
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| 14:38.03 | dbmoodb | nar not working |
| 14:38.03 | xsdg | Dewi: yeah, thanks |
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| 14:38.41 | dbmoodb | any more ideas ? |
| 14:38.59 | xsdg | dbmoodb: are you sure it's not a winmodem? is this a laptop? |
| 14:39.12 | gimmal | anyone have experience with getting an HD-DVD drive to work? trying to watch a Bladerunner disc - vlc reports the disk as being empty, even when the bay has an hd-dvd in it |
| 14:39.25 | xsdg | gimmal: have you tried mplayer? |
| 14:39.45 | dbmoodb | this is a laptop |
| 14:39.50 | dbmoodb | and it might be a winmodem |
| 14:40.19 | dbmoodb | shoud be under /dev/ttySblah yeah ? |
| 14:40.21 | dbmoodb | just checkin |
| 14:40.25 | gimmal | there's supposed to be some suppt for hd-dvd playing under fscking vista, but it's fscking vista *and* requires a 90+ meg download from Toshiba's web site. sux0r |
| 14:40.26 | xsdg | dbmoodb: if it's a winmodem, you'll need special drivers and stuff, which is a big pain in the butt |
| 14:40.31 | xsdg | dbmoodb: for normal modems, yes |
| 14:40.51 | Dewi | dbmoodb: the vast majority of modems are winmodems in my experience |
| 14:41.00 | dbmoodb | Dewi: as in mine |
| 14:41.00 | Dewi | dbmoodb: these days |
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| 14:41.09 | dbmoodb | hence i never have been bothered to do it |
| 14:41.10 | xsdg | dbmoodb: can you see any mention of the wireless modem in /var/log/dmesg? |
| 14:41.15 | dbmoodb | nope |
| 14:41.19 | dbmoodb | none xsdg |
| 14:41.44 | xsdg | dbmoodb: does `pccardctl ident` mention anything? |
| 14:41.56 | Dewi | xsdg: would the kernel even probe a real modem? |
| 14:41.57 | dbmoodb | yes |
| 14:41.59 | dbmoodb | yes it does |
| 14:42.02 | dbmoodb | socket 1 |
| 14:42.07 | dbmoodb | Socket 0: |
| 14:42.08 | dbmoodb | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.08 | dbmoodb | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.08 | dbmoodb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:42.19 | xsdg | Dewi: I don't think so |
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| 14:42.30 | dbmoodb | sorry |
| 14:42.39 | xsdg | Dewi: that is, not a real one that's internal |
| 14:42.40 | jelly | wtf does "wireless modem" mean, anyway |
| 14:42.41 | dbmoodb | yes my wireless modem is under socket 0 |
| 14:42.51 | xsdg | jelly: cell-phone thingie, likely |
| 14:42.53 | dbmoodb | jelly it is a wimax modem |
| 14:43.03 | Appiah | I want to fsck a disk so i unmounted it , When I try to do fsck i get : fsck.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/hdc1 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program? |
| 14:43.19 | dbmoodb | Appiah: you can force fsck on reboot |
| 14:43.30 | xsdg | Appiah: is it part of a software raid array? |
| 14:43.33 | dbmoodb | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.35 | Appiah | well the thing is it mounts and fsck ok after reboot |
| 14:43.37 | xsdg | Appiah: or does it have LVM stuff on it? |
| 14:43.41 | Appiah | but it still gives error |
| 14:43.50 | Appiah | No LVM, No raid , just a plain IDE disk |
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| 14:43.56 | gimmal | xsdg: haven't yet, will do though |
| 14:43.58 | Appiah | I'd rather not reboot |
| 14:44.08 | xsdg | Appiah: anything more useful in dmesg? |
| 14:44.26 | iateadonut | that's the same question i had earlier. |
| 14:44.28 | Appiah | a bunch of ext3_readdir: directory |
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| 14:44.34 | iateadonut | how do you show processes by device? |
| 14:44.34 | Appiah | thats why I want to fsck |
| 14:44.39 | gimmal | xsdg: mplayer gives me this: "Playing /dev/dvd. .... Seek failed" and exits on EOF |
| 14:44.40 | xsdg | Appiah: aah |
| 14:44.49 | iateadonut | so you can kill the ones that are making a device busy. |
| 14:45.11 | xsdg | Appiah: does fuser/lsof tell you anything about what's using the device? |
| 14:45.22 | Appiah | oh right lsof |
| 14:45.24 | Appiah | *doh* |
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| 14:45.38 | xsdg | gimmal: dunno; tried google? |
| 14:45.42 | gimmal | wonders when exactly the web became crowded with a critical mass of inane crap -- for one thing, it really clouds the search results |
| 14:45.44 | dbmoodb | xsdg: now what ? |
| 14:46.02 | dbmoodb | gimmal: nar google owns --- kills the 'crap' |
| 14:46.03 | gimmal | "buy some useless shytte from uselessshyte.com today!!:" |
| 14:46.08 | xsdg | dbmoodb: google? you might need drivers for that one also; not sure |
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| 14:46.28 | Appiah | lsof with grep on hdc gives me nothing |
| 14:46.30 | dbmoodb | k |
| 14:46.31 | gimmal | xsdg : trying google atm - not finding any useful results |
| 14:46.32 | dbmoodb | i have tho |
| 14:46.36 | dbmoodb | no luck |
| 14:46.46 | cahoot | gimmal: FWIW I had to set the region (using regionset) to get my dvd working on my two laptops |
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| 14:50.05 | gimmal | cahoot: hmm, was your dvd thing supporting hd-dvd? (i haven't had to set the region, on any other drives, bgefore) |
| 14:50.38 | gimmal | dbmoodb: well, this is using google; not able to come up with a specific-enough anti-crap search phrase |
| 14:50.42 | xsdg | dbmoodb: tried linuxwimax.org? |
| 14:50.54 | cahoot | gimmal: I've no such exclusive things to try |
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| 14:52.13 | gimmal | cahoot: heh, "exclusive"... exclusive of the bladerunner disc I bought from amazon, not understanding wtf hd-dvd is, at the time, exclusive because it can't even play the damn thing; just wasn't sure if it might have been a specific "quirk" of hd-dvd drives or something ;^) |
| 14:52.17 | xsdg | gimmal: tried looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD ? |
| 14:52.35 | gimmal | not meaning: that particular quirk that they don't work |
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| 14:52.52 | gimmal | amazing technology, designed to be inoperable |
| 14:53.07 | gimmal | xsdg: hey thanks |
| 14:53.50 | xsdg | gimmal: for the record, I searched for "hd-dvd play linux" |
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| 14:54.33 | gimmal | technology that is so exclusive it excludes itself from the set of all operable things. rock on ye designers |
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| 14:55.38 | gimmal | xsdg: my search wasn't much different, but I was getting a bunch of gdamned "buy this now!" pages |
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| 14:56.21 | patrick-- | hey all. im looking for a way to provide an sms2web service. maybe via an GSM modem. has anyone had experience with such things? |
| 14:56.33 | gimmal | debian "hd-dvd" player - that was my search. go fig. maybe google is trying to cater the results to get me to buy shit i already have; they should know i already have that already! damned big brother not keeping track of his own notes ... :^P |
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| 14:57.24 | xsdg | :o) |
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| 14:58.04 | crazyfrog | i have installed xserver-xorg-core in a debian box(192.168.1.200),and have run "xhost +192.168.1.100".in another box (192.168.1.100),i have configured kdmrc and Xaccess.but i can not run "X -query 192.168.1.100"properly .http://rafb.net/p/R2ubLl48.html what problem it should be? |
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| 14:59.00 | Doubletwist | crazyfrog: I think xdmc is turned off by default |
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| 14:59.17 | xsdg | crazyfrog: you should do X forwarding over SSH |
| 14:59.20 | Doubletwist | xdmcp rather |
| 14:59.39 | crazyfrog | i use xdmcp |
| 14:59.43 | hoxu | !xhost |
| 14:59.43 | dpkg | xhost is, like, EVIL! There are so many other ways of getting remote X apps to work that xhost should never be needed. For a more sensible approach, use ssh X11 forwarding (ask me about <sshx>). Also see <mit-magic-cookie>, http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html <nolisten> and "apt-cache show xbase-clients | grep xhost". To run applications on your local machine as another user, see <root x>. |
| 15:00.05 | stew | crazyfrog: is the x server actually listening on 192.168.1.200? |
| 15:00.27 | stew | crazyfrog: realize that using xhost exposes you to some serious security issues |
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| 15:02.01 | gimmal | thanks dpkg |
| 15:02.27 | crazyfrog | stew:my x server seems does not listening on 192.168.1.200 .i will check it |
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| 15:03.01 | stew | crazyfrog: check /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
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| 15:04.20 | crazyfrog | "exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp" in xserverrc |
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| 15:04.23 | melch | hey i am having problems with the gnome-power-manager, madwifi and my black list. I placed ath_pci in me acpi-support doc but when i suspend to ram it seems to not unload. I have to mannually unload it every time i try to sleep. |
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| 15:06.06 | stew | crazyfrog: nolisten tcp is why your server is not listening for tcp connections |
| 15:06.29 | crazyfrog | stew:thanks |
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| 15:06.58 | snikker | i've got "no target" error with my Makefile http://pastebin.com/m5315dd13 what's wrong? |
| 15:08.00 | melch | how do i remove a mod before i suspend to ram? and do it everytime i suspend to ram |
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| 15:09.04 | gimmal | hey speaking of wifi: hostapd pkg desc says it supports "any wired ethernet driver for wired ... 802.1x auth" - so what does it mean by "wired"? like it won't work with builtin cards not in the list of suppt'd drivers? |
| 15:09.25 | stew | melch: have a look at /etc/acpi/suspend.d |
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| 15:10.18 | cognitiaclaeves | Trying to set up a bugzilla server on debian etch. In the process, I installed sendmail, which was just too painful to figure out how to get working, so I uninstalled it and installed postfix instead. I'm still getting sendmail related errors when executing dhclient, however. What's going on? |
| 15:10.35 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: What's the error? |
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| 15:11.53 | cognitiaclaeves | chops: Running it now, to get them again, but it all seems to revolve around the fact that a new sendmail.cf file is generated during the process. |
| 15:11.55 | N1ghtCrawler | my ide harddrive changes names at evry boot... what should i do? |
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| 15:12.16 | aegoose | http://nopaste.com/p/aVB7uXV88 why does this happen every time i try to run a program with wine |
| 15:12.42 | chops | N1ghtCrawler: Easiest is to mount your filesystems by UUID instead of device |
| 15:13.28 | chops | aegoose: Are you using a binary 3d graphics driver? |
| 15:13.46 | N1ghtCrawler | chops how do i find out the uid? |
| 15:13.51 | N1ghtCrawler | UUID* |
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| 15:14.16 | aegoose | chops: for X? |
| 15:14.22 | chops | N1ghtCrawler: tune2fs -l |
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| 15:14.26 | chops | aegoose: Yes |
| 15:14.31 | aegoose | yes, i am |
| 15:14.40 | aegoose | the ati one as a matter of fact |
| 15:14.44 | Adan_Blanco | a |
| 15:14.44 | Adan_Blanco | a |
| 15:14.45 | Adan_Blanco | a |
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| 15:15.04 | chops | aegoose: At first glance it looks like it might be a problem with the 3d driver. Did you install it via a Debian package, or using the vendor's installer? |
| 15:15.12 | cognitiaclaeves | chops: addr=192.168.2.100 ... Updating sendmail.cf ... ( all the errors that I had when I was trying to get sendmail working ) ... The following files have been changed: /etc/mail/sendmail.conf /etc/mail/sendmail.cf .. *** you should issue '/etc/init.d/sendmail reload *** |
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| 15:15.14 | aegoose | vendor's installer |
| 15:15.18 | aegoose | @ chops |
| 15:15.32 | N1ghtCrawler | chops i'm stuck in a rescue shell :/ |
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| 15:15.48 | aegoose | N1ghtCrawler: is a livecd of help? |
| 15:15.58 | cognitiaclaeves | chops: What I don't understand is why I'm seeing sendmail messages at all. sendmail-bin is not installed. Do I need to reconfigure it with dpkg, maybe? |
| 15:16.09 | eftoer00 | my mon. refresh rate is listed as up to 85 while the mon. supports up to 100 at 1280 720 |
| 15:16.15 | gothian | Could anyone install gnome-system-tools in unstable?.. is it broken? |
| 15:16.15 | N1ghtCrawler | aegoose, so cd drive iether :/ |
| 15:16.18 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: Try purging sendmail instead of just removing it (assuming you don't care about the config anymore). That doesn't actually look like a problem, except for the noise; I don't think it'll prevent dhclient from working. |
| 15:16.48 | cognitiaclaeves | chops: Purging is in apt-get function? |
| 15:16.48 | chops | aegoose: You should ask them for support, then. Good luck. |
| 15:16.56 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: It's available using apt-get, yes. |
| 15:17.11 | aegoose | chops: or i could use the open source drivers? |
| 15:17.12 | cognitiaclaeves | Ok, thanks, chops. |
| 15:17.16 | chops | aegoose: That too |
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| 15:17.24 | aegoose | i'll try that first because fuck ATI |
| 15:17.35 | chops | aegoose: It's often a bit tricky to uninstall vendor-installed drivers, of course... |
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| 15:17.43 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: np |
| 15:17.55 | aegoose | not really, ati-config comes with a removal flag i think |
| 15:17.58 | chops | aegoose: That would probably be best if you don't need 3d |
| 15:18.19 | cognitiaclaeves | chops: It's not installed, so it can't be removed. Is there a trick to purging it, after-the-fact? |
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| 15:19.13 | cognitiaclaeves | will apt-get clean --purge work? |
| 15:19.32 | aegoose | weird though; i've used these drivers with wine before... on gentoo though |
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| 15:20.07 | cognitiaclaeves | nvm, it accepted that command. |
| 15:20.29 | cognitiaclaeves | .. or at least, appeared to. It didn't change the ultimate results. |
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| 15:20.51 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: aptitude purge sendmail |
| 15:21.55 | aegoose | um |
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| 15:22.09 | cognitiaclaeves | chops: It's still got hooks in there somewhere. Any idea where I can go to hunt them down? |
| 15:22.09 | papat | if I can connect to a wireless LAN via AP and then I scan the network and the output says all ports filtered on the AP, which has not a firewall embedded, what's going on? where is the firewall? Any ideas? |
| 15:22.10 | aegoose | shouldn't xorgconfig give me a dialog |
| 15:22.12 | aegoose | err |
| 15:22.13 | aegoose | not a dialog |
| 15:22.17 | aegoose | but a command-line program |
| 15:22.36 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: Can you pastebin the exact command you're running and its full output, please? |
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| 15:23.12 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: And also the output of 'dpkg -l sendmail' |
| 15:23.20 | cognitiaclaeves | chops: Would you happen to have a quick way to do that with no GUI? |
| 15:23.21 | stew | aegoose: xorgconfig is long gone. use 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' |
| 15:23.48 | jelly | !tell cognitiaclaeves -about pastebin pipe |
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| 15:24.01 | Tapout | what's the 'what provides' thing that will show me .. what package I have ot install for : readline.h |
| 15:24.03 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: Use script to capture the session, then a pastebin pipe |
| 15:24.07 | cognitiaclaeves | that will work, thanks. |
| 15:24.31 | aegoose | chops: okay i'm using the radeon driver that comes with X and i still get the same stuff |
| 15:24.31 | jelly | ah, script. I was about to suggest screen and copy/paste |
| 15:24.31 | gothian | anyone using unstable having problems with gnome-system-tools? |
| 15:24.45 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: Oh, also, sendmail is split into multiple packages: aptitude purge sendmail sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf sendmail-doc sendmail-tls sendmail-wide |
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| 15:25.22 | unstable | How can I see what dependencies a package has? |
| 15:25.27 | cognitiaclaeves | chops: Ok. I'll try that, as well, thanks. |
| 15:25.35 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: np |
| 15:25.41 | chops | unstable: apt-cache policy |
| 15:25.44 | chops | unstable: Er |
| 15:25.47 | chops | unstable: apt-cache show |
| 15:26.09 | chops | unstable: Or use apt-rdepends to show indirect dependencies as well |
| 15:26.19 | eftoer00 | & |
| 15:26.20 | eftoer00 | ? |
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| 15:28.02 | chops | !tell Tapout about search |
| 15:28.58 | chops | aegoose: Have you removed the ATI binary driver (including making sure that any OpenGL stuff it's wanted to install is gone)? |
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| 15:30.51 | aegoose | chops: no |
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| 15:31.15 | chops | aegoose: That's my guess for the culprit more than anything about the X driver. |
| 15:31.34 | chops | aegoose: That GL library that's halfway through the stack trace... if that's a binary ATI thing, then I'm strongly inclined to blame the ATI driver |
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| 15:33.03 | eftoer00 | so how do i make it use the full refresh rate my monitor supports? |
| 15:35.01 | cognitiaclaeves | chops: Purging sendmail-base and sendmail-cf did the trick. Thanks so much! Also, thanks for the tip on the command-line pastebin. That's going to be a life saver. |
| 15:35.15 | mick_home | anyone here run a time server? |
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| 15:35.28 | ivan-merida | there is kde4 on sid repository? |
| 15:35.45 | chops | cognitiaclaeves: np |
| 15:35.45 | ivan-merida | hi |
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| 15:36.02 | chops | !tell mick_home about anyone |
| 15:36.13 | JyZyXEL | whats the best way to combine two files? |
| 15:36.36 | meff | cat? |
| 15:36.55 | aegoose | JyZyXEL: cat foo >> bar or so |
| 15:36.59 | aegoose | or then it was > |
| 15:37.00 | mick_home | *sigh* - i hate that |
| 15:37.00 | JyZyXEL | oh yea |
| 15:37.06 | aegoose | by the way sup |
| 15:37.07 | chops | !tell ivan-merida about kde4 |
| 15:37.08 | meff | or.. cat file1 file2 > dest |
| 15:37.15 | mick_home | my ntp server is 30 minutes off and i don't know why |
| 15:37.48 | chops | mick_home: Tried ntpdate? |
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| 15:38.29 | chops | mick_home: ntpd I know will try to adjust in small increments sometimes to avoid time discontinuities (which cause problems for some programs)... though 30 minutes should be long enough that it should just be setting the time correctly instead of trying to adjust I believe. |
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| 15:39.01 | mick_home | i'm looking into it now (as to what it could be) |
| 15:39.25 | JyZyXEL | where do you find documentation for filetypes? |
| 15:39.35 | stew | if the clock is 30 miutes in the future it wouldn't just set it 30 minutes back (since the same time occuring twice can cuase problems) |
| 15:39.43 | mick_home | JyZyXEL: file $foo |
| 15:39.48 | stew | JyZyXEL: what do you mean by filetypes? |
| 15:39.56 | JyZyXEL | RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, mono 22050 Hz |
| 15:40.07 | mick_home | i think that he wants to know what something like a .zoo or .rar file means |
| 15:40.09 | JyZyXEL | i wanna learn about that files header |
| 15:40.25 | aegoose | filext.com? |
| 15:40.30 | JyZyXEL | i need to combine two PCM files |
| 15:40.38 | JyZyXEL | i can't combine them if there is a header in both of them |
| 15:40.42 | __ne2k | JyZyXEL: combine in what sense? |
| 15:40.44 | aegoose | chops: um. it works now |
| 15:40.48 | JyZyXEL | combine so that they are the same file |
| 15:40.50 | aegoose | chops: with the propiertary driver |
| 15:40.50 | aegoose | odd |
| 15:40.58 | __ne2k | JyZyXEL: concatenate, or make into stereo? |
| 15:41.07 | JyZyXEL | join? |
| 15:41.35 | aegis|| | oh well |
| 15:41.37 | aegis|| | thanks anyway |
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| 15:41.49 | stew | JyZyXEL: use sox file1 file2 combinedfile |
| 15:41.58 | stew | JyZyXEL: if you are trying to concatenate the audio |
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| 15:42.04 | JyZyXEL | i don't know that word |
| 15:42.07 | JyZyXEL | concatenate |
| 15:42.29 | stew | !dict concatenate |
| 15:42.33 | dpkg | Dictionary 'concatenate' (1 of 5): add by linking or joining so as to form a chain or series; "concatenate terms"; "concatenate characters". |
| 15:42.38 | JyZyXEL | yes yes |
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| 15:43.08 | soppman | yo |
| 15:43.11 | soppman | anyone using rsnapshot? |
| 15:43.22 | soppman | i really dont understand the line from the rsnap howto |
| 15:43.26 | soppman | backup root@example.com:/etc/ example.com/ |
| 15:43.27 | soppman | ?"?" |
| 15:43.42 | JyZyXEL | stew it worked! |
| 15:43.43 | soppman | i want to do /mydir/ lame@lame.com:/lamest/ |
| 15:43.48 | soppman | but that gives me syntax error |
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| 15:46.00 | Dewi | soppman: rsnapshot pulls, not pushes |
| 15:46.23 | Dewi | soppman: I understood the example you didn't understand, but I don't understand what you're trying to do |
| 15:46.36 | unstable | thanks chops, I appreciate the help. |
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| 15:47.04 | soppman | i want to upload stuff from a dir to another computer through scp |
| 15:47.12 | N1ghtCrawler | i'm sitting in a rescue shell, and udev renames my harddrives att every reboot, how do i from the rescueshell get the UUID? And how do i tell grub to mont on that UUID? |
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| 15:47.14 | Dewi | soppman: that's not what rsnapshot is for |
| 15:47.19 | soppman | its not? |
| 15:47.36 | Dewi | soppman: rsnapshot is for creating sets of snapshots over time of some files |
| 15:47.41 | Dewi | soppman: like, for backup |
| 15:47.51 | soppman | so first i create snapshots |
| 15:47.56 | soppman | then scp it over manually? |
| 15:48.02 | Dewi | no, it creates snapshots |
| 15:48.03 | Dewi | using rsync |
| 15:48.08 | Dewi | but it pulls, it does not push |
| 15:48.18 | soppman | the snapshot will be one file? |
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| 15:48.29 | chops | unstable: np |
| 15:48.33 | Dewi | soppman: no, it will be all the files |
| 15:48.50 | soppman | so how do i get it to another computer |
| 15:49.24 | soppman | aha |
| 15:49.30 | soppman | i install rsnapshot on the other machine? |
| 15:49.32 | soppman | :D |
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| 15:49.47 | danners | i have lenny / testing will it forever update to testing or will it get stable and i have to switch to the next testing at some time in the future? |
| 15:49.48 | soppman | i see |
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| 15:49.58 | soppman | thanks Dewi |
| 15:50.50 | Dewi | soppman: yeah. the great thing is it transfers efficiently because of rsync, and it uses hard links so that files that did not change since last time get another hard link rather than taking up space again |
| 15:51.05 | Dewi | soppman: so bandwidth and space efficient, without being slow |
| 15:52.04 | halflife08 | danners: if you have testing in your sources file, then you will be tracking testing forever. if you have lenny in the sources file, you would be tracking current testing, then later stable when lenny becomes stable, and the old-stable when a new version is out |
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| 15:54.41 | danners | halflife08: thanks |
| 15:55.40 | halflife08 | danners: current testing will be frozen at some point of time to move it to stable , so essentially there will be a time when no packages from unstable will make it to testing. |
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| 16:03.50 | danners | halflife08: thanks for the clarification |
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| 16:07.51 | dutchfish | how can i find out why gs-common in lenny got removed during upgrade? (no dist-upgrade) |
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| 16:11.05 | hifi | referring to a discussion earlier today, is it possible to download only specified packages from the experimental branch (like whitelisting and using that repo) |
| 16:11.32 | dutchfish | !pinning |
| 16:11.32 | dpkg | If you are running stable, don't pin; use a backport. Ask me about <backports> or <simple sid backport>. If you're using testing, man apt_preferences or see http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning. |
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| 16:12.04 | hifi | nice, excatly what I was looking for, thanks |
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| 16:12.28 | fumanchu | !backports |
| 16:12.28 | dpkg | rumour has it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 16:13.29 | hifi | running unstable, is pinning okay with that and experimental? |
| 16:13.46 | dutchfish | hifi: no |
| 16:14.15 | dutchfish | hifi: dont use experimental unless you are developing |
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| 16:15.58 | hifi | uhm, why? if I'm okay with probably broken or untested packages? |
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| 16:16.42 | dutchfish | hifi: even if you got 90% change of braking things? |
| 16:16.55 | hifi | yup |
| 16:17.09 | dutchfish | hifi: its your party ;) |
| 16:17.28 | hifi | I've used gentoo and arch linux, bleeding edge will break things :) |
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| 16:18.01 | hifi | but pinning seems to be the thing I'm looking for, nice to find new things about debian |
| 16:18.23 | dutchfish | hifi: thats not the issue alone, expirimental code will not enter sid, at least not in that form ever |
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| 16:19.14 | hifi | I just need the new firefox package for now, probably will not use it after iceweasel 3 is out for sid |
| 16:19.17 | dutchfish | hifi: so its basically a timewaster unless you want to develop it yourself |
| 16:20.06 | dutchfish | hifi: forget it, already tried it myself |
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| 16:20.27 | hifi | I got it working with another installation |
| 16:20.36 | hifi | just installed the experimental packages by hand |
| 16:20.42 | hifi | (not fun) |
| 16:20.43 | dutchfish | hifi: then make a backup, atm it doesnt |
| 16:21.16 | hifi | whats the problem, incompatible versions between depencies or what? |
| 16:21.25 | dutchfish | hifi: amd64? |
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| 16:21.30 | hifi | nope, i386 |
| 16:21.43 | dutchfish | hifi: ah .. you might get away with that one |
| 16:21.58 | dutchfish | hifi: and thats a big maybe ... |
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| 16:22.25 | hifi | btw, any suggestion for a simple stnadalone gui app to switch between network profiles and finding wlans? |
| 16:22.58 | dutchfish | hifi: nm-applet? |
| 16:23.13 | dutchfish | hifi: also it has its quircks |
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| 16:23.50 | dutchfish | !info nm-applet sid |
| 16:24.48 | dutchfish | hifi: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ |
| 16:25.05 | N1ghtCrawler | how do i get UUID from a harddrive? I inly got a rescueshell |
| 16:25.15 | hifi | seems simple enough, thanks |
| 16:25.18 | chops | N1ghtCrawler: tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 (or whatever) |
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| 16:26.28 | hifi | dutchfish: if I do apt-get dist-upgrade with pinning it will upgrade to experimental accidentaly? |
| 16:26.30 | unggnu | hi all |
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| 16:26.48 | unggnu | How is it possible to disable Textured video with the -intel driver? |
| 16:26.54 | lexton | I've installed the components kde 4.1 beta but kde 3.5 still loads when logging in |
| 16:26.59 | dutchfish | hifi: if you follow dpkg's hints nope |
| 16:27.16 | lexton | how can I get kde 4.1 beta to load instead? |
| 16:27.29 | N1ghtCrawler | chops i don't have tune2fs in the rescueshell |
| 16:27.29 | unggnu | Or just activating overlay video as default. |
| 16:27.38 | chops | lexton: How have you installed kde 4.1 beta? |
| 16:28.05 | chops | N1ghtCrawler: Try a boot CD |
| 16:28.07 | dutchfish | !tell hifi about hold |
| 16:28.15 | hifi | hehe, didn't work out-of-box and got an amusing error |
| 16:28.32 | lexton | chops: aptitude install -t experimental kde4-minimal |
| 16:28.32 | N1ghtCrawler | chops no cd rom iether. No other way? |
| 16:28.45 | lexton | I would imagine a conf file needs editing |
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| 16:29.42 | chops | N1ghtCrawler: Put the drive in another computer? If you don't have any way to boot the machine except off the HD installation, and the HD installation doesn't boot... well... |
| 16:29.57 | chops | lexton: Probably... unfortunately I don't know which one |
| 16:30.54 | N1ghtCrawler | chops an other computer is a good idé, wish i knew wich of the,, |
| 16:30.56 | N1ghtCrawler | them |
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| 16:33.52 | stiv2k | Help, my server went down and I am at a remote location from it and I dont know its MAC address for WOL. How can I determine the machine's MAC address so that I can attempt to wake it up? |
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| 16:35.32 | hoxu | stiv2k, arp caches of other devices, but I think those are cleared by the time you check them |
| 16:35.53 | stiv2k | hoxu: any other ideas then? |
| 16:35.55 | hoxu | stiv2k, arpwatch also if you are running it on another server in the network |
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| 16:40.34 | stiv2k | hoxu: does SSH log any of that kind of information? I was ssh'ed into the machine last night before it went down. |
| 16:40.47 | lea_w | Is there some way to install Perl 5.8.* on lenny (testing) using apt-get? "apt-get install perl=5.8*" yields an "unmet dependencies" error here. |
| 16:41.23 | stiv2k | hoxu: or netstat or something |
| 16:41.41 | hoxu | stiv2k, I highly doubt it, the upper layers don't really need to know the underlying stuff like arp addresses |
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| 16:58.41 | DanDare | Hello. I dont know if this is the best place to ask about but i try: Im using etch and compiled (from precompiled package) a driver for my wireless adapter. Now i want to test another drive cause the actual isnt working properly, How to uninstall the actual one? Its loaded as kernel module when i insert the adapater (usb stick) Can i just 'rmmod" and try the next one ? |
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| 16:59.13 | DanDare | or: Where i must start looking into to uninstall the module ? |
| 17:00.02 | halflife08 | DanDare: was it a debian package ? did it have a make install script ? |
| 17:00.28 | halflife08 | DanDare: oh just removing a module can be done with rmmod |
| 17:00.32 | DanDare | halflife08, it was not a debian package but general one, it cames with an install script |
| 17:01.00 | halflife08 | DanDare: if you want to uninstall the package then you can try make uninstall to see if it would work |
| 17:01.06 | DanDare | halflife08, but if i just remove using with rmmod system loads againd if i plug the device, so i think its not suitable |
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| 17:01.24 | DanDare | halflife08, ok i will try this. thanks for the tip |
| 17:01.41 | halflife08 | DanDare: you can remove the module and load the other module in and see if it works |
| 17:01.47 | Bert_2 | okey, a really silly question, I just relized that the time is totally screwed on my server, how do I change it (command) ? |
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| 17:02.05 | DanDare | ok halflife08 |
| 17:02.20 | halflife08 | Bert_2: date / ntpdate somentpserver |
| 17:02.55 | Bert_2 | halflife08: do you know a nice ntpserver ? :P |
| 17:03.13 | halflife08 | Bert_2: www.google.com for one near to your vicinity :P |
| 17:03.27 | halflife08 | ntp.org should have a list |
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| 17:06.29 | mike-ekim | how can I change the Timezone to America/New_York via command |
| 17:07.14 | wols_ | tzselect |
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| 17:07.33 | wols_ | !tell mike-ekim about timezone |
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| 17:08.30 | halflife08 | !tell halflife08 about timezone |
| 17:09.41 | wols_ | !tell halflife08 about selftell |
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| 17:10.17 | halflife08 | wols_: i did try that for timezone and i got a I don't know, could you explain it?, halflife08 message |
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| 17:10.23 | Bert_2 | !tell Bert_2 about selttell |
| 17:10.34 | Bert_2 | !tell Bert_2 about selftell |
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| 17:11.32 | halflife08 | how does one get dpkg to list all its current factoids ? |
| 17:11.40 | wols_ | halflife08: I don't believe you |
| 17:12.43 | mike-ekim | uh |
| 17:13.14 | NinjaMan | anyone experiencing mysterious crashing with aMule? |
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| 17:13.44 | chops | NinjaMan: Checked the BTS? |
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| 17:14.21 | flavory | what does "FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory" mean? I get that while installing java in a chroot'd/debootstrap'd environment? |
| 17:14.31 | NinjaMan | chops: yeah but there are hundreds of bugs filed for aMule, with no solutions - ha ha ha |
| 17:14.44 | NinjaMan | just wanted to know if anyone here had found workarounds |
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| 17:15.14 | simonrvn | flavory: i wouldn't worry about it |
| 17:15.25 | simonrvn | flavory: not for that anyway |
| 17:15.39 | flavory | I kinda am because when I do it with java, my EC2'd image dies |
| 17:15.50 | flavory | without java, the EC2 image is quite happy |
| 17:16.02 | flavory | (I make an EC2 image out of the chroot'd environment) |
| 17:16.23 | simonrvn | BTW, "no such file or directory" means exactly that, it's not there. |
| 17:16.36 | flavory | yes, I can read :) |
| 17:16.46 | flavory | But I was wonder what was the underlying symptom |
| 17:16.59 | simonrvn | while installing java.. how are you doing that? |
| 17:17.09 | NinjaMan | does anyone know how to get nicotine+ "now playing" features working with rhthymbox? (I get a global name 'dbus' not found error) |
| 17:17.15 | flavory | chroot /mnt aptitude install sun-java6-jdk |
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| 17:17.24 | flavory | I can run java just fine in the chroot |
| 17:17.41 | flavory | the problem is occurs when I try to bring it up into EC2 |
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| 17:19.31 | ivan-merida | hi... i make make-kpkg --append-to-version -xen --initrd kernel-image kernel_header but when i install the .deb generated then it say create the initrd manually and only install under /boot the file xen0-linux-2.6.21-xen-xen |
| 17:19.44 | ivan-merida | and the size is 40Mb :S |
| 17:19.58 | tigertjader | hi, I'm on testing+unstable, and I can't get the nvidia driver to work because the kernel loads nvidiafb on boot, how do I tell it to not do that? (I'm using grub2) |
| 17:20.41 | fumanchu | put nvidiafb on backlist |
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| 17:21.30 | MrNotElendig | hey #debian, how do I remove a package from being "manually installed", setting it to be a depedency package only |
| 17:22.01 | hifi | what other good network managers are there expect NetworkManager and wcid? |
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| 17:22.30 | stew | MrNotElendig: aptitude markauto packagename or apt-mark markauto packagename |
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| 17:22.36 | hifi | except, I'm good at typing today |
| 17:22.39 | MrNotElendig | thanks stew |
| 17:23.06 | Jessica_lilly | i seem to have a problem installing debian |
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| 17:23.49 | Jessica_lilly | its hard to descibe |
| 17:24.01 | Jessica_lilly | its deffanatly a graphic's problem |
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| 17:25.33 | stew | Jessica_lilly: what can you tell us? |
| 17:25.35 | tigertjader | fumanchu: I shall try that as soon as I can reboot this machine, think you |
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| 17:26.42 | saba | can anyone plz post his sources.list, i dont get along with this ^^ |
| 17:26.57 | stew | saba: /msg dpkg sources.list |
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| 17:29.28 | tigertjader | also, what would be the right way to edit the parameters grub2 will pass to the kernel? |
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| 17:30.38 | NinjaMan | tigertjader: /etc/default/grub |
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| 17:34.56 | chops | NinjaMan: Huh? Shouldn't it be /boot/grub/menu.list? Or is grub2 different? |
| 17:35.22 | abrotman | it's slightly different |
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| 17:36.12 | abrotman | chops: it's still /boot/grub/ |
| 17:36.26 | NinjaMan | chops: yes but you shouldn't edit directly anymore |
| 17:36.49 | NinjaMan | edit /etc/default/grub and update-grub |
| 17:36.57 | chops | NinjaMan: Interesting |
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| 17:51.42 | alkanoide | Hello. Can please someone form Europe help me? I need "AUTHORITY SECTION" contents form a "dig ondore.com" output, how does it looks from there. |
| 17:52.24 | NinjaMan | alkanoide: I don't get an authority section |
| 17:53.09 | alkanoide | Any NS name suposed to resolve that domain? |
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| 17:54.13 | NinjaMan | alkanoide : sorry I run my own caching name server |
| 17:54.27 | NinjaMan | alkanoide: so it just indicates my server has resolved it |
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| 17:55.03 | alkanoide | oh. anyway, thank you very much |
| 17:55.36 | alkanoide | NinjaMan: this is enought for now, (: |
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| 17:56.12 | valdyn | alkanoide: try dig +trace ondore.com |
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| 17:57.53 | alkanoide | valdyn: nice, that is even better. thank you |
| 17:58.08 | format_c | for sure |
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| 18:06.48 | drwahl | during a netinstall, if the netinstall does not have the module for a NIC in my machine, what can be done? |
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| 18:07.09 | drwahl | i would prefer to not download a full DVD if possible |
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| 18:08.11 | cognitiaclaeves | Are there any known bugs/inconveniences that would prevent apache2 from running scripts in Etch? http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl |
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| 18:08.45 | quentusrex | I'm trying to run ispconfig on my server, but it seems like something in the apache settings broke. |
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| 18:09.15 | alkanoide | drwahl: Get a temporal NIC that is supported, install the latest kernel form repositroy, then set it up the usual way |
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| 18:09.23 | alkanoide | drwahl: it's the eases thing |
| 18:09.33 | quentusrex | none of the client websites show up, the ispconfig admin page on port 81 doesn't load, but if I go to the ip address I get the message from ispconfig that it's a shared computer |
| 18:09.45 | drwahl | alkanoide: i assume it is possible to recompile the installer with the module required for that NIC though, correct? |
| 18:09.50 | tigertjader | I blacklisted nvidiafb, put video=vesafb |
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| 18:10.10 | tigertjader | and it still loads nvidiafb |
| 18:10.56 | alkanoide | drwahl: it IS possible, but normally does not worth it |
| 18:11.13 | drwahl | alkanoide: just as i suspected. i'll see what i can do. thanks |
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| 18:12.31 | clem | Hi. Is there a command to list all broken packages in a repository? |
| 18:12.41 | abrotman | broken how? |
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| 18:13.01 | clem | abrotman: as in, not installable. |
| 18:13.18 | clem | abrotman: requiring dependencies which can't be satisfied. |
| 18:13.30 | abrotman | not that i'm aware of .. though in etch/stable this shouldn't happen |
| 18:14.10 | dudeman | maybe it was a sarge to etch update gone goofy? |
| 18:14.46 | alkanoide | quentusrex: I have tested ISPConfig (no production) on Debian Etch, and found it less usable than GNUPanel or VHCS. Don't know about specifically your issue, but maybe considering those other options would help |
| 18:14.59 | clem | abrotman: I'm getting ready to push new language-packs in my repository... I just want to check that it doesn't break anything else. |
| 18:15.06 | quentusrex | thanks, I'll look into them. |
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| 18:15.39 | clem | abrotman: for instance another package could depend on the exact version which I'm getting ready to superseed... |
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| 18:16.14 | clem | abrotman: if a user installs that package he'll get an error saying it can't be installed.. because the old version won't be in the repository anymore. |
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| 18:16.23 | abrotman | apt-get check ? |
| 18:16.32 | g00se | Anybody managed to connect to BTOpenzone wireless in UK? |
| 18:16.36 | clem | abrotman: but that checks only 1 package right? |
| 18:16.53 | abrotman | unsure .. never tried it .. /me tries |
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| 18:17.31 | clem | abrotman: apparently it's fine with no argument... |
| 18:17.34 | quentusrex | alkanoide, do either of those support multiple servers? such as apache clusters? or mysql clusters? |
| 18:17.40 | abrotman | doesn't mean it does what you want |
| 18:17.51 | clem | abrotman: it looks like it only checks what's already installed though. |
| 18:18.00 | clem | abrotman: right. |
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| 18:18.46 | alkanoide | quentusrex: have not played with that topic, provably not. feuture list on their websites would be more helpful than me (: |
| 18:19.05 | abrotman | clem: i'd say to ask the debian-user mailing list .. |
| 18:19.17 | abrotman | clem: IIRC there's also a 'apt' mailing list |
| 18:19.21 | danners | does somebody know how i can play .smi oder .wax streams under linux? |
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| 18:19.36 | clem | abrotman: ok I'll try over there. Thanks anyway. |
| 18:19.49 | dury | hi there channel :) |
| 18:19.51 | abrotman | clem: or wait a bit here and then ask again |
| 18:20.04 | clem | abrotman: :) |
| 18:20.34 | wols_ | danners: http://filext.com/file-extension/smi says real or quicktime maybe |
| 18:20.53 | dury | gesss I forgot my root (super-user) pwd how can I know that |
| 18:21.06 | clem | abrotman: well it's Friday night.. I don't plan to think of APT all night :) I'll try to look on google and the other irc channel. If I find out, I'll come back here to give you the answer. |
| 18:21.20 | wols_ | !tell dury about ifrp |
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| 18:22.42 | alkanoide | dury: you eill need phisical access to your box. What kernel loadr are you using? Grub, lilo? |
| 18:23.39 | dury | is it a way |
| 18:23.41 | clem | abrotman: actually, I'll break something and see if apt-get check detects it. |
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| 18:24.00 | abrotman | hehe |
| 18:24.20 | dury | alkanoide: grub |
| 18:25.07 | wols_ | dury: dpkg told you what to do |
| 18:25.20 | alkanoide | dub: get the grub boot menu, and alter the kernel boot parameters before booting, add "init=/bin/bash" |
| 18:25.40 | alkanoide | heh, am i spoonfeeding? |
| 18:25.51 | wols_ | alkanoide: please look into your menu.lst before you talk such inane things |
| 18:26.00 | wols_ | no you are talking crap |
| 18:26.13 | stew | alkanoide: you are simply repeating what was already told him by dpkg |
| 18:26.26 | stew | alkanoide: (/msg dpkg ifrp) |
| 18:26.39 | alkanoide | stew: ty, not familiar with the local bots |
| 18:27.31 | dury | wols I don't understand it... could you drive me, please? |
| 18:27.43 | stew | dury: which part don't you understand? |
| 18:27.53 | stew | dury: do you have console access to this machine? |
| 18:28.01 | dury | yes |
| 18:28.33 | stew | dury: if there is some part of the instructions given to you by dpkg that you don't understand, please ask a specific question |
| 18:28.35 | dury | of course I have to use the terminal |
| 18:29.46 | dury | I don't know what I have to type first in the terminal |
| 18:30.05 | dury | could you drive me plese |
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| 18:30.20 | abrotman | ARGH ye drivin' me nuts |
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| 18:31.36 | dury | edit first this > 'init=/bin/sh' |
| 18:31.46 | trifler | Hurm, anyone know if there a plugin or something alike to make mplayer able to play wm or real webradio streams? |
| 18:31.58 | dury | or what? I'm doing my best |
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| 18:32.19 | stew | dury: when grub first comes up and gives you a list of kernels, hit 'e' to edit a kernel, then 'e' to edit the line that has "root=/dev/whatver" and add "init=/bin/sh" to that line |
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| 18:33.57 | simonrvn | stew! |
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| 18:35.28 | stew | \*/ |
| 18:35.37 | stew | i'm leaving. happy friday! |
| 18:35.38 | dury | stew: so I have to reboot the machine for that... is that right? |
| 18:35.41 | abrotman | stew: OT and requires flash http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/05/30/roth.transatlantic.telescope.cnn |
| 18:35.44 | alkanoide | dury: you are provably not getting good help this way. stew is right, dpkg bot gives a clear enough set of instructions. If you can't interpret then, you should leran a little bit more about how stuff works and ask more specific questions. There is little fun on doing someone else's homework |
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| 18:36.49 | helo | anyone remember the link to aligning the blocks (or was it tracks?) on raid1 partitions? |
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| 18:40.05 | Fabio_Como | hi, i have a debian etch on a openvz server. I have only 256mb of ram and no swap at all. I run only openssh-server, apache2, php5, mysql and when I execute "top" i see that i'm using only about 90mb of the 256mb. But often when i'm in my ssh console (bash) some commands, or when I try to "autocomplete" with <TAB> I get a "cannot fork" though i am only using 100mb out of 256mb. Any idea? thank you. |
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| 18:40.43 | akio | where do i find the debian way for the nvidia kernel module? |
| 18:41.01 | akio | dpkg nvidia debian way |
| 18:41.01 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, akio |
| 18:41.07 | akio | dpkg nvidia |
| 18:41.07 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder. or If using a later release than Etch, ask me about <nvidia_post_etch> |
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| 18:42.44 | abrotman | !tell akio about nvidia one-liner |
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| 18:43.03 | helo | akio: etch or sid? |
| 18:43.07 | akio | lenny |
| 18:43.33 | akio | lenny 64 |
| 18:43.35 | abrotman | good luck! |
| 18:43.43 | helo | i had to jump through some hoops to get it working with lenny yesterday... on ia32 |
| 18:43.47 | akio | i guess i'll upgrade |
| 18:44.04 | akio | i really wanted to stay lenny though |
| 18:44.22 | helo | i backported nvidia-kernel-source, and a few others... |
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| 18:44.34 | akio | how long did it take you? |
| 18:44.42 | helo | maybe 25 minutes |
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| 18:44.54 | akio | did you have a walk through or something? |
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| 18:45.20 | helo | dpkg: tell akio about simple sid backport |
| 18:45.38 | akio | dpkg backports |
| 18:45.39 | dpkg | hmm... backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
| 18:45.58 | alkanoide | leave |
| 18:46.01 | Fabio_Como | anyone has ideas about how don't get my "cannot fork" message on a 256mb memory box? |
| 18:46.44 | Fabio_Como | the fact is that in "top" i just see less than 100mb used of 256mb |
| 18:47.45 | _HerrK | -1 |
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| 18:50.29 | clem | abrotman: apt-get check doesn't detect broken packages... |
| 18:51.14 | mbroeker | Fabio_Como, but only after the message that some application wasn't able to fork, or? |
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| 18:51.47 | abrotman | clem: it says it does darn it |
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| 18:53.13 | clem | abrotman: I just checked by breaking a package in my repository... even after an update, apt-get check reports nothing. |
| 18:53.37 | abrotman | clem: maybe it doesn't check what we think it does .. obviously |
| 18:54.00 | clem | abrotman: yes.. I'm trying to find more info on it.. the man page doesn't give enough details. |
| 18:54.26 | Vasistha | so, let's hear an opinion ... I have an encrypted drive, whose password I've forgotten. Should I bother to cover it with /dev/urandom before I re-encrypt and re-format it? Or is the old encryption probably good enough to act as a pseudo-random base for formatting? |
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| 18:55.23 | format_c | does somebody know the name of a program that shows a detailed spectrum of an audio file |
| 18:55.24 | format_c | ? |
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| 18:55.53 | devurandom | Hi! |
| 18:56.00 | Vasistha | format_c: well, audacity shows a very basic spectrum ... actually I don't know if that's considered a "spectrum" after all. It shows something very basic ... probably not "detailed" |
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| 18:56.58 | format_c | I need to know in with part of a song with frequencies are up to the edge. |
| 18:58.08 | xsdg | format_c: baudline |
| 18:58.21 | xsdg | format_c: it's closed-source, unfortunately, but it's awesome |
| 18:58.41 | Vasistha | format_c: "up to the edge" meaning that the signal is too loud and the waves are being clipped? audacity can show you that |
| 18:58.48 | xsdg | baudline.org iirc |
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| 18:59.06 | xsdg | (but yeah, audacity will work to see where audio's being clipped) |
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| 18:59.17 | format_c | Vasistha, yes that's meant |
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| 18:59.39 | Vasistha | format_c: you don't need a detailed spectrum for that :) go get audacity, it's in debian |
| 18:59.49 | format_c | ok |
| 18:59.59 | Vasistha | lunch time! :D |
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| 19:00.37 | format_c | Vasistha, lunch time? |
| 19:00.44 | format_c | when did you wake up |
| 19:00.44 | ezguy | is there away to setup different shell login enviroment session and switch between when i need it? |
| 19:00.45 | format_c | ? |
| 19:00.56 | format_c | here it's 9 o'clock pm |
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| 19:03.18 | xsdg | format_c: there are folks from all around the world on irc :o) |
| 19:03.52 | format_c | xsdg, oh really? |
| 19:03.56 | xsdg | format_c: yeah |
| 19:04.20 | xsdg | format_c: just look at the country codes of the folks joining and quitting, for example |
| 19:04.21 | format_c | deam it thought germany is the only place in the world ;p |
| 19:04.42 | format_c | hearing beethoven |
| 19:04.44 | xsdg | format_c: finland, germany, brazil, and us in just the last page |
| 19:04.45 | xsdg | 8) |
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| 19:05.32 | simonrvn | turtle island |
| 19:06.06 | xsdg | simonrvn: turtle island? where? |
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| 19:06.24 | simonrvn | 'north america' |
| 19:06.33 | simonrvn | or, in some cultures, the world. |
| 19:06.49 | xsdg | laughs |
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| 19:07.06 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 19:07.27 | simonrvn | (meant "world" as in planet) |
| 19:08.01 | xsdg | simonrvn: not only is it turtles all the way down, it's turtle island all the way down ;o) |
| 19:08.04 | akio | generalizations like those are unfair |
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| 19:08.21 | akio | but I am moving to Germany |
| 19:08.23 | simonrvn | xsdg: no, not that story. |
| 19:08.30 | format_c | akio, where? |
| 19:08.33 | xsdg | it still works :o) |
| 19:08.34 | akio | Freiburg |
| 19:08.49 | format_c | Mhh there are more than one |
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| 19:08.53 | format_c | in the east? |
| 19:09.00 | akio | I stayed their a while ago and I loved it |
| 19:09.20 | akio | its more to the southwest corner |
| 19:09.35 | format_c | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.37 | simonrvn | xsdg: in the stories i'm thinking of, the continent (or the planet) is a turtle, not that it's supported by one. |
| 19:09.40 | akio | in the black forest area |
| 19:09.45 | format_c | ok |
| 19:09.47 | format_c | I see |
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| 19:10.00 | format_c | that's about 200 km away |
| 19:10.18 | xsdg | simonrvn: ok; not sure I've heard those |
| 19:10.21 | ilpalazzo | Ragazzi, ho appena ordinato un server dedicato Debian, che dekstop menager mi consigliate di installare? Ffce o Gnome? |
| 19:10.27 | ilpalazzo | *Xfce |
| 19:10.33 | akio | i love Switzerland too |
| 19:10.37 | ilpalazzo | ops |
| 19:10.38 | ilpalazzo | sorry |
| 19:10.41 | simonrvn | !it |
| 19:10.44 | ilpalazzo | my mistake |
| 19:10.48 | ilpalazzo | yeah i know |
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| 19:10.54 | simonrvn | xsdg: pretty sure you haven't ;). |
| 19:10.57 | simonrvn | ilpalazzo: np |
| 19:11.01 | format_c | akio, iv' been to switzerland too |
| 19:11.03 | format_c | geneva |
| 19:11.08 | akio | same here |
| 19:11.18 | akio | I loved Interlaken |
| 19:11.39 | akio | or lachen* can't remember |
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| 19:11.50 | blameless | i wish vmware would package its uninstaller somewhere so i don't have to go through all of the hoops of downloaded software again i'm trying to purge from the system |
| 19:11.54 | akio | between two lakes made of ice water |
| 19:12.00 | format_c | I could'nt coose. Our subsiduary is located there |
| 19:12.22 | vin` | yo |
| 19:12.27 | akio | got a job opening? |
| 19:12.30 | akio | lol |
| 19:12.32 | format_c | blameless, use xen |
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| 19:12.48 | blameless | that doesn't solve my "uninstall vmware" problem heh |
| 19:12.52 | format_c | no just project work |
| 19:13.11 | format_c | blameless, well thats right |
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| 19:13.37 | akio | if i got over there I wouldn't mind being poor as dirt and working for the linux community for free |
| 19:14.49 | format_c | money is only thing in life for you? |
| 19:15.01 | akio | i live in america |
| 19:15.12 | akio | you are forced to value it more than your life |
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| 19:15.24 | format_c | ok then money is really the only thing in life for you |
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| 19:15.30 | akio | at least in my opinion |
| 19:15.45 | format_c | in europe things run different ways |
| 19:15.54 | tingle | hello, where can i find some good documentation about debian? http://debian.org/doc looks rather messy is there something better? im used to http://freebsd.org/handbook |
| 19:16.07 | akio | thats why i want to move |
| 19:16.12 | format_c | and other values count more than in your country maybe |
| 19:16.31 | akio | i enjoy cooking and eating good food and enjoying fine wines and cheeses |
| 19:16.32 | format_c | akio, You're welcome |
| 19:16.43 | format_c | not only tha |
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| 19:17.20 | akio | maybe thats why i like debian |
| 19:17.31 | halflife08 | tingle: have you read the documentation ? or are you just looking at the page and go like o it is all messy |
| 19:17.41 | akio | its the fine wine of the linux distros |
| 19:17.48 | halflife08 | tingle: was there any part of the docs you didn't understand or found missing ? |
| 19:17.57 | tingle | halflife08: hehe ofcourse i read some i dont give anything about graphics |
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| 19:18.11 | format_c | the way people interact in a business manner is more gentle or mor honestly than in america |
| 19:19.05 | tingle | halflife08: well im looking for somthing about Xorg for example if .xinitrc is the 'right' file according to debian to start a wm. but ive been searching for <10 min but couldt find anything so far.. wich i think i pretty long as im not really a noob |
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| 19:20.35 | simonrvn | !.xsession |
| 19:20.35 | dpkg | from memory, xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
| 19:20.43 | simonrvn | tingle: ^^^ |
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| 19:22.09 | tingle | simonrvn: thank you |
| 19:22.17 | simonrvn | np |
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| 19:31.01 | gnd | which firewall gui would you recommend? |
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| 19:31.49 | helo | is it possible to execute a binary on a machine and then delete it? |
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| 19:32.46 | chops | helo: I believe that it is. Try it and see. |
| 19:32.46 | streuner | some people like firehol |
| 19:32.57 | \amethyst | helo: in Unix, yes, you can delete a running executable (maybe not if it is on a Windows filesystem) |
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| 19:33.30 | helo | is there some clever way i can make it very hard for even root to hook gdb up to a running process? :) |
| 19:34.50 | chops | helo: What are you trying to do? |
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| 19:36.19 | helo | lazy copy protection |
| 19:37.19 | Gumby | hi all, are there any security.debian.org mirrors? I cant get updates from it due to it being so slow |
| 19:37.37 | streuner_ | !security |
| 19:37.37 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org etch/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade", or ask me about <testing security> or <unstable security> Sarge security support ended March 31 2008; ask me about <sarge->etch>. |
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| 19:37.58 | \amethyst | helo: no, there is not, except by reducing root's capabilities |
| 19:38.00 | chops | helo: Maybe you could ptrace the executable as soon as it executes; I believe that only one process can trace another process at a time. On the whole I think you're likely fighting a losing battle trying to implement copy protection on Linux. |
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| 19:38.09 | \amethyst | helo: and even if you do that, they just need to reboot |
| 19:38.27 | gnd | is there a problem with binutils? I'm trying to do a apt0get dist-upgrade and I get no space left on device errors, I have over a gig left on / though |
| 19:38.27 | streuner_ | Gumby: s.d.o is a roundrobin... |
| 19:38.32 | chops | Gumby: security.debian.org is itself a set of mirrors, it's just much fewer mirrors than the standard mirror network (since they need to be watched carefully to make sure they're up-to-date) |
| 19:38.46 | \amethyst | helo: you could maybe implement a kernel module that prohibits ptracing certain processes, then require that module to be present before your code will run |
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| 19:38.58 | Gumby | ok. so no static mirrors I can use then. |
| 19:39.03 | \amethyst | helo: I think a lot of admins would balk at loading such a module, though |
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| 19:39.38 | \amethyst | helo: and even then, someone could make a fake version of that module and use that instead |
| 19:39.53 | streuner_ | Gumby: which packages do you update? |
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| 19:40.09 | \amethyst | helo: does your program involve connecting to a server at all? |
| 19:40.47 | abrotman | servers are evil! |
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| 19:42.04 | ricosecada | what is the most secure way to have wordpress on debian etch? to install it with apt and have apt upgrade it, or to do it manually? I am worried I might forget if I do it manually. |
| 19:42.26 | helo | the fs is encrypted, so a reboot won't help much |
| 19:42.27 | streuner_ | hands abrotman a ⢠|
| 19:43.01 | Gumby | streuner: openssh-server. Its ok though now, connection finally picked up |
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| 19:43.11 | apt_get | Hi |
| 19:43.33 | helo | nope |
| 19:43.44 | apt_get | i do a debbootstrat into a new dir.. and making it bootable into another disk... |
| 19:44.03 | apt_get | I do loadkeys some_key, but it dont work |
| 19:44.08 | apt_get | why the right way to do that for console |
| 19:44.25 | streuner_ | !br |
| 19:44.25 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 19:45.33 | spyhd3r | dpkg suP ? |
| 19:45.33 | dpkg | Ok, here's how stable/testing debian upgrades work now that sarge has stabilised: If your sources.list says "woody", you'll stay with woody. If it says "sarge", you'll upgrade to sarge. If it says "stable", it'll upgrade to sarge, the new stable. If it says "testing", your sarge box will upgrade to etch, the new testing. Any questions? |
| 19:46.27 | streuner_ | !what are you? |
| 19:46.27 | dpkg | I am a infobot. For more info see <infobot> |
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| 19:47.49 | joschan | Can I also upgrade a sarge VPS to etch by changing the sources.list? |
| 19:48.16 | abrotman | !tell joschan about sarge->etch |
| 19:48.21 | abrotman | joschan: make sure you have a backup first |
| 19:48.44 | joschan | It is a swsoft vps at a hosting company |
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| 19:49.53 | gnd | !firewall |
| 19:49.53 | dpkg | from memory, firewall is a boundary (usually a computer or network apliance) between your private network and the public internet. see gibraltar, or a firewall can't protect the computer it's running on, or check out http://www.sf.net/projects/shellter for an iptables-based firewall with built-in ssh brute force protection |
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| 19:51.02 | helo | can i make a bootable cd that will work like "rescue root=/dev/hda1" automatically on boot? |
| 19:51.16 | cruxeternus | Anyone know if it's possible to run jabberd2 from lenny? |
| 19:51.37 | abrotman | ejabberd ? |
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| 19:52.06 | helo | as in older stable releases, only without having to specify rescue... |
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| 19:52.24 | abrotman | cruxeternus: apt-cache show ejabberd ? |
| 19:52.27 | cruxeternus | No, jabberd2. http://jabberd2.xiaoka.com/ All the packages seem to be from 'experimental'. |
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| 19:53.12 | abrotman | cruxeternus: you can try to intsall them on lenny .. but don't hold your breath |
| 19:53.38 | cruxeternus | abrotman: Alright, thanks for your candid assessment. :) |
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| 19:53.49 | dan2 | abrotman: good afternoon |
| 19:53.53 | abrotman | cruxeternus: especially given they haven't been updated since 2006 |
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| 19:54.52 | cruxeternus | well, the packages on the jabberd2 site are from May 2008... but apparently I need some "hook" package from the debian-main. :/ |
| 19:55.07 | abrotman | robin williams is involved? |
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| 19:55.11 | abrotman | hi dan |
| 19:55.13 | abrotman | dan2 |
| 19:55.15 | Nigromante | hello |
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| 19:55.19 | cruxeternus | I think I'll just chalk this one up as "not available" for now. |
| 19:55.22 | cruxeternus | heh |
| 19:55.31 | abrotman | cruxeternus: AIUI .. jabber.org uses ejabberd and quite likes it |
| 19:55.32 | dan2 | abrotman: how are you doing? |
| 19:55.40 | abrotman | dan2: broken clavicle :) |
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| 19:55.48 | dan2 | ouch |
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| 19:56.12 | dan2 | abrotman: how did you do that? |
| 19:56.28 | abrotman | dan2: biking at VF |
| 19:56.32 | cruxeternus | abrotman: Ah alright.. the Erlang scared me away.. but I'll look into that now. |
| 19:56.50 | dan2 | abrotman: well, did you have to go to ER? |
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| 19:57.28 | abrotman | yes |
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| 19:57.44 | dan2 | :( |
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| 19:57.52 | dan2 | abrotman: do you want me to send you a care basket? |
| 19:58.16 | jetscreamer | !comfort abrotman |
| 19:58.16 | dpkg | There, there, abrotman. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 19:58.25 | jetscreamer | !pal abrotman while you're at it |
| 19:58.25 | dpkg | points at abrotman while you're at it and laughs uproariously |
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| 19:59.04 | Nigromante | !smile |
| 19:59.04 | dpkg | :) |
| 19:59.23 | dan2 | !whack jetscreamer |
| 19:59.30 | dan2 | oh, right |
| 19:59.33 | dan2 | ~whack jetscreamer |
| 19:59.34 | apt | ACTION whacks jetscreamer upside the head. |
| 19:59.35 | jelly-home | !botabuse |
| 19:59.35 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 19:59.55 | Nigromante | !--reconfigure --pending |
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| 20:00.16 | jelly-home | dpkg -L Nigromante |
| 20:00.16 | dpkg | ii Nigromante 1.6-1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 20:00.20 | jetscreamer | dpkg --configure -a i think |
| 20:00.20 | dpkg | jetscreamer: I give up, what is it? |
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| 20:00.58 | Nigromante | dpkg -P * |
| 20:00.58 | dpkg | Nigromante: I wish you would RTFM. |
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| 20:01.57 | dan2 | dpkg --help |
| 20:02.09 | dan2 | aye |
| 20:02.16 | dan2 | I keep forgetting I'm banned from dpkg |
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| 20:03.15 | Lagbolt | banned from dpkg eh? |
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| 20:03.22 | Nigromante | where are you from? |
| 20:03.29 | dan2 | philadelphia |
| 20:03.36 | dan2 | near abrotman |
| 20:03.41 | Nigromante | ah ok |
| 20:03.50 | dan2 | I live in houston now |
| 20:03.51 | Saar | anyone know a shell command to print a text file using cupsd? |
| 20:04.04 | dan2 | Saar: lpr mytextfile |
| 20:04.06 | helo | can etch's grub boot from a raid mirror device, regardless of which of device is down? |
| 20:04.09 | Saar | ah ok thanks |
| 20:04.39 | Nigromante | so you walk along the Streets of Philadelphia |
| 20:04.50 | Nigromante | walked |
| 20:05.09 | dan2 | sure |
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| 20:05.32 | Lagbolt | helo, yeah just point it to the other device |
| 20:05.43 | Nigromante | was that Rocky's city too? |
| 20:06.25 | Lagbolt | lol day time people in here are nicer . . . last night people got in trouble for off topic conversation |
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| 20:07.09 | Nigromante | !clear |
| 20:07.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, clear is the color of water |
| 20:07.18 | streuner | Lagbot: most OPs gave up at fridays or saturdays :-P |
| 20:07.45 | dan2 | Nigromante: duh na na na, na na na, dun dun dun dun dun ... |
| 20:07.54 | dan2 | Nigromante: yes |
| 20:08.11 | Nigromante | :-$ |
| 20:08.24 | Lagbolt | streuner, lol nice. i just think it is funny . . . i cant figure it out |
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| 20:10.35 | keith4 | helo: yes |
| 20:10.47 | Nigromante | does anyone use Pidgin for irc? |
| 20:10.49 | keith4 | i think it's called "failover" |
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| 20:11.32 | keith4 | helo: it's called "fallback", sorry |
| 20:11.49 | keith4 | you need something like "default 0" and "fallback 1" |
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| 20:12.11 | chester-fan | TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN HEAR |
| 20:12.15 | chester-fan | AND THEN TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE |
| 20:12.24 | chester-fan | EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT WAY TO VIEW THE WORLD |
| 20:12.27 | Saar | WHAT!!!?? |
| 20:12.27 | chester-fan | I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW |
| 20:12.28 | streuner | dude, what did you smoke today? |
| 20:12.32 | chester-fan | WHEN YOU SEE THE SIMPLE THINGS |
| 20:12.42 | keith4 | is it idiot-day in #debian, or something? |
| 20:12.43 | chester-fan | TO APPRECIATE THIS LIFE ITS NOT TOO LATE TO LEARN |
| 20:12.52 | Saar | STOP SHOUTING!! |
| 20:12.57 | chester-fan | Wanna buy what I was smokin? |
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| 20:13.16 | chester-fan | call +447925143806 |
| 20:13.17 | streuner | no, thanks |
| 20:13.23 | Lagbolt | lol |
| 20:13.25 | Lagbolt | wow |
| 20:13.38 | Lagbolt | someone needs to buy a bullet for that guy |
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| 20:13.50 | Saar | or girl |
| 20:13.54 | chester-fan | bullets available call +447925143806 |
| 20:13.56 | Lagbolt | true |
| 20:14.00 | Lagbolt | lol |
| 20:14.01 | Saar | dont assume stupidity is only limited to the male gender :) |
| 20:14.04 | Lagbolt | chester-fan, you got any stric9 |
| 20:14.12 | Nigromante | surely that is his ex-girlfriend phone |
| 20:14.18 | chester-fan | no its not |
| 20:14.18 | Lagbolt | Saar, that is very true |
| 20:14.22 | chester-fan | its a silly goths number |
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| 20:15.00 | Nigromante | any of you has selinux enabled? |
| 20:15.03 | streuner | chester-fan: is everything ok? |
| 20:15.07 | mx-tvt | lol |
| 20:15.14 | chester-fan | whats with the red messages |
| 20:15.16 | mx-tvt | he is doing the same thing In many channels |
| 20:15.18 | chester-fan | im new to IRC |
| 20:15.23 | mx-tvt | I guess he doesn't have anything to do |
| 20:15.23 | chester-fan | actually 2 |
| 20:15.27 | chester-fan | debian and linux |
| 20:15.48 | mx-tvt | you've just been kicked from #gentoo chester |
| 20:15.48 | chester-fan | me n a friend were windin up #tribalwars on QuakeNet |
| 20:16.01 | mx-tvt | so that makes at least 3 |
| 20:16.02 | mx-tvt | lol |
| 20:16.10 | chester-fan | and got banned from #tribalwars so finding new chats |
| 20:16.17 | Nigromante | to be banned |
| 20:16.19 | chester-fan | gentoo was for a different offence ;) |
| 20:16.38 | streuner | chester-fan: what kind of interests do you have? |
| 20:17.07 | streuner | chester-fan: we support Debian, #debian is a technical support channel... |
| 20:17.08 | chester-fan | streuner i dont know what red messages mean |
| 20:17.21 | chester-fan | debian is the base of ubuntu ? |
| 20:17.34 | peterS | so I noticed that I'm still using the 'base64-encode' binary from the 'mime-codecs' package from sarge, which didn't make it to etch let alone sid |
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| 20:17.40 | peterS | is there an alternative that is still in debian? |
| 20:17.42 | valdyn | chester-fan: how is that relevant? |
| 20:18.11 | chester-fan | valydn how is what relevant |
| 20:18.23 | valdyn | !based on debian |
| 20:18.23 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 20:18.23 | Legality | hi, theoretical question.. Is bind required in this case - we want to use host.domain.com as our fqdn and hostname, we have registered the domain.com from our domainregistrar and set the a-records to our server ip |
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| 20:18.46 | Legality | do we need to have bind running on the server in order to get the domain working with our serve? |
| 20:18.50 | chester-fan | spamming you is over for now |
| 20:18.53 | chester-fan | BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE |
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| 20:18.56 | valdyn | Legality: no |
| 20:18.58 | peterS | Legality: you are using your registrar's DNS server, so you don' tneed your own |
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| 20:19.14 | Legality | yeah, but for some reason I can't ping the domain |
| 20:19.24 | Legality | it says unknown host |
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| 20:19.36 | Nigromante | may be it is not replicated yet |
| 20:19.37 | Legality | fqdn is set to host.domain.com |
| 20:19.41 | Legality | it should be |
| 20:19.41 | peterS | Legality: you set a-records for host.domain.com at your registrar? you need to do that |
| 20:19.45 | Legality | i did |
| 20:19.49 | Bushmills | Legality: how long ago that you registered and set A records? |
| 20:19.53 | Legality | 8 hrs |
| 20:19.57 | Legality | dot com |
| 20:20.03 | keith4 | you generally can't ping "a domain", you ping a host |
| 20:20.10 | Nigromante | true |
| 20:20.13 | peterS | Legality: note that the A record for 'domain.com' is not the same as the one for 'host.domain.com', unless you have a wildcard A record |
| 20:20.18 | keith4 | lots of people define an A record for their "domain", though |
| 20:20.36 | Legality | I have domain.com, *.domain.com and host.domain.com pointing to the server ip |
| 20:20.45 | Legality | keith4: ok the domain doesn't resolve to the server |
| 20:21.09 | Legality | when I edit the hosts file, what do I need to restart? |
| 20:21.13 | valdyn | Legality: use something like "dig +trace domain.com" to see where lookup fails |
| 20:21.20 | keith4 | Legality: why are you editting the hosts file? |
| 20:21.23 | valdyn | Legality: why are you messing with the hosts file? |
| 20:21.31 | Bushmills | Legality: dnstracer is also useful |
| 20:21.32 | Nigromante | have a nice day |
| 20:21.32 | Legality | ok, what should I edit :> |
| 20:21.38 | valdyn | Legality: nothing |
| 20:21.39 | keith4 | wow |
| 20:21.42 | keith4 | it sounds like you have a lot of reading to do |
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| 20:21.46 | Legality | I do |
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| 20:21.58 | keith4 | it sounds like you shouldn't be sysadmin'ing |
| 20:22.08 | Legality | haha that's exactly what I should be doing |
| 20:22.18 | Legality | t-and-e is my favourite |
| 20:22.44 | keith4 | Legality: start with this: http://www.howstuffworks.com/dns.htm |
| 20:23.01 | keith4 | and come back when you know who is hosting your DNS |
| 20:23.31 | peterS | It's 11 o'clock. Do you know who is hosting your DNS? |
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| 20:25.26 | Legality | shit |
| 20:25.28 | Legality | no one |
| 20:25.29 | Legality | one sec |
| 20:25.52 | Legality | yea |
| 20:25.54 | Legality | now i got it |
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| 20:26.33 | Legality | I guess the a-records won't work if I use nameservers that ain't my domainregistrars(where I creted the a-records) and that are not actuall working |
| 20:26.45 | Legality | silence please, no critisism. I just had a blackout |
| 20:27.24 | abrotman | dan2: nope .. happened a couple of weeks ago .. |
| 20:28.17 | Legality | so I need to find out what are resellerclubs nameservers |
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| 20:28.46 | Legality | actually I could use our other server as well though, but for some weird reason i went to pay for dns-control for rc :> |
| 20:28.50 | Legality | man I have been slow today |
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| 20:30.20 | istoc | Hi, how would I associate a SATA drive with it's corresponding sd* in /dev/? There's nothing in dmesg. |
| 20:30.54 | peterS | istoc: /proc/partitions will give you disk sizes, that is a start |
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| 20:31.55 | ninjaslim | i installed a couple of packages yesterday and they pulled in kpackage and synaptic as dependencies, which i don't need or want |
| 20:32.08 | simNIX | Im trying to find kernel source in synaptic but I cant locate it - what is the name of the packet which holds the source of runnig kernel ? |
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| 20:32.18 | cognitiaclaeves | I can't get XML::Parser to install in debian Etch. It looks like it's just not make'ing. Is this available in debian's repo, somewhere? |
| 20:32.19 | Vasistha | istoc: there's nothing you can really do manually. If the kernel doesn't detect it, that's bad. |
| 20:32.20 | ninjaslim | can i just remove them or would they be pulled in again if i update |
| 20:32.40 | Alarm | hello, i got some problem with greek fonts. although i can read greek fonts on websites, kopete and other applications, there are a few times that i cant. like when there are greek fonts in flash movies. or even on mplayer . all i see is some underscores. is that maybe a system setting that i should change / |
| 20:33.44 | cognitiaclaeves | think I got it. |
| 20:33.49 | hucksy | hey everyone, where can i change the limits of max open files? :) |
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| 20:33.54 | Vasistha | Alarm: it's probably worth asking #mplayer for that app -- if they send you back here, hopefully they'll be sending you with a more specific question about how to get fonts install properly |
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| 20:34.14 | Alarm | Vasistha, its not only on mplayer. i got that issue on some things and on some others not |
| 20:34.23 | Legality | hmmh.. I just added the domain to the name servers which had been set up for the domain for the last 8 hrs. Do I now need to wait until the dns-information propagates again? |
| 20:34.24 | Alarm | as mentioned in flash movies as well. |
| 20:34.46 | Legality | oh |
| 20:34.46 | Alarm | i know how to install fonts for the subtitles on mplayer, as i was using it before formating. |
| 20:34.48 | Legality | started working |
| 20:34.50 | Legality | woho! |
| 20:34.51 | Vasistha | Alarm: you're talking about mplayer and flash, those are both pretty finicky apps AFAIK that might not be looking in the "standard" places for fonts. |
| 20:35.40 | Alarm | i changed the directory to some true type fonts. like arial |
| 20:36.58 | Alarm | could it have to do maybe with mmy locales / |
| 20:37.05 | Alarm | ?? |
| 20:37.44 | devurandom | I just created a debian lenny chroot, put it into a tarball, transfered that onto my server, unpacked it, and chrooted into it. When I try to list the contents of any directories, I get "ls: cannot open directory bin: Unknown error 530" (replace bin with an arbitrary directory name). |
| 20:37.51 | devurandom | What could be the issue here? |
| 20:38.31 | devurandom | The same command works on the PC which created the chroot... |
| 20:38.52 | HSorgYves | morning, when i see "^L" as character (not the 2 character sequence) in pico, how can i type it from my keyboard? |
| 20:38.58 | devurandom | (just create a chroot means: deboostrap --arch i386 lenny /mnt/debian) |
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| 20:40.45 | chops | devurandom: What filesystems are involved? Does running strace on ls yield any interesting information? |
| 20:41.05 | devurandom | I cannot run strace, since I cannot access any directory. |
| 20:41.06 | chops | devurandom: I assume you created and unpacked it as root? |
| 20:41.17 | chops | devurandom: But you can obviously access ls... |
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| 20:41.29 | devurandom | chops: I assume that is a bash builtin? |
| 20:41.39 | chops | devurandom: Oh, I see. No, it's failing even to run ls. But it is running bash. |
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| 20:42.07 | devurandom | It is running bash, probably because I started that from outside the chroot? |
| 20:42.09 | chops | devurandom: Right? Can you pastebin a session wherein you try to run ls on a few different directories? |
| 20:42.15 | devurandom | Yes, created and unpacked everything as chroot. |
| 20:42.19 | chops | devurandom: Also, does 'echo *' do anything useful? |
| 20:42.29 | devurandom | ls / works |
| 20:42.36 | devurandom | ls /bin does not |
| 20:42.54 | chops | devurandom: I believe that generally chroot runs the command _inside_ the chroot, not using the binary from outside |
| 20:43.02 | chops | devurandom: What about 'echo /bin/*'? |
| 20:43.21 | devurandom | :/# echo /bin/* |
| 20:43.21 | devurandom | /bin/* |
| 20:43.36 | chops | devurandom: ? |
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| 20:43.53 | devurandom | Dunno. It just says "/bin/*" |
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| 20:44.14 | chops | devurandom: That's very bizarre. |
| 20:44.24 | devurandom | It worked with an etch debootstrap. |
| 20:44.43 | devurandom | And this is inside a virtouzzo virtualised vserver. |
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| 20:44.53 | chops | devurandom: Huh |
| 20:45.21 | chops | devurandom: You can run strace -f chroot /wherever/it/is /bin/ls /bin |
| 20:45.31 | devurandom | http://rafb.net/p/jRzwOZ96.html |
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| 20:46.25 | devurandom | Need to get strace on the outside server, sec. |
| 20:46.37 | dan2 | man, my alsa stuff got jacked with the latest upgrade |
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| 20:47.35 | devurandom | chops: Btw: No idea which filesystem that is... |
| 20:49.00 | chops | devurandom: BTW, I'm heading out very shortly |
| 20:50.01 | devurandom | http://rafb.net/p/SbIEba70.html |
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| 20:51.10 | devurandom | chops: Doesnt tell me much... :( |
| 20:51.12 | genuser | hello people. |
| 20:51.15 | n0ah | hi |
| 20:51.19 | genuser | is there a debian liveCD? |
| 20:51.20 | n0ah | i'm n0ah |
| 20:51.23 | n0ah | yes |
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| 20:51.25 | Alarm | well. reconfiguring and installing the greek locales fixed the problems with the fonts. the problem now is that most of my applications (menus for examples) appear in greek. something that i dont want |
| 20:51.50 | chops | devurandom: Uh... |
| 20:51.52 | n0ah | http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debian.htm lists debian based live distributions |
| 20:52.01 | genuser | n0ah: ok, under download via http couldn't find live word. |
| 20:52.08 | genuser | n0ah: oh ok. let me look at that. :) |
| 20:52.09 | genuser | thanks. |
| 20:52.09 | chops | devurandom: /* Defined for the NFSv3 protocol */ #define EIOCBRETRY 530 /* iocb queued, will trigger a retry */ |
| 20:52.23 | n0ah | genuser: ok :) |
| 20:52.26 | devurandom | Wow, you found that fast... |
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| 20:52.41 | devurandom | Didnt find where the error codes lie so fast. ;) |
| 20:52.41 | n0ah | grep -R /usr/include |
| 20:52.52 | n0ah | hi chops |
| 20:52.55 | devurandom | So apparently they mounted my dir via NFS? |
| 20:52.59 | chops | devurandom: I would say that the fault lies with virtouzzo... I've done exactly what you describe and it worked for me, and that error code _is_ coming from the kernel, and certainly doesn't make any sense. |
| 20:53.03 | devurandom | they=ISP |
| 20:53.09 | chops | devurandom: Possibly I guess |
| 20:53.19 | chops | devurandom: Or virtuozzo is just telling total lies |
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| 20:53.27 | chops | devurandom: Or something totally different is going on |
| 20:53.30 | devurandom | Well, it works with the etch chroot... |
| 20:53.34 | chops | devurandom: But at least we've narrowed it down :-) |
| 20:53.39 | n0ah | OpenBSD n0ah.org 4.3 GENERIC#1598 sparc64 |
| 20:53.48 | chops | devurandom: That error code comes from /usr/include/linux/errno.h BTW |
| 20:53.50 | Alarm | how could i use greek locales, but not leting them change all my applications to greek ? |
| 20:53.57 | devurandom | chops: Thx. |
| 20:54.04 | chops | devurandom: np |
| 20:54.07 | chops | devurandom: Good luck |
| 20:54.13 | devurandom | I'll need that... |
| 20:54.21 | chops | devurandom: I'd ask your hosting people (and possibly virtuozzo support) |
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| 20:54.38 | chops | devurandom: The NFSv3 part of it doesn't really make any sense at all |
| 20:54.44 | devurandom | They'll tell me F* Off... ;) |
| 20:55.05 | devurandom | I'm running a Debian Lenny chroot in an unsupported Gentoo setup... |
| 20:55.14 | chops | devurandom: Hm... also, all those "No such file or directory" errors opening files that should exist aren't quite right either |
| 20:55.38 | chops | devurandom: Oh, I see... you've got the locale set to something that doesn't exist in the chroot. That should be okay. |
| 20:56.45 | chops | devurandom: Anyway, I'm heading out. Good luck. |
| 20:57.01 | devurandom | Ok, thanks for your efforts. |
| 20:57.07 | chops | devurandom: np |
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| 20:58.52 | tingle | how do i add PATH=$PATH:/sbin to .bash_profile? just adding it whit echo "PATH=$PATH:/sbin" >> .bash_profile doest seem right whit all the "fancy" code arround it |
| 20:58.59 | n0ah | gives chops a free openbsd/sparc64 shell with vhosts for his eforts :P |
| 20:59.44 | n0ah | tingle: it should, nopaste your file :) |
| 20:59.46 | chops | n0ah: heh |
| 21:00.01 | n0ah | might want to export it too |
| 21:00.15 | n0ah | echo 'export PATH=$PATH:/sbin" >> ~/.bash_profile |
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| 21:00.25 | n0ah | see you're using quotes " " |
| 21:00.28 | n0ah | that resolves $PATH |
| 21:00.31 | devurandom | Ok, I just tested it again... In the Etch chroot it works... In the Lenny one it does not. |
| 21:00.32 | n0ah | and you're really doing this |
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| 21:00.40 | n0ah | echo =:/sbin >> .bash_profile |
| 21:00.52 | n0ah | oh wait nevermind |
| 21:00.55 | tingle | ? |
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| 21:01.04 | n0ah | tingle: can you nopaste your file |
| 21:01.32 | n0ah | i'll try to source it :) |
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| 21:02.07 | tingle | n0ah: lol ok i thought you where telling me to NOT paste my file but you mean something like pastebin :) |
| 21:02.14 | n0ah | tingle: correct |
| 21:02.41 | n0ah | it's called a nopaste |
| 21:02.47 | n0ah | or a pastebin |
| 21:02.48 | n0ah | :) |
| 21:03.33 | tingle | n0ah: http://pastebin.com/m6edd53ea |
| 21:04.01 | tingle | n0ah: hehe yeah well the same tool two diffrent names i quess ;) |
| 21:04.03 | n0ah | tingle: did you do your echo in the wrong directory? try to echo to ~/.bash_profile |
| 21:04.11 | n0ah | i don't see your line you added |
| 21:04.28 | tingle | n0ah: ok ill add the line.. just a moment |
| 21:04.55 | n0ah | thanky panky :P |
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| 21:05.25 | HSorgYves_ | how to enter a control sequence into the text in nano (and not execute some command)? |
| 21:05.30 | tingle | n0ah: http://pastebin.com/m11e2d3e1 |
| 21:05.38 | myselfhimself | hi |
| 21:05.56 | tingle | do anyone here know a good cli music player? |
| 21:06.27 | devurandom | Gah, this seems extremely weird... |
| 21:06.41 | myselfhimself | how does the search work in synaptic ? is that a remote call to servers who search for the user and then send back results or is that synaptic which searches through locally aggregated metadata ? |
| 21:06.53 | devurandom | Can it make a difference where I create a debootstraped chroot? |
| 21:07.26 | trifler | tingle: mplayer |
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| 21:08.01 | tingle | trifler: i tried mplayer but i would love to have a playlist in my terminal if thats possible i think ive seen it on some screenshot |
| 21:08.12 | n0ah | works fine here tingle |
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| 21:08.39 | n0ah | tingle: when you relogin it doesn't have /sbin in your path? |
| 21:08.49 | n0ah | only login shells read .bash_profile |
| 21:08.52 | n0ah | if you're using something like su |
| 21:08.55 | tingle | n0ah: yes i know it works :P but is it right i mean can you just add a line like that in a litte 'code' issnt that nasty |
| 21:08.56 | n0ah | try doing su - <user> |
| 21:09.00 | n0ah | instead of just su <user> |
| 21:09.03 | Alarm | after changing my locales to greek ones, my applications do support greek fonts (like mplayer, flash websites and stuff like that) , but most of my applications change to greek as well. can't i avoid this ? |
| 21:09.46 | tingle | n0ah: nice website do you have n0ah pretty handy :) |
| 21:10.13 | n0ah | tingle: no there is absolutely nothing wrong with that |
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| 21:10.30 | n0ah | there are some instances you might not want to |
| 21:10.40 | n0ah | ie, if the script needed to use something in /sbin before it got to the end |
| 21:10.43 | n0ah | then you'd want to add it to the top |
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| 21:11.22 | n0ah | tingle: do i have n0ah pretty handy? :P |
| 21:11.34 | tingle | n0ah: erm? :P |
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| 21:11.49 | n0ah | i don't know what that means and i'm good at understanding foreigners |
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| 21:12.06 | tingle | hehe |
| 21:12.14 | n0ah | the only thing i could grock |
| 21:12.17 | n0ah | is if i'm ready |
| 21:12.20 | n0ah | and sure, anytime |
| 21:12.26 | n0ah | i was born ready |
| 21:12.28 | tingle | grock? |
| 21:12.29 | n0ah | :) (: |
| 21:12.31 | tingle | ready for what? |
| 21:12.32 | tingle | wtf |
| 21:12.37 | n0ah | understand |
| 21:12.38 | tingle | ;x |
| 21:12.45 | n0ah | I WAS BORN READY |
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| 21:13.08 | tingle | rrright |
| 21:13.33 | tingle | well thanks anyway :) im going to relogin and i dont have my irssi session in a screen |
| 21:13.38 | n0ah | actually i wasn't born ready |
| 21:13.40 | helo | the debian installer won't let me make a root partition on raid1 array bootable... |
| 21:13.43 | n0ah | i was born cute though |
| 21:13.47 | n0ah | ok, take it easy |
| 21:13.54 | tingle | hehe |
| 21:13.56 | tingle | bb |
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| 21:15.59 | devurandom | It seems as if Debian Etch would refuse to work at all... |
| 21:16.10 | devurandom | Producing weird errors... |
| 21:16.26 | devurandom | Debian Lenny, sorry. |
| 21:16.40 | devurandom | Does it require some specific Kernel or Kernel version? |
| 21:17.19 | helo | is aes loop or dmcrypt better? |
| 21:17.35 | devurandom | Maybe it gets some syscalls wrongly, because it assumes a different Kernel version... |
| 21:17.37 | wols_ | devurandom: try etch installer with newer kernel first |
| 21:17.51 | devurandom | wols_: I am inside a virtouzzo vserver... |
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| 21:17.57 | devurandom | I cannot choose my kernel. |
| 21:18.04 | devurandom | The one I have is: 2.6.9-023stab044.11-smp |
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| 21:18.07 | davidmo | I have a problem I sync /home with rsync to /home pc2 |
| 21:18.21 | wols_ | devurandom: then I wouldn't use udev |
| 21:18.27 | devurandom | udev? |
| 21:18.31 | davidmo | but the termmianl and firefox try to popen but don't open in pc2 |
| 21:18.40 | davidmo | I restart and sometimes work and others no |
| 21:18.43 | devurandom | wols_: How can I make it not use udev? |
| 21:19.05 | wols_ | simply not use it |
| 21:19.15 | devurandom | wols_: I didnt opt into anything. |
| 21:19.40 | wols_ | it does by default since etch. you can't use it. but then: ask virtuozzo. it's their shit closed source |
| 21:19.47 | devurandom | And it doesnt seem it starts an udev daemon when I chroot into the debian jail... |
| 21:19.50 | devurandom | So I assume I am not running udev. |
| 21:20.14 | devurandom | But I dont even run udev anywhere... |
| 21:20.32 | wols_ | debin deos not support kernels lower 2.6.18 in etch (or lenny) |
| 21:20.40 | devurandom | Aha. |
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| 21:20.46 | devurandom | That might be an answer. |
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| 21:21.06 | devurandom | Still not the answer why it works in Etch, but at least why it might not work in Lenny. |
| 21:21.07 | wols_ | no. the answer is something virtuozzo did when fscking with the kernel |
| 21:21.17 | devurandom | fscking? |
| 21:21.22 | devurandom | I dont run fsck either. |
| 21:21.44 | devurandom | At least I think I dont. |
| 21:21.54 | wols_ | *sigh* |
| 21:22.05 | devurandom | Maybe I should... |
| 21:22.39 | devurandom | ;) |
| 21:22.43 | n0ah | :P |
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| 21:23.51 | n0ah | devurandom: so ls is saying a file doesnt exist? |
| 21:23.59 | devurandom | Yes. |
| 21:24.14 | n0ah | only strange issues i've had like that has been on nfs |
| 21:24.21 | devurandom | http://rafb.net/p/SbIEba70.html |
| 21:24.39 | devurandom | n0ah: Maybe / is mounted via nfs. I dont know that. |
| 21:25.07 | devurandom | And the error -530 from open() also seems to suggest that it has soemthing to do with nfs. |
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| 21:25.23 | n0ah | yea, hold on i'm going to see with that error says |
| 21:25.38 | devurandom | [22:52] <chops> devurandom: /* Defined for the NFSv3 protocol */ #define EIOCBRETRY 530 /* iocb queued, will trigger a retry */ |
| 21:25.53 | n0ah | i see that |
| 21:25.57 | n0ah | i didn't feel like scrolling up |
| 21:26.00 | n0ah | did you try to google that error? |
| 21:26.15 | devurandom | Yes. Didnt bring anything useful, I think. |
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| 21:26.58 | n0ah | well i don't know much about linux kernel but iocb seems to be a data structure being queued |
| 21:27.17 | n0ah | virtulization is scary :( |
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| 21:28.53 | devurandom | The Lenny version of ls seems to be doing something very much different from the Etch one. |
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| 21:29.12 | n0ah | ok well i saw something interesting |
| 21:29.13 | n0ah | hold on a second |
| 21:29.13 | devurandom | Or, it is because one is the builtin from bash and the other is from coreutils. |
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| 21:30.16 | n0ah | devurandom: trying to find the page again |
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| 21:30.29 | n0ah | but it said something about the error is caused with O_DIRECT is used to open(), maybe they changed ls to use this |
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| 21:30.57 | n0ah | try to open it with perl |
| 21:30.58 | n0ah | something like |
| 21:31.31 | n0ah | perl -e 'opendir($fh, '/bin'); $line = readdir($fh); print $line' |
| 21:31.33 | n0ah | let me test that |
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| 21:31.50 | n0ah | probably all false |
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| 21:32.29 | n0ah | n0ah@n0ah[~]: perl -e 'opendir($fh, "/bin"); $line = readdir($fh); print $line;' |
| 21:32.29 | n0ah | .n0ah@n0ah[~]: |
| 21:32.32 | devurandom | It seems as if Virtuozzo 4.0 supports Kernel 2.6.18 (while "my" 3.0 supports 2.6.9). This might play part in this issue. |
| 21:32.38 | baldurk | I have an odd kind of problem. I've got a working debian install on a system, but it's kind of old. It's on 2.4.27. Apt is stuck trying to update libc, but it seems that libc won't update until I have a 2.6 kernel. Unfortunately I can't install a 2.6 kernel until I have an up to date libc. Is there anyway to resolve the cycle? |
| 21:32.38 | n0ah | it shows the first directory :) |
| 21:32.55 | devurandom | n0ah: I cannot even run perl from inside the chroot... |
| 21:33.10 | n0ah | devurandom: ah ok |
| 21:33.37 | n0ah | well if you get really desparate you might want to look at the sourcecode for the distro's ls and take out the O_DIRECT if there is one |
| 21:34.13 | devurandom | It seems as if the only thing that runs at all is /bin/bash |
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| 21:34.25 | devurandom | And that only on startup, not afterwards. |
| 21:34.49 | n0ah | you moved this between two machines of the same architecture? |
| 21:34.57 | n0ah | maybe a library is a different architecture |
| 21:35.09 | n0ah | bin/bash might be static who knows |
| 21:35.12 | devurandom | I created the chroot with deboostrap --arch i386 |
| 21:35.22 | n0ah | oh i don't know anything about that sorry |
| 21:35.36 | n0ah | what's that do? |
| 21:35.45 | devurandom | So I assume, if debootstrap is not broken, it will really use i386 packages. |
| 21:36.07 | n0ah | i'll brb in a few minutes |
| 21:36.16 | devurandom | n0ah: It creates a minimal Debian environment for a specific architecture/debian-version in a specified directory. |
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| 21:37.09 | devurandom | I assume I cannot use Lenny packages in an Etch environment? |
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| 21:38.04 | devurandom | Reason I am doing this, is because Lenny has a newer MinGW environment than Etch, and that old one does not seem to work correctly with the software I am trying to compile. |
| 21:39.14 | tingle | whats the cleanest way to make the meta key (alt, not esc) work in xterm? i read http://irssi.org/documentation/startup and followed some advice about debian and meta keys but it diddnt work |
| 21:39.57 | n0ah | tingle: you use xresources |
| 21:40.14 | n0ah | man xterm an get the resource for the meta key |
| 21:40.26 | n0ah | and make a resource file, then use xrdb to set the resource |
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| 21:41.43 | tingle | n0ah: yep thats how i set it the last time i installed it i remember now :) but was it xrdb -merge .Xresources or something like that? |
| 21:42.30 | n0ah | tingle: I DONT KNOW |
| 21:42.33 | devurandom | Can someone recommend a good vserver isp? |
| 21:42.54 | n0ah | devurandom: you can message me if you'd like |
| 21:43.06 | devurandom | "message me" ? |
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| 21:43.19 | devurandom | privmsg you mean? |
| 21:43.28 | tingle | yes thats what he ment |
| 21:43.30 | jstephenson | Gunna switch to Debian from Vista on my main PC methinx. I won't have any trouble mounting my NTFS external hard drive to retreive my data, will I? |
| 21:43.31 | tingle | send him a query |
| 21:44.07 | tingle | jstephenson: you prolly just need to mount |
| 21:44.33 | tingle | n0ah: xrdb -merge something like that? |
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| 21:48.40 | n0ah | TinoW: i just do xrdb <file> |
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| 21:53.02 | Nyle | jstephenson, for read only, absolutely not |
| 21:53.20 | Nyle | jstephenson, however for RW, there is ntfs-3g, but it has been known to eat my data at random. |
| 21:53.20 | jstephenson | Nyle: And to write? |
| 21:53.28 | Nyle | don't write to ntfs |
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| 21:53.39 | Nyle | trust me, regardless of what people say about ntfs-3g and blah blah its stable |
| 21:53.43 | Nyle | its not, its a buncha bullshit hype |
| 21:54.00 | jstephenson | I'd probably format it again anyway if using Linux primarily |
| 21:54.10 | jstephenson | Just need the read to get the data off first ;P |
| 21:54.10 | Nyle | hm |
| 21:54.15 | Lagbolt | i have never had an issue with ntfs-3g, moved hundreds of GB of data back and forth |
| 21:54.18 | Nyle | oh reading is no problem at all |
| 21:54.26 | Nyle | Lagbolt, great, happy for ya ;) |
| 21:54.36 | cruxeternus | Anecdotal. (TM) |
| 21:54.37 | Nyle | I speak from personal experience |
| 21:55.03 | Lagbolt | Nyle, i am just curious what you were doing. . . i always hear about unstable and would like to know more to avoid future issues |
| 21:55.22 | Nyle | Lagbolt, just mount ntfs-3g and play my mp3 |
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| 21:55.30 | Lagbolt | it hosed you on reading? |
| 21:55.31 | Lagbolt | wow |
| 21:55.36 | Nyle | then all of a sudden, random songs started to get deleted from my ntfs drive |
| 21:55.47 | Nyle | i didn't notice for a few weeks |
| 21:55.50 | Lagbolt | Nyle, hmm yeah that is not cool |
| 21:55.55 | Nyle | I lost close to 39gb of data |
| 21:56.01 | jstephenson | O_O; |
| 21:56.05 | Nyle | music alone, thankfully i had backups on another drive |
| 21:56.06 | jstephenson | Subtle :P |
| 21:56.15 | Nyle | around 40gb lost i realized |
| 21:56.16 | Lagbolt | hmm, my only use is to mount and move data and unmount. . . mainly usb hd |
| 21:56.23 | Lagbolt | maybe short term use is saving me :) |
| 21:56.26 | Nyle | where the fuck is Burzum/Aske CD, or my Children of Bodom CD |
| 21:56.51 | Nyle | and guess what, it wasn't there, I load up the disk in windows, and scandisk, and instantly, it finds lost chains and clusters and deletes more of my shit |
| 21:56.59 | Lagbolt | ooo chilrden of bodom? i assume you like them? what kinda music is it? |
| 21:57.25 | Nyle | (I mounted the ntfs disk under ntfs-3g with a clean unmount/shudown from windows, clean journal etc.) defragged and checkdisk before ever even mounting it in linux |
| 21:57.35 | Nyle | Lagbolt, its heavy metal |
| 21:57.46 | Lagbolt | well Nyle i will keep that in mind . . . hope you had your stuff backed |
| 21:57.46 | Nyle | its basically your typical metal |
| 21:57.50 | Nyle | but it weighs a lot |
| 21:57.55 | Nyle | hence, heavy |
| 21:57.59 | jstephenson | Hah |
| 21:58.01 | Nyle | :) |
| 21:58.18 | Nyle | Lagbolt, I'm not saying ntfs3g WILL cuase dataloss, just that it can |
| 21:58.24 | jstephenson | How're Gnome and KDE these days? Been a good year since I've used Linux day to day. |
| 21:58.30 | Nyle | regardless of how stable they claim they've made it, there is a still a risk |
| 21:58.53 | Nyle | now on the other hand, people say shit about reiser fs all the time, I've been using it as /home for 750gb for about a few years now |
| 21:59.05 | Nyle | i have NEVER lost data or had a problem with reiser fs, ever |
| 21:59.09 | Lagbolt | Nyle, typical? hmm no comparison? ever listen to mastodon? |
| 21:59.12 | Lagbolt | or behemoth? |
| 21:59.16 | Nyle | of course |
| 21:59.18 | Lagbolt | is it like that? |
| 21:59.27 | Nyle | its not as morbid or dark as death metal |
| 21:59.32 | Nyle | plus bodom has lots of keyboards |
| 21:59.34 | Nyle | join #music |
| 21:59.38 | Nyle | not here. |
| 22:02.01 | Nyle | ahhh |
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| 22:02.14 | Nyle | moving again this weekend to a bigger apartment :D |
| 22:02.19 | Nyle | tonight, I toke. |
| 22:03.03 | Nyle | Lagbolt, where are you from? |
| 22:03.27 | Lagbolt | Nyle, i am in indiana now for grad school but came here from maryland |
| 22:03.34 | Nyle | ahh |
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| 22:03.42 | Nyle | I'm in nyc, man rent here is crazy |
| 22:03.48 | Nyle | friggin over 2 grand for an apt |
| 22:03.49 | Nyle | :( |
| 22:03.56 | Nyle | its bullshit. |
| 22:03.57 | jstephenson | O_O! |
| 22:04.00 | jcm | Promise SATA 300 TX2plus (sata_promise) doesn't see my Seagate SATA II HD |
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| 22:04.13 | Nyle | jstephenson, 2200/mo |
| 22:04.27 | jstephenson | Dollars thankfully :P |
| 22:04.27 | Lagbolt | 2 grand! arg :( |
| 22:04.28 | Nyle | excluding utils |
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| 22:04.32 | Lagbolt | 720/mnth here lol |
| 22:04.34 | Nyle | jstephenson, usd yes |
| 22:04.37 | socr | i want to make a launcher in xfce that starts a terminal window. what is the command ? |
| 22:04.42 | jstephenson | GBP ftw |
| 22:04.54 | Nyle | Lagbolt, this is nyc, back home in louisiana i get like a badass 3 bed apt for like 500/mo |
| 22:04.58 | Nyle | something |
| 22:05.00 | jstephenson | Nyle: What do you get for your money? |
| 22:05.08 | Nyle | socr, try #xfce |
| 22:05.16 | Lagbolt | lol what you doin in NYC? |
| 22:05.38 | jstephenson | Was gunna say what's the job affording something like that :P? |
| 22:05.40 | Nyle | they would know the exact answer. I think if you right click panel, add icon, and there is a option there for a shortcut launcher to luanch in terminal |
| 22:05.43 | Nyle | check that checkbox |
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| 22:05.53 | PleXuS | hi all |
| 22:05.53 | Nyle | ( I have not used xfce in a while, try #xfce( |
| 22:05.56 | Nyle | PleXuS, hi |
| 22:06.15 | PleXuS | anyone known why i can login with x11vnc.. and then kills my remote connection :| |
| 22:06.21 | Nyle | jstephenson, I'm an IT admin at one of the largest ebay companies in the world ;) plus I have my own PC repair and IT consulting business |
| 22:06.33 | Nyle | I survive. |
| 22:06.51 | Nyle | PleXuS, its supposed to |
| 22:06.51 | Lagbolt | Nyle, sounds good |
| 22:06.53 | Nyle | PleXuS, wait |
| 22:06.58 | Nyle | PleXuS, remote connection? |
| 22:07.18 | Nyle | x11vnc shares your running x11 session it doesn't start a new one |
| 22:07.21 | PleXuS | Nyle, yeah.. i use on my linux box x11vnc server |
| 22:07.34 | Nyle | for that you' have to use vncserver etc. |
| 22:07.41 | Nyle | or vnc4server w/e |
| 22:07.48 | PleXuS | no only x11vnc works |
| 22:07.55 | PleXuS | becoz i use compiz |
| 22:07.56 | Nyle | PleXuS, you mean you connect to it, and login, and a second later you get disconnected? |
| 22:08.02 | PleXuS | yeah |
| 22:08.13 | PleXuS | i can't get into my gnome desktop environment |
| 22:08.13 | Nyle | PleXuS, yeh i dunno, try running it without compiz and see if it still happens |
| 22:08.19 | Nyle | try to eliminate compiz out of the pic |
| 22:08.32 | PleXuS | Nyle, compiz works only with x11vnc |
| 22:08.39 | PleXuS | so it should work |
| 22:09.00 | Nyle | PleXuS, shouldn't use compiz over vnc |
| 22:09.14 | Nyle | thats just ridiculous (i maybe don't udnerstand your prob) |
| 22:09.15 | PleXuS | Nyle, i don't do it eather |
| 22:09.39 | PleXuS | Nyle, compiz is only when you work on the linux pc.. remote it works as without compiz |
| 22:09.59 | Nyle | PleXuS, oh ok, compiz on local pc, but not on the remote you connecting to |
| 22:10.01 | PleXuS | but when i do the login the screen just disappears on my laptop vnc remote connection |
| 22:10.05 | PleXuS | no error or something |
| 22:10.21 | Nyle | well man i am not experienced with x11vnc |
| 22:10.33 | PleXuS | also the x11vnc server is not listening anymore to |
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| 22:13.30 | Nyle | Common Gotcha: To get X11 permissions right, you may also need to set the XAUTHORITY environment variable (or use the -auth option) to point to the correct MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE file (e.g. /home/joe/.Xauthority). If x11vnc does not have the authority to connect to the display it exits immediately. More on how to fix this below. |
| 22:13.38 | Nyle | http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ |
| 22:13.44 | Nyle | PleXuS, ^^ check this perhaps? |
| 22:13.51 | Nyle | may find some clue as to what the problem might be. |
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| 22:14.43 | Nyle | PleXuS, If you suspect an X11 permissions problem do this simple test: while sitting at the physical X display open a terminal window (gnome-terminal, xterm, etc). You should be able to run x11vnc successfully in that terminal without any need for command line options. If that works OK then you know X11 permissions are the only thing preventing it from working when you try to start x11vnc via a remote shell. Then fix this with the tips below. |
| 22:14.44 | PleXuS | Nyle, thanks.. probably thats the problem |
| 22:14.49 | Nyle | etc. |
| 22:14.52 | Nyle | PleXuS, sure |
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| 22:15.07 | irule | I put new threee new network cards on an old pc, I want to make it a small fw for a couple networks but once I installed Linux, whilke it is running I get "ETH0 LINK DOWN .. ETH0 LINK UP" (eth0 is the one3 connected to a switch) , so, I connect the cable to eth1 and get the same massage but for eth1, what do you think is broken here? thanks |
| 22:15.49 | PleXuS | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 22:15.50 | PleXuS | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 22:16.03 | PleXuS | Nyle, thats what i get when i run it as normal user |
| 22:16.52 | Nyle | permission problem |
| 22:16.56 | Nyle | http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/#faq-xperms |
| 22:16.58 | Nyle | look here for a fix |
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| 22:17.46 | Nyle | PleXuS, please read the page I told youa bout as it contains more good information you could probably put to use about x11vnc |
| 22:17.59 | Nyle | the more you know, the better you can use a product |
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| 22:18.32 | Nyle | I've never messed with it, I just ssh, ssh -X on local or freenx on internet |
| 22:18.43 | Nyle | or xdmcp (local too) |
| 22:19.25 | Nyle | irule, I have no idea. |
| 22:19.41 | Nyle | !networking |
| 22:19.41 | dpkg | i guess networking is at http://www.fokus.gmd.de/linux/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/ and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html and "man interfaces" |
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| 22:19.49 | Nyle | !firewall |
| 22:19.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, firewall is a boundary (usually a computer or network apliance) between your private network and the public internet. see gibraltar, or a firewall can't protect the computer it's running on, or check out http://www.sf.net/projects/shellter for an iptables-based firewall with built-in ssh brute force protection |
| 22:19.55 | Nyle | blah |
| 22:20.13 | Nyle | man I gotta lot of stuff to pack tonight |
| 22:21.17 | irule | and the only thing I see on dmesg is the same couple of lines repeated continously, I cant see the rest of the hardware info even in less |
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| 22:21.36 | Nyle | irule, which lines |
| 22:21.53 | Nyle | irule, oh hmm loose cable? |
| 22:21.56 | irule | Nyle "ETH0 LINK DOWN .. ETH0 LINK UP" |
| 22:22.10 | Nyle | irule, you are on debian/stable/etch? |
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| 22:22.51 | irule | I stole the cable from a new ADSL modem box and I did not get the same error from 8 other previously installed pcs |
| 22:22.53 | Nyle | irule, is the nic ok? is the cable loose? connector loose? that seems like its getting the cable plugged in/out repeatly kinda message |
| 22:23.01 | irule | yes etch stable r3 or something |
| 22:23.13 | Nyle | irule, just for the hell of it, try a diff cable and watch dmesg |
| 22:23.42 | irule | sure I ll try... |
| 22:24.01 | Nyle | I'm not a 100% on this, but why not eh. afaict it seems like that message |
| 22:24.35 | slxix | what device do you connect the other end of the cable to? |
| 22:24.47 | Nyle | I think he said switch |
| 22:25.04 | irule | just what if, it where the MOBO. is there a way to test against it? cable is new and worked on another 8, NICs are new |
| 22:25.36 | irule | a switch, I have already dconfigured another 8 servers, it will be 16 total |
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| 22:25.41 | Nyle | try a diff nnic |
| 22:25.43 | Nyle | brb |
| 22:25.44 | Nyle | phone |
| 22:25.48 | Nyle | i gotta take this call |
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| 22:25.56 | Nyle | my lil bro |
| 22:26.02 | irule | I already gathered 6 hard drives that did not let debian install :s |
| 22:26.41 | Nyle | why would 6 drives not let debian install |
| 22:26.43 | Nyle | what kinda hdd> |
| 22:26.44 | Nyle | ? |
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| 22:27.20 | irule | ide, 40 BG, on an old celeron 900 Mhz, I dont know exactly how old, but they do look bet up lol |
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| 22:27.24 | slxix | irule: you know that port on the switch isn't causing the up/down? |
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| 22:27.55 | irule | and then they wonder why FORTIGATE on new hardware could have a better choice than linux on old hardware lol |
| 22:29.00 | irule | may be, I dont see link errors on the other cable :D |
| 22:29.05 | irule | YET! |
| 22:29.46 | irule | P.O.S. hardware :) |
| 22:30.05 | Nyle | hmm |
| 22:30.05 | Nyle | ok |
| 22:30.08 | Nyle | hang on |
| 22:30.29 | Nyle | ok good good, now test that problematic cable in another pc and watch dmesg |
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| 22:31.14 | irule | I got plenty of boxes lol |
| 22:32.30 | deb511 | hello all , i see kernel optimized for some system to be tiny , is it possible to compile kernel specific for via epia system only, ? |
| 22:33.13 | streuner | if you have to ask, just use an official debian kernel |
| 22:34.01 | deb511 | streuner : and the official kernel will optmized while install ? |
| 22:34.20 | irule | I was asked by the main branc office (they think they are our bosses) to install fedora 6 (current is 8) for their kick a** lamp app, that POS OS times out update servers, switches mirror sites and ends up leaving installation packages half full and the upgrade process not completed, I left it on a true loop last week and right now it has not finished its B.S. ..debian gets it done in an hour :s |
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| 22:35.10 | streuner | deb511: no, just choose one for your CPU |
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| 22:37.41 | penguin | What is the command to list the users on the system? |
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| 22:37.51 | streuner | w, who |
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| 22:38.24 | streuner | (for which are actually using the system) |
| 22:38.31 | penguin | I want the ones not logged in. Is there such a command? |
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| 22:39.43 | Bushmills | penguin: cut -f1 -d: /etc/passwd |
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| 22:42.23 | EpochWolf|NuComp | Hello, I'm having an issue on one of my debian desktops. It's giving me "xauth: (agrv):1: bad display name "hostname:0" in "remove" command |
| 22:42.37 | EpochWolf|NuComp | When attempting "startx" |
| 22:42.41 | Bushmills | deb511: via epia used C3 or C7 CPU? |
| 22:42.43 | Bushmills | uses |
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| 22:43.08 | EpochWolf|NuComp | I've played around with TightVNC on it but it's not running right now. |
| 22:43.08 | Bushmills | (that's the mini board coming in a green box iirc) |
| 22:43.09 | deb511 | Bushmills -> i have two devices :) one C3 and other C7 |
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| 22:43.22 | deb511 | C3 with TV-out |
| 22:43.51 | BubbaT | Ok. I have a directory full of deb packages, how can i install them? |
| 22:43.54 | Bushmills | deb511: this one? http://photo.forthfreak.net/places/germany/bavaria/laim/firewall1.jpg |
| 22:45.25 | deb511 | Bushmills -> i can't see details well it seem my glass become old :) |
| 22:46.02 | deb511 | Bushmills -> if you want to see its image i can take photo |
| 22:46.11 | Bushmills | deb511: you can compile the kernel, optimized for either C3 or C7 |
| 22:46.53 | deb511 | Bushmills -> my idea is to make light system , at end will play media files |
| 22:49.30 | EpochWolf|NuComp | oh.. "user not authorized to run the X server, aborting." |
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| 22:53.18 | odla | is their an openchrome driver for debian? |
| 22:53.21 | Asulao | hello. I'm trying to apt-get tcpdump, but I get an error about libpcap not available. how can I install it? |
| 22:54.26 | deb511 | Bushmills -> this is exactly what i have http://kakaku.com/akiba/images/02/1204newpro_mother_epia5.JPG |
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| 23:01.15 | Deezire | You really need X to install vmware server on etch? |
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| 23:06.20 | foo | looks like several packages were installed with dotdeb source. I removed dotdeb and do an apt-get update/upgrade... and the current packages (php*/apache*) do not get updates. any ideas on how to remove dotdeb packages and install standard? I suppose I could do dpkg -l |grep -i dotdeb and manually remove and reinstall. any other ways? |
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| 23:12.52 | NatNiet | Hi, i have a vi question: i have set TMPDIR did a export but the .swp file still created in my cwd and i would like to have the .swp in the /tmp |
| 23:12.58 | NatNiet | any idee ? |
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| 23:14.52 | zamaliphe | i have mass the grub boot how can i reconfigure it ? |
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| 23:15.21 | slxix | NatNiet: http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=20 |
| 23:16.10 | slxix | zamaliphe: "mass" ? |
| 23:16.22 | karsten | zamaliphe: s/mass/messed up/? |
| 23:17.12 | zamaliphe | sorry for my bad spelling |
| 23:17.45 | NatNiet | slxix i have set this in my .exrc and it works .... thx |
| 23:17.57 | karsten | zamaliphe: dpkg-reconfigure grub, or update-grub, or editor /boot/grub/menu.lst; update-grub |
| 23:18.04 | slxix | NatNiet: thank google and vim.org :) |
| 23:18.10 | karsten | zamaliphe: What's the problem? What did you do? What do you want to do? |
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| 23:20.07 | digijohn | Ok, so I want to get rid of "locate"... what package is that? |
| 23:20.35 | karsten | !tell digijohn about search |
| 23:20.37 | digijohn | I guess I could just disable updatedb |
| 23:20.43 | zamaliphe | karsten: update-grub fix it thanks alot |
| 23:21.00 | digijohn | thanks! That most definitely wasn't the first goddamn thing I did |
| 23:21.09 | karsten | digijohn: dpkg -S $( chase $(which locate )) |
| 23:21.11 | digijohn | I suppose I should just disable updatedb |
| 23:21.55 | karsten | digijohn: Oddly enough, the package name is, um..... locate. |
| 23:22.25 | digijohn | Nope |
| 23:22.29 | digijohn | Not on my system, anyway |
| 23:22.36 | digijohn | Looks like it's fileutils... |
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| 23:23.04 | karsten | digijohn: You can search for the package owning a binary w/ 'dpkg -S <filename>'. You can extend that to work for stuff provided through 'alternatives' by using 'chase' (install it, package of the same name) which "chases" symlinks to their final destination. |
| 23:23.28 | karsten | digijohn: So: "dpkg -S $( chase $( which <cmd> ))" should in general answer your question. |
| 23:23.35 | digijohn | thanks |
| 23:23.47 | karsten | digijohn: ... and YMMV (eg: /etc/allternatives) so you're better off searching your own system than asking us. |
| 23:24.26 | slxix | my locate is a couple synlinks to mlocate. |
| 23:24.31 | slxix | s/syn/sym/ |
| 23:25.16 | digijohn | Thanks, I think I've got things figured out. Adios! |
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| 23:25.45 | slxix | I wonder why he wanted to get rid of updatedb. |
| 23:26.03 | Supaplex | crontab sucking his cpu time away? |
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| 23:26.42 | _eskimo | bye |
| 23:26.58 | slxix | i can't imagine it's that bad. :) |
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| 23:28.17 | karsten | slxix: Beats me too, but no accounting for taste. |
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| 23:34.06 | jberg | does hdparm work with SATA disks? |
| 23:34.36 | slxix | man hdparm |
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| 23:35.12 | jberg | hm yep. not on my linux pc now though |
| 23:36.29 | slxix | which debian do you use? |
| 23:36.48 | markybob | jberg, http://www.electric-spoon.com/cgi-bin/man/man2html?hdparm+8 |
| 23:36.54 | slxix | (sarge/etch/sid) ? |
| 23:36.59 | jberg | slxix: lenny |
| 23:37.04 | jberg | thanks markybob |
| 23:38.35 | jberg | does anyone know when a newer kernel will find its way to lenny? |
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| 23:38.52 | jberg | preferably > 2.2.24 |
| 23:38.55 | jberg | 2.6.24 |
| 23:39.19 | jberg | it has some problems with the b43 module |
| 23:40.15 | zkline | You could always compile 2.6.25. I've done that. |
| 23:40.20 | kalila | how do you generate a random number on the command line (bash) |
| 23:40.28 | xjunior | I downloaded Debian stable DVD 1 yesterday, and I'm now installing it on a laptop with Via chipset (and video card). The installer seems to be broken... it's divided, in this way => http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=representationoftheerrouh8.jpg (just a representation) |
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| 23:40.50 | kalila | $RANDOM |
| 23:41.23 | jberg | zkline: yep, just wondering if some date has been set and which kernel |
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| 23:42.18 | zkline | Afraid I wouldn't know, as I'd need a custom one anyhow myself. |
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| 23:44.55 | xjunior | anyone? |
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| 23:47.38 | xjunior | .... |
| 23:47.47 | phogg | xjunior: what graphics card? |
| 23:47.54 | xjunior | phogg: Via |
| 23:48.14 | phogg | xjunior: Oh yes, of course. As if there were only one graphics card model ever produced by via. |
| 23:48.30 | phogg | as if via were known as the producer of graphics cards |
| 23:48.44 | xjunior | phogg: ¬¬ wait a minute |
| 23:49.12 | phogg | xjunior: if your display is messed up probably your video cjip is unsupported, partly supported, or it or some hardware along the way is damaged |
| 23:49.22 | phogg | s/cjip/chip/ |
| 23:49.23 | slxix | phogg: what? does he need to draw you a picture? *hide* |
| 23:49.33 | phogg | slxix: he already did! |
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| 23:50.05 | phogg | xjunior: have you tried fiddling with your monitor's buttons? Perhaps it is that simple. |
| 23:50.33 | xjunior | phogg: it's a notebook |
| 23:50.50 | phogg | xjunior: I see |
| 23:51.07 | slxix | which make and manufacturer for the notebook? |
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| 23:51.54 | xjunior | phogg: I think that it's a Via Chrome S27 |
| 23:52.09 | phogg | xjunior: the quick answer is that it's more than likely your hardware, either a chance defect or a slightly unsupported version or a buggy driver |
| 23:52.14 | xjunior | slxix: you wouldn't know.... anyway, it's Positivo (a brazilian brand) |
| 23:53.02 | xjunior | phogg: only the installer is like this (that uses dialog)... this notebook cames with Mandriva Linux, and was working fine |
| 23:53.16 | phogg | with precise pci ids it may be possible to prove which |
| 23:53.47 | phogg | xjunior: mandriva does its install in X, right? Whereas Debian does it in a terminal. |
| 23:53.59 | phogg | console, whatever |
| 23:54.23 | xjunior | yes.... but mandriva cames installed, so I didn't have to deal with this |
| 23:54.35 | phogg | xjunior: if mandriva outside X was working then I blame a driver bug |
| 23:54.46 | fxcp | hi folks. how to scan the network for dhcp requests to get the ip offered by dhcp server. 'tcpdump dst port 67' doesnt show the ip |
| 23:55.23 | xjunior | phogg: mandriva was working outside X |
| 23:55.51 | xjunior | damn, it's hard to install with the screen like this.... |
| 23:56.10 | phogg | fxcp: If it were me I'd write a small dhcp client to form a proper request. Or did you want to sniff the IPs being handed to other clients? |
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| 23:56.15 | starz_ | hey |
| 23:56.41 | starz_ | whats a good quick proxy |
| 23:56.44 | starz_ | something fairly secure |
| 23:56.46 | fxcp | phogg: exactely. other clients |
| 23:57.31 | markybob | starz_, willing to pay a small fee, or has to be free? |
| 23:57.39 | starz_ | free as in beer |
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| 23:58.08 | zkline | Xjunior, do you perhaps have another machine you could SSH to the notebook with? |
| 23:58.27 | xjunior | zkline: yes... but how? if debian isn't installed yet |
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| 23:59.43 | zkline | There's an option in the menus early on to enable an SSH server. |
